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[Moverio BT-200 General] Vengeance1968:
Follow-up

Ok, so I decided to do a full reset on the hand unit... once I did all the issues went away other than the upgrading to next OS build.

I have Google Maps now along with Gmail, Netflix, Chromecast, Youtube, SuperBeam, etc... everything works, including the DJI software packages.

Using Google Maps and navigation my GPS sensor in the glasses is accessed.

I will continue to look for more fixes and hopefully be able to rely on the XDA developers to come to our aid on this product.

I would like to see an adapter and apk that would allow the glasses alone to work on our phones like note 3.

Thank you,

Jason
[Moverio BT-200 General] cdandre:
upgrade from D1.0.1 to D1.0.5

I was finally able to upgrade from D1.0.1 to D1.0.5 today. Here are the steps I followed:

1. Perform a factory data reset

2. Download and install the SystemUpdate.apk following the instructions here:

https://

tech.moverio.epson.biz

/technical/BT200_DOS1406B_EN.pdf

3. Check for updates (Settings>Device Info>System Updates)

4. If it says the latest is R1.0.5, start the download, cancel it, and check again.

5. Once you see D1.0.5 as the latest, download and install it.

Note: Make sure your device is charging from a wall charger before starting the update. Otherwise, you'll have to restart the download from the beginning.

6. Once the device restarts and the updater says "Complete!", manually restart the device.

My Moverio Apps Market just has a "Coming Soon" message. Is that what everyone sees?
[Moverio BT-200 General] superpicher:
Could you explain how did you Take a photo, using

the built-in camera in the MOVERIO headset, of the 2D bar code information,

I could not.
[Moverio BT-200 General] cdandre:
After starting the camera app, I clicked the QR code symbol to start scanning. A large version of the QR code you need is at the bottom of the document I referenced. I just brought it up on my monitor and pointed the moverio camera at it.
[Moverio BT-200 General] SDTSG:
you also have to make sure every little bit of the QR code is showing. I had like a little tiny piece not showing.. it was tiny and I could not get the QR code.
[Moverio BT-200 General] yerushalmi.y@gmail.com:
uprading

Thanks, you helped me to pass the first step of the photo.now I 2 times the possibility to upgrade with the D 1.0.5 but had this message

Error.Server communication error. Please try again later.

I tried 100 times without success. You might know the reasons?

Thanks
[Moverio BT-200 General] SDTSG:
I have the same message for the R1.0.5. but since the upgrade is working for people that have D1.0.1 to go to D1.0.5, I would figure maybe you are behind a firewall or have a proxy. make sure you don't have one of them on your router that can block the communications.
[Moverio BT-200 General] Rolaids:
Streaming Video Latency is terrible

Noticed you are using the DJI software. What input do you have on video streaming latency? I am using these to test a new night vision setup that uses a low light IP camera. When I stream to an S3 or another Samsung tablet I have the latency is very little. With the BT-200's the latency is more then double and makes the whole setup very unusable. What is your experience?

Any others input is appreciated as I am not a programmer.

Thanks,

Roland
[Moverio BT-200 General] SDTSG:
I did see coming soon, for USA store. So I went to united kingdom store and its open.
[Moverio BT-200 General] Moverio7:
Epson PM reply...

Hi Jason -

Moverio product manager here - firstly, wanted to apologize for your experience. This product was really intended for developers; those looking to build new content specifically for smartglasses. As you've pointed out, we've got a long way to go before it is truly "consumer ready." Also, I wanted to quickly reply to your comments above:

[*]Not Google certified - This is unfortunate and not likely to change in the near term. Google Play & associated apps are only "officially" available to phones & tablets. Technically, Glass does not even have access to the real Google Play. One alternative is to download the Amazon app store.

[*]Without a complete operating system - Our apologies! As an early adopter, you received an early build of our OS (D1.01). Going forward, we're looking to pre-load devices with the D1.05 build - OTA updates will be good to go after this build!

[*]Way too many software bugs - Please continue to submit any bugs you encounter, we're actively addressing them.

[*]Not ready at all for end users - It's definitely early days for this type of technology, where we need developers to first create smart glasses optimized content. You're on the bleeding edge of the curve, having bought before a lot of that content exists! As mentioned by our CSR, we are more than happy to offer you a full refund.

We're in discussions with DJI and a number of users, like yourself, as to how we need to optimize the app and experience to a non-developer audience. As you can tell, we were a bit surprised how many DJI owners have been buying these glasses as an FPV solution. Now that they have, we're committed to supporting them...

Really appreciate your input and support....

Eric Mizufuka
[MENTION=383455]WTE[/MENTION]ric
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
BT-200 on a positive note short

Hi Eric,

I have my gripes (no Google certification / Play store!) and challenges with the glasses too and I sure will get involved in all kinds of usage and dev activities, but for now one really positive note:

I downloaded some 3D side by side films (a natural for these glasses) from YouTube and many look gorgeous!!!

VLC 0.95 needs performance work, but the stock Google Video Player did it!

Regards

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] timclemans:
I've found that the 1Mobile market has most of the apps available in the Google Play store and am able to install a number of apps that the Play store won't let me install.

Thanks for the tip about 3D movies. It's great to finally use that mode. I wish Google Cardboard would install... It gives me a parsing error.

Eric, is there any hope of getting Jelly Bean on the BT200 anytime soon?
[Moverio BT-200 General] Fantikor:
Hello everyone,
[MENTION=5922646]timclemans[/MENTION]

big thanks for 1Mobile market info! It saved me a lot of time, trying to install Google Play on my glasses!

I wanted to address the 3d side-by-side movie display. How did You guys make it work? I tried both: VLC and basic Youtube app (and browser version of YT as well) and i'm still getting two completely separeted screens :( . I searched for some settings options etc, but I can't find any solution to that. The funny thing is: I tried the same thing with my tablet and smart phone, and even if they don't support 3d display, youtube app merged those screens automatically (just like i wanted to see on my glasses). I tried to reboot my glasses several times, play the movie from youtube in browser in desktop mode and ... it didn't make any difference :crying:

My system is upgraded to D1.0.5 of course.

Regards

Fantikor
[Moverio BT-200 General] yerushalmi.y@gmail.com:
keyboard

Hi everyone, did someone find the way

to connect to moverio bt200 blutouth keyboard?
[Moverio BT-200 General] SDTSG:
did you turn the feature on with the button on the side and then using the volume rocker (use button on left side of controller to cycle through features until 2d/3d pops up)? I had no problem with youtube 3d videos. I also played the micro robot shooter which is 3d with no problems. the game automatically kicks in your 3d for you.

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I did. I have an air mouse that is also a keyboard. It solves all my problems if I need to do some major input. I have not tried an actual full size keyboard though. I bought this air mouse because its the same size as the main controller and fits in the case perfectly.
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
Apart from the 3D switch tip:

There is a difference in principle with Moverio and tablet 3D:

Tablets would need to un-squeeze and display the two pictures alternatingly with different polarization, but as you got no polarization / pol-sync like with passive / active TV glasses and no glasses you are out of luck anyway. Just see the blurry result.

OTOH the Moverio lends itself naturally to display side-by-side 3D in its two displays. Just un-squeeze the pics.

That´s why some play methods won´t work on the Moverio. Doing counter-productive extra work.

I don´t think the volume rocker cycles through 2/3D. Left / down is 3D, Right / up is 2D!?

One more tip: I found it more convenient to get OUT of 3D mode by pressing the Back hardware key (instead of pressing the mode switch and then the rocker) when you fall out of the player.

But the need to switch may depend how you started 3D. I tend to start it from ES File Explorer, because I got a better overview from it when there are plenty of films.

On an additional note: I found out VLC plays the films fine when I force hardware acceleration in the settings. Auto didn´t cut it.

Have fun

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] timclemans:
I use a mini and full size bluetooth keyboards with touchpad. The issue I run into is switching them between the two Moverios I have.
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
Bluetooth equipment is rather scarce and expensive. Many are labelled "bluetooth", but actually are old-fashioned wireless kbds.

So I resorted to a Microsoft wireless (non-bluetooth) keyboard / touchpad combo for 40 bucks, which I´m going to use with the Windows laptop too when I attach it to the 55" 4K TV / monitor. ;)

To attach the USB receiver to the Moverio you need a USB to micro-USB-B adapter.

Caveats:

- Android doesn´t recognize the non-English keyoard, despite the language setting.

- A bluetooth mouse alone didn´t work out. I had thought for the few text entries it would be quick enough, but when I clicked a text entry box, the virtual keyboard didn´t pop up.

Possibly I could have forced a virtual kbd with some util, but without the Google Play store I didn´t want to tinker too much.

Finally the real kbd turned out a real boon anyway.

Cheers

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] timclemans:
I use Seenda IBK-02 Touchpad Bluetooth Keyboard Wireless Keyboard Portable Keyboard by Solememo (Black). It's on Amazon for $28. If the receiver does indeed work with your Moverio I'll get an adapter to use with my larger Logitech keyboard.

One annoying thing about VNC is I'm unable to get Windows to set a custom resolution and the lowest available I have is 800x600 (bottom is cut off)
[Moverio BT-200 General] Fantikor:
Of course i haven't used that button... I feel like an idiot right now. Big thanks to You SDTSG!

Thanks for tips and Your explanation. Once i've found that button and made it running in 3D i catched the idea how it works. But Your explanation clarified much as well, thanks again!

Regards

Fantikor
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
Thanks for the 1Mobile market tip!

As expected, the apps *I* looked for were not there.

The lack of Google certification / Play Store support p*sses me endlessly! I never ever cared about rooting or dwelling dubious sites and I had my share of these in the first couple of searches. BS sites that only want to have your email address to redirect you to the Play Store. <arrrrrrrgh>

I stumbled across apkleecher.com and it DID have and download (apparently with some trick from Play Store) e.g. Podcast Addict or Samsung SmartView 1.0 and 2.0, but the prior keeps saying that it needs Play Store to work and the latter fail to install without giving any reason.

<arrrrgh>

G.

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Thanks for the info!

I was glad I originally bought the bluetooth mouse at the local Saturn / MediaMarkt here, so I could return it painlessly next day when it turned out that it only carried me half way and they didn´t have a bluetooth combo in stock, but their staff helped me try out the wireless combo. I like that service!

You misunderstood one thing: I didn´t talk about VNC, but VLC.

Guess I wouldn´t use VNC on the Moverio, because the glasses are hard enough on my eyes with the few things I do with them.

I rather wanted it the other way round. I tried to Moverio Mirror to my Samsung UE55HU7580 to use the TV for all the setup work and only look through the glasses on the go, but the TV says Connecting... and that was it. Need to try out the mirroring with an older ES-series some time. It´s not that picky about connections as the HU one is, I guess.

OTOH one of my use cases would have been the other way round: Stream the TV to the Moverio with Samsung SmartView 2.0, but the app fails to install without giving a clue.

Took me SOME time to find out that the HU series needed the 2.0 version while I already had 3.1.whatever for the ES.

Well, 1.0 3.1.whatever vs. 2.0 1.0.whatever. Get it? GREAT naming! <aaaarrrrrrrrggh>

Greetings

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] timclemans:
Even if you install Google Play like I have in many cases it's unusable falsely saying things are incompatible. I'm in a weird situation where one Moverio is able to install much more from the Play store than the other one. No idea what's causing that.

I mentioned VNC just as a general compliant.
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
231

Re VNC / VLC: Ahh!

From what I educated myself regarding rooting: I guess you used intricately different hacks. The rooted device mimics some low level Chinese device on the Play Store, so installation options may be different.

Regards

G.

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Hi,

I would like to follow up on the issues you brought up, one by one.

Does anyone know how to adjust the sensitivity of the touchpad?

I frequently find myself triggering actions I didn´t want to.

One related issue where I already found help: The manual says you can switch off the display / pause media by a double-tap. Couldn´t get it to work.

It was somewhere stated that you have to BRISKLY double-tap (the glasses near your right temple).

Works like a charm now.

Beware that someone could misinterpret this gesture, but then: They might not take you seriously with the glasses in the wild anyway. <grin>

Cheers

G.

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For some relaxation with your glasses:

I already made a general remark about 3D viewing fun with the Moverio glasses.

Today´s specific hint: Search for

LG side-by-side

promo videos. They look great!

More specific hints to follow.

Have fun!

G.

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I doubt this works without rooting, but I´d love to be proven wrong.

Has anyone got a recipe to install Play (that it REALLY works with the device´s parameters) without catching half a dozen of viruses and malware?

Thanks

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] JRKN:
Still no USB-debugging

I also updated my Moverio to Android 4.0.4. But there is still no UDB-debugging option in the Deverloper Options. What is wrong?
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
ALL Moverios are Android 4.0.4. The pivotal point is the build number, the last item in Settings > Device Info. The latest seems to be 1.0.5. Consumer is R1-0-5. Developer is D1.0.5.

There is a detailed description on the Technical Information Page https://moverio.epson.biz/jsp/developer/dev_nd-014.jsp

Hope this helps

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] Moverio7:
Jelly Bean Question...

Unfortunately, no "official" update to Jellybean is in the works. I log into this forum every day hoping to see if someone has posted an "unofficial" upgrade ;)
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
Hey, Eric, PM, YOU hope for an unofficial upgrade?

Don´t know enough about Android yet, but I guess one would need to root the device for that?! (I ask, because I´m somewhat reluctant to do that. Needs dubious sources?!)

What would a more recent Android version bring to the table for us here?

I would rather see the Moverio certified. I guess you would have $$$ numbers for that. Or what is the problem? The effort?

Thanks for turning up more frequently here!

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] yerushalmi.y@gmail.com:
3d player

I believe we could see 3d with any application.

1. Open the app. and press the video, once it start move..

2. Close it.

3. Put in the system the 3d.

4. Open the app. used from the system (the rectangle) we have down on the mouse.

In this way it work with any application.

Hope it help.

Y.
[Moverio BT-200 General] timclemans:
Yes the Moverio SDK supports programmatically starting 3D mode.
[Moverio BT-200 General] tcboy88:
What is the difference between developer kit and release kit?

My device in on R1.0.0 by default

system updates show R1.0.5 available, but I am holding yet.

(will I still able to root it after I upgrade to R1.0.5??)

Why many people posted that they only want to upgrade to D1.0.5?

What is the real difference between R and D build?

Anyway, the screen mirroring app is really bad.

I can't get my nexus 7 to cast to BT-200.

But I can get my galaxy note3 to do screen mirroring to BT-200.

(I think samsung uses different implementation than miracast perhaps)

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I can activate the developer options by clicking the "build number" for few times.

HOWEVER, I cannot find enable USB debugging option.

Is it because my unit is R version?

How to change it to D version?

Edit: Sorry just realize we can change R to D version following the guide posted by wteric.

Will try it later.
[Moverio BT-200 General] Xenn0X:
Just ordered a moverio to use with my dji phantom.

Is it possible to install play store without root?
[Moverio BT-200 General] timclemans:
It's not. I recommend 1Mobile appstore.
[Moverio BT-200 General] Xenn0X:
Thanks, that looks like a nice source for apk.

used apk downloader to get what i need from the store, will side load them all.
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
Does anybody understand that? I don´t have the slightest idea what 3D problem this should solve or what the application is.

Could you / somebody explain with a concrete example (app)?!

Thanks

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] JRKN:
still not through

Thank you very much! Now it is clear what these versions are for. I found a PDF on moverio.epson.biz explaining the process in detail. Unfortunately the whole process is so sensitve (UI, nework connection stability, server stability) that I did not succese yet. Currently I am in download 5. I got connection errors, download errors, error at restart after nearly finished installation. It took me a day and version D1.0.5 is still not installed.
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
Back to consumer system version?

Is it correct that I could get back from the developer to the consumer version with a factory reset? (just in case I run into restrictions with the developer version that I don´t like)

Or is there an easier way to switch without dumping the updates?

Thanks

G.

One favor I ask for:

I post often and the system seems to concatenate posts from the same user in a row.

Could you PLEASE quote selectively?!

More and specific eye candy tips from YouTube:

I already posted a general remark that you should check out the LG 3D side-by-side promo videos.

One specific gem from the LG collection:

LG 3D Demo - Carnaval - Rio 2012 - 3D Side by Side (SBS)

One gem from my country:

Mystic Mountains - 3D Side by Side (SBS)

Artificial:

Stunning Animated - 3D Demo - Side by Side
[Moverio BT-200 General] timclemans:
I'm on build D1.0.1 (arrived with D1.0.1) and won't upgrade for fear of messing up my setup.
[Moverio BT-200 General] yerushalmi.y@gmail.com:
Sorry to be unclear.

I installed the app. VPlayer and MX Player. With both I could see the video but not in 3D.

I solved the problem by doing what I wrote.

I believe it will work with any other applications.

Hope it is more clear now.

y
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
As far as I can see the two apps are video players?! Why would you jump through such hoops for 3D on them? Do they have special features you need?

With the standard Google Player or VLC you start the video and switch to 3D.

Regards

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] yerushalmi.y@gmail.com:
With VLplayer the image are biger and clear .

I use the VLC which is not more than okay.

I didn't root the glasses and do not have the google play.

Y
[Moverio BT-200 General] almostinsane:
No. If you are on the developer version and factory reset you will still be on the same developer version. Same for consumer.

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I wasn't able to get root using the Baidu app. However, the DJI app is available on their mobile site to side load. It works fairly well. The only issue is that the video feed doesn't fill the app screen and it's virtually impossible to side swipe to bring up the ground station map to plot a course.

We really need a proper DJI app for these.

Has anyone been able to turn off the glasses by tapping the frame? This has never worked for me.

However, the battery life is excellent on these and they are fairly comfortable to use. I'd like for Epson to include additional nose pieces and possibly some type of felt or cotton sleeve for the frame.

I was able to side load the Vudu app, MX player, and ES file Explorer in addition to the vast wasteland of the Amazon app store which really has nothing of use aside from Netflix.
[Moverio BT-200 General] tcboy88:
anyone get screen mirroring to work?

I have spend many hours trying but it just won't work.

I am so frustrated with the sucks mirroring app!!!

Edit:

on R1.0.0 I can get Galaxy Note3 mirroring app to work with BT-200 for once.

But nexus7 won't work.

Now I am updated to D1.0.5, NOTHING WORKS ANYMORE.

on both Note3 and Nexus7, the moverio mirror SINK will just try to connect forever and then failed.

However, IF I use Note3 or Nexus7 (CM11) screen cast, it can actually connected and TRY to enter the mirror mode.

YET, it crashed immediately after TRYING to enter the mirror mode, and then everything disconnects.

Please solve this mirror problem, thank you Epson.

p/s: I have more than 5 units in my lab
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
No luck with mirroring

No luck with this so far.

I could get as far as the Moverio say "Connected" (Samsung UE40ES6710 and UE55HU7580), but no actual mirroring happens.

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Do you have any idea how to switch back to the consumer version?

I´m really not the one to ask silly questions and do my reading / investigations first, but I never saw an answer to that.

Thanks

G.

PS: Guess my last two posts will get concatenated. PLEASE quote selectively!
[Moverio BT-200 General] Flighttime:
SystemUpdate.apk

Anybody have the systemupdate.apk? My moverio arrived yesterday but came with D1.0.1. I tried to update but failed to connect through the OS.

I'm aware you can download systemupdate.apk from the moverio developer site but I cant login at the moment because my registration hasnt been approved yet by the slow guys at Epson.

Appreciate if someone can post a mirrored link to the apk. Thanks.
[Moverio BT-200 General] milmake:
My BT-200 can receive mirror stream from Nexus7(2013).

Here are caputured screens on BT-200 from Nexus7.

My Nexus7 is no rooted.
[Moverio BT-200 General] tcboy88:
Thanks for the information.

Can you provide more details on how you do it?

E.g. Which app do you use?

Do you use the moverio mirror app on the BT200?

Or do you use other miracast app on the Nexus7?

What are the steps?

Also, what is your moverio bt-200 firmware version? R1.0.0 or D1.0.5?
[Moverio BT-200 General] milmake:
I use the moverio mirror app on the BT200 for sink.

And I use the setting app that is in the first picture I post previous on the Nexus7.

No more app is needed.