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[Fire TV General] lennie paz:
My router is an ASUS AC1900 Dual Band Router, and the signal is very strong.The AFTV is connected to the router using 5Ghz. I also have Comcast Blast, which is 105Mbps.

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The method will work, but all the newer AFTV's are shipped with the newest firmware, which can't be rooted.Best Buy and Staples are supposedly the best places to find one that can still be rooted. They are on sale for $84 at both places right now, until the 21st. Use this when you go to buy one, and it will tell you if it is still rootable.

http://www.aftvnews.com/amazon-fire-tv-serial-number-decoder/
[Fire TV General] hank3fan:
That's great because as much as I dislike going to best buy that's where i intended on getting mine.

Thanks for that link buddy! I actually saw that the other day and didn't bookmark it like a dummy.

I haven't had the opportunity of reading through many threads yet but is there an app similar to titanium that allows you to uninstall bloat?
[Fire TV General] lennie paz:
There really isn't any bloatware on these things.
[Fire TV General] hank3fan:
OK. I'm only familiar with rooting my galaxy 1 and s3.

Don't want annoy by asking many questions because I haven't read much but is it similar to rooting a phone?

CWM,kernels and things of that nature?

I'm wondering if I'll be and to uninstall apps that come with as is without root or if I can only do that by rooting?

I'm not to concerned with changing the ui and using exposed mods.

With that being said and what little info I've given you would you assume that I'd be happy with as is out of the box or is rooting this device really help with much other that the ui and such?

Most apps that I want to use can be side loaded.

Sorry for derailing this thread but your help is greatly appreciated.

I'm sick and tired of my roku 3.
[Fire TV General] lennie paz:
They aren't like rooting a phone. No CWM or kernels to deal with. As far as root, I don't know what they are like when they aren't rooted, because mine is rooted. I know you need to be rooted to have the AFTV go directly to Kodi when you boot it up, instead of going to the Amazon home menu. You would also need to be rooted to manually update to the latest firmware if you wanted to. I haven't felt the need to update my firmware though.
[Fire TV General] hank3fan:
Sounds like I probably won't root. Thanks for the info and help though. Is the devil good with live sports and is navi-x still around?

How hard is it to add add ons?

I'd imagine you would put the .zip on a flash drive and add them they way. That sound about right. If not don't worry about supplying a link. Google is your friend after all

You mind pm'ing me your must have add ons of you don't mind?

I've dabbled with xbmc but it was on my phone and that was about 2 years ago. It was laggy and I only did it to check it out, not to really benefit from it.

Thanks again
[Fire TV General] lennie paz:
Install the addon installer. All of the good addons are in there.

https://seo-michael.co.uk/how-to-manually-install-the-addon-installer-for-xbmc/
[Fire TV General] hank3fan:
You ever heard of FiredTV launcher?

https://github.com/Redth/FiredTVLauncher/blob/master/README.md
[Fire TV General] lennie paz:
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Yes, I've seen that launcher, but never tried it. Install this on your PC to sideload apps to the AFTV. That program let's you do all sorts of other things too.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2786505
[Fire TV General] hank3fan:
You're a good and helpful guy Lennie
[Fire TV General] Zacharybinx34:
I got a new Fire TV and it has the newest firmware built on it.

Is there anyway at all to root now?

Thanks!
[Fire TV General] superkoal:
Atm there's only the hardware root.
[Fire TV General] Zacharybinx34:
Without root is there any way to use an external USB HD with Kodi/XBMC?
[Fire TV General] nufclad:
Only if it's network mounted
[Fire TV General] Zacharybinx34:
Easy enough. Any advice on what method and how to set that up?

Only other major thing I need to do is edit the AdancedSettings.XML file for better streaming.

Thanks!
[Fire TV General] Chinomedic:
HD firestick

Not sure if this is the proper way to start this thread , I am trying to find out in order to use showbox I need a remote with a pad on it so it has a cursor on the screen. I have purchased several remotes with no success. Helpppppppp. Thank you !
[Fire TV General] laxnuf:
How about we send emails to amazon asking why usb isn't available for storage and showing disappointment?

I have already sent mine.
[Fire TV General] phonedroid:
I am also curious to know - if I buy a Fire TV and install all updates it asks me to, will it still be possible to root it?
[Fire TV General] superkoal:
Yes, but not via software exploit. The only method atm is hardware hacking, what means opening the device and soldering an SD-adapter to the flash chip's data lines.
[Fire TV General] tarvoke:
the easy answer is: marketing/greed - easy enough to speculate that spamazon wants you to either:

- subscribe/pay for Prime.

and/or

- have all your videos/music/etc. in their cloud, i.e. also pay for it all.

allowing usb storage would mess up that business model. this is my guess, anyway.

you can still always set up a NAS and mount it with ES file explorer or directly within XBMC/Kodi, at least.

what I wonder is, what benefit they get out of screwing up bluetooth devices. it's not like they want to limit you to their own controller hardware, since they do allow psx controllers, ouya controllers, some certain keyboards/mice. and why have such poor support for BT audio?

I already have an Echo arriving in 04/2015, will be interesting to see how much (or none) interaction is provided with KFTV -- bluetooth or otherwise.

I can understand the overall fact they are trying so hard to keep FTV/FTVS unrooted - they are selling these powerful devices (quite cheaply, quite possibly at a loss) and their real way of making way more money is the UI they are forcing you to watch, and the various content they are selling. I don't like that model, but I'd say it's halfway smart, and it's not exactly evil or anything.

just remember: "if you are getting something for free, you are not the consumer; you are the product being sold."
[Fire TV General] alwaysbless:
I picked up 2 FTVS on saturday and rooted both without issue. Method is to use open dns to block the update sites and plug the FTV in with an ethernet cable before booting, itll fail and ask you if youde like to skip updating and just login in with your amazon account. From there you will be able to root and install recovery.
[Fire TV General] navigates:
What Series did you pick up. Was it 3? With series 2 I couldn't get passed the forced update. By Series 3 I mean 70900305 - 305 or 303. etc.

btw where did you pick them up from. The bestbuy and staples all have new stocks now. :( I'm looking for one more.
[Fire TV General] piscean008:
I am planning on buying a new fire tv I will use this mainly for XMBC/Kodi. Is this still rootable ? I heard amazon will blow up the efuse with their new firmware update. Or Should I go with google nexus player ?
[Fire TV General] hank3fan:
I just bought one yesterday at best buy. I checked the serial numbers on 15 of them and none of them could be rooted
[Fire TV General] navigates:
It's getting harder to find the rootable ones. I just got one on eBay which is rootable. I too couldn't find it in bestbuy and staples. They all have the new serials
[Fire TV General] xaudiblex:
Same here in Dallas. They were all nicely lined up and all of them were the new revisions...
[Fire TV General] patt2k:
my friends ordered 2 from staples both came rootable.
[Fire TV General] navigates:
Interesting. I still believe if we order online from bestbuy or staples, we can get lucky. A friend ordered 4 from bestbuy and all came rootable with series 3. the stores have a newer stock.
[Fire TV General] SPiKeGoD:
Is it possible to root the new 4k devices?

Software version: Fire OS 6.2.6.5 (NS6265/2157)

Init fire tv version: 6.1.7.0-713
[Fire TV General] gehx:
now we need a custom recovery :)
[Fire TV General] steellz:
that seemed to work thx !
[Fire TV General] highgear:
Glad you were able to properly disable it! I'm not super familiar with adb and am struggling with the correct sequence to get this permanently disabled. Do you think you could write out exactly what to type in order to get this working? Thanks!

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Ok I figured it out. I was not getting superuser access at first. I needed to go into the SU program that was sideloaded onto the firetv and set default access to "grant".

Once this is done, here is what needs to be done through adb:

adb connect *IP HERE*

adb shell

su

pm disable com.amazon.dcp

The result should be:

Package com.amazon.dcp new state: disabled

Hope this helps.
[Fire TV General] NaturalBornHaxor:
Sure. I'm going to assume you have adb already setup since you wouldn't have gotten this far without it! ;)

From your computer, run the command "adb shell". This will connect you to a remote shell on the Fire TV. Your prompt should now look like this:

shell@android:/ $

At that prompt, type su and press return. You might get prompted by SuperSU on your TV asking if you want to grant root permissions to adb. We need to grant it of course.

Now your prompt should change to:

root@android:/ #

Now that you've got a root shell, you can run the "pm disable com.amazon.dcp" command. You should see output like the following:

root@android:/ # pm disable com.amazon.dcp
Package com.amazon.dcp new state: disabled

You can verify that that package is not running by running "ps | grep dcp" from the shell. You should not see any entries with "com.amazon.dcp" in them. You should probably just see an entry for "hdmi_hdcp". See the output directly after "Now from an adb shell:" in my earlier post for a full transcript of what we just did. The initial "ps | grep dcp" is so we can compare before and after.

Happy hacking!

Edit: I see you figured it out!
[Fire TV General] lolwatpear:
any useful things we can immediately do with root right now?
[Fire TV General] iRet:
Usb storage mounting is not useful for you?
[Fire TV General] Redth:
Can you give a bit more detail? Where on the filesystem does this sqlite database exist? And are you suggesting this will cause all apps to show up on the launcher?

Thanks!
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
Has anybody had success saving games and being able to play them from hard drive?
[Fire TV General] Stevie G:
Editing hosts for me failed at chmod. Instead I side loaded root browser and modified the hosts file directly on the Fire TV.[/QUOTE]

Is all of is really necessary, I have used these instead.

http://www.firetvnews.com/how-to-block-ota-update-for-amazon-fire-tv-and-keep-root-access/

I have used now all 3 options, 1) on my router 2) adding the info in the hosts file and 3) disabling all updates to AFTV.

Lemme know if these are necessary

su

mount -o rw,remount /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system /system

chmod +w /etc/hosts

vi /etc/hosts

:wq!

mount -o ro,remount /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system /system
[Fire TV General] roligov:
pm disable com.amazon.dcp will be sufficient, you don't need to do the others if you do that.
[Fire TV General] neotheone11:
I have the same question.
[Fire TV General] Yigo:
Bricked AFTV ? Need help

Hi to all ,

I rooted my FTV . i did the blocking thing by host editor, until now all is good

By stupid mistake i restored the amazon FV to factory settings and now i can not go past the register screen .

I can not SSH to the FTV nor through Adb , do i have a new paper weight or something can be done

Please help

TIA yigo
[Fire TV General] pmcdunnough:
Actually no. I don't quite get why you would for the most part. I can see it being useful if it allows you access to the play store, XBMC on a home screen, etc ... Very neat accomplishment but it seems to defeat the purpose of the FireTV.
[Fire TV General] lippstuh:
I figured this out last night. Tested this with ES File Explorer to access the mounted drive. Also defined video sources in XBMC. Everything is working well... Note that I didn't test this extensively.

To mount a USB storage, try using an app:

adb install chainfire's stickmount (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=eu.chainfire.stickmount) or any similar app

It should be pretty simple after that. Launch stickmount and there you go.
[Fire TV General] byrdcfmma:
IMO, additional storage options are the only way this will ever be a true gaming machine. 5+g, what is left after os, is just not enough when the better games use up so much storage for their data files.
[Fire TV General] arman68:
Great find! Here's how to do it:

Either sideload Titanium Backup which includes SQLite3, or SQLite Installer for Root.

Connect to your Fire TV with adb, and launch a root shell:

adb start-server
adb connect x.x.x.x
adb shell
$ su

Edit the settings database with SQLite3 (I am using the TitaniumBackup binary; with the other one, you might not need to specify the path):

# /data/data/com.keramidas.TitaniumBackup/files/sqlite3 /data/data/com.android.providers.settings/databases/settings.db
sqlite> SELECT * FROM global WHERE name="install_non_market_apps";
22|install_non_market_apps|0
sqlite> UPDATE global SET value=1 WHERE name="install_non_market_apps";
sqlite> SELECT * FROM global WHERE name="install_non_market_apps";
22|install_non_market_apps|1
sqlite> .quit

Reboot:

# reboot
[Fire TV General] Xavier000:
Can it be used with xbmc???
[Fire TV General] pmcdunnough:
That's a good point. I have the Amazon controller and bought a few games but I just don't see it as a games' machine, even a for light gamers. Sony has perhaps a better grip on that. If you are going to game on the TV then I suspect one of the real consoles would be a better choice.

Don't misunderstand though, I think that rooting the Fire TV is very neat and hopefully XBMC will benefit.

Philip
[Fire TV General] One.Hit.Kill:
Google Play Store

Noob Question: once I install stickmount and turn on installing "unknown sources" can I install the google play store... If so is it the same method as the kindle fire hdx? I have many paid "root" apps I would like to have on my Fire Tv...
[Fire TV General] osc000:
kitKat

how can we removed amazon os and load kitkat os or other version so we can have full control of this box

if it can be done .!!!:D
[Fire TV General] wavrunrx:
cool your jets speedy gonzalez, the bootloader is still standing in the way. :cowboy:
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
Lol
[Fire TV General] JohnnyPrimus:
Is there a safe source for this apk?

Did not actually realize that all the links posted were actually generated through apk-downloader :)
[Fire TV General] {ParanoiA}:
If you are looking to get rid of fire os you may wanna check out https://github.com/freedreno/freedreno/wiki/FireTV
[Fire TV General] iRet:
Unfortunately it's not an option with locked bootloader.
[Fire TV General] MadJoe:
I'm just wondering if Root breaks Amazon Video app like on phones? I read this entire thread and no one has asked yet; did I miss something that makes the answer obvious?
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
I just saw your post and tested it. It still works fine (played a movie from amazon prime).
[Fire TV General] SanDiegoSteve:
Awesome!

Has anybody gotten Google services and Play Store working?
[Fire TV General] Xavier000:
How do you intall google playstore??
[Fire TV General] MadJoe:
I would assume that with root you could adb push the Play Store and Play Services apk's to system, set the permissions, and reboot. I haven't tried it yet, though, so I could be wrong.
[Fire TV General] {ParanoiA}:
Don't think anyone has gotten it functioning yet
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
I'll give it a go and cross my fingers that my **** doesn't get bricked.

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Everything installs fine and whatnot but once you get everything up and running you're greeting by a lovely "No connection" message.
[Fire TV General] realtuxen:
Ouya does exactly the same unless you install the Xposed-framework and enable the addon named playstore fix.

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/xposed-installer-versions-changelog-t2714053

Some say this also works. I can only confirm the above.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2110225
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
Do you have a link for that?
[Fire TV General] realtuxen:
This was the one I used.. I searched but couldn't find exactly the same here it's probably been updated if it does not work try search.

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/39926172/de.robv.android.xposed.mods.playstorefix_v3_90b29b.apk
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
I...I'm going to try that when I get a chance.
[Fire TV General] realtuxen:
Looking forward to hear about it.. and get my posts up so I don't have to verify and wait all the time. Heh
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
Tried it and sadly it didn't do anything. Xposed recognized it and whatnot but none of the settings did anything to change the not connected deal. Bummer.
[Fire TV General] calvano915:
Cannot get root

I run towelroot, the ftv reboots, and it doesn't have root. I tried a factory reset but still the same result. I have no idea why its not working.

Edit: I have the latest supersu installed as well. I'm dumbfounded that Im having an issue as it's pretty hard to screw up. Is there anything that would prevent towelroot from succeeding? Or is there something happening when the device is starting back up?
[Fire TV General] d_bot:
You need to side load the SU app also.
[Fire TV General] calvano915:
I have both sideloaded (tr v1 and supersu 1.99r4).
[Fire TV General] d_bot:
What are you doing to try and prove you have root?

Can you adb shel to your firetv, and su? Superuser app should pop up and ask if you want to grant permission (if you havent set it to always grant)

hero: platform-tools $ ./adb shell

shell@android:/ $ su

root@android:/ #

Or try side loading some app that requires root permissions.
[Fire TV General] calvano915:
When I run SuperSU after reboot, it prompts to update and I choose normal, and the installation fails. When i try to shell su it says must be suid to work properly.

Thanks for this help. This is very difficult to figure out and I seem to be the first person to have this problem.
[Fire TV General] ahoslc:
You need to also flash Supersu
[Fire TV General] calvano915:
I have the latest release of supersu sideloaded as well.
[Fire TV General] ahoslc:
What version of firetv does it say you have?
[Fire TV General] calvano915:
51.1.0.2_user_510058520
[Fire TV General] buscemi:
N00b question, but does rooting keep your existing data/apps/etc? Or is a system restore essentially required?
[Fire TV General] bradr00lzd00d1:
No restore required you'll still have everything :)
[Fire TV General] krelvinaz:
I finally got some time to really look at this.

The instructions were excellent.

For what it is worth, My FTV is at the software version: 51.1.0.2_user_510058520

Only thing I was not able to do was the SQL editor portion (unknown sources) which I need to use the keyboad for (not at hand at the moment). No biggie.
[Fire TV General] {ParanoiA}:
[MENTION=1469354]calvano915[/MENTION] try to run the towelroot app again and then run superuser again n try to do normal update. Can't hurt if it doesn't seem to be working yet for you
[Fire TV General] Dukester2002:
I've done two ftvs now, just to confirm I can remove/uninstall towel root apk after right? But leave su obviously
[Fire TV General] {ParanoiA}:
Yes towelroot can be removed. Also I tried editing a few default.prop values but they reverted to original values on reboot.
[Fire TV General] rbox:
Anything outside of /system is going to come from the kernel ramdisk so anything you change there won't get saved. We need to wait until the bootloader gets unlocked to modify that stuff.
[Fire TV General] krasny2k5:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEruWaKKviQ&feature=youtu.be

And the comment from Rob Clark:

That means that we can unlock bootloader with UART port?. In the video he soldered three cables to UART port, one i assume is ground and the other two (data in, data out).
[Fire TV General] roligov:
I would like a recovery menu so at least we could restore an OTA firmware some how. I'm a little hesitant to go too far down the rabbit hole without the option of restoring a possible brick.
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
same here. I've looked at threads for building your own CWM recovery, and have dumped the stock recovery, decompiled it, ect. but would rather wait for someone more experienced.
[Fire TV General] robclark:
the UART was just for debug, so I could see what I was doing ;)

maybe something could be done with jtag. There is anyways sort of a bootloader jailbreak (not mine), but it's waiting on an update from amazon.
[Fire TV General] krasny2k5:
Thanks for the explanation!

With towelroot out i think update is imminent.
[Fire TV General] Dukester2002:
slightly off topic but on your ftv running fedora do you have the capabilities of changing the refresh rate, or is this a hardware limit? 24p is something i would really like to use one day on this box, i have no plans of running android if a linux option is available.
[Fire TV General] kiddecks:
i wish T3CH was here...

to make some prebuilt XBMC system images :)
[Fire TV General] jdellingson7:
Help

I have installed just as op instructed and when I open Superuser it gives me a message that "there is no SU binary installed, and Superuser can't install it. This is a problem! Not sure what I'm doing wrong here but would appreciate any help, thanks!
[Fire TV General] Barriemore:
I was having the same issue - I found that if I downloaded version 1 of towelroot (found on the link mentioned) SU would install.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
For others who are about to use towelroot,install both apps (Towelroot and SuperUser) BEFORE making it ra1n.

I did it that way and Superuser updated properly.

I have SuperUser 1.99r4 installed on my Fire TV since just before using Towelroot.

Also,if you randomly have trouble with adblock plus (proxy error/no longer blocking ads),you can fix it by making SuperUser forget it if it is in the list that should be empty.

Then disable and re-enable adblock plus filtering to fix the issue.
[Fire TV General] DHO:
To clarify disabling updates type:

adb connect <your_ip_address>

adb shell

su (you will need to hit okay on the super user prompt on the FireTV)

pm disable com.amazon.dcp
[Fire TV General] {ParanoiA}:
Does anyone have the original version of towelroot that they could pm me?
[Fire TV General] wavrunrx:
yep:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/66962/tr.apk
[Fire TV General] jdellingson7:
Thanks man! That did the trick
[Fire TV General] mikespe:
I did this exactly but I'm not getting any message after that...no KIlled or Package com.amazon.dcp new state: disabled....how do I know if the block took & if not how do I get it to take?

Thanks!!
[Fire TV General] DHO:
Did you install super user + busybox? And open both apps to enable them?

I will edit the post above, you will need to confirm with superuser on the amazon fire when you type 'su'
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
Just wanted to pass word, playstore is in full effect guys!!!

http://www.firetvnews.com/how-to-install-the-google-play-store-on-the-amazon-fire-tv/
[Fire TV General] roligov:
Added to the first post! About to install the Playstore myself right now :)