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[Fire TV Themes and Apps] danknasty:
Well I didn't just go at this blind I did plan on rooting the device just got a little confused as this is my first time and the tutorials are a little

behind the software, had I known I could push one button before hand I would have done that. Anyway no harm done I'm rooted and cwm is installed. I originally posted to find out why i was having stability issues in xbmc with this launcher guess we got a little side tracked..
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] danknasty:
I think I may have found the cause of the "crashing" I believe it may be running genesis with autoplay on. I turned it off and have not had any crashes or glitches since.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] MadFlava:
Not sure why but I thought Id post this here. After working fine for months and nothing being done to it at all, I discovered a grey screen that I couldnt get past Saturday. Rebooting the unit would give the B&W and color Amazon logos but not the XBMC screen. Once the color logo came up, the grey screen was right behind it.

I ended up having to go it CWM and clear all user data and that got it to boot. From there, since I was a few versions behind on recovery, I unlocked the bootloader, flashed the latest recovery and the latest firmware then I had to reinstall everything.

Not sure what caused it but I suspect XBMC was corrupted somehow. Just wanted to make people aware of this in case someone else runs into a similar situation.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Now that Helix beta 2 is out (so the skinning engine *shouldn't* be changing anymore), I've done the initial migration of my Confluence++ skin to support Helix. As the changes in Helix are not backwards compatible with Gotham, it's only had minimal testing so far (I'm not running Helix on Android, yet, as that would require updating all devices linked to my library). I'm attaching it to this post, as I'd like to see if any of you are willing to test it out before I add it to my repo. Please let me know if you encounter any issues.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] akytro:
Ran into an issue where my FireTV is running out of storage. I guess having a 550+ movie archive is a bit overwhelming. Is there a way to store XBMC on a USB and have is still act as a launcher?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
I'd recommend reading HOW-TO:Reduce disk space usage. It's likely all the cached artwork taking the space.

If you're rooted, you could use an external drive to store your artwork. If you're unrooted or don't want to deal with an extra drive, you could move your artwork to a network share. Both options use Path Substitution.

You could also limit the size/resolution of cached artwork to save space.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Haven't heard any complaints, so I'm pushing this to my repo. The Gotham version is still there, so the new one is called "Confluence++ (Helix)".
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Would Helix be consider to be more FTV remote friendly then Gotham...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mjbxx:
Curious, how is the Fire TV remote not friendly in Gotham?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Had read that for a better experience to get a K400... Might of been for the setup of some of the XPosed & Apps.. Or stuff that needs Login inputs...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] akytro:
Thank you! Removing the Actor images brought my DB down from 4.39GB to 500MB. Had to delete my entire library and re-add it in order for it to take effect but it's good to go.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Remote friendliness in XBMC/Kodi really just comes down to the keymap you use, which is totally configurable. I even include some custom keymaps in my XBMC Tweaks for FTV addon (check my repo).

As for entering text, if the on-screen keyboard is not working with a remote, you likely don't have "Remote sends keyboard presses" enabled in your settings. I believe this setting is enabled by default in Helix, but it's easy to find and change in previous versions. If you just want to be able to enter text faster, using a remote with a built-in keyboard (like the K400) would help.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Khord:
Anyone try to install this on a FTV Stick? I know it won't auto launch without root and the xposed modules, but will it still function?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
XBMC/SPMC/Kodi should run fine on the FTV stick:

http://www.reddit.com/r/fireTV/comments/2msxpy/firetv_stick_faq/
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
I guess he wanted to find out if any of the mods/functions still run/work even on an unrooted FTV Stick...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] NxtGenCowboy:
I do love your addon repo and tweaks! thanks!

Switched over to SPMC on both the FireTV stick and box. :good:

One thing that I noticed was weird, I have the same version of SPMC installed on both devices but I cannot get your theme to install on my FireTV but it installed fine on the FireTV stick..
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Yes, everything that doesn't require root will work.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Not sure why. Maybe you're running out of space.

I'm running SPMC 13.3.3 on both my FTV and FTV Stick and they're both running my Confluence++ skin. If nothing else works, you could just copy the contents of your /sdcard/Android/data/com.sempermax.spmc from on device to the other to create 2 exact duplicate setups.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] NxtGenCowboy:
That was my next plan! Haha. Have you run into any other issues using the FTV Stick? I had some small sound issues with a 1080P movie over 5Ghz. Nothing crazy but it did glitch a few times. No buffer issues tho.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] MadFlava:
I believe Ive run the device out of memory as well due to XBMC. Twice in the past two weeks Ive turned on my TV to find a grey screen waiting for me. Rebooting the FTV brings me through the two Amazon Fire logos and before the XBMC logo comes up, the grey screen of death pops up. I havent found a way around in short of booting into recovery and doing a factory reset and rebuilding everything from scratch. Clearing the cache might work, I didnt think about trying that.

Because of this, Im moving to a standalone XBMC box. Elmo, tho, I wanted to say thanks for all your hard work. Your addon is the missing piece for the FTV. Ive set up several for friends and they love them. I think my media collection is just too much for the FTV.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] NxtGenCowboy:
I wonder how/if I ran out of space. I only have SPMC installed and using a shared database. Odd.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Some one in another thread mentioned they saved GB's of space by turning off Actor info/images retrieval.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] NxtGenCowboy:
I just got it to work. I had to force a refresh on the repo. Now it installed fine. Lol.. :cyclops:
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Now that I am waiting to get my pair of UnRootable AFTV Sticks... Which are the parts that would not require root ???

From the mod list or no on the mod list:

Aka do any of the Launcher's functionality above survive not being rooted or can be install on a FireTV Stick or unrooted FireTV ? Or is it a all or nothing deal? Even when installing things thru the Addon repo?

---------- Post added at 02:42 PM ---------- Previous post was at 02:08 PM ----------

You can also find other tips about space management here: HOW-TO:Reduce disk space usage. Even TVMC's App comes with a utility to clean XBMC's cache...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] MadFlava:
Ive done most of the stuff listed. My collection is considerably larger than any Ive seen mentioned. Im just happy my FTV worked with XBMC as long as it did. But the grey screen of death is just too much of a deal breaker to keep trying to run XBMC on a box with such limited memory. Moving everything to an external may have fixed it but I just decided to go to a Chrombox setup instead.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Y314K:
Great.. Wonder if it would work on a TVMC Gotham installation... Since it's Gotham 13.2 ...

Any chance that with the new Sleep Mode option in System on the latest FW the root only sleep mode option requirement might be fixed (Maybe there is a shortcut for the option) for non-Rooted devices...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] onsoku:
Have you tried this?

Disable Fire TVs built-in screensaver entirely by going to Settings->Display and Sounds->Screensaver->Never. Also go to Manage Applications section, go to Photo and clear the cache...I recovered 1.5GB by doing this.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
I don't know. However, if you're concerned about sleeping, you may want to get SPMC. The most recent version releases the app wakelock when the XBMC/SPMC screensaver kicks in, allowing the FTV's screensaver to take over and put the device to sleep.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] tselling:
Unfortunately recent version messes up picture Screensaver because ftv device sleeps before suspend timer on spmc is supposed to activate. I like to use the picture Screensaver add on in spmc after 3 min and set suspend to 60 mins on spmc so I can watch the pictures for awhile from my local server. I have firetv Screensaver set to never. My pictures start but device suspends in like 10 mins no matter what I set suspend in spmc set to. So it works horrible for me now.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jakepe:
hello - how can i make an fresh install from XBMC without any problems ? - Just delete it - an then make a new install ?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] dismissthesky:
That would work, or you could go into the KFTV launcher -> settings -> applications -> manage all applications -> XBMC -> clear data. That should take you back to a fresh XBMC install.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Harry454:
How do I set xbmc as the default launcher?

My AFTV is rooted with SU, busy box and xposed modules install but it never gave me to option on first boot whether I wanted it as a launcher so it wouldn't goto kftv launcher. Any suggestions?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] danknasty:
Is whatever version of xbmc you are using a launcher version?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Sc0rp10:
you need an xbmc version with launcher intents. you can use the one from OP in the first post or use the launcher version of SPMC.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] ks-man:
I'm currently using this version of XBMC on my Fire TV and it is working well but for future support I thought it would be best to move over to SPMC. I have a shortcut that takes me to the Fire TV home for when I want Amazon VOD or other Amazon apps. This is still possible if I use the launcher version of SPMC, right?

Assuming it is what is the best way for me to switch over? Is there a way to keep this version of XBMC and just remove the launcher capabilities or should I fully uninstall this version and then install the SPMC with launcher app? With the SPMC w/ launcher app will it automatically take me into SPMC at startup the way this version does? If there is a better place to ask these questions please let me know. Thanks.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
The skin, shortcuts, and addons work fine in SPMC. Quickest way to move things over is:

Install SPMC (make sure it's the *Launcher* version)

Run SPMC once, then exit

Delete the newly created "/sdcard/Android/com.sempermax.spmc" folder

Rename the "/sdcard/Android/org.xbmc.xbmc" folder to "com.sempermax.spmc"

Start SPMC and make sure it's working

Uninstall XBMC

Steps 3 and 4 can be done via ADB, SSH, ES Explorer...whatever you want.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] ks-man:
Thanks elmero,

I didn't have a chance to do this yesterday but will try later. Great suggestion so I don't have to re-setup XBMC and am essentially just using the same userdata folder that I currently do.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] patt2k:
anyway to do this for Kodi newest version? or how to keymap HOME to launch xbmc?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] canadave:
Would love to know this too. It works great for XBMC 13.2 Gotham stable, but now that I'm running Helix RC3 it'd be great to launch that instead.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Someone would have to rebuild the Kodi apk with Launcher abilities. I'm holding off until the final Kodi release, though, and that's likely only if SPMC takes a while to update to Helix.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] patt2k:
I did with a different launcher and xposed works superb.

I have a nice fire tv launcher :)
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] don_alberto:
waking up

Hi,

Iv'e been searching here for a solution but couldn't find one so I apologize if it's already been answered.

I have only the '"Android Power Options" screensaver' installed with Kodi RC3. The Fire Tv goes to sleep wonderfully but sometimes it's waking up with no reason.

I see it when I wake up in the middle of the night and find the living room's TV turned on (Because of CEC the TV turns on when AFTV is waking up).

Thanks.

p.s

AMAZING Work on AFTV elmero
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
I haven't noticed this, but I disable CEC on everything (it's such a clusterf*** when you have many devices). If you close XBMC and let the FTV sleep on its own, does it still wake up? This could help tell if it's something in XBMC or not. Do you have any scrapers or other timers set up in XBMC that would wake it up?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jobespierre:
Hi Elmerohueso, are you going to do a new version now that HELIX has come out?

Or do you recommend going for SPMC and the updates within that branch?

thanks in advance for your reply, been using your build since the start, very satisfied!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] don_alberto:
Thanks for responding.

I want to Amazon's launcher and forced close of kodi. I left it all night with CEC on and the device didn't waken up.

That means something in kodi is waking it up. But what is sleeping actually is? how could kodi waken up the device while sleeping?

Let's say kodi has this ability - what could have caused it?

I don't think I have any scrapers running. maybe something in the background? addon updates or similar?

Thanks
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
The screensaver simply emulates pushing the Power button on the FTV. A number of things could wake XBMC up, though. Library updates, addon updates, other timers, other systems reaching out over RPC or UPnP....Maybe check the XBMC log to see what it's doing when it wakes up.

I don't know when I'll have time. Life is getting really busy. I've been using SPMC myself lately, and don't know when/if I (or SPMC) will update to Helix since that requires updating 6 of my systems and the MySQL library. I'll see what I can do.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mcsephoenix:
Can you give us some quick notes on moving to SPMC from your build... My current setup boots directly into yours how do I go about changing that over to SPMC? Was it just an option in exposed? I just want to make sure I don't leave myself in some boot loop where it is unable to find launcher...
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Setting it as home launcher requires two things: 1) Xposed with rbox's module to allow for alternative launchers on the FTV, and 2) a build of XBMC that has Launcher intent (both mine and SPMC have this.

Easily moving to SPMC was covered in post #475.

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I actually had some down time (wife is out doing last minute Christmas shopping and kids are asleep) and made a simple Helix build. OP updated. I haven't actually installed it yet, but I don't foresee any issues with such minimal modifications.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] RVD26:
Thanks for the launcher for Kodi.

I have tried a couple of times to sideload with adbFire and it seems to get stuck towards the end when installing.

I already uninstalled previous versions of XBMC and Kodi before installing this launcher.

Not sure what's going wrong on my end.

EDIT: Tried it again this morning and it works now.

Thanks again.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jobespierre:
Hi, just a quick question: did you uninstall all previous XBMC versions before installing HELIX? Or can you just install it on top, as the wiki on android builds say to do?

And were you able to use a back up created with the XBMC back up add on?

tx in advance!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] RVD26:
I uninstalled all previous XBMC versions.

I did not create a backup before installing Helix.

I see there is an add-on to create a backup but I can never get it to work for me.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] heyredy141:
[MENTION=3244446]elmerohueso[/MENTION] I am trying to use keymaps from XBMC tweaks app and they do not seem to be working with helix though it worked before. Please note that I am using default helix and not the build that you have built. Specifically I am trying to get the back button to stop the video rather than it playing in the background but it does not seem to work though when I use XBMC tweaks keymap 1 says it has been set.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] Fgarcor:
I do use the tweaks from elmerohueso in helix rc2 and it stops the video when pressing back key on the amazon remote control. I can confirm that it is working.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] heyredy141:
Thanks. It worked for me after reboot.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] vioolinn:
[MENTION=3244446]elmerohueso[/MENTION] just wanted to say thanks for the quick update to kodi! also wanted to point out an issue with the confluence++ skin and it's on-screen keyboard showing empty keys (presumably due to clashing with the new kodi keyboard style). been really spoiled these past few months with favourites on my home screen, but i'll be able to do without until an update. thanks again!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Did you update to my Helix version of the Confluence++ skin? The Gotham version will not work in Helix.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] vioolinn:
Ah it updated itself on the next reboot, sweet!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] piruzinho:
Hey Elmoroso

I was using your old XBMC (13.1) and downloaded your new Kodi. Uninstalled XBMC, system boots fine into Kodi, all my settings are there, appearance shows Confluence++ (3.0.4) but I'm getting the "no keys" invisible keyboard as a user (@vioolinn) a few posts back has indicated. Any tips?

EDIT: When I click "Get More" (skins, under Appearance) it takes me to an overview screen, where it shows Confluence++ as "incompatible". When I click on that, I get a "dependencies not met" and Addon is incompatble. Maybe something's screwed up somewhere? Again, I did a "pure" install of your absolute latest Kodi download on a rooted machine.

Thanks!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Read the last few posts before yours. There's a Helix version of the Confluence++ skin, which you can get from my repo. The Gotham version of any skin will not work in Helix.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] canadave:
"install failed"?

I just downloaded the latest Helix launcher version from the first post in this thread, but when I go to install the .apk file using adbFire, it sits there for about a minute, then just says "Install Failed". Any ideas on what that might be?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jmerrilljr2:
Look in the adbFire logs for an answer. On a Mac the logs are in the application package.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] canadave:
Ahh, got it--thanks very much, I didn't know where a log might be kept. It appears, after inspecting the log, that I needed to uninstall my Kodi 15 alpha version before "downgrading" to the one installed by the APK. Did that, and now the APK is installing properly. Much appreciate your help!
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
As stated in the OP:

Android will only let you "update" apps that use the same signature/certificate. The one used in this build is different that the one from any of the official builds (because I don't have their certificate), so you need to uninstall any versions from other sources before installing mine.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] canadave:
Got it, thank you very much for the clarification.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] travazz:
[MENTION=3244446]elmerohueso[/MENTION] I've said it before, but thank you for this launcher, it's awesome. I recently updated my AFTV to a prerooted51.1.4.1_514013920 and now when I go to change the shortcuts, it crashes and goes back to the standard AFTV launcher. This only happens when I try to add the shortcut through Favorites. Is this because of the software update? Should I downgrade it to a different one so things work correctly?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
Are you using Gotham or Helix? I think I recall a bug like this in Gotham, which usually occurred if a Favorited app was uninstalled (the Netflix app in the newer firmware is different than in the old firmware, so that could trigger this). I'd recommend clearing out your Favorites, then re-Favoriting any desired apps, and trying to add them as shortcuts again. If that doesn't work, you may need to clear your skin settings (in guisettings.xml) and start over.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] canadave:
YouTube app no longer works?

Hi,

Installed the 14 Helix launcher posted in OP a few days ago and everything seemed fine. However, I just tried to start the YouTube app in the Amazon UI, and nothing at all happens--just sits there. Rebooted the FireTV, but that didn't fix it. Has anyone else run into any difficulties with the Amazon apps after installing this launcher?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] groo:
i've upgraded to Kodi with your launcher but have noticed that Confluence++ no longer works. Are you planning on updating for v14?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] toe-rag:
thumbnails vanished ... for TV Shows

I've just upgraded to Helix (signed-launcher-kodi-14.0-Helix-armeabi-v7a) - and installed your latest -- Confluence++ (skin.confluenceplusplus.helix-1.0.0) skin for same.

I noticed as soon as it was enabled/loaded -- my TV Show recent thumbnails went to black. The icon box & label are still there, but the graphic is missing. Is there any fix for this? the same feature for Movies is still there and working fine. ???

nevermind ... it seems to have fixed itself over time... the are returning little by little.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] dismissthesky:
He already did. Check his repo and read the thread. There's lots of discussion about how Gotham skins are incompatible with Helix.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] puppinoo:
AFTV Crash&Reboot using Android power Option on Kodi final

Hi,

I'm using Kodi final on my AFTV and your screensaver which is a lifesaver since I keep KODI open 24/7.

Yesterday I Installed confluence++ and now Android Power Option in both Confluence and Confluence++ makes AFTV crash and reboot. tried to go back to Default Confluence but still Reboot. I'm not sure it's related to Confluence++ Installation but I'm pretty sure it worked great before. Please advice (I had to switch to dim as screensaver).

Regards.

Puppinoo.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] RVD26:
How do I set up to have the menu button display Favorites?

I had this set up perfectly in 13.2 launcher, but when I upgraded to 14.0 launcher it's gone.

Thanks.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
You need to change the keymap using my XBMC Tweaks for FTV addon.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] mjbxx:
This works great with menu button on the Fire TV remote. Is there anyway through a keymap of having this work on a keyboard, giving it the ability to automatically access Favourites from the Kodi/SPMC homescreen? The "C" key works for all other menu options throughout Kodi/SPMC on the Fire TV. It would be nice to have but I am thinking it is not possible.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] RVD26:
I'm having a hard time finding it for some reason.

Is it under Program add-ons, Video add-ons, etc?

I'm using 14.0, BTW.

EDIT: I think I figured it out. It's because on my FireTV stick, I don't have the launcher installed.

Any way to get the add-on if the launcher is not installed?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] elmerohueso:
You need to get it from my repo. It's a program add-on.
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jarayn:
What are you guys doing regarding Amazon Prime Video? Do you not use it or do you just switch back to the regular launcher somehow each time you want to use it?
[Fire TV Themes and Apps] jpeg42:
Yup. Just make a link in XBMC to the amazon launcher. The home button takes you back to XBMC at any point. Works awesome.