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[Asus Transformer TF700] lmmohr4:
Confused...

In the OP it says "You must be on bootloader" 14.10. "if coming from another rom base". I'm on 14.8. That won't work?

Also I think I've seen others using KK internal with Zombi as Rom2SD. (or vice-versa) Isn't that mixing roms?

Straighten me out, please.

Thanks,

LMM
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Your bootloader is different and separate from your rom. You can run CM11, OMNI rom, CROM-X and many more roms on the same bootloader - it just has to be the correct one for that rom ;)

Your .8 should be fine for any KK rom. If I remember correctly _that stated the only difference between .8 and .10 was the version number :D

The whole purpose of rom2sd is "mixing" roms. As in: running one on internal and another on external. You just have to flash the same kernel with both since they share it.
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
10.6.1.14.4 and 10.6.1.14.8 are identical except the few bytes for version number, build date, and digital signature. 10.6.1.14.10 has more changed bytes, but all of them seem to be only because the longer version number causes all following strings to be moved by one byte.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Just got my 64g micro-sd card, and have installed zombi-x on it. Runs fine. But now I am wondering the obvious. Can I install the Crombi-KK on *internal* now, since I already installed Zombi-X external? Do I remove the micro-sd card and tell crombi-kk to install internally, or do I tell crombi-kk to install rom2sd even though the micro-sd card is not there? Sorry for my confusion....

"Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing" - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard

------ Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next -----
[Asus Transformer TF700] NapalmDawn:
For those who are interested in finding good cards for use with the rom and data on SD card scenarios, I recall there being a fairly solid amount of card resources on the Nook forums. Nooks can boot up and run a rom off an SD card similar to the way windows could boot from a floppy. Due to this, lots of people went and tested cards and ranked them and a class 10 sometimes was worse than a class 4.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
The easiest way to do this is install crombi-kk on internal and then reinstall zombi-x to external.

Boot with the card in to go to zombi and with the card out to go to crombi ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Thank you. Hehehe.... I did that, and since I'd just installed today did a "dirty" install of Zombi over itself. That way my apps and settings don't have to be restored manually via Titanium or some such.

And hey... where does a soul offer up a bit of coffee money to such as yourself?

"Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing" - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard

------ Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next -----
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Donate button :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] lmmohr4:
Great explanation. As I said, keep trainin' me.

Thanks

lmm
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
I am so ridiculous. But now that this baby is really smokin', how does Zombi deal with an external IR blaster? Say one of those 7 dollar stereo jack plug-ins from ebay? Or maybe a USB one? I know... that's really left field.

"Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing" - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard

------ Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next -----
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mikerla:
This has to be a rom2sd installation for zombie-x correct?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Yes. It worked that way.

[added later:] My original question was really trying to get at the order of how one creates the dual-booting micro-sd setup. The ROM first installed is the one that goes on the internal memory. The ROM installed next, with ROM2SD1 enabled, is the external ROM. After that, if the micro-sd card is inserted before boot, the external ROM boots up when the machine is turned on. If the external card is removed before boot and the machine is turned on, the original (internal) ROM boots up.

As long as the ROM is enabled w/ the ROM2SD1 hack (and both Crombi-KK and Zombi-X are) it can be installed internally or externally. Zombi internal or external, Crombi internal or external. Ya could even have the same ROM on both.

One issue I've not yet fully understood is what happens if I want to upgrade the internal ROM (say we've got Crombi-KK and a newer version comes out). Do I then have to reinstall my Zombi-X to reinable ROM2SD1?

"Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing" - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard

------ Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next -----
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
Parting gift :)

1XU34291M4281182F

Thank you!
[Asus Transformer TF700] drewski_1:
this is how it's currently working for me. a new flash on Internal breaks something needed for ROM2SD to be recognized so I dirty flash the ROM2SD ROM (and Asus Apps) to re-enable it.

there may be an easier way. need to take a look the ROM2SD thread.

but, hopefully [MENTION=518363]sbdags[/MENTION] will re-introduce the ROM2SD Compatibility option that's in the CROMi-X installer in a future release of the KK (or L) ROMs.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Precisely what I ended up doing. Yes, some sort of installable ROM2SD1 switch for the internal rom -- even if the external card isn't inserted when the internal rom is installed -- would be great.

Asus Apps. I've held off there due to the (allegedly) upcoming 2.1 release on its way, and because 2.0 was said to be dysfunctional w/ Zombi-X b9. What are you using?

"Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing" - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard ------ Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next -----
[Asus Transformer TF700] drewski_1:
i have Zombi-b9 Internal with no Asus Apps package installed & CROMBi-kk on ROM2SD w/ Asus Apps, so it was the CROMBi + Asus i was referring to in my post.

more generally, if you have other stuff installed in /system for your ROM2SD ROM, they probably will need to be re-flashed after the dirty flash of the ROM2SD ROM
[Asus Transformer TF700] lmmohr4:
My understanding is that booting to recovery with the External SD card removed automatically puts you pointing to Internal for a rom flash. (Unless you run Rom2SD1.zip which points the rom flash to the external sdcard.

Correct me if I'm wrong.

Thanks,

lmm
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
I use rom2sd1.zip religiously. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Every reboot will point TWRP towards internal no matter if the card is in or out.

On the last versions sbdags added an auto-detect feature in Aroma.

If you flash "as rom2sd" and TWRP is pointed towards internal it will do the equivalent of flashing rom2sd.zip.

If it is pointed to external already it won't change that. Unless you install to internal naturally.

So you only need rom2sd1.zip if you want to perform wipes, backups or restores on the external partitions.

Nifty, he? [emoji6]
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
Yes nifty :). But I like to do it to. [emoji12]
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
There's no arguing with religion.. ?
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Or blind stubborness lol :D

Whichever way they both achieve the same thing - just one is more efficient, the other is redundant ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mikerla:
thanks for your teams work

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[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Thank you very much for the donation - I'll make sure they get their share :) :good:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ozark_8125:
I'm assuming this also goes for data2sd?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Haven't seen Antutu scores mentioned here... but with Zombi-X and ROM2SD1, using a 64g micro-sd card, I crushed the normal Antutu score listed here:

http://www.antutu.com/view.shtml?id=126

It was 14000 something... my result was 20259 or so. So if you haven't looked into ROM2SD1, maybe you should!

This seemed directly linked to the ROM, so I posted it here. Instruct me if I should have posted it in the questions thread.

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
Got my Samsung Galaxy Tab S today. Out of the box I got 18,761 on Quadrant. It's a really nice machine :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Self-censored.
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
Oh my gosh, no!

I've been part of this community for 2 years. Just thought I'd share a little on my new experience, with current tech. Sorry if it came off as anything other than that.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Just most of us here are enjoying our TF700 machines, so the seeming need to diss them and hype another machine seemed somehow inappropriate. That said, I'm deleting my previous post cuz it does come off rude. Sorry about that.

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
What's the most stable kernel with this Rom?
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
Not a diss. I have complete respect for the devs and users alike in here. But I also see how one could read more (or less) into that than I intended. I'm still interested in the continued development of this ROM.

Bro-hugs all around. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ozark_8125:
Has anyone else tried to mount a camera via MTP? I get a dialog box that opens up asking to open camera via G+ or Gallery, but either choice will FC on me. Using by the usb adapter to mount my Nikon SLR
[Asus Transformer TF700] bschmidy10:
Got a 22159 score on antutu... Best I've ever seen on on this device. And it's buttery smooth and great battery life. Fantastic work!

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[Asus Transformer TF700] hardslog:
They are all pretty much perfectly stable on this rom, just some have a few different features than the others.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Essentrix:
Sounds good; what setup? Are you using ART?
[Asus Transformer TF700] bschmidy10:
ART, pegasusq, deadline, "aggressive" preset for memory management.

Grimlock 4.0 kernel at 1.8 ghz
[Asus Transformer TF700] Essentrix:
OIC Gridlock. I'm using CROMi-X on interior so can't use that kernel. Looks good though!
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
So I'm never satisfied. Tonight I went for ART over Dalvik.

Here's with Dalvik, Zombi-X, F2FS, ROM2SD1:

Here's with ART and otherwise the same as above:

Wow. It may only be a test... but wow.

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] Ozark_8125:
Hey all - was messing around and did a reinstall of my data2sd f2fs setup and since I couldn't get the partition reformatted properly as f2fs in twrp. I pulled out my usb live disk.. Unfortunately my usb drive was corrupted. Reinstalled the new gparted .20 beta2 and nice new feature is that after formatting to f2fs, it actually reports the partition as a f2fs partition rather than 'unknown'. Gives me a little peace of mind feeling like it's actually properly formatted.. I know... it's OCD.. :cyclops:
[Asus Transformer TF700] bgtex:
SuperSU update?

There is a SuperSU update to v2.14 we are using v2.02.

Should we update? If so should I do anything besides a nandroid BU then update from play store?
[Asus Transformer TF700] lj50036:
SU is going to change on the next release anyway.... :D

But yes you should be able to update it right from the play store ....

Thx Josh
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Did you say "next release"? Hmmm.... tell me more! (Hehhehe!)

But hey, a few general questions I don't recall being answered (but probably were somewhere)...

1. If I've gone from Dalvik to ART and a new version of Zombi-X is available, can I just install it "dirty" over the ART-installed version or does using ART require a clean (factory wipe) install? I ask because ART of course writes the data in a quite different way than does Dalvik; unless the installer is smart enough to pick up that ART is my default, it would go to Dalvik and all sorts of pain would likely ensue. Soft brick city?!

2. Does Zombi-X have nightlies, or is it just an "every so often" ROM?

3. How did sdbags get that amazing 9000 score w/ Quadrant? I thought I'd set up as he did but the very best I've gotten was a still-amazing 7900. I did it set up this way: Running Zombi-X w/ _that kernel and ROM2SD1; F2FS data partitiion; ART (rather than Dalvik); Fsync off. I am running my screen resolution at standard resolution, and wonder if that higher number came in part by going one step down (from 1900 to 1600?).

That's it so far... ;)

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] f_padia:
Hi all, I've recently acquired a tf700 and I quickly tried all the different ROMs and have settled for this because it's lovely and smooth. However, I have noticed that there are quite a few lags e.g. When switching the screen on it can take up to 3 or 4 seconds sometimes. At other times too it can lag. I used to have a hp touchpad with Android installed I didn't used to have these lags so was just wondering if it is normal for the tf700. I'm running a completely standard setup ie installed internally, no f2fs or rom2sd or anything. Pegasus governor @ 1.8ghz and deadline scheduler. ART enabled.

Thanks
[Asus Transformer TF700] hardslog:
We are just working at integrating su right into the builds. The legendary wizard (some people know him as [MENTION=5123642]lj50036[/MENTION] ) got it to work so that is ONE of the things you can expect in the next release. I won't say anymore for now :p

1) If you update Zombi-X, I believe when it flashes it will revert to dalvik (and for good reason, as ART is still a little sketchy on KitKat). You should have to worry about a soft brick, but always clean cache and dalvik between flashes (which is an option in Aroma)

2) Zombi-X does not have nightlies. It is an ever so often rom when something big enough gets added that we deem a new release necessary :laugh:

3) The 9000 score he got was actually from Crombi-KK, but you can get similar scores in Zombi-X, such as:

Don't listen to Quadrant though. As someone I know would say, the quadrant scores are just a bunch of "old wank". Antutu will give a better indication of benchmarks as it actually gets updated but keep in mind it is easy to fake benchmark scores.

And as an aside - this score was with f2fs data2sd 1800GHZ and 650GHZ gpu with a special build of the Grimlock kernel that TF700 users can't get (because it uses a toolchain that it cannot handle for some reason. It causes all sorts of weirdness)
[Asus Transformer TF700] awilson77584:
Looks like it is time to try f2fs again. I'm using ext4 with data2sd. F2FS is next ... I guess

... compelled to flash and tinker //sigh
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
I know your plight all to well. [emoji12]
[Asus Transformer TF700] kf-ics-dan:
Any plans for ZOMBi-Lollipop? ZOMBiPop-X :laugh:
[Asus Transformer TF700] fatboyinlycra:
Isn't that a kind of dance music?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Well, let's do this right.

Chordettes - Lollipop: http://youtu.be/3rYoRaxgOE0

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
I'm thinking ZOMBI-LOLz? LOMBI-Z? :laugh::silly::eek:
[Asus Transformer TF700] drewski_1:
LOBOTOMi-Z
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
You got my vote!!

Hahahhahahahahaha
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Wait for it..... Wait..........

** LOLLIBOT!!! **

Of COURSE.

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] DavidHart:
2 Issues + 1 question

I installed Zombi-X b9 _that kernel on my TF700T. So far, just about everything is smooth and works well. However, I do have 2 issues and 1 question. This was a clean install with fsync turned on and running from the internal memory.

First the issues:

1. I use my TF700 tablet while on vacation to backup photos from a USB card reader to microSD cards. I use the ASUS USB 40 pin adapter. To mount the card reader, and other USB storage devices, I use StickMount Pro. In order to get StickMount to mount USB devices I had to run an App called USB Host Check and click on Fix. According to the App documentation, this makes some changes to android to enable OTG and USB mounting. I don't remember having to do this on CROMi. Is this a bug or is this just a standard setting?

Before USB Hot Check Fix: ES File Explorer would mount the USB device and I could browse it just this App. Other USB mount apps, including StickMount, would say that the device was mounted but you couldn't browse the folders. I could launch MX Player through ES File Explorer to play BluRay HD videos (10GB) but they were slow, jittery, and seeking would take forever.

After USB Hot Check Fix: StickMount is able to mount USB drives and you can browse the files from other apps, including MX Player. Video in MX Player is smooth even for BluRay HD videos (10GB). Seeking to a different time in the video is instantaneous.
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2. The battery graph stops drawing. I use the battery graph as an indicator whether I have a battery hungry app, especially when the tablet is not charging and is supposed to be sleeping. I never had this problem with CROMi, but did have this issue with CROMBi-KK. I noticed that if I hit reset a couple of times on the battery tab it comes back but then will stop drawing again. I'm thinking that it might be a sleep issue.

Suggestion:

1. I noticed that there isn't a performance icon (change performance mode) in the quick settings dropdown in the upper right corner. Are there any plans to add this?

Thanks,

David
[Asus Transformer TF700] big_sea:
So I'm on the original release of this, and was performing great for a couple months. Now all of a sudden it is just slow and laggy. I run f2fs, rom2sd, and data2sd

Anything to check before I do a clean install?
[Asus Transformer TF700] kf-ics-dan:
Reboot into recovery, clear cache, reboot, enjoy! That always works for me when things slow down.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Curious.... any of this lag particularly connected to chrome? I just upped the maximum mem usage on mine to 512 and it seems much faster....

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] lartomar2002:
Where in settings do you change the memory settings or do you use a app?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
An article about it here: http://www.wired.com/2014/05/speed-up-chrome/

The actual tweak url (change from "default" to "512") - chrome://flags/#max-tiles-for-interest-area

Blessings.

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Nice find! It's snappy as hell! This may actually lure me away from the stock browser!
[Asus Transformer TF700] lj50036:
I wonder if we can modify the apk....

Something to look into .... :D

Thx Josh
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
I wonder if you can modify the Asus stock apk, since it is based on the Chrome engine?
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Yes, I went spelunking re Chrome because the stock browser was so quick -- as is the rest of Zombi-X -- but Chrome started fast and turned into bog land in no time. The 512 tweak was fairly night and day, I think. Glad it is useful, and think also it puts a bit the lie to the idea that such lags are the TF700's fault... I've noted folks w/ other hardware grousing about Chrome being laggy....

By the way, unrelated but a request for the next Zombi version... could we get a "Kill All" button to pop up when one activates the running apps view? (Timduru's TF101 KatKiss has that, and it is a cool addition...). ;)

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
If anyone is curious (as I was), the tweak above can be found here:

http://lifehacker.com/speed-up-chrome-for-android-with-this-settings-tweak-1555623190

Made a big difference for me in Chrome performance (on another device).
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
I don't know about the first 2 but on your last point Zombi deliberately doesn't use modes. Go into the settings and set the speed you want yourself.
[Asus Transformer TF700] awilson77584:
Is there clear information on what happens to cause the slowdown? The reboot and life is better remedy has a windows magic incantation support model feel. //smile

The next question, is it feasible to make that "bad thing" not happen? Or is it an Android design flaw? :fingers-crossed:

Thanks!
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
There is one sure thing you can do to avoid this: Do not ever use it. :laugh:

Sorry - couldn't resist.. Don't wanna be a smart a** , but have you ever had any kind of machine where performance did not deteriorate over time? Stuff you install and uninstall, apps write stuff all over the place, less-than-perfect app updates - crud just accumulates. It actually doesn't bother me on Android devices since it's so easy to reflash the whole OS, clear out everything and get a fresh start.

Compare that to a re-installation of Windows!! My Win7 machine was slowing down badly this year and just the thought of re-installing it gave me nightmares. Opted instead for a SSD and transferred the whole messed up system. Should be good for another year or so - I hope...
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Probably topic drift here, but another feature of Android I just can't believe the usefulness of -- esp. using TWRP or another recovery system to make it so easy -- is making "Nandroid" backups. When you have your system just how you want it... make a Nandroid! Takes about five minutes or so, maybe a little longer if you're an app junkie big-time. Then make safe copies of the Nandroid backups elsewhere. When the system starts to crawl, give it the ol' factory reset and don't even bother reinstalling... just Nandroid a Restore! I'm tellin' ya, it is a beautiful thing... as long as you remember to make that Nandroid back up in the first place.

Sent from my TF700 running Zombi-X ROM or whatever comes next - 'Purity of Heart is to Will One Thing' - that ol' Jesus Freak Soren Kierkegaard
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
Instead of accepting deteriorating performance as a fact of life we should find the technical reasons for the slowdown and fix them. In fact, I've reinstalled my desktop Linux OS only once in the past 11 years - and only because I switched from x86 to amd64.
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Ah yes! But that's for geniuses like you! We pedestrians have to cope until you find the solution! :victory:
[Asus Transformer TF700] Jbb3393:
Edit: mod please delete
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
I am hopeful ART may be an answer to some of the lag issues. And by the way, it is an honor to be talking w the author of my android kernel! Blessings,
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
Sometimes it takes a lot of time to figure stuff out. But that doesn't mean you need to be a genius to do it. You need to understand the basics of the scientific method and know how to use Google and read. That's all. :)

ART will run Dalvik code faster, but it will probably not fix the "random" slowdowns caused by other factors like the eMMC. And by the way, I wrote less than 0.001% of your kernel. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] BxMxK:
Speaking of... did you see the post about io monitoring http://xdaforums.com/android/software-hacking/script-iotop-android-t2910428 ? Been busy with the army and I havent had a lot of time to look but I only found the first of the prerequisite configs in your kernel setup. Seems like a good way to find and address any and all issues caused by IO on the tf700.