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[Nexus 4 Android Development] fczeuner:
Alpha builds are newer and less stable. Any facebook beta builds your using were probably coded before Android L even existed but as always I could be wrong
[Nexus 4 Android Development] FairOh:
I just tried the proposed MMS WiFi fix and it did not work for me. The message just sat there saying it was sending.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] migueldbr:
is there any way to make the 2g setting stick and not change back to 3g?beta3p5
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
It was fixed in beta 4

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Curiosity question.

What is 4.4.4r2?

Or kit Kat mr2.2?

Because there is a new branch and tag in aosp when I jus synced...

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] simms22:
its a new release. but it only contains some fixes for a few pacific carriers and their networks.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Oh, I was hoping it was something exciting :(

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Psichi:
4.4.4r2 looks to be a small radio update for the N5 in select countries - http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...o-4-4-4_r2-in-nz-aus-india-glass-gets-xe19-1/

It shouldn't have any changes to the actual core of Android

minute too late. :sad:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
You are right though, they were tiny tiny changes though

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ddup1:
Does the black screen bug when usb plug fixed with b4 ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] migueldbr:
oh i see...i was avoiding to flash beta 4 because of the new kernel and mac adress bug. i guess i will wait. thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] simms22:
regardless, i did flash the new radio onto my n5. no difference here, between the last and newest radio. but like i said, it was for those pacific carriers :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
This is why I am wondering if it is an app or combination of them that's interfering with the driver, or perhaps a unique set of circumstances that causes the driver to malfunction.

A bit like the occasional issue I have with my N7 where on handover from one AP to another in my house, the WiFi on the tablet will see nothing (not even my neighbours' APs) for a few minutes until the system somehow resets itself. Even rebooting doesn't clear it, I just have to wait it out.

I've worked out that it only happens when I get bored of waiting for the handover, and manually instigate it just as it is doing it itself. I reckon this particular set of circumstances crashes the hardware...so something similar could be causing your screen to fail.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Interesting... it's not a specific app, as it happens on stock, but it could be some combo... I always notice it when trying to slide out the hamburger menu in apps since you usually do it from the left.

What I'm wondering if it has always plague LG's displays and no one noticed it. I only notice it since I have show touches enabled in developer settings. I mean come on, how many people are going to have the touches setting on, have a Nexus, and use their phones frequently enough to notice the very left side of their touchscreen is acting sporadically.

Oh and also, apparently, the Galaxy S6 Edge used to have that issue in their preproduction units on the edge display part. Exact same issue, there was a video showing it too. But... since no one seems to have complained when it actually came out I'm guessing Samsung fixed it. Hardware or software fix is anyone's guess...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ribicic:
https://wn.nr/rmDDgS

They giveaway OnePlus 3 :)

via tt
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Paulroberts:
brand names are trouble, O wont be Oreo, my monies on Oyster.

[IMG="Oyster delight"]http://www.tonethecones.com/images/108-20%25-yellow..gif[/IMG]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Yeah, now that I think about it, Android Oreo won't roll off the tongue as easily... booo
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dragos281993:
Android O = Android Onion.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Char_G:
Makoplz :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
#SubstratumPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
#globalstable plz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
No. #MakoPlz. Are we gonna carry this war over from G+ over to XDA?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
IDoes it mean my n4 is going into its final stage of life when battery drops 30% over night? I've been using the same apps and this only started since around 3 weeks ago. Was on Krexus May build and now on Fake Nexus July build, with battery page showing that the phone only woke a few times.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dragos281993:
Replace the battery and your good.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Contemplating between this or hang on and save money for the next Nexus... :confused:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dragos281993:
That sounds like a good idea.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
Obviously! ? No no, I'm just kidding, as I always do. (Maybe [emoji13])
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nicholaschum:
[MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION]

how about BBF for substratum

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
#GoogleyPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Man love this thread!

#deleteSystem32Plz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Download all the ramz!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
#BananaPlz ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Did you try turning it off and on again first?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
I'm considering buying a Chinese knockoff Android watch... I was just browsing eBay when I turned to a dark corner of the cheap Chinese knockoffs (I would never buy stuff there of course, I know a fake when I see one) and was laughing my ass of at the bad spelling and grammar, when I saw this: http://www.ebay.com/itm/112045028142

Bad spelling aside, it sounds way too good for $30... if it can do half the things it says it can decently, its would actually be a good deal. Im just really curious now... eBay can do that to you (it's a conspiracy)... Do you think I should buy it or go back to laughing at grammar?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Char_G:
#Makoplz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
I KNEW WE WERE GONNA BRING THIS FROMG+ OVER TO XDA

#TheWarContinues

#makoPlz

#hammerheadPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
You're forgetting something.................

?

?

?

#grouperPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
If you make it

??????
[Nexus 4 Android Development] deshmukhrb2000:
Hi

I was on chroma_mako-2016-06-09 build, suddenly, phone reboot and while rebooting i.e. in bootanimation, it goes back to Google logo.

After trying to put it on, the result was same, while booting it goes off.

Since then i am not able to boot my phone.

Battery is around 80 to 90 %. also if i keep phone in recovery, it stay there forever.

After that, i using nexus toolkit, i reset it to the 5.1.1 Mako image from google. now everything is clean.

even after factory reset it is in bootloop. does not boot completely.

One observation.

If i plug it for power, it boots completely no issue. But when i get incoming call, suddenly it goes off and again i have plug it to power to switch on or boot completely.

Battery is still 80%.

Please anybody have this kind of issue and know how to fix. i do not want to die my N4 like this.

Looking for the help.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Sounds to me like you've diagnosed the problem correctly, your battery is on its last legs...hang on do you mean that once in recovery it doesn't shut itself down? If so, what happens if you power off from recovery, and charge to full when it's off? Ie dont attempt to boot untill you're sure the battery is 100%..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] deshmukhrb2000:
Yes, u are right, when i am in recovery it does not go off.

If i power off from recovery and charge the phone, it get charge to 100%. after that if i boot my phone, it does not get start, it will bootloop, but if i try to boot it while plugged on to power it will boot completely. Then it will stay there for some time till i get incoming call or do some browsing and after some time it goes off again.

So to put is back on i have to plug it to power, in this case it shows me battery percentage around 80 to 90 % no drain.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Well the only other thing I can think of is to leave it in recovery untill it runs out of power, charge it back to full and then try to boot it, but it does sound like the battery can't sustain anything that requires a lot of power such as transmitting to a cell tower for a call, or the heavy processor load at boot..

I should add that completely draining the battery might kill it entirely....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] deshmukhrb2000:
Thanks [MENTION=2583740]adstraylight[/MENTION] for your support and suggestion,

After struggling a lot, i made up my mind to change the battery.

Now i have changed my N4 battery, everything is on the track. working great now.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
I found my grouper buried in a drawer and surprisingly, it still works great! So yeah!

#grouperPlz

Should I update it or just leave it? It's still on Pure Nexus from March[emoji14]and who knows what else... I don't remember what I did to it honestly...

Edit: Where TF is the ParrotMod thread it's time to update!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
#Shamuplz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
#FrankenallthethingsPlz

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#P900plz

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#P900plz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
#HTCDreamPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Maxr1998:
#Nokia3310Plz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
#Phoneboxplz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
#HomingPigeonPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dragos281993:
#GameOfThronesPlz . Now !!!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
#globalstableplz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
# [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] plz

???

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#bieber4presidentplz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
#makemakogreatagain
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
#YouForgotToSayPlz...Plz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Char_G:
#cookiesplz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
#LolPlz

#ThisIsJustSpamNowPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
#YesPlz

#GivePlzAChancePlz

#GivePizzaChancePlz

#MakeLunchNotWarPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
#You'reMakingMeHungryPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
All right guys, back to seriousness. (Gasp! I know.) After all of that time, I want to fix my Nexus 4's screen now, even if its sitting in the drawer shattered for months...

Anyways, screen still lights up and works perfect = Good LCD, and just broken glass and touchscreen. From what I understand, that means that I only need a new digitizer+glass for it.

Unfortunately, from the looks of it, I'll have to buy something off of eBay with the LCD + digitizer + glass as well, as it seems far harder to repair just the glass and digitizer. Am I correct? Would I need something like this for example: http://www.ebay.com/itm/141660332949

Or am I looking at the wrong thing? Please I want my #makoPlz working again...

Fraaaaaaaaank!!! Where are you?!?!?!?!?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
Yep, you should replace the whole assembly. Pay attention when you detach the battery from it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Okay thanks! I'm kinda surprised they still even sell that considering how old the tablet is.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Starting my adventure to create my first marshmallow kernel for mako....
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
Patiently waiting ?

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Warm battery up with a hairdryer because it's strongly attached to the metal framework and its metal cover rips easily.

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
How do I acknowledge Google if I adopted some changes from commits? Do I just say "credits to Google" along with the link to the commit I referenced to in my commit message?

Edit: Found a way!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Compiled successfully but won't even boot at all :( And I've no idea how to debug with the phone stuck at the exclamation mark android sign... I failed at compiling a stock kernel with linaro lol, maybe I should take a short break before trying to fix it
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Soooo? How did it go??
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Oh, I actually forgot about that... I don't think I'm gonna fix it after all :p

The more I think about it the more it seems to be a waste of $$$. Especially since I have 5 now.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
https://www.android.com/versions/nougat-7-0/

Guys, it's time!

#MakoPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Paulroberts:
Did they release the source code?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nitin.chobhe:
Not yet

Nitin
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kryzeK:
Is being uploaded!!! https://android.googlesource.com/platform/art/+/nougat-release
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
It HAS BEGUN

Wait, why am I here, and why do I still care? i don't even have a working N4 anymore...

Oh well, #makoPlz
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Hey guys, I tried compiling a kernel this time from a different source with Linaro. It is based on fake_nexus_wip by ganachoco and is a stock kernel. Compiled without error, but when I try to flash the zimage with anykernel2, it says "Could not find 'META-INF/com/google/android/update-binary' in the zip file". I grabbed the anykernel2 master zip and deleted the ramdisk mods, the module folder and the patch folder, then edited the anykernel.sh so that it won't make any ramdisk changes by deleting the stuff between dump_boot and write_boot, as well as making sure the boot location is correct. Can anyone help pls? Thx
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
Mako flies on Marshmallow! #makoplz ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Android is so mature now a days, that a lot of the changes in Nougat seem to be extremely minor, and the other changes just seem to be made for change's sake, since they don't have much to do with it.

If you gave me the choice between Nougat and KitKat I might pick KitKat.

I used to get excited about new Android Updates but I feel like I'm sick of Android fragmentation. Now? Meh...

What about Android Wear? Hmm? That bugs me so much. Google is nearly single handedly creating fragmentation in that ecosystem. LG G watch, Moto 360, and even the Gear Live (maybe) aren't getting Android 2.0.

The Moto 360, I get it, crappy proccesor, that's Moto's fault, but the G Watch and Gear Live both have identical hardware to nearly all other Wear watches and should get the update. The gear Live deserves the update the most, it has the hardware button and the tech specs, but support = $$, so Google decides to be lazy. The G Watch may not have a button, but it isn't necessary, and ANY special gesture could have replaced the button, but again, nope! All three watches are barely 2 years old and are already obsolete...

Just wait until some kinda new watch processor from Qualcomm comes out. Google would obsolete another half dozen watches.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
So would you propose a closed source solution a la MSFT, with N being the last version of android, followed by minor security and feature updates? Or Google to release a solely back end system, leaving the ui to manufacturers and the community? They can't go the apple route as they have little control over the hardware.

My vote fwiw would be for the latter, as this would release the community's creativity in terms of interface, with no need to keep to a proscribed design philosophy. We'd then see things evolve democratically rather than being decided on the basis of focus groups and committee meetings. Manufacturers would also be able to offer truly competing products with properly unique selling points.

I agree that the hype over a new version isn't the marketing tool it once was, and am feeling slightly ambivalent about this latest release. I'll update for sure, but with a sense of mild curiosity, rather than outright excitement. Perhaps it's not just the system that's getting 'mature'...?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Oh yeah? Remember the excitement around Froyo? 'nough said
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Quite, I think some of us have been around this block a few times already....?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
That's the problem, a user only sees minor changes on the surface so to them it seems like a minor update but in reality, the back end and system got major overhauls that are very dramatic on some things more then others.

There is still so much more that could be done performance and efficiency wise that a end user would not even realize the differences and think it is minor but it actually huge changes.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Okay, that's true, but as a *user*, I still would not notice a difference performance and battery wise from KitKat to Marshmallow on my phone, no matter how much "optimization" Google and the devs have done. Maybe about 2-4 hrs of extra Standby time due to doze... It just seems like we're getting minimal gains at best every 3 years.

Oh and, don't bring unintentional bugs into this, Lollipop's memory leak doesn't count.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dragos281993:
Still, zaclimon managed to do a great job so far. He just mentioned in his thread that the sensors have been fixed.

Anyways, would it be possible for you to take a quick look to the device tree ? Only if you have time to spare, of course. It would be a great thing to have someone like you take look at it. You brought M to the Nexus 4 after all, so your experience speaks for itself.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
I have to disagree though, as the easy stuff gets fixed, it becomes way harder to squeeze improvement out. Also, the minor changes to the user interface have a way bigger impact on our usage. Just a simple change of app opening/closing animation already dramatically improves the user experience as it feels more premium, as does the increased longevity of the phone being quite a bit more convenient since it can mean the difference between the phone turning off and preventing you from using it at all. And having the phone turn off on you before getting home is quite irritating.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dragos281993:
True. Even the look of the new notification panel or the recents menu changes the experience dramatically.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Unfortunately I barely have any free time for substratum with me working a new job so I really don't even have time to look at n4, I've barely even looked at N yet and going by what I have heard from other devs on the changes
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Well you guys talk about optimisation, but having seen the difference that could have been made to the grouper but wasn't by Asus/Google, and was only brought about by an 18yr old coder working without any corporate resources (I'm talking about ParrotMod if you hadn't already guessed), not to mention what Syko did with Frank, I'm pretty skeptical about the argument for hidden improvement.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Its not hidden improvement, it is system changes including APIs with things you don't even see on a daily basis.

The optimization we did was fine tuning certain aspects but we weren't interacting with huge systems and upstream projects for all these different functions or creating APIs or security aspects of everything.

Android is a massive project and just as something as starting a app is a collaboration of so many different aspects it would boggle most people's minds the amount of changes there is on each android release which is thousands of changes (mostly these changes are in the same places I have to work and most ROM devs don't which sucks when I need help)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Yes I get that, but I do feel it has to be about balance, and making the UX as good as possible, which is why people such as yourself and parrotgeek keep this stuff interesting. If it were left to the corporate entities, I think it would have lost my interest long ago.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Corporations have no vision, they have shareholders who make them do things like play it safe and reliable and hop on gimmicks.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
This is why I was speculating whether it would be better for Google to simply do the back end stuff, and leave the UX to independent designers. Maximise the creative 'gene pool' in the 'ecosystem' (I feel dirty using terms like that), whilst promoting 'diversity' with possibly less 'fragmentation'.

(Right, time for a shower....)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Still annoying that even though Google fixed the easy stuff, they decided to waste time nitpicking small changes, instead of share it with older devices that are totally capable of it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
This may change, as I read somewhere that people are showing signs of hanging on to their devices for longer and not slavishly updating with the corporate cycle. Much the same happened in the PC market once the technology hit a level where it simply worked for most people's needs.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] underskyzx:
Whatever you guys say, Nexus 4 for life!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
You mean like, since the XP days? (-_6)

Edit: I still wish I had Nougat for N5 natively. It would have been the perfect goodbye. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Pretty much, unless you were into gaming, but I think 7 was when it truly plateaued in terms of a lot of people's expectation of what a PC was capable of. It's like with storage, once drives hit 1TB, unless you were into serious video or some other creative use, it just ceased to be a consideration.

Yes, I'm surprised they dropped the 5, but maybe to take full advantage of N requires some distinct difference in hardware that Google think is fundamentally important from their POV.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
From what I heard, it is because they don't have vulkan compatible drivers for the nexus 5
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Well there's incoming ports for the 4 and maybe even grouper, so a lack of drivers really shouldn't hold anything back here ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
A port/rom doesn't have to pass CTS or hardware compatibility tests.

Every release, google puts out a "device must support this for this release" (can't remember what it is called) so the app environment is consistent in each release, if a device can't pass those requirements then they can't get a official update (enforced with google app licensing) so if google let a requirement slide for their own device then the rest of the requirements are meaningless.

This also gives some insight why some devices stop getting support (vulkan would be proprietary drivers so it would most likely need to be updated by the maker).