yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
Yup. Nothing to be concerned about.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
Thanks the antisaption is killing me lol.
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
Just received a refund from China Man for my May 27 Moto Maker Moto X. Still a no-go for here. Will try again at a later date.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] sivarticus85:
Me too. Fourth unsuccessful attempt as well. At this point I'm done waiting around for a code. I'm just gonna sell mine and buy a Dev edition - what I should have done from the beginning(just can't stand the black front with the white back, prefer red).
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
Just got my code from Middle Man is it case sensitive they are all Caps?
[Moto X Q&A] sivarticus85:
All caps.
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
No I meant all the letters are caps has numbers to I checked code from my moto x and they are caps to sorry gonna try now.
[Moto X Q&A] Vivjen:
Just have got code for RW XT1049 end of November 2013
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
Got code for droid Maxx 3-14-2014 and unlocked was using Elemental X unlock but cant get twrp to work. Ill look for another link
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Use the official version from here: http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/ghost

There is a specific way you have to do it: You MUST immediately after flashing TWRP, reboot to the bootloader, and enter recovery. Otherwise it won't "stick" -- we don't know why, but the solution is simple enough. As long as you immediately boot into TWRP, it sticks 'forever' or until you flash a new recovery.img

fastboot flash recovery twrp_file_name.img

fastboot reboot-bootloader

Then VOL DOWN to recovery, and VOL UP to enter into it.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Yes it is case sensitive. Please COPY/PASTE the code from your email!!
[Moto X Q&A] Radio2006:
No joy on the Verizon Maxx, 28May2014...refund initiated on the distant end.
[Moto X Q&A] Mayze23:
Placed my order for a Dev edition today. I'm going to swap my walnut wood back and sell my retail version on craigslist or swappa. My retail version is a July build so it may be many months (or never) before he is able to get an unlock code for it.
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
Well everyone Im 100% unlocked with twrp and root assembled 3-8-2014 Droid Maxx. Thanks to all who helped answer questions Especially samwathegreat.
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
He just refunded my full payment. Guess he didn't have it. Maybe he's not sending emails anymore?
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
Yeah that's what he did with me as well. Saves time I guess.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
With a Sept 2013 build date, it doesn't surprise me he didn't have it. When he re-started selling the codes, he said only 2014 models. Very few 2013 users got codes since the restart (and they were all Republic Wireless users if I recall correctly)
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
won't you also need to buy a new back for the retail version? i'm betting some people will be pissed/put off if you sell a retail version with "Developer Edition" clearly marked on the back.

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wait, it is? mine came in all caps!
[Moto X Q&A] Mayze23:
Already covered. Ordered a new retail black back off eBay. [emoji6]
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Then you need to use all caps when you do the fastboot oem unlock command.

Per Moto's step 7 at -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-c

The UNIQUE_KEY is the code you received in the email. It is case-sensitive.

But Copy/paste will alleviate any potential "case" issues.
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
heck i copy-pasted just because i was too lazy to type all the chars! when i saw it was in all caps, i just assumed it didn't matter. lol.
[Moto X Q&A] mamba94:
Just got my code from Middle Man for Verizon moto maker. I am now unlocked and rooted running 4.4.4.
[Moto X Q&A] easting:
What was your date? I've tried 3 times with my June 3, 2014 date. Hoping someone has success with June/July builds..
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
To all successes and fails, please just post your device model and assembly date with your posts. No reason not to. To post success without a model and date doesn't give us anything to go on.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] csp1981:
Not found, XT1060, 7/21/2014
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
GUYS!!!!! AMAZING NEWS!!!! I've just been advised that DAN ROSENBERG has FOUND a new exploit that will allow us to unlock our bootloaders COMPLETELY FREE!!!!

I haven't verified the information yet, but I will update soon.

EDIT: IT HAS BEEN CONFIRMED!!!!!! He just demonstrated it LIVE @ BlackHat!!!!!!

See here from REDDIT: http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2csyiq/

EVERYONE SAY "GOODBYE" TO THE CHINA MIDDLEMAN!!!!
[Moto X Q&A] mamba94:
Mine was March 2014.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Free, except for the bounty pledges if he comes to collect. :)

If/when this hits the forum.
[Moto X Q&A] Clark Joseph Kent:
Members, Racial slurs of any degree, regarding anything or anyone, will not be tolerated on XDA. You will answer to me.....Thread Cleaned and Addressed.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Everyone please remember that as with all "exploits", this CAN and WILL be patched in the future. I would advise anyone wishing to take advantage of this new exploit if/when it is released to consider NOT accepting any future OTA updates until aftter you have successfully unlocked.

:good:
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
Can anyone tell me if this exploit would be applicable on Moto X running current version of 4.4.4 ?
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
It hasn't been confirmed yet either way I don't think, but from what I've read the advice is to NOT upgrade to 4.4.4 if you haven't already done so.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Probably, but only time will tell. Since this exploit (like the previous Razr M bootloader exploit) takes advantage of a vulnerability in TrustZone, it will depend entirely on whether or not the TrustZone kernel itself has been patched in 4.4.4 on the VZW models.

While I have no information to either confirm or deny that this is the case, I would forego any updates until a tool exploiting this vulnerability is released and you have the opportunity to use it. Many VZW users are already on 4.4.4, and if the vulnerability has indeed been patched, it will be sad news for those that were in a rush to update to this latest version.

AT&T units, however, are still on 4.4.2, and given that this firmware was released well prior to the date listed on Dan's documentation that outlines the specifics of the vulnerability, it is extremely likely that these units are definitely vulnerable to the exploit. Republic Wireless units also are expected to be vulnerable, as well.

We can cross our fingers and hope that the 4.4.4 VZW units are still vulnerable, but I would still suggest that anyone wishing to take advantage of this exploit to wait. Once the bootloader is unlocked, you may update to future versions with little fear that the *powers that be* will be able to do anything about this, given that it is a qfuse that controls the bootloader lock/unlock status.

Dan has once again done some amazing work! I imagine we will receive further information from those who understand the specifics of the vulnerability and are able to analyze whether or not the TZ Kernel has been patched in the recent 4.4.4 update very soon.
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
Is there a video-link to Dan Rosenberg live presentation?
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
No. Google it tomorrow. Maybe it will be posted on YouTube by then.
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
samwathegreat, thank you for the nice detailed reply.

Is there a recommendation related to stopping a Moto-X from taking OTA (downloading and/or installing 4.4.4)?

My current Moto-X automatically downloaded the OTA (unlike previous models that requested user permission to both download AND install an OTA), and became persistently more aggressive with attempts to install the download. Motorola senior-tech explained to me the device would not hold the download without auto-installing for more than 3-4 days (and said no way to freeze or delete the download w/o root-access I assumed).

So, knowing I had a warranty Moto-X in the mail I decided to allow the install of 4.4.4 to preview/use/check-out it prior to migrating to new device (delivered & currently on 4.4.2 and w/o Sim yet installed). Would like to start using new Moto-X, but want to not allow OTA download and/or install somehow ... ?
[Moto X Q&A] John Cez:
How is going now, bro? It's works?
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
If Q was directed at my Moto-X running 4.4.4. it is running pretty well. First 18 hrs or so questioned the battery life issues, but has improved since. None of the heat related issues I've read by others. Camera improvements are nice features. So far don't like the changes to phone dialer, but with time ...? ... (Currently on Delvic v. Art).

Overall, would have no issues staying on 4.4.2 on previously mention warr-replacement device if I can figure a way around auto-download of OTA-4.4.4 (previous question of mine to this thread).
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
in this case, you're confusing security exploits... assuming this exploit reveals the password, there's nothing to "fear". however, if it is indeed a security exploit that bypasses the locking mechanism (tricks the bootloader into unlock mode), then yes, this could easily be patched.

once the bootloader is unlocked and unless Moto pushes out an update that re-locks EVERYONE's bootloader, people will be "safe" to root indefinitely.

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just saw this. this is good information. i'm just getting in on the discussion so all of this is news to me.

here's more information on dan's page:

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/04/unlocking-motorola-bootloader.html
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
Since the paper was written on July 1st, Motorola might have been able to catch it and patch it in 4.4.4. We don't know but for those on 4.4.2, I advise you not to update just in case.

All aboard the Moto X unlock hype train! Choo choo!
[Moto X Q&A] sivarticus85:
Is this exploit related to Towelroot/Pie? If so, I believe this was indeed patched in 4.4.4.
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
Nope, the exploit we are talking about is the TrustZone exploit Dan Rosenberg talked yesterday in a presentation at the BlackHat conference. He unlocked a locked Moto X onstage using the exploit. We are just waiting for developers to make it easy for us to do the same.
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
A very high chance!
[Moto X Q&A] doitinthedirt:
Probably would have been let out by now.. I imagine it's going to be in the app store 45 bucks a pop
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
and worth every penny. i haven't kept up on any of the "rooting" methods since moving to 4.4.2. once you unlock, the world's your oyster.

or something.
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
I'd rather do that then roll the dice on the Middleman.

Isn't that what Jcase is doing with Sunshine for HTC devices?
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
i was more concerned with the fact that my bank didn't flinch when i made a chinese purchase then the actual process. i think i got my code just days before the original source was "deleted".
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
I agree. I sent it twice and the bank had said nothing. *shrugs*
[Moto X Q&A] jbrukardt:
I bought mine in November of 2013 (republic wireless) and got an unlock code this morning. The phone manufacture date is even earlier than that, sometime in october.
[Moto X Q&A] DroidOnRoids:
Yeah I got that same email. Oh well. I filed a dispute 10 minutes ago and he already refunded me. He's trustworthy.
[Moto X Q&A] FrankAsking:
Hi, I recently bought a Moto X and thinking about rooting it.

Is there any benefit unlocking the bootloader through the chinese middleman instead of directly through motorola.

For example will I still have guarantee or is it void too like unlocking it via Motorola?

Thanks in advance, Frank
[Moto X Q&A] EcHoFiiVe:
If you have tmobile or sprint I'd unlock via Motorola. If you have Verizon or att I'd unlock via this method. I think Moto only honors the warranty if it's a dev edition, not sure though so someone chime in and correct me if I'm wrong
[Moto X Q&A] thelogman:
I asked him if he would be able to acquire the 2013 unlock codes and I got this reply
[Moto X Q&A] jbrukardt:
Dont ask the dude questions, he's not tech support. Just send him money, and your imei, and if he doesnt have it, he'll refund you.

Multiple people, myself included, with 2013 phones have gotten codes back.

Multiple people havent too, but only way is to try. Dude's proven to be honest, so if he doesnt have your code, you'll jsut get a refund. There is minimal risk.
[Moto X Q&A] FrankAsking:
Thanks for the reply. I have the international version of the XT1052 (bought in the UK). So I think I am unlocking it via Motorola since I will loose the warranty anyway.

Thanks
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
For the Developer Editions Moto X, and some carrier editions (Like T-Mobile, Sprint and others), Motorola freely gives away the BootLoader Unlock codes when requested On Motorola's Web SIte. In the case of the Non-Developer Editions, it voids their warranty to request the code.

I'm not going to go into the reasons why, but Moto does NOT give out the bootloader unlock code for the Retail and MotoMaker X for Verizon, ATT and a few other carriers, so obtaining the bootloader unlock code from a 3rd party is the only way.

The only difference in getting the code from the Chinese Website/Middleman vs having the Dev Edition and getting the code from Moto, is 1. where you get the code from, 2. warranty status, and 3. The price (free vs ~$45). The rest, including rooting, flashing, etc. once you have your unlock code is exactly the same.

So if you have an X that moto does give out the unlock code, save your money and get it from Moto for free, otherwise you need to buy it from this Chinese site/middelman.
[Moto X Q&A] thelogman:
I had already sent him the money and he was unable to find my code, I asked afterward he refunded immediately after filing the dispute.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Is filing a dispute really necessary for a refund when he can't find the code?
[Moto X Q&A] thelogman:
In the email he replied with asking me if my phone was a 2014 production/telling me he couldn't find the code he told me to file a dispute for the refund
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
yes, it appears to be the only way he is refunding. the first time this was going on he wouldn't respond to emails that i sent him first to get a refund (i didn't want to dispute because it felt wrong to have to do that). as soon as i disputed, i got a refund. now he's telling people to go that route. also why some people got burned - if you don't send as goods/services, you can't file a dispute, as i understand.
[Moto X Q&A] Just_Jim:
Once/if I can unlock the bootloader, what is the best way to obtain root?

I have a Droid Mini.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
copy SuperSU ZIP file to your phone's SD (or emulated SD)... flash TWRP or other 3rd party custom recovery for your Droid Mini, then boot to it, and select install patch/zip from storage... and select the SuperSU zip file

Not sure if the TWRP for the X works on the Droid mini or not.
[Moto X Q&A] codya321:
Just got my code from him this afternoon, took about 18 hours after I sent the coin. I can also confirm that it works! I now have an unlocked xt1058 AT&T moto maker moto x, time for some fun! (mine is a 2014 model)
[Moto X Q&A] Vahnyyz:
is this working on any republic wireless phones? I'm curious because i have a Moto X from them and I'd LOVE an unlocked bootloader to get this over and done with.
[Moto X Q&A] bstevens23:
I believe it should. I'm waiting for my code for a RW Moto X right now. Apparently I sent the wrong number somehow, pulled the IMEI from my phone info and sent it to him. He said "ok" and I'm waiting to hear back.
[Moto X Q&A] LARBIFY:
It is on at least 3 or 4 RW phones including my own.
[Moto X Q&A] Cyphir:
I'm with RW and got an unlock the first go around.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
I'm also on Republic Wireless. Missed the first boat, but got both my devices unlocked this time. One was 2013 production, and one was 2014 production.

I -believe- that he has all the Republic Wireless codes. I got my code for my November 2013 unit yesterday, and received my code for the 2014 device earlier today.

Get it while you can. I agree with the earlier poster.....QUIT ASKING HIM IF HE CAN UNLOCK YOUR 2013 DEVICE.

Just send the money, and if he doesn't have it, you'll get it back...heck, it's just $45....

Seems that everyone who asked if 2013 could be unlocked was told NO by him.....but obviously some of us got our codes anyways.

Roll the dice, and get refunded if its a no-go.... Easy Peasy

-samwathegreat
[Moto X Q&A] doitinthedirt:
Dang... I think I'm in the wrong business... just crunched.. 500 x 45 that's not a bad chunk of change! Bet the numbers would be a lot greater than 500
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
i don't think 500 people responded in the first go around. you'd think there would be a heightened demand, but between the shady process and people not understanding the what and whys, its not nearly as lucrative as, say, writing a crappy side scroller with ad revenue like Flappy Bird.
[Moto X Q&A] doitinthedirt:
45 is steep anyway.. divide by three and sell 5 times more... or at least better than 3 times more.. get good ratings and watch the bank grow
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
I think you already understood that I'm not confusing security exploits once you read my 2nd message that you quoted. I'm quite well versed on bootloader-unlock exploits, actually.

The exploit does not reveal the password. It "tricks" the TrustZone kernel into allowing it to write to the secure qfuse area - specifically the ONE qfuse that controls the bootloader lock/unlock state. When you enter the actual "unlock token" in order to do a legitimate unlock, the bootloader proceeds through a series of validation logic. If success is returned, the same exact qfuse is "blown".

Keep in mind that just like any other 'fuse', blowing it is permanent. You can never 'un-blow' it. That's why you can never return back to locked state. Ever. If you re-lock in the future, your status only changes to "re-locked" because you can't restore the blown qfuse.

So the exploit DOES exactly what entering the correct password (token) does, only without any password at all.

You can somewhat liken it to lock-picking. A lock-set requires a key to open it, right? But if one doens't have the key, a skilled locksmith (Dan, in this case) can pick it! No key was ever used - heck you might not even have the key. But the same GOAL is achieved, and nobody would know you didn't have the key in the first place....

Similarly, Moto CAN AND WILL patch the TrustZone exploit. As long as you have --already unlocked--, ---before--- the vulnerability is patched, you need not worry. Since the lock/unlock state is controlled by a qfuse, moto can't re-lock your BL. At least they won't....imagine how many upset customers they would have...

And finally - the link you have posted above, that is for the Razr M bootloader exploit. Its from early 2013, this one is similar but quite a bit different.
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
agreed and this is the point that most people get confused on:

moto COULD/TECHNICALLY relock bootloaders, but it would nondiscriminatory and would force people who have already unlocked to re-unlock, which would cause all sorts of PR issues, blah blah blah.

the long of the short of it is, if you have a chance to unlock, do it. it eliminates all needs for future security exploits, which are getting harder to come by and the whole "can I root" discussion goes out the window.
[Moto X Q&A] :
I don't think Moto would care about us unlockers very very quiet voice. ?

99 percent of their customers don't know what a bootloader is. Lol

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Hope the people who paid to unlock kept their code. ?
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
Yet they made a developer version? Na I think they'll do something about it. They patched Pie in 4.4.4.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
What he means is that while they will definitely patch the vulnerability in TZ (it is a security breach, after all), he suggests that they won't "re-lock" everyones bootloader. I completely agree.

Guys, rewind back to the Razr M BL Exploit. It was extremely similar and also exploited a vulnerability in TZ. If you unlocked before the next OTA patched the vulnerability, all was well!!! You were unlocked and stayed that way.

I imagine this will be the same.

As has already been pointed out, though they might **theoratically** be able to re-lock your BL, it's unlikely they could do it indiscriminately (just those who use the exploit) so everyone would likely be re-locked. Why in the world would any fortune-500 company do something that would cause such a huge PR-Nightmare, and consumer outrage....?? I would bet a considerable amount of money that they will NOT. They will patch the exploit, yes, but anyone who unlocked before the patch gets applied (it would HAVE to be in an OTA update), is home-free.

:good:
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
I'm actually really excited about this. Been wanting to actually do stuff with this phone for a long time.
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
I posted this over on the other thread about Dan's exploit, but figured I'd post it here too:

For anyone wondering how to stop the update or the notifications for it, all I did was use TowelRoot to gain root access then I froze "MotorolaOTA 1.0" in Titanium Backup and haven't gotten a notification to update since. Still on 4.4.2.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
The steps Moto has posted on their own web site to re-lock your bootloader involves flashing back to stock, erasing data and immediately issuing a mfastboot oem lock command.

I doubt Moto is going to be able to do that remotely. OR would be willing to remotely lock if it involves wiping user's data.
[Moto X Q&A] BriCo84:
Do we expect this to work on the Verizon Droid variants as well?
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Probably. No confirmation yet, though.
[Moto X Q&A] Moe Hailstone:
Does our friend from China ignore payments sent as gifts instead of goods or service? Sent as gift by mistake and has been almost a week with no reply.
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
Never got refunded. Use the search next time, man! Save yourself 45 dollars.
[Moto X Q&A] BADDINOROX99:
I just hope Dan shares the exploit... This is the only Android device I've ever owned that I feel is not truly mine due to the fact that I can't do much with it
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
From what I have read it is only good for 4.4.2. I'm on 4.4.4 and just unlocked via Middle Man on a Droid Maxx. I know what you mean I couldn't wait to unlock. I know the new phones are coming out but I hope this will spark things up a bit.
[Moto X Q&A] Moe Hailstone:
Question remains: has anyone got a code with payment as gift??

IMO the PayPal page is set up to entice you to gift, so as to prevent a refund. You have to drill down a level to get the option of goods or service. All options should be right out front.
[Moto X Q&A] :
You have to select gift. Its not a preset option.
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
;)

I don't know man that's the first thing I saw goods and services with a warning about gifts.
[Moto X Q&A] mblanton66:
"Not found" was in the comment section of my Paypal refund about 20 hours after I sent it. Droid Maxx assembled on 6/17/2014.

So I remain stuck on 4.4.4 (phone came with it) with no wifi tether solution.

Pooh.
[Moto X Q&A] miketoasty:
Do you happen to be on Verizon's More Everything Plan? If so you get free wireless tether included.

If you are still on Unlimited (Like I am) then trust me, I feel your pain.
[Moto X Q&A] BADDINOROX99:
Don't be so quick to dismiss the middleman I just saw this over a Droidlife.com thought I'd share

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/08/0...nt-on-dan-rosenbergs-trustzone-vulernability/