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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] spartanm99:
I was going to order two Nexus 6 phones until the specs leaked, then I paused on it. Even if I wanted one now, why can I actually buy one? In Australia, in the UK, online? Very hard - almost impossible and if I find one, it will be overpriced and not worth it for the specs.

I've never used a Sony phone but as I hear the OS is very close to stock android + I read that Sony is considering releasing future phones with stock android anyway. If the Xperia Z4 Ultra/Xperia Z3X (basically the same phone right?) release then I might just get one.

As long as it has a 6 inch QHD screen, 3-4Gigs RAM, very thin - under 7-8mm, big battery with quick charging/turbo, Qi wireless charging, dedicated audio chipset, front facing stereo speakers and top tier camera - front and rear with top tier image processing software it will be a killer phone. Oh yeah, and they seriously need to do something with those terrible huge bezels.

I've not owned an Xperia phone but from using the ones in the store (Xperia Z3) the screen was not that bright, the colours looked dull and the camera didn't perform well (front and rear) at all. I'm comparing against a Samsung Galaxy S4 and iPhone 6+ (which both had far better screens and cameras).
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Leechoonhwee:
The Successor is very likely a Z4 Ultra but we won't see it until probably Q3 2015 so a Nexus 6 is a good interim phone to get through the 9 months if you're not using a Z Ultra already.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] spartanm99:
Great info - I've recommended a friend the same thing just today (that's if it is possible to find a Nexus 6 for sale without an inflated price on eBay).
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] MSK1:
Rumours were January?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kanej2006:
Let's just say the Z4 & Z4 Ultra should be announced in January, the actual phones and specifications...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] adeelraj:
6 month device upgrade=ripping us
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kanej2006:
Yes, however, it's not just Sony, they are all doing it. :D

How many versions we have of Samsung Galaxy. :eek:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] blueether:
You do know you don't have to buy a new phone each time one is released don't you?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Leechoonhwee:
Sony have revised their upgrade time frame to one year. They will only release one flagship per year.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] doctahjeph:
If they were smart they would pull a samsung and Release the Z series and Ultra series in the same year but about 6 months apart.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Hilmhaz:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/201...ase-xperia-z-ultras-successor-later-year.html

http://www.ubergizmo.com/2015/04/new-sony-6-inch-phablet-rumored/

Will this be the anticipated successor or another midrange letdown?

Is there anyone else still hoping or is it too late?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] MSK1:
Too late for me. ... hope it's no bigger than 6.1
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] rickgillyon:
The androidheadlines article uses the phrase "quite probably" four times. Nothing to see here...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] tchsvy:
I just hope that they retain the ultra sensitivity of the screen, I just love to use pencil to draw some sketches.. Styli are not as comfortable or realistic as a real pencil :P
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
Is this phone gonna be real or not...time after time it just being forgoten....oh well, i might ass well go for Huawei P8 Max instead....the real phablet contender...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] MSK1:
How big is p8?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
The one in particular Huawei P8 Max is if im not mistaken, 6.9 inch...have 13mp with OIS non-removable battery of gigantic 4+++mah....

The interesting thing is, the size is nearly identical to Z Ultra...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Leechoonhwee:
Not forgetting there's also a Le Max which is slightly smaller at 6.4 but comes with a few more features like fingerprint scanner, etc
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
One thing i don't like about letv is the design...look more a blend of iphone 6 and htc one....huawei p8 max more of a looker...though letv have quite mindblowing spec....but im not so sure about software development though....some Chinese manufacturer kind of forgotten about the software but just give more hardware...and i think it will be hard to find dev who want to own one and make custom rom out of it...but if they do, it will be great...whats the point of all the power but no brain...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] anathema_forever:
Huawei P8 Max would be my dream phone if it had USA LTE bands but without them its a no go for me.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
Don't rule out the Mediapad X2 with 7" display either.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] rickgillyon:
Too wide.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
[IMG="too wide?"]http://fc02.deviantart.net/fs71/f/2011/287/3/2/jd___that__s_what_she_said_by_leeroysmx357-d4ct9db.jpg[/IMG]
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] rickgillyon:
Time for a diet? :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
One's trouser snake can never be told to go on a diet. :laugh:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
Its still Huawei though p8 is their flagships....for me their is nothing special about x2 rather than the screen...it's more to a tablet category for me....but the battery is gigantic...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
Hehe, a huge battery (5000mah) is a HUGE selling point for many. I'd love to see a shootout between the p8max and the X2 :highfive:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
Probably....but people who want a phablet rather than a tablet will consider the size...

I think the p8 have a little more package than the x2...letv is a no for me...

Also take into consideration, will these great Chinese phone gonna have support from xda dev..will it have custom rom for it and most importantly, can it be rooted...i heard huawei have little support and software update is terrible...some will stay away specificly because of this...time will tell...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
The size difference between the p8max and the x2 effectively is about a centimeter in width. Not a huge difference by any means. I think they both look great and will appeal to a similar audience.

Letv is indeed a longshot, not much known about them. I'm not really into rooting and flashing and all that, I just want to run stock and it should be good as is. Or just a run a launcher...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
[MENTION=2052466]Benjiro[/MENTION]

Very detail on X2 there i must say?....it's true that X2 is a bargain compare P8 max...p8 max is indeed pricey....but there is one thing big phablet like this have in common...bad camera....compare to p8 max, i think p8 will be much better compare to x2 and z ultra on this department...doesn't have hard evidence but on paper it's a huge upgrade to me...maybe x2 have a great camera also rather than zu but a boost ois on the p8...i think it will be great...

Few things on p8 max i like compare to x2....

The looks..i really like p8 design, very premium and solid i must say...x2 is more like a tablet design...kinda basic if u ask me...

The camera...don't know the quality until it came out but with a bigger sensors, dual led and ois i think it will be better...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Benjiro:
To me the p8max looks almost identical to the x2 in basic material. There are a few more fancy features like the border area on the p8. And because the p8max is a longer device it looks more slender. The X2 looks indeed more "fat" because of the one cm extra wide.

But then again, if we buy phone's just for aesthetics, i think nobody will have buy the ZU here. Most people considered the ZU a overgrown monster when it was released. And now everybody is jumping on those 5", 5.5"+ phones ( closing the gap a lot ).

What amazed me even, there was a comparison between the p8max and the x2 somewhere. And that 0.2" difference was actually noticeable. I did not expect that.

Well, just about any device there camera is a upgrade from the ZU. *lol* If you live in a very sunny country, the camera is acceptable on the ZU. But try living in Germany with 80% of the time clouds and less favorable weather days. It really loses a lot.

I got a old HTC HD2, that i still use for my car navigation. It got a 5MP autofocus with LED camera. Remember that this is a phone from 2009!!! It takes way better pictures then the ZU's 8MP? So a 6 year old phone is better at taking pictures then a tablephone that came out 4 years after it. Its mostly the missing flash that really hurts it in my eyes. At first i did not mind but the more you use it, the more you run into those grainy pictures. Taking pictures inside a room is just ... horrible.

The 13MP on the X2 / Max will probably be way better then anything the ZU was able to do. Especially under any less great light conditions. I always considered my HD2 a bit strange because it used its flash a lot, in situations where i consider plenty of light. But with the ZU experience it is now clear that those camera's without flash really have a difficult time in low light conditions.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
[MENTION=2052466]Benjiro[/MENTION]

I found the Ultra is rather a beautiful phone if i must say...yes big for some but when i compare to Z1 and Z2...i just find ZU is, how do i say this..unique, in a good way...some people tend to choose a good design phone regardless of specs...i tend for both...

About the camera, i compare just for p8 and x2....well anything is an upgrade from the zu...lol...i never used zu in superauto mode, for low light, i change to manual, night scene mode....in indoors low light conditions, it produces rather well compare to auto mode...but not great...will do before an upgrade....

And for HTC defence, old HTC is one of the finest camera phone i know...i own HTC ONE x and camera is superb...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
I have to say, in the Netherlands we admire the Germans for their 'Deutsche gründlichkeit'. At least that's how we call it. I enjoy reading your thorough thoughts.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] cashif:
Some very relevant points discussed above and it is because of those points, am confused between P8Max & X2. Am waiting for P8Max Launch in India before jumping the gun. Two RELEVANT points for me.

1. Price : I was planning to buy X2 on 15th April when Huawei launched P8Max and I was excited with its launch. But, the pricing has left a lot to be desired as $800 for fairly unknown brand (World's no3, I know) is way too much and we have to pay a premium of $400 for P8Max over X2 with almost the same specs..

2. Looks : As was mentioned above, X2 is a proper Tablet whereas P8Max, with its lean design, looks like a Phone/Phablet and moreover, the difference in size between ZU and P8Max is apparently just 2mm, which makes me to lean towards P8max and also P8max looks beautiful whereas I never ever liked Tablets.

Hopefully, they will launch at a reasonable price in india and am willing to shell upto $200 extra over X2 but beyond that, will look at alternative. LetV Max looks good on paper but dunno how the development in SW side will be as have had experience with Huawei, it was poor but fairly reasonable.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
As for me i think i will wait for p8 max but until a thorough review is coming out...wanna see how it compare against ZU in every department...i have to think about the price though cause it's a bit pricey...wanna wait for it to come down, maybe 2-6 month...enough time for some developer to step in if have some....

Chinese dev have their own website, like ZU we have EXR Team...Don't know about Huawei but they kinda don't do regular update on XDA forum when they have their own....kinda hard to read when in translation...all mess about...just hoping any great dev can follow p8 max development...such a great machine, what a waste to ignore...i don't have the skill and knowledge to create my own, just have to rely on expert...

Hope for the best...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] cashif:
I have been confused but many a times decided to purchase X2 as I have been checking the prices every damn day. The only reason I have not purchased is that it still has not been rooted despite, it being launched almost a month back.

I had Ascend Mate and I am aware of Chinese Development as I used to download from following websites.

www.needrom.com

http://4pda.ru/forum

http://bbs.gfan.com/

As I said before, they do have developers but still not as much as you would expect from a premium device (And P8Max with their price is a Premium device!)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
Couldn't be help i guess...even the phone i great, dev and majority of people still tend to a popular one...about the development, is the chipset they use is one of the reason for unpopularity from the great dev...?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
The power of the GPU in the X2 and the p8max kind of puts me off I have to say. Look at the horrible benchmarks in this test performed by Anandtech. It's quite far behind our ZU's adreno 330.

"It seems the MP4 configuration is too underpowerd to properly run 1080p content at optimal performance, its fillrate scores are quite poor and the GPU is even outperformed by architectures two generations behind."

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8425/huawei-honor-6-review/6
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
Well the benchmark really make me think twice about the performance....i know these will be the issues in Chinese baked internals...non the less, i will wait for real life test against our ZU...i think not much for these p8 max and x2 will compare to...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gideonMorrison:
Well, in all honesty they do score 50k in Antutu and the 628 does seem to handle games very well, even the most demanding 3D games. I will also be looking forward to some real reviews and not these lame hands-on previews.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] frothe3:
I hate non removable batteries as well. My friend yelled at me because I didn't call ? her back, while the phone ? went dead from a full overnight charge . Why should I ALWAYS have to carry a charger with me wherever I go??!!

Otherwise, I DO like the size, cannot live Without a big screen after this .
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] martin132014:
Why don't you get a power bank instead...:)
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
So Miui 6 gets release today

http://en.miui.com/thread-35077-1-1.html

why not be the first to have it and make it on the portal for fastest port of a major UI release

im gathering a team with skills enough to port the miui 6 onto 4.4.4 By Sony!!!

this is the sexiest firmware i have yet to see on android

http://en.miui.com/thread-34895-1-1.html

lets make it happen, React Fast!!

Pm me if interested

lets make it happen
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
for starters, we have a ARMv7 Instruction Set

and a Snapdragon 800 MSM8974 v1 CPU

a list of devices that have the same cpu

http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdamaster&posted=1&cpu=a8974

some info on our display

Display Color Depth:	24 bit/pixel (16777216 scales)

Display Diagonal:	5 " (127 millimetres)

Display Resolution:	1080 x 1920 (2073600 pixels)

Viewable Display Size:	2.45 " x 4.36 " (62.26 x 110.69 millimetres)

Pixel density (dot pitch):	440.6 pixel/inch (0.05765 millimetre/pixel)

Graphical Controller:	Qualcomm Adreno 330

Video out:	1920x1080 (1080p) FHD resolution

USB Series Micro-B (Micro-USB) with MHL connector

thats for the z1s at least
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
I'm in do you have links to builds
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
its gets released later today. i think it was 2 pm biejing time
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
i can't wait to try

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IT'S ALMOST 2PM BEIJING TIME :fingers-crossed: so its really gonna be ported for the Z1S huh?
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
Oka I got ahold of miui v6 and tried to port and it got boot animation and would just loop.
[Xperia Z1 General] electrash:
Which rom did you take as base
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
Z1s stock 4.4.4.

I believe the problem is in the ect
[Xperia Z1 General] zhangyang_haha:
i ported v5 for z1, still waiting for v6 to be stable
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
This why I will share my link I don't what users to have problems if you know what I mean.
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
where did you get miui v6 from, i cant find it tbh? i dont think the download is available yet, and i can make it boot for sure if theres a sony release, but we'll need to fix the issues after that. and if no sony release i available, its gonna be a cross platform of v5 and v6. its gonna work out.
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
Wait wat, how is your z1s on ihackers?:confused:
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
I ported it that how
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
you replaced the kernel with the z1s?
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
Yes correct.
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
Very interesssting, i forgot you could do that :good:
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
I will upload my miui v6 it be visible until tomorrow.
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
Can't wait, good thing I don't have school yet, so I wouldn't be wondering about it in class :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
miui

http://www.mediafire.com/download/78azrp8zd1vx6y1/MIUI_v6-hammerhead-alpha2_davidvaz.zip

Miui v6 this you have to unpack images.

I will have the unpacked miui will available tomorrow.
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
What is this, Nexus 5 miui? lol
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
Yes not one I found before https://mega.co.nz/#!shhhTTST!SReoTzHMBGX8QbhTm5c1Q8mzOS_CT5xfojoDG-Im3_k
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
STOP!!! porting hasn't started yet, we haven't gathered a team of developers. and your miui v6 isnt not a trust able source, only official direct rom thats downloaded on the miui website, im still waiting for people to join the team, me and mchlbenner will handle the z1s, we need a z1 team.

i just got news that the official release is October, so lets start by porting v5, than we can use that running rom as our v6 base!!
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
You need to check the last one out.
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
download this

http://en.miui.com/download-241.html

Sony 4.4.4 for our device

and this

http://winmerge.org/

and google "Winmerge Android Porting xda"
[Xperia Z1 General] electrash:
I would like to help for Z1 but I have basic knowledge of porting rom.

Also my bootloader is locked, so only on stock kernel I can test
[Xperia Z1 General] Tyrany:
can someone please post the extracted .img
[Xperia Z1 General] acervenky:
Seems interesting.

I'm in for this project.

Regards,

acervenky,

XPT
[Xperia Z1 General] [Fenix]:
The interest is good but you still have to wait...

Sources have not been released yet and the offcial download is currently not available

Anyway it's possible to join a contest for beta testers that will close on August 22 at the following address

http://en.miui.com/thread-35216-1-1.html
[Xperia Z1 General] acervenky:
I already have the v6 rom and m working on it.:cowboy:

Not from the above link,I had downloaded it from N5 section.

Can't share it until the sources are released.

Regards,

acervenky,

XPT
[Xperia Z1 General] monivan:
I've got a Z1, could be a beta tester!
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
What we are trying to do at the present time is first port miui non cm base.
[Xperia Z1 General] Tyrany:
[MENTION=1058356]mchlbenner[/MENTION] im trying to port it on another device using vanilla 4.4.4 ROM as base, and im following a miui port guide, but the guide is not updated since the v6 dont have init.d folder and there are some folders undocumented, can you share some intel please?
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
You should beable to port miui fairly easy considering you can use cm base and a unlocked bootloader.

Are bootloader is locked up.

The porting guides are very out dated.

Sorry I don't have n5
[Xperia Z1 General] electrash:
The point is, we don't want cm as base rom, we want stock 4.4.4
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
Point taken it is very hard to get it boot on non-cm.

I have had to ftf flash 12th time today I finally got my recovery and root to carry through.

This what I get it goes to xperia screen and miui bootatimation then after 10 seconds it goes black and reloops again and again!!!!!.

z1s-6916 on rock-hard-rom xda app
[Xperia Z1 General] electrash:
Yes I know, it's hard but possible. We just need to wait for Miui to be released.

Which miui you was trying to flash?
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
Yep, all hope is not lost, if people can port miui to samsung devices with stock samsung firmware, so can we, don't lose faith now people with the brains to port :good:
[Xperia Z1 General] Ahki767:
You probably would have to patch some smali files
[Xperia Z1 General] JustPlayingHard:
I can be beta tester for stock 4.4.4 Locked Boot loader by T-Mobile uk
[Xperia Z1 General] Tyrany:
That is one thing i dont know, isn't miui based on aosp instead of CM? Cm is based on AOSP code too but the big problem is the CAF kernel that usually comes with Cm, For me its the same, port with CM or AOSP as base its just the kernel thingy that makes difference

as someone suggested on other topic using this as a guide could help https://github.com/iBotPeaches/Android-MIUI-Porting/blob/master/d2att/prep_rom
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
What type of patches?

z1s-6916 on rock-hard-rom xda app
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
Ok so this is the game plan

1. Wait for miui to release official miui v6 based on Sony ui, most likely the z1

2. I have made a stock 4.4.4 rom that's flashable via recovery for the z1s, we extract both roms into a folder

, one named "miui", and the other "z1s".

3. We use win merge to compare identical files between stock 4.4.4 and miui v6 for the z1, and all files that are identical will become our base folder.

4. Than we compare all the files that are also in the Sony 4.4.4 rom and move them into a folder where they will be decompiled and further compared for differences and small code changes or added smali files, with in mind that we are working with 2 different devices and some changes need to be made our selves.

4. We download miui v6 released for another device with the same screen as ours, and compare both miui roms, any files identical up to the byte, must be able to run on our device as well, move them over to the base.

After all this is done, we should have a base we out proud of, and are for sure with a little work it would be perfect
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
Plus if miui v6 for the z1 is based on Sony sources, we could just remove the kernel and flash it on the z1s
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
I want to do that with current Z1 roms like iHackers but i dunno how to replace the kernel lol
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:


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I'm very interested in this!http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2653896
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
give it a try. let me know how it goes, it should work 4sure in my opinion, i would have done it myself but dont have time
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
i would phone will not turn on got to let the battery drain down to 4%
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
what! what do u mean
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
btw, im gonna try this

http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z1/development/weekly-miui-honami-4-4-4-locked-unlocked-t2853927
[Xperia Z1 General] LaosPerson:
We have to use our own kernel for this, anyone have the extraction?
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
wont turn on
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
doesnt need kernel, and it boots np, just no sound, no sim registration, no imei, no signal, etc.
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
oka phone taking a charge finally.

how did you install miui ? install steps thanks,

edit build prop may solve sound and radio problems.
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
no imei, build prop aint gonna fix nothing, and i just flashed it normaly and choose all 3 z1 models for locked bootloader

Ok, i got everything working, i replaced the modem and wifi drivers in the "system/etc/" and its working fine now, we should prolly start on this rom now, its only needs a little work now.
[Xperia Z1 General] LifeHacks:
ok, scratch that,

not working

wifi

calling (data works)

sound

proximity sensor

headphones
[Xperia Z1 General] mchlbenner:
miui

what files did you change to get phone data sound working???????:good: