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[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
You seem to know so much about this company that the rest of us don't.

What are their production numbers? Do you have a release model? Do you know what their support structure looks like? Are you friends with Pete Chou? Do you know what the terms of the first 100 devices were? Do you know if they will receive the rest of the package later? Do you know what production costs are?

You don't know any of that. No one knows any of that. We all know what the retail packaging will look like, and we all know what the early reviewers feel about the quality of the device.

This is typical though of people on the internet; you're absolutely determined to kill something well before it even arrives. The fact is that as far as the bigger picture behind this phone goes, you know approximately jack diddly squat. The only people who seem to be whining and complaining and raging are people like you who didn't get the phone. Perhaps this is the product of jealousy and impatience? It certainly sounds like it.

Just relax. Take it easy. You'll be able to get one for yourself before you know it. And once you have all the pieces of the puzzle actually in your own hands, then make your doomsday predictions about this company or write reviews and blog posts about how inept the company is.

It is extremely short-sighted to judge this entire company based on the "unboxing" of a pre-release device sent out to just one hundred people. You're not one of those hundred people. You don't need to speak for them (but it's of course well within your right to try).
[ONE General] wilbarger:
Wow, you came off the tit a few days too early, didn't you? You are correct that I have no details of any of the inner workings of this company, just as no one else does. I was a supporter of OP in the beginnings of the company and even overlooked the obvious lies they told about their engineers has magically found a way to fit a 5.5" screen into a 5" handset. Did they really need to lie about this? Did they really need to falsely indicate that their phone fit under another in a partial picture that was totally untrue? Did they really need to do all the dog and pony crap that they did and then have to eat crow and back down on things like smash the past. This company is run by a bunch of pompous, arrogant people that now admit they are in trouble.

I have not judged this company simply on an unboxing video as you suggest. Instead, there is far more than that to judge this company on. I don't know you you have such a burr in your ass about someone giving their opinion while I am sure that you are one of the fan boys that will purchase the phone no matter what they do to you next. I am not purchasing one of these as I have the money to get whatever I want. I will vote with my wallet and they get a resounding NO from me.

Just look at Google+ and their Facebook site and you will see that you are in the minority with your opinions. If this is all the phone that you can afford, so be it. If you are simply in love with the hype, so be it. If you have no other choices, so be it. I have other choices and just choose to continue to ring the truth as many others will. You can log onto the 1+ site and read all my posts. I have the same user name there and am not concerned about you or anyone else expressing your opinion. You might consider the same.
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
Wow. It seems I was incorrect. You don't actually feel jealous about the people that have this phone, you actually feel mortally offended by the company itself, which is an entirely new level of ridiculous.

I'm not in love with anything except rationality and reason. If when the public at-large gets their hands on this device and it flops, then I'll look back on what they may or may not have done wrong. If it when the public at large gets their hands on this device and they love it, then I'll be interested in pursuing the process of buying it. This is what it means to be rational and logical.

Perhaps it's just me, but I prefer to buy things based on their end-result product, not some "scandalous" political gossip that's been pumped up to over-exaggerated levels of hype. Make no mistake, OP is guilty as hell of hyping the crap out of this phone, but rest assured I am not falling for hype.

But by all means, I'm not trying to suppress your free speech. Feel free to continue to make your doomsday predictions and hurl your insults at this company which has apparently slighted you so.
[ONE General] wilbarger:
I find you post amusing. Since it is obvious that we are not going to agree, how about we just not carry this on any further. I hope you like what you see from the phone and get one if you want. Again, I do not have an interest in purchasing one now and highly doubt that I will in the future. By the time they get it to market, there will be several others out that may or may not be more interesting to me. Oh, I also wish OP well as they have employees that need the income.
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
And if this was the way you posted in the first place, I would not have snubbed you the way I did. I appreciate the civility in your post, and I'm not trying to change your mind, I was only trying to point out that for different people, there are different factors involved in buying a device, and in this instance, there are people who are purposefully ignoring any drama surrounding the device as they wait for wider production.

If you feel you've found adequate evidence to support your conclusion to not purchase this device, that is awesome for you (not sarcasm there). Just be sure you're able to accept that there are people that don't agree with you.

Cheers.
[ONE General] wilbarger:
OK, now that we can talk, what devices do you do development for? Are you part of the Liquid ROM group? Loved Liquid for the Samsung phones I had in the past. Also, what is your opinion of CM11S for the OP? I am not sure it is a good choice for a new phone like this unless they completely get away from the frequent (nightly) updates. It will absolutely drive the noob out of his mind with the instability of many of them.
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
Unfortunately, I haven't done any real development since the HTC Hero (which is where my title comes from). I have asked to be downgraded to a Contributer several times but they felt my work on the Hero was deserving of the title. That's why my title is not orange like the new Recognized Devs, because I received that title a long, long time ago.

Also, I'm not affiliated with LiquidROM in any way.

This won't be a problem for the OPO because CM has full driver source and has had months to work on just one device. Additionally, since it's a paid-consumer-facing build of CM, it won't be experimental, only stable changes will be in it. The OTA updates won't be nightlies, you can be sure of that. You most certainly will be able to root and get the nightlies yourself, but for the regular consumer, it won't be the case. I'm guessing maybe only M builds or separate stable builds will come to the device through its own OTA updater.

It's literally going to be just like HTC Sense or TouchWiz for HTC/Samsung devices; everything will work perfectly and it will be perfectly stable. The builds of CM that will come on the OPO won't be the builds we flash on a nightly basis.
[ONE General] wilbarger:
I am afraid that even if I did get the OPO, I would have to flash other ROM's. Love rooting and breaking and helping developers test. I was never a developer type, but do love technology. All the previous stuff aside, OP does have a really good looking product, but they baffle me with their hype tactics. They are facing such an uphill battle with their marketing approach and now getting into retail outlets. I understand that for the first phone, this will keep them going, but long term, I am not so sure. They will have to raise prices on the next release unless they keep riding off OPPO R&D. Sorry, didn't need to get back into that.

Thanks for the response and why don't you get back into development work? You must enjoy is some.
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
Oh, I agree. If I get the OPO, it most certainly wouldn't be stock for long (if for no other reason, I'd root it to get Viper4Android working). Addtionally, with the level of interest this phone is generating, you can be sure there will be a strong developer presence for this phone.

I think their marketing campaign was fine, but I think their timeframe was way too long. People don't like to wait, and when they can't get their hands on something, they will often turn to irrational conclusions (not directed at you). This is evidenced by the current quality of the OPO forums which are (I maintain this statement) filled with over-excited children who can't wait for Christmas. In my opinion, the OPO forums should not have been opened until the device was available to buy or the first batch of invites was sent out. Opening it so early was huge, huge mistake. If the first 100 phones were to be shipped this Monday, the forums should have opened up on Sunday.

Perhaps you could argue that communication and community is good, but unfortunately, at this price point, the barrier to entry for self-entitled idiots is significantly lower, and that's what results in the IQ-dropping posts that are constantly being made there.

To OP's credit though, it seems they are working hard on fixing and moderating the forum, and I appreciate that effort. I don't envy the position of those who have to keep the forums clean even one bit.

It's definitely enjoyable, but the number of things you can do now trounces my developmental knowledge from back in the Hero days. CyanogenMod 6.2 was an entirely different beast back then. both code-wise and philosophically. A lot of people don't realize what the custom development landscape has changed to (and of course, it's no secret that I'm not a fan of the CM team or their work).
[ONE General] thefiqs:
It is a joke. Yeah, the first 100 winners have to get something special. Not something like this. Guys, I trusted in OP but, cmon, I'm selling stuff on ebay price range £1-10 and provide much better packaging. That so lame.

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[ONE General] eckbauer:
Well all is forgiven.

http://forums.oneplus.net/threads/the-oneplus-one-box.12388/
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
Indeed. From the linked forum thread:

Imagine that! They decided that they didn't want the first 100 people who would ever own this device to wait any longer than they already had, and made a difficult call, and they're still going to give them the full package later this month. They're taking care of their customers and they decided that rather than have these people wait several weeks to get the actual phone itself, they were going to fulfill on as much of their promise as they could, and looking at the actual packaging, it seems they're going above and beyond what even companies like Apple consider to be beautiful packaging. If that doesn't tell you that they seem to genuinely care about this device, probably nothing they could do from here on out apart from giving you a free phone would change your mind.

They weren't expecting the level of interest they were hit with and they had to shuffle around their production schedule several times due to the shifting interest to the 64GB model.

This is what happens when you make early judgment calls about things you don't understand or are not a part of. And this is what I mean when I say the impatience and jealousy that people seem to have concerning the OPO is driving them to insane levels of irrationality.

For the love of god or whatever the heck you believe in, please, for everyone's sake, let the goddamn device completely come out, and when it's in everyone's hands, then take the time to decide what you think of it. Have at least that much respect for your own intelligence.
[ONE General] NinoDolce1:
From a marketing perspective (in my opinion) the way this product was delivered to the contest winners doesn't look good. Personally I think they could have done better, they had time to put this together. Why run the contest with those dates if they knew they wouldn't be ready? Not having people wait is bs. Let's see how they do with the other contests.

---------- Post added at 03:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:34 PM ----------

Now you are starting to sound like you work for OPO...
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
Actually, all you've done is validate my initial post. The only ones who are actually vocal about this are the ones who don't have the phone yet. Hm...

Don't mistake me not joining the circle jerk of hate to be that I am a shill. It's just, unlike you, I'm arriving to my own conclusions using logic and reason, where as you seem to be almost emotionally invested in this device and it's launch. Of course, that's tour prerogative, so feel free.

As I said before, have whatever opinion you want, but everything people say now is just pure conjecture the and speculation. Once mainstream distribution happens, if you still have your concerns, definitely voice then and then it'll make a lot more sense.
[ONE General] NinoDolce1:
I'm not judging the device nor the company as a whole. But we can be critical to the Company. I'm judging the company's way of fulfilling this particular promotion. They gave the impression of not being ready to massively sell a product that has created great expectation and fan-base. It did disappointed me, although I didn't participate on the "Smash The Past" contest, because I thought they would do something cooler or whatever. I didn't like it. I read what they said at their forum and I guess it's ok.

I'm waiting for this device to be available so I can buy one and then criticize it and everything else.
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
Incorrect. They gave you and the handful of people like you the incorrect impression. The rest of us are fully aware that to decide whether or not they were ready to massively sell a product, we're going to wait until they actually massively sell the product. If they're backed by Oppo's investors (I'm not going to say they are owned by Oppo because that is technically incorrect), they will be capable of launching this phone properly and there really isn't much more to talk about.

Threads like these serve only to try and toss a bone to those who are far too impatient to get their hands on this device, which I must again state means that almost all of the negativity surrounding this phone right now is based on a nasty mix of speculation, impatience, and utter, sheer jealousy.

Okay, so this is a rational opinion to have.

And this is what I agree with. Every time I see someone drawing illogical conclusions and not following this simple bit of rationality, I will call them out on it as I have done with you.
[ONE General] NinoDolce1:
Yea, they gave ME that impression since they didn't have 100 phones with all their accessories ready to pay the winners after having weeks to put this together. This promotion, contest or whatever it was didn't leave a good impression in ME.

I think you have mistaken me for these kids that post nonsense here and at the Oneplus Forum. I'm not jealous, I don't want this new company/device to fail, I'm not impatient as I have a phone that is working so you don't have to "call me out" so to me there is no point on continuing with this discussion.

Thanks for your time.
[ONE General] LiquidSolstice:
Then in the future, please feel free to specify that they gave YOU the impression, as you only added this detail just now. Earlier you were spouting this as though it was the general impression of everyone, hence why I took issue with it.

I called you out for poor logic. My opinion does not change, but my opinion is not some law you have to abide by. If you're going to make an opinion, have the backbone to stand by it and respect other opinions, because there will be people who disagree with you, as I do.

Make no mistake about it, I disagree with your opinion but I respect that you have one in the first place. I'm not trying to censor you, no need to take that line of reasoning with me.
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[Miscellaneous Android Development] mizan1605:
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[LG Optimus G Pro] souleater11:
hello everyone,

Does the stock Jellybean unrooted LG optimus G Pro e980 comes with a built in stock recovery or do I need first to root the device ?

I was just kinda frustrated, I cant seem to access the Recovery mode. makes me wonder if I have to root first.
[LG Optimus G Pro] luisoman2000:
To be honest i dont think this phone has a stock recovery. Guess you have to root and install freegee.
[LG Optimus G Pro] souleater11:
I tried to reboot to recovery mode using a boot app and there is only a sleeping android with a small red triangle at the center with black backgroud.

its kind of weird
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Halfpenny:
Loving the 1605. Blackberry client working superbly.

On the bottom of the today screen (Vodafone v1605) are two "soft buttons" that correspond to the top half of the buttons either side of the square centre button.

How can I change the left soft button from "phone" to "calendar" ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] pof:
You can use WM5NewMenu to change left or right button to whatever you want:

http://www.saman-cz.com/ppc/nmnovrw.html
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mdajax:
that is an excellent program! thanks for the link! any idea how i would go about finding the commands or parameters for items under settings? (ie, memory, power, screen, backlight, etc.)
[Android General] coolesst1:
hi

i got a nextbook 7 hd tablet a while ago and i realized It was a horrible mistake because they said they were going to do ota updates but i got non and i really want an android version higher than 4.1 , so can I get a new android version by rooting? I'm a complete beginner to rooting and I have never done it so I have no idea how to do it and if it will be beneficial to me. If I can root it how do i do it ? :confused:

thanks
[Android General] redbluedrakon:
I just a galaxy note 3 and wanted to join a forum to discuss android games. Google brought me here, but the android game forum here lacks any meaningful discussions with all the spam.

Are any of you able to point me to an android game forum like the toucharcade forum?

Thank you!
[Glass General] inmnbob:
Well I got very lucky. I tried the Good home trial program where they sent me 4 different versions of Glass with the prescription frames. The package list clearly mentioned that these were non working versions.

However...The good news. One of my units is working. I have a completely functioning Glass for $50. I wanted to be upfront with Google and let them know but they said it wouldn't work forever but it's been over a month and still working. It is version XE13 of the firmware and isn't updating to anything beyond that at this point. Everything else is okay...
[Glass General] ResleyZ:
You could try to manually flash a newer update. If I were you, I wouldn't tell Google :p.

Can you show some pictures from the four different Glasses with the usb ports? Google 'destroy' the usb ports, and send them out to the people who use the trial program.

the XE13 is a software update that never got released for the 'official' explorers.
[Glass General] inmnbob:
Well they didn't destroy the USB enough on one. With the right combination of chargers and cable I can charge it. I don't think I am able to get a computer to recognize it so I have to play with that to get it to work to before I can flash it.

I wonder if the fact that it is XE13 is why it won't automatically update.
[Glass General] setox:
all 4 of mine work but each one has its own problem, one holds battery but hard to see - one doesn't hold battery but has a great bright screen

the other 2 i haven't played with yet.
[Glass General] inmnbob:
Have you connected to them via a phone etc
[Glass General] setox:
yeah they connect to the phone but they destroyed the connections that connect it to the computer

i gotta see where i can find a logic board if its cheap or see how i can fix these pins
[Glass General] inmnbob:
Same problem I am having. I can get all the features to work but can't connect to the computer. Are you stuck on XE13 as well?
[Glass General] bravesnation:
Has G contacted you in any way asking for them back? Or did they just charge you the $50?
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
So you kept the glasses and they only took $50 from your account nothing more?
[Glass General] inmnbob:
That's correct. I also told them that I had a working Glass but they didn't seem to care so I figured my side of the street and conscious was clean.
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
and you kept the cases and everything. Do you think they will try to charge you full price eventually?
[Glass General] inmnbob:
Nope. I got an email saying they were charging me $50
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
Can you please take a snapshot of the email if you don't mind because I might try this lol
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
Also how do you remove the clear lens?
[Glass General] inmnbob:
I just left it
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
oh ok. So any idea on how to charge the glass units because i have my try out kits.
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
Next year they have to because the competition is heating up quickly
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
well you could sign up for the home trial program. then you will have 4 pairs of google glass (semi working) Then you let google charge you the $50 hold and sell the 4 pair on ebay then you will have more than enough for google glass or some spare cash.
[Glass General] inmnbob:
I had success using an Apple USB charger and tried different types of cables until I got one to work
[Glass General] XxCyberHackerxX:
In the process right now lol
[General Topics] jaceuk:
On my tmobile uk mda pro(exec) running wm5,were do i find the pim or contacts file to copy to sd card,to save my contacts

Thank you very much :wink:
[General Topics] mach2005:
You can find the file pim.vol in the root directory of your device.

Copy it to your SDcard.

To place it back after a clean install, you'll have to rename the clean pim.vol (to pim.old or something) and copy your backup to your root back again. Soft reset and voila. :lol:
[General Topics] jaceuk:
thank you very much
[General Topics] jaceuk:
anyone know which file pim.vol is located pls.sorry but i just cant find the bugger :?
[General Topics] jaceuk:
bump

thnx
[General Topics] levenum:
What do you mean?

There is a file named pim.vol in the root directory of your device.

Open file explorer (on the device), in the top bar select 'my device' (top option), and you will see a file called pim (file explorer on PPCs doesn't sow extensions).

Just copy that to SD.
[General Topics] jaceuk:
oddly ive looked there loads of times but lastnight i found it cheers,

i think maybe i was in portrate mode and it was sat at the bottom off screen doh!!

one of those things well sorted now thanks,worked a treat renaming the file and after a hard reset it saved all contacts no problem