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[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Hey all, I am back in action after months of behind the scenes firefighting. I will go through and answer anything I missed.

Global Indevices is a company that is going to distribute for inWatch. They are advertising the Z3G but as they are Spanish speakers, sometimes the translation is an issue. So the "inWatch Z 2" that they are talking about is Z3G and they are indeed getting them straight from us.

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OK, ok, not years. Months maybe :)

Sorry about that , hardware are hard wares to get right. inClub does exist in English, we are trying to get the app store and google play to swap the Chinese one out for it. Each new Z will have a link to it as well. inHealth has been translated as well. Wait times suck but we are a small team working on a lot of stuff. So soon this will be a problem of the past.

I will post links here ASAP as well for those without a new watch on order. Count on it.

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Alright everyone, here is where it starts to get fun.

I am trying to get the package ready for folks to download the source code for the latest inWatch Z3G OS, 4.4 kitkat build. I am not a coder and I am working with the Chinese devs to get this thing prepped and have coherent directions as to how to interact with it. The following is what I now have, along with the 5 file segments that make up the split 5.96gb file. Let me know if this is sufficient info or if possible, how to translate it into more human readable steps:

system:ubuntu12.04

1.sudo apt-get update

2. sudo apt-get install wine flex bison gperf build-essential curl zlib1g-dev g++-multilib g++-4.4-multilib libc6-dev-i386 lib32ncurses5-dev ia32-libs x11proto-core-dev libx11-dev lib32z1-dev mingw32 tofrodos libxml2-utils

install jdk-6uxx-linux-x64.bin (must be jdk-6uxxxxx)

eg:/usrlib/jvm/jdk-6u25-linux-x64.bin

cd /usrlib/jvm

sudo chmod a+x jdk-6u25-linux-x64.bin

sudo ./jdk-6u25-linux-x64.bin

jdk1.6.0_24

EDIT .bashrc

1.sudo gedit ~/.bashrc

#path

export PATH=/home/a/code/alps/prebuilt/linux-x86/toolchain/arm-eabi-4.4.3/bin:$PATH

export JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/jdk1.6.0_24

export PATH=$JAVA_HOME/bin:$PATH

export CLASSPATH=$JAVA_HOME/lib

========================================

unzip sourcecoude:

cat x0*|tar xz

make source:

cd code_dir

./mk inwatchz_low_hspa_kk new

========================================

---------note:

gcc must be gcc-4.4;

g++ must be g++-4.4;

> cd /usr/bin/

>sudo ln -sf gcc-4.4 gcc

>sudo ln -s g++-4.4 g++
[Other SmartWatches] Apokriphos:
Dear Sam, maybe Perpe or Lokifish Marz can make sense of that. Hopefully one of them will see the recent activity in this thread and stop by to take a look.

A much easier way would be for you to make a quick system dump from the Inwatch 3G

http://www.theandroidhow.com/2014/05/how-to-backup-rom-dump-mtk-android.html

Nandroid backup also works and is even simpler. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.h3r3t1c.onnandbup&hl=en You can do it using the app from the store, or through Perpes modified recovery. Once you do it and post that here we will all have access :)

Re, Theo: I still use SWapp Link https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.preiss.swapps.link&hl=en from the android store. It doesn't take over my phone or my watch (and you can disable the auto watch face start screen), and works great. Still 5 day battery life on average, although I do have to recharge it turned off to keep the battery charged. For some reason it won't charge to full (it says 100%, but discharges quickly) when turned on and charging.

Thank you Sam for continuing to stay in touch - We all know this watch has potential, so show us what it can do

Perpe's Recovery Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzS3qI2y-90Ac3MwMnhuU21mUkk/view?usp=sharing

Inwatch Z Rom: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BzS3qI2y-90AY3lvSVFHSVJTUTQ/view?usp=sharing
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
seriously cant figure out how to link the phone and the watch together on swapp link?? i have installed the app on both my galaxy s6 (master) and the inwatch z (companion), i have paired them both via bluetooth, used the same gmail account but nothing happens..
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
I am as I type this trying to get a real status report on the inClub app in english. Massive apologies that it has taken so long.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Ok, i have managed to get this SWAPP Link working really well...they must have done a good few updates since i used it earlier in the year!

One issue i have is that the Inwatch clock face keeps taking over and i have to swipe to get rid of it before i can see the Swapp clock face...any solutions to this?
[Other SmartWatches] LServ:
Thanks Sam,

We go wait for the new Backup ROM, to put in our inWatch Z (first generation).

Regards,
[Other SmartWatches] countolaf:
Sam, could you post the English InClub APK file here when you get it, please?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
On which part? Not sure how much time I have though as I'm spread thin right now (move, projects, and consulting).
[Other SmartWatches] Wii60:
Just got my inwatch z 3g....super disappointed. Software looks better (but never going to be on par with android wear), but this thing doesn't buckle AT ALL. Latching mechanism looks vastly inferior to the old inwatch Z.

Not to mention I never reordered after being told I had to...they charged and shipped anyways.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffmplsmn:
When I got the notification my pre-order was canceled so they could rebill an $8 shipping fee I decided to check my PayPal account and my authorization for them to still charge me was still on my PayPal account. I manually canceled the pre-auth so they couldn't charge me any longer.

However, I then decided to re-order and used Amazon payments to pay for the watch. I ordered on a Tuesday night and received the watch on Friday. Not bad for $8. My latching mechanism works fine although it's a little bulky but not too bad.

I did not own the original so I cannot compare the two but so far I like it. I tried a T-Mobile SIM and as expected I only had 2G EDGE service however unlike on my phone I could stream 128 streams from TuneIn, Xiia, and could even stream from iHeart and SiriusXM. I then put in a Cricket SIM and got 3G and things worked even better. WiFi and Bluetooth are working fine too.

I tried to use the watch to track a walk with Wahoo Fitness using a BT HR monitor, a cadence monitor, and the GPS, but it froze at the beginning. I held in the side button for 15 seconds to reset the watch per the instruction manual but upon reboot it was still frozen. I then left the watch alone for a while and then I was able to reboot and get functionality back.

I think the freezing occurs when I try to use the InClub app. I scanned the QR code from the box and downloaded what was called the English version. I did get the watch and phone paired but that's about it. I say so called English version as many of the main screens are in English, but if you go to a sub screen from a menu is was hit or miss if it's displayed in English or Chinese. I did have a second freeze and I know the InClub app's BT connection was on at the time. Maybe the InClub app is only to be used with the SIM removed? I haven't tried that yet but it would make sense.

The manual should be expanded to include a section about going into Settings and scrolling to the end and using Compatibility mode on most apps. It makes a difference on many.
[Other SmartWatches] alkaaby:
To Lokifish,

Please .. work with Sam and the other dev to have the official KK backup rom for our Z2G watches ..

To Sam,

We have been waiting for a long time here .. please be responsible for your promises to your costumers and friends here .. we respect you and absolutely we wish you all success in your project ..
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
No, this doesn't make sense. I don't know if the InClub app needs some more development, but the coupled smartphone should be able to push messages using the internet (the cloud) when the Z is not in range for Bluetooth to work. And you will need the simcard for having a GPRS connection
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
guys use Swapp Link from Playstore, i can verify it works really well and also has the option to push notifications by wifi etc if Bluetooth connection is lost due to distance. friggin great app!!!
[Other SmartWatches] Wii60:
How's your battery life? I can only ever get 12 hours.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
battery life is useless. Plus the problem is mine is reporting the wrong value....it could be all day and get to 64%, then it just goes dead...i have tried calibration and nothing works....

actually - can anyone find a solution to this or recommend the right calibration app that works???
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Sounds like your running KitKat. This cannot be calibrated, it's a bug in the software.

Batterylife can easily be expanded to 3 days or even longer. Install the CPUspy app, so you can see what the CPU is doing. It should report a deepsleep value of at least 80%, but preferably above 90%. Try to find out which app is keeping the CPU busy and stop that one.
[Other SmartWatches] Wii60:
Even with a sim card in? How do you hit 3 days?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Yes, with a simcard in and WiFi active all day. See my previous post for a possible solution. Shake-to-wake and apps like that are notorious battery killers by the way.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Ok, I will try this out.

However, this brings up another issue.. I keep having to uninstall apps just so I can get others on… its ridiculous… I am sure I have plenty of room…. Is there any way I can increase the "app" partition?
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Hi Wii60,

Sorry to hear you are not happy with Z, I have been hearing this problem about the latch from a few customers already and am in contact with the factory to fix it. In the mean time, it is possible to bend the little metal tab forward to increase the latch strength. Again, this should have been done correctly at the factory and I apologize that it was not. Be that as it may, I how this suggestion helps and thanks for the report. Iteration man. It sucks but it is a part of hardware. As a backup thought, if you have the old model, feel free to unscrew the latch plate and use it on the new watch. Should fit.

As for the shipping, that is not a problem I have seen before and really don't like that it happened. I am confused as well, did your order charge the $8 shipping? The reason I ask is the Celery preorders would not allow us to "add" a line item of the shipping charge so we had to actually ask people to reorder (faceplam). If you were indeed charged the 8 bucks, there must have been a reorder at some point because we have no way of adding it ourselves. If it was not charged the shipping charge, you are indeed seeing a problem on our end and I can look deeper into it. Either way, apologies on the lack of positivity in general surrounding your initial experience with the whole shebang. We will be working on getting everything on track, thanks to the AWESOME suggestions made on this forum.
[Other SmartWatches] Wii60:
While I am sorry to say that I have had a negative experience with the inWatch, I should mention to anyone reading that InWatch fixed the error with quick responses to email. Shout out to Niels who was great!
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
So a lotta good and some not so good! I can work with that! OK, lets dive in.

Awesome that your package arrived in a timely manner! We are working with Avid logistics and Patrick and his team over there are proving to be really incredible. From the customs hold to the order migration, they have really kicked some ass so props to them and glad you are happy.

I can't tell you how happy I am with the 3G, WIFI and Bluetooth on Z. Small size, packs a punch. GPS I am still testing, so far so good. I found a cool running app called my tracks that I recommend it worked really well and exported my run, gave me choice at the resolution of logging, ect. There is one user in Italy who is having trouble with his GPS getting signal while he drives but I suspect that it is due to the fact that he does not have a SIM installed. Anyway, I digress. On to the painful stuff.

inClub "english version" is not at all what I had hoped. Our developer made what he thought was a functional demo app showing Z's ability to pair with an Android phone. It does not do that consistently at this time and as was mentioned, has a lot of Chinese characters left in some parts of the code. Believe me I am all over trying to get changes made but I am rapidly realizing that if I want this done right I am probably going to have to make it here in the USA. At the same time, I am excited to explore swaplink as an alternative. If it works great, why reinvent the wheel.

On the settings / compatibility mode stuff, that is a great suggestion, we will add it to the website support section. Although isn't this the same for all android 4.4 devices? Sometimes I dont know what to cover in OUR manual and what is common knowledge among droid users.

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I think it is finally time to reconnect. I know you are a busy guy, I wanted to wait until I had something worth talking to you about. With the launch of Z3G, we finally have a piece of HARDWARE I can really say I love. But as you and some others on here know, this thing could really scream with some tweaks done in the right places. Add to this the fact that we have a really solid chance of getting into Jaguar / Land Rover's tech incubator (https://www.f6s.com/inwatchusa?follow=1&accelerator_id=16009) and here we are. Shoot me a PM, lets talk.

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THANK YOU! This is awesome. we need this on the OS level. I will be reaching out to the devs.
[Other SmartWatches] marco31260:
Hi

I 've received the InWatch Z yesterday. It seems not easy to use. I 'll try to do my best; but i'd like to know how can you install android apps since there is not 'Google Play' installed. Please show me. And also, can i connect it to my windows PC, and which software for that ?

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Oh boy… go back to page 1 and start reading! PMSL
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Did you buy a Z3G from InWatchUSA or a Z2G from China?
[Other SmartWatches] marco31260:
Thank you; then i will in the 1st page.

I have bought it on geekbuying and i wanted the black color but they sent me the orange strap one; i will see if i can repaint it.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Can't you send it back because it's the wrong color? They are probably not able to replace it, so you can ask your money back. And buy one from InWatchUSA for $199.
[Other SmartWatches] marco31260:
Thank you for the idea. I will try that this week.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Definitely the best way to Go. Good luck with the return and looking forward to your order :)
[Other SmartWatches] marco31260:
I've emailed to GeekBuying yesterday for the return of the watch. Till now, no reply from them.

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I forgot to ask you about the shipping from InWatchUs; how long will it be to get it in France?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Packages from the USA to Holland take about 1 week to arrive. France will be not different I guess.
[Other SmartWatches] marco31260:
Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Yes, exactly. No more than 10 days and most likely a week

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So we are looking at just getting a dev here in the US to fix inClub and even attempt an iphone version. I have a few inquiries out but thought I should probably ask here as well. Any of you care to suggest someone?
[Other SmartWatches] jeffmplsmn:
I may have to exchange mine. After working well for a day, the watch's touch screen failed to respond to touches. Then it happened again and again. I would hold in the side button for well more than the 15 seconds to reset and sometimes it would start working again but other times it would not and I would have to try to reset again. Even though I spent quite a bit of time configuring and installing my apps, I decided to do a factory reset and then also deleted the phone storage partition thinking it might be a bad app. But after resetting I only installed Google Voice and Hangouts and the screen again became unresponsive. The side button works but there isn't much you can do with it. I press the side button and the lock screen comes on but then I can't do anything. I hate to spend a few hours reconfiguring only to have it not work again.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffmplsmn:
I did reload my apps and then tried to use Wahoo Fitness again today and just like a week ago, the touch screen fails to respond to any touches. I'm now thinking it has to do with Bluetooth Smart, Bluetooth Low Energy. I had three devices paired within the Wahoo app: a HR monitor, a footpod, and the Echo watch and things were fine until I did that.

I finally got the watch to respond to touches again after pulling the SIM card. Then I uninstalled Wahoo Fitness and things were fine for awhile but then I installed Strava and started an activity while wearing a BT HR monitor and got instant freeze. I don't think the operating system is actually frozen as I can see a few notifications go by on the screen, but the touchscreen does not respond to anything.

I tried with and without a SIM. Still no luck. Tried a Cricket SIMM and then a T-Mobile SIM. That didn't matter.

Since my main purpose of getting this was to exercise without a phone, this has to go back.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffmplsmn:
I know it froze at least once without a SIM but for the last day I've had no SIM in the watch and I've been trouble free, even using the Wahoo Fitness app. But since I already have an Android Wear watch, I don't need another watch that relies on my phone. I need this to work with a SIM card inserted.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
This is an odd one, as it seems to be caused by a series of software and hardware swaps that will be almost impossible to duplicate and test in the same manner that they occurred. From your explanation, it certainly doesn't sound like the watch handled the changes made very well but I have never heard of a case of the touch screen being affected by this sort of thing. I will get the return process under way here for you and we will take this unit under the testing microscope to see what we can see. Meanwhile, I hope the unit we send as a replacement will take whatever you throw at it. If you believe that a certain chain of steps gets you back to the same problem, please do your best to document them, it could help us narrow down a hard to find bug. Thanks for the help, we will get you sorted.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffmplsmn:
Quick update. Although I haven't heard from Inwatchz on how to process a return yet, I decided to take the watch back out of the box and when I turned it on there was a small OTA update. I read on Facebook that the update had something to do about not being able to enter a SIM pin, but since I installed the OTA my watch has not frozen once even with a SIM card in it. This weekend I'll be out exercising with it using some Bluetooth Low Energy devices (HRM, cadence sensor) and I'll see if it continues to function without freezing.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Another update, apparently this watch froze again while showing it to someone. At this point we have asked him to ship it back and we will send a new one out. All part of manufacturing to have an odd problem but this one is especially strange. This unit will be tested like woah. You will all hear about the outcome and what we learn. Hope everyone is having a good fall so far, inWatch out.
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
Kingo not working on 4.4.2. Anyone have an alternate method?
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
Kingo not working on 4.4.2. Anyone have an alternate root method?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
What exactly is going wrong? I've rooted the Z with Kingo several times without problems.
[Other SmartWatches] jeffmplsmn:
I got my replacement inWatchz 3G and it's working perfectly. Thanks to Sam for promptly getting me a new device. It's nice being able to just take it out the box and have it working with all the Google Play apps I'm throwing at it.
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
Downloaded Kingo apk., installed and ran it. It looked to be installing, and even rebooted itself. Root check, not rooted. Ran Kingo again, and it gets stuck at 90% and then says it failed. Went through kingoapp.com and was able to root using PC method. It also downloaded something called HelloJni, not sure what that is.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
So if you use the PC method (as I always do) your Z is rooted? Where is the problem then?
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
Never used Kingo before. The links on XDA didn't work. Just happened look at Chrome on the phone and typed the link to my laptop. It looked like a different sight all together. Anyway, it worked out. The problem was as I stated when I originally asked for help it didn't work when I went through the link here on XDA. Just happy it worked and I was able to load Titanium and freeze some apps.
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
I have an issue. The watch has been great. However, today I was trying to tweek the screen and went into Settings>Developer options>and under Drawing-> Simulate secondary displays I changed it and it put a black tint over the whole screen with the word "Overlay" in the top right corner. I have been running it using Nova launcher (pretty sick) and I use the weather screen as the first page and ii wouldn't take up the whole screen.

Does anyone know how to do a factory rest using button combos, PC (it is rooted and usb debugging is enabled) or if you can send me some kind of file that I may be able to flash using MTK flash tools I would appreciate it. Only been a couple of hours and my wrist feels naked.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Can anyone tell me what is the best "shake to wake" app to use for this watch which will consume the least battery?

many thanks
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
You can use an app called Condi (used to be called Mini Takser). I works like tasker only its an app.
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
So I pushed Android Device Manager to my watch, made it ring then wiped it and it factory reset it . Now I'm back. I use the no lock app along with Yahoo weather and it looks and functions very well. Back to using the stock inLauncher and am pretty happy.
[Other SmartWatches] Bryan0588:
Download "Gravity Screen" from the Play Store. That's the real deal!
[Other SmartWatches] PrDubis:
Is there any updated firmware for the first gen Inwatch?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
No, just an old KitKat version. The promised new version seems to be blowing in the wind.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
to be fair i think Kit-Kat is all we need for this watch guys. Using Swapp Link to link to phone works a treat - other apps are a bonus...using Mobdro i can watch premium sports channels on this thing! Love it!
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Were it not for that annoying battery-level bug.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
yes true, but i just deal with that by charging it every night - it always lasts a day that way....