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[G3 General] redeyss:
Hey this is still a quality phone! I love to try different roms but in a way it's nice NOT to have so many choices, helps me just be happy with what I have instead of looking for greener grass constantly. That being said, this thing would kill with a cloudy stock rom, my G2 got killer battery life on cloudy G3 rom...

Sent from my LG-D850
[G3 General] hashcheck:
Z3 has boot loader unlocked but apparently breaks DRM on Camera software hence camera doesn't function as well source gsmarena
[G3 General] ShadowVlican:
unlocking the bootloader on my Sony Z ultra did take away some features... but they weren't that important to me anyways :p

if LG is forever locking this phone's bootloader, my next phone will also be a Sony
[G3 General] silvioslim:
Just a question.

I wonder know if the bootloader can be unlocked by LG team or can be done by, for example, the cyanogen team?
[G3 General] Mistertac:
Not sure what you mean by LG Team. Cyanogen makes Roms and they also have their very own phone now so I doubt they'll be working on the G3.

LG could certainly unlock the phones and have that ability, just it's not going to happen from them, have to wait for our G3 Devs to crack it and that's much harder than it sounds.

- Tapatalked From The G3 -
[G3 General] trent999:
LG never unlocked the G2 boot loader, but there was the lokisploit discovery that allowed most of what an unlocked boot loader would have. What I have heard, though, is that a good number of G2 owners managed to somehow destroy their G2 display by installing something via the lokisploit, due to not really understanding what they were doing. Then many of them sent their G2's they had damaged back to LG for warranty repair...

LG noticed and is being Very Careful this time with the G3 to be sure this sort of thing will not happen to them again. So the story goes.

Does anyone know whether any of this is true ? Damaged displays ?
[G3 General] Kameirus:
Never had that issue with my g2
[G3 General] trent999:
Neither has my lady Susan on hers, but then she has never rooted it nor run the lokisploit on hers. So, there is no way she could have trashed her display. That is the way LG likes it.
[G3 General] tabenf:
Depends what you mean by damaged displays,but it was white lines on the right hand side of the display,and it was not the users fault,it was because all the newer G2's had different display panels so the older kernel blobs did not go well with the newer displays,soon after this a app was made by devs to detect the display of G2 before flashing ROM and a separate kernel was made for the newer displays,and not long after that they incorporated this into an all in one auto detect ROM,kernel method!
[G3 General] trent999:
Thanks ! I had never heard the details - this clears the situation up for me. I am not surprised the situation was corrected, but was the "damage" done initially to some displays permanent, or was it correctable via a reflash of different firmware ?
[G3 General] tabenf:
It was permanent Loki was in the recovery I'm sure if you went back to stock complete with stock recovery Loki was not detectable ,but I'm not sure maybe lg did see the exploit in this manner or maybe some guy did not go back to stock and just send the phone in lol,possibilities are endless
[G3 General] sheraz2:
Tweaks box and xposed does it for me.
[G3 General] glaudrem:
They won't get you to CM or PA. I know you may not like them but some of us do and want
[G3 General] Xerionius:
Have you ever tasted AOSP-experience? For example CM11: It's simplistic and has a great performance, but it still has everything you will need and it's amazing how customizable it is. I like the LG UI on the G3 and most things look really nice, like for example the lockscreen, the camera app and the app-switcher, but my more than 2 years old Oppo Find 5 (Snapdragon S4) running CM11 still has a better performance than my G3 (Snapdragon 801). I'm missing a few options on the G3 that were included in CM11 and the LG UI just takes up SOO much ram.

Sure, AOSP isn't everyone's thing am even I am not sure if I will install a custom rom or keep using the stock rom because I love the way the LG UI looks. Probably I will switch to CM when there is a more or less stable Android L rom available, but I guess it will be a while until that happens. :)
[G3 General] Azurael:
I'm sceptical: people on here with never-exploited G2s reported the same thing happening. I think it was just a design fault of some sort or bug in the stock LG firmware.

I know people with Nexus 4s sometimes killed displays with way out of range gamma settings, and the symptoms were similar: lines down the screen/parts fading... So this mode of failure does appear to be software induced (or at least software inducible) but presumably if this was the cause of G2 LCD failures and they occurred on a non-exploited device running stock firmware, LG got something wrong - there are no user exposed gamma controls on a stock kernel, so even if the device was rooted I can't see it could have been anything but an LG bug.

Although I had a similar failure on a One X, from a component partially desoldering itself from the motherboard which I speculate to be caused by heat (like the XBox 360 Mk.1 failures) although it could have been mechanical load.

Basically: Who knows? But I don't think it has anything to do with what Loki is doing.
[G3 General] Roseysdaddy:
I had the lines issue on my g2. Flashed PA every week, once saw the lg logo melt on random reboot and everything was fine. Then a few weeks later the lines started.
[G3 General] trent999:
I have a OnePlusOne on the way currently, so since the processors are the same but the display is more rationally chosen on the 1+1, and it comes with CM11, I should be in a good position to compare my VG3 to its open cousin soon.

I just wish I could use the 1+1 with my Verizon LTE sim...oh, well. The G3 is still probably the best Verizon phone out now, until maybe Shamu-shamu drops.
[G3 General] Azurael:
I have experienced a few weird failures during boot up at the point when the ROM or recovery boot screen should have come up that resulted in bright static filling the screen followed by black lines slowly fading in... A reboot always fixes it and leaves the backlight somewhat flickery for a few minutes afterward in this case. Oddly I have seen this on my G2, both Nexus 4s we owned and my 2013 N7 which makes me suspect it must be a Qualcomm video driver bug. Not common by any means but I saw it on one of the Nexus 4s before it had ever had its boot loader unlocked. I wonder if this is in any way related to the outright failures others have seen.
[G3 General] Mistertac:
I'm with you there man... Stupid Verizon. I check everyday for updates on the Nex 6 actually coming to Verizon... The rumors have me all worked up lol

Most likely I'll switch over to T-Mobile if things don't pan out with the G3 or Shamu.
[G3 General] gparmar76:
For people who can't wait for the unlock, wouldn't it be better to just buy an older phone that supports CM11 and use that for a few months? I have been using T-Mobile for years and had a true unlimited plan that I had to drop because of my new job. I'm working ion an area that has zero signal from all the carriers except for Verizon...so I had to switch, got the G3 and am now in the world of locked bootloaders and pain.....I have a S-Off M8 that I was using on T-Mobile and it hurts looking at that beautiful phone sit on my desk at home.

Can someone suggest a relatively cheap phone that supports CM11 on Verizon? I miss CM and until it's readily available for the Verizon G3, I'm willing to spend up to $175 on an older/used Verizon LTE phone that I can unlock/root easily. I'm thinking Droid Ultra but hopefully you guys can chime in with suggestions....I'm not selling my G3 and have full faith that the guys and gals working on unlocking it will be successful in the near future....maybe they will give all of us a nice Christmas gift this year. ;)
[G3 General] Mistertac:
There's a Verizon S4 with the MDK Bootloader on Swappa for $240. I'd go with that. I loved mine and there are a ton of Roms for the S4.

If you look into Verizon S4s just be certain it has the mdk bootloader that's all. That's the only build that could be Loki'd and run a custom recovery.
[G3 General] dabug123:
Yep I will be switching in the coming weeks I don't see unlock happening any time soon..Thanks to the Dev for giving a go though.
[G3 General] kennypow3rs:
This is me...
[G3 General] sohailkhan877:
pretty sure my tmobile G3 is boot loader pre unlocked

im pretty sure my tmobile lg G3 came with an unlocked boot loader. So yeah.
[G3 General] suljo94:
if you count a loki like exploit to be a unlock you better lose some skin because a loki like exploit was found 1 month ago they won't release it untill they are sure a clean unlock is out of the question
[G3 General] vestaviajag:
Is anyone actively working on this? I feel like I haven't heard any news about the unlock for about a month. I imagine thecubed got pissed with all the negativity. I wouldn't blame him, some of the negitive and entitled posts directed at him before he went on vacation was pathetic and asinine. I know justincase looked at it w/ his sunshine team, but no word from him either. Just curious if the devs who can make this happen are still working on it, or did they move on to better things? Has anyone heard any news from the devs?
[G3 General] Jank4AU:
I'm sure they are; however, when I poked my head into the irc channel to politely ask how it was coming, I had my head bitten off and was told to gtfo. They are funny and secretive like that. When they're ready, we'll get an update from them, I guess. I think these locked bootloaders are like a challenge to them. They'll figure it out.

It was either on the LGOG or the G2, they weren't ready for that exploit to come out and it caused all sorts of grief and red a$$ when it was released early. They are just super cautious because they don't want USERS to brick their devices doing something even the devs aren't confident works all the time and consistently. Be patient, this phone has a lot of potential and upside.
[G3 General] gutikuvc:
Agree

Yes i agree, its an amazing phone, hope find the way soon, i have a lot confidense in devs

All are amazing, smart and work very hard for us

Thank u all
[G3 General] kjwaugh:
Amen to that brothers and sisters. We need the devs, so let's let them do their thing in peace. It's all going out the window when Android L comes out anyways.
[G3 General] vestaviajag:
Oh, I understand their cautiousness completely. I just figured without any word/update in over a month the devs decided to move on from this headache (mainly the whiny, impatient). I was just wondering if anyone KNEW someone was working on it. I hope they still are, and hope they are making progress. I also hope to apologize to them for any annoying/negative people in these forums who I've seen countless times ask for ETAs and spewing their negative comments. I'm sure they get sick of stuff like that.

BTW, War Damn Eagle!
[G3 General] kennypow3rs:
Yeah we can hope and wish but people are will to dump 5k into the hands of a dev or team who unlocks this thing.

At the end of the day we can wish in one hand, poop in the other and see which one fills up the fastest. Im not mad/upset but i just cant believe its been so long and no one has released and unlock. I say by end of october im going to just list my G3 on swappa and pull the trigger on the Sony Xperia Z3 since nothing else out right now is grabbing my attention. To any devs that have and are working on an unlock at least, kudos to you and XDA is thankful people are at least trying...
[G3 General] twistedspace:
You should never expect a release of anything. You don't ask. If they don't release anything you don't get mad. They didn't even have to use up their time to even try to do something for you.
[G3 General] Jank4AU:
I don't see anything wrong with just getting a progress update. It's not asking for an ETA, just asking to get some feedback on what's going on, what issues they're running into, what things have/have not worked. Just communication, that's all. Granted, they don't have to give us that, either. But I promise you that it would make everything a LOT nicer for everyone and more folks wouldn't feel so out of the loop and desperate for info or feel like they need to ditch their G3. Please understand, I'm not saying they're right to feel that way, I'm only describing my perception of how they feel and maybe why they feel that way. I think it would be better for everyone if we were all more understanding of other points of view. It's against XDA etiquette to ask for ETA's, there's no such taboo in just asking for communication. Whether people want to communicate or not is their prerogative.

I believe IOMonster (TheCubed), posted something a couple weeks ago. Again, it would be nice, not expected or owed, but nice if maybe they could appoint a liaison or drop in from time to time to provide a little information as to what's going on. That's all. Would that be so bad or hard to do? Just thought I'd throw my perspective out there while I'm staring patiently out the window....
[G3 General] suljo94:
last post was on 29/09(feeling like a stalker)

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55729952&postcount=5
[G3 General] thecubed:
Hi there, it's me!

I recognize everyone's frustration, I really do.

That said, I have been away for a while and haven't had time to respond on XDA - and every time I did, I was seen as antagonizing the bounty or whatever (not in any way saying you were accusing me of that), so I just decided to go dark for a bit.

Trust me, I'll let you all know when we have something. I feel like those who are patient will win this one big time soon.

Thanks!
[G3 General] Jank4AU:
Thanks a lot, brother. Just seeing one of you guys pop in now and again is reassuring to a lot of the guys here, myself included. Thanks for taking the time...it does wonders for the morale!
[G3 General] vestaviajag:
and THIS will get me through the day! Thanks [MENTION=1157052]thecubed[/MENTION]! Appreciate the hard work and dedication, keep up the good work!
[G3 General] Cuzz1369:
You are right. It is getting frustrating. But at the same time I realize with my limited knowledge I have no choice but to be patient. Just know that we all appreciate the work you guys are doing for us.
[G3 General] thecubed:
Okay, I might have lied about not having it done yet... plz2not be mad :)

ATT Variant: http://xdaforums.com/att-lg-g3/orig-development/bump-unlock-lg-g3-twrp-t2900569

Others soon to come, once I edit my forum post for each device.

To those of you who thought we couldn't or wouldn't, ha! you were wrong - go cry in the corner.
[G3 General] if4ct0r:
Awesome!!!!!!! :D You just made our day(s) so so so much better!

ROM developers - on your marks.... get set.... bump! ;)

w00t!
[G3 General] lossah:
It's Friday and it's, definitely, the best day of the week. Waiting for D855!
[G3 General] CheesyNutz:
Read the info they say it should work on all variants
[G3 General] lossah:
I did. And I know. That's why I'm waiting for the how to-post. :)
[G3 General] p70shooter:
It's here :)
[G3 General] nerdo:
Great news man! Thanks for being patient and civil about the all the noise that has become a must with such projects lately unfortunately!

I so like to see the faces of those "I sold my G3 because LG will not unlock HIS bootloader" ;)
[G3 General] TwinHeadedEagle:
Great news, thank you very much. Will donate.
[G3 General] vestaviajag:
THIS IS AWESOME! Can't wait for the Sprint variant!!! Thank you so much, I knew you could do it!

This made my night right here, hilarious!
[G3 General] T1nk3r:
Not to worry LG, Team Codefire just stuck it to you good! :D
[G3 General] sabret00the:
Sorry I doubted you.
[G3 General] falco9388:
Wow, this is awesome!!! Great job guys!!!:victory::victory::victory:

It's the best news of the mouth! I'll stay tuned for d855 unlock!

Now go go go modders and developers!:victory:
[G3 General] strix75:
Yes great news. Finally I can unlock my D855.

Will donate.
[G3 General] mosec:
If I understand right, this still doesn't work with D855, right?
[G3 General] falco9388:
Yes, doesn't work for d855. Must wait a little bit.
[G3 General] the_third:
When that guy did the petition, he said after they responded, it didn't take them too long to push an update to the g2 so it could happen
[G3 General] justen7723:
I wouldn't care because I'm already unlocked, rooted, rom'd and won't be taking any OTAs [emoji12]
[G3 General] mattwheat:
Don't get your hopes up. That's customer relations answering you in a way that doesn't for sure say when or if they truly will provide a boot loader unlock. We got the same letter for the G Flex as well. And I've seen the same letter for the G2. And Motorola sent out a similar letter back in the RAZR / Atrix days. Notice it says "security restrictions,carrier policy". That's their escape goat, their fall back excuse if you will. With more and more people learning to develop these days, the carriers start to fear customers will come aboard for the cheap price of the flagship devices then jump ship to carriers like T-Mobile for the unlimited and cheaper plans by unlocking them. Not to mention the warranty claims for bricked devices because " I don't know what happened , its my 14 year old sons phone and he said he took an update that made it not boot up any more" kids follow XDA or the parents even. And don't take the time to learn and read thru before little johnny over there tries to flash iOS 7.2 to his Galaxy S5. And who can blame them. But either way fact if the matter is when we buy a phone it should still be our choice. And locking bootloaders was never what "OPEN HANDSET ALLIANCE".com had in mind when they started Android. The idea it was based on was for developers and consumers alike to have ample opportunity to learn development and be able to customize their device as they see fit. And to encourage new and better development through Android Open Source Project.

So I call out " Open Handset Alliance". Where are you at and why are you allowing this to continue?
[G3 General] southern87:
New laws just passed and signedthat a customer can carrier unlock there phone aslong as you are not on contract. Art next program you are not under contract and such so you can go to globula. You still have to pay the installment payments and all.
[G3 General] thecubed:
Haha, I'm fairly confident the section of code I'm looking at right now is LG's official unlock ;)
[G3 General] PlayfulGod:
sim unlock and bootloader unlock are two completely different things tho. ;)
[G3 General] SilverZero:
Hey, I was gonna say that. :(
[G3 General] mattwheat:
Yes they are. If you're rooted it isn't that hard to carrier unlock whether they will allow it or not. But the boot loader is a whole different ballgame. But there's new hope, I read an article informing us that Dan Rosenberg ( thefirst man to crack a manufacturers boot loader ) explains that the loop hole he discovered and exploited to crack the Motorola boot loader may be bread into several of the high end devices even still. But some may have already been patched with the security updates that have flooded these devices. So who knows maybe he or someone with higher knowledge may be able to reverse engineer his exploit to help get others unlocked.
[G3 General] sille:
So i guess now you won't take down your work and wait for something that maybe will never happen?

I really appreciate that!
[G3 General] southern87:
I was refereeing to the jumping ship to tmobile. Why would it matter if you unlocked the bootloader to unlock the carrier when its legal again.
[G3 General] thecubed:
I definitely am not going to hold my breath for an official LG unlock. We've known that LG has been working on one for a while, and it's been evident in the restructure of their bootloader code (the Optimus G initial bootloader vs the OTA bootloaders were rather different, and the G Pro shipped with the first bootloader that 'could' be unlocked). I don't believe that they're going to have it done within the next few months.

Ever heard of "Valve Time"? I think "LG Time" should be a thing too...
[G3 General] PlayfulGod:
He also stated it didnt work on all LG's and Samsungs and specifically said on his twitter it wouldnt work on LGs and to stop asking him about it. ;)
[G3 General] mattwheat:
Well hell that sucks.
[G3 General] PlayfulGod:
dont need unlocked bootloader to sim unlock. one has nothing to do with the other. ;)

Sim unlocking is easy if the devices is paid for/off. Simply call the carrier and request the unlock code. ;)

Otherwise would need to use one of the many sites that provide the unlock code.

Or use the method when rooted which I have no clue on as I never needed it.
[G3 General] southern87:
Few years ago a DCMA law or whatever expired and they didn't have too. Tmobile wouldn't unlock a phone for us.
[G3 General] PlayfulGod:
yea but it was only in affect for a couple years tops. gsm been around a long time. lol
[G3 General] brolic925t:
Let the games begin
[G3 General] Enddo:
To be fair, you talked with a customer service representative(aka the bottom level of technology company). This could be true but it could also just be a canned message that they are required to give out.

I hope this 'news' doesn't persuade the current community developers from donating their time and effort into unlocking the bootloader. I don't want to be cynical, but like the others have said, I'll believe it when I see it

---------- Post added at 01:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:33 PM ----------

Awesome :)

This is the news I wanted to hear
[G3 General] wolfgart:
What????

I've wrote to official LG Developer account and not to the general or mobile customer service.

This is a real step ahead.
[G3 General] PlayfulGod:
Still believe it when I see it. I've heard from other ppl with open LG communications (yes devs), that LG said they have no plans on doing anything about unlocking bootloaders. There was "no demand" was the quote reasoning, which I found that funny, but ok wtfe. ;)

And since both replies from LG are carbon copies down to the letter, I vote canned reply. BUT, they are different and are on a more positive note in the direction we all would like to see than the usual LG canned replies we've all seen.

So all any of us can do is sit back and wait to see what LG does or doesnt do and continue on with what we do. ;)

I for one have more faith in our devs finding a way to unlock than in LG unlocking anything. ;)
[G3 General] TomerMuster:
Amazing News:)

SO HAPPY the bootloader unlock is finally here. I can't stand LG's UI. I came from Nexus, and i NEED aosp.
[G3 General] strix75:
That is correct my friend. Sorry if I was ahead, but this will work for D855 after awhile.
[G3 General] mosec:
I just hope that this awhile won't be too long :)
[G3 General] radeonxt:
XDA forumers who are owners of LG G3 to LG, thanks anyway! bleeeeh.

hehehe

all hail the brilliant devs.

let's keep BUMPing this thread ftw. :)
[G3 General] Jagdish84:
According to autoprime it was just too late and they needed some shut eye, d855 is just around the corner...

Sent from my caseless LG G3, because I believe in myself
[G3 General] tschmid:
D855 is online

Gesendet von meinem LG-D855 mit Tapatalk
[G3 General] teddy0209:
LOL.... We just got bumped... All hail to the devs and the believers.... =)
[G3 General] D0MINO:
Well I am gonna wait for the Nexus 6 and if it has a 5.2" screen (but not a 6"!) then I will most prob sell my G3 to get it. You are right that there has been too long a wait for an unlock bootloader option..indeed the G2 never had one but you could do it through exploit. I don't really fancy having a session only custom ROM that needs something or another done everytime you reboot/your battery runs dead. This is not very workable.

I bet the Nexus 6 will be unlocked before you can even say Nexus. If not then I imagine Google will provide the solution as they are like that. Will miss the SD card slot and hopefully there will be removable battery..