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[Windows 8 General] Christopher Price:
Clearing a few things up.

1) The assertion that it's "easy" to license drivers in the Android system is incorrect. It's easy to license drivers when you are building hardware. Doing what Console OS is doing, it is not easy. Several hardware vendors have stated quite clearly to us that we are the only startup that has ever been licensed to ship their driver bits for someone else's hardware implementation on Android x86 silicon.

2) XenGT is the hypervisor. InstaSwitch is a superset of XenGT. Clearly we would not be building a hypervisor with $50k from scratch - we're proud to stand on the shoulders of giants there. InstaSwitch will superset XenGT with the system prep and toggles that let you go quickly between Windows, and Android - and possibly Linux and SteamOS, depending on demand (and support from other companies in the ecosystem).

3) You can read whitepapers on XenGT. It's in an active state of development. You can set up an early access preview of XenGT today and demo it for yourself on Ubuntu.

As we've said before, at AnDevCon Boston hundreds of people went hands-on, and you can watch the Intel AnDevCon Boston keynote to see the same OpenGL ES 3 demos. We have said quite clearly that we are an Intel ISV - if we were vaporware, there's no way we would have made the cut for an Intel keynote.

We realize some people just won't be happy until they can download Console OS Standard for free or pay for Console OS Pro at retail - and that's fine. Some people have a disdain for Kickstarter, and that's fine.

And some think this is all really easy to do. That's fine too. We think we're delivering the best dual-boot solution to the marketplace, and we'll keep making it better.

We are funded at this point and working on stretch goals - we appreciate those that are helping us make Surface Pro (3) support happen in our stretch goal!

ConsoleOS.com
[Windows 8 General] Christopher Price:
The only "bans" I'm aware of on Android-x86.org have been related to disrespectful behavior.

I do find it funny that a vocal minority of just a few people toggle between declaring my team agents for some large corporation, and then toggle back to calling us vaporware. Neither are true, laughably.

While there have been some spirited discussions regarding the licensing status of code in Android-x86.org, I'm not aware of any code being stripped from it... it still, to this day, has both libhoudini and GMS in it. Nobody has been banned AFAIK - and even if they were, my team has zero say or power in such matters.

My team does participate on Android-x86.org discussion boards, as Android-x86.org runs much better on ancient devices, whereas Console OS is focused on the next generation of PCs and PC Tablets (as well as today's, of course).

And, finally, as we have promised (despite any obligation to do so), all AOSP-derived code we craft in Console OS will be shared upstream... so it will eventually benefit Android-x86.org too.

ConsoleOS.com
[Windows 8 General] Naddict:
Thread cleaned...there is no room for unnecessary drama and childish activity here at XDA, and for the record, this is a membership site that has some basic requirements of how its members act.

If you cannot behave, you will be infracted, then banned.

Take the playground antics off of XDA and keep this site classy.

Reset and re-do time in here.

You have been warned.
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
Huh?? what kind of "special influence" does this Price and/or others have over blogs/post questioning the

information he provides in regards to this consoleOS??? I thought that was part of technical forums.....that more and

more seems to be the case where moderators remove any information questioning something and the group/people

being questioned just get a pass......unreal
[Windows 8 General] MGREX:
I don't know what's the problem it's not like there was a forum crapstorm going on...
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
interesting comparison on one of the video sites...

http://www.mediafire.com/view/3n11bilwec61435/Android-on-x86-chart.jpg
[Windows 8 General] Christopher Price:
Some users began posting personal contact information of family members of mine, cyberstalking basically. I'd like to thank XDA-Developers moderators for addressing that quickly.

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That edited chart makes various inaccuracies. Console OS supports Sandy Bridge and Ivy Bridge, for example, and we will support AMD and NVIDIA based on hardware voting input from backers.
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
hey I don't have a clue about that....I saw this comparison in one of the video sites mentioned

on here about consoleos...so I further checked consoleos and saw a chart that was kinda different

in that no build other than consoleos did anything, then realized that the chart on the video site

said from actual users of the releases they were talking about and couldn't find any consoleos releases

to check against the chart....so thought it was important to people to see what was reality....

and I rechecked the consoleos charts and their is no mention of sandy/ivy bridge and/or AMD/NVIDIA...

please don't shoot the messenger....
[Windows 8 General] Christopher Price:
The original, unedited chart at ConsoleOS.com is correct and accurate. We've talked with every other solution provider and they have not asked us to make any changes. We are supporting several architectures, and we just announced support for new devices like Minnowboard MAX today, as well as portable all-in-ones and other devices.

These edited/phony comparison charts based on the one from ConsoleOS.com are made by anons who don't appear to know what they're talking about.
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
"The original, unedited chart at ConsoleOS.com is correct and accurate"

hey as I said....

"couldn't find any consoleos releases to check against the chart..."

and evidently neither could those who made the comparison chart....

"These edited/phony comparison charts based on the one from ConsoleOS.com are made by anons who don't appear

to know what they're talking about."

I personally verified with android-x86 and android-ia what was stated in their chart and found it accurate,

had a couple issues with google play with android-ia but located the solution by another user...I had 35 years

in the computer industry and can sense a scam when I see one...worked with many over the years who could spew

all the right words to impress people but in the end they all were found out for what they were....

maybe you should look in the mirror, because whatever you say must be correct though there is no release from

you to allow anyone to verify anything you say, maybe in dec. 2014 I guess...

smoke and mirrors only go so far....have a nice day
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
"been working in stealth mode for 18 months to bring you ConsoleOS"

(and still waiting....wasted 18 months on what...nothing to download to verify anything of the claims)

"developers still waiting for the iconsole.tv 2013 app store, consumers still waiting for the iconsole.tv dec. 2013 version

that was suppose to compete with xbox / etc."

interesting that android-x86 has already been show to work on surface pro ...!!!

(http://www.pcbeta.com/viewnews-68403-1.html)

(http://www.winbeta.org/news/watch-surface-pro-runs-android-x86-rather-windows-8-video)

now they have your money......the EXCUSES and full scam begins................LOL

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc/comments
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
let's see now...tomorrow was when they were suppose to deliver their build from the kickstarter fund rasier....

but their telling the backers they are too busy going to shows....and that's important....

good job after 18 months of "working on it"............

"Creator Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. about 9 hours ago

Hi folks, we're working on this one agressively. Unfortunately IDF is this week so much of the team is at the show... trust us, you want us there making the case for Console OS. But, we are working on this and will offer a Plan B for people who are finding Kickstarter emails eaten by hyper-agressive spam filters. Hang in there."

ref: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc/comments
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
update.....

consoleos backers now getting to see what was pointed out here....LOL

from their comments section: (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc/comments)

console os is so focused on adding features, rather than deliver what backers joined for. Why not just deliver what we wanted,

i.e. DV8P functionality, then add features later.

Surveys, additional functionality, steamOS?? These things take up time which surely could be spent delivering what you promised.

When can we expect the Developer release?

Asbjørn, you are right. But it shouldn't be more features = delays. It should be release, then add. Unfortunately, I've seen many

kickstarters offer something, then decide to add features, (feature creep), then more delays, then never actually deliver anything..

or deliver less that was actually promised - when it could be avoided by setting a clear goal and sticking to it.

From what I understand, driver vendors are rescheduled due to kickstarter, amazon, paypal, and credit card providers delaying transfers....

so I guess the:

"Team iConsole has worked for the past 18 months to make sure everything from (optional) multi-touch to Miracast™ works great."

that they stated in June when going to kickstarter for funding, was in their imagination...so what did they do for those

18 months....a lot of talking it appears...and that's is what they continue to do as the backers have found out.....!!!!!

also noted they initially said they had licensed third party drivers...now it's suddenly a problem!!!??? Obviously they hadn't..
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects...he-pc/comments

Mark Lester Cruz about 14 hours ago

I am for the early release of the developer but my real gripe about this project is the lack of proper update on its progress. I mean yes we are getting updates on whats happening but I dont know if its just me but since this project started all I ever saw is a video of OS Console supposedly working on a tablet which is just a demo and a video of it running on a surface pro with no demo. We are already on our 2 months after backing and we havent seen the DR, some of the promised devices are delayed, updates are not consistent and the team seems to be preoccupied doing other things to secure the projects long term future. Dont get me wrong Im all for the long term success of console OS but the team should not lose focus on why they were backed and this is to get console os on their devices and to see it actually working. I find it frustrating that the team is so busy that we did not hear from them for 5 days then suddenly sends one asking its backers to help them do something. We are being asked to vote for this project who hasnt technically shown us anything and i find that unfair.

Again, im all for the future of console os but do not neglect your backers with proper updates. It woudnt hurt to show a video of your progress or a video of the team if you are in some kind tech fair or something. a lot of people would probably appreciate that.

really.... hasnt technically shown us anything.....................their good with words...not much with delivering anything

" frustrating that the team" ..........

the team is most likely one person....who is not technical, but spews all the right words....that's why you backed it!!

see here: http://www.mediafire.com/view/3n11bilwec61435/Android-on-x86-chart.jpg
[Windows 8 General] MGREX:
So any news? has this project changed the world forever or not yet?
[Windows 8 General] Ghuntar WALDMEISTER:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTTkLgfiRwg

Does it seem legit enough ? It's a real question, I'm not a pro...
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
just ask yourself one question...........in all the videos they have put out since, what late 2012....has any of them

ever showed Android dual-booting with another OS?????

Why not????............LOL
[Windows 8 General] MGREX:
So nothing at all? typical kickstarter scam...
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
from android-x86.org, Lollipop on x86, also dual-boots with Windows 8.1

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PG1_2MDYMtk&feature=youtu.be

https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/android-x86/W_toCPwSLvM

another build here:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2evBKvIpdYkNUxFTWVqdjhDdzQ/view
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
so now it's nothing but another gaming machine.......!!!!!!!!!!!! and still not available.....and still never shown booting android anything...

on wait a minute....the iconsole.tv gaming system was never available either was it.......where is that scaled down build they were

going to do anyway?????

Creator Mobile Media Ventures, Inc. about 6 hours ago

Hi everyone, as a special treat, we're adding some last-minute x86-compiled demos using Unreal Engine 4. You'll be the first to go hands-on with some of these demos on Android with an x86 processor.

They are taking a long time to compile (even with our fastest CPUs in the lab), but it's worth the wait. With a Core processor, they really show off the potential of Console OS.

We've got the account system set up, the paperwork done on the CDN, and we're about half way through writing the necessary documentation.
[Windows 8 General] Miker1029:
Shipping Nexct Couple Days!!!!

Can't wait I have a Friend Supposed to be getting it, I WANNA SEE The Switch Between Windows and Android....One Button Switch....:laugh:

Mike
[Windows 8 General] Miker1029:
Bump

Console OS Status Report:

Adam Corbally about 11 hours ago

And the delays begins

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Alexander Hole about 11 hours ago

Team iConsole @Iconsole · 15h 15 hours ago

We had a build server failure. While no data was lost, we unfortunately will have to restart testing and validation from scratch.

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Patrick Tam about 20 hours ago

Last update was October 13th..... It's been over a month, when can we aspect to hear any updates? Will we be getting console os to try next month? (Yes, I am getting impatient.)

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Adam Corbally 1 day ago

Feels like I've been waiting forever...

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Hmmmm, I NEVER Expected THIS!!!!

:p

Source:https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/mmv/console-os-dual-boot-android-remastered-for-the-pc/comments
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
from the comments.............

Sravan Reddy 2 days ago

Oh, found what i was looking for - "We're aiming to ship Console OS Developer Release 1 within about 30 days of the Kickstarter’s conclusion." Let's see...that would have been Sept. 11th according to my math.....

Robert Maxwell 1 day ago

Can anyone post a realistic tentative release date of Console OS for backers of the project?

Mat Oldaker 1 day ago

There is no realistic release date, look at all the dates & timeline that the developers have stated and they have failed to meet every target, I fear that this project is doomed unless they have a PR overhaul, stop the BS excuses and actually deliver something as promised.

"We are shipping well ahead of December (so we aren't late)"

Considering its Nov 30 this isn't "WELL ahead of Dec" and yes I'd say your are late,
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
appears they are finally releasing something today................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

also it looks like...it's android-ia by intel, kitkat release....even wipes your drive if you don't have windows 8/8.1

installed...............LOL

whatever happened to that 18 months of working in "stealth mode" to remaster android for the PC.....?????

oh and their magical chart comparing to others like android-x86.org.....well all those features will be

in the future..................!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[Windows 8 General] Miker1029:
IMO he just took ANDROID X86 from the Users that have worked to get it to work on all these computers, Put his stamp on it, and Mailed It Out....

Mike
[Windows 8 General] Miker1029:
And the reviews start

http://www.winbeta.org/news/initial-impressions-console-os-android-inside-running-surface-pro-2

Looks like contributers are going have head on over to Google groups to get some solutions lol

Mike
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
if you had never checked him out in the begining...he was/is one of the top 100

"bloggers" in the US for years.....they specialize in:

1) write / distribute their own press releases and send to multiple press outlets....

2) use multiple online identities so they can answer/prompt questions from/for

themselves to appear as "all knowing" about whatever subject they are dealing

with.......in other words usually a "sham"

all they have released is a hacked up version of android-ia kitkat which

has been available since April, 2014.......but hey they made $78500 doing it!!
[Windows 8 General] Miker1029:
Honestly, ya I knew a year ago when I starte checking him out. Then everyone pitched in and it became much clearer. I knew he had to have some kind of connections. That is obvious from just a Google search. And basically he's putting this out (Android ia, x86) so hr can't be called a scam artist. But lets keep trying to put it out thrtr. These backers gotta use Google.. They'll stand eventually...

Mike

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I forgot found that a couple months ago think ot was may on the Alexa web site check it out it's funny... Its a word press install called hello world lol
[Windows 8 General] Ghuntar WALDMEISTER:
Hey, it's seems the forum is finally open :

http://forums.consoleos.com/

And it's said there will be a public release in mid-month. That lead us to next week. See you then !

Never lost hope ^^ !
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
what do you expect..?? a one person operation can only do so much...

even thought they worked "in stealth mode" for 18 months in to bring it to

kickstarter....!!! 18 months of blogging and playing games it seems but whatever....
[Windows 8 General] Ghuntar WALDMEISTER:
What do I expect ? Not so much, but I'm just curious to see how it goes, and maybe, we may have something to tinker with in some times.
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
that something has been around a while....no FUD like ConsoleOS....just android that is working

for many....see here...

http://android-x86-forums.hostreo.com/ & http://www.android-x86.org/

http://www.android-x86.org/download
[Windows 8 General] Sonichedgehog360:
And so the shakedown of history's first Android for PC scam begins:

http://www.consoleosripoff.com/
[Windows 8 General] fgdn17:
FYI -

https://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/46lihh/console_os_refunds_are_going_out_now_but_only_to/
[Windows 8 General] kardeef:
The only code I see console did was chane too comments. Could you point out any other change or just a Vid of console booting up iam not asking to see the 100'S of improvements.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fas1h:
Can you tell me if ART really improves performance much or is it just a placebo effect? I installed the aosp rom found here http://xdaforums.com/nexus-s/development/rom-aosp-kitkat-4-4-2-mod-nexus-s-final-t2410844 and on an impulse turned on ART and installed all the apps I need. Sure it takes a bit of an extra space but the device feels much smoother :) is it my conscience playing tricks on me?

And oddly all the apps and games i need are running perfectly fine with ART, infact the games are lagging much much less than before. Still need to see any battery improvement after I am through some full charge/discharge cycles.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mypat:
not placebo but still beta.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] raymondu999:
Hi guys. I've been trying my bluetooth today on my Hermes (a Dopod 838pro, a HERM100 model). Interestingly I cannot send or receive any files, or contacts, even though to/from another PPC. Anyone experiencing this problem? But BT headset no problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Nicky:
Hi, I had same problem until I realised that I hadn't ticked the 'Receive all incoming beams' box in the >'settings'>'connections'>'beam' section.

Did you check this? (sometimes it is easy to overlook the obvious)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] raymondu999:
Isn't that only for IrDA beams though? Or does it also affect BT "beams?" (I've always wondered why Microsoft decided to call something that is in the heart a radio signal a "beam")
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Nicky:
I used to think it only related to IR as well but Beam as far as WM 5.0 is concerned, relates to bluetooth and IR.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] christopherwoods:
Yeah, that confused me too... Similarly, if you tap 'n hold on any file and click Beam File... You can send via Bluetooth from that menu too.

I wish they'd renamed it to something other than Beam File, it gets confusing if you've ever owned more than one WM device :D
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] FabrisTheBest:
Recently I flash the cm10.1 rom all was good but when I wanted retourned to stock rom using nandroid backup it say data cant recored or a thing like that. I try it twice time no success and I decided to flash RUU I begin and the Ruu stop on send rom to device for about 1 hour. My device shut down because the battery and the Ruu isn't comlete. Yesterday, when I plugged it it show the hboot now when i plug it nothing no let no vibration nothing only when I try connect it on computer i can hear the sound when you connect a usb on a computer. I try the unbricking project no success on fedora. Help me please.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
Uh oh...

Uhh... Does your device take a charge?

Do you have access to another battery if not?

If the computer recognizes that something is plugged in... What does the computer think it is?

Does fastboot find a device?

And any other info that could be relevant... No matter how insignificant
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] FabrisTheBest:
Uhh... Does your device take a charge?

No

Do you have access to another battery if not?

No

If the computer recognizes that something is plugged in... What does the computer think it is?

Qualcomm msm and qhusb-

Does fastboot find a device?

No
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
Uhhh... AFAIK if the unbricking project didn't work... Its JTAG or dead...

I would give the unbricking project another go...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] FabrisTheBest:
my computer detect a device when I try the unbrick method even if my device is Unplugged I think is a baterry problem I will charge it using another mothod and try again. After the Ruu I had access to the bootloader but not recovery so The device is maybe noty died but is a possibility
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
If you can get to the bootloader I would try the ruu again... Or try flashing a new recovery and flashing a new ROM...
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] FabrisTheBest:
yes I try but I think he's dead. I don't know if the unbricking project work with live usb, doesn't it ? I use USB for linux because i don't have Cd if he doesn't work I will Install linux on my computer and try again and pray to work.
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] FabrisTheBest:
Thx for your help . The unbricking project work. I did a mistake when i flashed the hboot my version is 1.85gb but i choosed the 1.85ics one now my phone boot with CM 10.2. I will never flash ruu because he is the problem now my problem is the internal storage can't mount when I try mount ii with the CMW recovery he said to me /emmc can't mount. Do you have a salution for this problem ? And now wifi hotspot work :):):):):)
[HTC Vivid, Raider, Velocity] rignfool:
Uhh... Ditch CWM for TWRP...

Then there's tons of threads that people have started... That I have answered how to do this...