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[Galaxy Note 4 General] aukhan:
A lot of members here have been cursing about water resistance missing on this device.

*Le me tell you first of all this is a NOTE series and the main reason behind this phone being a non water resistance device is because it has the Spen so the engineering is a bit more complicated for them.

* Removable back-cover is another reason why they have not made this device a non water resistance

I am honestly disappointed with the Home button (H/W Key) they should have utilized that for the screen space as LGg3 did.

I am not happy about the OS they should have come up with Android L

50% in 30mins. Not bad. I feel this could be a gimmick :( (Few misconceptions there. It charges to 50% in half an hour, that does not mean 100% in an hour)

Removing USB 3.0 and 128GB Micro SD support is a shame for Samsung.

For all the disdain Samsung shows signs of improvement and better with every new gadget they are refining the equipment and programming an ever increasing amount. Its not immense changes yet with Android L I could see Samsung really making a huge change to toucwiz it looks considerably more insignificant with every new gadget. The Galaxy S6 could wind up being a gadget tech nerds may really need if Samsung plays their cards right.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] deliriousbb:
Having a Note 2 and 3. Its a major upgrade for people with Note 2, but a very minor one for Note 3.

Wishlist checklist completed:

- QHD screen 2560 x 1440 (negligible to the naked eye)

- 16mp OIS back camera, 3.7mp front wide camera

- fingerprint scanner (for easier access and better security)

- heartrate monitor (for sports junkies)

- SPen pressure sensitivity up from 1024 to 2048

- more powerful and efficient SoC CPU

- Premium case (aluminum and faux leather)

Checlist missed:

- water resistance (IPXX anything would have been nice)

- even larger battery (3300-3500 mAh)

- Larger screen 5.8 - 6" (with same size phone; edge to edge display)

- 20mp camera with OIS (since Sony has a 20mp cam and LG has a laser tracking and OIS also)

- x64 bit processor for Android L use (future upgrade-ability)

- 4gb RAM (Android L use again)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] shabbypenguin:
the 30 mins isnt anything new with the right charger, qualcomm fast charging has been on a number of devices. and how exactly would they have gone with android l? a version of android that hasnt been released or even officially announced.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] barondebxl:
I think samsung nailed this Note 4 on every single point.

Why need water resistance on a note device? It would make it a little bulkier and you might run into some issues with the s pen. Water resistance is nice but not a necessity IMO.

5.7 inches is perfect. Why increase the display size and not get the best benefit of fthe QHD display. Why have less ppi? Makes no sense to me.

64 bit processors are coming in 2015, they will make the Note 5. Seems that ppl want every thing now. Android L does not require 64 bit.

I dont know man, to me the addition of a 16 MP camera with OIS, QHD display, the very nice metal all around the edges, the improved front facing camera, the S805 make this a beastly phone. I would argue that its a worthy upgrade over the Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xManMythLegend:
Can you name one ? I thought water made the wacom screen act nuts.

Theres a micro sd slot why wouldn't it support 128 ?

Im dissapointed by no waterproof and not a larger screen. USB 2.0 is upsetting considering I just upgraded to 3.0 Motherboard and numerous 3.0 cables and a hub for large video transfers.

I wonder if quick charge is some smoke and mirrors. Like some kind of algorithm that takes into account super battery saver and represents battery time not capacity.

I like it and feel its an upgrade even to the Note 3...but where the Note 3 felt like an uncompromised phone and attempt...the Note 4 feels like they stopped 90% of the way.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] aukhan:
They say it supports only upto 64 Gig this is a myth.

GSM Arena also claims Memory	Card slot	microSD, up to 64 GB
[Galaxy Note 4 General] frans23:
is Exynos 5433 a 64 bits CPU
[Galaxy Note 4 General] kersh:
Fujitsu Limited

-ARROWS Tab QH55/M （personal use）, Q584/H (business use）(Announced on Oct 8th, 2013)

Windows8.1-based 10.1-inch water/dust proof tablets. The splash proof Wacom pen is especially useful when the LCD surface is wet and finger touch is useless.

-ARROWS Tab QH77/M （personal use）, Q704/H (business use）(Announced on Oct 8th, 2013)

Windows8.1-based 12.5-inch high spec water proof tablet with the splash proof Wacom pen.

The probably didn't waterproof because engineering a new waterproof pen was expensive or a little bulky. Well, I can tell then than if they don't want to make that, they should launch a Galaxy S with 6" inch and let the people decide, waterproof with wacom or without. I can assure you that then, the note will disappear in one year because for most of the people wacom is just useless and they buy the note just for the screen size.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xda rocks:
Complicated, But not impossible...

I would happily shell out some more money extra to have my phone as water-resistant. I feel this defeats the purpose of switching to Note 4. I would expect my phone to be "Super phone" when it is bought at such a premium price.

Removable back cover shouldn't be a problem as this is the case in S5 too.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xManMythLegend:
The Note 4 has what 5 new mic holes now ? maybe waterresisting wasn't working in testing.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jreuschl:
It should support it being a Snapdragon 805 device, but I'll also be disappointed if the Sprint version doesn't support carrier aggregation on Spark.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] art90262:
Im extremely dissapointed in the lack of improvements to this years note....hopefully samsung will learn the hard way that we expect more from them.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] adampa1006:
Why are the bezels so big? I really love the look of the G3 and was really hoping and expecting them to go same size frame as the Note 3, but minimum bezels and 5.9 inch screen size. Also disappointed about no water resistance.

I'm just shocked at big bezels, same screen size, no water resistance. Although I probably will be getting it because not many other options in the big screen area (Verizon)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] OzzieJacks:
The placement of the speaker on the back is the deal breaker for me. I love the side speaker on my Note 3. Skype, watching movies or when using the phone as an alarm in the morning I never have to worry that I covered up the speaker.

I am also disappointed that they didn't push the quality of the front facing camera a little more. At least 5MP would have been nice. I find that I use the front camera almost as much as the rear camera.

I always wish that Samsung would put back the FM radio in their flagship phones but I didn't expect that to happen. It's a nice thing to have when working out and your data connection is low.

I guess I will be waiting for the Note 5 or try one of the off brands in 2015.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bipoler:
None. .. of the note series were water proof..................... c arry on
[Galaxy Note 4 General] skivnit:
Lol you guys are a hard to please crowd, you gotta understand no phone will be perfect for everyone hence the many available options. Now saying that note 4 is not an upgrade is exaggerated. You got the latest soc with the highest clock you got metal frame you got new spen functions qhd. A whole bunch of new sensors.. What do you expect? A toaster and à blender inside? I like the note edge for the new form factor. Hopefully we will get exynos here although no dev support
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mjlewis0102:
I agree with you on this. I never took my phone out in the rain or took a dip in the pool with it. I do like the fact that they took the usb back down to size. Honestly I was excited about it at first and used it all the time. Now I just use 2.0 charger. I cant tell a difference when transfering file via usb 3.0 vs regular 2.0.(plus it cuts off your data when in 3.0 transfer mode)

I do, however, think the camera is a lot better. 16 MP with OIS (optical image stabilization). Also 3.7 MP on the front with wide angle capture and claims to take in 60% more light. I will love to test this out. All this displayed on a beautiful QHD display. When I see people comment "nothing's changed" I cringe.

Finally I do agree that I would love to have seen 64 bit and 4 GB of RAM. But you cant win them all. I'm just waiting for that "Pre-Order" Button
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Thin_Bezel:
Do you realize USB 3.0 doesn't charge any faster than USB 2.0? The only benefit of USB 3.0 is faster data transfer to your computer. Everyone complaining that Samsung could have increased the charging speed with USB 3.0 without knowing what USB 3.0 is useful for.

Do you want bigger battery size and the same battery life or the same battery size and better battery life? mAh is not everything. Samsung says the battery life is 7.5% better. 7.5% of 3200 is around 250, so all users who are complaining that the battery should have been 3500, you know the math.

Just wanted to clarify these two issues because everyone is listing them as negative things when in fact they are not.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] pham818:
Water resistance = ugly device. kinda glad they didnt do it.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cyb3rphr33k:
It looks more like a software upgrade than a hardware upgrade.

They still can't make a better battery or add a camera button.

UPSM and spen goodies could be added with a firmware upgrade and/or another rom as others have ported note3 spen features on note2.

I don't think i will replace my note3 with 4, not on day one that is.

I will wait for a few months again to see real reviews both on 4 and edge.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sonhy:
definitely not a worthy upgrade from a note 3, very disappointing.

i would have been sold on just the weakest of waterproofing. Its si nice to not have to worry while your around wet environments, rainy days, etc. im sure no one is asking for diving spec waterproofing, just above splash proof.

also would have been nice to have a small cpu for always on voice commands.

The note series use to be the bench mark everyone followed but that's clearly not the case anymore. shame.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Kri$:
I was expecting water resistance, because S5 and watches are WR. In Poland in preorder you geat Gear 2 Neo watch to Samsung S5 or Samsung Alpha. I suppose that in preoder they'll give WR Gear 2 Neo to Note 4 also.

So why don't they make N4 water resistance? They give me watch, which I can use in pool or in rain (running), but I have to buy cover for my phone or use plastic bag to protect it from water?

Of course there are differences IN PLUS for example

- QHD and ppi

- camera with OIS

- new S-Pen with better sensivity (tilt, speed)

Doesn't matter to me:

- heart-rate sensor

- faster charging battery (30min 0-50%)

- 3 microphones

- metal frame

- 2.5D glass

But IN MINUS

- usb 2.0 instead of 3.0 (step backwards)

- no water resistance (previous model S5 has it)
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sonyfan12:
Only sony camera sensor

its very big shortcoming

Galaxy Alpha will be much better in color reproduction and (perhaps) detailing. And Lenovo Vibe Z2 Pro will be much better in color reproduction and detailing because isocell sensor.

Samsung shared with Lenovo instead of what to put in nout4. If a small production, it would have made at least half of the devices such cameras, instead of giving Lenovo
[Galaxy Note 4 General] xperiaforme:
-WATER RESISTANCE, OMG!!!

-OCTOBER? END OF OCTOBER??? So frustrating it makes me want to get Iphone 6

-only 3000 mah battery on Edge? COME ON!!!

-USB 2.0., was that really neccessary...

-how will impact protection cases be made for the Edge?

-come to think of it, the speaker thing is not so great either
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Does the note 4 and note edge have a 64bit CPU?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rodrigorajao:
Nope. It's a Snapdragon 805 or Exynos 5433 (region-dependent). It's the best SoC available today this site of Tegra K1, but still not 64-bit.

Samsung blew this device HARD!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sonyfan12:
lol. exynos 5433 is 64bit arm v8 processor (cortex a57)

note4 have it
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
So do they or dont they have it? Both phones?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] rodrigorajao:
Agree 100% on USB 2 vs 3 and I wish more people knew that it makes no difference as far as charging speed goes.

As far as battery life, manufacturer claims are bull**** most of the time. The Note 4 is made of bog standard parts we've seen in other phones before it, nothing special there to justify tremendous energy preservation. Software optimization can only go so far in maximizing battery life.

I'll take a bigger, heavier battery that gives me more battery life over a thin weak one any day.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
no waterproofing...no big deal,never lost a phone because it got wet from rain or snow

no 64 bit...who cares, there is nothing that even can take advantage of that now

no 4 gigs of ram...most phones run great on 2 gigs, so who needs 4 at this point

no usb 3.0...not a deal breaker by any means

no front firing speakers... now THAT could be a deal breaker, as the sound will probably be poor again

skipped the note 3, and not sure that note 4 will be a big deal

I do like what they did with their software, but until you actually play with it, its hard to tell what this phone will be like

great camera improvements, and the metal frame is a welcome addition

Not sure if I will dump my M8 for it though, plus waiting until the end of October to release was a bad move, IMO..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Thin_Bezel:
I also like a bigger battery but it isn't such a big deal like everyone is making it. Take the Galaxy S5 and S5 LTE-A as examples. The LTE-A has the exact same battery size as the original Galaxy S5 yet it has the same battery life even though it has a much higher resolution screen and Snapdragon 805 chipset. And this has been proved by many tech sites and YouTube reviewers. Samsung may do a lot of dumb things but the software, camera and battery have always been top notch for me.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
does it have a 64bit processor ?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bluetoothless:
S5 has iP67 rating and it didn't impact appearance.

S5 ACTIVE was ruggedized and that changed its appearance
[Galaxy Note 4 General] mortuus82:
Insane no water protection considering its high price.. i stay with my S5 then.. no way i buy a phone this much and its not safe for water and dust.. bah.. all samsungs fault :eek:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] renoturx:
Vincent Nguyen from slashgear stated "Samsung has in fact switched back to USB 2.0 for the Note 4, telling me that people simply weren't familiar enough with the faster variant to make it worthwhile including."
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ks-man:
I don't understand. Why is water protection so important? I've had smartphones for 6 years and never had an issue with needing water protection. I use my phone in the rain, when I get out of the shower and really never have given water protection any thoughts. I haven't ever dropped it in a toilet, jumped in a pool or anything else like that.

I'm not saying it isn't important for some people but just trying to understand why those people find it so important. Is it just a safety thing in case you do drop it in the toilet (and do you think that is likely), do you get pushed in a pool with your clothes on as a prank? Is there some other reason why water protection is a make or break feature?

Again, I'm just trying to figure out why so many people on this thread are so upset about no water protection. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sirobelec:
From time to time we forget that here on XDA we're not normal users.

We do know more than regular users about such stuff, but I guess we're not the majority.

Like, everyone would like a phone with his/her own desired screen size and resolution, quad/octa core 64 bit extremely energy effective processor, huge battery, great OIS camera capable of shooting in all possible situations, root out of the box, waterproofing, etc. etc.

Not gonna happen for pure business reasons: OEMs need to produce phones and sell them to remain in business. A device that I described won't be replaceable for some 5 years, which is way too long. :D

Back on the Note 4 topic.

We might hate how bubbly/laggy TouchWiz is, but the normal user will be happy, and, for a change, the new features with the S-Pen and the camera might be actually useable. Mark me, I typically f**king hate TouchWiz.

My guess is that the devs are just waiting to get their paws on the .tar.md5 of that device so they can start porting it, because other than the front camera triggered by the heart-rate sensor (and the three extra microphones :D), the Note 3 has the hardware to import ALL of the Note 4 TouchWiz little tricks. :D :D :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fletch33:
i agree mostly with what you are saying and have had same experiences with never losing a phone to water going back to my car phone in my Jeep with no top back in 1990 :)

i do think though that it would have been nice to have and i honestly expected to see it and was going to be another incentive for me to want the 4 over my 3. i have kids and we are at the pool 3-4 times a week and i use my parents S5 to take pictures which i could get something else but i also am just around the pool often and so is my phone.

i have used my N3 in the shower and its been sprayed with a hose numerous times over the past year never causing an issue.

i thought the water resistant coating was the new standard starting with the S5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] anirudhks:
its not easy to design wateproof with spen being housed , as its removed and inserted frequently if you make a rubber seal for it its too difficult to remove and reinsert and keep it firmly locked.. you would not sit in water n take notes...
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fletch33:
i would have agreed 1+ years ago but with the S5 having a USB 3 post that has a charger sliding in and out daily for charging and still being water resistant i feel technology wise this would have not been too difficult to solve.

not a deal killer for me as said but would have been nice to have
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bluetoothless:
If Samsung can make 3.5 mm headphone port water resistant and its lining is conductive....how hard would it be to make the S-Pen port the same??? No conductivity needed just a sensor indicating removed or inserted.

Many Note users have outdoor activities that place their devices at risk. One less worry.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SrAdama:
I'm judging this device coming from a Note II..

Plus:

+ Metal frame.. finally. I hate the plastic feel of the previous Notes. There's something to metal that just makes it feel more premium.

+ Improved front and back camera.

+ 32GB minimum storage

+ Improved S-Pen functionality (esp. compared to Note II!)

However..

the downsides:

- The cover. I don't mind pleather, I like it better than real leather. But I don't like the pattern, Note 3 looked better. I would have preferred a cover with the feel and design of the S5.

- No water resistance.. not a deal breaker.. but far too many times do I have to hide my phone under my jacket, cover it with my hands or just skip taking it out at all because of rain. We're closing in on that kind of weather in my country now so a water-resistant phone would have been nice!

- QHD-display. this is just overkill. It wasn't necessary. QHD-display for a 8" tablet like Tab S/Pro is ok, but on a 5.7" phone? Too much and it will just slow down the overall performance and battery life. I would have swapped it for Full HD-display instead and improved the speed and battery even further.. this brings me to my next point.

- Lag, I'm on a 2 year old phone and by now I wished Samsung could have been able to make a Note that is lag-free. I skipped Note 3 because of the lag and now there is still lag on Note 4, judging by the several videos I saw from IFA Berlin.. very disappointed.

Quad/Octa-core.. is it really necessary? Why don't they improve the individual cores. As far as I know most applications can't make use of several cores..? I guess it looks good on paper having eight cores..

Will I upgrade? Depends on the price and what the iPhone 6 can offer, but I'm not expecting much from Apple. I just want a phone without lag!

Edit: No, I want a Galaxy Note without lag more specifically!!!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sirobelec:
Phones without lag - the Nexus line and high-end HTCs and Motorolas. F**k the iPhone, rumors and leaks claim to a monstrosity of a Nexus this year. :D

Not sure if there will be a HTC One Max 2, there's rumors about it as well, and if there is - there you'll have another option.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SrAdama:
Everyone keeps saying the Nexus phones are lag-free but I've tried them and they do lag..? Can't speak for HTC and Motorola though. But.. I don't want iPhone, HTC, Motorola or Nexus.. I want a lag-free Note!
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dan1909:
Out of all the android phones I've used (and seen videos of) the Nexus phones have always had the least lag. This seems to be the general opinion of people who have used various phones.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] chamberc:
I've had the S3, S4, and S5, and have never experienced lag of any kind. What kind of lag is supposedly present?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] leetmode:
To the people who say who cares about water resistance, thats fine that YOU do not need it, but you also do not represent the WHOLE market.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] SrAdama:
For an example when switching between apps, delay in opening new apps (that are not running in the background)... just day to day use and they don't keep up with the speed I would like to.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dan1909:
Has anyone actually said that nobody should buy it because it's not water resistant?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
It just doesnt have any lag because it hasnt any preinstalled apps like samsung does. There are dozens of services that run in the background from samsung and for me they are all unnecessary! Samsung needs a new Touchwiz with no lag ,their phones are excellent but that touchwiz is just touchcrap for me.

I maybe wait for the bigger screen iPhone 6 and compare it to Note 4. It was always easier and more comfortable calling and texting through iOS!

Android community needs a next Generatio HTC ONE M8 in my opinion with 64bit cpu and android L
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Dan1909:
That's exactly thepoint that I was getting at :).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
my M8 has all sorts of pre installed apps, and has zero lag, so that doesn't determine "lag"..

Plus, judging a phones performance or ANY aspect of a cell phone, based on some videos you might have seen is just silly; lets wait until some actually members get it and report on their experience..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Im pretty sure we cant compare the backgrounds process's of samsung with HTC's only samsung Allshare function has more than 4 background process running and samsung has many function like the all share .
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sirobelec:
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[Galaxy Note 4 General] SrAdama:
When I say lag.. I'm talking about the speed, so forgive me for any mistake with technical words. What I basically mean is that I want a Note that will open apps and switch between them instantly.. no delay whatsoever. I have not been able to experience this on any phone.. not even the Nexus 5.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] awanshrestha:
Ok here is the thing.

Samsung galaxy note 3 and samsung galaxy note 4 are somewhat of the same design.After all the major thing is that we all put the cover in our phone.So what I want to say is that, one cannot differentiate between two phones when the cover is on. But, note 4 is a quality phone though!