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[Other SmartWatches] Apokriphos:
Without a doubt, the Inwatch Z requires extensive tweaking to reach the functionality you describe. This forces most users to have some skill in rooting, removing and adjusting default apps and values to maximize battery life for what each user is looking for.

I use my watch as a bluetooth companion. To this end, I routinely get 5-7 days of moderate use with bluetooth always on. I only use my watch to respond to texts, see calls, texts, and notifications from associated apps. Rarely I use bluetooth tethered internet for Google Now to take reminders while my phone is operating as a gps. I use the side button to wake the screen when I want access to the clock, and I use a custom watchface available through SWApp. It isn't yet ideal, but I am satisfied at the moment with what the Inwatch can do.

As I explored in previous posts, you can downclock 1 core to 520 mHz and turn off the second core, and enable shake to wake (not the 4.4 default app, but Shake App) - should you want the Inwatch to behave more like a typical Android Wear. When using it, I usually allow for 3 motions, vertical shake to wake, horizontal shake - google now, and forward motion left as situation dependent. Even with my battery optimized changes, typical battery life will drop from 5-7 days to 1.5-2. That choice is up to you.

Feel free to post your questions here, and we will do our best to help you.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
We are very interested in this kind of design. The new chips by Broadcom and Qualcom will make things like this much more possible (someone mentioned wireless charging, one chip includes this). We are looking at what is next for the R&D team, lots of possibilities... :)

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Hey Kewteacher,

I just wanted to stop in and address some of the experiences you have had with Z so far, as I do know that we are still in a growth stage and the customer experience is not up to standards yet.

You are correct, inWatch does not currently have the resources to get back to all inquiries in a timely manner. The company has historically sold only in China so their support is also in Chinese. The process of launching in America and Europe is going slowly and part of that process is setting up repair facilities and customer support centers. It will get done, please be patient.

On to usability issues. The 4.2 OS that shipped on Z was not adequate for the western market. No play store out of the box and certain chinese services being used made for a difficult user experience to say the least. Apologies for that, these units were never supposed to be sold outside of China. Of course, with a global marketplace, goods have a life of their own and this happened anyway. So there are some users like yourself that purchased a device that was simply not meant for you. These are still great pieces of hardware but the software needs some help. The people here are SUPER helpful so you are in the right place but what I know you REALLY want to hear is WHEN THE HELL IS 4.4 GOING TO RELEASE?! OK on to that.

We are running the first batch of 3G Z off the factory line between now and April 15th. We are busily making fixes to the kitkat build, incorporating Fleksy, trying to get interactive notifications done and in general, making sure that the internationalization is complete, play store and all. Once this is ready, we will push the new OS to all Z users, our first OTA update (EXCITING!) That will be the moment that Z finally takes a strong step into the US market.

Z3G will ship near to the end of April if all goes well. As I said, existing users will get new software and at that time, we will make support and repair services available as well. This has been a HUGE endeavor to get to this stage. Many issues and roadblocks surmounted on the way and while we know there are to be many more, we are exceedingly proud of Z3G and the 4.4 OS and we think you will all love it as well.

Hope this helps man, I am trying to be in many places at once these days but I will ALWAYS come back here and tell you what it looks like from our side.

Sam

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Battery optimization! YES! We want to do this for you! Will someone compile the ask in a way I can communicate what we need to do to the coding team? We dont have much time but this is a big one and something I know we will benefit greatly from as long as we implement a change as you guys describe it. So what is the fix you want coded in?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Yes Sam, that was the question. The problem is the Z does not display the correct batterylevel, but not all users have this problem. For instance mine dies when 86% is indicated. It runs down from 86% to 1% in about 10 minutes (without doing something, the watch is in deep sleep when this happens). I have KitKat installed.
[Other SmartWatches] swerwqas:
hi inWatchUSA

i bought new in watch z . i need more than few splash resistance while washing hands .some owners confirmed they use watch while washing hands but i want clear example.can you give confirm same water resistance ip54 rating splash level. below video for 2g inwatch z.i like my watch but water and no warranty make my mind bad.i may sell even because of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IrFU4jKOmzY

skip to 50 seconds
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
This is one of our promo shots:

http://postimg.org/image/or2fbw3fr/

This shows Z covered in mist which should be no problem. Same sort of thing as washing your hands. If you are in medicine or wash far up your wrists when you wash, may as well take Z off just to make that easier. Normal hand washing should be fine.
[Other SmartWatches] swerwqas:
thanks. so arent holes on both sides problem for water resistance?

and i have a idea if possible .little Bluetooth Headset accessory that attachs watchs band.all in one...it will be good.

On your fb page 3g version will have always on watch feature.why 2g dont get this feature.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Sadly, almost all of them are like that.

Good to hear. I stopped of my own smartwatch project due to not having the million dollar buy in with the ODMs. For now I'm back working on traditional watch projects, which is where I pull my design principles from. Hope to see something that grabs my interest.

As always, feel free to pick my brain.
[Other SmartWatches] far2shok:
electric stub

I need electrik stub from watch to speaker and vibrating motor. Can anybody help me to buy this spare part?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I'm afraid that's not possible at this moment. InWatch is rolling out in the USA, Europe and Russia at this moment and planned to get ready around 1st half of April. Then there should be possibilities for repair and service (remember your watch is meant to be in China). And maybe Sam of InWatch USA can help you.
[Other SmartWatches] far2shok:
Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Any plans on 320x320 screen?

Dear inWatchUSA! Have your company any plans on releasing a version of the subj with high resolution screen (320x320 or something near it)?

240x240 at 1.63" gives us 208 ppi which isn't bad but isn't very good on such a small screen.

Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Don't you think this will be the cause off battery-lifetime dropping below an acceptable level? This is certainly not on my wishlist.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Obviously it will take same extra battery power. But I am sure that will not be critical anyway. And do not forget a bunch of smart watches which are already using such displays (including 3rd generation of Umeox watches BTW).
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Battery-lifetime IS critical, that's what makes the Z such an outstanding smartwatch. This is not my first smartwatch, others I either gave away or they landed in the trashbin. Looking at the specs of the Umeox I doubt it will give me more than 1 day of moderate usage, despite its larger battery.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Wow, wow, wow! :) I didn't mean that! I meant the extra battery consumption will not be critical compared with present level.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
InWatch 3GZ got FCC ID!

Just found it:

2AD6NA180 by Shenzhen inWatch technology Co., Ltd for inWatch Z

Is it yours, inWatchUSA? ;)
[Other SmartWatches] ThePurpleK:
I don't see Mr Force's name on there. However, InWatch appear to be filing this directly. It does state however, "This filing is only applicable for US operations." Therefore, I assume that given the nature of the US team's partnership, InWatch have filed on their behalf.
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
broken links

Any chance you can repost these files? Links are not found. Thanks!
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
Is it possible to root this thing
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Yes, with Kingoroot.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Hi guys! Been a while! Have some good news!

Hi everyone, sorry I have been scarce around this forum of late. Yes, that is our FCC filing, done by the main office, as you suspected. And now, let me show you our first official speed test with 3G in a consumer environment!

https://youtu.be/ZDcJanQEiy4

I will be doing a walkthrough of the OS as well as a small audio sample later today. Do you have anything you would like me make a video of for you guys?
[Other SmartWatches] ThePurpleK:
Awesome! One thing I'm really looking forward to use is Bluetooth tethering - how reliable and fast is it?
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
That is one area I have been having trouble with, at least in the iPhone camp (sorry apple users!). Our inClub app is not able to pair reliably with the apple protocal although it works about half the time, not enough to offer that as a true option.

Android pairing is next to nail down, it should be less problematic but Z will always work best as a stand alone device. The bluetooth radio functions in master mode and for real companion action, we would need to have slave mode as well. I will keep you all updated on our progress.
[Other SmartWatches] ThePurpleK:
Thanks for the honest update! I'm mainly looking forward to tethering from my phone so it would be more of a companion and Android Wear is pretty much out of the question with its inability to type on sideloaded apps.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Anyone know the name of a kodi/xbmc skin for tiny screens like this?

Would be good to be able to use kodi but with the skins they have its basically impossible to use on inwatch z
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
I have a situation where the back plate has come off my Inwatch Z. Can anyone recommend what glue to use to stick it back on?
[Other SmartWatches] Parcaetron:
Mr. Force, would it be possible for you to upload your rom so that we can use it to fix the battery display problem?
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
We are still putting the final touches on 4.4 so we are not releasing anything yet. Believe me, you here will be the first to know. In the meantime, how about a teaser of KitKat on 3GZ?

https://youtu.be/Z5Ld4v2wJMI

Enjoy and feel free to ask questions!
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
I guys,

I received this week my new inWacht Z, from DX (China).

It came with the version M2_V04 without Goggle Play services.

Can you please send me a link to download the International firmware with the Goggle Play services working?

Thanks for your help.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
Is there any recovery?
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
So this is one of the reasons we did not continue with the ceramic backplate other than the added thickness (a bit less than 1mm). Here is what I suggest and also by the way, I am a bit of an adhesive nerd, love all kinds of weird glues, epoxies and chemical bonds. It started with RC aircraft, then aquarium making, now I am learning about industrial goos of various kinds just for fun. I digress...

Get yourself some UHU Creative if you are in the USA, UHU POR overseas. http://www.amazon.com/UHU-POR-Styrofoam-adhesive-tube/dp/B000LKOC1M This stuff. It is made for poly foam and it acts like rubber cement. But, unlike rubber cement, it is strong as rhino balls and will never let go.

Coat the plate and the watch with as thin as possible a layer and then wait until they are both dry. Line it up and stick it down. You will never have this thing fall off again, or move at all for that matter.

Hope this works, it is my best suggestion and I know me some glues! :)
[Other SmartWatches] ThePurpleK:
- Sam Force, 2015

When you become famous, this will be in the first page of your biography. :P
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Well this is definitely a first - a Glue-Nerd. I will take your advice and buy some - hope you are as much of a glue scholar as you say you are buddy!! LOL thanks
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Can anybody help me, with this?

I`m new in this forum, and I read all this pages, but the links to download the firmware don`t work any more.

Please ;)

Hello,

Today I update my inWacht Z with the new Android 4.4.2, with the help of the friend Theo de Kok, how all the time support me ;)

I only have a few problem:

-When I star my watch, it ask me for the pin number of the Sim card, but I only can see half of the Keyboard, and don`t be able to unlock my Sim, like the attach photo.

There are anybody, how this happen?

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
[MENTION=5891605]inWatchUSA[/MENTION], I like your inWatch X3G very much.

Can you give reliable information on it's usability for European 2G/3G carriers?

Thanks!

P.S. Not to mention all wristsmartphone geeks are waiting for extensive presentaion of that new model. =)
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
By the way

Couple of questions on X3G model.

1. Is it equipped with bone conducting speaker?

2. Does it have NFC?

3. Does it boost Miracast or similar technology?

Thanks!

P.S. Speaking frankly, it will be just great for us to see full detailed specs of inWatch X3G without any strange lines like "Open SIM Network" (what's that?) and enigmatic "Gorilla Glass" (what version?) as it stated here for now. :)
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
Anyway to install Google play without rooting:confused:
[Other SmartWatches] Kateremir:
i have the same Problem and no solution. Therefore i took the simcard in another phone and deactivated the pinlock:(
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Dear ndemon,

I try with several applications (Goggle Services; Goggle Play store, etc), but with no luck.

You must root (with Kingo) and install a new ROM with all the staff.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
So there is no way I could do this without flashing
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Do you have a reason you want to stick to this version and not to root your Z?
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
I can root but I'm scared that I might brick it if I flash firmware
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
mate you cant have it both ways. you take the risk to unleash the benefits
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
TWRP link is down:eek:

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Fine. But the TWRP link is down.

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oh and by the way I rooted so... is there any way to install gapps without TWRP
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
How would I modify the install recovery script?

And how would I push the su binary

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do you have a link to this version of kingo
[Other SmartWatches] Kateremir:
Sorry, i dont remember, use Google
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
New Firmaware update

I update my inWatch Z, with the Android 4.4.2 (my old version are M2_V04 / Android 4.2.2), and after the update, I see some bugs/ problems:

- The pin numbers of the unlock SIM card, don`t see half of then, when I star the watch;

- The sound of an answer call, I don`t hear, because the button (see attach photo), is Off by default, and it need to touch it, to turn on the sound (bone conduction SPK), every time I answer a call;

- The photos of my contacts, who I have in the last firmware (Android 4.2.2), now are not visible, with this new firmware (Android 4.4.2);

Any of you, who update with this new firmware, have this problems?

And, anybody fix it?

Thanks and regards.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
That button you mentioned switches the loudspeaking function on/off. You should be able to hear incoming calls by pressing the bone conduction speaker to your head. Change the volume level if you can't hear it. I assume you do not have paired a bluetooth headset.

The simcard, can't you unlock it permanently? The watch is always on your wrist (at least mine).

The photos I don't know, never use any.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Dear Theo,

Yes, I ear the conversation if I put On the Loudspeaker, but in the last firmware this are always On by default, when I make a phone conversation. Now it was Off, and to ear, I have to turn it On, every time I have to talk :(

The photos, that I say, are the photos associated to the contacts.

Regards.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Looking around for other wrist smartphones, seeing the usual buggy unsopported gizmos, returning to wait for news about inWatch Z3G... :rolleyes:
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
Lock screen App

Hi, could someone share the Lock screen (digital clock) from the 4.2.2?

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I want a Digital clock but new lock screen has only "analog"s
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
I have a couple of issue:

1) This battery thing really gets to me!! i never know when this watch is gonna just shut down!! i have tried the calibration thing like a million times but it still seems to shut down at 80 or 70 or 60 or 50 - never know which one on a day to day

2) I would like to download new faces - is this possible? is there an app? is there a website i can go to?

thanks in advance
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
I found for me if watch is turned off for a long time with 0% battery, after that it shows a real charge of battery .
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Well thaaaats great… so to find out the real charge for my battery, I have to

1) wait for it to switch off

2) wait ages

3) charge it again

LoL… are u joking or serious?
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
It works for me I don't know is this magic or something else.

My watch has lain about 2w.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
OK, I'm here to deliver some much needed updates!

First:

SHIPPING ANNOUNCEMENT!

We will be shipping inWatch Z 3G to preorder customers starting at the end of June, retail customers by the end of July.

Second (and perhaps most interesting to those in this forum):

We will be releasing our first OTA update for inWatch Z 2G! Android 4.4 Kitkat, play store and in general a better experience and more features all around. We are still putting the last bugs to bed but expect another announcement soon on this with a date.

Third:

Check out our Z3G speed test, OS preview, sound test and awesome new pics!

Speed test:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZDcJanQEiy4&feature=youtu.be

OS sneak peak:

https://youtu.be/Z5Ld4v2wJMI

Sound Test:

https://youtu.be/NrIbkgsLZ6Q and http://youtu.be/watauWh9AOQ

Photos:

https://www.facebook.com/inWatchUSA/posts/772913062815534

Enjoy everyone and hit me up with questions!
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Will this OTA still work, now that most of us, at least in this forum, have updated to KitKat and TWRP?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Today the strap of my Z is broken while wearing it. No excesive force on it, it simply broke into 2 pieces. Since it's not replacable, this means the end of my Z?
[Other SmartWatches] Apokriphos:
Ugh, that's horrible. I'm sorry to hear that your strap broke. Can you post pictures of where the fracture was? Perhaps it is a fixable break.

I am very excited about the pending release of the Inwatch Z 3G. My 2G battery life has been astounding thus far (7 months into ownership). I wear my 2G version every day, used mostly as a Bluetooth Notifier with SWapp.

Questions:

Will there be official support for bluetooth notification mode in the 3G version?

How will the new version with similar specs impact battery life?

What are your test models getting?

Is this with the shake to wake function enabled?

Is there a new version that is better battery optimized?

My only current issue with my 2G is with shake to wake disabled, convenience is definitely impacted. I would prefer it on, but the battery life tradeoff (at 533 mhz) is too bad for me to justify.

Repairs: As poor Theo has experienced, there are some difficulties with the earlier 2G version that occur naturally due to wear and tear.

Will InwatchUSA provide repairs at a cost for older models along with warranty support (I assume) for 3G models?

Please let us know, excited to hear more.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I glued the two parts together with a very strong glue. Much to my suprise so far it holds and everything functions as usual.

But I doubt this will last very long.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
My issue is that the bloody wrist band keeps popping open. All I have to do is tense my arms or turn the steering wheel in my car and it pops off. Any solution to this?
[Other SmartWatches] crystalsrt:
found it on Amazon

i found it on Amazon , you can search "inwatch" on Amazon

but few people bought it and i think they are too expensive
[Other SmartWatches] coopersimith:
I find there also exsit cheap price inwatch on Amazon, just cost $79, and $70 at tinydeal. :p
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
The topic is about inWatch Z. You've found inWatch Pi. That's absolutely different device.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Yes, and the InWatch Pi is so cheap because it's absolutly useless outside of China.
[Other SmartWatches] coopersimith:
Better to get a MOTO 360 earlier, that is what a watch shold be like.

Of couse they are different! But still too much difference in both function and price.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Sony just released new excellent photocamera. My aunt has very funny dog.

But this topic is about inWatch Z, isn't it? ;)
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Sorry that happened Theo!

We will be setting up repair services for certain cases, still not sure how we will handle a broken strap. Likely that unit will be repairable, but the cost of the repair would need to include so many new components, it may be expensive. A new Z3G may be more cost effective, up to you. I will keep you up to date on the process setup and costs of parts.

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As is usually the case, you here in this forum are pushing the limits of what the device can do. Because of that, we may just need to elicit your help in testing some of these things. What I will say is we would never dream of punishing users for rooting Z by locking them out of future improvements. We will get you folks sorted, count on it.

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Yes, there sure is. On the clasp, look at the hinge nearest to the speaker, on the metal arm that bridges the gap. You will notice on the center of the connection to the hinge, a small 90 degree bend and tab exists. This is the part that clicks onto a metal area on the farthest part of that metal clasp, over the peg for choosing the band size. Just close it and watch where that little tab contacts.

OK. Now what you want to do is just bend that little tab with a small screwdriver or tool (be careful, of course). Just a tiny bit will do it, too much and it will not close or worse yet, you will damage that little tab. If that happens you will be waiting with Theo for the repair shop to be up on the site.

Good luck!
[Other SmartWatches] coopersimith:
Then I was supposed to say Thanks for reminding me about this to you. Well, thank you!