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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Docmjldds:
I guess I am going to have to just slightly disagree with your reply. For one, firmwares do make a big difference. If they didn't, then they wouldn't bother updating them. I do a standard test myself here in my home, ever since I have been on XDA. For consistency, I ALWAYS have my phone in an exact spot I specifically setup. NO deviation in placement as well as orientation of the phone etc to rule out antenna issues either. And I test over a given period of time, so as to rule out fluctuations from users on a cell tower at any given time, as well as time of day. My methodology can hold up to most scrutiny.

Yes, location makes a huge difference. But again, I am using the same location and the same criteria...period.

Those speeds I posted I have never ever gotten close to before. I keep a slew of NandroidsI make after a fresh install of any new ROM. So I can most definitely compare specific ROMs as well. In the past, many build prop edits would affect data speeds. I believe there is less of that lately and more individual files themselves specific to the ROM bases being used. Stock kernels also vs custom kernels, at least in my own experience appear to make a difference, for whatever reason. I'm not a kernel hacker to know the why.

IOW...I base my statements on what I feel is solid defensible scientific testing principles I have basically developed for my own use. And lastly, I did state that it was purely an annectodatal reply from one user that he had less than ideal data responses since he installed BNH5. I cannot speak for any other issue specific to that user. It was just a statement, that one can take or not take on face value.

I have been around the block here on XDA for a long enough period of time to feel comfortable defending my reply. Sorry for the excess verbage. Felt it was required.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] brees75:
I will repost with the important parts highlighted because you seemed to have missed them:

People say that with every update and I have yet to see any fluctuation. I am on BNH5 and stock and I get 50-60Mb down and 20-30Mb up LTE. ROM's don't affect data speed either. Can't go faster than the signal you get.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Docmjldds:
No more comments. Roms effects speeds. If you have an overheating setup:silly:, tell me, you really think specs don't get affected
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
Deleted.. Figured it out myself.. Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] rchristy:
Ok, I'm working in wireless system and device testing for more than 15 years. The truth is the modem firmware update is mostly for small error corrections or some enhancement. The majority performance testing was done in lab and field few months before the launch. That would not be changed significantly.

When you do your testing, whatever you tried to make them the same, they are never the same since it is not a conducted testing. You never know how many people is using the same tower as you. You also cannot control the moving objects which reflect signal to the same place, and many other situations.

If you really want to do a good testing, go out to the same office area at 2am or 3am to avoid the interference. Other than that, the testing at home or office during working hours is crap.

So don't expect the new firmware giving you big changes. But I still like to apply it to get little enhancement.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Docmjldds:
End of subject. I stated clearly that I know that tower traffic can change over any given time. I clearly stated how I gave an allowance for this fact. Please re-read my post. Anyway, enough beating a dead horse. Everyone here is more than free to use the same firmware that shipped on their phone, or use any of the various versions that came out. VOLTE, WRT TMobile was not possible on earlier firmware. Enough said. I'm not twisting any ones arms here to use any ROM, or firmware. Read OP's. Make an informed decision based on on needs. Reports issues that may arise specific to whatever situation you feel is warranted. End of soap box as well as defense for my own testing. At least i try to be objective to a degree. That's more than I can say probably for most of the comments I see posted.

http://www.cellreception.com/towers/details.php?id=1242686

This specifc tower is the one closest to where I live. Probably approx 1/4 mile from my house. I am in a quiet rural residential neighborhood that at 3am may see less that a half dozen cars etc at 3am....again. I feel I can control somewhat the amount of traffic i have to deal with at a given time. But anyway...enough. I stand by my objectivity as well as my own feelings that firmware can most certainly make a difference as well as ROM.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] cwburns32:
When installing modem only file AP or CP in 3.09? Also when installing firmware use AP or CP? I currently have NE6 modem and NF6 firmware. Looking to find which modem works best for me and the obviously most recent firmware. I know the firmware and modem can be different but I am unsure on which file browser to use on Odin AP or CP.

EDIT 1: After a little bit of searching I now realize AP is PDA and CP is Phone. I know to use PDA but even when I use PDA to flash new modem and firmware (NG4) - no change to phone's modem or firmware version. Used 2 different cords, 2 different USB ports. For some reason can not get modem and firmware to stick after they install "successfully" via Odin. If someone could shed some light.

EDIT 2: Also I am slightly confused... I know modem is baseband version but in the Samsung Phone Info app it lists a bootloader version and a baseband version. Does firmware encompass the baseband version and bootloader version as well? Thus when you update the firmware it updates both bootloader and baseband to firmware version number you are updating to?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Docmjldds:
Firmware only does indeed imply that it will update BOTH modem and bootloader. I can tell you what works for me on a successful update. Basically I wipe my setup, then Odin install a full stock tar of latest Firmware based files...in this case NG4. I do this by making sure after I wipe my phone basicall using a factory reset, I shut down. Pull battery. After 30 seconds or so, replace battery and start up the phone in download mode using the volume down, home, power button and install the stock tar with latest firmware. Then I do install the firmware only file, via Odin, using the same shutdown phone. Pull battery, then replace battery and start up in download mode. You should NOW have latest stock tar installed with latest firmware. Now simply install recovery of choice via Odin and download mode. No need to pull battery when you install recovery.

Now flash whatever you like :cool:

Yes, I am quite sure others may chime in and say no need to do this or that. That said, after getting tired of seeing that successful message in Odin and NO firmware changes, I use this method which basically has been mentioned one way or the other in OP's on firmware updates. I am on NG4 modem and bootloader, BTW. Hope that works for you. Works for me:good:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] cwburns32:
Thanks a ton. I'm sure this will be helpful to many others as well. I did eventually get my flashes via Odin to work and all I had to do was run Odin as an administrator and it worked perfectly.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Docmjldds:
Welcome. I'm on a Mac desktop running parallels to have Windows capability. Just installed Odin normally. Didn't need admin. mode, but glad you got it to work. Back in my older S3 and earlier days, firmware updates were fairly easy, using Mobile Odin. Seems since the S4 and now S5, more of a PITA ;)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] NYCguy2020:
Anyone??!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mike28:
Maybe just Odin flash the baseband and firmware might do it not sure about tripping knox, I honestly Tripp knox the first day for me it's not a concern since it's more for Samsung directly warranty situations
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] tekno4ever:
when is the newest firmware G900TUVU1BNH5 going to be posted here?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Squirrels:
It has been posted by others in a reply a few pages back. The OP seems to be away and thus the first post is growing stagnant.

Link to the post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55405141&postcount=456
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] tekno4ever:
thanks for the reply but that link has been disabled by Dropbox due to traffic. I want to install a full tar not just the modem or bootloader. .
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Squirrels:
Most people count the firmware as modem and bootloader and the full package as the stock ROM.

You'll likely have to suffer through sammobile download speeds to get the full package since the other dropbox link a few pages back also hit its limit for traffic.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] tekno4ever:
I cant even get the download to work from sammobile :confused:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] TheArtiszan:
Is there a firmware only package somewhere for the latest version I missed?

---------- Post added at 08:46 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:44 PM ----------

Or how can I make a firmware only file from the full one?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] exitpr0gram:
Advise Please?

When searching this thread for "SM-G900V" your post is the only one that came up. I decided to quote you even though you "Sent" the reply from the SM-G900V instead of specifically stating that you've used it to use the files within this thread.

That device, SM-900V is what is have.

I want to know how to root and if i can use the files on this thread without bricking it since the first post states not to flash on anything but T-Mobile S5 (9500T). I did buy this from an authorized T-Mobile store and I think they have some type of Verizon SIM card in it or something, i get a weird SIM card error. I'm going to take it up to them to see wth is up with that. ANYWAY...

Bottom line is, can i use these files within this thread? Can i also use the CF-Auto-Root files found here?

Thanks in advance for the help. Lovin' the phone and can't wait to get down n' dirty with it, :good:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Quickvic30:
NO do not flash T-Mobile firmware on a Verizon device!

I just edit the build prop to verizon device specs because I like the Verizon 4GLTE icon and then xda app automatically sees my device as a 900V but I really have a 900T.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] dzhowandai:
Anyway to get themechooser working on this rom touchwiz home ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
Wrong place to ask this, and no, that only works on AOSP/CM ROMs. So go flash CM11 if you want themes.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
Lets Try this again.. I want to update my from ne6 to nh5 without losing root. I have installed the nh5 bootloader and modem, i now want to install the firmware. I have downloaded the full tar.md5 from sammymobile and would like to know what files i need to pull out for the firmware update that i can install via mobile odin pro.

Do i have correct files to update the firmware in mobile odin

I figured it out Thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] TheArtiszan:
Anyone know how I can make a firmware only kinda of file like this had?

I was just wondering as the firmware only seemed to have flashed more then just the bootloader and modem no? There are more then three files in those packages.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] hardcore88:
Is there any way to make a recovery flashable zip of the firmware?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] KingVeto:
That's a negative, man.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] TheArtiszan:
Firmware Only

For those who might have been looking for it.

I have made a firmware only file for NH5 that includes the bootloader and modem just like the ones that beanstown would have released.

You can download it from the following Mega link.

If you like I can upload it to another mirror if needed.

This simplifies the update process if you are updating with mobile odin and trying to keep root without tripping Knox.

https://mega.co.nz/#!wddBXaiI!3XjnRs-aI6wrOTyv4-BkUGhTKGqOnvDZQURc4YfEVeI

Everything seems to have worked okay when I tested it.

I will be able to do similar releases like this as future updates come out.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] richierich118:
How do i get the files needed to downgrade firmware so i can root my new sg5 the link says file not found.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Kjc99:
You trying to root without tripping knox? If you just want root and don't care about Knox just use cf-auto-root... If you want to downgrade you can try sammobile or Samsung update live....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] richierich118:
I dont want to trip knox. So i thought i had to downgrade then use towelroot. I want stock rooted thats all.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
Just download the ne6 tar in the first post, use odin 3.09 and then use towel root to gain root access, once you have root access download supersu and install it, then download the nh5 firmware and modem, not the full rom but just the firmware and modem, use odin again and flash firmware in bl and modem and cp. once you have done that then you will need mobile odin pro flash the rest of nh5, only thing is you are going to have buy the mobile odin pro from the play store. this is the way i did it and it works. iam on nh5 w root and have not tripped knox.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] richierich118:
I cannot download the ne6 firmware tar it says file not found on every link
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
i just tried it and it works, starting downloading. i would try again, and i use would chrome and not firefox to download
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] TheArtiszan:
Yeah don't try and download it on the phone. I always have trouble doing that.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mocsab:
I am trying on my computer to download and ALL of the download links send out a 4o4 error - file not found.

So I tried - CHrome - GOOGLE - FIREFOX and Safari - NONE Worked. (I used my PC and a Mac Book) NONE worked.

What do I try now?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] richierich118:
Yes i get 404 code to and i am using firefox.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
I don't understand why everyone is having issues. I just downloaded the new full tar again, and it worked..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] eventheodds1:
hey guys i have a little issue trying to revert back to stock rom. I flashed the most recent tar through odin, and everything was sailing smoothly. Until I used kies, it said that I didn't have a stock rom in place. So i am wondering i mess up somewhere along the sets? thoughts?

-PS I'm an idiot and I'm aware of this, so please keep the langue simple thanks :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
If you're rooted, it will say that you're running modified firmware. Nothing to be alarmed about.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] eventheodds1:
Ok, awesome! Another quick thing, if i have to return it back to t-mobile for insurance purposes. How would i place the stock rom in without them ever knowing i had rooted my phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mike28:
You can always Odin back to stock, however knox will show that you modified the phone for insurance purposes knox is not an issue only for Samsung warranty situations unless you get a nosy tmobile rep which I seen
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
Yes you can use odin or kies to return the phone back to stock status.

And no you will not trip knox if you use odin or kies to return the phone back to stock. The only way you trip knox is when you install a custom recovery, non stock kernel , or a rom that is not is not from your phone.

Now if u had already tripped knox , you will not be able to reset the counter back to 0x0.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mike28:
I forgot to add that part yes recovery does Tripp knox my bad
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] eventheodds1:
so the phili touch wiz or twc would trip trip the knox?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mike28:
Yes sir
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] eventheodds1:
so just use odin and .md5 file for odin to flash rom, without tripping the knox?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mike28:
Not familiar with that sorry
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
You can actually use mobile odin to flash roms. Just use the ota/update in mobile odin to flash. Just make sure you only flash stock modded or stock roms / kernels (do not use custom kernels, you will trip knox)for your phone. And if you mess up you can use pc odin to restore back to stock and start over. It takes longer , but at least you dont trip knox. But be careful. If you flash something not for your phone you still brick it or trip knox.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] DoUevenRoot:
Will the full stock tars remove root? Need to exchange my phone and would like to go full stock

Sent from a computer masquerading as a phone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
Yes. They are completely stock.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] DoUevenRoot:
What Odin slot does it go in?

Also, can I wipe everything in twrp them reboot into download?

Sent from a computer masquerading as a phone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
Should go into AP. Wiping isn't necessary.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] witwolf:
I need HELP.

Hello All!

I am in desperate need of some help and I am hoping that perhaps someone can assist.

I am not a novice at flashing, etc and have been updating phones and tablets for years now, just fyi so you don't think I'm a noob.

I rooted my stock S5 when I first received it and have done no other mods. I took the over the air update recently to NH5 and then did the whole revert back to NE6 re-root and then upgrade the modem back to NH5.

Recently, almost all of my apps began to crash! And today, almost every app crashes.

I tried to ODIN back using the full NG4 tar but it is still happening. I don't know what I am doing wrong. Please help as I can't use my phone...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mike28:
By any chance did you factory reset while on stock rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] witwolf:
Quote:

Originally Posted by witwolf 

Hello All!

I am in desperate need of some help and I am hoping that perhaps someone can assist.

I am not a novice at flashing, etc and have been updating phones and tablets for years now, just fyi so you don't think I'm a noob.

I rooted my stock S5 when I first received it and have done no other mods. I took the over the air update recently to NH5 and then did the whole revert back to NE6 re-root and then upgrade the modem back to NH5.

Recently, almost all of my apps began to crash! And today, almost every app crashes.

I tried to ODIN back using the full NG4 tar but it is still happening. I don't know what I am doing wrong. Please help as I can't use my phone...

Hello Mike28, I did not do a factory reset. Would that be something to do? Where would I do this?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] mike28:
You will need to hold volume up then home and power at the same time when you first turn the phone on that will take you to recovery and you can factory reset from there I usually do it like that when I Odin to avoid issues
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] witwolf:
I need Help - resolved

AH, I hate to admit that I was being lazy and didn't think of doing a factory reset. But... That seems to have solved the issue. I've not done that before using ODIN but I see how it's a good practice to get into.

Thank you!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
Yes Mike is right, If you use odin, you should do a full wipe and reset, That is just with s5 and up, For some reason odin or kies no longer completely wipes the phone anymore, I noticed that when i ran into a soft brick and had to odin back to nh5 and all my info was still there. I think this has to do something with the security and or Knox crap that samsung is starting to put into their phones. One day ill bite the bullet and put a custom recovery onto my phone, just for that reason as you can actually wipe system, data and etc before you install a custom rom.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] rpolito73:
Isn't the latest NH5? This thread needs to be closed. It has been abandoned.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
Agreed. [MENTION=693309]edgarf28[/MENTION] has been keeping tabs on latest firmwares here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52210611&postcount=4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] gdmlaz:
how do you go back to stock if you are on nh5 ??? there is no full stock tar of it ??? trying to put the phone to stock before turning it to tmobile
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] crazyc78:
You will have to download it from Sammobile.com it takes a really long time but you should be able to get it from there.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] gdmlaz:
Got it here it is for anybody that needs it since I basically couldn't find it anywhere else hope it helps other people out

NH5 STOCK

https://mega.co.nz/#!F0gFFIpL!SdOFS_5OSOB6b1WUSxfVR286LgrAeDdugRRC5-G0dQ8
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] 13~BigBear~13:
Will this delete all my data? Coming from NE9 Rooted
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
Yes, it will. It wipes internal storage, too, I believe.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] 13~BigBear~13:
Just bootloader and modem doesn't correct?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
Correct.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] TheArtiszan:
That's correct

If you flash something like by bootloader only file for nh5 that is only modem and bootloader that won't make you lose anything or trip anything.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] buitruclam:
Flash NH5 bootloader and modem. Nothing happen. Still NG4
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
Turn off the phone, remove the battery for ten seconds, then put it back in and power on by holding Vol Down + Home + Power and press Volume Up at the prompt, and it'll go into download mode. Then flash the file. Might have to repeat this for the other one as well. But this is the process that works for me nearly every time.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] nostabo:
Using Kies to return to stock?

Can the Samsung Kies "Tools" "Emergency firmware recovery" be used to return a G900T to a stock rom and firmware from a custom rom?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
Yes you can. Just be warned that if you tripped knox, then even using kies will not reset knox back to 0x0.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] nostabo:
That's fine with me as long as I don't have to download the rom first from somewhere else. I had 2 T-Mobile in-store reps refuse to do warranty work on my phone since it was rooted, which they claim voids the warranty. I assume that the modem and bootloader is included in the Kies recovery process.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] galaxyuser88:
Yes kies will put your phone back to stock nh5 everything.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] stevey500:
I don't want to sound like a total newber here, but does anyone know if the Firmware-only packages include all the little things such as Camera module firmware, etc?

I do know that on my S4, I was on the OLDEST firmware, then flashed cyanogenmod and ran that for almost a year. I flashed the latest stock rom to do some edits with the diagnostics menus, I noticed that when I booted up stock rom, loading the touchwiz Camera app stated on the screen "updating camera firmware"

I know that the S5 has a bit of a cool-temperatured camera, I am wondering if samsung has adjusted/fixed this issue in any of the later firmware/stock-roms and I'll gladly flash new firmware to achieve that fix if it's been done by samsung.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] GuyInDogSuit:
It should. Though I haven't noticed a difference.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] kungzila:
Which is the latest newest modemodem?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] wolfraim:
How to find a kernel for me?

how to know the correct kernel for me?

Seeing the KERNEL part on my S5 g900m G900MUBU1ANCE it says:

3.4.0-1183950 dpi@SWDD5019 #1

Mon Mar 31 15:49:58 KST 2014

Thanks for any info.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] gspears:
The following I copied from another thread might help.