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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Alarand:
It is our fault for buying the damn thing no doubt but you might expect a company that prides itself in helping customers to, you know, try to help customers.

Assuming you buy the handset from them they are forcing you to use their software (by purposefully locking the bootloader) and therefore comply with the t/c pertaining to their software. If we could use the stock international rom it would be samsung's t/c or whoever else respectively, -not att's being the important thing.

It doesn't say you are forced to use an att handset which lets them ignore the issue by putting the blame on you.

*You, the customer, are to blame for not being aware of our decision to lock the bootloader on our devices, we can unlock it but we choose not to, you should have gone to t-mobile for the handset*

I mean after talking to multiple att reps they pretty much all say simply "att does not support unlocked bootloaders" but this seems worded in a way that doesn't acknowledge they are actively combating unlocked bootloaders. I can't really comprehend how network security is effectively locked down if they still allow other handsets with unlocked bootloaders onto their network.

It's really just a big smokescreen to nab them a few extra $$ at the expense of customers being able to do what they want with devices they purchase. Less functionality = less that can go wrong.

I suppose let my money do the talking in the future because it's the only thing they care about.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
Lol no we're not. Because we all have a choice at the end of the day. Luckily for us, we can get a T-Mobile version, unlock it and use it on AT&T and enjoy the unlocked bootloader. Or we can get another phone like the M8 and root it too. There always is a choice.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nick James:
Maybe I should look into this.

The T-Mobile device has the same specs but just needs to be unlocked? All this is avaliable on XDA?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Trekboy:
Curse you AT&T. My phone rebooted itself and upgraded last night. Sigh...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
You can purchase an unlock code for $30 online. You'll have an unlocked bootloader, lte and you'll be rooted and be able to flash roms.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nick James:
So same 100% functionality? All I do is walk into T-Mobile and pay the man or buy one off eBay?

Where do I sell my S5 currently?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
You can sell it on Craigslist or swappa.Com.

You can try buying it at T-Mobile, just tell them it's a gift for someone. Then you unlock it and you'll have 100% functionality. Unlocked bootloader, lte, freedom.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ozziedog:
So T/Mobile and at&t have the same LTE frequency?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
Trust me, I know full well your answers would pretty much be SPOT on considering the post I responded to.

So what your saying is that you actually read 20-40-100+ pages of T&C's on EVERY single thign you buy / sign up for...Cool. I dont. I read SOME of them. I dont read the rest because I realize living in the year 2014 and deciding NOT to live in a cave or in an unheated house in the middle of BFE, requires me to maintain a job in which I make good money and can support my family on more than Kraft Mac & Cheese.

This decision required my intelligence, as does my ability to OWN and operate a few PROFITABLE businesses. So your comment about my intelligence is duly noted, and as such I take exception to it since you dont personally know me and therefore you dont know my skill level.

This leads to Choice, which I already covered. No phone = working as a line worker in a factory making 1/5th what I make now. I CHOOSE to better my entire life-style, such as the ability to afford the computer and high speed internet connection I am writing from. I also Choose to take $10,000 contract projects that I can complete in 4 weeks. Both of which REQUIRE me to be technologically connected and savvy. I do NOT however CHOOSE to be subject to these carriers and their intrusive and domineering policies...I am FORCED to PARTICIPATE in them at the time being due to the situation at hand which I plan on changing once I have the time.

Yes I am a VERY VERY lazy person...Obviously very very lazy.

Thank you for your comments and I commend you for having the TIME to read everything for every product you purchase, use, etc. If I had that kind of time I would be spending it with my kids playing ball, and still saying it like it is: ATT and VZN's POLICIES SUCK ROTTEN EGG CRAP, and I SHOULD NOT have to read hours worth of T&C's in order TO USE A PHONE OR INTERNET CONNECTION.

Period.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] yoonus:
auto update

It asked me 2-3 times to install the update. Each time I selected "postpond". But yesterday, I saw this screen (see attached). It didn't give any option and said update will start in 30 sec. Luckily for me, battery was down to 6% and update didn't start.

I have always had "ATT software update" process killed. I make sure this is not running atleast once a day. Still update notification came.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
Let me go OT for a second and put some positive in here. I absolutely love the S5. I wish we had root and I may switch to the T mobile version but honestly this phone is awesome. It's perfect for me.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
100+ pages and hours of reading? What are you looking at. A few minutes on the Internet is all it takes. And if a few minutes every year or two years (depending on when you update devices / service) makes it so you cant't play ball with your kids you might want to examine the rest of your life. I'm not sure what owning businesses or being profitable has to do with this thread, but any business man knows to read thoroughly what comes across their desk before they sign or agree to it. The bottom line is if you agree to it, stop complaining about it, step up and take responsibility for it. Like I said earlier, i don't like AT&T's tactics either, but I CHOOSE to use their network (no one made me), so you don't see me complaining about it or making excuses.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
you appear to be picking and choosing which words I write to reference. And I feel also the point Im attempting to make is not being taken:

To simplify it:

It is PURE BS, that I cannot Buy a phone and use it the way I would like since I am an adult. Then again the phone companies have gone from selling to mostly adults who had cel phones in the 90's because we business people used them as business devices, to selling recreational devices that are now geared primarily toward children or adolescents using them as their concept of communicating with friends. Of which I am not a party to...I have no FB account, and dont need or want one.

I am thus Voicing my disdain for said new generation of T&C's which are shoved upon me with the only real "Choice" being to NOT have a phone that I can Email, Call, Navigate, Open PDF's to view plans, and otherwise DO BUSINESS ON, without having Big Brother Tell me, like the children, HOW to use my device.

I dont care WHAT the T&C's say...I think they are BS and are Out of Line. 1 page, or 100.

Just like how coffee ups from mac's have to tell people the contents are "hot" - signs signs EVERYWHERE signs. I digress.

Point is, as the OP of this thread stated: BEWARE! Auto Update! This is LAST Straw - T&C aside, we non-sheeple are fed-up and WILL find a way to tell the carriers where to shove their T&C's.

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What features of the S5 do you like over what the S3 (or S4) offered?

Just out of curiosity, not in a sarcastic way...I just want to know. I LOVED my S3, and am missing many features.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
First, I like the size of the phone. Love the material in the back, it's nice and grippy compared to the slimy S3 and s4 backs. Then the display is no doubt the best on a phone ever imo. It can get very bright but also super dim. And colors pop. Then the new TouchWiz is much better looking then the old one. Also love the fact that it's water resistant, it adds some reassurance when it rains or any situation that might involve water. Battery life is noticeably better than the s4.the camera is fantastic. I could go on and on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] roughmouth:
please sign this petition

I would like to invite everyone watching this post to come and read a petition that when will be delivered to AT&T.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2758713
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
I agree with much of that too...a few things not sure on...for instance you liking the the Touchwiz better.

Do you like the more simple less-graphical icons and menus better or is it something else?

One thing a lot of people seem to like, which Im really missing, is my menu touch button (the left one)...It only does now, what long-pressing the S3 & S4 did...some people are calling it "true multi-tasking" but Im just not getting it...but I need that button at times.

Battery life on the S5 is DRAMATICALLY better than the S3 & S4.

I am having issues with the Camera however...Im not sure if its faulty, but in less than Full Sunlight, when I take a pic, and zoom in, everything has a Mottled almost Oil-Painting texture to it. Yesterday I took a pic with an S4 in the same light and zoom and with My S5 - The S4 had FAR Better resolution and I culd see my sons face...my S5 looked like a cartoon. I am shooting with ALL effects off, no flash (also S4), and at Full 16mp resolution.

My other gripes are more with the built-in Apps that the phone...I find the S5 slimness and feel to be awesome, and the smoothness of the screen is unsurpassed.

I just want root. and maybe a diff camera
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] GeorgeP:
If image quality is worse than your S4, everything else held equal, your camera is faulty. I have booth S4 and S5. The sharpness is about a same in medium to low light (S5 is better in bright light), but in nearly all cases, contrast, dynamic range, color reproduction are better with the S5.

That said:

- You can't tell from a single picture (You said yesterday you took "a" pic...) I have a $3,000 camera and sometimes that takes bad shots.

- In general, the zoom feature on cell phones (except for the few that have optical zoom (e.g., Lumia 1020, Galaxy S4 Zoom) is a gimmick and should not be used.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
I will be a little more specific: Ive taken dozens of pics now with the S5...the pic quality in less than bright light is worse than the exact same pics taken with S3 and S4 (real life pics, not just tests...plus ive done 3 tests).

The problem seems to be image stability...when I turn stabilization on the problem is reduced, but still there. I think it may be a faulty camera, there was news about that a few weeks back.

I just noticed it worse yesterday trying to take pics of my sons graduation. After snapping 10 pics and seeing the quality I grabbed my in-laws and wife's S4 to compare...they were by far better...as in ability to see face, vs the face looking like paint brush dabs.

The best way to describe the distortion would be like the "Hot Wax" or "Erode" image effects one would use with Photoshop. Not good.

Sucks. I HATE setting up phones again.

almost all phones use digital zoom - which isnt zoom at all, its just like taking part of an image and increasing it to the same pixel output. Gimmick is 100% correct.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] vegasdiceshooter:
I switched from Samsung to htc one m8 and do not regret it one bit HTC likes customers
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] WizeGuyDezignz:
Ok, I will edit my comment, but I still don't agree with you. How does Samsung not care about their customers? They are trying to make their phones safer in this rapidly growing unsafe world. They don't owe us an unlocked bootloader, that's what their developer editions are for.

And this is the same HTC that normally abandons their phones as soon as a new one comes out? They are only changing their ways because they are looking bankruptcy straight in the eyes. Don't be fooled and think they are doing it because they all of a sudden feel charitable.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nick James:
I'm having a heck of a time trying to find a legit T-Mobile S5. I'm wayyy to nervous to just buy one from someone randomly. From the sounds of it, they could sell you a device that could potentially become unusable... That's not very promising!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] fix-this!:
This is why despite my love for the note series ive boycotted anything samsung. I bought the m8. Funny as it can be bootloader unlocked and rooted. The at&t version to. Samsung just doesnt have the balls to tell the carriers to stuff it. That and the knox bs. No thanks!

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No its not, its the truth. Htc allows bootloader unlock.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
IDK: Saying HTC isnt doing it cuz they all the sudden got charitable but Samsung has lockdown because they are trying to make us safe is very close...Neither is charitable.

If its because Samsung is so concerned about security and safety, then Samsung would have made ALL of the S5 variants just like VZN and ATT, and not allow root to have been so easily achieved on All carriers. So its not that either...its them being Pansies to VZN and ATT...they are afraid the carriers will stop "pushing" their phone and start pushing others...which is exactly what the carriers WILL do as long as companies have the incestuous relationships with carriers...this crap didnt happen as much a few years ago...we can thank Apple and iPhone for the new paradigm with their only selling iPhones thru ATT for those first few years.

If Samsung had this new BS policy on the Galaxy S2 and S3, then iPhones would still be the "thing" and people would have shunned Samsung. They are turning their back on what gave them the advantage in the first place. The guys at Apple are probably VERY happy for the new rules.

If not careful, sales of S5 and anything after will fade.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
Sales of the S5 are at a record level...the Note 4 will likely follow the trend. The locked bootloader has extremely little effect on sales. Really doesn't even register overall. I think you are way over estimating how many people care much less even know about the development community.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
Time will tell. But where would the entire Droid market be right now had it started out this way?

Its not the locked bootloaders and everyday users having root...its the ability to not be force-shoved Apps and bloatware...its the ability to use MAPS 6.14 rather than the newer versions which suck, its the ability to run that App that you discover a friend using that isnt "authorized".

What happens to the entire DEV community and sites like this when all the carriers and mfgrs start this crap?

I may end up getting a S3 for ATT, rooting it, and "downgrading" simply because the MAPS application doesnt do what I need it to do, and its a problem for me when traveling to 10 different customers out of state....little things like that, plus the forced-bloatware will impact users that use the phone for more than facebook. Trends tend to take a long time to turn, and then its a RUSH. I believe the S5 will prove to be a turning point in the end. Apple may use it as leverage, or some other mfgr may rise to the top. Samsung certainly wasnt at the top in 2005 or even 2008, and thats not really that long ago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] WizeGuyDezignz:
Like Scott said, I think your are overestimating the development community. For example....say Samsung sells 40 million S5's....how many of those buyers care or even know about root? 100,000? And that's generous. Probably less if I had to take a guess.

In other words, Samsung, AT&T and other carriers won't even think about those people. They aren't even a blip on the overall radar.

We are enthusiasts man...companies don't cater to enthusiasts, they cater to the masses that actually affect their bottom line.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mircury:
I agree with what you say but as a counter point we as enthusiasts have a great deal of influence on the non-tech crowd and family. People come to us for advice. I personally have gotten at least 6 lines added/switched to T-mobile. These people have no idea what a locked bootloader means but we as enthusiasts can point customers in the right direction and away from abusive companies.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
OK, I better understand what your saying. And unfortunately yes, they cater to the masses...

Guess what Im saying, is that without Dev's and places like XDA, iPhones would still be ruling the roost and Andoid would not be where its at...in other words it was the open-source and unlocking/rooting abilities that Droid offered over iWhetever that drewthe iCrowd over.

And now its being abandoned....good tactic I guess.

It gives BBRY an opening to get back in the market...unfortunately with the virtually illegal way carriers are doing biz with the phone mfgr's, they will make it hard for BBRY to sell millions. In most other markets, whats going on with phones would be illegal.

I waited until 2012 to get a "smart phone"...I waited until I saw the phones have the battery power and functionality as well as data speed that actually made them relevant for me. Got to use a rooted S3 for 18 months, got rid of all the bloatware and used the old MAPS application and loved it. It did what I wanted it to do.

Now Im in lock down hell...TMBL phone on ATT network in my future very soon.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
Well, I just stumbled upon an installable MAPS 6.14.4 apk that WORKS on an unrooted S5. Its installed alongside the junky new MAPS version and at first blush, works good.

This was my MAJOR grip with the S5, and if I can keep this app, then ATT can go ahead and keep updating my phone without killing my need for a good MAPS app.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2566159

Thank you XDA again!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
ok I can't find it anywhere how do I disable OTA on rooted at&t galaxy s5?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
Use titanium backup to freeze "AT&T Software Update" under Backup/Restore.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
Thanks....will this work on another family members s4 as well
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] freebee269:
yes i believe it's named the same on the S4 also. just freeze it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
With GeoHot's Towelroot, this is no longer a problem.

Titanium Backup Pro, disable this little gremlin and AT&T can now once again kiss mine and a lot of other people's rear-ends.

Not to mention I installed Maps_6_14_4.apk into /system/app, uninstalled Maps thru TiBu, renamed GMS_Maps.apk to .bak, wiped the cache, renamed Maps_6_14_4.apk to GMS_Maps.apk, chmod 655 to GMS_Maps.apk, rebooted, and have my old maps back...able to navigate and re-rout with 2 clicks rather than 8-10 clicks.

Screw AT&T and the rest of the world that makes apps more difficult to use over and over again...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] iPhonetoAndroid007:
Agree 100% just when people get use to something they go ahead and change it to what ever they think is best. Same with owning a phone and locking the bootloader once someone purchases that phone it becomes theirs yet both the manufacturer and host company get to make decisions on what they want done to your device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cybershawngates:
Have there been any new OTA updates since towel root was released? Has att pushed out 4.4.4 etc (rooted w ota dosabled)?

Is there any place you can see what the latest AT&T firmware is

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
If there was an update, then you would have heard it all over these forums by now. The latest and current firmware out is still UCU2AND3.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] GDofWR420:
www.sammobile.com for all your stock Samsung firmware needs.:thumbup:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] btort1:
Can anyone confirm if the new firmware that improves fingerprint sensor gets rid of root capabilities?

I know I have to go back to stock and update....but after the update will I still be able to root?

has anyone tried chainfires mobile odin pro?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
Yes you will still be able to root, and No, haven't tried mobile odin pro because it's not going to work with our locked bootloader.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] btort1:
You are 100% sure we can use towel root for the AT&T?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
THE GUY WHO CAME UP WITH TOWEL ROOT (GEOHOT) FIRST ROOTED WITH A AT&T S5.

I can see you are new to this forum.

I'm the one who wrote how to unroot towel root after rooting with it, and then tampering with something incorrectly.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53454972&postcount=1
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] btort1:
I'm not talking about OLDER firmware but the NEW ONE that improves the performance and fingerprint sensor. I was assuming AT&T got the new firmware that all the other models were receiving a couple of days ago.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
Updates are very popular around here. You would see it all over these forums if a newer one was out. Unfortunately, AT&T is very slow with releasing updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Pneuma1985:
I got an ota notice today and I have root what is the .apk that controls the process? Im goning to freeze it with tb ? anyone answer that question? The exploit for removing it doesnt work i know that just from reading it and i have root just not an unlocked bootloader.

I froze the update in titanium backup! If you dont have tb pro use lucky patcher. Enjoy the gift for those of you that dont know how to stop this!

Its been several hours now and I haven't received the update notification i rebooted it 5 times to be sure... Cleared cache and data on the update as well. Just in case that may have helped in any way i just did what I would have done if i wanted an app to stop doing something...

Though this does require root...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Longcat14:
I'm curious, what firmware are you running right now?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
I can guarantee you that it's still UCU1ANCE.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Pneuma1985:
Yes still on UCU1ANCE is there anyway i can update the firmware without bricking?

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] freebee269:
yes. you can back up your data with safestrap. then go back to stock rom with odin. then take the OTA. then root with towelroot. this works. i've done it a couple times with no problem. after root you can install safestrap again.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Pneuma1985:
Can i do it with a locked bootloader. I have odin 3.07 not sure which version im supposed to be using. Can you link me to the stock rom so i can odin it? And whats the exact process for odin what am i supposed to have checked or not checked like i said ive rooted several sammys but never actually messed with one like i am now... Thanks in advance
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