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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crazed_z06:
Is the Tizen upgrade rolling out in the US right now? Is it a staged rollout? Kies says mine currently has the latest firmware when I try to upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
Good job!! Why touch doesn't work?

Thanxxxxx

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
No. Yes, all of the EU has received it. That's because you have the latest U.S. firmware which is still a version of Android behind everywhere else.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
Backup Data

Using Kies 3, I tried to update my gear in Canada but it still says "This is the latest SW" on Kies. Does anybody update Gear using Kies in Canada or US? I read that user can backup data before the update so that even if all data is wiped out he can restore back. Does anybody know what kind of data we can backup (like pics, videos, voice memos, settings etc)? I really want to backup/restore my data what I read is correct
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] flouflou:
Use odin!

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dimitri407:
How did you get these to show up in the Gear Manager? I have been able to install these through sdb but they aren't showing up to select in the Gear Manager.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
Is there anybody that update using Kies? Can we backup data using Kies before the update? Which data can we backup?

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Did anybody update to Tizen using Kies? Is there a backup data option while updating? If yes, can you please share which data you were able to backup (images, videos, voice memo, etc)?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] WarlockLord:
If touch truly is a problem after reverting to android, my guess is that it has something to do with parameters that are flashed using param.bin.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
The Tizen firmware comes with the PIT file so just extract that if you need it. :)

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Yep I can confirm you dont have Touch when you downgrade back to Android with that PIT. I can install any Android firmware but touch just wont work.

Even TWRP installs like it should but no touch.

If you reinstall Tizen everything works again so its not permanent. We just need a way to fix this and its done.

There has to be a dev here that knows how to fix this. I'm just the end user, I'm not a dev so I dont know everything about the Gear but someone with more knowledge than me will have a better idea of how to fix this.

Is there another recovery other than TWRP that can use the button instead? Maybe that might be a way around? I do have a TWRP backup just need to find a way to copy it over and restore without touch. And I cant install NULL for the same reason, cant copy, cant touch.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
That very first PIT that was posted was corrupt so I fixed it.

Remember remove the TXT at the end.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fitspiros:
Hello, i was tried to update my gear via kies and stuck at downloading mode. With the Odin I have the same issue.. please help me.

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I found Kies doesn't like Download mode, you need to be in normal use mode for Kies to see your Gear.

Odin is the other way around, Odin needs it in Download mode to flash the firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] richie_mp:
anyone tried this Pit file ? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53090282&postcount=235 from post above ? is the touch working now ?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Yea, I fixed it and still no touch.

I went back to Tizen and touch worked so I used the PIT and downgraded back to Android and touch stops working.

We need another way to fix touch as I've tried multiple firmwares and all sorts of combinations and still cant get touch to work on Android.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] richie_mp:
This tizen update is pulling me .... the reason being bt headset compatibility .... though i hope we shall be able to return back to android if needed thanks to people like you.

except apps all other features are present , as tizen is new so more apps will follow in due time.

HOPE COMPELS ME !!

regards,

richie
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] snake65:
Update on battery, by now 5pm Iam usually at about 50-40 percent on tizen I'm at 81 with the same usage so to me that a big difference.

Cheers

John
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] lilstevie:
There is a chance that touch isn't working because of an update with the touchscreen controller firmware. I will have a look at it when I get around to updating my kernel for the Tizen FW.

The problem with a TSP firmware update is reverting will be difficult, the best bet is probably going to be to backport the TSP driver from the Tizen kernel once the source is released for that.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Instead of reverting the Tizen firmware how about we just get the Android version. Its gotta be available somewhere. Is there a way to get it off the Gear1 with Android?

Is there a way to do a full 1:1 dump and just flash that?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] rizcom:
is there a calculator.wgt i can sideload as this would be good Thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] lilstevie:
Touchscreen firmwares tend to be closed systems, this is why on other older devices (Some HTC and Samsung phones) there have been reported issues identical to this where the touchscreen doesn't respond. Usually it is because the communication interface changes and breaks things along the way. Reverting the system can be hard to impossible, some implement a one way lockdown counter preventing older versions being loaded, others just do a simple version check. If the Android flash doesn't automatically change the TSP firmware it is unlikely that it will be a simple task to revert the upgrade.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Well that sucks. It also confirms upgrading to Tizen is a one way option and you cant downgrade back to Android.

Anyone want a Gear 1? I'm selling it now. I already have another Android Gear 1 lined up just need to sell this one first.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] willcor:
calculator wgt

hi ,

See calculator wgt in this thread ,

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2731484

(i sideloaded/installed with Tizen sdk , command is "sdb install SimpleCalculatorFree.wgt"

..Credit goes to smeiff see post #1 )

plse note...

The first zip file he has listed worked 100%

The second did not install, it said something about no signature?

(Also tried to use Tizen sdk on win 8( laptop ) but bit buggy) ,and " battles" to see devices ?

Had to use pc win 7 ..no problem see/finding devices and installing.!!!

Also sideloaded/ installed some clockfaces wgt ,no problem

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2723013&page=28

( look in this thread eg.. post #271.. credit ice097)

good luck
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] WarlockLord:
Unless the CSA file is touchscreen firmware (I doubt it), then there is no firmware file in the odin package. It's more likely that the param.bin file changed something in the bootloader so that different values are provided to the OS as to where the screen is touched. There was something similar done on the note 2 when we got the 4.3 upgrade, different values were needed for wifi to work.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Looking at Samsung-updates this morning, Tizen has been rolled out to 72 markets (still not the U.S. but Canada's there). That's the fastest I've ever seen Samsung push an update. So effectively, as far as Samsung's concerned, the GG1 is now a Tizen device and all Android support will cease with CSR's telling customers with Android issues they need to "update to Tizen."

For people using the GG1 and other Samsung wearables "stock" this is great news as there's now an audience of 1M+ Tizen devices to write apps for. Since Tizen is open source and HTML5-based the learning curve is low for devs and I'm guessing quite a few will find taking on something new a challenge. What happens to development for current stuff on Android like null remains to be seen. Regardless, outside XDA, Android on Samsung's wearables is officially dead. At least until GalaxyWear (AKA: Android Wear) which Samsung just trademarked is launched.

Personally, I could care less about what OS my devices use. I just want them to do lots of "stuff" I find useful, practical, and cool. I'll go with whichever OS does that best. For the stock GG1 that's shaping up to be Tizen. So be it. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
Been running Tizen for about 4hrs and there is no way I'd want to go back :)

Notifications for all apps - check

Poweramp controlled via media controller app - check

All other functionality works (calls etc), smoother, battery better (so far) etc etc..

I'm paired to an Xperia Z Ultra so maybe the comparison to Android isn't a fair one (due to lack of non-samsung compatibility) but on first impressions Tizen is well worth the update if only for non samsung like me :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bschrib:
I agree with this 100% about just using whatever makes my watch the most functional for me (which is why I'm planning to leave Tizen OS on it).

With that in mind I'm going to try and look into the remaining business with touch screen to see if I can find a handle on that. I figure it'd be easier to jump from Android to Android Wear as opposed to coming from Tizen OS. In fact I fully expect that Samsung will never update their Galaxy Gear to Android Wear even if they updated the Gear 2 to it.

This is all just speculation of course, and we don't even know yet if porting Android Wear onto the Galaxy Gear will even be possible. But it's sure fun to imagine.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
How can I backup my pictures before the update?

When I connect Gear to PC, it does not show the Gear on My Computer.

Also, can we restore apps if we do the update via Kies?

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How can I transfer my pictures and voice files on Gear to my PC?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
If your Gear's paired with a Samsung phone you should be able to send any pics on it to the phone. If it's paired to a non-Samsung phone you can send pics to either Path or Evernote via their respective Gear apps and then download them to your PC from there.

It will post-Tizen. ;)

Actually you'll be able to move pics, music, and vids to your Gear rather than just displaying what was captured via the Gear.

Nope. And most of your current apps will be gone. Android apps don't run on Tizen and future apps depend on developers seeing the opportunity and writing (or re-writing) apps that are compatible.

They should transfer to a Samsung phone or you can save them to Evernote on a non-Samsung phone where you can then download them to a PC.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] BarryH_GEG:
Install either Path or Evernote on your Gear. Once you do "share" should appear in the Gallery app and chose either of the two apps. Evernote's probably the cleaner of the two to use.

Here's what's available in Samsung Apps, at least for me. Pretty sparse.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] emuandco:
How did you get notifications work? What Gear Manager do you use? And which manual did you follow? My messages still stay silent. The same like before on Android...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dd323:
How did you do your setup as I have the gear and HTC one m7
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bomavim:
On Android Gear, did you have any of those apps:

Feedly,

Quick Dice1,

Life360,

Highlight ,

Easily Do Smart,

FBquickview,

Antique clock,

Neon clock

After you update to Tizen, did Gear Manager restore these apps automatically while setting up? (I saw a restore option on Gear manager and the apps above are common both in Android and Tizen). Or you go to Samsung Apps and manually instal them again?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] banditsw:
Hmm. I wasn't aware that the Gear running Tizen would work with non-Samsung devices. What it the extent of the functionality with your Z?

My Gear has not yet been updated to Tizen. I have it paired to my GS3, which I plan to replace after I leave Verizon for T-mobile next month. I had been reluctant to update since I thought keeping it running Android would make it easier later with a new non-Samsung phone -- i.e. Null Rom or a Android Wear port when I get my new phone.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] RiPpeR_dUdE:
Mine keeps failing also and now I'm stuck in download mode....
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fitspiros:
Try another country, i had the same problem.

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
[MENTION=4011995]banditsw[/MENTION] I just loaded the latest gear manager from the gear manager thread (including all associated "embedded apps" plus gearmanagerstub.apk) and then paired via this app - no tethering or pdanet required this time (unlike null_).

In gear manager you can choose which apps notify (see screener).

Surprisingly media controller controls poweramp really well plus I've answered and made calls without any problems.

I didn't follow any guide, just followed my nose.

Tizen flash through odin took about 15 tries plus I reflashed stock over null prior to Tizen.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] banditsw:
Thanks. That's good to know. Ultimately, just want notification functionality from the Gear if I switch to a non-Samsung device.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
As confirmation, Your quote of my post just popped up on my watch :thumbup:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] RiPpeR_dUdE:
Finally able to fix my update failing after numerous attempts of trying different countries and ODIN versions. For some reason, the same ODIN versions, 3.07, 3.09 that have worked fine with all other Samsung devices was the cause.

I was finally able to find a 3.09 version that worked, not sure what the difference is but as soon as I hit START I could tell it was different.... update went through immediately and I'm up and running now.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] banditsw:
I am in the US, and I am fairly certain that the US update will come soon. Being that I am impatient, I am considering using ODIN to flash one of the other country's Tizen software instead of waiting for Kies to show an update.

Question: What is the difference between Tizen versions of another English speaking nation (such as Canada or the UK) vs. the US?

Thanks!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
I'm using Canadian version in Australia - not sure of any differences between the different country versions.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] errol19:
There is Aussie F/W available now, but I don't think you will notice any difference.

You'll be able to use KIES but I always use odin
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] nxneko:
I flashed XEO, and there are like no apps.... I would imagine our G1s could run most if not all the apps from G2 now, unless its because I flashed a polish version/or am in US. Not even a calculator! geez. Unless samsung has a nasty habit of pulling apps alot, which wont help their cause.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
Just out of curiosity, how long did this take to flash? I managed to get the British version of the firmware and it's currently stuck on flashing zimage.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] bschrib:
So it's a bit too late for me since I'm on Tizen now, but if anyone is on null_rom and feeling adventurous there's a chance we could obtain the additional image files we need via this method? I'm not sure that the bits we need are exposed though.

lilstevie, are you able to shine any light on where to start with trying to get what we'd need? I've done some reading and as far as I can see the param.bin file is just a series of images for the bootloader to use. I'm at a loss for which file would have made the modifications to the touch interface firmware. The Tizen firmware contains the following files.

csa.img
csc.img
Ls02-EUR-OPEN-4G-TIZEN.pit
modules.img
param.bin
ramdisk-recovery.img
rootfs.img
sboot.bin
system-data.img
tz.img
user.img
zImage
zImage-recovery
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
Took me many attempts before it didn't get stuck on one part of the flash process or another...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
Once the process got going, how long did it take?

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Never mind, it finally worked. :3
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
Maybe 5-8mins.. I literally had to attempt the Flash a dozen times before it worked. I also disconnected / reconnected heaps of times and restarted odin lots too.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] nxneko:
Interesting. I had NO issues, I had everything plugged in first, and had odin open. Took gear out of cradle put it into download mode then hooked it back in cradle and first one went through, Since kies 2.6 was not even installing....
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tkjeeper:
Easy here too, from null 23 to tizen, first try, Odin 3.09. Used the UK version on a Canadian gear. HUGE battery improvement!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] errol19:
Had no problems flashing Tizen on gear all went well first time,but reverting back to android had same problem as mentioned

earlier no touch screen.

But enjoying Tizen,just have to be paitent and wait for apps to be developed.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Why do people say this is new when its not? The last Android firmware did the same.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
^^ As I mentioned in a previous post, I'm on a Sony device (ignore sig, that's just a build prop edit) so maybe my comparisons to the old set up are compromised by my old set up using a butchered non-touchwiz gear manager apk
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
OH, so you get notifications and its not a Samsung. Well that is new then. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
Yep, and poweramp control thru media controller too :D
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I thought Samsung were a-holes and would block things like that. Thats a real surprise it works but wait for it, as soon as they realise they will most likely block it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] FinityPT:
I there! Been reading all these stuff but still have some doubts:

I m a nexus 5 user, do i have to root my device to pair up de gear (tizen updated) and get the same results has you? Or can i do it just installing GM? Thanks in advance
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
I haven't been asked for superuser access for anything gear related, but I did copy paste an apk called gearmanagerstub.apk into root/system/apps and changed permissions to match other system apps and you'll need su for that.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] FinityPT:
I've seen a loot of tutorials and talking about geramangersrub.apk they never talked about root, so i tried to install it like a normal apk and managed to do it with no problems...

The thing is i want to buy a gear 1 or a gear 2 neo depending on what I will be able to do with a non rooted nexus 5 but no one can give me a clear answer lol. I've read this forums for the past fews days and still can't decide

Maybe buy a neo 2 and try to pair it with gear manager and gmstub without rooting the nexus. If it doesnt workout i can still give it back to the store lol
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] crutzulee:
Holy Crap!! Just had some anxious moments flashing The Canadian Tizen update on my Canadian Gear.. Odin kept failing and then I freaked out when My Gear got very hot and was unable to get out of download mode!

Decided to try one more time and luckily it finally worked!!

I'm pairing it with a Note 2 running DN3 rom with an all S5 UI and Build prop...Will play around tomorrow and hopefully realize the much touted battery gains.. First impressions are that making a hands free call will not be as easy as my previous setup with google now launcher on Null rom (I could just turn my wrist and say "OK Google call home".. Voice texting seems easy without the drain of Tablet Talk but I don't like being forced to change to stock samsung messaging app from Hangouts...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Gear now detected as camera when on charge

I found a new problem with Tizen.

I charge my Galaxy S4 in a dock and its got USB ports (The Samsung Media dock)

I also charge my Gear1 from one of those USB ports.

When I plug the phone in to charge then I plug in the Gear it is now detected as a camera and opens Gallery every time.

Any ideas how to stop it? Either change the Gear1 to not be detected as a camera or change the Galaxy S4 to not open Gallery when the Gear1 plugs in to charge.

Thanks

And to get the battery lasting a really long time this is what I did. I used Odin and flashed the latest firmware. It went to the connect screen. I then went to the recovery menu and did a restore. Now I went and synced like normal and now the battery is a lot better. I dont think it matters how you get the firmware to update but do a restore before syncing.

The first time I flashed it, I used the sleep app and it took 50% battery in 4 hours. Last night after the restore I again used the sleep app and after 4 hours I used 0% battery. it was 100% when I went to sleep and still 100% about 4 hours later. After another few hours of sleep it went down to 91% but its still a huge difference that restore did.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
Tizen's running smooth, and it's rooted. Root's pretty crippled so far, though. Anyone want a partition list to try to get a system dump?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
How did you root it?

I want to change the ringtones, is that available when its rooted? It was on Android.

I can see the filesystem using the Tizen SDK but it all says its read only. Its just Linux if I'm right?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
Thread is right here.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] iBuzman:
[MENTION=241390]NakedFaerie[/MENTION] have you turned on usb DeBugging from the gear info menu?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Yea, Turned it on and turned it off and both still detected as a camera.

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Thanks for that, downloading now. :D
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
As I said, it's VERY crippled. I just did a little directory exploring and I can't even locate where the ringtones are.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I did find them but they were read only. Will have to look again. There are less than on Android. Android had about 15 sounds, this has about 10.

Will have another look when its rooted, hopefully it wont be read only.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
I'll be content to wait for a dev or two to sift through all this information to come up with a workable permanent root with superuser binary that supports directory remounting.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Yea, I think we have to wait for the devs to do their magic.

Till then, here is where Ringtones are.

/opt/share/settings/Ringtones

Most of the other sounds are in their directories there too. /opt/share/settings
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
WRITE PROTECTION IN THAT DIRECTORY IS OFF!!!1!oneone
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
Really? cool. How can I write to it? What app do I use?

ATM I only have the SDK and thats refusing me to do anything but read
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
Set root up, and SDB should be under /path/to/SDK/tools. Use the SDB commands to rewrite the directory like you do with ADB. You can even use the rm -R command for entire directories.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
I just tried with SDB and it says "Permission Denied"

I was hoping there would be a GUI app as not a fan of text based transfers. Thats why I never got into Linux as its mainly text based.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
As it says in the root thread, you have to first type in "sdb root on" in your Terminal.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
Screenshot command:

The path is where it's saved to. This isn't the emulated SD card on the device. I had to convert the attached screenshot (my current Notifications menu) to .jpg before it could upload.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] NakedFaerie:
nice

Damn, I didn't think of that. Now it works. Thanks :D

I have the ringtone there but I guess I have to reboot for it to see it on Settings.

Yep, after the reboot I now have a new ringtone. :)

So everyday Tizen is getting that little bit better and as whoever upgrades is forced to live with it, this root access is a huge step for us to finally start liking it.