[Upgrading, Modifying and Unlocking] makebillions:
can we update manually the Radio Rom and Radio file system

Nice that you have much more experience than me. Just few questions:

1 - How can we update manually the Radio Rom and Radio file system?

** best I can tell if normaly with the offical Rom upgrade utility, just remove the CeOS and Extrom lines from the .ini file... However that is not working for me. If we knew where the radioOS and RadioFS files where to be placed in rom, we could use mtty to manualy erase the rom address areas and then upload the radio stack to that location and then finalize it by writing it to rom, probably would need to hard boot afterwards.

2 - Do you know the syntax and program to do that?

this is very rough and off the top of my head, dont attempt this.. just an basic example (taken from another thread, which I tried and didnt work for me)

open mtty

USB> password 0000000000000000

USB> set 1e 1

USB> password 0000000000000000

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> erase a0040000 c80000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB>password 0000000000000000

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> erase a0cc0000 c80000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB>password 0000000000000000

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> erase a1940000 640000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB> set 1e 0

USB>

USB>lnb c:\ipaq651x\RadioOS.nb0

Dont have an example of the output at moment.. but you need to edit the file and remove part of the begining before you are able to upload it with the lnb command. ( used a program do that for me, HX4700_BootLoader) I just used it to exit the files, it does auto try and upload them, but I dont think it places it in the correct place in rom.

USB> password 0000000000000000

USB> set 1e 1

USB> password 0000000000000000

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> wdata a0040000 c80000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB>password 0000000000000000

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> wdata a0cc0000 c80000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB>password 0000000000000000

HTCSPass1.CMˆËHTCEUSB> wdata a1940000 640000

HTCST ÚÈÒHTCEUSB> set 1e 0

USB>

Then would have to repeat for the RadioFS...

I know the address above are not correct, and my method is a bit of a guess from what I've seen from how quite a few of the other phones radio upgrade.

I have not seen how to Radio Stack Flash via SD... best I can tell we need a specail SD chip from HTC that has "special" encoding to flash the GSM Radio Rom to the phone.

3 - Is in Windos, DOS or Linux plataform?

windows for most of what I've attempted.. Well alot in the CMD prompt in windows.

Also Active sync 3.8 seems to be alot better with the 6515 then the newer version.

I know you need to have a full battery and be pluggedinto the power, also need a direct connection into the usb.. NO USB HUB in the middle..

I seen a few people who pulled the battery out for a bit.. then placed it back in.. when it got to the aline screen, they placed it into bootloader mode.. (Power-joystickDown-&-Reset) at same time.. just press the reset while holding the other too.. till the logo is in the middle and Serial is on top and .21 on bottem.. .. place it in the charger and run an offical rom upgrade.

Didnt work for me (tried like 150 times) but seems like it should.

4 - Have you tried to execute the process of decrypt the Radio Rom files and tried to map the memory?

you can use mtty to get a memory map.. didnt seem as usefull as it sounds.

I think I´ve ready some thing about this patch in mobility today (http://mobilitytoday.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12702). I´m about to start to analize (hexeditor) my entire rom trying to find what are the address that we should use in this case, of updating manually.

let me know if you figure anything out. I know there are people here who probably have a copy of the HTC Beetles GSM BT HP Radio Patch Beta that was circulating earlier this year, I would love a copy. I wish someone would just write us a patch, cause there are lots of 651x(5,0{a-?}) phone that the cellular part is missing.

Meanwhile I need to go rebuild my laptop.. I downloaded an stupid evil (HTC Atom Unlocker.exe) from the xda ftp site and it trashed the other computer I was working on. didnt get my data, just I'm at game over on that computer.. need to format and start reloading my o/s. almost want to donate my ipaq 6500 to the person who wrote the program that messed up my windows install.. then I know they would be busy for quite a while trying to get the gsm working, and have less time to try and creatively distroy stuff that is not broken.

Hope I helped sorry took a day or so..

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