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[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
The shield is pretty much stock android with some additions and anything Samsung is going to be running a bloated touch wiz. Also I'd be willing to bet that this will receive updates faster and more frequently than the Samsung. And if you are going to game on it then there is really no competition with the GPU on this thing.
[Shield Tablet General] darkmatthew:
Thanks for answer!

Saving money for shield tablet.
[Shield Tablet General] falconw13:
Your right there is no other tablet on the market right now that can touch this tablet! Here is my Antutu Benchmark to prove it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-hBmPylPQw

Nyko Playpad pro and gaming review coming soon! Subscribe!
[Shield Tablet General] NapalmDawn:
Hrmm. Potential ASUS TF200 style thing happening here with the WiFI (well, the TF 200 was a GPS thing). Wonder if they can fix it via firmware. Shame it went out with such a potentially glaring issue.
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
Oh my, running Mario Kart - Double Dash! on Dolphin emulator on the Shield Tablet - getting between 43 and 57 fps on time trial tracks. For a non-desktop device that is hugely impressive. I think my Note 3, which lacks latest OpenGL support, can do about 3fps.

So far no issues with WiFi here.
[Shield Tablet General] falconw13:
Borderlands 2 and Battlefield 4 with Gamestream!!! Also a little demo of the FIXED Nyko Playpad pro controller.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=roc0oBlID-A

This tablet is a BOSS.... more to come with Nvidia Grid and Emulators!
[Shield Tablet General] IRKONIK:
Oh, NICE! Can you play split screen with two controllers? Or even more? Super Smash Bros Brawl would be so cool!

Also, 40fps? That's insane. Higher Resolution, higher framerate and better games than the "next-gen" consoles! :highfive:

Awesome.

A little off topic: Can I use AA on the Dolphin emulator? If so, how low do the fps dip then?

Cheers!

Edit:

I just watched your (??) video! The one thing I am worrying the most is latency. Inside the network it won't be too big, but let's say you are out, and your ping is over 50. This will affect gaming outside the house immensly.

And on the go, your ping will spike to over 100, even with complete dropouts. (e.g. Travelling by train)

So grid does not interest me as much as emulators. Those will be really f*ing cool. Especially when stuff like AA works. All those Nintento 64, GC and DS games will be playable fluently, PS2 and PSP games, too. And with AA, they look STUNNING.

How well does the Dolphin-Wii Emulator perform?
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
The Dolphin emulator probably still has a ways to go, but for the foreseeable future only the K1 and newer SoCs from Nvidia will be able to do it at all well (better OpenGL support and drivers). 43-57fps is in time trial mode in Double Dash, and actual racing is still fairly well unplayable - and that is at native Gamecube resolution with no graphical extras like AA. Some of the really basic Wii and Gamecube games will no doubt run extremely well already, and in those AA probably won't be too deleterious to performance. It's hugely impressive nevertheless, but not there yet.

PSP on the other hand is running extremely well, even at 1080p - Tekken Dark Resurrection basically locked to 100% fps and speed with no frameskip or other performance tweaks, Wipeout Pure running extremely well (absolutely wipes the floor with other Android's I've tried it on), and as previously mentioned GoW still not up to snuff yet. Yet to try Reicast and see how that goes.
[Shield Tablet General] falconw13:
I haven't tried the Dolphin Emulator yet, i am using the PPSSPP app to run psp games. I will be throwing up a video soon with the controller support and the emulator snes, n64, and PSP. Also going to get another controller to demo two player modes within the emulators. I was trying to play Sonic in PPSSPP and there was incredible lagg that made it unplayable. Ill give the Dolphin Emulator a shot and see what works!
[Shield Tablet General] rushless:
All emulators except Dolphin and PPSSPP are about 99% cpu leverage.

PP is about 90% cpu and Dolphin about 60% cpu, so a LOT of potential for the Shield tablet due to the powerful gpu.

PS2 though is still heavy cpu, so probably still a slide show for gaming. A lot of discrete hardware still to manage.
[Shield Tablet General] solidsn:
Dolphin on PC with Gamestream on Steam

Yes dolphin is slow on android but...

Add a shortcut to your steam setup and just run the pc version of dolphin through steam and gamestream it to the tablet and BOOM! Full 60 fps with any dolphin game! I have only a GTX 650 and 3.0ghz quad core on my pc.
[Shield Tablet General] falconw13:
This does work, But it would be awesome to get good performance with emulators away from wifi or internet access.
[Shield Tablet General] IRKONIK:
So, will there be a seperate subforum for the Shield Tablet, or not? The device is out, people have it, but no subforum?

Also, it sports complete different hardware than the old shield..
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
This ^

I want it on device.
[Shield Tablet General] MOFO-Bro:
Separate sub forum would be great we need specific areas we can look if any problems crop up or we need to share something that just tablet can do.......anyway.

Just got my tablet and it's fantastic so far, no WiFi issues at all , haven't really tried any K1 games yet but did load nVidia Grid and OnLive and both work amazingly well. Really surprised how good Grid works since I'm on the other side of the country (MA) but if I didn't know I was using the servers from San Jose I would think I was using my own hardware to play the games, very impressed.

Synced my Steam account with OnLive and played Metro 2033 and like Grid it worked great and had no perceived lag....love the new nVidia controller just wish it worked with my PC/laptop so I would only need one controller for everything.

So far so good :good:
[Shield Tablet General] T-Keith:
Lots of submissions in the new forum thread, maybe we need more.
[Shield Tablet General] markymark567:
Give it time, the tablet has not even launched in the UK yet (Aug 14). It would be foolish for xda to not give us a dedicated forum. No offense, but if the Shield portable got it's own forum, the Shield tab has to.
[Shield Tablet General] IRKONIK:
The market in murica is way bigger than the european one, so it is kind of weird that "we" don't have a subforum yet. Especially since most of the subforums exist before the device is out. (Like it has been with the OPO for example. I bet there are more units of the Shield Tablet already sold than the OPO are produced. I have no numbers to back this up, please don't kill me OPO-fans. :silly:)

I have another question to an owner of the tablet and controller: How does the controller compare objectivly to, let's say, the PS3 or Xbox 360 one?

Build quality is one of my biggest concerns, since the PS3 and Microsoft ones are really crappy. (Even worse are the "next-gen" ones.)

Just because it connects via Wifi and has some fancy touchpad doesn't mean it's worth 60€ (or 50£)! (80$ (or 85$))

Cheers!
[Shield Tablet General] soju59:
Like mine so far. No WiFi issues. Mine does occasionally turn itself off (Auto Power Off is set to Never).
[Shield Tablet General] nrage23:
I just got my controller yesterday and the build quality is excellent. The touch pad area comes in handy and the volume buttons are very nice. Feels like a Xbox controller.
[Shield Tablet General] Saint11226:
I like how in 2 instances, you made yourself look like a douche.

The market in murica

Why do you have to refer it as "murica". I hate this stupid term, since it's usually used when idiots make fun of it when certain events or tragedies take place here. No reason to say that term in a thread such as this. Just makes you look like a douche.

Build quality is one of my biggest concerns, since the PS3 and Microsoft ones are really crappy. (Even worse are the "next-gen" ones.)

Um, the PS3 controller is far from being crappy. And the next gen one? How is the PS4 controller even worse? The PS4 controller constantly gets praised for being even better than the DS3, and I have both. The only negative being the battery life(which doesn't suddenly make the DS4 become terrible)

So how the hell are the DS3 and DS4 both horrible? Or are you just one of those guys who overblow things and make certain things look or seem worse than they already are?
[Shield Tablet General] IRKONIK:
Wait, no whining about bashing the OPO? How nice of you!

If I offended your proud murican heart by calling your federation "murica", I am truly sorry. Please understand, I ain't no saint!

2doochy4u

Wait, wait, wait. "horrible" - I never said that. I said, "really crappy". I called the new ones "even worse". As far as I can tell, no unit was mentioned. And "horrible" is a way more powerful word than "really crappy". Horrible means "it rapes your wife, eats your dog and burns down your house". "Really crappy" means "not up to what I expected for my money". I might should've written that, but then I also could've written "The United States of US and A".

Which, by the way, would've also rustled your jimmies.

I've wasted 50€ on a xbone and 50€ on a DS4 controller. I've wasted 75€ on two 360 controllers, and 50€ on a DS3. I've sold xbone and controllers. I've sold PS4 and controllers. I've "destroyed" two of the controllers for the 360 and the lonely DS3.

Being more cautious about blowing another 60€ on a controller which, again, might not live up to what I expected, would make it worse, since I wouldn't want to touch it after finding out which weaknesses it has.

By no means I wanted to make them sound bad when they are new. The controller of the xbone is, ergonomically for me, pretty amazing.

The features in the DS4 are pretty cool. But in the short time I've used them, both lost "tightness" in the thumbsticks. In addition the DS4s lost about an hour of play time. That's not good! I have a wireless mouse from 2011. It uses one 3.7V 350mA battery, of two. Both of them are still working fine. I never had any problem with the mouse itself, not even with the drivers. I had luck with that thing. I had no luck with the controllers.

And that kids is how I met your mother started disliking controllers.

Cheers m8. I hope you r8 8.8/8

Also, please, let me understand that correctly: You've made an account to tell me about how rustled your jimmies are? About what a "douche" I am? Really? This post I quoted from you is your first. You have never before that thanked anyone here. You've never lurked with an account. You signed up just to tell me what I already know? This is hilarious! Thanks! :victory:
[Shield Tablet General] aznmode:
I would love to use this but is wifi connection really required?
[Shield Tablet General] rushless:
You seem to be just a tool that appears to be trolling. Or Borat now trying forum posts instead of faux TV interviews :)
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
It's WiFi Direct, a WiFi router connection is not required - the controller connects directly to the tablet via WiFi Direct.
[Shield Tablet General] aznmode:
Thank you for the clarification. Did not know that. In that case I will be buying one after all. Just have to wait for best buy to get more so I can use my gift card.
[Shield Tablet General] IRKONIK:
Oh, cool! Hopefully somebody is able to connect the shield controller to other devices, too. That would be really cool! Especially if I could connect to the PC with it. Then it'd be worth 60€! If I could use it with my multi media machine, I'd buy it in a heartbeat!

I'm just angry when people swoop in here and try to insult me. I hope that's understandable. The real troll is the guy with one post.

Cheers!

Sent from my HTC One (M8)
[Shield Tablet General] nrage23:
The controller will only work with the shield tablet or shield handheld. You can connect up to four controllers per device.
[Shield Tablet General] darkmatthew:
Hi!

Does somebody is trying to port/make cyanogenmod for this tablet?

Any custom rom will be available for nvidia shield tablet?
[Shield Tablet General] D-m-x:
Well, I don't know anything about Developing Roms, but if it is truly possible for the shield I would say a few weeks from now we could see some custom Roms. Next week it will be available in Europe which could kick the process off.
[Shield Tablet General] darkmatthew:
I hope Cyanogenmod will be available :P

Im waiting for 14august.And im buying this tablet

I love gaming on mobile

Dead Trigger,real racing etc.
[Shield Tablet General] darkmatthew:
I hope nvidia shield tablet is better than tab s 10.5
[Shield Tablet General] dcaplinger76:
Better how? I have both, each have their strong points.
[Shield Tablet General] darkmatthew:
I can buy 100$ cheaper new tab s 10.5 than nvidia shield tablet

For gaming

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Tab s 10.5 vs nvidia shield tablet

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in general

Tab s 10.5 vs shield tablet
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
Is that certain though? Nvidia mention you can use it wired too, I wonder whether it'll work with other Android devices and maybe even PC on a wired connection. Has anyone tried? I would, but unfortunately still awaiting my controller.
[Shield Tablet General] Wesley_NL:
does this device plays lagg free with mkv, with ssa/ass subs hi10p aka 720p/1080p 10bit ?, im an anime watcher and most anime contain styled subs , subs with colors, moving sign text, overwrited text exc...if not i stay ultrabook
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
Oh, now that's a very good question! Will have to try my video test files and see whether this SoC is finally the one for 10-bit playback...
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
I've compiled a cwm recovery kind of a blind thing. If you don't mind testing and have an unlocked bootloader you don't need to flash it. You can use the commands

This will only boot it for testing

fastboot boot recovery.img

To flash it if and only if it works and meets all your requirements sdcard mounts and external sdcard mounts , flashes zips like SuperSU

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

If your interested in trying this out and don't have a clue how to install and use fastboot here's a guide

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2277112

If your good with adb and it boots to a black screen adb pull /tmp/recovery.log and send it my way
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
I'll give it a go in a bit. I tried to compile cwm already and am just getting a black screen with mine.

Sent from my One M8

Doesn't seem to be mounting /sdcard
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
I will fix fstab and upload a new one
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
I tried to add the source code for the tablet into cm and build a recovery that way. Not quite sure how to swap between prebuilt/source built, just starting to dig into this. The most I've done before this was syncing and cherry picking from gerrit.

Your cwm is booting just not mounting /sdcard. Also the screen is fliped upside down but that is very minor right now.

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Okay cool I'll test it once you do.
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
The flipped screen is a known issue on the tegra note 7 as well not sure about flipping it I'll dig into it. Here's the new img. I'm not sure on the partitions though quite yet I think I got it right this time
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
/sdcard is mounting now. It looks good but I'll play around with it for a few minutes.
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
Now in about 25 mins I'll upload a new one with BOARD_HAS_FLIPPED_SCREEN it rotates screen 180 degrees code is from twrp. I will upload my code when you confirm it is good to go and you can maintain it. :)

Now the even confusing part is the volume move up and down correct when it's upside down? Then they need swapped out
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Just made a backup, wiped, and restored. All worked and I also flashed supersu just to make sure and it worked. So it appears everything major is working. :good:

If you you could give me a quick idea of what you did to get it to compile it would be helpful and I would apreciate it. Trying to learn a bit more about this stuff so I'd like to have an idea of how to make it work. I looked around on instructions for compiling for a new device, but it didn't end up helping a ton. Thank you! :D

the vol keys aren't flipped with the screen so just flipping the image will fix it
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
Here's the recovery I edited https://github.com/C457/android_bootable_recovery I tried to move graphics.c to device tree and it had an error didn't feel like solving it.

Here's the device tree https://github.com/C457/android_device_nvidia_wx_na_wf

I have not attempted to build twrp at all so if you want to attempt to go ahead I prepared it for that I also doubt the uploaded one touch screen will work I just fixed my typo feel free to compile my laptop is slow
[Shield Tablet General] NapalmDawn:
Not exactly sure what you are trying to say since most of the post doesn't make sense but here's your comparisons with the 10.5

http://www.anandtech.com/show/8296/the-nvidia-shield-tablet-review/4
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Thanks a ton for your help! I'll start trying to get this to build today :good:
[Shield Tablet General] SilverSix311:
Ok Im not sure if i am doing this correctly.

I am trying to flash the recovery but not successfull atm... I copied the recovery.img to /sdcard/recovery.img. Booted into "fastboot reboot bootloader". Tried to run "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img" its giving me this error:

target reported max download size of 570425344 bytes
error: cannot load 'recovery.img': No error

Not sure what im doing wrong...
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
So you don't have it on your PC with fastboot? Needs to be in the same directory your running fastboot from
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Could try using flashify or something. I would strongly recommend setting up adb/fastboot on a computer though.

Nevermind misread that
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
Yes same directory flashify is great too as mentioned.
[Shield Tablet General] SilverSix311:
Ah ok well i got to open and stuff. How do you physically flash it to my device to permanently have CWM on it. I boot with the command you sent me, and afterwards it had some text asking me to do stuff but it was cut of by the screen and i couldnt read it all so i got kinda nervous. After selecting the options i did i used adb reboot recovery and it still looks like the stock recovery not CWM.
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

I was unaware of that issue. I'm waiting on the LTE version just thought I would get a head start.
[Shield Tablet General] Gytole:
confirmed on my shield tablet

So i useed rashr to flash the cwm and it went perfect. So here is my question... Is somebody able to like backup a completely stock shield tablet rom, talking about pull the tablet out of the box, turn it on, root it, install rashr, install cwm, boot into cwm, factory reset it, then backup and upload that backup online and will it boot on my shield tablet? Reason why i am asking is because my software borked on my tablet after a week, my wifo died and i thought it was the wifi chip but found a build of basically stock but built from nvidia source so it at least got me running but there os nothing nvidia about it. So im wondering if a stock backup from one of you guys would boot on my shield? Id love to at least try...
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Looks like it is slightly shifted right after doing the 180 flip. It was probably asking about restoring root before rebooting.

Sent from my One M8
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Yes a stock cwm backup would be great since there is no image yet

Sent from my One M8
[Shield Tablet General] Gytole:
Nvidia not a Nexus 8

Yeah if i wanted a Nexus I would have just kept my nexus. I dont mind stock for that. But I actually enjoyed the stylus art app and everything that was stock it just felt good. Someone should back up stock like I said and upload it so we can try it.
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
Before I flipped it did it scale correctly?
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Yes

Sent from my One M8
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
How did stock recovery layout? I'm thinking now I build kernel from source it can use the frame buffer header from kernel and layout as stock does
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Everything was good other than it being flipped 180

Oh, in stock I'm not sure. I never popped into stock recovery since it really wouldn't do much for me i can flash it and see.

My recovery built from nvidia's source was flipped 180 just like the your recovery before. the stock image from nvidia isn't up so I can't see if there is a difference , but I don't know why there would be.
[Shield Tablet General] cam30era:
The work that you are doing is important enough that you should consider opening a thread for this in the Android Development section. Thanks, a lot, for your work!
[Shield Tablet General] ballfire:
can anyone comment on whether teamviewer works properly on the shield tablet ?
[Shield Tablet General] javlon:
recovery mode

I want to have CWM for Shield Tablet on my device. I have rooted it using towelroot and installed supersu. Now I am going to install flashify and install recovery from the message above. I wonder how I can get into recovery menu after this? Which buttons: power/volume- or power/volume+? Thanks in advance!
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
There are a ton of ways. Adb reboot recovery, use an app like ROM toolbox, boot into the bootloader (vol + and power) then select recovery, or you can add an advanced reboot menu using an xposed module.

Sent from my One M8
[Shield Tablet General] javlon:
Got an answer from Nvidia:

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Ok, I have installed CWR using image above. After reboot I got into CWR menu and created backup copy. Againg rebooted. Now, what buttons I need to use to get to CWR menu again? And where backup copy is stored? Sorry for noob questions and thanks in advance
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
nvm
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Are you asking how to get back into recovery? The same way you did the first time.
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
I see there is now a thread about recovery and so forth, would probably help this thread if discussions about that stuff moved to the other thread I think?

My Shield Controller has finally shipped, so I will soon be able to see if it will work with other Android's and PCs on a wired connection, since nobody seems to have actually checked that just yet (unless someone has and I missed it amidst all the discussion of recoveries and such like).
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
Supposedly only WiFi direct from what I've seen

Sent from my One M8
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
No, Nvidia themselves mention wired use - check the specs listing on their own product page. Surprised I'm the only person I'm aware of to have noticed that.
[Shield Tablet General] Keithn:
I looked, and you are correct. I just thought I saw that it was only wireless and I see that's not true.
[Shield Tablet General] Unjustified Dev:
That's if PC supports the drivers for it. I was reading in the nvidia tablet forums someone asked about and those windows driver weren't available yet.
[Shield Tablet General] NZtechfreak:
What about USB OTG and other Androids though?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] mumbai52:
So I flashed cm11 on my note 3, everything works fine but I notice that wear as before on tw my phone would switch to hspa when the lte signal was low, cm11 doesn't and instead it stays at 1 bar of lte at my house where the coverage isn't good I'm worried that this may kill my battery life. Can anyone shine some light on why stock touchwiz switches to hspa when lte isn't good and cm11 doesnt?