yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tydiamond11:
Oh that's right lol thanks :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Martinjv71:
Signed! !!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] catfishbillyhere:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kurofox23?:
Hope this works! Signed!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Signed in hopes they do something for us.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
In only 12hrs we already broke 100 signatures. Not bad, but this thread has nearly 500 views already! If you are viewing you should be signing! If for some reason you are viewing this but don't want to sign, let us know why in the forums and maybe we can change your mind. :fingers-crossed:

and remember SHARE! SHARE! SHARE!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kilroy1stcav:
Signed and shared!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pocthird:
signed eventhough i am not a galaxy s5 user its just the fact that buying a horse power phone bloated by operator and manufacturer is making me sick as the phone performs after that like a granny when crossing a road anything seems faster .
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ROMAD27:
Don't have a GS5 yet, but every interested. Signed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
Signed, shared on all my social media outlets asking friends to sign and share.

Gf signed and did same.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
Thank You! Sign&Share is what will help us exceed the 5,000 goal.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tydiamond11:
I posted this link in the normal gs5 forums in different threads :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
Word. You're absolutely right, the only way we will reach the goal is if EVERYONE shares this one all their social media, and asks friends to like and share it as well. Even if they don't have an S5.

My post on FB has like 4 shares and multiple people reportedly signed it. Yeah, 4 shares isn't a lot, but its 4 sets of people who wouldn't have seen it on my timeline, but will see it on a friend's. I've also posted it on 2 facebook groups (Oxygen and I hate apple)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Eris _2.1_2010:
Signed, even though I've got a Sprint S5.

Sent From My Galaxy S5 Far Far Away
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
They count every time someone views it, so someone like me who has viewed it 10 times take up 10 views. Doesn't go by single views.

Also shared on FB

Also, since there's a dev edition, they're just going to tell us to buy that instead if we want this freedom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
what a marvelous concept. if you'd have pm'd me or asked in the other thread I could've given you a few pointers on how to emphasize the benefits to those holding the power.

as you wrote it its still a little too entitled sounding, but still gets the point across.

again, you really want to get the point to VZW that this benefits them on the bottom line as they give two ****s about our ability to mod. and Samsung is just a third party doing what they were contracted to do by their customer.

but either way, glad you took the ball and ran with it, albeit in a slightly different direction.

and thanks for the shout out...:p
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xgerryx:
Thank you for doing this. Even if it doesn't work. Much appreciated. Signed and shared on FB.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
Feel free to PM me any changes you think may be beneficial. I took this route because droves of highly paid lawyers and financial professionals inform VZW on their bottom line. We lack the education and authority to speak to their bottom line. Writing it this way shows a desire amongst customers that is going via communal influence and not satisfying the desire of customers is bad for their bottom line. I'm trying to show instead of tell, which tends to be more effective. However as I said I will be happy to discuss it via PM and of course you are now credited in the original post.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
Okay, it looks like we will hit 200 signatures within a 24hr period. If we can maintain this momentum we will the goal in roughly 1 month!!! This is a very promising start and I thank you all for running with this. SIGN&SHARE ON!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] oka1:
From the moderator

To all in this Thread........... Stay on Topic ... personal opinions to success or the veracity of this endeavor is not need.........

............. Easy of you do not have something positive or contributing to Say

...... DO NOT POST......

As Always Post Respectfully

.....................................THANKS ........................ ~~~ oka1
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rufflez2010:
Signed... Won't buy the phone until its unlocked... M8 and its hideous UI is looking better and better every day.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] driguez:
I signed the petition, unfortunately I'm at the Verizon store right at this moment to exchange it for the M8. I really really like the S5 but been with root since the G1 since God knows when, not stopping now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] vietxnameze:
here as well..switched to htc last week and loving it :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pocthird:
for those who want to install a custom rom i guess you don't need to root your s5 as cyanogenmod installer works even with locked bootloader and without root after having cm you can flash anything u want , the thing is i'm only sure that s2 s3 s4 are supported , s5 support will come for sure the question is when ? i just wanted to give you hope if the petition fails . :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] driguez:
And its done. Good luck guys.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
Thanks guys, I'm hoping for another 200 today!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Alarand:
Hey, is it possible to combine this petition with the att one?

It seems silly two have two separate petitions unless it's not possible to address it to both carriers at this point.

For reference: ATT petition

vzw: Vzw petition

edit: or get people to sign both? The att OP pretty much copied yours so I don't think hed mind including both links in the post if it helps.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
I will happily add the att petition to the OP when I'm home from work.

It is best to keep them separate as petitions though. That way it is clear to each provider how many customers are dissatisfied.

Signatures really slowed down today guys, I am doing my part on sharing and promoting but this is definitely a group effort. Petitioning worked for the HTC Rezound and if we work hard it can work here too!!!

Remeber share on other forums and social media!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
clearly you should read more.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] detr0yt:
Lol..... Thissss^^^^^^
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dejahboi:
I noticed this petition hasn't posted in the General S5 forums. Maybe a new thread there linking to this one?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
Done!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cwendelus:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] vda0323:
Done
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I signed it. You should share this on reddit for some serious numbers and support.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
I actually have never used reddit if you can believe that haha. Would you be willing to post it or PM me some reddit 101?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I posted it here.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/26gkaa/we_need_your_help_reddit_petition_grant_galaxy_s5/

Tell me what you think, I can edit it if need be.

Edit: I updated the post because ti was down vote bombed on purpose by someone be it troll or whatever...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
It looks great. Thank you for helping! Contributions like yours are exactly what we need to reach the goal.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PuffJr2:
let's push that topic to the top of the Android subreddit in hopes of getting more signs!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I checked just now and the carriers had it down vote bombed, check it out now. It was up voted 10 times then it got bombed last night with 11 down votes exactly making it zero and one troll commented to not buy carrier phones if we want to mess with them...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
So ridiculous. I could go on and on about this but what's the point. We will just have to keep promoting it anyway we can.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
There's honestly nothing we can do to get Verizon to change their minds. They don't care about our freedom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
This discussion isn't about what you can't do. If enough people get together they can make a difference, just look at the anti-GMO movement. Until recently no one had to disclose the use of GMO products, now because of pressure from the consumers, food manufacturers are labelling their products as either having or being free of Genetically Modified Organisms. This is not a law, this is entirely because they fear losing their consumer base. Same principle, so support it or don't, I don't care, but you can't say that nothing will make a difference. If Verizon and the other companies feel the pressure from users like yourself, its sink or swim. They will grant unlock before going down the drain, guarantee it.

Edit- Yes, I realize that GMO products and Cell Phones are worlds apart. The point remains the same. If enough people sign, change will be had. And don't give me the lecture about the FDA doing anything against GMO crops... Who do you think approved the GMO's in the first place? 'Nuff said...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
This is not the place to discuss what methods won't lead to rooting our devices. This thread is strictly about how the petition can be improved or promoted. If you do not think it will work then simply don't sign it. I have had to request multiple cleanings of this thread due to negativity and off topic posts. Somebody checks out this thread and reads you ranting about how it will never work can cost signatures. Why troll this thread honestly? You would think other users would want to help and not hinder any POSSIBLE path to root.

I will request yet another cleaning. All of this off topic negativity has pushed back the posting to reddit which will surely cost up votes.

Try to keep it on message.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I just came across a post on reddit in regards to our phones and the bounty for root and I posted on the top comment about the petition...

Reddit post that I'm referring to.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/26j7yw/6_weeks_after_release_samsung_s5_vznatt_still_not/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Walter.White:
Hopefully Verizon/AT&T grants our request..if they don't we might have something to look forward to.....

Thanks to [MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION] aka Dan Rosenberg (He was the one who found Loki exploit)

https://www.blackhat.com/us-14/briefings.html#reflections-on-trusting-trustzone

We won't find out the exact details until the Black Hat 2014 conference which is in early August :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
Signed :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
[MENTION=3821456]thewebsiteisdown[/MENTION] great work! That is a good idea posting in the comments of relevant reddits.

[MENTION=3694678]putney1477[/MENTION] thanks for signing and don't forget to share on social media! :D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ted77usa:
Signed and Shared on [ATT SM-G900A] [FAQ][INDEX][ALL IN ONE] Thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52946569

☆Swyped From Venomous Droid Blue Chrome Edition☆
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PuffJr2:
Did reddit delete your post with the petition? it says removed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] weasel87:
signed.

but I do wonder why the petition is to vzw? Samsung will be the ones who have to provide the unlock method, should it maybe be aimed at them?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
It is Verizon who request to lock the phone. There are unlocked S5's so that points to the carrier requesting the lock up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
As the above user said, Verizon requests the lock and so they can request an unlock. However, the petition is being sent to Samsung as well.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
That's what I keep hearing but yet when I go to look at it here.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/26gkaa/we_need_your_help_reddit_petition_grant_galaxy_s5/

It shows for me so I think that they might have pulled some quick BS and made it look to me like it's still there but they actually removed it but hey maybe I'm wrong... Just seems like a whole lot of dirty work going on in the background in the android community lately and I... Bah...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
I clicked your link and it shows up as removed. This is insane. It is perfectly legal to petition and I see nothing in reddits policy that forbids it. Repost?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
There were no other post about it yet, I checked before hand. I re-posted it but, I had deleted the other one way before hand. It was down vote bombed the first time down to 0 all the way from 10 in a matter of minutes I'm guessing. This doesn't surprise me one bit to be honest.

Plus the fact that they're hiding it from me " my user account " as being removed says something because that's done with the admin tool that they use by choice, hiding it from my account that is. They can do it with comments as well apparently, some admin posted about it the other month in a post that I was reading comments in.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
You are misinformed

Energized from SM-G900V
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pocthird:
somebody more useful than you already explained me that usual ways were already tried without success and that there is a more expensive developer edition which is why verizon keeps its position , why didn't you try to inform me , this kind of posts just has no sense and is useless , good luck for the petition :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] McAtom:
Signed, thanks for setting this up!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rdnckreaper:
Petition

Signed and posted and will continue to repost on social media. I hope we finally get our freedom back with this Linux distro...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
Signed.. I'll gladly help ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
Thanks for the support. You can help further by sharing this on social media as well as any other forums your frequent!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
Hey Everyone,

I will no longer be promoting this petition or checking this thread. I've decided not to purchase an S5 and the truly foul attitude of nearly everyone in the S5 forum does not leave me inclined to selflessly keep it going. If anyone would like to take it over just shoot me a PM.

Edit: I wanted to explain.. a major part of this decision was due to a huge amount of abusive messages I received over this thread. I come onto this site to learn, teach the little I can, and honestly make friends. The S5 forums are not conducive to any of this and the atmosphere on this forum is a major factor on why I chose to not buy an S5.

I may reopen this thread and resume promoting the petition down the line when I cool off.

Special thanks to [MENTION=3821456]thewebsiteisdown[/MENTION] for all the help and support.

Please do NOT respond to this post in the thread.

Best of luck.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] astonmartin214:
signed and I have a S3 I just want all of them to be unlocked S3 4 5 & Note 3 I want to upgrade but I see no point when the loaders are locked
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
As much as these petitions are fun and in good sport, they do not work. Verizon doesn't care about the bottom 1% of people who hack their phones. I'd look into an HTC or maybe even the LG G3 if you want an unlocked BL. Idk if they LG will be, but I know their phones in the past don't have very secure ones as Samsung is always the top phones backed up by dev support.

Sent from my S5 using your mom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] astonmartin214:
the reason why Verzion locked the bootloaders cause people would put custom ROMS on the device then be dumb enough or someones gf call customer service asking for help then realize CS can't help cause there's a custom OS on the device
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] torr310:
Signed. The number of people who signed is much much less than I thought it would be... :(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
I think you are close with this. Locking the bootloader is all about money. First, the carriers want you to use their bloat rather than third party apps (think ISIS wallet vs. Google wallet.) Second, locking the bootloader and having Knox is an attempt to make Android phones more attractive to corporate and government buyers as they generally need as much security as they can get. And finally, similar to what you said I believe it is actually due to users attempting to put custom ROMs on their device, bricking their phone because they didn't read enough or goofed some other way, and then taking their phone back to the carrier to get a free replacement saying, "I don't know what happened" instead of taking responsibility for their own actions and buying a new phone. The carriers are done with replacing phones because people root and ROM without fully reading and understanding what they are doing. Just my theory.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] astonmartin214:
true here is the full document of the FCC & Verizon on bootloaders

http://www.droid-life.com/2012/02/29/letter-from-verizon-to-fcc-details-their-stance-on-bootloaders/

---------- Post added at 07:10 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:06 PM ----------

because you can step out on any other carrier & root & ROM only the Big Red stops you for me that's a big enough reason to leave
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bad bone:
That's a funny excuse especially when they allow you to put a "dev" edition with a unlocked boot loader on their network...

http://bit.ly/1brshoa
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] vfnewman:
Signed. I hope it helps.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
They do that to shut the rest of us up while making more money with people having to buy those at full price rather than contract price.

Sent from my S5 using your mom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bad bone:
Agreed but that just means they out right lied to the FCC ( insert inappropriate Verizon slur here).

http://bit.ly/1brshoa
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ezas:
It's about control and money. The first step is unlocking phones from the carriers. Then it starts to become your device. You but the phone where you want and sign up for the wireless service you want.

I came to this realization while thinking about how you can do anything you want with your computer. You buy your computer and sign up with the broadband carrier that you want. Our don't sign up at all of all you need is number crunching.

You buy a Windows computer, and wipe out clean and ruin Linux. Or run Linux in a virtual machine or vice versa. Mac users can do similar things. And you couldn't run your computer without root/admin level access.

I don't know the current state but at one time linksys made a wireless router that tan pure Linux for those who wanted to flash custom firmware. They realized that selling a router for any reason was a good reason.

But the trend is not in our favor. More and more devices are 'owned' by the content providers. Your smart TV comes with the apps for services that they have made a deal with, like Netflix, YouTube or whoever. Like in my case I have to shop for devices that 'support' Amazon Instant Prime.

And it's America where devices come with less features than the phone was spec'd with like the found sound chip in the S5. America, one of only a couple of counties that charge you twice for the same data (tethering). So I wouldn't hold your breath for unlocked bootloaders in the US.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
You can't really compare buying a phone from the largest company in America to buying a computer. You could compare it to having Comcast cable box and hacking it to get free direct TV NFL package and them not letting you do that.

Sent from my S5 using your mom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] djf8:
That's not even remotely the same thing. You lease a cable/sat box, you don't lease phones......well most don't. Also adding features to the hardware isn't like stealing the NFL package. That would be like if an unlocked bootloader gave you the ability to steal bandwidth since that is the service you pay monthly for.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
People steal hotspot and other paid services all the time, that's the point I was making. Computers that you buy don't offer you internet service which is why you can't compare phones and computers

Sent from my S5 using your mom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bad bone:
They do that without a unlocked boot loader or root also so your point is invalid

http://bit.ly/1brshoa
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Considering you can't make any system changes without root then no, you can't retard

Sent from my S5 using your mom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bad bone:
Interesting here you go maybe you should do some research before you jump to conclusions...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2734835

WiFi hotspot tested and working! Foxfi update 4/28

And I'm not sure if you even know what the word "retard" means I'm sorry if your ill informed maybe try Google search or the play store:rolleyes:

http://bit.ly/1brshoa
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] djf8:
Also....wifi tether is still data you've already paid for anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
This isn't real hotspot, it's foxfi which is crap and has access to private info on your phone. Maybe YOU should do the research. YOU'RE **

Sent from my S5 using your mom
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bad bone:
Reviews look good in the play store no clue maybe instead of being a troll you should do something more constructive with your time I'm old and don't gaf or maybe I'm just to slow to understand but you don't have to hack anything to use a vpn so have fun with your rant about nothing:D

http://bit.ly/1brshoa
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Keep it friendly and on topic here, or this thread will have to be closed down.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] helliciousryan:
Signed it thank you for posting this! Wife and I are on your side!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] g_ding84:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] arfaoui:
sign it

sign it to unlock it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] fixticks:
I think you should remove the https on that link, it was giving me an error until i removed it. Error below.

Secure Connection Failed

An error occurred during a connection to www.change.org. The OCSP response contains out-of-date information. (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_old_response)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] biggiesmalls657:
Signed! I also facebooked.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mefistofel666:
signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] garwynn:
Thread Cleaned

Please keep discussions to the very thin topic of the petition itself or move along.

Do otherwise and you can expect a moderator to stop by again - and next time, possibly close this thread for good.

Thank you for your time.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] nujackk:
Not trolling , really want to know. Has one of these ever worked?

I signed one before but exploit found week later so never thought about it after that.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bad bone:
Short answer yes

http://bit.ly/1brshoa
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ___takumi___:
Signing

Sent from SM-G900V /Samsung Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Nightstalk3rs:
Signed. We'll see if anything happens. I hope for the love of God it does.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xuhdev:
Signed. Wish they do good.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jsyd9:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] midskool:
Signed !! ;) (Y)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cdmills:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] crevis24:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JavaManRules-GS4:
Singed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] newmanx4:
Signed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ludeawakening:
Signed :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcarv85:
Signed
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PHiiLiZz:
Signed! 3,986 to go... Lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 1dog9:
Signed and shared
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ari3z:
signed and shared
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] stonecoldxlh:
Signed

:good: