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[G3 General] clenchtan:
I'm an average user and my battery lasts about 5 hours screen-on time.
[G3 General] Semantics:
1. You are considering buying a phablet. How manly, you'll look!

2. If you can stuff a 5.5" phone in your front pocket, I'm pretty sure you can put a tiny battery in your back pocket.

3. Maybe you wear skinny jeans, so number 1 and 2 are useless?

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Of course the vast majority of people will never need a second battery. If people require 8 hours of SoT then they have far too much time on their hands. If people DO require 8 hours of SoT, then its easily remedied by buying an extra battery pack. Think of the times people carry charging bricks, several times the size of the phone if they are going out for the day etc. It would be a horrible inconvenience to throw a 2x2 battery in a backpack, I guess. Just horribly inconvenient. Better bring the 7x4" charging brick and cables instead. Seriously, who needs 8+ hours of SoT? I get 2.5 on my Nexus 5 and I live just fine. Getting 7 without shutting anything off would be a coup for me, yet people here make it seem like its horrible battery.
[G3 General] Badouken:
Dude your kinda not being that chill to some users in this thread including myself it seems... I was just saying how I want the phone to be put out so I can personally see how good the battery life is because some people say its really good and some say its really bad ... I never said it was bad... Or good ...I also never said i needed 8 hours of on screen time... but you keep telling me and everyone how they need to stop about the battery life because we can just get an external or replacement battery...obviously for one reason or another not everyone wants to do that...this is a thread called "battery life discussion" So we are discussing battery life...idk why you are here if you dont want to talk batteey life? other people have different preferences so could you please try and be respectful?!
[G3 General] Semantics:
It was a general statement, not directed at you. The reason I quoted your post, was because you said that you would rather not carry an extra battery around, and I'm pretty sure from reading every review on the phone, that the vast majority of people who don't need to watch 10 hours of Netflix a day won't have to. Sorry that you took offense to a comment that was made in general, there is enough data out there from reviewers and people who actually own this phone to suggest that the battery is anything but awful, but you wouldn't know it from all of the pre conceived notions that people spout. You'd be hard pressed to not find me as a respectful poster, the initial quote of my post was suggesting that it's not manly to carry an extra battery, an unneccessary and useless post to suggest that it's too much of an inconvenience, unless you have a purse. I understand you feel the need to defend the denizens of XDA from the brutality that I have unleashed. I'll try and keep it at a minimum. I have been talking battery life in this thread, and I'm pretty sure that every single phone I've upgraded from had better battery life than the one I had.

Reality is this. Battery tech hasn't caught up to the fancy specs, people used to be happy with 2 hours SoT, now 7 hours of web browsing, or 10 hours of video streaming simply aren't enough. Why do people love Samsung? The removable back so they don't have to freak out like a G2 or M8 owner about what to do if the battery runs low and they aren't near a charger. The only time I'd need extra batteries is when I'm camping or hiking, etc. I have plenty of places to store it and for the purpose it would serve, it wouldn't be inconvenient.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
And some people like taking extra battery and some other don't. That's also reality.
[G3 General] wase4711:
if you cant get a "normal" full day of normal phone use with this phone/battery, then you are a really heavy user, and you should expect to need a spare battery or be near a charger at some point. The vast majority of people who buy this phone, and use it the talk/text/surf/music etc won't have any issues with 5-7 hours of SOT; if that's not enough for you, then carry a battery or be near a charger at some point..
[G3 General] rushless:
Hence, LG would have been better off putting a great 1080p display on the device so about two hours more battery life and the GPU would have breathing room. The device would get even better reviews then and less subjective battery life feedback. This device is a gpu battery hog and no way to spin it. Light to medium users should get great battery life and based on reviews from trusted sights that actually test the GPU and make note of it- heavy users will notice the difference.

The device looks GREAT and the thin bezels compliment it. The Note 3 has a 5.7" display and you can not tell pixel spacing on that from 10" away. Another advantage would have been no need for all the throttling of the device under load or when the display gets too warm and would have been on par with other newer device performance.

It is what it is though and probably no harm no foul for me, since looking likely Verizon only offers a 2/16. Considering my 32GB S4 has 4GB of free storage, a 2/16 is not an option.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
1080p is of the past, apparently.
[G3 General] bobbarker2:
Nice made-up numbers you have there.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
He is probably about right... The screen does eat quite a bit if battery life. Given with the 3A optimization for a 1080p it'll last ages.
[G3 General] Bolletjebas:
You're right there
[G3 General] rushless:
Not based on reviews that actually weighted with gpu usage it isn't.

Why wouldn't it? Even users have reported this, but depends on the users perception of heavy usage.

No different from my high res Note 2014. The display is a hog compared to 1080p.
[G3 General] 30Seconds:
This phone would barely be of mention without the QHD display. And its inclusion is not just a spec stunt, it is a great looking and extremely legible display that in my case seems to increase the device's functionality and user friendliness.

If this should happen to cost me an hour or so of battery life under heavy use situations then so be it. It's worth it, and I bought the phone expecting to take a hit somewhere to be able to use this display. I gather that the next one will have better specs, and that this is a transitional device. And no doubt most of the flagships will sport this sort of pixel density next year.

The reality in my case as a moderate user is that there has been no issue with battery life at all. No issues at all with dumping the M8 and transitioning to this device. I feel that this is probably the best phone I have ever used.

I feel that to some extent that wanting 1080p on this device is completely missing the point, barking up the wrong tree etc. This device is a hit for LG, and it will be the buzz until the new IPhones and the Note 4 become available.
[G3 General] rushless:
Of which the Note 4 has the 805, which has a gpu designed to efficiently calculate & push data to a Qhd display. As will the prime model of the g3 that sells in Korea. The 801 functions with Qhd, but at it's ceiling. The 805 is intended for these Qhd, spec chasing display monstrosities :)
[G3 General] bobbarker2:
Dude, you're just guessing at stuff aren't you? The 805 is geared towarrds UHD, not QHD. And the 801 supports higher resolutions than QHD. Do some research and stop going on guesswork and feelings.
[G3 General] turt:
Yeah I don't get all the fuss about this...

My Galaxy TabPro is spotting a Snapdragon S800 (that is soooo 2013) and Adreno 330, guess what : screen resolution is 2560x1600 and nobody is questioning Samsung for doing this !
[G3 General] Rajaasim1980:
It was mistake from LG to use such high resolution QHD screen on G3.i would not even mind if it had 720 display with great battery life and same specification and to be honest i hardly find any difference between HD and Full HD and QHD is bit too much for mobiles...Screen eat most of the juice of the battery...thats why i even get 6 hours screen on time on my z1 compact while heavy 3g/4g browsing even when it has smaller battery but because of 720 p display it go on
[G3 General] 2dorr:
Good point. I saw that too. So Samsung is smart but LG not...
[G3 General] bhtale:
Its all about the ppi. Check out the screen size. Same resolution but double screen size = half less ppi
[G3 General] turt:
Screen resolution is higher on the tab, plus a 8.4" screen is not double the size of a 5.5" screen. So ppi is not that much different.

But I don't get your point about ppi ? If anything, smaller pixels should be better ! Anandtech confirms that the 8.4" version is better than the 10.1" because of this. So 5.5" should be even better...
[G3 General] dondavis007:
I will let the G3 settle down a bit, but so far the batterylife is less than I thought. I have pretty much lag and whatever causing that is problably part of the inferior battery life.
[G3 General] dairymasta:
How the hell is anyone getting 6 hours screen on time? I've had the phone since yesterday and after 2.5 hours screen on time my battery is on 11%...I can literally see the figures dropping as I use it.

Really disappointed in the battery life to be honest...
[G3 General] dondavis007:
A battery tweak article should be nice :) I problably have around 2.5 hours sot also. I'll look I to to it tomorrow to what is causing it.
[G3 General] papaketchup:
[IMG="Battery"]https://www.dropbox.com/s/co7dflgc2lpoiq7/Screenshot_2014-06-28-02-22-51.png[/IMG]

[IMG="Battery 2"]https://www.dropbox.com/s/qgyzljxpc6u0vjs/Screenshot_2014-06-28-02-22-57.png[/IMG]
[G3 General] Canard caché:
2.5 hour??? Oo it's true?:confused:
[G3 General] poczynek:
Battery problems are almost entirely due to the user not the phone.
[G3 General] BallistaSlim:
5 hours of SOT on first charge, and I only expect it to get better.
[G3 General] Jiyeon90:
Where the screenshots at?
[G3 General] Dan1909:
Completely 100% wrong!

When it comes to the amount of work that the CPU/GPU have to do, it's only down to the number of pixels that the screen has, which is the resolution.

What size the screen is is 100% irrelevant, it's only the sheer number of pixels which matters.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
You are being objective and no, there is no mistake. One of the LG G3 keys feature is QHD display.
[G3 General] dondavis007:
I always use all my phone's exactly the same way with exactly the same apps.

Something steels my cpu cycles and mojo , I'll find out what. One thing, if you put two languages at the same time in the keyboard it lags. Lags same same as lost power and/or frustration. Reset, art and even extrem cleaning after root gives the same results.

Lag is also about perspective, for me everything laggier than HTC one, Nexus or iPhone is lag.

Do you have the European version of the phone?
[G3 General] rushless:
The 801 is operating at the top of it's ceiling pushing DATA to Qhd. The old 4470 can handle high def video playback (no data) since barely leverages the gpu. Anandtech has done a good analysis of the chipset and all reviews show weaker benchmarks than current devices when the gpu is tested pushing data to the full display resolution. The 805 is more capable with Qhd and the gpu was designed to push data to the higher resolution. The silicon at 28nm has worn out it's welcome now, so next step is 20nm with the 810.

Seems you may be presuming you know something that you might not?

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Would most these type of forums appreciate the G3 more with 1080p due to better performance and battery life (especially since the bigger display Note 3 is 1080p and looks great)? Yes, but that is not the intent of the G3. It is using a display with a chip that forces compromises, but will attract consumers like moths to a flame. I can't help it, it's sooo pretttyyy. Tribute to Bugs Life.

For heavier users that game and have a lot of screen on time, this might not be the best device fit. To most others that mainly call, text, photos and some light web and game use- battery life and performance will be fine.

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If you mean battery life is due to the user's own usage and is highly subjective to compare- agreed. Blaming a user in general verses a device seems a tad arbitrary by default. Factor in one person's perception of heavy usage might be another person light or medium makes it even more dubious.

There is enough information and benchmarks to suggest this device is great with battery life for light an medium users and then not so much for others. Still not seeing the magic to make a same 28nm chip pushing to a 5.5" Qhd that will make it have better battery life than smaller display, lower res devices. Not without a lot of compromises in performance.

Folks can believe what they want though, since THAT is what matters :) If the user is happy- that is key.
[G3 General] Dubhar:
Are there any phones that provide decent battery for battery heavy usage? I haven't found a phone that doesnt have problems. They could have used a 1080p screen, maybe it would have provided more battery life, who knows. it would actually be interesting to see exactly what drain on power the screen uses compared to a 1080p screen. But im not sure we will find that out.

Right now im on 22h running with 3h screen on time and 20% battery left, which is an enormous improvement over my Nexus 5.
[G3 General] Pilz:
This is my best screen time so far. I don't know how people say the battery life is bad.
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
Because battery life isn't really good on G3, your stats are average.
[G3 General] Henry443:
Battery life of my LG is very good.

That is 10 to 12 hours i satisfied with this.
[G3 General] Sensamic:
Not bad, but G2 could get much more (over 6 or 7 hours screen on time for many users).
[G3 General] Pilz:
I'm sure it did, but for a stock kernel and lots of LTE usage it's not bad at all. It could always be better, however, I'm happy with what it's getting so far.
[G3 General] barondebxl:
Absolutely true. And in the words of anandtech, you need a S805 for a QHD display phone if you want to have the same performance as a 1080p/adreno 330 GPU powered phone.
[G3 General] radeonxt:
used towelroot, then installed supersu.

installed wakelock detector.

screen wakelock:

supersu x10 - supersu receiver wakelock 5h 50m x1 , WindowManager 6s x7, SuperSU Prompt Wakelock 3s x2

cpu wakelock:

google search x29 - audioin 2m 16s x27 , AlarmManager x7
[G3 General] bobbarker2:
What are you talking about? 5 hours screen time and 20 hours active time of active usage is the same or better than every other phone in the same class. Get some realistic expectations.
[G3 General] IXChicharitoXI:
From the few screenshots I've seen. Most g3 users are getting about 3-4hrs of screen time with 14-16hrs of standby. I was snooping around the S5 forums and most screenshots are 4.5-5.5 of screen time with 18-24hr standby.

Of course it all varies by individuals but those seem the be the most common numbers. I don't really care about the M8 but I hear it has great battery so I wouldn't be surprised if it did better than the g3 and s5.

I want to buy this phone and I really hope more users post proof that they can at least reach 18hrs of standby and 5+ of screen time. Seeing very few people get decent stats only shows that they know how to get the most out of their battery compare to the rest.
[G3 General] bhtale:
Hey how many % did you leave on your screen brightness?
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
It's predecessor, the G2's battery life is great, getting always between 7 and 8,5 hours sot with 75 % auto-brightness, around 5 hours is average, every flagship device is doing this at least.

But to stop this, if it's great for YOU, that's everything that counts.
[G3 General] T.R.A.N.C.E.:
I'm 95% happy with the battery life, sure it could be better, but for the specs of the phone it is doing well comparatively.
[G3 General] rushless:
The G3 has a big battery and LG have taken throttle steps to mitigate the display drain for light to medium tasks. If your usage is such, the battery life should be equal or better than a previous device with a smaller battery. It is when heavy use is involved where the benchmark reviews (that were heavy with GPU use) show the battery life takes a big hit. Point being, if you are not a web and game junkie (I am), the battery life will be more than fine.

It is not uncommon for a person to think their usage is heavy, but is light or medium use for somebody else. I a more concerned about the impact of ambient temperature. All newer devices get very warm/hot in warm ambient temperatures and the display on this device apparently gets hot if you override the display throttling. Battery life takes a more profound dive as well.

Thing is I expect the 805 (prime) to be no better in the regard of battery and heat with Qhd. The 805 has a faster clock and more bandwidth for the gpu to handle Qhd more efficiently, but is still 28nm silicon and the display is still Qhd. Still should get real toasty without throttling with heavy use.
[G3 General] jeyd02:
We still don't know how it'll be.

But I'm curious... Are you getting the phone?
[G3 General] rushless:
If Verizon offer a 32GB model, I will get one and test two weeks to see if a keeper. Still think the device is a better fit for light to medium users, so would find out myself for sure (heavy user).
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Gotcha. I'm guessing you are a heavy user.
[G3 General] Lennyuk:
After three days of fantastic battery life (15 hours with 4 hours screen on, very heavy usage) my phone has today committed battery suicide. I lost 60% in just 5 hours of very light usage, cannot work out why!
[G3 General] rushless:
My usage is all over the place, but think 3/7 days is heavy and the others medium. I have little doubt that if this device released with 1080p it would probably be the best device to date. Anyone that was to say the device would not have better battery life and performance with 1080p is respectfully in pure fanboy denial, or do not understand how electronics work. Perhaps the latter is more the case...

Edit: Spec chasing sometimes sucks.

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Please check for battery hogging apps. Sometimes media server type tasks can drain and sometimes rogue apps that do not close when not on screen. Also turn the device off, remove the battery and start up again. My other Android devices have done that a few times and due to the issues noted.
[G3 General] Lennyuk:
I have been closely monitoring apps and other stats, there is absolutely nothing out of the ordinary yet it continued to drain (no root so cannot check full partial wakelock details).
[G3 General] radeonxt:
lemme guess, i think it's google search on homescreen constantly playing big brother. :)
[G3 General] jeyd02:
I think the best thing we could do is either wait or accept the specs now, really that will take all the concerns away. We can't keep contemplating into dreams that might not happen. We gotta move on...
[G3 General] nap007:
my max screen on time is only 5 hours... so it's certainly no where at the top of chart but still usable...
[G3 General] Pilz:
60% with auto birghtness
[G3 General] mcdevtingz:
I have had mine for 2 days now, and have had terrible battery life...

I only managed 2h screen on time.

This maybe because around my home signal is weak and in some rooms there is none.

Battery is hardly any better than my s3 was at the end of its 2 year life.

Poor battery is the only thing stopping this being the perfect phone so far ?
[G3 General] Pilz:
That sounds like a carrier problem not a phone one
[G3 General] mcdevtingz:
Really? My s3 had better battery life at the start.

Theres nothing i can do about the carrier problem its just where i live
[G3 General] Pilz:
I was referring to your phone anyways searching for signal which mums battery life. It's not normal for our to be that bad. There could always be another cause of it. My S3 had bad battery life, then again it could be because it was on the Verizon and my signal kept switching form 3g to LTE constantly.
[G3 General] kinnyfaifai:
Only had mine for a day or so. So far only done one full charge and i got just over 5hrs sot. Seems ave based on comments here. But i don't remember my new S3 had this from the start.

Keep in mind this is on stock kernal with no xda dev magic things will only get better.

I'm quite happy for now.
[G3 General] Jiyeon90:
People install gsam battery monitor and post stats
[G3 General] jeyd02:
No too many ppl know that.

And besides we still don't know what she services people have enabled and what program they are using it is all open ended.
[G3 General] Repsac83dk:
Nice batterylife so far

Hi all

I got my northern european model yesterday with 32GB disk and 3GB memory. The first day I started using it without having charged it, so it started at roughly 40% or so. The batterylife seemed very poor and after a few hours I was forced to charge it partially because it had gone to 10%. However after charging it over night, I unplugged the phone 9h 15m ago and I'm now at 78% battery. It estimates I have 21h 56m left on this charge. I've used the screen 1h 17m and it's responsible for 33% of the powerdrain. An application I use for speed control alerts while driving has used the GPS for about 44 minutes and that application has been responsible for 13% of the powerdrain.

Generally I consider myself a heavy user as I use wifi, bluetooth, gps and browse the web a lot during the day. I've also installed Lux for brightness and set it on auto brightness +20% as I like a bright display and the normal auto brightness even on 100% was too dark for my taste. I had problems getting my iPhone 5S to last the entire day some days when I used it a lot. I don't believe I will be having the same issue with this phone. And yes I realize my usage hasn't exactly been heavy today.

Just my 2 cents so far. I will report back in a weeks time :)
[G3 General] nap007:
regarding battery life consumed by 'screen'... does the screen powered by gpu or cpu? the reason I ask this is because using gsam widget I noticed that the cpu utilization jumped back and forth just from swiping the homescreens... so I wonder if it cpu or gpu and will there be any way to properly handle the screen in the future -I mean tweaks or such- also wondering why the utilization jumped so high for so simple of a 'task' (homescreens swipe)...

does the battery life get better with non lg launcher?
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Perhaps, who knows...
[G3 General] Dan1909:
It's both the GPU and the CPU, each has a part to play in producing what you see on the screen. As for optimising it to reduce battery life, it's always possible, but don't expect to see any major breakthroughs in this. If anything comes it would be more of a change to all of android, like what google are doing with the L release.

As for the battery life with a different launcher, it would be very surprising to get a large increase just by changing the default launcher.
[G3 General] Cst79:
Yes, the LG G2. Mine lasts 48 hours on one charge whereas my previous phones lasted barely 12-14 hours with my type of usage.
[G3 General] varunkumars:
+1
[G3 General] jeyd02:
Doesn't matter, it still depends on the actual usage of the owner. Different factors, different variables, inconsistent results. Even having the same phone but different radio location the battery will be different.

Different, different!!!!!. Srsly. How hard is it.?
[G3 General] mcdevtingz:
Anyone know an app which i could use to see whats causing this? Better battery stats needs a rooted phone
[G3 General] Fir3blade:
And what about if you have a G2 and a G3 the same time, as a friend of mine does?

With comparable usage he is getting about 4,5h sot on his G3, and 7-8h with the G2.

G3 is getting back tomorrow...