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[Other SmartWatches] ernie346:
Please excuse 72 year old Rookie who would not dare to root his system.

My watch offers a wireless upgrade to 4.2.2 ver(10.29Mb) System Optimisation Update, which downloads but I get a red triangle as soon as it starts to install. Any thoughts?

My Software Updates state the system is up to date but the Local Update section states the latest system update has been found on the SD card. Anyone used this? Frankly I am afraid to try this update in case I end up with some Chinese OS. I also have the S8 watch with the "upgraded" software where some idiot reversed all the sensors. Left is right, the Gravity Ball floats to the top of the screen and the Compass tries to work on a vertical rather than horizontal plain. Try playing Riptide where you lean left to turn right.

It is the early Chinese version of the Z which I have - Kernel version 3.4.5, Build No Z_M2_V03. I do not mind this model as the 1GB RAM, 8Gb Storage is useful. However, the screen calibration is much better on the new version. On mine, as with the S8, the screen is compressed to each side - to register "W" you have to press the "Q" etc. I use Keemple which provide half keyboard on the screen & swipe for other half.

I have tried Swapp Link. A very ambitious App but rather complex to set up and at the time, prone to crash. Most importantly it uses a lot of battery. Phone Leash App can be used on your phone and just sends Notifications to the watch of messages and calls received your phone. Very basic but no Bluetooth range to worry about and no battery use.

I have tried "Always on" mode and was amazed to find the battery life reduced from 3 days to 3 hours. I assume the Sensors must be using a lot of power in this mode. If you can use this mode I would recommend you try the No Screen Off App. Problem with Always On screen is when it gets dark it is very hard to find your way around to turn the back-light on again. Put this icon on your Home screen and one touch and you are back in business again.

As a compromise I use the modestly titled App - Awesome On Off Smart Screen (Grandmaster Tools). This is the usual raise the watch to turn on the screen (for about 10 seconds) but it give about 15 hours battery life. Actually I paid £1.60 for the "Ultimate" version which adds a turn on/off for the App. You do not want a bright watch screen turning on in all situations. Put the icon on the Home screen and it is easy to turn the App off at night or when it is accidentally coming on. With this the battery lasts over a days normal use.

Finally I can appreciate the views of those who consider the Z (& other smart watches) a waste of time; technical progress is still required. However, if I may borrow the example, the smart watch should be considered in the terms of the dog walking on it's hind legs. It is not how well the task is performed, it is simply awesome that it does work.

Please keep up the good work
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
It's not very usefull to use this update. It is a Chinese/English (no other languages) version only and it has no Appstore.

Updating the Z without TWRP installed is not easy. You should use some keys to choose the option you want, but these keys are not there. Rooting your Z and installing TWRP is the only convenient option. But only the update to KitKat is usefull, but you have to accept the battery-level bug.

This device relies on going to deep-sleep most of the time. So every app that does otherwise (like Always On and Shake-to-Wake) reduces batterylife considerably. Don't do this.
[Other SmartWatches] xda-ulle:
My inWatch finally broken?

Hi all,

last week my wrist band fall apart. While sitting on the sofa, with no force or very quick movement treated to the watch. I remember it felt a bit more loose before when walking around at my place.

Unfortunately it broke inside the speaker part so the band strap with camera, charging pads and speaker needs to be replaceed.

See attached photos.

As one can see the whole wrist bands has its weakest point at these two white plastic thingies inside the speaker. Breaking there just seems waiting to happen. Also the rubber part for the bone conduction has dispersed through the last months, still beeing functional.

Does anybody know how to fix this? Or where to buy replacement part?

I wonder if this has better and more stable engineering with the new inWatch Z 3G from http://www.inwatchusa.com . Seems like they don't trust in this not much, as the watch is offered with a one year warranty: Except for the wrist band - it is covered for half a year only.

But anyway: inWatch Z ist still the best smart watch available for MY needs. Will it be sold from within the EU one day?

Cheers, Ulle
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Hi Ulle,

My wrist band broke some ten months ago, but on the other side, not just at its weakest point. And it broke 3 times in a row. As far as I know these bands are not for sale and very difficult to replace anyway.

According to Sam (InWatchUSA) this problem has been solved, but this has yet to be proved.

I'm using a LG watch R for half a year now and so far I'm not missing the Z at all.

Best wishes, Theo
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
You can only compare the inwatch z with others which run full android.

However I think many of us bought these watches because we were excited to be able to use all the apps we can use on our phone , on our watch. The reality is the novelty wears off after a while and all we really want is a watch that links to our phone with the ability to interact.

… having said that I love using Mobdro to watch premier league football on my watch when on the go! Kickass!
[Other SmartWatches] marco31260:
Hi all and happy new year,

Can somebody show where to buy accessories for our inwatch z, as we need a spare clip-on charger

Thanks
[Other SmartWatches] MUSHONIM:
Hey friend,

I received my z3g couple of days ago and was very disappointed.

The watch is useless with a power supply that is so small.

After around 7 hours of use and the most of them are in sleep, the battery ends.

I used greenify and and no luck.

I'm with sim and nothing installed yet and still the results are the same.

I attached a photo of battery usage. As I understand, the thing that's eating the battery is cellular radio. What is there to do against it..??

Or I misunderstood something.

CPU-spy says the value is around 50. Not 80 or 90 like you said in deepsleep.

Appreciate your help friend.
[Other SmartWatches] ramihollings:
Camera not working.

Just received my inWatchz3g from Amazon. Camera app is missing and when I try to use one from the play store they all say camera in use and to restart device. Any idea. After a full restart same thing still happens. Will be returning if inWatch USA support doesn't answer.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Sorry for the delayed answer. As I said earlier I'm not using the Z anymore. Only once and a while I watch this thread.

With a deepsleep value of 50%, 7 hours of batterylife is not surprising. You shouldn't use cellular radio for a prolonged time, unless you're able to recharge.

Reset the CPUspy counters, stop all aps and let the watch rest for an hour or two. Then you should get a deepsleep value of above 90%. If not there is definitely something wrong. Contact InwatchUSA in this instance.

The same is true if you want an extra charging clip (another post).
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
mine has suddenly stopped playing any sound or vibrating. This has now made it useless for me as the main purpose of its use was for notifications...

has anyone got any ideas how i can get the speaker/vibrate working again?
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
Need help. I use my watch/phone 4 or 5 times a week regularly and I charged it last night and when I got up this morning I turned it on and the splash screen comes on for a few seconds, blinks, shuts off and then restarts. I tried resetting it through my device manager but it comes up unavailable since the boot up screen isn't enough for gps location. Anyone have any idea on how I can get this fixed? Felt naked today just running around on my day off. Digging my phone out of my pocket other than playing games or streaming feels funny anymore.
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
Great company and even better customer service!

***UPDATE***

Contacted customer service at 9 PM on a Friday, immediately got an email trouble shooting my watch. After a few attempts, he quickly saw it was a hardware issue and gave me instructions and address of where to send back watch. Sent it out Wednesday afternoon and made them aware, received my new replacement Saturday morning. Now this is a company I will continue to do business with and refer any of my friends and family as well. Thanks again!
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
How did you contact customer service?
[Other SmartWatches] MUSHONIM:
Hi,

I need help with my z3g.

I tried to change my imei and wifi mac address for installing whatsapp.

After reboot the system stuck at the inwatch z logo and doesn't boot up.

I have a backup I made with mtk droid tools.

I tried to recover it using sp flash tool and the download to the watch succeeded but the problem haven't been solved.

Is it because the imei was changed? if so, how can I fix it?

appreciate any help..
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
inWatchusa.com under contacts or warranty section or just check your warranty card. Email them and they will contact you quickly.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Does anyone know where I can get a list of watches like this one which run the full version of android, have their own wifi card etc so I can make a decision on which one to buy next…?

Thanks in advance
[Other SmartWatches] Ripside5:
NEED HELP: My 2nd Gen. InwatchZ 3G is booting the "InWatch" logo over and over. Is this a "boot loop"? It will not finish loading and then turns off and does it again and again.

I charged it the other night and forgot to take off the charger and left it connected for more than 7 hours. Now it won't boot and it will NOT connect to Windows 10 or Windows 7. It won't let me install drivers for it. It makes the USB connect/disconnect sound over and over. I have downloaded SDK and SP_Flash_Tool_v5.1524.00.000 but I need a "scatter file". I NEED HELP. (I really never did this before...my thing is HTML, CSS, JAVA, JavaScript...etc..) THANKS!
[Other SmartWatches] Bryan0588:
Following- I have the exact problem with my Z. But I haven't found any fix. I'll let you know if I figure out.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
anyone got a list of new watches currently running full android so i can make a decision?
[Other SmartWatches] Bryan0588:
Look for the Z8, S8 and the Omate. Don't get this crap like I did. At the end of the day they all the same.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
LOL. 10 Omate TS' later and the Z worked better than all of them. 9 of the 10 Omates never worked right form day one.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Great… now I am well confused!
[Other SmartWatches] ThePurpleK:
Take Lokifish's word. He's been working with full Android watches for a while now.
[Other SmartWatches] nk33:
Yes but I have a Z and its useless now. How can I justify buying another one after first having major battery issues, then the vibration suddenly stops working???
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
It's a risk when dealing with Chinese smartwatches. The D5/K8 Mini is one of the better ones when it comes to QC, and even it has defective watches showing up from time to time.
[Other SmartWatches] Bryan0588:
Hey look what I have.

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InWatchUSA -We are working on getting you a fix stay tuned.

Me-Thanks

InWatchUSA-I have the team finalizing the steps. It is a little complicated but will get you back up and running

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I guess they trying to something but... (meh) It's been already two weeks with this problem. :eek:
[Other SmartWatches] MUSHONIM:
Thanks for the information..

Where did you have the conversation with them? On your email?

What kind of solutions do you think they offer?
[Other SmartWatches] Bryan0588:
Face Book - InWatch USA
[Other SmartWatches] AhmedEzzat:
Hard bricked inwatch z

Please help

I asked for help from the inwatchusa but they couldn't help me, i changed the font using font changer from the Google play for my rooted inwatch z but the watch restarted and the inwatch logo lasts forever and i can't read my watch on the computer only can read the memory drive but can't open it, so the device is hard bricked, i can't boot into recovery or fastboot modes because no volume keys and the adb can't see it.

Is there are any way to access the recovery or any way to boot from external usb storage as otg?

This is the conversation between me and inwatch us team:

-(I have a problem

I changed the font using font changer and the os restarted and never start and the inwatch starting logo lasts forever.

Computer can't read the device and i can't use the flash tool or the mtk tool or even kingroot to wipe or restore rom.

I can't enter the fastboot mode to reset the phone because no volume keys.

I am stuck and i can't find a way out.

Is there a recovery touch enabled or any way out?)

-(We are working on gett a fix stay tuned.)

-(Ok waiting for help thanks)

-(Steps are being finalized, a bit complicated but it should work)

-(Excellent work

I can understand)

-(Any news)

-(Yes, tool built. I am downloading it from the Chinese team and rehosting it stateside. Should be done tomorrow)

-(Great

I hope this can bring my watch to my hand again)

-(According to my knowledge

Because the computer can't read the device and can't enter the fastboot mode or download mode because no volume keys so the device considered Hard Bricked so i don't expect the Chinese team to build a tool while the tool can't access the phone to make any changes.

The only way out is to boot from external memory and connected through a flash memory or an OTG connected to the clip to control the phone.

What do you think?

And how can this be done?)

Last reply was 1 month ago

Any one can help me in that case?
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
The site of Inwatch USA says: Inwatch Z is no longer available.

So I guess it is: Inwatch Z over and out.
[Other SmartWatches] wmandel:
need help with inclub app and pairing to inwatch z

downloaded the inclub app no problem. connected the watch via my bluetooth settings on my android galaxy 5 phone. after installed the inclub app on phone it prompts to connect it to watch, when it searches, i get a picture of the watch, but next to it it says "apple TV" ! when i try to connect it gives me a password to connect to apple TV. when i hit ok it says the password is incorrect, so i cant get the watch connected to the inclub app. i downloaded gmail from playstore so i get my mail on the watch, but i cant get messages without the inclub app. ive deleted and re-downloaded the inclub app on the phone about 4 times and nothings changed. anyone can offer me any help???
[Other SmartWatches] jeffmplsmn:
This weekend I pulled out the inWatchz 3G for the first time in a month or two. I decided to reset the watch as I experimented with a lot of apps. I then reinstalled my essentials and the thing was working better than ever. For two days. This morning I am now experiencing the boot loop that others have mentioned earlier. It just flashes the inWatch logo and then repeats. I see on their Facebook page they officially ceased US operations August 31. So much for a one year warranty. I'll take my $60 Blu R1 HD with me now when I'm out and about and don't want to carry my expensive phone.
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
YouTube "smartwatch tips and tricks". He has nice unboxing and tutorials. If you decide to by an in watch Z 3G I can sell you mine.
[Other SmartWatches] lasantaloans:
Trolls and Poor Customer Service as Before

So I get a FB message from the inWatch troll asking if I would like to purchase a "new" version of the inWatch z for $175 and I said no. He then asked if I would like to purchase it for $99 and I again said no. It got ugly and it just shows you that although they were bought out they still can care less for their customers. I am going to put up the whole conversation on here so we can all see how stupid they think we are as customers.

[IMG="The Professional inWatch FB Troll"]https://goo.gl/photos/dse8EM9zeCsEXs8F9[/IMG]

---------- Post added at 04:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:21 AM ----------

YouTube. There are dozens. Square, round, running 5.1- 6.0. Smartwatch Tics has a good channel.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Another failed project, like 99% of the smartwatch projects. Who suffers the most the buyers!

I moved towards mechanical watches, very stable ;)
[Other SmartWatches] waterfoul:
Are there any more of these beta devices available? I haven't worked on android roms much but I used the crud out of my galaxy gear (the android one) before it died. It left a bit to be desired and I'm hoping this watch fits the bill. I usually run custom roms anyway so I am familiar with the perils of running a not-so-stable rom. I would try the indegogo campaign but it's down
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
inWatch display comparison. (not completely accurate as the inWatch is having issues from the immersion test, will not go past minimum, and the TrueSmart is dead)
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
Hi, what is the latest OS version on this device?
[Other SmartWatches] rmgold:
This is very cool Lokifish!, I just received one from Shenzhen, nice build... would like to not brick it like the I did my 309 ;)

what's the best way get root and gapps on it?

Also noticed it reports itself to be an HTC Hero H2000 on the USB bus, unfortunately, this confused my linux USB driver so I can't adb, I assume this is not a problem on Windows.

Edit: bus errors were due to sticky pin spring in the USB "clamp", I cleaned that out with vinegar and tea tree oil and now more or less get a stable connection.

I was able to enable developer options by tapping several times on the settings info as usual. ADB woohoo!

A tool for root was easy to find for MTK, also needed to install a touch recovery since there is no volume rocker, then installed gapps zip for Android 4.2.2,

Let me save somebody some time! REMOVE OneTimeInitializer.apk and SetupWizard.apk! Otherwise, you'll get this annoying "Welcome" and be soft bricked there, since the "OK" button was hard coded to dimensions greater than the screen size. Ugh.

Fortunately, the root enabled read/write on /system/app so just remove the apk's, wipe cache, reboot.

Lo and behold, all gapps seem to work, voice search, play store, google+ photo sync.

If you installed SWApp Link, force close it while entering your credentials in adding your google account from settings, it crashed and restarted in the background repeatedly for me making any text entry impossible.

Afterwards, all ok :)
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
This is exciting! Seeing google play active on Z would be SO cool!

I am busy setting up our next big push and I wanted to take a moment to thank this community for providing feedback that is already being rolled into the product and making it better. There are people that have contacted me about getting a given piece of functionality, navigation method, or app included in the new version of the firmware that will ship on Z in the USA. Almost without exception, these suggestions have been on point, future-oriented and elegant. Truly, you folks at XDA have been welcoming and knowledgeable, critical for the right reasons and willing to engage. Thanks, it really means a lot. Building things is hard but harder still is guessing what people want you to build. This, what happens here, helps.

Can I ask a wish list of the group? We have talked a lot about hardware but what do you want to see in an OS? We are talking a perfect world here, what would we take from where and what would be made new that doesn't (or can't) exist? I don't want to derail the rooting conversation, just pose this question along side it...
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
[MENTION=513747]iraqigeek[/MENTION]

Good to see you on the Z. It seems like most of the concerns you expressed are the same as what I've given them. I think overall, how the device is interacted with needs to move away from "tiny phone on your wrist" and more towards a "watch that just happens to be an Android device". This is something I have yet to see and as a result many of the same concerns keep coming up.

EDIT;

Would like to suggest shorter timeouts. 3 or 5 sec timeout is fine for that quick glance folks are accustomed to when looking at a watch and would also save a bit more battery.
[Other SmartWatches] mattjenkins126:
always on display

hi just wondered if I could clarify something. Has this an always on display??
[Other SmartWatches] mattjenkins126:
always on display

I read your blog stating that the Z has an always on display if required. Have you tested it for battery usage yet, just curious. Also I am really keen on buying the black and brushed metal finish but can't find it anywhere. Do you know where I could get one? Many thanks
[Other SmartWatches] p0l0us:
3G Europe 2100Mhz

Hi really want this watches, but I live in Europe. So I'm wondering if 2100Mhz for 3G is real future or just a dream/plan ? If its real, is there some date of release ? thanks
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
Aliexpress has it but it seems chinese version and doesn't have 3g(2100) support.

I also want one of this watch.

This one http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Hot-Sale-inWatch-Z-1-63-Android-4-2-Smart-Russian-Watch-Phone-Dual-Core-Single/1919217279.html
[Other SmartWatches] PrDubis:
Hi there

It's for sale on dinodirect.

What's the difference between Chinese and Western version? How can we distinguish them?

The official site says the watch supports 3G...

Thanks for your help.
[Other SmartWatches] PrDubis:
I've received my inWatch Z from dinodirect two days ago.

It came with a different firmware as it supports all languages and GUI is a bit different.

I guess I messed it up as I flashed it with the latest Chinese firmware thinking it would support all languages and European broadband but now it is just English or Chinese and I can't use the phone anymore (receive or emit calls).

Anyone knows where to get the original firmware my watch came with, or better the firmware from the Z on the official website?
[Other SmartWatches] cloud206:
hi guys

I want to use my inwatch only as smartwatch pairing to android smartphone.

is there an english app to use it?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
SWApp Link
[Other SmartWatches] cloud206:
Swapp link?
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
https://www.google.com/search?q=Swa...61l3j69i64&sourceid=chrome&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8
[Other SmartWatches] PrDubis:
Anyone interested in the multilanguage and Google Play firmware for international customers?

I can upload it.
[Other SmartWatches] far2shok:
I am interested in
[Other SmartWatches] PrDubis:
http://en.mail.qq.com/cgi-bin/ftnEx...1d415414300b&t=exs_ftn_download&code=5f065d33
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Sam (the CEO of InWatch Z US) any updates for the InWatch Z?

Gear S is released, looks stunning, but poor battery life.

As i type I'm sure Shenzhen firms are looking to clone the Gear S and some other new watches that are being announced at IFA 2014.