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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RalphLauren:
I know, man. Should have done it month ago when just got it.

But was a bit hesitating.

Now have to wipe anything and finally unlock, will cost me TIME again to fine tune to my liking .

Have backup indeed, but in the past ran into some problems, so probably will start afresh .....

BTW, talking about bootloader, what we will get after update (just copied it from my previous post):

Suppose such situation:

-Unlock bootloader on 25R

-Reset tamper flag

-Update to 30O

What we will have now?

1. New unlocked bootloader with no flag

or

2. New unlocked bootloader with a flag

or

3. New locked bootloader with no flag(highly unlikely, but ask anyway)
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
I'd say unlocked with a flag. Doesn't really matter though as it has no effect on your warranty.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dray:
They ruined a perfectly simple way of rooting your device and staying as close to stock as possible...smdh :mad:

Sent from my A0001
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
What's wrong with unlocking your bootloader though? You don't actually gain anything at all by having it locked.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andresantos:
how do i unlock the bootloader in the ota 30O? I understood that the unlocking scripts may brick your device so I dont want to try it.. Also how do i make a backup of all my stuff if im not rooted? im used to using titanium backup and dont know any other ways.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Don't use an unlocking script, just make a backup of the important stuff on your phone and use the normal unlocking command.

fastboot oem unlock

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dray:
I really like CM11s and don't mind keeping it stock rooted ( adaway, xposed fw are essentials)...it makes it easy for future updates. I have modded several devices over the past few years (since leaving iOS) with no issues but here recently I bricked my M7 so I am a little gun shy with my OPO...besides CM is awesome. :)

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
What's having CM11S got to do with it though? I'm not sure I understand what you're saying. You can unlock your bootloader and it won't affect your OS at all.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dray:
OTA updates?

Sent from my A0001
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Yeah you'll still get OTA updates. Everything will work as it normally would.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LookedPath:
Hi to all,

I've updated my phone to the latest Ota, even the second one that OnePlus released yesterday.

Now my phone is locked and not rooted.

I would like to root it but without unlocking the boot loader as I don't want to loose my data and I have bad experiences with recovery backups.

My idea was to boot TWRP from fastboot without flashing it and then flash the latest version of SuperSU with the just booted recovery.

Is that possible?

Thanks in advance.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
No it isn't possible anymore, you have to unlock the bootloader.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Jack of Clubs:
Tbh all they did was patch a giant security hole. The bootloader being locked and destroying all data when compromised exists for a reason. The advantage of having this phone is unlocking, rooting, and even flashing a custom ROM doesn't void your warranty.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dekz:
What is the proper method for backing up if I want to unlock my bootloader and not lose anything?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Just connect your phone to your PC and copy anything important from your internal storage across. If you want to back up your sms there are apps on the Play Store.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Jack of Clubs:
you cant back up app data without root. dont update without rooting and backing up first.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
You can backup app data with Helium.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Jack of Clubs:
if you are already rooted, yes. if you updated and are not rooted, then no.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
I've backed up apps on a non-rooted device with Helium before.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dibbyo123:
Having this issue.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
That's because you can no longer boot into a recovery without an unlocked bootloader. You need to unlock it.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] weakenfalls:
root one plus one and keep stock recovery & bootloader

Thanks for your inputs on how to root my oneplus one and keep stock.....to do this I just power off the device, then press power+volume down then select fastboot> recovery and run the root file after I place it in root of the device.... Or do I power off then fastboot> go to the folder on my PC where i have the root recovery. Img file run the cmd adb devices> fastboot> recovery. Img ?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Unless you're on very old firmware, that advice is no longer current and will not work.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grandebestia:
Sorry for the noob post, but isn't possible to sign the SuperSU zip and then flash it with the stock recovery?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] magnum73:
Does this work on 38r ?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
No. Just unlock your bootloader.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Huntsman247:
How come unlocking the bootloader won't void the warranty? I thought OnePlus warranty was voided once you unlocked the bootloader.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Nope. All the information is freely available on the OnePlus site. Unlocking the bootloader, rooting, installing custom ROMs, all do not void the warranty.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Jack of Clubs:
why should they void the warranty? they even offer their own rom which requires a bootloader unlock. its there for the same reason as the nexuses, security. unlike carrier bootloader locks which are there to keep you from using alternative software that could prevent you from paying them extra money.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
The bootloader is locked in order to meet Google certification criteria.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Huntsman247:
Cool as. Just finished unlocking and rooting. Just have to set up the phone how I like it. pffff.... Hate this part.....
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] The Jack of Clubs:
im not sure thats true. i believe there are other manufacturers that do not lock the bootloader and still get certifications.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
There are 'dev edition' phones but they're something completely different.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2x4:
Root after 44S ?

is it still possible to root without unlocking the bootloader after the latest OTA (44s)?

I tried but I keep getting the "Device not unlocked cannot boot" error when I try to fastboot the twrp img
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
No it is not possible. Unlock your bootloader
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
Why is it that you feel you should keep it locked? No potential gain by doing so. Unlock it flash away and enjoy everything that is out there for you.... :D :good:
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2x4:
Shoot, alright.

What Superuser do you recommend?

I was reading some threads about how using the hidden integrated SuperUser meant that you could keep root once OTAs come out, so I am not too sure which to use
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
OTA should mean nothing to you as all software versions will be available for downloading and flashing here within xda. There are even experimental Lollipop roms which as of lately are operating quite nicely. Still some bugs but still worth a peek
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2x4:
I like keeping the stock feel and modifying from there, personally, especially since CM11S already has most of the tweaks I had before with my stock N5.

but yeah I guess I can flash the official OTAs myself, and faster. What superuser app is best?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
Thats subjective. I just like to use SuperSu myself but again thats just me. You can simply try Superuser for a few days then try Supersu to see which one you prefer. they both will give you what you want... root access.

May I suggest you try a few roms in the forum as there are quite a few nice cm11s based roms as well as cm11. You can always go back to stock in the end but I dont see why many do with the great set of choices we have
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2x4:
I have no doubt i will try other roms in the future, esp since with root i will be able to use titanium backup to ease that process, as before i always dreaded losing all my apps and sms and logs and settings. Now though, using google voice + hangouts and having IFTT back up my call log to Gdrive, I don't feel like I'd lose much. The only manual backup i'd do is for nova launcher and tasker
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
Nova backups your setup... Hey I look at it like this I took the plunge into rooting and flashing so if I have to wait 20 minutes to have my apps re-download but I now have the latest and greatest its an easy trade-off... I must of flashed a dozen or so Lollipop roms in the last week and set them all up from scratch.

To me it is what it is.... Rather start clean then have potential bugs follow me. Please remember that when crack flashing. Its ok to dirty flash but dont report any bugs unless you have done a clean install.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 2x4:
I would really just backup certain apps, not my whole setup, since largely i prefer to clean up while im at it and i don't mind logging in to all my accounts again.

but to be honest im not sure what you mean by dirty flash, or crack flashing, i'm a bit new
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] playya:
trying to save the forum so thread space... LOL Ok dirty flashing is what we call it when an update to your rom of choice at the moment comes out and you then what to upgrade it. Some people who do not want to set up everything again will just "dirty flash" which is ok in most situations.

crack flashing is just most of us who flash daily

its just when you dirty flash it sometimes causes minor bugs but not always. if this happens to you I would suggest doing a clean install of whatever rom you are using....

Ok my bad we kinda derailed this thread please pm me if you need any more assistance
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zephiK:
SuperSU for sure. Its far better than the built in superuser by Koush.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Just use TitanIum Backup to backup all your user apps and sms/mms. It's easy, clean, and safe.

SuperSU.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonny68:
Why can't you root without having to use a PC, ive tried numerous computers and no matter how many times i download the usb drivers it simply will not recognise my phone so ive all but given up, how is this possible, i use a Chromebook and when i plug in my OPO it recognises the opo but you can't root,etc using a Chromebook (either that or it's very very difficult for vastly experienced users) so 2 and a half months ive got my opo and still not rooted and battery life is starting to suffer with background apps running, im using battery doctor professional to kill the apps but id sooner root and greenify them, and just to have more control and freedom.

i remember when i had a Samsung and there was an app you could sideload which would give you root, when i first got my HTC M8 the minute i plugged it in the drivers automatically installed, i unlocked, got s-off and rooted in the space of an hour yet i cant do it with this.

not everyone uses a PC, i haven't done so for years and have no desire to do so, i have to go to stinking internet cafes to use one, 6 times ive tried, 6 times ive had no success, tried downloading many different USB drivers, no success, severely disappointed i have to say not so much with the actual phone but the fact that it's not much easier particularly where cyanogen who are supposedly the masters of android hacking and development,why do you need a bloody PC in this day and age of tablets and Chromebooks much more popular, there should be zip files or apps which can take the hassle out of all this nonsense.

at this stage im nearly considering offering someone a tenner or something just to root my phone, something i could easily do myself if only i could get the bloody USB drivers to install.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Maybe not everyone uses a PC, but anyone who is into modifying their device absolutely should use a PC. Adb and fastboot are so essential and integral to modifying your device that owning a PC is a must, or just don't modify your phone.

It's no wonder you can't get drivers to work on a PC at an internet cafe. Don't you know somebody who owns a PC? You need access to a PC that you can have full control over, which you simply won't get at an internet cafe.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonny68:
Not to mention my Nexus 7 (2012) is running Android L, and im still stick on 4.4.4 with this, surely there has to be others who were having trouble with usb drivers, even tried on a friends PC , downloaded the universal USB drivers, rebooted PC, plugged in the OPO and get the same error message, uninstalled again, tried different drivers, tried again no luck, went to device manager, tried updating drivers, said they weren't installed, went through numerous step by step guides here and elsewhere no luck.

I'm far from a noob as you can see ive been on XDA years but this is pathetic at this stage, why does my chromebook recognise my opo when i plug in the usb cable but windows pc's wont, what is amiss here ?

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i disagree , i don't think it should be necessary in this day and age, pc and laptops are now not as popular as tablets and Chromebooks, you should be able to still modify and hack using an android tablet,inded i achieved s-off using terminal emulator on someones elses M7 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_Paa-vqbow and you also have apps like flashify a Chromebook might be different but im sure more experienced users would find a way, i studied IT in college many years ago, ive a lot of knowledge but information technology has evolved rapidly since then.

I also tried on a friends windows xp PC and no luck.

How did i not have this hassle with my HTC M8, or indeed the Samsung S4 before it?

i may also add that i unlocked, rooted , flashed twrp and custom rom ,etc in an internet cafe before, just needed to go the once and after that i could just do anything then using my M8 without the use of a pc.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Disagree all you like, but the PC is the accepted standard for these operations. I don't know why you didn't have hassles with your other devices, and I don't know why you're having trouble with this one. Exactly which drivers have you tried installing?

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonny68:
Universal USB drivers, Samsung drivers and numerous other.

It's like saying that a person has to park their car while they are behind the wheel driving it themselves , when in fact there are some cars you can park remotely from a handheld device, the car will park itself, so my point is just because this may be the "accepted way" ! It shouldn't mean one must actually own a windows pc to hack and modify, especially apps like terminal emulator and flashify to name just 2.

Never mind I'll ask someone if they'll try for me and give them the price of some beers I never wanna see another Internet cafe for a long time
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Using other non-PC methods to root a device are just roundabout ways of doing it the right way. I get it, you'd like to be able to root the phone without a PC, but the hard fact is you can't so this whole conversation is a moot point and going nowhere.

If you want assistance, I can help you, and I don't want money for it. You need access to a PC, and you need to make sure that there are no other drivers for other phones on the PC.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] memphian:
Although doing with just an app is convenient, it is absolutely not a favorable way in terms of security. Imagine apps from the play store or other source using an exploit this way?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] letsnexus:
you need to unlock your device before rooting. hope you understand :p
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MYSTICUSA:
in the 12s update, fastboot boot recovery.img doesnt do anything... google/cynagoen must have fixed stg...
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eljuggy:
I confirm that on CM12S, fastboot boot recovery.img returns :

"Device not unlocked cannot boot"

So is there a way to root without wiping data ? or to save apps data before unlocking (game progress and such) ?

thanks.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
You haven't been able to boot a recovery since about 25R. No you can't root without wiping data. The only apps that will backup your app data require root so that's not possible. This is why it's important to unlock the bootloader when you first get the phone.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iloqin:
Yes, First thing I read was to unlock bootloader, load custom recovery, and you can root and start flashing roms.

Backups then can be made with TWRP and apps/settings with Titanium Backup
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moksu:
Should the Fastboot boot recovery.img still work if i had the bootloader open in cm 11?

Since i can't boot back to the TWRP recovery after doing the "Fastboot recovery recovery.img" command.

Root checker does say i got root access.. but i can't click "Root explorer" on my ES File Explorer File Manager.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Booting the recovery should work as long as your bootloader is unlocked. Why not just flash TWRP though?

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moksu:
Is there some other way to do this than using the "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" command?

Since when i tried that my phone did not wanted to boot to TWRP recovery. It only gave the Cyanogens own recovery.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Did you remember to uncheck the "update cm recovery" option in Developer Options? Have you read the FAQ?

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moksu:
ofc i got it unchecked. Hasn't been checked since cm 11.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
So have you read the FAQ?

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moksu:
Which FaQ are you talking about? Doubt there is any help for my problem anyway..
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
The FAQ that I linked you to the first time I asked you if you've read it. And yes, it does contain the answer you need, I know because I wrote it.

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[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moksu:
Indeed it had. Thanks cutie for help.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramongallud:
Help to a total Android noob

I recently changed to Android with the OnePlus and I would like to root it to get access to all its potencial, like only root apps, exposed frameworks, etc.

I would also like to do the root without deleting all my info (if possible)

Since this thread is from the last year I asume things have changed... so, is there any way to root with out deleting?

I am currently running Cyanogen OS 12.0-YNG1TAS17L / Android 5.0.2

Thanks a lot!
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Nothing has changed, you need to unlock your bootloader, then flash TWRP, then flash SuperSU. Unlocking the bootloader will erase your personal data. Just copy your important stuff to your PC first.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramongallud:
I see... is there any app that does all that? like an all in one app?

Or which is the best method for doing all the steps?

Thanks!
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
An app to copy data to your PC? Just connect your phone, then copy and paste. As for the unlocking and rooting, no there isn't an app, that isn't how it works. Just follow my guide

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2839471
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramongallud:
I ment an app to do all the steps (unlock, etc)

Nice guide! I think I will try it tomorrow

Thanks again :)
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
There's no app for that as it doesn't take place while booted into the OS, you do it via fastboot mode.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ramongallud:
And one last question, my OPO is the one that comes wihtout the Cyanogen logo on the back, if I do this process, will it void my guarantee?

I read somewhere that the OPO phones could be rooted withouth voiding it
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
That's right, you can unlock the bootloader and root the phone and it won't void your warranty.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BadCluster:
Ok, maybe my oneplus is strange because...

- I'm in stock lollipop

- I've never unlock the booloader

- I've never flash a custom recovery

But I've rooted the phone!

I've use the last kingroot.

If you don't trust me I add you some screenshots

I've also installed AdAway!

Now the question is:

Can I install a custom recovery withouth unlock the bootloader?

Because I don't want loose all my data...

Thank you
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davebugyi:
Permanently no. Unlocked bootloader needed for modyfing recovery partition
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
If you have root you can probably use Flashify to flash TWRP to your phone. Then you can use this to unlock your bootloader. You flash it with TWRP, and it won't erase your data.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anantshri:
non rooted bootloader locked oneplus
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
That's because you can't boot recovery with the bootloader locked, why not just unlock it?
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anantshri:
I thought the whole point of First post on thread was around the point to why unlock when you can root without unlocking the bootloader by just booting via recovery. But looks like i was right that whatever be the case a bootloader unlock is required.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Why unlock the bootloader? Because now you have full access to your phone and are able to backup the important data (photos, music, etc) that will be wiped during the unlock. If something goes wrong with your phone, you probably won't have access to it, and will be forced to unlock the bootloader in order to flash the stock images, and you'll lose that data. So rather than unlocking just for root, it's an insurance policy too.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] anantshri:
I am familiar about the advantages of root and i will do what is needed. However i am pointing to the obvious that the title of the post is incorrect "Root without unlocking bootloader".

I already have a bootloader unlocked and rooted device however one of my friend pointed that you could have gotten root vi this method also so we did an experiment in a fresh device and hence posted stuff here.
[ONE Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Heisenberg:
Ok, and I'm simply pointing out the advantage of having an unlocked bootloader. I don't see why that's an issue for you.