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[Xperia SP General] igor_anta:
I'm running PA build #10 since the moment neXus PRIME uploaded it with the mic fix (disable) and it's amazing. Fast and reliable, and I'm running it fully stacked with Xposed modules and all.

The one thing that's bugging me is the Apps2SD. I don't see any benefit from it, the apps that show up as if they're on SD still take up internal space. And on top of that I lose the homescreen shortcuts for those apps on every reboot (this is on Google Launcher).

Please note, I'm not saying you should fix this by all means, but maybe consider removing it if a better solutions doesn't pop up, and maybe recommend FolderMount or something similar to users that want to fill up the phone.

PS. One user asked about Trebuchet vs Google Launcher. I'd say take Google Launcher with Xposed GEL Settings over anything else :)
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Good option. I might remove apps2sd, will discuss with [MENTION=5579865]MrSteve555[/MENTION]. I remember there is a very good app Link2SD available which can do a pretty decent job as well.

Thanks for review.

Edit: [MENTION=5579865]MrSteve555[/MENTION]

Bad news fo LBL

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/google-experimental-3-10-defconfigs-msm-exynos-tegra/
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Hmm, let me explain something.

App2SD works, but not in the way you expect it to work. It moves part of the data to sdcard, other part still stays in internal memory(actually it's the default behavior of Android since forever) I looked in some Samsung threads(Samsung phones have builtin app2sd functionality), and it works like that on them(doesn't move game data).

So it's helpful, but won't replace Folder Mount or anything. You can disable it if you want in Settings -> Applications

I was also quite disappointed with the App2SD, but it seems like something was changed in KK, so it doesn't work like earlier anymore.

So there won't really be a better inbuilt alternative to that, and removing it still lefts "Disable app moving" option in the OS, so it works weird and looks unclean. So, in my opinion, better to just leave it as is, if it can be disabled, no harm in it.

"Does it mean that all supported devices will be updated to work*with a new 3.10 kernel? Unlikely, but those configs can be used by developers to enhance the custom kernel building experience."

So it's not that bad. I suggest just to wait, maybe L will still be working fine with 3.4 kernel.

Also, Nexus 7 2012 is going to get L, but nVidia never released proper kernel sources of 3.4 kernel, so even now that device runs KK on 3.0 kernel.
[Xperia SP General] air001:
Ok. This is a general question about PAC rom. On a hungarian forum someone said some options missing from PAC Rom. For example PAC in black and PAC pellets. Is this true? And if yes what is the reason?
[Xperia SP General] Treboeth:
On the PAC ROM the used RAM seems higher

Also shows less in kk launcher

Does anybody else find the same.

And which one should I believe [emoji15]
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
The ROM combines features of three ROMs, so it will obviously have less free RAM.

https://plus.google.com/1025572429363413...9YS5D9Lqo3
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
PAC-man : The AIO RomOWNER

Discussion - 29 Jul 2014

#Android

Beloved users, please under stand that as Pac (and android) are constantly evolving; the rapid evolution of Android (and therefore Pac) sometimes creates an experience where updating Pac on your device may feel like a step back.

You get it flashed, boot and then you have less features; this is what you call a rebase. A rebase is when you start the code fresh from google(AOSP) with a pinch of some fresh CM; then from there, for us, you begin the process of rebuilding, re-coding and re-cherry picking the 'commits' that make Pac Rom into what it is known for.

Please just keep patient and check the (interactive, device specific) Pac-rom log for patches to be merged about any features you're missing out on.﻿
[Xperia SP General] TsunaH:
What did you use to increase volume ?

Sent from me
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
I have a battery drain probrelm on PA, during the night: i use greenify and wifi disabled but i think i lost almost 25% during the night O.o. What can i do ?
[Xperia SP General] air001:
Wrong link! :eek:
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Nevermind, neXus added the contents of that g+ link right below my post.
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
could someone mirror the .207 fw for me ? https://mega.co.nz/#!PQRglRgY!kLntG3tvJp3TcVqfKtawBTV4Rwa5v8-mtLLQU-ifwOU . this link dosent open for me
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
http://d-h.st/K4Q
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
lifesaver :)
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
Is Art working proprely with PA ROM?
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
flashed it. no network now:confused:

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yes. works like a charm
[Xperia SP General] air001:
Pardon. Maybe I missed it, but where can I find a recovery flashable kernels?
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
check previous page

edit :never mind . http://d-h.st/K4Q

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https://mega.co.nz/#!yV4jCYJa!UtIPyWQ6sqsqjsHEmGoKg4FVowV0A8YRXnKRGnLSPbU

can someone mirror it?

edit: never mind, tor browser to the rescue
[Xperia SP General] Pyruzan:
Don't know if here's the proper place, but I just wanted to thank both neXus PRIME and MrSteve555 for the new PACROM, it's the smoothest rom I've tried so far, even smoother than PA. Keep up the great work guys.
[Xperia SP General] Nathan rd:
steve could you add rom in mega fastest and reliable to download TIA
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
I have inferred my ROM users are very happy with the current offerings. PAC has actually gotten very good reviews against expectations. So i have decided to think about the shortcomings and improve them

1. OTA support is currently missing (Dont worry, coming soon for both PA and PAC)

2. Rear Mic is not fixed (Dont worry, this isnt going to be fixed soon ;p)

3. Battery life not gr8 (lets work on this. See below)

bagyusz initially added lionheart n wheatley governors. Searching a bit showed this for lionheart

and this for wheatley

23: Wheatley:
Building on the classic 'ondemand' governor is implemented Wheatley governor. The governor has two additional parameters:

target_residency - The minimum average residency in µs which is considered acceptable for a proper efficient usage of the C4 state. Default is 10000 = 10ms.

allowed_misses - The number sampling intervals in a row the average residency is allowed to be lower than target_residency before the governor reduces the frequency. This ensures that the governor is not too aggressive in scaling down the frequency and reduces it just because some background process was temporarily causing a larger number of wakeups. The default is 5.
Wheatley works as planned and does not hinder the proper C4 usage for task where the C4 can be used properly .
For internet browsing the time spend in C4 has increased by 10% points and the average residency has increased by about 1ms. I guess these differences are mostly due to the different browsing behaviour (I spend the last time more multi-tabbing). But at least we can say that Wheatley does not interfere with the proper use of the C4 state during 'light' tasks. For music playback with screen off the time spend in C4 is practically unchanged, however the average residency is reduced from around 30ms to around 18ms, but this is still more than acceptable.

So the results show that Wheatley works as intended and ensures that the C4 state is used whenever the task allows a proper efficient usage of the C4 state. For more demanding tasks which cause a large number of wakeups and prevent the efficient usage of the C4 state, the governor resorts to the next best power saving mechanism and scales down the frequency. So with the new highly-flexible Wheatley governor one can have the best of both worlds.

Obviously, this governor is only available on multi-core devices.

Obviously, lionheart is not battery friendly. Wheatley seems too much complicated for me to understand.

What i have learned on my previous 3 phones, Smartassv2 governor with CFQ/BFQ schedulers was an ideal combination for performance and battery life.

Long story short, i will add smartassv2 and bfq modules in ROM. If some users have any better option suggesstion, please let me know. We will finalize and add them.
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Glad to see PAC out now, cant wait until they incorporate hover into it then ill switch (as i've really gotten to love it).
[Xperia SP General] Emma22288:
In my olda HTC sensation I realy loved the SmartassV2 Governor.

SmartassV2:

Version 2 of the original smartass governor from Erasmux. Another favorite for many a people. The governor aim for an "ideal frequency", and ramp up more aggressively towards this freq and less aggressive after. It uses different ideal frequencies for screen on and screen off, namely awake_ideal_freq and sleep_ideal_freq. This governor scales down CPU very fast (to hit sleep_ideal_freq soon) while screen is off and scales up rapidly to awake_ideal_freq (500 mhz for GS2 by default) when screen is on. There's no upper limit for frequency while screen is off (unlike Smartass). So the entire frequency range is available for the governor to use during screen-on and screen-off state. The motto of this governor is a balance between performance and battery.
[Xperia SP General] Fat_boy555:
Pls leave lionheart in the rom as it can be tuned for a balance between battery life and performance and I use it and have battery life which I'm happy with. About 14hrs with constant use of data and texting.

EDIT: If you don't mind, can u add lulzactive? Thx!
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Hover is coming soon. I checked Gerrit and most of stuff was near approval.

Who said anything about removing. I'll just add. First of all i need to figure out how to build separate modules for stock kernel.
[Xperia SP General] cipetonk:
is it safe to replace superuser from ROM with supersu?
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
It should be (although superuser is built in to this ROM) i've done it on older versions but there's no real need to as the built in one is just as good.
[Xperia SP General] cipetonk:
zzmmove was very good and tunable on my old device, maybe you'll consider adding it :p
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
there is no nighties coming out anymore from the official pac rom. the latest one was 20140701.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Hmm, I deleted the ROM zip from my sdcard by accident, and I don't want to go through the devhost downloading pain. So I'm really sorry, but mega mirror is coming only for build #2.:(
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
I'll upload mega. Don't worry
[Xperia SP General] Fat_boy555:
Is it OK to flash .207 kernel and use it with Paranoid Android B10?
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
Yep runs great
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Does anyone who installed pac ROM have Pac in black and other features ?
[Xperia SP General] Nathan rd:
deleted

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[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
XDA forum is text-based. So users have to read things(I know, it's weird and rude, the creators should implement automatic machine that transfers thread contents directly to brain (sarcasm)). Really, reading is easy and awesome. Just a few pages ago there was an awesome discussion about "why PAC doesn't have PAC features". And there is a relevant G+ post linked and quoted for EVERYONE.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
just wanted to make sure Im not the only one who's having this issue.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I heard people say PAC is amazing . I'm on latest cm nightly UBL I want to try this..... how to? Flash stock kernel? then flash ROM
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
There is a clear guide in the PAC ROM thread(first post).

It's not an issue. The ROM is being rebased, just wait and it will have all the features you wanted ;)
[Xperia SP General] Fat_boy555:
Does anyone have a flashable 205 kernel for lbl?
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
https://mega.co.nz/#!yV4jCYJa!UtIPyWQ6sqsqjsHEmGoKg4FVowV0A8YRXnKRGnLSPbU

Note: Only for C5303!
[Xperia SP General] Pyruzan:
SmartassV2 is one the best performance/battery balanced governors available, although I've been using wheatley from the moment I saw it available and have been happy with it. Strangely enough though, AnTuTu crashes with wheatley as governor :silly:

Please add "ROW" and "SIO" schedulers if it's possible, then I would be as happy as a child :laugh:

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One more thing; it seems the graphics performance of the PAC-ROM could enjoy some improvement. It has a notable distance from stock and is behind the PA.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
In HTC there was proc/config.gz file containing stock kernel defconfig. Now, in Sony, i can't seem to find it. Using the one in source seems risky.

Can anyone point me to it. No alteration, just stock kernel defconfig
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Coming from cm11 nightly without wiping to PAC , this very stable I think it's the kernel....

OK now I can say this blows stock rom out of water but don't know about battery yet.
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
[MENTION=2988582]NexusPrime[/MENTION] [MENTION=5579865]MrSteve555[/MENTION] . A request . Whenever you upload on mega.co.nz ,would you be kind enough to mirror it on devhost? Reason being that the site is blocked by my internet provider and yes, although that could be bypassed and site can be viewed by one way or the other, the " ways" massively reduce the internet downloading speed . (The highest ive reached is 30 kbps) . Just a request. Cheers ?

Don't just say thanks. Hit it :D
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
No reply? I think i better post in some doomlord thread and hope he replies.

EDIT; Both builds are ready for upload. PAC #2 and PA # 11. Just source updates, no tree changes.

OTA support not yet in both. I will release a standalone package later on. Its app is giving me trouble.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
https://github.com/sonyxperiadev/kernel-copyleft/tree/12.1.A.1.xxx/scripts

I heard that using extract-ikconfig script would extract the thing you want.

If it doesn't work, the only way is to get the defconfig grom source.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
The battery life is so good on PAC ROM.

Keep in mind I did 2 reboots.

I watched a lot of videos on the browser

Maybe an hour or an hour and half

I did not use any kind of battery saving apps
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
How? Kernel?:eek::banghead:
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
I'm using stock kernel .207
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
Wow, cant get more than 4 hours... On stock kernel too
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Well, if you use wheatley governor you can get the 4+ hours screen on time quite easily. And if you underclock(just a bit, to1200 MHz) you can get the best battery life.
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
Road Block, we can only use below governors.

Thats y i think bagyusz added only the missing ones. I hate being locked. :(
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
That's a bugger, good old Sony limiting us again.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
For me I did not change any settings.

I did not underclock
[Xperia SP General] spicx212:
I use wealthey, and underlock to 1500MHz :(
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
Under clocking is useless for battery but undervolting is helpful
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
I seem to be having problems changing my nav bar keys . Iv tried lots of xposed apps and none of them seem to work

Don't just say thanks. Hit it :D

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Good for you mate but i dont think if undervolting would be supported on a stock kernel

Don't just say thanks. Hit it :D
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
I think it's not that bad :)

Looking at intelliactive:

The 1. point is neat. Intelliactive offers (if I understood correctly) boosting frequencies on input - and this makes everything butterly smooth, without massively decreasing battery life. Also it seems like it's battery friendly.

And:

Intellidemand feels like perfect governor for me - it's battery friendly when idling, and it's performance friendly when gaming.

So in my opinion, Sony left us with some neat stuff to discover.

Also, what about different IO schedulers? Can they be implemented?
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Bagyusz originally added SIO alongside Wheatley but then removed it again not sure why, so perhaps they can.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
I wasn't too clear about my question. I was thinking about what schedulers can we add(in other words: what are allowed in the stock kernel defconfig).

Btw, one thing that surprised me is that Sony added support for governor created by faux123 in the defconfig. I'm not experienced in all that kernel stuff, but it just feels a little bit weird. [MENTION=4350492]neXus PRIME[/MENTION]

I'm shocked that no one complained about the brightness levels. I've added some adjusted values(from official CM device tree) and made a pull request with the changes.
[Xperia SP General] cipetonk:
+1

minimum brightness is still too bright :D
[Xperia SP General] Pyruzan:
Really sorry for being off topic; my sister has an Arc S and I've tried so many roms on it I lost count, a couple of weeks ago I came across Slimkat and let's give it a go I said to myself. From the first boot it's been supernaturally fast and smooth; makes you completely forget you're using a 2011 device and of course wondering how it performs on a device as powerful as our SP.

Well, we already have an (abandoned?) thread of Slim for LBL by bagyusz, I just humbly request if it's possible, maintain it alongside PA and PAC.
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
PAC should contain the best bits of slim and other ROMs so why maintain a third ROM for the sake of it? Try out PA or PAC and youll see ROMs way smoother than Slimkat.
[Xperia SP General] Pyruzan:
If I want to answer with your own logic then I should ask why even maintain a second rom (I mean PA) when PAC contains the best bits of all?!

Slim is an original rom based on AOSP not like a lot of others based on and mixing CM, PA, Omni, Slim itself..., it's got its own identity and philosophy, it's not just another rom!

BTW I have tried PA and PAC (I'm currently on PAC).
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Id agree when PAC gets hover and the PA recents then yes id see PA itself as not that worthwhile, PA however is probably closer to AOSP though so some may prefer it to the feature packed and customisable PAC ROM.

Anyway its not our decision its nexus' what he decides to make. I think PA and PAC are decent choices to keep everyone happy.
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
PAC is the best thing happened to xperia sp mate

It's very fast with the 207 kernel and good batterylife

......
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Which ROM will you focus on more, PAC or PA ?
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
I tried pa ,cm then pac well pac was the best.. Of the bunch I dunno how?

It behaves like stock but its clearly superior in performance and multitasking
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
I dont mean to speak on behalf on [MENTION=2988582]NexusPrime[/MENTION] but i guess this ROM deserves his time . the ROM has tons of potential and according to me it needs to be exploited to its best

Don't just say thanks. Hit it :D
[Xperia SP General] Gamm86:
PA > PAC.

If you're really into tweaking performance to the max and keeping battery life as it is, PA is much better in terms of stability.
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
For me it's like that:

PA>CM>MIUI>AOSP>PAC>AOKP>SlimROM and other source built ROMs>Sony firmware

PA is just clean and focuses more on design and usability.

PAC isn't bad and has lots of features that aren't useful for me, but I think a big amount of people will like the idea of having "all teh featurez".
[Xperia SP General] Farooq95:
For me why does pac feel better than pa?
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Not tried PAC yet (waiting for v2) but I love PA its smooth stable and great, I love hover and am looking forward to the L style recents change in 4.5.

Unless there's some really nice features in PAC ill go back to Pa but i like to try all ROMs I can.
[Xperia SP General] TsunaH:
PAC have more customisation than PA
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
I tried both, I don't find something special about PA, PAC is faster and has better battery life, and I hope PAC the PA features too and recent stack card too.
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Eventually im sure PAC will get those features im waiting for hover before trying it properly I think. Not sure if itll be in build 2 or not as they are rebasing the ROM.
[Xperia SP General] jaretti:
Hi all,

I'm on PA and getting alot of "Unfortunately, <app name> has stopped". Does anyone have an idea what might be causing it.

Thanks alot
[Xperia SP General] mn399:
I am on pa. Can i get the features of pac with gravitybox? What 's different?
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
Flash (install) the rom again BUT before that make sure to delte data, cache, dalvik cache. OR if you have philz recovery ( recommended ) just hit i want to install a new rom and flash the rom. Everything will work fine ?

Don't just say thanks. Hit it :D

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Just try PAC . you are bound to be mindstruck . Granted it dosent have a feature or two (for now) . But the rom is DEFINATELY worth a shot

Don't just say thanks. Hit it :D
[Xperia SP General] neXus PRIME:
My 3000th post. Special Milestone with special announcement.

To Everyone,

PA Build # 11

http://d-h.st/Sim

PAC Build # 02 (@MrSteve555 please update PAC thread.)

http://d-h.st/J1V

Changelog: (For Both)

- FW updates from .207

- Source Update

- Reverted Optimization One Level. To compare Gameplay & stability.

Note:

Both are incremental source updates, so just optional but not mandatory.

OP,

Please change Thread title to (Discussion thread for neXus ROMs, Paranoid Android and P-A-C) [KitKat]
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
hey guys, does this new PA 4.5 update have new recent card stack?

what about new PAC build, does it have new features, or it still the same?
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
Phew, I've just downloaded build #11 of PA.

Here's a mega mirror link, for these people who get like 20kb/s when using d-h.st:

https://mega.co.nz/#!rZ4ngRRA!B-I7wEUfoFpiTIV6FL2w-k9pq8Qn-xn1hTQx2Y04fMI [MENTION=4350492]neXus PRIME[/MENTION]

Kindly add this mirror to OP of PA thread.

I'll also download PAC zip and I'll mirror it a little bit later.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Does PA have recent card stack? and did the performance got better?
[Xperia SP General] MrSteve555:
No, it doesn't have the recent card stack. It will be implemented in the next build(hopefully). I can't speak about performance as I've flashed it maybe 2 minutes ago. But whole UI seems a little bit fluider and smoother.
[Xperia SP General] arhun:
What is them theme name and icon pack you have installed in the screenshots. I have installed PAC and i want to make my SP beautiful.!!!:laugh:.
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Does PAC Hover now?
[Xperia SP General] kanav96:
get xposed

:cyclops:
[Xperia SP General] ironshadow2:
Icons are from Gem Flat theme

wallpaper is from ShocoUI (XDA colors) theme

Im using Z2 launcher
[Xperia SP General] arhun:
[MENTION=5579865]MrSteve555[/MENTION], [MENTION=4350492]neXus PRIME[/MENTION] and all,

Thanks for the latest build.its super smooth..

Is it possible to have trebuchet launcher installed in PA rom.

I liked the launcher settings like icon size, fonts of app drawer, apps sorting based on number of opens and install time, etc

This is the only thing i'm missing in this ROM :crying:. Pls help guyz..
[Xperia SP General] Gamm86:
Apex launcher is a good alternative which is available on google play.

Not too many bells and whistles so it's very smooth but it has the options that you mentioned.
[Xperia SP General] arhun:
Thanks for the suggestion... Will i cat transparent status bar, navigation bar with apex launcher in this ROM??
[Xperia SP General] Oblox:
Nova is another free alternative.