yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
AFAIK you can always flash older ROMS even if you are on Android 5. Just flash and factory reset through recovery. flash ANE2 and you are good to go.

But you cannot flash 4.4.2 kernel on Android 5 due to rom changes.
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
One user here bought his S5 in Jan with LP preloaded. He was able to flash any KK ROM that was not towelroot'able, but when he tried to flash a towelroot'able kernel, the system will not boot. Someone else heard about similar things. Unfortunately we do not have any confirmation yet.
[Galaxy S 5 General] autotech40:
I read page one and it is about root stock rom before 5.0. My question was clearly anout rooting without tripping knox after 5.0 update. Which i guess is not possible yet. Dont know why you want to be antagonistic. But thanks to the others that replied and cleared it up.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tomi555:
I bought a S5 with preloaded LP a week ago, phone was manufactured in February. I will try to downgrade and towelroot, then I can report. But first I need to be sure how exactly to do it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sipuni:
How do I root my Lava Iris 405 + Android 4.4.2

KitKat?
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
Could you start running phone info app from play store and report versions?

Sent by my NeatROM'd SM-G900F, aka Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
With respect.....how the hell would we know......apart from the fact that I've NEVER even heard of that phone, this forum is for the SAMSUNG GALAXY S5.....

Sent from my rooted kn0x0 SM-G900F S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] tomi555:
Sure

SM-G900F

klte

kltexx

Manufacturing date: 2015.02.06

CSC: DBT

Product code: SM-G900FZKADBT

Bootloader,baseband: G900FXXU1BOB7

Kernel: 3.4.0-4209230, dpi@SWDD6015 #1

OS INFO

Changelist: 4209230

Build Number: LRX21T.G900FXXU1BOB7

Build description: kltexx-user 5.0 LRX21T G900FXXU1BOB7 -release keys

Build date: Fri Feb 13, 13:39:10 KST 2015

HARDWARE:

Hardware / Board

qcom / MSM8974

Platform / Chip

msm8974 / MSM8974PRO

Hardware Revision:

MP 1.100
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
Hmm I would have expected a different hw revision. No difference from mine. Try to downgrade to towelroot'able so and let's see.

Sent by my NeatROM'd SM-G900F, aka Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] tomi555:
I will try with this one: G900FXXU1ANE2_G900FDBT1ANE2_G900FXXU1ANE2_HOME.tar.md5

using this guide:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/489071-tutorial-downgrade-samsung-galaxy-s5-5-0-4-4-kitkat.html#post4217108

after that i will try to towelroot
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Alternatively you can use the downgrade instructing i have now added to the first post
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
The important thing is that you try to flash that image. The user before you reported that such kind of image would flash but not boot up. Latest kk roms with fixed towelroot flash and boot ok. If your phone will not boot, power off, power on in download mode and flash another Rom.

Sent by my NeatROM'd SM-G900F, aka Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] tomi555:
Just a quick report, later I will write all the steps.

I have managed to install the mentioned kk rom, towelroot and later flash alexandr's 5.0, phone is now rooted and KNOX is 0x0.
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
Good! So the user that did not manage to do that has different problem. Definitely you solved a question here: s5 with original lollipop Rom can be flashed with towelroot'able roms.

Sent by my NeatROM'd SM-G900F, aka Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] heparti:
It's a very good thing if anybody can do all the steps ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] tomi555:
So I did it like this,there must be more elegant way but this worked (at least for me, it may not work for you)

0. Went to sammobile.com and found ANE2 ROM for my phone (g900f) and country code (DBT). On PC installed Samsung USB drivers and Odin. Also downloaded towelroot apk from his website.

1. In download mode, flashed ANE2 via PC Odin

2. after reboot,put towelroot apk from computer to internal SD card, installed and used towelroot, installed Mobile Odin PRO 4.20. For me towelroot didnt break wifi, so I could install Mobile Odin PRO from Play Store. I think I also installed and opened SuperSU before opening Mobile Odin Pro. I checked root with Root Checker Basic app from Play Store.

3. Flashed alexndrs BOB7 5.0 from internal SD card via Mobile odin PRO, during rom installation selected update stock recovery, then booted to download mode

4. Flashed BOB7 modem and bootloader from alexndrs thread

in case of bootloop, i would take out the battery and then wipe cache/data. End result : Alexndrs 5.0 BOB7 rom, rooted with knox 0x0.
[Galaxy S 5 General] ZioGTS:
This is Samsung Galaxy S5 forum... :angel:
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
Yeah...I already told the bloke that........2 days ago.

Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] b0ng0:
Was wondering, did you go straight from ANE2 to Alexndrs BOB7, or did you upgrade to ANG2 then flash BOB7?
[Galaxy S 5 General] tomi555:
That's right I went straight from ANE2 to Alexndrs BOB7
[Galaxy S 5 General] chris_g:
I wonder whether it is possible to use this root method, and then update to _stock_ Android 5 Lollipop and keep root. I do not want to run a custom ROM, because I'm a developer, and I need to test my apps with stock Android (that's what most people have). SuperSU allows to turn root off temporarily, so it's perfect to test with both stock ROM and root on the same device. For example, the Alexndrs ROM gives write access to the SD-Card to all apps, although there ARE new write functions for it in Android 5 (which I need to test!).

Does any of the following methods work?:

1. Use Mobile Odin to flash both stock Android 5 and the SuperSU ZIP in one go?

or

2. Root 4.4.2 with this method, then install an app like OTA rootkeeper, and finally flash just the Lollipop kernel and system partitions with Odin? This would work if the root keeper tool would be able to keep a root app on the data partition (and the system doesn't block root apps running from data).

If neither works, I will probably have to use this method:

http://www.ibtimes.co.uk/root-galaxy-s5-sm-g900f-android-5-0-lollipop-cf-auto-root-1478356

but I would loose my warranty (Knox=1), right?

Thanks!

Chris
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
Chainfire has said MO doesn't work with LP yet......he's working on it and said he will release a new version of MO when he's cracked it........so far, playstore hasn't prompted me to update MO.......

And yes, if you use CF Root, you'll trip KNOX and void warranty.......

Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] chris_g:
Yes, I'm aware of that. But I'm still on KitKat! And there is a flashable ZIP and even an Odin for Windows installer of SuperSU! That's why I wondered whether I could somehow flash stock Lollipop followed by SuperSU with mobile Odin while still on KitKat. It would do the same as Odin for Windows, but without tripping the Knox flag...
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
That's what I was trying to say. As far as I understand it, Mobile Odin won't flash lollipop firmwares.....Please correct me if I'm wrong.

Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
Why? Mobile Odin can flash anything, but cannot work on Lollipop. So:

MOP on KK to flash KK -> YES

MOP on KK to flash LP -> YES

MOP on LP to flash any -> NO
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
Ok......I understood wrong......now I know....learnt something today....lol

Sent from my rooted kn0x0 stocKK SM-G900F S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] Looki75:
Thanks!

Thanks you guys!

I bought my S5 yesterday and imediately performed rooting as described!

Works perfectly!

:good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] HawaiianBoy:
I got my GM-900M ANG5 FINALLY ROOTED ! THANKS TO ALL THE TEAM :D :D !!

BUT

Let's suppose i wanna have the SYSTEM STATUS: OFFICIAL using WANAM XPOSED...

I'm wondering 2 very important questions:

1. After having the system status: OFFICIAL , can I update to STOCK LOLLIPOP normally via OTA without loosing the root?

2. If it's not possible, can I do it with Odin Mobile Pro ( I already have it installed) without ****ing up the root or the knox ? and How?

Thank u very much !!
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Point 1 not possible and for point 2, did you even bother reading my 1 post on this thread completely? ??
[Galaxy S 5 General] HawaiianBoy:
First thank u a lot again !!

Second, for sure i read practically all the thread. But as u should know, we r not all geek masters as u are. I'm new on android; also my english isn't my first language ... I'm sorry.

Therefore, I wanna know if it's possible to flash the STOCK ROM LOLLIPOP (as the ROM of Alexndr its just for G900F) on my device using mobile odin pro WITHOUT LOOSING MY ROOT??

And if its possible; where I can find the LOLLIPOP stock rom for my device or there is one good custom rom for the G900M ???

Thank u !!
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
You are doing a SO BIG confusion that is not simple to answer to you.

_alexndr ROM is not a stock LP ROM, but a custom ROM based on stock ROM.

If you are on LP, you CANNOT use Mobile Odin Pro. MOP works only on Kitkat.

If you flash a stock LP ROM (using Odin from a PC), you will lose root access.

If:

you are on a kitkat ROM AND

the ROM is rooted AND

you have MOP installed AND

you want to flash a custom ROM based on a stock LP ROM, in which root is supported (as _alexndr is)

THEN root is maintaned.

Stock ROMs for your device are available on sammobile (no root).

For custom ROMs, go on upper folder of this thread and read about all custom ROMs available, checking if G900M is supported or not. Remember that most of times you need at least BL and CP (for your device) of the stock ROM base. I don't know where to get them, look around threads.
[Galaxy S 5 General] HawaiianBoy:
Thank u a lot master... u solve my confusion mostly haha But ok Ill make it clear..

I've rooted my GM-900M; it's on 4.4.2 , FIrmware ANG5 , I've got MOP.

I'm looking after to flash a STOCK ROM of LOLLIPOP but without loosing my root.

As u answer me that if I do it with Odin (PC) or normal OTA I will loose my root....

It's possible to flash it (STOCK LP ROM) using MOP WITHOUT LOOSING MY ROOT ?

That's all haha

Thank u again for ur time&help !
[Galaxy S 5 General] fubo73:
I presume no. This is because a stock LP ROM (from sammobile for example) has everything in a single archive: bootloader, modem, kernel, rom, ..., and MOP will flash it completely overwriting the changes towelroot did to grant you the root.

If you think, this is the reason why _alexndr work is so appreciated!
[Galaxy S 5 General] HawaiianBoy:
Ok haha Therefore maybe I already extract a kernel from a STOCK ROM of Sammobile to root my phone.. ( Post #13 if im not wrong).

I fully appreciate ur help and time ! Thank u a lot !!!
[Galaxy S 5 General] Dr.ghanem:
Thanks :o
[Galaxy S 5 General] yclerk:
I just received my branded G900F a few days ago, it came preinstalled with BNL9.

Reading through some threads and guides how to get root access with knox 0x0 still intact, I'm at somewhat of a crossroads.

According to Phone Info, my product code is "VD2" and my CSC is "G900FVFR1BNL2". My phone says it's manufactured on Mar 12 2015, so it's much newer than the old vulnerable KitKat version (ANE2) which would be needed for me to gain root access on Lollipop.

The way I read the CSC part of the first post in this thread, case 3 applies for me: The CSC is not included in the extended CSC package and it's multipart (whatever that means exactly). I was going to follow the guide at bit .ly/1CcWV3G, which is corroborated by what I've read in this thread (minus the updated DevBase releases).

So my question is: Has anyone successfully performed a downgrade to KK to gain root with LP? Will I even be able to flash it back to KK when it was manufactured after the LP release? Any info would be of great help, I understandably don't want to brick my device mere days after obtaining it.

/edit: Reading this post, I'm thinking flashing an old version should work – but I'm still somewhat unsure about the CSC part.

/edit2: I chose to unbrand my phone by flashing regular ANE2. From there on, everything worked great and I have happily and safely arrived on BOC7.
[Galaxy S 5 General] KenOfHeavens:
Help

I Want you guys tell me step by step how can I root my S5 G900F lollipop BOA3 without tripping knox ? do I need to downgrade to root with towelroot ?

and if i rooted it will wipe my data ?? :confused:

Thank you and sorry for my bad english :(
[Galaxy S 5 General] inoctis:
Successfully completed

this procedure to lollypop BOA3. Now there are 2 newer Versions. How can i now upgrade from BOA3 to BOC7 without doing the whole long procedure again? Thanks!
[Galaxy S 5 General] ChelseaHansa:
You can't. [emoji22] This are already asken here.
[Galaxy S 5 General] the dreamer:
Is there 5.0 rom for g900fd 4.4 rooted without trigerring knox
[Galaxy S 5 General] LSOP962:
Hi! I'm on a G900F, on stock Lollipop BOC7. Is there really any need to flash any kernels to root without tripping Knox? I've read on Reddit - /r/galaxys5/comments/2ubsbs/guide_rooted_android_50_for_the_international/ - that all you need to do is flash the ANE2 firmware using PC Odin and then use Towelroot to root and SuperSU to disable Knox, before flashing Alexndr's custom ROM using mobile Odin and BL and CP files using PC Odin. Would this method work just as well as the one in this thread would? Thanks for your help.

I managed to root my phone using the method on Reddit linked to above, but using the updated BOC7 ROM, BL and CP files. If any other rooting newbies like myself happen to be reading this thread and are somewhat confused by this method in the OP I would advise using this method instead. It's a lot easier to follow. I booted to recovery mode and wiped data again at the end of all too on the advice of another website.
[Galaxy S 5 General] yclerk:
Those instructions are the same as the one linked here, so yes. The only difference is that the latter has updated versions, but that's about it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] aguarello:
[MENTION=3535808]wajiman[/MENTION] Can I flash pure stock firmware, for example BOC7 (no devbase, no customization), with the new version of Mobile Odin? Rooting and keeping knox 0x0 in the process?

Thanks!

Sent from my SM-G900F
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
I can't get my hands on the beta (dunno why, google says i m not eligible) but i did ask chainfire, on which he replied yes you can. Still i won't advise as there is a bug that has been identified causing black screen mobile stuck on second boot

EDIT: [MENTION=5885704]aguarello[/MENTION] now you can flash the latest Dev Base or stock rom without tripping knox. For stock rom just select ever root option for dev Base don't select it. But i haven't tried it myself for the stock rom. I heard of this from another user who was successful in flashing rom with ever root option and has knox 0x0
[Galaxy S 5 General] aguarello:
[MENTION=3535808]wajiman[/MENTION] thank you so much! Sorry that I can't thank your post, I'm on the phone app and it doesn't let me (XDA ONE APP)...

So no need to flash BL and CP when flashing stock ROMs with FlashFire?
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
For stock roms no but for dev Base yes.
[Galaxy S 5 General] danishzd:
wondering if it will work on my device, i recently updated my android using Kies and what i have is

4.4.2 sm-900I

Baseband: G900IDVU1ANJ1

Kernel: 3.4.0-321551

Build: KOT49H.G900IVU1ANK1

I only want to get the root access, dont care about knox or installing custom firmware, please help

Adding more details to it, I have tried CF-Auto-Root-klte-kltedv-smg900i.tar, Towel root, and a couple more methods,
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Your question has already been answered before search the thread
[Galaxy S 5 General] jneves141:
can anyone provide me a link for G900FXXUANE2? tried samfirmware and nothing
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Use samsung-updates dot com
[Galaxy S 5 General] Joker87:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/download/29471/G900FXXU1ANE2_G900FITV1AND2_ITV/
[Galaxy S 5 General] the dreamer:
How can i upgrade my g900fd 4.4 rooted to 5.0 without loosing root and knox still 0
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Flash 4.4.2 and root using the instructions then install flashfire and select the firmware downloaded from sammobile with inject everroot option ticked and you are done!
[Galaxy S 5 General] the dreamer:
Thanks a lot

I already rooted my h900fd with towelroot

Now i will download latest original 5.0 from sam after that i will use flashfire 0.17 to flash it, by this way i will not loose the root and knox still 0 isnt it?
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Flashing via flashfire would allow you to select inject ever root while updating, hence retaining root and knox at 0x0
[Galaxy S 5 General] Joker87:
Will flashfire keep knox 0x0 even when flashing custom zips?
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Only if it does not flash custom recovery and kernel knox will remain 0
[Galaxy S 5 General] the dreamer:
Thanks dear for your support

When start using flashfire it showed me some option to choose?
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
apart from the chosen ones, just choose modem
[Galaxy S 5 General] the dreamer:
the rom and root after flashing 5.0 working fine

But

I have some issues

Xposed installer 3.0 framwork installer is black so i cant install the framework like befor in kk 4.4

Every time i reboot my device i must type wireless password

Bootloader still nh7

This is the major untile now
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Flash boot loader via odin and xposed does not work on android 5 for s5.
[Galaxy S 5 General] the dreamer:
is it important to update the bootloader or just leave it because in my previous s4 i9505 i updated the bootloader but the knox triggered because of custom kernal

there is some heat in the back also some apps & games not working (where can i find the data for apps & games so i can copy it and install apps & games again. mybackup pro not working good)

Am using some modules in xposed very helpful like minminguard but its not working now so if i know that i will not upgrade my device to LP 5.0

i will try this ROM for some days so can i go back to KK 4.4 by flashfire also to keep the root or not ( may be i will go back to KK or not)

sorry for this long text
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
Update using stock boot loader
[Galaxy S 5 General] afzalbhimani:
I intend to root my G900FD with following manner

Current state : FDXXU1BOC2 non rooted

1. Flash ANF6 rom using odin

2. restart and factory reset

3. root thru towelroot - (Once done, reboot and open towelroot and click make it rain)

Now beyond this I am confused can I flash LP rom for FD or I need to flash stock BOC2 again and then use SuperSu and then flash LP rom for G900FD.

I don't wanna flag off my Knox as its 0x0

Last I flash was my Note 2 but was 2 yrs back so now I am newbie and confused.

Need help beyond point 3 and need to know if I am on right direction.
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
4. Download mobile odin and install. (Need pro version)

5. Download latest firmware from Sammobile

6. Put it in sd card.

7. Open mobile odin and select firmware, navigate to where you put the firmware.

8. Check everroot and flash.

This should not trigger knox
[Galaxy S 5 General] afzalbhimani:
I am now on 4.4.2 ANF6 rooted thru towel root.

Mobile Odin Pro doesn't works for me on my G900FD it says device model not supported.

I did following steps

1. Flash ANF6 for g900FD thru odin

2. install Towelroot and Ra1n

I checked with rootchecker and I have acess to root , install supersu , fireflash n mobileodin as well. SuperSu takes proper permission but cant get MobileOdin and Fireflash work.

please advice how to get on Lollipop 5.0 n then flash custom rom or I can flash custom rom thru recovery ?

My knox is 0x0
[Galaxy S 5 General] wajiman:
You cannot flash custom room through recovery as you have stock recovery. Please check in SuperSU app whether you have provided permission to mobile odin. Fire flash does not work on android 4.4 for now but mobile odin does work. What error message do you get?
[Galaxy S 5 General] afzalbhimani:
it says device not supported

I am on G900FDXXU1ANF6

AGAIN I AM ON g900fd DUOS

UPDATE : Flash custom rom thru FF v0.18 and t worked well . Knox 0x0 and Root intact.

Baseband still shows ANF6 . guess it no issues.
[Galaxy S 5 General] 2ndcarpenter:
I had that issue when I flashed OD3 (5.01) from ND3 (4.4.2) still had the NL2 baseband.

This is what I did:

Flash update package, like you are going to flash it again. Select the zip you want. This time deselect all partitions and select modem firmware...... if there is an option. I think by default FF doesn't flash the baseband unless you tell it to. At least it didn't when I flashed with v0.16. The only partitions that were pre-selected were Boot, Recovery, System, Cache, and Preload/Hidden.
[Galaxy S 5 General] LioN.eXe:
Hi,

Im usnig G900FD how can i downgrade from android 5 to 4.4.2? here is no ANE2 Firmware for G900FD

Or should i flash ANF6 firmware?
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
Go to sammobile.com and search for the firmwares for your device and carrier........

Select the correct KK firmware and flash with Odin.......

Sent from my rooted, debloated stocKK kn0x0 SM-G900F
[Galaxy S 5 General] LioN.eXe:
after downgrade and root can i upgrade my phone to android 5.0?
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
Once you're fully unrooted stock, you may get OTA back in which case manually upgrading won't be necessary. If you DON'T get OTA back, the process is the same as for downgrading......search for the correct firmware and flash it......which ever way you go (downgrade or upgrade) it might be necessary to factory reset in recovery (after the flash) before the phone will boot.......

Sent from my rooted, debloated stocKK kn0x0 SM-G900F
[Galaxy S 5 General] LioN.eXe:
if i flash latest 5.0 rom with odin it keeps root? and my knox will be 0x0?

Thank you :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] *Detection*:
Nope, if you flash another ROM via ODIN, you'll lose root

If you want to root 5.0, KNOX = 0x1
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
That's one of the reasons I've stayed with KK........I want a rooted device with Knox at 0x0........

Sent from my rooted, debloated stocKK kn0x0 SM-G900F
[Galaxy S 5 General] *Detection*:
I'd say with BOD3, and even the previous BOB7, Lollipop is definitely worth the upgrade now

I went back to KK yesterday to see if what everyone was saying was true, and it was definitely a downgrade compared

I lasted about 2 hours before returning to Lollipop

Battery life was terrible compared, and things like scrolling photos in gallery was juddery, whereas in LP it's smooth as butter, the UI is clunky in KK too
[Galaxy S 5 General] ChelseaHansa:
If you already are rooted, you CAN flash latest 5.0 firmware if you use Flash Fire instead of Odin.
[Galaxy S 5 General] keithross39:
It does look promising....but (cmiiw) the app is still at beta test stage isn't it?

Sent from my rooted, debloated stocKK kn0x0 SM-G900F
[Galaxy S 5 General] LioN.eXe:
Yeah i saw it in Galaxy S5 Duos Thread i asked how but no one replied my message :/ can you tell me how? Im sorry i was using xperia z1 Im new to samsung devices :)

Sry for my bad eng..
[Galaxy S 5 General] ChelseaHansa:
Beta, yes. Work well I think.

---------- Post added at 09:51 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:49 PM ----------

Flashfire has it's own tread. It is well described there.

Edit: You can find it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3075433
[Galaxy S 5 General] LioN.eXe:
Thakn you guys :) Rooted my SM-G900FD (Android 5.0) with Knox 0x0 :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] maximuspr7:
Hello friends

I own a Tmobile S5 and i updated for the first time was a small update but you guys know that those updates are security update Lol and i **** up big time ......The version on my phone still 4.4.2 but Towel root wont work i want something easy like that app any suggestions plz help thanks in advance ........

---------- Post added at 02:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:02 PM ----------

I need help rooting my Tmobile S5 4.4.2 towel root wont work plz help
[Galaxy S 5 General] darkness88:
All ok!

It's works! Thank you!