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[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
I changed my original post. I think you missed it. Yes I am getting same thing in stock browser. This does not occur using Dolphin. Not a Tab S issue. A stock browser issue. The dark background of your website makes it more noticeable.

Update. Does it in Chrome browser too. If that bothers you try Dolphin browser.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pibach:
I got the same white tail issue also in chrome browser.

Dolphin doesn't do that, gives a bit better re-rendering. But Dolphin mini also struggles. Weird.

Both are slightly more sluggish in scrolling, that's most important, so I sorted them out.

Also that nonsens gesture implementation (requires to press a button first) did not win me.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
There is one thing the stock browser by far does the best of any browser I have tried. Play embedded video clips. Dolphin? You may as well not bother. Expect 10+ second load times. Using a little firewall hack I'm getting almost instant video loads in stock with no buffering lag.

The little white flash when closing the keyboard is a non issue for me, especially when using a website with a white background. Don't even notice it.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Enddo:
maybe try to debloat the ROM and then go into developer options to change the animations to .5 or disable them entire(I disable them in all android devices I own)
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Well I don't know what happen, I did some factory reset like 3 in a row, then the first thing I did was, go straight to update chrome to 36.0.1985.131 and now it's working at it should. Yeah with some occasional stutter, mostly when launching an app. But not like was doing it before. The white tale is still there but not as heavy like it was before.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NixxonExxo:
My friend you didn't need to uploads videos to explain yourself. I know how you feel. I came from the apple iPad air before this piece of junk samsung tablet. It's not running any faster or smoother them the iPad and to make matters worst it's filled with bloatwares. Unless you are using it mainly for video playback, you should get your money back and get the iPad air or wait for the new iPad in September. Personally the only reason why I'm keeping it is i don't own a TV and i love catching up with TV series through streaming services. The amoled screen is by far more appealing for my main purpose. Other then that i hate browsing the Internet, listening to music and playing games on this tablet and i would never recommend it to any of my friends. Samsung should have stick to stock android firmware and optimizing the software to work hand in hand with their hardware.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Well i wouldn't say piece of junk, because the hardware there it's, however now that finally I'm able to "enjoy" it, and starting to install all my apps, i'm finding the lack of proper apps for a tablet with this kind of resolution/screen size. Some of them are only blown up phone apps. Example, I use facebook page manager a lot in combo with facebok and its very dissaponting, also just can't make my primary email accounts at yahoo servers to get pushed like it's on my ipad, neither the yahoo native app, and as I said before, this tablet was purchased with the intentions of replacing my primary tablet which it is/was the ipad 2.. I will keep it 15 days more and see what are my final conclusion, because i don't want to give up the micro sd slot, multi window, and the great screen. But guess I should do what it really works for me at the end.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NixxonExxo:
Oh yeah that's the other downside to the tablet is the apps. Terrible selections and poorly developed apps. Coming from the apple iPad i still have buyers remorse with this samsung tablet. Personally i would prefer internal built in flash drive over micro sd. I think apple is right on not adopting the micro sd technology and Google is realizing the technology should be put away like the dinosaur ages years ago. No matter how much money you can buy with micro sd, your data will eventually get corrupted over times, and not to mention it is still unsecured.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Lol seriously? My 8.4 is a pure joy to use. Super smooth, zero lag and amazing screen. If you look at retail website reviews you'll see that 99% of users share my positive experience. I had an iPad. This blows it away no contest.

Use a launcher like Nova and a browser like Maxthon (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mx.browser) and you should be thrilled.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Does your 8.4 has the exynos or snapdragon ?

And just to put things on perspective, I'm not an Android or Apple fan boy but I do like to have enjoyable experience on my stuff or maybe i'm a bit more picky than some people. However my Galaxy S4 (i337m) running this Phoenix rom is smooth as butter on a fry pan, my sero 7 pro which a cheaper tablet from 2012 that rivals the Nexus 7 and I have it running Dopa 2.1 (4.4.4) it provide me an enjoyable experience. But this Tab S is not were near to make it enjoyable 100%, maybe the 8.4 is bit better on this, but at least my 10.5 is not what I was expecting, my S4 is running way better than the Tab S :( probably because the S4 is a snapdragon and this one is exynos. Also I had a Dell Venue 8 for a couple of months and I didn't had any performance complaints sure it had some other issues but not on the performance department. Trust me I'm trying very hard to enjoy the Tab S because if I return it will cost me 15% restocking fee.

Maybe on the gaming area this is a beast without problems (haven't tried yet), but I don't use my tablets for gaming I use them to browse,read,emails,watch movies, edit documents. And except for watching movies @ 1080P or up , this tablet is not making me feel like it was worth it, the inconsistent performance is the major problem,, sometimes very smooth, sometimes very laggy, sometimes with some jerkiness like if the demanding action was to heavy for the device, all of this is killing me.

If you are saying that your device is not having this problems, maybe mine is defective or something. Would love to see a video of a Tab S and that smoothness that some say it has.

Cheers !!
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
I own a 10.5 and an 8.4. Gave one to my GF. Both are awesome.

Try maxthon browser https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mx.browser
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Maxthon isn't any better see this video http://youtu.be/YX7Jj1bW-Hg while at the moment of recording is responding very fast opening as it should be, the stuttering/jerkiness or lag (i don't know what it is) is still there while browsing. If that kind of responsiveness was present all the time (less the text jumping while browsing) I would be very happy.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heyjoe66:
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[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Dude I watched your video. I see zero lag there when scrolling???
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] remydegreat:
You are the only person ive ever heard complaining about micro sd port,every review on any tablet or phone online

Always considers a micro sd port a excellent featurebfor any device,thats one on the main reasonsbi didnt buy ipad air,the price is crazy to adf storage,apple are just robbing there customers by not adding sd card slot,this tablet is not perfect,but ur over reacting,but ur micro sd card rant has no basis,no sd card on ipad is one of its downfalls
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Well then it's not noticeable for you and that's why you don't see on your tablets. But it's there. And now that I made a little more research I found that some reviews also says exactly what i'm experiencing.

Source: http://www.technobuffalo.com/reviews/galaxy-tab-s-review-best-samsung-tablet-ever-seen/

source: http://mashable.com/2014/06/24/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-review/

source: http://www.cnet.com/products/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5-inch/

source: http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/tablets/samsung-galaxy-tab-s-10-5

source: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...eview-the-best-tablets-you-can-buy-right-now/

And watch this youtube http://youtu.be/VHDKXaIAf8E starting at 8m 50sec.

There is lag but maybe not noticeable to most people and that's probably why you are not seen it. And as like the girl says coming from a speedy device the lag is a lot more apparent.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Don't know what to tell you. This Tab S is smoother scrolling than my i5 laptop. Maxthon scrolling is flawless. Of course I'm running debloated with Nova Launcher as well. Seems the stuff that really bugs you I don't even notice.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NixxonExxo:
Looking at the reviews even tech geeks don't even know where the lag problem lies. Some are blaming the exynos processor, some are blaming touch wiz, some are saying it's the bloatwares and some are saying it's samsung apps that are hogging powers in the background. Well whatever it is, it's 2014 and this kind of lag and stuttering is not acceptable. How does samsung expect to compete with apple with a unwell thought out product before releasing it. For a company this size i expect samsung to have a fix within a month or it will be back to apple in September.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
That's the problem, that not everyone see it. And I really hope that someone that had notice/experienced the same problems, can say yeah was having those performance issues, but once rooted and debloated everything is at it should, idk, maybe some edits to build.prop would help, but as I said before I don't want to trip knox, because if it's still the same after all that then I would not be able tu return it in case at the end I decide not to keep it.

Well I don't know how long you have been an Android user, but I'm using android since eclair/frodo and yeah those were slow but I haven't had never before any android device with this inconsistent performance problems.

And I'm forgiven about the lack of proper apps for this size of display, most of them look weird, so just my only complaint is the damn performance.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
You must forgive mitchellvii. Even on his own video there is lag that can be seen but he doesn't see it at all. And he will fight you to the death if you claim otherwise. Don't bother. :D
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Which video ? I would love to see how his tab s doesn't have lag..

EDIT: I saw his video... But mitchelvii your browsing test is not usefull at all.. I don't know anyone who browse/read a webpage at that speed. And cutting between the opening/switch apps it's actually not usefull at all.. The whole experience of using a tablet is actually using it like it's supposed to be used.

As I have been saying the performance is not consistent at all. Why you don't do a 5 min video opening/switch apps, browsing,typing, exactly as the tablet it must be used. Not just scrolling like you did.

I hope my tripod is back tomorrow and I will do a video too.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
There is no lag in my video. Zero. None.

Sent from my SM-T700
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
Best of luck to you trying to convince him otherwise. His reality distortion field is strong.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
I am completely and utterly satisfied with the performance of this tablet in every way. If you see lag and it bothers you, return the tablet. There is no right or wrong here. Your perception is your reality.

A 5 minute video? Lol are you kidding? I know I'm satisfied with this tablet. By the way, looked at an iPad Air tonight. Screen was crap compared to the Tab S. Black text looked gray. Never going back to LCD.

Sent from my SM-T700
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Lol.... Well actually i'm not trying to convince him or anyone else. I just want to see if if what i see is only on mine, but I doubt, because as some reviewers point is the same I notice. :/

Yeah you must be satisfied and is ok, I actually want to make this tablet work. But I haven't see any proof that is butter smooth like you say your is :( I want to see if there is something I can do with it. So please show me a video of the smoothness you are talking about on how this tablet is once rooted and debloated.

Then you have never owned a Galaxy S"X" phone right? If so, you already had known that super amoled has deeper blacks than an IPS LCD of course with its downfalls on the whites, so not to be a prick, but here we are not talking about screen quality. It's about consistent performance.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
CyberManiaK, like I said, don't bother. :D

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No, it's not only yours. But as you can see, our comments do not belong to his reality and reported by him.

He's just a shrill.....don't waste your time. He can't see the subpar performance we observe, gosh is he stubborn. :D
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Well actually i think you are right, the only one that has posted on this thread claiming that it doesn't notice this performance issues is him, because everyone else is suffering not the performance claimed, I'm wondering if he only do it to convince himself..
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
Welcome to the party of the sane. :D

Either that or we ALL have faulty tablets except him.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
LOL...... And you think this issue could be because is using the exynos ? TBH this is my first exynos device.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
You know there was a poll thread a while back that asked this very question. Was there unacceptable lag on the Tab S? 66% out of 20 respondents claimed THEY HAD NO PROBLEM WITH LAG AT ALL. Go to any retailer website and read the reviews. 95% will give 5 stars praising the speed and power of the Tab S while a tiny minority complains of lag.

Even professional reviewers who mentioned lag said it was only occasional and usually related to scrolling between Touchwiz homescreens.

You can cherry pick any negative comments from the web which support your viewpoint you like but one fact is undeniable, the VAST majority of Tab S owners are not experiencing unacceptable lag and stuttering. Its just math dude. If lag is a big problem, how is the Tab S getting 95% 5 star reviews on Bestbuy and Amazon? I'm not saying you don't perceive lag, I'm saying yours is the minority view and its not even close.

Speaking of math the one thing that doesn't add up in this is why you still own a tablet you do nothing but complain about?

P.S. One thing you must remember about forums such as these. They tend to attract users experiencing problems who are looking for solutions. That means you are going to have a higher percentage of complainers here than in the general public. That's why that 66% satisfied number is key. Despite drawing complainers this forum STILL had a large majority of satisfied customers. As you can see from Bestbuy and Amazon the real numbers of happy owners are far higher.

You think that everyone agrees with you when in fact only a very vocal minority does.

Sent from my SM-T700
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
Could be either that or Touchwiz. Or both. Going by how the Exynos runs Cyanogenmod, most probably Touchwiz.

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Hehe...looks like you riled up the hornet's nest, CyberManiaK.

He won't rest, and absolutely WILL NOT STOP. :)
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Point out which part of my preceding comment was incorrect?

Its like the old story about Obama getting elected. A guy is sitting in the bar on election night and can't believe Obama won. He turns to another guy and says, *How did Obama win? I don't KNOW anybody who voted for him!". And of course the moral of the story is we tend to hang out with people who agree with us and thus make the mistake of thinking EVERYONE agrees with us.

P.S. CNET just ranked the Tab S as the #1 tablet available today and 5th device of any kind overall out of 100.

Sent from my SM-T700

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You are aware only a few people have posted in this thread and that a thread of this nature will tend to draw disgruntled users, right? Regardless there have been users in this thread who agree performance (once you dump the touchwiz homescreen) is exceptional.

ShadowFlare said:

I'm not saying your opinion is wrong, its just statistically uncommon.

Sent from my SM-T700
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
if 66% of 20 where not noticing the lag is fine, but there is a 44% that they did. So the ABSENCE of lag that you are claiming is far than truth.

And you know of that 95% how many came from high end devices? To be able to notice lag

None of the reviewers use other launchers, because that is not what manufacturer wants, most reviewers only have the devices a couple of days.

Exactly those majority don't even notice it because probably they are not used to use speedy devices. The same will happen if I give the tablet to my mom, dad, or other of my relatives. I doubt they will notice, until I point them to where are the lags, sitting right to them.

Because I want to know if somebody has found a fix !! if that is my only complain it's obviously that all the other features are good for me... common sense, Dude. Don't you think so.... !!

Well I have 3 weeks to see if someone find the culprit (and obviously notice it), and cook a rom without the issues. I have high hopes that some recognized developers jump on this tablets, but due to the nature of exynos I guess it won't get much love like the snapdragon variants.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Let me bottom line this. Samsung designs these tabs for average consumers. Average consumers don't perceive lag. Mission accomplished.

Speaking of Rom's, ThunderRom800 by Shaheer is very solid and quick on the 800. You should try it. :)
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
I guess we need a section on XDADEVELOPERS where forums are specifically for devices MADE for the non-average consumers where consumers like mitchellvii won't pour scorn on the freaks like us. :(
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qcjulle:
I have both the Tab Pro 8.4 with Snapdragon and Tab S 8.4 with Exynos. I tried the Pro 8.4 with stock ROM briefly before installing Cyanogenmod and yes, there was clearly visible lag and stuttering as with every Touchwiz device I have ever used. After installing Cyanogenmod the Pro 8.4 FLIES like it is supposed to. No lag anywhere and it seems even smoother than my Nexus 4. What the Tab S has going for it against the Pro 8.4 is the incredible AMOLED display, but until we get a working AOSP/CM based ROM on it the software is nowhere near flagship quality.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Interesting, in stock way in your opinion which is/was laggier the Pro or your new S ?

BTW: [MENTION=2735188]mitchellvii[/MENTION] here are some videos.., Really I can't believe that nobody see this kind of stuttering/jerkiness or don't know how to called English is not my main language. But on this videos is very apparent, the texts and image jumps, like if it's loosing frames or something.

On this one you can see the text on top the video how it jerks a lot when is on the top or bottom of the screen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=chlvxcnI3Yw

here is a bit closer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vmbeZmMv3M and you can see how it jumps.

On this one the same problem, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6Vi_DfT_l0 see the edge of the video that is embedded, however i found something interesting here. when it's scrolling it is seems to wrap (or bend?) on the corners, if i'm scrolling up, the wrap is on the left of the image and when going down is on the right side. This is very apparent because the contrast of the edge with the white background. And of course it stutters when reaching the top or the bottom.

Here is a bit closer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UKgzTX-Lh4

And finally i tested side by side with my sero 7 pro. http://youtu.be/Ic9FFdkn8u0

Just in case no one knows the sero specs. it has a tegra 3 clocked at 1.3ghz with 1gb of ram.

And is Scrolling WAY better than the Tab S ..

So really I can't understand how this isn't noticeable to you and all that claim that is like butter..

Just making this tests i had to take a pair advil's and i'm not joking :eek: !!
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qcjulle:
Well the Pro was just factory reset when I took it into use but based on my very short testing it may have been a bit more smooth than the S. But honestly if there was a difference it wasn't very clear. I gave the Pro to my gf and when I would just want to surf around the web that's the tablet I would choose in a heartbeat. However I'm a big TV/movie/Netflix junkie and for that the S just destroys the Pro with it's superior contrast.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Thanks dude, uhmm I browse more than watching movies, just when I take a flight and sometimes at bed, instead of the tv.

I would love put my hands on a Pro and see how i "feel it" but it's out of stock on all stores nearby.

So eventually on your S you see some lag? Could you please let us know if when you flash any other rom you see an improvement? Of course if you have plans to flash it lol
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] qcjulle:
Yes I see definite lag just as in all the Touchwiz devices I have owned (Galaxy Ace 2, Galaxy Tab 7.7, Some Galaxy Core phone I have from work). The Samsung Android 2.3, 4.1 and 4.4 devices all stutter regardless of the hardware. Compared to the Nexus/CM devices I have used the difference is obvious. Unfortunately for now there really isn't much to flash the S to. Don't want to void my warranty for just some deodexed stock ROM just yet, I'm hoping for some breakthrough on the AOSP/CM from. Plus I have the LTE version so it might see even less ROM development.

I'm typing this on a Surface 2 tablet, my phone is a Nexus 4 and I previously had an Ipad Mini Retina so I think I can make a fair assessment. The Samsung devices stutter the most when at stock.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mitchellvii:
Interesting take. I think you need to buy from someone other than Samsung if you want to please the enthusiast lag everywhere crowd. Samsung makes consumer tablets with the emphasis on eye candy. Their customers don't obsess about the slightest stutter. Probably why they are #1. The enthusiast marketplace is and always has been economically tiny.

kenkiller, I'm not out to get you. I simply state my observations and you interpret them as you see fit. You are bothered by lag on this device. I'm not. Few are. And that's OK. If you see lag then for you it is a problem.

Where you go wrong is by insinuating that someone who does not perceive the lag you do is somehow in denial and hopeless fanboydom.

P.S., Never called you a freak or any other name for that matter. Speak for yourself.

BTW I have no idea why anyone would run the stock launcher when so many superior and free launchers are available. If you are running the stock launcher and experiencing lag you have no one to blame but yourself.

Sent from my SM-T700
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
You don't want to "get" me? Oooh...I'm so scared.

I understand. You can't see lag, so it must not exist. Well done....