yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon LG G3] kinfolk248:
Hey thanks bro, this is my first non-nexus phone so i'm so confusing by all this and irritated that its so damn complicated for no reason. ..
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
granted, its not as easy as a nexus, but its not really that difficult.

the only reason you need to revert is, there is no root for any other build, and root is needed to flash the bumped twrp.

i dont want to say this situation is standard for non nexus devices, but there is frequently some hoops to jump through.

the situation could easily be much worse though, if there was no way to revert, to get root and bump.
[Verizon LG G3] kinfolk248:
ok, sooo point me in the direction of the 10b/c file (or whatever its called lol) so i can downgrade and get my root on, cus all these punk*ss Vzw apps are annoying. Kinda just want stock, I'll even take stock KK over this skinned crap smh. Although I probably may try to keep one or two of the LG apps even tho i'm sure i can find them in the playstore...
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57360126&postcount=2
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
If you want to go the custom recovery route, installing bump/twrp, either freeze "System updates...". or rename the two LGDMSClient files in /system/app. That way you won't get ota updates shoveled onto your phone. bweN has a thread with links to the boot, system, and modem files extracted from the ota, in case you want to flash some of them (modem.IMG gets you the latest radio drivers, the protocol that talks to cell towers).
[Verizon LG G3] kinfolk248:
NOOICE (key and peele voice lmao) I'm gonna read up on this as it seems downgrading from 12b to 10 will be the most difficult part of this process... Gonna wait a couple days tho as I just got the phone and trying to see it its a keeper first before i go chopping it up with mods lol. Definitely gonna make a 'stock' backup in case i do hack something then turn around and have to send it back (my battery sucks, >3 hr sot)(2nd day of use)...

Edit - just switched to ART and phone is NOTICEABLY slower, warmer, freezes... (not the right thread but still lol)
[Verizon LG G3] blkhrt13:
Okay, I apologize in advance, but I actually just got my Verizon G3 today, and have rooted on the 10B software. As I'm understanding it, the bootloader IS NOT unlockable yet. Or Loki capable. However, since I have root and the ability to run root apps such as TWRP Manager, can I go ahead and install TWRP and start flashing ROMs with a locked bootloader? I apologize again, but I just want to fully understand the situation before I try anything.
[Verizon LG G3] bweN diorD:
yes, but you need to install the "bumped" twrp. it includes a bypass like loki, but not the same. it tricks the signature verification or something to that effect, so you can flash roms and such.
[Verizon LG G3] blkhrt13:
Okay, I actually just ran the program with success. I rooted on 10b, and read through this post but couldn't find anything that said which software version you needed to be on, so I just said to hell with it and ran it. And it was a success! Thank you for your reply
[Verizon LG G3] Jhinta:
so could this give us full bootloader unlock?

http://www.slashgear.com/android-so...cted-qualcomm-trustzone-in-question-31442245/
[Verizon LG G3] R-T-B:
Maybe. I don't know enough, but I do know some recent devices won't run under a pre-46A bootloader. Making a "bump" type bootloader or finding someway to unlock the bootloader is as such, something I'd much like.

I'll put $100.00 towards anyone who can acomplish either of those tasks. Via paypal. And yes, that's one hundred dollars.
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
I thought everyone was aware of it already. There was another bounty thread, but it got shut down from all the infighting going on.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Well I'm still playing catch up I guess... I've only had the phone 3 days and I've been scanning the various G3 forums and for some reason missed that one.

Thanks again though

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] brav0ulu:
I'm in for $100.

I wish I had the time to dedicate effort instead of cash on this one, but some help is better than no help.
[Verizon LG G3] jlokos:
Put me down for $25.
[Verizon LG G3] BladeRunner:
In for $25
[Verizon LG G3] markfm:
In for $25
[Verizon LG G3] jlseven:
I will do $25
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
loki is dead. patched in 4.4.2. that can be removed from bounty. so that leave full unlock only?

or how bout booting custom kernels? :)
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Are you hinting towards something ... Boy I hope so!

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] hlxanthus:
Well if you can run custom kernels, why not custom recoveries . . that's the whole point. All that is really needed is a method to wedge twrp or cwm in place. But that becomes tricky with a locked bootloader.
[Verizon LG G3] sic0048:
If you can load a custom kernel, then you have access for a custom recovery.

Something like safestrap on a locked bootloader only allows for custom ROMs built on a stock kernel. In other words little more than bloat removal and theming, all of which we can pretty much do with xposed modules now anyway. That type of solution won't quality for the bounty......
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
correct. booting custom kernel. not safestrap method using stock kernel.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
There are instances however where they're is Kexec support and custom kernels can be loaded using SafeStrap.

My old Moto RAZR is an example of that.

I agree with you though... That's still different I believe vs unlocking the bootloader or exploiting it through some way shape or form to them be able to run a true custom recovery like CWM or TWRP

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] shawnten:
Supposedly there is a Recovery app in the development section that is supposed to work
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
curious if before booting into CWM it shows the LG boot logo proving a true boot into recovery.. or if it's just being loaded from system or something.
[Verizon LG G3] Crooke356:
If your asking, it does show the LG powered by Android logo, then the red VZW screen flashes for a sec, before going into CWM.
[Verizon LG G3] Skizzy034:
Sounds like it's booting from the /system. It shouldn't show the VZW screen at all. If I remember correctly, adb would become active after a reboot as soon as the boot animation/splash screen appeared and I think that means the system is up and running at that point. I could be wrong.
[Verizon LG G3] demium:
Thanks you!
[Verizon LG G3] sjavvaji:
Any idea on how this actually works?

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/recovery-cwm-chinese-english-d855-f400-t2825994

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/development/lg-g3-f400-recovery-6-0-4-9-t2825865

From what I understand, this doesn't allow for flashing custom kernels, right? Otherwise, we would be home free.
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
not sure of the exact method here.. but you are correct its not running a custom kernel. it is not a proper recovery and it is not bypassing any security.

this has been out for a bit now and is all of the sudden resurfacing after new G3's have hit ppls hands.
[Verizon LG G3] sjavvaji:
Ah. It seems like it doesn't even replace the stock recovery. Just a fancy zip flasher. Hopefully we can get a proper custom recovery in the coming days. :)
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
anyone in the position to brick a vs985 and it not be an issue? verizon repair tech for example..
[Verizon LG G3] suzook:
Buddy of mine is vz tech. What can I help with?
[Verizon LG G3] bigshotrob22:
Nice.
[Verizon LG G3] jmotyka:
I find hilarious watching these people willing to f*** up almost $1,000 piece of hardware to get fix with crack flashing. These boot into custom recoveries have been around a while now. They are worthless because they cant write to system partitions. Im pretty sure someone will find a way to unlock our boot loaders. I have hope. It will happen my little padawan's.
[Verizon LG G3] Addiso:
You can always say it will eventually happen but may never even come. S4 never did, S3 and Note 3 latest updates never did. You just never know.
[Verizon LG G3] jmotyka:
This is true for the Samsung Variants.......BUT!...... LG's phones have never really had a great deal of security behind there bootloaders, Jcase said this many times. As a matter of fact Jcase as said many times that because of LG's lack of security on their hardware he wont use an LG phone as a daily driver.
[Verizon LG G3] Crooke356:
Anyone think that if we get an unlocked bootloader, it'll be achieved without someone that is willing to mess up their device?
[Verizon LG G3] iowabowtech:
Trick question. Err...rhetorical question. ;)
[Verizon LG G3] Addiso:
Yeah I've always been a Sammy person, first time I try an LG so it's something I've been reading up on.
[Verizon LG G3] jmotyka:
I've had an s3 and s4 and for some reason Samsung is losing touch with it's consumers and not building a phone we want. I will not buy another Samsung phone unless they wow me like they used to. I've been with android since the HTC G1 and I've been hooked since. I used to port rooms from other devices and quit a couple years ago due to my career. I would have waited for a nexus device but we all know Verizon won't allow another open device on their network(pricks).
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
I didn't know this, I've only had 1 HTC phone before this one and i knew Samsung has really high security but i didn't know LG has issues
[Verizon LG G3] tech_head:
Samsung has lost me to LG.

KNOX and the complete lockdown of the phones.

It's gotten crazy.

How many would buy a PC if Dell said you can only run Windows on it and would void your warranty if you ran Linux?

That's what Samsung has now done. Modify the software, trip KNOX and warranty void.

It's a computer with a modem.

lock down the modem software and let me do as I wish with the OS.

Anyway, I digress.

Since as far as I know LG does not use SHA256 to sign their bootloaders, there is hope.
[Verizon LG G3] huskerkate:
i'm in for $25.
[Verizon LG G3] sjavvaji:
Random but probably terrible idea, especially for the Verizon variant...I just took a look at the stock images for the LG D851 and unpacked it. It does have a boot.bin. Now I was wondering if you could flash a T-Mobile stock rom (or a Verizon stock rom with the boot.bin from the T-Mobile version) to unlock the bootloader. I mean the last phone I was flashing firmware to was the Galaxy S Captivate via Odin and it never had any problems flashing European Galaxy S stock roms (the buttons got remapped but that was an easy fix). Now I don't know if LG has any measures in place to prevent this or if this would even unlock the bootloader. DO NOT TRY IT and I am not responsible for any damage that might result. Just some food for thought.
[Verizon LG G3] swcunn:
I'm in for $15 on the Verizon version.
[Verizon LG G3] sjavvaji:
just took a little more detailed look...the AT&T and T-Mobile variants are very similar...the only lengths that differ other than the system or user data between them are the boot.bin, laf.bin, and factory.bin...the verizon differs in a lot of other non system/userdata things so they would obviously need more of an exploit. I don't know how unsafe this would actually be because the files look pretty identical...in any case, probably what the mods are working on
[Verizon LG G3] sgtmedeiros:
I tried it. Don't do it. It trips the security and changes your model number making restore almost impossible. Only way I could is to find the old g2 universal dll to skip version check.
[Verizon LG G3] sjavvaji:
I wonder if there is an in-house LG bootloader unlock utility.
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
Hope you don't get picked up for B&E trying to find that. :D
[Verizon LG G3] mfloyd:
Edited
[Verizon LG G3] ctbaker:
Put me down for $10 (verizon).

Thanks
[Verizon LG G3] spotmark:
I'm in for $20, on the Verizon bootloader.
[Verizon LG G3] WACOMalt:
$100 from me.

Will send via Bitcoin ($100 USD worth at current value at time of payment) or paypal.

Please and thank you :)
[Verizon LG G3] big gulps huh?:
$20 from me.
[Verizon LG G3] darkcroc:
Ill pledge 20$ extra 10$ if done by July 31st if possible
[Verizon LG G3] dbatech99:
$25 if done by August 30.
[Verizon LG G3] veg8:
I'm in for $20!
[Verizon LG G3] timothydonohue:
$20 if done by Aug 1
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
You guys specifying deadlines are just being ridiculous. You know they won't release anything that's unfinished and in theory they could take home more from waiting rather than to grab your small change.
[Verizon LG G3] samg77:
Agreed, I don't mind tracking an expiration date of over a month, but I am not counting an expiration date of shorter time frames.
[Verizon LG G3] lossah:
25$ here for D855.
[Verizon LG G3] slaytanic:
I'm in for $30 for the Verizon G3
[Verizon LG G3] tschmid:
Also 25$ for D855
[Verizon LG G3] PWn3R:
Time to PM Dan Rosenberg - also, i'll go in for $25
[Verizon LG G3] dbatech99:
That's why I'm giving it over a month. I don't think it's unreasonable to put a fair timeframe. Are you going to pay 6 months to a year from now after you possibly have another phone
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
no way these losers will unlock it...
[Verizon LG G3] jager420:
Root LG G2/G3, G Pro/2, G Pad and Other LG 4.4.2 devices

im thinkin maybe u can???
[Verizon LG G3] sjavvaji:
Really hope you are foreshadowing something ;)
[Verizon LG G3] huskerkate:
Has anyone heard any chatter in IRC or anywhere about whether any progress is being made on the bl or Loki? I'm not sure what the channels are, only having owned Nexus for the last few years...
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
From what the devs have said before they're working on it pretty much everyday. You can look for JCase, AutoPrime on Twitter as well

- Sent From My G3

---------- Post added at 03:03 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:00 PM ----------

Check here for more updates

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54308743

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] vibsOveebs:
Well this guy did it or it seems like it:

Twitter: https://twitter.com/WACOMalt/status/494582551105650689

Good news for Verizon users, AT&T still waits.
[Verizon LG G3] Coycaine:
Well then, lets hope that means what we all want it to mean.
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
I wet myself when I saw it.
[Verizon LG G3] shawnten:
o wow
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Very pleased to see this!

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
He'll yeah anyone know where to get latest I'm literally driving home from Vegas now I'm driving faster lol
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Not sure it's at that point yet lol were being teased as of this moment. Either way it's great to see TWRP on a Verizon G3!

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] bose301s:
If the bootloader does get unlocked I may pick up a G3 to replace my G2, the better camera makes me want it.
[Verizon LG G3] Alien-dx11:
Does this mean the Bootloader is Unlocked? Well regardless, this is Awesome!!!!
[Verizon LG G3] bose301s:
As of now I definitely would not say that it's unlocked, but they have gotten TWRP on it which is always a step in the right direction.
[Verizon LG G3] Colchiro:
I'm looonnnng overdue for a nandroid.
[Verizon LG G3] giri0n:
Well, since I used WACOMalt's guide to return my G2 to stock (so I could sell it for the G3) it looks like I am doubly in his debt now - working TWRP is incredible.
[Verizon LG G3] allan1313:
Release the kraken!!!!!
[Verizon LG G3] Crooke356:
His words "it's a tethered TWRP (for now) more details soon". Or something close. So it looks similar to what's on the D855. Exciting how quickly things are coming along.
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
what does that mean.
[Verizon LG G3] b0bj0e:
It means you have to plug the phone into a computer and send commands to start TWRP.
[Verizon LG G3] vibsOveebs:
Reply

He replied

[IMG="Twitter"]https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B-Lf-9j-p7QAd2lGQmdPVFhtZ3M/edit?usp=sharing[/IMG]
[Verizon LG G3] t1n0m3n:
It means that this solution is no different than the tethered CWM already posted or safe strap were it available for the G3. This won't change the locked bootloader.

Bounty seems to still be up for grabs with no known impending breakthrough yet.
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
Well for the verizon version it's great, people were using cwm made for the Korean variant but it was completely useless since the partitions weren't correct and you couldn't restore nandroid

The bootloader may not be unlocked but now we have a recovery
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
I thought if you had cwr that means roms
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
I've only seen another Tethered TWRP for the international G3 not CWM ?!

Has it been stated that we wouldn't be able to flash custom kernels of any kind using our son to come tethered recovery??

I've only read that it's fully working. Course there aren't any Roms or kernels right now to try anyways

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
I'm hoping that it will unlocked
[Verizon LG G3] Addiso:
What I've read so far it's like an ipod/iPhone tethered jailbreak , you can do what you like but you have to actually boot twrp each time using the computer. It keeps everything you flash, but the hassle will be being next to a computer to flash something that could potentially go wrong.
[Verizon LG G3] IamPro:
But will the phone run normal if I reboot it (not from recovery)? I know on iOS tethered you need a computer just to restart the phone (at least that was my experience iPhone 4).
[Verizon LG G3] t1n0m3n:
I should have made myself more clear. I am stating an opinion like everyone else here.

I realize that the international version doesn't work properly for the Verizon variant... But that wasn't the point of the statement.

I assume that bootloader still locked means no kernels... Which means no AOSP roms. Anything different than the above and it's news that is interesting.

I predict that tethered TWRP will turn out to be just like the CWM solution, only difference will be that it will be specific to Verizon variant so restores will work like they do on the international version. No AOSP, no kernels.

Of course, I hope that I am wrong.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Yea I gotcha man! Hopefully somehow it'll allow for custom kernels, if not right now then In the future.

If not then the only real benefits of this one vs the other CWM based one is that this one CAN restore a backup as well, since it is in fact for our variant.

Guess well just have to see when it gets released.

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] Addiso:
S4 had no unlocked bootloader but still ran by kernels and aosp on mdk loki bypass . Maybe we will never no until release comes. :good:
[Verizon LG G3] vibsOveebs:
Okay so this is what they use for encryption. This little SHA-1 hash. We need to generate this ever time for bypass. Any ideas?
[Verizon LG G3] t1n0m3n:
Here's to hoping. Cheers!
[Verizon LG G3] IamPro:
Any idea of a release date?
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
1 hour, we got it on a countdown
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
Your kidding right.?
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
Yeup,
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
Lol nice
[Verizon LG G3] Coycaine:
For an unlocked bootloader? Lol no
[Verizon LG G3] tech_head:
:confused:

That's like asking "When is the second coming?" or "When will the world end?".

The only valid answer is: You will know when it happens.

Sheeshhhhh..........................
[Verizon LG G3] IamPro:
Everyone is a clown today huh?

I was referring to the tethered pic that has been floating around, guy said dev would release it soon.
[Verizon LG G3] Coycaine:
You still shouldn't be asking about release dates though....you know you're gonna catch hell on XDA for that!

Here's the link to the original tethered thread.... Seems like the actual dev who got it working wasn't too happy it was leaked. http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/recovery-twrp-2-7-1-3-t2831668
[Verizon LG G3] tech_head:
Yep.

but my answer is still valid. Only the person releasing knows when it will be released.

This is XDA, you know you are gonna get clown answers from, well..... clowns like me.

Sarcasm is great!

P.S. - That tethered picture is for an international version, don't try that on a Verizon phone....

Can you say "BRICK".
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
Annnnnd let the flood begin
[Verizon LG G3] kwkw480:
Link please
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
What do you mean
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
Was chatting with someone about how there's gonna be a flood because a little bit more info got out so I thought it would be funny to post before ppl started talkin
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
damn irc scrapers
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
I don't use irc, but I think its funny to hint things. I won't actually post

Just wanted to annoy ppl a little befor stuff got out lol
[Verizon LG G3] kwkw480:
Thanks for wasting my time. Xda should have an age limit in order to register. Oh wait... A lot of the adults here also act like children. :)
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
Lol
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
Really, I'm not the person to leak crap. Maybe me hinting something was for people to go take a quick peak through some stuff

Just didn't wanna do it in a disrespectful way, so what if I get a little bit of a laugh with a few ppl before crap starts spreading
[Verizon LG G3] autoprime:
hmm its friday.. maybe we could have some fun. like getting fastboot :)

like stuff on twitter?
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
I think he was only kidding
[Verizon LG G3] bunchies:
Thanks auto lol

---------- Post added at 10:47 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:45 PM ----------

Idk maybe
[Verizon LG G3] bose301s:
What Twitter handles do I need to follow to see all the work on the bootloader, I know Auto Prime but what other ones?
[Verizon LG G3] huskerkate:
Look at the peeps AutoPrime interacts with - [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1931009]WACOMalt[/MENTION] are a couple to watch. Altho JCase seems to be taking a break.

Edit: JCase goes by [MENTION=487576]teaman[/MENTION]dIRC
[Verizon LG G3] jcase:
The jcase on twitter is NOT me, my twitter is http://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC
[Verizon LG G3] greatnesstx:
Count me in for $150
[Verizon LG G3] revolt1:
Hey jcase please continue with your work on the g3 please don't let one bad apple ruin the bunch
[Verizon LG G3] huskerkate:
Doh! Sorry about that - my bad.
[Verizon LG G3] spotmark:
I really hope this comes to fruition. As much as I like the metal body, on my M8, the wife's screen and camera, really make me want the G3.
[Verizon LG G3] shawnten:
surprised that the recovery hasnt come out yet
[Verizon LG G3] hawkswind1:
Maybe they like making us wait a little bit lol. Or maybe there has been further developments?
[Verizon LG G3] allan1313:
It's only been a few weeks and it's not as popular as a Samsung phone. I believe a little patience is due.
[Verizon LG G3] shawnten:
O im fine with just root I just thought with that tethered recovery posted on Verizon pho e that it was coming sooner than later.
[Verizon LG G3] WeThePeople13:
Agreed man. I remember on my ReZound we had to wait for a long time for S-Off. The wait makes the full package of unlocked feel sooooo sweet. Root is good enough for me.
[Verizon LG G3] slaytanic:
Switched To The T-Mobile G3 For The Unlocked Bootloader, And My New Job Kinda Assumes I'd Have A T-Mobile Phone. Lol.

I Won't Retract My Bounty Donation If The VZW Bootloader Gets Unlocked, Still Promise To Pay
[Verizon LG G3] pimpmaneaton:
Ha that's awesome I am in the same boat with both phones. Love the M8 but if this get unlocked and AOSP goodies come its way I'll will trade up for sure.
[Verizon LG G3] Mistertac:
Here's an update from one of our talented devs over on the ATT side regarding this phone getting unlocked. It's good news for sure!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54642541

- Sent From My G3
[Verizon LG G3] allan1313:
Good news!
[Verizon LG G3] Coycaine:
They seem pretty confident! Awesome news indeed. This place is going to blow up once the bootloader is unlocked!
[Verizon LG G3] droidrev71:
I'm glad to see that they are confident that something good is about to come out. Sounds like when they can get more time to pick through more stuff we will all be celebrating!
[Verizon LG G3] jager420:
I can't wait to get some AOSP goodies..I came from the gs3 and I have been fiendin to flash something....