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[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I think we will see the Dev edition get it's OTA in the next couple weeks, maybe this week if testing goes well.
[One (M8) General] TwistyValhalla:
Those of you who are using stock 5.0.1 on your M8, are you able to disable apps? I noticed that I can pretty much disable all apps on my M8 (stock 4.4.4) but unable to do so on my Nexus 4 (Stock 5.0.1).
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
think im going to do the same. :D
[One (M8) General] mushages:
I can't wait for 2 months for the update! But we will lose all sense cool tweaks (camera, eye experience, music, blinkfeed etc..) But I think it's worth it.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Definitely a lot of good stuff about Sense that is lost with GPE. For me it's the integration with Outlook 365 and the calendar. With GPE it doesn't seem to sync as well and I often don't get notified of meetings. I tried touchdown, outlook owa, not I have the account setup in the new GMail but none of them come close to the stock corp email app in my opinion.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
lol i just converted and missing sense already. back i go haha!!!

(also yes i just had to try check for updates didn't I. move along people nothing to see here :cowboy:)
[One (M8) General] blackroseMD1:
Source is hitting AOSP right now.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/11/03/google-pushing-android-5-0-lollipop-source-code-aosp-right-now/
[One (M8) General] mushages:
Sense 6 has a lot of android L looks. I guess android L UI will match with sense 6 but I doubt it will be 6 maybe 6.5 6+? Because they might do a retouch to blend it with L style or else we won't feel the difference because sense takes over almost everything in android UI.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
im eagerly waiting to see what sense is like on lollipop

That is if i can sort my phone lol! trying to convert back to sense and TWRP doesnt seem to like to mount system or cache or data lol!!! think its time to flash the stock HTC RUU zip
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Known problem, GPE partitions are too small to handle Sense.

What makes you want to go back to sense so close to L being released?
[One (M8) General] BR7fan:
Aosp is releasing now

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-5-0-lollipop-source-code-563560/
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
im a sense ***** mate ;) lol

tried the method in grentuu's thread but to no avail, guess the partitions weren't flashed correctly. now i have the RUUzip for sense and it seems to be working
[One (M8) General] ext109:
90 days from today... Yikes, long wait!

Sent from my One M8
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
January 31st
[One (M8) General] mushages:
i wonder when GPE will get updated
[One (M8) General] blackroseMD1:
GPe usually gets it around the same time or not long after Nexus devices, so definitely within the next 30 days...probably much sooner.
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
If gpe is coming in December I won't waste my time even trying to convert cheaper I wait until January. But if it comes in November one might consider but I love sense too much
[One (M8) General] farru503:
its official....

No lollipop for anyone today :'(

Lol
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Don't forget that HTC promised to have it available within 90 days, but they can't control how fast your carrier sends it to you so they might have it after 80 days and take 2 more months to push it.

I'm thinking of sticking with Sense on Developer edition as well, as much as I like having the latest, I've grown to like sense very much.
[One (M8) General] hack14u:
Ya, Dev Edition is the only way to fly on this phone, it's awesome, and updates are as fast as HTC can get them to us.
[One (M8) General] raviluke:
+1 on that. Just install Dev edition and its stock and latest updates.
[One (M8) General] squabbi:
Would someone be able to compile an L release for the M8 with the current aosp code?
[One (M8) General] scottjb:
Yes, I can disable apps on my M8 running 5.0.1.
[One (M8) General] TwistyValhalla:
That's good to know. Thanks!
[One (M8) General] Bobbi lim:
I think those apps that you want to disable on your N4 might be system process that allows the phone to work properly :p
[One (M8) General] Rotten Ross:
Someone took to Twitter to ask HTC when lollipop would be out for m8 this was their response

"We promised to deliver Lollipop to both the HTC One (M7) and (M8) within 90 days of our announcement on November 3rd."
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
That's old news, they promised that a few weeks before Lollipop was released

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I'm curious to see what battery life will be on Sense with Lollipop. Sense is already great, Lollipop is even better, both should be even better.
[One (M8) General] Seahorse:
I really don't like the look of the new UI any more than I like Windows 8. Why are they all dumbing it down and using weird colours. Everything looks like a colour blind 7 year old was responsible for it?

I have already ditched the gmail client because of it.
[One (M8) General] FordPrefectAO:
That's the direction they're moving in, for better or worse
[One (M8) General] jags_the1:
that's just your opinion. i like colors. makes you feel alive. black and grey seems to be very tasteless and dull . and that's just my opinion.
[One (M8) General] L1nuz:
Finally, they have done a good job with producing a graphical profile. It will draw attention and make it more attractive to regular users and for us power users, there is always ROMs. Why complain? This is good for android! This is a good chance to convert iphone users to android, because of "dumb down" simplicity. If they do it right, it will make android more successful. And btw.. windows 8.1 is great.. best move windows have done in years!
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Well there we are, 2015(Happy new year everyone! ) and I must say, quite disappointed that we didn't get the update before the new year. Yes, I know the whole 90days thing goes into February, still would have been nice, given the fact that it's already rolling out for the Galaxy S5(At least the Polish and Spanish variants).

Oh well.
[One (M8) General] uoY_redruM:
I was hoping to see it this morning. Figured they'd roll it out for the new year. Maybe everyone is still hung over from last night, lol.

Maybe tomorrow morning.
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
Probably February
[One (M8) General] Rotten Ross:
The rumour mill is saying it could be tomorrow but I doubt it. Probably early February
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
They Said the third
[One (M8) General] tessut:
Thrust me it will be the third cause software has no verification stage anymore
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
What do you mean no verification stage and the third is Saturday a weekend
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Too many people taking vacation time between xmas and new years. Unless they were completely done testing before Dec 25th, I don't think we'll see an update before the week of Jan 5th.

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I'm not sure what he meant but we have seen OTAs start on weekends before.
[One (M8) General] TwistyValhalla:
I'm looking forward to lollipop but I hope HTC take their time to release something well tested and solid, not something buggy.
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
All they have to do has flip the switch because it's in certification and next stage is pushing to customers.it's been two weeks in certification mode
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Certification is testing and fixing bugs. Sure it's the last step but it took 2 weeks for GPE to get TA so it might take longer for Sense since code is double the size of GPE
[One (M8) General] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned.

Given the subject of this thread, some jocular "banter" is expected. Let's try and keep it at least vaguely relevant though...

Thanks
[One (M8) General] Desaf:
At Facebook they said starting from 3 November it is 90days so I guess it will be before 3 February
[One (M8) General] jsho31:
Thanks, that should clear up some of the thoughts of a Jan. 3rd date considering thats only 60 days from Nov 3rd.

Plus they said they didnt have a date for sure.
[One (M8) General] knudsen81:
They will never say any date ? so it can be tomorrow or any other day
[One (M8) General] Rotten Ross:
The response from HTC is just. Typical lets no commit to a set date. I doubt it will be tomorrow but we will find out then
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
To be honest, I was expecting a leak by now. I am surprised that it didn't happen.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I'm surprised of that too, other than the screenshots and videos, not the slightest hint of a leak.

If carriers have an update in 30 days, I have to think dev edition will have something in the next 2 weeks.
[One (M8) General] mjs2011:
I'm curious to see if the quick setting ui will change resembling stock lollipop.
[One (M8) General] knudsen81:
Don't think so not before sense 7
[One (M8) General] NJGSII:
I guess you don't remember when they did announce a set release date for the GPE lollipop release and when they didn't meet it they got a ton of **** for it. Not being comitted to a date is for the best.
[One (M8) General] Rotten Ross:
I don't remember as I don't have a GPE phone. Yeah that's kinda what I was getting at, didn't think I'd have to spell it out. Similar happened with the one x after awhile they just said keep checking it will with you soon.
[One (M8) General] Ronaldo_9:
What I do not understand is why Google removed the option to move apps2SD.

[IMG="Kitkat option"]http://forums.androidcentral.com/attachments/moto-e/119989d1401084309t-moto-e-how-change-default-storage-external-sd-screenshot_2014-05-26-11-27-48.png[/IMG]

UK only ships with 16GB m8 model. I have 64GB and the only app that uses the SD for all files is Sygic maps.

Also GPE camera apps do not have option to save pics and videos to SD card...
[One (M8) General] uoY_redruM:
Yeah, no update for T-Mobile this morning.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
It's only 6am in California, give it a chance
[One (M8) General] LenAsh:
Posts inexplicably discussing "Timezones" deleted.

Keep to facts, with links to sources, not wild and unhelpful speculation.
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Something from football ;) so please stop that guys

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57924514
[One (M8) General] djlukas1983:
What I don't understand is why Google has disabled write access to external SD card. It's silly step.

Wysłane z mojego HTC One_M8 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
Good find I wonder who now thinks it should be today now hahaha
[One (M8) General] clay21:
People should just be patient and enjoy the last days or weeks of kit kat and for those who can't wait should follow the lollipop progress on the Htc update site....http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/#device-content :)
[One (M8) General] 10rdan:
From what can be read all over the net, there seems to be a load of bugs and running issues, memory leak, associated with L.

I know there's a hell of a lot of work involved in developing a new OS, and I for one wouldn't have a clue where to start.

But all the hype, from "people in the know", made it sound like the canines testicles.

I just read Google are already planning a 5.1 update in Feb, so....... we, myself include, should just keep on using 4.4.4 in it's "stable" form.

And, lets face it, it won't be that different from 4.4.4 after they've put Sense 6 over the top of it.

Everyone to their own though, just my opinion.

:)

Sent from M8
[One (M8) General] mjs2011:
Agreed. Things are running great right now. I'm even fine with remaining on 4.4.4 until I buy they m9.
[One (M8) General] Ronaldo_9:
On lollipop there is write access to SD. If the app has write supports and it attempts to make a change to SD card then a pop up appears letting you select the root of the SD card or a specific folder.

Solid Explorer and QuickPic both have SD card write access.
[One (M8) General] Bobbi lim:
I doubt what you say. Though I know google did claim that lollipop has sd write access but most of the apps I use in the play store does not have them yet...
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
That's something I'm afraid of, most of the look and animations will be removed and HTC will keep the background color and the progress bars, the rest will look exactly the same until Sense 7 comes out.

That's to be expected though, Sense looks great but it's also a pretty heavy skin so people that prefer the L animations need to stick with Google edition. If it wasn't for the glitches I'd be happy with GPE but Sense is usually rock solid.
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Have you noticed problems when switching from main account to guest account? Switching to guest seems fine but switching back to main causes a crash and "wipes" the homescreen of all apps, widgets, wallpapers. Also seems to cause problems when the screen goes off and you want to lock back in, causing lag on the device. It's fine again after a hard reboot.

Changed back to Sense again, it's annoying.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I don't use multi-user so I would not know about this bug. The 2 main things I run into is slow WiFi connection sometimes, fixes itself when I turn WiFi off and back on, and music skipping over bluetooth if WiFi is on.

The second problem I get around with tasker but WiFi performance I haven't found a way to fix yet.
[One (M8) General] benj!:
Yeah I won't be in a particular rush in install L with Sense 6 for that reason. I'm pretty happy running Skydragon for now, especially since HTC Camera was included; I've had no issues other than the previously mentioned lag which builds up after a time, but that's easily fixed and not even really that noticeable.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I was able to use tasker to workaround a lot of the glitches. Turn off WiFi when my Bluetooth is connected (which is only in the car anyways so I don't mind), there's probably a way to auto reboot at 2am to get around the lag problem as well.

Definitely nothing big, just little glitches here and there and I'm sure will be fixed shortly.
[One (M8) General] digitard:
I needed to convert mine to 5.0.X GPE for an app I'm involved with that had reports of crashing so it was a bit of a necessity, and I do like it so far. Definitely has the memory leak thing, and releasing it properly... but overall not too much to complain about.

I miss the "storage" toggle that I had with my HTC based ROM's in the 4.4.x series (.ie toggle pics, sms, etc, to my SD card) since now it's designed to let the app decide (and neither the Google Camera or a side load of the HTC camera seem to want to save there).

WiFi not always reconnecting is a bit of an irk, and I don't know if its AW5 or Lollipop itself but I seem to be getting more disconnect/reconnect vibrations on my MOTO360 than I did in the past.

Overall I don't have many gripes that can't be gotten around (ie reboot once in a while and/or moving content around until the apps start supporting SD card writes themselves), but definitely has a few that I would have thought they'd squash before release.

I can live w/ the oddities for now, though.
[One (M8) General] tomlikesandroidsofar:
The thought of getting Android L on my HTC One M8 doesn't exactly thrill me. I've used it on the Nexus 5 for about a month and I wasn't happy with it (without going into details).

IMHO Android 4.4 on the HTC One M8 is amazingly stable and offers great functionality, and Sense 6 a great design. Battery life is brilliant, and I have a silent mode. So what's to gain?

What I wanted to share with you is that I actually contacted HTC and asked them how I can disable the notification for a new system update (when it will be available). They answered, that installing updates is generally advisable, but if I really want to get rid of the notification, I can go to Settings - Apps - All - Updater, press the clear data button and then the force stop button. This should stop the update notification till the next restart.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
If you switch to ART, you'll get even better performance and battery life. Be ready to watch you phone boot for 5-10 minutes though, it takes time to precompile 300ish apps.
[One (M8) General] Ndaoud360:
I wander if anyone got their hands on the lollipop sense from the just announced new desire phone.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Sense definitely does have advantages that L doesn't offer or has offered way before L. Comparing stock to stock, Sense already saves pictures on the SD card, gives you a primitive but working file manager to move things around on the memory card, Camera is amazing (ported to GPE so that's not a factor anymore), music sounds better, and it's rock solid. Dialer is ugly but it's not that bad.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
What I find interesting is the fact that people complain why Sense 6 on top of Lollipop doesn't have more 5.0 UI touches;

While we already had things such as tinted statusbar (in every sense app) and white backgrounds (in apps like settings) way before lollipop was even announced.

I can swear that Google copied the tinted statusbar from Sense 6. Just as they did copy the Google Now homescreen from Blinkfeed in Sense 5. (The exact same transition)
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I looked at the videos again and I didn't notice that the L on Sense is keeping the notification pull down from L as well as the double pull to quick settings. Since the quick settings are easily configurable on Sense that could be a great feature to only have the toggles we want to see.

You are right, a lot of L has been inspired from Sense including lock screen notification.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
It doesn't, you are right. but IMO it looks much better than the implementation of Samsung or LG. I played with both, and I think HTC did a better job. but again, this could be just my opinion.
[One (M8) General] Electronic Punk:
Wouldn't matter, the new Desire is 64bit.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
The more I look at the videos the more I like Sense 6 with L. They did keep the notification look, the recent apps, the double swipe for quick settings so that's a lot. I expect the dialer to be the same as before and hopefully the notifications on the lockscreen can be swiped like on L
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
Check out [MENTION=494185]LlabTooFeR[/MENTION]'s Tweet: https://twitter.com/LlabTooFeR/status/552784562007588864?s=09
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
It would've been great if they could wait another few weeks and release it based on 5.1 to fix the current issues, including the memory leak. 5.0 isn't as solid as KitKat unfortunately.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
True, if they release right before 5.1, it will take time before they update again.
[One (M8) General] badboy47:
Agreed but I suspect that's not going to happen :(. I wonder if it can be fixed via small patch?
[One (M8) General] mjs2011:
Would you mind lining one of the videos?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Right here : https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC4eLGkCwiulC5yKJUQ_m2VA
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I'm sure it can and will, but once the M8 has been updated to 5.0.1, they will finish up the M7, then probably star working at 5.1 and push that a few weeks later.
[One (M8) General] hb5:
Maybe HTC apply that fix in this 5.0.1...as they said for 4.3 rom,that they included some updates from 4.4..They would be extremely stupid to push out Lollipop with that big problem.
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
i think it will be the case and maybe therefore they "need" those "90 days"... 5.1 is just like 4.4.4 just an update with the fixes for 5.0.1/.2, so they might push 5.0.1/.2 with fixes from 5.1 to prevent rebasing the whole update on 5.1
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
That's probably what's going to happen, you don't want to QA and update just to have another one right after.
[One (M8) General] raviluke:
For some reason lollipop gpe gets very laggy and buggy if you have over 100 apps, especially large apps like games. Kinda got tired flashing and reflashing various roms so yesterday I ended up buying iphone 6+ 128GB. Over 260 apps installed and smooth as hell. I'm still holding on to the M8, let's see if sense L fixes it, otherwise I'm stuck to iphone for good.
[One (M8) General] tomlikesandroidsofar:
How do you guys know what Android 5.1 looks like. It's not been released. How do you know that it'll be better?

However, I think HTC just has to release an Android 5.0.x update, even if 5.1 is on the way.

In the state that Android currently is I personally would really like to have the opportunity to choose the OS version, with an official way to downgrade as well as to stop the update notification. Just like I chose my OS version on Windows (desktop).
[One (M8) General] -juanito-:
Try CM12. It's much faster than GPE
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Yea but no sense apps etc ,so bad camera, bad sound etc compared to sense and gpe
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Blinkfeed, gallery and weather apps work for me on official cm12. but I couldn't get the Camera to work. So yeah, bad sound, bad camera ;( Its a price you have to pay for a smoother experience.
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
I'm using different sense roms always and elementalx kernel and sense is for me smoother than anything else...tried one time few weeks ago cm but I must say I hate it xD
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Sense is definitely the #1 choice for me. I was just comparing GPE with CM
[One (M8) General] Motivation03:
Completely agree. It's like I want to run cm and i like the feel of it, but the camera and sound is the nail in the coffin. Throw in my signal jumping all over the place too.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
This is true, the quality of CM for our device is really poor. I can't recall having any of these issues with CM on my previous devices, including the M7.

Luckily, sense 6 is so good that I rarely miss CM and its theme engine.
[One (M8) General] manup456:
I have been on the ruu un-rooted stock for a week or so and it's 100% for me.
[One (M8) General] badboy47:
And just to be curious how many of those apps you actually use everyday? I have over 50 apps and I probably use 5 - 10 of those apps.
[One (M8) General] :
You know, he has an iPhone. Remote terminal for buying apps from App Store :) Hence, he must buy thousands of them ;)
[One (M8) General] FIFATG:
Made the transition from Sense 4.4.4 to GPE Lollipop 5.0.1 about a week ago, just wanted to share with anyone thinking of switching - go for it and never look back.

Stock Lollipop is just flawless, even without Xposed I'm very satisfied.
[One (M8) General] benj!:
Couldn't agree more! Now that you can add the Sense camera to GPE I really can't see a time where I'd go back.

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That said, I do miss the Sense music player
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
+1

sense music player + hk mod + v4a = eargasm lol :laugh::D
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Sense player, hk mod and project era with Dolby mobile= crazy insane **** love it!
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
hahaha dolby mobile??
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Yea check his thread in one m7 forum, Dolby mobile is ported from Huawei and is really awesome ;)
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
so must work on m8 if your using it!! cheers will take a look bro :D
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Yea is ported to all devices ! :)
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
sorry mate, u got a link? search was a bit ambiguous lol
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2211163
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
awesome thanks mate. I thought the dolby was a standalone mod haha!!! :)

will this work with v4a?

Reason being i use the sterio pan option in v4a as my headphone socket is slightly buggered meaning the music is always louder on the right hand side lol
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Yea but don't try to mix many dsp/ sound mods just try it [emoji14] personally I don't use v4a anymore
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
cool cheers man :)

Back on topic, where the hell is lolli sense lol :silly: