yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Accessories] emilycc:
where did you buy yours? found a website selling it for $60 right now, still a bit outside my $50 budget for a pedometer/watch
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
I got mine last week. The battery is at 48%. I had updated the software to 3.14 and everything works well except the remote music. The battery life is good too.

The downside is how the way the notification is display. It display in a rather confusing way and need big improvement on this.

Other than that the quality of the watch is awesome but i expect to get boring with it pretty fast as there are not much function to explore.
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
Yah, the devs are supposedly working on the solution of music control, at the same time when they just launched another product, a health wristband thingie. At the moment the wristband do have more functionality but tommy still superiors in hardware, and admins have replied that "they are working on making sure everything run fine, then bring additional functions" to tommy. So yah, id say im looking forward to it.

And i totally agree with the fact that you might loose interest quick, i already started to. Its not necessary a bad thing tho, as i find myself grabing my tommy every morning and most of the time my brain's still asleep, i din develop this habit with my Seikos and Orients. :D
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Top 3 functions we want

Thanks, sounds gooooood :fingers-crossed:

1. How many people on this (WeLoop) thread are currently in contact with the WeLoop Devs?

2. All bugs are reported to the devs through the Tommy WeLoop (TWL) forum, not here, right?

3. The community is growing, shall we all post our top three 'groups of functions' we want developed? As in not just three functions, but group them. We are the XDA TWL Test Team :good:

Who wants to go first. . . . while i think of my 3 groups of functions?
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
Sounds interesting! I`m a native chinese speaker so yah, I could and have reported whatever bugs i find to the cn forum, where I would expect faster responses. As of development, there must be better qualified people then me, as I'm your typical user/fiddler, technical opinions arnt really my expertise.

Oh btw, 3.15 release have been delayed, as the devs fixed some bugs, but the new codes created instability. They are testing/debugging 3.15 now and its likely going to take um a whole night (again...overtime isnt always...paid in China...big respect now). Release could be expected before 1400 Friday, Beijing time.
[General Accessories] nekisia:
[MENTION=3996566]vectron[/MENTION] & [MENTION=2307479]ratul[/MENTION]p, thanks for yours useful replies. [MENTION=1938297]simple1i[/MENTION], before my delivery comes to my hand I've already thought my groups of function.

1. turn by turn navigation with Google maps.

2. Full function and standalone clock app (chronometer, counter, alarm, etch)

3. Full fitness tracking( walk, running, swimming)
[General Accessories] Mr_Crispy:
Charging cable

Spare charging cables are now available at Dealextreme:

dx.com/p/usb-2-0-charging-cable-for-weloop-smart-watch-black-355898
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
fw 3.15 and apk 2.6 released

So yep, new fw 3.15 is now out, along with the new client version 1.26. New clients are now accessible at http://www.pgyer.com/andobt for Android, and pgyer.com/iosobt for IOS. Make sure to clear cache, uninstall the old client before installing. And the new clock faces look pimp~! And hell yeah! Music control finally works great now on Nexus 4, test it out fellas!

Ill try to translate the change logs.

Fw 3.15:

1. Increased stability for health data syncing

2.. Increased stability for clock face syncing

3. Reduced defult watch face number to 1

4. FW UI optimization

5. Notifications now display arriving time

6. Fixed bt instability and missing notifications for IOS 8

7. Tommy now officially support iPhone 6 and 6+

Android client 1.26:

1. Now supports Meixzu MX4 ( Which i guess a lot of mtk related bugs are being fixed)

2. Fixed "unknown device" error when auto reconnecting

3. Increased stability for health data syncing

4. Increased stability for clock face syncing

5. Increased stability for music control

6. Fixed some notification pushing bug

7. Fixed bugs that caused random client crash

IOS client 2.069

1. Added support for iPhone 6, 6+ and 4s

2. Added support for IOS 8.02

3. Increased stability for health data syncing

4. Increased stability for clock face syncing

5. Bug fix for apk fc

6. Bug fix for none functioning alarm
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
I updated to 3.15. Havent fully test it out. But i hope the music player control would include volume control as well.

There is one new face watch with chinese wording, other than that nothing much.
[General Accessories] GeorgT:
Successfully updated to 3.15 too but with a quick test the music control still don't work (Nexus 4) 100% right (the back button have again the problem), tested it with apollo and Google music!

Fitness syncing finally works fine!
[General Accessories] LaurensBER:
Is it possible to do sleep tracking yet?
[General Accessories] GeorgT:
Nope
[General Accessories] andjan1964:
Finaly got my Watch from DX

Successfully updated to 3.15 on the RED one..... but i had to "unpair it" in bluetooth settings to get the % in update to start....... :)
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
If you refer to the earlier post this is the procedure to perform update.
[General Accessories] strutter66:
unfortunately the android link on the page pgyer.com/andobt (click install) does not work now :(

can someone share the app elsewhere?
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
Bro use ur mobile browser to download.
[General Accessories] bushjasen:
I would like to know what is the latest apk?
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Please see post #301
[General Accessories] strutter66:
I've tried with my pc... on the phone I had more luck :)
[General Accessories] kingnappa:
latest update 3.15

Hi, just uploaded latest beta firmware and everything is perfect! Now music control works just fine!

It would be awesome if this smartwatch

1) could let you increase or change font on the display

2) have scrolling artist name and song track while using the music function

3) extract real content from email or whatsapp or from other notifications

Just my two cents.... :D

Ps. I've charged this phone october 10th, and today is at 51%... :cool:
[General Accessories] UnholySociopath:
Music control seems better but still failing to move tracks occasionally, using it with Spotify.
[General Accessories] gokhantosun:
i just ordered both of them, One plus one and Weloop Tommy let's see how we go after i received my delivery :)

i was trying to understand weloop orginal web side, some of the fellas works on sdk in the main forum but i really need some one who is able to understand Mandarin:(
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
Hi guys,

i had bought the pre-sale unit.

When i try to download the app from google play i notice i couldn't download it as there is a error stating your country restriction error. I am from Malaysia.

Please help to upload the standalone apk for me to download. thanks in advance.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Go to weloop.cn and click on the second link at the top which brings up QR code link with direct download of the app.
[General Accessories] mesang:
I'm also very interested in this smartwatch. I'm very curious how good the watch actually will be, especcially app support and future updates. I found http://www.welooptommy.com which has an English forum, but it doesn't look active yet. Maybe there will be some support in the future?

Also to Vectron, why did you already recieve yours? On DX it says preorder?
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
he received his unit base on the unboxing picture.

I had pre-order but still under payment processing...

Vectron i had download the app thanks. By the way i saw there is a new update 3.1.1 something and when i try to upgrade it said DFU error.

Did you face that?

What are the cons of this watch do you mind sharing?
[General Accessories] m1d4p5:
Basic functions?

Hello guys,

Does this watch have the "watch's basic fucntions", like alarm, chrono, timer?

Thank you,

Toni
[General Accessories] vectron:
It doesn't have it yet (basic functions), and I assume still work in progress since the app has what appear to be an entree for "clock" but says "coming soon". As I mentioned before, hardware is very solid, but they are still working on App and firmware features. Just think of Pebble and how basic it started. WeLoop is already ahead from what Pebble was at it's beginning. With official release, more users, growing community, and more apps to come - I think all this will be added soon. I"m not hyping it up, just being realistic. Like I said, the most important is to have a finished solid hardware. From what I'm seeing, they got some software support as well.

I think there is some holiday in China now, so I can't get a hold of anybody, but I'm trying to get in touch with WeLoop to talk to someone who speaks English. Obviously, I have a lot of feedback to give them :)

Also, for those who are asking how I got this smartwatch. I'm Reviewer, the products are sent to me for review by either manufacturers directly or through retailers like dx.com. I didn't purchase this watch, but very eager to continue testing and see how it evolves.

Right now after 4 days of use, the battery is at 88% with backlight on, which means it turns on a lot with every shake or move (could be disabled to conserve battery even further). I think it will be realistic to get at least 2 weeks of use from it.

Regarding firmware update, it was effortless. Found 3.11 fw, and downloaded it straight to my watch through OTA (over the air) update. Didn't have to connect watch to laptop for a firmware transfer.

With a list of "cons", I still need to figure out if I can take off the wristband, but otherwise - it just needs more watch apps and enabling more features in smartphone app. Too early to tell or to judge it yet. One thing I can't wait for is more customizable watchfaces. This is not a hi-rest display, but it's very efficient and Always ON. I need 12hr clock with date and weather and some other notification icons so I can have everything at a glance (similar to Metawatch). Also, my other gripe, when you click Enter button it takes you to the main menu and I wish Notification would be the top choice since it's the most common one to look at to see which notifications you missed. Instead, you have to scroll down. Of course, this is easy to fix in firmware (just need to provide my feedback). Also, I wish I can actually see the email message, but this could be a limitation of RAM on the watch to store the message for display.

If anybody, perhaps who speaks/reads Chinese, will find a contact email for WeLoop guys, please PM me or post in this thread so we can get them in our XDA "loop" ;)
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Until you find someone who speaks Chinese you could try Google Translator. It's quite good.

Thanks for the feedback. The battery life is what made the Pebble work mostly. So this has massive potential... Once the software is sorted.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Thanks for the link, just registered in there. Seems to be unofficial forum for that watch. Hopefully it will get WeLoop developers attention, and perhaps they can join XDA community to chime in as well.

Btw, I'm "twister6" everywhere else on the net, only "vectron" on XDA ;) Long story, but it generates a lot of confusion where people constantly tell me that someone under a name of "twiste6" stealing my pictures and copying my reviews, and wise verse people telling me on other forums that someone under a name of "vectron" stealing my stuff lol!!!
[General Accessories] vectron:
I know, but Google translator is OK to "read" what's already posted. I need to talk to these guys to find out when updates are coming, what are they updating, and maybe beta test App and firmware to provide my feedback.

As I mentioned, right now I really want a custom watchface to be enabled and also Notification history to be moved at the top of settings list (the most logical place for a quick access without scrolling to get to it).

Btw, I never had or tested Pebble, but know a lot of people who rave about it, battery life being my biggest envy. I don't care much about Android based smartwatches, or those with sim card. Just my own personal preference since I prefer a watchface on with notifications so I don't have to pull out my Note 2 constantly. Also, I don't want to charge my smartwatch every other day, it has to last at least 1-2 weeks. So far WeLoop fits the bill!

Another comment, when you get email notification, you get 5 lines of text including who is it from, subject line, and whatever other text from the beginning of the email it can fit. So it all depends on the length of a subject line and amount of text. I would like to see, at least with an incoming email (not the one stored in Notification history buffer) a full buffered message where I can scroll up/down to read it. Notification history can store just a basic info, but when I receive the message - would be good to scroll and read it, though I'm sure there going to be some limitation per amount of character displayed.
[General Accessories] andyjeezy:
Can you change the clock from military to 12 hour time? Thats a make or break deal for me.
[General Accessories] vectron:
It's actually a bug in their pre-release fw version. There is an option in Setup to switch between 12hr vs 24hr format. I also found another bug where every 2 days it switches back to Chinese language. Since I'm reviewing and beta-testing it, I already provided initial feedback through my dx.com contact, WeLoop team received it and already acknowledged that fixes will be applied shortly. As a matter of fact, English will be a default language in the future firmware updates.

I'm very pleased to see active development work, though I can't communicate with them directly due to a language barrier (have to use my marketing contact at dx.com). All the firmware updates are done OTA, and I will make sure to post about it in this thread as soon as I get and test it. I guess they are getting ready for September 15th shipment to finalize and to fix all the bugs.
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
I'm very pleased tot hear how serious they are regarding software developement.

Thats where a lot of Chinese compagnies fail at. Cant wait to get my hands on this watch.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Btw, using it for the 5th day with an average volume of incoming notifications (home and work emails, caller id, calendar reminders, some text,e tc), fitness tracker enabled (collects data everyday about steps, calories, and walking distance - though it resets at midnight), backlight and motion and night setting enabled as well, and watchface is always ON - battery is still at 71% now. Also, I don't disconnect the watch, it's always paired up.

Plus, every time I'm washing my hands, I intentionally put my wrist under the water to soak it - no issues what so ever and charging contacts still clean (want to make sure there is no corrosion after the water).

So far so good. Can't wait for more watchfaces, and whatever other apps they are going to add.
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
Its good to hear positive feedback from you and how the serious the developer.

I am eager to wait for watch to be sent out at 15sept... its a long long wait for me...
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Re: google Translator - I used it yesterday it let's you write in English and you can select the language to translate too. It's has both traditional and simplified Chinese. Go check it out, might help until you find a human Translator. [emoji106]

For example this in (simplified) Chinese: 你是一个美妙的程序员，我爱你 means "Your are a wonderful programmer and i love you"

...in case you needed to express your gratitude :D
[General Accessories] tomic22:
same here! Like a clock that displays 22:00 when its 10 pm. = Answer: Possible in final release version

Also wondering about any info about a SDK for this little gadget! :fingers-crossed:
[General Accessories] sulin69:
vectron: Have you asked about sleep tracking and smart alarm?
[General Accessories] ThemeSong:
I did the pre order a few days ago.

I am also interested in the sleep tracking function, like sulin69.
[General Accessories] LaurensBER:
I'll get a source for you in a few hours but yes, they're working on sleep tracking using an algorithm from MIT. Could be interesting :)

I'm personally a bit more interested in how much storage this device has and how the SDK/Watch faces will work. To be frank, customizable watch faces where you can only change the background aren't that interesting, the're some really cool watch faces available for the Pebble, it could be interesting to see if we can port those.

Source

It seems that the official app has a menu entry for "Weloop App" and Alarms now. It will be interesting to see what they make possible. The pebble has some interesting applications, a way to control my Desktop Spotify or XBMC from my wrist would be cool :)
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Can vibrator be turned of for silent notifications?

Once the software ready i am interested in the stand-alone features/functions too, time alarm, timer ...etc.
[General Accessories] ramica:
No activity? Why?? If there are record steeps... Run latest firmware 3.15 and latest iOS app 2.069...
[General Accessories] andjan1964:
YES.. Bigger fonts would be great, so i don't need to put on glasses to read who is calling.etc....
[General Accessories] onizukao:
Works perfect with oneplus one (3.15 firmware)
[General Accessories] weirder:
Anyone started tinkering with it?

I didnt like the way it presented the whatsapp notifications. Couldnt keep track of it.. Tasker and whatstask plugin gives me a single, clean notification per message now. Also deletes the notification directly afterwards as not too polute the notification drawer. Still need something that marks whatsapp as read

Also looking into a way to clean up google now messages, since i get spammed right now with weather and time till home cards

Any more ideas as to enhance the watches info?
[General Accessories] UnholySociopath:
I know of the find my phone feature, but as somebody who has now lost the watch multiple times I'd appreciate a find the watch feature, currently I just set a load of alarms one minute after each other till I find the thing vibrating under something.
[General Accessories] bushjasen:
get it. Thank you!!
[General Accessories] slackman99:
I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered.

I'd be interested to hear more about cleaning up Whatsapp notifications with Tasker if you have a spare few minutes to reply?

Also hoping to pair the watch with a OnePlus rather than my current Nexus 4. But i'm still trying to hunt down an invite for one (so if anyone has an invite spare and wants to help me out, that would be amazing!)
[General Accessories] andjan1964:
A tasker app on the watch would be great.
[General Accessories] simple1i:
My 3 groups of functions

Here are my three groups of features:

1. SPORTS: The usual health & fitness features:

- stopwatch, timer

- Sleep tracker

- pedometer, walking, swimming

- Compass (the watch has a Gyroscope & 3D compass sensor **See below link) so should make best use of them.

- ...etc.

2. WIDGETS ...kind'of:

Either on the home-screen or on another screen editable (as in add/removable) information about the phone AND watch all on one screen: (like the Sony SW2)

- Small time & date

- battery indicator

- volume indicator, mute indicator

- Weather

- bluetooth/wifi/data indicator

- how many new emails/whatsapp, calendar event (as in a count)

- ...etc.

3. PROFILE configurable for watch & phone

- So can choose any combination of: vibration off/on, light off/on to receive silent notifications

- Phone mute/un-mute

- wifi/bluetooth on off on the watch & phone

- larger font selection

...etc.

** XDA user: RobertNL's review - shows the watches sensors.
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
Could you please explain how you configured this?
[General Accessories] weirder:
Pretty simple actually, look into the correct variable naming though since I'm winging it in this post.

Get tasker and whatstask plugin.

Profile in tasker; State - plugin - whatstask

Task in tasker;

if %whatstaskgroupname is set

notify %wgroupname - %wname - %wtext

else

notify %wname - %wtext

end if

wait 1 second

notify cancel

Set weloop to not catch whatsapp, and catch tasker.

Unlikely, the watch doesnt appear to be designed for apps. Yet pushing info (one-way) to the phone is easy with tasker.
[General Accessories] bushjasen:
it's don't compatible with a smartphone android with bluetooth 2.0

Only support Bluetooth 4.0 smartphone with Android4.4 and iOS 7﻿..
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
[MENTION=2805457]weirder[/MENTION]: I`ve fiddled around with it for a bit (not familiar with tasker, nor programming etc). It would be awesome if you could assist with some more info and/or screenshots, for other users too.

[MENTION=6075226]bushjasen[/MENTION]: yes, android 4.3+ and bt 4.0 are the minimal requirements.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Well, today is my 22nd day on a single battery charge and I still have 35% of battery left!!!!!!! I think I'm going for a full month of use on a single battery charge!!! Keep in mind, firmware was updated prior to the last full battery charge. I noticed that going through firmware updates and watchface updates does take a toll on your battery.

Setting is Backlight - Nite, Motion - Nite, Night - On, Fitness - OFF (I had it on for the first week, but have no use for it so turned it off to extend battery), Anti-Loss - OFF. Obviously screen is always on, using one of the custom watchfaces. Also, in these 22 days I didn't control music playback or camera. Notifications include my phone calls, my txt messages, calendar appointments/reminders, Whatsapp, and 5 email accounts. Running FW 3.14 and the last official Playstore version 1.25.3520 with watch always connected 24-7. My phone is Note 2 with a stock 4.4.2.

This is simply amazing for a battery life. I already forgot where is my charging cable lol!!! Btw, waiting for a second replacement one from dx.com, just in case.
[General Accessories] weirder:
I suggest looking into the manual from whatstask. Should point you in the right direction. I only have my phone available this week since im travelling so im not gonna be of much help to you
[General Accessories] weirder:
Just saw this image at Gearbest. Havent seen those watchfaces... Even a picture in one. That's new.. Did anyone else see any more examples?

[IMG="New watchfaces"]http://des.gearbest.com/uploads/2014/201409/heditor/201409301343175650.jpg[/IMG]
[General Accessories] weirder:
For cleaning up the the google now stuff. Just to get rid of the weather and time till home cards ( since they update a few times a day)

Get tasker autonotification, make a profile catching google search notifications and add the following task

It is followed by an End if.

^^^not working for me, dont get your hopes up.. I cant believe how google now is misbehaving in the notification panel... we'll see. There's options, but disregard this post as usefull...
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
weirder, I've set 2 whatstasker profiles. the first to read received messages to me when my headset is plugged in and the second to intercept and edit notifications like you described.

Could it be possible these two are conflicting ?
[General Accessories] otamraz:
watches for sale

Hi guys,

i will sell my tommy watch,battery life is max.24 hours and after 3 weeks i did´t got any answer from DX:(
[General Accessories] davifigo:
Try again.. They send to me a new one