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[One (M8) General] Dogmann:
Hi all,

Well on my last phone a Galaxy S3 i couldn't wait to get a custom Rom on it and to get rid of TW and all the Samsung Bloat and ran the SuperNexus ASOP Rom from as soon as i got it and vowed vanilla Android was my preference and what i would always run on my device.

So much to my surprise i can't believe since getting the M8 just how nice and good Sense 6 has been and is even though i could if i wanted to either fully convert it to a GPE M8 or run custom Rom's i just don't see or feel the need to do as it just seems too much like hard work to me to go through unlocking the Bootloader Rooting and installing a custom recovery to flash GPE or custom Rom's. When for now at least my M8 on Sense 6 does all i want or need so well I have got rid of the Blinkfeed Home screen as don't need or like it but am loving the Blinkfeed Launcher and i have Google Now available to me from just swiping up from the Home button on any screen and OK Google works without issues to all without the need of having to allocate a Home screen for it and the battery life and performance of my M8 running Sense 6 is the best i have seen from any device I've had.

Marc
[One (M8) General] Kindatired:
The one x was my first HTC phone and after that experience I swore off HTC and went with the nexus 4 after having owned the nexus s and galaxy nexus. I thought the stock Google thing was the best way to go with Android.

Once my nexus 4 died after a trip into a puddle I figured I would give either Samsung a first try or HTC another try. After playing with the g5 and the m8 in the store I decided on the m8. Glad I made that choice. A coworker of mine got the s5 and has nothing but complaints about it. Laggy ui , weird bugs (this is stock) and terrible battery life I am glad I went with the m8.

The strange thing is that I haven't bothered to switch a gpe Rom since using the m8. I figured I would switch right away after being in love with all the nexus phones, but sense 6 on the m8 has really made me change my mind on custom ui's. While I still hate touch wiz with a passion even after having used a Samsung phone for only a few hours in total. I can honestly say that sense has surpassed the stock android experience for me and that is saying a lot for me.
[One (M8) General] xzxero:
i prefer sense with the kk launcher on the play store
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
I'm really impressed with Sense after 5 Samsung devices. I'm glad I switched teams. AOSP runs slick on these phones but AOSP is AOSP at the end of the day. I'm loving the Sense experience and have no plans to run anything else as a DD (although I may build out of hobby).
[One (M8) General] leongwengheng:
I'm coming over from a Nexus 5. I loved stock android on the Nexus, but I wanted an upgrade in hardware, so I've flashed Skydragon's GPE ROM onto my M8.

I've never used Sense before though, so I would like to give it a try for a week at some point. My mate (who used to love his Nexus) swear by Sense now!
[One (M8) General] Zeebz:
I just converted my M8 to a Google Play Edition. Sense was definitely not a bad UI, but I love stock Android too much. I wanted to be able to have the stock look and I also loved getting the OTAs quickly, so I did the conversion.
[One (M8) General] Ideas4ya:
I am in love with AOSP. I switch between Liquid and SlimKat. SlimKat has the fastest UI I've seen but Liquid has all the newest features.

I like being able to change the density without downloading another app. I also like the Circle bar where I can add my own custom apps. I use pie instead of the navigation bar and I hide my status bar to get all of my screen.

Of course AOSP roms have their bugs and all but let's remember it's only been 2 months since the phone was released lol. I love the custom features these developers put in the roms.

If we could just get a kernel we could OC to 2.8Ghz and get all the microphone and camera bugs worked out...
[One (M8) General] hello00:
u dont get updates that quick..nexus devices do
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Gpe is better than aosp.

Gpe so far gives more sot than sense did
[One (M8) General] Radixtrator:
Our GPE M8 got 4.4.3 like one Day after the N5
[One (M8) General] Ideas4ya:
This is true!
[One (M8) General] vision89:
hm sure? a lot of people said that the battery life is worse than sense
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Not for me. Gpe greatly improved battery life over sense for me. Enough to sacrifice WiFi calling :)
[One (M8) General] vision89:
can you send a screenshot with gsam please? how much SOT do you have?
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
Next time I go from 100 to 0 sure

Usually 6.5hr up from 4.5 to 5
[One (M8) General] vision89:
sounds amazing. which rom and kernel do you use. and how long is the smartphone on with this SOT. more than 24 hours?!
[One (M8) General] dannejanne:
Sense 6 is amazing. So got damn tired of Vanilla. Sense looks better and is more fun to use. Had a Nexus 5 before the M8.

This is my battery life on Sense 6. ViperOne Rom. Stock kernel. I'm sure Vanilla can't improve it further for me.

Sent from my HTC One M8
[One (M8) General] EternalAndroid:
I'm on ARHD, is that color at the top - apart of the ROM?
[One (M8) General] djplayboy:
Do any other roms take full advantage of the m8 camera? gpe?
[One (M8) General] bleggy:
dopplekanger is where it's at. the google play experience but with a few choice, unobtrusive customizations and optimizations. it's the goldilocks rom.
[One (M8) General] fectivi:
After 1 year with nexus 5, i baught the htc one m8 with sense and i have to say that i miss the speed of the nexus 5, the sense is very slow, so two weeks ago i switched to GPE rom and i very happy now with the htc device, high quality with the google clean exprience.
[One (M8) General] downwiththebanksters:
Hey GPE lovers, how is the camera? I want to go GPE so bad, sounds like the battery is OK now, but for me, the camera should be decent.
[One (M8) General] 3484jacks:
For me, I love sense. I think its the most complete of the OEM overlays. However, the thing that its missing imo, is the launcher customisation. If it had similar functionality to Nova or something then for me it would be the complete package.
[One (M8) General] downwiththebanksters:
Jacks, if you've used pure Google, or Touchwiz you'll realise that Sense, for it's most common tasks (for me anyway), managing radios/brightness/alerts adds an extra step. Rather than simply pulling down the left corner and toggling something I have to pull down and then select the settings, and then toggle something. The phone interface and contacts selection is not well thought out compared to those other two UI's either. So I put up with those first world problems because the speakers are so great. Even pure Google has gone backwards in this regard with lollipop. Now you have two steps to toggle radios if not in the lock screen.

Many other threads/posters indicate that the camera is not as good under pure Google on the M8. Does this thread concur?
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
I love my m8 since converting and in my usage battery life is better. Here is a pic I took tonight with it.
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Not sure what happened to my last post. . I love my m8 convert. Battery in my usage is better and here is a pic I took tonight.
[One (M8) General] leandronb:
i love both sense and gpe, but the google camera is one of the worst apps i used. i will convert again when google launches the reworked camera app. but i think after a few days sense lollipop becomes slow, maybe is memory leak.
[One (M8) General] Damix2:
You can just flash the HTC Camera App and it's working flawlessly :)

Sent from my Google Play Edition HTC One M8
[One (M8) General] -juanito-:
I wanna install GPE but i love H/K.
[One (M8) General] DeeJay250:
Issues with AOSP

I love the AOSP experience but I've always had audio issues with AOSP, especially in my favorite game Puzzle and Dragons. I've noticed it in pretty much all the roms based off CM.
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
I always charge at night so after 14hrs and 6hr sot I'm at 19% or so

Also depends which office I'm at if I'm at a satellite office with supreme signal strength I can achieve great times if I'm home office where signal sucks it drains faster
[One (M8) General] dannejanne:
Yeah the ViperOne rom have 8 different colors to choose from. It's a theme that you flash.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2708004

Sent from my HTC One M8
[One (M8) General] rodelisdeman:
Since I've been using a GPE rom I can't go back to sense. It's just so smooth and it's almost bloathless and with GEL Xposed settings there is even more customized possible then with any Sense Rom. As far as battery life, I have had not issues with it and it is comparable to sense battery life and I even noticed a slight battery life increase going to 4.4.3 so all is good!
[One (M8) General] Doughnut:
MY rom journey,

From Stock Sense to Viper 1.60 to AR HD 7...Still felt likes somethings missing. I wanted more of light rom, less bloat, less of what I don't use.

And so I went for SD GPE 2.0.3....Had this rom running one day, simply phenomenal, amazing battery life, smooth, improved gaming (Spider Man 2 runs more smoothly) and I like the google launcher and simplicity.

I do miss HK mod/Boom Sound, but overall I wanted performance and that's what I'm getting.

GPE for me.
[One (M8) General] fix-this!:
Ill stick to gpe for now. The aosp roms have too many issues.

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Wrong!
[One (M8) General] SouthernEvo:
Sense 6 here , I have always like AOSP and have always had some type of AOSP rom or AOSP theme . With the HTC One M8 it was my return to Sense and to be honest from the days of the Evo 4G things have changed and I like the changes . I have tried AOSP roms and have come back to Sense each time . What I find really funny is Touchwiz I couldnt wait to get rid of . Sense brings me back .
[One (M8) General] hello00:
nexus got the update like 2 or 3 days before all of other phones
[One (M8) General] fix-this!:
Wow a whole 2 or 3 day wait?
[One (M8) General] GriffenD:
That's still pretty quick.
[One (M8) General] F4M0U569:
Actually we got the update a week before you guys. I know because I have both phones
[One (M8) General] Radixtrator:
I Remember that the M8 srsly got it 2-3 days later. Maybe yours was a bit slow, not all devices get it at the same time
[One (M8) General] vision89:
is gpe firmware recommended for a gpe rom?
[One (M8) General] 21cdb:
I use AOSP, more specifically Liquidsmooth. The main reason is that it's extremely smooth, especially running ART. And all the customizations are built into the ROM, so I don't need to go back to Dalvik to run Xposed. About the only thing I've noticed that's broken is the speakerphone mic, everything else works great for me.
[One (M8) General] HtcOneJon:
Sense for me.

Too many compromises on AOSP. AOSP Camera app is awful, google launcher is awful. I'm sure some people like the boring vanilla look but not me.

I've tried GPE, AOSP and Sense and cannot see any difference in battery life, but sense 6 performance is a little better, so went with Viper as no other ROM will give me all the tweaks I need.
[One (M8) General] Ideas4ya:
FYI guys...there's a new AOSP kernel out called The Furnace!! It will allow anyone on a AOSP rom to overclock their device from 2.2Ghz to 2.88Ghz. Battery comparison should be completed within the next couple of days; too early to tell right now.

For those that want to check it out...enjoy!! I'm an AOSP fanatic so I'm running AOSB Project with Furnace kernel and I'm flying!!
[One (M8) General] dannejanne:
Why would anyone really want to do that? Not that its needed for or phones. It will only hurt battery with few if any benefits.
[One (M8) General] Ideas4ya:
Thats the best part of AOSP...you don't have to OC. But just to know that the developers have come up with a way to do this is awesome. I'm excited to see the progress of AOSP. Some people want to get every last ounce of performance out of their phones. Some people like to push the device to it's limits (after all, we did spend a pretty penny on these, why not). Most people don't buy a Mustang to drive it 30mph.

But you don't have to. If you wanted, you could download an AOSP rom and customize it to look just like stock, you don't have to utilize all the features. I'd just rather have a rom that is always being tweaked, and always has the newest exclusive features. To me, that's what makes AOSP (or AOSB in my case) different from GPe or Sense, the rules and parameters are tossed out the window and the OS is rewritten.

AOSP Exclusive Features: Circle Bar, Profiles, Halo, Multiwindow (minus Samsung devices), Hover and Pie with 2nd level. Man, what would I do without these custom features. Yes you can get a few of these if you DL an app or two...but why do that when it could be baked right into the operating system and run even smoother with less battery consumption?

Rock on AOSP, AOKP, PA, Liquid, AOSB, Carbon, AICP, and all the other different flavors of Android!! Rock on!! Lead the way...Google will catch up once you perfect it...they always do!
[One (M8) General] nO.One2:
now i think sense roms are better, because they got really nice features, like the hk sound.

if e.g. cm11 will get hk sound, and all other nice stuff, like on stock, its a good alternative to use the light aosp roms.
[One (M8) General] MistaBishi:
I agree that Sense does some things better, but when the GPe version gets the next version of Android and Sense is still on 4.4, I reckon there will be a few people changing their minds...
[One (M8) General] Radixtrator:
This. If the new version should actually not bring anything useful,which I doubt, I will go back to sense. If its awesome though, a lot of people will switch to GPE
[One (M8) General] djlukas1983:
Right now I use sense stock Rom cause I've loved HTC Sense. But after GPE get new Android's version I will try the GPE version, but right now I'm staying at stock sense Rom.

Wysłane z mojego HTC One_M8 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[One (M8) General] Radixtrator:
Anyone else notice that the Google camera cuts a bit off at the sides of the viewfinder?
[One (M8) General] ruben8448:
I love GPE. But I have a question and maybe someone here can help. Sense got the camera update that allows them to adjust the blurry level. How can you get that on the GPE? If it doesn't update then I may have to switch to sense cause of the small software updates.
[One (M8) General] Ideas4ya:
Agreed. We are finally seeing some 4.4.3 sense and gpe roms now...but notice no 4.4.4 roms. Oh wait...except for one...it's an AOSP rom with the latest security fixes from Google's nexus devices.

That's the beauty of AOSP...this is the way updates work you guys...feel free to form your own opinions based on the info below!!

GPe Updates: Google --> Pushes to Nexus Devices --> Pushes to GPe Devices

Sense Updates: Google --> HTC --> Pushes to Sense roms

AOSP Updates: Google --> Pushes to Nexus Devices --> AOSP hijacks ALL updates
[One (M8) General] feizy:
The current Furnace kernel let you OC to 2.8Ghz and let's you underclock to 268Mhz. I have been on this kernel for a few days and it runs real smooth with Liquid.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2784395

edit: Nevermind, I see you already found it. ha.
[One (M8) General] Razorbacktrack5535:
What's about moving apps on the external sd ? Sense allow it,but aosp? Gpe?

Inviato dal mio HTC One_M8 utilizzando Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] Doughnut:
Back onto Sense for me :crying: HK mods is worth the extra bloat to me...as well as the Jishu's camera mod.

If GPE had HK mod and full camera mod, it would be flawless (for me at least) but I'll sacrifice some speed for HK mods and camera mods!
[One (M8) General] atticusmas:
Uh maybe because the n5's build quality and other components are utter crap?
[One (M8) General] tmorterlaing:
This seems to be the most recent thread I can find about this- the only things I miss from Sense are the power Saver modes and the camera.

Questions- is it still the case now (July '14) that the Camera in Sense on an M8 somehow utilises the drivers better and makes for a better picture than AOSP based rom cameras? And is there no similar Power Saver app to replicate the Sense one?

And again how does battery life compare on AOSP vs Sense? (All the answers I can find are based on Sense 5.5, it's now on 6... but AOSP Roms have come a long way as well...)

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Can someone please answer this? :D
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
The GPE ROM has the HTC Photo editing software, so you can add ufocus effects + more. AOSP camera don't have those tools and doesn't seem as sharp/clear as Sense/GPE Roms. As for battery on AOSP Roms I'm not too sure, I'm testing ParanoidAndroid with Furnace kernel right now. I somehow always get bored with AOSP because it feels so plain, might be heading back to sense soon.
[One (M8) General] contraryrhombus:
Currently I'm running Inspire OS which I believe is built off AOSP. Love how it all looks and the fact it is a lightweight ROM. Just a shame I seem to miss Blinkfeed. Have had to install flipboard to make up for it.
[One (M8) General] SuperShadow1021:
I absolutely loved Vanir on My Galaxy Nexus. Still keep it updated and running too. Sense 6 is(in my opinion) a polished version of android. love the weather app and the general layout of things. my only gripe would be the lack of customization of the blinkfeed launcher. although installing a custom launcher would solve this. If AOSP roms besides GPE could make use of the duo camera and utilize boomsoud. there is probably no doubt i would go to AOSP. but for now Sense 6 is good to use.
[One (M8) General] tmorterlaing:
(Harking back to my earlier question) - I'm still a little bit unclear about this, and google searching ironically doesn't seem to help.

FORGETTING the duo camera effects, it also helps it focus and helps with the overall quality of the image by feeding information to the main camera, is that right?

Likewise with Boomsound- it's not just the speakers being better is it(?)- It's actual drivers that balance the frequencies dependant on the volume right?

The thing that confuses me is- the code was apparently released to Google or something for this stuff, so does that mean a camera app on AOSP (say the google camera app) can at least make use of the camera, even if it doesn't offer the editing modes afterwards?

AND does that mean that unless you're running Sense 6, the speakers are no longer 'Boomsound'- they're just loud (and possibly distorted, with no drivers to balance it out)??
[One (M8) General] SuperShadow1021:
I have yet to try but I believe the BoomSound Is built into the sense software. Without the effects I don't know how it would sound. And add far as the actual camera I have yet to try in an aosp camera if it uses both sensors but I am under the assumption that to make use of the full camera you would have to use a sense room for that as well
[One (M8) General] Swat Valley:
I used Sense when I first got the phone, but found it lacking in the customisation dept.

The one thing I did like about it was BlinkFeed.

I flashed Viper and am loving it:)

I use Apex as my launcher and have created a shortcut on it to BlinkFeed.

I have a nexus 7 2013 as well and have tried every Rom out there, they just ended up frustrating me with their lagginess.

But I think thats a problem with the nexus and not the roms themselves.

So I've reverted to stock on it with root and use Xposed to do all my customisation.

I still find the HTC to be laggy at times with the viper Rom, not most of the time, but sometimes it jus acts stupid and will freeze up.

Really annoying but hey, can't have everything in life:(
[One (M8) General] dannejanne:
The Google camera app has a "blur" function which is basically the same as uFocus on the M8. It just works in different ways. On the Google camera you have to know in advance you're going to do it and shoot the photo in a special mode. But it works just as well (or bad depending on how you see it) in my experience and you can adjust the blur amount afterwards. Otherwise you can apply most of the same editing effects (exposure, filters etc...) afterwards with the Google gallerys if you're talking about that stuff.

Also BoomSound is basically nothing more than EQ stuff being applied. The phone will still have the same fine sound with great dynamics in earphones for example just a different character to the sound. You can EQ it youself anyway if you want to. I never use BoomSound personally. It will affect the sound from the phone speakers as BoomSound seems to help a little there. But their sound is not horrible on AOSP.
[One (M8) General] tmorterlaing:
I think you're pretty alone there? It seems to be with everyone else this is NOT the case- that's the whole big deal about this Sense on an M8 isnt it- that it doesn't cause any extra lag. If I were you I'd suggest looking through some of your apps, perhaps one of them is badly written or something.

-Thanks- but does this actually use the information given by the second camera? Or iust this just an effect applied based on what it thinks is close?

So in theory, if I could EQ the speakers properly, I could get the same sound out of them when on AOSP? (I'm less worried about earphones, I have great earphones and don't want anything to effect the sound.)
[One (M8) General] dannejanne:
No the second camera is not used. However Googles software-only solution works just as well as M8's partial hardware solution. It's just a bit more cumbersome to do it. When you take one of those shots with Google camera you first press the shutter then slowly raise the phone upwards a short bit and it collects some kind of info for the photo so it knows the distance to stuff. The app will explain how to do it the first time.

Yes, you can probably EQ the sound so it becomes equal. Look for Viper4Android.

Sent from my One M8
[One (M8) General] whytechapel_x:
There is a feature on viper4android that makes the speaker sound identical to sense.
[One (M8) General] BrandonPrice31:
What is it?
[One (M8) General] @rbiter:
Isn't boomsound alson on gpe? And it's just a equalizer effect. Adds bass and treble. For the most part it sounds like crap. Some hip hop and bassy electronic music it might sound fine, but overall it doesn't help. You can eq to your liking anyways. And boomsound is on by default. Can't turn it off for speakers but it can be turned off for headphones which I definitely recommend.

And to the poster that said there is lag aaaand on a custom ROM. I think you need to check your rom, apps and/or governors. This is by far the smoothest phone I've owned. Smoother than moto x and my note3. The only lag evident is when stuff is loading cache/data and that is more to blame on internet connection and/or the way the app loads stuff. And that is any phone. Every animation, loading of app and scrolling is buttery. Not to mention, with the m8 having the lowest input latency of any phone out there, including the note3 and iPhone 5s it is unbelievable how optimized dalvik/jit is. Wait til android L drops. Apps will load faster, battery life will be a lot more tame with jobscheduler API, battery saver mode included in AOSP and other stuff I've forgotten and don't know about.

sent from my HTC One M8 using hofo mobile app
[One (M8) General] whytechapel_x:
Speaker optimization
[One (M8) General] dandan2980:
At first I was all over sense but aosp has been rock solid and I am allover Aosp again
[One (M8) General] kingsway8605:
Strangely enough I like sense. If you put nova launcher or the google now launcher on there it looks and feels just like stock android with some useful features like call/SMS blocking and configurable quick panels settings
[One (M8) General] dandan2980:
Sense = snappy and very responsive

Aosp= extra smooth everything animations are way smoother. And look nicer
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Yeah I do love the AOSP look. The nav bar, the menus, the simpleness of it. That coupled with this hardware is a killer combo.

Sent from my One M8
[One (M8) General] BrandonPrice31:
What aosp are you running