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[Nexus 4 Android Development] Targaeryan:
A surface pro 3 actually.. It's a laptop replacement (i5, integrated graphic card).. And man its very useful/convenient/portable compared to my 4 year old inspiron.. The stylus is useful for taking notes for uni, and other stuff..

Tablet wise I have the nexus 10, actually the n7 (2012) for now since my mum has taken a liking to the n10..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Got windows 10 yet? You can upgrade now you know, (don't need to wait for the taskbar icon to tell you its ready).

Its strange, its not very well documented that you can upgrade today using their installer on their website.

Oh and UPGRADE! Not clean don't tell me iso and stuff.

BTW, Cortana joke of the day:

What's brown and sticky? A STICK! GET IT? A STICK?

I'll be quiet now...

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How has that not expired yet?

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How has that not expired yet?

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] Targaeryan:
XDXD

Done and done.. It actually finished downloading in the background (I think surface users got first priority) but it didn't notify me.. When I went to.the windows update, it had install win 10 option so I did.. I'm installing through the web tool (upgrade) on my dads laptop now..

I was a bit used to the charms on 8.1. Now gotta get used to the new gestures.. Edge is pretty, but I'm a chrome canary user forever!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ame316:
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[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
WTF?

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] schetz:
Windows 10 auto-correct [emoji3] [emoji3]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
And in swooped the 404 Defender...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Vinnom:
A brazilian tech site posted about one more vulnerability in Android, now found by Trend Micro security specialists. This affect mediaserver, they say and apparently, can soft brick your phone.

But this isn't like the stagefright one, this affects only mkv corrupted files.

Bugs happens, why now ppl are so serious about the ones in android? And why only Android?

MOTO X user since 03/2015 =)

NEXUS 4 user 2013-2015 =/

Current ROM: BrokenOS

Kernel: Stock

Profiles for Unleashed Synapse: DRIVE or MEGA
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Because logics

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Does anyone here have at&t unlimited data plans? I have the ability to obtain an unlimited data plan, but I've been reading up and heard that they throttle after 5 GB or something. (similar to the simple mobile non unlimited plans for T-Mobile). Since at&t got hit with that 100 million dollar fine from the FTC has the at&t unlimited data plans become truly unlimited?

Oh and really tempted to fix my nexus 4 and get an lg g4 on top of it .
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Well, depends on this I guess: http://www.slashgear.com/att-says-throttling-your-data-is-harmless-29394785/

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] TheNerd:]:
Wow that's bs AT&T. Unlimited is Unlimited
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
How much data were you going to use?

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Okay this is ridiculous...

If Microsoft can upgrade 1 Billion devices each configured slightly differently, ranging from 8 year old computers to brand new PC's. Than Samsung, LG, Google, etc. Should ALL be able to update their devices for more than 2 years. I mean, I know Android is different bla bla bla but seriously? I have a 7 year old Dell desktop that ran the Windows 10 TP easily with full driver and hardware support.

In fact, if you refer to my previous picture, that Red laptop, both the black and red desktops, and the black laptop sitting on top of the black desktop all upgraded perfectly fine. Not to mention the 7 year Dell (that's the one in the cabinet that you can't see) have perfectly functioned.

I haven't upgraded my Silver laptop yet since I didn't get around to it.

In summary

Windows > Android at updates

Red laptop = came with win7 dual boot with 10 TP

Black laptop = came with win7 upgrade to 10

Silver laptop = came with 8/8.1 going to upgrade to 10

Black desktop = running Win10 TP (Or InsiderP but IP is just confusing)

Red Desktop = running Win10 TP

Black 7year old Dell = Came with Win Vista dual boot 10 TP

Chromecast = Chromecast OS???

Roku = Roku OS???

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] Targaeryan:
Microsoft is doing p2p updates if you didn't know ;) its inside system updates, advanced, how you get updates option.. There's are two choices there, send updates to computers on LAN or to LAN and to PCs on the internet (enabled by default).

That said, maybe google will revise the update policy at some point where the HW are already at a really high point (maybe only 64bit cpu devices being sold) etc etc.. Who knows... I guess phones are diff compared to laptops/PCs nowadays where people upgrade those every year/every other year compared to laptops/PCs which seem to have a longer product cycle..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Yes I know, but that's Windows 10 only, how can they upgrade W7/W8(.1) devices while non of the Android OEM's can't? It's just plain laziness, not wanting to spend extra on development...

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Different business model, Microsoft are trying to sell services and windows compatible software, Android OEMs aren't, they trying to sell Android compatible hardware and the faster they can supersede last year's model,the better. They just sell more phones that way. I think the reason they do software updates at all is because the market (us) are only willing to buy a new phone once every couple of years, and they try to do the minimum they have to in order to increase brand loyalty.

So the way to start to break this cycle is not to jump at the newest shiniest thing on offer, and begin to question whether you actually need it.

Sadly though, the upshot of a longer consumption cycle would be more expensive devices, as the OEMs would have to increase their profit margins to keep their shareholders happy. The benefit to the customer, however, would be that an upgrade would really feel like a significant step up, rather than an incremental one that we try and kid ourselves is worth it.

My grouper is a case in point, with the assistance of fantastic devs, it still does everything I want it to at over 3 years old. I know that when it finally dies, and I buy something new, it will feel brilliant, amazing and on a truly different level.

Just my opinion, YMMV ;)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shakatu:
I updated my desktop to Windows 10 last night and it took 4-5 post-install manual reboots for everything to work properly. But it does now! My laptop from 2008 is still running Windows 7 and I'm afraid to update it because Windows 8 didn't fare too well... Oh well, I never use the laptop anymore. But it makes you wonder how well devices that old that CAN run Windows 10 WILL run Windows 10.

Maybe I'll just install Linux on it again. My desktop surprisingly doesn't like Linux.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tnp9008:
Yup... I think Google should change how Android is setup so they can push out new system versions and security update w/out waiting for phone manufacturers and carriers. If they could separate out the core system enough they should be able to update all phones w/out breaking manufacturers skins. Maybe they could build in an option for switching any Android device to the stock skin while they're at it. Then I could have the hardware I want with the experience I want.

But I'm probably just dreaming.... [emoji20]
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Yes, you are dreaming but so are we...

Strange, I guess Microsoft just gives Dell products better treatment. 3 Dells Upgraded and 2 custom built upgraded with no problem...

My old Dell is from 2008 also so it is pretty interesting to see the differences. Can you tell me the specs?

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Your grouper is still getting support past the 2 year service mark because we don't have to pass the cts.

The cts is in place for new hardware though and not the software updates so devices have to meet the specs of that version of android so devices don't ship with a newer version then what they can technically support.

Google has been in the process of doing this for a while now by decoupling the apps away from aosp source and just using what is in there for a base so oems to do it too.

Instead of seeing that is what Google is doing for the benefit and leading the way, people say that Google is locking android up which is beyond retarded since they don't see the point.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
So on that basis, an OEM could produce a new model and discontinue the previous one every 2 years, but continue supporting the old one for longer?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Targaeryan:
Nice breakdown of the business model view. That's exactly so.. Adding to your explanation: Also, carriers and contracts come into play very much as well.. Once a year, once every two years and other options where the phones are sold at a lower than retail price.. This doesn't happen in the laptop world..

Though that may be changing since Chromebooks/tablet hybrids are coming with sim slots so carriers are jumping on those as well (minor few).

And a lot of places exchange offers for phones are very popular as well.

If I'm not mistaken the reason MS is doing it is to get everyone on a uniform base since their previous version was *really terribleeee* and I feel they might be looking to push that new windows store (wasn't available on 7, store on 8 was baaaddd).. And of course as you mentioned looking to enhance their service part.. I guess they'd need to focus on 10 hoping that majority have moved to it (users+enterprise) so they can focus their efforts on enhancing the services provided for that platform and maybe just maintenance or security updates for people still on the older version..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Yep, and as far as Windows 10 goes, I wouldn't be surprised at all to see different versions of the 'Explorer' app (because that's essentially what the user interface is) for sale through the Windows Store. One thing I do find intriguing though is that the free Solitaire game is now ad supported, dipping their toes into Google's pond perhaps?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
So... Upgrade to 10 for FREE ads*!!

*Yes! Free! We aren't kidding, all of your ad free games will be ad supported in the future! How neat is that?

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Hehe, brings to mind a Bill Hicks quote about consumerism and marketing: "You are free...to do what we tell you..."

Edit: or maybe these days it should be revised to: "You are free...to buy what we sell you..."
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
pm me or hangout me to get your Linux rolling

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also moved to 10 last week to save my arse from a random bsod on 8.1, I did the upgrade over update (like Ubuntu does) , it clean installed and moved there compatible apps, then got me the correct drivers, I simply run disk cleanup as root to remove windows old, grubbed the drivers and released 2 days ago for the CPU and surprise, now Microsoft used proper amd modules, before they used Intel based ones making the CPU look weaker, also my system freezes are gone, windows had problem managing the fans on 8.1, now they are loud but they keep the CPU at 40 on full load, oh and they copied one of my fav features from Ubuntu and took it one step beyond windows 10 auto color calibration: https://youtu.be/rgjUGe497ek

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Will post the name of the muzei like app later
[Nexus 4 Android Development] str3tch72:
Windows 10 runs so bad on my laptop. I have backup of 8.1 on my hard drive (I'm lucky lol). Always menu start and Cortana have FC on every boot. Win 10 have nic look, but for me, 8.1 is better. My device is Lenovo y510p (8gb RAM, quad-core Intel i7, nvidia geforce m755).

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
that is odd, did lenovo even released the new drivers, I know Sony did for the xperia series and dell since the 1st preview but lenovo has a rep being slow
[Nexus 4 Android Development] str3tch72:
Maybe, but I don't want to upgrade it again, for now, Win 8.1 is best for me. If DirectX 12 will be realased, I will upgrade it to 10. Yeah, I'm gamer. :D

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Check your drivers, I found win 10 awful at first: graphical stuttering, and it would not actually shut down or go into sleep mode. After much googling I found that someone had a similar problem with sleep mode when upgrading to 7, and the answer was the video driver.

I took a look in device manager, and rather than just keeping the driver from 8.1, the upgrade had replaced it with a basic one written by Microsoft. I went to Nvidia, and there was no win10 version for my ancient card, but there was one for 7/8, and this installed just fine. Solved all the issues for me, so if I were you I'd go through the device manager and check that everything is OK before ditching 10.

Edit: What's weird is that the upgrade kept the proprietary drivers for everything else, most of which are way older than the one for the video card..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shakatu:
My desktop works fine now. I have a suspicion it had a lot of apps to migrate over with full Adobe 2015 suite and some other stuff. I don't have all the specs memorized but it has a 3 GHz i5, 24gb ram, SSD, and some 700 series Nvidia card. Can't remember which one but I can play The Walking Dead at full settings! Lol I usually game on PS3 or PS4 so yeah... Linux hates the video card so that's why it won't work.

My laptop is an HP with a 2.5 core 2 duo, 4gb ram, 256 mb Nvidia onboard, but the real issue was the Intel Wireless N card. The drivers weren't compatible with Windows 8 so it would always drop WiFi. I basically just wanted to make it through grad school without buying a new laptop, and I did! So now I don't really use it at all anymore. Lol have a new Tab Pro anyway. My Tab 2 completely fried so my wife got me a Tab Pro as a graduation gift. Best Buy didn't even have them on display, but they were selling the 10.1" for $299 with a 64GB SD for $30!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Windows Update does have that occasional stupidity to not recognize special Drivers for special hardware and uses the generic ones.. Oh well, the generics were never supposed to be permanent... Just enough so you can get past setup.

Of course, WU has gotten MUCH MUCH better at Drivers such as giving you the AMD Catalyst Control Center for your AMD stuff and the manufacturer correct driver, (even if it is sometimes a version behind you can update that yourself [LAZY]) or how it installs the Intel HD graphics driver (and graphics options center thingy) if it detects it.

Some people might call this bloat but why in the world would Advanced featured for your specific hardware a bad thing? AMD Overdrive anyone?

Can I haz chee- I mean laptop? It would still be an improvement over my black laptop... (If I mix and match parts)

(First gen core i3 2.4 ghz dual, Intel HD graphics (worse than 2000!) 6GB RAM, 500 GB HDD)

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] NooBs7yL3:
To many time passed on cm based Rom after Frank dead, and now that I'm come back can't belive how smooth and wonderful is this Rom, and how much is growth layers. This is perfect still haven't tried other kernels and have best battery life. Now I remember why I loved so much this Rom. Thank you very much Syko for your work
[Nexus 4 Android Development] shakatu:
Haha yeah when I bought it in 2008 I made sure it wouldn't be obsolete in a couple years! Spec-wise it's still decent. Just doesn't have the new drivers is all. Technically someone could change the processor to a 2.8 core 2 duo and swap out the WiFi and be fine. Memory is already the max size and speed the laptop will support.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Ha ha ha, nice purchase [emoji14]

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] fr3quency:
Hey guys. I got a question.

I want to play Zenonia S. The thing is I found the .apk and the .obb files(no, it's not patched or piracy or something; Zenonia S had a soft release in specific countries and they said sth about worldwide launch at the end of July which never happened) but when I open it, it says "It's not available in your country".

I tried to change my location and time, but it didn't help. I also tried the market enabler thing which didn't work as well. Can anyone tell me how I can play this game? I'm into Zenonia these days. :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] kuladiamond:
Hi guys, thinking of switching to a phablet. Which phablet might suit my needs as I'm looking for a device that can act as a tablet when I'm home. Considering the note 4 among other things, but after the upgrade to Lollipop I've been hearing the battery life took a turn for the worse. Wondering how the battery life is gonna be if I do a lot of YouTube and web browsing. Would it last the whole day? I currently have a nexus 4 and nexus 7. Could the note 4 replace them both? Or do you guys have experience with other devices which you might recommend?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] KrisMurdrum:
Why not a Nexus 6? The screen is bigger than on Note 4, and I use mine for a lot of tablety things
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Or you can wait a bit and get the Note 5 coming out soon... You know so your device doesn't get obsolete as soon as the new comes out...

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Which "select markets"?

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Which "select markets"?

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] kuladiamond:
I browse the net plus social media around 2-3 hrs per day on top of watching YouTube vids also about 2-3 hrs with both my Nexus 4 and 7. Would the nexus 6 survive that kind of usage (5-6 hrs) screen time?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
No but quick charge makes it so you don't care if it can or not. Full battery in an hour ??
[Nexus 4 Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
And 20 minutes lol ☺

Sent from my Nexus 6
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Just thought I'd leave this here:

http://m.firstpost.com/living/watch-turn-basic-stationary-smartphone-hologram-projector-2377900.html
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Grrr....pesky 404s..
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
Soooo 150 posts to 40K...

(without counting this one)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
anyone tried out strife ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
No, what is it sir?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
a moba, it's focused on the user friendliness, is what you get when dota has sex with LoL and they forget the condom , runs on all platforms except Android and ios
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Ha! Beat ya to it! I found the video 2 days ago and it works great... But seriously DOUBLE THE DIMENSIONS they tell you otherwise you are going to have trouble seeing any image at all! Here is the video: https://youtu.be/7YWTtCsvgvg

And the actual demo: https://youtu.be/Wsg8KDKVNGE

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] spider623:
already on it
[Nexus 4 Android Development] daivee:
Does it have to be the plastic from a CD case. Wanted to try this out.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
No, I anything like it works... Just don't use something too thin or you will have trouble seeing the effect and with the taping part.

But seriously, DOUBLE THE DIMENSIONS!

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] fr3quency:
These countries:

Any way to bypass it? I can find the .apk and .obb, but when I launch it, it says "Not available in your country". I need to bypass this or make it think I live in one of these countries.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tthmatt:
Any news of Android M for Nexus 4 Port?

Thanks
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Last Syko said was that the dev preview wasn't in an advanced enough state to make it worth it, and that he has higher priorities for now, so no, no news....of course that might have been an exercise in expectation management, and he could have a test build running right now for all we know...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] TheDarkDefender:
Anyone checked out the Deadpool trailer? I have no idea what its based on but boy, do I love the trailer ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
Mutant 1.5 is up btw.. https://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=36555

Syko said on g+ that there will be a 1.6 up tomorrow though...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
The back of my Nexus 4 just started to get a little swollen... :( Frank save me
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Targaeryan:
Looks like battery swelling :eek: your back part might pop off!

Loved that green lantern reference...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Indeed, I can press it and it will go "click". Maybe I can make a grenade out of it lol, but I surely don't want to become a suicide bomber. Just now I lowered the temperature threshold to 70c and underclocked to 1350 mhz just to stay cool. Absolutely don't want heat to make it even worse.

Should I continue to use it though?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] KrisMurdrum:
I wouldn't TBH, your battery is becoming unstable so it is no longer a question of IF but rather it WHEN....

Sorry your phone is going the unabomber route...
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Timing also can't be worse, the Moto X Style is a month away.... Plus I don't live in the US so maybe two :crying:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tthmatt:
What is that?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Your phone can last you one more month but I would be very careful with it... As in, be ready to chuck it out the window at any second. ;)

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] adstraylight:
It's Frank updated to 5.1.1, bug fixed aosp + commits for layers customisation.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tthmatt:
What's Frank?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jer_ying_fd:
Umm.. The name of the rom developed by sykopompos? In this very thread?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] tthmatt:
How the battery life and performance?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
About 40 mins to an hour
[Nexus 4 Android Development] googleygoggles:
Are you new here or just trolling? Do you know what layers is?

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[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Most of it is under the hood fixes which making a port of wouldn't do justice.

Beyond that though, it is just api changes that only matter if you are a app developer.

I'll probably port the new nexuses dumps once I get them to the n5 and n6 just so I can see more what is coming in M though
[Nexus 4 Android Development] robygt:
aaaaaaaaarghhhh