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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Gossieur:
Sudden battery drain

Hi,

Someone else noticed a huge battery drain after the latest Gear Manager update ? (25/07/2014)

I went back to the earlier version and all is ok again.

Since downgrading is not possible, you'll have to uninstall GM and install the older version.

This causes a factory reset, so you'll have to root again, and install everything all over again :(
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dragid10:
But doesn't it only give you the option to move pages? Or is there an option to move individual app icons
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
You can rearrange apps by long pressing and then dragging them where you want them. To add an app to the home screen - go in to Apps, long press the app you want to add, and you'll see a little house icon appear in the header. Drag the app (while still long pressing it) on to the icon and it's added to the home screen. To rearrange apps long press them and drag them to where you want them to be. That works on the home screen and within the Apps app. To remove an app from the home screen long press it and drag it to the trash can icon that appears in the header. It's all quite flexible.

To show big icons on the home screen pinch out with two fingers. Pinch in to see the mini icons.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dragid10:
Thank you, I actually found this by using the help button haha
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] deohrishikesh7:
Yes i have abt 500 600 apps

How many apps you have to uninstall before it starts working?

My gear 1 is collecting dust without the notification s
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
500 apps here, working fine, user error
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] deohrishikesh7:
Lolzz i had 777 apps

uninstall in progress

thanks for help...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] deohrishikesh7:
Uninstalled close to 200 apps

Still it keeps crashing. ..

Do i have to reinstall gear manager again
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] wiccan-two:
I have 300 currently and its hit and miss whether it crashes or not. Clearing ram might help. It all depends on the device you have. Faster devices with more ram will more easily cope.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] deohrishikesh7:
Yes its working now ... Thank you all
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] rob419:
Ok, first off,,, you're all insane. Don't worry, I can say it. I'm one too. Agreed? Agreed.

I've bounced back and forth from Tizen to Android on my Gear 1 a few times now. As many have mentioned, ~both~ OS's offer benefits and deficits.

For me, it comes down to two things: battery and functionality.

Yes, I Love the fact that I can play a full, albeit tiny, game of Carcassonne ON MY WATCH! Thanks to android (and null!) However, is that what I purchased the stupid thing for? Not entirely.

Flipside: Tizen.. I ~really~ like the longer battery life and I LOVE the notification interplay between my G1 and Note3. (anyone else notice that fully viewed noti's on the Gear are marked as read and cleared on the phone?!) The best 'feature' being able to clear all noti's at less than a billion clicks!

Yes, I miss being able to send full txt's without speaking. Yes, I miss the rolled eyes of my friends when I pull up a web page that no one can read. But really, what am I truly missing?

The watch is a micro-interface for your phone.

Do what you will.

Use whichever OS floats your digital boat.

But both OS's suck. And Both are amazingly incredible!

rokon.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Avignon:
I did both Tizen and GM at the same time - my battery life is now cut by at least half.

I did the whole uninstall GM/factory reset Gear as outlined a couple of pages back - twice.

No change.

Nothing really on my Gear in the way of apps. Connected to Note 3.

Where would I find older GM and Gear Android firmware to attempt a "rollback" ?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] hipertec:
hoping someone can help- i just upgraded to a Samsung S5 with the Gear 1 and Tizen. My past was a S3 phone. When i upgraded to S5, it also upgraded my Gear Manager.

Now when i get notifications on my phone, it sounds on my phone and the Gear. In the past, was was able to only sound on my Gear and if I was wearing my watch and pickup my phone, it would bypass the screen password.

How can i get this activated again?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] shamrock505:
I also recently switched to Tizen and did everything you did and battery is nothing great - read reviews on Samsung apps for Gear manager and sounds like the latest update may have caused battery life problem-I'm gonna hold out for another update
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
User error, I'm at 36% after 3 1/2 days, I easily get 4 days moderate use at work all day
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] shamrock505:
Well, I'm just thrilled for ya
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Avignon:
So what could the user error possibly be?

There is no difference in my usage from a week ago.

Then I would get 2 - 3 days.

Now 8 - 12 hours.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] shamrock505:
Won't turn off

Last couple of days Gear 1 w/Tizen won't shut off - restarts everytime - have reset, uninstalled /reinstalled everything, even reflashed firmware - any ideas? Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] creasqui:
@ ALL

HEY guys i think SAMSUNG did a mistake !

The Gear 1 v700 has 315mAh Battery (-> and it is slightly bigger which could mean that the battery is bigger)

Gear 2 / 2NEO do have a 300mAh which is a minimal difference & it do also has a dual core ( and some other functions like IR and Heartrate...)

So what i want to explain is , that the batterylife of the gear ONE is better, so have fun
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
For those of you having battery issues on tizen, you have done a reset in recovery like I have mentioned numerous times in this and other threads... It is impossible to realize the true battery savings that tizen had to offer if you do not take this step...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Avignon:
yes - I've done the reinstall GM and reset in recovery several times.

My battery life is worse than the original firmware from last year.

I'm trying to figure out how to get it back to where it was last week with the previous GM and Android.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] akz080:
if i am coming from null 23 to tizen can I flash the latest tizen fw to go back to stock? or do I have to flash to a previous version and then update to tizen?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dabenaute:
hi try this

Gear Manager/settings/movements of activation/disable.That what i did and now i get better battery life : D
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] qverk:
Hello!

i am running Tizen on my gear with a non-samsung phone (nexus 5). I have downloaded some apps through the gear manager samsung app store (build.prop editing), and they did not install on the gear (extracted .wgt files).

Although that is understandable, I have not been able to install them via the Tizen SDK sdb, or by importing the app into the sdk and building (privilege_level_violation).

I really want media controls on my gear; does anyone know of a way to sideload a music control app on the gear with a non samsung? I would really appreciate any help at all :)

Kind regards from Norway.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] shamrock505:
I use the wearable widget - you can place 1 widget on Gear - Spotify for me
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] qverk:
Thanks for the reply!

Unfortunately I am still unable to install this as I have a Nexus 5 (without touchwiz obviously). I have managed to download the app, and the .wgt I need, but sdb gives me a signature error when I try to install it.

Has anyone gotten around this and found a way to sideload?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] burchy:
Hi!

I noticed that even if the device is a Galaxy S5 and there are a lot of visible apps for Gear1, searching some apps are not visible in the store. Probably are for gear2 only :confused: So there's a way rooting tizen to change the build.prop like android in order to modify the device model in Gear2?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] emuandco:
Gear changing is optional. Try changing your phone to:

SM-G900F aka Galaxy S5. Worked great here.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] burchy:
Thank's for you reply!:fingers-crossed:

I don't need to change my phone's build.prop because I have an S5.. my question is.. with SM-G900F and Gear1 ican't find some apps like D.M.A navy watch... this apps are only for gear2 and if yes can we modify also the gear1 model in gear2..

thank's
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] emuandco:
I have a Gear 1 @ NF1 FW too. I changed the parameters.

ro.product.model=SM-G900F

ro.product.name=SM-G900F

ro.product.device=SM-G900F

Then I rebooted and BOOM, a million more apps, I even installed DMA Navi that way here.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] burchy:
My model is already SM-G900F.. probably it depends on the country?!? thank's for your reply!! :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bamboozles:
Hi there, would you be so kind as to telling me if the Runtastic app is available on Gear 1 Tizen?

Thanks a bunch!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] emuandco:
Race Yourself Gear Edition is what I get then.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jonboyuk:
Sadly no, I'm gutted about it!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bamboozles:
^^ Thank you both.

I tried Tizen for some time, but there's only Strava there (amongst a measly total of 34 apps).

Guess i'm staying put on Android for now..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Skin1980:
The app is there... Check my thread in apps and theme
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
OK I've searched and sifted through a bunch of your posts and threads and can't seem to find the one where you describe how to get runtastic to work with the gear.. Please post a link or explain here.. I'm sure I'm not the only one that is waiting for this particular app to make their life complete...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] JagXK8:
http://xdaforums.com/gear-2/themes-apps/req-request-apks-want-tizenmod-rom-3-0-t2850873
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Skin1980:
Just install my latest rom on the gear and then the apk you can find in that thread. You need also runtastic pro on your phone in order to work. Btw i'm not sure it works since i didn't try it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jonboyuk:
Sorry Runtastic is there. I've installed it (with your Tizen 3.0 ROM). However all it does is show a splash screen - the app doesn't actually work :( Thanks though.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dovahkiin691:
I am hoping to invest in this area of wearables soon
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Headshot.de:
same problem on my find5 with OmniROM

i think Skin1980 have signied the Pro Version of Runtastic ?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jonboyuk:
I'm using the pro version of the app on my phone, so that's not an issue for me :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dylan2610:
Extraction

I paired my gear with my brothers galaxy and downloaded some apps for tizen is but I'm using an xperia and I can't find the files to reinstall them in my gear manager?

Any idea where I can find my tizen apps on the root of the galaxy?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Brendo:
Nah, you need the apk from the phone. The phone apk installs the rest on the watch
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] emuandco:
And if you don't use a supported phone, you need this: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54874951&postcount=3
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ogre8:
This thread has been quiet for some time.

The thread started as Samsung moved to Tizen and then appeared split support back to Android wear with many uncertain of the future.

Much has now been resolved. I recall asking in a Samsung demonstration store about the gear live and being told 'we know nothing about that as it is a google play store product made by Samsung, not an actual Samsung product.' Since then the Gear S has confirmed that Samsung is still indeed moving in the Tizen direction with further change of direction for themselves at this time.

But if Samung is commited to Tizen, has is the application base for the gear now? Months later, is there now more apps for the original gear running Android, or running Tizen. There has now been almost as long since the Tizen move as time the original gear was android only. How have people's experiences with moving to Tizen turned out over the longer time and how many apps are there now?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] wazzaman:
Anyone succeeded in getting MAPS or WAZE navigation notification on tizen ?

Thks
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] evy_bcn:
Hello!

with the latest version of Galaxy Gear do not get notifications WhatsApp.

though I have now changed my cell phone, is not Samsung and I can't longer use the watch.

I have not found a way to re-synchronize with my new android terminal 6.

See if you encounter any operational version to update to Android Wear watch

---------- Post added at 01:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:58 PM ----------

Hello!

there any way that works for using the Samsung Galaxy Gear SM-V700 with a mobile phone "Not Samsung"?

Thank you!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] erwinsie:
just wondering what is the latest tizen o/s version this watch has? i have mine on the box for years. now using huawei phone and still not sure if the latest tizen on this phone will works with non samsung phones.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ijonb:
Silly question, but can I install the UK FW on a US Gear? I noticed none of them list as US.

Edit: Sounds like Daster did it, but I wanted to confirm before moving forward.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] WarlockLord:
Yes, that's what I installed to fix TWRP being all screwed up on the firmware I had when I bought it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
Null romp

I'm on null rom (23) and i want to install tizen..

What I have to do?

Just download android firmware, flashing via odin (this will remove twrp and fix connection with kies?) and after using kies to upgrade to tizen?

Thanx!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] JimSmith94:
That's what I have read as well. The bootloader changes which is why the update is only available with Kies and not over the air.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] radekklamzynski7:
Yes, Kies or Odin ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
You can install the UK (BTU) Tizen ROM on a U.S. Gear using Odin. I just did it and it worked fine. So now I'm on Tizen. Is it my imagination or are there no apps? As bad as app availability was on the GG1 on Android, Tizen is a barren wasteland. Maybe the app developers that got seduced by Samsung's "grand plan" for the GG1 got tired of building apps for such a small audience and don't trust Samsung to stick with a direction?

Anyway, moving to Tizen is inevitable so I'll just suffer through it. Now that Samsung's made Tizen their "official" smartwatch platform developers are going to stop maintaining the apps they built for Android anyway so they'll eventually die when their companion phone apps stop supporting them. At least with all the GG1 folks moved to Tizen the number of users will increase, hopefully enough to get more app developers interested.

Oh well. At least we didn't get orphaned. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gmarcoux:
Dumb question, but how do I flash the firmware if I downloaded it from samfirmware. Do I have to use Odin or do I still use Kies?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dabenaute:
odin of course ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] lazer9:
I have some questions for those who updated to Tizen. I'm currently on the US version and running Null Rom and debating on whether to leave Android for Tizen on this Gear 1.

- Does the Gear Manager still support the extra "Notifications" for Gmail, Touchdown, Other SMS apps, ect...?

- What apps actually come with Tizen as I just seen a post referencing there are hardly any?

- Is there a worthwhile improvement in battery life?

- Any other benefits in upgrading and are those that left Null Rom to this Tizen system happy with their decision?

Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Muffycheeks:
Provided Tizen survives. Android has a larger following with developers and Samsung is not the only player in town. Samsung has lots of money and they'll have to spend a lot to over take Android.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
No you cant downgrade back to Android. I just tried and Odin crashed then the Gear went to a firmware failed screen so had to reflash Tizen.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] infinityhombre:
The notifications for other apps are still intact

There aren't many apps this is true. Comes with the basic stuff sleep, pedometer, music player, media controller, svoice etc.

So far the batter does seem to last me quite a bit longer.

I went right from null to tizen. So far the watch to me seems to be a bit more responsive.

My gear is actually on loan from Samsung and I have to return it in the next few weeks in exchange for a newer model so I had to restock anyway so I figured I'd make the jump. For what I do with it, seems to work fine for me.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] :
Thats a bummer, do you know if the android bootloader was included? don't think i will take the leap unless TasGear and gg-sms makes their way to tizen.

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
dont bother. Stay with Android and root

I did have Null installed once and it used way too much battery so i went back and just rooted it and it was heaps better.

I upgraded to Tizen and there are nearly no apps for it. Out of the apps I had installed about 10 I now have 3 as the others aren't available. And out of those 3 only 2 work. And the new apps aren't smooth, they are jumpy and choppy and just feel cheap.

As for the battery its still too early to say.

And its got all notifications. All apps just like the last version of Android.

The only real benefit is backgrounds. You will loose a lot of features that you got used to. Swipe up and down are gone so you now have to dig through the apps to find the dialer and camera. Unless its a different swipe now but swiping up does nothing and swiping down goes back but at the clock it does nothing.

As you cant go back to Android I'm stuck. As no apps are on it I wont be using it as much so battery life will be better.

Android with root can do HEAPS more than this will ever do. Dont bother with upgrading but Samsung will force everyone sooner or later.

---------- Post added at 04:01 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:52 PM ----------

dunno? It was the latest 4.2.2 from SamMobile for Australia that I tried. Does Null have the bootloader with it? Someone should try that one.

I found out you can just reflash Tizen with Odin and it works fine again so thats a huge relief.

Someone else can try flashing Null and see what that does as I'm done unless I know I can reflash Android then I'll do it as this Tizen is crap if you ask me. Hopefully more apps will come soon for it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dabenaute:
Some screens
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ApoKyla:
I am looking through the files... Looks like they included a new partition file, and a new bootloader...

If I knew of a tool to delve deeper than just the tar file, (like into the .bin or .img files...) I could dig deeper.

Any Suggestions?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Does the philosophical really matter here? Samsung's current platform (which now includes us) is Tizen. With the GG1 being moved to Tizen the GG1 Android software will be left to die of neglect. No more support from Samsung in terms of keeping up with phone s/w changes. No more support from app developers who released Android apps for the GG1. The answer from both will be "update to Tizen." So here we all are. Let's hope with some critical mass Tizen app development picks up. I'd rather be on a platform sure to get future support (Tizen) then stuck on one that Samsung views as a failed experiment (Android on the GG1).

People who bought the GG1 as a garage project should be fine. You can continue to use the GG1 as a h/w play thing and load anything you want on it including AndroidWear. But without Samsung releasing or updating s/w for anything but Tizen going forward what's available now for Android is all there's going to be. And what does work will continue to decline as phone s/w and apps change and no one but Samsung can make the corresponding changes necessary on the GG1's original core s/w. Again, Samsung's answer to any issues related to the GG1's Android s/w will be to move off of it. I'm sure the cost reduction in not having to support two smartwatch platforms factored in to Samsung's decision to move the GG1 to Tizen.

We'll all be on Tizen eventually. Either through carrots (upcoming apps and features) or sticks (Samsung no longer supporting the GG1 on Android).

P.S. - Samsung sold 500K smartwatches in Q1 and 1M overall leaving them with 71% market share. That's a lot of Tizen.;)

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/05/19/samsung-smartwatch-marketshare-hits-71-sells-500k-units-in-q1/
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Not sure whats going on but When I tried to flash Android back I had 65% battery and now I got 100%. So it charged in about 20 mins. Is that normal or is that quicker?

It just connected to the PC not a charger like I usually charge it on.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] :
If there is a new partition table

the only thing i can think of is to get the old .pit file from the android firmware. But idk, some users have gotten bricks when playing with .pit files.

I have never bricked my phone using .pit files though. and i believe Heimdall on linux lets you write a .pit file if you still got android.

I want to try but i dont want to get stuck on tizen. Im to fond of androids freedom.

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Samsung's not screwing around. The "GALAXY Gear" has been re-named "Gear" on the UK support website and the Tizen user manual is now the only one available. Here's a link for people that want to understand the new environment.

http://downloadcenter.samsung.com/c...740399/SM-V700_UM_EU_Tizen_Eng_D04_140520.pdf
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] ApoKyla:
The sboot.bin file has references to boot an Android kernel!

Seems to be right after the references to recovery, Has anyone tried to flash twrp yet?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] vincerocks:
Instructions, please

Hi, I'm new here (obviously) and with Samsung and Android.

Can anyone give step-by-step instructions on how to manually update my Galaxy Gear 1 to Tizen? Also, is it possible to do it using a MacBook Pro? I've downloaded Odin but apparently it can't run on my laptop. Will Kies do the trick?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mrfett79:
Watch Styler

Just wondering if Watch Styler will work with the Tizen OS. According to gearfaces.com only the analog themes work. Would like to not loose any customization I have currently. I know this is minor but it is part of what I like about my GG1.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] IV97:
Odin

Download the file from the country you are from (if you're from the US just use the UK version) and click PDA in odin and select your file! Make sure the box in the top right of oden is green and lists your gear. Than select flash! I have tried to use odin on my old mac without good results. I would recommend either running a bootcamp partition to work with android/flashing.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] kminatta:
i don't see the option for PDA in Odin3.09. i have BL, AP, CP, CSC. what am i missing? thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] lazer9:
I believe you select AP
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dabenaute:
+1: Bien:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] vincerocks:
Thanks!

Thanks! But only 4 countries are listed in sammobile.com/firmwares/ Is there another site I can get it from. Doesn't work on my Mac, btw. I'll reboot to my Windows partition after I confirm the process. I'm from the Philippines, btw, so I'm not really sure if that's a listed country for the updates.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bikrame:
Guys if we dont like Tizen , is it possible to go back to android ?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] WarlockLord:
This has been answered. As of right now, the answer is no. Someone suggested that getting the PIT file backed up from android before flashing Tizen may help, but this is NOT confirmed and is merely a possibility.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] sikesjb:
Use the search option on the top right across from "FIRMWARE." Then put the model number in (SM-V700).
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] radekklamzynski7:
http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=SM-V700&details=Galaxy_Gear
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Gwanatu:
Can we please get some info in the OP if this is going to be the official Tizen discussion thread? Things like what release we're supposed to use based on what country (I'm in the US and have no idea which Tizen release to choose), tips and tricks, etc? Thanks guys.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] kminatta:
the update keeps failing with Odin 3.09.