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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anz563:
Hello everyone ... on my Nexus 5 once again happened some incredible problem with vibration ... Here's the thing: Last night my Nexus just lay on the bed and when I took it, at this point I found the lack of vibration. First, I turned on Vibrate when pressing the navigation keys, and found no vibration. At first I began to sin on the vibrating motor, but I remembered that I was already have this problem a few months ago, in the same way. When I downloaded from the Market program to test the vibration and turned her to work constantly, I found that the vibration motor that works but is very weak, as if barely barely turns .. As if he did not have enough energy. But! Motor is spinning so bad until not "turn off the screen." After blocking in a few seconds the vibration motor is working again as if nothing had happened! As well and clearly. However, once you unlock it as soon as the problem returns, vibration works very poorly. I have tried different programs for vibration control, no result. Found a video on YouTube of the problem, attach below. If the problem is simply to reiterate, I would like to know the cause .. This problem is very infuriated me yesterday, vibration at all almost no and I missed a few calls. I understand the engine is all right and I think that this is some sort of deep software problem...

I have already booked two motors, then try to replace, but not sure it will help .. Phone never fell or dropped, handle carefully. (but the body have a little small scratches :) ) A very long time looking for information on this issue on the internet, but found nothing ..

I dont want to go to the service center, I want to understand itself, with your help, of course ..

Factory reset or Reflashing ROM to any other doesn't help too...

Model - D281 16GB white.

ROM - CM11 Snapshot M9

Kernel - ElementalX 1.04cm

Recovery - TWRP 2.7.1.1

Can not listen to what people say on the video, the main thing to hear the vibration motor.

P.S. Sorry for my bad english, I'm from Russia and I write through Google translator... Hope on your help, guys..
[Nook Color Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sherip:
Some time ago I got Puffin during a B&N giveaway. It wasn't my primary browser but I did use it from time to time. Lately it gets some internal error and doesn't work on my HD+. Anyone else?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] SrchingForSignl:
Has anyone done this yet? Either by using sticky-fied tool or by using a commercial crack? I can't even find someone who will SELL me an unlock... I imagine any normally-locked Hermes would be similar but I don't know enough about the process to know if it's that generic.

Thanks!

/Peter
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] TheCritic:
There's this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=282073

But it sounds like it requires a couple extra steps for us with the 8525.

I've heard Cingular's fully willing to give out unlock codes, but it takes them 10 days or so to process.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
I was inspired by this thread http://xdaforums.com/nexus-4/general/hardmod-nexus-4-investigating-thermal-t2144652 and decided to do some experimenting.

My phone was idling at about 53 degrees with screen on at 50% brightness w/ auto brightness off, ambient temperature of 70 degrees farenheit.

I ran two Antutu benchmarks from idle temperature. Results were 31990 and 31555 and a max temp of 77 degrees.

I then ran two Qualcomm benchmarks with scores of 1860 and 1855 with the temperature topping off at 66 degrees.

I disassembled my phone and removed the main board. I added a small drop of Artic Silver thermal compound to the processor and reassembled.

Results after adding thermal compound. Phone idles about 9 degrees cooler, at about 44 degrees. Max temp while running Antutu benchmark is down to 71 degrees with scores of 35356 and 34856. Results for Qualcomm benchmark after thermal compound, max temp of 60 degrees and scores of 1880 and 1875.

I may clean up this post later with pictures etc but I did this on a whim. This whole process only took about 25 minutes. Phone comes apart extremely easy and with excellent results so far. If you take the plunge and open it up, I noticed that one of the screws at the volume rocker assembly is longer than the other, be careful of this when reinstalling.
[G3 General] ChrisM75:
I was considering doing a similar thing using a thermal pad. I assume the Arctic Silver was applied under the metal shield?
[G3 General] haris182:
Damn,

why I didn't ask for this when my G3 got repaired

:D :D
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
The processor is exposed in the middle of the metal shield, like at 3:18 of this disassembly video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRXzRQ69264

You might be better off using a thermal pad, as there is quite a gap to fill with thermal compound. I think ideally I should use a pad or a copper shim like in the thread I posted in OP.
[G3 General] ChrisM75:
Yes thats the shield I mean. I assume it just pops off, its not soldered to the mainboard? On the G3 the CPU faces away from the LCD so heat transfer to the LCD (as is likely on the N4) isnt a problem for us.

I wonder if a pad under the shield and a pad over the shield would be possible. The buttons are over it, but it might just fit.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
I'm not sure how the shield comes off, I didn't pay much attention to it. I applied compound to the processor without having to remove the shield.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
CPU does indeed face the display as on the N4. I think you're mistaking the NAND for the processor?

When stress testing for 10 minutes the display definitely got quite warm but I don't think I will be pushing it that hard too often.
[G3 General] ChrisM75:
The CPU and RAM and stacked together on the G3 and are underneath a thin metal shield. It has to come off to access the it.

EDIT: ah I see I read the images wrong, the CPU does face the LCD.. Hmm.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
You were probably looking at the same teardown I was. It's confusing the way it's posted on there. I doubt I can damage the display but if I do I guess I'll accept the couple hundred loss for having to tinker with things haha. Temperature as I type this is 42 degrees. Solid ten degrees lower than 'normal'
[G3 General] biustech:
i'm interested in doing this mod. can you share your pictures? because none of the teardown show the processor.
[G3 General] xRamz:
How the heck if your phone so cool?

Mine is like 30 degrees Celsius (86F) when just browsing the net, goes up to 40 degrees Celsius (104F) :/
[G3 General] PrimaryComplex:
Do you have an estimate of how much of a "gap" has to be filled? I'm planning to try this with either paste or coollaboratories liquid ultra i still have lying around.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
I didnt take pictures, sorry. The processor is on the back side of the board, facing the display. It's in the middle of a metal housing, you can't miss it. If I teardown again and switch to a thermal pad, which I think is more ideal, I'll be sure to take some.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
Hmm, I'd say about a .1mm gap. I'd really recommend some sort of copper or aluminum shim with compound on both sides of it. Or a thermal pad. Thermal compound isn't meant to fill this kind of gap, although it does work.
[G3 General] biustech:
No problem dude. Thanks for the tips. But do you think this mod can compromise the LCD, somehow more heat will be transfered to the LCD and then could cause some problem...
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
It could cause a lcd issue. I turned off thermal throttling then ran the cpu at max for 10 mins with a stress test. The upper part of the lcd where the processor is does get quite warm. When playing asphalt it gets warm but nothing crazy. My opinion is it will be fine, but use this mod at your own risk of course.
[G3 General] PrimaryComplex:
I am finally now in possession of a 15x15x0.3mm copper shim. I'll try this tomorrow and give you guys an update.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
Nice. Let us know how it goes
[G3 General] PrimaryComplex:
Finally done with the mod. After checking taking the phone apart i feel the best option to go is a 0.5mm thermal pad/copper shim. The added thickness should put a little more pressure on the SoC for better heat transfer.

Can report the same 9C difference on idle from 54 to 52.

Antutu scores:

Before: 31438

After: 36099

Load temp max from 73 to 64.

Strangely everything feels smoother but could just be bias on my end.
[G3 General] bobbarker2:
Can you link to the exact materials you used? The thermal pad/paste. Thanks.
[G3 General] redmi_3g:
For lg v20..need to remove that 2 soft metal strip at processor plate heatsink..no need copper shrimp nor thermal pad..dont waste money..just use good thermal paste and spread all over the plate heatsink..and done!

Previous my lgv20 idle trmp 45 max at 85

And now idle at 39 max at 68

All smooth as butter now

And put good thermal pad at back processor..that metal plate..some heat can go through that fingerprint plate
[G3 General] biustech:
Do you have pics? And how is the sensation at the screen area just above the processor? is it warmer? or you can't feel any difference?
[G3 General] PrimaryComplex:
I used a 15x15x0.5mm Copper shim. Thermal pads may be better as they give a cushioning effect compared to the shim. I used prolimatech PK-3 for the SoC-Shim side and CLU on the Shim-Plate side. Of course that isn't necessary you can just use any paste available.

PK-3

CLU

Copper Shim

Couldn't take pics as i didn't have any other cam to take pics with. No difference as my phone was already getting warm anyway, well a difference is that the heat seems a bit more spread out now. I used to feel it concentrated on the top portion where the chip is but now its just a general warmth on the entire top half.
[G3 General] biustech:
Awesome! I will try to find the copper and i will definitely do this! If i do i will take some pics and post them here
[G3 General] john0699:
Hello, can i also take a liquid matal pad?

Gesendet von meinem LG-D855 mit Tapatalk
[G3 General] Skizzy034:
How difficult was the phone to take apart? iFixit rated it pretty low I think.

Sent from my LG-D851
[G3 General] ISilva_PT:
Its actually very easy. Ifixit has yet to rate it, but others have and it is one of the easiest around :good:

http://www.ubreakifix.com/blog/lg-g3-teardown/ (8/10 score)
[G3 General] liamR:
Maybe there's a reason why LG didn't put a thermal pad on the cpu (besides saving a few $$$). I'm not sure that this mod is a safe mod.
[G3 General] PrimaryComplex:
The metal plate was never designed to be heat sink in the first place. This isn't something recommended unless you understand the impact of what you're doing. The mod runs the risk or burning your screen.
[G3 General] p2im0:
Have you noticed any issues with the screen after a week plus with the mod?

I just modded mine tonight with the same setup you used and I do notice that the screen gets noticably hotter than before. Although I notice a reduction in thermal throttling in games, CPU temps hover at around 60C now instead of 70-75C when playing games which would throttle down to 1100mhz.

I'll post pics later.
[G3 General] hashcheck:
Love too see some pics. I think LG designed the thermals for this phone quite badly... Any negative effects so far?
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
Upper half of screen gets warmer than usual as expected but no problems so far. No pics either though, sorry. If I teardown my girlfriends g3 I will be sure to take some. There are some good teardown instructionals on youtube if that helps.
[G3 General] hashcheck:
Thanks hoping to cool mine somewhat as when moving large files over my network to and from phone. Its hitting 89c
[G3 General] loadedscissors:
To all those who have had the mod for a few months, could you comment on how your phones are running now ? I'm quite tempted but I just want to make sure you haven't experienced any adverse effects a few months on, and that you're definitely noticing a benefit.

Thanks
[G3 General] Racer-1:
My G3 16GB runs about 3 months with a Phobya thermalpad on the SoC. No problems so far.
[G3 General] loadedscissors:
Thanks Racer, but how does it affect temperatures? I'm curious if the battery gets hotter faster, as that seems to lead to much more significant throttling than a hot cpu.

If you have time, please could you run the classic test on the app "StabilityTest (ROOT optional)". To control all variables, could you set airplane mode to on, with the screen on full brightness.

How quickly does your battery go from normal (~30°C) to high temperature (~40°C)?

My throttling doesn't kick in until 75°C using a software mod which may affect results.

My battery gets to 40°C after 4 mins 55 seconds and my CPU is at about 81° just before hitting that battery temperature, and then jumps down to 76° when throttling due to a high temperature battery kicks in.

Stability test app link:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.into.stability&hl=en
[G3 General] Racer-1:
I have the 80"C CTT thermal mod installed. My battery temp goes to 41 degrees after 2 minutes, but cpu does not throttle that much. Sometimes to 2,1 Ghz or 2,3 GHz. But I'm not sure whether 41 degress are right. The device is not really hot. I have to check it again.

I can't read the CPU temp, because that's not supportet in this kernel.
[G3 General] loadedscissors:
Thanks for your input Racer, much appreciated.

So I guess the associated increase in battery temp may be a factor in LG's decision not to thermally tie the CPU to the phone chassis. Obviously this is a pretty small sample size to say that this is categorically true though. It's a shame that there is no simple way like this to cool the battery.
[G3 General] Racer-1:
Maybe, but the SoC is facing to front / the display side. So I think it won't affect the battery temp in this short time of 2 minutes.
[G3 General] loadedscissors:
Ok, sure. Though if we have a very hot cpu in contact with the thermally conductive chassis, the chassis temperature will rise very quickly. It doesn't seem too crazy to suggest the the battery, which is surrounded on one side by the now warmer chassis, would raise to 40 degrees faster. What do you think?
[G3 General] Racer-1:
Maybe you are right. But not in my stresstest within 2 minutes.

In longer stresstest it may affect the battery a little more.

Snapdragons aren't easy to cool. I heard the also have problems with the cooling of the new SDR 810.
[G3 General] AcidKiller:
Thanks for the guide

Hi

I did this modification to my g3 and the throttling on the device seems a lot more relaxed now than it was before.

I went from 45 degree Celsius Idle to 37., the CPU under load doesn't become as hot as before. Funny that my DRAM is Samsung :P

I used leftover thermal pads from my EK waterblocks.

Thank you and I will report if I receive issues.
[G3 General] Racer-1:
I' ve checked it again. The material underneath the mainboard is not metal. I think it's plastic.

And I tested two 0.5mm thermal pads stacked and the Wi-Fi speeds were horrible. 0.5 mm seems to be perfect to fit the gap.

But graphics results in AnTuTu aren't that high like on the HTC One M8 even with the pad. The SoC throttles too fast.
[G3 General] AcidKiller:
I just checked also, I have a previous screen(cracked) from my wifes g3 that was replaced and if i scratch the stuff with a philips underneath the Main PCB it gives of shiny scratches indicating that it is a metal composite.

It is also conductive.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
That's not the screen, it's the mid-frame
[G3 General] AcidKiller:
Well its the component ACQ87190301 and its the back of the screen and it comes as a whole when ordering of LG's GSFS system with the midframe attached. My bad for mis naming it as the back of the screen since its attached to it...
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
Didn't mean for that to come across crotchety. Everything has been good for me, I'm the OP. Kinda forgot I even did this mod haha
[G3 General] AcidKiller:
haha, just trying to state that it was a composite anyway ;D

In any case when you downscale the resolution to the same as the HTC One M8 1920x1080 it runs about the same with the thermalpad mod. I got 44339 prior to the mod at 1920x1080.
[G3 General] Racer-1:
Wow, great score. In my last run I got about 45500 with 2,77 ghz on the cpu and 657 mhz on the gpu.

The best score was about 46200 points.

But why is the score lower with 1440p? That's not a real comparison in Antutu.
[G3 General] trifos:
LG G3 F400K I used a 15x15x0.5mm Copper shim and Thermal pads.
[G3 General] :
3d is MUCH slower on 1440p. Not enough rasterisation units, i guess...
[G3 General] akaHardison:
Making this will heat your LCD which may cause black spot on your LCD.Why not just fill the emmc side so the heat can go to back side.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
This modification mates the processor with the mid-frame, not the display. Heat is distributed to the metal frame before it reaches the display. No adverse effects so far.
[G3 General] akaHardison:
mid frame is stick with display.And heat won't be distributed so fast.So your display still get hot.
[G3 General] hawkswind1:
Correct, display will get warm too. That's what happens you direct heat towards it from a processor. As I said, 6 months of heavy use, no problems, nor any reports of problems. Heat is already transferred out the back, thats why the power button assembly gets warm.
[G3 General] akaHardison:
Not so fast.It may need about 1 or 2years before it get damage.If your cpu were too hot.You might burn your screen,too.(But anyway,it still good for people who need it.
[G3 General] erbsmokah:
In one or two years most people will already be on another device.. Lol!
[G3 General] akaHardison:
I still remember my htc g14.I made the modification on the suck 8260cpu.Right now the touch screen is dead due to the touch screen plastic dead.I have to change the touch screen.
[G3 General] erbsmokah:
When you modify something you need to be prepared to accept the end result. Maybe in retrospect it was not a good mod for a HTC g14.. What does that have to do with the LG G3 though?
[G3 General] akaHardison:
touch screen still the same technology"capacitor touch screen".Inside the screen still has a plastic flim.
[G3 General] erbsmokah:
Its still not the same hardware at all. The fact that your HTC has issues is irrelevant.

For what its worth my screen used to get hot in one spot before the mod now it gets warm all over..

+1 for the thermal pad
[G3 General] caesar170988:
just finished the mod with copper shim and thermal paste . its a must have , costs next to nothing and is done in 10 minutes . get 45630 in antutu now , got 42300 before .

in stability test takes 3 times longer to throttle and throttles more gently .

im curious if it would benefit to connect the rest of the metal cage from the motherboard to the frame with paste/silicone thermal pad .

its a lot of thermal real estate that is not being used .

i tried this first on my old Optimus 4X HD P880 and it was harder to work on and only fit some paste and stickers but also worth it .

Thermal modding should be a normal thing to do to a phone .
[G3 General] gianrond:
Two years from now, the cpu will break anyway if not hard-modded, as it will get too hot, too often.
[G3 General] Enriquezdelaplaya:
Thermal mod

I made the change heat yesterday and I am very satisfied. I think if you have to choose between a temperature concentrated in a point (in contact with air) and a well-distributed (resting on a plate alloy), it is better to choose the latter. The main reason why LG did not adopt the solution of the pad are the costs of copper (best conductor), a repairability more challenging because of the pasta and most likely a test time too limited ... but the pad and the dough rest are not directly on the display. To say that the display from damage by means not to consider this aspect.

In any case my processor has never exceeded 62 ° Celsius and the battery after 7 minutes of stress has stabilized at 38.8 ° C. The phone apparently warms a bit less, but more evenly. With Lion Rom 2.1 on my d855 (Italy) I reached 42000 on Antutu.

Important: if like me you have to cut out the copper pad from a larger piece, I consider essential to flatten the piece without pleats. I think the pads should not be bigger than the processor, otherwise you may interfere with the signal GSM / wi-fi.

Thank you all for the important contribution of this mod.
[G3 General] pikachukaki:
Can we add THERMAL ADHESIVE TAPE instead of coper??
[G3 General] wpcprez:
anyone know if the internals of a US AT&T D850 is the same dimensions so I can use the same shim?
[G3 General] theoverfiend:
[MENTION=4462941]pikachukaki[/MENTION] Using Thermal Tape is possible why not.

But you have to found one first...

I think the right thickness is the problem. In that YouTube video which shows the thermal paste solution you can see he needs a lot maybe to much paste for filing up the gaap. And that's the point if the thermal pad to thin it don't work as well
[G3 General] pikachukaki:
I saw that too when I open mine... It need alot so the best way is to add copper pad... The gap is big for paste only... Or pad
[G3 General] theoverfiend:
My soulution.. Two Layers of Cooper foil on both sides ( frame and chip) than paste stick all together open again watch the both sides and the paste is complete covering clean up paste again finish... Result after 5 times in a row antutu ...
[G3 General] tidaboy9:
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[G3 General] theoverfiend:
The one i use is 10mm x 0.035mm copper tape self gluing cut to exact length. In real 0,07 mm on each side (because two layers)
[G3 General] tidaboy9:
Finally enjoy using my G3

If anyone is reading this and questioning weather its worth the risk/hassle, I can vouche for it making a huge difference in terms of Lag and overall, less T. T Highly recommend this mod :)
[G3 General] DickyIsBusy:
hi can anyone make a videos becuase i still very blur.
[G3 General] angwar90:
This sounds really good but I think a video tutorial on how to do this would help a lot people who are interested in this. Most people like me never modded anything lol
[G3 General] Ophidian_DarkCore:
Have you tried the video in the OP?
[G3 General] angwar90:
I don't know which video you mean. My point was that a newbie like me needs a step by step video tutorial (what I need to buy etc.) to be 100% confident to try this mod.
[G3 General] Ophidian_DarkCore:
Dude. You need an lg g3. Unscrew the screws that he points out using a mini screw driver.

You need thermal paste http://www.amazon.com/Tuniq-TX-4-Pe...UTF8&qid=1437684382&sr=8-1&keywords=tuniq+tx4 and a 15 x 15 x 0.5mm copper shim http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...ue&ref_=ox_sc_act_title_1&smid=A1THAZDOWP300U

Not that hard buddy, use your head ;)
[G3 General] angwar90:
Maybe you should start using your head properly and don't assume that everybody is willing to wipe his warranty cause some random guy say's "not that hard buddy"
[G3 General] Ophidian_DarkCore:
You said you wanted a step by step. Never once were we talking about warranties. Wtf are you on about now?

and for reference, coffee filters and 90% rubbing alcohol will get rid of any paste if you ever need to send it in for warranty ;)

EDIT: Also, I apologize for my first comment. This was a completely different thread than what I thought. here ya goes bruh http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/thermal-paste-to-cooling-g3-t3130752
[G3 General] angwar90:
My initial post was a suggestion that most people ,including me, would prefer a video tutorial. I have never asked for step by step written tutorial or photos.
[G3 General] Ophidian_DarkCore:
Did you get the video in that link? It does a decent job, just use less paste then him.
[G3 General] liamR:
Will 15x15x0.5mm thermal pad be enough or I'll need something more for this mod?

Thanks
[G3 General] biustech:
i think 0,5 mm

i bought a 2mm for other projects and tried to split in half and even so it was to big couldn't put the logic board back
[G3 General] alekos panagulis:
I used a 0.5mm thermal pad and a little drop of MX4, but nothing changed.

My phone still run damn hot and the Antutu bench is only 26000.

If i disable thermal protection in hidden menu, the score rises up to 37000 and temperature over 90°.

What's wrong?

Thanks