yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto 360] KryptosXLayer2:
You can buy watch faces directly from Google Play or other app markets, making it an app

How can I turn OFF the Music app from the watch? I've blocked notifications for Google Play Music, but when I get in my car, Music comes on and drains the hell out of the battery, sometimes as much as 20% per hour! I'm sick of charging my watch 2-3 times per day depending on how much I want to use it, so I now have no notifications for Maps to prevent driving directions from appearing on the watch, nothing from Connect or Fit, and a few others that popped up on the list of Android Wear connected apps, making this just a source for me to quickly check email and texts, or not much better than what a nicer automatic watch of mine and my phone could do on it's own..... When looking at the battery stats graph, it always plummets in battery during the times I am driving, going from an nice steady decrease to an all out cliff dive because of running Music, but that doesn't even show up on the list!

I have, like most of you, Bluetooth at the top, then Screen (which some of you have interchanging between the top two), then Android System and Android Wear. Usually AW was at the top, but for a while now, Bluetooth has been at the top. Someone suggested to me to put the watch in airplane mode while in the car? Yeah, for that, I'd get rid of the watch all together, I'm not interested in having a light up watch that tells me the time on my wrist and nothing else, which is basically what I've turned this thing into, more or less....

Google needs to hurry up with the update for this crap before I get rid of this stupid thing!
[Moto 360] KryptosXLayer2:
My apologies for your extensive knowledge of all things on the Google Play store. A quick search on XDA came up with this which could be it as well:

http://xdaforums.com/android-wear/development/app-mickey-mouse-watchface-t2908854

But then again, I don't have such vast knowledge of what an app looks like or where to find it if this wasn't it either.... Sorry again.
[Moto 360] thevaristy:
No need for an apology. Thank you for the actual helpful information instead of only snark.
[Moto 360] chaco81:
what this guy said!

are u guys from freezing apps on phone using TB?
[Moto 360] :
Is there any battery problem with my phone? Should I change it?

(After some time)

Need help!

Ty:)
[Moto 360] hdtechk:
Secret to long battery life. Only use stock watch faces
[Moto 360] Cj719:
I have all features turned on, including heart apps and Google fit, and yes the mickey watch face app
[Moto 360] Powell730:
But they're so boring ?
[Moto 360] JanNegron:
Ahahahahaha oh men.
[Moto 360] borijess:
I use watchmaker and get great battery life.
[Moto 360] DanielWEWO:
This isn't the first time this has happened. I'll get 1/4 of the way through the day and look down at my watch, and it's dead. Do I have a lemon? I'm using a stock watch face, and I disable notifications from apps that tend to give me a lot of them.

Any guidance guys?
[Moto 360] :
Hey...anyone mind me?
[Moto 360] o1d8oy:
[MENTION=6341958]NihAl HarvarD[/MENTION] I'm not an expert but as you can see on other battery stats with normal use usually you have "watch idle" somewhere on top. So my guess is that you have some app that is causing this issue. Easiest to check is if this is fault of watch it self is to set in in flight mode for day or two. If battery life improves you know that it is not the watch.

Have to ask though... did you try reinstalling android wear app and reseting the watch?
[Moto 360] dlotters:
It seems weird that your Bluetooth usage would be so high. I had that a couple of times and each time I did the watch battery would drain super fast.

I never quite worked out what caused it as a phone and watch reset seemed to fix it and I've not seen the problem in months.

These days I'm getting great battery life. I use the watch quite a lot and am using the 500px watchface but all is good. Battery life lasts well beyond 24 hours, closer to 36 hours which is good enough for me.

Sent from my Galaxy S6 Edge
[Moto 360] slaydog:
What I do to get great battery life is -

I keep the watch on theater mode, then use "Light Flow" from the Play store to push notification vibrations to the watch. Notifications are very customizable as well, you can have it vibrate in any pattern - long, short or a combo on a per app basis. So, not only can I tell that I got an sms instead of an email, I can even have it vibrate with a different pattern if it's from my wife vs a coworker etc...

Then I have plenty of battery left to be able to keep the screen on for a while to use one of the built-in keyboards from "Wear Messenger" to type out a text ?

I would love to have a watch face "Always on", but it's just not going to happen with this watch, so may as well keep it off most of the time and not have to worry about battery life...

Oh yeah, I almost forgot...

I set the important notifications to repeat the vibration every minute until I dismiss them on the watch- so I never miss one ?
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
So... You have a beeper attached to your wrist?I'm sorry but I don't see the problem of having to charge it every day, during night time. Like our phones. Having a black screen on my wrist is a no go for me.
[Moto 360] jmchnaway:
Are you receiving notification vibrations while in theater mode, and if so, is this only with Light flow? I was under the impression that theater mode prevented all screen wakes, vibrations, and screen taps.
[Moto 360] KryptosXLayer2:
My watch was dead by 2PM today, took it off the charger at 9AM. Five hours and slap dead after two and a half hours of driving because the battery was using 12% Bluetooth. Screen was 7% and some unlisted app was 7% as well too, it just shows the green Android blank app logo, no name listed.

Does ANYONE know how to turn off Google Play Music? I have a bad feeling that's what's killing the battery on the road, and if I can kill that and see if that's what the problem is, then I know what I'm dealing with here.... thanks in advance!
[Moto 360] zAlbee:
What phone and Android version do you have? Try restarting your phone. Such high Bluetooth usage is not normal. A couple times when I've noticed that my watch was draining faster than usual, e.g. >5%/hr instead of 2-3%, restarting my phone fixed it up. I've also tried restarting my watch with no effect.

I get great battery life (30-36 hours) with ambient mode on, tilt off at all times. At night, I lay the watch on its side, on a night table, but I don't charge it. This way, the screen stays off and it sips battery, less than 1.5%/hour (see attached graph between 12am and 5am). It seems to automatically go into an extra deep sleep mode if you don't move it for a couple hours, because when I pick it up in the morning, I need to hit the side button to wake it up. After that, it stays on, responding to tilt and touch as expected.

I actually suggest not charging it while you sleep for 8 hours. It gets warm on the charger and heat is bad for the longevity of lithium ion batteries. So is overcharging or overdraining it. I try to take it off the charger as soon as it's full - takes about 45 mins.

Sent from my XT1053 Moto X Dev Edition running Kit Kat 4.4.4
[Moto 360] zAlbee:
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[Moto 360] monkor:
Don't have pictures, but I am very surprised by the battery life. I left my house at 8, got back at 620 and still had 65% remaining. This is after I streamed music, had every notification on my phone going and used it liberally.

Maybe my expectations were off because everyone said it stinks. But I couldn't be happier with the battery life. Unless of course it lasted as long as a Kindle or something.
[Moto 360] DanielWEWO:
I've got a Droid Turbo with 4.4.4. I reset the watch, and repaired it with my phone after resetting everything. My battery life today was better. I'll see if it happens again. I'll also try your recommendation of leaving it off the charger over night.
[Moto 360] slaydog:
I do charge it every night, I just never have to worry about it running out of batteries during the day, as I use it a lot. If I had it on ambient mode it would crap out much of the time unfortunately. I wear a dress shirt for work and find that my sleeve covers it most of the time, so all that anyone but me sees of it is the silver band and body which still looks cool enough...

It receives notifications in theater mode only with Light Flow, it even vibrates while charging on the cradle. It's a big fault of this watch that it doesn't shut everything down when its in theater mode. The touch screen is even still active. Don't believe me? Put it in theater mode and hold your finger on the surface of the watch while the screen is off. It will still vibrate and attempt to change the watch face...
[Moto 360] jmchnaway:
Thanks, sounds like Light Flow isn't quite what I'm looking for (only vibrations while in theater mode), since it enables the touchscreen. Theater Mode currently disables all notifications and touchscreen inputs for me.
[Moto 360] slaydog:
It will make your watch vibrate in any mode, and if nothing else it's nice to be able to set up vibrations that are more noticeable than the little stock ones that are so easy to miss- and of course have them repeat...
[Moto 360] Taleto93:
Hi to everyone, yesterday I bought this beautiful watch, but the battery makes me sad. :mad:

Screenshot here--> ww.selenavolleyudine.it/Screenshot.png

Today I used it as a normal watch. Is the battery life (as you can see from the screenshot) normal? Or I had to change the watch cause of factory error?

Thanks for your answers.

Have a good one
[Moto 360] o1d8oy:
Taleto93 looks normal to me. But give it few days. Your screen time usage is high so probably that's why battery died so fast. Turn off tilt to wake etc and you should easily make it through the day.
[Moto 360] Taleto93:
Thank you, I'll turn it off. I just read that the battery wants 2-3 charging cycles to stabilize.

I'll update you :)
[Moto 360] Powell730:
I turned off tilt to wake and ambient mode and till burned through 50% of the battery in an 8 hour shift... not sure why. I get a lot if notifications but wouldn't think it would use that much.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Have you guys seen Droid Life video feature tour of the LG Urbane using Android Wear firmware 5.1.1? http://www.droid-life.com/2015/05/04/video-android-wear-5-1-1-tour-on-the-watch-urbane/

Man, that thing flyes, much smoother than our Moto 360! But I guess it's more the snapdragon CPU than the firmware... :(
[Moto 360] GoldPunch:
How can I turn off tap to wake on screen?

I just want to turn on display when I tilt or press the button. Not tap to display.
[Moto 360] monkor:
I'm getting some pretty absurd battery life out of this thing (60% by the end of the day almost always). It's like we have different watches. Just goes to show you usage cases vary wildly.

For me this thing is just a fun toy that is extremely useful. I don't use it a ton but it keeps my phone in my pocket more and allows me to change songs on my motorcycle with relative ease. That's invaluable to me and ultimately safer.

The weather on my wrist, and notifications to keep me constantly in the loop. I'm very glad to have it, and the great battery life for my use case
[Moto 360] yiyi28:
It highly depends on how you use it. It has a small battery but definitely enough if you use it as a 'Watch'.

Here is the thing. If you keep playing it like your phone and try different stuff(run programs), the battery is drained in like half an hour or one hour.

But if you just use it as a watch and check notifications(also do some replies), it can last longer than a day.

I took it off from dock at 9 in the morning, now it's 1 pm but still I have 80% battery. I do a lot of whatsapp reply on that and also check all notifications on my watch.
[Moto 360] worldwidepmp:
I was a little leery getting this watch after having a Pebble, but I'm getting excellent battery life, for me anyway.
[Moto 360] eldar4uk:
I've used motoactv for few months and not impressed, battery life on moto 360 is really great

[IMG="battery life screenshot"]http://picimage.net/images/14313352865712.jpg[/IMG]
[Moto 360] bruciebabie1963:
How to view

How do you view your watch battery stats..all I have is for my phone
[Moto 360] KryptosXLayer2:
All the pictures you've seen in this thread came from the phone........
[Moto 360] bruciebabie1963:
yes I Know

Under setting then battery I only see phone battery..where to find this in settings please,
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
In the Android wear app, click on the settings button on the top right, then click on "Moto 360"
[Moto 360] KryptosXLayer2:
Right, didn't know you were looking at the phone battery stats, I thought you meant you were already in the Android Wear app - this is how you get to it though
[Moto 360] lewy255:
Not sure if this exists but one could make a magnetic coil pad that sits under the watch on your wrist with a small wire going to a strap on small recharable battery. That way you could just charge that battery once every now and then and if you need to use it in an emergency to charge the 360 it would just go straight on your arm under your shirt. Also if you hate taking watch on and off to charge while sleeping it would help here aswell
[Moto 360] Okazar:
I've been getting some solid numbers with airplane mode on . ambient off but tilt on. Into the third day....
[Moto 360] lasha117:
i have bought this watch and from 100% battery in 2 hour it gets on 60% i have reseted it deleted all installed apps but still i get battery frain. how can i fix this problem
[Moto 360] Nomad1600:
After a few days and battery cycles the Moto360 battery life improves.
[Moto 360] lasha117:
thanks for reply i hope it will be improved :)

were can i get premium faces for free
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
Facerepo.com. You only have to buy watchmaker pro
[Moto 360] lasha117:
thanks :) i have bought it :)
[Moto 360] nique0201:
How to turn off the tilt option I can't find it anywhere
[Moto 360] xZabuza:
Android wear app on your phone > Settings > click on your Moto 360 "Connect" > And there u'll find the option..
[Moto 360] Okazar:
I just tried a whole day with ambient on and tilt on. Getting some insane numbers still.... Going to go balls deep and turn off airplane tomorrow. :X
[Moto 360] negriton:
AirPlane mode is useless... I dont have a smartwatch to see the time...
[Moto 360] Okazar:
You'd be surprised the number of people who don't want to use this watch as a smart watch, and like it for its style and swappable faces. Don't judge
[Moto 360] earthtk:
Heh me too actually. Could last me 16-18hours using watchmaker

That's quite a weird statement. If people who don't buy smartwatch for that, maybe should get the miband or a smartband instead? Doesn't have a face and maybe limited style?
[Moto 360] mohcho:
I've had my 360 for a week now and have been struggling with battery life. It's running 5.0.2 paired to a Nexus 6 running 5.1.1 . Ambient mode off, tilt on, notifications on. I notice the battery drain the most in the mornings on my commute into work. I started to use Watchmaker pro to get some sweet watch faces, but I've had a few battery cycles and the battery life hasn't improved as some have said.

In the last couple of days, I've reset the device, removed Android wear and have set it up again from scratch and it's still running poorly. It drops like 10% charge in less than an hour without any apps or custom watch faces running.

RIght now it's 9AM EST and I took it off the charger at 7am and it already is down to 77% and I have put it back onto my qi charger. If this doesn't get any better, I'm going to return it.
[Moto 360] phyba:
I was in the same boat as u running the same setup. I disabled google fit, and turned off tilt to turn on and my watch has went from abysmal life to pretty good. Its at 93% and its been off the charger for 3 hours. In that time I've replied to 5 text, gotten notifications for 4 emails. Normally at the end of the day around 9 when I put it back on the charger, its hovering around 40-50%
[Moto 360] kxhaz:
Do you have Google Fit installed? If so go in to the app on your phone and under setting in the bottom part make sure you have High Accuracy Mode disabled. This is basically trying to run GPS on your watch anytime that you are moving.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
there is no room for error in a battery this small. it is entirely possibly you have a 'less than ideal' battery that doesnt hold a normal charge. i would exchange the watch for a replacement.

Attached my battery stats screenshot. Ambient screen off EVERYTHING else on. (Ambient is only for people who are unmitigated showoffs/insufferable anyway I can't see it when I'm not looking at it)
[Moto 360] mohcho:
I've disabled Google Fit on the 360 and have turned off the high accuracy on the Fit app on my phone. When I did all of this, the watch was at 82% (9:30am) and now at 11:40am, it's already down to 74%.

I will give it a full day to see if this helps better, but if not, then I will look for an exchange.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
do you use ambient screen. do you use wear internet browser. do you sit on the watch all day doing stuff better suited to the full functioned phone? these are valid and important questions, because you really arent meant to do any of the above with the watch. i guess you could argue for ambient screen but i made my feelings on that clear above.
[Moto 360] mohcho:
If you read my original post about this, I have ambient off, tilt on. I'm only using it for notifications, that's it. I don't do anything else with it at all.

Since my last reply, it's already dropped to 71% and I've only received a couple of email notifications. I realize that is ONLY a notification device, not a full blown replacement for my phone, but I still think there are some serious issues with at least my device that it drains so quickly.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
yeah, something is wrong with that watch. look at the screenshot of my battery life with the same settings as you, as far as i can tell. seek a replacement.

edit; ive went from 40% to 37% since posting the screenshot
[Moto 360] mohcho:
I took a screenshot of the battery life on my watch and noticed something compared to yours.

My watch isn't going into idle like yours did at 43%. I literally don't touch it unless there's a notification and it comes on because I'm moving my arm.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
something has you wakelocked, cant tell what from that screen. wearbatterystats i think is the name of a more detailed battery app that should show wakelocks iirc. i havent used it in a while because the only time i get poor battery life is when im trying to use sleep tracking by sleepasandroid.
[Moto 360] mohcho:
I just installed it. Right now my battery is at 61%.
[Moto 360] Ad1982:
There's also "Wear Custom Vibration" in the Play Store and under "Other Settings" you can put a check in the "Ignore Silent Mode" box. For me at least it sends notifications while in theatre mode.
[Moto 360] Okazar:
Why is it not possible for myself, and others, to have a watch with a full face in which we are able to swap faces for different styles and be happy? You'd hold it against a person who would want to buy a GTR and not take it to the track? I don't understand. A product appeals to each individual in a different way.
[Moto 360] jco23:
Sometimes the issue could be with your phones Bluetooth connection.
[Moto 360] earthtk:
Did you do any syncing on the Android wear app? I find that feature drain a lot of battery.

If you play around with your phone like constantly changing watch faces and all that drain too. I'm mainly using it for notification (no games or application use) with ambient mode and tilt on. I get about 16-18 hours with watch maker. I'm not sure why but when I off ambient the battery difference is only about 2-4 hours.. Had to use ambient mode as doing work in lab doesn't really allows me to use my chemical soaked gloves to touch my watch. And tilt doesn't always work at some angles.

So... Maybe it comes down to how we wear our watches lol(i.e checking frequency) I just sold my watch I got from Amazon warehouse. Waiting for a new one to arrive . I have attached the battery profile from my old watch with the above settings. I will do again with same configuration and post my battery results when my new moto arrives.
[Moto 360] mohcho:
Nothing other than notifications from my phone. I purposely didn't look at it, or change anything today to preserve battery. I installed wearbatterystats and took a screenshot below. 4.17% per hour doesn't seem right.

I took it off at 6pm today and it kept on going down until I put it on the charger just under an hour ago and it was down to 29%. I didn't touch it all evening. The red in the bar shows as on, but I have no idea what's going on with it, as it was sitting on the table all night and wasn't touched. There is also no app activity either, so I don't know what's going on.
[Moto 360] earthtk:
Hmm 4.17% per hour is okay I think? Should be able to last more than 24 hour.
[Moto 360] mohcho:
It seems to be faring much better today. I charged it up last night (1:45am) and left off the charger and now (10:56am) it's at 82% discharging at 2.03% per hour. Received a few email notifications and a call notification this morning and that was it. Will see how it fares the rest of the day.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
2-4% per hour is pretty normal. I'll install the app again and compare, but I think you're expecting too much.
[Moto 360] mohcho:
I am very surprised today. It's been off the charger since 1:30am last night and I've used it normally today - ambient off, tilt on, stock face and it's at 56% right now. Took a screenshot of the battery usage. I'd be very happy if the battery drain continues like this.
[Moto 360] fwayfarer:
Battery life is one of the things I never had much issue with. Idk
[Moto 360] kwaazaar:
Tip: enable theater mode when working with a screwdriver. All that twisting keeps turning the screen on.

By the way: I have ambient mode enabled and auto-on on wrist turn (don't know the english word) turned off. That way the screen DOES switch on when you turn your wrist, but just in low power/ambient mode.
[Moto 360] Exel:
Just picked this up yesterday at Best Buy for $100.

I like it so far, haven't really used it much but have noticed battery life is lacking.

Haven't done a full ay test, might do it today.
[Moto 360] Badelhas:
It takes a few days for the battery to settle in
[Moto 360] Nomad1600:
Wow... $100 new? That's $50 the last sale price.
[Moto 360] VandyCWG:
New 5.1.1 update is new, but in 4 hour, I only had a 19% drain.... I'm happy with that.
[Moto 360] negriton:
Lets test it... I have it with ambient mode on but without tilt mode on and without wifi... So, same than before... Lets see how battery works
[Moto 360] ryj01:
How you get it for that price? Budget is in the 100 range
[Moto 360] spencer311:
It gets better. First few days are the worst
[Moto 360] zAlbee:
WiFi use on 5.1.1 kills battery life. The day before I updated, I accidentally left my watch in my wife's car for a whole night+day (so it was disconnected from my phone) and it hardly drained at all. In total it went 40 hours (including 8 hours where I was wearing it) and had 20% left. This is exceptional (2%/hour) ... My average battery life is 30-36 hours (ambient ON, tilt to wake OFF, auto brightness ON).

After the update, I'm getting similar numbers EXCEPT when WiFi is on. My phone's battery isn't very good so I put my phone in airplane mode while sleeping, underground, etc. Battery for my watch dropped like a rock last night. Used 66% in 10 hours ?. WiFi was at the top of the list. I'm turning off Cloud Sync for now...

Sent from my XT1053 Moto X Dev Edition running Kit Kat 4.4.4
[Moto 360] vensterbank:
how do you guys get 2% per hour while my watch even when idle does about 14%. did reset of the watch with the new update. and did a complete drain to 0% back to a 100%. still stuck at 12 to 14%.

you guys have any tips or tricks that may help.

im using the Skymaster Watchface
[Moto 360] kwaazaar:
Try a standard watch face and keep it in theater mode for half a day. Should use somewhere between 2 and 4 %. Then step by step enable other features.