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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
I hear ya about the 16 gb, but at least there's expandable memory. Although it's a head scratcher why it's limited to 64 gb instead of 128 gb like its larger counterpart.

I only bring up the RAM issue because it was shown here between two LG G3 variants where the only difference is the RAM (3gb VS 2gb):

LG G3: 2GB vs 3GB RAM performance showdown [video] - Mobile Geeks

http://www.mobilegeeks.com/lg-g3-2gb-vs-3gb-ram-performance-showdown-video/

And 3 gb RAM clearly outperformed the lesser model, but no mention was made about battery life as a result.

Either way, I'm thinking the Z3 Compact is my top choice at the moment. I'm also eying the Xiaomi Mi4, but it's a little big for my tastes.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fritsprive:
not running for the store

Actually I am a very happy Z1 compact owner, and with 2Gb of Ram, and very similar specs, i will not be running to upgrade.

As I am sure very soon a fully functional 4k and 120fps mod will come to our Z1c 4.4.4 (pleaaassse are you reading this Olokos? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2767005 ), I don't see the need to spend another 400+ dollar on this one.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
I'm still considering the Z1C myself if I can get one for the right price. Availability was an issue otherwise I would have gotten one a while ago. For new buyers where money isn't an issue, however, the clear winner is the Z3C.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] javierdsv:
With this new phone at sight, I can expect the Z1 Compact price to drop down a little.

The specifications difference are minimal. But I can still expect it to be superior to any iPhone release they will do the next week.

Also, the design... did you see that white bezel? That is exactly what I wanted from the Z1 Compact, I guess I will be buying it after I sell my Z1 Compact.

I feel it more like a stylish upgrade,

- Bigger screen but lower dimensions? Sold

- Lighter? Sold

- More CPU Speed? Sold

- Better battery? Are you kidding me? It was already great on the Z1 Compact. Definitely sold.

On the other hand, several sites are stating it has a Display with 319 ppi pixel density vs the 342 ppi pixel density from the Z1 Compact. Was this ever intended or are these just unofficial specs ?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fritsprive:
lower ppi is correct

Bigger screen with same specs (HD 720p) will always lead to lower ppi. But everything above 300ppi is very good viewable.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] javierdsv:
I was seeing a wrong resolution somehow. That obviously makes sense, guess they could've raised the resolution, but for phone of its size it is more than enough anyway.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Rekoil:
It won't be, the Z1C can rock 128gb as well if you want to. As long as there's no software limitation the microSDXC specification (used in both Z1C and Z3C) has an upper limit of 2TB, but cards of that density don't exist yet obviously, but if we're still running microSD cards at that time, I bet they will work in the Z1C.

Yes, but the screen is still physically larger, 4.3" vs 4.6". I'm saying 4.3" is the perfect size, and if they had kept the 4.3" size and made the body smaller, that would have been awesome. Also, that's a seriously thin phone for its specs. Has there been any word yet on battery capacity?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fritsprive:
Word is 2600mA, so that would be a big + comparing 2300mA of Z1c
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Rekoil:
Big plus? My Z1C easily lasts me 2 days, that's enough. But hey, I'm not gonna complain about more! Just saying it's not a necessary improvement, I'd have rather they made the phone physically smaller.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] fritsprive:
Don't get me wrong, battery life of Z1c is excellent, like you i can do 2 days with one charge, but more is better :p.

But from your posts I understand you prefer smaller and thinner for a succesor.

I am just plain happy that Sony (for now) is the only company that understands that making a midrange midspec overpriced mini and call it S5 mini etcétera doesn't do the trick. Customers want to really have a choice and buy a full spec top model with a smaller footprint.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Rekoil:
Indeed, I thought that was the idea with the "Compact" series, while everyone else is busy increasing screen sizes, go the other way and come out victorious. Except 4.6" is basically back to the norm (4.7" is pretty common at least). Still, it's a brilliant looking phone. Heres hoping they don't continue the trend upwards.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
The biggest selling point for me is the smaller size. Ideally, I'd like the phone to be smaller still, but considering the bombardment of phablets in today's market, I'll take what I can get and am more than happy to settle for the Z3C's 4.6" screen on a 4.3" body. If anything, the bezels could be smaller still and the screen larger, but my favorite form factor will always be the HTC Desire/Nexus One. I think if designed properly, it could have had a decent screen size as well.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] SirRobin78:
Very nice device in faszination colours :D

Two questions: what material the frame is build? hope it is not plastic :(

Can anyone at IFA have a look if there is the Apps to SD Option on the new devices? 16 GB only...this is a bad point.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] javierdsv:
It is made of polycarbonate, so yes, Plastic.

But sure, the back of the phone is no longer plastic, but glass.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] SirRobin78:
So will it feel premium like the z1 compact? what do you think?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Geeks Empire:
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in term of upgrading z3c is better than z3

Z3 looks good because z2 looks good too... ;)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] steanne:
i wanna know about the smartcover mentioned in the video. what are the chances it'll fit the z1c, too?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
Can't wait for the first reviews to come out. Pretty much everyone is gushing over the Z3C as they did for its predecessor, the Z1 Compact.

Why are other phone makers not realizing this? There's a market for regular sized phones. Not everyone wants a gigantic phablet!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] javierdsv:
Why? Because of the iPhone, this thing is like an iPhone without all the privative stuff, without overpriced promises and without all the apple fan boys. Even now, we get more style, a premium small package and more power than them. That's why xD.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] td101:
Here is the white paper:

http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/xperia-z3-compact-white-paper/

I want to upgrade my xperia SX. I also was hoping for a smaller housing but i will give it a try. Want to have 4G:)

Since i am living in China i want to buy D5833. Has LTE-Band 40 and TDD for China Mobile 4G

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Matteo Mazzu:
I'm a Nexus 4 and finally I belive I've found its successor! Was thinking of buying the z1c, but the 4,6 display is more in my need.. Now lets wait for some reviews! Is it known when it should be sold?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] td101:
It's said "end of Q3". So selling should start end of this month

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Rekoil:
I LOVE that Sony publishes white papers for their products, so good.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Bäcker:
This would have resulted in lower battery capacity and probably lower specs.

You need a minimum body size to house the battery and components. The display might cover a huge area, but not a huge volume. So increasing screen size is a lot easier than decreasing body size.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Rekoil:
I understand this, which is why I'm not very impressed with the Z3 Compact. I would have preferred they cut down on the battery, as it stands they have increased its capacity by 13% from the Z1 Compact, in which case it stands to reason they could have made the battery roughly 13% smaller and kept the same charge as the Z1 Compact.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] spinz78:
It's not listed on the sony mobile indian site...I wonder if India isnot getting this
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Cronis:
Say looks like it supports band 17 LTE according to the white sheet... Means we get a Z3c that fully supports AT&T? If it does I might have just found my next phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] coolmalayalee:
Even I was suspecting the same. It was initially listed in the sony mobile indian site and was removed after few minutes. However, some of the news paper reports today from timesofindia and indian express state that both Z3 and Z3C will be released in India in a function in New Delhi by the end of this month as confirmed by the sources from Sony. Even I'm waiting for it and will be hugely disappointed if it doesn't get released. Given that Z1C was available in India there is no reason to believe that Z3C will not come.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Rogi_tcz:
I placed pre-order yesterday for Mint version (with free SmartBand). :D As I found that should be available still in September for Europe (I'm from Poland) and not only.

I hope to get it soon.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] BoredDude:
I really, really want this phone, i'm with a razr i and i believe i will adore the update, however the price will really be what would stop me.

Hope it's not too expensive!
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] shotgunj:
In the white paper I noticed that under Main Screen - Colours, they wrote TFT. In the Z1C white paper they state TFT-IPS. Is that a downgrade from one phone to another or just missing information?

here's the Z1C white paper link: http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/whitepapers/sony-xperia-z1-compact-white-paper/
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] td101:
Those are in German, but got some pictures ;)

http://www.teltarif.de/sony-xperia-z3-compact-test-hands-on/news/56919.html

http://www.techstage.de/test/Hands-on-Sony-Xperia-Z3-Compact-2345021.html

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gst28:
Given the price of the Z1 Compact (AU$389 in Australia) would this be a good buy over the Z3 Compact? My only concern with the Z1 is the mention of some common quality issues such as cracked screens and not being waterproof/water damage. I guess it is too early to know if the Z3 will be an improvement in this department. I would like to use this as an cycling computer/navigation device at times without having to worry about it getting wet if it suddenly rains.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Bäcker:
TFT is just the general principle which can be used by several technologies like TN, PVA, IPS, AMOLED. Most (better) Smartphones use IPS or AMOLED nowadays.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Frontier3:
I am very curious about this as well, has anyone been able to tell of this phone fully supports the AT&T LTE bands?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Galactic2:
I'm absolutely loving the look and feel of this phone.

The only thing i'd want more of is internal storage. This might be my next and first Sony Android phone, i'd dump my Galaxy S5 for this. Let's hope Sony releases this quickly.

I wonder what the DEV support on XDA will be (if any) for this phone?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dsteppa:
The second link is about the Tablet, not phone.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cheskote:
The only thing that made me avoid Z1C was that the only way to wake up the device were the physical buttons.

I know Sony has promised to make double tap work to wake Z2. Will it work on Z3C?

I'm totally serious about this, won't buy without sweep to wake, double tap or something similar.

For me, having to use a button on the side each time I want to check my mobile is a deal breaker.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vitalogy79:
I, too, would like to know if there's a s2w or t2w feature on this new compact as well.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] danghuong18:
I Love Sony Xperia Z3 Compact

I love this phone

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How is owning this phone?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dsteppa:
Using a different Kernel I could do all that on my Xperia Z, what's stopping you from doing the same?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] StephenMilone:
i hope it comes to verizon. could be my moto x replacement, the new X is too big for my taste.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] JHadley:
I looked through the frequencies and bands that clove.co.uk listed for the Z3C on their site, and it appears to support all of the AT&T GMS, HSPA+, and LTE bands. I'm tempted to order it through them now, but I'll try to restrain myself for a few more weeks until it's actually available. There's a good chance it'll be a little less expensive over here if made available on the US Sony site.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
Agreed, the new X looks hideous. What made the original such a hit was its pocketability and ease of one-handed use in a market flooded with phablets. Now there's nothing distinguishing it from the others.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Jliax:
Ill upgrade from the Z1C to this one.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sango2:
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It's definitely a yes. The D5803 is the one to look for. It will work in Canada too like Rogers/Fido since they use the identical if not similar bands to AT&T as well.

I was looking at Clove too but will decide to wait. Probably go with the Ebay route and get it from seller nerver-msrp which would be cheaper than getting it from the Sony store.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] geronimoid:
Looks interesting :)

Any confirmation on tap2wake yet? And does anyone know if the z3c will keep the glove mode function?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Cronis:
Well since it looks like the new Moto X got huge I think I will go with the Z3c, especially since it supports all the AT&T bands. Seriously why must all phones become phablets?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] stnly:
Who is this seller nerver-msrp? I've heard that name float around a lot in regards to Xperia phones.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Galactic2:
Yes. Give us details...!? lol [MENTION=4688473]Sango2[/MENTION]
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Nilloooo:
i must say i loved compact z1 at first sight i just regret buying experia sp before the z1 came but this one is gone replace my sp now

just don't know what color yet
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Sango2:
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never-msrp is a seller on Ebay.

There is a thread about the seller in the Z2 forums.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2777998
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] illmac:
Well this is most likely going to be my next phone. was holding out until the iphone 6 reveal before deciding but the leaks haven't instilled me with confidence. I'm 99% settled that the z3c in white or mint (hard to decide!).

Reading the thread, seems like the D5803 will be the model to get. It'll work with At&t LTE bands as well as Philippines globe (important to me cuz I travel there quite a bit).

Does never-msrp deliver on release dates? I leave for the PI Oct 13 and from what I've read, the phone is slated to release in the UK on Sept 26. I assume this will be roughly the same date for other places as well.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] x10isrooted:
awesome device. but i hope that it is gorilla glas or something similar that will not be affected by microscratches. i have goriila glas3 now on my samsung and it looks like new after cleaning it a bit with micro fibre.

im looking forward to it. does any one know if the current xperias have or this one will have a dual membran mic like htc one m7/8? its really great for recording in loud environments.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] gs3user70:
The white paper states that facebook and twitter are preinstalled apps on the z3 compact. That annoys me a bit:mad:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sturmtruppler:
Since Android 4.4.2 they are NOT installed as system apps on my ZL. If it's the same with the Z3c you can easily remove them. :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] atmos929:
Manufacturers may start to realize... Samsung is releasing Galaxy Alpha which is 4.7" with very nice specs, although it lacks expandable memory (a complete no go for me), way too small battery (1860mAH) and it has knox (which is the main reason why I am moving away from Samsung). I find it sad that they focused on creating a device to directly compete with the iPhone 6 instead of creating a device that is great for users looking for smaller screens... but well, that's how business works for them and I am just being romantic :P.

I wished Z3C had 3GB RAM would've been perfect, but then again, we are probably just fine with 2GB and the tradeoff between batt consumption and performance was worth it.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
Yup, agreed. Can't wait to try out the Z3C, it can't get here soon enough!

You're right, I think the consensus is that the reduced RAM will help with battery life, but in a perfect world, I would have preferred the extra gig, plus a bigger battery (3000+ mAh), but I'll be more than happy to settle for the current specs.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] endlesstrail:
I think what would make the Z3 series perfect is wireless charging. That way, I wouldn't have to touch the cover doors for the ports and risk them getting loose. :p
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dsteppa:
What's the difference in using a dock or wireless charging? I've been using my Xperia Z with a dock for almost 1.8 years and the covers are still perfect!

TBH I don't get this wireless charging hype.

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[Xperia Z3 Compact General] endlesstrail:
A dock works with a specific device. A wireless charging pad would work with any and future device which also supports the same standard. My idea of a wireless charging pad is probably the evolution of the usb wall plug, if you will. Any phone nowadays can use any usb wall plug, as long as the charge cable plugs has a usb connector.

At the end of the day, I think wireless charging is nice to have, but not a deal breaker for me.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Dsteppa:
Yeah, but the thing also is that (when it comes to using 1 wireless pad for multiple devices) is that when there is an updated version, you still have to buy a new one. Especially now when wireless charging is still in beta.

Sent from my C6603
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] bilboa1:
In my experience wireless charging kinda sucks. have to position the phones pretty well (which is annoying), then it charges slowly, consumes more power.

The dock is easy to use (inserts quickly), no flaps, charges fast, etc.

Heck I even prefer USB to wireless charging most of the time (not in the xperias because of the flap, but in flapless devices ;) no fiddling around and charges fast..
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] shahulvm:
Does Z3C have tap to wake? Havent seen anyone mention of it.

Folks, I do know power button is there and it is not that hard to reach, but the simplicity of tap to wake is a welcome to any devices :)
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vitalogy79:
Yes, it has been confirmed that it's there.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Frontier3:
http://blog.gsmarena.com/apple-iphone-6-vs-samsung-galaxy-alpha-vs-sony-xperia-z3-compact/

Has anyone seen that review? It lists iphone 6 and galaxy alpha as having LTE-Advanced but not the z3 compact. From the other stuff I've read it seemed that the z3c had as many LTE bands as the other two phones. Does anyone know exactly what LTE-Advanced is? Does this mean the z3c is going to have slower internet than the other two?
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cheskote:
Can you quote the source of the information?

I've been searching the answer but never found information about Z3C yet.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] bilboa1:
LTEA supports multi carrier, larger radio bandwith, mimo with more antennas etc. Its closer to wimax in some aspects.

Dont think itll be widespread carrier side and customer side (because femto etc) before a couple of years.

I guess only the newest qcom chipset has it and the xperias have the generation just before (like the sgs5)

Cool to have but meh.

Z4 and hypothetical z4c or z5c will certainly have it

See also http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_Advanced
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vitalogy79:
In one of the hands on videos on YouTube, the guy was going through the menus and in one of the screens there was a "Tap to wake-up" option in settings>display. If I can find the video again, I'll post a link.

I ordered my z3c after watching that video because it's the main question I had about the device too. I had a z1c and that was my biggest gripe about it. I know you can do custom kernels to greet t2w, but I'm not into rooting and stuff.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cheskote:
Totally agree with you. Not buying unless tap 2 wake works.

I it has to be a feature of the original ROM, not rooting the mobile and void the guarantee from the first day.

It would be great if you can post the video :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vitalogy79:
Just found it.

At around the 1:48 mark. Search in YouTube for ANDROIDPITCOM and scroll down to his [Sony Xperia Z3 Compact Hands On] video.

Sorry for the lazy link. I apparently don't have a post count high enough to embed a video in my response.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] cheskote:
Awesome! Now I can buy it :D

The link to the video: http://youtu.be/SxkKrPWIz7g?t=1m47s
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] sxtester:
Here is another proof T2W exists by means of a picture of the manual on areamobile.de (sorry, but I'm not yet allowed to post links as yet it seems).

Goto picture 7, enlarge and read... "Waking up the screen... to enable Tab to Wake...". So, it should work.

Now, what is that second slot under the same flap where the SIM resides (picture #21)?:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] shahulvm:
Awesome, for sure I would be buying it. Unfortunately, Sony Singapore has not told a word about the launch. Are there any online stores that are likely to sell the Z3 Compact in Green Mint color.

Clove, Amazon and Expansys dont list that color :crying:
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Corsten:
I did buy Green version with CDON -company, but their wont ship outside of nordic countries.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] shahulvm:
If unlocked, then you can buy one for me :D
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] macklobell:
Does anyone know if the notification light is the same thin light bar as in previous versions or a small green light? There has been no mention or demonstration of it in the past few weeks...
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vitalogy79:
I've watched several hands-on videos of the new z3c and the notification light seems to have been moved to the upper left-hand corner of the device.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Adiyel:
Problem with that, is that the SoC, the camera, and the other hardware like the speakers won't be smaller. Decreasing the width and height dimensions even smaller sounds like a nice idea, but the only issue with that is that's the only superficial thing that would've changed (likely, it wouldn't get any thinner, and with it being smaller, it's getting closer to the shape of a box :laugh:). With the Z3C, we get a bigger screen, a bigger battery, a brighter screen (bigger pixels = more light transmission), stereo speakers, and a thinner body.

To each his own, but this phone is all around WIN for me. I'll be getting one in January or February
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] boojay:
I'm probably getting one at the end of this month, especially after the price drop announced today. $500 USD, shipping included, is a pretty decent pricepoint for this bad boy.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Firov:
I'm curious, is there a video that shows the sound quality from the stereo front face speakers in comparison to, say, a Z2 or an HTC One M7? Or just a video that does a decent job of demonstrating the audio quality?

I've looked around at some of the first look videos and none really demonstrate the integrated speakers.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] banjker:
DT2W is the feature I can't live without on my Nexus 4 so hopefully there will be a kernel dev for this device that will implement it. Having it in the stock kernel would be the best since dealing with custom kernels can sometimes be a pain due to bugs.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] vitalogy79:
T2W was discussed and confirmed present in the z3c on Page 8 of this thread.
[Xperia Z3 Compact General] Rogi_tcz:
First shipments in Europe start at 26th September. 2 weeks waiting. :D