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[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Kiriakos-GR:
With specific generation of phones, them using tremendous complexity in power management by having internally several electronic (On/Off) switches and even additional circuitry this acting as switch (this having multiple positions), the first reasonable conclusion this is that there is no easy answers.

While most users all that they do care about, this is getting easy answers, by using an APP as interpreter of what going on inside the phone.

The very truth this is a combination of other factors.

I have also questions which them possibly their will remain unanswered.

1)	I need to know what New? Qualcomm contributed in the development of Marshmallow Kernel: In the regard of any additional driver improvements, them helping Snapdragon 800 series this to deliver more information regarding electrical measurements’.

2)	I need to know what New? Qualcomm contributed in the development of Marshmallow Kernel: Regarding the improvements’ in power management and how that gains, them are measured in percentage? Their text that the battery will now last longer, this is not enough for me.

3)	I need to know what New? Qualcomm contributed in the development of Marshmallow Kernel: Regarding wireless charging, are they any improvements’? helping to a more stable connection between receiver and charging pad?

Some of my questions them will get answers as soon will be released this new Marshmallow update for my G900F / Switzerland, and test it by my self.

Possibly this is the last major update for S5 hardware, therefore I am looking forwards to discover if there is any essential changes.

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All charging circuitry for Li-ion in our planet them using CC/CV charging process, CC mode it is easy to calculate, CV mode this is difficult to record especially if battery this formed high internal resistance and top up time, this could be several additional hours (after the phone reports 100% charged battery)

No one is aware of actual rate that S5 using when an power logger App this report (for example 1800 as higher rate) once the screen goes blank.

Simple English: When the phone reports due an App the number of 1800 this is interpreted as that the phone does not have active any electric current limiting circuitry at that time.

Active current limiting this is forced according to type of the source regarding the maximum input current.

Example:

a) Empty phone this connected to PC USB = phone limits down input current to 450mA ( Highest limiting stepping).

b) Phone charged up 95% and actual required power this is less than 400mA and dropping down = phone stops limiting input current ( Limiting mode disengaged)

c) The user wakes up the phone (back light on) = phone limits down again input current to 450mA ( Highest limiting stepping).
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] weseason:
How about this?

http://glass4m.com/product/qi-standard-wireless-charging-charger-pad
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] mario24601:
So is there a consensus on best receiver? That fits well with stock back?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] invisiblewave:
I don't know about a consensus, but the one I bought for $10 works perfectly well, it's the Laniakea. I have a slight suspicion that it prevents a perfect seal just under the flash opening, but other than that it's great.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] mario24601:
Thanks. So you don't trust it being water resistant anymore?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Looking Glass:
You can bet on that. No receiver other than the ones made by Samsung will keep the seal.

Mine got wet inside, being the camera window on the lower side the entry point.

Just be aware.

Hope it helps.

Regards.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] invisiblewave:
I've never trusted it to be water resistant. Slightly less so with the receiver installed. It's not something that bothers me, having had a smartphone for about 15 years and never having lost one to water damage. My guess is that if I shaved a little off the top edge of it, the back would probably seal better.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Looking Glass:
I'm probably a bit older than you :)......with mobiles in my hands since.... late 80's

The only one phone I've ever dropped into the water...... you guess, the S5 with the wireless receiver on it.

Murphy's law.

Regards.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] invisiblewave:
Well if we're talking mobiles! My first was the Sony Mars Bar, followed by the little Motorola flip thing and several Nokias. After that, I suffered through the pain that was Windows Mobile until the first smartphone that didn't require swallowing the Apple koolaid came along.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] elesbb:
You have measurements on the first post? I'm talking about like measuring the thickness using a caliper or similar device, then measuring the receiver to compare size differences. I wouldn't mind having wireless charging but with the bulge it scares me. Also, if i get the OEM back cover, would it even fit in my OtterBox preserver case?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
with some of the receivers listed, the bulge is minimum, you don't really notice it, and even with either of the recievers any case will fit, its not the end of the world with the bulge:fingers-crossed:, an d the bulge will be in different lacations depending which reciever you use, as for the oem wireless cover, there is another thread on that explains in much more details.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] elesbb:
Thank you very much :)

In terms of the bulge, does it break the waterproof seal? That's mainly what i'm worried about. Even though im getting an OtterBox Preserver case. I still want the device itself to remain waterproof.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Like myself, not many people is willing to test this out.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] elesbb:
Lol. Don't blame ya!
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Philtastic:
Great! Thanks!
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] skyrocketeer:
Major props for OP for dipping in to help the community.

I don't want to risk waterproofing so i just went with the OEM charge cover and used the 50% off accessories coupon given upon registering the phone.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] myKale:
Anyone else tried the Nillkin + Nokia dt 900 combo? Been charging and disconnecting for me.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
there is a few cases, not just you.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] flype:
Very good review kms108. :good:

A question:

How many megahertz reach in charge with the S5?

Thank you
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
S5 limits the charging to 640mAh max.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] flype:
Thanks Kms108, imagined that it was just like my S4.

I have a partner in Htcmania giving 450mA with the SlimPRWcard of fonesalesman.

I guess that it is because the microusb cable.

Pd:

I'm Spanish my English is not very fluid
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] sravanz:
Thanks for the reviews KMS108. On an average how long does it take to fully charge wirelessly? And whats the best charger you would recommend.

Thanks
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
should be about 3-4 hours from 0%, about the chargers, it's hard to recommend one, I have about 12 different ones, and I like them all, my newest one us the araree or named in other market as powerholic, it charges my phone very cool, photo is posted further up this page.

There are many others, but there is no point in recommending them as it's not available for purchase to everyone.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] myKale:
I think it will be nice if we can have a list of reciever-charger combo that works with each other. I just purchased the pwrcard, not thebslim version, and will try it again with my nokia pads. Will be purchasing the empower one as well probably in the next few days.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] edlee:
I bought number 5 on the list, and its giving off an insane amount of heat, you can't even hold the phone during a charge.

I wish i saw this guide before I ordered it, I never had issues with flexi coil before, I am looking to order number 6 on the list as a replacement.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] myKale:
Alright, got my PWRcard (non-slim) and used my Nokia dt900 and dt 910. It works well with the charging pads, but it does add a bulge. You have to get the phone positioned perfectly to get it charged continously. However, so far, my fone did not heat up quite much. I still need to use a battery monitor though. I tried it on both pads, and thr dt 910 one is actually quite perfect. I'm thinking about making a stand for the dt900. I'll keep using this setup and will report back in the next few weeks for updates.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Thats not really possible, there is over 60-70 chargers and approximate 20 receivers available on the market, and i'm sure no one has them all, I myself have tested about 25 of the chargers myself, and have no intention to purchase all the chargers.

I will be updating the first post in the next few days when I receive a new dual format wireless receiver, the receiver support both QI and PMA (powermat), useful for those living in the US where starbucks has support for wireless charging.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Bobby R:
Unknown?

Have not received my s5 yet but have been using wireless receivers on my s3 and then s4. Currently purchased what looks like a induction type labeled "energy" for the s5 and am looking at comparing its results with a copper coil type when my s5 arrives in a few weeks. Where did you find the copper coil type "unknown"? Link? I can't seem it find it. I'm using an induction type with magnetic shield on by s4 and it works fine and has a for some time. I'm concerned the lack of a magnetic shield may meet the sealing issue but may run a tad hot. Eager to find "unknown" to run meaningful comparisons between heat vs thinness. A link for purchase would be helpful. Don't need a charger but maybe the receiver is available separately, in any case, it's a cheap package. TIA
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
It seems like you are getting mixed up, no matter which one you choose, they are all induction type charging, and all receivers has the magnetic shield, this is required by the inductive charging, the one you have is identical to the 5th one in the first post which contains a flexi coil and flexi magnetic shield, and yes this one does has a heat build up.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] TripKidd:
I peeled the magnetic shield off and its working great. Could this cause a problem?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] johnnytraveler:
Wanted to know if generic charger pads works as well as branded chargers. Not what goes in the phone, but what you plug into the wall. I bought the Sammy back plate, and now need to buy a charger. Any recommendations?

Sent from my UNLOCKED SM900V.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] gyxter:
great review

Great Review!!! But can you show some pics with the receivers installed even with just what you think is the best one and which one doesn't show an opening near the heartbeat sensor and flash.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
yes it will cause a problem.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
All pads are branded, it's just that the main company have them rebadge for other.

if you want your phone to charge cool, try the iffu, sanwa/zens (non standing version otherwise you phone has to be placed upside down.) or araree/powerholic.

They are rather hard to get hold of.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I have considered it, including the bulge, but they all look the same and my camera does not take close up very well.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Bobby R:
Unknown

I guess you neglected to read the post, I was interested in a link to purchase the 6th item on the list called "unknown" so I could do a comparo of the two receivers.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Actually I read through you post, and only replied to part related to the information which you have mentioned about shielding.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] yoonus:
Hi,

I ordered Yijieneng receiver a while back. I am yet to receive it.

I saw your review later and immediately knew that was a wrong decision.

I was then inclined to order the Nillkin. Especially because they said the coil is printed on the bottom half to keep it away from the copper plate on the outer case and reduce heat.

I have picked up Nokia DT900 and DT910 recently from ATT. Your updated review says Nillkin doesn't work with Nokia. Did you test with both DT900 and DT910?

How about Powerqi. Does both powerqi ones work with DT900 and DT910?

I am not planning to order one immediately. Would it be wise to wait for the pre-production powerqi? Is there a difference in heat generated between 2 powerqi models?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I won't really say it's a bad investment, as it's only my personal opinion, and it doesn't really cost alot, I also should be receiving in the next day or too from yijieneng a powermat and QI dual format receiver.

I don't have any of the nokia's so I cannot comment, the information was provided from a few members here who has actually tried it.

apparently the powerqi and yijieneng should work with majority of the transmitter on the market, they have always had good compatibility between them.

Right now i'm using the normal powerqi most of the time, kind of like that, rather than the pre production version, the pre production version needs to be position the phone alittle higher, and towards one side like many receivers that are placed directly on the battery.

I would say the heat problem is a combination of the receiver and transmitter used, but overall not much heat on my side.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] apeas2:
after a few days with the Nillkin, I am very disappointed. First of all, NFC DOES NOT WORK and it constantly cycles on and off on both the Samsung Large charger and the Tylt VU which is the gold standard chargers. Back to square one!
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I have NFC working, and using the samsung large charger you need to place the phone further up.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] apeas2:
I can make it work with the large Samsung charger, but not with tylt. As for NFC, SBEAM does not work with the card in, I've tried on multiple Samsung phones.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I haven't tested the Sbeam, I just used different tags, and metro/train rechargable tickets.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Chas10:
NFC works fine here with the Nillkin. Transferring video and pics to and from my Nexus 7 2013.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] myKale:
The information about the Nillkin and Nokia dt900 and dt910 is probably from my post. I have both Nokia and the Nillkin. It works, but the charging cycles on and off. It wont even reach a minute and it would start the cycle. Afer that dissapointing afternoon, I bought the PWRcard non-slim version from Amazon. Two days later, I finally can charge wirelessly.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] yoonus:
Thanks for the quick confirmation.

Do you use a case? If yes, does charging with PWRcard non-slim and D900/D910 work with the case on?

How about heat generated?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] myKale:
I do use a case, Spigen Neo Hybrid. It charges as if it doesnt have a case. There is definitely heat generated from charging. I find it that it depends on how you position your phone. But the highest ive gone was around 38-39 Celsius. I do charge it overnight and I find it that it doesnt lose charge when it reaches 100%. After an overnight charge, heat temp is around 33-34 Celsius compared to resting around 32.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] heffe2001:
I got the Nillkin + the Nillkin Energy Stone charger, and so far it's working fine. It does appear to generate a little heat, but not any more than charging with the cable does in my car. The Nillkin does make the back case bulge a bit, and it's noticible in my Spigen Tough Armor case (it doesn't sit flush anymore on it's back, even though it's got the small raised feet on the corners). I also don't hold much hope that it's still water tight, as the left side does appear to come pretty close to the edge, and is quite thick at that point (no micrometer here so can't tell you my measurements). I didn't have any problems with it charging on the stone, and moved it around several times to make sure it kept connection. It's been charging for about 30 minutes or so, with no disconnects either.

It'll work for now, until I can get one of the super thin ones that appear to be coming out. I wasn't expecting the slight bulge to make my Spigen case sit funny, I could probably get use to it, but it's going to definitely cause a wear-spot over the IC in the Nillkin receiver, I have no doubt there.

Bought mine here.

Any way to disable the sound of the 100% charge, then the reconnect to charge at 99%? I've disabled all the charging stuff in wanum/xposed, but still get the tone that you get when plugging in the device to charge (just like plugging in a USB cable), when you hit 100%, then it stops charging and restarts..
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] torr310:
Aerb Qi Enable Wireless Charging Receiver + Pad

I purchased both the Aerb charging pad and charging receiver. This is my first wireless charging pad/receiver purchase, so I cannot compare to other brands. Below are my observations and experiences:

The charging pad: the surface is hard plastic and a little bit slippery. One side of the charging cable is regular USB but the other side isn't microUSB (it's the round shape), so you have to stick with their cable.

The charging receiver: it fits the phone but very tight to close the phone's back cover. Sorry I don't dare to test the ability of water proof.

The charging current detect on my phone is about the same as the advertised. It's average 670 mAh.

The phone gets hot while charging. The CPU is constantly at 49 Celsius degree and the battery is around 40 Celsius degree. My room temperature is 24 Celsius (75 Fahrenheit degree).

Finally, the warranty isn't stated on the product page but the email follow-up received by River-Tech states they have ONLY 45 days warranty. So I decided to return both of them because I am not confident about them and the phone gets uncomfortably hot during charging.

EDIT: Photo Uploaded

More pictures
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
can you take photos.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] glitchhawk:
has anybody seen a qi pad that might still work with an extended battery? it would need a longer arm to the connector so that the pad could still sit on the battery i suppose.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] torr310:
Pictures uploaded.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] matty_g_8:
I picked up the first powerqi one u mention and it states to remove the copper shield on the back of the case... Has anyone else done this?

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I picked up the first powerqi one u mention and it states to remove the copper shield on the back of the case... Has anyone else done this?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
sorry i curious to know which charger you have, can you also post photo of that.

Your receiver is the energy one, yes it does run hot, the good thing is, its not fussy about which charger you use.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I have a few, been using them for a few months now.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Ive removed it, there is a photo in my first post.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] matty_g_8:
With most charging pads are they ment to turn off when when they get to 100% or is each different... I picked up this one caus it was local http://pages.ebay.com/link/?nav=item.view&id=281360494336&alt=web

I haven't tested to see if its stops charging but does get pretty warm
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
It's hard to comment on this, but I think it's a combination of what receiver and trnasmitter used.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] matty_g_8:
I've just removed the copper shield and it runs a lot cooler but the thing will make a sound and show up on the screen that it's changing every 30 seconds when it's at about 97-99%...when it's charging up to that it's fine
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
i'm not getting any problems.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] heffe2001:
I've got my copper shield removed as well, and also get the connect/disconnect/connect cycle when it's at 100%, although usually after a few times it stops. It's definitely annoying when it's doing it though.. Also on my pad it seems to be worse if it's not lined up on the pad very well. I've got all the battery charging sounds disabled between xposed and battery doctor, but still get that initial beep noise you get when you connect a charger (not the wireless charging detected noise, the initial 2 light beeps. If I could disable that noise I'd be ok with it, but for some reason it seems like it's impossible to get rid of completely, lol.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I don't see how it will affect wireless charging in anyway, as it wasn't made for this purpose, all I know it gets quite warm to hot if it's not removed.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] heffe2001:
I don't think the copper shield has anything to do with the noises, just noted that I'd done the same thing. That part hasn't seemed to affect anything as far as I can tell (same fit on the cover before removal as after as far as I can really tell).

I'd love to figure out how to get rid of those charger connected tones. It's really random as to when it does it (it's sitting on the charger at the moment at 100%, without making any tones at all). It's quiet enough that I most likely won't hear it when I'm asleep, but on my desk at work or home it'll drive me bonkers if it does it frequently, lol.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] avid.aria:
If you are rooted go to system>media>audio>ui and rename "charger_connection.ogg" to something like "charger_connection.ogg.bak"
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] heffe2001:
Ends up it's at:

/system/media/audio/ui/Charger_Connection.ogg

Renamed it, and no connection noise anymore. Thanks for the tip..
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] matty_g_8:
So does the charging cycle loop occur because of the receiver or the charging pad

Its so hard to get charging pads sent to australia...amazon dont deliver them here

I see people are suggesting the qt30

here seems to be the only play that will ship here

http://www.buysku.com/wholesale/qif...kia-lumia-920-820-htc-8x-droid-dna-black.html
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] torr310:
The pictures of charger are uploaded too.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] TheM@n:
Pre-Production PowerQI Receiver

Awesome thread! Very helpful.

Any word on the release date or where to purchase?

It is currently on there website as available to suppliers

Due to being a newb/ lurker cant post the link, so here is the model number: PowerQI N500

Thanks
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
They don't have a site, all links direct them to alibaba for all my previous searching, you can try to request for a sample, you will be charged for it.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] TheM@n:
Thanks, I will see what i can do

Update: Got in contact with an Alibaba rep today and will be able to purchase a sample. Thank for the great idea.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Cholerabob:
This is the one i got, works perfectly, no bulges , cover closes, charge spot is easy to find . All for 6.99$

http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Qi-Wireless-...e_PDA_Chargers&var&hash=item233ad8f87d&_uhb=1
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] nick323:
How hot does it get when charging for more than an hour?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Cholerabob:
I leave it charging over night and it is not hot the morning after, less than with the Samsung USB charger
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] JRCARRERAS:
Two questions, does it lift the back cover under the heart rate sensor and do you think is thin enough to keep the phone water resistant? Thank you.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I posted previously that I will be receiving a PMA/QI receiver in one, apparently there was a problem with the PCB, so it was delayed, the manufacture will let me know the results on monday.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Looking Glass:
I've installed the itian/Energy one, (rated at 0,5 mm thick) and a few days after my pone got a breef drop in the swimming pool, (NOT intentionally :))

Water entered the inners of the phone inmediatlely, and though I've been able to get it back to "normal", I would advice everyone to take care.

If IP rating is somehow REALLY important to you, go with the Samsung cover. If you just want to avoid the burden of the USB cover fiddling, then try the one you like of the many shown in this thread.

This is a trade-off, not a nice solution yet.

Regards.