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[Android Head-Units] dwa87:
I ran in the same problem when I installed the HU. In my Saturn Sky there is also a pre-installed amp that expects low level signals. Since the NU3001 has no pre-amp/low-level outputs, I used a high to low level adapter (AIV 630501).

It is possible to connect the high-level outputs from the NU3001 directly to the amp but with this configuration I had hissing noises in my speakers, the volume setting was not as easy/accurate as it used to be and I heard that in the worst case it can destroy your amp.

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I bought a usb device from AliExpress. Just look for a RTL2832U/FC0013 chipset. There is a general driver for Android. I plugged it in the normal USB port and it's working so far.

The problem is really the app. Besides WaveSink there is NO app for DAB(+) (I spend hours looking). And frankly, WaveSink has a terrible UI and it is expensive.
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
OK, so it looks like I was right, it's not YunOS we have. It's AD3188_KK4.4.2_CARPAD_1.1.6 according to /device/rockchip/rk3188/system.prop
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Interesting. Wonder why she is telling us false information ? Are they trying to hide something from us? I have a weird suspicion that newsmy is developing a replacement unit for the current models thus discontinuing development for the current model
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
Funny, i've been wondering that for quite a while too...
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Well I just get a little concern with the lack of updates from them. And when there is it's almost as tho nothing was done. Now the mcu updates that have essentially bricked the hu makes one really wonder what they are up to.
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
I'm not sure, there are quite a few people on the Newsmy forums who also got caught out by that update.

I don't think it's deliberate at all, but probably more a case of inexperienced developers not doing full testing.

MCU code is generally more difficult to code and maintain and very easy to brick devices if not properly written.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
No not deliberate, more like the mcu was made for a newer hu device perhaps ?
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
You all give them way too much credit. And also the likelihood that we aren't supposed to be grabbing these updates from their personal baidu pans :)

While it's nice to have Summer's attention at times, she has little contact (and no control) over development. Misinformation or misunderstandings were likely given to her. As for bad updates, just take a look at the code :). While I admit to putting out some ****ty code, I don't do this for a living. If I could work on this stuff 40+ hours a week, I would actually read the Android guidelines :)
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
If we didn't grab the updates from where we do I doubt we would ever see one lol
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
While true, it brings up something I think we often forget. We tend to forget that this is a relatively small company (or at least the auto head unit division) dealing with a niche community on a device that is much cheaper than what the 'big guys' (Panasonic, Sony,etc). Would charge. Just look at Android Auto devices. While different, they are the closest simile to what we have. They are close to triple what most of are paying these devices.

There is an old business saying: Quality, Price, Service. You can have any two. We have what I think is a pretty decent unit at a rock bottom price. We'll have to take care of the service part ourselves. I for one am OK with that.
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
If you follow the Android headunits on Ebay, they change often and it's a race for all the different types to keep up.

I bet you most of them barely see one update before the hardware changes.

I'm almost certain that Newsmy's only upgrade plan to Lollipop is for us to buy a new model Android box that supports it.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Newsmy doesn't have the control in that particular scenario. This is a Rockchip issue. If Rockchip doesn't release an SDK for the 3188 for lollipop, Newsmy can do little about it.

Just ask Google & Samsung about the Galaxy Nexus and why it got left behind. You can largely thank TI for getting out of the cellphone business (Galaxy Nexus used TI OMAP processor), and not updating chip drivers.
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
True, but that didn't stop them telling everyone they were going to do it.

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I'd actually put our unit closer to the Pioneer avic line in hardware terms (features more than quality, although the Newsmy is one of the better Android unit's i've seen).

Prior to this unit I had a Clarion Windows CE based unit that was a complete waste of space, and that was very similar price to the Newsmy.
[Android Head-Units] Bokomaru:
I'm considering posting the source in private repositories on gitlab (since it's free for private unlike github). I'd like to keep each version in a separate branch so it's easy to compare changes. Then we can have a development branch that is our code we are working on. I would add anyone that wants in to the private group, I just want to try to respect their wishes.

I really don't want to have duplicated efforts though. So I'd want the existing contributors to the github version to agree to doing this.

It would also be really nice if Bonovo/Newsmy would take some of our modifications and add them to their code base. We are definitely cleaning up and improving code, which would be beneficial for everyone.
[Android Head-Units] snakeyes37:
Yeah, I'm thinking if I'm going to pay that much for the Carpad with capacitive buttons I might aswell slap a Nexus 7 in the dash instead. Nobody still hasn't answered my other question, does this unit have aux in?

So Huifei is coming out with quad core units? Any idea when that's suppose to happen?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
The unit does have aux in. The only issue with that is it only does aux in and nothing else. You can't minimize it to the background. It's either aux in or nothing else. The huifei unit does this better as when i had the unit I was able to use the aux in for my satellite radio & minimize it to the background. This unit I have to use Bluetooth to do that. This unit tho has better preouts over the huifei and I immediately notice this when I turned the radio on and had my sub pounding crazy hard as I had to have it cranked to work with the huifei.

You should ask your question about the huifei unit in the huifei posting. I was briefly reading that opting today and it sounds like that there is already a quad-core version available?
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
Not sure about aux in. Look at the wiki. It should detail it there. I've been messaging [MENTION=456516]typos1[/MENTION] and he claims quadcore Huifei units are already out. I can't seem to find any proof, model numbers, or places to order them though. I dunno, there's also talk of Newsmy releasing an updated version as well, but that's pure speculation, just like with phones.... I really like this unit due to the separate android box that would be upgradable, but don't like that you can't upgrade number of RCA outs without buying a whole new unit. Might just go with the huifei if only for the extra development that's been done with it. Ug. To many choices.
[Android Head-Units] Bokomaru:
The aux in sounds like something that can be fixed/improved on. Since the Android box tells the HU via serial channel the audio channel to use someone could come up with a way to cycle through the choices. Maybe a button on [MENTION=2190016]Zaphod-Beeblebrox[/MENTION]'s toolbar or a screen swipe for those that have the toolbar disabled.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
True, but out of the box this doesn't exist and who knows if it ever will.
[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
Seriously?!

1. Summer is a salesperson. She has no contact with tech resources in the company (Newsmy has 5000 employees, it's not like they all have cubes across from one another).

2. The source we have is pretty obviously leaked (or more likely carelessly left lying around) by a dev. It's certainly not put there because they decided to opensource the entire software. I suspect Summer's comment about not being for our unit started out as "not for our use" and lost something in translation. Alternatively it was the first thing she thought of after a huge oh-**** moment when the company realized that someone had posted their entire source tree on the internet (again).

3. There is a real risk of espionage and product theft in China. Newsmy are concerned about other companies using the source to produce either clones of their products or competing products. It should be clear why they aren't forthcoming about source or future product plans.

I tried to get some momentum around reaching out to Newsmy to collaborate a few pages back but exactly three people expressed interest so, yeah.
[Android Head-Units] Bokomaru:
I didn't comment because I thought it was obvious that anyone participating in the thread would be interested or at least anyone who is working on the code. So I'm interested in pursuing that route, though I highly doubt they will release the HU MCU code at all.
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
Ok, i think i've been misunderstood at some point. (Probably my own fault)

I've been watching along with the people who want to talk to newsmy, but I was certainly thinking privately that it's like asking a Microsoft support person to opensource office. EG: It's never going to happen.

Um, i'm well aware of that, i'm the one who downloaded it..

Not posting the link up till now was because people have been posting about conversations with newsmy, i was trying to be helpful to them.

Anyway, since I can't really be bothered anymore: http://yun.baidu.com/s/1pJl1A7T
[Android Head-Units] Bokomaru:
I noticed this drop the day it was posted. I don't recall the exact directory name but it was "for somebody" so I'm guessing the developer was passing it to another coworker. I'm guessing they deleted it after that person downloaded it or when someone notified them that the link was posted on here.

It was deleted less than 12 hours after it was posted, while the old version is still posted up there so that's a little odd.
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
Sorry for sounding ignorant, but what does having source allow us to do that we haven't been able to?
[Android Head-Units] ElfinJNoty:
Source would allow us to build forks of popular multi device roms
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
And it makes it easier to improve the system and apps ourselves or create new apps that work with the system.
[Android Head-Units] erick161:
They've already come out. One person is experimenting in buying the rk3188 to swap in place of the dual core rk3066 (iirc that's the number). In theory it should work just fine.

I'm torn between this unit and the huifei (and all its clones). This one I've found for cheaper tho, and its quad core. The huifei cost $350+ for the quad core units.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I've owned both, the huefei is great if your only running stock speakers. I found the unit preouts to be rather weak and it made my sub hardly work. I dont have that issue with this unit.

Each unit had their positives and negatives. I bought the newsmy due to its screen resolution & ram Where the huefei at the time didn't have the screen resolution to match and only 1gig of ram.

Build quality hands down the newsmy wins.

Software....well I'm torn. I like some features better in the huifei and then there's features I like better in the newsmy.

The newsmy i find more snappy than The huifei likely due to the quad-core & extra ram. It also spounds better & works better with my stock speakers + sub.
[Android Head-Units] -=Jeff=-:
Zaphod-Beeblebrox,

Where is your latest ROM posted at? I may have missed it.. also does the link have notes for the ROM? what work, potential issues etc?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I second this, I downloaded a image off of gdrive yesterday just haven't flashed it. Curious to see the differences in this Rom vs stock
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
Thank you. I've been looking for a concise answer to this question from someone that owned both. You say newsmy is better for aftermarket, but there's only one set of RCA outs, what are you doing for all your speakers?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Sorry the newsmy would be better for stock setups the huifei would possibly be better if you want aftermarket speakers & sub. Mind you, you could get a 5 channel amp and use the one set of pre-out to run the amp...

For my setup I'm running factory speakers with the built in amp that the hu has and using the pre-out to run my subs. Makes my 09 Vw stereo sound good.

The pre-amps on the huifei aren't very strong so I wouldn't be able to tell you how good the quality would be vs the newsmy.

If you want aftermarket then the huifei with its pre-puts might be the way to go. If you plan to stay stock with a add-on sub then I definitely would say newsmy
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
You know what kind of voltage (wattage?) The regular speaker wires are (these "preouts"?) Basically, what is the max aftermarket speaker I could get that the HU could power before needing an amp for them? I see in the wiki that the only two RCA are tied to the front channel, that shouldn't matter as I never balance or fade my stereo. Also, a lot of sub's have a "level knob" that I could run, don't they? I may not be able to control it from head unit due to the RCA not being sub out and only connected to front, right?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I'm not 100% certain on the voltage. I think the internal amp only does around 20watt rms 40watt max. So you likely would get by with any entry / mid range speaker setup. Nothing crazy tho. I'm 100% stock speakers and it sounds like I'm not.

Yes, all sub amps to have a level/gain control. Some even have adjustable bas with remote. My setup has adjustable gain and then a remote adjustable base knob. Kinda wish it was a remote gain control but oh well. Didn't look into that prior to the purchase. I had to max my gain out on my amp when I was in the huifei setup to get anything out of my sub. With the newsmy in back to where I roughly was when I had my clarion unit prior to the huifei.

Even if you were to go to a 5 channel amp it will have gain controls for the channels & a high/low filter. So you could run your complete speaker sub setup with 1 preout
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
Cool. Thanks. If I did that, I couldn't control the sub from the HU individually right? Since the preout would then be system wide control as all speakers are running on it? While I can't control the sub level perse, I could lower the sub if needed by turning down the bass via HU?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
No there really isn't any control over the preouts. The only way you could turn the bass down would be if you're running one of the custom roms made for the unit that has vipre audio installed. Or you could look for an amp with a remote gain control as an alternative for lowering the sub on the fly. Kinda wish I had that option but I can deal with the remote bass knob I have.
[Android Head-Units] pppeterrr:
hey i dont mind not able to response on the notification, since its not

really safe driving :D

but i got it working here also, but i would like to get all notifications as

a toast popup, tried some apps but not working, any ideas ?
[Android Head-Units] [Bob]:
What are the requirements for the startup animation ?

I made a 1024x628 ( full res ) 24 frames animation which is basically the same image as the boot logo. It shows up in the Factory Tool but not on the unit. Any ideas ? Thanks ! :)
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
I have a new pull request for branch KitKat in the NU3001 git. It will enable all the governors now and I added all the TCP congestion modules. I made the default Westwood.

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Anybody pull the overclocking kernel changes from another rk3188 source? I guess we could bump it up to 1.8ghz
[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
This ROM is pretty awesome. I've been using it for a while now and it's completely stable and with one exception bug-free. All the crapware is removed, Viper is installed, and it has ZB's slick configurable navbar.

It has an immersive mode (hidden nav and notification bars) which works great with Automate, but it has an area at the top and bottom of the screen that prevents touching, so you can't for example hit "Play" in GPM, search for anything in GP, or see the top line of settings in the Settings app. Hopefully that will be fixed soon and for me at least it will be perfect.
[Android Head-Units] toologic:
May be try overlocking kernel with rkpachomatic tool ?
[Android Head-Units] Black6spdZ:
I brought this up a while back and blacklistedcard said it didn't work for the kernel on the CarPad2 unit. Was this before sources were available? I dunno.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59728985&postcount=3619

It's most likely that in very small TV sticks it could have heat issues and on tablets shorter battery run-time, neither of which I believe the CarPad2 would have issues with.
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
That utility overclocks compiled kernels. I tried it but it did not find the memory tables in the compiled version of the kernel. I'll go looking for the proper tables for the rk3188 and patch the source.

I just compiled the ROM/Kernel with Linaro gcc v4.9.3. Compiled clean and I do see an improvement in speed.

It is nice to have the source code. I also see another pull request to grab and build the busybox from source.

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Does anyone know how to reconfigure the repo and edit the config files to get linaro 4.9.3 setup properly? I took the 4.9.3 files and dropped them into the 4.6 folder. Then I copied the .git folder from the original 4.6 folder. I was able to get the 4.9.3 to run and compile after that.

It would be nice to create a patch for GIT repo for linaro 4.9.3....
[Android Head-Units] horn34:
Can someone please remind me how to get an android phone connected to make calls? I used to have my Nexus 5 connected. I paired/connected it through the Bluetooth setting and there was another place it had to be connected that was specific to this NU3001 unit. Now that I've updated to Tuatara's ROM, I can't get my phone connected. It's paired/connected in the Bluetooth setting, but when I try to place a call, I get this error. I know it's supposed to be connected in another spot, but I can't find it on this ROM..
[Android Head-Units] erick161:
Ah I see. Well currently my car is completely rewired with aftermarket speakers and dual amps (1 powering my sub of course).

Having one set of preouts would be rather annoying. Damn, I was almost set on this head unit too, but I appreciate the advice/opinions since you've had both.
[Android Head-Units] B-Hard:
Is there an tutorial how to flash tuataras custom rom?

I think i have to use rkbatchtool but im not sure?

Flashed some custom roms earlier on my nexxus devices but dont know how to do it on the newsmy.

Just want to do it cause of the viper app to control my preinstalled bose system.

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] horn34:
Is this right? I've been unable to get Viper working using the instructions provided here and I'm at a dead end troubleshooting. I'm using PowerAmp, and with a song playing, when you check Viper, I see:

Viper is not processing. Does it not work with PowerAmp?
[Android Head-Units] horn34:
What is the Bluetooth app?
[Android Head-Units] toologic:
From my bookmarks - Compiling Rockchip Kernel (for Linux on RK devices)

#start out from the user's home and create "rk" folder for all the work
cd ~
mkdir rk
cd rk
#toolchains folder is where the ARM compiler toolchain will be downloaded to [3]
git clone https://github.com/DooMLoRD/android_prebuilt_toolchains.git toolchains
....
#set the target architecture and toolchain location (CHANGE the base folder if you are not using ~/rk/)
export ARCH=arm
export CROSS_COMPILE=~/rk/toolchains/arm-eabi-linaro-4.6.2/bin/arm-eabi-
#launch the Kernel compilation (-j 4 indicates that 4 compiler threads run in parallel, I have a quad-core PC...)
make -j 4
[Android Head-Units] B-Hard:
Just flashed Tuatara 1.1.4.2 an now my android box reboots several times every 3-4 Minutes.

Does anyone has the same problem in this case?
[Android Head-Units] luke911:
You could look at using a crossover to break out the 2 channel pre-outs to a pair of 3 (F/R/S). The one I'm thinking about using is the Clarion EQS746.
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
Looking at the Huifei, it doesn't have an android box. Is it the same premise as this but with the box built into the HU? Why would Newsmy choose to have an external one?
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
It does work with PowerAmp. You have to find the advanced audio settings and untick "direct volume control" (may not be 100% accurate as I'm recalling from memory)
[Android Head-Units] erick161:
Problem is...where would I mount that?? Only spot I could think of would be somewhere in the glovebox (doesn't seem practical tho). It would work if I was using a single din radio in my double din slot...
[Android Head-Units] luke911:
I have a 1/2 DIN slot in my 2007 F-150 but I was really thinking of just mounting it somewhere out of the way close the my planned location for my amps under my rear seat. You could leave the levels at 0 and just use it as a nice splitter to break out the 1 pair of pre-outs to a 3 pair of pre-outs.
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
In the Bluetooth application. Make sure it's set to "On"
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
You can detach it and take it into the house. Instead of pulling the dash out and then unbolting the radio. I think its a better option.
[Android Head-Units] erick161:
Seems like an expensive ass splitter lol.

However, if I use a generic splitter (1set RCA, into 3) would the sub still be able to be controlled via a base knob if I installed one on the amp that powers the sub? I'd imagine so?
[Android Head-Units] luke911:
lol so true

I would think though having the crossover split the signals out would maybe be cleaner of a signal than having the crossover built into an amp? Maybe over the top like you say though.

I would assume a gain on your sub amp would be able to increase the level on the amp itself.
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
From what I understand, yes. You would need one of those sub adjustment knobs that runs all the way back. Sucks that you can't control it from the head unit like you've been able to do since 2005 or earlier...
[Android Head-Units] erick161:
The crossover would definitely be cleaner than just running a splitter. However, my main problem is where to put the equalizer? I have a Cobalt SS and there's no space in the dash area. Maybe the trunk with the sub and amps? Just wouldn't be able to adjust on the fly, which sucks. This head unit really threw me for a loop with only 1 set of preouts...

Yeah figured as much. Damn, my old ass Kenwood HU I'm replacing did all this for me...and its like 8+ years old.
[Android Head-Units] supremekizzle:
Eff it. Sick of the internal debate I'm having choosing this or the Huifei. Gonna just pull the trigger on this tonight. Even if it has quirks it's still better than what I'm rocking now.
[Android Head-Units] pppeterrr:
touch screen not responding

do you guys also have, that after boot the touch screen doesnt work

rebooting the unit makes it ok, wonder why this happens

i'm on zb latest