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[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
ASPRO vs. Friends With Molly

This is a comparative type of review. I will use my collection of songs to test out the audio effects of these files.

Audio Setup:

Skullcandy Hesh 2 headphones

Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 3

V4A

Extreme Beats Studio

Walkman Player

The Schism ROM kitkat 4.4.4

Song used for this review:

Only with the convolver setting enabled:

1. Feel No Pain by Sade

2. Honeymoon Avenue by Ariana Grande

3. Seven Devils by Florence + The Machine

4. You by Raheem Devaughn

5. Don't Tweet This by Tech N9ne

With both convolver and DDC on:

1. Dirty Desire by Utada

2. Get Buck by Stevie Stone

3. Stupify by Disturbed

4. Get Lucky by Daft Punk featuring Pharrell

5. 808 Bendin' by Stevie Stone featuring Tech N9ne

Convolver, DDC and.....

VHS+

1. Chocolate Salty Balls by Isaac Hayes

2. Night Time by Krizz Kalico

Tube Simulator

1. Nothing Can Come Between Us by Sade

2. On And On by Utada

Cure Tech:

1. The Fall by The Weeknd

2. Turn Down For What by Lil Jon & DJ Snake

Combined:

1. Run Dry ( X Heart X Fingers) Patrick Stump

2. Say It Right by Nelly Furtado

3. Fancy Footwork by Chromeo

Only Irs file test:

ASPRO has a very clear sound but not a clean sound. The highs are a little harsh resulting in a hissing sound with some songs. Friends With Molly has a cleaner sound due to the lack of harshness in the highs. Both have a solid mid range sound. Both also have an excellent bass response that is clear and packs a punch. With just the convolver setting Friends With Molly is the better sounding file.

With DDC:

The highs in ASPRO are still harsh but not like the previous test. Friends With Molly has a better bass response with DDC on. The bass loses some power with DDC on for ASPRO(select songs experience this). Song 2 was the only song in this test that I detected a faint harshness in the highs of FWM. Friends With Molly wins this round.

Combined settings test:

ASPRO with VHS+ the highs are still harsh but more bearable. VHS+ gave Friends With Molly a slight boost in audio. Both still have a clean bass response. Tube Simulator pretty much trimmed the highs of ASPRO so it isn't harsh. Despite that there is still a slight hissing sound with some songs. Tube simulator spoils the sound of FWM a little bit. No difference in sound with cure tech on. With the combined settings test Friends With Molly sounds better because of the lack of harshness in the highs.

Verdict:

For me at least ASPRO will require a lot of tweaking to overcome the harsh highs. Friends With Molly requires less tweaks. Maybe with the upcoming audio mod from vinardo will help with the sound.
[Android Software Development] SuperVee3:
On my HTC One ASPRO was sounding harsh. Gave up on tweaking it yesterday and went back to listening to my Note 3. ASPRO sounds great with the setup I have. I'll mess with my One later and probably check out Friends with Molly or go back to XHR StudioMaster FX since that sounded great on my One.. My One is my main phone while my Note is just my multimedia device.
[Android Software Development] 2545:
Very interesting that so many variables can contribute to the quality of sound including the type of device. ASPRO sounds fantastic on my note 2. Not harsh at all but sounds like all sounds have been unclogged and free flowing. Absolutely best yet I've used so far on my device.
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
This instance I think the individual and the headphones we use are the difference. You,me and supervee all have devices known for having good sound quality. I have the Hesh 2 headphones and its already tweaked towards the mid and high range audio sounds.
[Android Software Development] SuperVee3:
Just curious, what irs do u mainly use?
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
For headphones Friends With Molly as for speakers HNH Audio or Surround 7.1 & LFE.
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
Is HNH Audio included in your collection you shared before?
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
If you are referring to the one posted in the EBS thread then yes. HNH is good for music but sounds better for watching videos with the speakers. I recall the HNH is a mix of Heaven High End,No Cabinet and HTC Beats Audio irs files.
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
No, I mean from post #391

But could you be so kind and give me link for the ones in ebs thread? ;)
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
irs files
[Android Software Development] BSDgeek_Jake:
ASPRO + Radsone Created an Awesome experience in Music Listening. Who wants a seperate DAP or DAC?

sent from S5 Exynos 5422 HMP
[Android Software Development] TotallyAnxious:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.radsone.audio&hl=en are you talking about that?
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
That is exactly what he is talking about. I heard great things about it so I will now try it.
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
Trying right now, something really close to Noozy, really worth money..

Effects are clearly noticeable, presets are good settled with genres.. UI is bit hard to understand at beginning

But still, almost all of these features can be replicated with v4a or irs files, so I'll stand with My Cloud Player
[Android Software Development] demon28:
I'm curious is any one getting a fc on boot I get one for dolby sound looked at some of the post and got nothing similar any know or have experience with this I'm on EOF 20 TW-SEC RUNNING TWEAKED V3.0 and compulsion V15 and viper4 Android V2.3.3.0
[Android Software Development] Ramondel:
+1
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
Actually no as the irs files are static audio effect files and highly dependent on its creator's ability to create the desired effects. There isn't any sound stage feature in v4a. Also V4A uses a conventional EQ which can be a pain to use. There is also no preamp function in the EQ of v4a but there is an output gain which is a little different than preamp gain. There is no actual DNS type feature in v4a but you can get something similar in tube simulator and cure tech. Basically V4A don't exactly have Radone features but can be requested and it takes some diligence on the creators part to exactly replicate Radone features in a irs file. In reality Radone has some features that are in line with Neutron.
[Android Software Development] TotallyAnxious:
How's the album art finder on Radone? is there an option to pick it yourself from google or something? I'd check myself but I don't have time and would rather not spend the money yet til I have time.
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
Unfortunately it isn't implemented as of yet. The devs seem to be more focus on the sound quality, low battery consumption and the ui. You can view lyrics to the song. Now if only it can read my FLAC files.

---------- Post added at 06:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:09 PM ----------

In viper I have DDC,Friends With Molly irs file,tube simulator,VHS+ Level 2 and Cure Tech with limit threshold at -10.5 dB and output gain at -3.0 dB. With Radsone I have Radsone Details set to Dynamic. As I am writing this I am listening to Eminem's Rap God and it sounds amazing.
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
I hear crackling with irs files. In particular I use friends with molly or the new one ASPRO.
[Android Software Development] demon28:
Is there a way around it or did I flash something wrong?
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
Be sure you aren't using spectrum extension
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
ASDPE Prototype is up :)

The mod is still WIP

I'm busy these days. I'll release the mod with AROMA Installer and uninstallation support after I've finished the script.

Download the attachment below. And report whether you notice any differences with EOF or not :)

Thanks

Also, as a bonus, here's the Aperture Science Psychoacoustics Spectrum Maximizer (ASPSM) IRS - attachment below
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
Downloading, I'll let you know my results :)
[Android Software Development] churapa:
Perfect timing, as I am preparing to flash a new ROM from scratch, should I be aware of it not being compatible with Samsung devices?

Well, I guess the only way to find out is flashing it, lol :silly:
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Lol I don't know if it's compatible with TW. If not compatible, I'll make TW version too, just like EOF.

I'm also going to flash a new ROM lol. Battery drain issues :p
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
I don't have Dolby FC problem. It's installed correctly too. But, I'll see if it will FC on another ROM or not :)

Not all ROMs may run it correctly, as already said
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
ASDPE + ASPSM = Holy God it's amazing :good:

Softer bass, nicer clarity, midrange is more noticeable for me, ASPSM is better tweaked than ASPRO for sure

Amazing, great job [MENTION=5160317]Vinardo_ZzZ 2000[/MENTION] :)
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Nice. Enjoy your new sound :D
[Android Software Development] EJerVJerO:
On cm11 not sure why but new mod does same as foe when going to settings from drop down it doesn't work.
[Android Software Development] TotallyAnxious:
Are dynamic tiles on? Specifically the equalizer one.

Revised explanation: Dynamic tiles are tiles that only show up during certain system events. If you have an alarm set an alarm tile will show. There is a dynamic tile that shows up when music is playing and is for the system equalizer. If you have status bar/quick setting issues then disable the equalizer dynamic tile.
[Android Software Development] EJerVJerO:
Sweet worked! Issue resolved!
[Android Software Development] BSDgeek_Jake:
correct.

sent from S5 Exynos 5422 HMP
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
[MENTION=354265]vina[/MENTION]rdo I wish there was something you could do for a non rooted phone I'm missing your mod I've not had chance to root I'm waiting for a software update for my m8 before rooting to save flashing custom firmware as I'm not sure which one I need to flash
[Android Software Development] adil089:
So do you have to flash the prototype with EOF?
[Android Software Development] nick123ablxx32:
Just flashed ASPDE.... So far everything is going awesome sound is crisp and clear ?

Great Job ?

edit: lost speaker audio N5
[Android Software Development] MetalOllie:
Does EOF need to be removed for the new mod, does it replace it or will it run alongside it?

Cheers!
[Android Software Development] lzk123:
Is the ASDPE compatible with extremebeats studio and viper4android?
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
It doesn't, but I think it's recommended to flash it over clean flash of rom

Why it shouldn't? :p works pretty well
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
[MENTION=5160317]Vinardo_ZzZ 2000[/MENTION]

I have to ask, what did you change from EOF to this project?
[Android Software Development] churapa:
Flashed it twice and both times stuck at upgrading apps screen, I guess we need to have a TW version, sorry!
[Android Software Development] ahrion:
Which device are you running?
[Android Software Development] churapa:
Samsung Galaxy I337 (S4 AT&T Version for USA).
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
Tested the new audio mod and it sounds great. FYI I am using a ROM called The Schism which is based off Mahdi ROM.
[Android Software Development] leo.riv:
[MENTION=5160317]Vinardo_ZzZ 2000[/MENTION]

After flashing ASDP Prototype install V4 drivers and rebooted

after reboot when i open the V4 it asks me to install drivers again.

then replaced libeffects.so with rom libeffects.so and got bootloop

I used this method previously that time it work but this time no luck
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
Fix permissions.. That's probably the problem
[Android Software Development] leo.riv:
Thanks but

I used this method but no luck
[Android Software Development] 2545:
ASPSM vs ASPRO:

On my bass lacking new 500vm earphone, I prefer ASPRO which gives me soft low freq bass with just the right amount of mids. ASPSM does have weaker bass and stronger mids.
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
I actually prefer mid-boosting irs files, MDR-ZX300 have pretty decent bass but lack of mid tones
[Android Software Development] SuperVee3:
Using Friends with Molly on my HTC One M7 and listening to "Boogie Down Bronx" by Man Parrish. Sweet how I can hear what theyre saying in the background. Since having sound mods on my phone I find myself enjoying myself at home listening to music on my headphones. Don't even care to go out or do anything. Now when I'm at the gym the music definitely gets me going.

Man Parish - Boogie Down Bronx: http://youtu.be/r0L_AVc1OjE
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
I picked Tru Theater Surround Headphone Theater, Sony HiFi & Laconic V Groove, Sonic Field FX and Sonic Blaster as the basis for Friends With Molly for a more dynamic sound and vinardo did a great job with the file. I know how to make irs files but don't have the right setup to make them so my request are based on mashups of effects that I would have tested out using convolver software.
[Android Software Development] Artc0re:
Where can i find friends with molly i dont have it in the complete package?
[Android Software Development] SuperVee3:
I wouldn't know where to start to making a irs sound. I know what I want but then I usually end up picking too many lol. But u did a great job with the choices for Friends with Molly. I hate testing all the different ones because I find myself always tweaking instead of just enjoying the music. Vinardo did a awesome job making it.

---------- Post added at 12:22 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:21 AM ----------

It's in Vinardo's google drive in the first post
[Android Software Development] thucoisao:
ASDPE gives me no sound on my N5.
[Android Software Development] le vien:
Flash Prototype then it stuck at Starting apps! My Note ii on DN3 ROM. Hope TW version release soon!
[Android Software Development] roulley:
No problem upon flashing asdpe, I really like the sound characteristic of your new mods, I think it is more colorful
[Android Software Development] SagiTHORus_:
Dear OP ,

Firstly , thanks for your hard work

But i'm here to inform you that your new mod Aperture Science Digital Psychoacoustics Engine (ASDPE) caused my status bar to crash whenever i pull it down . I had done various " experiments " & yeah , it's really the cause of it i don't know why ..:o

I'm using CM11 on Galaxy W .
[Android Software Development] TotallyAnxious:
Disable the dynamic equalizer tile. I've explained the fix a couple of times. Assuming you mean it crashes when you try to access your tiles. @Vinardo_ZzZ 2000, maybe add the fix for this occasional bug to the first post?
[Android Software Development] JpDany:
Hey vinardo..could u modify "friends with Molly" for Sony Ericsson st18i(Ray) and Sony MDR-EX220 earphones?? I know the headphone is in DDC list but I could reduce the load on my phone using these tweaks..
[Android Software Development] adil089:
Thanks it worked for me.:thumbup:
[Android Software Development] SagiTHORus_:
Thanks , it solved the problem !
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
That won't solve the issue as now you have a battery consumption issue with irs files. Irs files drain battery more then the DDC setting. Your phone has a single core processor so at best you can use viper in high quality driver mode. Super quality mode requires a minimum dual core processor. So basically your phone is ill-equipped to handle the more power hungry settings of viper so don't use those settings.

FYI the irs files will have the same battery drain with all devices regardless of which irs files you use. DDC will require a lot of CPU power regardless of the device.
[Android Software Development] SuperVee3:
I have V4A running fine on a Motorola Droid and HTC Evo Design 4G with Super Quality.
[Android Software Development] jonny30bass:
Forgive me for the noob question, but how do I enable ASDPE after flashing it? I flashed it and then when going back into Viper4Android it said that it needed to install the driver again. So I did, but it seems like V4A just replaced ASDPE.
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
I am not saying it won't work. I am saying that his request won't solve his problem. Both phones ESPECIALLY the Droid are known for great battery life to at least handle the convolver setting which does drain battery life. The DDC setting while it doesn't drain battery life it does consume power from the CPU. If he does have the app in super quality mode then he should not use those settings to ease the load of both the CPU and battery.
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
You don't enable it as it is a systemwide mod meaning once flashed it is automatically enabled. Also v4a didn't replaced the other mod it just reinstall its own driver. If you look at the build prop you will noticed a bunch of lines added by vinardo's mod.
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
In on aicp it's a great ROM very customisable but I must admit I like to be up to date it may be die to the fact all my previous phones were to old and could not get updated much because of hardware so it's nice to be up to date for me lol
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
Have you tried its nightly builds?
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
I see. I haven't tried Ice Cold Project as the op didn't list any features of the rom. Maybe I should try it :)
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
It's very feature rich they are making test builds for 4.4.3 at the moment I having updated yet as I use an unofficial version with archdroid flags it's amazingly fast it's built with the sm toolchain I believe so in waiting for my dev to update I just hope v4a works lol
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
I am currently using Nameless ROM 4.4.3 everything works including v4a.
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
I've tried BeanStalk before. They're also packed with features (even the useless ones), but not polished. It's fast enough. Thanks for the info. I'll try the rom. It's currently V4.0 and still 4.4.2 :)
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Is it the rom's name or the rom's nameless?

I mean is it really called "Nameless ROM"?

Usually audio problems are related to the audioflinger. Nowadays AOSP roms uses LPA feature hardcoded to audioflinger. You cannot turn it off with audioflinger mod
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
That's the stable release it's a but old now nightleys are bang up to date
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Thanks for the information. I'll check it out...

By the way, added SonicPhantom TheaterFX HD. But maybe FideliBASS is still a better choice for you. This one's for extreme clarity :)
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
That is the ROM name.
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
Sounds like it would be good for movies though
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Yeah. Should be. For games too :)
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
Just listening to some reggae with v2 is awsome in hearing things in the music I hadn't noticed before gets me wondering what your v3 you mentioned will sound like they just keep getting better honestly v2 sounds like in at the concert
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Yeah. Just wait. I'm getting things ready. Then I'll make V3 :) It should be better
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
No rush that want what I meant it's every time you make another it's better and better thank you
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Oh. It's ok. I've started to make it :)
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Added CrystalBASS HD (formerly FideliBASS) - clarity should be about 12-18% higher, a bit deeper bass and resonance, and more elevated vocals :)

[MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION], check it out :)
[Android Software Development] smeejaytee:
Just installed I'll let you know as soon as I get chance to test also could you do another for internal speaker more fidelity and louder less bass please that would be great the first one is good Burr you said you may be able to better it thanks in advance
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Yeah of course :)

Wait. Can you tell me what bass frequencies you want to reduce? 100Hz-200Hz? I'll filter out bass below 100Hz for consistent loudness :)
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Snap. I got problems with the deconvolution. Maybe this will be done tomorrow, as I'm going to sleep too. Sorry, [MENTION=5463312]smeejaytee[/MENTION]. But, I'm sure, it will be done tomorrow :)
[Android Software Development] JpDany:
I use high quality setting..from my experience, both high and super quality resulted in nearly same level of battery drains..moreover, I don't care about battery drains as I simply love music... I just need the irs file so that I could use it directly with minimum tweaks..
[Android Software Development] jmxc23:
I also use Friends With Molly irs file(its only fitting to use the file I requested) with vinardo's audio mod and only use the following tweaks:

DDC

Tube Simulator

Cure Tech

VHS+

That is it another audio mod plus v4a with five features enabled. Another audio mod may eliminate the need of some of the v4a features.
[Android Software Development] JpDany:
Never mind... I'm satisfied with psychoacoustics irs
[Android Software Development] Deepak.Gangwar:
unable to use these irs on nexus 5

I am using vaniraosp rom and v4a, drivers for v4a are installed properly, other irs and options are working in v4a but none of your irs is being processed by v4a,

what should i do? :confused:
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
I've explained similar issue in post #1511
[Android Software Development] Deepak.Gangwar:
Awesome Man, It worked... thanks alot... :highfive:
[Android Software Development] lilmikeyv:
Reading back a couple of pages it seems like the new mod is not compatible with Samsung TouchWiz yet... Is this still true?
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
How to download irs because all I can open is my own google drive account.. Help please..
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
True

Use PC or open folder via browser, not through drive app..
[Android Software Development] _moelle:
new irs file sound really really awesome on my Beyerdynamic DTX 102 iE using VanirRom on HTC ONE m8. (Installed ProjectEra 19.1 before and using Viper4Android, but new ASDPE Prototype seems to work just fine on top!) great man, sound is rocking! keep ´em up!
[Android Software Development] Dbj.Dhaval:
Tried with chrome also opera
[Android Software Development] //.dax:
Show desktop version of page, if it still won't work, you need to use PC
[Android Software Development] _moelle:
Tried it on m8 gpe...doesnt work
[Android Software Development] jonny30bass:
WOW. Friends With Molly is one of the best IRS that I have ever used. Very nice. It goes well with my Apple Earpods (iP5).
[Android Software Development] StinkyToilet:
Ok. I've optimized ASDPE. For people with problems with the standard version, this one might work for you :)

This version is extremely lighter (less than 4MB). But, I don't know if there will be a big gap on the sound quality differences with the standard version. Test and report :)
[Android Software Development] _moelle:
Tested on m8 running tasks unofficial aokp ....both version are working without issues. But there is some proper difference of enhancement between both mods. With light version installed, the max loudness is not as far as loud as on using the old version. Bass power also not as powerfull as old ones but all in all still great enhancement of sound.

Tried both in combination with walkman mod of ibanez ( dunno the correct spelling right now ) ...+ clear audio+ enabled.
[Android Software Development] aakazh:
Will it conflict with viper

Coz I had to reinstall the viper drivers ?
[Android Software Development] TotallyAnxious:
No you're fine
[Android Software Development] churapa:
You should worry if you hadn't had to re install them (V4A drivers tha is) as your music effects.conf has been changed.
[Android Software Development] aakazh:
But there's a problem music halts for a while then continues

Why so