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[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
You might also want to do a factory reset and then install one app at a time, seeing if it stays permanent. I wonder if the extreme power drain is somehow kicking the tablet into a factory reset (is that even possible), so all apps are gone the next day?

And even if you didn't install a single app, there is a lot to do with the stock build. What does your kiddo want to do with the tablet? Tablet supports browsing, e-reading, music, movies, Facebook, Google... all with the stock apps.

As zapz said, if you could provide more information on what apps you are trying to install, we can try to help more. From what you have said, it sounds like just got a lemon in terms of power consumption and perhaps some sort of goofy mounting issue? In a full charge, I can play the most intense drainer I have (Angry Birds Epic) for 2-3 hours before being out of juice. This machine is definitely not great at conserving power, but that seems to be a fairly staid theme for cheaper tablets... At least this one can charge from any USB port or USB adapter, unlike my previous Acer A100 (which drained even faster!).

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vayiayia:
RE: I'm Just A Girl

Thanks for the responses!

My 11 y/o mainly wants to play games (Minecraft, Angry Birds, Temple Run, Candy Crush) , YouTube, Netflix, etc.

We're so used to being able to load and do whatever we want on my Toshiba Excite Pros without any conflict, it's just frustrating to have these issues with the tablet. I'm hesitant to open the new replacement I received from Gamebox, feeling the tablet is simply a fussy and inferior product. I don't know if an 11 y/o will be able to keep up with all the fussy adjustments that have been suggested to keep this tablet working properly, such as having to manually turn off certain apps to prevent battery drain, or checking the wifi setting.

I'm just frustrated :(

I'm open to advice and opinions , though.

Thanks again!
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
I play all the Angry Birds games (including Stella, Epic, and Go!) plus Jetpack Joyride and Threes with no problem. Only Epic and Threes would disappear after a restart, and yes, that is annoying. But all the other games stayed no problem. If your games were disappearing then either you had a lemon or the apps weren't where you thought they were in the first place (Bad shortcuts? Launcher issues?).

YouTube is built in, and I also installed Netflix fine. Both remain persistent after restarting.

As far as fiddling with settings, I believe the only setting you need to set (in "Settings" is to have Wi-Fi on and let it search for wi-fi networks. When I go into settings and then to Wi-Fi, then click on the "more" menu (vertical row of three dots), I go to advanced wi-fi settings where the following is the case:

Network notification: checked

Keep wi-fi on during sleep: On

Scanning always available: checked

Wi-fi optimization: checked, and says "Minimize battery usage when wi-fi is on."

This is how it was set up out of the box, as far as I know (I don't remember making any changes, anyway). So, you might not even have to set it with this new tablet. If you do have to set it, you should only need to do it once -- it is not something you need to endlessly fiddle with, I wouldn't put up with that.

Like I said, under heavy-as-possible use, the battery will still drop like a rock in 2-3 hours. On Netflix, if I watch a half-hour show while working out, the drain is only 5-6%. I would imagine you could watch Netflix or YouTube for at least 4-5 hours, longer if you are hooked up to a USB cable. You can buy USB cables that fit ("micro-B") from Amazon for about 8 bucks a three-pack (search Amazon for "Cable Matters USB micro-B to see what I mean). Hook the tablet to any running USB hub, PC, or laptop and the trickle charge will slow down battery depletion even more. Some USB ports/hubs might even gain on it.

One more power-saving technique: turn down the brightness of the screen. I run mine at about 50% and that is fine for pretty much everything. It might seem dim at first, but that's just because it was so much brighter before. You get used to it and it is plenty brilliant.

I've seen a lot of posts, and folks have had problems (I have had some of my own, but those were almost all due to rooting and meddling with files I shouldn't have), but I have not seen anyone where all apps disappear for no reason every day. You either had a lemon or this is an education issue about learning where the apps and app shortcuts are...

Good luck,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] move_over:
Only time apps disappeared on me was when they installed to sd card, and that problem won't happen if you install the app without an sd card installed, I would think(if you don't want to mess around with the tablet too much).
[MeMO Pad 7 General] acavan:
[MENTION=5248213]sutekh137[/MENTION]

Check:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55302120

That's the solution I found. No more disappearing apps on reboot after doing what it says on that post, but, yes, it needs rooting.

Hope it helps, nevertheless.

Sent from my ASUS Memopad7 K013 (Me176c)
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
[MENTION=6020048]acavan[/MENTION]

Thanks, I did something similar (mentioned earlier on this thread): used 3c toolbox to move apps to internal, and then they stay.

If I update the app from the Play store, I have to remember to move them to internal again, otherwise they disappear on restart.

Seems pretty odd that ASUS nukes the /mount/asec folder the way they do. You'd think they'd have a firmware fix out for this by now, because I don't see how it can be by design. And Angry Birds Epic(one that disappears) is not exactly a little known game such that they can't have heard about it yet...

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] acavan:
Yes, it's really weird because asec is a legit folder, where many apps write to. The solution (moving the apps out of mnt/asec by whichever method one chooses) is not optimal, but it works.

In other respects, I find the tablet very smooth, fairly powerful, and I don't have a serious issue about battery draining. Although it's true that if I disable wifi the tablet doesn't enter deep sleep mode.

Another thing I found useful is using foldermount to move apps' data to sdcard, since there is no option to move the whole app in this tablet (or at least I didn't find it after some hours of search)

Good luck

Sent from my ASUS Memopad7 K013 (Me176c)
[MeMO Pad 7 General] salekojot:
I do on the other way.

Must be rooted tablet. Install total commander (my best choice).

Let me explain on app call com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro-2

This app had problem with disappearing after reboot. Look at picture

In right tab I open directory mnt/asec/ com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro-2

In left tab open directory data/app

From right tab copy file pkg.apk to left tab. Then rename file on com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro-2.apk.

Press and hold on file com.jrummy.liberty.toolboxpro-2.apk to change file permission to RWRR. See on screenshoot.

That is all!

After restart files remain in internal memory, in system directory.

I am sorry that I made picture in Serbian language, but you can see from pictures what you must do to resolve problem.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] dexter20082001:
Do you have a MicroSD card inserted? When I first got mine I put one in and installed apps. It caused problems because it installed some data to the MicroSD but not all of it. Afterwards the apps would be gone or have a missing\SD app icon. Removing the card and deleting all data the apps stored on the tablet followed by reinstalling the apps worked for me.

Sent from my Rooted Asus MeMo Pad 7 176CX
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vayiayia:
Rooted Asus MeMo Pad 7 176CX

Wait! How did you ROOT your Asus MeMo Pad 7 176CX?

Thanks!
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Narag:
Have a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55196454&postcount=136
[MeMO Pad 7 General] zapz:
Encountered another problem...I tried to update a game and I kept getting the error "Error: Couldn't install on USB Storage or SD Card" in Google Play. I removed the SD card and after that the game installed without any problems. I also updated other games/applications with the SD card inserted, but had no problems so far. I must mention one thing though : the game that I tried to update also created a folder on the SD card's Android/Data folder. Anyone else experienced this? Does the tablet want to write to the SD card, but it has access denied or something?

Edit: After searching a bit, I found this : https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=9593 ; So this might also be related to that asec folder problem.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
I can confirm that my SD card also has an Android folder with 147 folders but only 36 bytes in size. I have no idea what that folder is for nor do I know why it would get created.

Not sure how or if it relates to the asec issue...

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] dexter20082001:
The same way most people did, using ROOTzenfon. From what I have read, if it runs Asus Zenui then the app will root it.

Sent from my Rooted Asus MeMo Pad 7 176CX

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This seems to be an issue with android itself because of their change in writing to the card. For now all that can be done is unmount the card and install then remount it.

Sent from my Rooted Asus MeMo Pad 7 176CX
[MeMO Pad 7 General] lost.dark:
is anyone find the Solutions Of battery drain Problem?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] siksy:
I didn't so I carried mine to asus service (kim-tec serbia).And few moments ago I saw they ordered new motherboard & battery. Hope it'll help. .
[MeMO Pad 7 General] ICavalera:
Let Wi-Fi always on... Gets less drain.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] zapz:
I'm really curious to see if it will help or not. When I first noticed the battery drain problem, I search for solutions and after seeing that nothing helps (it was before I discovered that keeping Wi-Fi on helps), I took the tablet back to the shop and they gave me a new one, the one I currently have. And of course, it has the same problem. Personally, I think it's something OS related, since all or most of the devices have the same problem. It would be wierd for all the motherboards and all the batteries to be messed up for ALL the tablets.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] ICavalera:
When I don't use the tablet normally I turn off. But sometimes I forget and always have Wi-Fi on.

This night I've got 2% off battery drain. So... Just have always Wi-Fi on. For me is good.

Almost the time use to check emails, navigate on Web, and streaming. Getting 6 to 7 hours of screen.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] lost.dark:
Thanks but...

this night (10 hours) %15 of battery drain is it good or bad? :)
[MeMO Pad 7 General] HampTheToker:
I had to kingroot my mom's Lenovo Tab 2 A20 ?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] seamo123:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65244342&postcount=3726
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Opensystem:
Appreciate it, but the md5 doesn't match and installation fails. Even when I disable verification. How did everyone else get Xposed for. 36?. Same as 33?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] seamo123:
That's weird. Yes, it's the version used for .33
[MeMO Pad 7 General] idoetzchen:
OTA Updates doesn´t work

Hi Guys. I have now been dealt two OTA updates, where the installation failed. In Recovery Log is a fault:

failed to stat "/system/app/Gameloft/Gameloft.apk": No such file or directory

file "/system/app/Gameloft/Gameloft.apk" doesen´t have any of expected shal sums; checking cache

The last failures: "/system/app/Gameloft/Gameloft.apk" has unexpected contents.

E:Error in /cache/dlpkgfile

(Status 7)

How can i get OTA Updates to work on my tablet without Reset to factory defaults???' THX GUYS

Or other question: How can i get my Tab up to date with the latest Firmwareupdates
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
download .36 from asus support website and flash it via temp recovery method and then reboot

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can i have those 2 .img files? thats easy to install doesnt even require a computer.. just a terminal emulator with supersu rights ....
[MeMO Pad 7 General] idoetzchen:
I think i flashed this already. My Build Number is LRX21V.WW_K013-12.10.1.24-20150623 with follow method: The zip file on a SD-Card and then over a click on a "SystemPopup"

Can you short tell me how i can flash this over the temp cwm session? Im a Android beginner

I want to install only the OTA updates . A complete firmware flash- I think is unnecessary. Because i have my apps and settings on this tab, this all there lost, because i doesn´t have a working and great Backup method.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] dog121:
Try this one this is what I use
[MeMO Pad 7 General] dog121:
Sorry meant this one for x86 the other one was the one I use on my phone
[MeMO Pad 7 General] ardicli2000:
http://dlcdnet.asus.com/pub/ASUS/EeePAD/ME176C/UL-K013-WW-12.10.1.36-user.zip

Download this and put the file into root directory. System will prompt you with an update. Just install it whether you are rooted or not or whether you deleted system apps. It will update in any case.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Opensystem:
Yeah thank you that one's money I found it again last night. I appreciate it though thanks!
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
I haven't seen any images, dd works the same in terminal on phone as it does on computer.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
When I get home in a few hours I'll upload the ESP and TWRP images to AndroidFileHost.

[MENTION=4821597]social-design-concepts[/MENTION] would you be fine with me distributing the images as a Nandroid backup in conjunction with the image files?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] social-design-concepts:
You can distribute in any form you like, I just didn't want the original install.zip I sent you distributed at the moment.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
thanks ill be waiting here for them i just hopes its fast and also you guys said there was a uefi update on .36 ive updated at least 2 times and it didnt updated and now i have the weird black screen saying bios update for 1 second and then boots tablet normally its weird...
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
...aaaaaaand we have a release! :D

I'm releasing the ESP (insecure bootloader) and TWRP to the general public!

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=24415232478677564

MAKE A BACKUP OF ESP AND RECOVERY IN CASE ANYTHING GOES WRONG. YOU'VE BEEN WARNED.

These images aren't in a Nandroid or anything, you'll have to add them manually via dd.

INSTALLATION

If you're using ADB, then first run

adb shell

TWRP cannot properly back up the ESP, so we'll be backing up the partitions manually. To do so, run the following to get root permission and back up the original recovery and ESP.

su
dd if=/dev/block/by-name/ESP of=/path/to/unzipped/zip/stock_ESP.img
dd if=/dev/block/by-name/recovery of=/path/to/unzipped/zip/stock_recovery.img

Then, to install:

dd if=/path/to/unzipped/zip/ESP.img of=/dev/block/by-name/ESP
dd if=/path/to/unzipped/zip/recovery.img of=/dev/block/by-name/recovery

Finally, reboot the tablet to make sure it worked. The ASUS screen should be replaced with an Intel one.

Volume Down + Power will give you an option of either fastboot or recovery, instead of just booting to fastboot like the stock bootloader.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
I like the option of both, seems interesting, I have only seen one or the other not both.

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If you don't have a computer.

Rename recovery.emmc.win to recovery.img

Rename ESP.vfat.win to ESP.img

and then dd via terminal from your phone.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] csamolot:
Unfortunately I'm unable to use TWRP in temp recovery only CWM and it's not compatable
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
Yes that is the downside of providing nandroid backups, but you can rename and flash via dd, as I posted above.

Also fastboot should be able to flash them, if you have computer, Linux fastboot is 100% not sure about windows, probably at least 90% or better.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
didnt work for me... flashes esp and recovery and rebooted to asus logo again and it flickered and then went to bootloader and now its booting again to android... im doing manually now..
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
For dd to work you must know correct path for recovery and ESP. I don't have that tablet so can't give you correct path.

Did you use the path sdc posted?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Did you flash that backup, or the one that I made? You could've easily flashed your backup by mistake instead of the custom EFI/recovery.

Manual method will work, but can be risky if you don't type the partitions correctly.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
if i didnt had flashed it correctly it wouldve simply booted to stock recovery instead it just takes me back to bootloader ... and i know the partition table so ill do it manually
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
He would need a computer and be using twrp, to flash your nandroid backup, he posted early he had no computer.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
i didnt said ihad no computer and something hapend... i flashed with correct partition tbled and renamed the files u told me to rename and when i reboot it rebooted me to bios so im going to try to make fastboot osloader efilinux.efi and fastboot boot droidboot.img
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
I sent a pm to sdc, about esp size, you might want to wait. Get confirmation from others using twrp and nandroid backup, that the restore is correct, and working for them, before using dd, if not working via twrp unlikely will work for dd.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
i already made dd.. im stuck on the uefi i have access to fastboot but i need a new driver that i didnt needed before 'Intel Android AD' but i dont know where to get it and so the pc doesnt recognize the tablet ===== edit : fixed it it was adb and fastboot drivers missing i isntalled them and made fastboot flash osloader efilinux.efi and fastboot boot droidboot.img and got to twrp again and restored
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
That ESP image is only 4.5 MB, mine own is 67.1 MB, I wouldn't flash that esp on a bet, to each their own, perhaps sdc has some kind of method to super compress esp images.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] csamolot:
What would be the fastboot command for the ESP image? Would it be fastboot flash ESP name of image?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
Dont flash it, it will break your tablet and i dont think thats how u should flash them its either dd them or use twrp...

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maybe jerbear made a mistake when zipping the files.. that would say why it doesnt work i even tested twrp restore and dd... (dd them on this directory esp partition --> /dev/block/mmcblk0p3

recovery partition --> /dev/block/mmcblk0p5)
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Strange. I backed up that ESP directly from TWRP :S
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
I believe the ESP is wrong, I can't even mount it, the size to me is way to small, I suspect it's damaged if sdc or jerbear posts the size of ESP.img we will know for sure.

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Will you post the size of esp.img not the twrp one, but the original one you have?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Apparently TWRP doesn't do proper ESP backups :S

Manually pulled the partition via dd, came out 33 megs. Uploading manual images, they'll have to be flashed via dd
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
post correct dd paths for people as well.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
ill be waiting for them i hope its fast...
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0ByKdwmtWgoKBZFJWakRHQU54OXc/view?usp=docslist_api

Not sure about recovery tbh, but that's not the biggest of issues as it at least the recovery works fine via TWRP backup.

ESP's correct DD path is /dev/block/by-name/ESP
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
i dont know if you know but, do you know how to unpack stock kernel and change usb charging to allow otg and charge at same time and then repack? all using cygwig or android?

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recovery i think its working because i droidboot doesnt allow me to boot to recovery
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Precisely why I'm not worried about recovery.

ASUS has a very lenient default bootloader. Unlike a lot of devices I've seen, instead of refusing to boot if something's unsigned, it will just refuse to boot that specific partition only, kicking you to fastboot.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
This ESP.img is correct, I can mount it inside is EFI, boot, intel as it should be, this one should be safe to flash.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
TIL TWRP can't ESP backup.

Well then. Something must be wrong in TWRP's partition table. At least this tablet's pretty much brick proof thanks to DNX mode...
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
I only use Linux, I don't have this tablet, I suspect you would need kernel source and recompile kernel to do what you want.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
well i dd both of them and still didnt work... when i try to boot to recovery it reboots shows asus logo disapairs and shows boot asus logo again ans boots back to droidboot, im going to dd again but this time ill use this instead of by-name. (ESP partition --> /dev/block/mmcblk0p3

recovery partition --> /dev/block/mmcblk0p5)
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
fastboot?

I don't have this tablet, but on my tablet to flash ESP.img you have to erase ESP.img, or at least I do.

This post gives a list of fastboot commands I used on my tablet, please only use recovery and ESP, if your tablet doesn't require wiping ESP then don't.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=65312670
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
i can acess the fastboot starting #1#2#3 but still cant access recovery and in bootloader the status is locked and i dd esp and recovery by-name and mmc

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still doesnt show intel logo or boot to recovery or says that bootloader is unlocked
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
You need to unlock bootloader first before you can flash recovery.

Most likely you need to flash ESP.img reboot to bootloader then flash recovery.img.

Look at the fastboot commands I linked to.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
The default bootloader still boots into Android if the recovery is unsigned. I'm thinking your ESP is messed up.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
My bootloader is correct. Unlocked it allows flashing of any recovery or boot image locked it won't flash anything. This is 5.1 bootloader, my 5.0 bootloader flashing anything all the time as it's unlocked from factory.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
do u mean like dd the esp then reboot to bootloader by doing reboot bootloader command and go to twrp and flash recovery? any other way to do it without needing to use the pc (kinda late here and turning on pc again ...)

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thats actually the website ive been going to already lol
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
I was suggesting

fastboot flash ESP esp.img

Then on your bootloader select boot bootloader once rebooted to bootloader, you should now be in insecure bootloader not default bootloader, so now fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
oh i understood, good that i have fastboot installed in /system/bin...

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any way of doing that without computer? (its turned off), can i simply format and dd restore?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] vampirefo:
I thought you already tried dd and it failed, yes you can try dd.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Ruben Craveiro:
what command can i use in android terminal that will allow me to erase ESP?