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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] desmondm:
i have the i-mate jasjam. and had the same problems with allingment. . now i changed the rom with orange and no problems since ... It is the software . OR just re-install the rom again
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sergiopi:
The WORST part is that this is another signal that there isn't any OFFICIAL FIX from HTC for HERMES screen aligment issue.

Some folks still believe is a ROM problem, sorry to say is a well known hardare issue, still not officially (in the HTC'S FAQ) admitted because... IT ISN'T STILL SOLVED!

Just bad case materials used, ord bad suppliers, or bad engineering... but appear mostly when you put the phone in your pocket, without any hard cover, squeezing the screen frame.

Large pant's pockets is the best HERMES screen aligment issue solution, to sell it and to buy a Universal is a good solution too, ;-)

FIX are:

1) http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1036471&postcount=150 so called WESBAR Fix with also the Sectorlord update http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1043205&postcount=190

2) I inserted a small piece of a business card between the right side of the frame and the screen, at 1/3 of the frame. In the last 20 days i've been SA Free...

3) Quickly align screen in any application : Press and hold "d-pad" button and press "Messaging" button
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yrreP:
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Isn't the official fix to send the device in for warranty repair?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ArbadZ:
Horrible Jasjam

Guys I've got the Jasjam since Aug, it worked perfectly for 2 weeks then the fun has started, screen alignment needed every while but its inconsistent sometimes its needed every 5minutes other times its needed every week or so.

It hangs most often and loses the network suddenly then it comes back, this is inflating my voice mail with messages from people who're not able to reach me.

Just to give the complete picture I'm using the device as standard “not a single program installed”.

Regards

ZA
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] frustin:
ArdbadZ> do you keep your phone in your trousor/pants pocket? I do and i am wondering if the pressure is moving the screen, up and down, and causing the misalignment.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ArbadZ:
Some times I do keep it in my pocket but most of the times not.

This machine is the best ever if works properly otherwise it’s a piece of crap.

I'm just waiting for the next ROM update if no improvement then I will sell it and never buy i-mate as I had extremely bad experience with their monster Jasjar too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sergiopi:
No, isn't if you just have it back and after some days-months you will have the same issue.

"Then, after having it repaired (6 weeks) I have the unit back and screen alignment problems have appeared."

You call THIS repair? Welcome on earth!

Warranty Repair is a word used when you have something broken and after REPAIR is as brand new.

I "repaired" my TyTN putting a small piece of paper, but isn't a new phone...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] srmz:
At least 2 people on this thread have reported so far that HT642 has had no screen alignment problems. Can we safely assume that for S/N HT642XXX and above the problem has been corrected by HTC.

It will be a great benefit for all monitoring this thread if people who have serial number HT642 and above kindly speak whether or not you have seen screen alignment problems with your units.

Thanks and Regards
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] walshieau:
I have a HT642 in Australia and havent encountered the Allignment issues you all speak about...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] frustin:
how long have you had it? if it hasnt been a month then i wouldnt speak to soon.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pob:
Sent it back to Voda on the 12th, said it would be ready for the 17th, but still no text or email confirming its ready. I dont want to go all the way to Voda, and find out its not ready. Not impressed with their service, thank god i'm not with them for my contract!

Edit: my mum was in town, and rang my bro up and passed it onto a voda guy in store, and he said its not back yet, its gone back to HTC rather than just voda repair. nice of them to tell us! :-/ Anywho, they're gonna ring back, and tell us more info of a date for pick up.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pob:
i've had the keypress problem too, wasnt sure if it was just me typing too fast or what. hopefully that will have been fixed too when it comes back. but if not, i dont know if i can be bothered to wait around two weeks again to get it fixed. so i may just have to make do.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] himself_himself:
I had SA issues immediately after putting on a screen protector with a credit card-like applicator. I actually slipped the card between the screen and the bezel on both left and right sides to ensure the screen protector was on perfectly on the edges and corners. I think I actually fixed the problem now just by pushing back the side edge bezels back down, feeling it adhere back to the screen. So far I haven't had any problems now.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pob:
Got a replacement, its still a 626 s/n but keyboards working fine. and screens been fine, though i have only had it an hour.

I havent got a screen protector anymore!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ISnowmanI:
I have SA problems

SN: HT632xxxx

Imate JasJam.

November 10, 2006

I experienced the SA problem after a week from buying the handset. But I am living with it as it only shifts very little and not on a regular basis. I think I will go for the business card solution but that's only in case I am fed up with the problem.

I read an article here about a very useful shortcut for opening the Alignment Screen, by holding the D-PAD button and pressing the messaging button at the same time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jezi:
imate Jasjam

no keyboard or SA problems, HSDPA also enabled!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jezi:
imate Jasjam

forgot to include:

HT630

ROM 1.20.305.3

EXT ROM 1.20.305.104

DATE 07/21/06

RADIO 1.07.03.10

Got mine on 11/14/06 on ebay(seller-johnnybarakat) for $790 shipping included. Never used the cheap leather case. I bought the aluminum case w/ screen protection attached to the case ahead of time, so even if I put it in my pocket, the screen won"t get squished because I had that problem with my Palm device before. The Palm didn't have that problem until I started putting it in my shirt pocket and I dont't want the same thing happening to my Jasjam.

Have about 7 programs added to it already and was pleased about the HSDPA already enabled. However, I only got it for a week. If I don't go back to this forum, that means, I am still doing ok w/ my Jasjam.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jsp_m:
isn't it time to unstick this poll..it's overcomed now..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sectorlord:
I just wondering why the ratio of the SA issue is not IMPROVING...!!!

it might means that most people does not report thier perfectly working unit ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] smads:
Just took delivery of of a HT644 Vario II and all appears well.

Finger crossed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pob:
ARGH!

My replacement has it!

Its going back today then!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sectorlord:
most probably ..you got a refurbised replacement !!! demand a new SN unit !!!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pob:
exactly! thats what i thought, specially as the call button doesnt glow, but the end call button does! And still has call durations on!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pob:
Well i took a copy of a few of the many many pages of the SA issue thread from here, and took my 2nd v1605 in, and what they've done is they've ordered a new one, to see if the s/n is HT636 or there abouts, if so i'd get that, or see what they can do with HTC about getting a new one, not a refurbished one. So i'm happy with that!

However my 3rd one will, unfourtunately, be my last one IF anything were to go wrong. because, as good as the device is, theres only so much you can take. Well, if you are allowed to change handsets. But lets hope my 3rd one doesnt come to this! I still like wm5 and htc, so i havent fallen out with them yet!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] CraigP17:
no problems, i have latest 641xxx batch. problem fixed.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jayteecie:
htc642xxx sn here. no problems so far for 2weeks already.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MCEITLIN:
Alignment Issues

I upgraded from a Universal to a Dopod 838Pro. So far almost 4 weeks have gone by and no sign of alignment probs! Could this have something to do with the ROM that comes installed in the device
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] MikeChannon:
The alignment issue is established as a hardware one and not related to ROM.

Mike
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] akm_070:
VODAFONE VPA COMPACT III (v1605) (UK)

SN: HT626xxxx

Heavy screen alignment problems
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] rassah:
Had allignment issues frequently when I first bought this thing in August. Used the business card trick, and so far 6 weeks without allignment issues. Yay.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] akash_84:
My 636 had issues but i got my 644 this morning and its fine so far. The guy who sold it to me on ebay (brand new and with feedback in the 10's of thousands) assured me that he has had no issues with the 644 batch

and hes sold loads of them (showing on feedback )

I'm happy
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] X_Farhad:
what issues? 636 has issues? do you think i shouldn't buy a 636?:confused:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] LJinFLA:
I have a 628 Herm200 (TyTN) that I got in August, 2006. I never had a screen alignment issue. Now I have upgrade to the latest SA ROM and now I have the screen alignment issue. why would this crop up now?

What do i do? Return it?

LJ
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] akash_84:
Umm... the issues of what the topic is about :P

I had screen alignment issues. Initially it was fine, I unlocked and installed the Imate firmware. Still ok then out of the blue after about 2 weeks the SA issues cropped up.

I usually would sort it out by re-aligning it. I didnt want to try the card trick although i knew about it roughly before it was posted by mistake because the day it went away was when i inserted a car under the frame to remove a badly stuck on protector.

But it came back and eventually i got fedup and sold it.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] azeemmir:
Hi

today i bought Hermes its 2nd hand but like new i think guy bought it and found about screen problemad he sold me now he is not replying my phone,

and problem is screen ,

is there any solution

its really big problem,

s/n

HT631

i am really upset , nice phone but big problem,
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] X_Farhad:
well i thought that 636 has no SA issues... quoting this from wiki:

so i think you should edit that page..

btw outta curiosity did you sell it on ebay?;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] azeemmir:
hello

yesterday i bught it without recipt

its new but no recipt,

now facing allignment problem,

i have called HTC Netherland,

and they said if it is in warrenty then we can repair , no change

if not then i have to pay repair cost and research coast which is 38 euros

and also repair cost,

it seems 100 euros r ready to go ,
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] waleedlt:
my device is herms100 imate jasjam I have this sa issue since I use the leather cover it make the problem because of the magnatic field of the lock as I think
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] srmz:
What is your S/N. I bought my Jasjam about 2 weeks ago a S/N HT647xxx. No screen alignment issues though I use the supplied case which has a strong magnetic closing button.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sergiopi:
I've posted somewere in this forum a report from Italy about HTC647xxxx screen alignment problem.

Also please read carefully, ISN'T magnetit field, software, ROM problem. Is a simple, stupid building problem (cheap and unprotective frame and supports, too tighten screws), enhanced by some screen type, revealed when you put the phone in your pants pocket or when you sit ON your Hermes :)

Some soluions are posted here and they will work for 80% of SA IMO
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] V J:
I'm now also having this screen alignment issue... After some use, suddenly the alignment is gone (and I can't even find how it is, the touchscreen appears to be totally random). Getting into the align-screen is difficult, and the device launches the procedure a couple of times in succession.

(device is alway in the supplied htc case on my belt)

Guess I'll have to send it back (for the third time: first there was a keyboard issue, next there was a display issue, and now there is a touchscreen issue).

Jörg
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Churchill:
After wrestling with my SA problem hoping for it to go away for about 2 months One morning it was so far Bingo... I could not calibrate at all it would go in a loop of some kind. I have performed a Hard reset with the hardware keys and then when the device startedup for the first time it became an eternal chase after the crosshairs hahahaha

I have sent it back via T-Mobile. They have sent me a padded envelope with stamps on it already... I had to describe the problem and send it off. hoping to get my device back with 2 weeks (that is what the CS rep told me)

But Amazingly it arived 2 bus days later. I have mailed it on late friday afternoon and wednesday morning the device was back with a new screen...

It works perfect now and I have it for about 3 weeks no sign of SA yet...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] anfangs:
Do not forget to re-align screen

After being through with WESBAR's procedure you may have to realign your screen. Here is how you open the control applet without using the touch screen:

Open the Start Menu with the Windows-Flag-Button.

Press "S" to open the Settings-Overview

Press "Tab" to arrive on the "Personal"-Tab.

Press "Cursor-Right" to switch to the "System"-Tab.

Press "Tab" to switck back to the control applets.

Press "S" several times until you arrive on the "Screen"-applet.

Press "Enter" to start the "Screen"-applet.

Press "Enter" to start the alignment procedure.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Jiiins:
Quicker: "the D-Pad and messaging key combo goes straight to screen calibration tool"
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] takakawai:
Cingular 8525

Herm100

SN:HT649Fxxxxxx

Purchased: Dec 22, 2006

Absolutely no alignment problem what so ever here:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] abubasim:
Serial number HT649. I've had the phone for almost three weeks. No problems so far.

Stylus was initially a bit tough to push in but this has become slightly better (hope this doesn't continue to "improve" until it becomes so loose that the stylus falls out by itself!).
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Ryuerik:
OX1HT

Softbank

1.33.761.4

11/10/06

1.14.00.10

bought 4 weeks ago no problems yet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] srmz:
Bought the Jasjam HT647 almost 1 month back and with rigourous use still no screen allignment problem. Stylus fit is also perfect.

The screen has a solid click on fully closed position as well as the fully open position. In fact in the fully open position it clicks on both the right as well as the left side. Yet it is a bit loose to my taste as when I put it in the pocket at times it tends to open slightly. I was worried that I may damage it but since I put it in my new Piel Frama case that problem is even over.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pvs:
None here

Only time I used screen agnment app was at the Cing store when I bought it, and once when I screwed it up and needed to hard reset.

S/N HT648F200xxx
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Jiiins:
I sent my Tytn back to the seller and just got it back after three weeks with apparently a new LCD screen and possibly a new keyboard. The alignment problem is still there though, idiots.

J
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] tw1tch:
HT627 Tytn

SA issues appear to come and go, sometimes it's bad, other times it's not so bad.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sawo:
HT635 - SA problems all the time..

im returning it to the nearest repair centre they said they gonna repair it but i have installed WM6 so what is better - reinstall WM5 from the CD or keep the current OS i dont want to reinstall everything again but they may say you use illegal rom so we cant repair it or some other BS like this i dont want to waste my time if that can be a problem..

Thanks in advice!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ricott:
SN: HT631

HTC TyTn

Early Oct 06

No Screen allignment issue so far.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] doul39:
SN HT630F204***

Owned for 3 months, ebay item.

maybe why the front camera doesn't work.

No SA issues though!

WMXL 6 2.01
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Jak Crow:
s/n: 630

model: HTC TyTN

Had unit since November. Screen alignment issues started in mid March.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] sbenedetti74:
S/N 643 screen aligment issue

SN 643

HTC Tytn (HERMES)

Buy on 6 december 2006

Screen aligment problem appears 15 march 2007!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] X_Farhad:
Has anyone encountered SA issues with a HT636xx ?

Is it known when HTC started to ship Hermes with new screens?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ken481:
Mine is 648 and have problems

Mine is serial 648 and i am having the phantom tap problem closing my programs.

Has anyone with this serial have this problem also?

Thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] guilty:
10 days and started screen problems.

My device is only 10 days old, it's a HT711 sold by orange spain. And today it has started with problems with the touchscreen.

It was working 10 minutes ago perfectly... now the touchscreen is dead. But the buttons and the keyboard works perfectly.

Let's see if orange will not say "warranty broken" now that I've reflashed with the last standard wm5 firmware from HTC, and unlocked with pof unlocker ... :mad:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] unicorn78:
Touch screen works only 1-2 minutes after turning on

Orange SPV M3100

S/N HT706...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] jompao:
Got my tytn replaced a month ago because of problems with screen alignment. Seem to be some bad contruction, still have the first iPaq modell and touchscreen works perfectly. Haven't had this problem on any other PDA/Smartphone either.

I think you need to not put in you pant pockets, keep in the case that came with it to prevent getting these problems.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mccreath:
yuckers!!

....had mine replaced two months ago....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] SvS:
Bought Tytn in july 06, directly to an online shop (materiel.net for my french collegues), so independently from an operator.

Alignment problems started in october 2006.. :mad:

S/N HT627F201683

Quite happy with it apart from this, specially with the excellent schaps ROM..
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] :
SA Issue!

Got the SA issue on my third Orange SPV m3100 - on the day I received it - today!

They're replacing it tomorrow - without charge!

s/n: HT652!

J.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] fordracerguy:
HT710xxx from eBay. About 10 days old, nothing so far. I had it on my 8125 after about 18 months though. I hope I don't get it again!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] galaxys:
Cingular 8525 from eBay March 2007. There has not been any alignment issue's. I have flashed many ROM's since and it always align's well on the hard reset.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pedrojlc:
ht 644

htc tytn

good since day one
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] lubbe:
Received my HT649F in March.

Worked fine untill month ago when SA started.

After installing Schaps 3.30 it went mad and the touch screen works only 1-2 minutes after turning on.

Downgraded to WM5 and returned it.

Still waiting for replacement unit
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] andresherrera:
Never spent so much Money on trash

My serial # is HT650, I can not beleive that this problem is so common and that they dont do a recall. I bought mine through an e-bay type auction and no one will take care of this for me. The phone lasted about 45 days without this showing up, just long enough for the guarantee to end.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pangag:
Thanx dude. IT really worked for me too....... I was about to replace the Touch Panel. Thanx a lot for this.....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Austin135700:
Orange SPV m3100 / HERM100

s/n: HT709F221988

Screen was fine when i got the phone (this was my 4th replacement), but when I had to have a new screen & digitizer fitted it developed the alignment fault.

I can't get any more info off the fone as it's 'bricked' now. I picked it up yesterday, 2 minutes after making a call, and it was completely dead. No charging lights when i plug it in, nothing. I've tried everything to get it running again but it's completely dead (i've not flashed it or anything, it was just used normally).

If anyone can help with this problem PLEASE get in touch!!! (it's out of warranty!)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mean-machine:
I've got 2 Varios II from T-Mobile UK.

S/N: HT643 and HT644

I had no alignment issues at all.

I recommended some of my friends to get a Vario II from T-Mobile and no one had any issues.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sherio1000:
So far so good

I tried it today morning and up till 12am midnight no problem. Have been playing games since then with no issues. Thxs it looks like it worked
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hermes1971:
LCD or Flex cable?

is this problem from LCD or its flex cable?

try to move your sliding keyboard in and out, and c the screen alignement issue...it could be worse than before....i think while moving the keyboard the flex cable also move along with, so....my conclution is, it may be the flex cable have developed some loos contact inside the flex cable (this is possible in all flex cables)

comments are welcome.