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[G2 General] Skizzy034:
I don't know where you're getting that information from lol. If anyone would notice just the littlest imperfection, it would be me. I have OCD. Medically diagnosed and its the absolute worst thing to ever go through. I don't wish it on anyone.

I guarantee you, there was no ghosting/burn-in on any of the 3 Note 3's that I had. It was one of the first things I checked, along with dead pixels, lightbleed, etc. I even tried to get it to ghost but it wouldn't.

Also, a store model shouldn't be used to judge all the other devices of that version. They are on all day long, constantly being used. Who knows what problems were caused by people mishandling the devices. My friends gf has an S5 and loves it. No problems so far with hers.

Samsung haters are becoming just as bad as Apple haters lol. Just because it's from Samsung, it couldn't possibly be a good device.

I was planning on picking up an S5 but instead decided to go back to the G2. I always research the devices before I buy them for known problems that may but the hell out of me, but I haven't seen one thread or article about lightbleed on the S5, or even the Note 3 for that matter.
[G2 General] Formhault:
So... there you go... it's not an issue, lol. :confused: :eek:
[G2 General] :
The main reason why you haven't read anything is the s5 is how many months old? It was released a few months back. I have read about s5 users a few actually that had that issue. Samsung has been going down hill ever since the implemented Knox. That's why there are Samsung haters like myself. They take away the fun that Android is meant to me. Customizable!! Samsung is exactly like apple. To me and I believe many others the reason we have android is for customization. If we cant flashed, or mod then in my book it's not worth getting just because it's a flagship!!! That's why you see companies like 1+1 coming out. They are thinking about us users and having pure Android experience and not having to worry about knox.
[G2 General] Formhault:
I have OCD, too. Not medically diagnosed (is it possible? lol), but still, I'm a maniac when it comes to colour consistency :).

So, for that... the G2 is my remedy. This IPS is so much better... well, my OCD still kicks in when I read something at an angle (so the white is yellowish on the top side, not white as on the bottom side... depending how I hold the phone, you know), but it's SO MUCH BETTER than the AMOLED shtuff...

It's mostly about color consistency, more than ghosting and dead pixels. An AMOLED will never be able to produce the same ammount of white color that it produces in X part of the screen, in Y part of the screen as well. And usually, it's the grays that get hit the hardest... :(

Store models are on forever, I know. But still, seeing a Galaxy S5's screen acting up after just 2 weeks of exposure (12 hours a day) pretty much racks up to... I dunno... 1~2 months of heavy usage (6 hours a day), don't you think? :p

I'm no hater. I used to bash Apple, but now I don't. They do things nice. Different, but nice. Still, not enough to catch me in their web, especially for that price point.

I don't hate on Samsung neither. I just hate the reps from the service center. The girl there (attendant? I dunno how to call her... I think the word is 'rep', lol) said the screen is fine (no it's not, check out 6 display models you got here, 3 are fine, 3 are f`ed up). Same goes for the power button (it was at an angle... not exactly as sturdy as it should) and the crackling speaker. Luckily, I had a friend with me who had another Galaxy S4. Until I put both phones in their hands, 4 Samsung Service center reps failed to admit my phone had issues :). For that, I can't NOT hate on them.

The S5 looks like a nice piece of plastic (that's what it is, but it's nice). Still, not a worthy upgrade from the S4. I guess I'll just wait until AMOLED gets even better, and they drop the 16GB standard. Come on, we need 32GB as the low-end. We don't have to pay $10/GB, for crying out loud, flash storage is extremely cheap you guys.
[G2 General] wulsic:
And now they answered this and i will stop asking cause i think the answer will be the same about the Black lines on screen.

We can never say with 100% certainty that it's not going to occur. It will also greatly depend on the use.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
I do agree 100% about their decision to lock their devices down now. It's bs and extremely frustrating.

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Uh yea. Read "Brainlock". It'll give you all the information you need. If you only knew what I go through on a daily basis.. Lol it sucks. =/

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I can't figure out why only one US carrier is offering the 3gb ram and 32gb G3.
[G2 General] :
I to do the research make sure my device is rootable, and flashable. If not I dont give it a time of day unless i keep it straight as google which note 4 does sound promising lol.
[G2 General] Formhault:
The Note 3 didn't work out quite okay. I mean I saw some guys in the S4 community complaining about the lack of development on the Note 3... hope it not gonna be the same for the next itteration of Samsung phablets...

We're derailing off-topic here. Way too much. OCD's about screen consistency is fine, I guess (it's screens, afterall). :silly: :silly:
[G2 General] NxtGenCowboy:
I actually had this happen today and I am on dr87's TWRP.

I flashed a 4.4 PAC rom.. Rebooted.. Saw that crazy boot which I've seen before.. Then rebooted again and lines were there.

Blah.
[G2 General] thenorm89:
Can confirm the issue with my d800, woke phone from sleep to check a message and to my surprise... Some notes, im not a really heavy gamer, casually play clash pf cland and thats about it. Was rooted using ioroot, and had twrp installed using autorec. Other than that i was pure stock and the only thing i flashed wad cloudys g3 keyboard port.

Brighter note, called att and had 140 days left on warranty and that i could bring it in and have it replaced. Returned to stock flashing tot throigh download mode and returned the phone for a new. No questions asked, the rep looked at the phone and said it happens and replaced it. So all is well.. I think they may of extended my warranty as well? Not sure on that though.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
They let you exchange it at an AT&T store? Usually the warranty department sends out a replacement and you have to send the defective unit back to them.
[G2 General] thenorm89:
Att has device support centers that do everyyhing in person. Google it, maybe one close by your area. Its not the same as a retail store.
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
Using his twrp with thermal hotplugs enabled? Also, can you link that specific rom? Is it the official Paranoid Android?

We should get a list going of every rom people have flashed and have had the lines defect after. I honestly think it has to do with however the rom is built, i.e. commits, etc.

Some roms are being flashed over and over and no one is having that problem, and some are mentioning the problem after flashing other roms. Those roms have been mentioned more than once.
[G2 General] Formhault:
Does that PAC ROM have the CAF-new display driver commits?

Also, how old is your phone?

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140 days left on warranty... Sounds like your phone is pretty old (~17 months old).
[G2 General] JRJ442:
The G2 has a 1 year warranty. Not 2. So his was a little over 7 months old. The release date for the very first variant was August 2013 I think.
[G2 General] Formhault:
1?! Not 2?!?! :eek:
[G2 General] Michalko5896:
2 in EU.. :good:
[G2 General] JRJ442:
US is 1 year from all I've read.
[G2 General] Roseysdaddy:
1 year at att us.
[G2 General] thenorm89:
Purchased in November of 2013
[G2 General] easyguy:
Please try to keep up. We have been through this many times. The problem is not rom specific! There is a already a spreadsheet for record keeping in the OP post.

Why would he use Dr. TWRP without enabling that feature? Might as well use any other recovery.

Let me repeat myself again, the problem is not a software issue, but its hardware. If it is not broken, dont fix it.

I understand people wanting to be proactive, more power to you, but up until now I have not seen any of the theories pan out. This is out of our control people.

Someone who disagree with me, prove me wrong.
[G2 General] :
lol, how do you explain the proximity of cases around a specific rom and version of it. There was definately a relation there.

I agree nothing definitive has come out yet. but that was never gauranteed anyway.

what does trouble me is you propose others to use any recovery, even those without dr fixes. Heat does harm. So why not take every precaution necessary to at least not get thermal damage, which in itself is likely
[G2 General] Formhault:
In all 10 Android devices I previously owned... heat was not an issue. Even extreme temperatures did not lead to any failure. The Galaxy Note 1 got untouchable hot once (CPU at 100 degrees, trust me, it DID get that hot - the glass burned my fingertip ffs) and just rebooted itself. No damage done... except for my finger. So... I dunno... Temperature causing issues? It can't lead to issues unless something was not done right. And in this case, I think LG f'ed up something here... :(
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
And you know that's a fact how? I don't think anything can be ruled out. We have NO idea what exactly is causing it. It could be software, hardware, or both. I have been keeping up and I also saw the spreadsheet data. There is hardly enough input to decide one way or the other.

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Right. I don't think it's totally a heat issue. I had the G2 for awhile when it first came out and this was not a problem then. The first I ever heard of this happening was when I went back to the G2 a couple weeks ago. It seemed to start happening after 4.4 was released for the device, and on specific roms.
[G2 General] :
sure starting to seem that way
[G2 General] jl10101:
I'm new to the G2 (just got it this past weekend, so hello all!)

I have been following this thread, and for me, I don't really see how it can be heat (this is a personal view) because after gaming, running benchmarks and monitoring the CPU temperature hit close to 80c, I just can't see how full power in a benchmark can't reproduce this, but "full power" in the recovery can.

Perhaps it has something to do with custom recoveries? Maybe they are setting things wrong or using incorrect blobs? I'm no pro, so these are wild ideas, but I sure do hope we get to the bottom of this because I am terrified to flash CM11 (which I really want to), so for now I am on full 4.4 stock :rolleyes:
[G2 General] Formhault:
Well, hello! I got the G2 last Friday :D

Well, at 80 Celsius degrees, thermal throttling kicks in, so that the CPU doesn't go even hotter. In recovery (normal TWRP, for example), thermal throttling is not enabled, so all 4 cores can fire up at 2.3 GHz for a long time. dr87's TWRP mod does have thermal throttling so that the CPU doesn't melt. It still is blazing fast, though, so I don't see why thermal throttling wasn't on in the first place in normal TWRP![/QUOTE]

If you've read the OP and saw the Google Docs graph, you'd know it's not only custom recoveries / ROMs that cause this. + the past 2-3 pages of this thread... There are people who were COMPLETE STOCK and got the black lines :eek:
[G2 General] Christian Nothing:
Hey welcome to g2 , remember me , hihi the neatrom ???

If u wanna be sure of anything go test ur screen to see what panel u have to be sure of it ?

Sent thru my beastly LG G² using Tapatalk⁴
[G2 General] Formhault:
No. No. So much no.
[G2 General] Christian Nothing:
What?

Sent thru my beastly LG G² using Tapatalk⁴
[G2 General] Formhault:
There are people who reported lines appeared on their devices when... basically not doing anything. Like this guy right here. And this guy, who was using a TWRP that was allegedly safe.

For what we know, it could be a software issue, a hardware issue... or a combination of the two. We know nothing for sure! :(

So you can't just hop in and claim that LGD displays are okay, while those with JDI are f***ed up. Especially not after what's been discussed in the past 80 pages of this thread... :cyclops:
[G2 General] Christian Nothing:
Well i think.....

Nothing.

It seems everyone has its own habit with the phone , that's why the lines appear at some users and not to others.

The first guy used the normal twrp and his old g2 got the lines later as you've noticed yourself and the second guy used that modded twrp which caused immediately the lines after an reboot.

Sent thru my beastly LG G² using Tapatalk⁴
[G2 General] theCroh:
It's just amazing how confident some people can be with their opinions on this subject where we have absolutely no conclusive evidence about anything at all. This issue has surfaced on multiple ROMs and recoveries including total stock, with and without excessive heat. On the other hand it's also proven that extreme heats outside of recovery seem to have no effect (not sure if someone got the lines playing something, though). If it was just a heat issue, thermal throttling in recovery would get rid of the problem but as we just witnessed, it doesn't. It's unfair to state "truths" about this issue to people coming to search for answers when there in reality is only speculations.

Lähetetty Nexus seiska 2013:sta Tapatalkilla
[G2 General] Formhault:
There is a report of one guy getting temporary black lines on the screen after an intense gaming session... allegedly (I haven't seen the report) :eek:
[G2 General] jl10101:
Gosh, I sure hope I haven't picked the wrong device to get a nice clean stable CM11 experience on :crying:
[G2 General] Christian Nothing:
Do the test first and see what type of panel u have so you'll know what type of kernel to use ?

Sent thru my beastly LG G² using Tapatalk⁴
[G2 General] Qix84:
Any noticed this :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2499633
[G2 General] Compass Linux:
There is no need to worry if you're under warranty.

Flash at will and if you do get the black lines, restore to stock using a TOT (you might want to check the return to stock procedure before flashing a Custom ROM). Flashing a TOT will wipe the root checker, so there is only win! :victory:.

Compass.
[G2 General] Roseysdaddy:
If you've read the OP and saw the Google Docs graph, you'd know it's not only custom recoveries / ROMs that cause this. + the past 2-3 pages of this thread... There are people who were COMPLETE STOCK and got the black lines :eek:[/QUOTE]

Can you point me to dr87 twrp? I can't seem to locate it.
[G2 General] Compass Linux:
It's in the OP. :good:

Compass.
[G2 General] Formhault:
I've seen a G2 Mini in a store which had this issue. HTC One X, too. A bunch of phones have that problem, actually. Luckily, my G2 doesn't :).
[G2 General] siankatabg:
And this is also interesting:

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g2/help/major-screen-issues-warranty-repair-t2801603

Maybe this is the new batch of LG screens? My phone got the same vertical lines like in the thread and i buy it month ago(my device product date from the lg site is 31 march 2014).

Or this is the difference between LGE and JDI display?

Some pics that i found of the other type of displays(maybe the old batch?) :

One more interesting thing that i found when i search for pics.

Look at the images below,I dont think that heat can damage the display cable(you can see on it that this is rev.1.0 display :) ),because its not so near to the cpu(This is the digitizer cable,my fault).And if the display connector got damaged,I think that service guys will change the board(because socket for the display is soldered there),not the display.Maybe its really a display fault?

P.S.-Sorry if you can't understand me,my English is bad :(
[G2 General] NerdFurgison:
Could the issue have anything to do with using the hacked jb boot loader on kk roms. The issue seems to have been prevalent after kk. Did anyone get black lines with kk boot loader stock recovery and stock rom? In other words bone stock
[G2 General] Roseysdaddy:
Any idea why i get this error??
[G2 General] siankatabg:
Read post 825.
[G2 General] Formhault:
I don't see where it says LGE rev1.0. :eek:

And your English is fine :)

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825? Are you sure? :silly:
[G2 General] Skizzy034:
Those are the digitizer touch points. They have nothing to do with the damages people are getting with the lines. Every G2 has that "grid."
[G2 General] Compass Linux:
Not sure.

Which recovery are you currently using?

Maybe you need twrp-2.6.3.3 or twrp-2.7.0.0 (both official) in order to flash @dr87's version?

I read something about the official twrp-2.7.0.0 not being lokified (can't tell you what lokified means). :confused:

Perhaps someone else can be more of an assistance.

Compass.
[G2 General] siankatabg:
Ye.Some peoples got black lines on fully stock.

Quote from 825 post:

"There are people who were COMPLETE STOCK and got the black lines "

P.S.-rev.1.0 is the digitizer(second pic,on the cable with blue "JM"),this is my fault...

Ye I'm sorry,this really is the digitizer connector :( Where is the dispay connector then?I cant find it...

And I mean the grids are not the same:
[G2 General] Formhault:
My G2 doesn't have them. Well, it does, actually, but they're really not easy to see (even for my trained eyes :) ). I could see them the first day I got the G2 (no screen protector on), in powerful sunlight and mostly on white images. I can barely see them now, but I have a screen protector on which adds some rainbow effect (it sucks, really, especially if light hits it at a certain angle).

Oh, actually, I can see the lines. I just turned the brigtness al the way up and entered the Settings menu. The vertical lines are very visible (only if I look for them specifically, if you know what I mean).

Anyway, it doesn't look as bad as the phone of that guy in that thread. Yeah, that thread. I'm just gonna say "that", again. Just so that I say that again. Too many that's.

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I AutoRec`ed (lol) and was able to flash dr87's TWRP afterwards straight away. :confused:

And AutoRec installs TWRP 2.7.0.0, right?

Oh and Lokified means it can flash anything even on a locked bootloader... RIGHT?! :eek:

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Redownload the file and flash it again. Maybe the download is corrupt?

Also, make sure you download the recovery for your specific version. You don't wanna flash the D800 variant on a D803, for example. So... triple check :).

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Oh... quote in quote. Yeah. Nevermind :silly:

Isn't the digitizer soldered to the display, which is soldered to the glass panel?

And of course, the connector is on the display part (which is on that 3-part assembly), which goes into the display socket (which is on the board). Who knows, maybe just the connector gets damaged (and ultimately, the screen), while the display socket (which, again, is on the main board) is fine?
[G2 General] daryelv:
You have the recovery from AutoRec, correct? The aboot is a slightly different version than what the loki tools are expecting. Either manually update the aboot partition to the correct matching version for the loki tools (flash Recovery immediately afterwards) or update the loki tool in the recovery zip to match the version on your phone.

Edit: To manually see the problem... extract the loki tools from the Recovery you're trying to flash to /tmp on your phone and run loki_flash or loki_patch. It should give you what the current version is and what the supported version is.

Edit2: I just looked at dr87's custom Recovery, it should do the aboot update using a dd command. Make sure you have his latest 2.7.1.0 zip.

-Daryel
[G2 General] Formhault:
Okay. I no longer know what Loki is. This is entirely f***ed up to me right now. Loki tools? Aboot? I'm just gonna back away slowly... :silly:

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Mine looks more like the first picture. But the lines really aren't THAT visible. Especially not in direct light. They're more visible on white backgrounds that are powerfully lit.
[G2 General] easyguy:
Oh gezz we are having these arguments over and over again.

How do you explain other roms who claimed they did not add this commit or that commit to have the same issue, how do you explain stock roms getting the issue, if it is a SPECIFIC rom, no other roms should be getting the issue.

I dont know why it is troubling you? people have mentioned that using Dr. recovery and ending up getting lines. We have used "regular" recoveries for months without issues. My phone doesn't heat up when in recovery, doing whatever I wanted to do. Now if my phone heats up EVERY time I'm in recovery than we can somewhat contribute that as a contributing factor.
[G2 General] NerdFurgison:
If it's happening on pure stock I would say it's a moot point discussing it. Has to be hardware related
[G2 General] siankatabg:
Mine too are not so bad like in the pic's.Like you say,I can see them only if i want :D . When did you buy your G2? Maybe really there is a change in the digitizer(maybe lcd too) in the new batch of G2's.
[G2 General] Formhault:
I don't know where I bought it from. I bought it from a guy, who bought it from another guy... Anyway, on the box, in one corner, it says HUN on one line and BLACK BLACK on another line. So... Hungary?

Oh and... answer, please :D.
[G2 General] Qix84:
You noticed the liquid effect when you touch the screen. In max brightness and grey background. I noticed if i touch the upper boders or some spots in the screen.
[G2 General] siankatabg:
From this post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53575395&postcount=600

I got that issue only if i press really hard on the right upper corner :)
[G2 General] Formhault:
I... do?! :eek:

EDIT: OH MY GOD! I ACTUALLY DO! :(

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esndate = manufacturing date?

esnoutgodate = when the phone exit the factory?
[G2 General] siankatabg:
I think so.
[G2 General] Formhault:
I get the issue, too. It's most bad in the upper-left corner. But I almost never press that hard down on the screen.

And hey, every LCD has that issue. Even the iDevices, I think. The HTC One X was the worst, as its glass is very curved at the edges. That's what you get with Gorilla Glass 2 that is curved at the edges :) so you can't really call it an "issue".

It is an issue when the screen flex is very pronounced, for the slightest of touches. Like it was for a LG G2 Mini at a Vodafone store I visited a few days back - barely touching it with the finger tip resulted in some screen flex in the center of the screen. Heck, at that pressure, the digitizer didn't even recognize a touch input, but the screen fiex did :laugh:. So THAT's an issue.

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Well, mine was made on 17th of April and went out of factory on 18th. So... it's pretty new, huh? Here's hoping my display ain't gonna go haywire with the black lines :)