yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Accessories] simple1i:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56140585 - there are other alternatives other then the Pebble watch such as the Casio Bluetooth watch. The XDA supported app for it has just gone live with loads more features and support then the casio custom app.

Its an excellent alternative with a massive TWO YEARS battery life and everything works. The actual screen for the notifications is smaller then the WeLoop but the information scrolls along nicely. The app supports four Casio bluetooth watches and the Dev is working on more features. Go check it out.
[General Accessories] weirder:
Could be, not sure what happens when you try and catch the message twice. Try and combining them into a single task, triggered from one profile;

if connected earphones,

say x

else

Notify x

end if
[General Accessories] Parvati:
Just got my tommy after 2 weeks in transit. Arrived at 44% battery
[General Accessories] reggiexp:
looks cool. for a decent price.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Here you go, final battery update: it lasted 25 days!!!

Fitness tracker was disabled though, but every other notification on, also running 3.14.
[General Accessories] nekisia:
Finally and after 19 days of transit, my weloop is on my wrist. The battery was on 75%. It has 3.12 firmware and it is totally a beauty.
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
Good to hear that most of us have received our tommy and pretty happy about what we have right now. I mean really, I dont see anything else that could beat the 24 day battery life.

Just a quick note from the cn forum, currently the client will not push any notifications on android 5 or ios 8.1, so if ur thinking about updating your devices, maybe hold it back for a couple of weeks before the devs find a way to deal with the problems.
[General Accessories] weirder:
Thanks for the heads up. No new version yet?
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
unfortunately nothing yet, the devs are still working on it. Ill post a update as soon as a new client apk gets published, along with its translated change log.
[General Accessories] nekisia:
Is there any way to manipulate the vibration patterns? I d like to customize every app on "notifications push".
[General Accessories] skiiermike:
I'd like to see this as well. Even the ability to turn the vibrations off for some would be nice.
[General Accessories] skiiermike:
Here's my first thoughts.

I love the look and feel of the watch especially how light it is.

The fitness tracker seems pretty good. My Fitbit died on me a few weeks back but comparing similar days it's pretty close with respect to accuracy. I would like to see them make it so you can edit your profile with your height, weight, age and step distance for a more accurate calorie count.

My battery seems to be holding up well.
[General Accessories] k0ra:
Hello all! Somebody try to made watchface for this watch? Maybe somebody find how to coding for weloop?
[General Accessories] simple1i:
[MENTION=2669525]lycheebill[/MENTION] - could you please ask the Dev team lead an important question.

When they are expecting to be out of Beta? An approx date would be good

Thanks.
[General Accessories] reggiexp:
question. it works without phone? as a normal watch?
[General Accessories] davifigo:
Yes,perfectly
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
When its gonna come out of beta, no one know, not even the devs have any ideas at all. Think of it this way, ios8.1 and lolipop both f***ed up the client side completely, so thats gonna be their top priority until a fix is out. At the same time, tommy just joint with UI.cn for new watch faces and new customization. Also, a new firmware is in development now which is supposed to be a BIG one, all we know right now is that it going to be released around December, and its going to include a lot of new features part from bug fixes, unfortunately though, the devs wont hint anything about what they are actually working on. So rt release, its not gonna show up for a long time im afraid...
[General Accessories] Tenebricosus:
Have it since 1 week

I received my Weloop Tommy one week ago and honestly, this is an awesome watch. I received the watch after a little bit more than 1 month of transit (buyed September 15th Shipped 17th) and it was at 11% on arrival.

I put the watch on charge for about 2 hours untils it was at 100%

I had no problem with the pairing with the Weloop app V.1.26.3562b and my device is a Nexus 4 on Paranoid4.6

The OTA upgrade to the version 3.15 needed 3 tries to succefully install but after all everything works without any problem: Watchface sync, Music, Camera, Find phone, Notification (Hangout, Gmail, Email)

The watch is really really light, i wear it nearly all the time, the screen is scratchless at this time and i have seen no problem with the watch after a couple of shower.

Its now nearly 1 week and the watch show 60% remaining. after a lot of dial syncing and music control. The best about it, its only the first battery cycle.

Since the first day my setting are :

Backlite : Nite

Motion : Nite

Night : Off

Fitness : Off (dont need of that)

Antiloss : Off

In my case, it was a really good purchase and i'm really happy
[General Accessories] fl4m3:
My Battery is empty after 2-3 days

1.26.3562b and the latest 3.15 beta

(it was the same issue at 3.14)

any ideas?:confused:
[General Accessories] nekisia:
I think that it is a hardware problem. Try contact your seller. I wish you good luck.
[General Accessories] gilsan:
how to ota without pressing the 3 side buttons

Just received my black loop, very nice, light and... with an outdated firmware. :(

So lets put in the new firmware.

I had a hard time trying to switch to OTA pressing the 3 buttons, did not work.

So the solution was:

1. launch the android app on the phone

2. check for update.. on the right upper corner hit reset and press the middle button, keep it pressed until updating message appears.

3. go to phone config and unpair the phone.

4. reboot the phone

5. launch the weloop android app and go to check for update

6. wait for it to pair automatically with the watch and start flashing.

Enjoy
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
Yah, definitely. Battery life shouldnt be that low no matter how you use it. Some members have been reporting constant over 20 days of run time. Contact the seller, and try to get a replacement.
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
There are new watchfaces available.
[General Accessories] nekisia:
How can I delete a watchface from my watch?
[General Accessories] kingnappa:
Do you know what time it is?

It' cooking time... :D

Nice Walter White watchface... :P
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
The one who knocks...
[General Accessories] andjan1964:
Is it possible to clear the "message history" on the watch :confused:
[General Accessories] kingnappa:
You can from the Notificiation Menu, once you see all the notifications press the middle button and then the upper button.
[General Accessories] andjan1964:
This only clears the selected message i think... ? not "all" the recieved messages,so its empty ?
[General Accessories] seansu:
Is there any chance we could open source or open the software? It would speed up development drastically.

This is an excellent smartwatch hindered by poor software on the dev's end. Yes WeLoop is providing updates quite often, but there are still many bugs.

Besides, it would be nice to be able to make custom watch faces and apps.
[General Accessories] weirder:
They made it quiet clear they weren't going to open source it

Hacking is something different.. Community must grow first a little i think before the hackers get into it
[General Accessories] ramica:
Firmware 3.16 available!!
[General Accessories] nekisia:
Is there a changelog?
[General Accessories] andjan1964:
Where can i find it ? wasn't on http://fir.im/andobt page.
[General Accessories] ramica:
Watch firmware version 3.16 on the evening of October 29th upload server, interested friends can by black client in the "Check for updates" directly watch the firmware update. The no client update, just watch the firmware update. (Android users being unable to update 3.16)

The firmware update:

1. Improved support for Apple users iOS8 ANCS's stable

2. Amendments to the video, calls can be interrupted, the message will not be interrupted by questions

3. Modify the night mode backlight time 17:00 - 5:00

4. New dial pattern (iOS and Android are available, "Replacing dial" has been added)
[General Accessories] skiiermike:
What do you mean by android users being unable to update?
[General Accessories] seansu:
Did they say why? I can imagine why, however. The hardware isn't difficult to copy and it would allow their competitors to build on the same platform.

I do hope the community grows, as this watch has potential. I'm quite satisfied with it.
[General Accessories] simple1i:
The community would grow faster if they released the firmware. Take Android as an example.
[General Accessories] nekisia:
I think their gonna release the firmware when it is stable.
[General Accessories] dwalker:
I borrowed an iphone to update my watch to 3.16 and now it doesn't connect in android... Now i'll have to wait till i get home to make an ota downgrade to 3.15 :crying:

Edit: It did connect after lots of tries.
[General Accessories] UnholySociopath:
[IMG="I am the one who knocks :)"]http://i.imgur.com/u4GyWeQ.jpg[/IMG]

I think they should at least open source the code for watchfaces or make it easy to create them, very unlikely they would do so but the current limited range of faces is what irritates me most about the product.
[General Accessories] ae01:
Unfortunately, no hebrew support.
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
So to clear things up: The 3.16 firmware for the watch is ios only ? Why would they do that ?
[General Accessories] Davercade:
Not sure about 3.16 but when 3.15 came out first I had to update the Android app from an outside link (not the play store) then go to 3.15, unfortunately I then had to remove and re-install the play store version of the app as I lost connection. I'm using a HTC one M7. The play store app version is about 2 weeks (I think) behind weloop beta app.

That external link is in this thread somewhere.

I got the watch last week and love it!
[General Accessories] nekisia:
A funny fact. When I was talking to viber, the watch vibrates every second of the incoming call. So i close the bluetooth cause it's annoying.
[General Accessories] Pierre118:
Can you link it for me please? I cannot find it.
[General Accessories] skiiermike:
Check post 366. I'm on tapatalk so my pages may be different than yours. I also found that it didn't work by clicking the link on my phone but it did work when i manually typed it in.
[General Accessories] ssvdh66:
24 hour/12hour format

Does anyone know how to change the time format from 24 to 12 hours ? I have changed it in the settings on the watch but it has no effect.
[General Accessories] simple1i:
How to update instructions

The above instructions by [MENTION=4365214]gilsan[/MENTION] (Post #366) is the shortest way to update & works first time. Thanks again, here's the link to the new update: http://www.pgyer.com/andobt - all in one place ...until they change it again.
[General Accessories] nekisia:
Can we replace the band in case of rip it or generally damage it?
[General Accessories] Pierre118:
So far I can see, it cannot be replaced.

---------- Post added at 06:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:43 PM ----------

Indeed a newer software version, but the firmware remains on 3.15.
[General Accessories] grunwald:
Low quality in all meaning

Guys, I really had a hope, that I will have a great product. Unfortunatelly I was wrong. I know I am a bit naive to have a good product for ... I ordered my Weloop 12th of September and it is arrived just this week. This was the longest receiving period of my life. When I order something on Ebay, it's arriving much faster. But anyway it is arrived this week. Yeeeeah! But what a dissapointment. I opened the package and the box and as a first thing, I put the watch on charge.

During the charge my watch started vibrating and guess what?? one of the button fell off. I didn't even touch it. I brought yesterday to the repairman and he told me, that this watch is close to impossible fix it, because the only way to open, is taking off the glass. This way the glass or the plastic frame will be broken, but eather way I will have no water resistance anymore.

I don't even want to mention the battery. This is the third charging cycle this week charging it fully and then let the watch to be dead. (Anti Loss OFF, Backlite Nite, Motion Nite) The battery cannot hold even 24 hours. If you do not recharge it, the watch reset the time and the date if the battery is gone. The good news, after the watch reconnect, the time and the date come back.

I have an Iphone IOS 8.1 I receive the same notifictions again and again randomly. I have no idea why. Some notification I only receive ones. I don't know why.

Ok, so goodies: The watch:

- Quite ok looking, light.

- Even if the armband looking cheap plastic, it is ok to wear it, not uncofortable.

- Menu is ok, easy to navigate, and the order is logical.

- Connection is ok, sometimes I receive fake reconnections messages. I don't know why.

- Connection is still on from the other room. From about 15-20 meters away.

- Backlight. Very good during the night.

- Motion sensor is quite sensitive.

- Vibration do not bother you during sleep hours if you set it up like that.

Bad things:

- QUALITY!!! My watch falling apart! It was broken the very first day.

- Impossible to fix it.

- BATTERY! Not even close to 21 days. Happy to have 24 hours.

- You cannot sep up the backlight. 2 secounds is very short.

- Number of the watchfaces are low and they look quite ugly at the moment.

- I received it from DealeXtreme after 45 days (compared some Ebay sellers 15-20 days maximum)

- I don't understand the headers. Sometimes I don't know what app produces the message.

Summary: I do not suggest you to buy this product, if you don't want to risk your money (even if this is not a big amount) to burn it for nothing. I suggest you to spend a littlebut more and buy a Pebble.

PS: I asked DX to refund me partly, because it would be way to much cost to send it back. Their communication were fast and they partly refunded me. Now I have a cheap 2+1 button, low battery garbage. I would be more happy to have a good functioning Weloop, because I still like the concept and I see the willing behind it. :(
[General Accessories] herel88:
Wow, very bad experience! Ordering from china without express expedition always take 30-40 days, but broken things isn't good, my Tommy is perfect and The battery stands 15 days with every function on, maybe The post have broken yours. In a case like yours i have asked full refound or a new one.

I found weloop Tommy very resistent and of good quality construction, not a problem, and very useful,
[General Accessories] Pierre118:
+1 it's good enough quality, I really like it.
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
Damn, that's sad you have got such a big lemon, get a replace or refund as fast as you can bro! So far I'm really happy about my tommy, my experience was very good so far, never missed a notification, and the watch is averaging 20 days per charge, and the screen survived a 72 hour airsoft game with multiple shots to its face...

Speaking of which, I've just read that Weloop have started to offer "refurbish" services for tommy owners in China. New glass, new bands, new shells (even a different color) together will cost ya 78 Yan plus postage. However I really cant see that happen to overseas consumers at this point, we'll have to wait and see..
[General Accessories] UnholySociopath:
That really sucks, looks like you got a really bad sample. Mine has lasted me 20 days before it died completely. It's a nice product for the price it's just a shame yours arrived in such bad shape.
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
Oh wait did you say iOS 8.1? If so the 3.15 fw is broke for iOS8.1 if i remember right, 3.16 may or may not have them fixed as devs are still working on iOS8.1 and lolipop.
[General Accessories] kennytan84:
i couldn't use it after i downgrade my phone to 4.2. jellybean..

waiting for some killer flagship phone to come out with lolipop
[General Accessories] toretigu:
no vibration

I have a Tommy but i dont have a phone to connect. I had a chance to connect to iPhone 4S and updated the FW to 3.15 and then i tested calling and alarms. But i dont have no vibration. Cant tell if it was before the update. And my new android will arrive next week. So is my watch broken or is something fishy about the FW?
[General Accessories] nekisia:
I don't think that the watch is broken. Try setting up an alarm to test vibration. I have the same issue with you and it fixes by self.
[General Accessories] toretigu:
I had only half a hour to test and upload new FW. And i managed to set alarm but still no vibration. I hope i can find some other phone and test again.
[General Accessories] Pierre118:
New version of the Android app came out today. It comes with a new firmware version v3.16

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.yf.smart.weloop
[General Accessories] nekisia:
I confirm that. Also the update method is more stable and easy than ever. Just click the update button. Without need of charger or put the watch in OTA update screen.
[General Accessories] Davercade:
Just updated the app and you're right the update method is so simple now, no more holding buttons! The way it should be for mass market!

All in all this is a fantastic product for the price! Blown away by the battery alone!

3.16 on my HTC One M7..
[General Accessories] nekisia:
I'm in the first charge, I ve made 3 updates and after 10 days of use, the battery is at 46%. That's a big thing.
[General Accessories] placan:
Upgrade watch 3.16 over official app but i cant upload any watchface. Say "sync failed" on %70-78. What can i do?
[General Accessories] Pierre118:
I had that too, close the app and try it again.
[General Accessories] WhereAlien:
Yes, that is annoying. Please fix the 12/24hr time thing and offer us all the watchfaces we have seen.
[General Accessories] ae01:
Am I missing something?

Why i cannot reject calls from the watch?

I use the last version on both watch and phone, with Xiaomi mi3.
[General Accessories] kingnappa:
Little annoying bug i've noticed with last firmware 3.16. Once every couple hours my Tommy switch to chinese language... -_-

Anyone having this bug?
[General Accessories] fl4m3:
same issue here :-/
[General Accessories] gilsan:
rolling back the firmware to fix languace auto switching problem.

I am having the same problem!! Every couple of minutes the watch switches back to chinese. Does anyone knows a way of rolling back the firmware to previous 3.15 or a way of re-flashing it?

Much apreciated.
[General Accessories] ae01:
I am using it since yesterday, didn't happens to me yet.
[General Accessories] fl4m3:
I’m back on 3.15.

Delete the app, download the beta from xxx (cant post the link, its the same as few pages before)

Switch the watch to OTA Mode und check for updates in the app.

(Android)
[General Accessories] herel88:
Me too, not a big problem but still annoying
[General Accessories] xumasso:
same language problem here

I guess that the problem is with the updated android apk because I updated it but did not update the watch right away from 3.15, however it was already changing the language to chinese even without the firmware update on the watch...
[General Accessories] ae01:
Please answer about the ability to reject calls.

Is it possible to reject calls from the watch?

When I receive a phone call,I just able to stop the vibration from the watch, but the phone keeps ringing as usual.
[General Accessories] nekisia:
In 3.16 I don't face that problem.
[General Accessories] herel88:
I turn back to 3.15 more stable
[General Accessories] nekisia:
We don't have this ability yet.
[General Accessories] Davercade:
Hi there, 3.16 on my HTC One M7 one day later I haven't seen this issue.
[General Accessories] Pierre118:
To reject a call is still on the wish-list. It's not present in v3.16. I hope it will come in a later version.
[General Accessories] ae01:
Thanks for your answer.

I was very surprised that this watch don't have this feature,I think it's a must have in a smart watch.

Hope it will be added soon.
[General Accessories] Aitezaz:
How much they refunded you?
[General Accessories] seansu:
I have 3.16, hardware 2.01 and I don't have this issue. In fact it's so far been a great watch. However it doesn't hold a candle to the Pebble in terms of features. I'm sure a better watch, that is inexpensive will come out in the next few months considering everyone and their grandma is coming out with a smartwatch. We'll see.

That said, I'm pretty okay with Weloop's speed. I'm not entirely happy that they announced or showed a watch with features that we are only about to get, making this product feel more like an alpha or a "feature watch" rather than a real smartwatch. I'll give it some more time.
[General Accessories] fran9119:
Well no it happened to watch Weloop Tommy I was going very well since I received the 27th of October and November 4th day today (9 days I lasted only), calls me and tells others but not me vibrates, you know that it can be? simply does not vibrate, it reset I have reconnected with the phone I upgraded the application of mobile but nothing, has 43% of battery, I put it to charge case is that at a certain percentage of battery not vibrate, but do not think anything of it. If anyone has this happened I could say how to fix it? and if anyone has dropped her battery less than what I put and it still vibrates to tell me too. Thanks and regards
[General Accessories] WSDC:
Help

Try again to update and now the watch is stuck on Updating........ no matter what I press still cannot come out of it. Anyone knows?:crying:
[General Accessories] GeorgT:
When you watch stuck at the OTA mode you must find the watch from the bluetooth menu of your phone, connect it from there, open the app and update it!

If you cant see the watch at the bluetooth menu try to go again OTA mode (3 right button, release the up down.....) until your watch is discoverable!

I had the same problem with the chinese lang so I downgraded to 3.15 too!!!
[General Accessories] WSDC:
Thanks to you finally got updated to 3.16 but funny thing is it doesn't sync the time and the language switches to Chinese. Also my watch faces are left with 1, btw how do we load in those new watch faces?
[General Accessories] GeorgT:
The problems that you described are bugs of the 3.16 firmware, this is why a lot of other people here downgraded to 3.15!

The 15 is until now the most stable firmware!
[General Accessories] mrspy:
I think the Chinese bug is a APP problem and not a FW problem.

I downgraded to 3.15, but Play Store automatically upgraded APP and again, the watch changed to Chinese.

Now i upgraded to 3.16, removed APP, installed APP Version 1.26.3562b and disabled automatic update (Google Play).

Until now, I don't have problems.

Hardware Version: 2.01

Fw Version: 3.16

App Version: 1.26.3562b
[General Accessories] nekisia:
Maybe i m the only lucky one out there. With 3.16 and 1.26.3668 (updated OVER the 1.26.3562b) i don't have any of the above bugs. Not even the language change neither the 12/24hr format.
[General Accessories] ae01:
I don't have any kind of problem neither.
[General Accessories] Pierre118:
Same here, no problems at all with version 3.16
[General Accessories] herel88:
same here, downgrade tommy to 3.15 but automatically update app via g.play. still chinese sometimes. now i try your solution... hope it goes...
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Charge your WeLoop battery on the go

While we wait for a more stable update . . . some fun . . .

Samsung power sharing cable about $20 or £15 and an App, works only with Galaxy 5 and Note 4. You can charge your Weloop using a Galaxy phone . . .

OR

Micro USB to (female) USB adapter for $0.64 from AliExpress - i've tried charging (using my Galaxy 4, stock ROM) a bluetooth speaker, an iphone 4.