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[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
It's probably just me but even 100% stock Sense from the RUU, I get weird SMS/MMS problems. Messages come in much later than they are sent, they stop working, some MMS download some don't. I know with Sense I have to manually configure the APN but I put the exact same settings as what i get automatically with GPE but yet no problems on GPE, plenty of problems on Sense.

My selling point for Sense on 4.4.4 is that there were no glitches but with 5.0.1, GPE (for me) seems more stable.
[One (M8) General] Bobbi lim:
Brings back memories to the good old HTC Desire days where s-off was easily obtain and custom roms were good! After which your One X kernel that gained you quite a few followers ;)

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After trying out lollipop with sense on top I doubt I will go back to GPE or CM for the time being... Though the rom I'm using now gets me enough battery to last 2 days in school easily with medium to light usages... But I don't like parts of the rom itself. In comparison of GPE lollipop to lollipop sense, there's a big major difference.

First and foremost, the animations!

In GPE, whether is it the dialer, app menu, quick settings; there tends to be animations throughout, beautifully designed to make user that the users will see it (if you're observant enough :P) while on Lollipop Sense, the animations are way lesser. Dialer, nah! Still sense 6 dialers with no animations. App drawer, don't think about animations until sense 7 is out. Quick Settings though nice and useful since we are allowed to add and remove quicksettings but it just doesn't look as much neat and sleek as what is on GPE.

After which, is the battery life.

In terms of battery life, most users will know that Sense will definitely be the winner here. On Sense Lollipop rom, I can easily get 35hrs of standby, 6hrs of SOT with 2hrs of phone call. But on GPE, not so! Even with minimal usage, I can only squeeze out 30hrs of standby, 5hrs of SOT and around 1.5hr of phone calls. To make the stats fair in this case, the setup of the phone, the apps installed are the same. And thus the obvious winner here will be sense lollipop.

Lastly, is the User Interface.

To me, using GPE makes me feel that my M8 isn't an M8 anymore but more of a nexus with some of the M8's goodies :P When I yearn for a stock android experience, GPE is the way for me! CM isn't on the list until the builds starts having no issues as bugs are constantly affecting the CM buids. As for sense, though sleek and fast but I won't deny that it's less appealing to GPE.

In conclusion, I'm going to stick with lollipop sense.

Simple reason, sense camera and battery life. I can get similar camera experience on GPE but the battery life is a must for me as I'm always away from the charger for a long period of time and I don't have a portable charger with me so the rom that gives me the best battery is what I will side with
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Thanks for your input, M8! :)
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
The camera is better on Sense but for someone like me who doesn't put every meal I eat on instagram, it's not a huge difference. Sure it's basic but face fusion, adding little snow flakes, i'm sure some people love that stuff but I don't need that at all.

The two things that always make me go back to GPE after a few days is the dialer (yes it's possible to have it on sense but I want to be stock) and the ugly notification icons. Wifi is okay but the 3g/4g/gps icons are horrible.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I still can't decide and it's because I'm getting annoying glitches with Sense even with the RUU. Frequent WIFI disconnects and MMS/SMS delays are really annoying. I have WIFI everywhere I go so I have a data plan that is rather slim, so if my phone disconnects from WiFi, I'm wasting my data and I really don't like that. I have Bluetooth skipping on both if WIFI is enabled

GPE, no glitches, looks much better but battery life is not quite the same, camera can't save to SD card (why is it missing such a simple feature), but I think it's the flavor that gives me the most confidence the phone is working perfectly.
[One (M8) General] MistaBishi:
I'm having neither of those issues, wondering what's going wrong for you?

I'm now happy on 5.0 with Sense, good camera, audio quality, best battery life. I often consider converting back to GPE but then convince myself it isn't worth it. Plus with 5.0.1 GPE, I had issues with my Fitbit and Bluetooth. Have yet to have those issues on Sense.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I think the WIFI issues are because at work the SSID doesn't broadcast. I saw today that GPE does the same thing, it disconnects and reconnects often. Definitely not a problem I had on 4.4.4 Sense or GPE.

It's the notification icons that make me want to convert back to GPE, they are big and ugly on Sense but with Nova at least I can hide them :)
[One (M8) General] MistaBishi:
They don't bother me all that much. Only one that bothers me is Boomsound and NFC icons. But the ROM I'm using (Android Revolution) hides the NFC icon which is nice.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I think my problem is that I don't give Sense a long enough trial before switching back. Sure it's missing some of the animations and there are things that are ugly like the dialer, the quick settings are not quite as nice, but there are great things too like changing the font, lock screen wallpaper, camera, sound, battery ect... Thankfully I don't use NFC so I don't have to stare at that thing!
[One (M8) General] Alex-V:
Yes the incoming call screen on lockscreen...and also the alarm screen is pretty bad on sense...
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
THat's why I use Timely when I'm on Sense for alarms and timers, the "price is right" wheels on Sense were nice 5 years ago but not anymore. GPE looks a lot nicer no doubt about that.
[One (M8) General] u-wot-m8:
Mine would be AOSP, if CyanogenMod 12 was stable. Until then it's GPE. I don't like Sense.
[One (M8) General] phonecharger:
Sense for music, weather and blinkfeed. Gpe for stock (stable) google experience and aosp for fun buggy featureessss
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
I'm on GPE lollipop since I can't get my Tapatalk notifications in Sense Lollipop no matter what I do.
[One (M8) General] d08speed3:
I wish AOSP has bombsound =\
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Because I'm trying to stay stock, I lean towards GPE because it looks and feels better. I tried Maximus and ARHD and they are great, more themes (why would HTC not make more of them or allow themes to be customized, it's 4 colors how hard could that be.

Sense 6 with the teal/black theme looks great to me and I really like it but custom ROM for me means too much checking for updates, new mods, kernels, drive me nuts. I wish there was a way to unlock the extra themes with Stock Sense 6 without root, I'd probably stick with that if it were the case.

EDIT: I can't imagine there isn't a way to push whichever file needs to be updated via ADB and call it a day but I'm not familiar with that enough and it probably requires permissions changed as well.
[One (M8) General] karlanal:
every now and then i install a different rom, meaning either aosp or gpe, and use it for maybe 10-14 days, because it wouldnt be fair to not to give them the chance to get to know them and than use them for some time, but i always go back to sense, it doesnt look like some elephant was playing with painting sticks and one can tell that they spent many many hours on it and everything is very well taught trough

im staying with htc not only because i love their hardware, there are other manufacturers with nice HW too

but they dont have sense

PS

did you use titanium backup to restore something, if so that could be the reason for tapatalk missbehave, i for myselve had massive data connection problems
[One (M8) General] tjeeeeee:
I would say GPE has been the best thing I've used yet but sense lollipop is pretty impressive mind you I was strictly GPE until I saw LeeDroids sense Rom
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
I am in the middle of 2 great roms, Adrenaline which is Sense Lollipop and the GPE rom by loserskater and enewman17 it's so difficult to pick because I love themes and the sense rom has 32 built in themes. However I love stock Lollipop look especially that rom since it has cm features built in. I have a backup of both roms but what would you guys choose?

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/development/rom5-0-1sense-6-0adrenaline02-06-t3023868

http://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/development/rom-m8-gpe-01232015-t3010825
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
First time I hear about either, I'll have to check out the Sense ROM.
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
They're both awesome, the sense rom is extremely debloated and fast but it's Verizon only atm. GPE rom is multicarrier and has a ton of features plus great battery life.
[One (M8) General] leo9891:
So i've posted here before about how i preferred Sense 6, ONLY because of the HTC Camera App. Since recently, I switched to CM12, and I have to say, the ROM is REALLY smooth and fast. the camera on there is snappy, but the quality is still lacking. I then installed the HTC Camera from the Play Store, and it works! So now I can say I like both the AOSP or GPe since I can install the HTC Camera.

I just think HTC's camera app was optimized for the 4 Ultra Pixel Duo Camera on board of the M8.

I think this is where HTC has earned a future customer, minus the M9 cause of the minor aesthetic update. M10 will probably be my next phone, even with just a minor update to the look of the phone.
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
So.. U can install the sense camera from store?? And gallery for all the edit stuff? If yes, I'm a gpe convert..lol
[One (M8) General] leo9891:
Yes, you can. I installed the HTC Camera, HTC Gallery, and HTC Video Viewer. You can install all of the HTC apps.

Other manufacturers need to do this! I always wanted the Nexus 6, but it was way too pricey for off contract, and I actually like some of the manufaturers built in apps (SOME! VERY FEW LOL), and the build quality and aesthetics of the HTC One M8 is unrivaled for an Android device. So now I have me a Nexus 6 with the beauty of HTC and some of HTC's apps. Its a win-win!
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Best news ever. Guess I've got reason to root, s off, etc. This is the longest I've gone. Lol
[One (M8) General] joaocadide:
How can I install HTC Camera on my converted GPE M8?? I cannot find any way to do it! It says it's not available on the Play Store.

:confused:
[One (M8) General] ryanrich:
Definitely Sense!

I converted to GPE a few days ago to try it out and was very disappointed. The fact that you can't even edit the shortcuts in the drop down menu is madness... Seems like they went backwards from Kit Kat in some ways.

Sense is pretty awesome, not very intrusive and ugly like TouchWiz and adds nice functionality.
[One (M8) General] thebobmannh:
http://xdaforums.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/themes-apps/app-sense-camera-gallery-m8-rom-t3008262
[One (M8) General] leo9891:
Hmmmm, maybe its only on AOSP. I don't understand as to why because on the Official GPe HTC One M8, it comes with the HTC Camera, Photo Edit, and Gallery, along with BoomSound.
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
What you guys think about GPE/AOSP 5.1 compared to Sense 7. I personally think Android 5.1 has some battery improvements when I was using one of the AOSP 5.1 roms, but Sense 7 looks really good & works 100%.
[One (M8) General] MistaBishi:
GPE feels slow in comparison to Sense 7. I don't know what it is, but it doesn't feel as snappy. Just my observation.
[One (M8) General] Opticuhl:
The only thing that keeps me from loving AOSP is that really, really, bad audio quality (especially notifications). I still run it either way though but it almost makes me wish that I bought a Nexus phone lol.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
5.01 and Sense 6, I was leaning towards GPE. Now even with Sense 6 and the updated apps, I'm leaning towards sense but I still haven't tried a Sense 7 ROM.

I should do that right now.
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
Yeah I am stuck between sense 7 and gpe 5.1. Gpe 5.1 has far greater battery than 5.0. I'm using IC sense 7 right now and it's great on battery with everything working.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Have you tried ARHD? That's the one I usually prefer because it's closer to stock so usually less chance of problems or glitches.
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
ARHD 41.0 Sense 7 based is very unstable, however 34.1 is quite stable & excellent on battery.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I didn't know that, I switched to IC yesterday and everything seems to work great.
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
did the camera improve in low light on 5.1 gpe, did you get better pics?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I noticed no difference with the camera. I think when it comes to camera and audio quality, GPE is still far behind.
[One (M8) General] burnstine:
Dialer, updates and speed: GPE

But: i need RSAP support, which in only availaible in sense... :crying:
[One (M8) General] Hassan_Elyas:
I came from nexus5 and i love stock android. Sense is not my cup of tea.

i am running gpe rom :D
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
What's the fetish with the dialer in this thread?! Lol. I too came from nexus 5. This has been they only phone I've not seen a need to unlock yet.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Sense does a lot of things great, the dialer is not one of those things, it looks and feels horrible. Slightly better on Sense 7 and a bit of material design but still needs a lot of work. GPE on the other hand has a great dialer.
[One (M8) General] Vandam500:
I converted mines to GPE around 3 months ago. A few weeks ago I decided to go back to Sense since we had Sense 7. My goodness what a difference! On GPE I would always get some random lag and occasional stuttering. Sense 7 is so buttery smooth. Surprising how much faster it is than GPE lol.
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
Yeah it is nice, a lot of different sense 7 roms
[One (M8) General] Akhayev:
For me sense 7 the best ..I am using GPE now cos I like material design
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Ha! Recently started using the Google text app with sense..got to say, the heads up notification with the ability to quick respond without leaving the current app has me contemplating a conversion to gpe.
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Can anyone on gpe 5.1 tell me if anything major is broke or not working well. Any major deal breakers? I decided I don't use most sense features anyway and want my phone to act like a nexus again..I miss my nexus. How much worse is battery life than sense?
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
I'm on a converted 5.1 Gpe and not much of a difference on battery life. Maybe 20 mins less SOT or so
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Thanks for the reply. Does gpe phone app have.built in caller Id or.business search like my nexus did? I miss the total Google integration.
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
of course caller id is working perfectly. and this is the batrery usage today. no worse than sense. I will probably see 4+ hours of SOT easily.
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
this is the end of my battery.
[One (M8) General] gtfour88:
It's Sense all the way for me, ever since HTC Diamond 1. I used TouchWiz, GPE and LG's UI but Sense always gets my love.
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Thanks! Tomorrow will be my first full day. Today is set up day, those at always bad battery days. Did conversion last night. So far.. I love having my status bar back. In comparison though, sense is very polished.
[One (M8) General] Darkseth:
Prefer Sense.

I tried GPE like a week ago, one day later i restored my Sense backup.

Reasons i didnt like GPE:

- stock camera is bull**** (like, its really horribly bad. Interface sucks, and options suck even more). The sense camera app is by miles better, in any thinkable way.

I couldn't flash sense camera, because the flash itself had just no effect. flashed normally, but the camera wasnt there in app drawer. Main reason i went back.

- Email app is nice for my hotmail adress. GPE had no email app, so i had to use my Gmail app for my hotmail account. Worked, so np really.

- No blinkfeed. Best news app in whole android world.

- No silence mode (srsly google, that is bull****³.

- Felt like there were some bugs... like when pressing on Equalizer in "Apollo music app", it had literaly no effect.

Only thing i'm missing are some 5.1 lollipop-animations.
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
I'm loving the fluidity of gpe. Haven't used the camera yet, but I did not use many sense features to begin with, especially blunkfeed. I'm in no way saying one is better.. Coming from nexus I'm partial to stock. Sense has a few minor annoyances, as does gpe..lol
[One (M8) General] Damix2:
Which is faster and more stable? M8 on Sense 6, or GPE? Sense 6 has very fast animations, and grid multitasking which is responds immediately. I went to M8 from Nexus 5 on 5.1 and I miss the vanilla lollipop design but I'm afraid that it'll be slower than the ultra fast Sense with its animations. And what about the battery life?
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
don't you read a few posts back about battery life?
[One (M8) General] Tech_Savvy:
guys check out XenonHD in orignal dev sction....it's aosp 5.1.1 amazingly fluid and fast with tons of features....flashed v7 camera and gallery and sense 7 wont see me anymore....btw use nova launcher prime and a custom kernel.....blackbird of on from Holyangels afh hobby roms.....just sat all night and till noon the next day and didnt loose a single precent of battery!!!!
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
I just did the gpe conversion this week. Gpe IMO is way more fluid and has way less jitter than sense. It reminds me of my nexus 5. The gpe battery has been, in my usage the same, if not better than sense. Very happy I switched.

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I'm looking at that sense camera flashable zip.. How do you upgrade the next version if the ota won't work. Can you still manually flash it?
[One (M8) General] Tech_Savvy:
not sure how u mean upgrade to the next version?? if you mean rom just dirty flash...although i always clean flash....heres the flashable zip for the camera and gallery http://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/themes-apps/flashable-zip-gpe-htc-sense-camera-t3085044 they update themselves via playstore...
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
I don't ROM. I'm perfectly fine on stock gpe. I meant when an upgrade comes and ota is broke. Can manual flash work
[One (M8) General] Tech_Savvy:
yes i think so...if you have google play editon phone or if ur s-off
[One (M8) General] Damix2:
It's strange because I've heard that GPE is slower comparing to sense 6/7 based ROMs. Can you install apps on SD card on GPE by default?
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Slower, or more smooth? Sense dumps the animations, so of course it's "faster". Gpe gives me a much more smooth experience with zero lags or launcher redraws. Just turn animations off on gpe and it'll fly too
[One (M8) General] richii0207:
That's odd because GPE has the huge memory leak whereas HTC fixed it in sense.
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Haven't seen that issue yet. I'll keep my eyes open though... Nothing but smooth sailing
[One (M8) General] shafez:
Wile every one like the GPE Dialer, I hate it so much, I like everything else about GPE, Strange how people like and dislike things :)
[One (M8) General] richii0207:
Sense definitely because of functionality and exclusivity.

I'm not sure why people say one is smoother than the other. If any one of them is not "buttery smooth", then there's something wrong with your phone or apps. Heck, even my Droid X didn't show a hint of lag on GB...
[One (M8) General] Viper4713:
I am on Sense 7 IC, I really like it, but I also like GPE and or a Googleish experience, but GPE has certain features and opportunities missing, like no FM Radio, no Harman Kardon.

So this is the setup I use to try to get a GPE/Sense hybrid experience.

APPs:

Nova Launcher (Prime) (kept Sense Home so I can still edit the lockscreen shortcuts)

Google Calendar (removed HTC Calendar)

Google Chrome (removed HTC Browser)

GPE Dialer & Contacts(removes HTC versions)

Google Messenger(removed HTC Messages)

Material V4A(by me)

MODs:

Lollipop Status Bar/Settings/QS Icons

Circle battery with percentage available in IC Aroma

Lollipop GPE Navkeys

TIPs:

I have tried this but prefer not to use it, but if you remove HTCLockscreen you will be reverted to the GPE Lockscreen, I do not use it because the camera launch icon doesn't work with Sense camera unfortunately.

Use "Tilt" Accent Color in Sense 7 .
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
Great writeup Viper4713, I am currently back on Kitkat GPE but man I do really like Sense 7 as well. I like to venture out & test out everything, Lollipop did take a hit on battery thats why I went back to Kitkat to try & see how battery holds up. I tried IC Kitkat last week & the battery was looking to be excellent but I quickly changed back to Lollipop Sense 7.
[One (M8) General] Viper4713:
Have you tried GPE 5.1? I haven't even tried it yet, some say it fixes battery life issues.

I want full GPE but I just know I will miss H/K Clari-Fi.
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
Yeah I did, battery isn't as good as KitKat gpe. What version of IC did you flash?
[One (M8) General] Viper4713:
7.1.8, but I extracted the Settings.apk from r40 to remove the IC Market from System Settings sense it is no longer maintained.

If you want to try it, follow my steps from above to get as close to GPE as I have gotten so far :P

Also check out my signature for more device info :)
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
GPE 5.1 is grear at battery if you turn off GPS (only turn on when you need). I use 3G nearly most of the day, Google Now is On. Playing games like Clash of Clans, Fallout Shelter and Ingress, All day checking social media (Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Swarm etc), Whatsapp active 4-5 groups and 3-4 person.

I got 20-30hrs standby 4-5 hrs SOT.

Not bad for a power user like me

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[One (M8) General] starfq:
Sense 7
[One (M8) General] Viper4713:
Alright so I think I change my mind, I have switched to full GPE 5.1, I love it, I was on Sense 7 always trying to get a GPE feel, but I give up and cave in, I love GPE, I feel like I have a Nexus phone.
[One (M8) General] qbanlinxx:
Any issues with signal loss? I previously flashed a GPE rom and was constantly losing signal every few minutes.
[One (M8) General] Viper4713:
No issues what so ever, I was on 4.16.401.10 firmware with no issues as well but decided to switch to 4.04.1700.6(no HBOOT version) anyways to ensure full compatibility.

I am currently on DigitalHigh great ROM but it comes with a lot of sense junk I care less for, so I deleted all that stuff from System App and Priv-App folder because Titanium backup failed to on some apps strangely.

Also if you try out DH there is one issue I had where animation scale is stuck at x.5 but can be solved by doing this.
[One (M8) General] TBra:
Having previously owned the Nexus 5, I definitely preferred GPE/AOSP, so when I got my M8 back in March I flashed CM12 on it immediately. A few months later I thought I'd give Sense (ARHD) a go because I wasn't happy with the audio quality of the speakers with CM12. Turns out I enjoyed Sense a lot more than CM. I recently decided to try the CM12.1 Snapshot to see if the audio quality issue was resolved and give it another go, and sure enough it was, but I think I'll switch back to Sense pretty soon.

My only gripes with Sense are that the UI isn't very consistent in Lollipop (e.g. the Sense toggles and AOSP notification shade) and some of the core apps aren't as good (e.g. dialer and calendar).
[One (M8) General] greenchip01:
didn't really enjoy sense and switched to CM 12.1 which performs smoothly and provides battery life that gets me through the day, which was never the case with standard ROM.

Gesendet von meinem m8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] NextNexus:
+1