yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ITAdmin:
Thanks for the quick reply, but I have to disagree with you.

The very first post is titled "[READ FIRST] The Definitive Guide to Unlocking & Rom Upgrading G3 Wizards". When you read that statement, it tells me that it's ONLY for working on G3 devices and NOT telling you how to determine IF you have a G3 or G4 device. I know this may sound picky, but I read through all 45 pages looking for SOMETHING, ANYTHING to tell me how to determine what I had.

Now the only exception to that is this statement in red, “btw, a G4 PDA will report an IPL and SPL similar to 2.21.0001 and a G3 PDA will report something similar to 2.21 (notice the G3 doesn't have the trailing .0001!)”. It still didn’t tell me how to determine the version, and now I had an additional mystery to solve: What exactly is IPL & SPL and how do I tell which version I have, which would then lead me to the conclusion of whether I have a G3 or G4. I guess 99% of the folks here know exactly what all these terms mean and don’t need explanations, but I am walking slowly here until I get a handle on all this. I have only had this PPC for 8 months so it’s all Greek to me mostly.

I wasn't going to start opening up links and downloading files until I knew if I had the proper ROM version. I have too much to do to waste time looking at superfluous information if it doesn't apply to my task at hand. Sorry, that's just one of my quirks I guess.

Maybe someone needs to make a link to a FAQ at the top of that first post to guide a new reader to information to determine what version they have? Just a thought!

Just so you don’t think I’m a complete dolt, I have been involved in the cellular industry almost since its inception starting with the loss of $7500.00 in a lottery in the early 80’s trying to win one of the cell licenses being issued by the FCC, and over the years since then, I have installed and climbed cell towers up here in the Northeast USA. I have some neat pictures I often look at thinking about how crazy I was doing that!!

So anyway, down to business. I now feel certain I have a G4 because it shows I have an IPL/SPL of 2.25. What exactly IS IPL/SPL anyway? I also show a GSM of 02.25.11 and an OS of 2.25.11.1 if that matters.

I am going to have to re-read everything again because of the details involved in this, but I “believe” I read that if you have a G4, you cannot do these mods otherwise you will brick your phone, but then I believe I read just the opposite? If by chance that someone does brick their phone, and it still happens to be under warranty, can they tell that it was modified and therefore void the warranty?

Sorry for the long post this time. I will try to be more self reliant in the future once I figure out which end is up with all this. I just don't want to hose it the first time around. It's a lot more fun and educational to be able to experiment with different versions over and over again.

Thanks

ITAdmin
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
@IT Admin - reset your device and you'll see the IPL, SPL, OS and Radio versions....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ITAdmin:
Thanks Dr. Puttingham...

Our posts must have been almost simultaneous...

I feel certain I have a G4 because it shows I have an IPL/SPL of 2.25. I also show a GSM of 02.25.11 and an OS of 2.25.11.1 if that matters.

I like your posts because you show you have a 8125 wizard also. Want to tutor me for a bit? I called HTC the other day and the woman I spoke with said she believed they were coming out with WM6 by summer. I don't know whether to believe them or not. My original goal here was to add A2DP to my Wizard. Now I want to experiment also, but I don't want to hose my phone, so I am being extra careful. Kind of like soldering SMD compnents by hand!

Thanks for any help. Once I get the hang of this, I won't need much direction. After I have done it once or twice, I will feel secure in what I'm doing.

Thanks again.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
You have a G3.

Sorry, no time to tutor and plus I handed the Wizard to my wife who is quite happy with it just the way it is.

Good luck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ITAdmin:
Damm glad I asked. I will re-read everything again as I didn't even get to the first step without making a mistake!

Oh well, back to the drawing board..

Thanks again.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Dont worry mate . Many are here to help ... And most will help if you show you are reading .. So how far have you gotten now ??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amsatnetg:
Indeed it was on my end. I had not cleared the temp folder only the ie temp folder. So once that was cleared up I now have button 1.05 Rom loaded. Now here is something that I am not understanding. It would seem so simple to cid unlock the phone, although how do you get the phone to communicate with the computer when the activesync will not connect even as a guest?? I have searched several threads and cannot get a definitive answer to this. I am simply trying to reboot the phone now and cleared the temp again, also ran chkdsk again, rebooted the computer, took the battery out of the phone, and rebooted without the sd card. No luck my wizard actually comes up as a local area connection. I would appreciate any posts on this issue, and meanwhile I will continue to search the threads on this issue. This must have come up for someone else.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
How about turning the phone on in bootloader mode .. then flash it ..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amsatnetg:
Cannot connect with activesync4.5

I guess that i was not clear, I have flashed it with button 1.05 and I currently have a IPL of 1.01, although I have an SPL of 2.25. I cannot get a connection with AS 4.5 to be able to load the enablrapi.cab file and cid unlock the phone. I have now flashed the button 1.05 rom to the phone 4 times. Any ideas as where to go from here???
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jb007jb:
Thank you all

:) To everyone,:)

Thank you all for helping me fix my MDA. now I can enjoy my new wm6, thanks to you guys. (It is very nice)

Any list of bugs for wm6 and how to fix them???

If yes pleas post, if no thanks again for the help.

JB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
OK .. Lets slow down . What do you see totally on your boot up screen . Post your readings here . we will continue from there ill help you walk thru this.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amsatnetg:
Ok Here it is.

IPL 1.01

SPL 2.25

GSM 01.12.10

OS 1.5.4.2
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
OK ...

Lets do this step by step together ...

We are going to unlock it again . By the steps I posted... When you get to the unlocking part using locwiz we going to do the step 13)

13) on option screen click c.

Thats the next step once you completed the unlocking we will proceed.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amsatnetg:
It cannot make a connection to unlock. Is everyone missing the point here!!!???? I have read countless threads and no one seems to get it. F!@#
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
OK ... Can you enter bootloader mode ? We will flash thru that .
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amsatnetg:
Yes I can get to the 3 color bar bootloader screen and I can get a usb connection there.

I currently have Button 1.05 loaded
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Try once there to unlock via lokwiz . To get the files needed to your cell use your memcard to install them . I hope you have a memcard . Next after unlocking run buttons again ... After that from bootloader insatll 2.26 from t-mobile ... Now all problems should be solved . If not im still here to assist .
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amsatnetg:
Allright! I finally got 1.01 on IPL and SPL after unlocking u and c and reloading button rom. YESSS!! Now do I need to go to Tmobile 2.26 or can I go right to SAY WM6 or some other more updated rom???

Hey thanks for stickin it out with me man, I was soooo going to send this PDA sailing in the wind with a real bad ending. I really appreciate all of your help. Your Awesome!!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
You MUST install a 2.x or 3.x IPL/SPL or you'll be sorry.......

Me, I'd install the T-Mobile 2.26. If your device boots and you have the fugly T-Mobile splash screen and all the T-Mobile stuff then you KNOW that you're unlocked. Then I'd upgrade to the 3.08, then to the WM6 of my choice at the moment. Of course that's just me...

Congrats!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Thats a good way to explain it ole great one ...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] djgrafitti:
Okay I tried the steps from the begining but the RUU keeps crashing... My PDA reset's to a colored screen.... And I thought you couldn't Flash until the CID was unlocked????
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] djgrafitti:
by the way I'm running vista
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Well you definitely going to have problems with vista and your cell. Was trying to help a friend use his and was nothing but issues . First if you dont have the 1,000 updates already there for vista you will have issues . 2nd active sync has issues with it as well and to the best of my knowledge bootloader mode doesnt speak to it either .
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] passionettez:
Hey Dr. P....I have read your information here about 3 times and printed it out. From mostly everyone's responses, this works. As for me I think I am abit intimidated and overwhelmed with this procedure. :) I guess I am just going to have to break down and buy a Tmobile Wing verses "cooking or frying" my Tmobile MDA..

thanks for the worthy info!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
You just might be one of the smartest people here :)

The big trick is figuring out if you have a G3 or a G4. G3's are pretty hard to brick, IMO. G4's, you're on your own... sorry but the 60 or so Wizards that I've personally upgraded were all G3's...

Any questions, just ask. and please read more... knowledge is power.

And be aware, I was as you once. I didn't create this procedure but only translated into this document my experiences... I am not a great one but humbly walk in their footsteps, helping out along the way.

Peace, out.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] passionettez:
Thanks. I walked away for a minute and took a couple of breathes and decided to give it a shot. I do have a G3, I figured that out. Well by reading I figured it out. There have been a few folks on here that has PMed me with different places to go for information. I will stick to this one.

Wish me luck... if all else fails my phone got lost or stolen and I will get another phone on my insurance plan. just joking...LOL!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] sbuff:
Big Thanks, Doc...

I've spent the better portion of the last 96 hours in and out of this site looking for information on upgrading my 8125. I've read thisentire thread at least twice and portions of it at least three times. I've been flashing ROMs since last Friday with only one hiccup (my 1st time) which I solved from the bootloader screen and I've never looked back. It had been over a year since I did this with my toy and this thread has been invaluable in making me confident enough to crawl out on the limb again.

Noobs, just follow the steps as outlined in the first post. I and at least one other person apparently flashed a 2.xx radio on top of the Button (1.xx) rom, which didn't brick my 8125, but it did put it into a reboot loop that I stopped by getting to the bootloader screen and redoing Button, then my provider's stock rom and then my choice of XDA roms to test. I always reflashed my provider's stock rom before flashing the next XDA rom. I've been using zoki's NBD 7.4c rom since yesterday morning and it has worked awesomely all of today at work. It's a fast, stable rom with good content and no bad surprises on my toy today.

Thanks Doc and the rest of you for sharing your knowledge and experience. Good stuff, y'all!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] FLSH:
Thanks a lot for this. A nice, clean and usefull guide!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
So what steps have you done so far ? Dr P. is busy more than me so maybe while you here on his thread I can be of some assistance.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
Thank you guys for reading!

Latest poll here is 361 to 14 and I only got asked for help by 2 or 3 of those 14...

Not a bad percentage!

And thanks PURESKILLZZZ for helping out here. I am indeed busy in other areas and am spending more time in the hermes forums... (my wife has my Wizard running Faria's ROM and if it's not broke, don't fix it!)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gertdelpozzo:
Flashing (long) times

Thank you very much for your reply.

I flashed my Wiz six times in a row, starting from bootloader mode: I couldn't get to IPL/SPL 1.01. I am stuck with IPL/SPL 1.01/3.08 (btw regardless to Activesync: in bootloader mode has no chance to show up). Each time, after flashing, I went through the whole setup process and started reflashing all over again with no results. Time consuming and definetely not funny :( .

Any other idea?

Regards
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
A trick that may help its to super unlock the phone each time.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gertdelpozzo:
Super unlocking: the missing piece?

I dont know how to super unlock (I guess you dont mean the lokiwiz thing - CID unlocking. With SPL 3.08 lokiwiz simply does not work). I'll search for this, I will apply and I will report the outcome of my efforts on my wiz.

Thank you.

Regards
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
I do believe I wrote another way to using the dr p's method. Goto my post here and re-read it . all my instructions and which key to press are there. And its in this post we are in right now.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gertdelpozzo:
Stuck inside a mobile....

In one of your previous posts you wrote:

Perhaps I didn't make myself clear. With Button 10.5 loaded:

a) I can load and launch enablerapi.cab. It installs ok.

b) I can launch AS4.5; it stucks on the rotating icon but i can connect to my wiz by using Explorer. So I assume the connection between wiz and pc is somewhat ok.

c) I can run lokiwiz. When I press C to cid unlock everything goes ok until I get the infamous "ERROR: ITWriteDisk - An internal error occurred"

...and that's the point from where the whole thing started, as I tried to explain in my first post (nr. 427 of this thread). Now the wiz works but it is not unlocked and I am still stuck with IPL/SPL 1.01/3.08

Regards
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
@gertdelpozzo

.... where the f#ck did anyone here say to run AS? AS 4.5 will hang because of the 1.x IPL.... and WTF do you need to run it????

And it's been so long reading this thread, plus I'm on holiday (my brithday).. please tell me again why you need to get rid of the 3.08 IPL? Are you returning under warranty or something? Whatever, understand, 1.05 is only to run lokiwiz, is all. Run the whole thing again (and once again I never said to open ActiveSync) and do the C unlock. It should reboot. Go directly to flashing the 2.26 T-Mobile. I've done this so many times isn't funny. Not a big deal.

Cheers.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gertdelpozzo:
.. with the wizard blues again

I understand from the general tone of your replay that you are getting annoyed by my posts. If this is the case (but my post was answering a previous one by PURESKILLZZZ), I am really sorry, I didn't mean to, I can quit instantly the forum.

But if, instead, it was a moment of impatience, let me explain what is the situation I have.

1) AS gets launched by itself, as soon as I connect my device to the pc (is this way by design). And this allows your pc to 'see' your wiz (in bootloader mode the pc does not 'see' the wiz and you cannot run lokiwiz just for this reason - it will hang indefinitely). Do I have to uninstall it? I can try this, but I think that afterwards I would not be able to connect to my phone. I can be wrong but this is what I understood.

2) AS hangs not because of IPL 1.01 but because of the USB connection parameters embedded in Button 1.05. In fact, as I explained in a previous post, I have to change the 'USB to pc' in the "connections" after I flash Wizard_Love ROM (in Button 1.05 is impossible - i.e. noone knows what register key to alter - to do this).

3) In any case I personally hate AS x.x, I find that I should not need a special software that remains in the way just to connect to a USB device.

4) Going back to my situation, I understand that IPL (not SPL) 1.05 is needed only to run lokiwiz and unlocking, thats why I am trying to go back that version of IPL flashing Button 1.05 onto my device. But after I flash Button ROM and connect wiz to the pc (and damned AS starts by itself), I get the horrible "ERROR: ITWriteDisk ecc" as result from lokiwiz. After that, the program ends normally - without having unlocked the phone - and the phone reboots. And I still have IPL 1.05 and SPL 3.08.

I understand I sound stupid but I try to follow your (and PURESKILLZZZ's) criteria as strictly as I can, never losing sight of the goals of each step undertaken.

Anyway, if it's too much from me, just tell and I'll quit.

Regards.

P.S.: best wishes for your birthday; mine is on sunday 15th.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
@gertdelpozzo

Is OK, dont quit the forum. Have you tried rebooting your PC with the PDA discoonnected, put PDA into bootloader and seing if you can flash the T-Mobile 2.26 for ****z and grinz?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Its ok Dr P .. I'm here tonight .. Ill gladly help him get thru this . he is reading so I see no problem in assisting .... Some people just need a little extra touch.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] killacam13:
i unlocked but now my IPL is 1.01 and SPL is 1.01.0000...ok 2 flash back i hope...cuz i already did...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
YEs its time to flash ..... 1000....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Well I was here all night . the time is now 5:22am here in nyc ... Im off to take a power nap ... Guess everybody is ok ... Take care Dr P.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bint1:
cant downgrade either :(

Hi,

i started trying to downgrade too, from 2.21 to 1.05.

but I continiously get a screen that there was some error and that i can go recover. That doesnt work :( I tried it 5 times, even re-installed my computer.

Is there another way of getting my phone working again now? I really dont know how to do it. CID unlocked would even be more cool ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Well its helps to first know what error you got. And then to know exactly which steps have you taken.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bint1:
well,

i got update error 302, that some communication didnt go right.

when i try to use another rom, i get the error "unknown vender ID"

I took the steps as described here on the forum, to use the button rom 1.05
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Ok .. Lets go slow ... whats your present phone rom ? Post all the numbers please. Next step connect with active sync can you do this successfully ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] iodaed:
hi folks,

i have the 98%-stuck issue while flashing the button 1.05 rom to my wizard.

"

NOTE: For people whose downgrade to 1.05 ROM FAILED please read this This may be of help.

1) Downgrade to 2.08 ROM - this ROM is pretty stable and allows you to go back to 1.05 ROM without any failures.

2) Downgrade to 1.05 ROM

3) Perform SIM & CID unlock per Dr P's tech note.

4) Move up to TMobile 2.26 for Strong base

5) Apply any new ROM you want on top of it (Right now he's also on Molski's AKU3.2)

"

i want to try this solution but i cannot find any of the above mentioned roms.

could anyone tell me where i can download these roms ?

searched the dev-server and wiki-sites with no results. maybe i am just too stupid or tired or both :)

yours faithfully

iodaed
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
Okies ... it normally holds for a few minutes at the 98% mark .. So when you reach that mark how long do you wait .... What exactly do you have presently installed . As I have done this with several phones even ones that people thought were bricked.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bint1:
well,

when i turn on my phone, i come into the RGB screen.

it says IPL: 2.21, SPL: 2.21. That's all. so i can't make any connection with activeSync.

when I try to rerun the button rom 1.05 i get an error at 98%: Update Error [302], then it's says something about some communication that didnt work right.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PURESKILLZZZ:
So is it safe to say you are running the 1.05 rom from bootloader mode ? Thats my first question . 2nd if no then how since activesync isnt working ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bint1:
I dont get your question not quite clear, i think.

I will try to make things more clear:

I had a working phone, with IPL and SPL 2.21. I had a working T-mobile dutch t-mobile image on it.

Then i tried to downgrade the IPL and SPL to 1.05 with the button 1.05 ROM, that went wrong, i got an error at 98%. Then i retried to downgrade again, since then i get the ERROR [302]: Update Error.

Since the first error the phone doesnt boot further then the RGB screen with the IPL and SPL information on it. So i don't know if it's safe for me to say if i am running the 1.05 ROM from bootloader mode, maybe you can decide that?!

---- EDIT----

hmm, i think i did do something wrong.

From the 2.21 IPL/SPL (i dont know what rom i had, it was a t-mobile one), i tried to get the 1.05 button rom on my device, but that one didn't work. I should have run the love rom, as mentioned in step 3.4. Should i try to run a t-mobile 2.21 rom, to get it back working then?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] iodaed:
ipl/spl 2.21

currently installed o2 rom 2.26.10.4.

the phone is not bricked. every single failed flash process ended up in bootloader screen.

i wait til the error window pops up (with varying error msgs).

i tried to flash the button rom several times from BL mode and with AS in guest partnership, but everytime i get stuck at 98 % on phone and various error messages on my host pc. i am running a fresh installed and absolutely clean windows. (temp deleted, chkdsk, ......)

tried AS 4.5 and older versions with no effect.

that's why i want to try the step-by-step-downgrade with rom version 2.08, that was earlier discussed in post #70 , but i still cannot find any rom....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bint1:
ok, my phone works again now. Now i am gonna try to CID unlock it again. Now i will use the Love rom first ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bint1:
Hi, back again..

now i am completely stuck.

I gladly could restore my phone with a rom from tmobile. Now i have the following:

IPL: 2.21, SPL: 2.21, gsm: 02.19.11 os: 2.21.2.5

it's up and running. But i am still not able to downgrade the rom to 1.05. everythime i try to run the 1.05 button rom, i get a 302 error in the end and when i reboot, i come in the rgb screen with IPL/SPL 2.21. This way i wont be able to CID unlock the device :( :(. Gladly i am able to restore my phone to the rom from t-mobile. Does anyone what to do now?