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[Xposed Framework Modules] Mike B.:
At first, I thought that old MinMinGuard module was harmless and pretty useless for open sourced apps but if it causes some people to completely misunderstand and assume that merely including a library automatically implies that the app displays ads or does anything unholy even though no such procedure is ever called, then it's a good thing the module is effectively dead at least on XDA. Why pick on Amplify when so many apps on the Play Store use the very same libraries (unrelated to the display of ads) is unclear. Equally unclear is whether accusing a developer of lying while asking him to create a separate new app is the wisest approach. Something about flies, vinegar and honey comes to mind... ;)
[Xposed Framework Modules] 1ceb0x:
Please come with concrete evidence that the IAP is a security problem, generating more traffic than it should and reduce the battery life in this very module - "COULD" does not cut it.

I am absolutely sure that this is NOT the only app installed on your device, that has In App purchases enabled.

Peace.
[Xposed Framework Modules] CHEF-KOCH:
Hmpf, seems I have to answer on this.

Should I now capture the traffic or what you like to see here, for me it's enouth that there are some background traffic that I don't want. There was also an update for reduce the stats server traffic, nobody knows which data are been collected besides the things you can see. You never learned from all the leaks? Most people that said, it's secure, got an answer very soon with a proof that the private data was stolen, sony network, microsoft, yahoo and such are the biggest examples.

But that's not the point, I asked for alternatives, he said no, I have to agree or compile it myself, end of story. Everyone that can use google can search for the holes.

Besides Amazon, smiley wa app (which have the ability to control the ads within the app itself) firefox, kmail, textsecure ... Yes, that are only my apps which use gms,admob and such. I not play games.
[Xposed Framework Modules] Celestial Fury:
Do what I do and use a firewall. Nothing gets in or out. No need for live traffic captures, deep scrutinies, ad lib worries, or ocd attacks.
[Xposed Framework Modules] CHEF-KOCH:
Yes, and because of firewalls some developer not getting money, really really good option. Why not make it from the beginning good and use free alternatives which not force you to use google things?! That's the main point, but I go now to bed. If you not mention me, I will not answere here anymore.
[Xposed Framework Modules] 1ceb0x:
So you are afraid of ADS in your phone but you won't use a firewall because "some developers won't get any money afterwards?"

This is really....... i can't.......
[Xposed Framework Modules] CHEF-KOCH:
I not care much about ads, visible or not. I do care about my private data that's what you not understand at all. I use a firewall software and nat and block as much as I can except some sites that I like to support. But most people blocking all things with adblock, firewalls or whatever. But I guess it's now all said. My conclusion is he does not want alternatives, which is okay and there should be donations only if I really want it without play store.
[Xposed Framework Modules] SignetSphere:
Then that just proves you're a paranoid. You care about your private data? Why use an android device anyway? You sir have a problem. Why pick on this dev's app when there are TONS of other apps that has more severe implementation of that freaking API you're talking about? If you have a problem with this module THEN STOP USING IT! Plain simple. We don't need to hear your crap about the dev saying that he's not open on using any alternative! Please leave the discussion like you said so. You already made your point no need to make your opinion be blown out of proportion cause seriously it's getting so annoying.
[Xposed Framework Modules] dimm0k:
jeezus, I don't know where this guy comes off dictating something like this, but this ad nonsense is getting pretty tiresome fast... CHEF-KOCH - Added to Ignore List
[Xposed Framework Modules] DB126:
LocationManagerService Wakelock

Apologies if this info belongs elsewhere; I will be happy to move repost as appropriate. In recent testing I have found it counterproductive to tame the LocationManagerService wakelock for two (likely related) reasons:

- WiFi usage (and thus battery consumption) spikes; the radio never seems to fall into a low power mode

- The high number of events generated by this wakelock tends to increase the Amplify battery consumption even with a modest 180 sec delay

Since this wakelock is not a big battery eater I opted to leave it alone. Gets called 500+ times per hour but generates very little battery use.

Droid mini XT1030
[Xposed Framework Modules] cryptyk:
Hi all,

I really appreciate those people in the last few pages trying to defend how android libraries work. I don't really ask youfor stuff, but I'd like to request a personal favor: Please let it go. Just ignore it. Our most valuable asset is our time and energy. Let's spend it in positive ways. Let's help each other make our devices better.

I want to very briefly set the record straight:

1) Amplify doesn't have ads. It never has. I don't know who you are, or where you live. I don't track your location. I don't sell your data, and I don't have any data about you worth selling.

2) Amplify sends a message to Google Analytics once every time you open the UI. It tells me what version of the app you're using, what device version you have, and what country you live in. To give you an idea of what I see, look at the attached images. I use this to know what versions people will be upgrading from, and what languages I should be supporting. These are totally anonymous.

3) Amplify sends your stats once every 24 hours to my own server. It's totally anonymous, as well. You can opt out of this by unchecking the "Global Stats" option in Settings.

4) Amplify will contact the Google Play Store when you launch the UI to see if you own the Pro Features. That's how Google In App Purchases works. If you're offline, it uses a cache to determine your Pro features.

Those are the only things I'm aware of that Amplify does with regards to your information. Hope that helps everyone make an informed decision about whether they should use the app.

I'm serious about the "ad" discussion, though. Please just ignore it going forward. Be the bigger person and let it go. If you want to PM me and tell me how frustrated you are, go ahead. I feel ya. Let's stop polluting the thread, though.

Thanks everyone,

Ryan
[Xposed Framework Modules] grisu59964:
As you leave the text edit field, your corrections are saved automatically and will be visible in the next version.
[Xposed Framework Modules] Cyclu:
[MENTION=4415879]CHEF-KOCH[/MENTION] Next time if you really want to know what library, adds provider etc. uses an application try Addons Detector

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.denper.addonsdetector

See attached screenshots there is no any adds provider for Amplify. MinMinGuard for sure is wrong!
[Xposed Framework Modules] magnamentis:
even though

look, your points and your opinion are free and not so totally off that they would not be worth a discussion. there are 3 problems

which cause this back and forth here to no avail, zero result, just bad energy.

a) it's off topic here ( the subject in general )

b) your wording is and has been a bit hard to digest

c) the tone (attitude) was inacceptably offending

so this topic is very interesting but why don't you open or take part in an existing thread on that topic ?

i mean it's a real pity, and that is my point, if someone makes someones elses live miserable by spreading bad energy and accusations, especially if that person is a top example for good work paired with nice design (rare with programmers haha... ) and totally helpful and friendly and active with his users.

perhaps you could join the thread of FranFran ( more i cannot say to not be cought myself ) there many people have this attitude and are bickering back and forth all the time.

i hope that i got the right tone, a bit constructive but still submitting my point :) good luck
[Xposed Framework Modules] abhi08638:
I have a question regarding overhead.

Is it better to leave a wakelock unbounced if its blocking 100+ events? What I mean is RILJ is blocked 1700 times but the wakelock time blocked is only 17 seconds so is Amplify using more battery to block it than to keep the actual event running?

sent from my amazingly awesome OnePlus One

don't forget to hit thanks!
[Xposed Framework Modules] magnamentis:
a) the best way to find out is to monitor your usage by mA thoroughly under comparable conditions.

b) the more events you can block without loosing functionality the better ( experiencing negative effects

c) 17 seconds is quite long

d) many tasks are performed while alarms and wakelocks are triggered, so it's not accumulative, what i mean is if an alarm triggers a wakelock it may be that plenty of other tasks use the partly awake state to chime in an perform as well, so 10 wakelocks at 10 seconds does not mean 100seconds of partial wakelocks, my well be something between 10-15

i for example limit everything what does not cause trouble which is higher than 100 wakelocks in 24h or 1 minute in 24h except wakelocks which are know to be triggered while the device is in use and thus not in deep sleep. the perfect example is the audiomix wakelock, if yo drive in your car and liesten to the music the number of audiomix wakelocks will most probably soar without that you want to reduce that number :) haha..
[Xposed Framework Modules] abhi08638:
Yeah thanks that's what I figured Lol. Right now I'm using BBS and set it to display the wakelocks time - the time the screen was on. I'm using those stats to unbounce the troublesome wakelocks and alarms

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[Xposed Framework Modules] Mistertac:
Also use Wakelock Detector. It gives you a great picture of what's going on and what apps are causing what. For example, Google Play Services had these two :

And you could possibly use Amplify to cut them back however I know I can fully disable those services and have no issues. In this case I've used MyAndroidTools. I've not yet used Amplify for services, but this is how it looks now :

But you could monitor ICING using Wakelock Detector then Amplify it accordingly for example.
[Xposed Framework Modules] tocixxx:
Hi

I love this mod! It gives me control over all those service.

Can i suggest a enhancment ?

I would love to have the possibility to set those timers for different device states.

For example,

The Interval could be 240 secs, when on battery and on 20 secs when plugged in!

my best
[Xposed Framework Modules] cryptyk:
Thanks! Amplify has Tasker support for you to change settings in different phone states :)
[Xposed Framework Modules] Osama Zabin:
Man, are you looking for refund? I'll be gladly sending you a refund, please, stop it, stop saying paid user again and again.
[Xposed Framework Modules] Solace50:
did it ever occur to you that not everyone has signatures displayed. probably not. and given the remainder of your reply i doubt you interpreted my question correctly. i already switched roms to ge editions so i could care less at this point, maybe not be such an arrogant ass in the future when someone asks you something thanks.
[Xposed Framework Modules] abhi08638:
Lol thanks but I already knew that ;) I've been doing this for quite a while. I've disable around 20 or more services from play services including configFetchService, checkin, eventlog, wearables, games, fitness, and wallet. Ive never used them and never will Lol.

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[Xposed Framework Modules] Mistertac:
Guys this thread has up until today been an awesome thread to follow and be a part of... Let's just remember sometimes it's hard to see where someone is actually coming from via text in a thread.

I don't think anyone in here is truly trying to start trouble but this is how threads can spiral out of control.. And we don't need that [emoji16]

Take it to a PM if there seems to be a misunderstanding that isn't getting resolved here, it just makes it harder for Ryan to keep track of things that's all.

I'm not singling anyone out either, just a PSA of sorts.
[Xposed Framework Modules] abhi08638:
You know you can just disable the analyticsService in Google play services with myandroidtools right?

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[Xposed Framework Modules] cryptyk:
nvm
[Xposed Framework Modules] cryptyk:
You can probably also disable it with Amplify :)
[Xposed Framework Modules] Skhulile:
Best Developer and good people all around

I have been following the thread always, reading through everything. I got to say it is filled with many good people, I can't list them all but you have made the development of this module very good. Ryan is probably the only developer I have seen who offers so much support, He makes it a point that he helps each and everyone, I have never seen anyone being ignored by him. It's only today that everything started to get messy, and really not good around this thread, so my request to everyone is, let's all forget this, move on and continue to show great support to everyone, we can't let one incidence ruin all the success and joy this module brings. I have to say thank you Ryan, please keep it like that, your support that you give which i sometimes feel like the donation we make does not really reflect the support you give. keep doing good, may the good Lord bless you, it's rare to find developers like you:):good:

I say Long live Amplify!!:good:
[Xposed Framework Modules] abhi08638:
But all the ads are too intrusive and wont let you do anything LOLOL [Sarcasm]
[Xposed Framework Modules] whoamigriffiths:
It's gotten pretty hard reading today.

But, I would like to say how refreshing I've found it, to be able to read both sides of the debate, without a mod having to come in and give the place a Spring Clean.

To my mind, that's transparency right there.

I have been able to read both sides and make my own mind up.

So, whilst it's gotten a little hard going to read today, thankyou every one for keeping it civilised enough that it hasn't been wiped from the record.
[Xposed Framework Modules] aeoveu:
Well - for me, the advantage of using this mod to save battery outweighs everything else.

I'm not using it now (cause of Lollipop... I sound like a broken record!) But damn, do I miss this.

I even donated my only dollar (that I earned from the Opinions Survey app) to Ryan (and this was my very first donation. Ever!)

So - at the potential (non-existential) risk of Ryan taking my personal info and showing invisible things in the app...well... His app saves my phone's battery, and nothing interesting is on my phone, so he can take whatever info hr wants from my phone. He can also go ahead and show these ads because I wouldn't mind paying this price to get a better battery life.

But most importantly, so what?! Can't a Dev earn legitimately?

That said, I've been wanting to connect my credit card to my account and donate more to Ryan. Thing is - I need Xposed for this mod to work in the first place, and then be able to donate. But consider this statement of support as a donation.

PS: I was one of the very first users of this mod, so having seen it progress from back in the beta days to where it is now is so heartwarming I don't give a crap about the ads. Its legitimate hard work - he DESERVES to earn revenue. If you're going to block ads for a Dev (regardless of who they are), then you're just being a selfish meanie. Its like not giving people their due share (they're humans, after all).

But - there were never ads. You never saw them. You don't see them. To stick your head in the ground like an ostrich and then accuse others of something that is nom-existential, especially to a Dev who has been helpful from day 1, is just below the belt. So - as Ryan said, let's all drop this and move on. Everyone has made their stance loud and clear.

That said, I'm still waiting for the day when this function could be emulated without using Xposed, so that I could donate. And OT, how can I earn more money/surveys in Google Opinion Rewards? Kinda hungry :p
[Xposed Framework Modules] cryptyk:
Hi all,

I've updated the OP with some information about Privacy and how Amplify uses your data. Thank you to [MENTION=4415879]CHEF-KOCH[/MENTION] for inspiring that. It was never my intent to hide anything, but I now realize there are people who really, really value that transparency and documented privacy information. You can go read the OP for more details :)

I hope this helps you make more informed decisions. I personally feel very proud about the privacy decisions I've made, and feel like it providing the application as open source represents a level of integrity that few apps exhibit.

Thanks,

Ryan
[Xposed Framework Modules] MIKEMON:
I, personally, am very happy and I could not find any data leakage and data

it depends on the user whether the module will use to preserve battery power,

Ryan very much appreciate your work and the responsibility that

Thanks to all who use and contribute
[Xposed Framework Modules] ghagiel:
Those poor people with 480x800 screen resolution... :eek:
[Xposed Framework Modules] Solace50:
for those that are wondering GE 4.4.4 with googy max 1.1.9 seems to have alleiviated the msm_hsic_host kernel wake lock to a much more reasonable amount of about 1% instead of 5% when sleep/idle with data over wifi on.
[Xposed Framework Modules] justmpm:
I know that people are becoming more concerned about privacy and security but there has been some other issues that have poked up that I want to address.

First and most importantly, a lot of threads would have spiraled out of control, but I think that cryptyk and a number of other "regulars" in this thread really helped hold it together. I am sure it wasn't easy on anybody following this thread. Thanks to everybody for this! :D

Please remember that nobody is forcing you to use this or anything else on xda, you chose to install it and to run it and you can choose when to remove it and one of the strengths of an open source project,like this one, is that you can examine a piece of software before you install it on your device. You can also fork it, edit it, and build it yourself and then you know exactly what you are getting. If you don't know how to do it...well you are in the right place, there isn't a better place than xda to learn how to really "own" your device.

You can also ask the developer to implement, improve, or even remove features, but (and this is important) the final say really is the developers. It is his precious time that will be spent on it, so please be a little respectful and accept his decisions about what direction to take the project. By and large the developers of xda are not doing it for the money and making a donation or paying for a "pro" version is a really nice way to thank the developer for the time he has already spent and doesn't entitle you to any more.

I think that cryptyk has been very transparent about the way that Amplify works and how IAPs have been implemented. The debate about the privacy/security issues involved in including google code really belongs elsewhere, as it is a general issue for most Android Apps and is not specific to Amplify. So please lets try to get this thread back to doing what it does best...helping people extend their battery!

Thanks!
[Xposed Framework Modules] grotesque02:
Sorry, If I want uninstall i have to disable the "limited" services, wakelock etc?

Thanks!
[Xposed Framework Modules] kagwind:
I don't think so.

Uninstall and reboot should be fine.
[Xposed Framework Modules] kashppo:
I've just logged in to say that this is an amazing Module! It does improve battery by allowing the phone to deep sleep more often... Man, even if it didn't work at all, the Design and User Interface are so good that I would still keep it!! xD

Kudos to the developer, really nice work, I hope to see more apps designed by you! You're awesome :good:
[Xposed Framework Modules] MIKEMON:
thx

@ cryptyk

some additions and corrections

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[Xposed Framework Modules] trancinguy:
N5444elementalx

After the latest play services update, this Wake Lock skyrocketed: WakefulIntentService[GCoreUlr-LocationReportingService]

Should I increase more than 240 and by how much do you estimate?
[Xposed Framework Modules] Mistertac:
Well what I would do is run it at 240 for a day or two and if you have no issues, increase to maybe 420 or so. Small increments are the best way to go. That one isn't a huge offender on my G3.
[Xposed Framework Modules] magnamentis:
hi

you would have to provide the timeframe in which these numbers occur

if these numbers are around 1 day old nlps are too high, if it's for a week they are probably too low for proper performance of services.

however for now and as a general info, you can raise and lower the seconds for this wakelock as to your liking, i recommend to remain somewhere between 70 and 100 wakelock of this kind within a 24h time span. albeit this is a subjective value it has proven to simplify the search for the right settings without causing issues.

further i recommend, specially in case of doubts, to compare the number and time of acquired and blocked wakelocks and alarms. but get me right, i don't mean the numbers in the general stats but the specific relation between akquired and blocked per wakelock/alarm. if the above mentioned criteria are met and i still have doubts, i try to get something like 1:2 ratio, thus 1 third akquired and 2 thirds blocked. as mentioned these are guidelines or handles to give a structure to your attempts, of course if you are happy with your battery life with 200 WLs/24h or 2:1 ratio there is nothing wrong with that. basically all this still works without limiting wakelocks and if something went havock it was usually one out of many. therefore any kind of dogmatism is inappropriate. as long as your device and apps function as expected, needed or wanted you are free to play with these things.
[Xposed Framework Modules] Tinchoska:
Hi my friends, I am having some drain and realize that Google play services is waking up a lot my phone, how, using this module, can I stop that drain?
[Xposed Framework Modules] shaggyskunk:
Use Appopps - Be careful with what you turn off
[Xposed Framework Modules] DB126:
You will probably need to do some reading and customize settings to your specific situation. There is no magic bullet to getting wonderful battery life or taming Google Play Services with a single click. That said, try installing the free version and see what it does for you. It tames a couple of the worst offenders driving unwanted wakups. If you know nothing of 'root' or 'xposed' then this tool is not for you.
[Xposed Framework Modules] Mistertac:
Grab Wakelock Detector, then see exactly what under Play Services is causing the drain. You could follow [MENTION=2688060]1ceb0x[/MENTION] method in his signature, and with paid version of this app you limit the GPS Wakelocks. And like mentioned you could also use AppOpps to limit things even further.

A combination of all of these things will certainly fix that for you.

Grab Wakelock Detector though for sure, very useful app.
[Xposed Framework Modules] rignfool:
[MENTION=4775688]GermainZ[/MENTION]
[Xposed Framework Modules] GermainZ:
That conversation looks over and settled to me (well, except you quoting it just now). Check back a few posts to see what Woody and justmpm have posted. Thanks. :)
[Xposed Framework Modules] MIKEMON:
I do not know really what anyone has problems

I have no problem

if you have problems, do not use the application.

I personally helps in saving battery superlatively
[Xposed Framework Modules] tmushy:
Does anyone have a suggestion. After installing and upgrading to pro, i can no longer hear phone calls when I dial or answer. I uninstalled the APP and everything worked fine again. I left it at the default settings and did not add any additional blocks.