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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] kpirnie:
I'm not even really sure if this is related to each other or not.

I was OTA'd to NB1 back when I got my phone, so I updated to NC1, and rooted with Towelroot, installed SuperSU, installed SafeStrap 3.72

Now, I've had another i337 as well, and noticed it with that too, after having to ODIN to stock NB1.

It seems that I can no longer make a SafeStrap backup anymore... post Towelroot'ing. Where as, when I did the downgrade to (crippled) MK2, rooted via Saferoot, got back up to NC1 ROM, with SafeStrap, I could.

Has anyone seen this issue? Are they even related? Is there anyway to fix it?
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
PLACE YOUR ANDROID L DISCUSSION ALL IN THIS THREAD

Videos:

Google I/O June 24th 2014 - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtLJPvx7-ys

Current features noted:

- New UI design (new softkeys, keyboard, colors, headers, launcher, dialer)

- New Material Design (new design guidelines also)

- Heads up

- Even more google now/search all over the place

- New Recents with chrome tab integration

- New drawables and materials

- Malware protection and security improvements

- Project Voltz / Battery saving mode

- Smart unlock

- ART By default

- Bluetooth 4.1

- Chrome with new materials and drawables

- Android wear integration & Android wear SDK

- GPU improvements - Tessellation and more

- 64bit support (more ram support)

- Job Scheduler

- Lock screen notifications

- Android Auto + Android Auto SDK

- Android in the Home

- Android TV

- Googlecast/Chromecast improvements

- Chromebook integrations

- Native Docs support with Google Docs

- And much much much more

PREVIEW BUILDS FOR NEXUS 5 WILL BE RELEASED ALONG WITH ANDROID L SDK PREVIEW ON JUNE 26th TO DEVELOPERS
[Nexus 5 General] Cum:
Want facotry image! NOW!
[Nexus 5 General] hahajoker:
Awesome that Google is releasing factory images for Nexus devices ahead of the fall release. Similar to Apple's development releases.
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
IKR i want the factory images now as well :D but its set to release tmrw... wont sleep tonight, lol, ;)
[Nexus 5 General] inffy:
Guess those images are only for developers or will they be publicly available? :)
[Nexus 5 General] hahajoker:
Publicly available for Nexus 5 and 7 was my understanding.
[Nexus 5 General] heartblasts:
Hop so
[Nexus 5 General] Cum:
Im sure we'll have a devloper here who will share it ;)
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
All they have said so far is available for devs at http://developer.android.com/index.html for Nexus 5, so im guessing publicly available? ;) and about Nexus 7 or any other devices idk, im watching the stream now and its awesome! :)
[Nexus 5 General] PunkOz:
Is the official release tomorrow or until november? Or it'll be a developer build?
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
dev build is released tmrw, :)
[Nexus 5 General] PeK_m:
I think images are only for developers, but I think we got some devs here who will release image for rest of us... Hope so...
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
i agree but he did say that it will be on android dev.com ;) so i think it might be available for us to mess with :D
[Nexus 5 General] olfyboy:
What exactly is a developer build? Is it just a normal build that is just available to developers, or is it some sort of demo with limited features?

Edit: fixed typo
[Nexus 5 General] nyyankees1237:
Can't believe we will be running Android L tomorrow. Week made
[Nexus 5 General] hamad138:
Its like ios beta
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
im not sure, my money is on a "some sort pf demo with limited features" otherwise they could just release Android L right now :)
[Nexus 5 General] SplitCold:
I agree this is awesome!
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
:D ikr, but im still not sure if its a full build or a limited one :)
[Nexus 5 General] DiamondBond:
meh not really, but if u say so ;)
[Nexus 5 General] Vertis42:
Maybe it's real "candy" name? Haha
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
"omg haaaallllppppppp I put androidL on my nexus 5 I used x toolkit and my phone is brick????? plzzz helpp :crying: :( :crying:"

If you haven't noticed already, most people here are strongly against toolkits as they do not teach you the basics of fastboot/adb and are made for the "lazy" people who aren't willing to learn, ones who take the risk of a "toolkit" doing "it's magic" on their device which they paid money for, without knowing what it's actually doing. Hell I'm willing to bet half of them don't even know what root access is, and just want to make their phone "cool".
[Nexus 5 General] jetbruceli:
I am wondering if Google plans on making efused knox a part of future devices like Samsung. I left Samsung mainly because they refused to fix my note 3 because I tripped Knox.

forget the thanks button, I want a high five!
[Nexus 5 General] Kookitza:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-l-release-including-samsung-knox-integration

:crying:
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Pretty sure by that they just mean the KNOX "security features for enterprise" that Samsung devices have, not really the whole "trip Knox" thing. I'm sure it's bad news for people who own Samsung devices though, with their silly locked bootloaders. Google gave us "fastboot oem unlock" lol so it doesn't really matter to us.
[Nexus 5 General] shhbz:
thats sound ob-knox-ious this was the reason i left samsung and its bloated crappy framework and ui.

i believe google wont do the same mistake just to integrate these security stuff until and unless they are ready to accept warranty at lg and at Google even if something trips on the bootloader end
[Nexus 5 General] djovani_:
I guess there is no always listening feature, no meter of google now integration ?
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
You sure this isn't just for businesses? I saw the word business and company thrown around a lot. I'm not familiar with knox.
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
please promise not to do that

just follow a proper guide,

this thread is not really the place for a tut
[Nexus 5 General] hikarugo:
Well don't forget the commits guys. Perhaps we won't be able to root our devices tomorrow.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Knox is either their enterprise/business security features or the warranty-tripping/flash counter thing. Two different things, pretty sure that article just refers to the enterprise part. https://www.samsungknox.com/en
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
I have a feeling it won't be that hard. This is a Nexus device after all.
[Nexus 5 General] absoluterebirth:
When the images drop tomorrow and we flash them, would we be able to use the "delete -w" technique to, I guess, "dirty flash" the factory image? I rather not have to lose all my data and I'm not sure if root and TiBu will be working tomorrow on L.
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
That's what I thought. I don't think Google is going to put that warranty tripping thing on their Nexus devices.

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I wouldn't dirty flash. But you can always try it first. If it doesnt work, start over and flash everything (which will wipe). Just backup your data.
[Nexus 5 General] mike760534211:
i would tend to agree since the the knox emm creates containers for apps to run in that are managed by the company basically siloing them from the rest of the system and thus protecting their data.

i cant see google putting something in the os on their phone that you are allowed to unlock and do with as you please for the most part with out killing your warranty.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Makes no sense to do so since we have "fastboot oem unlock" :p and Google honors warranty even if you have a custom ROM/unlocked bootloader as long as it's a legitimate hardware fault and not something that came up because of what you put on it.
[Nexus 5 General] luisangel89:
I've never been more excited for an update them I am today! Can't wait for the new update!!!!! Will kick apples rear end!
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Yeah, it makes no sense. See above :good:
[Nexus 5 General] bitdomo:
I am on the same opinion. One of my friend had some issues with his nexus 5. He called google what to do. Google told him try to unlock bootloader and reflash factory images an relock bootloader. If the problem still present or he dont want to reflash stock then send back the device and he will get his replacement device.
[Nexus 5 General] Vortex1969:
I really don't care if I tripped a flash counter. And there is a script to reset the flash counter on Samsung phone. I know I did it goes right back to zero.

A nexus phone is almost impossible to brick and even if you do there has never been one I couldn't fix.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
There's a warranty-counter and flash counter. There are ways to reset the flash counter but no ways to reset the warranty-counter (as far as XDA knows).
[Nexus 5 General] drsoran2:
A couple of questions, pros and cons:

Is Android L 64bit?

Can it be rooted without unlocking bootloader and stuff (a bit early to ask but I still hope it can be done as I would like to keep the control over my device and fine tune it)

What about the SD card restrictions, ehhm, I mean "enhancements" which were introduced with KitKat. Is there any word on this? Are they even more restricted, the same or more relaxed?

Pros:

Better Battery Live is always welcome

Data Privacy Settings for Apps looks interesting

Heads Up Notifications as well, I'm trying them out on my Xperia Z1 right now and see how they are and if I like them.

Couple of other things I forgot to mention

Cons:

New rounder design, multitasking view. I don't like it. To round and childish, multitasking to cluttered, seems slower to use.

The new softkey button designs...butt ugly. Looks like a Playstation Controller buttons on a phone.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Just unlock your bootloader, it's not even a big deal.
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
More of an Xbox guy huh? I like the new look. Can't wait for tomorrow. I feel like a kid on Christmas eve!!
[Nexus 5 General] mike760534211:
i know that feel....might not even be able to sleep tonight.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
It's a developer preview and not meant to be used as a daily driver, I'm guessing. Just make a backup of your current stuff and don't bother trying to "dirty flash" or restore your stuff to L.
[Nexus 5 General] Devhux:
Android L will support 64-bit devices, but right now there are no 64-bit capable Android devices on the market
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
Yeah. The option SHOULD always be there. A lot of manufacturers have the option. I think even iPhone users have an option to hook their phones up to iTunes and restore a factory image type of thing to get them back to normal if anything goes wrong. If you ever send a phone in to get fixed, that's pretty much all they do for you anyway unless its a hardware issue.
[Nexus 5 General] lowtje:
Google needs to step up their game with a backup function in Android. I love my Android device, but the way I can restore my iPad after a clean install is just great. I don't wan't to install en setup all my apps and accounts after a new flash.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Pretty sure there already is.. lol, sync
[Nexus 5 General] lowtje:
That just downloads all your apps and does nothing. I just want to restore and go back to my backupped state. Android really misses that.
[Nexus 5 General] asd87:
I guess I'm a fanboy because I'm loving all the new changes. I'm sure someone will make a flashable zip to test out.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
It's not that hard to flash .imgs lol, why does there have to be a .zip? If anything a .zip will probably cause problems because people will try to dirty flash >->
[Nexus 5 General] asd87:
My computer for some reason won't recognize the drivers anymore. I spent hours trying to get my computer to recognize the device with no luck. So a zip would be ideal and if some one dirty flashes and messes up their phone then, that's their problem.
[Nexus 5 General] Elluel:
Meh, I don't see why people have issues with drivers, I've never had any issues across 7/8/8.1/8.1U1. Or just use a Linux distro and you won't need drivers xD
[Nexus 5 General] asd87:
Flashing zips makes it easier to restore backups on the fly as well. Just a preference.
[Nexus 5 General] vercety974:
Il will wait for a flashable .zip too. That is not hard to flash with fastboot but for me TWRP is the best way to flash. No need to reflash the recovery after the rom.

Envoyé de mon Nexus 5 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] ShadowSoul:
Do you think it will be possible to use L with multirom?
[Nexus 5 General] mokash34:
Not sure why people have preferences
[Nexus 5 General] Enhanced:
Plenty of people have driver issues. You are trying to connect a device to another device -- problems are bound to arise. It's quite narrow minded of you to just assume that because you don't have any issues, that such an issue is silly. Just Google "[phone] not recognized by Mac/Windows" and you'll get a million hits.

I have Windows 8 and 8.1 on my laptop and desktop and both don't detect my Nexus 5 anymore. It sucks and I'm far from a new user with this sort of stuff.
[Nexus 5 General] lusephur:
Titanium backup. Unless there is some issue with it. (Haven't used it in some time. )
[Nexus 5 General] rancur3p1c:
don't like the stacked recents. that isn't going to work nicely IMHO. I like it to be cleare and easy to get to. Having them layered like that looks too complicated.
[Nexus 5 General] BigD18t:
I run 8.1 and it detects my nexus fine, I know people are against till kits but wugs from memory will download all the drivers needed to run it.
[Nexus 5 General] shr33kant:
http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/help/diagnosing-usb-driver-adb-issues-windows-t2514396

If anyone is having problems getting adb or fastboot to work on their PC etc,. see the thread above. Just install the Android SDK and only select platform-tools and usb driver and install them. Job done.
[Nexus 5 General] nyyankees1237:
I wonder if the Dev preview will just consist of the underlying framework and core functionality of the new OS or if it will include everything like a new launcher, new icons, new look and feel, etc.
[Nexus 5 General] Mextur:
What timezone do they use? San Fransisco his?
[Nexus 5 General] cnrd:
So i'm just throwing this out there, Google Auto on a tablet connected to a phone by usb OTG or wireless/bluetooth.

Would that even be possible? I guess it would as Android Auto is really just screen mirroring and a way to launch the app...
[Nexus 5 General] bomdia:
sanfrancisco is -8 is 15:16
[Nexus 5 General] itasoulas:
Nexus Factory Images Page now comes with instructions of how to unlock bootloader and flash images???????? Or was it there all the time and haven't noticed it before? :)))
[Nexus 5 General] Mextur:
Well that sucks. It's already 26 june here.
[Nexus 5 General] pathtologos:
Hey all! Looks like I'm late to the party! That presentation looked SWEET! My understanding was that the developer preview wouldn't be for EVERYONE with a nexus device, right? only developers. Right?
[Nexus 5 General] bomdia:
same in italy im :crying::crying::crying::crying:
[Nexus 5 General] Mextur:
Just take a nap. And there it is.

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Its been there already for a while
[Nexus 5 General] bomdia:
im to excited to sleep a little semi ot i want a lg g watch
[Nexus 5 General] jsgraphicart:
I'm sure it will have everything we saw today.
[Nexus 5 General] acheney1990:
Yeah from what I've seen I like the new nav buttons too.

Sent From My Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] noobdeagle:
i would assume it would be a branch of what they used on the stage demos. hence id imagine it would include everything we saw at io.
[Nexus 5 General] bomdia:
i want a LG G WATCH i know is a little bit ot but ...
[Nexus 5 General] jetbruceli:
Its not released yet and I am sure u will need to flash it like any other stock image
[Nexus 5 General] yooitschuck:
Really liked everything I saw at the conference today, made me wish I got a Chromebook pixel
[Nexus 5 General] Mextur:
Use the Factory Images site. Its freaking simple.

Also the keyboard is redesigned. And at the notification area do you have popups for settings like bluetooth scan. Also mobile data usage will be displayed.

The main feature for me are the lockscreen notifications. :)
[Nexus 5 General] bitdomo:
I am preparing myself mentaly to be able to stand the 1000 + 1 "help how to flash android L threads"

If some one missed the part of the IO when android L was shown then watch this Google I/O 2014 - Keynote: http://youtu.be/wtLJPvx7-ys from the 40th minute.
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
I'm trying to get another nexus now Lol try and sell this G2 i only just got ffs damn you Google!
[Nexus 5 General] jfcooley:
I'vemoved on to the M8, but glad I kept my N5. Charging now to be ready for tomorrow. May install on N7 as well...
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
the M8 is a nice phone tho isn't there a GPE version of it? asking cause I know you can convert the M7 to a GPE. I had to take my N5 back due to a screen problem on monday there and ended up having to get another phone cause there was no nexus in stock so had to go with the G2 :(
[Nexus 5 General] jfcooley:
There is a GPE, and a port for my carrier..Sprint. (I know..)

I've actually taken a break from AOSP for a bit, Sense 6 isn't as offensive as other UI overlays

Had a G2, liked it a lot. Actually got the N5 when I took the G2 in for service after I managed to brick it. Theyreplaced it with a new one and iIdecided to sell and keep the N5.

I switched just...well iI could really. Not bragging, just had another line upgrade and went with it.
[Nexus 5 General] md1008:
Anyone know if Hangouts is going to mentioned. Been hearing rumors of I message like features ever since it replaced "talk"
[Nexus 5 General] Rox598:
Haven't used sense since the sensation times but it does look rather nice and tbh LG's isn't that bad either the only thing i have against LGs is that really messy notification area there#s too much crap in there. i'd keep the G2 if it wasn't for the fact of having to wait for the L release and then having carriers ruin it with their overlays. I don't mind using Cyanogen etc if needed but who knows how long that'll take and since I have ADHD my patience is low as it is xD

can't comment on sprint stuff since we don't have it here lol

Be interesting to see what OEM do to the overlay on this when it eventually comes out since google are trying to get a unified experience they can't really do that with the other skins
[Nexus 5 General] arby80:
About time to break custom roms, introduce new bugs and bring back old ones.
[Nexus 5 General] galaxys:
Interesting L i/o info, but I'm flashing LSD tomorrow! :D
[Nexus 5 General] md1008:
My guess is that OEMS will be much the same. They are unifying android through their google play services and apps. I wouldn't think Samsung would like it if Google said no touchwiz interface. Samsung is obviously a big deal. Of course Samsung doesn't want to lose google apps so I would assume between the two their is a give and take relationship
[Nexus 5 General] Spider_Pig27:
For those asking hwo to properfly flash the stock img here you go

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/tutorial-how-to-flash-factory-image-t2513701

Even I myself was confused but this answered it all
[Nexus 5 General] k0lega:
I am so happy to have this phone. We get the front seat to Android L. I was in the nexus 4 forums today and those poor guys have to wait until a port or official release!
[Nexus 5 General] Kevin Goot:
So by flashing the development version do we lose all our data?
[Nexus 5 General] aooga:
Has nothing to do with searching this thread, but yes all data will be lost.
[Nexus 5 General] Kevin Goot:
I appreciate the kind response. Unlike our other friend over there...

Can't wait for tomorrow
[Nexus 5 General] tdonnelly0987:
Does anyone know if shooting RAW images will be supported? I know it was talked about a few months ago. This would be a huge advantage over iphones if you are a photographer.
[Nexus 5 General] c_brown93:
Will devs here be able to make a flashable ROM of Android L since source won't be released tomorrow, only a beta developer preview?
[Nexus 5 General] aooga:
Probably.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
Isn't that what everyone is getting? A preview I mean. The official release isn't ready yet. Otherwise they wouldn't be waiting a couple of months.
[Nexus 5 General] c_brown93:
No I was asking if someone would be able to make a flashable ROM of the developer preview or if it would be manditory to fastboot flash it the factory image.
[Nexus 5 General] c_brown93:
I know. Android L has everyone freaking out and all in a bunch.
[Nexus 5 General] khaledgomgoma:
Is this Android 5.0 or 4.5 , I watched the full event and they didn't consider announcing that?
[Nexus 5 General] El Daddy:
Hey guys, just like the pre-release 4.4.3 discussion thread, this thread is going in the wrong direction. Please stay on-topic from here on. We don't want to come back here every few hours to clean up. If this continues, this thread will be closed.

Please search the thread before asking questions. There's a 99% chance it has been answered. If you see a Forum Rules violation, just report it, move on, and don't get caught up in it.

Thread Cleaned.

Thanks,

El Daddy
[Nexus 5 General] K Rich:
I can't wait until this tread explodes with problems. Google really should have a restraint on who can and cannot flash a DEVELOPER preview ROM, which I'm sure is going to be full of bugs, considering it's really not meant for the general public.

/rant over. Open the flood gates.
[Nexus 5 General] frozenhotchocolate:
I would imagine this release to have similar stability to an iOS beta release, which is a rather large level of functionality. Most of the issues will just be people not knowing how to flash without a zip. Nothing new.
[Nexus 5 General] Ahmed_iAM:
I'll still download android L to try out. If I Dont like it I will just go back to stock 4.4.4
[Nexus 5 General] El Daddy:
Nobody knows. Google never said.
[Nexus 5 General] K Rich:
I'm sure it will be relatively stable, its just frustrating when people clearly shouldn't be flashing ROMs that are beta/developer preview when they don't have a full understanding what they are doing. Oh well, I guess we'll see what happens.
[Nexus 5 General] Mynix:
Actually.. During the ''Make Google Services Rock" presentation (something like that), the man said several times (if I'm not wrong), "Google Services in Android 5.0"

But he may have just said "Google Service 5.0" :/

Anyways, considering the size of the update, for me it's 95% Android 5.0
[Nexus 5 General] WythDryden:
That could still mean the official release in the fall though. Until we actually get our hands on it tomorrow, we're not going to know for sure.
[Nexus 5 General] miguepereira77:
I'm sorry if this was already posted (Tapatalk search sucks we all know) but here's a bunch of screenies:

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/06/2...-upcoming-app-updates-in-android-l-previewed/

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] El Daddy:
Well the Google Play Services 5.0 was released tonight. I think that's what he was referring to. It is likely Android will get a bump to 5.0 in the fall though.
[Nexus 5 General] leuuuuu:
About 64-bit support, if that is native, android will emulate the 32-bit?
[Nexus 5 General] Spider_Pig27:
I love it
[Nexus 5 General] miguepereira77:
Yeah me too, actually only a couple of things are not to my taste, the softkeys and the yellow sliders but hey! I will probably get used to it

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] adiliyo:
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! i can't wait! i hope their servers can handle the load!
[Nexus 5 General] Spider_Pig27:
Same here but once development rolls for it in sure the color for that would chnage