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[Verizon LG G3] Coycaine:
Like many others have done I added a few bucks to my total donation to make it easier to split 6 ways. Thanks for all the work, and thanks [MENTION=4454500]samg77[/MENTION] for maintaining the thread.

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[Verizon LG G3] BladeRunner:
Currently in the process of redeploying to the states from Afghanistan. Once I get an internet connect I feel won't be hacked I'll fulfill my pledged donation.
[Verizon LG G3] Pilz:
It's a long day of travel home I know how you feel. I was there from 2010-2011 and the flight from Germany to the states was the longest leg of the trip.
[Verizon LG G3] tatootie67:
Thank you both for your service
[Verizon LG G3] theotherkindofcouger:
Ditto
[Verizon LG G3] SJUnion:
Payday has come and now I can fulfill my pledge. That being said the OP hasnt been updated, did that guy abandon the thread?
[Verizon LG G3] lfk1:
Thanks for all your hard work. Willy be sending out my donation by the weeks end.
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
Received pledge.. much appreciated.

as for the OP.. yes it seems he has abandoned the thread.. as well as his own pledge (I think anyway.. I haven't seen anything on my end).

Of course it's possible some people are just waiting for payday... or waiting for Bump site to go live.
[Verizon LG G3] Threetailsdeep:
$15 donated confirmation 2HC14807P5122891A

Thanks Cubed!
[Verizon LG G3] spotmark:
Hey [MENTION=4454500]samg77[/MENTION], how about an update? This was your thread, after all.
[Verizon LG G3] SJUnion:
Your welcome and thank you for the work you put in.
[Verizon LG G3] BladeRunner:
Now that I am finally comfortable back in my own living room here are my pledges ($5 each):
[MENTION=1157052]thecubed[/MENTION] 35J10761B5457801W
[MENTION=6053822]IllegalArgument[/MENTION] 89T15218KU733304L
[MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION] 7KC806356R2497022
[MENTION=2413393]Shelnutt2[/MENTION] 1HG63118L6162640B
[MENTION=6074151]AnimatronicRocketReptile[/MENTION] 2F760240LS886593U
[MENTION=912474]Dees_Troy[/MENTION] 6WR891263F9864933

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We were packed like sardines in a 747
[Verizon LG G3] Pilz:
We had a MD-11 and it was just as bad plus our navigational systems broke 3 times on our trip it was fun.
[Verizon LG G3] BladeRunner:
4 hour delay leaving Kuwait, 4 hour layover at Ramstein and 2+ hours waiting for bags in Baltimore because they were "shorthanded" After 10+ years of doing this you'd thing the process would have gotten better, NOT
[Verizon LG G3] greatnesstx:
Crap haven't checked this is a while, nice that boot loader is taken care of, I'll send my donation of 200$ this week,

If I would of known I wouldn't of.bought the Sony Xperia Z3v
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
So anyone else working on a TRUE boot loader unlock? Since it looks like it's gonna be another 3-4 months of waiting before the bump team will be fully releasing their workaround..
[Verizon LG G3] Droid_JD:
I believe this is a true unlock: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56127479&postcount=322
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
Yeah I've seen that and it's not a true unlock. A true unlock doesn't require you to bump a kernel for it to work. Ya know, like the tmobile g3, or any other device that has one like the nexus or a dev edition htc one, no 'bump' necessary.

Bump is a workaround as it requires manually altering/signing the kernel every time you make a new kernel to fool the boot loader into thinking it's legit because the boot loader is obviously still locked. It's really pretty straightforward here. If it was really unlocked you wouldn't need bump at all. Just build from source and flash and done.
[Verizon LG G3] jager420:
Were lucky we got this..Verizon is locking their phones down pretty good..if you want a true unlock buy a nexus
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
Probably going to honestly. I bought this device solely to dev for it as I got many requests to do so. My main phone is an M8 and I don't need the g3 at all. But with all the bounty money gone to codefire for just a twrp recovery for the next ~4 months, I doubt anyone is going to bother doing any other work on this bootloader. Sucks to be everyone who is stuck with this device with no development for who knows how long. :/
[Verizon LG G3] dabug123:
Well ROMs are working ,cam is fixed by blek who has done amazing work.However sadly no one will be able to enjoy a custom rom without bump unless T-Mobile or fastboot kernel which Verizon does not have.

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yep true
[Verizon LG G3] jager420:
There's been so much going on with this phone in the past month what do you mean by no development..I think the devs are working fast and hard
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
maybe im wrong, but you seem to be a little off with your assumptions.

yes we dont have an unlock like a nexus, but as far as i have read, you/devs will be able to bump the files needed to make custom roms and such as soon as codefire gets the site finished, which reportedly is going to be very soon.

although, now that updates are rolling out, presumably, patching bump, im not sure why they dont just post the code needed publicly.

perhaps the exploit has some other implications, either way thats not my call.

as phones get more and more locked down, especially on verizon, i think the initial development slow down will be more common place (yes there will be a few exceptions).

i appreciate all you devs do for us, if i have to wait a bit for it to progress, you will never catch me complaining.

if it wasnt for my unlimited data, which im never going to willingly give up, i would have already switched to a more development friendly carrier.

just my 2c

nothing personal.
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
Yeah I agree for the most part, but the latest post from codefire is they're not releasing the site for devs to bump themselves until after L comes out, which means a good 3-4+ months(assuming bump still works on L) of my device being a glorified paper weight. The only work that can be done until they release it is stock Rom's... I mean I can do that no problem but my other work is on complete hold, no aosp and no kernels.. I'm just kinda mad about the whole thing. If they have it and it works currently they should just release it so we can all get the ball rolling, if lg patch it they'll patch it with or without the site being released regardless, so why wait? The risk of people not reading and *possibly* bricking their phones from an ota is there no matter what anyone does.

Anyways, I'm done talking about it, this thread isn't the place for that as it is. We'll see what happens and if I stay or not. It's up to them to do whatever they're gonna do, I'm just not a fan of how they're handling this.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
wow, i must have missed him saying he was going to hold it until then, that sux.

im pretty sure its patched from the jumbled reports in the ota (rolling out now) thread.

maybe he will change his mind about releasing it now.

regardless of my opinion, i have to respect his.

looking at the amount of people already whimpering about loosing the unlock and root because of taking the ota and asking them to fix it, i dont blame anyone for holding back for any reason.
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
While we should have waited a few more months to rls bump... no one has come out and said "Bump will not be released for 3-4 months"

Waiting 3-4 months would have no benefit... as LG knows about Bump today. It would have been ideal to wait because at that point.. Lollipop bootstacks would be available to use with Bump... that may no longer be the case. Not sure yet...

BUT we can still wait a bit to see what the next move is... and it certainly won't take 3-4 months. We have the best interest out for everyone here.. this isn't all for us.. this is for the community.
[Verizon LG G3] budven:
So what is the future of this phone?Are there going to be developers? This is the first phone I have rooted and installed twrp. After reading the last few posts it almost seems as if I should restore to stock and just take and be happy with what Verizon gives.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
sure, there will be development, you just have to be patient.

there are devs waiting on the bump code to build roms for us. a couple have told me that, im sure there is more.

autoprime is just trying to help us get L roms if possible. give them some time to get it sorted out.
[Verizon LG G3] budven:
I am willing to wait. The comments by Holy Angel just raised questions regarding the possibility that the devs have given up on this phone. I think it is a great phone and look forward to it even becoming a better phone.
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
100% agree. I can't leave vzw because of my unlimited. It would cost me minimum $50 more a month over what I'm already paying if I didn't have unlimited.... And I'm not a power user. Root is absolutely essential... And everything else is gravy. I can be patient. I do look forward to the availability of a true Nexus device on vzw.... So hopefully that is a trend that continues and HOPEFULLY the play store n6 plays nice with vzw AND development
[Verizon LG G3] gparmar76:
I agree...I don't think he should be collecting a dime of the bounty money if he won't release the unlock for all devs to use...anyway, I had high hopes for this phone but looks like I'm just going to get a Nexus 6...all I wanted was Cyanogen for the G3...but I'm not gonna sit around hoping and waiting for it...maybe I'll just hold on to it as a backup to the N6.
[Verizon LG G3] 318sugarhill:
These guys don't do it for the bounty money just so you know.... And the second they release their method and it gets blocked by an update what do they get for their hard work? Are you able to get a custom recovery? Yes..... Unlocked. Pay up if you pledged. There was no other stipulation in the bounty.

But thanks for complaining so that you potentially piss off someone who helps me out so they no longer want to help us.
[Verizon LG G3] acparker18:
I kind of have to agree here. I understand that Bump is Team Codefire's work and they can do with it as they please. I am in no way upset about this; however, I am upset with the fact that this device will not see any true development for several months because the team refuses to release their signing tool. Also, by having to Bump each kernel you want to flash, this phone is, by definition, not unlocked. The fact that the team has argued from day one that this is a true unlock, yet have not released a way for anyone to flash another version of kernel just shows that it is definitely not a true unlock.

I have yet to even see anything past 4.4.2 boot on my VS985, so I have no way of verifiying if the Bump signing tool even works. The day I see some Bump'd kernels booting on some of these G3 variants is the day I donate to Team Codefire. I refuse to donate for a custom recovery when we have been guaranteed a signing tool, only to have it pulled back from us. Don't get me wrong, I appreciate what Team Codefire did and I am forever greatful to have a working custom recovery on my phone, but I cannot justify calling this a true unlock when no one has actually been able to use it to flash anything Bump'd. I feel like a lot of people who pledged money to the team and haven't paid up are simply waiting on the Bump site to go live. [MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION] I don't think people are bailing on their pledges, I just think they feel the way a lot of us do about this whole situation, a little bitter with LG. You can bet that as soon as that Bump site goes live and I see some Bump'd kernels ready to flash, I'll donate, even though I did not pledge.

On another note, I understand the hesitation with releasing the site as LG might patch it in an update and brick a lot of people's phones. However, those who take an OTA update after Bump'ng deserve to have their phone bricked. I know that seems cruel, but I'm sure even Team Codefire is absolutely sick of idiots blindly taking OTAs after rooting and Bump'ng. These people don't need to be doing any kind of dev work on an android phone if they can't figure this out and maybe a bricked device is what it will take to scare them from doing it again.

[MENTION=1211160]HolyAngel[/MENTION] please don't let this temporary setback keep you from developing for our device. I love your work and I know this phone may take a few months to be ready for Bump'd kernels, but it will be a great device when that day comes and I would hope to see some G3 love from you. I will definitely donate to you and any of the first devs to get a different version of Android running on this beast. Please don't get discouraged as I know this is all frustrating. Just know that your work is greatly appreciated.

That goes for Team Codefire as well. I am in no way badmouthing them at all. I am grateful for a working custom recovery on this device and I will be even more grateful when the Bump site is live. I know I don't understand all the technical details of why the site is not up yet, but I do know that many people still feel as if their phone is "Loki'd" because of this.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
You seem to he missing the bigger picture here.

If it gets publicly released now, it will be patched before or by L.

Would you rather have a couple months of full development, or a couple years?

Seems to me, that's what's at stake here.

Jmo

Sent from my VS985 4G
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
Don't worry, I'll be sticking around.. waiting to develop for this once we get the way to do so. In the meantime I guess I will make a stock rom, have another week or so until I get my device but its en-route.

I do appreciate you coming forth [MENTION=2684188]autoprime[/MENTION] to clear up some of the vague post's I've seen on an eventual release. Thanks to you and your team for your time and effort, I'll be patiently waiting :)
[Verizon LG G3] hochoch:
What cam fix are you referring to?
[Verizon LG G3] fersayken2:
I have money!
[Verizon LG G3] VivianC:
So I am now seeing several ROMs that have been Bumped (including my favorite Liquid Smooth) so I am guessing the Bump site is live and working. I'm going to test it on my phone this week and I get paid Wednesday. Unless someone can tell me that it isn't working, I'm sending in my bounty payment. Does codefire have a single donate account? I'd hate to see my donations eaten by Paypal fees by splitting it up.

Great work team!
[Verizon LG G3] spotmark:
Bump'd site is up, and the ROMS are starting to flow. :good: I'm loving Liquid Smooth. Still a few bugs, but not bad.
[Verizon LG G3] mwebb34:
Is the bootloader really unlock able or is it just a work around?
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
Its a work around, but better then nothing at all.
[Verizon LG G3] droidkevlar:
It is not a work around. Please don't answer stuff you have no idea what you are talking about. This fully unlocks the boot loader.
[Verizon LG G3] HolyAngel:
... if it fully unlocked the bootloader we dev's wouldn't need their signing tool in order for the boot images to boot. They would just boot like any other device with an actually unlocked bootloader. I'm answering stuff I know plenty about.
[Verizon LG G3] droidkevlar:
So then you are calling the team liars? Because they have said numerous times it is not a work around.
[Verizon LG G3] mwebb34:
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Do we use twrp, I'm over looking it, would someone point me in the right direction
[Verizon LG G3] droidkevlar:
Does it matter if its a work around or not? It unlocked the boot loader and we can flash any ROM.

You use twrp when u push their IMG. Make sure to follow the steps exactly.
[Verizon LG G3] trent999:
We use a special TWRP, modified in a really tricky clever way by the CodeFire Bumpd project so it will pass the boot loader test for having been securely signed. Its looks signed, after having been Bumpd. Awesome achievement, however it was done, but the boot loader will still refuse to load anything that doesn't pass it's security check.

Whether that means the boot loader is "unlocked" or not is kind of a matter of semantics at this point. I'd say not, but the effect is we can load a replacement recovery once it's bumped, and replacement kernels after they are bumpd (right?), so its all good, from a user's perspective.

Be wary of OTA updates though. Really.
[Verizon LG G3] mwebb34:
I downloaded the new twrp 2.8.0 used flashify to install, didn't feel like doing it the adb way. So far everything is running OK. Running Vanir AOSP 4.4.4 ROM. Thanks

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OTAs are frozen!
[Verizon LG G3] sic0048:
Actually it does not fully and permanently unlock the bootloader. Do you have an unlock symbol that shows up after flashing a bumped zip like you do on other phones? Can you flash anything you want without having to modify the zip with a boot.img file that the LG bootloader will consider as a "signed zip?" It's NOT a traditional unlock where the bootloader is permanently unlocked (until the user decides to lock it again) and things can be flashed without further intervention. If you have ever owned a phone that has a truly unlocked bootloader (like the Nexus phones, or a Oneplus One), then you would immediately see the differences.

From what I understand, technically Bump does unlock the kernel in a sort of "one time" unlock method. This means that in the future, things can be flashed without requiring further intervention if they don't modify the boot.img file that has been bumped. For example, if you flash a CM ROM with the bumped boot.img and there was an upgrade that did not effect the kernel, then you could flash it without having it bumped again. However, in reality everything is going to be bumped because it is simply easier that way and people will always have success flashing things. It makes no sense for a developer to have a bumped and non-bumped version of builds.

However, anytime you want to flash a zip that changes the kernel or recovery, etc, then you will be required to use the bumped modified boot.img. When people say it isn't a full unlock, this is why they say it. A traditional unlock would not require this. Also, it is important to realize that when people say it isn't a full unlock, they are not trying to cheapen the work that the bump developers have done - it is simply a way to distinguish the fact that zips likely will require the bump modification in order to work.

The developers call it a "full unlock" because it does apparently unlock the bootloader until the low level programming is changed. But anytime a new kernel or recovery is attempted to be flashed, that zip must be bumped (ie modified with a cracked signature that the LG bootloader will accept as an official LG update) which clearly shows that this method is not a true and full unlock that developers and users are use to with other . Does bump work? Absolutely - and for that I am grateful to the bump developers!
[Verizon LG G3] VivianC:
Works for me.

I now have TWRP on my G3 and can install custom roms. That was the goal as far as I'm concerned.

$20 sent (doubled because of the crappy way the bump guys got ripped off)

Confirmation #: 7H0222223X6318832
[Verizon LG G3] cbrehob:
I too will donate once I get my G3 in a few days.
[Verizon LG G3] iBolski:
Unlocked means there is no checking the signature and you don't need root to install TWRP. In this case, TWRP has been "bumped" to "fool" the system into thinking it's an "approved" piece that can be flashed. All it will take is for LG/Verizon to release a patch that prevents this.

For example, on my previous phone, Droid RAZR HD, an exploit was found to make the bootloader become unlocked. It was a physical change where it blew what could be described as an "eFuse". Once this happened, there was no way for Motorola or Verizon to "relock" the bootloader once it was unlocked. At that point, TWRP or CWM could be flashed onto the phone and no root exploit was needed to use root. Just flash SuperSU inside TWRP and you were good to go. No "Bumped" ROMs were needed. Also, upon booting into fastboot mode, you would see the word "unlocked" on the screen for the RAZR HD line, so it was truly unlocked.

In our case with the G3, we first have to be rooted to install the bumped version of TWRP. A true unlocked bootloader would not require that. What we have here is a way of making it "appear" as if the bootloader is unlocked, hence we can flash different kernels, but the TWRP we use is different from other TWRPS. An OTA patch could take this away in an instant.

With a true unlocked bootloader, that can't really happen, especially in the case of say the Droid RAZR HD (XT926) which had an exploit. In fact, that exploit WAS patched by Motorola and people who took the patch BEFORE unlocking were screwed and couldn't unlock the bootloader UNTIL Motorola did a snafu and when they released the first KitKat OTA, they accidentally reverted the bootloader piece to the code that had the exploit and then people were able to unlock the bootloader again, until the next KK OTA. But, once it was unlocked, it was always unlocked. No patching would prevent that. Unlike this method.

But, hopefully, it stays this way and just maybe, someone might find a true bootloader unlock. Until then, this is what we have and I appreciate that the devs discovered this. It's not an easy thing to discover.
[Verizon LG G3] Slickademo:
I am looking to buy a Verizon LG G3. I'm confused with all the arguing.... Is the bootloader unlockable? Just root and use flashify? Does this unlock the bootloader or just a work around? Sorry if this question has been answered, obviously the answer isn't clear. I've seen pledges paid which makes me think it is unlocked. Just looking for confirmation.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
you can flash roms, or whatever you want to do, so does it really matter if its a true unlock or a workaround?

its technically a work around, like loki, but not the same.
[Verizon LG G3] Slickademo:
Does that mean you could never update your radio ? Just curious if it'd affect any other update of any sort you'd want/need ?
[Verizon LG G3] roughneckboren:
The devs can pull what they need from updates if they choose to do so and put in a flashable zip if that's your question.
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
At least for Verizon vs985, autoprime created a couple of flashable .zip files. I've used them to do several updates of modem, boot, and system, to install update .img files.
[Verizon LG G3] iBolski:
Until LG or Verizon release a patch to stop this, it will continue to work as is. You can downgrade (at least from 11c, not sure about the latest 12b release), but as far as a "true" unlock, no it's not truly unlocked. LG or Verizon could plug this hole up at some point. So far, they haven't, but don't be surprised if they do when Lollipop comes out.

Until then, we have the ability to flash new ROMs and kernels as if the bootloader was actually unlocked.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
i never upgraded off 10b, but have the new 12b modem on, and cm 11 4.4.4

the best thing to do if you want to mod is, dont update stock off 10b except for the modem, until which time it is needed, and known safe to do.

before someone jumps in and tells me its safe to upgrade this or that, there is NO point or benefit if your going to run aosp roms.

there is no root for any other versions, and you cant flash twrp without it.

just my 2c, hope that helps
[Verizon LG G3] kinfolk248:
When/If a patch does come out to close the bump loophole, can/will it effect those who have already unlocked..?!

Im not unlocked as I just got my G3 yesterday (12b unfortunately) and trying to figure out what files I need and what order to proceed with things...
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
since this a "work around" and not a true unlock, if you take an ota that patches it, you will loose it.

use the tot to go back to 10b, if that fails, use the kdz, then the tot. from there you can use all the exploits.