yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
Question for @sykopompos

I know you make more changes in your ramdisk than just setting permissive mode since that could be handled with a single setting.

Some people in this thread are using unsupported kernels like Franco and Code Blue which do not use the anykernel installation method and therefore replace this ROM's ramdisk with their own. Using a Play Store utility to set permissive mode on with those kernels is not equivalent to using your ramdisk what are they losing with that approach?

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] donnyp1:
Its there, but its dbag proof, you may not have it.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sjknight413:
Seems to be exactly the same thing actually, I need selinux to be permissive because I need viper4android to work. I flashed Franco and storage went wonky plus audio wouldn't play because v4a was conflicting, rebooted, no dice. Installed that app and set selinux to permissive then rebooted, everything is fine again.

Selinux used to be able to be changed through developer options in KitKat so I'm pretty sure it's the same

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] donnyp1:
Commencing schwartzing!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
They aren't getting permissive because the chainsfire method which has the never allow rule of not setting it permissive in the init. Basically what they are adding in the init is worthless and doesn't do the same thing. Setting it permissive later isn't the same thing

Sent from my LG-D851

Edit. There is nothing stopping it from setting it permissive in user space and they could do that with those kernels or chainsfire method
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Jiggs82:
Sorry if this been asked or answered already but is there a volume key wake mod for this rom yet? Thanks in advance
[Nexus 5 Android Development] donnyp1:
That would be a mod, so not to my knowledge
[Nexus 5 Android Development] iaTa:
Which Sony Walkman app are you using because the Sound Enhancements in version Xperia Z3 WALKMAN v1.0.b don't work for me?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
OK, thanks.

So what's the difference between setting permissive mode in the init versus doing it in the user space with an app. I know this question is going to come up a lot after Lollipop is released and more users have to deal with the reality of SELinux enforcement.

Of course, the kernel developers that choose not to boot in permissive mode might not support an environment where it is forced on by the user, but that will probably depend on the attitude of the developer regarding SELinux enforcement.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Anisrael:
Great ROM. The trusted face camera doesn't seem to be working on B15. Is anyone else experiencing this? Not a deal breaker by any means, but just thought I'd point that out.

Update: Resetting the trusted face fixed the issue.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ohad129:
Where is photos/gallery
[Nexus 5 Android Development] or965:
30/45 Steps Volume

Hi someone know How I can get 30/45 Steps Volume on this rom ,I try to edit the framework.jar - AudioService.smali like I did on the previous l preview but now with the new 5.0/l preview I cant find AudioService.smali on the framework.jar.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vsot13:
Working here. Try clean flash or just reboot

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mihovil13:
I know that, but I have a problem that I actually DO HAVE 26GB of apps and their data (not /data/media) so I don't have the storage to backup the same 26GB...basically I need a 64GB phone :)

Otherwise great ROM...fully stable, not fully fluid but works awesome
[Nexus 5 Android Development] yanner2012:
Gallery have been remove from Lollipop.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
OK. That's unusual, but I understand. That's why I asked the question. ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ohad129:
And photos?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sjknight413:
Install google+ from play store

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ohad129:
I got it

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I want the icon its doesnt make sense to go into camera to sweep right to see your photos
[Nexus 5 Android Development] xmckinzie:
Can anyone verify WiFi Tethering works? Its disabled for me on B15.

I came straight from the Dev preview and it was working on it.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
You need to do a clean flash (TWRP "factory reset") when coming from the official preview ROM. Then WiFi tethering should work fine. It does for me. ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] chriskoups:
Works here....! Do you make clean flash? wipe system/data/cache?

What kernel you have?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] the.emilio:
No issues here with BT. Been streaming music via BT on my head phones and car no issues. Haven't tried calls tho.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] xmckinzie:
I wiped system and did a factory reset prior to flashing per the OP. I never make an effort to install custom kernels, so I have whatever came with it.

I only restore call logs and texts via TiBu. Thanks though.

I will try another flash and wipe everything.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] elementskater1010:
I just installed B15 and ElementalEX 2.00 and I installed Spotify but for some reason the widget isnt there and neither is Power Widget.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] intralot:
b15 is good for my usage thanks.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] cdsbj6508:
I'm experiencing SOD anyone else having this issue. I have to hold the power button or power off in order for my screen to turn back on.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
I think you're a little early for that kind of mod in Lollipop. I'm sure once the official release is out things like Xposed Framework and Apktool will be updated for compatibility but what you are asking is on the bleeding edge now and you might do better getting advice in a developer's forum or the official preview threads.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] razrlover:
Its the non viperFX 1.7 clear audio Z3 walkman. Same mod newer version I think. I used it with FX booster for eq. I got back on KK for today to play with some audio/player mods so I know what to try on 5.0. See if u find newer version and pm me if u don't find anything that works;)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
Let us know if it doesn't. You should try it immediately after the flash before you restore or install anything else to determine if it is working and then broken by something else or never working.

Attached is a screenshot of my WiFi hotspot in action on B15 with the ElementalX L 2.0 kernel.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] yanner2012:
Tapatalk get fc when I attach image. I did clean installation.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Konsumhaus:
Can anyone confirm whats APP messages sometimes only come in when opening the APP on b15
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vsot13:
This ROM is absolutely amazing. With HC b4 is stable for my daily needs. Thanks both devs for time and effort putting pieces together for us. And I think is time people stop reporting bugs, errors etc, unless you are done clean flash. I like it dirty, but simple as is not a case here. Thanks

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] DigitalUnderground:
Been on B15 all day. Love it. Like it way more than the latest preview. Stable as far as I can tell. No FCs. Nice work [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION]. Can't get MMS to send tho and battery could be better
[Nexus 5 Android Development] chriskoups:
i don't know if you are also a developer of your app but, it's retrieve the minimum cpu frequency to 960mHz if i put it less of 960mHz.

Also GPU stats are missing.

All the others are just perfect...! :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
The new apps from the Nexus 6 being integrated definitely help to differentiate it from the latest official preview. :good:

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] cocchiararo:
Finally flashed this (b15).

I was on the official preview with syko's modified boot.IMG.

The flash hanged on the system format step, I had to reboot the phone, manually format it and then flash the zip again.

I had to factory reset (expected), or I was faced with a black screen with only a back on screen button that did nothing.

Also had to wipe data in some apps restored with tibu cause they force closed (link bubble, for example). All seems fine.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] hellsgod:
Nope, Mike does the magic on the app. Its not supposed to work fully on the nexus 5. The gpu and thermal tab don't work. And about min frequency, thats the input boost you see. It raises your min freq to 960mhz for 1 second after touch. It goes to 192mhz after that :)

hells
[Nexus 5 Android Development] weirdfate:
What's with the roaming indicator off?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] edrickmph:
I am trying to backup all apps using astro file manager but whats happening is only adaway is backing up. And when i see the backup file the name of adaway is now base.apk. This only happened since b11. Im now on b15.

Anyone who can help?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
This weekend I'm going to be redoing a lot of this and finishing it up. Since this was the first one out and only a few testers, we wouldn't know all the problems till it was out for a week or so
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
I like both [MENTION=5334172]Gnome[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4950720]hottix[/MENTION] , they both seem like excellent guys.

I've met a couple kernel devs and other devs over the course of this project and almost all of them have been awesome so far so I like to support these guys so I might say we leave it at these 2 for right now on this and if others want to join in then they can but I don't think we need to pursue any other kernels for right now.

We got 2 good solid kernels and 2 awesome guys behind them
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eluspo:
I think 2 kernels for this ROM is enough too.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Citizen_Snips:
Anyone have issues with apps opening? I mean I'll download & install fine, but opening the app won't work. I first noticed it on the Facebook Messenger app (which I've used fine before on official L preview). Tried force closing the app/clearing cache& data with no luck. Still hung on trying to open. I downloaded Catlog and ironically it had the same issue. I'm running the L preview test kernel posted by Gnome in this thread some pages earlier.

Only changes I made were flashing supersu 2.02 & installing busybox. I'll see if I can get a log when near a PC later.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] RJT71:
Something like that, use nexus 5 sound app that makes adjustment to your mix script. But mine is stock now because faux sound app works in both of these test kernels. By the way, I am using gnome test kernel now. The linear gave me lag after multitasking. Had to reboot to get it smooth again.

And I love the stock mpdecision.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
If [MENTION=4450732]CallMeAldy[/MENTION] or [MENTION=3685904]ak[/MENTION] or [MENTION=4379011]poondog[/MENTION] or [MENTION=1316336]defconoi[/MENTION] decide to do something for the n5, I will fully support those guys too because they have all been awesome too especially [MENTION=1316336]defconoi[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4379011]poondog[/MENTION]. Those guys are my buddies
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
The mpdecision is different in each set of binaries so we will see what we get in the next set I merge it.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ghettopops:
AK works on this doesn't it?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
Idk if he has a L kernel or not on the n5 since I am new in this forums
[Nexus 5 Android Development] RJT71:
No one good kernel is enough. Bud to test of one is good you'll have to flash multiple kernels.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] poondog:
Stock mpdec ftw!

Unfortunately I'll probably never get a nexus 5 :(
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
Either will I though unless I pick it up once the n6 comes out on the cheap for development
[Nexus 5 Android Development] eluspo:
I would agree
[Nexus 5 Android Development] RJT71:
I'm afraid to say it, going to get Samsung galaxy note 4 , with gear solo. I'm so a ashamed now.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
U should be :(
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
Just don't the activate developer options or you will void your warranty. ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Gnome:
I'll get the Nexus X. :D
[Nexus 5 Android Development] RJT71:
Knox counter will be sky high after I'm done with it :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Terrell1433:
MMS is working over here.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] KarloHD:
The same problem I have ..

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] tomzefi:
Weird. No prob here
[Nexus 5 Android Development] donnyp1:
Up and running. Everything fresh, full wipe, just reinstall my 6 apps from the market, disabled the google stuff I don't use, sent an MMS, everything is fantastic. Stupid smooth ROM. Epic work to all involved.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dave2metz:
Since MX Player is not compatible with L, does anybody have a suggestion for a good Video player for movies? Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] piperx:
What do you mean by "hanged on the system format step" ?

I would wait about 20-30 minutes for this step to complete, however, 15-20 minutes is the norm, sometimes $hit happens and takes longer/shorter

I don't do tibu so no comment on that ;)

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I dropped MX Player years ago and use VitalPlayer.

Plays anything I throw at it.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.dgo.VitalPlayer

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Never used astro file manager, but, I just completed backing up using es file explorer
[Nexus 5 Android Development] chriskoups:
For the min freq the bar move in 960mhz after i enter the app and stay there.... if i put it 92mhz it's stay there until i open again the app...

Pls tell to Mike to make his magics pls....!!! :cowboy::cowboy::cowboy::cowboy:
[Nexus 5 Android Development] cocchiararo:
When you flash this ROM in recovery, the first thing it does is wipe or format the system partition. It is a fast step that never take a 15 to 25 minutes to complete.

It hanged there.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] hellsgod:
The app doesn't refresh, thats why it stays in the app.

hells
[Nexus 5 Android Development] shinesthru:
Harmless bug for Sprint users.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] bertcarv:
Im able to send and receive text messages but when I try to send or receive a picture, the message never leaves and if on the receiving end, it never downloads the photo. Did I miss this somewhere in the thread as it not working or is there a patch ot something I need to do? I'm running B15 all day today and everything else is smooth as butter. Thanks.

Bert
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Terrell1433:
About two pages back a guy reported this. I'm rubbing B15 on T-Mobile sending and receiving MMS just fine.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] androidpost:
I've installed VLC player works :good:

but you have to adjust Hardware acceleration.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
Been a bug since the first previews, it always goes to the wrong APN it seems and the data is a bit screwy till you set it right. (There is a APN in hangouts too to set)

I know on my n4 on T-Mobile, it gives me boost mobile for the default APN

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Android Development] theghazi:
B15 rock solid. I don't know to praise this ROM. Its just perfect. I don't know what will need to be change to make it better. I wonder. Probably nothing. Thanks a lot
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mendozaram:
Yes, using that app from the link
[Nexus 5 Android Development] llevo3:
licking b15 all day long, who need a chocolate
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mendozaram:
Yes, im using codeblue kernel and everythings is fine, download this app , set to permissive and you're ready.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mrbimc.selinux
[Nexus 5 Android Development] nevrlow:
There's a cm11 theme called carbon and the font in that theme is my favorite. I'll send money to anyone who can make that font flashable on lollipop
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
[MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] This is what I was asking about.

What issues, if any, do you see with this recommendation?

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] gtj0:
No tethering for me either...

Wipe in TWRP, Install b15, Install SuperSU-2.16, boot.

Google DID start an auto-restore my account but I'm going to turn it off and start over and see what happens.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] thereal_bigjake:
Send me a pm with a link to the theme and I'll give it a shot.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sjknight413:
There are none. Like I said, you used to be able to change selinux's state in userspace on KitKat through developer options.

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] bertcarv:
Thanks will look for that.

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Thank you Sir. Much appreciated. Will make changes.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
Thanks for opinion but I would still like a read from [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] on this one. ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sjknight413:
Suit yourself, but it isn't an opinion.

EDIT: that app is endorsed by the very forum we are conversing on: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/easily-change-your-android-selinux-mode/

It works by creating a script that executes on boot.

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] gtj0:
Still no tethering even after after clean install with no restore.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] tomzefi:
I take your word for it.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] magozz:
PDAnet tethering working for me, that's all I use and it never failed me on any ROM.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
Sorry, but that link has nothing to do with the recommendation for using the unsupported kernels (Franco and Code Blue) with the ROM's that this thread covers.

I'm interested in what [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] has to say about that and you don't represent him.

BTW that's an XDA news article not an endorsement. There's a difference between those two.

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Doktaphex:
I am just now reading about SELinux here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Security-Enhanced_Linux

Isn't it interesting that it was originally developed by the American NSA!?

I have never really given it much thought, but I suppose that as it will be a big part of my communication related life from now on, I really should read and understand it!

I advise everybody here to do the same.

As a naive graduate developer, issues like this haven't really been my focus, however, considering I am now reasonably settled in to a job that pays my bills, I can devote some time to issues that DEFINITELY WILL affect my personal programming projects, as they are all currently Android based.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
The problem with that is that it is obsolete. It does the same exact thing as opening a terminal and typing setenforce 0.

It does not address the underlying problem that the sepolicy has been changed to explicitly

remove the init's ability to set enforce.

Now since the preview is older then the 13th (it might have been compiled on the 13th but doesn't pull in the latest selinux changes and a few other things), chainsfire's method still works (the method currently being used on 13d) but is already patched in the sepolicy after 13d to block the current method.

The way I went around it and is already future proof so it will work right with the official L release (same boot image will probably work too depending on other ramdisk changes) is to just transfer over the sepolicy which has those things already removed for root to function as we are used to. Unlike just changing the mode by a script after boot, this allows it to be permissive right from the start

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sjknight413:
No need to get all stuck up and superior about it is there?

He replied to you and said there's nothing stopping people from using these kernels and changing selinux to permissive in userspace.

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5

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But if the init's ability to set enforce has been revoked, how is that app able to change selinux's state so effectively?

EDIT: oh wait do you mean selinux has been patched more recently than when the preview was compiled and released?

Sent from my Android 5.0 Lollipop + ElementalX powered Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ramjet73:
Sorry, but I was reacting to your authoritative position on something that wasn't directed to you, so who's acting superior?

You're right, I got my answer from [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] which is all I was looking for when I asked the question. :good:

ramjet73
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Doktaphex:
Having read further into the wiki article, it seems that I can state this with some confidence:

"We as XDA users, and contributors, know exactly what we are installing on any and all of our devices. We fully understand, and comprehend the risks that are involved in using "Alpha/Beta/Rough" software, firmware, etc..."

Although the above is true for many of us, we must still be vigilant, and not flame the newbies, but guide them instead! We were all a "NEWB" at some point!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
Because it is doing it the same way of after the fact just like in userspace which is another thing that has been revoked in the upcoming sepolicy (they are closing all the loop holes).

Still need root in the first place which is being enabled by chainsfire's method bit will be blocked off.

There really is no way around that going forward, the only way we are really gonna be able to get root is 2 real methods, either adb reload sepolicy off the sdcard (unless that gets blocked too which is most likely) or modify the sepolicy to grant privledges back to a method.

Modifying the sepolicy itself is a sure fire method (which I did) to get around the issues. I took the lazier way of full permissive instead of crafting the policy perfect before we have final sources so we don't need full permissive.

I would assume ROM makers will take a similar approach of modifying the sepolicy te files to open a method but chainsfire will come up with a way to execute it (I'm leaving that up to chainsfire since he is the king of root to come up with the method or a exploit going forward) while I will have a option on day 1 like I did this time for users or devs that don't wanna deal with selinux while coming up with something

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sykopompos:
Yes, the preview might have been compiled on the 13th but it is definitely not up to date with everything that has been merged into aosp by the 13th. Idk if this is by design or if they were working on the preview up till then (the n6 dump is a lot farther ahead then the preview and it is from 5 days before it)

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 5 Android Development] piperx:
Selinux in the linux world is like windows explorer in the windows world, (popular) then again, a lot of windows people never heard of linux, unix, etc ...

Haven't used windows besides an odd game since the 90's. (debian sid for over a decade)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] tomzefi:
This is one of the most enjoyable threads. Let's continue that. Seriously just have a convo without egos and accusations. Debates are healthy ..we learn from one another. Many users are knowledgeable in this and other subjects. We should welcome opinions and others knowledge.