yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] globalm:
I have to record my support for jcase's views on how S-off should be paid for - without participation in arguments over other matters.

I have lived through a numbe of S-Off projects and I have never seen a smoother and more polite outcome to the development process. People value what they pay for and accord respect to the supplier. End-users have a choice. Use the product at a reasonable fee or do not pay and do not use. Having been a software developer I understand, perhaps better than most, the cost of doing what the Subshine team has done. No-one can sustain that kind of effort and expense without a prospect of reasonable remuneration, even if the object is only to break even.

ROMs just don't count. Too may licensing issues!

If you want to see a burgeoning sense of entltlement to a free lunch just look in ANY ROM thread.

Users pay, non-users don't. That's how it should be.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Tigerstown:
No you won't... I would recommend just flash the firmware I have posted in Vzw dev forums. An then updat your ROM. But you can take the ota in you don't lose s-off
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] robbanks:
That's good to know. Thanks!

What's the advantage of only flashing the firmware?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Garrett_PL:
Hi, I'm strugling to get S-OFF with SunShine on HTC One M8 on 4.4.2 ver. It sais that it is an unusual network error, and I should try with Wi-Fi or other data connection - might that be the case (data connection problem) ? Or is it something different? Thanks in advance for Your help.

EDIT: I must add that I rooted the device with SuperSu, but unistalled it thinking that might be the reason for Sunshine giving an error. According to web page SS is able to S-Off with temporary root. I do have a feeling that I did mess around too much, but really hope it is possible that whole thing is because data connection. Waiting for Your kind help anyway.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] urbigdaddyy:
I can't install towelroot, i changed the modstrings, but the phone just heated up and slow

What's the problem? that's why i can't use sunshine.

what am i doing wrong?

"Update 1.6

SunShine has been updated and no longer needs your device to be rooted or unlocked before running. SunShine will gain root itself, and unlock/s-off every variant of the m8 currently."

So why sunshine says "root not found, could not find the su binary,please root your devie,then run SunShine."??

I used the 2.6.3 version

4.4.4 t-mobile
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] peopleschamp:
Hi, this is my problem. Hi have HTC one m8 001. I used sunshine on 4.4.3 and worked well. Then I installed its 4.4.4. Played a lot.then tried to return stock.all went well, apart the tampered flag. So i tried to s-on again. I could nor use Sunshine(su files not installed error), so i unlocked via htc dev, flashed recovery, root, but i could not still use Sunshine(network error). So i'm stuck with: tampered, unlocked and s-on.moreover I cannot flash the original recovery. Do I have to wait update for 4.4.4?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] LootLightning:
XDA not for your business advertisement.

XDA should be an open environment for developers to release programs for free. Having someone pay per device just doesn't seem right. The modding community is turning from a pirating clan to a let's make money scheme. I do not like developers that do not release a free version.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] beaups:
Noted. We don't like you either.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
XDA is very much both a commercial and open environment. Per device/PC is common among complex niche software, especially mobile unlocking software. It is an industry standard practice.

The modding community was never about piracy, piracy hurts Android greatly, and has never been allowed on XDA as long as I have been around. I have been developing here for years, free and paid software, in fact between beaups and myself, most root/unlock solutions from the past few years have been because of one of us. Did you not see what forum you were commenting in? Its a paid application forum.

I'm sorry that some how you believe months and months of hard work, to develop an original, highly complex application is a scheme to make money. The idea of charging for it, is to allow us to continue to develop these types of tools.

We did release free versions, do your freaking homework before you come around here. WeakSauce, and Firewater we free equivalents of SunShine, we wrote those as well.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] MordredKLB:
Just want to make sure that the problems I'm seeing are expected.

I have 4.4.4 (sigh) on a Verizon M8. Sunshine tells me I need root. I ran towelroot and it tells me that my phone isn't supported. Am I basically screwed because of the 4.4.4 update or is there something else I can do to get Sunshine to work?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Adrianiii:
I hope 4.4.4 will be supported soon, i moste send my european phone to service again, 2nd time now.

And why not pay for something good, no one wants to spend their time to work for free
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Uzephi:
Do you know how many dead, bricked phones came from making this exploit? Let's say it is 10 to be an easy, round number (for math simplicity in the example). Each phone brand new, out of contract would be between $400-650 that means they spent $4000-$6500 just to get this exploit to work, then count in the time spent away from family members, lost holidays, etc.

Most of the time a root bounty barely covers the cost of the phones bricked. And I know the donations do not reach that amount.

This site has never been about piracy. Read the forum rules, there is plenty of places it says "do not pirate."

If you want a free root exploit, by all means, please, donate the phones required before they find one that doesn't bork hardware.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] thatsonlyme:
I don't see anything wrong with paying for software that works. I paid for two licenses so far because of a bad phone received as warranty replacement but to me it's worth it. Paying per device might seem unfair but otherwise people would take advantage. It would be nice if there was a discount for a second license but that's developers decision. i'm just glad that there is a method to unlock my phone, it's impotant to me and well worth $25
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] seadersn:
and the best with it: only

when

it works :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Garrett_PL:
Can enyone please explain "very unusual network error" on HTC One M8, is that about network or this is just |* and something else is wrong.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] centorance:
S-off htc e8

Manage to S-Off the HTC One E8 using sunshine without any issues. I have some questions which I hope someone who have tried it can help answer. After S-Off, the app disappear from my phone. Is that normal? If in the event I need to send the phone back for RMA, how do I S-On the phone again and can I S-Off the same phone using a newly downloaded sunshine app from the webpage? Do I need to pay $25 again?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] seadersn:
yes, it disappears. back to s-on the usual way, restore completely to stock incl. recovery, cid and mid and the last step, which turns phone into s-on, is in fastboot mode

fastboot oem writesecureflag 3

same phone s-off is no problem, you need to redownload sunshine or store it in sdcard before and run it again. same phone = no new payment. something changed = appears as new phone (old one with new hw for example, new imei or serialnumber) or of course when you got a new phone, then s-off needs payment again.

but for my last sentence i would like to hear an answer from the authors, too :) i'm not sure if this is really the case.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] urbigdaddyy:
T.mobile m8 4.4.4 (everything stock)

Description says, sunshine will gain root itself, but the program said, can't find su binary( temproot why not working on the sunshine app?)..., and i can't use sunshine.

Towel root not working, weak sauce too, and i don't want to use the htcdev site because the warranty.

What should i do?

I want to use this program.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joeynshelby:
From what I'm reading Sunshine will not work on a Verizon Droid Max on 4.4.4 right now but support for that device is being worked on. Is that correct?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] peopleschamp:
Hi have htc one m8, cid 001, 3.28.401.6 .

Unclocked with htcdev and root with chainfire 2.16.

I got 1007 error, i think it means sunshine is not compatible , and i have to wait a new release
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] L7iharsha:
Guys i do have Droid Maxx 16gb rnning on 4.4 rooted will this unlock my bootloader? or not
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] seadersn:
try it? ah, and tell, pls... :)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Garrett_PL:
Manage to S-OFF with Sunshine on 4.4.2 with first struggling with " unusual network error". I went to try with WiFi, and it worked. Of course, after several PayPal errors. No support whatsoever from founders of Sunshine, either on XDA or IRC.

I uninstalled SuperSU (with unroot.zip) before trying second time with SS and it gained temporary root no problem.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
4.4.4 support is here for SOME phones, others is coming soon.

It means either you are running an old version of SunShine, and you need to update, or your network is having some issues.

If they replace the phone, or the CPU/Mainboard, then yes a new license will have to be purchased.

See above

I suspect you will have to wait until 3.0. You can try unlocking and rooting manually, then running sunshine to see if s-off will work, but I suspect that is a no.

If it is rooted, you can use it, otherwise no support at this time.

I think I refunded you this morning, if not please email me. Support for your phone coming in 3.0.

If on 4.4 yes it should work.

We do have to sleep you know? Most likely you didn't wait long enough in IRC for someone to respond, or didn't read the topic that tells you how to summon support. It is also Sunday here, we have families, Sunday is often a relaxed family/church day here.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] urbigdaddyy:
Thanks Jcase, i will wait for the 3.0 version.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] gads1:
way to purchase unlock codes for stocking stuffers (yeah... not kidding)

Hey RootNinjaGuys -- great work.

I've unlocked one Verizon M8 via Sunshine and everything was rainbows and unicorns.

Do you plan on an e-commerce site to purchase Sunshine unlock codes separately and automatically via self-checkout?

I would like to purchase a few codes for use with other phones and possible holiday stocking stuffers (yeah... better than coal and magazines).

thx -GA
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] peopleschamp:
Hi Jcase, Since I already used your app on 4.4.3 i do not think i have to be refunded.

We just checked why it did not work anymore( i sent you some files) and how to fix it
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] bryantjopplin:
He voted for Obama. He wants everything for free and minimum wage to go to $15 an hour.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Tigerstown:
I almost spilles my dinner reading this. Lmao. Great post..:):)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] shamps:
Hello mate, I asked regarding support for Indian m8s running 4.4.3 but didn't get a response.

Is there any progress on that front. I know ETAs are not supposed to be asked but I am not complaining, simply asking if there is some hope for us.

Thanks in advance!!

Cheers!!

Sent from the ONE (M8)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
Covered in op and main site, coming with 3.0

Irrelevant and doesnt belong here but I support $15 min wage, and it would so jack to help me.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] stlsports:
Working

Just wanted to post that I got sunshine working on my unlocked Tmo m8.running 4.4.4
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joeynshelby:
Thanks jcase for your response. I'm not rooted. It came with 4.4.4

So I'm stuck for now. Just curious if it will be included in the 3.0 version. I will happily spend the $25.00
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] bryantjopplin:
True but people need to take there complaints else where. No one pulled there chain. On the minimum wage though, everything will go up if that does. It all follows. Milk, gas, rent, cell phones, etc.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
This is not a place for politics, nor debate
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] urbigdaddyy:
When will you release the 3.0 version?

Thanks jcase
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
When it is ready
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Zanzibar:
I'm pretty sure they will release it when they release it, and not a moment sooner.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] raymondoliviero:
And when it will be ready?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] cyrusct82:
1st rule of xda: No ETA.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Zanzibar:
I'm pretty sure it will be ready when it is ready, and not a moment sooner.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] deadgiveaway:
Is it ready now ?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] beaups:
Its not quite ready to be ready.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] deadgiveaway:
Well then I'm ready for it to be ready so let's hope that's it's almost ready
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] gutbomb:
Care to share how you got it working? I'm S-Off already but my bootloader is currently locked and I'm hoping to not unlock it with HTC-dev.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] dottat:
Um.... May I kindly suggest that you need to simply flash twrp via fastboot. Boot into twrp and flash su.zip to root. Then boot up phone and use a simple adb command to unlock. Would take about 5 minutes max.

You Do NOT need sunshine working.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] gutbomb:
My bootloader is locked. I was under the impression that I can't flash a new recovery while it's locked.

fastboot flash recovery openrecovery-twrp-2.8.0.3-m8_whl.img

target reported max download size of 1826418688 bytes

sending 'recovery' (16322 KB)...

OKAY [ 1.495s]

writing 'recovery'...

FAILED (remote: not allowed)

finished. total time: 1.501s
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] dottat:
Not true. You are s off. Pm coming your way.

edit- sent you both the commands and file you need.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] mido.fayad:
You just need to flash recovery in RUU mode and it will work perfectly because h are s-off [emoji6]

So you need to make a firmware with only recovery in it and flash it by

fastboot oem rebootRUU

Then

fastboot flash zip name-of-your-firmware.zip

Then

fastboot reboot-bootloader

Then u can choose recovery and u will be able to flash su zip without even unlocking your boot loader

For me I'm using my one max with locked bootloader and can flash all Roms and kernels without unlocking it
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jarekderszniak:
exellent job!Paid-done!Many thanx and I recommend this staff!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] :
I am stuck waiting for the issue with the HTC m8 to be resolved, I hope it happens in V3 release.

I paid my $25, messed with my device some, then returned it to stock now Sunshine won't work on it.

It worked great the first time, I'm not complaining or asking for an OTA, just patiently waiting.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] samwathegreat:
So why did you s-on the device when you returned to stock? That wasn't necessary, and if you hadn't done it, you would still be s-off....
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] :
I constantly tinker, changing between stock sense and stock gpe. I figured this app worked so there was nothing to worry about. With lollipop on the way I want to try out gpe or the Dev edition, but I need s off to change my cid
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
In the future, stay s-off, it doesnt impede what you want to do with it. Only reason to go s-on is if you want to sell/return the phone. We are working hard on 3.0 now.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] pjd2011:
Hey jcase, do you think the 3.0 release will work with the new Droid Turbos? Their shipping 4.4.4 build date is October 7th. Slightly newer than the Moto X's but obviously still in the ballpark.

What info would you need from us early adopters to provide support?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ravish_919:
I'm on the same boat as well stuck in 4.4.3, not sure if I'm good to go with 4.4.4.

If the sunshine s-off work in progress with 4.4.3 then we would wait here, or if you guys are working on 4.4.4 s-off then there is no point for us sticking here rather than upgrading further,

Please let us know if we should go for 4.4.4 Indian OTA or not

Take ur time, no ETA asked..

Sent from my HTC One M8
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
Not sure, probably good to go
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] tlspatt:
That was my thinking too: get it and unlock the bootloader before Lollipop arrives (or before I take the OTA, anyway). I'm just not sure if the upcoming Sunshine 3.0 will be able to unlock all of Moto's 4.4.4 devices, or just some?

I'm down with donating towards a "test device fund" if it means unlocked Turbo magic! :D
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joeynshelby:
I was wondering the same thing. I have the droid Maxx on 4.4.4 so I'm stuck until sunshine 3.0 is released. If lollipop 5.0 is released before the 3.0 version of sunshine should I hold off on the update until I can unlock the bootloader or go ahead and update? Since I don't know exactly what versions of android will be covered in 3.0 release I am looking for a little guidance. I don't want to do something that will delay unlocking my bootloader even longer. That being said I think the developers of sunshine are brilliant and I eagerly await the 3.0 version. I check daily (several times). Got my $25.00 ready! One day I hope to be half as smart as these guys. BTW $25.00 is nothing for the service they provide. They could ask for ALOT more...just my opinion.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] ceyo14:
Probably better to stay on 4.4.4. If it will work on 5.0 then you can just upgrade and unlock. But doubt you can go from 5.0 to 4.4.4 if needed....
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joeynshelby:
Did my heart good to see this. Droid Maxx 4.4.4 no root. Waiting on 3.0

Edit: seen the post no support for Motorola planned in 3.0

after I posted this
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
3.0 is ONLY addressing HTC devices at this time, we have no plans, at this time, to include Motorola for technical reasons.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] joeynshelby:
Wow. Very, very disappointing.

---------- Post added at 11:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:06 AM ----------

Does anyone know what the chances for an independent root method are for the droid Maxx on 4.4.4 are so that I can use sunshine ? Or is that the "technical reason". Hopefully I understood that correctly?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] tlspatt:
Oh that's what I was trying to ask the other day. Thanks for the clarification, JCase.

Guess I'm stuck with my MAXX indefinitely, but at least it's unlocked (which I truly appreciate--money well spent!)...
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Tigerstown:
Glad I took back my moto 2nd gen...looks like I made the right call. Hope someone else can get moto phones unlocked cause I was very impressed but can't be locked down. Thanks for all your guys work on HTC we are all very greatful at my house for you work on m8:)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] sml132:
Update?

When is the next update expected to arrive?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Dougau:
Apparently your the only person on earth that doesn't know. If you read a few pages back you would know exactly when it's going to be done.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] wooddale:
I'm gonna take a chance and buy Turbo If I can just get root I would be happy. Sometimes you just gotta say WTF and give it a shot. Thanks guys for all you do.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] deadgiveaway:
This is when it will be ready
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] xpsychox:
I'm trying to download/install keep getting error (see pic) have tried 3-4 times even rebooted phone..no luck.

Slapped my Moto
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] deadgiveaway:
Try through chrome browser
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] xpsychox:
Useing dolphin browser...but I'll give it a shot

Slapped my Moto

---------- Post added at 11:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:53 PM ----------

OK...that's weird.. It made a difference...weird..lol

Slapped my Moto
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
$50 says you used dolphin, idk what they are doing but dophin is broken as #$%# and i cant figure out how to fix it. Any PHP guys around to look at my code?
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DMBFR:
For me it doesn't work, sunshine or firewater. my cid orange202. Sunshine and firewater said non compatible! S-OFF is impossible.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] Dougau:
It will Arvie when its ready, via the PFM system!!!!
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] DMBFR:
What is PFM system?

---------- Post added at 11:36 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:08 AM ----------

my emmc type: MAG2GC

CID: 1501004d41473247430308f646e82100

C:\Froyo>fastboot getvar all

INFOversion: 0.5

INFOversion-bootloader: 3.18.0.0000

INFOversion-baseband: 1.19.21331147A1.09G

INFOversion-cpld: None

INFOversion-microp: None

INFOversion-main: 2.26.73.2

INFOversion-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON

INFOserialno: HT43KWM08754

INFOimei: 35XXXXXXXX

INFOimei2: Not Support

INFOmeid: 00000000000000

INFOproduct: m8_ul

INFOplatform: hTCBmsm8974

INFOmodelid: 0P6B10000

INFOcidnum: ORANG202

INFObattery-status: good

INFObattery-voltage: 0mV

INFOpartition-layout: Generic

INFOsecurity: on

INFObuild-mode: SHIP

INFOboot-mode: FASTBOOT

INFOcommitno-bootloader: 93c21861

INFOhbootpreupdate: 11

INFOgencheckpt: 0
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] xpsychox:
Yes..it was dolphin someone suggested I use chrome..worked fine.

Also, before I asked I was reading that 3.0 is out soon and NO I'm not asking when it'll b done when it is..but my ? Is any reason I should wait for 3.0 vs now? Running moto x.

Slapped my Moto
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] deadgiveaway:
:D
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] hacipasalioglu:
My sofware version is 1.55.605.2 on sync manager

HTC one m8 verizon ..

is it possible to root? and able to use wifi tethering,(via custom roms)
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
Run sunshine, it will put it through a compatibility test, that will give you the answer
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] jcase:
No dont wait at all, 3.0 will not bring any enhancements for motorola, its going to be an HTC update, waiting will risk it not working with your phone in hte future.
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] xpsychox:
OK..good to know.means I know what I'm doing today! Lol..thanks!!

Slapped my Moto

Edit: Ahh...freedom..without the $400 price tag...lol
[Paid Software Announcement and Discussion] GeologyRocks:
I recently upgraded my android ROM and it killed the wifi hotspot method I was using. I them started using towel root and sunshine.

Now I'm getting htc and android pop ups to install 4.4.4 on my verizon htc one m8 that currently has 4.4.3.

Will this cause me any issues with wifi hotspot? I don't want any more cluster effs trying to get wifi tether back if I lose it.