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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2788943

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ReDroiD™:
Some application Android (apk) have the .wgt inside

Look in assert folder of .apk (open .apk with 7zip) and extract the .wgt ans push it in your gear rooted with adb

Wgt is inside watchstyler, fleksy messenger, facebook notification and some other

On gear 2 forum appz section here You can find a calculator

For now i have not found other for moment

I test to mod some file on csc and other files into my tizen system on my gear for test to obtain gear 2 identification on Samsung store

But at the moment my test are not good
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
Wich apk? From where?

Did you success to install fleksy?

Thanks

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] kashortiexda:
so besides changing all my icons, sounds and boot up sound, I have now (through a LOT of reading! ) learnt how to decompile and recompile Tizen .edj files and can now theme (and modify layout of ) most apps. .. :)

here are 2 I changed so far, weather and dialer
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] JagXK8:
Nice!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Has anyone else noticed the size differences with NE9 and NF1? There is 200mb difference for the newer firmware.

NE9 632MB

NF1 446MB

I'm guessing you cant upgrade from Android to Tizen NF1 as its missing most of the Tizen filesystem.

These files are missing from NF1

csa.img

Ls02-EUR-OPEN-4G-TIZEN.pit

param.bin

system-data.img

user.img
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] hastarin:
I think that's a pretty safe guess. I just upgraded to Tizen via Kies and it took me to NE9 first.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Yea, I saw that with Kies too. It said I have an upgrade to NE9 so I guess that all firmwares will be smaller and you need NE9 as the Tizen base first.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Gurry2000:
Can you tell me how you did this? I have the same problem, but no matter which firmware version I install, Odin fail every time and I'm stuck on the "firmware failed screen".

Kind regards,

Gurry.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
That firmware failed screen is the same as the download screen. Just use Odin again and flash the firmware.

If it keep failing then download the firmware again as it might be a corrupt file.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] titi974:
Okay dude, I can't see where your previous post is, but I can totally assure you that you can downgrade from Tizen back to Android, don't say nonsense lol or people will fear this upgrade saying that nooooo I won't be able to be back where I was now that I don't like tizen and miss all my apps :p

Take a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2776157
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fitspiros:
For gear 1 nothing yet....

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
WHAT? I was one of the first to downgrade from Tizen to Android. I also did it yesterday after testing a few Tizen apps I was working on.

I guess you got me mixed up with someone else.

Oh, it looks like you quoted me when Tizen first came out and there was no way to downgrade. Now there is so that post is wrong but when I posted it I was correct.

And if your having problems downgrading then ask your question in that downgrade thread so people know what your talking about.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] titi974:
lol don't worry dude, it's because I just couldn't find the post and was too lazy to search through all pages of the thread ! And I have no intentions to jump to Tizen until there are more apps :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Yea, I recommend to stay on Android and NOT upgrade. Tizen is crap if you ask me. The only thing good with Tizen is the battery life. ALL apps feel worse off and rushed.

Android for Gear has lots more apps then there are the actual Android apps you can sideload meaning there are millions of apps so which would you prefer, millions of apps or 5? LOL

Then there is the OS itself. Tizen or Android + Null.

if Null had better battery life I would be using that instead I just root Android and use it that way. BUT I'm after a few features only Null has so I might be upgrading to that soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] titi974:
I totally agree !

dude : http://http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53753458&postcount=35

#OWNED ? :D
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
You've said this a half dozen times. Do you have any examples? In (only) my opinion, the Tizen stock apps are better than the Android versions they replaced with no exceptions.

Using null, a stock launcher, and apps not optimized for a 1.6" display gets you a couple of things:

Worse battery life than stock Android and pitiful battery like compared to Tizen.

A trip to the optometrist. No offense, but this is ridiculous. Running through an airport I can barely hit the full size icons better yet icons the size of the trim screws on the Gear's face.

Piss poor performance. The Gear's CPU, GPU, and 512MB of RAM is laughable for running real Android apps.

I asked in another thread why anyone would need full Android capabilities on their wrist when feet away they have a quad/eight core smartphone with gobs of power, memory, storage, and a 1080P 4.7-5.7" display. The closest to a legitimate answer I got was someone using a Galaxy Zoom camera as their primary phone (uhm, OK? :rolleyes: ) making the Gear with null an easier to use alternative.

To each their own and for those that view their wearables as a garage project null's a lot of fun and the way to go. For those that actually use their Gear for notifications, quick calls and messaging, and to reference info without needing to pull out their phone, the choice is Tizen vs. stock Android. The latter's dead and Samsung's no longer supporting it and developers are already pulling their existing apps for it too. No one develops for a dead platform

.

The

only

downside (for me) in moving to Tizen is the loss of three apps: Path, TripIt, and Glympse. Glympse is coming and the other two are gone forever. Giving the choice of an overall better wearables experience (Tizen) and keeping two apps I liked (Android) the decision was a no-brainer. And null didn't even enter in to the picture for me. YMMV.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] c_86:
I disagree about Android being better than tizen. I used null and found it was great for apps and such but useless for anything else. Battery life was crap. Notifications barely worked if ever. One thing is what apps do you really need. It's a watch that was decided to notify you of alerts. You don't need games. Movies. Videos. Etc. I know it's all about choice and all that but really sometimes people have stupid expectations out of items.

Tizen is great for what the watch is made for. Notifications. Battery life etc. Over the past 1 month I have used my watch more then in the 6 months of owning it. Because it actually works now. And lasts a long time.

I ran null and found it useless, all it was used for was a watch. Telling me the time. Thats it.

Anyways. Lol to each there own in the end. Run whatever you like. For my it's tizen
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
My example app is Dice as its on both Android and Tizen. It just looks and performs a lot better on Android.

There are also lots of Android apps that work and look great on the Gear. I have a few I use on the Gear more than I use on the phone as the screensize doesn't get in the way as its got huge icons and pics but the text is smaller on the Gear but its still readable.

And the fact there are more apps in the Samsung App Store for Android than there is for Tizen is also a factor. I read there are tons of apps for the Gear2 and its getting more everyday where Gear1 apps are very limited and it gets if your lucky 1 a week. I just installed Tizen 2 days ago and the App Store had nothing new since last time I was on Tizen about 3 weeks ago. I'm now not going to bother at all with Tizen as there is nothing in the shop and Android has more features that I use. I dont have a background as when I was on Tizen I use the plain black anyway. I prefer it the way it is and will keep it this way until Samsung force us to upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] richlum:
I've had the Gear since November and been on Null since Null 07.

I held off on upgrading to Tizen, but once the ability to roll back became available a flashed Tizen a couple of weeks ago to try out and half expected to go back to Null.

Overall, I like Tizen better for the following reasons:

1. If the phone screen is on, notifications still come through to the Gear. This is useful when you are in a full screen app and can't see the incoming notification on the phone without exiting the app or at least stopping what you are doing and pulling down the notification shade. Now, I can just glance at my wrist and know whether I need to attend to the notification straight away.

2. The overall interface is a lot smoother. I haven't had one pause or stutter when moving between screens opening and closing apps etc. This would happen often enough to be annoying on Android.

3. The notifications are synced well. If I clear a notification on the phone, it instantly clears it from the watch and vice versa.

4. The time on the watch ace updates a lot faster when the screen comes on. On Android it would often take a few seconds for the time to update. With Tizen it updates in less than a second.

There are a few things I miss about Null. The most being the ability to have my Simple Calendar widget on my homescreen so I could see my schedule at a glance.

I also miss being able to use better battery stats to see what is using the battery - or even just the simple battery info in the default Android settings.

I'm also disappointed that MapMyRide is not available on Tizen, and the Android version doesn't work with the updated version of the phone app.

I've ended up living with the reduced apps for the better user experience with the parts that I use more often (notifications and looking at the time).

It really comes down to what aspects of the Gear are more important to your own usage scenario.

Since you can roll back to Android now, it's probably best to try it yourself if you have some spare time over a weekend or something like that.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
To each their own. But if that's your best example and an app that's most important to you then you wasted several hundred dollars on a wearable. And Dice, a third party app, being better (for you) on Android doesn't equal this broad statement you made - "ALL apps feel worse off and rushed."

You'll never be forced to upgrade, you'll be pained in to it. As host apps get updated, developers won't code for their Android Gear apps any longer rendering them unusable. There are two examples listed above. Over time Samsung will do the same thing with their host apps and even Gear Manager. But as long as Dice keeps working you should be fine. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] willcor:
hi

firstly ,i believe each one in his own ..be it Tizen ,Android or Null ??( whatever you prefer )

I was on Tizen ..yes battery life is ok ( good )

The point /issue i feel i must correct , that Null rom battery life is very, very good also !

I have seen a few post in this thread (from members), stating how bad Null battery life is ?

Below are some screenshots ( taken with, wondershare using usb reason why it states charging /// or camera , )

(Overall light to meduim use )

Is Null battery so bad ? ( not for me !

I am just lucky to" tweak" Null... right ?)

Good luck to all and enjoy

bottom line

we all have a Gear 1 (whever its on Tizen ,Android or Null )
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
For me Tizen has about 3 days battery. Android has from 12 hours to 2 days, Null has about 4 hours.

And no Dice isn't the best app as I keep saying its the example app. Just about all apps that are on both Tizen and Android to me look and work better on Android. Could it be that they have tested and fixed the bugs on the Android version and as Tizen is new its got lots of bugs so after a while when they update their apps they might be better but now they arent.

Could it also be the feel of the OS? HTML5 compared to Java? I just dont like the look or feel of Tizen. It feels cheap compared to Android.

BUT everyone has their own likes and mine is Android. My brother loves his Gear2neo and loves Tizen. The only thing I dont like about the Gear 1 is the speaker on the back of the clasp. It should be the like Gear2's and ont he body on the watch itself so you dont have the sound facing away from you. Its hard to hear people when you make phone calls as the speaking is facing the floor but the mic is at the screen so for them to hear you, you need to speak to the screen but for you to hear them you have to turn your wrist over. Not what I call practical at all. I would happily upgrade to a Gear2 or the Gear2Neo just so I dont have the stupid speaker at the back.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jmdearras:
why don't you have samsung store access?

Jim
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] shamrock505:
Have rooted Gear 1 running Android -is there a place where I can see the apps available for Tizen before making a decision? Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Add to the below these additional apps. The screen caps were from day one on Tizen so apps are coming - albeit slowly.

Bug Buster ($.99)

PacMan

Count Addict ($.99)

CNN

Sleep Genius

ABS Trainer

Vivino

Altooma

Details Fitness

Golf NAVI ($29.99)

Watch Styler
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
It all depends on your devices. There are different shops for all devices. You might have a Gear1 but the shop will show different items of you have a Galaxy S4 to the S5 or the Note 3.

I got the Galaxy S4 and Gear 1 and when i was on Tizen last week I could see Watch Styler. My brother has a Galaxy S5 and Gear2neo and he doesn't have Watch Styler in his Samsung App Store but others can see it.

There is not 1 universal store for Samsung, its just like their firmwares for their devices, every device and every region has a different firmware and a different store.

Samsung are starting to suck as much as crApple but they do have great devices. Its not the devices fault its the companies fault that makes it bad.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
I agree
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Here's something I learned from trying to sideload Plesky. There's a Android host app (even though it's passive and only shows in Android App manager) and a Gear-side Tizen app that both need to be installed. Someone posted the full Android APK (Android host, Tizen app for the Gear) for Plesky from the Gear 2. The host app installed fine and then the installer hands off to Gear Manager for the installation of the Tizen app. That failed, probably because the Tizen app failed a signature check because it wasn't being installed on a Gear 2. Someone then posted the Tizen app alone with the signature check removed. I sideloaded it and it installed fine. It wouldn't communicate with the host app and without that interface working wasn't receiving data from the host making it useless.

So, long story short, installing a Tizen .wgt file by itself isn't going to work because it won't be able to access the Android host. And full APKs from other Tizen Gear's won't work because they'll fail the signature check on the Gear side. So unless someone figures out how to modify both the Android host and Tizen Gear files from other Gear's we're going to be dependent on Samsung for apps. For people not running Gear Manager I don't see how the Tizen-side apps will ever be installed because the installer hands off to Gear Manager for the actual Gear-side install. They'll sideload fine if you bypass Gear Manager but they won't be able to get data from the host app; at least if they all work like Plesky.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
It s me... [emoji12]

It s easy to remove signature issue (juste rebuild by tizen sdk) i do that for some wgt with this issue and that working perfectly (just fleksy have an other problem)

But I need wgt from gear 2!! And i haven't...

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2788943

I asked help but...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Thanks for posting the original wgt! I'd have given you credit but this thread's a mess and I couldn't find who posted it. The "other" problem is that Fleksy wasn't able to communicate with the host app on the phone. So if installing the wgt from the Gear 2 fixes that, great. If it doesn't, and the Gear can't communicate with Fleksy's Android host app it'll never work. Every Tizen app that relies on host data needs two components (I think): an Android app for sharing host data and a Tizen app to display it on the Gear. Unless those two apps are installed and are communicating the Tizen Gear app can't work alone (again, I think).
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
We aborted to search when someone post an answers from fleksy dev's saying they develop a gear 1 version...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BigD18t:
Hi people, Does the Gear on Tizen work with the N5 !! thinking of picking one up if it can.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] exitjen:
Yup works flawlessly
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BigD18t:
Thanks mate, are there any good guides to follow.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] exitjen:
Just install gear manager in your N5 (which can be found in the forums here) open the app en follow the steps ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BigD18t:
thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] exitjen:
No problem mate ;) have fun with it :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jason.T:
I went from having android and null rom on my gear and Nexus 5 to Tizen. Tizen for me is way better. I get full notifications without anything extra and a lot longer battery life.

I am running a non rooted Tizen gear on my rooted 4.4.4 Stock Nexus 5.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] longshot201:
Is there a way to make it so the gear isn't automatically taking the call over the speaker on Tizen? I have it paired to an M8 and that is the only part that is driving me crazy.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
I don't understand. When the call comes in, you answer either from the gear or phone. Of course if you answer via gear it will answer via speaker. Am I misunderstanding?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] zebulon17:
Hello everyone,

I have a problem with my gear upgraded to Tizen. The microphone doesn't work and s-voice too.

If i downgrade my gear on Android, everything is ok.

Tried to download another Tizen firmware ( XEF, DBT) and the NF1 upgrade, but the problem is not solved.

Anyone can help me please?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] longshot201:
Even if I answer on the phone, it defaults to the watch. Pretty annoying.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
That's messed up, sorry, working normally here.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
It looks like the Gear is defaulting to the headset mode. Try doing a factory reset to the Gear.

Also remove the Gear from the phones bluetooth settings and resync it.

If that doesn't work go through the phones app manager and delete everything with the Gear icon. Then reinstall Gear Manager and resync it again.

Another annoying feature Tizen has is its now detected as a camera device. If you're like me and have the Samsung dock and charge your phone overnight along with your Gear then when they are both on charge the phone will always load up Photo Gallery thinking you've connected a camera.

Never did that on Android as its not detected as a camera device so its all good.

The more I use or hear about Tizen the more I hate it. Thats why I'm really thankful to the guys who released the downgrader and I'm staying on Android for as long as I can. Well staying on Android till that Android Wear is ported to the Gear then I'll give it a try.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
Not 1 issue for me on Tizen. I use it as it was intended, quick glances to see if I need to pick up the phone, quick responses to texts, occasional phone call, receiving emails. For these things it's flawless. The triple battery life I get with Tizen makes it an amazing upgrade from Android
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] errol19:
Same Here. I find tizen to work flawlessly and great battery life.:D
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dodgebizkit:
I actually get terrible battery life :(

What is new in the latest update I've just installed?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
Make sure you wipe in recovery after an upgrade.. If you skip this step, your asking for battery life issues..

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I had this issue when I was running null rom paired to my note 1... Since I upgraded to the note 2 and have started using tizen everything works as it should..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] trondjl:
A tip for better battery for some: I am on Sony Xperia V. I never got SMS answering, calendar(not stable anyways) or svoice to work but thats OK. But I never got much more than a days battery. But after uninstalling saproviders from the phone, i now get three days without turning it off at night, with movement sensor on. Saproviders just seemed to crash anyways ☺
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] rmont23:
emails

i updated to tizen from null rom today. but i aint getting emails on the gear. anyone had this issue? if so whats the fix? thx..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dodgebizkit:
Thanks... um how do I do this on the watch?:)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] xs4all:
Easiest way is to:

Goto to Settings => Reset Gear

Once completed, when you try to sync your gear back to your phone, Gear Manager will want to do a restore.

I suggest to start a clean slate and start fresh.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
In gear manager you have to set which apps can send notifications to the gear..Once you tick gmail, they will appear under the notifications app..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] advocate2:
I was in Brazil for the World Cup and the reaction to my watch was outstanding. No one I met had seen it yet.

What's the latest on a US Rom?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mikespe:
Where do I find the firmware for Tizen and which region works the best for the USA? I just got my Gear 1 today and have had NOTHING but problems trying to connect it to the Note 2 running Nebula....any help you can offer will be appreciated!!! Thanks!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mikespe:
It takes FOREVER to download these images!!! I started my download an hour ago & it STILL says 2 hours left!!! Any place faster than here?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Depends on what firmware your after? I just posted NF1 rooted in here. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53985567

If its Android your after then that link is where you get it from, if its Tizen and you want it rooted then get the one I posted.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jonahy:
Just odined from null to ne9 then nf1 but i cant see dail pad call log or contact app on my gear and when use phone call has no sound on watch anyone has this problem ? used lastest gear manager from Samsung app store. On a lg phone. Hangout and other 3 party notification works.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] richlum:
^^^^^^

I followed the same upgrade path and call logs and calls are ok.

Have you done reset from recovery on the Gear since flashing nf1?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
Maybe it's been there for a while, but there's a fleksy app in the Sammy market so you can type a response to texts. Also a calculator.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dodgebizkit:
The root video on this section, is ity only for rooting android or does it also work for rooting tizen? thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] T-Anthony78:
Not sure the big fuss on why people are upgrading to NF1, etc. Only differences I'm hearing about are about things that don't work anymore. I rooted my Note 3 (rooted Tizen Gear 1 as well) and changed the build prop on the model number only to reflect my carrier's version of the S5.

Edited: ro.product.model=SAMSUNG-SM-G900A

(S5 ATT version)

This gave me a ton more app choices for my Gear 1. Probably over 100 apps in there now. A lot of them actually work really well. Most of you probably knew how to do this already though. I don't see the big fuss about upgrading the version to NF1. What's changed?? We are able to tweak a hell of a lot more than Samsung will ever give out to us fellow Gear 1 early adopters.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mikespe:
Hey this worked great! My only question is when you change back to your stock model will you lose use of the apps you installed?