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[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Have downloaded today's nightly which I hope contains the new kernel by [MENTION=4855459]Blechd0se[/MENTION], will install later in evening today & provide feedback by tomorrow. Lets hope for the better.

Installed today's nightly & checked out, found No improvement, the problem is still there.
[Defy General] AayushT:
When you talked to Vodafone what did they tell you? Do they no more make/have the sims with larger area?
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
When it comes to customer support & especially for someone with a very rare issue that someone is facing they are the least concerned.

I explained the whole situation to them with photographs of the sim comparison, they plainly say that you are the only one complaining & no one else is. further there is no problem with the sim & your handset is faulty which you should get checked. They also denied a possibility of atleast searching / providing such sim i.e with large metal contacts. Each time I reply them explaining the problem they just keep on saying the same thing i.e faulty handset. I even requested to activate my postpaid connection from the old prepaid sim which was working satisfactorily, they say activating a postpaid connection on prepaid sim is not possible.

So I hope the number of persons complaining should have to grow which can highlight them that there is really such an issue, but seems it will not be possible in the very near future because many peoples like us out in the world using DEFY+ are currently using their old sims & hence are not facing problem & they will face the same issue as soon as they may go a sim change, just a speculation.

But with the same sim working properly in stock rom I hope there are some changes required in the CM version, bcoz if it would have been a sim related issue then stock rom should also have harassed us which is not happening. Will keep a watch on how todays nightly performs, if its going to provide atleast a 2 day backup on single charge then would continue using or Stock rom is the only choice for us.

I really appreciate the efforts that [MENTION=4483948]pradeeppk[/MENTION] had put in to help us.

Would like to know what version you are currently using on your DEFY+.
[Defy General] pradeeppk:
I am still using 24/7 and very satisfied. Have you tried the boosted governer . I get only 2% discharge during 7 hours sleep.

Also please uninstall cell broadcast apk and STK apk from system. A try. These are based on sim services.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
I was on 24/07 but it was not running smooth felt a bit slow, hence installed 30/07 but this one also feels slow, I have already removed STK will also remove Cell Broadcast, but how is your experience with 24/07 is it running super smooth, I felt it a bit laggy.
[Defy General] pradeeppk:
As I said earlier (screenshot of system apps attached previously)

Few basic system apps, holo launcher insted of trebuchet, without gapps, (why we need gapps, Google play services alone consume a lot of ram), removed location based apk's, boosted governor with some tweaks(for more battery), using autostarts apk to disable some apps start during booting. Ucbrowser,(browser uninstalled) esfileexporer, expense manager, tapatalk, links2sd, player pro for music (appolo uninstalled), whatsapp, quickpic,(gallery uninstalled), to do reminder (calendar and calendar storage, alarm clock uninstalled), aerocontroll, mxplayer are the only user apps.

I have always available around 240 mb ram (Ucbrowser is the only one which use more ram, so I will exit it after use), also around 300 mb ram available after boot. I am always backup my contacts to sdcard, so no need to sync with Google for contacts.

What I mean by super smooth is according to our defy's hardware. I am previously used lot of ROMs from 2.2 stock, ms2ginger, wiui, cm7, etc. But now we using KitKat with our old hardware. I don't get or expect more or equal smooth performance than my Motorola electrify which have dual core and 1 GB ram hardware
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
I use Apex Launcher, remove unwanted apps from APP directory, use firefox instead of CM browser, greenify to prevent unwanted apps to startup, battery doctor for charging, other thing I use as replacement for CM ones includes ES file explorer, JetAudio / Winamp, MX player. I also have Xposed Framework installed as it is required by Greenify & Better Battery Stats.

Gapps I need for contacts backup & to access PLAY. Further I also do not like installing GAPPS but never got a chance to do without it, will try this time, I have currently installed 24/07 Nightly again & not installed GAPPS. So now how can I have access to GOOGLE PLAY for downloading apps without google play. Contacts I will get exported & Import.

This time I may trouble you a lot while configuring, pls bear with me. Hope we were neighbours.
[Defy General] AayushT:
Using 21/07 Nightly. Phone is fairly smooth and i don't get lags. I removed a few system apps before flashing the rom and i use Gapps. One noob question though, where would I get all the apps in case I don't flash Gapps?

I've tried switching my phone's preferred network between 2G and 3G and it's no good. This deepsleep issue is quite annoying.

Also is there any post where i can learn about governor settings?

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@mahadikrs

I think it is a sim issue. Because my battery is performing well with the other sim. I hope that experts are able to fix this in CM11 (could be something with it).

Also did you have to face reboots during calls in 30th July Nightly?

And i can't possibly go back to stock rom. I can deal with poor battery performance but not with super slow, laggy phone. When using stock rom and using almost same apps, i have to struggle to keep the ram free. It takes the phone 10+ seconds to initiate a call. And my wifi sleep policy is powersaving, so after 15 minutes of inactivity the wifi turns off, and when i switch on the screen the wifi turns on and if i get whatsapp messages, it would take the phone around 15 seconds to respond. Apart from these there are a few other issues with the stock rom. So stock rom is not an option.

And the version i'm using is 21st July, as i wrote in the previous post.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Regarding not flashing GAPPS, I am also thinking of the same i.e how to access google play for downloading apps, for existing I have a backup of apps with me, but how about new apps is my query.

I did not face any reboots on 30/07, i found it not running smooth as compared to earlier version, so I am back on 24/07. Even I remove unwanted system apps & use alternate ones, you can find the info in my previous post.

Regarding setting governor setting you may try to google it or may be the below link shall help you a bit.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2564785

Even I am fed up with this issue but currently I keep my phone in flight mode intermittently during day time say for 10-15 minutes & sometimes whole night, it helps a lot.
[Defy General] pradeeppk:
For governor settings use Aerocontrol app. I am always backup apps using esfileexplorer. After flashing a new ROM I will create a twrp back up.

Then I will flash gapps, add account, download apps or updates, backup those apps, create another twrp back up of system and data and then again flash the same ROM or restore the first twrp backup. If you need gapps just restore the backup which contain gapps. It only take one or two minute.

This is my way to avoid gapps .......
[Defy General] AayushT:
[MENTION=5907774]mahadikrs[/MENTION]

Just to be sure, i tried another sim, and it was a smaller area sim. Surprisingly the phone went into deep sleep. It was a prepaid sim. So now my guess is that the postpaid sim is causing issue. I'm going to get my sim changed, just to be sure. And if you can, please try a postpaid sim with larger area.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
I myself have two vodafone sims one is Postpaid which I use in my handset & other is a prepaid which I use in a USB dongle for internet, both sims are with smaller metal contact area. Initially I also thought that postpaid sim is the cause for this trouble & hence for testing purpose I used the prepaid sim in the handset but found that it too is behaving the same way i.e not allowing to enter in deep sleep mode. After reading your response will once again try today.

In the meanwhile I hope you should go for a sim change & check out, but the question is will they allow as I hope if you approach for sim change they will check your sim in their handset and check if it is working & if found active they will not allow, may be you will have to damage your sim for getting it changed, else they argue too much.

I also wanted to test a postpaid sim with large contact area but found no one in my friend circle with such a sim, the search is on & as soon as get a chance will try out & let you know.

Can you check out & let me know one thing, the post paid sim I am using is a newer sim NORMAL SIM + MICRO SIM i.e with cut out for converting into micro sim just by pushing the cutout, may be this cutout can also cause problem, just a possibility. Check out you sim how is it with cutout or without cutout.
[Defy General] AayushT:
Hey

I had a chance to visit the Vodafone customer care, i told them the issue and the customer care executive didn't check the sim for any damages and agreed to change the sim instantly when i asked to change it. Though he just didn't seem to understand anything i said but nodded like he did. I did not have any ID with me, so couldn't get it done. Will get it done today.

And my current sim is a normal one. It is just a mini sim and can only be converted into micro sim if i cut it with one of those sim cutters.

I will do some more checks i can to figure the problem out. Hope the new sim works for me.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Great, thats really a good news you got the sim changed. Also glad to hear that its a normal sim without cutout for micro sim, but I suspect its still with the smaller metal contacts, pls do let me know. But I hope this sim is really going to help us a lot to pinpoint the actual problem.

Good luck.:good:

Waiting for your feedback, if all goes well I too will head for a sim change.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
What about your new sim did you get it.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Performance After Installing 24/07 Build.

24/07 Build seems to be very nice & stable. Deep Sleep performance I achieved since the last install of 24/07 Nightly i.e on 31st JUL 2014. Was having Deep sleep issue in the same but found the below results after making some changes, Changed the Governor to BOOSTED I hope & still trying to recollect what other changes I did. Will let know as soon as I recollect.

But can't say am satisfied with the below results as the same can be very temporary, will be monitoring the same after another Charge / Reboot.
[Defy General] AayushT:
Hey,

Sorry for not being able to reply earlier. Didn't mean any offense. I was busy with something. Couldn't get anytime to get my sim replaced.

Glad to hear that you have been able to find a workaround. I am sensing that we might be able to find the solution or the exact problem soon.

I too use boosted governor in 21 July build, but it's no good on that. Will try the 24 july build as soon as i can.

I went to the link with Quarx's buildbot nightly, and the earliest nightly hosted there is 25th July. So i can't try the 24th July nightly. Do you have it stored somewhere online? If yes, can i get a link?
[Defy General] pradeeppk:
[MENTION=5963086]AayushT[/MENTION]

Yesterday's result. 3% loss in 7 hours 30 minutes. 24/7 with blechdos kernel
[Defy General] AayushT:
Great!

Which nightly are you using? And are you using the new kernel by Blechd0se or the old one?

I hope on the 24 July nightly and boosted governor, [MENTION=5907774]mahadikrs[/MENTION] is also getting good battery backup.

I am still losing around 16 to 20 percent in about 5 hours or something.

By the way [MENTION=4483948]pradeeppk[/MENTION], do you by any chance have the 24th July nightly uploaded somewhere, like your dropbox or something? Because i want to try it but unfortunately, the earliest nightly available on Quarx's website is 25 July as on 3rd August. So can't download it from there.
[Defy General] pradeeppk:
24/7 nightly, blechdose 28/7 kernel, interactive governor and without gapps. But earlier I have 2% drop in 7 hour with 24/7, default kernel and boosted governed.

My Internet speed is slow. But if you need it i will try to upload, after my office time.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Pls don't feel sorry for not replying, I know we all are working peoples & we get time only after our daily work routine, so for these things we need to squeeze out time from our busy schedule.

As stated in my earlier post that I am not satisfied with the result & can come to conclusion only after a reboot or another charge. My suspicion came to be a fact as soon as I rebooted the deep sleep problem started to show its effect, so still no permanent solution for our problem. Also I said I was trying to recollect some change I made, the change I did was selected network manually instead of automatically. Now with the situation as it is the only workaround as per my experiments is as stated below, the previous results were achieved from this method only, this needs to be done at night prior to going to sleep.

1) Charge your phone to its full extent i.e 100%.

2) As soon as you are finished with your charging, then unplug charger put the handset in Flight mode.

3) Reboot the phone in Flight mode itself.

3) Then go to sleep & let the handset sleep with flight mode on.

4) The next morning when you wake up you will see almost 95 plus deep sleep, now turn off flight mode & resume network activity, the deep sleep will remain for a long time.

Hope you will try out the above steps & pls provide a feedback, may be before you try out your new sim.

Unfortunately I do not have storage online so cannot provide you the 24/07 nifghtly, may be [MENTION=4483948]pradeeppk[/MENTION] can help you out as he said.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Quick Note for new users viewing this post for solution to a similar problem.

For Users with similar problem pls find below a temporary workaround as a solution, For achieving better deep sleep results this activity needs to be done at night prior to going to sleep.

1) Charge your phone to its full extent i.e 100%.

2) As soon as you are finished with your charging, then unplug charger put the handset in Flight mode.

3) Reboot the phone in Flight mode itself.

3) Then go to sleep & let the handset sleep with flight mode on.

4) The next morning when you wake up you will see almost 90-95 plus deep sleep ( pls note the deep sleep %tage may vary for users ), now turn off flight mode & resume network activity, the deep sleep will remain for a long time.
[Defy General] AayushT:
Tried, but didn't happen to me. After i turned off flight mode, the phone didn't go into deepsleep.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Very Surprising, but this trick is working on my handset, I have tried it several times. Yet today if I get chance I am going to reflash 24/07 nightly, will check again whether the trick works.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
As I said yesterday reflashed again CM11 Nightly 24/07, Clean install 24/07 Nightly with Gapps & AOSP Calendar Sync & only CPU Spy Installed & Network operator selected as Automatic, Find below screenshot for results, one for Deepsleep after a night sleep of about 11PM - 6AM & another with network ON two hours after resuming network activity. Will try to check again after setting network to Manual Search.

P.S :- Found a colleague with a vodafone postpaid card but with normal metal contacts, so there is a possibility of checking this card in my handset & monitor. Hope after this trial atleast we can now pinpoint whether there is problem only with postpaid connection. Will let know about the same.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Test Results with Another SIM but postaod with normal metal contacts.

As informed earlier today, Got to test another Postpaid sim but with normal i.e big metal contacts find below screen shots of the deep sleep results & photo of metal contacts of the sim I used for testing, the results once again point towards the regular suspect i.e smaller metal contacts. So now it is clear that being a postpaid / prepaid is not making any difference, but the matter of concern is the smaller size of metal contacts which our current sims are with. So now I am also myself trying to search vodafone stores for postpaid sim with normal metal contacts.
[Defy General] AayushT:
Tried a new sim. With smaller metal contacts. No good! Still no deepsleep. And the vodafone prepaid sims are same too. They told me tat these used to be different, but now are same design wise.

I tried a prepaid sim with small metal contacts and i was able to achieve about 90% deepsleep. So i'm still nowhere with the issue.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Do you mean to say you got your sim replaced & again this sim is with small metal contacts. If yes Why did you not check the contacts before getting it replaced, you can request, I did the same.

A ray of hope for me today, as I said I will myself try to search vodafone stores for postpaid sim with normal metal contacts, was able to locate one store near my area with old stock I hope, but had to explain & argue a lot & then ended up finding the right sim i.e with normal metal contact but also ended up paying for SIM replacement Rs. 125/- a bit expensive. They think we are fools talking about battery draining due to sim, such things never happen get your handsets checked.

So it will take another 24 hours for activation, will keep you posted about the result, may God have mercy on me & this sim works perfectly.

As you said prepaid sim with smaller metal contact worked fine in your handset, whereas it worked problematic in my handset.

Do let me know about what happened to your sim & also were you able to install the 24/07 Nightly.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Test Results with new replacement sim with large metal contacts.

New Replacement SIM received on 06th AUG Evening got activated today Evening. Inserted the sim just 2 hours ago & found the handset is working fine even after being on calls for a while the current deep sleep is 82%, so can expect that the nuisance is finally over. Will test the same for today night & check deep sleep tomorrow morning on wakeup, should be able to get 90+ deep sleep, then its really finally over & we can conclude that the sims with smaller metal contacts are the real culprits.

Thank God.

P.S :- Deep Sleep %tage reached 87% from 82% at 6:51PM, really great thing.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Final Conclusion on the SIM related Deep Sleep Issue.

Have been constantly testing the new sim right from its activation. So far I am seeing a deep sleep percentage of about 85-90% in the morning when I wake up. Regarding the percentages in day time its between 80-90% most of the time with on calls & some 2g activity like using whatsapp. Not that bad.

So there is really something in the newer sims may be a change of technology / circuitry which our DEFY+ is allergic to especially when running on CM versions as compared to Stock ROM in which there is no issue at all. So as per my experiments & experience this issue is mostly experienced by users with newer sims but with small metal contact areas, so far I have no data to support my suspicion as only one user @AayushT out of all accessing this post have reverted back with similar issue, hope further new readers of this post will provide such data.

Finally to get rid of this issue reverting back to a sim with normal or large metal contact area is the only solution or the following temporary workaround is feasible but pls take a note that this needs to be done at night prior to going to sleep.

1) Charge your phone to its full extent i.e 100%.

2) As soon as you are finished with your charging, then unplug charger put the handset in Flight mode.

3) Reboot the phone in Flight mode itself.

4) Then go to sleep & let the handset sleep with flight mode on.

5) The next morning when you wake up you will see almost 95 plus deep sleep, now turn off flight mode

& resume network activity, the deep sleep will remain for a long time.

Still Waiting for further experiences from other readers............
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
APN Screen shots for @AayushT

[MENTION=5963086]AayushT[/MENTION] , as required find the screen shots of APNs. I could not find an option to attach the same in PM, very strange is there any such option never searched previously.
[Defy General] AayushT:
I'm unable to use the mobile data. I don't know why. I have the same settings except for MNC which is 60 because i'm in Rajasthan. Are you able to use mobile data?
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Yes I am able to use data, currently I am using only 2g but it works fine, just experiencing problem retreiving MMS never tried sending, will try some day.
[Defy General] AayushT:
Just found something. I found recently after reading the post i mentioned that it could be because the sim is trying to access data or mms but it can not so it keeps trying all the time. So i trying my internet connection but i was barred from using the mobile data. So when i got the barring removed my phone goes to deepsleep for about 15%. Before it was always below 1%.

So there might be some other things too like this that could be doing this. I tried to explain the executives in the Vodafone care center that the older sims used to have bigger contact area, and they thought i was crazy. So currently stuck with the same sim.

BTW good to know that you are done with this.
[Defy General] mahadikrs:
Really feeling relieved after reverting back to a sim with normal contact area.

On 10th AUG at 11:00 PM I charged my handset fully & till today 7:00PM I was able to use it with 35% charge still remaining

I am still surprised that this thing really mattered, but I still suspect there is some technical change in the newer sims contributing to this problem & may be our favourite CM11 is not able to handle this change giving rise to this specific problem.

Hope you too will get such a sim soon, try finding a vodafone store with old stock as I suggested, do not expect any help from Vodafone customer care centre & executives they really do not understand our problem & trust us, they think we are fools having faulty handsets but talking about such a silly problem.
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[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sparklesmarie:
I can't figure it out my home button on my mega was just working properly, and now it's not. How do I fix this? The home button no longer wakes my phone up. When my mega screen goes off i must press the power button on the side to get my screen to turn on. Please believe me when I say the system settings are enabling it to wake device. I did install pimp my android hrs before this occurred and I've carefully gone back through the modifications and nothing .still having the same issue, please help.

From my metropcs samsung galaxy mega
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] poch_m:
While using the phone, after it has been woken up, does the home button work?

If no, its clearly a hardware problem

if yes, a factory reset might do the trick