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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] andyf1:
Installation problems on M3100

I tried to install this on my M3100 and have hit a problem... maybe somebody can help?

First of all, I made a full backup of my device with Sprite backup, and then I installed the application.

This all went well, but after installing I realised that I'd left two unread text messages in the inbox of the old messaging application, and these were still showing in the unread count but I had no way of reading/removing them.

No problem I thought... So I restored the backup from just before the install, and deleted the unread messages.

However, now whenever I try to reinstall the Palm Messaging app it gives me an error along the lines of that the application does not have sufficient privelidges to be installed, and then fails.

On further reading this probalem appears to be with the app being uncertified, but that makes no sense in a way as it installed fine before I reinstalled the backup.

Any ideas what I can do to reinstall apart from a hard reset? :-(

Andy.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
Sounds like you did a restore without doing a hard reset. I think that leaves existing files on your device such as the previously installed Palm Messaging. The easy solution is to hard reset, restore, then install Palm Messaging again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] craigiecraigie4:
can anyone tell me how long this app keeps messages for? does it keep the raw db of messages, or just the 'conversation' text file?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] 100thMonkey:
so are any Hermes users experiencing any abnormalities with SMS or MMS in any ways using Beta4?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yak86:
Using the Beta 4 on a TyTN. Works great using SMS. Haven't use it for MMS. Why? Have you been experiencing problems?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gtmaniak:
Palm Messaging Shows 3 unread

Ok, I installed Palm Messaging. I guess I had 3 text messages that I hadn't read before I installed it.

Now my device says 3 unread, but when I click on it... it goes to Palm messaging and it is empty.

Is there any way for me to go and delete what it thinks is unread in the old message inbox?

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] digitalfx:
Unless you have a backup, you will need to hard reset and start over. If you have a backup, restore, delete all messages and reinstall the app.

http://ppcgeeks.com/palm-threaded-messaging-for-the-tytn-working-mms-t1244,start,30.html
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] 100thMonkey:
Yeah, I had a few with Beta 1, epsecially linking MMS from other apps like pics and vids, contacts, and PI
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gtmaniak:
That's the response I was expecting...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gtmaniak:
I found a cure by accident. I installed SPB Diary from http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/diary/?en

This software puts a lot of info on the Today screen in tabs. One of the tabs is Text Messages, and it pulls the OLD text messages. I was able to read the 3 OLD unread messages that was showing on my phone even though I use Palm Messaging.

All better, no hard reset. And no loss of messages :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ajhard:
can someone pm me the cab file please...?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
Works a treat on the TyTN

Have a TyTN with the SA WWE ROM 1.35.255.2

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My friend sent me the files so dunno which version it is.

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Message Sending/Receiving lag issue:

Options>Chats I have Only if I have replied checked

For those having MMS problems:

Be sure to add your MMS.GATE.WAY.ADDRESS:PORT in Options>Advanced

Be sure to point to the proper connection [I placed MMS related connection settings in My Work Network so I point to it]

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Mapping the Inbox Key [HW] to Palm App:

At first no matter what I did the HW key sent me to the old OS inbox, I decided to fiddle with the Registry and manually edit the key itself so even the icon is changed.

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Original Values [Keypress = OS Inbox]

Edited Values [Keypress = Palm Messaging app]

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hope this helps
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] slam damnit:
sorry to be lame. would someone pls PM me a working link?

I grabbed the first version the day it was out - worked great. on a new 8525 now, would love beta 4.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
slam pm me ur email addy.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] taguapire:
MMS and Adding recorded media

Hi,

I have a TyTN and Installed Beta 4 Palm Threaded message System. All works fine, sendng a receiving SMS and MMS, but... when I try to record an audio, its returns and error: Sound system can't be accesed.

How I can fix it?

Regards,

Taguapire
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
when I tried the add media>record new sound i get cannot find recbar.dll error

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maybe you can record the media and then attach it for sending as a work around
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HurricaneDj:
Working!!!

Ok, I got the Palm Threaded SMS to work on my Universal (Qtek ROM)

I installed .CAB, and copyed the 13files to /Windows.

At first I was having the "Hang in the Inbox problem"

Then I deleated the Palm Messeging folder and all its contents, soft reset, and Vuala!!!

No lag at all>>>> I send to my wifes Razor and Bling"! I get her reply rite away (Threaded)..... I reply from the thread, and BLING!!! she gets it rite away!!!!

My T-Mobile settings are:

Message cent # +12063130004

Email: 500

MMS Gateway: 216.155.165.50:8080

MMS URL: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms

The Internet

Thanks for all the help!

:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] andycormier:
Arg looks like I just missed this app :(. Does anyone have a working link they could PM me or could flat out send me the cab if I PM them my email? I would GREATLY appreciate it. Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HurricaneDj:
OK, I copied the 13 files to windows, and deleated the palm messaging folder, and contents...

Threaded SMS is working flawlessly!

MMS seems to close the program when I try to send...

Also, when I try to open the camera from the old MMS application, it closes that aswell/

DID I screw up copying the files to /windows folder???

I have the latest Qtek ROM on my Universal....

Should I hard reset and re-install the .cab without copying the files????

:eek: `
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jcb_home:
Need Cab fil

Can someone email me the cab file so I can test this.

banefire@gmail.com

Thanks much
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
If the latest Qtek ROM is > AKU 2.3 you shouldn't need to copy over the 13 rom files. It sounded like it fixed your sms delay problem though. What AKU is that ROM?

One of the rom files is pimgdll.dll that fixed Insert-Picture in poutlook tmail app. That might be messing with your camera app. Try renaming that dll and soft reset to see if it works then.

Also MMS via Palm Messaging only works on Hermes devices at this time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HurricaneDj:
my rom is:

1.30.77 WWE

Date: 2/20/06

Radio: 1.09.00

Protocal: 42.42.p8

ExtRom: 1.30.176 WWE

MMS dosnt seem to be working correctly with the old MMS app either////

Maby I will Hard reset to pre Palm app, and re install without the 13 file copy......???

Everything else seems to be working fine...except for no SMS alert sound, but that seems common...

What do you think?

\Hurricane
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
i get sms notifications as long as i close the last conversation i am in [just press ok till you are @ today]. are you sure your mms settings are correct?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Cakez:
Can someone PM me a working link also.

I had a treo 650 and i found this method of message alot easier and more organized. like each person has thier own folder type, unlink the TYTN that just has all of your inbound messages together
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Rock3nrenigade:
Ok, I got the beta 3 download from PPCGeeks but I cant seem to find a download to Beta 4... anyone want to e-mail me or PM me a link for the download?

Thanks

Jgreene(at)Macsnack.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] slimsaturn:
i'ld like a copy too. john.c.crick@gmail.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Mindflayer:
Me, too!

mindflayer@gmail.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HurricaneDj:
Yes, i too get visual notifications but no audio///

And TEXT (Sms) works great, but no MMS (Pic/Video) even from original app/

Guess i will hard reset and retry, this week/// without the 13 file copy over///

:cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yak86:
dig deeper into the ppc geeks forum ;-)

(there's a few ppl you need to PM to get the file)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] slimsaturn:
I am no longer getting vibrating notifications for any type of messages. Is is someone annoying. Also when I reset my device after installing I had a TM what was erased from the memory, so now it constantly shows 1 message. Anyway to fix this?

**EDIT** Per another posters note I used Pocket Breeze to Delete the hanging message. Lets see if that fixes my notifications..I don;t think it has. Just got one and nothing...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
The in app notifications work fine on my treo 700wx. Have you tried selecting different tunes to play for the notification?

Go to Start-Settings, select Sounds & Notifications, select Notifications tab, select Event: "Messaging: New Message (Palm...". Make sure Play sound is checked and any other boxes you want checked. Pick the sound you want.

Note also that if you have PocketMax's phonealarm app installed it intercepts the notifications and you won't get in app audible alerts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
when you install this you have to go into your start>settings>sounds and notifications and choose to have this vibrate, its off by default
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HurricaneDj:
I have gone in and checked notifications, and I get no vibrate or audio...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
have you tried using the default sounds in windows [i.e. notify.wav]? even these don't work?? hmm this is really odd.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
make sure your phone isnt set to silent (the speaker icon at the top with an x by it) in order for it to vibrate you will need to set the phone on either vibrate or sound, and if you want the message to play sound and vibrate then you will need to have the sound on
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] taguapire:
Hi,

When I installed BETA 4 I get no sound too, but I reconfigure Sound Events and it worked again. But I must says that the TXT MSG event is not the same that Palm Threaded TXT MSG event. Take care about it.

Regards,

Taguapire.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] grkn:
Mr

What's the name of this app? "Palm messaging"?

Anyhoodle I'd like one too, johanknu at gmail . com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bobstarina:
I have the same question

Is it possible to provide some sort of parameters to this application to start a new message at program start?

I want this option to implement "New SMS Message" item in WM5NewMenu program...

Please help.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HurricaneDj:
Alright> so, I tried a hard reset/install cab beta4 without any moving of 13 files...... NO GOOD>:mad: it didnt even take over the txt compleatly, I would still recive txt in tmail. ????

Good thing i did an SPB backup from my first install...

EVEN BETTER!!! now that I have used SPB Backup (First install of Palm app, copy 13 files, delete palm messeging folder from programs)

NOW, I am getting audio/vibrate notifications!!!!! before the hard reset I had none!

Woooh hooooo!

OK, so ill test the MMS settings next (PIC//Vid)

:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
interested in this one as well. let me know if you find anything bobstarina :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mun_rus:
new animated icons!!!

Hi all!

Ive replaced some pictures with mine.

Now we can see animated x-mas theme picture in notifications area when message arrives.

Cab contains 6 pictures for MMS/SMS and reports.

Enoj :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
hi mun_rus! can your cab be uninstalled? how does one revert to the default [contact image] notification?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mun_rus:
Yes, it can be uninstalled.

This cab sets default icons.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] slimsaturn:
Has anyone got MMS to work on Cingular?

I found an article with cingular support with mms settings for a treo 650 but no luck with them....

https://supportcingular.atgnow.com/...MMS)+settings+on+the+PalmOne+Treo+650.#Goto11

I get an error 0X501
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
This might be nothing to do with the Palm Messaging app but since I installed it, the Unread Message count on Today screen shows the wrong number (usually 69) but resets to zero after going into SMS inbox.

btw how do you uninstall it?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sesaru:
Me too!

cesar.alonso@gmail.com ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] malatesta:
Nope. Though I was thinking about that.

I was curious as to where the registry values for this are....do you know?

Also, I don't know the mcn/ecn for Sprint. Well, I think I have sprint's MCN from that link.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gameboy213:
i am using a 6700 on sprint.

I installed and ran exactly as it said.

issues:

-the today shortcut does NOT open the app. It does nothing. I must access it from the start menu.

-it says 1 Unread SMS on the today screen, but there are NO new messages.

-once a messages is sent and a reply is recieved... a chat is started.... any message I SEND after that is not sent for a long long time, 10 - 15 minutes, if ever.... unless I go to outbox and resend. If I do that, ALL of the messages that are in the outbox that should have sent, then send right away.

Others are seeing this issue on the treo vx and x over at treocentral. Hope there is a fix soon!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] coorey:
well malatesta i know if anyone can go in and find out the info it is you. i need to get the numbers working on my 6700 as well. . . so when you find out how to get it working properly will you posto n here or su
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cosmo:
Anyone know how to link the contact details SMS option to the new messaging program?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] malatesta:
Weird, here I differ in my experience: my today plugin jumps right to the Palm inbox and it currently says "No unread text messages" like it should.

lol

Definitely. Though first I need some pizza and then whiskey then I'll head to "work" on this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] brandouno:
samsung i730

Tried installing to samsung i730 WM5, but install fails every time. Will this run on verizon sammy i730?

Thanks for the work ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] andason:
location of emailcenter number and messagecenter number strings in registry

HLM\SOFTWARE\PALM\MESSAGING\PREFS
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] malatesta:
awesome. thanks for that!

okay, now i'm not sure if I put in Sprint's number like

+1-7044100000

or

1704410000

I'm doing it the second way. The pop up message IS gone now, so that's a start. Though SMS'ing to an email address is not working.

And I'm guessing I'll have to call Sprint about their email center number...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] oo3:
Sup guys...this app works great with 8125.

My only question is how do I change my MMS settings? I can't find it anywhere since it's no longer in my "inbox."
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gameboy213:
Not here. Never has worked. Still reads 1 SMS UNREAD.

And the outbox issue is clearly an application one and not a device specific one. Hopefully one of you wizards can figure it out! I think the app has real promise!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] malatesta:
gah, even with the regedit, the Message center number does NOT stick.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mkjellman:
hey- with the old inbox application i frequently would go through my contacts and find the user i wanted to send a text message too, and open inbox and have it auto add the recipient.

now that i have installed the palm threaded app, when i try to go through contacts to send a text, it composes a email message to the phone number in the contact. any idea how to get my treo to default to the new application instead of the old inbox application?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Pibe38:
Did you by any chance edit the registry as unstructed on the ZIP file? The plugin could be reading from the old app and you may have a new message sitting on it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] oo3:
Yeah that does seem like a problem. Although I've trained myself to go to Messaging to New to Menu then Add Recipient. A couple extra steps but does the same.

I'm still waiting to find out how to set up my MMS on my 8125 now that I have Palm Messaging installed. Anyone?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hay112:
Anyone have some MMS settings that will work for T-Mobile USA?

right now my settings are:

message center number +12063130004

email center number: blank

mms gateway address: 216.155.165.050

mms url: http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms

network profile: t-mobile mms
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mmorisa:
Hi All,

I've tried the prog and it works OK.

SMS and MMS work fine. For MMS, just manual edit the setting obtained from your operator. Very simple.

I've one not so good comment about this prog. Whenever I replied a message under threaded message, the typed characters is hidden underneath the in-screen keyboard or underneath the Letter-recognizer input panel.

Can anyone confirm this and help find a solution.

TQ and regards,

morisa
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] oo3:
Yeah I tried to manual edit, but when I went to the Cingular website to get the MMS settings, it was stating to enter in things that the manual settings didn't have. All I see in manual settings are Message center number, email center number, MMS gateway address and URL.

Cingular has Gateway (wireless.cingular.com), Port (80), Server address (http://mmsc.cingular.com). It doesn't say anything about MMS gateway address.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Lvballer06:
no setting is needed in the mms gateway address spot...or at least not for sprint. :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mmorisa:
Hi oo3

I will try to help you like below;

Message center number: (put in your sms center number)

Email center number: (put in your email center number)

MMS gateway address: wireless.cingular.com:80

or use IP address like this: 66.209.11.32:80

MMS URL: http://mmsc.cingular.com

Network profile: select MMS setting

That's all and for me with DiGi as my operator, everything works just fine.

Please try and report your findings back here.

Regards

morisa
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] darkjedi:
What's the e-mail center number for Cingular? Or is it even needed?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Griffy wiffy:
Hi Guys,

this program is fantatic!!!!!!!!

BUT i have a problem and have read the thread but cant find the answer anywhere.

I have a TYTN and use microsoft 'PUSH' email. now after a soft reset i get and error 'cannot execute \windows\messaging.exe'. Now push dosnt work

any ideas !

other wise i will have to uninstall the app as i need push email. this would be a shame as its a great little app !

thanks for any help in advance
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
yes, i was able to get cingular MMS working on this app.

MMS gateway = wireless.cingular.com

MMS url = [URL="http://mmsc.cingular.com:80"]http://mmsc.cingular.com:80[/URL]

Network profile MEdia Net
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HurricaneDj:
I would try SPB pocket plus, it gives you alot of options on what you can show in today and start menu>
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] JayC3:
Does anyone have a working link that they could PM me ? Or could send me the cab if I PM them my email? I would really appreciate it. Thanks. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bobstarina:
One more question...

One more question about this program.

Have anybody the ability to start creating a new text message to person by choosing "Send SMS" from the "Contacts" application.

When I choose this option from menu in Contacts nothing happens!

Is it possible to solve this problem?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
MMS

it's a while since i installed this and followed the thread but....can this app send MMS yet? I am on Vodafone UK
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] taguapire:
Work for me, I'm not Vodaphone user, but is working.

Regards,

Taguapire.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
ok, thanks for that. i'll re-check voda settings
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] zohaer21:
hi

can some one PM or email me this little app?

(zohaer@gmail.com)

TIA
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] taguapire:
Try a hard reset an install Beta 4 again without copy files to Windows directory.

I have Tytn too and work with push mail without any issue.

Regards,

Taguapire.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] moisha:
where is the .cab

If we can't keep the file here, maybe someone could post a .cab or the app name, so we can google it somewhere else, please >>>
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MacHooligan:
Second that....or if someone can send me the .cab as an Xmas present I'd be a very happy chap!

Airdrie1977(at)mac.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mightyeric:
I believe what you're looking for is:

palm_messaging_preaku23_beta4_210.zip
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MacHooligan:
Ok, I have the .cab file & the read me instructions.

Thanks to the two posters that took the time to email it over.

I'm very new to WM5 & the Vario is my first device, which I've had for two weeks. Stuff like this below (from the read me file) makes me feel ill! :eek:

'Beta4 note:

There are some rom files that need to be overridden and require you to use total commander or

Resco Explorer to force them into \windows dir. These files will be installed to

\Program Files\Palm Messaging\. Copy them to \Windows and say yes to the scary warnings that

you may damage your device by doing so.

The uninstall will not remove these files so if you want to back out you will need to rename

them, perform a soft reset and then remove them.

The files that are overriding rom files are:

htmlnote.dll

mailtrns.dll

mdsmailsvc.dll

MsgMnuExt.dll

MsgMnuExt_enUS.dll

poutlook.exe

tkitapp.exe

tmail.exe

tmailutl.dll

tmarshaller.exe

tpcutil.dll

webview.dll

pimgdll.dll'

Is there anyone out there that has this successfully installed the palm threaded SMS app onto their Vario II that could take the time to print a VERY simple step by step installation instructions for newbie types?

I really want this on my machine but the fear of it going wrong & having to spend hours coming through threads trying to find of the problem will probably keep this .cab sitting on my desktop where it's been for the past few days. :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
i found this link from an arabic site.. i downloaded it but i have not tried it yet (thank you google for translating the page!)

(link removed)

i can not garuantee the contents of this zip yet since i am at work right now.. but this is what i found anyway, if someone wants to try it and report back let me know whether its a good file or not

Admin edit: Link removed, the link linked directly to software, due to complaints from palm we were advised to remove this link.