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[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I have a question for the F460 owners. I had a F400S until I dropped it off my balcony (I can be clumbsy) so I decided to just get a D850 replace it. I'm not a fan of losing the qi and I really liked my Korean model, is the F460 worth it over the F400? Also have any of you found a qi back for it? I would really like the SD805 but I also want qi. The cheapest I have found the F460 for is about 700$ which is $100 more than the F400. It's not a big difference but if I'm spending the extra money j want to make sure I'm getting a better phone. (Yes this will be my 3rd G3 and I have a problem :D ... )I love the G3
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Why buy a less powerful model if you don't have to..even if the 805 version isnt leaps and bounds better than the 801 its still better.

Buy another f460.

sent from Canada via my Note 3, Note 2 or One X +
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I haven't had a F460, I have only had the F400, and D850. I am trying to get a quick circle case with NY F460 I'm buying so I can also get qi I'm just waiting on the seller to respond. I guess having 2 G3's is never a bad thing unless someone wants to buy my old one.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
Ah my bad, misread your post.

My thoughts are the same though lol.

Tell me, what did you prefer about the f400 over the d850 other than Qi?

sent from Canada via my Note 3, Note 2 or One X +
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
The F400 had features that the US models remove such as:

Call recording without root

No carrier IQ

Overall animation were more smooth

Updates (I received 3 in the 3 weeks I had it before I broke it)

The list can go on, but Korean models are always better. The Korean ones also come with headphones LG Quad beats, a spare battery and charger so that's worth it right there. I still have my spare battery, charger and headphones and I'm glad that I do. If I get the F460 I'll have 2 phones and 4 batteries so you can't go wrong there.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I just ordered my F460S with the Q-Circke case that has qi for it. I got the seller to include it for almost nothing and it was free shipping I'll post an update with the case when it gets here. I bought a gold one because its awesome.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
The contact points for Qi on the back are different between the regular and Cat 6 versions. Be sure they're sending you the right one.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
The seller confirmed it was made for the cat 6 G3 we will see when it gets here.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Ok cool
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jema68:
So, got both the wireless charging sticker for the G3 and the Circle Cover for the Cat6. LG really did a great job, I have 3 G3 all are different. One F400, D855 and F460. Every phone has different charging contacts. The stickers i got fit the 855 but it has already Qi charging from stock. So I just changed the sticker from the 460 with the Circle cover and I have now wireless charging on it and the original back cover. A bit complicated but I have what I was looking for.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lossah:
What's your experience regarding smoothness? Can you actually notice a difference with a blindtest? :P Does it also lag in LG phone settings like someone else mentioned?

Im not sure if I'm gonna sell my G3 and buy a cat 6, tho it's also alot of wasted money. Around 200$.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Mine is extremely fast. No settings lag at all. Running Dalvik (because ART caused poor battery life and other issues on the current 10F firmware), it's just about on par with my M8 GPE on ART.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I just got mine today with the qi q-circle for the cat 6
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Nice! I've seen a lot of people go for the gold Cat.6, however I really like my white one ;)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I don't like white phones and since my other 2 G3's were black, I figured gold is a good change and its the "prime" so good is suiting
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jazzypit:
i search the q-circle for the cat 6. where are you find it ?

thanks for answer.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I asked the seller who I bought from phone from if they had one. I haven't seen it posted separately online.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jazzypit:
I found it on gmarket . global.gmarket.co.kr . send worldwide

Envoyé de mon LG-F460S en utilisant Tapatalk
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jema68:
11street. Online Shop in Korea
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I just ordered a slim guard case for the cat 6 in black. I'll post pictures when it gets here.

This is why I love Korean models :) accessories FTW

Also there's a picture of the qi coil I removed from the circle case.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Have any other F460 owners noticed their battery life being worse than the regular G3? I may need to see if I have a rogue app running and killing my battery but it dropped 25% in 3hrs on standby.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NessunoComeNissa:
Is it possible to replace this stupid Kweather Smart Notice by Accuweather one ?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jema68:
Have F400 and D855 the F460 is the same, was hoping the new processor is saving energy but I guess the screen is the main consumer.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
All I know is on the 460K ART is quite bad (on the latest 10f firmware). Battery life sucks, it gets hot, and with the screen off it's glitched up and doesn't accept presses of the lock button half the time (music playback also gets super glitchy with the screen off).

Dalvik is really nice though, so if anyone's had problems with what I said above, try switching to it.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I'm using dalvik on the F460S and its the same as my D850 or F400S in terms of stability with the exception of the one random shutdown I had. My benchmarks are sub 30k which doesnt make any sense because my D850 hit 42k on antutu. The phone is snappier but the benchmarks are stupid. I still love this phone more than my other two G3's
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I said ART was unstable, not Dalvik. I've had no problems at all with Dalvik, and I said that haha
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I misread your post, I haven't tried ART on this one yet because I use xposed.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Ah I understand :P
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
There was an update on my F460S today (3rd OTA since I got it), to version V10i. Here are some screenshots of the improvements.

Edit for some reason it upload multiples of the same screenshots.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Here are the improvements
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Wow I only got one update in the past 2 weeks since I got it, and it was a minor one. Don't know why Olleh is so slow with the updates.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I had two updates out of the box and then I got that v10i yesterday.

Edit

I forgot to mention that my phone was rooted and still took the OTA. I was surprised that it actually worked.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I just got updated to 10i. Got 10f out of the box on August 18, got this on September 2nd. Going back over to ART now to see how it is.

---------- Post added at 07:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:09 AM ----------

Nope. Same problems. Back to Dalvik, most likely until a 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 update.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMJI79:
Hi,

I have read all the posts, their weren't a clear post about the possibility of finding the hidden menu to get rid of lag like those with s801 do?

Also my question to owners of the F460 would be: what things CANNOT be done on the F460 that can be done on the s801 versions? (Root, xposed frameworks, gravity box, tweakbox, custom ROMs, Android L upgrade, etc...)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I haven't been able to find the hidden menu on mine, no. I can access some form of hidden menu (through the dialer), but it doesn't give me much more than network settings.

Also, we can root (even take OTAs while rooted according to many), but beyond that I'm not sure.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dolgogi:
Are there any new/different themes on the Korean variants?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
As far as preloaded themes no, however the LG Smart World has a huge amount of then (more than the US one I believe)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dolgogi:
Cheers
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Alright guys so I am able to access both the service menu and hidden menu. Here are the dialer codes for both on all F460 models:

3845#*460#=Hidden Menu

5457#*460#=Service Menu
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkLord7:
Root

HI folks. Feel free to judge me, but I am an Android newbie. I have always been a specs junkie so I have ordered an F460s today.

I have been observing you folks talking of rooting and how its working so well for you. Can someone throw in some light about how to go by it and what am I to gain ?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
The only root that worked on my F460S was StumpRoot so I would give that one a try. If you want qi I would get the circle case for the "cat 6" model because the pin config is different than the F400.

Rooting took maybe 3-4 minutes using StumpRoot it was simple. I recommend titanium backup to freeze all of the bloatware and do a backup if you want to uninstall anything.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkLord7:
How does one remove all bloatware ?

Have you been able to install OS version of your native country ?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I use titanium backup to remove all of the bloat. First I backup everything, then I freeze what I don't use any I don't uninstall anything because when I get a OTA its easier than reflashing back to stock.

I like the Korean ROM to be honest, it has a lot of good things that the US ones lack such as: (call recording standard, wifi hotspot, sync optimization, wireless storage option etc...)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkLord7:
Thanks for the info mate. I will be using it in India and its my first Droid so I'm psyched and curious at the same time.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] homer285:
Could you please confirm the 3G frequencies available in the 460 model please?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Here are screen shots of all of the bands on the F460S
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMJI79:
Does the Korean F460 have any lag after doing the hidden menu tweak? Especially compared to a Nexus?

As of today does the F460 lack anything compared to the international 801 versions? Is it all profit?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
It's 100% profit ;)

No lag that I can feel either, and I'm on Dalvik.

It's faster and more fluid than my M8 GPE on ART, and that's a tough thing to do.

I haven't needed to do any hidden menu tweaks either.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMJI79:
Seems I am gonna buy one... :)

What is GPE for my information?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
GPE is Google Play Edition and I agree the F460 is extremely fluid. My wife's s5 lags compared to this as does my nexus.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] force70:
If only the bootloader wasnt locked, this would easily be the best device on the market right now.

sent from Canada via my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] homer285:
Thats very interesting thanks for doing that.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
No problem, it's good to see it on a phone rather than read about it and not know.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMJI79:
What about battery life on the cat 6? Is it possible to stand the day with a heavy usage?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
My 2014 Moto X is coming on Monday, and I may be selling my G3 Cat.6 because of it.

Not that it's bad in any way, I just wanna try something different. I highly recommend it to anyone in the market for an Android phone and has the money to import it ;)

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Oh, and [MENTION=5581268]Pilz[/MENTION], how much SOT do you get per charge, and what are your brightness settings?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I'm selling my spare G3 but I'm picking up a Z3 compact as a backup phone. My daily driver will still be my F460S I love this phone.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] homer285:
I havent seen the cdma 850MHz spectrum specified anywhere else, so that is interesting and had I known that a few weeks ago I may not have switched carriers.

Any way I doubt the slightly increased CPU & GPU makes much if any noticeable difference, I have atm amazing battery life and no lag on D855 so Im happy for now.

Cheers again
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMJI79:
To sum up what did you do to make it faster?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
All I've done is turn animations off.

Well I guess I uninstalled all the Korean preinstalled apps, but you don't even need root to do that so it's quite easy.

It doesn't really need anything to speed it up in all honesty :D
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I did the same thing, I also used titanium to freeze stuff that I don't use because I hate clutter on a phone. My mom got herself a G3 (she's in her 50's) and thinks it's leaps and bounds faster than any Samsung she's had (she came from the S4).

Root isn't necessary on this phone but I like to tinker with things and break my phone on occasion for the greater good. One the BL unlock comes I'm sure we will get an AOSP ROM which will make this phone even faster if that's possible. I used the Note 4 today at bestbuy and o wasn't impressed. It's like a metal wrapped note 3 and it still stutters with the 805 which is sad. I think the G3 Cat 6 is well worth the money ($~6-650 on eBay currently) which is 75$-200 less than the note 4 with the same specs and a laser.

Now that I have sufficiently gone off topic the S model which is SKT (South Korea Telecom) has more bloat than a Verizon phone but you can disable 99% of it. I'll attach some screen shots below of what it looks like out of the box (I had to re-flash back to stock after a soft brick last week) do I figured I would take arrive screen shots in case I needed them. If you root you can uninstall the remaining 3-4 but it's not a big deal and there's obviously no ciq.

Also I would definitely disable McAfee immediately because it's caused issues for people in the past. StumpRoot does work as mentioned before if you want to root as you can see below. You do need to use brute force but it only takes at most 30s.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Unfortunately, McAfee can't be disabled on my phone without root.

But I'm definitely on the verge of rooting, cuz there really isn't too much to lose.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Well, I finally caved and rooted my phone.

Thank god for AdAway, now I can actually browse the web!
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buqqii:
Present the same settings, but I can not connect to LTE.(Only 3G). Which are you using line?(A&TT ? T-MOBILE ? ) Where do you live in USA ?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I have Att the LTE doesn't work on T-Mobile's penta bands as far as I know. It does work on Att because I have LTE right now but you need to see what bands your carrier has for LTE, 4G, 3G etc... and compare it the phones bands that I posted if you have the S model (F460S).
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buqqii:
I also used Att. But it didn't connect LTE. I have F460S.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
You should be getting LTE, if it matters for location I'm in the North Eastern US. Have you tried getting a new sim card? I has an issue with my old Sim card (but it didn't work at all) so I had it replaced and it works great. Also did you check the settings in the hidden menu and in the system menu. I'll attach screenshots below.

Goto the dialer and input 5457#*460# to access the menu shown below.

Here are my settings for the bands:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Buqqii:
All same settings. I can not LTE.:(
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I would try a new Sim card then. There's no other reason why it shouldn't worry unless att isn't using the same bands where you are.

Also I just updated to V10j

The only thing I noticed that's different is the powered by reply android logo when you reboot. I was rooted when I took this OTA as well. I started a screen recording before I hit update but it must have corrupted when it rebooted. I took screenshots of the process below. I had to re-enable xposed and all of my root apps after the OTA but it still worked while rooted. This is now the second time I've taken an OTA while rooted so maybe it will work for others.

Also if you don't believe that I was rooted when I took this here is a screenshot of the rct tool showing the date of the root. (I had to flash back to stock on Thursday because I bricked my phone but I'm still rooted after this OTA )
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
CHECK YOUR APN SETTINGS!!

They should be as follows:
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Well I just received the v10j update tonight and it installed no problem even though I'm rooted via Stump Root. Even maintained root access at the end!

So that makes 2 of us rooted F460 folks installing OTAs. Awesome!

I'm yet to try ART and see if it got better, will update once I have.

UPDATE: ART is still just as broken as before... So much for being optimistic :P
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I'm also rooted via stump and I'm glad I'm not the only one who applied an OTA with root, I just had to re-enable xposed but root stayed intact here as well.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I just realized that I never answer the SOT question you asked. I usually get 4-5 hours of SOT with auto brightness between 0-25%.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Thanks! That's pretty darn good. I need a bright screen, so my autobrightness is always at 100%. I could barely squeeze out 3 hours before the 10j update, but it feels a little better now. Today is my first full day on the update, so I'll see if it changes (sure hope it does :P).
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lossah:
Its the same as 801 G3 at least. :P But yeah it's because of the screen. I get usually 5-6h with 60% without auto. Tho I'm mostly just surfing the web.

I'm a little interested in a cat 6 but I don't think the lag in UI will disappear tbh. I've not seen one single SMOOTH G3 except one that used aosp rom. And that was a 801.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Mine is very smooth for the most part I can take a video of some on screen stuff and upload one later if you like. The SOT is about the same as my SD801 G3. I use nova and I have a lot of different xposed mods running so that likely slows things down compared to just a stock setup. An AOSP ROM on the SD805 would be a beast.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lossah:
Would love a video. Recording via camera would be optimal I guess. In LG settings/browser/home button, that's where mine lags most. :p Thanks! :)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I have an app that I use with root to record so its easier. I'm doing some studying for my midterms (really busy week) but ull upload it either tonight or tomorrow if I can. I'll enable the show touches so you can see what I touch and any delay in a app launching.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I tried to open some apps that take a while like YouTube and maps, and then I went through some others and the menus.

Here is the link let me know what you think. Its not perfectly smooth but it's good in my opinion.

LG G3 F460S test XDA: http://youtu.be/OnSSAv6DKH8
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BobaL:
Hi,

I'm french and I would like to buy a G3 F460 :) in Korea !

The LTE frequency of my telecom company is LTE2600.

So it seems to be good for the phone.

Could you tell me if I can remove default Korean applications?

Any idea of other nasty thing to know before to buy this phone and to use it in France (and in french)?

Thank you
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
You can remove or disable all korean apps except for 1 or 3, but a quick root then you can get rid of them. Other than that I don't see any issues assuming you checked your bands with the ones I posted earlier.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lossah:
It seems about the same as my phone. Maybe a little quicker. :P You're rooted, running Dalvik? Something else? Trickstermod?
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Yeah I'm rooted running dalvik and xposed. I just re-downloaded trickster mod this morning j haven't used it in a while because it was causing my phone to crash. I don't think it was running because I did that video last night. I also don't use animations because I don't like them on this phone. I'm also using Nova launcher which is already very smooth plus as you can see I have a lot of root apps that I use not including those in my xposed module. I don't think my phone is exceptionally smooth but it is definitely better than most phones and faster than the note 4 I used the other day.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NessunoComeNissa:
Hum, where to get TOT and DLL (or KDZ whatever) for 460S ?

I'm stuck with v460F and can't OTA because I've delete all those stupids bloatwares with Titaniup but without making a backup (obviously ...).

So, I need to go back to stock but I can't find what I need to do it.

Any link ? Thanks :)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
Another member posted them but here they are for you. Its v10i so you should get the update to v10j once you flash it. Also make sure you back everything up because flashing will wipe everything.

Let me know if the link doesn't work

https://mega.co.nz/#F!N1BSmbBZ!4TgHouTCkdKlRnYKWl2KIg
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NessunoComeNissa:
Thanks, you rock :good: I'll look at those files.

Plus, the bonus question of the day :

Is it possible to remove Kweather and to replace it by Accuweather ? It doesn't recognize my city with GPS and can only get weather from towns which are 50 kilometers away ...

So, If it's possible I'm really interested :)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pilz:
I don't know, I never use any weather apps.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EMJI79:
Hi,

I wanna buy this extended battery for lg g3, I supposed that it would work for f460 but then I am not sure:

http://mugen.co/mugen-power-6200mah-extended-battery-for-lg-g3-with-battery-door.html
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DarkLord7:
I thought rooting was a must for removing all the Korean bloatware. Please tell me the options. I believe I will root it soon anyways. I receive my F460 tomorrow so I am very psyched.

Also I've been reading you guys talking about this Xposed module. What is it for ?

Lastly, this is my first droid. Any resource or website you guys would recommend to be updated with latest apps and new open source rooted apps (I guess these would only work on a rooted device. Correct me if I am wrong)