yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M8) General] illini71:
I know i was thinking the same thing:rolleyes:
[One (M8) General] Zulake:
To be honest, I think I'm gonna stay with GPe instead of Sense.

I feel that battery life is way, way, wayyyy better on GPe.

A week is easily reached with light to moderate use, can't do that with Sense.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
The only thing that sucks is that Mo puts on Twitter "Our target is Monday by end of day" and people here, even some low-credibility websites out there get all moist with excitement and put up headlines like "OTA to hit the M7 and M8 today", which generates even more moisture and then people are furious because "they lied to us".

No one lied to us and if you read a tweet for more than it's worth and end up disappointed, it's your own fault.

Tho ONLY promise that was made was that we would get the update within 90 days, that's it, everything else has been "We hope to have this done by..." and then things didn't go as smooth as expected.
[One (M8) General] tameracingdriver:
:laugh:. No.
[One (M8) General] manup456:
That's a lot of moisture buddy [emoji97] [emoji97]
[One (M8) General] Zulake:
Yes.

Lots of energy saving, low brightness, barely any apps, no battery sucking facebook and stuff, syncing once a day instead of push and you reach that easily.

Anyway, this is going offtopic.
[One (M8) General] grentuu:
Mo will end up regretting his 'always on' updates. I know he is trying to be helpful but this is working against both him and HTC.

Marketing is about giving and fulfilling predictions. When you don't control the outcome, to give a prediction is both futile and silly. You can be made to look stupid by things outside of your control.

He would be well advised to stop giving updates. My response would be simple...

"When HTC give TA, I will give you a time for OTA.. watch and wait."
[One (M8) General] superevilllama:
Whats the point of having a phone then? lol just saying
[One (M8) General] Zulake:
To make sure people are able to reach me when they require me.

And in case you wonder why I have this phone for just that, I won it at a contest. ;)
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
More delays, I guess google found more problems

https://twitter.com/moversi/status/539931668786585600
[One (M8) General] scifan:
Joy!... not
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
It takes 3 to 4 days for google to run its QA tests so I guess next Monday will be another "TA coming soon" tweet.
[One (M8) General] scifan:
That would be assuming that they don't need to figure out, change code, and troubleshoot internally first... just re-compiling without actually fixing whatever they found to be "Wrong" wouldn't really do much...

I'm curious what issue they need to resolve... someone on twitter was speculating about the camera... but I though the camera was working ok when I tested the leak... though I couldn't seem to get HTC's photo editor to work for me...

On the leak, I found LTE speed to be marginally slower... (mid 90's vs mid 60's mpbs for download), and I found bluetooth to have audio drops while playing through my car stereo... Not sure what others have "found"...

*shrug*
[One (M8) General] dshoe:
The camera and HTC's photo editor worked fine for me, as well as audio through my Bluetooth headphones.
[One (M8) General] sweetnsour:
His tweet seems to be worded somewhat ambiguously. My first interpretation was that there is a new delay, but maybe this "unexpected delay" he is referring to is just this whole entire delay we're already in (i.e. still waiting for TA). It seem as if he is not announcing a new delay but rather following up on the current delay. Hopefully that's the case, but this is just my guess.
[One (M8) General] scifan:
Kenwood KDC-X996... my guess is it runs a different protocol than for headphones...
[One (M8) General] jrodsep:
Don't look now but 5.0.1 is in the horizon.

http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/AndroidPolice/~3/Hm8BaJZ_9_M/story01.htm
[One (M8) General] manup456:
I was just about to post that now I know what google was doing lol... They sent it back because HTC needs to update to 5.0.1 now.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Could be!
[One (M8) General] scifan:
Excellent!
[One (M8) General] raviluke:
Hmmmm, so I guess another 2 weeks wait now :|
[One (M8) General] BlackAlien92:
Tipped release date for android L

androidcommunity.com/htc-android-5-0-lollipop-update-timeline-tipped-20141020/
[One (M8) General] Hawkysoft:
Lawl January or February for sense.. I highly doubt that much difference in time between non and with
[One (M8) General] BlackAlien92:
That's what I think too. I can see sense getting updated by at least end of December.
[One (M8) General] superchilpil:
Really? Because that's pretty darn accurate. They develop it and internally test it which will take a couple months, then they do a sort of beta test with normal users for a month or two to squash remaining bugs.
[One (M8) General] mattman83:
I'm inclined to believe the article simply because of the source. Football knows his stuff.

We will undoubtedly get leaked/test versions in custom rom land, but full release will be early next year. Don't forget that we're probably also looking at a sense version update, so it's more than simply fixing things up to work with 5.0.

If you want it sooner, then yeah, GPe.

M.
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
Well I heard they were working on the sense version from months ago
[One (M8) General] walle4893:
I think we all should be grateful for good guy HTC. They give us a month or two to play around with stock material design from Lollipop prior dropping the new sense UI.
[One (M8) General] gull_s_777:
What you guys looking forward to in new Sense version.

I think an added row of icons in blinkfeed launcher would be nice. Too much gap left with 4 rows on such big screen.

Also an option to view photos in simple folder view in gallery would be nice without all that album/zoe clutter.
[One (M8) General] abinash:
Have u guys think that google is going to change the so called sd card restriction (r/w problem) in 5.0?
[One (M8) General] gsmyth:
You're about the third person I've seen asking this, I don't think the ad situation will change.

They've not included sd card slots since the nexus one and pushing people to use their cloud services for storing stuff. The changes were made for security purposes, ie apps can only access 'their' folders files on the external sd card. Google are implementing more and more security features like encryption as standard, to enhance privacy and security and these are features that are more relevant than ever at the moment.
[One (M8) General] abinash:
Oh sorry to asked same question....lets see then ...hope for the good [emoji6]
[One (M8) General] gsmyth:
No worries, just noticed a few people who have been asking if there will be SD card changes. I find the HTC file explorer fine for managing the SD card. I think you can gain more control if you root. I think it would be better if phone manufacturers provided more internal storage, as 16GB feels a bit stingy these days and is one of the few annoyances I have about the m8. I know the M8 does give you the option of an SD but you're still limited by the how many apps you can install to the internal space. In my opinion HTC should have stuck with the 32GB storage AND added the SD slot.
[One (M8) General] jake.99x3:
We may get leaks and aosp or gpe ROMs but a sense 7 won't be released until January and at the point there probably won't be a leak because of it being such a large update.
[One (M8) General] fix-this!:
Gonna be a long while b4 sense and aosp roms see android l. Ill be converting to gpe when it hits in a few weeks. Just hope xposed supports art.
[One (M8) General] Mohamad.T:
9804

HTC One (M8), HTC One (M7) are the first to get Android 5.0, timeframe for GPE is late November-December, for Sense based devices January-February.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I'm excited to see what HTC will do with the new Sense and Android L. I'm hoping for a cleaner status bar because with Sense, it doesn't take long before that thing gets full of icons.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
i'm interested as to what sense version

Will HTC do the norm of bringing out a .5 upgrade (i.e sense 6.5) and leave the 7 for the new flagship in april? or will we get sense 7 in january?

i'm thinking maybe they will do a 6.5 as jan is close to when they release the new flagship each year. if this is true, we may even get a sense 6.5 kitkat, seeing as sense 5.5 was released on android 4.3 (prior to the kitkat update) last year........
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Some news

OTA for all nexus devices are pretty much confirmed to arrive at 3rd of November.

It's a safe bet to say that google play edition devices will receive it within 2 to 3 weeks after that.
[One (M8) General] .Ryker:
Xposed breaks ART
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
All people are knowing that...

But the xposed dev said he will try to make it compatible as soon as he gets his hands on some important things for art and when android 5 is near.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] manup456:
No I don't think so this is just a code update and once HTC updates source to latest it will get approved fairly quick. I'm thinking Friday the latest and bug free. I kind knew this was coming from Google because how would the release a GPE without bugs and the nexus roms be filled with them.
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
http://www.androidheadlines.com/2014/12/android-5-0-1-hits-aosp-build-number-lrx22c.html

---------- Post added at 03:47 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:44 AM ----------

http://www.christiantoday.com/artic...tc.one.m8.delayed.htc.february.2015/43689.htm:D:D:cool::cool::cool::cool:
[One (M8) General] hack14u:
Wow, the factory images have already dropped. Incredible. It's good to see the big G doing some exterminating this quick.
[One (M8) General] OLEO34:
Am I the only one who is losing their mind without silent!? Like what the hell is going on. I want a light notification!

Not vibrate. Not nothing at all. Just a little blinking light! God damn it!

I have tried to live with it like this for 2 weeks and it's brutal!
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
What are you talking bout
[One (M8) General] BR7fan:
He wants his notification light to show a lollipop update lol
[One (M8) General] carlitoperez:
There is no way to set the phone to silent in lollipop. The only way to do it for now is to put the volume on the setting right before vibrate, powering the phone off, turning it on and then lowering the volume one level when it comes back on. This lasts until you raise the volume or restart.
[One (M8) General] BR7fan:
EDIT

I TOTALLY messed that up lmao
[One (M8) General] otariq:
Lol what? The silent option has been turned into 2 modes, priority and none. With priority you can choose specific contacts whose calls and texts you want to be notified of among other types of notifications. None obviously means zero notifications, not even the alarm
[One (M8) General] Phascinate:
Yes, I hate it! Hopefully it gets fixed in 5.0.1 or something.
[One (M8) General] Dadud:
Hopefully someone comes in with a mod and gives us the ability to turn it back into the old way. i liked alarms working on silent mode.
[One (M8) General] rquinn19:
Works fine for me.

I work nights so sleep during the day. Only select people can interrupt and then my alarm works without any issue as well. I only hate not being able to adjust media volume without it playing.
[One (M8) General] OriginalAuratic:
skydragon was updated to 5.0.1 for those that care
[One (M8) General] carlitoperez:
None of those options are silent mode however, you're stuck with either some version of it with the occasional sound or a version where nothing goes off at all. Setting it to silent mode the way I listed has the alarm go off and notifies you of everything without the ringer going off or the phone vibrating.
[One (M8) General] Zulake:
Android 5.0.1 just got released for the Nexus 7, 9 and 10 tablets.

Source: http://tweakers.net/nieuws/100029/google-rolt-android-501-uit-naar-nexus-tablets.html

(Dutch!)
[One (M8) General] dspcap:
Do you care? Or are you one of the bitter ones?
[One (M8) General] OriginalAuratic:
Whats there to be bitter about? I do care, tried it but went back to stock as i dont mind waiting for the actual release..im still alive arent i? Lol its just software after all
[One (M8) General] weepatc:
Well folks it could be a long wait but I agree HTC should hold back the OTA until all major issues have been addressed :

http://www.christiantoday.com/artic...tc.one.m8.delayed.htc.february.2015/43689.htm
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Can people stop linking that bull**** article at Christian Today... No one said GPE would be updated in February.

That site is 60% excrement and 40% click bait links to more web excrement.
[One (M8) General] weepatc:
Up until now no one has said with any certainty when it will be rolled out or do you know something the rest of us don't know. It sounds as if there are major bugs in Lollipop & I don't think these will be fixed overnight unfortunately.
[One (M8) General] dspcap:
I wasn't trying to be rude, my bad. My kids both have Nexus 4 devices and have gotten the OTAs, I have a Nexus 7 and have Android L on that. Then I put Skydragon on my HTC one. Out of all the devices, my HTC one has the best battery life and has the least amount of lag. I think when the OTA comes out, people are going to be disappointed and will be complaining about things. Skydragon's is much more efficient than anything I have seen from Google so far.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Just noticed this today, went to the play store, my apps, all, and from there I was able to long press an app, then select a bunch of apps before hitting the install button.

Nice time saver there.
[One (M8) General] rquinn19:
Play Store update a long time ago added that...not Android L related though
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I hope the delay is because either HTC or Google wanted to include the 5.0.1 changes in the OTA. No point in sending an update if you will need another one right after.
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Makes the most sense
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
Too much of a coincidence with the release of 5.0.1 for it not to be :)
[One (M8) General] manup456:
Well SD already has 5.0.1 build lol... I'm sticking with [MENTION=1211160]HolyAngel[/MENTION] he's actually producing roms a lot faster than HTC.

Edit: And I am going to laugh my a$$ off when they put out the ota and the rom is the same as what we have now because it's perfect already. People are acting like the ota is going to change the world or something.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
It took almost 3 updates in a single day for HolyAngel to make the 5.0.1 ROM stable. I deeply appreciate his efforts and I am grateful for his offerings, But it would be really great if he could share a stock "untouched" version of the leak without any weird experiment on it (like pushing the gapps to the data partition). Just saying, with lots of respect for the dev.
[One (M8) General] dshoe:
I'd love to know how he gets these leaks!
[One (M8) General] grentuu:
9pm over here.

Off to bed in an hour or so.... Just wondering what embarrassing excuse/delay Mo will come out with tonight?
[One (M8) General] manup456:
The reason he did that was trying to save us space on the system because GPE only uses 1gb of the 2gb the phone offers. But I'll let you guys wait on the white horse "look to my coming, at first light, on the fifth day. At dawn, look to the east" jk

And think about he's put out nothing but solid builds and not even google or HTC can get this together and they have tons of people working on it.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
My guess "Google is running the fix through QA, pushing to get TA by Thursday."
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
do you want buggy 5.0.0 now or wait a tiny bit longer for a solid 5.0.1 ota? think...........
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Now!!!!

Is about the principle

Promises not kept etc
[One (M8) General] Captain_Throwback:
What promises?
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
OTA rage is kicking in for some people it seems :cyclops: :silly:
[One (M8) General] Human Guinea Pig:
No promises have been made but targets have been set and missed. Twice.

And he made his targets public thus giving every one hope.
[One (M8) General] grentuu:
The issue IS the promise.

Before teaching I spent over twenty five years in sales and marketing.

I had one simple creed.

'Only promise what YOU can deliver. Then make sure YOU deliver on that promise.'
[One (M8) General] Dadud:
i didnt see anything he's said saying he promises to have the update out by now. HTC has their 90 day gaurentee. thats good enough of a promise for me.
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Exactly
[One (M8) General] gutbomb:
But nobody promised anything.
[One (M8) General] rquinn19:
Hanging up on that one word?

When I tell someone I'm doing something, I do it, regardless of if I promised or not.
[One (M8) General] R4INS:
It depends on how you read it. Could it have sounded like a promise? Yeah it could, did he say the word i promise? Not exactly.

When someone says hey ill be there tuesday, i expect them tuesday regardless of the word "promise". Now if he said " we aim to release the update monday as long as we dont run into any snags" i take that as a maybe it will maybe it wont. Same as if a friend said "i may be over on tuesday, but something could come up".

Could he have worded his tweets better to get less backlash and hate? Oh heck yeah he could have. Unless you are 100% certain always have a fallback word such as: unless, maybe, hope to release, etc.
[One (M8) General] rrmzr1:
Everyone is still waiting for the ota lol. Skydragon people 4.1.4. Its pretty flawless at this point. I even have a suspicion it could be the final build.
[One (M8) General] R4INS:
Are you serious? I full wiped twice today already, 4.1.1, and then for 4.1.2 a few hours later, now its at 4.1.4? Not full wiping again today lol.
[One (M8) General] rbouza1:
honestly dont have to full wipe from 4.1.2 up, same build just 2 small fixes
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
60 days to go for update
[One (M8) General] jrodsep:
No word from Mo Versi tonight but the Galaxy S5 is getting 5.0.

https://twitter.com/AndroidAuth/status/540305934392639488
[One (M8) General] Omar1c:
Is it a possibility that we may actually be skipping 5.0 and going right on 5.1 since skydragon a gpe based ROM is in lrx22c?
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
I don't care who gets it first I only make noise and get mad if 90days past and I don't get it
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
We'll probably get a tweet tonight but I'm not expecting anything other than more delays.

He's a VP, I'm sure the M8 GPE update is not his highest priority, they sold a lot more Sense based M8 than GPE. Not that it's a reason to not care, but I think the Sense OTA will have a much bigger impact.
[One (M8) General] dspcap:
Well said... I couldn't agree more!
[One (M8) General] danger12345:
Yup! Sense base is the signature handset and I'm better later this much the ota will be here for sense base
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
http://m.androidcentral.com/android-50-lollipop-possibly-rolling-out-samsung-galaxy-s5 lol
[One (M8) General] rquinn19:
Where do you think he's getting his bases from?
[One (M8) General] R4INS:
I want the ota because along with it usually comes new device specific source code. New code, better custom roms with less bugs. It honestly IS something to get hyped about even if we have skydragon.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
More so now that Skydragon has more "not part of stock" features which usually means less stability. I like to stay stock which is why I'm looking forward to the OTA.

SkyDragon works well, I'm not saying it has problems, but it did have 3 releases just today from forgetting something or adding something that didn't work.

To each his own, I had a good time flashing obsessively since my Moto Droid but now I prefer stock and stable.

I'm actually thinking that once the OTA comes out, I'll take a break from flashing completely at least until Sense with L is released.

I know I don't need to stress about the update, but knowing there is one does stress me somehow and I get enough stress at work :)
[One (M8) General] poondog:
Stock ROMs are loads better than they used to be.. On older devices I had to flash a custom rom to get features and smoothness I wanted

Now with stock, I can run it fine for performance, its just missing a few custom things.

fwiw I am running stock on my Nexus 7 2013 and its fantastic. I hope we can get our hands on a stock build of gpe :)
[One (M8) General] LNJ:
SkyDragon is nice cause it has tweaks built in. But I do not like features added cause they tend to make the rom less stable. However so far so good with SD!
[One (M8) General] Phascinate:
I feel the exact same way. I had a Nexus 4 back in the day and I modded and ROMed the heck out of it. It was fun then, but now I prefer stability. I don't have the time that I used to have, and now I don't really want to be bother with reconfiguring my phone and losing data every time I decide I "have to" install a new ROM. Very excited for the OTA, whenever it does come. Hopefully all this waiting will bring about a near-perfect, bug-free experience.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I choked and installed the latest SkyDragon, I had to see what L looked like and it's amazing, can't wait to have a 100% stock version of it.
[One (M8) General] scifan:
Lol

I need to try the latest SD version... just haven't had time.
[One (M8) General] walle4893:
LG, Sony and now Samsung rolling out their official update.

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/official-android-lollipop-samsung-galaxy-s5-poland/

Your move, HTC!
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
I cannot do that must resist
[One (M8) General] shasen1235:
Well,now we finally got a stable Lollipop version

On 5.0.1 I can confirm it fixed lots of bugs

No need to be jealous on Samsung or Sony's 5.0 update

Wait until you try the 5.0.1 you will see HTC delayed it for a reason

Now the random lag is gone in my opinion and the apps are not that frequently killed

So far I am glad to use it as daily

Overall performance is much better than Kitkat including browser performance

Hell this is the first time I feel we are that close to iOS

The only thing I miss is Xposed mod,but when it officially support Lollipop I will never go back to Kitkat again:D
[One (M8) General] badboy47:
Aaaaye your move HTC.
[One (M8) General] scifan:
My guess is he knows someone on the team...

I know in the S3 forum, there was someone who had access to Samsung early builds... but based upon how things tended to be handled there, the "leak" appeared to be more concerned about their kernel and baseband getting out...

Whomever HA is getting stuff from apparently isn't afraid of that...
[One (M8) General] Omar1c:
Been on lollipop since the first sky dragon release and I cannot go back to KitKat , lollipopped all my devices .
[One (M8) General] Phascinate:
I thought he said he was going to supply daily status updates? https://twitter.com/moversi/status/539620115839336448?s=09
[One (M8) General] uoY_redruM:
I've been following this thread forever now. I have a T-Mobile M8, and I don't feel like converting, so I have no benefit to reading this ever day. I literally do it just to see some of these guys freak out about why it's not here yet.

I'm mean, I'm extremely impatient. Extremely. Some of these guys are on a whole different level.

I'm just waiting for someone to do this...
[One (M8) General] rquinn19:
All credibility out the window now

That was my point if you look at what they were saying
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Good source considering he scored 5.0.1 gpe rom