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[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I purchased a cheap small square powermat that was made for a iPhone 3G (It came with a charge case for the iPhone) for about 8 bucks delivered on Amazon. When I put my charging sticker on yesterday, I plopped the phone on it and it worked great. But the charging pad had an indentation in it that matched the bump in the case that put the charging part closer to the pad. When I put my TPU case on the phone it would not charge. It would start to charge and then stop. I don’t blame in on the cheap powermat, but rather I am using it for something other than it was designed. I also ordered a second charger for 20 bucks that is a duel charger (Charges two devices) that comes with a back up battery pack as a bonus. This one is flat. It will be here tomorrow and I hope that one works with my case. If I have to take the case off to charge my phone, I could just as easily plug it in so why bother. I will probably get a few more of the 8 buck ones, but with flat mats for my office at home and at work.
[AT&T LG G3] sic0048:
Dang dude. I'm all for paying you for your efforts (although lets be honest, it hasn't been a lot), but there is no way I'm paying you a 50% premium over buying retail. Obviously others are free to do what they want. 300 coils with at least a $10 premium (and it's probably more - the supplier should have cut you a quantity discount off retail since you bought in bulk) = $3000 profit. All you did was send them a phone and a few emails......

No thanks. I'll be buying direct from the supplier. http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...or-LG-G3-CASE-D850-AT/1034479_2043795555.html
[AT&T LG G3] Wickidmasshole:
I bought a bumper case so the back is exposed and ive had smooth sailing with the duracell mat (http://www.ebay.com/itm/40076147382...49&var=670305161031&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT) looks like they only have red left, but this bumper is top quality i am very impressed with it. The small mat refused to charge the phone with this on it. i had to take the case off completely to get it to charge, the most annoying part was finding the sweet spot on the damn thing to even get it to work. this normally took me 10 times of sliding it around just to get it to charge. like i said the Duracell dual sided mat works awesome and i don't have to mess around with the placement bc the mat gives you a small magnetic pull and usually puts you right on the spot the first time.
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
You sir, are an ass. I didn't see you getting off your lazy butt to get this going to the community. If you are not willing to give this guy an extra $10 for making this happen, not only are you a cheap skate but also a poor XDA community member.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Let me see....I still have to pay the cost of shipping, shipping materials (packaging, labels, etc.) and of course a little for my time. You think the manufacturer isn't making profit either? You think they work for free or break even?

My efforts hasn't been a lot? If it wasn't for me sending the manufacturer the phone, you still wouldn't have these chips. I don't even have AT&T so I could of let you people figure it out. Secondly, I don't even have AT&T, and AT&T wouldn't even let me buy the phone outright unless it was put under someones AT&T account. So I had to have a friend help me. People ask questions, I answer them or I try and get answers for whoever asked by contacting manufacturer. If you look at the 25 pages so far, all my responses have been immediate. All my updates have been up to date with any delays and info I get from the manufacturer. If that is not effort/service, I don't know what is.

A few emails? HAHAHA. I can show you my emails to the manufacturer but what's the point of proving you wrong? What would I gain out of it other than making you look at an idiot?

There's always people like you. Same with the Qi. People wanted Qi chips for their VZ, Tmo, Sprint but no one wanted to make the effort to help others. When I go out of my way to dish out a few thousand dollars to buy the chips and make a group buy going for people to order, there's always one or two people who complain that I'm charging a little more than the manufacturer. No one is forcing you to buy from me. You can buy from the manufacturer if you want. They're making a profit as well. Same with buying from eBay. You don't think the ones selling on eBay is making a profit as well? I did all the grunt work by providing the actual device to the manufacturer and getting it to the market for everyone but they capitalize on it. Am I mad? No. Everyone needs to make a living. For me, I already have a full time job.

And I'm not denying I'm making a little something from selling these. But it helps with bills, setting up and preparing for our newborn in December. And with my major car accident 2 days ago (other driving running a stop sign and me t-boning them), a little something can go a long way of repairing a car or getting a new car and even hospital bills. Luckily for me, I'm fine but my concern was for my 8 month pregnant wife.

People complain that there is nothing for their phone or carriers aren't releasing anything. But when someone helps to bring that to the market and get it stateside, people ***** and moan that they're paying a premium over the manufacturer. Regardless, people will ***** and moan because if they aren't helping the cause, they have nothing better to do than sit behind the computer and do just that.

As others have said whether its you or anyone else that don't appreciate what I have done...what have any of you done? Exactly...nothing. And you're a bit late to the show, another buddy of yours already did the same thing and made a new thread with the same intentions. Kudos to you and your lack of efforts.
[AT&T LG G3] russ9127:
Works great! Thank you for all your hard work. Quick question though. I took of the old sticker and intstalled the new one. With the new charging sticker it is quite hard to get the back to snap on all the way. I read of people taking the charging sticker out of the circle case and installing it into the backs of the stock cover, pretty much the same as we did here, and they had issues with the screen bulging up over time. Is this something I should worry about? Is there a way to make it go on with less pressure?

Thanks as always!
[AT&T LG G3] dwaded:
I received my chip today. I've tried several times installing it. I can't get it to work.

I bought a Powermat for an S3 that came with a wireless case for the S3. I installed it on my old S3 and it charges wirelessly just fine, so I know the charger works.

I've watched the install videos and it looks like its in the right place. Any suggestions?

Don
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
If this is a galaxy s3, I am pretty sure that is a qi charging pad and not a powermat. They are different. You need a different mat.

I reread your message, and I am probably wrong. But check it out just in case.
[AT&T LG G3] Wickidmasshole:
bro. you need a PMA charging mat not a QI charging mat. i suggest a Duracell Power-mat due to they work the best in my experience
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Sorry, I can't answer that as I don't own a AT&T version. Only way I can think of that may relieve some pressure is removing the magnet.

Can you post a picture of your charging base that you used for yours S3? This will help in determining any issues. The only Powermat S3 I see are on Amazon and the case is big and clunky.

If you indeed have the right charging base and you do have a problem, it's more than likely the installation. As I mentioned, a slight movement will make a difference.
[AT&T LG G3] dwaded:
This is what I bought. I thought the ad mentioned PMA, but I rechecked the ad and I don't see PMA or QI mentioned.

I don't see anything on the box either that says what the charger is. Anyone know how to find out?

My Galaxy S3 is from ATT , and I thought all their phones were PMA charged, so thats why I think/thought the charger is working as PMA, since the S3 is being charged.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Try realigning the sticker.
[AT&T LG G3] dwaded:
Ok. I'll either try it some more when I get off work tonight, or when I get up tomorrow. Thanks
[AT&T LG G3] thcue:
Okay guys to save you all headaches don't follow that video. Instead place the sticker so it aligns with the plugs laying on the battery make sure the sticker is off etc. THEN place the cover over it that way YOU know its dead on spot. Just my 2 cents instead of guessing the placement. And once the cover is on guess what? it will stick to it no guess LOL :highfive: then add the sticky tape etc.
[AT&T LG G3] Psylacus:
Case that PMA can charge through?

I just installed the PMA chip and it works fine. However I have a thin - and I mean then rubber/plastic-y case. It will not charge through it. I have had QI devices that have charged the the case. Anyone else find and LG G3 case that the PMA can charge through?

Maybe my chip isn't aligned enough or something, Anyone have any ideas?
[AT&T LG G3] dwaded:
Ok latest update. I tried this, and I got it to work...sort of. Once I set the phone on the powermat, it will only charge for a couple seconds, and then the powermat stops charging it. It does this everytime. Any suggestions?

I'm going to bed and tackle it again in the morning.
[AT&T LG G3] Mastershroom:
[MENTION=5956922]iazybandit[/MENTION], false alarm on the little contact pad sticker...turns out it was somehow stuck to the PMA sticker itself, sticky side to sticky side, so it was black on black. I got it off and in position, and put the heatsink sticker over it all.

Now that I've had a couple days to use it, it definitely works just as well as the official Quick Circle PMA case. In fact, this sticker's magnetic center pulls it right to the perfect spot on my Powermat way more strongly than the case's, which has a much weaker magnetic pull. I'd actually be interested in trying to get a stronger magnet like the one in these stickers to splice into the Circle case, since when I have the case on my G3 I pretty much have to guess at the placement on the Powermat without magnetic assistance.
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
This is what mine does with a tpu case on. It works fine without the case. But I blame this on the charging mat because my mat is not flat. It was made for a charging case that had a bump in it. I am getting a flat charging mat in today and I will let you know if it charges with the tpu case on.
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
This is also what mine does with a TPU case on. With no case. it charges like a champ. I bought two mats to try and both are flat:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0082YVBMW/

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00462QB4C/

I actually prefer the second one. So I guess now, I need to find a TRUE bumper case without a back. Anyone have any recommendations?
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
Yes, the flat one came today. It is the Duracell power-mat with the spare battery which is same as the first one you list, except mines black. Great charger, great spare battery, but just like the small charger, it won't charge my phone with the case on. Major disappointment. Let me know how you make out on your case search. Someone pointed out a bumper case on eBay that they bought and it worked fine, but all they had left was red. My last three phones have all had TPU cases and I have been very happy. My iPhone 4 had a bumper chase that they gave me when they had that antenna issue, and it was good too. I will start looking.
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
Not charging with a tpu case is indeed super disappointing.

That bumper case is also available on Amazon here http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00MW46QNC but black is sold out. And the blue color is apparently more a teal than blue.
[AT&T LG G3] Psylacus:
Ya still on the hunt, bumper cases are always interesting as they often time lead to destroyed back of the phones... especially in womens purses lol. Anyway have any luck with another full cover case?
[AT&T LG G3] dwaded:
Well I rearranged it a few more times and got it to work.

It won't, however, work when I put my Otterbox Defender case on, or my Seidio Dilex case. With either case, when I put the phone on the powermat, the mat makes the charging up sound, but then immediately makes the power down sound.

Anyone out there that did this mod able to use the powermat with either of these cases on?

Don
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
I ordered http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MW46OLQ...lets see how this one works.
[AT&T LG G3] codemansGT:
so has anyone been able to get an nfc tag to work but not wireless charging. I swear I have moved the sticker around and tried it on different chargers to get it to work and nothing. I would say wireless charging is borked on my phone but the quickcircle case worked before I ripped the sticker out of it.
[AT&T LG G3] tallguy:
Tip and Review

[MENTION=4030656]codemansGT[/MENTION], I nearly threw it the towel after several failed adjustments. On my final attempt I moved that little spacer sticker right under the two bottom contacts (the two for wireless charging) and once again lined up the chip placement as instructed by the female voiced video, and it worked. I did not test NFC while PMA wireless charging was not working so I can't answer your question. However, if you have a US passport and an NFC reader app you can easily do it yourself. Mine is working. I have even removed and replaced the cover a couple of times since and it still works.

To confirm what many have stated; It does charge with no case. With my relatively thick case, it does not charge. This bums me out because I really like the protection and the divider between the buttons and camera it offered.

Wireless charging is at USB 2.0 speeds (maybe a little faster) which is about half the speed of the LG G3's included charging cable. There is significant bulk inside the cover now. This makes it harder to close and causes the lower part of the cover to bulge out a bit below the control buttons. I suspect this gap might hinder the devices inherent water resistance. I also think this bulging is what is keeping the chip's contacts from properly connecting with the phone's internal contacts. Some of you who still can't get it to work might want to experiment with homemade spacers to place under the chip's contacts if the trick I used doesn't work.

I'd also like to point out that I was concerned that the magnet might cause problems with the phone's magnetometer. While I haven't done any thorough technical comparison regarding any change accuracy or sensitivity it still seems to work.

Tested with:

Duracell Powermat 24-Hour Power System for iPhone 4/4s - Black

Spigen Slim Armor Case for LG G3 - Retail Packaging - Gunmetal

Sorry I can't post links. In the decade I've been using this site I haven't posted enough times to get authorization.

Welcome to the world of early adopters! I'd expect to see new revisions and or replacement covers with integrated chips in the near future which should better address these issues.
[AT&T LG G3] unknownnoob:
Installed the PMA chip last night.. Had to reposition it 2x before it started to work.. I have the blackberry pma pad which was 6.99$ and it works perfectly. I have a spigen case on it and just like everyone else... It doesnt charge through the case... But thats ok. I still appreciate everything.
[AT&T LG G3] dontremember:
If you have a magnifying glass, take a look at the contact area on the sticker. You'll see indents where the contacts on the phone dug into it. Use those as a guide to reposition the sticker. It took me a couple of tries to get both charging and NFC working.

I got a cheap Blackberry powermat that won't charge through a TPU case. I'll probably invest in something stronger in a few weeks.
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
Let us know how you make out. I have not read of anyone here with any charger that is able to charge through a case as of yet. (Except backless bumpers)
[AT&T LG G3] xraytedjim:
Finally got my chip installed. I had to do like was previous mentioned in placing the sticker on the phone to line up the contacts, then sticking the back on to get it to stick in the correct position. Positioning it manually on the battery door did not work for me. I also cannot get it to work through any sort of case. I have 6 of them and NONE of them work! I am really disappointed in this as taking the case on and off offsets the convenience factor wireless charging. Wireless charging is good because you can just set it and forget it. If I have to pry my case off, then it's a useless feature. Also the magnet on the sticker is too thick and the case will not properly close causing a potential entry point for dust and/or water. I would recommend OP address these issues with the manufacturer before shipping out additional units.

1) Battery door does not close all the way because of the thickness of the magnet.

2) Wireless charging will not work through even the thinnest of cases.

I'm disappointed to say the least. I realize the OP is just a regular guy trying to help us all out, however I've paid $50 for 2 chips that don't quite function as they should. With no case on, it DOES charge, but the battery door fitment is a concern. If there was a refund option, I would exercise it. For those on the fence, I would wait to see if there's a version 2 or a different seller that has a refund policy. I knew what I was getting into with the AT&T G3 and it's wireless charging nightmare PMA standard, but I'm extremely disappointed with the decision AT&T made.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
I will inform the manufacturer and see what they say. As for refunds, those who do offer refunds, will have to have the item UNUSED and UNINSTALLED. I can't even return the PMA's I received (I've asked in the past when I was offering the Qi's).

In regards to the bulge, some experience it and some don't. The Qi was also the same problem and it didn't have a magnet in it. Is the magnet removable where it won't damage the PMA?
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
My case fits like it should. No gaps. I will say, that the first time I put the sticker in I could not close the case tightly. When I realigned it and got it to work, the case fit snugly. Not sure why some can and some can't, maybe tweak the sticker alignment.

As for the case charging issue, I am thinking of cutting a hole in the back of my TPU case where the magnet is about 1" in diameter to see if that works.

I would simply buy a backless bumper case but there are none to be had, except in some loud colors.
[AT&T LG G3] Salsbury:
Great, now I am kinda kicking myself because I did not wait and see some of the problems people are having with the chips before ordering. I loved the idea of wireless charging my phone with my slim diztronic case on and now $50($30chip/$20wireless plate) later, it looks like its not going to happen =-/.
[AT&T LG G3] dontremember:
Hmm. First step might be to locate retail stores that sell them and ask them for a demo.
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
The other issue I am having is once it charges to 100% I keep getting the disconnect then reconnect noises over and over. My wife woke me up last night to ask what the heck was going on with my nightstand. Anyone else have this issue?
[AT&T LG G3] thcue:
Not sure why people are having the problems? Blows me away really.. I did not follow the video instead like I posted before ..

I Peeled the sticker off {OEM one}

Placed the new PMA sticker on the battery so it lines up with the plugs

Put the cover on the phone { Did not put the sticker to the cover it will stick once you close your cover }

Tested Good 1st try ( was snug sure )

Pulled the cover back off placed the heat shield over the PMA sticker and put the cover back on. { Now that it stuck to the cover and in the correct spot }

Charging every day and charges FAST. Having no issues even with a SupCase on THIS ONE. Using a Duracell power mat THIS ONE

The only thing different is mine was off Ebay, but I bet they are all the same PMA stickers. From the picks everything looks the same etc.

[MENTION=2853750]shaxs[/MENTION] sound like your bumper sticker that goes under the PMA connectors or miss aligned a tad and is hairy.
[AT&T LG G3] bolillo:
To some of the people having issues with the phone not charging and the pad making sounds that it starts but stops refer to this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2863929 it talks about some phones having issues with pma and at&t exchanging them
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
Here is what my sticker looks like (attached).

This is what a 100% battery does on the charger: http://youtu.be/4ybOtscsSSc

This is what a non-full battery looks like on the charger: http://youtu.be/FKo-Qvw1jHE
[AT&T LG G3] shimbob:
Received my PMA sticker, along with a powermat.

I have peeled the magnet off, and charging still works. The magnet's purpose only seems to be to make the phone snap into position, it charges just fine without. It takes some time to figure out where exactly the phone should be on the charger but it works. I'm wondering about using an xacto knife to cut into the thick pad perfectly around the magnet so that the magnet would sit flush within the thick pad. Pretty sure there's no wires there.

To me, it's pretty obvious this phone wasn't designed to have a thick PMA sticker inside. Even with the magnet removed, you can see around the VolumeDown button that the fitting is just crap and the cover is not sitting flush.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Can someone upload a video showing the PMA chip installed and than placed on to mat with case on? Either upload the video to YouTube or upload the file to me.

PM me with link to video or file to download.
[AT&T LG G3] netjack:
I'm having the same issues - I'm using the powermat (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B003CJTJ9O/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o06_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1).

Which one are you using?
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Is it the "Battery Fully Charged" message? If so, I get this even with the USB cable.
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
Thanks for the suggestion, but not too many vendors in my area would carry a bumper case for a G3. And if they did, they would also have to have the power mat to try it, or I guess I could bring my own power mat. The AT&T store where I got the phone only carries the circle case and places like Walmart have plenty of iPhone cases and a few of the Samsung cases, but that's about it.

I ordered one from china off of eBay for $2.04 delivered. They started popping up over the past two days. I am hoping somewhere down the line, they will sell a replacement back with the sticker installed that will work through most cases.

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What is happening to his phone is that once it is fully charged on the power mat, the phone wireless charging chimes keep cycling off and on. But when you place an uncharged the phone on the charger it charges ok, but once it reaches 100% he gets the chime cycle.
[AT&T LG G3] netjack:
I bought the duramat larger charger to see if I get the annoying chime cycle sound.
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
I have the larger duracell and will test it today.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Sounds like the same issue when I am using the USB cable. Once it reaches 100%, it disconnects and reconnects but says "Battery is fully charged".
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
Not quite. If you watch my video you will see it repeatedly cycling on and off. With Usb it may do it once.
[AT&T LG G3] sturmen:
What did you guys do to get the original sticker off the back plate? I tried to pull it off but then it ripped and now the big part is just there, and it's not being cooperative at all. Is there some technique to it or just good old-fashioned elbow grease?
[AT&T LG G3] sullysnet:
Is this still working fine without the magnet? How difficult was it to remove the magnet? If the magnet is not needed I would consider removing it. Does anyone have an idea what the magnet is used for?

thanks....
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Hmmm...mine would cycle often with cable. I would have to put my phone on silent when sleeping.

Get a blade or knife that has a sharp point. Get a hair dryer. Use the hair dryer to heat up the sticker so that the glue residue becomes soft and use the blade to help peel/lift up the sticker.

The magnet seems to just help gravitate the phone onto the powermat.
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
Well I slowly took mine off. There was a little residual but using a fingernail I got it off.