yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samcham:
Same here. :( Too bad, because the WM6 ROM itself works much better for me.

I hope Sleuth can work some more of his magic so it'll work on WM6, because I really miss using that button for something useful! :)

EDIT: A Possible Solution?

Over at the 4WinMobile Hermes forum, Boz recommended the following:

"If you do not want to use the PTT button, hard reset and then soft reset before the rom installs the extended rom (Just after you set the time etc, and it gives you a countdown before installation). Then try using the PTT button fix..."

I may give it a try this evening. I'll post here if it works.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ljinsane:
it works

It does work....use either one of VPG's latest roms and you will be good to go.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samcham:
Unfortunately, it didn't work. Bummer.

Has anyone figured out how to get the PTT fix to work on WM6?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Alshain:
Thats not a solution. I want to use the official AT&T Rom (even if it is leaked), not a cooked one that crashes all the time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vp3G:
Whatever... enjoy your bloatware and inop PTT button, then. :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jdnels:
Originally Posted by odie3

Here they are in the order they appeared - hopefully this helps you out. I re-installed your cab just to get the errors for you.

1. PTT FindWindowFailed

2. PTT Unregister Class Failed

3. PTT Service Class Registration Failed

End Of Errors on startup.

--------------

I only get the first two errors. So I gather that there is no fix without reinstalling the ROM?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ljinsane:
one ...it IS a solution...two... VPG's rom doesnt crash I have been using it since he released it and have had no issues at all and I've flashed my device with alot of ROMs...I, like many of the members here need my device to work flawlessly all the time for work purposes..... Now I will say it one last time......ptt hack does work...use VPGs rom and you wil be good to go...it is based on the official ATT leaked ROM...... stop being an ass
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
I'll look at updating the patch for WM6. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samcham:
Thanks, Sleuth!! :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] callmemoe:
Am I misunderstanding? I am using the leaked AT&T WM6 ROM on my 8525 along with vp3G's ptt hack and it works just fine. You don't have to install his ROM in order to use it or at least I didn't have to. But from all I read on that thread, his seems to be a damn good ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jdnels:
I am using the "hybrid" ROM. I think it is fine. I honestly can't say it is any faster or slower than WM5, but the added features and customizations are huge improvements. Upon soft reset, I get the two errors I mentioned in my previous post. This is with Sleuth's pttfix and the pttfix that is on the hybrid ROM. When you take the pttfix out of the windows startup folder, no errors. put either of the ptt fixes in the startup... you get the two erros.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Dick Starbuck:
Perfect app for ATT8525 stock ROM
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] acxent:
Newbie here

Hi, Sleuth255:

I just got the ATT 8525 smartphone, ROM Version: 2.15.502.3 , Model No: HERM 100, running WM5.

Thanks to some brilliant folks at cingular forums I was able to tone down that awful chime that accompanies the ATT splash screen on that device in about 20 minutes, despite being a total noob at PDAs.

I love the idea of re-assigning the useless PTT button and using it maybe for Voice Activated Dialing instead.

Is your patch good for the ROM version I have?

Thx

acxent
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] acxent:
Bunch of hacks can be found here:

http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...thread.id=41905&view=by_date_ascending&page=1

I used the first hack (the .wav file with greatly reduced sound volume dropped into the Windows folder) and it worked for me. I can barely hear the "growl" now.

acxent
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samcham:
I wasn't aware tha vp3G had hacked the PTT button! Is it part of his ROM? How did you install it without installing his ROM?

EDIT: I found his cab file and it works just fine on the leaked AT&T ROM. Thanks, vp3G!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vp3G:
To be fair I can't take any credit for having "hacked" it, per se. It's still Sleuth's current PTTFix for WM5, I just figured out how to make it work with the WM6 ROM. :cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] DanD911Phx:
I have the same phone and rom and it works great. By the way, that ROM brings it up to WM5.1
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jdnels:
as i said before, i would get the first two errors on SR. i did switch to schaps wm6 ROM (which also has a ptt fix) and i no longer get the errors. both are good ROMs IMO.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samcham:
Well, then...I guess you only get partial credit! :D

Either way, your effort is appreciated.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mschein:
PTT fix no longer working

I have an 8525 with the upgraded Cingular ROM (Stock at HTC). Ptt fix has been working fine for months. All of a sudden, it stops working and is back to the standard PTT button. I've tried removing and reinstalling. No luck. Has anyone seen this behavior before.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
I'm loading the stock AT&T WM6 ROM on my 8525 now and will be working on a PTTFix update today.... Hopefully it will be a quick fix :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Well lookey here: PTTFix works with WM6 now

PTTFix now works with the AT&T WM6 ROM :) See page 1 for details.

....If you like it, be sure to press that donate button early & often.... Sleuth needs a Blu-ray DVD player :eek:

(actually, a triple Latte works too)! ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
D@mn, you're quick sir!

Thanks a million - even though I'm waiting for the WM6 ROM to show up on the HTC site :)

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Shawner:
Sleuth - will the newly released patch work with WM5 as well as the "new" official at&t WM6?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
yep: it's fully backward compatible :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Shawner:
Excellent, great work!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
PTTFix should work just fine on your ROM. If you get a "shortcut missing" error when using the default voice dialer for button 5 press event then just use the button manager to re-assign the press event to Voice dialer and the problem will resolve itself.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] charlie71:
button hack for AT&T 8525

This PPTfix is great! I have 2 new buttons, push, and hold on the PPT.

I'm wondering if there's a button hack for the 'okay' button just above the PPT button and below the scroll wheel. I usually use the 'okay button to the right of the D-pad, so it'd be nice to be able to remap this side 'okay' button.

Anyone know how?

thanks,

ck
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] benace:
I didn't bother to read this entire post (and thus risk reposting) but... I've gotten this combo to function rather nicely:

Set Button 5 (Press & Hold) = VJCandela On

Set Button 5 = VJCandela Off

Now, you press&hold to turn the lite on, then tap the button again to turn it off. helps prevent accidental turning on, and allows for easy off. neat!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
I just set 5 Press&Hold to VJCandelaLite and it toggles on/off based on the press. Actually the VJC default timeout usually shuts it off, not me.

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pegleg Pete:
Sleuth255

New (10/05/07) AT&T 8925 running WM 6 out of box shows 5 buttons; 1-IE, 2-Messaging, 3-Start Menu, 4-OK, 5-Camera.

Loaded your latest from page 1 (used earlier versions on 8525 - GREAT hack!).

With 8925, Latest (1.07) in Settings\Buttons shows 3 button 5's, yours plus Camera. PTTfix disables PTT, but does NOT reassign button.

FYI and Thx for making these things truly useful,

Camera Button 5 operates normally.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] GumboChief:
Have also just tried 1.07 on the 8925, and confirm that it does not allow remapping.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] robroth:
anxiously awaiting pttfix for 8925 myself so i can assign it to ms voice command.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Hang on.... I'll have to get an 8925 first. S/b a few weeks or so before I can play with it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pittpanther:
gumbochief - I just installed 1.07 on my 8925 and performed a reset, and my button doesn't seem to do anything (except illuminate the keyboard). It also only shows a single Button 5 in Settings | Buttons. Does your show multiple Button 5s?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] whistler4ever:
it looks like the cab is giving me errors on a cooked 3.62 rom. anyone else have this issue?

edit: nevermind, uninstalled and reinstalled it again, and it worked!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] haileyn:
HTC Tytn II

I have the ATT Tilt and when I install the hack, it adds button 5, but there is already a button 5 (the OK button). it does remove functionality from the PTT button but it is unable to assign to it. a reboot of the phone removes the option to reassign.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] callar:
PTTfix doesn't work on 8525

I installed the PTT fix. I went into "buttons" and made button 5 Voice Command. However when I press button 5 it still starts PTT. Is there something else I need to do? I'm running vp3G 3.62 & radio 1.54.07.

Thanks,

Jay C
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] robroth:
you need to disable the PTT driver from starting when the phone boots. instructions are in this thread somewhere.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dpham20:
How do I get the file onto my phone? can i sync to get it on there?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] callar:
You really need to learn more about your phone if you're asking this question here.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brendalee:
It didn't work on my At&T 8925

for some reason it still just gives me five buttons, one of which is Not the PTT button. I loved this fix on my 8525. I also don't seem to have the ability to chose "push" or "push and hold"? I am a newbie, so can you help me in layman terms?

Has anyone else noticed this machine locks up and just goes black? a soft reset seems to fix it, but it does it every once in a while?

Thanks in advance

Brenda
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] techskill:
Not for the Tilt

This fix won't work for your Tilt. Check the Kaiser forums and you'll find what you need
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] PostDeals:
wow 8925 :) I am jealous.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] scottwilkins:
yes yes! Voice Commander please! Thanks for the awesome work! :)

EDIT: oops, just saw this doesn't work for Tilt. I didn't find reference for this in search. Can anyone post a link to the thread in the Kaiser form for this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sarossell:
Still no solution?

I read every entry in this thread and, unless I misssed it, there still is no solution for assigning hotvoice.exe (AKA MSVOICE or Voice Record) to Button 5. PTTFIX makes Button 5 available and I can run Calculator and Solitaire with it, but not Record. I have the Record.lnk I downloaded from this forum and it works just fine when assigned to Buttons 1 thru 4, but not 5. What gives? I've tried AEButton, Vito Button Mapper (even with macros), SKTools and HButton. The closest result I've gotten with these third party apps is to get Notes to run from Button 5 (hold or otherwise) using Vito Button Mapper, but it doesn't show the recording toolbar or start recording. Grr! It amazes me that this is a problem in the first place! Why in the world would they manufacture a $600 phone without a voice record function and then add insult to injury by replacing it with a Push-to-Talk button that isn't even supported?!:mad: I've messed with shortcuts and registry entries until I'm blue in the face to no avail. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Spb Pocket Plus achieves new notes with this:

114#"\Program Files\PocketPlus\ActionSender.exe" -key PLUSACTION{0025|00000000} {0FE5DCC1-5413-11d2-A53B-00C04F8ECDC8}

It still doesn't work for automatic recording though. :-(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RussellNS:
I also have an AT&T Tilt (a.k.a. 8925, HTC Kaiser, HTC P4550), and would love to be able to remap this button.

I checked the Kaiser forums and was not able to find anything related to PTT. I also noticed that the sig for the progam's author, Sleuth255, shows that he's got an AT&T Tilt as well.

Is a version of this program coming for this phone soon? And will that version be posted as part of this thread or moved to the Kaiser threads?

Thank you in advance for any info.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
It's right on the wiki page for the Kaiser....

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1577293&postcount=12

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RussellNS:
Thanks!

I don't know why this didn't come up when searching the entire forum for "PTT". In any case, this is just what I was looking for.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Pegleg Pete:
Thanks for the link.

BUT, Sleuth255, having had an 8525 with PTTfix making it quite useful, I've lamented the useless PTT button on this Tilt/8925.

Anxiously awaiting your new PTTfix2, have come to conclusion PTT actually means HTC "Put Tits on a Tennisshoe" . . . useless and absurd!

So, Sleuth255, consider a PayPal bucket where slavering souls in search of simply useful systems (4SUS) may contribute to your welfare.

Take your time to build PTTfix2 right, but HUURRRYYYY, o'k?

Best,

Pegleg Pete
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
What drugs are you on and where can I get some???

What the heck are you blithering about???? The instructions in the link *MAKE* the 8925/Tilt "PTT" button programmable *EXACTLY* as if you'd installed this mythical "PTTfix2". Why on earth do you think I provided it and what on earth do you think RussellNS meant when he said "this is just what I was looking for"??!?!?!?!?

BTW, I know you're not reading the posts, but Sleuth *HAS* a PayPal icon in his signature, so feel free to donate now without further waiting.

Argh.

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] property33:
registry editor

:confused:

Which registry editor do you use
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] charlie71:
pptfix doesn't work on AT&T 8525 with new WM 6

I just installed the new mobile 6, and now the pptfix doesn't work. ...I downloaded this newest one... am I doing something wrong? I tried installing it a few times. I noticed that after an install it changed the button to voice dialing, but when I'd press the button 5 it would bring up PPT...

So I ran the install again, and then did a soft reset, and now its working! Hope this helps others....

ck
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jrlosh:
PTT Help

I just bought a used 8525 from a friend of mine (forgive me I'm new to all this) and it has vp3g installed on it. I was so happy to see that there is something I out there that will allow me to use the voicedial. So I downloaded the PTT fix cab. And copied the file onto my device.

In installed the fix did the restart but when I go to add the function to my buttons there is no voice command on the drop down menu only voice recorder Any ideas?

What am I doing wrong? I'm guessing I am missing something.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vp3G:
@jrlosh: Depends which version of vp3G it is... you may want to check the first few posts of the appropriate thread for info. PTTFix is intended for "stock" ROMs only, although it works on my latest (3.62) an is installed by default. My advice: flash 3.62 if you've got something older.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jrlosh:
Sorry but I am all kinds of new to this. What do you mean by flash 3.62.

As far as what version of vp3G I have:

ROM version:vp3G 3.60.0

ROM date: 08/09/07

Radio version: 1.40.30.00

Protocol version: 32.73.7020.16H

If that helps at all.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] tubaguy63:
PTTfix not working

It works with the official WM6 ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sk0t:
I'm having the same issues too.. It wasn't working with the un-released AT&T ROM, and also the new one as well. I'm still hunting for a fix..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Make sure you have a DWORD value named "UnsignedService" set to 1 in the HKLM\Services\PTT key. This will be your issue if the service shows as "Automatic" in Taskmgr but isn't started. If the service shows as "Manual", make sure you stop the service, change it to automatic, completely exit out of taskmgr then restart by powering off then back on. This is the same technique you use to get registry changes to "stick" btw and is due to the way WM5 devices handle NVRAM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chakra:
i do. should it say service or services? i have a dword of UnsignedService with a value of 1 and it wont work after soft reset.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
"UnsignedService" DWORD 1 is correct.

ok, first make sure that the service startup is automatic in Taskmgr. Assuming this is the case, try setting these values in the PTT key:

Flags DWORD 0

Keep DWORD 1

Index DWORD 0

Context DWORD 0

I had a few issues getting "Automatic" to stick on mine. Every time I reset it would show "Manual" execution still in taskmgr and the service would be stopped. However, once I got "Automatic" to stick, I've had no issues with the service starting automatically on my TyTN.

edit:

Wait! There is one other thing that I've done to my TyTN. I've turned off digital security with the following reghack:

; Disable digital signature security

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies]

"0000101a"=dword:00000001

Try that and see if it works.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] chakra:
i have all the same settings?? When I first do the hack, a small dialog box comes up with a warning. I cant think of what itsays right now. does that happen with you?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Let me know what the exact text of the warning is please. There should be no text messages at all displayed when the service starts.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Ok, I've identified a service start issue with PTTFix.dll and have modified the installation instructions accordingly. If if the PTTFix service won't start automatically and if, when you start it manually a red bordered dialog box warning about starting an unsigned application gets displayed then it means you have digital security enabled. It needs to be off for my unsigned service dll to run without throwing a warning. Check the installation instructions on page 1 for the new key to change.

I'm going to find out what it takes to sign the application so the error isn't displayed.

Interestingly, on the 1.31 Cingular ROM, this only happens once. After that, everything is fine. I'm wondering if the 1.34 ROM has a different default security level. I'm getting reports from people who can't even execute the service unless digital security is off, then once turned off, the service can be started but not automatically.

Is there anyone using this dll on Cingular ROM v1.34 who has the service starting automatically w/o issues?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Freshster:
Working good here...

Sleuth,

I am currently using your ORIGINAL PTTFix.dll successfully on the Cingular ROM v1.34. The service is set to launch Automatically and I have not seen a single issue with it since you first released this fix. Works great on my TYTN.

Also, my registry has the following DEFAULT digital signature security set to:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Security\Policies\Policies]

"0000101a"=dword:00000001

If you need any data captured from my device for troubleshooting purposes, I would be happy to help. I am going to test your PTTFix Version 0.2 and I will let you know how it works.

Thanks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Thanks for the info Freshster. If you could PM me a dump of your HKLM\Services\PTT key I'd appreciate it greatly :) As far as v0.2 is concerned, the only difference you should notice is that voice dialer launches when you release the PTT button instead of when you press it. This is because I've added the press/hold function.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fun_key:
There might bit a slight issue in v0.2; as soon as the service restarts it reset the hold registry value to \\windows\sdialer.exe. I can edit the registry value while the service is active and set it to program files\voice command\voicecmd.exe, but I ll lose this as soon as the service restart.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@fun_key: what??? a bug???? Impossible!!! My code doesn't have bugs... it has "undocumented features" :)

I'll look into it... I never tested the hold function since the default is what I want the hold function to do... I know the press function change sticks at least...

Also:

For those who can't get the service to start automatically, it seems that the problem lies in the fact that some people are letting the Cingular Customizations run after re-flashing and the current working theory is that they change the default security level. The folks who are working all seem to have one thing in common: we aborted the Cingular customization and loaded the TyTN customization cabs instead.

I'm working on finding the offending Policy value right now. This is good b/c I've always wanted to find more about these registry settings. Hopefully, changing these keys will even be allowed once the security level is increased.... :rolleyes:

Also, I'll come out with a signed dll when the 8525 drops. Signing is a little expensive and my company won't cover these costs unless I can use the dll for work purposes. We will be going to the 8525 en-masse when it drops.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fun_key:
I investigated a bit more about this undocumented feature :-) and I discovered that the hold registry key doesnt reset to default all the time. If I set the same action in hold & press (in my case it was program file\voice command\voicecmd.exe) there are no change made by the service when I restart it. But, if I set "program files\pocket plus\alttab.exe" in press key and "program files\voice command\voicecmd.exe" in hold key, i get my hold reseted to "windows\\sdialer.exe" by the PPT service when it reload.

This is far from being dramatic for me; just wanted to let you know; you dit a great great work !
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@fun_key: feature de-implemented! v0.2 zip file updated with new pttfix.dll and changelog modified on the first post. Thanks for flushing this one out!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] crosswind:
I'm using V2 of the hack, it works perfectly with voice command, but I have to manually start the service every time I reset my device.

I have v1.31 rom installed, and auto installed the cingular ext. rom. All my registry keys have been changed to match the ones in this thread.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks