yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
Did you use "root check"?

I used your program successfully but "root check" told "not root"

I still can not move my apps to the card

Sorry for my english i m french
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] cityshark_cz:
Have you restarted?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
Yes

"Sdfix" said "Fix succes" and "root check" Said "No"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Brcinskij:
Hi all,

any ideas how to install cyanogen mod ROM?

or how to swap storage, cause max 1,9 GB of free internal storage space is fcking low...

moving files to SD is just a little solution, cause it wont let you to install larger apps than max amount of your free internal space..

I cant figure it out, I am totally sick of it, cause device is not supported by Odin, clockwork, and others to make it work.

Thanks
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] shad0wrun:
apps to sd on kitkat

Achieving root is one thing. I then applied a patch to allow app to external sd on kitkat and it worked as well but it's still a no go. i don't understand why selling a 4gb phone with kitkat knowing perfectly that google removed the possibility to write apps to sd. or i'm missing something there ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Brcinskij:
You are right man, I dont understand it too, I have a nexus 7 tablet with internal storage only, and I never wonder about problem like this. It is totally insane to sell phone like this without ability to install apps directly to sd.

I wrote to cat few days ago about this bad experience and they sent me this answer (They are kidding me or what???):

Thank you for contacting CAT Phone support, we are currently receiving a high volume of emails so please accept our apologies for the inconvenience and for any delay in getting back to you.

Further support options can be found at the following Web site.

www catphones com/en-gb/support aspx

CAT Phone Support Team

It is really bad for us, owners of this phone, cause root is really fine, yes, but we are not able to install custom Roms, until someone figure it out.

I will be very happy to have Cyanogenmod on it and then have possibility to swap storages, but we need someone who can do it (porting to this device, I guess)

Maybe in few months someone will fix it, either from cat or some code expert(maybe you know somebody).

There is one good message I have for you, I use Sygic navigation and under Root explorer (maybe it is not necessarily), I have moved Sygic folder to Sdcard1 (Sdcard0 is emulated internal storage, Sdcard1 is real SD), and it is working without any issues. The truth is that in this folder are not all app data, and that is propably the reason why it is working, but there are maps, and when you want to download more maps, they will download directly to this folder on Sdcard1. I am very happy about it, cause I was afraid that it is not possible too. I can use navigation without issues with more than 4GB of maps on Sdcard1.

(Sorry for my english)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] shad0wrun:
rom and coca cola

thanks ! at least pictures and movies can be stored on sd card root or not (when you put default storage disk to sd1 external in the settings. for the rest i will write as well to support. they will need to modify their rom. cheers.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Brcinskij:
Thanks also, I really like this phone for its design, cause it is not so bulky as other resistant phones on the market. What bothers me, that Kyocera has now new model Brigadier, with sapphire glass, 16GB internal storage and more, but I dont like the design... It would be really nice if this cat has these specs... :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
a big thank you for the huge effort!

has someone who speaks french tried it? it looks very promising, can anyone translate some/most/all of it? i dont want to fool around much when it comes to rooting.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sabinus:
I didn't do it but I could translate it.. it's not very hard,

I think even Google Translate would handle it sufficiently well.

If I have some time (about 1 hour) I will do it.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] shad0wrun:
Hmm. mon B15Q est rooté. j'ai rendu possible l'écriture sur carte sd sous kitkat mais aucune application sur le store ne me permet de transférer les applications sur la carte SD1 externe. Qu'elle app as tu utilisé ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
I use "AppmgrIII" old name "app 2sd"
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] broomer68:
>

I am not yet able to select apps and move them to SD.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
You move jusst app Googlestore

Ex:Navigon,Angry bord

Before root:

Navigon and Angry bird On intern memory

After root. I cann move navigon and angry bird to sd card
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Brcinskij:
Answer from CAT support

Hi all,

I have just received a message from CAT tech support, about my question of modifying their ROM, or give other support like possibility to install cyanogenmod rom for all of us, unhappy owners and users...

Actually they wrote me four times, in second message they wrote that we can move some apps to sd, but what is very funny, without root... So I wrote them, that this possibility (button in settings) is no longer in Kitkat. Like they dont know that... wtf?

So I continued with a more detailed explanation about this problem and I waited for an answer. And it came, that they want to help and they wanted from me serial number, IMEI(s), ... So I waited for their next answer, and this is the last message from them:

Thank you for contacting Cat Phone Support.

In response to your query, we have received an update about your issue.

We do regret to advise that at this moment in time we do not support the modification (called Rooting Android) by third parties of our devices. There are no plans to upgrade or modify the B15Q handset, however we would recommend you check our website for further information. Sorry for the inconvenience.

If you have any further questions then please contact our support team.

Yours sincerely,

Virginia

Cat Phone Support

No comment.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
Engineer mode

Dialer

*#*#3646633#*#*
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
Did anybody try towelroot with the modstrings?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
So I tried the 8 different method and align parameters:

1337 0 1 0 4 0
1337 1 1 0 4 0
1337 2 1 0 4 0
1337 3 1 0 4 0
1337 0 0 0 4 0
1337 1 0 0 4 0
1337 2 0 0 4 0
1337 3 0 0 4 0

When align (second Parameter) is 1 the phone reboots after tapping the Button, but never with root after, which is said in the app:

With align=0 nothing happens.

EDIT 2014-09-26

...and I tried the parameters "limit_offset" a bit and all "hit_iov":

1337 0 1 7380 4 0
1337 0 1 7384 4 0
1337 0 1 0 0 0
1337 0 1 0 1 0
1337 0 1 0 2 0
1337 0 1 0 3 0
1337 0 1 0 5 0
1337 0 1 0 6 0
1337 0 1 0 7 0
1337 0 1 0 8 0

often it reboots, which means it won't work (this written under the apps button)

EDIT2: 2014-09-27

Played a bit more:

1337 0 0 7380 8 0
1337 1 0 7380 8 0
1337 2 0 7380 8 0
1337 3 0 7380 8 0
1337 0 1 7380 8 0
1337 1 1 7380 8 0
1337 2 1 7380 8 0
1337 3 1 7380 8 0
1337 0 1 3688 4 0

Problem is, that each try either I have to restart the app, because won't react on a change in pattern (just ignores it), either the phone reboots which takes a bit time.

So this is useless and timeswallowing poking in the cloudiness, I stop this now :(
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Brcinskij:
emulated storage

Hi all,

I dont really understand it, can someone explain it please? It looks like there isnt real problem in kitkat 4.4.2, cause my friend bought some Acer for just 80 Euro and he can move apps to SD on his 4.4.2 phone, so it looks like manufacturers(CAT) fault of choosing this modification in this phone.

I had these phones side by side, my B15Q and his Acer, the difference is when I open total commander, his emulated internal storage is listed as /storage/sdcard0, and real SD is listed as /storage/sdcard1 (maybe sdcard1 and sdcard2, doesnt matter), in CAT it is listed as /storage/emulated/0 and real SD /storage/sdcard1. I think this could be the answer, maybe you know about it, but I am not sure.. some different kind of emulation architecture or something, that this kind of our emulated internal storage is primary external storage and it is causing all this ****. It is totally insane that 2 phones with the same 4.4.2 android dont have the same possibilities. Fck that ****..

Still no solution to install apps to real SD, but there is for today only one solution for gamers with using Foldermount app, but we can move only games that we can download and install to internal storage first, so if we want to play most wanted for example, we cant, cause after factory reset there is only 1.6GB free and the app has 1,9GB...

Please, if someone know something new, write it.. or if I am not right about it.. Cause I am not really sure about all these things...

Thanks..

Sorry for my english. :/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
http://andmem.blogspot.fr/2014/06/towelroot.html

New version of towelroot ?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] buckey23:
Still having trouble :(

I tried the chinese thing and I got the crying android face, I also tried the french method, but on step number 7 where you connect the phone to the computer with the battery out and holding the volume + button, nothing happens. My computer just keeps making the sound that says a new usb device has just connected and then the sound that it failed or disconnected. no files get moved or written.

$50 dollar bitcoin bounty from me to the person who posts a guide on this thread which works for me.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dr587:
Hi everyone!

After trying the method of taz22 with no luck (at step 7 I didn't get the green circle), I tried to root my B15Q with KingoApp (works with Windows). It took some time to the programm to root it, but it works properly since last week :)

During the rooting process, it seemed like it rooted my device like if it was a "HTC B15Q" lol

I could uninstall the whole Ggle bloatware and use root-permissions for apps like rom toolbox, etc... :)

Hope it can help :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
im willing to contribute to the bounty, there really is some need for a noob-friendly root guide.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
Just still same version 3, not working with the B15Q, think I .
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] buckey23:
Well, I tried this one and yep it worked. I can uninstall apps and with another app called folder mount i can use my sd card for most app data. BUT now it seems as though my data connection is broken. I have no idea if it is from this method or the culmination of all the crap I have done to my phone at this point. facebook and reddit can't find their servers when wifi isn't available. I can still get text messages though, and make phone calls. So I guess technically my phone is rooted and your the winner of my bounty post. send me a message with your bitcoin address.

I give up, I regret buying this b15q, $400 down the drain. I have so much hate in me now... at google for stupid updates, at CAT for numerous things,
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] :
this cant be it ! oh come on. you're destroying my optimism :laugh: give it a bit more time !
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] dr587:
My data connection is still working. Maybe you uninstalled something wrong. Did you do backup of your uninstalled apps?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] kolk:
I noticed that LED flashlight intensity is very low on cat b15q. Someone has idea how to add more intensity to LED??

Thanks...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] buckey23:
I thought I did, I copied all the files from the internal storage and the sd to files on my computer before I started but I didn't do an official Backup process. I tried using the files I had copied to bring back my calendar app data I lost but it didn't work. I really know nothing about how phones actually work, maybe the file I needed was hidden or something. Tried putting them all back and restarting, didn't work either.

new symptoms discovered too, the gps doesn't work, and it doesn't go into screen off mode quickly either. I have to stare at it for at least 5 seconds before I can press the power button and turn off the screen.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
try this

You can test GPS, BLUETOOTH , WIFI .....

Engineer mode

Dialer

*#*#3646633#*#*
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] buckey23:
its fixed and rooted!

i found the problem! i needed to reset my apn info. I contacted cat and they told me to do these things

1. From the Home screen tap the Applications menu item.

2. Drag screen to the right and tap the Settings menu item.

3. Tap More....

4. Tap Mobile networks.

5. Tap Access Point Names.

6. Press the Menu button.

7. Tap New APN.

Name: Your Operator

APN: YourOperator.com

Username: Your Operator

Password: password

MMSC: cant post link

MMS Proxy: 000.000.000.000

MMS Port: 8080

8. Once all details are entered, press the Menu button.

9. Tap Save.

Once the settings have been authenticated by the network, a successful data connection will be made.

well it worked and now i have a rooted b15q and i couldnt be happier!

thanks to everyone who found and posted new root methods!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
But still no towelroot with any modstring anybody?

EDIT: towelroot not working for this phone.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] sivy100:
Could somebody please, put step by step tutorial how to root this cat phone. I need to move everything to sd card, cause now I can't even install navigation app due to lack of memory...
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] derflamme:
with the kingoroot app im wondering for those who got it to work

did you experience and issues with it installing the root at first?

what usb drivers did you use?

what operating system of windows did you use?

what version of kingoroot did you use?

did you install the root on a fresh b15q or were there already other apps etc installed?

im attempting this using kingoroot 1.2.4 and 1.2.5 on windows 8 using 3 different usb drivers

each time it fails due to a waitingfordevicetimeout error..

what i notice is that after the device reboots during the rooting process, once it hits the home screen it takes maybe 25-30 seconds for the computer to recognize the phone is connected on the usb..

the timeout occurs error about 15-20 seconds after it hits the homescreen

i guess if the timeout would happen after 30 seconds.. it wouldnt happen in my case..

is there a way to change that setting in the kingoapp?

or is there a way to speedup the b15q restart?

could it be usb driver related? or is the slow startup possible due to loaded apps?

i also have a battery saving app installed.. could that be slowing the recogniztion of the connection?

would like to collect some info before i start deleteing apps of even restoring to factory defaults to try this.

would like to get this rooted so i can used these usb-microusb sticks in the phone

very handy little things, dont need to turn off the phone, remove the battery, switch the micro sd card, just to get access to another drive.

thanks for any and all info.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
Usb DEBUG

http://visualgdb.com/tutorials/android/usbdebug/
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] derflamme:
usb debugging is on for sure

went through that link and did all the steps listed on there, same result..

during the rooting process with kingoapp i see 3 screens

fasboot on

usb tethering

usb transferring

partition recovery not support flash

fastboot on

still wondering how you guys managed this,

btw with usb connection type, i only had th options as mediadevice and kamera, so i tried both with same results..
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigal1337:
Any one got backup from stock rom? need it asap ...

Only backed up the whole rom and can´t split it into files to send them back to device :(

MTK Droid Root & Tools only halt with the message "The signature isn´t found!" when i try to split the ROM_ into files. (and make bootloader)

Rooted my b15q with kingo root, formatted a sdcard with two filesystems and linked the apps to sd with Link2Sd, and everything went fine for weeks.

Until ... i got an android update and tried to update and after that my phone become very much dead. Not even recovery mode worked.

I have now a modded bootloader that works but no (stock) rom to flash :\
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
DON'T update !! update = lost root :crying::crying:

if you want

download and install

http://click.xda-developers.com/api...ttp://catphones.com/media/43243/googleota.apk

after shutdown go to:

parameter - about phone - UPDATE phone

new firmware: B15q gene ds 1..019....

after update i LOST MY ROOT
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
Possible to get root again after this update?

Was this update ment to disable getting root too, maybe?

Kernel version after update:

3.4.67

rdadmin@vBuild1LT80 #1

Thu Sep 25 17:09:30 CST 2014

Build number: CatB15Q_GENE_DS_1.019.000
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
Sorry you lost your ROOT like me

my technique no longer works
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
Oh darned!

No, I never rooted this phone yet. Its my friends phone and she doesnt want to root yet, when she still has guarantee on it, only later, in 2 years.

If it had been possible with towelroot, it were ok, but not if maybe not unrootable after.

So I only notice with a little anger, that catphone stopped with this update with "various bugfixes" the only possibility to root this phone. I hope there will be a way in future.

Root would have been only neccessary because of this Android kitkat-sdcard-bug, which is on this B15Q even more horrible.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] bigal1337:
Got my phone to work again after some struggle. (Had to make new ROM with FW update package included etc.)

So now i have got the new FW (1.1019.000) and got it even rooted with Kingo ROOT :good: :)
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Doggy77:
Root regained after Update (also before update)

Hi!

I achieved root on my B15Q with the original firmware. After updating to "CatB15Q_GENE_DS_1.019.000" the root access was gone. But my last method was working also with this method.

I used:

- A stock CAT B15Q (original stock firmware or 1.019.000 version)

- The "Root Genius General Mobile 1.0.23" APK (attached here)

Steps:

1. Transfer the APK to the phone and install it. If needed enable the option to install from "Unknown Sources". If Google APK checker warns "may cause root" (don't remember the exact wording) just ignore it.

2. Start the app.

3. My chinese is a bit "rusty". But in the first screen use the LEFT button. This seems to be the question if you want to update and the answer is "NO". With later versions of root genius it did not work.

(See attached first screenshot)

4. On the second screen use the right button. This seems to be some sort of "are you sure"

(See attached second screenshot)

5. On the main screen click on the green "Root":

(See attached third screenshot)

6. Now wait till it runs to 100%. Be patient, this needed nearly 5 minutes.

(See attached fourth screenshot)

7. It now shows a "crying" robot. THIS DOES NOT MATTER! Just reboot your phone et voilà.

Root checker says root, Link2SD and SDFIX and ES Explorer all are working fine in root mode.

I did not install another boot loader, I did not install anything other in order to achieve this.

Hope this helps and you can root your phone too using this manual.

CU!

Doggy77
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FinNoose:
Thank you, this work for me!
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] mrozkinson:
Hello, that's true root it's works!! But still can't move apps to sd card! Someone fix this problem?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
Can you install SU (SuperUser/SuperSU)? Or how is it possible to restrict root to any app?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Doggy77:
If I remember correctly, this tool installs is "Kinguser" as SU management.

It is installed in my B15Q and manages the SU requests. I Do not remember to have it installed manually, so it has to be installed with the root.

CU!

Doggy77

---------- Post added at 07:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 07:26 AM ----------

This seems to be a problem of Android 4.4.

The only possibility I found is, to use "Link2SD". Witzh thios you not oinly can link data to a second (ext2-)partition on SD, but also you can move apps to the "normal" SD partition.

I found no other possibility. But finally with root and SDFIX it is possible to use the SD card for OSMAND+ with B15Q! This was MY main reason for rooting.

CU!

Doggy77
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] FinNoose:
Is there any roms out yet??
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] octagonDuck:
I didn't get it to work. I followed the guide on last page (#76 by Doggy77). First the phone asked me if I would alow Google to check my phone for securiy isues, wich I denied. Then I got to the first screen an clicked on the left button. Then the folder where i put the .apk files opens, no second screen. So, I can't get past the first screen. Could it be that my firmware is too old? B15Q_GENE_DS1.010.000. How do I uppdate, I'm totally new att Android.

P.S. Another strange thing with my phone is that it has only 2 GB of ROM Flash instead of 4 GB. Dont know why, the phone was given to me by my work and theya are really cheap bastards... Is it the firmware or some old version? D.S.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] taz22:
if you want udpdate you download and install

http://click.xda-developers.com/api/...Fgoogleota.apk

Restart your phone, wifi on, go to:

parameter - about phone - UPDATE phone
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] Doggy77:
This is correct. If you do it Google warns you about potential security issues because this APK may gain root access ("Really? You don't say?").

I am not aware there are 2GB versions of this phone. Maybe you are misled due to the fact, that the "total phone memory" shows 1.9GB (See screenshot form german UI). This is the space availabe for you. It has 4GB built in but only 1.9GB is usable. The rest is reserved for OS and other things. This "problem" is normal to any android devices and not limited to CAT phones. In nearly every review of android phones the "memory" and the "memory usable" is mentioned.

CU!

Doggy77
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] poultry:
After all previous root attempts being unsuccessful I have finally turned to Root Genius as a last resort.

While it didn't work for me (phone rebooted couple of times, root unsuccessful), that isn't that much of a problem - I trust someone with workable workaround will post a solution sooner or later.

The second thing however, I wasn't so happy about. Apparently the app can make unauthorized calls which simply isn't acceptable. As I have a new phone and root attempts were the only thing I tried on it so far, I simply restored it to factory settings.

Does anyone has a solution that hasn't yet been mentioned here in this topic?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] octagonDuck:
I managed

I managed to root the phone. I used the chineese app, but instead of pressing the left button, i used the right, then the right again. The app tried to root without sucess. but after that I was asked if I wanted to uppdate, I did uppdate the app and now its working. The new version of the chineese app has only one button.
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] poultry:
octagonDuck, thanks for the reply. Like I said, I'm not too comfortable with this Chinese thingy because quick search yields these results:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2489822

http://forums.androidcentral.com/android-security-talk/415376-possible-malware.html

While majority of other search results are positive and app appears to be working, I still prefer to be cautious about it, especially after reading the upper xda link.

Are there any possible alternatives?
[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] francwalter:
Oh, this is really not that rooting I would like.

Looks like a chinese Botnet.

"Trust, look whom"