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[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Have you tested on your Nexus 4 with all those things working?

If you've fixed them, don't explain how, since you can probably get a reward from Google. :good:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
i dunno what's up with it then... I have no problem with it on KK, but haven't been able to get it to connect on this. It shows the status bar making it about 1/2 way across it's completion area and that's it... never connects to the server

trying vpnbook.com and their servers with openvpn connect client

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Flashin' dirty didn't do anything for my issue...

just wiped it all and trying it clean this time... will attempt a few other things like mms too
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sidnoit22:
Should i spank you both? I am pretty popular for spanking ask [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] he is also my disciple
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I'm seeing the recurring themes happening on all those things and it has to do with IP routing
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Well, clean didn't solve anything either... Still no OpenVPN Connect client functionality (just times out trying to connect) and MMS wont send without WiFi being off...

Sorry, cant stay up... hitting the sheets... g'nite
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
So we know it isn't the binaries that are causing the issues.

Do you know the answer to the question in the updater script though?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Yes u should
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ph37rd:
Question? I'm guessing not since I wasn't aware of there being a question :confused:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
That's definitely true for tethering but I'm not sure that's the problem for MMS, static IP addresses, and VPN's.

For MMS everything works, at least for some of us, when WiFi is switched off so that tells me that L is not activating the cellular connection that's still required to send text messages when WiFi is connected. Since most carriers don't support texting over WiFi, unless they have WiFi calling like T-Mobile (but not for the Nexus devices), Android should be activating the cellular connection when a text message needs to be sent even though by default it switches mobile data off when WiFi is active.

The static IP assignment is working, it's just getting lost when WiFi is turned off or connection is lost. Retaining a fixed IP for a specific SSID across connections doesn't sound like a routing issue to me.

The VPN problems that some people are having and tethering issues could be related but I don't have enough specifics on those to have an opinion at this point.

I guess your hoping that the file swapping with more current AOSP versions might fix these problems and that's possible but I doubt they will all be fixed by the same change(s).

It sure would be nice if there was a "magic bullet" to fix all the outstanding L networking related problems at one time but unfortunately I don't think that's the case. :(

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
It's all tied into the same issue. Some where some how there is am issue with the network configuration and what is going on.

I've said it a million times, the key to fixing things is looking past the apparent issue and see what the underlying cause is.

It may seem completely unrelated and by looking at it, it doesn't make any logical sense but think of it as a huge system, when one thing is broken, normally what you see are telltale traces that seem unrelated but it the process it all stems from the same thing.

According to unlogical whimsical programmer/engineer circular logic, we have issues in systems that are basically static and haven't changed since android was introduced so how can something that wasn't changed, then break? It is because that part works on another part that is failing up the line...

Or I could just be chasing another bunny but we have seen how good I'm at rabbit hunting :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Also. Explain why the wrong apns are being set?

That doesn't make much sense why that is happening when it shouldn't be an issue
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
This. :rolleyes:

You need to drink less coffee, smoke fewer cigarettes and get more sleep. :D

And a new job probably wouldn't hurt. ;)

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Well now I see how much you guys pay attention to my hard work and the easter eggs I started putting in recently
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Someone needs to be the insane one around here that looks at things differently than others :p

That's crazy, so crazy that might just work (Dana carvey voice in master of disguise)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Also all those things seem to cause my best work :p
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
We had that problem (or no APN's) when the KitKat kernels were flashed on the N5 ROM. We still don't know exactly how the kernel impacted the cellular network but it sure did since it wouldn't even start up properly.

I was trained as an engineer so I need to see logic in theories. But it doesn't hurt to be creative sometimes too. :good:

Here's hoping that you catch the bunnies. :highfive:

Even the job? :confused:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Maybe since I'm not using my brain at work, I'm prone to ponder and let my mind run solving issues.

I could use a good night getting drunk though. That might make me think even differently.

I'm a master at troubleshooting and solving issues because I think about things differently then most and try to approach things from every angle
[Nexus 4 Android Development] f4ll3n:
http://www.xda-developers.com/android/chrome-37-material-design-update/

İ update camera to new one i got reboot 2 times

Btw new chrome ui sweet :cool:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
I've always been good at troubleshooting technical issues (I was a technical support supervisor in enterprise level environments for many years) but take a more analytic approach. IT management doesn't allow time for chasing bunnies when the ATM's are down or the patient care systems are offline. :eek:

But as the saying goes, it takes all kinds. :cool:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Might need to dump the databases from kk and L and have a look at them.

Doing it that way might be a bit hacky but it may provide a soultion
[Nexus 4 Android Development] savoca:
Marketing - whaaat? :confused: Not sure where you're going with this please explain.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
The camera may be for the Nexus 5 which supports more features.

I'll give it a try there.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I could definitely tell that you have technical support training by the way that you answer the questions that get asked on how you approach the bugs we find.

I don't think I could ever do that type of environment though as I'm the guy who turns around and sees a broken computer and goes looking outside for the problem looking at voltage spikes and things like that
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
In a little off topic story that still makes me laugh whenever I hear the word bunny.

So I was with my niece and my mother got her a water pistol and she kept squirting me so I told her to stop people with it so then she asked well what can I shoot with it.

A quick answer to tell a kid that would probably forget was to tell her that she should shoot a bunny with it.

Well she spent the entire weekend waiting for that bunny to show up and everyone thought she just wanted to see a rabbit.

So eventually a rabbit shows up while she was sitting outside and her eyes lit up and she screamed, bunny!!!

A few seconds pass and she turns to me and goes with a evil look in her eyes and a big smile

Can I shoot it??? And runs off chasing the rabbit trying to shoot it with the water pistol
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
What I meant is that there may not be any L specific code in those kernels like there is for the "L" kernels on the Nexus 5. [MENTION=5334172]Gnome[/MENTION] explained how he started with KitKat source to make his kernel for the N5 version of this ROM and then merged in patches from his github that are L specific updates.

Could you explain what makes your Nexus 4 kernels that are labeled "L" specific to that environment as we know it today. I just didn't think the Nexus 4 was ready for that until there is an official release of L for mako but I am sincerely interested in hearing your explanation.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sidnoit22:
Plot twist : It was B7
[Nexus 4 Android Development] savoca:
Ah - Well I haven't dug it apart on N4 (someone had the patches before me), nor did I really on N5. To my understanding the patches I added on the Nexus 4 "L-Preview" branch allow the ROM to boot, simple as that. I don't test or run these, I don't use L on N4 - I actually won't be giving it 'real' support or attention until an official L release from Google since the source I pulled from the port guys looks pretty ugly. However with the N5, you could boot a KK kernel on the L-Preview, but without cherry-picking Google's changes you won't have radio I believe. See this pic http://imgur.com/4tobGiF - No signal. There's really nothing in the kernel that L needs to work though.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bitstra:
had a quick test with that here:

MMS works via Hangouts (no APN settings changed -> OOB)!

WFi-Thethering works - (after toggling WiFi-Hotspot off/on 1 time)

BT-Tethering - Fails!

AutoChange WiFi<->mobile Data works fine!

BTW: latest Google Camera update also works fine fine here! - All resolutions tested HDR-none HDR ...

Thanx!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Don't look at me, I didn't do it!!!

For the n4, there isn't any L patches that are actually needed.

As far as the n5, we did kinda semi trace down the radio bug and it comes down to either the qmuxd qsee or the qcril stuff and we had kk kernels with working radio but the camera broke
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
That matches our experience on the N5 trying to flash KitKat kernels without the L patches, even when the ramdisk for the N5 version of this ROM is included.

Do your "L" kernels run with KitKat ROM's on the N4? I'm guessing they do at this point.

So the bottom line is that the "L" designation for your Nexus 4 kernels is just to identify compatibility with this L port? If that's correct I will give one of them a try since I was just waiting for an answer to that question. Also, is OC'ing the only difference between the two versions and other than compatibility with this ROM the features the same as those listed in your OP?

Thanks for your feedback.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
So the question is? Is anything different or was that normal?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] savoca:
Ah just assumed it prevented boot without. :|

Yes the L builds will probably boot on KK, however I'm ditching those builds and adding Google's official patches to N4 when the time comes, would be easier than making the L builds I have now the primary builds.

The only difference in OC/non-OC is ability to OC CPU and GPU, that's it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bitstra:
MMS didn#t work (Hangouts) didn't work OOB here before 'mako-dada-test':good:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
It smoothed it out and made it a bit more responsive from what the feedback was. I'm not a kernel guy so I wasn't the one who went down there and patched in the L preview stuff to the kit Kat kernel source and truthfully I really wouldn't even know too well what I was looking at.

The test is probably still floating around here that [MENTION=275009]ramjet73[/MENTION] tested for me by matching some n5 proprietary binaries back to the kit Kat versions so we could trace it down but once we started getting some n5 L preview kernels working, we kinda ditched tracing down exactly what was causing what.

I would have probably put a lot more effort into tracing it down on the n5 if I had one just to sate my own personal curiosity to know why but it just became a meh point then
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
What's a OOB?

So no having to set the hangouts APN anymore with that test? If so that is damn sweet and tells us this is a 2 part problem.

Did Bluetooth tethering work before? Or did I break something in the process?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Another kernel option

For anyone interested in trying the Furnace kernels by [MENTION=4316709]savoca[/MENTION] with this ROM they can be found here and the OP for his Nexus 4 kernels is here.

You will need to use one of the two with the "LPreview" designation.

Out Of Box.

I believe Microsoft may have coined that term with their "OOB Experience" campaign from a few years back.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bitstra:
OOB - OutOf Box

... sorry forgotten (BT-before):

nope, you didn't break BT-tethering - it didn't work for me before too...:good:
[Nexus 4 Android Development] dodgebizkit:
My guess is port bugs first but if the other bugs are easily fixable without getting in the way of the priority, getting a nice port, surely they work on them too. That's the best I can give - I've followed most of the thread (and needed a bucket of ice for my head most of the time lol) and the answer wasnt explicitly stated (nor the question asked afaik).

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Sent from Android L for Loser, Lemon or Lesbian Pie.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ferrocene:
If I could make a small suggestion, with all these releases, it may be helpful to include the version numbers in the System/Build Number in Android. Once flashed, there's no easy way to tell which build someone is running.

https://github.com/Android-L-Porting-Team/Android-L-Mako/blob/master/scripts/buildinfo.prop#L4
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Aashrey99:
Can someone please mirror beta 3 - v3?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ebart:
Is there a way I could flash that zip?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] HewettBR:
its in the OP

https://github.com/Android-L-Porting-Team/Android-L-Mako/releases
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Only in the b3 series as there was a few issues with getting that all setup, permissions being changed once up on git and things of that nature.

There was a lot of bugs smashed between 2 and 3 but we all had a long day and github wasn't setup till after most of the big bug smashes

As most of them were done while I was sleeping or at work, I do not know them all yet

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] :
I've been tethering to another phone, tablet and chromecast. Follow nexus 5 kitkat instructions (search is your friend) on editing global settings.db for tether_dun_required and change APN to ipv4 for unlimited tether with tmobile. My data plan shows 0.0gb used of 3gb and I'm over 200gb for the current month with help from netflix. And my chromecast.

As for the bug, it seems I'm on WPA psk and not wpa2 psk. I had to play with it a bit
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Zehlek:
Beta 3 boots fine for me. I even dirty flashed from Beta 2
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Add it to the bug tracker so it can Ben will see it when he wakes up, he set up all the scripts for the building on github to automate the uploading directly from github when the source is synced and selected to upload a new release

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Zehlek:
MMS now works with Beta 3
[Nexus 4 Android Development] himzz0007:
Battery life using Custom kernels or the Stock

guys can u post ur battery life using custom kernal or stock kernel whichever u using so we get an idea which kernel is best for battery:D
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Our concern is getting rid of the bugs of the actual port and not Google's since it is just a preview with a lot of known bugs. Then after we get them all smashed out and to 99% to just Google's bugs, we will start working on known Google problems with fixes and rolling in those fixes. At this point this is no intent to add extra features but we are also working on trying to help other developers port it to their devices also but our priority is the port's bugs

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] nimo1996:
sorry this may be a repeat question but whats is diffrence between beta2 and beta3 preview3 ?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] jayRokk:
Not everyone uses the same apps and uses their phone at the same time as you. You're going to have mixed answers.

Try using stock kernel for a few days. Record your stats flash another and use for a few days compare the stats and chose what's best for you :)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] senthilrameshjv:
Guys the auto switch to 3g even you set it as 2g, is that L preview bug or the port one?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Warnahly:
Beta 3 preview 3 is just beautiful thanks for a great build
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Check a page back.

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] RealiZms:
I'm guessing MMS is broken completely?

8sms not working nor hangouts.. Is there a messaging app that does MMS on L?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Alright guys. Bed time for me. I believe everyone of us is sleeping now but [MENTION=4913184]percy_g2[/MENTION] should be around soon. He will have a much better idea of the changes between 2 and 3

Sent from my C6916
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
I still have all the files that were used (AOSP and L versions) for that test if someone else wants to try them with B6 but I have no interest in running KitKat kernels on the Nexus 5 version of this ROM at this point.

Just so things are clear, since topics are starting to cross over between threads, we are talking about testing on the Nexus 5 not the Nexus 4.

For the record, I just got a Chrome update for the Nexus 5 that matches that version and Google Camera was recently updated and already at that level. Both apps work fine on the Nexus 5 version of this ROM.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] bart.found:
Hi Sikopompos, when i was on kitkat I used to turn off the screen while using google maps as a sat navigator.. And it worked fine..

Today i tried to do the same thing on L using defconoi kernel and after few minutes the google girl said "gps connection lost".

Is there any kind of power saving feature in the kernel or in android L that turns off the gps when the screen is off?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PugRallye:
Hi,

Weird one last night...

My phone drained its battery in about 4 hours while I was in bed (phone was in Airplane mode).

This is on b6 with Hells Core b52.

Luckily I woke and wanted to check the time and discovered that the phone was completely dead - I was able to put it on charge and not miss my alarm call this morning.

I've reverted back to b6 and no third party kernel (as I'm suspecting that may be the issue).

Thought I'd raise it.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ruicc:
Glad you post a link to furnace kernels, i'm running this kernel along with B6 since it comes out, till now 0 problems.

Savoca is right, when sources come out to Nexus 4, it will be easy to build a 100% compatible kernel. For me i prefer only a L-kernel compatible, and not a KK/L.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] frikakwa:
I had more or less the same issue: a sudden battery drain from 50% to 0% in a few secs... just after updating the Google camera and trying the "lense blur" mode! Now I've cleared the data from the app and will see if this doesn't happen again!

In a nutshell: battery drain really seems to be related to a third party app. Not a rom issue!

I already had the same kind of issue when updating G+... I think more and more that after each Google app update we should maybe clear their apps datas! #shameongoogle
[Nexus 4 Android Development] V_tunes:
Me too! Experienced last night, phone with third part kernel makes battery drain and totally dead after few hours in the airplane mode.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Roboffabike:
As a comparison, I am on Stock b6 and my battery only lost 2% in 8hrs overnight.

(On WiFi, all syncs etc on)
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CamoGeko:
Strange, I'm on a third party kernel (hellscore b53) and I haven't experienced any weird abnormal drain yet.

Sent using Android L
[Nexus 4 Android Development] steviemch:
Running hellscore b47 on a clean flash of b6 with no drainage problems whatsoever.

Sent by Borg neural subspace transceiver node.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] PugRallye:
I think the issue more related to the combination of a third party kernel and prolonged use of Airplane mode.

I had normal battery drain all day with HC b52 and general use.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] treefrog20012003:
I'm going with a rouge app causing some people's problem, I ran it for two hours, and the only trouble I ran into since all I did was load apps and play games was a crash issue with one of my games. I think the battery did really well.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
Just for clarification, the discussion with [MENTION=4316709]savoca[/MENTION] resulted in the conclusion that the "LPreview" versions have the ramdisk from this ROM for compatibility, but do not include any L code per se. Those Furnace kernels are equivalent to the "L" versions from [MENTION=1316336]defconoi[/MENTION] which are installed as complete boot.img files versus the anykernel method that others like Hellscore use. They are still KitKat kernels with the ramdisk from this ROM, the same as any other kernel that is compatible with this ROM.

The only downside of the complete boot.img approach is that changes [MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] makes to the ramdisk, like the recent addition of more security rules, may not get included if the ramdisk is not updated by [MENTION=4316709]savoca[/MENTION]. Kernels using the anykernel method will retain the ramdisk that is part of the default boot.img of the current version of the ROM.

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Oh, derp
[Nexus 4 Android Development] TA123:
Tried to send a mms to myself. Hangout failed to receive it, but tried chompSMS and it worked. The APN settings in hangout are quite strange. I'm on EE but the settings are for Virgin.
[Nexus 4 Android Development] Sir_gpm:
Is there a trick to hide navbar?
[Nexus 4 Android Development] CamoGeko:
3rd party apps is the only way at the moment afaik
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
I got the same strange APN thing with T-Mobile. The test build I put up last night was an attempt to correct that
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ihancioglu:
add this line to end of /system/build.prop did trick, but needs reboot the device.

qemu.hw.mainkeys=1
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sidnoit22:
[MENTION=1050103]sykopompos[/MENTION] Can you show us the latest animations preview like side by side. Just off the topic thing. :/

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Don't mess with the System UI at the moment or you will get a bootloop or FC's!
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Sure. Get a second n4, flash bunny stew on it and then put it next to bbw
[Nexus 4 Android Development] ramjet73:
That's interesting.

I'm on T-mobile and the APN's in Hangouts and mobile networks settings look normal (see attached screenshots). I just did a fresh install of B6 and haven't touched the APN's at all. :confused:

ramjet73
[Nexus 4 Android Development] sykopompos:
Mine would default to metro and my radio would drop in and out and I would get really bad service until I changed it to T-Mobile.

Seems several people have had the same issue with L and wrong default apns and apparently that might have been what is causing the wrong APN in hangout or none there but [MENTION=2981094]bitstra[/MENTION] is saying on the data test that is finally worked out the box with the correct APN when it hasn't on previous versions so I am curious of other people get the same effect and that will give us an idea if the binary test was good.

I actually used kk's netcfg and iptables on it because I believe the networking isn't getting routed correctly