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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
If you are completely stock on an officially supported Touchwizz phone, I would advise completely uninstalling any reference to gear manager and then downloading and installing it directly from the the Samsung app store...I did this on my note 2 running an s5 touchwizz ROM and everything works beautifully..make sure not to restore anything in gear manager..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I did that on my Galaxy S4 and it doesn't work. I had to manually install the GM stub. WHY isn't that installed with GM from Samsung Appl Store is unknown to me? Why isn't the stub part of GM too?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] speedyranger:
It's normal to have two apps gear manager on my S5?

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Apparently...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
Is your S4 running a stock touchwizz ROM? If not, what device is your build prop reporting? I have suspicion that the gear manager install process looks at this and installs accordingly..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
It was 4.2.2 official firmware rooted when I installed GM the first time and it refused to even load up until I came to these forums and found the stub then it worked fine. Then I upgraded to 4.3 official firmware and rooted again and this time still the same. When I deleted everything I went to Samsung App Store and installed GM and it again refused to work until I manually installed the stub.

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Its normal. Its the loader then your version of GM.

One is the loader and if you looked into the other you will see its for the Gear1 or the Gear2 depending on your device. For some reason you might also see both verisons as for some unknown reason I have both Gear1 and Gear2 files installed but i only have the Gear1.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Short of completely recovering your phone, there's no way to completely rid it of Gear Manager. No matter how many times I've uninstalled it and reset my Gear (on Tizen and Android) GM always remembers that my specific Gear has been paired previously. There's obviously some mystery files in some hidden directory that might need root to access that always remain. Perhaps those files are why some people have luck un-installing/re-installing GM and others don't. I'd bet if those with battery and pairing issues that are close to giving up hard reset their phones and Gear and literally started from scratch their problems would go away. It takes me hours to restore my phone so hard resetting it is always the nuclear option but sometimes you've got to do what you've got to do.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] kashortiexda:
.wgt watchfaces

hey all

I converted 18 themes from wstheme to .wgt (got tired of waiting for Watchstyler and Multi-Watch to be approved by Samsung for Gear 1 on Tizen !)

Go here for download and instryctions http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53210260&postcount=4774 enjoy
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Leoisright:
Yeah I now use my gear more than ever because the battery life is far better. Not worried about it running out of juice during my day now. Plus everything is in perfect sync with my note 2.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gingerdude:
I'd try the tizen rom but I know someone sooner or later with a brain much bigger than mine will post a working android wear port. For that reason until there's a root back I can't tizen.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
60 hrs, still at 39%, incredible improvement
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tooandrew:
i wonder if the recently announced root method for tizen gear 1 will lead to a downgrade method?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
While I think both will eventually happen, I'm sure the big brained will find a way back to android from tizen long before an android wear port comes along...the former being that much more likely than the latter...

That having been said, every second I spend on tizen only further confirms that , for me the decision to switch was the right one...What fomey accomplished with this product with null allowed me t enjoy my purchase from day 1...but tizen has made the gear what it should have been out of the box.

Like someone said above, I'm using the gear much more and more often...and loving it..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
Can I connect Gear 1 (Tizen updated) to my Nexus/LG/HTC phone without rooting the device? Is anybody be able to connect to Tizen Gear to non Samsung phone without rooting?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
I believe so, check the thread
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
I couldn't find any clear information about this.

Can I connect Gear 1 (Tizen updated) to my Nexus/LG/HTC phone without rooting the device? Is anybody be able to connect to Tizen Gear to non Samsung phone without rooting?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
It'll be in Bluetooth and its seeing you've synced in the past. Remove it from Bluetooth then it will find it new. And if it wants to restore just do a new sync instead.

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We can already downgrade but touch doesn't work. We need to get the android touch drivers to install over the tizen ones but nobody knows how atm.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
I've done that in the past, on both my N3 and N10.1-14. Whatever's being remembered is somewhere other than BT. And it's not specific to U.S. devices because my N10.1-14's from Latin America.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I think GM keeps its backups in SDCARD / .BManager_backup so delete that folder and try again.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
Can I connect Gear 1 (Tizen updated) to my Nexus/LG/HTC phone without rooting the device? Is anybody be able to connect to Tizen Gear to non Samsung phone without rooting? I couldn't find info regarding this. Please help!

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FinityPT, Did you manage to find out whether Gear works with Nexus without rooting?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bballengphd:
[MENTION=5887457]bomavim[/MENTION], about 20 seconds of search and I found 2 posts in this thread that should give you pretty good idea of how things should work on non samsung phones. I am sure both [MENTION=3306459]dd323[/MENTION] and [MENTION=3767251]iBuzman[/MENTION] would be more than willing to lend you a hand if you have issues. :good:

And since these are samsung apps that will need to be installed on non-samsung devices, I'd assume that these non-samsung devices will need to be rooted in order to place the apks in the system/app or system/priv-app folders.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] FinityPT:
Yep

I bought a gear neo and with gearmanagerstub.apk and gmanager.apk(2.1.1...ver) previously installed I managed to get notifications working, bt headset, conctacts, pedometer, sleep, exercise (little limited), heart rate sensor, music player, watchon remote, voice notes, find my device, dialer. And thats it for now...I'm plamning on return the neo and buy the gear 2 with the camera :D

Good luck

And btw, didnt have to root my nexus...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bballengphd:
Well, looks like I just shot myself in the foot...:laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
So is that following assumption correct: in order to connect Android Gear, you need to root the device, but to connect Tizen Gear, you don't need to root?

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dd323, did you root your device/phone in order to get nonsamsung phone work with tizen gear

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iBuzman did you have your phone rooted in order to connect to Tizen Gear?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] exitjen:
Would also like to know if the Gear 1 with Tizen can connect to a nexus 5
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
Is that following assumption correct: in order to connect Android Gear, you need to root the device, but to connect Tizen Gear, you don't need to root
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
Just finishing up on the Tizen battery difference. 2nd charge cycle, normal use, finally had to plug in, still at 10%, 80 hours later.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] exitjen:
Rooted nexus 5 with carbonrom and galaxy gear 1 tizen works like a charm!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] TH3-JUL10:
Hi everyone! i have a question... its possible reinstall Android or a Null ROM after update my Galaxy Gear 1 to Tizen? thanks for read and sorry for my bad english :D
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bballengphd:
Nope, not possible. Upgrade to Tizen is currently a one way street.

Edit, There was a way, you can find it on this forum, but they could not get touch to work when they went back to android. There maybe a way once they figure everything out after rooting Tizen. But at the moment the short answer is no.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] TH3-JUL10:
Thanks for answer my question! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Veritas726:
Revert to android now possible
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Samuel Sung:
That makes still no sense... Even if it's a watch. Why I can not decide how long my videos are?

Samsung loves it to call it a smart watch everything is so smart if you ask Samsung...

Yeah but why is the SMARTwatch to dumb to let it record a video until all the space is taken? It let me make a quadrillion 15 sec videos... Until all space is taken... It should recognize huge videos after sending it to the companion phone he should delete the video on the dumb watch to make room for another... This is not that hard... And it would be really smart...

I got so much photos doubled and or tripled from my gear it's insane... I never took about 800 photos... Maybe 100-200 max...

The camera is so useless in this state... I had a problem with a robbery... It would have been so awesome to record it with the gear... But 15 secs? Pfff...

If we are all honest Samsung failed with gear 1 and 2...i hope apple makes it clear how it should work so we are getting it even better than on iwatchOS...

But I still would buy it again... Cause the main stuff which really is important on daily bases works great for me...

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
yes, you will "probably" need root to copy-paste gearmanagerstub.apk to root/system/app and then to set the permissions.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Samuel Sung:
Nu Oh Btw double post for everybody to notice...

DOWNGRADING IS NOW POSSIBLE GUYS...

Touch is working!

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What are devs thinking about apk files on tizen? Will it work soon? Biggest point for or against tizen working Android apps... Over short or long I can not be satisfied only with this awesome batterylife... Tasker is the keyword.... ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Found it, downloading now. :D

I can confirm it IS a working downgrader. BUT instead of doing exactly like he says REBOOT instead, thats how I got it to work.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Leoisright:
The gear is not a failed attempt. If anything they brought a solid first round smart watch. Nothing that apple makes or will make will EVER make many of us jump over. Their products are for those that like to flush money down the toilet.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tazzix:
Battery drain root cause

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2758364

explains the problem and the fix worked for me on Gear1, with a little downside of Fitness data not syncing but I think I can live with that.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
We? Name another smart watch that can record

any

video. I thought the camera was a gimmick when I bought the Gear. Primarily because the device it had to be hosted by (and therefore always nearby) had a far superior still and video camera. But it turns out the camera was pretty handy. I'm kind of indifferent to the 15 second video limit personally. It's fine the way I use which is for short spontaneous clips. Knowing the limit's there I use it to decide (in advance) whether something's worth pulling out my phone for.

Samsung's sold 1+M Gears. Number two is Pebble with 400K. So using your logic all smart watches are a failure. And I hope you plan to use an IPhone with that iWatch you're looking forward to. And I seriously doubt it will have a camera.

A little schizophrenic, no? I use the "main stuff" 90% of the time and the camera about 10%. How often do others here use the camera? The Neo's forum is a hell of a lot more active than the Gear 2's which says to me, given the choice, more people would rather skip the camera to save money.

To each their own.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Samuel Sung:
You are the type of guy which is more mainstream right? Cause in my world it absolutely crap to say something is good because they sold the most.... Is Rihanna good music with soul and will be there in 50 years because she sold that much? A little ridiculous....

Lol those other dumbwatches are even more crap. I bought mine cause my note 3 is too big to pull it out 2 quadrillion times a day only to see the time. This is the main reason I bought that for. Second is to recognize what or who is sending me a message so I know more decent if it's important for me or if I can leave it in my pocket.. I was surprised how good the camera actually is... But the 15 seconds limit is just crap. You sound like an apple fanboy... You are fighting for something which is totally unusefull and makes no sense on daily basis...

I am one of the biggest Samsung fanboys out here. But I say tizen is crap. Gear 1 and 2 are crap. That are well designed feature watches... Not more not less... Remember back in the days. There were feature phones. They got owned by smartphones... This is a feature watch. Not a smart watch.. Samsung rushed it. Apple will set it to a new level I hope so Samsung can see how it should be... Gear 2 should have been galaxy gear....

For me it's a stylish effortable feature watch... 200€ is not that much for a good watch... But here comes the battery in place... What were they think ing? It's bull****....

Not even a calculator is preinstalled... Hilarious... It is only great after rooting and flashing Android onto it... Tizen is better but no Android apps... So it's again crap...

If I would use it heavy I would hate it... But I am satisfied to use it as watch calculator. Lists with Evernote... You can not even browse through your phones music... You have to change playlists via phone... ANNOYING...

And this from a guy which thinking Samsung's as tastes pretty good and hates apple.... But I am objective... Samsung failed... Crap like bada... I hope tizen is ruined quickly I do not see any advantage in tizen... Only batterylife for the galaxy gear...

Cheers
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
is this really worthwhile dev chat???
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
You have a pretty clear picture in your mind of what a wearable should do. I'd bet 100 people on this forum probably have 100 different opinions on that too. Since every wearable device currently made requires a connection to another device to provide what you refer to as the "main functions," why on earth would anyone want to do anything on a wearable that they could do on a smartphone?

Here's a spec comparison between the Gear and a SGS5:

So fine, using null you can turn the Gear in to a pseudo full-fledged Android device. With the specs above, what's the point when you have a smartphone nearby that's 10x more capable?

This to me is ridiculous. The icons are almost the same size as the screws on the front of the Gear which can give people who haven't played with null some idea of the practicality of attempting to interact with full Android on a 1.6" display.

Let's talk about use cases for the Gear (or any wearable). It's dependent on a host which means by definition it's a satellite or supplement. So the design assumption, no matter who builds a wearable, is that people will have options to perform specific functions - either on the wearable or its host. I love the "main stuff" being on my wrist because you can be walking, dining, or be in a meeting and still get key information semi-discretely. And an important part of that is being able to process that information at a glance. That's why even on Tizen where there's a small icon option available for the home pages I stuck with the large ones. They're easier to hit without diverting your attention. No one here's using full Android on the Gear to get flight status while literally running through the airport. You can on stock.

So, back to your calculator reference. I have a dialer on my Gear. I've never used it. Why? If I'm going to initiate a call it just makes more sense to do it on my phone. Same thing for the calculator. You and a bunch of others here have assumed the ideal wearable is a replica of a smartphone with all its capabilities on your wrist. Some people want what you want from a wearable and some probably feel the way I do; it's a great productivity supplement. Either way it's pretty presumptuous of either of us to assume we speak for the majority. And with Samsung's gazillion's of dollars in the bank I'm assuming they did tens of millions of dollars in market research before they produced their first wearable so there's probably some method to their madness; even if you don't agree with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bballengphd:
Guys please stop bickering in this thread! Stay on topic please!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
It kind of is on topic. What started this line of discussion was that by moving the GG1 to Tizen Samsung is forcing people to choose between staying on Android and side loading phone apps or moving to Tizen to use newly revamped apps and functionality that's been introduced. People that choose to stay on Android will be stuck on the current GG1 Android version forever because it's now non-supported by both Samsung and third party developers. Everything that followed was really talking about the impact of all that on available apps and functionality which kind of ties to how people individually use their Gear. Hopefully people on the fence about switching picked something up from what was posted. If you think [MENTION=4309077]Sam Sung[/MENTION] and my posts were bickering you haven't been in some of the thornier threads on XDA. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
ok... stop "chatting" then and open a discussion thread (this is dev) :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
Not to throw fuel on any fires...but is this a dev thread?..It's posted in the General section with the tagline of "All things Tizen here"..

I think that makes this THE discussion thread on Tizen..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bballengphd:
[MENTION=318960]BarryH[/MENTION], the discussions between you and [MENTION=3333833]samsung S[/MENTION]eems more along the line of comparision between Android Gear and Tizen Gear, of which there is another thread on this forum that discusses this exact same topic. Its true that both of you provided informative discussions, however, some comments and delivery does make it seem a little too much for this thread,

I know I am still new here and have not seen as much arguments as you guys may have seen, however, my wish is that if we can try to keep discussions at least somewhat relative to the main topic, then that would help all of us, including any newcomers who are not expecting this type of things here. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
lol.. sry all.. so used to all my subscribed threads being dev ones.. :facepalm: no offense meant anyone :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
I know, I'm the author and its been thanked a dozen times. ;)

This thread's actually a problem. As far as I can tell, the entire world with the exception of the U.S. has been upgraded to Tizen by Samsung. That means as everyone tries to figure out what moving to Tizen means they have this single 42 page thread to try and find the info they're looking for. The problem is people just coming to this thread today aren't going to plow through 42 pages so the same questions get asked and answered repeatedly. I have been repeating some stuff but more for those arriving late than to hear myself talk. But [MENTION=4309077]Sam Sung[/MENTION] you make a good point. Me going on editorial sprees in an already messy and disorganized thread is just making it worse. Point taken. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Leoisright:
Move along. Nothing to see here
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Sawas:
I have moved over to Tizen and upgraded to the Australian firmware.However I am hardly getting 24 hours out of the battery.I receive a lot of notifications but I doubt its the notifications as I was getting pretty much same number of notifications on Android Null ROM and was getting a good 48 hours battery.

Is anyone also having same issues like me?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bballengphd:
You may want to either reset the watch, I think someone has mentioned that somewhere here.

If that fails perhaps reflash Tizen or get another english Tizen (either UK or Canadian). When I flashed mine to Tizen, I started at about 95%, and after 48 hours of regular use (ie. same amount of notifications as I was getting on null), the watch was still at 55%, whereas I would have to recharge my null rom gear after 36 hours at 25%, as it would not last until 48 hours for sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
gear

Were you able to connect Gear with Tizen to HTC, LG, phones without rooting the device? I have a nonSamsung phones and planning to get the Gear. Please share your experience..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Sawas:
Oh I forgot to mention that I rooted tge Tizen.Could this be a reason why I am not getting good battery life.I have already reset the watch about 3 times before so that wont work unless if the root is the problem.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
When you flash Tizen you NEED to go to the recovery menu and RESTORE to default. That will fix the battery issue. When I first flashed with Tizen the battery went from 100% to 50% in about 4 hours. After the restore it took 24 hours to drop about 50%

Now I'm back on Android the battery goes from 100% to 10% in about 5 hours. Thats 1 thing Tizen does have over Android is the battery life but for me Android has all the apps I want and I dont mind charging it overnight with my phone. So as long as it lasts the day I'm fine with the battery life.

Go back a few pages and you will see the exact same question already answered. Then a few more pages back and it gets asked and answered again.

YES.

Dont worry, probably the next post will be someone else asking if it'll work on non Samsung phones too.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
same battery for me too [MENTION=1397276]Sawas[/MENTION] (using Canadian tizen in Australia) reset watch, didnt fix, rooted tizen was exactly the same. I'm paired to Xperia Z Ultra and presumed it was a problem with being non-samsung.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Nope, I was rooted from when it first came out and noticed no drop in battery.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dd323:
Sorry I was in las vegas the whole weekend going home now and reading the thread . Ok so if you want your gear on tizen to connect with any phone rooted or not all you need is the newest gear manger apk and gearmanger stub apk but if your not rooted some things won't work .. what will work will be almost everything but calllogs, music controls,svoice,message app only but message notification will work just to make it clear .. and you won't be able to install apps from Samsung store endless you side load them idk how to sorry. Notifications work camera calls everything else works all you do install the gear manger stuff I said like regular apks .. if you want apps from Samsung store there's a tutorial in the gear 2 thread how to do it on non Samsung phones but you need root for that . But if you want what I said just install the apks

Search for the thread that has them on here I am sure you will find them a few topics down .. I have my htc m7 Sprint connected to it

Hit the thanks button

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On a different note my gear on tizen lasted me since Friday at 7pm till right now it's Still on but can't use apps it's on time stand by time ..