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[Moto 360] bastardinator:
Hey Guys,

I did a battery life test today with normal (for me, about the same as my pebble) or possibly heavier useage.

Text messages constantly throughout the day. Frequent use (I check time compulsively). Occasional heart rate check, maybe once every hour or two. Several text message voice replies. Constantly listening to music, so always changing tracks via the watch.

Brightness on auto. Ambient mode off. Scatter plot attached. I'm not SUPER satisfied with the battery life, but it outlasted my phone, so it wouldn't have really mattered anyway...

8:45AM	100%

11:02AM	89%

12:01PM	80%

1:03PM	72%

2:04PM	65%

3:06PM	59%

4:00PM	55%

4:59PM	43%

6:00PM	38%

7:02PM	33%

8:00PM	26%

9:00PM	21%

10:00PM	17%
[Moto 360] dpwhitty11:
On my first full day, I took it off the charger at 9am. It just died on me at 10:10pm. I'd say I had very heavy usage today. 2 hours of navigation, 3 hours of driving, 3 hours of music, a couple dozen texts and half a dozen emails. Ambient mode was off. And to add to that, I played around in general on it a while bunch at work. Tomorrow should yield even better results, I'm loving it.
[Moto 360] Squeak22:
I took mine off the charger yesterday at 7:15, at 8:30 the next day I'm sitting at 38%. I should be able to make it to the end of the day at work and just put it on the charger when I get home.
[Moto 360] kpjimmy:
Try auto brightness to level 1 and see how well it does? I get less than 5%/hr discharge then on 'normal' usage and using facer! I did turn the heart rate monitor to "fit".
[Moto 360] Locklear308:
I'm so glad to see these numbers
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Well it certainly looks like the battery life is hurt by the gesture screen-on...

I charged fully at night and plotted the discharge without it being on my wrist for most of the night (but still auto brightness and playing with it a bit before bed and in morning):

9/16/2014 20:25	100

9/16/2014 21:45	95

9/16/2014 22:40	91

9/17/2014 4:00	80

9/17/2014 7:45	72

The trendline shows just shy of 48 hours! Now I'm really am curious to see how long the battery lasts with no gesture screen-on!

I bet my graph will fall short now that I'm wearing it and it's turning on randomly lol
[Moto 360] Character Zero:
I got almost 4 days with it just in a drawer, no wearing.
[Moto 360] smeiff:
Just out of curiousity, will a black on white watch face kill my battery quicker vs white on black? I was reading how AMOLED works different in that select pixels can be lit up, however this is LCD,
[Moto 360] bastardinator:
I...run around a lot indoors/outdoors/basements/superbrightrooms at work (science!) and the auto brightness is most of the reason I got the moto 360. I'm satisfied with the 14-16 hour battery life. Pretty sure it'll get better with the 2.0 update (I hope...).

Not really checking today, but I graphed it for a few values. The 14-16 hours figure/slope looks exactly the same today so I'm OK.

I was going to do a few days at the same times to get error bars, but **** it.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Yeah you're right the colors in the LCD aren't power hungry, it's just whether the backlight is on or not that affects battery really.

Hahaha
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
It's also how bright the backlight is. Run it at full strength, and you'll get much less battery life than running it at the lowest strength.
[Moto 360] tErbo b00st:
Is everyone that is getting 18+ hours of battery life on auto brightness?

I don't mind having ambient mode off, but auto brightness is a must (personally). I have been getting around 14 hours of battery life, just finished my third full day. I get a TON of hangout messages as I am in several active group chats. Is this killing my battery? I really wish hangout group chat notifications was a little more "smart", notifying you for the first message, but not for every message as your friends have a conversation for 20 minutes.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
I would think, after the screen backlight, the little vibration is probably the most power hungry feature...

I agree about hangouts, it looks like they only offer on or off notifications, not first message only...

https://support.google.com/hangouts/answer/3111923?hl=en
[Moto 360] osucowboy96:
I'm on auto brightness, and today after 15 hours I'm still at 40%. Third party watch faces will drain it faster, though. Yesterday with a third party face it was dead under 12 hours. Today was with stock face.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Here's my data for stock minimal face, typical usage; ended 24hrs 30min after charge with 23% remaining:

-Notice that 9 hours overnight only uses 28% battery, while daytime usage drains the same percent in just over 6 hours.
[Moto 360] electric0ant:
Are you guys using it with the ambient screen on or off?

I've started with the pebble, went onto the samsung gear and now using a LG G watch. After experience using all these I have found that to me having the screen off and needing to tilt my wrist to see the time is a deal breaker for me.

I'm guessing these results are with the ambient mode off? so sad, I was soooo looking forward to the moto360.
[Moto 360] forsaken82:
off the charger at 6am yesterday morning, put it back on at midnight with 20% charge left. ambient mode off and brightness to auto. battery life keeps getting better!
[Moto 360] madtownmichelle:
I got my 360 a weeks ago and, like others have mentioned, the battery seems to get better with successive charging. Just to be safe I picked up a PowerBot PB1020 charger from Amazon for $15 to carry around/use at work, and it works fine with both the 360 and Droid Maxx. It is very compact and the watch lays flat on it (with the leather band at least). Worth it to me to have that assurance, especially since I also carry a PowerStick.
[Moto 360] gtdriver0036:
Ambient screen off for sure. I find the wrist twist gesture to be pretty responsive and haven't felt the need to put ambient mode on. In fact the thought that the screen is on wasting precious juice when i can't even see it is a thought that bothers me. The only people ambient mode benefits are the people around me that can see my screen. This is only my opinion and as always your mileage may vary.
[Moto 360] jrdejavux:
what app are you guys using to track the battery on the 360?
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
mine is called microsoft excel lol, but you're right there should be an app...
[Moto 360] jrdejavux:
lol thought it was an app OH Well!
[Moto 360] play2lose:
They definitely should add a no-gesture option. Where you either just tap the screen to turn it on, or have to press the power button which probably would save even more battery being able to keep the touchscreen off.
[Moto 360] bakaz:
I got my m360 a week ago despite the horror stories about the battery. I was prepared to deal with frequent charging.

I typically wear mine for 17 hours a day and the lowest it's ever been at the end of the day is 24%. Last night it was still at 39% after 17 hours. Usually I'm around 30% before hitting the sack. I've noticed that I get better life during the week even though I get more emails/texts/etc... On weekdays I'm sitting inside in front of a computer for half that time. So I'll see the notification on the watch but I'll read it / dismiss it on my laptop. This is with brightness set to auto and ambient turned off. On weekends I'm outside and active a lot more, so the battery doesn't do as well.

You can also pick up another 2 hours of battery in about 10 minutes on the charger. So it's not the end of the world if you are running low.
[Moto 360] etc6849:
Mine is at 60% with brightness set to 4, the screen on all the time and moderate use after 12.5 hours. Oh wait, that's my Gear Live watch. I had to return two Moto 360's due to bad pixels!
[Moto 360] MRCANNADY:
And yet you're still posting in the moto forum? Gear Live sucks that badly huh? I get through 24 hrs easily with my Moto 360, strangers just love the look of it, and it doesn't feel or look cheesy, Q1 charging in about two hrs (proprietary charging =sucks) This is one beautiful looking watch that works well. Yeah, I'll stick with the moto instead of the Gear live.
[Moto 360] etc6849:
Thanks for the personal attack on me for returning two defective Moto 360's. I hope you have stuck pixels too like all these folks: http://xdaforums.com/moto-360/help/dead-pixels-t2869454

Also my Gear Live will last 2 days if I didn't have screen on going all the time, but I like it that way so get over yourself. I use my watch for home automation, so google voice search gets used a lot. Lastly, at least it doesn't have stuck pixels like the numerous Moto 360's I had to return.
[Moto 360] MRCANNADY:
Two with he same issues huh? I guess you just have really bad luck. :rolleyes:

Anyway, I have owned my moto 360 for seven days now, and have noticed great battery improvement. I'm currently at 25 hours with normal usage, which includes text/email notifications, traffic notifications, etc, brightness set at 1, and my screen is still easily visible in sunlight unlike most of the smart watches out now. My battery is currently at 43%, which is great for me! I going to try and see if i can make it through another day without charging my moto.

I would recommend that everyone start off constantly charging the moto, as I did not really wait until the battery was dead during my first few days of usage.
[Moto 360] synplex:
I made a Graph of my tests for 2 Day with and without Ambient mode on:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-360/general/moto-360-2-day-battery-test-graphs-t2880565

:good:
[Moto 360] sshark:
Got pretty decent battery on day 1 use...

Set up is as follows:

Ambient off, brightness set to 1

I get fair share of notifications (bunch of emails, texts, calendar invites etc.). With that I started at 7:30am with 100% battery after several notifications, distance requests etc. I am at 28% at 10:30pm.

Hopefully, battery will get better from this point forward!
[Moto 360] skally:
Shortest battery life

Has anyone tested how FAST they can kill the battery? I don't mean defective units, but from the perspective of using it continuously until it dies?
[Moto 360] aviatordoc:
My observations:

First day had ambient mode on, screen brightness 100% - lasted half a day. Of course, new toy, was always pickin on it.

Next day with ambient mode off lasted a few hours longer.

Changed the brightness to 50%, which is still functional, and am getting somewhere.

Next will be a trial on screen in Auto mode.

Anyone with similar trials please report as well.
[Moto 360] synplex:
Probably in a few hours is you had a game running or something like pixtoCam that never lets you screen shut off.
[Moto 360] joshua.justice:
I took mine off at 10am and got texts/emails at a probably 10 total an hour and I put on the charger at 11pm at about 19%
[Moto 360] skally:
I can guess it will be a few hours myself, i am looking for more accurate numbers. Is it possible to run it down in 2 hours? 3? 4?
[Moto 360] Shadowguy:
After several charge cycles I took off charger at about 1:00pm now 4:00am still sitting with 40% battery left.

Definitely acceptable IMO. Shoot my phone has a lower battery percentage Lol
[Moto 360] play2lose:
Weird....I took mine off the charger at 1pm today and it's exactly 4am for me now haha.

18% battery left though, so you win. Definitely acceptable though, considering my LG G2 already died today, charged back to 30%, and now is down to 10%. The Moto 360 outlasts the LG G2, can't really ask for more than that!
[Moto 360] DroidDavi:
After my 1st day ota went well off at 6am put back in at 6pm with about 35% left. Since it was my 1st day at work with it I showed it off a good bit so that's even more drain that won't happen on a normal day.
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
That's more down to the phone itself, though -- plenty of phones will make it through a couple of days without seeing a charger. Heck, my Xperia Z2 will manage 11+ hours of screen on time, and if I keep screen usage to a minimum, 4-5 days of power-on between charges.

But that's a completely different form factor -- a phone has much more room for battery than a watch does.
[Moto 360] DroidDavi:
Day 2 battery life is fine . 7 hours off the charger and I'm at 71%. I also used run keeper for about 30 min this morning and the battery held up well
[Moto 360] jiggad369:
Leave house at 8am and return about 8 pm.

Usually the battery is around 70% left.

Nothing is turned off, running few apps, check texts, notifications, etc.

I'm satisfied.
[Moto 360] KidJoe:
Took the 360 off the charger about 10AM yesterday morning. Went to the office. Got lots of notifications, changed watched faces with Facer a few times (trying new ones out). Went to bed about 11:10pm and had 43% battery left.

Left the 360 on the night stand, rather than putting it on the charger, and at 7:25 this morning it had 26%.

Its back on the charger while I get ready for work, and get the kid off to school.
[Moto 360] corrado85:
it seems like after first couple days, the battery life has gotten a lot! better

what could be the cause..:confused:
[Moto 360] kandelai:
Isn't this normal? It is called battery burn-in. Normally, they suggest three days and each of those days you should let your battery run out completely before charging for proper burn-in.
[Moto 360] ChodTheWacko:
Since the battery only takes what - and hour (?) to charge, I'm wondering if it's a bad idea to leave it on the charger all night.

Depends on the charger I guess?
[Moto 360] cvenk:
I have a second thought as well. I'm thinking if I put the watch on my charger, It would be a good idea, if a put in the wall charger some kind of timer to put the electric at 4am to 7am, and than the moto would charge just that and I would have 100% when I leave my home.
[Moto 360] Do_Whut_Now:
Seemingly improved battery life after KGW42R update

Got a somewhat pleasant surprise. After 11 hours off the charger, I still have 70% battery life left. I received a firmware update to build KGW42R yesterday, and it appears to have improved the battery life. I did navigation for 20 minutes this morning and have been receiving about 4 notifications per hour. Anybody else got the update and noticed an improvement in battery life?
[Moto 360] mrjbn:
I haven't updated to the new firmware yet but on the old one, I've been having great battery life.

Off charging: 7:00AM

Time now: 12:44AM

Battery left: 10%

Navigation: ~30 mins with music controls

Settings: 1 brightness, ambient mode off

Apps: wear hotspot, tip calculator, volume, calendar, sleepwear, mini launcher, find my phone, tockle

Phone: Note 3 with CM 10

I am pleasantly surprised of the battery life. Definitely lasting longer than I anticipated.
[Moto 360] jonstatt:
I haven't had the new firmware yet, but have only done my second charge of the battery and it still had 30% left, 24 hours later, with plenty of notifications and ambient mode enabled.
[Moto 360] kandelai:
It was pointed out in one of my Android Podcasts that some of the initial reviewers, ie The Verge, had not even had it for 12 hours and yet they are commenting on long-term battery life. That is why I never listen to just-released product reviews.
[Moto 360] vicm96:
Seriously how you guys do it. I pick up my moto 360 two days ago. I have a gear live as well.

First day only lasted 7am until 2 pm fully charge. Full brightness and ambient light on.

Today auto brightness and ambient light off. 7am to 5pm.

Do I have a defective moto 360.

My gear live last from 7am to 11pm an still 20% battery left at full brightness and ambient

Mode on.

Please help
[Moto 360] mk92595:
Battery life has been horrible. It drained 30% in an hour. Ambient off and screen auto
[Moto 360] kramdens:
Can't complain so far, after 11 hours I'm at 48% with moderate use. A few reminders set, replying to some messages with voice, a lot of notifications, and constent checking my battery lol. Also controlled my music

at the gym.
[Moto 360] vicm96:
Can you share your settings. I reset everything default no additional app or even extra

Watch faces. I will be happy to get your results.
[Moto 360] mitsueks:
I am on my second week, average 4% to 5% an hour with brightness at 3. Easily covers a full day. Been off the charger since 7:15 am and now at 8:06 pm I am at 49%
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
Respectfully, I don't believe that for one second. Whichever podcast that was, they were almost certainly speculating or simply made it up.
[Moto 360] kandelai:
Respectively, I don't believe your view for one second, and do believe Android Central. It is mentioned here at the 14:40 mark; http://youtu.be/BbkfkRf1cVE?list=UU-kFCSJLpxuJdgMnQz8Dvrg
[Moto 360] ChrisNee1988:
Josh from TheVerge was spotted having the moto 360 long before release. However that may have been before the update that helped battery life a lot.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Long live the new update and it's (estimated) FIVE DAY battery life!

:laugh:
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
Respectfully, review sites aren't in the habit of telling their competitors when they receive a product under non-disclosure agreement. Plus it's been widely reported elsewhere that Verge staff were seen with the 360 long before launch.
[Moto 360] thesparky007:
Same here! I am at 41% after 15hrs of heavy use! I would be down to 25% or so by now with moderate usage before the update!
[Moto 360] kandelai:
Respectfully, I think you can see the Verge staff wearing them in this clip if it weren't for....well.... http://img.gawkerassets.com/img/17pjv75uetg0sgif/original.gif
[Moto 360] knoxploration:
Ah, so you've got an axe to grind and will believe whatever reaffirms your existing beliefs. Fair enough.
[Moto 360] nightfishing:
Day one on the new firmware.

50% after 13 hrs of heavy use with third party faces on most of the day.
[Moto 360] Fedway:
I received the update today and immediately turned Ambient Screen mode on. So far, so good. It looks like i'm getting about 5%/hr with moderate use. Not bad at all.
[Moto 360] dennishhh:
Forced update yesterday battery life has increased exponentially. 14 hours at 61% moderate usage with notifications, timers, many emails and text messages. Watch face is stock minimal with most of the day spent on brightness one and a couple hours while I was outside on auto brightness no ambient mode on.
[Moto 360] etc6849:
You should be able to get 12-16 hours of use out of it. Uninstall Facer or any third party watch face. Facer drains my battery like crazy. This morning I went from 100% to 71% in a little over an hour. As much as I like Facer, I had to uninstall it...
[Moto 360] mk92595:
I don't have that problem. I'm using facer too.

Took it off the charger at 9:20am EST

Its currently 30% at 10:07PM.

2nd day after using it so I expect even better battery life soon
[Moto 360] aviatordoc:
Same here with me.

Just came home after taking the update yesterday, and after 14 hrs of heavy use I came home with 58% remaining. My M8 doing same duty has 24%.
[Moto 360] etc6849:
Maybe it depends on which watch face you use, but Facer really eats my battery on the two faces I tried. I am using a Moto X with a stock rom, but I doubt that's the cause of my battery drain.
[Moto 360] v3ngence:
Breaking news at 11:

KGW42R update doubles battery life!?

http://xdaforums.com/moto-360/general/effects-watch-style-battery-runtime-t2883094
[Moto 360] Outlaw78a:
Confirming much longer battery life(16hrs+) without ANY third party apps, Moto Connect will have do for customizing the stock faces.
[Moto 360] snowwhite007:
Just got mine three days ago as I'm on vacation in Florida. Take watch off about 8am and at 10pm it has around 20% and I'm using Facer as well as receiving loads of notifications all day. I probably look at it to much as well because its new.
[Moto 360] lanwarrior:
I only have Wear Mini Launcher and Speed watch face installed. Took of from charger, from 100% to 86% in 1 hour !?

Yes, I have the latest version: KGW42R
[Moto 360] NaterTots:
The speed watch face is a known battery hog with the seconds hand moving fluidly.
[Moto 360] lanwarrior:
I use the Discrete option to not have the continues second hand
[Moto 360] Character Zero:
How long is the charge taking?
[Moto 360] EVOme:
Well if you judge by my posts....it was at 13% at 1:56. It's now at 89% at 2:55
[Moto 360] Character Zero:
Ok so full charge about 90 mins or so. Not bad.
[Moto 360] EVOme:
You also have to use the cable that came with it. I just plugged another Musb cable in and the power % started to go down.
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
I really hope the battery life is not that bad, if it is, I would really consider canceling my order. I need at least 12 hours out of it on a normal day.
[Moto 360] mk92595:
Damn battery life is horrible isn't it? I guess I might just sell mine if its not gonna last me the whole day
[Moto 360] EVOme:
It's been at 96% for the last 20 mins or so. I'm hoping it'll be fine. I thought it would be at 100% before I leave work in 30 mins.
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Is the screen staying off for the most part? My only fear is that the battery life is truly crap and that it can't be fixed by software cause of such a small battery.

Edit: At that rate, you will only be getting on average 8 hours of battery per day if I did the math right.
[Moto 360] brucipher:
I put mine on the charger around 1:30pm at 22% and was at 100% by 3pm...so 90 minutes sounds about right...
[Moto 360] Jonny:
Hmmm... just to point out that for the most part, these reviewers or journalists like theverge site will have been actively using the watch more than most people will in the day as they are reviewing it. I would be very surprised if 12 hours is the max you'll get out of it.

Give it a couple of days to get over actually having it and using it, then you'll start to treat it like just a watch and stop fiddling with it every 5 mins, then you'll probably see battery life improve.

Just speculation... ;)
[Moto 360] EVOme:
I've found that you can't turn off the wrist lift screen on feature. That causes batt drain. The pedometer is on and can't turn off either.
[Moto 360] akellar:
Pedometer is always counting on all wear devices AFAIK
[Moto 360] RunNgun42:
All of these 12 hour claims are coming from a single source whom I bet botched the testing process by using it non-stop. I mean how are they just now releasing a review of the device on the same day it came out already knowing what the battery life is? Did Moto give one to The Verge to trial for a week so they would have a review ready and waiting that completely contradicts moto's own claims of battery life? Seems to me like some jackass just averaged out the current rate of drain and said "welp, if it uses 10% 1 hour then that means it gets about 10 hours !!"

Cmon, moto promised it would get up to 2 days. My G watch lasts about 20 hours under heavy use and it has a more battery hungry LCD display and the screen is ALWAYS ON. I simply refuse to believe that the 360 gets 12 hours under NORMAL conditions. I dont even think moto would release something like this, and I'm not one of those idiots saying a smartwatch needs to last an entire month without a charge. I think charging every night is acceptable, but it has to last an ENTIRE day, up to 24 hours preferably.

I await the REAL WORLD reviews on this forum, thanks for your input.

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Can you set it so the screen is always ON? My G watch never turns off, it just dims when not in use. I like this so I can glance at it without having to flick my wrist and rely on the 50% chance it actually wakes up.
[Moto 360] PsychDrummer:
I agree. While it does slightly worry me that both Moto and Google Play give a footnote next to "all day use", I'm going to be the judge of the battery myself. There's no way they had more than a couple of days (if that) to review the unit so I would take all the first day reviews with a grain of salt.
[Moto 360] EVOme:
There is an screen always on setting that I have off. There is also an ambient on that makes the screen so faint that you can always see it. I believe the always on keeps it bright and on. The ambient keeps it on and dim. When you turn it on it tells you it affects the batt life.

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BTW, my battery is at 63% and it was at 100% at roughly 4pm.