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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1ManWolfePack:
I'd say these threads get closed due to people not following the rules and advice of the mods.

The rules were laid out very simply and everyone was reminded of them on an almost daily basis. Yet people continued to post the same crap regardless of the warnings. Then the bickering. Then the epiphany moment where "why don't we try this??" - which was already mentioned and shot down ten times over.

That's why your thread got shut down. I wouldn't look much deeper. XDA doesn't like them because who is to say the full amount gets paid to the exploiter and what he/she would do if they did not?

I've been around a while and I've never seen anything like that thread. I'd advise talking with my pledge and observing silently IF it gets reopened.

Not trying to start any arguments, just stating my opinion on the matter.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Being the one that closed it (with recommendation and support by the rest of the mod team, and numerous contributors to the pool who complained and asked for more control of it), I can say it had absolutely nothing to do with any legal threat, or any outside pressure at all. XDA regularly covers exploits, they flew me to Miami to talk about exploiting devices, and I regularly publish exploits on XDA, which are covered by the XDA portal. Your reasoning is 110% wrong.

The reasons include but are not limited to:

a) posters could not follow guidelines laid out by op and mods

b) posters insulted and attacked each other

c) posters ignored mod warnings

d) posters mocked mod warnings

e) posters insulted and attacked mods

f) a number of blatantly fake pledges, totally a high dollar amount

g) total mod time consumed for a single thread was to high

XDA does not want to be responsible for such a thread, as the likely hood of fraud is rather high. As long as bounty threads are maintained in good order, they will exist. When they get ridiculous like this, they will cease to exist.

We are all adults, or almost adults (assuming everyone was honest when signing up), lets behave our age.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I'm unaware of any OEM or carrier that pays real money for bugs. I have provided a numerous bugs privately to all major OEMs and carriers at one point or another. I have received dinner, drinks, and occasional small trinkets ( Dear OEMs, my wife collects pens, and I enjoy wine); however this was mostly after meeting people in person at various cons, and not through some secret backdoor channel, and so far exclusively US based companies (being in the US, makes sense that I run into us based companies more often).

In order words, please direct me to these backdoor channels, as my son will be starting college soon.

edit:

as far as the source of roots, i'm going to disagree, most published Android roots do not come from external reports, most come from unique research on Android.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] spuniun:
Ok, I will admit I have no direct knowledge of mobile device OEMs having programs like this; I was speaking from my experiences working for a security firm that earned most of it's income from Microsoft for reporting exploits behind the scenes. I guess Samsung et al don't feel the security impact is significant enough to warrant similar reward for Android exploits, and they are likely correct compared to the impact that major flaws in Windows has on that brand.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I don't think it is Samsung at all, I think it is the mobile market in general. As mobile becomes more popular, and used for more sensitive things this will change. It is, effectively an arms race, but with the young age of mobile, there have been plenty of arms around. This is changing.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kilroy1stcav:
Jcase in your expert opinion due you think that the Verizon S5 will see root?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Could it? Absolutely possible that it could be rooted, its a computer.

Will it? I don't know depends on lot
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
anything is possible.. i think its a matter of time.. samsung n verizon are definately not perfect.. they must have slipped up somewhere! just a matter of finding it.. too bad i only know computers and dont know jack about phones to help
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
These phones are just computers, even running linux
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
I'm beginning to just deal with it. I'm also the type of person who gets a new device every 6-12 months. My GNex was the longest lasting device I've had since my OG Droid Inc. I probably won't decide on another device until end of year so. I'm sure im not the only person. To me as more time passes the less I care. Seeing as more and more devices are either being so locked down that they are taking longer to root/unlock many people may just go with the next big thing that can be. I don't care so much for the root/unlock as much as i care for the device to actually have a good dev community with a plethora of roms to try and kernels. Hence why I loved my Dinc/Tbolt (as sad as it was)/Gnex/S3. While I unlocked my Droid Maxx, the dev community never really took off. Most, and i use that term somewhat loosely, devices usually only see AOSP ROM variants and not many are based on the current stock OEM release. The crackflasher in me wants to see this device unlocked with a dozen or so various AOSP/OEM roms to try. But seeing as within 6 months time I may move on, i'm learning to deal.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Throw in the towel if you like that's fine. I won't be giving up my freedoms anytime soon here...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
I never said i was throwing in a towel. Just stating an opinion. If anything i'm just being very patient and relatively quiet, and wouldn't care too much if it happened or not.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
The or not part, is what I'm hitting at...

Edit: I just don't like the fact that they're trying to take control of something we created and then sell it to us... We created this community, cracking the O.S. and opening it up for tweaking and being able to uninstall things people don't need that suck up battery life etc... I don't want to have to pay for something I helped create that I didn't charge anyone for to begin with. I'm referring to the dev. edition that they're pushing by the way...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
I'm lost, what is it that you created exactly?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
He's saying that this community created the idea for a developer edition phone.

Further, he's saying that we shouldn't have to buy a developer edition phone and that we should just be allowed to unlock normal phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
That's not how I read his post at all. But I guess I don't understand your post either.

You have come to the conclusion that since "the community" came up with the idea for a dev edition device, that the normal device should be unlockable?

Is that really what you are saying?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
I am not saying that at all. But I believe that's what he was saying. More accurately that the dev edition shouldn't even exist.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Fair enough. Btw I have an idea for a flying car. If someone comes out with one, I better not have to pay for it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I'll tell you what, I'll copy this idea from you and then charge you for it so you're plenty happy and get what you want. Then anyone who says I'm wrong I'll make fun of by making some witty comment about an invention that I don't want to pay for...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1ManWolfePack:
You know what guys, if you want an unlocked phone, don't buy a phone from a company who has locked down their last two flagships. If you didn't know what you were getting yourself into than that's ignorance on your part. Nobody OWES you anything and this isn't your right.

You guys sound so entitled in here, like Samsung and the developers on xda owe you your birthright.

You guys sound like William Wallace in Braveheart, talking about "Freedom!" and all of this junk. Go buy an unlocked phone if you want one. If I was a dev and had a potential unlock, I wouldn't release it to this community. You guys are just digging your own grave with every post/thread.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I said I shouldn't have to buy a developer edition phone and pay them extra moneys to be able to do what I've done in this community for years now which is unlock my phone and get all the bloatware off of it. I said nothing about the developers on here at all... Don't put words in to my mouth please sir..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
You don't pay them "extra moneys". It's the same price as the locked down version. $600usd. Only difference is the carriers aren't selling them and subsidising them. But you still didn't answer my question, what have you done "for years"?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mexiken:
Jcase,

I just want to say thank you. For the tolerance you had in the Bounty Thread. I lost count how many times I wanted to check someone who was questioning your knowledge on root and exploits, but I always held back because I would only be derailing the thread more.

As a former mod on a now defunct Motorola mod website, and small time tweaker, general enthusiast and lurker even before that, I've had the privilege of meeting and making friends with lots of devs (some of which are now mods/site admins at this and other sites) and your name should be enough for most people, but apparently, they don't understand the landscape. I know it wouldn't be what it is today without your contributions. So I just wanted to say thank you, and remind you that all us users on XDA aren't that way, even though I have seen it gravitate towards that over the years. I and many others appreciate the chances you gave, the insults and attacks you tolerated, and just kinda hanging in there to lend an expert hand to see if anything panned out for those that were legitimately trying to advance the cause. It is not unnoticed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
If you would have read my post right above, you would know. I've helped people as well so don't act like I'm a no one when I've been here for three years active and longer lurking that's just self centered and rude and not really the community driven attitude that I'm used to seeing on here.

The price changed or people that I had read stating it cost $650 on here were wrong either way. My point still stands on the idea part of it and us all, starting this community and helping it thrive and grow.

Why do you want to defend the dev. edition so bad?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
I'm not acting like you're a "no one", I'm simply curious what you've created. I checked Samsung and it's $599. I'm not defending anything, I'm still trying to figure out exactly what point you are trying to make.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I just don't think that we should be forced in to a phone that has no support or updates mainly rather according to what I've read in regards to modem etc.. I'll take away the money argument for your sanity.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Now someone is forcing you in to something? What are you being forced to do?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Seriously, you're trolling me now. I'm done, the point stands we shouldn't be forced in to buying a dev. edition phone in order to be able to get rid of their bloatware and be able to tweak the phone to make it run even better then what it does now which is what we've always done in the past.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
you can disable ALL carrier, Samsung, and google bloat. if you had root and uninstalled it you wouldn't free up any internal storage due to the partitions.

so what are you trying to do that you can't do?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
someone is holding a gun to his head, forcing him to buy locked phones and forcing him to not disable carrier apps through settings->apps. Such a cruel world we live in, it's so unfair.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Troll hard young man, troll hard.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1ManWolfePack:
He's not trolling, he's just saying stuff you don't know how to respond to. He makes a valid point. Last I checked we're not in North Korea.

You can buy whatever phone you want. With the S4 and N3 locked down, logic should tell you the S5 will also be locked down. You made your choice and now you're complaining about it.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Don't treat me like I'm not a part of the community and I have no emotions and I can just be thrown around like a rag doll and laughed at. It's rude, is this the attitude that you want to show people you guys have towards people in the community, really? You would be fired from my work acting like that towards people just saying.

I don't like the fact that they're trying to sell us the dev. edition, which is them grabbing control of our community essentially. I want to be able to tweak my phone, not disable, uninstall. I know that the partitions stay there If I was to install another O.S. and that I would lose that space which I've never missed to be honest with you so yeah, I do know what I'm talking about thank you very much don't care so don't even bring it up and it's besides the point. I want them gone from my O.S. that I'm running. Leave me alone and quit quoting me and torturing me over and over again because my point still stands from two pages back minus one thing the money part.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
you speak of the "community" that your part of as having developed something that Verizon is now trying to sell you. what exactly was that?

"we" didn't develop the s5, a team of hardware and software engineers did. did they get inspiration from something here? possibly but that's the nature of open source.

which by the way, google did not develop android as open source for US, they developed it as open source for the OEMs to use and the basic caveats are that it features google apps (GAPPS as we know them). this was not some philanthropic act on their part to give a community something to grow, they did it for financial gain. a free architecture for OEMs to customize to suit their image and branding in exchange for an exponential growth in google search hits, app purchases, and media purchases.

its ALL done for financial gain.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
We aren't torturing you, your point does not stand, and you've yet to clearly explain your position.

Want an s5? Buy a locked one for $600

Want an unlocked s5? Buy one for $600 and mod away.

Don't like those options? Vote with your wallet and buy something else.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Shaffer678:
You guys love getting threads closed around here... Can't we all just get along lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I'm referring to the fact that without us they wouldn't be so popular, android phones that is and now they see the potential to grab control and lock everything down and at the same time offer us a phone at full price with no support at all what so ever after thirty days. I've never bricked any of my phones and I have a lot so no excuses there please.

Also T-Mobile didn't do this so yeah, no excuse sorry, they suck for this move.

I don't want to have to buy it, that's the point. Never had to before, don't want to now. Explained. Done right? Or would you like to keep trolling me?

This is two pages later going on three and you guys are still going at it with me, just stop now please, thank you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
you're not being trolled. you had the option to buy the unlocked boot loader Dev edition on your carrier, and didn't, and now you're complaining that your model is locked.

FWIW the S4 on ATT and VZW ALWAYS had a locked boot loader as well, it was just exploited early on.

so you feel owed or entitled to something you could've just bought from the get go...

and in response to your reply to my comment earlier, Androids popularity, contrary to your belief, has very little to do with us. it has everything to do with the fact that there are versions practically free whereas the iPhone has always cost quite a bit.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
You don't "have to buy it". You don't have to buy anything at all.

I'll search for some data, but I'm willing to bet the "tweaker and mod community" is less than 1% of android's user base.

You, we, "the community" are entitled to NOTHING. We created NOTHING.

Buy the device that suits your needs.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dlscott1111:
Agree that the dev edition is available and we are free to buy it. Thats logical and understood.

But another point (and the reason I won't buy it) in my humble opinion, is that if we only have a few dev edition owners compared to the masses of us with nondev phones, there will be scant little development and few roms to choose from.

If there was zero chance of root I still wouldn't buy the dev edition because there would be so little development/roms out there. Am I wrong?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Not wrong at all. Its unfortunate. My only point is we don't "deserve" nor are "entitled" do anything. If you want a device that has more dev activity, you should buy a different device.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dlscott1111:
Agree we don't deserve anything beaups. And forever grateful for the m7 work you did.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Thanks. Sometimes you get lucky with a locked device and the oem writes REALLY bad code. That's just not the case with Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Fun fact, the first android devices all had locked bootloaders.

Ppl complained, we got Dev devices. Ppl, OEMS started to offer unlocking of consumer devices where possible. Ppl still complain. They will no matter what.

Ppl complain that android is being closed source, but don't recall when it wasn't possible to even get stock firmware for nexus, or get bare proprietaries.

Ppl don't recall when gapps were partially built into the framework and you couldn't just build the android and have it work with gapps (it was effectively closed source).

Android, and devices are getting more open, more freedom to do what we want. Anyone telling you otherwise just doesn't remember the past, or is clueless.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
The way you guys were talking to me was out of line. You shouldn't sit there and say I have no clue what I'm talking about. Especially to me of all people because I do know a lot actually. That's being rude. I disabled all the crap services I could already trust me. I still stand my ground about the phone and it wasn't released the same day as the phone itself so yeah... I have it now don't I? THANKS VERIZON!

I still like to think that we helped grow this community and helped get more support for android because of it. I voiced my opinion to all of my coworkers when I was working as a server / network engineer at my work and we started seeing people using them more too. Other places I have voiced my support for android phones as well.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Please point me to a post where anyone told you "you have no clue what you are talking about". Show me where I said that and I will apologize.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1ManWolfePack:
Same. We're debating. I didn't throw any mud.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I know about partitions remaining behind etc.. I'm not clueless.

That doesn't seem harsh what so ever.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
When reason and logic fail, resort to gibberish. Love that strategy.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
He had originally stated which 1ManWolfePack had said he was right that the partitions would remain behind and I would lose the space... There I explained this one for you... Man... Wow... There it's below for you too.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1ManWolfePack:
"You don't like what you're hearing" - same meaning, different verbiage. Sorry if that offended you.

I just let it go, man (ironically watching Frozen for the 829th time with my daughter)

Sent from my HTC6525LVW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Ok, apology accepted? I understand I have four daughters.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Respond to the question.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
you're not wrong. you're 100% right.

what I don't really understand though is when people buy a gimmicky device like an s5 ( don't get me wrong, I love most of the gimmicks and touchwiz features), and flash a cyanogenmod base ROM on it. why spend the $$ for the s5 when a nexus will do everything asked of it in that regard.

I played with CM based Roms on s3, s4, various galaxy tabs, s3 mini, etc... I always end up back on touchwiz. always. I love the UI, the launcher features, the beautiful weather/clock widgets, all that stuff that makes it what it is.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
He had originally stated which 1ManWolfePack had said he was right that the partitions would remain behind and I would lose the space... There I explained this one for you... Man... Wow... There it's below for you too.

I want to uninstall the apps that I don't want completely or have another O.S. loaded one of the two not disable them.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mwshows:
I'm certain of one thing: To the few of you who state you are network specialist, programmers, or feel they are educated on the same level as others, I'm super excited you don't work for me.

To ALL the devs and moderators on XDA....

I feel for all of you!

My wife is due for an upgrade and this is the phone she wants. She's going to be sad I can't give her pink status bar icons LOL.

Sent From The Darkside of My N3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Yeah, I'm not wasting more time moderating "bounty" related threads when people don't act like adults nor follow the rules.

Foul language is not acceptable here.

Thread closed, future bounty threads will be closed without warning.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cobraboy325:
I got my phone fairly recently (unlocked) and now want to pair it with my HS820. The main problem is I dont know if I have this:

The ROM should be updated as latest AKU2 ROM. I havent done any ROM editing in fear of turning it into a brick. Any help with this would be GREATLY APPRECIATED

CB
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] weezy:
Hi, welcome to the forum. First place would be to start here:

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=4534

This thread was two or three under yours.

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=61937

And he would help you with alot of problems

http://xdaforums.com/search.php
[Galaxy S II HD LTE Android Development] dungphp:
Today I have fixed Hardware keys problem when compiled from Slimrom source - Rebinding the HardwareKeys

This rom ONLY for SHV-E120K phone !

Pictures:

Working:

- Think all

- GPS fixed in Slim 4.4.3 build 5.9

Not working:

- You tell me please !

Install:

- Take a nandroid backup

- Recommended - Full wipe and factory reset, Full wipe to install new ROM

- Flash ROM using recovery 6.0.4.7 Touch 6.17.8, Base Band (E120KKKMK1)

Download:

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[Galaxy S II HD LTE Android Development] cohort19:
thanks, working fine for me
[Galaxy S II HD LTE Android Development] harrisnehal:
Will this work on SHV-E110S?
[Galaxy S II HD LTE Android Development] dungphp:
GPS worked in your location ? or not ?

NO ! just for SHV-E120K only
[Galaxy S II HD LTE Android Development] cohort19:
GPS works fine for mine location...just its logo shows in status bar all time whether it is on or off .....otherwise fine

thanks again for your work....had tried all ur roms for SHV-E120K this one has worked best for me till now