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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] welby1:
Screen Alignement

Hi all,

I have tried all the methods here and the only one that worked for me is the dissassemby of the phone method.

My phone is out of warranty so I was able to carry out this method.

It took me about an hour to complete as I was carefully taking my time and putting the removed screws somewhere safe!

I strongly suggest you perform this on a hard flat surface as the screws are virtually impossible to find if you drop one on a carpet.

One thing that I noticed that when taking the first covers off the camera lens was stuck to the case, so I would just carefully remove the case away fromn the camera lens, otherwise you wil need to reassemble the camera lens connector. It's not difficult but it's fiddly and time consuming to put back!

I'm happy wth my fix.

Thank you
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] EtOH:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=How to fix the Screen Aligment issue

Solution 5 is the best
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cbgnl:
there is no 5

?5? i know how to take the screen out but need a solution for the screen fade to white
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
I think ETOH is joking!

The fade to white issue is not necessarily anything to do with the screen. If you have checked all the connectors (firm push into place) and you have hard reset then there may be NO solution possible. We have discovered that when heat builds up in some devices it appears to put pressure in various places. If you read back posts here you will see that there is an indication of a motherboard level fault. One member found that by applying pressure to the processor the screen came back. This indicates a crack in the circuit somewhere in the multi-layer board possibly. If this is true then it is not a repairable fault.

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cbgnl:
i checked it it and its in the front part of the Hermes because when i put the screen into a new hermes it is stil white.

when i took the complete front from the new Hermes and placed it on the faulty one it works again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] dmxl:
I keep having problems with the screen alignment. The device is just terrible.

I even replaced the device with a completely new screen, but to no avail.

With the new screen, the aligntment issue is a little bit less worse. Alot of times I can't close applications with the close button. It just seems unresponsive. The funny thing is, when I either re-align the screen, or click the start button once, I can close the application.

My girlfriend has the same device, and is also having the same problems.

We both have the 3.0 Black WM6 ROM.

Anyone any idea?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hartsink:
I don't know if this is the same problem. I have a HTC TyTN / hermes and everytime I switch between landscape and up right mode (for example, I open and close the slide keyborad) I have to recalibrate the touch screen. Sometimes I don't even have to switch viewing mode. It's ramdomly dis-aligned.

Is this the problem you are talking about?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Both of the above problems are a form of the screen alignment problem. You can try the solutions described on the forum. Non of the methods is guaranteed to work, especially with the more severe cases.

It will make no difference which ROM you are using and the issue will not go away with a hard reset.

With this issue you are advised to seek a replacement device under warranty.

If you have no warranty you can try the more drastic dismantling type "solutions" but again they are not reliable for all. I do NOT advise people to replace the screen as this is not the problem. The problem we believe is due to pressure being put on internal components (on Mother board) and possibly to the extent of causing cracks or poor contacts on the board. This is not a problem that can be fixed by an amateur and indeed professionals will replace the board. Costly if you have no warranty.:(

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] dmxl:
Dear Mike,

Thanks for you reply. If you're saying replacing the screen is not the issue, how can you explain that my allignment problems drastically decreased after replacing my screen?

Could this really not be a software issue? The problems I have now on two TyTN's with exactly the same software are that there are mostly only problems with the scrollbar being slightly out of allignment, and not always being able to close applications.

My girlfriend's TyTN (with Black 3.0 and Wisbar Lite) started to have these problems only recently, after a long time of use without issues.

My allignment issues were more severe, but after replacing the screen, same as her.

I cannot get a replacement for my phone under warranty. It just expired, besides that, support for HTC here in Holland is TERRIBLE. It already has been sent back in the past, they didn't repair the phone and they lost it for over 2 months!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Jak Crow:
I have seen various levels of drift with different WM6 firmware versions. I think the firmware is a very real factor with regards to the drift.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] golfoyrodolfo:
Solution 2

Solution 2 is the best one for my, I did it so that I do not have guarantee.

21 days and go perfect.

To excuse my English
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
I am not saying that it is not the screen. What I am saying is that there are a few different reasons for the alignment and white screen issues. So, getting a new screen, might solve the problem but there is also a good chance it won't. By all means try the solutions given here, but if they do not work you are left with a gamble as to whether a new screen will work or not as in some cases we know there is a connector issue and in others a motherboard problem and all of these appear to be linked to a heating up issue making things worse.

In conclusion - there is NO one solution that works for all.

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Good news - let's hope it continues to work:)

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] randyhow:
Wow!! this method work...

I inherit my bro's Dopod 818 pro few months ago, cos he so fed up wif the SA problem he bought a non PDA phone...Though i too inherit the SA problem (ya.. it's irritating), i dont mind to re-align every few hours as long as it works...

But last 2 day the screen freeze up... i saw some dust on the side of the screen, so i thought that the culprit.. i use a business card to dig them out.. it works for a while then freeze up again.. so i dig some more.. clean up nicely.. but it didnt work any more..thats break my heart..i thought i f@#k it up..so i brought it to a phone shop 4 repair since the warranty had expire... the technician told me it might b the screen protector... so i tell him to change it.. After replacing to a new screen protector he reckon the SA prob.. Without even unscrew the casing, he told me my screen is faulty.. it'll cost me $220.. my jaw drop to the floor.. wif doubt, i pay $30 for the new screen protector n brought it home..

i found this post 2day.. i try 2nd solution immediately..yippie !! it works !!

i use a very thin but rigid plastic card and cut out a piece like "L" shape to clean up the sides.. and thicker plastic card (expire credit card) to stuff on the corner for support...

It's alife !!

thanks sajib... u r a genius...

would report for future progress..

tips:1) the thicker the better 4 corner support..

2) remember to backup.. b4 u start anything

i use spb backup..

http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/download.html?en
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] rorohajj:
It might be normal SA problem, but it also might not be.

Hi all,

sorry for the history, but felt like telling it, the problem details are one paragraph down, so you can just skip to it.

i used to be a proud owner of a imate jam (magician), maybe one year ago. i had no problem at all with this phone (really it's one of the best phones ever, but very very old and un-updated software.) then i got a second hand imate k-Jam (wizard), and maybe one month after i bought it, SA problems started to come up. back then, i didn't know about this site, so my solution was easy: get a bad wizard phone (the phone had the USB connector broken off), and replaced the bad screen with the one in the second phone. it all worked correctly, without any problems at all . well i only enjoyed it for maybe 2 months, and then i got and orange spv M3100. this one worked for just one month, and the SA problems started.

well i thought it was normal SA, but i think there's something else. the screen is off just on the right hand side of the screen. no problems at all on the left half side. but then another problem came up. 3 days ago, i woke up to find that i can not use anything on the screen. i found a way to get to notes, and used the stylus on the screen, and found that whatever i draw, just goes to the far left side of the screen, and appears as one line.:-(

after searching a little on this site, i found someone talking about changing only the digitizer. so this was my plane, and i was starting the process, when i accidentally found something strange: if i press hard on the right bottom side on the screen everything goes back to normal, as if i just re-aligned the screen. it works for a few minutes, and then it goes to be off on the half right side of the screen (but this time just a one or two millimeters off, si i can live with that). i really don't want to do any hard reset, too many programs, too many configuration....

did anyone has the same problem, and if he can tell me how he got it fixed.

P.S.: sorry i don't have a signature, but here's the info:

Orange SPV M3100

radio: 1.47.30.10

ROM: as i got it second hand, i don't know what it is, but it shows "I Luv it V1" with windows CE OS 5.2.1620
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
Well, it sounds as though you started off with the regular SA problem and it's progressed to a more major failure. However the two in my view are related. The initila SA problem results from either pressure being put on the touch sreen (perhaps by the bezel) OR by a poor screen to digitizer connection. In your case the latter I think. The connection has deteriorated and the touch screen is only accepting input from the Y axis.

By putting pressure on the screen or around the bezel you are reforming the connection and getting input from the x-axis again. The problem will be that as you let go, the connection will slowly unstick itself again.

Dismantling, you may find a way to form a more permanent solution. To be honest though that may be tricky. For most folk getting the combined screen/digitizer is the solution. (Though it can return sadly)

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] rorohajj:
thanks for you support mike.

I never looked at it from this way. Maybe during the coming holidays i will try dismantling the phone and looking for a solution around the screen. i only hope i won't make things worst.

Thanks alot man.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cheavannara:
Hi! I am new with Hermes. I just brought SoftBank X01HT. Unfortunately, I got a very serious touch screen problem. Every time, I use the phone for about 5 minutes the touch scree problem occurs. At the top right corner of the screen, the screen is touched automatically without tapping. And when I rotate the screen, the start menu is automatically tapping (on and off, on and off the start menu). In addition, I can't align screen. :( Please, anyone got any idea how to fix it?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mrvanx:
Doesnt sound like a screen alignment problem, sounds like there is something interfering with the top right corner....debris or the screen may not be attached correctly.

Is the phone brand new?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cheavannara:
Thanks, mrvanx, for your comment. Well, from the beginning, I also thought it was the problem of something interfering with top right corner so I removed screen protector then try the disassembling method. Today this morning I decided to bring it the repairing shop and I got my touch screen replaced but the problem is still not disappear. The shop told me it might be the problem of its CPU and it can't be repaired :( However, I don't believe :confused: SoftBank X01HT is also Hermes model, but it is designed for Japan market.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] caterpirla:
Hi all,

once applied a screen film to the LCD, I'm experiencing similar problem to that of oguime: an almost perfect semicircle misalignment but only on bottom of the screen.

I tried to fix it initially removing the film, but nothing, then I've tried with all solutions exposed in this thread, even dismantling the unit ('cause it's out of warranty) to fix the screen with business cards and so on... Result: the misalignment remains steady than ever!!

So, I would ask to oguime itself or to the "guru" mikechannon if there is a way to fix the problem, even substituting the LCD.

Best regards to all...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] dinocol:
Got the same problem. at start it was the start menu, after trying to fix it using the solutions posted in the wiki, it went from top left to bottom left (when the phone is in landscape mode).. any help guys?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hermes1971:
Screen alignment and Flex Cable

i think the flex cable is the real issue in this screen alignment, try to move u r sliding key board in and out, the situation will get very bad.

even we change the LCD display, it wont help us i think.....we should look for a flex cable (image attached) which is connecting sliding keybord (lcd) to main board.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] dvbit2:
Same issue

same issue over here.

Location of problem bottom center. just where the sip icon and above it.

:mad:

Originally working but with some misalignemnt (from time to time) problem.

Now no misalignment but probelm above.

Plus when resetting I have to calibrate for at least 20 (!) times until accepted:cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] rajavass:
Peculiar screen alignment problem

i'm using an o2 atom life and I have a peculiar problem. The screen seems to be sensitive only in a few points but completely out of alignment. But when i tried changing the registry value of the touch screen, the sentitve areas in the screen differ but still completely out of alignment. Does that mean i need to have a seperate registry value for my phone or is there any other way that i can solve the problem. Please help

Raja
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctordx:
I'm looking into purchasing a Nook HD+ tablet. I've played with it in store and it seems like a great buy, especially for the price. I'm a college student and would be using it mostly to view textbooks, take notes, and light game/movie usage. I'm looking for an under $200 tablet and I think the size is perfect (I'm not a fan of 7" tablets). Overall it seems almost too good to be true.

The reviews are mostly positive from what I've seen, but I'm really curious on the longevity of the tablet.

How long have you had yours, how do you feel about it/was it worth buying, and how well is it running after how long you've had it?

Thanks!
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpisini:
Longevity seems pretty good my wife's is a year old no issues still working great. My first one lasted about 7 months and then it lost a fight with a flight of concrete and steel stairs, any tablet would have failed believe me it was almost 20 feet of bouncing. My second one is a refurbished unit I have had it for about 6 months no idea how old it really is and it is working great still.

As far as light gaming and movie viewing it is awesome. I have the hdmi plug and use it to stream movies all the time. I read on it all the time I can't imaging you having an issue with text books as I read books, magazines, and comics all the time with no issues. There are faster devices out there but not at the same price.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctordx:
Thanks for the prompt and helpful response! Have you noticed any sort of "lagginess" when you don't completely end a program (pull up the active program bar and swipe them away)? I was playing with one at Target and it was very laggy, but when I cleared out the dozens of apps that were currently open, it seemed to run more smoothly. Granted this thing has probably been abused for however long it's been on the display case and by many people, but I was just curious if you've had any sort of problem like this.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpisini:
If you expect the same performance as an iPad you will be disappointed. It is about 90% in speed and polish for less than a third the price. I don't have much lag but I keep all my stuff (movies, books, music...) on the external card and I think this eliminates 90% of the lag others see.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DATRUTH141:
Lag is normal for this tablet due to chipset. If you're willing to root, lagfix application fixes the issue by using trim. I run the latest cyanogenmod on my tablet and I love it. I read comics on it daily! Rooting, changing from stock rom to cyanogenmod 4.4 and lagfix, if you have the appropriate chipset makes this tablet a lovable beast of a beauty. I use it for word processing with a Bluetooth keyboard as well. Had it for 9 months and I love it. Would only stop using it for a nexus 10 level screen with an intense graphic processor and expandable storage. But honestly not looking to spend $600 for a tablet, so this is my go to device. I have a nexus 7 2012 that I honestly use solely to read novels and play a few Tegra processor based games. I like the 7 inch for reading novels, but use my Nook hd+ for everything else!
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mcord11758:
Have had mine for about a year. I rooted and flashed a custom ROM immediately. It is an OK tablet for average use with some lag. A good deal at the price but far from being a top product on the market
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctordx:
Thank you for all of your responses! To go along with my original question, how is the responsiveness to using a stylus for notes? Someone was telling me they didn't care for the ability to write on it, but they didn't provide much more detail than that. What are your thoughts? Especially with google play compatability, I'd think there are some good note taking apps (recommendations possibly?). I'd mostly be taking notes on top of PDF versions of slides my professors put out. Thanks again!
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpisini:
Using a stylus is not great at least the one I tried. My Note 2 is much better but then again that was built to use a stylus. Typing is very doable on it I do that in meetings all the time.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JeauxAdam:
I will echo what the previous post said. Not that great with a stylus but as far as bang for your buck goes you can't beat this thing.

Sent from my Nook HD+
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctordx:
Does that depend on the app as well or just not good in general? Even with a pointier stylus than one of those wider ballpoints?
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpisini:
I only tried the one it is one of those freebies Amazon gives out with other things. I actually got it free with a case for a tablet I gave to my daughter. Works ok for general navigation. My mother in law uses the same type for everything on her nook she doesn't like using her finger but she doesn't do any type of note taking just reading and light game playing.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SCWells72:
I have a Nook HD+ running CM11 and an LG G Pad 8.3 GPE. The former has an 8.9" screen but is sluggish even with trim, and the latter has an 8.3" screen and is silky smooth. As of last week the G Pad GPE is $225, so it's only a bit more than the HD+ (assuming it's still $180). I use the HD+ to read comics and the G Pad for everything else. My $0.02 on the HD+ and something similar.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctordx:
Did you get the G Pad on sale? I'm seeing it from $279 online (best buy). I'm nearly positive I'm going to go with the HD+ though. I've been doing app research and I think I've found apps that'll fit my need on it and I don't need it to be super powered.

I did hear from a different forum somebody talking about being able to buy it, play with it during the return period, and then returning it if i don't like it. Is this true? Where would allow that? I would have thought that once it's opened, it can't be returned.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpisini:
Barnes and Noble and Amazon both have really good return policies. Just double check when you buy it.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] geforcefly:
I've had mine for a year now and I'm fairly happy with it. Like some, I rooted and put CM on immediately. Performance is okay, if laggy at times, but the 1920x1280 screen is great.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doctordx:
Thank you for all of the help you've provided. I appreciate it greatly. I was talking with a colleague of mine about this and he brought up a good point about B&N getting out of the tablet game. Will there still be support/will I notice they even got out of the game? He was saying to watch out for it to soon become obsolete and be careful of hopping on the train right before the final stop.

What are your (and everybody's) thoughts on that?

Thank you again!
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] neverborn:
Pretty sure you're going to install CM on it soon as you get it, so no I don't believe you'll even notice the B&N are out of the game, as you put it :)

As the others say, there is a teeny bit of lag but the screen/battery life/sheer functionality you get more than make up for it.

One thing I sometimes wish for is GPS, but for the price really you're getting so much more than you're paying for.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jpisini:
They will continue to provide support through the warranty period and after that well you still have the forums here. The product works well enough as is and they haven't stopped selling content so it should be good for a while.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] extrem0:
I bought 3 HD+ a year ago and all are still good running cm11. One is used as a DVR recording 2 cameras on motion to emmc. It's still alive but might break sooner (hope it doesn't).

The touchscreen is not that good, maybe because I use a screen protection.

Sometimes, alternating between apps (chrome, office) may be a bit slower. I used to use Swiftkey as custom keyboard, but aosps one is much lighter.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bpaulien:
I've had my HD+ for a year and a half. Still loving it. Right now I'm running PAC-ROM on it and not having any real issues. I only update the ROM every month or so. But it's great for videos, surfing and reading. Still have no complaints about it and as long as trim keeps running, it doesn't lag too much.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Only if the upcoming Samsung/Barnes & Noble tablet is all just a dream (or fails badly) ... http://www.engadget.com/2014/06/05/...s-up-with-samsung-for-its-newest-nook-tablet/
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Odenknight:
Looking at their new tablet, I'd rather buy a used or unsold HD+. Sure, I'd get a slower processor, but between the screen, native storage space, and flexibility, I'd use/enjoy it a lot longer.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lmacmil:
My wife's is also over a year old with no issues. Running CM 10.1.3 for about 4 months now. She watches movies on plane trips, reads some and surfs the web. It doesn't get used everyday because we have a computer.
[Nook HD, HD+ Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wellersl:
Mine is coming up on a year old and still has all the issues it came with. :p

But at $150 new, I'd buy it again.;)