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[Verizon HTC One (M8)] kh6rsb:
After sunshine s-off gaining root access

Unfortunately Firewater no longer works for the VZW M8. Most of the forums are still showing this method as working for this phone. I was able to use weaksauce and the sunshine method to gain s-off but lost root. On the official theroot.ninja site he says to "uninstall weaksauce and root properly." Can someone enlighten me how you are gaining root access after achieving s-off? I really hope I am not asking a dumb question but I have been on the forums for days researching this phone and have not seen any mention of the next step.

HUGE MAHALOS TO EVERYONE WHO CONTRIBUTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF SUNSHINE, FIREWATER, WEAKSAUCE AND EVERYONE ELSE WHO HELPS THE REST OF US ALONG THE WAY! THANK YOU!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HTID_Pyro:
Flash a custom recovery then flash a zip file of supersu or super user and you'll be rooted.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] kh6rsb:
Thank you! For some reason I was thinking I had to be rooted first. Thanks for the quick response to my dumb question.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HTID_Pyro:
Anytime I'm happy I could help ^_^
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] kh6rsb:
Well that was short lived. Just bricked my phone. I downloaded a cyanogenmod and I think I rebooted recovery by accident. Not expecting help but I would be grateful if you could offer some. I tried to press and hold power button and volume down. The screen is on but just black. No icon, no logo, no text just black. Crap I am screwed!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HTID_Pyro:
Hold down vol up and down and power then let go it's like a battery pull
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] kh6rsb:
You're awesome! I think I am going to stop now and take a break before I do some real damage. As we say in here Hawaii MAHALO NUI LOA!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HTID_Pyro:
Good luck I hope you get everything worked out :) there's lots of ways to unbrick from a soft brick. It's pretty hard to hard brick a phone but it is possible.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Yeah so I"am really curious to know if the firewater has been changed at all including the download to rule out this being done deliberately, as firewater worked for me 2 weeks ago on the same new verizon software and now all of a sudden firewater no longer works ? Makes you wonder doesnt it ?

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Crap you should have went with viperone 1.8 I would never use anything by cyanogenmod unless you like being a test subject for things that never work right and you have to do a bunch of fixes to get it to work, save yourself the torture and go with viperone or even tranquil m8 those are the two best period.

Can you get to your bootloader screen at all ? Hold down power button then when it vibrates hold down power and volume down button until it goes to white screen. It that does not work try holding down power and volume up button if nothing try power and volume down. Just keep trying. If still nothing let it sit a day maybe battery will drain then plug it in for couple hours then unplug and try try try it all again.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HTID_Pyro:
I did mine 3 days ago and all went well. Idk why people are saying it definitely doesn't work since it definitely does...at least 3 days ago it did.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
What software number is your m8 on ? That could be the reason why yours worked ? When I tried it 3 days ago it showed on firewater that it will not work for my phone and listed no matter how many times I try it firewater will not work on my phone. It listed you can try 10 times and it still wont work on your device. I guess I should have made a copy of my computer screen to post what it showed.

Can someone that tries firewater and gets this screen showing it will not work on your verizon m8 phone please save a screen shot and post it on here please.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Is this the same software you were on when firewater worked for you ? Also did you just download firewater 3 days ago or did you have firewater downloaded to your computer prior to that ?

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Also there is a newer prl for verizon, if you take your sim out then start your phone, then power off your phone and put your sim back in then power your phone up it will force a prl update which there is a newer prl as I have prl # 15323
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HTID_Pyro:
Yes it is and I downloaded it 3 days ago too. Thanks for the info I'll get on that :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
I second this. It definitely works if you have your phone pure stock no changes no added apk's just stock an can follow directions an have your PC set up rt....my brother just got one yesterday afternoon. He showed up at my house an 20 mins later firewater s-off twrp an badseed was installed. This is now the 5 one I have done since launch day.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Mine was 100% pure stock too and I had problems getting supersu to work as it kept saying it needed to update the binary and kept failing saying reboot and try again I tried it over and over and over. So I uninstalled supersu and tried again same deal, so I uninstalled it and weaksauce both as someone recommended then installed weaksauce rebooted and installed supersu without opening it then tried firewater again and same deal. And every time weaksauce showed I had root. If I could have installed twrp then I could have flashed the supersu update in recoverey I even tried doing that through stock recovery off the phone and off the sd card no go on either supersu still showed it needed updated. I probably tried firewater at least 6 times and it showed it would not work for my phone.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HTID_Pyro:
As far as I know the only way to update the binary is to have s-off and flash it so it's in system apps. That's what took me so long is trying to figure out why it wasn't working. But you get super user permission without updating it just open up an app that needs root to double check...the most important thing with Firewater is to make sure you copy everything as is and watch your phone for the toast messages so you don't miss anything that's very important to gaining s-off after I made sure all of that was correct it was a breeze.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] theonlyalfonzo:
Just got s-off with sunshine. No problem.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Danny201281:
I had the same issue just recently on my m7. I lost root after s-off and after rerooting couldn't update binary. I was us in 1.93 supersu .zip.

So after some googling I found a newer version of the .zip 2.01 and it worked. If you need I'll try find it again and edit this post with a link if I can't find it I'll copy mine to my drop box.

EDIT:- Here's the link :) http://download.chainfire.eu/451/SuperSU/
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
My issue was totally different mine was before I could s-off I couldnt update while running weaksauce because its only temp root access as the supersu kept saying it needed to update binary then failed saying reboot and try again did that over and over and over. Yeah of course you can update when you are s-off or even have full root access and not temp root using weaksauce. When your running weaksauce you cant install a custom recovery so you cant flash the supersu update as it needs to be flashed in recovery. So no way to do it with only weaksauce temp root so you can now understand how your situation was totally different as you were s-off I was not only having temp root and no custom recovery to flash the supersu update in.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NickFox:
This still worked for me! ...after 14 hours of effort...

I've always wanted to root my phone, but I never felt comfortable and didn't really see that great of a need for it. After the excitement of getting a new launcher wore off, I started seeing what I could do with tasker. That lasted a good six months, but yesterday I decided to root. I didn't really know much about rooting, but after a couple hours of research I felt pretty comfortable with it. Then I ran into every possible problem there was! SuperSU binaries wouldn't update, WeakSauce would say the phone was rooted when it really wasn't, WeakSauce would toast "Root Failed" after booting, USB debugging would randomly turn itself back off, firewater wouldn't run... It was endless! Eventually, what worked for me was using Superuser instead of SuperSU. I don't think that was the only problem, but that did seem to solve most of the little problems I was having. This thread was a huge help so I just want to say thanks to everyone and I'll be back to see if I can return the favor by helping anyone else with similar problems.

So, as of 29 July 2014, this is still possible with fresh downloads. Good luck everyone!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
It does work still I agree....just have to do things the right way you know...good look on sharing you used a different su..I never have had a issue but helped many achieve s-off an I never thought to try that.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
So as of Aug 08 still cannot get firewater to work. Continuously get the Welp message. Grrr Not sure I want to pay 25 for Sunshine method as I switch phones multiple times a year. Gonna have to do a little more research and see if there is another way.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Just a few questions. You have not changed system at all like mods or anything? You r using the correct directions on firewater website for weaksauce way as there r 3 different sets of directions is why I ask? When you grant su to shell you also grant it on your phone when it pops up? What version of supersu r u using? After you install weaksauce you don't even touch the supersu app correct? Have u verified you have root after weaksauce says so? Also I heard lately people decided to install weak sauce then uninstall supersu an download the superuser app instead an they had no issue. I have s-off like 8 of these 2 on launch day 3 couple weeks later an 3 of the red ones that haven't been out that long an I have helped quite a few that said it wouldn't work an the got it after I pm them back an forth.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
I have followed all sets of directions. Used SuperSU as well as Superuser. After rooting with warm sauce and entering first command ADB Reboot I lose root. Weak sauce never reactivates root without having super user binaries installed. Have waited like 10 mins. I will try again today with superuser without touching it and let you know. And yes granting su permission on phone after shell su command.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
Update OK so started fresh this morning. Went through all sets of instructions with Firewater with 3 different SU and still no luck. Off to the internet I go for a ton of researching. Theres gotta be another way
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] AmbitiousDonut:
Have you tried using an older version of SuperSU?

I had crazy issues as well with it failing to update binaries. When I used and older version, I think it was 1.97 or 1.94 from somewhere in this thread, it worked fine. With s-off and a custom recovery later I flashed the newer version and it's been fine since then.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
Yes also tried using older version of SyperSu
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Try superuser instead.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
I have tried that as well still no luck.

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Was reading that the Universal version of RumRunner has had success with M8 can anyone confirm this? Don't want to try it and end up with a bricked device and no way to recover
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
Update Having a hell of a week Lol. Now can't even get any root access with WeakSauce. Grrr
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] silver04v:
USB debugging turned on?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
Yes it was. Not entirely sure what happened but got root to stick with weak sauce again and SU installed
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] peltz.david:
need help

so i followed the steps of adb reboot, then the wait to push, then i waited for my phone to toast root activated, then adb shell then when ever i do su in the command prompt i get the su permission on my phone but nothing changes in the command prompt doesnt let me continue with the commands,

i have uninstalled both weak sauce and supersu then restarted my phone re downloaded and never opened su multiple times i keep getting the same thing, i also have tried with super user that does not work as well what am i doing wrong please help
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
This is the 1st I have heard of sunshine not working an he can't even boot to bootloader on his phone? I can't find anyone saying it didn't work in the sunshine thread is why I ask.

What hardware version do you have just circus?

I wish I could get my hands on one of these phones that can't be s-off an try myself...I s-offed 3 red ones like a month ago an a launch day one no issues..I just fire up my Linux beast machine an followed the weak sauce directions not the temp root one an all 3 went no issues at all. An people where having major issues at that time too. Crazy
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] camf3xu:
Got my phone like a month ago and Firewater worked
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
I am in exactly same boat. Have same numbers in hboot as well. Got my device in Gunmetal on the 6th. If in fact disabled wonder if there is a way to tear into firewater.bin and compare a working to non working DL. I am no coder but sure I could help with a little instruction.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
I have a launch day file of firewater an 1st version weak sauce if you want to look into it I can give you those to you
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
I can do that. Do you have Dropbox? I will PM email addy
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
I have a Dropbox but my Dropbox is full lol I'll use my onedrive . I'm at work till 5pm est so it will be a few hours still as they r on my PC rt now. But I'll hook u up. These r the excat 2 files plus su 1.94 I used to get s-off on all 6 of the m8 I have done.

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Check your email. I happen to have the firewater file on my SD card. But not weak sauce one I used...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
Got email
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vacoray:
I sure hope this works for you
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vacoray:
Did it work? did it work? did it work? uh? uh? uh? :o
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Nope..
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vacoray:
why is it necessary to have internet connection to use firewater?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
No clue. Maybe has something to do with unlocking bootloader. Just a total guess.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Ping41:
I was having the same issue. Firewater kept failing and I have Verizon and knew it could be done. Root checker showed me to have root access sometimes though. I just got sunshine cause I was tired of trying and it made me pay. Then it rebooted and said it would fail. Then got root access working and tried again (sunshine) and it worked. Completely S Off and I could update SuperSU from TWRP.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ryuaced:
SU and Firewater

I was having the same issues as everyone with superSU and weaksauce.

My solution was

(1) be sure and disable Settings>Security>"Verify Apps" for some reason this conflicted with Weaksauce install even though i said install it.

(2) Install Superuser and superSU for some reason SuperSU refused to install the binaries which basically made it useless during the firewater install. However when i got the su or FU warning I installed Superuser and it gave me a "grant access" press okay notification.

So superSU might have an issue right now with its new binaries.

Hopefully this helps someone else.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vacoray:
Well that worked, but still Whelped on firewater exploit
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Pretty sure firewater is dead.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vacoray:
Pretty sure you're right
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Ping41:
Sunshine was still working as of 8/15 if some are desperate to s-off
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Ping41:
I gotta get some posts where I can post in the ROM forums. Ugh
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Yup sunshine works...for those they r not s-off already or just got their phones...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Zjunk:
Did you ever figure this out? Stumbled on your thread with the same problem.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fritzo:
Yes. I wasn't waiting long enough. It takes 30-40 ACTUAL seconds for the temp root to engage.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] everday_rebel:
I don't think it's dead. I just managed to get it to work using Superuser [as a first time rooter, so nothing special] after a lot of random reboots and prayers.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] mumbles202:
Will it cause any issues if I opened SuperSU after installing weak sauce? I know now that I can't update the binaries, but will it cause any issue that I tried when I go to get s-off with firewater in the future. I'm good with just root for now, will do s-off down the line.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Well it worked on my 4 m8 too just not working on 95% of phones anymore. I tried my boi sprint m8 he just got last week an firewater was no go. He used sunshine.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
Still not working for me either. Tried DL with different browsers. Changing some settings and the whole nine yards. From what I understand it just depends on hardware configuration wheat her Firewater will work or not.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] bda714:
Fix?

Has anyone found a fix? I had followed the instructions for weak-sauce>firewater s off before with no problems. I had a cracked screen and sent my phone in for the HTC advantage free replacement and now when I try to s off this new phone I am having the same problem. Has anyone found a fix for this? Would using linux over windows make any difference? I am not having any problems with adb or drivers so wouldnt think it would... Just asking cuz I saw someone saying ...."hrrrm haa whenever I have a problem I fire up my monster of a beast rig running a mild flavor distro of ubuntu, and I grab that M8 by the neck and... bla bla" just wondering,... not a big deal though
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Ping41:
Bda I'd recommend using Sunshine to s-off.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] slim6596:
$25 for Sunshine is worth it to me.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Someone I know just got a m8 yesterday an he got it to work. Must have got lucky as Qualcomm said they have patched all m8 running certain chipset had a backdoor in the trust zone whatever that is lol. I would use sunshine before this ota rolls out 2morrow. Cause you never know
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BadUsername:
Speaking of ota's. Do you know any way to keep the phone from nagging for an update? On my Samsung, if you froze a file for sdm1.0.apk then the phone wouldn't update, is there an HTC equivalent?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
You can remove or freeze the updater.apk an that will remove it...I'm pretty sure that will take the software update rt out of your settings too it use to me 2 files to do both but I'm almost positive just the updater.apk does both now. It definitely stops the nag tho.

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I just checked an you need to remove updater.apk an then htcdm settings plugin will remove it from your settings.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Train1:
I just received an insurance replacement today and can confirm the update binaries failure after Weaksauce. Here's the phone info out of the box:

Android Version: 4.4.2

HTC Sense version: 6.0

Software number: 1.55.605.2

HTC SDK API Level: 6.17

Kernel Version: 3.4.0-gfa487c9; root@abm030 #1; SMP PREEMPT

Baseband version: 0.89.20.0321

Build number: 1.55.605.2 CL326752 release-keys

Software status: Official

PRI Version: 1.46_002

PRL Version: 15009

ERI Version: 5
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jj972:
So I have failed in attempting to soff as well but in a different part of the process as others. I reset phone, weaksauced, downloaded supersu didn't open, adb rebooted, pushed firewater, waited for root to activate, adb shelled, chmod, su, Grant access on prompt..........this is where I've had two different outcomes. First time, after prompt, su goes through, I enter last command to run firewater but nothing happens. Hangs I guess. Second outcome is after granting access on su prompt, su just hangs never goes through in cmd.

So I never get firewater to actually run. This is on a insurance replacement phone I received two days go, used all the same files and process from when I rooted my previous m8 couple of months ago. Any thoughts? Sidenote: I am anticipating that once I get firewater to run, I will run into same message as everyone else regarding not working etc. Just need to see for myself lol. Also, all this was done on a fresh reset every time
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] berndblb:
Check if your firewater version is the latest one. There was an update, I believe...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jj972:
That was it. Got the welp message. Smh, will look into sunshine. Thanks anyways
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
Sunshine now working with 4.4.3 according to JCase
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] berndblb:
Wow! That was fast! Earlier today he posted it may take months! LOL
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] CenFlo:
I can't even get ADB to recognize this phone... Good lord I've rooted / unlocked dozens of phones and have never had so much trouble trying to do something so simple!

Weaksauce does it's thing, but SuperSU won't update binaries and adb shows the device offline.

I feel like such a friggin noob....

Any ideas here?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
You have dev settings on your phone rt?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] CenFlo:
Yes and USB debugging is turned on, fast boot is turned off.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] berndblb:
Did you install HTC Sync on your PC (which also will install the drivers), then uninstall the program (the drivers will stick)?

With Weaksauce just ignore SuperSU. Don't touch it, don't open it. Just run firewater and if that doesn't work Sunshine to gain S-off and bootloader unlock, then flash TWRP and use it to flash SuperSU after uninstalling Weaksauce.
[Desire 816 General] heppojo:
Xposed

Sir,

Please advice what is the advantages for installing this?

is this will solve link2sd problem?
[Desire 816 General] vbrsekhar:
The only advantage of installing busybox and xposed installer is to open up endless opportunities of tweaking your mobile to look and behave the way you want (in most cases). Also some finest apps like titanium backup, and others etc use these busy box services too.

The link2sd app may or may not work and in my view it is totally unrelated. I havent tried that much, so cannot comment much on that I am afraid.
[Desire 816 General] emompong:
I have tried and it worked.

Lnk2Sd is somehow useful for users with partition, very useful for low internal memory devices. Though a high quality SD card is necessary. Thanks to this tutorial. CONFIRMED WORKING for Xposed Framework.
[Desire 816 General] s_skizzle:
Huge thanks for this. Got xposed working on my phone - running 4.4.2 with S-on / boot loader unlocked from HTC
[Desire 816 General] sonnu:
This is a off topic Que , but I require urgent help ..

I haven't rooted my device nor did I do any trick with it , but now my device is showing TAMPERED on hboot menu .. is this means my warranty is void .. how that can happen with even connecting my phone to pc.. can I suggest any way of removing it or unlocking my bootloader other than HTC Dev site, or any way to s off it . .. warranty issues