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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Couple things to start here..

Do you have your WiFi " Always Scanning " under WiFi advanced?

Do you use Greenify and if so do you use its Xposed Module/ Experimental Features?

Under your Alarms in BBS you also have COM.LGE.IMS and if you don't use WiFi Calling you can use an app like System Tuner or Auto Run Manager to disable that entirely, first by disabling it's Receivers then by Freezing it all together.

If you're using things like OK Google and some of the other built in LG Apps and the Weather Widget you're going to have WakeLocks for those types of things. I don't use any of them so I just removed them entirely using Titanium Backup. But that's just me.

You could also grab App Ops and set it so that Google Play Services cannot keep your phone awake.

These are just my suggestions, they may or may not work for you , but they would certainly help.

At the very least I'd use Greenify with Xposed, get rid of COM.LGE.IMS and freeze/Uninstall some more bloat since your phone is awake twice the amount of screen on time you're getting. You should be able to pull at least 5 hours screen on time depending on how you use your phone. My phone is now only Awake maybe 30 minutes more than my Screen on Time now after I did these kinds of things.

Edit:

Also you may want to try setting your Governor to OnDemand and set PowerSave_bias = 1

For me that setup runs the best. Conservative Governor should get you even more juice but may be laggy depending on what you're doing.

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[Verizon LG G3] Cyber Warrior:
Thanks for the help.

I do not use Greenify but I am rooted and do use Xposed.. I'll look into that, Ive heard of it but never tried it. The BetterBatteryStats app advised against using any power saving apps.. says it "generates more overhead by trying to access the data connection due to the apps not behaving properly"... but I hear nothing but good things from members so I'll check it out.

I do not use Wifi Callings so that I can freeze.

I figured most of my wakelocks are from Google Now so I'm okay with that.

Google Play Services was one of the issues I wanted to research more.. what exactly is that linked to? Im guessing its more then just the Google Play Store? I have apps set to not auto update. I'm wondering, what affect it will have if I disable it from running while the phone is asleep?

Right now I have all of the carrier bloat frozen and removed some pre-installed apps.. I'm still running the LG stuff for now because its my first LG phone and I wanna get a feel for their UI and features. Other then that I dont have any system stuff frozen. On good days I get anywhere from 3 1/2 to 4 1/2 SOT at 61% auto brightness.

Edit: Oh and yes I have Wifi Always Scanning set.. no good? I read it was better for battery life.. I think.

Also Keep Wifi On when screen is off is set.

Edit: after doing some research on "Google Play Services" and "Always Allow Wifi Scanning" it seems Google Now is my biggest drain.. which I suspected. So its a matter of how bad do I wanna keep using Google Now. Yes I can disable some of its services but it does affect some of the features.. for me its going to be go all the way or none at all.. so for now Im going to keep using it.. But I think for tomorrow I will disable all location services along with the Wifi Always Scanning option and see what battery life is like without all those wakelocks.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Also try rebooting your phone right before you leave your house for the day or at the start of your day.... A reboot helps some of the WakeLocks for a few of us.

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[Verizon LG G3] lexluthor:
Is just freezing com.lge.ims in Titanium not enough? How exactly to do you "disable its receivers"?

Verizon doesn't even offer WiFi calling so why would then include that package? Does com.lge.ims have any other purpose, like VoIP calls using Bria or something like that?
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
For me and THEbigSWEEN simply freezing it didn't completely get rid of it and it still showed up in BBS.

I used Auto Run Manager to disable it receivers. That app is a paid app however. I think there is a free Auto Run Manager in the Store though.

Also you could use System Tuner as well, just you'd have to give me a few to go through it again so I could tell you exactly where in that app it's located.

As far as what else that process does I'm not sure. I'll link you to the thread that explains it more.

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Here's more info on it so you can decide if that's what you want to do

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54447874

How many times an hour is it waking your phone do you know? It was waking mine an insane amount

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[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
OMG, thanks for all of those great apps!

my phone is driving me nuts, all i can use is for about 5 hours, that is no good. I am going to post my BBS data, and let ppl see what the f is wrong with my god damn phone.

T.T
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Probably just various WakeLocks keeping your phone from Deep Sleeping.

Post your BBS stats and we can figure it out pretty quickly!

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[Verizon LG G3] kthung:
Wow thanks for the extensive post. I can attest for Greenify and Lux Auto Brightness. With these two I can easily get two days of light usage on a charge.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Lux is huge! Obviously the screen on this phone can really drain the battery.

Even small adjustments like instead of having your screen at 70% , step it down to like 65% where in reality the screen looks just about the same to your eyes...and keep stepping it down and creating links for your own Lux Profile.

I tweak my Day profile quite a bit and tend to leave my Night profile pretty much at defaults. Whatever works for you though!

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[Verizon LG G3] oo3:
Has anyone tried changing the device's DPI from 640 to 530? If so, has it improved battery life in any way?
[Verizon LG G3] tech_head:
Why would it?

You are only scaling the image on the screen.

You are still lighting up that backlight.

On a side note. Unlike AMOLED screens where using a dark background affect battery life because each pixel emits light; this screen is an LCD so if the backlight is on it makes no difference if the screen is black or white. The same power is used because the back light is on.
[Verizon LG G3] oo3:
The theory would be reproducing a 1080p screen as opposed to a 2k screen so it doesn't push the processor as much. I don't even know if it would work, which is why I'm asking. But I don't think it would work that way huh.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Well that's what my DPI is currently on

Can't say I've noticed any more Battery savings though.

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[Verizon LG G3] viskey:
I could be wrong but IMHO I don't think changing DPI would do anything. Whether its at 700 DPI or 200 DPI. All the pixels on the screen are still on so does it really matter? I'm just guessing...
[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
here comes my BBS data chief, thank you

I put up SeLinux, Kernel, and App Ops last night, battery drain controlled within a reasonable range, reduced from 80 to 70 over 5 to 6 hours. I am really happy with that. So thank you very much. But I got greedier this morning after the improvement was huge from last night work, lol.

Here are my BBSs!

[IMG="others"]http://attachments.gfan.com/forum/201408/01/1346490brobeqqqaskqi2o.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="CPU STATE"]http://attachments.gfan.com/forum/201408/01/13451794xzxczq5zz4np5n.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="partial"]http://attachments.gfan.com/forum/201408/01/1347124i5xt6nczc4oca4i.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="kernel_1"]http://attachments.gfan.com/forum/201408/01/1345497qi30x5unnxfq5ui.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="kernel_2"]http://attachments.gfan.com/forum/201408/01/13463146ccez43wuwbd33p.jpg[/IMG]

Thank you all for helping me, much appreciated!
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Yes that would be my assumption as well.

Well I'm happy you were able to gain some more Battery time by using some suggestions from my post.

I think there is always room for improvement, especially on a stock ROM. Your pictures obviously didn't upload here so I'm not sure what's up with that... Maybe your just not able to upload yet or something.

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[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
oh lord?~~~

oh lord, you couldn't see the pics, hmmm……any suggestions what i can do about that?

do you think it would be a good idea that I email you my screenshots, and you can see how it is, meanwhile i'll try to think of a way……bah~~~
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Well you could email them I don't have a problem with that, you could try again to upload them. Not sure if you're using Tapatalk to what but sometimes that can happen.

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[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
BBS

never used tapatalk, sorry chief, I uploaded them to imgur, let me put them up right now~~~

[IMG="OTHERS"]http://imgur.com/fxypbPJ.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="CPU"]http://imgur.com/rDiSZ2p.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="PARTIAL"]http://imgur.com/HWMN15P.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="KERNEL-1"]http://imgur.com/jkHrrKv.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="KERNEL-2, ALARMS"]http://imgur.com/JthpIml.jpg[/IMG]

well, i can't see them now, China blocked imgur, stupid crap!

let me know if you guys can see them fine, thank you for helping me.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Nope! I'll PM in a minute

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[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
chief, it's fixed, pics loaded up!

I forgot to type .jpg at the end, I felt so horrible,

terribly sorry!
[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
Hey chief, how's your day? Thank you for recommending tapatalk, real sweet app!

And here comes my weird questions! Do you think that I can get rid of Qualcomm and LIA group in the phone?

Secondly, what the hell are those sensors.qcom? There are tons of them from BBS report.

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Glad to see your found Tapatalk!

I haven't gotten rid of anything to do with QCom nor LIA. I've been hesitant to do so because obviously we know QCom is very important when talking about our Android phones, and LIA I just haven't found enough info about yet.

Those Sensor WakeLocks under Kernel in BBS are nothing we can really do about as of right now. We need a custom Kernel I believe to fix that up.

What I can see from your screen shots though is that your phone is Awake 3 more hours than your screen on time. There will obviously be some difference between those two times, however 3 hours seems a bit ridiculous to me.

You should try hibernating everything you can, including Google + and your messaging app. Use the xposed features to hibernate system apps and to keep your notifications. Basically you need to get your apps under control lol

Try rebooting your phone once a day as well as that will help.

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
I've actually removed the Google+ App myself because anything Google can be a huge offender as far as WakeLocks go. I just use the Web for Google + now. Looks like that along with your messaging app are the two bigger ones.

You may want to try the Force Hibernation Shortcut on your home screen if you can't seem to tame those. Just right before you lock your phone back up you can hit that. Just a suggestion. There's many things you can try and usually it's a combination of them all that works best.

Also you could use a Kernel Tweaker that has the Set On Boot option to set your Governor to OnDemand and put the PowerSave_bias = 1.

Could also lower your Max MHZ to something like 1998mhz.

Your phone spent a lot of time at the Max MHZ of 2.4

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[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
Hey chief, thanks for your time. I don't think i need to work much more from what you are saying, and that is quite comforting to me lolz. Regarding to the CPU issue, I believe I screenshotted after I installed the Kernel Tweaks, I'll see what went wrong about that.

I knew that Google+ consumes power a bit, but I can't get on google in china on PC, which is a shame. Most of the VPN are not working any more here. The great firewall is getting way more efficient these days. I'll see what I can do about it.

Thank you again chief, I'll work around with your hits myself now.
[Verizon LG G3] THEbigSWEEN:
I have LG Intelligent Agent frozen. Have for a couple days now. Another one where haven't noticed anything wrong after freezing and battery life did improve as this was another one that was frequently running. I found this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2448848&page=21 and have seen a couple places where they claim LIA is a logging app. I don't know if you would need to defrost to do a Logcat?? There were 2 or 3 other things listed starting with "LIA" that I haven't frozen yet, but those are next on the list that I'm looking into. I'll update with what I find out. Have been busy with yard sale stuff so haven't had a whole lot of time to tinker!
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Thanks for the info. I've disabled the receivers for that one and then froze it and everything seems fine. I'm going to look more into all these....

Let me know how you make out, I'll slowly start to do the same with these ones and report back.

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
** Updated OP **

How to use Auto Run Manager or ROM Toolbox to Disable Recievers then Freeze something to totally stop an app from running and keeping a WakeLock

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[Verizon LG G3] THEbigSWEEN:
I've frozen the other 3 LIA (informant, logger & s4u) and so far so good. I've seen them on a few lists as safe to remove. I haven't been disabling the receivers though so freezing them seems to be enough to keep them from waking the device. One thing I've noticed, which could be from any number of the things I've frozen/disabled, is sometimes not all recent apps will show as active in the recents panel unless I'm in an app or open recents a couple times then they will all show up. Have you noticed similar behaviour? Other than that everything is running smoothly and battery life is pretty darn good!
[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
hey chief, i am trying various cpu governor lately, would you mind giving out your "conservative" setup? is there anything i could tweak with that one? thanks a lot!
[Verizon LG G3] THEbigSWEEN:
I have "row" for my scheduler and running conservative as is and haven't had any lag. YMMV as some people get a little bit of lag.
[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
CFQ

I think i am on conservative with cfq, i am fine it seems, i am gonna stick with it for a while, and see how it turns out.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
I also use ROW when using that Governor. If you don't experience any lag with that setup then that's great. Mine was only a little bit so i went back to OnDemand since my Battery life and performance is just fine with that.

Haven't had that recents issue, although that same kind of thing used to happen on SlimKat.... Not here though. Mine seems to be going good after freezing those, hopefully it stays that way!

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
[MENTION=4529357]THEbigSWEEN[/MENTION]

After freezing LIA Informant I no longer had LED on Notifications. I just defrosted it and everything is normal again. You have that happen on your end?

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[Verizon LG G3] THEbigSWEEN:
I don't use the LED notifications so I wouldn't have noticed that one! I guess at least now we know for sure what that one deals with lol
[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
really? I frosed LIAs too, LEDS flashes as always though. but i couldn't disable all of the wakelocks they have. LIAs are still running in my system, greenify can't hiberate them also……really powerful nasty apps, lol
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Yea exactly... Freezing it doesn't seem to get rid of it lol.

I'm going to disable the Recievers once again then freeze it just to double check that was my issue.

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
OK I've defrosted it and froze it again with all the receivers disabled and my LED still works so that was a false alarm. It no longer shows up under Greenify either so that one is finally killed off

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[Verizon LG G3] xstormli:
I tried some system apps too. Don't mess with "system server"! I got infinite LED flash, no touch vibe, and 2 start up loops.

I'm glad it didn't brick me, lol!

Almost had me,

[emoji33]

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[Verizon LG G3] BrUhNiGGs:
For those using DS battery saver, is it even turning off WiFi and data when screen is off? It just stays on for me
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
It appears to be working for me. I also check using Better Battery Stats and it shows the times for WiFi and Data and they seem to match up.

Are you using anything else that can possibly control those two things? Maybe something is conflicting somewhere.

You could also install the DS Battery Saver xposed Module and see if that works better for you.

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[Verizon LG G3] BrUhNiGGs:
Yeah I had the xposed module enabled but my WiFi and data still don't disable. I just switched to juicedefender and its seems to be doing better
[Verizon LG G3] PWn3R:
I tried some of the kernel settings using the kernel settings app in the OP. My phone doesn't like something from the SS as it would freeze and then reboot. I removed that kernel tweaks app and went back to what I was using before (Trickster, with very few changes) and my phone has been solid for almost 24 hours. It was freezing every 5-10 minutes after the changes from the OP.
[Verizon LG G3] THEbigSWEEN:
I only use Trickster, and for some reason my phone does NOT like ondemand. I was getting the lock up/reboot every 5-10 minutes like you said. With or without the extra governor tweaks. Have been using conservative (as is/no tweaks) for about a week now and battery life is good and no lag. Haven't been so lucky with conservative on other phones but running nicely on the G3.
[Verizon LG G3] PWn3R:
I might give that a shot. I tried ondemand and the phone instantly froze and then froze within 30 seconds of booting (probably as soon as it was set by trickster) when I tried that last week. I am using the default now, but set the multicore power saving to 2 and it's doing ok. The battery is amazing when the screen is off, but there's no way in hell i'm getting 9+ hours of screen on time on this phone stock like i could on the g2. Oh well -- the bootloader cracking wait continues :D
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Yea unfortunately I think things can just get wonky when playing with a sick Kernel, well at least this one lol

I'll probably end up updating the op disclosing that. For example when I was using Trickster and playing with OnDemand I also had the reboots and freezing. I then switched to the Kernel Tweaker I have listed however my changes wouldn't sick, so THEN I hopped back over to SetCPU and everything works just fine.

OnDemand works great, and so does Conservative. Like THEbigSWEEN said too.. Conservative has never worked out too good for me on any phone other than this one either.

So tomorrow I'll update things just to be clear, don't want to steer anyone towards lockups and rebooting without being warned.

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Also.... Are you using SELINUX Mode Changer ... Forgot to ask

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
[MENTION=4529357]THEbigSWEEN[/MENTION]

I forgot one more thing as well, wanted to ask if you've had the Partial WakeLock

Event Log Handoff

pop up at all?

Yesterday it did for me and absolutely would not let the phone sleep. After some searching around it appears it has to do with a CheckIn Services for GSF/GPS.

Took me quite Few reboots and disabling those receivers once more to get rid of it. Very strange since I had already done all that, so not sure what's up there lol

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[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Added Juice Defender to the OP. Thanks for mentioning it.

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[Verizon LG G3] Movm:
Anyone really getting more power with battery saver apps? I think that it's going down even more faster using it...
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Which one are you using?

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[Verizon LG G3] Movm:
Tried These two (pro Version From juice defender!) and one power guard. Don't like one of them.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
I think apps like those can definitely help but I also think it depends on how you set them up and how you use your phone.

Most of those types of apps aren't too resource hungry so they shouldn't have a negative impact, obviously every App we have running in the background will demand some resources though.

Also I think if you're someone who is waking the phone up quite a bit that will negatively effect how these types of apps truly help because your phone will constantly be toggling whatever parameters you have chosen on and off.... If that makes sense.

For example I have my phone set up to turn WiFi on when I'm at home and to turn on Airplane Mode after a certain time at night ( since I don't want any calls then anyways ) and that particular setup works great for me and I definitely have gained more juice.

Now my setup is rather simple but if you really tweaked things based on how you use the phone and think about the Data, WiFi, Sync, and even CPu speeds that you need you should be able to have these apps help you not hurt you... Of course everyone uses their phones differently

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[Verizon LG G3] Movm:
I think that's it. The only thing which is constantly running is data, Wi-Fi and sync. And than I use the g3 integrated battery saver to turn off sync when device gets lower than 50%. So they don't make sense for me.
[Verizon LG G3] forestall:
BatteryGuru

Has anyone tried the Qualcomm BatteryGuru app in comparison to these others listed already in the thread?
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
I have not. If you do end up trying it out let us know what you think [emoji16]
[Verizon LG G3] BrUhNiGGs:
DS Battery saver and JuiceDefender are a no go for me. What I did find was GreenPower and it does basically everything JD and DS do in terms of managing WiFi/data. Its pretty simple and works well with my G3. DS and JD didn't do much of a good job disabling my data/WiFi when screen was off.
[Verizon LG G3] steelersmb:
There is another program called LeanData that does something similar. Haven't tried it yet but looks promising.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.teqtic.leandata
[Verizon LG G3] THEbigSWEEN:
Hmm, I believe I've seen that wakelock before but not where it was misbehaving like that killing the battery. One day I had The Weather Channel app would not stop using GPS even with location turned off so had to uninstall the app and reinstall it but other than that things have been running smoothly.

I used to use Juice Defender but as far as I know they stopped development for it, right? I would always have trouble regaining my data connection after waking the device. I have DS Battery Saver Xposed module active. I ran it one day with it deactivated and the next with it running with pretty similar usage for a typical work day (mainly using it on breaks) and battery was slightly better with it on. Not anything crazy, I believe within 5% range more at the end of work. But like Mistertac said the more you wake your phone the more it will be toggling and/or syncing as opposed to someone like me who can't really mess with my phone while working so it sit's in my pocket for 2 hours in between breaks.
[Verizon LG G3] BrUhNiGGs:
Looks like it has the same features as GreenPower does. May look into that app if GreenPower goes downhill or development stops
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Over the next few days I'm going to try Llama https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kebab.Llama

It's basically a Tasker for dummies lol it can control everything about how your phone behaves based on your location which it gets from cell towers. You can turn data on and off, WiFi, airplane mode, adjust screen brightness and even change your ringtones and notifications. It does much more too. For anyone who wants to put a little time into setting it up it's quite worth it I believe.

I'll update the op when I'm done fiddling around with it.
[Verizon LG G3] steelersmb:
Try AutoMagic, it's the best program out there for automated tasks and much easier than Tasker. It costs a few bucks but is well worth it.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ch.gridvision.ppam.androidautomagic