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[Nexus 4 Android Development] ktomov:
Don't know what you are drinking, but it surely get you to bunnylandia :)

You seriously can't be serious. Intel dual cores outperform amd sixcores cpus on any benchmark. Intel quad cpus outperform AMD octacores on any benchmark and reality check tests :D

Celeron was intel's biggest misery. Low cache, low performance, compared to Klamath and the series after that. This is where the budget comes. They've made low budget cpus and high budget ones. Now their strategy is different - high price, but high quality. AMD are just a joke.

I have nothing more to say, but simply compare scores between my low budget laptop Intel's cpu and AMD's top of the class cpu - http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i7-4702MQ-vs-AMD-FX-8350 ;)

Once upon a time, laptop cpus weren't even 50% close to desktop ones in performance. Currently even low level intel laptop cpu can compare with AMD "top class" crap :D

I don't want to measure our d1cks. So sleep comfortably, knowing that you get less performance from your octa core processor than what you could had with an Intel dual core i5 for instance :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
celeron was there only cpu that was cheap and overclocked to insanity, Intel has single core performance, great for Windows that doesn't have a proper driver for amd cpu and use the Intel ones, on Linux we use threading, each package uses a different core of the cpu and you can use more than one core to speed up a little, want benchmarks go to phoenix
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I thought it was a pissing match?

U are a 100% correct about the Intel laptop CPUs being great as I compile on a laptop and still play modern games on ultra with a first gen i7

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wq2020wdm:
Before you release aosp build,can you test whether it can install g+?I tried several aosp builds,and none can install g+
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
That's a ridiculously easy fix which has me laughing on the aosp builds

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
gmaps lib?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ktomov:
Phoronix :)

First result for phoronix amd vs intel http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=amd_kaveri_7850k&num=3 and the AMD is failing a lot :)

Don't mistake that more cores gives more performance. AMD proved that wrong in anyway :)

Ex.

8 cores AMD CPU with HT gives you 16 threads.

4 cores Intel CPU with HT gives you 8 threads.

The problem? The problem is that every AMD thread is 60% slower in performance than Intel's in calculation power :)

Results - better result for Intel, no matter that AMD has twice the number of threads.

Exactly, I'm not up for a pissing match, getting an exam after 4 hours. I'm not in the mood, but it's so much fun!

AMD can't match anything that Intel does for the last years. That's why Intel's prices are so high, they don't have any real competition on the market. AMD get the low budget/low performance sector, Intel gets the high performance.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
hmmm... i can just imagine what a Tricord system would be performing like had they been able to stick around...

we had linear performace through six 486 processors, with just a slight taper through eight processors

we could handle 2TB of storage in any RAID configuration you wanted with the top of the line (at the time) Seagate Barracuda drives (2.5GB and 7200 rpm)

The systems were fault tolerant and hot swappable...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] wq2020wdm:
But it's hard for me!!I tried several builds yesterday, and I met strange situation. When I clean flash pure aosp,I can't download anything and the phone can't recognize sdcard,but aosp with tweaked kernel can.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
the apu is not a cpu....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] johnb380:
Who uses G+ when u have Aosp gallery lol

I hate that Google is trying to force people to use that damn app to even view my own photos...

Its just more bloatware pushed by Google...

Every update Google Android gets closer to an Apple-esque ecosystem with its apps and such.

Obviously u can root and change things but as far as stock goes its getting close to the A words methods
[Nexus 4 Android Development] haelmchen:
G+ is more than a gallery app. Believe it or not, but there are many people using g+ actively
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ktomov:
You know that APU is CPU with integrated GPU, right? The thing that Intel's cpu't that are compared have? :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
a few million users for backups and social networking

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nope, apu it's just a waste of cpu space, Intel actually has i7 without a gpu inside, non of them used... a shame, those are great on compiling

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nope, apu it's just a waste of cpu space, Intel actually has i7 without a gpu inside, non of them used... a shame, those are great on compiling
[Nexus 4 Android Development] johnb380:
Yes i know this but I just can't FEEL it personally I mean dont get me wrong. I do follow a lot of G+ topics and threads and such but I Dont really USE G+ like I've USED Facebook to me G+ seems closed and stifled to me. And now with Google forcing it on people it is gonna back fire on them mark my words!

But hey that's just my opinion no one else's!

I just never really jumped on the Google plus bandwagon even tho I beta tested it a long time before most people could get an invite in the beginning!

IMHO... G+ is just to damn system intensive and battery hogging also its to busy!

I have long used other apps that solve all the problems that google plus was here to fix.

I just think that its to much in one space that's why a lot of people Dont like it.

Even tho that's somewhat why I was originally attracted to it but to me it just fails to deliver for an app that is written for Android it just isn't polished feeling.

Idk to each his own I guess. I use it just not very much.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
nope, apu it's just a waste of cpu space, Intel actually has i7 without a gpu inside, non of them used... a shame, those are great on compiling

http://ark.intel.com/products/75555/Intel-Core-i7-4700EC-Processor-8M-Cache-up-to-2_70-GHz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kdb424:
AMD don't have hyperthreading and those cares on the newer 6 and 8 cores are 1/2 cores. Don't get me wrong, they are cool, but they aren't real cores. Just like hyperthreading doesn't add real cores. What it does do however is cram more data onto those 4 cores when it would be wasting time, so it's a speed up. With HT on, you decrease the performance of each thread though. As for AMD cores being 60% slower, it really depends on the test. SuperPI, Intel crushes. IT's better at calculating pi inherently. AMD can beat intel clock with enough cores, but the massive issue is not everything uses those cores. If you are doing a mass thread things (like compiling) AMD is gonna win per dollar. The thing is while I have a xeon, I would rather an i5 sometimes. Because when I unzip, or do other tasks (updating my OS, in this case arch) there are single threaded tasks that I have to wait on to do other multi threaded tasks and teh i5 wins in many of those tests. Really depends on what you do and how much you spend on which is better. Intel's 6 cores overclocked always will win. Always. But they cost a ton more, and it's not as cost effective.

just my $.02

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This xeon 1230v2 is actually basically the same thing. It's an i7 ivy bridge minus the GPU for the i5 price. Can't complain.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
cost is an understatement, there last decent cpu for this year http://ark.intel.com/m/products/82930#@product/specifications

it's $2k, I can get a few opteron or a ring of 3 xeon at that price and get the same performance on compiling
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kdb424:
Really depends on what you are doing. Spanning a workload over several machines is hard depending on the task. I have a friend who has a machine with 2 16 thread xeons. Yes, 64 threads. He uses it for rendering images so he can do high detail 3d images live. I didn't even bother to ask the cast, as I don't think I want to know. He has 2 Nvidia titan black in there too as he pushes encodes to those while he rapes the cpus with that massive load. It does pretty well I'd say. Even with all of that, the images are so insanely detailed (polygon wise) he only gets at most 5 FPS on image editing.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
expected, for that load you need tesla cores, the problem it's triple digits for the cheapest
[Nexus 4 Android Development] blankit:
I'd give you a hug and a pack a beer if I could afford it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ezro:
I can't understand last 9 or 10 posts, so I'm gonna drop a cat here and leave.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
it's about compiling and the last 2 about rendering, it's technical stuff
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
I want some of that aosp

True that.

Google is talking so highly about secured android but yet they are getting more and more intrusive.

They want to secure our phones so much that no one else can access our phones except google...:laugh::laugh:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] :
Verifying Future Google Apps Update

I remember reading a while back a lengthy discussion between [MENTION=275009]ramjet73[/MENTION] [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3754150]psycho693[/MENTION] about how the Play Store isn't pushing the updated Google Apps because they're not signed correctly or something :confused: I'll have to dig through about ~100 pages back or so...

I'm not sure if I'm noticing it, or that I'm having to use different appstores more so for updated Google Apps along with apkmirror. Then again, I enjoy pushing early updates as well :cool:

Any way to verify that I would continue to get updates from the Play Store?

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WTF is up with the constant 404s :mad::mad::mad:

I noticed [MENTION=3033284]bpye[/MENTION] is having a similar issue because he quadruple posted :laugh:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] RomyRodriguez:
can someone tell me which beta this image belongs to
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I'll take the hug!!!!

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
That is quite a pretty cat

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hartleyshc:
That was caused by other issues. Either previous stress to the screen (from a drop) or already had an aftermarket frame and screen.

The optimus g actually has an entire shield that disperses heat over a larger area than our mod (the shield in the g goes over the entire logic board). If heat was that much of an issue, blemishes would develop on the screen WAY before enough heat for glass collapse and separation.

If it was an original screen, then my money is on the fact the glass was already weak from too much pressure, or a drop. It would have cracked, mod or not.

It's the same reason you see people say "omg my phone was just sitting on the dash/window and it broke". The strength of the glass had already been compromised.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sandy7874:
Is 22s is a latest build? Just wqnt to confirm b4 flashing.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lightninbug:
No flash build #34
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sandy7874:
Can u pls link me thr.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Nibsalot:
B22 latest on the first page of the thread
[Nexus 4 Android Development] WhitestSand:
I have been wanting to try compiling for quite a few years but have no experience with Linux other than installing different Linux OS's and fooling around with them many years ago.

I'm going to read through all the information that everyone linked to but have a few questions that I don't think they covered.

I am running Windows 8 would it be better to have a VM or a dual boot with Ubuntu.? I have about 64 gigabytes left on my 120 SSD hard drive . And have plenty of extra hard drive space 1 tb or more on various drives.. Running an i7 3770k ( overclocked to 4.5) with 16 gigabytes of RAM.

Any suggestions or ideas on how you would set this up or links to articles that would help me would be very much appreciated from you guys..

I am now 50 years old and not as sharp any more...I've been around computers my whole life and I flashed I think every ROM on my Nexus 4 and other phones too.

Hopefully with your help I could get this going.

And thanks to this awesome thread and all you guys here, keeps me reading for hours and entertained too..??

Sorry for the long post and thanks to all the devs. For their hard work and dedication..

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] nudou350:
Personally, I have a Inspiron 15R, from Dell. It's an I7 built with a Radeon 8850M. It was supposed to be great, but graphic performance is not that great. It's just "fine". I can play top games on high and etc, but it not as smooth as it should be.. Maybe it's due the fact it's a "second card" and it is known as not fully compatible with the primary Intel HD graphics.. If I had the chance, I would change it for sure..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] fr3quency:
Do we have an IRC channel? [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION]

(I don't think so, so why don't we make one? :D)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Truthfully, I would not go the VM route if you don't have to and would dual boot.

As for source size and all, the reason it is recommended for a 100gb for compile is because the source itself is 31gb and then when it compiles, it creates all kinds of temporary files and staging files which total out to about 100 GB at the the end.

You can compile on the ssd though and have it do the out folder for all the temp files on the larger hdd

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kdb424:
If you have more than 16GB ram, you can compile completely in ram. Speeds up build times MASSIVELY. I don't compile android, but I do compile a lot, and my 8GB RAM is enough for that. I'd dropped compile times by 20-50% depending on the app. Also look at zram. It helps out a bit on compiles too into you get into ram as large as 16GB. Compressed swap in ram adds up to a lot that way.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ruicc:
Superb...

Excelent explanation
[Nexus 4 Android Development] WhitestSand:
Thanks.. Man my post was all messed up Tapatalk kept telling me it couldn't connect to the server so I kept trying haha..

While I was thinking about what I was going to post 5 or 6 more pages came through that I had to read haha love it . And it answered some questions thanks..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] RomyRodriguez:
The google now launcher has been ported to non nexus devices? And if the answer is yess, would it have the same effect?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] SimDroid:
The Google Now launcher IS available for non Nexus Devices.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hartleyshc:
You can easily go 2x ram with zram. If you use lz as the compression, its miminal on CPU cycles.

I have enough ram in my server, but I use 2x zram on my laptop. It has a haswell celeron and soldered 2gb ram. Zram is at 4gb and no problems on steam games.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] lewonsky:
Can someone teach me how to port this Rom to galaxy note n7000?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] d9ny:
i've tried it but it still won't work..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
So been digging through the aosp builds for mako and see lots and lots of errors but that funny thing is we fixed all these errors before lol

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Hate Those Damn Compiler Errors

So what's been happening while I was off compiling my Cobol program on the mainframe? The keypunches were busy all afternoon and I had to find a vending machine with some 80 column punch cards for sale so it took me the whole afternoon to get ready for the compile. Now I have to wait overnight for my one turnaround and hope there aren't too many errors when I get the printout in the morning.

Not really, but that's the way it used to be and you guys really should appreciate having your own computers to build systems and compile programs, as it hasn't always been that easy.

I was really out with my daughter for lunch and a movie this afternoon and that was quite enjoyable. We saw Gone Girl, which was pretty strange, but not compared to American Horror Stories. :eek:

Saw all the posts about building from AOSP source so is FrankenROM going to have some babies sometime soon? ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cfrank38:
Jajaja will be difficult. Who will cry : HeS alive HeS alive ?????
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nitin.chobhe:
Installed lpv-79-mako-port-beta3-pre5 and I'm loving it! Thanks for this awesome job! :good:

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Can you post the link to the app that you are using?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Some searching for info might be needed to see if it is working for the n5 guys

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] inimaitimepass:
Hey Mate, my only concern with this port is the huge navbar, I'm never a fan of it and always resize it to 24dpi. So, I tried to decompile the framework from L preview and got errors. I assume apktool or aapt incompatibility could be the issue.

Is there any updated versions of platform tools available from the L sdk, to try decompiling the rom apk's?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] migueldbr:
here you go: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2433588

dont forget to thank [MENTION=4640724]sunshean[/MENTION]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Sorry but none of them work yet and several people have tried

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] SurlyDuff:
Closest thing I found was a mention about the icon appearing white on the handset UI but the phone calls still working. I doubt it's the same issue. The probability seems pretty high that this is port-specific. Maybe it has to do with the Qualcomm Bluetooth binary compatibility with the L preview?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
They are the same files. I must be missing something somewhere. Right now trying the everything but the kitchen sink method on the m7 to fix their issues and if that doesn't work then I'm gonna throw the kitchen sink at them too

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] SurlyDuff:
I dunno if the sink will fit in the passenger seat of my car, but I suppose I can give it a shot! :P
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Oh if need be, the sink will fit even if we have to ram it in

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ruicc:
GMD Auto hide soft keys is working you can hide navbar
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
someone feeling like trying to push these permission xml files into /etc/permissions? trying bluetooth and see if it works properly now? also check out the camera while you are at. wasn't nuvideo connected to the camera?

the google.android.ble.xml is an odd one because even though the n5 L preview has this permission file, it doesn't have the file that it is givien permission to O.o
[Nexus 4 Android Development] equiliym:
i use ultimate dynamic navbar or udn for short, you can get it from the market, tested and working on my n4 without problems.. now just to hide the statusbar... :silly:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] zit_daniel:
Perfect! Could be a little smoother but is perfect! :D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cynepmeh:
I play it but I don't have any issues with it. Works perfect on preview 5
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
ORANGE
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ratchetnclank:
Just thought, i'd let everyone know the lightflow is the cause of this issue.

Update it to the latest version or remove it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
You say that with such certainty. What about those with the problem that don't use lightflow? Do they still remove it?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ratchetnclank:
Well the root cause is apps that display a notification without an icon.

https://code.google.com/p/android-developer-preview/issues/detail?id=667

Lightflow definitely does this behaviour but it's possible other apps can cause it too.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Oh I'm so glad you clarified that. I was thinking that removing the one app that I don't have was going to solve all the problems.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
LOL! You burst my bubble.

I was getting ready to install it just so I could remove it. :laugh:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] :
About Pulse Notification Problem

Those who experienced this like me must be using [MENTION=1316336]defconoi[/MENTION]'s kernel, particularly 92u-a7. This might be because he removed the LED Notifications in that build which might have affected the ROM. I am back to 92u-a6, Pulse Notifications works perfectly.

I already reported this problem in [MENTION=1316336]defconoi[/MENTION]'s thread. Just a heads up for those who are affected by it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I'm just digging through fixing stuff in aosp, can use it for our base for frank also once I fix them

Sent from my LG-D851
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Subhojit:
I'm on latest Hell's Core and have same problem.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Dpat09:
I'm on Hells Core b64, and I have no issues. Running b22.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hmillos:
This thread just became an amazing source of knowledge in several topics, it's simply amazing, thank you syko, Dev team and everyone that share knowledge with us :)

I'm sure I can find someone that can talk about planes with me :eek:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] :
The Internship

I'm starting to picture you two like this [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] and [MENTION=1316336]defconoi[/MENTION]

[youtube]cdnoqCViqUo[/youtube]

The question is: Who's Owen Wilson and who's Vince Vaughn ;)

Who's the tall, dorky, loveable giant and who ends up getting the girl :laugh:

This is extremely awkward "getting to know IRL" :p

Internship at Google
[Nexus 4 Android Development] RomyRodriguez:
I mean the google launcher for android 5.0 lollipop not the old one
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Nibsalot:
Strange. Going back from unleashed 92u-A7 to 92u-A6 fixed the no LED bug for me. Which would mean a kernel issue, so the same bug in Unleashed and Hells?