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[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshirajen:
Using a different charger - idea failed

Hi, I saw this video. Thanks for sharing this. This is exactly what is happening to my phone. However, I am unable to charge my phone using 5V 2A charger also.

I have a Samsung 5V 2A charger for Galaxy S3 Phone from my friend but that didn't help. I kept it for charging for almost 3 hours and it still showed as 0% Charging..

I think I will have to go to some local service center here in bangalore. Anything else you could suggest?

Thanks again,

Rajen
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] narayanand:
If your phone is not under warranty and if you can have another moto G or E, you can temporarily swap the batteries to check where the fault is. If the swapped battery gets charged in your phone well, it simply means your battery is defective. Else, viscera.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshirajen:
Good idea

Sounds like a good idea. I will try that..!
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vjyvgns:
Same issue with MOTO E (Need local service guy details)

Hey Rajen,

I have the same issue with my Moto E. But, Its not just water. It was in beach. I had the phone in my pocket and got strolled in beach. Realized the stupidity in the first two minutes and dried it out. Initially, i thought there won't be any issues as i have seen some youtube videos of phone submerged in water for 5 minutes.

But, at first phone showed the Motorolo logo (With powered by Android below). And then nothing.. I tried to charge it with motorolo charger and the high amp chargers. But no use. Now, i don't see that logo as well. Later found out the issue is only with the Screen. Yes, when i called the phone it did ring.

Visited the authorized service center (Trident, Nungambakkam, Chennai). After two days of inspection they reported both the motherboard and the display has died and its better to get a new Moto E than repairing it :( Its completely insane considering that the phone is only three months old. I am yet to get the device back and planning to visit few local service centers before declaring to rest the device in peace.

It would be really helpful if you could share the Ritchie street repair center details.

Thanks,

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Hey Narayanan,

I have the same issue with my Moto E. But, Its not just water. It was in beach. I had the phone in my pocket and got strolled in beach. Realized the stupidity in the first two minutes and dried it out. Initially, i thought there won't be any issues as i have seen some youtube videos of phone submerged in water for 5 minutes.

But, at first phone showed the Motorolo logo (With powered by Android below). And then nothing.. I tried to charge it with motorolo charger and the high amp chargers. But no use. Now, i don't see that logo as well. Later found out the issue is only with the Screen. Yes, when i called the phone it did ring.

Visited the authorized service center (Trident, Nungambakkam, Chennai). After two days of inspection they reported both the motherboard and the display has died and its better to get a new Moto E than repairing it Its completely insane considering that the phone is only three months old. I am yet to get the device back and planning to visit few local service centers before declaring to rest the device in peace.

It would be really helpful if you could share the Ritchie street repair center details.

Thanks,

Vignesh
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] narayanand:
Hi Vignesh,

The service center in Ritche street is known as "Crescent Cell Phone Service". Their contact numbers are: +919840172678 and +914443227750. Their address would be "13/38 Wallers Road, Off Mount Road".

If you approach Ritche street and Mount road junction from LIC/Spencer side, the road on your left soon after subway entrance and India silk house is the Wallers road. The first notable shop at Wallers road is Sony service centre and in that side is this shop. This is a very small shop, probably of three feet wide and very easy to miss.

They first analyse the device and will give you an estimate. If you both agree for it, they will proceed for repair. If the repair is not successful, they will not charge you at all. The rate they quote will be on high side and can be bargained only by pleading.

In my case they did not fix the issue, rather they simply disabled the vibrator. When they asked Rs.1400 for that, I negotiated that had if they fixed the issue I am happy to pay the amount and I am not happy to pay Rs.1400 just for disabling the vibrator. After heated argument they did not oblige and fortunately I had only Rs.1100 with me. When I said I have that much only, they accepted Rs.1100.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joshirajen:
I am yet to go to a local service center in Bangalore. Higher amp charging did not work for me. I will go to SP Road in bangalore soon(known for its local electronic market) and see if I get lucky. All the best Vignesh.

Thanks guys,

Rajen
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ankushv:
Check out the disassembly videos on youtube . Disassemble the phone , dry out all the components and dry with rubbing alcohol and give it a try it may work .
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aayush_neov:
Let me tell you what you did wrong . had my previous experiences with water issues with Xperia ( non waterproof ) devices.

If there is a water damage, there is a hidden light in the phone which will glow in red, due to which the service centre guy can tell about water damage just by looking the phone or behind the back cover , this light is not noticeable under normal conditions.

The problem with water is not damaging your motherboard, its that when you powered on the device after getting wet, water is present in the battery terminal or openings like sim slot or micro sd slot, so from there short circuiting can occur. In my case the phone was not running on battery but running directly on ac power ( that time battery was removable ) . due to water in slots like micro sd, my charging circuit got fried, and company will try to replace the whole circuit rather than replace the charging circuit ( cost 1-2 thousand in total ).

So, my opinion is to get philips screwdriver and open the battery to see if water is still accumulated there or any burnt out circuit is there, and ask them specifically to change the charging circuit. if that doesnt solve your problem, then you can purchase motherboards from ebay.com , you will get a good deal and good stuff too ( they ship to india ).

When you go to them just tell that your phone is not charging. act like you don't know about water, for that you must open the phone and dry it out. using blower ( from a distance , as blower gives a warm air ).

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Moto E is less water resistant than Moto G .

And beach water is salty ( means ions to conduct electricity ) and in that case both Moto G & E are Zero resistant.

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Dont try anything funny on a wet and dead phone, presence of moisture or faulty circuit can lead to bigger problems.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vorter:
After switching to ART on my stock M8 it got extremely laggy at times and froze up to a minute at a time. The phone would also get hot. After switching back to Dalvik everything was fast again. Anyone notice this?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grentuu:
You have to remember ART is still developmental. Also you need to say whether you are on Sense or GPE as there are issues with sense.

Also there are a number of apps that still aren't working with ART.

There are some roms that include it

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2694917
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bamboosensei:
I think your issue is that the phone was throttling due to the heat. Because it probably ran at maximum CPU speeds to optimise the apps for ART, this would have cause the phone to get hot and to feel the need to throttle. Give it some time to cool down and to settle then see if it still feels laggy
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vorter:
Sense on Verizon.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vorter:
That problem should only last a few minutes or so. This has been happening for 2 weeks until I changed back this morning.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grentuu:
Have a look on here, are any of the apps that are supposedly broken running in the background?

I am not sure when this list was last updated as some of them worked when I used art last time although some of them were definitely broken.

http://www.androidruntime.com/list

as mentioned here

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/android-4-4-kitkats-art-and-app-compatibility/
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vorter:
Didn't see any of my apps that weren't working. I've hard restarted and used only a few essential apps (Yahoo Mail, Hangouts, Snapchat) which are all working on ART and the problem still occurred.
[Moto X Q&A] megazero:
I just got an email from that China middleman back from this thread http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/verizon-moto-maker-bootloader-unlock-t2680651

Titled: moto bootloader work back 2014/05/15

Subject: price：45usd paypal:sbdnyy@163.com notes:IMEI+ email !!!! in 12-48H reply

Its $5 more and he's saying hes back!

I have emailed him and I will post results but im very hopeful!

Edit: ONLY AVAILABLE FOR 2014 DEVICES

and some 2013 if your lucky
[Moto X Q&A] cucamelsmd15:
Tag for outcome.
[Moto X Q&A] sivarticus85:
I got the email as well. We'll see what happens!
[Moto X Q&A] ConstantHero:
Everyone who didn't get on the first boat, I would recommend jumping on this asap (if he's really back.) Nothing like having a self made Dev edition and complete freedom with nowhere near full retail cost.
[Moto X Q&A] cucamelsmd15:
Screw it, Im in. Not waiting around and getting left behind this time.
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
Yep, got an email from him this morning as well (should be 40+ of us since he has no idea how to use bcc). Stopped what I was doing and sent the payment & info. Will also post any results.

Might I remind everyone who is doing this to send payment as goods/services this time - the people who sent as a gift couldn't get a refund last time.....

edit: also wanted to mention that i went from 10-20 spam emails a day to over a hundred after emailing this dude the last time..... so use a junk email address you don't care about.
[Moto X Q&A] jasonumd2:
The original link does not seem to work for me. Can someone confirm the URL?
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
just do what the instructions in the first post of this thread say. send paypal payment of $45 to that address with IMEI and email address in the notes.
[Moto X Q&A] jasonumd2:
Duh. Thanks! Payment sent and fingers crossed.
[Moto X Q&A] sivarticus85:
He just responded to me. Apparently the 2013 models aren't in the database. He's initiated a refund for me.
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
bummer.. guess this means i need to initiate a refund:

"2013 production was not found in the database machine, I will refund initiated paypal dispute

Can't find 2013, the data do not know where to put, no way"

edit: second email to the bigger group:

"moto bl Notice

Can't find 2013, the data do not know where to put, no way

2014 100% ok"
[Moto X Q&A] Jumnhy:
So, sounds like there's still an opening for devices made this year? Seems very strange, but I guess promising for the minority of people who have newer-issued devices. I bought mine on swappa, so I have no clue whether it would be included in the 2013 or 2014 group. If I had bought it in 2013, I'd probably do my best to get an on-warranty replacement any way I could.
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
it's really weird. with how flaky this situation has been, it's not even worth trying that, this could be closed up again pretty quickly.. if the dude can even get 2014 codes. strange..

btw you should probably be able to find a manufacture date or something somewhere, i dunno.

so did any other 2013's file a dispute yet? i'm pretty sure that's what he meant, that we do that and he refunds - that's how it worked last time. i didn't do it yet just on the small chance he figures it out or something, who knows. i sent him an email asking for more info but haven't gotten a response.
[Moto X Q&A] Jumnhy:
I mean, is he refunding your money? If the dude is in good faith it sounds like there's no harm in trying because if it doesn't work you can get your money back. If not, is there any way we can find out what devices he has access to codes for? I am looking into finding info on manufacture dates but running into a lot of dead ends. Anyone have any ideas? That way people could check beforehand and save themselves the trouble.
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
Only place I would think to check would be the barcode sticker on the box that has IMEI etc. Otherwise you'd probably have to rip the phone apart to find it somewhere.

But yes, when this went belly up a month ago, the bunch of us who had money out to him, as long as you sent the paypal money as goods/services (and not gift) you could file a dispute with paypal and he was immediately refunding people when you did that. The others who sent money as gifts to try to help him out with paypal fees ended up getting screwed because they couldn't dispute it and he didn't respond to any emails asking for refunds - you had to go through a paypal dispute, but then he was very quick to issue it.

All that shadiness aside, if you send it for goods/services, I think you're fine trying.
[Moto X Q&A] Jumnhy:
Interesting. It's cool to see consumer safeguards working as they're intended--if he's not giving out any refunds for "gift" payments he's not interested in the ethics, just his standing with PayPal. Love it when these systems work the way they should.

I bought my X online through swappa; the guy sent it in the original box... just looked at the sticker, and nope, looks like august of 2013. Looks like I'm still out of luck. :/
[Moto X Q&A] DogzOfWar:
I have a 2013-purchased Moto X and sent over the $45 (prior to seeing the messages above) as a Goods/Service at 11am EST. I will update this thread with any messages I receive. Fingers crossed! I'd love to know what is going on behind-the-scenes with where this database is coming from, why would 2014 work but not 2013, etc.
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
please do. i'm waiting for some feedback before i request a refund, even it if may be hopeless for us.
[Moto X Q&A] jasonumd2:
I, unfortunately, paid as a gift. I have a 2014 so maybe I'll get lucky. I'll post my results.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
No, you do not need a code to re-lock. There is absolutely NO reason to ever re-lock, however. The carrier will know you re-locked. And if you sell your device, list it as unlocked. It should bring at least the same amount of $ as a locked device...probably more.
[Moto X Q&A] rmjones2006:
Yes I'm aware that you don't need the code to re-LOCK but I was curious about unlocking again if you for some reason were to lock it again

Sent from my XT1080M "Developer Edition"
[Moto X Q&A] :
You have a dev edition? Then why would you ever need to relock it? :)
[Moto X Q&A] rmjones2006:
I personally don't care to relock it but I was just curious if it would require the unlock code again after the initial unlock

Sent from my XT1080M "Developer Edition"
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Ah! Sorry, misunderstood you. YES, if you need to RE-UNLOCK, you will need the same code again. Yes it will still work to unlock again assuming you re-locked.
[Moto X Q&A] rmjones2006:
No problem =] and thank you for the information!

Sent from my XT1080M "Developer Edition"
[Moto X Q&A] aviwdoowks:
These are unauthorized codes & Moto may alter this at any time.
[Moto X Q&A] Zerospeed8:
just sent payment, will keep updating.
[Moto X Q&A] elborak:
Given that the "oem unlock" command does not communicate with anything other than the phone, this is really not a concern.
[Moto X Q&A] krsmit0:
that and there are now lots of phones motorola wont have to support any longer. which means if they break, new phones will be bought.
[Moto X Q&A] vinuneuro:
If you have a ATT/Verizon Moto X on 4.4.2, this is will do you no good for rooting?
[Moto X Q&A] krsmit0:
if an unlock code is used, it allows for custom recovery, followed by flashing supersu. then you would have root. using a code does reset your phone
[Moto X Q&A] aviwdoowks:
It does reset. I think going & coming?
[Moto X Q&A] tu3218:
Can anyone point to me towards a guide or something of that sort with instructions on installing recovery, an than root? What is everyone following once they're unlocked?
[Moto X Q&A] id0l:
fastboot flash recovery recovery.img
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
No, not quite. Once you have YOUR unlock code (which is specific to your device), there's nothing moto could do short of pushing a new bootloader that invalidates the ability to OEM unlock. But....if they did this....everyone who unlocked LEGITIMATELY, would also be locked out. Moto would NOT do this... No way, no how.

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Follow steps 1 through 4 (5 is optional) from here: http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm
[Moto X Q&A] shane1:
Motorola could ban the imie numbers of the devices rendering them useless on any network
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
LOL, imie numbers? I know IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identifier), but not imie...

Ok, so where does Moto get the IMEI's to ban? From the china guy? Assuming they got his list of IMEIs (which is unlikely), how do they they know those devices were actually unlocked? I could send him some random IMEI, and that doesn't mean I have possession of that phone.

Even if that were possible, it would be a huge PR nightmare for Motorola.

As a previous poster stated, the bootloader does not communicate with the android OS, nor does it communicate with Motorola. So the only way possible for Moto to even guess that you may have unlocked your BL is somehow obtain the chinaman's list. Remember, he has access to a database where he can look up the corresponding TOKEN (unlock code). Moto has a master list of tokens for every phone they've produced with the MSM8960 bootloader.

Sorry, I see that you have plenty of "thanks", but that doesn't equate to wisdom. The 'imie' makes it difficult to take you seriously. I'm not quite sure you have an understanding of the lower level programming that is involved here...
[Moto X Q&A] shane1:
Sorry I had a typo I clearly must be a fool. Your obviously right there is no possible way moto could know what's done to their smart phones once they are in the consumers possession.
[Moto X Q&A] super65man:
I did a little digging (jcase), all these codes were stolen from Motorola, so of course Motorola has always had these codes they just don't offer them. I find it unfair that a former Chinese employee is selling something stolen that could be offered for free.
[Moto X Q&A] shane1:
Thieves don't give away their loot for free.
[Moto X Q&A] super65man:
Not sure what you mean, as long as you have an unlocked bootloader any version can be rooted.
[Moto X Q&A] rmjones2006:
The cell phone carrier could do that, but that's a wonderful way to lose a lot of customers. But who cares about the customer anyways, right?

Sent from my XT1080M "Developer Edition"
[Moto X Q&A] elborak:
Look, there are endlessly many "possible" ways that Motorola (or Google, or Verizon, or ...) could change things to bite us. I can concoct all kinds of far-fetched scenarios too. They could modify binary-only device drivers to include backdoors that allow them to brick any phone at any time.

Will it happen? No. Will Motorola or Verizon ban phones which have had their bootloaders unlocked via back channels? No. Why? Because they have no incentive to do so. They make money off of us. They want to make more. They could deny us warranty claims, but that's about it. And even that, based on prior track record, is unlikely in most cases.

So quit trying to figure out convoluted ways that things could go wrong. It's a pointless waste of time.
[Moto X Q&A] trentonmc24:
My guess if anyone was to do anything about these unauthorized bootloader unlocks it would be Verizon. They are the company pushing back so hard about unlocked bootloaders. I doubt Motorola could care less if your bootloader is unlocked, they only lock them because Verizon ask them to.
[Moto X Q&A] hovax615@hotmail.com:
At&t also

MOTO X
[Moto X Q&A] vtmike:
The great thing about Verizon LTE phones is if they banned your device there is nothing stopping you from using an at&t or T-Mobile straight talk sim. I've been debating paying my etf and switching over. It would save me money in the long run by the time my contract expires. Only downside is Verizon moto x doesn't support at&t LTE in a lot of places.
[Moto X Q&A] cheeto:
I submitted an order without entering my IMEI. I tried to send him a message but i get this when i try to:

"Registered within seven days under the letter can not be sent station, please use the Messenger!"

How do I contact him or use "the Messanger"?
[Moto X Q&A] ks73417:
I'm more concerned about Motorola may have compromised some/all of it's customer information and has failed to inform us that our personal information may have been compromised. Guess they are not going to willingly admit to anything unless there is criminal investigation of some kind.
[Moto X Q&A] eksasol:
I think T-Mobile is supposed to have some deal that they'll pay the etf for you by giving you the equivalent in credit.

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[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
FAQ -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/MotoX-Unlock1.htm

(or the older/original version if you don't want to leave XDA -> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51363645&postcount=394 )

In short, if you have a (non-developer) Verizon or ATT phone, and have 4.4.2, unlocking the bootloader is the only way to root it and disable write protection.

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The only thing this person seems to have access to is the data base cross referencing IMEI to Bootloader Unlock code. This is likely created at the factory when phones are made, and separate from customer orders and information.

I don't think this is a breach of Moto customer data or such. I don't think it someone who found a way in and stole the information. I'm guessing there is a person (or people) who works at Moto, with access to this database, who is at the heart of it.. i.e. An individual at Moto who has access and wants to make a few $$$ by looking up and distributing the unlock codes.

I would think sending this middle man your info (imei, email and payment) is more of a compromise.
[Moto X Q&A] trentonmc24:
Maybe he's not really even Chinese, maybe he just says he is to help prevent Moto from knowing who he it as easily.
[Moto X Q&A] vinuneuro:
Got this reply from him. Does the second line indicate he might have access to more 2013 models in June? 2014 is typo?

__

Your IMEI is not found only 2014 support.

If your IMEI is a 2014 production （Try June）
[Moto X Q&A] mawells787:
Sounds promising, I hope he meant 2013.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
could be a couple of things... either that 2nd line is a typo and he mean "If your IMEI is a 2013 production （Try again in June）" - as if he is getting 2013 codes in June.

Or he means he will get more 2014 codes in June, so if your phone is really a 2014 model, try then.
[Moto X Q&A] EthanExplosion:
Was yours a 2014 or 2013 build date?
[Moto X Q&A] vinuneuro:
October 2013.
[Moto X Q&A] EthanExplosion:
Well then sounds like he will have some 2013 in June hopefully
[Moto X Q&A] trentonmc24:
That'd be awesome.