yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z2 Android Development] funky0308:
Tnx for answering...

I'm using that same tool, version 5 and my del_odex.sh is different...

I tried to edit it (to be like yours, which is working) but nope...still bootloop...

I'll try to zipalign apks and if that failed maybe to try with a v4?

Tnx again :)
[Xperia Z2 Android Development] Envious_Data:
[MENTION=4816245]funky0308[/MENTION]

Take note i think a couple of odex files are needed for some framework jar files, not sure which ones but they cause a bootloop if they arent there
[Xperia Z2 Android Development] funky0308:
Yeahhh...

But that's only NFC dex...and I have that one...

Really strange..

But OK, won't spam your thread with my problems - thanks for help mate ?
[Xperia Z2 Android Development] Ben Ling:
same,I'm using V5

1.You must copy the whole system,framework & priv-app folder to deodex_install_kitkat >system folder

2.Open the .bat & press number 3

3.Then wait for it to finish

4.Choose number 4,then it should work

5.You can also choose to zipalign the apks before zipping them
[Xperia Z2 Android Development] funky0308:
I pulled files via ADB and all went well, all dex, except nfc were deodexed but when I flashed it I stuck into bootloop...

I'll try to pull apps manually... ;)
[Xperia Z2 Android Development] fakelouis_:
Do you have deodexer for 17.1.1.A.0.438? :D
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
ROM - 4.4.2 - Tomcat V2 - XXUFNC9 - Aroma - 24/05/2014 - THEMED - KNOX FREE

After the M3A1 ROM I'm back with my personnal Rom : The Tomcat ROM

stable - clean - fast

SCREENSHOTS

​

Version Information

Status: Stable

Current Stable Version : V2

Stable Release Date : 2014-05-24

The Tomcat Rom includes Xposed and Wanam Xposed To manage the centering of the time and Kill Apps button

BootAnim TomCat

Changelog

BootAnim sound mute

add Dolphin Browser

Update Google apps (Chrome - Gmail - PlayStore - Services)

Les applications Modded :

SystemUI

SecSettings

Framework

twFramework

Wallpaper

Lockscreen

Claviers

Phone

Contacts

SMS

SamsungCamera2

Browser

SecGallery2013

SecLauncher3

Gmail	Update 23/05/2014

Chrome	Update 23/05/2014

Dolphin	Update 23/05/2014

PlayStore	Update 23/05/2014

Choice between 2 keyboards (Silver - Stock) and 4 styles of batteries (Tomcat / Jauge / Circle or Stock)

Applications choice

Google

Chrome

Gmail

Maps

Play Music

Google Plus

Google Search

Hangouts

YouTube

Samsung

Samsung Link - Allshare

Dropbox

Group Play

Samsung Video	Update 23/05/2014

Photo Retouching

WatchON

S Translator

Polaris Viewer

Optical Reader

SMemo

Voice Recorder

S-Voice

Widget

Android Meteo

Horloge Xperia

Digital Clock Samsung

SPlanner App Widget

Other

ES Explorer	Update 23/05/2014

QuickPic	Update 23/05/2014

WalkMan - Music Player Sony Xperia

Dolphin Browser

Facebook

Flashplayer

BarcodeScanner

Screen_Recorder

DOWNLOAD

Tomcat_XXFNC9_V2

MEGA

Android File Host

1.35 Go

it's not necessary to flash the new BootLoader, or a new modem to install this ROM

You are solely responsible for what you do with your device.
​

You need Have

Samsung Galaxy S4 GT-i9505

Custom Recovery, like PhilZ

75% loaded battery

USB Drivers for I9505

Download the Tomcat Rom and copy on external SD

Try to avoid old rom backups to be as clean as possible

INSTALLATION INSTRUCTIONS

Download Tomcat V2 Rom

Copy on External SD

Boot in recovery

Backup Your Old Rom

Recommended Recovery: PhilZ Touch

In Philz recovery use the Following Options: Wipe Data/ Factory Reset/ Clean to Install a New Rom

Install Zip (from either external or internal SD depending on where you chose to save the Rom)

Follow Aroma’s Installer instructions

Reboot and Enjoy

SPECIAL THANKS

First I want to thank ALAN (PYRANA) for his help and advice without which I would not have been able to lead this project.

Jeje for his support and testing

Pat (Return Of Jedi) for compiling BootAnim

And all Beta-Testers who have been kind enough to flash the rom not finalized​

Signature Banners

​

[center][img]http://i56.servimg.com/u/f56/18/67/85/13/bantc210.png[/img][/center]

CREDITS​

Talexop for his Kernel Here

rovo89 for Xposed Here

wanam for WanamXposed Here

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] monkteo:
from pictures look very nice, I must try .

THX
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Be carefull try it's to adopt :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Thanks

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jejemc:
That's on :laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] s8freak:
Thank you Kris again beautiful work on a gorgeous Rom ?????

"No soup for you!Come back one year!!"

Sent from my VisionX ATT SGH-I337 rocking CCC
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Thanks for your Comment

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] JT1510365:
Nice job!

Awesome rom kris this blows me away of how much work you put in to this. Can you maybe theme a lot more apps later on as this rom develops because I love all my stock samsung apps themed! You don't have to but it would make me like your rom more!

Also, even though i selected english in aroma it's still french in aroma installer!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] sergio114:
Very thanks Man for post a New rom...ou Yeah.

Hugs.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Saint964:
rom

DL now and going to try rom.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

Thanks for your comments

It is possible to Themer all applications however each update will require a re-theme apps

The easiest would be to know which apps you'll need

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

I thank all those who have downloaded the rom

A small feedback on your impressions and tell me what could be enhanced or just say thank you would make me very happy

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Saint964:
rom

Have downloaded the rom yesterday installed kt kernel and got an lovely duration of battery and verry smooth rom, for me it would be more handy with the instalment that the englisch was better translated. But for so far so good. I like the Silver BTW not for al the icons but for a few.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Thanks for your Feddback

Jeje (the Beta Tester) tried to see how long the battery was able to hold in minimal use

he finally managed to empty....

...After 5 days and 14 h

This guy is crazy :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] ron31:
can this be installed on i337m
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

I don't think so

This is for the I9505 and I do not think the ROMs for this device is compatible with the I337m version

to be confirme by other owners I337M

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] ron31:
Ok thanks i ll wait for confirmation
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] JT1510365:
How about this?

How about you theme up the Samsung music player and the latest playstore? This would help me love your rom more. But only do it if you want to I would never demand or force someone into doing it.

Hope to hear your thoughts soon:)

Good luck with your rom!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

Thanks for you comment

The playStore is themed ans it's Up To Date as you can see in the screen below

i'll see what i can do fo the Samsung Music Apk ;)

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

I made a mod for those who want it.

I changed the icon Es Explorer as below

Screenshot

Download

Here

Installation Procedure

Delete Es Explorer Obligatory

flash the zip in recovery mode

enjoy

I'm looking for an idea for the icon Samsung Music

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] JT1510365:
Hey kris i would like to see the images inside the play store and samsung music player themed up you know the user interface of the apps. I would like that very much!

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Katia Eu:
I own an i337m and I can safely flash any rom built for i9505, at&t and t-mobile variants,so there is no problem at all, in any case, if you don´t get wifi signal for wxample, just change the kernel to talexop or KT for example. I have this rom downloaded and ready to try it out.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

Thanks for your answer

we haven't this model in europe

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

ES Explorer and Chrome were updated yesterday

below updating Modded

you just need to flash the zip in recovery

it removes the update that was downloaded and installed new versions Modded

once the flash done I recommend you to do a Wipe Dalvik and Wipe Cache

the first startup apps is a little longer this is normal;)

the MOD_Chrome_ESExplorer.zip

good flash

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] mami:
dl link please

Hi kris

Sorry to tell you but DL links not working!

Tried 3 times for Mega and 2 times from other. Result: unexpected error in zip file!

Please advise!

PS: really want to try your rom! :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

Try to download it by Firefox or chrome

I test the 2 links all are ok

Wipe your cache navigator

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
hi

did you get to download the rom or should I put it on another host ?

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] jejemc:
Hello to all small return on this rom: fluid resilience battery no sudden closure install eyes close. ;);)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Tomcat rom addon

Hi all

I created an application (WebApps) that will allow everyone to be able to change the ROM as he wants

To do this simply download the following app

Tomcat AddOn ROM HERE or directly via QRCode [IMG="QrCode"]http://chart.googleapis.com/chart?cht=qr&chs=100x100&choe=UTF-8&chld=H|0&chl=http://goo.gl/kxqTpb[/IMG]

It installs like any app

To work it is necessary to have a wifi or 3/4G access

to access to the different section of the app there is a menu accessible at the bottom of each page

To download a file simply click on the icon selected

bottom of each page a button [?] allows access to each item using (In french sorry)

I tried to do something simple and effective

ScreenShoot Apps

Launcher Icon

[IMG="Launcher Icon"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/110.png[/IMG]

[IMG="Splash Screen"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/210.png[/IMG] [IMG="Summary"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/310.png[/IMG]

[IMG="Navigation menu"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/710.png[/IMG] [IMG="BootAnims"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/610.png[/IMG]

[IMG="Wallpaper"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/410.png[/IMG] [IMG="Batteries"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/510.png[/IMG]

Added MOD SystemUI S5 - OGBattery - QuickLauncher* with or without Lock Button

[IMG="Mods"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/sysui_10.png[/IMG]

[IMG="New SystemUI S5"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/suiv4_11.jpg[/IMG] [IMG="QuickLauncher"]http://i39.servimg.com/u/f39/18/67/85/13/suiv4_12.jpg[/IMG]

* Thanks to Garry Harrington

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Nextasy:
@ kris_92fr:

Your Rom looks awesome and was just wondering if you will at any time upgrade/update the rom to the new GNF1 version?

Cheers
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Hi

I don't think so

Cause I prefer to wait for a more stable release perhap's in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4

and the FNC9 is Very Stable

But you can install a Modem and a BootLoader GNF1

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] Nextasy:
Thx for the reply and i understand. Was only thinking the GNF1 is already a stable version of 4.4.2.

Anyway, doesn't matter. Your rom is still awesome!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Thank's for your Feddback ;)

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] s8freak:
Hi Kris I just wanted you to know how much I've enjoyed your work and to let you know I've moved on to the S5 but just a word of appreciation for you and your Rom ?????

"And on that bombshell...It's time to end the show!"

Sent from my ViSiX powered AT&T 900A
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] kris_92fr:
Thanks for your trust and your kindness

Maybe we will meet on other devices

;)

Kris
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Android Development] s8freak:
I sincerely hope so??

"And on that bombshell...It's time to end the show!"

Sent from my ViSiX powered AT&T 900A
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] r_szynek:
My Dear

I have a problem after CID unlock. My Qtek show me ony bootloader screen, I try a lot of combination of reset and finally i observe on my qtek screen picture with 3 color gradient screen (red, green, blue) and USB sign in left corner.

Coud you any idea to upload ROM to my device ?

THX in advance for your help.

Robert
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] r_szynek:
Last update:

I fixed CID unlock problem, below i try explain this operation.

below manual tested ONLY with Qtek S200

If your device blocked on bootloader screen (picture with Qtek logo) please press camera button + soft reset after this operation device enter in bootloader load screen (red,green,blu gradient color)

Next plug you device by USB cable to PC (in left lower corner of the screen you will se USB text).

Last point is UPLOAD Orginal ROM to you device (very important point for example if you have German version you must upload the same version - like manufacturing relase)

.... and enjoy you Prophet :)

Robert
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
Edit (11/11/2014):

Modded 3.28.401.9 Hboot in attachments. Modded to remove red text only (Edit: Sorry, corrected it to 3.28.401.9).

Edit (11/10/2014):

Modded 3.28.401.6 Hboot by [MENTION=977332]Ambious[/MENTION] , "here".

Edit (18/08/2014):

Modded 2.22401.5 Hboots added in attachments (both versions, removed red text only & with modded with fake S-ON & "LOCKED" banner, MD5 also added)

Edit (25/07/2014):

Modded 2.22.401.4 Hboot by [MENTION=977332]Ambious[/MENTION] , here & by [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] here.

Edit (17/07/2014):

Corrected mistake in Hboots of 1.54.401.10 as per this post and attached new ZIPs, deleted old ones.

Edit (17/07/2014)-2:

2.12.401.3 hboot without red text and fake s-on here by [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION].

Edit (07/07/2014):

2.12.401.3 modified Hboot can be found here by [MENTION=977332]Ambious[/MENTION] & here by [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION].

As per the title, I modified the Hboot of 1.54.401.10 to remove the red text warning and include fake "LOCKED" & "S-ON" banners.

I take no responsibility, both worked fine on my HTC__001 m8. Proceed at you own risk.

If you do not know how to flash an Hboot, then you should NOT

.

Thanks to this guide & inspiration from [MENTION=1331268]santod040[/MENTION] here.

Edit

: As requested, added another Hboot with only the red text removed.

Can be flashed on the CID numbers listed in the "android-info.txt":

Edit2

: Added MD5 values

MD5 Checksum:

[QUOTEhboot_MOD_3.29.401.9_no_red_text_only.zip

MD5: 6aabcefc371d945380949cbee5f2f0f6

hboot_MOD_2.22.401.5_no_red_text_only.zip

MD5: 0088a29731024ebd4065269b4db47a4b

hboot_MOD_2.22.401.5_no_red_text_fake_S-ON_Locked.zip

MD5: 0a84e9efd65c1c965ca68f5a4986eb4a

]hboot_MOD_1.54.401.10_no_red_text_only.zip

MD5: 9e38f9e81f0f78eb37ed5eda84133c5c

hboot_MOD_1.54.401.10_no_red_text_fake_S-ON_Locked.zip

MD5: 757e6f4ec4e3b9139e26627bb7a7ab26[/QUOTE]

How to flash:

Directly in the phone through Hboot:

1. Rename the zip to 0P6BIMG.zip & copy it to you SD Card (the removable storage).

2. Reboot to hboot wait, then select to execute an it will update..

3. After updating, rename or delete the 0P6BIMG.zip from you SD so you don't get prompted to update again.

or

Using a PC & ADB/Fastboot:

1. Put the zip file in your fastboot/adb directory on your PC.

2. If your phone is one, use the command "adb reboot oem-78" or if your in fastboot already, use "fastboot oem rebootRUU"

3. After any of the above commands, your phone will enter the an OEM fastboot mode with an HTC logo on the screen.

4. Flash the zip using the command: "fastboot flash zip filename.zip". (filename.zip to be replaced with the name of the zip your flashing)

5. Reboot using the command: "fastboot reboot"

•Enter the following commands from terminal/command prompt in the fastboot directory, one at a time:

•fastboot oem rebootRUU (this puts the device in RUU mode)

•fastboot flash zip filename_hboot.zip (this flashes the modified hboot zip file)
[One (M8) Android Development] Onem8:
i want this without the banners...

Verstuurd vanaf mijn HTC One_M8 met Tapatalk
[One (M8) Android Development] silvercat:
Can I flash this on CID-HTC__044
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
Added to OP.

No.
[One (M8) Android Development] silvercat:
Is it possible to create one ? I can share the necessary files if u like.
[One (M8) Android Development] ahac85:
Will it work on supercid? And what would happen if you change the supercid back to default say orang001 ? Wud it result in a brick?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) Android Development] zeidof:
How can i find my own cid number?
[One (M8) Android Development] tHoMaS-1:
The easiest way is to download CID Getter from Google Play.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) Android Development] tominozh:
Flashed hboot without red text only. Worked like a charm. Thank you.
[One (M8) Android Development] atomantmk:
Yes, working without problem, you don't need to change your SuperCid.
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
I would not flash an Hboot for another CID on my phone, hence I cannot test it & you would risk your phone.

Its your phone, you can do what you want, but I don't recommend flashing an Hboot from an incompatible CID. You don't know what might happen.
[One (M8) Android Development] zeidof:
Mi cid is J15 & i flashed it via twrp recovery, but it failed, whatz the problem?
[One (M8) Android Development] stathis95194:
This is not flashable via recovery.

You should do:

fastboot oem rebootRUU

fastboot flash zip thezipfrom1stpost

fastboot reboot-bootloader

and check of red text disappeared
[One (M8) Android Development] zeidof:
Tnx dude, i did it but it failed again :(
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
You have to be S-OFF.
[One (M8) Android Development] andason:
sorry if dumb question. Is cws 001 same as HTC 001?
[One (M8) Android Development] NQNH:
no it isn't.
[One (M8) Android Development] andason:
Thanks
[One (M8) Android Development] old.splatterhand:
[MENTION=281498]omar302[/MENTION]

Thanks for the offer, good work! :good:

Little request: as you can brick your phones very easily with this files, could you be so kind and add md5 checksum of the files to first post?

This can prevent people for bad downloads!

Thanks in advance.
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
Done.
[One (M8) Android Development] monyozt:
can you add fake S-ON and Locked status for verizon user?
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
No. Sorry. Because I cannot test it hence you will risk bricking your phone.
[One (M8) Android Development] Ambious:
Just wanted to confirm working flawlessly on CID HTC__K18.

:good:
[One (M8) Android Development] ionutzm05:
I just wanted to confirm that it's 100% working on CID HTC__032. Thank you!
[One (M8) Android Development] irishj:
Worked fine here, International M8, S-Off, Super CID - Thanks !
[One (M8) Android Development] msn0005:
Hello, do you have one for HTC_622? Thanks.
[One (M8) Android Development] martinnr:
Will it work if I'm on ElementalX Kernel? My config is just like yours except for kernel and ARHD 6.1.

Edit: Forgot to mention that my phone is from AT&T but I used with another carrier in Peru
[One (M8) Android Development] dunn816:
can this work on superCID 1111111
[One (M8) Android Development] atomantmk:
I use only stock kernel and I can't answer on your question, sorry.

Yes, on my phone works.
[One (M8) Android Development] Skizzy034:
My AT&T M8 came with 1.58 FW. I unlocked and used firewater for S-Off. If I change my cid to supercid I should be able to flash this correct? Would there be any complications because it's an AT&T M8 or that it came with 1.58 originally? Like does the hboot have any effect on the radio that is on the phone (do I need an AT&T hboot for the radio?) or any other hardware in the phone? I am using Viper Rom right now and that is based on 1.54.
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
You also need to have a matching modelid, for the international version it is: 0P6B10000, I don't know what the AT&T has, not can I say if their will be any compications to flashing an Hboot for a different version of the device.
[One (M8) Android Development] carlowise:
gr8

just want to say that this works great on HTC_032 cid, and one question

can you do same fake banner for tempered flag?

thank you
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
Follow this guide to remove the tampered flag.
[One (M8) Android Development] vegetaleb:
For people who flashed .10 FW, did you notice improvements in any field like battery,heating,wifi...?
[One (M8) Android Development] carlowise:
Tnx, doesn't matter if I flashed this fw with fake banners. And I don't have super cid

Tnx
[One (M8) Android Development] s--c:
can i flash this on top of 1.54.401.05 or do i have to upgrade to 1.54.401.10 then flash this mod? thanks
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
Should work fine.
[One (M8) Android Development] s--c:
Can I flash this on top of modified hboot? Also how would I go back to unmodified hboot? Or would I have to flash stock firmware and root/s-off again? Regards?
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
Yes & yes.

Flashing an Hboot will overwrite the old one. To go to the unmodified original, flash an original Hboot (or just flash the whole stock firmware as it already includes the Hboot).
[One (M8) Android Development] s--c:
Thanks! I'll give it a try tonight. Much appreciated :)
[One (M8) Android Development] s--c:
^^^all worked thanks!!
[One (M8) Android Development] wa7eed:
Hi, my is HTC-017 & I don't know which county? is it Ok to install it?
[One (M8) Android Development] vegetaleb:
Flashing this hboot will format my internal memory?
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
If it's not in the list in the OP, then won't work without modification.

No.
[One (M8) Android Development] :
I flashed modified hboot fake s-on

and I don't remember anymore do I have supercid when I type getvar all I get this info.

C:\phonetools>fastboot getvar all

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 3.16.0.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 1.16.2133156.UA15G

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main:

(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON

(bootloader) serialno: SH

(bootloader) imei:

(bootloader) imei2: Not Support

(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000

(bootloader) product: m8_ul

(bootloader) platform: hTCBmsm8974

(bootloader) modelid: 0P6B10000

(bootloader) cidnum: HTC__032

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 0mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: off

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: 098a72e5

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

this was my original cid htc_032 Is this information changed? how can I found out do I have supercid?

tnx
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
You your phone is S-ON, you cannot change CID & you cannot flash a modified Hboot.
[One (M8) Android Development] carlowise:
Is not. I flashed this modified hboot with fake s on.

this thread is for that
[One (M8) Android Development] omar302:
"fastboot getvar all" will get the actual status of the phone regardless of fake Hboot or not.

Try flashing the other Hboot (without the fake S-ON) & see if your Hboot will show S-OFF or not.