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[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Art in KitKat brings no discernable speed difference to dalvik. Same for battery life. IMO lollipop in general brought the improvements. Art in kk is experimental while art in lollipop is final and much more mature.

Actually one of my favorite things about lollipop is the notifications and phone calls. Basically when I am surfing or otherwise using the phones an incoming phone call Wont take up the whole screen and I see the incoming call akin to a notification until answered or 30seconds
[One (M8) General] hamud.q:
Lollipop on HTC One M7:

http://youtu.be/1K0BTONhC1k
[One (M8) General] Silver.Shadow:
[MENTION=4860093]SoLdieR9312[/MENTION] Are the incoming phone calls implemented in Sense the way it's described here? That would be amazing. Otherwise, a disappointment.
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
No sorry, looks like HTC decided to open the incoming call screen to the top if there is a call..
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Oh that is disappointing
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
I think it's okay, because Sense is not GPE.. if you really want that feature you can always use GPE.

I personally like the style of Sense, thats the reason why i don't use GPE. HTC really added some good

features, and the important think, that HTC added from GPE is the Lockscreen stuff, the HeadsUp Notifications

and the Recent Apps screen.
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
I do use gpe....
[One (M8) General] mushages:
sense is a mixed b**** there is this feature which i didnt find in any other phone even iphones. when you record a video and there is an incoming call it will pop as a notification in the middle of the screen and the video will still record until you answer the call. No pause No end recording :good:. while in IOS it will stop recording when there is a call. stupid move from apple! they implemented time lapse in their camera without this feature. now if you want to record a full time lapse you have to switch on airplane mode.
[One (M8) General] sl0519:
From several leaked videos, app opening and closing animation doesn't seem to carry over to sense

or is there settings to enable those animations?

samsung has it, it would be a shame if HTC threw away all those beautiful animations
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
It looks like they did in fact threw away the Lollipop animations, that's why I say it's a disappointing.
[One (M8) General] seadersn:
from what i know of my three days in total usage of sense over five or six htc devices htc ever had its own animations [emoji57] so no surprise or nothing to be disappointed about [emoji23]
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
I don't agree. Google didn't have them also and now they do. Htc dosent have something... Until they do
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Thank you for the info. I was hoping they did because that would have ended my debate between sense or GPE but I guess it's still on!
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
Maybe we can remove the Sense Dialer and activate the GPE Dialer instead?

I will not test, because i like the Sense Dialer like it is, so you'll have to wait for the OTA

and try to change them =)
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
It's not horrible, just a preference. I like how google tries to find info on the incoming call and show you the contact or the street view.

I'm definitely looking forward to seeing an OTA, leak or a ROM to see what it looks like.

Thanks for all the screenshots again!
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
Hey Mate, good news... Have a look.
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
The pic is broken
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
Added a new one
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
Thought it was an official ota
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Ohhhhhh! I like that!

You'll have to tell me how to do that if you can :)
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
I only pushed GPE 5.0.1 GoogleDialer and GoogleContacts to the phone, and done :P

It sill uses Sense Calling Screen.. but i think that can we fix too..

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Mate, i won't share the ota as a attachment on xda.. i will post it on my thread when it's out.
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
Well I guess that's this week then
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Sweet! I smell a great aroma (pun intended) installer option here "Sense or GPE Dialer".

Man I wasn't too thrilled about the update when the first screenshots came out but I am now!
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
I hope so! HTC did a good job again :P
[One (M8) General] bentez2003:
I've been away from the forum for a while due to family troubles but I have an M8 running 4.4.2 Sense, baseband 1.15.771.5 build number 1.54.771.5 bootloader unlocked, also s-off..

I'd really like to try me some lollipop, I know sense L isnt out but is GPE / AOSP L released and stable? Can i just backup and flash something or do i need to update my firmware?

Sry if this is the wrong place to ask.. this place keeps on getting bigger!
[One (M8) General] hamud.q:
Can we pin an application within recent app ? And the colorful chrome tabs will be available for sense or just for gpe ?
[One (M8) General] SoLdieR9312:
The option to pin is in gpe layout.. and chrome tabs only in gpe layout
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Can try a conversion seeing as you're S-OFF.

[RUU] M8 Google Edition Conversion. 5.0.1 - RUU Zip Non-Rooted & Pre-Rooted

It's easy enough to convert over to GPE and convert back to Sense so...

Else you can try something like Skydragon ROM: [DEC12][ROM][KERNEL] SkyDragon | GPE - Lollipop 5.0.1 Official | v4.2.1 | 3.11.1700.2

You might need updated Firmware for that.
[One (M8) General] bentez2003:
thank you for the advice, im gonna try the conversion
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Good luck, enjoy! :good:

By the way, here's the thread to return to sense if/when you want.

Going back to Sense from [RUU] Google Edition Conversion.Graffixync UPDATE 12th May

Forgot to add it in my previous post. :silly:
[One (M8) General] smoki3:
Why AGAIN? GPE stock is horrible !
[One (M8) General] Silver.Shadow:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUYHBNDTF68&feature=youtu.be

A random video showing Sprint M8 running Lollipop!
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
If that's true then HTC hasn't updated their site for quite some time. Their site still shows Sprint as being in Phase 2 - Integration stage. :eek:
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
This is not good

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He said it was pushed a few days ago what is going on
[One (M8) General] knudsen81:
Nobody had write about a Ota so don't think it's out
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Oh well, seems they Sprint faster than the rest. :silly:
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
He said it was pushed out a few days ago meaning updated
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
Cannot see anything on Sprint forum regarding ota release
[One (M8) General] knudsen81:
No one on Sprint m8 xda forum has got it
[One (M8) General] seadersn:
tester who needs attention...
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
Or attention, lollisense testers needed? ;):p
[One (M8) General] seadersn:
didn't read his/her/its post [emoji18]
[One (M8) General] Rotten Ross:
"video removed by the user"

Hmmm, I sense shenanigans.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
I'm sorry if this is a bit off topic, but I can't understand what's all this "keeping the leak safe and secure" is all about.

While I do understand that leaking something like the "Sense 7" before the release of HTC Hima "might" damage the sales of the new device, I cannot seem to understand what harm the leak of lollipop can do to the company (only a few days before the actual release)

The reason I am curious about this is because I can see a lot of people having the lollipop update, but they are all keeping it secure, which is not something that I have seen on XDA before. But I know that there should be a pretty good reason for this.

I'm sorry guys. I am indeed excited about the update. If there is anyone who is NOT excited about this update (one of the biggest iterations of android in years), he probably doesn't belong to XDA.
[One (M8) General] luxandroid:
If they don't mean to share what they have than better to shut your mouth about it and enjoy and not to tease all over the xda, but hey its just me saying
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Maybe it's a hypocritical trust issue? If someone on here that got the leak shares it with others then the one that leaked it might not consider him trustworthy anymore, which would be ironic seeing as the one that leaked it also broke the trust of the company from which he leaked the leak in the first place.

:eek:

Where as if the company gave them the release before hand to test it then it might be an entirely different story all together as a breach of that "trust" might result in them not being given early test releases or even models at a later stage.

Who knows...? :rolleyes:
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Indeed its a mystery :D thanks for your response though.
[One (M8) General] Mr Hofs:
I fully understand your question but i know for a fact that certain people can get fired if the actual file(s) get out to the masses. Leaking shots and textual info is pretty harmless but the actual files are indeed shared on a trust basis and therefore protected.

I see it this way :

Don't blame the people that share info but not the file, thank them for doing so and let you as the user of the new ota to create a certain image of the new build.

I know it's difficult to keep the patience and how easy it is to say "why don't you just share" but i also know the other side of the story.

Cheers.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
I certainly agree with you. This lead me into thinking that HTC is being more cautious and they are putting more pressure on those who have access to early leaks.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
But can they trace the leak, somehow?
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
By chance did the calendar get any update love? Maybe in the sense it is more intuitive to pick up on event locations? And did u say...no sweet lp animations?? ????
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
I think it should be possible for a company like HTC. But I am also doubtful as these builds that I am seeing are the release keys, not the test ones with those "Confidential" watermarks.
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
They can just come to XDA forums.

"Hmm we leaked 10 releases, but 1000 people are posting screenshots of their new Lollipop" :confused:
[One (M8) General] LNJ:
I don't think anyone in this thread actually works for HTC.
[One (M8) General] Mr Hofs:
Maybe........Maybe not.........
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
It wouldn't surprise me and why not, this is free feedback, bug fixing, beta testing, all they need to do is create an account and read the posts.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
We can never know.

Think of Cotulla who is the only one that can hack the Microsoft's UEFI, which makes me think he was one of those who was actually coding it.

That being said, people are hacking S-On and UEFI, which is essentially breaking the security mechanism of huge companies. How terrifying can it be if a lollipop build leaks on the internet, only a few days before the actual release?

The same people who were leaking these builds before are refusing to share it. So there must be a solid reason.

Will it harm the HTC? Probably not. Can people get fired for doing this? I don't know, maybe.
[One (M8) General] vipercoyote:
Nothing we didnt already know and the heck is he? We suppose to take his word, he isnt even a HTC rep
[One (M8) General] JanBorman:
They probably can get fired I guess. No company likes leaks (except for marketing purposes eg the interview movie)
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
see here

FYI AHRD 30.0 is android L
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Recognized and Advanced users "This week" ?

We will probably have the OTA before his ROM reaches us, as Football said the OTA might start as soon as Jan 12.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
thats what i reckon also ;)

a friend of mine who has the software told me that its very unlikely that a rom will be released until at least the OTA arrives
[One (M8) General] badboy47:
For a second i thought you linked to AHRD Android L

[IMG="plz"]http://pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/when-your-friend-asks-what-did-i-miss-at-the-party.gif[/IMG]
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
hahaha i wish i did mate :p
[One (M8) General] ahsan64:
It's time to restore STOCK backup and wait for official OTA .. :D
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
I know he has a lot of connections due to his reputation.

I really respect him and his continuous hard work and support over the past few years. But that being said, I tried his rom on a few HTC devices, and I personally think what people love most about his ROM is placebo effect. In a side-by-side comparison with my friend's device (who was running the stock rom) I couldn't see any noticeable difference in performance or battery life. but then again, I might have missed something.

Sorry for going off-topic.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
the stock roms on m8 have been consistently solid. your statement above is correct. theres not much that can be done to improve the current base. I have been on stock for about 2 months now, just rooted with xposed mods etc.

lets hope we get the same with lollisense considering the un-rushed release
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
That is what I'm hoping for as well.

The battery life (standby time and screen on time), and the performance on stock Kit-Kat is the best that I have ever seen.

My other observation is that GPE 5.0 can make my device really warm, specially when I go through the initial setup process (setting up accounts, downloading apps, etc.) This never happens to me on Sense 4.4.4.

So I am hoping to see a similar solid experience on lollisense, because otherwise, it will be a downgrade (considering there are not many visual changes in the new version)
[One (M8) General] LNJ:
The same goes for kernels especially the GPE ones. Stock is consistently smoother. Custom is only smooth initially.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
given HTCs track record with the m8 and that this phone was basically perfect out of the box, i don't think they will dissapoint us with this :)
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Stock Sense has been great, only moved over to Viper(once, lasted 3 days) and GPE conversion(lasted couple of days, converted twice) but GPE is very buggy.

I don't have a problem waiting on KitKat Sense for a while, nice and stable, fast, enjoying it a lot. So I can agree :D :good:
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
amen to that!!!

its only the teasing by the lucky peeps that is getting my ORD going hahahaha:laugh:;)
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Oh well, it's like reading spoilers to a movie you've been dying to see, by the time it shows you already know what's going to happen so it's not even great anymore.

I only read the "teasing" here and there and not really bothered by it, I'll experience it for myself when it comes.

Now I just hope HTC doesn't troll us again.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
very true and yes HTC can be a little sneaky like that sometimes.

these teasers just make me want to flash lol......
[One (M8) General] vipercoyote:
How do we know it will be released very soon in the next few days or even tommorow? Where is the evidence?
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Who invented the word "Lollisense"? It's very good hehehe

And I agree with the users above, sense KitKat on this phone made me fulfilled, I felt no need to try a different one (like when I was with the laggy TouchWiz). I just hope the lollisense it the same but with all the bugs we ear about Lollipop I am afraid that won't happen
[One (M8) General] TwistyValhalla:
Ah this is exciting! Been really happy with stock 4.4.4 (knock on wood) and think of it, there's no killer feature from Lollipop (running it on my old Nexus) that I really miss on 4.4.4. But it's exciting nonetheless. I guess us gadgetheads just want new things to play with. :)
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
lol its just easier than saying "android lolipop with HTC sense 6" all the time hehe :p
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Tell me about it.

I remember back in HD2 days, everyone could get excited about a 0.00.0.1 update for the HTC Sense, without knowing if anything was actually changed :D

Lollipop has a plenty of things to get excited about in comparison!
[One (M8) General] seadersn:
good ol' hd2... ppl are much to blessed nowadays [emoji18] [emoji57]
[One (M8) General] CMNDR:
If we're expecting an OTA in a week or so shouldn't HTC's update website reflect that the release is almost ready?
[One (M8) General] vipercoyote:
Its all speculation. Nobody really nows. take what you hear here with a grain of rice
[One (M8) General] CMNDR:
I mean I knew that [emoji14] was just trying to see if anyone could explain the discrepancy.
[One (M8) General] clsA:
To me it comes down to this. mike1986 and LlabTooFeR are 2 of the best know sources of information here at XDA. The both have connections to the Software way ahead of anyone else here. And If they both have working Roms and say the release is very near I believe them. I trust them a lot more than the HTC Website.
[One (M8) General] sl0519:
Any backup videos?
[One (M8) General] smoki3:
LlabTooFeR says that monday,wednesday and friday are release dates. So lets hope its monday:)
[One (M8) General] Nekromantik:
Those who are using GPE rom don't you worry google will stop m8 support so no more updates.
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
why should they stop it? it's still that htc and Google are working on it and i don't think it will be abandoned that easy
[One (M8) General] Electronic Punk:
I think HTC make the GPE updates and submit them to Google anyway.
[One (M8) General] knudsen81:
I don't think he knows what he talks about
[One (M8) General] badboy47:
Yep! I think he probably saw the Samsung phones dropping out which I would agree in that case. I think Google is dropping current phones to make room for new phones. Android L is out; I am sure phone companies want bring out new phones with Android L.
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Gpe phones are getting updates as long as the manufacturer are updating the original phones... So as long as the m8 gets updates from htc the Gpe should get them too

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[One (M8) General] :
This situation here remains me all the hype from month before. Endless begging for OTA. And how will be the world after OTA? Another endless complaining about the bugs. Nothing changes.
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
It will be always the same sadly

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[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
I don't see the issue?
[One (M8) General] Mr Hofs:
I think they mean that the issue here is that all(most) every comment here is about getting the update, HTC not releasing it on time, HTC released a buggy update thing and not actually discussing the update but more the timeframe and the negative impact around it.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
It's normal. We are all human geeks...or are we?
[One (M8) General] ext109:
Sent from my One M8
[One (M8) General] hamud.q:
Another leak :p

http://youtu.be/RfdOleTXqEU
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
So where is the ota after all these leaks
[One (M8) General] hamud.q:
He said it will start at the end of January .
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
For carrier version I think end of January, but dev edition will have it a bit sooner.
[One (M8) General] benj!:
Really not digging the look of that after using GPE for a while. I'll give it a try though, obviously.
[One (M8) General] badboy47:
Not sure what your post is trying to achieve here. i been following this thread for the past couple weeks now and I don't think anyone here is begging for ota nor complaining about bugs.
[One (M8) General] :
Just plain observation. And if you don't see it, good for you.

Here, on XDA, writing is limited to polite things.

And about begging:

"It's time to restore STOCK backup and wait for official OTA .."

"HTC. ........ !!!!!!!

Please make a move ...... !!!!!!!!!!!!! "

"Fingers crossed for Wednesday lol"

"are you guys ready?

Yessssss ...

Waiting Anxiously ...

It's 12th ... (-:"
[One (M8) General] Electronic Punk:
Again check out http://www.android.com/versions/lollipop-5-0/ to see whats new in 5.0.x its not just all about how it looks.

Many apps especially from Google already have material design.

Lots of backend changes on the M8 of course, but as you can see the notification panel and task switcher are the biggest changes the users will see.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
What about those changes for developers, that we cannot see, where they implemented by htc or is it automatically embedded in Google's OS?
[One (M8) General] Electronic Punk:
Absolutely in there
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
They made it a lot closer to stock L which I like. I was hoping the quick settings would also look like GPE but seeing the old ones probably means that they are fully configurable unlike GPE. Dialer definitely hasn't changed, notification icons are still Sense, lockscreen is a decent mix of both I think, I think they did a decent job at integrating L stuff and keeping the Sense flavor a bit.
[One (M8) General] Electronic Punk:
Yeah the smart lock stuff is cool.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
OMG I Just got the OTA for Lollipop on my Dev Edition!
[One (M8) General] woodydog:
Saw this and checked. Its downloading now?
[One (M8) General] sl0519:
Battery stats has gone completely cartoonish wow

The original sense looks hell lot better

not sure why it looks completely stock
[One (M8) General] LNJ:
Nice...

Is the full RUU exe available yet on the HTC site?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I just randomly checked and saw the window popup!

So much for updates being Monday-Wednesday-Friday!
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
hahaha :p:p:p

dev gets it first again muahahahaha any chance of an ota file for the old collection mate?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Well, if someone can tell me where or how to extract the file without root, and a site to upload it to, I can do that.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
have u applied it? if not download it and the file will be in ur download folder on internal storage :)

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if not il convert and do it later
[One (M8) General] n1234d:
Once the update is done downloading, select intall later, and look in your downloads folder. It should be there
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Still downloading, 92% done so I'll do install later and see if I can copy it to my PC.

I'd still need a hosting site though, no way I can share 600 megs on Google drive I think.
[One (M8) General] Petert87:
Only dev edition?
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
no bother dude if u can't il sort it tonight :)
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Download complete, I have the OTA file on the computer ready to upload
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
awesome is ur cid bsoo1 or o2 mate???
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I have MID 12000, CID BS_US001, and the OTA file ready to share if someone can hook me up with a file hosting site.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
i normally just use mega mate
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
OTA installing on the phone and uploading to Mega as we speak. Upload bandwidth as work is pretty bad though, looks like it will take about 30 minutes.
[One (M8) General] sl0519:
Please give a little review if you can
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
It's not quite done installing, 4th time the phone reboots and it still has updating to do. I think this is the final boot though.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
thanks dude much appreciated :D:D
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Android is upgrading ... Optimizing app 245 of 309 ...
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
What's the "Developer Edition" and what does it differ from the GSM unlocked version?
[One (M8) General] sl0519:
from https://twitter.com/BrunoZP/status/555030385038721024
[One (M8) General] randp1:
Update live for bs002, downloading now..
[One (M8) General] sl0519:
Keep us posted thanks

So eager to read feedbacks
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
In case anyone is wondering, You can get the update with Super CID. I just got the update notification with super cid after a developer edition RUU.