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[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Just to be clear when i say factory reset i mean via flashtool or Sony PC companion (support zone>repair device)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaroonZ2:
Understood. I just reset my phone by using."back up and reset" in the settings menu. Nothing changed. As I have just read what you said I'm going to look into using Sony PC companion.

P.S is flashtool and Sony PC companion legit. Meaning will they mess up my phone or my computer with malware?

What's the easier and safest tool to use?

Thanks..

Haroon
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _timm:
Sony PC companion is official, it will download firmware through the app and install it to your phone. Flashtool isn't official but is trusted - although you do need to source and download the relevant firmware yourself to flash to the device (making it more difficult and maybe less secure than the official Sony software.)

Neither will install malware on your phone (just don't download it from a dodgy website).
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaroonZ2:
Okay brilliant. That's helpful! I wouldn't want to take any risks on.my phone I've had it barely 10 days, paid.top price and it's already malfunctioning. Such a pain!!!

Thanks again

Haroon.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Well just a side note, quite a few of the issues with the Z2 are caused by google because 4.4.2 isnt the most stable android release ever and neither it being bugless

Alot of wifi,data and system stability issues are caused by 4.4.2 android not sonys rendition (of course sony tried patching)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaroonZ2:
Yeah 4.4.2 is pretty bad. Google should make a new update!

One of the worst thing of the 4.4.2 update is definitely the fact you cant move your apps to your SD card, unless you flash your phone. Ive tried apps like app2sd and it wont work on 4.4.2. Its so limited in how you can spread and balance your data. I have a 128gb SD card and have trouble copying my music and videos from the phone to the SD card all the time.

Damn GOOGLE :(
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Well 4.4.3 fixed alot of issues and 4.4.4 was a small security patch

Z2 Is still waiting for 4.4.4, Z1 ZU n them lot have 4.4.4 from sony

As for SDcard use we are kinda stuck without use unless we root
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaroonZ2:
Yea that's a shame about the SD cards.

I just factory reset my phone using Sony PC companion to figure out why my calls and texts don't work and factory reset did not help... What a bummer'

What do you mean there is 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 I never knew there were higher updates for Z2 on kitkat 4.4.2
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Android is made by google, you should keep up with it, you may find useful info

However the android in xperias in sonys hands to take android and update their phones
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HaroonZ2:
Okay yea I should actually.

Thanks for all the help mate.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Imaginati0n:
I just managed to solve all problems on my previous post, but now after restoring a backup while making some experiences. It appeard 2 inbox and 2 deleted items in the text message account :(. After that and making some more tries i restored again trying to remove and stayed with 3 inbox and 4 deleted items. I tried everything...searching the registry...all...but didn't found a way to delete them...anyone knows if this could be done without formating and installing all again...
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lmf_slacker:
what program do u use to back up your information on your device?
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Imaginati0n:
Spb Backup...but this happened when i tried to make a parcial restore after having some problems with a today app. And the backup i made after is already with the 2 inboxes and 4 deleted items. He dont replace if there is any messege in the box just creates a new one.
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] lmf_slacker:
i believe u might have backed up your messages n emails when u did a backed up using spb backup, u shld have left out those so when u restore them there will not b any problem
[P3300, MDA Compact III General] Imaginati0n:
Already tried twice deleting and not that's why the inbox number and deleted items number keeps increasing...There were an app for WM2003 that was clean mail made by spritebackup for a problem with the inbox that stoped working after a backup. What that app did was cleaning Messaging and the device restored it on the reeboot but unfortunally this app dont work on WM5. Is there anyway to reset the accounts?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] htcdude123:
I have been trying to figure this out for the past 4.5 hours. I have searched numerous forums but cannot figure out what i am doing wrong. I am using OSX and thought that might be the source but this is my second HTC One (M8) and I had no problem with the first one.

I have also tried this on a Windows 7 computer and get the same results... as follows, i only put the end after you except the firewater exploit with a "Yes".

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, hold power for 60 seconds !!

=========================================================================

preparing, one moment

The first bottle is open

chugging..........

whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 2

chugging..........

XXXXXXX-MacBook-Pro: platform-tools XXXXXXX$

has anyone else had an issue with this? Im wondering if the "HTC Sync Manager" that is on the phone is screwing up the process. because im using the WeakSause Temproot and When I'm in the shell waiting for root so i can enter "su" the HTC Sync Manager pops up and knocks me out of the Shell.

Please help this is driving me nuts and is ruining my weekend!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] aer0zer0:
Yes, you gotta uninstall it and leave the driver
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Lodingi:
This.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] brholt6:
If you're on a Mac you can just uninstall HTC sync manager. Don't worry about the drivers.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] htcdude123:
I understand that. I'm talking about the window that pops up when u plug the phone into the computer. It pops a window up for u to install HTC sync. I think it's inturupting the shell commands since root takes 30+ sec for me to get su du to the delay in the weaksause exploit
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] htcdude123:
I did uninstall sync. From what I'm reading I think the updated boot loader might be the issue? That is according to other posts. I'm not sure.

It seems like if this is the case the sunshine s-off method is the only choice I have I just want to make triple sure before I invest $25
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Its because firewater no longer works, you have to use the sunshine app now to get s-off. And sunshine is not a donation type of deal, you have to fork over $25 up front if you want s-off and that is $25 per phone. The saying goes nothing is for free anymore, unless you count the polluted air lol. Have to give them credit though as they know they have you over a barrel and they really thought this one through.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] brholt6:
Edit: just saw your reply in the other thread.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Yeah supposedly the exploit for firewater no longer works and it says that when you try to use firewater and it fails. I had it work on the newest software a couple weeks ago, but now it wouldnt work on another verizon m8 I tried for a friend. For all we know the people that made firewater joined in with the team that made sunshine and both share the $25 per device fee. If you think about it that fee probably really adds up to some serious cash. Or for all we know its all done by htc and they are the ones charging the $25 fee as a way to get more money lol, but then they would probably do that on the other models of m8 also, unless sprint, at&t & tmobile requested that htcdev be able to unlock their customers devices. No matter how you look at it someone is making some good money from sunshine.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] brholt6:
Makes sense I suppose...better save my old download haha. I did donate to the firewater team twice when it first came out for the m7, though.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] robocuff:
Ummm, the people who made firewater are the same people who came up with sunshine. No great conspiracy here.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
Haha! I was literally going to post the exact same thing, but I didn't have enough time earlier.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Yeah so I"am really curious to know if the firewater has been changed at all including the download to rule out this being done deliberately, as firewater worked for me 2 weeks ago on the same new verizon software and now all of a sudden firewater no longer works ? Makes you wonder doesnt it ?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dragontology:
My Firewater file's MD5 is f63ac6f73bf369cfcc5b1c046221fabf and that worked for me on my second try.

I've been following this Firewater vs SunShine S-Off thing, and while I generally support the idea of a fee for a guaranteed S-Off, I think it's a tad unreasonable that they want $25 per device. I mean, how many people are gonna need it for more than one? You got the one, and if it works like it says, what's the other one? Your next phone? That's not gonna be a ton of people. And for those it is, so what? They paid. So many apps are per user for however many devices; you'd think a more expensive one would have looser, not more restrictive licensing.

But I also understand where the devs are coming from. They bricked a bunch of phones to get us this exploit, and if you got the One M8 for $200 or less (I got it for far less) and you saved hundreds by not buying it unlocked or the GPE model, $25 for S-Off ain't a bad deal.

I'm actually surprised custom ROMs don't cost money. It's a great thing what our developers here, and elsewhere, do for our devices. Of course if you pay for a ROM you want it to work flawlessly. How would y'all feel about an Android custom firmware ecosystem where you paid for (or subscribed annually to) your ROM of choice, got updates via email, good one on one support, and with that money, the developers were able to... I don't know... do more somehow? If the prices were fair I'd like to see developers get paid more.

So, I'm not surprised to see an exploit have a fee. It does seem high and the license restrictive. But I think, if it's a sure thing, it's not a step in the wrong direction.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
Charging for roms is not allowed here. The whole spirit of Android is open source and sharing. Charging for roms wouldn't be great for the community for a lot of reasons. Services such as s-off I can understand because we're saving a ton of money not getting a developer edition phone. $25 isn't unreasonable.

Main reason why we love android so much is because of the spirit of open source and sharing. Imagine if the big aosp rom names, such as cm and aokp start charging to use their roms. The countless of other custom roms that use their base as a source would be unable to use it. All the great development and features we get wouldn't be pushed by different rom developers because each would be building completely from source.

Trust me, everyone charging for a rom is exactly what we all don't want. Just donate when you can, no rom developer is looking to become rich anyway. Just give what you can so they can get something for their hobby and obvious talents. They appreciate anything you can give.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
I agree with you on most, but usually any bricked phones at the beginning can usually be unbricked so I cant imagine there really being many if any m8's that were not able to be fixed and sold off after at almost break even on the phones used, as usually new phones the value stays pretty high especially when its the best smartphone on the market like the m8 is and many months later its still on top.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
It works still someone posted yesterday they just got it working an just got there phone...he said he used superuser instead of SuperSU.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] cj2566:
I can confirm what [MENTION=5317224]Tigerstown[/MENTION] stated. I had 2 M8's on the new software and firewater worked just fine on both. The red M8 took a second try though.

Sent from my #6F6E71 M8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
If firewater says "no amount of retrying can fix this" then firewater simply isn't going to work. If it fails while chugging and just doesn't work, but doesn't display that error message, then it's a different story.

It all depends on what the internals of the phone are, but people who get that "whelp, that sucks" message won't get a different result running it multiple times. Maybe newer batches of M8's will work with firewater, it's certainly worth trying it.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
I think its a supersu issue because with weaksauce the supersu will keep listing it needs to update binary and saying reboot and try again and it does it non stop. So I think you get past the supersu update binary issue like using superuser like others listed, get past that and firewater may work for you even if it does list that it wont work for you, get your supersu issues fixed and try firewater again. Dont give up easily and it may save you the $25 for sunshine and keep it in your pocket.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] cnotes2019:
What method is this? Thanks!

http://youtu.be/uOPZ9DnVrrY
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] silver04v:
Can't be used on Verizon devices.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Lol only way you can use that is like me if you use java card for s-off change Cid an then u can get unlock from HTC as it tricks it cause you supercid so it don't know your VZW.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
I like htc but they need to get a backbone and tell verizon to shove it on their blocking htcdev unlocking bootloaders. I think htc has a good enough following with the m8 that verizon would have to be stupid to press the issue on not unlocking bootloaders as verizon is getting hit hard with smartphone sales losses, gee guys maybe its because your such pompous asses and think your too good to compete but where has that philosophy gotten you ? Answer is with at&t breaking down your back door and little tmobile sticking it to you too lol. Verizon Karma is a ***** and your number one on her list lol.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
Even if htc wanted this, it isn't feasible. As long as verizon is giving them money then it doesn't matter. Htc needs every sale they can get anyway. The small percentage of us who care about an unlocked phone is insignificant.

They don't have a good enough following, s5 owners outnumber us at least 5/1. I bet there are even more G3 owners than M8 owners. It really isn't a very popular device despite it being rated the best throughout the year.

What we really need to do is get htc to create better commercials. That would increase sales. Zoe, dual camera effects, and the gestures highlighted in a commercial would do wonders for them. Nobody I know has any recognition of ever seeing the M8 advertised. Really sad considering how great this phone is.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
I just read a article in the times magazine saying vzw second quarter profits were highest the ever been in years. An that VZW accounts for 74 percent of all smart phones. So I don't think they r hurting at all an could care less bout HTC. An myself HTC couldn't stay afloat if VZW dropped them.

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You ain't lying. HTC marketing sucks. Look at apple the sell tons of junk to people with money cause the have unreal marketing skills an bout that sales number why HTC normally don't release real numbers Samsung claims the sold a lot of s5 which there is more the the m8 for sure but then in a article Samsung admitted of lying bout there sale numbers to look better so who really knows how many more ....can't say I'm not helping htc I have 6 HTC m8 which replaced 6 m7 ? on my account an my old mom who can't see good has the note 3 lol
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
The average buyer has no awareness or cares how limited their phone is out of the box. Of course everyone hates bloat ware, but even if the phone had an unlocked bootloader out of the box, do you think the average user would do anything with it? Probably not. Most users wouldn't go through the hassle of figuring out how to delete system apps or debloat their device, let alone flashing anything without a graphical user interface.

You are mistaken if you think Verizon is losing money on smartphone sales because of this. Their sales are better than ever, and we as a community have nearly 0 pull on their company. Verizon wants our phones locked down for less warranty returns and "network stability" , and HTC doesn't care because they're getting sales despite Verizon being a PITA. Verizon wants bloat ware because it's free advertising for them, they make money off the poor services that are pre-installed on devices.

The only two companies that can afford to say "we aren't letting you sell our phone unless you let us decide what goes on it" is Apple and Samsung. Apple has done this for years, Samsung could probably do it now and get similar results. If HTC said this, Verizon would say "goodbye". They can easily afford to lose HTC. Without Apple, or to an extent Samsung, Verizon would be bankrupt.

Most people only care about having their phone working out of the box with no user modification at all. All that matters is advertising and recognition. Without those two what do you have? Lots of expensive paperweights that don't get sold because nobody recognizes your phone.

Unfortunately, "Samsung Galaxy" has become synonymous with "Android" just like "Apple iPhone" is synonymous with "iOS". It's up to HTC and other companies to increase brand recognition and take sales away from them, having an unlocked bootloader and easily root able device is not a priority for them, nor should it be.

I would like to see your data on Verizon only gaining money on tablets, because there's no way that's true.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Look at the numbers they dont lie your seeing total numbers meaning spartphone with tablet activations added on it well documented its why verizon has revised plan costs and why they finally let lte on prepaid because they were losing out because they were being too greedy and the other carriers mainly at&t has profited from verizons being so greedy and at&t gophone and now cricket plus all other at&t mvno's have all profited from allowing lte data on prepaid. Verizon finally figured out they were losing too much ground by keeping a tight leash on lte and their declining smartphone sales let them know that. Last fall verizon ceo said in a news conference that their prepaid would probably never get lte ? So tell me what prompted them to do a complete 180 well you can contribute that to slow smartphone sales. The only way verizon is competing is because they were forced to, their greed had hurt them being so errogant thinking they were holding all the cards only to find out their bluff had come back to bite them on the ass.

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Oh and your saying most people dont care about being able to remove bloatware check again, just like you probably thought that most people dont care about phones being carrier locked, try again they just passed the law making cell unlocking legal obama just signed it and it even talks about making it easy for people that are not tech savy to do so maybe its coming just like cell unlocking made legal was and people not tech savvy get help. And just because samsung thinks they are like verizon samsung got busted for lying about their reported profits look that up too. And saying when android people think of samsung that is wrong when thinking android people think of google and now motorola since I believe it was google that bought motorola. And the only thing people think when think iphone is that is for old people lol, and another is such a tiny screen they are just over rated too.

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And verizon wanted a verizon logo on the front of the htc one m7 and how many months later than at&t, sprint, and tmobile did verizon get the htc one m7 ? And did the htc one m7 verizon version come with a verizon logo on the front of the phone ????????? That says it all verizon caved and never got the verizon logo on the front of the htc one m7 so there you have it htc stuck it to verizon and said no and verizon is the one that caved and not htc so point taken htc can take on verizon and win...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
I simply don't agree with most of the things you are mentioning. I think your views on what the majority of the market wants aren't right. But you're entitled to your own opinion.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
And I do not agree with the things your saying either. And I believe your views on what people want in the market are not right either, and the cell unlocking law passing is just a sign that people do want phones to work as they want and just because most people are not tech enough to root and remove bloatware does not mean that it wont be made easier so everyone can do it, just as the sunshine app does what firewater does only anyone can easily use sunshine as its easy and does all the work for you. And yes everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but like everyone says opinions are like a holes everyone has one...

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Correction I listed samsung lied about profits it was not profits it was that samsung lied about the number of sales of the s5 samsung lied and said they sold more s5's than they actually did so take the number of listed s5 sales at face value, maybe htc should start lying and over stating their sales numbers on the m8's. How is samsung lying overstating their s5 sales in any way not a dirty tatic by samsung...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vacoray:
does anyone have a link to a firewater that worked that is not on there site now?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
Jcase said using an old firewater file won't work and is dangerous.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] T4rd:
Reposting this from another thread that linked to this one since it's relevant and I don't want you all thinking it's Firewater that's the issue here (as in trying to force you to buy Sunshine):

I'm on my 4th replacement M8 (all due to various hardware defects) and this last one seems to not be compatible with Firewater; keep getting the "Whelp, this sucks.." message that it can't work on my device. Just tried using the exact same Firewater file on my defective M8 (that I'm about to send back) and it chugged all 3 bottles fine and is unlocked/S-Off again (so now I'll have to lock and S-On it again before returning it).

HTC is going to repair my current phone though and send it back out to me since this replacement phone is a bit off too (the display is way too warm/red compared to the others I've had). So I don't want to pay for Sunshine when I'm going to be getting my old phone back in a week or two and if the old Firewater method is still compatible with it (and if it it isn't for some reason, I would have to pay for another Sunshine license for it since it's only per device ). The only differences between software or hardware versions I see in the About menu is that this new replacement is on Hardware version "0004". So I guess they've actually rendered the Firewater method useless though a minor change in hardware. And you can rule out the Firewater devs intentionally breaking Firewater in order to get you to buy Sunshine too since I just used it again on my old phone without an issue.

So if anyone has any methods for me to permanently root without using Firewater or Sunshine, I'd greatly appreciated it! I'm only looking to use Xposed installer/modules on the stock ROM, so I really don't care about flashing custom ROMs/kernels.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mohanned85:
is firewater not working