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[G3 General] wase4711:
Unless he has "cloned" EVERYTHING on his G2 to his G3, including services, frequency of checking accounts, and actually uses BOTH of them every minute of every day, these comparisons are meaningless..

Did he give the G3 at least 10 days for the battery to condition it self?
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
Battery conditioning itself haha will this fairy tale never die....?

As I wrote, the conditions were comparable, but believe what you want, if YOU are happy with your G3,that's everything that counts.
[G3 General] wase4711:
well, after 15 years as the director of sales for one of the largest battery charger companies in the world, I think I know a little more than you about batteries,chargers, and their various properties, but that's' not important.

what I do believe is that you can never really make any sort of accurate comparisons about battery life between 2 of the exact same phones, let alone 2 different ones.

and, judging the battery life on a new phone, just released, with no updates, tweaks, or carrier updates yet, doesn't really tell any one any thing about how THEIR battery life will be. don't you think LG tested this phone extensively, and did what they could to maximize battery life?

its up to each individual user to do what they can to either extend that or shorten that.

but hey, you know all this stuff already, so no need to go into any more detail..
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
Agree on that, but either him nor me want to wait for updates or tweaks for this phone to get acceptable battery life, so we decided to not buy/keep the G3.

But I am sure, for lots of other people the G3 will be THE smartphone.

Sidenote:

When I bought the G2, I fully charged it and got immediately nearly 8h sot, without any updates, tweaks and stuff like this.
[G3 General] Cst79:
Seriously, I think you did not read my post properly and jumped to the usual cliché conclusion "it depends on usage". I have compared my previous phones (Nexus 4 was the last) with the G2 with my type of usage. There is no "actual usage of the owner" because I was the only owner.

You can also look at the GSM Arena G2 KitKat battery graph which is 81h for G2 (best non-phablet score ever) versus 69h for the G3.
[G3 General] mwatson:
Was this with wifi on, or mobile data?
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Errr, I get what you are saying. But I wasn't referring directly to you but specially to those that wonder why they are different battery life results between different users. And also to those who are actually hoping to compare others usage to their own.

As I have said, it all depends on the actual owners. For example. With my own kind of usage I will really know how much this "new" phone last to me.
[G3 General] bobbarker2:
"It depends on usage" isn't a cliche, it's reality. And those scores that review sites give are meaningless, they were invented so the review sites had some way to make a simple number that someone with no knowledge can look at and say "Oh phone A must be better than phone B!". It's done to make the review more reader friendly and not to make the review more accurate. Artificial simulations give little data that's applicable to real world usage.

It's a brand new phone. People on the newer firmware production model report 5h screen time with 20h active on a charge with moderate usage. Some will get more, some will get less because.. IT ALL DEPENDS ON USAGE. For all intents and purposes, the battery life is the same as other devices in the same class - it's enough to get 90% of people through a day without needing to plug in.. and really with today's battery tech that's all you can ask for.
[G3 General] Jiyeon90:
How hard is it to understand that the g2 has much better battery life..

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Second best, xperia Z2 is now the king of battery life when it comes to smartphones
[G3 General] wirelessrevolution:
I worked for LG G3. THe battery won't last as long as advertised.

Our tests each component individually. Then say UPTO 6 hours oon the part that gives us the most life.

from the types of activities, software and other data from our G2 users, the phone would last 2-3 hours
[G3 General] fish1228:
2800mAH

iT IS 2800MAH,and i can use it for two days,but i have used two batteries this year.
[G3 General] poczynek:
Who gives a crap about the g2 if it lasts longer? As long as it lasts a day - which it does - then you just recharge. Any anyone who wants 9 hours sot in a single day needs to get out of the house more.
[G3 General] Lostatsea23:
Lol right!

The battery will improve with software updates.

Obviously the g2 will get better battery life its common sense!

But the g3 can become real close with software improvements and that 801 chip helps.
[G3 General] rushless:
True it does depend on your use. Due to the big battery and display throttling, light to medium users should see good battery life. The problem is how people expect battery life to be good with heavy use with the same chipset as other devices that have smaller, 1080p displays. All reviews testing heavy use clearly show two hours less, but that is continuous non stop use. The G3 is significantly less battery life than the G2 and S5. How could it not?

Also throw in one person's heavy use is another's light or medium use, good luck getting consensus. On one side you have happy users who from their perspective are happy and that is what matters. The problem is people read the posts and see some videos of people stating amazing battery life and might be mislead. Purchases with return policies are the best insurance if not happy.
[G3 General] lunarken:
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the above is with 4g gaming, music listening, some sms, wifi on, 5min call.
[G3 General] Lostatsea23:
post screen on time?
[G3 General] jeyd02:
I don't have to try to understand. I know for a fact that LG G2's battery is better. It is a given... Not saying LG G3 Battery is bad either.

Maybe you didn't comprehend my post...
[G3 General] poczynek:
It is better but who cares? G3's battery is acceptable to get a day's use. The rest doesn't matter.
[G3 General] vyklos:
Let it settle a few cicles

Enviado desde mi LG-D855
[G3 General] The-Nazgul:
For me, it does matter. I am a heavy user. I get about 4 hours of screen on time for my nexus 5 and was really interested in buying the G3 because I read so much about G2's great battery life! Now I have to reconsider purchasing it, at least I ll wait a few more weeks until the first software updates have kicked in and there is better proof of its actual SOT.
[G3 General] Pheno.menon:
The amount of whining in this thread is unbelievable. Go out there, buy the phone, and decide for yourself if the battery life is acceptable! Anecdotes from other users of wildly varying battery life and usage cases won't help you as much as you think they will. For all you know the person *****ing about ****ty battery life could be a clueless noob who has everything on, maxed out, hundreds of apps installed, and no idea how to get the most out of his battery.
[G3 General] Tarzan-:
Today's stats.

Sent from G3
[G3 General] Slash8915:
How bright do you keep your screen? I always set mine to 100%, so that will give me an indicator of how my battery life will be.
[G3 General] Tarzan-:
Always 80% with no auto brightness.
[G3 General] npaladin2000:
This.
[G3 General] Rama390:
I agree with you. I'm surprised when using the G3. Used to have an S4 with a bad battery life. The G3 is much much better in terms of battery life, though it isnt as good as the G2 but gosh, battery life in the G3 is enough for the day to come back home at night and charge it...
[G3 General] dondavis007:
After about 8 cycles with the G3 I'll say it's a bit behind M8 and S5. I always have the same apps and using it the same way. I'm normally at 20% at night but with the G3 I've started to charged it because of low battery. I'm not surprised because I've counted on it, I can live with it because the screen is nice reading on :)
[G3 General] bobbarker2:
I have an S4 now and after ages of tweaking and using custom roms/kernels I've finally gotten it to do 4h of screen time in a day with moderate usage. So if the G3 is getting 5h out-of-the-box, I'm looking forward to what it will get in a few months when the software gets optimized and tweaks are available.
[G3 General] claud0902:
I can confirm with you that the G3 has a better battery life than N5, but the margin is not too big. In my use pattern, if I achieve 4.5 hours sot on my N5(wifi), I would get around 5 to 5.5 hours on the G3 in similar use.

I would say this is enough for me, as 5 hours sot is more than enough to last me a day when I am out. When I am home, I can always plugged in and do whatever heavy use I like and don't care how hot the battery would become - it is replaceable.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Also... Remember how the LG G3 has a bigger screen more pixels to push and more pixels within the screen to push as well.
[G3 General] suljo94:
i get 6h of screen on if you are playing games you shouldn't be wondering why battery life sucks on your device because everyone knows that games use the soc more than browser
[G3 General] Batfink33:
I agree with this, usually coming home at night i would have around 10% left on my N5 on the G3 I have around 15-20%. Acceptable for my use and happy I have "upgraded" my battery life from the N5.
[G3 General] IXChicharitoXI:
The Nexus 5 was known for its atrocious battery life.
[G3 General] Sensamic:
I'm getting 5 hours screen on time with 2 days total on my G2.

G3 gets 5 hours screen on time in one day.

It's a lot less, but expected with QHD.

That 5.5 screen would have been gorgeous with 1080P. Just gorgeous.
[G3 General] claud0902:
Please do not spread misleading info. The N5 belongs to 2013 and it has better and on par battery life compare with the two major android flagships of the year, the htc one m7 and the samsung galaxy s4 respectively.
[G3 General] JesseMT4G:
I don't know how people are getting 8-9 hours SoT with the g2. I have a Flex and most I got out of this phone is 7 hours, with most everything turned off. Turning Google now on, location services with everything syncing and my usage which is extremely heavy, I usually get 5 hours SoT.

Also my wife and stepdaughter both use g2's and never come close to 7/8 hours SoT. Generally 4-5 depending. They are no where near as heavy as me though.

G2 is a great phone. G3 should be just as good if not better.
[G3 General] rushless:
Battery life is too subjective. One persons heavy use is another's light use. Factor in network, device settings, radios active, apps in background, foreground, app use, etc people are respectfully kidding themselves trying to equate. Your own device experience is key for comparison.

Key on any device is gpu use and display settings. The more the merrier as far as battery drain acceleration.
[G3 General] radicalisto:
Finally charged to 100% earlier. Used the initial 50% that was on the battery on setup and messing around.

So far.. 2hours on battery, 60% brightness, location on, LTE Full signal, bit of Facebook, XDA app and browser. 43mins sot with 90% battery remaining. Isn't too bad for now, but will see what it's like in a few cycles. My M8 took four cycles to settle properly and get decent life.
[G3 General] IXChicharitoXI:
Screenshots would be very appreciated when you're down to 5% ?
[G3 General] saifbukhari:
Here's mine....

Its basically heavy usage on 3g n wifi no games

Only emails whatsapp fb etc all social... I'd say works for me.
[G3 General] Batfink33:
You can use the NOmone app to change the resolution to 1080p(not the DPI). It seems to work OK.
[G3 General] daleski75:
With location services on, gmail push on etc I get around 4 hours screen time and 17 hours battery life and it's pretty static right now at this level and cannot seem to get anymore out of it.
[G3 General] Cst79:
This is a problem that many people will not understand. LG was finally able to make a name for themselves by building a benchmark phone in terms of battery life. Now with the G3 many people automatically thought that they will continue the G2's tradition and were disappointed (including me, I was planning on getting a G3).

The two important points that brought LG back onto the radar of best smartphone makers were the slim bezels and great battery life. These were core features that they should not give up on.

In my opinion, the G3 should not have been launched without at least the same battery life as the G2.

Luckily, there is some kind of "G3 Prime" in the works, maybe the new Snapdragon 805 and other enhancements will bring back the great battery life.
[G3 General] 2dorr:
I don't think 805 will bring more battery. To be honest I don't understand why people are not happy with G3 battery. The chart below is from phonearena. So it's better than Note 3. Yes of course the screen will eat battery when it's on, it's normal. I was wondering the same on my former Note 3. My actual Moto G is eating less battery with screen on than Note 3 even though it has a smaller battery. I wonder why...5.7 inch vs 4.5 inch say something? Of course it will depend on the brightness level and many other things. But the standby of G3 is impressive, very impressive. I use the phone, of course, but I also keep it on the desk or in my pocket, so standby can count too.

SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE II	6h 16 min (Good)

LG G3	6h 14 min (Good)

HTC DESIRE 310	6h 13 min (Good)

HTC DESIRE 816	6h 11 min (Good)

HTC DESIRE 300	6h 10 min (Good)

OPPO R819	6h 9 min (Good)

SAMSUNG GALAXY NOTE 3	6h 8 min (Good)
[G3 General] rushless:
Correct that the 805 might not afford more battery life, since still same 28nm and display, but performance would be better. Question is would many notice? The 805 might have some better power management though to help. Case in point the S600 is the same 28nm chip family as the S800/S801, but both are significantly better with battery life than the S600.

The key is the heavier and more you play games the more all devices suck battery quickly. The issue here is not as much the chipset as the display tech. It consumes significantly more power and probably another display generation away until we see panels in Qhd that due not have to be throttled to mitigate heat and power drain.
[G3 General] Dan1909:
It's just because on the other rival flagships, you can get better battery life. So if battery life is an important factor for you, then you're bound to be disappointed that the G3 isn't as good as the competition.

It's not bad outright, it's just that there are better phones out there.
[G3 General] npaladin2000:
Their battery life is still in the top tier, it's just not the best their is. It probably would be if they stuck with a 1080p screen, but the bezels might not have been as slim in that case, since it's an older screen design.

Frankly, LG also made themselves unique with their button placement, and a lot of people are noticing that too. The battery life predates the G2: the Optimus G Pro also had top tier battery life.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Put it this way... LG G3 vs HTC m8 and galaxy s5 all running with 2k and 801, who do you think will come in top in terms of battery time. It's a feat that LG G3 is quite getting in par with HTC m8 and gs5 in battery life.
[G3 General] Tarzan-:
^ this and not to mention it has the biggest screen among all.

Sent from G3
[G3 General] bobbarker2:
Yup, exactly. People are so whiny and entitled in this thread it really boggles my mind. I guess some people just need to have something to complain about..
[G3 General] wargreymon89:
And who says what is enough? I cant think of any scenario where having more mAh is worse. It can have a huge effect having more though, lets say your avarage day you consume 45% of your 3000mAh, at the end of the day you would most likely decide to charge it since you want it to last tomorrow also, but with a 3500mAh you would have 65% left instead of 55%, then you might realize its enough to take me through the next day also and you spare your battery of being charged.

Not sure what you are trying to say about your effeciency of PSU, you think LG Chem would make worse stuck batteries than removable? Might wanna go check on the features for Optimus G then, because LG put a lot of effort into making their stuck batteries have a longer life time.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Well they do decide what's enough for their phone actually. They might receive some Feedback from consumers but they have the final say.

Do you think you can get a battery with bigger ma at the same size as the current 3000, if not wouldn't it affects the size of the phone itself. But that's just speculation.

Sometimes instead of juicing more ma Into battery, software engineers should better optimize their software for the device to actually consume less power, as well as to get rid of random leaks and whatnot. When all those are put into hard work then I don't mind more ma as it will probably be non essential for most.
[G3 General] trongnghia2411:
Come on, lG is a business and they need to make money selling extra batteries!
[G3 General] trincisor:
Great Logic !!!!!

3500mah on a what a 3.8V battery. That's like 13 wh

You know there is this battery that will power your G3 until the G4 is out.

You can find it right under the hood of the beloved car.

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What what what

Phone has a limited power source the desktop sucks power right off the mains

Pardon me but where is the comparison here
[G3 General] saveferris:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OmJstTTaP8

Any gents want to translate the results.
[G3 General] trincisor:
He talks a lot

But the gist of it is <gangam style> its a darn good phone , display is amazing, good battery at full brightness it gave me close to 8 hrs </gangam style>

So battery life should be as good if not better than G2.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Great great, these rules results are coming up nicely.

http://androidcommunity.com/our-lg-g3-battery-life-test-gives-impressive-early-results-20140531/
[G3 General] trincisor:
No useful info at that link.

No screen on time
[G3 General] malachow:
*Blah blah blah*, crappy text. Who cares about standby time?

SOT time is a lot more important.

Still waiting for piece of worth reading test.. :)
[G3 General] jeyd02:
So mean ;(.
[G3 General] MasK:
GSMarena got this device for a full review a few days back.

Still waiting for them to be done. Their batt tests are worth looking at.
[G3 General] varunkumars:
They mentioned some 3A technology which optimizes the screen and gets you the same battery as G2. I personally don't believe that it's like buying an 8 cylinder and asking for 35mpg.

I hope to be proved wrong.

Here is another test in UK with a korean model.

http://www.gizmodo.co.uk/2014/06/lg-g3-extended-impressions-a-killer-screen-killing-battery-life/
[G3 General] trincisor:
Nothing useful at the link above ^

Gizmodo didn't run any test.

They could have put it in airplane mode with WiFi on and done a browsing battery life test.
[G3 General] wargreymon89:
Im not gonna read another troll review or article from Gizmodo after the retarded article they made of G2. This is what they crapped out about what later became the phone of the year on many sites: http://gizmodo.com/lg-g2-review-a-braindead-hercules-1349343131
[G3 General] trincisor:
Thanks for that. I am removing Gizmodo from my RSS list.

That's a pretty bad review of the G2
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Thanks I'm going to quote you. ;)
[G3 General] zathus:
Well said!

Optimization and quality are half the equation. And lg makes good battery's and knows how to manage them.

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I couldn't finish reading it. They lost me right from the start. But here's the comment I left lol

God that killed it for me. I had to stop reading.. "While it’s not a premium material we’d expect from a flagship" . I'm sorry, what flagships are you referring to? M8? OK... What else?? Z2? Glass is premium? glass is cheaper than plastic, easier to scratch & brakes much easier. So clearly you weren't referring to z2. S5? Lol.. Note 3? Lol.. the Moto X+ 1 is it out yet but I'll assume it's going to be plastic. OPPO.. Plastic.. 1+1...platic. so please, tell me what premium materials your referring too..
[G3 General] trincisor:
Ya I think Gizmodo lost it ever since Apple raided their offices.

It seems they lost a bit of their integrity in the raid.
[G3 General] varunkumars:
Thanks buddy. I feel relaxed now.:)

I think it is their way of grabbing people's attention. See how they grabbed my attention.
[G3 General] anl2304:
I have never gone to gizmodo before going to your link, and I will never go there again. That review is the very definition of troll. I am glad i did not read that review before buying my G2. That guy does consumers a disservice.
[G3 General] rushless:
Reviews that actually compare the devices with same continuous on screen time leveraging the gpu and display show an average of two hours less. The big battery though offsets this if more weight with calls, music etc.

Considering most people have a mixed use of a device and not non stop Web or games, the G3 should be more than fine. Unless the throttling is disabled.
[G3 General] Pheno.menon:
I don't think so. All of my friends with the nexus 5 complain of how bad the battery life is on it. Nexus 4 was awful in that regard as well (I had one).
[G3 General] claud0902:
This is off topic but at least your information is second hand.

I have Lumia 920, N5, M7, G3. My friend has S4, iPhone 5. I can tell you by comparison, N5 stands ahead of L920, M7, iPhone 5 and on par with S4 in terms of SOT on our use pattern (browse web + email push). The G3 has about 0.5 to 1 more SOT than N5 in a full discharge circle.

So, if you don't think so, at least prove it by yourself.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
I may agree, on a second thought. Do you have the phone?
[G3 General] bobsie41:
I will be receiving my new G3 this morning :) and I was just wondering if anybody has performed any tests to determine the impact on battery life of having knock code/knock on and/or quick window case enabled?
[G3 General] LBTaylor1984:
I've had my G3 for a day, this is my second and I can tell already this has far more stamina than my nexus 5. I loved my N5 but the battery life just wasn't long enough for me. On average i would be down to 45% by the end of my work day, but if I needed my phones more than the occasional phone call and some data use it was nearer 17% at 5pm

I had the G3 on yesterday evening for 4 hours, that's using it for 4 hours. It lost 40% battery bearing in mind this is the first few charges that's already beaten the n5 which couldn't do more than 3 hours sot before it was flat. That's 40% I have another 60% before it's dead

Whether or not this is better or worse than the G2 it's better than many smartphones out there.
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
If you are coming from a Nexus 5 or Galaxy S3, every phone will have great batterylife in your eyes.
[G3 General] K_Hismoom:
I can't wait to test battery life myself with my typically light usage when I get the device next week.

Had way over 4 days of battery life on my Z2 with 2:15h screen on time.
[G3 General] crni6:
2h ago I got my G3 and first impresion...wow! But I got this little problem...how to charge phone for first time? Do I got discharge it to 0% and than charge it for 12h or something else?
[G3 General] LBTaylor1984:
You can or charge and then drain it all the way down. Being a lithium ion battery it won't make any difference to the battery, however I would drain and recharge as the handset has no battery data and will discharge oddly until it's fully recharged
[G3 General] crni6:
Iam sorry I dont understend you...Do I have to discharge it till phones turns off or I can put it at charger at 10,20% and how long need to charge?
[G3 General] LBTaylor1984:
Discharge til it turns off then charge while off til 100% then wait another 30 mins then your good to go
[G3 General] crni6:
Ok,thanks. I just been confused couse in user manual seys that charge phone at once before first use.