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[G3 General] jcase:
The reason is I have more important things in life to do, such as dealing with a family medical emergency (my mother, she is fine now) and work. I'm currently in Las Vegas for Defcon/blackhat, teaching a training session on Android exploitation. I don't plan to work on anything community related until the 15th of this month.

The money generated from a root app is not enough for anyone to worry about, its just a way for me to fight companies that repackage our exploits into unlocking software, or hardware and charge for it. When we charge for it ourself, and implement licensing, it makes it easier for us to fight their commercial theft. If someone else releases one, then that is good. I love looking at the vulnerabilities other people find, and the exploits they write to abuse them.

I have the exploit working, I have used it to root the AT&T and Korean model of the LG G3, and it will work on sprint as well. It needs to be cleaned up, packaged and protected. This will take a few days of work, which I currently don't have time for right now.

Why would I think I'm the only one? You make it sound like I think I'm the only possible person able to complete this job, when obviously I'm not. I'm here in Vegas with hundreds of people who could do it.

My interest is in personal entertainment and education, you are right it isn't in kicking things to other people, and it actually isn't in selling apps.

The Fire series of devices are actually quite fun to hack on, few people actually do much on them. Amazon implements things differently as well. The security team at Lab126 (amazon) is also quite nice to deal with, have had a couple fun nights with them. Will have another one over dinner and drinks in a few days. Their TV and tablet solutions are fantastic, the phone meh not enjoying it.

Most of us experienced in rooting devices are unwilling to take people up on the offer of money or devices before publishing. We have seen too many things go bad, conflicts of interest preventing releasing of exploit and other things. We have seen things like "EvilDevNull" and others simply taking money, making up fake expenses, etc just to hustle devices and money. I have never told anyone to shutup and wait. I did ask that you not send me money. I don't like taking money before I publish anything. This keeps me from feeling like I need to rush or that I owe anyone anything.

Because of that, most of us turn down device and cash before producing anything.

As far as money, I have only charged individuals for one single exploit, and it wasn't even the latest. The latest was the LG G3 "purpledrake" and as of right now, I have collected exactly $0 on it, and spent $1900 on the devices I used during development (ok one I bought after development, but the Flex and first LGG3 I bought before hand).

I'm glad your friend will have one available soon, as I have no problem sitting on mine for the next device. Some of the ones I have, I've sat on for years. I will graciously bow out and wait for his/her/their root to be released.
[G3 General] jcase:
I suspect shellnut, iomonster and autoprime are.

I'm aware of a few others that have one too, but I doubt we will see a release from them.
[G3 General] sinisin:
Your boy better have the goods bro. Cuz you just messed up the only sure shot we had....... ?
[G3 General] SilverZero:
Seriously. Put up or shut up. I should have never left HTC. This cold war crap is a joke. jcase said all that needs to be said. We're not entitled to anything. I'll admit to being spoiled in the past by easy root and S-OFF methods and lots of great ROMs (again, on the HTC side). This whole experience has taught me that it's just not about my needs, and my $99 contribution to the device doesn't pull much weight in the grand scheme of things.

I'm vowing to post no more on the subject, as the conversation has devolved and we're all going backwards at this point.
[G3 General] AFSOC_Commando:
JCASE, I appreciate the fact you enjoy doing this and do not expect money until the exploit is ready. I also do not EXPECT any of you developers to give away your intellectual property. I am patient and do not have any skills. Like many others I would love to have root sooner then later I am willing to wait for a solid root solution, as well willing to pay for your time. I know you will not get rich, but hell maybe you can place it towards flowers for your SO or a case of beer.

Thanks for letting us know whats going on! And hope to hear from you in a few weeks!
[G3 General] SilverZero:
What are you, new here? jcase drinks wine exclusively. ;)
[G3 General] sinisin:
LoL.
[G3 General] jcase:
Thanks, i just spit wine on my macbook pro
[G3 General] revolt1:
Hey jcase don't let some people ruin it for all we all will wait till your ready
[G3 General] Mistertac:
Maybe one of you in here can answer this...

The Tethered TWRP that's being worked on, does that allow for custom kernels or no? I'm just not familiar enough with how a tethered recovery works... My S4 that was Loki'd could obviously have custom kernels. But we still need a bootloader exploit for kernels correct? A tethered recovery would allow for backups, restores, and ROM based off the stock LG one right? Since the Kernel cannot be touched... That's what I'm assuming

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] Mistertac:
Also jcase linked this vulnerability to LK on his Twitter

https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...agaddr-when-loading-device-tree-cve-2014-0974

Is that something to hopefully be excited about? Boy I wish I understood this stuff more lol

Either way, all you guys working on these things are super smart and thank you!

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] AndroidUzer:
If your in Philly and want your LS990 rooted your in luck.

Here's a link to an ad in Philadelphia Craigslist offing to root your Sprint LG G3 LS990 for $50.00!

He will meet up with you only, no remote flashing.

WTF... Some guy in Philly has an exploit but he's not on XDA?

Posted 11 days ago:

https://philadelphia.craigslist.org/mob/4586269386.html
[G3 General] ED2O9:
Have you contacted him to see it he would consider releasing his root method in exchange for a bounty? I've seen dozens of XDA members making donations to a root method that doesn't even exist yet, so it shouldn't be too hard to make it worth his while.
[G3 General] SilverZero:
I talked with him. He isn't interested in a public release.
[G3 General] FuNKSioN:
HA!
[G3 General] sinisin:
jcase said on irc that the guy in Philly is legit but wont release to the public. Some guy in Thailand has said (maybe) that he can unlock and root them. But I haven't seen any files or proof on his site.

So we are waiting for TheWzrds buddy, or jcase to take pity on us, again, and work on it as he had planned later this month.
[G3 General] PlayfulGod:
this thread made me lol.

Patience is a virtue. ;)
[G3 General] TwelfthMan:
This guy disappear or what?
[G3 General] drock212:
Is this the same exploit that was talked about for SGS5 but was said it wouldn't work? I can't remember why it was said to possibly not work.
[G3 General] Mistertac:
I'm not sure myself. I do know that the security in place on the S5 is quite different than on these G3's though so hopefully there's no real comparison there

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] jr313:
It looks like he deleted his account. Smh. Came in a started crap and left.
[G3 General] TwelfthMan:
Well that's just ****ing great. Excuse my language but... Now we're stuck in some root purgatory Hell. Good thing I like this device as much as I do. Patience isn't a strong suit of mine but looks like here comes some practice.
[G3 General] jr313:
I feel ya man! I do like the phone a lot also so it isn't that bad. But at the same time we are all sitting very patient to see the outcome now that s*** pot was stirred. :/ I feel good about us getting root tho time will become our friend. Lol
[G3 General] jmkarnai01:
I totally agree, I might be the only one or ones that liked it because I think that more then one should be working on root. When you look at the post.... Bam there I am liking it. Oh the humility!!!!!!!! :eek:
[G3 General] TwelfthMan:
I was definitely glad to see more than just one person was working on it, with jcase declining to work on his & this unnamed person wzrd was referring to not coming out of the shadows I wonder if anyone is working on it. I did see jcase reference a few others names but I haven't seen anything concrete. :crying:so jcase if you read this, us sprint users are humbly asking you to continue your efforts when the time fits right with you.
[G3 General] RHall1340:
jcase has not REFUSED to work on his. He's clearly said he WILL work on it, but has other priorities until around the 15th. Lets not give him a reason to extend that further! :)
[G3 General] TwelfthMan:
All I said was he has declined. I was not stating a time frame. And honestly the only clear thing I got out of the debacle was some a-hole was being rude and jcase has definitely more important things to take care of right now, which is why I said when the time fits. No requests here other than to not be forgotten. Also the way in which I stated my plea was more of an apology for the troll that started this b.s.
[G3 General] drock212:
He's at the black hat event. If you follow him on twitter he posts some pretty interesting things about what he's seen done on the android side of things
[G3 General] badtzo:
just to report Towelroot works on D855P v10a from Mexico (same as Brazil ??).
[G3 General] skillz360:
Twitter

From Jcases Twitter account- 5Days ago.."@TeamAndIRC: My LGG3 root project is going to be put on hold, as someone else apparently is releasing one soon according to xda"
[G3 General] thznutz87:
What is his Twitter?
[G3 General] skillz360:
[MENTION=487576]teaman[/MENTION]dIRC
[G3 General] thznutz87:
Thanks
[G3 General] TwelfthMan:
That person he speaks of deleted their account. I would say we have been fooled.
[G3 General] Skizzy034:
Seriously. Did anyone not read his most recent posts a few pages back?
[G3 General] engine95:
I ALMOST feel guilty for all this mess. :( But then, all I did was connect the dots that made that other possible root method more visible. If I am the cause of it being more visible for jcase to see... Then I truly apologize to all of you.

Being the optimist that I am though, I know we'll get root/unlock from somewhere eventually.
[G3 General] TwelfthMan:
I tried telling that guy.
[G3 General] TheRealJobe:
Guys/gals,

We're all really excited, and I'm glad there is a community still interested in rooting the Sprint device.

That being said lets reflect on the last few pages of this thread... unfounded speculation, mystery men of Philly, and all sorts of misc crap.

What has that yielded us?

Nothing, other than getting jcase off the project.

(Only temporarily I hope)

:confused:Proposed idea:

If you are not jcase or actively working on the root yourself... lets sit patiently and stop spreading mis-information:highfive:
[G3 General] zgroten:
Purpledrake is trying to raise funds for a Sprint root. Direct your donations towards them and they will have the device in no time. 10 bucks each and I guarantee they will achieve it. Leave a note with your payment explaining its for the Sprint G3
[G3 General] SilverZero:
Source? Because I feel like that's exactly the opposite of what the devs have said.
[G3 General] zgroten:
My source is the first post in the PurpleDrake thread where it says their donations are gong to buying a Sprint G3
[G3 General] SilverZero:
My mistake, I was under the impression that jcase had said NOT to donate For Sprint root because it would be a paid method. I also inferred that he already had a phone based on a Twitter post. I must be confused on whether or not he's affiliated with PurpleDrake.
[G3 General] jcase:
I am affiliated with purpledrake, but don't donate to it in hopes of sprint root.
[G3 General] ED2O9:
Is this because they already have a LS990, they plan on selling the root method or it's just a lost cause? A bit more info would be appreciated.
[G3 General] sinisin:
I rooted a Sprint G3 successfully. I just needed some dirt, a plant and a planter. Put G3 in planter about 1/4 full of soil. Put plant in. Fill with soil. Water daily for 3 weeks. Phone will be full of roots.

If this helped, please feel free to donate to me.
[G3 General] SilverZero:
Wordplay!

I can't imagine what people from Australia envision when they hear that we're "rooting our phones" or, better yet, "rooting our Androids". They must think we love our phones a bit too much. :)
[G3 General] sinisin:
I heard [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] roots the best.
[G3 General] SilverZero:
If I know what you mean? ;)
[G3 General] wvebert:
While I want root TODAY, I also don't know what the hell I'm doing to find it myself. I certainly don't feel entitled to anyone's time, as I know how precious my own is. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] I see you have problems and things going on in life, but don't just let us die because a couple people have to act like entitled little kids. I can wait because, well, I have no choice, lol.
[G3 General] jr313:
Always has!
[G3 General] milliman:
I just traded my Spring Samsung Galaxy S3 for a shiny gold LG G3. In the end I had to root the S3 to do what I wanted it to do, but I figured that I would not need to root the LG G3 because it has a nearly new version of JB and many other new features. It wasn't until I was almost complete customizing it that I realized that I needed to move some files on the SD card. I then realized that Google makes it necessary to root the phone. Now I want to use some apps that manipulate the file system, add fonts, etc. so I need to root the G3. I was hoping that towelroot would work because it is so easy to do. Now I'll pay around $5 for any root method. Hopefully someone is only a couple of weeks away. I thoroughly enjoy this phone and a rooted device would make is "the best phone ever."
[G3 General] sinisin:
You'll pay what they ask, or you won't have root, if they ask anything at all. Its not gonna be 5 bucks. Try 15. Maybe more.

PS-the stock file browser has the ability to move files to and from the SDCard.
[G3 General] suljo94:
you are right he rooted the blackphone(the big on privacy phone) in under 5 minutes on stage on blackhat 2014so yeah he roots the best ?
[G3 General] SilverZero:
I'm planning for 15. If it's more I'll have to save up for a couple of months. Laugh all you want, my monthly budget is like a game of fiscal Tetris. :)
[G3 General] sinisin:
I have to go put cash on a prepaid card to get it. I don't do efunds. I like cash.
[G3 General] Koroz:
don't worry about the snotty remark you got. If you are only willing to pay 5 bucks I respect your ability to limit yourself on what you purchase based on the value of what they offer to you.
[G3 General] milliman:
Thanks. I blow off comments like his. I know the game and I'll pay if I feel that the price is fair. Fortunately Gallery and File Manager aren't that bad but I have my favorite apps that I use on other platforms. I'm just looking forward to root.
[G3 General] Koroz:
You will have to teach me that trick, after 40 years I still can't let little comments go.

Someday I'll learn =)
[G3 General] sinisin:
LoL. You'll pay what they ask or you won't have any fun. How was that snotty? Only saying you'd pay 5 for root is snotty IMO. Telling whoever may be coming out with root that it's only worth 5 dollars is pretty pretentious. Especially when they've probably had to buy this phone just to hack it, then hack it and make it stable and distributable. For a device on a carrier they'll never use. I'll happily pay what its worth consider I'll have the phone for at least a year, it's worth more than they'll charge really.
[G3 General] milliman:
Earlier in this thread on of the developers postulated that he may charge around $5.I didn't make up that price.
[G3 General] Koroz:
If you can't tell why your post was snotty you are a young guy or oblivious. He wasn't saying anything negative he was just stating how much he would be willing to fork over. Are you saying then anyone who offers a bounty on something you don't like the price of all the sudden is cheap or rude?

no.

The way you answered is why it was snotty. The "If you don't pay this you won't get anything!" type response when a simple "You know I heard he is selling it for 15+, that might be a more realistic price" would have sufficed. The most funny part is you know you were being snotty just like you are now but now trying to act like you weren't cause you got called on it.

grow up maybe.
[G3 General] sinisin:
LoL. Whatever. Cry babies.
[G3 General] SilverZero:
Good match, guys. That was fun to watch. Now, if I may redirect the conversation slightly....

Can anybody list the developers that are known to be working on a universal root method (or at least one that includes LS990) and/or bootloader unlock? Recent developments in Vegas have me wondering if jcase is abandoning this project for the Blackberry frontier. Hopefully this is still on his active project list and doesn't fall under the "free time projects".

Just wondering who else I can stalk on Twitter. :)
[G3 General] jaythenut:
You could stalk [MENTION=487576]teaman[/MENTION]dIRC
[G3 General] SilverZero:
Yeah . . . that's jcase.
[G3 General] jaythenut:
Oh is it lol
[G3 General] SilverZero:
Haha :)
[G3 General] ScrapMaker:
I think it was a misunderstanding... I don't believe he meant that it was only WORTH five dollars -- just that was all he was willing to spend. I would consider it snotty if he claimed that no one should pay more. That wasn't what he meant, so far as I can tell.

If you hired a software company to do these hacks, we'd pay $100 for 'unlocking' (root.) I'd bet on it. People throw down $50 on a case, $20-30 on various chargers... maybe $50 more for a wireless charger... bluetooth speakers, screen protectors, and of course various apps. To me, root is the absolute most important purchase I'd ever make for any phone.
[G3 General] milliman:
It is amazing how much chatter my innocuous comment generated. I stated that I was willing to pay for the software at an amount in the ballpark of what a developer threw out. Most apps charge less. Yet physical accessories are more. I was not making a value statement on the root software. Hell everyone expects software to be free so my comment was meant to express that there is value in this work that is worth paying. It is up to the developer to decide what to charge no matter what anyone says, and it is up to me to decide how much I'll pay.

Can we just grow up and drop this discussion so we can get back to the technical issues?
[G3 General] generalkrank:
Applepie
[G3 General] Mistertac:
Lol there's no need for bashing or arguing at all really. Everyone has their own set of expectations and beliefs and every person is unique.

If a Dev comes out with root and is charging for it then everyone can just make up their own minds at that point. No big deal. Just as long as we do happen to agree on the fact that they do work extremely hard on these things that's all.

Hey if ya got the $$ to give to them that's awesome. And if root is $$ and you don't believe in that, well that's cool too... Everyone has their right to believe in what they want though no bashing needed

- Tapatalked from the G3
[G3 General] force70:
If you guys keep this type of nonsense up you have only yourselves to blame when the thread gets shutdown.

So please knock it off and keep it civil and on topic.

Sent from Canada via my Note 3, Note 2 or One X+
[G3 General] TwelfthMan:
Meanwhile, who is even confirmed to be working on sprint? No one I see.
[G3 General] engine95:
Shelnutt2 has the phone, so I think he's got to be. At least I hope.

Edit. Also fiddy619 has rooted before and has it. And hopefully autoprime is in the mix.
[G3 General] SilverZero:
IOMonster / thecubed is getting one this week and is confident he'll have root soon. Also that bootloaders will fall across the board soon after. Autoprime doesn't have an LS990, and I haven't heard a peep from Shelnutt2 on the subject. But with IOMonster on the case I'm hoping for something in the next couple of weeks (for no reason other than optimism).

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54745792&postcount=332
[G3 General] Skyymiles:
Lulz, I'm sick of this LS990 dog and pony show.. Im over waiting for root for this variant, mine or anybody elses. If it was a case of everybody else didn't have it, maybe but when it looks like you're the only ones not getting any love.. I don't have patience when perception is reality/he said she said... Whatever take it up with someone who cares apparently is the new norm. Ya know, Show me the money or save it. It's not that serious if nothing is definitive. Especially when we know a couple people have it. Call it ignorant or what you want but - back to the M8 Batmobile... At Sprint we've learned you pretty much just pick your battles. Right now, we don't even know it's a for sure anything.. And.. It just so happens I have enough devices not to care. Appreciate the devs if it's all you got for a phone, looks like it's gonna be a long ride for the now. But I hope somebody spills the goods, for anybody else's sake anyways. And the ones arguing about how much root is worth.. Lol you ain't got root yet, obviously so.. Somebody should lock this thread, might drive one less dev away... Be lucky if I get enough d/l speed on this network to read the replies anyways hahahaha #untilroot subscribe. Deuces. :fingers-crossed:
[G3 General] D-FUSE:
Gotta love xda. Lol

using my bs non rooted G3 on Sprint
[G3 General] SilverZero:
As per my previous post, the devs that are on the G3 scene simply didn't have a Sprint device to work on. IOMonster is getting one in the next couple of days. I have no reason to believe he won't find something soon and release it. The only other developer I know of that was working on this was jcase, and he's more of a professional security researcher and has been spending most of the last couple of weeks at conferences, so it wasn't a priority for him. He's setting his sights on BlackBerry at the moment, so my gut says he's essentially out of the picture. Maybe he'll pop in and contribute what he has or collaborate somewhere along the line. I'm sure his expertise would be welcomed.
[G3 General] Skizzy034:
Sounds like you care, a little bit. =)
[G3 General] autoprime:
*popcorn*
[G3 General] IM0001:
I continue to wonder a bit why Sprint had to make their G3 a Special Locked Down Snowflake VS. all the others this time around.

I remember the days when Sprint had all the most popular Windows Mobile devices with the most active parts of the XDA community.. Ahh, those were the days...
[G3 General] Skizzy034:
Even just recently, most of the android devices were unlocked on TMO and Sprint.
[G3 General] autoprime:
The past few generations of LG phones have been locked on Sprint... LG Optimus G, G2, G Flex... this was also the case across all regions and carriers... even the Korean variants were locked. The TMO G3 unlocked bootloader is a shock to me and most LG followers. We're still not sure if it was done on purpose.. and if so.. why only TMO?

As for root... Sprint really hasnt gone out of their way to block root more than any other carrier has. Sprint blocked ioroot method which many carriers have blocked.. either at launch or after an update or two. This method being blocked is actually a good thing... ioroot 4.4.2 root method was a security risk(despite being a nice easy way to get root). And as for it not working with PurpleDrake... this is simply due to how the CDMA LG phones seem to be setup. Both Sprint and Verizon do not support the "special mode" we used for purpledrake.

Sprint root will come.. issue was we all had GSM models to work on.. that changes this week. And Sprint will be bootloader unlocked at the same time the other G3 variants are.
[G3 General] IM0001:
Very interesting. Sprint (and Verizon right?) did cut down on the Hidden Menu a lot as well. I assume that is part of the CDMA customization, or is it also part of the security tightening? Don't all the GSM models have full menu's across the board?

I also thought Sprint was a bit over and above with the ZV4 update that only they applied and other carriers didn't, or am I misinformed?