yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
OK to summarise then;

1. Android box powered via HU, mini USB connected to PC and Android box internal/SD card was able to be mounted.

2. Android box powered via HU, speaker output connected to line in on PC and can hear audio via PC.

3. Same as 2 but now mini USB is connected to PC. Android box and HU switch off and will not start again. Android box is dead.

So it was a combination of the PC being connected via the mini USB and the speaker output being connected to the PC's line that caused the issue. I've performed some tests myself below with just the android box and neither the PC being connected to the mini USB or a powered hub via the USB type A connection, power the android box. The only scenario which powers the Android box via USB is when connecting to a PC with a Type A USB cable at both ends.

My experience today in more detail with the Android box not being connected to HU;

1. Powered USB hub connected via the USB Type A connector on the Android box does not power it (the box). Not yet tried powering with 12V DC power supply.

2. PC Connected via the Mini USB connector on the Android box does not power it (the box). Not yet tried powering with 12V DC power supply.

3. PC Connected with a USB Type A connector (at both ends of the cable) powers the Android box but Windows does not detect it. Only when a USB cable is attached from another USB port on the PC to the mini USB connector on the Android box does Windows attempt to install the drivers.

I was trying to root it but unfortunately I appeared to be using the slowest windows netbook which meant doing anything was impossible and I ran out of time. So will have another go tomorrow but having wasted hours trying to get rockchip drivers working on Windows before I'm not looking forward to it.

One scenarios I'd like to know if anyone has tried ...

---- Note I'm not encouraging anyone to try this as it might be a condition the box doesn't like and break it ----

So I'd like to know if anyone has had;

1. The android box powered by a 12V DC adapter AND the HU at the same time (not sure anyone would have a need for this)

2. The android box powered by a 12V DC adapter OR the HU and connected via a USB Type A to a PC i.e. USB Type A connector at either end.

---- Just to reiterate I'm not encouraging anyone to try this but I'd like to know if anyone has done it and it worked ----

This not only so we can prove the safe modes of powering the box but also so that I might be able to find a way to extend the standby time by using a USB 5V or a 12V power bank.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Neither wireless is working at this time. I think there is also some issues with loading the NAND driver or fstab (see, this is the linux crap I don't have a good grasp of!).

Just a little FYI for the rest. It should be rather trivial to setup 'ducking' in the radio and AV apps. Bonovo (that's who is writing the code for Newsmy. They aren't handling it internally) has already started some code on this. Looks like they had some methods in place, and then took them out;

https://github.com/Zaphod-Beeblebro...m/bonovo/bonovohandle/HandleService.java#L531

You can also start to see some of the MCU communication here:

https://github.com/Zaphod-Beeblebro...kitkat/bonovoHandle/jni/com_bonovo_handle.cpp

Interjecting code on MCUsleep & MCUwakeup is again, relatively trivial. I just need time. I also had preferred to get AOKP working before delving into some of these other items. But I'm really quite tired of banging my head against the wall on that front.

I spent some time last night playing with Xposed, a few particular modules, and a couple of paid/pro apps, and I've replicated much of what I had hoped to use AOKP for. So, maybe I'll turn my focus to the stock apps, and start working from the stock base.

Note, that While I can use the most recent kernel source, the rest of the system will be based on 1.0.9. Although, outside of their MCUSettings app (which I could probably just include their prebuilt version), I don't think there is much we would lose at this point.

Going to be pretty busy the next week or two though. Might be after that before I really start to delve into it.
[Android Head-Units] wacko37:
2. The android box powered by a 12V DC adapter OR the HU and connected via a USB Type A to a PC i.e. USB Type A connector at either end.

I have tried this on several occasions using a 12v 2a adaptor when trying to install rockchip drivers and everything was is ok and still working. (But didn't work when connecting to the pc)

Regarding the rockchip drivers, make sure you are using a x86 bit system and that you connect the device to the pc using mini usb with android box not powered and then hold in the reset button while connecting power (H/U or 12v supply) then release reset button after green power light.

Now if you have been messing already trying to install driver this way you will need to remove/uninstall old drivers then try the mentioned above.

You may also need to browse to the desired drivers (x86 bit of course)

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_BVZXn9n3LM
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Drivers

Just to clarify a few things. To Connect to the PC you should be using the mini-usb port. This is the client/slave/device port. The USB-A port is a Host port (for connecting periphals, KB, Mouse, etc).

While it may be possible to draw power through the host port, it is generally a Bad Idea. To put power to the box, either get a 9v to 12V adapter (mine is 7.5v and seems to power it fine) or use the head unit.

As for the drivers, note that there are two drivers to be dealt with. One is the Bootloader mode. This is the mode when you hold the reset button while powering the device on. You need the rockchip drivers that come with the Batchtool for this. NOTE THIS WILL NOT GIVE YOU ADB, and WILL BE OF NO USE TO ROOTING!!!

The other mode is to simply turn the thing on and plug it in via mini-USB. For this, you should use the stock ADB Drivers included with the lasted Google/Android SDK.

http://developer.android.com/tools/help/sdk-manager.html

This will give you adb access (which is what you need for KingoRoot, etc). this is also how you mount storage, etc.

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In regards to keeping audio from AVIn while app not active.

Code here:

https://github.com/Zaphod-Beeblebro...vIn/src/com/bonovo/avin/AvInActivity.java#L59

The code is pretty simple. The problem will be that the Video and Audio are both tied to that MCU function and not separable. And since those 'signals' are not visible to Android, there will be no way to keep AV Audio while exiting the AV App. Think of Android as simply a remote control that turns on/off a TV (AV IN). When it's ON, it takes over the screen. To get the screen back, you have to turn if OFF. and thus the audio goes too. This is similar to how the Radio works, in that you have a remote to control volume, channel, etc, but you can't do anything with the actual audio stream.

This is one area where MCU source code could be useful. What's needed is not only the current jniAvInSwitch(True/False), but something like a jniAvAudioSwitch(True/False) in which we could turn on the AV Audio without losing the screen. Who knows, maybe there is enough hooks in the current software and I just haven't dug deep enough yet, but my initial exploration suggest this particular feature is out of reach without Bonovo help.
[Android Head-Units] :
windows 8.1 x64

Im on a surface pro 3 running windows 8.1 x64 thanks

just found a new version of rkbatch 1.7 tool and installed driver but rkbatch tool cant see device still. Do i need to hook it up to the h/u to power or is the mini usb to pc enough power for it since the green light comes on
[Android Head-Units] JeepAndroid:
Hi folks,

Anyone had luck installing this in a Jeep Wrangler? Any idea on parts I will need?
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Search for a double-din dash kit and an aftermarket stereo wire harness for the year of your Jeep Wrangler.

A quick search on Google found a kit and harness for the 2007-2012 Wrangler. Keep in mind you may need an antenna adapter as well.

This will give you most of what you need. You will also probably want some wire connectors because using electrical tape is messy.
[Android Head-Units] JeepAndroid:
Excuse my ignorance, but are the sides adjustable to different double din dimensions? or are they all standard?
[Android Head-Units] JayG30:
I have a few questions.

Can you use "OK Google" commands (Google Now) with this? The info I read said no due to the Bluetooth implementation but then I read something that sounded like it was solved. And is this something a lot of other android head units can do (I haven't seen it mentioned or demonstrated)?

Can you do USB teathering with this unit (again haven't seem this mentioned as a feature on any head units)?

Any expectations on supporting android auto in the future on this device or others?

Finally how do people feel about the limited per outs on this device? Looks like only 1 pre-out so no rear or sub. My understanding is this makes fading front/rear impossible on the head unit (but it sounds like in the first post that this has been added, which I don't get).
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
So the only connection to the unit is via the mini USB to the surface pro? Have you plugged it into a monitor to see if it does boot? If that is powering the box on its own then its different to the results I saw yesterday which is odd. Is your box 1 or 2gb?
[Android Head-Units] bas-r:
Also, make sure the hole for the screen is 178mmx100mm. There seems to be some variation in double din standard sizes, as I found out for my Suzuki Swift.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Is there any place else that would allow you to disable the reverse camera? My mcu settings page doesn't list a reverse camera on/off at all.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
In MCU settigns, appear as AV-IN, just untick it

If you disable this, reverse camera wont enter anymore auto
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Hmm, I thought that was more for the avin app itself, little misleading. Thanks ill give that a shot.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
Yes look that are bad translated, or may be also affect av-in, i dont know,

What i know is if i have this unticked, reversecamera dosent open auto on reverse gear
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Could be, heck half the radio app isn't even translated into English lol.

I just upgraded to the latest firmware, tested out the backlight button colour change, and it has zero effect on my vw spec unit, which had red led backlight buttons.
[Android Head-Units] :
Yes only connected via mini usb to surface pro and no i dont have a monitor to plugged it up to. i saw somepne say if green light is on then android is running, and mine is 2gb model.
[Android Head-Units] bockywocky:
Yes, you're right, that's the way it blows my Android Box ! :crying:

It is still not clear how much power the box needs.

Summer say.. put it on 12v DC, but its allready working on 7.5v :confused:

Maybe its having a voltage regulator 12v -> 5v , but even then it is always better to offer the lowest possible voltage to the box.

And of corse always use a stable DC power supply!

Did anyone test it on 5v DC?

Could anyone confirm if the + is on the center pin?
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
Does anyone else have this alignment issue in the radio app since upgrading to the latest firmware ? Or is this because of the softkeys being disabled ?

The 'fine step Auto' are slightly out of alignment

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This worked, thanks!
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
Yes i have it too, dont know if was for the software or to new version
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
As parazit26 requested by pm, i upload some new icons for my theme

Attached you get it.

are for

file explorer

navigon

iGo

To change it. you first need to click UNLOCK WIDGETS ON THEMER OPTIONS MENU

After that. make a long press over the icon you want to change. and on contect menu click con configure

after that, select the icon again and in buttom var, click on image, and wil allo to set a new image. (choose one of the attached, you need to save it on you android box before)

To change the action, just select on access point option on that menu too. and select app you want to open.

I will try to record a video showing how to do later
[Android Head-Units] spoks:
I have softkeys anabled. But volume slider now always shows full bar.
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
So;

1. + is on the center pin.

2. I tested the box with 5V and 6V adapters and it didn't work.

3. 9V and 10V did work* as it appears to be a range of voltages the internal regulator will accept, 7.5V in your case.

* 9V and 10V did work although wifi reception is fine near my router, its not great from my bedroom but I'm not sure if that is a power, android or built in wifi issue. Also I have seen the screen blank a couple of times when connected to a monitor. Not sure if that is related to being underpowered either.

- So it appears that the adapter input is supposed to be 12V DC but can accept lower voltages.

- I assume the power from the HU is also 12V (need to test) via the firewire cable.

- You can also power the Android box from the USB Type A power when connected to a PC but some people say this isn't recommended.
[Android Head-Units] bockywocky:
I just ask Summer and she confirmed it can be powered with 12v DC + in the center. She said.. no doubt about this!

Does anyone know if the NU3001 will automatically activate my rear camera when my car is in reverse gear.

Does (or must) this signal comming from a seperated canbus signal or directly out of the unit?

If does.. which labeled cable is this?
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
wiki is explained http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Newsmy_CarPad_NU3001#Hardware_and_Cables

Cable is labeled as reverse.

But if you have canbus working unit you can use by canbus only
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
You need an external signal connected to Green/Black wire labelled "Reverse-In" according to the wiki -> http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Newsmy_CarPad_NU3001

How that is fed is dependant on your car, mine needed an external canbus adapter to feed this signal.

You can then control whether AVIN is automatically switched using this signal in the MCU config.
[Android Head-Units] NU5002S:
Problem with connecting RK3177 to rkbatchtool: I connected, installed ADBdriver from the program, says "good, adb connected" but when I open rkbatchtool, the pink square does not light up and the rkbatchtool does not see my 2gb newsmy unit.

How can I possibly fix rkbatchtool not seeing my newsmy unit? Is connected to the OTG port with a regular USB cable, powered on through my car.

Edit: will try another computer and the 64 bit drivers listed on the newsmy facebook page and see if that works,.
[Android Head-Units] Summer-Newsmy:
really？ i originaly think facebook is most popular way.

Actually i do not like facebook too, i like this website, this one can used by my phobe and no need third browser.

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yes the translation of english not good, AV-IN mean rear camera. This is a wrong translation.

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i cannot unsterstand what is this problem? Could you,make it more clear?

summet
[Android Head-Units] bockywocky:
And if you want to read it easier, you can use the XDA or Tapatalk App :good:
[Android Head-Units] renedis:
Ouch..

If I want a extra android-box for development Summer is charging me 115 US dollar (98,84 euro).

I think I'm going to pass on that one.
[Android Head-Units] kwalsh24:
I too have that issue as well.
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Depends on the kit, some are, most are not. You may need to trim some plastic.

OK Google: You need to use a USB mic or a Bluetooth mic connected to Android, the built-in mic and Bluetooth via the BT app are not usable by android

USB Tethering: Not sure if anyone has tried, let us know if it works

Android Auto: Probably not, but who knows at this point

1x Pre-out: I use it for Sub-out and use the crossover in the Amp to filter out high-freq sounds.

Another pre-out? Someone took apart the head unit and saw there might be circuitry for rear pre-outs but that theory was not tested.
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
Next best replacement for Android Auto right now: here.
[Android Head-Units] bockywocky:
That's a lot of money and don't forget you have to pay import duties again.

Today I received my replaced Android box and payed €39 import duties again.

Already payed €75 to send it to Summer and €39 to get it back, so I already payed for an extra Android box :)
[Android Head-Units] JayG30:
Thanks, looks pretty nice. Forgive my ignorance (didnt even know about zooper until now) but this is something that you could just setup as the default appearance for android on pretty much any of these android based head units right?

Thanks.

The lack of preouts still concerns me with this device (it is a head unit first and foremost after all). Besides that I really like it.
[Android Head-Units] usafle:
Once again: quid-pro-quo!!!!!!

This is what upsets me. You (and others) are busting a$$ to try and make this a BETTER product. You'd think Newsmy would be all over it and trying to assist you guys in any way possible.

How many sales did this thread send them already? How many improvements have we made and suggested?

I'm not saying send it out to the Devs for free, but come on.....do something for them!!!!

/end rant

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Yes. Zooper PRO is a paid app though. Not sure how much as I've owned it forever. Think of it as a full screen widget. Guess best way to describe it.

The pre outs are disturbing but if you have a good AMP with a built in crossover it shouldn't be an issue. Along with the install of Viper4Android and a good convolver and some tweaking (my lazy a$$ has yet to find time to post instructions on the Wiki on the install/set up process for Viper with convolver and tweaking -MY fault all) it shouldn't be an issue.
[Android Head-Units] jpapadami:
Why don't you ask www.exclusivecarauto.com for an offer. At least you know you won't be paying import taxes.
[Android Head-Units] HATEMBS:
Hi guys thanks for the formidable work that you do I m new here but i read all the pages, i followed your forum since 2014 but i got my car pad II only 2 weeks ago and i enjoy it.

PS: please excuse my english because i m from Tunisia
[Android Head-Units] renedis:
There are ways to lower/don't pay the import duties. But it is still a lot of money.

I understand your rage but I can understand Summer to. How is she going to justify that to her manager? Some guy from Europe wants a free or cheap deal on a 2GB android-box because then it's easier to mod our software.

Maybe she could give me a discount.. But I'm not a person that asks for minimum prices, discounts or donations.

For now, buying a android-box from Summer/Newsmy is to expensive to me. Maybe other channels are more interesting.

Will try, thank you for the information.
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
Better software = more sales

Being seen to give a bit to the community = more sales for Summer directly as some people here will want to repay the gesture

It doesn't have to be free, just something to recognise what's happening in this community.

If you don't ask you don't get. What's the worst that can happen? If she says no and you're back to where you are now, nothing lost.

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Welcome on board! I'm enjoying mine as well !
[Android Head-Units] HATEMBS:
yes it s true that lights on left don't light up automatically when you turn car's key or turn on your unit; they light up only when you get your car's light turned on, but i found the solution and my unit seems more nice now even in the dark and car's lights off, i' ll post some photos soon and explain what i did to get that.
[Android Head-Units] delamarrr:
Couldn't you just wire the illumination wire to accessories instead? This would make the hu think the headlights are on all the time.
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Most of the important info from the forum is in the Wiki

http://xdaforums.com/wiki/Newsmy_CarPad_NU3001

Be sure to check it out.

Yes, all it needs is power. You could even wire it up to a switch to enable/disable it at will. Keep in mind this also controls the dimming feature that you can enable in the MCU app.
[Android Head-Units] bockywocky:
My reverse cable is different than the one on the picture in the wiki, see att.

Yes it's also labeled as 'Reserve', but it will not give me +12v if my car is in reverse gear.

Must it automatically switch to AVIN or to Backcam app?

How does the H/U know that my car is in reverse? (I am also using a separated canbus decoder).
[Android Head-Units] peregrines:
Did someone install this unit in a 2010 Toyota Prius III?

I am worried if the SWC (steering wheel control) is going to work at all?
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
It looks as if you are using the other cable supplied.

It doesn't supply 12V, you must supply it with 12V when in reverse and the unit will switch to AVIN. Either your car wiring loom provides this or you have tap into the reverse light circuit or you can buy a 3rd party canbus decoder to provide it. I purchased a connects2 harness/canbus decoder for mine which they annoyingly they focus on the steering wheel control which we don't need. There were about 3 types for mine so will dig out link later as I primarily needed it for the ignition feed but it was also handy as it converted the ford quadlock connector to ISO which matched the harness supplied.

Not sure what the Backcam app is? No you can disable autonmatic switching in the app which updates the MCU, I have whilst I wait for my cam to be delivered.

As said above you need to supply 12V to the "reverse" wire. You can try this yourself by connecting it to the 12V supply on the connector. Which canbus decoder are you using?

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SWC are either a resistive ladder, different resistance for each button or via the canbus, each button press puts a different message on the canbus. This unit understands the resistive ladder type of SWC. If you have canbus then you'll need a 3rd party adapter to convert them.

If nobody replies here then check out some prius forums and ask which type it has on there.
[Android Head-Units] dom_christo:
just wondering, do you have the Phone answer / hangup and voice SWC buttons in your Subaru? Do they work?

Also, can you comment on the Size of this unit?

Specs seem to say it is 178mm wide, the Double Din spec is 174mm.
[Android Head-Units] bockywocky:
No it's not the extra harness for the Nissan but I guess I receive a new type wiring harness. I will make a full picture this evening when I'm home if you want.

I'm also using a connect2 canbus decoder for my Peugeot 207. I already find out the right cable for reverse gear, and yes this will give me the 12v. if my car is in reverse gear.

No I know that I have to connect this to the reverse cable of the H/U and it will switch to AVIN. Gonna try that this evening...

The backcam app (I guess that was the name) is also an app to view your reverse camera.

Thank you for your clear explanation!

Oohhw.. other thing..

Yesterday I receive my replaced Android box and it was rooted out of the box :D