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[Samsung Gear Live] thefunkygibbon:
Ok sorry to sound a percy pessimist but here are some little gripes so far.. I'm totally understanding that its still early days yet and software may well be improved over time and also I may well be being dim and not knowing where some settings are etc. If so then please by all means let me know! :)

* Cradle/dock VERY awkward to attach.

* Does nots seem to have the cool "bypass phone lockscreen if watch is attached" feature which was demo'd in I/O.

* Doesn't seem to be a way to open apps or do anything on the watch if you are not in a position to talk. (other than the list of "example" searches you can see if you don't talk to the watch quick enough.

* I don't seem to be getting vibration notifications

* doesn't seem to be a way of using your own photos for the photos watch face

* doesn't seem to be a way of editing the call reject text messages

* strap is very awkward to put on and for the heart rate monitor you need to have it on pretty tight which is tricky to do one handed with the kind of clasp it has.

* **the movement to wake the watch is a bit hit or miss. it doesnt seem to be just a matter of flicking the wrist or moving up to face.** (this is beginning to be a problem. it is pretty random if it wants to wake up from movement or not. cant work out if it dependant on which watchface or not). i reallllllllllly don't want to have to touch the watch to see notifications etc.

* to even entertain viewing it outside, you have to manually crank the brightness up to max else it is pretty much unreadable. and thats in the UK sunshine!!!

other than that, it seems to be a nice watch.
[Samsung Gear Live] big_b0sss:
i feel like i just wasted 180 quid :(
[Samsung Gear Live] Alix8821:
The lockscreeen unlock feature relies on Android L, not the watch.

The strap is replaceable. I have 2 Silicone ones from Amazon ready to go.

And this is Google Now on your wrist. Yes it's first generation and has plenty to improve upon. But it's essentially meant to be Google Now on your wrist.

Just be happy you got yours! Haha. I'm refreshing the UPS page like a mad man (had it delivered to work.... But I received the day off. Hahaha)

STILL way way better than that Tiezen BS Samsung tried out... Be positive!!
[Samsung Gear Live] Brendo:
(Keep in mind I have a gear 1 and love it)

Yep, cradle is annoying

Vibrate is very slight I hardly ever notice it

All apps need to support wear before they can be interacted with (contacts, emails, messages etc if using a non google product)

Strap clasp doesn't feel very secure

love how light it is

has google now integration which so far has been hit and miss 70/30

always on face is cool (except still emits light in dark rooms)
[Samsung Gear Live] thefunkygibbon:
yeah i had a feeling it might be a L feature. although its a bit annoying as i had the same feature with my Pebble using an app called Pebble Locker which basically bypassed the requirement for entering a pin etc if the watch was connected to the phone. So its defintely possible without L. hopefully someone will make a quick little app to do that

I will be ordering a metal braclet style strap sometime soon, like i had on my pebble. much more comfortable.
[Samsung Gear Live] thefunkygibbon:
yeah the vibrate is VERY slight. it took me a while to realize it was doing it. I hope they add an option to change the intensity of the vibration as I'm pretty sure it is capable of a more stronger vibe.
[Samsung Gear Live] Alix8821:
Agreed. App will be out soon. I already have 5 exclusive Wear apps ready & waiting. Hahha.

I wish they gave us the nicer strap from Gear 2. Not this BS from Gear Fit... Oh well.

This is a starter watch... Moto 360 & after will only get better & better. As will the software. LOVE that Google is keeping control.
[Samsung Gear Live] robber:
Coming from Gear Neo; initial observations:

1. Watch has more metal and feels more premium

2. Watch strap is larger, will accommodate larger wrists but the clasp is junk compared to the neos.

3. OS is a little overwhelming right now, which I actually think is good. After 30 minutes, I am still cant do much- Iam not concerned with "watch cant do" xxx yet.

4. I have had 2 OS updates in the first hr.

5. Gear Manager seems to be a little more straight forward than Wear Manager but it is too new to make a final call on that

6. Watch is fast! "Okay google, what is the capital of NY?" is recognized and answered immediately.

7. Interface is smooth as silk
[Samsung Gear Live] skitty:
I use skiplock to bypass the lock screen. Works with WiFi networks and Bluetooth devices
[Samsung Gear Live] Archon810:
You can start apps without voice by going to the Google voice prompt then swiping all the way down to Start...
[Samsung Gear Live] robber:
Feels to me like we are missing a launcher. Voice control is great, but there are times it just won't work and the method above is cumbersome.
[Samsung Gear Live] DarkManX4lf:
Any other negative points? I want to buy a gear live soon...but I rather hear the reviews first. I'm guessing the problems listed all here are going to be on the LG G watch and the Moto 360 since most of the complaints seem to be Android wear related.
[Samsung Gear Live] Mr Ian B:
Be careful w attaching or taking off charging cradle. Reports show breaking off or breaking piece off phone. Thought mine coming in today but, scheduled for tomorrow.

Ian B
[Samsung Gear Live] ElPajaro14:
Just a couple quick notes:

- I noticed that I can somewhat bypass the lockscreen. I'm currently on 4.4.4. (S4 - KangaKat) When I have the watch open the app on my phone or perform an action on the phone, I can simply press the home button (or side power button) and I do not have to swipe my pattern.

- Vibration notifications SHOULD be working. There were two system updates that were done when I first connected the watch. Perhaps that's the issue?

- I am able to see that I have a notification without turning on the watch. When I swipe it up, I get more details, which I can then swipe away, so that the next notification with show on the screen. I think this is just a matter of managing the notifications and making sure that you are top of them. Swiping them away & handling them as they come in.

- Yes, outside sucks. Today is pure sunlight, I was having trouble seeing it with a setting of 3. I was able to view it better when I put my hand over it. Not much different from trying to look at portions of my phone's screen in the outdoors with a similar brightness.

All in all, I'm pretty satisfied and I understand that this is first gen. I am hoping that through some proper feedback to google / developers, we start to see some software updates & applications developed that further the watch's capabilities. For now, though the notifications are great....although I wish I could not have it send work emails to the watch. The thing vibrates non-stop.
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
can't you blacklist apps? or do you use the same app for work and personal email?
[Samsung Gear Live] ElPajaro14:
I have not seen yet that you can blacklist apps. Since it uses native notifications, the only way I can see to prevent this would be to disable email notifications altogether :confused: Not something I want to do. I will either just have to have the notification sit there and disappear as I check my emails / dismiss the notification. Hopefully, there are some changes in the future on this.
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
i thought i read somewhere you could blacklist apps though the wear manager app

here you go #7 on that list

http://www.androidcentral.com/first...e-today-here-are-10-more-things-you-need-know
[Samsung Gear Live] jay slasher:
I'm the wear manager you can blacklist apps.
[Samsung Gear Live] ElPajaro14:
You are correct. I missed that completely. I have muted my email application, let's hope tomorrow is a little more quiet. Thanks for pointing that out!
[Samsung Gear Live] JulyDerek:
Will not work on Bluetooth LE devices.
[Samsung Gear Live] thefunkygibbon:
clunky as hell. also it doesnt allow you do do a lot of things, only run the apps which are installed which may well require voice too.

imagine being in a meeting and you wanted to take a sneaky look at the weather or traffic for journey home. neither of which you can do without speaking to the watch.
[Samsung Gear Live] thefunkygibbon:
hi, yes, i pretty much agree with all of those points. it did take a while to get set up.

the picture backgrounds are pretty nice although for some reason a lot seem to be quite low res images (despite them not being low res on phone)
[Samsung Gear Live] Gr8Danes:
Although it isn't something that should have to be repaired, at least it looks as though the broken charger tabs look like an easy fix providing the back cover is available.

https://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Samsung+Gear+Live+Teardown/27038
[Samsung Gear Live] Maturola:
I checked the weather just now without speaking to it, I also did this morning. Running 1Weather
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
if those cards populate on your google now screen, they should (in theory) push to the watch as well. i get mine today so i don't know for sure if that's how it works, but that's how i understood it...
[Samsung Gear Live] Gr8Danes:
Just got mine and is going through the updates. I do see how that tab can break the back of the watch with the microphone hole so close to the clip location. I'm wondering if rounding the edges on that side of the docking clip would reduce the risk of it breaking. It does clip on quite tight.
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
so i just got mine and holy crap is the charging cradle issue blown out of proportion. after watching some of the unboxing and review videos on youtube i can def see it as being a majority of user error issues with the king kong like mashing on of the cradle some of the reviewers were doing.

a gentle squeeze and a soft click and it's on. a gently pry on the tab and it slides off.

sensationalist much internet?!

cheese and rice people. it's a $200 gadget, not a $10 toy. take care of it and it will be fine. :)

one piece of advice, it seems counterintuitive, but apply the tab side first and then the non tab side to attach and it goes on much much easier.
[Samsung Gear Live] thevoiceless:
Had the watch since I/O, thoughts so far:

The charging cradle isn't the best, but it's not total crap. It's just a plastic holster. However, a friend has the LG G watch and its charging cradle is SO MUCH nicer.

The heart rate sensor is almost useless, I've had success MAYBE 1 out of every 5 tries. It's way harder to get a measurement after exercising, I assume because of sweat. Even when I have gotten results, they've been a little dubious (e.g. saying 56 bpm after riding 10 city blocks). You get a choice between Google Fit and some Samsung heart rate app; I've only used Fit, so maybe the Samsung one will work better.

All of the included watch faces are average at best. The G watch comes with much better ones.

I rarely use more than 50% of the watch battery in a day, and it doesn't seem to really affect the battery on my phone.

The vibration intensity needs to be increased, I can barely feel it.

Wear itself isn't very useful at the moment unless you enjoy checking weather. For example, the watch will show the "package shipped" card but if you want to track the package then you have to do so on the phone, you can't do it on the watch. Also, only regular notifications are mirrored right now, not ongoing ones (the ones you can't swipe away). That means that music player controls won't show up unless the app has been updated to work with Wear, and only a few apps have done that so far. Even the apps that have been updated don't always work. For example, Spotify shows a card with a play/pause button, but pressing it doesn't do anything for me. It works fine for my friend with the G watch though (I think it's a Wear issue, not a problem with the watch). The AOSP SMS app notifications show up on the watch, but it doesn't say who the sender is and only shows the text (Hangouts notifications show up correctly). The Gmail notifications strip all formatting out of the email and just show a wall of text that's really hard to read.

Overall, not super impressed.
[Samsung Gear Live] klau1:
Price of this model should drop like a fly soon

Considering that the Gear 1 which has a more expensive design:

Clasp

Camera

Charger

Speaker

Is already down to $199, this Gear Live should fall comfortably down to $100 once early adopters have finished buying.
[Samsung Gear Live] skitty:
Works fine with my Z2 and gear live so far
[Samsung Gear Live] thaibruin:
I had a Pebble before getting my Gear Live and used Pebble Locker. I just paid the $2.99 to unlock it to work with any wifi or bluetooth connection. It's been working great with my Gear Live.
[Samsung Gear Live] thefunkygibbon:
think i'm going to buy tasker instead... lot more functionality/potential for a similar price.
[Samsung Gear Live] :
So, I should wait until a price drop to get this?
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
it comes down to you, if you see the benefit in android wear and like the way the gear live looks, then get it and enjoy it.

honestly i don't see a price drop coming any time soon. you might however find a deal like the one for the gwatch through att (50% off with g3 or 25% off bundled with other accessories)

that's how i got my og gear watch (40% off at tmo) but as early adoption goes, this is 300x better than the gear was, but i'm not one who cares to take phone calls on my wrist.
[Samsung Gear Live] :
It does everything the Gear 2 does correct? Just missing the camera?
[Samsung Gear Live] JimSmith94:
It's also missing the speaker and infrared transmitter that I can think of.
[Samsung Gear Live] :
Well, I ride a motorcycle daily so I don't see the need for the speaker. I can still communicate with template texts correct?

Also, if I can add music to it for when I work out so I don't need to carry a phone, then I'm pretty much set.
[Samsung Gear Live] thevoiceless:
That's not the way Wear devices work, they're driven by the phone. You as a user don't store anything on the watch.
[Samsung Gear Live] Maturola:
Yiu still need your phone, the watch is not a stand alone device, it only show you notifications from you phone using bluetooth
[Samsung Gear Live] :
Well, guess I might have to pass it up and get the Gear 2 then... Damnit, I wanted a watch to work perfectly with my Nexus 5!
[Samsung Gear Live] thevoiceless:
If I understand you correctly, you actually want a watch that works without your Nexus 5. I don't think Wear will ever work that way, although I wish it would.
[Samsung Gear Live] Maturola:
Gear 2 is not a stand alone either, you need a galaxy phone

There is a rumored gear solo that it is a stand alone but that have never been released or announced
[Samsung Gear Live] :
Yes.

There's ways around to making Gear 2 work for a non-galaxy phone.

I was under the impression I can add music to the Gear 2/Neo/Fit and not need my phone to listen to music while running/gym.
[Samsung Gear Live] thevoiceless:
It sounds like the 6th-gen iPod nano might be more what you want?
[Samsung Gear Live] Maturola:
Nope, it only have 4GB of storage and it's mostly for Apps and OS
[Samsung Gear Live] :
No thanks, I moved away from iPod and iPhone.

Alright.

Can the Gear Live at least change music via watch? Say I'm listening to Spotify and want to change it via watch?
[Samsung Gear Live] Maturola:
Yes you can if the app had been updated for wear, I don't use Spotify so I don't know, Google music works I was using it today.

I'm sure Pandora and Spotify will support it soon if they don't already do
[Samsung Gear Live] thevoiceless:
Only if the app has updated to be compatible, since persistent/ongoing notifications are not mirrored to Wear devices. Spotify and Play Music have been updated. Spotify doesn't work for me but it works just fine for a friend of mine, so I don't know what's up.
[Samsung Gear Live] THEDEVIOUS1:
the info u received was incorrect...YES, u can in fact store music ON THE WATCH itself and connect directly to a bluetooth headset to listen to tunes WITHOUT needing your phone (please see link below)

not true...please see the "enjoy music on the go" section of the link below (besides the fact i actually owned one myself)

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/gear/gear2_features.html

^GEAR 2 FEATURES
[Samsung Gear Live] Maturola:
Well, I owned one too and i wasn't aware of this, i guess you are just limited by the 4G storage but ti is possible :good:

If you don't have your phone, then you can't really do much else, so I don't see the point except for working out
[Samsung Gear Live] ghostfaceg35:
I found an app today called wearable widgets. It takes any widget you have on your phone and mirrors it on your watch. I made a media Utilities widget so I have full music controls for any player using it, and a battery monitor widget so I can see my phones battery status from my watch. Pretty slick. Anyway just threw that out there for the music control debate.
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
yes, i use spotify and you can change tracks via the watch. you can also download musicmatch and get a little more functionality as well.

spotify works quite well out of the box (for me)
[Samsung Gear Live] :
I guess I'll just have to decide if I want it or not.

$200 for Gear Live which doesn't let me store music and use it as solo while working out or $250 for Gear 2 / $150 Gear Neo from AT&T 25% off which lets me.
[Samsung Gear Live] zlee67:
I was thinking the same but pulled the trigger on the live. The gear's future is too unknown. And if I upgrade to a non samsung phone the gear would be an expensive music player. Haha
[Samsung Gear Live] :
I thought the Gear 2 works on non-samsung phones?
[Samsung Gear Live] zlee67:
I think you can make it work with some hackery but not sure how well it will work or if everything will work right. Id rather have a device that will work well. Wont get mine till next week so hope I made the right choice. Haha
[Samsung Gear Live] thevoiceless:
I'll check that out tomorrow, you might be my new favorite person

Edit: This app is awesome
[Samsung Gear Live] AMoosa:
Sounds like what dinggus needs is a motoactv. Going cheap on eBay!
[Samsung Gear Live] :
Why? I like the Gear Live.
[Samsung Gear Live] spielnicht:
The Good: Got mine on Monday and I love the look and feel in comparison to the Sony Smartwatch 2 I was using (sold it to get this). Not to mention, Android Wear is sweet and shows lots of potential.

The Bad: The first issue I have with the watch is the vibration mechanism. It's EXTREMELY weak to the point where if I'm walking or moving my arm, I can't tell that I received a notification. With my arm still on a desk, I can fell it. Coming from the Sony SW2, this is a HUGE disappointment. A buddy of mine has the LG watch and got a chance to try it out...it's got a stronger vibration patterns.

The second issue I have is with the watch faces from Samsung. They're mostly useless. Most of the ones that are decent looking don't show a date. Stupid.
[Samsung Gear Live] mitchellvii:
If the Android Wear watches follow the pattern of most new tech, the first iteration is basically going to suck. I think I'll wait till we get to Android Wear 2.0 before jumping into the pool.
[Samsung Gear Live] jchoong:
I want to be an early adopter - to enjoy the fun and learnings of a new Android OS. No way am I going to miss this opportunity; at an affordable price premium. My Gear Live is coming from Japan!:o
[Samsung Gear Live] mitchellvii:
What they really need to do is give the watch wireless charging and put the battery in the wristband. Super thin watch could go for days on one charge.
[Samsung Gear Live] klau1:
Try the Gear 1. It's vibration seems strong enough to be heard even from afar
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
that is a terrible idea. thick wristband that is no longer interchangeable and costly to repair.
[Samsung Gear Live] mitchellvii:
No its a wonderful idea. The battery band would be a metal unit and the batteries would be in the links. You could have quite a normal watch band and and a watch half as thick. 3 days battery life on a thin watch with a normal sized metal band? Win.
[Samsung Gear Live] xetiro:
Waiting for mine...

Well, I though it would be a 7th July worldwide release but the watch isn't in Amazo.co.uk yet.

I could buy the LG G Watch but I'm definitely waiting for the Gear Live due to screen resolution. Very excited though :P
[Samsung Gear Live] adiliyo:
as long as we're dreaming and making up tech, how about nanograss to charge it?

if the batteries were made to be links the watch would be nonadjustable for different wrists as you wouldn't be able to remove any. if it was a cuff it would be extremely uncomfortable since batteries don't like to be flexed. it would also warm up your entire wrist.

in the end, what does this have to do with an already released product? or the OP? pointless post is pointless.
[Samsung Gear Live] thefunkygibbon:
wrong thread?
[Samsung Gear Live] frankthetoad:
I love the watch and my battery life is great. I do keep the brightness at the lowest setting, so I suppose that helps. I never kept my real watch on at night, so this is no different for me. No regrets.
[Samsung Gear Live] heyredy141:
Here are the pros and cons so far from my perspective. Overall Android Wear is still in beta and it has many issues before it can become a mature platform. I don't believe voice actions are the way to go unless it matures to the extent it can recognize all accents and natural language.

Pros

1) Good for running

2) Good design

3) Comfortable to wear

Cons

1) Android Wear platform is still buggy (Deleting mails shows as deleted but does not get deleted on phone)

2) No indication on when and how the apps installed on your phone are getting synced to your watch

3) Voice commands are not always recognized and some commands work and some don't. You need to know what commands work and what don't

4) HRM is useless

5) Bad battery life (Under a way)

6) No speaker. Would be great if it was there to give some feedback when doing voice actions.
[Samsung Gear Live] Mildromeda:
HEY REMEMBER GUYS THIS IS A GOOGLE PRODUCT AS FAR AS SOFTWARE IT WILL GET EVERY UPDATE AND EVERY NEW FEATURES BEFORE ANY OTHER SMART WATCHES it's basically the nexus 4 but a watch
[Samsung Gear Live] thevoiceless:
HEY DUDE YOU DON'T NEED TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS.

It's not a Google product, it's a Samsung product. Yes, Google is being more strict with Android Wear, but that doesn't make it a Google product.
[Samsung Gear Live] yopiggy:
Sold

Had the Gear 2 and sold it for the Gear Live. Wow, what a mistake. Went back to the Gear 2 yesterday and a thankful I did. You just can beat the mic and speaker together. The card system on Android Wear is horrible. At least on the Gear you can erase messages when you are done with them.
[Samsung Gear Live] :
I feel the same way and I sold my gear 2 so I will suffer for a month or so till the gear 3 comes out and hopefully with a round display but square is fine too. That speaker though, I miss it, taking a call while eating wings, phone on vibrate while watch makes notification sound ect. Gear 3 will be better obviously so I'm pumped!
[Samsung Gear Live] tu3218:
What way do you use the watch for running? I'm a big runner so curious to how you use it. Especially since you say the heart rate monitor is useless.
[Samsung Gear Live] parcou:
Wow. Thx for the save I have a Gear 2 and was about to do the same sell for the Live. I will wait. Can tell me if you could swap the band on the Gear to the Live.

Sent from mobile...excuse typos!
[Samsung Gear Live] yopiggy:
You can switch bands on the Live.