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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] byte9:
OP made it clear, yes AT&T.

Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dwd3885:
The latest update fixes Gallery speed and better accuracy on finger scanner
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Add45:
I accidentally hit the update button after it asked me 9432590 times to update, so I immediately pulled the battery out (one of the nice features of having a samsung phone) after it started to reboot. I put in back in, fired it up and got a message saying "The update process was interrupted and was unsuccessful" or something like that. I haven't been bothered by it since ;)

I wouldn't recommend anyone trying this as it seems very likely that a chance of bricking your phone will result, but if you want to risk it, do it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Greycloak42:
Once the update appears you're out of luck. I postponed it several times and woke up to the update already applied. In a few weeks I'm going to tell at&t to go to hell and switch over to TMO.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
This is nothing new. It's been happening with the S4s for over a year now. Unfortunately root is needed to freeze the apps responsible for the updates. Turning off Wifi, while not using the phone, can help, but until root is achieved it's going to happen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] byte9:
Depending how vigilant, U. Power Saving mode is the best non-root way to ward it off.

Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cdd543:
I still haven't gotten the update prompt--odd.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] byte9:
Me either, my only nag is the security policies and i just swipe it away and keep killing the AT&T OTA update process anytime i see it restart after a reboot. I only suggest U. Power Saving because it turns off all the radios etc while sleeping so 0% chance of a snake in the grass crawling in while you slumber.

Half of me is a little mad at myself for underestimating how much I'd miss root, I sold a perfectly good Loki compatible GS4 for this thing. The other half of me realizes this phone is great because it's locked down and i can configure it to 90% of what i want and still quite enjoy it. Coming to terms that the GS4 owners after Loki had to suffer this and are STILL to this day and that may be our inevitable situation.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sk8trix:
It's funny how normal users are always waiting for the carrier updates and yet we're here hating on them and trying to find a way stop stop the updates. There are so many customers that ask me about the software updates on a daily basis.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] djmouse:
I do know this , somehow my SE security was updated, then I choose to take the OTA, I was messing around with some root methods that didn't work(yet), but I did a factory reset and I was still on the new 2AND3 firmware but my SE update was not present anymore. It was the original out of box SE. Just an FYI
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cavsoldier19d:
Well this is new to a lot including myself who never had the S4 and is coming straight from the S3. Not to mention the S3 bootloader wasnt locked. I had WiFi turned off and never even configured it since I got it. I am now back on my S3 until i can get to a T-Mobile store.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cavsoldier19d:
Delete / duplicate
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
Yea, it really looks like the Tmobile phone is the only way to go for now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nick James:
Learning the hard way with my S4 when the auto update appeared yesterday I declined it all day. I woke up this morning to find that the update applied itself in my sleep at 130am. I can't believe this crap.

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Even Apple let's you decline the updates forever (well until programs stop functioning right) . That's pretty sad lol.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] OsoGrande:
AT&T Auto OTA Update

What's even more ridiculous is that this OTA update was simply to add two additional bloatware apps, Lookout Security and Yellow Pages, which the mothership had agreed to provide, but failed to include in the release...sigh...

Will likely wait it out another month or two, but will seriously be looking at the T-Mobile or other rootable alternative!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mocsab:
I stopped buying ATT Phones after the S4. My Old NOTE 3 and my new S5 are both unlocked TMOBILE phones on ATT NETWORK.

I actually switched service to TMOBILE Originally but I was so dissapointed in speed - it was extremely slow by comparison to my LTE speeds on ATT - that I cancelled TMobile and swritched back to AT service.

My Phones work like a charm on ATT - and luckily I can flash roms at will (I am not trying to rub it in - only encouraging you to do the same thing)

Nice that my S5 has download booster - which ATT decided to not inclue with their S5 -

anyway- good luck to you all - I hope someone eventually finds a way to ROOT Att S5 - but in the meantime - consider buying a TMobile phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sk8trix:
You're gonna take that ota and love it lol. Its gonna update eventually when u don't notice it I figure just take the ota and be done with it at the end of the day your phone isn't going to act much different.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] byte9:
Not just bloat

To give some additional data, a point that keeps being made are the additional apps added(they can both be turned off)

The silver lining is it's not ONLY apps added, they increased the accuracy of the fingerprint scanner, fixed issues with the quick switch button and increased the gallery speed. So you may not want to update if you're waiting on root(me) but the OTA did come with more than just apps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sentinel79:
Yeah it literally just did it on mine (by itself) after I "Remind Me Later" for the bast 48 hours.

I'm leaving ATT for this ... root is essential if we want to get rid of bloatware and use app like Titanium ro manage our installs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] norbarb:
I still have no update. No notice and when i want to update manually all i get is that i have software up to date.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Trekboy:
I haven't received an update notification yet. Perhaps it's because I have my device set to completely turn off the wifi when it's not on? Changed "Keep WiFi on during sleep" to "Never (Increases data usage)"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dibeachdude:
Oh, don't worry. It's coming. <deer in headlights>
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] TDizzle329:
Just to let everyone know, this update will download over a cellular connection as well, keeping WiFi off won't keep you safe. I noticed this update downloading on Sunday while I was out grocery shopping. I use the Grocery IQ app for my shopping list. I pulled my phone out of my pocket to mark some things off the list and I noticed an icon I didn't recognize in the status bar. I pulled down the notification shade and saw it was a software update. I freaked out and turned on airplane mode, but when I turned the radios back the update resumed downloading. I do have the setting to connect to AT&T hot spots disabled so I know I wasn't connected to WiFi. I tried holding off but it ended up applying the next morning while I was in the shower. I was really pissed when it happened because I thought it was robbery (I know, over dramatic) of them to use 90mb of my data without my permission, but I don't see the update reflected in the data usage in the settings, WiFi or cellular.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Drew333:
The article that AT&T published states that "The update file size is 46MB and will not count against your data usage." So at least they aren't counting it against your data used.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sk8trix:
I'm glad they're not counting that as plan data. Its like hitting you with your own bat. ATT I have a love hate relationship with them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SlimJ87D:
This was the final straw that broke the camels back.

HTC M8... Here I come.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] NWLONEWOLF87:
I can't stand the lag on this phone... It's driving me nuts! The lack of ROOT is killing me as well. I'm going back to my Nexus 5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Heartlessnobody:
So the find 7 is out but I can't seem to find it anywhere
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Alarand:
This probably isn't a permanent solution,

-but after naively thinking I was safe from the update I caught the bastards with a popup saying the update is about to start and the phone will restart in 10 seconds or whatever.

Right before the phone managed to turn off i jacked the battery out, waited 30 seconds, and rebooted.

I got a notification saying the update failed and this was 3 days ago.

I haven't received any notifications from the update app since then and have rebooted my phone several times.

The permanent notification icon is gone in the tray also.

edit: and yes I'm still on G900AUCU1ANCE, with with SE4.4.2_0011 Fri Mar 14

Anyways, keep up the fight for freedom guys :), the moneyed interests will always win if we just sit back let them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] byte9:
Disable transition animations, disable S-voice from home button and good lord its butter(nova launcher).

Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] norbarb:
Sh....... I get back home from work and my phone connected to home WiFi than i went to get shower.. After i get out i look at phone and " Android is upgrading...." to late for remove battery...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] djmouse:
Make sure you don't have the magnification setting on I turned that on and my keyboard I could barely type,and to add to the update not charging,I'm so pissed at att I'm grandfathered into unlimited data plan,but if I go over 5gb in my billing cycle they choke me back to download speeds of under 1mb/s it's rediculous,they said they do that to all unlimited plans so they don't cause bandwidth Issues,and they said all carriers do that if you have unlimited data,anyone know if thats true on tmobile?they want me to get off the unlimited and go with a 10gb share plan.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
They Auto-Updated me with No warning, no option to stop, no option to delay or deny, while I was on Roaming Data "MoviStar" in mexico Sunday.

90MB!!! - $300 bill.

Thanks AT&T...really...THANK YOU. Not.

If T-Mobile phone will work on ATT&T's 4G LTE I will fork over the $$$ to get one and root it, and sell this factory brick of an S5 to someone else...between this and my 2 old S3's, I will proabably be able to cover 2/3rd the cost.

I dont appreciate ANY software or company auto-updating Anything without it being 100% up to me...I hope AT&T chokes on this eventually.

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And we got a "faster" phone with "better" processor why?

Its like all the new MS windows and office 2013...Slower than ever...and they want us to believe its because there is "so much more" stuff its doing...yeah right...go tell the kid down the street!

Anyway...Welcome to the new norm folks...its not just the S5 or AT&T...Its literally EVERYWHERE right now...I have my theories and my opinions, and I can guarantee its not because Security programs are making sure all the data we get is safe...the level at which all the new crap is slowing down cant be explained because the RAM, Data Busses, multi-core processors, and processor speeds are so high they can perform BILLIONS of calcs per second...BILLIONS.

Someone wants this crap to be operating like...crap...on purpose.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sentinel79:
Well there will be developer versions at least but what they basically doing is keeping the masses (who are poor) from experiencing freedom and performance that isn't sanctioned by money grubbing elitist corporations. So yeah, they want their phones to perform at a certain level ... to give headroom for the next marginally better, over-hyped, must-have device of the SEASON.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] newbie2006:
Yeah i finally did it - I sold my unit on swappa for 450 and bought a t-mo version for 535 - a $95 loss is worth it to HAVE ROOT and ROMS!

I spoke with ATT and told them this was my last phone purchase from them - not like they care - but still. If t-mo did not have sucky service where i am i would not have left them for at&t.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dave1977nj:
I just got the notification for the update. Do you really think that this update is fixing a hole for root? or just bloatware?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] davew41:
I have sold 3 Phones So far on maxback, they offer decent prices and you get your cash in PAYPAL usually the same week ( if you ship it in on monday)

http://www.maxback.com/sell/Samsung-Galaxy-S-5

they are offering $450 For EX condition S5.

Thinking of shipping mine in ( even though i love the camera) and taking the cash for say a nexus 5 or something else for the summer ...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
not a $95 "Loss", a $95 Investment to Sanity! :) really. Plus outta da contract crap. Its Your Phone now...and nobody else. Thats worth more than the ball and chain anyday

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Prob both...really...stealth "Kill the Root attempt"

You dont think ATT has trolls on THIS forum do you...Nahhhh...no way. Riiiiight. And I have some beachfront property in AZ to sell ya...haha
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] WizeGuyDezignz:
The amount of crybabies in this thread is amazing. I literally had a flashback to the 2nd grade. Then I came to and realized I was on XDA and all is normal. Carry on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] aarongillion63:
The only way I can think of fixing this is by removing the ota apk thru stock recovery with like a false signed zip using signtool or similar. This is a longshot but I think it can work after a lot of fiddling. Input?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nick James:
What, you think all this is okay?! Maybe you should buy an iPhone lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] WizeGuyDezignz:
Do I like or agree with it? Absolutely not. Is it legal for them to do this? Absolutely.

At the end of the day, we own the hardware (once paid off whether it be a contract, etc.). We don't own the software at all on the other hand. They can force any update that they see fit.

In the end, I don't like it. But it is what it is and I know crying about it isn't gonna accomplish anything. We are all old enough to make decisions, nobody is forcing us to keep this phone.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Heartlessnobody:
Hey Peps after the update and more stupid bloatware the phone doesn't want to stay charging and it looks like when it gets to 100% it stops. Also when it's charging intermittently the put the cover back on pop-up comes up and disrupts what ever you are doing. I would love to disable that message. Also do you think the update some how made it where you can't use third party charging cords. Is that possible? If that's the case I'm switching
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] roughmouth:
Is there any way to revert

can we revert to the original software version?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Heartlessnobody:
Update official charge cable has a constant charge not cutting out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nick James:
I use aftermarket cables all day without problems. Usually I'm not even using my USB 3.0 cable either.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
No, not an iPhone...that would be too kind...Im thinking more like an LG Dare...I mean...it had text messaging, mp3 and a crude internet browser.

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Ahhhhh Ah Ah Ah.....not a chance in hadies without root or a complete wipe of your phone and factory ROM reset, which will sneak the new update in while your sleeping.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] norbarb:
Hmmm.. Kies are not working anymore. Don't know if you can do it by Odin.

Is there to get log off this update?

Swiping from dark side of Galaxy S5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] TRAVISTRAVESTY:
I'm confused and quite sad myself about this. Pretty much every time I unlock my phone from sleep, it tells me my back cover isn't all the way on and my SD card isn't mounted or something, making it unusable. I just want a nice phone that works right and does it fast. Really thinking about switching because of all of this. I guess other than that, there's nothing I can do?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] byte9:
MAN DOWN!

I just seeded myself. I used the keycode somebody posted for the OTA menu. Clicked for the "OTA" in the actual menu and then it rebooted the phone, pulled battery-- nope. Once it writes the cache to install it'll just keep booting into Recovery mode until it puts what it wants inside of your device.

Not sure this will effect root, disabled the few apps it installed. : /
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Nick James:
We are all just puppets, thanks AT&T.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
Not sure about everyone else, but after the latest "updates" my phone has a mind of its own at times.

I will unlock my phone after not touching it for hours, and it will be on some random setting or application that I was not in when I last used it....creepy, some examples:

1 Unlock screen and there is a picture of uncooked chicken on the screen, not a pic I took, and not one that was sent via email or text, I click the Back button and my phone is in the Maps App...picture is then gone...no idea what the heck it was.

2 Unlock screen yesterday morning, Last thing I did was set the alarm clock night before. When I unlock phone its in Contacts, and 17 are "Selected"

3 Unlock phone after checking internet for roofing supply stores and existing internet. Rather than home screen its in my Text messages from someone I havnt texted in 1 month.

There more more examples, but its completely random...and its just like if someone were to be using my phone remotely. BTW - My lock screen is PIN protected, and Nobody touched my phone in those times.

Completely baffling.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] pennywisdom:
I tried to deny the update as long as I could, but eventually it put a permanent notification that I couldn't get rid of so I just took the update.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Trekboy:
I have killed the update service several times now via an app called "Advanced Task Manager" Killed the AT&T Software update service and cleared the cache. Update reminder came back two or three times, but since I last killed it over the weekend (can't remember whether it was Saturday or Sunday) it hasn't come back up (today is Monday 5/19) Still on G900AUCU1ACE as of today.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
I may try this...I keep killing the Built-in Auto Update App and it comes back regardless.

Oh...and that new App "yp" they installed, and some other messaging app, Ive tried uninstalling them...only to see They have "updated" - aka reinstalled.

HORSESH**!

Does anyone here know if the T-Mobile Phone works with full 4G LTE and AT&T's system?

Im very close to selling this S5, getting a Tmobile, rooting it, and being done with ATTs dumb games.

Im just afraid to get the TMBL S5 only to discover it sucks on the AT&T network.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Alarand:
Yeah it would seem as though unless you constantly monitor your phone you're not going to be able to stop them from pushing it through.

I'm considering dropping att altogether and letting T-Mobile pick up the tab.

This is just silly and a pretty flagrant f*** you to people that might otherwise consider themselves loyal customers.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
I agree that forced firmware / software updates are rediculous. People should be able to decide if they want to do so or not. However, it's amazing how few people actually read the wireless agreement that they agreed to when purchasing an AT&T phone or using AT&T's network. Here is a small part of it:

"4.4 How Can I Use the Software?

The software, interfaces, documentation, data, and content provided for your Equipment as may be updated, downloaded, or replaced by feature enhancements, software updates, system restore software or data generated or provided subsequently by AT&T (hereinafter “Software”) is licensed, not sold, to you by AT&T and/or its licensors/suppliers for use only on your Equipment. Your use of the Software shall comply with its intended purposes as determined by us, all applicable laws, and AT&T’s Acceptable Use Policy at att.com/AcceptableUsePolicy.

You are not permitted to use the Software in any manner not authorized by this License. You may not (and you agree not to enable others to) copy, decompile, reverse engineer, disassemble, reproduce, attempt to derive the source code of, decrypt, modify, defeat protective mechanisms, combine with other software, or create derivative works of the Software or any portion thereof. You may not rent, lease, lend, sell, redistribute, transfer or sublicense the Software or any portion thereof. You agree the Software contains proprietary content and information owned by AT&T and/or its licensors/suppliers.

AT&T and its licensors/suppliers reserve the right to change, suspend, terminate, remove, impose limits on the use or access to, or disable access to, the Software at any time without notice and will have no liability for doing so. You acknowledge AT&T’s Software licensors/suppliers are intended third party beneficiaries of this license, including the indemnification, limitation of liability, disclaimer of warranty provisions found in this Agreement."

Look at the highlighted part. You might not like it, but ALL of you agreed to it. It's never a good idea to do anything without taking the responsibility to know what it is you agreed to....like it or not.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Russ77:
slow clap...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] byte9:
Watch 'Terms & Conditions Apply' - Netflix

Love, from GS5 locked bootloader hell.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
Unless your forced onto ATT for company plan.

Not just that, but lets ALL be honest here about T&C's anymore:

a) They are Wayyyyyyyy Wayyyyy Too long to read and are phrased and worded in ways that not only aim to confuse the person reading, but are also written in a manner where when you read the last sentence in a section, you typically may not even recall what the whole section was even for (aka - redirection of thought)

b) Do you REALLY have a choice in selecting Yes or No? - One answer these days: NO - and there are a few reasons - First MOST carriers T&C's are virtually the same, meaning if you want 4G LTE, you pretty much are told by all of them "Its our way or the Highway" and second - The Government pretty much FORCES the carriers to have these policies in place so they have access in the end to what we do.

c) In the "Old" days - (pre 2005 before smartphones were largely connected to true high-speed internet, and thus were MOSTLY PHONES and texting devises) when companies would try T&C's like this, customers would erect the middle finger and go with someone else. Due to b) above we largely no longer have this option.

Thus ROOT is needed.

Which we dont have...yet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
A. If a person does not have the mental ability to understand something and they choose to not do what is necessary to understand it, they should not agree to it. It's called "taking responsibility for your own actions". We're not talking about taking advantage of mentally challenged people.

B. Of course there is a choice. You don't "need" a cell phone to survive. You won't die without "data". People did fine for a long time without either. Wanting and needing are two different things. The feeling of entitlement a lot of people have is no excuse.

C. No reason people still can't...except they are to lazy to read what they are agreeing to. Like I said, no one is making anyone purchase a phone or use a service. Just choose not to.