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[P3300, MDA Compact III General] uniqueboy:
Thanks Varvocel, The thread is not silly now.

I will test your script over the next few days, but I also have not had a corruption for a while now.

I am not very familiar with mortscript, but do you know if it could be used to link the sd sentry notification to running your script automatically? Is That what you mean when you mention that the two apps could be used together?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
Unfortunately you can't start other program automatically using SDSentry (yet). I wrote SDSentry author asking for adding this function and I'm waiting for answer now.

After installing MortScript it should be associated with mscr filename extension so you can run scrip just taping on it (it may be convenient to make shortcut to script in menu "Programs" or on Today).

I thought about using these two programs as - "alarm tool and repairing tool kit" for now.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] thomastakcheung:
I followed the suggestion to put a paper double folded and place on top of micro SD memory. The SD card corruption problems went away and didn't occur for 2 days. It looks like the phone micro memory card holder design had problems and loose physically contact intermittenly and corrupted the file directories.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] kinski:
It's still a software bug, and You can't solve it by putting a double folded paper on top of the card for getting better contact. HTC is working on a solution, as often posted in this thread.

and again:
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] paladin77:
Card-brand related ??

Hmmm...faced the same problem....i have kingston 1gb card (although i seriously doubt that it is not a genuine one, or fake if you want)....

In any case, when i got my k-jam (wizard) all i did was to install some music files (about 200 mb, ogg vorbis files..)....after some time, filenames start getting chooped in the following manner : xxxxxxxx.org for instance would become xxxx~1.ogg

windows media player seems to make things go worse faster....formatted with fat16/fat32 in vain.

I can't help but to notice....All those who posted on this thread have either a kingston, sandisk or transcend card.... Maybe IT IS a software issue but only with certain cards ??

Anyway, i'm exchanging my card for a 2gb one soon, and i specifically told my friend not to get me a sandisk or kingston card (Here in my country they would me most certainly fake, not to mention the issue i'm suspecting)..... Answers anyone ??? Did anyone upgrade to a wm6 rom or a aku 3.3 and see if problem persists ???
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Philip:
Does being connected to PC make a difference?

I have been suffering from the corruption on both a 1Gb and 2Gb card on my O2 Orbit. I am running SD Sentry and get fairly frequent warnings (a few a day) about corruption.

One thing which I have noticed and which has not been mentioned here, is that I have never had a warning when my Artemis is connected (via USB lead) to my laptop.

Is this just coincidence or has anybody else had the same experience?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] greegree:
I have both sandisk and kingstone cards, all of them suffered the pain. After i hardreset the phone and installed only essential software, it works fine till now. i may check whick software trigger the corruption.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] akyriak:
just install all memory-resident programs in internal memory (address book, pims etc )

also use wallpaper and ringtones from internal memory

i've been using files on my storage card only while the device is in normal mode and exit them before it goes in suspend mode ( if you forget to close a program which runs from the storage card you'll get corruption )

no problems when i use it like that

hope that helps
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] paladin77:
kingston and sandisk and data corruption

thx akyriak and greegree for the feedback...

I'm puzzled now since the only thing i store on the card is music files (no software !!) ... In any case, still no1 posted to see if the issue is also present with other card brands as well....i'm reformatting the card and i'm not gonna use windows media player, just mortplayer or pocket player to see what happens...

And i'd still like to know, since no word from HTC is out on this yet (the anticipated rom fix)....several "cooked" roms are avialable (AKU 3.3 ?? crossbow ?) ... did any1 install one of those and see if the issue is still there ?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] midi-muenchen:
XDA orbit memory card issue

Hi folks,

I am facing similar experiences with my 4-weeks-old ORBIT.

Skip the next paragraph if you are familiar with it:

The configuration was still the original stuff, 512MB SanDisk, TT6

and some free downloaded software stored on the card.

TT6 lost its maps 2 times now, got it back with a soft reset.

Yesterday everything on the card was lost, including all software,

music, personal notes, meeting recordings etc.

So I came about this thread, read it from the beginning, found some useful

hints and hundreds of users blaming HTC.

I admit I was about to buy another card including adapter to get my files back

and try one of the fixes and workarounds posted here.

Running an own company doing software and hardware development,

I had lots of experience with Taiwan companies, esp. in the IT field.

Guys, let me give you my only advice: Do not waste your precious time

in trying to fix a problem that should not be yours but rather the manufacturer's.

Do not wait for a fix, you might be waiting forever.

You might be better off spending the hundreds of hours in setting up an own

business instead of trying to solve chinese-made problems. ;)

If you are in the position to return it to a dealer: do not hesitate. Times will come for a

device like this having no storage problems.

I won't reinstall anything, although I love the TT6 and all the other gimmicks the device has builtin.

I will definately give the stuff back to the O2 shop and get me a different brand.

I promise this is the only way HTC will learn.

Reading this thread is more time than I was planning to spend on learning about a new PDA.

To all users: hands off the HTC devices.

It is a f** waste of time.

M.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] kinski:
nobody is perfect..neither HTC nor Microsoft. So I hope for you, that you might not need any MS-products in your company :)

From my point of view, it's more reasonable in Microsoft's WM5

Perhaps the Nokia N95 or 9500 might be the better one for you.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jenom:
Finally

Hi there,

I have finally returned my device and bought an Eten Glofiish m700. This one has build in GPS, WLAN, ... and NO SDCARD CORRUPTION. I even didn't change the card. The same card works without any problems in the new device and I'm happy with it.

The downside is, that I had to bought it on my own. So there was no special price from vodafon. But I'm happy with it and it even has a faster CPU (then the P3450). It is so relieving that I can now rely on the card.

Greetings and good luck to you all

jenom!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] midi-muenchen:
O2 does know !

I was just returning the orbit, had some discussion with the O2 hotline before.

The guy advised me to install the latest TT version and deactivate

the Bluetooth explorer (Settings->Connections-> Bluetooth->FTP->activate BT explorer).

Nice try! ROFL

After explaining that the card data problem cannot be the TT (I didn`t use it before the crash) neither the BT (which was disabled) I insisted having the orbit changed into a new one.

I also gave him the link to this forum (which he didn't know yet, of course :p).

I wonder how many times they will let me renew the device. The lady in the O2 shop is on my side :).

I fear I'll be back soon.

@kinski: of course you're right, nobody is perfect. But loosing data on a normally trusted device like a flash card is a problem with a very different level of severity compared to all these MS-like bugs we all know from office programs and operating systems. Do you really think this is a WM5 bug?

I own older devices running PPC2003 with absolutely no storage card problems. Why should MS have changed the driver software?

Cheers

M.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] markquinton:
I'm going to be returning mine asap, fails to even recognise an SD card is installed no matter what SD card it is. Such a shame as other than this its a brilliant device.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
Data corruption is of course one of the most serious problems I could imagine. I don't know how hard HTC works on this issue, but they are aware of it from December 2006. The only solution HTC gave us is "don't press Power button". Is it enough? Not for me. I paid $700 for my device and I think company making 70% of PDAs on the market should make greater effort, but all I can see is our effort to make Artemis usable device. We search solutions to save our data, we do SD cards tests, one of us wrote SD Sentry, we waste our time to make everyday backups... It's our time and nobody pays us for that.

Now I have to partitions on my card, I make full backup on them and copy backup files to PC every weekend. I install programs mostly in main memory, don't press power button only because HTC didn't tested their devices enough. Even if it's WM5 bug HTC should know about it and refrain from releasing Artemis with this OS till fix. But "time is money"...

I think the only reasonable thing we could do know is waiting for WM6 as patch ;) And if data corruption problem will persist we should return our devices and demand full refund.

Be patient and polite as Mahatma Gandhi :)

Cheers
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] simonbratt99:
not so happy, ... still

What gets me is how were just expected to sit back, and wait, for however long they want us to wait, with no information.

Personally i'd happily accept this bug (which is basically stopped me using my card, if i cant rely on it, so no GPS software is working).....

IF

we were updated on how the bug fix was going.

Why is it soo hard to post a message somewhere, either here, or on the HTC p3300 web page, or on a HTC support page. saying how bug fix is going.

The only reason i can see for not telling us, is that there is nothing going on, they arnt doing anything, and to say nothing is better than to lie.

Without customers they are nothing, try treating us a bit better!!!

6 months down the line and we still have no idea if there will ever be a fix.

The phone isnt 'fit for purpose' it was sold to me as being able to use GPS. To use that i have to install software and maps, this can only go on a flash card. The flash card gets corrupted. This to me means its not fit for purpose.

O2 said they will not refund the phone, as i .. quote " Had two weeks to check it out, when i recieved it" This is unacceptable as two weeks isnt enough , i didnt GET the error in the first two weeks i had it, and the 1st week was spent waiting for the CO Pilot software!!

We want a date when this WILL be fixed by, even if the date changes a little, we want a TARGET DATE!!!! saying "were working on it" doesnt cut it anymore, 6 months later and your still "working on it" is utter rubbish.

Bugs i can work with and sympathise with, and wait for fixes.

Being treated like we dont deserve any information i CANT!!

You have one month from today 2nd MAY 2007 to issue a statement or inform us whats going on HTC or O2
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rickgillyon:
HTC have said what's going on. They will provide a WM6 update by June. Not great and not fast enough, but I think it tells us what we need to know.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] midi-muenchen:
Did I miss something? I definately need to know weather the WM6 update will solve the storage card problems. I cannot remember a statement like this by HTC. If yes, what about the O2 devices?

I will get a new orbit today. Does anyone know of a simple and reproduceable method to corrupt the flash card, best would be without "added" software?

M.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rickgillyon:
HTC have said that this is a WM5 problem, and that they are upgrading a number of devices to WM6 inc. P3300. You'll see the links if you go back in this thread a little way.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] kinski:
@midi

regarding O2.. see here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1234745&postcount=14

Why have you changed the Orbit. It makes no sense, cause the failure still exists. Or is it the only way to get your money back ('Wandlung').

Since I've formatted my SD-Card with FAT32 and installed X-Button, I haven't had any problems, and I still use the power button to switch the device off. Never know if it is due to what I have done, but I hope so!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
Sorry Rickgillyon, but I wrote HTC support few days ago asking if they could confirm that WM6 will resolve SD corruption problem and they just ignored this part of my e-mail. In fact the whole answer sounds like "We don't know exactly, we are waiting for informations from our headquarter". Of course they still (for 6 months now) hope that upgrade will be available in near future.

I think it would be insane if WM6 ROM will still have the same bug, so I wait...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rickgillyon:
I too have had no problems since formatting FAT32/512.

And yes, they may not have confirmed it's fixed in WM6, but did say it was a WM5 problem. Good enough for me. It's clear that talking to support is pointless as they never have up-to-date information anyway...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
Unfortunately I had corruptions with FAT16 and FAT32.

I have no other sources of information about Artemis bugs and upgrades so I ask HTC support. I agree they have poor support quality, but if you don't ask you have no chance for answer. Besides they should feel customers pressure.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rickgillyon:
Allocation unit size? I too had corruptions with FAT16 and FAT32 until I formatted according to the instructions earlier in the thread. Probably coincidental, but who knows?

:) Except we never hear anything useful from them and the pressure is on Euro support, not the devs in Taipei...

In any case, it's now clear we won't see anything until WM6 arrives "from June".
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
I don't remember all combinations, but I'm sure I tried 512 and default (which is? - I don't know now), and FAT16, FAT32.

It's probably coincidence like you said.

It's said but it's true. We hear almost nothing useful, but pressure on EU can cause pressure on developers. Besides we don't have other possibilities to demand out rights - only write them or return devices. Sending e-mail is free of charge then why not to bother HTC from time to time reminding of our problem ;)

Because English is not my native language (it's obvious, I know) - could you tell me what do you mean by "from June"? I though WM6 ROMs will be released from April to June, but maybe I didn't understand HTC intentions?

Cheers
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rickgillyon:
The HTC press release says "The upgrades will be rolled out from June" which means we will see upgrades starting in June, but when the P3300 upgrade arrives is not specified.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
Thanks. I think you are citing official HTC's announcement published in PDF format on their site and I saw this on http://www.engadget.com/2007/04/19/htc-reveals-official-windows-mobile-6-upgrade-plans/

It seems HTC has finally gotten all of its leaves in a pile by releasing the much anticipated Windows Mobile 6 upgrade roadmap; while this news isn't a surprise, it's always reassuring to hear it straight from the manufacturer. Starting in April (the clock is ticking HTC) the updates will begin rolling out on HTC's European site for your downloading pleasure (link below). The list includes the HTC Advantage, HTC TyTn, HTC S620, HTC P3300, and the HTC 4350. All of you folks rolling with carrier-branded handsets will have to wait until June, and to make it a bit more unbearable, no operators or devices are specifically mentioned. HTC's rationale in choosing these handsets over others in their portfolio -- in case you are screaming "why not me?" -- is that devices with a focus on messaging will most benefit from the upgrade. Maybe it's just us, but aren't all of HTC's handsets focused on messaging? We will be bringing you a blow by blow as these things land, so if you see one posted and we haven't mentioned it, drop us a line.

I'm little confused now - there will be upgrades for unbranded HTC devices from April (from May actually ;) and for branded devices (maybe) from June?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rickgillyon:
Who knows. The official PDF says both "from April" and "from June" - depends on your levels of faith I guess, but April has been missed so I'm guessing June... :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
It reminds me waiting for GPS navigation system upgrade in my country. Some years ago we read announcement about "before Christmas upgrade" and one of us asked witch year :)

Maybe law regulations are inadequate: you can sell faulty device, release upgrade after one year and pay no one dollar for this time of having money of your customers.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] rickgillyon:
I can't complain - mine's been working perfectly for months now, it's a great device when you're not affected by this problem...but a free WM6 upgrade will be good too. :)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] varvocel:
I 95% agree (5% for minor problems with sometimes not working repeating reminders, but it's WM bug I think). It's a pity that if you have this problem GPS and camera are useless... Otherwise Artemis form factor and features would be unbeatable, so we must wait for upgrade.

Cheers
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] paladin77:
Now i'm really confused....as i said b4 my corruptions were filenames being turned into something like this : tiesto - eternel flame.ogg into tiest~1.ogg ... trying to play a file like that would result in the song stopping prematurely before reaching its end...

Anyhow after trying all the formatting tricks mentionned here...i set all the files on the card into read only and voila !!!!!!!! 4 days and still no corruption (i used to have them corrupted one hour after formatting and installing them into the card)...........

would wm6 solve the case ??? i have a k-jam (wizard equivalent i guess... 9100 i guess ???) .... would i benefit from this update or is there no update for my device ????
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] jenom:
(Good) News

German tech magazine c't has announced that there will be the windows mobile 6 upgrade for the modells Advantage, TyTN, S620, P4350 and P3300. It should arrive in june. But it is still unknown, whether this update will be available to branded devices.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] paladin77:
What about other models ? what do they expect us to do ? i bought my 9100 used.... and apparently the previous owner suffered from the same problem...i also sent an email for HTC support asking about it...now they don't even bother responding.... anyway... i'm ok for now with my workaround for this problem...i'm setting all my audio files to read-only..... as for files that need to be modified...i dont think anything can be done for that.....
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] midi-muenchen:
Partly right! :rolleyes:

The more people are in the position to return the orbit and get their money back, the more pressure is put on O2 to provide the WM6 update (presumed this includes a bugfix).

The more people argue ("...makes no sense...") against a repair, the less O2 has a reason for acting as we all hope they do.

As long as I encounter this severe storage problem, I will continue to have the PDA changed. This does not mean cost out of scale for O2, so they cannot deny the repair. I could as well claim abatement of the purchase price, but this would mean to accept the failure "as is".

I want a functioning orbit. No more and no less. It's my bloody right, no?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] kinski:
d'accord.

I went the same way with my XDAI several years ago, and bought a xdaII, which I have still in use!

http://bundesrecht.juris.de/bgb/__439.html

http://bundesrecht.juris.de/bgb/__440.html
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] midi-muenchen:
good job kinski, but only applicable to us Germans... :)

My new orbit is doing phantastic as far as card handling is concerned. But the FM Radio is bull****. It turns off whenever a system sound (beep, ring ect) is on and never switches back on. Tuning is also a big mess, you always have to finetune a step up and down again to get the signal. Simply scanning does nothing.

I guess I'll give them another try... My last radio was phantastic (however only mono) compared to that.

Let's see if I ever get a device where all is okay.

Greetings to Neumünster!

Michael
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] nm8:
No matter what I do to my P3300 I dont suffer from the sd card corruption thats been bugging other users. Im just using the 256mb sandisk card that came with it. So maybe its the higher GB cards thats affected. Im planning to get a 2gb in the future when the WM6 update from HTC is out . In the meantime, if there is someone willing to lend their sd card to me so I can check my artemis, you are more than welcome!!!
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] >kq:
I own a xda Orbit featuring a 2gig Sandisk and never experienced card corruption *knocks on wood*
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] nahpets:
SD-Card problem really solved!!!!

Good morning everybody

I'm new in this forum, but I read since a long time all your notices and tried all your suggestions to solve the SD-Card-problem with my Artemis, without any succes.

Now I found in that thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=305531

a solution, which works really !!!

Here the direct link to the patch:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=38395&d=1178290318

It solved all my problems with my SD-Card and my Artemis HTC-P3300. No more crashes!!!

Before I installed this patch I had about 3-8 crashes a day (counted with SD-Sentry) - now it's finished and all my software including phoneAlarm, SK-Tools, Total Commander and TomTom 6 are working well and without any failures - great !!!

After installing the cab-file, you have to do a softreset - and then every thing is working well.

For all the people who has the same problem with SD-Card and Artemis, I only can recommend to do the same thing!

Kind regards, nahpets
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] thomastakcheung:
I found a useful software, mobsync.

http://www.pocketpcfreewares.com/en/index.php?soft=985

This would backup the files on micro-SD card in case you need to restore the files on the micro-SD card.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] GOS63:
Say Goodbye To The Sd Issue Of Artemis Devices

Good day to all of you.

Fortunately the HTC company has announced the solution to this SD problem. Some pages before I had post in this thread a reproduction for this issue. This reproduction was the one we sent to HTC to examine it and finally to solve the issue. Thanks to the cooperation and highly professional efforts of ACE Hellas and the technical support department in Greece (official represantative of HTC in Greece) and my reproduction algorithm, we have now the solution of our favorite mobile device.

You can read the announcement here:

http://www.europe.htc.com/support/faq.html?id=545&device=htcp3300

You can download the patch here:

http://www.europe.htc.com/z/pdf/guides/ArtemisSDEnhancement.CAB

Enjoy!!!

:)
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Sky740:
GOS63 - This is fantastic news! There are going to many people, including myself, most grateful to you + ACE Hellas. Out of interest what was the cause of the problem and how was it eventually solved?

Also, is the patch on the UK site the same as the one posted on the Greece site? Finally, does this negate the need to set the device to auto power off now?

Many thanks.