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[Galaxy Tab S General] xchampx13:
I just got mine today... am extremely impressed with it so far. Very lightweight and good quality, screen is stunning, very fast so far as well. Now ive only just about set it up and haven't really done much yet so this will get a update later. all ive done is update all the apps, took a look at Galaxy Gifts and Essentials, and setup a few differents apps on it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] orangespoon:
true but...

Sony's skin/bloat-ware isn't as bad as Samsung and avoids having tro root and mess with ROMs etc

still undecided between Z2 and Tab S
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Nothing a decent debloating or rom can't solve. This Tab S 10.5 is pure ocular joy. Every day I am amazed by the extreme resolution, deep blacks and vibrant colors. The only reason I can see for going with the Sony is if you plan to use the tablet in the tub ☺.
[Galaxy Tab S General] orangespoon:
thanks, sounds interesting...

I have used Plex a lot as well but I prefer a simple solution and not having another server on all the time :)

looks like i may be ripping my BluRay collection and sticking them on an SD card
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm not pro or anti Sony. But their bezels are just huge on all their devices. The Z2 tablet being waterproof is its only advantage over Samsung's tablets. You get a 1/2 larger display on the S in a smaller footprint. Until I see posts like yours I forget Sony even makes tablets.
[Galaxy Tab S General] orangespoon:
yes but...

everyone has their own requirements

we have a 2.5 year old in the house and larger bezels would be useful
[Galaxy Tab S General] MarvelousOne35:
Sadly I'm returning mine today. I was so caught up in media consumption with the screen I neglected the web browsing experience which is less than subpar imo. My Asus tf700t did a better job web browsing and that was a piece of **** for lack of a better term. I'm loving the screen and battery life but I've tried all the tricks to get chrome running smoothly and it just suffers. Other web browsers aren't any better either so so long my love, I enjoyed the pleasure while it lasted :crying:
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
If the N10.1-14 on 4.3 was faster than the TF-701 on 4.4 there's something amiss. AnandTech's Sunspider scores for the 8.4/10.5 were 1,082/1,015. That's pretty poor considering they and the N10.1-14 share h/w. Hopefully updates will improve things. As for Chrome, for whatever reason, it's a slug on all Samsung's high-end tablets and has been widely discussed on all their forums.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Did you try Maxthon HD Tablet browser? It is amazingly fast and full featured. Regardless for me Chrome ran perfectly albeit I don't care for how it handles bookmarks so I switched to Maxthon. Nevertheless, lag was never a problem and Web pages always looked great and loaded fast.

When I hear these reports of terrible responsiveness in something as basic as Web browsing I have to wonder if you have a defective unit or some sort of software causing a resource conflict. Are you still using Touchwiz? Did you try another launcher such as Nova or GO? There is simply no way a tablet with this level of hardware should struggle at Web browsing at all.
[Galaxy Tab S General] xRevilatioNx:
I own the Asus TF701 and the browsers blue away this tablet. Here are my scores.

Asus TF 701T -

Samsung Galaxy Tab S -

Samsung Galaxy Tab S (Default Browser Benchmarks)

Samsung Galaxy Tab S (Chrome Browser Benchmarks)

In closing, I can live with the sub par browsing performance, but with this device being a year older than the Asus, Samsung should have figured out by now how to make the browsers more efficient..
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
Your Tab S...

My N10.1-14...

We've proven one of two things - 1) benchmarks have no reflection on every day performance or perceptual "feel," or 2) subjectivity isn't our friend. The fact both our devices score so similarly, mine after moving from 4.3>4.4 and just recently receiving an update, means in terms of "perfecting" the s/w what you guys have is pretty much what you're going to get. Or at least the most the h/w allows. I'm like over the moon happy with my device's performance. After the last two updates (4.4 and 4.4+1) there's not a hint of lag and the stock browser's as fast as a QHD screen allows. So either I have no standards, some folks here have really high standards, or there's something at play that goes beyond clinical benchmarks that make the S' seem "slow" at certain things (whatever that means ;) ). Being fairly intelligent I'm not even going to render an opinion as to which it is.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Ah benchmarks. Held in such high regard and yet so useless in evaluating real world experience. Benchmarks can be affected by so much not having to do with real world speed. Also the browser on the Tab S is pushing a ton of pixels. For me both Chrome and Maxthon have been quite snappy even with the most graphics laden sites. Pages load as fast here as they do on my i5 ultrabook. Good enough for me.

One nice thing about Maxthon is that you can set it up where going back to the prior page just loads from cache as opposed to going back to the web for it. This makes flicking between links much much faster.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Zeblade:
Lol you have to give benchmarks more credit then that. Tab S is not known for its lightening super smooth web browsing. Not slow by any means yet even mine is not as smooth as other tabs I have had.
[Galaxy Tab S General] MarvelousOne35:
No mitchellvii I haven't tried Maxthon HD. Tried Dolphin, Next and a couple others. I believe you shouldn't have to resort to other means for something as simple as web browsing for such a high end device though. My crappy tf700 from 2012 blew this web browsing experience away. Hopefully the device was defective but seeing as there's a thread dedicated to making chrome faster I highly doubt it. Already returned mine though but man I will cherish that screen. I wonder if the experience is any better on the 8.4 inch version :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Tab S General] xRevilatioNx:
Yeah. I got the updated TF701 in 2013. I guess I'm just spoiled with the Web browsing from that device. It's the closest feel to being on a PC, I've ever had. I didn't show the benchmark for the "stock browser" on my ASUS . That had the highest score of them all. A whopping 3600! It was lag free and loaded pages instantaneously.

But like Barry said. we are working with a QHD. Even thought the Asus TF701 had the same resolution. It didn't have AMOLED.
[Galaxy Tab S General] MarvelousOne35:
Hmm, I wonder if amoled could be the problem because I've tried the tab pro 10.1 and the experience was better on there than the tab s 10.5. Gonna sell my white book cover for the 10.5 on ebay most likely since I have no use for it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
The Galaxy S4 was AMOLED while the S4 Active was LCD - they shared the rest of the same h/w. The AMOLEDs (Octa and S-600) did better in most benchmarks. So unless there's something about AMOLED that's affected by scale that alone shouldn't explain a performance difference compared to Samsung's LCD tabs.

Here's something I found interesting. The LTE S' are in fact Exynos and not S-800 like the rest of Samsung's LCD tablet family. It's a more costly solution (cost of a separate vs. Integrated modem, PCB retooling) and performance certainly doesn't improve. Pure guess but either Samsung doesn't want to support two GPUs (Mali, Adreno) for their AMOLED panels or a strength/weakness between the two unique to AMOLED caused Samsung to pick Mali.

The Tab Pro should benchmark the same as my N10.1-14 which benchmarks the same as the S'. If you've ever run Vellamo's browser benchmarks they aren't emulated; meaning they actually open a browser window and you can watch the tests run visually. That means my N10.1-14 (whose browsing performance I think is great) completes the tests on-screen in exactly the same time as [MENTION=4742155]xRevilatioNx[/MENTION]'s Tab S which he is less than pleased with. So we're either all looking at the same thing and drawing different conclusions or there's something in the way the S' paint the screen that may make them appear slower when Vellamo says they're within spitting distance performance wise based on the time it takes to complete the on-screen tests.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Just ran a side by side comparison with my Note 3 and my Tab S 10.5 opening webpages in Chrome and Dolphin. While both loaded graphics heavy pages quickly, the Note 3 was as much as zero to 1/2 second faster. Understandable given the kazillions of extra pixels this is pushing.

So, would I return this tablet with its amazing form factor and gorgeous screen because it is occasionally 1/2 second slower than my Note 3 loading a webpage that is pretty much doused in graphics, flash videos and ads? Hell no. I'm not in that much of a hurry.

One thing I did notice. Since the most recent update, YouTube videos in HD launch almost instantly on my Tab S with practically no buffering time. It's actually a bit shocking as in, "how the hell do it do that?!".

Could be that at this resolution LCD is slightly faster but if I wanted LCD I would have saved money and kept my Tab Pro. Some things are worth waiting a fraction of a second for.
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
Do you guys consider this good performance, average performance, or poor performance? Is what you're experiencing better or worse? Keep in mind the major pauses are eye/hand coordination holding the camera not performance issues. I'm also on coffee house Wi-Fi. Interesting to get some reactions to something real for expectation setting.

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[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Here is YouTube of my launching an HD music video from YouTube after the most recent OTA. As I said, it is amazing how instantaneous this is. What this means is that the hardware IS up to some eye bleeding streaming performance. If anything is slowing web loads down it is a software optimization issue that can be improved as it has been here.

[YOUTUBE]NMRJymjk1HY[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Tab S General] xRevilatioNx:
Since we're doing video demos, I figured why not, I'll add mine. My videos will demo the browser experience between the Asus Transformer Infinity TF701 and the Samsung Galaxy. Tab S.

I also added a demo using the Asus Transformer Infinity TF701 zipping through the graphic intensive website "The Verge" over at theverge.com

Asus transformer Infinity TF701 -

[youtube]St1l1Vaw1so[/youtube]

Samsung Galaxy Tab S -

[youtube]boC30ZGk4Yc[/youtube]

Asus TF701 Browser Demo at the graphic intensive website "THE VERGE".

[youtube]Ej9oihvs3ZU[/youtube]

Now try to get get this Samsung to work that website, just as smoothly. Isn't going to happen, unfortunately.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
My 10.5 experiences none of the chopping or stutter you show here. Scrolling is always smooth and fast.

The Verge is a poor choice to use for demonstration purposes. I don't know what is happening in their code but it is he slowest website I've ever encountered on any platform.

Since my 10.5 is about the same speed as my Note 3 my guess is the amoled does slow things down. However because streaming video launches and runs with such blazing speed, I have to believe that any slowness in rendering a website is a software and not a hardware issue. If this tab can flawlessly stream an HD video instantaneously it can surely run a website without lag and stutter. The hardware is up to the task. Samsung just needs to find the software bottleneck.

One thing I've noticed. Websites seem to load 98% of the way very fast but for some reason hang a bit right at the end. I ran a speedtest and am getting 57mbps down. So the data is getting through. Something is happening between the data received time and the draw it on the screen time that is slowing things down.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Try disabling Javascript.

WHAT a difference. Could it be that the Tab S is bottlenecking on Javascript?

[YOUTUBE]cvsD1W9EHus[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Tab S General] xRevilatioNx:
How is it a poor choice? I just showed you a platform (Asus Transformer Infinity TF701) that blows away our Galaxy Tab S. Proof is in the pudding my friend. As much as we love this device, Sometimes we have to step back, from behind our rose colored glasses, and call a spade a spade. The Web browsing experience, on the Samsung Galaxy Tab S, is abysmal at times.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Turn off Javascript and watch TheVerge FLY on the Tab S. I'm telling you, Javascript is what is bottlenecking our Tab S browsers. Look at my video. Try it for yourself.

There is nothing wrong with Tab S hardware. This is a software issue.
[Galaxy Tab S General] evillhyde:
I'm waiting for my Galaxy Tab S 10.5 and I have a few questions. Is there a notification led ? What do you think about speakers: quality, loudness (compering them to Nexus 10)? How long does it take to fully charge the battery?
[Galaxy Tab S General] stealthieone:
why can't I get thd YouTube video to play in chrome? but in samsung browser the videos play fine
[Galaxy Tab S General] Itchiee:
It does run much better with it off. I know this hardware is fine since it's runs everything else great.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Thank you. Yes it runs MUCH better with it off. Don't know why I am having such a difficult time getting people to accept this. Everyone is blaming the cpu or the gp or the amoled screen. It's SOFTWARE people.
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
Thanks for posting the videos. Are people's issues with manipulating open pages or opening, navigating between, and refreshing pages? I've never had an issue on open pages even on 4.3.

[YOUTUBE]xXMPhQxDj0w[/YOUTUBE]

Also, you were pretty active in the Asus forums. Is your TF701 stock or modded?
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
The thing that clued me into the fact that the problem was software and not hardware related was twofold:

1) After the latest OTA YouTube HD videos were loading and running stutter free instantaneously. I was also getting 56 mbps download speeds. How could I be getting fantastic video speeds yet slightly laggy web pages? What did web pages have that videos dont?

2) Pages seemed to "mostly load" in the background then sort of hang. What was happening after the data loaded but before it was displayed causing the hang?

To me these factors indicated not a hardware issue as I was getting fast data but "something" was causing it to hang up. The natural suspect would be Javascript as perhaps Samsung has some sort of security apparatus going on that is testing all Javascript before it loads - who knows?

Regardless, with Javascript disabled pages not only load quickly, you can tab back and the prior page reloads instantly.
[Galaxy Tab S General] MojoRis1n:
Is there any downside to disabling Javascript?

Sorry for the n00b question. Just got my Tab S and trying to read up on everything here for optimization.

Edit - nvermnd I am reading the other thread about Turning off Javascript.
[Galaxy Tab S General] xRevilatioNx:
My ASUS Transformer Infinity TF701 is Stock. My main issue with the websites are twofold. Rendering speed. And stutter when scrolling. The Verge doesn't completely render all, on Samsung (when scrolling up and down) as seen in my videos.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Unless I had a fiber optic connection I can't imagine websites rendering faster than the Tab S with JS off. As far as scrolling stutter I am getting zero. As far as TheVerge is concerned I'm not going to evaluate the performance of my tablet based upon a poorly optimized website. Regardless the performance on The Verge was outstanding with the Tab S (given the sites inherent issues).
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Honestly very little. You might get the occasional button that won't work or a pop up menu that won't pop up or a chat room that doesn't work, but in most cases you won't miss it. If you run into a problem where you need it simply turn it back on and refresh the page.
[Galaxy Tab S General] xRevilatioNx:
The tape don't lie..

---------- Post added at 04:41 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:39 PM ----------

you want to enjoy the full browser experience. Thus why Samsung needs to find a fix. Who wants to sit there and turn it on and then off, from site to site. I have 42 bookmarks. 29 of them are using javascript. (If in fact javascript is an issue for them) because it isn't with me. I have the same problem with it on or off.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Of course the tape lies. Benchmarks can be very misleading compared to real world experience. I'm not sure what you are experiencing there but browsing is vastly improved in Stock, Chrome, Dolphin and Maxthon browsers with JS off on the Tab S. Of this there is no doubt whatsoever.

Regardless, yes Samsung needs to fix this. Javascript bogging things down is obviously undesirable. But my point was that everyone was saying the slight lag was due to the cpu or the amoled screen when it is none of those things. It's a software problem (my guess not a bug so much as a Samsung security "feature") and it can be fixed.

95% of my web browsing does not make use of Javascript. For now when it does it is easy enough to activate JS until Samsung fixes this.
[Galaxy Tab S General] MojoRis1n:
Just curious - these are astute and relevant observations, though, is there a way to inform Samsung of this? I ask because companies dont often fix things unless customers inform them they are broken
[Galaxy Tab S General] whmcal:
I would say, revisit this post in about three months and see whether you still have the same opinion. I remember thinking this about the Samsung tab 7.7 3g. Amazing aluminium body and super amoled screen. I thought it was THE BEST until Samsung forgot about it's customers. Every other tablet seemed to be getting an update except the 7.7 - stuck on honeycomb. The 7.7 had great promise, but became a great flop because of Samsung's customer neglect. I really hope they learn from past errors and begin to look after their customers. If they do, this tablet could seriously upset Apple
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Well as I mentioned, I think Samsung KNOWS about this. As a matter of fact I believe they did I on purpose and have no intention of fixing it. It is a security feature none of us asked for.

What may be possible is for a developer to find a way of disable this if it is truly there as I believe it must be.

Samsung builds for the masses and the masses think his tablet is already blazing fast. Go to the BestBuy website and read the reviews. 5 stars straight across. People are THRILLED with the performance.
[Galaxy Tab S General] boogie2001:
I agree with Mitchellvii, Maxthon is really sweet.. I especially like the night mode option. This is an option Ive wished for for a long time with chrome and with stock android. It should also help with battery life too!!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vazovskiiii:
Hi everybody i have purchased used note 3 sm-n900 version and i didn't saw there but after couple of hours i saw that led not working when i'm charging or when i get notifications it's not blinking i have tried factory reset and reflashed couple of times but nothing led not blinking is it possible that led is burned or does it possible that mother board pines is burned any ideas
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 84DGR:
Hi, My partner has a S5, it is running 4.4.2, as you know google have locked down using file browsers and other SD card apps.

The issue being that I have a Note 3 running STOCK 4.4.2 with no root access and I can use ES File Explorer to move files from my Media server to my External SD card.

Does any one know why this is and how you can do this without rooting the device>?
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fffft:
Google tightened up security in Kitkat by restricting third party access to your SD card. Apps now only have permission to work within one folder or area of the card, rather than anywhere. A file explorer, even a non-root version would logically have broader access than most types of apps due to the nature of what a file explorer needs to do.

You can revert the Kitkat changes if you are rooted. I am not aware of any apps or methods to so so without root. Nor can you revert to a pre 4.3 JellyBean firmware as Samsung has blocked reversion to preclude people removing Knox that way. You might be able to downgrade to an earlier Kitkat version that doesn't have the SD permissions change yet. I haven't confirmed that, but it might be possible.

But in practical terms you either need to root and revert the changes, live with the restrictions or seek out updated versions of apps that work better in the new regime.

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[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 General] ashrafmansuri:
i recently have flashed many roms in my grand including aokp aosp carbon etc

i love carbon rom but is there any way to change the fonts and sizes of the bars etc which they used to have before its comparatively small icons n bars n etc... hope you understand what m trying to say
[Galaxy Grand Duos i9082 General] androidbaba:
This is because developer reduced DPI to 180 use applications like texdroider from play store and increase DPI to 220 or 240

Press thanks if I helped you.
[Verizon LG G2] AndroJak:
Guys - if you are using the new Ok Google from any screen option, you may want to make sure your alarm works ok - I had to turn of the any screen option as my alarm was self snoozing with it on. (see the last 3 posts here: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=43430#c163)

Mods - I didn't see this posted already, but if it's a dupe, please delete,
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
I am not using ok google but if I have 2 alarms set then neither will go off, but if I set one or 3 or more they all work. Only issue is with 2 alarms. I had the issue though going back to my old HTC Eris and early versions of android.
[Verizon LG G2] suntopper:
Thanks for the information! I've been searching for this solution for two days. I thought it had to do with setting the timer with OK Google.:good:
[Verizon LG G2] AndroJak:
Glad I was able to help -

A bit more detail, it seems the G2 alarm has the issue here - I replaced my alarm with "Simple Alarm Clock Free" and can now use Ok Google Everywhere. I plan to update to the premium version shortly.
[Verizon LG G2] suntopper:
I played with it a little more. It seems like the initial alarm is "snoozed" but the subsequent "snooze alarms" have the sound. Makes sense since my alarm worked with the OK Google Everywhere. I never noticed that it went off 10 minutes late. This would indicate if you set your G2 alarm early by your snooze time, it should get you up on time (YMMV). I only noticed the issue because I set the timer via Google Now. No workaround for that one though! :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jimwick:
........... This Thread is not being monitored by [MENTION=426561]scrosler[/MENTION] and it is not for any CleanROM 8.2 updates as "scrosler" has retired from the S3 scene for other work. I believe you can still download the last CleanROM 8.2 from "scrosler" closed Thread or from his website.......

........... This thread is for those with knowledge of the CleanROM 8.2 that can help other-users with any problems that pop-up until we get KitKat or everyone goes to S5 :) ..........

......... Scrosler has done a awesome job with this ROM but he is only one man, we need to pick up what he has created and now help others in this great community. Whatever we do here make sure you hit the Thanks button on Scrolers thread in post 5..........
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] bobloblaw1:
Why don't you get his blessing and then make it make clear that this is an unoffoffical support thread maintained solely by fans of scrosler's work.

If you wanted to bang out the logistics before creating the actual thread, General probably would have been better. ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jimwick:
.......... thks for the direction, I tried to post in the S3 questions thread with no response and sent Admins a couple PM's, kinda hard to get direction when nobody wants to help ya. I much appreciate it :good: ........