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[Galaxy Note 3 General] speedyjay:
Why do you want 4GB RAM?? You don't need 4GB RAM, the Note 3 doesn't need 3GB RAM but Samsung added it. Android is more than capable of running smoothly on 2GB RAM! I'd like to see a 2K display, live video broadcast like the Xperia Z1, not too bothered about the camera because I don't print my pictures out so megapixels mean nothing, less bloat, the ability to remove bloat as we wish, a more premium feel....less plastic lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
Because I refuse to pay a full 700 euro for hardware pretty much identical to what the Note 3 already has. The 805 is not spectacular, and as much as 2K is lovely, it's still not worth the additional 400 quid over a new Note 3. Samsung isn't Apple.

No, Megapixels means nothing. The sensor quality, on the other hand, could use a siginificant improvement! ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dogan2010:
No Knox

If it will be the same as note 3

It will be my last samsung

After thr s1 2 3 4

Note 1 2 and 3

Im sick and tired of samsung

Its gonna be a htc or sony or even a nexus
[Galaxy Note 3 General] onslaught86:
But of course! I use one - I have no choice, after all. :)

It would be nice to have that choice. The Touchwiz launcher does everything right for my needs except grid size and a dynamic calendar icon. There's a couple of very good third party launchers that riff on Touchwiz, but the real thing has certain advantages - I loved Page Buddy on my Note II, and that's something no third party launcher has replicated yet. The mods of the stock launcher to increase the grid size tend to break all of the Samsung widgets.

That, and it's just bad form. Most casual users are going to keep the stock setup, and 4x4 icon grids are so...2007.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
Hope they improve the audio on the Note 4.

Hope they beef up the speaker, and even use the same one as is used on the Note 2, speaker on the back again would please me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
They killed Page Buddy entirely in 4.2.2... (and since Note 3 came with 4.3...)

The Note 3 never had the app, just the (annoying) suggestions bar that pops up under notifications when you plug in your headphones.

Hm, the only widget I've noticed a lack of functionality on is the Calendar one, but I prefer Today instead (I hate big white blocks, I prefer a sleek black 40% opacity look). Which others do not work?

Now on that last part, I fully agree. Fixed grids are more Apple's terrain than anything that uses Android. Imagine how that looks on the 12.2" NotePro.... >.<

I'd rather they didn't. With the speaker on the bottom, I can use the screen whilst playing music as it lies on the table. Doesn't works quite so well when the speaker is lying on the table... Muffles it an awful lot. Back-set speakers are useless.

For instance. Laying it on the pillow whilst watching a film in bed. Can't hear a bloody thing with the speaker projecting the sounds into the pillow.....

In fact, I think we'd all rather have it on the front...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lilstevie:
You have slim to no chance of that happening, knox is for enterprise BYOD policies. Expecting it to disappear is going to be futile

Thats nice, but lets see how you feel with the other devices ;)

You mean HTC and Sony with their irreversible unlocks? HTC with S-ON that restricts what partitions you can flash. Sony which in their unlock process irreversibly erase DRM device keys? AFAIK the Nexus is the only one of those 3 devices that has easy unlock/relock.

And this is just to be extra clear. Samsung Knox does not restrict you from doing anything to your device. All it does is flip a flag and remove knox secure containers which you have probably never even used and prevent you from having knox secure containers on a device that has been hacked up. If you actually have a need for knox containers you would not be modifying your device. As for the warranty implications try making a warranty claim with a htc-devunlocked/soff device or an unlocked sony device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] onslaught86:
Thankfully, the devices that had it got to keep it. Frustrates me that, of all the features Samsung has in their very robust software suite, they canned the one I liked the most, which has no third-party replacement.

The special thing about Page Buddy was that it was context sensitive and users defined, so I could have all of my stylus-related apps immediately available when I needed them, and hidden when I didn't - the same goes for music widgets. This is, I feel, a concept with enormous potential that has yet to be properly realised. Thanks to its removal, I use the S Pen less on the Note 3 than I did on the Note II.

The Page Buddy notification service is useless precisely because it isn't user-defined, and the system is not quite clever enough to only suggest apps that make use of a connected headset or the S Pen. I suspect they removed Page Buddy because it was confusing for many end users. Air Command is at least somewhat useful, being contextual, but without being able to set my own shortcuts, much less so than Page Buddy was. I'd much rather have shortcuts to my own apps than Sfinder and Pen Window (Pen Window had so much potential, it's just terribly thought out).

I have some hope for the return of similar features to Page Buddy. The Toolbox feature in the S5 is customisable, and I expect it to be in the Note 4.

As for the widgets, the stock weather widget and a number of Splanner widgets aren't available on third party launchers (although I'm fundamentally opposed to having two clocks on one screen anyway). Many of the other widgets, such as Assistive Light, suffer from formatting issues outside of the Touchwiz launcher, and end up distorted or with broken text. Nova's option to disable widget padding helps with this, however.

Aesthetically, I really enjoy the stock Touchwiz launcher, particularly the way it handles text and shadows. It's only the icons and colours that are somewhat offputting now (Notably the static date on the Spanner icon), Touchwiz has come a long way. There's also the general failure to take advantage of screen real estate, but that's not a Samsung-specific issue -and automatically opening apps in multiwindow view helps a lot.

If you've ever taken a look at some of Pantech's high end Korea-only devices, their approach to UI & UX is superb - there's an option to switch between 4x4 & 5x5 grids. Give me that & I'll be a lot happier. There's an Easy Mode, why not a Pro Mode?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BLEK0TA:
I want only metal body and waterproof. That will be gr8
[Galaxy Note 3 General] speedyjay:
I'm well aware Samsung isn't apple. If you don't want to pay £700....get it on contract, and if you aren't old enough to get it in contract then get your mum or dad to get it for you because no matter what, it is pretty safe to say that regardless of the specs of the Note 4, you're gonna be looking at paying around £6-700 and to provide an alternative option for you, if you don't want to be paying £6-700 then I suggest you get the LG G3 or the HTC One M8 or try your luck and see if you can find the Oppo find 7.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
Oh, and whilst we're at it, would prefer it if they fixed the location reporting, too. Mine for the last two months thinks I'm in the arse end of Serbia. :eek: It's bloody creepy.

I'm principally opposed to buying a phone on a contract. Too often I have to deal with customers who bought their device on a contract, have to pay 60 quid a month, and have become unemployed as a result to the economic crisis. Now they want out, after two months. For free and be allowed to keep their phone, to boot. Morons. Think ahead for once in your life. (Them, not you.)

Not to mention devices bought through a provider, or at all, in the Netherlands is about 200 euro more expensive than buying it open market in Germany. Anyone buying it in the Netherlands is an idiot.

I can't exactly swap to another brand. Samsung and T-Mobile would not be very happy with me if I did.....

The price in itself is not the issue. I bought a 900 quid NotePro. I own a Note 3, S5, S4, two S3's and a Note 2. Still not the issue. The value for money in relation to the previous device is the issue. Minor, mostly cosmetic, updates to a device and then asking the full price, that's Apple's style.

I still think 5x5 is also too small on 5.7".. I'm using 8x6... ;)

I do agree there should be a pro mode. Just let us set the grid size ourself, it's not too difficult to program.

Thankfully, there's an alternative app for most things. I've taken to using eWeatherHD, Flashlight+ (The older version of the app still lets you use a widget to toggle the light without launching the app. Look for 1.56), Today calendar widget and ofcourse the irreplacable Zooper Widget for pretty much everything :)

I don't get how they managed to mess up Pen Window so badly. It's a direct rip-off of from the Wacom Wheel on an Intuos. Except that one has a modifiable full wheel that can be modified to do everything from shortcuts to button combos to actions. And it had several layers, so you could set one slice to open a launch menu with 8 apps. And another slice to actions. Another to share options, etc. They should have used that, it had year and years of research into it.

The Page Buddy on the Note 3 is hilarious. It keeps suggesting my SMS app as the first app to use, even though N7player is running 100% of the time I have my headphones plugged in. It only detects times opened, not amount of time used.

Though frankly Touchwiz being more like Vanilla Android would be perfectly fine, too. Just as long as they don't force MagUX on us... Oh sure, it's lovely if you have a US device. 90% of the apps for it aren't available for non-US users, though. So you have 8 blocks that simply remain empty because only about 3 apps work. Yay...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] SithDagger:
I can replicate these features with gmd spend control (use the launchpads and setup your own apps to use, voila custom page buddy for spen) and tasker (use tasker to detect headphones plugged in and run gmd spen launchpad on detect, simple), it would be nice if these options where built into a 3rd party launcher or touchwiz, in the meantime it does work.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sonyfan12:
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[Galaxy Note 3 General] amosolidu:
Knox and knox free versions of note 4 !!! ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bogdan1980:
I want No Knox, unlock bootloader, easy root by default, no triangle, custom status, etc, i want freedom.

If not it will be my last samsung phones. Only reason why i bought 2 note3 was because i know i could root it with knox 0. but i cant put custom kernels. So i think that next time will be an nexus.

Also sammy has crappy quality, power, volume, home buttons get bad in time. You need back to kill and gravity box to unlock screen without buttons

And finally NO 2k resolution, we need way to powerfull gpu, cpu gor that. Crap, even my S2 has double frames in games then note3, don't belive me? Try it yourself with FPS Meter. I want 720p device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sonyfan12:
awesome

http://www.gsmarena.com/detailed_images_of_galaxy_note_4_leak-news-9298.php
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kibasscies:
1) Battery with higher capacity (4000mA is reasonable?)

2) Remove Knox completely and any bloatware not installed by the user explicitly

3) TouchWiz far lighter and with gestures included finally!!!

4) Screen off/on by double tap on the screen (LG-like)

5) Fingerprint sensor

6) FM radio restored

7) Waterproof

8) Metal frame easily and individually removable, in case of replacement due to damage, without substituting the entire front-case (which also includes the touch screen, as it happens for all Samsung devices with chrome frame !!!)

What about those?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Someguyfromhell:
A little correction - It is possible to restore DRM keys, if you back them up before unlocking the bootloader. Only applies to 2012 and newer Sony phones though.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
You're not serious I hope. 720p on 5.7", don't be ridiculous. Are you trying to give everyone a migraine?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bogdan1980:
Well, i have 1080 on tv, pc lcd. 720p is perfect for small screens, even for 8'' screen. You cant tell me that you see pixels on note2, 720p. And its better for performance.

Some people wants higher resolution because don't have an clue about it, about huge performer dropped, about lag(see g3). You cant see difference between 720/1080 on these tiny screens. Common, we have 1080 on 24'' pc screens.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
One thing the Note 4 has to worry about this year if it happens is Apple's 5.5" Phablet, idiots will buy this regardless of features and price.

Samsung really now have to step up to the mark with the Note 4, otherwise it gonna see sale dip on this aswell.

Number one thing to do is not use touchwiz from the S5, I really hate this new touchwiz and it colours they gone for, i actually prefer the older touchwiz for looks.

Camera they need OIS, and ditch the Samsung Sensor why because while picture quality is good overall on good sunny days over saturation can spoil some pictures, plus like in the past soon as the light condition change, it hard to get a decent blur free shot.

Video aswell is not as good on the Samsung sensor compared to the Sony sensor, 4K is better on the Note 3 than it is on the S5.

Samsung need to use the latest Sony sensor rather than it's own sensor in the Note 4.

I fear the Note 4 is just going to be a bigger version of the S5 LTE-A, with added features for the S pen.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bogdan1980:
What samsung sensor? I'm sure it's an Sony? Right?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] senectus:
I'm calling bull**** on at least the box in that article.

The picture on that box is NOTHING like the photo's of the supposed device.. the physical button is completely different.

If those are pics of the device itself I'm disappointed it doesn't appear to be IP67, and if its not IP67 is should AT LEAST have stereo speakers...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] thekoRngear:
I liked those.

Though 4000 mAh for sure wont appear(1) with little chances of restoring the FM Radio (6)

(2) not possible, my position regarding this doesnt matter

(3) perfectly said:good:

(4) I would really like to see the screen off/on feature like the G3

(5) and (7) will obviously and hopefully be there

(8) sounds so cool but um afraid it wont make into note 4. You know what u should email these stuffs to them. LG brought huge customization options without having to root the phone and proved these are innocent people's innocent demands for which a root is not necessary. Sadly sammy is not caring about.

I wish instead of giant bit rates like 48 Mb/s sammy could have unleashed S5 and/or Note 4 with just 6/7 Mbps bit rates. There are videos of Hunger Games movie Mokingjay part 1 which were uploaded with exact same 4k resolution that samsung uses with overall bit rate of just 6-7 Mbps. That video looks superb and takes much less space (around 58MB) on my Note 3.

I beg to differ. I used a Note 3 for around 6 months and if, the note 4 appears to be just like that as u have mentioned then it wont Just be a bigger brother of S5 LTE-A. With (at least few to hope) innovation in terms of utilizing the S-Pen this will single handedly separate the note 4/note series from others.

And now for someone who claims along with many a people that a 720p is enough for the sake of performance and asked us to come on as we have 1080p monitors- that is your opinion and no matter how valid or practical your opinion seems this industry will continue to innovate everything in their larger and bigger magnitude. We are now also having a growing number of UHD screen monitors. Hence your opinion to keep the screens at 720p wont stop them to unleash higher resolution screens. I am not asking you to keep shut and watch how this industry goes in that direction. I just personally hope with the trend of great resolutions, should come highly optimized socs along with revolutionary battery juices.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
Samsung is going down. ...I'll be trying out the apple if they give us the bigger screen. .... or going over to a windows phone. Had enough of crapsung
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
Yes, I most certainly can see the difference. Perhaps you can't, but many of us can. 720p is more blurry, less crisp and for anyone with migraines, very noticable. If I use a 720p screen for 10 minutes, I have to put it away because someone's sticking needles in my head. The problem is significantly less with 1080 on the same size.

But then, I'm a designer and a photographer. Recognizing sharpness in an image is sort of my dayjob. It's the same as how people can't see if an image is photoshopped, untill they know what to look for. Then you can't not see it.

I happen to own a Note 2. And yes, I can clearly see the difference in sharpness compared to the 1080p on the Note 3.

I would never pay more than 5 quid for 720p in this year, let alone for 720p on 8".

I own a TabPro 8.4, believe me, the difference between 720p on 8" and 2K on 8.4" is VERY clear.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Jiyeon90:
I might be getting the note 4, can anyone tell me, how is the sound quality through headphones on the latest Samsung devices? I'll be happy if it's at least as good as my ipod touch 4

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jayr04:
1. No lag in Touchwiz

2. Loud/rich sounding speakers.

3. Majority metal body.

4. Ability to take low-light photos without a lot of noise.

5. 6+ hours SOT.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
Unlikely to get any of those. ....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bogdan1980:
Speaker is awfull on note3, i have distortions even at 70% on some videos, music. And its way to low even at 100%. Hope an better speaker quality. Even old s1,s2 had better speaker.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
Depends on the headphones. I'm using serious AKG ones and the quality is excellent. Ditto on my external speakerset.

The internal speaker, however, is the modern equivalent of a tin can.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
BOOTLOADER/MODEM Package

Already included in the rom folder

Install Instructions:

" Source/credits: [MENTION=693309]edgarf28[/MENTION] "

For the latest version, would suggest you flash rom first(if you are already on Lollipop) via recovery. Flash Bootloader and Modem via odin after flashing the rom.

This procedure can be done anytime and it won't wipe anything from your device! Your current ROM, Kernel & Recovery will remain the same after you flash this.

Do exactly as mentioned:

- Make sure you have downloaded the correct packages

- Switch off your phone completely (This is IMPORTANT)

- Wait for 30 seconds

- Start your Phone in download mode: Press Vol down + Home + Power buttons till the screen turns on, press Vol Up to continue (Only enter download mode on this way, otherwise it won't work!!)

- Connect your phone to your computer

- Open Odin 3.09 on your PC (Older versions won't work correctly!)

- Click on the 'BL' button, and load in your BOOTLOADER tar.md5 file

- Click on the 'CP' button, and load in your MODEM tar.md5 file

- DON'T TOUCH ANYTHING ELSE (you can brick your phone if you choose other settings in Odin)

- Click on the Start button

- Wait till it finish flashing.

- Your phone reboots automatically after flashing.

- Always check after flashing: Settings -> About device -> Baseband; that should show you the same modem build number noted as here.

And also check if the bootloader got flashed correctly by downloading an AndroidTerminal app, and enter this command: getprop ro.boot.bootloader

NOTE: Sometimes the modem/baseband needs to be flashed 2 or even 3 times till it will get flashed correctly.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
One more
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] hrithikgupt:
Finally A Rom For G900H
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] mahir1010:
Finally!!

please tell me selinux is permissive in this rom...or just tell me how to change selinux mod
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
Selinux is not set to Permissive. You could try to change it with selinuxmodechanger_v1.2.apk from xda forum
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] sharingan:
first of all a big thanks to you for releasing outa new rom exclusively for octa core variant :good::good::good:

and second what can i do after changing selinux status will it give a performance boost or something ??

and third just asking as you have stated that it is deodexed then why is it 983 mb in size and not small like sterolite rom which is lik e450 mb in size

no offence just asking and i am not making any comparison
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] mahir1010:
i know about that app i already tried it as it says in the description the app doesn't work with Samsung devices even if knox is removed but thats alright i cant complaint about it at least we have a rom now

---------- Post added at 07:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:37 PM ----------

no it just helps running some root apps which doesn't work with selinux enforcing i don't know much about it
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] sharingan:
thanks bro i get it now
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
I have not faced any root issue on the Selinux enforced mode. Device with knox security do face problem changing to Permissive. Am not qualified to try it too.

I was also using the rom you mentioned and he has done a wonderful job. Edgar's rom is bare bones with add on package. I feel the basic features that Samsung has given should be there and hence have removed only the absolute unnecessary files. Try it and let me know your views. No offence taken at all[emoji6]
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] sharingan:
thanks bro

no doubt i wil try and post my review

once again i have to say nice work

:good::good::good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] lucky_sidhu:
Good Job mate :good::good::good:

Keep up the good work !!! :good::good::angel::):):D:D
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
Thanks Paaji
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] safereg:
Hi dude

nice job ... :good:

how did you removed knox ?

I guess you have downgraded bootloader or ...

1 - is there any way to flash that bootloader to a stock rom to remove knox ?

2 - is there any way to make knox 0 and dont remove it totally ?

(I tell that becase of this please read : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2740340&page=1)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] 9988338891:
Great work.....

Highly appreciated...:good:

and one more thing what are the changes you made in this ROM any improved battery life

and which Kernel and MOD's

one last thing try to port other ROM's feature in ya next update like AllianceROM or OMEGA ROM

if you need help regrading testing and debugging i can help you with it

you made G900H users proud

keep your work alive
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] Shindsu:
Hello. Thank you for your rom, but it doesn't work for me ._. I did as you told in instructions. Used CWM and Philz wiped/formated and nothing, it just stucks on Samsung GALAXY S5 Powered by Android screen. I tried flashing couple of times, same result. And yes I got g900h model. Any help apretiated.

P.S. I checked md5sum, it's exact as in your post
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
Thanks. Knox has been removed while cooking the Rom itself (using Archikitchen).

No bootloader has not been downgraded. As of now once you trip knox it cannot be reset.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
Are you coming from NG3 to flash this rom. If not, please flash the Ng3 bootloader first using ODIN and then flash the zip (will add a note in OP). I have tested the installation process many times before uploading. Had no issues.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Exynos)] manojpy:
Have not done any tweaking for battery but will definitely have better battery than stock I guess (let me know). Have only added the ad block feature. Cannot add features like alliance and Omega due to limited knowledge and also lack of time from work and personal life. You are free to use this as a base (credit will be appreciated) and take it to next level. I am offering my services as a tester. [emoji4]