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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
It's not Verizon, it's just the phones. Every flagship is 2.3 ghz or more with at least 2 gb of ram. Difference is noticeable, and the higher power actually makes the phones run much more efficiently. I literally have everything running on this phone and I run it pretty hard, get at least 5 hours of on screen time before I need a charge, and the battery is only 2500 mah. To me, 2.3 ghz or more in a phone is insane. It has more power than my macbook pro.

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It wasn't even a real method, just a security exploit talk. The only phone he was able to unlock was the moto x. Regardless it's still a vulnerability in the bootloader. The same concept could definitely be applied to other phones.

A Loki-like exploit is certainly a possibility, a lot of high level devs really want to get Samsung phones unlocked.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Well that's good to hear. I do like the HTC phones I just don't get why they went away from having external SD

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
M8 does have an external SD card.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] astonmartin214:
yes I might have to get me the G2 Vzw I have the s3 & the locked BL can't stand it need my ROMS & features
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Ohhhh, even better. Hope by June next year that or the M9 is available

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
I have to have root to slap the ugly off the UIs. :p:cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ryanallaire:
There is a way to go back to 4.1.2 with an unlocked bootloader, but it costs like 50 bucks. Im looking for the link now...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
This is what your looking for

http://mobiletechvideos.com/

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ryanallaire:
Yup that's the one, i would do it but i don't want to ship my phone out...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] astonmartin214:
well you truly want to be stuck on 4.4.2 then I would do it if I had the money cause I know what I'll be getting back unlocked BL & custom ROM heaven
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] krustybaguette:
safestrap...for the time being.

There IS a safestrap (or at least there was when I took the 4.3 OTA on my VZ S3. However, if all you can run is a variation of stock ROM, what's the point? I just rooted and used TIBU to freeze all the bloat that I did not want to be reminded about "updating."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
As long as those same people didn't update to 4.4 they have more choices. If they did however they were limited on 4.4

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] verisof:
So how does Knox WORK?

Like another poster I noted in another thread, I claimed another S3 from Verizon to replace my one with a shattered screen. It was also starting to slow down from what I think was overheating.

The original S3 was rooted and I've been running Omnirom 4.4.2 on it since December. I should say that I've been comfortable with rooting my phone, but am not a linux dev by any stretch of the imagination.

This is crucial to me since I am one of the few remaining Verizon users on an unlimited data plan, so my phone has pretty much been my high speed internet. (Attached to the network with a network bridge.) The manager at the Verizon store locally has winked at me re the rooting and told me to hang on to the unlimited plan. That I'm what they call a "pink unicorn" around that store.

I've gotten the new phone and ran headlong into the whole KNOX lockdown. I've pretty much screwed up booting into recovery since I tried to install TWRP the same way I had with the previous phone. I haven't tried to go back to recovery since, but got a message that I needed to take my phone back to Verizon. However, it appears to boot up nicely into the primary ROM and I've achieved root with towelroot.

I've read enough of the forums to get that neither towelroot or saferoot will really let you run a custom rom. In fact, to get my wifi hotspot back, I've had to resort to a third party app.

I have found the Verizon 4.4.2 rom to be SEVERELY laggy. And I keep getting messages that towelroot is sapping large chunks of my CPU power, as well as draining the battery faster than anything.

Can someone PLEASE explain to me how the KNOX security manages to lockdown the bootloader? I've found snatches of discussions about this, but nothing really straightforward. I haven't really grasped the whole "fuse" thing or "slot 1", etc.

Is there anyway I can completely wipe the ROM from the new phone and transplant a nandroid from the previous phone (which I still have for another 7 days) to get my custom modding ability back? My understanding is that KNOX uses 128K bit encryption, which means it is essentially unbreakable.

Barring all of that, is it worth taking the innards out of my OLD phone and putting them into the new one before I send the old one back?

And finally, is this something Verizon is going to be putting on all of their future Samsung devices? Because it is certainly enough to dissuade me from ever buying another Samsung device.

If this is in the wrong forum, then please move it to the appropriate one and let me know.

Thanks in advance. . . .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Pretty much future wise yes all phones will pretty much be locked down, with the locked bootloader you can't flash a custom recovery other than safestrap. If you want to achieve an unlocked bootloader your only source and best bet is mobiletechvideos, they will do a JTAG service and revert the bootloader back to the previously unlocked version on 4.1.2.

[MENTION=5181150]BadUsername[/MENTION] you've read more on the reason why it's locked down man, I don't know enough about it to explain it in detail

From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
If you feel comfortable swapping your motherboard then that might actually work. But if your phone is actually showing a decrease in performance you would likely have the same issues.

There is a 4.4.2 rom available that does have native tethering enabled, I think it's the paulpizz one. Not much in terms of customization, but it is debloated with native tethering enabled. Has to be better than stock.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] verisof:
But how does KNOX work?

I'm sure that native tethering works well (I'm assuming you mean actual tethering through USB connection), but my wireless bridge doesn't work with a tether. That means I can't use the phone to provide internet service to the rest of my network.

My real question is how KNOX actually works. I've been reading a lot of articles on it, but haven't found a concise high-level description of the mechanism of operation. I don't understand how it can completely lock down your phone when you should be able to, in theory, completely blank the flash memory that is the ROM, repartition it, and then lay down your own images on those various partitions. Can someone please explain to me what I am missing here? I mean, a hard drive can be encrypted to prevent you from getting data off it, for instance. But you can also blank it at anytime with the understanding that you'll never get that data off. The only caveat I can think of is if there is some hardware mechanism to prevent this from happening. And since KNOX was enabled via an OTA update, I don't see how additional hardware could have been installed to ensure that the bootloader is locked down.

Also, I read an article that says that Verizon is planning on getting rid of the grandfathered unlimited data plans that they have out there. Has anyone else heard anything else to that effect, or what the timeline would be for that to happen?

Thanks in advance. And thanks for the responses.

--Andrew
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
They've been trying to do that since they got rid of unlimited data (former unlimited data user here) but they have been unsuccessful. The FCC has taken notice but verizon just ignored them, basically they were throttling those users who are still on unlimited data. I don't think those people who have it are going anywhere anytime soon. They pay full price for there devices and should indeed be allowed to keep it

From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jager420:
Safestrap is no longer supported by the developer. He's took a New job and needs to focus on that..just wait for a flagship on Verizon to get unlocked boot loader and buy that phone..most phones coming out of Verizon are locked down pretty good
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Good luck with that, I'm highly doubting it will happen in the future. Verizon has been locking down nearly every phone, especially the new ones

From my S3 on Wicked 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jon7701:
I use a xposed module called X tether in xposed installer. It will allow you to use the native hotspot along with Bluetooth tethering on touchwiz 4.4.2. Im also pretty sure you can uninstall the towelroot app once you get root since i dont think root is dependent on the app.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jager420:
My Verizon LG G3 has a unlocked boot loader...plus the nexus 6 will be released on Verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Well hell has frozen over finally and we are getting a Nexus. How exactly is the LG G3 bootloader unlocked? That's news to me

Edit: nevermind, I just read that the bootloader unlock was released for the LG G3 about a week or so ago. That's a great thing for sure

From my Wicked S3 on SOKP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Credrili:
I'm pretty sure the Nexus 6 will have a locked boot loader but I'm probably going to buy it off contract and upgrade from my aging S3.

(If the G3 was able to be boot unlocked, here's hoping the Nexus 6 will be unlocked)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
I'm not sure that's correct, as far as I know there hasn't been a locked Nexus device yet

From my CM11 S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Credrili:
I meant to say on Verizon it'll probably be locked. No one expected Google to have a $650 phone either.

I'm most likely going to upgrade to it if the reviews are promising.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
If it is locked it'll likely be easily unlocked though, Verizon can't do much without the manufacturer agreeing to programming. It's certainly possible Google simply won't cooperate with them.

I'm just not sure if Motorola has any say on if the phone gets locked or not. If Verizon gets Motorola to lock the phone down, you can probably kiss an unlocked bootloader goodbye. Especially if other carriers have unlocked nexus 6'. It all depends how the phone is secured on the bootloader level and what boot process is implemented.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Credrili:
From what I understand after reading several things online is that if Verizon does get what they want, users may simply purchase the N6 from the play store and activate it on Verizon themselves (unless Verizon blocks serial numbers or something).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
I was going to point that out, that's exactly what I would do in that situation. Assuming you're going to drop $650 on the phone anyway

But you'd have to hope that the other models are CDMA compatible, and that wouldn't allow you to get a carrier discount (obviously). To me I'd still take the M8 anyday, unless you're specifically looking for a larger screen. $99 on contact to is a lot cheaper than paying $650 off contact for a great device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Credrili:
I would go with a subsidized phone if Big Red wouldn't take away my unlimited data. The M8 is nice but I've been craving a true AOSP phone with latest updates. Tired of the laggy TouchTrash.. my phone is even starting to bork on Bluetooth Audio - I blame the bogged down Kitkat that Samsung pushed.

I will have to try the Nexus out in the store though first - 6" just may be too much for me. I prefer a belt holster for my phones, maybe its size will be a problem with that as well? Hoping for good reviews on the battery too, as I won't be able to use a ZeroLemon like I can on my S3. And of course no external SD card -- forcing me to choose the 64GB model at $700 even. Definitely getting a SquareTrade.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
I think all those reasons are great, I think if you holster it the 6" size is pretty manageable. The battery life, speed and overall satisfaction with the device will be great. I think it sounds like a perfect option for what you're looking to use it for.

Just a heads up though, the way htc implements sense works very well. They have very useful features and the UI is just as slick as AOSP. I'm usually a fan of stock roms regardless, but when the vast majority of htc users run sense roms instead of aosp roms, I think it simply shows how fast and responsive sense is. It's the best android skin I've used, and I prefer it to a Nexus like experience because of how well htc did with its implementation. I absolutely hate touchwiz on the S5, it simply ruined the phone for me the first time I used it in the store.

If the nexus 6 isn't for you, at least try the m8 out. The fact that it can be unlocked and has expandable storage makes it amazing regardless.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
I'm now seriously considering the N6 based on a few factors. I've wanted a nexus device since I had my thunderbolt and tab 2 7.0. I love the S3 and don't get me wrong the M8 is a solid device. The only store that had a working one and not a dummy one was target surprisingly

After awhile I got use to sense but I did love the ease of use overall, I haven't played with sense since version 3.6 which was a horrible way for the thunderbolt to go out but none the less it did suffer the fate of being forever stuck on ICS but it finally made it that far

From my CM11 S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
I had sense 2 with my incredible and didn't really care for it, I'd say sense 3-5 were all pretty bad or a step in the wrong direction. Sense 6 is really a different interface, really toned down all their animations and UI elements. Dummy units are absolutely useless, that frustrates me that only 1 store near you has working units. I'm sure it's like that with every device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Yea Walmart is one of those that has no working devices. Well no I take that back they have 3 working ones but they put them under a glass case. That's great that sense 6 is better. They had the M8 at target like I said but it was stuck on the boot screen I think it was. The one where it says whether it's s off or s on. I couldn't get the damn thing out of that loop so I gave up. My gf thought I broke it

From my CM11 S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
Try to get your hands on a working one first, and play some music on it full blast, then I'd feel comfortable with you choosing the nexus 6 if you aren't swayed yet.

Anyone want to buy me a Nexus 9 for Christmas?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Yea its finding a working one first. The one feature I think is just a million dollar idea by HTC is the speakers facing the front instead of like every other device being in the back.

Do you have a tablet? I seen the prices on the nexus 9 and so far I'm not impressed

From my CM11 S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
How expensive? Probably around $400 I'd guess. Do you have a best buy or Verizon store anywhere near you?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Verizon is the closer one, i barely ever go there but I might just as the time gets closer. Yea I'm almost certain the nexus 9 will be right around that price

From my CM11 S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] James R Rhodes:
You are missing something, unless you are on the 4.3 locked bootloader , there is a 4.4.2 beta safestrap but no official build and very few ROMs.

Ah yes this program I am also very fond of.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
Old news, but a good company.

Lots of people would like to know it officially works. I'm sure they'd appreciate a post with your results.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] LLStarks:
It'll only work if the company knows what they are doing.

They'd need to JTAG the entire MF1 firmware chain to the device and then Odin it to a 4.1 rom or something.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] santanac:
I read a couple of reviews from xda members, some have had luck, others bad experiences. I sent them my s3 last monday, even though i was still little skeptical about their reliability. According to the tracking number it was already delivered to them but the order status has not changed on their website, if i still don't see any changes by tomorrow morning, i'm going to give them a call and we'll see what happens
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Gabe1021:
Mobile Tech Videos

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I'm in the same situation. The USPS tracking number shows it's been delivered to the address but the order status is still listed as awaiting shipment. My guess right now is that this is a very small business operation and that Josh, the person I shipped my phone to, is trying to get caught up with the shipments he's been receiving. I'll stay optimistic at this point and hope for the best. But I'll be calling Mobile Tech Videos on Monday.

UPDATE:

From my overall personal experience I can state that I have nothing to complain about regarding my service with Mobile Tech Videos.

My Verizon Galaxy S3 is now rooted and I am running CyanogenMod 10.2.1.

I paid Mobile Tech Videos to unlock the bootloader and install the ROM and I'm perfectly happy with my S3 now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] LLStarks:
I'm curious as to whether this would work with Knox tripped and the efuse/qfuse/whatever blown

The efuse should be one-way and permanent, but if the boot chain is downgraded, the Odin screen would never show it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
Even if it's blown, you could always reroute the boot chain through another fuse, processor has more than one and only uses one at a time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jayjr1105:
So being that everyone with a VZW GS3 is likely ready to upgrade anyway, what is the hot new phone to get that's already been cracked or with an unlocked bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
G3 and the M8 have both been unlocked

From my CM11 S3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fabbari:
What about using SD card recovery and flash 4.1 back?

I was thinking about overwriting the bootloader by using an older bootloader in the SD card, then power on in download mode using the SD card bootloader and flash a stock 4.1. Wouldn't that bypass the locked bootloader?

With a bit more detail:

- Prepare the SD card with GT_I9300_unbrick_sdcard_head.bin

- Pop in the SD card

- Short R313 as per Galaxy S3(GT-I9300#) JTAG guide

- Eventually use a USB Jig (Pins 4 and 5 shorted with 300K resistor) - not sure it's needed

- This should boot from the SD card and enter download mode

- Use Odin to flash a 4.1 stock ROM - overwriting the 4.4.2 bootloader with an older one

I'm going to try it this W/E - an let you know how it goes, just wanted to know if there was some reason I'm not seeing why this wouldn't work in theory.

my 2€c

Fabbari
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] LLStarks:
That won't work since it's for the i9300, not the i535 which has different circuitry

You will brick
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 6Binford:
MobileTechVideos bootloader downgrade

At this point, I would recommend them. I was on stock 4.4.2. I asked for the boot loader downgrade and for them to install CyanogenMod. I've only had it back for 2 days, but so far, so good. I didn't use the 'express delivery' option, so it did take a while, 15 days from the time I dropped it off at the post office until I got it back. That was painful because I used a backup dumb phone that had keypad issues. Anyway, the boot loader downgrade did work for me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] afaneh92:
Dont try to boot from the sdcard the cpu check for on emmc bootloder then skip.

you need a softbricked bootloader but wont boot from sd card.

dont brick your board trying unlock it I did before and replaced the board.

We are stuck on this bootloader until we got a pached kernel or recovery you need reversed engineering mind.

and alote of hard work hours dont wast your time and device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Gabe1021:
Mobile Tech Videos - service for Verizon Galaxy S3

From my personal experience I can state that I have nothing to complain about regarding my service with Mobile Tech Videos.

My Verizon Galaxy S3 is now rooted and I am running CyanogenMod 10.2.1.

I paid Mobile Tech Videos to unlock the bootloader and install the ROM and I'm perfectly happy with my S3 now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] coldtoon:
let's see use a Download-Mode-Jig modded to ignore vzw's boot loader rules and wipe the boot loader?

or use these two http://www.androidayos.com/2014/07/...xy-s3-i535-4-4-2-kitkat-ota-update-towelroot/ and http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2605648 with CMod?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DevilDog512:
First off I want to think Gharrington and Pas2001 for this amazing Mod and the excellent support they are giving for it. Top notch guys and all class. Head over here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2799958 to download the app and make damn sure you give thanks. It'll come with smali files that you won't need. Just install the app as a regular app. YOU MUST INSTALL THE APP FIRST OR YOU WILL GET FC ERRORS. I'm not responsible for any damage or terrible things you may do to your phone. I will however accept credit for any good things that may happen in your life. [emoji12]

!!!UPDATE!!!

I have remade this with the latest updates for the battery mod. You should only need to flash this. It should and the key word is should put the updated batterymod app in your data/app partition. BACKUP YOUR PHONE FIRST!!! Can not stress this enough. You have 0 to lose if you backup your phone. You can always go back. This zip has been used on other roms successfully so it ought to work on this one. I just haven't tested it. So let me know so I can update this. This includes the quicklaunch as well. I'll make another without that after I can confirm the zip works. Then I'll make one for sacs v4 as well. Thanks.

3minit should work on aosp roms as well so if you'd like it on the one your running let me know. I'll need your framework.res and your systemui.apk in order to make the necessary changes.

VisionX Flashable 3minit Battery&Quicklaunch: https://www.dropbox.com/s/v33z2vpbpgtrqgb/3minit_Battery_Quicklaunch.zip?dl=0

VisionX Flashable 3minit Battery Only: Coming Soon!

Sacs NC5 V4: Coming Soon!

MOAR: See cerj excellent themes here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2809855

He has an unthemed one along with both options of with quicklaunch and without. See post #241.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DevilDog512:
0644 permission looks like this;
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] seVIIn7:
[MENTION=5537808]DevilDog512[/MENTION], thank you
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DevilDog512:
Can you confirm its working? It worked for me but 1 person said it was giving him problems.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DevilDog512:
As I was. It was user error so I can confirm if works.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] tugas2khas:
Can i use this on XXUFNF4 ?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DevilDog512:
No clue. You can send me your systemui. Apk, framework.res, and twframework. Res and I'll hook it up for you.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] cerj:
Your the man Dd.. Good work
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] sniperkill:
The link in the OP is dead and it takes you to a page that says the file has been deleted or moved. Does anyone else have a mirror or a copy of this modded systemUI that I can download, please?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DevilDog512:
My bad. Must've done while preparing MOAR. If you'll pull the systemui.apk, twframework.res, and framework.res from your rom (must be the ones from the actual rom zip and not from your system) and upload them I'll hook you up. Found in /system/framework/ .....