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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] droid_funktionz:
K...its rooted...got a question now on SuperSU...

Its asking me if it wants me to have it try to disable knox?

Yes, no?

Thanks again

EDIT: Note to self..."Search this Thread"...lol...I found the answer :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] akcooper9:
LOL...I said No to SU and KNOX.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] droid_funktionz:
Thanks for your help man!

any good suggestion for my next step as far as a good tutorial about safestrap for At&t? There is a lot of different info floating around. Just want to make sure I dot my tees ;)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] 82801BA:
So you mean everyone that has ND3 OTA and then goes back to NCE will have this problem? Because the BL fails no matter what I try.

I was running NEx firmware and not until I switch to NFx firmware my WiFi and camera starts to have problem though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Yes, the NG3 update will fail for anyone that follows that guide to downgrade from ND3 to NCE because, by following that process, you are not downgrading to the NCE non-hlos.bin. The NCEtoNG3 OTA looks for either the NCE or NG3 non-hlos' SHA1 sum, but what is present is the ND3 non-hlos SHA1 sum. The NCE BL is a whole other issue and will never flash once you upgrade to ND3 or NG3.

Also, I'm curious to know how the phone runs after flashing the NCE modem before you sideload the update. Please let me know, thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar

Those for which the update to NG3 is failing, can you please help me test this G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar to get back to stock before taking the update:

1. Extract the .tar and flash in PDA slot in Odin(AP in Odin v.3.09+)

2. If it flashes successfully but the phone gets stuck booting-up go into stock recovery and do a factory reset.

3. Once the phone boots take the NG3 OTA update or sideload the G900A_NCEtoNG3_OTA.zip by placing the file in your ext-sdcard and sideloading from stock recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] FilthyFord:
Reserved
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] 82801BA:
Good morning. The phone runs the same as of now. Have not updated to NG3 yet.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Awesome, you should be good to go.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
Wouldn't it be possible to sideload the previous ND3 update from the NCE build, to update it to ND3, and then OTA the ND3 build to the new one. I always keep a copy of the old OTAs if someone needs it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Yes, that should work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
The G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar has now been confirmed to work. Added to troubleshooting section in OP.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] 82801BA:
Thanks muniz_ri. I have successfully go to NG2, flash back to ND2 kernel, towelroot, flash to NG2 kernel, and get SS working without need to set SELinux to permissive.

Next big thing would be, how to get back to stock in case if SS fails during install or other catastrophic errors appears.:laugh:

Now I am running the firmware in my signature. Problem is not fixed, still a delay to start WiFi and access point not remembered after reboot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Glad all is good! And the G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar will get you back to stock if needed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] M1kep:
Ok, so yesterday I did the OTA(I think this stands for Over/On the Air) update like a dumb dumb and it Unrooted my phone, even worse is that I had freedom installed and now my host file is modified so I cant use Google Play Store :/

So I just want to clarify I follow the guide in the OP and I should be fine? Also where can I get this "Odin" program? I attempted searching the forums found something but the link was removed :/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] diehardbattery:
might seem like a dumb question but will any data be lost in the process?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Correct, just follow the OP. Here is a link to the Odin v3.09 file: http://rootjunkysdl.com/getdownload.php?file=Galaxy S5/NE9 Root/Odin 3.zip
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
Not unless you have to flash back to NCE in order to take the NG3 upate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] M1kep:
Awesome! Thanks man :) Ill be sure to reply after doing this :)

Oh do I also need to download the correct USB Drivers? If so where would I get those as well :) I have them on MY computer but my computer is having issues at the moment and I don't remember where I got the drivers

Hmmm I can't get into download mode :/

Dumb websites telling me incorrect ways -_-

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Sooooo easy! Thank you so much :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] johnmayfieldjr:
You rock! The G900A_Downgrade_to_NCE.tar file saved my S5. I was stuck in a bootloop for a couple weeks and this was the only file able to help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pakxelaos:
After update,the root was gone. Well, thanks to you muniz_ri. Got the root back. Very appreciate.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] :
I was towelrooted, GM-900A, and the OTA update happened. Now I'm on NG3 and I have no root. I did a factory reset, cache wipe, etc, but CPU-Z is still saying that my device is rooted even though none of my root apps worked (before I did the reset). When I boot, I still get the message that says "Custom" and shows an open padlock.

I'm a bit scared to try this, though. Is there any chance of bricking? I downloaded the two .tar files you linked, as well as Odin3 v3.09, and Samsung Kies 3 (for the drivers), but I have no clue what I'm doing. Is it safe to try this even though I factory reset my phone?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] muniz_ri:
You should be fine by following this process. A factory reset does not erase the root files, they are still there which is why you are showing custom device status but the OTA reset their setuid so they don't function.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] akcooper9:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2794087
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] droid_funktionz:
Seems pretty straight forward...two more questions for ya and I promise I'll stop bugging..

1. Is it okay to use the ND3 version on NG3? I didn't see a version for NG3 on that page...unless thats under a different thread

2. He says not to use rom slots on that page? I thought thats what you were supposed to do

Thanks again for your help. I appreciate the info
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] akcooper9:
You can use it on NG3

I did not use rom slots.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
Looks good and yep same settings

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

Sent from my Sexy Bacon Rockin Liquid Smoke.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Right2Bear:
Trust s5freak on this. I was concerned and as long as you follow the directions its perfect
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
With the updated Safestrap you can use Rom slots I have two Roms running on my S5 one in Stock slot and another in Rom slot 1

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

Sent from my Sexy Bacon Rockin Liquid Smoke.

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Thank you for the kind words and I love your screen name

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

Sent from my Sexy Bacon Rockin Liquid Smoke.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] droid_funktionz:
Okay...think im good to go...Bout to give Unity Rom a go...Think i got this down

One last question...

Is Titanium Backup still able to be used for backing up / restoring apps?

EDIT: I assume so...giving it a shot anyway
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] FtaWolf:
Yes.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
i am a bit confused, i wonder if you would indulge me. again, i think. i have been in I.T. for a long time (since 1974), but frankly hardly any Linux experience. G900A, ND3 w/SS on DK 4 here. i usually dont ask questions twice and do try to research, but sometimes it is hard to find the nitty gritty info.

so i been reading about the partitioning of the internal storage because i think it is important to know and understand it. i still have not found a COMPLETE tutorial (link anyone?). exactly what will be there after i wipe, then run the NG3-100%-STOCK-ROOTED.zip, then restore User Data and then ODIN the NG3-STOCK-KERNEL.tar.md5? will i still be rooted with SS? will i have my DK install back or will i have to wipe again and install DK again and reset up the phone?

and if i wanted to try Slot 1, IF, (its setup already, but empty), would i have to do the whole procedure in slot 1? the part that confuses me is does each slot have its own system/baseband? it is so hard to find this info.

or when BRI says the next build will be a rebase, does that mean that it might be NG3 or something else?

again, sorry to ask all these questions. this is a great place to ask, hopefully i will get an answer. THANK YOU.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] akcooper9:
+1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
[MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] would be the one to answer those questions or maybe [MENTION=2284570]ted77usa[/MENTION]

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

Sent from my Sexy Bacon Rockin Liquid Smoke.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
well hopefully one of them will have the time at their convenience to answer my post. thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
They will I know [MENTION=2284570]ted77usa[/MENTION] is a really busy guy but he'll check in soon enough. [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] is the OP and in my opinion a brilliant guy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] grizzlema:
So i am thinking about rooting my GS5, but want to keep it as original as possible. i read through the forum for awhile and just had to make sure before i start to flash and root.

Will this make my boot screen have the ""custon" with the lock on it?

I saw a post about triangle away, has it been confirmed to work for the AT&T SM-G900A and will this get rid of the Custom lock on the boot screen?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
i am in no hurry, i am patient. i am really fascinated by smartphones. little computer toys to me. worked with computers most of my work life. operated, programmed, managed, etc. i wish i knew more which is why i asked these very technical questions (plus i dont want to get into anything i cant get out of...LOL ). i am sure they are very smart guys and very nice to do these things for android users. Lot of brainwork to develop. It was much easier in the old days with linear programming like cobol and assembler. object oriented is a whole different animal and then there is unix/linux, a truly fast and marvelous OS, and one i know very little about. And thanks for Your replies. hope you have a good weekend.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
It absolutely will I've confirmed it many times on my S4 and S5 super easy to use just download the apk install it and follow the directions.

"All we know is...He's called the Stig!"

Sent from my Sexy Bacon Rockin Liquid Smoke.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ted77usa:
[MENTION=5042884]samccfl99[/MENTION]

Just follow OP and you are good to go. Your baseband didnt change unless u odin the kernel and modem coz we have locked BL.... so many devs didnt put any modem or baseband or kernel in their roms.Use your stockSlot asyour daily rom and try to create slot 1 to try installing another roms.... and if you like it then make your back up of your Slot 1 and then restore into stock slot..... That's why I love Safestrap. .... is like dual roms.... and yes you have to do the whole wipe thing. ...ALWAYS MAKE YOUR BACK UP BEFORE U DO ANY FLASHING... SO U CAN ALWAYS GO BACK TO WHERE U AT BEFORE U FLASHED. As far as DK rom that Brian used INT G900F firmware to get more update. NG3 are ATT official Firmware. Me,Brian,Craig [MENTION=3758230]cstayton[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] been waiting on AT&T Official Lollipop Android 5 so we can use the update and making new base on custom roms..... could be soon or never..... And BTW that u are in good hand with [MENTION=5072378]s5freak[/MENTION][emoji106][emoji41]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SkyAttacksX:
So I just got a replacement phone... My question is that will this work if it CAME with NG3, and didn't just update to it? I have NG3 out of the box and from what I can tell this is if you took the update OTA. Just needing a little clarification. Thanks in advance. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
Yep you just follow the steps take your time and you'll be fine don't skip anything and before you know it you'll be rooted :thumbup::thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] GJMX:
Think he's asking if it's OK to skip step 1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
If he already has NG3 he wouldn't need step one right?

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Skip step one if it comes with NG3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rocknmj:
Just wanting to check first since I haven't used Odin in about 2 years since I got my S3...do I put my phone in download mode BEFORE I connect to my computer, or can it be connected and just restart it into download mode? Want to get this right the 1st time. Also, I've looked and can't find anywhere to enable usb debugging? I wasn't sure if it was even an option on a stock, unrooted ROM. I've read through this post forward and back, but have yet to see the answer. I probably missed it, so figured I would just ask. I've got everything downloaded and ready to go. Just waiting to clarify these couple little things.

Thanks in advance
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] GJMX:
That's true but I think he is just looking for confirmation that starting at step 2 is OK and now he has it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
Settings >about device>build number tap that 8 or ten times turns on developer mode then you can turn on debugging.

I don't know if it matters if you boot into download first or while connected. I've done it both ways
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rocknmj:
Well look at that! I always figured that was a custom rom thing. I never would have thought to try it on a stock, unrooted one. Shows how little I know! Thanks a bunch. Now to see if rooting goes as easy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
It's really easy just take your time. The rooting part actually takes about 5 seconds. Seriously
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rocknmj:
Ok, that was easy and now (according to root checker) I have root. Now I know I need to flash the NG3 kernal now, but this warning keeps popping up saying that unauthorized changes have been made and to reboot my phone to undo. Am I gonna be back to square 1 if I reboot, or is there a way to turn that off?? :confused:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
Just go back to download mode and flash NG3 kernel
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rocknmj:
If I want to install SAFESTRAP, I need to do that before I flash back to NG3?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rocknmj:
Well, I installed SS, then reflashed NG3. Haven't started SS yet, but I have root and everything else seems to be in order. I was worried because my phone was showing "custom", but I restarted and it went back to "official". Thanks for all the help!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
No only towelroot

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Glad ya got it worked out...whenever I get the custom and the unlock symbol I run triangle away on my S5 it works perfect. I don't think it says the S5 is supported in the OP but I've used it on the S3 thru thru to and including the S5 just download the apk and follow the prompts.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1494114
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] samccfl99:
Upgrading to NG3

just wanted to tell you i finally did the NG3 update on my ND3 att s5 with new SS on DK. i followed the instructions perfectly. the only problem i had was when i just restored DATA after installing the zip, as specified, and then Odin'd the kernel.tar.md5. when it rebooted it was not like it used to be and it kept rebooting. got a little freaked but just did a battery pull (had to) and restored my whole backup DK install in SS and VOILA, after reboot the phone came back just like it was only with updated baseband, kernel and SE andr. screen shot provided even though i am sure you know what it says.

so my last question is, these parts that were updated are part of the base phone and have really nothing to do with the SS BU? so if i did a SS backup now, it would basically be the same as the one i did on ND3, correct? just trying to understand. thanks for all the help.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
Yep except now your phone is updated to NG3 and rooted your good to go and happy flashing
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] netter123:
I want to start over with a completely fresh install of NG3, with everything stock with the exception of keeping root. If I follow these steps while skipping 2 and 5, will that completely get rid of any and all changes I've possibly made and give me a totally fresh phone aside from root?

Alternative Method for Safestrap Users:

1. Place the G900A_NG3_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip onto your ext-sdcard.

[skip] 2. Use Safestrap's Backup Function to back-up User Data.

3. From the Safestrap recovery perform an "Advanced Wipe" and wipe everything but your ext-sdcard.

4. Flash the G900A_NG3_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM.zip using Safestrap's "Stock Slot."

[skip] 5. Then press "Home" then "Restore" and restore User Data.

6. Once complete press "Home" then "Reboot" and reboot into "Download" mode.

7. Last, flash the G900A_NG3_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5 using Odin's PDA slot(AP in Odin v3.09+).
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] bitnerd:
Yeah, that sounds about right. If you leave out restoring your backup then it should be stock
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jdagreek:
So after rooting in this method can you use flashify to install TWRP recovery ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
No Safestrap only
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Disabling_Knox:
Third time doing this, it always works perfectly.

Thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
+1 it just gets easier every time doesn't it:thumbup::thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Disabling_Knox:
I found this to be pretty straightforward, there's obviously a learning curve to all of this, but that's mostly due to phone versions and all the shenanigans related to bootloaders, recovery software and the odd filesystem/partition setup for all the android bits.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zounduser:
Can I flash the 100% stock rom in safestrap without having to Odin anything? I just want a stock rom. I can't believe we don't have a single stock rooted rom in android development.

I don't have a pc right now btw.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Darian71:
Page 1 of the OP (Original Post) is the download link to the stock rooted Rom sir. I'm using the sec contacts.apk from Clinch Rom running Alliance Rom to get my "whites"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] tpgchina:
rooting AT&T GS5

Perfect! Worked the first time! Thank you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zounduser:
I got it done yesterday. Thanks for the reply kind sir.

Yes but what about your dialer and messages? Are they white as well with this fix?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Darian71:
I don't know. Haven't flashed it to see. Lol. Is yours not? If not and you know how. Download this from my Dropbox and replace yours in system/priv-app and set permissions. That's what gave me my white dialer and contacts. You will notice the dialer is blue again while your in-call though. But it's white when dialing.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nzpw4xum7xcqx08/WhiteSecContacts.apk?dl=0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zounduser:
I have all whites on this Ota release. But every rom that we have including the international ones that work for us, have the darker messages, dialer, and contacts. I'll just replace with the ones I pulled from my prior rom. I appreciate all your comments bro.

Thank u,

Zound
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rkeatin3:
I don't have access to a Windows computer, so I've been trying to figure out how to follow the Safestrap steps. Maybe I'm doing something stupid, but this is all that comes up when I open Safestrap: View attachment 3090618

What am I doing wrong?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
You're not rooted you need to read quite a bit more before trying to flash anything I would start here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2697270

The screen shot you've provided is telling you what's wrong
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rkeatin3:
I figured that's what was wrong with running Safestrap, but it seemed like a catch 22 that I needed my phone to be rooted in order to root my phone... I obviously don't know what I'm doing quite yet, so thanks for the info link.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
Safestrap isn't rooting your phone it's your custom recovery that allows you to flash custom Touchwiz Roms.

You must root the device BEFORE you can run Safestrap.

You'll not be able to run AOSP Roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] tattoopisces12:
I successfully rooted my phone

Using the awesome instructions provided, I rooted my s5. It was fast and easy. Thank you!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pickupman66:
ON Stock Rooted ND3 since well.. the phone was released. Rooted with Towelroot the day it came out. worked perfectly. Disabled all updates via TiBu. Stock ND3 except tethering added and some Xposed framework mods to get rid of the crap popups for the case and back. Ugh.

Finally got around to doing mine. OTA failed so I did the ODIN back to NCE and then did the OTA from there. worked like a charm. Flashed the Kernel, Towelroot again, Flashed Kernel back and now we begin the process of doing a TiBu restore of my apps.

Wonderfully clear instructions OP! Kudos to you.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] StuC6:
Thanks, this worked great (I think I made one mistake -- installed SuperSU from zip using stock recovery and lost all my data). Is it advisable to convert from Dalvik VM to ART? Will it trip the custom lock?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mf1tym:
I just got my AT&T S5 16GB black G900A today. Upon checking the about device section I found that it already comes stock with the NG3 update. Does that mean I skip step 1 and start from step 2 of the instruction?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] killatoyota4569:
Followed this tutorial like a T., the first time it didnt work but the 2nd time it did. Thank you OP for making this for us :cyclops:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Graphicnature:
Why can we NOT install aosp Roms?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] FtaWolf:
Because we have locked bootloader. That want let us install a different kernel. Aosp roms use different kernel.

Samsung & AT&T unlock Bootloader on SM-870A.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] netter123:
I assume the rooted ng3 rom zip can be flashed using the stock recovery - is that correct?

Also, what's the point of flashing the ng3 kernel at the end of the alternative Safestrap method - does the rooted ng3 rom zip not include the ng3 kernel?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
No it doesn't NG3 kernel cannot be rooted
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] netter123:
Okay thanks. I guess I thought the rom could have been rooted with the old kernel, updated to ng3, then packaged ready to flash in the zip.

The zip can be flashed using stock recovery though right (vs Safestrap)?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
Not Stock Recovery. I didn't use that zip I just followed the OP [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] will be able to answer this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mwj2996:
S5 root

Muniz I have an S5with ND3 that I was able to root with towel root because it had an older kernel, so will this allow me to upgrade to NG3 on this phone? I also have a brand new S5 with NG3 and the kernel is from July. Can I follow the OP instructions to root it as well?

Thanks for your help!

Bit the bullet and did this on all 3 phones and it worked great. Followed the main instructions for the new phone and the alternative instructions for the 2 rooted phones that had safestrap installed. All 3 are now rooted NG3
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] OG!:
I believe I am correct

Hello. So a loooooong time ago I used this method here (look up on YouTube since I cannot put links) "How to Root Galaxy S5, S4, Note 3 on [NF+] Android 4.4.2 (TowelRoot) "

and I am hoping it is okay if I want to use safe strap correctly? My phone is already rooted and it has NG3. Do I need to redo everything but with your files or am I good?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] netter123:
FYI to anyone else interested, I was not able to flash the rooted ng3 zip via stock recovery.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SevereIdea:
Thanks so much for the instructions. It worked perfectly for me!