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[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
If you are stupid enough to just pay ANY bill without checking it, then its your OWN FAULT, and no one else s'..

It blows me away how many people just pay their credit card bills, phone bills, and everything else without bothering to check every thing on it...since when do we just trust ANY company to not make mistakes/errors/overcharge us for things?

I don't know of a single person who hasn't had erroneous charges on some bill they received, so if you aren't checking EVERY bill, statement, checking account statement,and invoice, then you need to wake up to the reality that mistakes/overcharges occur every day, in every business..
[T-Mobile LG G3] Semantics:
I've never been charged for something I didn't authorize. I can't imagine people not knowing their bill went up 10 bucks a month and never realizing it. I have auto-pay, but I still look at my bill each month. I'm sure some people don't look, though.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Rippley05:
Sometimes, I wish T-Mobile would just put as much effort into expanding their coverage area as they did into "looking cool" and under cutting competition. I'd love to try them out, but their coverage is laughable
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
they have a 7 day "free" trial offer now; you could always try them out, and see if they have improved coverage in your area..you might just be surprised to find out how much better it is now...
[T-Mobile LG G3] Semantics:
Their coverage is laughable if you live in the sticks. Its incredible if you live in civilization, though. Wifi Calling makes it so it doesn't matter if you have no coverage in your home.
[T-Mobile LG G3] sn0warmy:
I pre-ordered my G3 yesterday and just got a text from T-Mobile saying, "The device you ordered it on back order with no ship date. You will receive another message when in stock and shipped."

I wasn't anticipating the phone to ship out right away, or even until late next week at the earliest so I'm not too concerned. But is this a standard message you guys are getting as well? Or is this an indication of a true back order at this point after getting bombarded by pre-orders from customers? If so I'd be better off canceling my order and just picking one up in the local store on launch day.

It completely depends on where you live. When I travel back to Michigan I have absolutely terrible coverage with T-Mobile. When I go to Chicago, it's fantastic. And where I live (Colorado) the service is outstanding. I have LTE coverage all over the metro area with no hiccups and even when I'm at the top of Vail, Steamboat, or Breckenridge, I still have a solid signal while others around me with Verizon and AT&T have no service at all.

While living here I wouldn't switch to any other carrier.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Semantics:
We're all getting that text I suspect.
[T-Mobile LG G3] sn0warmy:
Good deal. That's kind of what I figured.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Inferno.:
When can we expect to see the phone being sold in other stores unlocked (US version with LTE)? I need to buy a new phone and I really like the G3, but I was wondering if the regular-non carrier version is usually released days after the normal release or perhaps is months away.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Rippley05:
Struck a nerve eh..

I don't live in the sticks, the woods. I live in Roanoke, VA. I don't work from home, or even stay at home very often so I need, ya know, a good mobile network (that's the thing we pay a monthly bill for) to use my phone. Their coverage is laughable is more areas than not. That's just a fact.

That being said, their way of doing business (aside from the Phantom charges) is much better than that of Verizon and AT&T.

I didn't mean to turn this into a network debate. It's well known that t-mobile struggles, and are constantly being "bought out". I was simply saying, I wish their coverage was better so I could switch to them.

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I agree, it does depend on where you live (civilization or the sticks). T Mobile may have excellent coverage in some areas, those areas are just few and far in between.
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
It's a consequence of the frequencies they use, T-Mobile has always concentrated on the higher bands. They're low latency, but also low penetration and low range. First the PCS band, then AWS, until they picked up that chunk of 700 MHz spectrum I thought they were just making the same mistake over and over, but the 700 MHz stuff might be helpful.
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
Are we going to have different LG g3 forums based on carrier, here on XDA, or are they just going to lump it all together like they are doing so far?
[T-Mobile LG G3] Semantics:
Struck a nerve? I live in NY, I get the fastest LTE in the country unlimited for 80 bucks a month. Why would you strike a nerve? T-Mobile coverage isn't abysmal like you state it is, like every carrier, its location dependent.
[T-Mobile LG G3] sn0warmy:
I imagine we will likely have carrier specific development forums based on previous forums such as the LG G2.
[T-Mobile LG G3] mannequin:
so has anybody seen a t-mobile unit in the wild already? are there any actual visual hardware differences to the international models?
[T-Mobile LG G3] sn0warmy:
It doesn't have the expandable antenna on the top left of the phone and the back plate doesn't have QI charging. Aside from that I believe it will look the same.

My question is, does anyone have any reliable word on when we can expect our phones to ship out? I'm already getting antsy and I just ordered it yesterday. :laugh:
[T-Mobile LG G3] IXChicharitoXI:
This will be my first time jumping onto the LG ship. Did the international G2 roms work with the USA carrier based one as well?

Would be nice if it does, that'll leave a bigger pool for development.
[T-Mobile LG G3] hello00:
yes it will work..
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
Phone starts shipping day before it officially comes out in stores...
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
I hope it gets rooted quickly.
[T-Mobile LG G3] jsapp:
I am waiting until it does to pick one up.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Maine_Coon:
Korean and European versions are rooted already, no reason to.believe our versions will

be different in terms of rooting.
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
Yeah I do intend to try that root method on the T-Mobile version, just to see if it works.
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
rooting wont be a problem; its unlocking that locked down bootloader that will be the problem..
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
Why exactly would you want to use a custom ROM on a T-Mobile phone anyway? You'd lose access to their WiFi calling, which just seems like an awfully handy thing to give up.

Besides, we're not talking TouchWIZ here.
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
in my area of chicago land, the signal is fantastic in my house so, I dont need wifi calling; plus, the one thing I dont like about wifi calling is that if you are in the middle of a wi fi call, and you leave your house and go on the data network, you always lose your call; at least that is what happens to me when I do that..

So no, wifi calling doesnt mean anything to me..

Plus, on custom roms, based on stock, the dev's are usually able to cook wifi calling into their roms
[T-Mobile LG G3] jeyd02:
I haven't yet used any wifi calling features.
[T-Mobile LG G3] sn0warmy:
Wifi calling is one of the core reasons I canceled my order for the OnePlus One and ordered the G3. I've never used it but I've heard it is an excellent solution for those with weak cell signals at home. I must live in a bunker because outside my apartment I get 4 bars of LTE. But inside my apartment I have absolutely no signal. It's quite annoying and has caused me to miss plenty of calls.

Wifi calling might be just the ticket I've been looking for.
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
That's what I'm thinking too. I live in a quasi-rural area that has LTE deployed but might not be good enough indoors. And my office's walls are so thick that Verizon can't even get a signal in there, it's a shock that AT&T is usable. Both locations I can set up a real nice 5 GHz wifi with a direct internet connection though, which means I just need to worry about reception in my car.
[T-Mobile LG G3] hello00:
the main reason people go for the opo is because its price..cant beat that..but other than that..there is nothing interesting about that phone
[T-Mobile LG G3] Maine_Coon:
Yep. Hopefully it can be resolved. I wonder whether someone tried to contact LG. Even Sony lets you to unlock the bootloader.
[T-Mobile LG G3] jimmydee62:
I don't really care if it is 801 or 805 because the 801 is running at 2.5ghz and that is fat enough for me or am I missing something?
[T-Mobile LG G3] Enddo:
The theory is, to get the same performance that you're used to with the G2 and it's 1080p/Snapdragon 800 SoC, you need the Snapdragon 805 for a QHD display. Going with an 801 will net you less GPU performance. It has nothing to do with the CPU

It's under the assumption that the cause of the tiny lag hitches is the lower GPU on the Snapdragon 801. It could very well be a bloated OEM overlay, this could be optimized over time to remove, but graphical intensive games are still going to perform a little better on the G2 than the G3(with the snapdragon 801).
[T-Mobile LG G3] jsapp:
There are custom ROMs based on stock firmware that would include WiFi calling. Custom kernels are also nice sometimes.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Colchiro:
North Dakota only has 2G with T-Mobile, even in the larger cities. AT&T has 3G for a chunk of I94 between Fargo and Minneapolis. Too bad because I can think of a lot of reasons to drop Verizon.
[T-Mobile LG G3] jimmydee62:
back of phone

Can someone remove the back cover and take a picture of it? What I want to see is the charging pins on the back of the phone because I want to see if they are the same as the European model or the Korean model. The European model has separation between 2nd and 3rd pin whereas the Korean version doesn't. I'm looking at back cover for wireless charging and have to be careful which one to order.
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
Interesting, I didn't know that Sony let you..is it like HTC where you go to their website, and get a code that allows it?
[T-Mobile LG G3] Slash8915:
Hey, i was wondering if we were ever going to get our own section in the forums? You know, a place JUST for the T-mobile version of the G3, that way it will be easier to find ROMs specifically for our phone, and talk about problems, ect.
[T-Mobile LG G3] erapmicks:
can anyone see on the box where the phone is made from? The G2 is made from korea.

THanks
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
I suppose that'll depend on how different the rom and bootloader are?
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
G3 is also from Korea...
[T-Mobile LG G3] Maine_Coon:
Yep. That's how I unlocked my Z Ultra.
[T-Mobile LG G3] TheFuzz:
So confirmed ship date for pre orders done online thru jump is July 15th
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
I believe you will see lots of development for the LG G3, right here on XDA....

Hey, I pre ordered the LG G3 today and received a text stating that it will deliver around 7/11 - I doubt it will happen, as I believe they start deliveries the day before it officially launches...

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Sounds about right - lol, I do not see the benefit of JUMP!

You pay 10.00 a month more, and you have to pay half of the phone price before you can upgrade in 6 months, and then you trade that phone back in and they give you half of what you could get on ebay...

I just upgraded the normal way and my last phone I bought was in November, from T MOBILE...
[T-Mobile LG G3] tarroyo:
Coming from a nexus 5 I'm curious about LG's flashing/rooting methods.

With a nexus I had the option of easily unlocking the bootloader, installing a custom recovery, and rooting the device. All of this was done thru adb after installing the proper drivers. I'm reading a lot about LG's flash tool in g2 and g3 forums, Most zip files such as gapps or flashing a newer radio could be installed thru recovery or adb followed by a reboot on my nexus 5

For those of you that have g2 T-Mobile devices or a G3 of any region is it as easy as a nexus device to root/install/unlock bootloader or is it more complex? I'm considering getting one in the coming weeks
[T-Mobile LG G3] Pheno.menon:
edit: wrong thread
[T-Mobile LG G3] JesseMT4G:
I am on the old jump program, so I don't have to pay off half of the phone. New jump program definitely isn't as good.

Also not a lot of people want the hassle of selling stuff online. Works for you great, but isn't for everyone. It's 45 minutes tops switching out with your new phone.
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
Guys, take a look at the FCC doc for the D851 (T-Mobile G3). Looks like it does support 850 MHz HSPA after all. https://apps.fcc.gov/eas/GetApplicationAttachment.html?id=2271355

It's possible T-Mobile either doesn't want to broadcast the fact, or intends to disable it somehow, but it is (probably) capable of operating on AT&T's network once unlocked.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Slash8915:
Eh, I'd be more impressed if it supported 700mhz since that's what T-mobile is about to add on.
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
Yeah, that gets into the whole 700 MHz band interoperability and anti-competition garbage that AT&T pulled. It probably wouldn't take MUCH to add A-block support, but I don't know if they can without FCC approval.
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
I just got the message - not sure if it means much, but:

Thank you for your order. We are working to fulfill your order and will update you as we process your item(s).

For your most current order information, check your Order Status on My.T-Mobile.com.

You will receive another update once your order is shipped.

Your order number is: XXXXXXXXX

Order date:

07/05/2014

T-Mobile estimated delivery date:

07/11/2014

Sincerely,

T-Mobile Customer Service

http://my.t-mobile.com
[T-Mobile LG G3] KiNG OMaR:
Ordered mine a few days ago. Got the same message. Got another one saying the phone is backordered with no estimated ship date a while after :crying:
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
ahhh, ok, so, I am thinking probably the 19th to the 26th for its arrival - cool, once I see it shipped I am ordering a case - I want a flip case and not so sure I need one with slots for plastic cards and paper money...the open window flip cases seem nice - saw a nice leathery one for 20.00....
[T-Mobile LG G3] CheesyNutz:
I'm hoping for a quick root possess

Some Place in rhe milkyway
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
Towelroot does work on G3s and I realize that the 10.00 feature has its benefits - just not for me - and I would only get the new version as a newer customer. I just have to pay off my equipment balance enough to be able to upgrade, again, and I keep the phone. Much better option than the new JUMP...
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
agree; new jump is not as good as the "original" one
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
What was the old JUMP like?

I cannot believe that people are willing to pay half the cost of the phone and then trade it in for another one - but, it is a trade off from the old 2 yr contract system, and the new JUMP is definitely something that costs more for a customer...
[T-Mobile LG G3] CheesyNutz:
I'm still under the old jump program

Some Place in rhe milkyway
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
Here's a thought: buy the frigging phone, then buy a new one, and sell the old one on eBay or something.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Starzboy77:
Hope someone can answer these questions.

I am currently with Sprint and have two lines.

1. Can I preorder the G3 and get a Nexus 5 for the second line or do I have to wait until the phone releases and get it in store? If I can preorder, I would not want my Sprint account to cancel until I receive both new phones. Is this possible? I would need to transfer both numbers over obviously.

2. Will Tmobile stores have the 3gb version?

3. How much data is enough? I usually use WiFi as I'm too busy during the day to play with my phone. Would 3gb per line be enough? I usually just surf the net and play Clash of Clans.

4. What happens if you exceed the data cap?

5. I hear T-Mobile's network is much better than Sprints. Is this true? I still don't have LTE at my house. Sprint has been promising me this for 4 years, thus the reason I'm switching.

I may have more questions. Thanks in advance.
[T-Mobile LG G3] IXChicharitoXI:
I'll do my best to answer what I can, anyone feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

1. I'm not to sure about this one. I would ask in a store, you can pre order the g3 and choose a plan that you want but I'm not sure about porting your #s. I'd wait for the 16th when the g3 will be in tmobile stores.

2. As far as I'm concerned, the 3/32gb will be the only model available.

3. Only you can answer this. We don't know how much data you use. I'd suggest to look at your sprint bills and see how much data you use each month and take an average.

4. Data gets throttled(gets slower) but you will not be overcharged or anything like that.

5. We don't know where you live so it's hard to say. Go on the tmobile website and check the coverage map.
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
There are only 2 models available, besides the differences from the American versions and the ones in Korea, like the antenna.

If the G3 comes with 3GB of RAM, it will have 32GB of storage space.

If the G3 comes with 2GB of RAM, it will have 16GB of storage space.
[T-Mobile LG G3] TheFuzz:
Agreed! I got my G2 in March, I'm getting the G3 in two weeks with the jump program. So I paid just less than 6 months @ $20.50 to have this phone, then dump it for a new one with no front cost. I see that as a win.
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
A phone rental price - that is actually pretty good...
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
Old jump, as you have seen, was a really nice deal; pay for your phone for 6 months, with good credit, no up front or down payment, then, after 6 months, you can turn it in and you only paid for 6 months of "rental", and got insurance to boot!

After your first jump in 6 months, you get another one anytime after that within the next 6 months, so 2 jumps per year the first time.

So, If I want to get a G3 in August, when my jump is up, I can get it, keep it for one month, and If I decide I want a Note 4 when it comes out in September, I can take the G3 back, and switch to the Note 4; no upfront, no pay off, nothing extra...

For 3 lines I am paying 90 dollars per month, with fantastic service/data speeds, Plus they paid for 3 of my ETF's ($1050.00), and bought our 3 Sprint M7's from us for 100 each, and we had bought them at Sprint for 99 Dollars, so not only a great phone plan, but no contract, "free" insurance, and new phones every 6 months if I want.

What's not to love at TMO???
[T-Mobile LG G3] _Infamous_:
I thought there return policy is 14 days now
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
It is; I would be using a second "Jump" to trade in the G3..

If you return a phone for another, there is a service charge of 35 bucks I think, so unless I really hated the G3, I wouldn't return it, I would just use my second jump to get something else..
[T-Mobile LG G3] _Infamous_:
Oh ok got it thanks good to know, I have my first jump on July 29th and I'm on the old jump program still.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Starzboy77:
Can you still get in on the old Jump program if I've never been a Tmobile customer before? Think I could negotiate it since I would be a new customer?
[T-Mobile LG G3] CheesyNutz:
No as of Feb 23 it changed I think

Some Place in rhe milkyway
[T-Mobile LG G3] npaladin2000:
You know, it's so tiring sitting here waiting for my preorder to be filled, all I can do is sit here and torture myself reading about the thing. :)
[T-Mobile LG G3] Aegyo:
Nope
[T-Mobile LG G3] wase4711:
not likely..
[T-Mobile LG G3] networkdood:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/AT-T...ilable-in-retail-locations-on-July-11_id57910

Looks like AT&T corporate stores will have the G3 available on 7/11...
[T-Mobile LG G3] sn0warmy:
Our pre-orders haven't even shipped yet. Meanwhile, ATT customers can get theirs in the store on Friday. Annoying...
[T-Mobile LG G3] stevew84:
I have an S5 and Nexus 5 so I'm somewhat conflicted. I still owe monthly payments on my S5 but thinking of selling it, then buying the G3 outright, but continuing monthly payments on the S5.
[T-Mobile LG G3] AngryDinosaur:
spending too much money on phones
[T-Mobile LG G3] stevew84:
haha, thanks for the input...disposable income is a hell of a thing.
[T-Mobile LG G3] AngryDinosaur:
keep s5 and get G3 too
[T-Mobile LG G3] stevew84:
I'm stuck between the G3 and the new Oppo 7, the qHD one. will probably spend around the same amount for either phone, and taking a chance with Oppo, but not everyone will have that phone. I'll end up selling the S5, and if the Nexus line is scrapped, i don't want to sell the N5.
[T-Mobile LG G3] AngryDinosaur:
My roommate is getting find 7 scored about the same as G3 on antutu. Find 7 will be more developing open
[T-Mobile LG G3] jeyd02:
Remember that leaks have shown 801s performance on par with 805, supposedly...
[T-Mobile LG G3] DiamondJay20:
looks like the t-mobile Developer Edition exists. I wonder if it will for ATT/Verizon.
[T-Mobile LG G3] daraj:
Developer edition??? Does that mean the regular version is locked down like a fort Knox?? :confused:
[T-Mobile LG G3] rushless:
Anandtech stated the CPU performance and power efficiency were similar, but the GPU was a lot faster. That said, my main use for games is emulators, so no upside really from 800, 801 or 805. Emulators are almost 100% cpu powered and this includes 3D emulation.

If this device has 32GB and a micro sd, I might consider, but the display res seems better suited for the 805. I am on Verizon though, so who knows.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Kawaisa:
Hopefully it won't take forever for T-Mo to start selling it. I'm about to offload my N3. I'm tired to blurry pictures.
[T-Mobile LG G3] jeyd02:
I believe tmo will be one of the first to release it if not the first, they already got approved through ffc and have been kinda busy with the models and testing.
[T-Mobile LG G3] AngryDinosaur:
i will either get G3 or N4. waiting for SD 810 next year might be too long for me :D

edit: I think i will get G3. 5.5in is plenty big for me, waiting for a Note 4 will be too long and 5.7 is too big. There is a way to lower resolution and dpi with terminal to boost performance. Looking forward to it
[T-Mobile LG G3] kirdroid:
Good decision... That touchwiz is still ugly even with latest improvements. LGs latest UI looks much flatter and cleaner on G3.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Maine_Coon:
I am under impression they will not release until the end of June. Their sweepstakes are going until June 29, so I guess it is an indicator.

Hope I am wrong and they release it sooner :)

Can't wait. This phone fixes everything I did not like in my G2. And cool new features, such as laser focus.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Jfree3000:
I just hope they don't force ISIS on us with this phone, fingers crossed!
[T-Mobile LG G3] Maine_Coon:
What's wrong with Isis? Isis/WF promotion gave me $560 this year. Almost paid for my upcoming G3. I do appreciate this :D
[T-Mobile LG G3] mingkee:
warning

Isis has 5% service charge. Moreover, it doesn't work with ANY rooted device.
[T-Mobile LG G3] Maine_Coon:
First time I hear about the service charge. More details please.

Oh yes it works on ANY rooted device, at least for me :D Use Xposed Framework and RootCloak, hide the root from Isis in RootCloak - bingo!
[T-Mobile LG G3] hello00:
i hope they release it mid june..same thing happened when the m7 came out..they released it a few weeks after
[T-Mobile LG G3] mac00attack:
This is exactly how I feel. I ordered it on 6/30 and still no word as to when it will ship. I did get my case and screen protector in the mail today so at least I got a feel for the dimensions of the phone.
[T-Mobile LG G3] sn0warmy:
My case and screen protector are out for delivery today as well. It will be nice to see what the phone will feel like while my pre-order remains in the abyss somewhere.