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[Galaxy Note II General] wesamothman:
Hmm.

Touchwiz is totally different that CM and AOSP. Each has its own users and lovers as far as taste is concerned. Law of nature.

However we all hope that note 2 will get a lollipop update even if it is carrier specific. I myself can try my best to internationalise it and release it.

However let's be realistic here. Note 2 is an old device. As HW and ram capacity concerned it is logical for samsung to neglect this device. Business demands them to release new devices and sell more.

Personally I have other newer spen devices than note 2. But I still believe that note 2 is a good device and I use it the most. We hope for lollipop update. But don't put so much dreams on it.

That was my personal opinion.
[Galaxy Note II General] KrlzGmz:
The Galaxy S5 released in 2014 has the same ammount of ram as our 2012 device.
[Galaxy Note II General] Androidwizzard:
Ram is big enough but that's not so important -> from my point of view it is the Exynos 4 processor.

Afaik there is no device out with that cpu younger than 2 years old so no need to even develop to keep up a 2 year firmware support.
[Galaxy Note II General] razorg:
I'm sorry mate but I had to reply to you. This is my first post on this forum btw so hi everyone! Now, you say Note 2 is old. Ok agreed, it doesn't contain the cutting edge technology. However, we do not want to get all the goodies, mostly the ones associated with the embedded properties of the SoC or sensors on a device, with a software update. All we want is the bugfixes done by Google itself, and maybe some little touches and theme/colour changes to the Touchwiz done by Samsung. Isn't this what Apple has been doing? Ok, mostly the device at the end of the list suffers from the up-to-date iOS version but an update often increases the satisfaction of the customer and the period he/she uses that specific device, and the number of cases he/she recommends that brand to another person. Truthfully, I've been a very hardcore Samsung fan. Firstly, my phone (Note 2) and then my laptop, my printer, my TV, all of them are Samsung. And I recommended Samsung phones to every single person that I talked to, made my parents buy S3s, my brother S4, for the last couple of years. What I mean is, if Samsung keeps going on with "oooh I'll make good devices with up the roof prices, and don't support them after 18 months so people will have to go buy our newest-at-the-time devices" mentality, their doom will come sooner than it had come to Nokia. This problem's creator is actually Google itself, but nevertheless, I'm pretty annoyed with this and if they are not going to solve this issue, then I'm gonna get out of this Android ship at the next port I'm afraid. There are millions of loyal customers like myself, and we're treated like garbage. Exynos 4 in my Note 2 is more than powerful to operate the latest Android version and noone can prove otherwise! How can anyone explain to me that corporates launch entry-level devices with CPU power less/equivalent to Note 2 with less RAM and less storage, coming out of the box with a newer version of Android and say that my Note 2 is not sufficient? This is nothing but a dirty capitalist game, but there are ones who play "less dirty" (like Apple). I'd like to point out that I don't like any of the services/products of Apple except the way they support their devices with up to 3 years of updates (and 4 years in the case of iPhone 4S, which is getting iOS 9 too), so unless Android-verse (Nexus-Samsung-HTC-Sony doesn't matter) gives me this much good support, no matter how good/bad their devices are in terms of hardware, I'm not gonna get one and be there to stop every single friend of mine from getting an Android device and that's it. If this is harsh, sorry, but this is the truth!
[Galaxy Note II General] Androidwizzard:
I don't say Exynos 4 isn't appropriate to run Lollipop - on the contrary, it can run Android M for sure too.

Thinking deeper I would state as follows: If N2 doesn't get Lollipop no other device with 4412 cpu will get it.
[Galaxy Note II General] razorg:
I'm afraid you're right. And btw my frustration is not towards you so don't get me wrong :) I just thought I found the right spot to spill my guts and hope Samsung reads these somehow...
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
That's not a problem for us. At least Note 3 Lite needs to get lollipop then we can get port

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[Galaxy Note II General] singhpratik87:
It's been a long time since I posted anything on GT-N7100 thread. I really laughed when one of the posts talked about " I really hope Samsung reads this". I think Samsung development team and the people who are responsible for testing new android version on older phones have better things to do than follow what's written on XDA. Although I personally would enjoy touchwiz lollipop for our phone but as wesamothman and Androidwizzard have pointed out there are limitations as to why it may not happen.It might not be related hardware specific but business strategy point of view as well if it's worth investing their time in testing lollipop for note II and if they do go ahead with releasing it they need to at least make firmware updates for 5-6 months for the lollipop based roms for note II to fix minor bugs to cater to the small population of note II users.Some people might argue with me on the fact that "small population" of note II users is not the right term but in reality if there was a way to measure the # of current note II users who use this phone compared to # of users who use note 4/s5/s6 etc we'd be outnumbered.

So at the end of the day we can talk about lollipop for note II as much as we want to but it wouldn't mean anything unless Samsung wants it to.

PS: The debate over touchwiz vs aosp/cm few pages ago wasn't really needed by users.It was off topic and felt like they were shoving their opinions down another person's throat.

Anyone looking forward to note 5 (talk about being off topic and random.....hahahaha)
[Galaxy Note II General] joemar66:
WB singh....:good::good::highfive:
[Galaxy Note II General] resudo:
Note 5? Hell no. If the N5 won't have an sd card slot and removable battery, which is most likely, I am going to find the Note 4 much more appealing.
[Galaxy Note II General] ndasarathy:
i waited for note 5 for a long time. sd card is a big deal for me. if they are not including sd card means i'll buy more memory version.
[Galaxy Note II General] Tkkg1994:
Hey guys, you will probably have a look here:

Vodafone Updates

seems like Note 2 is really getting it :)
[Galaxy Note II General] tassosmer:
This is from samsung.youmobile.org and it is an old article. Check the date.

Στάλθηκε από το SM-N910C μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note II General] o2xda1:
Don't give up hope :good:
[Galaxy Note II General] Raj_07:
Sammobile stated that Mega 2 will receive lollipop 5.1.1 and is under Development.And Mega 2 has Exynos 4415.

So is it possible to port lollipop from Mega 2 to our Note 2 when it will be available?:confused:
[Galaxy Note II General] XKVNZR:
Check #UR Inbox/PM
[Galaxy Note II General] TheATHEiST:
It's empty. ...why?
[Galaxy Note II General] Dalamar686:
YOU are the troll. And sheep.

Look at computer hardware. Aside from manufacturer customized hardware (typically in the laptops...), standard hardware gets generally gets driver support for 2 full OS versions (~4 years), sometimes more. Linux supports pretty much every 'device' and Windows will for the most part also run on just about anything.

With android, we don't get anything. We get shat on. Constantly. We don't get hardware warranties even! With all the manufacturer android customizations, we get slow updates, not enough updates, and short hardware life cycles. It's anti-consumer BS esp since these phones cost as much as laptops esp off contract.

This needs to stop. Devices should not be customized or locked down. Support should last the actual life of the device (most should last ~3 years unless they're being trashed so bad the flash starts going bad, dropped, etc...).

Additionally, Google needs to accept that Cloud storage blows and we need external sd cards in every device and the ability to back up without root. It is the only sane way to back up, especially with all the absurd carrier data restrictions.

Lastly, it's laughable that you call CM "good". With nearly all devices the performance is worse than stock ROMs, and there is a myriad of bugs in varying versions in CM, like the fact all CM builds has essentially been unusable for me since 3/3, and Puzzle and Dragons bug in libc.so still not fixed, users had to self-help (after waiting many many months for someone to pinpoint where the problem was) by ripping the file from old versions...

If these devices were cheap, I wouldn't have the energy to argue, but at $350-700 per device... they OWE us.
[Galaxy Note II General] TheATHEiST:
TL;DR

If you cant upgrade your phones software without direct carrier/oem support you're on wrong site.
[Galaxy Note II General] Dalamar686:
Thanks for proving you're a troll.

Carriers should not have anything to do with anything, period. OEM support is better than CM support and should also be obligated to support their devices since CM can't be relied on.

I have used (and tried) a great deal of CM versions on my Note 2 and the bugs/battery life has been incredibly unimpressive. As much as I hate the stock roms, I'm currently stuck with one since CM takes their sweet time fixing the network bug and P&D bug. Hopefully Lollipop build will not have the network bug (and it's confirmed it lacks the P&D bug) since it's a majorly important update that should be pushed to every device still in service regardless of age.

Carry on enabling corporations though: America doesn't have enough corporate D in their business and government.
[Galaxy Note II General] TheATHEiST:
I'm not a "troll", do you even know/understand what that means? Obviously not.

I used CM on my Note 2 for a long time and the only bug/annoyance I came across was when using Google Camera, but there was a workaround for that. Overall I was much happier with all the modded roms and AOSP based roms then I have ever been with any carrier/oem rom.

PS. I couldn't care less about America or it's business/government.
[Galaxy Note II General] vyrgozunqk:
That's why i destroyed my damn Note 2... and bough a Lumia device... even the oldest 8.1 Lumia's are still supported and ALL of them would be upgraded to WP10...

Apple also updates even the old iPhone 4...

I probably won't ever buy a crappy, laggy, not supported android again...

That's it for me...

Only a total sheep can use this nonsense...
[Galaxy Note II General] codeknight11:
Samsung finnish site has listed Note 2 for lollipop update - http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_to_bring_lollipop_to_s4_note_2_and_others-news-10566.php

Although it seems highly unlikely but you never know.
[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
we didnt get any 4.4.4 update so maybe there is a lil chance like 10% who knows but i dont think they gonna put much effort for developing for years old device
[Galaxy Note II General] codeknight11:
I think its more likely a human error. But maybe, they might update the device afterall to improve their image in front of consumers especially after all the hate they received for not updating S3 to kitkat.
[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
i think samsung is just dumb cuz they didnt update S3 to kitkat so they they already ruined their image in the consumers eyes

( cuz it was the most selling device for them ever ) :/ , so if they gonna update update N2 they better to update S3 too they are mostly using the same hardware with minor differences
[Galaxy Note II General] vonuzu:
Here is a screenshot from the website:
[Galaxy Note II General] gabripranzo:
Ok guys, it really seems strange to me, but maybe we're really getting Lollipop http://www.sammobile.com/2014/12/23...lipop-update-for-galaxy-note-2-and-galaxy-s4/
[Galaxy Note II General] gregsoir:
wel, fingers crossed!
[Galaxy Note II General] killerfrank:
2G ram compared to 1G ram, it's really a big difference.

Lollipop running on 1G ram device, nexus 7 2012 was a kind of disaster. I can't imagine running it with touchwiz.
[Galaxy Note II General] nilaydas:
Getting Lollypop

Looks like we are getting the Lollypop update. Read somewhere that Samsung has released an updated in there Finland Website about the same. Dont have the link right now to share.

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Got the Links:

here is the link: http://www.samsung.com/fi/info/update.html#note

google translate: https://translate.google.com/transla...ote&edit-text=
[Galaxy Note II General] Dalamar686:
Windows or Microsoft anything isn't acceptable to me; the only reason it's even allowed in my PCs (unpaid only!) is the gaming monopoly that the government should be stepping in to fix.

Android devices suffer from so much anti-consumer badness in so many areas it's ridiculous, and half of the issues are present in all mobile devices, and much of it from the stupid carriers. The devices should have been designed so they're about as unbrickable and customizable as a PC but all these corporations intended to lock stuff down so you're forced into their network/software ecosystems and try to force hardware upgrades every 2 years from the get go.

This crap should be illegal.
[Galaxy Note II General] Alipk52:
Guys don't believe Samsung till we receive Android 5.0, I seriously doubt they'll update their old device, if i am not wrong, same was being said for S3 regarding KK by official sources before they pulled out, even though S3 was due for major upgrade, anyways, if they update our Note 2 by a miracle, Note 2 will become the first Sammy device to get major Android update after 2.5 years since release. Quite doubtful but still the hope they've given will really put us all at the edge of our seats!
[Galaxy Note II General] CKTurbo128:
Not quite. Samsung did update the Galaxy S3 to KitKat, at least here in the US. Verizon Wireless released the KitKat update for the Galaxy S3 back in June.
[Galaxy Note II General] killerfrank:
1.5G RAM version S3 was updated to kitkat.
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
Yes it would ;)

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[Galaxy Note II General] tassosmer:
Of course not my friend! :)
[Galaxy Note II General] killerfrank:
Actually the cellphone maker Meizu in China is providing lollipop-based android modification to their 4412 based device, with lower speed variant of 4412.

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That's the point. Business dominate. Same Tegra 3 based device, nexus7 2012 got 5.1, but HTC one X stopped on Jellybean .
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
It's HTC issue that One X didn't get 4.3 or 4.4 but if it would have Snapdragon under the hood (like One S with Snap S4 Play like American S3) they would port 4.3, 4.4 or even 5.0 (like devs do on One S, they port every Sense version to their device,it's awesome ;)) and here let's get there S3/N2 the same problem. We use closed unpopular CPU and we we would use chip like One S S4 do we would have 5.0 from S4, S5,N3. We could be having REAL S5 ROMs port like they do on others phones... That's why I would replace my S3 with Snapdragon based phone. It may not be fastest but it's still gr8 and it'll have better development ;)

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[Galaxy Note II General] Androidwizzard:
We are talking about TOUCHWIZ Lollipop, not any kind of CM/AOSP or flyme OS. We desperately need TW Lollipop in order to port S6 and N5 functionality to N2.

Meizu can't help with that.
[Galaxy Note II General] mahe.:
Meizu lollipop kernel wont help CM or AOSP atleast?
[Galaxy Note II General] ipsuvedi:
CM/AOSP lollipop is already available for N2...we need TW man!!! ;)
[Galaxy Note II General] mahe.:
kernel based on kk only even in CM/AOSP lollipop roms.
[Galaxy Note II General] note2nooby:
Google and their mess...

Even if samsung put 5.0 out i think they should first fix that! Link below.

http://www.extremetech.com/mobile/2...ght-text-hack-thanks-to-android-fragmentation
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
I don't think that anybody cares about security problems ;) if somebody does then install antivirus hahaha

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[Galaxy Note II General] joemar66:
https://www.change.org/p/samsung-we...earlier-the-lollipop-update?just_created=true
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
Already signed, but I don't think that Samsung cares about their customers and 3yrs old phablet... we will get it but in Sep or sometime in Q3 of 2015

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[Galaxy Note II General] ipsuvedi:
Hopes and Expectations Still Alive :)

www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Gal...Lollipopped-according-to-Samsung-U.K._id72204

I donno what can of benefits we can get from this...but this is one of the devices which, at some points, similar to Note 2.00
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
We can port it from Note 3 Lite, but I don't know how ;) better devs know ;)

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[Galaxy Note II General] ipsuvedi:
+1

Please!!!
[Galaxy Note II General] driqbd:
this is probably bad news: after showing "5.0.1" in the planned update section for 4 months, Samsung Denmark and Finland both changed it to "no information" a few days back. :'(

http://www.samsung.com/dk/info/update.html#note
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
So Sammobile first time was wrong? Lol... provably no Lollipop update for us... Let's wait for Note 3 Lite or Mega 2 lollipop

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[Galaxy Note II General] resudo:
I want to say good bye to everyone. And how ironic it is, I've been so anxious about the Note 2 lollipop update for so long, and now that the update is near, this happens. Yesterday my Note 2 screen died completely and I don't think its worth fixing it :rolleyes:. I will be moving to either Note 3 or Note 4 hopefully soon. This was such a great experience, really amazing users within the Note 2 community. I've learned a lot during my time on this forum, I hope I helped people as much as possible as well. Hopefully I will see some of you on either the Note 3 forum or the Note 4 forum. I will miss everyone here, [MENTION=5564860]Androidwizzard[/MENTION] thanks for helping me with my first steps here! See ya! :highfive: :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
It's a bad news mate. Hope you'll get a Note 4(even exynos), this phone is just great!

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[Galaxy Note II General] note2nooby:
:( Sad to hear that you broked your screen,just recently broke my glass only luckily,the note 2 is a great piece of hardware and im sure samsung are killing it intentionally,so the flagship devices can sell...note 5=no sd card,no extractable battery,what a disaster :thumbdown:
[Galaxy Note II General] driqbd:
i think it's time to move on...they did the same thing when it came to updating the original Galaxy Tab 7 to ice cream sandwich -_-
[Galaxy Note II General] Raj_07:
:( Any chance of porting from Galaxy Alpha Exynos 5?
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
Lol completely different device. It would take years to port it... we need lollipop on S3, N2, N3L, M2

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[Galaxy Note II General] Androidwizzard:
Exynos porting possibilities

Three devices with Exynos 4412 : N2, S3 and N8 and if one of them gets TW Lollipop it should be possible to port.

Mega 2 (G750F) with Exynos 4415 will get TW Lollipop pretty sure and it might be possible to port (about 10% probability)

Note 3 Neo (N750) Exynos 5260 will get TW Lollipop too but probability to port beyond 5 %.

The main points are: CPU (gpu), cores, resolution - so even one of the first 2-3 not matching - no good way for a reasonable attempt to port.

It is all about the kernel and sources for it - not the rest of the firmware like apps and features.
[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
Lmao you are just wasting your time , like if Samsung give a **** about that

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its totally different SoC from Exynos 5 so no hope sadly

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no we cant its totally different Soc

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i think our hope only if Mega 2 with 4415 got Lollipop we might be able to port it other than that if Samsung update our N2 to lollipop which mostly won't happen we gonna stuck with 4.4 forever
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
We can do everything ;) but for now we don't know how to port it ;) I think that somebody may try to port kitkat from N3L or M2 and debug it just to check for errors ;)

I believe that someday we will be able to to port firmware from snapdragon to crappynos(read exynos)

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[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
no its not possible lol , if you think WE can port lollipop from Exynos 5 to our N2 with Exynos 4 then we already have that from Note 3 with Exynos or S5 with Exynos....good luck bricking your phone :D
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
It's possible ;) but nobody knows how to do this ;) (lol S5 with exynos??? G900H non LTE?

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[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
Dude stop lol , theres no way Exynos 5 based on ARM Cortex-A15 + ARM Cortex-A7 Exynos 4 based on ARM Cortex-A9 and different gpu , display controller , modem etc... so no damn way thats possible
[Galaxy Note II General] ndasarathy:
I Think there will be no update for us.
[Galaxy Note II General] julian67:
Thread summarised:

"Are we getting Android 5.0?"

No.

Niet.

Nein.

Non.

Neniu.

Ei.

Nope.

Na.

Hayir.

Нет.

Get outta here, you paid us already.

Told you so.

kthxbye.
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
You forgotten about polish 'nie' ;)

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[Galaxy Note II General] kalpesh6331:
May be...its time to move on...
[Galaxy Note II General] joemar66:
Wasting our time? Time to move on? Yes guys is possible we waste our time BUT need to say and do something. You guys like Sammy follow Apple style? Not is Note 5 now...without Sd and battery removal. You know how many time if u change something for improve your note...and u have mistake..for go to recovery the only way is remove the battery? Ok they wanna follow Apple....But If they wanna follow in the right way....Let's them release LP for the best smartphone they create till now. They don't? ??? Peace....But that not mean we don't have to do anything. Exuse my poor English and regards.
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
At least Mega 2 is getting 5.1 ;)

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[Galaxy Note II General] ndasarathy:
Don't trust that site.
[Galaxy Note II General] the_naturat_com:
It's only a matter of time when we all understand that Samsung will not release this update to Note 2.
[Galaxy Note II General] Mustafa Jafri:
Even the Note 3 didn't get 5.1 Update :D
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
Hold on guys... if somebody said that we can port Note 3 lite lollipop. So why can't we port I9500 S4 3G Exynos Octa lollipop??

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[Galaxy Note II General] gemtin92:
We cant port from note 3 neo neither from s4 exynos.....

Tapatapatap Note 2
[Galaxy Note II General] Androidwizzard:
The answer is in your question already:

OCTA

That's one of the main reasons
[Galaxy Note II General] Thiefyo:
just change the proccesor driver.. meh not an answer
[Galaxy Note II General] Dark_Sleipnir:
As I know proessor driver is proprietary and don't have open source code to simply change it in any ROM.
[Galaxy Note II General] yahyoh:
wut o.O
[Galaxy Note II General] resudo:
I really believed Samsung was going to finally release the update... But they are greedy b@st@rds... Good luck to everyone here, I hope that they change their mind and release the update, but things aren't looking all that good...
[Galaxy Note II General] Minto107:
You've got ur Note 4? With Snapdragon 805? How is it working? Mine on Exynos still lags...

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[Galaxy Note II General] resudo:
Yup, just few days ago. Mine works flawlessly so far but I haven't yet installed all of my apps. I will see how it goes. BTW I'm running the lollipop update (official) and it works pretty good.