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[G3 General] force70:
Nope...its locked also as far as im aware

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[G3 General] zxaz:
the d-850 and d-852 are the same...the only difference is that the d-852 isn"t branded (no carrier logo) like the at&t variant and have less bloatware on it (on the rom)
[G3 General] peoples_flip:
That absolutely sucks! Thank goodness for me one plus one
[G3 General] Firegrill:
Is 700 for <5 day used unlocked 32gb tmo g3 a good price?

How much would it cost in total if i were to go down to the US and get it in store outright?
[G3 General] TKG26:
Include cost of gas and your personal time used to go get it. My time is worth a lot lol
[G3 General] Firegrill:
Well I was heading down to the states anyways, I was just wondering how much total, after tax and everything, the phone would cost.
[G3 General] mathsmart:
I have my bell g3 since one week do you guys experiment some lag in tapatalk with the phone ?

Envoyé de mon LG-D852 en utilisant Tapatalk
[G3 General] 20hall:
Since the release date for the G3 on Wind is still unknown, does anyone know a good place in Toronto to get the T-mobile version G3? :confused:
[G3 General] force70:
Ive only seen one for sale local on kijiji and the owner is a member here also lol. Long sold though.

Was at Pacific mall sat and they only have the korean versions.

I think online is your only option atm...short of hopping borders and picking one up.

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[G3 General] mickliq:
My G3 is gone now, but for any Canadians who wanted to see what a T-Mobile rooted and ROM'd device running on FIDO looks like, I made a few videos here:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/s4nn3xo8hkmlcq2/VID_20140803_154838580.mp4

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o8s5fkkkdad01np/VID_20140803_154709004.mp4

I'll keep these links up for a few days.
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
Was thinking of picking this up on Bell, but it looks like the boot loader is locked and little to no development is happening :(

So far it only has root, correct?
[G3 General] TKG26:
Future shop does not even advertise the phone in the past 2 weeks of flyers
[G3 General] force70:
Correct...no doubt they will hack the bootloader though. .some talented guys working on it.

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Rogers has dropped the 2yr contract price from 180 to 80 lol...must not be selling very well.

With only one colour choice no wonder.

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[G3 General] TKG26:
Ya but who besides us android junkies know its out. No on advertises it
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
So in your opinion, if dev options are coming at some point, would you get the G3 or the HTC One M8 tomorrow?
[G3 General] tawheed12:
I've owned every flagship of 2014 and the launcher lag on the G3 is horrible. I'm hoping LG releases a fix.
[G3 General] force70:
G3 all the way....but the f460 version.

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[G3 General] Turbojugend:
It would be the bell version.
[G3 General] force70:
Id still choose the d852 g3 over the M8. That device is heavy, the screen is too small, device and bezels too big and the camera isnt very good.

Amazing build quality if you like metal though.

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[G3 General] Turbojugend:
Ok, I just worry about getting new Android devices too soon then having little to no dev or Roms come out for them :(
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
I couldn't find this answer anywhere else, but if the Canadian model is the same as the ATT one, how will we get development on it, when the ATT one won't?
[G3 General] force70:
Once they have an unlock for the bootloaders we will see some development . if they unlock the att version ours will get unlocked and vice versa

That said the tmo version is unlocked and the dev forums there are not very busy and the US has had the device for months.

Im holding off on the G3 which is depressing since i was looking fwd to it more than i have any other device.

note 4 I will get for on launch day for sure barring a locked bootloader.

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[G3 General] sonspot:
I end up getting one with rogers after selling 32nd s4. Both rogers and lg need to smart up. I willing choose to give lg a chance but with the lightly package unit no ear buds and taking there time to unlock the boot loader this might be my last lg product.
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
As long as there is a chance, I was looking at other forums with locked boot loaders, and the Sony Z2 people seem to think it will never be unlocked if it was locked by the provider, I figured the LG would be the same thing.

I used the G3 today all day at work and it is a great device.

I'll never buy another Samsung product, picked up the Tab S, and it is lag city. Once AOSP comes out for it, it may be better. At least any other Android device seems to be pretty decent out of the box, but never Samsung, TouchWiz kills it no matter how good the hardware imo.
[G3 General] TKG26:
2 weeks no ads in fs flyers and now price reduced.. Wow LG sh1tz the bed with release hype. O well i wont have the same phone as every person on tue street. Lol
[G3 General] sonspot:
Lol nice. If lg don't release a method of unlocking the boot loader soon I'm selling or returning the phone to rogers and never supporting them again. I'm not complaining about not having two batteries or wireless charging. Lg fraked up by listening to that north American providers. Seriously not even ear buds
[G3 General] TKG26:
How long do we have to return to rogers? I mean i am not unhappy with it... But do worry that lack of sales could mean even lack of updates from lg
[G3 General] force70:
I think 14 or 15 days but you cannot exceed 30min of talk time on the device.

If i do pick a G3 up it will most likely be the korean f460 version with the 805 soc and better GPU.

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[G3 General] TKG26:
30min of talk time?? LMFAO what a silly policy.. Luckily no one talks on these things!
[G3 General] force70:
Hahah tell me about it.....texting is king!

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[G3 General] n3m37h:
Loving my G3. Used purple drake to root and installed xPosed framework, I'm quite happy so far. And Bell/AT&T seem to have the same hardware just a slightly different serial. My GS3 used AT&T roms.
[G3 General] amrando:
-just inquired about the G3 [MENTION=688535]rogers[/MENTION] today since the pig****ers jacked my 7 year-old grandfathered service plan. Without a contract for over 4 years and they've jacked my 6Gb data and my voice plan by 50%- *unless* of course I renew for a contract, in which case it'll *only* cost me $10 more.. :rolleyes: Apparently this is now legal when you're off-contract as long as they give you 90 days notice.

So anyways.. </rant>

Since I now *must* renew a contract, I may as well get a subsidized phone. And really, the only choices right now IMHO are the GS5 or the G3. The Rogers CSR told me the G3 hasn't been advertised because it's basically been backordered since day one. LG failed to produce the stock Rogers needed, so they're still filling backorders. I can order one, but I was told it could be at least 2-3 weeks wait still. So it sounds like this is an issue for Rogers, and probably Bell as well.

I'm still leery of getting another LG after the cluster**** of the E970/971/973. The hardware was fine, the software was awful and CM hasn't been much better; while it doesn't lag like stock, it bluescreens weekly and burns the battery daily in about 16 hours flat. Is there no current prospects for unlocking the D852? The far wider support makes me favour getting a Galaxy S5 instead.
[G3 General] TKG26:
I got mine a week after launch... Im loving it. Order it and wait
[G3 General] amrando:
If you got yours a week after launch, when did you actually order it? How long *before* Aug. 1? I'm curious to guesstimate what the waiting list was like and is like now.

I had my E970 from Amazon for nearly 6 weeks before Rogers deigned to send me an E971 even though I was supposedly in the first 100 preorders. When it arrived and I realized it had no SD-card slot, it went right back.
[G3 General] TKG26:
August 2nd

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Ordered through business plan. Through my work.
[G3 General] amrando:
-and that would seem to indicate the waiting list is growing, not shrinking.
[G3 General] TKG26:
To be more accurate:

AUG 1 launch

AUG 2 saturday i was able to see it online via the 3rd party Rogers dealer

AUG 2 i placed order online

AUG 4 confirmation

AUG 5 mixup on porting number

AUG 6 need my visa number again!! To setup shipping

AUG 8 it was at my door!

LMFAO

I dunno what the reason???availability possibly. But LG really dropped the ball. This phone is now months and months old Available in the USA and else where. The Launch was NON EXISTENT!! My local future shop had none still has none, sales people almost know nothing about it. No cases obviously. No media no commercials..

Price was 179 at launch i think? I got it for 159$ a day later? now its 79$???? although GS3 and M8 are 99$ now
[G3 General] amrando:
Yep, it really smells like LG screwed the pooch in Canada. Likely a logistics issue because Bell/Rogers demanded their own hardware revision for such a small production run. SRSLY- Why is that even justified? It should be the same hardware as the AT&T version, they even offer 700mhz LTE service in Canada now. LG would already have scaled-up production for AT&T, so why not just order the same model?

Again, this makes me more reluctant to order one if this means some minor difference in hardware/firmware will prevent the D852 from getting the same unlocks and distros as the D850.
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
How did they change your plan? Bell lets you keep your plan unless you upgrade your device and not buy it outright.
[G3 General] crzygrmn:
There all the same phone models here in Canada. Like i have a g3 from mts mb. And it says d852 rgs on the box

Mts sasktel bell rogers videotron even telus all have d852. Exept wind they get T-Mobile when ready. And its basically the same as AT&T model just model number became d852.

So if ever we will be using AT&T or distros fixed for d852. But i dont think that will happen any time soon . since bootloader is still locked and it doesnt look Good for any unlock either lg or xda folks.
[G3 General] ere1nion:
Went in store on August 20th, left the store with one in my hand, with my 60$/6gb plan. Don't think there is a national backorder. Maybe in some area. Like the phone so far.
[G3 General] force70:
There is no shortage of G3 devices here in the toronto area. I think that csr is full of crap....if the device is selling like hot cakes why would rogers drop the on contract price from $180 to $80 only a few weeks after launch?

Having only one colour avail when everyone knows the Us has 3 or more has probably hurt sales. I know i was annoyed to walk into the store launch day only to find the dark grey colour as the only one.if they had white i would have bought it..of course it would have went back once i saw the bootloader was locked lol

And if they tried to screw me like that with your plan they would get told bye bye..hello bell.

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[G3 General] amrando:
The only explanation I have for the price drop is to keep pace with the GS5 and One M8 - it launched later, but is still stuck playing price-match with them as the market leaders.

Oh, I know - I would dearly love to tell them to f*** off. But It's pretty simple - The best rate I can get from a Telus or Bell rep is over $100/mo. for the same service as even the new plan they're offering. Believe me- I've *tried* walking into a Telus Store with my monthly bill in hand to show them my rate plan, they still tell me they can't/won't match it, as their requirements for corporate rates are different and I won't qualify- they can't or won't match it just to spite Rogers like they *should*. And what good is it to tell Rogers to f*** off, if it costs me an extra $350/year to do it..

If Wind had even a bit better coverage in the cities I have to work in, and along the regional routes I'm travelling I could switch to them, but their coverage is still terrible once you get 10 miles out of a major city.
[G3 General] sonspot:
I too got jacked with my contract because I upgraded, needless to say I no longer have 6gb of data, I'm down to 3gb and paying $10 more per month..

I'm not sure if the csr is a idiot or simply don't know anything. Since launch bb and fs did not have the phone, I don't know why. Anyhow I ordered my phone about two weeks ago and received it the next day before noon! Lol

I've had no hardware issues with the phone so far, well the speaker sounds like **** could just be this one. I really only use it for my alarm which reminds I should check to make sure the headphone jack is working..... My issues are with the software, auto correct sucks ballz, that include word predictions. Unlock boot loader will help a lot that's my rant for the night.....

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I was in the boat as you, as much as I hate rogers its the price plan that's keeping me with them. If the s6 comes out end of year with a bigger screen and something better than the 805 cpu I'll sell this if I still have it.
[G3 General] amrando:
Yep, this is why I'm gunshy about another LG. My E970 bluescreened and wiped the IMEI a few months ago while on CM11, it took me several weeks of tinkering to get it fixed, and I've had plenty of problems with my Nexus4 since the Kitkat updates too. Galaxy phones are far more popular, have a far larger dev community, have a lot more accessories, etc etc etc. Though the hardware isn't quite as durable, screen isn't as high-res.. having working, better software goes a long way.

Also, I had a Nexus One.. I will never touch another HTC for as long as I own a phone.
[G3 General] mickliq:
I would recommend looking at a port to FIDO. Same network (and Company) as Rogers, but usually better no-contract pricing.

I don't think they have the best plans right now but if you are on no-contract, then as soon as a better promo is launched, you can switch to it, no questions asked. I've done it many times.
[G3 General] sonspot:
I had the last 3 galaxy phones excluding the s5. I wanted a bigger screen, I burn bridges with HTC so this was my logical option and I wanted something new. If lg open up the phone it could be one of the best phone of the year, they really need to think hard wisely or they'll begging us to take their phones for free. I have no loyalty to retarded companies.

As for acc gear watch works with the g3. I'm selling mine and getting the moto 360 but if moto takes any longer I might burn bridges with them too. It's end of summer and there's no definite word on what's going on with the 360.
[G3 General] amrando:
I've done this investigation for myself and corporate clients a few times over the last few years - the problem is the 'fighter brands' always lowball the data plans. Fido, CHAT-R, Koodo, Virgin.. they never offer 5-10Gb data plans to avoid stepping on the mainline carrier's toes.

A couple years back, when Rogers first introduced the LTE network, they briefly had a promo for the 10Gb data plan @$50/mo. I inquired and wanted to switch from my $30 6Gb plan.. they refused to allow the 10Gb plan to be attached to a smartphone. Because y'know, you should *always* have to pay for a separate hotspot or USB key to use 10Gb..

greedy ****s.
[G3 General] mickliq:
It really depends on usage. I have a $56/mth plan - 10% BYD that includes 2GB of data a month. Each extra 1GB is $10 only if you use it and only in that month. I don't go over since I use a lot of WiFi, but it works for me. I gave up a 6GB plan to get the much more affordable all in package because my usage didn't warrant it.

I know you emphasize you always use 5-6GB, question is whether you have an option to use less and you just use it because you can. Another option is to use something like am LTE mobile hotspot, if you don't need it to be part of your mobile device.
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
I don't think it is LG who lock the device down since the bootloader is not locked on some carriers. My guess is some ****head higher up that has no clue what they are talking about decides if the device will be locked down.
[G3 General] sonspot:
I would say a combo of carrier and that higher up moron. I'm looking into wireless charging but it seems the higher ups morons at rogers went with a non qi charging system.. I'm liking the phone yet so disappointed with the carrier and with lg for not giving us more. They're competing with Samsung 81st least put a damn ear bud in the ?
[G3 General] force70:
Only one carrier..tmobile..isnt locked.

Everyone else, including the korean carriers are locked. They locked down the damn bootloader in their own country! As much as i loved my G2 im becoming less of an LG fan..i was planning on G3 and bypassing the note 4..now im going the other way.

The concept of knox pisses me off but at least i can do what i want with my device. I have never given a rats ass about warranty and always get a good laugh when anyone on this site brings it up.

Why are u even on a developer site if your concerned with warranty lol?

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[G3 General] amrando:
That is exactly my problem- I already HAVE a portable hotspot router for regular usage, the smartphone data plan is usually the supplement or backup to it.. in addition to its own use. With 10Gb I could guarantee only needing one device instead of two.

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Having talked to senior Rogers engineers long past, phone orders are essentially á la carte design by the carriers- the manufacturer submits a feature list and the carrier deletes whatever they don't want. Verizon was notorious for this in the CDMA days, they were worse than Telus. This was how Motorola, Ericsson and especially Nokia used to operate back in the day because US and Canadian carriers always wanted phones crippled compared the the European/Asian equivalent model. Ie: for years Nokia smartphones didn't have wifi chipsets enabled in North American models even though the hardware included them.
[G3 General] C.Flat:
I'd blame LG on this. Samsung devices are always unlocked on Canadian carriers
[G3 General] sonspot:
I still blame lg on this, they should put their foot down and say they want their customers to fully enjoy the product. In the case of the g3 n.a. is missing a lot compare to the Korean market. Two battery, ear buds, tv antenna and wireless charging out the box no extra hardware to buy.

I really hope lg reads these forum, word of mouth is still the best form of advertising.
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
Well doesn't North America make up less than 10% of the worldwide market? If so it wouldn't make sense for them to include all of that cost for so few people.

I thought it was the carrier's who decided about bootloaders, I guess not.
[G3 General] TKG26:
Wouldn't it cost more to make 3 or 4 versions of the same thing vs one all in device?
[G3 General] sonspot:
What extra cost tho? you can buy the Korean package with everything for the same or less than you pay for the north American package that comes with less, way less. If anything I'd say north America have a bigger profit margin than the Koreans.

Anyhow, its a nice phone but north America needs a revaluation in regards to phone prices, plans are ok if you can get Corp
[G3 General] mickliq:
FYI

http://www.iphoneincanada.ca/carriers/rogers/fido-lure-old-customers-65-canada-plan-5gb/
[G3 General] dbowmanda115:
lg g3 canada bootloader

Does anyone know if the canada g3 ships with unlocked bootloader such as d851?
[G3 General] mickliq:
D852 boot loader is locked. You need a D851 if you want to run custom ROMs.
[G3 General] crzygrmn:
No. It doesnt. Only phone that unlocked bootloader is T-Mobile version. Every other version is looked worldwide
[G3 General] dbowmanda115:
lg g3 canada :)

Damn! Its to bad for everyone elts. Maby devs could use loki exploit such as the g2. Either way the g3 is still a mint smartphone
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
Does T Mobile sell this device outright in their stores? If someone doesn't unlock the Bell G3, I'll be in the States in Sept.
[G3 General] crzygrmn:
Of course they will sell outright. Every carrier does
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
In Canada it depends on the shop you go to. I called Futureshop (Best Buy) and they won't sell a device outright.
[G3 General] johentie:
what do you mean "if someone doens't unlock the bell G3?" you can unlock the Bell G3 via 3rd party...

I just unlocked my G3 for Rogers through a 3rd party cause i'm travelling to Italy in a week... tested a Telus and Bell SIM card and it works fine.. just gotta add the APNs
[G3 General] crzygrmn:
I always

Buy my phones from future shop. Outright.

Maybe he meant bootloader unlock. If not there are 1.4 sim unlock codes on ebay.

Or unlockscout.com its a 1.4 and really quick

And its not a scam
[G3 General] force70:
Yeah......

Bootloader unlock. ..sim unlock is easy

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[G3 General] Turbojugend:
Yeah I would guess it is a store manager decision at Futureshop if they do it or not.

And sorry I meant Bootloader unlock, not a SIM unlock.
[G3 General] force70:
I bought my s3 outright from them on launch day way back when. Last time got my note 3 from wireless wave outright on launch day also.

Sometimes you need to be a little bit forceful in making it happen but they can do it.

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[G3 General] crzygrmn:
Yeah for bootloader we have to wait till att or verizon get unlock. Or go to us and get T-Mobile g3 . its the only version worldwide with unlocked bootloader.
[G3 General] brar.arsh:
Does best buy have G3? I really doubt it because they dont have it here at London.
[G3 General] Turbojugend:
I just put Best Buy in brackets in case someone didn't know what Futureshop was.
[G3 General] amrando:
Yes, it would - how *much* more is the question, and apparently manufacturers from Nokia 20 years ago on down have always assumed that cost. How many versions of the Optimus G/G2/G3 are there? Same with the Galaxy S3/S4/S5.. at least 15 years ago Nokia had the decency to give them separate model numbers for different radios, keyboards, etc.

But it raises customer frustrations all the time - perfect example right here; G3s with wireless charging. Nexus 4s and 5s support QI. Every model of the G3 *except* AT&T and Rogers use Qi, the industry-standard cross-platform solution. Except AT&T and Rogers.. who decided that PMA would be a better choice, so they could force customers to buy a branded charging device.

This is like every format war ever- Blu-Ray & HD-DVD, VHS & Beta, HDMI and Displayport.. pointless greed and obfuscation by manufacturers at the expense *literally* of the public. And then anyone who backed the losing side is hung out to dry by the company that initiated it.

I am really tempted to buy a D851 when I can afford it, since the 851 supports Qi, most of the domestic Canadian LTE frequencies for Bell, Rogers or Telus AND also supports AWS for use on Wind.. the D852 of course omits this.
[G3 General] Cuzz1369:
The whining in this thread drives me crazy. Fine go pay Too much money for a t-mo version with an unlocked boot loader for a phone that doesn't even have aosp booting on it yet.

By the time there is a Rom worth flashing the damn thing will be unlocked.

Stop it guys. You are making Canadians look like wussies.

What would Don Cherry say....

Sent from my LG-D852
[G3 General] force70:
I buy all my devices outright so yeah not much cheaper to buy a Rogers device as compared to tmo.

I wont buy either though not with the f460 out there:D

And last I checked the G2 kitkat updated devices are still locked...if that says anything

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