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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
The big difference between Greenify and Task Killers is that once an app is greenified, it gets hibernated and won't open (run) until called upon. It won't sync or do anything. Its basically disabled until you open it.

Task killers kill apps, and a lot of them just restart on their own not long after. So battery is wasted with the apps constantly being closed and reopened.

And yes, if you greenify commonly used apps, you are just simulating a task killer and yes.....wasting more battery than you save.

Remember too how android works.....an app opens FAR quicker for you if its already in memory. As opposed to launching an app that's not in memory.....it takes longer and more of a toll on battery.

Well behaved apps can run, sitting idle in memory with almost zero impact on battery life. Please don't try to "free up ram" by greenifying everything you can....you'll do more harm than good. Android isn't meant to run with lots of free ram....the ram is there to be used. ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mr.Jay:
Recently I have rooted my phone and I installed Paranoid Android (4.4.4) and Franco kernel (r53). But sometimes, it reboot by itself and when I go to see my battery stats after that I have this estrange jump in the battery life:

Here are the other screenshots if it's helpful:

Also I have to say that I'm using ART

Nexus 5 || Android 4.4.4 || Paranoid Android
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
The black line in the graph is the reboot and the drop is usage. Nothing strange.

Reboots are usually kernel related. Read the Franco thread a bit, starting at the last page and see if its an issue for others....and you can just try another kernel too. ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greyhd:
In your opinion, what apps would fall under those commonly used apps? I have greenify and want to make sure I don't go "hybernate" crazy. TIA
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Anything you use a lot. Multiple times a day. Like Tapatalk and my browser for me. I don't greenify those.

Exception would be apps you use a lot that take a lot of battery while idle. Facebook is a good example. Tho if its hibernated you won't get notifications. ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] greyhd:
Thank you.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harlekinfav:
hey guys, i have a problem.

since the android 4.4.4 update my stock android nexus 5 battery life is pretty bad. the battery lasts max 10-11 h with 1 - 1 1/2 screen time. sometimes its empty in just 4-5 h.

what can i do ? does someone have the same problem ?

sorry for english
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Please read the opening post, and 2nd post has tips.

Its preferred if you get Gsam from the play store, and gsam root companion as well. Open it, so its definitely running. Charge to 100 and let the phone run down to10 or 15 percent left, then take some screen shots to share with us.

Otherwise we can only blindly guess.

The ones to post are all from gsam...

1. Main screen

2. App screen

3. Times waking device (in app screen)

4. Time held awake (in app screen)

5. Kernel wakelocks (in app screen)

Those are the best ones for now. They give a great picture of what's going on.

I'm about to update post # 3 with samples of the screenshots to post for the most efficient help. ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Post number 3 updated with all the useful screens from Gsam. These will shed light on a lot of issues. Post them with your post for much quicker answers from people trying to help. ;)

At least the first 5. :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harlekinfav:
thx for the quick answer. i installed the app and now i am going to follow your steps. but i should have mentioned that i dont have root access sry.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Well, see post #3 and post what you can.

Without root to tweak, and to see basically the most important battery stats.....finding the issue may be difficult.

Why no root on the rooters dream phone? Just curious. :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Better no root access than toolkit :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harlekinfav:
well i never needed root, everything just worked fine, no problems. if the problem can be solved with root, than i will root it :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harlekinfav:
this time the battery drain wasn't so extreme than last time.

here are the screens:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
That's not too bad. Location on? Several apps that sync or get push notifications? Music playing ever?

Its nearly average anyway. Post 2 tells you different things to try to get it even better.

Some require root tho of course.

Would really like to see your time held awake and times waking device screens....but that requires root too. :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A1ps:
Guys, would appreciate help with this please.

From full charge I'm losing 3-4% battery within 2 hours.

I'm rooted with custom recovery and stock ROM, running 4.4.4.

I have WiFi on during sleep only when plugged in. But from the shots below it seems like something keeps triggering it on.

Location services all turned off.

Any help massively welcome.

Here are a few screen shots for info.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Before trying anything, put WiFi to always on. (Not always scanning....just turn off the wifi off when screen off option). I've never seen a wifi bar like that. Lol

That HAS to kill the battery all that on and off. HAS to. Yes, something is turning it on constantly....android system by the looks of it.

Just keep it on and see how battery goes. Mine is on 24/7 at home and my battery life is great.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] A1ps:
Thanks mate. Just turned WiFi on always.

How do I sort out Android System to not kill my battery?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lucasengel:
Battery drop

Have anyone seen something like this before (attached picture)? I'm a bit scared my phone is dying. =|
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Are you talking about the white space in the graph? That just means your phone was off in that time frame.

Edit: oh I see. It dropped like 50% over night while it was off. Yea I think the battery is shot. Might want to replace.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lucasengel:
Fact is it wasn't off. It simply dropped from around 50% to 0% almost instantaneously. And just yesterday that wasn't happening. =/
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I suggest flashing the latest factory image (even if you are on stock already) and testing if that still happens. If it does then yes, I reckon your battery is about to go bye bye and should get replaced. If it doesn't happen, then there was some software derp caused by an app or something else.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] comeback4you:
Recently I've been having the "Android OS" keep awake problem.

I leave my phone for a night and it goes from 100% to 54% in 7+ hours.

Usually when I wake up it should be still 98-99%.

View attachment 3057327

plz help me

my android version
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaptawesome:
On occasion my phone will just shut off at like 30-45% or lower when doing regular tasks (messaging, email etc). Then when I start it up its at 0-4% or won't start at all.

When I plug it in and start it back up it will be at like 40% or around where it was when it died.

I don't know what's causing this and need some help. Is it a third party app? Any known ones that might cause this? Or what could it be?

It only started when i upgraded to lollipop i am running cataclysm lollipop with elemental kernel. It also did this on stock lollipop.

Any help is appreciated.

edit: today it shut off around 70%
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Do you have any UV setting on?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaptawesome:
I am just using default settings on elemental kernel.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
If you haven't UVd and it also appears on stock, it might be a hardware issue. Have you tried going back to KitKat and test if the issue is still there?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chileno4Live:
I have some serious battery issues. First of all, my battery acts weirdly at times. When I'm charging my phone and turn it off, it suddenly jumps in percents as shown in the picture below.

Second, I can only manage a SoT of 1 hour, if I am lucky 2 hours. I have no idea what's causing this. I am running stock lollipop rooted. I have Facebook en messenger greenified. On KitKat, I had a SoT of 3 hours at average, sometimes hitting 3.5 hours SoT. Here are a couple of screenshots of my battery stats.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Wow... That is terrible. ?

If you want, backup apps, then try a factory reset and turn off every service and feature for a day or two... Not installing any apps yet.

Location off, Google now off, sync off, keep screen dim.... No apps installed at all. See how it is. Then report back here. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Oh... Install one app... Gsam. Preferably rooted and Gsam root companion installed too.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamajikaciya:
I had no wakelocks till today. They've returned. I cannot understand why. I did nothing different.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
You don't have to do anything different for wakelocks to happen.

Your post says nothing without screenshots
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaptawesome:
I just reverted back to paranoid which is what I was using before and it shut off as well. Why would this only start to happen after I did the lollipop ugrade, could it be because of the newer radio flash? Its confusing me, and its getting annoying to have to deal with all the time.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
This would be the best thread to ask for help on that,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2496506

?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamajikaciya:
Also screenshots says nothing without root. I don't want to root now.

But there must be something which induce the wakelocks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Exactly. And you need root access to be able to see what's causing the wakelocks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I can understand that it's getting annoying. As far as I know the updated radio shouldn't cause anything like this but perhaps there has been a derp in the updated bootloader? Try flashing the 4.4.4 radio and bootloader separately.

Aside from that it seriously sounds like a hardware issue :( It could just be that your motherboard or something else is going bye bye and it was a coinsidence that it happened at the same time as you updated.

Edit: oh and yes as [MENTION=4036181]Darth[/MENTION] said, I think the HELP thread might be a better place. Let the forum mods decide whether to move these posts to that thread or keep them here.

Edit 2:Just realised I miswrote. I still suggest trying the 4.4.4 bootloader but only if you are on 4.4.4. If you are on 5.0 then don't downgrade the bootloader.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
No need to move posts, but it's gone beyond battery issues. So at this point, it's like standing in radio shack asking about car troubles. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
And yeah, without root... Finding app wakelocks is like looking for a needle in a haystack. Lol

Best to wipe, flash fresh... And see how it is. If good... Install a handful of apps per day. When wakelocks return... Look at the group of apps you just installed. Cumbersome, but maybe the only way.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] deepakman1:
Just chill
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamajikaciya:
I did it many times. I don't have enough time to check which apps trigger wakelocks. So I should wait for stabilized 5.0
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jd1639:
Unfortunately it's not as easy as the os. It's mainly an apps issue.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kamajikaciya:
It's true. But I don't use too many 3rd party apps. I'm just using reddit sync, whatsapp and cm browser mostly. All of the sync option of this apps are closed. Also almost any OS' sync or tracking options are closed too.

On the other hand we do not forget that this device has only 2300 mAh battery.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jd1639:
Non sequitur. What does the battery size have to do with wake locks?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
It's a nexus... Made to be rooted. Just root, get gsam and gsam root companion and find the issues. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
If it's an app, an update won't fix anything.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FunDionysus:
Thanks for the first four posts (and for all the posts). I assume most of the content in the first four posts apply to Lollipop and the current Google apps/services.

I am in a fringe area and have been putting the phone in airplane mode often. But wanted to see how much battery was being used with my radio scanning for cell towers, etc. Is there yet a Lollipop app to acquire stats/graphs on cell connectivity and related battery use?

Settings > Battery lists 'Google Services' as responsible for over half of my battery usage. I just posted, in another thread before I found this one (link below), my observed battery issues with N5 with stock Lollipop (upgraded from 4.4.4) and what I have done to try and minimize battery usage and listing of various Google services/processes that seem to be always running.

Just installed GSAM & GSAM Root Companion. Charging up now and then will wait for the battery stats to generate. (I installed Greenify and Wakelock Detector apps already a month ago after installing Lollipop). Once I get the GSAM reports, will post.

How does everyone estimate their SOT ? Or is that info generated by GSAM?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=57461635&postcount=79
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] YoYoDawg:
Sooo i reverted from lollipop to kitkat because of battery life in lollipop ..... When i downgraded ... I still face the same problem which random shut downs .... Any advice ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adilhassan:
something wrong with wifi software ?

I have a nexus 5 with the latest updated lollipop. Jus see the screenshot attached. It shows that my WiFi is ON , but i dont have a connection and i dont use it at all. Infact its OFF all the time. Im totally confused how this can happen. I tried rebooting but to no use

Please advise me
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azizmulhim:
Adilhassan

I have the same issue. The best solution is to reboot the device after fully charging the phone.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Use Gsam. Stock battery screen has no useful info... The graph is ok, but gsam has that too. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Shutdown issues aren't really a battery issue. If it's frequent, a good start is a clean install of the system. Otherwise, the N5 help thread is a better place to ask about it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
The first 4 posts are generic... Apply to any Android version... And any phone really.

Yes, many seem to have 5.0 specific issues, and once they are figured out for sure... Post 2 will be updated.

Many don't have 5.0 issues though... And very likely that's because they already practice most the things in post 2. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Biyanesha:
How do you thinks? Is that my battery life's good? :)

Using Terminus Rom + Code Blue v718 kernel :)

*sorry for a bad english, I'm from Indonesian :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Wrong thread. You want this one...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2509132

This one is for working out issues.... The other is for boasting. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
And.... Average I'd say. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] azizmulhim:
For the 2nd post, I agree with you on the use of greenfy but turning off both the device Manager and location service (with battery saver) is a bit too much as these services not consuming much battery when running on kitkat ( in my case).
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Maybe not in your case... But they have been drains for others.

And.... You'd need to have location on and whatnot for them to function anyway.

Also, most phone thief's are probably smart enough to turn the phone off these days, making them useless anyway. Or they just need to turn off location.

I suppose simply losing your phone is a case for keeping them on. But I will never recommend those features anyway.

But post 2 is all recommendations.... Of course what people choose to turn off is their choice. ?

But remotely locate is definitely a drain, obviously combined with location always needing to be on. The second option maybe not a much...

Appreciate the feedback though. ??
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
And again, all post 2 is aimed at is getting "maximum" Battery life. The more things that are not followed... The less battery life you'll get. That's all.

Always, to each their own... I say . ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chileno4Live:
Do you guys also have this issue where when you reboot your device, it displays a different battery percentage? I just had 75% left and after a single reboot it dropped to 55%.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Celesica:
Hi, can someone help me track what has been causing this GPSLocationProvider wakelock? For some reason it started appearing, and I haven't had it before. As well as the LocationManagerService. I've been getting a lot of these wakelocks lately.

I have turned off my GPS, location services, and other stuff related to Location. I use location apps for checking in like Swarm and Foursquare (in Foursquare I turned off Location Services). The last time I used Swarm was 3 days ago (I just checked). I posted other screenshots too.

As for the sync, I'm not sure why there's a lot there when I only have the App data and Gmail turned on (under Google Account). I turned off Location Reporting & Location History sync, but it turns on by itself automatically. Not sure why.

Thanks in advance.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Your issue is not those mentioned wakelocks.... They aren't even a minutes Worth of awake time.

It's RILJ causing your issue. And what is "r" beside your signal bars? Roaming I'm guessing. There's your issue. Poor signal strength. And if you are indeed Roaming, you won't like your next cell bill. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Also, you don't have location off, it's on battery saver. So maps could be draining you too. Greenify maps. If it's a system app, use Titanium Backup to convert it to a user app.

You need to be rooted.

Again, if you are Roaming with location on.... You will likely see a massive cell bill soon.

If you must use location, device only is the most battery friendly setting.... Not battery saver. Google lied. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Hey Darth. With respect i was just was curious on your reasoning for this? Do you mean it's not a battery issue in the sense of severe battery as a result of a software issue (like a wakelock)?

Or in the sense of a hardware issue like the battery going bad? I think it could be the battery itself needs to be replaced. Just my two cents though. Maybe you can enlighten me with something I haven't considered?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Well... I've frequented many battery threads on many devices... And random shutdowns have never been a battery issue I've seen. Overheating, bad kernel settings, rom issues, app issues, hardware issues.... Yes bad batteries too....

But my reason for suggesting to use the help thread is that there are many gurus out there, and not all visit battery threads. ?

Chances of getting help greatly improve in a general help thread, rather than a battery thread. And again... I don't personally think it is a typical battery issue anyway.... So exploring a those other possible reasons have no place here... And they'll not be seen by many knowledgeable members in this thread.

??
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pulsar_swift:
That is only true before Google play services 6.5.87. If I set the device location to device only, GPS is initiated every time I unlock the device.

I don't want to disable smart lock , as I drive a lot. I want to be able to unlock the device without entering the pin when bluetooth device is connected.

I don't have an option to unlock without pin,as I have my corporate email account synced.

Reference Device: Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bblzd:
That's a simple visual glitch, the WiFi isn't actually on or draining any battery unless you have "WiFi always scanning" enabled then it really is always on. You can confirm yourself by looking for WiFi in your battery drain list, if it's there at all you will see it only has as much active time as it was truly enabled for. Annoying, but harmless. :)

That has always been around, my understanding is if the phone is in some sort of wakelock or memory leak when you reboot then the battery estimation can change drastically. It's a temporary issue and your battery is not damaged, it will be normal again after the next charge.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KodRoute:
Hello everyone. I have a question regarding N5's battery life. Do games and large apps affect battery on the long-term if say, I play for about an hour a day? I noticed something interesting about my N5. It seems to charge pretty fast. Usually it takes about 1hr and 40 mins. or 2hr to completely charge. Should I turn off the phone when charging? If so, how often should I turn it off?

Also, WiFi seems to drain my battery pretty bad. Is this normal?

Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skeleton.Liu:
Thanks I just used greenify and off GPS(if use open it ) synced alawys open ! Can used 6 hours .why..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Games themselves won't but if playing heats the phone/battery a lot and regularly then it will affect the lifespan of the battery long term. This applies to any lithium-ion battery so not just N5 related.

No point in doing this.

If you are running 5.0 or 5.0.1 then there is an issue with WIFI that causes battery drain for some N5 owners. Right now you can try:

- turning off "Scanning always available" in WIFI -> advanced settings

- turning "Keep WI-FI on during sleep" to never in the same settings

- turning "Wi-Fi frequency band" to 2.4 Ghz only again in the same settings

- turning location off or using "device only"

- turning WIFI completely off when you aren't using it

None of those are a guaranteed fix but they might help even if just a little
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shantam2:
Nexus 5 Battery Drain

Ok So I am facing this battery drain issue. When I had Kitkat, I used to have good battery life. It sometimes lasted over 8-9hrs with frequent gaming. Now that I've updated it to Android Lollipop 5.0. The battery instead of holding juice for longer time, its actually draining drastically.

Info about my device :

Nexus 5 32GB

Standard Settings

Wifi OFF

3G : ON

Mobile Signal Strength: Full strength most of the times

GNow : Was active, now deactivated after I noticed the drain.

Location : Usually off, but i frequently turn on as per my need ( High Accuracy )

Screen Brightness : Auto , but i usually keep it low. Like really low. [ After noticing the drain, i've made it manual and keeping it low.]

Usage :

My phone usage is a bit high.

I use Whatsapp a lot. I play Clash Of Clans for 5-10 minutes in every 2 hours. I do not use Facebook. I use twitter but very minimal use.

Problem :

My usage was same when I had Kitkat, but never faced battery issues. Now, after updating to Lollipop, battery lasts 3-4hrs max for the same usage.

Maximum battery is drained by my screen ( as shown by android lollipop ). But this screen never used this much battery previously, when I had kitkat.

I'm really tired if this now. I've googled a lot and browsed forums. This post is my last hope for a solution.

Or I might have to downgrade to Kitkat. Please Help:crying::crying::crying::crying:

EDIT : Added Appsucker screenshot. But thats not my usual day usage. I was busy. So I did not use whatsapp and Clash Of Clans.