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[G3 General] Stromma:
One test alone may not prove anything. But to say that this isn't a good result?

Everything thing extra comes at a cost (in this case the screen). I certainly didn't expect the G3 to perform better than the S5, which is Samsung's latest flagship. Even if it's just slightly better I'd say that LG has done a pretty good job.

/ Strömma
[G3 General] Lennyuk:
Everywhere seems to be concurring that the view is if you use the screen for less than an hour at a time, the battery life is pretty decent, as soon as your screen is on for more than an hour continuous usage (tv/movie/games) then the battery life drops significantly very quickly.
[G3 General] fl4r3:
I had a feeling the battery life was going to be like this. The way LG have made the battery last as long as it does on the G3 is by reducing the refresh rate of the screen wherever it can...which means doing anything like watching videos or gaming will obliterate the battery in no time.

It's one of the reasons reviewers will give mixed opinions, some may just not do anything demanding with the phone while they have it and result in apparently 'amazing' battery life.

...imagine LG released a 1080p variant, the battery life would truly be amazing! :eek:
[G3 General] Jiyeon90:
Here's some wifi web browsing results from a Korean site.

Orange = max brightness

Blue = 230 nits

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Fixed
[G3 General] trincisor:
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[G3 General] MassiveEffect:
Actually they ran the same tests with Kitkat update on the G2 and they got even better endurance on the G2. Take a look at the attachment. The numbers you have shown for the LG G2 were with Jelly Bean.

PS: As seen with every phone that went from Jellybean to Kitkat, the video playback time has dropped by some margin. 2 hrs is nothing to scoff at. I have seen this on my Xperis S too with all of the custom Kitkat ROMs out there. Comparing the Kitkat numbers the G2 and G3 are pretty much on par but bear in mind GSMA tested with stored SD files. I asked someone else to test the % drop off while playing stored HD, FHD and SD videos. the difference was not that much so it's something to do with how Kitkat handles video playback. We can see it has negatively affected max playtime for video at least. Increased endurance really is the highlight of Kitkat, noticed that right away on the Nexus 4 and note 2s.
[G3 General] AhsanU:
My battery life is now completely excellent.

I'm not a real heavy user but I don't think I could completely drain the battery after a heavy day's worth of use. The standby time is great! If anyone here is having battery life issues, just give it some time and it should be stellar.
[G3 General] danny_and_2:
Just bought this battery on eBay & it arrived today with the post. Looking forward to test it. :)

Will let you know how it works, if you guys want too. :)
[G3 General] Mistertac:
Yea let me know... I'm actually confused myself i thought I got an email pertaining to it being shipped but maybe that was something else I bought. Either way. Hopefully it's a decent Battery

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] danny_and_2:
I'll be testing it from tomorrow, hopefully we will see some good results. :)

But it wasen't that bad of a price tag, if I remember right. But lets see!! Looking forward to zerolemon releasing thaa shizzel. ;)
[G3 General] leomd333:
There is need, he is talking rubbish. 5+ Hrs SOT on a 2k display getting powered by a standard battery is great. What is not needed is trolling around here.
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
Have a nice day...
[G3 General] leomd333:
*Night.
[G3 General] crni6:
Any one have worse battery life after 10e update? I notice it at every charge... Oh yeah...I start use GSMA app and it seem that SoT in settings and at this app not similar...its some 10 mins more on GSMa, someone notice that?
[G3 General] MassiveEffect:
Pretty good, usage is pretty close to what I would do.

Did you use the camera in that run? Generally when you play around with the camera does the battery % drop quickly? Does the back get hot when taking shots or doing 1080p recordings?

PS: What brightness level was it at?
[G3 General] BoundsChecking:
Okay, so this phone is freaking great. Had to travel back home for the rest of the week from University, and had Maps running for an hour long trip, at least 2 phones calls of over 20 minutes, texting, Facebook, Instagram, Kik, and lots of Pandora.

This is getting close to topping my G2! I could have probably gone to 10 hours of SOT at this rate! Or really close! ??
[G3 General] crni6:
How? :eek: are you rooted or something?
[G3 General] bluebobx:
I'll second that opinion - with reservations. First reservation is that the screen really does screw the battery life - but I think that everyone expected that. Example being that I had to use a 1A car charger the other day. Used gMaps and with the screen on the battery life was actually still falling. Switched the screen off (relying on the voice prompts) and started to gain some battery life.

Second reservation is that my battery seems to be quite sensitive to temperature. If I cool the battery then it seems to charge quicker, and if it's cold (<20C) then battery life is improved.

But the standby times for this thing are crazy. With light use (alarm clock, timer, occasional gMail check, wifi on 100%, quiet mode 11pm-5am) I can easily get 3 days and I've had more than four days between charges (although that time the battery percentage was down to single figures).

Question though - is this "gsam" battery monitor the one to have, i.e. better than the LG-provided (app?) in Settings?
[G3 General] vision89:
what is the trick? can you post your settings for this amazing screen on time please?
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
GSAM is not better, but more detailed.

You can see, how much energy each app is using for example..
[G3 General] jamespat93:
How are you managing to get this kind of battery life?

Can you share some tips please. Are you on Art or Dalvik? Have you rooted and debloated your phone? What brightness settings do you use? Etc.
[G3 General] koppee1:
agree...share some details...i barely get 4 hrs screen on time on mine. Although, i think telco signal is a big factor. Here in the Philppines, I assume we have lousy signal, thus worse battery life. I was in Taiwan previously using a Taiwan local sim, and was surprised my battery lasted MUCH MUCH longer. This was with my old sony z1. It was a huge difference. And I think I used my z1 more in Taiwan too..using gps, maps, and internet to find my way around....the telco is a major factor in battery life.
[G3 General] lossah:
I can easily get 7h screen time aswell. With about 25-30% brightness. :eek:
[G3 General] Mistertac:
If your somewhere inside where you can have your screen brightness set very low around 30% and you have great signal or are WiFi I can see where you'd get around 6+ hours sot.

The two biggest things I've noticed with this phone is obviously the screen brightness and then the signal. So I'm assuming anyone with the crazy 6+ times are under those conditions.

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] lossah:
At stable 4G 9h/day and the rest WiFi.

So yeah thats true. :P
[G3 General] Billy Madison:
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This guy pretty much nailed it, he doesn't live on his G3. He's so right. People who need more battery need to get a life instead
[G3 General] Mistertac:
It's not that people like me need a life. It's that I do these things with my phone as a hobby. Trying to push the limits with these new smart phones is fun to do.

Although I'm also not complaining about my Battery life, only trying to improve upon it. And the G3 does get very good Battery life and I'm very happy with it

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] BoundsChecking:
Yes! I'm rooted and debloated. Running Greenify, and I have most of my social media apps hibernated. I do have the any screen Google Now detection running though but that is a wake lock I am willing to endure!

I agree with you screen wise. It also depends on the brightness you have it set on. I have 40% with auto brightness turned on and it is perfect for me to see indoor and need be, outdoors as well. (With auto brightness raising the screen brightness of course)

I don't usually use GSAM battery, but rather Better Battery Stats. I believe the stock battery chart showing what is using my battery is sufficient enough for me, with BBS offering me a deeper look into what EXACTLY is using my battery, wakelock wise.

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I have rooted and debloated most of the useless crap LG and (mostly) AT&T put on my device. Probably haven't frozen all of it, but most of it.

I'm definitely running ART. This phone flies with ART, and I can see a decent jump in battery life when I am on it. I switched to Dalvik to try out the Xposed framework, and my phone became laggy as hell!

My screen is set to 40% auto brightness, and I have Greenified most of my social media applications. I did sign out of Google+, and I immediately saw a jump in battery. My phone actually deep sleeps instead of staying awake on 300MHz for 90% of my charge cycle!

Biggest solution I can say, is to download Better Battery Stats, and see just what is keeping your phone awake. Then decide where to trim and what to do from there.

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I had actually just gotten on WiFi when I took that screenshot. I use my data more than WiFi (have 10GBs to myself ?), and I have my brightness set to 40%. I generally can pull around 6-6.5 hours of SOT even in unfavorable conditions signal wise. I don't use my University WiFi (too slow!) and I'm generally outside studying in the Commons.

I don't get great service (3 maybe 4 bars at the most) but I can usually do pretty good SOT-wise regardless.
[G3 General] crni6:
No trick...just brightnes is on auto at 50% and turn off wifi over night. Auto sinc. on, location on...

Here is my stats after 43h of use and same charge as on that pics before...
[G3 General] koppee1:
Hmm...I'd just like to share...I've tried rooting, greenifying everything w xposed, freezing everything w titanium...and my battery was mediocre. I could barely get 4 hours of battery life. But last night, I tried uninstalling xposed and switching to art ( not compatible w xposed)..and maybe I just didn't use it as much today...i also removed it from changer so it wasn't charging while I was sleeping. my stats are

Usage on battery 16 hours and 57 mins

Screen on time 2hours and 46 mins

50 Percent battery left.

I still used greenify but no longer automatic since xposed gone

Lux for brightness, I like it fairly bright because the screen just looks oh so lovely if bright

No auto sync

While sleeping it was.on Wi-Fi

Rest of the day 3g

So far...this seems to be the best I've ever.seen.for battery performance. Maybe art does make a difference.
[G3 General] Japultra:
What's an acceptable number of wake locks? Is this typical or high?
[G3 General] pRo_lama:
Are you using only Greenify app? Do you have any other apps or tweaks on your G3? Because I can't imagine how could you have 6-7 hours on display. I can barely reach 3 hours. I have Indian V10f. Could you please give me some advices. Thanks.
[G3 General] bedberkut:
I get around 6 hours too on my g3

I am using ART and greenify which improved my battery life by around 1-2 hours. Also i don't use batterydrainers like facebook, google+, google now (especially not the ok google thing) or gps. The picture shows a day of redditing and watching youtube mostly over wifi at 60% auto brightness
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
So close to 6!
[G3 General] ehmjay:
anyone can post good lux settings?
[G3 General] Mistertac:
Here's my Daytime profile.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wbfsb3761amxpev/lux_profiles.lux

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] rfarrah:
I test-drove Greenify yesterday for the first time. I had heard about the app, but my G2 got such great battery life I never had the urge (or need!) to try it. My G3 had been getting roughly 15-16 hours of battery-life. Not horrible by any means, but that meant it was below 30%, sometimes 20%, by 7 p.m. for me. Having gotten used to much more than that with my G2, it really bugged me.

Using Greenify yesterday, I still had 49% left at 10:00 p.m. last night. My settings are not particularly aggressive, so I guess there is just a lot of stuff working in the background. At any rate, I would recommend giving the app a try if you're having some issues with your battery life. As always, YMMV.
[G3 General] splcfiya:
If you took off comic sans you could probably get passed 6 hours :-p.
[G3 General] BoundsChecking:
For all those that are wondering, go ahead and install Greenify. Let it hibernate the apps you don't need to constantly update all day and let it just take a test drive for a few days. I can guarantee you that you will see a jump in battery life.

In my experience, using ART runtime does seem to help in regards to overall smoothness, and battery life. Just my two cents.
[G3 General] Mistertac:
Using the experimental features with Greenify you can pretty much hibernate everything and still get your notifications. Definitely worth using, silly not to.

Also creating a Shortcut on your desktop to force hibernation rally can help. I use it right before I lock my phone.

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] BoundsChecking:
I do use the experimental feature myself, but for someone that has not used the application before, I would advise against it.

Your point is still valid though.
[G3 General] Mistertac:
True. Get to know how it works before you start hibernating system apps and such. It's definitely an app that everyone should be using in my opinion.

Really that's what Android should be doing for us anyways although I also understand why it's not designed that way.

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] ChrisTahoe:
I get about 4 hours SOT at work with bad reception, 5 with mixed usage, and nearly 6 using just WiFi (with a bit of 4G usage when I went to run some brief errands). This is a stock VZW G3 with some bloat disabled, Google Now off, but BT, WiFi, and GPS always on.
[G3 General] blackwrx02:
Rooted last night. Removed all the carrier IQ I could find, froze unused apps and installed greenify. So far my battery life has been outstanding today. Normally I'd be right around 50% but today I'm at 81%. Should have done this when I first got the phone. Huge improvement.
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
Do You really think Google Now drains the battery? I just turned mine off just to experiment Now. Also I clicked the the experimental portion of greenify And didn't realize You could Still receive notifications. If the app is I'm a sleep state How in the world would it receive a notification. Does it actually work?

EDIT: so I tried the experimental greenify to push notifications even while face book was hibernating and I didn't receive Any of then. There were 3 all together. Now What?
[G3 General] duke69111:
Would lowering the screen resolution to 1080p help with battery life? I saw somewhere that it can be done.
[G3 General] IXChicharitoXI:
No. The screen will always be running 2k.
[G3 General] JeffyLube0:
I was surprised how little battery streaming music took with the screen off. Google music radio hardly drains any battery if i turn off the automatic cache
[G3 General] navlem:
Yes it'll help with battery life

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[G3 General] tee00max:
I use Greenify with every android phone I own and never knew that experimental feature worked. Facebook Messenger and Beautiful Widgets have SOOO many wakelocks and just constantly runs in the background. Turning this feature on and now and see how it works out for me.
[G3 General] Mistertac:
I'd imagine you'll notice a difference. If tho things aren't hibernating correctly you can turn on Boost Mode in Greenify and also create the Force Hibernation shortcut. Either way though.. Good stuff

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] a_akash:
Battery Drain

My battery dairns pretty quick on the g3 ..i have unplug it at 100% and then just let it sit in an hour or two it drops to 90% ..and so on ..and i have no idea why !!
[G3 General] tee00max:
Right, I was just checkng BOOST Mode out, I will run it like it is right now and see how it goes. I cant even comment on the battery life at all since I just got it lastnight. Just hope its better than my M8 I had previously..

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Download GSAM Battery Monitor and then f you will be able to find out whats exactly draining your battery.
[G3 General] Mistertac:
If it's dropping by 10%. While it's just sitting and not being used then you definitely have a WakeLock issue going on.

I unplugged my phone last night at 100% and it sat over 7 hours while on WiFi and this morning was at 99% .

These phones have great stand by time. Grab Better Battery Stats and post screen shots of your WakeLocks and Alarms etc. Either here or I also have a Battery Thread going to...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=54342046

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] duke69111:
Thanks for the response and the video link.
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
I tried it and I haven't gotten a single regular Facebook notification. What am I missing?
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
Finally got over 6! The battery life these last few days have been fantastic very heavy usuage
[G3 General] jmerchant:
For the D851 (non-root) - found the biggest help was opting out of the System Manager Application. I had some terrible overnight battery life and I went through this (http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-11710) and also turned off Quite Time and used Tasker to quiet the phone at night...This got me 6+ hours at 100% at night - quiet impressed...
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
I froze 3 system manager apps running using Titanium Backup and haven't looked back since. It definitely boosted my on screen time. That along with greenify has given me about a day and a half of battery life of a typical days usuage. My next goal is to try and get 7 hrs. Hopefully by turning off google now which I never use, I can achieve this.

What is Quite Time?
[G3 General] jmerchant:
I'm not rooted, so TB is out for the time being...

Sorry Quiet Time is Quiet Mode...(Under Settings -> Sound)
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
How did you disable it without being rooted? I tried to do it before I was rooted and it only let me complete it for 1 out of the 3 services
[G3 General] navlem:
No problem. Hope that helped!
[G3 General] jmerchant:
For tmobile it's an opt in/out... with the link I posted... while this May or May not disable it completely, I haven't seen it taking battery anymore, which was running big numbers before I opted out.
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
I just installed the google now launcher. I am curious to see how much drain this will take from the battery. Has anyone else installed the google now launcher? It is now available in the play store for us, no sideloading APK required. Any experiences with it yet on our device?
[G3 General] ehmjay:
this carrier IQ thing is installed only on US phones right? i cant seem to find it on my d855
[G3 General] veddandekar:
Loving it! Especially coming from N5. I only disabled auto brightness and kept it at about 40%...... Also i didnt use those lag reducing method which is said to reduce battery.
[G3 General] Nitemare3219:
I tried it. Felt slightly more sluggish than stock (bloat frozen) which surprised me. Definitely not as smooth as my N5. No comment on battery life because I'm not using it.

Sent from my LG G3
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
I uninstalled it once I realized knock on wouldn't work on the launcher to put the phone to sleep. It's crazy how used to I've gotten to that feature. I take out my nexus 7 Now and start knocking on it thinking It's going to wake it up
[G3 General] lossah:
You can click at the top of the screen. Doubleclick*.

Or install screen off and lock (think its called) app. Im using the app. Just put a shortcut and click on it = sleep.

Otherwhise i agree. :P Im really used to it. If im using another device and doubletap and nothing happens...! "Whats wrong with it?!"
[G3 General] BOOMHAUER1123:
This was from last Saturday.

Sent from my LG-D850
[G3 General] thegrants82:
Was running over 5hrs screen time everyday until yesterday when I installed the Google launcher. I went over 6 hours for the first time today. The LG launcher and home screen are a resource hog.
[G3 General] helikido:
Thats exactly what I get on my tmobile G3
[G3 General] bustinstugots24:
So you are most definitely suggesting the Google Now launcher? But doesn't that conflict with people saying that Google Now drains the battery? You are forced to keep the option on if you're using the launcher. Maybe I'll Give it another show. My best time was 6 hrs and at min on the regular stock launcher. I used the camera today for the first time and it really drained the battery quickly
[G3 General] bedberkut:
You can also use apexor nova launcher, both improved thebattery life for me and i experience no lag at all (now on nova prime) you can also use knock with apex and nova prime. Just doenload a screen off app and then use gestures to activate said app
[G3 General] BoundsChecking:
What did you use to change the font. Mine doesn't seem to stick after reboot.
[G3 General] koppee1:
Ifont works for me...rooted
[G3 General] veddandekar:
I used the built-in in font changer and downloaded the font SJicecream from lg store.

It does stick after reboot for me. Try a different font and if nothing else works, a reset most definitely will....
[G3 General] jorewe:
It amazes me to see the kind of batterylife some of you are getting from this device. So far I'm a week in on my G3 (855 eur) and I'm looking at 14 hours with 2.5~3 hours of SOT at best.

If I use the gorgeous camera for more than a few quick snaps it cuts those numbers in half. At the moment I'm really disappointed, especially coming from the G2.

I can literally see the percentage drop while using the phone.

On top of that it shuts down every now and then.

I tried rooting and greenify with and without exposed since I read that ART could give me a few more hours but it made no real difference.

If a reset/reflash doesn't fix anything I'm taking this thing back and I'm not shure if I'm staying with LG.

Anyone else with this kind of battery life?
[G3 General] lossah:
Youre having problem with overheating.

Try another firmware. :P That usually help people. I never had those issues no matter firmware actually.
[G3 General] dan_hin:
Yep except standby is much better for me. I'm also seeing a wakelock that's about double the screen on time for Android OS. I have a feeling there are still optimizations to be made to the radio for European d855s,
[G3 General] Mistertac:
You can definitely do things to help your Battery life. After freezing/uninstalling bloat and using Greenify plus turning Location to Battery Saver Mode and turn WiFi Always Scanning to Off you should be in good shape.

- Sent From My G3
[G3 General] jorewe:
I have already disabled scanning and put wi-fi off while sleep.

Changing the settings for location have negligible effects for me (haven't had a droid for years where I noticed any difference really and I had a few).

I disabled Google Now, and disable keep-awake via app-ops on all of the apps thats not system-apps.

I genuinely appreciate all the help I can get here, at the moment the best way for me conserve battery is to let it constantly rest in my pocket [emoji1]

I'll flash a different firmware tonight (currently on 10e) and come back here crying if that doesn't help. [emoji13]