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[Android General] pogodancer:
@ cosan

If you came from an untouched stockrom to my 2.0.3-mod your issue does not depend on the modded rom. My rom is OK. When flashing it you had all flashable parts activated in the flashtool (also bootloader), OK ? You flashed with the attached FNF-flashtool, OK ? Last idea is to use another USB-cable.

Normally I do not recommend to open the device. But under these circumstances it may be a solution. It sounds as a screen-cable got lose from the mainboard. I never opened the device (and I don't want to do it). But if you like you can find howtos about that in this thread and in the german android-hilfe.de thread.

@ kitty

Flash the latest firmware 2.0.3 - never mind if untouched stock or mod. And your problems should have gone.

@ both

Wish you good luck.
[Android General] kitty3:
thanx pogodancer because im no expert do u have a link with the firmware and guide

I did try which downloaded from ifive site but no luck it is possible im doing something wrong , i need a guide
[Android General] cosan:
Thx for answer Pogodancer :)

I flash it via Flashtool attached to original ROM. It takes about 1 min to flash. Tryed it on work and home pc with same results.

I opened tablet easy with plastic tools, but not sure where to search touch screen flex cable.
[Android General] MacArthur67:
NVRAM

Did anyone here manage to back up the NVRAM in your 3GS with MTK DroidTools? I think maybe I can get rid of my NVRAM error if I could get hold of a working NVRAM backup. Does anyone have time to try and then post the backup here? The function is labelled "TESTING MODE" in my version of MTK DroidTools but it might work?
[Android General] kitty3:
i have tried the firmware 2.0.3 with no luck i have tried the root found on geekbuying forum. Well everything was fine and i found su app . Checking tablet`s setting ,about tablet the firmware version v.1.0.7,is the same . Is there any other step ?
[Android General] MacArthur67:
Follow the instruction for flashing in the PDF documen that is included in the 2.0.3. folder. If you're still on 1.0.7 you obviously did not manage to flash 2.0.3. Follow the order exactly and then nothing (almost) can go wrong. Use the SP Flash Tool supplied in the same folder. Also install the drivers in your Win PC found in the same folder, if you don't have them installed already. Switch on USB debugging in Android System Settings -> Developer Options also. The tab must be switched off (not standby, it must be really off) when you flash.
[Android General] Silverphil:
Hi to all, and Happy New Year.

Thanks to MacArthur67's great help, I was able to finally root my tab with iRoot. It seems that the step I had missed was to disable all running cache apps before re-rooting. Quite happy with the result, I do not think therefore that I will need at this stage to flash Pogodancer's 2.0.3 ROM. Maybe if and when he introduces a Lollipop ROM...

It seems that I have also solved my battery consumption problem by using a combination of Greenify and rooted Clean Master.

The only issue left for me is to test the 128 GB SD card when received. Thanks to all for your help and a very interesting and pro-active thread.
[Android General] MacArthur67:
I'm not so sure that quitting background processes generally is a requirement for rooting, but in your case it seemed like iRoot failed because something was "in the way" for it. The exploits used by iRoot didn't work. Could have been some sort of security app that had left some process on even if the app was disabled. Anyway, I'm happy if I could help even if I'm just an Android rookie myself and have received loads of help on this forum (and a few more :) ).
[Android General] ozerec88:
Good morning! In the spanish forum where I am registered , a new user noticed yesterday about a 2.0.4 firmware in his recently arrived ifive 3gs.

Can someone verify that?? [MENTION=4546777]pogodancer[/MENTION]
[Android General] vayavalla:
Which forum?
[Android General] ozerec88:
Hispatablets
[Android General] Uxiopd:
[IMG="antutu"]http://i62.tinypic.com/2z3s8ex.jpg[/IMG]
[Android General] galvin1979:
2.0.4

Hello I'm the guy with the 2.0.4 version, the tablet works great, but i think the battery no so much, could you recommend me an app to test the battery life? I could not put the link to the picture of my tablet information screen, but if you search in google: hispatablet ifive 3gs 2.0.4, you could fin it in the 3er page.
[Android General] MacArthur67:
What is the problem with your battery? Do you mean that it drains too fast? How fast in standby? At what rate? How many % battery drain over night or per 24 h if the tab is in standby? I am sometimes using the battery monitor app GSam Battery Monitor (in paid mode, but the free mode is enough) to see where the power goes (not a battery saver app, just a monitor). If you loose more than 1% battery over night in standby it's too much and you will see where the power goes in GSam Battery Monitor. Sometimes I use a combination of GSam and the heavily battery draining benchmark mode in the 3D game engine demo Epic Citadel to see where the power goes. Many benchmark apps also have battery tests, for example AnTuTu. Charge the tab to 100%, kill all apps except AnTuTu and run the test. Then after the battery test when you start GSam you will see where the power goes.
[Android General] mexusbg:
Here you go :D
[Android General] galvin1979:
Thanks the problem with the battery was the gsm modem, i do not have a sim card but the modem still work so the battery drain to fast, i use the airplain mode and now great.
[Android General] ozerec88:
Exactly, I always have the tablet in airplane mode. Its a huge diference in battery terms
[Android General] MacArthur67:
[MENTION=6363368]galvin1979[/MENTION]
[MENTION=6201761]ozerec88[/MENTION]

My tab loose less than 5% of the battery power in 12 hours with the tab in standby, with all radios on (wifi, 2G, 3G) except BT. Most of the power is lost in the phone radios (87% of the 5%) and the wifi (4% of the 5%). I have bad reception (phone and wifi) where I keep the tab when I don't use it, so I guess it would loose much less power with better reception. I have 250 apps installed but no "battery saver" app because I don't think any such app work in any Android device. They are all spamware in my opinion. I do however use Greenify, which is a battery saver in a way.
[Android General] geertkol:
[MENTION=5994621]MacArthur67[/MENTION]

In my earlier posts you can read that i lose 1 or maximum 2 % in 24 hours when tablet is in stand-by. I get 7 hours of normal use. Greenify +Boosters Plus Battery Saver Pro is als great combination in my opinion. I do not agree that a battery saver app is spam and does not work in any android device. It is your experience but not mine. The Boosters app makes the tablet even more smoother (read more information in the google play store). I automatic shut the wifi off when smartcase is closed through an app called screen off wifi off. Enjoy your device!
[Android General] MacArthur67:
Maybe I didn't express myself clearly. English is not my native language.

My post was a reply directly to two other users who had severe battery drain and managed to save "a huge diference" by putting the tab in airplane mode. My point was that I don't save very much by putting the tab in airplane mode. In earlier posts I have talked about that I loose less than 1% in standby per day while keeping some of the radios on (usually wifi and/or GSM). In my test last night I lost less than 5% in 12 hours with the tab in stanby and wifi and phone radios on. Only BT switched off in the settings. This is no contest like "lowest powerconsumption wins". I didn't try to get lowest possible battery drain. I wrote that I have bad reception here where I store the tab when I don't use it. Maybe I should have emphasised it more clearly that I have very very bad reception here. Look at my numbers. The tab went from 100% charged to 95% charged in 12 hours and 87% of the power loss whas in the phone radios! If I do the same test where the phone reception is a bit good and also switch off wifi like you do I will come close to your 1-2% per day. But that's my point, does it matter? Do the maths. If I keep my tab in standby and wifi and phone radios on I get at least 10 days standby out of one charge. Just by putting the tab closer to a window I bet I would get 2 weeks in standby out of one charge. But who cares? Who keeps the tab only in standby? Most people use their tabs (hopefully) for what they are meant to be used for and then the screen is on. No battery saver app can save any energy in the screen without turning down the light intensity. Try how long it takes to empty a fully charged battery with nothing running but the screen on at full intesity. Even if you manage to load all cores in both CPU and GPU to full power they would probably not consume much more energy than the screen anyway.

Energy saving apps in the form that "works" in unrooted devices are total fake in my opinion because when the device is in use most of the energy is lost in the screen illumination and in the actual process that you are using. Surf the web and read a news article here and there and it's >95% screen. Play a 3D game and it's still >50% screen. These apps are also fake in standby if you want to keep your connectivity. They could save some energy if they could automatically switch off the 3G and Edge radios when you have wifi and vice versa, but they don't really. It would probably break your baseband if an app tried to do that in an Android device. Apps like Greenify that only works in rooted devices do some difference in standby, at least if you have apps and processes that jumpstart themselves in the background (I can list a few common apps that do that another time), but again, who cares if the tab can be kept in standby for 2 weeks or 4 weeks?
[Android General] geertkol:
[MENTION=5994621]MacArthur67[/MENTION]

After reading your reply its clear to me what you mean. I think the standby time makes a difference in the lifetime of the tablet. Because if you charge it more the lifetime of the battery will be shorter. You agree? In that sense a longer standbye time is important i think. Thanks for your explanation.
[Android General] MacArthur67:
Yes I agree but it depends on how you use your tab also. If you use your tab for example one hour per day in average the standby battery drain will only be a few percent (~5%) of the total energy consumption.

Also, if the battery in our tab is of a bit good quality the life length is ~800-1500 charge cycles depending on how you charge it. Let's say that you charge it every second day in average no matter how many % the battery is at when you start charging. Then your tab battery will last for at least 4 years theoretically. If you charge it once a week your battery will last for 15 years, and so on (not taking the aging effect into account that is independent of charge cycles). We all use our devices differently but in the world of computers and related stuff the devices are "dead" in 2-3 years from other reasons than the battery. In my case I know I will give my 3GS away within a year, or it will be just another device in my ever growing pile of "old" devices. In other words, I could charge my tab 3 times per day and the battery life would still not be the thing that limits the life length of my tab.

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To summarize this discussion I think we can say that a battery drain of 1-10% per day in standby is normal, depending on the standby condition. Flight mode: ~1-2% per day, all radios on and bad reception: <10%. Higher battery drain rate is an indication of that something is wrong. Some process is using energy unnecessary.
[Android General] geertkol:
[MENTION=5994621]MacArthur67[/MENTION]

Thanks for your reply. I agree! Final question: any Lollipop news for the ifive mini 3gs??
[Android General] Silverphil:
As mentioned earlier, tab finally successfully rooted, and I have in the meanwhile validated the use of a 128 Gb SD card without problem.

New problem however: the tab is no more recognized by Windows explorer, although I did not have any problem before. Device manager first tells me that the device works properly and after some time the flag turns yellow and I get the message "this device can not run (code 10), the process hosting the driver of this device has terminated". Trying to update the driver ends up with "windows has determined that the driver is up todate, USB MTP device". But still no device icon in Windows explorer. The same happens with my Elelphone Android phone; my Galaxy S3 is however duly recognized by windows as MTP device and files can be opened. I tried with another PC, with the same result. I searched this thread but did not find an adequate answer to this specific problem. Can anybody please help with a step by step approach? (I tried with the Elephone to un-install the driver, restarted the computer and let it find a driver, which it did, and it is even worse since I still have no access through Windows explorer but on top of this the new driver installed is such that it has become impossible to un-install it: corresponding button is now grey!!)

Other interesting issue: I was concerned that the Ifive (and the Elephone, for that matter) being MTP devices, it was not possible anymore as with UMS devices to synchronize tab and SD card files with the PC using a sync program such as Always Sync. I found however a way around this by using the Samba File Transfer App which allows to sync over Wifi and works with Always Sync. This worked fair enough with the Galaxy S3 and the Elephone. With the Ifive tab, I do have the tab and SD card present as files in the Windows network, but...both files are empty!

Quite frustrated therefore, since I have no more way (except through FTP or Airdroid, which do not allow the same operations) to access Tab and SD card from my computer.

Help would be welcome.
[Android General] vayavalla:
To connect with the pc, I assume you did it but, anyway: did you tried to reboot the tablet?

If so try also with debugging mode enabled under developer settings
[Android General] Silverphil:
Thanks for your reply. I have indeed tried to reboot the tablet, and it is permanently with debugging mode enabled... Still nothing. I tried in despair to un-install also Ifive driver; when the tab reconnected Windows installed a driver (USB MTP device), and...the tab is still not seen in Windows explorer, but the driver itself cannot be updated/un-installed anymore (corresponding buttons are now grey)!!

I am reallly stuck.
[Android General] Silverphil:
Update: I also tried to re-install drivers found in pogodancer's ROM files; they were indeed installed, but the only result was the creation of new "DA USB VCOM ports" in device manager (Com 13, 14, 15, 16...) with a Mediatek driver, but no link with the tab.

Ifive mini 3 GS appears in "printers and peripherals" but with "maker, model and description unknown", and lists as functions "USB composite device" (Microsoft driver), "USB MTP device" (Microsoft driver", and "Yun OS ACB interface (Aliyun driver), all said to operate correctly.

In device manager it does appear as USB MTP device with microsoft drivers; these drivers cannot be updated or deleted anymore (greyed buttons).

And of course Ifive is still not recognized in Windows explorer!! Help!!
[Android General] Jajku:
Much text sorry if i missed ,but try other USB cable, if cable is broken?
[Android General] MacArthur67:
[MENTION=6254387]Silverphil[/MENTION]

Do dou get any message in the notice center in the tab when you connect it to your PC, like in my pics below?

MTP is part of Windows and should not require any drivers to be installed, but you have the same problem in two different MT6592 devices, which could be an indication of that something isn't right in the PC. On the other hand The Samsung phone is recognised as a MTB device and you had also tried another PC. Very intriguing problem indeed. I sure hope some Android guru here can shed some light on this problem.

Anyone?
[Android General] Silverphil:
I have indeed the same screens on the tab when connected to the PC. Also changing USB cable has the same results.
[Android General] Jajku:
1.What Windows OS?

2.Try run Windows update manually

3.Take 128GB card away and plug tablet again.
[Android General] Silverphil:
My PC runs on Windows 8; I also tried with my former PC running on Windows 7 with the same result.

I updated Windows manually.

I took the 128 Gb card out and plugged tablet again.

Still nothing in Windows explorer.
[Android General] Jajku:
I have Windows 8.1 64bit PRO , 1 phone ,1 tablet (FNF) both works fine in Windows without enykind extra drivers.

If you not already test ,change other USB plug in Windows PC, take USB dock/hub away if got and like MacArthur67 pictures try change Media device-Camerea-Charge only and back to MTP.

When tablet/phone randomly shows in Windows connected/not connected broken USB cable or USB is broken in machine.

If your Galaxy S3 works fine both Win 7&8 its tablet problem .

And still that USB cable thing both can be broken?If you use your Galaxy S3 long time in Windows you can transver files in exploder?
[Android General] MacArthur67:
Silverphil, I came to think of something. You mentioned earlier that you installed some server software for incremental backups. Was that on the Android side (tab)? If that is a Samba Server for Android (SMB, CIFS), maybe it prevents the MTP (or PTP) protocol from working correctly? Have you tried to shut off the server or disable/uninstall the server app?
[Android General] dAV84:
any news about 2.04???

so, i have a new problem (the firstAfter 4 months)

during standby , the phone has trouble reactivate the screen or calls when it sounds on appeal.

I did a soft resert , I have to press 2 times to show something ...

may be a mistake graphics card or it does not like the cold

Any news about Lollipop?

Thanks to all
[Android General] pogodancer:
@ dAV84

Do you have these problems with the 2.0.4 firmware only or with older Roms also?
[Android General] JoeLansing:
Just ordered one. will I need to root, leave stock, or custom ROM?

I normally use a free phone from work with all the bells and whistles including free data and hot spot. But I'm the one in charge of putting a MDM solution on our devices so no more fun stuff on work phones. Especially mine I plan on just using my work phone as a hotspot for this guy. Internet surfing. Not much gaming beyond chess and backgammon. LOL Pics, normal crap. Is the Stock FW so bad I'll need to root to clean it up? Are there reasons I should do a custom ROM instead of just root? I'm old and lazy and have messed up enough devices to realize sometimes a custom ROM isn't in my best interest because I don't have time to mess with them. Thank you for any advice!

- Joe
[Android General] dAV84:
"pogodancer	@ dAV84

Do you have these problems with the 2.0.4 firmware only or with older Roms also?

sorry, it's a mistake...

I haven"t 2.03 and i'm quest for new 2.04

the problems is new from 10 days, become only with the 2.03 after hard cold time
[Android General] MacArthur67:
In my opinion it depends on which FW version your tab comes with when you get it. If it's one one of the later versions it has a unified storage (only one internal partition) so you won't run out of memory for apps that can't be moved.

Also, there isn't much bloat in the stock FW and with the unified storage it won't be much in the way if you just disable it and leave it there.

But on the other hand it's easy to root MTK devices with iRoot if you don't want to flash Pogodancer's excellent cleaned 2.0.3 FW in this thread.

You don't brick this tab or any other MTK devices easily. Not permanently at least. Besides, the risk of bricking a device makes it more thrilling. It's part of the fun! :D
[Android General] JoeLansing:
Thank you for the info! If I'm dumb enough to want to use this as a phone, is there a good way? Do I need a headset? Trying to tell where the mic is. I know speaker is on the bottom. I got one of these in black http://www.walmart.com/ip/MoshiMoshi-01H-Retro-Handset/21551063 I wonder if it would work?

- Joe
[Android General] MacArthur67:
It works fine as a normal phone even though it looks silly to speak in a 8" phone. The earphone is on top and the mic is in the bottom right corner, like on a normal phone. The loudspeakers are at the back.

I can't make the mic in any type of headset work in my tab, whilst others have reported in this thread that they got the old Nokia type to work. Except the iPhone connector there seem to be 2 types of connectors used in Android devices, OMTP and AHJ. I have tried all 3 but can't get any type to work. I don't use my tab for calling and if I ever do I can use it without headset, so it's ok for me. Let me know if your retro handset works.
[Android General] Silverphil:
I had indeed installed Samba file sharing; I first disabled it, and then suppressed it. Still the same result.

In summary, my Ifive mini 3 GS is no longer recognized by Windows explorer (no access therefore to memory and SD card).

It is however present in "devices and printers" as "Ifive mini 3GS" but with maker, model number, description and category unknown.

The same applies with my Elephone P3000S, also based on MTK 6592; both were fully recognized before. My Galaxy S3 however is still fully recognized as MTP device.

I tried connection with 4 PCs: 2 on Windows 8.1 64bits, 1 on Windows 7 64 bits, 1 on Vista 32 bits, all with the same results.

I tried to exchange the USB cable, dismount the SD card, update Windows manually, etc...no luck.

I guess it could have something to do with the drivers; I am however unable to find a simple procedure to update the drivers (and to find the correct ones). In particular, has anyone already used PdaNetA4150.exe to update the drivers? Or is it a malware as avast seems to think? On top of that, the tab and phone are mentioned in Device Manager as USB MTP devices, but the drivers (Microsoft) cannot be updated or un-installed ("greyed" buttons!!).
[Android General] Jajku:
Well seems Windows regonise tablet,but cannot use tablet,so its driver tablet hardware/software (ROM) problem?

Here guide to drivers install for ROM flashing ,maybe re-flashing helps, there also PDAnet,i think all drivers installed after this guide.

You dont need care yellow markings in Device manager ,drivers works fine.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztm6QE_qiZc

Manual and factory ROM here

http://www.ifive.com.cn/service/downloads/ifive mini3 3GS/index.html
[Android General] Silverphil:
Hello Jajku, thanks for yor answer.

You tube video unfortunately not very understandable. I applied the PDAnet method: all went according to instructions, it said that installation was successful, and...still nothing in Windows explorer. Ifive mini 3GS is as usual seen in "devices and printers" as an unknown maker/model/category/description, with Microsoft driver (dated 2006!).
[Android General] Jajku:
In my PC ,tablet shows as portable machines and i can use update button and says MTP USB -device is ok.

When i go to Devices and printers-right clicking to properties tab then hardware.

I can see 1:Android composite ADB Interface 2:Ifive_mini_3GS 3:USB-Compodevice

You got that Android Composite ADB Interface drivers in your PC?

When you plug tablet to PC, what tablet reports,what mode goes on? ,MTP,PTP,charge only or CD-rom?

Also picture in Device manager MTK drivers pack installed , (5 ports)