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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SamuriHL:
SuperSU manages root quite well. The precaution is that malware can use this exploit to install stuff that has root that you don't know about. Be vigilante about checking SuperSU. Just load it...and allow it to update the binaries as needed. Keep root checker app with denied root perms and load it periodically. If it's given root without being prompted for it, that's a sign that things aren't good on your phone. And use some kind of av app like lookout, yes.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
As far as I know all varients of the s4 had been rooted but only the first bootloader was hacked. Either way, that's my point. The later s4 will likely never have an unlocked bootloader and likely only be able to use safestrap for flashing.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
I see. You would like to have the option of switching to an update of there is a significant improvement even if it's not rootable.

In theory when you unroot OTA should work. In practice it's not that way. When a root method was found for 4.3 on note 3 we All got excited and went crazy with debloating and modding. Then 4.4 OTA came, we unrooted, and it didn't work! It turned out that the OTA first verifies that every single system file exists and is untouched. So hundreds of people had to go back meticulously and trace all of their steps after rooting and revert them. And I can tell you it wasn't easy. Even if you remember everything you have done you don't know what your apps have done and uninstalling the apps often doesn't revert those things and good luck if you have uninstalled any system apps.

So my suggestion to you is: right after rooting make a complete nandroid backup of at least your /data and /system so you can have a snapshot of the closest thing to what it was right before rooting.

Chances are though you will not want to upgrade...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
ks3rv3rg - Just looking at Xprivacy (I got xposed 2-3 days ago) & it looks pretty good. How could this be set relative to denying malware access? Or is this just something we're vulnerable to "permanently made this exploit possible on our phone"

SamuriHL - "Keep root checker app with

denied root perms

and load it periodically". Need to get the Pro version to do this? I keep Root checker on one of my 6 screens that is a page primarily for everything root (TiBu, xposed, SU etc). I've set Lookout to ignore towelroot but it hasn't flagged SU. This ok?

Thanks gentlemen
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
I never figured out how to make a nandroid backup with my stock ROM, do you have to do a recovery to access the backup? Stock can't do recovery..... I'm still Learning sorry

Sent from my GS4 Zombie Communicator
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Reechings:
So is it only a minority of people that are noticing any issues such as battery drain etc. after rooting? Just picked up my s5 yesterday and am already chomping at the bit LOL.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
I "had" an unlocked b/l on my S4 back on 5/3/14 when I got it. However, while is was sitting on the desk in front of the guy at verizon doing the paperwork I saw it get an OTA - literally in about 1 or 2 minutes after he activated it. I'm not arguing your point, was just pointing out my situation that was right in line with what you said.

What I find more interesting is the the Kernel build is 3.4.0 dpi@SWDD5015 #1 Fri Mar 28 13:38:41 KST 2014

and the Manufacturing date (per Phone INFO) was 2014.03.20 when the S4 hit the market in 2013 :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
I don't think you can do that without root since some of the os is not even readable to you. Even if it were possible, you would still need custom recovery or something like safestrap to recover it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SamuriHL:
You don't need pro, no. The idea is that you deny a root app using SuperSU and load it periodically to ensure that it is, in fact, denied root. That way if some malware surreptitiously replaces your su binary on you to one that's unmanaged you know. It's not bulletproof, but, it's just another check. Also, this goes without saying, but, SuperSU should be set to auto-deny root. It should NEVER be set to auto-grant. You want to see those root prompts so you KNOW what's asking for root. Just a few things to help keep you safe as you use root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] UnixSlayer:
Online Nandroid Backup....

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] John822:
I don't either
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
I'm fairly certain that one needs root because the first thing it does is to copy the script and a partition file in your /system. Besides I doubt it can access the boot and TA partitions and the like. But I can be wrong.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sonnycohopie:
I can't download the apk

The website wont let me download it. It just opens up the apk in text. Please help.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kpirnie:
rigth click... save link as...

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cnn888:
Yes i did, no dice. Still no root.:crying:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cq_:
Thanks

Works on THOR!

!!!!:cyclops:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] John822:
Nice, Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
Sorry for delayed reply, had to go help friend with flat tire. "SuperSU should be set to auto-deny root" I get the SU grant/deny pop up with most of the root apps I have fairly regularly and I grant it - so I believe this is set up the way SU did when I got it? Are you suggesting I deny these periodically or then delete and reload them? Or should SU be deleted and reinstalled to verify it's the valid version of SU? This "sounds" safe, but during that time that it ain't on the device it leave the device prone to an attack.

Sorry for the first grade questions that I shouldn't have after having several phones rooted the past 4 years, I just want to be certain I understand what you have said. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SamuriHL:
You're mixing together the two things I said as though they apply to the same thing. It's very simple.

1. Supersu by default denies root to a program unless you grant it. Don't change that some people get lazy and don't want to see all the pop ups so they change it to auto grant any application that asks for root. Seriously bad idea.

2. I said nothing about periodically denying random apps root. What I said was keep one app that needs root, I. E. Root checker, as denied in Supersu and periodically load it to make sure it doesn't have root. If it does you may have a problem where another application changed your su binary to an unmanaged one. Iow, you may have malware.

This shouldn't be complicated. It's just another way to keep an eye on your root privs to make sure it's not being abused.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] MrApple24:
root problems

I have a note 3 4.4.2 and have rooted the phone but after a day I had no root access. Can't use xposed or supersu. Phone shows unlocked lock at start up. Any help please.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sonix87:
Doesn't seem to be working on LG L9 MS769 software version: LGMS76910f. Root checker telling me my phone is not rooted still (tried v2 as well). Anyone have any luck with this phone?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
Sorry for my misread.

"Seriously bad idea" - no doubt! I actually had to set this from grant to prompt from within SU. I just discovered this, thanks. Good thing I looked into SU just now cause it was automatically going to grant access to all root apps. Sure, it may save time, but you're right about lazy people. How hard is it to wait what 3 seconds during which SU pops up the grant/deny window and those said lazy people then pressing grant :rolleyes:

This is simple to understand as was your 1st section of the reply. I apologize for misreading it & really appreciate your advice. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] weathertom:
Worked like a charm, thanks!

Simplest root I've ever done, great job. Will hit up your Paypal tomorrow.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Dude, quit asking the same question over and over again just because no one is answering you. You have asked the same question twice in less than an hour. The reasons why no one has answered your question are 1) This thread is about towelroot, not what bloatware apps you can remove; and 2) This is the Verizon SGS5 forum. Users from many different phones are posting in this thread simply because this root method works on so many different phones and people are discussing their successes or failures with the root method. Ask your question in the AT&T SGS4 forum. That will give you the best chance of getting the answer you are looking for.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tankavenger:
It's not a matter of supersu working honestly, the supersu says that su binaries aren't installed and that it can not do it. But towelroot is where my problem lies, I completely uninstall both programs installed towelroot version 2 ran it, it rebooted my phone and doesn't work and I tried version 1 and it reboots my my phone as well and restarts and doesn't work
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zatom:
OTA Root Keeper does NOT suppord Android 4.3 and above, see Play Store.

What's more, I think on Samsung devices OTA service does not work if the system is modified/installed.

Any other idea how to upgrade the official FW and to keep root without tripping KNOX?

Does it work with Mobile Odin "keepeing root" option without tripping KNOX?

Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
There is a way to upgrade and keep root using a modified version of the official ota but you need access to a custom recovery like safestrap. We have been doing it for the past two ota updates on the att galaxy s4.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gridflash:
An app that does this could be a useful product....

---------- Post added at 11:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:17 PM ----------

Good advice, Great tagline...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zatom:
Thanks. Could you please provide more details how to do this and how u did?

I used Mobile Odin on S3 to install the downloaded OTA from Sammobile with keeping the root options, it worked 3-5 times.

I do not know if it can work on S5 without keeping KNOX.

Important question: if u install a custom recovery, then Knox is tripped, right? :(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rsib5719:
help on ota

Hi just new to this. But I managed to root my note 3 intl just now. Im still on 4.3 firmware. I did nothing but root it with towel root. Now I was just checking for ota but I got the error "your device has been modified..." I was wondering if there is a metbod to make it official again but retain the root access?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] muniz_ri:
The details are in the i337 general forum, also neither safestrap nor the "keeproot" process i mentioned trip knox. But first things first, which is for [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] to develop safestrap for the gs5. I suspect its already on his to do list.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] huangjs:
I don't get it.

What is true:

1. The phone is so scary that even TowelRoot cannot root it

or

2. The phone is now rooted so it becomes a scary phone?

:confused::confused::confused:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chilangus:
Working on GS5 (G900M)

This works great on my Galaxy S5 (G900M) and this didn't tripped KNOX, thanks :)

Regards from Mexico

Este acceso root funciona en el Galaxy S5 (G900M) y no activa KNOX, gracias :)

Saludos desde México
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] s44:
Hm, neither version seems to root my P600 (Note 10.1 2014 wifi).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] The_Machinist:
Great work!!! rooted my g900f no Knox flag tripped. installed SU and we're on ?. PayPal donation has been made ?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G900F met Tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] psydex:
Will this work on Xperia device? I'd like to try it out on my fiends phone but i'm scared not to f♥ck it up so better ask first. :fingers-crossed:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] luqman98:
Yes, but not every Xperians.

1. Love doesn't need any reason.

2. Wanna speed up 3G (not 4G LTE)?

Here it is:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2586876

3. My blog

4. Press the thanks button if I really helped/assisted you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] EagleTalon1:
Hi, does it work also on sm-g900f ?

Greetings

Joey

---------- Post added at 12:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:09 PM ----------

Hi, i have also an sm-g900f , how did you do?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] livio80:
yes, it works!!!!!!!!!! tested, i have the same phone!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] EagleTalon1:
root sgs5

can you tell me how you did?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] FlatOutRU:
Thanks a lot! Knox 0x0 and i have root!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] inexperienced root junkie:
Rooted great on my s3

This worked like cake on my sch-i535, but I can't get a good recovery to flash. Any help would be appreciated. I am running the nv1 baseband. Do I need to go back?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] livio80:
go to http://www.towelroot.com/ and click on the lamba letter!

the phone will download an apk (named tr.apk). install that file. when installed, you will find a new application in the device with name "towelroot".

click on the app to launch it. when launched make a click on the only key that will appear (you'll see a key "make it rain"....click on it!!!!). i used version 1 of this tool (now there is version 2).

version 1 needed to reboot the phone. i have not tried this version 2 and i think that it will not reboot your phone (it will not need it)....but, for comfort, reboot manually.

done

;)

no need to install superSU; superSU gives you a major control on root but it is not necessary.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sgeto:
didn't work on my htc incredible S

the exploit unfortunately didn't work on my HTC Incredible S. After more than 15 seconds and a reboot the phone isn't rooted and gives the unusual status message that the phone has recovered from an unusual restart...

Any ideas? The official IRC channel is sadly pretty neglected...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Addiso:
Op says does not work on torta and HTC devices. Care to read?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1iwilly:
just for your FYI i'm on t-mobile took the new firmware yesterday which install VOLT after reboot we lost root. towel root v1 or v2 did not work at all,.so we odin back to the previous firmware and bam was able to root again. then we install the modem from the new OTA still have root then install just the firmware still have root so that leave the kernel no go takes root away can't re root just sharing our findings with the t-mobile new OTA.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] AndrOmega:
ATTENTION ANYONE !!!

BE WARNED !!!

this root method modify your device in custom device so no ota updates for you.anymore. and shows a padlock on booting.

also very big battery drain and many apps crashes.

waiting for a big fix from george hotz !!

:eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] EagleTalon1:
root sgs5

Hi, i have both version 1 and 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1iwilly:
you need to check again the towel root does not modified you device status i can confirm that. but i did found out that certain apps will setcpu will make it read custom instead of official also lucky patcher will modified it too. been there done that.so my advice is every time you add an app to check the status so you don't flip out and blaming it on some one else hard work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] livio80:
i can tell you about version 1...it will work like a charm.....i did not have test version 2 but I do not see reasons why not to think that would be suitable.....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tdetroit:
Unfortunately it didn't work on the P905V (Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2.).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] livio80:
I do not want be wrong but I think that any root (at least on samsung) disable updates OTA.

on S2,S3,S4,S5, S4Zoom...any root modification prevents and inhibites you official upgrades....that's not a real problem, i say.....it's a well-known feature of any rooting method
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jvtrigo:
On SM-G900M it works perfectly. System status Official and OTA working.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1iwilly:
dude it does NOT. go and read our threads on the t-mobile some guys took the OTA thru kies with the towel root method. like i stated before remove some of the apps you have install. then install one at a time while checking the about phone status, and you will find your problem.it is that simple been there done that my phone is only 2 month old making payments on it + jump and the warranty i don't want to chance tripping the knox and loosing all that. don't be so paranoid and read. as long as you don't trip the counter you will be able to take updates all day and again that has been confirm.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ashburton:
towelroot doesnt work on exynos devices?

sm -n900 note 3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] livio80:
Hello!

my S5 tells "official" on "phone status" but official upgrade won't work, if i press "update now".

that's not a problem to me; all phones i had, when rooted, lost the possibility to update officially....

furthermore, if i upgrade, i think i will lose the root (on other Samsung phones, like S4 or S3, it was like this!)...so i pay attention on this....i will update manually, in needed!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
I have the gs4, no battery drain here.

I also still get ota updates from Google Play..... I can't speak yet for OS updates.

I did freeze vrzn security manager also. (Verizon support and protection)

Sent from my GS4 Zombie Communicator
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Baltyre:
Don't work with S4 Active GT-i9925 on stock rom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sgeto:
Yeah I though he meant newer HTC devices... which the Incredible S isn't
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skiddingus:
I can say that this is not the case on my retail VZW S5. Battery life is excellent and I do not show custom on boot like it matters anyways. I doubt my phone will take an OTA with all of the mods I have made. Worst case I will need to flash back to stock, take the OTA and then reroot when an OTA is released. I have had no app crashes either except for the known issue with Wanam and SHealth which can be easily fixed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
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You ABSOLUTELY need to install superSU after you root otherwise you have zero control over the privileges and any random program or virus can take complete ownership of your phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Planterz:
Doesn't work on my LG LCRT1513SB countertop microwave, running Orville Redenbacher kernel version EXTRABUTTER.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] weathertom:
I've seen no such issues, and the OTA isn't a big deal anyway (can factory reset, OTA, and re-root if needed).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
You need kettle corn ☺

Sent from my GS4 Zombie Communicator
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
no, you should install supersu, but as he said it's not required.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cubfan99:
Got my popcorn to see how the drama unfolds after this. [emoji15]

-- Sent from my AT&T GS5 using Tapatalk VIP
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Atrankas:
[emoji1][emoji1]

Envidado desde mi Note 3 SM-N9005
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] livio80:
like i said, SuperSU gives you a major control on the root;

like you said, "otherwise you have zero control and virus can take complete ownership of your phone"

like i intended to say: "is recommended, it is useful but is not essential"....

post scriptum: i use a pc without antivirus or firewall because i need "full CPU" for my programs (for example: Traktor in timecode mode)...it can be dangerous like not installing SuperSU.......but never seen a virus......

it is sufficient to pay attention to what we're installing and analyze running services

, on both the phone and the pc.

that's it.

I do not understand your way of writing (in red and large)....furthermore we're saying the same thing!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1iwilly:
my 2cents is some of these guys need to read up on other threads this is the 3rd time i'm going to say it. the t-mobile phones with the towel root not the C-F root method

are taking the OTA with no issues what so ever you just can't re root with towel root again until a fix comes out again.half of these questions have been talk about already

and not to mention verizon boot loader is locked t-mobile isn't so if it works there why not here.??? and as far as SU expose ask for su titanium back up ask for su and so on.

again just my 2cents of experimenting
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] livio80:
it is what i was intending to say ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mrazzido:
i try it on galaxy camera EK-GC100 , it doenst work

camera reboots after pushing the button.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] louiscar:
Don't you need a custom recovery to make nandroid backups?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PIzzimperfect:
Reverse Towelroot

Is there any way to reverse towelroot once you've applied it?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] maksnogin:
Update official Rom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wtherrell:
No. A couple pages back was a link to an app for an online method of Nandroid backup. It's in the playstore. You just have to be rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PBakker:
I have an Lg l90 , after i rooted with towelroot, i received an ota and installed it, caused no problems whatsoever and root is stil there..

Greetz Peter
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
no once it is rooted you can use nandroid online backup to make a full backup of your system. To fully recover it though you need custom recovery. it is still very useful because even without custom recovery you can still use it to partially recover parts of the operating system if you lose anything
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] NickS4:
v2 worked for me on my S4 with a build that (I think) wasnt supported in v1. Still at 0x0 as well, love it!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Airboner:
doesnt work on G900H already rooted :(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zervic:
This has probably been asked before but I couldn't find anything. I rooted, installed a super user app... But it doesn't prompt me whenever apps are trying to gain root access. Any ideas why?

I lied. It's just ES File Explorer that isn't getting the prompt. Strange.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] artjrv:
I cant seem to find version 2. All I can download is version 1. Am I missing something??
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Does not work on Galaxy Tab 2 7" (GT-P3100 with 4.2.2 and Kernel 3.0.31-1769538).

Tablet / Smartphone just reboots.. No root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kest874:
It won't unless you enable root mode in ES File Explorer.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] j0ss7099:
I hope someday to work on my Xperia Z1 C6903 (14.3.A.0.757):good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zdoey33:
This kernel is a nasty sob , if anyone keeps record its also on tab3 8.0 sm-t310 JDQ39.T310XWUAMG3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DLegado24:
note 3 root problems

does anybody know how to unroot note 3. i rooted the phone but after a day i had no root access and could not install xposed and supersu. root checker says that device is not rooted properly. any help. I've rested the phone and still no access.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zervic:
Yea i did, but didn't prompt. Not too worried about it. So far every other app that needs root has caused a prompt. Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gridflash:
The G900TUVU1ANE6. OTA is supposed to be rootable. which firmware did yo use?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] louiscar:
Search this thread for "unroot".

... but from what I gather, you can use supersu's unroot option or you can flash your stock firmware back.