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[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] lacmac:
I managed to get sygic working. I needed to format my SD card. Then reinstalled sygic. But once i downloaded the maps I was only left with 500mb.

I came across this site

http://cellphoneforums.net/samsung-...g-sd-card-external-storage.html#axzz36ezOINUS

It tells you how to save so space by changing the default save folder.

Once I did that I moved all my apk files onto my SD card and the apps still work.now I have 1.6gb free.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] lacmac:
Here is a site for tips&tricks for the K zoom.

http://www.phonetipsandtricks.com/tips/samsung-galaxy-k-zoom/?page=1
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] apprentice:
Video quality is superb! No complaints, and the low level lighting shots are amazing. I think online reviews should be taken with a pinch of salt. An accurate review is only credible if the reviewer has tested the device of several days (or weeks even).
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] thedicemaster:
the screen size is also not really an issue after a few days of use.

I had a note 2 before this, and I don't notice the size difference until I grab my old note 2 again.

if text is hard to read you can just set the text size larger in your browser and in your system settings.

I have it set to the smallest setting for system and the 2nd smallest for firefox though, the screen is still bigger than an iPhone screen.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] lacmac:
Yes screen size is fine now,just a matter of getting used to it.

I tried the video in low light,it was just becoming dark so not too low light.Quality was pretty bad.My father in law was about to buy one until he saw how poor it was at this.

I did try to explain it's still not bad for a camera phone.

Is there a way to keep the flash on as a torch whilst use video?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] thedicemaster:
a xenon flash is just that, a flash.

it can't be lit for more than a quick flash.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] gavinfabl:
First software update for K Zoom details http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/07/11/samsung-galaxy-k-zoom-software-update/
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] timduru:
which versions do you have after the update for baseband, kernel and rom build?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
How is the daylight visibility on the K zoom screen. Does it auto boost in sunlight like the S5 ?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] thedicemaster:
I don't know if it's like the S5, but the screen is very clear in direct sunlight.

even LCD screens aren't that clear for me in sunlight.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
Do you notice the brightness increase when set to auto outdoors ?

The S3 like amoleds of its generation was lousy in sunlight but the S4 incorporated an auto brightness boost that made outdoors legibility better. Same was followed with the note 3 and S5. Its brighter than max brightness and cannot be set manually as its hard on the battery.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] apprentice:
This is interesting... but on connecting mine to KIES it states no updates, I have the latest version PDA:NE1 / CSC:NE1 / PHONE:NE1 (BTU)

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[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] livio80:
the new update is available only for Hong Kong and Taiwan!
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] thedicemaster:
other countries too.

baseband C115XXU1BNE4

build KOT49.C115XXU1BNF1
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] Kroy73:
My update was waiting for me yesterday morning, downloaded it last night (York, England).

Haven't spotted any difference yet!!

:confused: :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] livio80:
i was talking about C115ZSU1ANF2

NF2 update is only for Taiwan and Hong Kong.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
He mentions unusual halos around lights at night and zooming causes shaky effects in video.

Critiques having widest aperture at 3.1 instead of 2.0. Inability to set aperture values between 3.1 & 9 (!) Lack of 4k due to underpowered cpu.

[YOUTUBE]-VafmAZrMBw[/YOUTUBE]
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] Heisenberg3282:
Another review this time from ephotozine which is a Photography website that reviews phone cameras and Digital Cameras, quite a good site.

Link here although I can't post the www due to being a new member with under 10 posts: ephotozine.com/article/samsung-galaxy-k-zoom-review-25810

It does say that image quality is the same as S4 zoom but at ISO 200 and higher the S4 Zoom takes better pics due to more aggressive noise reduction on the S4 Zoom.

A bad point about the K Zoom is the lack of LED light for video which is very poor by Samsung to be honest.

Conclusion is:

Samsung Galaxy K Zoom Pros

10x optical zoom lens

Optical image stabilisation

Wi-Fi, NFC and GPS

4.8inch screen

Xenon Flash

Manual control

Numerous effect modes

Slimmer form

Samsung Galaxy K Zoom Cons

Compromised ergonomics

Inevitable bulk

Image smoothing at higher sensitivities

Disappointing panorama mode

Screen brightness could be higher
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
join the k flickr group and post your best photos

https://www.flickr.com/groups/2656894@N24/

lets see what the K can do .. there are some impressive pics too
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
Like this one by oretega_sg

So there is a bit of PS in there but how did he get such a sharp 1s exposure :confused:

No camera shake in there at all !!
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Welcome back one_tweleve ... The ois in the k is impressive. I get easily 0.5 sec hand held 1sec. Is easily by leaning on any surface.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] miljano:
loop total boot ups

Someone experiencing a loop of total boot ups?

My k zoom will start, homescreen appears and then after few seconds it fully boots again. This is going in a loop constantly

Don't know what to do.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
Hey Ahmed :)

Was checking out the photos that you tube reviewer put up and saw the same thing with some low light photos, shutter speed very close to 1/focal length, no shake (!), ois makes a difference.

i notice ortega has dropped EV by a stop this had helped to keep the halos around the lights down, they are still visible but less prominent. This is something you can compensate for with longer exposure time.

So how are you finding the k zoom, can you ever go back to a phone that does not have zoom :cowboy:

Trying to get my hands on this device but its only available online in my country, none of the samsung shops have it on display yet.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Hey :)

Glad to hear from u again.

Its not only the zoom also the xenon. freezing every action specially at night portraits and group photos is something anyone will admire. No more blurry people again

About landscapes .. The smaller aperture vs say the M7 (I had before) is a bit darker but u can easily compensate with settings.

The camera is overall a match or it is already a midrange point and shoot with OIS

The cool thing is once u start zooming u cant go back ... Every pic can get advantage with some zoom !

As a phone. Honestly I didnt feel any diff. In terms of speed with other flagships.

Only the 720p screen is a tad below par ... Only htc one owners will find a difference . htc lcds are ridiculously sharp!

I will keep it for awhile .. Specially that finally now no second or third trials to get the image u want. The xenon is a bless too.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] miljano:
help

Please help, i was trying to get back to the first ever firmware from the k zoom.

after several attemps, fails, now odin is stuck at initalization. What to do?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Still no forum ? Anyway the k is a huge step up from the s4 zoom in noise reduction .. This one taken with the k [MENTION=586447]iso3[/MENTION]200

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Flickr link and u could find the group too

https://flic.kr/p/o4vM3F
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] livio80:
let's see if we can help you!

in the beginning, some questions:

what ROM are you using?

from where you picked up the ROM? is it an official ROM?

what version of Odin are you using? did you try with the last version (3.10)?

i tried with my phone and i installed a previous version without any problems!
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] miljano:
I guess I was on the latest stock rom from June, with root . I have downloaded the may stock rom from Samfirmware. Dutch firmware.

I used odin 3.09 and 1.85

First attempt it got stuck while it was flashing the system.img part. Automatically stated FAIL

all later attempts stuck at INITIALIZATION. then occasionally an attempt stuck again at system.img. Fail.

Tried 3 different computers, different usb ports, anti-virus inactive and June firmware. also left battery out between attempts.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] pakisan:
Some kind soul could post the apk of the camera, and the study of all the app / feature photographic K Zoom? Now that S4 Zoom had KitKat I'd try to install them.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] livio80:
if you tried all this stuff......i'm thinking that the smartphone could be damaged.....

why did you try to reinstall old firmware? for which problem?

maybe (rarely but possible) the ROM image could be damaged or not entirely downloaded....can you try other ROMs?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] genus:
Yes, K zoom has better performance compare with s4 zoom

I had done a series of comparison too ;)

K zoom have more sensitive sensor and better performance at high ISO1600, 3200 than s4 zoom. At high ISO the color rendering also surprisingly good for K zoom, this is amazing compare to other smartphone, even pureview.

I recommend we go until ISO1600, as 3200 there will be much loss of detail. You can shot at 20MP @ ISO1600 / 3200, then resize it to 5MP, the quality will be good after resize.

To take long exposure photo, remember turn off OIS, OIS will cause blur for long exposure photo.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
I don have any option to close OIS from ... Even no on screen zoom buttons. What firmware r u using
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] genus:
You can only have option to turn off the OIS when you choose Program Mode or Manual Mode ;)

Here is some shot with high ISO

ISO1600

ISO1600

ISO3200

Full zoom, macro

As we can see, if we resized the photo, the result is amazing, noise level are very low after resize it ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
thanks for the tip

this phone really rocks .. super like .. specially for samsung going to f/4.4 till 44 very wide focal point for group shots and beautifull portraits at high focal points. not to mention the wide 24mm lens
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
Deciding between this one and Z2 and its difficult. Low light video with 3.1 aperture isn't as good as 2.0. But zoom is nice, the wider aperture helps for group shots as you said but gets in the way of bokeh. How do you find k zoom as a daily driver ?

Why they did not go with a bigger sensor for k zoom. it makes me wonder whether the next model will have it. Otherwise camera hardware seems the same, the change is form factor and improved algorithms.

Did you find a tripod yet ?

Joby mpod mini stand

Depth (how thick) is the problem :(
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] gavinfabl:
The Shoulderpod S1 is what I use. The best tripod smartphone rig I've used.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Just shot a quick video between my k zoom f/3.1 and wife Z1 (same camera as Z2)

First clip us k zoom then the z1 filming k zoom then the z1 then k zoom filiming z1 (but in 60fps so the circumstances ae bit dimmer)

K zo: http://youtu.be/rQJFaqf7m88

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One. Tweleve : u can use it as your primary phone not heavy and slip easily into my jeans.

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Size comparison betn. K zoom and z1 and s4 zoom

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/vend3gry4pfblzr/AABBg2p2xfGqTuKA5fFjOZYga
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
share your best photos with the k zoom on the flickr group

https://www.flickr.com/groups/2656894@N24/
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ktonlai:
Did anyone buy a white one? I want to know if the back is made from the same soft-touch material as the black version.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] scotsmantom:
White K Zoom

I bought white. I guess it's the same. It's dimpled like small indents on a golf ball. I put on a silicon cover to protect it here in Wales.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] gavinfabl:
I now have 104 photos taken with the K Zoom. These shots include using pro suggest, auto, HDR, waterfall, panoramic, continuous, action, shot and more modes and more. Macro as well.

Subjects include landscapes, large buildings, horses jumping, dogs in action/air, flowers, sunsets, and much more.

My flickr album for the K Zoom https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157644532639249/
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ktonlai:
Hey! I finally found a white owner.

So when you feel it, is it grippy, soft material or hard plastic like a golf ball?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] scotsmantom:
Gripping the white K Zoom

I wouldn't describe it as soft material. It has dimples so not smooth like Galaxy S3 but it's still hard plastic but the dimples do help gripping it. :)
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ktonlai:
:good: Thanks for the insight, brother.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] neoxkid:
I had a S4zoom and now upgraded to Galaxy K but the quality of the photos is not so good as s4zoom
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] charming.arpit:
I have been using Galaxy K Zoom and have clicked lots of pics in both daylight and low light situations. I must say the camera unit is very impressive and also the configuration for smartphone makes it lag free and a snappy experience. I would term this phone as a "Camera with smartphone features".

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K Zoom is lot better to grip as compared to Z2 because of its rounded and gripping back!
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] apprentice:
Hmmm.. you are doing something wrong then as I had the S4 Zoom previously and the K Zoom pics are definitely better. I have taken approx 500 pics so far and hardly any duds.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] neoxkid:
gonna give it another week to adjust to it
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Any clues about the changelog of the new firmware bnf6... also do u guys have on screen zoom icons + & -
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] charming.arpit:
Can you give the exact firmware version details?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] miljano:
Just got my phone back from Samsung service centre. Motherhood was replaced. Although I was rooted they had replaced it under warranty

The reason why I ever wanted to downgrade my firmware was because my phone was powering off after every start up. I'm guessing my motherboard was already unstable, therefore my phone was not able to flash any other firmware correctly.

At first I thought the root did all this, so I'm very interested if other people recognize what I just mentioned
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Am rooted and all fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] Xdenwarrior:
Would love to know also!

Actually NG1 firmware from Romania (Cosmote) is the latest. But as far as i know, there is no official 2nd update available for K zoom, since both NF2 (Honk Kong) and Singapore NF6 never had the official June 3rd update and instead updated their phones to that update few weeks later hence bigger changelog. Based on the size of just over 1gb, NF6 (singapore) seems pretty bloated. I think it be more interesting for someone to test NG1 firmware by Cosmote to see what new changes it brought (as its only 941mb) and whether or not it got carrier branded apps.

(Unfortunately by now I have roughly 40gb of data installed on this phone with foldermount, so flashing different CSC, which will erase all my data, i wont risk. :( But if someone, who doesnt have alot installed, is open to try new firmwares, should definately give it a go!!!

On a contrary, does anyone know how to only extract ''camera firmware'' from those firmwares to see if it improved anything in terms of imaging?? This way you wont have to reinstall everything :p
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Do u know that hdr mode eorks terrifically at night .. It even goes to long exposures ! Try it.

Also during day with hdr mode on. Tab to focus then set the exposure box with your finger to the desired area then capture .. The hdr mode automatic sets its parameters to the new desired exposure area ! This camera is amazing
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] genus:
Good suggestion!!! Will try it later :laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
Get the message 'unfortunately camera has stopped' when i click the mode button from the stock camera interface.

The camera works in auto for stills & video but crashes when i hit the mode button.

Video is recorded in 30fps even if 60fps is set :(

Any ideas ?

Update: FIX

Settings->Applications->Application Manager->(swipe to all Applications)->Camera (clear data)

Cause: Its a bug in the camera software.

Trigger: open camera app->mode button->(look at the top left where you see 4 squares) click that and it rearranges the mode icons in a grid list instead of having them all in a one line strip.

This is what causes the camera to throw up a camera stopped error (!) when you re-enter the camera and choos mode button again.

device : SM-C111

build: C111XXU1ANEC
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] thomkat:
I've got G1 today. No bloatware found. Kidsmodus was new. No Camera firmware update. Seems to be a little snappier than NF1. Rootkernel is working fine. Testing will go on. ...
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Glad u fixed it .. Share us some pics on the flickr group. How do u find the phone after all.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
Yeah i intend to, some very nice pics you all have there.

With the phone, you getting it helped to make my mind up :) During the world cup I saw the k zoom ads of the smiling woman and other girls using this camera was not too impressed but looking at the photos and seeing the results changed my mind. This is for people who want more framing possibilities with a camera and there is no smartphone competitor that can change its focal length or aperture. But there are some compromises to be made. Got used to the weight after a couple of days and for what it offers its worth it. Have been happy with it so far. Wish it had 16GB but only the korean variant has this so have to be selective with apps.

It arrived a day before i went to a wedding and it came in very handy. When there is a crowd and you want to get closer, hold the phone up above their heads, amoled screen gives good viewing angles zoom in and you get the shot which others cannot get or sit in the fourth row and get photos of the actors on the stage very easily. The xenon is good but a little too overpowering so i had a lot of pics with people with eyes closed, as a fill it would have been fine. But fill and best photo are only there in other modes, since i had this camera stop problem i could only use auto but the photos came out ok, little higher ISO than i would have liked but better than nothing. There is no heating problem as in you have to wait for camera to cool down, it works in auto just could not select modes. I did not get any clips that were as long as ten minutes so luckily did not hit the 10 minute hard limit for video.

Got a joby tripod and the auto-pop case which is very good. It covers the front of the camera which used to concern me when placing the phone down anywhere with screen up. The camera sits flush when it retracts and i think the lens at the tip can be scratched easily, no scratches so far but the choice is either that or the screen (!). With the auto pop cover this is no longer the case. And it adds only 35 gm to the total weight and looks good. Its by a korean company called araree so not some generic case. The plastic back is glossy so little slippery but there is a good bumper around the sides with a very prominent lip, screen is like 2 mm below so now i place the screen face down and admire the look of the case. Don't know if i will get a screen protector i like the screen as it is.

Still waiting for a spring clamp atttachment like Allan Vallejo has to attach to the tripod.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] flex0r:
After Nokia

Coming from PureView 808, Lumia 1020 models, thinking about this one hard now! (1020 is very slow with the otherwise really good, camera).

Has anyone tried a really big SDHC card in this phone? Like 64GB or more?

Do you think it supports high speed (expensive) cards?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] thedicemaster:
64GB working fine here.

you probably won't notice much difference between different speeds though, SDXC is always C10 and I don't think any phone writes that fast.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Super moon tonight

Manual Exposure Program Iso auto metering SPOT added sharpness +2

https://flic.kr/p/oprZMr
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
Am not using any cases till now u made me think about ordering one specially the protective + samsung genuine case... U will admire it by time.

Try the night hdr too ... In manual press the gear "settings" icons u will find extra manual calibrations
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
Did you see steve litchfields

review

&

comparison

clips on YT ?

No perfection in this game, its all about compromises you can put up with. Image quality will be slightly better with 1020 but optical zoom gives you more framing possibilities so its an ok compromise i think. All the travel zooms have the same size 1/2.3 sensor. Bigger sensor sizes means the optics gets little more complicated (ie expensive) and offers less zoom.

Does the 1020 offer custom wb and allow to shoot in image sizes with an aspect ratio of 3:2 ?

most smartphone cameras do 4:3 or 16:9. DSLRs do 3:2, closest to the golden rectangle ratio.

3:2 is the same height (on a native 3:2) as 4:3 but a little wider, it means your landscapes get a little more width and its a subtle difference. All print is 3:2 so no cropping when printing. On the k zoom the resolution is 17.9MP cropped (a litle off the top & bottom) from the native 4:3 20MP. Can always crop afterwards but its nice to be able to compose in camera.

SDHC is up to 32GB using the fat32 file system with file size limitation of 4GB. Which you will never breach as video cannot exceed the 10minutes mark.

Beyond 32GB is SDXC which uses exfat, which the k zoom can understand so there is no limit (2TB?)

Extreme cards will offer a faster writing speed but it isn't really necessary as there is no RAW output possible from this camera.
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] livio80:
My super moon!!!!!!!!!!!

at this zoom out, the image is enough out of focus...but....can you do it with other smartphones? ;););)
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] ashouhdy:
whats ur exif data ?
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] livio80:
these are my photos and the related Exif data (.txt format)

i forgot to say: no tripod/stand for camera...i have done it "handmade"....I do not have a very steady hand!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy S 4 Zoom] One Twelve:
One thing to note with the pop cover case is the camera button is a bit harder to press. The volume & power buttons are perfectly fine, good tactile feedback. Dual stage buttons are harder with a case.

This is ok for me because i've found myself inadvertently touching shutter button without the case when doing other things, especially when holding in landscape so now there is less chance of the lens popping out. I could not get it to launch from cold with camera + volume up as without the case. on screen shutter button is the way to go for sharpest pictures.

Amoled screen has good viewing angles but it saturates more. This has to be the only device where the photos look better on the pc than on it which is a good thing but it means right colous on screen are likely to be undersaturated on a non amoled screen.

not sure which mode you mean, i have night mode or HDR (Rich tone), settings look the same for both.

Like this idea of films, its like presets for known scenes, quick to pull up and something i've always wanted to have. Why don't more phones offer it or at least a way to save custom presets.

Saw your low light film, ISO 800 and 0.5s (!)

man, only way to get this will be at widest focal length which is 1/4.4 and then you set shutter to 1/2. It will come out good with ISO 800.

But requiring steady hands is an understatement :laugh: