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[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] m80dv:
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[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] klaud004:
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2 hours of watching 1080p movie

4.5 hours web browsing,youtube,facebook,whatsapp etc

30 min nba 2k14
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] omorofos:
below is my screen when my phone was idle overnight
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
I'm getting excellent battery life with stock rom!

By tuning u mean?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Zubair1024:
By tuning I mean... Rooting and editing it's build.prop for battery performance and hibernating apps and system apps that you don't require by using greenify... Trust me greenify will make a big difference on your battery life.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
But the stock One is already giving excellent battery life. With wifi all day on and a bit of gaming m getting 6h 45m of OST. With the same usage N4 gave me 1.5hrs of OST. This phone is amazing.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Zubair1024:
Well, you can't compare nexus 4's 2100mah and way higher 318 ppi display... Battery life is bound to be weaker in comparison. I'm talking about getting more juice out of it even it is comparatively good.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Yeah I know that but unless there are some really rogue apps it doesn't help that much.. and when u say that the out of the box battery life isn't good enough, I would say u gotta factory reset simply.. this phone has the best battery life unrooted in the android world!
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
PPI has nothing to do with it.. both displays are 720p and the gpu has to push the same number of pixels.. u could argue about the screen size though.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
Exactly. PPI won't do much on the battery life since its a 720p screen on both. Moreover, lets say even if it would have affected the battery life.. 1.5 and bloody 7 hrs (approx) is HELL a lot of difference. Any lay man can say that.

When I bought the device initially, ((before a couple of pathetic updates) the device used to give me 3.5 and SOMETIMES 4 hrs of OST. But with updates, it just ruined the battery life. Plus I am the kind of person who doesn't use much apps. And every night, literally every night, I used to force close Whatsapp, VIber, FB, etc etc. and then go to sleep so that those effin Wakelocks dont mess with the battery. I had a fear that the battery will go down in these 6...7 hours and that the device will shut off and I will end up losing my alarm...apparently a day's of work too. However, I care less about it on my Note 3 Neo's 4.3 JB. I don't know man but Google sucks at battery optimization. Yeah I have heard enough from people saying "Google is a search engine primarily..how can you expect the best battery life from Nexus devices of theirs." And I only laugh when I hear this. They got into the software scene themselves, yet they suck really bad at it. Really really bad. Stock android can only provide you with SPEED...which is what made me go for Nexus. But now I know this is ONE of the 50 other useful things which a normal consumers requires from a phone.

TL;DR: I am just bashing. You better move on bro lol :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Zubair1024:
Mathematically speaking 2100 mAh and 3100 mAh won't actually give you 1.5 hrs and 7hrs difference. We should keep in mind that wearing of the battery is involved too cause otherwise coming from an engineer its not possible.And talking about Screen resolution we are comparing True HD IPS Plus capacitive touchscreen with a Super AMOLED capacitive touchscreen.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
Yeah wearing of the battery could be a reason too. BDW, I have had some real bad experiences with LG phones in the past (before android) Whereas look at this phone of mine (pic attached)... It's I cant recall how old but still running the original battery and stuff. Amazing stuff by Sammy.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
Damn that blur sh**... Hating it
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Zubair1024:
Well, in the end battery life is worst part of a smart phone. That's why we are some gonna have batteries from graphite... Look it up a revolution soon going to happen..
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
Hahaha and no OEM cares to think of it. I mean they are rapidly increasing cores, RAMs, PPIs, etc etc etc.. but nobody cares about mAh. Silly.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Exactly.. QHD is perhaps the stupidest thing as of right now.. they don't have requisite hardware & battery size to give performance & battery life even equal to the 1080p phones!
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] rakeshishere:
Not until September 25 when Note 4 would launch with a Super AMOELD QHD Display [emoji14]
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Zubair1024:
Well... I doubt it they will cross the 4000mah barrier with the new one, that would be preposterously crazy... Expect 200mah hike at the max...
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
yeah.. but sammy unlike lg doesn't mess up battery life (atleast till now!), especially all note series phones have great battery life!

let's see how Note 4 turns out to be, will be interesting.. especially after GS5 which is a great phone ATM but not what people expected.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
[MENTION=4683019]Zubair1024[/MENTION] - congrats.. senior member now! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Zubair1024:
Oh shucks.... Thanks mate... =P
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
But the best feeling is when u cross that really irksome 10 post mark! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Zubair1024:
It sure is mate.... it sure is!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] bOkz:
Hmm what do you think?

For some reason my top 3 battery hoggers are all system related, although I must admit my phone was mostly lock.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] nick99n:
i bought it 312.50 euros with shipping included (note 3 costs 440 here) but i fear that if i say the neo is better than a nexus 5 people will want to kill me
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
Only hard core stock android friends will. Rest won't. There isn't one but plenty of reasons that's neo 3 is a better device than N5
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
TBH it solely depends on what an individual prefers to have, u can't have it all! :D

I feel N3 Neo is better than Nexus 5 in all aspects except smoothness & display sharpness. Some people consider smoothness as their top priority when they buy a device even if the battery life is ****.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
I was in that boat where I prioritized smoothness in the OS.. this was my ONLY wish, hence I bought Nexus 4. But then I realized how wrong I was. Wrong as in, compromising on soooooooo many good things in favor of smoothness. Battery life, camera, removable back, expandable storage, LED screen, a fully feature pack OS etc etc. I made my family and friends buy N4 when I bought it (4 of them bought it). Now slowly I have been asking them to switch from their Nexus's to Samsung. No I am not forcing anyone. I just show them what my phone can do and ask them to show me what theirs can do. And u know when they can't make healthy argument, they immediately say, well I got Kitkat, what's your OS version? In return I only ask this, so what benefits has Kitkat given you which are far superior than a feature packed phone? And they have nothing to say. I think it is becoming more like the iPhone thingy, where you show the power of android to someone and he/she in return says, well I got iPhone..and its the best becauseeee..... emmm.. because its an iPhone.

Anyhow, I would stick to JB than Kitkat anyday. Kitkat may have given a lot to the android enthusiasts (like the internal changes) but it did not give anything to the regular consumer. Oh yeah, it did, wakelocks.... and that too, plentyyyy of them.

I know many ppl here will not agree with what I have said but then again, we all have our own preferences, which is what make us different from eachother. In short, to each his own.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] simplyanin:
Those who are saying Nexus 5 battery life is **** ... think again.

Using Android L dev Preview Battery Saver Mode turned on.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
I completely agree with u.. people tend to hear things and just follow the crowd. But yeah, to each his own!
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
See buddy, I've seen a few users get 6-7 hrs SOT (~4 or 5 people), but the settings they use makes the phone more like a Nokia 1100. U can't fool me by telling me about the battery life cos it is ****, I owned the phone for 2 months & guess what, the kinda usage with which N5 gave me 3.5 hrs SOT (my std usage), with that same usage I get 7.5 hrs SOT on N3 Neo. See I don't intend to sound rude but the battery life of N5 is very inconsistent, 95% of people get 3 hrs SOT wirh their normal usage, others who know how to tweak squeeze out another hour or so. I've followed that battery life thread for months, so I know about that pretty well!

#Peace :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
True that. Plus he hasn't shown of this was achieved in one single charge. Moreover Nexus can never give 7 hours of OST with normal usage. With my N4 I had to make it give me 4 hours of SOT but with note 3 neo it just gives me 7 hours of OST without making any efforts.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
I'm not trying to be critical, but u seriously have to use nexus like Nokia 1100 to achieve that kinda SOT!
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
Agreed
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] bOkz:
Anybody can help me? I can't even get 12hours batt life.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
A doctor will never be able to prescribe you if you go to him with a long face and tell him you are sick. He NEEDS details about your problem. And so do we :)

Share SOT SC and stuff and tell your usage
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] bOkz:
Sorry but what does SOT mean?

For usage very light as i just factory reset and only installed viber. No facebook, whatsup etc. Even email is not yet configured.

Here are the screens
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Hello buddy..

SOT means Screen on Time, u have to go to Settings->General-> Battery-> Screen & there take a screen shot & post it here.

Now from the pics u have posted, the signal strength is great, so that problem is ruled out but u have heavy wakelocks. Since the only app u have is Viber, we have to assume it's a rogue app (an app that consumes a lot of battery in the background & doesn't let the phone deep sleep when not is use).

Now I suggest u to try 2 things-

1. Uninstall Viber and post ur battery life (the 2 screenshots u posted earlier & the SOT)

2. If that doesn't work out then go to google settings & disable location services and then tell us if the issues persists.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] bOkz:
Thanks for helping out man. As of now i can't remove viber as it is needed in my work. I've turned off the location service.

Here are the screens.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Is the location reporting switched off too?

From what I see, u have some serious drain issues. 40% awake is a lot, at 30% battery my SOT is usually close to 5-6 hrs. I think either Viber is the app causing the issue or maybe u have a defected battery. Please try another thing, use your phone until it drains to 1 or 2%, then switch it off & let it charge uninterrupted till 100%. Then maybe your battery will be calliberated properly.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
You don't need battery doctor.. Samsung has a hidden doctor inside your phone for battery.

And I ALWAYS force close Viber when I don't need it. And frankly, most of the time I don't need to use viber so it's always closed (kinda).
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] bOkz:
Where can i find that location reporting?

Ok i will try your advice. Hopefully this solution works.

Ok i will uninstall battery doctor.

If i force close viber, will i still get my messages in realtime?

Btw, if i factory reset again will this be solve?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
You won't receive real time messages or calls when u force close Viber. But since viber has ruined its app therefore I prefer whatsapp for messaging.

I suggest you factory reset. This will wipe out all bad apps (and of course good ones too) and will make your phone like it was when you bought it. Then try installing apps other than the battery saving ones, clear RAM ones (these do more harm than good) and Viber (battery hogger).

And ya, Facebook also eats lotsa battery. I use an older version (pretty old one), which doesnt cause any battery drainage. I have never force closed whatsapp and facebook on this phone. They work absoluetly perfect.

To download facebook's older versions, google: download Facebook android app old version
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
I've attached 3 pics, follow the steps to turn off location reporting.

I agree with filthykid, viber is most probably the battery hog, also battery doctor is useless so uninstall that app.

Now try the steps I've suggested u & check if those work for u. If it doesn't work out then perform a factory reset and then check out the battery backup without installing any app to see if u have any issue with the phone's battery.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
^pretty good use usage of S-pen ;) haha
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Well I primarily bought a note series phone for a reason! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
Hahahah. Like wise. Love flaunting it to colleagues :p
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] bOkz:
Hey guys I'm back! After enduring a log of factiry reset and observing its behavior, I think my phone i fine again but i may be wrong. Haha.

Ok here we go:

Charged yesterday to 95% 11:45pm. Installed everything (fb, viber, whatsapp, email setup). Light use mostly checking mails and batt stats. 10hours - 74%.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
It seems to be doing better, but ure still getting less battery backup than what u should (I say so cos screen is the main battery consumer), maybe it's like this for the dual sim version.

We have to compare ur stats with someone who has the dual sim version of the phone I guess.. btw u have push sync on for all the apps?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
The moment the S-Pen is out, I can just see the expression of people around me change, they are just amazed! :p
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] bOkz:
I guess so, now what I'm thinking is that i have a busted battery? Any indicator for a busted battery?

Email push is all manual.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
With sync disabled u have so much drain? Then I think u do have a busted battery. There is no indicator as such, the traditional method is to take out the battery, lay it on a flat surface & roll it, if the battery rolls with less friction then it is definitely busted.

U do definitely have a problem. Check out the previous posts in this thread to see the battery life other users get.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
I have it for nearly two weeks. I saw that some of you have really good battery life. Is this result good or bad?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
We r getting 7 to 8 hours of battery life (SOT) with almost the same kind of usage as yours. At least I do.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
how it's possible to have such a big difference? did you do any tweaks? hope it will get better after KK will arrive and a factory reset :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Likewise I also get 7+ hrs SOT with 30 hrs total usage.

What apps have u installed? And do u have GPS/NFC switched on for long intervals of time?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Buddy, I don't know how the screen is on top of battery usage for many people. My battery consumed by screen is never more than 15%, usually close to 10-12%. What's ur opinion?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
Have only couple of apps - WhatsApp Facebook xda - and few others. I uninstalled viber because I don't use it anymore.

I never keep GPS NFC BLUE TOOTH and wifi on when I don't use it. I also disabled some apps. I don't wanna root it , not yet :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
even my phone is not rooted. just disabled bloatware which i didn't want and I'm getting great battery life!

I've installed quite a few apps but I use the web version (mobile) of Facebook cos it is a battery killer IMO. U have push sync switched on?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
Yes I think so. At least Gmail and Facebook messenger. I was looking for some settings to disable push and set up a periodical check of emails but no luck. What's you exact configuration ? :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Gintu:
12 hrs for diehard usage :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Gmail doesn't have sync in intervals, so nothing u can do about it!

And the battery killer is the one & only FB messenger, best app to kill your battery ! :P

My configuration - ~50 downloaded apps, bloat disabled (except a few in built apps I do use), push sync off, whatsapp, 15% brightness most of the time & auto brightness when outdoors, WiFi/3G always on (except when sleeping).

My main battery hogs is the background are whatsapp, m-indicator & other google play services I think so!

I use mobile web version of FB.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
With 12 hrs usage we'll consistently get 9 hrs SOT ! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
i hope this drain will be fixed with KK update. previously had Lumia 720 and there was no drain! i was losig maybe 1-2% each hour with data on, facebook & messenger constantly working, skype, viber and whatsapp. my guess is that it's just a lack of optimization. i will post a screenshot asap.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
For some reason I can't upload the screen shot in the previous post. I apologise for double posting. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
The way Windows handles apps is different as it doesn't provide true multitasking. It kills background apps, so across platforms it is difficult to compare!

FB messenger is a battery hog, it always prevents the phone from deep sleep. Btw, u used the phone for 1d 14h & still have 63% remaining? :o
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
I used ds battery saver which puts your phone to sleep over the night and a bit in the morning - you don't get notifications though so I uninstalled it. Don't worry after I activated wifi my battery dropped to 10% in the next 5 hours with moderate usage :banghead: . I got around 4.5 hours of sot. I guess it could be much better if they will solve the android os drain :sly:

Edit: actually I was using the 8.1 developer preview and it has true multitasking. The bad thing was the 512 ram was not that much for multitasking and sometimes I got the "resuming" dialog. It's a
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Even though 4.5 hrs is not bad, in fact it's pretty good by Android phone's standards, but everyone else is getting much much better battery life. In my case, even on the bad days when the signal is abysmal, GPS on for 5 hrs I still manage to get 5.5-6 hrs SOT. Maybe others using dual sim varient might be able to help, as in the kinda of battery life they get. Though Idk how sync effects the battery life.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Are u sure about the true multitasking on Win 8.1? Cos AFAIK the Windows mob OS kills background apps after the screen is locked.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
Well it's kind of tradeoff. If you let the app in background by pressing home button instead of back it won't be closed. Yes it might suspended but not killed. Also you have the option in settings to let an app run in background. In my opinion WP 8.1 is a big step in the right way. It was surprisingly fast on that low specs - 1 ghz dual core and 512 ram. Initially I wanted to buy the 1520 or note 3 but I didn't have enough money :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Initially even I wanted to buy 1520, but a few things drove me towards Neo:

1. Dated UI of windows

2. App limitations

3. Closed source OS

4. S-Pen & S-Amoled screen of Neo

Even size was a factor..

I'm actually happy I didn't buy a windows phone seeing how I'm feeling irritated with my iPad Air, even after jailbreaking I can't download a file when the screen is off !
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] ryansmth76:
Bought one yesterday and this is the battery backup after first full charge.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
SOT & usage pattern?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] ryansmth76:
Sorry i didn't take the screenshot of sot but since it was first day i played alot with it and did alot of internet browsing,downloading,benchmarking tests,downloading apps from playstore and mobile data was enabled or it was connected to wifi all the time

:D:D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] m80dv:
Shots

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[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
How? Yesterday my phone was awake 80% of the time .... got only 2 hours of display in 24 hours :(

I also disabled some of Samsung bloatware. Can that be the cause? I always had wifi and data on. What's your configuration and usage?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
That's fine, but do share ur later battery usage ! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] peRFect!:
Solid battery backup.. ur configuration?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] djlech:
Moderate use. Weaklook detector helped a lot
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] cr4zy.b0y:
Well I would say it's a welcome change from 70% awake and more than 30% android os usage. I installed hibernate app and it looks promising :D

What's your opinion about it ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] m80dv:
Manual brightness.

Not games.

Wifi or data all day on (H+).

Daily Use:

Intensive apps use: whastapp, mantano reader.

Frecuents apps: tapatalk, music player, Facebook, Twitter.

Less frecuents: sketchbook, onenote, action memo, notes. Line.

Calls .

Greenify use with notificacions and startup manager.

Some blotware app freeze.

avast! Mobile Security 3.0.7702 (com.avast.android.mobilesecurity)

Cinema FV-5 1.25 (com.flavionet.android.cinema.pro)

Classic Calculator 1.1.14 (com.developstudios.casio)

Cámara FV-5 1.73 (com.flavionet.android.camera.pro)

Facebook 13.0.0.13.14 (com.facebook.katana)

Facturación de Samsung 2.01.06 (com.sec.android.app.billing)

Google Play Books 3.1.49 (com.google.android.apps.books)

Greenify 2.3.2 (com.oasisfeng.greenify)

HTCMania 3.6 (hello.vierco.com.htcmania)

Infinite Painter 3.0.6 (com.brakefield.painterfull)

LINE 4.5.4 (jp.naver.line.android)

Mantano Reader Premium 2.5.0.5 (com.mantano.reader.android)

MEGA 1.5.18 (com.flyingottersoftware.mega)

Notas 3.3.2 (nl.jacobras.notes)

OneNote 15.0.2727.2300 (com.microsoft.office.onenote)

Papyrus 1.1.6-GP (com.steadfastinnovation.android.projectpapyrus)

Phone INFO 1.9.0 (org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo)

QuickPic 3.6.2 (com.alensw.PicFolder)

Root Explorer 3.1.8 (com.speedsoftware.rootexplorer)

Shazam 4.8.2-14072515-a569382 (com.shazam.android)

Snapseed 1.6.0 (com.niksoftware.snapseed)

Splive TV 1.6 (com.tdt.spliveTV)

Startup Manager (Free) 4.8 (imoblife.startupmanager)

Swype + Dragon 1.6.16.27862 (com.nuance.swype.amz)

Sygic 13.2.0 (com.sygic.aura)

Tapatalk 2.4.13 (com.quoord.tapatalkpro.activity)

Telegram 1.6.1 (org.telegram.messenger)

Tiempo BZ 4.9.9 beta 40 (pro.burgerz.weather)

Tienda Apps release-10.0000.646.13C_640000010 (com.amazon.venezia)

Twitter 5.19.0 (com.twitter.android)

Wakelock Detector 1.6.1 (com.uzumapps.wakelockdetector)

WhatsApp 2.11.301 (com.whatsapp)

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[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] Evil Eye:
Guys I am getting screen on time of only 4.5 hours only.. Please help.. have attached the screenshots.. thanks in advance :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo General] filthykid:
I get just under 5 hours of OST when I play COC for more than an hour. So it's fine. Don't worry.

In case if u still wanna clear up the confusion, try not playing any game and see the OST easily cross over 6 hours. ..almost 7 hours too at times.

Bdw, enjoying boosting exilir and gold mines for 1 gem each? ;) :D