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[P3600 General] Viper®:
Well, if you look at the big picture.

You could use that LBS for example with:

-TomTom buddy list, see where your collegues are driving.

-Live messenger, to see where your contacts are at the moment (especially when they're signed in mobile)

-online navigator. No TT needed, just use a service/website to navigate

-advertisement on location, when you get near a MacD you get a text about their newest burger

-restaurants or POI near your location

:)
[P3600 General] Guybrush:
we'll know all when a hero disassemble his trinity for first
[P3600 General] XenoV:
That's exacly what I mean :)

Why should I pay extra for such service? I don't need/want advertisements thrown at me. All other so called LBS features I can do also with standalone GPS and simple low speed GPRS. So where is the added value I should pay for? :)
[P3600 General] anonimo:
This is totally off topic now but just clarify: you can't have a buddy list in your phone with location of other buddies unless this is provided by your network operator, you can't search a dating system where people having a drink in the same pub as you are shown first in the list :) Maybe you are not interested in these services but if you were then there would be an added value to pay for.
[P3600 General] XenoV:
Yes I can have LBS without need for a network operator service.

I do not need a network operator for LBS and I do not need A-GPS for LBS. Any computer connected to Internet can provide LBS. The only thing you need in your mobile device is a standalone GPS and a data connection for internet.

GPS will soon become a standard feature in mobile phones, just like Bluetooth and GPRS. As a result of that there will be soon a wide range of "free of charge" LBS through internet. Including buddy lists, dating systems, car parking systems and whatever more you can think of.

Just watch for instance the upcomming - near future - windows life developments. They are going - amongst others - also into this direction. Again no need for paid network operator support.

And yes, I am very interested in LBS, but not as a paid and limmited service by network operators :)
[P3600 General] Lucas0511:
Fact is, operators would already be happy if you just use their data services more, since they thought they could refinance their 3G licence and network development through it. LBS Buddy lists and all the like - Swisscom had it already a few years back, and customers where passing on it. Maybe a flat rate data plan (like mine at 32 dollars/month for unlimited 3G/GPRS) could help introduce LBS services. But in order to pay i.e. a parking spot in my city I only need to send a SMS with the number of the spot... :-)
[P3600 General] Matterhorn:
Yes, $wi$$com is a total rippoff. I don't know who they have working in their marketing department, but they should be fired. They could make so much more money if they just had an affordable unlimited plan. As it is, people are afraid (with good reason) to access any services because they think it is going to cause a CHF 200. + mobile phone bill. Those data charges do add up fast. Once they offered me an unlimited plan...I knew it was too good to be true, I ran up a CHF 250. bill using my phone as a modem for my laptop. It turns out the plan was only for their little in house system and not the entire internet. Their advertising was totally misleading.
[P3600 General] anonimo:
Yes I see your point. We will get there. But today an operator can offer LBS to millions of subscribers with standard GSM phones, while I personally don't know a single person with a GPS-enabled phone. Obviously two or three years from now things will be different.
[P3600 General] IamGuest:
I am your hero. :D

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=285090
[P3600 General] Guybrush:
great!! ;) i'll look now :P
[P3600 General] neofix:
Nice:) Great work!
[P3600 General] helten2:
This confirms the previous analysis by Solopalmari (http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/) and confirms that the HTC P3600 actually contains a full (hardware) GPS solution. Only thing missing from the pictures is the RFR6250 chip that I presume is one of the two partially hidden chips in the upper part of the front board.

The RFR6250 chip contains the actual GPS-receiver: http://www.cdmatech.com/news/releases/2003/031106_rfr6250.jsp (could only find a press release).

The rest of the supplementary chips for the MSM6275 are present on the board: http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/diagram_msm6275_cs.pdf

Now we are only waiting for that firmware update ;)
[P3600 General] neofix:
For you guys with a bit more tech-knowledge: Keen on filling us up on what the different parts do? :)
[P3600 General] IamGuest:
I found that chip.

:)
[P3600 General] :
Does this mean that the Trinity has AGPS capability ONLY, and you'll still need an external GPS receiver?
[P3600 General] Guybrush:
Did you found the chip RGR6200 ?
[P3600 General] XenoV:
No, the RFR6250 chip is the actual GPS receiver, so you will not need an external GPS receiver :D
[P3600 General] XenoV:
YESSS !!! YOU ARE !!!
[P3600 General] horatio.pants:
So to try and gauge whether HTC will ever enable this on the Trinity I'll ask a question about their past behaviour:

Has HTC ever officially released updated ROM's for it's other pda phones, and if so how many updates have they issued and how long since initial release did it take for the first?
[P3600 General] Guybrush:
the GPS receiver is "QUALCOMM’s RGR6200™ GPS radio receiver" this is integrate into RFR6250 chip... so no sirfstar III and no FM radio seem...

i'd like to know accuracy of qualcomm gps in standalone mode... because the only information i found is 5 meters in GpsOne mode with radio signals... :(
[P3600 General] adewidt:
You dont need the RGR6200.

The RGR6200 is build-in the RFR6250

source

The diagram for the RFR6250
[P3600 General] Guybrush:
yes I know... I saw it before... but what about accuracy of this chipset ? It's a pitty there isn't a sirf star III... the same chips are also in HTC TyTN.
[P3600 General] adewidt:
Good question,

I am still not sure if the RFR6250 can fully work as standalone GPS or need an extra chip like SirfStar III.
[P3600 General] XenoV:
The RFR6250 is a fully functional GPS receiver. The only additional component needed is the actual receiving antenna connected to the pre-LNA input.
[P3600 General] muxul_man:
Hello...

If you read carefully the text of both HTC, you will find something that's equal just with one difference... In the P3600 it's written the "HTC P3600 supports standalone GPS*" and in the HTC P3300 "Standalone GPS and TomTom NAVIGATOR 6". :confused:

So... let's wait...:rolleyes:
[P3600 General] Guybrush:
maybe there's some chip we can't see... but i don't believe there's another GPS except RFR6250.... as there isn't a FM radio on board :(
[P3600 General] remixme:
Direct links to pdf's.....

Pretty much confirming what we know already

General GpsOne info:

http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/gpsone.pdf

MSM6275 info:

http://www.umtschips.com/download_library/pdf/msm6275_chipset.pdf

People might want to check in the TYTN thread as well for info on msm6275

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279151
[P3600 General] sectorlord:
Im confused with this GPS thing ....?

Is the chip in question also found in Hermes ?

Will hermes also has the same GPS potential as Trinity ?

Wanted to buy the trinity as backup phone ... but wanbted to confirm the GPS thing ....

Will it have it later ?

Thanks
[P3600 General] mmone3:
From what I have read so far it looks like hermes is missing the RFR6250 chip which is the gps receiver.
[P3600 General] sectorlord:
...and trinity has this chip ?
[P3600 General] The_Stranger:
Apperently yes, the hero who dared open his trinity gave us some pics

(his pic, not mine)
[P3600 General] Gtot:
The chip is also present in the Hermes....

Gtot
[P3600 General] firstime911:
speed

I wonder if this Trinity will have GPS,

the GPS chip speed (GPS usage) can be compare with Artemis?

I really confuse what to buy now between Artemis and Trinity -_-"
[P3600 General] Guybrush:
if you want buy just for GPS choose Artemis... the chip is much better... if you need umts choose trinity.
[P3600 General] victoradjei:
I bought artemis for now and waiting until Trinity gets GPS. UMTS is not an issue for me now:)
[P3600 General] firstime911:
Sorry what is UMTS??
[P3600 General] remixme:
Seriously.....but google and wikipedia are wonderful tools, please search before asking questions.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS
[P3600 General] anonimo:
www.google.com

ops... I was slow...
[P3600 General] rodnav:
well... what's the verdict of the group? will it or will it not have gps built in???

in the process of replacing my benq p50...

trying to pick whether it's the hermes or the trinity...
[P3600 General] :
I'm getting the Globalsat BT-359 GPS receiver whether the Trinity's internal GPS is activated or not. I just don't see how anything can be as accurate as SiRF III or Nemerex chipsets.
[P3600 General] XenoV:
Just read the threat and you will know just as much as we do :)
[P3600 General] XenoV:
Navigation packages work also very excellent with a little less accuracy (if this is noticable at all). The big point of the whole discussion is to have an in-build GPS which is much more convenient than an external GPS to carry around, charge etc.
[P3600 General] XenoV:
Latest official statement from HTC found in a Dutch forum:

Source: http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_message/27076342#27076342
[P3600 General] Matterhorn:
Exactly, I already have a BT GPS. I'll use it in my car with the BT GPS on the dashboard. When I'm walking around I hope to be able to use the built-in GPS.
[P3600 General] saminegm:
I have a car GPS built in my radio which has TMC and I use it for driving (because of TMC). I have a BT TomTom MkII which I used with my Axim and I am using it with my Trinity now. Works great biking or walking. Battery lasts quite long (at least a whole day) and its not heavy at all. I can recommend this solution. Of course having GPS internally activated would be nice....
[P3600 General] IamGuest:
I got this info too.

Dopod International will send the Test Rom for me in Jan or Feb'07.

He said this rom will enable the GPS functions of this device (Dopod D810:Trinity).

I got ,you got. :)
[P3600 General] adewidt:
Great news :)
[P3600 General] XenoV:
Super news :D

Dopod=HTC so HTC has scheduled the software for jan/feb next year.

Thanks for sharing and we will look forward to your future postings !!
[P3600 General] Lucas0511:
The new ROM with GPS functions enabled is under testing at Orange for few weeks already, but the "testing" phase could well extend into February, so no "official" release for quite a while. But I agree a test ROM would do for us :-))))
[P3600 General] SaarAvigour:
All isso nice but where is the GPS Antenna

I'm following this discussion from starts, I agree that in as much as there's a HTC brochure mentioning black on white that GPS will be activated soon it will be (otherwise remember what happened to HP when promissing a 65K upgrade to their old Jornadas)...

But even say that 3600 has a GPSOne hardware inside, where would be the internal GPS Antenna... don't think there is one, neither I see any external socket for external patch Antenna... hmm ... hope it isn't a marketing spin after all..

=====

Saar
[P3600 General] Lucas0511:
Good point, the GPSone has three GPS modes, network, device-based, standalone. We might only see the modes required for A-GPS - the one function i.e. Orange is interested in, to make $$. And HTC could still claim to have enabled "GPS"-functions. Time will tell... :-)))
[P3600 General] zkip:
afaik a gps Antenna only needs be very small - may look like a 20mm square foil sheet stuck to the case or be as big as the pointy bit at the end of a stylus. some one else may know better.
[P3600 General] bouaroudj:
It is reported on this site that the GPS solution has been tested on the orange version, the qualcomm chip uses the com 9 port. It's also said that it's less accurate than the sirf star III :

http://www.mobinaute.com/mobinaute/article.php?id=20061207175319
[P3600 General] sectorlord:
GPS on Dopod D810

Just browsing the Manual... and on the Table of content...

"A3 (appendix 3) - How to use the GPS"

But the page A3 is missing...
[P3600 General] anonimo:
Not in the english version of the manual that can be downloaded from the HTC website. In that document appendix 3 is "Specifications".
[P3600 General] calvinyuen:
I bought HTC P3600 (D810) already. I am wondering why HTC disabled the GPS function of P3600. It didn't benefit to their product coz it can sell higher if P3600 enhanced with GPS function. I can't find any reason that HTC didn't release it.

But there are a lot of rumor keep stay around us, said the GPS function will enable soon by software upgrade. I would say that it may come from the related parties to drive us to buy it and wait for the G.... P.....S!
[P3600 General] mmone3:
I'm keeping my fingers crossed that someone leaks the orange gps enabled test...
[P3600 General] laurent865:
hello

rfr6250 http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/ensemble14.php

Hello everyone,

Here the photographs of the chip rfr6250 or must connect the antenna

rfr6250 http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/ensemble14.php

And here an overall picture on the 9600htc

http://www.zimagez.com/zimage/general1.php

Now which can say to me or I must weld the antenna ?

mail laurent865@hotmail.com
[P3600 General] adejager1:
??????

not quite getting the message? what do you want to weld and what for?

Like what you did to your trinity:D
[Sony Xperia T2 Ultra] nil.d:
Can i use base rom to port Paranoid for T2 Ultra dual, Since there is no CM source available for our device. If somebody tell me the porting process for Paranoid android it would be so helpful..

Thanks in advance!
[Sony Xperia T2 Ultra] Ashwin Prabhunerurkar:
that wont work under any circumstances

and dont worry cm and other roms are not far away

i have tested cm 11 and mokkee 4.4.4

they will be released for public in august

currently they just booting and apps working and bt working

no ril,no audio,no,video
[Sony Xperia T2 Ultra] nil.d:
Thats, Great..Please tell if you need any help regarding that..I would love to!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] so_artistic_:
Alright so Im having a problem, i bought the htc one m8 sprint version, and a system update came out for it. It was urgent it said and installed itself on my phone. After a while of using it my phone started force closing and rebooting constantly, to the point where i couldn't do anything.(my device was rooted before it was installed, the boot loader was unlocked and TWRP installed). I went to my TWRP settings to try and uninstall the update and somehow managed to wipe EVERYTHING in my phone, and it now says i have no OS installed. when i try to boot my device it gets stuck in the HTC load screen with the green logo, white background, and t says powered by android at the bottom and it goes no further. I tried to side load the viper one ROM and the G-apps and its saying its successful. But its still getting stuck in the load screen. I tried to go to my backups in TWRP restore and all of the ones are empty. can anyone help?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] i3axap:
Go into fastboot, flash the latest TWRP, sideload or copy onto a sdcard a nandroid backup and back it up through twrp. that should do it
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osamaxosama:
same problem

please help in this issue

i had same problem after wiping everything, i still can go to TWRP recovery, but no OS install !!!

how do i get original KITKAT OS for my M8 ????
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elsworth1983:
Have a look here & make sure you read the guide as it's easy as 1,2,3 ?

Renovated
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osamaxosama:
thats not helping.

where is the guide ??:angel:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr Hofs:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2824193

In the same section as where you posted in ;)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elsworth1983:
Looks like my ? never posted ?

Renovated
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osamaxosama:
thanks

but really i am confused which rom to download !!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr Hofs:
Roms here are custom roms. If you want your true original software i suggest you read up in my nandroid collection thread. Check my sig for the link.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] osamaxosama:
it worked with me, if you need any help, i may help, step by step.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
I'm always surprised and disappointed how many posts go like this "I wipe system, so why don't I have an OS?"

If you don't know what it is, why on earth are you wiping it?????
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr Hofs:
That behaviour reminds me of my 3 year old son....always touching and tapping the laptop but has no clue what he's doing.....but the difference is he's allowed to, he can't READ !

:)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subarudroid:
I'll be honest... I did this when I first got it. twrp was saying no OS installed so I got nervous and wipe happy, accidentally wiped it all. Lol. Goid thing I knew what I was doing though.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Yeah, but you knew what you had done (and how to recover) right?

Its the "I wiped OS guys, why don't I have an OS now?" that bugs me.

Usually accompanied by "I didn't bother to make a nandroid, have a ROM zip handy on the phone, or have adb setup".

I mean, we all make mistakes. Especially early on. But to make such a mistake, not be able to figure out (the fairly obvious) reason why it happened, and have made no preparations for recovery . . . its just not the right way to go about things.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subarudroid:
Well I didn't fully understand what I had done until I swiped..... :-o just cause I was being a moron. But I knew full well how to sideload. I guess I can understand why we are seeing these cause twrp has some partition problems plus from what I've read GE & sense have different partitions as well. So flashing a custom recovery that says NO OS can freak some newbs out. And apparently me a little as well. :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcarico:
Help

I have a similar issue. My phone says no os. I can still get to twrp but nothing is there. no backups, no nothing. I've tried flashing ruu's and side loading but nothing takes. I keep getting errors. My boot loader is still unlocked, but now says s-on. Can anyone help?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subarudroid:
Now it says s-on? I'm assuming you did firewater or sunshine then, and successfully got s-off. That's rather odd. You best best in my opinion is to get an external SD and dump a ROM on it. Also check for the unofficial twrp in original development under..... Oh crap I'll post it here. Hold up

---------- Post added at 06:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:32 PM ----------

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54054835

---------- Post added at 06:36 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:34 PM ----------

Also highjacking is frowned upon. In the interest of not wanting to see another thread with the same damb title

:)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcarico:
When I try to flash a zip thru adb I keep getting FAILED (remote not allowed)

any idea how to get around that? I also tried several different roms on external sd card but they would not flash. Kept getting failed on twrp
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subarudroid:
Signature verification failed? What does getvar all say? Please post results? Did you achieve s-off before?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] redpoint73:
Did you do a factory reset in bootloader? This should

never

be done on a modded phone, as it corrupts the phone's internal memory. I haven't seen the issue of going back to S-on before on this device. But the other symptoms seem indicative of internal memory corruption.
[Xperia Z Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rockyy:
Hello, i bricked my phone with the XZkernel v25.

1. I unlocked my phone

2. i rooted the phone

3. i installed XZdualrecovery

4. i copied the xzkernel to my phone

5. i started TWRP to flash the kernel.

6. the aroma installer started and told me i should not use dualrecovery so it asked me to install xperia recovery

7. i said yes and the installer told me i have to uninstall xzdualrecovery before i can install xperia recovery

8. i said yes and he started everything

9. after some seconds i watched again on my phone and saw how the screen was going black/showing TWRP menu every 1second... after 1minute watching this i managed to click in TWRP the reboot button and clicked "system" then the screen went black and nothing happend.

10. now when i click "power on" it vibrates and nothing more... when i hold the button pressed it vibrates every 5s

I already tried the sony mobile update service (no phone found) then i tried the flashtool...

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Opening device for R/W

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Reading device information

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Unable to read from phone after having opened it.

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - trying to continue anyway

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Start Flashing

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Processing loader.sin

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Checking header

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - ERROR - Processing of loader.sin finished with errors.

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Ending flash session

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - ERROR - Error in processHeader : 1167 : Das Gerät ist nicht angeschlossen. [The Phone is not connected]

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - ERROR - Error flashing. Aborted

20/025/2014 18:25:17 - INFO - Device connected in flash mode

i fixed the Brick... The problem was that my camera was on a second USB cable connected... and it seems flashtool doesnt like another USB device...
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Hi guys,

Is anyone else having issues with Touchless controls and gmail-message timestamps? I've noticed this happening before, and decided it was time to ask.

So I just used touchless controls, and said "OK Google Now, What's Up?"

The phone responded with "Hi There. The Time is 12:20 PM. You have 5 gmail messages waiting for your review, the last message was sent at 12:17PM"

OK, great! So I open gmail, only to find that the last message was sent at 10:52 AM. I refresh multiple times - still last message at 10:52 AM...

So I grab the laptop, and check gmail there. Same thing - last message @ 10:52 AM.....

And as I've said its not the first time it has happened. I will be keeping a close eye on this and update further.....but anyone else having this issue?

I just don't understand where it is getting the 12:17 PM time....I even checked spam and nope, no messages since before 9AM. And since I've been writing this message, I did receive another gmail message, but it is 12:28 PM (not 12:17 PM).....

Google Now seems confused, but I'm very curious as to WHY? Any comments / ideas / suggestions?
[Moto X Q&A] Darth:
Is Google now getting your location wrong? Is location on?

That's all I got. Lol
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Nope, location is correct. It's on and set to "high accuracy".

Even if it were "off" a timezone, it still should have said the last message was sent at: (something):52 and not (something):17

-Really- wierd... It hasn't done it again today, but I will make note the next time it does.
[Moto X Q&A] nijom:
Sadness is!!

When I say "Ok Google Now Whats up", it searches Google and comes up with search results!:crying:
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Are you using a moto x, with the built in touchless controls? This feature is specific to the moto x, ultra, mini, and maxx.
[Moto X Q&A] nijom:
Yes my bad! My phone is few meters away.

XT1052 Indian :(
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Maybe check for updates then? IIRC, this feature was added during a recent update to "Touchless Controls".
[Moto X Q&A] nijom:
I've everything updated.... :(

will post a screenshot from my phone shortly
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Out of ideas....

Perhaps Moto never released that update for the XT1052 :confused:

You are on the lastest Android version for your variant?