yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Also, if you re-lock and update to 4.4.4 or higher, you won't be able to unlock anymore because sunshine wouldn't work and you don't have the unlock code.

Unless unlocking after re-locking doesn't need the unlock code, but afaik, it does.
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
Yea

$50 root on 444 or new troll spam?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55749537&postcount=39
[Moto X General] 250 or Point 65:
Notice my date and post count, "Read" is nearly all I do. The responses to my post confirm that the information I requested is sparse and scattered and conflicting.

I obviously know that I am voiding my warrantee, I am just lost with what this means for me after unlock. This is important....do unlocked non-DE verizon phones (either through Sunshine or middleman) use the same roms, apps, etc as the unlocked DE Verizon phone?
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
Smart_root? Well this is the first I've ever heard of it. Surprised I've never seen it mentioned before.
[Moto X General] samwathegreat:
There is *NO* special rom for the Dev editions. The Verizon Dev edition uses the *same* rom as the regular VZW variant. The GSM Dev edition uses the same ROM as the T-Mobile (retail) variant.

Once unlocked, your device will be just like any other BL-unlocked device. There is no "special method" for those who used sunshine. Follow the same guides for the Dev editions.
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
Scattered perhaps, but hardly sparse. Many people seem to ask the same questions over and over and don't read quite as much as you do (which, you still need to do a little digging). Conflicting happens when those without sufficient knowledge try to answer those repeat questions, when the more knowledgeable ones tire of responding to, generally, the same thing once again. You ARE getting it, but it admittedly takes some time to wrap your brain around it! The time you take to fully understand it, will save you beaucoup time later on when flashing ROMS.
[Moto X General] Topsnake:
The guy that used smart root already had an unlocked BL but didn't know how to root.

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Scattered yes, but not scarce at all. The replies to your post simply indicate that some are still willing to aid those that fail to use the search function. Each of your questions has been answered before.

Why you can't find what others like [MENTION=2509024]samwathegreat[/MENTION] can is beyond me.
[Moto X General] _litz:
Remember (regarding "smart-root") ...

Unlocking the bootloader != root.

Sunshine does not root. The chinese middleman does not root. Moto's unlock code does not root.

There is NO MAGIC TOOL that unlocks AND ROOTS your phone

In each and every case, you have to unlock and root as separate steps.
[Moto X General] ks73417:
Thanks for the idea, I'm on there! Hopefully, swappa works for me, have never sold anything, always buying!

Installed TWRP and FXZ to 4.4.4, this Motomaker Dev Edition ;) is a thing of beauty now. Can't thank [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] enough.
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
Back to topic again...

Anything new about unlocking bootloader on 4.4.4?
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
Let's see...it's out, works for damn near the entire Droid Ultra line, and Jcase is highly likely working on perfecting it. Resulting in a whole slew of the same questions of locked bootloaders, unlocked bootloaders, root, rooting, and alternate recoveries, not to mention of what ROM to install! About cover it?
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
Thanks for it but as you can see, the problem here is that this thread people is speaking about everything and in very few cases about the app the unlocks the boot.

Is there a new version for sunshine?
[Moto X General] :
Someone said they were making a dedicated sunshine tutorial thread....but haven't seen it yet. Soon hopefully.

I would, but I've not used it on a Moto. ?
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
A tuto for using sunshine? This is one of the most easy to use app I have ever used. Hehe well, maybe there is a new version for sunshine with new options (I hope so) just in case. I'd like to unlock my boot.
[Moto X General] :
Just telling you what I was told. ?

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Plus this thread is 1000 posts, mostly off topic as far as sunshine goes. ?
[Moto X General] 97vulcan:
Hello All,

I downloaded and ran Sunshine on my rooted AT&T Moto X running 4.4.2, and it stated it will work on my device. I tried searching this post for the answers, but I was unable to find them. Before I pay to unlock my BL, my question(s) are:

Will I retain root after I unlock BL using Sunshine?

Will my data be intact after BL unlock?

I originally rooted my Moto X under 4.4.0, then I updated to 4.4.2 using the steps on the forum. Will this cause any issues before, or after unlocking my bootloader?

Thanks in advance!
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
Data untouched in Sunshine. Unlocked bootloader affords root automatically.
[Moto X General] 97vulcan:
[MENTION=3640868]Einsteindks[/MENTION]

So just run Sunshine, and enjoy the benefits of an unlocked B.L? while still having root under 4.4.2 (for now) and my data intact?

Thanks for clearing that up for me!

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Paid via Paypal...to jcase at cunninglogic dot com. Waiting for code to use Sunshine. Woot! :laugh:
[Moto X General] DaRkRhiNe:
It doesn't provide the code !!! It unlocks the BL on its own
[Moto X General] _litz:
Err .... have you READ any of the previous pages ?

Sunshine

does not provide root

. Period.

If you had it before, you have it after.

If you didn't have it before, you WILL NOT HAVE IT AFTER.

please do not confuse the masses on this issue

What being unlocked gives you is the opportunity to easily root if you choose to do so.

Nothing more, nothing less.
[Moto X General] 97vulcan:
I know it doesn't provide code. I paid outside of the sunshine app.
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
Never said Sunshine roots, I said the unlocked bootloader affords (the opportunity/chance/option to) root. Granted, I did neglect to mention that it requires an alternate recovery to be installed, but, presumably, that is the reason for unlocking the bootloader in the first place. Otherwise, it's a waste of time and money. I am present the last few pages, but you only once, AND the first to clearly misunderstand a post of mine, AND the first to neadlessly criticize me. I'll crawl back into my hole now and stop helping those whom others ignore so's to avoid offending you further.
[Moto X General] 97vulcan:
wanted to give a shout out. Running 4.4.2 rooted, and now BL unlocked! Thanks [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and others who made this possible.

Looking forward to flashing ROMs.
[Moto X General] catawalks:
Big thanks for posting this up. Unlocked Verizon Moto X and couldn't be happier. Well I guess a Moto X 2014 Verizon unlocked would make me a little happier, but this one is good too. :)
[Moto X General] Wansanta:
I wouldn't let some anonymous JA on the internet intimidate me into not posting. Put him/her on ignore.

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What version was your bootloader on when you used Sunshine?
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
Bootloader was on the one that came stock with 4.4.4, via official OTA updates.
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
So, were you able to unlock your boot with 4.4.4?
[Moto X General] thesimulacre:
so... what's the deal with sushine's permissions? ALL of them and some I've never heard of? Just curious as I don't see it mentioned on the site nor did searching it provide any clues.
[Moto X General] Wansanta:
It's unlocking your bootloader - they pretty much need every permission possible. If you aren't comfortable with that, sell your phone and buy a Dev Ed.
[Moto X General] thesimulacre:
Like I said, just curious
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
Yep, it's an Android thing, the way the software is set up to run. Partially as a result of being an open-source code operating system.

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I cannot answer your question, from the way you have set it up. I WILL say that I was on 442, with write protection off and root courtesy of SlapMyMoto, activated survival mode in supersu, took the OTA as part of the soak group, and had 444 with root, but lost write protection off. I made sure everything was in stock formation, then took the sunshine exploit. Sunshine wanted to run in dalvik, so I reverted back from art.
[Moto X General] Wansanta:
If I hadn't already bought an unlock code from china I would use sunshine. The devs who developed it are well known and trusted in this community.
[Moto X General] eleazar6:
I have a tmo xt1053 and contemplating doing this, but i just got my phone back from warranty repair and it has 4.2.2. Maybe just root that? I want to keep the last two months of the factory warranty if i can.

Anyone do a successful warranty exchange with a bootloader that was unlocked NOT using moto website?

Off topic:

had no idea you could do that! Nice being able to filter out the ones like mr litz :)
[Moto X General] BriCo84:
Sounds like a good plan. Keep rooted on 4.2.2 until your warranty is up and then just use sunshine

Wish I had this^ option :/
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
No need for sunshine, he can unlock for free on the moto website...
[Moto X General] samwathegreat:
As stated above...

If you have an xt1053, the ONLY reason to use sunshine is if you want to waste $25....

Why use sunshine when you can unlock free through moto regardless of android version?

I don't get it..
[Moto X General] Wansanta:
Maybe b/c of the warranty? If someone unlocks through Motorola, they will be in their database as having their warranty voided. I realize that the bootloader mode says unlocked if you use sunshine, but it is possible that motorola wouldn't notice.
[Moto X General] k_t_b:
No. http://motorola-blog.blogspot.com/2013/11/you-asked-we-listened-announcing.html
[Moto X General] :
That's the dev edition only. Regular carrier brands that unlock on the Moto site forfeit their warranty.

And as far as Sunshine allowing you to possibly keep the warranty.....checking the bootloader status is probably the first thing they do. At best you can go from unlocked to relocked, so you're still in trouble.
[Moto X General] Wansanta:
I am pretty sure I have read reports of people who unlocked with the chinese code getting warranty replacements. Can't remember where I read it though. They weren't bricks, but rather bad charging ports, cracked screens, etc.
[Moto X General] :
There's always grey areas.....I'm just repeating their official stance. ?

But its always gonna be a gamble.
[Moto X General] Wansanta:
Right, I am just thinking it may be worth gambling $25 to not have your IMEI in motorola's database as having a voided warranty. For me anyhow, it is not a lot of cash.
[Moto X General] :
I don't disagree, if people have the cash.

Worked on my M8. Had to send it in. It was unlocked and s-off with Sunshine. The difference tho, I was able to revert the phone totally stock. They'd have no way to know I ever did anything with it. Well worth the 25. [emoji4]
[Moto X General] k_t_b:
Ah. Thanks for the correction. I'm not sure why I was under the impression that it was a XT1053 Dev. Edition. My mistake.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
[MENTION=4343954]BriCo84[/MENTION] said "Keep rooted on 4.2.2 until your warranty is up and then just use sunshine."

There's no point in using Sunshine after ur warranty is up because well, ur warranty would be up so u would have lost it already... ;)
[Moto X General] Wansanta:
I think there is a point in being unlocked in that if you are tinkering with your device, it is MUCH easier to brick a phone with a locked bootloader than one with an unlocked bootloader. I will never buy a phone that can't be unlocked again for that reason.

So IMO, you are still better off paying the $25 to unlock via sunshine b/f your warranty expires even if you have root for the reason stated above. Then you won't be in Motorola's data base as having a voided warranty, which may or may not work for you if you have a warranty issue.

BTW - in most states a blanket voiding of a warranty like that will NOT be effective if the reason for the warranty claim has nothing to do with unlocking your bootloader, i.e., a failed charging port. I am sure Motorola knows that and if not, you can make that point to them if it b/c an issue for you.
[Moto X General] peters4n6:
intrigued to try sunshine. what will accepting the ota for lollipop do, if anything, when it comes out?
[Moto X General] mbkintner:
Once you are unlocked you can take updates without worrying. You may have to root again but you will still be unlocked.

What version of Android are you running now? Sunshine will likely not work for you if you are currently on 4.4.4.
[Moto X General] peters4n6:
yeah currently on 4.4.4 so unlikely, but i may give it a shot.
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
444 people should ALWAYS try, if intersted! The app will know if go/no-go, and will not make ANY changes until the unlock actually happens. No harm! :D
[Moto X General] DarthSudo:
+1

I just unlocked the BL on my XT1058 with Sunshine, then flashed the stock TMO 4.4.3 FW and took the OTA. My BL is still unlocked! (not that I expected otherwise, just confirming that this is a full unlock) :D

Well worth $25...
[Moto X General] ReadyMadeFire:
Last night I unlocked my bootloader with Sunshine. I was still on 4.4.2 and had previously rooted with SlapMyMoto. After unlocking bootloader, I flashed stock recovery and system, took the OTA updates to 4.4.4, flashed the current TWRP recovery and boom. Up to date, unlocked Verizon XT1060. I'm ready for 5.0 Lollipop now. Thanks to all for the hard work. Well worth the $25.

Sent from my BL Unlocked XT1060
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
Excellent! A fresh recruit for drafting into service of answering all the repeat-questions! LOL
[Moto X General] Johnny Wong:
Does Sunshine work on 4.4.4? I kid!
[Moto X General] peters4n6:
As expected, didn't work. Couldn't do the temp root and would not go further :(
[Moto X General] Dr Lexus:
OMG Thanks!!!

Sweet mother of all that is holy, I hardly believe my Republic Wireless (RW) Moto X model XT1049 now has an unlocked bootloader. Wow.

It was especially nice to see it succeed, after having it fail while trying at work. Where I work, at Freescale Semiconductor in Austin, our phones are able to connect to the corporate WiFi network via the app AirWatch Agent, and a certificate. I dont' recall exactly what kind of certificate it is, but I would get the dialog asking me to allow temporary root, then it would go to test compatibility for about five minutes, then just reboot, and nothing else would happen.

Later last evening, after work I decided to try it while driving along the highway, on my RW 3G plan. I wondered if it was risky to try Sunshine while moving about on mobile data, but it worked perfectly.

So, there's possibly something about the way our mobile devices connect to corporate WiFi that affects Sunshine.

Anyway, THANKS!!!

ps. If anyone wants more details regarding the certificate, I'll try to share as much info as possible, without violating corporate privacy.
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
It's possible the wi-fi checks for root capabilities. If that's a company phone that you unlock the bootloader, things could get.... interesting for you.
[Moto X General] pedrohp:
Is this Reversible?
[Moto X General] DarthSudo:
Doubtful. My understanding of the BL unlock is it is a hardware "fuse" that gets "burned". You can relock your BL, but my guess is it will always be flagged as unlockable. I don't want to test it on mine... ;)
[Moto X General] Einsteindks:
In the continuing goings on prior, someone in-the-know said that it can be locked again, but then it can never ever be unlocked ever. It is a permanent lock at that point. Also, Verizon is unlikely to send a code during an update to relock any unlocked bootloader.
[Moto X General] Dr Lexus:
Not a company phone. It's personally owned.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Fail while connected to work wifi?

Well, Its likely the ports or protocols used by Sunshine, or the IP Sunshine calls home to, are blocked by your corporate network rather than the wifi connection itself.
[Moto X General] seafood99:
Sorry but this is the biggest noob question ever, but you can just unlock your bootloader (BL) via the moto website, right? What's so special about this method?
[Moto X General] JooseyJay:
This is for people with phones from carriers that don't allow it via the moto website.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
The ATT, VZW and RW variants are not unlockable via the moto website...
[Moto X General] Johnny Wong:
The Moto website doesn't give out codes at the request of certain carriers, ie Big Red. So you are right, for some it is pretty simple but most are locked out.
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Actually, it's the other way round. It's pretty simple for most, only some are locked out (ATT, VZW and RW)...
[Moto X General] Johnny Wong:
Yup, you're right. Was thinking I was in the Droid Maxx forum when I wrote that statement. Lol
[Moto X General] mpkrcl:
Does it work if safestrap and motowpnomo are installed?

I currently have 4.2.2 BL with safestrap and motowpnomo installed, running stock rooted 4.4.2...

Is there any danger using sunshine with this combination? (being that I don't know the specific modifications that safestrap and motowpnomo make, nor what sunshine does, do we know if they conflict?) Just curious if this combination has been successfully tested by anyone else? (don't want to end up with a brick if I try it...)
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
I haven't seen anyone post yet, so you might just want to back up your data and try it.

Worst case, you'll need to reflash back to stock, because after using Sunshine you won't need safestrap, nor the older rooting processes.

if you do flash back to stock, first confirm that your bootloader is 30.70 (original 4.2.2), 30.71 (4.2.2 OTA with camera update), or 30.B4 (4.4.2) - Sorry I forgot the version for 4.4. Then flash the appropriate SBF for your phone and carrier.
[Moto X General] ks73417:
If I'm able to unlock bootloader and I'm on 4.4 ( bootloader version 30.B2), can I just restore a TWRP backup taken on another phone that's on 4.4.4 to this one?

or, do I need to use RSDLite to bring the new device to 4.4.4 and then restore the backup?

Thanks.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
First, thanks for the Bootloader version!!

Next, if you need to use Sunshine (i.e. you can't get the bootloader unlock code from Moto or the China Middleman), and you are on 4.4, and you want 4.4.4.... Its better to unlock your bootloader, then fully flash the 4.4.4 SBF for your phone (either using RSDLite or mFastboot), Flashing the full SBF will make sure your partition table (GPT.BIN) and bootloader/TZ/etc (motoboot.img) are properly updated and consistent with the ROM you want to use. Then flash TWRP or other custom recovery and root.

Why? because we've seen people brick when their GPT.BIN and MOTOBOOT.IMG are mismatched from the android version on their phone and they take an OTA update. We've also seen issues (like trying to go into Settings -> Security, and it kicks out out) when some have manually flashed all parts but GPT.BIN and MOTOBOOT.IMG
[Moto X General] ks73417:
I am unlocked now, I should be able to just the OTA now, right?
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
If you are otherwise still stock, and have stock recovery. Yup.

(the OTA's have a pre-validation check before they will install. They check parts of the phone, including some files, etc, to make sure they are the right level before the patch installs. If you vary from what it expects, the OTA will fail. If you don't have stock recovery, the OTA will put you in a boot loop)
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
Any news about unlocking 4.4.4?
[Moto X General] kkrieger:
Theroot.ninja: "Verizon users on 4.4.4 you will have to wait for the 3.0 release."
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
Good, I hope we get it.

Im just receiving an update now but Im not installing it until I unlock the boot.

Will it install automaticly if I dont do it manually?
[Moto X General] :
Wait... What version are you on now? You can use Sunshine on versions lower than 4.4.4... Then update to 4.4.4 still unlocked.
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
Im alredy on 4.4.4, that was why I asked about any news on unlocking boot with 4.4.4.

I have received a new uptade some hours ago but I havent installed yet. I think this one have something to do with voLTE or something like that but it could for sure path something.
[Moto X General] :
Ah! ?
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Wait, so you're already on 4.4.4 and you're getting an OTA notification? Maybe it's the L soak test?? How large is the update?
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
No way man! Its not Android L!

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/10/1...ultra-and-mini-brings-preparations-for-volte/
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
Ohhh it's for the Maxx, Ultra and Mini, I thought u were talking about the X!
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
The X could be getting it soon also, maybe.

You know our phones are identical internally!
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
With L around the corner and the X getting it first, I doubt it will get another OTA before L, so I think it will get those fetaures with the L OTA.

Maybe they released it as an OTA before L for the others because they know it might take a while to update them to L...
[Moto X General] josuearisty:
Did you know that some Ultra, Maxx and Mini users got kitkat and then 4.4.4 before Moto X?

I dont know why, but it just happened.

Anyway, I really hope we get 5.0 very soon.
[Moto X General] mawells787:
Best news ever! Thanks for update.
[Moto X General] ks73417:
Does anybody know when version 3.0 is going to be released? I have used Sunshine on two phones, one of them I had to RMA, but, don't regret paying $25 for that:)

Can't wait to try this on my replacement phone that came with 4.4.4.
[Moto X General] Fadelight:
Last time JCase mentioned it, he said early-mid Novemeber if at all. Since the "3.0" thing was added to his site, My guess would be early to mid November.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
But what about -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56383217

from today at 11:03am (eastern) Jcase said..
[Moto X General] samwathegreat:
Sunshine 3.0 is going to support 4.4.4 users ***ON HTC DEVICES***.

No plans at this time for pursuing 4.4.4 unlock on Motorola Devices.....due to "technical reasons".

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56383217&postcount=1445

Your devices on 4.4.4 will be locked down for the foreseeable future.
[Moto X General] ks73417:
Crap! that's disappointing.

I guess I will try calling Motorola and have them send me a Dev edition instead of Moto maker.
[Moto X General] joeynshelby:
Yeah tell me about it. "Technical Reasons" is very vague. I would like to understand the reasons why it is causing problems for Motorola phones on 4.4.4 and not HTC. Both bootloaders are locked. In my opinion "Technical Reasons" probably refers to some type of threat legal or otherwise from Motorola. They seem to have a reputation

for that http://www.xda-developers.com/android/keys-for-motorola-phones-bootloader-finally-hacked/

The website for Sunshine tends to imply version 3.0 will cover both HTC and Motorola users on 4.4.4 at least the way it is written. I think that is causing some confusion.
[Moto X General] :
Cause no one has figured out a temp root for 4.4.4. And sunshine needs temporary root to function. ?