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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] spiderman09:
Messaging Notification

I have found a few references to the lack of notification of SMS. I use a Tytn and has anyone figured a work around? It is pretty aggravating to not have any idea when these messages come in. I have set notification settings in the sound and events settings and i think its set correctly... Otherwise this program rocks...

BTW is anyone using the palm contacts program? I hear it assigns ring tones..

Jason
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] richy240:
I'm personally not impressed with the Palm Messaging app. The fact that it entirely takes over the default messaging app is unacceptable. On the other hand, if it would give access to email it would be awesome!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] medmansri:
Could someone send me the install file please??? thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] medmansri:
Could someone send me the install file please?? thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] craigiecraigie4:
Hell, I JUST missed this download - was deleted on 19th.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
It's still available for download at ppcgeeks.com.

http://ppcgeeks.com/threaded-sms-is-working-update-10-29-t978.html

See the HowTo doc. If your device is pre-AKU2.3 you'll need to perform the manual steps to copy some system files over to \windows. For AKU2.3 and later all you have to do is install the cab and then remove the \Program Files\Palm Messaging\ folder and its contents.

There are other useful tips at TC here, but it's mainly geared to pre-AKU2.3 devices.

http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=126832
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] URPREY:
Check out the Treo 700w/wx section at www.ppcgeeks.com for the thread and latest download...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] craigiecraigie4:
Hi guys, I worked thro that thread and the first post links to a rapidshare file that has reached it's limit for free downloads. I can;t find any other links in that massive thread.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] darkjedi:
I found a small little bug on the TyTN; when you get a text, and you click reply, and pull out the keyboard, and start typing, it goes right to the desktop, instead of the app. But when you go back in, the text you already wrote, is there. No big deal, just annoying I guess.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] medmansri:
Thanks a lot of the info! I've got it working I think.

What settings do I need to change for T-mobile?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] craigiecraigie4:
Hey guys - this seems pretty kewl. Not enuff messages in yet to fully grasp the usage. A few questions I'd appreciate input on:

I used preAKU23_beta3. Is this OK?

Instructions suggest overwriting the \Windows items. However, I'm finding it all working OK on a Universal (AKU3.2 kitchen ROM).

I installed on the device, can I remove and re-install in extended ROM. Other posts seem to suggest that uninstall doesn'twork.

I don't get the VJslippyPalm requirement. If I press the mail key on my keyboard, I get into tmail (poutlook) and can do emails. Else use a tmail shortcut. Otherwise SMS's all seem to work thro threaded SMS.

Is there an SMS reliability issue? VJ seems to allude to one.

I may have to concur with VJ that v.mail SMS notifications are not coming thro for some reason. Anyone know why? It's an SMS after all...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] craigiecraigie4:
solved the v.mail sms (if it ever truly existed - not sure): under phone/options i set the v.mail number to 111 instead of 100 (in SA both work). ot i gt v.mail sms's & i definiely missed one before doing this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
excuse my ignorance but is AKU2.3 the ROM release? How do I find out what mine is? I have a Tytn

thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] darkjedi:
You have AKU2.3.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
So ican load this version of the Messaging app? I had an earlier version and I suspect I have been losing some SMS messages although it's hard to tell.

Do I uninstall the previous version?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] iKelvin:
Anyone figured out how to fix virtual keyboard blocking input field?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mccune:
I think it's just in the program. Palm didn't need to make the text field move up because of the external keyboard of the 750v. So I stopt using the program, since I can't see what I'm typing :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
don't find it a big problem as you can't touch type on a soft keyboard so it is slow but you make few errors. just pop the KB down every so often to check what you've written. or use the hard KB?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] iKelvin:
What a shame about popup SIP blocking text being entered :( Hopefully one day someone can figure out a way to fix this. A job well done to the folks for porting this out of Treo :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Southbay_Commuter:
MDA on TM0: MMS wont initiate data session

First off, special thanks to the genious who made this wonderful program available to the rest of us. :)

Now, after reading this entire thread, I've seen several post by MDA and TyTN users who say they got MMS to work with this app on TMo?

I can't for the life of me get MMS "send" to initiate a data session. I've entered the appropriate gateway and IP entries into the application, through ADVANCED/Manual, including creating a new connection under settings called "picturemessaging." <--however, this shouldn't be necessary, if I choose the already existing "TMo Data" in connections?

Nonetheless, with or without the additional modem setting, mms doesn't send, and the modem setting "picturemessaging" doesn't show in the drop down, inside the application either.

Do I need to make an additional reg edit (beyond "mms1.old") to be able to use the Palm App for both sms and mms?

Is there a ".cab" out there that one of you can link me to, so I can apply a reg edit, or whatever, to get mms to work as described above?

I would appreciate a "step by step" (for dummies like me) from anyone with and MDA or TyTN who successfully can send/rec MMS on TMo.

Thank you all for all your insights!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] herofromsomeday:
i am running beta3 on a verizon xv6700. my xv6700 doesnt ring or vibrate when i get a new text message. all that happens is the screen turns on and i get the popup notification.

someone suggested this on treocentral forums:

"Start-settings-sounds and notifications- notifications-

then under Message- new Text message (Palm) - MAKE SURE its the one with (palm) after it!

The settings should be there, and should work. By default mine was silent before I changed it."

i went there and enabled play sound and vibrate, yet it doesnt vibrate and ring still. i have ringo on my phone and when i used the default sms program, my phone had no problem ringing with the ringtone i selected when a new txt message came in.... so whats the problem? thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pinhead:
I am using this program and the latest version seems to not have any problems with sending messages properly. However, if I have the "chat" window open I do not get any audible alert for new messages. I only get audible alerts if that chat is closed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tony71:
there's a problem...no resize when you want to write with virtual keypad...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mccune:
That's not a "problem" since the Treo has a hardware keyboard there is no need to make the program react to the virtual keyboard.

This "problem" was mentioned before tough :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] digitalfx:
I have the same problem.

I installed Beta4 on a Tytn. I simply installed the cab and reset and it works great!!

A few issues I notice are:

1. no sound when new sms arrives and sms screen is open.

2. cant attach images to sms (get the following error on sending- "Message could not be sent. Unsupported message format. (0x88) Operation failed! Version cannot be supported.)

3. all my programs have disappeared from start menu. The only options in settings/menu/ is (2) inboxes, (2) Messaging, and several empty folders

4. also in Start/Programs all my apps are missing (except the same empty folders).

NOTE: all my apps are installed on the card

why are they now missing from Start? How do I get them back?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mccune:
1. It does on my Prophet AKU2.3. Vibrating and sound even with the window open.

2. Is not an error, It's impossible to add pictures to SMS. You have to send a MMS when you wan't to send pictures ;)

3. Looks like your Start Menu location may have changed? For example: Dutch is "Startmenu" English is "Start Menu". All my programms are still there after install.

4. Same as point 3. I did notice that you're in trouble when you change the register values stated by previous instructions. But these only apply to ROM's pre AKU2.3 :) With Beta 4 you just have to install it. Everything should work fine then.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
So digitalfx is reporting success for Palm Messaging MMS sending.

"I changed my "Message Service Number" to +17045020600

"Email Center Number" I left this at 6245 (could not find appropiate Cingular setting)

"MMS Gateway" to wireless.cingular.com

"MMS URL" to http://mmsc.cingular.com

"Network Profile" to My ISP

Now I can add a picture to an SMS and it sends successfully.

Looks like Cingular MMS is working. "
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
Is there anyone here that has a device >= AKU2.3 on the Sprint network that has mms working in the Palm Messaging app?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
Not sure if this was posted already. mrjazz at TC posted a step-by-step to get mms working on Tmobile.

"Finally!! I spoke to a T-Mobile USA level 3 rep and he configured the MMS settings perfectly.

1. Start, Settings, Connections, and then tap the Connections Icon

2. Under "My Work Network" tap Add a New Modem Connection

3. Name it Picture Messaging and under Select a modem select (GPRS,3G)

4. Under Access Point Name type: wap.voicestream.com

5. Username, Password, and Domain is left blank and then click Finish

6. Now, go into Proxy Settings and check "This network connects to the Internet" and check "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the internet"

7. Under the Proxy Server box type: 216.155.165.050

8. Tap the advanced button and tap on the HTTP line. Make sure the HTTP settings shows 216.155.165.050:8080. If not, change it.

9. Click the OK button a few times to get out of the settings completely.

10.Now go to Start, Messaging, Menu, then Options, Advance, then Click Manual, and then the Edit button

11. Message center number +12063130004

12. Email center number is 500

13. MMS gateway address is 216.155.165.050:8080

14. MMS URL is http://216.155.174.84/servlets/mms

15. Finally under Network Profile select: My Work Network and then click ok.

Send yourself a test MMS it should work. Best of luck!"

This seemed to work for several people.

Also crabkilla reported this:

"Ok - after screwing around with the phone for over an hour I figured it out.

I originally followed Mr. Jazz's instructions line for line and the Internet never worked for me. His line #2 says: Under "My Work Network" tap Add a New Modem Connection.

This never works for me. Instead, I setup a connection under "My ISP" NOT "My Work Network".

Proxy and everything else stays the same!"

Good luck.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mviana:
Sorry that I am getting in on this so late, but I have found beta3 for this app. Is this the newest version that is out there? Did I miss one? Will this one "work" with my TyTN?

Thanks for all the hard work in getting this far. New people like me definitely feel grateful for the HARD work a few put in helping make our devices better. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] 100thMonkey:
I think that we will eventually need to hope for someone to work on this for the TyTN in particular because the folks at ppcgeeks that are working on the current betas are really focused on Treo 700's for CDMA2k carriers. We're going to end up with quirks for CDMA devices rather than soemthing that works as it should on our devices
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mccune:
I run Beta 4 on my Prophet and I have no problems with sending or receiving SMS. To bad the screen doesn't resize when I type on my Virtual keyboard. But the programm does rock!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
You can use the ppcgeeks beta3/beta4 on tytn's. Makes no difference which one you choose. Just don't copy over the rom files. Simply run the cab install and you are done.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] kellynsytan:
problem with loox t830

hello. i would trully appreciate it if anyone can help me. my post may be out of place but since this seems to be where inquiries regarding palm messaging app is being answered... here goes. i was successful in installing and configuring my settings for mms in my tytn. but when i did what i did to the loox t830, each time i would try to send mms... it would say out of memory pls close some applications and try again. so i tried the triangle powers sms threader... i was able to set up the mms and successfully send. so i tried it with the nov 6 palm threader app with all the configurations for mms correct, i could not send any and still get the OOM (out of memory) notification. this is really driving me nuts. much worse... i seem to have lost the inbox and just the plain palm messaging app for all. pls help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mviana:
hannip...Just to make sure I understand you correctly, all I have to do is run the .cab file for beta 4 and that's it? I don't have to worry about doing any reg edits(which I'm a little nervous about doing in the first place) or anything like that?

Thanks for the clarification. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
That's interesting. Does the tytn have different AKU levels? Other tytn users claim mms works fine for them. I'm very curious what the difference could be here since preAKU2.3 devices all seem to get this out of memory error when sending mms.

Can you list what your AKU level is? Go to Settings System About and list the OS build. ex. Mine is OS 5.1.195 (Build 14929.2.2.1)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
Yep, just run the cab file. It will make all the necessary reg changes for you.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] kellynsytan:
its OS 5.1.195. Build 14955.2.3.0
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
Ok, that's perfect. You didn't happen to copy the ROM files from the \Program Files\Palm Messaging\ folder to your \Windows folder did you? If you did you'll need to remove them or hard reset and reinstall. Those are only for pre-AKU2.3 devices.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] fantastic_mr_q:
I've been testing my version for almost a month now n up until now its been fine, but its finally given up the ghost. My message app no longer has an outbox, it crashes if I select it and it keeps no record of sent messages. When I send a message the program closes, (message still sends though) but I have no record of it. When I try to delete messages it freezes too. I don't know if something I've installed has caused a conflict, I will post any findings I find on here

Im gonna try this beta 4 thing
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] kellynsytan:
message to hannip

i really appreciate your help and concern. i havent copied the rom files from the palm messaging app to my windows. i cn send mms via built in mms composer of the LOOX t830. i just get an out of memory error when receiving one. where do you think is the problem. due to this frustration, i got a treo 750 for my second phone hehehe. but i would be happier if i can configure mms to be received in my LOOX. by the way, i tried to configure mms via palm messaging app like what i did with my tytn, i just cannot receive. i also tried to leave the mms options in the palm app blank so that it would be forced to use the original mms composer in the LOOX default. still would not work. tnx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] warmkiwi99:
another message to hannip.....

i updated from beta3 to beta4. now i get an entry on Today for SMS which I can't turn off. There is also a "Text Messages" entry which i can turn off in Today-items.

I deleted the keys that change the left menu option to SMS but that didn't remove it. Not vitally urgent but i like to have a small Today screen and the extra SMS one takes up some real estate.

any ideas?

thanks for the great app though :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
The reg changes for the left softkey are:

---------------------

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\112]

@="SMS"

"Open"="\\Windows\\messaging.exe"

---------------------

Just remove them and reset. If that doesn't work you can always do a hard reset and reinstall beta3. The primary change in beta4 was mainly for pre-AKU2.3 devices to copy file pimgdll.dll to \Windows. If you install beta3 and copy that one file from beta4 you essentially have beta4. If you have AKU2.3 or later there is no need to installed beta4. The only thing it will do for those devices is to set the left softkey to select poutlook or the palm app selectively and add a few shortcuts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
That's the first I heard of the OOM error on a mms receive. I really don't have a clue on that one. Without a LOOX to play with I'm not going to be much help.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mviana:
Thanks for the re-assurance hannip. It works great. Just have to figure out how to send/receive MMS messages. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ManLee:
Where may I find beta 4 and spell check?

Hi there. Can someone PM me to let me know where I may download beta 4?

Also, will any of the subsequent versions have a spell check feature and ability to select recipients by clicking on "To:" as does the original default text messaging application preloaded on a Treo 700wx?

(To clarify the above, the original text messaging app that comes pre-loaded on the Treo has a spell-check feature, and the ability to search and select SMS recipients. Beta 3 version from what I have seen does not have a spell-check feature and to add recipients, the right bottom menu must be selected to pull up a menu to allow recipient selection.)

Not that these features are critical to using the new SMS app, as they're secondary to threaded text but if the developer of the app is reading this and is looking for ideas for upgrades, I just wanted to point those two missing features. :)

Thanks and hope to hear from someone soon!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
beta4 can be found at

http://www.ppcgeeks.com/palm-threaded-sms-program-for-wm5-beta-4-update-11-06-t978.html

You need to sign in to see the downloads.

You don't need to use the menu to add recipients. When you start typing in the To: field it will autolookup matches from your contacts.

I don't see a spellcheck feature, but the built in word suggest does work in it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] craigiecraigie4:
Found anything?

I was gonna post that I've been using this for a few weeks and have not found any real issues. Some notes for everyone:

Firstly, it's awesome. Great to have a thread of messages for each user. Main page lists all users with whom a conversation has occured, ranked by name or last message date. It also

seems

to keep an infinate history of conversations

It does a darned good job of threading different numbers eg +2782xxx gets added to 082xxx and all replies. Even if u use iLauncher to start a new SMS, it finds its way to the correct threead - ie u do not have to use the threaded view to write in.

My email and messaging work fine; I open old tmail app for emails (iLauncher shortcut) and threaded SMS for messaging.

All apps I tested that send SMS's work with this. eg VJSMS. So u can have iLauncher "send SMS" shortcuts just fine!

Three issues everyone knows of:

1) You do not get incoming message alert if the app is open in a conversation. This is probably cos it's intended as a chat client. So close it when u r finished - minimised is OK.

2) Secondly, SIP keyboard obstructs writing space - but only if u r using chat window rather than new message. So use hard keyboard or write blind and then close SIP

3) If u close app with SIP open, SIP does not get closed and sits on your desktop. Install a SIp closing shortcut on iLauncher, else re-open messaging and close SIP. truly not ahassle once u understand why SIP is on the desktop

To be very clear, I have not missed ANY SMS's - not even from v.mail. 2 things u need to do to make sure you get SMS's:

1) change your voice mail number under phone/options to something other than the number your sms notification comes in on. In ZA I use 111 which works for v.mail dialing, and my SMS comes from 100

2) u get missed SMS's if u r in a dodge 3G area and phone is battling to switch. This has nothing to do with threaded sms app. If u set it on GSM, and switch to UMTS only when u need it (ball-ache, I know), you will get

much

improved performance all round w.r.t the phone and sms

But stop asking about the developers; This has been ripped from the treo by some awesomely clever dude, and made available to us. Palm are not happy about this, and have asked some sites to remove the download. They are certainly

not

going to fix it up for our SIP keyboard (which the Treo candbay does not use for obvious reasons)

Overall, I'd say "go for it" - it's a no brainer app to have!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
Nice summary craigie!

This is not true for everyone. On the 700wx the incoming sms alerts do sound even when in an open chat conversation. I'm not sure why it isn't working for others.

Also so far it seems only the tytn can send an mms message using the app other than the 750v. Both are at the AKU2.3 level. If there are any other devices that have this working please post.

EDIT: LittlePat at TC has reported that mms works flawlessly on the 8525 which is another Hermes device. It has the same AKU2.3 level. IsLNdbOi reported that mms does NOT work on a Samsung i830w which is at AKU2.6 level. At least we are starting to get a pattern.

We need more reports from the rest of you that have mms working via the Palm Messaging app. Please list your device, AKU level and carrier. Thanks!

So far the list is very short:

tytn AKU2.3 Cingular - reported by darkjedi

8525 AKU2.3 Cingular - reported by LittlePat

Dopod 838pro AKU2.3 Digi w/Cingular mms settings - reported by mmorisa
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] fantastic_mr_q:
ELO! Sorry all been real busy at work. I managed to successfully hard reset my phone at work with no PC and get it to exactly how I wanted it again and I installed Beta 4 and its leaps and bounds above the original rip. Ive had no problems what so ever and as you rightly said I can send texts from anywhere.

The only thing I found that it didnt do was remove MMS from my outlook. I quickly fixxed this with a REGEDIT and all is peachy.

I have been invited to be a moderator at PPCGEEKS.com and given forum for the TyTN/HERMES (What ever incarnation you have) so come on over and say hello if you have a chance? The Beta 4 release is there too.

http://ppcgeeks.com/htc-tytn-f29.html

The Q
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yak86:
works pretty well with the TyTN. THis is sweet. Only problem: anyone know how to change the soft key at the bottom? It changed mine from Calender to SMS, but I use my calender alot so I would prefer to change it back.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hannip:
Don't you get a two item menu when you press the left softkey? One for Calendar and one for SMS?

At any rate the reg changes that affect this are:

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\Today\Keys\112]

@="SMS"

"Open"="\\Windows\\messaging.exe"

You can change it however you like.