yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[General Accessories] bagheera18:
As far as i can see that's handled by dx.com (in my case), and can be returned within 10 days:

Return Unsatisfactory Products

If you are not happy for any reason with your purchase, then just return it within 10 days of receipt for a full refund or an exchange. If the return is not a result of our error, customers will be required to cover shipping cost both ways. And please make sure the item you send back to us is in the original packaging, and the merchandise is in the same condition.
[General Accessories] skiiermike:
I agree with you for the aspects of just a watch but most of the features you mentioned are useless without a smartphone which is directly related to the question that was asked.
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Actually Fenomenon asked "can i use this watch without smartphone ?" - he did not say that he does not have a smartphone.

Because you replied to him without answering his question, which was 'Yes he can'. I answered and provided a little extra info, because he didn't say that he didn't have a smartphone.
[General Accessories] skiiermike:
You are correct but doesn't the watch get its time set and kept in sync from the phone?
[General Accessories] simple1i:
That my friend is what i will find out for you (unless if anyone already knows) by testing it. I'd need to:

1. check that it is syncing with the phone in the first place, i'm sure it is

2. then un-connect it for 3 days and see it there's a difference in time.

3. find out how many seconds its off by, usually Casio's are off by 15-30 seconds each months.

Its interesting that some Casio's without any battery power or data can have: exact time, compass, altimeter, barometer, date, 5 alarms, timer, stopwatch, back-light with tilt sensor for automatic operation, moon phase, sea/tide info'.
[General Accessories] skiiermike:
That will be good to know. My G shock, and citizen skyhawk both keep the time through a radio frequency and they both stay charged through solar. Then some of my other watches are very accurate throughout the year with only a battery.
[General Accessories] BeerCZ:
Did you guys see new watchfaces coming from WeLoop?

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=831340863554736
[General Accessories] vectron:
Don't forget, in addition to using it as ATM5 waterproof standalone watch, you also have a standalone fitness tracker which keeps track of your steps, burned calories, and walked distance. Not necessary the most accurate tracking, but on par with a lot of those other $50+ activity tracker bracelets :)
[General Accessories] vectron:
Can someone PLEASE tell WeLoop to implement am/pm 12hr format on their watchfaces?!? Most of the people here in US still ask me how to read "military" time I have on my watch lol!!!
[General Accessories] vectron:
Another comment I want to make, though it was PITA to get FW 3.13 loaded (through multiple tries, manual OTA, using beta app) - I finally have it and it's pretty snappy in performance!!! But, I was still using 1.25.3401 beta app which crashes on my phone every 2 minutes. I was sick'n'tired constantly sending them "reports" with a crash debug info, so I went back to Play store and downgraded it to 1.24.3162 original app. It doesn't complain about FW 3.13 because it considers it as the latest one, and operation is VERY stable. Of course, I don't have benefit of setting an alarm or fitness app or music app selection (that one didn't work anyway), but I still get all my messages, texts, notifications, and phone calls, and new FW 3.13 is more efficient when it comes to battery life. 3 days of full use with backlight and fitness tracker enabled, and I'm still at 96%.

The only problem with 3.13, music player doesn't work and it crashes the watch, so you have to do reset (hold and release all 3 buttons on the right side).
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Can anyone kindly help me with this please ....Please please [emoji15] [emoji106] [emoji5]

It'll help a lot of other non-devs users out too who are still deciding to buy this watch.
[General Accessories] Fenomenon:
thx for reply.

i didnt decide yet. i can buy weloop or maybe regular one with similar price :)
[General Accessories] WSDC:
Thanks for the reply but that is the dealer's assurance not the manufacturer's. If this product doesn't come with at lease 3 months warranty then what good is the " water resistant 50 ATM"? I hope someone with contact with them can clear this up Thanks
[General Accessories] JthaHost:
Just got mine yesterday. Works perfectly so far (however activities are a bit limited ofcourse).

In regard to the am/pm format: when you go on the watch to the "Date/Time" menu it is possible to switch it to am/pm format!!

HW 2.01, FW 3.11
[General Accessories] bagheera18:
In reply to my own message: I think I was a bit impatient, because everything works perfectly now. There probably had be some syncing or handshaking between the iPhone and the Tommy for full functionality. Basically everything I configure as a notification in Notification Center of iOS pops up as a notification on te phone. Very happy with this!

As for battery life: it was shipped september 16th, and I assume is was fully charged when they put in the box. I got it yesterday (almost 2 weeks after shipping), and the battery was at 38%, which is really nice! I've been playing with it all day yesterday, and battery is now at 35%. I have Backlight set to Night, Motion is Night, Fitness is On, Night is On and Anti loss is On.
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
I'm updating to 3.14 but its stuck at 77%...what should I do?
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Make sure your mobile doesn't go to sleep. .. keep the screen on.

Where did u get the update from? From the weeloop app?
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
Got the update from the app.

I think the connection is lost.

But it said it was downloading the new firmware, so probably it hasn't been installed yet right?

Should I try a hard reset? Is that even possible?
[General Accessories] simple1i:
I think that's the only option available.

If you need instructions I've posted hard reset instruction in post 211.
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
Managed to hard reset it. No harm done?
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Nice one ... let us know if you spot any new features in 3.14

Im still on 3.11 my upgrade only shows 3.11.

I think i need to update the android app itself to get the firmware updates.
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
Got 3.14 installed. No new watchfaces. I'll do some more tests later on.
[General Accessories] Rtulp:
I've updated my watch to 3.14, but the messaging is not working right now.

If I get a Whatsapp message i get:

net.whats

-----------------

net.whatsapp.What

sApp

This is the same for all the other messages I get.

Anyone an idea to solve this problem?
[General Accessories] andjan1964:
I have downloaded the 3.14, and in the menu Watchfaces there is 9 new faces . those from the video :)

But I'm still waiting for my Clock from DX ... ;) so i can't test it....
[General Accessories] Rtulp:
Update: it's working... You can easily drag and drop the watchfaces to the sync bar. You have to hold the watchface for a moment before you can drag it. After a few reboots the notification issue is solved!
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
What app version ?mine still says coming soon....
[General Accessories] standef:
From the Chinese Weloop page:

You waiting, firmware version 3.14 beta supports dial-replaceable client released!

Note: Please download the latest beta client installation, and then immediately click "Check for Update" to update the firmware to watch, do not perform other operations. Android and iOS users have to uninstall before installing the current client version of the phone, ignore / cancel Bluetooth devices look black binding, such as the installation of new clients look good re-pair connection, and then watch the firmware update.

iOS latest client 2.063

Download: http://fir.im/iosobt ( Please use a browser that comes with iOS Safari to open a connection to download)

Android latest client 1.253502b

Download: http://fir.im/andobt ( please make sure the phone has completely cleared the current version and then install)

This update log:

1 added a new feature to replace the dial

2 pedometer data to increase the stability of

3 page causes the message to solve the sometimes deranged bug

fixes alarm 4. 00:00 Problem

5 repair phone has unread messages, message push confusion after successful pairing

Special Note: Non-fit models please choose carefully the update! Also, if the synchronous dial, software end stuck, watch the end stuck "synchronization" of the case, the endpoint to return the phone to re-enter the "replace dial" option, point to re-synchronize the operation!

Firmware upgrade process if there is jammed case, please refer to the upgrade 3.12 firmware upgrade failed tutorial!

Given we may have questions about the replacement of dial operation, first talk about the specific methods of operation:

After installing the latest beta client, connect the watch to enter the client "Replacing dial" click favorite pattern, hold down and drag it to the bottom of three small box, and then click "Sync" button, the client in order to synchronize the dial pattern.

If you get stuck during synchronization pattern, please return to the upper left corner, and then re-enter the "replace dial" Re-operation about synchronization.
[General Accessories] otamraz:
Hello all,

just today arrived my Weloop watch and they look very good:good:

ordered on 10.09.,so 20 days on the way

Now i will try to make update for 3.14 :fingers-crossed:
[General Accessories] guba91:
Where are you from? :)
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
I really wish they would focus more on current bugs in notification and music control rather than adding useless watch faces.
[General Accessories] otamraz:
From Pilsen,Czech Republic
[General Accessories] guba91:
Thanks bro..

I'm from Italy, so the time must be the same. Thank you :D
[General Accessories] aleksandar777:
With new version i have issue with music control.

Songs can be changed, but song info is stucked on first song, or does not show at all.

When revert app to previous version everything is ok.

Device is now on 3.14
[General Accessories] smiley4017:
I like the looks of this, but with all the problems and the pebble just came down to $99 I think I will go with the pebble.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Pebble - better support and a ton more apps, BUT you still have 5-6 day battery life and no built-in fitness tracker :)
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
My device is on 3.14 now but when i check for updates it says new update found: 3.14 ???
[General Accessories] ae01:
Hey.

Any news about the hebrew support?
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
Solved by resetting the watch and reinstalling the app.
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Time will tell Vectron. Once the WeLoop software goes out of Beta (for which we have no date yet) then we can compare. As long as there are no major bugs and the WeLoop has most of the functions of a watch of its type then we're all happy. Pebble will have more apps and that's acceptable.

The consumers would rather have a watch with less battery life that works as it should, rather then a long battery life watch which is buggy.

Everything has potential, its the actual that counts. Its down to the software devs to make good software and make this baby shine.

Question is: how can we help make this watch excellent?
[General Accessories] bagheera18:
Is anybody else having trouble installing this version? It keeps on downloading and installing, but at the last moment it says "Unable to download App. Tommy could not be installed at this time". Maybe there's a .ipa available?

Update: as it turns out, this update is for iOS 7.1 and above, I'm still at a (jailbroken) version below that. Time to upgrade ?
[General Accessories] vectron:
As a quick update, v1.25.3502b latest beta app is SOLID!!! No crashes like the previous beta version. Firmware v3.14 update went smoothly, but I did have to put WeLoop into manual OTA mode (make sure you keep it on a charger when you do that, won't work otherwise). Watchfaces are not bad, though I'm not too crazy about "graphical dial" because it makes screen too busy and hard to see the time. Analog dials are good, and I really like new digital dial, especially the dot one. The way how it setup now, you can select only 3 watchfaces, one from each category (digital, analog, graphical), drop it on the bar at the bottom and hit Sync. Make sure your watch is on the charger, mine was getting stuck at Sync until I put it on a charger. After everything is updated, just do a quick reset of the watch (either from within internal menu or when on a charger by pushing and releasing all 3 buttons no the right side). After watchfaces are updates, you will have 3 original ones and 3 new ones.
[General Accessories] UnholySociopath:
A warning to people, the screen is NOT protected very well, I managed to scratch mine quite noticeably today.
[General Accessories] vectron:
How did you manage that? I put mine through so much abuse, under water, playing with kids, under the hood of my car, etc. Wonder if it makes sense to get some cheap screen protector, cut it out, and apply to the screen.
[General Accessories] simple1i:
Vertron didnt u say its scratch resistant?
[General Accessories] cerebuspie:
I had originally discounted the pebble due to cost and lack of fitness and was just about to get the weloop but the latest pebble firmware has added background tasks which allow always on fitness tracking ( jawbone and misfit). The new $99 price, maturity, apps and integration with existing apps like sleep as android make the pebble more attractive.

Other than battery life I am not sure what the weloop brings to the table now ( charging every 5 days is fine for me, covers all my travel )
[General Accessories] otamraz:
Hi guys,

After 3.14 update works all very well:all messages,whatsapp,FB,messenger,email,calls.

Remote for player and camera too.

Fitness works without any problem.

Only battery is after one day on 43%:(

Iphone 5,ios 7.1.2
[General Accessories] UnholySociopath:
I bumped it against some concrete very lightly and I mean super lightly, something that would damage any screen but I think on a watch it's more of an issue as it distracts from the appearance. A cheap screen protector cut out seems like a good idea, I'll look into it :)
[General Accessories] vectron:
After all the updates, charge it up to 100% and go from there

I set everything up yesterday (latest up, firmware, watchfaces, etc.), charged it up to 100%, and 24 hours later it's still at 99% after a full day of email and message notifications (though I turned off fitness). I'm on Android, so not sure if it has something to do with iPhone pair up.
[General Accessories] vectron:
That's what description says and I bumped it plenty; maybe I was just lucky...
[General Accessories] JthaHost:
Could someone please exactly tell me how I can get the new firmware (plus latest beta)? I would really like some new watch faces, but I do not really know how to do this...

Thanks!
[General Accessories] simple1i:
I've not done this myself yet ... because i dont know how to either, i too have asked. :D

1. you have to download (links below) the app on your phone and install it

2. put your watch in OTA mode

3.. from the app you have to choose check for Updates.

Best to wait for someone to confirm...

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APP DOWNLOAD

iOS latest client 2.063

Download: http://fir.im/iosobt ( Please use a browser that comes with iOS Safari to open a connection to download)

Android latest client 1.253502b

Download: http://fir.im/andobt ( please make sure the phone has completely cleared the current version and then install)

More info on post #246

---------- Post added at 12:06 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:59 AM ----------

1. I can confirm the watch does sync (it would be sad if it didn't) - its a second slower then the phone (& an atomic watch)

I left it unpaired for 1.5 days:

2a. as soon as i unpaired it went off by 20 seconds (20 sec behind)

2b. after 1.5 days it was another 3 seconds behind (that's 23 seconds.) so its 1.5 seconds off per day, BUT I have a feeling its random, if others try it, it'll be give other figures. Best to try it once the software is out of Beta.
[General Accessories] LaurensBER:
The weloop health companion app seems to be released and it contains almost everything I wanted :) I don't have a weloop (yet!) but if someone could test it and see how the pedometer, sleep tracking and alarms work that would be great! I'm particularly interested in the sleep tracker and if the alarms are "smart alarms" (wakes you up when you are in light sleep).

I'm still a bit in doubt, I swim a lot and the Pebble offers awesome sleep tracking (+API and more watch faces) but costs more than the double in my country, is a bit bigger and has far less battery life :(

Has anyone tried swimming with the Weloop yet? A lot of watches hold up just fine in the shower but do a bit worse when you swim intensively for 2-3 hours :)
[General Accessories] ramica:
Do you know if there are a iOS version of this app?
[General Accessories] vectron:
That companion application looks very polished!!! I'm very impressed, but the only problem - it doesn't pair up with a watch yet lol!!! I see the same comments on Google Play, people can't connect to the watch. Will wait for it to be fixed....
[General Accessories] nekisia:
Hi there. I m consider to buy it after reading carefully all the pages here. Although I have some thoughts about upcoming updates. Is it difficult to sync the directions of Google maps when it's on navigation? This could be great when ur on a bike. Does the tommy supports standalone alarm clock. I actually mean that when you setting up an alarm through weloop app on the phone, can you shut down the phone and the alarm still working? And last, can we expect to see a standalone time counter on the watch?
[General Accessories] lycheebill:
To answer your question about syncing with google maps, i suppose it do-able. But I really dont think its going to work well because notifications on weloop delays by over a second or two, so gpsing it with our watches dont really seem to be a good idea. Second, yes it will. As long as the alarm gets synced, it will still work on the watch even if bt`s d/c-ed. Lastly, well there have been discussions about a standalone stop watch function on the cn official forum, and I dont think its that hard to implement, so yah, there could be, but when, no one knows XD.
[General Accessories] IMBezza:
Stuck in OTA

Hi guys,

I got mine this morning, ordered it on the 18th September so just over two weeks to get here which aint bad!

Started up, connected first try and then I tried to update through the app. That didnt work so I went into OTA mode, hit update and it started... only it's stuck at 0%!

I tried using the instructions on this thread to disconnect bt, reset phone, reinstall weloop app and reconnect but now I cant connect the watch to my phone! The phone see's the watch & the watch is stuck "updating...0%"

Any ideas?

EDIT: I was being stupid... the watch had connected without me realising... *cries in the corner*
[General Accessories] vectron:
^ also, make sure you have your watch on the charger!
[General Accessories] simple1i:
I have the same problem... the phone won't connect with the watch even though the watch is on charger, its still stuck on OTA mode [emoji15]
[General Accessories] IMBezza:
UPDATE

Update on the above, my app wasn't giving any success message or saying it had connected. I went into update screen on the app with the watch stuck in OTA mode.

The app shows current version unknown, newest version 3.14. I hit upgrade, hit OK and selected my watch and it kept looking like it was still stuck. I pressed update again (in the background of the "updating...." ) and it started working!

Well chuffed :) watch is working fine now, all notifications are syncing fine not all looking great when they show up!! Very impressed so far, great value for money.
[General Accessories] fran9119:
Hi Greetings, Could I clarify doubts clock? . You know if it goes well with Iphone 5S? Brings the Spanish language? , Is only the clock link with the phone no? and you can receive calls on the clock as them from the same clock and answer calls from the same clock? and receives all notifications, I mean the sms, the WhatsApp and can be answered to them or from the watch can only be read? just connect by bluethoo and is already no? I'm reading then you need to update ota (which it is not) as it would have to actuaizar or updated and I imagine that the clock will update anything else you do not get home? . Well sorry to dwell much but I buy a watch U8 and after I will buy it just calls and receive calls because no application to install on the phone for sms and WhatsApp. I ask apology along and post questions. Thanks and regards

Hola saludos , me podriais aclarar unas dudas del reloj ? . Sabeis si va bien con Iphone 5S ? , trae el idioma español ? ,solo es enlazar el reloj con el movil no ? y puedes recibir llamadas en el reloj como hacerlas desde el mismo reloj y contestar a las llamadas desde el mismo reloj ? y las notificaciones recibe todas , me refiero a los sms , a los WhatsApp y pueden contestarse a las mismas desde el reloj o solo se pueden leer ? solo es conectarlo por bluethoo y ya esta no ? luego estoy leyendo que hay que actualizarlo via ota ( no se que es ) como se tendria que actuaizar o como se actualiza y me imagino que se actualizara el reloj nada mas que te llegue a casa no ? . Bueno siento extenderme tanto pero es que compre un reloj U8 y despues de comprarlo solo me va las llamadas y el recibir llamadas porque no hay aplicacion para instalar en el movil para los sms y los WhatsApp . Os pido disculpa por lo largo y las preguntas del post . Gracias y un saludo
[General Accessories] antimaterie_:
Review of WeLoop Tommy smartwatch, w/lots of pics! - re-inventing the Pebble ...

I'm using the Weloop watch a couple of weeks now. It's a great watch but I've a problem the watch is paired and after a while the watch did not give any notifications anymore, but still connected with my phone.

After repairing it again with my iPhone 5S (iOS 8) it is giving the notifications, but after a while not any notification is displayed. I've reset the watch and phone and repairing it many times but the problem still exists.

The watch has firmware v. 3.14 and app version 2.063. This problem did also happen with earlier firmwares. The watch hardware version is 2.01.

Does anyone facing the same problem?
[General Accessories] daanwassenaar:
I have the same problem on android.

Also, received notifications when the phone is not paired don`t get pushed when the phone is in range.

That and alot of other problems but i`m sure the weekly updates will solve most.
[General Accessories] simple1i:
@ IMBezza - I'm trying to update to 3.14. Could you clarify how you did the above?

Watch is stuck in OTA mode. I have the new app installed ( on Android), when I try to connect to the watch i get (see 2nd attached image)

[IMG="No connect"]http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/2/9/6/0/8/5/9/weloop_connect.png?key=oPF2Qfz5mrEsZfH7TGrsNQ&ts=1412521564[/IMG]

So I go back to the main menu on the app and choose 'Check for Update' and i get (See 1st attached image)

[IMG="weLoop OTA"]http://dl-1.va.us.xda-developers.com/2/9/6/0/8/5/0/weloop-ota.png?key=2PIe2J17OrlScOTiL0zK7w&ts=1412521109[/IMG]

Watch is on charger on OTA mode, what am i doing wrong? I dont understand when you say

"I pressed update again (in the background of the "updating...." ) "

I've tried following posts #182 & #210

Thanks.