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[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
That and $1 will get Nvidia a cup of coffee (or tea ;) ). Nexi don't sell. Not like mass marketed and distributed products (EG: Samsung). And tablets can't support a chip alone, not enough are sold. There will be 300M+ smartphones sold this year with half being Samsung and Apple who aren't going to be using any Nvidia products. The Chinese won't either as they compete on price so MediaTek's their go-to. What's left isn't enough for Nvidia to build a business around which is what their CEO said in the interview.

In the below charts LG represents Google's phones (along with their own) and Asus represents the Nexus 7 (along with the five tablets they sold under their name ;) ). Hardly enough to warrant Nvidia making a chip that relies solely on that little volume. Only LG took up Teg4 (and outside the U.S.). Don't think they'll be doing that again anytime soon. Mobile devices are a thin margin, ultra competitive, highly scale dependent business. Those that survive will do so based on highest selling price teamed with lowest cost. The latter is why Nvidia's CEO threw in the towel on mobile in May. How and why K1's a matter of discussion is as much your guess as it is mine.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
To summarize, hardware is awesome, TouchWiz sucks but nothing a decent launcher can't solve, screen is pure delight, benchmarks don't matter, $400 after BestBuy trade in deal for this 10.5 inch magazine of everything is worth every penny and then some.
[Galaxy Tab S General] dcaplinger76:
In your opinion is it worth me selling my Tab Pro 8.4 and getting the Tab S 10.5 ? I been on the fence about it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] funb0b:
At least we agree on something Bazza!

I'm not sure of your point?

I didn't purport that they would out sell anything, this is an argument you are having with yourself, you were skeptical of the K1's existence or that it had a vehicle to market or if it did that it would not be supported by third party developers. All proved beyond doubt.

The most popular is not always the best & vice versa.

Not wanting to clog up this thread any further, time for Tea me thinks.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Gaugerer:
I have just compared scrolling on the MarketWatch financial website www.Marketwatch.com on the Nexus 10 and the Galaxy tab S 8.4.

The Galaxy tab S 8.4 produces black lagging bars from the top of the page whilst scrolling which is an annoying artifact which shouldn't be there and is missing on the Nexus 10.

Can someone else please check to see if it happens on their 8.4 to see if it is just a problem with mine.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Depends on your needs. The 10.5 is larger, more cumbersome to hold and heavier. However the larger screen is easier to get work done on and you can read Web pages in portrait without a magnifying glass. I think this is less a choice of should you sell the Pro for the Tab S as a question of which size Tab S is best for you. IMHO the Tab S is clearly a superior experience.

BTW I returned an 8.4 Pro for this and I have no second thoughts. Worth the extra expense (of not only the extra cash for the 10.5 along with a new case but 3 useless cases I now own for the 8.4 ☺)

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I just repeated your experiment on my Tab S 10.5. No lag bars at all on MarketWatch. Just perfect fast scrolling. I am using Dolphin Browser and Go Launcher Ex. Zero lag ever. No idea on 8.4. (BTW I have enabled "Force GPU rendering" in Developer Options. That may help.)

People, ditch the stock browser and TouchWiz. SAMSUNG, great hardware, crap software.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Gaugerer:
Thanks for your reply. I'm using the Boat browser on both of my tablets with stock launcher and when I scroll very quickly black bars appear on the S 8.4.

I don't want to have to customize the S 8.4 to avoid artifacts not there on the Nexus 10.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Well if you insist on using a bloated, horribly coded crapfest like TouchWiz I can't help you. What's wrong with customizing your Tab S? This is xda, playground of people who love to customize their tabs to wring every bit of performance from them. It's not like using an alternate launcher to achieve better speed and vastly greater functionality is labor intensive.

Regardless if you have to stand on principal that the stock launcher must be used, keep the Nexus.
[Galaxy Tab S General] CASz:
I have a video comparison up Tab S vs Tab PRO 8.4: http://youtu.be/3mXWid2RRKQ. It does show the lag. Moved to Apex launcher and it's all better?
[Galaxy Tab S General] Gaugerer:
I take your point and I'm going to install the go launcher, so thanks for your help.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
One cool thing I notice about the Go Launcher is that contrast in my browser seems a bit better. Whites are whiter even at lower brightness. Let me know how you like it.
[Galaxy Tab S General] gottahavit:
How can a launcher effect contrast in your browser? Does it install display filters?
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
No idea but I flipped back and forth between Nova and Go on the same page and the difference was obvious to me. In Go the background of the Web page looked whiter.
[Galaxy Tab S General] gottahavit:
I'll give it a shot when I get back inside. Must say this table is great outside.
[Galaxy Tab S General] gottahavit:
No difference here. Is go launcher adjusting your brightness?
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
Why the S' seem to be garnering lag complaints (stock) when they are essentially identical to the Pro's has been bothering me. If anything, you'd think Samsung would be able to better tune their third generation tablet UI (N10.1-14>Pro's>S') for performance.

I remember reading this a while ago and saying "huh?".

Interestingly, the Samsung Exynos 5 Octa 5420 just seems to come up short versus the Snapdragon 800 in most of these tests. However, there’s a bit more going on than you might expect. We checked for cheating in the benchmarks, and found no evidence that either of these tablets was doing anything unusual in terms of boosting clock speeds.

What we did find is that the Pro 10.1 is frequently not running at maximum frequency – or anywhere near it – in quite a few of our CPU tests.

Specifically, Sunspider, Kraken, and Andebench had the cores hitting

a maximum 1.1-1.3GHz

. The Pro 8.4 meanwhile would typically hit the maximum 2.3GHz clock speed. The result, as you might imagine, is that the 8.4 ends up being faster, sometimes by a sizeable margin. Basemark OS II, Geekbench 3, and AnTuTu on the other hand didn’t have any such odd behavior, with the Pro 10.1 often hitting 1.8-1.9GHz*(on one or more cores)*during the testing, and when that happens it often ends up slightly faster than the Pro 8.4.

Which benchmark results are more "valid"? Well, that's a different subject, but as we're comparing Samsung tablets running more or less the same build of Android, we can reasonably compare the two and say that the 8.4 has better overall performance. Updated drivers or tweaking of the power governor on the 10.1 might change things down the road, but we can only test what exists right now.]

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7886/samsung-galaxy-tab-pro-84-and-101-review/6​

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Maybe Samsung's throttling for battery life and doing it more so on the S'? It would explain the lag. But so would new first-gen display drivers being used for the first time on the S' AMOLED display. Just food for thought.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Well looks like nothing a custom kernel and some overlooking can't solve.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Poser:
#fact
[Galaxy Tab S General] jjfad:
You mean the TabPro gave you *better* battery life? That's disappointing to hear, especially since the reviews of the TabPro weren't glowing about its battery. (I haven't tried either yet. The thing that keeps me from jumping in is I want better-than-iPad-mini battery life, and so far none of the 7-8" Android tablets seem to be able to deliver in that regard .)
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
I'm guessing it's not TW in general but the addition of M-UX which is actually two Samsung UI's being managed in tandem. When the N10.1-14 was on 4.3 it was noticeably more sluggish than the Pro's when they first came out. When the N10.1-14 got updated to 4.4 Samsung didn't include M-UX. Now, based on my seat of the pants observations, the N10.1-14 is noticeably smoother than the Pro's (I've played with all the varieties). The friend's Pro's I've played with have received as many as three "performance" updates which further points to M-UX as a performance drain.

BTW, based on extensive experience with the N10.1-14 and Pro's and about an hour with the S' none of the lag I've witnessed (the N10.1-14 on 4.3 was the worst) was to the point I'd actually say it was "awful." In apps there was little or no lag and transitions, especially with a lot of background processes open, were occasional millisecond stutters at worst. Lag is subjective and bothers some people a lot more than others. I guess I've mellowed as I've gotten older. ;)
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
One of the things which does annoy me on the 10.5 but is not really "lag" per se is how slowly the Notifications Window expands when you swipe down. It is sooo slow and speeding up animations seems to have no effect. I guess that's a part of TouchWiz I just can't escape unless I go with a CM based room.
[Galaxy Tab S General] robertc88:
One can limit background processes in developer options to if they choose to do so. How much an affect that has varies I'm sure.
[Galaxy Tab S General] will6316:
You maybe asking the impossible since the ipad mini battery has a much larger than tab s 8.4. You will need to do some serious tweaking to achieve that.
[Galaxy Tab S General] MarvelousOne35:
I have the tab s 10.5 but I find it strange that I also want to purchase the tab s 8.4 because of my attraction to the super amoled screen. The 10.5 would be for home use and the 8.4 for carrying around outside. Does anyone else have this weird tablet addiction as I do? Also a side note Best Buy price matched the the book cover for my tab s 10.5 for free because of the samsung.com free book cover offering with a tab s purchase. Planned on getting my free book cover with a tab s 8.4 also. Not sure when the promo ends and all Best Buys may not honor it but its worth a try.
[Galaxy Tab S General] cpete47:
You're not alone here. In my mind, I have a perception of the "perfect" tablet, which in reality doesn't/ can't exist; so the concept of "perfection" can only be in the form of various combinations of tablets to meet my wants. I can't say needs because these really are just fancy toys. I can get all of my real work done without problems with just my laptop and phone.
[Galaxy Tab S General] HughesNet:
Shrug. I have the Tab S 8.4, tab S 10.5, tab pro 8.4, iPad mini retina, and surface pro 3. I feel ya.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Really surprised BestBuy matched Samsung on the free cover. It is against their policy to match bundle offers. Got lucky on that one.

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For me the 8.4 falls victim to "big phone syndrome" as I already own a Note 3. Just seemed redundant. The 10.5 feels special. I call it my "world magazine".
[Galaxy Tab S General] dcaplinger76:
Same boat I'm in, I also own Note 3 and then a Tab Pro 8.4 and seems like I force myself to use it just to justify owning it. Gonna sell it and get the 32gb 10.5 S version.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Looked at the Surface PRO 3. Something about the build quality felt cheap and plastic to me, especially the keyboard. What do you think? I already have an Acer R7 with a pen (that I love) and since I don't really need to "walk and write" on a tablet stayed with the R7 for the larger screen and better build.
[Galaxy Tab S General] MarvelousOne35:
And here I thought I had it bad :rolleyes:

Yea I saw on another web thread where some people got lucky and got a free book cover with the sears.com and samsung.com offering but I did see where one guy said his Best Buy didnt match bundles. Mileage definitely varied on getting the free cover and I was one of the lucky ones. I also have a mediapad x1 7 inch phone so I have no business wanting an 8.4 inch tab s but dat screen :eek:
[Galaxy Tab S General] Mr Dasher:
I have the Note Pro 12.2 for home and the Tab S 8.4 for lugging around as well. A Note 4 will complete the set.
[Galaxy Tab S General] CASz:
I got the free case through futureshop. It was a deciding factor for preordering.
[Galaxy Tab S General] AngryDinosaur:
You can decrease resolution and density to increase 2D and 3D performance
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Blasphemy! ☺
[Galaxy Tab S General] AngryDinosaur:
Works with my Asus tf701, makes it ugly but smooth running with every thing ?
[Galaxy Tab S General] HughesNet:
What is the point of buying this model just to do that? Seems counter productive and a tab pro maybe would have been a better pick.
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
Yep you buy this for the eye candy.
[Galaxy Tab S General] AngryDinosaur:
What's the point of putting in 2k screen when the cpu/gpu can't run it without hiccup
[Galaxy Tab S General] mitchellvii:
My 10.5 runs flawlessly using Go Launcher.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ShadowFlare:
Ordered my Tab S 8.4 after playing with it in a Samsung store for a couple days. Can't believe that I have been waiting and waiting for the next AMOLED tablet after Galaxy Tab 7.7, watching out for rumors for weeks... before caving in to a Tab PRO 8.4. Only to discover Sammobile announcing rumor of the Tab S two f'n days later.

So I will be selling my Tab PRO 8.4, despite stories of people's gripes on the device. At least I did several test drives in the store, and I like it. I watch movies on my Tab PRO... but the issue with pink skin tone and the location of the speakers bug me so.

But you what really grinds my gear? If I discover Galaxy NOTE S 8.4 in Super AMOLED PLUS glory rumor to pop up the next couple months.... because I much prefer it with a stylus, since I discovered I like to do some sketching on my Note 3.

I have been watching out for rumors for this thing but nothing so far. Anyone heard anything?
[Galaxy Tab S General] will6316:
No but don't count Sammy out
[Galaxy Tab S General] xRevilatioNx:
You so know Sammy is going to do it. Once they see the financial success, this devices garners them, they'll continue to want to corner the market, throughout every demographic. It's inevitable.
[Galaxy Tab S General] avenging:
waiting for a tab S note version will be painful (must resist urge to buy it the moment it arrives in saudi land)
[Galaxy Tab S General] clintonroche:
I will probably upgrade (???) to a Note S 8.4 if/when it drops. I would love to have the pen function like my note 3 on a larger device.
[Galaxy Tab S General] ShadowFlare:
I will too upgrade to Note S 8.4, it'll be my ideal device.
[Galaxy Tab S General] funb0b:
I guess the vehicle to market question is now moot as of the Sheild Tablet release. I for one am glad I held out as this is the one for moi.
[Galaxy Tab S General] dcaplinger76:
You getting the Shield Tablet? Thinking about grabbing that myself. Keeping my 10.5 Tab S as well , best of both , or at least we'll see
[Galaxy Tab S General] simacca:
I'm considering the shield tablet, but still keeping my 8.4. Price and specs seem good too.
[Galaxy Tab S General] funb0b:
Yeah for sure, although I may hold out for the 32gb version which is to follow the initial release. Not sure I will bother with the controller though.
[Galaxy Tab S General] dcaplinger76:
I've never been known for waiting, gonna go pick mine up in a few hours
[Galaxy Tab S General] funb0b:
Ok cool, let me know what you think.
[Galaxy Tab S General] dcaplinger76:
Will do...

To be thread related, I myself am not disappointed in my Tab S
[Galaxy Tab S General] simacca:
I'd be interested in what you think too. It's not released here yet in the UK.
[Galaxy Tab S General] jutley:
Loving my new 8.4 s tablet I turned adaptive display off and used basic colours I get very good battery and I just did a update very snappy device no lag at all here definetly the best android tablet I have used and I have had many.
[Galaxy Tab S General] pibach:
You are saying, the adaptive display thing plus color enhancement is a performance hog? Did you compare ON versus OFF? Does it affect benchmarks?
[Galaxy Tab S General] planetf1:
Note vs Tab S is so tricky. If there'd have been one out there it's what I would have gone for.

I errred on the side of the note, despite the lovely amoled screen - as with all things tech can only make a decision based on what's out there (or announced). A secondary factor me was web browsing. On my phone (S4, amoled) I use lots of apps, with some browsing. On tablet I use a lot of web browsing (white), and only occasional movies. Both have comprimises, both are excellent devices...

My biggest beef across ALL samsung devices - their upgrade policy. Carrier specific (for phones), country specific too, slow rollouts beyond initial release. So frustrating buying anything not released in last 3 months... something apple have sorted.......
[Galaxy Tab S General] jutley:
I am not sure about benchmarks but my battery life is better with these off use couloir basic.
[Galaxy Tab S General] radiobicho:
Hi, all.

Sorry for this question. Id like to know if the Tab S 10.5 WIFI + 4G has PHONE CALL function, like in Galaxy Note 10.1 2014. Thanks in advance.
[Galaxy Tab S General] Melnificent:
Tried on my 8.4 with LTE and no dice... The phone app is there but the call drops immediately.
[Galaxy Tab S General] jutley:
I love my s 8.4 it will grow on you that screen all that power custom roms what more would you want.
[Galaxy Tab S General] BarryH_GEG:
All Samsung's 3/4G tablets with the exception of the U.S. and Turkey support calling and MMS features. If you're not able to make calls or send MMS it's most likely not enabled on the plan associated with the SIM you're using. Tablets need to be on "smartphone" plans to use phone features. Data plans are just that.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vinmoto:
COOL!!!!!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] info[]box1:
This is going be epic. Right on. Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DonSolo:
So who's going to be the brave user and try this? I'm surprised to see a custom kernel already for Preview L! Kernel source has already been released? i haven't been following
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] melbourne408:
1024 here to stay! Thank you for the L release. :thumbup:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] manfio:
will try this ofc

thank you sir :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jaron7_11:
trying this as soon as i get off work
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] striped121:
Glad there's a kernel out! So thanks! . but Max CPU is stuck at 1574400. If i change to Max it just goes back down after hitting apply?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DonSolo:
What app are you using to control the frequencies?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] beaverhead:
Trickstermod.

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same problem here in trickstermod.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DonSolo:
"set on boot" is selected? Also you might have to copy some cpu.sh files if nothing else works
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vinmoto:
trickstermod CLEAR
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] beaverhead:
now it just right .sheduler row en governor ondemand and cpufrequentie is on.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DonSolo:
Great! I think every Kernel management app isn't going to be compatible with every kernel and vice versa without messing around with a couple of options
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] suprstar29:
I don't know if it is just me, but faux sound doesn't seem to be working. App starts up and says that the kernel is supported, but messing around with the toggles doesn't cause anything to happen. I'm assuming that the app or patch needs to be updated to work with L, or I'm just stupid and an not doing something right.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
Well done Rui, good Job as ever :) [emoji106]

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Stylez Ray.:
Holy ****! Running just as nice as on KitKat. Great job again my fav dev!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jsgraphicart:
I didn't think it was.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] DonSolo:
That's what I thought. When it comes to XDA and the developers of the Open Source world, anything is possible! .. Just flashed it and its running nice so far.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Lento10:
It didn't work for me either, I switched my browser from lighting to Chrome beta and I was able to download the kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] logey18:
Worked ok for me;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] melbourne408:
Chrome beta fixed the issue.

Thank you for all the help you guys.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] javacody:
I can't download from regular Chrome on Android L either.

This worked OK a few days ago.

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Happens to me on Chrome Beta as well.

I can't download whatsoever.

Just keeps saying "download unsuccessful".
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Maybe I merged a commit that prevented download my own kernel :angel:

Download in regular Chrome works fine...

Clear Chrome data, reflash ROM, whatever.

Now back to OT, thanks.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Simer03:
The preview flies now with this kernel! Thanks bro!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] javacody:
Clearing the browser data worked.

But the issue is in your site.

The security check I'm assuming sets a cookie?

Something goes wrong there after a few days and the user is not prompted to reenter the security code.

Do you seriously think that multiple people having issues on your site is user error?

Why all the jumping through hoops and JavaScript anyway?

Why not just post a darn link like other kernel devs?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pmbabu:
I faced the issue on desktop as well and had to enter the captcha. So yeah, something to do with the cookies and it wasn't an issue until at least the day before.

The real stuff (kernel) is great though ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Maybe you're IP's are being blacklisted by cloudfare to unsafe or suspect, ergo the captcha.

1. I don't like your tone.

2. I don't like your demanding attitude.

3. The site has a couple of months, used by several people daily, with massive downloads (just check my other kernel threads). Since it was cloud flared, there was no issues. I already talked to my maintainer (yes people actually help devs and donate time and resources instead of moan) to ease your downloads.

4. Multiple users doing the same error in xda? Wouldn't be the first time. Don't forget you're using a pre release software.

5. You're right, I'm not like other dev's in xda. That's why you have a full featured kernel a couple of days after L source was public. If it wasn't for that lot's of people would still be playing with KK.

6. You're too nervous, just breath and go watch babes on the beach.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] marf28101995:
7. We love the battery life with your kernel, I don't have any problems download it (even when I was in KitKat , long long time blue kernel user ) so what else ?

Nice work you've made L even better Rui

Keep it blue ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Ben36:
Is there a kernel app compatible yet?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pmbabu:
Guess what, that was because I was behind a VPN at that time. Thanks for responding. Without the VPN, the download is fine!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] marf28101995:
Trickster, franco .. Lot of apps that are working xD
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] gn00my:
Latest release running very , very smooth on Android L . battery life is also good as always . now using it as my daily driver .no worries or problems here . keep it up ! :)

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