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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] T-Anthony78:
Nopers!! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mikespe:
Cool!!! Thanks!!! I installed Flesky to see how that works...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] T-Anthony78:
No prob- pretty interesting little app.

Glad I could help
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Got a question about changing the line above. What will that do to my phone? Does it just change the name or some other settings? As I said I tried it on my tablet ages ago and it bricked and had to restore firmware and factory restore so I dont want to do that again.

I want to add more apps but cant without editing this it looks like but I want to make sure its safe and it wont brick my Galaxy S4 GT-I9505.

THIS is why I asked. I changed it, went to the Samsung App Store and found heaps of apps. great you say. WELL when I changed it back and rebooted I'm now in the boot loop. :(

I guess I have another faulty app or something as it only does it when I insert the SD card. I remove the SD card and it boots but when I put the SD card in and reboot it boot loops.

I've got it working kinda. If I boot up without the SD card inserted it loads, then I insert it and it mounts and is usable so far.

Anyone know how to fix this without a factory restore? It took long enough to get it rooted and dont want to go through all that again. Bloody Knox is the problem,
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] T-Anthony78:
Do you have it set to boot to SD? Did you try to move everything from your SD card over to your computer and reformat the card? Did you try to boot it up with another SD card to see if the problem occurs again? If you have another phone, have you tried to boot up the second phone with the SD card that is causing issues to see if you get the same boot loop?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Ive tried lots. What I havent done which I should is factory reset when I upgraded from 4.2.2 to 4.3 as thats when the problems started but its been so long and its working as long as I dont reboot.

I'm guessing its a faulty app on the SD card so I will have to go through each app, back it up, delete it, reinstall it then restore the backup and see if that helps.

I did a Titanium Backup today and its got 600+ apps so I dont really want to go through them all and reinstall every one. Thats also why I dont want to factory reset, it'll take ages to get it set up the way I have it now.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] T-Anthony78:
Yeah, sorry man. Always a risk when you mess with the build props. I've accidentally added one too many dashes in my model name before and it wouldn't let me into the Samsung Apps store as my device wasn't a recognized device until I deleted one of the dashes and rebooted, but I've never been caught in a boot loop.

If you've inserted that SD card into another phone and the boot loop issue happened again, I think you see where the issue stems from.

My two cents.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Well I had this issue of semi bootloop. It wouldn't happen at bootup but randomly it would happen. Might be a week after bootup or it might be 2 mins after but it did the bootloop thing until I powered off then back on. Did that ever since I upgraded to 4.3.

Then my SD card died so I returned it to the shop and got a new on and its still doing it.

I think it would be a modded app or something like that but its just too hard to find which app. Going to take a lot longer than the phone has a battery life. Normal use of having it in your pocket in standby mode has about 5 hours battery life. if its in use its about 2 hours. If I'm reinstalling apps it'll be about 1 hour. The battery is really pathetic on the S4 even with things turned down or off.

As this bootloop is now doing it with the SD card in after I modded that file I guess its really in need of the factory reset. I did the Titanium backup so hopefully it wont be too hard to root again and that will fix the problem. Still i dont want to do it but I guess I now have no choice. Been busy with other things and dont have the time to work fixing the phone.

But out of all that I did end up with about 4 new Gear apps so it wasn't for nothing but they were more toy apps than anything so not needed.

Anyone know of an app or a way to get a list of apps installed? Would be even better if I could get a list of apps installed on the SD card. That way it'll take half the time. I'm hoping if I find the buggy app I'll just reinstall it and hopefully that'll be it.

EDIT: I think I found the buggy app. I had to reboot today and its working after I deleted one of those new Gear apps. I still got problems but its rebooting again now with the SD card in.

Would be good if there was a scandisk type of app for Android that would search for problems and fix them. The ones I tried just go around deleting everything and thats not what I want. A fixer would be great.

EDIT: I did find out something right now. I had to reboot again and it bootlooped. I again removed the battery and booted up again but this time I connected it to USB and it booted fine. This morning when I rebooted it was connected to the charger and it booted fine. Yesterday when I tried to reboot and got the bootloop it wasn't connected to power.

So without connected to power it bootloops, when its connected it boots up fine. I have seen a few error pop up saying the charging app has crashed.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] longshot201:
So since I've upgraded it to Tizen my gear has worked with my M8 where android did not, but as I posted earlier it recognizes it as phone audio. So it defaults as the main audio source in a call no matter where I answer it. Beyond that, I can't have both my Pioneer headunit in my car connected the same time as my gear. Android could do both at once. Is there some sort of setting to let it be seen as just a media source?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Dmac1984:
I use both in my truck, world's good because I drove a big truck and to hit anything on my deck I have to hunch forward, but with my gear I can answer calls or flip through music quick translates to my trucks stereo deck.

I also use Bluetooth stereo headphones daily and use the gear to keep my note in my pocket.

Hope that helps!

Just flashed to Tizen tonight using Odin, best thing I could have done to it, was hesitant to make the move because my gear was just as I needed it, but tizen is a huge upgrade in quality and speed in my opinion, everything is snappy and crisp and best of all customizable. I'm more pumped about the exercise functions and the pedometer history function my watch now has because of tizen, and as far as apps, there were tons in my app store, even more than the android version I had before.

Win.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I found a weird bug with Tizen. Its ok when its on normal ring mode but if I put it in Vibrate mode it eats the battery. Drops from about 20% in a day to about 50% in an hour.

Going to have to factory restore it again and hopefully that'll fix it but it shouldn't need to be factory reset every week? It was only installed last week and it was factory reset when I installed and it did last at least 3 days till I put it in Vibrate mode then it dies in a few hours.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ThePanama:
I run my watch in either vibrate or silent mode all the time and can easily get 3 days out of it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
Same here, always silent, almost 4 days per charge
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] c_86:
Same here. Always I vibrate mode.

I did however have an issue the last little bit but I think it's more because of gear manager. I installed the lasted version and I think that's what was causing a lot of my issues.

I've been. Having connectivity issues as of late. I tried just simply factory reseting the watch and wiping data on gear manager but that did nothing. Took forever to sync back up.

Ended up deleting everything to do with gear manager and all corresponding apps attached to gear manager. Re-installed it all from scratch then factory reset the watch again and now everything is working again without issues. Odd but I think some old code from before the update to the app happen was lingering and was messing with stuff.

So in the end
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] wiccan-two:
I've been through the same process app few times now since updating gear manager. Even tried rolling back to an old version. Seems pretty hit and miss now whether my gear connects or not.

At least I know now I'm not the only one. I cleared out all of gear manager last night and factory reset the watch. Fingers crossed it stays connected today.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] c_86:
Did you delete everyhting to do with gear manager and all related apks? Including like accessories manager, go providers and all those? Reboot. And install from scratch again.

My suggestion.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] wiccan-two:
I've done that countless times. I always seem to get the watch to a state where it refuses to connect anymore.

I got it working again last night after 3 hours of messing around deleting and reinstalling gear manager.

I think AVG might have been messing with it so I've taken it out for now.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I found the problem with the battery. I did have my bluetooth headset set up as the bluetooth device but I thought I had to connect it manually or play sound or something but no, whenever I use the headset on my phone the watch also connects and that drains the battery. Not sure why as the watch wasnt in use, it just connects to the headset and sucks the battery. I've since disabled the Bluetooth headset and now the battery is back to normal.

So, that was a learning thing. DONT have your phones bluetooth headset as your Gears connected headset as when you make phonecalls or whatever using the headset it will also connect to the Gear and drain the battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Tyronnster:
I'm wanting a music controller for my watch to control my music player on my phone. Any help

Nexus 5

Galaxy gear with tizen
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Not sure if it works with the Nexus but the Gear has a music controller already.

On my Galaxy S4 it controls just about anything that plays music. Whatever is open the Music Controller works.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Tyronnster:
I tried but didn't seem to work properly
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] wiccan-two:
Just an update, after removing AVG the problem persisted so it looks like it wasn't causing any problems. Samsung posted an update for gear manager on the 15th 4 days after their latest one. This has helped the issue somewhat. The watch connects most of the time now but still has issues if the phone gets too hot.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I've gone back to Android again after really giving Tizen a go. The only thing I like is the Delete All notifications. If Android had that I would never upgrade.

I went to Tizen to try out some of the apps I've been seeing and hearing about but as my phone has 20 apps but when I changed it to the S5 its now had over 100 apps it was a huge surprise but it was still missing a lot of apps I've seen and heard about.

Then yesterday I went and checked out the Samsung App Store for Tizen and under Utilities there is now 1 app. Thanks for the FU Samsung. 1 app? WTF?

Went back to Android and its still got the apps its always had. Some work, some dont, same are downgraded crap versions (Watch Styler is v0.01 in Samsung App Store for Android) but its got more useful apps and I can sideload all the other apps I want.

Next time I upgrade it will be a port of Android Wear. I'm not happy at all with Tizen. And NO you cant say battery life is better. I've had my watch on for the last 3 hours and lost 1% battery so its got about the same life as Tizen. Just remember to do a factory reset before syncing it and that fixes the battery drain problem.

But it all comes down to the individual and what apps you use. I mainly use 3rd party apps and Tizen either doesnt have them or they are worse. That AppGeek app on Tizen is pathetic where on Android its great.

People were complaining I said the Dice app is better on Android which it is but now I've found an even better app to compare, that AppGeek as its on both. Even Feedly is better on Android. I'm yet to find an app on Tizen thats better than the Android version.

As I've always said, Tizen feels cheap compared to Android. OH, if Android is so bad then why is Android Wear Android based and thats looking like to be the best OS for wearables. Tizen is just Samsung trying something else and failing. I doubt it'll be around for much longer. Android Wear is the way to go. I might go get one of them soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] psycho-sonic:
You're right man!

I'm also not happy with gear 1 and tizen but i have fear to downgrade and brick my gear or when i go back from the downgrad to tizen, that kies not recognize the gear or ota's not coming in.

Have you do the downgrade from the latest nf1 tizen fw?

Which FW you have used for the downgrade?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I used the working downgrader. The only update OTA is to Tizen so if you downgrade you wont want to upgrade again.

Yea, I was on a rooted NF1 when I downgraded.

It cant brick. I've done a few things and its not bricked. Its got a safety built in, If it does semi brick it just goes to download mode and you just flash another firmware and its all fine again.

You will semi-brick when you downgrade as thats part of it but if you do exactly like it says it will work again. If not just flash Tizen again and try again.

It sounds dangerous but its not. I've not heard of anyone bricking a Gear and I doubt you can.

What I did. I was on Tizen NF1, downgraded, reflashed NC1 and synced.

DONT FORGET to delete EVERYTHING on your Gear BEFORE you downgrade and go through the App Manager and delete EVERYTHING with the Gear icon and reinstall Gear Manager fresh.

There are 2 versions of Gear Manager, the Android and Tizen versions and from what I've found they clash.When you downgrade and if you didn't delete everything before you will have problems.

When I say everything I mean go into Gear Manager and delete apps from there. They are all the Tizen versions and wont work on Android anyway so are not needed but they are newer versions so you cant install the Android version if thats still installed.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] psycho-sonic:
I have downgrade the gear like the op guide now and flash 3 times the latest android V700XXUBNC1 but touch still doesn't work.

I'm in panic!

What can i do please?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
Your choice man, battery is no comparison tho. Have had my gear for a year, stock and null, you'd NEVER get 4 days out of stock android or null. Not even 2, unless you didn't use it. It's not an opinion, it's fact. Compare apps all you want, battery is not even in the same ballpark. Good luck.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] psycho-sonic:
Is it normal when i make a factory reset under android that the gear says "installing system update" instead of "doing factory reset" or something else?

Edit: I don't understand the world -.-

Now my gear running android again but the gear manager app store shows me only 49 (!!!) apps, wtf?

Under tools there are only 4 (!!!) apps!

Remember, it is paired with an s4.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Did you upgrade to NC1 after? Thats the last Android firmware and it should have more apps in the store.

Dont forget its Samsung and they stupidly limit the apps it shows. Change your phone ID to S5 and it should show all the apps.

I did that but it broke my S4 so not going to do it again.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] psycho-sonic:
No root for me because i have about 1,5 years warrenty left for the s4.

Is it possible for you to upload the "free apps" app files from the gear manager app store?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
There are a few posts with them already. Not sure where but somewhere in the forums here.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] psycho-sonic:
I have read all gear forums here, but find no one where app files are for download.

Edit: I found now some threads with apps, but no one in there for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
I haven't read a post yet where someone's been able to successfully side load a Tizen app. For a Tizen app to work there's both a Tizen .wgt file installed on the watch and a Android APK companion app installed on the host device. Someone posted the necessary install files for Pleksy that were taken from a Gear 2 and they didn't work when side loaded using Samsung's Tizen SDK. I tried and the Tizen app on my Gear failed to communicate with the Android host app on my N3. Has anyone here seen a case where someone's successfully side loaded Tizen apps on the Gear 1 from an outside source? And I'm not counting having to change the build.prop on your phone to that of an SGS5 as an appropriate way of gaining access to more Tizen apps for the Gear 1.

Speaking of which, that's how people are getting access to more apps. For one, you have to be rooted to change your build.prop so that won't work for a lot of people. Second, changing your build.prop changes what apps you have access to in Galaxy Apps and Play and a couple of people here borked their device when playing around with their build.prop. I'm not personally willing to root and potentially hose my phone just to pick up a couple of more apps for my watch.

I can't think of a single reason Samsung provides different app access based on whether a Tizen device is a Gear 1 or 2 better yet why the phone it's connected to (EG: SGS5 vs. N3) determines which Tizen apps are available. It

would

make sense to restrict apps dependent on either the heart rate monitor or camera but that's not what's happening. I'm thrilled Samsung didn't orphan the Gear 1 and moved it to Tizen. I'm not thrilled with how they're managing app access for the Gear 1 and more specifically tying it to the model of Samsung host device you're using. Tizen for the U.S. (XAR) just appeared on Samsung-updates today. Maybe that's what they've been waiting for to get their Gear 1/Tizen act together. Most likely not though.

I'd still rather be on Tizen with greatly improved stock apps (and battery life) than stuck on Android where there would never be any new apps released and those that exist would slowly die of atrophy as their developers updated host apps and didn't include support for their Android Gear 1 apps.

P.S. - Everyone here knows about null and the ability to run full size Android apps on a watch. There's no reason to beat that dead horse again by bringing it up as a solution or better alternative to Samsung's stock Android and Tizen implementation; both of which are more attractive to many here than null for numerous personal reasons.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Atm there is a choice of which OS for your Gear 1. Tizen with its very limited apps depending on which phone you own or Android with its more apps and more abilities as you can side load many more apps than Tizen will ever have and you can get the Gear to do a lot more than its supposed to.

So, Tizen for stock apps and longer battery life, or Android with Android apps and more abilities. More abilities like full Android apps, GUIs, fonts, you name it, you can just about do it.

Tizen might get that good but I doubt it. I think its already dead. Samsung have already moved to Android Wear which is getting more support on a daily basis where I was on Tizen twice for a week each time and both times I saw apps get removed from the Samsung App Store not added. If I was going to upgrade this watch it would be to a Gear Live not a Gear 2.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] deohrishikesh7:
Updated to tizen recently

Gear manager is crashing when trying to open notification menu

Reinstall doenst solve this . Pleae help
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] wiccan-two:
I had the exact same problem. The issue arises when you have too many apps installed (normally in the hundreds). If you uninstall some it will start to work. Gear manager seems to fall over trying to parse all of them.

I had over 400 apps installed.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ShotEm:
It is even worse than imagined. don't upgrade if you have not yet. The updates for the Galaxy Gear over the last 5 months have increased battery life to the point that it will easily run for 48 hours. With this update to Tizen I now max out at about 22 hours, Before updating I would wake up in the morning with 57% power remaining, now it is about 9% sometimes the watch has actually shut down!

And no longer will you see nice big apps that you can specify their order, now it is all little tiny quarter-screen size and you can't change the order. Terrible Terrible update. don't do it!

For those who report better battery I am not seeing this I get half the battery life I used to get, where you on the latest firmware before?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jmdearras:
4 days is indeed great, I like the watch on Tizen as is, I'm not looking for tons of app, it already does what I need and more. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
Did you reset the watch in recovery after you upgraded to tizen? This is an essential step in order to realize the battery life benefits of tizen...if you skip this step, your battery life will be worse than on android..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ShotEm:
Hmmm I followed the instructions but I don't recall a specific reset in recovery step, is this different than just hitting the reset option on the watch?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
It's not Tizen my friend, it's something unique to your installation. The vast majority here (me included) experienced pretty big increases in battery life. A couple of folks, like you, had something go awry in the installation/configuration process that caused their battery life to drop. Some were able to fix it, some weren't. I hope you can figure it out.

The fact that they are now configurable (size and order) has only been mentioned about a dozen times...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
User error
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] shamrock505:
Just moved gear 1 to Tizen and now media controller isn't working - anyone else have this problem? Only volume - even on Samsung music player
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Works fine for me. Here it is controlling Milk on my N3...

You guys having issues should start from square one...

On your phone:

Go in to BT settings and delete the Gear's BT profile

Uninstall Gear Manager

Reinstall Gear Manager

On your Gear:

Long press the power key to get to the menu that includes recovery

Use recovery to completely reset your Gear

When done:

Re-pair your Gear and phone

Gear Manager may still remember your Gear. If it asks if you want to "restore" say no.

If that doesn't work I don't know what else to offer. If you've previously rooted and installed null maybe that's having an impact. Using the Gear on Tizen with a non-Samsung device is also murky.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Tyronnster:
I'm having issues with nexus 5 an controlling media.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] shamrock505:
Tried everything-media player still not working - go back to Android until 360 comes out I guess - hope 360 lives up to the hype - sick of Samsung nonsense
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
What kind of "hype?" Google's managing Android Wear devices tightly meaning no OEM customizations. So the 360 will be like every other Android Wear device but with a round face and an ambient light sensor. Some like the Google Now on your wrist approach and some like Samsung's app-centric approach. That's what you're really picking between.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mikespe:
The only thing I don't like about the Android Wear watches (so far anyway) is I can't answer calls with it. Yes you can swipe to connect but you then need to pull out your phone. The Gear 1 I can just use the watch for quick calls & if the conversation takes longer switch to the phone. Plus I have to admit...the camera is WAY cool!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
I agree with you about those features; I use them too. But I think we're in the minority. It may be because quite a few people are using the Gear with non-Samsung phones which greatly limits the feature set. I've gotten some pretty unique pics with the Gear's camera.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Dmac1984:
That dog is adorable.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
His name is Rusty. He's a red and white beagle.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Dmac1984:
Lol little ginger beagle, he's all stubby and chubby lol. Def a cute dog man!