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[Galaxy Note 3 General] MatroxD:
I think (and couldn't agree with you more), that it's demographics, age, profession (yes that plays a major factor), and experience. Let me elaborate:

Someone from a less developed country, may not be as advanced as we are, and I'm "guessing" honestly, they just haven't gotten the yet or, someone that has time to sit and diddle or something. Such is the case with him. He said "playing games and at home". I don't have time to play games!

When I'm at home, I am sitting in front of a television screen, on my chromebook, or working on my laptop(either personal or one of two work devices). I have gone through the "gaming" phase of life(owned every gaming system up until the latest generation) and I spend 2 hours every night doing reports for work. During that time, I get calls from my team on work related issues. How would I be able to be productive with "any sized phone" in my hand? I am working on a laptop simultaneously.. Its called multi tasking and professionals do it every single day! That's how we make a half way decent living..

I don't either have the space(with my laptop bag and backpack), or simply, I'm not going to carry a silly tablet with me to work when I don't have to(That is simply counter productive to a mobile means). And I don't because the note does all that a tablet would do and more..

For example, and if people would look at the proper intent of the device, it was designed to rid some of the clutter! The ads, and this is from day one, have been about productivity! Carrying a tablet or better yet attaching any phone to my face for the hours I spend at work and working once I get home, is absolutely ridiculous! Not to mention the hours I spend driving, but still on the clock.. It's easy to pull out the pen, take a note, a number, an email or regular address, pull back on the road, keep going, enter a change in maps, make a call connected Bluetooth in my car, shoot a quick email, or simply address the note later. Or let's see, take a picture, add a note to the back of it our annotate it, and send it to my team..

It is a very reliable and efficient tool as long as you know how to use it and have the "need". For those, and yes, they many not be as many who sit and play games all day, get one or two calls, maybe a day or a week, and neither travel or move around a lot, a smaller screen may be our would sound great(But then, why do you have a note in the first place?! It's anyone's prerogative, but don't blame us, or get huffy with those that actually "use" the thing). Now, there are plenty of fast, big screened phones or devices. Honestly, if I were gaming with a phone, I wouldn't buy or choose a note, but I am a "right tool for the right job" kind of guy. I use, and for the 3 years this device has been out, have always used it as a tool. And it's very good at it! So for many, who actually use it, in its intended purpose, additional screen size is always welcome and needed. And I'm not even going to get started on multi-window!

For us, to keep paying what Samsung is asking every year, it's getting hard to get excited. At least from my perspective..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ongbac:
Buy a 8.4 Galaxy tab S with LTE, it can make calls too :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Grimlock1973:
I am looking into that option as we speak. The only downside to buying an unlocked tab or phone is that it won't have U.S. 4g lte speed. I would also have to move away from Sprint and sign on with Tmobile or ATT. Decisions decisions....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] yogi217:
After having the note 3 for a month, I think a 5.9 screen would be awesome!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ShadowLea:
The whole 'any bigger and it won't fit my jeans' excuse is hilarious.

I'm a woman who only wears skinny jeans, and I can fit the 6.3" Mega in them without issue. Not to mention my Note 3 with Otterbox commuter.

Admittedly it's not very flattering. Fortunately for me, I don't care what others think.

So if you're a bloke complaining about that, you're doing something wrong. ;) (did you know you can extend your pockets?)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] d12unk13astard:
If the note 4 stays at 5.7 inches thats fine with me, i'd think they could get away with 5.8-5.9 by slimming down the bezels and not increasing phone size. Major specs that im looking for are:

a. 64gb option available stateside, with 32gb being the norm.

b. Touchwiz better optimized and slimmed down/less bloatware.

c. Stereo speakers, note 3 speakers were weak as hell!!

d. QHD screen is not needed imho and just eats more battery, being that it does have QHD screen they best be packing a 4k Mah battery to compete with that screen!(even tho i plan on buying a ZL battery anyways eventually)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] joebongo:
The 3gb RAM spec leaked today has disappointed me. I'm not feeling the same excitement anymore as it sounds like it's not going to be a groundbreaking upgrade.

Might be wrong and hope I am.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Alexei Volkoff:
I've been using the Note 3 for 9 months now (after a year using the Note 2). The primary use of my phone is work related tasks, like reading emails and documents attached to them, replying to emails, taking quick notes while on the move, browsing the web for information, etc.

Believe it or not, I find the 5.7" a tad small for these task in a professional environment. "Buy a tablet them!" I already hear some of you say. The problem is that a tablet won't fit my pockets and a phablet does. I need my hands free and a tablet would be too cumbersome to carry all day. I've owned the Mega 6.3 for a short period but I couldn't help feeling it was a downgrade from my Note 2, even though I loved the screen size (but not its quality), so I went for the Note 3.

Will I buy the note 4? No. Why? Screen remains at 5.7" After having owned all these big phones, for me the sweet spot between screen size and portability sits at 6". Sharp and Huawei have proven that bezels can be reduced to razor thin sizes and a 6" phone with those razor-thin bezels wouldn't be noticeably bigger than the actual Note 3, so I don't see why the Note 4 shouldn't have a 5.9-6.0" screen. With today's technology, overall size increase would have been negligible if the screen was, say, 5.9".

Why did Samsung sit at 5.7"? I guess they were afraid that some customers would start finding the device too big. Well, they were right since some of you do. However, the core of the phablet concept is BIG devices. By being so conservative they probably kept a few customers that fear that 6" is too big but they will surely lose some, like me and probably the OP.

I don't know what my next phablet will be. Maybe the Ascend p7 (6" and a fingerprint sensor look tempting) or maybe I'll just keep my Note 3 for a year more. Having a stylus has turned out not to be that useful and I hate the Note series poor sunlight legibility more and more with every summer that goes by.

In a nutshell, I do understand the original OP. This conservative approach to the Note 4's screen size hasn't pleased me either.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pete4k:
Back in October last year, there was a rumor of waterproof version of Note3 coming out soon. I was waiting for it until end of November and finally gave up and bought N3. So I'm hoping N4 is finally that waterproof Note rumored almost a year ago and very likely i'll get it. Otherwise I'm not sure, there are improvements in many specs but nothing earth shattering to make me jump. I'm very happy with Note3 and probably wouldn't care about slight improvements in low light pics, tiny bit faster response or rounded icons etc. And just to address waterproof comments I've seen in the past posts: I'm not engineer by profession (despite finishing engineering school) but there is zero airflow inside the Note3 case to help cooling it and therefore waterproofing N4 by itself would have zero effect on how hot it will run.

On the other hand there is a reason most phones have water sensors inside them, possibly because many people water damage their phones, so I'm surprised not many see this as good selling point. Anybody who goes boating, goes with kids to water park or simply gets stuck outside in heavy unexpected downpour could benefit from waterproof phone.

As far as RAM goes, more RAM there is, more crap is loaded there, I can clearly see that comparing memory load between my wife's 2GB GS3 and my 3GB N3, running same Android version and it's the main reason I root my phone, to stop never used by me programs to load and run my battery down, but that's a whole other topic.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
5.5" is ample

Wireless charging out the box is a must

No bezels or near as damn it

Tap on/off

No Knox & all the security garbage

Better quality display the N3

Cheaper

Available straight away - No waiting 3 weeks for a stupid delayed release - Sim Free first!!!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Grant Barker:
We will know very soon. The Note 4 could be my next phone too. If it's not my cup of tea, I'll probably try Windows Phone for the first time..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] artorelis:
Slightly bigger screen, let's say 6inch with nice screen to bezel ratio would be a dream come true. ?:)

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Noteworthy thoughts. You have a nice looking Samsung Galaxy Note 3 with 5.7 inch screen! Why we need to rush and get another one with....5.7 inch screen? Slightly better design? 4k screen resolution? The same 3GB RAM and the same 32GB inside memory or maybe even less? ⏳:cool:

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You mentioned Windows Phone. It is clearly too early to move to WP. Do that "first time" after a couple of years, not now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mr.galaxy:
IMHO, I really don't care about the screen size. What I don't like the new trend by samsung and HTC of knox and s-on bull****. All we want is device to have good specs and be root friendly

I am seriously thinking of switching to nexus device next time.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Geeks Empire:
i

6" and bigger are small tablets and note Phablet...

in my opinion we cannot expect every time bigger screen for phones

or even different design

if company find good size and design and material they should work on it and improve it instead of silly changes...

Note 3 5.7" and its design was so good

> enough durability

> good bezel

+ great features and hardware

:good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rushless:
I'll be pissed if it has a display BIGGER than 5.7". So there! :)

I think the Nvidia Shield tablet will have a LTE version. Maybe the op can get that instead. Same big premise :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I'll be pissed if the speaker is crappy like on the Note 3..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MatroxD:
Actually, I hadn't thought about that one some I use Bluetooth or Chromecast, but you are 200% right!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I still maintain that my Note 2 audio and speaker beats my Note 3 hands down..

Hoping the 4 doesn't disappoint in that respect again..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MatroxD:
I concur on that too! The other part that really makes my bum itch is all of this locked bootloader fubar! As much as these things cost, they have the nerve!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] force70:
Same size screen would be a joke, if Samsung has high hopes on this device it should be bigger but with much smaller bezels.

Im a normal/average sized man..5 ft 11 inches 200lbs and don't find the N3 too big whatsoever.. Texting with one hand isn't an issue nor is putting the device in my pockets. Average sized hands also...

If your only a Lil guy and vertically challenged then yes I spoke its perhaps a bit big. My buddy is tiny at 5ft 7 and he can barely hold it lol...not the devices fault you need to choose what suites your anatomy.

Better speaker yes for sure.

Better camera (I think that's a lock)

More ram or more efficient and/or less bloated stock ROM.

64gb internal storage option would be fantastic .

I hope Sammy doesn't drop the ball on this device...after having to pass on the G3 and its locked boot loader I'm dying for something new. I've had my N3 since launch day...def need something new.

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
You'll be pissed? Why? WHy not enjoy a better resolution on the same size display? 5.7 inches is plenty. Get a nexus 7 or better yet a galaxy mega.

I personally hope samsung does not increase the display size anymore. If they could just refine the design with each release then ill be happy.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZ Eddie:
Looks like a lot of cases showing up on Amazon for the Note 4 and all showing the exact same style/size. And get this, a speaker on the back.

I'm kind of bummed that we get another crap speaker.

And it doesn't look like water resistance is part of the plan.

Also, I'm going to go ahead and say the phone gets released to the public on the 15th, according to the pictured lockscreen wallpaper on this phone. :)

http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Galax...UTF8&qid=1409721660&sr=8-14&keywords="note+4"
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kuromusha38:
please God make it a 5.9+, I will go to Church this Sunday.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
That's a ridiculous size for a phablet.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
This is real deal, they just showed.

Sent from Galaxy Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kuromusha38:
5.7 inch confirmed!

not interested. FU Samsung...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
Galaxy note edge, wow. Its realllll.

Sent from Galaxy Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
Only on one side - It looks silly, half finished.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sirobelec:
At least now we know what Note will have what SoC... N910C could be for Curved or something... :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZ Eddie:
The Note 4 has the same 5.7" screen but now the body is both taller and wider.

No water resistance.

USB 3.0 changed to 2.0.

Speaker moved from the bottom to the back.

Same basic battery capacity.

Upsides are better front & rear cameras and an x64 CPU.

This may be the first time I've not upgraded to a latest generation Samsung phone. Ugh.

I'm going to stick with my Note 3, especially now that AOSP is 99% awesome.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
What about the QHD screen? The Note 3 screen was dire. Always looked fuzzy to me.

Shame there is no wireless charging out the box.

USB 3.0 was a waste of time.

No Knock on/off - Come on it's a flagship device.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sirobelec:
I'm watching it, but have no sound here...

The USB is motherf***ing 2.0?!?

Samsung, what the s**t?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZ Eddie:
Engadget came up with size & other specs with their hands-on.

http://www.engadget.com/2014/09/03/samsung-galaxy-note-4-hands-on/

Man, I use glasses to read my phone. I'd have been just fine with 720P.

QHD is about as useful as USB 3.0.

I think I'm actually okay with the 2.0 downgrade since it makes it easier to fit the phone into universal docks.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kuromusha38:
not if you going to get the Gear VR. The QHD will look awesome.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sohebq:
Why the hell they removed the water resistant? I badly wanted to have this. I might skip too or get the edge version.

Sent from Galaxy Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] q8peace:
64?

did they say it was 64bit i still confused?

also did they missing fingerprint or retina scan was true ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ruchirtrehan:
The Exynos version of Note 4 is 64 bit, no retina scanner (was obvious) I aint sure about fingerprint scanner as they dint speak anything about it but have been reading specs on several websites which claim it does have it, which was expected.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kwankl:
Really hate the speaker on the back!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] d12unk13astard:
Daayyyumnnn they really messed up the note 4 launch, that edge looks like sh!t,dont think too many people will buy it. The note 4 has very marginal specs if your coming from note 3 its not worth dropping 7-800 cash.. perfect for note 2 owners tho coming around from their 2 year upgrade.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZ Eddie:
I don't think one thing has anything to do with the other?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pete4k:
I'm disappointed there is no waterproofing, so I'm not buying it. Funny thing, I was just talking about that to my friend, he tells me he went out bike riding last weekend, got caught in heavy storm and his $700 Note 3 works no more. If he can't fix it he may be getting Note 4, maybe that's Samsung plan.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] NoteboyTech:
I am happy with what samsung announced a couple of hours back..

I own a note 1 lol worthy upgrade for me..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] force70:
Coming from a note 1 yes for sure..note 2 to note 3 was also a worthwhile jump but not note 3 to 4....very disappointing for a lot of us.

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
I think Samsung has done a heck of a job with the Note 4.

First, they didnt put a bigger display. This device is a flagship that even women buy, no need 6 inches.

The metal used at the right spot while keeping the polycarbonate back for removable battery.

QHD display

S805

OIS

And more. This thing is a BEAST!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] force70:
I think I'd rather have a G3 than Note 4 honestly... Just can't get past that damn locked bootloader thing lol.

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
Personally even with a locked bootloader, i prefer the Note 4. The G3 is a lagfest. And it also has a locked bootloader. EVery model.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lilstevie:
The thing I am most disappointed in is the removal of USB3. That is the one area where the note 4 is a real regression.

Unless you get a carrier variant, providing it remains the same as the current note the bootloader is not locked, the knox warranty bit does not prevent you from using custom kernels or rooting, what it does prevent you from doing (and rightfully so) is accessing data contained within knox containers, and (incorrectly) ever making new knox containers again even if you reflash to stock.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
Where does it say about the N4 having a locked bootloader?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
Why? What benefit did USB 3.0 give you?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nighthawk626:
Charged my phone faster than the other 3 chargers I have in the house and the charge lasted longer too
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sweeney_uk:
the charge speed depends on the adapter, my 2amp lenovo tab charger with standard micro usb cable charges the same speed as the original note 3 charger and cable. the extra pins on the usb 3 cable are data only i believe
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nighthawk626:
Must be magic cuz with the same adapter, still different results
[Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
So you must have missed the part where samsung improved the charging time of the Note 4. Itll charge from 0 to 50% in 30 min. The note 3 didnt do that. So what other advantages?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nighthawk626:
It made me sandwiches. There I said it. ****ing sandwiches
[Galaxy Note 3 General] barondebxl:
There's really no disadvantages for going back to usb 2.0 since samsung has managed to improve the charging time.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Armazia:
To the people who can't imagen that the note 4 acutally does have a 5.7" screen;

I can't imagen how you want it bigger than 5.7"... This size actually is max for using with one hand. Maybe 6, but nothing more. imo they only should increase the size of the screen if the bezels are smaller..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] force70:
Tmo is unlocked

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+

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I wanted bigger but as you say the bezel should be smaller.

LG can do it..Samsung your losing the battle in some ways..wake up!

5.9 or 6. Would be great.

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+

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For ppl who run ext HDD or USB otg transfer times are slower with 2.0..I've tested both and 3.0 is considerably faster with a 3.0 compliant device

Sent from my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZ Eddie:
Regarding charging time and USB type, just wanted to let you guys know that as far as Android today goes, the USB 2.0 vs. 3.0 has nothing to do with speed.

The charging speed is two-part. If you have a 1 Amp adapter then you're not likely to charge faster than 1000 mAh.

If you have a 2 amp adapter, then you're not likely to charge faster than 2000 mAh. Doesn't matter if it's USB 2.0 or 3.0, the amperage is what counts here.

The other part of the charging is how fast the phone will let itself charge.

You can hook the phone up to a 3 amp charger but the Note 3 phone will still limit itself to 1800 mAh.

Galaxy S4 charged at 1900 mAh, btw.

I'm sure there are other technical details that factor in also, but I'm not an electronics Engineer. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sweeney_uk:
Exactly what I was trying to say ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cydiamante:
I think the only dissapiontment for me is the fact that they put the speaker on the back again...everthing else is a worthy upgrade
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Kildemol:
I think I will upgrade, but only next year when L comes in. Unfortunatelly, the fingerprint is still more a gimmick than a practical feature as it looks Google is not going to support this way of authorization...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vixrulez4ever:
I'm not so much impressed with the Note4 upgrades

My N9005 is charges 0 to 100% in about 45 mins with screen on all the while and 3G data enabled. QHD screen,Camera with OIS and Snpdrgn 805 with Adreno 420 upgrade were pretty much obvious. I was expecting 64-bit processor this time around and much better interface. I'm sure can have all the new S-pen features like SnapNote,etc, the We-fie(Wide Selfie) for the front cam and the multi-tasking capabilities ported to my current Note3 very soon. It's just a matter of time.;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bogdan1980:
My n9005 charge till 100% in about 1h 40 min..... On wall plug.

Note 3 rooted knox 1, my last Samsuck crap. I want freedom. Stay away from Samsuck!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kuromusha38:
Nexus 6 will inspire Samsung to innovate. Note 5 will have a six inch screen.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
I do hope not. 6" is way too big for a phone.

The Nexus 6 is ridiculous size.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JCM800:
I sincerely hope the nexus 6 inspires Samsung to use dual stereo speakers, HTC still didn't inspire them, for the love of God Samsung, sort out the crappy note 4 audio in the Note 5 release...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Zevin64:
Not sure if I should get Nexus 6 or Note 4. Or keep my Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Beefheart:
The idea of a phone having a bigger screen than the Note 3 is a bit ridiculous to me. Even a 6" screen is too big to be a phone but too small to be a tablet. The Note 4 improving on the resolution and technology of the Note 3 screen yet retaining the physical size was the correct decision.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kuromusha38:
Improving on resolution that has no practical benefit was the right decision? Even Apple knows the screen pixel war is futile. Note 4 sucks with it's QHD 5.7 inch display and everyone knows.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Beefheart:
No, Apple knew they can release a pint glass containing a turd and idiots would flock to buy it providing it had their emblem printed on it. They know they had no need to improve the resolution beyond what had become the standard so why bother? Far better to spend money designing the device look as 'trendy' as possible, something which has now backfired.

I agree there is little point in going beyond a certain resolution when we're talking about screens below a certain size, but anyone who has held a Note 4 with a Note 3 side by side (as I have) would know there is a discernable difference in the DPI that is worth having, on top of the quality increase. Essential? No, but what is in the mobile phone world at the moment? If I based what I wanted from mobile phones on what I find 'practically useful', I'd still own my Galaxy S2.

As for your 'sucks' comment, it's barely worth a response. Suffice to say it's a stupid comment.