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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mightyeric:
This app works great - only one issue. The new SMS event is a different system event than the default WM5 new SMS trigger. Thus, my profile manager (WinMobileApps Phone Profile) cannot change the notification sound for the Palm event, only changing it for the standard event.

1. Is there any way to tie 2 registry keys together so that when one changes the other will change as well?

2. Is there another very light (free?) profile manager that is customizable enough to specify the registry key(s) changed?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
now i did have issues installing this, it would get towards the end and fail for insufficient permissions, i had to use a seperate task manager and kill the tmail process in order to get this to install...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
i read the readme in the zip file and it states those instructions are for roms that are earlier than aku2.3, if you have an aku2.3 or higher device you dont have to jump through those hoops
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yak86:
he means:

1) Send the .CAB file to your Device. If your on a mac, which you seem to be, you can either use bluetooth (Bluetooth Menu Bar Icon>Send File) or use Missing Sync by MarkSpace.

2) Now click your Windows Icon>Programs>File Explorer and look for the file. If you used Bluetooth to send the file, it should be in your My Documents.

3) Open the file

4) Follow the directions. I believe it will tell you to restart your device. Just click OK. And you're done!

:-)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MacHooligan:
Thats's the kind of thing I'm after! :D

One last question before I go ahead with this...

How do I know if I have an aku2.3 or higher device??

I'm using a newly purchased Vario II by the way.

Many thanks to everyone that's helped me out on this. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
go to start, settings, system, about and look at the build.. see attached image
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MacHooligan:
Can anyone explain why the .cab file doesn't seem to show up on my device?

I've installed it in the usual way (via USB & missing sync) but I can't see the file anywhere via file explorer, even after a soft reset.

It seems like it somehow hasn't installed properly as normally missing sync will always ask me to OK a file at installation...for some reason it's not doing that with this .cab.

Anyone any idea? It's driving me mad!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] koolhand79:
Can someone get me this app so i can try it out. koolhand79@gmail.com thanx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
why dont you read back about a page?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mashi:
Why i got Inbox and Inbox(1) ?

i did change MMS1 to MMS1.old and SMS to SMS.old
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Dukas:
Just downloaded the app and install.

It works smoothly on my TyTN.

The only catch during the installation is to follow the instructions and not to forget the SR at the end.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mjizzy:
MMS Settings

Before I installed the app, I went to check my MMS account settings. There was one account for 'Cingular MMS'. However, to my surprise, there was a second account called 'Default' with the following settings:

MMS Gateway: 63.73.9.22 Port: 9201

MMS url: http://vxpix.com/servlets/mms

Network Profile: My ISP

Does anyone else have this account? Is this fishy? I'm unsure but I don't have a good feeling about it. Also, after installing the palm app, 'Default' is still an option under Network Profile but I can't find any other evidence of it existing on my device.

Any help would be much appreciated.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yak86:
I'm not sure how you installed it. Try mounting your device on your mac and just copying the CAB over to it. I've never used Missing Syncs cab installer feature as I hear it's really buggy. Once on your device, open in file explorer and run it.

Someone mentioned a Inbox & Inbox1, Messaging & Messaging1. I think it's just a bug. They both open the same thing. You can remove one of them in Windows/Start Menu/Program Files
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
The Default account is there as a guide for people to input their MMS settings. It's usually included in MMS accounts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] koolhand79:
This app works great on my 8525, just installed the cab and everything worked like a charm. sms and mms works perfect with no hang ups at all.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] marisa4755:
Is this the same application?

http://www.4winmobile.com/portal.php?topic_id=4241

if not, has anyone used both? and can you compare?

thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] taguapire:
Hi,

Is not the same app. it is a clone, but I did't used it yet, looks good.

Regards,

Taguapire.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jcb_home:
Just tried this app. It requires that you load .NET Framework 2.0 SP1 on your phone for it to work.

I loaded .NET and reset my phone and loaded this little app. I works fine as long as you leave it running in the backround. If you stop the app when a new SMS comes in you will receive an error and loos all your SMS in the phone. It has an option to have all your messages go to both TxtMan and the standard messaging client. Didn't work.

This app works ok for what is was designed for -- an addon not a replacement for the built in messaging.

Hope this helps you out.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] marisa4755:
Thanks very much for that, I'm not feeling very brave at the mo about trying out new unsupported apps!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] omega2008:
I just installed it and it works great. It was a bit tricky for Cingular MMS, when you put in the URL at the end you had to add :80 for the port number.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] trjons:
I'm noticing extremely slow upload times with an MMS sent through this application. Anyone else on Cingular noticing the same?

I have the following settings:

Message center number: +12099042020

EMail center number: 32645

MMS gateway address: 66.209.11.32:80

MMS URL: http://mmsc.cingular.com

Network Profile: My ISP
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
make these changes

MMS gateway remove the :80 on that one

MMS URL http://mmsc.cingular.com:80

also network profile should be MEdia Net
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jwmcgee1:
Does anyone know where I can still find this app? I love it on my Cingular 750 and would like to put it on my Cingular 8525.

Thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Rock3nrenigade:
PM me your email address Ill send it off to you.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jwmcgee1:
Thanks, done!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] JayC3:
Hi,

Did anybody got the Palm messaging app working with the dash or blackjack? Or will it work with any WM smartphone edition, rather than the PocketPC Phone edition? Thanks. :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
It works on the dash for sure. I'm not sure about the blackjack.

Ref: http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=130497
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] JayC3:
Thanks ! I'll try it on the blackjack once I get my hands on it :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Dukas:
I used this application for few days now.

It is VERY convenient for someone who use many SMS for different destination.

Finally I decided to remove it since it does not work well with the Hebrew support for WM5.

Accessing the contact list (and moving around) is soooooooo slooooow while working in BiDi mode (English UI with Hebrew support).

Switching to full UI Hebrew support cure the problem.

Since I'm using my device with English UI, but still need the Hebrew support (BiDi mode) I can't effort myself keeping this great app :-(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] nickdavid:
any chance i could get that cab file please???

nick@nickdavid.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] dynamicd:
working with contact list and camera?

has anyone figured out a way to have sent a sms from the contact list and a mms from the camera? thanks in advance...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Dukas:
Nick,

Check your mail.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jwmcgee1:
I would appreciate it if someone would email me the app.

okccowboy(at)cox(dot)net

Thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ercave1:
Check your email.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jwmcgee1:
Thanks, I appreciate it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] j ride 81:
can someone please e-mail the app to bgftbl81(at)aol(dot)com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] monx®:
excuse me, could anybody teach me how to make the sms notification shows the sender's pic only?

thanx in advance..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] zoocat:
I'd sure appreciate it if someone could toss me a copy at mobile(at)zoocat(dot)com.

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] baypdauser:
Can someone please help me out. I have an 8525 on Cingular and have installed the beta 4 cab, resco explorer, and resco registry editor. I have followed the steps, all the way to copying and pasting the files in the window directory. When I try and paste the 13 files however, it says "a system file named 'htmlnote' already exists". When I agree to replace it, it says "Cannot copy 'htmlnote'; Access is denied. Make sure the disk is not full or write-protected and the file is not currently in use". I followed each step very carefully. I did a hard reset, made sure no programs were running, installed resco's, then cab, then copy, but I can't paste the 13 files.

I would appreciate any help that you can offer with this. I am at about 6 hours of reading through multiple sites and can't figure it out. The SMS seems to work though, kind of, I can't send SMS to an email address anymore. I also have two messaging inboxes (inbox, and inbox(1) in my programs menu.

What am I doing wrong. Sorry, I am not very computer savvy, although I try to keep up. I just really miss this feature from my treo 700p and would really like it to work on my 8525.

Thank you (sorry for the long post)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mightyeric:
No file copy needed on 8525. Install cab, one registry edit (mms1.old), reset. That's it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] aarman:
I'' appreciate if someone can email the cab file to aarman(at)nc.rr.com

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cndags:
Threaded sms app

can anyone please send me the app too? cndags(at)yahoo(dot)co(dot)uk

does this work in wm2003se? i'm using benq p50. anyone know of a benq p50 wm5 rom? english.

thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ercave1:
You mean SMS.old... this is in the event that one decides to uninstall the palm app and revert to the device's original SMS app. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] chigwa:
The app

hi please could someone send me the app

chigwa(AT)gmail(dot)com

thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] AlexXF:
Can someone mail this cab file to htc(at)mailutilities.com ?

THANKS!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] eleazar123:
i hate to add on to this list of beggars for the app...but seeing as how i can't find the app anywhere... could anybody throw it my way :) dark.mail(at)gmail.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Antboy:
I'd love to check this out too... b.antboy(at)gmail.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] JuniorPhatFarm:
Last bit of requesters check your mail.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] aloshka:
one more begger, please!

I know there are a ton of beggers, but one more please. To aloshka(at)gmail.com.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] URPREY:
Me too! urprey at gmail.com

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] philnhot101:
can someone re-up this file forme please i flashed my rom and i lost this app on my computer
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] copualt3:
http://file2upload.com/file/10742/palm-messaging-beta4-210-zip.html
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] AlexXF:
Thanks, received.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] philnhot101:
thank you soo very much we need a reputation thing so i could show you my appreciation lol
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bobstarina:
Interesting discovering

Well guys! At least I found a startup parameter for this application which can guide this app to start in new SMS message mode (I need this for WM5NewMenu item "New SMS").

For doing this you have to run \Windows\messaging.exe -newsms

Hope this information will help somebody.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] lacroixdp:
I tried the application, but I'm having some issues with it. I show on my Today screen that a new text message was received. However, when I click on it, their is no text message visible. If I go into the old text message system, it shows up there. This is after renaming the SMS registry folder to sms.old. Any ideas?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jamesus:
When you installed the new SMS program, all text messages in the old program needed to be read. If there was any that were unread, then this problem happens.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] lacroixdp:
I completely cleared all the old text messages out - I thought that might be it too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ercave1:
What device were you installing this on? Could you export the Svc keys from your registry so I can look at them for you?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] lacroixdp:
I think I might have fubar'd it up just now. I reinstalled it so I could pull a copy of the registry, but I forgot to rename the old SMS folder >< I am still getting text messages in the old folder, but they aren't showing up in the palm program, even if I have it opened up. Here's the registry key after the Palm app is installed. This is going on a HTC Hermes w/ the South African ROM. Thanks! :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
try renaming it again and then do a SR. this is what i did when i suddenly received messages in the default inbox again.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] maxcasio:
Spb Diary and Palm Messaging

I installed the palm messaging software. It works fine but I can not make it work under Spb Diary today view. On the diary, it still show old sms not new sms. anyone know how to fix this? Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] lacroixdp:
Do I need to reinstall it after I rename the SMS folder?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
I did not re-install. It just stopped using the default messaging service.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
when i try and send a mms i get delivery failed error 0x88 and something about an unsupported version? is this caused by the Palm app or something else?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] lacroixdp:
Well I got it working finally! I just had to reinstall it and then delete the SMS key - it works like a charm now!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] GermanGuy:
Cingular and Palm Messenger application

Anybody else here that, at times, does not receive SMS messages using the Palm Messaging application on the Cingular 8525, or am I the only one? I don't see my old SMS folder, so I assume that's not were the missing SMSs are going. I have the latest beta installed. Just for kicks, I changed my SMS registry to old, but then I was not able to send or receive any txt messages, so i changed it back.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] kcchen:
No problems here... well that I'm aware of....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] vchoang:
Palm Messaging App

Does anyone know how to delete the entries in the quicklist? I would appreciate any help on the matter.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] shogunmark:
I have this problem once in a great while.. doesnt happen often, but it does happen.... but then again.. its only a beta app...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] slam damnit:
Config for cingular..

Hey, guys..

I'm having some trouble configuring the app on my cingular 8525. I used the settings they provide on their support site, to no avail. I get no error; the message just never arrives.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] slam damnit:
Button assignment

I also can't seem to assign the messaging button to the app - I assigned it to "messaging" as opposed to "inbox" but it only opens the legacy app.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bnycastro:
Check here [Post #346]

Map Inbox button to palm Messaging
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] chefjq:
Please I dont want to a begger but can someone email the app, chefjesseq@gmail.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Gibby:
Can someone please PM me if they have this app available to share?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] coolcut:
I am also interested in obtaining a copy of this app.

Plz PM me or

coolcut(at)rogers(dot)com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] BlackAdam:
I have looked everywhere but to no avail... if anybody knows where I can get a copy, please share.

blackadam@gmail.com
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mightyeric:
it does seem to be available on rapidshare here:

http://rapidshare.com/files/20822516/palm_messaging_preaku23_beta4_210.zip.html
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] HunterST:
Runs fine on my Cingular 8525

Here's how I got mine working on my 8525, here in Austin TX:

1) run the .cab, Soft Reset.

2) edit the registry to rename HKLM/Software/MS/Inbox/SVC/MMS1 to MMS1OLD, Soft Reset. Otherwise you still see MMS if you click your email hard button a second time.

3) Go into new SMS app, Menu, Options, Advanced:

Msg Center#: +12099042020

Email Center#: 121 <--this lets you send sms's to email addresses

MMS gateway address: 66.209.11.32

MMS URL: http://mmsc.cingular.com

Network Profile: MEdia Net

4. Delete Start Menu/Programs/Inbox(1) folder.

That's it - works GREAT. Hope this helps!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] slimsaturn:
Maybe we should get a carrier section of the wiki. to help people when they reflash....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] dondoola:
can someone please send me the app too

I really want it dooladon@yahoo.com thanks in advance
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] PhonePhun:
This is a neat little app and seems to work great on my 8525 so far. Yes there are a few things about it that are not available that we are used to, but we all have to take the good with the bad sometimes. So on that note, anyone figured out how to get the notification light to blink orange? :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mightyeric:
Mine works just fine. In Sounds and Notifications -> Notifications tab -> scroll Event down to Messaging: New Message (Palm) -> and check the Flash Light tickbox.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] PhonePhun:
Thank you, thought I had checked those settings.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] intrglctcrevfnk:
Well, I applied these settings on my 8525 and it's not working for me... just stays in the palm app's outbox and never sends... it seems like it would have worked, the initial settings were for a sprint mms oddly enough. The SMS has worked fine since day 1, but I want mms to work through this app.... so ill get to the point.

Does anyone know if there are area specific gateway/IP protocols on cingular? I'm in Memphis, TN and am wondering if that's why they are not sending through this app. Any thoughts HunterST?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] intrglctcrevfnk:
well it sort-of-half-way-worked...

OK... here's a funny update... a few minutes after I posted the previous reply I changed my connection settings in the advanced tab on the palm app to My ISP instead of MEdiaNet (that was recommended) and I sent a MMS through the Palm app to myself. I just got it back from the network, so it worked, but It was read my the microsoft MMS inbox program.... any thoughts??? how would I get it to go into the palm app?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] xultar:
Message centre number - +13123149870

email center number - 121

MMS gateway address - wireless.cingular.com

Network profile MEdia Net

I've also seen Cingy's message centre number as

+13123149810

+14047259015

+13123149870

+16363848815
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] intrglctcrevfnk:
So you get the MMS through the palm app? Using the settings given before I was able to send a message, but when I received it back it was delivered to the MS MMS Inbox. Therein lies my problem....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] PhonePhun:
I think mine was going to the original MMS box until I did this reg edit.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Scrog:
How do you get to the old SMS inbox (somehow during install, I missed a new message, now its 'stuck' in old system). Shows up on reboot as new message, but no new message is in the palm app.

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] PhonePhun:
Yes, I am getting that same problem also once and awhile.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tech.junkie:
hi guys. i installed this on my WM6 real/true-VGA dopod 900 / HTC universal & it worked!

weird thing though is when i copy all files (13) from \Program Files\Palm Messaging over to \Windows on my device, i get errors. i cant open my phone app & i cant connect to my mobile phone operator.

whereas when i dont copy d files to windows & leave them at d \Program Files\Palm Messaging folder, it works fine & good.

any1 else experience d same?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] intrglctcrevfnk:
Ya know, I did that reg edit and i guess it took a couple of soft resets to get it to stick, but now my outlook style mms is gone. So I guess that just leaves getting the settings right in the program to work....

PS... So I think i might need a hard reset soon... does this program stay intact through the reset? I figured since im aku 2.3 it wont (b/c of no need to copy files) Whaddathink?

PPS - WINDOWS MOBILE 6 is to be released for Cing 8525! WooHoo! I just hope this palm app will work after the rom upgrade...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] PhonePhun:
MMS and SMS are now handled with the palm messaging program. Only the email boxes are left in the list in the original txt folders list. I've had no problems using this since I installed it except for a few missed txt msgs.

This weekend I tried installing it on an 8125 and could not get MMS to work at all so we ended up having to do a hard reset since this program does not uninstall . No matter on doing the hard reset as it cleared up a few other problems so it was a good thing. Nothing survives a hard reset, so be prepared for that. It will be just like it was when you took it home.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] V J:
Hello,

What functionality is gained for emails? More specifically, I'm hoping to solve these issues:

1. specification of imap root folder

2. selection of account via which a mail is sent (I need different sentmail servers depending on my connection, a manual choice like one has in all Windows clients would help me a lot).

So, are these things possible with the app?

Thanks!

Jörg
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Scrog:
From what I saw, for our devices, you don't need to copy the files over, just install the .cab.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sickchilly:
Looks like a Beta. Is that really the latest version floating around?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sheirejd:
can someone please pm me the app
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jamesus:
try ipmart
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] trjons:
Adding a :80 after the MMS URL greatly increased the speed of sending pictures.