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[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
[MENTION=4487948]skeevydude[/MENTION]

"29 is a crappy age. Still young, but old enough to feel old.[/QUOTE]"

ROTFL: 51 years old here and lugging up to 12 marine car batteries to and from my truck at beginning and end of each shift. Still would not want to trade for digging holes and pounding posts in the conditions you described :) BTW been following your work with the MB886 on XDA for a bit and... THANKS!

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Yep, I had just gotten Titanium and removed them rather than freezing. LOL I was really pissed at AT&T after their 4G LTE debacle in NYC and had just provider unlocked and switched to T-Mobile to find that AT&T still had a hook into the address book app so I clear cut anything AT&T with the thought of future trouble too far in the back of my mind. This does makes me wonder about the stock Motorola apps such as their email app which was disabled when the bootloader was unlocked (I think as part of Moto's avoiding liability for unl0cked bootloaders)
[Motorola Atrix HD] IRONMAN-NC:
I am on AT&T stock and rooted when the update ran. Anyone know if will be able root and unlock boot loader?

Thanks!
[Motorola Atrix HD] IRONMAN-NC:
Yep, they ****d us. Motochopper nolonger works. Anyone suggest a work around?
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
SafeRoot -- It's what the RAZR HD uses to get root with the 9.30 JB OTA from Verizon that blocked Motochopper (as well as bootloader unlocking).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2565758

Try that. If it succeeds then try to unlock your bootloader. I'd really like to know if they fixed that exploit too, as would many others here.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IRONMAN-NC:
Thanks!

Success with rooting!

I'll report back when I've attempted unlocking bootloader.

UPDATE!

Motopocalypse unlocked my bootloader in one try, no issues. So it would seem this OTA does not mess with the bootloader.

Hope this helps! Feel free to repost this anywhere its helpful.
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
That's awesome. The last update the Droid RAZR HD received from a carrier blocked both rooting and unlocking. Either someone at Motorola was looking out for us or AT&T dropped the ball on this one.

My parents both took the OTA, unrooted and locked (neither one thinks I know what I'm talking about when it comes to phones...if they only knew) and I plan on trying to get one of their old ones whenever the family updates the contract. We only paid 99 cents so they better not charge me that much :p. Glad to know root and unlocking is still an option for us even if we stay stock....at least for now.
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
Thank you for updating this thread with your results. Congratulations on your success:good:
[Motorola Atrix HD] mframe:
My Atrix HD was rooted, and network and bootloader unlocked. I backed up the stock ROM in Recovery, before installing a custom KitKat ROM. The custom ROM is also now backed up. Can I just restore the stock ROM from recovery, let the system update, then restore the custom ROM, also from Recovery, and not need to do anything in fastboot? I didn't delete any AT&T apps, originally.
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
The root app and binary might give you a problem so you might want to run some sort of derooting app beforehand.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
A question: I think I have a handle on this as well as the firmware bits but am fuzzy on one thing. I've got CWM from MythTools installed so... how do I flash back to stock recovery (or is that part of flashing back to stock ATT JB) and where can I get the stock recovery image? Once I figure that out then:

Flash to stock recovery.

Flash Stock ATT JB

Update OTA (or other method)

Re-root

Restore apps and data.

BTW Thanks for figuring out Root and boot loader. Wahoo!
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
Go to here and download the 4.1.1 AT&T fxz. Inside it is a recovery.img and that's stock recovery. it can be flashed (using the motorola fastboot) with "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img". Myth can also flash your phone completely stock. If you are only taking the OTA for the updated partitions, just do a completely stock flash with myth, do the bare minimum to get it running in the setup, take the OTA, reboot it once, fastboot flash Philz, go back to custom roms.

I didn't figure out either of those. The RAZR HD with Verizon their 9.30 OTA blocked root with Chopper and that's the solution they found. Bootloader....surprised it unlocked actually...I figured that they'd fix that gaping security hole like Verizon did too -- unless they realize they're dropping our support with the supposed upcoming KK OTA and want to give us the option of going custom afterwards even though they can't actually say that...or they dropped the ball on that one...whatever, at least we can still unlock and that's the most important thing about this OTA.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
[MENTION=4487948]skeevydude[/MENTION]

"it can be flashed (using the motorola fastboot) with "fastboot flash recovery recovery.img"

Found that ATT 4.1.1 stuff in my archive and got stock recovery back. Looks a very slightly different than I remember but the unhelpful dead andoid is back so it must be right.

"If you are only taking the OTA for the updated partitions..."

I'm in it for the Heartbleed fix - having deemed the phone stable, then rooted and unlocked bootloader just before learning about heartbleed. After going to stock system I may just rebuild and use my TU backups instead of putting my (only) nandroid backup on it. Funny thing is that if flashing back to stock system goes well I may get over that "flying without a net" feeling and start slamming ROMs around. <<edit Hoping the fact that the phone WAS AT&T but IS provider unlocked and on T-Mobile doesn't cause problems.>>

"I didn't figure out either of those".

I know, and sometimes just thank everybody in posts. LOL

"at least we can still unlock and that's the most important thing about this OTA"

Yep.

THANKS!
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
If you just wanted a heartbleed fix you could have unlocked the bootloader and flashed stock Nextel (Mexican) or Bell (Canadian). Both are good roms and better than stock AT&T. Most of our libs used in the custom roms are from the Nextel fxz, so it's a good idea to fully flash it before going the custom route -- though I'm currently using the AT&T OTA's updated partitions...might be related to the odd signal issues some of us have been having recently.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Was on the fence about just that (going to another ROM) but have been fairly content with the stock stuff plus root minus bloat. Really want to get second phone capable of using the same SIM - keep one phone rock steady while hacking at the other. Thanks for the info about the Mexican and Canadian ROMS. Those will likely be the first ROMS I throw around when I get to that point.
[Motorola Atrix HD] chrismo16:
Stuck at 50/100

I tried using Mythtools to flash the stock firmware so i can get this update. It got stuck at 50/100. I then tried to flash the stock recovery and now my phone cannot boot regularly or into recovery. I did do the 3 button boot and chose fastboot to try Mythtools again but I'm still getting stuck at 50. Any ideas?
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
When you get to the 50/100 part, it takes quite a while to transfer the necessary files and move on to the next part. How long did you wait?
[Motorola Atrix HD] chrismo16:
I would say 30 min. I just got Philz back on so at least recovery is working. I just started flashing with Mythtools again. Should it take longer then 30 min?
[Motorola Atrix HD] magocop:
Error Message on Stock Android

Hi, i'm an atrix HD owner from colombia, i purchased my phone through ebay (it is an at&t unit) and have it unlocked with a code. i've only rooted my phone and it is runing andriod 4.1.1. i'm getting the update message but when i click on install, it reboots, starts the process and then all the sudden it stops and when it boots back it says there was an error. it's really annoying the update message, it pops up every hour can i disable automatic updates? if not, is there a way for me to install the update? thank's for your help and please excuse my english.
[Motorola Atrix HD] audit13:
30 minutes it too long.

Are you rooted?
[Motorola Atrix HD] devilsking:
50/100 is step before flashing system.img to your phone. Normally, it takes time but only about 10 mins for maximum.

I think you should check your cable or driver (update it to lastest if possible). The last solution is changing PC/laptop. you are on Windows 7/8/8.1 or XP?
[Motorola Atrix HD] chrismo16:
A simple solution to frustrating problem...I've been failing at this all day and doing it from another PC was the solution. Sometimes frustrating issues like this can cause me to view them myopically. Thanks for the help!!
[Motorola Atrix HD] devilsking:
Nice to hear you solved it :)
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
It's also better to use the rear USB ports than the front ones. Depending on the PC, rears are directly on the motherboard and the fronts on a hub (sometimes with things like audio jacks). Routhing through the front hub can mess with flashing.
[Motorola Atrix HD] magocop:
yes, i've only rooted the phone, the bootloader is still locked.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
[MENTION=4487948]skeevydude[/MENTION]

Got it going. Thanks for the advise. Had an interesting thing happen along the way, possibly due to the fact that I am on the T-mobile network or I power cycled the phone at a bad point..

- flashed stock recovery from fastboot mode just as you described

- flash stock ATT 4.1.1 with Mythtools.

- A reboot or 2

- manually configure t-mobile APN

- apply update OTA (over wifi, i think)

- After another reboot or 2 I got a prompt about what seems to be part of the OTA update

--------------------------

“There are profile Updates for your phone:

Access Point:

Add: Access Point_1

Please make a selection

Delete, Postpone, Install”

If you click install then.

“To proceed, please enter the PIN provided by your service provider.”

--------------------------

Since I thought this must have come from AT&T and I had already manually configured and tested the T-Mobile APN I Deleted it.

- Reboot test = OK

- Root with saferoot

- Reboot test = OK (I did a lot of these)

- Restore Titanium Backups of All apps and system data (mistake?)

- Reboot test = Fail. Phone freezes at boot just after the AT&T animated logo, never dimming as it usually does a second or 2 later just before the OS screen loads

- Fastboot mode

- Lather, rinse, repeat only this time I configured the APN first and downloaded the update through mobile network. It may be apples and oranges but I was also never prompted for that Access Point stuff and I only restored selected apps and data from TBU. Skipping unlocked bootloader for a while.

Not sure what caused the first boot stall but all good now.

Thanks again for the help, and the recommendation about Mexican ROM. I’ve been window shopping for ROMs tempted to try KitKat but may try that one first.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Taha Haq:
I just got this phone and I am not rooted but I want to root it after one week when my warranty expires

But I got this update and it keeps asking me after every hour to install it .

I want to ask that if I install this update then after it can I root and unlock my bootloader and my phone is network unlocked can this update lock it ?

And is this update worth to install it do we get any new enhancements ? BTW I have no problem in touching the install later button for one week .

Sorry a noob here

Regards
[Motorola Atrix HD] quasihellfish:
The safest (and probably easiest) thing to do is simply NOT install the update yet, and do all your rooting/unlocking first because you know it will work with the current version. There are tutorials in other sections, but everything can be done pretty simply with the MythTools.

Once you're rooted/unlocked/custom-recoveried, then come back here and follow the instructions to update. If necessary, you can always download the update manually and flash it in recovery (like I did). I didn't lose root or bootloader unlock after I installed the update.
[Motorola Atrix HD] chrismo16:
Is anyone noticing increased battery drain after update?
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Was wondering the same thing but, as is the case after any phone tweaking, I've been using it heavier in the interest of testing.Will have a better comparison in a day or two.
[Motorola Atrix HD] chrismo16:
Same here initially. Today, however, I noticed the battery draining significantly with it just sitting idle. I rebooted it thinking a process was causing the drain but it looks to be ongoing. Keep me informed on your experience.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Headed towards my first full charged now that back to "normal" usage. Will let you know how it goes.

One thing to consider is that the phone is very busy after boot. Have you tried to isolate what program or service is using battery? I use a combination of the native battery stats and an app named Watchdog to do this, running Watchdog's real Time CPU monitor immediately after a restart. Just after restart Android System and a few media related process eat power but after a minute or 2 when Watchdog shows it's own process between 1% and 3% processor usage and little else using processor I know the phone is settled down. If you have a lot of media files there are a few processes that demand resources after the phone is otherwise done restarting. When there is a corrupt media file this go on for quite some time. Unlikely after a re-flash but worth consideration otherwise.
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
I'm back and confused as every skeevydude, lol

Knew I should have quite the hard stuff about 15 years ago and preserved a few more brain cells...

I decided to wait until after a road trip to try and update, could not risk losing ICS/tether. So here is what I understand:

- MythTools => got it and seem to have handle on this step

- Philz CWM => got it but not sure if have the latest. can I just use a .img file or do I need the zip with META-INF file included?

- a root zip => NO got. Not sure the best one, you have recommendation? best way to install?

- Boot back up and restore all your backed up stuff => what do you suggest, save the backup stuff to hard drive and then transfer back to sdcard?

I am sorry for being do dense here, If it were not for the popup bugging crap out of me would wait the 9 months went son returns from overseas, I also understand if bugging crap out of you and you do not have time for this:)

I thank you much,

Woody
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
MythTools - Good.

Philz Touch - fastboot anyone?

Root zip - Apparently you don't have a handle on MythTools if you say what you said.
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
Sorry, you are right. But one day you too will be old and not have a handle on things, lol.

thanks anyway for your input.
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
You can do Phiz with MythTools (it comes with it) and Philz will then root you and fix the install-recovery issue.

Just download the Stock AT&T fastboot and flash it with Myth.

When Myth prompts for recovery version, select stock.

Let the phone boot and do the setup. Reboot.

Take the OTA.

From here you can either fastboot flash Philz (fastboot flash recovery *name_of_recovery*.img) or let Myth flash it for you.

Boot into recovery and exit out...it'll prompt about not being rooted and offer to root you...let it...and let it fix install-recovery.sh when it asks.

Boot the phone up and go directly to the Play Store and download a Superuser app. SuperSU, Superuser, etc. If you don't install one of those apps, any root using app won't have to ask permissions to do root things. Needless to say, that's a major security issue and you don't want that.

Install Titanium or whatever backup app you use and restore all your crap. Reboot and done.

Except for the Take the OTA step, this is what I do every time I flash a stock fxz....only I run Linux and flash everything manually versus using Myth (unless I happen to be booted into Windows....)
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
Thinking now the reason nothing has been working for me is bootloader is no longer unlocked. I was getting the warning message up until I went back to stock and took OTA update. OTA worked fine...

I rooted and installed superuser (also titanium backup to make sure was rooted).

Now on rebooting I do not get the unlocked bootloader warning. I have tried using MythTools to unlock bootloader and after that failed downloaded motopocalypse and tired it alone. Says bootloader unlock successful, but still no warning on startup.

When I attempt to install PhilZ Touch, get message "Please manually rename install-recovery.sh in /system/etc/ to install-recovery.sh.bak before continue". Cannot find such a file?

One note worth mentioning also: If I attempt to use MythTools and choose option D to "reboot to recovery mode" I get the android man on his back with red triangle.

Beat the he*l out of me. Time to take a break and get cup of coffee...
[Motorola Atrix HD] IRONMAN-NC:
Try motofail2go to unlock bootloader. Its what I used after running OTA and worked fine. Only difference is, I didn't have an unlocked bootloader.
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
Another dude had this same problem yesterday. The solution is to flash the Nextel (Mex Retail) fxz with RSD. After that it'll be working just fine and all the tools like Myth will flash things correctly. (each sentence is a different link)

Direct link to Nextel firmware

His problem is different that that....a failed gpt flash with an already unlocked bootloader. When that partition fails flashing it can scare the poop right out of you. The only real "fix" is to flash a higher version and hope it works. :fingers-crossed: Nextel's fxz is the highest version we have (sorta confirmed in the Nextel/RSD link above) and a lof of us unlocked people that flashed it early on are unable to update the gpt from the ATT OTA (though luckily everything else flashes just fine, at least for me).
[Motorola Atrix HD] IRONMAN-NC:
My apologies.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
FYI Been watching it for a full day now and battery usage seems to be about the same as before the update.
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
YES! I made progress and updated the thread over at Mex Retail version skeevydude. You are the man!

Had issue but after switching to rear USB ports recommended by skeevydude all worked.

Now just go to figure out if can use the Mex Retail version along with tethering and stay out of trouble with good ole At&t.

Once again, thank you skeevydude
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Are you using Root Browser or similar file management app?
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
Gotten a lot further now:)

BUT tried file explorer and es file explorer. Was getting permission denied error. Tried your suggested Root Browser and renamed without issue. Thank you!

Now try again and see about getting ole Phil installed.
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
If the tethering works you shouldn't have a problem with AT&T. I've tethered plenty with that firmware to know.

All the custom ROMs have tethering and you can tether from WiFi with them. Handy if a PC is far from the router and you don't want to run a cable...or rack up bandwidth fees.

As long as you clean wipe in between ROMs you won't have any issues, unless the ROM has issues...then you just flash another one. But if you don't want the hassle of flashing a bunch of ROMs to find a good one, Carbon is one of the most stable ones we have. And use PA micro gapps and install any other Google app from the market - it makes it easier when you're restoring stuff with Titanium (less system apps).

Mobile or I'd have links.
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
Everything is good now it seems. Got ole Phil installed so must have gotten everything right.

Would like to give Carbon a try, seems like a very good ROM from what I read. Give it a few days, make backup of current ROM and load up Carbon.

Only thing I did not get 100% totally clear with Carbon was if the hotspot/tether works exactly same as Mex Retail. But will research that.

I have said it over and over, but once again thank you (and all the others) for helping me. Hell to get in your middle 60's, ole brain just does not grasp things fast any longer.

Woody
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
The tethering doesn't work the same, it works better. Much better. It tethers mobile data, makes hotspots, and can connect to a Wifi network and tether that to a pc. You can also tether with both usb and bluetooth. I've tethered with custom roms for years with AT&T and haven't had a single problem other than accidental overages. Tethering is one of the main reasons a lot of people use custom roms -- more function, no stupid hacks, or using various apps to get it working.

//well look at the time, wonder what I'm gonna go do?
[Motorola Atrix HD] chrismo16:
Mine looks to be a bit better too. I noticed there were a lot of updates pending in the play store. Perhaps that had an effect somehow.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TabascoTX:
Hey Skeevy,you thinking about doing something with HoloBlur? That'd be cool. Don't like all the issues with the roms that use the CM Device tree. Signal and sound quality sucks.
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
Soon as I get time, going to load HoloBlur. Have tried the Mex Retail and not a big fan.

Don't get me wrong, Mex Retail version BIG improvement over the stock AT&T. Battery last much longer and phone is heck of a lot more responsive. But noticing I drop off 4G LTE constantly and at time down to EDGE. Never had that issue before. Also sound is very low (at least for me).

Top of the day to all!
[Motorola Atrix HD] skeevydude:
Nope. If I were going to do a stock based rom, it would either be ICS or KK based...since we don't have KK stock it's pretty obvious the route I'd take.

On a side note, I've always wondered how difficult CM9 or ICS AOSP would be to get compiling for us. I figure it can't be too much more than changing the JB libs with ICS ones, ditto with the kernel, and "updating" the CM10/11 repos accordingly.

I've been running VanirAOSP the past few days and have been pretty happy with it other than the signal strength (my signal has sucked since CM10.2 FWIW).

I'm also working on getting my old AOSP build, updated to 4.4.2_r2, to compile. Other than some issues with frameworks/av it seems to be coming along pretty smoothly. I was gonna get Omnirom to compile for us, but it's gonna need the same fixes as this, so if I get it working it can maby be used as a starting point for unofficial builds of Omni and AOSPA (not to be confused with AOSPAL that we already have).

EDIT:

Saw that the 926 has a KitKat fastboot. Inquiring about it and I might flash it later on tonight if I get answers I like. If we're lucky it'll work for us with the gsm hack like stock KitKat does for the 925.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TabascoTX:
So what is it about CM 10 & up that jacks with our signal quality? Is it because everythings gone MSM? Seems like everyone's using a "One Rom Fits All" approach. Are the other devices from the MSM roms having the same issues we are? Or is it only the Atrix HD? One last quick thing, does anyone have a zip file for all the original apks for stock ATT? I started removing the bloatware with Titanium Backup and now the new update wont install. I don't really wanna start over.
[Motorola Atrix HD] justanumber:
Good info skeevydude. From what I learned from you, would respect your choices of ROM's

Going to try HoloBlur just for kicks. As you know got the Mex Retail version now. If I use Philz to wipe clean and then Myth to flash HoloBlur I should be good to go, correct?

Feel I have pretty good grasp now but... maybe not, lol

Thanks much!

EDIT: Figured it out and can do it all with Philz. Trying HoloBlur but going to end up with Carbon.