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[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
You'll need more than that if you have a 9-3:

Dash kit and cage - http://www.nexxia.co.uk/product.asp...=Saab Double Din Fascia&product_code=CT23SA03

Line-level adapter - http://www.nexxia.co.uk/product.asp...O Radio Harness Adaptors&product_code=PC9-415

CAN bus adapter - http://www.nexxia.co.uk/product.asp...talk Control Adapters&product_code=CTSSA001.2

CAN bus adapter adapter - http://www.nexxia.co.uk/product.asp...=CT Stalk Adaptors&product_code=CTCHINAHULEAD

Dual RCA adapters - http://www.ebay.com/itm/1-One-Femal...apter-Connector-for-Audio-Cable-/221181841106

The Saab uses the iBus for everything; it has no acc wire, no illumination lead, no speed pulse lead, there isn't even any switched power anywhere inside the dash - it's all done with network messages. So without the CAN bus stuff you can power it on but that's about it - no illumination, no GALA, no power on/off with the car, no SWC, etc.

Once you have all this stuff, you'll need to cut off the ISO plugs from the adapters and connect them to the harness from the Newsmy. The end result is a mass of wires and plastic boxes about the size of a grapefruit, and you'll have to (carefully) tuck it to the right of the radio, where there's a space just big enough (above the glove box). I decided to put my Android box in the center console, where the factory phone mount goes, so I can easily change peripherals if need be, and put a USB mic between the seats above the cupholder (the little sliding door has to stay open). I just left the GPS antenna stuck to the top of the radio and it's working great there.

To mount the radio in the dash, you need to assemble the cage into the dash kit, bend the tabs back to hold it in place, and then snap the trim ring into the kit before you put the radio in. You'll need to use an angle grinder to grind off the six little metal ears that stick out from the Newsmy because they prevent it from sliding into the cage. Be very careful when you do this, because there is an exposed ribbon cable about 5mm from one of the ears. Once you've ground them off, you can slide the Newsmy into the cage from behind and push it all the way to it's flush with the trim ring in front. There are no screw holes that line up, so mine is held in place with duct tape wrapped around the cage/Newsmy. It's a tight fit in the cage and the dash, so it's not going anywhere.

Sometimes I wish I had kept my Golf.
[Android Head-Units] Ekki_221:
My Newsmy NU3001 came with an ISO cable so there is no need for cutting the ISO-plugs.

Just plug the ISOs together (Canbus adapter <-> NU3001), wire the additionally needed signals to the AV-IN plug, and you are done.

Regards,

Ekki
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
Thanks for all the information you are posting. On my Mondeo the SWC for the radio are a resistive ladder which are a bit temperamental to be honest and something i need to fix ... it will either be the switches, connections, clock-spring/squib etc. I'm just slightly confused about what the Ford Canbus standard is and what it needs converting to for this head unit to work. I'm hoping that if I get the correct one then it maybe to to sniff the canbus (not sure there is an android app), determine the commands being used and maybe write some apps to provide additional functionality. I currently have my eye on a connects 2 harness with a canbus decoder/breakout but I'm not sure whether this will be compatible.

Edit : Just to add, I'm not sure if these decoders (maybe implied by its name) just interprets the canbus messages and breaks out to phyisical cables for illumination, ignition feed etc or whether they convert the canbus format into something the head unit recognises. Also by the fact its called decoder I'm not sure you can send messages back onto the canbus so that it would be possible to write some apps to control things on the car.

As you can guess I'm really new to this canbus stuff.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
I don't know how Ford canbus work.

In be canbus is bidireccional can send and receive signals.

About decoders are various types.

One that only Interpret for the unit

and other that interpret signals and also provide needed leads for ignition, dashboard lights, speed...

I'm not an expert In canbus. But is what I understand from all that I readed and learned
[Android Head-Units] cyrilp:
A new way to control you HU :)

Hi all, i have good news for you !

I have implemented a new feature in my app SWApp Link that allow me to capture touch and gesture action from anywhere (it's an overlay transparent window with invisible active areas). So far i have implemented it on my wear version to launch shortcuts when swiping from an edge.

But on the Head Unit we can imagine other things, such as making a narrow active area on one side of the screen an use gesture down/up to control the volume, the brightness, change tracks ....

Given the size of the screen i will be able to set more than one of those on the side, depending on where you start your gesture it will control something else.

What do you think about this ?

i'll start to work on it when i received my unit, i have ordered it in spain a week ago.

Cyril
[Android Head-Units] spoks:
I had 9-3 same time ago, but not any more :)

I have Honda CR-V 06, and there are considerably easier "plug-and-play" with right ISO connectors.

Just one thing couldn't find locally - GPS connector, to use Honda's built gps antenna. Waiting from ebay now.

Btw, what for is speed pulse signal. Do HU3001 can use it for any purpose?

I've got my unit without ANY manual, description of wires etc. There even were no connectors label on unit housing.

There was just small booklet for Android box in connection with CE unit (???!!!).

So, had to find out everything from scratch by myself.
[Android Head-Units] nestortoledo:
Some days ago i was looking into play store fore something like this.

A app that allow me to configure gestures con any parte of the screen. to adjust volumen, change tracks, or launch app

So i really like the idea much interested on it
[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
Mine didn't. So there is.
[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
That sounds kinda awesome!

The first thing that comes to mind is maybe adding some additional control areas to the navbar at the bottom of the screen, it's mostly unused.
[Android Head-Units] alaninsitges:
GALA (auto volume control). They might use it for GPS nav as well, I don't know.
[Android Head-Units] Ekki_221:
Unlikely...

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[Android Head-Units] wacko37:
Summer has confirmed that my 8" unit will be shipped tomorrow, placed the order about 2 weeks ago but has been out of stock.

Hope this helps others waiting on arrival of the 8" device. Cant wait:o
[Android Head-Units] welshblob:
Wonder if the 2GB Android box will work with the nu3001 ? I might have to ask Summer.
[Android Head-Units] red13dotnet:
Actually, I think it controls master volume. If so it will affect nav volume.

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Possible
[Android Head-Units] Ekki_221:
I meant Navigation positioning via VSS, not volume.

Possible, but very unlikely implemented in any known Android-Navigation app...

If you know a navgiation app with vss support, let us know...

Regards,

Ekki

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Good News,

so is the Android box sold seperately?
[Android Head-Units] red13dotnet:
No, pretty sure that it is not used for gps positioning, only speed-sensitive volume control.. my mistake, thought you were talking about the volume... that's Monday for you :eek:
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
A couple of us with NR units have a problem where USB power is lost immediately following removal of ACC power. So apps for dash cams or using external hard drives crash/become unhappy. Curious if NU boxes suffer the same issue or do attached devices go into standby gracefully? Thanks.
[Android Head-Units] Dream Reality Syndrome:
I believe it's recommended to install a self powered hub to avoid this problem. Plus some accessories benefit from the extra amperage and stability of consistent power

I have my hub hardwired, and with a built in relay it shuts itself off after a certain timeframe so as to not kill my battery. Of course, every time you turn the key off android will most likely cut the connection to the USB peripherals, but at least the hub will keep them powered until you turn the key back on, by which time android will (hopefully) reconnect with USB
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
I've got a self powered hub built for car environments but it shuts down the ports when the feed signal from the NR is lost.
[Android Head-Units] Dream Reality Syndrome:
Try to install a relay. Does your hub have 12v connections for accessory and constant wires?
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
It does. It is this one: https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B004NDU37A/ref=oh_aui_i_d_old_o0_img?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Android Head-Units] boschie:
Well, as this could be a option, it's not a desirable one. When i create a different account i won't have the contacts, email and calendar of myself.

And if i copy the data to the car's account then the security issues still remain.
[Android Head-Units] Dream Reality Syndrome:
"The P5USB includes an Shutdown Delay jumper which can be set to allow the P5USB to remain on for either 5 minutes or 25 minutes after the Ignition is turned off. This prevents the loss of USB connectivity during short stops if the PC is left running."

- according to the product page on mp3car found here
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
On the hub in question if you lose the USB signal it shuts down regardless of ignition setting. I don't know enough about Android but if a PC is hooked up and it goes into sleep mode the USB hub stays powered, but not the case when the NR goes into standby.
[Android Head-Units] alexfry:
NR5261 vs NR7002

I'm thinking about getting a CarPad 3 for a 2012 Passat soon.

Firstly, is this still the right head unit to buy in the second half of 2016?

Not bleeding edge, but well understood and competent?

Secondly, does anyone have anything strong opinions about:

NR5261 - standard VW head unit shape with 8 inch display, hardware short cuts and physical volume knobs

vs

NR7002 - Passat specific 10 inch unit, basic left edge touch controls only.

My other car is a 2000 Miata with a touch only Alpine iLX007, and frankly I find touch only controls super annoying, But the Passat will have physical volume and skip controls on the steering wheel, so I don't think I'll miss the volume knob quite as much. And for NAV, bigger can only be better right?

Any there any other things I'm not taking into account? Weird key combos needed for hard resets? Does xdaAuto behave better on one or the other.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Maybe I am confused, but would you not select the one that fits the opening? They are quite different shapes. With xdAuto I am quite happy with our NR3001s but with still one are two niggling issues. If I was buying today the other unit I would consider instead is the indash.net (see thread on xda). Still in early stages with bugs but they seem to be getting sorted out.
[Android Head-Units] alexfry:
They both fit.

The smaller 8 inch unit fits in the standard VW form factor radio slot, which the then surrounded by a factory (car specific) bezel to fill out the rest of the space.

The larger 10 inch unit replaces that bezel area as well (and is specifically shaped for Passat/CC/Magotan)
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Well then I think it's up to you. Buttons or more screen space. Are you going to check out in dash.net?
[Android Head-Units] alexfry:
I'm certainly taking a look at them, and Joying.

In-dash are significantly more expensive, and they're VW units make less physical sense to me, small screen if you want volume knobs (newsmy seem to pack a bigger screen in and retain the volume knobs.)

Joying seem to be somewhere in the middle, well supported, but everyone seems to say the Bluetooth calling is rubbish.

There just doesn't seem to be a real slam dunk anywhere.

I'd get another Alpine, if only they would come to the party with car specific bezels and physical controls.
[Android Head-Units] Psy87:
Is it possible to insert an micro SD into NR5261? I see a "button" or cover on most of the pictures.
[Android Head-Units] spapadim:
I'm one of the other people with the exact same behavior. Power is completely removed from both host and OTG (in host mode) ports as soon as ACC goes off, which is not a good sign (one can easily verify with a cheap USB power monitor, eg search Amazon for "DROK USB 2.0 Digital Multimeter" for $10 -- can't post links yet).

In any case, the external hub is irrelevant. A flash drive draws minimal power anyway. That is definitely not the issue.

The question is: do ppl with an NU-unit successfully keep externally mounted storage happy, if ACC is cycled *while* an app has open files on said storage (if not, then Android does recover, eventually, despite the forcible removal of external storage). This last condition is crucial (e.g., video recorder still running while switching key). Still looking into this, but seems either MCU or kernel shuts down the on-board hub immediately when ACC goes off, at least on NR units.

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] alexfry:
Can anyone speak to the Bluetooth call quality of the Newsmy vs Joying?

Everyone seems to agree that Joying is bad, but I'm unclear if this is a general android headunit issue.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
I can say the Bluetooth is usable.
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Works well enough for me, even using the external mic it comes with.

I saw posts saying that a better external mic works better (who knew better is better, lol)
[Android Head-Units] pppeterrr:
hey all, long time since i've been here.

Today i wanted to update to xdauto1.1.6d, and mcu 53.

Already been running this for a long time (older versions),

so i downloaded it, updated the mcu, placed the update on the sd.

It got detected, and rebooted to cwm .

There i got the msg /invalid command argument

Anyone ?
[Android Head-Units] spapadim:
Nevermind, was going over NU teardown photos, and there is no on-board USB hub in the box, so most likely the issue should not exist with NU units... Doh! Sorry :)

If someone is nice/patient enough to post dmesg logs during an ACC cycle on an NU unit, that might still be helpful though..! ;). Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
There is discussion on the xdAuto thread about this too. It seems the USB hub is not connected to anything. Someone with a NU could do the test or likely knows the behavior already if they have an HDD attached. NU owners please post!
[Android Head-Units] spapadim:
That would be a useful sanity check. Or even how a "regular" Android device with storage in OTG host behaves... hmm. Before getting all too excited and hung ho, that is. :)

Edit 7/16: Kernel was compiled without USB_SUSPEND set (xdauto defconfig), so can't be that (was hoping I had missed something obvious). Not sure if there's other power management stuff that could be going on (somehow I doubt, but might be worth checking). Anyway, I probably won't be touching this for the next few days (at least), if you happen to open the unit and figure out USB schematic, let me know. :)
[Android Head-Units] vip-25:
Hello guys, is there any rom with android 5.0 or 6.0??
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Short answer, No

Longer answer, something to do with the fact drivers do not exist for the CPU
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Posted my findings so far in the xdAuto thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=67763891&postcount=595
[Android Head-Units] spookyx:
v.1.4.2 is out but I am not able to download.

Anyone has it already and can share it? Or download and put it somewhere to download?

http://yun.baidu.com/share/home?uk=2703960092#category/type=0

Thanks.
[Android Head-Units] kamhunt:
1.4.2
[Android Head-Units] spookyx:
Thanks. You were so fast. I tried all day to download, no luck to login on baidu...

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Could you also put the other file, with the 2.5G user data? Thanks again
[Android Head-Units] kamhunt:
CarPad-III_update_v1.4.2_2.5G_user_data_en
[Android Head-Units] sinnedone:
Quick question for logitech Web cam users.

Will the built in microphone take over the Android audio out like mentioned in the wiki, or does the Android audio still come out of the rca out connectors?

Also the wiki states the android box as having a micro hdmi when it's actually a "mini" hdmi out.
[Android Head-Units] bernard69:
ey guys, i took a look in wiki but i do not find anything about turning back to stock rom... procedure is like installing new custom rom?

and about roms, is the latest stock rom worth it? im in latest xdauto but i have the feeling that stock rom now is better...isn't it? sorry if this is comented previously but i didn't find it...
[Android Head-Units] zanix:
Yes, follow the same procedure to go back to stock.
[Android Head-Units] bernard69:
Thanks! And regarding stock rom? Anyone using recent version could say whether is worth itor should i remain in xdauto???
[Android Head-Units] sinnedone:
It honestly sounds like you received a bad unit from the very beginning.

The store should have replaced the unit from the beginning instead of giving you the run around.
[Android Head-Units] spapadim:
Newsmy support

Two parts to my question:

1. Does anyone have an NR unit with a non-functioning external mic (bad distortion over Bluetooth which leads to feedback into car speakers (!!) if mic is close enough to mouth, and completely dead on Android)? If so, please drop me a line.

2. What is the best way to reach Newsmy? Before purchasing the unit (directly from them) I had the impression (based on posts here) that they're fairly responsive, but that has not been the case with me, so I'm honestly wondering if I'm doing sth wrong. They've been very polite, but very un-responsive. E.g., on question about mic, they first asked me to record samples, then it took them 6 days and two additional messages from me to eventually apologize for late reply and say that they now(!) need to talk to technicians to figure out solution, and then nothing again for 3 days. I've done Aliexpress messages (not chat) and email (both with "Summer Xu"), perhaps I'm doing something wrong?

Thanks!
[Android Head-Units] Hurricane-Game:
Hi,

I would like to know if someone figured out how to change the boot logo on the latest xdauto (	xdAuto-1.1.6d)? I have tried doing it with FactoryTool but its not possible. The "change boot logo" is greyed out and i can quite locate the boot logo to replace it myself "by hand".

thanks :)
[Android Head-Units] kamhunt:
read here
[Android Head-Units] Hurricane-Game:
I already tried following that guide with FactoryTool 5.0 and it didnt work, but then tried with 4.4 and somehow it worked. Thank you very much for the answer. :good:
[Android Head-Units] gomylle:
I would also like to know if the orig newsmy rom (1.4.2) is better than Xdauto now?

Whats the difference?
[Android Head-Units] RamPowered:
Where can I find latest MCU version to download and an Audio problem

I have the new carpad 3 (NR3001) with MCU v54, and stock rom 1.3.9.

I want to flash them again because I have audio problem. After activating Radio, other apps like Music and Waze do not output audio. only the radio does.

1. Any one had a similar audio problem?

2. Where can I find these versions (or higher) of Rom and MCU to download ?

The popular link here in this forum, "........developer=zaphod&folder=nu3001/MCU" has only MCU v53 as the latest version.

Thanks.
[Android Head-Units] apollo1976:
Hi RamPowered,

It is striking, but yesterday I had the same problem, when I turned on the radio would disappear the volume from all other applications.

I use the 1.4.2 firmware and MCU V57 (are the latest versions).

To solve the problem I had to install the V53 version of the MCU and then reinstall the V57.

In this way I solved.

If you update the MCU should solve.

However, the 1.4.2 firmware is great, installing this I also solved also the problem of black screen when i turn on the Carpad.

These are the link to the new versions:

MCU V57: h t t p s://mega.nz/#!MhBiACiD!mIgILi2OuU18HOAcohvO38fmcqrWcFEVOf3RJPoG670

FIRMWARE 1.4.2: h t t p s://mega.nz/#!Y5YnkZDC!VQJTFtG-dh6ncA2TWXNfH7JAGGIBPEJw0DgESHKGnKg
[Android Head-Units] gomylle:
Any changelog on MCU v57?
[Android Head-Units] apollo1976:
no sorry, it's a miracle to have found the latest version of the MCU since the absence of an official page for the Carpad update.
[Android Head-Units] morten.o:
How can I get the decryption key for the MCU version 57? Kind regards.

Edit: just had to remove the space in the URL
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
Is the MCU v57 compatible with the nu3001? Or just the newer radio.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
Can't be 100% but all the MCUs to date have been for both. The NU and NR share the same microcontroller.
[Android Head-Units] blacklistedcard:
I don't remember v57. I try it out
[Android Head-Units] Totoix:
Have you tried ? Is it working? Is it worth updating?
[Android Head-Units] dadan_su:
How about sound quality of this head unit compare to other china head unit ? is better ?
[Android Head-Units] RamPowered:
Hi apollo1976.

Thanks you very much, you were a great help!!

By the way, if I have MCU v54 already install should I downgrade to V53 and then install V57?
[Android Head-Units] zeroprobe:
Interesting, it seems that maybe another source upload has been done where the new firmwares get uploaded on baidu.

A new directory named newsmy has been created with files about 22GIG in size.

Unfortunately the archive is password protected :(
[Android Head-Units] sinnedone:
Get that password! Lol
[Android Head-Units] zeroprobe:
If anyone has any previous passwords from them you want me to try, I'm all ears.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
What type of archive did you discover it to be? I pulled down the files and tried to concatenate them, but I've not been successful in merging them into a valid file.

Also, It looks like those engineers have been working on some new MT6735 device (unknown if it's auto related, or a phone/tablet, etc.). So, don't get your expectations too high. But I did pull the files just in case myself :)

A Little searching on Newsmy's site reveals the MT6735 device is an Android powered Rear View mirror.

BTW, I've been super busy for the last year or so, but I haven't completely forgotten about this device. Became very frustrated with Newsmy's reluctance to release source code, and their wasting of my time on a fruitless RDS pursuit. I haven't (and still don't) have much time for coding, but I see a few new faces pushing some code/features to the github.

My build environment is a little bit screwed up, but I'm trying to fix it and will push a more recent build to our xdAuto repo.

I see some references to MCU v54 & v57. Where are these coming from? I've downloaded v57 from a link posted earlier, but I'm reluctant to install it, or post it on our archive until I know the source and that it's safe.
[Android Head-Units] zeroprobe:
It's a 7zip file with a tar file inside. You can within 7zip rebuild to a single file.

Crark for 7-zip seems to be the only tool to attempt to crack. So slow though.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Thanks. I was able to put the file together.

Without any starting points for the password (length, some of the characters, etc), then brute force will be nearly impossible. I've talked to one of my haxor friends (he actually does this for a living - not just some dood who thinks stealing your friends facebook password is hacking), and we are trying to find away to pull the hash file and brute force that. Should go a little easier. Having trouble with the size of the file though.
[Android Head-Units] twokidsandaphone:
I d/l from 4pda:

http://4pda.ru/forum/index.php?showtopic=628941&st=2580

Installed it and it's working. No obvious changes.
[Android Head-Units] Zaphod-Beeblebrox:
Do we know where they got it? Is there another baidu repo we won't know about yet?