yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@LegolasTheElf: I don't believe we will be building PTT into the ROM since it only applies to US Cingular customers. We also won't be building Video calling in for the same reason (only applies to European customers).

However, add-on CABS will be available to provide this functionality. WM6 users who don't want PTT won't need PTTFix as button 5 behaves normally on that platform. WM6 also has a whole new smartdial capability that makes the Cingular smartdialler redundant.

@weinson: I'm running an ultra-clean version of the ROM. My only installed apps are PTTFix, SIPChange, dotFred's taskmanager and GSFinder+
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] taze:
great fix!!! thanks soo much sleuth. works great on aku 3.3

perfect update...now ill i need is WM6:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] tco:
I just installed the latest fix, and this is the behavior that my 8525 is showing....another Job well done sleuth.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rainydaze:
PTT Fix wont install

Hi,

I just tried to install thwe newest PTT-Fix on a generic Cingular 8525 and the installation fails. Has anyone else experienced this? I did a hard reset and was still unable to get it to install, while I have been able to install previous versions. Does anyone have a older version of the cab file?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@rainydaze: install failures are generally due to a corrupted cab file. Lacking more specific information on the nature of your install failure, that is the most I can give you. Search this thread for "corrupted" for more info.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rainydaze:
Corrupted cab

You were correct, I downloaded it from the device and it installed with no problems. Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kiyoshi67:
Thanks Sleuth, got the PTT button fixed with no problems. I even got the voice record working.

I've been without a quick voice record button for the last two phones, so I can't thank you enough! First program I installed on the device.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] clarkxda:
Also ran into install problems. What do you mean "downloaded from device"? Don't we download from somewhere else down to the device? Thanks for any clarification. I appreciate this string.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
use PIE to download by browsing to pg 1 of this thread with your 8525
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mpc:
pttfix

downloaded the fix and its now on the hermes. tapped the file called setup and internet explorer is launched, followed by a brief progress bar. reset the unit; hit ptt button and i still get the no service message...i would love to activate this feature...any suggestions
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
just download the cab from post #1 of this thread using PIE on your 8525 then tap on the downloaded cab itself to setup.

Welcome to the world of Windows Mobile!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] penguins121087:
It will not let me install that file? ne ideas how to fix it it says....The installation ofthe file was not suceful
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@penguins121087: search this thread for "corrupted" to find your answer ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] geedeck:
just wanted to give a quick thanks as otherwise that error screen would have been pita to live with. cheers!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MeHoo:
Hello nice job.

I have been trying to do one thing since i got this phone and its driving me nuts. you solved half of it =]

i wanted to bind the PTT button to rotate screen so i dont have to open the keyboard to go landscape. now, perhaps im just unaware but i cant do this. the command i set it to after installing your fix, "<rotate screen>" rotates it the wrong way lol. now, im running spb mobile shell and it has a button to rotate screen correctly but when im on a webpage i cant get to the button without swapping programs, etc. i would much rather push the useless hardware button. can you possibly help with this at all? im rather lost.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
I did mine with SPB Pocket Plus which add [Rotate Left] and [Rotate Right] to the button manager. However I thought I remembered seeing a reghack for default rotation direction somewhere too....

edit:

Try reversing the following DWORD value in HKLM\System\GDI\Rotation:

LandscapeMode

It can only be a 0 or a 1.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MeHoo:
i got software and attempted that but it did not work, i also tried messing with rotation and it didnt work.

do i ened to do a softreboot after this or will it be instantaneous?

EDIT: i even tried rebooting and it wont work.

i know spb pocket plus does it but im already buying mobile shell and i cant really justify 25 bucks to do this one thing. i wouldnt use anything else in pocket plus.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brentt007:
The fix

Thank you for the easy fix! it is better than the old 8125, now I finally love my 8525! May you all be blessed!:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] travissk8r:
great job sleuth!

any chance there will be support for the "right soft key" in the future??

(so one could push the button to dismiss a phone call...)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] raisingthebar:
Has anyone tried this with the newest Cingy ROM? It allows me to assign the button, but when I do- it still goes to the new ptt screen. I personally would rather not have the ptt and use the button for something else....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
what exactly is the "newest cingy rom" you refer to?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
i would bet that the user is referring to the aku3.3 release.. the one that isnt officially released yet....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
That's just it: PTTFix is known to work correctly on that build. Perhaps raisingthebar forgot to reset his device after patch installation and the pttfix service isn't started....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] raisingthebar:
Sorry - I was away for a few.. Your are right, it is the "un-official" release of 2.06.

I have installed it to the device and rebooted post install as you said. It does make button 5 available for assignment. However, no matter what is assigned, when I press the button it still goes to the actual "PTT Service Initialization" screen.

Any thoughts?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brentt007:
jog wheel

I've been trying to find a hack that would allow the jog wheel function on my today screen to control the ring volume.

Or is it possible to add the volume control as a button feature in the button settings menu?

Can anyone help me with this one???

Thank you!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Rickh123456:
PPT hack is slick! Thanks!

This worked beautifully on my 8525. I am using the basic voice dialer included in the software that comes on the 8525 by default. It works great with my bluetooth headset.

Thanks!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MSHampton:
This is great. Thanks. Coming from an i730 (samsung) I was very suprised to find the very limited options for assigning things to buttons. It seems that all WM5 versions are not created the same.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] JamesAllen:
Successful

I just downloaded and executed the cab on my 8525 with success, thank you for your excellent work. May seem like a small effort to you but a very valuable feature for us.

I appreciate all your efforts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fanningb:
Possible 1.05 doesn't work on newest Cingular rom?

Hi Sleuth,

Not sure if anyone has mentioned this, but looks like PTTFix 1.05 may not work on the "public" ROM that just showed up on this board. ROM version shows 2.15.502.3 and a rom date of 4/9. My issue is that the Smart-dialing and jog wheel up/down to Call History and Speed Dial are no longer functional. Is it just me having issues?

regards...

bf
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] akawache:
I can not install on 8525

I tried to install this on 8525 an it fails. Please help..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
Welcome to xda-developers. Try reading through the entire thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279585 first. Also try being a little more descriptive. At a wild guess you have a corrupted download, so try downloading direct from your 8525.

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] hollmrl:
Smart Dial Does Not Work on ROM version 2.15.502.3

It is not working on mine eitther. I just upgraded to ROM version 2.15.502.3 and it stopped functioning with PTTFix.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] toyfreak:
Sleuth255:

Thanks for all your efforts. My ROM, etc. is in my signature. I just installed the new Cingular/ATT ROM (unmodified version) and PTTFix. Before PTTFix, the PTT button took me to the service registration screen (as did the icon the Programs folder).

After PTTFix I assigned M$ Voice Command to Button 5 and PTT to Button 5 (push and hold). Now PTT will not start by launching manually or by using Button 5, push and hold.

I have tried re-assigning buttons with no success but when I uninstall PTTFix the function of the PTT button and Programs icon is normal again.

Sorry in advance if I missed something here. Does anyone else have similar issues?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@toyfreak:

my PTTFix app and PTT are mutually exclusive. You can have one or the other but not both.

@all:

I'm looking at the smartdialer issue on the new cingular ROM
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] toyfreak:
Thanks for clearing that up!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fonzallen:
Great fix!

The Cingular 8525 is my 3rd Pocket PC phone and the only negative among all the spectacular capabilities is now resolved. Sleuth255, you have made my day!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] markwrx:
I must be very dense - the file PTTfix.cab is Winzip file. When I extract it, it produces four files including an XML file called setup. It doesn't produce a Cab file.

So what am I doing wrong?

Thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
common noob problem. Download the entire CAB file to your hermes then tap using filemanager to install. ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] whutsup:
Works like a charm!!!

THANK YOU THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!!! :D

The PTTFix.cab program works like a freakin charm.

I was playing with my voice tags and realized how cool they are but also how burried the Voice Speed Dial app was. Not wanting to give up the functionality of the 4 available programmable buttons, I realized how lame the non-functioning PTT button was. I called Cingular and talked to multiple techs who told me the PTT button was NOT programable.

Well, they were wrong... I now have a slick way to access my Voice Speed Dial, and I didnt even have to give up one of my buttons... the PTT press and hold function is just icing on the cake!

Thanks Sleuth255!!! You just made my day!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] teknics:
Any updates on the new Cingy rom Sleuth?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Looks like cingy's playing cat & mouse with me here; they've rotated the shields on me to break my previous patch. I'm inclined atm to do one of two things:

1. Release my next patch when the official Cingy update comes out.

2. Release a patch for WM6 that enables the PTT button in conjuction with shogun's PTT cab.

I'll for sure do #2 since the latest RTM WM6 builds blow away everything I found wrong with WM5 TyTN builds. In fact, Cingy may never release the WM5 version you have for this reason.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
Sleuth, I've been out of it for a while - does this mean we have good reason to believe there will be an "official" 8525 WM6 release????

That would be fantastic!

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Absolutely. I was personally told by our Cingular Rep that the 8525 was on their WM6 upgrade roadmap.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mitchg:
Can PTT be re-enabled?

Hi guys - I had the original 8525, and obviously the PTT did not function. I used pttfix to remap, and it worked great. Then I upgraded to the latest ROM found on XDA, and found out that low & behold, the PTT function appeared to be enabled - some wizard started up asking if I wanted to turn on PTT!

Then I upgrade to WM6 (Black 2.5) and I lost that PTT function again. :(

To make a long story short, how can the real PTT function be put back on? Is there a CAB that was in the new ROM that was removed from the black 2.5 OS?

Thanks,

mitch
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
Great, thanks for the heads-up!

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@mitchg: shogunmark has a cab file but the actual ptt button linkage to the PTT application itself has yet to be written. I'll be producing this application ITNF and will give it over to shogun for inclusion into his cab. this will allow any WM6 build to work with Cingular PTT customizations.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mrgm:
confused nooob

I’ve read the thread in its entire. I still have no clue if this software is for my bb.

I have a bb 8800 (purchased about 4 days ago). That PTT button is driving me insane. I would like to change it to bring up my Voice dial that I'm paying for with this phone. Ive installed the device manager software that came with this phone, all works well. The only change I would like to make to this gadget would be the PTT button.

Most of the stuff you guys are referencing to I have no clue about. Is there a install for dummies?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
please don't attempt to install pttfix on your bb :eek: :eek:

:rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mrgm:
I have not. I like understanding what I install before attempting anything. Is there something out there for my application?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Well, this is a Windows Mobile forum specifically devoted to HTC hardware.

Nothing for blackberries on XDA-Developers I'm afraid. I wish I could point you in a direction but I haven't used a BlackBerry since Microsoft released Direct Push email back in early 2006.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mrgm:
As I said, Im new at this. Will look else where. Thanks for letting me know.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Good Luck!

and, if you ever consider switching over to the "Dark Side".... consider going with HTC and remember that we're here. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] hoffdan:
Hi. New 8525 owner here. I installed this program, according to the instructions on the first post.

I did not change the settings for Button 5. When I press it, I get a popup that says "error opening the shortcut or locating the tartget filename."

I tried a search for PTT and shortcut but was overwhelmed hits.

Thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
Well the 2.15.502.3 version is up on HTC America's site, so I guess they're throwing us (the "official upgrade" crowd) a bone....

Please count me in the request for a WM5 patch list.

Thanks!

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mthomas:
Broken link?

link in first post seems to be broken.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Tested link and its ok.

@hoffdan: go into button manager and check your button 5 settings. You can change press & press/hold functions for the ptt button (button 5) there.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chaz_u4ea:
Registry Value

I wanted to suggest, if its possible, to use the value in HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand. This would allow you to create one DLL that will pull the correct voice command program without having to hard code the path.

Hope this helps,

Chuck
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chaz_u4ea:
Registry Key

I wanted to suggest, if its possible, to use the value in HKLM\Software\OEM\VoiceCommand when creating the process. This would allow you to create one DLL that will pull the correct voice command program without having to hard code the path.

Hope this helps,

Chuck
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] trojan9x:
OK, I'll be the first to ask. Is there a remote possibility that PTT could ever work on the Wizard with what you have come up with here? Specifically the 8125?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Well, this hack isn't about enabling PTT; rather its about disabling its exclusive control over one of the buttons and giving it back for other uses.

However.... this little exercise has increased my understanding of PTT. There's another thread in the TyTN forum that specifically deals with this. I'll be sure to take a closer look at PTT when Cingular releases it for the 8500 series...

edit:

Forgot to add... my Cingular technical support contact has told me PTT will be released for the 8500 series and select other PPC devices. Perhaps they will add 8125 support themselves.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Good Suggestion! Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
here is the thread i started about PTT from the 8525 and porting it over to the 8125

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=278433

i think it will be a good possibility of getting it to work... but thats just an assumption since there isnt a working version for the 8525 yet.. i just feel there are enough smart people on this board to take over the world with their xda, i mean port PTT to the 8125
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] popcity:
Thanks for the files Sleuth255, works great.. Thumbs up...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
Would there by chance be a way we could see some screenshots? Just to see how the app looks like with PTT enabled? Thanks :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
I'm not sure about screenshots, but when the dll is running, if you press the left button (under the ok button by the jog wheel) then the built in dialer application is launched. If you have microsoft voice command and you use the voice command version of the dll then the MVC microphone icon pops up and the listening tone sounds. The DLL itself has no visual interface.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Version 0.1 released: In preparation for fully configurable launch control, I've placed the launch value into the registry. You can now launch whatever you want by simply changing the value in HKLM\Services\PTT\ButtonPressLaunchValue.

Initially, this value is automatically set to SDDialer.exe by the service.

See the first post for details. :)

edit: Version 0.2 released shortly after :rolleyes:

...As soon as I had v0.1 working I realized how cool a press/hold function would be in addition to the configurable press function.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
Forgive me for sounding retarded, but is PTT like how it is on Nextel's? I know some Cingular phones have phone, I'm just wondering if it's the same or not. Thanks :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shogunmark:
for the plain and simple answer.. yes, its like a walkie talkie feature similiar to nextel
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
That's exactly what I was thinking, didn't mean to sound retarded :\ From what I hear, this doesn't really mean much since there isn't an app that allows it to work yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@darkjedi:

I don't have much of an opinion of PTT myself but the fact that Cingular would release a ROM that made button 5 on my TyTN unusable was very aggravating to me. I'm quite used to pressing button 5 to bring up voice command. Imagine having it now hard-coded to a lame dialog box...

Even worse, the Cingular 8525 will drop with this same lame dialog box, hard coded to button 5, in place. They won't actually have PTT until 2007 since PTT functionality itself needs to be added to their WCDMA network to be usable by this device. This means that early adaptors of the 8525 will only have 4 programable buttons.

However, thanks to this little project's successful completion, I'm now pleased to say "Not any more". The dll on page 1 adds complete programmable functionality back to button 5.

I'm even hoping that when Cingular actually releases PTT services for the 8500 series that I'll be able to give it's owners the choice to attach it to either the press or the press/hold function, in either case leaving one function free for use by other apps such as Voice Command or Voice Dialer.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] goestoeleven:
Ah, young grasshopper, don't forget that Cingular most definitely did not release this ROM for your TyTN! ;)

And of course, I was just as annoyed as you were!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
true..... :rolleyes: I did this to myself :)

But think of all those poor 8525 early adopters! I'm just making the edge a little less "bleeding" and a little more "leading" here.

Right... who am I kidding....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
Well you did a fantastic job :D Thanks :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chakra:
thank you for this application. how do i link it to microsoft voice command? I read the instructions but i cant figure out what to write in the reg editor??
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
In this value:

HKLM\Services\PTT\ButtonPressLaunchValue

Put the full path to the Microsoft Voice command app. If you installed it to your device, you should put in this:

program files\voice command\voicecmd.exe
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chakra:
thanks for the info. there is one issue though I have to restart the service every time I reset. it won't start itself, so the button won't work untill I start the service. is this the same for anyone else? thanks in advance for any help anyone can give me.

I have a tytn running the 1.34.502.1 rom radio 1.16
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mthomas:
Thanks

I tried downloading about six or seven times directly to phone. The dialogue box kept varying between 12 and 56(or so) k. The it would download, but when I clicked to install it would not work. I downloaded directly to laptop, then moved to phone and it worked. I'm getting some strange behaviours out of the included version of pie, and wonder if it is possibly corrupted some how. thanks for the great patch, i really enjoy the functionality of remapping the ptt key.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gr8hifi:
I installed the latest, officially released cingy ROM and my smart dialer broke after installing the PTT fix (GREAT app by the way!)... i un-installed it, the smart dialer started working again. Any ideas?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@gr8hifi: known issue. I will release a new version that corrects this ITNF. I'm at MEDC currently tho and won't be near my dev machine for another week.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
Thanks Sleuth! I quickly decided I wanted my Button 5 more than my smart dialer, but it will be fantastic to have both.

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] absolutg:
i'm looking forward to the fix as well :)