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[Nexus 5 General] LNJ:
Just played with the G3 and its by far faster than the N5.

But I really hope the N6 is not based on the G3. Don't want last year's gpu on a 2014 phone. Hopefully it is a Snapdragon 805 instead.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Nothing about this statement is true. Lol. That ui lags like ****. Ran it side by side to my nexus 5 running stock ROM and it lags more and doesn't open anything faster. N4 and N5 had the latest CPU at the time so it prolly will on the next version. Snapdragon 805 is a CPU and not a GPU. GPU is the Adreno graphics processing unit (one+ one and lg g3 use Adreno 330 GPU which is the latest and the 2014 - not last years). You are so wow'd by the device it seems u psyched yourself into thinking you know what you're talking about lmao
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Sorry, but the Snapdragon 805 is an SoC, not a CPU. The CPU is the quad-core Krait 400s and the GPU is the Adreno 330, they're both part of the S805 SoC.

Maybe you should also stop thinking you know what you're talking about.. :)
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Boxed me up there! Either way, when u run both devices stock next to each other, the g3 isn't much faster by any means... IF at all. The one at the store lagged and stuttered like it was running touchwiz.
[Nexus 5 General] LNJ:
Yeah whatever! Like the previous guy said, the 805 is a SoC with a newer GPU. Adreno 330 is Adreno 330 no matter if its the one from 2013 or 2014. Only difference is the clock speed bump if any!

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Of course. Not in dispute..almost a derp. We're saying (ineffectevly) that is not a representative sample of the G3' s performance. I'm still an N5 fanboy, but G3 is N5's big brother in most respects and a very nice upgrade.

Sent from my amazing LGG3!
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Haha :p

I dunno, I don't like comparing devices anyways, as they're all tailored to different needs. I've had a chance to play with an LG G3 and it seems just as snappy as the Nexus 5. Same goes for just about every flagship on stock (except the Note 3 I own and never use because I hate it lol..)

Also, the next Nexus device won't be based on the LG G3, the N5 was similar to the G2 because LG manufactured both. LG isn't manufacturing the next one.
[Nexus 5 General] kingston73:
Nobody can say what the nexus 6 will be like because there no info about it at all, just rumors. As far as people saying n5 is or isn't as fast as the g3 you can't base that on using it in a store. I know I only used it for a day but that's longer than a any time in store and the g3 was not appreciably fatter in most situations. My point in starting this thread was to give a heads up so people had reasonable expectations. If or when there are some custom ROMs for the g3 I'm guessing the speed difference will increase and there will actually be a larger gap between the two. I wouldn't hold my breath for that though because as of now the tmo version is the only one with an unlocked boot loader.
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
The problem with the xda community is that many judge a phone by what's on paper, and not real life performance.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Or by a days use with none spent on optimisation and call it 'realistic'.

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[Nexus 5 General] kudaj316:
nexus 5 the greatest

well i love my nexus 5 and im contended with it..c:
[Nexus 5 General] benj!:
I was sorely tempted by the G3 but really put off by LG's skin, after a play with it in store. The dialer, for example, looks total rubbish compared to the Android L one.

I guess LG might update it at some point but I don't think I could put up with it until then. It appears I'm quite fussy about these things :P
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
99% of smartphone owners use their phones the way they come out of the box.

Today's flagships (quadcore with 2/3GB of RAM) that still lag and stutter, or need additional optimisation and tinkering, are just a big fail.
[Nexus 5 General] ekz13:
agreed...I'd almost say that is the carriers fault not the manufacturer

LG (or samsung, htc, whoever) puts a few programs on, then the carrier heaps more crap on .. by the time the consumer loads their favorites on, they've maxed out memory, app space, data limits, and then complain that the phone is crap and doesn't perform well because they don't know to either remove the crap, or that its that junk that is constantly polling for info and eating up precious resources.

my biggest peave with them is that they don't allow users to remove it if they don't want it, it is forced to take front and center stage on the phone in terms of space, ram, data, etc.. unless you know to root, freeze, etc.. which most out of the box consumers don't, they are stuck with it.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
I have a G3 for work and anybody who says it's laggy need new eyes. I'm running stock with a whole load of enterprise software on it and it still outperforms my Nexus 5 in terms of multitasking due to its 3GB of RAM. anyone who says otherwise are just kidding themselves
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Just swype screens on your home screen. Or push home from an app. I understand u like it, but it stutters. I know u think 3gb or ram is the deal maker, but the n5 rarely uses the 2gb (unless you're gaming)... U can put 10gb ram if u want. It stutters and its due to the lg ui.
[Nexus 5 General] jbdan:
I honestly have not played with a G3 that was NOT laggy. That would be 4 G3's I've got my hands on so far.

Listen, this isn't about 'mine is faster than yours'. What's laggy to one person may be smooth to another and vice versa. All I know is that there is no other android phone, as in zero, that is as smooth as the N5. To me :D
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
It's the launcher mate, put Nova on it and it'll be flying. Like I personally find GEL too slow on the N5. And ram is needed for enterprise software when using apps like citrix, autocad 360, matlab, remote rdb, as well as the usual office clients and emails alongside vpn tunneling. The G3 is brilliant for the task :)
[Nexus 5 General] and313:
It is indeed i bet. But the thing is its just almost twice as much money as the n5 without the doubling in performance. Plus i saw a comparison between the n5 and the g3 in heavy duty apps where the g3 works slower then the n5. Thats the problem with all phones which have a android skin running on it even if you use other launchers. But it keeps apps in memory longer...

Anyway there is no big step in between any of this phones. We will see the next step of ui performance and everything when 64bit phones with 8 or more gigs of ram come out
[Nexus 5 General] nigelhealy:
I just bought a OnePlusOne for like half the cost and similar specs in all that matters.

Waiting for Nexus 6. Love the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] SilkyJohnson:
So it's acceptable to you that a top tier device needs an aftermarket launcher to run smoothly?

Should run like that out of the box.
[Nexus 5 General] topgeardave:
I've been using Nova since ICS, I'm at a stage where I can't use any other launcher haha
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
So it's acceptable to you to reject a top tier device based on its default launcher? Takes literally minutes to correct...I just don't understand this reasoning...as an owner of G1 Nexus One, Nexus S, Nexus 4 and Nexus 5. We're at a stage where hardware and capabilities are where the upgrade path lies...software itself is mutable and even treasured updates are transient.

Sent from my amazing LGG3!
[Nexus 5 General] ps000000:
LG G3 South Korea has Snap 805 inside.:silly:
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
On the contrary, we're at a stage where upgrading hardware is reaching a plato, and when software is actually making the real difference between devices.

Concerning launchers, you are forgetting that many features/apps/bloat (call it what you want) work only with the stock launcher of a certain device.

Also, i don't know how can i explain to my sister or father who are not into tech in any way, that their >500$ galaxy S4 is known to lag, but will work better with something called "Nova Launcher"?!

People expect things to work as marketed out of the box, without any workarounds, especially after paying that much for something.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
In context of this thread, the G3 affords significant hardware advances over the N5 (soc, ram, cam, IR blaster, sd card, battery etc.). The software differences are mainly aesthetic or versioning. The LG ui is the best balance between bloat versus usefulness I've seen (in addition to all the Nexi, I've owned Sensation/Sense and SGS3/Touchwiz). Many of LG ui features are attainable via other software tweaks and apps and of course the beauty of Android is the ability to customise, including optimising for battery life or gaming performance, or in this case tweaking for smoothness/lag elimination. The lag has easy remedies, the hardware and functional upgrade over the N5 is more apparent than software. If you're a flash freak stick with the dev hotbed of Nexus by all means. If you want an upgrade to more capabilities, superior hardware exists right now. OP sold himself and the G3 short IMO, but we all need to find the right device for the purpose and justifying a premium price sure aint easy for anyone.[emoji4]

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[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Separating this quote, because despite the past year of hearing/seeing this in the media numerous times, "hardware was plateauing", etc. and seeing particularly Samsung scaling back on it's hardware 'feature-creep', I see the opposite happening and loads of evidence. Sammy also began scaling back Touchwiz (software) and HTC with Sense as well. Sammy went too far from stock, and now they are retracting towards the stock, familiar experience. Google is muscling manufacturers to tone down the software differentiation, by separating out its own feature apps (Now, Camera,etc.) and putting them in Market. G3 is a prime example of heavy and important hardware features that users actually WANT (no fingerprint ID bs) that differentiate it from its peers. I think the market was sending the 'overbloat' hardware signal last year, but this year its the opposite..we want better design, better build quality, and new and USEFUL features that we'll use every day...a better Swiss Army Knife in our pockets. The other signal sent was the possibility the Nexus program is stalled or dying. While all of us feel this would be a mistake for Google, and that there is a perfect (but small) market for a high performance, low-feature and low cost platform to showcase and spur further software development. Nexus certainly fills that niche well, and should remain until Google feels it's no longer necessary. While that would be a sad day, high quality fully featured phones should be within grasp for more reasonable, Nexus-like prices when it happens..Oppo, Xioami and other players will affect this market positively by that time.
[Nexus 5 General] OzmodRom:
fully agree
[Nexus 5 General] detroitguy1:
After 5 weeks with the LG G3, I'm back on a Nexus 5.

G3 cons: not as smooth as N5, takes FOREVER to charge, battery drains faster, sharpening looks terrible (but becomes much less noticeable after awhile), will never have the development of the N5

N5 come: smaller screen, inferior camera to the G3.

I will be sticking with the N5 for awhile. Because of battery life's issues, I really hope the next Nexus has a 1080 instead of a 2k screen.
[Nexus 5 General] kingston73:
Exactly my reasons, only I couldn't stand it for more than a day. I'm not sold on more than 1080p screens! side by side there's barely a difference and like you said in some circumstances the g3 is actually worse. I'll take mediocre camera and smoothness and development over anything the g3 has to offer.
[Nexus 5 General] Proud2banoob:
Out of curiosity, about how long does your battery last? I just got a used N5 and the battery only lasts a day. I have to charge it every day. I'm not a super heavy user. The phone is stock. Any ideas how i could get more time out of a charge? I've made all the common changes to the setup. Thanks.

Daniel Allen

Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G "The OG"

Samsung Galaxy S

Google Nexus One

Samsung Galaxy Light

Google Nexus 5 "The New Kid"
[Nexus 5 General] doctor_droid:
Single day is all what i get...:p

Standby time is awesome but screen on time is okay okay...i get around 5hrs sot
[Nexus 5 General] 350Rocket:
I've used several launchers on my nexus and they all felt basically the same with no lag at all. That makes me not convinced by the ones saying it's the launcher.

All the videos show home screen lag and opening apps etc. The few that says it's not there are in denial

I could see it maybe handling a load of stuff all running at once better with the extra ram. But the home screen lag would still annoy me.

It's like starting with a phone that is just borderline fast enough new (like my HTC desire was 4 years ago) a couple years later with newer versions of android and newer versions of apps it's going to be bogged down. That's my opinion. If you own one and like it you're going to disagree and you won't care cause when it slows down in a year you'll just upgrade to something new.
[Nexus 5 General] SilkyJohnson:
Unfortunately, nowadays - you don't get that much time to make an impression.

Go take a look at the dev sections for AT&T. It's a ghost town. If LG figures out some software tweaks to reduce the horrible lags, most people will have already moved on to the newest offerings. A dev isn't going to go buy a G3 in 6 months if they unlock the bootloader. Sammy just crushed the G3's trump card (screen) and then some with the N4. Moto just came out swinging and will hopefully deliver a knockout blow with the Nexus X(6).

Maybe next year, LG.
[Nexus 5 General] 350Rocket:
Right now moto x would be my top pick out of what's coming out soon. There are more happy customers with the original moto x than any other phone as far as I can tell.

I love my nexus 5 but not everyone loves it as much and while world's ahead of what I've had in the past and blazingly fast it has a few flaws. Hopefully the new moto x is as great as the last one.
[Nexus 5 General] Proud2banoob:
I guess I'm seeing typical sot, then. After reading about the g3 comparison, I'm wondering how much up time they get.

Daniel Allen

Samsung Galaxy Exhibit 4G "The OG"

Samsung Galaxy S

Google Nexus One

Samsung Galaxy Light

Google Nexus 5 "The New Kid"
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
Varies greatly with usage and services, as with any phone. Tests show it gets significantly less battery all together than the G2 it's replacing, and the N5 lasts longer during WiFi web browsing but sees significantly less LTE web browsing.
[Nexus 5 General] butthurtlocker:
Heres a blurb of both the G3 and Nexus 5 if youre undecided

I currenty have the G3 so can give on the fencers some thorough, unbiased advice.

I kept The N5 incase I didnt fall for the G3, and guess what, Im really glad I did. Its a big phone. I mean BIG. Like the bezels are wonderfully trim but theres no getting around that its a 5.5" phone, so be prepared to jump from a slick smartphone to a full out "phablet" or whatever dumb term its called by reviewers

The other major point is the speed. Like many people have noted, the speed is fast, its great but to drop that kind of money on just great? No way, because the N5 is also great. It is in no way noticeably faster (I think i took 3 hours out of a day I had a spat with the GF and did every app launch/web browse test in the book) and in almost every instance the Nexus 5 was literally tying it or 0.5 sec behind. It was never ahead, but thats to be expected in the least.

With regards to the screen, I am a bad judge of those, they literally all look the same to me after I got the HTC One when it launched. Every 1080p has looked the same and this 2.5K display looks extremely similar, but again I suck at deciphering details in pixels/color/saturation etc. So i hope this helped anyone, im sure some of the info has been repeated but I thought id give my low down being a current owner of both relevant devices
[Nexus 5 General] beaver2233:
yeah had the g3 for a week (got it reasonably cheap, so resold for a profit anyway) - battery life was much better than the n5, but was just too big for me. Also the lag was noticeable, just using the browser, scrolling was laggy compared to the n5
[Nexus 5 General] zakkyzombie:
I switched to Verizon, family included me in the family plan. So I had to see T-Mobile and the n5 vanish. But honestly, if you have a high res wallpaper the screen is bomb. I rooted it after I left the store on the way home with stump app. And after removing as much bloat as possible I hold it equal to the n5, ROM wise. Even though its bootloder is locked, there is a lot of customization built in, and the G3 tweak box is just the cherry ontop. Now the 5 is just to get out my flashing needs.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZPaul2Fresh8:
I've had this problem with my Xperia Z2 since I've owned it. I've had firmware 402 and now 314 and it's still the same.

The problem is that when I'm in a call, the proximity sensor works and turns the screen off but the digitizer does not turn off! So while I'm talking and pressing my face against the phone it detects input and sometimes I even hangup on people.

Anyone else experience this issue or have any suggestions on how to troubleshoot this?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gork1975:
Hi. I had the same problem. So I installed an app called "call screen lock". That solved it for me.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ZPaul2Fresh8:
Thanks but I don't think I should have to download another app to fix a bug.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lywyn:
You can use the work around until it is fixed or suffer the bug. Why not complain to Sony?
[G3 Accessories] overzeetop:
Well, here was my attempt at a car mount for the G3.

Parts list:

Pringles can (it will need to be emptied, feel free to start with a full one and a tall drink)

KoolPad charger (I used this one: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00DQCUVPI/)

Qi back for the Lg G3 (I used this one: http://www.ebay.com/itm/151360455517 but you'll want a new listing)

LG G3 (VS985/Verizon)

12 1/2" diameter x 1/32" magnets (If I did it again, I'd use something more like this:http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00269N68Q/)

Nonskid mat (like this:http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00IH5VVHQ/)

Car mount (I already had this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00I0DL2OC/)

Tools list:

#1 screwdriver

clear packing tape (1/2", 2")

Spooge/guitar pick/old credit card

Razor blade

Scissors

piece of glass (I used a picture in a frame)

As mentioned by posters below, that's an expensive charger - about $60 all in - compared to a similar AirDock for $70-80 with no effort required. The expensive items (KoolPad and long mounting system) I had before starting the project, so were sunk cost. To build a similar version, you could likely order the entire kit from Dx.com for under $30 as follows:

Qi pad for $11 http://www.dx.com/p/qi-x5-mobile-wireless-charger-black-298118

the bigger magnets for $4 http://www.dx.com/p/12-5-x-1-5mm-round-shape-ndfeb-magnet-silver-9-pcs-233616

the sticky pad $3 http://www.dx.com/p/vehicle-car-anti-slip-mat-pad-black-19-x-14cm-161650

Mount for $8 http://www.dx.com/p/lson-028i-adjustable-car-mount-holder-for-cell-phone-black-185931

You still have to buy the Pringles yourself ;)

The only question is whether the Qi case has the same clearance inside the shell. That I can't say, though if the aesthetics weren't a huge deal, you could epoxy the magnets to the exterior of the shell.
[G3 Accessories] overzeetop:
Step 1: disassemble the charger

The charger comes apart with four screws in the pack, hidden under the non-skid pads. I popped them out with the tip of a razor blade and unscrewed... Then a spooger (or other thin, stiff tool like a guitar pick or an old credit/debit card) can be slid around the outside to release the catches.
[G3 Accessories] overzeetop:
Step 2: Install the magnets

Next comes the magnets in the charger cover. I didn't know how much space I'd have, so I got 1/32" thick magnets. I stacked 3 together in four locations, but if I were to do it again I would know that I could have used four 1/16" thick magnets, and they could be a bit larger (3/4" dia vs the 1/2" I used).

to omit the long story about how I got here, just imagine an hour of trial and error (go eat some of those pringles and get another drink)

To get them in the right place without using glue, I copied the area that corresponds to where the battery is in the G3 back to the inside of the Qi charger case in pencil, then laid a length of 2" packing tape (sticky side UP) in the case and traced the corners with a blue marker. The ruler you see is to hold the edge of the tape and keep it from folding up...you'll want one on each side when you get to the next step!

Now put the magnets in the corners of the "box" you traced onto the tape (see the two rulers...yeah, that's the second piece of tape). Maneuvering the tape by the rulers, place the magnets into the cover of the charger (sticky side down now) so that the tape encapsulates the magnets. There are lots of exposed contacts - no sense in shorting everything out on the magnets, as it will be a tight fit.

As you flip the case over to close it, be careful to make sure the LED charging light pipe is still in its slot. Also, hold on tight...the charger coil is slightly magnetic, so adding the magnets will snap this baby shut!
[G3 Accessories] overzeetop:
Step 3: Assemble the charger and apply the sticky stuff

Okay, after you put those screws back in it's time to make the front of the charger sticky. The charger will lift/hold the phone, but the phone back is too slick against the charger and it will slide right off. Note: other chargers normally put the magnets on the outside and then spray them with a rubberized coating. Just for kicks, I did it differently; I may ultimately add a rubber coating to the charger, it depends on how this holds up.

So, you've got that non-skid stuff. Put it onto a glass surface and use a ruler to cut out two 1/2" tall x 3" wide pieces. If you use more than that it will be difficult to extract the phone. Place the strips top and bottom. Note that by doing this, you're letting the case back and charger case deflect between the sticky pieces, getting a little closer. The force is strong enough to hold the phone to the sticky mat and compress it lightly, ensuring it stays in place, even upside down.
[G3 Accessories] overzeetop:
Step 4: Modify the phone back

Next comes the phone side of the equation. There are several ways to get a Qi enabled back plate; I got mine off eBay - ugly Verizon logo and all. Anyway, there is about 0.030" (0.9mm) of clearance between the battery and the back. That's a good place to put a piece of steel, too, since it won't be covering any of the multiple antennas which surround the perimeter of the phone back.

It turns out that a Pringles can bottom is both the correct size, made of magnetic steel, and a good thickness at about 0.3mm. Note that if you can find a 0.5-0.6mm (0.020") thick piece of sheet stock, it will increase the holding power by 50% or so. Above that doesn't help any. You're done with the Pringles by now, right? Okay, then just cut the pringles can bottom with scissors, and be careful of those sharp edges! Tape it into the back, right over where the battery would be.

Note: most sheet metal will have a slight bow - use this to your advantage and flip the steel so that the natural curve matches the curve of the phone back. The closer you can get the steel to the magnets the better.
[G3 Accessories] overzeetop:
Step 5: Test it out (aka, there is no step 5)

Home stretch. Put the phone back together and double check your mounting matches and the alarm in the charger indicates you have power. In my installation, the charger will be upside-down, so the LED will be covered. I decided to keep the alarm so I know that the phone is positioned properly, but if you're not as concerned you can neuter the alarm when you have the charger open (see the Amazon reviews for a how to).

That's all there is to it.

http://youtu.be/REiDGBtzbkE