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[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dobygot:
I just want to say thank you, to OP and the existence of this thread - it saved me today when I went and bought a G3 in Shanghai.

Having read this thread, I went in and asked for a black 32gb with 3gb ram. As soon as they brought it out I asked to check the ram. It said 800mb and 1gb. I said I wouldn't buy it unless it added up to at least 2.8gb. This black unit had arrows on the volume buttons. And they called it an international gray market version, but the box said hkg. It's not Korean as it didn't have an antenna and the back cover has LG printed on it. It is clear that it was 32gb version, but it only had 2gb of ram.

They made a call and then brought out a gold one. I pointed out to them that this one added up to 2.8 (1 and 1.8)

Same box, says hkg, but the volume buttons don't have the arrows printed on it, also has Lg printed on back cover and no tv antenna. Minimal bloat installed so it doesn't seem to be hkg version. Also the inside cover has 4 leads, assuming it's good for QI charger right out of the box.

I know I'm not much help with this vague information, but this was my experience today.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Seifer1975:
Woah, looks like the problem may be more widespread than I thought.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigkevbosky:
This isn't a problem. These folks are buying Chinese knockoffs.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpEaKeRb0xXx:
Woah, too expensive for a chinese knock off. $800 for a fake one, there must be something going on here.

Would be nice if OP can post a screen shot of his device then.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dobygot:
Not sure if joking.

The unit i looked at was not a knockoff. You give Chinese too much credit ;)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigkevbosky:
Not joking. Nobody anywhere else I can find on any website has this issue. Then all of a sudden after this thread another one in China happens to have the same issue? Either knockoff or lying for attention. Either way its not a problem.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shook187:
This is a non issue just a couple guys in a couple third world countries, who bought their phones in a non repitable store from a guy named shabula
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dobygot:
How does my current location have anything to do with the fact that the G3 I almost bought, had shown only 2gb of ram just like the OP's?

Guys, it's pretty embarrassing how ignorant and arrogant us Americans can be, so let's try to refrain from taking every opportunity to remind everyone of these traits by insulting a country of people and dismissing peoples issues because it's happening in a place that you feel isn't relevant to you.

Also what do you gain from dismissing these reports? This forum isn't only for people who own these phones living in America. Just make note of these reports and ignore them if you feel they're not relevant to you. Dismissal through insults is really childish.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] transfo47:
I apologize on behalf of him, those guys make Americans look bad. It really shouldn't matter where you bought it, you should get a replacement.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SilverZero:
The volume buttons on mine came with a protective sticker that had arrows and the power icon in the center, so that May not be an indicator of anything unless they were truly printed on the buttons.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tectas:
Well, that sounds weird, if the arrows were really printed directly on the buttons! Was lg just printed on the back or as well at the bottom on the front? Seems strange, but maybe a plagiat, like it's done at footwear and such? Don't know, but such details would point into that direction.

Maybe check your panel with dmesg | grep -i panel executed in an terminal emulator after a reboot. It should show lgd or jdi somewhere at the lines (maybe post the output here), if it shows something completely different, well, even more strange.

Another option would be, a refurbished phone sold as new.

Sent from my LG-D855
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daryll54321:
Actually the guy from china posted his experience after he bought his phone. If I didnt started this thread and he himself found that RAM alone, he would've also started creating this kind of thread.

Actually there's also another guy who posted asking about the 3gb ram because he's also experiencing it..

Check #71

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/help/g3-32-gb-2-gigs-ram-t2835852
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daryll54321:
Sir just ignore them. Don't bring yourself DOWN to their level :)

They just say those things because they are not experiencing it. Thank you btw :)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dobygot:
I think you might be right. I didn't notice the sticker, so it might not actually be printed on the plastic.

It looked like this one pictured on the left. (noted as Hong Kong Version in the pic)

This picture is from a reseller who sells both the korean and hkg versions of the phone.

I apologize I didn't have enough time with it to dig deeper into the unit I looked at. I tried to remember as many details as possible, but that's about all I found out about it.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flaring afro:
The arrows are on those stickers on legit G3s, at least on some versions so that doesn't mean it's not an LG phone. I'd think a complete counterfeit would have more obvious traits like a different processor and a lower resolution screen. I still wouldn't rule out the shop doing something to 16GB versions to make them look like they're 32GBs and pocketing the extra $200, or actually changing the flash storage to a 32GB (not sure how hard that is). The stores certainly don't sound reputable to me from the way they're treating their customers, but I'm not familiar with how big they are since I'm not from there. I just find the idea of LG mistakenly giving some phones 2GB ram cards unlikely, as well as a ram card having a problem with this exact amount of its memory out of the box.

What is the 7 day policy? It isn't a satisfaction or your money back policy is it? I'd definitely try to return it. Even if it is LG's fault, the store doesn't deserve to make money off of you with the way they're treating you.

Also, those guys were rude but I think they were saying it's not an LG G3 problem, it's a counterfeit. Not that you getting a bad device isn't a problem because of the country you live in. Smaller countries tend to have a lot more counterfeit phones than the United States which is what they were getting at.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] manaox2:
Many counterfeit flash drives have false size info due to a modified formatting table. Flashing a 32gb kdz to a 16gb phone might do that. They are likely not counterfeit, just a 2gb/16gb reflashed with the incorrect image and then sold as 3gb/32 at an upcharge. You would possibly not have noticed had you not checked the ram which is harder to fake until you had memory errors trying to store more than 16gb of Gb of data internally.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpEaKeRb0xXx:
Here's a quick read about Memoxpress terms and conditions (jump to number 5 and 6)

http://memoxpress.theshop.ph/memoxpress/terms

OP should also read this and call memo customer service
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tectas:
From what i read, the 32gb kdz can be flashed without problems on an 16gb phone, just not the other way round (but i must confess, i haven't tried it, so i can't confirm), but the wrong size info at flash drives you're talking about is in most common done by altering the FAT table of the main (and only) partition, but the g3 and most other current android phones use ext4 and there is also not just one partition, i don't think it's that easy.

If it's genuine, it's for my opinion more likely to be refurbished and a 16 and 32 gb model have been merged together or it's really as stated before, that the flash memory has been replaced to sell it as 32gb model, even while it isn't completely, but i highly doubt that it is done that way by lg itself, that there are defective parts at some devices, ok, can happen, but wrong parts at such a big company, don't think so, but that's just me.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daryll54321:
Sir I really thank you for your help also for those who are trying to help and give me ideas.

I've finished reading the terms and conditions of the store you just linked to me. Well atleast I know have an idea.

Anyways going back to my previous post sir, just to give you and all people on this thread some update.

LG Customer Service together with Main Office themselves made a solution because Korea is STILL not replying to this issue.

What they've decided is to give me a replacement process for my phone. (FINALLY)

Got my claim stub, and will be waiting for the next few days to get the new and legit phone. Hopefully things will go well now.

But I will also try to ask for an update if they can get Korea's reply.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpEaKeRb0xXx:
If it is a gold one lets trade!haha! Just kidding. Glad to hear that they will replace it. You deserve it.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kingoftf:
you should try

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.JFProds.deviceinfo

to see the hardware specs.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dobygot:
Yeah exactly. But I never suggested the arrows meant that the phone is counterfeit. I was simply trying to give information on the phone I saw that had the same problem as the OPs.

AFAIK, the ones with arrows are from HKG, at least that's what one reseller's picture is saying. But I think what the reseller meant was that the HK phones have the arrow stickers, while the Korean units don't have those arrow stickers. Completely moot now though since they're removable so my observations means nothing.

My description wasn't in any way suggesting counterfeiting, but to help describe the type of phone I had. The only person suggesting counterfeiting were the guys who ASSUMED it due to my being in China. Smartphones don't get counterfeited, they get cheap knockoffs. The cost to copy a phone to a point where you can't tell except for the chips inside, is greater than the cost you'd make by scamming the few people who can't tell. There are horribly cheap knockoffs, but those are so few and incredibly easy to spot since they're nowhere close to the original (thicker, uglier, no logos or creative alteration of original logos).

Again, you guys give the Chinese way too much credit if you think a smartphone can be counterfeited. It's easier to just secure a gray market phone "source" and profit from savings of sales and import taxes (this is real life).

Finally, the whole 32gb flash to 16gb thing actually makes sense (at least for my instance). Rom/region flashing is something gray market vendors often do when preparing gray market units from other countries to be sold in China, the main thing is to add chinese txt input. I wonder if anybody can look into this theory.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flaring afro:
Chinese factories often make official smartphones. They absolutely are capable of making counterfeits - and it happens a lot. I haven't heard of G3 counterfeits yet, but there are Galaxy S and Note counterfeits out there. They look close but have a lower resolution, old processors, less ram, etc.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lch920619x:
Firstly, do you know that a great portion of smartphones (samsung, LG, Asus, Apple, zte, huawei, and a lot more) are actually made in China?

Chinese factories are the most productive in the world. Would you elaborate more on 'too much credit'?

And secondly, if you've never seen it, don't simply say it doesn't exist. I have seen quite a few fake phones, for instance, GS4, that looks exactly like the legit ones. There is no way to tell the difference without using apps like cpu-z or so.

So please stop making ignorant comments about something you have no idea about.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dobygot:
"too much credit" is getting an LG G3 clone out (complete re-manufacture from the ground up clone) within a month that has the same specs everywhere, including the qhd screen, os, camera, etc - while saving costs with cheap parts, and doing it all to match the physical standards well enough that people would assume it's real. This is of course after knowing way before the phone is released, that the phone would be popular enough to be worth cloning and to start manufacturing these clones in advance so that to be ready the same time the real phone is released.

If you're suggesting a manufacturer leak where the workers inside are secretly taking real parts but swapping in cheap parts into the assembly line just like with fake designer bags that have the same bag material but use cheap fake zippers, then that's a huge statement and assumption you're making, and purely based on the fact that I'm in China - which is my main gripe.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but how did you reach a conclusion that some folks knew that the lg g3 would be such a huge hit (just like the galaxy s line) that it would be a worthwhile intention to swap 3gb to 2gb of ram at the LG's 3rd party manufacturing pants, and then somehow keeping track of those smuggled phones to gray market vendors to make 100usd profit on top of the 100% pure 550 dollar profit from smuggled from-factory phones? How does that make sense again? Because I'm in China, and because the vendor that gave me that phone with 2gb of ram, is Chinese. Right?

So instead of trying to figure out how that's possible from traditional troubleshooting methods (easiest to hardest) let's all jump to the one conclusion based on the famous stereotype of China (admittedly, they earned this and are notoriously good at copying). Heh, maybe I've been here too long and I'm starting to speak for them when it's not even needed.

I just don't think anybody should be suggesting it based off of my single post and experience. As easy as it would be to make that assumption, it's not a valid conclusion at all.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] flaring afro:
There was no conclusion about the op's case in his post. He simply stated that there are Chinese made counterfeit phones out there, which you said wasn't possible...
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teddy0209:
Any update from to OP? Did you get your replacement unit?

I'm also from ph, have the 32gb G3...

Just beware, there are really vendors who will do everything just to get you buy a unit...

Most of them lies just to be able to sell something, even on malls, they just keep talking, but when you ask something more technical then they know nothing, only few will give you a good recommendation...

My suggestion for others is to know about the unit before you actually buy one... =)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lch920619x:
I do agree with you that any decent G3 counterfeit is not out yet.

And op's phone should be legit, perhaps just a manufacture flaw.

but it's not true to say they can't make a very decent fake.

check out this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8-lu8HHhjw

BTW it's not about any stereotype or something, just stating truth...
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daryll54321:
No updates as of now but replacement is on process sir. Customer Service said maximum days to wait for the replacement would be 4. But hey at least they agreed on replacing it already..
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] teddy0209:
They really have to replace it... I hope you get it soon... =)

---------- Post added at 03:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:25 AM ----------

Guys, just for clarification...

As far as I know, counterfeits/fakes can't receive an official firmware update, or am I mistaken?

There are lots of fakes (especially for apple and samsung devices) and probably fakes of this phone will come out since it's becoming more popular...
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daryll54321:
Guys I got my phone replacement finally!

But I asked customer service again for Korea's reply, still no reply regarding the issue

:)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fustion:
Check if you have Headphones or Spare Battery in the Box! If you do thats a 2gb ram. If not definitely return it! Or just get your headphones and Spare battery. The spare battery will be needed as android phones battery life dont have a great span!
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] javism1:
Hello all,

I've recently bought a LG G2 (D802). I've seen that there are a few ROMs which have been adapted from the G3 model to the G2: Cloudy G3, Optimus G3 and Lam Hoang G3. I have had a look to this last one and there are still some issues with the ROM.

I wonder whether it's really worth it to install one of these ROMs or it would be enough just installing G2 Exposed and changing the theme to look like the G3 one?

Obviously there are some other differences like some new applications. However since they are both based on Android 4.4.2 I don't see how much difference there could be if I use Xposed.

Here are some of the pros and cons I can see:

G3 ROMs over stock:

Camera

Keyboard

UI (G2 can be adapted to look almost the same as G3 (Tweaks box + G3 theme) though)

Less bloatware as custom ROMs get rid of them in most cases

Smart notice (is it good?)

G2 stock over G3 ROMs:

Most stable software

Less risk of virus in your phone (if you install a custom ROM you don't really know if the person who built it put some spyware in it)

Official updates (I guess official G3 ROMs won't get official updates)

Are there any new applications/features apart from above which make worth it installing these ROMs? Maybe performance benefits?

*This is not a thread to discuss whether it's good or not making custom ROMs. In fact, I want to say thanks to all those developers who spend hours trying to bring something better to our phones.

Thanks,

Javier
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RS7JR:
I too am interested in hearing responses to this. I previously came from a galaxy s3 (d2spr) and I thought many roms were worth installing on that device as many actually improved either functionality, battery life, or performance. But with my g2, I'm really content with the stock kk. I've heard the camera on the g3 roms is pretty awesome, but I've also heard of issues with hdr not working. Can't wait to hear responses.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mobius360:
I'm on stock, rooted rom, g2 tweaksbox, g3 theme and the camera tweak which adds some features.

It's a great way to go, everything works like a charm.

Sent from my LG-D801
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Saythis:
You won't find a single rom that doesn't have someone complaining of issues. So far though CloudyG3 1.2 has been exceptionally stable and pretty much fully functional. Even stock has its quirks in terms of issues.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Tex_Norseman:
I use Cloudy G3 1.2, and after a few tweaks, it runs pretty damn smooth. I like it over stock!
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elmonen:
Using OptimusG3 and everything is smooth as butter!
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NisseGurra:
I like to add one more candidate for a G3 rom: lamhoang G3 FINAL

https://translate.googleusercontent....4358/&usg=ALkJrhiaba6cK0mY2Vsbrcc3aGQFUPvzdg

The 1st fully deodexed art compatible rom, its very snappy and i find it the best of the G3 ports so far.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yken:
I think lamhoang rom eats battery very much
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NisseGurra:
No, i getting excellent battery life on the Lamhong roms.

8+ hours screen on my 802 and 6+ hours on the 320k
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eoidfil:
OptimusG3 V1.2

Hi,

I'm running OptimusG3 v1.2. In the beginning tried CloudyG3.

I started experimenting with G3 ROMs since it's G3 has nicer interface than G2 ROMs. It has G3 camera and keyboard. It has also G2 FM Radio apk. CloudG3 has G3 FM radio apk that crashes.

Overall good ROM but battery live could be better when you use it, In stand by is OK.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] detonation:
I tried the G3 rom for a few days but ultimately went back to stock rooted. The flatter, minimal theme of the G3 looks great, but that was about it. I have the VS980 which isn't fully supported for the G3 rom (yet) so I had minor data/mms issues and poorer battery life. Plus, I think the camera on the G3 is a downgrade compared to the G2 - less features/options, and pictures seemed to look a little worse.

For now, I use Nova with a G3 theme, and G2 Xposed/Tweakbox to mimic some other aspects of the interface (notification toggles, status bar tint, etc)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zyner:
I'm running CloudyG3 and i'm really enjoying it so far, the new 1.2 update added all the missing things so now im super happy :D
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lastdeadmouse:
See above :confused:
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] javism1:
I've changed on the description that last point :)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xda219:
For Camera, you can install xdabbeb's camera. I read a couple of days ago that there will be an update and that his camera will be available in apk.

For the Keyboard, you can install the LG G3 keyboard as an apk http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2793602
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] icoman:
Does the camera launch directly from the volume down button when using the shortcut?

I mean does it turn the screen on too, so you can snap a picture?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mobius360:
Yes it does. Just tried it.

Sent from my LG-D801
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kyle6683:
i love the G3 rom im on cloudys g3 rom
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Danzano:
On cloudys g3 rom been playing with settings and tweaks past few days and now I've found prefect balance of battery vs performance no bugs or complaints couple sods but kernel related and now fixed and other minor bugs I can work around till fixed great daily driver love the ui and phone is super snappy
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1ceb0x:
my eyes hurt... ever heard of punctuation?

i think lg did a good job with g3 stock but apart from the interface which looks more flat, you don't get too much over stock g2.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adi90004:
Hello! just got my lg g3, no complains except the Smart tv remote.

when i use it or i have to be really really really close to the tv or it just doesnt works, on my friend's galaxy s5 it works always!

he can turn on the tv from 15 \ 25 meters and i can do it only from 5 centimeters from the tv.

it means that my ir blaster isnt good or what? thanks. adi.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] H_Mark:
I'd try it on another tv as well, but yeah that's bust. Mine's got a decent range, although the angle of use isn't quite as good as for a proper remote.

Sent from my LG G3
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ipwngeek:
The IR-blaster is smaller, and with a smaller range than on the S5.

You should still be able to use it from aprox 8-15 meter away, but it all depends on the TV's receiver and the angle of the phone.

This is from using a tool to measure IR-strength, and personal experience :)
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SomeGuyDude:
The IR blaster with the Quick Remote is dodgy as balls for me. I was actually pressing the thing up against the sensor and it didn't work.
[G3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m0b1liz3:
I have an LG GPad 8.3 and the IR sofware worked straight away.

G3 didn't work at all on my tv. 1m distance. Tried all the variations. No dice.

My phone is also randomly shutting itself off.

I wonder what other bugs I will discover in the next few days?
[Fire TV General] Smithy71:
Has anyone tried to use a VPN on their phone and then set up a "local hotspot" to it and then connect to it on their AFTV? It's not something I need and everything is working well so haven't tried myself. Just sat at work and thought it might work :)
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
why not run the VPN application on the FireTv natively?
[Fire TV General] Smithy71:
I didn't think it was possible
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
sure is, i use it to get around the mlb restrictions

Use Hola, it requires a mouse

http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv/help/mlb-blackout-restriction-dns-unblock-t2825086

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[Fire TV General] Smithy71:
Awesome.