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[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
About 1st edit. Yeah it does. And really shows some improvements in what lag concerns.

2nd edit. You're at school?? Man, I thought you were an old man like me! :D

Jk, I couldn't care less about your age. ;)

3rd edit. I never said it would bring more speed. What it does is increase responsiveness. Mainly of the ram. You'll be pleased to know that although I have all those apps turned on we now have more ram available all the time. Making the apps run smoothly. On need for speed most wanted, the loading times are almost lightning. Also on NOVA 3 and modern combat 4 and 5.

Whatever way you test antutu , by using gltools it will score 50 thousand, but that's a cheat. Or using performance gov. It will always remain the same or worse. Because they've changed the rules. They now use the estimates everyone so kindly have sent them over the years to calculate an average result. Before, they tested your machine thoroughly in real time and then give you the result... That's why every machine out there got increases in the list. I have a phone that jumped from 17 thousand to 22 thousand...

Oh well, there's always 3DMark.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Yep, I'm in school. 10th grade.

The tablet definitely has been snappier since I applied the Dalvik mods, so I'm happy about that.

Antutu must've gotten tricky. Lovely. :(
[MeMO Pad 7 General] pardsbane:
Hello, I'm trying to use this method to upgrade my me176cx from WW .158 to WW .182, which I downloaded from the Asus site. The process works until the point that the phone reboots, at which point it says something like "installing system update", then the screen flashes and it shows an Android and the text "Error" and thats it.

After a few seconds the tablet reboots and I'm back to where I started.

I had previously used "System App Safe Remover" to remove a bunch of apps, but I restored them all before trying the update.

Normally when I try and boot into recovery I get the error "No command." I assume this is because /cache/recovery/command is missing, but I'm not sure if that is normal or not.

Is there anyway to debug what could be wrong during the update? Is a log file written or anything? Any suggestions would be appreciated,

thanks.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
When you get the "no command" just press volume up and down at the same time to access the recovery menu.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] slayeralive:
me176c

post here your log file located in cache/recovery
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Hag77:
I finally got around to installing Greenify/xposed.. It's hibernating pretty much everything but I still didn't get great improvements over night (wifi is on, bluetooth, gps off). I only have the free version which doesn't allow you to hibernate system apps.. It's not suggesting any of my user apps are causing wakes. For those of you having good success with greenify- did you get the full version and tinker with hibernating system apps?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
Personally I've used titanium backup pro which is paid when it comes to hibernate/freeze an app. But I'm sure you can find a facsimile on the play store.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
+1 for Titanium Backup Pro. It's an amazing program. Worth every penny.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Hag77:
I've actually got Titanium pro installed and have many of the bloatware and unneeded apps frozen. While it's nice to have those missing from my app drawer, etc it didn't really have much effect on battery drain. That's when I decided to give greenify a shot due to the idea that it forces deep sleep and prevents apps from waking it up. Well, I guess in the case of this tablet it must be a system app that is still waking it up- because I still lost about 10-15% battery overnight.. I'm wondering if installing the pro version and letting it detect/stop system apps from waking it up would be the solution. I guess for a few bucks it's worth a try just wanted to see if any others here had success with greenify and if so what all did you do? At the end of the day I know I can always use airplane mode to get the best standby battery life, it just kind of sucks that I have to do that.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] pardsbane:
Thanks for the tip. Here is the relevant part of the last_log file. Looks like the signature is bad, either its a bad download or something else is up.

I downloaded the firmware again (file name "ME176C-WW-3_2_23_182.zip") and verified the size was the same as the original download. Am I supposed to rename this file directly to "update.zip", or extract it and use the use the zip file inside it as update.zip?

Let me know if there is anything else I should check:

I:Install package /data/update.zip

Finding update package...

I:Update package location: /data/update.zip

Opening update package...

I:read key e=65537 hash=20

I:1 key(s) loaded from /res/keys

Verifying update package...

E:end of footer from /data/update.zip not 0xFFFF (File exists)

I:verify_file returned 1

E:signature verification failed

E:Install of /data/update.zip failed with status 2

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Turns out that was the problem. The install seems to be going smoothly, although the progress bar has been stuck around 25% for the last 5 minutes and that has me nervous, at least it says "Installing system update..." and that is a good sign.

For anyone else who is trying to do a manual firmware installation (ie sideload), here are slightly updated instructions:

its a little complicated because when you try to sideload the ww version it gives error for not having enough space. So you need to put the firmware in a place where you have enough space, and then give the recovery tool a command to install the zip from that location.

Here is how to do it:

1. root with rootzenfone.apk

2. turn on usb debugging

3. download ww rom and unzip it. Inside you will find another .zip file.

4. Take the inner zip file (named something like "UL-K013-WW-3.2.23.182-user.zip" and rename it update.zip

4. download es or some other file menager that has root access.

5. go to / (root) and manually copy update.zip to /data folder (so you should have /data/update.zip)

6. open ADB and type line by line:

adb shell

su

echo 'boot-recovery ' > /cache/recovery/command

echo '--update_package=/data/update.zip' >> /cache/recovery/command

echo '--wipe_cache' >> /cache/recovery/command

echo 'reboot' >> /cache/recovery/command

reboot recovery

Note: I also removed the 'adb remount' command - this fails with a permission error and doesn't seem to be necessary, according to the adb help this only remounts /system and /vendor. These are not written to by the above instructions, so the step is useless anyway.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] reubenskelly1992:
I also put command file from original unbrick thread into cache/recovery. Seemed to do the trick. Didnt work first time:)

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So did the updates come in automatically once reverted back or did you have to update manually? Mines saying its up to date when its on 182:(
[MeMO Pad 7 General] slayeralive:
Me176

Sory for my mistakes but when i bricked my device nobody had a solution.

After 3 days without sleep i finaly got it and i hellped many people
[MeMO Pad 7 General] pardsbane:
No need to apologize, your post definitely got me started! Thank you!

I have the same issue, the tablet doesn't recognize there is an update available. Is there any way to force it to update? This all started a few days ago because my tablet DID say there was an automatic update, but it wouldn't apply it.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Rinfinite:
Can anyone be so kind as to confirm if Chain Chronicle and Brave Frontier will run on this tablet without issues? About to buy this tablet just for those 2 games.

Thanks!
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
I haven't tested myself, but when looking at the reviews of the games coming from this model they appear to work perfectly.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Rinfinite:
Thanks. I went ahead and got the tablet anyway. I still have it charging so I haven't gotten to testing anything yet.

Can I use a regular 5v charger? I noticed that the stock charger of this tablet is 5.2v. I'd like to use my G3's charger if I can.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
It will work fine, but be advised that the increased amperage will reduce overall battery life.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Rinfinite:
Thanks for the info. I'll just use the stock charger then.

Yesterday, I seemed to have the battery drain problem everyone else is experiencing. I was losing battery % without doing anything, around 1% every 10 minutes or less. I went to sleep this morning with 40% left and woke up with 15%. I played some Brave Frontier until the tablet shutdown itself and charged it until full. Now the battery drain problem seems to be gone. In the past hour I haven't lost even 1%! I installed Betterbatterystats and looks like my tablet is going into deep sleep now.

And just in case anyone else has the same question I did about Brave Frontier and Chain Chronicle, they do run on this tablet, and beautifully I must say. They run better on this tablet than they do on my LG G3 and my brother's Nvidia tablet, in fact.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Which Nvidia tablet? The SHIELD or the Tegra Note? If it's the former I am officially impressed with this chip (not that I wasn't before).
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
Same here. I'm 3 weeks, 2 days and 9 hours from purchasing the Shield Tablet. If indeed this SoC is "da man" I'm abandoning that thought. :D
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Rinfinite:
I believe it's the Shield. I remember him saying it has the K1 chipset. He was actually the one who pointed out the performance difference between my tablet and his. He asked what kind of magic this tablet has. :victory:

It could be a simple optimization issue with the game so I wouldn't straight out say that the ME176CX is better than the Shield, but if it's just Brave Frontier, then I would definitely pick this over the Shield. My brother is a bit stingy with his gadgets so I don't think I can borrow it to do more comparisons in other areas. I also bought the LG G Pad 7.0 last week and it ran my games like crap. :( Sold it 4 days after and got this instead.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
This thing beats the Shield tablet? Holy crap!

I WANT TO SEE THIS THING WITH 2 GIGS OF RAM. That would fly! I know Asus has a version of this with 2 gb but I'm waiting to see what they have to offer at late 2015 to upgrade. I'm thinking of sticking with Intel processors, seeing how capable these things are (well, that and the fact that this seems to be more capable than the K1 based on your report with half the price). Minus the locked bootloader they are amazing.

I highly doubt Brave Frontier is optimized for Intel Atom processors. More than likely it is running through Intel's ARM layer which slows things down a bit.

If that is the case, then this is definitely "da man" [MENTION=2685592]bravesoul[/MENTION] :)

The K1 doesn't have any "perks" yet (enhanced graphics, see Shadowgun THD/Dead Trigger/Riptide GP for Tegra 3 and Dead Trigger 2/Riptide GP 2 for Tegra 4), and with the X1 on the horizon I don't know if it ever will.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] chuy409:
I have an nvidia shield tablet. I can run any tests if you want. Yea, that little atom is a beast of a chip. I was going to buy this tablet instead of the shield but somehow chose the shield instead. My friend has this asus tablet. and i can definitely say the bloatware definitely slows it down. Clash of clans when scrolling, is really choppy. Its not as smooth as my shield. I dont know if it has to do with the bloatware. After rooting, which things should i remove? I know someone said asus web storage definitely speeds it up. Any other ones?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Rinfinite:
Is anyone able to reach 4+ hours of battery life on this tablet? I'm sitting on 25% battery left with only 3 hours and 15 minutes of screen-on time. A little less than 2 hours of that is gaming with brightness set to lowest. I'm wondering if I should exchange this for another unit since I have 2 days of replacement warranty left.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Rinfinite:
Well, I've managed to squeeze out a little more from that 25% left. 4 hours and 5 minutes of screen-on time, a little over 2 hours of BF and CC gaming in total, God knows what I did with the other 2 hours lol. I think I'll just keep this unit.

BF runs on this tablet pretty well even with the CPU downclocked to 1Ghz so I think I'll keep it that way for the moment and see if I can see a significant increase in battery life.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
You can remove only Google apps. DO NOT REMOVE THE SO CALL BLOATWARE OF ASUS. You'll brick your tablet. There's a workaround but takes patience. All you can do is freeze ASUS apps. Try titanium backup or go backup. Anyway. You've been warned. ;)
[MeMO Pad 7 General] hkpro94:
Hello All:

I'm trying to get Xposed to work and I need a way to downgrade from my lastest system update. Any Ideas?

I have a rooted Asus Memo Pad 7 (Me176cx) 4.4.2 with Build number: KVT49L.WW_MemMO_Pad-11.2.3.18.2-20141024
[MeMO Pad 7 General] acavan:
Why would you downgrade? I have Xposed working on .201

I don't recommend to install Greenify module, though.

Xposed modules working here:

Gravity box: some functions work, others don't.

App Settings: OK!

Enable Battery_Stats for KitKat: OK!

Youtube AdAway: OK

XmultiWindow: Doesn't work.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
Yup! Those are the ones. I think that list was made by jerbear. All credits go to him for that brilliant time taking research.

But remember. Some are Google apps. Those can (and should) be uninstalled. All except Google play store, Google services and Google chrome. For some weird reason, when we uninstall Google play store, and reinstall it, it will not work again. :P
[MeMO Pad 7 General] chuy409:
There, i froze all those apps using link2sd. I can definitely notice a difference. Still, though, clash of clans is still choppy when moving around the base. I think i came to th conclusion that its the gpu inside the 176cx that is making choppy like that. I went over to the new memo pad 7 thread with the new moorefield cpu and someone asked if clash of clans was choppy in that new asus tablet, they said no. And the funny thing is that new asus has a powervr gpu or something like that, which has been in apple phones before, so thats why it rums smooth. All this time i thought it was the cpu. Dont know why clash of clans doesnt run well on intel hd graphics.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
Really weird. Because the 544 series usually goes up to 500 mhz of speed, tops! But it's in another instruction based chip. Perhaps that's the reason. Anyways, thx for the info.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Have you tried GLTools?

Try forcing the app to think that it is running on PowerVR. If it's optimized for it it should run better. Forcing Asphalt 8 on my old Tegra 3 tablet to think it was PowerVR worked wonders.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] coilbone:
photo recovery

Hey guys. I deleted some of my photos accidentally on my tablet and none of the recovery apps helped me so far. I cant connect my tablet to pc as USB Mass Storage, therefore i cant use programs like Recuva on my pc to recover.

Any ideas?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Dumpster helped me in a similar scenario with a few songs.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
It's risky and it might not work. But I believe there's a way. You need to rewrite the build.prop.

Make a routine to recognize the tablet as "mass_storage" and not "mtp". Use Rom toolbox pro. In the performance tab, use the build.prop editor. Locate the mtp and add "mtp,mass_storage". That should do the trick. Immediately after adding the commands, reboot the tablet. But I say again, this is a risky procedure. It may soft brick your tablet. And if that occurs, there will be no way to save your photos, at all. At least none that I know of.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
I second this. Just do a Nandroid and you shouldn't get burned.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] coilbone:
I couldnt find anything about MTP at build.prop?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] bravesoul:
What ROM are you at? .161, .182, .201?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] e4404:
I had installed the tablet in my car for tuning and dash display -. The only complicated bit is how to turn it on if the battery goes flat.

The idea is that bablet automatically turn onas soon as it's plugged in to charge.

Any ideas? Anyone done this already?

Thanks and sorry for my bad english.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] kvegeta:
Hi guys...i'm having some problem with this tablet...No root and nothing special installed (some few games and not much more) but is REALLY too laggy to use...

Sw WW-3.2.23.201

Often, when i unlock the device i have to wait 3 or 4 seconds before the home screen come and light up...in the following moment i cannot open chrome or any app because it take tooooo many time to visualize.... :(

OK... is a 1gb ram device...but is almost unusable in this way :/

Yet done a settings factory reset but after some days and some app reinstalled, same problem...
[MeMO Pad 7 General] chuy409:
You should what i did. Rooted the tablet and use an app that freezes apps like link2sd or titanium backup. Then you can freeze the apps i quoted a page earlier from this post. Some users say and I have tried it personally to be safe to freeze. Tablet is notable more smoother. This is possibly the best we can do until we can get some custom roms.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Just adding to this: a few pages back [MENTION=2685592]bravesoul[/MENTION] lists a couple of Dalvik mods he did that frees more ram, and mentions another lag fixing method.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Hag77:
I had read some good things about greenify (w/ root) and this tablet so I gave it a go and did auto-hibernate and selected several apps.. Initially I didn't think it was doing much but after a day or so it did seem to be helping the standby battery life. Unfortunately- after a recent reboot, things went bad. Tablet started boot looping about 30 seconds after unlocking the screen- I dunno if it was an app I had hibernated or if it was a combination of using both greenify to hibernate and titanium pro to freeze. I figured I could get away with running both apps since TB freezes apps to the point where they don't even show up on the tablet anymore, whereas greenify just hibernates the app until you open it.. Anyways, I could not get the boot loops to stop until I uninstalled greenify.. Sucks because battery life did seem to be improving.. Maybe I will give it another go and just have it hibernate less apps.. Anyone else running TB and greenify at the same time w/o issues?
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
This is a known issue. Greenify and Xposed don't mix on this tablet.

Just don't activate the Xposed module and you should be fine.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] acavan:
Well, yes, that's why I didn't recommend to use greenify. I also entered a boot loop when activating it's xposed module, and was difficult to deactivate it because most of the times the tablet rebooted before I could enter de Xposed app to do it.

Cya.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Hag77:
Thanks for clarifying guys.. It's a shame because I really like the idea behind it and had started to see some good battery benefits.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
Apps reload when switching...

Hey all,

Not sure why I didn't ask this before (just been putting up with it), but on this tablet, switching between apps seems to involve the app restarting more than picking up where it left off.

The main app I have this issue with is Angry Birds Epic. When I played Epic on my previous tablet (Acer A100), I could leave Epic, do other stuff, then come back and Epic was still up. Same for other apps.

Now, I realize Epic has gotten to be a bloated sow in recent months, but it seems like most apps on my ASUS tablet will restart when I switch back to them rather than just pick up where they left off from. Is that because of the ASUS's low RAM situation (1 GB)? Because of bloatware? Is there anything I can do to help with this? As it stands, if I am playing Epic and accidentally bring up the "home" screen (Nova Launcher), going back to Epic almost always results in a restart of the game (that's just going to the home screen -- not even another app!). That's pretty annoying, especially if I am in the middle of a ten-wave battle that takes 20 minutes...Epic starts it over.

Does anyone else see this sort of thing, and can anything be done about it? At this point it is almost like the tablet isn't multi-process at all. Might as well be running DOS. *smile*

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] Hag77:
I posted about this a while back and didn't get any response.. But yes, I absolutely experience this. It might have got a little better since I rooted and froze some bloatware apps, but I need a little more testing... For me- it was so bad that, as an example- I'd be reading an e-book in kindle app, switch over to browser to check a single website, switch back to kindle and it would totally have to reload the kindle app rather than being on the page I left it on. Then I have to go back to my last bookmark, etc. Pretty ridiculous really. I'll do some additional testing now that I have a bunch of stuff frozen and report back any findings.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
I have a fair number of things frozen as well...

What is the best (preferably free) tool for analyzing how much RAM various processes are eating up? I suppose I could look and see how much things are taking up, and perhaps that would show that Epic simply takes up so much RAM that it can't afford to pack itself away when switching between apps. I'm not sure how all that works.

The funny thing is that when I had to play Epic on my iPhone 4 for a while, the iPhone would get laggy but Epic felt the need to restart far less even as I bopped over to check my mail or go to settings. I don't have empirical numbers in front of me, but it seemed like I could go back to Epic where I left off at least half the time. It never happens that way on my MemoPad.

Thanks,

sutekh137
[MeMO Pad 7 General] jerbear294:
Epic doesn't reboot on the iPhone because iOS doesn't do proper multitasking. It caches the app in memory, frozen until you need it, similar to emulator savestates.

I'm thinking if somebody made an Xposed module that replicates this behavior, the tablet would fly. Granted you would lose running processes in the background but this is a special case.
[MeMO Pad 7 General] sutekh137:
Well, whatever iOS 7 does, I prefer it. :cyclops:

Thanks,

sutekh137

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Hey all,

A tiny little free app called Memory Usage does just what it says... At first I thought it was only showin gthe memory of background tasks, and that was when I realized Angry Birds Epic (ABE) had already been taken out of memory. I fired up Bad Piggies, and there it was -- and I could go back to it. Fired up the original Angry Birds, and Bad Piggies disappeared from the memory list while AB appeared. Going back to Bad Piggies caused it to restart.

Closed everything and started ABE. Went over to Memory Usage and it showed ABE in the list, finally. Peak memory usage of 205MB and a current of 179MB. Went to the desktop, back to Memory Usage, and ABE was gone. Tried to switch to ABE and it restarted.

So, I really think this is just a matter of limited RAM and a big app. I can only assume the same thing would have happened with my Acer A100, as it only had 1GB of RAM as well (incidentally, the newer version of the Acer Iconia One 7 inch tablet is running for $99.99 right now at Target and Amazon -- not too bad...) Then again, I had Cyanogen'd the Acer, so it was probably running quite a bit cleaner.

Well, I've frozen all I can, and even off a fresh restart, ABE simply cannot run in a way that I can switch to other apps (or even just to the desktop) and go back to it without it restarting. I'll be sure to get a tablet with more RAM next time! Any thoughts on whether or not Lollipop will fare better in this regard?

Thanks,

sutekh137