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[Moto 360] spinaldex:
I picked up my watch a few days ago. Today was the first day I didn't tweak with it, mainly because I was too busy to. I removed all applications from it last night, put on one of the default moto clocks (black background, digital clock and minute hand, turned on the Ambient Sensor, made sure it was at 100% and off we went. Using Wear Battery Stats, I'm using 7.88% per hour, so that's a 12 hour battery. That is reasonable for some days, but to put this in perspective, I only used "Ok Google" 5x, and no navigation, only got a couple dozen notifications, and played no music. So, around 5pm I charged it back up to full and this time disabled the ambient sensor. Right now, Wear Battery Stats tells me the battery usage has dropped to 7.12% per hour, so that change resulted in negligible changes.

If someone people are truly seeing 3% usage ... what are they using? What is your exact clock? What are the installed applications? Is there any way to see what is draining our watches?

Something seems off here.
[Moto 360] ern88:
I am sitting at 6.5%. I guess that is the norm. Maybe not using it and keeping it in airplane mode would get you 2.5% . That only a guess!!!
[Moto 360] leyvatron:
4 hours later.

I have mini launcher and facer installed. I'm currently using the moto rotate face with red accent, ambient off. Igot a good amount of group text messages, game notifications, and like 5 emails.

Edit: no auto. Brightness set to 1.
[Moto 360] mk92595:
16hours later and its 45%. I'm satisfied
[Moto 360] volcalstone:
I use this AW app called task manager. On the phone side you could install wear app managers like the one I'm using which is SYU.

---------- Post added at 12:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 AM ----------

See my post above.
[Moto 360] irononreverse:
I'm running at 10fps, seems acceptable
[Moto 360] subhani:
Quick feedback. I found that enabling ambient works better for me and auto brightness. Brightness 1 is brighter than auto.

During ambient, I get dim mode more often than fully lit mode. When i disable ambient, it fully lights up most of the time with every flick of the watch. Seems counter intuitive but works for me. I'll put up my battery stats SS end of the day.
[Moto 360] dersie:
With app like https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=wear.taskman you can see running task. You can see that wear system launch what he wants, even if you kill task wear can re-load 3s after. Very bad task management by wear.

Even after reboot, my LG launch in memory 5-8 watchface even if I not use them. I have many face from Smartwatch Bureaux Axx and wear launch at least 4 or 5 every time. I will try to greenify some face to see if they stop launch ?
[Moto 360] leyvatron:
Didn't charge it overnight and sitting at 51%.

Weird thing is it shows that the watch was on overnight.
[Moto 360] subhani:
I took the link from [MENTION=4846801]volcalstone[/MENTION] called SYU wear manager and installed it on my phone. From there, after killing apps that were running, they appear to stay dead... For now at least. I'll let you know if the apps revive themselves and respawn to hog memory and resources.
[Moto 360] mmx6688:
3-4% battery drain per hour is average after my monitoring for one month. And lots of notification and use facer For anyone want to reference. I am happy with it which can survive for one long day.
[Moto 360] leyvatron:
With 17% left. Going to charge it tonight. Light/medium usage. No sms replies, only email deletes and some song changes.
[Moto 360] ern88:
My battery life. :)
[Moto 360] boiteta:
Wow ! How come it so low?
[Moto 360] distortedloop:
Because he just took it off the charger.

Look at the time of the screen shot (6:39) versus the graph and the red bar indicating the screen was on and the watch was at 100% charge.

Sent from my XT1095
[Moto 360] subhani:
See how bad mine is? And this is actually an improvement. Used to be MUCH worse before... I've decided to stop worrying and have turned the watch off, turned Bluetooth on my phone off and started to love my phone again LOL. SONY Z3 FTW!
[Moto 360] ern88:
Here is my update. Not bad. Used it for 10 hours today.
[Moto 360] lemonov:
My battery life has gotten better and I didn't really do anything. I wanted to see how fast the battery drains when the watch is not connected to my phone. I fully charged the watch at 12 am, took it off the charger, turned bluetooth off on my phone and left the watch overnight. At 9:30 am it was at 90%. I put it back on charger, charged it to 100%, and started using it at 10. I was wearing it all day, ambient off, 5-10 notifications per hour, had around 40% left at 9pm. That was yesterday. Today my battery life was much better than it was last week. Last week my watch would be at 50% at 11:30am (off charger since 6:25am). Today I was down to 50% around 2:30pm (off charger since 6am).
[Moto 360] Masssy:
In the recent days I've been at 50% at night 00:00 using the watch from ~09:00. I'm satisfied.
[Moto 360] tyraelasd:
I can also confirm that my batter life has got better without doing to much to be honest. I've only stopped pushing facer watch faces all day and that's it really.

I'd say for those of you who still can't make it through a full day, just take it easy changing watch faces ( u can use facer, im using it right now ) and for a couple of days or weeks let the watch die before you take it to the charger.

Finally getting around 12-15hours with 30-40% left wich is enough for me.
[Moto 360] HuStLaZ:
My battery life has gotten better too. I agree with switching faces, after I stuck to one, I'm getting from 7am - 10pm with 45% left.
[Moto 360] Metah4 Genome:
This is a screen shot of my day.. it started off the charger at about 8:30am.

As you can see, my watch (the blue) outlasts my phone lol!
[Moto 360] kloan:
I'm getting better battery life now that I've stopped using Facer. I'm using a face I bought in the play store and I'm getting much better use out of it. I noticed I immediately got better battery life after a reboot as well.
[Moto 360] Altimas:
New 360 user here and I can confirm, with light use and not much movement I'm losing about 10% every 4 hours!!! So this can easily get me through 2 work days. Loving it.

I don't plan on installing any 3rd party apps until these battery issues are resolved.
[Moto 360] volcalstone:
I'm not sure if this was brought up here but how many of you guys listen to music while wearing your 360? It seem like it will drain your battery a lot faster because it's getting a constant notification on your watch. This is what I observed for the past few days when I had horrible batt life around 8-10% an hour.

I have an M8 and use my built in radio app for around 3 hrs a day and every time I do, I noticed that my batt goes down like crazy. So to me it seem like it depends on what your doing your phone as well that will drain your 360 faster.

I'm thinking about going stock for a few days and see how it is. No facer or any 3rd party apps other then the ones that are already on my phone that happens to be a wear app as well like Trigger.
[Moto 360] subhani:
I'm finally getting much better improved stats for my 360. Still not where I need it to be but much more tolerable. I took the watch off the hook at 4am and was up at that time. Went to bed again at around 8pm when it died so it is manageable. I had countless notifications all day, responded to many messages via voice, made a couple of voice commands like call and general info like Google queries, ambient off this time and brightness on auto. Stock Moto watch face.

I need for it to go to the 2%/hour mark for it to give me more confidence.
[Moto 360] ChrisNee1988:
My daily battery life is fine but when I went on a 2 hour walk, I used up about 50% making me unsure if it would last for the rest of the day.
[Moto 360] distortedloop:
I'm getting about 4% power hour the last several days, even when streaming notification from Play Music or other apps.

Not sure what changed, but I can live with that, in theory that will get me 25 hours, which is more than enough for most situations.

The only thing I've done different is reboot the watch daily. Could that really be all it takes? Shouldn't have to do that, though.

Given that others are suddenly reporting improvements, seems like Google or Motorola must have pushed some kind of fix.

Sent from my VS985 4G
[Moto 360] subhani:
That's the best I had, 24 hours and still 13% remaining. At just under 4% drain per hour. That's a lot better than before. Gosh I was getting 10% an hour! Then 7% so it is getting better day on day.

Sent from Z3 using Tapatalk.
[Moto 360] alhadee12:
I get about two days out of my watch, but the watch drains my phone battery.
[Moto 360] subhani:
Exactly... I'm really in two minds about my Moto 360
[Moto 360] alhadee12:
Explain please.
[Moto 360] subhani:
Like you said, I found tethering my moto 360 with my phone drains my phone battery quite rapidly. It is the biggest drain after screen on time. So for e.g SOT would be roughly 53% drain and then Android Wear would drain 26%. I don't find the usefulness and the 'cool/glam factor' of my moto 360 offset my need for longer battery life on my phone, which is my primary device.
[Moto 360] alhadee12:
I definitely agree. I generally carry two phones, so I now connect it to my work phone.
[Moto 360] minamfm:
How are you guys getting these battery lives? I have almost no apps installed (but wear mini launcher) and it dies out after 12 hours with ambient off, light to moderate use. If I turn ambient on, I get 8 hours max. I have owned the watch for 4 days now and I'm starting to think it's a defective unit. Any advice?
[Moto 360] Techno79:
I've been using my Moto 360 for a week now. I've been using Pujie Black third party watch face (with ambient on) which I really really like. However, I'm losing around 5% an hour which is a lot more than I hoped. It'd just about get me through my working day. But just to make sure I don't get caught out, I've bought a cheap QI charger for work so I give it a quick charge boost in the middle of the day and then running out of power is not really an issue. Really hoping that the next iteration of the watch or Android Wear allows the battery to easily last a full 24 hours when using third party watch faces.
[Moto 360] subhani:
It will improve much more trust me. I panicked and arranged for a replacement but it has gotten much better now. Took a week of draining to 0% then charging while power off to 100% for a whole week and now all is well. Also, i stopped messing around on the watch, changing faces, etc etc. Some faces drain battery, esp the ones that have the smooth seconds hand. Stick to a stock moto black face until battery life improves and then start experimenting again. I don't even use ambient off. LOL. Always on baby. Shame my phone is seeing higher drain because of the watch.
[Moto 360] dersie:
Your Wear BatteryStats snapshot show a screen OFF most of time no ?
[Moto 360] distortedloop:
I'm tethered with the 360 to my Moto X for the last six hours.

Android Wear isn't even an entry in my battery stats. Sounds like something wrong with your installation.

Sent from my XT1254
[Moto 360] jco23:
Agreed. Just finished day 3 of using the watch, and impact on my moto X is nonexistent. Watch got down to about 60% today after 14+ hours. Ambient off, set to pascual black face. I do not have facer or any other 3rd party watch apps.
[Moto 360] senectus:
Its a Lithium Ion...

https://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/BjRshwKk3CMKCVxG.medium

draining it flat is going to damage the battery not "fix it"

http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries

Scroll down to "Over-discharging Lithium-ion"
[Moto 360] AndroidAndroid88:
Moto 360 battery damaged?

So I got my Moto 360 yesterday afternoon, when I got it out of the box it would not boot. It turned out that the battery was flat. It took a solid 5-10 mins on the charger to boot. Today was my first proper day with my 360, I took it off the dock at 100% it was down to 65% by about 11am and dead by 3:15. I was using it a fair ammount, changing watch faces etc. I only had about 5 notifcations throughout the day, auto brightness and always on set to off. My question is, is there something wrong with my 360.

Note** I live in australia and bought it off someone who had imported them so it could have been sitting around since day one if that helps.

Also I have Facr, and two other watch faces installed as well as a few apps and wear mini launcher. I'm running the latest update (or so it says)

Is my 360 defective, should it have been fully flat when I got it and how long did your battery last on your first day.

EDIT

I have reset the watch and uninstalled all the wear apps, doesn't seem any better. The files attached are since the reset (about an hour) Wear battery stats says it is draining at 23.84% an hour. I have been using the watch a little but not much since the reset.
[Moto 360] Puzzlegirl:
Mine was exactly the same when I got it but after 10 days, it lasts easily all day. My phone needs recharging during the day but the watch is fine. I have auto-brightness and ambient display plus a WatchMaker face with a gif (because I can) and I do tend to swap faces during the day so it doesn't have the same battery intense one all day, but it lasts from first thing in the morning until last thing at night adequately. I'm very happy with it [emoji4]
[Moto 360] AndroidAndroid88:
Do you think it was the battery "wear" in?

Thanks for the reply, Do you think it was the battery "wear" in or was it your usage that changed.

Excuse the terrible and intended pun there.
[Moto 360] Puzzlegirl:
[emoji23] Lol, probably a bit of both. I was actually surprised that the battery was so good after all I'd read and the disappointment of the first day or two. Your usage obviously changes though: for instance, quite frequently now, I only use it to tell the time!
[Moto 360] PaulParanoia:
A Week with Wear

I've had my 360 for a week now, running Facer and Bubble Cloud. So far the battery usage has been great. It's off the charger for ~16 hours a day and it uses less than 50% of the juice. Much better than I feared after all the bad reviews I read.

No significant impact on phone battery as far as I can tell (Galaxy S4).
[Moto 360] subhani:
I seem to fluctuate between under 5 and over 3 on average. Ambient on. 12hours or more. Tons of faces, mini wear launcher, browser, couple of compass apps (that don't work), mini maps and a few others I can't recall just now.

I'd say that is acceptable I suppose. I'm gonna try with ambient off next few days and see if this improves further.

Sent from Z3 using Tapatalk.
[Moto 360] ivan333:
Guys in facer I got Sync Frequency in 1 hour, DEFAULT

I've CHANGED to 24 hours, because that it doesn't affect anything between the phone and the watch. FACER is just to push Spheres right?
[Moto 360] damoso:
as you change the synchronization of heart rate ??
[Moto 360] gabessdsp:
Just got mine today, charged it to 86% percent before I had to start my day. It's been 3 hours and I've changed the face and messed around and it's down to 71%
[Moto 360] sky high:
Also just got mine today. I have watchmaker and another play store face but I haven't used them. I have auto brightness on and ambient off. Currently sitting at 75% after 2 hours. I had pretty heavy use in those two hours. playing music, changing faces, testing heart rate. Now it is saying 5.77% per hour
[Moto 360] lemonov:
Just an update on my battery life. It has gotten much better than it was before. When i first got the watch 3 weeks ago, it would usually consume about 11% an hour with almost no apps installed. Now it's down to 4.5% an hour and I have a bunch of apps installed. Lasts me all day easily. I'm happy :)
[Moto 360] Papichulo06:
Left for work at 10 am with full charge. It is 10:23 pm and it currently has 10% battery life.

I would consider myself a heavy user.
[Moto 360] juggamonkey:
Been a moto360 user for three days now first day was terrible at only 7 hours of heavy usage installing apps watchfaces etc..second day I got 9 hours of use from heavy use but mostly notifications and changing watchfaces ..now day 3 and I've been using it for 8 hours now moderate usage with 64% left I didn't believe people when they said it would get better over a few days but I was wrong
[Moto 360] jhax01:
First day was terrible for me but yesterday I took it off the charger at 7am and flogged it until 1am with 17% left. I charge my phone once a day anyway so it's good enough for me.
[Moto 360] pakure:
The battery consumption on my moto 360 is on average like this (ambient off, brightness_1)

Airplane mode, watch not on your wrist. ..~1% per hr

Air plane mode, watch on your wrist (works only to tell time)...~2% per hr

Stock moto watch face, regular use. ...~3.5% per hr

Facer watch face and regular use... ~4% per hr
[Moto 360] Carnim:
With the last version, the duration of battery have improvement. This baterry hard 2 days?
[Moto 360] RunNgun42:
3 days with my new moto 360 and it has been performing the same since day 1. Leads me to believe maybe moto is breaking these things in ahead of time? Or perhaps refined the battery manufacturing process somehow.

Pick watch up at 8am

Put watch on charger at 2am (6% life remaining)

Sync'd with gmail/exchange/SMS

Probably about 50 emails per day, 10 SMS, plus oogling and staring at pretty watch face

Ambient mode ON

Auto brightness enabled

So I'm getting about 18 hours use with pretty moderate to heavy usage. I'm satisfied.
[Moto 360] jayr04:
wrong thread
[Moto 360] The_New_Guy1:
Help!!!
[Moto 360] subhani:
I get the feeling you're just using it like a smartphone, tinkering with it like I did. Initially this is fine...

1. You will soon settle on just reading the time and the odd notification to reply to. So less drain because less use by you.

2. Uninstall SOME of the gunk faces and apps and I don't mean everything. Just stuff you know you will know you'll never use or apps that are really redundant on something so small. I still have things like mini browser for emergencies, mini dialer and launcher etc.

3. Decide on a couple of battery efficient faces. This is the clincher for battery. If you don't wanna go for days testing your battery with an assortment of different faces, then just stick with the black stock face from moto for now and see below. Once battery settles, start experimenting with faces again.

4. The main thing that will help it improve is that you follow good charging practise, let it drain, turn it off before 5% and set it on charge with Bluetooth off. Do not interrupt until 100% is achieved. It will take days before the battery normalises. Took me just under a full week!

5. Some people have done better, but you should still average an hourly drain of between 3% and 5% max. This will give you a good twelve hour day and then some.

Lastly, I know a lot of people including Motorola say that turning ambient display on drains battery. I found it to be too negligible to matter for my use case scenarios. So I have it turned on, makes the device wake up more responsively (with it off, it can show some delay). But I NORMALLY choose a black face for battery savings although white ones were okay too.

Sent using a Z3 via Tapatalk. Hit THANKS if I helped, cheers!
[Moto 360] The_New_Guy1:
Thank you for the response. Unfortunately, I'm not new to owning the 360. I believe i have been through two updates. Originally i got ok battery life, like half a day. Then the big update happened and i got great battery life, around 2 days or so. Then about a week or so ago the battery life just took a nose dive, hence the picture.

I'm not a heavy user but i do get notifications on my watch such as text, updates etc. I have been getting the same amount from the beginning on average.

I have a few apps but don't use them much. Nothing that should warrent this.
[Moto 360] subhani:
Ah I see. I assumed from seeing your name tag that you were new to the moto. My bad. I'm scratching my head now. I don't know what could cause a 17% drain o'er hour. That IS really high.

Sent using a Z3 via Tapatalk. Hit THANKS if I helped, cheers!
[Moto 360] ottodroid:
Hi guys!

I am having some problems with battery life, but i'd like to know your opinion...

When the moto is not connected to the phone it last even 1 and a half day but.. And i say BUT when connected it last maximum 3 hours without even looking at it!

I am so pissed off, i can't understand why..

And just to let you know i have use simple moto watch face with auto brightness off.
[Moto 360] kloan:
Looks like my battery life has taken a dive again.

It's been barely 3 hours and I'm already down to 75%. I just switched to the new Moto X, not sure if it's co-incidence or not.
[Moto 360] SavingSista:
indeed

I totally agree. Why make it unnecessarily large when it can easily be charged more frequently.
[Moto 360] distortedloop:
I just checked my watch and much to my surprise after seven hours in already under 50%. This is significantly higher drain than I've seen in a couple of weeks.

Sent from my XT1254
[Moto 360] jco23:
I've got moto x, but get great battery life.

I have ambient off, but everything else enabled. By the way, I don't have any apps aside from moto connect and android wear.
[Moto 360] rodrigo_santastico:
Yesterday was my first day with moto 360... I had to charger twice during the day... the battery down by 17% per hr...

So, I followed some recommended steps for you and today looks better.. 4,91% per hr.

But, I have a doubt....What's the "update" on the image attachment? Because during this update time, the watch reboot automatically without my action. I saw that was a update because of Wear Battery Stats. It wasn't the update 4.4w2 because i already applied this update yesterday morning.

*Sorry for my bad english. I'm brazilian...

Thank you!
[Moto 360] Techno79:
I noticed that if I was using my phone in the car for Google Navigation and it was bringing up turn notifications on the watch. This seemed to massively impact battery life. I just silent notifications on the watch when I'm driving with nav on.
[Moto 360] JanNegron:
Is this normal when you buy it? I get it yesterday and this drive me crazy.

Oh and he do a reboot alone. I never touch him and when I feel the vibration I'm like "the hell????"
[Moto 360] Chris_c81:
Nope. I can get two days out of mine.
[Moto 360] Chaturanga79:
Testing battery in different conditions

I will test my Moto 360 battery condition with below cases, in all cases I will not play with any of apps (Heart Rate and others) and will touch the screen when only I need to do. Most of time I will use it as just a clock to learn time by holding arm up.

CASES TO TEST:

1- Using with notifications OFF and with a black color theme, most of time screen is on screen off mode or dimmed mode. (I have already started this test yesterday on 27th November at 6:00 pm and now it's 28th November 10:40 pm (So it's over 28 hours) still I have 28 % charge on Moto 360, this seems excellent)

2- Using with notifications OFF and with a white color theme, most of time screen is on dimmed mode

3- Using with notifications ON and with a black color theme, most of time screen is on dimmed mode.

4- Using with notifications ON and with a white color theme, most of time screen is on dimmed mode

I will share all results when I am done.

Cheers.
[Moto 360] Erik1805:
This is mine at the moment. I have the watch for 3 days now.
[Moto 360] svtfmook:
second day with the watch, took it off the cradle at 7am, was out and about all day, sent some texts with it, 8pm it was at 7%. 13 hours of use is good enough for me.
[Moto 360] pakure:
Wait for a week... It gets a lot better
[Moto 360] qwahchees:
Does it really? I just got mine yesterday and was doing 8% per hr, which hurt. Was wanting 18ish
[Moto 360] Max_Pain:
I've had mine for two months and it hasn't gotten better. I never get more than one day of use. But that's OK. Unlike others I have no problem charging all my devices at night.
[Moto 360] JanNegron:
From 5am to 12am. Happy with this watch!