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[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
All, Don't assume from my frustration with Newsmy, and the lack of time I've had for personal projects lately to mean that xdAuto is dead. There are other people working on the project, not just me.

Also, I still have two of these units in my vehicles, and as indicated, I'm not going to pull them out and replace them. They work perfectly fine, and if I get some time & feel like adding some features, this is likely the platform I would work on.

However, I don't see any long term future with this (or really any of the current models) if you care about software advancements and tweaking. The hardware in this or any of the current gen devices should be sufficient to last for several years. However, you have at least two levels of software support to deal with/through. First and foremost is the underlying chip architecture of the 'android' side of the device (in our case RockChip). Newsmy has no real control over whether Rockchip supports anything higher than KitKat on the RK3188 (The fact that Joying has a Lollipop unit is interesting, but I don't know how well their units run - some RK3188 tablets have Lollipop, but I know they are running older kernels and lack HW video acceleration). To my knowledge, RockChip has abandoned the RK3188 in favor of their newer chips. I think it's unlikely we see Lollipop (much less Marshmallow, or the new N release) on these devices. If we do, they are likely to be crippled/hampered ports that lack functionality.

The second big issue is the MCU level. When I mentioned in my previous post about other manufacturers being ahead of Newsmy, this is the area I'm talking about. We all have access to some of the technical specs of the underlying chips in our devices. They are capable of so much more than what Newsmy has leveraged. Unfortunately, we have to go through the MCU to control any of it. Theoretically we could reverse engineer the entire MCU level, but let's be honest. There are only a couple of us who were working on this project, and none of us has time to do that kind of work. Newsmy won't share the MCU code, and without it, we just have wonderfully potential devices with no real way of realizing it.

So, I'll keep mine for now. I'll work on xdAuto when I get time (if that ever happens again), and will continue to host all the software on our site for as long as needed. What I'm very unlikely to do is buy another unit (I'm wanting a larger display - was thinking of modding one of the 10.1 units - or even the joying) to fit my dash. But I don't want to be locked down on the software front again. When/If I decide to engage a new audio project, I'll likely try to utilize a Nexus device (I have a nexus 9 sitting here not getting much use :)) tied to some Arduino or other USB modules to provide AM/FM, ODBII, etc.
[Android Head-Units] sinnedone:
Hmmm

So even if someone told them that they have a business proposition for them that would offer FREE software development that would put them ahead of the competition AND in turn sell more units they would not give up the code?
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
+1 to all of this. [MENTION=5498033]Summer[/MENTION] you really need to work with us, so we can work with you.

The "Development Stagnation" is the reason why I've held off buying a NR series AND recommending to anyone else to purchase EITHER series of your head unit.
[Android Head-Units] paperWastage:
this way, you get to pay and upgrade to NU/NR3001 version 2 with 6.0 marshmallow after a few years...

thanks

I updated all of the apps, installed Google + Google Now, mic works now

I guess I should flash xdAuto... need to get a USB type A -> USB type A wire, and probably a 9-16V power adapter if I don't want to flash in the car
[Android Head-Units] AlTB:
Just to sort it out:

Really great that you put so much energy into further development. I was not criticizing xdAuto!!!

I was talking about that RDS must be offered by the manufacturer Newsmy. Even DAB/DAB+ Tuner is allready state of the art.

Instead of this, they made nearly no functional progress with the CarPad 3...
[Android Head-Units] octavecat:
Which Parrot did you get? I'll get the same one if you can provide the link or model. The stock mic that comes with the NR3001 is ****.
[Android Head-Units] robertusIT:
Microfono per Parrot CK3000 / CK3100 / CK3300 / CK3500 https://www.amazon.it/dp/B00N5498ZG/ref=cm_sw_r_other_awd_UGa8wb5MGJ0P8

[MENTION=483619]zaph0d[/MENTION]

Thanks for your point of view and i want that you know that me and other people are able to pay 20 30 40$ to have new features and a better OS.

Think about if you want.

Thanks anyway for your work and you are right when you say that a Nexus device is better, but for phone calls is a little problem to connect phone into ta let and make call.

I choose newsmy only for xdauto.

I think that there isn't any Android Radio better than it. Others haven't any custom rom but carjoying is better... Have some features like mirror link in USB that newsmy can't, with it, you can use your phone and is a day the OS will be too old, you use your phone that is always up to date and you don't needed change devices in you car

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Android Head-Units] octavecat:
Again, seconding [MENTION=5277736]robertusIT[/MENTION] — the android platform is rich because of strong developer support. Unlike iOS we are paying for extensions that make life great like SoundAbout, various launchers, extensions, etc. I know it's not a fulltime job for you [MENTION=391948]Zaphod Beeblebrox[/MENTION] but I am guessing everyone in this thead would pay for dot releases or updates, bugfixes, etc. I bought this unit because of xdAuto.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
I appreciate the thought, but for me this has never been about money. I make a very good living (which is why I'm always so busy :)) I love to code, and I enjoy Android & In-car media projects. When time is available, I'll work on it. And I'll gladly share anything I come up with.

One thing about open source projects like this is that you need a lot of people working on things. When you do this as a hobby, and for fun, you tend to want to focus on features that you have a particular need or interest in. For example, I could care less about bluetooth connectivity, but [MENTION=6472486]leonkernan[/MENTION] does. He's done great work on that section because it interests him.

More people need to join our adventure :)
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
I saw one guy who fitted a Raspberry Pi 2 and the official LCD into his car and used the GPIO to connect it to the factory radio controls. Part of me thinks that could be quite fun.

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I heard another manufacturer (not newsmy) say that it was harder for them to develop some of these things since China doesn't use some of these standards. If they don't have a partner company in another country they can't test them.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Ok, not that I really have any time for this .... but....

ICR Board : http://i-carus.com/shop/

Jetson TK1: http://www.nvidia.com/object/jetson-tk1-embedded-dev-kit.html

Gut my NU5002 and re-use the screen :)
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
I should get an LVDS to HDMI converter... You know, just in case :)
[Android Head-Units] sinnedone:
Lol

The main reason I bought a NU5002 was to gut the screen and modify the enclosure.

I want to replace the oem navigation system in my car and unfortunately where the screen goes there is no space behind.

So the idea of just a screen with the guts somewhere else or modified is very interesting to me. :D
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
That does sound like fun
[Android Head-Units] leonkernan:
Here's the link I was thinking of

https://www.reddit.com/r/raspberry_pi/comments/46zkx5/spider_raspberry_pi_carputer/?sort=new
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
The source code is sitting in git hub. Nothing is stopping anyone from making changes or updating anything. I'm going to do another update for usbmodeswitch since a new version is out. Just have to keep the manual configs that we have; at the same time test the new changes for hauweui 3g dongles.

I started fooling around with using a Bluetooth OBD2 and canbus reader available in the MCU program. Just trying to figure out how to get doors, radar and climate control programs to get the OBD2 data. Since it's not directly linked through the mcu, trying to figure it out. If I can get it working. Then it will be easy to add different vehicles if you know the canbus messages to unlock doors, doors open etc.

I also had most of the code done to get the radio tuner chip working in LW and SW mode. Which I was going to setup the NOAA weather radio frequencies within the radio application. The silabs tuner radio chip is excellent. Better than any other Android radio out there.

We see if the vehicles antenna are good enough to pick up the 162000mhz channels.

It would be nice to see more people hacking away at the source code. Just not the same four people. We don't have the mcu code. But that does not mean we can hack away and add a bunch of stuff and fun things.

This radio is still the best unit out there for pure fun and the most source code. There is even the source code to the kernel.

The real problem is there needs to be a larger number of people hacking, destroying their radios and having fun.

Who was the person that decrypted some of the bonovo applications. Maybe he could do the same thing for the latest Newsmy ROM and then we could update the Bluetooth firmware by xdauto?
[Android Head-Units] dafthouse:
Can install the custom rom in NR5002 the carpad 3? in cant connect via usb to pc. Is dangerous trought the internal sd
[Android Head-Units] x5nder:
^ it's not clear to me -- does 1.3.9 also work on the EX-NU3001, or only on NR? If no, what is the latest version that runs on NU3001?
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
Dear friends,

I want to ask a question about an android box. I am currently using nu3001. However, I could not fit the screen nicely to the dash. So I am thinking of a device like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/191753341893

This is an android device which seems to work and fit well (Since it designed for my vehicle). The only drawback seems to be the screen resolution(800x600).

-Dou you know if this device(or devices similar to this) is rootable or has custom roms?

-Will I be able to customize like we do for carpad?

-Is there an XDA developers page dedicated to these variations of devices?
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Not sure which that is, but the specs are not the latest (dual core). Just curious if you've checked out fascias such as http://s.aliexpress.com/eI32uAzQ
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
Yes, that is what I currently use. The sizes do not match. I somehow found a frame that fits but even with that, the dash does not look original and elegant.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Gotcha. Can't help though. After much deliberation on a second head unit I still went with the Newsmy. I can report that my Connects2 steering wheel interface with CTCHINAHULEAD lead works out of the box on the Newsmy. A slight delay compared to feeding direct resistive controls, but not bad at all.
[Android Head-Units] txb142:
Hello. As mentioned earlier I have a carpad NR3001 installed in a Buick Lucerne. My wife is having issues seeing the screen due to how high she elevates the driver's seat, hand on steering wheel, steering wheel gear shifter, etc. I have a rear camera monitor mounted in a A/C vent, and I wanted to see if I could get composite video out of the carpad to hook up to the monitor instead.

According to the wiki the LCD driver is a TW8836. The diagram in the chips documentation shows that Y out is pin #4 of the 128 Pin LQFP. It also says that pin 4 is Y3/V1 too, and that the pinout is preliminary/subject to change.

Has anyone looked into getting composite out of the NR3001? I didn't see any hardware pics of this version on the wiki. I could take a look in a few days when I get a chance but how would I go about finding and verifying where or even if the carpad has such video signals (easily) available?

I know that I could try screen mirroring in the meanwhile to my Galaxy S3, but video out would be a much better solution.

PS: I got steering wheel controls working with my install. Didn't realize you had to map them out first, hehe.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
I was curious about the stereo microphone plug on the NR3001. I my last order I asked for an extra microphone so I could take it apart, however Newsmy shipped me a microphone for the NU instead. It was so easy to take apart, I opened up both. They are identical inside, no use is made of the third conductor in the "stereo" microphone. Each seems to be an electret condensor mic with two SMT components soldered across the terminals along with ground and positive wire. So next question is is there any use made of the third conductor in the NR unit itself? There do seem to be a couple of op-amps on the bluetooth board from the pics of the NR5002, that are not shown in the bluetooth chip manufactures "typical application" schematic... Could a true stereo mic be used and would it help?

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B0Gg3f2YkVmuV09WSmJIVDh5OTQ/view?usp=sharing
[Android Head-Units] bradobrado:
CAN bus hacking

I would love to help with this. I would like to figure out how to add functionality to control the HU brightness based on the ambient light sensor on my dash, which I assume puts its values on the CAN bus. Have you (or anyone else) tried using the CAN connections on the HU itself? My NR3001 came with these wires missing from the harness. I am currently using a CRUX SOOGM-15 interface to make the SWC work in my 2004 Silverado pickup. This uses the CAN data to make resistance type outputs that work as inputs to the NR3001. I would like to figure out how to utilize the CAN data directly, and use it instead of the 3rd party interface.

Can you give me a hint on where to start with these ideas? I have a bluetooth CAN reader, which works fine with Torque. I would love to learn of an android sniffer utility to see if I can reliably catch the CAN data we are interested in. Where are you seeing these functions "available in the MCU program"?

I agree. And I would like to become part of the solution to that.

THANK YOU to you and the others here that have given so much to the rest of us.

Brad
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
Sigh..I think I have just had an expensive catastrophe, and bricked my Carpad 3. It's stuck at the xdAuto boot screen....and doesn't move from there. ADB and Android Tool don't see it. Neither does rkbatchtool. I can't figure out a way to flash ANYTHING on it at this point. It doesn't appear that this unit will boot from an external SD, and I have no way of putting it into recovery (if recovery even works at this point).

Any suggestions before I toss it out? :(

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The 5 finger method got me back into TWRP!
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Apparently beat me by a few seconds...Hi

Five fingers trick? Five fingers on screen while powering up?
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
Put five fingers on the screen immediately after the boot logo.
[Android Head-Units] Zelig:
Finally placed an order for an NU-5002.

Was going to wait for the next generation of hardware (whenever that may be), but my 5 year old WinCE 5.0 headunit, which has had BT issues for awhile, is now regularly, but intermittently, turning itself off so decided to bite the bullet.

Placed my order on AliExpress - first time ever using it. It now says remaining Processing Time 1 Day 14 Hours etc. What is the go with that ? Do I have extend the processing time ? Haven't heard anything from Summer. Does my order get cancelled if I do nothing ?

Would appreciate any input from those more experienced in dealing with AliExpress.
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
Migration from NU3001 to NR5002

Hello carpad lovers,

I have ordered a new NR5002. I will migrate from NU3001 to NR5002. I want everything to be migrated to the new device including configs etc. I have TWRP and xdauto installed in NU3001.

Is there a roadmap that you may suggest to do this migration?

Thank you.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
I was giving you the suggestion. But then I saw you posted the solution yourself and added the edit at the top. Glad you got it sorted.
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Titanium backup should do the trick

Backup user apps on the old device, copy the TitaniumBackup folder from the old device to the new one, restore using Titanium backup
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
Then, the steps are likely as follows, right?

1-On NU3001, Install titanium backup and make a backup folder.

2-Using USB male to male cable, I need to somehow install xdauto image (TWRP, and xdauto) on N5002.

3-Setup titanium backup.

4-Copy backup folder from NU3001 to NR5002.

5-Restore from the backup.

If yes, is there a manual for installing xdauto on NR5002 by also enabling the rest of the internal memory (of 32GB) usable?
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
I think there is a guide on the wiki somewhere
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
Especially I will need to make the rest of the unused space available for android. Do you or anybody know how to do this?
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Tutorial is here http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Newsmy_CarPad/Tutorials#Increase_.2Fdata_Partition_Size

But I'm not sure what the values need to be for the NR series to use all 32GB or space.
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
It would be very nice having a tutorial about enlarging current internal space or mounting the unmounted space
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
Hello,

after installing xdAuto, how big the internal disc space is?
[Android Head-Units] wayfactory:
Does anybody knows if there is any possibility of showing in the radio screen the output for one application and via HDMI get the output of another application? I mean, showing two different things on each screen. Thanks.
[Android Head-Units] sinnedone:
This is very good info, glad you were quoted above. This should be added to the wiki if it isn't already. (I didn't see it there but didn't look to hard either. :p)
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Newsmy_CarPad/Tutorials#Extend_KeyEditor

It probably needs a bit more info but it's there.
[Android Head-Units] sinnedone:
Ah yes very nice. Thank you Xanix.
[Android Head-Units] adririeju:
hello friends speak to you from Spain, I feel my English is so bad, aver if you can help me, I quite like this radio, I would like to recommend me if you already worth buying this NU3001, or already go for the NR3001 Newsmy Carpad .

That things improve? worth buying the new ¿?

that price comes off better in aliexpress¿?
[Android Head-Units] uh2:
I appreciate the assist.
[Android Head-Units] red13dotnet:
Hello all, I am back (READ:NOT DEAD). Got a job again (Much better one), moved to a new place, got remarried, life basically straightened out, etc. I also finally have a car again that I can install my NU3001 into (FINALLY!!!).

Hate that I vanished for so long, I have been keeping up with some developments here and with the xdAuto project from the shadows. If I've still got priviliges on the github page I hope to start taking a look at the current codebase soon. Just flashed the newest release to try out.

Anyway, just wanted to say hello and let you all know I'm still kicking.
[Android Head-Units] ElfinJNoty:
The fella's have been busy and otherwise a little burnt out on poking at things. So any new or returning contributors are much appreciated.
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Yay! Welcome back! Glad to hear you got things sorted out.
[Android Head-Units] wacko37:
Good to hear you are ok and your life has turned around for the better!
[Android Head-Units] Arnifix:
Has anyone encountered any issue with the nu3001 writing to nand flash rather than an sd card? For some reason, while it can see the sd card, my unit won't allow me to migrate apps over via the normal google method, and using a third party app to do this results in a 4gb nand flash partition filling up rather than the sd card. This is really frustrating as it means I can only carry a tiny portion of my music collection around, so if anyone has any thoughts, that would be great. I'm running xdauto n-1.
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
See if this will help

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Newsmy_CarPad/Tutorials#Redirect_Internal_SD_to_External_SD
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
Wow... I feel lazy...
[Android Head-Units] Skybet:
Somehow I shuld be luckier as I have a 2009 Alfa 159, with resistive Wheel Controls and (should-be) separate wires.

Being a 260hp 3.2 liter 4 wheel drive Alfa Romeo beast I really want to keep it, but the Alfa Connect is such crap.....

I'll investigate if anyone connected a double din aftermarket unit to Alfa 159 and come back.... soon I hope.....
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
Just found the same problem you had. I just spent the last 20 minutes deleting all the duplicate contacts I had in my Gmail address book that syncing with this unit caused. The horror!!!!

Hopefully when I get back into the car and it re-connects to the H/U this doesn't happen again. Otherwise, this is going to be a major issue that needs sorting ASAP.
[Android Head-Units] renedis:
Summer xu

2014-11-20 16:13:22

it is 5.1 output

renedis

2014-11-20 14:12:18

Is the HDMI output on the android box with 5.1 sound or stereo?

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Hope she's right about that.. That could potentially save me money and not buy an audio DSP. But buy an HDMI < RCA output converter to get front + rear + sub RCA output.

Waiting on my ordered mini HDMI to HDMI cable to test it out. Hopefully I can set some settings in ViPER4Android (like "all-stereo" output).
[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
You're talking about Exclusive Car Audio?
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
No I buy more from allien http://carnaviplayer.com/

He normally sell S150 android units or KGl huifei

But as I know him from clubtouareg forums I asked about nu3001 and he told me that is not a factory that use already but he get units for other customers before from newsmy factory (he is on China too). so he get unit for me, test there for a full day before ship and soldered the decoder and correct harness for my car

Also he provide me faceplate, 2din adapter, rear camera especial for my car, Wireless adapter for camera and radio removal keys for stock unit

So I will receive all included in one package
[Android Head-Units] spoks:
Where did you get that frame. I feel that I will need a frame too :confused:
[Android Head-Units] Killa-Bee:
Thanks for the Update
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
Just tried looking for the HDMI < RCA converter because that sounds like a better idea then what I have hooked up behind my H/U to my amps and such. I can't find anything on Google. Perhaps I'm using the wrong search terms? Can you throw up a link about what you're talking about?

Thanks.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Just a little software update:

I'm making some progress getting a full build on AOKP for this device. I haven't tried to flash yet as I'm still working out some device tree quirks and haven't quite got a full build yet.

However, I'd really like to hear from [MENTION=6095496]red13dotnet[/MENTION] about what he had to do to the kernel to make it boot. I successfully built the kernel from the source, but based on his earlier posts, I suspect it will bootloop.

As I clean things up, I'm posting the changes to my github: https://github.com/Zaphod-Beeblebrox

Hopefully by the end of the weekend I'll have a full tree that anyone can download and build.

One thing I'll likely want to change is the included google apps. It's customary for custom roms not to include Gapps so as not to anger the great Google machine. We should be able to flash any of the various Gapps packages that are out there though.

Which brings me to a question: I've not tried to do any flashing/updating on this device yet. Is the current method compatible with Gapps packages (ie, a flashable zip), or do we need to get TWRP working on this device?