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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Mashie:
Does the 1.34 Rom give the additional butoon assignments or is it still limited to only 4 buttons like 1.31
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rkorzuch:
After a little research I found that the "ShortString_Keypad_XML.CAB" has a registry setting that changes the keyboard layout. The CAB file also does a few other things like set the Cingular background on the today screen, sets up the Cingular GPRS settings, enables USB serial mode for Activesync which I prefer over the default RNDIS connection. So if you want to go ahead and install the default extended rom on your TyTN all you have to do is edit the HKLM\Software\OEM\Qwerty registry string and change the value from "263177" to "132105".
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rkorzuch:
It is still 4 buttons
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] austin_boy:
8525 release is anytime after October 9.

No PTT it will come after launch
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@austin_boy: I take it that 1.34 is the go-to ROM for production then. Any insight as to why Cingular backed off AKU2.6? I know there's not much difference but inquiring minds want to know...

Thanks so much for all you've done here btw. :D

edit: after the DOH! moment:

btw: glad we could help Cingular out with additional testing. I don't think we shook out any new bugs tho.... How about slipping me the source code for PTTServiceNotYet.dll as a small thankyou?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] axiom:
Yes thanks, and you're welcome. Also while you at it on giving us the source code for the PTT, how about the development environment to sign and develop our own roms.. hehehe.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
@axiom: go for it!!!! one can only try eh? :D

edit:

Actually, there's enough good about this ROM that I don't feel any additional payment is necessary. I'm very happy with v1.31 and will disassemble PTTServiceNotYet.dll myself if necessary.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] axiom:
I figured it's the only natural thing to do, considering we are a community and as a community we have to work together for greater good. We already know Microsoft and the Providers can't do a great job.

Together we can make the TyTn a great device, but not without a few leaks from individuals within the community.

But then if we could get <cough><cough> mamaich on this, I'm sure we would be way ahead of the game. :wink:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gravejoker:
AWESOME .. YOU DA MAN ... this's the first good news I have heard in a while ..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Mashie:
Thanks the info, not to hijack, but do you have any info on the release of the Treo 750?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] slimsaturn:
So this issue with not be able to downgrade an orange rom. Is there anyway to dump the rom? As I am slated to receive my M3100 next week sometime and would be willing to dump my ROM is possible. And if this would help anything. Let me know
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] :
i moving back to previous rom! this v1.34 is so buggy!

i using iguidance 3.0 with tytn. when i click on iguidance 3.0, it takes like 10 seconds to load!

and other times it said "Cannot open iguidanceQVGA, A critical component is either missing or canot start because program memory is unavailable.." i just checked and i have 20MB FREE program memory
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
I mentioned this problem on the TyTN ROM. I had it on every ROM (TyTN 105,106, imate, all cingular, did not try dopod) and only after I loaded all my software to the TyTN. As best as I can estimate. There is a software conflict that causes this or it could be the iguidance code. I have moved over to TTN 6.0. It is noce enough but the learning curve is no pleasure.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] :
AFTER i downgraded cingular v1.34, radio 1.16 to cingular v1.31 radio 1.13. i still having problem with iguidance 3.0 taking long time to load.

HERE IS THE FIX! if you connected to gprs/hsdpa, discount it! meaning if it showing small g or small u, disconnect it. then iguidance will load w/o lag!

so it's not cingular v1.34 radio 1.16 that having problem. since i just downgraded to v1.31 radio 1.13. should i upgrade back to v1.34 with 1.16 radio?.. (i havnt noticed any different between the 2 version..)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
I really think it is software related not radio related. On a fresh install iguidance is fast to launch. After loading all my 3rd party apps it takes between 10s and 3 min to launch. I moved to TTN6 because I haerd a great many things about it that were good. For starters, the entire US map is only 1.2 GB. On iguidance, the US map is greater than 2 GB, so I was willing to make the move. Good luck with it. After you sort it out I may come back....:D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gatogringo:
Outlook contacts sync

Hi,

I upgraded from the original TYTN rom to the 1.34 Cingular without any problems.

It occured to me that I am unable to sync those contacts which have a picture... Is it only me or is that some sort of bug?

Thanks, and yes--this is a great board.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] doug0365:
I finaly have the big "U" since friday!!!! 3g in miami is finaly live!!! but its been great and not so great. On friday I was averaging over 780kbps with dslreports super fast if i must say. But its been very spotty witch makes my 3g feel not so great. For the most part it takes a bit to locate the page and once it changes its status to opening its like it takes a quick burst then a long pause and quick burst and so on... its not consistent witch in turn has made browsing slower. When it does work great I'm amazed at like in 2-3 seconds the full page is loaded! Although battery has taken a hit.. My battery doesnt last half a day but I noticed that my phone keeps trying to connect to umts most of the time. I'm using the 1.34 rom so hopefully cingular is still working out the kinks in miami
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] PHMT:
While slightly off topic, I wanted to let you know that your 3g performance is probably not due to 3g just going live. In the Dallas market (3g has been live for a year I think) performance is similar.."it takes a bit to locate the page and once it changes its status to opening its like it takes a quick burst then a long pause and quick burst and so on... its not consistent".

It is possible that it is due more to using the WAP@CINGULAR APN then anything else. There are reports that the PDAConnect Plan APN - ISP@CINGULAR works better.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] lpsi2000:
I just changed mine, I will see if it makes a difference.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jasonmoe:
I was wondering about that let us know
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] spartanrob:
Please follow Sleuth's words, my bricked TyTn is on a plane to Germany to hopefully be repaired.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
Thanks

I succesfully upgraded my O2 TyTN to the new Cingular 1.34 ROM (Thanks to the great instructions in this forum and wiki page support)

As I get up to speed more on the TyTn (3 weeks ownership at present)

I hope to contribute to the forum as well as learn from it.

L3G3ND
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Mad_M:
Hi,

I want to update my German O2 Trion to Cingular ROM also. Can you please post me a link to topic where is described everything I need to now (couldn't find it).

Does the Cingular ROM have some USA radio specific stuff ? Do you use it now in Europe ?

Thanks .
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
Download the exe upgrade file, connect your Trion to usb port, double click on the exe and click next, next, next... If you have problems the wiki and this thread has everything you need to know.

Nothing USA specific, works perfect in Europe and Asia too...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] baudy2:
Quite new with TyTN - just changed from my old good universal.

1.34 works pretty well for me - fast, does not eat too much of mem, etc..

Several bad things to be fixed:

1. ExtROM unlock is not completed. Cannot write there. (really bad - i used ExtROM extensively)

2. No Video telephony

3. Cannot change (so far ) to any other ROM (i'm Orange SPV 3100)

4. Problem with screen alignement (with previous DOPOD ROM it was all ok)

ExtROM and screen calibration are the worst things here. Are there any workarounds ?

Regards,
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] sergiopi:
Screen problem... the final word cames from HTC repair centre, and you can find HERE

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=1018105

I called HTC europe because sometimes I have this problem, related to hard pushing to the case at the bottom of the screen (portrait), in the pocket.

I solved with a small piece of plastic inserted and removed between the screen and the metal case, to re-enlarge the space.

But please, it seems clear: poor case, and may happen to "squeeze" the phone even not hardly to have screen problem. No new ROM can solve!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] fedaykin:
I tried it too and if some are planing to use it on an azerty device it seems that the different methods to change it don't work. I'm stuck in qwerty, sad
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bradwall:
Netboy:

See below from INA customer service. There is a patch coming out soon that may resolve this issue:

http://www.inavcorp.com/support/v3/patch/index.php

Hi Brad:

v3 patch is not available for download yet and thus there's no access via the link. Our web programmer is working on adding s/n login validation and hopefully will have it up and running end of this week.

Thank you.

Customer Service
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
Hopefully Pof answered your questions to your satisfaction.

In case you need the upgrade page from the wiki

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Hermes_Upgrades
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kree:
what is included with cingular rom?

Sorry if this has been posted somewhere else(I have tried a search). I have a macitosh right now so I dont know of any ways to upgrade my tytn as of now to the cingular rom. What I was wondering is what network specific applications come with the rom such as maybe cingular video or i dont know? Just mostly curiosity to what the rom looks like? Does it work on UMTS? Is it reliable? Thanks in advance to any replies.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] baudy2:
Screen alignement problems.. I'm pissed off !

Hi all,

Was anybody able to fix this Screen alignement problem ?

I'm not able to change to any other ROM because Orange (or any other SP) did not release any firmware yet.

With my previous DOPOD ROM i had no screen problems - so - this is ROM issue.

I'm really pissed off with this !

Please, help !
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] shark1:
I too have the same issue as you and I canot move from this rom either and the alignment problem started with this rom, but it also could be natural of having the device for month before it starts.

I am presently fighting HTC on this.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mmm_ok:
Does Cingular 1.34.502.1 have MSN Messenger?

Hi all

I have an Orange M3100 with the original firmware. I'm really annoyed that it doesn't have MSN Messenger and I was thinking about flashing a different firmware to get it...

Does Cingular 1.34.502.1 have MSN Messenger?

Cheers.

mmm_ok
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] dabbler:
Yes it does - It's inside Pocket MSN.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] nelsonlye:
hmmm... wondering is that possible just to use the v1.34 rom....but need to remain all the dopod function?......

can it work lk....flash to v1.34 rom...then....copy bk the Dopod Ext.Rom and run?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
Yes, it is possible, read the Upgrading FAQs #14.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] baudy2:
SA Problem solved (at least for me)

Guys !

It looks that i've found the core of the problem with SA !!!

Since 3 days i do not use the original leather case with magnetic lock. No even a single problem with SA since then !!!

Before that i had an SA problem , at least, 10-15 times a day !!

DO NOT USE STANDARD LEATHER CASE !
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
I NEVER used it, and I have SA.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
It's very possible that the snug fit of the case puts pressure on the front bezel. This is where the confirmed hardware issue lies. Thus I can understand people seeing a case - SA connection. The case isn't the culprit though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ionide:
Well the pressure of the case is the problem, not the magnet. But any pressure can set it of apparently.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] joedoe:
But baudy2 says that SA problem has dissappeared after he stopped using the stock case!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] doug0365:
This might be a stupid question... But after you upgrade to the cingular v1.34 radio 1.16 can you go back to the default HTC rom? Reason is I decided to sell my Tytn and want it back to its default rom.

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
Yep. Just flash the original TyTN ROM back on. Since your device is a TyTN, the CID will match and you'll be able to downgrade to the original ROM.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
I just flashed to this rom this weekend, and am noticing that if I have the screen off, sometimes it stays off, and only a soft reset fixes this. Has anyone else noticed this? It's really annoying :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
There a similar threads in this forum that talk about this. You may want to look around a bit.

The general idea is that certain products on your today screen contribute to the TyTn going in to involuntary sleep mode.

I have had similar problems and wound up bringing the phone back to a basic build and started re-adding my apps one at a time and checking the results.

What are you running on your Today Screen?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
SPB GPRS Monitor, SPB Weather, and Resco Today Screen Plugin. I'm also noticing that this rom is a bit slower than the TyTN rom I had previously.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
I experience this as well. I also run several today plug-ins, but none are common to your list. I am hoping this goes away with a future update, but the chances are slim because I have tried numerous ROMs and I have experienced it on them all.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
Some of the earlier threads addressing this problem were actually pertaining to the SPB products.

I personally use SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Diary with no issues.

I dropped SPB Weather in lieu of Pocket Weather from SBSH

With those three items on my Today Screen, I have no issues.

Also, I would check and see if you are running the most current versions.

The SPB issues people were referring to may be version specific.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
What's weird is, that I never had this issue with the TyTN rom at all; only since I upgraded to the Cingular ROM. I might just back down to the TyTN rom again, and possibly flash just the Radio rom. I'm annoyed with the speed of the rom too, everything just feels slower.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
If you are not excited about the Cingular ROM's speed, then backing down sounds like a viable option.

I started on the Dopod 1.23 ROM and still had the problem there. Speed wasn't much different for me.

If you do go back to TyTN ROM, let us know if it fixed your issue.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
Perception is amazing. I felt the Cingular ROM was more robust but the screen freezes led me to flash again so feeling experimental I went with TyTN ROM and Cingular radio. I still have the problems. I think my next flash will be to the Cingular 1.31 ROM with the NEW imate radio. We'll see how it goes.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
I will stay put on Cingular 1.34 for now. It seems like there is something wrong with almost every option available right now. Picking one ROM over another is like choosing one set of problems over another set.

I guess I am waiting for the "magic" ROM to come along and fix standing issues and be speedy with excellent battery life and stable.

LOL.

When that happens I'll give it another go.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
Aren't we all waiting for that ROM. LOL Until then I am going to continue to piecemeal these existing problematic ROMs until I find something livable. Of course after I get a workable solution another problematic ROM will appear. LOL LOL LOL
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
Well I uninstalled SPB Weather, and went to PocketWeather just to see if it's still the same; but I'm really thinking of downgrading to the original TyTN rom as I really didn't have any issues with it, I more wanted some of the Cingular branding things.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] aadadams:
Cingular branding and configuration was part of my initial motivation as well; however, I did experience similar situations with the original ROM. I am using it now with the Cingular 1.16 radio and I have to softreset at least once a day due to this. My search continues. If I could run without third party apps for a while then maybe I would be better off, because I could find the culprit by process of elimination. But, I can't live without my plug-ins. I want my cake such that I may feast on it, so to speak.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
I'm not sure what your time table is for flashing back to your TyTN ROM; but would you consider doing the 1 app install at a time thing on your current ROM to at least discover what's causing the problem? It takes time to do it this way but you will definitely find out what's causing your trouble.

PS: I too went to the Cingular ROM for branding and pre-configuration purposes.

The thing that bugged me most about the Dopod ROM was ZERO preconfig for the USA. It wasn't even on the list. Even though I had the phone operating well, I always felt I was missing something.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eagle 1:
Do you have the SPB PP+ Battery Taskbar displaying on your today screen at the top? I found that I had problems with that extra battery taskbar at the top, so i unchecked it in the spb options and it nolonger hangs pr freezes. Besides there is a better battery display within the SPB today display or the one on the bottom of the screen. btw I am running the most current versions of SPB Pocket plus, SPB Weather and SPB Diary
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
Well I think PocketWeather seems to be working just fine, and I haven't ad any issues since. I'll monitor the speed issues, but at least it isn't freezing anymore.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
For the last 8 days I have been running SPB PP with both battery indicators on the today screen , SPB Diary and SBSH weather with ZERO freezes.

the only things I'm missing from my original setup are Wisebar Advanced, Pocket RSS and the today plugin from SPB Backup.

I'll add Pocket RSS, then SPB Backup and save Wisebar for last. That's my guess for the problem as it exist on my TyTN.

PS: Since removing Wisebar Advanced, my battery life has improved dramatically. At least by 25 percent.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
I'm using Wisbar Advanced as well, and I think I definitely notice a drop in battery life, as well as a drop in memory. Just might have to remove it, and just use the basic WM themes.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
With Wisebar enabled, I was getting about 18hrs on a full battery charge.

Now that Wisebar is uninstalled I'm at least at 25-35 hours on a single charge.

This is running Cingular 1.34 with the 1.16 radio. A notorious battery hound.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eagle 1:
Wow, your battery is lasting a long time. My Battery will only get 12 hours if i set it to GSM only. When I set the band to UMTS/3g only, the battery only lasts about 6-8 hours. Using phone for about an hour, reading email and light browsing. I only get 6-8 hours of battery when it is set on auto band also. Most of the area I travel in is in 3g. So, the 3g seems to really drain the battery. I don't know if its due to trying to acess the network or what. Luckily, I have a charger in the car, at home and in the office.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] l3G3ND:
I guess I should have mentioned my usage types and patterns. I am rarely on 3G. My home\work are both Edge only areas. I haven't spent enough time in 3G areas to study the battery drain.

Because of SPB Diary, I usually never leave the today screen to check email, calendar etc.

I do have push email running with exchange server.

Also, my call volume is fairly light during most of the day. It gets heavier after dinner time.

I do bring up a few games of PacMan or Arkanoid every now and then. SlingBox Mobile to show off to friends a little but thats it.

I guess I would classify myself as a light to moderate user.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
Guess I was wrong :( Had my TyTN freeze again on the black screen EVEN after I uninstalled SPB Weather :( Guess I have to flash back to the TyTN rom :(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Sleuth255:
What's the serial number series on your TyTN darkjedi?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] darkjedi:
HT636xxx is what I have; it's not even a week old yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] phork:
Google maps mobile

After upgrading to the 1.34 Cingular rom, google maps refuses to work. The Midlet alwards complains about a lack of connectivity even though connectivity is verifiably fine. Has anyone else gotten this to work with this rom?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] baudy2:
Voicemail number problem

I've just noticed another strage problem wit 1.34 - in Phone Options when i entered the voicemail number and pushed ok, it did not save it. Next time i go there it is empty again.

Anybody has this problem ?

Please, help !
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] CrazyBrit:
I have read all the posts in this topic, and I have some questions. First off, I would like to thank the experts for the time they take to answer our questions. I have spent the last two days researching phones and reading BBs to decide what phone to buy next. I have settled on the TyTN/8525. I plan on using the phone on the US Cingular network. So I have the following questions:

I would like to buy the TyTN rather than the 8525 because of the front-facing camera. However, if I wait, will I have a problem upgrading the ROM to Cingular because the bootloader will be a later version, and will reject the different CID?

On the other hand, if the newer device also has a later ROM version, will it still be necessary to get the Cingular version?

I noticed from one of the posts that the Cingular ROM has the settings for GPRS. Is it possible to enter them without the Cingular ROM? Is there anything else I need to be concerned about? I want to be able to use all the 'phone's features on the Cingular network.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] phork:
As a followup to my Google maps issue, I've found that if I use fit4cat and set my GPRS connection to always on this problem goes away.