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[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leonart:
I want to believe.

As I said, I really want to love this tablet. And frankly I don't see a competing device that stands out as the obvious alternative. I'd be giving up certain features like the high-res AMOLED or the super-thin form factor for a smooth UI... It's a trade-off. I need to figure out which features are more important to me.

I got my Tab S from Amazon so returning it should be painless. I might be willing to swap it for a different one to see what happens. To be honest, I am skeptical that there are Tab S that are smoother than what I already have.

EDIT:

I just installed the unofficial CM 11 and I can say that it runs quite smoothly.

My setup as of right now is pretty barebones, and I need to do more testing.

But the aforementioned site newyorker.com, which was running like crap in Firefox and Chrome, runs more smoothly right now in the stock Browser than it did in either of those browsers. Swiping between homescreens is instantaneous, no stutter, no lag, no framerate drops. App drawer is butter, just like my Nexus 4.

Incidentally, my Nexus 4 runs CM. Maybe that makes all of the difference. I imagine that AOSP might be pretty responsive as well.

Going to do more poking around and report back if this "fixes" it. This at least indicates that the device has the capacity to be smooth, which will make it easier on me as I won't have to return it.

UPDATE:

Mixed results.

Nova launcher is perhaps just as choppy on CM as it was on stock.

CM's native launcher is much smoother -- really it's "perfect" in terms of responsiveness.

Certain sites are still choppy compared to my Nexus 4. But then I started testing these sites with my Tab S alongside my 2013 Retina Macbook Pro. These same sites can be choppy in my desktop browser, that is, with an SSD, Core i7 CPU and a dedicated GPU. One thing to note is that due to the resolution of the Tab S, you often end up pulling down the same version of a page as you would in a desktop browser, due to the resolution. This is part of the reason why my Nexus 4 might have appeared more performant in previous tests -- it's not merely rendering the same page at a lower resolution, but sometimes a page that was optimized for mobile. But since the resolution of the device plays a part in what "version" of a page gets sent to the browser, the Tab S suffers to an extent in that it has to do the work of a desktop/laptop.

Can't comment on Nova, but it again might be more of an optimization issue than the fault of the device itself. Maybe Nova chokes on 2560x1600 because there's really only a small handful of devices that even operate at the resolution, the developers might not know it's an issue at all, or have even tested those resolutions thoroughly.

Also stock kind of sucks and is simply way more bloated than CM (obviously) but I think a lot of the slowness goes away just ditching that.

I guess my faith is on the path to being restored, here. At least now I can do basic tasks like open the app drawer, open/close an app without the animations dropping to 5 frames per second.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leonart:
[I guess I can't delete posts.]
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Well when I had the tab s 10.5 I also got a tab pro 8.4 which btw has the same resolution of the tab s, but the Pro 8.4 runs on snapdragon 800 and damn I love that tablet is pretty smooth even on stock touchwiz. I bet that if you get one you will not miss the Tab S (well only the super ambled screen) but it will give you a pretty responsive experience.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leonart:
I'm starting to think you're right. It might have less impressive specs, but maybe that's moot if it actually runs better. I'll save $100 in the process as well.

Here's what I'm gonna do: order the Tab Pro, and return whichever device runs worse.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Seems like a good movement, keep us updated on your impressions.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Itchiee:
Here are two important tips that improve Samsung devices.... for those looking for tips and tweaks.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEjQMM8xplc

Chrome can use a little help too with this tweak:

chrome://flags/#max-tiles-for-interest-area

(Change that setting to 512, and select the relaunch button at the bottom of the screen.)

Samsung makes some great hardware but they like to add too much to "enhance" the user experience.

So I have rooted mine, to remove those items I do not need, and the bloat running in the background.

Should I have to do this? Well, yes, why else would I post on the preferred website for tinkers and tweakers.....

Here is what my tablet looks like when its running... See the reduction, almost as thin as stock Android.

And with no loss in function guess how my tablet runs? </rhetorical>

Just sharing some positivity since there seems to be an upswing in bitter spam :)
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Guess somebody will found this tips very useful, thanks for sharing.

those tips about animations are basic for any android and that doesn't solve the web browsing stutter, I did those as always do it with all my devices. This stuttering is more like dropped frames and that is not solved with this "hacks"
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leonart:
I meant to say I'd return whichever is worse, not better. I think you got that, though.

It'll be here Monday.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fjpadilla:
Installed Hong Kong Firmware

Hi!.

I'm from Spain. My firm was an FB versión. I installed the lastest from Hong Kong zone ( G2) without problems. All settings and data ok.

It is more responsive now, less lag.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Leonart:
I flashed the Tab S back to stock to do a comparison.

My results were mixed. The Tab Pro might be a bit faster, or it might be placebo effect. Either way, switching homescreens is often just a laggy on the Pro as the S. Side-by-side browser tests yield similar performance. Animations and transitions were hit and miss, but more often a hit than a miss.

I experimented with Nova Launcher by rebooting both devices and then opening the app drawer after boot. It seemed a bit more responsive on the Pro, but there was still some occasional stuttering. Most notably, the Tab S seems to drop frames as soon as I swipe to the "widgets" category in Nova Launcher. After maybe ten or so tests, the Tab Pro seems like it might be smoother, but ten isn't a very good sample size, and the process isn't very scientific since I'm using my own eyes to measure. Overall, the differences were way too subtle to definitively say that the Tab Pro is consistently and dramatically faster. But it's definitely not slower, either.

That said, I did experience the extreme lag in the Simpsons Tapped Out game on the Tab S. This (like many issues) I believe is an optimization problem rather than an immutable aspect of the tablet.

The weight/height/thickness difference is negligible; the Pro feels just as comfortable in the hands as the S, and frankly there's just a bit more to grab on to.

In conclusion, I find these tablets to be almost equal when I weigh the relative and subjective pros and cons. But the biggest pro for the Pro (sorry) is the lower price. As of right now, the white Tab Pro is $280 on Amazon (black is sold out unless you want a refurb). I paid $310 last week, but I'm pretty sure a $30 refund is only an email away. So part of the question is: is the Tab S $90-120 worth of improvements over the Tab Pro? For my purposes, no. The biggest difference between them in my opinion is the display.

I'm still debating if I want to hang on to it, or wait for the rumored Nexus 9, which at a 4:3 aspect ratio would have a display just as tall, but also a little wider. I could hold onto it for as long as the return policy allows, but that's maybe a bit exploitative and unethical.

I still have both tablets until tomorrow, so if there's any other comparisons or tests I can do that aren't extremely time consuming, let me know.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonerp:
I posted a poll on this from day 1 and got attacked because I mentioned lag - LOL, then got told to take a break from the forum! I was neither rude nor inflamatory. I was just after some assistance....

It appears some don't have issues (quality control in the build process?) or are oblivious to it...fair enough. BUT...

I don't really want to root as I don't understand how to and what to debloat. However I shouldn't need to having spent £400 on a top device.

Using ultra fast internet at home, rendering web pages is terrible and takes a while before its 'built' the page for scrolling.

Lag occurs regularly on the browser (any) and photo gallery. A restart helps for a short time.

I discussed this with samsung around 4 weeks ago and they assured me of a fw fix....still waiting....

Would I buy it again? No. As I use mainly for web and photo viewing. The screen is nice but it appears in its current state the processors can't handle it effectively.

I've had note 2 and note 3's, all smooth as silk on exynos processors.

My OnePlus one on cyanogen is awesome. Can the Tab S run Cyanogen mod?

thanks
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GeorgeP:
Maybe you got a defective device. You may want to try exchanging it. My experience has been that Samsung sometimes has some quality control issues on the initial batches of new tablets. I had a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 that I got the day it was available. It would not hold a connection to a bluetooth keyboard. I had to exchange it twice. The third one was flawless.

Given how expensive these tablets are, one should not tolerate bad performance, nor should one have to root and debloat (which probably wouldn't make that much of a difference anyway, since you can disable a lot of stuff without rooting).

Couple things to check:

You said you have lag with the gallery. I can swipe photos as fast as I physically can and it keeps up...no lag. Are you using really large photo files (e.g., taken with a 36 megapixel camera)? On some of the older galaxy devices I have found that the app Story Album slows down the gallery. If you are running that, try uninstalling.

With regard to your internet browsing, Chrome, on this tablet, has always been slow, but the last Chrome update helps a lot. The stock browser has always been fast and smooth for me. The stock browser is as fast as my wife's ipad air, but not quite as buttery smooth.What is your network speed when testing with speedtest.net? Are you using Sidesync? (There is bug in Sidesync that dramatically slows down wifi performance under certain conditions).

I'm running non-rooted, stock and am pretty happy with the performance. If I weren't I certainly would have returned or exchanged it.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neverborn:
Lag was indeed noticeable when I first booted up the tablet. Since then I've done the following, and I'm pretty much ok with the performance now:

1. Switched to Nova Launcher

2. Used a live wallpaper - this eliminated lag in the homescreen. I think using static wallpaper makes the tab drop the framerate and/or CPU immediately, while using a wallpaper that's constantly moving makes sure it doesn't ramp down/up so much.

3. Forced GPU rendering.

4. Froze a LOT of apps (mostly Samsung)

I still see the occassional glitch/stutter, but not nearly as bad as before. I still keep my Xperia Z Ultra (for now) as it's still the fastest/smoothest performing Android device I've ever used.

Hope this helps.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickydenim:
How do you freeze apps? I installed Xposed (I haven't rooted) and can now see lots more processes/apps but I'm not sure how to freeze what I'm not using.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bonerp:
Would you mind listing or taking screen shots of the apps you've frozen? Do any reduce functionality?

thanks
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neverborn:
You freeze apps using Titanium Backup.

---------- Post added at 05:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:55 PM ----------

There's a long list of apps for screenshot, but you could check the S5 forums - they have lots of threads about removing bloatware.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickydenim:
I downloaded Titanium backup but it says it won't work without it being rooted?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xRevilatioNx:
You need ROOT to freeze apps. Otherwise just turn off the apps not in use.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kenkiller:
Hey, you can't use Xposed without root, so what are you talking about?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rickydenim:
When I first picked up my Tab S and came here to look for ways to remove bloatware etc I found a thread on Xposed and DVFS Disabler - I installed both without rooting first and quickly realised it wouldn't do anything and removed. However, I now see a LOT more Apps/running processes in my application manager than I previously saw!
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CyberManiaK:
Well so at the end which one you kept ?

Well if you want to make such changes like disable apps, you will need to root. Mind sharing a screenshot of those apps you see now running. Because as [MENTION=2165778]kenkiller[/MENTION] said, Xposed will not do anything if you don't have root.

BTW: You can check Greenify, i read that it now it works with unrooted devices. With this one you can hibernate apps to prevent them to run on the background but keep them in case you use them and after a while the just go to sleep again.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frantic_kr:
Here are my opinions on this tablet. First of all, the only reason why I bought it in a first a place was because of crazy 50% off promotion. But even though i paid less than for example Galaxy Tab Pro, LG G Pad and even Nexus 7 2013 I am still entitled to complain about its performance. First thing I did after booting it was installing Nova Launcher and disabling as much apps as I could. And after a while, I must say it runs pretty ok. Nova is buttery smooth (believe it or not), switching between aps using task switcher occasionally stutter, but scrolling in apps... Its horrible. Facebook, Google play, Google Newstand lags every time. Google plus is the worse, since it loads biggest amount of stuff when scrolling. Sometimes I think is a trade off for that amount of pixels, but hey, why didn't anyone bring up Nexus 10 yet? I think it is a good comparison for this tablet. Same display resolution, running on dual-core Exynos with Mali and running almost perfectly.

I think that disabling S Voice helped a lot. I would also to disable mutliwindow and see how it works.

And how does the display behave on CM? Does it still have those 3 mode (cinema, basic etc) or only default? (But which mode is default?)

For now, I'm pretty content with this tablet and also curious what future update brings. Since it is Samsungs flagship tablet at this moment, I think android L update is mandatory.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uf21:
So is there a way to fix the lag?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmodify:
For browsing smoothly with chrome download the samsung support for chrome and enable experimental java settings.

Disable uneeded apps and greenify others

and wait for lollipop. Lollipop ART changes the response to touchwiz and other apps
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] progrance:
How does the enable experimental java settings work?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmodify:
Dunno but it uses a different way to process java scripts and code so there try it now!
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] progrance:
I mean where are the settings to do this?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] drmodify:
chrome://flags im address bar

look for "Enable Experimental JavaScript"

And enable it restart and see the magic
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] progrance:
Found it... thx
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibecatalin:
After 2 weeks with the Tab S (Exynos version) I must say that coming from and Ipad 4, the Tab S hangs/lags a lot in scrolling, the most noticeable is the Pinterest application, I can't even use it. It ``scratches`` my eyes. Instagram for example is smooth as silk. So I don't think is 100% the Tab S problem. Thos where 2 examples. I can give you more :)
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] md99xx:
I lasted seven weeks with mine. Sold my iPad Air and was horrified with the constant lag/stuttering & crashing/freezing when opening anything from the Play store to Chrome to pretty much all my apps. I rooted it and got shot of most bloatware but it was still lagging. I had a Nexus 7 during the time and that ran rings around the Tab.

I was fortunate that I managed to get most of my outlay back but it proved to be a costly lesson all the same. I'll never bother with Samsung stuff again.

In its favour, the screen was stunning though.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Akopps:
I use Firefox for all web site except those that have to be used with something else. It seems to work ok. No performance issues. Perhaps I don't visit the truly "bad" web sites recently. My personal complaint is that despite the fancy big.LITTLE CPU architecture, the battery life sucks for all uses except playing video.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] methslushee:
the only time i seem to get lag/stuttering is when browsing on the internet, specifically when trying to flick through pages real fast. For chrome, enabling the experimental Java did the trick to make scrolling more smooth on the pages, but with firefox I still see the lag/stutter issue when scrolling real fast and can't find a fix for it currently. Anyone know of a fix for firefox?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vibecatalin:
Is crossing through my mind to sell it and get and Ipad Air. Is very far from smooth. Is not only the Samsung fault, I think Android is not doing well in the tablet area. I have android phones since 2011, and I bought a new one today. I am very very pleased with the phones, but the tablets not so well. Unfortunately the Ipad Air 2 is far more expensive, then the price which I got the Tablet S. So I guess I'll stick with it :). Don't misunderstand me, it is not horrifying, but not quite what I was expect it from it, a lot of laggy/``eye scratching applications``.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TC93:
The interface itself is smooth to me, but it's the Web browsing on certain websites that has the problem. Even this website is lagging due to all the advertising it has and popups. It's like the browser isn't caching to memory even though there is 3gb of memory on the tablet.

The Toshiba Windows 8 tablet I returned was so nice Web browsing with Internet Explorer. I returned it due to its low resolution for a 10" tablet.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TC93:
After trying my other tablets such my nexus 7 2013, and our iPad 2, this Tab S isn't that bad. The other tablets have the same problem. I just didn't notice it as much on a 7 inch screen due to its small size, but it definitely has it also. Our iPad 2 can't even display the entire tmz.com website that I used to test it on.

More than likely I will keep the Tab S.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uf21:
So is iron rom the way to go? I use browser for work and the lag is a real issue. Does iron rom have any issues?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alberto-capo:
I am using iron rom and when I set my cpu on 2000Mhz/performance have no lag on chrome, nothing at all.

The lag and stutter on this tablet is cpu related.
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ltactb:
Didn't want to root my tab, I tried to wipe cache, disable apps(standard way), , factory reset via Settings, replace touchwiz, developer options...

Nothing seemed to get rid of the lag..

..EXCEPT doing a factory reset in recovery mode :D My tablet is now fast & furious. Love it now :good: :good: :good:
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ninjazx6:
and olny with factory reset in recovery mode makes your tab dissapear the lag ?
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I tried to tab s 700 every custom rom. Kitkat, cm, 5.02, 5.1.0, 5.1.1 Best results for lag was with this:

ironrom 1.1.5 (yes kitkat as it is the only one supporting good overclocking right now. When this happens to lolipop, things will be better) , ironkernel, overclocking cpu from 1.9 to 2.1, gpu overclocked from 480 to 733, every setting of Kernel to perfomance mode. (-50mv to all steps, +50mv to steps beyond normal frequency for stability. Stability rock solid. Not a restart never, good temperature, didn't expected but good battery also. Ofcourse this setting might not work well in every device. It is actually abit lucky thing..

Also nova launcher and dolphin browser. So little lag, practically excellent experience. :)
[Galaxy Tab S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Genjay:
So sad this samsung tab s 8.4 lte version exynos that i bought last month it sucks very slow for web surfing and always crashes when i played COC unliked my old model phone, i bought that lte version knowing that it runs on snapdragon.
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[General Topics] uuOuu:
Hey mates, well we always need to share/send file through mobile device, so what application you use in high frequency?

To me:

WeChat -> send pictures to friends

Bluetooth -> send file to friends/phones

P.S. I want to know more about the way how a file get into mobile, and do better work at file management. Please do help. :)
[General Topics] EdVel:
I'm usually send pictures and music through WhatsApp, but in my opinion a good way is Dropbox, because through WhatsApp, the audio files doesn't keep the original name and most people don't manage the files in the SDcard as well as the people who are used to be "geek", if you know what I mean, hehehe
[General Topics] Karlibri:
I send files with SuperBeam or I upload them to box.com
[General Topics] m9j_cfALt:
i use superbeam.

to extract installed apps, i use ES fileManager.
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
I use MEGA and Whatsapp or Telegram or Gmail ;)
[General Topics] nide_2:
Mega for me
[General Topics] uuOuu:
Will you guys save files sent by WhatsApp from friends, like picture?
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Only pictures and music using whatsapp and docs and other file extensions using MEGA ;)
[General Topics] uuOuu:
you take MEGA for their encryption?
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
No I don't :p why?

Sent through my beastly SM-T320 using Tapatalk 4
[General Topics] tpgugezhanghu:
WhatsApp useful
[General Topics] s2g007:
use telegram , file transfer , superbeam pro app
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Telegram for movies

Sent through my Galaxy Note using Tapatalk 4
[General Topics] Delvator:
using whatapp for send pic

and bluethooth if a good condition :D
[General Topics] Stuart Little:
Dropbox for photos

Sent through my Galaxy Note using Tapatalk 4
[General Topics] AS16:
Whatsapp's the most easy tool, but if we're talking about cloud storage, I use Mega, it has a lot of space (50Gb) and it's absolutely private
[General Topics] springning:
I use WeChat and QQ
[General Topics] uuOuu:
Tried, and we find out something good, so here you can see new improvements in our product, the Download Manager part.
[General Topics] vincent_1234:
Would be nice if you could send full res photos on whatsapp, but that is never gonna happen. Hopefully Telegram will support this in the future?
[General Topics] shinink:
Well i use whatsapp for img transfer and box/dropbox for file transfer!Secure and safe!
[General Topics] Rockytop00:
Google Drive
[General Topics] digitalguru:
I use Dropbox all the time!