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[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
inWatch Z - available in China. http://www.inwatch.cc/ not sure how much, Google translate won't work on all the pages.

Its on indiegogo, they want to raise funds for the 'western UI and cloud services', retails for $299. If you want to take a risk (release date Nov) its $199 for early backers ...however they seldom deliver on time and with the LG watch and Moto 360 coming soon, its even more risky to back it.

Similar specs as the Omate but with 'transflective' display so you get more battery life apprently, that's the only reason its interesting.

Made in Shenzhen, I've tried to search for it on Alibaba but can't find it. Anyone find the unit please do let us know. :good:
[Other SmartWatches] arovaris:
Yes, its the best smartwatch! Look in aliexpress, its about $300-400.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
[MENTION=327190]arovaris[/MENTION] - what's it called in aliexpress? Can you provide links pls?

I mean the sensors are amazing too ... as well as the battery life. But I need to know for sure that the battery life is roughly around 7 days.
[Other SmartWatches] arovaris:
In aliexpress search for "inwatch z", will see many sellers.

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014...-dual-core-1-2ghz-single-card/1745492301.html

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/2014...-dual-core-1-2ghz-single-card/1714259584.html

But is so expensive...
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Spec' Check...

Its says 2MP camera on Aliexpress. $321 is pricey, if they could guarantee (which they can't) that the spec's are as they claim on indigogo site also that everything will work like how an Apple products does ... mostly, then I would buy it.

Notice on their indigogo site they are comparing their screen with a Gear's screen, however they not showing the same image, for the Gear they are showing an icon with a black background.

Just spotted the specs' on their http://www.inwatchz.com - they slightly differ to their indiegogo site. So i've emailed them for following:

The information on your indiegogo website and on www.inwatchz.com is not consistent. Could you kindly confirm the following please:

1. What are the dimensions of the watch?

2. Can you confirm that the watch's screen is made from Sapphire Crystal or is the screen coated with Sapphire Crystal?

3. Is the watch IP67, as in, 6 = 'Complete protection of dust' and 7 = 'Protection against temporary immersion between 15cm and 1m for 30 minutes'?

4. The camera is actually 5MP and not 3MP with software Interpolation to make it 5MP?

5. The standby time is 7 days?

6. It has 9-Axis Sensor, idle gravity, terrestrial magnatism, gyroscopic sensors?

7. Does it have voice control or not, one site says yes and one sites says no?

8. The delivery date is definitely in 2014?

9. Is the battery removable

10. Are there screws to remove the battery?

11. What is the mAh of the battery?

Regards.

.......

This one is $126 - but who knows what you're getting. :)
[Other SmartWatches] shuzzle:
Below are specs from local Chinese websites

No info

It's just said it's Sapphire

IP57 (splashes)

It's said 5MP, no additional info

No info

Gyro and gravity sensors

No. It has only Power and Reset buttons.

It's already on sale here in China, it's sold about 300$ here

No info

500 mAh
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Thanks shuzzle.

They are asking for money based on the info they have given on their indiegogo site. But its inconsistent compared to the china and US websites.

If they don't reply to my questions I might email indiegogo to ask inWatch Z to clarify their info on indiegogo so people can make an informed decision.

This inWatch Z for $221 http://m.aliexpress.com/item/1836380241.html#description is the info in Chinese same as the inWatchZ Chinese website?
[Other SmartWatches] arovaris:
Dont buy from this seller. Dont have high score, and sell all products cheap. Its bad. Buy only from high score sellers. This watch cost about 300-400.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Thx. Will look for high score seller for the inWatchZ. Let me know if you find one too please.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Reply from CEO InWatch Z USA

I received a reply from the CEO of InWatchZ USA ...
[Other SmartWatches] gordon1hd1:
Interesting.

I think the watch looks interesting, and the design seem like it is pretty fashionable also.

However a couple things I notice:

1) On the indigogo website, it list the watch as being 3G, however based on the chinese website and all the youtube reviews. The current version is only 2G (EDGE), that take a full size sim card. So unless they planning to make a new version of the watch, I think buyers/pledges should be aware.

2) Also based on youtube review sites, and the Chinese website, it list the watch coming with Badu app store, instead of Google Play store and services. So for people who are thinking about using the watch with google store/services, this might be a big problem.

Still interesting looking watch, for people who doesn't mind the 2 above problems.
[Other SmartWatches] cylent:
dont like the placement of the camera. too obvious and it freaks people out.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
Google Play Store

I can confirm it is 2G (to save power maybe)

And it HAS Google play Store.
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
InWatch Z - Annoucement :highfive:

If anyone wants to test, hack and send ideas to the InWatch Z dev team they can get a unit ASAP (I'll confirm the date, a batch is in transit to the CEO and he needs to check it before sending it to you) but you need to back it ($199) it will be without the graving, because it takes too long.

The software is still in the development stage, you get a report of the known issues, but the hardware is as the spec's.

Let me know if you want more info' or want one. Not sure about the colours yet. :o
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
i wouldn't mind testing one

i do however wish they would drop the camera, i don't feel the need for one and it messes up the design of an otherwise pretty good looking smartwatch
[Other SmartWatches] simple1i:
@ JarlSX - I'll pm you the details.

Do you (or anyone) know what are:

idle gravity,

terrestrial magnatism,

gyroscopic sensor
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
well, the 2nd one is probably a compass (magnetism)

the 3rd one a gyro sensor, to measure movement

idle gravity, you guess is as good as mine, also movement sensor?

i've sent Sam a mail, thanks for the info
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
To clarify you are talking about backing without a perk, correct?

Also with regards to the device and IGG campaign, I'm guess that if you do not reach goal this will delay the intended release date. You or your team have said elsewhere the device will be released even with full IGG funding? Is this correct?

There is a question about specs for 3G. In the U.S. 1900MHz is the most common and 2100MHz is not used. Will their be different models or will it support both? That being said, if the final product matches what's being marketed then you have a very nice device.

Sorry if I seem skeptic about some things but considering my experiences over the past ten months with funded smartwatches it's hard to not be. That being said, if the final product matches what's being marketed then you have a very nice device in the works.
[Other SmartWatches] JarlSX:
i'll reply here, as the info given here is the same as sent by email

with my experience with funding projects like HOT Watch and Kreyos Meteor, i will not back another crowdfunding project

the perk here is, you get a watch now, no waiting for IGG

but you pay full price, no matter if the IGG project reaches it's target

on top of that, the software isn't finished and if this watch doesn't attract users and developers, it will be dead in the water

i'm willing to give input, based on my experience with smartwatches so far, but that's where i draw the line, sorry
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
kuronosan had a semifunctional TWRP build for the inWatch months back before we stopped releasing on xda. You need to use the reduced graphics from the x201 TWRP release and remove a few features.
[Other SmartWatches] perpe:
I will try it, if kernel building bores me ;)

About Standby Mode: in my opinion the Inwatch-z has a to high min. CPU frequency, it is set to 598mhz, lowering it with a custom kernel should give us a better battery usage. How high is the min frquency on the x201?

Display: The Inwatch-Z's min brightness is set to 30% this is too high for a transfectiv display, I lowered to 1 with gravity box.
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
598 is the min. The inWatch also has an issue that even if you set it with an app to "screen off=598max" it will ignore it. It even ignores it if it's set via init.d.

I did the same brightness fix but at a framework level. Like the x201, there is so much unfinished/untuned stuff it's not funny. All the 6577 and 6572 smartwatches seem to be that way.
[Other SmartWatches] perpe:
I know, the device sets the frequency to 1001mhz and disables dvfs on sleep :( Haven't found the reason yet.

[MENTION=3795702]Lokifish Marz[/MENTION]

I found a solution. You can build a script with this commands, adjust the parameters for your script:

echo "598000" > /proc/cpufreq/cpufreq_cur_freq #sets the cpu freq to 598mhz, works in sleep mode, too
echo "0" > /proc/cpufreq/cpufreq_cur_freq # is needed to enable dynamic cpu scaling, if it was changed with the above command

echo "1" > /proc/cpufreq/cpufreq_state #enables dvfs (cpu scaling) 0 disables it, with this you can enable dyncamic cpu scaling even in sleep mode
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
My inwatch Z has died as well

Yes, I can't seem able to charge my inwatch Z. Each time I push the power button I do see a blue screen flash very quickly only nothing happens after that. I do not know if there is a reset option. There is a little hole next to the power button, not sure what that is for. I thought it was the microphone. Other than that there is only the sim card slot. Anyone any idea how to reset the inwatch Z. Thank you:)
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
That blue flash is it trying to turn on with a dead battery. Connect the charging clip and leave it on the charger for about 24hours and see what happens.

There is no reset button and with a dead battery it wouldn't do any good anyway.
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
trying to charge it for the last 2 days

Thank you for your advice:good:. That is exactly what I have been trying to do for the last 2 days. Normally when I click that little clip onto the band a green round light comes on showing me it has started to charge. I found the watch still flat after the first day of charging. Thinking I didn't connect it correctly I gave it another go, but noticed that that green light did not appear. Again next day phone did not start up after pushing the power button. Tried another charging plug in another wall socket, but so far all without any succes. If there is not reset option, next thing I can try is to buy another charging cable and see if the problem is with that. Guess it will not be easy to buy a new clip to check if the problem lies with that? Any other ideas? Thank you:confused:
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
You can check the voltage on the charging clip if you have a voltmeter. With the charging clip not connected to the watch and the USB cable connected (both ends) the voltage should read 5Volts. Normally an USB connection uses only 4 of the 5 pins. One of the outer pins is mostly not connected or tied to its neighbouring pin (GND). The other outer pin is the 5 Volts pin. If the voltage is OK, try cleaning the 5 connecting points in the wristband. Use a cotton swab for this and if needed some alcohol (be carefull). If this doesn't help try to find your warranty card.
[Other SmartWatches] perpe:
It needs a little exercise to get the connect mounted right. At the beginning I had some problems sometimes. Make sure that only a llittle gap (less than 1mm) is between the camera and the conenctor.

If you need a new connector, you can order one at http://www.aliexpress.com/store/pro...tch-Z-Watch-Cell-Phone/409541_2039261541.html
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
Excellent

Thank you very much for your excellent advice. :good: My husband did a volt reading and it reads 2.8 obviously not 5. Anything we can do to improve this or do we have to order a new charging clip? Again, thank you for your time and effort to help us out. Appriciated :laugh:
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
This is most likely the charger. Are you (like me) using a seperate charger or one of the USB ports of a computer? Both can be faulty. Try using a different USB port (or better still a different computer). Or use another charger. It is most likely not the charging clip nor the USB cable.
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
difficult to connect charging clip
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
Update

I charge it from a wall socket....we tried using another plug and another socket point, just to be sure. And we managed to get a 5 volt reading, but with great difficulty. We have the phone charging as we speak but any small movement makes it stop. We can see that because the plug has a light that changes red when charging and blue when not, or when charging has completed. This would suggest that there is a lose contact in the usb cable or in the charger clip does it not? Thank you for reading my post. Appriciated.

The watch is now fully charged. I am going to order a new charging clip and usb cable. Thank you both for helping me out here.:good:
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Can anyone please try to explain how to install updates on the InWatch? So far I received 2 of these. But if I try to install the device reboots and I should use the +, - and Enter keys which aren't there. So the system fails to install the update. Please help.
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
same here

Yeap same "problem" here.

I also have another problem now, the microphone is no longer working. phone works fine on other fronts but when calling the other can't hear me no longer. I installed Zello, which is a walkie talkie application to test the microphone, and again we can see that the transmission takes place, but no voice is heard on the receiving end. I remember someone else having the same problem, but can't remember where I have seen that or how it was sorted.
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Have you tried to mute/unmute the microphone (the upper right icon in the phone menu)? Else see if recording works.
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
checked if sound was on, it was

Hello, thank you for your reply. I checked the settings, it was unmute. Than I tried to record something as you suggested. When playing back the recording all that I can hear is white noise.

Thank you,
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
Thanks everybody for helping me with the updates.:(
[Other SmartWatches] Lokifish Marz:
Make sure you have a folder called "inwatchupdate" on the Z

Make sure the is an update.zip in the inwatchupdate folder

Go to "Settings"

Go to "About Phone"

Go to "Local Update"

Select "Install"

Follow the onscreen instructions

Device will reboot, leave it alone

The update will finish

Device will reboot again

Done
[Other SmartWatches] Zormal:
Anyone have a working touch recovery (TWRP preferred, actually) for this?
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
Hi, does anyone know where to get Android 4.4.x firmware?

According to this review http://www.redferret.net/?p=47136 his device has it.
[Other SmartWatches] hackerse7en:
does this watch have FM RADIO?

some manufacturers say yes some other say hat dont have...

Can a real user confirm ? Thanks :D
[Other SmartWatches] far2shok:
My inwatch Z have no fm radio
[Other SmartWatches] PrDubis:
No FM radio

And no Kit kat
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I don't know if you'll read this message, but I'll try anyway. I had a somewhat similar problem after the watch switched off due to an empty battery. My watch used to beep and vibrate if an e-mail was received, but after the switch-off this wasn't working anymore.. All settings were still correct though.

I solved this problem by changing some settings and then change them back to the correct settings. Then rebooted the watch and check. After several tries it worked again! I have no idea which changes made it work again, but it worked. I agree the watch shouldn't behave like this, but maybe something like this helps solving your problem too. No guaranties though.
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
You bet I read your reply

Thank you very much. So happy to finally see something I could try out. I have been in contact with the seller for almost 1 month now, without ANY result. Bad service so far. I am going to give it a go. Yes, just like you it appeared after a total emptying of the battery. Fingers crossed. I will keep you informed in the hope others might find this solution helpful. Again, thank you very much. appreciated.

Update: tried changing settings, turned phone of and on several times but with no result. To bad. The seller does not show much sign of being willing to help out. Watch is only 4 month's old of which it does not work properly for 1......hmmmm pretty expensive buy so far. grrrrrr
[Other SmartWatches] Theo de Kok:
I bought my watch from Chinavasion and their aftersales is wonderful. They are a bit more expensive, but it's certainly worth the extra money in the event you need it.
[Other SmartWatches] ahiranta:
Bad sellers service

We bought ours from : Shenzhen CunLing Technology Co., Ltd. I DO NOT RECOMMEND!!!!! very bad service so far. I contacted them the 5th of November 2014 today it is the 27th of November and up until today nothing has been done. The seller reacted to my email on the 8th of November asking me to make a video. I had to show them the watch playing music!!!! while the complaint is not having a working MICROPHONE!!! I must clearly miss something because why do I need to show the music playing when it is the microphone that is not recording anything, or other people on the other side can't hear me speak. Anyone???? I have send 13 emails to this seller, all I got back is:

welcome! if you have any problem ,please tell me ! we are help you ! :confused: (received this AFTER I send the video)

S

sorry, the engineer is to check your video, he may forget to reply you :good:

we will tell you, please wait :good:

and 2x :

In the factory, engineers in the check your video, they did not reply to us. :mad::confused::crying:

Anyone else any idea how I can get the microphone working again?
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
after reading through the last ten pages of posts...

I want to apologize for not being more present after the campaign ended. I wasn't able to do that to any functional degree. I should have made different arrangements, had a team member maintain our presence here. Sorry guys and girls of XDA, I really do want accountability and communication to be something I stand for, both as a company and as a person.

I am available at samf@inwatchz.com. My skype is s4mf0rce, feel free to drop me a line.

I also want to assure you all that we will be making an Android lolipop version of Z's firmware in 2015. With all the suggestions of improvements and good ideas, we have a lot to build with. We also have a truly talented UX/UI designer named Courtney Bolton on the team. She has been in China with the larger team working to start that design process. We want to make something great and we know this is the next step.

OK, thats it. I'm here, happy to answer questions or help in any way.
[Other SmartWatches] fibroman:
Hi. Can you be more specific about when and where the Inwatch Z will be available In the USA?

I, for one, have been ready to purchase one for the last 4 months, but I keep searching online and can only find them in the Asian markets, and although I have come close, was never willing to pull the trigger there as I have heard more bad reports then good coming from those "stores".

Thanks, and looking forward to more good news coming from you.

Fibroman
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
Please leave a bone conductivity speaker, it is the only thing for which I bought this watch.
[Other SmartWatches] xda-ulle:
+1 for conductive speaker!

"We also received feedback that the bone conductivity speaker was fun to play with but not really an every day kind of thing."

This feedback seemingly didn't come from xda-dev ...

And one other thing I ask for:

Please place the camera sensor into landscape mode! Who on earth wants portrait videos???

Or is there another way to make this nonsense go away, maybe via some settings or software?
[Other SmartWatches] SW_Tech:
This watch is one of the few who has a good design and can actually replace a smartphone very well. But it is really expensive :(

Also Andrid 4.2 is not the latest software. Is is possible to update it on 4.4?
[Other SmartWatches] vscmaster:
Seems guys work on it.
[Other SmartWatches] inWatchUSA:
Hi Fibroman,

We have just begun our conversations with US distributers. Until I had final hardware and a UI that works properly (and ships with the play store) it was just not time yet. There are some that are confirming quite soon (one that I am excited to announce, as I look to them whenever I am trying to vett a new piece if tech). We will unfortunately probably miss Christmas sales this year, it was just not possible to get everything done in time to our satisfaction. A bummer but a decision I will make again if given the chance. No one will remember when it went on sale. They will remember how it felt and what it was like to use.

Believe me, when I get a deal signed or in place, I will post here about it. Truly, I want to use this forum as a main announcement portal. You will hear first here and on FB (when I get back on posting to that as well) when there are exciting announcements. We will be setting up a preorder system on the website (which will also be seeing an update) in the next few weeks. That is going to be the fastest and surest way to get your 3G 4.4 Z.

A quick note about all the Chinese sellers and other online sources for Z:

These sellers are working with inWatch China to move the existing versions of Z that are made as we iterate. They were never supposed to be selling outside of China but ensuring this happens in every case is tough. Also, people will just buy in China and ship products out to whomever so really, it is going to get out. And that is fine, we will be attempting to limit that as we expand into global markets with our completed device but for now, I just wanted to let you all know what is going on in that arena.

---------- Post added at 08:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:03 PM ----------

The fun to play with part sure did, you guys really do like it. The everyday usability part came from some of the testers and beta users who began using Z as their primary phone. The "private conversation in a noisy area" use case was just not as compelling as the "sitting normally using speakerphone" use case.

I took XDA's preference for the bone conduction to task as well however. We will be bringing it our in a later model. Just not the first initial version. Our reasoning there is smartwatches as phones are already quite the new concept. They have yet to make it into mass use, therefore there will be a learning curve and a portion of the user experience that requires a mental shift of sorts. Bone conduction, while not new, is still something many are not familiar with. It requires a learning curve of its own. We wanted people to have as similar an experience to the phone that they already use and love as possible. Removing the bone conduction at this stage accomplishes this. Don't worry, it isn't for good it will be back later like an old friend :)

And yes, landscape videos for all future versions of Z!
[Other SmartWatches] ThePurpleK:
That's great to hear. I had been using an inWatch Z for so long but it broke. I can't get a warranty replacement since I bought it outside China. I really can't wait to get an official US version.