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[Android Head-Units] thebaldfox:
Big thanks to all who answered (e.sjolund, ElfinJNoty and Zanix).

Looks like I am out of luck then, either the NU for HDMI mirroring for the rear of the car, or the NR for 5.1!

Couple of further questions –

a)	Was mentioned above that HDMI doesn’t show the mirroring of video inputs or back up camera ? is that to say it literally just shows a carbon copy of the interface and the apps… I’m ideally looking to run XBMC/KODI as an app and broadcast that around the vehicle (assuming it would read films off a usb hard disk ?)- if it can mirror that ok, then that’s probably good enough. How many video inputs will it take ?

b)	With the 5.1 rca cable – presumably the low level outputs are run out at the same time as the high level outputs ? Wondering if there’s a way I can run 4x normal speakers from the unit, then get an amplifier to separately run the center channel in the car and the subwoofer. Thinking the center channel would only come into play when watching a 5.1 film, whilst the sub can run full time.

c)	Anyone heard any rumours of any other models due out any time soon ? I feel like I really want to opt for one of these, but they’re just falling short for some of my requirements. Any other suggestions of headunits to look at ?

Again thanks a lot for your patience.

‘fox
[Android Head-Units] coyttl:
Correct. All video switching is handled by the head unit, not the android part - so in this case, the from head unit screen would show the backing up view, while the mirrored screens would continue to display the android interface.
[Android Head-Units] ElfinJNoty:
He meant that the android box will mirror to HDMI. But when reversing, re Erse camera will not display to HDMI out because that video input from the rear camera connects directly to head unit, not the android box. Same with Video Input 2, that connects to the head unit portion of the device directly.

Whatever you are displaying on the front screen(headunit) such as home screen, kodi, maps, whatever android application you are running.... Will be directly mirrored. But the above mentioned video input that connect directly to the head unit to not pass through to the android box, which is where the HDMI output is
[Android Head-Units] robertusIT:
so like this or like this or this ?

So is a simple usb cable 2.0 male/male ?

for the other question: in NR model that i bought and that you have, mic works without problem for "ok google", but is good? also for make call? or needed to get a better mic? in this case which mic is the best?

thanks for the support

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thanks for the support, for the power supply i have afraid to burn the head unit, so i don't know how can i set up the radio before to install in my car. ( after installation is more complicated because i need to get my laptop in my car that is in garage, then i flash with xdauto and set up other stuff in car with battery car, and i have afraid of battery drain car )

about mic, you mean that stock mic isn't good for call? ( i know that works in ok google, and is very important for me that ok google works to make call and other stuff, to drive in safe)

can you suggest me about that? i have also a doubt if the mic is usb, because i need to use a usb hub right? ( because i need an usb free to put my pen drive 32gb of music and videos) and works usb hub without external power? only connected mic usb with a very long usb male female cable ?

thanks a lot for you time, but i'm newbie for android radio car and i prefer to be sure, before to proceed :)
[Android Head-Units] phatass_dk:
Stock Radio Controls

Hi lads,

I've spend most of the day going through this interesting tread. :)

I am an owner of a 2015 VW Polo BlueGT.

In this 6C model many of the car functions are controlled via the radio.

For instance:

- Reset of TPMS

- Adaptive speed control settings

- Light settings

- Etc.

Is there anyway for users like me to access these signals via NU3001 or any other Newsmy head units?

Regards,

Peter
[Android Head-Units] Bokomaru:
I assume it must all be coming across CAN bus so it is theoretically possible, but you would have to write custom code to decode and handle all of that yourself.
[Android Head-Units] phatass_dk:
Aha, well I am an Android rookie but not too bad with technics as some.

The bigger issue of the ones I mentioned is the TPMS. The rest I barely ever touch. :)

How can I find the signal in the can bus? I assume I have to press the reset button and the "listen" or do you have any suggestions?
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
My stock mic doesn't handle bluetooth calls well at all (it sucks). using OK Google seems to be acceptable though.

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Has anyone with the NU/NR resolved an issue where the Bluetooth radio doesn't reconnect to your phone without doing it manually from the phone or launching the Carpad Bluetooth app?

I've seen some previous posts complain about similar issues...but no solid info. I'm on MCU v53 and the 1.3.5 stock ROM.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
Take a look to this xposed framework mod https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.fbarrosoapps.xtendednavbar&hl=es

It alow to customize the navbar a lot

Can add music controls, and other things

Dont know if works in NU3001
[Android Head-Units] jpapadami:
I asked Summer if they plan on introducing a universal one. Let's see what she says.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
Will be nice to know if they sell spare MCU (and what price)

So we can change it in a future without need to purchase androidbox again.
[Android Head-Units] jpapadami:
I doubt it. They'd be loosing profit.
[Android Head-Units] easyguy:
Knowing Summer, her initial reply will probably be NO, but as she gets more inquiries, then they might give you a different answer.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
I think is not loosing money.

If they sell spare mcu and space android box we can easy upgrade our units in a future.

If new android box avaiable wirh more ram, processor or android version. we cna get new android box. and leave the old one for tv

Same with MCU if the release new MCU with bigger screen or get a customized mcu for another car

will be nice advantage for us and may be for newsmy too.
[Android Head-Units] easyguy:
I think what JP was hinting at is that they want us to buy a WHOLE new unit, instead of swapping parts out.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
Yes i understand.

I think they dont loose money.

I dobut i will buy full units every year.

But if cost is not so high may be i can buy android box when new release is avaiable

They will make us more addict than we are now :D
[Android Head-Units] renedis:
Lost the bet.. 8 inch version does not have the same mounting holes as the 7 inch version. But, this does not mean it will not fit.
[Android Head-Units] easyguy:
When Android L gets release we might need more than 1GB ..... I know what you mean.

I wouldn't mind the new rk3288 chip and 3GB of ram. :good:
[Android Head-Units] Ekki_221:
Hello together,

Ekki from Germany here. I am also a happy owner of the Newsmy:

It was a pain to install (the Chrysler 300c needs Special Canbus & SWC Adapters), but it works perfectly now.

Regarding the 8" unit measurements, the exact ones should be

193,9mm x 118,1mm x 162,3mm The front frame depth should be 16mm

Here the technical drawing (not allowed yet to post direct links):

w w w.citroensm-wiki.de/Bilder/measurements.png

Regards,

Ekki
[Android Head-Units] easyguy:
Please post pictures of your install and show us how your 8inch version works.

Thanks
[Android Head-Units] Ekki_221:
I tried a USB-Mic, but did not work (libusb).

Soundcard works but as usual you lose Audio..

What about a Bluetooth micro directly linked to the system? (the Newsmy has 2 different Bluetooth modules. One for the phonebook app, one for the main android system)

Anyone tried if Google now works with it?

Regards,

Ekki
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
OK, Some more photos of the unit taken apart this time. I even took the pad apart (not much to see). When I put it all back together I couldn't get it to come back on. I was quite pissed!!

Fiddled a bit more and got everything to fire back up. So, I won't hunt down red and kill him for making me take it apart :)

Image Album: http://imgur.com/a/28YOz

Video is still loading:

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[Android Head-Units] red13dotnet:
I tried it when I first got mine. It connected but didn't work for some reason. Think I was on stock 1.0.8. Haven't tried since.

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Looks like its using all same f/w. Wanna try loading amplified 1.0.9v1 and see if it works? At least we know its fully recoverable if not.
[Android Head-Units] jpapadami:
I got a YES from Summer :), but unfortunately not a WHEN :(
[Android Head-Units] priusfan:
the inside of HU seems exactly the same 3001/5002

here is the NU3001:
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
Interesting as the ribbon connector for the front panel buttons are there on the 5002 just not used. Therefore you could add some physical buttons if you like.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Summer and I had a discussion (e-mail) this morning about my opening of the units :) No doubt they are intently monitoring what we do here. I tried to assure her that

1) I'm a big boy who takes responsibilities for what I do. Had I truly broken it taking it apart, It would be my fault (well, I'd still be mad at [MENTION=6095496]red13dotnet[/MENTION] :)), and not a warranty issue.

2) That what we are doing here is an attempt to improve their product from a software perspective that could benefit their sales.

I think there is often a cultural divide between these chinese manufacturers and open source hackers like us. I think their instinctive protection of their 'design secrets' closes off open development. In reality, we aren't buying their units for their software, we are buying for their hardware, which we could never hope to replicate at a hobbyists level. The more open they are about the software side of things, the more likely enthusiasts like us are to buy their products.

Don't know if my conversation had any effect, but I guess it doesn't matter at this point. I knew going into this that there really isn't any warranty on these things. Between me taking it apart, and the shipping costs involved if I were to truly have a warranty claim, it's usually cheaper to just fix it yourself, or throw it away :)
[Android Head-Units] snahrck:
Now I'm curious. What did she say?
[Android Head-Units] ElfinJNoty:
What type of phone do you have?
[Android Head-Units] hyperkick:
Hello Peter

I am also a happy owner of the blue gt from 2015. As far as i know our model is in fact a polo 6R as the blue gt is the older polo model, hence we could not get the new LED headlights on our cars.. So the app called "carista" can actually be used to modify the car settings from within the android HU over the OBD connection.

I could be wrong about our model so if you find hard proof that the 2015 bluegt after all is a 6C then please drop me a PM! :)

/Jakob
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
2014 Moto X Pure

No issues with any other Bluetooth device.

It works fine when I launch the Carpad app and cycle on/off or do it manually from the phone...but when I leave the car and come back, it doesn't automatically re-connect.
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
It would be nice if we could get regular can bus Bluetooth and usb working with the stock canbus applications
[Android Head-Units] phatass_dk:
Hi Jakob,

The 140hk BlueGTs only are 6Rs as far as I am aware. At least VCDS is naming my car a 6C. :)

I'll look up the Carista app for sure. Can you recommend a working "dongle" for the Polo?

I assume that if this works I should be able to reset the TPMS via the app? :)
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Mine seems kind of random. Half the time it connects no problem. 40% of the time I have to manually connect from my phone and the other 10% I have to toggle the Bluetooth app of then on.
[Android Head-Units] Kasush:
A work around would the Bluetooth Auto-Connect app from the play store. I use this to connect to my custom Bluetooth sound system on my motorcycle.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
I have a male usb a to male usb a connected from my pc to the nr3001 thru the HD USB and nothing happens when I make the connection. I verified all pins in the usb cable pass through with an ohmeter. What am I doing wrong? Is there something unique in an OTG cable?

Figured it out - just need to go into "Update Setting" app and change the OTG Model to "Connected PC". So no custom OTG cable required, just a straight through Male A to Male A USB.
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
This is good to know, thanks!
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Managed to make it most of the way through the root process, but this step is failing (again this is an NR3001):

When prompted follow SuperSU through updating the binary via the normal way.

"Installing, please wait" lasts forever. If I reboot and retry by hitting the SuperSU app, the install tries again and fails. I've tried the whole rooting process three times and it always fails at that step. Can someone help me?

....edit.... from my reading of the interwebs maybe it has something to do with the fact that the Kingoroot installed "superuser" and not "kingroot" or something like that?

Thanks.

Jeff
[Android Head-Units] Matosdk:
External amplifiers

Do anyone know if it is possible to connect amplifiers to this unit ?
[Android Head-Units] hyperkick:
:eek: Carista only supports setting changes on 6R.. So I need to try carista out first when I come home late next month :/

And on top of that, the settings carista do depends on car model etc.

Every ELM327 BT dongle should be able to do the job AFAIK.

If you get to try carista out before end of next month then I would be very happy to know if the settings can be changed or not as it is a deal breaker for me if it cant:)
[Android Head-Units] phatass_dk:
Hi Hyperkick,

I ordered Carista's dongle from Amazon yesterday and expect to have it tomorrow. I do not expect to be able to reset TPMS with the app... yet.

According to their Facebook page they might be able to get it into the next revision of the app. If and when that could happen I do not know.

If you don't mind - write to Carista's support line to get them to focus on implementing this. I have done so as well.

Anyone have other ideas about how to reset the TPMS with Newsmy or other apps?
[Android Head-Units] robertusIT:
guys about stock mic, someone says that isn't good, so someone can suggest me another mic?

i prefer a mic with jack and not usb because in the usb i need to be put my usb pen drive ( i bought an NR3001 )

i found this mic, is good? works? also with ok google?
[Android Head-Units] hyperkick:
Email sent! -Lets cross our fingers for a quick update.. Let me know what and if any, settings you can change! :)
[Android Head-Units] phatass_dk:
According to the Carista app itself - no 6C settings can currently be modified.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Well I never figured out how to swap from superuser to SuperSU using that method but it was rendered moot by the fact that I used RKBatchtool to flash Xdauto. I am much happier with the unit with that OS.

I did a little experimenting with the 5.1 cable while the NR3001 was on the bench, and thought I'd post the result since others may find them interesting:

The subwoofer output is low-pass filtered. I don't know the frequency (although I would estimate ~100 Hz) or the slope. The "SoundBalanceActivity" app has four independent volume controls on FR, FL, RR, RL. The rear channels do not affect the sub output, but the sub volume diminishes with the fronts. Setting both FR and FL to zero output mutes the sub output as well. The center channel appears to be just a mix of the FL and FR as well, at least with just two channel info being decoded. As with the sub output setting both the FR and FL to zero in the "SoundBalanceActivity" mutes the center channel.

I played a 1 kHz, 0 dBU source on the unit with the Settings volume at max and the main volume at 30 (out of 32) and measured the following voltages. FR=FL=RR=RL=2.05 Vrms, Center = 2.50 Vrms, and ~zero on the sub (due to the LPF). Since I think they normally report the pre-out voltage in peak, that would mean that the pre-outs are ~3V.

Cheers,

Jeff
[Android Head-Units] Dream Reality Syndrome:
This should definitely go in the wiki
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
This is very good info, thanks for the research.

Added to the Hardware section of the wiki http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Newsmy_CarPad#NR_Hardware
[Android Head-Units] mikhew1:
2016 Wrangler with Alpine Sound

Thanks for the pics it looks great. I would like to do this in my 2016. Did you get the steering wheel controls and the amp to both work? Does it sound good and do you have fade control?

Nice work!
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
I'll give it a shot. Thanks.

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I found this by playing with the SoundBalanceActivity app, and at first I thought I had something wired wrong! I didn't realize the output is filtered though...that's something that should've been documented somewhere. Good find!

I'm currently trying to decide if it's worth flashing xdAuto on here, or rolling with Car Dashdroid and continuing to do some customization. I'm struggling to find a decent media player app (for music) which integrates nicely with Dashdroid. I should probably try to customize another launcher before tapping out on the stock OS.
[Android Head-Units] RyanEJ25:
if anyone has a newsmy carpad NR 3001 and want to sell it message me. This thread convinced me to replace my aging clarion unit.
[Android Head-Units] DragonFlye:
Try PowerAmp. It not only works well with Car Dashdroid but also 'behaves' quite well within the Android systems. Thre are some video's floating around made by me using Dashroid and PowerAmp.
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
Taking a look now...thanks!
[Android Head-Units] Khael:
Hello,

i'm so sorry but i need your help: i have NU5261 with an old firmware (rooted).

Now it's 1 years that works without problem.

I'd like to update but i have few question:

1) Can i use last v1.3.5 version and v53 MCU?

2) can i incrase the 1gb partition to install more app?

3) RDS works correctly now?

Thanks in advance :)
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
1) Yes

2) Yes, but you need to completely wipe to change the size. Instructions are on the wiki.

3) No
[Android Head-Units] Khael:
Really thanks for your help :)

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I look on your sign that u are using xdAuto so i go to check it.

It's a good rom and i would to try it but i have 2 question:

1) to incrase 1gb partition data i need to follow the wiki anyway?

2) the navbar could be used also in vertical? Because i love that navbar but in a 16:9 screen use too many horizontal pixels.

Thanks in advance again :)
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
1) xdAuto already has a larger data partition (I think it's 3gb). You'll still wipe/delete data as part of the process. No way around that, but the when you flash the .img file with RKBatchtool it'll resize the partition. Future updates within xdAuto can be done in TWRP and will not require data wipes.

2) Navbar is only at bottom at this time. I like the idea of a vertical bar and it's on the 'long term list' of things to do. But I've been way busy lately and not able to work on xdAuto much.
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
Excuse #205,1579 from you now as to why the ROM hasn't been updated in ages. :p;)
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Pick a response from below:

a) No, it's the same excuse, just using it over and over.

b) It gets updated regularly, we just don't let you know about it, and blocked your IP from the server

I couldn't decide which one was sassier :)
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
Well this is gotten to be a huge PITA! It's gotten to the point where it's almost unusable at times:

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Shot this video yesterday. Now you know why I'm thinking the "new" H/U might solve this problem for me.
[Android Head-Units] robertusIT:
at the moment i don't have any newsmy, i wait my NR from UK, but anyway i try to keep me up to date about that and maybe you have a NU model with firewire cable? and the problem is it?
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
Does it still do the same when you put it into reverse?

If the reverse camera doesn't do it then it's the cable or android box. If it does it's the screen itself.
[Android Head-Units] mureren71:
LOVE it......a test so simple it's to cry for ;)

Only thing is, if you have an orignial RGB camera, the screen will flicker and be in black and white if you out it into reverse to test!

(but the flickering is nowhere near as bad as seen in the video, and you can kind of tell it's an issue with the signal)

The problem with the original RGB cameras should be resolved in the stock ROM/MCU, where there is an option in MCU setting for "RGB camera".

This is probably because the Newsmy converts the signal from RGN to CVBS, Composite or something like that. Sadly, "our" version of the MCU is not supporting this feature, and no one knows how to implement it.
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
I don't have a reverse camera.
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
anything else that puts out a video signal (dvd / playstation / etc) that you could use to test it? Either the reverse or aux video inputs would do.

Did you try replacing the firewire cable? Since it carries the HDMI signal from the Android box to the headunit that would be a possible cause.
[Android Head-Units] pawcu:
I know it is not really related to this thread, but whoever has a webcam connected like the C270, where did you mount it and how did you hide the wire going to the android box? Thanks
[Android Head-Units] Surgent:
I just taped it in front of the rear view mirror and hid the wire in along the trim around the front windscreen back down into the glove box. Cant see either and the mic on the camera is in a fantastic place to catch "ok google"'s
[Android Head-Units] pawcu:
Ok Thanks. I hope the wire is long enough then :)
[Android Head-Units] x5nder:
Same here. Cable is pretty long!
[Android Head-Units] robertusIT:
to have a better mic, these models should be great or someone can suggest something?

mic 1

mic 2

mic 3
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
Does anyone else's Radio app have Chinese writing on the display (even in the widget) using the stock ROM? I swear the first time I turned it on it wasn't there (could be wrong) but now it's always there.

I've seen other pics/video of the NR3001, and I don't see it on there. I'm in the US BTW.

My radio reception is horrible too. :(
[Android Head-Units] j3room3:
Boot logo VW

I made a boot logo for VW user : https://mega.nz/#!gwMEmCCa!HGz6tPMaiRRhXVYfd75veTmfjd_AzrkkdJJEvuBpWwg ou http://www.mediafire.com/download/fr371k52ldjf6w9/vwbootlogo.ppm

Preview :
[Android Head-Units] Kevinkuensken:
Hello,

i have a big Problem.I have wiped all in Recovery and then i want to install via recovery .But it dont work.Then i boot the device but it come only Bootlogo.Then i load rk Batchtool and the driver but Batchtool cant find the nu.What can i make now? Windows 10 Device Manager say android adb Interface
[Android Head-Units] rdevi:
Nu3001 for sale

Thinking of selling my NU3001. It's the 1GB version and is about 1yr old. Works fine, located in Barrie, Ontario, Canada.

Anyone interested?