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[Nexus 4 General] will_chrome:
my reason :

- I got my N4 cheap (got $100 discount when I bought it).

- screen density is more than enough for my poor eyes. (tell you the truth I really can tell differences between 415ppi vs 318ppi).

- CPU sector, for me myself my nexus 4 is already fast enough. I mean this is a phone not a laptop/pc, I don't need huge clock speed or ram to play games.

only one two cent personal opinion.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfen69:
I haven't owned a Moto X, but I know all about it. I bought the Moto G and was very happy with it. My tech-ego got in the way and told me I need a Nexus 5. I don't regret it one bit.
[Nexus 4 General] japmeet:
It is a great phone, no questions there :)
[Nexus 4 General] pjc123:
Why did you decide to stay with the N4 after the N5 was released?

I guess because not everyone is as independently wealthy as you. Geez, I just bought the thing only a year and a half ago. Assuming that someone keeps making OS updates for this phone on this forum to keep up with security updates, I will keep it for around the same time-frame as I refresh my main desktop computer, about 5 to 7 years. Heck, my older second desktop computer is 11 years old and runs various versions of Linux as well as XP just fine (Although I disabled XP because it was finally discontinued.) I understand it is the constantly changing hardware that forces Google to very quickly stop supporting OS upgrades on older devices (really just an excuse to sell more devices), but it is really ridiculous that my Nexus 4 will shortly become obsolete by Google's standards, unlike Microsoft who supports their operating systems for a very reasonable amount of time.
[Nexus 4 General] ruicc:
I stayed with my Nexus 4 because Nexus 5 didn't offer a significant difference in performance. I was able to compare that side by side, and the performance of my Nexus 4 was just fast as Nexus 5. So i saw no point in change.

As i'm a non gamer guy, i think Nexus 5 will perform better games than Nexus 4, but i really don't play much.

Personally speaking, changing phone every year (some people always want to stay on fashion), seems to me like throwing money away, i think it's better change of 2 in 2 years, then you'll notice more technology improvement.

Another situation, was when i saw the Nexus 5...i was totally disappointed with his design..i mean look at the Nexus 4...it has an amazing design, glass on the back, all seems to be in harmony.

In Nexus 5 it's just a phone...don't know...lack of personality, i guess....lol

Now, i'll be waiting for Nexus 6...let's see if it worth...
[Nexus 4 General] Deleted member 5163087:
Most of the replies posted in the thread apply to me as well. Some additional thoughts that kept me away from the n5:

It feels better in my hands and the size was perfect. The main things I liked were the corners of the nexus 4 were more curved than the 5, and that the tapered edges of the n4 screen felt natural.

I also preferred the n4's "discrete" camera compared to the gigantic wart that's on the back of the n5.

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 General] uchihakurtz:
I stayed because I won't jump to another phone until I see significant improvement in technology as nowadays it's just spec bumps. I think the 4th is more than enough to last for another 2 years. I'll probably change next year with the coming of L and 64bit phones and only if it really matters. Oh, and I'm not rich enough to change phone every year ?
[Nexus 4 General] arffrhn:
No CandyKat? It is there, right here.

My reason? Saving up my money for my masters degree studies.
[Nexus 4 General] steviemch:
I got the N4 on contract which isn't up until March next year.

Being a student I couldn't afford to buy it outright, and obviously couldn't afford to buy the N5 when it came out.

I will, however, be buying the Nexus 6 the moment it's released. I should have my student loan through by then.

Priorities, right?
[Nexus 4 General] eksasol:
I think the Nexus 4 is a gorgeous looking phone (I'm a sucker for the glitter back) and I like how the edges curve as well, it is a unique design. It's also one of the most comfortable device to grip. Lastly, the size of the screen and phone are very similar to the Moto X, which is the ideal size for me. I believe LG went with cheaper production cost with the N5. I originally sold my N4, but when Android L preview image was announced, I was dying to try it out, so I bought another N4. I'm not planning to sell it again (I hope), there is a charm about this device that I like.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
I to am a nexus lover. I did buy a n5, I do use it as my daily phone for the most part. but I do occasionally use my n4 as my phone as well. actually, I use my n4 and n5 every day. my n4 I use daily as a WiFi device at work. and it is still a great device! but those that say that the n4 is on par with the n5 when it comes to speed, are just kidding themselves. sure, in the ui, its just as fast as my n5. heck, my gnex is as fast in the ui as my n5. but I'm not talking ui, as any phone(even my nexus s) can have a fast ui if you set it up right. I'm talking opening apps/process, and computing. the n5 blows my n4 away when it comes to apps opening, and the speed of actually computing. anyways, that doesn't take away from my n4, as I do love it as part of my family :)
[Nexus 4 General] uploder:
I stayed because it wasn't that BIG of an upgrade from the N4 to be honest. Definitely getting the N6 whenever its announce/released.
[Nexus 4 General] linkboy:
I got the my Nexus 4 when Google put them on sale last year before the 5's release. I'm in the process of convincing the wife that I need (aka want) a Nexus 5.
[Nexus 4 General] Juanito216:
I moved to a Note 3 but I wouldn't mind getting a second phone that's a Nexus. I prefer the hardware, but we all know the appeal of a Nexus. My mother has my old N4, and i'm missing out on flashing that Android L port, lol.
[Nexus 4 General] biostar:
wait for nexus 6 !
[Nexus 4 General] vencc:
Because I'm a cheap mofo who only bought the nexus 4 cause of the $200 sale. But i probably won't get the nexus 5 when the price drops either because it seems like a minuscule upgrade
[Nexus 4 General] monkor:
Because the front screen on my N4 cracked, then I bought a Note II. Then I sold that and bought a Note III for the same price, which turned out to be blacklisted after a week. So I sold that for repair costs on the N4 and here I am. Probably going to spring for the N5 when the price drops but the moral of the story is that the grass is always greener and the N4 still rocks.
[Nexus 4 General] Gallardo994:
As for me, Nexus 5 doesn't seem to be a huge upgrade compared to Nexus 4. Everything is still fast, stable, and etc, so there's no particular difference in the devices.
[Nexus 4 General] The Zel:
Because I'm waiting for the next nexus

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[Nexus 4 General] andyr0ck:
price (mainly) + SailfishOS compatibility. :D
[Nexus 4 General] BassBlaster:
Because I love my nexus 4 :). Design is great, hardware is great and has more then enough power to run the next versions of android for years to come. I bought my N4 when the nexus 5 was just about to release in a couple months. I really disliked that front ugly white mic of the n5 and I didn't want to wait any longer for a new phone so I just bought it and was happy ever since :). I had a galaxy SL i9003 from 2011 - 2013 mid and the difference was huge. However I do wish the n4 had a sdcard slot and a non-glass back, even though it looks beautiful. My glass back broke from putting it on a cold wooden table -.-, but I still get compliments on the device when its face up, because people find it unusually cool, a phone with no buttons on its front.
[Nexus 4 General] nickslg:
If the nexus 5 didn't offer much over the nexus 4 what makes people think the n6 is gonna be any better I mean were gonna be getting android 5 'L'on the n4 so that's good enough for me

Long live the n4
[Nexus 4 General] j1mp492:
I don't always need to have the greatest and latest, and I'm more than happy with it even if it's a bit outdated now.

The hardware is just fine for my usage since I don't play games or do anything else that really requires better for that matter.

Also to me the size is just fine as it is, and it's not like newer versions of android is gonna slow down the device.

The N5 didn't feel like a significant upgrade, sure there's definitely improvements and what not but there's nothing that I really need.

So I rather spend the money on something else.

And there's a perk with skipping an upgrade, the "wow" feeling is going to be much bigger once you finally settle for an upgrade.

If there's just small improvements and no major change, why upgrade? Just my opinion. :)
[Nexus 4 General] axlrvx:
Because I'm poor.
[Nexus 4 General] kimerawph2:
Because here in Brazil the Nexus 5 is very expensive yet. About twice the price of Nexus 4.
[Nexus 4 General] prog19:
Simply lack of money :)

I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive :)

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Yes. Thats right. Maybe in the black fiday it wil be at a more reasonable price

I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive :)
[Nexus 4 General] BlackMaster1991:
Just because the Nexus 4 is more awesome than the Nexus 5 design. It is just a simple phone as all the others. Nexus 4 is well designed.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] theorlyowl:
N4 is way sexier. Glass back > rubber-ish finish.
[Nexus 4 General] mandhir.s.bajwa:
Nexus 5 is not a worthy upgrade from Nexus 4. real life performance is still at par with best of the best in the market and then I have not found anything which I'm missing on n4, so why upgrade?
[Nexus 4 General] midnight911:
Nexus 4 was about 450 USD in my country, and Nexus 5 was about 550 USD. That feeling when you need monthly salary for a budget smartphone :silly:
[Nexus 4 General] dppow:
Because I have no money that's why :)
[Nexus 4 General] shahkam:
I use it for work purposes and it just does everything i need it to do...

No lags,crashes and the specs aren't that bad for the price i paid specially...

Quite surprised coming from a gs3,

So to wrap it up it just works fine!:)
[Nexus 4 General] Flipz77:
Same purchase history as you man, I got a real bargain for a new 16gb n4 just before the 5th was released, not so easy here in Italy.

Moreover, I think the battery is better proportioned on the n4. 2300 mAh on a snap800 and a 5" FHD screen (over-resoluted, 720p is just fine) just didn't sound good to me, and the size of the thing scared me a bit given that I always use silicone cases and the n5 would have gotten as big as a damn fridge. The only real advantage on the latest "n" is the 32gb option, but heck, cloud services (with our extra 10gb on Drive :D) are there for a reason.
[Nexus 4 General] prog19:
Size is a thing that worries me in all flagships now

I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive :)
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
The n4 does everything the n5 does..

Just root it and you're golden.
[Nexus 4 General] kamranhaghighi:
because nexus 4 looks cool, and its just good enough, i will upgrade to nexus 6 or nexus 8 soon, i could wait, and my phone is still awesome !

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its also fast enough, only thing that is worth upgrading is screen and camera, (not that n5 is bad, its freaking awesome, best phone of planet for me!) i dont really use camera, but i really care about screen !!! but i guess its worth waiting for n6 or n8, anyway the old big pixels of n4 give me a good feeling ! also it looks awesome :P
[Nexus 4 General] blttalas:
My father dont want to buy n5 to me :(
[Nexus 4 General] prog19:
N5 have a always listening core like Moto X ? For minimize battery drain of the hotword detection ?

I'm a Brazilian without English Course, sorry and be comprehensive :)
[Nexus 4 General] napyaninja:
Coz it is the sexiest phone on the planet !
[Nexus 4 General] Saikou0taku:
Waterproofness was the main reason.

At this point, the N5 is pointless for me, especially since the N4 is already overpowered for my texting, web browsing, and calling needs. I'm not a mobile gamer, and the screen size/dpi is NBD to me (although I have found a few moments i wished it was sharper XD)

I used to be a tech enthusiast, upgrading and sidegrading for as fast and as cheap as I could. But now, I've reached the point where all I want is better battery life and waterproofness.
[Nexus 4 General] PhoenixMike:
Form factor and feel. I loved the curved edges.
[Nexus 4 General] republicano:
thats is where we at now, performance and screen size is enough for mobiles but battery/efficiency is still not where consumers expect, now the focus is on these things to try differentiate from the market.

i was still thinking about the n5 even though the n4 is still good,not having google play i cant get it at that price, with more devices going under the AOSP its better to wait to see what android L has to offer with system optimization.
[Nexus 4 General] Flipz77:
Big pixels? :eek: Either you have an amazing eyesight or a very poor one :confused:
[Nexus 4 General] mtnlion:
The n4 runs everything I've thrown at it flawlessly. I'm happy with the looks camera etc. The only reasons I may upgrade anytime soon would be it dies or they issue a nexus with a SD slot or 64gb. I bought my wife a Galaxy S5 and I still prefer my n4.
[Nexus 4 General] Luzitano:
Because the Nexus 4 is a great phone. Nothing against who changes phones every year, but to pay more than 100$ of diference just to go from a quad 1.5ghz to 2.2 makes absolutely no sense to me. I use my phone for everything except for gaming and the Nexus 4 is more than capable of handling anything i throw at it, im not dying if an aplication takes 0.5 seconds more to open or process something.
[Nexus 4 General] ovu85:
it's a beautiful phone, it has good hardware and i find it smaller and more handy than the N5
[Nexus 4 General] deadpunk:
Because its an awesome phone and has lots of different os & roms to try out. I'm keeping it for ubuntu touch.

I skipped the n5 and bought the htc m8 since it delivers better sound and has sd card support. Now i can bring all my music with me.
[Nexus 4 General] Zehlek:
Can't afford to buy another phone [emoji24]
[Nexus 4 General] Roastmeat:
I was actually surprised the N5 got released, seeing how the N4 still had hype and was still considered a very good phone at the time.

Why I didnt switch:

- Performance wasn't an issue, even now. Phones get more powerful but with less battery life for little to no increase in user experience

- No way I'm upgrading to a phone bigger than the N4, its big enough. Im really hating this trend, I dont want to walk around with my pocket full

- I got it mid spring, so it was still new to me, and getting the N5 would actually cost more money and time
[Nexus 4 General] Raiden350:
For me, the reason is pretty simple: money :)

But i also truly love the N4 !
[Nexus 4 General] sajjad1818:
Interesting

Of course Money is the main issue ...

We definitely believe that nexus 5 is better than n4
[Nexus 4 General] alanwyl:
Mainly for the looks. The curved edges on the sides of the screen and the glass back beats the S800.
[Nexus 4 General] strra:
I kept my Nexus 4 because I haven't run into anything yet that it can't do that the Nexus 5 can (besides 4G).

That being said, I think the phone is nearing retirement because I believe there's a hardware issue with the camera focus.

When I take a picture, sometimes you'll hear the mechanical focus making CLACK CLACK sounds (you can even feel it), then the phone freezes and reboots.

This happens across different ROMs.

I don't plan to go to a Nexus 5 yet, though. I'm hoping my phone will make it til Fall and I can either get the Nexus 5 for cheap or a Nexus 6 (or whatever they decide to do)
[Nexus 4 General] PhoenixMike:
I had the same issue with mine. Think it turned out to be related to the LTE radios somehow... Idk.
[Nexus 4 General] wolfen69:
As someone mentioned before, you can tell the difference between the N4 and N5. I Get why someone would stay with the N4, no dout. But to say there's no difference is ridiculous. The N5 is 800mhz faster. Plus has a faster gpu. Don't get me wrong, I love the N4, but yeah, the N5 is faster. 800 mhz does make a difference. It's just snappier. But by no means am I saying the N4 sucks. I use it half the time.

Go ahead and bash me.
[Nexus 4 General] kankanmeli:
Nexus 5 is just nexus 4+

I've been using my nexus 4 for quite sometime now, and i do use it to its limits. But never do i feel a lag or the terrible feeling of the phone being underpowered. It suffices all my gaming needs as well. Even the most graphic intensive games run without a hitch.

Additionally i'm running android 4.4 C-ROM, android "L", ubuntu touch, firefox OS, Jolla Sailfish OS and windows XP (via VM) on my nexus 4 with multiple boot options. So giving up this level of customization is pretty hard for me.:cowboy:
[Nexus 4 General] boltthrower56:
I was gonna switch to N5 but i said to hell with it and bought a brand new R9 280x. I had a HD6950 , it was getting old. Then i did a big networking job , i was gonna replace it but i dropped a big hammer on my floor ceramics , got them all messed up. My fiancee got me to replace all of them. I had just enough money to buy it , if i sold my old one but i dropped it and cracked the screen while doing the floors. Dust gets that thing slippery. Then i let it go. Waiting for the N6 or Silver , whatever.
[Nexus 4 General] fahadsul3man:
i am not a spec whore , thus i decided to stay with n4, n5 is technically n4 on steroids , the only thing which sounded attractive was camera performance which again turned out to be mediocre that as well as battery life so yeah waiting for the next nexus phone
[Nexus 4 General] opssemnik:
? the n4 is now hard to find and when you do, its more expensive!

->

http://www.kabum.com.br/cgi-local/s...m=COMPARADOR&gclid=CNO6_Y3V1L8CFXNo7AodWRwA8w (nexus 5)

-> http://www.submarino.com.br/produto...00_go_G22006&gclid=CI2c0oXV1L8CFaVZ7AodNEoAog (nexus 4)

Now for my answer to topic. i would continue with my n4, hower it broke and since buying an n4 right now in brazil is more expensive and hard than a n5, i gone for the n5, altoght i like the design of the n4 more, and its customizations avalaible (the n5 is almost a year old, yet only the mainstream roms and one or two another are avalaible for it, the n4 even haves sailfish os, official ubuntu, stable firefox, etc...)
[Nexus 4 General] Shooting Star Max:
I don't really need a new phone. My Nexus 4 is like only 10 months old, so I have no problems. Also, I don't have the money to buy a Nexus 5.

I think I'll wait two more Nexus devices and then I'll reconsider.
[Nexus 4 General] iDon't:
For me the reason to stay with Nexus 4 was battery life, that is almost the same as is on Nexus 5 (no improvement). Other improvements on 5 aren't a big deal for me, because I use camera very rare, LTE is still limited in my country, screen is almost the same width on both 4 & 5, so the only improvement for me was S800, and that's not enough for me. + design of 4 is way nicer than Nexus 5.
[Nexus 4 General] amitb96:
Only reason for me was money. The difference wasn't worth the cash.
[Nexus 4 General] tachno:
the only thing I really miss is unpowered usb-otg. but there is no other feature another highend mobile has I would miss, except waterproofness.

I would not buy samsung again because of the very expensive replacement lcds and their restrictive software handling.

some sony mobiles are waterproof, but the lcd crack very easily and there is no such thing like vanilla android :(

so why should i change?
[Nexus 4 General] axlrvx:
That is not a big change, and the Nexus 5 is ugly as hell xD
[Nexus 4 General] wolfen69:
I disagree, but you're entitled to your opinion. I think my red N5 is darn good looking. But so is the N4. I like both.
[Nexus 4 General] GaspRulez:
Not enough money and not enough differences, I think to change my N4 with the N6, but I have to see that phone :/
[Nexus 4 General] rtk19:
Because N4 is AWESOME!
[Nexus 4 General] Danny.ns:
I didnt see much upgrade in the N5. The thing i love about the nexus phones is that the software is updated even for the older phones. The snapdragon 800 seemed like a nice upgrade, but i have played alot with xperia Z1 (s800) and htc one m8 (s801) and the difference in performance is not noticable in regular UI usage. Same with the 1080p display, i cannot tell any difference whatsoever.

What I did want from an upgrade was better batterylife - and reviews at the time didnt show any good results for the N5. I would also like a bigger screen (5.2-5.5 range perhaps), but even the 5" of the N5 was very tempting for me. In the end though the price didnt warrant the 0.3" screen size upgrade for me.

So here I am waiting for "N6" instead. Hoping for better battery and even larger screen ^_^
[Nexus 4 General] Mr.lol:
There is at least two reasons for me. One being that my n4 works and I don't see a huge performance boost in the n5.

The other being that I don't have money for it :(
[Nexus 4 General] GaspRulez:
Because I wanna buy the LG G2 [emoji7]
[Nexus 4 General] alpha-niner64:
Battery life on the N5 is not any better than the N4: which is a disappointment considering it's an S800. If the next Nexus has just as bad battery life, then I will be holding onto the older Nexus devices that longer(including the N4 and Gnex). At least the Gnex had a viable solution(removable battery).
[Nexus 4 General] KoJIeCo56:
it is the most beautiful device I've ever seen! how can I leave it, when I took it primarily because of his appearance.

just look on these lines - they are awesome! even iPhone 5 can't be compared!
[Nexus 4 General] Claudisimo:
Because I have no money.

I'm gonna wait for nexus 6 (rumors say that it will come with 3000mah battery... hope that's true) because maybe it will go out soon (I don't think more than a year from now), however, I would bought nexus 5 some time ago because of the battery. Despite of what people say, I've used it and I know that it lasts longer (much longer).
[Nexus 4 General] dadam30:
Actually I was waiting to the Nexus 6 but if it's a 5.9 i will may be by a 5 when on sales...
[Nexus 4 General] Ltdrev:
I did have the G2 ... sold it for less than a new 32gb N5

I have kept my beloved N4 as backup bought two N5's and no regrets for the G2!

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To my eyes N5 is looking like a champ any colors and it is so serviceable and pretty sturdy despite the look to me that's good desing too...
[Nexus 4 General] macallik:
There is nothing exceptionally necessary in the N5 vs the N4 for my needs. Also, I got the N4 because it was a good combination of price and quality. I want to get my money's worth and then some out of the phone
[Nexus 4 General] mELIANTE:
My Nexus 4 was less than a year old when the Nexus 5 came out and it was and still is a mighty machine. I decided to wait for the next Nexus but if the fabled Shamu is the only Nexus phone coming out then I might get a red Nexus 5 when the price drops, probably next month like what happened with the Nexus 4...

Too bad Shamu is supposed to be a 5.9" whale :(
[Nexus 4 General] eric_son:
...because my wife gave a stern frown when I casually mentioned that the Nexus5 was coming out. I've had my N4 for just over a year at that time. :)
[Nexus 4 General] cammykool:
Because i just bought my Nexus 4!
[Nexus 4 General] Ltdrev:
Same here but I sneaked the first N5 in and the second went in like butter when I offered it to her ... I knew the "shiny red" effect would dissipate and she'd eventually return to her big screen note , now I got two N5!! Moohahaha :cool:
[Nexus 4 General] illumanati22:
Bought iPhone 5

So no money left of n5
[Nexus 4 General] ananas93:
well because, before they start selling nexus 5 they cut price for nexus 4, and yes i was in process to buying new phone