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[AT&T LG G3] Mastershroom:
[MENTION=3143318]d_bd_b[/MENTION]: the sticker is slightly wider than it needs to be. I have the PMA Quick Circle case, and its coil sticker is not as bulky. It should be safe to trim a little excess material off the sides of your sticker to make it fit the indentation in the battery door better; the coils on the stock QC case sticker don't go quite to the edge. And worst case, even if you do cut a little too far, the outer coil is for NFC, not the wireless charging. Of course, you modify it at your own risk, I take no responsibility, blah blah.

Anyway, kinda off topic, but speaking of the Quick Circle case with the PMA built in, I honestly thought the case didn't have a placement magnet at all. When I used my Powermat with the case on, I pretty much had to guess at placement and hope I got the right spot. With [MENTION=5956922]iazybandit[/MENTION]'s sticker, the magnet pulls the phone to the right spot from almost a full inch away in any direction. So, I ended up ordering a few neodymium disk magnets online (PM me if you want the store I got them from, I'm not allowed to post links apparently), and took apart my Quick Circle case's PMA sticker.

Turns out the case sticker does have a magnet, but it's so thin and anemic, it barely had any attraction to the center of the Powermat when I put the magnet itself on the mat, let alone enough force to pull the phone with it. The magnets I ordered ended up being a bit smaller than the ones on iazybandit's stickers, as I just eyeballed it and guessed at the right size without any actual measuring. But I put my new magnet into the QC case and put the sticker back together, and now it draws the phone to the spot just like the regular backplate with the sticker. LG really missed an opportunity to make this case a lot more user-friendly by simply including a decently powerful magnet. And it really wouldn't have hurt their profit; the magnet discs I got cost about 23 to 27 cents each depending on diameter and strength (all were 1/32" thick), and 5 bucks shipping for the whole lot.

tl;dr - the official Quick Circle PMA case has a really weak magnet, the case was much improved when I replaced it with a neodymium disk like the one included with these stickers.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Just ordered my PMA sticker from Ali Express

Hello - All.. First post here. Love XDA :good:

I'm a new LG G3 user and love the phone so far. I haven't had an Android phone since the Sprint Hero! LOL.. Yes, i'ts been that long.. I've been (and still am) an Apple user since. So please excuse any silly questions :fingers-crossed:

Ok, so I rooted my G3 with towelroot, removed all stock crap/bloatware, etc. I've slimmed it down to be lean, mean and zippy! :laugh: I've done tons of reading and research on this and it seems AT&T really screwed us on this wireless charging deal.

I've read all the threads but I have a two very simple questions :o

-Does this PMA sticker at all risk NFC (purchases using Google Wallet) functions at all?

-Anyone concerned over what this aftermarket sticker/chip might do to the phone itself?

-Is this whole process, effort (inconsistency if any) and the results worth it all?

Based on what I've been reading, I've decided on (trying) the following accessories:

-G3 PMA Standard Wireless NFC chip Reciever Sticker for LG G3 Battery Back Cover D852 D850 Only

-Duracell Powermat 24-Hour Power System for iPhone 4/4s - Black

-LG G3 Case, SpigenÂ® Premium Non-Slip Rubbery Surface (SF Coated)

-Diztronic Matte Back Black Flexible TPU Case for LG G3 (All Carriers) - Retail Packaging

-Xcessor Classic Bumper Case For LG G3. Rubber & Plastic. Black / Transparent

Thoughts? Anything else I should look at or do, or not do?
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
- PMA chip has NFC and replaces the NFC sticker that came with the phone. NFC will work as usual.

- I've been using the Qi version and there is no concern. It's the same as if you bought the OEM version. Only difference is that it's not OEM. It works the same.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Hi iazybandit! I thought there was no way to get an AT&T phone to us the Qi version/charging method?

Thanks for responding!
[AT&T LG G3] d_bd_b:
Are you able to measure a couple PMA stickers and see if they are consistent. Mine is 42 mm wide. It seems odd this sticker doesn't fit in the case given I haven't heard anyone else experiencing closing issues.

I'm not sure how i'd cut this thing, it's some sort of ceramic. If I have no other options I may have to attempt to trim the phone case, since it's just plastic.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
I do not have AT&T. I am on Verizon.

I'll measure a couple of them when I get home and have a chance.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Oh ok! Cool! Here we go! I'll post my results soon ?

Thanks!
[AT&T LG G3] Phoneguy589:
Wouldn't it be cheaper and make more sense to make every device the same? I was hoping to have wireless charging but I need a holster so trying to fit a back cover on my AT&T won't allow my holster case to fit. I tried the same thing on my S4 with no luck.
[AT&T LG G3] gashadow:
Several people have reported problems with closing the back cover after installing this chip. Mine closes but with difficulty. I have to carefully go around the whole perimeter of the case and squeeze it together. Mine appears to be about 46 mm wide. Not sure why you're having so much difficulty. For what it's worth, both the wireless charging and the NFC are working perfectly on mine.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Thanks for sharing. Which powermat are you using?
[AT&T LG G3] gashadow:
Mine is a unique situation. Go back in this thread to 11/1/14 and read my lengthy post.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Thanks!
[AT&T LG G3] sullysnet:
What kind of things did you notice using the single Duracell mat? What I have noticed on mine is the way I had mine positioned on the desk wasn't as reliable as the way I had it now. The logo on the mat faces out and the cable is going straight back. Originally I had it sideways. My other issue is, some

times it will connect and make the noise and display wireless charging graphic and a few minutes later it will hear the disconnect sound. Sometimes the

phone will display the graphic, make the connect sound, light will turn red and it will charge. Other times it will make the noise, display the logo but no red light. Some times it will make the noise and charge but not show the graphic or the light. Seems very inconsistent. When connected my phone does charge 100% and in the morning it's still 100% but I wish it was consistent....

thanks
[AT&T LG G3] sullysnet:
Seems my current setup is much better than how I had it positioned before. I still wonder

if the larger model would cause less issues. Last night was the first night that I needed to unplug the base to get the phone to connect. I did notice around the volume rocker on the side where the chip is, the case isn't flush. When I grab the phone to make a call, the case makes a clicking noise because it's not as snug as the other side. Hopefully they can make these chips a little thinner so the case will close correctly. Has anyone else noticed that?

thanks
[AT&T LG G3] red 90:
Wireless Charging Options

So I've bought my G3 for the past few weeks now and been reading up on the wireless charging options on this forum and looking at what is my best solution for myself. I'm up in Canada with the Bell network which is the same phone as the AT&T model. I'm pretty pissed that they changed it to PMA system rather than the Qi charging that everyone else uses... but I digress...

The options that I seem to understand are as follows:

1. Buy a Circle case with the PMA charging sticker on it. This can be had on Ebay for about 30USD give or take. The official one from AT&T is about 60 bucks, but I don't have access to that one as I'm in Canada... our carriers don't have any options to buy official accessories to enable the wireless charging. This options should work, but with the caveat that I'm regulated to using the circle flip case.

2. Buy the PMA sticker and install it on my original back cover. Cost is again about 30 bucks USD. I can use this without the circle case. The caveat here from what I've read is that users are having issues with their charging when they have any kind of case on, short of just a bumper case that leaves the back exposed. I always use a case with my phone, so having a bare phone is not a an options for me. If I go this route, then I would need to remove my case every time I charge it, which negates the benefits of wireless charging. I might as well just plug it in.

I'm a bit on the fence on what to do, but I'm leaning towards just getting the circle case with charging on it. What is everyone else's experience on this?
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
I personally like my phone naked with a skin OK it and glass screen protector .... I installed the PMA coil I bout for 20$ on alliexpress....installed it on my stick back and it works like it should with the Duracell powermat that also comes with a power bank.....the coil I bought has a small circle piece of metal for the magnet to grab it on the charger which is nice ... The only issue I have is it made a little bit of a protrusion by my vol - button.. Which really isn't bad. And kind of helps with finger placement. I think I made a good decision and good luck with yours

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I did not want a case with a cover so #1 was out for me.

I purchased two cases that work for wireless charging. One was a bumper case on eBay for two bucks delivered. (It was the same one that I got on Amazon for 8 bucks. This worked on all three of my chargers. The other was a full back case that worked on two of my chargers.

Bumper case: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00NAYBA66/ref=pe_385040_121528360_TE_dp_1

(Check eBay, they have the same case from china for two bucks delivered.)

Full case: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00KRHZISA/...528360_TE_dp_2

Doesn't this suck?
[AT&T LG G3] red 90:
Thanks, I've never used alliexpress, but it seems like they are on sale now for 15 bucks a piece which will sway my decision just to get it anyways and convert my stock cover to PMA. Everything I do doubles in price as I got my wife a G3 as well... so what I get for myself, I need to get for her LOL.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Lol always seems to work out like that

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
$15? Nice! I paid $20 for mine and it arrived today. I have the duracell mat and next to all of the cases mentioned here. I'll post my results later.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
The powermat is nice actually.. I was surprised ... Good build quality as well

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
They have the back with the PMA sticker already installed now on eBay for 39 bucks

http://www.ebay.com/itm/LG-G3-AT-T-...e_Replacement_Parts_Tools&hash=item4ae01a3983

And ali express for 25 bucks.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...2-with-PMA-Standard-wireless/32224255843.html
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Wow.. Makes me want to not perform this procedure now and just buy one of those backs. Just $5 more! Oh well! Here I go!
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
Im sure it will still have the same issues of the bulging in the center.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
I can't even get mine to work at this point.. Oh boy.. May just have to buy that back with it already installed.. LOL

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So I finally got it to work, but boy this is inconsistent. Wont stay charging. Keeps disconnecting. This is without a back.

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Is the instability due to the positioning of the sticker? Based on what I've been reading, I think the answer is no.. ?
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I don't have that issue with mine. I have a tight closure and no bulge. I wonder why some do and some don't.

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Most people had to re-position a few times to get it right. Mine works very well.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Jhonb, You mean re-position the sticker or the phone on the mat? I can set it down and it charges for about 10-15 seconds and then disconnects. I did get lucky once, It was at 81% and charged all the way to 87%. Super frustrating. :(
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
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[AT&T LG G3] gashadow:
I bought my chip from Ali express and haven't had a problem. It's working perfectly. See my previous post on 11/1/14 for more details.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Thanks gashadow.. I just realized that I purchased the wrong Spigen Ultra Hybrid case. I purchased the 'Ultra Fit' case, which I love, but the back is too thick and wont charge with it on.

Using the Xcessor Classic Bumper Case (no back) - it works, but I don't like the open back - the phone's back is now scrapped up a bit from all of the testing on/off the mat last night - urked at that :(.

So I just purchased the correct case, which I think I will like. It covers the whole phone and has a clear back which should be thin enough for the power mat charger. LG G3 Case, Spigen® [AIR CUSHION] - ULTRA HYBRID Series

I've made some progress on consistency I think and continuing to charge the phone. For some reason, putting a piece of paper between the mat and the phone is what is working. I don't know why this works, but it is. I read this in another thread and so I decided to try it. This is all without a case of any sort on the phone.

I'll keep posting results to help all of us D850 folks, trying to achieve what should have been embedded by design.. Thanks AT&T!
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
Reposition the sticker. On the three PMA mats I have, the magnet grabs the phone and puts it in the right spot. Just an note: My Qui charger did not have a magnet. You had to find the sweet spot to place your phone on your own.

Your charging results are like mine when I have a TPU case on it. Starts and stops a few second in.
[AT&T LG G3] xraytedjim:
This would be awesome! I would be in for two!
[AT&T LG G3] crzygrmn:
Well. As Canadian have use pma stickers.

So demand would be high for Canada.
[AT&T LG G3] corvux360:
Here im Puerto Rico too ours is PMA im in for 2
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Unfortunately, I don't know how much more shipping would be to Canada.
[AT&T LG G3] gashadow:


Whatever method you decide to use, I am in for one of them.
[AT&T LG G3] 3's&7's:
Me too, probably 2 to make sure I installed correctly lol
[AT&T LG G3] phonehead6720:
I'm in for one as well! Can't wait!
[AT&T LG G3] uknowme4me:
I'll take one! I can't stand not having wireless charging.
[AT&T LG G3] d_bd_b:
Just showing some more support from Canada. I own a Powermat so I'm committed to finding a proper PMA solution.

I'll even have it shipped to a US address just to get my hands on a sticker that fits in the stock case.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Those in Canada, can you please give me your postal code or area/province that you're in so I can gauge how much shipping will be. This will also help me factor in shipping costs into the price.
[AT&T LG G3] d_bd_b:
Canadian Postal Code

T2P3S8

Alternate US Zip

98019
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
US shipping would be no problem as it costs me only $2 to ship and it has tracking.

It seems that shipping to Canada is about $3-4 via First Class International. No tracking is available. I'm also not sure if I will have to fill out a customs form. If anyone is willing to do a test order as in send me money like $10 or something, I can do a mock shipping. Once I find out what the shipping requirement is, I can refund the money.
[AT&T LG G3] d_bd_b:
Can I make a $10 donation to you for the test shipment?
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
I will contact you after I ship out the Qi chips to buyers.
[AT&T LG G3] crzygrmn:
According to the page below on the USPS website you do not need a customs form for either First-Class Mail International items or Priority Mail International Flat Rate Envelopes if they weigh less than 16 oz, are no more than 3/4" thick, and contain only documents.

Those stickers are tiny anyways.

Source(s):

https://www.usps.com/ship/customs-forms.htm
[AT&T LG G3] d_bd_b:
I have also found USPS is the best customs/taxes avoidance shipping method from the US to Canada. Let's see what iasybandit comes up with.

And hope a nice solution can be found by the potential manufacture.

Trying not to count these delicious chickens before the hatch...
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Yes, USPS is best for customs and taxes avoidance but my concern is tracking. I'm not protected in the event that say for instance it's lost. Obviously, I'm not a business so I can't be taking loses. At the same time, trying to keep the amount low for buyers.

At most, it should cost no more than $25 including shipping (all depends on how much manufacturer is charging). I was doing some research and it seems PayPal does do first class international shipping and it fills out customs form if needed.

Yes, there is some profit in it for me for my time and effort as well as cost for packaging materials, shipping labels and ink/gas but you'll get the package a lot quicker than ordering directly from them. I get the packages in 3-5 days. It would take 3 weeks from manufacturer.
[AT&T LG G3] Ice-Man1:
I'm in for one
[AT&T LG G3] AppFighter:
I would like one for sure.
[AT&T LG G3] corvux360:
Where i sent the money?
[AT&T LG G3] pyro224:
Does the wireless charging not work if you have a case on the phone?
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Case needs to be thin. Most won't work. Some that work are mentioned throughout this thread.
[AT&T LG G3] pyro224:
That really sucks... Case is a deal breaker for me. Has anyone tried the sticker in the LG oem slim guard case? It replaces the battery door so I'm thinking it should work fine.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Not sure, but I'm having zero success (on for 10-15 secs and then off) with or without any case at this point and I've moved the sticker all around the back. I'm about to buy the back with the sticker already installed and hope it works out better. Of course, your mileage may vary. Some have had 100% success with this sticker.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Did you try a different PMA charging pad? As in the dual PMA charger or a different model? Some had said they had the disconnecting issue and when they tried a different version of the pad, it worked.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
What are some other pads?

Here is what I've purchased: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0082YVBO0/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Thanks for any additional info you can share. I just want this to work.. LOL..
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I have two of the pads you link to above and two others that are both different. The dual one you have worked the best for me. They even worked when I had a thin case on. That one is a Duracell branded power-mat. the other two I have are singles (One grooved to fit a phone specific case and the other one is flat like the duel) Both of them are power-mats, and even have an Identical power supply, but they are not branded Duracell. So unless you have a defective one, it's not the mat.

Do you have the little pad that goes behind the contacts to help push the sticker contacts onto the phone contacts?
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Ok, so I've got a good pad. I'll hold off on buying anything else. It's already been quite an investment to this point :)

As for the little sticky pad, yes I have it and I applied it. Like I said. Some times it works and some times it doesn't The magnet pulls the phone and all, but then it goes right off and stops charging. Some times it will stay charging though for 10-15 seconds and then stop.

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Ok. Some progress.. Jhonb I think you're onto something with the contacts deal! Let me explain.. So I got a little fancy and decided to go bare-bones, literally. I peeled off the sticker from the back door again and applied it directly to the battery and contacts on the phone, making sure they were making a solid connection with the sticker contacts. I used tape to hold it all in place and put it on the power mat and bingo! It works and keeps charging for about 2-3% and then stops.. I put the back on, while the tape still applied and it's charges for the same 2-3%

Frustrating, but still better results.
[AT&T LG G3] omnomnommm:
Nope, I bought it and just got it. Works great. No creaking, no bulging. fits perfectly.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Which one did you buy?
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
No slight bulging by the volume down button? Mine fits well but does have a slight bulge there.
[AT&T LG G3] sic0048:
If your back isn't bulging, then your screen is. :D

These OEM backs were not designed for the extra thickness of the PMA charging coil and magnet. The most obvious place to see the bulge is around the volume button. The case is likely not laying completely flush with the button.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Mine is raised a bit but that's cause on the metal piece for the magnet to grab on my powermat... Which I like a lot .. Been working perfectly since I installed it

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
I cannot get mine to work consistently. I'd just love to understand how it can work for 10-15 seconds and then disconnect. Adding any case it just goes right on and then off.

Obviously is making contact. What does this mean is wrong though? Does anyone have an idea?

Maybe I'm doing it wrong. Can someone who this is working perfectly for, upload a picture of the inside of their back panel with the sticker attached?
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
What charger you using ?

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
The one everyone says works for them the best. The duracell power mat. The one with room to charge 2 phones.

What is odd is it goes on and it starts charging instantly. The charging light comes on nice and strong and solid..

After a few seconds, it begins to flicker but not lose charge and then charging starts going on and off and eventually stops charging.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Dang I don't know man ... That's really odd

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
That's what mine does with a TPU case on it. I take the case off and it is fine. So it leads me to believe that it is a contact issue.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
I can't get it to charge with a case on - it's on/off right away.

With the case off, it's on for 10-15 seconds and then off. The flickering lights is interesting though.

When you say 'contacts issue', do you mean the contacts of the sticker to the phone contacts or something else?
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Try cleaning the contacts on the PMA chip and the phone.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
I'm giving up and just shelling out for the back door at: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...2-with-PMA-Standard-wireless/32224255843.html

Hope this works! lol..
[AT&T LG G3] omnomnommm:
the aliexpress one (preattached to back)

nevermind. does bulge and doesn't seem to charge well....
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Welp I already purchased, hope it works. I'm done after this one though. I've invested more than enough time and money to get something so simple to work. Thanks AT&T.. ?
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Mine charges fine ....I don't see why everyone is having issues besides me ... Weird ...oh well good good luck people

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] gashadow:
Mine works fine also.
[AT&T LG G3] ez4nick:
For those that have purchased this one: http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...2-with-PMA-Standard-wireless/32224255843.html

if you have received it, are the images the seller has on their website accurate? it appears to look like the original nfc sticker that came in. Seems to be almost perfect fit.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Ordered mine yesterday. Due to holidays, might not receive it as quick as the sticker (only) arrived. Guess I'll let you know when I receive it, unless some one beats me to the answer, which I'd also like to know.

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Consider yourselves lucky