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[Moverio BT-200 General] RedLineJoes:
fail hard much?

I must have face palmed myself a hundred times reading 90% of these posts from non developers who don't know how to rtfm. I will never get that time back.

The GPS has failed in my pair of BT200 glassES.

"Glass" is Google. Stop calling these "glass".

Mine are the latest Dev build, rooted, and installed Google play. The bt200 GPS did work until I side loaded the Waze application. Waze was able to get GPS a few times, but now the GPS will no longer sync with any application.
[Moverio BT-200 General] rbranam:
wound a lil tight

Try a chill pill...:cyclops:
[Moverio BT-200 General] phoanglong:
Guys, please help. What can I do to make a physical hard reset to my device? Is the any combination of button to access the boot menu?

Thanks,

Long
[Moverio BT-200 General] phoanglong:
is there anyway i can install custom firmware to BT-200? Please help..
[Moverio BT-200 General] jaykay2PT:
:p

That sounds like masturbation to me!!
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
Google Chromecast connection to TV

Hi all,

hope I didn´t overlook major Moverio to TV connection news, but what I saw here is that many tried in vain to hook their Moverio up.

The only solution I saw so far was a remote desktop app, but that wasn´t actually what I wanted. Exactly the reverse.

Today I found time to tinker with the (rooted!) Moverio and installed the YouTube app from 1Mobile app store.

To my surprise the YouTube app features a Chromecast connection icon and rrreally jaw-dropping: It not only listed my Chromecast hardware, but also the F and HU series Samsung TVs in the WAN!!! <WOW> And worked over Chromecast and without it directly to the TV automagically. The TV even switched to auto-sharing when I selected it!!!

So I set out to get the Chromecast app. Connection to the hardware is a bit flaky, but it works too.

What I could not get to run yet:

Chrome browser 39.0.2171.93. The Google Cast extension download is greyed out.

Hope this is good news for many!

Cheers

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] phoanglong:
Hi guys,

First of all, please accept my sincere apologies for my stupidity and my language as it is not my first. Second, i just want to clarify that I'm not a Developer and I don't know how to code :D. I'm just good with following guideline.. and here is my question:

I received my pair of glasses (i know, reading from your comments, these are not google glassES but I don't know what should i call it, maybe BT-200 :D) from eBay, yep, a guys on eBay sold this to me, it is in Japanese and I have tried every single possible way to turn it back to English but without luck, all of the button in Setting is grey out (or disabled to be exact).

I have read your comments thoroughly and i can see that my glasses are not on any of the firmware that you guys have stated like D or R etc..

My firmware is S1.0..5.SE.

A few other things that i have noticed:

1. Factory reset button is disabled

2. I can not access Moverio Market

3. It keeps showing the demo or some sort.

So my question really, is there anyway I can install Developer Firmware or Consumer Firmware to these glasses (Epson BT-200 Moverio)? Is there any software or there that I can use to install the Developer or Consumer Firmware to it? Does it has any button combination to access Recovery Mode?

Many thanks in advance.
[Moverio BT-200 General] ldreamsl:
Not in Focus

I see all written not in focus, is this normal?

There is something to calibrate and focus glasses?

Thanks.
[Moverio BT-200 General] HarshReality:
So, whos units came with the developer OS?
[Moverio BT-200 General] HorrorBrot:
Tranparent Example

Hello,

has anybody an example, where an activity starts with no background. Is that possible without wikitude or metaio?

I want to display a simple tranparent notification icon with no background. (In my layout I use a black background as descriped on Moverio Developers Site)

Please give an example :angel:

Thanks :good:
[Moverio BT-200 General] blueswen:
Miracast Problems

Hello guys,

Is there anyone knows how to let BT-200 be a miracast source but also can get wifi connect to internet ?

Our lab are trying to do some interactive app on that, but other people can see what user are doing on TV or something else.

And I have some problem with BT-200 be a miracast sink. I use HTC M7 as source, when I connected to my phone i always get connected error on BT-200. Is there anyone know how to fix this problem?

Thanks a lot.
[Moverio BT-200 General] gue22:
If you read a bit of this thread: There has not been much success to hook up the Moverio with other devices. Little with the consumer OS version and less so with the developer one as the latter doesn´t want any copyrighted content.

But you may want to check out my post "Google Chromecast connection to TV" on page 25. I think the Chromecast extension in the YouTube app does what you want and connects the Moverio to the my smart-TVs via Miracast even without the Chromecast hardware.

So you should be able to achieve what you want by using the Android Chromecast API.

Hope that helps

G.

---------- Post added at 08:57 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:53 PM ----------

My European Moverio came with the consumer version. I think in the US they ship it with the developer one -- with reference to the state of the product.

Regards

G.
[Moverio BT-200 General] cybericebyte:
If you want to mirror from you phone or other Android device try MirrorOP Sender and receiver in the play store market. There is a cost for the unlimited version which I plan to purchase next week. Now if I can just find a way to stream my voice calls to the bt-200 I'll be set.

Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Moverio BT-200 General] westharris:
How to view 3d on Netflix

anyone figured this out? I can enable 3d but it doesn't display right
[Moverio BT-200 General] jaykay2PT:
information source

This thread seems to be almost dead, are there any other sources of information for the Moverio glasses, please?
[Moverio BT-200 General] SDTSG:
you have to use Side by Side 3d. you can find some examples on youtube.
[Moverio BT-200 General] jonstatt:
I know the built-in camera is bad, but I just wanted to make sure mine is no worse than others. Not only is it low res, but it is noisy (a bit like an old VHS tape) with lots of chroma and luma sparkles even in good light! In other words, it is totally impossible to get a clean image even outdoors with it.
[Moverio BT-200 General] a44g:
It is a terrible camera indeed, we were planning to do some object/color recognition with OpenCV in our lab, but we're reconsidering now that we've seen how bad the quality is.

I guess Epson didn't want their glasses to be used to record and display copyrighted content, and they were so paranoid about it that they put a below-mediocre camera in it. And who suffers from it today ? Their exact target audience : developers. It's nonsense to advertise these as "Augmented Reality glasses" if you can't even interact with reality.
[Moverio BT-200 General] cybericebyte:
Please stop with all the copyrighted issues. This only applies to a small select few thing with the glasses. If anyone bothered to read the documentation before or even after purchasing would know that the camera is not designed for taking pictures. The camera is there simply for motion tracking which does not require a high resolution camera. Do your homework first before posting frivolous inaccurate information.

Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Moverio BT-200 General] jonstatt:
Low res is one thing. I agree that high res is not needed. But the noise is another. Even in good light, there is terrible noise over the image and that surely will affect object recognition and stability for AR applications even if motion tracking is all that is needed.. I can't imagine many applications working well at all indoors where the noise is even worse.
[Moverio BT-200 General] a44g:
I'm not talking about taking high-res images or videos, that's not the point of our experimentations. It is not optimal even for motion or color recognition since the colors are washed out in good lightning and the image is very grainy, as jonstatt stated. Digit recognition ? Don't even think about it, unless you stick each digit one by one in front of your face. Haar training ? Not impossible, but the camera is clearly the limiting factor.

As for the copyright part, for what other reason would Epson put an outdated VGA cam in their glasses ?

"The camera is there simply for motion tracking" : well, that's plain nonsense when talking about AR glasses.
[Moverio BT-200 General] cybericebyte:
What is plain nonsense is that you didn't read or do your homework before purchasing them.

Copy right protection is also plain nonsense. The most obvious reason would reduced cost to the consumer.

Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Moverio BT-200 General] a44g:
I can't say you're wrong on this one, it is indeed our fault for rushing into this product without paying close attention to every spec. We ****ed up. But honestly we didn't expect a 2014 $700 product advertised as an AR device to have a 2000-ish camera. But if that's normal to you, sure, go ahead and don't complain so you can have your ****ty little camera in the future models ;) .

Overall it's still a nice product for displaying information, we're excited about the possibilities and we've done great things already.

Btw I don't believe the cost argument at all, camera modules are dirt cheap nowadays. But we won't ever agree I guess, so there's no further discussion needed.
[Moverio BT-200 General] cybericebyte:
I guess you haven't done much price or spec comparison. Factor in my phone which has one of the most highest rated cameras an overall 800.00 product. When Google glass was selling with a higher spec camera was at best 1300.00 where do you think the coast is? The OS which is open source? Come on. I assure that with a higher res camera the price would jump. How much do you think each projector in you glasses run. I believe that your expectations to cost is way to high. Do some research on other AR devices and then get back to me tell me your finding and results.

Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Moverio BT-200 General] jonstatt:
I am not arguing, agreeing or disagreeing here...but I just wanted to emphasise again that the main issue is noise not resolution. Even in 2000 a VGA camera would not be covered in noise in bright conditions. This suggests something more than a bad sensor....could be bad shielding or something else....but it doesn't seem right at all and I can't believe that the cost to have a noise free VGA camera was the issue in terms of component costs. Maybe R&D costs (the project ran out of time), but not in terms of raw components.
[Moverio BT-200 General] cybericebyte:
The funny thing is I have never noticed what you are describing. Have you tried the most obvious by contacting support?

Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Moverio BT-200 General] jonstatt:
Support in my experience is nowhere near as good as forums for determining whether something is "normal" or not. However, I just found a review of the BT-200 at

http://www.slashgear.com/epson-moverio-bt-200-review-smashing-glass-23334807/

and about half way down the review they show the output of the camera in the context of a graphical overlay showing where a technician should undo a screw etc. The picture is just like mine, noise all over it....and you can see it's in good indoor light too. So clearly it is normal....just surprising!
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Hello,

Someone can tell me if it is possible to choose the distance of the image ?

If not, what is the distance of the "projected virtual" image ?

and last: if we wear our own glasses + espon glasses, is the virtual image size is smaller ?

(sorry if I m not very clear)

Thank you
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Ok, I ordered and received this great item ! In fact it s difficult to answer to my question, I can say 5 or 10 meters, depending of what you see in background.
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Google map 8.4.1 works fine after root, ..Google Framework ..etc.... (without dev mode, I installed tinyweb on my PC to simple install with default browser "no or old playstore apk" without adb).

Compact lenovo / ibm (KT-1255 for me) Wireless keyboard with trackpoint works fine (very fine: CTRL C, CTR V, middle button + up / down ..etc..)

Someone know a good/best HUD app to have traffic and direction without background ?

Thank you to all people of this thread for all informations.
[Moverio BT-200 General] Shreyasr91:
Moverio ROM dump / Android update???

Has anyone tried dumping the ROM from the device, to create a custom ROM. If not has someone tried to update the OS on the device from 4.0.4 to something better?
[Moverio BT-200 General] raykud:
I tried installing the Osmand App and it shows 0/0 satellites and its been like that for like 10 minutes.

I made my own app location based and still not able to get device location and on notification bar you can read the "Searching for GPS" and nothing happens.

I double checked that location is enabled on the system settings. Did you you do something special to make it work?
[Moverio BT-200 General] jonstatt:
I installed the GPS Status app and it showed it finding satellites, but never locking on (They would show as yellow or blue with fairly good signal, but never turning green). Then I tried A-GPS download option, and it still didn't work. Finally I tried the GPS cold reset feature in the GPS Status app, and all of a sudden after just 60 seconds it sprung into life and started working. In fact I even got an 8 satellite lock indoors! It looks like in my case there was some kind of corrupt data cache that cured my issue once cleared.
[Moverio BT-200 General] my2ndhead:
First experience...

Got my BT-200 a few days ago. Here's my first experience....

-Installing developer version worked instantly

-Was able to root device and add playstore following instructions posted here

-Was able to install Google Maps, Chrome, Youtube, Plex, VLC etc using the Market Helper App in Play Store by setting device type temporarily to Phone/LG Nexus 4 at Austria/3AT Operator.

-For GPS I tried an app called TetherGPS. This sets the location using GPS data from another Android phone connected through WiFi Tethering. Lite version works for 5 Minutes...

-Hoping for a newer Android version to come out soon...
[Moverio BT-200 General] raykud:
Do you have the GPS Status app link? as I don't seem to find it on the amazon store nor in the moverio app store.
[Moverio BT-200 General] jonstatt:
Hmm...at the time I just googled "Gps Status APK" and tried a few links until I found one that works. You can try this one but I cannot guarantee it works. http://www.appsapk.com/gps-status/

Go to it from the Moverio web browser, it will download when you click the download green button, go to "downloads" and click on the file and it should install it.
[Moverio BT-200 General] mauizoom:
Using BT 200 with DJI Vision app

I have been using the Moverio BT 200 now since May of last year to pilot my DJI Vision+.

First I used them originally configured, then I rooted, and installed Google Playstore and Maps.

Using Market Helper App, and specifying the Moverios as a Samsung S4 from Verizon.

I am still not able to connect Google Maps to the DJI app, this means that I am still missing some key features of the DJI app, like Ground Station, and more important, the feature called "find my Phantom" which sets a gps pointer of the Phantom on a map.

Is there a way to make this feature work on the Moverios ? It would be great to have this safety feature for piloting.
[Moverio BT-200 General] jaykay2PT:
I see my glasses are offering a system update to R1.1.2 today (5th march 2015) Anyone know what this upgrade gives?? Eric??
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Good news but I don t know if we can still root the glasses after ...
[Moverio BT-200 General] jaykay2PT:
That is why I would like the information about the new upgrade, BEFORE I (potentially) mess things up!!
[Moverio BT-200 General] britchris1:
Anyone figured out a way to install a newer version of android???
[Moverio BT-200 General] Vengeance1968:
F#@%#^$#%%@$%! Japan Epson

Okay, so I've had these glasses, the US developer version since they first hit Pre-Launch.

I have never been able to upgrade the developer OS and have been stuck with D1.0.1.

I have it rooted with Google Play etc and can use it to some extent with my DJI V2P.

I have been in contact with Epson USA's Eric to address certain issues. Thus far while these goggles are the only visually pass-through viewing I know of they are essentially a useless brick other than watching a movie.

I have inquired about an adapter so I could at least use the glasses themselves on another device, Android or not, but Epson JP has a proprietary video driver they will not release even to Epson USA. Eric has tried...

I have the QRCodes from various developer builds but the glasses QR reader will not recognize the QRCode.

Can someone please send me the latest developer build 1.1.2 system update APK from February 24th?

Has anyone had any luck hacking this unit or figuring out the pin-out on the glasses? If they are VGA and once the pin-outs are figured out how hard would it be for one of the XDA geniuses to write a driver? I'm not being sarcastic, I am dead serious, you guys have some mad skills on here.

Thank you,

Jason
[Moverio BT-200 General] Vengeance1968:
Bump.... Anyone?????????

bump!!! Anyone out there have any info???
[Moverio BT-200 General] Crilofer:
Hi everyone!

I have received the epson moverio bt200 a few days ago and I have updated to a new version. Can I do root the glasses¿
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Good question ! have you try the post 17 page 2 of this thread ? (and tell us if it works with the last version (R.1.1.2, that's right ?) ?
[Moverio BT-200 General] zxcvbnmn:
Question about remote desktop and splitscreen

I'm working on an AR application (for windows) with Unity that uses a USB webcam. I'd like to output the splitscreen 3D to the BT-200, but I'm not sure if it would work. Some people have success with getting remote desktop apps to run on the BT-200, but I was wondering how the glasses handle this output. When running remote desktop, is the display identical for the left and right screens? Or is the desktop feed split down the middle of the glasses? Sorry, I don't yet have a pair to test this with.
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Hi,

You have a hardware button and you can directly choose the mode 2D or 3D:

If you select 3D, the android screen is splited into two parts, one for right, the other for left (the resolution is divided by two). So, you can split any application but it's stupid if your application don't display 3D side by side !

(if your PC send 3d side by side image to bt200, it's ok)

In fact, I try to play with my iPhone game (PAC-LABY 3D) in Relief side by side mode and with Airplay mirroring server on my BT-200: it works ! (you must have a good network and resolution is poor, normal).
[Moverio BT-200 General] Crilofer:
but it´s safe to do root with this version?
[Moverio BT-200 General] Jetfixer:
I've rooted mine again since the latest upgrade. No problems. I still have a very pressing need for Android 4.2 or higher...
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Just for info: I don't know if you want 4.2 for more applications, but you can have a lot of more applications if you download apk with your chrome browser of your PC (with plugin) from playstore and install it after manualy (after download, copy apk in your sdcard, and open it with a filebrowser from your BT-200 to launch installation).
[Moverio BT-200 General] claydoc:
Question

Hi Jason,

can I ask how you got google maps on the BT-200's to work with DJI app... EG. Ground Station.

Without Rooting it.

Thanks

Regs Chris

---------- Post added at 11:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 11:38 PM ----------

Hi,

With the DJI PH 2 V +, did you try ground station?

It needs google maps installed... How did u do this?

Thanks

Regs Chris
[Moverio BT-200 General] Jetfixer:
I need Android 4.2 or higher to run the DJI Pilot App to fly my Inspire 1 with the Moverio's...
[Moverio BT-200 General] joweb42:
Update Question

hi

what is the current Android Version after all updates ?

THX

JW
[Moverio BT-200 General] claydoc:
4.0.4
[Moverio BT-200 General] Xenn0X:
Root the moverio and install play store :)
[Moverio BT-200 General] mcmanaman666:
Moverio

Hi, how do you introduce films of 7 or more GB MicroSD card in the Moverio?

Could you format in NTFS mode ?

Thanks
[Moverio BT-200 General] thedox:
Android Update

Hey Folks,

I also am finding the need for an updated version of Android. I am building an application that relies on websockets that use binary data and the integrated WebView prior to Android 4.4 simply won't support what I need to do. I have managed to get websockets working with base64 data, and looking into solutions such as crosswalk and socket.io, but they don't adequately address my application needs.

Any word from Epson on updating the OS to a newer version of Android?
[Moverio BT-200 General] joweb42:
Android Version

hi,

is anyone here that is registered with Epson as a developer, and can say something about whether the BT-200 at all ..... get updates to 4.1,4.2,4.3

I can not find a forum for BT-200th One solution would be a direct mail.
[Moverio BT-200 General] aboelsoud:
Boot Loop After Editing build.prop

I edited build.prop file to be able to download incompatible apps after I edited it . the glass restart , once , it open . How can solve this issue ?

I searched alot . All I found that enter recovery mode by pressing on volume button and the power button but this doesn't work on the glass

I hope find your replies , its URGENT ...
[Moverio BT-200 General] stanhtc:
camera again

Hi guys,

I've spent hours of trying to find some more detail info about the camera . So far I understand just few points. The camera is more of sensor than picture device. The camera is low res a reportedly very noisy. Device itself is AR glasses. I'm not looking to take pics but to use camera exactly for the purpose, to track things of real world and augment the user's view. However I can't find some important information about the camera like what is its FPS, FOV and whether it is CMOS and whether it suffers from rolling shutter effect. Can someone who holds the device tell me something more about the camera?

Thanks a lot for help.

Stan
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Difficult to answer with the right answers. Do you know a camera tool to do or calcul your needs ?

- bad quality: yes

- FPS seems fast (50 image/s

I think

)

- FOV: I don't know

- CMOS : I don't know

- No Rolling shutter effect for me but I ll confirm you later with some tests
[Moverio BT-200 General] shawnfr:
Mmm I have got into a boot loop too.

I tried the reset button and various combinations of volume / power etc. and I can't find a recovery mode either.

I am emailing Epson Tech Support, but if you managed to find out how to get it into recovery, can you let me know?
[Moverio BT-200 General] aboelsoud:
I couldn't , I asked alot and I called Epson Tech support , they said go to the service center .
[Moverio BT-200 General] stanhtc:
Hi, thanks a lot for response. Is the device capable of recording video? If so would you mind to record short one for me?

Whether camera has CMOS or not does not matter much it just pre-indicates global or rolling shutter.

If you can record some faster yaw head movement when you look at some straight vertical line like doors for example we can see how good/bad rolling effect is and also if you can say how far away from doors you are and what is the width of the door then we can estimate FOV from that.

Thanks for your help.

Stan
[Moverio BT-200 General] myspac:
Hi, I send to you a sample in your private xda box..