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[Galaxy Note 4 General] xda rocks:
I don't expect Note 4 to be waterproof but at least Water-resistant like in S5. Surely, this one don't seems to be much of Wow factor with nothing other than "Effect Jargon".:crying:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] O_G:
Threads merged with the Forum Editors [SPECS] thread.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] chong67:
Is the phone speaker back firing? I hate that design. Oh man.

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If you lay this flat on the table, will it scratch the glass lens on the back camera?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] akdenizx:
what about ip65 ? dust or water proof ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] chamberc:
Neither. It's not even water resistant. It's like the S4 or Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Ather:
http://atherakber.us/ifa-2014-samsung-officially-announces-galaxy-note-4-galaxy-note-edge/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nick2k:
bummer. i was hoping for water resist and better speakers (front facing). :crying: the display is nice though.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Deleted member 5963088:
Why did they downgraded usb 3.0 to 2.0 though :confused: ram still the same and no water resist
[Galaxy Note 4 General] artorelis:
I'm not obsessed with water-resistance. I expected a BIGGER battery (4000mAh), slightly bigger screen (5.9inch), stereo speakers (similar to HTC ONE). Those features are more ESSENTIAL to me than... water resistance.... ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] flype:
¿USB 3.0?:crying:

¿IP67?:crying:

¿Wireless charging Qi?:confused::confused::confused:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cbutters:
My take on the Note 4 Specs:

USB 3.0 missing

I have to be honest, I never really used the USB 3.0, my guess is most people didn't either. I can understand this move, and it might be a big deal for some people. For me personally, 802.11AC was quick enough that I didn't really have to use a cable at all when doing file / video transfers. As long as the MMC on the Note 4 can fully saturate the USB 2.0 bus,it will still be quite zippy. It is a bummer, but really doesn't affect me personally.

Screen:

I personally have really sharp eyes, and I can still see the negative affects of pentile even at the 1080P resolution. (If you have a Note 3, Try looking at a website with black background and red text with medium to high brightness, and you will probably be able to see it too.)

I welcome the 1440P resolution, and am excited to see if I can still see the pentile pixels or not. Normally Usage doesn't matter much, but if you read comics, or view a lot of images on your device, the pentile can STILL be distracting on the Note 3, so props to Note 4 for this.

WaterProofing

Another disappointment... however, really doesn't affect me. I've never dropped or water damaged any of my phones ever, and wouldn't shower or take it out in the rain even if it was waterproofed. Might be nice to use it in the tub if I got a call though once again, I probably wouldn't do it anyways.

Wireless Charging

I'm sure they will support this with a special back... or a 3rd party sticker as well. I wish samsung would just include this, instead of charging an additional 60 dollar back cover that doesn't fit with most cases..... but nothing lost and nothing gained here.

CPU/RAM

I have to admit, I really wanted 4GB and 64-Bit...

However, you can't really complain about performance... have you seen benchmarks of the 805 vs. the 800?

Basically you are looking at 20% boost in cpu performance in clock speed alone, but the GPU Adreno 420 should be 40-60% faster than on the Note 3, while being 20% more power efficient. It even blows the Snapdragon 801 found in the S5 out of the water.

To sum it up, looking forward to the display and performance improvements, I won't necessarily miss the waterproofing or usb 3.0, but I think they should have been there, especially since the device is a bit thicker. Assuming I can sell my Note 3 for a decent price, I will be upgrading.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] B-Mobile:
T-Mobile Note 4 Variant

now that T-Mobile has purchased A-Block 700mhz LTE spectrum (Band 12) from Verizon i'm interested in verify if the Note 4 and the Note 4 Edge will support Band 12 if not there is no reason to *Jump* from the Note 3 hopefully the UnCarrier 7.0 initiative on Sept 10th will help to clear that up can't find anything on GSMArena, or Phone Arena that confirms Band 12 for this device
[Galaxy Note 4 General] daraj:
Android Authority was reporting it to have 4GB ram.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kaibosh99:
I cannot believe that sites like androidpolice and androidcentral don't have the sack to call Samsung out for being cowardly, lazy, and for pretty much ruining Christmas. The Note 4 stinks. It honestly isn't a step up from a Note 2, there is *nothing* about it that even remotely interests me. I guess I have to see what becomes of the next gen Moto X or something Sony comes out with for my next phone, because the Note series seems to have skidded to a halt.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AxAtAx:
This is truly bad news, what a complete let down. I will NOT spend $750 on a device that is the same as the one I have. Faster cpu...whoa...not worth the extra $$.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Same size screen but larger overall dimensions and heavier...wow Samsung your going backwards.

Other than the camera upgrade and 64 GB int storage they have screwed up big time.

Note 4 = epic failure.

If I was Samsung I'd be embarrassed to release something like this.

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
Being s4 user, all I wished for note 4 was better screen and better camera, both are there, adding the better battery life, oooh, can't wait to get my note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Strategist:
Yeah people have some unrealistic expectations, as if Samsung could offer huge improvement in every single category and still keep the price reasonable.

I remember similar complaints about the Note 2 and 3 and probably every flagship ever made. The fact is they are bound to disappoint some people in some category.

I have made a list of the improvements in the Note 4 in the other thread and I think it's pretty impressive.

The improvements in the screen, camera and processor alone would be sufficient to make it a significant upgrade.

Beyond that you have faster charging, the improved S-pen, multiple microphones, metal rim, fingerprint scanner and most people would care about at least some of these.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skills2015:
Interesting comment sir. I'm a little torn right now, still weighing all the options or lack thereof.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kersh:
Oh, they can as google can offer the almost the same hardware and charge 300€ less.

They could have added IP68 and more battery but they didn't want to, because of greed o whatever reason, but they could and have the same price.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xda rocks:
I see, Improvement for the sake of upgrade do not make the device a worthy one. Honestly I feel, Note 2 to Note 3 or S3 to S4 worth as an upgrade to its siblings in all aspects. But its not the case in S5 and Note 4. I see it to be much of an extension / another flavour of Note 3 (Camera Edition) but surely not a upgrade in multiple aspects. Of course, its just my view...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tones2:
So I assume the micro-sd can take a 128 GB card even though it lists only up to 64 GB - right? If not, complete deal breaker.

I hate the back facing speaker as well, which could also be a deal breaker. Finally, with quardiple the pixels and a faster CPU and only a modest battery increase, you gotta believe that the battery life is ging to be significantly worse, but we'll see.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jeraldbro:
Unless the bootloader can be unlocked I wont be buying a Samsung!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mlock420:
What does a locked bootloader do? And will tmobile lock there's ? I Was Planning On Using Jump To Get it...Please help?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sirobelec:
Well, if you intend to buy it from AT&T, I've got some really bad news for you... :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mlock420:
I tried reading on locked bootloader but it was confusing. ..what are a downside to a locked bootloader. ...and will tmobile lock theirs
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Soryuu:
The back facing speaker would be annoying.

Most flagships this year can take up to 128GB even if the official spec sheets say otherwise.

They're using metal, slightly more weight is expected.

It's 8 grams heavier. You could barely feel that difference. I don't think that constitutes as an 'epic failure' but I didn't realise that 8 grams made such a difference
[Galaxy Note 4 General] iToolboxx:
Is it just me or does the note 4 look not as wide as the note 3? The video I was looking at, I believe engadget. The note 4 looked like a s5 but a bigger screen/taller?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] RCJ89:
It is marginally narrower.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jamice4u:
The screen uses less battery life and it has a higher resolution. From what I read the screens uses 33% less battery life. Remember bigger screen means less battery life. It also has a faster processor and a 2560 X 1440 screen. The phone has a finger print reader and a uv sensor which accounts for the extra weight.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Epic failure in general...not just the extra 8 grams of course. But same size screen and bigger overall...that's not acceptable.

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jelly'K:
The design and the build quality are amazing !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kikisp:
just wanted to say something to guys that say why no 4gb of ram..well if i am not mistaken to use 4 gb of ram you need 64 bit processor?805 isnt 64 bits?

also if rumors are true octa version of note 4 processor is 64 bit?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] eSiemens:
I really wanted to like this. Love the upgrade in CPU and screen & s-pen resolution, but with wireless charging not standard and the downgrade to USB 2.0, I don't know what to do. I still love my note 1, prefer it to my note 3 in some respects, skipped the note 2 because it really wasn't much of an upgrade. No waterproofing, no 64-bit processor...guess I will just have to pass on this
[Galaxy Note 4 General] earthworm1102:
OK then, the way they upgrade, I'll wait on Note 5 ,just to make sure I get more upgrade on my Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] prodigiez:
not worth upgrade..coming from S5 prime..same hardware specs except OIS..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] randy2:
Email samsung upper management level product team

I have a Note 3 and I was so upset I emailed samsung 3rd level product team, here is the address if anyone else wants to email them. The note 4 is more of a Note 3s or 3.5 its not a Note 4 in anyway but the name.

Here is the address to samsung

president@sta.samsung.com
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shinkinrui:
Is there any official confirmation of which regions are getting the Exynos processors? I've been searching but I haven't found anything definitive.

I'm still rocking my Note 2, it's been by far my favorite phone. I feel that part of the winning package is having the Exynos processor.

It's also important to me that my next phone have T-Mobile US' band 12. I'm in one of the areas that will eventually offer this.

If we get the Snapdragon model, I'm out. If we get Exynos AND Band 12, I'm in.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tholos:
GPS

I take it, it does have GPS support.

It's missing from the specs
[Galaxy Note 4 General] alesa1988:
Considering I've been holding on to a semi-functional SGS4 awaiting the new note, I will definitely upgrade as soon as it's available.... But alas it's true I did expect 4GB of RAM, and this is the first I hear of it using 2.0 USB. Not such big of a deal for me as I'm still far from having or wanting a USB 3.0 PCIe card... My case's airflow is restricted enough! It'd have been a nice extra though...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mlock420:
I just wish it had some sort of dust and dirt resistance but hey they'll make a case for that
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shabbypenguin:
Its the same cry every single time. "OMG why isnt this new flagship that much better than the one i have in my hands right now!!"

They target people who do 2 year upgrades, because those are the people they are trying to capture, the ones who are going to have a contract upgrade or just finished financing their last device. If your biggest complaint is there isnt enough of a reason for you to drop $700+ dollars on a new phone because it isnt different enough than the $700+ dollar one you got last year then id say you must not have a whole lot of problems in your life.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] vinit.the.one:
What is the use of a UV sensor?

And what exactly is 2.5D glass?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] letdatbassknock:
Wouldn't purchase it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] adampa1006:
I really wanted 5.9 screen and super thin bezels, but still have captivate buttons. I'm really disappointed on the screen size mainly. That frame with small G3 like bezels could do 5.9. Alas, it will be a great upgrade from my current Note 2 and I will be getting it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BX2MD:
I 2 was expecting it to be water proof it just looks like the note 3 with better features under the hood

In no way am I complaining but I am also coming from a note 2 but also thinking of the edge
[Galaxy Note 4 General] liquidguru:
Like many I was hoping for waterproofing, as I spend a lot of time outside and by the sea.

However, thinking about it, I should think the S-Pen makes water and dust proofing very difficult.

sent from somewhere
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Orical:
It's comical, we want premium -oh it's heavier now that's stupid. We want a better screen - it's not bigger that's stupid, they failed.

ShabbyPenguin is right and you All know Samsung is gonna try to stay with a close enough look to the model from the previous year, the Note 3 is still better that most of the crap coming out today.

The Galaxy Edge is almost the mirror image in specs to the Note 4's, with obvious minor changes if you need something different. It's amazing how the haters run out in droves like this release was a personal attack directed right at them, rush right out there and save face on your local forum.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sirobelec:
Wait until the devs confirm about T-mobile, the Note 3 wasn't locked.

Locked bootloader means a nightmare for rooting, and also means no AOSP ROMs.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] DrSlump76:
I like a lot the new metal frame, but i don't understand why they did move the speaker on the back side of the phone.. and the lack of usb3.0... why?, i use it a lot on my note 3 and it's truly faster than usb2.

The screen and the mcu doesn't impress me, maybe the new amoled screen will be more durable than the old one? My note 3 screen, after few months of use, starts to show some shadows on notify bar, and less color uniformity on white.

I would have expected a 64bit processor and 4GB of ram on this note 4, but seems like we'll have to wait for the next note :)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] LouRock:
Meh... :rolleyes:

IMHO, If your coming from the Note 3 then the Note 4 is simply just NOT worth the upgrade....

Save your money folks, there's always next year and I can guarantee whatever is out then will be worth your $$money$$ ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tft:
would it be worthy upgrade if it had a 12 inch screen? there is only so much they can keep adding to the phone.. gee, it isn't mandatory you buy every single upgrade every year.. i typically skip a generation for this reason, and i actually come out winning... so every 20 months i get subsidized phone and sell the old one which means i get the new one for practically free..

it has bigger resolution, Quad HD (1440x2560) for crying out loud. almost bigger than 99% of phones out there and bigger resolution than most peoples computer monitor! a metal frame, better rear camera 16mp vs 13mp, better front camera 3.7mp vs 2mp, rear UV light sensor, finger print scanner, heart rate sensor, has multiple mics (3) to help with noise canceling, and various other tweaks/improvements.

the phone has better hardware than phones still not schedule to come out until much later. i just wish there was a smaller version, so i guess i have to wait for the S6 next year..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Super Chimp:
There is a limit to both how large you can make a screen and how thin you can make the bezels without compromising the durability of the phone. Would you rather have a phone durable phone or a larger screen?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] @home:
Does this device have the crazy Knox feature & the stupid region lock crap of the Note 3?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] hashcheck:
Locked boot loader?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] eddhard:
I felt that it wasn't worth upgrading to the note 3 from note to but I will probably get a note 4. I have always leapfrogged on devices. People have far too large expectations on upgrades and always buy into the pre release hype.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] dajumper:
What a comments! First plastic! Now they did a little metallic in it and it's again not good!ok some things I was expecting to like water resistance but common guys it can not always the things that everybody want
[Galaxy Note 4 General] georgekg:
I'm using Samsung phone (gift from a friend), but not Samsung's fan at all. One thing I don't understand is the people's expectations. One thing is your (or mine) expectation and other thing is what they (all manufacturers; not just Samsung) offer. You can love it or hate it, buy it or not and that's the whole story. You can ask of them to put this or that on the next device, but if they think that something isn't profitable they won't put it. Users usualy don't look the big picture. They are just looking for what they want and not is it profitable, what can manufacturer offer in next generation etc. Also they must leave something for next model. If they put all newest things in Note 4, what will left for Note 5? For next 2 years there wouldn't be that much improvements in hardware (generally) and Note 5 in compare to Note 4 (crowded with all new things) won't be improved at all. Just cosmetics... Most of this forum's "note 4 haters" will buy it as soon as it became available, I'm prety sure, and that is the main reason why I don't understand above comments.

One more thing - can anyone of you, who are expecting 64bit processor tell me what it'll mean to you as a user? 64bit Android and apps maybe? More RAM that can be addressed? Nope! What is the benefit of the 64bit processor at all, do you really know? Even on a PC, average user still can't see benefit of the 64bit architecture even it is present since Windows XP, and you want it on Android? Silly... Note 4 is at my oppinion just overpriced peace of hardware. But for those who want to impress other people with the sum of money they spent for a peace of plastic, they even don't know how to use it, this is the best buy!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tholos:
Note 4 features

does the Note 4 have eye control as in GS4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Zanr Zij:
I want a good full HD screen + water resistant version of Note 4 :).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Geeks Empire:
i

Can anyone write more detail about Note4 camera?

doesn it have same ISOCELL lens as S5

size of lens & etc

?

Thanks

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
It is not just about "64bit" it is about new ARMv8 CPU, have you heard about Cortex A57 and A53 ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] georgekg:
A57 and A53 brings lower power consumption in applications where 64-bit computing is already established, such as servers and network infrastructure. Benefit for end user when new processor is implemented in Note 4? As far as I can see both processors brings just marketing benefit for mobile phones, not real improvements in overall speed or battery life.

Main power consumer is your screen and your OS (in this case Android), not your processor. If they put new processor right now (when you haven't such apps or OS that can use a benefit of 64-bit computing - read "lower power consumption"), that wouldn't signifincantly change battery life or speed of your device in general, so I don't see the point of asking Samsung to put newest peace of hardware, when you can't see the benefit of it... In such case you'll just need to pay much more for that and device is already overpriced
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
First of all as I have alredy told you Cortex A57 and A53 aren't just for the benefit of the 64 bit, they are an improvement over A15 and A7 in performance and other stuff. So yes, without a 64 bit OS there will be a difference with normal A15 and A7.

And second, Android L which is supposed to be released very soon supports 64 bit processors, and like most of the apps are made in JAVA there is no need to update them to run them in 64bits.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] georgekg:
Significant difference you can see (as an end user) only with 64-bit OS and apps, and only in power consumption. I know that 32-bit apps can smoothly run on 64-bit processor, but there wouldn't be any benefits. What other improvements that are shown on a paper you can see as an end user? In overall (REAL everyday use) device performance you and me and anyone as an end user, wouldn't see almost nothing. It is just marketing for average end user.

Can you really see any difference between 8 MP camera and 16 MP? That is also just marketing. How many of us realy put those pictures taken with ones phone to the paper? There (on the paper) wouldn't be any difference if you take the picture with 8 or 16 MP. With 16MP you can print street billboard! Do you realy need it? Your full HD computer monitor or TV have just a little bit over 2 MP, so who REALLY need 16MP camera? Marketing. In this case with processors also just marketing, nothing else for average user. And most of people who will bought Note 4 will be much less then average users. Most of them will bought Note 4 just to show off... That is what I'm pointing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Petrik17:
The only improvement I was waiting for was water resistance
[Galaxy Note 4 General] georgekg:
Agree. That would be something that end user really have bennefit of [emoji5]
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
Guys there is no concrete proof that 5433 has a53 cores or 64 bit. Let's wait for someone like [MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] to make it clear, though he has commented on it before
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
It's not.. It's A15. Andrei have mentioned that multiple times.

Just think logically. If 5250, 5260, 5410, 5420, 5430 is A15/A7 with ARMv7, how do you think 5433 will be A57-based?

All Exynos 5xxx are A15/A7. A57 will be a brand new series like Exynos6.

5433 should be very similar to 5430 with upgraded GPU.

EDIT: Has AndreiLux joined Anandtech as an editor??
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bala_gamer:
Precisely my point, most online sites providing rubbish data regarding a53 cores, samsung will never release any major SOC before announcement/marketing. Either way 5433 with mali 760 will be an absolute monster, no doubt.

I too wonder the same about andrei, may be he did ;)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Yea, true.

I think it could be a Mali 760 MP8/MP10 to match Adreno 420.

http://gpucpu.com/arm-mali-t760-gpu-details/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AndreiLux:
I've been pretty clear on the matter for months, it's not 64bit.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] thekoRngear:
UHD video recording as we know was limited to 5 minutes (officially) on the Note 3 LTE. Is this limitation still there in Note 4? I thought the newer Socs could record without such time limit now.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
I think it is not related to the power of the SOC but to the memory.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] aulwes:
ANT+

Is ANT+ connectivity supported?

I just learned today that the Note 4 will monitor your blood oxygen level. NICE!

Now it needs to monitor blood sugar levels too. :)

I'm serious it would be nice to have a dozen health devices all built into a phone. These technologies are nice for people who are sick but also for athletes.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Lodix:
Yes, it is.