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[Xperia Z2 General] numskull:
I'll keep this breif, got my z2 from phones4u, with £70.50 cashback as part of the offer..... My cashback went into my account on the 28th of april but a duplicate payment also went in. I know they only give me 7 days to pont out any contract errors/phone faults etc to them, otherwise tough luck on my part, so i was expecting to either hear from them within a few days or have the money took back from my account, neither of these happened.

However on monday (21 days after paying me) i recieved this email:

As you will be aware, you have recently received an automated payment from Phones 4u directly in to your bank account for £70.5 on the 28th April 2014.

Due to a process error, in addition to the agreed payment, you have however also received a duplicate payment of the same amount also on the 28th April. As this was not part of the offer we therefore require this overpayment to be repaid by 8th June 2014.

In order to make the repayment as convenient as possible for you, you can make one payment of £70.5 by one of the following methods:

Check or postal order made payable to Phones 4u Ltd, sent to the following address:

Phones 4u Ltd

Osprey House

Ore Close

Lymedale Business Park

Newcastle Under Lyme

ST5 9QD

Bank transfer to the following bank details, Sort Code 30-00-02, Account Number 00704305, quoting your reference number and your surname,

Credit / Dierct card payments can be processed by telephoning 01782 676944 or 0800 294 6023 Monday to Friday, between the hours of 9.00am - 4.30pm.

Please accept our apologies for this inconvenience. We appreciate your assistance.

Yours sincerely,

Phones 4u

My question is can i legally not pay this??? I've searched through the t&c's and can find absolutely nothing about errors on there part (altho any issues/errors or whatnot at my end need to be dealt with within 7 days) and this email also doesnt mention any further action if i dont pay....

Am i legally allowed to tell them politely to go f*** themselves and pay more attention to what they are doing in future?

P.S. Dunno if they operate in other countries but im referring to uk law
[Xperia Z2 General] ProdigalFather:
Pay it back. It isn't yours.

Also, they do have full legal recourse to recover the money, regardless of how long ago the error occurred. It doesn't need to be in the T&Cs because it's already in the law of the land.
[Xperia Z2 General] psb07158:
Dreadful OP. Give the money back. Morally and legally the correct thing to do.
[Xperia Z2 General] corallus:
Send a reply stating "for any non contractual payments to be made by me will unfortunately incur an administration charge of no less than £69.00. "

"payments made by myself in the form of cheque or postal orders will also incur a single charge of £1.50 for postage and packing.

Please advise me on how you wish to proceed."
[Xperia Z2 General] BanziBaby:
I would pay it back mate or else they will keep chasing you for it & pass it on to a debt collection agency.
[Xperia Z2 General] PiskopatYazar:
if you wanna go into the black list dont pay it. my uncle is a 2 business owner and 4 mortgage owner because of silly £60 payment he didnt pay he cant get any loan from the bank.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
If your device is not network locked and you have the original bill with you, you may not pay them back. ;) They aren't "legally" entitled to it.

Had the same issue with Domino's btw. :p Didn't pay em ****.
[Xperia Z2 General] numskull:
What do you mean by original bill?? All my bills get emailed to me so i have at least 2 years worth, i didnt think there was anything they could legally do apart from ask you to pay it back. I think its something to do with statutory consumer rights, kinda how shops state 'please check change before leaving as mistakes cannot be rectified later, (and yes i am that person who will walk out of a shop, then stick my head back through the door to tell them they gave me too much change, but cant have it back as i've left the shop)..... and whoever mentioned it being morally right to pay it back, id normally agree but this is phones4u were talking about, my morals followed theres out the door
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
The payment receipt for the phone. With which you'd be claiming warranty in future if needed.
[Xperia Z2 General] numskull:
Oh right, yeah i got that, and it doesnt mention any cashback, only mentions btx300 speaker, z2 and a gourmet society membership
[Xperia Z2 General] Xernoxis:
Ehm if he recieved money that is not his of course he has to pay it back. If someone transfers 1 million to your account by mistake it does not make it yours. And you have to pay it back.
[Xperia Z2 General] corallus:
Nah, look at phones 4 u terms and conditions.

Phones 4 u cannot be held liable for any action ..... Caused by any neglectful act by yourself.

That's a 2 way street right there.
[Xperia Z2 General] wase4711:
2 wrongs do NOT make a right; it doesn't matter who makes a financial error, its part of being a good human being to give anyone, person, or business their money back if you receive it in error..

Hard to believe that people now a days even have to ask something like this..No wonder this world is going to hell, no one gives a damn about anyone but THEMSELVES
[Xperia Z2 General] corallus:
Don't get me wrong, I'd pay it back. But he doesn't want to and he wants to know can he say "tough"

Morally, no

Legally, probably no too, but he's well within his right (just as these big Businesses do) to apply administration costs, fees etc.

And please, we all know the world's going to he'll because of banks and big business, and they're the first in line to charge excessively for menial things.
[Xperia Z2 General] wase4711:
Agreed, but, once again, just because some one or some company doesnt do the "right thing", that doesn't mean that its ok for them OR us to be the same way...

Karma is a funny thing; live your life and treat others the way YOU want to be treated, and life will be good for you...
[Xperia Z2 General] corallus:
That's why I'd give it back,

but he's not me.
[Xperia Z2 General] delsus:
This is something only a lawyer can tell you, they would have to go through the T&C and find any loopholes or ways out, this of course would cost more than £70 so just pay it back and avoid any trouble.
[Xperia Z2 General] corallus:
Once signed up for cheap mobile with free xbox 360, next day, 2 phones and 2 xbox's arrived, I rang up place to enquire as to the two phones being sent. Reply was 1 is your contract phone sir and one is the complimentary payg phone. I then said but what about the 2 xbox's, "what?"

Two xbox's came.

"sir, our records show only 1 xbox was picked and sent, I suggest you go and recount the items, ok?"

Err ok.

"is there anything else I can do for you today?"

No that's all thanks

"thanks for you call MR LUCKY"

Was I in the wrong for never contacting them again?
[Xperia Z2 General] Kamran9558:
I'd say return it mate, Karma is a ***** :)
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Ethically, yes. Legally, Nope.
[Xperia Z2 General] Xernoxis:
I don't know what country you live in, but in my country it is the law. I've seen several cases that people recieve money that isn't theirs. They withdraw it thinking it is theirs to take, then they have to repay everything.
[Xperia Z2 General] ProdigalFather:
I have already answered, but apparently I was unclear.

I just want to preface this with the fact that:

I am a lawyer.

I am in the UK.

A quick excerpt from the Theft Act, 1968:

(a) a wrongful credit has been made to an account kept by him or in respect of which he has any right or interest;

(b) he knows or believes that the credit is wrongful; and (c) he dishonestly fails to take such steps as are reasonable in the circumstances to secure that the credit is cancelled.

So actually, it can be considered a criminal offence and you could potentially be charged with Theft by retaining a wrongful credit.

However, it is much more likely that Phones4U will attempt to recover their money through a collection agency, and ultimately through civil action (which will lead to a CCJ against you and make it difficult to obtain credit in the future).

So - not only is it morally incorrect, but a judge in a Civil court would rule against you, and technically if a complaint was made to the police you would be charged and likely cautioned with a criminal offence.

All for 70 odd quid that you didn't earn and have no business keeping.

You asked the question, you've got your answer. I'm not going to waste time addressing the point about what is or isn't in Phones4U's T&C's because unless you walked into the shop and had them sign your own set of T&C's with the same such disclaimer, then it's a moot point.

Good luck whatever you decide to do.
[Xperia Z2 General] wase4711:
THIS!!
[Xperia Z2 General] ProdigalFather:
It is equally illegal in India to keep any funds that you know aren't yours.

---------- Post added at 06:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:19 PM ----------

If you made an effort to contact them and inform them of their error (and can prove it), and they did not ask you to send it back then it is legally yours.

Ethically, I'd say the same, you tried and they didn't seem to care. Nothing more to it.
[Xperia Z2 General] flumps:
I had something similar with BT once, canceled my account and got my final payments back plus an extra £900. Few weeks later I get a letter claiming it was done by mistake and I need to pay it back. I informed them that there would be a charge on my part of £100 per day their money was in my account, 3 weeks had gone by. Well after a little bit of back and forth I kept the money and didn't hear from them again :)

Sent from a payphone using coins
[Xperia Z2 General] numskull:
treating others the way you want to be treated is all well n good, but it just gives people the oppurtunity to take advantage, id rather treat people how they treat me, and in my experiance phones4u arent interested in the customers needs or wants, only interested in selling the highest contract and making there commision..... i knew what i wanted before dealing with them n still had to tell them no i dont want that phone/network/service.... sorry but when dealing with phones4u i leave my morals behind, just as there staff do when they go to work in the mornings
[Xperia Z2 General] wase4711:
If you dislike them so much, then don't shop there...

Here again, 2 wrongs never make a "right"..
[Xperia Z2 General] numskull:
Valid point, however i wanted to stay on vodafone and i wanted the btx300 speaker, phones4u was the only place i saw that i could get the speaker as free gift with contract (coulda got it free if id have bought outright a sim free phone), sometimes we have to work with our enemies to achieve the results we want.
[Xperia Z2 General] ProdigalFather:
Lol. Certainly live up to your name OP...

Sent from my XPERIA Z2
[Xperia Z2 General] strikerdj2011:
its all about having a conscience really and also there is a legal part this is not 1st time phones 4 u have ****ed up for customers to cut a long story short i ordered an galaxy s5 via upgrade but wasnt out for a couple days so i rand up to get it changed to a htc one m8 they said would take a couple days to change it so i said ah **** it so i ordered an htc one m8 on line thinking there would just cancel other and put the new one through wel to my surprise 2 htc one m8s and a galaxy s5 turned up on my door will just leave this here for people to work out what i done about it did my conscience get the better of me or not lol :good:
[Xperia Z2 General] flumps:
Did it bullocks :)

Rightfully so too

Sent from a payphone using coins
[Xperia Z2 General] strikerdj2011:
yes it did happen lol there is 2 there and am taking pic with other htc one m8

EDIT oh you mean my conscience you are correct haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
I'm running baja rom by [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] which uses Wanam Xposed framework. SS 3.71 on MJ7. Is it possible to put a button in the pull down tab for switching headphones between stereo and mono? Usually at work I only use one ear bud and need mono but otherwise I listen with 2 buds in stereo. I'm tired of going to settings>device>accessibility then scroll and check the box every time.

Thanks in advance for your ideas!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
Anyone help a brother out?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Triscuit:
I'm not sure if this is possible but I've never tried something like this. I'm wondering if there is an app you could download that would be able to do this for you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sokrboot:
I've looked all over for apps and framework modules but haven't found anything.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJNoff:
This is a follow up to this post of mine: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52821145

Contacted VZW support because after the OTA Kitkat update (stock ROM) on my SCH-i545, using the keyboard mic suddenly doesn't pause my music (Play Music or Pandora). All previous Android versions on two phones have paused music when using the mic for voice-to-text.

VZW rep "doesn't think" it's supposed to work that way anyway. Voice-to-text works (if I stop any music manually) and the music apps work, so no problem. (Arrogant bastard.)

So, can I please get any of you with a stock S4 running Kitkat to test whether when playing music in Google Play Music or Pandora, and clicking the mic button on the Samsung keyboard in the stock SMS app, the music pauses until you're done with voice-to-text?? The VZW rep couldn't say with authority whether it was supposed to work or not, and seemed reluctant to find out. If it works for a number of you out there, I want to tell VZW this.

Note: In Settings under My device/Language and input, I have the Samsung keyboard and Google voice typing enabled, the latter of which provides the mic button on the keyboard.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
I'm running Kit Kat factory stock (NC5) rooted.

With Play Music running, I opened google search and hit the mic button. The music paused while I spoke.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJNoff:
Thanks, k1mu. I use it in the SMS app, and it's always stopped music from playing while the mic was active. Coworker here with my identical phone/OS tested and it stopped, too. Stupid VZW rep just didn't want to deal with this one-off issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJNoff:
402 54558555

k1mu - Interestingly, the music does stop for me for a voice search in Google Search. What happens if you're playing music and hit the mic button on the Samsung keyboard in the SMS app?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJNoff:
So I just reset the phone. Didn't sign in with my Google account. Tested, and music DOES pause when I use the keyboard microphone button in SMS! Now to reinstall apps ONE AT A TIME until I find the offending app. Grrr!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJNoff:
Found the culprit! Factory Reset phone. Did not allow phone to reinstall my downloaded apps. Updated default apps until one of them broke the function. Google Search broke it. Will not allow Google Search to update from now on.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Triscuit:
Now that's some good troubleshooting!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TJNoff:
Yeah, thanks! Tested this on a coworker's phone. Identical VZW SCH-i545 with stock OTA 4.4.2. He had the Google Search update and his keyboard mic button DID pause music... until he put the Google Search widget on his desktop. Once he did that, or used Search, it broke the pause function. I guess the issue doesn't show up unless you have the widget on your desktop or use Google Search. I have the widget and use it, so that's an issue for me.

Posted in Google's Google Search forum. I guess we'll see if someone at Google picks up on that...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sweeds:
I downgraded to "Google Search 3.2.17.1009776" and problem solved. Music now pauses when using the Google Voice Input. There's an apk repository here on androiddrawer.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] huckdogg:
Thank you for tracking down the cause of the issue and the fix. I was just trying to figure it out on my VZW LG G2 when I ran across this thread.

Do we know if there is an entry in the Google issue tracker for this bug? I would love to be able to update Google Search at some point.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sweeds:
You're welcome. Solved it for myself, sharing it for the masses :D

OP said he posted in a forum. If you report it officially or find a bug report, post it and myself plus other will +1.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sweeds:
Bump. Problem still exists, and I can't update Google Search without breaking the Voice Input keyboard.

Anybody find an issue tracker? I'd like to spread visibility of this issue. I've sent feedback through the app.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] huckdogg:
I never was able to find a reference to this issue on any of the tracker sites, but I wasn't sure where to look. I am like you, though, I haven't been able to update Google Search. I hope the next Google Search update fixes this problem, but I am skeptical.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] huckdogg:
Just as an update, the newest version of Google search doesn't fix this issue.

That is the update released June 25.

3.4.16.1149292.arm
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] alexwhittemore:
And the newest still, 3.5.15.1254529.arm ALSO fails to fix this bug.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] huckdogg:
3.5.16.1262550.arm released July 7 doesn't fix the issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sweeds:
I made a post on the Google product forums. Please post there for visibility.

https://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!category-topic/websearch/issue-search/yoUvyveJ-yw
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] juanito157:
same problem exist 4 me on my note 4

So how do install the older version of Google search ? Is the only way a master reset?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] huckdogg:
You need to go to Settings -> Application Manager and find "Google Search". Hit the "Uninstall Updates" button. To be safe, I would clear the app's data, too. Then you can install the older version.

Be sure the find the Google Search page in the Play Store and turn off automatic updates.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] juanito157:
Thank you for the quick reply,however I tried that before posting ...there is no "uninstall updates" tab
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] juanito157:
screen shot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] juanito157:
Problemed fixed

Forced stopped it, Cleared the data, cleared the cache and restarted the application.. Problem is gone... Didn't have to delete or reinstall anything
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] juanito157:
The problem has returned
[General Topics] Marcski:
I have a WWE ROM installed on my Wizard, but would like the regional settings on Dutch.

The problem is that the current day is now displayed in dutch, but everything else is English (see screenshot-attachment)

How can i change this, so that the day is in english aswell?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yingjai:
Anybody notice a strange battery drain after some app updates? I don't know which app is causing this because it's not showing in battery stats.

The battery used to be able to last all day with no problem, but is now struggling to.

Android OS and System are both at 18% and 19% and 7 other entries are between 3-5%.

Only thing changed I believe was that I updated some apps along the way and noticed this drain maybe 2 days ago.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nidza:
Install GSAM battery monitor. It is useful even for non rooted devices. Note 3 has strange battery statistics. What I see in GSAM makes much more sense and alike all previous androids i have owned.

Tapatalk Pro
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SleemLDJ:
I noticed this too. However I've read that the recent Hangout update is causing battery drains but Google has fixed it and another update should be out soon.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yingjai:
Glad to say that the problem seem to have finally disappeared. Over 9 hours on battery and have 67% left. More than what I had before after 6 hours.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antochahn:
Hey guys,

tried to install an new rom, didn´t. My phone does not start anymore and trying to go into recovery mode also doesn´t work. It kicks me out after a few seconds and tries to reboot. tried already to reinstall cwm and twrp, but same happens again. Any help???
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antochahn:
(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.44.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 4D.14.3250.26

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 1.29.111.11

(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON

(bootloader) serialno: HT33FW902416

(bootloader) imei: 354436053213862

(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000

(bootloader) product: m7_ul

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064

(bootloader) modelid: PN0710000

(bootloader) cidnum: T-MOB101

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 3786mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: on

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SaHiLzZ:
Bootloader still unlocked? What custom recovery and version do you have?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antochahn:
well, I installed the current version of both and none of them were able to boot. Meanwhile I went back to stock. but phone still won´t boot and stucks in bootscreen. problem i cant turn it off anymore to go to bootloader
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SaHiLzZ:
When I ask what version, it is NOT CURRENT, it should be 2.6.x.x.. etc

You can hold the power button to force reboot it. Also hold the volume down button to boot into bootloader mode,.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antochahn:
I worked with twrp 2.7.0.0 and cwm 6.0.4.8. Power and volume does not work, just the button lights are going on and off, but it does not go into bootloader
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SaHiLzZ:
Download this: http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/ota_m7_...-6_release_315479_signedw7j9zkknughsv3z9-zip/

Extract firmware.zip from it then do the following:

Lock bootloader

fastboot oem rebootRUU

fastboot flash zip firmware.zip

fastboot flash zip firmware.zip

fastboot reboot

how does it go?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] antochahn:
Well, did that! doesn´t boot! when i try to do that again cmd says "waiting for device"

Managed to get into bootloader, and locked it again but "tampered" is not gone

cmd says fastboot flash succesfull but the mirror with green loading bar (above the htc logo) gets stuck!!!

I downloaded the RUU from your link, typed in cmd

fastboot oem lock

fastboot oem rebootRUU

fastboot flash zip RUU.zip

response: 12 signature verify fail

tried a few times
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bassem.mohsen:
Hello All

I have a problem that mobile doesn't see USB connection.

When I connect the USB the mobile start Charging, but the sign for USB connection doesn't appear in the mobile

Also I tried To access download mode, Odin Doesn't see the mobile connected.

I have recovery TWRP, and tried Stock based ROM, and CyanogenMOD.

Can anyone help me, or experienced such symptom before?
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joku1981:
1. Go to settings and select "More" tab. There you can see the 3 dots..

2. Please select "About Device" which is the last option under "More".

3. Please tap "BUILD NUMBER" for 7 times. Remember "BUILD NUMBER" will be disabled when you start clicking.

4. 7 times clicking build number will start the "Developer Mode".

5. Go to "Developer Mode" and untick debugging mode.

6. Conect ur phone to USB conector again and tell me how it works :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shirhan:
i can't connect to a px

I have the same problem. I tried everything you know.

i tried kies 3, MTP mode, debagging, different cable and even different pc. I have a samsung galaxy s4 gt-i9500 android 4.3 please help!!! Please
[Miscellaneous Android Development] DamienMc:
reserved just in case
[Miscellaneous Android Development] twadda218:
Heck yes!

Ive been searching for a rom for this phone forever! I deleted bloatware from stock rom and now cannot update. It would be nice to see if this will work! Thank you sooo much!