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[Moto X Q&A] ForestCat:
I apologize if this is a noob question, still I hope somebody w/ the answer would humor me. If one gets an unlock code from the Middleman, could that code potentially be "blacklisted" in any way if it is not used immediately? I'm assuming it's tied to the phone's IMEI (which is in silicon, can't be changed?), so the code should be able to be used anytime? Reason I ask is that this is my wife's brand new phone. My main goal is to be able to root it to stop OTA updates, but I won't have the time to unlock, root, reinstall firmware/OS, etc., for a while. It'll be my first time, so I'm planning on a long day. :) Still, I want to get the code while I can. Is there any possibility it will "expire" before I can unlock it?

Thanks, and sorry if this was answered elsewhere. Didn't find it.
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
Sounds like somebody needs a hug!

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] collinjames:
No, it will not expire. The code is like a key to your car. You can not drive it for years but if you walk outside and put it in the door then it will work. You could also think of it in a sense of the codes have been there all along since our devices were created and we're only now receiving them.
[Moto X Q&A] ForestCat:
That was my belief, just wanted to be certain. Thanks a million for the quick reply.
[Moto X Q&A] toddesmith:
Let's hope

Mine was May 2, 2014. I'll keep hoping he can do it. Otherwise it's just a matter of time.

Thanks for the update!
[Moto X Q&A] nolimitzr2:
I'm in unlock club. Going to trade my phone with guy with xt1053 gsm. Woohoo
[Moto X Q&A] NWKENT:
I'm very sorry your code is not available..we will keep hoping..

sent by my 4.2.2_12.15.15

(Unlocked) XT1080M Droid Maxx #1

http://waynekent.com/page6.html
[Moto X Q&A] PwnCakes193:
Was telling one of my friends about this thread and he sent me this... he thinks the Moto X guy is gonna get caught!
[Moto X Q&A] Vivjen:
Tragic time for my country. You can see these results of "divide et impera" in Ukraine now.
[Moto X Q&A] whymoo:
Has anybody tried to blackmail or social engineer Verizon into giving unlock codes?:)
[Moto X Q&A] :
Blackmail? Do you have pics of Verizon in a seedy motel with a prostitute? ;)
[Moto X Q&A] Wraith91:
I'm not sure when my phone was built, but I ordered it around the beginning of December 2013. I tried the Middleman, but unfortunately I got an email this morning saying that he wasn't able to get the code for my device. Oh well. No harm in trying.
[Moto X Q&A] ForestCat:
Just sent money. Barcode Date: 6/9/14

I'll post back w/ results.
[Moto X Q&A] mushbert:
taobao - no go for VZW XT1030.

As those listings also had other models in the title, I signed up at Taobao and chatted with the vendor:

While that doesn't give much info, I guess the outcome is pretty clear. Seems like those of us with 2013 assembly dates are out of luck unless (???).
[Moto X Q&A] Carrzy:
build date is 10-9-13 for an XT1080.. is it even worth trying?
[Moto X Q&A] ConstantHero:
By the looks of it everyone with 2013 is given the bad news, but if you get a refund I guess you really don't have anything to lose except time and patience.
[Moto X Q&A] Carrzy:
earlier in the thread someone asked if the codes expire and whoever explained compared the codes to car keys. The keys will always work with that specific car... If the codes are like car keys why are there no keys / codes for older models?
[Moto X Q&A] NWKENT:
Because the key maker no longer has access to the blank keys..anotherwords..the provider no longer has access to the unlock codes..only newer codes available..

sent by my 4.2.2_12.15.15

(Unlocked) XT1080M Droid Maxx #1

http://waynekent.com/page6.html
[Moto X Q&A] danny39:
Well that got very real very fast. Hope things get better in Ukraine!

On Topic: My unlock code for 2014 Moto X for AT&T worked and I recieved the email in under 12 hours, this guy is working quick now!
[Moto X Q&A] mushbert:
While we know the fellow is saying "2014 only" now, we also know that there are several people with 2013 devices who did get codes (mostly in the Droid Ultra thread) even after he started saying this. If it's worth it to you... :fingers-crossed:
[Moto X Q&A] Carrzy:
Alright you talked me into it :)
[Moto X Q&A] productofusa:
Wierd....according to fastboot my build date is 12/20/13, ive seen that date a bunch of times. (Developers Edition)
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Its been explained a few times. The date shown on the Fastboot/Bootloader screen itself is NOT the phone build date, it is the date the bootloader was compiled.

To get the build date, boot in to bootloader/Fastboot mode. Press Vol Down about 3 times to highlight Bar Codes and press Vol Up to select. The Date shown there is your phone's build/assemble date.
[Moto X Q&A] lakedubvt:
Just received my code! 2014 build took a little less than 24 hours
[Moto X Q&A] cindirella:
Hello I need your help, my phone is att it was bought in united states but I live in Central America (Nicaragua), I can perform this process if I'm not in united states?
[Moto X Q&A] mushbert:
Yes. The code is not related to your network provider, it will work even where there is no cellular service.
[Moto X Q&A] cindirella:
as I sign up on this website? a requirement is the country and mobile number and not my city listed. as would make the payment?
[Moto X Q&A] underdog1799:
I tried... Won't work, they're too stupid :)
[Moto X Q&A] GigaMill:
If I may ask someone who has purchased one of these 'codes';

Once establishing this code in your phone, is it displayed in a specific location?

From what I gather, every device has it's own personal bootloader key, which leads to my second question:

Does anyone know if this bootloader key is generated, specifically?

-If so, a key generator could be produced, theoretically, given the individual device's IMEI.

-If not, and the key is pre-chosen, then I believe it's a possibility to find said key in the device's information

(likely hidden, and requiring side-style utilities to locate).

Logically, The 'China Middleman' is doing one of the two.

(The latter, I assume, as he asks for the device's IMEI.)

The main difficulty I foresee would be if finding or assigning these keys was kept on record, or received directly from Motorola/Carrier.

In that scenario, The Chinese Middleman would indeed be employed by Motorola/Carrier and would have access to (what I imagine to be) software to find/assign said keys.

These possibilities seem worthy of further inspection, but if I'm incorrect, please enlighten me.

(I would prefer that any attempt to correct would have evidence greater than:"HE 5AID HE W0RKz FER M0T0 BRO".)

Mods,

If I have posted in the wrong location, or you can suggest a better place, please notify me or move this post directly.
[Moto X Q&A] NWKENT:
Allow me to enlighten You..the unlock code is specific per device and is determined (most likely) when the device is produced..

Your questions /suggestions have been beat to death, obviously, you are unread of any forum threads that even mentions unlock codes..

MUCH time has been devoted to "code breaking" attempts..I myself have assisted many ones with device specifics..after a few hours, everyone throws in the towel..

Time saving tip..move on away from the "code breaking" thoughts..

Sent from my 4.4_19.6.3

(Unlocked) XT1080M Droid Maxx #2

http://waynekent.com/page6.html
[Moto X Q&A] GigaMill:
I appreciate the information.

You are correct, I'm new to this forum as well as Android, Motorola, Linux and the like.

I have faith that one day soon XDA will find this method.

Maybe The China Middlemen will tell us his secrets before he's caught. ;)
[Moto X Q&A] Mayze23:
EBay middleman just emailed me saying he/she is back in business. Awaiting response from my response before sending money.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Technically, these are not 'codes', but rather 'tokens'.

[Excerpt from Dan Rosenburg's website (author of the Razr M bootloader Exploit)]:

Token Validation

If the bootloader has not already been unlocked, MBM will attempt to validate the token provided by the user. More reversing revealed that the following logic is used:

The CID partition is read from the device.

A digital signature on the CID partition is verified using a certificate stored in the CID partition.

The authenticity of the certificate is verified by validating a trust chain rooted in cryptographic values stored in blown QFuses.

The user-provided token is hashed together with a key blown into the QFuses using a variant of SHA-1.

This hash is compared against a hash in the CID partition, and if it matches, success is returned.

As a result, there is no way for a user to generate his or her own valid unlock token without either breaking RSA to violate the integrity of the CID partition, or by performing a pre-image attack against SHA-1, both of which are computationally infeasible in a reasonable amount of time.

[End Excerpt]

Without breaking RSA (which would bring down the ENTIRE global economy...RSA secures -everything- from credit cards, to banking, to national security), this is simply not possible.

Yes, Motorola has a "master key" that is used to generate valid Tokens, but not even the middleman has access to the key itself, otherwise he would be able to obtain codes for ANY Moto X, and not just 2014 models. The 'master key' has been used to calculate valid Tokens for Motorola phones, and these 'tokens' are stored in a 'database', likely the same one that is used by the official Motorola Unlock website, and this -seems- to be what the middleman somehow has access to.

If we somehow got our hands on the master key, AND we knew the exact algorithm to create our own Tokens, we would be home-free. Unfortunately, short of breaking into Moto's datacenter and stealing the master key (It is NOT kept on any network-accessible machine), we will NEVER be able to generate a valid Unlock-Token.

As has been stated previously in this very thread, if one were to try to 'brute-force' a valid token, it would take LONGER than the UNIVERSE has existed for.... (doesn't that blow your mind???)

Anyways, hopefully we can put this idea of 'using a key-generator' to rest for good...

If you want unlocked, better try to get a code while you can :)
[Moto X Q&A] mushbert:
Are you referring to china.silk or whatever the username is, who was serving as a go-between if you want to use taobao.com? Just wondering if the supplier is still the same as the paypal guy (and therefore the same code availability).
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
I'm gonna go ahead and assume you have a 2014 model.... but if somehow this person can get codes for any date, keep us posted.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Yes it's chinese.silk.

You're assumption is correct. I have a brand new 2014 model. I won't be able to comment on any earlier models. I'm hoping mine isn't too new for a code considering it was built this month.
[Moto X Q&A] toddesmith:
Victory is mine...

I sent the middleman a Simplified Chinese message each time, asking first if he could do it and then confirming payment via Paypal. He was quick...got the code in less than 24 hours.

I received two codes. The first did not work but the second unlocked my bootloader.

I've got an XT1058 from 05/02/2014 that I bought on the secondhand market for dirt cheap. Next stop: T-Mobile 4.4.3 ROM, radios (if needed) and root.
[Moto X Q&A] ForestCat:
No good on the 6/14 build date. "IMEI not found". Guess it's too new. I'll try again in a couple of weeks.
[Moto X Q&A] s_u_n:
Why middleman?

I have to ask this:

Are people who got the codes in the last 10 days, going via chinese.silk OR are they simply doing a Paypal payment of $45 to :sbdnyy@163.com and simply sending :IMEI+ email?

If direct paypal to that address works, why does one need chinese.silk and/or ebay.com anymore?

Just curious.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Most are using the direct PayPal route. I'm really not sure why some prefer these 'middlemen' to the 'middleman'.... As long as you send the paypal payment as goods/services instead of gift, you can get your money back if he doesn't have your code, so I don't really see that there is any security benefit to going through ebay/silk.

Some are speculating that perhaps you could go through ebay/silk and get codes that the 'paypal middleman' does not have (2013, etc.).

Personally, I suspect all the codes are originating from the same one source and that it does not matter which method you choose. But this too is speculation, of course.

Good Luck
[Moto X Q&A] classic757:
Did you get your unlock code and if so how long did it take? I sent payment to sbdnyy@163.com yesterday evening and have not heard anything yet.

---------- Post added at 11:00 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:40 AM ----------

Just got my unlock code from sbdnyy@163.com and it worked! :good:

Oh Happy Days! :laugh: :)

Take that Verizon! :p

---------- Post added at 12:00 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:00 AM ----------

I went directly through sbdnyy@163.com with the $45 paypal payment on yesterday. Got code today after about 18 hours or so and it worked! :)

IMO that's your best option.
[Moto X Q&A] PopeXXIII:
I'd like to hear if you are successful. I have to return my Moto X due to hardware failure and I expect the replacement will have a different IMEI. The middleman might be getting $90 of my money after all of this. :rolleyes:
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
fastest way to verify build date?
[Moto X Q&A] yamaha83:
just sent in my 45USD... have 2013 device so hope i get a code...
[Moto X Q&A] sivarticus85:
Can someone post a link to eBay listing?
[Moto X Q&A] NWKENT:
To verify MFG date, do this >> with device OFF..boot into "bootloader" mode, then scroll down to "barcodes", then select and at the bottom is the date..

Sent from my 4.3_14.14.14

(Unlocked) XT1028 Moto G

http://waynekent.com/page6.html
[Moto X Q&A] ForestCat:
The China dude said to try again in 30 days, which I will. Hardware failure? What happened? Did you already unlock the bootloader? If so, I'd be very curious to hear how the warranty process goes...

I'll post back here either way next time I try to get a code. Sure hope this guy is still in operation in a month. And that VZW doesn't push some silent update in the interim that somehow neuters the unlock potential...
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
hey thanks for all the help thus far. really appreciate it.
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
should this be possible with a 2013 mfg date?
[Moto X Q&A] NWKENT:
Please read the thread..your question has been discussed many times..

Sent from my 4.4_19.6.3

(Unlocked) XT1080M Droid Maxx #2

http://waynekent.com/page6.html
[Moto X Q&A] Chuckleb0ne:
I think for us 2013 people.... its a lost cause.
[Moto X Q&A] thelogman:
Smash your phone get a warranty replacement
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
got mine a few days ago, curious as to why I got a 2013 build

Also some people are reporting successful unlocks with 2013; but it does seem rare.
[Moto X Q&A] popcornmeat:
can anyone tell me his email and the process you went through, still new. Thank You
[Moto X Q&A] rmjones2006:
read the very first post. SMH

Sent from my XT1080M "Developer Edition"
[Moto X Q&A] danny39:
Might wanna watch saying that. It's against XDA rules to suggest or commit the act of warranty fraud. Just a friendly heads up!
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
it can get a little confusing figure out the chinese middle man, he is elusive; just read this thread scroll through the pages and you should be good to go.
[Moto X Q&A] popcornmeat:
I didnt realize it was in one of the taobao pages, most of them were dead or broken so thats why i was confused on where to find the email
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Nobody said anything about the taobao pages...???

Look at the very first post OF THIS THREAD.

The instructions and email are listed. You paypal the money to the email address in the first post, and you include your IMEI and the email address you want the unlock code sent to. Nothing else. No small talk, no questions, JUST the IMEI and your email address.

Pretty simple.
[Moto X Q&A] thelogman:
Woops, hopefully everyone understands I was joking fraud is never okay even if you can't unlock your bl. Thanks for the heads up though
[Moto X Q&A] danny39:
Yep just looking out for you! I took it as a joke but you never know how others may take things
[Moto X Q&A] Carrzy:
Tried and was unsuccessful this weekend.

---------- Post added at 11:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:12 PM ----------

Tries this weekend and was unsuccessful.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Are you sure you are looking at the phone's build date and not the bootloader's build date?

You're booting into the bootloader/fastboot screen, and selecting Bar Codes... right?
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
yes last barcode. 9-04-2013
[Moto X Q&A] classic757:
sbdnyy@163.com is the email. You simply send $45 dolllars through paypal and your IMEI nuumber (in my case it was my MEID number that he used to get the code although I sent him both IMEI AND MEID numbers. He knew which one to use.)

On Paypal make sure you check off that you are sending the money for goods and services and not the one that says gift.

Do not add any conversation to the email. Just your IMEI and MEID(he will use the right one to get your code) and the email you want the code sent to.

If he has a code for you you will get an email with just the code, that's it. If he does not have a code for you you will get a refund.

I heard back from him in about 18 hours with a successful unlock code. :)

If you decide to do this I hope it works out for you.
[Moto X Q&A] CuedUp:
My phone's date was 12/13/13, and I tried it to see if he had one for me. Heard back in 24 hours....No luck for my device, unfortunately. Filing a dispute now. Ah well!
[Moto X Q&A] aFancyTickler:
I sent an order.. hopefully mine works. fingers crossed
[Moto X Q&A] mushbert:
2013 Devices

I ended up chatting with this person on taobao.com today - from the username it appeared to be a different vendor, but when he spoke of payment instructions he gave an identical email address.

Me: Hello, do you have available bootloader codes for Verizon XT1030 (Droid Mini)?

Unlock the phone home: paypal: sbdnyy@ 163.com 45 $ imei E-mail

Me: Oh, we have discussed previously then. Still no access for devices assembled in 2013?

Unlock the phone home: 2013 can not be unlocked, 2014 can

Me: OK. 2013 were being unlocked previously, is there any chance of this being available again in the future?

Unlock the phone home: There is no

Unlock the phone home: Leave your e-mail address I will notify you

So... I can only infer that there are no current expectations of regaining access to the older database.
[Moto X Q&A] classic757:
It's hit and miss for 2013 build dates. My Moto G has 2014 build date and I was able to get unlock code for it. Your chances are better if the build date is from 2014.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Yeah, that is what was assumed, thank you for confirming!

Although we did have a few, very few, exceptions that were lucky enough to be able to get codes for their 2013's since it has restarted.
[Moto X Q&A] joemossjr:
Got a 2013 too :(
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
Couldn't get a code; it's been a little over 48 hours since I put in my dispute for refund; still haven't received it.
[Moto X Q&A] mushbert:
I believe mine took a little longer as well, but it happened.
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
cool your reassurance and that percieved from this thread is great I got my hands on a new handset; hopefully I receive my refund swiftly so that I can apply for another code
[Moto X Q&A] :
Sent payment yesterday around 3pm. Still no response.
[Moto X Q&A] aFancyTickler:
still waiting for my refund too. since this didnt work i bought a htc m8 and unlcoked that lol
[Moto X Q&A] joemossjr:
So just talked to Motorola apparently every moto x has a complemtary warranty for the rest of this year. And according to them to get a 2014 built phone all you have to do is ask and you shall receive. I asked for a 2014 white moto x after I just recieved my black one and they said no problem we will have a 2014 built moto x white in your hands by Monday :p
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
Also if you are purchasing a handset; get the moto maker. The in store handsets are much older.
[Moto X Q&A] Jersey846:
Also, just to add to that. Something that some of you may have missed... Some newly created Moto Maker Moto X's may be "too new" for China Man to have access to the unlock code. Mine, for instance, has a build date of 5-27-2014. He did not yet have my code. I will try again in another month or so in hopes that he will have my unlock code then. So if you do exchange your phone for a newer one, it's possible the code isn't available to him yet.

Sent from my Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] classic757:
I understand. Just be patient, though, he'll get back to you.

I heard back from him in about 18 hours or so with a successful unlock code.

Hopefully you will be unlocked soon.
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
Got refunded. Thank you China middle man!
[Moto X Q&A] tu3218:
Wait so you can just swap out? Do you just send your old one back after you receive the new one? This seems far too good to be true lol
[Moto X Q&A] Kyanil:
almost 72 hours

This wait is killing me I payed at 7 pm Eastern time on the 17th and still no code. Unfortunately chinas 12 hours off so I have no chance until tonight to receive it, otherwise I'm gonna try contacting him. Did it take a while for anyone else too?
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
Just have to be patient these guys have a good rep so you shouldn't worry too much.
[Moto X Q&A] classic757:
Usually if he has an unlock code for your device he will get it to you in 24-48 hrs. I got my successful code in about 18 hours.

If he does not have one for you he will refund your payment.

What device do you have and is the date of manufacture 2013 or 2014? If it is 2013 then he will probably not be able to get a code for you. His success rate is very high for 2014 build dates. Anything else is hit and miss.
[Moto X Q&A] Kyanil:
Moto x February 2014
[Moto X Q&A] classic757:
Then he should be able to get a code for you. My Moto G date is March 2014. Just wait, he will get back to you.
[Moto X Q&A] jamesc760:
Can anyone here help me? I don't like PayPal and don't want to support them at all, it's a matter of principle to me. I can send Bitcoins equivalent to $45 (0.075 BTC at current exchange rate of $600), or other payment methods besides PP, basically anything but PayPal. Please reply here or PM me. Thank you!

James
[Moto X Q&A] geekabilly:
Send him an email

tapped out via XT1053 DE
[Moto X Q&A] :
Personally, I'd put aside my feelings about PayPal and JUMP on this. It could end in an hour, a day, a week. Who knows. You could miss the boat.

Last time he just stopped suddenly. No warning, just over.

Just some friendly advice. :)
[Moto X Q&A] :
I will be opening a dispute. 48 hours later and no response.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Why don't you email him before you just open a dispute. If you dispute, you won't get your code regardless of whether or not he has it. Some have waited 72+ hours and finally received their code....
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
What he said. If he can't get you a code he will TELL YOU to initiate the refund. Just give him some time; he seems really busy this week.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Didn't know it was taking some up to 72 hours. I sent him a email. I will give it a few more days.
[Moto X Q&A] classic757:
I understand the waiting. Fortunately I did get my code in about 18 hours but for others it has been longer. And he is probably getting swamped with requests for unlock codes since no one knows when this is going to stop. People should take advantage of this opportunity before it's done because dude could close shop at any time.
[Moto X Q&A] MisterSprinkles:
Man, I wish this wasn't 45 bucks. Anyone doing it cheaper? Lol
[Moto X Q&A] :
Don't think there is anyone else doing it at all.
[Moto X Q&A] MisterSprinkles:
Dang, wife won't be happy but payment sent.
[Moto X Q&A] Carrzy:
Just pay it ya goons. Cheaper than a Dev. Edition and you get a refund if he doesn't have your code. Lol

I wish you both luck tho
[Moto X Q&A] nayrb_29:
just got my code, sent payment Thursday night
[Moto X Q&A] Kyanil:
... I payed Tuesday and still no response. Your lucky