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[Sony Xperia ZL] kobolt99:
Amazing!

Google play services sucks like 85% of my battery. Cant believe you get 4 days with regular use.

What's your estimated batery time when charge is at 100%?

Have you rooted?

I'm not sure if this affected my ZL

Regards.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
What version did you flash?

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[Sony Xperia ZL] katananja:
TIM, but doesn't really matter what version you use, disable GPS and all other things you don't use and don't install apps that keeps "phone home" all the time.
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
nope. it was there in 4.3. but now the nfc icon is not there in status bar. it's a bug. my friend's having Z1. in that, the nfc icon is visible in status bar when turned on.

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yeah. battery is draining like crazy in standby mode even when stamina mode is turned on. in my case it's not google play services which is draining the battery, but Android System.
[Sony Xperia ZL] batrian:
If you really want the NFC icon the only thing you need to do is editing Build.prop thats all.
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
did. and it worked. ro.nfc.icon.enable=false. it was false in 4.3 too. but still i was able to see the icon. but now i made it true and it works. weird
[Sony Xperia ZL] TAL333:
I'm not on 4.4.2 right now but I recall that under Settings/Personalization/Statusbar you could choose which icons were displayed.
[Sony Xperia ZL] Jaycel0820:
there is no nfc icon there
[Sony Xperia ZL] abc150781:
Hi Everybody,

I have a question, have all of you upgrade the phone from ftf with flashtool?

Is there somebody how upgrade the ZL by OTA? In germany we have got OTA upgrade yet.

But, in germany all users which use the ftf upgrade procedure reported same problems.

I guess I will wait until the OTA upgrade in germany is available before I upgrade my ZL. Hopefully I isn't recommended to wipe the phone :p

BR

Patrick
[Sony Xperia ZL] Adilson Casula:
i did it via PCCompanion. no "downloaded" ftl, and i'm having problems
[Sony Xperia ZL] keenofhiphop:
Bei mir geht's

It's working for me

Regards

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[Sony Xperia ZL] ren2008:
Im not rooted but I did the update via PCC. I will report what my estimated battery life says when I'm at 100%.

Thanks
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
lol no. it's not there. nvm i edited build.prop and it's working
[Sony Xperia ZL] BlackFriar:
Just to follow up with my previous problems, grew frustrated and did a full factory reset, then used PC Companion's "repair my phone" function to restore 4.4.2. Redundant, but whatever, don't have flashtool on this laptop yet and it was quicker.

Now I can see what people are talking about, 4.4.2 has amazing battery life. I've been using it for 21 hours 18 minutes on battery while talking, a constant 4G connection while in and out of WiFi and still at 71% charge remaining. Estimates are for 2 days, 6 hours remaining (3 days 19 hour in Standby mode). I have yet to try Stamina mode.

Most impressive once that bug is gone.
[Sony Xperia ZL] Edwrib:
Just a check bug to see if everyone have:

With a secure lock: Go to hangouts start typing, don't close the keyboard and hit power button.

Hit again to turn screen on, keyboard is in front of lock screen?

Like this
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
Let me see if I understand. Did u make a factory reset using the system, and after u executed a "repair" by PCC? Is that right?

I'm thinking to try this. :good:
[Sony Xperia ZL] doclloyd:
which bug are you specifically calling out that the factory reset fixed for you? I'm going to try clearing data (not just cache) on Google Play Services to see if that helps. Also disabling use of WiFi for location services and see if that changes anything. This GPS using up so much battery is so frustrating, especially since it (Google Play Services 4.4 APK update) coincided with the KitKat upgrade.
[Sony Xperia ZL] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
For your information, NFC icon is removed since 4.2.2 while 4.3 is the LTE icon changed to 4G.. :rolleyes:
[Sony Xperia ZL] BlackFriar:
Yes and it worked, initially. It now appears I'm back in the same position:

Google Services - 87% battery use. Screen - 6% use. Android System - 2% use.

Google Play Services

CPU Total 2h 16m 54s

Keep Awake 1h 57m 42s​

I assumed it has something to with with a buggy wakelock associated with Google Play Services keeping my phone awake, processor at speed and from accessing deep sleep states?!
[Sony Xperia ZL] felcocs:
.230

Hello guys, I'm following this thread closely.

I have done my tests. I got a C6503, it is a Brazilian Xperia ZL.

First I have tried the Nordic TFT ROM. I get very disappointed. It was laggy in all ways, so I decided to put a ROM Customized by a Carrier... choose my true carrier and it got a little better, the only thing I can say that it sticks with the Settings Menu lag.

So I tried the Commercial and Journalist C6503 US Generic version, provided by NUT. Is was just the same as the Carrier Customized Version. I can't see this release doing his job at the Xperia ZL. A friend of mine has the Z1 and it is very good the ROM came via OTA.

And I did a full wipe of the phone in two of those ROMs, the Generic US and on a Carrier Customized. I not only did a flash wiping the whole device, but after that I got to PCC and did a Repair. So it was wiped.

After all I just got the old 4.3... flashed... and I'm happy now.

Cheers,

felco
[Sony Xperia ZL] RyomaEchizen:
http://xdaforums.com/nexus-4/general/4-4-4-4-x-qualcomm-optimized-dalvik-t2546120

This works on Xperia ZL? :confused:

On Xperia Z works great :fingers-crossed:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53003537&postcount=1061

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53011694&postcount=1066
[Sony Xperia ZL] coolrevi:
Everytime black screen after lockscreen.

Gyroscope completely messed up after 101 and still persists in 230 (not able to use photospere in new google camera bcos of this problem cos i never aligns) (Really pissed off with this problem. if there is any fix please help me.

CM 11 nightlies are way better than this rom for daily usage.
[Sony Xperia ZL] zcop:
Camera now worse than 4.1

Image is blur or something like compression or aggressive noise reduction.

Now picture is less detail than ever

Or i dont know how to setup camera :D
[Sony Xperia ZL] pedro5148:
Is anyone else having problems with the sound?

when I'm listening to music and looking at anything else, the music gets lags ... like a scratched CD
[Sony Xperia ZL] deidfling:
Yes me too, and this is more frequently when I get whatsapp messages....
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
Battery drain is ridiculous.... Status bar lags. Even the KK logo lags when i hit android version a couple of times in the about phone menu section. Why is this called an upgrade again??
[Sony Xperia ZL] dmeerpa:
Sound lag is due to activating GPU acceleration

On my phone the GUI lags are gone after a couple of time and reboots

battery drain, is due to wake locks caused by the Google location service. This problem also occurs on the Google Nexus 5. So its more related to KitKat and Google Play service then to the Sony firmware. So I don't think we will see a fix any soon.
[Sony Xperia ZL] JetOoi:
So you recommend to keep GPU disabled and let time cure the lag that reported by most users? I yet to receive update so I can't try it myself yet. Thanks
[Sony Xperia ZL] RyomaEchizen:
I tried

Works like a charm!! :D

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[Sony Xperia ZL] kobolt99:
What performance improvement have you noticed after doing it?

Regards
[Sony Xperia ZL] cwoodffr:
Can someone tell me how to get rid of this?

I normally run the Timely clock on my lock screen. Since upgrading to either 4.4 or the walkman app in the last few days this media widget has shown up and I can't get rid of it. When I wake the screen to the lock screen it is there. I can swipe to the Timely clock but I want the clock to be the default. If you touch and hold it won't go into delete mode on this widget.
[Sony Xperia ZL] marcelsm:
Hi, so i'm having a bug too, but it's with the system clock, the widget and the lockscreen clock are working fine, but the notification bar clock doesn't update, i think that my alarm it's not working because of this bug too.
[Sony Xperia ZL] Adilson Casula:
Here's working normal.

just slide the widget to the side and show clock, slide it once again and i can add another widget
[Sony Xperia ZL] daztd94:
I just downgraded back to 4.3 since the battery was draining fast(did the recommended adjustments but didn't help too much) and the phone restarting bootloop. Very happy with 4.3 for now
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
Probably be doing the same.
[Sony Xperia ZL] abdullah.darwish:
Could you please tell me how did you root your ZL ?
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
follow this thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2768000
[Sony Xperia ZL] doclloyd:
Group messages (MMS threads)

Has anyone noticed any issues with group messaging that's done via MMS? I send a message to 2 people which is converted to MMS, but then the outgoing message also shows up in that person's individual thread. And replies from the other users are showing up in their individual thread instead of the group message I started. For what it's worth, I know one guy in the group thread uses an iPhone.

This was working OK when I was using Hangouts for SMS. I removed the group thread thinking that was part of the issue, but now I'm not sure if it's a bug in Sony's messaging app.
[Sony Xperia ZL] Adilson Casula:
Here some opened aplications after reboot

If i kill them, in some minutes it is running again

- 4 shared is not sync

- Touchpall is deactivated

- I have too, not on the image, Xperia extension for throw aways runing on background. I dont use it, neither nfc, Bluetooth or GPS
[Sony Xperia ZL] Ben Ling:
New update :)
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
I'm so happy to see this.

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[Sony Xperia ZL] Adilson Casula:
let's go see if it works

i was happy when announced the first time
[Sony Xperia ZL] sturmtruppler:
New update seems to be a bugfix...:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/06/0...33-certified-for-xperia-z-zl-zr-and-tablet-z/
[Sony Xperia ZL] felcocs:
.230

Got it here in Brazil for Xperia ZL(C6503). But it is the same as for the Generic US Journalist and Commercial Version. It's lagging in Settings. I did a SUS Update and did a full wipe, didn't tried to keep the data from 4.3... but that didn't helped the above bug. I hope that the .233 will fix this.

Oh yes, about the battery I didn't notice the battery draining fast. In fact it's seens to be giving a good bat life as I didn't turned on the Stamina(I always are in Stamina mode at 4.3) and it it's not below 75%, the phone is Up for about 16 hours(I think) and was more than 75% of battery.

Can't post the image link: i snag gy / 6IkbT.jpg

Edit: Until now the phone didn't get to the charger, still got 40% of battery. It's seems the same or better than 4.3... as I'm not using Stamina actually it's better than 4.3. 1d 17h.

i snag gy / tGSJl.jpg
[Sony Xperia ZL] t3ddy2003:
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basically stamina mode will extend your battery life in your case its different, good for you then. =)

230 made us laboratory rats. hehehe
[Sony Xperia ZL] kobolt99:
There's an update for Google Play Services, but it seems no to fix the battery draim issue :(.

Some user report no to have this issue with c6503, may I flash it and avoid this with my c6506? Coul someone confirm?

I'm tired of this :(
[Sony Xperia ZL] doclloyd:
The update did just come out today. It may take some time and/or a reboot to start noticing any benefits of the new GPS 5.0 APK.

Today, I had uninstalled GPS so it went back to stock, updated back to 4.4.52 then manually installed 5.0.77 (link available at androidpolice.com). At least for the last couple hours, Play Services isn't the primary battery eater, but other stuff like voice calls and apps I'm actually using. But we shall see...
[Sony Xperia ZL] thelastredshirt:
I installed 5.0.77 last night and almost 24 hours later, the battery's pretty good. Usually even after clearing datain 4.4.52, the wakelock battery drain will be significant about 12 hours later. After about 8 hours, battery is 70% from normal usage. On 4.4.52, it was somewhere below 40%.
[Sony Xperia ZL] gigacats:
For some of you who plagued by battery drain bug try perform number of restart everytime Google service eat your battery. In my case, it become better and better after several restart
[Sony Xperia ZL] supaflyx3:
Updated to Google Play Services 5 and no more wakelocks, doesn't even appear in the battery usage anymore.
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
How do you update to play services 5? All I get is the 4.4.52 version
[Sony Xperia ZL] Gustavo RD78:
Google Play services 5.0.82 (1253724-038)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/4nxfxkygt00jpd5/Google Play services 5.0.82 (1253724-038).apk

Sent from my Xperia ZL-78Kernel
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
You are the best. Thanks.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
Battery drain...

I already did a clean installation, disable the location options and installed the GPS 5.0 but still have a big battery drain. Someone have some others tips to give?

Regards
[Sony Xperia ZL] RyomaEchizen:
Thanks! :)

Where you find it?

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[Sony Xperia ZL] supaflyx3:
Install the newest play services that was linked last page.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
I have it, the GPS I said before is the Google Play Service.

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[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
Still getting battery drain. Battery usage says google services is eating at 47% of my battery even with location off. :mad:
[Sony Xperia ZL] supaflyx3:
Wakelock is back with 5.0.82 :(
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
Apparently yes. Have gone back to previous version of play services, hang outs, youtube and maps.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
Here I don't have wakelock, but my battery is going too fast.
[Sony Xperia ZL] kobolt99:
After installing the new google play services app, I did a battery calibration and the battery was ok. Today I woke up and realized that the battery was drained :(

Is this a general issues? I mean, it happens with other devices running 4.4.2? This is so disappointing.
[Sony Xperia ZL] dmeerpa:
I installed yesterday Google Play services 5.0.84 (1259630-070).

Download From Zippyshare

Today after 5 hours of little use and without stamina-modus, I lost only 15% battery. (22% is used by Google Play-servce).

And this with location accuracy on maximum, my Xperia and Backup of my data active.

I hope it keeps that way ...
[Sony Xperia ZL] CharlesG70:
What versions are you using of GPS, as well as the other GAPPS

thanks,

C
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
Link not working....
[Sony Xperia ZL] dmeerpa:
default 10.5.A.0.230 firmware, rooted, unlocked bootloader

+ Google Now Launcher v1.1.0.1227934

+ latest GAPPS available in Google Play Store except for Google play Service

sorry, corrected
[Sony Xperia ZL] BlackFriar:
I too have had good luck (thus far) with GPServices 5.0.84. I hazard even commenting as it seems every time I do, within a few hours something ticks off my wakelock...

EDIT: Nevermind. First time Google Play updated an app the wakelock problem came back
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
Works great so far. This forum is awesome.
[Sony Xperia ZL] dmeerpa:
After using GPServices 5.0.84 for about 36 hours now, I didn't get any wakelock.

And yes I got a least 6 apps that updated through Google Play since using GPServices 5.0.84.

Yesterday was the first time since I have 10.5.A.0.230 that I did a hole day without recharging and the location service at maximum precision.

Phone is using about 4%/h (20% by GPServices) without the stamina mode and location service at maximum precision. Thats about the same as I got with 10.4.1.B.0.101.
[Sony Xperia ZL] faumijk:
KitKat sucks the battery

I am also unhappy with the latest KitKat update for xperia zl. KitKat just sucks out the battery faster....I wish I never had upgraded to KitKat.....original android 4.1.2 was best as I went on updating, the battery life went on decreasing.

I want to downgrade to jelly bean. Because KitKat sucks.
[Sony Xperia ZL] dmeerpa:
Search a TFT of the original android 4.1.2 for your model and flash it with Flashtool and you are back on jelly bean, that simpel ;)
[Sony Xperia ZL] zstann:
poor battery life and phone is even more lagging now. this update is really sad. no solutions besides flashing the phone?
[Sony Xperia ZL] Dead Metal:
Now everything lags, not just the settings and the notification, but everything.

I used Xposed to stop the Google services Wakelocks, but now the media server has decided to drain 76% of battery during screen off.

Awful.
[Sony Xperia ZL] mr_esmit:
Everything back to normal after the Google services update, but phone gets hot when charging. Anybody having the same problem?
[Sony Xperia ZL] scifan:
So... I decided to give it another go with 230...

I wiped and started from scratch... I am running the black deodexed version so it's possible that's playing a part in what I see...

I get spontaneous reboots after approximatley 48 hours of uptime. (It only seems to boot once, but it's done it twice now...)

When listening to audio via bluetooth, I get distortion/noise whenever a notification happens... (even when the phone should be "silent" I get noise whenever I receive an e-mail, text message, etc... note that the noise isn't the notification sound.)

I think those are my main complaints...

I tend to wonder if the "fixes" in 233 would address these issues... the one that bothers me the most is the spontaneous reboot...
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
those who are facing issues with 4.4.2, flash Indian FTF. No lags or errors.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
Seriously?!
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
yup. no lags anywhere. battery backup is still a issue. but better than other FTF s which i've tried.
[Sony Xperia ZL] cnkhanh:
I dont think a different ftf would make any differences, because the only things vary between them are bloatwares and baseband.... right?
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
True. But try it. You'll see a difference.
[Sony Xperia ZL] don_yogesh:
Too much lagging

I recently updated the OS to kitkat(Indian Version).... and I am really disappointed.. It is really lagging...:crying::crying:

jellybean 4.3 was really fast... I dont know why I updated the OS ,...:confused::confused::confused:

Without the quick-settings section i don't see any new feature in kitkat....:(:(:(:(

Sometime I receive or call the phone , I don't get any voice from speaker, I need to restart the phone.

is there any way to go back to 4.3 jellybean... If any know then please post the links

Thanks
[Sony Xperia ZL] CHaPoCA:
It's easy. Just flash the 4.3 ftf with flash tool and be happy.
[Sony Xperia ZL] anagramgenius:
Indian version doesn't lag:rolleyes:. make sure you factory reset your phone.

And if you want to go back to jelly bean, flash this FTF using Androxyde's Flash Tool http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2655100. thanks to [MENTION=1850242]sanjulgupta[/MENTION]
[Sony Xperia ZL] givemered:
Upgraded to Kitkat

Just decided finally to take the plunge(India ZL user). Upraded to Kitkat today.

Process was smooth enough. For the time being atleast, I dont see any battery drain from google services. Will post the update afterwards.

In fact battery life seems little better than earlier. But I disable all location services and enable it only when needed. Google now is on, but location based features are not working because of this. But thats the same I used to have in JB.

Notification bar is jittery, but thats ok. When you pull it down, animation is jerky and not smooth like it was in JB. But I can handle that. No major issue there.

Settings panel is ok as well, I dont see any difference.

For those facing battery drain, try disabeling location completely(no device only or anything) and see if this solves the issue. You would only lose google now location based cards with this, as per my understanding.
[Sony Xperia ZL] givemered:
Battery life update for kitkat

I am also now victim of the dreaded google services battery drain issue :(

However, I found a workaround. From various posts, I thought that problem is only if one needs access to location constantly. At few places, people also mentioned that 'device only' mode or 'location off' resolves the problem. I did not get anywhere exact behavior and proper explanation of the problem. So I am trying to explain it here.

I kept the location off initially, and there was no battery drain, in fact battery life was much better than the JB.

However, I started google maps once and enabled high accuracy location once and then after that, my phone was not able to sleep. As you can see from the screenshot, after the short gps activity bar, phone is awake for all the time for next 3-4 hours.

When phone was all the time awake after that, I tried different things like location - device only mode, disabling location and making location on and off multiple times. Nothing helped, phone was constantly awake and battery was draining fast.

After this, I restarted my phone(you can see vertical line break in the screenshot) with location off. After the restart however, phone could go into sleep and no more awake(please refer screenshot). Problem solved!

So my conclusion is, when facing battery drain, turn off location and restart device. This would solve the problem. Note that 'only' turning off location does NOT resolve this problem. You need phone restart after disabling location.

Kitkat as such is stable but once you start location/gps, phone would never sleep until you restart.

For me this workaround is acceptable as I use GPS once in a while only. And use maps only once in a while for navigation. So if you want to go to kitkat, see if you can compromise on GPS use. Else JB is your best option right now. Third option is to disable google services which is the worst option in my opinion.

Advantages of Kitkat is, it has very good battery life mostly because of batching of data transfers. I would say around 10-15% SOT increase.

Hope this helps at least a few people who are confused about upgrading to kitkat.
[Sony Xperia ZL] cnkhanh:
My status bar clock isnt updating, only when I turn of the screen and turn jt back on does it update.

Therefore the alarm doesnt go off as well :(
[Sony Xperia ZL] zstann:
Hello people. I have tried all the various methods that Sony and the internet has offered on how to fix the battery drainage and i've finally found my fix!

Under location -> mode, change to Device only. The battery drain has noticeably disappeared instantly and now my phone can last for more than 12 hours on a single charge for moderate use. Previously the battery was draining 10% every freaking hour even on full standby. If you have noticed, activating high accuracy and battery saving mode will prompt on pop up saying that collection of location data may occur even when NO apps are running. Probably the biggest culprit here.

Now even on 3G, the battery drain only a few % after being left idle for the night (with stamina mode enabled).

Hope this helps.
[Sony Xperia ZL] cristianleguiz:
Yes thats a solution. Whit device only you restricted Google to give your location only when the device asks. Not all the time. Battery life and functionality
[Sony Xperia ZL] Phantom1275:
Those were exactly my conclusions too.

I did disabled backup and interest-based adds as shown in Sony workaround for this issue. But still my ZL was kept active/alive by Google Services.

Disabling location services and rebooting the phone did the trick. In fact, after rebooting you can even re-enable location services. It won't drain the battery... until you activate it (e.g. a program like Maps or Chrome tries to locate your phone using wifi, GPS or cell signal). Bang! The phone is active all the time now. Disabling location services won't stop it, you have to do this and reboot.