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[Galaxy Note 4 General] alien0101:
note4

I am planing to buy note4..just wanted to check if we are getting same processor as international version. Guys who have bought it plz throw some light if there are any major differences between indian and international version.

I also feel price is quite high 55K..and because of S6 launch it may go down..any idea???
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
There are total of 4 variants i guess of Note 4. 2 Snapdragon & 2 Exynox.

In india you will only get the snapdragon variant i.e. N910G.

By any change, if you get the Snapdragon variant N910F - BUY IT.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] malakalofung:
Im from SL dude, Lollipop hasnt hit SL yet. We are too desperately waiting.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Yep. But its samsung. They can do the impossible when it comes to timelines.

I hope we get it this month, if not this week.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alien0101:
Can u please tell me what is difference between snapdragon N910G and N910F?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] senectus:
well in part:

3G bands	HSDPA 850 / 900 / 1900 / 2100

HSDPA 850 / 1700 / 1900 / 2100 - N910W8

4G bands	LTE 700/800/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600

(Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 17, 20) - N910F, N910C

LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600 TD-LTE 2300 / 2600 (Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 28, 38, 40) - N910G

LTE 700 / 850 / 900 / 1700 / 1800 / 1900 / 2100 / 2600

(Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 12, 17) - N910W8

LTE 700/850/900/1700/1800/1900/2100/2600

(Bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 28) - N910U

Speed	HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE Cat4 150/50 Mbps (N910C)

HSPA 42.2/5.76 Mbps, LTE Cat6 300/50 Mbps (N910S)

Frequency Band differences...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
you wont feel any difference except the model name, internally the modem is different, the rest is same
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
Even the note 3 in India got lillipop update..!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alien0101:
Internation version is 64 bit and indian version is 32 bit..

64 bit is always better than 32 bit...so why here people are choosing snapdragon over exyons???
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nishant786:
Because the ROMs are not yet optimised for 64bit, nor is the ram. Which leads to a marginal increase in performance and also marginal decrease in battery life. The reason for preference however is the overall better dev support for snapdragon in the past.

Plus people here have no choice - only snapdragon available officially in India.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alien0101:
I am seeing very mixed reviews on internet about Note4..is it worth buying or go for some other phone...

Do we have cynanogen roms available for note4(snapdragon) or any other custom stable roms???

I am stuck with Note3 samsung rom...want to get rid of samsung rom...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nishant786:
I won't be able to tell you exactly since I'm using the edge. What I can say is that I am truly in love with my phone, its the first time I'm using an android as my primary phone, having used all android flagships in the past and found them lacking. And the edge is so good only because the note 4 itself is an outstanding phone. Its truly powerful and useful now, not just full of half baked gimmicks like phones of the past. And also the stock ROM is quite stable and I haven't found a reason to root it yet.

The only reason I had was theming and even that seems to be coming soon.

So as far as I can say, the Note 4 is an outstanding phone truly deserving of all praise heaped upon it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Samsung announces new 8 MP ISOCELL sensor for front-facing cameras

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...OCELL-sensor-for-front-facing-cameras_id66787

Probably for Note 5... i think Note 5 Will be Epic Phone... :highfive:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] guitarmafia:
Definitely for note 5..since they are starting mass production in second half of the year.. What other high end phone is samsung releasing in the second half? None other than the note 5 and note 5 edge.

Sent from my SM-N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sgr41:
I am planning to buy a new phone and this time i want to try note series obviously note 4 :p ( now i use s series) soo any suggestions? Which model is better ? And what abt note edge is it better than note 4 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Both note 4 and edge are awesome devices. It all comes down to your preference whether you want the curved edge or not.

As for the difference between SD and Exynos, there isn't much of a difference to worry about. Go ahead with whatever is available in your country.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jayesh:
Why is it better? Apart from being a bigger no? What are you expecting to do on 64 bit mobile processors, that you cannot already experience on the standard Note 4s? Will it magically extend battery life, improve the OS to iOS level kinetic scrolling, fix the low shutter rate etc?

Why is it better? Really really curious.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RISHI RAJ:
Hello Guys why private mode doesn't work while using art?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] guitarmafia:
Yes exactly as u said.. It ll magically do those things.. take it this way, it is better to have a 64bit os on a 64bit processor than to have a 32bit version of a 64bit os on a 32bit processor.

Sent from my SM-N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
yes 64 bit and the new arm architecture is good, exynos 5433 soc has better performance than snapdragon 805, but you have to understand the fact that exynos 5433 is 64bit capable but will never get 64bit support enabled. One more thing to choose snapdragon is to get long term support in terms of aosp roms, snapdragon note 4 has a got a stable cm12 whereas exynos version is no where near a beta build of cm12
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RISHI RAJ:
Updated my Note 3 to lp yesterday.Mute Bug is there.Notification bar doesn't open full.Also the panel where all quick buttons are there is not extended to whole screen

Fluidity & responsiveness has increased on large level.S pen has also been improved (which I think).Note 4 like u but fainted (I didn't like)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tanmays005:
http://www.amazon.in/MACC-Tempered-...F8&qid=1425537597&sr=8-2&keywords=macc+note+4

Doesn't cover the entire screen
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Lollipop where are you!

Just contacted a Samsung rep and acted like a total noob :p

Asked him about when lollipop is gonna land on "Note 4 Indian 2.7 GHz model" rofl

Apparently, he was more clueless than what I pretended to be. Finally he did a search at his end and reverted with "N910G?" I was like yeah .. at least that's what 'about phone' tells me the model is lol

And finally, as expected...I didn't get a tentative update schedule out of him. He just said its gonna be SOON. Don't know how many weeks/months count as SOON by Samsung.

Back to waiting now lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
February 30th is already gone :D:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nishant786:
February 30th? The wait seems to be screwing with our brains. :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Seriously lets buy s6 or note 3 for lollipop lol :p

Give us lollipop as holi gift Samsung!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
True. Even the predecessor for official Lollipop update.!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
may be :p

lets keep dreaming about 5.0.2 with new features like s6 till then , it will come some day :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
lol I already am doing that!!

Yesterday I changed my theme twice while sleeping :D :D :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RISHI RAJ:
I think they will maintain the s6 exclusivity of 5.0.2 & release 5.0.1 after s6 hit the shelves & gather some sales.Note 4 isn't going to have lollipop flavour soon
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Agree with you on 5.0.2 exclusivity reason. But I think they should release a bug free lollipop firmware for our note...hopefully 5.0.2 or even 5.1(if they delay it another 2 months).

The only thing I don't like about Samsung is its slow updates and to some extent the sound quality. HTC puts it to shame there. Otherwise IMO Sammy has got some of the best devices in market today.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] arjunedaz:
Note 4 Sell

Hi,

How much can i expect to sell a note 4 that is used only for a week. I hate this device now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] badelemental:
WTF ... Even Note 3 is getting Lollipop update. This is insane. Are they playing with us ... Suckers
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kickass.toshi:
UNFARE

this ain't fare Samsung is launching s6 with all new lollipop 5.02 which is additionally customized by them and for NOTE 4 Google's 5.01 THIS IS ****..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] guitarmafia:
Sound quality? Ok i ll give u that.. Htc one series has better sound quality through speakers. Not that Samsung has a bad sound quality. And through headphones samsung phones with exynos version are way better than htc.

And samsung is way faster than any other major oems when it comes to updates. Note 4 is a special case scenario otherwise htc can only dream about being as good as samsung. Thats why htc is dying.

Sent from my SM-N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RISHI RAJ:
5-7k down from what you've spent
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rizwankalwal:
US SPRINT got Lollipop update today
[Galaxy Note 4 General] saj2001ind:
http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/05/galaxy-note-3-also-getting-lollipop-update-in-india/

anyone samsung lovers can tell us the logic behind Note 3 getting the crucial update than Note 4 ?

it seems samsng dont want ppl to buy their flagships anymore
[Galaxy Note 4 General] m4gg0t:
I'm getting really annoyed that we haven't gotten lollipop yet. Was using lollipop on my gf s5 and i love it, can't wait to see it on the note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
[MENTION=751251]saj2001ind[/MENTION] they have already released lollipop for S4 and u r talking about note 3 lollipop.. i think note 4 will get android M directly by this year end :D

---------- Post added at 04:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:54 PM ----------

Sprint’s Galaxy Note 4 is now getting treated to Lollipop

http://www.sammobile.com/2015/03/05/sprints-galaxy-note-4-is-now-getting-treated-to-lollipop/

---------- Post added at 04:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:00 PM ----------

So it means, we will get Android 5.01 only...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pnsdhrn:
Thank you tanmay
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
yes, we will get 5.0.1 only, probably in the next 1-2 days.fingers crossed.:laugh:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
200GB microSD card announced by SanDisk

http://www.futuretimeline.net/blog/2015/03/3.htm#.VPiLrfmUfVI
[Galaxy Note 4 General] m4gg0t:
Sprint got it so seems in a few days we might get it also.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] senectus:
is the Sprint Note 4 similiar to the N910G?

I presume its Snapdragon..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
It is N910P model... seems SD variant only...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] senectus:
ok, well that's promising.

not by much, but at least its not a exynos which would mean nothing to our N910G's
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vicelord_l:
Isn't it possible to install lollipop ROM of 910f on 910g? Both the models are almost similar.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] guitarmafia:
Its mean it ll be available for india very very soon.. They only have to add regional stuff.. Unless they are doing something drastically different for us lol.

Btw happy holi to everybody. Hoping for belated 5.0 holi wishes from samsung soon.

Sent from my SM-N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] anilkumarpt12:
Guys,

I just found an awesome app. which will unlock all lock screen effects without root in Note 4. Try it your self :)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/...ts&rdid=com.xpe.app.galaxy.lockscreen.effects
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:


Nothing promising here, careers are the very last to release the roms. Its really a shame sprint got it first before us. Yes both are identical device but roms will be different.

it cannot be done until we get a lollipop rom , our bootloader needs to be updated, post that we can use any 910f roms
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Nothing promising here, careers are the very last to release the roms. Its really a shame sprint got it first before us. Yes both are identical device but roms will be different.

Totally Agree with u in this
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
Its like tortoise winning the race while the rabbit is still running:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] saj2001ind:
Simply put Samsung still putting india their last priority in terms of updates not even learning from htc or best of all lg...as their g3 got official lollipop like 1 or 2 months back in india, first flagship
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
LOL exactly..:D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sgr41:
Which phone would you prefer S6 edge or Note edge?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
Joined the N4 gang

Hey guys, just got my Note 4 an hour back. Back to waiting for LP5 I guess :) My Note 3 had been upgraded just a few days ago.

Just downloading a 166 MB update. That's not LP5 for sure. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
go for edge, stay unique from the android crowd ;)

defenitely not :D, welcome to the thread bud
[Galaxy Note 4 General] m4gg0t:
I rather go for thw s6 then the edge, find the edge not appealing to me. I can't wait already for lollipop, it's takibg too long.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dr.ketan:
Then cry for development. Lol

Just joking. But really who are affectionate to customization should not go with such unique device as development support will be very minimal.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
Ya, apart from the custom kernel and roms they can customize the rest, I think the s6 edge will sell more than s6 which will attract developers. One more thing with s6 is its going to have same soc on all places, going to be awesome for devs to support all models, just like the good old s2,s3 days ;)

Texted from Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dr.ketan:
Actually Samsung have messed up with too many variants. If Samsung make 10 variant then naturally developer distributed according availability at their place. Most of variant have hardly 2 to 5 percent difference except modem or bootloader. Can this not manage by Samsung? Difficult to understand Samsung policy for too many variants.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
Yea, last I checked note 4 had 12 variants lol, at least samsung has learned some lessons with s6 from what we have seen so far

Texted from Note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] guitarmafia:
Actually from what i can see, there would be no problem using the same rom on both s6 and s6 edge. Ofc u ll loose the edge features but s6 edge is different from note edge. Note edge has a separate curved screen section which doesn't act as a part of the main display. But on s6 edge there is no divide between the plain and curved section of the screen. U can see that in a lot of apps(browser, mail, etc). So yeah, if the internals are exactly the same (which i think they are, except for the battery) then it ll be fairly easy to make the same rom compatible with both devices. If developers dont even want to do than then they can just account for the different battery capacity and release the same rom for both devices. A small sacrifice ll be the lack of edge features but users who are so adamant on using custom roms wont mind that.

That's my opinion only.

Sent from my SM-N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] badelemental:
Getting impatient now. What the hell is going on with Samsung. All older gen mobiles getting lollipop and we are waiting ... this is insane :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vicelord_l:
Really loosing patience now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] m4gg0t:
Me too im getting pissed of. I bet we won't get it till the end of the month.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vicelord_l:
We Shall get the update in next financial year!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
Yes When android M released by Google
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
Its like when you are hungry for more than a few hours & then you dont feel like you are hungry any more, same is with me.. waited too long, & now the curiosity is no more..!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Pyae_Sone_Win:
It's unfair for 910G user. I have got SG 910G and really disappointed how Samsung left our G version user. Thinking of selling my note 4 for htc M9.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vicelord_l:
I'm also planning to sell 910g and either but 910f or m9
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pnsdhrn:
Lollipop

Lollipop released for Note 4 Sprint variant.Please see this link

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59246522&postcount=48
[Galaxy Note 4 General] m4gg0t:
But sadly it can't be ported
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
you are very very late.. we all knw that sprint version released couple of days back.. it cant be ported to N910G
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Samsung has disappointed everyone this time. Kind of ignoring its latest flagship ,,
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vicelord_l:
Isn't it possible to use kk bootloader of n910g and lp firmware of 910f ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
from what i have seen, its not released for any note 4 version except for 4 regions exactly . its not even available as ota anymore, strongly believe its the test version being given in ota.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cnn888:
whatever the reason is, delay is delay and this is too much.

for **** sake, who ask them to make a zillion variant of a phone, especially it is a flagship. now they are overwhelmed with s6, s6edge and note 5 design that they have no more person to handle note 4. what a ****in moron Samsung is!

****in unbelievable!!!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jayesh:
Pretty much. i am quite tired of waiting for it to show, enough to dock my note 4 and just use the nexus 6 for now. I will check back after a month to see if it has shown up. Note 4 is a fantastic device, but samsung's tardiess is a touch irritating now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
Come on guys. I've used LP on my Note 3 (for a few days before selling it and getting the Note 4) and on my Nexus 5 for a couple of months. While it had lots of eye candy and pretty smooth, LP5 on the Note 3 used up more RAM and dare I say more battery power compared to KK 442.

Don't get upset. I'd rather get a stable release. Because should there be an issue with the LP5 OTA this thread will be full of whining/groaning about it. Don't believe me? Head over to the Note 3 thread and see what I mean. :)

So, chill out. Let Samsung take a few days more and provide us with an update that works well.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] :
We are waiting for lollipop coz we need kernal for installing awesome custom roms from DR.Keten ji... not for standard LOLLIPOP from Samsung
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
Yes I understand buddy, but even the system kernel also needs to be stable. I positively HATE buggy, unstable software. :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kristech2011:
I have come to know that there are internal issues between Samsung and Qualcomm.....its been heard that samsung has been stealing the qualcomm codes and copyinh them onto their exnyos chipsets.

Due to this i feel that there is a delay for snapdragon versions of note 4 to receive LP5 Update.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
Only AOSP code is used to build the OS and Samsung provides a skin i.e. their much despised/loved TouchWiz as interface enhancements.

If there's an IP issue related to CPU design/architecture then that's a different thing. It may affect the use of Qualcomm chips in future Samsung models. May be that why they have dropped the use of SD 810 in upcoming models claiming they heat up too much?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] badelemental:
Just sent a mail to their support team. Here's the content. Though I am not expecting a reply.

"Hello, Team. Can I know when Note 4 (910G) is going to get Lollipop update. It has been a long time and still we are waiting to get the update. Even Note 3, S4 and S5 got it. Is this the way Samsung treats it flagship smartphone owners ?

Please let us know what exactly is causing this delay. I am a Software Engineer and please provide an valid reason so that I can understand the reason for delay.

A lot of my friends who got Note 4 are now thinking of selling their device because of this treatment. Please get back on track and release updates faster."

Note 4 Support Page Link : http://www.samsung.com/in/support/model/SM-N910GZKEINU#

Their's a link to email their support team (at bottom).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] saj2001ind:
Also would be best to post these on Samsung Indian Facebook and twitter
[Galaxy Note 4 General] badelemental:
Done it but they never listen in FB at least.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] saj2001ind:
But that post will be public and ppl will know how lousy they are and they might loose customers then they might get up their ass and do something
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
They'll just give an official/approved reply that won't tell you much. :)

PS - Just checked, neither the Samsung support people nor the community have answered a single query on Lollipop release dates.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] deohrishikesh7:
There is no exposed for lollipop.. What you will do after lollipop as without exposed is pretty much useless.. I am rueing updating to lollipop as rovo89 hasnt released fix for Samsung touchwiz rom... Yet
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RISHI RAJ:
Hey Dr.Ketan you might help this poor guy here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3048012 I tried but couldn't help much.You are an expert
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
I Asked for lollipop kernel source code for N910G. this is the reply i got

[SAMSUNG OSRC COMMENTS DELIVERY NOTIFICATION]

Dear Customer,

Thank you for your interest in SM-N910G_SEA (Lollipop).

The S/W Ver. of SM-N910G_SEA (Lollipop) is not released on the market, yet.

After the S/W Ver. will be released officially, you can download the source code from the site below: http://opensource.samsung.com.

Thank you.

Sincerely yours,
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
As expected those Samsung guys will not be revealing anything that gives an indication of when they'll release LP5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
oh atleast they are ready with the kernel source
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
Yaa, but until Lollipop is not released, it does not make any difference if the kernel source is ready..:crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
Agree with you. The code is in their repository and will be released only when it's ready.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
Was just wondering, out of so many 910G users across India, Australia & other countries, no one knows any insider of Samsung who can leak new version / kernel source ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Sharp-Razr:
Anybody who does that will lose his job
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
kernel source wont help us much, kernel source of 910F and 910G is same, the thing is we need one single lollipop update which comes with new lollipop bootloader, once we get it we can use any other zipped roms available for 910F
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
That made me laugh bro :D

True!

Hurry up plz Samsung. Everybody's patience is running out now.

I have waited more for lollipop than i waited for the note 4 launch:crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
http://www.samsung.com/in/support/model/SM-N910GZKEINU

samsung has a live support team here!!! start your work guys, what are you waiting for ? :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
lol bala i chat with one of their support reps daily. Wonder if they recognize me as their daily guest by now :p
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
They are clueless when will lollipop be released. just had a chat with them
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
haha, they should give u a badge :p

btw, they have no clue about 5.0 whatsoever , noobs:laugh:

edit:

[MENTION=1686671]pratik_193[/MENTION]

same here, atleast they will feel the pressure ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
These guys don't seem to know anything. They can just read out what's already there on their website.

Why so tight lipped!!!

---------- Post added at 12:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:46 PM ----------

Exactly^^ lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pratik_193:
They Just gave me an Email ID to get in touch with. Send a email guys , lets flood their inbox..

support.dev@samsung.com
[Galaxy Note 4 General] maksharma231:
Cool bro. Mailing them now :D

Update: mail sent