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[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
[MENTION=1165307]KidJoe[/MENTION]

[MENTION=1573219]megazero[/MENTION]

I took care of it. I asked the mods to move KidJoe's FAQ to post #2 of this thread. That way it will be seen by everyone - especially noobs.

The mods agreed with my logic, and obliged: they don't like to see people posting the same question hundreds of times either.

That's the best of both worlds....megazero doesn't have to "quote" or link it, and KidJoe should get lots of "THANKS" for his excellent FAQ since its now at the very front of the thread (Post # 2) and isn't buried in the middle anymore.

Problem Solved.

:good:

EDIT: KidJoe: You might want to fix your link in this post: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55132841&postcount=1528 since it points to the wrong place now...
[Moto X Q&A] crashtheface:
It's been 2 weeks for me. I get no response from their skype, and no response from their email...

WHAT THE HECK. About to ask for my money back.
[Moto X Q&A] easting:
Just tried for a 5th time, with my June 3, 2014, MotoX. Hopefully your success means he got a new data dump.
[Moto X Q&A] mbkintner:
I'll be anxious to hear your results. I tried a few weeks ago with no luck on my June 25th 2014 build date Moto X. If it goes well for you I'll try again.
[Moto X Q&A] Moe Hailstone:
XT1080m, Droid MAXX, June 12 2014 assembly date, just refunded with no explanation...
[Moto X Q&A] boldfilter:
Confirmed Cricket/Aio Moto G unlocked. He sent me my code and it worked!
[Moto X Q&A] a1exus:
I'm on Moto X (Verizon) XT1060.. how can I know if I can unlock bootloader or not?
[Moto X Q&A] easting:
It's a bust. Just got refunded for the 5th time. I'm hanging it up now. Will wait for the MOTO-X replacement and buy a dev edition this time.
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
Suggest you begin with reading the OP (original post), and then the very well detailed following post. You will want to know your assembled date (so pay attention for the written instructions on how to find this for your device), specifically using "bar codes" via AP Fast Boot Mode (EDIT: added below)

Moto X

AP Fast Boot Mode

Press/Hold PWR+VOL-Down 3-Sec's

AP Fast Boot Mode Screen

Scroll (Down-VOL) to Bar Codes

Select with VOL-Up
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
In addition to what [MENTION=684639]Spey[/MENTION] said, you don't. You can't ask him first - he won't answer you. You have to "roll the dice" so to speak.

If you follow the instructions in post#2, you will get refunded if he doesn't have your code - so no risk.

But I'm 100% positive that if you send him an email saying "Here is my IMEI, can you unlock it for me?" without sending the $45, your message will go straight to his trash folder.

Beyond that, I couldn't explain it any better than KidJoe already has in his FAQ. Post # 2.
[Moto X Q&A] eortizr:
so just to confirm AT&T mid 2013 devices are doomed right?
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
Makes you wonder if the guy with the June 18th build date that got code if it wasn't just that the build date and not assembled date if I remember correctly the assembled dates were all numbers like 6-18-2014 not June 18 2014. His phone may have been assembled in the correct time.
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
I was thinking the exact same thing.

My experience with Moto-X "assembled date" as displayed using AP Fast Boot Mode under "Bar Codes" is formated mm-dd-yyyy (or 06-18-2014 in your example) and/or on the Moto-box (bottom right hand corner) as month dd, yyyy (June 18, 2014).

Edited for couple spell corrects (pesky "auto-correct" rears up again ... sorry)
[Moto X Q&A] omnomnomkimiiee:
Worked fine on a 10/5/2014 XT1052.
[Moto X Q&A] Cyphir:
That is May 10th of 2014 for any Americans that are confused.
[Moto X Q&A] rekids:
Thanks I was one of those confused ones :P
[Moto X Q&A] DC Moto X:
Refunded

I submitted payment on Monday and was issued a refund today (2 days later). No note/comment. I'm not sure if he's done or if for some reason my phone did not qualify (brand new as of July so I assume it was a 2014 build).

Now I fear I have no way to unlock the bootloader to flash a custom ROM :(
[Moto X Q&A] duchski:
RTFM
[Moto X Q&A] toroloco73:
does it work with a Motorola Moto X XT1052 updated to 4.4.4 ??
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
You don't need this to unlock your phone, you can unlock it for free here:

https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/standalone/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a

Only the VZW, ATT and RW variants cannot be officially unlocked...
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
You wasted $45 - you could have unlocked absolutely free. Your warranty is voided no matter how you unlock....so I just can't understand why you threw $45 away?
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
From the FAQ in Post #2 of this thread....

In other words... You only need the Middleman *IF* Moto doesn't give out the unlock code for your carrier/model X on their web site.

Always check Moto's site first.
[Moto X Q&A] skulldreamz:
Hopefully with moto saying they might add more devices to become unlockable, when the new moto x comes out I don't see why they wont add the older x's cuz if anything it will only increase the sales of our x. I mean not by a whole lot but something I just thought about. Maybe wishful thinking but seems some logic to it
[Moto X Q&A] :
Its not up to Motorola. Its all up to the carriers.
[Moto X Q&A] omnomnomkimiiee:
Oh, I don't know, maybe because my phone isn't eligible for bl unlock via Motorola's website.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
All xt1052s are eligible. All of them. You probably weren't using the right moto website for your region. The is a different one for each region.

I guarantee if you use the right one, they will give you the code. The same code you paid the middleman for.

If you use the wrong regional site, it will tell you that you aren't eligible.

Oh well.
[Moto X Q&A] :
This ^^

Also... Sometimes the site is glitchy and says you are ineligible... It took me a day and quite a few tries to I finally got mine. I knew mine could be unlocked so kept trying.

?
[Moto X Q&A] Wansanta:
I was told my developer edition was ineligible for an unlock code. 50 phone calls later, they sent me one. I think it would have been worth the $45 to not have to deal with what I went through. YMMV.
[Moto X Q&A] :
There's always exceptions. Lol

After a dozen tries in 18 hours.... Poof... I got mine unlocked on their site.
[Moto X Q&A] omnomnomkimiiee:
I spent two weeks trying to get the code off of the website. Trust me, the 34euros were worth it.
[Moto X Q&A] DC Moto X:
Stuck

I did RTFM.

1) I am on a Moto X from Verizon non Dev Edition. When I requested an unlock code I was told I am ineligable.

2) I checked my build date in Fastboot (6-23-2014)

3) I submitted payment via paypal for goods and services for $45 USD to sbdnyy@163.com on Sept 1st

4) I included my email and IMEI in the notes section of the paypal payment

5) I received a refund on Sept 3rd with no comment/note

Can anyone who has had success obtaining an unlock code from the middle man please help? I should be able to handle the technical side of the unlock and ROM flash but getting around the red tape is frustrating.

Thank you!
[Moto X Q&A] :
It means he doesn't have your code of he refunded you. Try in a few weeks, or watch the thread to see if any other late June builds start getting codes.

Nothing else you can do.
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
Pretty much straight forward he doesn't have code for your phone. He only has codes for phones assembled to the beginning of May. So for now you just have to wait and see if he gets more. He gives no explanations just refunds
[Moto X Q&A] DC Moto X:
Thanks

Thanks - I was worried I had done something wrong. I'm surprised he did not include even a quick note on the refund (example: "no code").

Stepping back a bit, is it even legal for Verizon or other carriers to keep a bootloader locked? On Aug 1st Obama signed the Cellphone Unlocking bill into law. I understand that I got the phone at a subsidized rate from Verizon...that means I owe them monthly service $ until the end of my contract or an early termination fee. I does not seem to follow that I have to keep the stock software installed. Especially in light of the new legislation. Has anyone tried talking to their carrier? I want to, but I am on a corporate plan so I need an authorized manager blah blah blah.
[Moto X Q&A] bassett:
If I understand it correctly, the August law relates to CARRIER unlocking. Meaning, the ability to use the device on other networks (Verizon, ATT, etc.). This is different from a BOOTLOADER unlock.
[Moto X Q&A] Wansanta:
As was explained above, that is SIM unlocking, not bootloader unlocking.

However, all Verizon 4G LTE phones that have been recently manufactured are SIM unlocked out of the box, so this doesn't apply to Verizon anyhow. Now whether or not they have all the hardware to run on any network other than Verizon is a different issue.
[Moto X Q&A] GeneralSchnook:
Got two codes from the Middleman, none of them worked

Hey all,

I have a Droid Maxx with a manufactured date of 2014-06-14. Sent the Chinese middleman my $45, and got two emails, one with a code for a different IMEI (maybe somebody will want this one):

And then, presumably one for my IMEI (not posting it here just in case).

Unfortunately, both his emails went to my junk mailbox. Although the turnaround was quite quick (he had sent me unlock codes within 24 hours), I was too impatient to wait for an unlock code--not too mention his emails went straight to my junk mail--so I went ahead and took OTA updates through 21.11.21. It was literally one minute after I got done updating that I noticed I had codes in my junk mail! Went ahead and tried to unlock, but no joy, was met with:

...
(bootloader) Password incorrect!
(bootloader) OEM unlock failure!
FAILED (remote failure)
finished. total time: 0.489s

for both codes he sent me. I even tried using fastboot vs mfastboot and even tried changing a few characters that may have been misrecognized, changing the case completely (both were all caps). I also tried the fastboot oem get_unlock_data. I have given up until I see a new code (or not).

I have emailed him and raised a paypal dispute, hopefully he has another one I can try! I am also wondering if me updating the phone caused his unlock codes to not work. Do you think motorola has started updating their phones' bootloaders in an attempt to thwart his efforts, essentially changing the unlock codes for every single phone through firmware updates?
[Moto X Q&A] :
As far as I know, you can unlock on any version... With the same code obviously. Are you sure you are putting in in correctly?

That said... I've read the Moto G people are having an issue unlocking on 4.4.4. Hope that isn't happening on the X too. Cause I think you need to go through Motorola for a fix. Not really an option if this is how you got the code.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
As [MENTION=4036181]KJ[/MENTION] advised it doesn't matter which version you are on for unlocking.

Copy and paste the unlock code straight from the email - don't try to type it in. That's where most people fail.
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
and ... make sure not to "copy" any blank spaces ...
[Moto X Q&A] GeneralSchnook:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure I am putting it in correctly. Used copy and paste from my email into command prompt. Also tried copying the code to notepad, and then copying it into command prompt as well. Nothing I have done has worked. :( I really wish I didn't update my phone so quickly, because now I will eternally wonder if it would have worked prior to updating...
[Moto X Q&A] wrldruler:
Lucky break, I've got a MAXX 6/13/2014 assemble date and I got refunded on my third try on 9/2
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
I was on 4.4.4 no problem march assembled date though.
[Moto X Q&A] Travisdroidx2:
Well with rumors of no Dev edition on x+1 I hope middleman can unlock the x+1 or I will not be buying one.
[Moto X Q&A] slwest78:
Me either.

Sent from my XT1080 using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Moto X Q&A] wooddale:
I think were all interested but this aint the place Im gonna try band start a thread.
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
I've heard differently. Come talk about this over on the New Moto X thread.
[Moto X Q&A] Travisdroidx2:
Confirmed from moto it is not for Verizon.https://plus.google.com/103879265800925397987/posts/CnNpg5SmcSR
[Moto X Q&A] Wansanta:
Thank you for posting that. I don't need to consider this phone any longer.
[Moto X Q&A] reV17:
Well my phone just go declined. Sept 2013 model but it was worth a shot. I would definitely try as mentioned above even if you have a 2013 model.
[Moto X Q&A] nm3210:
Got a code for my Verizon Moto X purchased in January 2014 (first day wood backs came out).
[Moto X Q&A] PwnCakes193:
What is this guy's email?! I can't find it here, or on the reddit post, if I have to go sign up for this sketchy Chinese, yeah I'll do it but with a lot of hesitation. I need this like Rob Ford needs crack.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Its in this thread somewhere.

Actually its in the op. Send PayPal payment info is there. Emailing him does nothing.
[Moto X Q&A] jbrukardt:
Wanted to confirm that I am indeed unlocked on a moto X repub wireless 2013 version with my recently acquired code. Worked like a dream
[Moto X Q&A] Ha1ka1:
Strange that he was unable to get me a code and I have a Verizon Moto X purchased in Jan. 2014 too (with a wood back).
[Moto X Q&A] johnnywayne28:
Got mine December 23rd and no luck
[Moto X Q&A] Just_Jim:
As you can see, success!
[Moto X Q&A] jellman:
wish me luck

I just sent the money for my vzw moto x replacement I got a couple days ago on 4.4.2 that makes it a 2014 my other moto x was not a 2014 wish me luck :D

UPDATE: i got the code! took 11 hours. it worked! i could cry im so happy 10x better than a stupid "dev" edition.
[Moto X Q&A] bravesfan171:
Sent PayPal to him yesterday evening but haven't heard back yet. Will post back with what happens. How long does it take to hear back from him?

EDIT: Received an email back from him shortly after this post and unlock worked great! 2014 XT1060 on VZW
[Moto X Q&A] OaklandZoo:
It has been over 24 hours for me since his last response. I will probably email him back shortly to see if he forgot about me.
[Moto X Q&A] jmill75:
Pretty sure he states up to 48 hours. Mine was over 24 hrs...patience :)
[Moto X Q&A] halfspec:
I just got mine :D

Mfg Date = 11-07-13

Model = XT1049 (c-spire)

Purchased in retail store.

Took him ~ 22hrs to reply with my code. I sent him payment with the most basic info. IMEI and email ONLY.
[Moto X Q&A] OaklandZoo:
Got the code right after we both posted. haha

Unlocked now. About to flash a recovery and SU. So excited.
[Moto X Q&A] bstevens23:
I just got mine too. Backing up apps again in case anything has changed since Thursday and then I'll try it. Sent my money 5/15 1:30 p.m. central time, he replied yesterday morning at 7:30 saying IMEI was invalid so I resent it at 10:30 with a reply "ok." Got my code at 9:50 am today. So technically around 40 hours for me but just under 24 from the resubmit time.
[Moto X Q&A] st0rmfield:
Worked on my new Verizon XT1060 that I bought last week. I am very happy with my phone now.

What I did:

1. Sent paypal payment to the account provided.

2. added him on skype, asked for code, said I had already paid.

3. waited 2-3 hours, got code.

4. unlocked device.
[Moto X Q&A] piroko05:
Worth it

Sent him the money yesterday, got an email today with the unlock code! Hello unlimited tether! Just make sure to use the right version of the Recovery file, I fought for 30 minutes with bad versions of CWM and TWRP. Also make sure to use the Motorola Fastboot files (google for them) otherwise recovery won't install.
[Moto X Q&A] seabass950:
Wait this chinaman can unlock a 2014 Moto X from ATT?

How can he do it but no one else can? Can I still get stock moto x updates if I unlock/root?
[Moto X Q&A] mohlsen8:
Are you saying you resubmitted payment twice and first time you got invalid imei and second time he was able to get code???
[Moto X Q&A] bstevens23:
Nope, I got my IMEI from the barcodes in bootloader but it was wrong or I was high on something :P. I sent him an email with the correct IMEI from my software info in response and he said "ok" and sent me the code today. Only paid once.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Notice it says "only for GSM carriers *at this point*"

Hopefully a Dev edition for big red will come later.
[Moto X Q&A] PiousInquisitor:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y0MKLnTqjLM
[Moto X Q&A] Wansanta:
An insider on AC is claiming the Nexus X will come to Verizon but that it is a phablet.
[Moto X Q&A] GeneralSchnook:
That offer's some consolation. I was reading about the Moto G problem, and it sounds like Motorola messed up something with the bootloader for 4.4.4 that made unlock codes not work (at least on the Moto G). I really hope that's not the case for the Maxx, but I would advise holding off on updating if you are planning to unlock via the China Middleman.
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Just FYI everybody:

jcase has confirmed that support for Moto BL unlock is being added to the "Sunshine" unlock app SOON.

The cost is $25. Much cheaper than middleman.

Caveats: It MIGHT not work for those of you who updated to 4.4.4 - we will have to wait and see. Anyone who hasn't already updated, HOLD OFF ON ANY AND ALL OTA UPDATES UNTIL YOU GET UNLOCKED.

Discussion taking place here: http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/request-help-exploit-moto-x-bl-t2828471

Cross your fingers! And don't update. Remember: I warned everyone long ago to not take any OTAs if you wanted to be able to use a future exploit.

It hasn't been completely confirmed that 4.4.4 patches the exploit, but it is likely. Especially for the carriers that recently got the update: Sprint & AT&T. Fingers crossed that the VZW variants (who received 4.4.4 first) are not patched. Only time will tell - so please don't ask. No one knows, and probably won't know until the exploit is released.

If you appreciate this news being brought to your attention, hit the THANKS button!
[Moto X Q&A] GeneralSchnook:
Wow, that's great news! Considering that the Droid Maxx 4.4.4 (version 21.11.21) was released before Dan revealed the TZ exploit, I think there's a high likelihood that it is still vulnerable. WOOT!
[Moto X Q&A] mtcrew:
Yea but can't we just unlock the sim and use the dev phone on Verizon or is the hardware different on the gsm phones?
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Verizon is a CDMA carrier. GSM phones do not work on Verizon...they lack the CDMA hardware...
[Moto X Q&A] MarcoDiamond:
I think you mean they lack the CDMA hardware. In addition, Verizon must whitelist the IMEI of a device for it to be able to run on Verizon's network. So only Verizon branded devices will work on Verizon's network both because no other phones have the Verizon CDMA binaries and because only the IMEI's of Verizon branded devices are whitelisted.

Interestingly, all of the newer Verizon 4G LTE phones are GSM SIM unlocked and fully capable of working on the US GSM carriers' networks with the exception of some 4G LTE bands on some of the phones. IIRC the Verizon iPhone 5s works fine on ATT and TMobile.
[Moto X Q&A] smartazz69:
Do you have the email for China Middleman?
[Moto X Q&A] ConstantHero:
Use your smartzz and read. Maybe the first post might hold your answer. Just a thought.
[Moto X Q&A] smartazz69:
WOW That was a great idea you had. I had over looked it. I appreciate your kind suggestion and may God Bless You :)
[Moto X Q&A] Toys Samurai:
I will bet 1 cent that it will not happen.
[Moto X Q&A] Wansanta:
After finding out that there is no new Moto X dev ed, it would be incredibly surprising for there to be a Verizon Nexus X. However, the guy who is tipping everyone off on AC has been correct on every single detail he leaked about the new Moto X way before any leak sites leaked the info. Actually, he was the only one who was 100% correct.

He says it is confirmed that Verizon is getting the Motorola Shamu and that it is a Nexus phablet. He's held the prototype and it was a Verizon prototype.

He does not work for Motorola - his friend does and his friend lets him play with the prototypes. I wish I had friends like that!!!
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
Sorry, but I am having a hard time following how this is related to China Middleman Bootloader Unlock of current Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] Verttex:
I agree, talk about this in a different thread. Only discussion about the China Middleman should be in this thread.
[Moto X Q&A] duchski:
What was the latest successfully unlocked build date for moto x at&t?
[Moto X Q&A] scottshebs:
I just sent money tosbdnyy@163.com and my IMEI. I sent it at 7:33 pm.
[Moto X Q&A] scottshebs:
Nothing as of 1 pm
[Moto X Q&A] duchski:
Thats ok. We dont need hourly updates. Lol Just state your phone model and build date and if you gotten a response in about a week.;)
[Moto X Q&A] brainwash1:
It can take a couple of days. Unless you sent it as a gift, you will either get a code or a refund. Don't forget to check your spam folder.
[Moto X Q&A] scottshebs:
Nothing as of 5 pm
[Moto X Q&A] brainwash1:
How about now?
[Moto X Q&A] k_t_b:
I just PayPaled $45 to sbdnyy@163.com with IMEI and email address in the notes. It's for a RW 4.2.2 Moto X (11-26-2013). I'll update with news.

Edit: Oh no... I'm assuming I screwed up. I sent the IMEI listed in Settings>About phone>Status instead of the IMEI/MEID listed in the Bar Codes screen.

Can anybody confirm which IMEI code worked for Republic Wireless?
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Have you compared the two? they should be the same.
[Moto X Q&A] k_t_b:
Thanks for the reply. Yes, I've compared them. The reason I'm confused is that the numbers are different.

The label on the box for my Republic Wireless XT1049 (4.2.2, rooted, WP-off) has a 14 digit number listed as the MEID(HEX).

In Settings>About phone>Status, I see the same 14 digit number MEID as is listed as the MEID(HEX) on the box. OK, that makes sense. So, the next line here is the listing for IMEI. The IMEI number listed here is almost the same as the MEID, the only difference being that the listed IMEI is one digit longer -- 15 digits instead of 14 (so it's the 14 digit MEID with a "9" on the end in this case).

So, moving on to the Bar Codes screen, listed as the IMEI/MEID I see an 18 digit number that is nothing like the MEID that is listed on the box and/or the MEID and IMEI numbers listed in Settings>About phone>Status.

Any ideas?
[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
I have pointed this out multiple times, but here goes again....

MEID and IMEI ***are the same thing***. The IMEI is the MEID with 1 additional checksum digit. The Middleman is well aware of this. Either will work fine.

As for the 18-digit IMEI, that is the "decimal" imei. It is the ***same number*** as the 14/15 digit numbers, except it is in decimal instead of hexadecimal.

It doesn't matter which you send to the middleman, he is smart enough to know how to convert them....

Want me to prove it? http://www.meidconverter.net/

Put in any one of the "IMEI" or "MEID" numbers, and it will show you the decimal and hexadecimal equivalents.

You need not worry.
[Moto X Q&A] scottshebs:
nothing as of 48 hours
[Moto X Q&A] brainwash1:
Pssst... Nobody cares. Waiting for http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2828471

Coming soon: BL Unlock for Moto Devices (Read This!!!)
[Moto X Q&A] Spey:
Hmmm ..., baiting then sarcaism at the expense if others ...

Please consider/explain to me; it was my assumption that Sunshine may not work on devices that had taken the OTA to 4.4.4. leaving many folks out. Also my assumption that for these devices the China Middleman option may still be viable BL Unlock solution (as it is my understanding the unlock code list is a master-unlock code list for each specific device IMEI) vs. an exploit of the Trust Zone as a means of achieving unlocked bootloader.

So, one method (China Middleman) being using a factory generated key to unlock, the other (Sunshine) being a security hack/exploit. Not saying one is right/wrong or better/worse, just that each may apply to differing situations providing alternate solutions and therefore both still relevant ...?
[Moto X Q&A] brainwash1:
Until it is released, we won't know what versions it works for. If it works for a particular device, the end result will be the same: an unlocked bootloader.