yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Supersu should be installed for root access. Leave it
[RAZR HD General] muccioli:
I do not understand how to use Philz:

How do I root with Philz?

I tink to choose the option "install .zip"? Well, Where i find the files to root?

Any tutorial?

Please

Thanks
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Dude you have supersu installed, Philz installed. Verify you have root by installing app store called root checker probably easy for you.
[RAZR HD General] douglasvbarone:
Boot into recovery, go to "Advanced Functions" - > "Re-root system (SuperSu)"

That's all. :)
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
Back to basics. After reading your few posts, it's clear you don't have a clue about what "unlocking bootloader" and "rooting" implies, and it's likely you'll never ever need what this can bring. Why do you want to do this in the first place ?
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Good assumptions.
[RAZR HD General] muccioli:
Sorry, you are wrong. I lik to see option, completely explain, because i try to decrease possible wrongs and mistakes.

Fot now thanks for your help.

Regards.
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
Yet you're still eluding the question.

Rooting means basically any apps could run a su rm -rf /. You do not want that. Yet you're trying to gain root access for your device. I ask my question again: why? What do you think rooting will bring you?

When dealing with such features, one should understand what they allow you to do, and what they are required for. Rooting shouldn't be done just so you can say "I've rooted my phone". Phone don't come as rooted in the first place, there's a reason for that. It's always risky to gain root access because you can mess up your device a whole lot more than when you're non-su. Thats why phones are provided without root access, mostly...
[RAZR HD General] muccioli:
Basically I've had root in JB. Use many applications that require root. In kitkat, yet, I can not use my external SD card to write files, I can not use the external SD card for use in transferring files via ftp and other things . I do not just mean "I have root".

Rather it had a way to make root without unlocking the bootloader, but there is not, i am wrong? If there, tell me.

Thanks
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
OK then. Sorry for being a bit harsh but your previous posts made it seem like you had actually no clue about what you were doing. (edit: for what it's worth, I still believe you do not fully understand what you're doing when inputing your fastboot commands, for example. At the very least, you should document a bit yourself on that matter, it's always good to know what's resulting of your console input!)

For locked bootloaders, the only way to root is to find an exploit. That is what previous methods were using (towelroot, motopocalypse etc..). Because the bootloader prevents you from flashing su binary to patch allow root access to end-user.

So either we have a working exploit on latest firmware version (which is not the case), either you must first unlock the bootloader so that you can do whatever you want (like apply an update.zip that contains this su binary). And since we don't have any working exploit for the latest kitkat...

So, as of today, rooting your xt925 on latest OTA is:

1) unlock bootloader using motorola online tool

2) flash a custom recovery (Philz touch, dhacker modded CWM)

3) use Chainfire's "update.zip" compliant version of SuperSU (http://download.chainfire.eu/452/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v2.02.zip) to flash from the recovery

(some recoveries like Philz include an automated su install but I don't know how it works in details)
[RAZR HD General] muccioli:
I must say I do not really have a deep understanding of these processes, but the root always did with no problem. My insistence for best explanations is precisely for this purpose. Reading a tutorial well done and well explained the chances of errors greatly reduced.

Thanks
[RAZR HD General] GuilhermeeR:
Hey, guys.

I did something very dumb and now I´m lost.

I updated my xt925 to kitkat and tried to go back to JB. Of course it is fastboot now and i can´t flash any rom to the device.

Did someone try to go back to JB? Is there a solution to my problem or i have to wait the FXZ?
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Assuming your are bootloader unlocked, you can just rsd back to JB by deleting tz and gpt lines from xml. If you are not bootloader unlocked, you must do so via Moto website. I have gone back and forth.
[RAZR HD General] GuilhermeeR:
Weird... I´m using the same JB XML I used to flash when I was in CM11, but it´s not working now with KK stock.
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
What's the error? Remove tz and gpt lines
[RAZR HD General] GuilhermeeR:
When it finishes to flash, the cell reboot and it says "Fastboot reason: sticky hit factory_fastboot"
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
I have had that error. Do a factory reset on kk. GET into fastboot, flash with rsd lite 6.1.5 or 6.1.6. I am not sure how I solved that sticky situation. Just don't overwhelm the Droid by pressing so many buttons combo. Stay clean
[RAZR HD General] djvita:
anyone know if Mexico's telcel has teh OTA ready?
[RAZR HD General] kokinator02:
No OTA yet and it doesn't seems like we're getting it this year (if any). Go download the CEE FR JB from droid developers, flash it and then receive the KK OTA, I assure you that even JB will run 3 times faster than telcel's firmware.
[RAZR HD General] neo.ank:
The RTFR/CEE OTA is the same as one by kabaldan or the updater-script or anything else is edited.?
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
[MENTION=2218140]kabaldan[/MENTION] posted the full original OTA for RTFR firmwares, which was latter edited by [MENTION=813614]Orphee[/MENTION] to be flashable by custom recoveries (he edited the updater script)
[RAZR HD General] djvita:
i'm running cm11 so i just want the KK version of the custom rom now. will look into rsdlite my way to jb back
[RAZR HD General] kokinator02:
No BldUnlock? Things are easier if you unlocked it man, unless you're still under warranty of course.
[RAZR HD General] djvita:
I unlocked the bootloader in January
[RAZR HD General] neo.ank:
I'm aware of that, just wanted to make sure the linked in the post is edited or not.

I'll d/l it anyways and see for myself.
[RAZR HD General] amedeh123:
so, how are you guys rooting stock kitkat without BL unlock?

I have only found info about the xt926, and it doesnt work for the 925
[RAZR HD General] douglasvbarone:
I can't help you, but I want to ask you and all the people who don't want to unlock the bootloader: why not?

I assume your device is already out of the guarantee period, right?!

Motorola provides a official way to do it, risk less and relatively simple.

I just want to understand, really.
[RAZR HD General] amedeh123:
My device is still under warranty. Got a new RHD recently, as my old one got stolen :(

Also the old device was unlocked and running cm..

Not much reason to keep it locked except for warranty and security (from a custom recovery you can backup everything to SD and extract data without any pin)

Usually I cant resist and end up unlocking it under warranty anyway, but id prefer not to...
[RAZR HD General] douglasvbarone:
Answered [emoji1]
[RAZR HD General] m_torresagasti:
Hi peolpe! How the new kk running?

Is it worth to upgrade? I'm running mokee OS Jb bl..
[RAZR HD General] amedeh123:
Stock KK is nice so far, only problem I found was a minor issue with audio. Audio will sometimes "click" very faintly before playing any sound, not much of an annoyance.

Its fast, especially on ART..

Id say its 100% woth it. kkbl roms also seem to be good..
[RAZR HD General] masters1222:
Nice thanks for the post
[RAZR HD General] omlet:
Very good update !

Just combined it with xposed framework, greenify. It's good for 4 days battery!
[RAZR HD General] TBueno:
Superuser

Good to know. Did you get Greenify to work rooted under Superuser? Or did you have to user some other SU app?

---------- Post added at 09:09 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 PM ----------

It is a decent ROM, but don't expect to be amazed, coming from an aftermarket ROM. And cross your fingers you don't get the crackling issue!

---------- Post added at 09:14 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:09 PM ----------

Has any ROM really shown clear benefits from running on KKbl over JBbl? I ask because CM11 apparently doesn't...
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
I haven't tried greenify yet but your 4 days of battery seem waaaaaaaay out of my league. How old is your phone ?

I recall it working ~1.5 days with "normal" usage (up to 2 full days with low usage) when I first got it, but now I hardly make it through the day. It's to the point I've purchased a new battery from Ebay thinking mine is dying (although *#*#4636#*#* says it's still in good shape)...

(note that it was already the case before, back on JB)
[RAZR HD General] Mikerhinos:
From Validus 4.4.2 JB to official KK ?

Hi all,

looks like it's pretty difficult to get the official KK update when on custom 4.4.2 rom with JBBL :s

I'm in France, and I know that my provider (SFR) released official KK update about 2 weeks ago.

I've read somewhere that to get the OTA KK upgrade I have to be on official 4.1.2, but I can't find it :(

Anyone has a good tutorial with working links ?

Thanks ! :highfive:
[RAZR HD General] kokinator02:
There you go...

Droid-developers

Enjoy!
[RAZR HD General] omlet:
Not really 4days but with normal use I've got easilly 48 hours maybe with Maxx battery it's possible.
[RAZR HD General] zimzum57:
Update from Rogers on official KK release

Can't believe that I'm the first to post this but here it is on MobileSyrup:

http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/10/03/rogers-moto-razr-hd-update-to-kitkat-coming-soon/

I gave up waiting months ago and grabbed a Nexus 5. Night and day compared to the Razr HD but I'll be happy to have a backup phone running KK should I lose my N5.

ZimZum
[RAZR HD General] djvita:
wtf im sick of waiting for america movil to finish testing this!
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
It's your call man not theirs at this point
[RAZR HD General] amedeh123:
So, just discharged it completely and it is lasting me 2 and a half days + 3h screen time + art + some apps disabled. Pretty good if you ask me.

Oh, and its a non-maxx battery
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
To you people who claim a 2+ days charge... How old is your phone ? Might have something to do with the battery, and how "in shape" it still is...

+ which app did you freeze to de-bloat? I didn't find much, aside from all the Google Play movies/music/.... things
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
2 days! I know that it isn't happening with 3g pulling, browsing, downloading, little gps and such. Yeah my XT925 is a year and half or so but still. Unless it's is on Standby I can't do 48 hours, 72....if I do full day am happy with it. CoinCoin has a good question.
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
Well I've swapped for a new battery tonight, let.s see how KK goes on a (supposedly) new oem battery...

edit: nothing better. It's definitely software, I've frozen all my apps and will re-enable them in the upcoming days to determine which one is sucking my battery.

Other than that, a stock KitKat does not drain that much. I'm around 4% per hour with a bit of browing, wifi, 4g, sms/mms, camera (50 min screen-on time ; 5h18 since unplugged)
[RAZR HD General] capedukewuhaha:
on ART my battery life is 2 days or more with about 3 hours screen on, but i like Xposed .

with a lot of gravity box tweaks and the donation version of Greenify (first App i ever bought :victory: ) i also get 35-40 hours on dalvik. Phone is about a year and always on wifi.

Google sh*** deactivated:

-everything except Play Music.

with Greenify (donation) deactivated:

-homescreen (i use google now launcher without google now)

-homescreen configuration

-street view

-smartactions

-guide me

-demo-mode

-circles

maybe one of these is doing wakelocks?
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
This is not so much about the KitKat tracking anymore... I'm preparing a thread about this issue to be posted within the next few days in Q&A.

Back to KK discussion, has any full firmware been released already?
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Not that I am aware of CoinCoin, looking forward to your new thread..
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
Don't expect much, it's more a call for help to the community that answers... However I'm trying a couple tricks before that, running a few complete cycles without any apps installed other than stock system apps, 3G only instead of 4g/3g, etc etc...
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Sounds good man,open it up and lets take this battery convo to it...:D
[RAZR HD General] omnied:
Does de retail gets kk? How it is vs fr kk?
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Kk is kk minus or plus some bloatwear, kk definitely a step up from JB.
[RAZR HD General] MrToastbrot:
What I know so far is, that the update is rolling to first users. DE definitely gets the KK OTA.

Check the forums at android-hilfe.de to check the status
[RAZR HD General] sourcebased:
Got this earlier today, works great so far:)
[RAZR HD General] MauricioBR:
No popping noise?

I got the BR OTA and it's happening on mine :(
[RAZR HD General] sourcebased:
Speaker and headphones sound fine. Will check Bluetooth tomorrow.

Looks like the camera shutter sound gets muted now when volume is set to vibrate.

I had problems with the headphone sound once that turned out to be just some grease in the jack, fortunately.
[RAZR HD General] sdato001:
No news in regards to getting complete firmwares?
[RAZR HD General] john duff:
OTA received

Hi

After waiting and waiting, fed up with the bugs, I decided to erase KitKat Soak test and to replace it with old 4.1.2 CEE RETAIL. A few problems with partition layout, but I managed to perform the downgrade with RSD, by removing from the XML file the lines that triggered errors (getvar, partition_signed and tz_signed)

After booting the official KK OTA was available. Oddly, the file in the cache folder has the same name as the current version (Blur_Version.98.21.22003.XT925.CEE-Retail.en.EU.zip) but when the update is performed, the result is KitKat as shown in the attached pictures.

I have copied the file for your enjoyment, you can download it from this link:

www.filedropper.com/blurversion982122003xt925cee-retaileneu

(copied from /cache after downloading but before performing the update)
[RAZR HD General] s27moto:
any news from official Motorola Kitkat ?
[RAZR HD General] john duff:
It seems that the OTA update I just received is the official one, and not the soak test. (Tools like Bug2go and battery monitor are not there). Did you guys receive it too ?
[RAZR HD General] s27moto:
i using 4.1.2 official without root and every day i cheek the system update but there is no :crying:
[RAZR HD General] john duff:
Maybe you can manually install the OTA update I posted from recovery ? I'm not an expert in such things, but you could get help on this forum.

Or else delete everything and reinstall 4.1.2 CEE (and possibly cheat about your country, tell your phone that you live in france) in order to get the update automatically.

For those of you who are experts: is it possible to install this update from the recovery mode, regardless of the current version?
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Yes, clearly spelled out on this thread. Check Orphée post, CoinCoin or the likes.
[RAZR HD General] s27moto:
all download link is dead
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
what are you on now? many carriers released update to kk. You can just flash JB 4.1.2 from sbf site: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=6

Blur_Version.98.21.22003.XT925.CEE-Retail.en.EU

then take the update.
[RAZR HD General] MrToastbrot:
I went back to JB Retail.en.DE because some people in Germany already got the update, but not meh.

I just need the KK Bootloader, I don't need everything else. I want to flash new KKBL CM because jbbl is too unstable for me.

Am I right, that there is still no way to just flash the KK bootloader only without the update?
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Flash cee 4.1.2 rtfr, I ll get you the link for kk update.

Dunno bout flashing kk bl only, don't think so
[RAZR HD General] MrToastbrot:
Already tried to get 4.4.2 with CEE rtfr about 2 weeks ago, but didn't get any update, so I'm sticking for Retail.en.DE and hope to get the update in the next few days...

Sad that there is no bootloader file only. Back in my HTC days it was very easy to flash each component (BL, Kernel, System, Recovery) seperately
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
u need to flash 4.1.2 cee rtfr, then falsh the update afterwards. That is what most of us did before carriers rolled their updates.

ota update post 225

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2760840&page=23

https://mega.co.nz/#!e4p0TK7C!emnx_BEyHzowOQr-fKn0LWVF2j4WjIHcgooOBk_xCh0

you will also need the update script to swap, i ll try and locate it
[RAZR HD General] sxg75:
I also have two RAZRHD in DE-Area (one O2, one Retail) which are eagerly wating for being offered the Upgrade to Kitkat (both flashed back to JB)

When I tested flashing RTFR JB some days ago I was immediatly offered System Update to KK. So maybe you simply try Kabaldans .zip with the slight modification made by Orphee.

Then you are on KK bootloader.

And then you may go ahead flashing CM11-kk-version.

BUT: I have tested both: CM11 (kk) and EU-Stock(kk). After heavily debloating (plus xposed) EU-Stock(kk)-Version it was incredibly fast. Even faster than current (1021-build) from CM11.

ALAS: I had a problem that phone was freezing sometimes during screen rotations on EU-Stock(kk). So I went back to CM11 for now.
[RAZR HD General] sxg75:
https://mega.co.nz/#!x1YmSQoI!-6OU77-xBNNFODwNOyE30kpnW1AsderimMrRBlOf3bU

German Retail Kitkat UPDATE
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
Interested in what you debloated from the French kitkat. Care to share a list of what you froze, if it had any impact on functionality, and how you debloated (I assume with TB?)
[RAZR HD General] sxg75:
Attached file is a modified updater-script. (Big thanks to Orphee whose work on CEE Retail inspired me to make this possible.) It allows flashing above German-Retail-Kitkat-Update on top of *unmodified* German-Retail-Jellybean 4.1.2 through Custom Recovery. This is ONLY for XT925 and ONLY for unmodified German Retail Jellybean 4.1.2! Unlocked Bootloader only!

* Replace the updater-script in the Update Zip. The original updater-script resides in folder META-INF\com\google\android\ within the above Kitkat-Update-zip. Copy the resulting modified update.zip to SDCard.

* Flash original Jellybean German Retail (from here) e.g. via RSDLite

* Flash Custom Recovery (Jellybean-compatible, e.g. TWRP-2.7.0.0-moto_msm8960-xhdpi.img) via fastboot

* Reboot to Recovery and flash modified Kitkat-Update-Zip.

* To gain Root again now flash KITKAT-Compatible Custom Recovery, e.g. TWRP2710-RAZR-HD_M-KITKAT.img and flash SuperSU-Zip from http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu

***DISCLAIMER All on your own risk!! Please READ before flashing anything, and only do this when you really surely know what you are doing***
[RAZR HD General] ah1n1:
Im at KK Brazilian version, updated from 4.1 Br, is there a way to safe change to this CEE version?

I had locked bootloader.
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
Yes but you need to unlock your bootloader.
[RAZR HD General] ah1n1:
I read from someone that now i couldnt unlock the bootloader because i never do it when i was in 4.1. Is this true?

If its possible could u help me to do that?

-sorry for my english its not my main lenguaje-

Thx.
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
if you have an xt 925 you can unlock it via motorola website or you can use one of the tools available on here.
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
Not sure you saw my post (#550, I thought I quoted you but I didn't). Could you share what you debloated from the stock EU KitKat, and how you did it ? I would assume Titanium Backup to freeze the apps you didn't want, but could you elaborate a bit :

- TB indeed ? or drectly removed system APKs ?

- which apps did you freeze ?

- did it impact some functionnalities ?

- What about Google craps (GNow, location settings...)

- You mention Xposed. Greenify ?

I'm still trying to hunt down the cause of many wakelocks I experience with my phone. I've got some theories right now but nothing really interesting, and I'd really like to compared with your setting if you've achieved a decent battery life!
[RAZR HD General] redguy22:
My phone got the German retail update aswell. I think it was friday. Bought at a German retail store.

Update seems smooth, camera is way quicker, though the battery life seems to suck so far.
[RAZR HD General] sxg75:
I'm busy and outside office this week so I'm going to compile my list of frozen apps till next weekend; Yes I'm using TB to freeze;

I do not need *some* of google functionality so yes I lost some but I can live with. More later.

Also I'm using greenify-, gravity-, xposed-modules.

I had some strange behavior when I was freezing motocare services. Phone felt slick and had permanent wakes. I yet have to investigate bit more. Hope to find some time during this week or at least by weekend.
[RAZR HD General] djvita:
4.4.2 on faqs

https://motorola-global-es-latam.cu...prod_answer_detail/a_id/102090/p/30,6720,8582

so anybody in movistar or telcel (not brazil) that has an ota?
[RAZR HD General] cotasa:
is this working?

have any one tried this rom?
[RAZR HD General] CoinCoin88:
I haven't but it should be no different than other previous KK releases, and the stes required to install it are exactly the same as earlier. Basically, start from a stock fresh rom from the same region, flash a custom recovery, install a modified zip OTA, and enjoy.

ROM will be the same as previous releases of Kitkat +/- local bloatware required by carriers/countries. It's been repeated many times now, but obviously upgrading before unlocking the BL (unoficially) will patch all exploits and prevent further root access. There is still the official unlock tool from moto website for that matter, however.
[RAZR HD General] bgumble:
Hi,

I already have the KK bootloader in use with CM.

Do I just have to flash the modified Kitkat-Update-Zip?

Thanks for your help.
[RAZR HD General] sxg75:
No that won't work. READ: **The above must ONLY be flashed on top of german retail stock Jellybean 4.1.2**
[RAZR HD General] Kinard:
So, I finally got the OTA update(AmericaMovil, a.k.a. Claro BR model), and now I have some question.

I never rooted the phone or unlocked the bootloader, if I want to do that, do I have to it before the update like the XT926?

If so, can I use towelroot to root or do I have to follow the guides posted here?
[RAZR HD General] JoseBerga:
Towel root doesn't work with our upgrade, moto fix the vulnerability used to gain root ...

You have to unlock your bootloader from moto page first, then install a custom recovery for kkbl and then install supersu.zip.. That's all..

Enviado desde mi RAZR HD mediante Tapatalk
[RAZR HD General] kumeipark:
Finally update available

Claro PR
[RAZR HD General] Kinard:
Anything else I should do before updating?
[RAZR HD General] JoseBerga:
Always do a backup of all your data because when you unlock your bootloader it will erase completely

Enviado desde mi RAZR HD mediante Tapatalk
[RAZR HD General] tripaX8:
In XT925 you can unlock the bootloader (using moto page) AFTER or BEFORE the update.
[RAZR HD General] kumeipark:
Very Disappointed!!!

Can't select 3G only on network mode...
[RAZR HD General] Qix84:
can you upload the firmware ??

I installed the CEE firmware via RSD LITE.

I put the update in the sd card.

I enter to the recovery to install the ota update, but it stuck.

Help me please.
[RAZR HD General] idless:
Please explain how to do it'.

I have installed 9.8.2Q-8-XT925_VQU-22_USERSIGNED_S7_UCAVANQU02NA02F.0R_LSAVNQJBRTFR_P 007_A004_CFC with ROM toolkit to go b ack to stock (no root etc.)

From here, I have entered stock recovery and then 'update via external SD' and choose the downloaded OTA zip-file.

However, after maybe 10min the update seems to fail. It will say 'install/sd card' or similar and then turn off at some point.

Thank you.
[RAZR HD General] Qix84:
I have the same problem !
[RAZR HD General] hugodefcon:
Is this leak, part of the soak test, or is it the one that france is getting?