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[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reuss32:
Ok guys stop liying.

Every people who is saying G3 has no lag is liying with stock launcher or nova launcher.

Just do the following let your phone for a while. Then switch on screen and go to settings, it's laggy, about 1, or 2 seconds the time to load settings.

For the hardware of this device it's not normal, you cannot accept this is mine LGG3 D855 D85510i stock firmware s801/2gb of ram rooted with nova launcher, run settings time to load 2 seconds.

I have an HTC ONE M8 with same hardware but frequency clock 2.3Ghz so less powerful than my LG G3 with 2.5Ghz and when i go settings its right way.

2 devices are running same applications then when HTC ONE was running android 4.4.2 it was exactely the same, now it is running 4.4.3 and to go settings it's very smoothy, without lag, right way.

LG G3, excuse the expression, is a piece of ****. I don't understand how is it posible, why they developp their own interface, and to run your device without lag, you have to install a new launcher, go to developper options and disable blalblablablabla, and even doing this the device doesn't run as smooth as it should. Device overhating, shutdowns itself to prevent danger, but why??? it never occurs on my M8 why???

LG hadn't optimize her interface since the device has been released, some minor update, which improve a little bit performance but not as it should, another thing i notice sometimes i launch multitasking to delete app's running in background and nothing appears, i have to run multitasking another time to see all apps running what's going on with this?

LG have to improve updates and release 4.4.3 now cause they are to slow upgrading their devices and i'm sure that G3 will not run 4.4.4 when Android L will be released i bet. It's not normal after 2 nexus build experience.

Bye
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Horcza:
Takes less than half a second to load the settings menu (this includes the animation of it popping up), although I did reduce the animations to 0.5x. And anyway, as you and many others said, it's LG's fault for not having optimized the hardware well enough. We're all power users here, LG could have done a better job but does it really matter for us at XDA? Give it a couple weeks-months and we'll have far better custom ROMs, with better hardware to build on.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reuss32:
Less than half second prove it! I'm not saying after you've already load setting 5 minutes before cause of course in this case settings are in cache, the same as you load widgets first time, it takes a little time but after load them another time it's fastier cause they are in cache. I've done what you've said, reduce the animations to 0.5x, then root my device change hidden settings to reduce lag, replace stock launcher with nova, but lag is still there, then when i load settings it's not fast as it should regarding the hardware specs and comparing to M8, i cannot say anything about other device with similar hardware cause i haven't tested them (Z2, S5, one+one etc...). But in same conditions and with a frequency clock smaller M8 is a bullet in comparison with G3.

I told you i put same apps to compare devices and M8 is fast as the first day i've got it, G3 with no apps is fast but settings or widgets load even without apps, show already lag, then after done all tricks to reduce lag and improve performance, it continue to be slow, then it has another kind of issues, for example i cannot use it when is in charge, cause it is overhating then temp goes to 100degres and device turn off with the typical message of device is to hot to prevent failure blablbabla, device poweroff, no matter if i change hidden settings or not, same behaviour.

I use M8 no overhating, no lag, no poweroff.

The other day i download asphalt 8 on both devices, till today i haven't got oportunity to play on G3 to compare with M8, because of overhating, it's a shame of device.

Now i understand your effort to develop a custom rom to make it smoother, but it will be late, in my opinion you cannot buy a device in original state is so laggy. Then i'm verry angry with all good advertising specialized press had done for this device, saying it's the best android of 2014, etc... This is partly because of all good advertising that i've bought this phone, then as i told you before when i was in the shop, i tested the device, screen is amazing and without apps, the device doesn't run bad settings load faster etc.... But now what i'm not apreciating on phone is sometimes widgets doesn't refresh correctly, probably due to high resolution, then as i told before comparing G3 and M8 with same applications, M8 is a bullet, you cannot compare. Antutu benchmark for 2 devices in default settings, G3 can hardly scores 29000 points using i stock firmware M8, scores 36000 points without problem.

LGG3 => S801=>2.5Ghz/2Gb of ram:confused:

M8 S801=>2.3Ghz/2Gb of ram:confused:

What is going wrong with this device?

I forgot something, since i've touch hidden settings to reduce lag, when i run antutu, G3 goes to 28% and reboot, with antutu4 or 5 same issue.

I'me very disapointed with this G3. And i have assume that i've lost money, cause i bought it 499€ new in shop, + quick circle about 35€ so about 535€, and i put a ads to sell it 500€ but no one called me, i change my ads today to put it in 480€ i'm upset.:mad:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Horcza:
Prove it how? I'm not gonna video it just for you. My phone was on my desk when I read your post, didn't thouch it for half an hour, even then I wasn't in the settings.

I understand you're upset but not everyone who says they don't experience lag is lying. On my previous phone (xperia s, my first rooted etc phone) I often came across ROMs which were working great for others, not as much for me and vice versa. It varies from phone to phone, maybe you could try to return your current G3 for a different model.

I don't know your experience regarding LG (I barely have any), but I read that this is pretty much the same thing which was going on with the G2 - the performance didn't live up to the expectations, but became perfectly fine with later official updates. Of course you're dissappointed because you didn't exactly get what you paid for, but I think it's a bit too early to give up on it.

As for the hidden settings, I didn't turn them off because I think they're on for a reason, and I don't have performance issues, so I left them intact.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prfraczek:
Thanks God iphone 6 is coming. Thanks LG for G3. This helped me a lot with my decision:) this phone is just another piece of sh... with android. I've had circa 6 android phones fir last 3 years. Really trying because need to be able to run some apps for my job and cannot do this on Ios but i'm going to get small windows notebook for job and iPhone 6. Unbelievable that i paid 500 pounds for this sh...it. I'm now on the beach with my girlfriend- she is using iphone 5 in front of me- typing emails using facebook making pictures but my new lovely G3 i cannot even unlock due to the fac... hot weather.??? Screen is dark, unresponsive- HSDPA network acess works smoothly but just on iPhone not on mine (roaming to complicated for android) Need to turn plain mode on off all the time. Dear LG i can guarantee you once I'm back in UK you will pay me full refund for this shi.....t. Btw don't try to tell me that this is due to launcher or similiar... I'm on Nova...
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mistertac:
I'm sorry to hear so many of you not enjoying the G3. I think the phones great. I'm on Verizon and still on original firmware, no OTAs at all and after removing bloat and using things like Greenify I'm very happy.

I agree though that LGs software needs improvement for sure though. I see the slight lag in say Settings but overall that's not enough for me too be upset about.

I've even played the resource demanding games that others play just to test it out and no problems there either.

- Tapatalked from the G3
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRCANNADY:
I just hate stupid post like this! Listen, we are not retards, we know what lag is. Just because some are having issues, that does not mean ALL of us are! I have never seen a phone released where people did not complain about lag..it's all about the software and apps running. And my HTC One M8 also experienced lag when scrolling or going through settings, but not all the time. Wait for the updates to fix the current lag issues some of us are having..some people act like stuttering on Android devices is something new. Geez.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saitch76:
I'm on 10i and I don't get any lag. How do you know the 801 is maxed out? Are you using a CPU monitor?

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I have never had the lag/issues you are describing, even on the earlier firmwares. I've not had to change the hidden settings either, and, to be perfectly honest, do you really expect the device to be stable if you mess with them?

My advice is to try a few different launchers. That might give you a clue to whether software bugs are the problem. It might also be worth running a CPU montoring app to see if you are getting lag but CPU activity is low.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reuss32:
Sorry my friend but this the truth. Just check posts around you about complaining of LG g3 lag according to me and about all we are complaining about it we have spent money to have the best now not in 4 or 5 months when other devices will be released with much better hardware. By the way I haven't looking for M8 lag cause I haven't on mine. Another thing even in specialised press they didn't mentioned nothing about lag on M8, so if you're happy with your laggie g3, enjoy it, and let me express my opinion we are free to express ourselves.

Bye bye
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRCANNADY:
Everyone is an expert on GPU/CPUs now I see. Again, the 801 can handle the resolution on the phone, it's just the way that the current software has been optimized that's the main issue. It's designed to adjust speed/etc to preserve battery. Wait until the phone has been updated before making these conclusions, or contact the chip maker and confirm your theories first please. :good:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiduser991:
Its for nothing to do with optimized software. You're fooling yourself because you've wasted $700 underpowered phone. You can easily do frame rate tests on games which show a much lower frame rate on the 801 G3 compared to the M8,Z2 or 805 G5.

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Its for nothing to do with optimized software. You're fooling yourself because you've wasted $700 underpowered phone. You can easily do frame rate tests on games which show a much lower frame rate on the 801 G3 compared to the M8,Z2 or 805 G5.

Cogratualations to LG on their "adaptive frame rate" marketing nonsense as its obviously worked.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] prfraczek:
Wait for what? I bought the best phone on the market for £500 and this 'smartphone' must do the smartphone job. Very simple. Got car and this car must drive when new :) this is one of 100 posts about lags etc. so people do not try to tell us that this phone is great because is shi%tttttt. Wait for optimization? Upgrades? I'm buying new phone. Can LG wait for my money until I got them? Then I can pay for mobile? And always excuse is will be better but is NOT. Guys this hardware can do absolutely everything with no Lags. I could do much more complicated things 5 years ago on PC with 10% of possibilities of this phone. BTW i had same story with nexus5 galaxy s2 s3 s4 lg g2 htc and never ending story with androids TA
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pfeffernuss:
Simply don't feed the trolls/n00bs... Close thread, enjoy the G3, settled :good:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRCANNADY:
Seriously! Even though their are legitimate complaints about the phone (or any other newly released phone in general) you always find those that take things up to the ridiculous level, and/or create multiple post with nothing but complaints. When people come on here and try to tell us that all of our phones are not working correctly, and that EVERY one of these phones have issues, I just laugh. You never know when those Apple fanboys like to start flaming something based on things that they have read... :)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisM75:
I guess you arent aware that 3D games and 2D UI elements are not powered in the same way. 2D even at QHD is effortless for most GPUs, 3D games are completely different and require a completely different set of calculations and physics.

The limitation on 2D is bandwidth, getting the frames out fast enough, the calculations needed to render the frames are not a problem at all. The GPU has more than enough bandwidth for QHD 2D. How else do you think the GPU manages to handle 4K video recording? In that situation it also has to encode the video as well as render the frames for the screen. Its not problem at all.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fmedina2:
Are we not allowed to discuss the poor performance that a large majority of people are experiencing? Or are we to just simply accept the phone for what it is and enjoy it because you said so?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] androiduser991:
The Find 7 801 QHD has the exact same problem. Frame rate dropping,stutter and lag. Coincidence?

This is a hardware issue without a doubt. Again, run the frame rate app in the background on a 1080 801 then the QHD 805 and look at the low frame rates on the G3. Also go and read Anandtechs comments about needing an 805 with QHD to get 801 performance on 1080.Look at Erica Griffins video where she states the 805 G3 is much smoother than the 801 G3 and advises against buying the 801 G3(both the same LG software),finally go and read the comments on the Cat 6 thread where they say their 805 G3s are running smoothly with no lag and as fast as an M8. The 801 is capable of 2k,just not very smoothly.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRCANNADY:
Shhssh man, you sound like you know what you're talking about, which goes against this thread and the false info being spread what the GPU can handle. :silly:

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I would pick option# 2 :cool:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pfeffernuss:
10J, 60fps, done. Phone is smooth as butter. If not, stop using bloated social media (cr)apps.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRCANNADY:
Thanks for the update, sounds like the software update is heading in the right direction! Besides a few other optimizations, 10J is pretty much doing what was already mentioned here on XDA, making adjustments to the ridiculous battery-saving settings that the phone was released with. While also adjusting the throttling/heat issues.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fmedina2:
Just because you are not seeing any performance issues does not mean everybody else isn't. I am rooted and have un-installed all bloatware. I only have about 2-3 apps installed because I don't want my phone to perform any slower. I have done the tweaks through the hidden menu shown here in another thread. I am still seeing significant lag throughout the entire interface.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MRCANNADY:
2-3 apps and still lagging badly? You have one defective phone there pal. You should try returning it or something. Or hopefully an update will fix your issue. That's pretty extreme/bad.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pfeffernuss:
Sell phone. Buy Nexus5/HTC M8/iPhone 5S.

Bliss :cool:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grifter9931:
Quick question for the folks with lag issues...

Are you experiencing this issue out of the box or are you experiencing these issues after manipulation of the OS software and adding app's?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] radeonxt:
currently enjoying the phone.

no lag in games.

no overheating, shutdowns.

one thing i noticed though is when phone is on for a while, i see on android tuner or kernel tweaker that only 1 cpu(core 0). core 1,2 and 3 are all offline. cos when the phone was just turned on, i see all 4 cores running cos it's finishing the boot process and app loadings. then later on it turns off core 1 and 2 while core 0 and core 3 are still on. then later on it becomes single core, only core 0 is on.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] saveferris:
I was peeved at this phone until I updated to the 10J version......now its running extremely well.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EpicChineseTime:
Lag on heavy games like colin mcrae rally, it starts smootly, but after 5 minutes of gameplay when the phone heats up it starts to shutter, lag, frame drop and frame skip.

Lags on daily usage too.

On V10H.

Sent from from my LG-D855
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] helikido:
Precisely everything improves with software updates. By NO means is the 801 a weak processor. It can smoothly operate my phone with a down clocked GPU to 200mhz

I think you just went full retard if you honestly believe the 801 is underpowerd for QHD.

Bro the the Nexus 10 operates smoothly with a cpu/gpu half as weak as the 801 and with the same resolution. Lol the ignorance.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2dorr:
You are correct with Nexus 10. I just remembered it and yes it has an Exynos dual-core. So all the talk that 801 is not powerful for QHD, is in fact negative advertisement for G3. Indeed LG needed 3-4 firmwares to make the phone usable and in line with S5, Z2, One. Even though the screen when on, eat battery more than the rest of the phones. But only for screen/size advantage, I'll keep G3 till something alike will be launched. After G3, I can't accept something bigger, even with the same screen size. Even Note 4, and I was fan of Note series, is not something that I want, when I know Snapdragon 810 with 64-bit will come.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ChrisM75:
Oppo phones never run that well, LG phones always launch with lag.

The cat 6 runs better with a faster processor? You dont say!! Of course it does, it still doesn't mean the software isnt the problem. Im shocked that Anand will say something as noobish as that, I would expect them to know better that 2D UI elements are 3D are totally different things. Even a 2 or 3 year old GPU will handle QHD in 2D perfectly fine, as long as the software is set up properly.

As has been stated more than once, many of us have no lag because we have made a few changes to our phones, this proves the issue is with the software or at the least with the way LG manages throttling.

Games are a separate issue and yes I can see that it might struggle with some games, but I don't play games, so I don't care.

I have a G2 and a G3, the G3 wins most races. It opens apps a little quicker, it returns to the home screen instantly. Youtube is a well know slow opener, its virtually instant on the G3, the G2 is a fraction behind. My work friends M8 is about the same.

Its sad really that companies blame the hardware when its actually their software. Even Google are lazy. The Nexus 10 has less transparency than the other Nexus' because they say the GPU is 'too slow'. Explain then why devs have enabled it and its perfectly OK..
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] os21um:
In my experience I had enormous lag with xposed running. As soon as I got rid of xposed my G3 was flying again.

Not sure why it was like that but definitely noticed the difference. My lock screen took forever to open or close sometimes and the Facebook app was extraordinarily laggy. Once I got rid of xposed it was an amazingly smooth experience.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3dawg:
It's the **** stock launcher. Root and disable it and your performance doubles. I'm not even kidding. Using Nova instead, the whole system feels twice as fast. Stock launcher must be doing some serious **** in the background, eating up cpu cycles and introducing all that disgusting lag.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GoaX:
Hi..... What is the procedure to enable 60 fps on G3. I recieved my phone 2 days back and am actually new to these things.

Thanks......

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[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leomd333:
2 words. Stock ROM.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MalekoUK:
Running like a dream here.

Stock Rom, Rooted, Nova Launcher and NO Xposed.

I had so many performance problems on my last phone when using xposed, learnt to stay away from it despite its benefits.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrnovanova:
3845#*model number# EG I have 885 version so for me ite 3845#*855#

That takes you to secret setting.

look for Dynamic LCD refresh ON/off

then press fixed FPS test and set to 60fps

Hope this helps
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMJI79:
How to reverse it?

How to get back to automatic fps?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] generalkrank:
Wow I feel sorry for you guys who are having lag problems because I have had mine for a couple months now and I have only enjoys bliss with this beast of a phone. Phone of the year if you ask me.
[Sony Xperia ZL] hitesh.pande:
Hi Everyone,

This is regarding the Carbon ROM for Xperia zl 4.4.4

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2700246

Since, I cannot reply in the post (as I have <10 posts), I'm opening this thread for help.

I have been using the 22 built along with Gapps for over 1.5 months. However since I downloaded, the 24 built, and new 4.4.2 gapps, when ever I put the phone in pocket and go out on bike or simple go for walking , it will freeze in unlock screen and only solution is to reset the phone. I have also seen another user facing the same issue.

Steps taken

1. Complete wipe of cache, dalvik, user data, reinstalled the old 22 built along with gapps -still same issue

2. Complete wipe of cache, dalvik, user data, reinstalled the old 24 built along with gapps -still same issue

3. disabled pocket mode and turned off active display- still the same issue

4. at times when not in pocket, due to some reason when i touch and hold the lockscreen inadvertently, it froze(happened only one time)

However the pattern is If i put the phone is pant's pocket(which is a bit tight) when compared to shirt pocket, it freezes after 15-20 minutes(90% of time)

It never happened when put in Shirt pocket or kept on table.

I have also ensure that rotation is from 0-270 degree as well(0,90,180,270)

I think its due to new Gapps(since I have not installed the old gapps from built 22) or could be something else

Any logs which anyone would like me to post it to you, I will be more than happy to send u.

I will try to uncheck the dt2w feature and will monitor for sometime and check

Expecting a quick response and help

Thanks and regards

Hitesh Pande
[Sony Xperia ZL] foomanjackel:
I use carbon pretty much all the time, and have not had that issue. Sorry can't advise you how to fix, but since you are using 4.4.4 KitKat...why not use gapps for 4.4.4?

Don't know if it will help, but I use banks gapps Which work perfectly for me, from here:

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/themes-apps/standard-minimal-gapps-t2012857http:// http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/themes-apps/standard-minimal-gapps-t2012857

Hope it helps
[Sony Xperia ZL] hitesh.pande:
Hi,

Thanks for quick response.

I think i have the latest gapps(google play 4.9.13 and can offline search with google now as checked from the thread posted)

I have disabled the dt2w feature and since the phone will now wake up,it solves the problem for now

got a message from alx as well that he had tried to fix the dt2w feature in 25th built.However it bootloops when i tried it flash and alx acknowledged that it bootloops and he is working on it

just reminder:: It worked all fine and didn't have this earlier . It just started after downloading the build after 22nd

one more thing noticed:

1. when i download the android L theme for cm11, the "people contacts" showed all washed up as the font color shows white in white background

Anyone has this problem?

regards

Hitesh