yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] pof:
Dumped roms cannot be used to flash a device again.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] eeter:
HSDPA is coming after March 2007 in a new ROM ( few week of testing before release )

Blackbery 3G in January :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Mashie:
So are you saying that this Cingular rom does not have HSPDA enabled?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] eeter:
Not yet. In order to make the Holiday sales season ( Nov). Palm had to release it w/o HS. Wait until April for comercial HS soft release
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] hannip:
So there is no way to create a backup of your rom to protect you against a bad update? That's pretty scary. I guess if you have phone insurance it's not as scary.

You can update the imgfs on these devices right? Isn't that what the romtools is for. And I think itsutils can perform writes also. But I guess they don't support reflashing the whole rom. hmm.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] pof:
You can write with pdocwrite, but it is not "safe" unless you know really well what you're doing or you could brick your phone.

On new HTC devices (I can only talk for sure in the Hermes, but I guess the Treo, Artemis, and Trinity as well) the bootlaoder only allows you to flash signed code, and we don't have HTC keys to sign our 'cooked' roms, so even if you manage to make a valid rom you will not be able to flash it :( this means rom cooking is not possible (yet!) on these devices.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] hannip:
wow, bummer
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sparkomatic:
Just an FYI... looks like this Cingular ROM got rid of the VCR style buttons when in voicemail. I can't remember if they were there on the Vodaphone ROM but I think they were.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] doedoe:
Does it have MSN??
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] gpsenzo68:
MSN

YEP!! And it works!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] lcavada:
Just tried my hands at the upgrade.

No way around getting the first file to execute. Kept stopping at the Red numbers, and displaying "Loading". Tried 512MB card, 1GB card, and 2GB card. All formatted on my PC for 32 bits.

Then I just went to step #2.

Loaded up great on a 512MB card, it took a bit to perform updagrade 5 - 6 minutes.

As instructed did the hard reset.

WOW ! WOW ! WOW !

The phone is a speed demon now. It really zips along between commands.

Signal appears better. At my desk at home the Voda ROM would fluctuate in strength from 2 - 4 bars. With the Cingular Rom, it is steady at 4 bars.

We'll see how the puppy behaves during a full day of use tomorrow.

Only reason why I really wanted to update is that since I am in US, the Cingular ROM may be "tuned" for US. ALthough I use Tmobile, we roam on Cingular when we have no signal. We roam on the 850 Cingular band.

After a few days, I'll post follow up.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] zaxxon:
did any of you guys (that did the rom update) notice any roaming with the 750v before you did the update?

If yes, did it change post update?

What else is different?

Thanks,

Zax
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] IrvineKeith:
That sounds very promising!

However, the skeptic in me wonders if this might just be Cingular seeing the same signal strength as Voda's ROM, but assigning it more bars to fool us and make us happy... ;-)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Biglad_UK:
So does this new ROM still have all the great Vodaphone apps like Threaded SMS, Voice Commander etc or has this rom had those things removed ?

Si
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] zaxxon:
Just updated my Treo 750v with the new Cingular ROM (step 2 only).

All went well.

And, I no longer see "roaming"...
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] justin801:
Hi, can you tell me where is the PTTApp Button. Thanks!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Arkay:
Apologies for this noob question: it seems I need an miniSD card reader to make this config change work, is that true? Or can I just copy the files onto the card via the explorer and proceed?

TIA for your answer.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] pof:
@Arkay: you can just copy the files.

@justin801: The PTTApp button i guess is only on Cingular's version of the Treo750 because they will come out with Push-to-Talk functionality, on the Vodafone branded Treo750 I think this button is called Media button, and it is the 3rd button on the left side of the phone, under the volume button (others correct me if i'm wrong, i don't have a treo to look at).
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Arkay:
Cool, thanks.

Follow up question: how do I make sure the miniSD is formatted to FAT32 via my PC connection or the device? I've just gotten a Sandisk UltraII miniSD if that makes a difference.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Mashie:
Can the cingular PPTbutto be re-assigned via the Buttons option? Can it still be assigned to Voice Command?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] pof:
Try the PTTFix from Sleuth255, it works on the Hermes, I don't know if it will be the same for the Treo750:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279585
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Mashie:
Thanks for the link POF, I was actually asking if this hack is even needed. I haven't done the Cingular upgrade yet until I find out if the button is hard coded or not.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sparkomatic:
Yeah, you can assign that button to another app. It gets assigned to Windows Media by default.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Arkay:
I've tried (not knowing if the miniSD is formatted to FAT32 file system as I don't have a card reader) and it didn't work. :(

Copied the file from my PC directly to root directory of the miniSD card.

All I get is screen with bands of color (red on top) and some ID tags and with "USB" at the bottom band. Nothing else happens.

Soft reset brings everything back and nothing seems amiss.

Is this the SD format problem?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sparkomatic:
Not that I'm the expert on this but do you still have a USB cable connected when you're trying this? If the card is formatted and you disconnect all cable and reset, it should work.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Biglad_UK:
Anybody ?

Si
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] zaxxon:
Threaded SMS is still there.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Biglad_UK:
Cool,

So everything is exactley the same except it's a Cingular branded one no Vodaphone.....Would that be true to say ?

Might give this a blast if so cause I'm now using my mine on t-mobile

Si
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sparkomatic:
If I were on T-Mobile, I probably wouldn't use this ROM. Just my opinion though.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Biglad_UK:
Why ?

You can't just say that then not qualify it..

You know I'm in the UK right

Si
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Arkay:
Just tried it with the USB cable disconnected and I get the same effect except it now says "Serial" at the bottom.

The codes on the screen are:"Palm Tr IPL-0.20" and "Palm Tr SPL-0.18.0000".

And how do I check if the card is formatted correctly? I couldn't format the card through the device itself or connection so cannot be sure it's FAT32 file system - how do I check that?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sparkomatic:
I formatted mine using a card reader. I don't know how you can check it if you're using your device to format it.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sparkomatic:
Sure I can :) I'm just saying that the ROM doesn't add anything of value other than Cingular phone on/off screens, the cingular ringtone and a couple of cingular websites in the favorites folder. If I wasn't on Cingular, I wouldn't want to see Cingular stuff on my phone.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Biglad_UK:
But at the firmware version is higher that must surely mean some "under the hood" changes ?

Plus my Treo doesn't work with my BMW Bluetooth CarKit when all my friends WM5 devices do and that stucks.

I'd risk it just for that functionality

Si
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Mashie:
Ok I bit the bullet and did the update. It went flawlessly and everything seems to be working fine. Its nice having the device preset with the Cingular and US regional settings.

I will admit, I think I held my breath during the entire update ;)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sabesh:
Anyone having problems acquiring carrier signal after a soft reset? I each time I reset, it takes progressively longer to get a signal (with Cingular ROM).

Update: The issue has fixed itself after I removed a few apps that I installed previously. Unfortunately, I could not track dow the offending app.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Arkay:
IT'S ALIVE!

Thanks to all who gave the pointers, tips and tricks. I got the update done this afternoon and it worked like a charm! :)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] volition:
Cingular UPGRADE on 750v UK VODAFONE

I've just completed the flash. No problem, as other users, could not get past diagnostic file, but once that got deleted, it went smoothly (4m 16s).

Couple of points:

I could not notice any significant difference performance wise from the shipped Vodafone software. I am on a 4-bar UMTS area, there are no radio fluctuations. Reports exactly the same. More significantly, I sincerely cannot say that the Treo is responding quicker. It certainly isn't responding slower. I'd say it's the same.

Cingular's 1.17.20 cake has MSN as its icing on the top. Some of the installed programs are redundant in the UK and amount to nothing other than URL links that lauch Internet Explorer. Network time, SMS threads, Voice Commands are all implemented (although the first has never produced any results for me with Vodafone!). Personally I find not having Vodafone's business theme a blessing (it's patchy, particularly if you use MagicButton as I do). I had never noticed MEMOs during a call, and that now shows as an option on the Menu. I find it quite useful but suspect was there all along.

HSDPA: Nope. 497.8 kb/s on bandwidthplace.com

Verdict:

If you use MSN (I do) upgrade as it's worth it. But you can install it separately without the need to mess about. It is likely that there are some improvements that are not yet visible and will become apparent with time. For now, it's a safe upgrade.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] canadian student:
Where can you find MSN? Is It WM5.0 MSN? Or the 2003 MSN?

Thanks in advance
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] austin_boy:
New ROM next week

:)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] camsd85:
Anything new or significantly different worth noting?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] drivelikeajerk:
FYI: Formatting the miniSD card on a Mac will NOT work. Even though Disk Utility it says FAT32 formatting, it doesn't work correctly for some reason.

Once I formatted the card on a Windows machine, everything worked smoothly.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Harleyyy:
Cingular ROM on Rogers

Hi,

Thank you for the info...

Will the Cingular Rom work for Rogers? I am in Montreal...

...also, is there any way to get the backup ROM from Voda as i am a little scared to do the update.

Thanks

Harleyyy
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] shwicf:
do i have to get the 750v unlocked before installing cingular rom? Thanks.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] kevnich2:
Send me the cingular ROM?

I'm having problems with my 750v and being able to silence incoming calls with the volume buttons. It doesn't work at all, if I press the volume button either up or down, it just increases or decreases the ringer volume but I want it to actually silence the ringer. The manual says it should but it doesn't. I'm curious if the cingular ROM would fix this issue for me. If it does, could anyone email or send me the cingular ROM update for this phone?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Wiz:
The Cingular rom doesn't do it either. That's because it's not the volume buttons that silences the ringer, it's the action/enter button in the middle of the D-Pad that silences the ringer :-)

Think Palm forgot to mention something in the manual ...
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] mikechadwick:
you silence the ringer with the switch at the top of the phone, not the side buttons
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Drest:
Cingular Updates

I loaded the 750 Cingular rom that was included in this thread and it is full of bugs. Will I be able to load an upgraded version(s), or am I stuck with this? If so, how will I be able to get the latest update?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sabesh:
Drest,

What type of bugs are you having?

Sabesh.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Drest:
Cingular Updates

Several issues...Biggest issue is Bluetooth is very flakey. Lose sound when using bluetooth thru bluetooth earpiece. Lose connection in my car. After a call, it randomly goes to alarm setting.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] carsmovies:
Where's this new ROM?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] gsmphonesource:
I am getting 00058002 at the top of my screen as well. I have reformatted my 2gb Sandisk MiniSD card several times now in FAT32. Any suggestions?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] lcavada:
I too was getting this issue when running the diagnostics software (first program to be attempted).

I ignored this step, and moved to the actual installation of the firmware. Followed the procedure to place file on the memorycard, and it worked quickly and flawlessly.

Good luck
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] sambaman:
Does anybody have the rom? or has anybody got the MSN out of it? if so any chance of it as tried buyin ga copy but will let me buy for a hotmail addy but not my main msn addy! which is a personal email.

Love the phone! Just annoyed no msn!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Clarky7:
I Need Help

Hi all, I'm hoping someone can help because I'm starting to pull my hair out.

I just received my new Treo 750-v from Vodafone and the bloody thing is in Italian. Now, I thought you could change the language somewhere in the settings but no. I then tried to call Palm in England (I'm English you see) and got through to tech support. Tech support tell me that the 750-v is licensed to Vodafone (hence the "v") and that they don't have suport. So, you make the phone but don't have support! Strange!

Anyway the tech guy said you must call Vodafone support, well I live in Italy and have you ever tried calling tech support in Italy? (thats another post). So, tried to call tech support in England but there are no numbers for me to call from overseas.

So, I really would like to know if I can transfer the sofware on my phone into English. Or is the sofware somewhere that I can download. I have tried everything today and now my hair is falling out.

PLEASE HELP

Thanks,

Clarky

P.S. I'm not very technicaly minded so take it easy with me!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] d.cortez:
I have a 750v and when I first set it up and after a hard-reset, I had the option to choose the language. Don't know if yours is the same is mine, but you might try a hard-reset and see if you have you have an option to pick the language.... good luck!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] foofighter:
did anyone happen to save the OE ROM so that one can revert back?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] bubbadmc:
I'm having a similar problem to Clarky7 above. I have a 750v but it's all in German. When I do a hard reset the only language options that I get are 5 variations on German.

Does anyone know where I can find an English ROM please???

Thanks in advance.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] zerimar:
I live in Switzerland and it is impossible to find anything in English. Since I am thinking of buying the Treo 750v, I wrote an email to Palm with the same thing in mind... that Treos had the option of language selection after a hard reset. The reply was that the Treo 750v does not support such feature and advised me to order one in English. As a second proof, Swisscom, the official seller gives one the option to select the desired OS language when ordering.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Clarky7:
Need My Treo In English

Hi Again guys, still no more info in putting this thing in English. If I do a hard reset to see if it gives me a language option, will i lose all info? Seeing as I just got it, all I have are contacts and they are on my SIM.

I mean, if I hard reset will i have to load in windows mobile? I don't want to do that as it's the Italian disc.

I getting tired........why can't these things be simple?

Clarky
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] chakra:
if you read this thread from the begining you will see that the cingular rom upgrade described is in english. all you need to do is to follow the rom upgrade procedure and you will have an english 750v. yes you will loose all of your data.

hmm, it looks like I should read this thread from the begining, they removed the rom. I guess palm was *****ing. Sorry guys
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] dreamscentral:
help installing cingular rom

please i don´t find the english rom anywhere, if anyone has a copy please send it to me centraldreams@gmail.com

and if someone know spanish would be great to put an spanish manual to install the rom, i am a bit confuse jeje

thank you four time
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] doedoe:
I hear that there are two ROMs on the way from Palm/Vodafone. One before christmas and one after. The one after will have HSDPA :)

Before = AKU2.x

After = AKU3.x
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Clarky7:
GGgggrrrrr

Me again!

Not only can I not get this phone put in English, but just downloaded the active sync on my PC and it won't sync with my phone. The disc is Italian, so is the problem window that pops up.

I'm starting to get annoyed with this phone.

Anyone want to buy it?

Maybe someone could burn me a copy of there English disc!!

Any advice would be great. So what actually happened to that ROM link that was removed. Is there no way of finding out where it can be found again?

Clarky
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] mikechadwick:
is this it?

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Cheetah

go to resources, Treo 750 Uploads

takes you to:

Index of ftp://xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Treo750-Cheetah/

click dumped roms

and there you will find:

Treo750v_Dump_Cingular_ROM.zip	16852 KB	7/11/06	04:01:00
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] tstaiano:
Dumped ROM? Does It Work?

But that's a DUMPED ROM; will it work as a new install?

:confused: (sorry for the newb question.)

I don't wanna brick my $700 Treo...
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Mashie:
No, you can not use a dumped rom to flash you device. :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] mikechadwick:
shows what I know about these things
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] mikechadwick:
doedoe

where did you get this info?
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] nhatkhoa:
Hello

I downloaded this dumed rom and can't find a way to upgrade it

If anyone else downloaded this rom and upgraded his phone, please help me by upload it to yousendit.com or megaupload.com ... and send me the links to funnyppc@gmail.com

Thanks you for you help!

My phone is French but i doesn't understand a piece of this language :D
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] Clarky7:
English ROM

So what's the story doedoe. When is vodafone gonna release this ROM before Christmas? Were in December already.

Clarky
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] suidafrika:
Anyone out there with English ROM

If anyone can assist with sourcing English ROM, please email me on rashiedam@hotmail.com.

Cheers
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] dadustar:
Can anyone help me with the English Cingular ROM ,the 2 files for upgrade.Please contact me dadustar@gmail.com or messenger:dadustar

Thank you
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] tiouko:
Palm Treo 700

Does any one know if the Palm Treo 700 is hackable does it have the same hard wares struckture as the HTC wizzard can I unlock it and do evrerything that i can do with a wizzard with it? any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] joshkerr:
I too am interested in upgrading to the cingular rom. I was too late to download it when it was up so if you could kindly email me with a link that would be wonderful. Or just email it to me:

joshkerr[AT]gmail.com

You can send large files to gmail so I should be able to take it.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] patmannyc:
Keep in mind that you are all asking for the OLD ROM Cingular initially put in the 750, which was found to have a TON of problems. Now that the 750 is coming out, hopefully someone will be able to extract the new one, then offer it to us. At least I hope so!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] austin_boy:
be patient guys the new one is comingwith HSDPA
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] patmannyc:
The new Cingular ROM? Not quite.

The first batch of Cingular 750's are rolling out WITHOUT HSDPA. It will be available in a "future update." And don't forget, this is Palm we're talking about! FUTURE could mean many things...

Besides, HSDPA is enabled with a very, VERY easy hack. And I never had problems with it, never had to reinstall, etc. HSDPA is no big deal IMO
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] calicofeline:
I totally agree with patmannyc, I did install the Cingular ROM when it was released and performed the HSDPA hack, which was very easy...I am a heavy user and have had no problems. (Ok, I do reboot once in a great while, but we are talking about a Microsoft OS)
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] satgoblin:
Hi Guys,

I have tried hard to upgrade my Treo 750v in German language.

I need the CINGULAR ROM as it seems that the uploaded ones are not fitting ok becasue it is missing the .NBH file and looks that DUMPED ROMS cannot be used! :(

Can anybody give a megaupload link to freely download the ROM for all those that could not have downloaded it on time please!

This is a desperate pray! :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] teride:
Roaming Icon

Anyone know of a reg hack yet for the Treo 750v to get rid of the roaming icon? I'm still cingy blue & the phone always displays the roaming icon---I cannot assign phone rings specific to anyone it only rings the tone assigned to "roaming". I've never seen a phone with ability to assign a ring tone to "Phone:Roaming". I know it's not that big of a deal...but it's driving me crazy. I don't really want to upgrade to the Cingular ROM if I don't have to.

Help much appreciated.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] fokker:
please send me some rom with english language

My treo is 750v on italian ... please send me that cingular rom.... i can't read this language any more...please...my mail: cg@cg.yu

:mad: :( :( :(
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] carsmovies:
What is the latest Cingular ROM and where do I check to see what ROM I'm running? The only place I see is the About in settings.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] satgoblin:
Looks like people here are simplky ignoring the request for the ROM.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] gpsenzo68:
Ignore? Don't think so!

There are probably 2 reasons why you don't find the rom on FTP:

1. Cingular/Palm has requested it removed othterwise they would take actions against xda-developers.

2. The rom has loads of problems so it's not a plus to install it.

In a few weeks (I we may believe the rumors) there will be a new and stable rom from Vodavone even with a higher AKU so it would be a waste to install the instable rom.
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] satgoblin:
@gpsenzo68

I asked many users here to help me with a Private Message (PM) linking me a rapidshare link where to download it.

This is without any responsability for the Forum admins. it is a simple user2user share.

More the Cingular ROM even if it give you no extra features will always be better than the Vodafone ROM in a fgoreign language (german in my case) where I don't understand a word.

It has been a big con from the Vodafone when they sold it to me. They said that the language could be changed at anytime.

And now? I pay 699 Euro for a crap PDA with no support at all in german language as in my country it was not on sale!!!

I am simply asking users to help me out to turn it at least in English and looks more people are interested just in promoting this very bad quality PDA rather giving a real help to a newbie like me trying hard to get it to work!

Sorry but it is 2 days I am looking all over to get it and NO CHANCE!
[Palm Treo 750 ROM Development] darkjedi:
If I had the Cingular ROM, I'd upload it to my site and share it for everyone.