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[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
That 5V between 1 and 5 looks like magic. pin 5 should be not connected.

Pin 1 seems to be the 5V pin and pin 4 the GND pin. An ipad charger should be the same as an USB charger, so how come that 5V between 1 and 5? Check this again please, this seems not correct.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
i got nearly the same thing -5.06
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I opened my charging clip (can't use my Z anyway) and much to my surprise their usage of the pins is not standard. Luckily there was text inside, reading:

VCHG D- D+ blank GND.

So your reading of 5V between pins 1 and 5 is correct. This means your Z should charge! All you can do is try to clean the 5 contact points in the wristband. If this doesn't help, your Z is defect. Or the 5V is not stable. To rule this out you can attach 2 short pieces of thin, unisolated copper wire to pins 1 and 5, so that you can read the voltage on these 2 pins while the Z is connected. If the reading is still 5V and your Z is not charging, there is definitely something wrong with your Z.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
also my watch heats up while its plugged in which seems weird since its not charging
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
This means your watch should be repaired. The question is how? Mailing InWatch China is of no use, they will not respond to emails outside of China (their service-people don't speak English). I used my reseller (Chinavasion) to contact them. I don't know where you bought your watch, try if they will do this. You should still have warranty. But if this succeeds your watch will be on it's way for some 10 weeks.

Sam Force of InWatchUSA promised to do some repairs (if he can). You can try to email him, but I got no reply on my last 2 emails.

You can also wait. Later this month the new 3G Z should be released, together with some possibilities for service. But I don't think this is all very sure.

My Z lies in the drawer and I will not use it anymore. I could have a repair, but "physical damage" is not part of the warranty and I refuse to pay InWatch for repairing their own mistakes.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
any news on a lolipop rom for this watch? custom or otherwise?
[Other SmartWatches] Kateremir:
i dont think, they will rollout a lollipop update. until today, they are not been able to roll out a official kitkat update
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
the main inwatch dude told us they will be rolling out lollipop to the watch. he didnt say when though...
[Other SmartWatches] plexiora:
Is there any adverse affect to run this device on one core instead of two; in an effort to increase battery? I have the inwatch Z V.04. I have been through the process and learnig curve of having to reflash my device, thanks to the wealth of advice and knowledge found in this forum. Currently running a live wallpaper called BGClock Live WallPaper found on the playstore free and Smart launcher Pro. Gapps installed via 4.2.1 MMSD GAPPS and I am begining to notice a small and welcome comparison to my Nexus 5 and Nexus 7. On a sadder note; My ZGPAX S8 broke before I could digest enough knowledge and forestall my growing frustrations. I have paired inwatch Z to a bluetooth headset; which is now the eletronic part of my uniform at work. Back to the CPU core question. Can we run the Inwatch Z on One core YES/NO

Not postetd for a very long time. I hope I have not crossed any boundaries I should not.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
To me not really a yes or no question… try it and see right?
[Other SmartWatches] plexiora:
Thanks for the reply NK33. I have CPU tuner runinng on my device and have reduced the CPU speeds across all profiles to 568 Mhz for both cores enabling CPU tuner from the settings thereby giving slight performance gain

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When are trying to switch to 1 core the message reads switching off CPUs is known to cause problems with some kernels doing this might save battery but can crash your device
[Other SmartWatches] RetroHobo:
Can someone repost the twrp recovery link? The current one in broken.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Bluetooth Headset problem

I buy a Plantronics M70, to pair with my inWatch.

The pairing connects fine, but I have a problem, when I make call, I don`t ear any sound.

I tested the Headset and works fine in other devices.

This happens to anybody of this forum?

Thanks for your help,
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I have a Plantronics M55 and I can't remember having problems with it. I'm sure it worked playing videos, but I'm not sure I tested it making calls.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Dear Theo,

This is very estrange, because I ear the bips when I make a call, but don`t ear the person who tall to me, with this Headset.

Maybe this model (M70) is note compatible, or a bug in this firmware of inWatch?

Thanks.
[Other SmartWatches] ecsk2:
I did a factory reset of my watch with INWATCH_Z_M2_V04 but now can't seem to find how to get English back on it, anyone have advice?
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
Should i get this same watch from chinavasion after having my z break :crying::crying::crying: or can anyone recommend an alternative :fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Well, as you should know I'm not very positive about the Z, but I think if you want to buy a new one, order the new Z 3G at InwatchUSA. Their warranty looks to be better. And consider this one: www.chinavasion.com/cfy5-WearableDevices/. Much cheaper and looks to be better. But I have no experience with this one.
[Other SmartWatches] matt126:
Update to firmware

Hi I just wondered if you had an update to android 4.4.2 as I'm running 4.2 at the moment and it would really help me out?

Matt
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Huh?

Are there any news about shipments of inWatch Z 3G?

All silence around the project becomes frusrating...
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
The planning was end of june. They still have another day or so.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Having a second look, there was no year mentioned.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Hey! Some sudden activity here!

https://www.facebook.com/inWatchUSA/posts/798695540237286
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I guess it's you asking this question about the strap. Can you please post it here if you receive an answer?
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Yes, it was me.

No problem. Will post here on update.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Thanks, I'm quite anxious to see the answer. So far, nobody replied to me they recognize the problem. So I don't think it will be resolved in the Z 3G. I can assure you there were no stresses involved whatsoever, I know perfectly well you can't bend these straps. It broke 3 times anyway. I think a $300 (now $200) watch should last somewhat longer than 8 months.
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
They told "yes":

And yet another point:

https://www.facebook.com/inWatchUSA/posts/798695540237286

For all mobile gods sake, let it be true! :fingers-crossed:
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
If this is true, why do they refuse to repair this strap using warranty? They keep telling it's my own fault and I have to pay €45 for the repair. So I doubt if this is true, but told because they don't want to scare off new customers.
[Other SmartWatches] Kateremir:
Because my broken strap (repaired with glue) und now my broken charging clip i bought another watch. inwatch is a great watch, but the strap and clip are junk . Because i own a Galaxy Note 4, i bought now a used Gear S with Tizen OS. The watch is also fantastic and very light in comparison. The amoled display is the highlight, bigger and the colors are awesome. And you can buy straps at amazon in various colors for about 15 $ :good:
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
Happy for you.

But thanks for Tizen (and not just Tizen but very truncated Tizen Mobile Profile) in "solo" mode it can be used only for web (with Opera MIni), for phone calls (without even possibility to add/edit contacts in address book) and some physical activity tracking. No messengers, no VoIP, almost no third party software at all.

If someone indeed needs "solo" possibilities of the Android in a wrist device then the Tizen Mobile isn't an option for him. Tizen Mobile is like Android Wear but way more limited.
[Other SmartWatches] Kateremir:
Yeah, thats right, but in the past i never used this things on my inwatch. I only take phone calls, read my E-Mails and use the camera. Camera is the only thing, i miss on the gear S. And for me important, Battery life is better with clock always on.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Dear Mr. Sam,

We are waiting for the firmware update that you promised, to our old inWatch Z.

When you think, that gone be possible?

Thanks for your attention.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I don't think Mr. Force will reply on this. He talks a lot, but says nothing. His promises are all wishfull thinking. On his Facebook page I complained about the quality of the strap and the bad after-sales of InWatch China. He said he was glad to help, but no replies on my emails yet (more than a week).

Don't believe him!
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
I cant stand the look of that thing, ill look into the 3g model unless you can recommend something else?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I'm not aware of the existence of any other stand-alone smartwatch that's of good quality. Be warned: the ECeros is rubbish! The IMacwear is a clone of the Ornate and is comparable to the Z3G, but has an extra SD card slot.

Mr. Force says the strap of the Z3G has been made more resilient, but that remains to be seen. The pre-ordered will ship 1st week of august, if you order now I'm afraid it will be september before being shipped.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
How about the Aberdeen and the zgpax s8?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
The Aberdeen looks not good enough, I don't know if the zgpax s8 is of good quality.

I'm currently using a Burg 15, I'm very satisfied, but it's not an Android.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I've watched a video of the S8. The battery is only good for 1 day, much worse than the Z!
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
My inWatch Z, only give for a day in use, because it goes to +/- 50% of battery, and then suddenly turns off.

In this aspect, it got much worse with this new firmware that I install (Android 4.4.2 / Kernel 3.4.67), I don`t know why?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Something is preventing the CPU to go into deep sleep. You don't have shake to wake active, do you?
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
No, this program "Shake" is disable in my watch.

And if I restart the watch with 60% of battery, when it turn On, only show 5% or less...
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
The indication of the battery is totally bogus, so don't count on this. Try to find out what's keeping your CPU busy.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
I have some programs running (11 in total, I think all normal), but the problem is the fault of accurate measurement of the battery level, than my inWatch show.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
My Z did shut down at 88%, but it took more than 3 days to reach this. But at 88% the battery was empty.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
In this 3 days, you keep the watch always On, you don`t turn Off at night?

Because my battery problem, appear when I turn off at nigh (with example 50% battery) and in the morning when I turn On it have only 5%.

That is my real problem, with this watch :mad:
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
No, I didn't turn it off at night. Install the CPU spy app, so you can see what the cpu is doing.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Ok, I already install.

I have 39% of the CPU at 1001Mhz

61% in Deep Sleep

What does it mean?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
The 39% at 1001 Mhz is way to high. You should get more than 95% in deep sleep.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
I have this programs right now running:

- Definitions;

- Transparent weather clock;

- Acti_service;

- Bluetooth;

- Services (GcmRece...);

- Services (GcmService);

- Services (DeviceO.....);

- Notifications from Smart Launcher;

- Smart Launcher;

- 360 Security;

- Flit Keyboard;
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I don't know what Definions is supposed to do, nor Acti_service. Turn off 360 Security, you don't need it. And maybe Transparent weather clock is updating too often (it has no WiFi sometimes).

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And check the battery in Settings. Maybe it shows where all that battery juice is going to.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Ok, I disable the Real time protection of 360 Security. The program Definitions is On, because when I see what programs are running, I used. I turn Off the "Acti_service" than I don`t know what is too, and my updates of the Weather are at 4h when only with wifi On.

For last, I reset counters of CPU Spy to see what happens in this next hours.

Thanks for your help.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
How about the k8? Here is a link to the thread: http://xdaforums.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/k8-android-4-2-3g-applewatch-design-t3106928
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
After reading post #18 of your link I'd be very carefull.

And that battery life: awfull. 16 hrs of standby and 4 hrs of heavy use. Not the one for me.
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
After I made some adjust, I have the CPU Spy, with these values:

1001 MHz - 18%

Deep Sleep - 80%

And my Z after 2,5 days (include at nigth) On, goes 42% of Battery to 10% and after 5min. turns Off (with 0%).

It seem the problem of measure the Battery continues...

Maybe with this new firmware update, that Mr. Sam promise, solve this and other Errors.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Yes, that's much better. Of course it's up to you to decide which apps should be running, just realise that every app consumes power. It is possible to squeeze 7-10 days lifetime out of the battery, but that's not a realistic configuration. But set the display brightnes to 10%, that's enough for a transflective display.
[Other SmartWatches] dev_null:
k though i dont really use gps i wont get it

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ill probably get either the zgpax s8 or the 3g z
[Other SmartWatches] uffi69:
Hi all, i'm interested in buying this smartwatch and i would know what are the exactly sizes of it and its IP rating. Thsnks
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
For the exact sizes see post#10. And it's IP67 (splash resistant).
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
If you are talking about the 2G version, it's not IP67 even though the main site says so. It's case design makes it impossible to be IP67 as their are points of entry that will allow water to reach the internal electronics. It's an unsealed case with a supposed water resistant nano coating on the internals. It is at best an IP43.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I must confess I'm not an expert on IP-ratings, but it is splashresistant, right? Almost all Chinese products are said to be IP67, as long as it can withstand a raindrop falling 100 metres apart. Even the E-Ceros has an IP67 rating.

But I think I can safely call the InWatch Z splashresistant, especially with it's better nanocoating. But correct me if I'm wrong.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
i finally managed to get round to trying this. How long should i wait for the glue to dry before sticking the plates?
[Other SmartWatches] far2shok:
Bone conductive speaker

Signal to bone conductive speaker lost, I checked and find out that problem is with electric stub. It is damaged, Can anybody help me to order it? Where can I order it?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
IP67 - No ingress of dust (dust tight), No water ingress while submerged (1m/30m)

So no, not IP67. And neither is the E-Ceros (It's a rebranded EC-309). As far as the nanocoating, I submerged my Z in about ten inches of water and it died. All on video BTW. After a complete teardown and thorough alcohol cleaning I was able to get it semi-functional. The backlight goes out on a regular basis.

It doesn't go in to extreme details but Wiki is clear enough on the matter to be used as a guide. One thing many gloss over is a "7" rating is only for "7" and does not include testing for any rating lower. So an IPx7 device may still fail a water jet test IPx6 but still pass IPx7 testing.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Just a few mins, call it 5. cant really over dry it, it stays SUPER sticky, especially to more of itself, when "dry". I bet doing it wet may work too but I would expect some squeeze out on the edges. Remember, a thin layer is best, dont want to have the two "dry" layers creating a pad that makes the plate stick up a bit.

Let me know how it all goes!

Also, I just posted this on FB so I wanted to cross post here. Shipping update:

Hello everyone, CEO Sam Force here. I wanted to make this announcement personally, as I have been working day and night over the last week to meet with all the people and companies involved. So lets get right to it.

The production of inWatch Z 3G has been delayed. We are working with the production giant FoxCon and this Sunday I was told of changes in our molds for both the watch band itself as well as the watch band support part. What followed was a week of meetings to find out why this change was made at this late stage as well as to SET IN STONE the new production schedule based on the new molds.

FoxCon is an excellent facility and one of the reasons that is true is rather than just make what they are asked to make, they are actively working with their manufacturing clients to QA the product, make improvement suggestions and implement them. In this case, the delay caused SHOULD have been almost nonexistent but they had basically messed up two molds and once they were used, it was clear they needed to be replaced. Many factories would have just kept using them but they apologized profusely, made the corrections and moved on.

This is what we want, the highest quality. Unfortunate that it comes at a time cost that it does but I will take that every time over a less than stellar product. That said, I would like to offer my own apology for the delay and make sure you know that we are doing EVERYTHING we can to get Z3G out to our customers. Sorry guys and gals, very truly. I hate making people wait.

OK so what can we expect for the new delivery dates? The first 100 units will be complete on the 3rd of September. I will have them on US shores by the 10th and all preorders will ship at that time. Most realistic time for individual units to arrive at your home will be September 15th. This is with ALL changes taken into account.

We are back on track, Z3G is on the production line and my Chinese counterparts understand the hard position they put the inWatch USA team in by not giving us this information sooner. They assure me and I am not in turn assuring you that this will now go smoothly and we will see units at the aforementioned timeline.

InWatch is only as good as its word and its products. I am truly sorry that our shipping target has been missed but I believe all involved did the right thing to put quality first. And if flame us you must, try to roast us evenly. It is beach season after all :)
[Other SmartWatches] Kirrrr:
[MENTION=5891605]inWatchUSA[/MENTION], thank you for this information!

Keeping my fingers crossed. :fingers-crossed:
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Dear Sam,

What is the company "http://globalindevices.com", they announce a

inWhat Z 2

, also?

How about the new firmware, that you promised to the gays who buy the first inWhact Z?

Thanks for your reply and best regards.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Guys i have kodi installed on my inwatch but its pretty useless without a super low-res skin...

need a skin for kodi specifically made for watches so you can swipe and see easy
[Other SmartWatches] far2shok:
Bone conductive speaker

Signal to bone conductive speaker lost, I checked and find out that problem is with electric stub. It is damaged, Can anybody help me to order it or full peace of band with camera and speaker? Where can I order it?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I've got a Z with a broken strap, the other side, not where the camera is. Maybe you can make one working Z out of mine and yours? If you are willing to pay for the costs I can send it to you. PM me if so.

I don't think you can buy a new strap with camera and speaker.
[Other SmartWatches] PrDubis:
Selling my Inwatch Z, mint condition.

Pm if interested.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Ok, my gripe here is the irony. This watch can do so much yet so little.

What i really want it to do, it cant do...yet i can go on Amazon and buy a smart watch for £20 which gives me my missed calls, texts and other notifications.

Please someone tell me is there an Inwatch Z app that i can install on my phone and tablet which pairs them together so ican receive these simple notifications and alerts?

I have tried pushbullet - this used to do everything i want but they have decided to disable the notifications accross android devices feature for some unknown reason. i have emailed them about this but they wont answer - very strange.

I also tried an app that someone recommended a few months back on this very thread, but that was too complicated and basically took over your watch and phone.

someone tell me how I can watch sky sports, use remote desktop, game on this watch but cannot link to my phone for simple notifications?????

help me please someone otherwise i am just gonna sell it LOL
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I think the InClub app is what you are looking for. Unfortunately this app is only in Chinese. I think Sam has promised an english version, but his promises take years to come true.