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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@crosswind: PM me a dump of your HKLM/Security/Policies/Policies key.

The Cingular customization changed the default security level of your handheld. My dll won't start automatically unless it's signed with this level of security set. If I can take a look at the settings in your Policies key & compare it to mine I may be able to find how to downgrade your security setting.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Freshster:
Just wanted to let you know that v0.2 works flawlessly as well.

Again, I am using it on my TYTN with Cingular ROM v1.34 without any extrom customizations installed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brucewilsonpa:
Hi Sleuth -- couldn't fine an attachment with the PTTFix.exe program, only PTTFix.dll in both attachments.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@brucewilsonpa: my bad.... bad instructions. PTTFix.exe s/b PTTFix.dll. I've fixed the instructions.

@everybody who can't start PTTFix automatically:

I've added a new attachment called PTTStart.zip to the first post in this thread. Copying PTTStart.exe from this attachment to your windows\startup directory should cause PTTFix to automatically start whenever you reset. :)

Here's the scoop on the service not starting automatically btw:

No service in WM5 will start automatically if it isn't signed. During prestart which is when services start, the eventual security of your device hasn't yet been set by the operator. So, windows assumes "full security". In this mode, nothing that's not signed will run. Later, this security gets relaxed to allow unsigned execution of third party applications. After this happens, the programs in your windows\startup folder run.

Sooo.... how are some of us working you might ask? The answer is the "UnsignedService" registry entry which is handled by.... SPB Pocket Plus!

Those of us who have this little gem installed also have a shortcut to "spbservices.exe" in windows\startup. Among other things such as initializing the close button and battery apps, this guy scans the services registry key and starts every service having the UnsignedService value set to a 1.

So, If you have SPB Pocket plus installed, you don't need PTTStart.exe. Just make sure you have the UnsignedService registry value set. Conversely, if you don't have SPB Pocket plus then the UnsignedService registry entry is meaningless. Just place my PTTStart.exe program in your windows\startup folder to automatically start the service.

Who'd have guessed it! :rolleyes:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] brucewilsonpa:
Thanks Sleuth -- got it working afterall so I kind of suspected that was the case -- really appreciate all your effort on this -- very helpful to us cingular rom users.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Well lookey here! I've distilled the entire process into a CAB based installation. :)

Cingular 8525 wannabes: you will see your device go on sale sometime between now and the end of next week. However, as I've stated earlier, it will ship w/o PTT capabilites. If you wish, you can reclaim your dead PTT button however, by simply installing the CAB on page one of this thread.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dan1967:
you may want to check this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=335588
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] my969:
how to activate with bluetooth headset?

Hi all,

I've installed the newest official version 3.62 of cingular rom for the hermes, did a soft reset before all the bloatware got installed after first bootup

installed cyberon voice dialer 1.2

installed sleuth's PTT fix and reset the device and now button 5 activates voice dial as its meant to.

But, now i'm trying to get my jabra 250v to activate voice dial but it doesnt, it brings up the phone screen instead and my bluetooth headset light starts blinking once every second (instead of once every three seconds as it does in standby) signifying it's connected to something but no system sounds come thro it or anything.

anyone guide me to any registry settings etc so that my bluetooth headset can also activate voice dial?

Thanks

Jafar

PS. tried it on vp3G's WM6 v3.62 AT&T ROM also and i get the same behaviour

ie. cyberon voice dialer works with button 5, but bluetooth headset only brings up the phone screen
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Toyolution:
This is a good hacked tool works like a charm
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] vp3G:
@my969: My Jabra 250v is working fine with Cyberon VSD and vp3G v3.62.3. The non-bloatware customizations in my ROM include PTTFix, therefore there is no need to install it again. I'd recommend using the Cyberon VSD cab from my add-ons RAR.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Brandon Lindsey:
Thanks I signed up for this sight just for this fix. PTT was a huge pain. Now to explore the rest of the tips and tricks for my 8525
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mrderby:
Can anyone give me a link for the PTT CAB. I want to install PTT on my device.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] GSLEON3:
Restoring PTT

I have remaped PTT button, however PTT now is not in the services of my device. How can I restore PTT so that I can then use my AEB+ to create a virtual key to call on the PT function? How do I restore the PTT service & start up?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
I don't think you can have PTT running and NOT have it take over the PTT button.

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] GSLEON3:
Remap PTT...

I originally had the PPT service suspended & then remapped using the SPB enhancement of standard button mapping. It allowed me to reassign the PTT. Subsequently I deleted the PPT service & while I still have the PTT.exe & all the files, it won't start because the service was killed & deleted instead of disabled as I had originally done. I want to see if I can restart the service but don't know what module is missing from startup. Is PTT a cab based installation? Is PT_RIL_Extra_Settings the PTT prog. cab? Anyone?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] otty:
Can you please add a button 6 for the AT&T Tilt. Button 6 controls the PTT button. Button 5 controls the camera. I would love to reassign button 6.

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rsolomon:
Welcome to xda-developers! This thread is in the Hermes forum, your Tilt is a Kaiser - there's a thread over there which covers this - I think if you read back a few pages in THIS thread, you'll even find a link....

Richard
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] raybuffer:
8525 with WM6 - CE OS 5.2.1622 (Build 18128.0.4.4)

I installed the Fix as instructed. I am able to change button 5 (and 5 held down) to anything, but after reboot, the PTT button still works as it always has - it does not perform the functions assigned under "buttons", but continues to respond as a PTT button.

Is there another .cab for 5.2.1622?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] wai1:
ATT Tilt's PTT - Help

Button 5 on my Tilt activates the 3MP camera.

So the PTT button would be Button #6, logically speaking.

After I installed the PTT fix, I saw three button 5's and thought is is not good. I did try assigning a voice app to the PTT button, but it still called the original ATT PTT app.

I rebooted the Tilt which caused the two new Button 5s to disappear.

Also I lost the original PTT functionality - the PTT button is 'dead'

Any clues/help greatly appreciated.

Wai

-------------- 11-30-2007 UPDATE ------

I ran the Add/Remove Programs function to remove the PTT hack.

I now have my original ATT PTT functionality.

We probably need a .cab to support "button 6" (for ATT Tilts with the camera).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] MsHap:
Do you think there is a way to make the PTT button lock and unlock the phone?

Lock does not seam like a problem but unlock requires 2 presses on different things.

When I talk on the phone my earrings make appointments and delete contacts and put people on hold. :)

So I would love a way to lock it quick and unlock it quick when I want to.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pitchpocket:
Great idea! But I also have trouble with the .cab on my tilt with camera. It makes 3 #5's instead of adding 6 and 7. A fix would be great if possible.

I programmed the OK button for voice speed dialing for now.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] varnk:
Having a problem

I installed the PTTFix, but it is not working. My Button 5 is the camera button. No other button assignment shows up for PTT (Button 6) in button settings.

The PTT button does not function after the install.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] korky888:
PTT fix

I install the fix. it works good, however, everytime I turn on the phone, it will give me two pop up error messages. It works fine, just kinda of annoying. Anyone has any suggestions?

Thanks in advance.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gfmajid:
Very useful...

Have a ATT 8525 and PTT was totaly useless and annoying. Now is useful. Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eric00:
I think this program only goes half way...

I see a lot of people complain about the PTT. Most want a 'button 6/button 6 hold' to assign to other progs. The program as it stands only disables the PTT button.....

....of course if you ask about it people are quick to scold you and tell you that the information is found elsewhere and that you shouldn't be so lazy and should look for it...but they'll never actually provide the information.

The only solution I've found that actually works is using a reg editor. An app would be a much more useful means, but as it is this prog only disables the PTT button. If you install it that's what you get, but there will not be a 'button 6/button 6 hold' buttone to remap.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jollyblue:
Thank you!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kin0kin:
It would be great if someone could post up a keybddr.dll (with hardware keyboard in-call fix) + ptt fix combo that doesn't give you the errors during a startup. I've tried SJ Sleuth ptt, it has some weird problems where the hotvoice will only work in button 1.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eric00:
Here Is The Best Solution Available

The slueth prog just disables the PTT button......don't bother with it.

1. You need the two files attached herewith, copied onto your Sd Storage Card

2. Start the Task manager and in the "processes drop down window, select RegEdit.

3. In the registry navigate to the hklm\services\ptt

4. Click and hold on to the yellow ptt folder, then a prompt appears, select "Delete" then exit. Do a Soft Reset.

5. Click on "Start" and File Explorer, Storage card and install the OEM_Assign_PTT_Button.CAB onto your device.

6. Do a Soft Reset.

7. Go to Star\Settings\Buttons and you should see the "Button 6" and "button 6 Press & Hold"

8. Select which ever button you want to assign and select the program you wish.

Good luck.

(go here to post #127 to get the files you need in these directions)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=334759&page=13

This is what you want to do...I just did it and now I have two more buttons to assign to things I want instead of that useless PTT crap.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sitizenx:
SJ Sleuth_PTTFix cab seems to work on WM6 and 8525

I used the SJ Sleuth_PTTFix cab on a WM6 AT&T 8525 and it seemed to work fine. I tried it after installing and uninstalling a number of other solutions that didn't work. One PTTFix gave me errors and then I searched for a solution and found this. Seems to work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ranros:
PTT Fixt with AT&T Tilt

What is the best way to modify this to remap button 6 which is the PTT button on the Tilt?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ho9708:
Hi, Sleuth255:

Will the new PTTFix work for new ATT Tilt, aka HTC 8900, with WM6?

Thanks,
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Nope. There's a different patch for that. Check the Kaiser area for more info.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Allyn:
ZIP fix file location?

Sleuth255, great work, but I can’t get mine to work! Sorry I don’t mean to sound like an idiot, but I have tried to read my way through the posts, and I just can’t figure out how to fix what I have started. I have a new AT&T tilt (HTC 8900) not really sure where or how to find what ROM, but I found your post by Googling “PTT voice command” or something like that. Your fix was perfect, exactly what this phone needs and it all works until I hit reset. I saw in later a post another fix for that problem (sorry I can’t remember the zip file name) but couldn’t find the second program anywhere. Could you please direct a newbie to the zip program and instructions for installing it? Thanks so much for your help.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] cm1970:
PTT fix

does this work for the TILT???

button 5 is already assigned to the camera

thank you

NEVERMIND, i just saw the more recent posts...

thanx, i'll work on that
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bharatiya:
Hi so I went and upgraded my Rogers Tytn Wm 5 to AT&T WM 6 ROM. Not sure the best thing but seemed easy enough to do and now I am having this PTT button problem.

My question:

is PPTFix.cab which is in the first post is better or the SJ Sleuth_PTTFix cab which you mentioned?

I am quite a noob in this whole business so please please help me.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rudy doyle:
I can't copy the pttfix.cap file. What I am doing wrong?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jimbo69ny:
OMG 51 pages!?!?

I loved this feature. It worked for a few months but all of a sudden lately I get this error when I hit the PTT button.

"The file "start" cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file"

I have uninstalled and re installed to no avail. I just reflashed my phone (still with Black Satin) and re installed the cab and nothing. Its still not working.

Also, when I first turn on my phone I get two messages. The first says "PTT FindWindowFailed" and the second says "PTT Unregister Class Failed"

I cant remember for sure but I think my 8525 displayed these same messages before but still worked. I cant recall though.

Please Help! Ive been having major issues with my phone and this is one of the problems Im trying to solve. (see thread in the Hermes section)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] r0mmel:
great program! thanks!! keep up the good work.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] scottlanemitchell:
PTT Fix

Sleuth225, this is fantastic.. thanks...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gd6627:
ATT HTC TILT phone

Does this fix work for the tilt also or is it just for previous models...please advice
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Voodoolistic:
RegEdit

I edited the reg and assigned the buttons... but after I soft reset the changes are gone...??? any ideas?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] deuber:
Thanks...

It's nice to get that extra button under control.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LlamaLord:
When i start up i get this

PTT FindWindowFailed

PTT Unregister Class Failed

Then when i press it i get

The File Start cannot be opened. bla bla bla.

Why is this?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] The--Captain:
Deleting PTTMgr...

The ROM update to map the PTT button to something useful worked great on my AT&T 8525 (w/ WM6 upgrade). Thanks so much. But this raises the question of how to delete the useless PTTMgr executeable from the windows directory on the phone (in fact, I'd like to know how to delete *anything* from the windows directory - the file explorer on the phone doesn't seem to allow it, and when tethering it to my XP machine it refuses to allow me to delete it using the Activesync file explorer). I saw one other thread that mentions rebuilding the ROM without including the files I want deleted (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=294364&page=4&highlight=achef), which I will probably resort to if I can't find an easier way, but... Is there an easier way? Sorry if the answer has already been provided in this thread - I might have missed it trying to browse through 62 pages of responses ;-)

Thanks,

-Jon
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] LlamaLord:
Hello Anyone know why i am getting the errors?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] HTCMDA:
/windows/start up/PTT.exe

delete it

soft reset

and smile :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] HTCMDA:
BTW installing this button fix, killed my smart dialing.

after installing smart dial 2.2 it still does not work.

uninstalling both does not fix the issue.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kleppingerg:
Installed OK but only partially functional

I have an AT&T Tilt, Windows Mobile 6. I installed PTTFix and it does successfully stop the annoying PTT button. But so far that' s all it does; I can't assign anything to the button successfully. And I can get to the button assignment menus only when I've freshly installed the program; when the phone is reset, the button entries disappear from the Buttons list. It's acting as though nothing can be activated or saved.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darindavis:
PTTfix v1.07 locks up my 8525 (WM6)

I used PTTfix without any trouble on my 8525 with the factory installed WM5. It was fantastic! I then upgraded to WM6 and installed the latest version of PTTfix from this site. However, after I did so, my 8525 slowed to crawl. Every application would hang for several minutes after each user action. So, I deleted PTTfix and yet the sluggishness problem remained. So, I had to reinstall WM6. My 8525 is back to normal.

Have you seen this problem before? Any fix?

Thanks,

Darin
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] drcompton:
Problem with Tilt

I too am having problems. I got a new device this week as my last one bricked after 4 months. Current ROM 1.57.502.2. I am using the ATT ROM with the bloatware removed on startup.

I ran the PTTFix and the buttons were there in the registry. I renamed them 6 and 6 press and hold as there already is a button 5 on the tilt (camera). After I soft reset the registry changes are gone.

Any ideas?:o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pyro9219:
Same issue here after installing the latest official rom a few days ago.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samcham:
Hey, Tilt People...

This fix doesn't work on the TYTN II/Kaiser/Tilt. Only on the TYTN/Hermes/8525, etc.

All is not lost, however. There are instructions over on the Kaiser forum to do what you want. Check out this thread. It worked fine on my wife's Tilt. Unfortunately, it's a much more manual process that involves editing the registry, so be sure you back up everything before attempting it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dalewking:
Can you add support for left & right softkeys?

It would be nice if I could map PTT to left and right softkeys. Currently this is not supported.

Combined with the scroll wheel and OK button nearby this would provide nicer one handed operation.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pyro9219:
Actually before I flashed the lasted ATT tilt rom I was using PTTfix without any issue. As for following the instructions on that link you provided, it's the same thing that PTTfix does. I run PTTfix and get both the "push" and the "push and hold" registry keys just like the instructions say, (I had to manually remove the PTT service but no big deal, just in the startup folder), I got into the button's manager and see the two new choices and can set applications. Then I soft reset and the registry keys are restored to like they were before I ran PTTfix and the keys are no longer listed in the buttons manager.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pyro9219:
OK, I figured out how to make it work right..

1. Run PTTfix

2. \Windows\Startup\ and remove the PTT service

3. HKLM\Services\ and delete the entire PTT entry. (This seems to be the buggar that resets the darn thing after a soft-reset)

4. Reset Phone

Your buttons should do whatever the heck you can get them to do now. (Sometimes using PTTfix will mislabel the buttons to button 5, or flip which is push and which is push and hold, but you can change that in the registry HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys 406 and 407
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] drcompton:
pyro you dman.

Worked like a charm.;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samcham:
Yep. That's what I had to do to my wife's Tilt to get rid of PTT and remap the buttons.

(Just like it says in the thread I linked to above! :p )
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pyro9219:
I went back and looked and saw that further down. What I saw when I clicked the link was the instructions for manually writing the keys into the registry.

Either way, I remember only having to use PTTfix when I first bought my phone on the stock rom. :confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bmisch:
Issues with Tilt's new ROM(1.62.502.0) and the PTTfix

:confused:

Not sure what it may take to make it work, but installed the cab file twice and followed the install instruction but after every reset, it appears that the fix was removed: when in the button settings menu, there is no longer button 5 designated for voice dial or the "press and hold".

Is the cab file compatible with this ROM? I really want to make use of that PTT button! Any help is appreciated. Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jay2TheRescue:
This is for the Hermes (Cingular 8525). There is a different file and procedure to remap the Kaiser's (Tilt) PTT button.

Look here for the procedure and proper files to remap the PTT button on a Kaiser:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1707732&postcount=127

Good luck!

By the way, the reason I'm posting here is because a friend of mine who has a Hermes liked the way my Tilt's PTT button was remapped, so I looked here for the solution. Worked almost flawlessly, I had to soft reset his phone twice before the PTT stuff was totally gone for some reason though...

-Jay
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Chosen58:
Just got my phone and I had already hit the button three times. Thanks!

Now if I can just get that Right LED to stop blinking...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jshoup:
Am im confused. What does button 5 have to do with the PTT button?

What does button 5 have to do with the PTT button. They are not the same thing. Button 5 is on bottom right and PTT is on top left of device!!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jay2TheRescue:
It depends on which device you are talking about. On the Hermes PTT is button 5, on the Kaiser it is button 6. That is why there are different procedures to remap it for different devices.

-Jay
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] stephenb211:
A&TT Tilt issues with new Rom

Hi,

I updated the ROM to 1.62.502.0 and I'm not haveing any luck getting "Button 6" working. I ran your CAB and it removed PTT from "Button 6" but I can not put MS Voice Command there instead. I tried editing the REG Keys but it wont save after I reboot. Any ideas how I can get MS Voice Command working, since I use it all the time.

Thanks

Steve
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Jay2TheRescue:
Again, the details on this thread are for the Hermes. If you are looking to remap a Tilt (Kaiser) look here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1707732&postcount=127

Those are the instructions I used, and I am using the same ROM as you are.

-Jay