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[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
So Sony aren't famous for bringing out update to devices quickly

When do you think they'll release it for the z2?

My opinion? Next year, they've already teased the Z3 or " the next big thing" coming in Q4 which will probably have android L on top

I'd love to see what you guys think

J
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
I don't think Z3 will have L. If it does, Z2 will get it just a month after the unveiling of the Z3.

PS Android L isn't even out yet, its still in dev preview. It'll take around 2-3 months for it to be finalized I believe. 3 weeks at minimum.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
I agree. I can't wait to give it a go on my nexus 7 :p

J
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funky0308:
Don't be so sure Z2 will get everything Z3 will have.

I bought Z2 and still have Z1 and believe me, Z1 doesn't have many things (at least not officially) Z2 have.

That's the Sony (new) policy...

6 month cycle and push new device like crazy for the few first months, then they forget that device and put all their capacities to new device....

That's the life...we'll have to accept that...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pokerfake:
I'm just waiting 'til a new CM or carbon rom comes out with Android L.

Sony has been not doing well with ART, so it will take a while for Sony to roll out Android L, I think.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Einride:
I doubt we'll see L on the Z2 this year, not from Sony at least.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deezid:
They have to put an ugly old-fashioned skin on it first...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] One Twelve:
18 month support from sony for a flagship. Similar with samsung.

How long is CM taking to get kitkat stable which came out last Nov, over 6 months plus and still not there.

Less important than if they will do it. They will.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Well, Z1 did receive Kitkat right after a month Z2 was unveiled. Here we are discussing next version of Android, not all the goodies.

Ofcourse most goodies will be there, I think Z has ALL the goodies Z1 has. Although Sony does release two flagships a year, the main focus is always the first one than the later.

Like Arc, S, Z and now Z2.

While Arc S, T, Z1 aren't so popular ones.

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The TouchWhiz and Sense are quiet old too. The only competitor I can think of which brings a new UI almost every year is LG.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedddx:
Your roast lamb tonight will need 1-2 hours more cooking time, 30 minutes minimum.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
I don't eat lamb. :o
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badelemental:
After checking out Android L I think it will be best for OEMs to ditch their skins and add addons using Play Store. Well as for Z2 goes our hope lies on CM and FXP team.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamalmawa:
View attachment 2819141 android L wallpaper if anyone wants it. ;)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
Thanks it looks good
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedddx:
It reminds me of a gutter on the side of a house.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stanley08:
Meanwhile, Xperia Z1 Compact surprisingly gets 4.4.4 :p

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53709227
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pokerfake:
Touchwiz renewed for more flat design this year. Also, Sense changed its style for Sense 6.

It's only Sony that hasn't changed its design for years
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Xperias are always given a update contract which lasts anywhere between 6-36months Xperia Z2 is a flagship device meaning that it should get 1 year atleast and android L Is releasing soon so Z2 has to get
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badelemental:
Yeah man, Sony needs to update their UI style. But I would say they dump it in next update and bring stock. That will speed up the update time. I want them to follow Motorola way. See how quickly Moto G got the update to KitKat.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
What changes did Sense 6 bring? o.O
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badelemental:
It was a bit more flat and colorful... LOL ?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
That's a joke right? You can't even pick specific colors for specific apps. -_-
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
How does that make any sense? XD

J
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Exactly, HTC's OS doesn't make any sense. With that said, I'm desperately waiting to purchase a Z2 again. :laugh:
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pokerfake:
[IMG="HTC Sense vs Sony Kitkat UI"]http://i.imgur.com/2rOBtuI.jpg[/IMG]

Sense got that more simple UI while Sony is still behind.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonmorris:
I am not sure it matters if Sony changes the look of some of its widgets, which are about the only things that stand out from one phone to another. The rest of the UI is virtually native Android, but you have got a fair degree of control with themes (but so far, Sony hasn't opted to make a theme generation available to the consumer - which would probably see loads of creative themes released. It would be good if Sony also allowed fonts to be changed, but maybe Sony doesn't want its devices looking extremely tacky, as is so easy to achieve on an HTC, Samsung, LG etc).

The only thing Sony really has that hasn't changed that much is the launcher, although it did get updated to have the slide in menu, along with the album and so on. In fact, come to think of it, they've actually had a lot of updates in the last six months - so Sony hasn't just sat idly by at all.

There are now so many other launchers to choose from, including Google Now and the many third-parties from ages ago, to some interesting stuff from Nokia, Yahoo, and the other themed launchers that will give you any style you care for.

About the ONLY reason for Sony to revamp things is because the basic home screen is what you see on all of the Sony marketing material, YouTube videos etc - and the 'out of the box' reviews. All of these can make the phone look rather basic in comparison, but anyone can customise the phone in a matter of minutes.

Android L will of course be a radical change. Yet, Sony generally does a pretty good job of working around things, as it has done with the big steps from Android 1.6 to 2.x to today.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] badelemental:
Haha... But atleast some default status color is defined for system Apps right :P
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cheetah2k:
Interesting Z1 Compact just got 4.4.4......
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Simple UI? O.o

If you prefer "Simple UI" you should switch to a feature phone, or iOS.

IMHO Sense 6 still isn't a mature UI.

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Yup :p They call them "themes". Not even close to Xperia Themes. But AGES behind! XD
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
Again?!

J
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Long story short.

I was idiot so I returned my Z2(I thought of misaligned cam as a major issue, when it wasn't and everyone had it) , got refund. Purchased M8, got bored within the first hour, HUGE dissappointment, now I'm going for Z2 again, just waiting for a little price drop where I live. :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrhizzo:
Big surprise for me: Sony release yesterday/today the Kit Kat 4.4.4 for Z1 Compact.

Yes, I know this thread is for the Z2, but I have both.

And the camera now is stunning. Really impressive.

I hope this update came to Z2 soon. Really soon.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
Can you not return it and exchange it? ;)

J
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Already applied for return. The very same day. :p

HTC guy called, I told him I'm not satisfied with the product, after a little argument it all ended with "Sir, we simply don't care if you're satisfied or not, that's not our problem"

PS For those who think Xperia UI is dull and boring, its miles ahead of others. So far ahead that even google and other OEMs borrow from Sony. Like the transparent notifcations bar in Kitkat and the PS style buttons in the Android L. ;)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
So the moral of the story is, stick with a Sony? :p
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Exactly. ;)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Im going to have to agree with sticking with sony

Nokia 3310>Nokia N95> Sony Xperia S > Sony Xperia Z2

Only 4 phones but i loved the Xperias the most

Ive found that sony products are just insainely tough and decent quality, so anyone who wants to buy a sony, this thread is proof they are generaly good
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedddx:
HTC android software is much better than sony.

1)sony email app can not turn off group of messages

2)sony alarm app lacks option to turn off ascending volume

3)sony calendar app is as useless as tits on a bull. It wastes half the screen with pointless icons, it truncated titles with no ability to expand to read everything

4)sony calendar widget says an event going from 9am to 5pm is 9am to 5am

5)Quicktiles lacks many common tiles eg torch function, gps toggle, etc.

6)no torch app built in?

7)sony dlna throw function does not work with most TV's

8)audio only from bottom speaker

9)lack of setting to set default alarm tone

10)slow clunky alarm interface to set alarm times and that horrid analogue clock?!

11)searching in email app will mean you can not open an attachment

12)what's with soundpicker showing the artist if more than half the included files lack the tagging. Now you have a random mixture of display types for your stock list. That is how you make a controlled list of files look ugly.

13)similar to 12 half the included wallpapers include colour banding issues. You would think the out of box experience with its controlled fileset would be perfect for this device, but they are not.

14)x-reality and noise cancelling headphones features do not appear to work on both my locked or unlocked

.402 z2's

Basically everything sony touched is broken or lacks core settings every other android distribution offers.

I am sure if i thought about it longer there will be many more examples of where HTC software is better.

I love this phone still but HTC is lightyears ahead of sony when it comes to the software side of things.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonmorris:
The majority of those things aren't big deals, and the lack of a torch app or widget can be fixed quicker than I can probably write this sentence!

Admittedly, I don't use anything but the Gmail app for email, and wish I was better organised to put everything in a calendar (for now, I generally add things via my desktop and just let it sync - which works fine).

Having (for now) access on my desk to a G3, Z2, Z1 Compact (well my wife has this now), GS5, Nexus 5, M8, Moto E and Moto G - I think I prefer the least customised handsets. In last place from that list is definitely the Samsung.

For me, I'm considering getting the Play Edition software for as many devices as I can (well, for those devices I can keep!) as I would rather not have any custom apps on any of them. The Nexus 5 is ideal, but poor battery life, an acceptable but not fantastic camera, and a few other things means it's consigned most of the time to being a Satnav/Spotify player in my car and not used for anything else at all. This might change if I decide to throw Android L on it to play around with though!
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] twistedddx:
Most problems can be worked around, but that is hardly the point.

Why does Sony include a bunch of apps that are fundamentally broken then forget to include apps like Torch? Why not just use AOSP versions of the apps or not include any apps and let the user work it out?

Sony has probably fiddled with less things in Android than Samsung and HTC do, but the few things Sony did touch they broke.

Software issues I class as non-minor

-Email app: so useless it is unusable (I turned to K-9)

-Calendar app: so useless it is unusable (I turned to Google Calendar)

-Dialer app: broken for several users (others turned to other dialers from Play Store)

-Charge LED: annoys every stock user every night (I turned to Xposed framework -> Disable Charging LED)

-Promoted features like X-Reality, Noise Cancelling headphones, DLNA throw and stereo speakers features are broken on the update that is being offered to the majority of users at the moment.

The other issues are relatively small but Sony seems to make them appear huge seems as after months of bug fixes in 4 or so software updates, they still have not been able to fix them.

I would not stand over here throwing stones at HTC's software while the Sony offering is seriously lacking.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Oddly the only thing my Z2 lacks is the lack of the Sony Browser, chrome and Firefox are crap on android, much prefer desktop firefox

I got the sony torch app so thats that

N i found that since my unit is a good batch unit i have 0 issues, no dithering issues no anti aliasing n banding even 4k recording isn n issue for me, i was recording for 15 mins n ran out of space without overheating

Conclusion is that Xperia Z2 is to get Android 5.0 and that the Z2 is perfect for me, although being made of mostly glass n some aluminum this phone is tough and it doesnt feel empty neither over saturated with features, i also find the Firmware mostly problematic because of 4.4.2 bugs which are fixed in 4.4.3 and 4.4.4 (yet people blame sony for not patching googles issues )

I find that the issues people are having are faulty devices or just over-exageration

Any xperia Under 2 years old should get android 5.0 or "L" including premium xperias past 2 years

Excuse any of my poor english
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremy.shi:
I don't understand...Sony seems to be the only company that rolls out system updates for the older models first and leaving the new flagship phone with problems that can be easily fixed by a software update. >:(
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonmorris:
I do find that a number of camera issues are a real pain, given how good they've got the camera at long last. Overheating even for stills, the camera failing to launch from standby etc. If it was just the 4K recording, it wouldn't be so bad (and why not simply impose the 5 minute limit the other phones doing 4K have?)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
All I read in that was Alarm and Calender, I don't use either tbh, I don't like waking up to loud tunes thus if I want to wake up by an alarm I'd prefer the smart band.

About torch app maybe its region specific? My Z2 came with a torch app pre-installed, with SOS functionality.

Although the issues you mentioned are quiet minor I can mention the fields HTC majorly lacks in and falls back years behind Sony's firmware, the major ones being the Keyboard, Small apps, Sony apps like Walkman, Album etc and mainly customizations to the looks of the S/W.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremy.shi:
lol wanna swap? i'm sick of waiting for updates from sony.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Haha 4.4.4 is near for Sony. :p Z1, Z1C and Z Ultra already have them! My M8 is still on 4.4.2 :/

About older flagships getting them first, maybe its so the bugs can be taken care of before the main flagship gets it. ;)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremy.shi:
I surely hope so...and I hope they finally fix the hypersensitive screen issue. The touch screen is still horrible on .402 :(

To be honest, I don't care about the updates if my device actually works properly. Unfortunately, it does not and it's just getting frustrating. I will definitely think twice before buying another sony product...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sharingspider:
PlayStore Installer for Android L Keyboard

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.shenye.android.inputmethod.latin
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamalmawa:
Android L theme for xperia devices https://mega.co.nz/#!dRxWGIpD!3-NaF-L1kw1kIHvVUecmSbTk1L0krwG2SEevVqLg7Yw
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
Doesn't work
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cchant:
Go into advanced options and choose material
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funky0308:
I would really like to see navigation bar changer (size w/h) and font changer (just a few fonts)

I really think this is better then stock nav bar and fonts.

That's something Sony could add without any problems and I really can't understand why they don't want to add it...

90% of users wouldn't root their devices if they have only that...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harshad_kp:
so what all is themed in this theme... can you post some photos...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jiyeon90:
That's the Android L keyboard?

Lol, talk about copying SwiftKey
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
http://pocketnow.com/2014/06/27/sony-android-4-4-4-updates

What's the issue with your device btw? :p
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funky0308:
Who made this theme?

All I saw on XDA was just stock theme with L nav bar icons and wallpaper...

Don't want to be rude but that's not theming...

You can do that without theme?!?

Edit:

Lolipop...yeah...That's what I thought..
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamalmawa:
Found it on xperiablog.net they didn't mentioned the source.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
I think when people think the Z2 is getting 4.4.4 they may be wrong

It would be a waste of time to patch the firmware for 4.4.4 when Android L is so close so direct update for Z2 then older devices or so says "guy who claims to work at sony"
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamalmawa:
4.4.2 to 4.4.4 is a minor android update mostly bug fixes and security patches. So it doesn't take much development time for Sony. But android L on the other hand is major update with running ART as the default runtime which will need more development time for Sony devs. Android L still on development and by the time final source out and Sony release it for their devices it will be next year. Are you going to be happy that Sony won't release any updates for another 6 months?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Well i know for a fact sony is already working on it because dev sources are avaliable lest i checked

It should take quite a few months because none of the sony UI works on art so a few days per app and thats about 200 apks to do alone
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JackHanAnLG:
Where did you get this info?

J
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Mostly self explanitory however some of this info is avaliable via XDA, googling,xperia blog and sony developer wold
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jiyeon90:
My Z1 now runs a lot cooler thanks to 4.4.4 ?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamalmawa:
you here to make us jealous or something ? lol.. We will get it next week but I'm quite surprised Z1 & Z Ultra received a higher build Android version before Z2 ;)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
Haha, Your funny!

I know im not jellous because Z2 gets Android 5.0 First
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheOnlyIntruder:
Personally I hope Sony don't move to this flat and pastel looking design most people seem to be going for. I mean, android stock now looking like a child from the 70s drew it, that teal/turqouise colouring is so ugly. Same with sense as well, I had the One X and when it received Sense 5 I rolled back because of how ugly it looks.

Don't get me wrong however, I do like a clean look but when it looks like pastel/crayon drawings, that's where I draw the line.... (no pun intended :P)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jeremy.shi:
Yea they rolled out 4.4.4 for Xperia Z1 and left out the Z2. No ETA or anything for the Z2 so far.

The problem I have is about screen sensitivity. The screen is hypersensitive. Hovering one of my fingers on the phone often gets registered as a touch.

Do you know what I did today? I tried to flash my firmware back to the Australian firmware my phone came with. (current version .55) Guess what? Most of my problems are gone! (The screen is still not perfect, still has a little bit of sensitivity problem, but it's much better than when it was on German .402) Since the versions are not the same, I can't say whether it's because I'm using an Australian firmware or .55 is simply better than .402.

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I actually quite like the stock android design...especially the new UI on android L, but you know...de gustibus non est disputandum.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kptnk:
There will be huge Ui changes for sure, and well it's a question of taste (I like this move personally). But there also will be huge under the hood improvements ! Battery saving, camera optimisations, and not speaking of.... ART !

I very welcome this L coming.... Now when will it arrive on our Z2, thats' another story...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonmorris:
As long as Sony keep the themes, we should be able to get rid of the somewhat boring, flat, UI that seems to be the current 'in thing'.

As with many things in life, it's cyclical and soon the flat, pastel coloured, look will look and feel dated and we'll go back to something brighter and with more depth.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funky0308:
Lets get back to reality...

Manufacturer of the One plus said they will release Android L 90 days after Google release final, official version...

So, as I already said - we'll see Z3 sooner then L ;)
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xajel:
It might be just me, but after I skipped Z2, and thinking of skipping Z3 also as it's not an upgrade spec. wise... will be waiting for Z4, that will sure be something to be happy with it, L for sure and that newer Qualcomm 810 SoC !! and I hope it will come with the new USB Type-C connector then it will be awesome
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KyleSforza:
Wait for Z5 maybe, what if the 64 bit arch is not stable enough since it'll be quiet new? :p :sarcasm:

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Dang, totally forgot to reply to you. :p

If that's the issue, you'd hate M8 to the bits. It has the most sensitive display among all devices. I actually operate it with hovers when not in a hurry instead of touches. :p
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xajel:
Naah, I skipped Z2 coz I had to choose between it and a discounted offer on KDL-60W850b TV ( $400 less than actual price ).. so I bought the TV instead...

and I'll not get the Z3 for several reasons including

1- Not that much of an upgrade over Z2 in terms of spec... only design change compared to what we will have in Z4..

2- Sony tends to favor 1H flag-ship over the 2H flaggy..

I really wanted the Z2, but it's delay forced me to wait and then I found that offer for the TV.. If there was no delay in Z2, I could take it directly but I'll miss the TV offer...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] funky0308:
Can't see why are you comparing Z2 and Z3, you don't have Z2, right?

If you are on Z1 - Z3 will be worth of buying....

Only new IPS screen was enough for me to buy Z2...screen is really good...

Sound is frickin awesome...

Same thing I was saying for Z2 and boy how wrong was I - it's not something 100% different, that's why Sony said it's Z2 instead if Y1 but it's awesome device and step forward from Z1...

But if you are waiting for 64 bit cpu, maybe S810 or 808 then OK...
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Envious_Data:
It seems sony is doing what apple is doing

I4>I4s>I5>I5s|I5c

Not realy huge upgrades

Z>ZU>Z1>Z2

But none the less i have hope that XZ will even get android L and most xperias after