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[LG Optimus 4X HD] Streetdragon:
i run the 11-20141103 nightly. I try to juse a "logcat" app.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
nightly from 5.11. seems to run more smooth and stable for me sofar, whyever.

Thanks !

perhaps I made any install-fault last time.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Streetdragon:
Should i do a Celan install of the newest rom? i made it already with the 1103, so it would be a new update on the "fresh" rom.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
I just formated cache, system and wiped dvalik.

Then flashed the rom and fixed permissions and rebooted.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
And it has extreme low battery drain. Thanks :good:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] pouriajamali:
hi

if i do system format,i will lose my data???
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nitink912:
yes.

sure.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] bilbo75:
Format /system is safe. You will lost data only if you format /data or if you will do a factory reset.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Bubino75:
I reinstall also gapps micro zip of pa that fix permission
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
yes, correct. Just forgot to write that ....;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SnowRaptor:
Where can I get that zip?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
I have changed the mount options to grouper L ones you might experience a device lock up on first boot(not instantly) on next nightly.

Also i have fixed Nfc so it wont consume so much battery when is on.

The bad news is L wont boot so easily on 4.1.2 blobs(pre-Kitkat) :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SnowRaptor:
Thanks! :good:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
What has to be done, that we will be able to boot Lollipop? Will be now the usage of Grouper blobs mandatory to make Lollipop functional?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Prey for compatibility layers all the way back to JB or go unofficial ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
So it won't be hard to make functional unofficial CM L? For official it means lots of modifications...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Bubino75:
Here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942

;)

Choose want you want!

Ops I'm late :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Today menu has sound fixes, test it and report back if anything wrong.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
When you say "sound" do u mean volume during call too or ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Check them out here

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/lge-kernel-p880/commits/cm-11.0
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
Is it already in the build 6.11. or will it be compiled in 7.11. ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Bubino75:
Nightly 06.11 came from 30.10

- format cache

- format dalvik cache

- format system

- install rom

- install gapps pa

Profile issues is still present and now phone is total freeze, I have to reboot it!

With 30.10 no problem of this type!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
[MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION] Can you upload the Lollipop Rom if you are able to get a bootable Rom?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
See post #2440
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
Is there any Rom with Lollipop already available?

I mean its already ported for Galaxy S3 Mini which stucks a 4.1.2 too!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] daniel.mota:
[MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION], the GPS receiver is greatly improved, great work!

The signal fixing is super fast, now our GPS is not perfect only because the signal is not very stable.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Adam77Root:
Stop asking this. If you want Lollipop, go build it for yourself.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
It was only a question!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tool_king:
For off topic questions go to the Q&A section!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
did someone else tried nightly from 7.1.1. already ?

Seems extreme smooth :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
I will wait 1 more day to be shure this sound fixes demetris added are going to be applyed before fleshing new CM.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
The last commit was 17 hours ago, build was compiled 11 hours ago. So it is already included ;)

I deserve a thanks! ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
should be included already ...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Bubino75:
Sorry, I do not understand much of github and following the link posted yesterday by demetris I did not understand what we are talking about? Can you describe in 2 words?

Thanks
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
1.Sound

2.Better
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
:laugh:

[MENTION=3433578]Bubino75[/MENTION]: Think you do not need to wait longer. Just flash an test actual nightly ...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] pouriajamali:
I have problem with calling..sometimes when i call or somebody call me i dont hear any sound..i use last nighty and wipe cash dalvik and system before install
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Try next nightly and report back
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xperia u20i:
06. or 07.11. nightly?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Next out
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
could only make exactly 1 call without problem with nightly from 7.11.

had to go back to 5.11.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Bubino75:
Not even one!

Go back to 6.11
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
I really hate it when i have no problems and you do, is my model different or what? Let's wait for next nightly hoping for the bug to go away.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
8.11.14 nightly Is in order. Runs pretty good. Thanks!

Best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xperia u20i:
I just update to 8.11. And on outgoing call i don't hear other person, but other side hear me. When someone call me everything is ok. I made a log.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/dl2zpvp681mnivr/2014-11-08_07.54.zip?dl=0
[LG Optimus 4X HD] masmoe:
update to 8.11 via cyandelta and working fine here. calling my mom without problem...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
could you make 3-4 calls in and out with that nightly ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
With 8.11. nightly I couldn't be able to hear person on the other side, everything else worked

Edit: only outgoing calls
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Optimissimus99:
In the German forum someone has also outgoing call bug with 7.11 nightlie
[LG Optimus 4X HD] vladi-it:
8/11 first call works, then from second ...grave :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] daniel.mota:
Could this fixes be responsible for muted calls?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
The one i still dont have, logcat please.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] daniel.mota:
Here is a log:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
exactly what i wrote about my experience with 7.1. :confused:

so, I did not dreamed ... :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xperia u20i:
Now same problems on incoming calls also. :confused: Another log.

Edit:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/53vk31slajikaxe/2014-11-08_14.40.zip?dl=0
[LG Optimus 4X HD] maderos:
No problems at all with last nightly. I can call, someone can call me...everything is ok.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
I have reinstalled 8.11. build and hey, mic worked on outgoing calls, tried 7 times :D

Edit: And now it doesn't work anymore https://www.dropbox.com/s/juwy9bc2jhoqjsh/2014-11-08_15.27-klic.zip?dl=0
[LG Optimus 4X HD] abderman:
8.11, v20b, art > incoming and outgoing calls ok
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xperia u20i:
Did you just flash over or wipe system...and so on.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gmajnkek:
Same problem as everyone else. Rebooted my phone... first call was ok, the next one as before (cant here anyone).
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Well this is awkvard :silly: my incoming calls are working perfect even sound volume is great i mean GREAT but when i call soemone i dont hear anything not even ringing sound....
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gmajnkek:
Tryed incoming and outgoing calls. Same... back to LS
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
Is it true that there is already CM 12 repo available??????
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Just synced it so yeah.

Hey guys can you try my own compiled one so to check those sound issues you are referring to,

Link: https://goo.im/devs/demetris/OptimusX4HD/CM11-DEV/cm-11-20141106-UNOFFICIAL-p880.zip
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
[MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION] are you going to try to build a Rom?

If yes are you going to share it to us if it boots?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Would be pre-pre-pre-alpha aka unusable if i do
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Legion69:
Flashed 8.11 and call dont work anymore. Flashed back 7.11 and no one hear me.

I make some benchmrks and noticed some performance drop, M build have 18k antutu points, nightly 7 & 8.11 about 15k points.

Im on unoficial CM11 now until calls have been fixed. Best regards.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
but nightly from 5.11. works perfect for me sofar. :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LeonardHofstadter:
I'm still on 10/29 nightly. It's the most stable version i had so far, but there is the issue that after a while, any installed music player won't play the mp3s from my SD-Card. Ringtone from the same location is fine, though. After a restart everything works again for a while. Did you notice something like that in the 11/5 nightly?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] alberteske:
I had sme battery drain with 5/11 and I am very satified with 6/11.

Did someone tried the unnofial one of today? :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
you mean this one: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56602790&postcount=2493 ?

I can only try it tomorrow.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
08.11.2014. nightly working fine for me call volume is not high as it was on previous one bit it is ok.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xperia u20i:
I'll try that in next few hours.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] vladi-it:
Works two times, then silence.. Sorry..
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xperia u20i:
[MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION], i tried your unofficial and sometimes outgoing calls work, but mostly don't. And only work when i make call from history, not from big tiles, but some times even from history don't work,if you know what i mean. Don't know is it coincidence or what. About incoming, i tried 10 times and work...i make a log.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/rknw4zg0amqmv0g/2014-11-09_14.48.zip?dl=0
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tool_king:
If you are on Unofficial CM11 right now, you shouldn't post your report in this thread, but in the Unofficial CM11 thread.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] xperia u20i:
No...not that unofficial but that one of demetris. Read few posts above and you will understand. :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] lorddimic:
For me everything is fine on latest nightly, and sound is just great, thanks a lot [MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION]

Послато са мог LG-P880 користећи XDA Premium 4 мобилну апликацију
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
you mean that from 9.11. ?

If there will come up any problems please report. Esp. concerning after several calls :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Just pushed this

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/lge-kernel-p880/commit/6dc9e55ab9894bbee967a08f1945d0f62acb6e50

As i still don’t get any issues and i dont want again to reverse my work blindly please test and report next nightly, that would be 10/11/14
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kr428:
Call volume seems broken in recent nightly again? My partner can hear me but not vice versa...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] maus01:
Nog having any problems with calling. Iam on 11-7 nightly

Edit: i made a clean install
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kr428:
Seems to just have appeared today after moving to 1109, used to be fine with 1107...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
9/11/14 nightly

Thank you [MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION]

Today I was in the mountains.Through the forest down with my car.Bad weather, completely overcast, rain and fog.But my navigation is still working.11 satellites, 5 fixed and in only 15 seconds.GPS works great.I am very impressed. :good: Mei friend has no satellites found. :laugh:

---------- Post added at 08:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

Sorry! Demetris has no thread created for unofficial cm11.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Jack_capvil:
No calls troubles with 20141109 nightly. Everything seems to be OK
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
OK. Will download an try nightly from 10.11. now too .... :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kr428:
Same in 1110 - audio only works with Bluetooth. Otherwise I am not able to hear anything. Just me? Anything to do to debug this?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
Correct.

Again the 1st call works for me and then no more call possible after that ...

Go back again to 5.11.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] chriiiiiiiiiiiiiii:
For me it is the same, with 1110 audio is not working during calls.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
Well, in the first call all is fine. You can not make any first call ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] chriiiiiiiiiiiiiii:
For me no first call is possible.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kr428:
No first call on any build newer than 1107 on my device. With 1107 it seems to generally work however.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
Interesting. For, as I wrote in 2 posts, the same effect with nightly from 7.11. and now 10.11.: first call okay and then no more possible. Whyever-.

Perhaps 6.11. is also okay, but I go always back to a backup from 5.11.. There all is perfect for me.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] chriiiiiiiiiiiiiii:
Yes with 1107 the first call works and then nothing. Before 1107 everything seems to be fine.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nikolaiffb:
Post log for Demerits and wait...

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[LG Optimus 4X HD] Jack_capvil:
I would like to make a suggestion when Demetris creates an "unofficial temporary" build in order to test some new possibilities. Instead of naming it "unofficial" which creates some confusion with other roms named so, it would be more clear to name this build "test version" or something equivalent.

What do you think about this?

In addition I would like to know if others have same bug as me with lock-screen shortcuts? I am unable to change them: parameters app. closes everytime. It has been the case with every nightly build for a long time (many weeks).
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
nightly from 11.11. is available and to test with some new fixes concerning telephony and sound as I understand ! :p

a carnival ROM :)

edit:

Sooo:

- First out-call works. Both sides hear and speak fine.

- after first out-call: no other out-call works. Mean: only other side hears what I speak and I can't hear anything, even no "dial-tones"

- after first out-call: incoming calls all works fine ! Both sides can speak and hear
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
[MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION] Could you revert to the previous audio state (5th Nov)? :confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Streetdragon:
I installt the cm-11-20141110-NIGHTLY-p880.zip with factory reset, format partition, darvek and /System.

I installed the Pico gapps pack and some of my apps.

I Have no Problems with the Sound and with phoning.

Incoming and Outgoing are working great. I made 3 in and 3 out.

So im Happy atm.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] bilbo75:
Don't know if it's important, but what baseband are you using? V20c of October 2014?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
Wait for next nightly before saying this. On github you can see some audio related commits, which might fix the problem :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
I really hope so, because personally I start thinking that these audio changes are not really worth the trouble. Don't get me wrong, I really appriciate Demetris' work! I just want the nightlies to be stable enough for daily usage, since we've stopped getting M builds.

Anyway. Finger crossed for the next nightly! :fingers-crossed:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
I agree with you.

Might want to check this: https://github.com/CyanogenMod/lge-kernel-p880/commits/cm-11.0
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
That's the commits page. What about it?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
That commits seem to be all in 11.11. nightly included. Look at commit time and build time.

So, thats the reason of my last post for 11.11. ROM. :eek:

Had installed it wich format of system, cache and dvalik. Only data has left as it was.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LGaljo:
I think it is not yet included. Compilation time: around eleven o'clock (compilation takes 30 min), finished at 11:25, commits time: (15-16 hours ago), first today's commit dates at caround 11:50. So Commits have missed the compilation for half an hour. [MENTION=1149134]Demetris[/MENTION]?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Are You kidding? Now phone calls have a feeling like the person in other line is sitting next to me and i still i have zero/zip/nada problems.Stop flashing custom kernels and messing up your phones.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Streetdragon:
I made a Screenshots where you cann see my baseband. I installed nothing else then the nightly and the pico gapps.

So i dont realy know, if i have the new bseband or something. (Do i have the newest?)

BTW after a new ROM install it is normal, that the batterydrain is preety high right?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] abderman:
11.11 stuck on cm logo, cyodak neizer mourta kernel doesnt help.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
Personally, I don't have problems with phone calls. Everything works perfectly. It might be the case that people reporting that kind of problem are using custom kernels, using call recoding apps, etc. The only reason I suggested reverting back is because we're focusing specificly on that problem and we're not really doing the things we should be doing.

For example, I really want to see M12 for our device since it's the last for KitKat. I'd be great if we had a stable fully up-to-date CM11 ROM. Please keep up the good work on the stable branch, and let us have it :)

Also, now we have Lollipop and we need to get our device ready for that

Thanks in advance,

Keep up the good work!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] aria12:
Wipe cache and system .Than flash the zip again.

I am on the last nightly and have no problems with it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] daniel.mota:
Sorry, but I had a muted call while using 8/11 nightly, and I use cm11 kernel and no call recording apps.

Meanwhile I went back to 5/11 until this issue is solved.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Try next nightly after full wipe
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
you mean a factory reset inclusive data wipe ? :confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
That's what full wipe mean ;) Including data wipe
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
So we try it with nightly from 12.11. :fingers-crossed:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
In next nightly i"ll do it too maybe my phone is stuck in paradise mode :D
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
"do it too"? Do what? Full wipe? :confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
Full wipe to see if i get your issue
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
ok! That's great, although I don't think that your phone is in "paradise mode" since mine doesn't get these problems either.

Let's just hope that we'll solve these stupid audio issues soon enough, because we have an M build coming! ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kr428:
No custom kernels here. Still, the behaviour of only first call working is there. Anything to do to figure out why?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ezet:
Hello Demetris,

I can confirm the issue with audio on calls, i couldn't hear the other side.

Unfortunately i don't have a log of it since i reverted right away to be able to call.

Thing is that in some cases configuration together with some VOIP applications like viber might be causing this. So a wild guess if you are not using Viber or similar you might not have this issue and the rest that have it are using it.

Nevertheless, good work mate! :good: Gave this crappy phone a life extension :highfive:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] heliflieger9:
With the nightly from 11.11. the cpu frequency hangs on 1000MHz.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] sv2hqx:
Nop !!!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] heliflieger9:
After clearing caches all is fine.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Jack_capvil:
Frequency variation is OK for me with 1111 build
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EsromTech:
Hello, just to report at the moment I can not do a logcat, but I'll leave me under a mistake.

App in CM Manager (file manager), is not able to read the external memory, it is as if the sd was not mounted. In root explorer or ES Explorer opens normal, but the default file manager is causing FC.

Any solution? this is just a bug or error I got a bad luck?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] alberteske:
I refrain myself from updating because of the sound issue mentioned by other users but I have been using 11/11 and all was fine.

As mentioned before, it must an interaction between app or a hardware incompatibility of some phones. By the way, mine came from Germany and I have antenna 20C
[LG Optimus 4X HD] lorddimic:
For me outgoing calls works perfectly, but on incoming I can't hear other side...

Послато са мог LG-P880 користећи XDA Premium 4 мобилну апликацију
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LeonardHofstadter:
Radio crashes

FYI: The baseband change to V20C did not solve to radio crashes. I'm still on 10/29 nightly (because of the audio problems). It seams though, that the crashes get more frequent, the longer the rom is on the phone. First few days were fine, than a single crash every other day and since Sunday I have crashes daily and today even twice.... :rolleyes:

I'm really thinking about getting a new phone.... I like CM to much to go back to Stock.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
Did we miss the last KitKat Snapshot? Amazing... :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
We are not here for Snapshots but to make user experience as bug free and trouble free as it can be.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
Perhaps you should try to use 5.11. or 6.11. nightly and use it with a real factory reset and fix-permissions etc., mean total clean install. I have also v20c baseband and no crashes and that ROM works rockstable here.

Only since 7.11. I get problems and that "only" with call-events. (which is of course not usable :cyclops:)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
If i find some time i will blindly (again!) revert some kernel changes so i can upload a test build for you but it would be better if one of you that has the audio issue to pm me so we can work together so others would benefit the fact that am ready to reverse every sound fixes i did , and i really feel sad to the thought of that as now audio feels really great
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
That's what Snapshots are dude... The Snapshots are the nightlies' user experience as bug free and trouble free as they can be :p
[LG Optimus 4X HD] daniel.mota:
I too feel like we should have a stable and bug free (as much as possible) cm11 before the developers definitely move on to cm12.

If that stable and bug free build is called snapshot or not, I don't think that really matters.

So I ask Demetris and all the cm devs to please make sure we end up with the best cm11 possible, because we may not get a stable and bug free cm12.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Demetris:
as a reminded: after Milestone releases there is always a "stable" one
[LG Optimus 4X HD] amkirk94:
Really? I'm sorry, I thought M12 was the last (stable) KitKat release. If we get a Stable CM11 ROM, I'll be really happy! :o
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LeonardHofstadter:
Sry, if I may be off topic.

Does anybody know why cm account is sending/receiving so much data over wifi?

I was just checking and its constantly sending packages oft about 200MB... I can think of no reason why it should communicate that much at all.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] alberteske:
You can safely delete cm account app:cool:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
What is that "fix permissions" that everyone is talking about ? i cant find it anywhere what it is and how to do it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] LeonardHofstadter:
I know that. But I like the feature CM Account offers. That question is: Does anyone know what CM Account is actually doing with so much traffic? Especially when it's sole purpose is to sit and wait for a remote command.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] alberteske:
It is an extrange behavior. Google's account offers you the same remote control.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] daniel.mota:
I also have cm account enabled, and it has just 600 kB of traffic in the last month, so there's something wrong there.

Maybe those 200 MB are from the cm updater (200 MB is more or less the rom size).
[LG Optimus 4X HD] nikolaiffb:
GApps reinstalation.

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[LG Optimus 4X HD] LeonardHofstadter:
Possible. Maybe they just got mixed up. CMUpdater has no traffic for the shown periods ... :silly:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Adam77Root:
Yeah it can get mixed up as it measures data by uid of app. In case of a dirty flash (even updating from one nightly to another in some cases) this can happen.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] EB20XY:
Go into recovery (twrp) and there you can find it :fingers-crossed: