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[Moto 360] ChodTheWacko:
Coming from a pebble -

It's actually quite nice to use the alarm on the watch. It vibrates and wakes you up (quite well, I might add), without waking up the person next to you.

Having to take the watch off to charge kind of loses that ability.

Having a custom charger, I prefer not to bring the charger around with me, lest it get lost/broken (in which case you're kind of screwed).

So it's very nice to be able to top off on friday, and then do whatever on the weekend (camp, out of town, whatever) without worrying about losing power.

Phones are a different beast, since everyone has a microusb cable. (kind of).

And a side worry - if you can just 'get through' a full day and then need to charge - what happens when the battery starts to degrade, like all batteries do?

Going from one full day to less than a full day is totally unacceptable since it's a custom charger. Going from multiple days to less is tolerable.

I'd say nobody NEEDS 3+ days. But let me tell you - I sure will miss it.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
No, thank you. Every watch I've owned, the strap is the first thing to fail.If there's no standard, user-replaceable strap, I'm not buying your smartwatch.
[Moto 360] robrob777:
The verge said that it last only 12Hrs, less if heavy used.

WSJ said it has to be charged twice a day.

Root cause of the bad battery life might be the fact that it uses a discontinued TI processor, the fact that Android Wear is having on resources and that it has only 320mah, for reference thr LG G watch has 400mah.

Suddenly I don't want it anymore. My Gear fit last from 3 to 5 days depending on usage.
[Moto 360] AstroDigital:
I agree 12 hours.... glad it did not go on sale in Canada.

Average day 6 am to 11 pm .....
[Moto 360] EVOme:
Guys....the battery life I am seeing so far is horrible! I took it out of the box at 18%. It started to update and got so low it told me to charge. Wouldn't do anything until I charged it. I let it get to 35% and started again. After the update and finally getting connected to my phone...it's at 14% again. I tried to use it and it's sooooo laggy. I just rebooted it again to see if there was something going on. It's sitting on charger at 13%.
[Moto 360] mk92595:
This is making me regret dropping the $265 I did on it
[Moto 360] DaRacerz:
Similar issues here. Trying to pair with phone and getting the watch setup it, I went from 32% to 16% very quickly. Charging now to full and will see how it lasts from full charge. Maybe just requires some conditioning?
[Moto 360] EVOme:
At the rate the battery is draining I have a hard time believing I could get 8hrs on a charge. I turned the ambient feature off to conserve battery. It disconnects from phone while it's charging. Well, doesnt get notifcations while charging.

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She's at 70%. Will let you guys know tonight now the battery does from full. Not sure why no other watch battery is like the Gear. My Gear 2 lasted at least 4 days on a charge.
[Moto 360] Locklear308:
That sounds too good to be true...

photos???
[Moto 360] MattSkeet:
you sure you have moto 360?? Black watchface will not improve anything as it is LCD screen
[Moto 360] etc6849:
I really want to believe numbers like this... but I also want to see pictures! For starters, how about a picture of the watch with your xda post in the background (so we at least know you have the same watch we're talking about ;) ).

I seriously doubt there is any way you can get anywhere close to the battery life you are saying. Are you going to Settings->About->Battery to view the actual percentage? My usage is the same as yours and mine consistently dies after 14-16 hours. Today it looks like it will die even sooner since I used navigation for 30 minutes to test it.
[Moto 360] Locklear308:
Agreed. There needs to be an official test.
[Moto 360] kuronosan:
I run an S5 and I'm honestly not getting anywhere NEAR the battery life others are reporting.
[Moto 360] jrdejavux:
Second day with mine and i have not gotten more than 10 hours both days...but i get about 30 to 40 emails a day and about 20 phone calls making the phone vibrate a lot. I also agree when driving the screen always comes on thus killing battery.
[Moto 360] ssgtob1:
Mine came off the charger at 7am and it is now 915pm. I don't keep the screen on and this is my fourth full day with the watch. I get about 20 emails and 40 texts a day and don't drive more than an hour all day. The watch has 58% battery left right now.
[Moto 360] TheEmpyre:
His report is not far off base if he is not using ambient sensor mode. I decided to try my day with Ambient turned OFF, I had notifications buzzing in all day, frequent checking of the clock / it would always respond if I looked at the time...Right now I'm sitting just at 53%, took it off the charger exactly 12 hours ago as of the writing of this post. Classic watch face, black background.

For good measure I included a pic
[Moto 360] RMXO:
Just got done with my first charge @ 9am this morning. After a system update, it went down to 73% and it lasted until 538pm @ 1% when I turned off my watch. I had ambient off, brightness to AUTO and had notifications, emails all day while at work. Currently doing my 2nd charge now and can't wait to see if the battery improves over time.
[Moto 360] kuronosan:
Anyone with bad battery life have custom apps installed or custom faces?
[Moto 360] RMXO:
I have like 5 installed and use stock faces w/ black background.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
The black background makes no difference whatsoever. This isn't an organic LED; the backlight still uses just as much power even if everything but one pixel is black.
[Moto 360] Mi|enko:
Truth.
[Moto 360] daviedave:
Battery Lifespan

hi guys, having reading this thread now for a couple of days i decided to do my first post here (and on the forums), so: hello! :)

i also would like to buy a moto 360 as soon as it will be available here in Germany but there is one thing that i bear in mind all the time:

What do you think how long will the battery inside the moto 360 work in terms of lifespan? I mean, 250 Dollars/Euros is quite a lot of money and i wouldn't want that my Moto 360 is useless after a couple of years because battery is dead or has reached a significantly lower level of capacity.

What a pity you can't exchange the battery on this device, kinda sucks i think :/

Any thoughts?

Greetings David :)
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
KGW42N 4.4w.1

Bought directly through moto. Ambient off, screen off. Took off charger at 6am. So far, running through battery a bit faster than the LG G watch. But not horrid.

Using classic watch face. I have only a few apps installed, no watch faces yet.
[Moto 360] bruceo:
I noticed with custom watchfaces there is a lot of lag. When I turn the watch up it has quite a delay or doesnt appear at all unless I touch it. Whereas if I use the stock moto watchfaces it is very responsice, almost as if the watch really knows when i am looking at it..
[Moto 360] jms_uk:
Its possible that with a "closed band" watch strap, it may be possible to use a standard flat QI charger like this:

Choe Qi Charger

..You'd need to open up the strap and put the Qi charger through it, laying the base flat on it.. but I'm not sure if the underside of the watch strap would prevent the base of the

360 from sitting flush against the charging pad surface.

Out of curiosity, if anyone has done a strap replacement (e.g. to the Pebble steel band), and has a standard Qi charger as wide as (or smaller than) the one in the link above.. could you give it a go? :)
[Moto 360] daijizai:
Don't worry about the battery making your Moto 360 useless in 2 years; your Moto 360 will be useless in 2 years because of all the more awesome stuff that will be out.
[Moto 360] aznpapaya:
Battery was at 100% at 7:30, it is now 12:15 and I have a 1.6"inch screen paper weight on my wrist. My 360 only lasted 5 hours. How is eveyrone getting 10+ hours from their 360? The only thing I changed is turning off the ambient mode/screen always on mode. Did I do something wrong as I'm only getting 5hours of battery life? My 360 is connected to my Note 3 and used very moderately.

The only app I have on the watch is the one that came with it.
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
So you have it setup to have the watch face on 24/7?
[Moto 360] aznpapaya:
No, I turned off the ambient mode/always on mode so the screen doesn't comes on when there's a new notification. Screen on comes on when I rotate my wrist of touches the screen.
[Moto 360] daijizai:
Lets assess the things that you might do to gesture trigger a screen wake, or run down the battery:

Do you drive a lot (I lose 20% per hour spent driving)?

Talk with your hands?

Perform repetitive actions that might look to the watch like you want to see the face?

Do you have ambient mode on?
[Moto 360] aznpapaya:
Do you drive a lot (I lose 20% per hour spent driving)? Only drove for 25mins this morning. I think my batter was around 80 when I got to work.

Talk with your hands? Nope, watch is on my left hand and I use my left hand mostly at work unless I'm typing, which isn't a lot.

Perform repetitive actions that might look to the watch like you want to see the face? Nope

Do you have ambient mode on? No ambient mode is off. Screen does not come on when notification comes through.
[Moto 360] daijizai:
Hrm... Maybe pull a logcat next time. Then you can look at the specifics of what the watch saw... I personally think that the accelerometer wake is causing ppl to haemorrhage battery juices, but I have only my experiences to list into evidence. mine lasts 16+ hours with no problem, and the only change I made was to take it off when driving.
[Moto 360] aznpapaya:
I'll give that try tomorrow. One weird thing that happens is after I received my 360 yesterday I let it charge on the cradle and when I return home

~3 hours later the 360 did not charge and has diel and was pretty hot to the touch. Could this affected my battery?
[Moto 360] daijizai:
Probably. If it is hot without charging it most likely means something was burning cycles in the background.
[Moto 360] aznpapaya:
Guess I'll try it out for a couple more days and the same thing happens I'll return it for a replacement. To bad I have to wait 3-4 weeks for a replacement lol
[Moto 360] mawells787:
Pretty fair battery review, 360 battery didn't fare good at all.

http://www.talkandroid.com/reviews/...ser-look-at-the-battery-life-on-the-moto-360/
[Moto 360] johnomaz:
I used Hangouts already.
[Moto 360] razball:
Oh ok
[Moto 360] johnomaz:
I'll take a photo tonight. Its been off the charger today for 4 hours and its at 90%. Not sure how photos will prove anything as I could just charge it but I'll still snap one.

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Its kind of hard to mistake the M360 with any other smart watch as you know, its round and all.

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http://i.imgur.com/pexiK9h.jpg

Theres a picture of me holding it in front of your post. I swapped the band for the Pebble silver metal band. As for battery life, there is no graph or option to view how long it has been off the charger or anything like in Android.

What I'll do tomorrow is I'll start taking screenshots of my phone in the Motorola Connect app. It has the battery % on the watch details. I'll do it every hour so you can see how much it goes down per hour from 100% to when I go to bed. I'll post those on Saturday most likely.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
This is my first full day from 100% charged and taken off the charger at 6am. As of now 3.11PM, a good 9 hours off the charger. Ambient off, screen to turn off and not show. Steps are on, heart rate monitor on. 7 apps installed, no 3rd party watchfaces. I have been getting emails throughout the day and been disconnected for a good 10-15 times for me going out of range and reconnecting. All of that and I am averaging -6.3% per hour. I am at 43% now. I have gotten pretty good numbers with my LG G Watch before I sold it lol, but I was running the ghoma rom that was stellar on it.
[Moto 360] ChrisNee1988:
thats a nice looking band, was it difficult to detach the stock band and attach that one?
[Moto 360] johnomaz:
Not really. A small flat head screwdriver worked just fine. I mean small. I didnt' want to scratch the housing or mess up the leather band just in case I have to go back to it one day. The Pebble band went on very smoothly. Fits perfectly. Resizing the band however is a different story. Had to youtube it and even then it was a pain in the butt but totally worth it.
[Moto 360] desantim:
I wake up daily at 5:30am for work, this morning it came off the charger at that time, it is 2:43pm PST, and I am at 66% battery. It has been connected to my phone the entire day, I've had a few text messages, I've been wearing it all day, and used it as normal. Checked the weather, set two timers, handful of email notifications came through...

That equates to a 5.5% decrease per hour in battery life. I'm pretty happy with that.

I have no idea if the watch faces make any difference to battery life, I am using the Matrix watch face from the play store, I have the following installed:

Calendar

wear mini launcher

WearFaces

WearBuddy

That's it.
[Moto 360] austontatious:
Just personal experience on my second day. Battery life seems MUCH better after a few charge/discharge cycles. Today after 8 hours of what I would consider pretty heavy use - texting, initiating calls, changing faces, etc - I'm at 41%.
[Moto 360] RMXO:
My second charge seems better also. I took my watch off the charger @ 7am and its now 511pm while being at 28% and had heavy usage today.
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Been off the charger for about 5 hours now with what I would call heavy use because I have been playing with it as I just got it and I am down to 70%
[Moto 360] kuronosan:
Sitting at nearly 9 hours and only at 40% with decent use. I'm thinking notifications are the largest drain, specifically the music controls.
[Moto 360] Theme Ishere:
short Question: is there any reason why the music controls take away so much battery life? is it just because you fiddle around with it is so much more (skipping songs etc.?)? does the screen come on whenever a new track starts? Or does it generally uses up more battery, even if you don't really touch it to skip songs etc.?

I guess music controls would be my main usage, as I listen to music all the time on my phone.
[Moto 360] NaterTots:
I used mine for music control yesterday. I only FF one song I think.

but I think the extra drain would be because it's sending the album art to your watch screen so it's moving data.

There's a constant back and forth.
[Moto 360] smeiff:
Well there are a lot of posts to read thru, but first day experience I got it around 11, charged it to 100% around 1:30 PM. 6:45 PM, look down and the watch is completely dead. 5 hour battery life?? Could this be because I was using it for music like other people have asked?

This morning is has been on for an hour and 40 min with 12% battery loss as I read this is about expected.
[Moto 360] Mister-B:
I'll be getting this watch as soon as it's available where I live. I think that unwanted wrist gestures turn the watch on and help drain the battery. I currently wear a Casio Pro Trek watch with a solar charged battery that has been in the watch since I bought it about 8 years ago. This watch also has a setting whereby the backlight is lit by turning the watch towards one's face. If this setting is on, my battery drains even in summer fairly rapidly. So the question I have: is it possible to turn off the "gesturing mode" on the 360? I would like the watch only to come on when I tap the face or press the button. Is this possible?
[Moto 360] quietglow:
Put me in the camp of "eh, this isn't looking great."

I've had three days of usage, and they've been consistent: after 12-13 hrs off the charger, the 360 is in single digits or dead. I have only used screen-off (ambient off) mode and I have almost nothing installed. I do get lots of email and hangout notices, and I walk quite a bit. I drive infrequently. Paired with a Moto X.

For me, 12-13 hrs of battery life means I can use it all day, but if I'm going out after work, I'm going to be wearing a dead watch at some point. I wouldn't put up with that from a phone, so I really won't from a watch.

Bummed!
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Not entirely. You can set the setting on the phone to ambient screen (screen on/off on the lg g watch settings) to off, where the screen turns off and will only turn on if you lift your wrist for a good 2 seconds to see the watch light up, unless of course if you press the button or touch the screen,then it will turn on immediately.
[Moto 360] bruceo:
Same here... Super excited about this thing, but after seeing how Moto scrimped so badly on the components and one day battery seems borderline acceptable and then another day it will be sitting dead on my wrist, just doesn't inspire confidence. The Gear live sitting on my desk that I was about to return is starting to look pretty amazing. For the 2 weeks I used it it was in always on, used for driving, music everything, no compromises and at the end of a long day it would have 30-50% battery left. When the Moto goes dead it throws you off because everything goes into a different mode of notifications and it starts making you pissed. So Moto has really crapped themselves making a beautiful smartwatch with bad internals, they built a brick house on sand.... I'm hoping that a software tweak can fix this (My jawbone up band just got a firmware update that doubled the battery from 7-14 days) so its possible, but I'm not holding out hope for more than the return period... I wish the Gear live didn't have such a terrible clasp design...:rolleyes:
[Moto 360] ghostfaceg35:
Why not just change the band? I had a metal band on my gear live in the first hour of purchasing it.
[Moto 360] aznpapaya:
So my battery yesterday was horrible,I was only able to get around 5 hours from moderate usage. Last night I got a notification saying there was an update avaible, updated to 4.4W.1. Today, it's been 5 hours of moderate usage(text, email, music, weather, etc) and I'm at 75%. Like many other have mentioned, day 1 was horrible but day 2 is a lot better. At this rate I should be able to get around 20 hours.
[Moto 360] quietglow:
Yeah I should have mentioned that my 12hr batt life is with the update to 4.4W.1
[Moto 360] bruceo:
If I keep it i will but I like the band it has on it and just think the snap design is terrible for a $200 watch.
[Moto 360] Locklear308:
This is great news!
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Been off the charger since 7:30 EST and right now I am at 53%. Not bad for close to 10 hours with pretty high usage in my opinion.

Ironically my HTC One M8 is also at 53% and I took them off the charger at the same time.
[Moto 360] RMXO:
On my 3rd charge last night and took it off the charger at 630 a.m. this morning and I'm currently @ 73% @ 226pm. I had a bunch of work and personal notifications.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Wow those are pretty encouraging! How are you guys set up on the ambient/screen on side? Do you use the autobrightness or on a specific level? Do you have the ambient screen on or off?

I personally have been on the extreme sides. The first day of use, I had the ambient screen off and brightness to 1. Had about 6.3% discharge per hour. Today I went the other way and turned on the auto brightness and screen on. That was about 7.2% per hour.

Based on your usage it seems like you guys are averaging 4.5%/hour.
[Moto 360] aafevo:
Mine has been off of the charger for about 8 hours now, i'm at 45% and was at the gym for 2 hours earlier using the watch to control all my music to my phone and count my heart rate/steps... I am really impressed by the battery to be honest after reading all the terrible reviews.

Amient screen = off

Auto brightness = on

Software version = 4.4W.1

Build = KGW42N

To put this into perspective of how much this thing is getting used, I am have probably sent/received over 400 texts so far, 20 or so emails, about 50 facebook notifications, 20-30 snap chat notifications, 10 or so instagram, about 20 minutes worth of driving, and a few Twitter notifications. I consider myself a very heavy user and this is holding up tremendously. My HTC M8 which I took off the charger about 30 minutes before I took off my 360 is at 42%.

Happy buyer here :)
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
I am at 37% right now after 12.5 hours of heavy usage. I did use it for an hour while working out to change songs from my phone. I have the brightness set to auto with the screen set to go off. Other than that, I haven't changed anything, and I have yet to add any apps. I will continue to update as I go along as this is my first day with it.
[Moto 360] nightfishing:
First full "normal" day; ambient off, auto brightness on (during day) set to 1 at night (auto is too dim for my liking). I will test with Always on tomorrow; at work I am moving a lot so the face is on quite a bit even in auto off mode.

12hrs; 33% left. (Almost identical to my n5 LOL)

threw both on on Qi pad for 20 minutes and now I'm off to a late dinner.
[Moto 360] bruceo:
This thing is baffling after a terrible performance yesterday.... Today I started at 1030am now it's 9pm and I still have 41%left...
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Well 15 hours after being on battery I still have 30%. Still have a couple more hours before I go to sleep, so I will see how long it lasts.
[Moto 360] kuronosan:
I'm convinced it's all in the notification management.

Too bad you can't mute music controls. I tried already.
[Moto 360] wiredout46:
@ 52% right now, took the watch off the charger at 830AM, it's 748PM right now.
[Moto 360] austontatious:
Day 3 and I'm at 40% after 12 hours of light-moderate (so not going crazy but not going easy on purpose either) use. I definitely agree that battery life gets progressively better after more charge/discharge cycles!
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Mine ended up dying at 6am EST and I took it off the charger at 7:30am EST the morning before. I had it on while I slept and I was purposely trying to kill the battery as I turned off auto brightness and turned ambient mode on.

So my first full day with the Moto360 lasted 23 hours. I have zero complaints about they battery.
[Moto 360] johnomaz:
http://imgur.com/a/KlGO8

Those are from yesterday, the 12th. It was only about 12.5 hours off the charger. Woke up late and went to bed early. Recovering from back surgery and all. Anywho, I used turn by turn navigation, read and sent texts, and used it like normal yesterday. That was my end result. 87% - 82% was the turn by turn navigation.
[Moto 360] gsusx:
What a great post. This is just the type of info people are looking for. . . Superb thanks mate.
[Moto 360] NaterTots:
This is my second full day.

8 hours 20 minutes. No navigation, ambient off and receiving some texts and emails, checking the time and I'm at 71%. Connected to a One Plus one.

I was really nervous about battery life but am now feeling much better.
[Moto 360] MT0227:
I picked my 360 up on Friday, today is my first full day with it. Started at 11:30am , now 9:30pm and I'm at 35% remaining. This would equate to about 15hr38min. Brightness on 1, Ambient off, Secret Agent watch face. Received some email and text notifications, i'd say about 25 total. Made about 7 voice activated texts using ok google. The rest would be checking the time and adding 4 apps. Nothing really active in the background like gps.
[Moto 360] Wafflcopterz:
Took off of charger at 11:00am, it's 11:04pm now, at 35%. Was at a festival all day, wacky bad reception all round, surprised it's this good honestly.
[Moto 360] Slack3r:
I wanted to kill my battery today to calibrate it after getting the watch, so I left ambient mode on. After ~10 hours it was still only at 25%, so I had to resort to running the stopwatch with the brightness on full to kill the rest.

Going to give it a real run tomorrow and see how long it lasts.
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Well I am at 25 hours on battery right now and I still have 25% battery. I even slept with the watch so I know I had to be turning the screen on all night.