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[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patil.ketan:
no luck :( getting this when trying to erase userdata:

ketan@ketan-desktop:~$ sudo fastboot erase userdata
erasing 'userdata'...
(bootloader) Failed to erase partition
FAILED (remote failure)
finished. total time: 5.005s

output of getvar all:

ketan@ketan-desktop:~$ sudo fastboot getvar all
(bootloader) version: 0.5
(bootloader) version-bootloader: 500C
(bootloader) product: condor
(bootloader) secure: yes
(bootloader) hwrev: 0x82B0
(bootloader) radio: 0x5
(bootloader) emmc: 4GB Micron REV=06 PRV=12 TYPE=17
(bootloader) ram: 1024MB Elpida S4 SDRAM DIE=4Gb
(bootloader) cpu: MSM8210 CS
(bootloader) serialno: ZX1B32PKHK
(bootloader) cid: 0x0007
(bootloader) channelid: 0x40
(bootloader) uid: 8C659C0312000000000000000000
(bootloader) unlocked: yes
(bootloader) iswarrantyvoid: yes
(bootloader) mot_sst: 3
(bootloader) max-download-size: 299892736
(bootloader) reason: Volume down key pressed
(bootloader) imei: 359299058805099
(bootloader) meid:
(bootloader) date: 06-12-2014
(bootloader) sku: XT1022
(bootloader) iccid:
(bootloader) cust_md5:
(bootloader) max-sparse-size: 268435456
(bootloader) current-time: "Sat Jan 24 2:52:53 UTC 2015"
(bootloader) ro.build.fingerprint[0]: motorola/condor_retaildsds/condor_
(bootloader) ro.build.fingerprint[1]: umtsds:5.0.2/LXC22.46-32/30:user/r
(bootloader) ro.build.fingerprint[2]: elease-keys
(bootloader) ro.build.version.full[0]: Blur_Version.22.21.32.condor_reta
(bootloader) ro.build.version.full[1]: ildsds.retaildsdsall.en.03
(bootloader) ro.build.version.qcom[0]: AU_LINUX_ANDROID_LNX.LA.3.5.1_RB1
(bootloader) ro.build.version.qcom[1]: .04.04.02.048.045
(bootloader) version-baseband:
(bootloader) kernel.version[0]: Linux version 3.4.42-g5bed184 (hudsoncm@
(bootloader) kernel.version[1]: ilclbld52) (gcc version 4.8 (GCC) ) #1 S
(bootloader) kernel.version[2]: MP PREEMPT Fri Jan 23 20:56:55 CST 2015
(bootloader) sdi.git: sdi.git
(bootloader) sbl1.git: sbl1.git
(bootloader) rpm.git: rpm.git
(bootloader) tz.git: tz.git
(bootloader) aboot.git: git=MBM-NG-V50.0C-0-g2259fb8
(bootloader) partition-type: raw
(bootloader) partition-size:
(bootloader) qe:
(bootloader) ro.carrier: reteu
all: listed above
finished. total time: 24.931s
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lost101:
Try different cables / different computers. If all results are the same - your emmc is corrupt. No way to fix, only option is replacing motherboard.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WiCiO_MeDi:
if you can get into recovery (TWRP) you should be able to format RAW partition

try flashing only recovery image (fastoob flash recovery xxx) and get into recovery straight from fastboot
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lutziferien:
Same raw partition problem here with Moto G XT 1068

I ran into the same problem:

I can't flash or sideload anything because I'm stuck with a stock recovery & raw partitions. Therefore I cannot flash a costum recovery or any ROM (although [m]fastboot says, it went all ok). Neither (m)fastboot nor adb works. All Unbricking methods, flashs or easy installs don't work for me, because nothing is actually written on the eMMC - as if it were read-only...

If I try to wipe data and cache I get these 3 errors:

Formatting /data:

blkdiscardon partition /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata failed.

blkdiscardon partition /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cache failed.

Data wipe complete

Formatting /cache:

blkdiscardon partition /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cache failed.

Cache wipe complete

I suppose, it's either the corrupted eMMC or some messed-up partitions, but I don't know, how to check.

Without TWRP or CWM I cannot reformat partitions to prove that (fastboot can't format "RAW partitions", as it says).

After 48h on this mess I'm wondering, if I should throw my XT1068 out of the window or myself.

Any fresh ideas on this? Not the window thing, please...
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tepar:
If you can't flash twrp, can you try to boot into it by using fastboot/mfastboot boot twrp.img

If it is successfull, then you can format your partition, after that, then you can try to flash twrp or flash stock rom by using fastboot/mfastboot commands. Hope it helps.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okaryn:
For me, I can't boot into recovery :(

If I flash all the Rom under fastboot, all is ok on the screen but after reboot I have the unlock logo, reboot, unlock logo, etc...

If I use the fastboot boot recovery.img (stock, twrp, cwm, anyversions...), it's ok on the screen but after reboot I have the Motorola logo, reboot, unlock logo, etc...

The difference is on the first logo

Since some months, I can't find any solution anywere :crying:

[Edit]

All commands for partition size or type return an empty value

For a try to format /cache :
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lutziferien:
Thanks, tepar, for the hint: I can boot into TWRP 2.8.7.0 with fastboot and try wiping/formatting all partitions one by one.

At repairing the file system on cache and system the following error occurs:

/sbin/efsck -fp /dev/block/mmcblk0p35 process ended with ERROR=4

Unable to repair cache; error repairing file system

But wiping & formatting afterwards gives no errors but doesn't change anything.

Like read-only!

[Maybe there's something wrong with the partitions' file systems or their sizes. Could be the former owner doctored them - system is almost full...]

These are the present file systems and their size. Anybody knows if they are correct?

data: f2fs 5637MB

cache: ext4 525MMB

system ext4 1086MB

As no wiping/formatting/sideloading/adb pushing works, flashing recovery or a ROM still doesn't work. All commands are 'ok', but nothing is written on the destination disk.

Maybe formatting by terminal on TWRP somehow?

Any idea how to check the eMMC's integrity?

Sorry for the lot of questions...
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lutziferien:
Same here...

Formatting by fastboot:

fastboot format:ext4:573292821024 /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1

Warning: /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1 type is , but ext4 was requested for formating.

Warning: //dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1 size is , but 573292821024 was requested for formating.

[...]

writing '/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1'...

(bootloader) Permission denied

FAILED (remote failure)

finished. total time: 4.441s :

So, neither fastboot nor TWRP works at formatting - I tend to eMMC failure & a new motherboard. :(

What do you say, okaryn?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] okaryn:
I think the same thing :(

More than 1 year with this problem and no solution everywhere,

I think it's really a hardware problem. Some times I search just for my own purpose, but always don't find anything new (it's not my phone, it's for a friend who bought the 4G after this brick).
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tepar:
Sorry to hear that, i have only little knowledge regarding this kind of stuffs...maybe it is hardware failure afterall, wish you all best of luck, may be someone with more knowledge about this can help you guys...
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pradeeppk:
It worked Thanks

Step 1. on bootloader, command fastboot -w, wchich formats /data and /cache even if they are raw

The flashed all stock files through fastboot

Thanks a lot
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] axis1048:
where did you get the flash tool?
[G3 General] Bukary:
Firstly, let me apologize for my English and the lack of technical terminology in my vocabulary.

Secondly, a disclaimer: I do not own any Samsung phone. I think that my wife's LG G2 is the greatest phone in the world. :)

Let's get to the point...

Polish site PCLab has just published a detailed review of G3 (European model) with some astounding tests' results that might shed some light on all disturbing reports about problems with LG's new flagship device. And while Polish journalist praise the phone for its incredible design, great UI, decent camera, they are at the same time very disappointed with some serious software and hardware problems that G3 is suffering from. I have read tons of different reviews, but it's the first one that explains why this phone "lags", overheats etc.

Problem: POOR BENCHMARKS' RESULTS, LAGS

Some reasons:

1. It seems that RAM sticks (is that the correct word?) in G3 are worse in terms of quality than the ones from G2.

2. CPU management is set to deliberately lower clock rate and restrict maximum clock rate to one core only in most of the cases. And when all four cores are in use, CPU management does not allow them to work at maximum rate at all. It has some serious impact on UI operations as well and makes better chpset in G3 perform worse than Snapdragon 800 in G2.

3. The temperature. G3 has some serious problems with heat distribution. When the CPU is working for longer period of time, the clock rate is lowered to 1.5 GHz and (what's worse) GPU clock is being seriously restrained. For example, after several minutes GPU clock rate is slowered by 40% (from, say, 20 fps to 12 fps)! It's the worse throttling among all new flagships.

4. There's no trimming in system's internal memory. That's one of the most important causes of "lags".

5. The new UI has some problems with memory management. Sometimes while using few apps there is only 174 MB of 2 GB of memory avaible! And the only way to free memory is to restart the device.

And yes, this review also confirms problems with oversharpening of the text on G2 dispay. The reviewer says that it's the software issue (or rather: "LG's conscious marketing decision").

You can see all the screenshots from various tests here:

http://pclab.pl/art58419.html

I have no idea if these problems might be fixed with some software updates, but I really do hope so! :(
[G3 General] Batfink33:
I've only read a little of it but one of the things that caught my eye is that they are complaining about having only small amount of free RAM. Another poster on here asked about this, RAM is used differently in Android as it is in Windows for example. Free RAM in Android is bad not to mention that the kernel is using around 25% of RAM as ZRAM which I believe is standard in 4.4 kernels! So the article in that point is wrong. I've also looked at the CPU usage on my phone and measured it against temperature. During normal use the temp is around 45-60degC and the CPU is not throttling its sitting at it max 2.5Ghz. I posted a screen shot of this on another thread. They may have a pre production model with early OS version.

---------- Post added at 12:33 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:25 AM ----------

OK, CPU V temp graphs of normal usage. CPU is spiking to 2.5Ghz, no throttling and temps are normal. RAM usage shows around 400MB free always. Totally normal for Android as I said it fills the RAM then kills apps as needed.

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[G3 General] Jiyeon90:
Are you sure about that?

Whenever I have less than 200MB RAM left, my homescreen redraws, opening/closing apps and browsing through the menus is slow.

Whenever I have more than 500MB left my phone is as snappy as the nexus 5.

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[G3 General] Batfink33:
Android fills RAM up as you open apps up and leaves the apps in the RAM so you can multitask. As soon as it needs more RAM for other apps it automatically kills the apps sitting in the RAM. Launchers have a big RAM footprint, you're better using a lightweight launcher such as Nova and using the "aggressive" setting which means it never gets killed and sits in the RAM permanently. If you look at your RAM usage whether you have 2gb or 3gb it will always be mostly full as that's how the kernel us handling its usage, its filling it up for multitasking. The article in the op states that the RAM is always mostly full, yes that's good as that's what its supposed to be doing.

http://m.androidcentral.com/ram-what-it-how-its-used-and-why-you-shouldnt-care
[G3 General] Enddo:
This is because LG is trying to run a QHD display on the Snapdragon 801 chipset. The Snapdragon 805 is required to run a QHD to achieve the same performance level as the Snapdragon 800 running on a 1080p display

You can read about it here - http://www.anandtech.com/show/8035/qualcomm-snapdragon-805-performance-preview/3
[G3 General] dhkx:
No TRIM? Are you sure? Don't all devices with Android 4.3 and above have TRIM automatically enabled?
[G3 General] Lostatsea23:
Yeah. Android has that built in now.

All these reviews are annoying. The device just came out. A lot of this can be fixed via an update.
[G3 General] Batfink33:
Trim is built in, yeah. The G3 does have issues and the S801is at its limit pushing the QHD display but with ROM and kernel optimization there's still more performance in the phone.
[G3 General] Bukary:
That is exactly what the reviewers says: when there was only 174 MB of free RAM the phone started to redraw homescreen and freeze. There was no way to get rid of this. Uninstalling apps and closing them did not help. One could only restart the device. The journalist claims that this software issue can be fixed with an update (if LG decides to release one).

Well, the reviewer also says that trimming at fixed moments (or while deleting files) is standard for Android, YET the test revealed that in system's memory of G3 there is no trimming. He is also surprised and says that the quality of this emmory (eMMC) is good, but no trim makes it laggy. (I hope I understood it correctly).

I also hope that it will be fixed. But so far there is no serious update. And it's been 5 (6?) weeks since Korean release. And, as far as I know, no other flagship device had such a serious problems. Can you imagine Z2 or S5 perform worse than Z1 or S4? And yet G3 with 801 (in some tests) performs worse than G2 with 800. :(
[G3 General] Enddo:
What test? Would you care to link any of these sources
[G3 General] Bukary:
I linked this review in my first post in this thread.

I am no technical guy, so I can't check if the reviwer is correct, but I tried to translate everything accurately. I want to buy G3, so I am hoping that all these problems can and will be fixed by LG soon.
[G3 General] Uvaavu:
Use Xposed App Settings to set your Launcher as 'Resident'. Got rid of this issue for me.
[G3 General] Lennyuk:
The CPU almost always staying at 300mhz is the largest issue I have with the phone - its not a huge issue, more of an annoyance. I am guessing its been done to maximise battery life and reduce heat.

I don't think this is due to thermal throttling, but if I am wrong please correct me - has anyone had success with turning the throttling off?
[G3 General] bedlamite:
It looks like as an author of this article (I completely did not expect to find this link here :D) I need to clarify few things.

I'm well aware that "RAM not in use is wasted RAM" and that Android keeps a lot of things in memory to make everything faster, not slower. When my G3 has ~300-400 MB of free memory, everything works fine, but after some time it fills up and there is no room form launcher, more than 1 tab in Chrome and so on. It clearly is some problem with memory management and as an long-time Nexus user I'd rather say it's a bug, not a feature ;)

Claim that every smartphone with Android 4.3 or newer allways has TRIM because it is "built-in" is not entirely true. There are different ways of supporting TRIM. Most common one is ext4 filesystem with discard flag active (ext4 without discard does not TRIM automatically), which was used even before ANdroid 4.3. Motorola has F2FS filesystem, which is optimized for NAND storage and has garbage collector allways active. There is also "Nexus way" TRIM with garbage collection demon running in background. In G3 data partition is ext4 without discard flag and in system logs there are no signs of any TRIM commands running in background, so AFAIK there is no TRIM support in G3 at the moment, or I have strange preproduction sample. The best way of checking that would be rooting G3 and running fstrim() manualy, but i can't do that with my review sample.

That's not the whole storry. Yes, highier ressolution is part of it, but it looks like G3 has very small thermal headroom and during longer heavy GPU load it's clocks get cut by ~40%. (unfortunately i can't paste links in my posts yet). During 30 minutes long GFXBench loop, after ~15 minutes GPU throtling kicks in and this Snapdragon 801 gets much slower, than Snapdragon. Yes, allmost every new smartphone with S800/S801 throttles in such situations, but G3's case is most extreme one I've ever seen.

And selling beta hardware with beta software for full price isn't annoying? ;)

I'll try to figure out with Polish LG representatives if these problems are typical only for this specific sample, or it's something more common. At the moment my opinion is that G3 is very cool phone if your typical usage scenarios do not hit the "heat wall", but if they do this phone gets pretty annoying (backlight dimming, heavy GPU throttling and I've even managed to overheat camera so it stopped recording 4K video after 2 minutes 15 seconds).a

Unfortunately my english is not as good as I'd like it to be, but I hope I explained few things a bit.
[G3 General] Bukary:
Thank you, bedlamite!

Could you tell us if any of these issues might be fixed with some software updates?
[G3 General] Batfink33:
Thanks for the clarification.

Everytime I open my multitasking I have a look at my RAM bar and its always between 350-400mb so I don't think I have the problem you're having.

I have rooted and FSTRIM runs fine on my G3...

I do agree with you though, there is issues.
[G3 General] liamR:
Guys, the 801 is more than capable of handling QHD, the problem is heating, when the phone gets hot there's aggressive cpu throttling by LG software. The 805 is more powerful with less heat so that's why it more suitable for QHD devices. Same goes to the screen not so bright too much heat.
[G3 General] Kalaidos:
*OFFTOPIC*

Guys please put those high-res pictures in spoilers! They are totally overloading this thread.

Spoiler content hidden.
[G3 General] Sensamic:
No TRIMM??

Is this serious?

I've always feared that most manufacturers don't include TRIMM or take it away from their phones because that way the phone slows down and forces the consumers to upgrade to a newer one.
[G3 General] Batfink33:
The FSTRIM app works fine, I posted this above?
[G3 General] Skizzy034:
LG doesn't release "fix" updates. What you get out of the box is what you get, until they update to the newest Android version. To me, it seems like they have this philosophy of, "Let's get it working just enough to ship out, if there's a few small bugs, then they will have to deal with it. As long as they buy the device, we make money."
[G3 General] Lostatsea23:
So like Samsung?

Lg releases many updates. US carriers might not release them in time but others will benefit.
[G3 General] sabret00the:
But the 805 is designed for tablets. Hence the lack of modem. Thus the 805 plus a modem is more room than the 801. By the time you think about a heat sync too, you need a bigger form factor.
[G3 General] LeVvE:
I think I got 2 or 3 updates on my LG G2 between 4.2 to 4.4. So its not like they didnt update it at all between new android versions.

Maybe G3 will be different. *shrugs*
[G3 General] Enddo:
You know manufacturers can add in a stand alone modem right? Samsung already did this with the Galaxy S5 LTE-A that was released in Korea. There is no need for a bigger form factor lol

LG is already said to be working on a Snapdragon 805 LG G3 too
[G3 General] sabret00the:
It depends on how tightly the insides are packed, from what I saw, the S5 LTE-A sacrificed some radios or something. Honestly didn't care enough to really check.
[G3 General] liamR:
The G3 Prime is on its way, I'm not sure that it will be bigger than the original G3 because the latter is already on the limit to become phablet. I guess we'll find out soon.
[G3 General] Enddo:
exactly
[G3 General] sabret00the:
When I say bigger, I just mean thicker from front to back in terms of the G3.
[G3 General] :
My previous phone was a Nexus 4 and always more than 1 GB of free RAM size.

The free RAM in the G3 is around 300-400 MB, even after the boot.

This don't seems normal for me.

Thanks!
[G3 General] rancur3p1c:
This reviewer has very little too no idea what he's talking about. Read Anandtech review for better reporting
[G3 General] dondavis007:
I suppose you're the living expert of today?

There is also a different phones and fws out there:)
[G3 General] Enddo:
besides the no trimming bit, this guy says the exact same thing that AnandTech said lol

If you're used to a certain level of performance with a 1080p display and the Snapdragon 800 SoC, you will see a very very noticeable difference when using a 1440p display and the Snapdragon 801 SoC. Anand has confirmed this and says that to get the same level of performance we're used to, but with a 1440p display, you HAVE to use a Snapdragon 805 SoC

People love to rag on Samsung, but they knew better than to release the S5 with the 801 and 1440p and they weren't not willing to make that sacrifice for their flagship device
[G3 General] Lostatsea23:
Yep, but the s5 lags more then the he so that's that...
[G3 General] rushless:
All except the Qhd operating with a chipset better suited for 1080p. Will be interesting to see when more heavy users get the device. I expect a general split of light to medium users liking the device a lot and heavy users after a few weeks, not so much.

The sharpness issue though needs to be fixed, regardless. People will notice it more, once the excitement of having a new device wears off.

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Not correct about just for tablets. Case in point, LG and Samsung both have devices coming out soon with the 805. The 805 is a more modular design than the previous 28nm chips, with the 805 being the last.
[G3 General] Lostatsea23:
Yes. I just got it and the sharpness thing is annoying. After it settled for about a day the thing runs really smooth as well. Thoroughly impressed. The 801 performs well for UI.

The battery would be better with the 805 but the battery also started settling in as well. So far I'm happy
[G3 General] rancur3p1c:
he doesn't have much understanding of android memory management, acts like he's never seen thermal throttling, and what does "not as good memory" even mean?

Anandtech said none of those things.

on the thermal side, my Nexus 5 won't run full tilt for more than 5 seconds with all 4 cores maxed out due to the thermal issues.

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compared to this guy, yeah definitely. there's a reason bad engineers write articles-- if they were good enough at what they did, they would be getting paid better to do that
[G3 General] 3rothebassman:
Screen redraw issue solved

I've solved the screen redraw / refresh issue by changing the I/O scheduler RAW to deadline! :)
[G3 General] The War LOrD:
Didn't know G3 has such problems. But I thought Every phone has this problem when it gets old.
[G3 General] messironie:
HI!!!

I did not see anyone complained about caller id picture which is now (on 5.0) a little circle instead full screen and that is just annoying for me! :confused:

Is there some trick step by step to fix this without rooting my smartphone? Thanks in advance! :good:

Sorry for my english :o
[G3 General] shivaagarwal1:
Use G3 tweak box.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] leeblease:
This question has probably been asked a thousand times allready.

How do you install TTN6 on to the wizard?

I have the original TTN6 CDRom with all the keys.

Any help would be greatly aprreciated?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sdnatlst:
put the cd in your drive
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] leeblease:
Ive obvioulsy tried that it will not let me install it
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Jerry-S:
It may help if you give some description of what it is, or isn't doing.

Just asking what may be wrong with no information is a bit vague.