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[Moto 360] EnIXmA:
2nd day using the 360 and the battery has been phenomenal....

Took it off charger at 8 am with ambient mode on, just came back home at 3am in the night and the watch just died... Had a fairly long day with moderate usage and the other watch lasted me 19 hours with ambient on.... No complains
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Nice reports... but I think I might just take the "ambient on" record: 36h 45m to 20%

You can really see it drain when I'm wearing it, the flat gaps are when I'm sleeping.

A really interesting thing I found:

Ambient on after the update still beat every test I did before the update!
[Moto 360] mk92595:
Off the charger 5 hours ago. Battery's at 81%.

Less than 4% an hour!
[Moto 360] SCHMANKii:
Hey guys!

I created a poll concerning the battery life. I would be happy if you participated to have a better overview :)
[Moto 360] HankB:
My Nexus 5 (4.4.4) lists the 360 under paired devices and also puts a line in the notifications.

I have a bluetooth heart rate monitor and that I do not pair with the phone but rather the apps that use it seem to connect directly. Perhaps 4.4.3 or the HTC does that.
[Moto 360] gsusx:
off charger at 10am ... 8pm that night with a fair bit of usage and still have 62% left, delighted to be honest as i genuinely thought it wouldnt last nearly as long ...
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
I'm on the second day where I've paid attention, and so far, battery life is pretty abysmal compared to what others are reporting.

I'm on the latest firmware, and the watch has been reset after the firmware update. Ambient mode is disabled.

The watch was fully-charged when I took it off the charger at 11:30am this morning. After a day of light to (maybe just) moderate use (the most significant thing being a 5-mile walk with Runtastic, but with no navigation so the watch itself was mostly idle with the screen off), I am at 22% remaining at 9:00pm.

That's 78% drain in 9.5 hours, or 8.2% an hour. There is very little aftermarket software installed on the watch -- only Android Wear Mini Launcher, Runtastic, and Tip Calculator. I'm using a stock watch face (Minimal) and using Auto brightness control. And as already mentioned, Ambient mode is off as I find it totally worthless anyway.

Thus far, I'm pretty unimpressed with the battery life of this thing on the latest firmware. It's just *barely* able to make it through a day of light use (12 hours, 10 minutes at the current rate of drain), and if I hadn't gotten such a late start it simply wouldn't even last the day.

I really, really hope it changes, but it's going to have to change radically to be usable.
[Moto 360] vegabyson:
After installing the update and doing a factory reset I got over 30hrs with out charging and using facer
[Moto 360] DeoreDX:
Bone stock no apps running. Slow Sunday so not a lot of notifications. 10am to 10:30pm and I'm at 69%. I average around 2.5% drain per hour since I've gotten my 360 last week.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
To follow this up, I ended the day with 9% battery life remaining at about 1am, so 91% drain in 13.5 hours.

That's 6.7% drain per hour, skewed downwards by the fact the watch was barely used in the last 4 hours. Perhaps 6 alerts from Facebook and one alarm set on the watch itself went off. Net total of perhaps 40 seconds of screen on time, and other than that I was basically stationary in front of the TV or my laptop for 98% of that time.

So even in the last 4 hours where the watch was almost unused, drain was 13% in 4 hours, or 3.25% per hour. That's close to double the drain some others are claiming in active use, and my watch was barely used, never more than a few feet from my phone which supports Bluetooth LE, is on the latest firmware, wiped, and had active mode disabled.

Short of setting the phone to the lowest brightness setting and removing the only three apps I have that work with it, there is nothing I can do to improve battery life.

I am mystified why my battery life is 2-4 times lower than others are claiming. So far, it is downright lousy.
[Moto 360] similogic:
Try something: set your screen brightness to 1 and see if there is any noticeable improvement to your battery life after which.
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
So what effect does phone usage, wireless or such have on the 360's battery?

Why do I ask?

During every day usage last week, I was taking the 360 off the charger around 9am, taking it off my wrist and putting it on the night stand at about 11pm with anywhere from 60% to 45% battery, and putting it on the charger the next morning while I got ready for work. (it would have about 30 to 25% when put on the charger, and would be at 100% by the time I put it on my wrist to leave).

Saturday my wife wanted to take our son to the Monster Jam (monster truck show) at the Wells Fargo Center in Philly. Before I left the house, I had the 360 on the charger so it was 100% when I left at 5pm. My VZW Moto X (2013) was charged to 100% too.

Inside the arena, my phone's connection to the Xfinity wifi hotspot was intermittant at best. I often found I was on 4GLTE. Having forgot to disable G+ auto backup, taking videos and pictures drained the phone to nearly 20% by the time we got back out to the car (about 10pm). Even taking pix/video in Disney World didn't drain the X that fast! The 360 by that point was at about 30%!!

We got home about 11pm, I left it on my night stand, and by morning, the 360 was completely dead. That was about 13hrs to dead. That is the shortest run time by far since the latest update. Nearly HALF of what I was seeing.

Yesterday (sunday) while I got up and ready, the 360 charged to 100%. By the time I took it off for bed at about 10:00, it was down to 53%. i.e. back to normal.
[Moto 360] Roscopcoletrain:
Put the watch and mute and see what it does.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
If I set it to 1 I will barely be able to see anything much of the time, which rather defeats the purpose of the watch.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Restart the watch and see if you can get 2-day battery life, if not reset the watch.

It sounds like there is some app that glitched and your watch is using the processor even when screen-off, noone knows what apps do it, it might be wear launcher who knows. But if you get bad battery life, it's because the watch is processing something the whole time.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
As I said, the watch has already been completely reset and there are only three apps that even work with Wear installed. (Tip Calculator, Mini Launcher, and Runtastic.)
[Moto 360] similogic:
i'd set it to one since day 1 and i see fine.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
You must live somewhere a lot less bright than I do. Even with it on auto yesterday, while out for a walk I could barely see anything on the watch face unless I shaded it with my hand.

Decided to see what happens with Ambient mode active today, as if I don't have it set to Ambient mode, at night the display when charging is too bright (which bothers my eyes, and also will be greatly reducing the life of the backlight LED.)

I've been off the charger for one hour, and the watch hasn't been used at all. No alerts, no calls, no app usage, haven't moved from my seat for an hour as I've been busy working. In one hour, I've dropped 5% of charge with a completely idle watch. That suggests with zero usage I could get 20 hours max. at the current rate. Enough for a day, but only if the watch isn't actually used.

We'll see how it pans out over the whole day, though.
[Moto 360] hardtheory:
Try to uninstall these 3 apps. After that restart the watch and see if there is any improvement. If yes, try to reinstall one of your app and see if there is no battery drain. Continue till you have reinstall all your apps. The goal is to detect what app cause this battery drain.

Hope it Will help
[Moto 360] Metallice:
I wouldn't make any assumptions/calculations on expected battery life based on anything between 90 and 100 percent. Usually a device will show much faster drain in this drain since the device usually isn't really starting from 100%. Usually when charging, the device will charge and discharge periodically for battery health. So when you pull it off the charger it may say 100% but really only be at 96%.
[Moto 360] gsusx:
took off at 7am checked battery at 7pm. 56% left

very happy
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
I wouldn't normally either, but it is panning out pretty accurately so far. I've been off the charger for eight hours and am down to 64%, which is 4.5% per hour.

And the interesting is here that I have barely touched the watch at all today. It has been on my wrist in ambient mode, but I have had no calls, no texts / Hangout messages, very few alerts (perhaps 3 or 4 all day), one alarm set on the watch, and one reminder set on the watch. I haven't used any apps, and have barely checked the time. (Perhaps three times all day.) In all, figure less than 45 seconds of usage in that eight hours.

Battery life continues to be dismal so far, in other words. More than double the consumption others are reporting on the same firmware, even if the watch is barely used at all.
[Moto 360] whatnow275:
My battery barely makes it a day and the watch is laggy...not trolling just hoping for a quick fix that doesn't involve sending it back for a replacement. Iove everything else about it
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
I don't find the ui laggy, but the voice recognition is shocking. It will very frequently pop up completely nonsensical searches after being given (and showing on screen) an instruction it recognizes like "remind me in four hours that blah", and also very often starts to listen after an Ok Google and then immediately (half a second later) stops listening for no clear reason. (Not the usual 2-second delay before it stops.)

Just now was a perfect example: it took seven tries to add a simple reminder "Remind me on Saturday to print Geoffrey's book", 4 times stopped half way thru the word remind, and 2 times gave me web searches instead. (But had shown the words " remind me on Saturday to " first.) The final time, it set a reminder but with one word utterly wrong; I just accepted it because I was too frustrated to bother trying another dozen times.

I'm used to Google Now on my phone and that understands me uncannily well. This is the polar opposite.
[Moto 360] daniel_1983x:
Exactly!

I was using the LG G Watch and the voice recognition was as good as the one on my phone

switched to Moto 360 and was shocked by the difference

and it's laggy compared to the G Watch
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
I'm not sure when, but my battery ran out completely at some point tonight in light to (just) moderate usage. I last checked the watch specifically some 8 hours ago, and when I finally finished work and got ready for bed, checked it again to find it off.

So some time between the 8 and 16 hour marks, it died. When, who knows, but this is officially the first time the watch has failed to last me even one full day.
[Moto 360] gsusx:
another day... 12 hours off charger. 60% battery left. Delighted :)
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
To those who get bad battery life:

1) Reset Watch

2) Uninstall all 3rd party wear apps

3) Turn on/Pair Watch

4) Don't install 3rd party wear apps

5) Use stock motorola watchface (yes a custom watch face counts as an app...)

If you still get bad battery life then you can come on and complain about it, but it's common knowledge that the wear app developers are still getting to grips with the 360 and 3rd party apps can cause incredible battery drain if they bug (even after closed and uninstalled)

Every person who has given a bad battery life report had multiple 3rd party apps installed.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
1) Done.

2) Done.

3) Done.

4) The only apps I've had installed are apps others have reported working fine: Mini Launcher, Tip Calculator and Runtastic.

5) Done.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
I use mini launcher, not the other two, but if I was having battery life issues uninstalling mini launcher would have been #1 on my list of things to try...

If you're not willing to try anything different, why would you expect different results?
[Moto 360] lanwarrior:
I don't have bad battery life, but I also don't get the 40+ hours battery life that some have reported. I have to recharge my watch every night. I receive bazillion of notifications and that include emails from 4 different accounts, Dropcam, Google Now, Tapatalk, etc.

I don't use custom face, but I do use apps that have Android Wear version, like Evernote and Sleep as Android. It doesn't make sense for me to uninstall existing apps that i use often on my phone for the sake of the watch battery life.

Furthermore, what is the point of a smartwatch if you cannot install ANY apps or even use the watch such as occasionally reading email?

Seems like a bug in Android Wear and/or Moro 360. Or...those who have tons of battery life rarely use the watch.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
I have tried everything except uninstalling apps that are known to work fine, which you've just ignored.

Are you telling me I should use my $250 smart watch as a $250 dumb watch, in all seriousness?
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
No I just said to try uninstalling apps that are an unknown variable...

Just because other people use them and you are assume they are "known to work fine" doesn't mean anything.

It could be installing one app before the other that drains battery, computer bugs can be anything.

Anyone familiar with the scientific method knows that assuming unknown variables are not influencing the outcome is foolish.

If you want help and advice, I've given you some, but I can't spiritually inhabit your watch and fix it from the inside.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
It's actually been reset since the apps were installed.
[Moto 360] CandyAndy:
On my second day now. First day I had to put my z3 to charger before moto 360.

I went from 7:50am until 11pm and still had 20% left.

I am usually very sceptical about battery life when saying that it's good and for example Sony xperia z3 wasn't THAT good as people are saying (it's still quite ok) but in this case I am positively surprised.

15 hours is enough for me. Of course if I would have gone out partying I might have ended up running out of juice but then I could have had possibility to recharge while changing clothes etc.

---------- Post added at 09:54 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:48 AM ----------

Also it's interesting but voice recognition is as good or even better than the rest of my devices : Nexus 7, Z3, M8 and tablet z.

I guess that Motorola doesnt have very consistent quality coming out of their factory and for once I got lucky.
[Moto 360] Shadowguy:
has been a minute since I have reported back but

took 360 off charger at about 10 this morning currently sitting at 42%

using the dials watchface with alot of 3rd party apps installled.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
61% used today after 14 hours with two apps installed. That's 4.4% an hour, still double what others are reporting. Watch was completely reset and reconfigured early today to no avail. Only Wear Mini Launcher and a watchface were reinstalled. Light to moderate usage.
[Moto 360] someotherguy:
Off charger at 6am yesterday. Light use throughout the day. It's 7am now. 25 hours off charger. 51%.

Only 3rd party app is find my phone.

On another note, not sure on the battery tech, but I don't charge mine until it's under 15% or so typically.
[Moto 360] ThatFrigginAzn:
Has anyone noticed that the watch's battery life decreases as you use your phone? Its like as if the refresh rate is increased when your phone is being used.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Depends what you are doing, if you're configuring wear apps, or have an app that communicates when the phone is on, the phone is just transmitting to the watch more than usual. It can also be an app that does it in the background when the phone is on, so it might be hard to track down.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
After a second day in the last four where the Moto 360 again didn't even manage to make it through a single day's light to light-moderate use (I consider 16 hours -- the time from waking to retiring with eight hours sleep to be a bare minimum; yesterday I managed about 13 hours battery life), I have had no choice but to reset the watch for a fourth time, and this time not to install any apps at all.

I'm pretty disgusted with battery life at this point, I have to admit. Out of the grand total of 4 apps I've used, there is only one common denominator, and it is Wear Mini Launcher, an app almost everybody recommends to use, so I don't honestly believe this test is going to make much if any difference, or everybody would be complaining about battery life.

Since others have recommended so, I have also switched from Auto to level 1 backlighting, the lowest possible, although I am guessing this is going to make little difference too. (It's dimmer outdoors, but also brighter than Auto mode when indoors, so the two will probably cancel out to some extent.)

And since most people are claiming to be getting 2% consumption per hour *with* ambient mode -- which is a complete fairy tale to me -- I've also enabled ambient mode.

To be as fair as possible to the watch, I have also recharged it after resetting. When I took it off the charger at 11:45 today it was at 99% charge. With no usage at all it has already fallen to 94% charge in 40 minutes, but let's see how it does.

If (as I expect) today is yet another failure to come anywhere near these 2% per hour claims, I will be performing one final, scientific test tomorrow. I may even film it and post the results on YouTube, if I can get time to set that up.

Tomorrow's test will involve setting the watch up as per today but leaving it completely stationary on a desk, paired to a phone supporting Bluetooth LE that is less than six inches away, with no apps installed, no customization from defaults except to enable ambient mode (so I can tell when the battery has run out), and with the phone disconnected from both Wi-Fi and mobile data. (So in other words, the watch will receive no alerts at all, will be completely unused and idle all day, and none of its "smart" functionality will even be touched.)

That will provide a figure representing its actual baseline battery life, and even then, I am fully expecting it to struggle to get to 2% per hour.
[Moto 360] bruceo:
I have consistently been getting 3-4%/hr with auto blacklight and stock watchfaces. I have a ton of apps installed and a lot of watchfaces. If I run a custom face I seem to go to about 8-10%/hr. I'll be glad when Google adds watchfaces apis which is a big miss for them not to have in the first place.

No need to reset and run bare that's stupid. My first week was pretty bad but after that and then the update significantly improved battery life. So I would wait for 2 weeks and if the battery doesn't condition up then exchange it or return it. No need to keep belly aching about it. If you can't keep on all the smartwatch features and get through a full day then it needs to go back.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
I can just about get down to 4% if I barely use the thing, but 7-8% is more typical. That's after basically a full week now, on the latest firmware, and reset.

As for running it with no apps, I got flamed earlier in this very thread for not doing so. It's falling to say the least to see others claiming 2% an hour and I can't even get through the day on the latest firmware.

EDIT: Just checked the battery again, incidentally. With no apps installed, ambient on, brightness level one and almost zero use (I've had two notifications, set one reminder, and checked the time maybe twice), I have already gone down 24% in 3.25 hours. That's 7.4% an hour.

This thing is supremely pathetic. I can't believe I am on track to fail to get through the day again, for a third day in five, and this time with the watch as close to unused as is possible without simply leaving it sitting on my desk all day.
[Moto 360] bruceo:
That's not normal for sure. I would exchange it. I'm loaded up and am at 5%hr right now through the peak of the day if it doesn't slow down I have at least 8 more hours which would put me at 20 hrs
[Moto 360] kevinlevrone:
Today (second day with the watch) after 12 hours with ambient mode on I still have 30% battery left. But I used a stock watch face and no other applications installed.
[Moto 360] chrisnewton:
So what exactly is the battery life like.? Is there such a thing as a bad batch? If you have ambient mode off is battery life decent?
[Moto 360] Kuraiba:
Today is my first "full "day with the watch.

I have a pretty weird schedule considering the fact that i'm going to law school but i think it will be more than enough.

`So i unplugged the 360 from it's dock at 10:00, i received like 30 sms this morning, i responded to all of them using voice.

I received a decent amount of notifications (though today was pretty much a quiet day).

Played around with a couple of features that i'm trying to get used to (voice command, web searches etc..)

Used the music controls etc.

I have Evernote installed on the watch, Lyft, a calendar, camera, find my phone and music boss installed.

It's been around 11 hours since then and at the moment i'm at 48%

All of that with ambiant mode off. From the informations that i gathered today, i think when i won't be at the stage of "this is shinny and new anymore" i'll be able to get maybe 2 days of the charger if i have a quiet day, and a day and a half otherwise.

Tomorrow i'll try ambiant mode on, but to be honest i don't really know what's the point of the feature, unless you want to be the center of attention :rolleyes::rolleyes:
[Moto 360] munciefan:
battery life

From my experience using the device (about three weeks) it definitely seems like if you drain the battery down to about 10% or less, the next day's life is amazing. If you don't, the next day's battery life is subpar.

BTW, I'm not using any extra apps or anything. This is my observation based on putting the device back on the charger around 30% vs less than or equal to 10%.

The only problem I see with these observations is getting the watch down regularly to <10% so that it can benefit from a "full" charge.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
I can't begin to imagine battery life like that. Even with no apps installed at all, no notifications, no usage, and the watch sitting unused on a desk I would be lucky to manage 24 hours -- and that's after a full week of use, not the very first day. :(
[Moto 360] jayr04:
With ambient mode on, custom face, and light usage I get about 12 hours. With Ambient Mode off, I'm off the charger about 16 hours and still have about 40% left.

I would love a watch with a always on screen and able to get 16 hours of medium usage.
[Moto 360] Outlaw78a:
Disabled step card,step goal,and save fitness data,may help with battery
[Moto 360] steveliv:
Three days of testing so far:

OS: 4.4W.1 KGW42R

Ambient mode Off

Brightness on auto

Default watch face (Rotate)

Moderate usage, maybe 50 notifications, and using voice input for several reminders.

Day 1 (09th): Off charger for 10 hours, Battery 22%, Avg % Drain Per Hour: 7.13

Day 2 (10th): Off charger for 10 hours, Battery 57%, Avg % Drain Per Hour: 4.95

Day 3 (11th): Off charger for 10 hours, Battery 71%, Avg % Drain Per Hour: 3.44

I've got a chart off all three days on this reddit thread:

https://www.reddit.com/r/moto360/comments/2it5fr/moto_360_battery_stats_is_this_what_i_should_be/

My battery life was awful on the first day. On the second and third days, i rebooted my phone (MotoX 1st gen) in the morning before taking the watch off the charging dock. It made all the difference.
[Moto 360] HankB:
I learned just how much apps can impact battery life yesterday. Went for a run yesterday for just over an hour and used Endomondo to track statistics. I would have been close to 100% when we headed out and was at 53% an hour later. During the run I mostly left the display off so screen usage wasn't an issue.

One possible factor (I think) is that Endomondo has managed to capture heart rate from the watch. It showed a heart rate on the phone before I put my chest strap HRM on. Unfortunately that doesn't work well when I'm running. It recorded a heart rate of a constant 79 for the entire run but it may have kept the HRM in the watch trying the entire time.