yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon LG G3] Umbrella Corp:
From my experience you cannot add a new APN while there is a Verizon Sim card on the phone. What I did was remove the Sim card, power on the phone( without the card) and then this will enable the option to add a new APN in Settings/mobile networks/access point names. From there click on the three dot overflow menu and select "add new APN".

At least that's how I remember I did it.

Let me know if it works.
[Verizon LG G3] sasquatch1:
It worked pretty good. We went to a 3three store and was able to buy a PAYG card for about $25 US. The tricky part was finding the right APN values to put in. Different websites sometimes had a little different info. But after fiddling a bit I got it to work.

My fiancée's AT&T iPhone 4s was a different matter. I thought all iPhones were GSM unlocked but nope. Couldn't use the one I bought her.
[Verizon LG G3] purplejokr:
I am headed to Asia soon and was wondering the same thing about my phone... As far as the APN edits go can one just edit the Verizon APN or will need to follow the steps above and remove the SIM, reboot, to clear the Verizon APN altogether and then enter the new APN?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Windows Mobile CE 6.0 is available for purchase / trial for 180 days. It comes with the source code and Visual Studio 2005 plugin.

So if there are any developers out there wishing to make modules and ROM's for any mobile device this is your chance. I personally am encoding and programming a Windows Crossbow ROM.

I think many programmers have already made Windows CE 6.0 ROM's out there and testing them before releasing it to public.

If there are any microsoft members around from TechNet or MSDN they would have good answers.

So i urge members to download the Windows CE 6.0 180 trial pack and play around till you are successful in building a new OS ROM for the Universal.

Actually this post is not only for the universal but all mobile devices.

Remember: (To run Crossbow / CE 6.0 the Universal is the perfect device).

Also there is a Crossbow ROM for HP HW6915 and HTC Hermes.

Free 180 day trial pack of a complete Windows CE 6.0 is available here
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
nuclear - what's your level of experience with Platorm Builder/VStudio?

Do you know why this wan't previously possible with Platform Builder + Win Mob 5?

v
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Mobile Devices

I have experience in VS C++ and VS Basic. I know that Mobile Device applications are not win32. Anyways i am still learning and getting around this new Windows CE 6. Did you download and try it yet?

I haven't even come accross installing it. I already have Visual Studio 2005 installed but i was recieving a missing file error during the installation of Windows CE 6.

I would be greatful for any help. :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] CWKJ:
Err... Thought it is WM5SE is CrossBow & WM6 is Photon?

WM CE is the compiler right?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Windows CE

Dont really know. I will touch base with you as soon as i get this thing going. Vijay should know.

Then developing WM6 i.e. Photon should be much better than Crossbow?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Whatever crossbow is, AFAIK you cannot compile a release rom with any publically released version of Platform Builder.

Remember, platform builder is for building WinCE and variants (including Windows Mobile). AFAIK not all of the source of Windows Mobile is available to non OEMs. So, although you could probably compile a virign WinCE build, for an intel reference board, it wouldn't out of the box support your camera, led driver, touch screen, processor, radio, wireless etc... there's a lot more to it then clicking build on Platform Builder. And even that's not easy! I haven't downloaded the new VS/PB download - too big and a pain in the ass. Anyone with a spare copy - I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a dvd-r (for the new PB trial. I have VS)

I may well be wrong, but hopefully I merely echo what the real brains have said in the past.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Drivers

Precisely, I was talking with cktlcmd about the issue. I plan on upgrading the hardware in my Universal. The vendor/manufacturer Intel/nVidia/hynix/atheros provide drivers along with their products i believe. I am very eager to solder and upgrade my Universal. Somebody(arc) was spamming on the forum earlier proving he had successfully performed a hardware upgrade. But after looking at the pictures he had posted i believed more that he was spamming :mad: .

Anyways Vijay I don't know how far I might get with this but eventually i might loose interest if it does not get anywhere. So you already have VS 2005 and you need PB?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] arc:
Collect ROM possible only having PB + BSP for device "Universal" (does MS for HTC) + renovation PB crossbow .BSP and renovation PB no in free accesses.

nuclear speak foolishness.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
arc, play nice. Not everyone plays with PB, and shouldn't!

Nuclear - I have Visual Studio 2005, and the older PB (WM5 era). I wouldn't mind a dvdr of the new Platform Builder/Visual Studio chimera, but frankly I'm not too fussed... VS/PB is so resource heavy, I don't think I'll manage installing it in parallel on my wimpy hard drive. Damn you Half Life 2!

As arc says, it's the mythical BSPs that open the door to building new custom roms for our devices. But these are so intensly vested with HTC's IP, that even if you had access to them, you'll probably find your door being knocked in very quickly by the Gestapo..

But, let me know if you know what you need to know :rolleyes:.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] arc:
vijay555 :D

I have did specially for nuclear new ROM for Universal - WINDOWS MOBILE PHOTON.

This ROM contains all drivers required for modernized Universal.

nuclear Write me in PM I give you special ROM.

Boys -I long ago so did not laugh :D

ALL do not write me in PM - I have no ROM -a Photon!!! Ask in Microsoft!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Guys, it doesn't need to be said: we've all heard that there are copies of Crossbow out for the Universal. I'd love to give it a go, but sigh, one plays the cards we're dealt. I'll stick with what I've got for now.

If and when we get public copies, I'm sure we'll all be up all night tweaking and freaking.

Crossbow CAN come to Uni. It MIGHT come to Uni. Be patient.

Frankly, I don't think it's that much of an improvement for me to wet my pants over... I can wait.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] mamaich:
I can prove that there IS a crossbow for universal.

This review - http://www.mobile-review.com/pda/articles/wm-crossbow-en.shtml is based on Uni. Though Crossbow is called WM6.0 in this review, internally it has version 5.2.

Crossbow has some features that were not mentioned in review, for example a different method of internet connection sharing (PC sees your device as a network adapter connected to internet), a "use high resolution" option for IE, new ringtones, etc.

It is just a matter of time until the OS would be released to public.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
I'm interested in the fullscreen 16bit remote desktop.... but certainly more v5.2 then v6.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] SpiriTwin:
Any one have a screenshots, or links to download?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] AlanJC:
It would be really nice if someone could at least give us the sounds, and ringtones from Crossbow to go along with our themes and skins ;)

(hint hint)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Pentium:
Good news...

anyone knows where we can get the Trial?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Windows Embedded CE 6.0 — codenamed "Yamazaki" — is the sixth major release of Windows Embedded Operating System targeted to Enterprise specific Tools such as Industrial Controller to Consumer Electronics devices like Digital Cameras. Windows Embedded CE 6.0 features a completely redesigned kernel, which supports over 32,000 processes, up from 32 process support of the previous versions. Each process receives 2 GB of virtual address space, up from 32 MB.

Windows Embedded CE 6.0 was released on November 1, 2006, and includes full source code.

Windows Embedded CE 6.0 is also the basis of Windows Mobile 6, codenamed "Photon"

The platform builder of Windows CE 6.0 can be downloaded off microsoft's website. It is important that you have Visual Studio 2005 professional installed on your PC.. recommended a dual core PC with a lot of RAM and 500GB hard drive.

From what i read on wiki it seems this is a really fast OS built for next generation phones. So i am also upgrading the hardware of Universal so it will support next generation OS and programs.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Pentium:
thanks for the info :)

anyway...it seems to be a cool OS...but what r u gonna upgrade in the Universal?

and do u think that O2 XDA Flame can handle that WM 6.0?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
I am going to upgrade the RAM in the Universal.

The O2 XDA Flame lacks one thing. This one thing wont get it far in the next 5-10 years. Its the same issue as the Universal - THE RAM!.. I like the nVidia video card on the XDA Flame but i think that video card is outdated. The TV Out is pretty cool but nowadays you can easily get a TV Out over SD or mini-USB.

Anyways the O2 XDA Flame is a nice phone and yes it can support the WCE 6 if RAM is upgraded.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] mamaich:
WM 6.0 is based on CE 5.2, so any device that can handle WM5 and have enough ROM - would run WM6 (32Mb in hima/ba are too small).

Windows Mobile based on CE 6.0 is under development. Code name "Photon", would be released in 2008 (WM7.0?). Nothing is known about this OS except for one document captured by google cache. So noone could tell would universal handle this OS or not.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Slave1:
Yes please.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] AlanJC:
The sounds are actually in the Helmi and Indra AKU3.3 ROM images. I love the ringtone, I have even put it on my K800i. Did not realise that played WMA files.

I must say the 3.3 is much cleaner and faster than 3.2 so far.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Slave1:
Any chance you can post them AlanJC?

I'm not realy looking at a ROM update yet.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
With all due respect, I think this poll is pointless. Will I use Crossbow? Will I use Photon? You're talking to a bunch of guys that obsess and upgrade phones probably more then once a year. Every point update gets dissected forensiclally. So, will we use the next OS version? Of course, we'll all upgrade in due course.

A better question is would you pay JUST to upgrade the OS, not the hardware? Any speculation of cost of an upgrade are just guesses, I can't recall many manufacturers providing such an option, other then the badly reveived Dell x50 WM5 upgrade.

But, if asked, would I pay $99 to ONLY upgrade the OS to Crossbow, I'd have to say no. It offers improvements, and looks nicer, but for most average users the changes are mostly marginal and cosmetic. For developers, it has good changes under the hood. Indeed, the better process loader and memory model will probably make it run MORE effectively on existing hardware then WM5. I would consider that a significant positive, but not a pant wetter for the average user.

<rant>

Nuclear, you mention RAM limitations. I've used PocketPCs on and off for quite a while, and certainly fulltime for 2 years. I've never found the ram to be a problem. I don't understand how users do - I run a lot of highend apps, but have no memory problems. You have to read the MSDN blogs to appreciate pros and cons of more RAM. Also the CPU developers' manuals.

But we have to understand that current hardware is great for what WinMob is right now. But WinMob is not a PSP, and that is my problem. Read this month's Economist - our phones do a bit of everything, but they're far from perfect. If I want to play proper games, I pick up my psp. WinMob needs graphic acceleration at a platform level - that will come with DirectX, but the ridiculous disparity between 2700 games and Dell x50* stuff (eg doom) to non accelerated standard Solitaire fare is what's holding it back... non gamer orientated button layouts, no tv-out, no standard GPU... that's what we need. Not new ringtones.

</rant>

:) V

ps. apologies for spelling errors. I'm sitting in court, sent from my Spazberry.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Slave1:
Nice rant Vijay ;)

I'm not sure if I'd upgrade my handset just to get crossbow, maybe for Photon.

But for now some new tones will do just nicely.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] kdskamal:
here is the ringtone..
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Slave1:
Thanks Kamal.

Are there any other sounds available?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] kdskamal:
Here are some more !!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] xplode:
the sounds of crossbow can be extracted from the videos posted in crossbow review in www.mobile-review.com, but someone good with sound editing should to it. extract the audio from the video files then cut the separate tones clean the vibration sounds, and thats it

Similar thing is for the icons, there are plenty of screenshots from which we can get icons, need just icon editing software
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] kdskamal:
Since we all know that WM5.5 is already out for the universal, we just have to be patient. It wont take much time for the ROM to be leaked by somebody ;)

Till, then, we can play with the wonderful new ROMs already avaliable
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
5.2, not 5.5...

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] kdskamal:
Whatever! The current crossbow ROMs are still in beta and not finalised till now. So, it may turn out be 5.5(or 5.6 blah blah) ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Photon and Crossbow

Nice ringtones. And I am currently using the crossbow theme on my Universal with all the tones.

Photon will come shortly after the Crossbow and there wont be a huge expediated wait on Photon.

Photon will be much faster than Crossbow ofcourse and I am wondering if there will be two versions of photon.

1. A supreme visual quality.

2. A supreme performance where the OS will just look like windows classic.

For supreme visual performance we will run out of RAM for sure.

Currently on WM5 while using the Crossbow theme and sounds / Tomtom 6 / Windows media player / File Transfer simultaneously the RAM drops to about 8-9MB. This is very slow and quite frustrating.

Therefore, I am aiming at providing high quantity of RAM to the universal so that we can multitask in Photon and maybe Crossbow too.

Earlier someone in the other Hardware Upgrading thread was saying that RAM/Processor/Wifi of Universal cannot be upgraded. But i am sure that RAM can be upgraded. I dont know how much does the motherboard support but i will surely know once i have finished my chat with the Hynix manager.

The purpose of the poll would be to find out the number of people that would switch from Crossbow to Photon. Since photon will be coming shortly after Crossbow i feel that people will be tired of all the ROM upgrading that is going on. From the numbers it looks like most of the people will go to photon. If none of the people upgraded the photon then obiously people didn't do their research. But from what i see people have done their research @ xda-developers.com and we will see some good results on photon upgrading in the near future.

Personally, I am very tired of reinstalling all my devices/software again and again. I want to be stable and need a break for a little while. Thats why i am going to stick to Jwrights AKU3.2 ROM because i find it the most stable ROM so far. Haven't tried Helmi's 1.2 AKU 3.3 ROM.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] mamaich:
Soldering the second RAM chip is not enough. Lots of people already did that. You need to solder some resistors, so that new RAM would be accessible. Noone succeeded in doing that.

Shortly?

According to google cached document from MS (I've forgot the link), Crossbow would appear in Q1 2007, while Photon would appear in Q1 2008. One year is not a short period of time.

Changes in Photon are huge, I don't think that currently existing devices would be able to run it perfectly.

I definitely would upgrade my device to Photon-compatibe in Q2 2008 (after MS would release several AKUs). While in 2007 I would live with Universal running Crossbow.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ZYM:
I am waiting for Windows Mobile CE 6.0 / Crossbow ........
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] techtalkonline:
mamaich has a point, the Photon is not expected until Q1/Q2 2008.

And we all know how reliable MS releases it's products actually on time!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Slave1:
I can't remember how to overwrite files in the Windows folder, I've tried searching but can't find this.

Can anyone give me a slap accross the back of the head to help me remember? (Or just the solution for pacifists ;) )
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] gtm55:
Maybe unzipping the new file from the pda directly into windows folder?

I tried this solution once and for me it worked...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
[offtopic]

If they're overwritable files, you can first try just dropping them in with a good filebrowser. If that doesn't work, select the file, rename it eg rename VJDonkeyLubber.exe to VJDonkeyLubber.bak.exe

Then drop in the new VJDonkeyLubber.exe.

V

[/offtopic]
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Slave1:
It's the wavs from earlier in the thread. I can't rename or overwrite them in the normal file explorer (in Activesync).
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] wayne8888:
Where di you find this information?

I want to reflash my Universal to Windows mobile "crossbow".

It is my favorite~~~

Althought I am a junior high~~~
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Here you go:

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] indra9110:
hahaha vijay... ist going to be HOT topic :D:D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] bnycastro:
I'd probably upgrade to a new device. :rolleyes:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Thats correct. Last time i missed the connect sign up for the beta testing of Crossbow. This time i wont miss Photon. Guyz keep an eye on your connect microsofts beta testing sign up. Last time i signed up for Vista and till now i have been using Vista. Think its been over a year now. Same goes for Windows Photon and Crossbow. And windows live messenger for our PPC's. I missed that too. I missed a lot of things. These guys indra, helmi_c, Jwright and ivan probably signed up for it and they have it. The reason why they cant give it out is all of them have a unique cdkey which cannot be shared. Find your cdkey and you will have Crossbow beta today!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Nuclear, you haven't made out your own case really, for why you want crossbow so badly. It won't change anyone's world. It's incremental.

Like I've said, we'll all jump on it when it arrives, and sure we can't contain our soul wrenching excitement, but seriously... it's incremental at best. What do you expect it to do that will solve world hunger? The jump from Wm2003 to Wm5 was much more substantial.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] arc:
nuclear Do Not speak the delirium. ROM Crossbow it is impossible get on signature. ROm can get only MVP (on testing ) and OEM producers. Usually ROM locked on IMEI number.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] imesh:
have I read in the first page that windows 6 it can be purchased, where?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
I think its only the PB for Windows Photon. Platform Builder. But go ahead and check it out. I haven't started on it yet. It might be a beta of the Windows Photon or the Windows Crossbow.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ady:
Guess you never worked on an OS before. The main problem always is the hardware drivers when you port it to any hardware. I would much rather prefer linux otherwise
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Windows Crossbow

Looks like a crossbow ROM is going to be coming soon. From what i see in the other thread. Right now we have AKU 3.5 and WM5.1. I will look for out for crossbow on all p2p places including chinese and japanese. If i find it might be a beta or an RTM. Since it seems the asians are the ones developing them. I am fluent in cantonese, mandarin and kanji so i should be fine looking around for new ROM's. :D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] rikram:
Must Be Available

Dear Friends,

Now Microsoft has released Crossbow beta version. Someone should upload it on the forum so that everybody can get benefit of it.

I request for it.

Rizwan Ikram
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Exciting news on Windows Crossbow / Windows CE 6.0

All the latest news on these two Mobile OS are available here.

A free 180-day trial of the complete Windows Embedded CE 6.0 is available for download here.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] mamaich:
As I've told earlier. CE 6.0 and WM 6.0 are completely different things. The same for CE 5.0 and WM 5.0. They have different kernels, UI, ROM structure, BSPs, etc. There is a comparison on MSDN for those who are interested.

Downloading PB - is just a waste of traffic for people who don't understand basics. But a must-have for ROM modders, programmers, etc.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
Yup thats who i am looking for. ROM modders. So where do you think we can get the Crossbow ROM for Hermes?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] bnycastro:
just got a hermes myself :D if anyone can cook crossbow on to it i think the guys and gals of xda-dev can do it. use the FORCE my friends!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
I just don't get it.. why dont these companies like Orange, i-mate, T-mobile, O2 etc make the latest ROM's for the devices that will make customers happy.. I am sure they make enough cash to make a Crossbow ROM or a Photon ROM. We volunteers over here are making ROM's and the company guys aren't doing anything. The latest i saw from an official ROM was AKU 2.0. There is a Hermes Crossbow ROM out there. I saw some guy have screenshots of a fully working Crossbow ROM on his Hermes while i was rapidly looking around for a Crossbow ROM.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] bnycastro:
simple so that users wanting the new OS will have to buy a new device. they want more money :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nuclear:
You got any luck in finding the Crossbow ROM for your TyTN? There is a crossbow ROM for your TyTN out there. Be sure to look for it. If you find it upload it to the FTP or something and we will make a Crossbow ROM for universal out of it.

Same goes for HP ipaq users. So many people have these devices then howcome we dont have the crossbow ROM's yet.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] vijay555:
Nuclear, old friend, once again you have to understand that it's very difficult, if not impossible to take an OS rom for one device over to another. Although the OS might be compatible, it's the absence of hardware device drivers for your specific phone that will make things difficult. Remember, you're talking about a different CPU, screen, touchscreen, physical hardware, GPIO setup, pretty much everything from a base OS level up that is different.

It would require genius of Mamaich's level to contemplate reassembling disparate drivers into a cross compatible rom. And even then, no guarantees. Hence the need for the mythical BSPs...

V