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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
Well, I clearly didn't do something right...

I was good after NCG and installing towelroot. Checked with root checker and I had root still.

But I guess the next step confused me. At step 3, it said to load "G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5", but I never saw that file. All I saw was "ALL_VZW_G900VVRU1ANCG_G900VVZW1ANCG_964333_REV00_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar", so I did that.

When I got down to step 5, it says to flash "NI2_stock_kernel.tar.md5". Well, I do have one of those, but I also have "G900VVRU1ANI2_G900VVZW1ANI2_G900VVRU1ANI2_HOME.tar.md5", which is sorta like what I was supposed to have in step 3, only the NI2 version. So I flashed it. And I lost root.

If I had just flashed the NI2_stock_kernel, how would I get back up to NI2 overall? Sorry if I'm being thick, but I'm not matching the files up to the instructions...

Please help...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
Are you still missing the file or do you have everything you need.

All files and instructions are in the OP.

Start over from the beginning. It won't take you very long if you already have all the files.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
I downloaded all the files from the op. But they dont match the instructions. Except the ni2 stock kernel file. But part of my question is, if i flash the ni2 stock kernel file (which is very small) ineont really be on ni2, right? Clearly im still confused....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
Yes. But start over so that you can obtain (or retain) root privileges.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
I can start over. And i had root on ncg but lost it when i went to ni2. But is that because inused the wrong file?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skister77:
OK I did the G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5 then ran towelroot (v3) and then when I booted I tried to do the down/home/power button and it did some system update so I re-did the G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5 and I am back at stock. Where is the 4.4.4 one?

Ran towelroot 3.0 and says rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
You have to flash ni2 to be on ni2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skister77:
I am now at 4.4.4 and just flashed G900VVRU1ANI2_G900VVZW1ANI2_G900VVRU1ANI2_HOME.tar.md5

ran towelroot 3 and says unsupported
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
Yep. Thats right where i ended up. I ran towelroot and was rooted on ncg, but once i installed that full tar,root was gone.

Instructions saybto just install the kernel file though, not the whole tar. But im not getting bow i get to full ni2 if i just flash the kernel file.

I mean pardon my stupidty, but im not getting it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skister77:
no worries for me, I am a newbie at this myself.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
After reading through the thread again, i think i hit on the problem earlier. The issue seemsbto be that there is no ncg kernel to flash.

My understanding is that the kernel is where they patched the exploit that towelroot usesm so the premise is to flash an old kernel, root, then flash the new kernel. What weve vlbeen doing is downgrading the whole system and then reflashing all of ni2 instead of just the kernel, which then wipes out root.

So...am i right?

If so, where do we get the ncg kernel file - its not in the op.

If im wrong, please help....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
I haven't read every line in this thread but , do you have a custom recovery installed?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skister77:
I have the following:

G900VVRU1ANI2_G900VVZW1ANI2_G900VVRU1ANI2_HOME.tar.md5

G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5

G900V_NE9_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5

NI2_stock_kernel.tar.md5

VerizonS5_NCG_Kernel.tar.md5

Not sure what order to do them in. If you need one that I have, I will post.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
The ncg stock kernel is what i am missing. Where did you get that? Was it in the op?

In anycase, this isnwhat i think we need to do...

Get all the way up on ni2

flash the ncg stock kernel

Do the root stuf

flash the ni2 stock kernel

What weve done is flash the entire ni2 tar (2gb or so), which has wiped the system partition and removed root. So if you could post that ncg stock kernel, I'll try it and see if im right.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skister77:
is this the one?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
Yeah, that's the one. I actually grabbed it from the root NE9 thread root NE9 thread

So...the problem is exactly what I said...the G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5 file that's mentioned in the instructions, isn't actually linked in the OP. So skister and I both made the same mistake and instead went right for the full deal.

The bummer is I didn't need to wipe my phone out to do this. Oh well, I'll have it back to where it was in no time.

So, the deal is, if anyone wants to do this, I followed the instructions in the OP, but I didn't install safestrap. Once I got to ni2, I just installed supersu from the market and it worked fine.

My version:

1: Extract Root.zip and Odin309.zip to your PC.

2: Copy BusyBox.apk, tr.apk and UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.14.zip to the extSD of your phone. Do NOT unzip SuperSU just copy it.

3: Run Odin and load G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5 in the AP slot. [Note this is the file that's not in the OP, but you can get it in the previous post, at least until the OP is updated]

4: Power off your phone and enter download mode by holding down the power, home and volume down keys until the download mode screen appears. Then press the volume up to enter download mode and connect the phone to your PC.

5: Flash G900V_NCG_Stock_Kernel.tar.md5 that you have loaded in the AP slot. I got a bunch of android upgrading apps when it booted after this.

6: After the phone reboots you will need to install and run tr.apk, BusyBox.apk . You will get a bunch of force closes during this process but they are normal. Just close them and you will eventualy be able to continue.

7: Shutdown and reboot once more into download mode and flash NI2_stock_kernel.tar.md5 with Odin in the AP slot. Got more android updating apps after this.

8: Installed supersu from the play store.

All good to go.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skister77:
I just tried that one and then towelroot 3 and got unsupported again

I never installed BusyBox, doing that now. uggg
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
Maybe you should try grabbing the one from the ne9 thread that I linked above.

Remember the idea is to just flash the kernel. If the kernel is back to ncg, towelroot should work. Also, make sure and get the latest towelroot (you can grab it from towelroot.com). The one in the OP is old.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Are you doing this part of the step?

"If you have problems rooting with the supplied tr.apk go to towelroot.com download the updated apk, install, run, tap towelroot v3 at the top of the app 3 times and enter the following code 1337 0 1 7380 4 0. This is required sometimes for new phones." If so you might need a different code, with that I can't help other than the link.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
The directions say what order very clearly.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
You need to use the kernel files I included in Root.zip as stated in the OP.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skister77:
You are the man! Good to go! fInally! Thanks a ton to all that helped!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
Aw criminy - after I grabbed the apks I never looked back in that zip. DOH!

If I had realized that, I would have had no issues.

Now just figuring out how to get the latest supersu (only 2.01 is in market) on without safestrap.

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Just to tie up all the loose ends, all you need to do to update is grab the Superuser.apk out of the common folder in supersu zip file. Then, at the end of all this, just get that to your phone and install it. Then when you run supersu, it will update the binaries and you're up to date.

now back to getting my phone back to where it was.

Thanks Misterxtc - I'm rooted and uptodate now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Cool, I'm glad you got it figured out. As for updating SU without safestrap you will be limited to the playstore. If you decide to install safestrap use this one. The ROM slots and boot issue with them are fixed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] doncaruana:
Actually I'm good there too (I updated my previous post). Just installed the superuser.apk out if the supersu zip and I'm all caught up!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Moonboots:
Help!

Hello!

I'm trying to use this to fix an issue on my sister's phone as a factory reset did not solve an issue with the phone app (cannot hear phone conversation on either end unless speakerphone is on). Followed all instructions in the OP. Installed Samsung drivers (Windows 8.1), ran Odin 3.09, downloaded Verizon Retail Galaxy S5 .tar file. Booted to download mode and connected to Odin. It will install 99% of the way and hangs on modem.bin, showing "failed." Now the phone is stuck in download mode.

Here's the info from Odin. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

<ID:0/003> Added!!

<ID:0/003> Odin v.3 engine (ID:3)..

<ID:0/003> File analysis..

<ID:0/003> SetupConnection..

<ID:0/003> Initialzation..

<ID:0/003> Set PIT file..

<ID:0/003> DO NOT TURN OFF TARGET!!

<ID:0/003> Get PIT for mapping..

<ID:0/003> Firmware update start..

<ID:0/003> SingleDownload.

<ID:0/003> aboot.mbn

<ID:0/003> NAND Write Start!!

<ID:0/003> sbl1.mbn

<ID:0/003> rpm.mbn

<ID:0/003> tz.mbn

<ID:0/003> sdi.mbn

<ID:0/003> NON-HLOS.bin

<ID:0/003> boot.img

<ID:0/003> recovery.img

<ID:0/003> system.img.ext4

<ID:0/003> persist.img.ext4

<ID:0/003> modem.bin

<ID:0/003>

<ID:0/003> Complete(Write) operation failed.

<OSM> All threads completed. (succeed 0 / failed 1)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Try flashing the pit file with the NI2 tar file and check Nand Erase All in Odin. After you do that you will need to enter recovery mode and factory data reset for the phone to boot.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] CrazyGamerzPC:
If anyone can give me some support it'd be appreciated.

I wanna downgrade my NI2 firmware to NCG. Would putting my phone into download mode, using Odin and putting stock firmware for NCG into the AP section and clicking start allow me to downgrade?

Just wanna know if it is that straight forward and safe is all....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
If you are doing this to root follow this. But if you want to run NCG factory reset then flash the full tar because you will got lots of errors running NI2 with NCG firmware.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] NSDroider:
Awesome! You saved my arse big time today!! Thanks a million!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
OK so I have a bizarre situation.

Got new phone, rooted and installed SS.

DL NI2.tar to ODIN to old phone to send back to verizon (camera fail issue and overheating)

defrosted all frozen apps

ODIN'ed to NI2, Odin says passed

nothing happened on the phone, its the same as it was before I tried ODIN. (yes, it was plugged in)

I factory reset the phone under settings...

I'd still like to ODIN back to stock (to make sure TR and SS are gone)......any advice?

TIA

Heather
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
make sure you use the full odin tar and not just the firmware tar.. it sounds like you mightve just flashed the kernel or modem and not the full ni2 odin tar.. it should be over 1.2gb or more
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
You did download the NCG files to run back to as well right? Some have had success with using TR v3 and using the chain, but if it's possible I would say flash back to NCG, root, flash forward, flash old kernel, re-root, then flash new kernel again..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] admiral70:
I know I will get grief but after 20 pages of reading I need one simple question answered.

I want to take my VZW Samsung Galaxy S5 back to stock and allow OTA do updating. Do I just take the NCG Files Verizon S5 Retail Tar NCG baseband from OP after Tools and forget the others?

I am handing the phone down the family chain and want it stock and will not be needing to root or ROM anymore.

Thanks and sorry if it is is post #### and I just did not see it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
Just flash this https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712473760 in odin. Follow the instructions in the op. That's the latest update so no need to ota after flashing that.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] admiral70:
That is odd, it said passed but did not wipe the phone back to stock. Appeared it updated things but says unlocked and still loads old ROM. Wondering if I should go back to the first Full tar file?

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
Hmm try this https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712474060
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] admiral70:
Now that I look at it I guess it did install correctly. It did not wipe all data like I thought it would and bring me to the setup screen. Have you seen that before?

Thanks for responding.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
Well you can wipe data on your own. Go into your phone settings and select about phone at the bottom and make sure it says you're on N12. You can get the root checker app from the play store and run it to make sure you're unrooted. If everything went good that should confirm it.

Edit... On your question about have i seen that before "yes" like i said you wipe data on your own if you want. Flashing the file in odin doesn't do it for you.

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Everything ok? Im sure it is i think you just got confused when the phone looked the same lol... Took me a few minutes to realize what was happening too.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] admiral70:
I was surprised when it looked the same and had same apps. As always the community (Savage) was right and it did take it back and removed root. I will let her (wife) run it for a few days to see if she has any problems. If she does I will manually wipe and go from there otherwise thank you for your help. I always root and ROM my phones but then take them back to stock before handing down to others.

Again, thank you for your help and thank you for this post.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
Is this 4.4.2 or 4.4.4? Sorry if I'm asking an obvious question. I don't own the device and I don't know your firmwares. Just trying to help a friend. Thanks guys.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
It's for both. It just matters what you're trying to accomplish.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
Well he flashed a 4.4.2 rom over his 4.4.4 bootloader and now he's bootlooping. So, I'm trying to get him back at least to stock. Plus he's new to this whole thing. gotta watch these kids now a days. They could brick a phone in a jiffy. LOL
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
You could flash a 4.4.4 ROM and it will go back to normal. If you want a 4.4.2 ROM flash the NCG tar or firmware first.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
Thanks kindly, sir. [MENTION=6246842]ndd392000[/MENTION] get over here and read. Have these nice gents help you out. I'm sure it's not hard to return your phone running if you follow the steps of this thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
Also he needs to make a backup if he doesn't have one. He could of restored it and been good to try it again the right way. If he's not sure always ask first it can save headaches lol. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Also if it's Alliance ROM you are trying to run you will need to flash the NE9 firmware after you are rooted and have safestrap installed. Make sure you have the correct firmware for whatever ROM you choose. If you want to go to a NI2 ROM all you need to do is flash the NI2 firmware only file. Most of the ROMs have a link to the corresponding firmware and good instructions on what you need yo do.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
Thank you very much fellas. He's gone and never replied. Lol. Guess he figured it out. I hope.

I love it when someone asks for your help then when you actually start helping them, they just ignore the shizz out of you. Lmao
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] brucejg:
I purchased this phone Saturday and rooted it that evening using the instructions found here:

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/safely-upgrade-root-4-4-4-nha-volte-t2879348

There's a problem with the battery and i need to unroot it (so Verizon will take it back). I'm confused as to which tar I should use as there are several listed - I want to go to standard Verizon retail OS.

Many thanks in advance.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
You can use this one https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23622183712473760 after its done you can manually wipe the data in the phone settings since you're giving it back to verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] brucejg:
Thanks for the speedy reply - downloading it now.

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Ok, the phone is unrooted. However, when it boots up, the splash screen still says "Custom" and the Verizon folks will see that. How can i get the stock splash screen?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Do a factory data reset from the settings menu too. The custom splash will go away after a reboot.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] brucejg:
All is good - thanks for the help
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
This happened to me last week. I Odin'd back to stock and the phone was not wiped. All I did was wipe the phone from factory settings. I had never seen this before either. Glad you got it all figured out.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
This happens because most of the tar files released by Samsung do not wipe data. The only one so far that dose this is the NCG one. All the others are labeled Home in the file name and they don't wipe data. Why they did this I do not know but it's kind defeats the purpose of wanting to start fresh.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
It was the same when i had my moto droidx. If we screwed up or just wanted to start fresh we had to SBF(install original factory files) using rsdlite to take us back to stock. We always had to manually wipe data before or after we did the SBF.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
Also make sure to uninstall Safestrap using the Safestrap app if you installed it, before wiping anything.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Updated the OP with the NK2 full tar for those who want it. I'll get the modem and firmware posted a bit later.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 5ft24:
Can we upgrade from NI2 to NK2 without losing root?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hollywood67:
Yes

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You can maintain root
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
This is the easiest way to upgrade to NK2 from NI2.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gatorhater73:
Ok, so I have a noob question... if I'm on a G900V dev edition and I flash an NK2 ROM with the NK2 stock kernel will I lose my unlocked bootloader? I can't find any NK2 custom kernels yet
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Never flash the stock kernel on your Dev Edition, it will lock the BL. You will need one like this. I'm not sure how it will run on NK2 but it won't hurt to try. Take a look at this thread before you do anything.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] g_ding84:
You should be able to run KT's TW based kernel (the latest one) as there should be no big difference between NI2 and NK2. (Same bootclass path / same 4.4.4 base)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=56038892

I was running the NK2 firmware on an NI2 based ROM.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skorasaurus:
Hi,

I searched the thread but I just want to make sure that I understood earlier discussions:

I'm on NI2 firmware with what I presume is also a NI2 rom (stock) that I rooted and installed in October following your directions. I do NOT have safestrap installed.

If I want to upgrade to the NK2 (firmware, kernel, and rom), I would just need to follow Step 7 at HOW TO ROOT, and flash the NK2 Kernel Only file?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
You can download and Odin the full NK2 tar and download the RootS5.zip. It has all the files you need to root including the NK2 kernel. It's the same process as before but in the end you will flash the NK2 kernel in the end step. Or just install busybox and safestrap then flash the stock or custom ROM in my sig. I have clear directions in both threads. Just be sure to flash the NK2 kernel as well. To make things easier download the RootS5.zip. It has all the kernels and tools needed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
I'm going to apologize in advance for this question, I read all 34 pages in this post and I am still confused.

My replacement phone from Verizon will be delivered today. I know how to Odin back to stock to send it back.

My question is, if the new phone already has nk2 on it.....how do I root it? If it has NI2, I know how to downgrade and flash the ncg kernel, then run TR, flash ni2....etc

Is it the same process for the nk2?

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Believe so... From my understanding, they have not locked back flashing, so you should be able to flash back to NCG kernel, root, and flash NK2 after... Could be wrong.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
You are correct.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Holy Crap! haha thanks XTC
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
So do I have to extract the nk2 kernel? Or just flash in Odin as is?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
I believe all you would need to do is to download the NCG Tar to flash back to, and then download the NK2 files from the bottom of the FIRST POST here. I see there is firmware there, but since you're coming down to NCG to root, and going back up, I wouldn't think that would effect the firmware, could be wrong, so I would think all you would need is the Stock Tar and Kernel for NK2 to bring you back.

[MENTION=5601139]Misterxtc[/MENTION] sound right again?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
All you need to do is follow the How to Root instructions in the OP. I can't explain it any more clear than that. All the files and instructions needed are in the RootS5.zip.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Pyeol:
I didn't know about step 6. I feel if that step was included in the OP, people would start asking a lot less questions.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
[MENTION=5037721]Pyeol[/MENTION]

It is mentioned in the OP instructions. You just weren't reading carefully.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Pyeol:
Sh*t.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] smaut3:
Vz S5 Dev Ed.

Thank you for posting these.

I'm relatively new to Samsung processes. While I develop for Android applications, I've not done flashing process. If Kies would have updated a Dev Ed I would not be in this position. I have a Vz S5 Dev Ed. (I expected Samsung to have better support for a dev program than they have.) A colleague recommended that I join here and there is a lot of information but I'm unable to find something that would indicate what files in a set like this are safe to flash for a Dev. Ed. and what order to perform the operations in. So far I've been able to configure TWRP and root via TWRP but I'm unable to find a process to update from NGC to NK2 safely on my type of device. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Rom. 5:8
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Go here first and make a back up of your phone and avoid a bootloader lock in case something goes wrong. After that you can install my NK2 stock ROM or my custom NK2 ROM just be sure to flash the NK2 Dev Edition Firmware and not the retail one. Flash the ROM with TWRP and then flash the firmware with Odin.