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[Galaxy Note 4 General] EViLOPTiC:
The answer is yes AND no, lol.....

The new Exynos chipset moves to 64-bit processing with four Cortex-A57 cores and four Cortex-A53. Those are the successors to the 32-bit A15 and A7 respectively but implement the ARMv8-A instructions set (same as Apple's Cyclone cores). The Snapdragon 805 uses 32-bit Krait 450 cores.

Source: http://www.gsmarena.com/exynos_5433powered_samsung_galaxy_note_4_benchmarked-news-9406.php

The O/S is still 32-bit so its all going to operate at 32-bit i cannot see Samsung releasing Android 5.0 LMP just for one of the 2 models of the Note 4 roll on next year's Note 5
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Is it worth upgrading from a S3 to Note 4 /Edge ? Or should we wait other new upcoming smartphones maybe some of them have exynos cpu 64bit ?and are bbeter than the note 4
[Galaxy Note 4 General] madushan92:
Water resistance. That is the only set back for me, I was planing to upgrade this year. Still have no idea until I see the phone myself.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] almaalma74:
note 4 RAM is faster (vs. Note 3) 14GB/s => 25GB/s, I guess it helps a little on smoother app switching
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Source?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] js0uth:
rear speaker was the cherry on top not to upgrade... no water resistance, rear speaker fail, pretty much same form factor, taller and heavier. Only upgrade is the screen, cpu and camera.

sad to say ill be holding on to my note 3 a little longer. and when november rolls around itll be my first phone ive use for a WHOLE year! :victory:. lol. for me, that actually says a lot about this phone.

im hoping HTC comes out with their phablet later on this year. those front facing speakers...... :good:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gtalum:
I'm still using a Note 2, so the potential upgrade is substantial.

That said I'm primarily disappointed in the lack of IP67 water resistance and the 32 bit SoC.

The downgrade back to usb 2.0 makes sense to me and I don't really transfer any data to or from the phone via usb anyway. The only time I remember having it connected to my pc was for the initial root and unlock way back in November 2012.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] BlueChris:
I hold back myself mainly for the water resistant part even though i only liked the OIS.

Damn samsung the pen is not an excuse for not water resist this phone, they could had easily made the last 3-4 mm of the pen rubber and a tiny bit wider and when you were sliding it in the hole the it was water resist in there. I am ridding a bike and that was a must have. I stay with my note 3 till next year for sure.

send from my N9005 with tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Simone:
I bought the S5 as a temporary replacement of my broken Note 2 as I waited for the release of the Note 4. Looks like I'm going permanent for a while in the S5 thread :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Don't understand why everyone is pointing the most obvious fact in mobile industry :rolleyes:

If you have a Note 3, you will obviously find it tough to justify upgrad to Note 4. It was same for S4 -> S5, and it will be same for Note 4 -> Note 5. Note 3 is already a good phone, and to justify an upgrade to Note 4 is asking a lot. The value is when you have 2-yr gap between the upgrades or more. Someone upgrading from S4, Note 2 will find a big difference.

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] sonhy:
not always true mate, i never use cases unless i do water sports or diving. my phone doesn't look new or pretty, but i know it's damn beautiful inside :D
[Galaxy Note 4 General] d12unk13astard:
The upgrade to note1 to note2 than to note3 were all substantial enough for most people. Note4 has very weak spec upgrades but if you did skip the note 3 and own the note2 id say its time to upgrade to the...... Note 3!!! Because it will be cheaper than note 4 and you wont be missing out on much that the note3 already offers and will be getting when our devs port all tje features of note 4 tw ui. Samsung got cheap on us all, first with the weak s5 launch than with the note 4/edge reveal.

SMH Samsung...SMH
[Galaxy Note 4 General] tft:
i would of considered the N4 if it had water resistance and better speakers., everything else is prefect though.. my real pet peeve with ALL samsung phones is the sound is lackluster.. how hard it is to throw two additional speakers in the front? i mean the bezel at the top and bottom are obviously big enough to support it. they should give up on adding any more additional senors and focus on other important areas..
[Galaxy Note 4 General] CLARiiON:
Again you are repeating the same exact thing every fan talks about after release of a new model. You will repeat the same dialogue when they will release Note 5. Note 5 will also not have too many stuffs that would make everyone upgrade from Note 4. The days of yearly upgrades are done.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] jreuschl:
While I am disappointed in the lack of water resistance, those that complain it isn't enough of an upgrade.. What more did you expect? We have gotten to the point that phones are so advanced that there has to be a really creative addition to make it special. Edge is an example of that.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] d12unk13astard:
They were focusing on 2 differrent notes instead of just 1 which is why there both garbage products. How much you wanna bet the note 4 and edge fail to beat the sales of note 3 even combined together. Samsung is not listening to what we the consumers are asking for: 5.9 screen,better speakers,64gb onboard storage,4gb ram(which android l supports)which is a huge mistake given were the ones paying 800+ for these flagship phones. To hell with extra sensors and QHD resolution(on a 5.7 screen no thanks) those are gimmicks imho
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gypsy214:
I think it is just perfect. Coming for a G2 I was waiting for the Note 4 to see if it's a better upgrade for me than the G3..

Camera is a huge upgrade for me.. 16MP with OIS!! My G2 was one of the best camera phones of 2013 and some of 2014 all because of that OIS. And I hated that G3 is still 13MP but laser auto focus is just a gimmick.

I dont really cared for the water resistant as you can use a better case or for a quick away a plastic bag. You dont need to swim with it.

As USB 3.0 I would have agree that it could be a downgrade but there most have been something they decided to change it. (Maybe because it was cheaper)

Also I'm glad it still have that same screen size. I never owned a note series because always seen them big and if it were bigger then it would have looked ridiculous in my opinion.

After all it wont be a matter of time that most of these extras features will be ported to the S5.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] cinciopillo:
I agree
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Rippley05:
I'm really not trying to be a jerk, but come on. There are only a handful of people that want the screen to get bigger. There are so many tablets out there that can satisfy the needs of people who need a backpack sized mobile device. 5.7 is the max size, especially with those bezels.

64gb onboard storage. I can understand this point.

4GB ram. This would only look good on paper, it simply will not even be noticed. Maybe it will in the future..but why are people wanting a futureproof device that they aren't keeping more than a year anyway?

Better speakers. Agree

QHD. I disagree. It's gonna look amazing on Samsungs Amoled screens. 4gb Ram is more gimmicky than QHD at this point.

Internet is where people can just be unhappy, it is what it is. We aren't going to get major upgrades every year. There's just nothing left. People can't say QHD is overkill in the same paragraph they ask for 4GB of ram. Maybe you guys should just consider not upgrading. Do you upgrade your TV every year? Computer? Car? Each year better versions are made for all of these, and the upgrades are minimal.

I'm more upset over seeing the same god awful icons and the fact that I'll probably need to use Nova launcher (which kills stock widgets that I personally find useful) in order to fit more icons on this huge screen. I like Touchwiz, but it does need a little dumbing down. I'm upset that there will be no bootloader unlocks on Samsung devices ever again. These are more valid concerns IMO.

And I do understand that some people live in the rain or whatever the heck they're doing that makes them so upset that the Note isn't waterproof. My question is, how many phones have you guys honestly ruined because of rain? I use my phone in the rain and never have issue...but maybe some of you guys do. I'm not all that upset over not having it, but it would have been nice. Maybe it's the stylus pocket, who knows.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
I semi-agree with you. I own a SGS3 and thinking getting a Note 4 or Note Edge it still is a big upgrade for me coming from an S3 but I dont think that would be worth it (no 64bit cpu,maybe no Android L upgrade) I will wait a little and see what other brands have to offer.

As for the usb 2.0 downgrade I dont believe they did it because its cheaper. I bought a pci-e USB 3.0 expansion card for my pc for just 12euro. Im sure samsung can get usb 3.0 cards for just 1-2 dollars from china

I wanted the note for the feauture that lets you capture pictures and make them editable text
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gypsy214:
Remember 64 bit is so new. I don't think Qualcomm has released it yet (correct me if I'm wrong) As Android L goes it doesn't mean it will only work on 64 bit. It supports it but it will still support others. Look at that N5 it doesn't have a chip 64 bit and still have android L.

USB 3.0 can be cheaper but were talking about making more metal frame here. I always seem Samsung on upgrading stuff on their smartphones and not downgrading. If they did not use usb 3.0 there have to be a reason.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Snapdragon 810 is 64bit and HTC Desire 820 will have 64bit cpu (snapdragon 610)

So yea HTC maybe release another new M8 (M9 maybe?) With 64bit processor..

Be patient my friends.. we will have to wait and see
[Galaxy Note 4 General] busab:
I wish that all versions of the Note 4 had the exynos processor like the note 2 did. But that's my only minor gripe.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] patriotaki:
Yea samsung have their own cpu's why do they use different brand cpu's? Lol
[Galaxy Note 4 General] NLS:
1) Why SPen makes water resistance harder? Everybody said so. So why? SPen is completely separate from the devide. So just a hole in the mold (not going inside the electronics at all) is fine.

2) The removable back is not a problem either. S5 is IP67 with removable back cover.

3) The home button also houses the fingerprint scanner.

4) People keep talking about Android L. WTF people? It's most probably not ready for October. It is 100% sure that it WILL be upgraded to Android L. Don't forget Nexus has to get it first.

5) 50% in 30min is no gimmick. And yes it DOES NOT mean 100% in an hour. It's just a charging mode that "rushes" (in simple terms) quite a bit of juice in a nearly empty battery. NOT in a semi-full battery. But is a perfectly fine feature when you are in a rush, getting 50% in 30min is a life saver. Also the low-power mode is a fantastic feature.

Erm... So? And S5 is where all S before it, were not.

Ha... you haven't seen the Nexus I've seen. Lags like sh*t even after factory reset.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] lovekeiiy:
I don't think there's really any major item with the Note 4/Edge.

Overall, I liked what they're overall what they are including with the phone. My biggest disappointment with it was that they did not make screen a little bigger. I was hoping it was going to be in the 5.9" to 6.5" range. I know that big is not everyone's cup of tea. I just don't use the phone feature that much. I look at smartphones more like pocketsized laptops since I use it for more web applications. I just think it's so much easier to see with the larger screen. With these size phones, I just don't see a need/want for a tablet that isn't at least a ten inch screen size. I really don't it would be that much less pocket unfriendly than the 5.7". I assume the Galaxy Mega and the other larger Galaxy phone didn't do very well with may be why they didn't increase the size more. But didn't give the phones a lot of latest hardware, just a big screen.

I think it would have been nice to have 4GB RAM. Not so much because it's a must have. Like a PC, more ram can make things run a bit more snappy since it's faster than trying to get data for storage. I can see this being very useful with multiwindow being used. I can see it being nice for some of the more demanding games, since I assume, the GPU and CPU are sharing ram.

More internal storage is always nice. I think with smartphones, 32GB is pretty much a bare minimum, especially since profiles changed how the storage is organized so being able to move apps to the SD card. Although, I think it's great Samsung is still including the microSD card expansion slot.

I'm a bit indifferent about the QHD screen. I like it and I'm sure it'll look very good. Give even more crisp viewing.

USB3 would have been nice. I don't have many devices to make use of it. Overall, unless you're moving a lot data, it's not that big of issue.

Softwarewise, I didn't give a big hoot. I root ASAP and use a bunch of third apps. At some point, I usually go AOSP. Although, I only more recently went AOSP with the Note II. Deoxidized, rooted stock with fulfilling my needs and wants quite well. Of course, I thought stock was way too bloated, but I removed most of it. I expect to do the same thing with the Note 4.

The water resistance. is interesting. I never had a water issue. But it would be nice for those with endure the elements such as rain. I assume those who need water resistance are probably going to buy the heavy duty protection cases, so it may not really be needed.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] sonyfan12:
All praise the sony camera. Did you like this yellowness faded and vague photo and video?

http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2014/08/4852cf32c73ac8ec285af5208a61ef0e.jpg

http://www.mobile-review.com/review/lenovo-vibe-z2.shtml#s7 (in lenovo isocell camera which should be in note4)

http://www.4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=515584&st=860#entry30435226

http://blog.gsmarena.com/weekend-poll-samsung-galaxy-s5-vs-sony-xperia-z2/

http://i.minus.com/iykeN9YJNectJ.jpg (sony cameras)

http://s7.hostingkartinok.com/uploads/images/2014/08/57f72f2f5d1ee2e1d60a38236f0d10c2.jpg (samsung and nokia cameras)

s5

g3 (sony camera)

http://pp.vk.me/c618826/v618826401/95e9/7bw7hDlOdSg.jpg

http://pp.vk.me/c618826/v618826401/95e2/NMeVKQWoFs0.jpg

http://pp.vk.me/c614824/v614824401/15efd/3awlVBQMNfo.jpg

http://pp.vk.me/c614824/v614824401/15ef4/hCockYiBow4.jpg

http://pp.vk.me/c619218/v619218401/ad50/vZosnbAwfNo.jpg

http://pp.vk.me/c619218/v619218401/ad49/TX4mRgFNq3I.jpg

http://blog.gsmarena.com/weekend-poll-lg-g3-vs-samsung-galaxy-s5/

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...one-5s-LG-G2-Sony-Xperia-Z2-HTC-One-M8_id3728

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sams...hird-time-in-a-row-LG-G3-close-second_id57178

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Sony-Xperia-Z2-vs-Samsung-Galaxy-S5_id3699/page/3

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yellowness faded and vague already visible

http://blog.gsmarena.com/official-samsung-galaxy-note-edge-note-4-camera-samples/
[Galaxy Note 4 General] apprentice:
This water resistance debate is a puzzle to me. Firstly it adds cost to the device, you get ugly inconvenient USB covers and really... do we drop our phones in water that much to be so paranoid? I have seen videos where non waterproof devices still work after being in a washing machine! With the S-Pen also comes challenges for waterproofing. It really isn't a deal breaker.

The USB 3 debate... it has nothing to do with charging, it has everything to do with transfer speed. But even though my Note 3 has USB 3, I rarely plug a USB 3 cable into it. I won't really miss that.

My disappointment is the speaker. Two would have been a great addition but the one they have supplied is not in a good place.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] NLS:
What makes you say that it adds cost to the device?

The rubber band on the inside of the cover? Or the tiny plastic cover for the USB? (nothing else needs to be covered) Also the Stylus can always be in a slot virtually OUTSIDE the cirtcuits (no connection whatsoever).

The cost difference for the company hardly is over $2 total.

You think Z2 and Z3 cost as much as they cost because they are waterproof else would be cheaper? Or S5? Think again.

I explained my "paranoia" about water resistance a couple of posts above.

There are things people will never use (like the heart-rate sensor or the UV sensor... nice geek factor, to show your friends the first few days, then forget they exist - a proper heart-rate sensor is on a smartwear something, always on you) and things that WILL be used if they are there (like being waterproof and use it in rain, or even for underwater photos) OR will only be needed once and for this "once", will justify their existance (like waterproof in a water accident or like ABS for veehicles).
[Galaxy Note 4 General] nemesis93:
I'm surprised/disappointed they did not water/dust proof this phone like they did with the s5.

This is samsungs most expensive line of phones. They should come with the very best features.

It would've been perfect if it had 4gb of ram, exynos 64 bit everywhere not just korea, 32gb storage base model, and a larger battery at least 3400mah.

That being said, I'm happy they went with the metal frame for a more premium look/feel. I will still be upgrading to it because I feel like its time to upgrade my t889.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Why would anyone go out on a bike in the rain on purpose anyway lol...whether you mean bicycle or motorbike same diff....take your car...stay dry?

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gtalum:
Sometimes rain shows up unexpectedly. ;)

Also, if you are training for an event you can't skip training rides or runs just because it's raining.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] edem84:
Hi,

Yes it works on the Note 3 !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] force70:
Yeah that unexpectedly thing really sucks lol.

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AOWS:
Disappointed ,

No USB3, no Water resistance, Speakers on the back, Not a 64bit support and still 3GB RAM,

NOTE 3 IS PERFECT I WILL SKIP THIS ONE AND WAIT FOR NOTE 5, BUT STILL HOPE THERE'S PREMIUM VERSION HAVE ALL THE MISSING FUTURES

I have questions, what is new in GPS and what is the TBC radio, and SpO2?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] gtalum:
SpO2 is an oxygen sensor. Beidu is China's version of GPS. I have no idea what TBC is.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] frans23:
To Be Confirmed
[Galaxy Note 4 General] AOWS:
Thanks gtalum and frans23
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Jiyeon90:
That's what I thought before I bought a z1, you really need to own a waterproof device to understand how important that feature is.

I was 99% sure I was gonna get the note 4, but I'm very dissapointed with it so I'll just get a Z2 or Z3, it's a shame coz I really wanted a big screen [emoji20]

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Galaxy Note 4 General] subcola:
But, you can still use usb 2.0.on samsung's 3.0 port
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Rintenfinten:
Nice phone, I definitely wanted to buy it until I realised that it does not support my 128GB SDXC. This is really a shame Samsung !
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tholos:
charging circuit

Does the Note 4 support wireless charging?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
nope
[Galaxy Note 4 General] Tholos:
Speaker quality

How does the speaker sound quality compare with Note 3 & SG5?
[Galaxy Note 4 General] bipoler:
O_o

What I'm not following is why so many people are in shambles befuddled because there is no water resistant. ......I'm sure you've been riding a bike, and top all of you complaining about the 4 not having it. ... If you have any varient of the note series. ....your seem to be b making it just fine without water resistant. .....

"I'M not buying a phones latest version because it doesn't have water resistant. ... YET the version or heckb phone I do carry itself does NOT have feature I'm complaining about. ..... yet I don't posses the intelligence to I don't know, buy a phone that has this feature I so desperately say I need lol"

-the note 3 and 4 do look the same and we ALL do NOT put a case on our devices
[Galaxy Note 4 General] wase4711:
we'll let you know in 6 weeks once someone here actually owns one
[Galaxy Note 4 General] ewingr:
Somewhat disappointed, but likely will get one...

Why disappointed? One is it does not meet the several rumors that it would be 4 GB memory. Of course current Android doesn't support that...but it will soon.

Doesn't meet several of the things that the S5 has.

I am very disappointed that the speaker is on the back side. At least it's on the bottom on the 3, but I have no idea if that is really better or not.

I tend to install a LOT of apps, and that ends up using more memory, and slows the phone down. I'm on an SGS 3, and it's pretty good, but becoming challenged. Only reason it's not unbearable is because of the custom ROM. But I'm ready to stop with custom ROMS, as there is ALWAYS something that doesn't work right.

Disappointed in the lack of water resistance. I tend to drop them in the toilet :rolleyes: . But, I'm not nearly as upset about lack of water resistance as some other folks.

I don't know if I should be disappointed in this: the change of aspect ratio (ie narrower/taller). One thing I'm looking forward to is more real estate for larger text. Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems to me that wider phones rather than taller ones will accommodate larger text better.

I don't know what the battery life will be like. Was hoping for maybe a bit more battery capacity. But, it may do well. I think my wife's Note 2 does better on battery than my SGS 3. But I do worry about the new screen requiring more battery, and then making it worse on battery. I have a 4500 in the SGS 3...would like to stop adding the bigger batteries.

I was hoping for native wireless charging, but didn't expect it.

<sarcasm>Oh, did I say I was disappointed in the back speaker?</sarcasm>

All that being said, it'll be a great upgrade for me from the SGS 3. I am a bit anxious to get one. But, I may hold off until I rooting is available.
[Galaxy Note 4 General] fffft:
Disappointed about a lot of Samsung design decisions lately. In particular that the Note 4 isn't going to have the IP57 water resistant feature like the S5. That will keep me from buying a N4.

The Note 4 isn't much of an upgrade from a Note 3. Samsung isn't really breaking any new ground and has only made a handful of minor refinements. Seems like Samsung is losing their way and if the next Note has the inferior Tizen rather than Android as Samsung hopes to do.. then they've lost me as a customer period.

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[Galaxy Note 4 General] apprentice:
I suggest you look at the waterproofing technology, if you naively think it's just a case of fitting a rubber band then think again. It involves bonding all the internal components with a nano coating, the costs are not in materials but in manufacturing, testing and design processes.

I agree that a watch is something you would swim in, and it's why most wrist watches and smartwear are waterproofed. I still firmly believe that most smartphone owners are not going to go scuba diving or swimming with their phone in hand, most are going to put their expensive technology somewhere safe away from risks like water submersion. As for accidents, if you prize your tech so much you'd have it insured anyway which should cover your misfortune.

I for one am not going to cry about the exclusion of waterproofing and as I said earlier I absolutely hate those USB gasket covers - so I am happy about that.