yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] nichitandrei:
Dualboot Windows 8.1 and Android-x86 on Sony Vaio Duo 11

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Required:

3 USB Flash Drive

Make a bootable USB with Windows 8 (in case that something goes wrong). Make sure that the bootable USB is working: shutdown your Vaio Duo 11 and press the Assist key (next to volume key) and choosing form the menu the option Recover or maintain your system (if everything is ok, it will start Windows installation so you can press long the Power button, remove this USB and start Windows to continue with next two USB)

Make a bootable USB with Android

On this USB you will install Android (it should be at least 16GB storage and I recommend to be an USB 3)

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EaseUS Partition Master from here

Win32DiskImager from here

Latest version of the Android-x86 from here

Preparing Guide:

Insert the 3rd USB in your PC

Open EaseUS Partition Master and format the 3rd USB to ext3 and set it as primary

Remove the 3rd USB

Insert the 2nd USB in your PC

Open Win32DiskImager, choose the Android-x86 image, on Device choose the 2nd USB, press Write and wait till the Progress is done

Shutdown your PC

Press Assist button and go to bios and disable Secure Boot and change the boot mode from UEFI to Legacy

Save changes and Shutdown

Install Guide:

Press Assist button and "Start from media" (you need to have inserted the 2nd USB)

It will start "Android-x86 Live & Installation CD"

Choose "Installation – Install Android-x86 to harddisk"

Now you have to insert the 3rd USB and press "Detect devices" (pay attention on what devices appear because you will have to choose this one)

Choose the device that appear when you inserted the 3rd USB (if you are not sure is better to write down all the devices and when you will insert the 3rd USB you will see clearly the new device and if you want, you can ask me which one is the right one)

When it ask you to format, choose “Do not format”

“Do you want to install Grub” choose Yes

“Do you want to install /system directory as read/write?” choose Yes

“Android-x86 is install successfully” choose Reboot

When your PC is rebooting, remove the 2nd USB

It will start the boot loader Gnu Grub were you choose Android-x86 4.4-r1

Note:

The first time when boot Android-x86 it will take a longer time

Auto Rotate doesn't work, but you can search on Google Play the word "Rotate" and you can install the first app

Thanks to saary
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] Sirence:
Is there a way to get root rights on android x86?
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] nichitandrei:
To be honest, I don't really know, I just managed to install android on the USB and run it on my Vaio Duo 11. Now I'm trying to install android on my SSD.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] Sirence:
I'd actually like to hear if you manage it, can you keep me updated with your outcome?
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] nichitandrei:
If I will manage to install Android directly on my SSD, in dualboot with Windows, I will send you a pm
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] saary:
me too please :D
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] nichitandrei:
Haha...you deserve it! You helped me to figure it up how to dualboot Android and Windows;)
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] nichitandrei:
I'm sorry, but I can't find my time to try to find a solution to install Android directly on SSD. If I will manage it, I will post it here. Ciao
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] saary:
I just reinstalled android on USB 3 drive. Major difference. FYI
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] nichitandrei:
Faster with USB 3 Drive

Thank you for pointing that out, that's why I recommend it in first post, of course it's faster and everything runs smoother.
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] GigaSPX:
Will this work on the Duo 13? I have one and although I think I have plenty enough Android devices (especially with Xperia Z2 tablet), it should work the same way since they're almost the same except under the hood, right?

Sent from my D6708
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] nichitandrei:
It should work, I can't see why not. Just try to follow the steps carefully and if there is anything that you don't know or you're not sure, is better to ask. Good luck
[Windows 8 Development and Hacking] justinsetsuna02:
Is this will work for any Wimdows PC? I have a Qube Colonia NB and I want to install android because i am hopless getting an android phone today so i hope You answer this Question ....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Daniel323la:
I'm running the Project Infinity rom with NF6 baseband... I actually got an OTA update from tmobile, I'm assuming it's the latest NG4 Update. What would happen if I go with the update? Will I lose root and just have to flash CF Auto? I don't care about Knox btw... Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] TheArtiszan:
Since you are actually running a custom rom, it probably wouldnt even flash or would fail to boot.

You are better off ignoring it and flashing the updated rom when it is released.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Daniel323la:
Ok I thought so.... Thanks!
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Antineutrino:
Hi guys...

I'm getting mad about this... :mad::confused::confused: Tried everything... I'm getting random issues while copying/moving large amount of files from/to external 64GB SD Card with EVERY file manager I tried . The error is ENOMEM. I used CM11 with Grimlock compatibility pack kernel, OmniRom with original kernel, with or without GApps installed.

An hint seems to be that even the media scanner service has problem during the boot as I can see into the logcat. It gets stat() errors on a lot of media files. :crying::crying::crying: Another strange issue is that I get those out of memory errors in the terminal emulator If I run the followinf commands

su

find / -name something

/storage/sdcard1/folder/file1.jpg: Out of memory

/storage/sdcard1/folder/file2.jpg: Out of memory

/storage/sdcard1/folder/file3.jpg: Out of memory

/storage/sdcard1/folder/file4.jpg: Out of memory

......

The SD has no problems because it works well on PC.

And the BAD thing is that I tried to put it on an Asus HD7 ME173X with Android 4.2.1 and it works flawlessly without any error. :confused::confused::confused: But the WORST thing is that I got the same errors on my I9000 with CM 10.2.1 stable release.

Perhaps Android > 4.3.x is the problem?

Because both omni and CM11 are based on the same sources, something maybe is corrupted in both?

Please help!
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Antineutrino:
Update ....

After a flashaholic hour I reverted back to CROMi-X 5.4 with GRIMLOCK 0.8 OC Kernel.

Surprise... IT WORKS....:laugh::good::highfive:

Really strange.... As CROMIi-x is based on 4.2.1 my supposition about Android version could be true...

:confused:
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Antineutrino:
Well Well Well.... I was getting mad about that, but...

At last I found the real issue....:victory::victory:

My external SD is formatted as exFAT FS and seems to be a it cannot be read correctly by CM11 ROMS.:silly:

Hints of this problem could be find just googling for 'CM11' and 'exFAT'. ;)
[Transformer TF300T Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fipsy:
I have the same issue on my Samsung Galaxy S3 with CM11 and a 64 GB exFAT SD-Card. You may format it with FAT32 and no problems occur but then you will not be able to store files larger than 4 GB anymore. If you often take HD videos this is inacceptable.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Barso1:
Is it possible to tell when my N5 was produced by the serial number?

Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Yes. The first few characters on the box.

311k = 2013, November

402k = 2014, February
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] *boy*racer*:
This is all I got on my box. Can't find any of them codes.

Any other ways?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pepdavies:
You can't see 408K on there?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IINexusII:
mine's 408K too
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] *boy*racer*:
Wow.... I need glasses lol. Thanks. Although it's not 402k like rootSU said

So does that mean i have the one with bigger holes for the speaker and mic?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wakamatsu:
Cool. Apparently, it's still being produced.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Eh? How would I know what is written on your box? Im not bloody psychic. I just gave you 2 examples

311k = 2013, November

402k = 2014, February

Logic follows that

312k = 2013, December

404k = 2014, April

406k = 2014, June

408k = 2014, ???? Anyone? Guess go on...

None of this has anything to do with speaker holes. They're either big or small and the only way to tell is to compare them to holes on multiple other devices. Its not important. Its not like it makes any difference to volume or anything
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] *boy*racer*:
Wow someone must of had a bad day. OK thanks for the info.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Had a great day, thanks for asking
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Barso1:
Thanks, mine is a 408K so I imagine that's 2014 August.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Yup.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grgana:
My is 403k..yust checked..

Sent from my Nexus 5

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Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Good to know. Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grgana:
[MENTION=2872010]rootSU[/MENTION] ; but what date would it be? Does it means that its produced in march of 2014??

Ps:XDA messed up my previous post so it looks like i quoted someine

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Yes

4=2014

03=March
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Van Wilder:
I need to know if I have the gen3 or gen 4 chipset.

I have a Cingular 8125, with

ipl 2.25.001

spl 2.25.001

gsm 02.25.11

os 2.25.11.1

It seems that gen 4 is supposed to/would be something like 2.25.0001. Or would gen 3 be like 2.25.01? :confused:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] _Nomad_:
you've got a G3

see this
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Van Wilder:
Wow, guess I am blind. Thanks for the help!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] WRMG3:
i second the thanks for the help. i guess i just wasn't looking or reading well enough. i guess i was just kinda skimming over stuff. i guess i don't have a g4 device but a g3 as my numbers are

ipl- 2.25.001

spl- 2.25.001

gsm- 02.25.11

os- 2.25.11.1

thanks nomad. looks like i have a lot more reading to do. i love this website, people are friendly and do help unlike some of the other places i've been
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] _Nomad_:
hehehe... haven't heard much of that today...

Just glad I could be of assistance;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] WRMG3:
yeah i read a thread last nite saying that this place is being over taken by noobs. which i can see that. i have only been here for a week and i know i have made some dumb threads and i know most of the guys on here are pretty knowledgeable with computers and programing but i'm not.

in the thread it said that some of the top guys here were getting sick of the noobs and are leaving, which sucks for all of us. i'm going to keep reading because i just have to understand how all this works, before i start to mod it or change the rom. mine is the g3 correct? just double checking :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Van Wilder:
Yes sir.......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] tailgunner9:
Anyone tell me where to get .tar file of TWRP Recovery. I lost mine installing Golden Eye so can not load my Recovery to go back. GooManager does not work. So need to flash with Odin. Or could I just install Stock 4.4.2 firmware??? Thanks.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] GuestX0019:
can you flash this thru your current recovery, if any?

https://dl-web.dropbox.com/get/Publ...ADH3Dvs3NXfWNJGFalrwVNlyZ2aAFX2Uefwo35VgblYCA

or--

http://www.teamw.in/project/twrp2/174

plus--

I think there is a TWRP Manager in PlayStore--
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] weritos:
LEWA OS V5 LG P713,715 (Dual sim) By Weritos​

What works?

Wi-fi

GPS

Ril

Root

Bluetooth

2G,3G

Display

All audio

Camera

Video recording

All sensors

Sending SMS messages

Internal and external memory

All features LEWA OS (Recording a conversation with the line)

Language: English, Chinese, Russian

Tweak init.d

What doesn't work?

You tell me

Sceenshots:

Install

1. Firmware on sdcard.

2. Run CWM Recovery

3. Wipe data/reset and Wipe cash partition

4. Install zip from sd card

5. Choose zip from sd card

6. Choose the firmware.

7. Yes - Install update

8. Wait install from sd card complete

9. Reboot system now

P.S In the status bar notification of corrupted memory, press OK, and agree on the format.

Is not show on others sites

Block download

REMOVED

You can contact me by e-mail weritos94@gmail.com

Donations developer:

Webmoney:Z335425717892

VISA card: 4693957110668857

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Work on porting Cyanogenmod 10
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] AngryGamer025:
I will test this rom on my p710. Looks good.

But what I am more excited for is that you are porting cm10. That would be awesome!

EDIT: I found that the p713 version works better with the p710 than the p715 version because of the physical button lay-out
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] weritos:
Firmware running on 710
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] AngryGamer025:
When I install this rom I dont get a setupwizzard. I go right away to the home screen. Is this on purpose or bugged?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] weritos:
Setupwizzard disabled
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] thenotonly:
3G

Am i wrong or is 3g unavailable on P713 version(did not test P715)

I'm also getting sdcard is safe to remove at boot when internal storage is set to default

Update:

internal storage still not being mounted, forced to use ext storage as default.

any fix for this problem?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] mbryszak:
installed LEWA OS and my P710 is so smooth and looks cool :) Tweak init.d is very useful, thank U very much weritos and im waiting for CM 10 :good:

PS. soon i ll donate U :highfive:
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] weritos:
3G works
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] sirion123:
This ROM good working in my P710 :) P.S. Do you shared the CM10 on this phone?

Sorry for my english, I 'm from Poland :D
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] weritos:
CM10 starts and runs, but there are still some problems
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] thenotonly:
Thanks

What about internal storage? ES file explorer shows my ext sd but internal is shown as unmounted.

Am I doing anything wrong?
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] weritos:
The internal memory is mounted and used by applications, but mount it in ES file explorer will not work. :o
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] thenotonly:
Any hints about how to mount it as sdcard0?

If possible can you tell me which line I should change and where it is located?

I'll do the rest.

Thanks for your hard work
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] AngryGamer025:
I am also annoyed by the fact that I can't use the internal storage and that I keep getting a notification about the phone storage being blank or unsupported.
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Wilky03:
issues??

u know something about softkey buttons???

is it laggy??? the last one was a little laggy, it's me or it's normal???

i tried to enable 3g in 2slot but it doesnt work... should i do something??

PS: good job weritos... now u're famous.. hello from Panamá xD
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] ositandroid:
great work!

I plan on flashing this today. can anyone post benchmark results as I want only speed. stock lg lags terribly.

how does this hold up?

camera samples too...

thanks
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Manu46:
Root your device first, install Root Explorer, Locate internal storage using root explorer, Go to option and unmount. Thanks!
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] weritos:
As regards the first, I do not understand you
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Sottam:
First of all, congratulations for This work!

About your LEWA OS, it seems like miui rom, is it based on miui?

Im asking it because i had some problems with miui rom, like stereo Bluetooth headset not working.

And, About your work About CM10 i am pretty anxious About testing it! Since i bought my Phone, i've been waiting for a CM release!

I have a p714, if you need a tester, you can count with my device to it!
[LG Optimus L3 II, L5 II, L7 II, L9 II] Mirko De Pauli97:
Which version should I use for my P710? The "P713 version" or the P715 one?
[G3 Themes and Apps] hector_k2:
Hi

how to unlimited bookmark in app voice recorder LG G3 Rooted?
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rimvis:
So I kinda soft-bricked my galaxy ace 2 i8160 and Samsung Kies doesn't help at all :( I go to odin download mode, plug phone to PC and after 5 minutes of thinking, it says (device not responding, to resolve the issue, reboot the device). Can someone help me get back to pure firmware 2.3.6 or 4.1.2? I've now installed 4.1.2 jellybean and it's stuck on loading screen. I've tried both cyanogenmod 10.2 and 11, my phone couldn't detect sim card contacts and couldn't make a call, it says turn off plane mode, even if it's off...
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rimvis:
nevermind... thanks guys... I just recovered my phone using instructions in this link...: http://www.droidviews.com/how-to-downgrade-galaxy-ace-2-gt-i8160-to-gingerbread-from-android-4-1-2/
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] Umang96:
You can say bye bye to your stock rom because Cleankat is here, this is stock aosp based super light, fast, and 100% stable rom with many improvements like battery and ram management. Only 170mb and one of the most used rom on mt6582 chipset :)

!! Warning: This ROM is only for MMX A120, WIKO RAINBOW and MP RIO V2/V1, if you flash it on anything else, you will brick your device !!

INSTRUCTIONS TO FLASH CWM-

1.Download this recovery package

2.In sptools, select scatter file, then untick everything below except recovery

3.Click download button in sptools

4.Now you have sucessfully updated your recovery :fingers-crossed:

ROM FEATURES-

1.Based on latest mmx KK, so it's totally bugfree

2.Better battery life than other KK ROMs, stock kernel

3.Themed to real white complete kitkat, see screenshots

4.Added data traffic monitor in settings, you can toggle it

5.Added 13 new battery icon styles in settings, ported from carbon rom

6.Added battery icon and percentage in notification header, it's useful

7.Themed all icons to beautiful AOSP/NEXUS also removed 3G icon

8.ROM is not rooted, need to flash root zip, see attachments

9.Deodexed /app, /priv-app, /framework for faster app opening speed

10.Wonderful dolby digital sound with equalizer, see download section

11.Build.prop tweaks and init.d tweaks, working ones only

12.Android 4.4.4 easter egg and build prop, fake (4.4.2)

13.Beautiful Cleankat lockscreen, screenshot attached

14.Beautiful Cleankat bootanimation and bootlogo

15.Cleankat music player, advanced calculator and browser

16.Added notes widget for homescreen, useful for many users

17.Cyanogenmod clock widget with working weather

18.Init.d tweaks, vaccuming, loopy smoothness, zipaligned on boot

19.Launcher plus kk as default launcher app, you can install any launcher

20.Added Cleankat white themed file manager based on FO manager

21.ROM can be flashed on any base, MMX_IN_10 , WIKO BASE , STOCK JB

22.Lightest and cleanest rom ever with added all these features, 170mb only :victory:

INSTRUCTION TO FLASH ROM-

1.If you have already flashed a custom recovery then only proceed

2.Place ROM in your sdcard

3.Wipe data/factory reset

4.No need to wipe other things, script will do it

5.Install zip from sdcard and select cleankat

8.Reboot and enjoy :D

DOWNLOADS-

CLEANKAT V4.1 WIKO BASE

CLEANKAT V4.0 FOTA BASE

CLEANKAT V4.0 RIO BASE

DOLBY FLASHABLE ZIP

PERFECT_ROOT.ZIP

SCREENSHOTS_HD_(latest V4.0)

Here is a video review of Cleankat V4.1 by [MENTION=4496831]smokerman[/MENTION]-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyp-fMZRSsU

XDA:DevDB Information

CleanKAT ROM, ROM for the Android General

Contributors

umangleekha

Source Code: http://no source

ROM OS Version: 4.4.x KitKat

ROM Kernel: Stock Kernel

ROM Firmware Required: S5501BP_MP_MMX_IN_10 OR STOCK JELLYBEAN 4.2.2

Based On: S5501BP_MP_MMX_IN_10

Version Information

Status: Stable

Current Stable Version: V4.0

Stable Release Date: 2015-02-13

Created 2014-10-12

Last Updated 2015-02-13
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] Umang96:
Changelogs

Reserved
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] qwerfaseeh:
Can we get FOTA updates in Pakistan on QMobile i9 if we install the stock MMX JB ROM?
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] Umang96:
Maybe, try it, you can always come back to mmx kk
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] qwerfaseeh:
i installed jellybean mmx and i got 2 updates one was preparation file for kitkat and after restart i got new update which take a lot of time and after it is installed which is kitkat, after restart the boot logo was ok but from boot animation screen goes dim from corners and there was no display and i done this 2 times and same reult.
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] qwerfaseeh:
can you make this official FOTA update flashable for Clones like QMobile i9 etc ?
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] sulemankhan18:
Cleankat V2.0 not working

[MENTION=4279499]umangleekha[/MENTION]

I've been following your posts since I got this device and I've also been installing all the roms that you created for this device.

That's really superb job as all of them were working:good:. But, your recent release Cleankat V2.0 is not working. It installs well and the device also boots up and shows language select option. But then I get error as "Unfortunately, setup wizard has stopped working" and device shows only battery icon on the screen(where it usually shows) and nothing else can be seen.

I've tried rebooting and cleaning everything and rebooting, but no luck.:crying:

Please check into this once.
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] Umang96:
I know that bug, fixed now in V2.1
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] zeusseuz:
Trying this now...this is the new version which juat finished right?

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how long does this take to boot everything up?
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] sulemankhan18:
I've been waiting for this. Will try it right away and give u feedback:D

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As of right now, everything works just amazing and loved that partition app.

Thanks
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] sulemankhan18:
Update:

I've observed that ad free hosts are not working. Please check into that once.
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] alvin.durant:
Thank you so much for this ROM. So far, so good!
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] qwerfaseeh:
Please aslo make it work on clones
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] Umang96:
Latest kernel won't work eith clones, will update ckat 1.3 with different kernel, flashable over old kk
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] qwerfaseeh:
Thanks dear if i replace the kernal in clean kat v2.1 with old one will it work ?

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I found explay fresh's ROM named Fresh v3 as best ROM for clones as all the Sensors are working perfect on it but the only issue i faced is it does not use memory card at all App Data, DCIM folders are all in Internal Memory, but there is an option to select internal or external storage in storage settings but if i select memory card it still uses internal, is there any patch ?
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] ktsarlz:
Does this v2.2 can be flashed from KK? or still have to revert to JB?
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] zeusseuz:
youd have to revert ko jb mate,then flash this over
[Micromax A120 Canvas 2 Colors] sulemankhan18:
Actually I thought Newer is Better and I was following this post. Now I'm on V2.1

Which one should I install, V2.2 or V2.2a on the other post?