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[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Richard Petty is old news.

The King is dead, long live the King!

That's one fancy grill you got there.

I'll bet your neighbors love you for blowing all that smoke into there homes and making them hungry. ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Yeah, the Mrs got it for me a month ago. I can smoke or indirect heat grill.

Nothing coming off it has been less than phenomenal. Did a chuck roast on it over the weekend. Highly recommended.

Haven't convinced her to make cookies in it, I may have to do that one.

That represents every gift giving occasion for a year.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I'll be over for dinner
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
A week after she bought it, she got all her presents for three years... A new transmission for her mini van... Heh
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Why did I think that was a hot dog with a giant onion next to it for a sec?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Those aren't hot dogs, they are gourmet sausages. But just like hot dogs you want to eat them without thinking about what goes into them and how they are made. :eek:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Actually they're ground up organic chicken breast and thighs, organic apples, organic celery, Gouda cheese, garlic, onion powder and some pink Himalayan salt and fresh, at the time, ground pepper. Both the sausage and the onion just came off the smoker and no you can't have any, the 5yo daughter wants seconds.

Adding the cost of the typical cable TV bill to our grocery bill allows, with change, eating about 75% organic at home. We grow what we can, utilize the farmers markets around us and buy our beef from a local gentleman cattleman. He manages a half priced bookstore as a full time job, but raises grass fed beef as a hobby.

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Making your own sausage isn't that hard, just time consuming.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
ROFLMFAO!

[YOUTUBE]WAlWrT5P2VI[/YOUTUBE]

Edit: I think organic is great and very healthy, I just couldn't help but think of this Portlandia clip. The rest of that episode is hilarious too. :good:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
We aren't quite that extreme, there are Klondike bars in the freezer :good:

That is funny though...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Did you see my edit?

I'm not down on "organic" at all but some people are fanatics about it. My son used to work in a Whole Foods store where people just think they are buying organic, but sometimes perception is reality. :rolleyes:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Whole Foods sold its soul a long time ago. Read some of the labels on their own 365 brand... Nasty stuff... You find less and less organic, more marketing grade "all natural" and their own prepared foods (which aren't even looking at being anything close to healthy).

We have a new kid on the block, Fresh Thyme Market that is truly local and roughly 40% organic and most of the rest beyond the marketing phrase of all natural. I know a couple of the farmers from around the markets that are supplying them. They're truly hurting the Whole Foods a couple blocks away (really not that hard to do given WF's over pricing).

Yes I did see your edit. Most of it is having a five year old daughter and my love of cooking. When my wife was in the hospital delivering our daughter, there was a 10yo in having a baby... I'm sorry, I don't want my daughter being chemically induced into puberty quite that early...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Whole Foods is the Apple of the food industry. Overpriced non-organic food for one and overpriced iDevices manufactured in Chinese sweat shops for the other but the consuming public (at least in the US) doesn't seem to care. Ignorance is bliss. :rolleyes:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Very valid comparison.

Got involved in a discussion with a 93 year old, "staunch, liberal, planned parenthood democrat" (her words) looking to buy a new phone and computer... She made me laugh, "I want a computer and phone for the non 1%. Something that just works so I don't have to think about it." She was trying to be such an open, loving, accepting soul, but couldn't escape the "some of my best friends know colored people".

The conversation was all over the board. Told her I wanted half the spunk she has at 93... next year.

BTW, the quotes are hers, I couldn't make it up.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Zehlek:
Hopefully we can get the latest signal and Wi-Fi icons
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
This is kind of old news since it has already been discussed in both the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 threads for this ROM and the icons shown in that article are still not the official icons for the L preview since that is not a preview release.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tember1214:
Just had to post this. Thought it was pretty funny

Sent from some L Material
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Hey... There's a fine line between an American and living in America.;)

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I was gonna say that but... I could never say it better than that guy... Also 750p iPhone 6 760p Nexus 4... So worse than 2012
[Nexus 4 Android Development] 0.0:
Apple was underwhelming overall in today's event. Even their watch is pretty pathetic. Even though Android Wear may be kind of crappy in some things and lackluster, to me, it looks better than the OS of the Apple Watch

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Yea, but it's a Retina Display. :rolleyes:

Most iPhans haven't figured out that all that means is the screen has a pixel density of at least 300 ppi, as do most high-end Android phones.

I wonder how many think that means Apple sprinkled some magic pixie dust on the screens that no one else can duplicate, even though they are made by the same manufacturers as the screens for Android devices. :eek:

+1

Well, here's the answer to what the full retail price of a 128GB iPhone 6+ is on T-Mobile, and that's not even unlocked:

C'mon Apple this a phone not a Macbook! An unlocked Galaxy Note 3 (32GB), which can do a lot more than the iPhone 6+ and has a removable SD card (128GB Sandisk Ultra microSD is about $110), is currently quoted at $550 on Amazon, but it doesn't come with the Apple logo. That's almost the same as the up front payment for a maxed out 6+ with a 2 year contract. :rolleyes:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Okay okay let's stop laughing at apples horrible iPhone 6 other wise Ihaterandroids will knock on your door :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sidnoit22:
Totally off the topic You guys on XDA 2015 Theme? Here click : XDA Link
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
Man this new forum theme looks so L ....ish
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PVL_93_RU:
[MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] what's the difference between Full and Slim packages? I thought the Slim one didn't have GAPPS included?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Post #2, first spoiler.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] soulicro:
I'm still having issues with Google Play Music not recognizing that its online when connected to WiFi. I know this has been brought up before, I remember Syko saying it had something to do with the new 81c apps, but I can't seem to find a/the solution (I searched, maybe I just suck at searching).

Any help? Because otherwise this ROM is fantastic, but only using mobile data for my music is eating up my monthly limit and its a bit of a drag getting slowed down to 128kB/s :\
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Google Play Music works fine for me over WiFi (see attached screenshot). I have no music loaded on my phone at all.

Have you tried a clean flash (factory reset in TWRP)?

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] soulicro:
I always clean-flash to make sure I don't run into and don't bother devs with weird bugs that might be caused by dirty flashing. Should probably mention I'm on stock kernel as well (again, for the same reasons).

*edit*

I should also mention that it sometimes works, and sometimes doesn't. When it doesn't work, turning the phone off and on again solves it temporarily (but it will happen again). I think it happens when switching WiFi networks (for example, this morning at home I checked it out after finally flashing B6 and it worked, but I just stepped into the office joined our WiFi network and its offline again).
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Sounds like it may be another network related issue. Do the rest of your apps (Gmail, Play Store, etc.) continue to work when Play Music doesn't?

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] soulicro:
As far as I'm aware, yup - but I haven't tested for that, so they might have stopped working and I just haven't noticed it. Next time it happens I'll look into it.

*edit*

Hold on, I can re-create it simply by toggling WiFi off and on again. Let's see if Play Store works.

*edit-2*

Yup, Play Store works as expected - just installed Shazam as a test.

*edit-3*

So far I've concluded that upon first boot of the phone, if you connect to WiFi, Play Music will work as expected and connect fine. Toggle Wifi off and on, and it fails to recognize a network connection and thinks its offline. Restart the phone, it'll work again for that first WiFi network.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] muzaffarkhan95:
None of the applock apps works on my phone! Is it a fault in the L? M using 5.9 build!!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] 0.0:
that price makes my eyes burn. whoever buys the $949 option is feeding into Apple's profit margin. that's insane! also, the iPhone 6+ is taller than the Note 4, which has a 5.7 inch screen. that is very sad. Apple, you fail
[Nexus 4 Android Development] christiano88:
I have managed to restore the whole nandroid just by clearing some space, stupid me.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ferrocene:
I reverted to an older version.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] soulicro:
Of what, the ROM or the app? If its the latter, would you mind hooking me up?

Also, a thought - I'm going to try removing the included Play Music app and downloading it from the Play Store.

*edit*

I removed the included Play Music app and installed it from the Play Store, I still get the same behavior. Mildly infuriating. [MENTION=2558028]ferrocene[/MENTION], I would love to hear your solution in more details.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
This is what makes me the sadest: *Up to 3X faster WIFI* seriously... Except if you are a computer freak and must have WIFI AC you are not gonna get faster WiFi... SCAM! Oh well placebo effect to the rescue!

Now people who buy a new iPhone 5s will feel that the iphone 5s is slow on the internet. While the 6 is 3X faster...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] xTristinx:
I use it in my car with bluetooth all the time, seems to be working fine!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] BigCrisco39:
Do you get Voice over Bluetooth? I connect my headphones and no problems with music but will not work for phone calls.

Sent from my LeXus⁴
[Nexus 4 Android Development] esticbo:
[MENTION=2928709]soulicro[/MENTION] have you the stock kernel? I've this problem with hellscore kernel
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hazwheel:
Nuff said!

Sent from L
[Nexus 4 Android Development] soulicro:
Yup, stock kernel.

I should note, in my own car I have a Belkin bluetooth accessory that I plug into my aux input. It outputs both music and voice, and I am able to to use it to listen to music / GPS directions and make and receive calls. In my dad's car, however, I am only able to listen to music. Seems to be related to the bluetooth profiles used by the manufacturer.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] xTristinx:
yeah the bluetooth in my subaru works in calls and playing music!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Foolishbison:
I've got a parrot after market system in my Camry. Bluetooth audio for music, calls and gps all still work with L, though the phone book sync no longer does (never has on L). Also, it's a bit glitchy: if I get a call while listening to music, the music will stop, but I might not be able to answer the call. Or I can answer the call, but then I'll have to toggle BT to get it to play music again once the call is done. I just chalk these up to the oft-mentioned BT bugs that are part of L right now.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cfrank38:
Hy im testing at the moment this test build. its working perfect the part of data fixes but i catched my phone now 3 times with a forced restart without doing anything with the phone. Latest defconoi kernel...

I didnt touch the phone and when i came back i catched the phone restarting ... I flashed over beta 6 without data-wipe but wiped system, dalvik and cache....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] The Tox:
Which one is more stable , 5,9 or B6 ?

sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PugRallye:
Really?

My Mercedes still doesn't work at all - the phone can't "see" the car at all. I've checked all settings etc on both car and phone.

Very frustrating as I like to listen to music from my phone when driving...

B6, stock kernel btw
[Nexus 4 Android Development] steviemch:
B6 is stable as hell, as is 6.1.

Sent by Borg neural subspace transceiver node.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Aashuk Mehta:
B6 is draining too much battery for me any kernel you guys recommend?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] llaugerm:
6.1??? Where's the download link for it?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] steviemch:
Scroll back a few pages and you'll see it.

*edit, here it is*

Oh hai, all the data issues should be worked out now

tests-mako

6.1 slim

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By0vn8iv_zrVSVhBR1UxTFh6RGM/edit?usp=sharing

6.1 full

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0By0vn8iv_zrVU0dhQi00aDJQUkE/edit?usp=sharing

Sent by Borg neural subspace transceiver node.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] mackendw:
6.1 changelog

Is there a changelog that identifies what the mods/changes are in 6.1? (mako)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
We were testing for a fix for network issues so changed out the apns. The WiFi supplicant and INI files.

Doesn't seem to have really done anything though as it seems the network issues are deeper intertwined in with the new connection manager and even though netcfg can handle multiple connections, playing with it doesn't seem to do the trick.

L brings concurrent mobile and WiFi networks at the same time and that is what our network issues are coming from
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Well since there was a new hangout apk out today, anyone test that on here to see if that fixes the MMS issues?

This would be the next public release so it should have the fix
[Nexus 4 Android Development] opee:
You have to install an older version! That works for me...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] soulicro:
Sure! I wouldn't mind, but I don't know the latest version that worked, and where to get it from. Mind hooking me up?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ferrocene:
Sorry, what I mean is I reverted the app version. There's a known issue with google play music and L with the newest release. I went into the apps list and deleted all updates. Although if the newest ROM version has the newest music app, this won't be possible.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] perfoliate:
Well I just tried sending one on WiFi with the new hangouts version. It was stuck in "sending" for a few minutes until I switched off WiFi. Then it sent. Same behavior as before I'm afraid.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I figured as much :banghead:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] perfoliate:
On another note. WiFi calling works great from the new app. Especially good for those of us on the T-mobile $30 100 minute plan [emoji2]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
I'm still confused about the mms issue. How could hangouts by itself resolve the issue? Even if it did, what about other text apps? This thing needs to be fixed within the core.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
If it worked like textra and force the MMS over cellular then it would work like textra does.

The new networking features of L are supposed to be able to do this but it isn't happening
[Nexus 4 Android Development] R-Rizzo:
It's funny cause it's true.

SOURCE: I live in Portland.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
It's about time. :D

iPhans have had this for a long time and I couldn't figure out why Google didn't add it to the Android version of Voice. Maybe they thought free calls over WiFi would make Android less attractive to some carriers, especially since T-Mobile counted WiFi calling minutes against some plan limits, but I guess that's academic now that most plans have unlimited voice and text. This is a great feature for tablets without cellular radios too.

I just made a couple test calls with the Hangouts dialer and it does show my Google Voice number as my caller ID, even though that's not the native number of the phone I was using, and the outbound calls are showing up in the Google Voice log when I access that through the browser. :good:

Since I have the T-Mobile $30/month 5GB/100 minute plan on my Nexus 4 I was using the Internet calling feature of the standard dialer with a couple of VoIP services but I'll have to give this option a try and see how the call quality compares, especially since it's free.:cool:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] flakinarist:
On 6.1 the playstore won't update or install any apps :/

Someone has an idea?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] frikakwa:
Clean cache-data from the Google Play... then restart and retry!

This works well on mine so... should be fine with you too!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
someone on 6.1 wanna try this kernel, this should be the other piece of the puzzle with 6.1 on the network issues
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cfrank38:
you have to pass this corrections to defconoi for incluidng in his kernel
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
If it works first then I will pass it on. I believe it has to do with the ip6 packet routing from what I have been looking at
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Jakkumn:
Been running into the same issue. To get Play Music working again on mine, I just toggle airplane mode. Always reconnects after that. I find it funny as I will go to play music on my chromecast connected to the internet, but Play Music says I am unable to play songs due to whatever the network issues are. Its annoying, but not a show stopper type of a bug for me. I'm using 6.1, but it doesn't seem to affect it (MMS seems to work better though).

EDIT: Will try new sykopompos kernel and report back what I find. Been running defcon-85 since clean flash of 6.1.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
The behavior of MMS on previous android versions is to turn off WiFi and go to cellular connection as textra does. Now with L, it is supposed to be able to maintain multiple network connections so it doesn't have to turn off WiFi to send MMS.

Now we see that this behavior is not working like it is supposed to (same behavior as the battery saver mode of location) and is a defect of the preview.

Been trying to find a way around this network issue
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
I installed Textra for the first time yesterday to test MMS and noticed that option (see screenshot) is actually a setting for T-Mobile users to work around WiFi calling (which the Nexus devices don't support) but I guess it's fortuitous for L preview users that it's there. :good:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Jakkumn:
Decided to watch the network devices while sending a MMS. Under wifi, the listed devices are rmnet_usb0 (its plugged into my computer), lo (as expected), p2p0, and wlan0. Those are the devices that are up. lo and wlan0 have IPs, the rest are just 0s. When switching over to data only, I get, in addition to the others, clat and clat4 going up. I'm going to see if I can override it and have clat and clat4 up (I see clat is the ipv translator for data).

- No luck, they straight up disappear after accessing wifi. Not quite sure where they go when wifi is on, they aren't enabled when an MMS is announced to the system.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
It does work out for us in the mean time while we try to figure out this issue. I'm hoping the kernel changes help at least on some of the network issues even if it doesn't solve the MMS issue, if it improves reliability in general, I will be happy
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
looking at clatd in L-preview and aosp I see this

# get the plat_subnet from dns lookups (requires DNS64)

plat_from_dns64 yes

# hostname to use to lookup plat subnet. must contain only A records

plat_from_dns64_hostname ipv4only.arpa

but in 4.4.4 I see this

# get the plat_subnet from dns lookups (requires DNS64)

plat_from_dns64 yes

# hostname to use to lookup plat subnet. must contain only A records

plat_from_dns64_hostname ipv4.google.com

wanna try changing your etc/clatd.conf to match 4.4.4 and see what that does?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Psichi:
Did you see that Google has marked the bug as closed? [AP coverage] The fix should trickle down when the next build is released.

I've been catching up on the thread, so I may have missed if this was seen
[Nexus 4 Android Development] elmerohueso:
Which build are you using? I'm on B5.9 and Secure Settings keeps saying that it's unable to get permissions, even though SuperUser shows permission was granted.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
You should really step up to b6 as 5.9 was just meant as a temporary stepping stone and 6.1 for network issues is still under development
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adamshumpisxxx:
This sounds like something I want to get into. I just have a few questions I couldn't figure out from lurking. If anyone could help me it would be greatly appreciated.

1) I see people referencing a newer version than what is displayed in the OP. Where do I get the latest ROM zip at any given time?

2) I plan to use the newest version of Universal Kernel. Which version of BusyBox do I flash from the link given? The first one just labeled plain BusyBox?

3) In what order do I install everything including the ROM, Universal Kernel, UKM, Synapse and BusyBox? I assume ROM > Kernel > UKM > BusyBox > Synapse (after first settled boot). Am I correct in my assumption?

Thank you very much in advance to anyone willing to help me. I look forward to getting into Android L ASAP! :good:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
.B6 is in the second post as mentioned in the first line of the op.

6.1 is in one of my posts.

Busybox is included in 6 on, just the links aren't there so downloading any of the play store busybox apps will set the links. The non linked is there and does get explicitly called by several programs like init.d.

If you use defconoi's kernel, his sets up busybox and you can just use ukm and synapse from there
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CanAndroid:
I'm on 6.1 with this kernel, what do you want tested? Everything I use day-to-day has always worked, I'm not sure what issues need testing.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
This post pretty much covers that.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adamshumpisxxx:
Thank you very much. So what you are saying is I can install ROM b6.1 > Universal Kernel > UKM > Synapse? Would you recommend for any reason that I use b5.9 or b6 instead?

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Also, I found the b6.1 ROM zips you posted. I only see two versions though. Slim and Full. Does your Slim version include printer support? If not...is there a version of b6.1 that does include printer support? Thanks again.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Unless you are planning to test the network related items that were intended to be fixed by 6.1 I recommend staying with B6.

This post documents the changes made for 6.1 and there hasn't been enough testing done yet to determine whether or not they fixed those things or created any new issues.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Taking out printer support only saved a few mb so I added it back to the slim builds