yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
I don't mind the 3rd party apps

Since they don't waste space (removing them frees up nothing).

As for the Start Menu, I would guess that most "Power Users" either customize this anyway or use a launcher (iLauncher, WA Desktop, etc) so no big deal to me really. I just won't click on something that I don't use.

I am enjoying TCPMP and PHM Tray Launch, which are apps I've never used before.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
without the runonce installation most softwate and bluethoth etc will fail.

the point of the roms is to have the exras appa without consuming the storage.so u can still install yours.

another first to this rom is that pdf reader is runing from the extended rom!!!!! that took major work.also most apps are higly compressed.pdf reader is 7mb in original form.were mine is 2.9mb.i mean, how do you make something run from a hidden-write-protected drive?????!!;) ;) ;)

that runonce installer is ther for a reason.

i dont belive that anyone achived to turn cleartype font on automaticly either.i did.

just a few.....

the purpose is to test the rom so i can find out if is good enough to put in the public domain.

like a said before there is plenty roms up there to chose from.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
i think it would be better to have as much free program memory as possible rather than worrying about storage memory.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Xtriny:
removed apps from ROM will not free much programm memory. Only running apps "eats" RAM and you can close it. Like I said, it would be great to change p.pool sizel. I used ROM with 8MB p. pool with Wisbar, iLauncher, SPB Weather, and other apps in ROM and my free RAM was about 26 MB, storage about 38 MB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Trashman:
ok, installed and everithing appears ok exept for 1 lil detail...some of the lnks on startup folder r in rom and cant be deleted (i try to delete them and get an error)... i mean...i hate the tray bar and cant delete as example the bt-init to delete that icon among others to remove that bar...i mean...i know that is dumb to delete programs cause they dont take space on storage, but they DO take space on today screen...other than that detail i think everithing is ok...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
how do the 3rd party apps not take up memory or program memory
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Xtriny:
Faria,

what about make your ROM twice? One with 12MB, second one with 8MB paging pool. Everyone can choose which one to use... It should be the best to decide.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
PPC Memory Primer

The types of Memory that a PPC Device Has:

ROM

Storage Memory

Program Memory

The ROM is where the OS is. There is a defined amout of space on the DOC for the ROM Image. If you Don't fill it up then that extra space is still consumed by the ROM Image and you can't use it. Think of it as a CD, if you burn only 200MB of data onto a single session CD you can't install programs onto the remaining 500MB even though you have that unused capacity.

Storage Memory is like the HardDrive on your PC. When you install programs to "Device" they are stored here. User Data which is not directed to the Sotrage Card is also stored here. The OS makes it appear as though the ROM & Storage Memory are one and the same but they are not.

Program Memory is equivelant to the RAM on your PC. This is the workspace where all of the Apps run and the OS does it's work. Having a program installed doesn't consume RAM. Running the program does.

So....

If the extra apps are embedded into the ROM then all they are doing is filling up space that you normally can't utilize. If it keeps you from having to install 2 programs onto your "device" then it will preserve Storage Memory.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Trashman:
Forget about my suggestion, but something have to be checked, after 2 soft resets now it let me delete the .lnk´s
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] naboleo:
Did not saw the operator config stuff (i may have missed it), but everything else is fine.

Here is a set of config settings (ppc and smartphone) for all the 3 french operators ... It may be usefull ...

After applying the bouygues one, i send a text message and had notification
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
so you are saying that even though the extra apps are running they don't use the RAM they use ROM, thats hard to beleive.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] barrydavisjr:
Faria,

So far so good. Like the ROM a lot been working it like a fat girl trying to get into last years jeans. One question. After install what should the program memory be? Mine sits at about 14 - 13.5. Other than that I love the interface that you created to set your carrier settings as well as the abundance of items that you included. My hats off to you. You are a genius.

barry
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
those programs that are integrated in the rom do not use any storage memory they also do not use ram if they are not runing,thats is one of the benefits of this rom.

at naboleo;

i will put them in the rom.

at
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] molski:
Faria,

Can you maybe PM or email me how you achieved to enable ClearType automatically?

That's a tweak that I have been looking for a long time, I would love to hear what the secret is ;)

Regards,

Molski
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
Password

Could someone, Faria when possible, sent me the password for this ROM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
Jeffbar1, Not trying to insult you but how much do you understand about computers?

If you install an app on your PC that doesn't start something (like a SysTray Icon or Background Service) then it uses NO RAM unless you run the app.

This is the same for PPC Devices. Some Apps like Voice Dialers and such run services (programs in the background) that monitor activity or are simply needing to be "ready at the drop of a hat".

Remember Apps installed into the ROM do not utilize Storage Memory or RAM unless:

RAM: They are currently running (or running a Service).

Storage Memory: They store settings on the Device (not the Storage Card).

You explain to me how TCPMP is using RAM if you never run it?

The only simpler explanation I can come up with is:

If you buy a box full of puzzles and put it into your closet then it only uses closet space until you take it out of the closet and spread it out on the floor to put the pieces together.

While the puzzle is out it will use floor space.

The second you clean-up the puzzle, return it to its box and place the box in the closet it no longer uses floor space.

Now, I gotta say that anyone who can't understand this concept probably has no business Beta Testing anything.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
one for the critics.....

this rom has all the tools that u need to delete edit. remove, stop, services .remove today plug ins even the official ones.......network tools

etc....etc...this is what microsoft should done to it.in fact a call it windows xp mini-without a cd drive!!!!:D :D :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
dam rigth.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
Kyphur, I have to disagree with you on this one.

It's like lending your car to your wife, who notices that there's no mirror in the sunvisor.

Testing something means, it has to pass all trials.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
General Comments...

I've been holding off customizing too much, luckily most of my games & apps are installed on the storage card so I just have to re-enter Registration Keys.

So far I have not had any real problems with this ROM.

I have not setup SmartSKeys (one of my usual apps) because there is some weirdness when combined with WA Desktop.

I have not over-clocked yet but plan to do it tonight, not because I feel a dire need to though. So far the ROM seems very responsive.

I really miss MS Voice Command, Cyberon Voice Commander just can't hold a candle to MSVC (I used the "Nickname" voice dialing feature extensively). If anyone has any news on MS Planned updates that will allow it to work with AKU 3.x please share the info with us.

Tonight I'll pair my Moto BT820 and check out A2DP.

Thanks for the ROM Faria
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
With all do respect, the car scenario requires that your wife knows how to drive.

You wouldn't put your 11 year old daughter behind the wheel.

Besides, this is BETA TESTING (and not even a Public Beta)... which generally requires someone with a better than general knowledge. In fact Faria even asked that everyone who wishes to join this round of Private Beta Testing have reasonable knowledge of how our devices operate.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
im thinking about it.

molskiFaria,

Can you maybe PM or email me how you achieved to enable ClearType automatically?

That's a tweak that I have been looking for a long time, I would love to hear what the secret is ;)

Regards,

Molski

that one is performed by my installer the runonce file.problem is once i use my installer in a official rom it turns the security on:confused: :confused: i can make the exe to turn cleartype for you.barrydavisjrFaria,

So far so good. Like the ROM a lot been working it like a fat girl trying to get into last years jeans. One question. After install what should the program memory be? Mine sits at about 14 - 13.5. Other than that I love the interface that you created to set your carrier settings as well as the abundance of items that you included. My hats off to you. You are a genius.

barryToday 08:42 PMthanks i appreciate. i wrote about the ram before,u cannot mesure ram properly.windows mobile 5 unloads ram as needed.

if anyone is woried abou the ram and apps in the rom ,check how much ram the app are using from the taskmanager.the biguest eather of ram is mediaplayer.check for youself.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
so all the today plugins are not running and why is there not as much free ram as other bare 3.2 roms?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
thanks

use batery status to overclock much better.and the develpor gave permission to put in the rom.

anothe thing.....

have noone notice the new system sounds

and new email sound plus a new icon for the cab files and reg keys??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
is the only thing that is different in this rom is the cleartype and extras in ROM?

if so the test should be over cleartype works and the extras are extra!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
i give up...

did any apps desined for the wizard did not run from lack of ram? no.

as a said before ram gets free as needed .

if you anyone want to play playstation games get a playstation then.

google about ram i windows mobile 5

ram was never a problem till the fuc*ing 8mb paging poll ****.now it is.shis
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
To be honest, I installed WisBar Advanced almost immediately so I wasn't sure if the sounds were from the ROM or the Theme I installed.

The Cab File Icon is much nicer.

I think the best thing about this ROM is who well you have things integrated, I mean everything fits like it belongs!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
i have seen games that need at least 20mb of ram free. even with programs that require less memory when multitasking you might be forced to free up memory.

the amount of ram has always been a issue on the wizard and that is why so many are sacrificing performance for memory via pagepool.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
Wow, just what the h#ll are you looking for?

If you're so damn needy then why don't you do the hard work to cook your own ROMs?

If you get off your arse you can find all of the tools to do it. Then you can have what ever you want without bugging hardworking ROM Chefs...

You obviously don't understand the goals of the ROM and therefore are simply becoming a hindrance to the process.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
can you help me and find the OMAP Board Support package and would you like to try faria rom with 8mb pool? i cooked it to get rid of his ext rom but come to find out the extra bs all in the ROM.

i feel like i was testing for faria personal gain and not the XDA community!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
u better get a more powefull device.20 mb games were never suposed to run in a wizard, ho well let put the paging poll at 2mb so one in a 1000 can play is favorite game

for everyday user the ram is not a proble if its is they just get a more powerfull device.

anyway i got lots of work to do in the rom.........bye
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
First impression, it looks a bit faster, I'll see what I can notice this evening but will continue thru the weekend and give you info.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
First error: TodayAgenda-CPOOMManger, failed to find items after restoring PIM
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
jesus fu*king crist and baby jesus balls:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: some piece of work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
you should not be defensive to suggestion!

where did you quote "20 mb games were never suposed to run in a wizard" from, sounds like a real teat!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] barrydavisjr:
Yeah the Rooster tone scares everyone. I love it. Had a ROM many many moons ago that had the rooster and a cat one. I had the cat for the text and rooster for email. Super Mario Rocks too!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
microsoft channged the way pim works in the 3.2 ,,,,restoring from a prevews rom backup may not work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
yeah and the normal problem with the 3.2, the contacts screen won't stay on screen.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
Nope,

I like Faria's ROM and will be staying right here.

Good Luck with your ROM...

GOODBYE...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
Why da fu*k do you think there is an installer [the runonce file] in the rom?

A could put all the rom settings etc in a cab.

To prevent people like you that have no respect to other people work of just copying instead of asking first. In my world people ask first,

And I do believe a said no one can distribute this beta.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Vilem:
But this also only when restoring, so forget this remark
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffbar1:
the runonce file sets up the rom so everyone can test your config not the rom

it seems like you are tricking other into testing a rom so you can find problems to better your config not the rom.

that must be why you say the rom wont work w/o runonce but it does
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Xtriny:
How long do you use WM devices??? Not too long, arenť you? faria's ROM really doesn't work without runonce! If you cannot see the difference, pls throw your device away and buy mobile phone without OS.

My car can ride without motor too, but I have to wheel it
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] barrydavisjr:
More like to properly test a ROM OS one must see how that OS interacts with other software. Not only does it test compatibility but it tests stability. A Core OS rom when tested would not give the same results as testing a ROM for everyday use. This is similar to military testing. when they develop a new product they first systems test (which would be a core os test which I believe Faria has done since i have waited for this ROM for weeks) and a field test (which we are doing). The systems test makes sure that the product functions where as the field test makes sure the product functions in everyday use. One example is the Javelin and the Preadator. Fire and forget shoulder fired missles new to the military. When i was in in 97 they were in systems test phase, about 2003-2004 they went to field test.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
thank youuuuuuuuuu..... another person with knowlege .

anyway im allredy working in the next release [for thoses who care and deserve]
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Xtriny:
looking forward it....btw, it could be more better than now? :-D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] barrydavisjr:
I agree how much better could it be. This thing ROCKS!!! Faria is the Albert Einstein of ROMs
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] barrydavisjr:
Faria,

I have been tracking this ROM for a while. I stumbled across it in the FTP and have been waiting since Dr Puttingham mentioned that you guys were still working out bugs. I am glad to have waited. I was in limbo flashing and flashing not happy. Now i am.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] naboleo:
Playing with sktools i found minor errors in the registry. Not all could be usefull but at least the ones about acrobat may need to be corrected

PS : I was too lazy to copy/past text so i made screenshots
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
yes im aware of them.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
yes dr,p did the first testing.and ktamas.i have been working on this for weeks .all my knowlege about roms is going into it,from the blueangel days.

this is the kind of rom that i been using in my wizard since i bougt it.yes my wizard have been flashed over 200 times.it died the other day.but i managed to revive him.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] naboleo:
[bad joke]

That way, jeffbar1 will found improvement in next rom ;-)

[/bad joke]
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Xtriny:
Faria, when will you finish and upload next release, pls?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
blody hell man i need sleep too :confused: :confused: :) :) maybe 2-3 days.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Xtriny:
ok, don't hurry. asked only for info...

so....GOOD LUCK
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] herzzreh:
1) Time auto-update doesn't work, just like with the other 3.2 ROMs.

2) Reception appears to be worse than with Molski's ROM. <---false alarm.

3) *personal opinion* Too much crap on the start-up screen initially. Second boot screen is fugly, need the original green one.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
well.... desable them.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] herzzreh:
4) When synching with Exchage, no appointments are displayed anywhere.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] herzzreh:
I did.

What about the time issue?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
Stereo Bluetooth

Is not working!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] leroy06:
new rom

as soon as i ve got the link to download i did instal it om my device ,so far so good the instalation works perfect ,but after the second reboot the windows opening screen froze and the only way to start again was a hard reset , i tryed to reinstall the whole thing but at the end i've got the same probleme ...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hrb:
Bingo !

Somebody finally had to say it. I believe most of us who love to test agree with you

Thx kyphur

Cheers

hrb

BTW kyphur: as faria said: battery status works much better than smartskey. I use it since quite some time. Just my 2cents
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ArtXT:
yo faria, would be a great honor to test your rom,hope this one's better that other first aku 3.2, but all i can say is that AKU 3.2 is way faster(i've tried it b4,but now m using molski's 30mb ram) here's my em arthurbg2@gmail.com

gonna w8t for it, and a little tip so that whoever install AKU 3.2 will not encounter any crashes. install a clean 2.26 rom first,then next the AKU 3.2, hope this will help others.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] greyvision:
testing

i read some different opinions , for the guys who already testing it , how do you like the rom , are there any significant things to report and does the perfomance improve .

@faria , i also mailed you that i also wont to volenteer

grtzzz

greyvision

joerie(at)pandora.be
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hrb:
A2DP

I can confirm that.

Until it (might) get fixed in the next release, you can use the 2 enclosed CAB's. Just run them one after the other (obviously first number 1)

Just take away the ZIP-Ending to have the CAB's

Cheers

hrb
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Trashman:
I really didnt checked it be4 but after installing my stuff wififofum dont work...im going to check later in the day if i can find what piece of my soft is in conflict...

it says .net initialization error and in the end of the box: Support info: -2147483647 (80000001)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] souvath:
Hi Faria :

thank for the link , downloaded last night and tried to install ,as you said my wizard hang at 99% for about an hour and the pc said the update was finished !

my device got an ipl/spl 2.17.0001 G4

well i will try to refashed it tonight !will feedback later !
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] faria:
thank you for the feed back,i had no way of testing.i will integrate those files in the rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] saeba:
I'll post more as I get more familiar with the ROM's contents - there's a lot of software here :-)! A whole lot of nice built-in utilities and tweaks.

I do agree with the stereo headsets not working. I'll try the referenced fix and check it out. I have plantronics 590s.

Initial impression: It seems much quicker in overall responsivesness. The start menu really pops up. However, boot time seems longer than Summiter's ROM.

The softkey utilitiy has the std problem of referencing HTCCalendar instead of Calendar. So if you change settings, you have to edit the registry to correct it.

I've tried out phone, wireless and activesync network connections. Everything seems to work. Need to do some speed testing. My work calendar sync and pushmail solutions work.

With all the built-ins, I haven't loaded a lot of my standard stuff on yet. I did load up pocketbreeze as I prefer its calendar and task display. That's working great.

Ah... didn't care much for the time and date display on the menu bar. Part of the date was cut off on my display. So, I ran the supplied registry wizard and turned that off.

So far though... very impressed. AS I said, I usually have to laoad in a lot of utiltiies and tweaks and you've taken care of all that.

Thanks for the hard work and I'll post more later :-)!

saeba