yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
This is getting real confusing.

You're saying flashing the zip file from the simulated SD card prevents turning off journaling for the data partition because it has current activity.

You're also saying that by commenting out all the data partition related statements with a "# " in the first two columns so there is no chance these zip files will affect the journaling status of the data partition.

So do we or don't we want to stop journaling in data partition?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
That's up to you, but the most risk of data loss is with the data partition, and probably the most performance benefit as well. I don't keep anything on my simulated SD card that can't be replaced (except maybe some photos), and it's not like you will lose much if a single update is lost, but there is also the possibility of corruption in the file system. So keeping journaling on the data partition is the conservative but safe approach. I'm still planning to run without a journal on the data partition once I figure out the best way to turn it off.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
Is there a way to find out whether journaling in data partition has stopped or not?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I'm far from a expert myself when it comes file systems other then how they work and their purposes.

I thought the big thing and why most systems upgraded to ext4 was the journalling and improving system integrity during power failures and so forth.

Therefore turning off journalling in /system and /cache seems relatively safe but doing so on /data might be volatile or it could be relativity safe since we only upgraded to ext4 on android in the past couple years and it really wasn't a problem before.

My biggest thing would then be abrupt power cuts like the simulated battery pull and running the phone down to 0% battery could cause data loss but that isn't really something that needs to be worried about beyond /data
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
The tune2fs command for that is in my original post on journaling but needs to be issued from ADB shell or the terminal emulator when booted into TWRP. That just indicates whether or not the partition is currently configured for journaling.

For checking journal status during Android operations, I don't know.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] perez6991:
Ah, alright. Thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
While this article is a tear down of F2FS, he does go into detail on the different file systems and their pros and cons....

http://lwn.net/Articles/518988/
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
And here's a brief synopsis of the differences between the ext file systems. Note that journaling is also included in with ext3 but cannot be turned off.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
I wish... Then I can rename all of the ROM's Googley ROM's ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
All I want for Christmas...

http://www.wowwee.com/mip/
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kittuboy:
Imagine some reader's shock when s/he comes searching for Googley's(TM) L preview and finds [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] spearheading Google's L preview instead...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] giga80:
Location problem

i think the most annoying problem is that the location is always on High accuracy mode .. even if i change it to battery saving

i know is a known bug but i am asking if there is a fix for it because its drain the battery fast

thanks for the great work
[Nexus 4 Android Development] djsubterrain:
Yup, dipped my toe in Beta 3 preview 3 and went running back to the safety of Beta 2 :)

Just for info sake, Data didn't seem to be working on Beta 3 Preview 3 for my provider (giffgaff UK)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Sturdy_99:
Not updated to beta 3 coz beta 2 is not giving any issue to me...i will update when there are many major changes...

Enjoying this rom a lot.;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dude1986:
same here.... no issue with beta 2.... and have a good battery life :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Sturdy_99:
Which kernels work on this port?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ruicc:
People are reporting that hellcore, franco and ak are working...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cpanos:
This kernel (SaberMod Franco.Kernel) was reported working with beta3

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-4/development/sabermod-franco-kernel-aosp-cm-testing-t2548897

ak only works with beta2, since beta 3 reverted some wifi driver stuff.

havent tested hellcore with beta3.

as far as franco goes, I think his kernel changes the ramdisk so most likely it breaks ROM.

EDIT: SaberMod Franco.Kernel gives me a bootloop on beta3.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Sturdy_99:
Thnkz....Hellscore is giving some problems with the port i read it in his thread...will try out ak and franco as i am on beta 2..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cpanos:
franco wont work. I can confirm ak working perfect with beta 2.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sandy7874:
Hells Core working

I confirm that Hellscore is working with Beta3.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cpanos:
WiFi working there too?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] giga80:
bug report

OK Google doesn't good and when i said ok google play some music or play any artist it's open the google play music and do nothing

google pluse home screen there is a shadow on the top of the page
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ak0r:
Yes. All good with HellsCore :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] amarb70:
[MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] I have a suggestion for the thread. Since this thread is the new hot topic in the nexus 4 development (congratulations on that's and all the hard work you put in to make it possible) :beer:

I would like to suggest having an update to what the latest version is in the thread title. This way it will be easier for people to see if there's any new updates and for them to stop asking if there is a new update; in case they missed the post with the zips you put guys put out.

Life is sh!t.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dodgebizkit:
On 3 ak fails (kills WiFi), franco is perfect

AK is great on beta 2

Since the last time I flashed a kernel someone has requested that we don't flash kernels in order to help the devs, however if your daily driver is unusable because of the battery life, if you are on beta 3 flash the compatible Franco kernel, if you are on beta 2 flash the ak300

Id be interested in learning the (plain English) advantages and disadvantages of hellscore - perhaps if you could pm me so we can keep the thread free of too much digression from the topic?:)

Hope this helps you

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Sent from Android L for Loser, Lemon or Lesbian Pie.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] cynepmeh:
You have to go to Google settings and enable the OK Google detection. It will ask you to say 3 times the magic word so it can sample your voice and than it should work
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Rohit02:
Can someone please confirm beta 3 solves the battery drain issue(Misc drain)?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] KuRouZu:
Slow charging

Has anyone noticed that charging phone is very very slow? Any idea how to fix it? I'm in beta2
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jithuelad:
I am on Beta 2 and looks like i am facing very low speed on internet. Application installations taking ages, Even whatsapp message is taking time to send. :( What could be the culprit ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sohamssd:
Hmm, I thought it was just me.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CamoGeko:
Many people will be confused and angry...

On a personal note, I'm back on the lovely N4 as my daily device. Kinda missed it to be honest, it is more perfect to hold and to use than the M7. That's even before we go into L haha, I've tried to mimic the ROM by using L-Kat themes on my M7 but its not the same. :(

Sent using N⁴ with Android L
[Nexus 4 Android Development] criminalzen:
new nexus ?

" "As for the overall appearance of the device, it’s basically going to be a scaled up 2nd generation Moto X with some minor tweaks to make the larger size easier to use," the report says. It'll have the same fantastic aluminum frame, and Motorola has apparently moved the phone's lock and volume buttons down to make them more reachable. In terms of hardware, Motorola is apparently going for broke, packing a QHD display, Snapdragon 805 processor, and 3GB of RAM into its Nexus phablet. The camera is said to house a 12-megapixel sensor, and looks nearly identical to what's now on the Moto X, 9to5Google says."

http://www.theverge.com/2014/9/25/6843537/google-new-nexus-will-be-a-supersized-moto-x
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
There's talk of two different platforms, 5.9" and 5.2".
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CamoGeko:
I'm not happy about this and I bet lots of other people won't be either. I believe smartphones should stay at no more than 4.7 inches. Nexus 4 is that size and it feels perfect in hand, even my M7 isn't as comfortable to hold and use as the N4 is and that's saying something. LG actually came through like a partisan on the design front.

Anything over 5 inches should be classed as a phablet imo.

Sent using N⁴ with Android L
[Nexus 4 Android Development] TigerV:
+1
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
+50

I won't buy a phablet nexus... I will buy a phone Nexus and a tablet nexus... Not an all in one creepy slop..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] brsclkr:
if the screen size true and 5.9 inches, i bet it will be huge fail !!! if i wanna buy smartphone at that size, i prefer galaxy note series. what can i do on that screen with stock android ?? no pen, no apps for business, no multi window.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] m374llic4:
Hey guys, I am a bit confused. Is this rom usable and working? I am sure the base OS is fine, but is the radio and apps and things like that working so that I can install it on my phone and use it daily?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I want a 5.5 nexus.....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Nope, you can only use it weekly
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Yes, for real phone use 6" is a bit much.

More and more though, our phone are becoming a computer that can dial, rather than a phone that has computer functionality. Just compare your cell time to your SOT or other battery measures.

Personally, I'm looking to go up a bit in size. I'm older and farsighted, being able to use "huge" text and have it be huge is, well, huge.

Yes it's a bit older, but I'm going for the LG G2. Still a usable size at less than a 1/4" taller and 9/100" wider, but screen is 5.2". When the SlimPort arrives for this N4, I'll be able to use it with the G2. At roughly half the cost of the upcoming Nexus, it will be easier on the wallet too.

Now, in my previous life of technical sales support, I'd have given both pinkie fingers and a toe to have something like that 5.9" phablet. It would have meant not carrying two 15 lb laptops. Try lugging that around through an airport with your garment bag and other sh-tuff, while trying to get through security (worse now) and on and off the plane. Slimport or equivalent, OTG for flash drives, Bluetooth keyboard and mouse and I'd be set.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
What he means is yes... Its extremely stable and you can use it as a daily ROM be sure to get B7 for mako though...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Nope.

That's why everyone here is talking about other stuff. ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sidnoit22:
Hacking [MENTION=275009]ramjet73[/MENTION] Computer... [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] has some serious funny **** on his computer. I have BB9 guys.. tell me i will upload it.. Its near 900mb
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Don't be sharing my bunny pr0n
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I'm normally one to resist things like that. I originally wouldn't leave the g1 because of the keyboard and waited till the HTC desire z aka g2.

When I was on the n4, I was resistant to go up in screen size and remember when the first 4.3s came out and those were way too big but now they are considered small.

I never thought I would be OK with a 5 inch screen but I got used to it and now am using a 5.5 screen and now using my n4 is way too small.

If the bezels are done right and the overall size is kept down, a 5.9 is not really that big or as terrible as people are acting
[Nexus 4 Android Development] steviemch:
A 5.9" phone just doesn't sound right. It sounds huge.....I have images of holding a phone the size of New Zealand. I'm actually hoping the rumours of an upgraded nexus 5 being released prove true. Can't see it happening though.

Sent by Borg neural subspace transceiver node.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I wouldn't be surprised at a couple different nexus options this year.

Google makes what is popular so they have a developer device for those sizes.

I'm OK with having new Zealand against my head
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I hate waiting...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] steviemch:
I'm sure there's a joke in there somewhere.......

Sent by Borg neural subspace transceiver node.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Micoolef:
Google should just release their own line of pants with larger pockets
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I would wear google pants!!!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Slymobi:
I'm kinda thinking in the lines of ...... Now that crapple have taken a U turn and acknowledged a larger screen is a good way forward ( how long did it take them lol ) then maybe android should reverse this and stick to a let's say somewhat smaller screen market and concentrate on battery life on a device ;). I think N4 is perfect size but would gladly sacrifice its slimness a little to fit a bigger battery etc.

Sorry food just been delivered ;) you get my point !!

*Regards as always*
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
My preference would be a screen size less than 5.5 for the Nexus 6/X.

Attached is a photo of my Nexus 5 phone sitting on top of my Galaxy Note 8.0 tablet. Keeping in mind that the bezel needs to be larger for a tablet, there is still a big difference in the device sizes even without the bezels. That's what I expect when going from a phone to a tablet and I am very happy with my current 4.9 inch phone and 8.0 inch tablet.

I root a lot of phones for other people and have done many Galaxy S3, S4 and S5 phones and a few Note 2 and 3 "phablets". Once I start working with the device the size difference isn't really that noticeable, in terms of readability, but you can do a lot of things like split screen and Spen note taking with the Note series that you can't do with the Galaxy phones. Since I doubt the new Nexus will have real tablet functionality IMO there is no reason to go any larger than 5.5 and I'd be happy with something closer to 5.0.

Given how much I've enjoyed both Nexus phones I'd be willing to go a little larger than the Nexus 5, but not much. According to GSMArena's projected specifications, which have historically been pretty accurate, the Nexus 6 will be 5.2 inches which would be perfect for me.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I wanna carry a phone the size of new Zealand damn it!!!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CamoGeko:
It's just fine as a daily driver. I've been using for weeks.

I want a boat that's also a smartphone.

Sent using N⁴ with Android L
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
That would be awesome!!!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PsychoPhreak:
Only a c-note?! Get an army of them!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] m374llic4:
Thanks, installing it now. : )
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PsychoPhreak:
My word do I hate that stupid term....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Can I borrow some money to start my army???
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Take your pick:

ramjet73

It sure sounds like it. ;)

But the alternative is tablone. :eek:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CamoGeko:
No worries, I predict you're gonna have lots of fun. ;)

Sent using N⁴ with Android L
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PsychoPhreak:
They were called JNCO's, I'm wearing a pair now, and they were the GREATEST JEANS EVER MADE!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
First one

I wanna a tablone!

P.S why go for new Zealand when your planet IS A GIANT SMARTPHONE/BOAT?

SMARTEARTHBOAT!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hazwheel:
Err....no, I'm not.... [emoji12]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PsychoPhreak:
If I had any to spare, presently you'd be the first donation! I'm only JUST on the nexus 4 bandwagon as I could finally afford to upgrade to a 2yo handset... Although I'm super happy I did now. You might be seeing more witty banter from me on here in the future as I come out of my shell :P

Note, that wasn't a bash joke!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Ewwww is that iPhone !!!

Also I want a tablone!!!!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
But it worked perfectly as a bash joke.

You are the one who suggested starting a army, maybe you are keeping the army to yourself....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Isn't this the LG G2 model that would be equivalent to the Nexus 6? And that model doesn't include support for Sprint and Verizon which the Nexus 6 is projected to have.

That's not half the price of what the Nexus 6 is likely to go for or are you thinking about purchasing it with a two year contract?

Edit: And here's the T-Mobile G2 for pre-paid customers. $400 before the extra stuff.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
The second best day in the life of a boat owner is the day he/she buys the boat. The BEST day is the day they sell it.

---------- Post added at 04:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:11 PM ----------

I'm getting a gently used one for a little over $200. It's been in a case and screen protected from day one. T-Mo variant (D801).
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
But they don't have a phone that is a boat though...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Here's my dream boat:

That's a great deal but you can't really compare that price to a a brand new, yet announced, Nexus 6. Well you can, but they are really apples and oranges when it comes to their intended purpose and capabilities.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
Sorry for being off topic, but....:laugh:..:laugh:..:laugh:

Happy weekend.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
It would have been better if I got paid.

Waiting on these investors for this project but they are dragging their feet a bit so now I'm just sitting here like alright already, I wanna get to work so pay me so I can
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
You're correct, one year old plus technology versus current flagship technology. But as was discussed earlier in this thread about AOSP and Nexus devices, I'm an end user.

While I enjoy messing with my phone, I'm finding myself more and more returning to stock. The nagging little bugs in the custom ROMs are starting to annoy me. Maybe it's an age thing, I don't know.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] criminalzen:
hmm ... I am much older than you ... and I find my age makes it easier for me to ignore or forget things... :) but I who knows....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
That's dementia.

So you're collecting Social Security?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hazwheel:
It must be an age thing cos I'm the same
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I'm not in the dementia or Alzheimer's crowd but I'm more into stock these days.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] AfroMetal:
Were there any updates since B7 H'n'P release?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Owning a Nexus is more of statement for me. I'm not willing to accept all the junk that the manufacturers and carriers put on top of what is fundamentally a clean and well performing operating system and I'm not willing to have my phone locked into a single carrier for no reason other than the carrier's business interest.

At least with your used T-Mobile G2 you should be able to get it carrier unlocked pretty easily as long as it's paid off so you can use it on Straight Talk and other prepaid services. T-Mobile is pretty good about that. :good:

Only the optional "Pure White Smoke Signals" version which is based on B7 but includes customization from the Pure White ROM for the Nexus 5.

That version is also linked from the OP.

That bad, huh? :eek:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Where do you guys keep finding pics of me???
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
You know what annoys me?

T-mobile preinstalling lookout security. I don't want that useless garbage on my phone
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Slymobi:
Couldn't agree more. Stock is my preferred daily at the moment and I'm dare I say it !! Finding battery life much better than custom !! Eeeeeeek

I'm trying L out for the 1st time tonight and I'm liking this.

Thanks for the work and effort put into this :)

*Regards as always*
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
It helps them track you. Seriously.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Probably does... those bastards!!!!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Maybe more of my security involved people could explain this more but I'm reading about this shell shock bug and it doesn't seem that it is a huge issue and that it is more trying to sell it that it is a huge vulnerability.

I know we aren't affected by it on android because we use a variant of the netbsd shell and not bash.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] steviemch:
I couldn't agree more.

Sent by Borg neural subspace transceiver node.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] hazwheel:
No security? Or just not lookout?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
No security. The best security is knowing what you are doing.

I don't like those preinstalled security applications that get tossed on a phone or computer since they are always garbage
[Nexus 4 Android Development] justthefacts:
Never had no security crap on my phone.

All you got to do is look at your proc/uid_stat folder and that will tell you which app has been accessing the network
[Nexus 4 Android Development] etiennus01:
Anyone getting location service and google play service crash?

I'm using B7, clean install (full wipe).

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CamoGeko:
The only thing I had on my androids ever was avast, and I ended up forgetting it because I noticed I didint need it at all lol

Sent using N⁴ with Android L
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Sosa88:
Sorry for the noob question.....have i flash a gapps package for this?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
No, google apps are included within. The full package has them all while the slim is limited and allows the user to pick which ones to download.

I tried to remove them all together but we don't have suitable replacements to have a non google app version so the limited is the best we can do
[Nexus 4 Android Development] fr3quency:
Or tabone... Or tampon... Whichever works. [emoji13]

Sent from my Nexus 4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] KrisMurdrum:
But but...I like tablon... It reminds me of Toblerone, my favorite candy bar [emoji14] [emoji106]

Sent from my Nexus⁴ L[licorice]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I automatically thought about a trombone
[Nexus 4 Android Development] KrisMurdrum:
But unlike tablone or Toblerone, trombones are not sweet [emoji57]

Sent from my Nexus⁴ L[licorice]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
that is actually Samsung
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Lg does it too apparently
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Vinnom:
B7 have L signal design?

I'm in B5.9, I had forgot about the thread and get really sad when I saw that bbw wasn't the nickname anymore =/ =/ =/
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
You don't like huff and puff???? How dare you??
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Sosa88:
THX for the quick answer!

Best regards from Germany
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Vinnom:
hahahahhahaha huff and puff have a good sound ^^

I'm talking about the acronym =P

Btw, what is the major difference between special edition and the regular one? I talking about the full version of each.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Stuff....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
You are officially the king of annoying responses... I step down
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Somebody had to be