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[Nexus 5 Android Development] vgrade:
Thanks but please be mindful of what YOU are distributing.

BR

vgrade
[Nexus 5 Android Development] julle131:
Is there something I overlooked when I uploaded this? /system of cyanogenmod and sailfish zip, right?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vgrade:
Hi Julle

sailfish.zip is totally fine no issues,

I'm just not sure of the contents of /system. Is everything in there redistributable? Nothing proprietary from qcom ?

We shall have a new method soon with a new version of multirom which will talk the cm.zip and sailfish.zip and flash them both together so IF this is an issue then we will have a fallback option.

BR

vgrade
[Nexus 5 Android Development] 5pik3:
Wow, Sailfish OS is amazing!

There some bugs but it's really a cool system, I love it :)

Thanks to all people involve in the developpement of this system :)

Oh and great news, I had found some tricks to use the keyboard predictions and jolla store to work and also a easy install of warehouse app!

First of all download the .rmp of warehous app to the official site https://openrepos.net/content/basil/warehouse-sailfishos

Now you will use the terminal app or the ssh access.

You need to have the root permission with this command 'devel-su' (use the password generate in the developper settings (or the one you defined)).

Now you have a root access, edit the ssu.ini file with this command 'vi /etc/ssu/ssu.ini' and delete your username and password. I mean under 'credientials-store' you have 'password=apassword' and 'username=yourusername', just delete what is writen after password and username like this 'password=' and 'username='

Then save the file.

After that, use 'zypper refresh' and you will see a something like 'Authentication required for...'. Delete your username and hit the enter key.

Now you have to write 'i' to ignore and press enter. Do that for all this kind of messages.

Then go to your downloads folder with 'cd /Downloads'. Now install the warehouse app with 'pkcon install-local harbour-warehouse-0.3-20.armv7hl.rpm'.

And now you can have the keyboard predictions by 'pkcon install jolla-xt9' and 'pkcon install jolla-xt9-cp'.

And for the store use 'pkcon install store-client'.

Now it's should work :)

PS : Sorry if I made mistakes in English, this is not my mother tongue, I try to do my best ;)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] starche_old:
Downloading. Gonna try.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] jalyst:
[MENTION=2208057]vgrade[/MENTION]

If you could address my post too, it'd be very much appreciated.

Thank-you.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] vgrade:
Jalyst Hi

I'm not a Jolla employee (I'm just part of the Sailfish community) so cannot comment on their plans in offering AD as a paid option from the store.

If you want to request this please do so at https://together.jolla.com/questions/

From a community standpoint I'd much prefer an open solution.

The way the Sailfish stack is designed it leads itself more to an open solution than previous attempts. It uses the android driver libs from original /system , runs an init just as in real android. For example surface flinger would run if you enabled it from init.rc. We can run the original dalvik. So all (and I know its a significant task) that is required is some plumbing to allow switching of surface flinger output to hwcomposer instead of lipstick (the sailfish compositor) and switching touch.

I'd invite anyone interested to join us at sailfishos-porters to discuss further

BR

vgrade
[Nexus 5 Android Development] jbowwow02:
Very in depth analysis. Should help new users who might want to try Sailfish.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] jalyst:
Yeah the N6 took a battering all-up, mistake to focus too heavily on it, 100% agree that the S6 & S6_Edge should come up as targets soon, as should the Note4 & G4, & my personal favourite: the Note5.

Given what we've seen with the S6/S6_Edge, I reckon it'll be a doozy, much more of a leap than the Note4 was from the Note3, both hw wise

&

sw wise, I'd donate $$$ towards the Note4 & Note5.

I'd donate time/help, but I don't have that this year...

---------- Post added at 07:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:00 PM ----------

Why China, much cheaper?

Aren't you concerned that it may lack some of the frequencies (or have redundant ones) used in your country/region?

Or do you live in China?

Tempted to get one. Unless there's already been some solid progress on a Sailfish port to the Note4, + it's possible dual-boot ROMs?

Don't think there has been though, & even if there has I'm not aware of any way to dual-boot ROMS -at least not in a way that won't void my warranty!

*EDIT*

Don't think I'll bother unless there's a nicely progressing Note4 port,

plus

it's possible to dual-boot without warranty complications.

I just don't have the time lately for the anything more complex/inconvenient/time_consuming than that.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] jalyst:
Be interesting to get some deep insights on all of this from [MENTION=2208057]vgrade[/MENTION], [MENTION=3234690]sledges[/MENTION], or [MENTION=5684778]stskeeps[/MENTION].

I hope one or more of them can take some time address most of the points you raise...

---------- Post added at 04:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:46 PM ----------

It's easy to get the N5 2nd-hand here in Australia, still, I'll only bother if there's been some solid progress on Sailfish for the GN4.

And from what I can tell, support's pretty much non-existent for it, so I guess that leaves me out for now...

By the time there is solid support* J2 won't be too far away, & other niche OS's may also have developed solid support for the GN4.

*

if

there ever is
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mudnightoil:
[MENTION=1533331]jalyst[/MENTION] can you put the main quote in spoilers pls, and quote the whole thing ... some people might be lazy and fail to realise that the benchmarks are in the OP, and that you left them out.

given the strength of the A$, I think importing from china would be very cheap for you ..
[Nexus 5 Android Development] jalyst:
Aussie dollar has plummeted about 25% in the last yr or so...

It was slightly stronger than the USD at one point, now it's well below.

Much less hassle just buying 2nd-hand from Gumtree, or similar.

But irrespective of which approach is better, I just want to be able to test it on my GN4, not on a separate N5.

If that's not possible, then SF isn't an option for me until it is, or until after the J2's been on shelves for a while.

Cheers!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mudnightoil:
Updated my above posts with some Ubuntu Phone benchmark results on the Nexus 5 (as Sailfish & Ubuntu Phone share much common ground). It doesn't seem to suffer any of Sailfish's issues ...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] nh1402:
Alpha 10 is here!, see below for the changelog as seen in the first post. Click here to download alpha 10
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ast00:
Is there a way for the gallery and music app to see the media from android?

Also: any chance at seeing the file manager working?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] CBpbxEcmecmBeH:
yes, just search this thread and the q&a part, but basically you have to mount the android partition (either manually or when booting up, via fstab). At least that's how we do it on bacon
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mudnightoil:
Alpha 10 breaks Warehouse. Error whilst installing. Same for another talk.maemo user.

Jolla Store still broken.

Don't recommend for people on Alpha 9, due to the above.

It's a little faster and smoother in general use, as the corresponding EA release on the Jolla is over stable. No closing of the gap in general performance or browsing between it and Android though, or Alien Dalvik on the Jolla. Not that it was expected.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ast00:
Tapatalk doesn't show me the QA section, but I will try and find it when I get home.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] nh1402:
Alpha 11 is here! with the Jolla store hotfix, and libhybris update. Check the FAQ page here to see answers to common questions, a special shout out to #15. ;)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mudnightoil:
Confirmed Jolla Store fixed.

Warehouse still broken (installation error) in Alpha 11, same as Alpha 10.

I don't recommend skipping the tutorial, because then bits of it infest the UX for a while afterwards, which seems to badly slow down the device ...... or at least that's my experience.

Edit: Warehouse works. I'd previously assumed the advice in the FAQ about installing an app etc in Jolla Store first was outdated, as the first thing I did when I installed Alpha 9 was downloading and installing Warehouse, and it worked straight off the bat.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mudnightoil:
The idle power consumption problem is still very much there in Alpha 11 ... it's so high that it seems like it's not just lack of optimisation / enablement ... could Sailfish's tap to wake feature still be turned on at the OS level, but without a kernel that's able to report back / disable it, and something is going haywire?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] CBpbxEcmecmBeH:
i know it's another device, but maybe you can try this:

https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/sailfish-os-for-oneplus-ooone.279537/page-50#post-10806266
[Nexus 5 Android Development] nh1402:
I skipped the tutorial and had no problems.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] EMK2000:
I am not familiar with Sailfish OS, does it have something similar to Gapps?

Or I just flash the two zip files and it's done?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] hiimimtayaz:
Yes....just the 2 zip files. ... it doesn't have google playstore.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mchlbenner:
I do like trying new ROMs but this not worth trying hardly any apps for the store has next to nothing.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] nh1402:
Well if you're a Developer then you could help develop a solution to provide Android App support on Sailfish, this XDA Thread was developed to discuss and develop a solution if one could not be found. If you know how to use cmake then it you would be able to access the source code for the gentroid project, and we could go from there.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] the_Pan:
[MENTION=1058356]mchlbenner[/MENTION]

SailfishOS is not just another Android ROM, it's an own Linux OS for phones and tablets.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mchlbenner:
May ask what you are running on your nexus 5.

All I did was point out the lack of apps and games .

People have ask about apps and things on this ROM.

If you to the app store you will see their almost nothing their.

So good ROM in my option but not apps or games to make it a daily driver.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] the_Pan:
Well if i use my nexus, i use SailfishOS. Rest of the time i use my Jolla, with SailfishOS. ;)

Of course there are some apps missing, but telling other people "there is nothing in the store, don't worth trying" is a bit hard, don't you think?

It's no Android was all i said, but normal Android user may also be a tiny bit "spoiled" with those masses of apps.

Everyone should build up his own opinion, I got my Jolla in daily use and miss nothing. Except perhaps from an native offline navigation.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] CBpbxEcmecmBeH:
^^why not use HERE maps? The android version ;), with Jolla. Shame offline maps are not natively available...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] the_Pan:
yeah, i already have sygic for android on the Jolla and am pretty happy with it, but as said it's no native app.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mchlbenner:
Really some apps missing their very threw apps for this ROM.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] forb'S:
A quick comprehension question. The latest build from 29. April is _not_ Sailfish 2.0, or? 'Cause I do not see this new notification area or see some new (swipe) design animations and features ...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] the_Pan:
Sailfish 2.0 is not yet released, not for Jolla's Devices and also not for other. ;)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ast00:
Salfish 2.0 was demoed on a Nexus 5 at MWC, but it's not released yet, not even for the Jolla phone. But since they demoed it on our device, we will probably get an official port. Hope!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] forb'S:
Yes, you're right. In the meantime I answered it myself with a personal investigation which I should do before posting.

After I saw a video from the mwc demoed Sailfish on N5 I flashed the latest build franticly! :D Result this question.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] the_Pan:
Hi everyone :D

did someone else mentioned, or is it just on me that i cant change the ringtone for the alarm clock?

and just now i recognize that there is no vibration alarm for incoming calls.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mad_fitter:
Stumped

I hope this doesn't sound too foolish, but I just cannot get this to boot.

N5 on CM12.1

Installed Multirom

Downloaded both the CM11 snapshot M9 and the latest Sailfish OS build.

Followed instructions to the letter, and everything flashes successfully. Now when I reboot, I select Sailfish OS from my rom list, and it *attempts* to boot, but it only hits the Google logo screen, then just reboots back to the multirom screen. Any suggestions? I'd really like to try this out.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] minhajlk:
What is your MultiROM version, I am on version 32b, ROM boots fine, if not try upgrading your MultiROM to v32b.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mad_fitter:
I figured it out, thanks. I had a bad package, guessing it was a corrupt download. Anyway, what a great OS! With just a few fixes, I would definitely run this as a daily driver! My main issue is the sdcard. I got the store, warehouse, and mobile data working, and I love it! Simple, different and awesome UI experience :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ast00:
There is a way to mount the sdcard, a couple of people posted it already, but it's soooooo complicated and takes a long time.

If you really want to use this as your daily driver, it might be worth it though.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mad_fitter:
Indeed. I have been reading to find the workaround, but all I've seen is a way to get around the SD by using term to install apps from the emulated storage. However, with the latest build, I've been able to install apps directly (heck, even the warehouse and apps from it have installed without using term at all!). I am still looking for the proper way to mount the sdcard though. If anyone could direct me towards it, I'd greatly appreciate it. I don't mind a little bit of work to get it straightened out. I really like this OS :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ajeesh vijayan:
does it read sdcard?

app download from store works?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ast00:
You might as well read the last 3 posts...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dr.pythagora:
my nexus 5 runs with cm 12.1.

does sailfish install and work if we flash the sailfish image over cm12.1 without flashing cm11 snapshot M9?

with the multirom manager, is it possible to return to cm12?

thanks!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] soupysoup:
Are u flashing it with the CM11 base or CM12.1 base, bcuz if ur using the CM12.1 base that's ur problem
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dr.pythagora:
answering to myself: this may help others

flashing cm11 M9 and next sailfish images on a nexus 5 running on cm12.1 works fine.

the issue i am facing is wifi connection. when i select my wifi network, it does not require any password and fails to connect saying:

sorry. could not connect to selected network.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Omar97:
http://images.devaamo.fi/sfe/hammerhead/alpha12/

alpha 12 is out guys !!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mad_fitter:
Awesome! I'll be sure to try it out. The more I use this OS, the more I like it.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dr.pythagora:
how to install it over the current version? just flashing it with multirom?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Fransis88:
+1
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mad_fitter:
I ran into a few issues right away. 1) Had a problem with downloading the warehouse. Started to download, but immediately stopped. A zypper refresh seemed to solve the issue. 2) I have entered all of the required info for the APN, but I still cannot send/receive picture texts, but regular texts work just fine.

I wish I knew where the file is that stores the default APN so it could be edited, because every time you reboot, the APN setting disappears.

Other than that, this is a stellar OS. I love it, even without the android app support. Being *slightly* nix savvy, there's a lot of tweaking that can be done, but I'm still very unfamiliar with the file system.

I did find a way to access the SD card, but its not as readily accessible as I'd like. IE: I have access to my music folder, but the music player still won't recognize that the files are there unless I copy the entire folder and move it into the nemo music directory. Same applies for docs and photos.

Just wish I was more familiar with Linux so I could help the community more, lol.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dr.pythagora:
I am using my Nexus 5 with Sailfish since almost two weeks.

It is a nice system to use. However, compared to CM12, there are a number of issues. I think Jolla team and the community behind it will address and eventually solve them. I am listing a few issues, with the hope that eventually there are already solutions for them (I have made an extensive search but I haven't found solution for them).

- battery drains tooo fast!

- the font size! is there any way how to increase the font size, or the dpi?

- readibility of the screen is far from acceptable!

- the dialer: there must be a nice smart dialer these days!

- the notifications (like connected to wifi, ...) on the top: the white/grey background of the notifications makes the reading horrible!

- hangout: the native hangout, qgvdial, does not connect to the account

- ...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sledges:
Thanks for the feedback!

- How fast does the battery drain?

- If you're using alpha12, system-wide font size is appropriate. Fingerterm app can increase its individual font in settings

- what would you like to see fixed in dialer? I miss the "enter the number but make T9 suggestions from address book" . I liked that press-and-hold in call log shows last call duration and phone number (again, from alpha12 - 1.1.6 sailfishos)

- to have notification contrast changed -- change your ambience or customise its colour - via Gallery->Ambiences

- Have you used Hangish? Otherwise, contact the app creator of qgvdial via comments, and you could also create a bug in http://bit.ly/port-new-bug , in this way porters community, the app creator, and yourself, will be kept in a loop for testing<->fixing
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sledges:
To all alpha12:

It is now safe to perform

devel-su zypper ref
devel-su zypper dup

from time to time. If you do it now, you'll get front camera working \o/ selfie time :D

OTA updates might also work (when 1.1.7 is out), but will need extra commands after upgrade reboot, we're looking into this first ourselves :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dr.pythagora:
Many thanks for the comments.

- 2% per hour, with 3-4 apps runnung in background (messaging, weather, calendat and settings) and phone sleeping; compared to the battery performance with cm12, I consider 2% high battery consumption

- this is great; I will install it and try to change the font size

- T9 suggestion is a must; having a dialer with cm12 dialer functionalities would be great

- for notification contrast - I will see ambiances how it works

- no, I haven't used hangish; I tried but it never logins; nor qgvdial.

Thanks gain for the comments. They are helpfull.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mad_fitter:
Really only a couple things stopping me from using this as a daily runner.

1) Yes, T9 text correction is pretty much a must-have. It makes typing long messages painful.

2) If we could somehow make kernel tweaks with some kind of graphical UI, I think we could really improve both battery life and smoothness.

3) App support. I won't complain about this, because I know the platform is very young, and Jolla is working on a lot of back end stuff (This will all improve with time).

Other than that, this is by far one of the best mobile platforms I have ever used. Sure wish a Jolla phone was available in states.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] minhajlk:
Hi,

Is there a way to cancel the user guide after ROM installation? I find this delaying the excitement by a few mins :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sledges:
HOT news - early GPS works! Huge thanks to the community member Matti Lehtimäki ( [MENTION=6523629]mal-[/MENTION] ) for making this happen!!!

# ensure you're using alpha12 image, then:
devel-su zypper ref
devel-su zypper dup
# ensure nothing remains from initial version:
devel-su zypper remove geoclue-provider-hybris
# grab the goodies
devel-su zypper in geoclue-provider-hybris-community

Install gpsinfo from Warehouse, if it's cloudy, it will get fix indoors near the window in ~15mins (feels like back in 2010 :D )

More reports indicate even longer fix waiting times indoors, also this GPS is just alpha with known success cases, please report bugs to channel. Known bugs already:

https://bugs.nemomobile.org/show_bug.cgi?id=839

Enjoy!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mad_fitter:
I learned that hangish isn't required for hangouts. If the person is in your contacts list, the messaging app natively supports a hangout :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dr.pythagora:
I am returning my findings with regard to previous message.

- I installed 'fingerterm'. But I didn't find any way how this could change the font size of applications.

- Ambiances do not have options to change background color of notification area. I assume everybody has pointed out that the top notification area is unreadible: grey text on a white background! Also, the text notification text is tiny.

However, I think this rom is already very good. It will become great. We are almost there.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] the_Pan:
Galery > Ambiences > (choose your Ambience) > Appearance (or something similar) is where you can change the background color.

But you have to set the Ambiance to Favorites first (mark the star on right side of the picture). The text will still be tiny, but readable :)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] ast00:
It's nice to have GPS working, but do you have plans to mount the android storage by default, so that the gallery app picks up our older images for example? It takes a long time to do manually and most people don't know how to do it. It's about the only thing stopping me from using this daily.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] F4uzan:
Ubuntu Touch is able to mount Android's local /data partition (which mean it can read internal storage too). It should be easier on Sailfish since Sailfish is stacked with CM11 (I don't really sure, tho. It's just my own theory).
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sledges:
Some people fedback not getting GPS fix. It's still early stages, please run test_gps in a clear area (best outside, and be patient) and see if it eventually starts spamming fingerterm with successful fix and coordinates. It -should- then work in other apps too. If not, please report findings :) http://bit.ly/port-new-bug

Regarding sdcard mount - it's written in FAQ question #16, and we have considered making it automatic, but were reluctant as it would differ from device to device. We'll try to prep something out ;) Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] sledges:
- fingerterm has it's own font size controlled separately, I thought you were displeased with that app too :)

- Notifications text size is smaller than the rest of the system, but it's proportionate to that on Jolla Phone. Notifications become available in full-font through the bottom-edge swipe. SailfishOS 2.0 should show an improvement there

Thanks for good words, we're getting there!!
[Nexus 5 Android Development] dr.pythagora:
When I spoke about notifications on the top, I meant those notifications which are related to the system in general (such as "the file not found", "update completed", "setting the usb mode", ...). These notifications are not available for viewing by swiping from the bottom.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] nh1402:
Some android app for sailfish progress has been made but we need your help! Click here to see petals redux working on the Nexus 5 running Sailfish! (read the video description for more information)