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[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Try completely reinstalling the ROM.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] rodrengo:
ok, i can't find the link, when have released?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] DoublP:
Has anybody tried an app called "ram manager pro" in order to make lollipop more multitask friendly?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] tim_h:
Hi everybody,

I just read that there is a release 6.0-r1 of Android-x86 available from https://osdn.jp/projects/android-x86/downloads/65890/android-x86_64-6.0-r1.iso/ - is this something a custom ROM for the me176cx could be based on?

Cheers,

Tim
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
A modified Android-x86 was one of the first ideas we had, but IIRC it's too different to be compatible with the current kernel.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
Crazy uptime, and a question.

Hey all,

Been a long time since I checked in here, hope everyone is doing well!

I had a question about uptime. In the past, with heavy use, I would have times when a reboot resulted in a system that stayed up for several days, even with lots of battery-draining, heat-producing use (Epic, Go!, Seasons, Bad Piggies, Angry Birds 2...). Alternately, sometimes a reboot would bring the system back up and I'd get a hard freeze again within minutes. In summary, it seemed like each reboot stabilized the system in a different way (or didn't).

The reason this is especially strange is that right now my tablet has been up for 67 days. Not a typo. In that 67 days the tablet traveled with me to a lodge in the Wisconsin northwoods (where Wi-Fi was extremely spotty so I only used it for occasional email checks), to work with me every day (as usual), and to get my Bad Piggies loot crates every day. Granted, I have pared down use a TON, as Rovio in that time also made Angry Birds 2 all but unplayable, completely broke Angry Birds Go!, and I have been playing Epic on my iPhone instead because it performs better.

But I've still been doing the daily Bad Piggies challenges, and I was able to knock out the latest episode of Angry Birds Seasons -- no crashes. Sixty-seven days of uptime. I think there was a decent amount of playing SkyForce, too.

Finally, to my question: why do reboots result in radically different stability levels on the freshly-booted system? I don't do anything different with the reboots, no cache removal or anything like that. Yet sometimes the tablet stays up only for a couple hours if light use, lasts a couple days on moderate/heavy use, or, now, lasts 67 days with light use. Why can't it always stay up like this? What is going on in the innards such that once in a great while you have a "magical" run of uptime?

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
67 days? Wow.

And that's without my kernel mods? That's impressive; I'd expect the thing to become memory leak central before that time. (if you haven't seen my kernel mods, scroll back a page or two- it really helps the tablet, bringing thermals and battery life back to KitKat levels. It essentially reverts ASUS's horrible excuse for planned obsolescence)

As for the reboot question... I can only think of ZenUI as the culprit. There have been some times where the tablet crashes not one minute after a reboot due to memory leaks (somehow) and other times it's rock solid. No other ROM or device I have ever used has had that problem.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
Hey jerbear!

Nope, no mods of any kind. I am running Lollipop, whatever last one ASUS released that I manually flashed onto the beast. I am rooted, but that is about it. I do run the "Boost" utility that is built in now, pretty much regularly, but I did that before as well. So, nothing new other than slightly lighter use. But this is ten times longer than it has ever been up -- I am not sure I ever even made it a week before...

I have no problem blaming ZenUI for the issue. A leaky interface layer coupled with somewhat stingy RAM in the first place equals randomness? I can buy that. I'm like you, I mainly only use the tablet for things where the slightly larger screen makes for more pleasurable activity. Also use media consumption when I get on any exercise equipment, but it has been a long time since I got my fat butt working out.

Thanks,

sutekh137

PS. I will try to post again when it finally crashes, and that way we can know how long it stayed up without me checking the uptime every day... *smile*
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
Still up, so I am at 75 days now... And that is with knocking out a whole new stage of Angry Birds Seasons, enough work for the tablet that it went down to 45% battery even while I had it plugged into a USB port (2.0, but still -- man this thing hogs power!).

Anyway, just thought I'd give an update! Looks like this thread is pretty much dead, otherwise? No ability to get a custom ROM going, and too many other nice offerings out there. Perhaps we should turn this solely into a thread about what our next tablet is going to be. *smile* What are peoples thoughts about the rumored new Nexus 7 (Google-branded, Huawei-built) coming out before the end of the year? A lot of people bash the 7-inch form factor, but I still quite like it. iPad is too big/expensive, and I'm still sporting an iPhone 5s as far as a mobile goes (i.e. the screen is appreciably smaller than my tablet). The ol' ME176CX still works great for the remaining Angry Birds games I play as well as Sky Force, and I definitely like Android...

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
New Nexus 7?

SIGN ME UP!

Anyways, yeah that's pretty much the deal. [MENTION=4821597]social-design-concepts[/MENTION] hasn't looked at Android N source last I checked, he's still trying to get a kernel booting.

I think the debloated, "lightweight" (quotes because ZenUI I'd anything but) ZenUI with my kernel mods are the best this tablet is going to be seeing in the near future.

It's had a good run, that's for sure, and I definitely learned a lot from it. But if a new Nexus 7 is around the corner, and if money permits, then I've found my new tablet.

7 inch is a good tablet size in my opinion as well. It's large enough to be considered a step up from my 5X and it's just enough for tablet-optimized layouts to work properly, while still being small enough to be pocketable and convenient to carry around.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
And thank you for all your work on making this device the best it could be! I learned a lot as well just through forum osmosis. *smile*

We should find out more on October 4th, if there is anything to find out about a new tablet from Google. Hope it is not too expensive, if there is something coming out...

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
tried porting twrp 2.8 to this device from ares8, it worked using stock kernel but sinc ewe already have this twrp, i tried porting the 3.0.2 version, it only boots if kernel isnt changed, but if its not changed, touchscreen doesnt work.. ive added lib folder, checked mltiple times the ramdisk and i cannot get it to work...
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
i know this is old but i ported twrp 2.8 just for testing, replaced kernel and booted, but when i try to port 3.0.2 it doesnt boot with stock kernel, but the recovery without any modifications it boots but touchscreen doesnt work ive tried replacing modules but doesnt work.... u have any idea?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Mis012:
I don't know how to resolve the problem, but you should try to connect with adb and type 'cat /dev/input/event3' or something like that (not sure if it's event3 and maybe the path is not like that, you can look around with ls) and than touch the screen. It should display something each time you make a touch. That means it works alright, and the problem is not in the kernel. You can also try to find out if it's not stuck (not sure how to do that).

btw. I've now got ubuntu in internal memory, and when I tried to compile the battery driver, I found out it has some android dependencies. Don't you know of anybody who enjoys rewriting android device drivers for vanilla linux? There is also a windows version if you want to test that one, it is called ug31xx.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
unfortunatelly i dont know anyone that knows that, and the way recovery behaves is a driver issue, since it only boots without any modifications but touchscreen does not work because its mostlikelly using the drivers from the kernel and not the ones in /lib/modules, so ill look for the .rc files and see if i can changed that somehow
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
[MENTION=6427704]Ruben Craveiro[/MENTION] [MENTION=5479482]jerbear294[/MENTION] [MENTION=6013061]Mis012[/MENTION] I just got TWRP 3.0.2-0 working on My Lenovo (stock kernel) should be able to use the same patching process used to generate the current twrp, theirs a bug when it displays the initial curtain but then comes up if you guys want to try i can send you something soon to test.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
That would be great! :)
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
I'll get it uploaded in the morning
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Mis012:
I don't think the touchscreen driver is built as a module :/ You can try to use ubuntu kernel, which has the touchscreen driver as a module. I can upload it here if you cannot get it elsewhere.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
yes pelase, that would be great, thanks
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
its worth a try, how soon can you give it?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Mis012:
Ok, here it is. Sorry for being late :)

http://www.mediafire.com/file/0azhkqrdgonn8dy/ubuntu-kernel+modules.tar.gz

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Yes I'd like to try it.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
Just woke up off to get my morning coffee then i'll get it packed and uploaded, I think i figured out the issue with the splash screen so i might play with that for a minute first
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
have you looked into the issue?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
No for some reason it doesn't draw the graphics resources for the splash screen everything else seems to work, also forgot to patch adb sideload and forgot i need to remove the bootloader installer from the installation script.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
hmn, ok, i just want to test if touchscreen works, im also making a stock based rom, im changing everything, for now its faster than the other debloated rom, im now going to change position of settings and theme to be more aosp like, including system ui, i also wanted to add double tap to wake but for that i need to build kernel from source right?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
If touch is working on the current twrp then it should work on 3.0.2-0 the issue will be if the same fix for the display works, i suspect it will. double tap to wake will require you to build a new kernel and patch the touchscreen driver to support it, getting started on building a kernel from source is a good idea as you'll need to compile a kernel to move past android-5.1 .
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
unfortunately i can only start building from source when my computer arrives from switzerland...
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Non-issue, my computer is more than capable of building a kernel from source, so I can build and PM it for you if necessary, Ruben
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
[MENTION=6427704]Ruben Craveiro[/MENTION] [MENTION=5479482]jerbear294[/MENTION] [MENTION=6013061]Mis012[/MENTION] sorry for the delay just PM you all let me know.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
didnt work its not being able to unpack stom recovery
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
I'll take a look on lunch, was this trough installed twrp or tethered twrp?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
twrp, should it had been on temp twrp? and have stock recovery or the twrp recovery installed?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
I've not tested it through installed twrp only tethered but that shouldn't make a difference, you do need to install or restore the stock factory recovery first.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
No need to reinstall factory recovery, flashed the zip using the temp recovery it workes, im runnning twrp 3.0.2-0 touchscreen works and design is so much better, thanks. also it does not work if the perm twrp recovery is used to install the zip
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
Feel free to share the recovery.img if you like i would prefer to not share the modifier.zip directly until it's cleaned up more.

Now i just need to fix the issues with it using DRM for graphics
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
TWRP 3.0.2: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cbs79xkaefuq0sy/recovery.img?dl=0
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
I will add this to my bootloader unlock thread when I get home.

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Seconding what Ruben said. This will not install via permanent twrp but installs fine on temp twrp.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Nexive:
Successfully flashed the 3.0.2-0 recovery using temp twrp!

It looks much better now, thanks!
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
http://xdaforums.com/memo-pad-7/general/asus-me176c-cx-unlock-bootloader-t3315603 updated with TWRP 3.0.2 image.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
Looks like they didn't announce any new tablet, at least not that I have heard about...

BUT, you might be interested to learn how well Android is working on a Chromebook! My ASUS Flip is apparently able to get in on the Android beta, so I updated it this last weekend and turned Android Apps (Play Store) on. Works quite well!

I installed Amazon Music, Kindle, Netflix, Angry Birds Epic, Bad Piggies, and Sky Force Reloaded -- all work fine. Also installed Terminal Emulator and it works. I do NOT have root access, though, so I am not sure how I could, for example, move game backups from my tablet to the Chromebook. I think there is work being done on getting adb working on it and then perhaps even root access to the Android portion.

Anyway, I thought I would let you know, since it is pretty intriguing. I had tried Arc Welder previously to try to run Android apps, but very few apps worked. Now it appears that the dream is reality. An ASUS Flip with 4GB of RAM can be had for under $300 (I somehow got it for $269 back when I ordered it, but now it is just over $300) at times, and it is a pretty nice piece of hardware. Not bad to have a 10-inch Chromebook AND Android tablet (it is running 6.0.1, whatever food that is...). I was able to benchmark it on Antutu where it got 54,596 overall. (Didn't the Memo get around 35,000 at best?)

Just wanted weight in on all that. And my tablet is still up, by the way, so that's 87 days now. :eek:

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
The fact that it's an ASUS product makes me wary, but I may actually need a laptop soon since I'm nearing the end of my senior year of high school. I'll look in to it.

Although, if I were to get a Chromebook I would probably have Arch Linux up and running on it anyways, so I don't know how much help that would be :P
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
But I need you to get all involved so that the gurus figure out adb and rooting sooner than later! *smile*

The good news there is that there really isn't any such thing as "bloatware" on a Chromebook, at least not that I can see... It is true that of the 16GB on-board, only 10.2 is available, but I am not sure if that even varies by manufacturer. The hardware is really pretty decent, and I have never had anything go awry in a ZenUI sort of way (I did have a bout of wireless having a hard time coming back after sleep, but that seems better now, so I think an update might have helped).

I did have Linux installed on it (via crouton), but I got rid of that now that I can run Android apps. I figure it is better to use up 3 GB on apps rather than a Linux installation that I rarely used...

Let's just say I hadn't budged my Chromebook in a couple months, now I will probably use it more regularly. I'd REALLY use it more if I could transfer game backups to it, as I would probably leave my tablet at home in that case -- the Chromebook is superior in just about every way: size, keyboard, battery life (WAY better battery life), etc.

If you truly need a laptop, though, then you'll find a Chromebook a bit anemic in terms of space, etc.

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Eh, I'd only use the thing for storing small files and taking notes so space isn't an issue.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
And as far as disk space goes, an ASUS Flip does take a microSD card -- you can get 64GB of that for under 20 bucks these days (maybe even under $10).

But I'd imagine you'd be storing most documents on Google Drive anyway. It will definitely work for that, assuming you are always some place with decent Wi-Fi.

I just wanted to accentuate the battery life on the Flip because it is such a departure from the ME176CX -- it is really pretty good. I was doing all sorts of stuff with it yesterday, probably about 6 hours of fairly heavy use as I was installing apps, powerwashing it, turning off developer mode and turning it back on (I was trying to figure out what I really needed and what I didn't really care about). After 5-6 hours it was only down to 52% on the battery. If I play Angry Birds for a couple hours on the tablet, even if it is on a USB3 power cord, it gets below 50%. It is annoying that the power adapter for the Flip is some proprietary jack instead of normal USB, though you can get an extra charger for around 25 bucks, which isn't THAT bad.

I am going to install Microsoft Office (Android) on the Flip today and see how that feels. It will be nice to see how much power the device has as more of an offline tool. I do wish it had more than 16GB on-board storage, as now with the ability to install Android apps that is going to go bye-bye pretty quickly. Hopefully this new capability forces Chromebook makers to amp up the storage a bit (no excuse for ANY device to have under 64GB these days, really -- so irritating). The 4GB of RAM makes everything run pretty smoothly.

Good luck with making a decision on a next device in the laptop form factor. At least you have a lost to choose from! And if you go with an Android-enabled Chromebook you can always install a few games for when you need to take a break... :cool:

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Heh, assuming it's an Intel Chromebook I'd at the very least have Crossover preview and, thus, full blown Steam. I'm sure it can handle my lighter games. As long as Binding of Isaac works I'm happy :p
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
CrossOver looks sweet, but is a no-go on the Flip (which uses a Rockchip processor...) Is a Celeron good enough to run CrossOver? Acer has some fairly cheap Celeron units...

Word and Excel run very nicely and allow local storage (though cannot see my external SD card for some reason).

I am off to see if there has been any progress on adb and rooting since I last checked a couple months ago... I want to be able to have full control over the Android portion!

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
The MeMO Pad can run Crossover so a Celeron can probably handle it too
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
That's a good point!

Well, adb works fine on the Chromebook. Turns out the Android portion of ChromeOS is cordoned off via a subnet, so it has its own IP address: 192.168.254.2 (details of how things are segmented/shared can be found here:

http://events.linuxfoundation.org/sites/events/files/slides/ContainersPresoLCE.pdf

[EDIT: One needs to turn on developer mode in the Android subsystem before doing all this via the standard way -- find the build number in the Android settings and tap the heck out of it until you are proclaimed a developer...]

So, you can only adb into the Android portion from the housing Chromebook itself...which is fine because adb is built-in once the Chromebook updates with all this Android business (fastboot is apparently in the /usr/bin directory as well). Just use the command:

adb connect 192.168.254.2

That establishes the connection. Using adb commands like "push" and "pull" do not work if you try to access anything that usually requires root -- you can only access stuff in the sdcard folder(s). But I must have missed a meeting, because I could have sworn that the adb "backup" and "restore" commands ALSO needed root -- they do not.

I was able to create a Bad Piggies backup file from my tablet and "adb restore" it into the Android instance of my Chromebook -- it worked! There does appear to be a problem with "adb backup", though. Issuing the adb backup command displays the standard, "Now unlock your device and confirm the backup operation," but no screen appears to do so. In contrast, "adb restore" DOES show a confirmation screen that looks just like the one on any Android device. Doing an "adb backup -all" just sits there and doesn't return to the prompt. After killing it there was a zero-byte backup.ab file in the current working directory.

EDIT: Got backup working... Turns out the -noapk flag was throwing it off (hooray for adb logcat!). Since -noapk is the default anyway, backups work fine without the flag (thought a password is required to encrypt the backup). Additionally, I found out some versions of adb (and/or the shell parsing the command line) don't work right unless you escape the spaces between options in the "adb backup" call (very, very weird). That illuminating thread can be found here.

So, adb-based backups and restores look like they COULD work, but the backup side might still be buggy. Overall, though, this is pretty cool...

I am not sure what to do with fastboot so I didn't mess with it much. I tried "fastboot -l devices" but it came back with nothing, even though "adb devices" does display the IP address of the Android subsystem.

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Droopy100:
Jerbear's EX Kernel Manager Tweaks

All,

First of all I would like to thank all involved in this thread. I have 3 of these tablets for my kids and the battery drain issue during sleep makes this tablet practically unusable. Is anyone using Jerbear's EX Kernel Manger tweaks? If so, how are they working for you?

I have the latest ASUS OTA stock lollipop firmware on all three tablets and I was wondering if someone would be kind enough to point me to the correct rooting method. I have been through all 470 pages of this forum over the last few months and I'm confused because I'm a noob. I would like to try something to make these tablets usable as I have quite an investment(at least to me) in them. Thanks in advance.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] daspex:
Hi,

many people rolled the device back to kitkat at this time for the reason of battery draining and crashes and so on.i personaly didn't send it to asus to flash the lollipop because allmost every one who has it on the device is not satisfied with it.i own one of the devices which can't be upgraded to ll for unknown reason and today i'm happy about that.i have normal battery consumption no crashes,reboots or something like that and everything works fine.

so if you don't care about the os version i would roll it back if i wehre you.the battery drain of my device in 8 hours sleeptime is around 4-5 percent and by intensive web using i reach the 15% mark after about 4 hours and without web by watching videos and playing games i can use it mostly about 6hours depending on the kind of the game.

so if you don't have to use ll for some reason just flash kk and be happy again.(but that's only my own opinion.)

or try the tweaks contributed by jerbear and see if that works for your devices.

best regards
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Use the link below to get a temporary TWRP session on the device. Root by going in to this session and flashing SuperSU.

http://xdaforums.com/android/development/intel-android-devices-root-temp-cwm-t2975096/page107

Additionally, check my signature for a thread on unlocking the bootloader and installing TWRP permanently. You'll also need the bootloader unlocked to install CyanogenMod 12.1 (which I might as well say now that I'm working on with social-design-concepts and Olivier) once it is released.

As for my ElementalX tweaks, it isn't ideal battery life but it is a massive improvement.