yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Yes, unlocked my bootloader to root 4.3, then relocked and flashed stock kernel. No other modifications to /system, just root.
[Xperia Z General] zeroed:
Or you can simply flash 4.4,backup your TA,unlock bootloader,flash doomlord's advanced kernel for 4.4,enter recovery and flash supersu,reboot,relock bl(by restoring TA),and flash back the stock kernel.Works like a charm.No need to downgrade to 4.3,4.2,4.1.

Edit:yes there is a point to flash 4.1 for example to root it temporary just to do a backup of TA partition,which you cant do if you aint rooted,but so far If you have your TA backup,you don't need to downgrade every time to root.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
You don't need to tell me this, thanks. I have a TA backup and an unlockable bootloader, so I can root any time I like. The simplest way is to upgrade OTA if you already have root and that's what I did. :)

You posted the reason why some may need to downgrade already, so I don't need to. :D
[Xperia Z General] zeroed:
Yeah,by you I didn't mean you,it was generally speaking.Sorry.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Well... you're right that it might be possible they removed the 'check for su binaries' in 4.4.. though I don't see why the would.

It would mean we will have a pretty easy root method for 4.4.

I will wait for Bilal100's reply :)
[Xperia Z General] Bilal100:
It'll take a while before I try it

Skickat från min C6603 via Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
It's OK.. Generic DE doesn't even have 4.4 update yet.. (ZL)
[Xperia Z General] joeyxl:
Love the off topic talk....
[Xperia Z General] technaudio:
ok, just to prove it to all you doubters.

Flashed 10.3.1.a.244, rooted with kingo, install suupersu pro (costs about 75p)

ota update 10.3.1.a.2.67 <root retained.

ota update 10.4.b.0.569 <root retained.

ota update 10.4.b.0.569 (1.3mb) <root retained.

ota update 10.4.b..0.101 <root retained.

ota update 10.5.a.0.230 <root retained.

Bootloader is locked, never been unlocked.
[Xperia Z General] erhaid:
Sorry to question this again but does this kind of rooting void warranty?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
No.
[Xperia Z General] Pandemic:
My biggest question is what is fixed in .233 ?

Send from my XZ with 4.4.2 to your eyes !
[Xperia Z General] Bilal100:
No one really knows. No one has got it yet

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[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
We can only wait to get an answer to this question. :)
[Xperia Z General] fatis:
So we waiting again like little puppies....We waiting so long for KK and we got 4.3 with many errors. KK in my opinion not bing anything new and exciting...
[Xperia Z General] Bilal100:
I tested just now, I did exactly like you:good:. I have now kitkat 230 with root. :laugh::laugh::laugh:

if I format the cell phone, I keep root?
[Xperia Z General] Incanity:
if you do a data wipe (hard reset) i believe you do. If you flash over with PC Companion, you lose root.
[Xperia Z General] Bilal100:
I make hard reset and i keep my root:laugh::laugh:
[Xperia Z General] Pandemic:
[MENTION=5646961]Bilal100[/MENTION]

:laugh: read the answer better -__-

If you update with pc companion then you wil lost root and not with hard reset in recovery.. LOL !!!

Do ya'll peeps even know something about Android by reading better and do some research -___#

Send from my XZ with 4.4.2 to your eyes !
[Xperia Z General] Bilal100:
I read the answer, and knew it well. Just wanted to report that it went well.
[Xperia Z General] colacin:
I'm unable to update via OTA - it just says update failed. My bootloader is relocked by restoring the TA partition - will this make a difference?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
No. I relocked by restoring the TA and updated OTA while rooted.

OTA updates are quite picky, however. If you modified/removed anything in /system they sometimes won't install.
[Xperia Z General] colacin:
Thanks - I think I did some debloating a long time ago with TiBackup... and can't seem to get those files back. Maybe that's my problem. Guess I'll have to figure out something else or just stay on JB for the time being.
[Xperia Z General] nihalvm:
You can flash back just system from an ftf file without erasing data etc.

That should restore all the apps that you removed.

Then ota should work I think.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
That will also remove root as it wipes /system during the process. If they're trying to update OTA to keep root, then that will not help. :)
[Xperia Z General] nihalvm:
Sorry☺

You can always flash the system from same JB ftf and re root☺

It is an extra step of course. But for someone who doesn't want to unlock bootloader it's ok.
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
Sorry to be the party pooper but can we PLEASE keep the thread on topic?

I come here to read about the .233 update, not about root etc!

Thanks!

:angel:
[Xperia Z General] emeemisri:
Yes we all know that. But root is important too same as 233 update. Unless you dont care bout root.

sent from my Yuga
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
Im hoping the .233 will bring double tap to wake devices with the annoying systemui, home and setting lag fix also the camera startup would be more faster and pictures quality improved a lot..

Wow.. Am i too much hope?
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
If you know that, then talk about it in a root thread? If I cared about root I woudnt be here when the title is clearly about 233?!
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
And complaining doesn't fill up the thread, does it? At least the talk of root was in response to a question and therefore helped that person. ;)

I respectfully suggest you just unsubscribe from this thread as there is unlikely to be any real information in it. Nobody knows anything about 233 apart from the fact that it's been certified. Past that, it may not even be publicly released or may just be a carrier specific release.

If and when it's released, there will be an explosion of threads about it, hundreds of posts asking when it's going to be released in a certain region and people repeatedly complaining it isn't out yet if past history is anything to go by, so it's unlikely it will release without someone noticing. :D
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Ah.. Now I remember.

This is what I had when I tried to update from 4.2.2 to 4.3.

My phone was completely stock, only rooted.. we found that anyone who was rooted could not OTA to 4.3. (Others with only root couldn't OTA either).

Is it because he (technaudio) used Kingo root? I used doom's tool v18.

Maybe it will work from 4.2.2 to 4.4.
[Xperia Z General] colacin:
I unlocked the bootloader, rooted, and relocked since I already had a TA backup. I think my problem must be the debloating I did.
[Xperia Z General] prueba01:
anyone knows when 10.5.a.0.233 is released ?
[Xperia Z General] Bilal100:
230 was certified on 06/05/2014 and I got on 21/05/2014, after two weeks.

233 was certified on 5/6/2014, so I would imagine that we may perhaps at the end of next week.
[Xperia Z General] joeyxl:
Off topic close thread! Follow the XDA guidelines!
[Xperia Z General] technaudio:
Watch out! The thought police are here...
[Xperia Z General] emeemisri:
Lol

sent from my Yuga
[Xperia Z General] RyomaEchizen:
Look Sony Developer World page

http://developer.sonymobile.com/dow...es/open-source-archive-for-build-10-5-a-0-233

10.5.A.0.233 Open Source Build

Enviado desde mi Sony Xperia ZL (C6502) mediante Tapatalk 4
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Apparently, pabx compared them and the 233 sources are the same as the 230 sources. See this post.

Either 233 only contains very minor fixes or it's just a carrier specific release.
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
It's 1 MB lighter? :confused:
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Really? I didn't download them myself. I was just passing on what pabx said. ☺
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
I didn't download them eather, but look at the size on their page:

http://developer.sonymobile.com/downloads/xperia-open-source-archives/
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I see alnikki replied to you in the Doomkernel thread. It seems proprietary blobs may have been modified. That hopefully may point to something essential being fixed. ?
[Xperia Z General] zeroed:
Pabx is a trustable source,but we shall see.Just weird they release source before the firmware itself.
[Xperia Z General] DeadlyDazza:
My Xperia Z sucks after the latest OTA. Stamina mode doesn't work & the battery drains up to 30% over night with all network data turned off ?
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
I hope so man, because .233 will probably be last update from Sony.
[Xperia Z General] SXZdabbler:
Is 233 definitely coming to the Z?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
It's been certified on PTCRB, but that doesn't always mean it will be released. If you look on there, there are firmwares that weren't released to consumer devices. Link

The source being published does point to a release, however, as there's no requirement to release source for internal test versions as far as I know.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Usually Sony publish the Open source archive before the update means that the update is around the corner,just like the Xperia M,so the update should be rolling out in few more days... :D
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Yes, usually. For 230 they took over 2 weeks after release though and being that the actual kernel source in 233 is identical, they probably decided to just do the work for the 233 source at the same time and publish it.

Hopefully they will release soon though and the minor issues I have with 230 will be fixed. ☺
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
I'm hoping them to give us an 4.4.3 update asap.

But of course,we will only get it after the rest of the Z Series get it.
[Xperia Z General] SalamiQueen:
Resolved
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Edit - Deleting post as I was probably in the wrong. Disregard.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Delete
[Xperia Z General] SONiX-GERMANY:
Do you have finally found a solution for your prob? I've got the same config as you, .101 rooted, relocked bl and debloated/freezed a bit. App updates came OTA, but it says "no sys update available" , no error message like "sys update failed" , simply not available. The son get the .230 update about 3 weeks ago, same town, same provider, not rooted. Curious.

Sent from my Xperia Arc S running Xperia UltraZ v2 Rom
[Xperia Z General] fards:
FYI

I've just grabbed the .230 and 233 source, they are identical in everyway except timestamps, there's no changed binaries, code or anything else.

The .230 is 5/6/2014 16:32:38

The .233 is 10/6/2014 07:45:11

(UK dateorder)

The mentioned 1mb file difference is probably a typo on their site, the tar.bz2 are 9kb different in terms of file size..

So what differences are coming in .233 aren't kernel based.
[Xperia Z General] joeyxl:
i think the only changes if there is any, it very tiny bugs non-battery related. new play services update will fix this.
[Xperia Z General] colacin:
I have not found a solution - but haven't spent much time trying, either. Renewed my contract and have Z2 now, so the Z might either get sold or just be a device to hack around on.
[Xperia Z General] prueba01:
still waiting for 233...... Is it necessary to have installed 230 ? do you know ?
[Xperia Z General] nemer12:
Well lads I think that this was it for our phone :) !
[Xperia Z General] anagramgenius:
It is rolling out for Austria 3AT. May be a carrier specific version.
[Xperia Z General] prueba01:
Has anyone tried the AU 233 rom yet ?
[Xperia Z General] jerryhou85:
Too bad... seems Google Play Service is still gonna be a problem.
[Xperia Z General] mancycro:
omg i cant wait for .233 :eek:
[Xperia Z General] Billykov:
All of us know. The root problem is not in our rom but in the AOSP system Google Player Service is buggy. I Only Google can fix it. I let's face the true. I I downgraded and waiting for real fix.
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Root Problem?

---------- Post added at 11:24 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:24 AM ----------

There is nothing new in . 233 my friend
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
I'm sure(think)he meant the actual problem, the root of the problem.
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
May B. Leave That...
[Xperia Z General] Billykov:
All of us know. The root problem is not in our rom but in the AOSP system Google Play Service. I Only Google can fix it. let's face the true. I downgraded and waiting for real fix.

I mean obviously MAIN PROBLEM
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
That's not root problem my friend.. That's Battery Drain Issue..
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
It's a figure of speech. It means it's the main cause of the problems. He doesn't mean it's anything to do with root/superuser. ?
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Ok.. Let It B
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Happy to. Was just trying to halt the repeated misunderstanding caused by a figure of speech that's obviously not well known to non native English speakers as it appeared it was going to continue on and on until someone explained what it meant.

Cheers and have a good day. ?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nextelbuddy:
I was wondering if anyone else was having issues with greenify lately? I have noticed that apps that are supposed to be hibernating are not hibernating or waking back up on their own.

For example, I will greenify all apps with the hibernate widget button (not to mention that many apps that i'm trying to hibernate are already added to the hibernate list in hibernate to begin with). the widget will pop up and say XXX apps have been hibernated. then i press the widget again and it says nothing to be hibernated good, I put the device to sleep and leave it alone.

several min later I wake it back up, press the hibernate button again and the same apps that I hibernated just a few min prior are now saying they are hibernating again.

Since i have not woke the device or used it since my last hibernation, why are those apps back awake again?

just weird and not working like its supposed to.

Im trying to nail down this battery drain issue after switching to tmobile and this is something unrelated that I noticed.

many thanks in advance for any help or advice.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
thats just how android works. certain conditiins will call up apps(like signal change, location change, etc). greenify cant stop those. theres an app called autostarts where you can disable those conditions where certain apps are called upon.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nextelbuddy:
I'd almost agree with you except for the fact that when you greenfy apps like Facebook, and in facebook you have it set to no notifications, no chat etc nothing.. and you greenify it.. it should stay OFF until you open it again especially if i have not used the phone and its idle and no apps have been opened to call it. thats the whole point of greenify... hibernate apps until YOU open or call them. i wouldn't use it if it was just to "snooze" apps until they wake up when ever they want. thats just plain useless and it never happened before with my device. I loved greenify because apps remained OFF until i opened them.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
You're not alone, i think it happens to everyone. I get this with shazam and some other apps, they just find a way to "wake up" i guess.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
for example, here are just some of the conditions apps get called up, no matter what you have set in settings. and an example of some apps that i have installed that get called up when connectivity changes. notice i disabled a lot..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lesp4ul:
There are many causes that wake an app even we disabled autostart, disable based on event (network change, app install/uninstall, phone call, sms, time, location, triggred from another app, etc), greenify etc. It always has a "hidden" wakeup call. Donate version of greenify does has 'reveal hidden sync' feature. So it will better handles hibernation.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] howard bamber:
No mines great

Ten min cutoff app.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] interkin3tic:
I'm thinking of buying the phone, but I wanted first to make sure that it would be easy to root. The note 3 via AT&T evidently went unrootable due to a recent update, is there any chance that AT&T will do/has done the same thing with the M8? I see nothing about the AT&T version being similarly locked down, and from HTC's webpage it looks like they support unlocking the bootloader, but I was hoping for someone to be able to say "Yes, as of today, the fifth of june, the HTC one M8 purchased from AT&T will be rootable fairly easily" before I plunked down a bunch of money and signed another contract.

My second question is: has anything changed with tethering (on an unlimited plan)? I've been tethering for years with my galaxy S2 skyrocket no troubles. I again wanted positive confirmation that this was possible and safe to do on the M8 (IE without AT&T deciding data through the phone should cost more than data TO the phone or that I should be downgraded to a more expensive capped plan.)
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] GermanGuy:
Everything works - rooting, unlocking bootloader, s-off, tethering
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] johnnyutah22:
1. Yes, as of today, June 5th, purchased from att, the latest firmware on the phone is rootable, s-off, etc. The recent update did not prevent the htcdev unlock method.

2. That's unanswerable from my standpoint. Tethering is enabled and does not require a separate plan if you use the tether mod on the forums, however, I would be wary of anyone who tells you that att can't see your specific data use. That being said, I've tethered on my plan since 2010 without issue and have not seen any indication that anything has changed with the M8.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] TheEmpyre:
I can verify that they are able to somehow detect when you are tethering - I got slapped on the wrist for doing this last year. I had one of those fancy unlimited data plans and so I decided to start tethering while I was waiting for the cable company to install internets at my new apartment and I got a nice call telling me to stop tethering or that they would 'add a tethering package' to my device. I switched to mobile share value plan and I'm saving money and I can tether without any BS anyways....not that it matters but I complained that its BS they can decide what you do with your data
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
Detection

of tethering is done of the network side, and is not device specific. The phone (ROM) only limits

whether you can tether or not

; which is easily circumvented on a modded phone by either flashing the tether hack, or just about any non-AT&T stock rooted ROM, or custom ROM.

Its not known for certain how exactly AT&T determines you are tethering or not. Folks here who are smarter than me have commented that the data packets are tagged as tethered, and AT&T can easily detect this. How they actually enforce is another matter, they don't seem to bust everyone who tethers. It seems they go somewhat by amount of tethered data.

I've been tethering for years on a grandfathered unlimited data plan, like the OP. But only very small amounts. Usually just when I travel, and need to access email at locations when I can't connect to WiFi or a LAN. I'm talking may just a couple hundred MB of data a month (or less). Tether large amounts of data and you will almost surely be caught. Keep a low profile, and your changes are good you will stay under the radar. Many here will report similar experiences as myself.

As the OP has been tethering on their previous phone for years, I would expect tethering to go the same on the M8.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] jae2014:
I just upgraded to the HTC one from the note 3 and I was wondering if windroid is what you use to root the htc one m8 on att?

Sorry I'm pretty slow when it comes to this stuff.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
You

can

use WIndroid or Hasoon2000's toolkit. But to be frank, the toolkits don't do anything you can't accomplish yourself "manually".

Now if the question is did

I

specifically use a toolkit to root, the answer would be NO.

Using a toolkit robs you of a valuable learning experience, and therefore I don't personally recommend it. Without learning how to use the various tools and processes, you are ill equipped to troubleshoot or self-recover if/when things go south when modding the phone.

A similar question folks like to ask is "what is the easiest/fastest way to root" when in fact they should be asking "what is the best way". My answer to the latter question would be to do the steps manually: unlock bootloader, install custom recovery, and either flash SU/SuperSU or flash a rooted ROM.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] jae2014:
First, I want to thank you for your response. I wish I could give you more than one 'thanks' lol.\

Yeah, I downloaded one of the tool kits and was messing with it a bit and realized that what you're saying is completely true. The toolkits are nice but not a necessity. I will do as you suggested so that I can do this the best way. :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tonydt1g3r:
I been trying to use the voice recorder for conversations but it doesnt work well at all. Is there something I am missing? Do I need to use 3rd party software? Can anyone help me out please.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] GldRush98:
That's as good as it gets.

There is no internal hardware method of recording conversations. It has to be done through software listening to the phone's speaker from the mic.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Menneisyys:
Read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1 , it answers all your q's.
[Pebble] jakereeves31:
So, I'm really thinking about buying the Pebble Steel. Is it really worth the $250 though? Also, would you guys say this is the best smartwatch available on the market right now? Any feedback is appreciated!
[Pebble] somnambulator:
i can't say it's the best because I've used none others and i can't say u should buy one because i don't know what you're after.

the pebble steel is, imo, a watch-lover's smartwatch. it has the design of a quality watch (besides the cheap bands). i have no interest in having a computer on my wrist, but having a remote screen to view my phone? yes please, and that's exactly what pebble makes. the steel is priced like a typical quality dumb watch. $200-300 is a good price for a well made watch with accurate time keeping and solid build quality. there does not exist another smartwatch that looks like a regular watch, that I can wear with a pair of cargo shorts, a suit, and a tuxedo. hell I don't have a dumb watch I'd wear with all attire. I basically wanted a better watch, and the steel, along with watch apps and the 3rd party pebblebits firmware has given me exactly what I want.

it's not perfect, but app and firmware updates are steady and bugs are being fixed. I don't think I could be any happier with it unless it took standard size bands.

Sent from Tapatalk using my xposed VZW G2 :)
[Pebble] dsmpampis:
Yes it's worth it but better wait a little bit for the new moto 360. They say that the 360 it will cost the same as the Pebble.

Tapatalked with my "refrigerator look" HTC one M8
[Pebble] Thela7:
If know already know what the Pebble is capable of, and want to pay extra for the finishing (I didn't like the first version. It looked more like a gadget toy rather than a watch), then go for the steal.

The Sony one is also pretty cool, but the steal is the best looking (so far)

Sent by smoke signals, then translated to Morse, and digitized by Monkeys.
[Pebble] Memnonama:
Given how easily my original Pebble's screen gets marked up, the Gorilla Glass on the Steel sounds like a good idea.

That said, I'd also suggest waiting for the Motorola 360. What you can do with the Pebble is (unfortunately) so limited.
[Pebble] jakereeves31:
Thanks for all the feedback guys! So I went ahead and bought the Pebble Steel! I figure if I wait for the 360 then I might end up spending the money that I have set aside for a watch on something else. Haha. If I decide I want the 360 later I can just sell the Pebble and pay the difference. I'm an impatient guy. Haha.
[Pebble] corshanpay:
I've found it easier to McGyver my own custom high quality band to cure the cringe I get from the band that came with the device.

http://pic.twitter.com/IhefrWXwHu