yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Kj is a safe guy lol.

Do you think there are any side effects with it?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I don't think there's side effects, but getting 0.3 to 0.5 percent per hour drain over night, 24 hours plus total and 6ish SoT was always enough for me.

So never felt the need. :)

Maybe if I had a bunch of social apps I would have needed /used it, but I don't. And I got my wife using the browser for her Facebook on her phone...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=4036181]KJ[/MENTION] U didn't get the message? Me [MENTION=5666997]Lethargy[/MENTION] have been trying for several days to break Google services on my phone. Its been a pain in the ass. Lol Now that I'm on L I can't break it lol.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Lol

Oh... Been super busy haven't read everything.

I have a guaranteed way....

Hit your phone with a hammer... Twice to be sure. ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
This is one of the best threads I am, hilarious
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
This good enough?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
I'm trying to deny Google services wakelock, can you help me with that ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
No sorry I can't. I have a broken phone now see ^^ lol jk.

Grab the app Disable Services. Then go to settings/Apps/running and click on Google services. Screenshot the processes. We will tell you what is sage to disable.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Now I feel bad! ?

I'd give you mine, but I posted on kijiji here in Canada post night and it sold in 30 minutes. Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
I disabled the same as lethargy screenshots, then with app settings and xposed module I deny google play services from preventing the phone to go to deep sleep, and I don't know what to do with app ops.

Also after all that, I still have alarms from this thing on bbs
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=4133749]Facuu[/MENTION] Did You reboot or force stop play services? Which play service processes are still running?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Yes I did. Have a look here, running process is ok, but still getting some annoying alarms
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
You don't need to "buy" or "install" it. Its a hidden function in KK. Custom ROMs have it enabled by default and on stock you use the Xposed module to enable it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Good , but what do I have to turn off there then? As you read I followed your screenshots and deny permission to Google play services on app settings, so I only need to do something with app ops and I'm done. Anyway how can I get rid of those other wake locks of my picture?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Deny "keep awake"
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
I don't have that one

Edit: I don't know why it posted twice lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
That's weird then :eek:

Try with just a permission manager
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Did you scroll down to the bottom? Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Of course lol, there is only "sound" and what you can see in the picture, that's all.

Anyway, with the bbs alarms screenshot I did, what should I disable to get rid of that?

Edit: thanks a lot guys, you are really helping me here
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
Finally, only 1% drain after 9hrs of deep sleep :angel: Now, i can sleep peacefully lol :p I used to disable even gcm related services and that might be the reason in the past that i observed 3-4% drain. Now, i just disabled sync related, eventlog, checkin, systemupdate services,games and wearable services. Although play services is shown on alarm manager, it didn't have any affect on my battery. Case closed :cyclops:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Lol I just realized Greenify donation package won't work on L to disable gcm push because it needs Xposed as well. Damn :/
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Not bad. Now make it 1% over 24 hours :p

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Yeah, just don't use L :angel:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
There was one point a couple weeks ago I was not losing any battery at all over a 9 hr period. Lol. Then play services decided to troll -__-
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
How do you know if play services is not affecting you? If you see it on alarms, doesn't it wake the phone up ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
:gasp:, :silence: crickets: "what???"
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Lol, that use of nonexistent emoticons
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
1% on 24hrs :eek: I'm no chuck norris lol :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
But your phone could be Chuck Norris [emoji12]

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Not necessary. Only way you could tell is if it caused a wakelock or if you cleared out the stats by plugging and unplugging your charger or rebooting with no charger in and let you phone sit idle for an hour. Don't turn the screen on once. At the end of the hour if you see more then any alarms and you never turned your screen on once then it woke your phone up out of deep sleep. Give or take 1-2 alarms to let the boot processes finish.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
A chuck norris's phone never has a battery problem, the phone automagically charges whenever he needs to :p

Ok, back to topic, with gcm services not disabled, i get gcm_connect, idle service wakeups in play services. Can those be controlled by any means other than disabling gcm based services?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=4478993]swat4samp[/MENTION] Not that I know of.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
Then lets call our batteryguru [MENTION=5666997]Lethargy[/MENTION] ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
I don't have gsam/bbs installed but if the device is sleeping nicely when the screen is off you shouldn't worry about it. Native android battery graph is the easiest way to tell. Just because a service is running, doesn't mean it's always bad. :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
I had those and also checkin , event log receiver and snet service wakelocks

I disabled those and now I don't have them but I have chekin hand off and event log hand off so, how to fix that? It's driving me nuts
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
You have those wakelocks because you disabled the services but not the receivers.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Also some services like analytics keeps enabling it self and I don't understand why
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
There's no reason they would be able to re-enable themselves unless the app updated and changes the name/functionality of a service. Which is extremely rare lol. And Play Services hasn't been updated in a while anyways.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=4133749]Facuu[/MENTION]. This is up to you man. But if you are comfortable with this download the app Zikk. It's a remote app for Android similar to TeamViewer for PC. I can watch you to make sure you at doing things right and I can look at the processes for you. Pm me your username and access code. DO NOT post it here. But only if you are comfortable. You can block me afterwards if you want lol.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Lol sure, I don't have anything relevant on my phone anyways

Anyway I think I got it now, I uninstalled the update from google play services I had, and disabled some services again (they were different) and so far so good.

The problem is that I should need that update for using some apps maybe (not sure) so it would be cool to have the latest update working good.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=4036181]KJ[/MENTION] or somebody mention me please AND send me A Pm. Trying to fix Tapatalk notifications
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
[MENTION=4828464]Sandman-007[/MENTION]
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Done
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
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@Facuu or [MENTION=5666997]Lethargy[/MENTION] one more time please then I'll stop spamming the board lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
[MENTION=4828464]Sandman-007[/MENTION] beat that c'mon
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoledtc:
???

Need help from experts. Is it a dead battery or something alse...???

BBS log from yesterday, and pics... Minimum phone usage , 5 min od Messanger , and 5 min of call.....

BBS log from today , and pics.. Moderate phone usage, more then yesterday...

Neat rom on galaxy s2, all unnececary is hibernated with Greenify donation and Xposed... Only 3G , and GPS loc on always...

I cant get more than 90min of screen never befor getting 20 % battery...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
OK for yesterday's log I see that gtalk was using up your battery. Do you use it? Of not then freeze it. If you do but only for photo syncing then disable the sync and see if the wakelock goes away. If it does then you're solution is to sync your photos manually once a day.

If you do not use it for syncing photos but for actual G+ browsing then Greenify the app.

Now the kernel wakelocks u see on yesterday's log appear because your carrier does not suppory fast dormancy. Disable it and those wakelocks should go away

Also in yesterday's log FB was killing you. Unfortunately there's not a whole lot you can do for Facebook. Try greenifying it. Or freeze it.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoledtc:
Yes. I use only G+ for photo syncing when on WiFi and charging..Didnt understand the fast dormancy part... What should i do ??
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
OK just to explain fast dormancy real quick. Fast dormancy is how quickly the device drops down from H+ to 3G. When data is being transferred you will be on H+, and when stops being transferred you drop back down to 3G. Fast dormancy is how quickly this occurs. This is supposed to save you battery but if not supported by your carrier it causes problems.

To disable fast dormancy try this app. It should with the Nex5 despite the title

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gokhanmoral.fastdormancytoggle.i9300

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Anybody notice a bug in the new Tapatalk update where of you try to refresh a thread it opens a blank PM? LOL

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[MENTION=5666997]Lethargy[/MENTION] [MENTION=2872010]rootSU[/MENTION] [MENTION=4036181]KJ[/MENTION] Lol guess what guys. Just got Tapatalk notifications. Lol my phone is bipolar.

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OK my first battery cycle on Android L.

Just FYI I don't think that's enough screenshots lol

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[MENTION=4133749]Facuu[/MENTION] check your msgs bud
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoledtc:
I did notice the change from H+ to 3G amd befor, after data stops streaming... I will try the program, and we will se the log from tomorowe.. ths
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoledtc:
I forget to tell that i didnt greenify FB and Messanger. It uses a lot of CPU when running it again when i need so i think its just not smart to greenify that apps. 5 % / h is a lot of drain in standby i think. i will try with some new battery in some day...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
From your experience, uv and uc helps the battery?

Oh it's worth to say I'm an intruder here, thought I told that before, but I own an S2 , not a nexus 5.

Don't kill me please lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Security!!!!

Lol nah its cool. UV and UC do not help battery. They are mainly used for reducing heat. That's it.

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I would still freeze Facebook when not using it. Maybe create a toggle? If you don't want to freeze it maybe turn off sync and notifications?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Guys... Just a heads up in case you missed it... Djoledtc is on am S2 I think he said. ;)

Followed my Signature I bet.

I'm cool with that... 99 percent of this stuff is generic, not device specific.

But realize his times will be way less than the N5. Lol

?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Why not deleting that sucker app from hell and using the browser instead ? I do it this way and it's faster, better, and less battery waster .

Edit and offtopic: do you know any browser or way to browse internet with black background and white letters? It would save me some battery
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Oh... So is Facuu. Lol

T989 is another one of my haunts. Lol

No worries S2ions... We will try to help.... Most stuff is universal. Tho you should state you are on a different device.... Or some things we say to look at may not exist on your device. Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Lol it's cool. I learned [MENTION=4133749]Facuu[/MENTION] was on an S2 the hard and painful way through PM. I got nightmares. Lol JK.

[MENTION=4133749]Facuu[/MENTION] I agree with just using the browser. Battery friendly.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Eventually I'm sure some M8 folk may find the thread. Already got some of them wowwing with my third full M8 charge. Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
I hate you. In a nice way.

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[MENTION=4036181]KJ[/MENTION] You see that guy with 9 hours screen on in that M8 thread :crying:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Like any phone... Ereading can stretch the battery far. Lol

I haven't got a handle on the M8 average times for xda guys yet.... But I know I'm doing quite good. ?

Held awake issues seem very common there... I know that. Not sure why yet..... I think it's htc apps a lot.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I think I can get 9 SoT... But not over a 24 hours... And probably need to be on WiFi constantly. Also... I'm not done playing, still using auto brightness.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djoledtc:
Yea, i told a am on S2. It all the same :P. Ths all for help, i will try something and report back ...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bblzd:
It seems the S801 phones get practically the same battery life on LTE as they do on WiFi, have you noticed that to be the case as well?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I live in the boonies and my current job site is in the boonies.... Not sure my phone has even been on LTE yet. Lol

We'll see tho. :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=4133749]Facuu[/MENTION] check PM
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityameena26:
This particular cycle gave me 3hrs 16 minutes SOT..screen is at dimmest..location is off..I dont use 'Facebook'..I do use 'Facebook messenger' which does not load pics other than thumbnails..:(

Naah..not a second of gaming..:(

In my phone,there are 200 apps installed..most of them,which are used less frequently,are greenified..:eek:

I have just installed xposed framework..and installed module named 'per app hacking' in which we can control wakelock by any app by simple deny them (explained coz I thought its not so known module)..now I will observe next time when my battery goes to 5-6%,which apps caused wakelocks and will simply deny them from this module..Hope this helps..will report soon :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Its not that busy yet! Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Well, since everything else seems in order and you got a lot turned off....try a full battery cycle with zero YouTube use...if you can. Or any other videos. ;)

See how that goes. ?

Easiest way to see what youtube does to your battery.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityameena26:
I have location TURNED OFF completely..this morning I looked at my battery status..Device manager used gps for more than 3.5 hrs..how is it possible when location is turned off completely..:eek: :(
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Turn off Device Manager

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityameena26:
i uninstalled that..but still..I am surprising..how is it possible to access gps when I turned my location off? :eek:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
No idea. Just to make sure, do you have Device Manager unchecked? Security > Device Administrators.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aadilnz:
I'm pretty sure if device manager was using gps before you turned it off it would force gps to remain on until you close device manager.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
I always nuked it as soon as I flash a ROM lol Pretty useless.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] adityameena26:
Naah..it was checked..coz to work properly,device manager needs to b given admin priviledges..

Sometimes same thing is happened with 'Blackmart' app..(which is an app market everyone knows..) when location is turned off,it accesses to gps too..dont know how :(

And Blackmart doesnt need any device administration rights..:eek:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Device manager is known to drain battery.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joe2will:
Ive had my N5 since it came out the longest i have ever had SOT is about 2.5 hours, charge it almost everynight. normally 15-20 minutes gaming rest SOT whatsapp or internet browsing. i'm off work atm so use is different but i installed GSAM and here's yesterdays results not very good. screen is set about 20% cant get away with completely dim. location reporting is off and set to battery saving.

Screenshots hopefully below.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
[MENTION=1682636]joe2will[/MENTION] screenshots of the native battery monitor in android would also help so we can see the graph for your battery going down.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joe2will:
Been on charge for a bit since, should of said im on 4.4.3 and unrooted stock,

normal battery shot shows, no network at times which is not normal for me but i wasnt using it at the time, facebook, twitter is off only thing syncing is whatsapp
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Culprit seems to be the poor reception. Even if you're not using your data it can still drain your battery. Only way around that would be airplane mode when your signal is weak and you're not using it. Your device appears to be going onto deep sleep just fine so wake locks aren't the problem.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joe2will:
even when single is all green battery only gets max 2 hours on screen time normally just under, thats in a solid 4 bar H area while at work, which i cant get shots of as i left,
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Does your signal drop at times? Mobile standby is using more battery than anything else which isn't normal. It doesn't appear at all on my device.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joe2will:
not normally, last block of red was when i was alseep, phone was in same place as normal, other one earlier was locked in car when i was at beach, normally though solid green with odd thin line of yellow everyother day
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Well I'm pretty sure its something to so with your reception as GSam shows your phone radio as being used for 22 hours, as well as Android reporting it using the majority of your battery. Your device is sleeping normally so it definitely isn't wakelocks.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joe2will:
Its on charge now with full single i'll take second lot of screen shots tomorrow, only wakelocks i seem to get a lot of are mbam.power ones
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
Check yours now!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
I get LTE literally everywhere including inside lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
#goodforyou. Lol. Jk. I get 80 MBs down where I work in Atlanta.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I wish. Where I live signal is garbage period. Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Always 3-to-full bars LTE regardless what carrier you're on where I am, unless you're in a basement or something lol. I never worry about my signal. :victory:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
If I didn't have WiFi at home.. I'd have to have data off too... Or my battery wouldn't last 8 hours on standby even. It's that bad. Depending on the weather... Occasionally I have to go outside to make calls. Better than my S2 anyway, where even outside calls got dropped half the time. Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I must say.... The N5 was pretty good inside at home.... The Moto x similar, maybe a slight bit better.... And the M8 is a slight bit better than the X. I can walk around the house on a nice day with no call drops. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Also.. apparently some carriers here support LTE-Advanced, I wasn't even aware of that since the Nexus 5 can't use it LOL..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I get LTE if I drive 10 minutes east and pull over. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Facuu:
I don't even have lte on my phone. There is no 4g antennas on my county and there won't be till 2016, and 3g is collapsed so it works awful and it's almost alwayas on edge.

Stop complaining lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
#firstworldproblems
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Stop with the silly hashtags D:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Lol I do it just to annoy you :P. Sound familiar?

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Slightly off topic but we won't have to worry about battery life or wakelocks whenthis comes out in 2 years

http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/07/technology/innovation/cell-phone-charge/
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
I don't worry about wakelocks anyways :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Quit trying to act like you wouldn't use it :P
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
I charge my phone overnight and never need to during the day anyways lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
#goodforyou :nonexistentemoticon:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TarkoonXDA:
Since a few days I have a big problem with the battery duration with my Nexus 5. I didn't change anything, but I realized that my battery droppes extremely even when in flight mode with no apps running...<br />

I made a screenshot of the battery screen of android.<br />

What do you think, where and how should I start to analyse what the problem is?<br />

<br/>
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Please read post 4....we need better screen shots. . Or all you will get are guesses. ?

And screens from a long discharge.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=5534430]TarkoonXDA[/MENTION] That graph tells us nothing I'm afraid. I suggest you read the OP again on how to provide the right info so that we can help. And we prefer logs. Not screenshots. It's easier.

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[MENTION=4036181]KJ[/MENTION] The ninjas are strong in this thread :S
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TarkoonXDA:
Sorry for my far too fast and bad posting.

I'm just now reading everything needed and will repost something more qualified!