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[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I ordered the alie one when they first came out for 10 bucks delivered. But before that came, I got another one from eBay.. They were identical, and the guy that was selling them here said that the guy on eBay got them from the same place as him. So probably for now, only one place is making them and they are all the same.

The original sticker that came with it only had two contacts. The one for wireless charging has 4 like the one in the picture
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
So.. How's it working? ☺
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
Mine works great with out a case or with a bumper case. Most cases with backs are an issue. I am happy with my bumper case so it is golden for me. I have three different style chargers and they all work fine.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
Is gold the only color option for the one from aliexpress?

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
No, they have the other colors - just request it as you're checking out.
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I think droidmyworld meant to say yes. Check out the link. There are 5 colors and one is gold.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Orig...2-with-PMA-Standard-wireless/32224255843.html
[AT&T LG G3] cadizftp:
Radio Shack has these on clearance for 19.99 I got two.
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
I wish I could find the single duracel version somewhere...
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Amazon

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] cadizftp:
books a million carried them at one time not sure if they still do. The ones i got have a battery wireless charging unit with them and a cover for the 4s iphone not sure if it could be robbed an used or not
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
The black 1 device mat has been temporarily out of stock for awhile now: http://www.amazon.com/Duracell-Powermat-Device-compatible--White/dp/B0082YVBWM
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
I just bought the same combo pack from Amazon. Here is what the inside of the iPhone 4s case looks like. It would take some serious work to get the coil out without damage I think.

I am actually using it on my company iPhone 4s so I won't attempt the disassembly. Lol

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] cadizftp:
I noticed you don't have to use the apple cable with that case my wifes updated and all on the usb cable in that case. I thought that was odd.
[AT&T LG G3] undivide:
right now on duracellpowermat dot com they have free powermat with any purchase literally. my thinking is you just get a mat with no cables so I'm going to place an order for the 10 dollar charging cord to a/c wall outlet. thoughts?
[AT&T LG G3] livinlargeinla:
Great deal! Thanks! I don't see why it wouldn't come with an AC adapter. I ordered the USB cable, which is the cheapest thing on there ($4.99). Came out to $10.79 with tax and shipping.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
I have success to report! :good:

I received my AliExpress back door with sticker already installed and it works like a champ! It's the same exact sticker no difference, but I'm guessing it was tested well enough to ensure it works.

I can even charge the phone with my case on.

First test - 50% to 100%

Second test - 80% to 100%

The light goes off after it hits 100%. I don't hear the sound it makes when you remove the phone from the mat when it hits 100% though.. But it does make the sound when I take the phone off the mat at 100%.. So I'm not sure if that means it's still charging or will start charging again if it goes below 100%?

I will try to drain the battery tonight and do a full charge and post my results.

Here is what worked for me in the end:

-Duracell Powermat 24-Hour Power System for iPhone 4/4s - Black

-LG G3 Case, Spigen® [AIR CUSHION] [+Screen Shield] LG G3 Case Bumper ULTRA HYBRID Series [Metal Slate]

-Original wireless charging Housing shell battery cover for LG G3 D850 D852 with PMA Standard wireless charging + NFC(Price was $20, now it's $30)
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
Good things come to those that wait. Glad to hear you are happy.
[AT&T LG G3] partylikeaninjastar:
Does the back from Ali Express have s huge magnet that makes the back almost impossible to close all the way? I bought the sticker from the OP and the back of my girlfriend's phone can't close fully and it bulges out. It also appears to be pushing her screen outward. Will purchase the Ali Express one if it doesn't have this same problem...
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
It's the same sticker or looks like it. Neither is bulging as bad as what you're describing
[AT&T LG G3] partylikeaninjastar:
The magnet in one I got is super bulky. So you got the AliExpress? Thinking of buying it for my it's phone.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Yea, it's the same one. Basically applied to the back door. It is bulky, but not bulging the screen outward like you describe. The more I think about it, I think I may have damaged the sticker with all the removing and reapplying. It did fail to charge overnight, but it's because I kept the cover on the phone. Going to try and charge it at work without the cover and see.
[AT&T LG G3] partylikeaninjastar:
Well the back cover doesn't close all the way with the magnet/sticker in place. I think trying to pay it completely closed over time is what caused it to push my girlfriend's screen outward over time. Its definitely noticeable, though I can't say whether or not it will be a problem since it's her phone and I don't use it. I also think her back plate is cracking a bit for the same reason.

And getting it to charge with a case is basically a no go. Her case is pretty thin, too.
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I have the same one the OP was selling. My case closes completely and there is no bulge either on the back nor the screen. I will say the first time I installed it I could not close the case completely. But once I realigned it to get it to work, I was able to close the case completely. I once again just took it out of the case and examined it from all angles, showed it to a co worker and neither of us could see any signs of a bulge.

The previous poster had the T Mobil and I have the ATT version, maybe that is the difference?

I know it is not my great hand to eye coordination, I am an old fart!

How does the rest of the people that bought these stickers covers fit on, and what version do you have?
[AT&T LG G3] Wickidmasshole:
It's actually not hard to get that open, I did it when I got my charging pad. Take a hair dryer and heat it up for a good 5 minuets mine almost came apart on its own, apparently the plastic is really sh1tty.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
Ok cool. After I posted last I checked out the case again. I see the gap where it appears you can separate it.

Were you able to remove that coil and use it in the G3?

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] ez4nick:
Would you mind posting a photo of what the sticker looks like inside the back cover? Thanks
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Sure. Here its is
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Here is another.
[AT&T LG G3] cadizftp:
I got the same back cover and it also is charging through my otter box symmetry case seems to work great .
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
That's two for two on charging with a case with a back. It looks promising.
[AT&T LG G3] cadizftp:
Well my phone has stopped charging thru the otter box case it connects then disconnects. Thinking it might be that something expanded after or during the first charge. Works fine without the case ,so I am looking for a thinner case.
[AT&T LG G3] bor3d:
OK, I just received my PMA chip today and I can't get it working.

The closest I get is having the Powermat acknowledge the phone and for an instant the charge LED/icon appears and then nothing. Played with the sticker for an hour constantly moving small increments to see if I could get it to work. I purchased the Powermat used as well so I don't know 100% if it's the chip or the mat. Really *ucking frustrating, any advice would be most appreciated.

Oh, I have the G3 Bell version running stock OS FYI.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
I had the same experience with the sticker only and attaching it myself. The only thing that worked best for me was the door, with the sticker already attached to the door from Ali Express. This does not make sense, but the fact that it works means I was doing something wrong ? LOL
[AT&T LG G3] bor3d:
The seller got back to me this evening and says it may be the Powermat. I'm using the older single device model and he is recommending the new dual flat model. Anyone verify this?
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
My dual powermat and the PMA coil I got from alliexpress works just fine .. Even have a skin and a number case and it charges just fine

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] bor3d:
Unfortunately I can't post links but it's the older non-Duracell single PMA that I have. Anyone get that one working?
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Oh you have a different mat than the one I have. The mat you have though has been talked about in this thread and I think it works for a lot of folks. I have the double phone mat, made for the iPhone 4s
[AT&T LG G3] bor3d:
Luckily I was able to get a refund for the old-style Powermat and I purchased a 2 device Duracell Powermat. I'm going to see if in the meantime I can test out the sticker before it arrives. Crazy we have to go through this much trouble to get a feature to work on our phones. ?
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I have four powermats. The first two are the dual flat Duracell branded one, the third is a flat single powermat that came with a iPhone 4 case and the fourth is a indented powermat that was made for a case that came with mat, a iPhone 3g I think. They all work fine for me. I am one of the lucky ones. But none of them work with a case that has a back. The duel one will sporadically work with a case, but it's not dependable. So it's bumper cases for me.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
You bought it from me. So keep me updated.
[AT&T LG G3] ez4nick:
I have received my back with pre installed sticker and I can confirm it works through an Otterbox symmetry case but seems to disconnect after about 2 to 3 min. I also have the sticker and the back with the pre installed sticker still bulges in the center but it is definitely much less than the standard back with the sticker attached. Now I can't imagine in the long run this can be good for the device to have this much extra stress in the device from applying extra force to close the back cover. Is anyone else concerned about this?
[AT&T LG G3] bor3d:
Oh you'll hear from me especially if it doesn't work. :D
[AT&T LG G3] cadizftp:
I have that same case worked great first charge, then it got worse. So now, I have found the case can be separated on the inside (this might destroy the case). I cut away the rubber from inside the case where the coil is , it is still hard to locate but it is charging thru the case now. You can't see anything from the outside of the case hard shell is still intact and rubber part along the edges.
[AT&T LG G3] antiparadigm:
I was noticing the screen bulge today. I looked up this thread again because of it. With my case off, the screen bulge is minimal, but with it on it is very noticeable. Its crazy to think how much pressure has to be going on back there to bow the screen through the battery... I am very worried. Thinking about going sans-case and getting a full body invisible shield...
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
UPDATE: My wife is pregnant with our first child and is due anytime. I will continue to ship out packages the next day. Once the baby arrives, there may be a 1-2 day delay in getting the packages out. All depends on if I come home to get this or get rest. Once the wife and baby is back home, shipping will be back to normal. Thanks for your understanding and cooperation.
[AT&T LG G3] cadizftp:
I am not sure what this article truly say so I will let some of you read it seems g3 has a dual IDT power circuit I think this is what this say I might be reading it wrong so here it is

http://www.bloomberg.com/article/2014-07-28/aPqIj4DXwPXQ.html
[AT&T LG G3] Jhonb:
I don't know what it says either. But I do know that the G3 wirelessly charges a hell of a lot faster than my Nexus 4.
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Mine still working great. Have to take case off which is super annoying and inconvenient but, oh well
[AT&T LG G3] ekma49:
While I appreciate the efforts of the original poster, I have read to many issues with this method to take a chance on it not working.

I do have a question though (that maybe someone else has tried). How about taking a quick circle case (you're basically removing the original back and putting this new one on), that has PMA, and using an Exacto knife to cut off the "flap" and then placing a protective case over this? I understand that there is a slight increase in the size because of the quick circle case, but, a minimal protective case (I.e. Tech 21 Impactology) would stretch over this new back to provide better protection. Anyone try this yet?
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Sounds like far more work and risk than just buying the back door from AliExpress, with the chip already installed. This there is no risk and you've wasted no time, but only invested $20.

That's what I'd do if I were going to try from the beginning. I tried to install the chip myself the first time, ruining the original back door by ripping out the original chip - which did not work for some reason. I'm sure I can find a replacement back door on Ebay or elsewhere though.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
I'm seeing $30 for the case with sticker and $20 for sticker alone on aliexpress.

There's also a couple on Amazon. One for $31, but takes a month to arrive. The other is in the USA for $40 and takes 7-10 days.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
I believe he bought his before the price went up.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
I wondered that after I posted. Crazy how they jacked up the price after selling a few.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] antiparadigm:
Fixed the problem of too much pressure from the magnet. Just marked the magnet location inside and used a unibit to make a hole. Works like a charm
[AT&T LG G3] ElBeaner:
Just bought one for $20,hqve to order new battery door from eBay and then Duran cell powermat charger

Is the consensus that this will not work through a case(I have the spigen slim armor case and it's pretty thin)
[AT&T LG G3] gashadow:
I bought the sticker from AliExpress for $10(before the price increase). See post #342 for my experiences. The back cover does bulge slightly and doesn't seal 100%. It's still working but not as good as it used to.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Hahaha I was going to do the same thing ... I have a skin on my back plate though and tried to drimmel a small bit out but went too deep .. Still didn't go all the way through but didn't do what I wanted ... I bought a new back plate and skin so I'll have a wireless charging setup and one without ... Also I run the Mugen 6200 battery sometimes too so not a huge deal, just feels good to go slim sometime.

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
From what I was told by the manufacturer was that after the initial run, they underestimated the price of production it would cost to make. The PMA was much more technical and complicated than the Qi, hence the price increase.
[AT&T LG G3] sean222:
Ordered my PMA from OP on Dec. 11 and it left the US on Dec. 15. Didn't make it to Toronto for Christmas :( Hopefully it shows up next week! For my dual power mat ready to go!
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Contact your local post office and provide them with tracking number. It should not have taken this long. I'm checking previous orders that shipped to Canada and the longest it's taken to be delivered so far is 8 days. Some were 3-4 days.
[AT&T LG G3] sean222:
Thanks for the reply! You did an amazing job shipping it out quick ;) I'll check with with Canada Post tomorrow.

After it left USA on Dec 15, should've taken 3-4 business days to get to me like you said but I'm chalking it up to the Christmas season...
[AT&T LG G3] changepas_39:
Got mine set up the other day and everything works great. I can confirm that it works with the Hyperion Matte TPU Protective Case.
[AT&T LG G3] Luke_773:
I just did the same, and used a unibit to make a hole in my backcover. Got really lucky, and the hole lined up perfectly with the magnet on the first try.

An additional benefit is that I can now charge wirelessly through my diztronic TPU case. I am using the powermat charger, that has been mentioned many times in this thread.

Oh yeah, just a tip. I lined up where to drill a hole by first applying the sticker, making sure it works, and then pressing down hard where the magnet is.

Then, when the sticker was removed, I was able to clearly see where I should drill. I used a center-punch to make sure the drill bit did not wander.

Hope that helps.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
Any chance you could measure the distance from center of AT&T globe to center of magnet? Would give us a pretty solid placement.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] partylikeaninjastar:
Wish I knew to do something like that before hand.
[AT&T LG G3] bor3d:
Got my new Powermat today and charging works but not through a Otterbox Symmetry case. Really upset that cases weren't mentioned in the eBay listing as possibly interfering with charging as I probably won't have bought the chip. ****ing sucks.
[AT&T LG G3] Luke_773:
Hi, I am pretty sure that the charging stickers will have variations, and the magnet location might be different between yours and mine. So, this measurement might not work for you, and could completely ruin your backplate.

Having said that disclaimer, I measured mine (center to center), and it is 0.945 inches (or 24 mm if you prefer metric)

Thanks, and good luck!
[AT&T LG G3] sean222:
LoL nice disclaimer! Mind providing a disclaimer-free measurement from another point for those without the AT&T globe? I'm gonna try this if it turns out my case is too thick.

Also OP, please check your PM. :)
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
It probably will be too thick ... I ordered a new (LG) branded back plate so I can try on my att one. I actually took a drimmel and tried to take out just a bit but I can tell it needs to go all the way.... Without the hole my PMA coil puts too much pressure on device causing my screen to lift which I don't like at all. Thanks for the measurement

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
Thanks for the info. I agree that the placement would vary for most people due to the fact the stickers are put on by hand. I wasn't thinking that before.

I got my back plate from Amazon the other day with sticker pre-installed and I can't live with how much pressure and bulge there is. I'm going to have to dremel out the hole from the outside and try to avoid going too deep into the coil.

If I had known this option would turn out this way I would have purchased the sticker and back plate separately and drilled a hole first. Man, AT&T got us good on this one.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
I agree with you there.. Good luck

2SHAYNEZ
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
So I'm glad I didn't rely on someone else's measurement for drilling a hole. My pre-installed sticker was actually off-center a bit. Lol

I pulled up the sticker, colored the magnet with a permanent marker, laid it down to mark the hole, then lifted back up and drilled it out.

Edit: For some reason I'm never able to upload pictures through the mobile app so I'll try to upload when I get home later.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] juddrl:
That doesn't look bad at all!
[AT&T LG G3] droidmyworld:
Wow that's some handy work! Looks sharp as well! Nicely done!
[AT&T LG G3] antiparadigm:
Thanks! The good thing I found out is that the magnet is removable, just gently put your nail under it and pry up without bending the chip. You can completely remove it without damaging the chip.
[AT&T LG G3] juddrl:
but if you pry it up, don't you risk it becoming loose and just falling out now that it's exposed and there's nothing securing it?
[AT&T LG G3] Luke_773:
Here is another measurement without the AT&T globe, from bottom of the volume button cutout to the center of the magnet.

It is 36.75 millimeter.

I attached a picture to clarify how it was measured.

Hope that helps :)
[AT&T LG G3] Luke_773:
I have another picture of the modified back cover.

This one shows how flush the magnet is with respect to the back cover.

It is very very slightly recessed (fraction of millimeter), as can be seen from the picture.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
Mine is the same way. Sits just slightly recessed. There is still a slight bulge in the back cover due to the general thickness of the sticker, but drilling the hole for the magnet drastically reduced the bulge. I didn't even want to use it before modifying it. Now it's fine.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
Thank you to all those who have purchased. I am officially SOLD OUT!

It took longer than I expected to sell all 300. Now, I can focus on my little baby girl.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
Well I waited too long. Lol. After I got the battery door with pre-installed sticker I thought "now I'll buy another sticker from iazybandit for my stock battery door". Good to see you got them all sold. Have fun with that baby girl. Congrats.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] ElBeaner:
Got my chip a few days ago. Had to wait until I got my pma charging pads to test.

Took several times to align it but finally got it. Cut out a hole for the magnet so it doesn't push up anymore. Unfortunately I cut out too much. Ordered some 1" stickers for my favorite team to put over the hole.

I can charge with my case on on 1 of my pma pads but one doesn't like it.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Had mine perfect with a dremel and then BOOM knicked it with the dremel ...:( but it isn't that bad. Aldo had a wraptorskinz sticker left over from my xbox one skin..... Fit perfect lol

Illusion bugs WITH logcats post here : http://tinyurl.com/qzwu9f4 Will help dev out a lot ! Dev UNSUBCRIBED Thanks *2SHAYNEZ*
[AT&T LG G3] ElBeaner:
Yeah mine wasn't as nice lol. Sticker will cover up the mistake though.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Yeah I was thinking of throwing a sticker on it but I'm a minimalist so I'm in a crossroads

Illusion bugs WITH logcats post here : http://tinyurl.com/qzwu9f4 Will help dev out a lot ! Dev UNSUBCRIBED Thanks *2SHAYNEZ*
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
I may put a wrap on the battery door like you have there, but without cutting the hole through the wrap. For now I've got my tpu case on during the work week so it doesn't show anyway, buy may wrap it in the future.

Sent from my LG-D850
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Yeah I should done whole first before putting wrap on it ... But I had it on before this li g about doing the PMA coil mod .... Oh well. Stickerboys has nice wraps

Illusion bugs WITH logcats post here : http://tinyurl.com/qzwu9f4 Will help dev out a lot ! Dev UNSUBCRIBED Thanks *2SHAYNEZ*
[AT&T LG G3] ElBeaner:
So, what case will allow this to work?

My Spigen case is hit or miss(mostly miss)
[AT&T LG G3] shaxs:
A couple quick questions.

1) What does the HEAT DISPATCHING STICKER do exactly? I havent installed it yet.

2) Anyone have random rebooting since installing this sticker? Not often, but I noticed it after I installed the sticker.
[AT&T LG G3] ElBeaner:
Figured out how to fix that f up of a cut job I did lol. Stopped on my way home. And got some plastic /metal bondo and filled in and sanded down the area. It scuffed the battery door quite a bit but I have a matter skin coming in to go over it. This way it's all flush.
[AT&T LG G3] iazybandit:
I'm assuming the heat dispatching sticker is to prevent the heat from the battery damaging the sticker? I guess like a heat shield. Plus it also adds an extra security of making sure the chip sticks to the battery door and doesn't move.
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
I plan to do the same thing before I apply a skin. I don't know if I'll use a permanent filler though because there may come a time where I need to take the magnet out.
[AT&T LG G3] ElBeaner:
Why would you need to remove the magnet? I bought a new battery door just for the reason I didn't want to mess with my stock door.
[AT&T LG G3] shayneflashindaily:
Doesn't work without magnet.. Just fyi

Illusion bugs WITH logcats post here : http://tinyurl.com/qzwu9f4 Will help dev out a lot ! Dev UNSUBCRIBED Thanks *2SHAYNEZ*
[AT&T LG G3] AllstarE4:
I probably wouldn't need to. And I guess it wouldn't be much epoxy so it would most likely be easy to separate if needed.