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[Droid Ultra General] nemoman:
I have a Droid Mini with 4.2.2 system 12.15.15. I have used the Sunshine boot loader unlock app and it is rooted, thanks a bunch jcase! I have also installed openrecovery-twrp-2.8.1.0-ghost.

I have read through this wonderful thread and I am looking for some update advice.

One my main goals is to be able to tether. I am planning my update to 4.4.4. Should I protect root with some type of survival? Should I load something to gain tethering before or after the update? Does anyone have experience with the new 23.3.24 that Verizon started pushing out about ten days ago?
[Droid Ultra General] asuhoops8628:
once BL Unlocked all you have to do is flash TWRP boot into recovery and let it handle installing the superuser binary on first boot. Boot to android and install supersu from play store
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Can believe this @#**& posted that on a moto site https://forums.motorola.com/posts/7843d0dfb7
[Droid Ultra General] HampTheToker:
Definitely a dumb thing to do, but he does have a point regarding pretending that Motorola is unaware. He could have phrased his question differently without throwing everything out there. He probably would have gotten a better answer too.
[Droid Ultra General] Johnny Wong:
Motorola would be happy to give out unlock codes. It is Verizon that restricts Motorola from doing so.
[Droid Ultra General] s_u_n:
CVE-2016-10277 indicates that there is hope.
[Droid Ultra General] _ck_:
sorry for the necro-bump but just checking if after seven years any free solution emerged for verizon motorola bootloader locked phones like the xt1030 droid mini obake?

I'm sure sunshine still works but spending $25 on an old phone I just want to bring back from the dead seems foolish

can't believe the motorola official site refuses to unlock a phone this old

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sorry for the necro-bump but just checking if after seven years any free solution emerged for verizon motorola bootloader locked phones like the xt1030 droid mini obake?

I'm sure sunshine still works but spending $25 on an old phone I just want to bring back from the dead seems foolish

can't believe the motorola official site refuses to unlock a phone this old
[Droid Ultra General] sd_shadow:
Motorola has a contract with Verizon.

"Droid" is license to Verizon, from Lucas films.

Motorola isn't going to risk violating a contract with one of their major partners.
[Droid Ultra General] miketoasty:
As long as you don't take any updates we should be fine. Our build date for our latest update (4.4.4 - 21.11.21) was June 18th and the exploit was released July 1st. Fingers crossed, but none the less we should be okay!

Edit: After reading his documentation here: "http://imgur.com/TXKDpOI", he states that all phones that have a Snapdragon SoC and use TrustZone (Our phone uses a Snapdragon S4, which includes said TrustZone) | (Not including the S5 and M8) are affected by this, so again, we should be good!

Really hoping as well that this works and comes to fruition soon, would definitely make holding onto my Maxx that much easier!
[Droid Ultra General] rtaylor429:
Actually, I am still on 4.4 and delaying the 4.4.4 update... Don't want to lose WP off. Once we have the bootloader unlocked permanently, that won't be an issue. At least from what I read, I think.
[Droid Ultra General] miketoasty:
Once your bootloader is unlocked, you are permanently set. There is nothing than can do at that point to lock you down. Even if you were somehow to take an OTA that reapplied WP, reinstalled stock recovery, and removed SU entirely from your system, with an unlocked bootloader you would still be fine.
[Droid Ultra General] Metfanant:
I'll be upgrading as soon as Moto gets off their butts and releases the new Droids...but am very excited about at least enjoying a few months of unlocked goodness...

Hopefully this gets released publicly soon...
[Droid Ultra General] akellar:
It's been less than a year since Ultra/Maxx was released... :rolleyes:
[Droid Ultra General] Metfanant:
What's your point?
[Droid Ultra General] BriCo84:
Wrong thread for this discussion guys.

Let's keep it on point...
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
Just in case you guys were wondering....I had to clarify this in another thread in the Moto X section:

I hope this helps answer the questions that some of you may have.
[Droid Ultra General] miketoasty:
I was reading on a different site and someone mentioned that the TZ hasn't been changed in any of the past OTAs, assuming he knows what he is talking about there is no reason IF this gets released we wouldn't be able to use it.

Oh and not that I want to act like I know anyone's intentions, I don't think Dan is going to release this one, he has had a ton of trouble in the past with end users basically being jerks to him. He released all the needed information to do it yourself though (if you know what you are doing) so I do believe there will be a dev that makes this usable to the masses.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
Oh it HAS changed (TZ that is), we just don't think it has changed from 4.4.2 > 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 , so *fingers-crossed* that it will be applicable to all current versions of the Moto X and Droid line-up.

You are correct, even if Dan doesn't release a tool, the vulnerability is now exposed so any DEV skilled enough could write a tool for this purpose. I have NO problem whatsoever admitting that it is beyond my capabilities....my ego isn't too big to admit to that...

I imagine we will have the ability to unlock using the vulnerability he has exposed soon - whether it comes from Dan himself, or elsewhere.
[Droid Ultra General] miketoasty:
Agree with what you are saying, and agree that my skills are basically null compared to the talented devs we have out there.

Considering that the exploit for the Moto X should work with our phones (Possibly work for all Motorola phones that fit the bill as well), we should see something pretty soon (Only bring this up since I know the X has a ton more development going for it than our phones).
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
:good:
[Droid Ultra General] Jaocagomez:
LOL not until someone makes the working exploit.

Dan should reclaim the unlock bootloader bounty here and in moto x forums making a guide or releasing how to do it by ourselves, until that, Chinese guy can still profit.
[Droid Ultra General] spiral777:
Is dans talk from blackhat 2014 about the Qualcomm soc bug/bootloader unlock floating around anywhere to watch?
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
Dan Rosenberg is a god. I've benefitted from him many many times. Hip hip hooray!

Shocked to see this though. He previously said he was done with moto exploits due to time consumption and to consider bootloader unlock ability before next device purchase.

Good news either way. Means it's possible!

Sent from my unlocked consumer edition Motorola Droid Maxx xt1080m.
[Droid Ultra General] s_u_n:
This is awesome. Now, who is going to develop a working exploit? :p
[Droid Ultra General] ChrisMAXX:
Awaiting exploit patiently :)

Sent from my XT1080M
[Droid Ultra General] BADDINOROX99:
I wouldn't get my hopes up much I saw this over at Droidlife.com

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/08/0...nt-on-dan-rosenbergs-trustzone-vulernability/
[Droid Ultra General] miketoasty:
Of course they knew about it, he published his findings in July. The fact is though that this hasn't been patched on our devices yet so as long as we get it before we receive any OTAs everyone is still eligible.

I don't think we're going to see it but that's not the point I'm trying to make.
[Droid Ultra General] rds217:
How do you know it wasn't patched in the last OTA (4.4.4)?
[Droid Ultra General] Topsnake:
Because if I'm not mistaken the build date on the software is June something. The exploit wasn't published until July 1
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
I had originally posted this in another thread...but I decided it was more than relevant enough to post here as well.

It is long, but it is a good read...
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
I could not agree more however, releasing the news of such an exploit then saying I probably wont tell you how to do it is not the best news either, just saying. I guess time will tell, either way it is progress.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
EXCELLENT NEWS! So it would appear that he DID release some more intricate details regarding the exploit. *GO DAN*.

Hopefully this is enough to put together a full working exploit.

Hang tight guys....and keep your fingers crossed! :fingers-crossed:

EDIT: This may not be detailed enough in order to actually execute the exploit. Let's hang tight and wait for more details...

Keep your fingers crossed yet...

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EDIT2: HAHAHA! I just noticed that my post count is now exactly 1337!

See here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leet

It makes me not want to post again for a bit
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
If this was directed at me, I think you took me wrong. Never the less I have had countless people ask me to theme sh*t for them without even so much as a thanks LOL SOOO I know where "Dan" is coming from. I just dont release or say anything unless I am willing to share, just my thoughts. He has to know countless people will bug the crap out of him for the exploit. It is a double edged sword recognizing security vulnerabilities that everyone wants and use to unlock strongly locked bootloaders such as Motos. At this point you can bring up all the scenarios you want but at the end of the day it is something that most people want and if he has some kind of issue with sharing than that is fine,,,all of this "great news" means nothing if it cant or wont be shared LOL. I dont do what I do for donations or accolades, I do it because I like like it and share everything I do with others.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
It wasn't directed at you at all bro. This thread has a sister thread in the moto x forum - it was just copied from there. People in that thread were making comments that led to it's posting. Go look if you're interested in what sparked it.

Worry not, it had absolutely nothing to do with you.
[Droid Ultra General] Einsteindks:
I'm no expert myself, but when I jump in and start helping people with stuff, I become the current go-to guy. I try to preface things from the get-go about my limited abilities and knowledge, but suddenly everybody is jumping down my throat with every last complicated AND mundane problem under the sun. The phrase 'No good deed goes unpunished' is so so true!
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
If people want to be upset they need to be upset with their device manufacturers and service providers. At least T-Mobile is/was catering to those who like to tinker.

I think stock android is nearly perfect as it is. I don't need to crack flash roms like I did on my droid 2 and galaxy nexus. Thanks to the developers and xposed framework, at least for me, custom roms are a thing of the past. But unfortunately just because we pay money for a service doesn't mean we get to do whatever the heck with it we want. Case in point verizon network optimization. And the difficulty in unlocking / rooting Motorola devices. Thank god I've been able to enjoy the awesome coverage as long as I have. But even buying a carrier exclusive device has began to show its blemishes like lackluster selection of accessories.

I worry about technology as a whole. And how controlled it's become. I think xda should offer weekly or monthly educational segments on how to make an impact. I know I could email a specific corporation, but I wouldn't know what department or what to say. I think this should be priority one before any development takes place. Then we'll have more freedom and ability to do as such.

Sent from my unlocked consumer edition Motorola Droid Maxx xt1080m.
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
Thanks brother just making sure I didnt offend anyone. I hope this works out, I have a Droid Mini and want the damn thing unlocked LOL. Unfortunately, mine is an early 2013 edition so the middle man thing wont work.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
Guys, this information is being copied from the Sister thread in the Moto X section. Once again, it isn't directed any anyone at all in this thread.

Jcase himself has CONFIRMED that Dan --DID-- release enough information to fully execute the exploit!!!!!!

Well fortunately none of us rumored that he sold it, we were only curious if he would release it.

That clears that one up. I think this is extremely hopeful news. Coming from jcase himself.... I think you guys will have your unlock soon, after all!

I do think everyone should definitely go read my 2 posts on the previous page and consider how some comments probably made Dan feel, in light of this new information. The guy deserves more respect than he has been given... ;)
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
I can definitely feel for Dan as I know what it feels like to have people use your sh*t and not only never say thanks but b*tch about it screwing up your system when it was never the apk (or exploit in his case) that did it in the first place LOL. But,,,,,,the reason I learned how to theme, work Java code, xml, etc,,,is because I was sooooo tired of the "guys" that knew how to do this stuff taking their ball and going home when a few bad apples in the android community complained. I am no where in the same league as them but I learn pretty fast. One thing I dont do is ask for or expect something for anything I do. Yes I have a place to donate for the work that I do but that is NEVER expected and trust me most never do. But I still release things and do stuff for people. I read his blog post and what Dan has to know is that some people will never be satisfied but a large majority of true android users appreciate his work!
[Droid Ultra General] fix-this!:
Id sure love to root my works phone. This droid mini sucks stock. Bad battery and oversenstive lcd. Glad i dont own it.
[Droid Ultra General] Einsteindks:
They may not like it, potential security breech and all.
[Droid Ultra General] jenkies:
That clears that one up. I think this is extremely hopeful news. Coming from jcase himself.... I think you guys will have your unlock soon, after all!

Looks like I'm probably gonna dance at somebody's wedding after all... Lol.
[Droid Ultra General] fix-this!:
There wouldnt be any security breech.
[Droid Ultra General] Einsteindks:
I suppose it all depends on what the phone is used for. With root, system files could no longer be seen as secure. Corporate security could be breached via the phone. At the very least, the phone could no longer be used to purchase items.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
I have to agree completely with [MENTION=3640868]Einsteindks[/MENTION] .

In the corporate world, rooting your phone is not OK. Not only does unlocking the BL erase everything on the device (which your employer wouldn't be too happy about if they have installed anything on it), but the Good For Enterprise app (VERY popular in the corporate world) specifically checks for the su binary. If found, you can no longer access exchange as your device is deemed insecure.

Additionally, it's not your opinion that matters because you don't own the phone. You may feel that not running antivirus on your PC is OK as long as you avoid shady sites. Try to do that on your corporate PC and see what happens.

People have gotten fired for rooting their corporate phones. Especially considering that unlocking the BL is NOT reversible...

What if you brought the company car back from a business trip and had made a non-reversible modification to it (without permission)?

I'd be pretty upset with you if I loaned you a phone that belongs to me and you permanently unlocked the BL without permission.

OK, I think that's enough. If you value your job, ask permission before modifying your employer's phone. That's all.
[Droid Ultra General] teerout:
i took some intro programming courses in HS and college. and i share your same sentiment. Id love to be able to help with development, but i dont have the skill-set. need to try and learn more.
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
I am trying to learn but this is out of my league and at this point I have little hope that anyone will work it. It seems the dev community has gone away since the old days of android. Or, they are all on other communities because of people constantly asking them for things and never being thankful or living up to their bounty's. Either way can't blame them.
[Droid Ultra General] Einsteindks:
Too many folks wanted somebody to do it for them, and even hold her hand in the process. It wasn't enough that someone was very creative and ingenious to come up with a fantastic utility. Some folks wanted someone to come over and do it entirely for them. Shoot, I'm no high tech whiz here but I even helped out some folks, and very soon had a small taste of what the developers go through. Cruise the boards, do your homework, search, read the directions, take your time and it'll all work out.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
You are exactly right.

As much as I like HELPing people (who want to help THEMSELVES), it has gone far beyond that.

Doing this:

For people like this:

Is no longer enough.

Now, they just want you to come over, do it all for them (heaven forbid they have to actually think or learn or read) and....of course, don't want to compensate (even if they PROMISED to) and let alone even bother hitting the THANKS button.

"WHAT??? You mean it's not a 'ONE-CLICK METHOD'?!?!?!" *complain, complain, complain*

SMH...
[Droid Ultra General] asuhoops8628:
haaha, amen Sam... Get a few PMs a week from people asking me how to root and thats it...

like there are 4 threads discussing this... Its one thing if you have a specific question about instructions that were posted, but man show you did a tiny bit of homework
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
I dont mind the questions and helping out people but it is the same ones that keep coming back asking for something different and dont even bother to hit the thanks button or even saying thanks. I can see why some devs just stopped all together.
[Droid Ultra General] mrwinkle:
Okay, I have been following this thread extensively hoping and praying that one on these notifications i receive will indeed tell me how to unlock my bootloader. But instead i keep reading post singing the same song "yadayadayada, devs are fed up with unthankful users, yadayadayada SOME users go back on their word to pay a promised bounty, yadayadayadayada, SOME users want to be spoon bottle feed and so on". The fact is SOME users are exactly the type of people devs want to help, those who want to learn and are willing to put forth the effort and setbacks (bricking of phones) to receive the satisfaction of getting the maxx out of their phone. I have read some posts where some users have said that they themselves would tackle this exploit but do not have the skill-set to do so. I do believe that those users are the exact type devs would love to help. that being said, lets keep this thing positive and see if we can find a solution to this problem; negativity only produces negative outcomes. I propose this broad idea. Is there anyway the ones with the skill-set can come together with the ones who have the effort, drive, and TIME; but lacking the skill-set, and teach them the theory behind using this exploit to unlock our boothloaders? That way the Top devs will not be bombarded with pms from the ones that this thread constantly talks about.

THIS POST IS NOT INTENDED FOR ANYONE IN PARTICULAR

I just want to be able to receive a notification from this thread, get super excited, follow the steps from that particular post and say "HOT DANG!!!!" I finally got it unlocked.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
While that's a great idea and I would encourage it, the fact remains that ALL of us in this thread (even those of us with limited development skills) have freely admitted that we do NOT have the necessary skill-set. It's WAYYY over our heads.

So the problem is that no one with the proper skill-set is visiting or posting in this thread. There are only 3 individuals that I pretty much *know* have the necessary skill set. They have all been reached out to. One "isn't interested", the other 2 haven't responded.

Could mean a couple things. Perhaps one or more is working on this as we speak and wants to keep quiet until release date (I hope so), or it could mean they have zero intentions of working on or releasing this. It's all speculation at this point. Keep in mind that bootloader unlocks are VERY delicate. One single byte written to the wrong location can/will hard-brick a phone, permanently. Further complicating this is the fact that we have so many different variants of the Moto X, and the droid lineup, that a universal unlock tool would require much more coding yet.

Finger still crossed. If anyone DOES believe that they have the "skill set" necessary to pull this off, post here and let us know.
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
At this point it has been what over a month since this exploit was found and not even the slightest hint of any dev that is willing to work it. By the time they do the newer Moto X will be out and this will start all over again with a different phone. I think it is great that "Dan" whoever the h*ll that is found it, but if no one will work it then it is time to move on. NOT SAYING ANYONE HAS TO,,,so dont get all riled up over that statement. Some devs,,,not all,,,like the fact that allllll these people are crying for this and they laugh at doing nothing. SO in the end, they can have it LOL, it is really not worth all of this.

THIS IS NOT DIRECTED AT ANYONE PERSON OR DEVELOPER!!!
[Droid Ultra General] phukt1288:
Well said it would b awesome 2 know there is a chance or if we are wasting our time with this phone. I'm sure all of us would like this to happen so we don't have to search for a new phone and run in to the problem of a locked b-loader with it as well.
[Droid Ultra General] samwathegreat:
Can't blame you for moving on.

My devices are unlocked, so I guess its different for me anyways....

You are right - more awesome phones are about to be released. Just be absolutely sure you buy the DEV EDITION.

If any of you have upgrades coming.....by all means, upgrade to what ever device has the HIGHEST RESALE VALUE. Don't use it!!!! Switch back to an old phone.

Now you can sell the phone you got for your upgrade....as NEW, and pocket all that cash. Use that cash to finance your DEV EDITION.

Do it this way, and you won't have to worry about exploits....

Good Luck :good:
[Droid Ultra General] Archangel:
Or like you said just buy a dev phone from the start, no need to do all that. However, decompiling my systemui and framework-res I can do pretty much whatever I want so the unlocked bootloader would have been a nice thing but doesn't kill my phones usefulness.
[Droid Ultra General] korn3r:
if devs are not satisfied with users gratitude, they could do atleast paid version of unlock. e.g. 10$ per unlock or something. or even 20-30$.

since many droid users live outside US, there is some problems buying Dev Edition (in my country it is problem to order even regular edition) + there is no dev edition for Mini as far as i know.

ps. sorry for my English
[Droid Ultra General] akellar:
I think this is the path we will start seeing for exploits and personally I'm fine with it. Bounties don't work and aren't paid, and donations are few. Jcase and Beaups Sunshine exploit for HTC is a prime example.
[Droid Ultra General] Durteedee:
Bliss's Loki exploit got him so much flack (oh its not a real boot loader unlock.

From the Dirty Droid Ultra
[Droid Ultra General] phukt1288:
I 2nd this! Its a great idea. Bountys plus a set price for unlock should entice some devs
[Droid Ultra General] BriCo84:
I agree, as long as it's a tool, not a per device thing. I have a whole office of moto X's to deal with and user's who constantly screw up their phone and have to insurance replace it.

I would pay $75 to buy a tool that works