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[Nexus 5 General] keith.mcintyre26:
Yes. Don't forget about the moms/grandparents/dolts/etc. Trust me- I don't want to use MMS. Its dead technology.
[Nexus 5 General] adiliyo:
i don't want to beat a dead horse, but you keep going on about this. yes, a ton of people in the US use MMS because

1. it's essentially free to us in our plans

2. iphone uses (of which there are a lot) it for group messaging (and so does android fyi)

3. it's much simpler to keep things threaded in one place

4. very few casual users use hangouts in a mobile manner (ask 100 galaxy s* users outside of a tech setting if they are on hangouts and see what kind of % you get)

5. it's popular, it's a core feature, it doesn't matter if you don't use it, it is something that is expected to work and when it doesn't people will go around looking to figure out how to make it work.

in the end it comes down to the the adoption of 3rd party messengers, people in general don't care, using the built in sms/mms app on their phone is straightforward, easy, and will always work no matter who they send it to.

NOW can we stop the clutter and debate?

cheese and rice.

:highfive:
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
I think the design decision was for notifications to get top priority.
[Nexus 5 General] alekos panagulis:
Same here. That's the reason I rolled back to Kitkat.

Tapatalked from Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] OptimusVDarwin:
I and many others use MMS. It's so convenient
[Nexus 5 General] MoosDiagramm:
The developer responsible for this spoke at the IO keynote and apologized. It's being worked on and will ship on the final version, he just didn't have time to finish it for the preview release.
[Nexus 5 General] PunchTheLion:
Thanks!

Sometimes things change, but not necessarily always for the best. Good to know the intention is to still keep it.
[Nexus 5 General] ConorCX:
MMS isn't very popular in the UK. For me on 2G (O2 UK everyone, avoid like the plague) it's slow as hell. I'd rather be connected to WiFi and send the photo via FB messenger or e-mail.
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
Are there any browsers that work apart from chrome?

Using chrome now to post this... It sux
[Nexus 5 General] DrDuty:
UC Browser worked for me.
[Nexus 5 General] iPWNtehNOOB:
I'm not sure if this is the right place to ask or not, so I apologise if it isn't. I've been playing with L for a few days, but ultimately had to go back to 4.4.4 because of Xposed.

I'm wondering if perhaps there are some L compatible alternative apps or even a custom L ROM that has support for the following:

- Centered clock

- Circular battery icon

- Slide notification bar for brightness

- 4 way reboot on the power menu

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
[Nexus 5 General] sumanthsv:
Well that makes the first world pretty silly doesn't it!

Jokes apart all I had to say was it's something that's been noted.. Something that the devs working on and surely in the next builds hopefully (even preview build s) or definitely the final release it'll be sorted out.. Just need to move on from the MMS that's been rattling on for the last 30odd pages or so.

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Everyone is waiting for xposed or custom Roms for Android L with those exact requirements.. However we don't seem to be there yet.. Just got to wait.. Hv a little patience things will work out :thumbup:

As for needing them right away.. Will

Well that doesn't leave you too many options now goes it.. Enjoy the L as it is for now or head back to 4.4.4 for the time being..
[Nexus 5 General] cyanide911:
I would if Google payment system worked with my bank's Credit Card. Lots of complications for people who don't live in the US, you know. It's not healthy to presume and make judgments on people.
[Nexus 5 General] DubelBoom:
Hi

I wondered if someone found how to mute (not vibrate) the ringtone without going in to sound & notifications settings and change the "when calls and notifications arrive" setting to "don't ring or vibrate" (and then returning there to change it back to normal).

On KitKat you could take the volume all the way down, or by the toggles in the power menu.

Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] ptr_hamilton:
If I remember correctly, it was long pressing the left icon. So volume down and the press and hold the left hand side icon to mute completely
[Nexus 5 General] bionicjew:
Turn on 'Do not disturb' mode in the new quick settings
[Nexus 5 General] tidsoptimist:
That's the way I do it, by pressing the icon.
[Nexus 5 General] Pillock:
MMS are very country-dependant. I know a lot of US users use them because they're inclusive.

In the UK, I don't know anyone who uses MMS... I've not sent one for 5 years, almost certainly since I've had Android handsets starting with the Hero. I've probably received no more than 2 or 3 in that time, none in the last couple of years.

In the UK, they're almost never included in minutes - my daughter sent three by accident (she thought they were Hangouts) and it took her over her credit limit because even with 1GB, 3000 texts and unlimited minutes, you don't get a single MMS and I've locked her contract down to £1 overspend.

I don't think I'd notice if they dropped the feature from phones. In fact I think in certain territories they should be disabled by default and Hangouts should recommend that you use the Internet to send pictures, that would certainly help Hangouts gain traction.
[Nexus 5 General] sblantipodi:
hi,

is there some apps that doesn't work with android L or does they work all good?

Is android L quite stable to use it for a everyday phone?
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
I use MMS to send pictures to people I'm texting because, well, it's simple. I don't have to go to a different app to send a picture, I can continue my conversation in Hangouts.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Then don't use "L". Its a developer preview image which isn't intended for daily use.

If you expect everything to work, just use KK. "L" is a developer preview, not a stable release. Watching the Google I/O stream I thought it was a good thing that they would give us a early dev preview, but now that people who can't even use fastboot just want to flash it and use it as a daily driver complain that things break (because of the dev preview itself being a dev preview, or not flashing properly and dirty flashing a .zip like blind idiots) or their device got "bricked", I'm starting to think otherwise.
[Nexus 5 General] tidsoptimist:
You should check this thread for information about that:

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/apps-android-l-preview-t2796176
[Nexus 5 General] csheppard93:
For those that want to change location settings to device only or battery saver. Set it to which one you want then exit. When you reopen location settings a box will appear. If you select disagree your settings will stick. They change when you hit agree.
[Nexus 5 General] eservant:
Quote:

Originally Posted by el.quechon View Post

Instead of typing restorecon -r data/media/0/* use restorecon /data/media/0/ it worked for me

It worked for me. Using multirom with L as my secondary rom.
[Nexus 5 General] neo2306:
wanna ask if i flash L then what about my warranty !! does it void ??

and i dont use MMS but wifi tethering is my daily use, is L can be used as a daily driver ?? or just use KK 4.4.4
[Nexus 5 General] dspcap:
While some people are using L as a daily driver, it's not meant for that, not all apps are working. Just skim through the thread and you'll get all your answers.
[Nexus 5 General] Koopa777:
The issue was people making flashable zips. Officially, fastboot is the ONLY way to install L, so you really can't blame Google at all. Additionally, they even hid it away a bit in the developer section, and didn't flagrantly post it on the /images page. The devs made it too easy for bafoons to play with fire. ;) On the bright side it's really easy to see who can't use fastboot and just flashed a zip. Everyone that has the SDcard issue flashed a zip, despite everyone telling them that the storage location and the entire userdata partition was changed. Not sure what they expected...

And MMS worked perfectly for me on Sprint with L. The new radios were borked all to hell, I had no signal on 3G, and had MMS issues everywhere. Then I flashed older radios(KRT16M in my case) and everything worked perfectly, including MMS on 3G, 4G, Wifi, etc.

L was actually surprisingly stable. :)
[Nexus 5 General] neo2306:
If i use official fastboot method then what about warranty ?? Sorry for noob que !!

Thanx
[Nexus 5 General] paychex:
There are plenty of alternative payment options
[Nexus 5 General] jaron7_11:
anyone on tmobile get teather working? i tired to change the pw and it still does not work
[Nexus 5 General] Koopa777:
"Technically" the warranty is suspended while the bootloader is unlocked, but you can just relock the bootloader if you ever send it in for warranty. Fastboot is fine, hell, when I was troubleshooting my old N5, the women at Tech Support TOLD ME to unlock the bootloader and flash the 4.4.2 image, then relock it. It's fine. It's a Nexus. Go for it. :laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] dcunited08:
Tether isn't working, it is in the bug list.
[Nexus 5 General] neo2306:
Thank you buddy !!
[Nexus 5 General] srathi:
Does installing L void the warranty?

Sorry if this has been answered before, does installing L preview on my Nexus 5 void the warranty in any way?
[Nexus 5 General] Pyro96:
This question got answered literally 3 posts up from yours, search the thread before you post. ?
[Nexus 5 General] Infinite104:
Objection. Ich flashed the factory image (total wipe) via .tgz and still got the SDcard error. As for your other points mentioned I agree. Flashing the Dev preview requires some basic knowledge about fastboot und adb.
[Nexus 5 General] TurboD:
Agreed, I wiped phone by locking and unlocking bootloader, then flashed factory image via adb, and still got SD card error.
[Nexus 5 General] Ahmed_iAM:
Has anyone else's camera been acting up? Its loads up and takes a single photo but then the camera app freezes and the image doesn't get saved, furthermore the camera cannot be used by other apps. This started occurring today.
[Nexus 5 General] Damian2013:
Nope you didn't. There's still no build or proof. Does anyone have it? No? Exactly.
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
He called fake on that supposed build. I don't know how you interpreted otherwise.
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
I wasn't complaining about it, just pointing out that people do use MMS. I'm using MultiROM and have L dual booted. I know how to use adb and fastboot, so no need to make accusations. I would never use L as a daily driver, because it is a beta developer preview. I just boot to it to show off to my non-nexus friends.
[Nexus 5 General] dspcap:
I think if you are worried about your warranty, you shouldn't unlock your bootloader.
[Nexus 5 General] brgroover:
TIP: Install New GPU Driver for Nexus 5 on L. Becomes much more fluid.
[Nexus 5 General] paychex:
multiple times. what doesn't this guy get?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53953135&postcount=2804
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
Uncheck Use NuPlayer in Developer Options.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
You should be flashing the factory image with fastboot.
[Nexus 5 General] TurboD:
I did use fastboot. Is there a way to flash a factory image on adb without fastboot?
[Nexus 5 General] DoesntPostAThing:
In my opinion no one really needs L right now, it's simply fun to play with, and the only reason Google released a developer preview is so developers can start upgrading their apps to use the new APIs, make it compatible when it's officially released, and while they're at it get some people to test the thing. And at least for me, I don't mind the instabilities, or feel it's a small price to pay to be able to get a head start on the new material design stuff. It's kind of like the ridiculous price for Google Glass, it acts like a filter. Anyone who the build is "meant" for won't mind the bugs, and anyone who can't live with the bugs or do a bit of research and fix them probably shouldn't be running a developer preview.
[Nexus 5 General] TheLastSidekick:
Didn't think about this much and messed up bad and ran this on MultiROM. Now all kernels read as if there is no Multi kernel support. Non kexec support error is shown on all ROMs. Anyone have a possible idea other than flashing factory default image and losing all of my data?
[Nexus 5 General] coalee:
If you got L factory image file from Google developer web page then you need Fastboot. Otherwise, you can download custom L flashable zip version from XDA forum.
[Nexus 5 General] adiliyo:
adb != fastboot
[Nexus 5 General] donnyp1:
I've been using L for a week now as a daily. I don't use multirom, did a full clean flash, and near zero issues. If you don't use a lot of apps, this is a very good daily driver. I've had no FC's or reboots. This is stupid fast with code blue kernel and excellent battery life. If you keep it simple, it works great.
[Nexus 5 General] TurboD:
Yes, I've been using it for a week+ also, and besides a couple of apps that I don't use a lot, it's suitable as a daily driver for those who don't mind tinkering. I would definitely say it's not ready for everyone yet, but I'm good with it for now.
[Nexus 5 General] robstunner:
I'd be with u if it were not for the hangouts being wonky. Call me wieed but I hate third party MMS apps and even then its sketchy on WiFi. I'll happily wait till hangouts is fixed all around :). Love L though.
[Nexus 5 General] milestone2mod:
Well, if you could give us those files we could try 'em out and see for ourselves... I'm really interested where you got them from, I searched like hell and couldn't find anything at all.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
You don't flash factory (or in this case developer) images with adb lol

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I hardly call someone who dumps the system then pastes it into a flashable zip a "developer". No offense to those who have done it but have also actually done some form of real development.

Look at how many posts and attention the "L" dev preview gets, pretty sure Google didn't intend for 99% of those people to use the dev preview lol.
[Nexus 5 General] xgrind:
Did you do a factory wipe using STOCK recovery?
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
ADB and fastboot are two completely different things, one is not part of the other.
[Nexus 5 General] aSquard:
Same boat, absolutely LOVE L and despise 3rd party MMS apps, but they work for the time being ?
[Nexus 5 General] robstunner:
I'd probably be with that but I use hangouts and it has issues on WiFi (hangouts not just MMS/SMS)
[Nexus 5 General] donnyp1:
I'm yet to have a single WiFi issue at all. I'm guessing different phones may behave differently
[Nexus 5 General] robstunner:
Oh really? I get random "message not sent" errors for hangouts and always for MMS on WiFi.
[Nexus 5 General] donnyp1:
I don't use hangouts. I am also just used to turning off WiFi with hellosms. Not sure if you classify that as a WiFi issue or MMS issue, probably later I guess. I get better WiFi connections than I've ever had.
[Nexus 5 General] robstunner:
Gotcha. Yea I'm a very frequent MMS and hangouts user
[Nexus 5 General] funcrusher:
Don't worry - it's obvious that he wasn't paying attention to the conversation and just wanted an excuse to post 'it's a preview blah blah' that's gotten just as repetitive as anything else.
[Nexus 5 General] donnyp1:
Right on dude. You never know when that one certain post comes along that turns on a light for someone so that they can understand also. Have a great one
[Nexus 5 General] mrjeff2:
I just ran into a strange bug where SMS messages were being received in hangouts despite setting my default to a third party client. In fact, I sent a message to myself from the third party client and watched in confusion as Hangouts displayed a notification of a message being received.

MMS messages also then failed silently, where I received no notification that a message was ready to be received.

I want to be sure I receive any messages someone may send me so back to 4.4 for now. :mad:
[Nexus 5 General] simplyanin:
I am getting excellent battery backup out of my Nexus 5 running Android L

Full power saver mode

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] lpforte:
I agree. Honestly, aside from the MMS issues on the Nexus 5, and the miscellaneous battery drain on the Nexus 7, there really aren't that many issues with this build. I mean I've seen just as many bugs on final releases as I have in this. I don't get why people complain. This is meant for development, not consumption.
[Nexus 5 General] In Desolation:
SO I just flashed the L preview. So far, so good. I checked the list of known apps with issues and it's pretty stable. Only thing that's annoying is the Netflix crashing, but that's pretty minor. Otherwise I really like the look and the battery life is vastly improved. I'll be keeping an eye on it throughout the day tomorrow.
[Nexus 5 General] psmedley:
For me, the only PITA is the random cases where unlock with pin fails in a loop. Sometimes it will bust out of the loop and unlock, other times I need to reboot. However, this happens once per day at most, so I can live with it for now :)
[Nexus 5 General] dspcap:
People complain because they don't understand what a development version means and they want everything working out the gate.
[Nexus 5 General] OptimusVDarwin:
MMS works on L Preview for me

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I've been using L preview since it released and it's stable for my use
[Nexus 5 General] thomase00:
Is this it?

https://github.com/google/battery-historian
[Nexus 5 General] noob.noob:
vibration

how to make the phone vibrate when the subscriber answers the call? tnx
[Nexus 5 General] sblantipodi:
is there some announcement from google on how they will manage the update of L?

do you know if they will release OTAs until the stable version?
[Nexus 5 General] BrutalGreen:
How do you guys get such good battery life on your nexus 5s, I can get about 2 hours of screen on time at best with about 50% brightness with an almost bone stock android L install. Also anyone else have this issue with the keyboard on android L (when using gesture input, the preview text box glitches all over the place)?
[Nexus 5 General] sumanthsv:
That's an xposed functionality (or Custom ROMs)..it isn't currently available on the L Preview..nor are custom ROMs as of yet. If you really find that feature important, it is better to revert back to 4.4.4.

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Please remember that battery life is dependent heavily on each person's usage patterns. Plus this is a Developer preview..So all the more chances that one or two or more of your apps are having wake locks..if you put your phone on Battery Saver mode definitely there is a bump in the battery life that most people have noticed..however since this is a dev preview..and the consumption is purely subject to the way you would use the phone, we can't actually figure out what is a good battery performance..

Keyboard glitch is a known issue..repeated many times over in this Thread..wait for the next build/preview release for hopefully lesser bugs..(I repeat this is a developer preview! you are bound to get bugs!!!)

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Unfortunately no update on this yet.. (I have pinned the Developer Preview page of Google on Chrome..everytime I open chrome that's the first page i check!)
[Nexus 5 General] Ahmed_iAM:
Thanks. I forgot I even checked this. Appreciate the help .
[Nexus 5 General] Akki.kumar:
Need Help

Hey Guys

I m using Nexus 5 Android L It work Perfectly Fine and I was Loving it bt since last night My phone Boot up to Home screen and restart again.,,.,

it is not stopping it stayed on home screen for about 10-20 seconds and boot again..,

and when i am using it in Safe Mode It work Perfectly fine...

is this problem with android L? My cellphone? or i havent sideloaded it correctely.,.?

waiting for solution to this..,.,

it might be recovered with again sideloading it bt i want to ask if i can solve this issue without formatting Phone..,

Thanks in advance.,.,.
[Nexus 5 General] derPianist:
Did you install any new application? Or any app update?
[Nexus 5 General] Akki.kumar:
Yes recentely i downloaded these two apps i did it last yesterday only.....

actually when i downloaded them phone works fine,.,

bt last night i by mistake left my cellphone pluged in on charging.,.

and when i woke up in the morning the problem occured,.,.,
[Nexus 5 General] In Desolation:
Did you follow what others have said? IE did you perform a backup, do a complete wipe and then flash from a clean start?
[Nexus 5 General] derPianist:
[MENTION=5936691]Akki.kumar[/MENTION]

Try uninstalling these apps first in safe mode.

If this does not help, do a clean install like [MENTION=5012977]In Desolation[/MENTION] suggested
[Nexus 5 General] Akki.kumar:
I havent read old MSGS because there wer 100s of pages

bt to provide you with the information i sideloaded it with nexus root toolkit....
[Nexus 5 General] tsaunders:
I had an issue like this with my phone as well. I thought it was an app I installed at first but it was Hangouts. I received a text message from a friend and then the phone rebooted. Once it came back on I got the message again and this kept happening. I was able to finally force stop hangouts and my phone was working just fine.
[Nexus 5 General] saman0suke1:
Does anyone know if Google has a date for the final release of Android L? because if it's like 2015, I will install this one, if it's a couple of months, I would wait, thanks!
[Nexus 5 General] In Desolation:
Nothing set in stone, but the general consensus is sometime late in the 3rd quarter, possibly early 4th.
[Nexus 5 General] saman0suke1:
This year? thanks for the info.
[Nexus 5 General] cobhc:
Yeah, I believe it's fall this year.
[Nexus 5 General] In Desolation:
Yeah, no worries. Google has been pretty consistent with the major releases coming in the fall. Hopefully with a brand new Nexus phone and tablet.
[Nexus 5 General] saman0suke1:
Wow! new nexus? you think? I have to save some money haha, thanks!
[Nexus 5 General] Androidawg:
Yes I am having this exact Problem. Looks like either no one else is or your question got lost in the flood. Hoping someone else might have found a way to correct this.
[Nexus 5 General] aSquard:
Had this when editing APNs... I went to recovery and cleared caches, seemed to fix the issue for me, YMMV
[Nexus 5 General] dalepothen:
What about wifi hotspot no issue
[Nexus 5 General] benwalburn:
Did anyone lose the Google Now command "set a timer"? Mine reverted to setting an alarm. I thought the switch was done server side by account. It works fine on my other three roms
[Nexus 5 General] Won't be druv:
I've just checked and yes, this is replicated on my phone.
[Nexus 5 General] androidpk:
Thanks thomase00

Possibly. It looks like this is the python script that should do it. However I think it requires a Hardware component like the Monsoon Power Monitor to provide the out file (as in monsoon.out seen in the comments section of the python script). I do not know if Google meant the script or the process to include this hardware component or not. Their description in the document seems to have conveniently left it out and on top of that the location they mention in the documentation also does not have it. I don't mind searching for this everywhere and someone like you helping :) but honestly they could have said what you really needed to do in order to get this working in their documentation or before announcing in the press conference. I could always be wrong and in such a case if someone can point me to some resource explaining how this thing actually works, I would be grateful to them. But thanks for pointing me to this script.
[Nexus 5 General] ghettopops:
Has anyone come up with a battery percent solution? I tried old hack file and had to reload L.
[Nexus 5 General] benifactor:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2516913