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[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] edlee:
That would make sense, but you dont get mad when they discount a phone a year after you buy it, it kind of makes sense that when value of phone diminishes the price for s-off hack would go down as well.

So hopefully in 6 months they could drop the price
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sirio87s:
FOR ALL: i've paid for s-off method by sunshine. please, don't break anymore the balls!!!! thanks :good:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Riff76:
The 25 bucks was worth it when my phone had an issue with the radio and my carrier said I needed to do an exchange for a new m8. I'm sure they checked for any tampering on the phone when I took it to the repair center. 25 bucks vs buying a new phone off contract, sunshine all day
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fred 12321:
sunshine

Used the sunshine for my m8 and it worked a treat.

I tried to S off with fire water and it did not work due to i think the latest update from HTC.

I would highly recomend sunshine. :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dany xe:
the real problem is when u r in a country that doesn't support paypal, neither google wallet, and all ur credit cards get declined, wtf should i do to get my phone s-off?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ovidium_gio:
it works

I bought the app, been reading for some time XDA forums and tutorials, ,downloaded more than one ROM or app, never returned anything except for some "thanks"... so I payed the 25$ withouth thinking too much about it and I'm glad I did. Now the phone is S-OFF, TAMPERED is gone, status is LOCKED, if I ever have to send the phone to warranty don't have to worry about those things.:good:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Drowzz:
Mail with Jcase and get to a solution :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nugzo:
The ops issue is he ONLY wants s-off to remove the red text, i'd expect complaining about the money if that's all you wanted. Op, s-off is way more than removing red text, just because that's all YOU want it for, doesn't mean its not worth it. You could go to the dodge dealer and say you want this HEMI 4x4 truck, that you just need something to get you to work and back. The truck is $50,000, but since you only want it for a ride to work, you should only pay $10,000 or hell, they should give it to you free since you only need it for so little... :rolleyes:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exocetdj:
Longest thread in the Q&A section i have seen in a while lol! :silly:

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Firewater Devs and Sunshine Devs are the same Devs mate :eek: 99% off one and 1% off the other lol

Anyway sunshine, provided u want to pay and can pay (barring paypal limitations etc) is the only guaranteed way at this time and is worth it :good:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jshamlet:
I would also point out that with Sunshine you don't have to contact HTC at all. No HTCDev, no tokens and giving up your phone's serial number and IMEI, etc. Also, Sunshine's bootloader unlock, unlike the token version, doesn't wipe anything. Your OS install and data remain intact.

I'm all about free tools as well, and I have to admit $25 was hard to swallow, but I consider it a small price to fully control my phone.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobramax:
m8 universal 4.4.3 twelroot and sunshine method not work !
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exocetdj:
what rom are u using?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobramax:
This stock rom === >
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exocetdj:
Ok

best ask in thieer support thread HERE
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobramax:
Hey thanks !!!!!!!!!!! twelroot work sunshine work yeeeeeeeaaahhhh !!! ^^ root explorer work yeeeeaaaaahhhhhjh yeahhhhh :D
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exocetdj:
U have root access but are u s off? Did u pay to use sunshine?

Boot into fastboot and it will tell u :D
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobramax:
Yes I know. now i open PayPal account :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gsmyth:
How did you get towel root to work? I'm on 4.4.3, stock unrooted, s-on and tried towel root but it just rebooted and didnt root.

EDIT: I see Sunshine basically doesnt need root prior to use as it does it itself. Was going to try towelroot just to remove bloat using a file explorer, but I dont think this would actually be possible anyway. Will probably just go for sunshine at some stage.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobramax:
Hey my m8 now s.off unlocked !!! :D now how root and install cwm recowery ? :/
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] exocetdj:
Awesome on S Off mate

read this for rooting and custom recovery
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ruud Westerhout:
Hi all,

Have changed my habits with this phone and not done root, unlock or anything. But the SD card lock and some bloatware are making me think to do Sunshine.

And I always like TWRP for the ability to backup.

Can I get these limited wishes with Sunshine alone or should I do more after that:

-root

-ability to change recovery

-ability to change SD card 'lock'

Regards,

Ruud

(M8 DualSim)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bdizzle1686:
With towelroot u just tap the welcome/intro msg in the app 3 times n it will open a string of numbers.. all u do is change the last number from 0 to 1 and then it works...

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Sunshine will temp-root your device, then it will unlock the boot loader and S-off your phone... After that u can flash custom recovery ETC. Way I did it was do sunshine, then use towelroot to temp-root, then use flashify to flash custom recovery, then use custom recovery to flash SuperSU ,ETC.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ruud Westerhout:
For correct understanding. I installed Sunshine, it worked fine (at least I think so :)

Why would I need temproot, is there no possibility to flash TWRP recovery directly, what's the difference.

I would like to have TWRP for Nandroid anyway, after that I understand I can use TWRP to install SuperSu.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cobramax:
Sometimes towelroot and sunshine working :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gsmyth:
I think I tried that and it rebooted so didn't work. If it does work, what can you do root wise? Can you install supersu app to then install a root browser? Or does it just enable you to run the necessary exploits for s off?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] potsykate:
I've decided to go ahead with the Sunhine S-off. I have failed with my Viperom 2.5 installed rom. What Rom works with Sunshine,does it have to be a complete stock rom? Any suggestions for the best and easiest one please.

Thanks
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr Hofs:
Maximus rom seems to work fine to get s-off
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] potsykate:
Thanks downloading now along with Android Rev HD,fingers crossed tit will work now.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ruud Westerhout:
Hi,

I installed the Sunshine APK without problems, it did its tests but rebooted once and I think this was expected behaviour. I started the apk once more and now the test were done normal. I was asked for payment as the apk said all would work.

After I paid I got the apk to do all what was needed and I got s-off. At least I presume, would not really know how to check it.

I was able after that to install the SUInstaller apk which came from the SunShine Website. This also worked as expected and rebooted the device. After that I could install the SuperSU from the market and got Root confirmed for f.e. RootExplorer and Titanium Backup.

I was also able to change the platform.xml file to finally get rid of that annoying sd card lock. I did not decide to install a custom recovery yet as TWRP website does not show my device HTC One (M8) DualSim (from Russia) to be compatibel.

So !!! Thumbs up !!! this works and is highly appreciated.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] potsykate:
I installed the apk fine the first time but it complained it did not like my Kernel I reflashed the kernel that came with the viperom and tried again. I had the message it cannot run on my device hence the trying with a different rom with a basic setup and clean install.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mattie_49:
I'm with Verizon will but still work with my device and I accidentally accepted the ota update as well.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jkolner:
Firewater didn't work for me, so i tried Sunshine and i worked, and got S-Off.

I don't mind pay 25 bucks cos it's the only way to get S-Off for some phones.

We are a little spoild here on XDA where we get Rom's for free and lots of other stuff.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficialLocdoGg:
The reason we get roms for free is because it's open source. This minor mods and tweeks are not enough to resell the android software. A lot of developers and junk will probably disagree but unless you have major changes that kinda makes it a new o.s. then it's pretty much illegal. I'm not saying that the devs shouldn't be able to charge for the roms becabecause I 100% believe that they deserve something for their hard work. They can sell their mods for sure and for that we are very spoiled.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jshamlet:
Technically, you can charge money for repackaging open-source and providing support. RedHat makes a lot of money with RHEL, both in licenses and in support contracts. However, the GPL requires you to give all of the source code to any GPL licensed programs (or software that is inextricably linked to an open-source program), which is why we have CentOS. This was also how DD-WRT and OpenWRT got their start, since Linksys had used an embedded Linux distribution in the WRT54G router.

In this case, ROM developers could very well charge for their ROMs, but they can't stop someone from taking the source, recompiling it, and offering it for free somewhere else. They could get around that by putting truly proprietary programs, artwork, or other non-GPL stuff in the ROM to prevent people from just making the ROM images freely downloadable, but any tweaks to the underlying OS would have to be given out to anyone who purchased a copy, so custom kernels, patches to OS services, etc. would be readily replicated.

However, I think the real reason has more to do with the fact that people love doing this stuff, and want positive feedback from the community. It also helps both the developers and the users, because they get a lot of people using their software under a huge variety of circumstances, and uncovering subtle issues that they might not run into in otherwise. Thus, by making it freely available to all, and letting anyone in the community who is qualified to help get involved, it makes things better for everybody, devs included.

However, I agree with your sentiment. These guys often do better work than the original manufacturers. I'm running a custom CM11 build (Sultan's kernel/CM11 ROM) on my old Skyrocket that massively outperforms both the original GB and JB ROMs that Samsung put out, and not by a little. It literally feels like it could be a mid-grade phone today. It was also a little humorous that my old Skyrocket was on KitKat 4.4.4 several MONTHS before the HTC One M8 got it. If my wife's phone hadn't flaked out and I started getting phone envy, that old warhorse could still be my daily driver. So yeah, these devs are amazing.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] robeyluv:
Went through hours of unlocking the bootload and flashing a recovery just to find out there is a $25 fee for me to finish the process... This is outrageously over priced.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elsworth1983:
Ha ha posts like this make me laugh if it's over priced don't pay it, go & find a alternative. Sure there is one some where. As for me am happy to support the developers who created sunshine as I can't write the code for it to work & I cant imagine how many devices they bricked & time spent to let us have s-off so $25 (£15) is a small price to pay.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jcase:
My behind. Porting roms and smali tweaks are like a walk in the park.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DroidHelp101:
Yea pretty much. Support your devs. Sunshine is well worth it!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daneland:
If you justify the price tag you will pay for it and get it.I dont justify it and dont buy it.If it was cheaper I might have thought to buy it.Everybody has right to put the price tag on their product that they think it is right. Like everybody has right to refuse to buy either .In the end it is not bread and water and you can live with an s-on HTC M8.Basic market dynamic if you desperately need it to hide your unlocked bootloader from the manufacturer,you can think it will be far cheaper and get it.

I think the point is simple I havent seen anybody asking money for jailbreaking of an iphone why for an M8.But again they(devs) justify it...
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Many of us spend money on pointless apps everyday..... 25 bucks for something that makes life so simple on my device seems like nothing.

But that's just me. ?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficialLocdoGg:
I find it funny I keep hearing about bricked devices. I just spoke to an HTC agent today and he gave me a fix to the issue my phone has been having (airplane mode randomly becoming enabled and not being able to be turned off) and a way to fix any brick hard or soft with an ruu. If the phone can power on at all even with only a black screen it will work... The solution is so easy that I can't believe none of you guys figured it out... Due to the recent type remarks I've gotten lately though, I'm not going to share it here... The bricked devices don't justify it for me anymore... I still agree they can charge if they want .. $25 for use on only one device is too much though .. I can understand $5 or $10 but anything over is ridiculous... Especially since I'm sure the amount of devices "bricked" are likely paid for by now... I'll continue working on my own s-off now that I can fix any bricked device thanks to a helpful HTC agent... Enjoy bricking your phones on 5.0.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] paul chambers:
Great don,t share it then. Nobody is forcing you to buy it are they. When you go to work do you get paid.for the work you do.

Or does your helpful HTC agent sort you out with food and pay bills. I can not stop laughing at this post it is pathetic. it has brightened my day up :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OfficialLocdoGg:
Mmhmm
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BerndM14:
Here's the thing about $25. It's a lot of money for sure, anyone that says it isn't is either a liar or very wealthy, BUT, and it's a big BUT. Look at it this way. $25 is in my local currency R250(Give or take a few) but if I were to take in my phone for repairs and they noticed that it's been tampered with they WILL charge me R750 (That's $75) before they even have me fill in the paper work!!!

Why would I pay $75 "penalty fee" for a tampered device if I could have spent $25 and make it look like it was never tampered with in the first place? I save $50 that's double than what I paid for then!!!

So at the very least it has its pro's and con's. It can save you a lot of money but it'll cost you a pretty penny as well. I also think $10 - $15 would have been a reasonable price but even at $25 you still save some money.

But I'm not surprised that a lot of people in here don't weigh it out that way... Penny wise pound foolish, as they say.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dany xe:
guys please stop arguing, the fee is the fee it won't change, it's the dev's work so it's dev's right to claim the price he wants, u dnt like the price just don't buy it! work yourself an s off tool, share it at the price u want and stop moaning for God's sake!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] beaups:
It seems you don't know what a brick is. I look forward to seeing your new s-off method...based on the content of your post history, I suspect we will be waiting a very long time.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] coal686:
Thread closed for cleaning.

EDIT: The way it works in real life is that people charge what they think is a fair price and other people decide individually if that is worth it to them after a cost/benefit analysis. The amount of work, expense, and expertise to create this must have been pretty high. How do I know? Because no one has been able to release an s-off method that works. If it was so easy, someone else would have done so by now so they could charge less and undercut the $25 price point that people think is too high.

I really like steak, but I can't justify buying it at my salary with my family of four expenses. My father in law buys and eats steak without a second thought. It's how life is so I work hard to hopefully someday eat steak whenever I want. Maybe I'll get there, maybe not.

Honestly, this thread has degenerated to the point that I'm closing it. I read the entire thing and just see constant back and forth about whether the cost is justified with no real benefit to anyone and no new points being made. The OP even (indirectly) requested it closed in this post.

Thanks for understanding,

coal686
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny75_:
From yesterday, my nexus 5 is overheating. I controlled CPU and Battery temp with "Trickster mod" app, WITHOUT APPS RUNNING battery temp is 35°C and CPU temp 47-49°C. I cannot understand what's happened??? Until yesterday it wasn't overheating. My n5 is rooted but stock, with Default Franco Kernel (the same configuration i had in past months).

Can u install this app and control your TEMPS, please?

Can u say me if i should get an RMA and change my n5?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vin4yak:
I live in India where the temperature's always between 30-35*c and hence, so is my CPU and battery temperature as well. During the night the average temp drops down to 25 when the device isn't being used.

Room temperature and weather around you play a major role in the average temperatures you get. Could be this case with you.

I would monitor the temperatures for a few days and if it doesn't settle down, I would flash back full stock and use the device for a while to see if it changes.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny75_:
1) Room temperature is about 19°C, so it isn't the problem.

2) I already made all stock this morning, but nothing changed, it was overheating the same

3) If rooted, can u install Trickster mod app and tell me your n5 temps, pls?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raptir:
My battery sits at 27-30C when idling. The room temperature is around 24C.

Are you noticing unusual battery drain as well? If so, my guess would be that something is keeping your phone awake and running in the background. Try BetterBatteryStats and see if there are any wakelocks stopping your phone from sleeping.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny75_:
And CPU Temp??
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GR0S:
Franco is pretty buggy, try faux.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raptir:
33C, but I wouldn't worry much about that. It's too transient to be of any use. If I open Chrome it spikes up to 45C+ very quickly, then settles back down.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vin4yak:
You don't need root/trickster to get cpu and battery temperatures. Anyways, I'm on a custom rom (AICP) with ElementalX.

I am currently using whatsapp and the CPU temp has gone to 42*c and the Battery temperature is showing 33*c.. Room temperature is about 26*c.

As stated above, could be a app which is preventing the device from sleeping. Install wakelock detector and see the culprit.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
lmao!

overheating? what world do you live in? you do realize that your body temp is 37C on average? so your battery temp of 35C is still cold! and a cpu temp of 47-49C is pretty cold as well. the safety shutdown for cpu temp is 105C, quite a bit away from 47-49C. your temps arent even halfway there! what you should stop doing is freaking out, and start enjoying your phone. speaking of, you own a quad core phone, when you use it, it will get warm. and if you use the cpu intensively, itll get flat out hot! and thats normal. our phones do not have anything to cool off their cpu, so it relies on the surrounding air to cool it off. unlike a desktop or laptop, which have active cooling systems.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny75_:
Sorry, but now with 2 simple apps, battery is 40°C and CPU 65°C. When i call, my ear is boiling!!!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny75_:
safety doesn't mean good. If laptop is a little overheating it doesn't matter, but smartphone overheating is unconfortable....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
boiling, i doubt it. boiling point of water is 100C. yes, 65C for a cpu temp is warm, but very normal. and feel, doesnt measure temp. all feel does is give you a difference between what you are touching and what you used to touch. feel is very inaccurate when it comes to a temp reading. boiling is an exaggeration by you. when dealing with real stuff, exaggeration is looked down upon. the cooler your skin is, the warmer your phone will "feel". but that says nothing about temperature. when talking temp, your phone will never be cooler than the surrounding air temo, unless physically cooled down. itll only be warmer, if screen is on, and even warmer when in use. and if plugged in and in use, expect to see temps up to the 70s-80s C.

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theres no such thing as a little overheated. its either overheating or not. just like a woman is pregnant or not, shes not a little pregnant. again, i know that you are refusing to believe it, and are looking for someone to confirm your beliefs, but you wont find that confirmation, bwcause your phone is normal. if you want a cooler device, sell your quad core phone and buy a lower cpu speed single core phone.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny75_:
Maybe 65°C is normal in a laptop, no in a smartphone. Before yesterday it wasn't warm, now yes. Why? Wasn't it normal before yesterday? I don't think.

Configuration is the same, apps are the same, all is the same. I think there is an Hardware problem. I wish see u phoning with a warm display on your ear.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
guy, quit fantasizing, THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH YOUR DEVICE!!!!

it was warm many times over, you just didnt pay attention to it, thats all. and dont tell me it was never warm, unless you live somewhere in space near absolute zero. IT IS NORMAL FOR THE PHONE TO GET WARM, AND EVEN HOT, WHEN YOU USE IT! why do you think no one has told you that your phone is not normal, that the heat is not normal? because that is not true. you can believe whatever you want to believe, i personally dont care. but in reality you do not exist it appears. lol! anyways, here is my phone, its much hotter than yours(99C cpu temp, -1 degree C from boiling water), and its one of the top n5 in these xda forums..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Johnny75_:
ok, your cpu is really hot. And your battery temp? Maybe battery is the problem. Don't u feel very unconfortable phoning when your smarphone is so hot?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=1811927]simms22[/MENTION] I feel where you are coming fom. I know these devices are supposed to get hot. However 99 C is a bit too high considering you don't appear to be doing anything with your phone in that screenshot. I would expect those temps if you were gaming or using G Maps and streaming Pandora at the same the or something.