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[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
Weird. I changed it to 0,0,1 and it showed the band 41 as 1, 25 as 2 then 26 as 3. Gonna try that now since I am on the edge of a clear tower. Thanks for sharing.

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Yes that is the default. You can download Nexus 5 Field Test from play store to change the priorities.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
no you see you see 0-3 when you click "view" and not edit.. when you click edit and enter your msl you only can choose between 0 and 1.. im lead to believe that since view doesnt require your msl its not giving you accurate info.. check it out
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
The moment 4.4.3 was available from Google I had it on my phone. maybe i read into something that wasn't there.Although I was in a spark area Tampa and Orlando I saw no icon telling me I have "sprints ultra fast speeds" (sarcasm) to the contrary it was bad.Before you say it like most yeah I know I'm on sprint (I've heard all the comments)
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
yea you wont see any icon or indication youre on spark because sprint never touches the os and doesnt place a silly spinning start icon like they did on the lg g2.. nevertheless even the g2 when its on b25 (normal lte) it shows the spinny crap anyways so its just a marketing thing really..

trust me if you have the bands enabled the n5 will pick the best one for you if its avalible.. ive been using spark for about 5 months now with the .15 modem and it works fine.. even better with this modem cause its picks up b41 better.

if youre not connecting to it its because its not aval on the towers near you.. sprint shows all of houston as a spark aval city but i can promise you theres only maybe a dozen towers that spit out b41
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
We won't have the spinning icon since these aren't sprint branded phones. Instead we will get the generic AOSP data icons. As long as it says LTE you're good. If you root, you can install Nexus 5 Field Test and it will tell you what band you are on. If its 26 or 41 then its working.
[Nexus 5 General] metallized:
If 0 was higher priority shouldn't all bands have priority 0 ?
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
depends.. what you want.. i set my b25 to a lower prority to so can have a better chance of getting b26 since b26 is likely way less congested.. and yes i know b26 has less bandwitdth but ive found its faster usually cause b25 is so crowded with every other non spark phone, myifi, etc...
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
I think I am just outside of band 41.. Set it to 1,0,0. Hopefully on the drive home from work I will notice it as I have like 3 clear towers within 10 miles of my house. :highfive:
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
you should get one of them.. ive noticed the new modem is much better at grabing b41 without needing an airplane mode but it isnt perfect.. there is a b41 tower right outside work :) yes i know jealous rright? :) but it sometimes dont connect to b41 but i noticed driving on I-10 there are a few b41 towers and it picks those up much better.

i get 50-60mbps on them,

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if you dont know this already *#*#33284#*#* and go to lte engineering to see what band youre on.. just an fyi
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
I use Nexus 5 Field Test. Let's you do all that in one click. Plus that Advanced LTE setting let's you change the priority without needing the MSL. Root required tho
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
thanks, do you notice if the priority acutally changes with that app? or is it placebo.. just wondering since it doesnt need an msl
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
Yeah it does. I made the changes you mentioned using the app, then went thru *#*#data#*#*, click LTE, Edit, entered MSL and the new settings was listed.
[Nexus 5 General] metallized:
I was talking about by default... All bands should have priority 0 not 1...
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
to be honest the priority settings for band seems to be a bit of a mystery for everybody considering when you view them they're totally different than what you set I play around with the priorities a lot I used to have good luck setting them to 0,1,1 but nowbwith 4.4.3 I have better luck with 1,0,0
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
spark working wonderfully here in Houston :)
[Nexus 5 General] flex360:
4MBps is nothing special to dance about
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
I'm going to install 4.4.3 again see . I've go to go back into a spark area tomorrow than I'll check and see the band's.Sprint don't fail me now.
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
If it was kbps then yeah it would be 4Mbps. This was done in kBps.. so roughly 40Mbps. Pretty good if you ask me... Actually you are correct in it being 4MBps.. but you got your bytes and bits mixed up.

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Nice speeds!
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
So you notice a nice difference, what was your down and up on stock 4.4.2?
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
Best I could get was 3-5 Mbps down and 1-2 up. With the new radio, I was finally able to hit band 41 and was seeing 15-20 Mbps.. so definitely an improvement. Gonna do some fine tuning on the band priorities and see what I come up with once I get more in to the city (San Antonio).
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
That's 5 and you're a sprint user too..you'd certainly say that's miles better than the typical sprint late of half a meg

Besides I was more trying to point out the b41 and constant coverage and speeds. Most I've ever got in b41 was 77mbps but since this new modem those days are probably over since more epeopl will now be on it

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He used a big B so he's right buy he's being cynical cause that's clearly 5
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
Yeah I noticed that.. I had edited my post ;)
[Nexus 5 General] Koopa777:
No one understands that all internet speeds are done in bits?! 4MB/s is fantastic, what are you people on about? Hell, 500Mb/s fiber is only about 61MB/s...
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Back on 4.4.3 band 25 priority 1

Band 26 priority 1

Band 41 priority 1

Is that normal?
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
Yes that's what you get when you do a profile update and it changes your priority back to all 1s

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that's what I'm using right now actually and I'm getting good b 41 connections
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
So basically depending on my area and my coverage is how I should set them?That's the settings config that showed up after going back to 4.4.3

Normal basically.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
Of you leave them all at 1 you will get b26 and b42 if they are avalible simple as that really.. They aren't as avalible as their map would suggest...trust me
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
I thought b25 and b41 was spark bands for sprint?How do I enable them or do they turn on automatically when in that area.Is there a waynto enable a specific 3g band that is strongest for my area and enable a stong 4g band for my area and set them to a priority level.if so how do I search or scan for them,,,,,,

P.s ive hit my thanks limit for the day or your last 2 posts would've been thanked by me.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
Nope b26 and b41 are spark bands b25 is sprints standard late band. And there is no way to force a particular band at least not yet but you can force 3g instead of late by changing your network mode to 3g from lte or global
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Oh well,I stay away from global it seems to fry my battery.i stay on 3g at home for use with my air rave. Than switch to lte in my vehicle.
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
My phone really loves to hang on to band 25. I got band 41 for about a minute a bit ago then I went outside and it switched to 25. Lol.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
Yea band 25 is really unsaturated but there are far fewer b41 towers this newest modem is def better at getting b41 but you still have to be in a strong b41 area or else b25 will just stay on

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Yea the fact that you need an airwave suggest your unlikely to get late but what's your zip? I'm fortunate enough to get b25 and b26 in my house but that was only until recently with their upgrades
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
32763 is my zip...me and [MENTION=218907]sprint[/MENTION]care go back and forth about my garbage in home coverage... In my town its so 3g/4g spotty it numbing..however 3g is strong
[Nexus 5 General] lalakersfan88:
i'm in the 92683 zip code and i'm stock everything on my N5, but i've gotten into my LTE engr settings and changed 25, 26, 41 for 26 and 41 priority first then 25. however, i don't think my area has any other band besides 25...can anyone that live in my area confirm or deny that or direct me to where i can find about my sprint area's lte coverage besides sprints coverage map?

thanks!
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
Well their coverage map shows where Spark is available. Its widely available in your area. In theory, you should be seeing other bands as well. But its still rolling out so some towers may not be as stable as others within the area.
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
While waiting in line for my food I noticed j was in band 41.. Needless to say Spark is looking promising.
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
I am jealous.my signal/data dropping/handoff has been all over the place.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
Honest to me the best thing about spark is b26... B26 actually has faster spwwss because its far less congested than b25 but the building pen and crowded areas and inside work and home are so wonderful I finally get lte everywhere
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Hopefully when I move this month to Denver signal will be better. Plus I heard fiber is there.

Back to the update. My 3G when have it is better. :/
[Nexus 5 General] Evo_Shift:
I first noticed this last night. I have an airave in my house and previously could only kind of get LTE on band 25 outside. When I would go inside it would connect to the airave. Now I am getting band 26 and about 2 to 3 bars inside my house and even 0-1 bars but it stays connected in my basement. Now, I never connect to the airave even if I reboot the phone in the basement right next to the airave.

I kind of don't like that in a way since I use wifi anyway and would prefer the full bars of the airave to save battery but oh well. Maybe when my wife upgrades to a phone that supports band 26 we will be able to get rid of the airave all together.

One thing I am not sure of is what happens if I get a phone call while in my basement connected to band 26. I though the Nexus 5 had to hand off to 3G or whatever when making and receiving calls. It seems weird it would remain connected to band 26 if it is then not able to switch to make calls.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
technically regardless of what band you are on even if you're on 3G and you receive a phone call your data will disconnect quickly and you'll just be on CDMA voice since the Nexus 5 only has 1 radio it doesn't support data while in a phone call

most other phones that were used to on Sprint have separate radios for voice and data which was why they could support data while in a call not for the Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
sorry everyone let me just rub this in a little bit more :) :) ;)
[Nexus 5 General] ilostmypistons:
deakelem. That's 5 times faster than I've ever had and I'm in a turbo spark zone :what:
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Unless your air rave has newer firmware than mine,it'll only connect full bar to 3g.The

Airrave will fight for signal if you have anything other than 3g enabled at home.Thats from a technicians mouth.than battery drain etc etc
[Nexus 5 General] tomh1979:
1 thing i noticed, and it has never done this before the 4.4.3 update, now when i make or recieve calls, when i hang up or end the call it goes into the data setting all by it's self, with also showing a error message in the notification bar saying i lost data, why the hell did they add that crap in, lol.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
I wonder if that's actually part of the data profile provisioning that you get when you activate with Sprint just like when you update your profile because my htc one used to say the same thing but I've never seen that before on a Nexus device

actually I haven't even seen it on my Nexus yet ever
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
I hate you lol
[Nexus 5 General] lalakersfan88:
I need to move to Houston.. That lte speed is insane!
[Nexus 5 General] conquereddroiduser:
4.4.3. With a nice band 41 site on my way to work.
[Nexus 5 General] the.emilio:
Nice. What app is that?
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Im not the type of member that says go use x rom.However installed twrps app in the play store since there is newer version than what xda shows.Anyway I say all that to say this,ive been struggling since the 4.4.3 update with everything. I am now on latest omni 4.4.3 and have no issues with anything.Banks latest Gapps 4.4.3 package.might work for you.
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Rub it in more and more....
[Nexus 5 General] conquereddroiduser:
Sensorly
[Nexus 5 General] :
100% stock, not rooted and the handoffs from call back to LTE have been flawless. Not in a spark area so I can't comment on that but I'm very happy with the OTA so far.
[Nexus 5 General] JohnnyMontana_:
I consistently get b26 in the Atlanta area. I've yet to see b41 anywhere around here. Is b26 spark? The reason i ask is I'm getting the same speeds as before. Averaging about 20 down. Even got these speeds on my HTC M7 sprint. Which wasn't spark capable at all. I've set my priorities as well. I'm not super impressed atm. I want those 50+ speeds!!
[Nexus 5 General] david279:
Band 41 is spark ?
[Nexus 5 General] conquereddroiduser:
Sprints Band 26 has the same capacity as their band 25, with a peak of around 37 down. It's advantage is significantly better coverage and less users on it (for now). Band 41 is where you will see the big speed bump.
[Nexus 5 General] metallized:
Band 26 is good... Band 41 is awesome....
[Nexus 5 General] khmervision:
Your right about band 41 got this earlier
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
band 26 and 41 are spark bands.. b25 is normal lte 1.9ghz b26 is 800mhz (the old nextel frequency) and b41 is 2.5ghz clearwire high speed band.

In houston there are nearly as many b41 towers as there are b26 but i can tell you that your request of getting 50mbps is easily done when on the b41. Look back a few pages there should be some screenshots of mine showing more than that.

give it time, every month out here in houston i find another tower that now has b41 its just a bit of a process because those backhuals need to be expanded because of the huge potential that 2.5ghz band has.

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band 26 too
[Nexus 5 General] EvanA:
No, band 26 is just another deployment of the standard 5x5MHz FDD that band 25 uses. Band 26 is lower frequency to provide better coverage inside and in areas where 25 doesn't reach. Band 41 is what Sprint refers to as spark, and it is only in the top 100 markets. Band 25/26 are being deployed nationwide with a few exceptions for 26 around the international borders.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
right well sprint spark has been adverstised from the start as having high capacity (2.5) and better building pen (800mhz) not to mention all the lte phones before spark only had b25 connectivity and the sprint spark phones when released had access to all 3 bands soo idk. sprint considers the b26 as part of their tri band aka spark
[Nexus 5 General] EvanA:
A PSA for people messing with band priorities: it doesn't matter. Band priorities only matter for the first scan out of airplane mode and transitioning from 3G. Once the phone connects to LTE the network has control over what band you connect to. In addition, band 41 is always prioritized by the network over 25/26 when it is available.
[Nexus 5 General] david279:
Spark is just b41. Triband is just the 3 bands working together.
[Nexus 5 General] EvanA:
Nope that's not how it's advertised. The press kit for spark says "Sprint Spark is a super-high-speed capability offering 50-60 Megabits per second (Mbps) peak speeds today with increasing speed potential over time." Band 26 does not deliver those speeds.
[Nexus 5 General] lalakersfan88:
How do I check which band I am on now. My Nexus field test app won't let me check since I'm not rooted.
[Nexus 5 General] david279:
Go to the engineering screen in the dialer. *#*#DATA#*#*
[Nexus 5 General] flex360:
i decided to ditch sprint over the weekend

and what a difference in quality of service. no more toggling airplane mode to get back to 4g

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*#*#33284#*#*

then go to LTE engineering
[Nexus 5 General] lalakersfan88:
Thanks
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Who'd you switch to?
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
likely tmo, ive thought of this too until my boss got the n5 on tmo and compared to the n5 on sprint in houston the tmo service is a joke.. i know sprint hasnt been much better in the past but its gotten a lot better out here. my boss has weird issues with his radio and lte on tmo just like i do on sprint. When i was in the northeast for work back home in NY i never had to toggle airplane mode and what not so it def because of the towers
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
I've been ready that tmo customers are struggling with hand off and data drops...Makes me feel less like a imp with sprint.Now that tmo has some issues.
[Nexus 5 General] testinguser:
The irony is that despite him switching from Sprint to T-Mo, Sprint is buying T-Mo so he will be back with Sprint :) :laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
yea but something tells me the ftc wont let it go through.. i know they are number 3 and 4 i just think that they will block it.. and it will prob end up hurting sprint since they likely signed an agreement to pay tmo x numbers of dollars if the deal fails.

just like att had to do with tmo back when they tried to merge. but if they do merge im excited to see how big the network will be when its all said and done
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Sprint needs all the help they can get.(signed by a sprint pissed customer,who sent this from my tablet since my N5 has no signal)
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
i used to be that customer too.. but in the past few months the sprint coverage and speed and just awesomeness in houston and its surrounding areas is amazing.. finally.. i should say

even when i go home to New York once in a while i have great lte coverage in my home town (small upstate ny town)
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
Truth be told I get great 3G Sometimes mind blowing LTE.

However those moments are like females and there changing moods.I am back in 4.4.2 because after I updated. I had nothing all the "bugs" regarding handoff and data drops that didn't really effect me prior. Crippled my phone.Since I'm tech support for my family and friends. Everyone is back on 4.4.2...(I got sick of hearing my dad say "even though needed to use my glasses to see my iPhone screen,I didn't have this problem")
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
yeah sounds like it's just some growing pains with Sprint spark and what's going to happen is eventually it's going to get all worked out and be wonderful but that iPhone is still not going to work on spark and it still always going to be an iPhone
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
You have no idea(maybe you do)what kind of ordeal it was to get my dad in 2012 to go from a flip to "smart phone" his wife talked him into it. I managed 7 friends and family to N5's...Trying to teach his stubborn ass was almost not worth it...I agree all the sprint haters will drop that hate in about year(gulping) when we are good.
[Nexus 5 General] avlon:
If I may ask, what bugs were you experiencing?

After the upgrade to 4.4.3, I get great LTE speed when connected to a Spark tower and almost everything works. However, there is one SERIOUS bug. When I attempt to call out, whether it's voicemail or a regular phone call, I lose all network connectivity for a few minutes. The Nexus then spits out "Out of service area" error. It only happens on Sprint. This is without fail. Tech support was clueless on the issue (though they did really try their hardest to help) but it got so bad that I had to switch back to my Note 2 in the meanwhile.

Tested it with my fiance's MetroPCS connection over the last few days, and no problems with her service.
[Nexus 5 General] habitformer:
My issues are my connection. I drop all data randomly, However I found toggling airplane mode is quick fix.

If "tech support"didn't already tell you to but,Update your prl and profile.Also I found that being on global causes me more 3g/lte

Handoff issues (hangs in limbo between towers)I depending on my location I switch to LTE if I get it but normally I stay on 3g.

Also I installed the latest P.A with latest PA Gapps and have no issues anymore.

Seems the PA team fixed what sprint couldn't. Go figure.
[Nexus 5 General] avlon:
That definitely sounds very similar to my issue. Considering how long they have been "dogfooding" this release, and how long it took to get it out considering the past bugs, I am simply amazed that this made it out as an OTA.

I also noticed that the "Global" setting caused the most issues. Keeping the "LTE Recommended" helped somewhat with the data portion, but once I initiated any type of connection with the dialer, data would completely drop. Sadly, 3G did not resolve that issue, and I was stuck with an abysmally slow data connection.

Tech support had me update PRL/Profile as well (which I had done on my own anyway) and I even factory reset the phone to no avail.

I haven't ROM'd this phone yet (as my fiance is still testing it with MetroPCS for a few days) but it is interesting to read that the PA teams Rom has no issues. Hopefully, Google quickly gets another update out that fixes these terrible bugs.