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[Galaxy S 5 General] MOPKOBKA:
US is different than other country, so people here want to not only prosecute crime, they want to prevent it. As part of preventing action you report that some person is dishonest, so probability of crime from his side can be higher.

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Could somebody check this one and tell if it is real?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-Gal...1570908123?pt=Cell_Phones&hash=item3a92cb6bdb

I still have time to win it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Heavy Metal:
Too bad you did not have a friend to buy one off him again but with counterfeit money...

The irony of it lol!!!

Just a thought a passing one lol not too, but who knows ya know what I mean :D;):cool:
[Galaxy S 5 General] xaznxplaya:
Wasn't aware that would work in the US, I forgot laws are reserve overthere. In Canada, you're not guilty until proven otherwise.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tmaynehassuru:
I wouldn't buy it. most G900H models are fake. Also it should be an octocore. no way it would go for only 500 dollars. Also the earpiece is black, the white ones have a silver ear piece. I'm calling this a fake
[Galaxy S 5 General] xaznxplaya:
Not seeing RAM in it...
[Galaxy S 5 General] tmaynehassuru:
I was thinking about calling from a different number and and having a friend show up while I go and smash his car window. Destroy his profit margin :). But no in all seriousness. I am just going to take this and learn from it. No point in getting upset, just need to be more alert and skeptical. Just like how this burger I'm holding is looking suspect...is this real beef? lolzz
[Galaxy S 5 General] kuromusha38:
I don't want to be racist but next time a black guy with a single letter name selling mobile phones in a car park with no receipt at a massive discount... all the hints in the world
[Galaxy S 5 General] LordLugard:
...but you're going to be racist anyway. Next time "anyone" with a single letter name selling mobile phones in a car park with no receipt at a massive discount...all the hints in the world.

There, I fixed it for you.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Sippay:
It looks real. The owner is also trusted and even if its a fake you have money back guarantee from eBay.
[Galaxy S 5 General] D33KK:
How PC of you.
[Galaxy S 5 General] D33KK:
So did I. Bought mine from Three.
[Galaxy S 5 General] polish_pat:
and the bezel is too large, but without already having one, you wouldnt know. Sucks to be you OP, i know how it feel to be screwed, but screwed selling a 1500$ laptop on ebay with a paypal account with a stolen credit card. At least 325$ is bad, but not 3 months rent bad.

I suggest you to watch out on ebay. Like i mentioned above, you can easily get screwed on ebay to. Especially if you do the transaction in person.
[Galaxy S 5 General] magicius:
That china replicas are easy to spot... As soon as you open rear cover u can see.... Also plastic and finish is meh,if.u tap on screen you feel cheap plastic...

When you turn on phone you can clearly see low resolution....

So he did great job,and i dont know why you didnt turn on that ****....

I mean you are buying from a shaddy guy in some parking lot...
[Galaxy S 5 General] JaySoul:
ME TOO!! :(

Hi. New to the forum (although I've been reading for a while).

In a moment of weakness yesterday, I bought a "second hand" Galaxy S5 for £300.

Turns out it's a fake. I'm absolutely gutted. I've bought second hand phones over the years with no problems on eBay. This time I used Gumtree (which is like Craigslist).

Absolutely kicking myself. Although I know that the person selling it is at fault, I also blame myself for being naive. The going rate is between £350 to £400 and I managed to "negotiate" my way down to £300 because she was "desperate to sell as she had bought it for her boyfriend and they broke up" etc etc etc.

In fairness to the Thread Starter, these fakes are extremely good if you don't study them too closely. I just got taken in by the "bargain". Contacted Gumtree and there is nothing they or I can now do. There was no name/address for the seller.

Here are my pictures of shame. I'm not going to sell this on, as I feel like **** and don't want anyone else to feel that way too.

Is there anything I can do to save this situation? Like flashing a decent ROM for it or whatever? It does actually work, so maybe it can just be a very expensive "second phone".

Thanks and feel free to abuse my naivity!
[Galaxy S 5 General] Steven Ramadar:
Doesn't the S5 come with kitkat pre installed?
[Galaxy S 5 General] xaznxplaya:
8 cores o.O
[Galaxy S 5 General] psycho693:
Wow I'm sorry I'm not gonna tell you what you already know. It sucks I have been scammed in a different way before it sucks big time
[Galaxy S 5 General] soupysoup:
Ummn ur a dummy first off, whatever the box says it does have 2gb of ram, 16gb of storage, and it is a Qualcomm Snapdragon processor, the ARCITECTURE is arm-cortex A7, the giveaway though is in about phone section where it says CUSTOM BUILD NUMBER.... Why would Samsung put of devices with a custom build?
[Galaxy S 5 General] elks:
That sucks! But if it's too good to be true... (not helpful, I know).
[Galaxy S 5 General] zincous:
That sucks, I've recently had my phone stolen. Never trust strangers.
[Galaxy S 5 General] andybones:
This is why I only meet those willing to go inside Verizon store. Karma is a b!tch though, he will get his.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Grommish:
Walmart records their parking lots in every Walmart store I've ever been to.

Chances are, there is video,
[Galaxy S 5 General] kuromusha38:
This is not a criminal matter and highly unlikely to result in a conviction even if it is. Police have better things to worry about too.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Grommish:
Since when is Theft by Deception not a criminal matter?
[Galaxy S 5 General] kuromusha38:
how is this "Theft by Deception"?

If this is a criminal matter, then 99% of Paypal dispute are also criminal matters. Do you see Paypal contact the police for that? No it's a civil matter, it's a contractual dispute or tort. You can ask the police to help you track down the person. But no police in the world will give a !@#$ about some guy sell mobile phone not as describe.

Plus it's impossible to prove "criminal intent" in this case, since the phone looks so much like genuine one. "T" guy could well be thinking he's selling a genuine phone himself, and tracking down the guy will cost more the phone itself, so police will not give a !@#$ no matter how you look at it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] wulsic:
Well that pretty much sucks for you and the guy should mentioned it's fake so you actually got scammed.

He probably didn't met home cause then he's house number could be reported to the police. It's good you mention it as fake when you resell it.

I wish you good luck with your next phone and I suggest you to investigate first and ask questionsmto the seller.

Maybe you and the police or somebody can set a trap and find out which car number he has and maybe take incognito a picture. As extra evidence. I don't know the reason why the guy scams you and other people, maybe he doesn't have enough money for taking care of his family, or he just scams people?

Well there are good people and bad people and the tall guy is a bad one probably.
[Galaxy S 5 General] xaznxplaya:
Well said.
[Galaxy S 5 General] johan81:
Good thing here in the Netherlands this is considered to be handled by the police! It is pretty obvious when someone tries to sell you fake stuff at a parking lot under a single digit name that they do it with criminal intent. These kind of scams are pretty easy to solve where I live, the harder to get scammers are the ones that only send you the items (or just take your money and do not even send you the items) since you have no proof of it getting to you or who even sent (or just took your money) you the items.

I cannot believe that in the USA this is considered not criminal, it is pretty obvious.
[Galaxy S 5 General] jeremy.shi:
I don't know about others...but that looks really real to me. I probably wouldn't be able to tell at all by just looking at it unless the screen is really dodgy with low density of pixels.

Have you made a report to the local PD?
[Galaxy S 5 General] xaznxplaya:
It's not consider criminal in Canada Either, its your words against his. How can you really prove it, perhaps for that guy, that s5 is legit.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Grommish:
Florida Statute Chapter 812:

812.012 Definitions.—As used in ss. 812.012-812.037:

Now then, I'm done with the the thread. If the OP decides to report it as the crime it is, so be it. If the local law enforcement decides not to pursue it, that's their call. Much like selling stolen property, ignorance is not an excuse.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vndnguyen:
You guys can easily check if it is fake or original by using this app: Phone INFO ★Samsung★

Go to 'Refurbishment Check' menu.

[IMG="Refurbishment Check"]https://lh6.ggpht.com/-W1GqorW0yG9irL1bs6ghVVPR1ENdFR9NVYTUPQUtusDzX7RGvxFKJyDSYPBLXk2kwM=h900[/IMG]
[Galaxy S 5 General] Taz420nj:
It is flagging my S5 as a refurb - even though it was bought brand new this past saturday from a Sprint Store. It says the serial number is reading 000000000 (does not accept either number from the sticker behind the battery) and it says the IMEI is invalid. It does not show the country of origin.
[Galaxy S 5 General] UnNaMeD__:
Omg, whoever posted here is scammed so bad :( feeling sad.

Next time dail *#06# on your phone and match IMEI with box. If it doesn't, phone is fake or if invalid IMEI phone is again fake.

Check camera quality, screen colors. See if sensors working as expected.
[Galaxy S 5 General] nexy33:
I believe if this happened in the UK trading standards would take an interest and would therefore result in a conviction with the police if someone is handling and selling fake goods.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drteeths:
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[Galaxy S 5 General] vndnguyen:
May be there was some problem with this device, because it works as expected on other devices, as in the attached screenshot.
[Galaxy S 5 General] D33KK:
Nope, I have been scammed once before with a similar but not identical circumstance. The police did f all except tell me 'buyer beware'
[Galaxy S 5 General] nexy33:
they are always busting people here trading fake goods at the markets its very unusual not to see them and the police

Sent from my SM-G900F
[Galaxy S 5 General] 2006ducatis4r:
Sorry to hear about your situation.

* I reside here in California and I also purchased a new S5 for sprint from a person on C.L. He really needed the money and next time, follow these steps.

- Ask for the MEID HEX #

- Contact Sprint to confirm the phone is legit.

- They will also tell you when it was first activated.

* As for my situation, I met the person at an Authorized Sprint Store. They confirmed everything SO then the money exchange was given to the guy. I came up on a new S5 for $350.

:cool:

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Hello,

I was just curious in your POST you mentioned that you used TowelRoot for your Sprint S5?

* I was also interested in rooting my Sprint S5 using this TowelRoot method BUT i never found any confirmation that it would work on our phone. Does this method work?

Thanks

:cool:
[Galaxy S 5 General] navy2012:
I am in the market for an S5. I buy and sell off of CL. But I don't want to get scammed. Replicas are so good nowaday.

I haven't seen any definite factors for determing a REAL vs FAKE. Camera seems to be one factor that can tell the real from a fake.

But still not 100%. I am looking for a defnite way.

This is my idea. I would run antutu benchmark on the device. The result will tell all. Usually S5 result is about 34k (I think). The fake ones

can't do as good. And other information is listed.

Any thought on this idea?
[Galaxy S 5 General] gee2012:
Install an app like Android System Info and/or Phone Info or CPU-Z to analyse and identify the phone.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
This.

Use Phone Info, look for the Knox warranty flag status, copies don't have it (yet).

Also look in cpu - z for obvious things like an Adreno and A7 Cores (no Krait).

Copies usually come with a fake Antutu that gives wrong readings and scores.
[Galaxy S 5 General] MadManMark:
This is good but if the seller doesnt let you open it before sale than you cant do that. ( they may want to keep it bnib)
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
It seems the most common fakes are "G900" without any letter at the end.

Also the IMEI could be present in the box. They all have the same I think.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gee2012:
If you can`t test the phone, let it be and walk away from it mate ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Taz420nj:
Lol yeah except in that case he'll probably pull a gun on you because he knows yo have $350 in cash on you that you are no longer going to give him voluntarily.

Craigslist needs to just go away. At this point there are more thieves, scammers, and prostitutes on it than there are legitimate transactions.

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It was confirmed by many sources to work with the SM-G900P, which is what sprint uses.

Keep in mind towelroot is not a custom ROM, and there are no baked-in toys that come with using it. It also does not change your recovery/bootloader (which is why it does not trip the KNOX warranty fuse). It is /JUST/ root access. You will still have to install SuperSU (to keep root access by programs under control) and Busybox (to ensure compatibility with apps that require root) after you root it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] DesertHawk:
Lol. I bought my S5 for £290. I know if theyre fake or not. The screen on yours was a giveaway. Also when buying a Samsung just check if it can boot into odin mode (power, volume - and home). If it boots into it, its legit. I never need to though as I can differentiate between fakes and real. But I guess I change my phone every month so I know. Feel sorry for you man.

http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/samsung-galaxy-white-s5-sm-g900s-32gb-unlocked/1072168046 - Theres this idiot trying to sell a fake S5 in my area. He thinks its genuine cause it does the about phone Android easter egg. I hope he doesnt scam someone. The MultiWindow in the pic is wrong and also the TW home has the wrong indicators.
[Galaxy S 5 General] 2006ducatis4r:
** Sprint S5 Towel Root **

Thank you for the information. I checked my phone it's a " SM-G900 P ". Your information has helped me alot. Have a nice day. :cool:
[Galaxy S 5 General] jetsetwilly:
I was about to go and buy an S5 off gumtree tomorrow until I read this thread. It's advertised at £279 in Manchester. Think I'll give it a miss now - I had no idea about these. Are there fakes for other manufacturers?

Sent from my LG-F400L

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http://www.gumtree.com/p/for-sale/samsung-galaxy-s5-black/1072493301

Sent from my LG-F400L
[Galaxy S 5 General] burn0u7:
Oh man I seriously know exactly where you are coming from. I feel for you man. This is why i will NEVER buy any device that you have to subscribe to a service for from craigslist. bunch of bastards. My issue was i bought a "Sealed" Galaxy S III for 500 cash when they were going for 800 bucks at the time. It was a legit device in my case but the issue was I was going fine for about a month then i could no longer connect to the network. i called tmobile they at first couldnt figure out why i could not connect then later the idiot rep cold and blind transferred me to the fraud area. i went around with those fools for a bit. they finally told me the reason the device wasnt connecting was because TMO blocked the IMEI permanently forever. the assclown i bought it from never paid his bill and he got 2 phones on credit. so yeah that was fun. TMO told me to piss off they werent going to do anything about it or help in any way. finally i had to buy a Galaxy S III for retail at 700 bucks. keep in mind i already forked out 500. yeah. i wasnt happy. I then posted the blocked phone on craigslist but made sure i was clear that it had a locked IMEI but it was also carrier unlocked. Dude bought the tmo locked phone for 300 so at least i was able to recover something. .
[Galaxy S 5 General] thatsupnow:
You can't be mad at the guy who sold you the phone it's your dumbass fault for not doing a thorough look over. Right away there should have been flags thrown up on the $325 price tag! When the phone is still like 6 bills, nobody and I mean nobody sells a brand new phone for half what it cost unless it's stolen or a fake. You have nobody to blame but yourself and bad t or big t whatever his name was you bought from is having a good laugh and probably had a good night too!
[Galaxy S 5 General] tmaynehassuru:
Not everyone is that knowledgeable. I already took blame in my post by saying I should have looked it over more and researched. However, not everyone does that. Yes I was ignorant, but how can you possibly back that guy up and say what he did was fine? Scamming is still illegal, and I know he scammed me because I called him back and when I told him hey, I believe the phone is fake would you mind giving me my money back, we can go to a t-mobile store and I'll prove it. Before I could finish he hung up, I called back and he hit ignore, I sent a text and no response. The blame is definitely also on this guy, as taking advantage of someone is not okay in any sense. Also just to let you know, I have bought stuff at huge discounts on craigslist from legitimate people, some who are moving away, some who just want to get rid of their unused stuff. I recently bought an xbox 360 slim for $50. I went to the persons house and everything. So no, just because the price is low doesn't guarantee it is a scam or stolen. But yes, you should be more wary of it. Like I said in a moment of desperation, I was not thorough. I will be from now on. But I implore you to rethink of your outlook on those who get scammed. Would you have said the same thing if your grandmother got scammed in this manner? I sincerely hope not sir.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gee2012:
If it sounds too good to be true, it usualy is ;) Learn something from this, don`t make the same misstake again and move on.
[Galaxy S 5 General] josh420669:
That sucks
[Galaxy S 5 General] stanley08:
Okay, I don't mean to sound insensitive to this matter, really sorry it happened to you. I really am. I have been in a similar situation myself.

But, all those talking about the Police, I don't think the Police has anything to do with this matter... You paid for the product and received the product if he took ur money away and gave you nothing, then! The police should be involved.

And looking at that phone in the pic alone, I could tell it was a fake.. Again, sorry mate...
[Galaxy S 5 General] raducanmihai:
In Romania (EU country) this is against the law. It's called cheating and it's punished by law.

You can't argue that he got something for his money! What if he got a dummy S5? Following your way of thinking this would still not be cheating, because he got something?!

The seller advertised it as Samsung Galaxy S5 and it's clearly not. So it's cheating.
[Galaxy S 5 General] xaznxplaya:
What is it then?
[Galaxy S 5 General] TheAndroidN00BIE:
When researching the S5 I stumbled on to many videos about the fakes that are out there.

One of the first things I saw that gave away the fakes was the lack of "Galaxy S5" on the battery cover.

Second, the Samsung name on the top of the display is smaller than normal.

Third, if you look at the charging port cover, there is no rubber on it as with the real one.

Also if you take the battery cover off there is no seal on the fake as with the real one.

As has been said, be leery of low priced phones. If they won't let you open the box, walk away.

Never go alone, and have whomever goes with you hold the money in a secure location while you inspect/verify the product.

Personally, I go to the store of my carrier to get my phones.

Just my spare change.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Secondlaw:
I saw one on CList for 550 obo. I offered 350 he came down to 450. I told him 400 and that's the final offer. He accepted.

When I got there, I waited 10 minutes and when he pulled up I took a picture of his car with his license plate number.

I checked the phone out pretty good. Put my SIM card in the phone to make sure I could make calls, etc.... CPU-Z gave the same results as my GS5.

Clist isn't always bad but thanks for the story. If I ever buy on Clist again, I'll definitely have your story in mind.
[Galaxy S 5 General] estoydadude:
Every penny counts, don't expect you can spend less money to get ultra high value products... the chance is one of million...
[Galaxy S 5 General] duykhang524:
Look at the flash of the fake one, it is very yellow compared to an original and the fake doesn't have the water seals in the charging port and back cover.
[Galaxy S 5 General] bigtexan99:
I got a genuine S5 on CL for $350. He was asking 4, but he came down. We met at a best buy, and we went inside and I compared the phone side by side with a store model to be sure it was not a fake!
[Galaxy S 5 General] BadKarma81:
Interesting! Wonder where he got the fakey from!
[Galaxy S 5 General] omegajester:
Mine does not say Galaxy S5, it just says 4G. It's a genuine G900W8. So does my girlfriend's, and 6 of my friends...
[Galaxy S 5 General] bartela:
First, Galaxy S5 is not on all versions. Second, best way to see if it is fake, launch camera and you will see crappy chinese interface. I now cause saw many s3, s4 and s5 fake phones and no one had close something similar to original software. It looked f....g bad and ugly. Phone can be good fake but camera software never lies :D Little study of original staff before and you are good to go. Hope it helps.
[Galaxy S 5 General] danielbulan97:
Meh, just look at the second image with the back of the box. Look at the line ''2.5GHz Quad Core

processor

'' You can clearly see that its different from the rest. That is where i figured out instantly that is fake.