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[Moto 360] lemonov:
I use mine with the LG G2. My friends have Nexus 5 and Galaxy 4 and they both get pretty good battery life. Like I said in my previous post - I take it off the charger at 6:20 and it's dead/almost dead at 3:30-4pm. Ambient screen off, auto-brightness on.

The guy who sold me the watch said he would usually get the battery life up to a day and a half. But that was on 4.4W1. The watch updated to W2 the same day I received it in the mail, so I couldn't try it and see if it was true.

So I'm hoping it's just a software issue that can be and will be fixed.
[Moto 360] hipsh0t:
So I'm not a crazy heavy app user. I really use the watch because I don't want to damage my phone at work (heights.) sometimes I ask google a thing or two to open on my phone (mostly because I'm lazy.) Auto brightness is one and ambient screen is off. I use face, spotify and wear mini launcher. Since the last update I haven't charged it in at least 36hrs because I haven't been home and I am still above 35%. I feel that every week my battery has improved since I purchased this watch and I'm impressed. However like I said I am not the heaviest user (Spotify more than anything.)

I also have not seem to noticed much of a battery drain on my phone either. I run a VZW One M8 and am a flashaholic with it. My battery..... ROM depending is almost always around 24hrs with fairly active usage and I find myself charging my phone long before I charge my watch. And as for compatibility with a launcher such as Sense. I notice really no difference between when I run a GPE ROM on the phone. Battery life is also extremely similar.
[Moto 360] fastnfurious8:
I think I might have figured it out. I went from 8 hours of moderate to heavy usage to now 15 hours of the same usage with these changes that I tried. I have auto brightness on and ambient mode off.

Things you should do to increase your battery life.

1. Use a stock or very minimalist watchface with black background, preferrably (black pixels utilise lesser battery). Using Facer watchfaces drains a lot more battery than the stock ones, especially those that are more colourful and have more animations.

2. VERY IMPORTANT - Calibrate your battery for optimum battery life. So, any new device needs to have its battery calibrated so that the device can extract most juice from it.

I did this - Reset the watch (Recommended if you've been using the watch for more than 2-3 days now) and continue using it till the battery drops to 0% and the watch switches off on its own. DO NOT PUT IT TO CHARGE AT 1%, LET IT DIE. Once it's off, put it for an uninterrupted charge up to a 100% and use it normally. EDIT - Continue this charging pattern, of letting it die and charging uninterruptedly till a 100% for a "few days only" if possible and you will instantly notice the huge bump in battery life. This is not a placebo, it actually makes a huge difference. While charging, place the watch on air plane mode on, for quickest uninterrupted charging.

3. When watch is absolutely not in use, switch it off or keep it on airplane mode on to save on the battery.
[Moto 360] bruceo:
The worst thing you can do to a lithium ion battery is to fully discharge it that will cause its overall life to diminish greatly. It is ok to do a full discharge for calibration on occasion but every time you do that you risk killing it permanently. Lithium ion overall life is optimized when only partially discharged and then recharged at a slow rate, fast charging will also diminish overall life of lithium ion batteries
[Moto 360] hlhl:
Mine is coming next week, i hope the battery time wil be alright after reading these comments
[Moto 360] MikeLibbey:
Thanks so much i'll definitely try this! Didnt even know it had airplane mode haha thank you.
[Moto 360] jayr04:
This....
[Moto 360] distortedloop:
I believe "calibrating the battery" is urban legend and placebo. Google itself even posted that the wiping battery stats suggestions so popular here are bogus.

Anyways, this watch is so frustrating in terms of battery life. I had that horrible couple of days I'd whined about last week, and thought that removing Lyft and testing the watch had fixed things, but today I'm back up to 7% drain per hour. Yesterday wasn't much better. I haven't installed anything, or even used the watch for anything except to dismiss a few notifications.

It's very hard to believe that others are getting a day and a half out of this POS battery.

New watch, latest software, ambient off, auto brightness. Have done multiple resets over the past couple of weeks. Just plain unreal.

Sent from my XT1095
[Moto 360] 640k:
does green represent on and red off? cause that's a whole lot of screen time.

i'm trying something new today. i noticed that as i sit at my desk, the slightest wrist movements from typing on the keyboard, re-positioning my hand, etc., constantly engages the watch face. i've had the watch off the cradle since 6:30a and also off my wrist and it's only at 73% as of now (1:57p). what i would like is a way to turn off the twist to wake feature. that would guarantee too things for me:

1. longer battery life

2. consistent experience (i would KNOW to tap, vs. trying to just turn my wrist).
[Moto 360] fastnfurious8:
Honestly, it worked for me. Was getting 8-9 hours of battery life on the first two days, I let it die and let it charge back up to 100% on the third and I got 15 hours. I did the same once more and I've gone up to 18 hours today. My usage has remained pretty much the same. You should probably give it a shot, no harm in that. :D
[Moto 360] distortedloop:
Yeah, red is screen on time. Since that long red bar is from midnight to early morning, it would appear to be the desk clock time while on the charger... The battery level doesn't drop any during that period.

I'm down to 27% after 10 hours. Going to have to charge some to make it through the day.

Sent from my XT1095
[Moto 360] Metah4 Genome:
Since the lastest update, my battery out lasts my phone during the day till the evening!
[Moto 360] senectus:
I'm close to pulling the trigger on this, but the battery issue is a big one for me.

I live in Australia where very bight sunlight is a constant issue... is ambient mode going to destroy the battery for me?
[Moto 360] erikiksaz:
Battery life has been crazy good.

After 9 hours I was still at 80%. Whereas post-firmware, but pre-android wear app 10/26 update I'd be at 80% 3-4 hours in.
[Moto 360] fylim:
Do you agree that those reporting improving battery life most likely because they are playing less with the watch than before when it is new and trying all kinds of apps or watch faces etc ?
[Moto 360] wolfc70:
Could be, especially for the first day or two, I've had mine a week, and after the update, there was a huge bump in battery life. In the two days I had mine before the update, I would have to charge it when I got home from work. Now I can go from 5:30 am to 11pm and still have 30-50% left. I usually get 100-150 text and email notifications through out the day. I'm very happy.

Other than some issues with Android Wear and Google Now, I have very little complaints. Android Wear has really brought out how unpredictable Google cards are. I'll get travel time to work at 11am, weather information for the day at 4pm. Anyway, I'm hoping Google keeps improving Android Wear to make a cohesive extension to the phone, not just a remote way to view notifications.
[Moto 360] nechmadi:
is it just me or battery life with watchmaker watchface is pretty bad compared to stock rotate watchface?

i tried this 2 watchfaces which is not so crowded with details with smooth second hand on :

http://facerepo.com/app/faces/detail...ii-1494afe5f73

http://facerepo.com/app/faces/detail...by-149481c6a72

maybe the fact the my watch is pretty new (got it yesterday and did 3rd charge cycle) effect battery life too .
[Moto 360] irononreverse:
Smooth seconds on watchmaker will definitely use more battery, since watchmaker runs those at 50fps by default. You can adjust that in the settings.
[Moto 360] nechmadi:
to which option you offer to adjust? so it look good but won't take so much battery? the options are : 30,20,15,10,5,1

I think 15 is the minimum that looks good .
[Moto 360] bbygfy:
I just noticed that the battery will drain a lot faster if you are active. Today, I was at the golf range and during that hour the watch drained about 8% per hour. However, when I was just sitting at a desk working the watch drained about 3-5% per hour.
[Moto 360] vagabond67:
I am now getting an amazing battery consumption of as low as 2% per hour when just sitting at my desk with minimal notifications and infrequent glancing on the watch to check the time since there's a clock on my laptop anyway.

The only thing I can surmise why consumption can spike to 8% in your case during active activities is that the watch display turns itself on unintentionally due to flicking movements of the wrist that mimic glancing at the watch. I notice this as well when I'm driving. There should be a mode that will allow screen activation only by touching the screen or pushing the button/crown.
[Moto 360] subhani:
Okay guys, I've just forked out £200 for the Moto 360. Absolutely blown away by the design and surreal effect of the non mechanical lit up display plus graphics. I'm based in the UK and they only just released it here and going out of stock everywhere. Unfortunately, I'm here obviously because i'm getting ATROCIOUS battery life! I've never had bad battery life like this that I got a strong feeling this must be a defective unit. I hope i'm right. I just wished t worked. Now i've ordered a replacement from John Lewis, the few trusted retailers here that had the silver one in stock. I had to charge it three times and I only took it out of the box yesterday!

Any thoughts as to what I can do until my replacement arrives? I don't do any fitness related things i'm afraid. No location or music related things neither. I was hoping to start by using this Moto as an incentive but I read here that too many third party apps may be to blame. So i've stripped them out but I still have tons of watch faces. Many that I paid for in a frenzy of excitement LOL. SO I intend to use them. However, seeing you guys' advice above, I'm using only the default and stock 'minimal' face from Moto. What gives guys? If this is the only way to get adequate battery longevity then it kinda defeats the whole point of it being a smartwatch.
[Moto 360] Oskar-2:
Don't give too much on advices - better make your own experiences! This way you'll learn more and faster about your Moto.
[Moto 360] Techno79:
Do you have the latest firmware update? The last one really improved battery life.
[Moto 360] vagabond67:
I'm on my third week with my stainless steel 360. I followed the advice I've read on the threads regarding battery conditioning by running it down till it turns off by itself and then charging all the way to 100%, about three times. After that, got around 4% battery consumption per hour. Subsequent firmware updates got me up to 3% drain per hour on moderate use and notifications. Didn't put new faces from Google play until I observed performance with all stock configuration - just the stock watch faces and no apps on the watch.

I tried out third party faces on Google play just a few days ago, and was stunned to see some faces consuming up to 10% battery power every hour. So I'm now back to the stock faces and still no apps and am back to around 3% battery drain per hour on moderate use and notifications. Kinda sucks since there are really stunning watch face designs out there.
[Moto 360] nechmadi:
which watchfaces took 10% for hour?
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Gotcha, battery life has been one of the biggest concerns. But as of right now, it seems like the original reporters just blew it out of proportion. I decided to read the article on Cnet, and the writer says

So I guess that means it's not as bad once you get used to it.
[Moto 360] DaRacerz:
Here are my battery life observations so far:

Got off the charge and went biking. In about 3 hours time, I went from 100% to 25% charge!!!!!!!! Granted I had Strava running and also connected to the watch so I'm not sure what, but something was active with the watch.

Since then, in the last couple of hours, I went from 25 to 20%. That seems much more reasonable and can see this drain last the day.

I'm going to let the battery drain to zero and fully charge over night and see what a "normal" (subjective I know) days use gets us. With the current figures, I may consider getting an exchange to see if another unit is any better with battery life or the same.
[Moto 360] PsychDrummer:
Ouch. Maybe it's a bug that has to do with biking? I remember reading that it can tell if you're walking/running/biking/driving. Weird.
[Moto 360] Character Zero:
Maybe Strava was constantly pushing notifications?
[Moto 360] EVOme:
If that's what you're thinking, you may have to return it and wait. I don't see you being able to walk into a Best Buy within the next 30 days and buy one.
[Moto 360] Dusty Rhodes:
Members of the Verge staff have been seen for at least the last two months sporting the 360. Josh Topolsky, before he left the Verge, was casually sporting one on Fallon in early June. He didn't even mention it, someone noticed it and people had to nerd enhance the video to get proof. I ordered it, I'm going to deal with the battery, and I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if their usage numbers are right. Also note, the WSJ reporter is Topolsky's wife.

That being said I'm willing to bet that they get 2-3 times the amount of notifications I do. I couldn't care less about a constant stream of twitter or facebook. Just give me some Google Now, weather, text, email, call notifications and I'm pretty much set. It sucks that you can't turn of the pedometer and other whatnot.
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
I could see Motorola potentially allowing us to disable it in the future with a software update. But I do agree, it sucks that for the time being, we are stuck with it always being on.
[Moto 360] EVOme:
The only thing I can see that's missing is the ability to answer/make calls like the Gear. With my Gear I leave phone in house and walk all around my yard and still can answer calls until I can get back to my phone. With this, I see a call and need to run to my phone to answer.
[Moto 360] Character Zero:
There is a setting to have it stop counting steps. Or at least showing it.
[Moto 360] PsychDrummer:
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The thing is, if it's similar to the Nexus 5, that shouldn't make a difference in battery. The Nexus 5 has the hardware low power chip for step-counting and it doesn't affect the battery at all.
[Moto 360] RunNgun42:
Yes, I disabled this on my G watch, although it still shows "0 steps" at 12:00am every day when the watch apparently decides to show this again. All I did was access the apps menu and click "fit/[swipe left]/show steps card" to turn it off.

I know the G watch has a larger battery but it's been undocked for 14 hours now and I'm at 63% battery, and I have twitter/exchange/gmail push notifications enabled, and I get a lot of messages. Plus I frequently text via google voice now and set various reminders throughout the day. Pretty heavy usage in my opinion.
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Dumb question, but do you need a separate app to get Exchange Active Sync notifications on Android Wear?
[Moto 360] Character Zero:
I wonder if battery life has been a problem and they decided to just ship it because of all the hype and the promise of summer release? Seems like they had the design in the bag for a long time. I just wonder if its like " This is a biggest battery we can have at these dimensions and this is the best battery life we can get. Ship it". But I don't really mind as long as it gets me through a normal day.
[Moto 360] cheeto:
MKBHD is positive on moto 360's battery so far

MKBHD does great youtube reviews. He didn't put out his review yet but he said so far the battery is good

"Oh, and the #1 question I'm seeing is about battery life. So far... It's been pretty decent. Miles better than the LG G Watch, which is always on. I went most of a day yesterday and ended with 41%. More full-day testing will follow, for a proper full review :]﻿"

https://plus.google.com/+MarquesBrownlee/posts/T3ySTAjpyLe
[Moto 360] menendez1293:
Nice find, seems like a very good think to hear. Marques does great videos and I tend to believe he's honest with what he says, so it's nice to see something about battery life from a actual tech reviewer.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[Moto 360] play2lose:
I'm also thinking it will last at least a full day for 90% of the consumers out there. Reviewers are putting this thing to the test for the purpose of reviewing it and not using it as a normal consumer would. There's also the "new phone" thing where the first few days you fiddle with it more and get much worse battery life before you just let it settle lol.

The only thing I'm disappointed about is the screen. A 200 PPI LCD? :crying: It's gonna be like going back to looking at an iPhone 3G screen, especially after being spoiled with 1080p 400ppi+ phones lol. I was really hoping for 300 PPI + AMOLED, and AMOLED would have helped a lot with the battery life too I'm sure.
[Moto 360] RunNgun42:
See this is what I'm talking about, how the hell does The Verge go from saying you barely get 8 hours of use while this guy has 41% remaining after 12? It's this kind of extreme discrepancy that leads me to believe The Verge should be sued for libel lol. They know how to properly review a product and how to give it a fair analysis, and the only way they could burn the battery up this quickly is by trying on purpose. Kind of like the first Tesla reviews where they went out of their way to kill the car and failing to charge it fully, driving it around in circles before hitting a road trip etc. There was an obvious bias there meant to discredit the technology. The Verge has done some potentially irreparable damage to Moto's brand here with this ridiculous 8-12 hour claim. Every single Google search on this subject all invariable leads back to that one single review they are all sourcing.

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No. In fact you dont need any apps installed to the watch. This is the first mistake people make assuming that to get notifications on the watch they need some accompanying app to go with it. For the most part all the watch does is display whatever is in your phones notification bar. So your phone is basically pushing all notifications to your watch. If you have exchange on your phone, you automatically have it on your watch by virtue of the notification mirroring. Same with any other app. Netflix, Plex, Calendar reminders (from any app), SMS, Google now cards, etc. Of course there are some apps you can install to the watch directly that require no communication with the phone such as calculators and stuff, and some which are more interactive than a simple notification such as Google Keep.
[Moto 360] cheeto:
Phil Nickinson (Android Central)

Shared publicly - Yesterday 5:29 PM

And by the way, I've gone 9 hours so far today and am just now hitting 50 percent. I've heard rumblings about twice-daily charging or something — don't even know the source; I haven't bothered looking — and I'm not yet seeing anything nearly that alarming.﻿

https://plus.google.com/+PhilNickinson/posts/4ded2qpfYDn
[Moto 360] RunNgun42:
Do you have the screen set to always on mode (with dimming)? Or does it turn completely off when you arent looking at it?
[Moto 360] Character Zero:
So here is my battery results so far :

6PM - 100%

Went out to eat. Played around with it for a bit.

8PM - 83%

Took it off and put it down for the night. Overnight I got emails to my phone so I assume they were hitting the watch and at least turning the screen on briefly. Btu since not on my arm, movement was not causing the screen to turn on. They need a setting to have the screen come on for notifications and side button only (no motion). That could save some battery for sure.

7:40AM - 67%

Yeah so idle, it was on but not on my wrist and not being played with (in a drawer really). It lost about 16% in roughly 12 hours. Of course who knows if the battery is deleting completely linearly and maybe it slowed down a bit. I had about 15 or so emails during the night.

Playing around with the phone is going to kill battery. If you just look and swipe its probably batter than looking, reading the email, replying to the email. Giving voice commands for the fun of it. I can see how a review could run it down because you are trying to see the response time, options for replies, etc.
[Moto 360] Bob Smith42:
Some people naively say the Moto 360 battery life is just fine, excuse, excuse, excuse....

They are wrong.

I used to think the same. Then I updated to the latest firmware, uploaded a play list of music to Google Play Music, and downloaded the 20 tracks to my Moto 360. I paired the Moto 360 with my BT headset and started listening. No need for smart phone nor tablet when used in this method. Yikes. Talk about a battery killer.

The reason people are wrong by overestimating the existing battery capability on current Moto 360 architecture is the device itself is getting new use cases, and many, many new use cases. The battery is barely keeping up with one day usage on the original use cases.

Battery life of the Moto 360 is barely adequate to weak or unacceptable. But if you do not mind recycling the device in six months go ahead and buy a Moto 360 v1.
[Moto 360] Metah4 Genome:
I work a 930 am to 530 pm shift...I take my watch off the charger before I leave at 9am...my battery lasts until I get home a bit after 6pm.... Possibly 20% or so left?

My day consists of getting alerts, reading a couple emails, sending multiple texts...that's about it.

I for one don't have a problem with this. When I get home, the watch might stay on my for another hour or so and then I put it on the charger for the night.

In all reality, I don't care that the battery lasts for the time it does since it lasts all day until I get home.

I have a Galaxy S5, and I find that by 3pm, I need to put my PHONE on the charger...due to bluetooth, syncing, alerts, WiFi or 4G etc....so my watch actually outlasts my phone..lol

I will post a picture of the monitor sometime this week when I go back to work..
[Moto 360] kevinlevrone:
I think your watch is fine and you stop freaking out :) Its quite normal to get poor battery life the first days since you buy the watch, since you are playing with it constantly. Play with it and enjoy it and assess the problem again towards the end of your return period. Make sure you have the latest updates installed.
[Moto 360] dersie:
Some Watchface have bug, example actually the F03 from Smatwatch Bureaux have bug and drain 10% batt by hour.

Updated this morning and after it drain 4% by hour and new update in the evening and drain anew 10% by hour.....

Even if you do not use this watchface but keep installed, Wear launch many many face in memory even if you do not use :( :( :(

So face with bug drain batt even if not used because there are launched in memory by Wear system.
[Moto 360] ern88:
What about Facer faces. How does this effect battery drain?
[Moto 360] leyvatron:
Getting good battery.
[Moto 360] subhani:
What is showing you the exact face that is drinking the battery?

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Thanks for the encouragement. I think you may be right. I saw MASSIVE battery drain but I stopped using it like a smartphone and there is a major improvement. This may not be good enough but better.

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I'm on 4.4w2. That's the latest according to my device...
[Moto 360] leyvatron:
One thing I do notice is, if you click on apps and more apps, they stay running in the background which leads to battery drain. I rebooted last night, didn't open any apps, and I am getting good battery life.

How do we force close apps that are running on the watch?
[Moto 360] ern88:
How did you kill the apps?
[Moto 360] leyvatron:
Reboot.