yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
I'd say so. Women always find something to complain about -___-

Not to Menton she uses WhatsApp and looks like a game or two. Those really chew up the battery.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Sounds just like you. :p jkjk
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
LMAO :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atrix4nag:
This is my BBS log for yesterday.. I got 2h 23 m screen time.

I casted netflix for around 40 mins..

Is my log looks ok, do I need to make any changes???

Thanks..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] olegplanets:
Half a battery dead in 2.5 hours with the phone being idle most of the time.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
It was 2.5 screen hours, not total. ?

That's on pace for 5. Pretty good if you ask me.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atrix4nag:
Confused...

I was using too many different threads to get a better battery life. Because of this, now I am not getting gmail push notifications, and i am confused in which thread to ask about it.

So I am starting from begining now.. I am installing rom freshly, and will follow steps in this thread.. Lets see how it will work..

I want to get gmail push notifications and better battery..

Hope I will get right this time.. :)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
1. Don't disable gmail sync

2. Don't disable services with gtalk, gcm or push in their names
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] atrix4nag:
Thanks for the reply.. I enabled few of gtalk services.. hope i did all required once..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pinkLeviosa:
How to reduce google play and android system wakelocks ??

I already used the new NlPunbounce xposed module but i havent seen any changes or differences..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
1. Play Services is fine, thats just GCM Push for notifications doing it's thing.

2. Those "wakelocks" from Android System aren't keeping your device awake when the screen is off. It looks like you're either Greenifying a couple of apps that you use often, or you decided to open every single app on your phone.

3. Don't attempt to fix a problem that doesn't exist.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MHousos:
I just got my Nexus 5 last week and it's great!! The battery life is good too. If anybody is having issues with battery life, I recommend reading this all info is already here It's helped me a lot :good:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
We have the relevant things here thanks. Post 2 and 3.

That guide lost me at undervolt for better battery. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MHousos:
Alright, just trying to help ;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Squarez:
Full battery gone in 20 minutes

Yeah so I looked around and didn't see anyone having the same problem I have. My battery is full, but ends up dying in 20 minutes from a full charge. The ONLY difference is I flashed CM10 a few days ago. I don't think it's the ROM because the battery was fine a few days ago, actually better than stock. But all of a sudden since this morning, my battery drains literally from full to 0% in 20 minutes or so with only music playing. Any ideas?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
CM10 means you're probably using an older device, and it might be because of an old battery.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Squarez:
Sorry, I made a rookie mistake and I apologize and thank you for having patience and not pointing it out. I have a Nexus 5 that's about a month old and it doesn't actually drain in 20 minutes I misread the battery statistics. About 20 minutes passed and it went from 100% to 79% so I'm looking at a percent point per minute which puts me in a little under 2 hours with only music playing and the screen off. I used to play music for hours while using the GPS until I flashed. Again I apologize for the faulty info and I appreciate your feedback.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Google Play 6.1 added a couple new syncs. They can all be disabled just fine. No battery drain/wakelock issues on 6.1 whatsoever.

Link to screenshots of the services I've disabled has been updated.

[MENTION=4036181]KJ[/MENTION] I think you should use spoiler tags in post #4. Lol.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Giolte_:
Operative System Android is killing my battery, today I have installed YouTube adaway and ActivityForceNewTask, have I to unistall them?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Doesn't tell us anything. Provide the screenshots mentioned in post #4.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Giolte_:
It's good now?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
You need to use your battery from about 100% to 10%.. Not install and take screenshots right away. Lol.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Giolte_:
My bad, sorry :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rollerdyke44:
attached all the relevant pics. Battery at 70%

android system is causing the issue :/

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B74fKeTYa6ljVTNsUkpjNnppSlE&usp=sharing
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
First, try taking screen shots from a much longer run. From 100 to about 10.

Second, I'm seeing only one real issue....and that could be poor signal while on data. That is a killer.

Third, if you have Google now on, location on etc....you can expect system things to be higher.

All that said, you are on pace for near 4 hours screen time, and depending on your signal, setup and usage...that can be completely normal in your case.

Try screen shots again anyway, cause so far, yours aren't that bad. Considering your very poor signal strength. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Far more setup details might help too. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rollerdyke44:
Sorry i forgot to tell those. google now, location, nfc etc are all disabled.

And i know i wont get 4 hours. It'll be around 3-3.5 hours MAX (without any gaming etc).

And i just checked signal details...

only 13% signals were low-medium.

4% Medium

And the remaining was high (and medium to high) so i guess the signal strength isnt as bad.

Btw, I feel that my phone eats a lot of battery in standby. I dont have pics to back it up but its almost 10-15% dischage every 6 hours on standby. I have installed greenify with snapchat, fb, fb messenger, skype etc all hibernated

EDIT: btw (as evident from the screens) google services and android system top the battery eatings... Is that normal?

Edit 2: right now I'm on 58% with 1.5hr sot. Much closer to my 3 hour sot time :P
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] racingmatt1:
@ kj how come when I go to the screen stat in gsam it doesn't categorize the screen brightness from low go high?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Try the longer discharge and we'll see what the screens show.

That red on your signal graph will be a huge drain on your battery though.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
New members may miss it. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] snappycg1996:
Android OS and System are the two battery suckers on my phone. What's weird is, my phone is always in airplane mode (using another phone ATM for testing), and when I use my N5 its on WiFi. The max I can get is maybe 3 hours SOT, with my brightness always lowest. I see people getting 5 hours and I'm like "what"? Haha I guess its better than the terrible battery I had on my Inspire 4G before I upgraded to this!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
The 5 or 6 hours SoT folk have probably done most the things in post 2 and possibly3....

The more you don't do...the less screen time you can expect.

Of course games and other highc cpu use type apps and signal strength will lower it too .
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
After testing roms with different kernels and almost same setup, i'm beginning to think that some kernels indeed are giving better SOT than other's. For instance, with elemental kernel, i get minimum 5hrs whereas stock kernel of every rom (mahdi, purity, optipurity. liquidsmooth,pa) gives 4-5hrs. With slim rom, even default kernel gave me 6hrs. Strange, isn't it?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
If a kernel is affecting your battery life, it's probably because of the default kernel settings, not because of the kernel itself. Sure the kernel itself can affect it too, but very, very minimally.

And just because you have "almost same setup" on different combinations, does not necessarily mean it's completely controlled. You're not getting the same amount of wakes from notifications. You're not using the exact same apps in the exact same way for the exact same duration with the exact same background processes doing the exact same things, while using the exact same clock speeds at the exact same times. Not every day of your usage is the exact same.

Look at any kernel and/or ROM thread. If one kernel/ROM had a "superior battery life" compared to another, then why would every thread have someone saying their battery life was "better" with the thread-relevant kernel/ROM? Chances are their usage was just different on that "one day of testing".
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
Agree with you. Even i too won't believe that kernel+Rom combination will give u better battery life. And coming to my setup, regarding clock speeds, you are 100% right but for other apps and notifications and wakelocks, i used the exact same setup lol :p I mean, taptalk browsing at night, watching youtube vids, reading newspaper at morning, playing games only when power goes off (usually 2hrs a day at the same time everyday ) and using facebook messenger. So, maybe there would be a minute change in my schedule, but almost everyday, this is my routine thing. I will greenify messenger whenever i won't use it. So, wakelocks, not in my phone :cool: I know battery life with kernel combination is subjective, but for me, i can identify those clearly.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Again, the only difference is probably because of the default settings that comes with the kernel.

Kernel settings are another factor that is subjective depending on how you use your device, and a LOT of people don't change the default kernel settings because they are unknowledgable. Therefore you get ignorant people that claim a specific kernel gives them better battery life than another, when in reality it was not the kernel itself, but because the default settings that come with the kernel suits their usage. Use the exact same settings on any kernel and it'll be very similar (excluding wakelocks and whatnot of course).

1. use whatever ROM you prefer that has the features you want

2. use whatever kernel you prefer that has the features you want, then configure it in whatever way suits your usage

3. manage wakelocks and syncs

3. enjoy your damn device and never have to worry about it again
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] swat4samp:
So, from an average user's perspective, any kernel with already tweaked values for performance/battery will give them an impression that it gives them more SOT. Well, i hate to say that i'm an average user too :( I never mess with settings of rom's default kernel other than governors and i/o. But, i won't go and report in other kernel threads that this kernel gives more SOT than others though ;) I know it's pointless to mention that in each and every thread.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Yeah. And usually a custom kernel's default settings are just what suits the person who built it. :p

Google (and OEMs) usually try to keep the default settings on their stock kernels "in between", which is why you get people that complain that it's "battery life is terrible", some who say "performance is terrible" and some who say it's "better than a custom kernel".

It's all usage subjective.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Not to mention some roms have more features than others and can be using small amounts of battery as well. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bblzd:
Nicely explained Leth. Unfortunately it's all too common for someone to flash a custom kernel, then use their phone completely differently than before they flashed and make claims that the kernel doubled their battery life. Custom kernels can't double your battery life unless your initial setup had some serious issues.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Giolte_:
However, the situation was again good.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] surrealjam:
Google play services seems higher on my usage stats these last couple of days too... I don't think I've changed anything in my set up.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bob Barnsen:
Well, funnily some hours after i posted this, i noticed that the activity of the Google Play Services decreased over time.

Now one day later my battery drain is as good as before this started, and the Services are not even shown anymore under my battery stats.

Problems appear out of nowhere, but disappear out of nowhere by themselves too it seems :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Cruria:
Similar problem with Android L

Tapatalké depuis mon Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boyz211:
Nexus 5 battery draining very soon

Dear guys,

my nexus device is unrooted. Just today morning my device started discharging as fast as possibe. I thgt it myt be charger issue so i changed my charger but then too its not charging. I switched off and kept my device for charging for 2hrs but when i switched on it was 100% but later drained in 15-20 mins. Now mobile is on only when its connected to powersuppy.

Somebody please can suggest what could possibly b worng and wat could be d different soultions i shd try.:confused::crying::crying::crying:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
A battery discharging in 15 minute sounds like a hardware issue. Replace the battery. Check for any bulging. You can still post SS if you want (Read the OP) But I think its hardware not a wakelock.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Maybe he tried putting his phone in the microwave.. lol jk
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwang:
Anybody notice that the latest version of Google play services 6.1.11 seems to have fixed the nlpcollectorwakelock issues?

My phone has been on battery for over 7hours and I only have 1min49secs all collector wake lock.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Other people still seem to get it.

Personally, I have never seen it once, on any version of Play Services :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dwang:
I was getting about 50min of nlpcollectorwakelock using an older version of google play services.

I did disable sync on a bunch of google apps I don't use so many that could have helped.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
That's because you don't use location :P jk
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
If I used location, then I would have a Tasker profile that enables and disables the services when I need and don't need them.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Which I have. I know tasker backwards and forwards hahaha
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
I have a paragraph added on it in post 3 :angel:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] racingmatt1:
So do I have to be rooted in order to do this with tasker?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Yeah, you need to check "Use Root", as well as obviously having root permissions. You need root access to use Disable Service and to see wakelocks in GSAM/BBS too anyways.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Somehow didn't see this post earlier lol.

Build your own ROM already! Wakelock blocker and a bunch of other stuff waiting for you :p
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b00bs:
I guess yours is ported blackphone ROM. LOL.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Wat
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] b00bs:
I was joking because of your post below.

And I read somewhere you have build your own ROM.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HellRazOr88:
I don't have a prob with my battery, i talk about Sony Xperia 2 drivers, i'm lost about drivers, my battery is ok.

I'm new here and that's just a little bit complicated to find the good category, pleaz understand !!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
I don't think [MENTION=5666997]Lethargy[/MENTION] knows what Blackphone is. I hope he does though [emoji14]
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I've told you where to ask in your original Assist thread. I suggest you read it again and ask in the section I linked you to. Or read the other threads I linked to you.

This is a Battery help thread. Please refrain from posting here about your unrelated issue.

Again...post in your forum section or read the other threads I gave you.

You'd probably have your answers by now if you did. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
I don't know how its related but ok LOL
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IWRH:
That is damn trueh! Specially governors ! They do a lot (atleast for meh ) :D
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
Yeah, governors is a big part since it affects the clock speed usage.

DO:

1. Find a kernel with the features you like

2. Configure it to suit your usage (even copy the settings from another kernel if they suit you)

3. Learn a bit more along the way

DON'T:

1. Disregard the kernel with the features you want because the default settings don't suit your usage

2. Switch kernels because of settings that you can change yourself anyways

3. Subsequently, learn nothing
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bblzd:
The last few days I'm seeing higher than normal Google Play Services usage. Consistently higher up my list and showing roughly 3x as much CPU and awake time. Since then I've seen many people reporting the same, so I guess we can assume it's the latest (6.1?) update.

I've tried the usual tricks of clearing the storage cache (Settings> Storage > Cached data) and rebooting, as well as enabling locations and disabling them again with a reboot in between. No luck so far.

Could this drain be attributed to any particular feature perhaps? No screenshots as they'd just seem like regular GPM usage to most, but I can tell it has increased 3 fold for my usage.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
It's the exact same for me.

Are the wakes actually waking your device when the screen is off? If so, GSAM or BBS.

If the "wakes" are happening when the screen is on, then it hardly matters.

Just because a device shows "wakelocks" does not necessarily mean its waking your device when the screen is off, it could just be normal usage while the screen is on.

Best way to check:

In GSAM there are two separate values (not for specific wakelocks, just the specific apk): Number of wakelocks, and Number of times waking device. Only the second one really matters since a "wakelock" while the screen is already on makes no difference.

And the stock battery graph of course, as it shows when the screen is on and when your device is awake.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Gsam graph shows wake times too. Tho I've seen a few times they don't tend to jive. Not sure which is more reliable.

I'll go with gsam tho....since for the longest time my Moto X's stock battery graph had no lines whatsoever for wake time, and gsam did. Lol
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markokrstic:
Battery Repair app

yesterday on nightly version my battery from 100%-0% for 5 hours. After installation of this app for battery I have 83% now and 8h 46 min on battery. PM me for battery app cause I cant post link cause Im new here.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
100 to dead in 5 hours means you used the phone nearly the whole time, or something got stuck running, or your signal was extremely bad. And now it's ok for whatever reason. The problem corrected itself.

Or your app is simply turning of data....which could be the difference.

Either way, all your battery app is doing is hiding your real issue. It's likely data related. A rogue app or poor signal. The app is likely turning data off so you aren't draining. That's like putting a bandaid on a gunshot wound tho. You really should look into the issue that drained you in 5 hours.

Solve the issue and uninstall the app. You'll be much better off. But we need screen shots as shown in post 4 to help. ?

And likely no one will be wanting that app.....it's widely known that "battery saver" apps cause more drain than they save...except for extremely light users.

?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rahulpat13:
Really well put!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markokrstic:
You app can not be installed

[IMG="73% - 9h 33m"]http://imgur.com/cTzhtEn.png[/IMG]

[IMG="History 73%"]http://imgur.com/L4UJkpk.png[/IMG]

[IMG="47% - 14h 53m"]http://imgur.com/HWhBpsB.png[/IMG]

[IMG="History 47%"]http://imgur.com/sfbkER0.png[/IMG]

I think this is good reason to say that app works great! isn't it?

and I tried to install your app but can not be installed.

P.S. Phone is connected on WiFi all the time, Viber, FB, Fb messenger, WhatsApp, 8 emails accounts.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
Battery life saver apps do absolutely nothing to save battery. Yes it may turn off data for you if you are in a poor signal area which can save battery sometimes. (It takes 2 seconds to do this manually anyway). But that's pretty much the only circumstance. And usually even this simple task causes problems.

Why?

Because every time these apps try to"save you battery" by toggling connections they just create wakelocks. And More times then not these never get released. As if that isn't enough, if you have auto schedule setup then you are creating more alarms (# of wakeups from deepsleep in this case) which decreases deep sleep time and increased battery drain. Trust me I used to be all about these apps until about 2 years ago.

Then I learned about wakelocks. Do me a favor. Download betterbatterystats (or even better GSAM) and use the phone for a day. Right down to 10%. Then look to see how many alarms the app created. Then in GSAM look at the stat "#of times waking device". Now in BBS look at deep sleep time and percentage. Now the next day do the same thing but with the "battery saving" app UNINSTALLED. You will see an improvement.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Elluel:
They've always been extremely similar for me. I just prefer the native one since its easier to get to (and looks somewhat cleaner). Tap on the quick settings tile then tap on graph. Lol.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markokrstic:
apps installed

Dear Sir,

what I want to say is that I had 4.1.2 JB android, my battery was max 12-13 hours. Then I installed 4.4.4 KitKat Cyanogenmod a 2 months ago Nightly version, my battery was max 13-14 hours. few days ago I updated new nightly version and max battery was 4-5 hours, Yesterday I installed this app, and with WiFi on all the time, viber, whatsapp, 8 email accounts, FB app, FB messenger I have 28% more and 16h 48m on battery! Lol! Samsung Galaxy S II Int. I can monitor this your two apps and post here, but idk why you r against this app which I installed if Im on battery almost 17 hours with all turned on apps and 28% more.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wh1t3Rose:
[MENTION=3601086]markokrstic[/MENTION] with all due respect I am against it because it's placebo. For one, you should never judge battery on new ROM flash until at least 2 days. This is because the ROM has to build up cache and dalvik cache and battery tends to be slightly worse until this process finishes. So you getting better battery a couple days later and installing the app a couple days later was in no way correlated.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bblzd:
This is the same as when someone installs a new kernel and claims it doubled their battery life. No one's trying to say you didn't notice improved battery life, just that there's no evidence showing that your battery saver app was the cause of it.

There are apps that can help you save battery such as Tasker, Llama and IFTTT. These are light weight applications which follow conditions and actions you set up so they attribute minimal CPU and awake time.

Any app that is attempting to automatically resolve issues for you such as Snapdragon Battery Guru or the many (many) others like it should be avoided in favor of tasking apps.