yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
All development for the 10.1 is for the SM-T520 which is the Exynos 5 wifi model. Should be no issues there.

TAB PRO 10.1:

Chipset	Exynos 5 Octa 5420

CPU	Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7

GPU	Mali-T628 MP6

TAB S 10.5:

Chipset	Exynos 5 Octa 5420

CPU	Quad-core 1.9 GHz Cortex-A15 & quad-core 1.3 GHz Cortex-A7

GPU	Mali-T628 MP6

Identical.

** OP amended.
[Galaxy Tab S General] eousphoros:
If any of these devs ported CyanogenMod or aosp, I would love to take a look at their device directory. I am getting closer with my port but running into a crash with surfaceflinger and the mali driver.

My wife would be happy if I got this working so I could stop obsessing.
[Galaxy Tab S General] fletch33:
i have the 10.1 and have been considering the S and so looking around here to make my decision. i will say that the Exynos component is probably going to prevent us from every seeing CM11 becase they dont develeop for it. also there is very little dev for the 10.1 and what little there is sees very little updates and most roms seem to be abandoned.

none of the 10.1 to date have developed far enough to make me want to install them yet.

you can look here to see them and then check OP for last update and you will see what i mean
[Galaxy Tab S General] eousphoros:
Ah the mondrianwifi, I took a look at that one initially but unfortunately it had enough subtle differences it wasn't much use.

Edit: So just did some digging, still can't find any ports of cyanogenmod to 10.1 (SM-T520). Ill spend a little bit more time digging but as far as I can tell the closest port has been the exynos 5410 samsung galaxy s4 which is what I forked my current port.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
When I said there was no development on the Tab Pro, I meant the T520 of course, as the T525 is snapdragon...

It seems I was right, I didn't see any cm11 work for the T520.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
By "development" are you referring only to CM? That's a pretty narrow definition of development. :) And of course no CM for Exynos but lots of TW based roms as you can see from the Tab Pro forum.

CM is awesome and clean and light and fast but you also give up the entire TW ecosystem including multiwindow which is a big price to pay for a little more speed.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
Yes TW can go to the junk, CM is the best thing we could have on our tablets.

I consider TW based Rom more as tweaks / tuning than real development.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Well using that argument, CM is just tweaked Android. :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
Yes of course :) ...........
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Well so far no responses to my private messages from the developers at Tab Pro forum. Next step will be to post in the actual threads and ask nicely for help. These guys probably get a million PMs so I'm not surprised not to hear a response.
[Galaxy Tab S General] eousphoros:
And android is just tweaked linux. Though the difference in porting AOSP/CM to this device versus modifying the current rom is like the difference between building a model rocket from a kit and launching a shuttle into orbit.

Really anyone who knows how to extract/build a system.img can build a rom for this device in under an hour. Super simple. Though thats not what I am personally interested in accomplishing. There is way too much stuff in the samsung rom that triggers my paranoia, up to and including the clause in the license that says something along the lines of any data we collect can be used to evaluate your eligibilty for hiring at samsung.

I am getting AOSP/CM on here or this tablet is going up for sale. If anyone is interested in helping out I have a couple github repos up and making progress on a daily basis. :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Contact UpInTheAir. He knows a lot about this stuff.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Poser:
I know slim had been built for the 5410... maybe poking about their Gerrit may help?
[Galaxy Tab S General] eousphoros:
Unfortunately the 5410 doesn't use the mali gpu which is where I am currently getting a crash. I just imported a bunch of code from the arndale_octa (Raspberry pi like board that uses the 5420 SOC) and waiting for my build to finish.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Poser:
Power VR...totally forgot. Does anything other than 5420 and arndale use the T628?

You think the crash is at the 3D render...or the handoff back to the a15 display controller?
[Galaxy Tab S General] eousphoros:
5420, 5422, and the 5800 use the T628.

As for the crash it looks like its happening somewhere between hwcomposer, gralloc, libEGL, and libGLES_mali. I put that fork on pause while I try take a look at the arndale_octa mali code.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
Thank you, I taught it was useless to argue with mitchellvi but you explained it very well.

I couldn't do as good as you did.

Thank you a lot :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Lol, argue with me about what, that only CM development is real development? The entire Development section of any Samsung forum is dedicated to non-CM based roms and represents 95% of all development for that device - and simple they're not.

The purpose of this thread is to draw rom development to the Tab S 10.5. Denigrating TW developers and comparing their efforts to model rocketry doesn't help. As far as CM being the space shuttle, that ship is already built and on the pad, you're just looking for the launch codes.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
Call it as tuning/tweaks, it is not offending, but it is not "dev".

Ah eousphoros said, anyone can open/extract original Samsung files, it is not called "dev"...

Don't tell me what I have to do or not.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Lol, I guess you better tell XDA then because they've been calling it the wrong thing for years. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Just posted the following message in 3 active Tab Pro 10.1 rom threads by xda recognized developers asking for help. Hopefully we'll get some interest.
[Galaxy Tab S General] GOF007:
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/develop

Based on this reference, TW based ROMs are clearly classified as development.
[Galaxy Tab S General] UpInTheAir:
TOTALLY disagree. You left out "basic" ROM.....

Same could be said for "building" a CM ROM. (Notice I didn't use the word "porting").

Modifying a TW ROM and smali code can be a heck of a challenge and headache too ;) Not super simple ...... particularly for new firmware etc.

But a lot of things don't really need to be built into the ROM anymore with Xposed, nor into CM either.

PS. To those that insist modifying TW isn't development have no idea what they are talking about.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
I concur with this opinion from a man who knows whereof he speaks :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
I already did some mods with some smali editions for the razr hd and razr I...

Maybe I should consider me as a dev, lol :D
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Publish your Tab S rom and maybe we will :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] eousphoros:
Since I don't know what I'm talking about I should pull down my CM's git repo's.. delete my build environment and let someone like you, who knows "what they are doing" do this trivial task of "building" CM.

Got it.

EDIT: repo's deleted, I'll just keep the port to myself. Have a nice day.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Actually he said that in response to your trivializing TW development, not to any of your other work. Your work is appreciated, just realize that if you ever minimalize the work of other devs you will likely hear about it. :) Believe me, I did that once too and got a sound thrashing from some people I respect.

Please carry on. If you can figure a way to make CM work for the Exynos you'll be a hero to everyone. As far as I know some very smart people have not been able to do it yet.
[Galaxy Tab S General] UpInTheAir:
Exactly.

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I never criticised your work, just your attitude to others. .... :rolleyes:

You can see that in any of my posts that I don't proclaim to be a "real Dev", just someone trying to make a difference ;)

There's no need to pull your work "out of spite" because you didn't either read or understand the intent of my post.

There are many posts of mine to suggest I actually like TW and (personal opinion) find CM bland. So why would I even bother "developing" for it?

Edit : The "PS" in my previous post was directed at Orphee post (.... is not "Dev"), maybe I should have been clearer on that. ..
[Galaxy Tab S General] TonyBigs:
Expect nothing, demand nothing and be very appreciative of what, if anything, ever appears. Everyone will be much happier.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
That's exactly what I say to myself before I walk into a bar :).
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
ENCOURAGING UPDATE FROM THE PRO 10.1 FORUMS:

We'll see if we can get started here.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Do any of you out there possess development skills that would like to help in doing the port of a 10.1 rom to the 10.5?
[Galaxy Tab S General] fletch33:
I have a 10.1 Pro as well and will tell you that it is significantly behind in development to the rom my Tab S has so you would you be making a mistake unless going for 4.2.2 complete AOSP rom. Haven't seen anything reliable enough over there either or with any ongoing updates.

Best bet is to start with our base rather than 10.1.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
What rom is your Tab S running? You mean just stock? In what way is it superior to the Pro stock? Really what we need is a solid kernel and a basic debloated Tab S rom with Aroma Installer to add goodies. We can't seem to get anything from experienced developers at all. Flashing something which is someone's first effort always makes me nervous. There was one developer who expressed interest but his people wanted us to buy him a tablet. As you can imagine that idea wasn't popular.

I'm either trying to get a 10.1 port or someone from over there to cook up a rom from our base using the same techniques they used in their established rom. Of course AOSP would be awesome but from what I've read, CM isn't designed to work with Exynos so that may be a non starter for a daily. Some things may work but is sure to have hardware issues.

At this point just an overclockable kernel would be most welcome. One dev has told me he will be willing to work on it in a few weeks if he can get testers.
[Galaxy Tab S General] fletch33:
so you obviously have Android 4.1, 4.2 etc.. and they are both on 4.4.2 however if they were labeled TW 4.1, 4.2.2 etc.. then the 10.1 is like 4.1 and the Tab S is like 4.4.2

i have a Note 3 and have purchased and used a couple of S5's and its almost exactly the same thing where the S5 although running same Android OS it is not running the same TW version and the S5 is much improved almost identical to 10.1 and Tab S. i am actually running a full S5 Port Rom on my N3 making it just like the S5 because it is so much nicer in so many ways.

i wouldn't run a 10.1 based rom on my 10.5 for anything but would consider a nice 10.5 based rom for sure.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
We have 4.4.2 currently on stock Tab S rom.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Ah ok. Got it. Wasn't aware Tab S got a better version of TW.

Hmmm. Well I'm doing my best to recruit some talent here. I'd learn to code myself but just too damned busy running a business to mess with it. I can actually code in Visual Basic, HTML, ASP, MySQL and Javascript but don't know a damned thing about cooking roms. I've heard Aroma makes it easier as most of the prior custom stuff is now plug and play. Still I can see from the struggles faced by users of the 10.1 roms, there are always a million little things that can go wrong. Sort of like racquet ball. Anyone can go out there and whack the ball around but it's hard to play well.

Well my insider info tells me we'll have a nice custom kernel in a few weeks anyway. There is some dev work for the LTE version of the 10.5 but don't want to chance it.

A rom would be nice but in the meantime, debloating, an aftermarket launcher, Xposed modules and a custom kernel will have to suffice.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Hi everyone!,

I'm willing to do this but i'll need some people who are willing to do trial and error testing to get it ready.
[Galaxy Tab S General] fletch33:
sorry bad typing please replace 4.2.2 with 4.4.2 in above post :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Here's a pic of my current firmware and kernel.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Orphee:
I have the LTE version, T805.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Just an update everyone: I have started working on the rom. Please give me some time as these things take a bit. I have to carefully test things to make sure they work so they don't end up broken when you flash the rom. Thanks for understanding & wish me luck! :victory:

Edit 1: Decompiled the firmware. DeOdexing apks
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Hey, just did some research on which version of Touchwiz the Tab Pro line is running vs the Tab S line and they may be the same. At least the Note Pro 12.1 is the same as the Tab S (according to Wikipedia anyway):

Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition (TouchWiz Nature UX 2.5, upgradable to TouchWiz Nature UX 3.0)

Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 (TouchWiz Nature UX 3.0)

Samsung Galaxy Tab S 8.4 (TouchWiz Nature UX 3.0)

Samsung Galaxy Tab S 10.5 (TouchWiz Nature UX 3.0)

So maybe we can port a 10.1 rom over?

Can anyone link us to a definitive answer on this? Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Not 100% sure but I think the Galaxy Tab Pro & Galaxy Note Pro are different. Not sure though
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
I'm chatting with Samsung right now finding out.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Can you use Aroma Installer for users to add customizatioms?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Oh thats great! Tell me what you find out.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
I have no idea what all the rules are for development but I guess once you have something together you should write it up in the development thread and post your githubs etc. See if we can get anyone to test.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
I personally don't know how to use that. But I know someone who can help me out with that and get that working hopefully.

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Will do sir. (I usually share a link through google drive for the rom so that people can get fast downloads)
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Ok, here is what she said:

Sara V: TouchWiz Nature UX 3.0 (Supports Android 4.4).

Sara V: SM-T520NZWAXAR has Android 4.4. << That's the Pro 10.1.

So I guess that means the Pro 10.1 is UX 3.0 like the Tab S. may not have shipped that way but if Pro 10.1 upgraded to 4.4 it likely upgraded the UX as well.

Makes sense I suppose.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Well, the conclusion I take from that is a port might be possible. Infact that would save a lot of time as well. I will try both and see what I can manage to do.

Update: DeOdexing Complete. Debloating rom.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Here's the confusing part. The S5 was supposed to be the FIRST device with UX 3.0 and that shipped in April. The Tab Pro line shipped in February (probably not with UX 3.0) but I'm guessing since it is 4.4 may have upgraded so the latest firmware would have it. I know the Note 10.1 is upgradeable to UX 3.0 so it would make sense the Tab Pro Line is.

Just trying to connect the dots here :)

Can you port someone else's stuff without them getting bent out of shape?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
That is quite confusing.If the S5 was the first device to have it then how does the Tab Pro 10.1 have it? But IF it doesn't... since the note 10.1 is up-gradable to it then the Tab Pro 10.1 should definitely be able to get it like you said.

I'm working on trying to port another rom as well make one from scratch. Once again, I have no idea how either will go but i'm working on it.

And thanks for the instant replies! :good:
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Well, if UX 3.0 is designed to squeeze the most performance out of 4.4 and Tab Pro has 4.4 and it was being sold as the premium tab after the S5 release it would make no sense for it not to be upgraded. The Note 10.1 is an old device and it got the UX 3.0 love. Oh well, makes sense to me.

A Dev over at the Pro forum probably knows. You can probably just PM the rom's Dev you want to port and ask them direct.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Will do sir. And i'll let you know the result. Meanwhile, I will continue to work on the rom as long as I can for today before my parents make me hit bed. (I'm 14 so I got a bedtime lol)

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ETA: Beta 1 2 hours(ONLY FOR PEOPLE WHO WANT TO TEST THIS OUT!!!!!) & I really need someone to test this out please. Thanks! :highfive:
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Why don't you call it a night and do a proper thread in the Development Section tomorrow? No rush. Maybe you should message the other devs over there and see if they have any ideas for you?

Maybe PM [MENTION=4435346]LastStandingDroid[/MENTION] since he got pretty close with a similar rom before running into wifi issues?

P.S., When I was 14 we kept ourselves busy painting pictures of antelope and bison on cave walls. The world has changed :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Indeed I will be messaging the other devs for some help. I'll call it a night in just an hour cause i'm almost done with repackaging the rom and uploading it. I'll probably do the whole post thing tomorrow professionally as you suggested. ;)

Hope you will like it when it is fully done!

EDIT: Just saw where you post the PM [MENTION=4435346]LastStandingDroid[/MENTION] part. Thanks for that.

Yup slow and steady wins the race ;)
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Look forward to seeing it. Give it a good name.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
A Good Name Ha ha.... I'm not too good with naming things :silly:... I'm open to suggestions lol ;)
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
Offical Post: Beta 1 WIP ROM

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/sm-wip-rom-t2832360

Someone please test and see if it boots up and follow instructions in the thread.

Thanks!
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
UPDATE:

Good news folks! Our little project here has resulted in a working, smooth and pretty dammed fast rom for the 10.5 (US Version). It is still in Beta but based upon my experience, everything seems to be working.

Special appreciation to [MENTION=5883270]ik4evr2[/MENTION] who came here from the 10.1 Pro Forums and without the benefit of his own device built a working rom for us. My thanks also go out to all the smart people who teamed with him to make it happen.

Go give it a flash. It only gets better from here :)
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
UPDATE:

Good news folks! Our little project here has resulted in a working, smooth and pretty dammed fast rom for the 10.5 (US Version). It is still in Beta but based upon my experience, everything seems to be working.

Special appreciation to [MENTION=5883270]ik4evr2[/MENTION] who came here from the 10.1 Pro Forums and without the benefit of his own device built a working rom for us. My thanks also go out to all the smart people who teamed with him to make it happen.

Go give it a flash. It only gets better from here :)

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-s/development/sm-wip-rom-t2832360
[Galaxy Tab S General] Shaheer:
I'm glad as well that I had the chance you help you guys out. :good:
[Galaxy Tab S General] mears:
Awesome news!
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
** Update: Have just heard from [MENTION=1429197]mrwookie6379[/MENTION] in the Tab Pro 10.1 forums. He has also expressed interest in developing for us. Cool.
[Galaxy Tab S General] suzook:
Anyone over there interested in porting the 8.4 version of cm that euphoros is working on to our 10.5?
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
I thought eousphoros was going to do that for the t800? He was just delayed by some 8.4 issues. Hopefully he'll get to it. In the meantime Shaheer is going live today with a very nice TW t800 rom.
[Samsung Galaxy Star] khiwa:
:confused:
[Samsung Galaxy Star] LehKeda:
No you can't
[Samsung Galaxy Star] akshaygalaxystarmod:
No bro
[Samsung Galaxy Star] T3snake:
U can only make good use of it

But cant increase
[Samsung Galaxy Star] utkarsh agarwal:
i don't think you can make changes in processor or ram ....
[Samsung Galaxy Star] nikobellic121:
Try rhoesoft ram increaser it will increase ur ram for temporary time.
[Samsung Galaxy Star] T3snake:
no it wont

it requires kernel support
[Samsung Galaxy Star] RendyAK:
No you can't

Hit Thanks if my reply WORKS :)
[Samsung Galaxy Star] bvrraju:
Do for kernal
[Samsung Galaxy Star] grdharsh19:
Try ram expander...
[Samsung Galaxy Star] akshaygalaxystarmod:
It would be risky bro
[Samsung Galaxy Star] grdharsh19:
No bro I am using it and it is not risky..!
[LG Optimus G (International)] nuezz:
Hey ppl.

Yesterday my screen and digitizer cracked because of my stupidity (had to throw it so it didn't get wet in a little fight for fun). Googled all day long just can't find an answer.. How can I get my pics out? Didn't sync and there's a lot of memories in there... I'm not going to pay for repair... Already ordered a Sony xperia z1 compact. Any ideas?
[LG Optimus G (International)] nuezz:
no one? :(
[LG Optimus G (International)] rjsk37:
Try On screen phone

If you enabled LG's On Screen Phone feature (only on stock), then you can connect to PC and play with it.
[LG Optimus G (International)] nuezz:
Tryed but can't connect cus I can't change connection mode on phone :s
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