yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[TouchPad Development] :
Yeah this gives all I need. The system memory is /dev/mmcblk0 partitionned into 14 blocks and the last one being an LVM2.

I made an image of it with "./novacom get file://dev/mmcblk0 > my_backup.img"

I think the novacom drivers have been designed without concern for efficiency as it is awefully slow, I calculated it's about 5 MB / s while when the media was mounted as a normal volume transfers were as fast as ~ 25 to 30 MB / s. anyway ... I mounted some partitions and LVM2 volumes from the image using losetup and mount in my usual linux system and everything was fine.

I then did a full erase with tp toolbox and reflashed the image with "./novacom put file://dev/mmcblk0 < my_backup.img". After a long time I got an "unexpected EOF from server", I think it's due to novacom driver. But I didn't want to do it again and tried to boot the touchpad up even though I could brick it up. It did boot normally but it found a problem and requested to reboot. It was taking some long time so I skipped all that and went on installing android. I'm satisfied that the system booted up, well ... almost normally. I'll try to see what's the problem with the slowness of novacom. It should be noted that it doesn't work with current libusb. I needed to make a build and a local install from very old sources.

So ... now i'm in android. Next step ... trying to get rid of gapps. I tried installing android without putting gapps*.zip in the ttinstall dir but it complained and stopped the install process. So I added it and proceeded. But I don't want google garbage.
[TouchPad Development] bryantjopplin:
Try taking the twrp.uImage in the files folder I gave you and instead of going to install android after the full erase and android volume creating reboot the tp into bootie then novacom boot mem the twrp.uImage and then just install twrp.zip and android only. Gapps are not necessary this way.

Also props for figuring that out. You definitely have more knowledge of filesystem's and Linux than I. Thanks for the write up.

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This is from a few pages back but this is basically what I mean besides the gapps part.

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=71589964

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If you want to delete the unnecessary media folder there is an option for it.
[TouchPad Development] :
that's a good thing, getting rid of media volume. I'm also searching about why phone apps are included in the rom. I have not seen any hp touchpad with phone device embedded. I might even try to get rid of related apps.
[TouchPad Development] bryantjopplin:
Sorry I did mean to say volume not folder haha. Also what ROM? Removing apps is easy with root.
[TouchPad Development] :
I meant the file "cm-11-20151116-SNAPSHOT-jcsullins-tenderloin.zip" which is the one I found in the tutorial on xda-dev forums. Yes removing apps is easy but there might be cross dependencies between apps, and if removing one of such the whole system will be unstable.
[TouchPad Development] bryantjopplin:
Are you needing KitKat or would LP or MM be fine? Try evervolv nightly with a the kernel that is posted in the forums.
[TouchPad Development] :
As KK is reputed to be the most stable I would prefer it. In fact I will test most of what I can. I'm currently trying evervolv but it seems its bluetooth support is not as good as with cm-11.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
If you want a mature, stable and pretty much trouble free experience on your TouchPad, then Sullin's latest date CM11 Rom is what you want. Once you go beyond that, you can expect various issues of one sort or another. All the developers over the years have done a great job porting later versions of Android on to the TouchPad, but this old tablet is just that and these newer versions are just more than it can support.

NT
[TouchPad Development] :
the latest I found is 20151116. Yes compare to the others I found, mainly PAC and evervolv this one seems to be the most stable.
[TouchPad Development] bryantjopplin:
Have you found out any other cool things we can do through novaterm? Appreciate that you posted the other stuff.
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
There is also another stable ROM that I have installed on one of my touchpads its called "The Rock" by MLQ

"The Rock" by MLQ: "there is a reason why they call this the rock" LOL

Android 4.4.4 Kitkat install files(Rom, Gapps, Recovery):

Rom:cm-11-20161219-NIGHTLY-MLQ-tenderloin.zip

Recovery:TWRP-jcs-dm-tenderloin-20140612b.zip

Gapps:gapps-444-base-20160602-1-signed.zip
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
That is the latest date that I'm aware of, and the one that I am using. And that will be the one I continue to use until this old tablet dies.

NT

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Where did you find this?

NT
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
I think he is referring to an old build by Milaq https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=67689820#
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
Hello NT, yes Nomad1600 has the correct link.

.... and our good friend RolandD states in his Nougat Install video that "its our rock" listen to the below video from 4:08 - 4:30, carefully noting the quote at 4:25....Cheers

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ISWZ0c48gNA
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
That is what I was thinking, but I did not remember him naming his zips like that. Thanks

NT
[TouchPad Development] :
I just tried it. I didn't see much difference with the previous that I tried though it's not worse in terms of smoothness. On the other side I'm getting a problem which I did never see before with android, wifi is being turned back on as soon as I try to turn it off. I'm able to set it to off by switching plane mode on but once off I can't turn it on again. It is showing "activating wifi ..." in the wifi settings panel.
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
Your right between MLQ KitKat and JC Sullins KitKat there is not much significant differences, both have been solid rocks, I just wanted to point out other stable ROMs, like MLQ Roms.

Now I have not been experiencing the issue on wifi you point out above, mine turns off and on correctly.

I leave mine "always on" because I use hangouts and don't want to miss a text message!! I did noticed I am using a slightly older version than above. I am using cm-11-20161205-NIGHTLY-MLQ-tenderloin.zip, and the link I posted above was for 20161219.

...and when I talk about its a "Rock" I mean, stable wifi ( never drops ), solid working Bluetooth, no lags or double taps. One negative is sometimes the YouTube videos can be sluggish to get them going.
[TouchPad Development] RolandDeschain79:
I haven't experienced this problem with the cm-11-20161219 build but here's a link to the cm-11-20161205-NIGHTLY-MLQ-tenderloin.zip one so you can try that instead.
[TouchPad Development] Flexmaen:
Yep. LuneOS makes more sense in that case.
[TouchPad Development] Kiasu-RFD:
hi all...after few years i finally have time to dig out my HP Touchpad and decided to install Android..

just wondering which Android or version should I go with as I notice there r few online and youtube..

which one is the stable one or where should i start with? my TP still with orig webos.

i would like to run Kodi on it..hopefully it has enough juice..

thank you
[TouchPad Development] m00head:
This was discussed quite recently in this thread:

All the information you need about this ROM how to install it is available here:

[ROM] [4.4.4] [CyanogenMod 11 by Jcsullins] [DM] [06/12/15]

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2712680
[TouchPad Development] longknives:
+1 on JCsullins version of CM 11

All the information you need about this ROM how to install it is available here:

[ROM] [4.4.4] [CyanogenMod 11 by Jcsullins] [DM] [06/12/15]

https://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2712680[/QUOTE]

I have to agree, I just installed this version after using the Evervolv 7.1.2 version, CM 11 seems to be a whole lot smoother running on this old hardware.
[TouchPad Development] Rolfsted:
I have to agree, I just installed this version after using the Evervolv 7.1.2 version, CM 11 seems to be a whole lot smoother running on this old hardware.[/QUOTE]

This is the thread I've been looking for. Evervolv 7.1 just isn't what I want for my old Touchpad. I go to a coffee shop and spend more time waiting for apps to load, screen to unfreeze or rebooting than I do reading. I just bought a $75.00 beautiful leather cover and want to use this great tablet.
[TouchPad Development] aj0125:
Is there a simple guide to installing 4.4.4 for a beginner? That 168 page thread is a little daunting for a newbie...
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/help/rom-guide-how-to-install-android-4-4-x-t2912820

NT
[TouchPad Development] Redflea:
Just updated a friends Touchpad that was still completely original.

This tool is the greatest invention of man since the wheel.

Thanks very much.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Wow, haven't seen you around in a while. Nice to know your still active in

the TP scene.

NT
[TouchPad Development] vishnumrao:
I can't connect to my touchpad using tptoolbox on Windows 10 running the latest creator's update. Anyone else have this problem?

I get the following:

Setting Palm path ...

Checking novacom service ...

Loading TPToolbox ...

unable to find device

.

Cannot connect to Touchpad.

Make sure Touchpad is connected with USB cable.

Make sure Touchpad is in webOS Recovery (bootie) mode

(where big USB symbol shows on Touchpad screen)

.

Press any key to continue . . .

Screenshot attached.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
I just checked my version and I am still on the Anniversary Edition. I also did a Google search on the Creator's Edition and many are saying that expect problems when you install it. Before installing the Creator's Edition, did you have problems? If it has not been too long since installing it, you should have the option to uninstall/roll back the installation.

That's about all I see as a solution for your issue. Good luck.

NT
[TouchPad Development] bryantjopplin:
Check device manager and see if it's recognized. Also is this in a USB 3.0 port on the PC? Since windows 10 they load generic driver for usb and will say (Microsoft) if you look at the hub drivers. Might be needing to load signed Intel, asmedia, and/or whatever vendor signed drivers that replace Microsoft. I have have to do it before. Fernando from the post below does an awesome job. But this is speculation.

http://www.win-raid.com/t11f23-Modded-Intel-AHCI-and-RAID-Drivers-digitally-signed.html
[TouchPad Development] vishnumrao:
Yes, I remember it working many months ago when I was on the anniversary version (same machine). Rollback is a pain! Will do that only if absolutely needed.

I wish tptoolbox will work on my Ubuntu boot (same machine). I get a different error though. Will post the error in a thread update.

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I am using it on a USB 3.0 port. But its connected as a USB 2.0 on the motherboard (only has USB 2.0 on motherboard). I will try connecting to a dedicated USB 2.0 port as soon as I have a chance and check on updated drivers.
[TouchPad Development] dsmturbo:
I am hoping someone can help me out here.

I am not sure if jcsullins or RolandDeschain79 will see this but I am trying to get WebOS back on to TP and then Android again. After running webos doctor and when I am at the Language screen, I am trying to run the fix script file in Windows but either I have the incorrect syntax or ? All I can get is "unable to find device" error not found or error. I did run the palmenv.bat file first.

I am running this without the quotes:"novacom run file:///bin/sh < fix-webOS-certs.sh" from the windows command prompt in the directory where the file is located.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Have a read here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52922166&postcount=64

and download here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/b9htus84qs9x4jc/Activate+WebOS++HP+TP.zip

And watch this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IjtLNL-Lspc

I think the video is your best bet. The other links are just in case.

NT
[TouchPad Development] dsmturbo:
NT, thank you as always for coming to the rescue of this old man. The Activation files worked awesome. Now, I am off to find more info on locating and installing .ipk files.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
You might want to have a look here:

http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/WebOS_Survival_Kit

NT
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Hi gang, this is the post I was looking for, but I don't remember how to set up the novacom zip.. ie: place in ? folder .. how do I go about making tptb work on win 7?

finally got a new p/c and want to get back the tptb in case needed.. thanks..
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
Hello deafasheck,

in my link below to the alternate method (ROM GUIDE )

https://xdaforums.com/hp-touchpad/general/rom-guide-alternative-method-to-install-t3575861

if you scroll down in the OP of that link above you will see what I have called "Rolands Link" in very small size 2 font...

( See attached thumbnail near bottom of this post for a picture of it )

( and look for the little red circle in the bottom right of picture )

Click on "Rolands Link" and he explains how to install Java & Novacom!!!

P.S. This "Roland" is none other than the famous Techslinger Roland Deschain
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Thanks, but danged if I found it yet.. I used Rolands roms and lot of his help in here..

I'll have to surf through whole post and find this ,, for a year or two I knew what files to put where, but that's been forgotten, to much goin on.. lol

thanks for the link ...

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got it//// thanks!!!
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
good eye, deafasheck, good eye....

Roland warned me that the font was pretty small for his link.

Whats your plans deafasheck? To install the rock solid "JC Sullins Kit Kat 4.4.4" or are you going to get wild and install Marshmallow, Nougat or the Beta Oreo.
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
I have been having a blast running JC Sullins 4/4/4 with Philz recovery, seems to be the most stable.. I have only successfully ran Lollipop, and KK Masrsh I never got far into, Nougat has far to many Issues as well.. but, that's just me talking. I haven't got much knowledge on these as is, but I must say that my KK has never crashed, runs fluidly.. once I find the instructions and set up my tptb again, I'll get back into the test run mode. I got one mow I bought that is not turning on has a small blemish in screen, but, tptb or debrick may do the trick?

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I have found the tptb post and tried my best to install Novacom, it keeps popping up error// I have Java, this is why I am wondering what the original instructions where.. I recall having to unzip in certain file/folder etc. I can't find nothing on the moboot and I'm aat wits end tryin top get back to first step for want of better phrase.. I've used several Roms you and Double stuff built. but like said I am still not really knowing what all I'm doing, so I keep digging.. lol
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Setting up tptb and novacom

Well gang I need to ask how to install these? I can't find original post on how to unzip/place in folder directions.. on another note the java based is the only one that soent produce a set up error.. :(
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
Hello Deafasheck,

I am just wondering java version did you install?

On a cmd window, can you type in 'java -version' ( without the quotes ), and on "My Computer" icon can you select 3rd mouse button and select properties, this will get your build ( 32 or 64 bit ), most likely 64 bit. See my thumbnails below.

As you see I have 64bit Windows 10 with Java version 1.8, I think you need higher than 1.5 to run the Novacom installer....
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
Hello deafasheck, to quote Nevertells2, "Google is your friend" - after an investigation I have found a fresh link for the Novacom Installer 1.4.1, this may or maynot be your issue...but worth a try.

Remember there is 2 methods to install Novacom drivers, the method I outline below is the easiest method, the other method using 'novacom-64win.tgz' is not needed....

1) First Install Java: ( a reboot maybe profit after install )

https://www.java.com/en/download/

2) Then install Novacom, you may want to reboot after installing.

https://github.com/123Haynes/universal-novacom-installer/releases/download/v1.4.1/UniversalNovacomInstaller-1.4.1.jar

Here is a quote from the techslinger...

**Note: If you're having issues getting the Novacom drivers installed disable any antivirus or spyware protection that might be preventing the app from downloading the correct drivers for your system. -RolandD October 2014
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Thanks so much, I, running ver 18 (build 1.8.0_151-b12) on a 32 bit.
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Great, thanks for all the info. I am now here, when I click the novacom folder I unzipped in a new folder and unzipped tptb in same folder, but when I open it the winbat I get nothing, and yes tablets in webos recovery, what step have I missed?
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
You're trying to run it from the zipped file. You need to unzip it first.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
deafasheck, you are way over thinking this. At least we know you are running a 32 bit version of Windows. I'm going to give you a link to the 32 bit version of novacom. It is a Windows installer version of novacom. After you download it, right click on the file in your download folder and you will see an option to "Install". When you click on that, novacom will be installed in it's own folder called "Palm, Inc." Once you have that done, then you can unzip Sullins TouchPad Toolbox into that folder.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/9ffote6f35tv9ra/NovacomInstaller_x86.msi?dl=0

NT
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Thanks, yeah I got all out of shape once I lost laptop,cause I had everything already set up and well, I'm not much on remembering things.. lol this is what I needed... I have the wrong ones already unzipped. now I'll be able to complete the set up.. and delete them useless files.. thanks again..

Awesome.. now I got to find out how to revive a touchpad that wont turn on done tried button tricks, does debrick workon a powered off tablet?
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
No, nothing works with a powered off tablet.
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Thanks Shumash.. Im gonna try and take the inverter out, or motherboard and make my 16 gig a 32 gig.. got to get the tools first well, that and the instructions.. lol
[TouchPad Development] shumash:
Good luck with that. You're a real glutton for punishment :D. Me? I'd just buy one off Ebay and start with again.
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
+1 :)

Not to mention clips that get broken taking it apart are not available anywhere.

NT
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
I got so interested in all this , but I realize i'm in over my head. If it wasn't for JC Sullian I'd be screwed.. that tptb is a Touchpad savior..

I got mine runnig great, even tweaked gui, but made it to much and closes out tasks I sometimes want open..

I'm going to get back in the ROM testing, learn ,ore on contributing here to help those as I am/was..
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
New Issue in tptb

Im getting Error when open tptb.. its been working fine till today. I included screen shot if it may help?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
You do not explain what you are trying to do. That would help.

NT
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
My Mistake, I'm not sure why the Palm novacom failed to launch tptb, but I reinstalled windows and it all worked perfectly, I got to learn these posts, so I can return and delete the pointless ones I seem to have a few! :( I'll definitely be more thorough in the future.. :)
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Having taken a second look at the screenshot you attached, I think I have an idea why TPTB stopped working for you. You were keeping all the TPTB files in a separate folder with a path statement that pointed to them. Somehow the path statement got changed or deleted. Notice the screenshot of my Palm, Inc. folder, all files are in the root of the folder, so no path statement needed.

NT
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
Aww man, thanks so much I had it all in perfect order in the laptop, I'm not one big on instructions, takes me three four proof reads.. ha ha Merry Christmas..
[TouchPad Development] deafasheck:
I have mine working but my palm program folder doesnt look like yours, see new screen shot.. what is a solution?
[TouchPad Development] nevertells2:
Well, I guess no two solutions are exactly alike. If it is working for you then that is all that counts. I rarely use TPTB anymore. I have J.C. Sullin's CM11 installed which I am perfectly happy with. It does everything I need it to do on a tablet that is going on 7 years old and it does it well and reliably. All these other newer builds have too many bugs and gotcha's built in for my taste. All you have to do is read their threads and you see the comments and complaints about this does not work or that does not work, the WiFi does not stay connected all the time and on and on. I applaud the developers for their efforts on keeping the TouchPad up-to-date with the latest builds. But you will never see these builds work as reliably as Sullin's CM11. I've had my TP since the fire sale and spent many hours flashing builds all the way from CM7 all the way to the latest. Other than hanging around to try to help answer questions like yours, my testing days are over.

Cheers and Happy Holidays,

NT
[TouchPad Development] hparsons:
I hate to be "that guy", but can someone point me to information on how to include TPToolbox in the boot menu? The edits that jcsullins did on the top of this thread says that he's working on it, but I know I had it done somehow, but can't find my notes, don't remember how I made it work on mine, and can't find the method. I'm trying set up another TP for my granddaughter, and would like this built in so when I have to work on it.

Here's the screenshot from mine, so I KNOW I did it somehow.
[TouchPad Development] bryantjopplin:
Edit the moboot menu and place the uimage in the boot folder if I'm not mistaking pointing to it of course.
[TouchPad Development] DoubleStuff:
Just to be clear ( take 2 ): find the file TPToolbox-2015-01-08-v42.bin ( 12 MB ) in the /tptoolbox_v42 folder and copy via the cable connection to your Touchpad to an intermediate folder called "download".

Then using your PC rename that file to uImage.TPToolbox ( the uImage portion ( Capital Eye ) is required ).

Then on your HP Touchpad using an app like Rom Toolbox lite ( rooted ) copy said file from the "download" folder to your /boot folder. The key is you need at least 12 MB free space in the /boot menu before the copy.

And that my friend, is a wrap!
[TouchPad Development] Nomad1600:
Riffing on the prior poster's question... do you need to move the files over to your TouchPad from your PC first and then copy over the .bin file to your TouchPad's /boot folder? Its been years since I did this, and recently I started over (using the toolkit) and reflashed JC Sullins CM11 ROM over a Evervolv ROM where I had the TPTB in my moboot so I now need to re-add the TP ToolBox to my current moboot. Thanks!!