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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
Should I root and/or post to this thread?

I hope this post un-clutters this thread more than the space it takes:

I have (painfully) read through all 200+ pages and I am amazed at some of the questions that are asked. It is not just because some people don't read the thread before asking the questions. More importantly, the basic level of some of these questions just shows the people who post them do not know the first things about rooting and their phones. So here is a test for you to answer the question "Should I root and/or post to this thread?"

1- What is a Nandroid backup?

2- Can you use adb?

3- What is the difference between a custom and a stock recovery?

4- What is the difference between /system/app and /data/app?

5- What is a bootloader?

And the most important question:

6- Have you read the thread or at least searched through it before asking a question?

If you cannot answer at least 5 of these questions to your own satisfaction, do yourself a favor and don't root, and do everyone else a favor and don't crowd this forum by posting. I am in no way an expert in android but I am an expert in not breaking my system by doing things I don't know much about (having learned it the hard way) and I want to pass on this experience to you. If you cannot answer these questions and still insist on rooting there is a high chance that you will later break something in your system (which will be undefended against you after rooting) and live to regret it.

The best you can do if you don't know enough is to disable security updates on your device for now so Verizon and AT&T and whoever else would not patch this exploit in your system. Then go ahead and spend a few days reading about this stuff and asking questions in the many other forums available to you on XDA and ONLY then come back here and give it a try. Also, if you just want to post and say how great Geohot is (which everyone is aware of) a better token would be to push the thanks button next to his name and even better is to donate $$ to his cause.

You hate me now for this post but you will thank me later.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Ziken:
oh man, thanks for that. and here, i thought i was screwed without another way to install SuperSU without having to flash the file...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hawkeye9:
Just gained root with the towelroot approach on my Verizon Note 3 - SM-N900V. Thanks, geohot! Donation on the way.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JaviMotta98:
Yeah! It works on my friend's Nexus 5 with the lastest firmware version! THANKS! :victory:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] harrisnehal:
Confirmed working on Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-I9506 running latest 4.3 without trip knox.

Thanks in million dear☺
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
It's always nice to support developers & I would love to support him. Does this mean getting a "pro" version of some sort that costs a few bucks? Or are you suggesting just to "follow him" on Google+. Please send me anything you have to do this cause I googled Chainfire and am having trouble finding any way to "find" him. Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ritholtz:
Thanks UnixSlayer. I am going to root my att s5. This root is going to stay even with att updates right?

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] primamortalia:
confirmed working on RAZR M XT907 running android kitkat 4.4.2 :good:

install towelroot then supersu 1.99r5

thanks dev :angel: for your hardwork
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] maharajah12:
Mate No offense, this is like a school and here we need both student and teacher and share our knowledge to each other, learned persons are here so are we all to learn what we could not have without visiting this site.:cool:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
Will NOT trip Knox

To all the people posting concerns about Knox (there are tons of you) TowelRoot WILL NOT TRIP KNOX.

I've turned my Galaxy S4 off/on probably 15-20 times since successfully using TowelRoot Sunday & getting root and everything's ok :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ~wolverine~:
http://www.chainfire.eu/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gridflash:
Geohot is now $20 richer... Damn fine work
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] UnixSlayer:
You should turn off, or freeze Security Policy Updates. AT&T already unrooted my phone yesterday using Geohot's apk. I had to reinstall it again. This time I turned off Security Policy Updates. Still rooted....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PepNYC:
Sorry to revisit this if it has already been addressed but I got to post 20 and couldn't wait any longer so I jumped to the end of the thread to ask... Will this work on an AT&T GS4 SGH-I337 with 4.4.2 and Baseband I337UCUFNC1?

Again, I apologize if I'm being redundant but I really really want to root this thing.

Thanks in advance.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cod3L1ne:
Supersu trips knox? Since when

Sent from rooted n900a Beast
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] maharajah12:
you can try no harm trying wont trigger knox just for trying. its an APK file.

if i helped you please PRESS THANKS button.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
Thanks :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cod3L1ne:
I have the same device and service provider as you and I was at least 50 in line of being rooted upon release and att did no such thing my way. Also the files everyone else is talking about such as fwupdate and SMD are already removed on att note 3 after root. Not to seem skeptical but I'm confused on this one.

Sent from rooted n900a Beast
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sniper8752:
I installed supersu by chainfire, and then installed tr. It rebooted my phone, and it is installed, but my phone is not rooted. i have the sg4. I am running 4.4.2.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] UnixSlayer:
This will NOT TRIP KNOX. This apk finds an exploit in the kernel that disables Knox only in the operating system. Which allows you to install the new Supersu 1.99r4 or r5.... It does not affect Knox in the Bios.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gridflash:
Chainfire's root for tmobile trips knox.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] taproot:
towelroot isn't working for my Verizon S4 running MK2 stock rom.

After making it rain and rebooting root checker says no root access, safestrap says no root access.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cubfan99:
Absolute nonsense. Everyone starts somewhere. If you don't want to answer questions, then don't.

-- Sent from my AT&T GS5 using Tapatalk VIP
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] antmarching.41:
how do I undo this rooting process?

Not that I'm not appreciative but I didn't know an app I use all the time would no longer work on a rooted device... How do I undo this root process? Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] UnixSlayer:
Note.... my Security Policy Updates is turned off....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] maharajah12:
open super su go to setting you will find the option to unroot your device.

if i helped you please PRESS THANKS button.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cod3L1ne:
Lol just realized your on s5 so yes you have to .Bak sdm.apk and fwupdate

Sent from rooted n900a Beast
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tcourb:
i did root my s5 2 days ago but my battery life gets shorter as before. anyone have the same barrtey life issue?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] UnixSlayer:
Nope.... i just froze it in TITANIUM backup..... ; )
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zioax14:
Where can I download Samsung kernel?

Inviato dal mio SM-N9005 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dtowngs4g:
This worked for my stock I337 NC1 4.4.2!! Thank you! I've been wanting this bloat off of my phone but was scared to death of bring it. Thank you so much! ur a genius!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gridflash:
I have a tmobile update that I haven't installed from a few days ago.

Should I root before or after I install the update?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
I would try the root before installing the update. Every update is prone to close some exploit, including this one. By the way, some people mentioned in the thread that installing SU has tripped their TMOBILE knox. While I cannot verify that myself, if you care about your knox flag research this a little before you do anything.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aholeinthewor1d:
why are you on MK2 (4.3) ?? I took the OTA update (NC5) on my s4 on Sunday and then rooted just fine with towelroot
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] adie1234:
Not workin on s4 unlocked uk
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsanity:
SuperSU v1.99r4 Will not install

I downloaded the v1.99r4. Power off phone and booted into stock recovery and tried to install the SuperSU updated.zip and it failed Any answers?​
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] The_Stanz:
don't install the entire zip, just extract it, go to the common folder and install the APK.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] liomajor:
Like a few sites before, extract it, take the files, install it the usual way.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] gridflash:
That's why I'm asking questions. Most tmobile users are reporting success. But I want to know if it's update dependent.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PepNYC:
CONFIRMED: ROOT WORKING ON AT&T GS4 SGH-I337 with 4.4.2 and Baseband I337UCUFNC1

This is the bast damn party I've ever been to! Well, the best party without beer anyway. :)

Thanks Geo. Donation on the way.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aerodigital:
i9505XXABMG3

I have this build, and it is impossible to upgrade my ROM as it is early dev version and uses Knox A, which is signed with a certificate that no longer exists. This means any Odin-based roots or installs won't work. How can I tell if this exploit is working? Is there a way to make the app not reboot the device so I can get a root shell to manually remove the knox apps. They get in the way any prevent any OS level root from working. I need to somehow make these apps crash:

com.sec.knox.containeragent

com.sec.knox.seandroid

com.sec.knox.store

the SU binary isn't being injected because of these, otherwise I believe the root would work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsanity:
Thanks. I should of knew that.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
So after towelroot apk reboots your system and you are back on, does rootcheck say you are rooted, and you only want to inject SU?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aerodigital:
Knox

It reboots and knox notification comes up saying it blocked activity. It is almost like I need to leverage the exploit and right before I reboot, remove the knox apk files, so they don't catch anything. I think I got motochopper to get an su binary installed once so superuser would ask me to update it. but from what it looks like the su binary is no longer there thanks to Knox agent.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
So after the reboot and getting the knox message, if you run su in Android Terminal Emulator it doesn't wrok?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bazzarooney:
Note 2 N7100

This does not work on the note 2 (NDE3 KK4.4.2 Kernel 30.31-1552758) I tried reinstalling SU after from both play store and chainfire's download, SU binary missing.

Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks GeoHot, you made life with an iphone and PS3 bearable :).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aerodigital:
Terminal

Exactly, the knox notification comes up saying it blocked it. I can't even figure out a way to get past knox agent, it blocks everything.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] drewfs7270:
Works on AT&T LG g2 d80020u. First time I downloaded I got text file, then I change browser and got the apk. Once I installed it was a piece of cake. Thanks so much. Great stuff.

Double tap doesn't work, however.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bjames23:
Drastically shorter battery life

Yes I realized this as well. Drastically. I even debloated to see if that would help. Anyway to fix this?

Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] najoor:
Is there a delay between when the phone comes to life and when the knox message appears? Becuase if there is, you may be able to use the few interim seconds and disable knox through adb. It's worth trying.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zelenko:
Give us what version of firmware you have. Ajde druze budi drug :))

Edit:

Model: SM-N9005

Model name: GALAXY Note 3 LTE

Country: Bosnia and Herzegovina (BH TELECOM)

Version: Android 4.4.2

Changelist: 1168347

Build date: Mon, 14 Apr 2014 08:38:48 +0000

Product Code: BHT

PDA: N9005XXUEND3

CSC: N9005BHTENE2

MODEM: N9005XXUENC2

This is your FW ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsanity:
Is there way to get rid of that custom unlock from boot up?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Has anyone tried using Wanam to change the SElinux to permissive?

EDIT: Doesn't work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jonboyuk:
Note 3 - UK varient with EE. KitKat installed. Works! Knox 0x0! AMAZING THANK YOU!

Will this work on my Note 10.1 2014 I wonder...?

Also, I cannot get the binaries to install from SuperSU. I don't get a KNOX message either, I have frozen all 5 KNOX components with Titanium BU.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DroidForLife33:
This is will work for you. No more custom screen.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s2/orig-development/2014-01-15-triangleaway-v3-26-t1494114

Note3,Nexus7Flo,SGS4,Tab2-7,Bionic,PrimeTF201,Droid3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rolling56:
Adam Outler was saying in a post somewhere here on XDA or on Twitter as i don't recall to install SuperSU before running the towelroot .apk Not sure if that would help or not.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] snppr22:
Had anyone tried changing the font with Rom Toolbox? Was everything kosher?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsanity:
Seen a lot of reviews that Triangle Away doesn't work on the VZW Note 3.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sniper8752:
anybody have any idea why it doesn't work?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aerodigital:
Possible

I believe so. When you hold the home button down while booting, it runs a safe mode, to bad this doesn't change the status of knox.

I am currently building drozer with these permissions so i can launch these activities, they are exported. this might make some hidden menus pop up on my screen:

Particularly interested in the mode changers and the settings. I can push android.intent.action.MAIN to all of them first and see what they do

Package: com.sec.knox.containeragent

com.sec.knox.containeragent.lock.password.PasswordChangeActivityFromEAS

Permission: com.sec.knox.containeragent.USE_CONTAINERAGENT

com.sec.knox.containeragent.modechanger.ModeChangerRebootingActivity

Permission: com.sec.knox.containeragent.USE_KNOX_UI

com.sec.knox.containeragent.settings.SettingsMainActivity

Permission: com.sec.knox.containeragent.USE_KNOX_UI

com.sec.knox.containeragent.DFT.CurrentDataState

Permission: com.sec.knox.containeragent.USE_KNOX_UI

com.sec.knox.containeragent.lock.password.ApplicationPasswordActivity

Permission: com.sec.knox.containeragent.USE_CONTAINERAGENT
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Secondlaw:
Thank You!

I've been waiting a while for this. VZW S5.

Donated the amount promised prior to even attempting. Figured even if it didn't work for me, there are a lot of happy people so congrats to a job well done!

Rooted my VZW S5 with no issue. Used the beta SuperSU with no issue!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] maharajah12:
you can try uninstall super su then root it, install super su again and update it from bellow.

download from here: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu

unzip it on your desktop copy into you phone and look in to the folder called "COMMON" super su is in there click and you are done.

if i helped you please PRESS THANKS button.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] The_Stanz:
mine also went away on its own after a couple of reboots ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cod3L1ne:
Can't you just download and odin flash stock ROM from Sammy mobile?

Sent from rooted n900a Beast
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aerodigital:
I will also give that a shot, the problem I am seeing here is the su does not exist in /system/bin so i can't get su access on boot.. does the towelroot exploit get root before reboot or as the result of a reboot. If it is the ladder, then I imagine KNOX comes in early and remounts /system as RO before anything else gets to it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cod3L1ne:
My wife's s5 is doing the same

Sent from rooted n900a Beast
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sniper8752:
This didn't work. It still shows that it is not rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] maharajah12:
did you check the option under setting/general/ Security/ unknown sources need ticked and verify apps unticked.

if i helped you please PRESS THANKS button.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
I use ifont and hifont to change the font, even without root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aerodigital:
I could if I could find any KNOX A (0x32) roms. It seems that the cert for this has been destroyed or not used since the first prototypes were in development. This phone was given to me after we helped them develop the MDM capabilities, it is a prototype. I want to hack the bootloader somehow to make it the Play version, that would be awesome.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] razno:
Ok, i played around and now my status is knox 0x0, but rom custom.

Is there any way to return to offical?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DelonHolmes:
Seems like just a root the more i read the OP

I don't think he will just put out a root and have it brick phones without a way to restore

also Kies restore Software if you run into problems
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Jraider44:
I'm not sure how the GS5 guys do it, but over on the GS4 side we just grab the Odin files and flash to put everything back to stock.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Odin or Keis back to stock will take care of that. Odin with a stock tar file is your best bet if you need to warranty. Keis will close the root vulnerability and Odin with the NCG (verizon) tar will keep it open..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
the talk in the FreeNode chat is that it's just root. [MENTION=3280118]geohot[/MENTION] doesn't want to mess with the bootloader stuff.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DelonHolmes:
Yeah i made that mistake with my SIII, took the 4.3 restore and locked the bootloader, i was pissed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Esso1001:
Sweet
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kenkamm:
I guess I have some searching to do. I don't know if all those tools and files are currently available for the s5.

---------- Post added at 10:38 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:36 AM ----------

Also does anyone know why geohot chose the name towelroot? Sounds hilarious at first glance, but I wonder if there is a technical reason for that name. I doubt it's because he had to towel himself off after 4 days of hacking. :eek:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dallasnights:
sorry for my ignorance, been a iPhone user for a long time, first time Galaxy user, can you tell me where and how to root my Galaxy s5 for TMO

Thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thatpimp007:
Aren't TMO versions rootable??? Should check out the T-Mobile Threads.

Not to be a debbie downer though, but what's the over under on people actually ponying up the bounty????
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Haven't heard anything about why.. Perhaps just the amusement factor of stripping down the corporate companies to just a towel covering their stuff. LOL
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
No worries :) we were all newbies at one point. there is a Samsung galaxy s5 forum for tmobile on XDA as well. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] warriorpluto:
Go to the T-Mobile gs5 forums on here. Type it in at the find my.phone box on the top right of this website
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] slimc84:
This is the easiest and fastest way to root.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2696537
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
The tools are available, Odin 3.09 and the NC2 tar link is around but I don't have a link yet. I downloaded it a while back and have it on my drive. A new thread should probably be started for this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dubwoofer:
Awesome, can't wait to try it out!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jimbohurt:
AHHHHH!!!!

Best day ever. Well that and the day my daughter was born. Lol jk. This is better. Haha

I'm a nexus user, but got promoted in work to a new position where a phone is provided. Enjoying my s5 but when it comes to removing bloat and what not with just root (im used to having an unlocked bootloader and just picking what gapps to flash) I hope there is some classy guys ready to make some how-to threads!! :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
I believe that [MENTION=3280118]geohot[/MENTION] 's version of rooting is a one click install from the website...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] aholeinthewor1d:
Actually returned my s5 to get unlimited back..but just found a friend with a brand new one that's gonna trade for my s4 and $100. Perfect timing. If only [MENTION=3280118]geohot[/MENTION] would take whatever's shown at the black hat thing and unlock our boot loader.

---------- Post added at 04:25 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:23 PM ----------

So will this be like the s4 meaning we need safestrap? Only ask because I remember in the droid x days we had a locked boot loader but still had a regular custom recovery
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raynan:
I'm with you on that boat
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DelonHolmes:
Im trying everything to keep myself occupied until 1pm
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Confucious:
Really not sure why I am impressed.

I can hold my own with most people but young Mr Hotz does make me feel inferior.

Nice to see him back earning pocket money.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DroidForLife33:
I'm running the leaked kk build and it works fine for me.

Note3,Nexus7Flo,SGS4,Tab2-7,Bionic,PrimeTF201,Droid3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rgensel:
Verizon HTC One M7 sense 6

Is this going to support the HTC One M7 on Verizon phones running sense 6?

It was my understanding that it would and that is why jcase was holding out on his new method for now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] deepgrass:
I can also confirm that, if you have trouble root the S4 I9505.

Make sure you are on firmware I9505XXUGNE5..

It will work, and what's more? Knox stays 0x0.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sniper8752:
The verify apps was checked. I unchecked it, and did it again. It still does not seem to have rooted it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alenmahovic:
Jeste drug, to je verzija softvera na uređaju. :) CORRECT!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jonboyuk:
Do we think this might work on the Note 10.1 2014?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
+1 to aholeintheworld's reply. I just got my S4 5/3 (new @ verizon) and it got an OTA while they were doing the paperwork.

I discovered shortly that this OTA was to NC5. I did towelroot to my S4 Sunday (on NC5) and it worked perfectly :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bdubble:
sprint note 2?

Sprint note 2 not invited?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Longcat14:
It looks like it'll work for you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
If I had a dollar for every stupid question on this thread I could pay Geohot the whole bounty myself..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cmh714:
Hell, you'ld both be very rich, quite unreal
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BluBBa:
apparently only on the Snapdragon version.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ymmelo:
This method is fantastic and really works on my S5 SM-G900M! Awesome!

I just got one problem, my apk S Health always get Force Closed. Do you guys know how to fix it?

It's amazing... i'am rooted with Knox 0x0!

:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Lane W.:
I had this "problem" too. As posted by a few others (100's of posts ago) I simply uninstalled SU > Reboot phone > Extract apk to browser (I used Dolphin cause chrome goes right to play store & you

do not want the play store version

> reinstall SU > Rebooted again (cause I just felt like it) and...........Bang! SU is good to go! Screenshot is below for your viewing pleasure :p

During this 2nd install is when Disable Knox appeared (it didn't upon my 1st SU install) - select to disable it and the knox concerns are gone
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] keyrocerebro007:
Great app :good: ............................. Hope you can find a solution for resetting the Knox counter trip :fingers-crossed: :fingers-crossed:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Equal1zer:
didn't work on note 2 7100 4.4.2 build number N7100XXUFND4 kernel version 3.0.31 - 1280411 Apr 18 2014