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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eeter:
Zarrar,

The key is the Qualcomm chipset which makes these measurements available. Fieldtest only extract and display them. Similar application exist for all other vendors using the QC chipset. HTC uses fieldtest to assess the performance of the UE (handset) and not the network. This why a parmeter such as the cellid is missing

The GSM wizard does have a similar utility ( I don't remmeber the name ) but it dispalys most of the measurment in HEX

:)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jkn13:
I have following Rom Version:

ROM: 1.20.162.3

ROM Date: 06/13/06

Radio: 1.16.00.00

Protocol: 32.53.7018.01W

German Vodafone Image

Fieldtest Display n/a on all Pages

Can you help me. ?

Sorry for my English
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rabmc:
you could have used nokia's version of netmonitor instead of celltrack.. ah well
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jkn13:
Fieldtest on Hermes

Hallo,

I have following Rom Version:

ROM: 1.20.162.3

ROM Date: 06/13/06

Radio: 1.16.00.00

Protocol: 32.53.7018.01W

German Vodafone Image

Fieldtest.exe Display n/a on all Pages

Can you help me. ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eeter:
Next release of fieldtest will include the cell-id
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
Could you please check the same source how to run it on the original TyTN ROM?

Will you post the new version here?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] svdbremt:
Missing parameters in Field test

Hallo

I have tested the software fieldtest_157.exe and it works fine.

I have seen that some fields are missing in 2G & in 3G

In 2G I mis (or I don't find it):

- CI

- MA

- MAIO

- HSN

- TA

- RX access min

- C1 & C2

In 3 G it was very good (only some points missing or not working):

- Detection of 2 carier

- CI

For the rest is the soft very good
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] telstrapaul:
Imate JasJam Australia

Gents sorry in advance of this is the wrong post or I have missed a fix fore the issue I am trying to track down how to set up Engineering mode on this phone, I have tried to run the files mentioned but they do not appear to work can anyone help me out:) :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] so_olala:
I have check the HSDPA CQI no.1.....to 10, but only some of the reading get 31(>0), is it in HSDPA mode already?????not sure?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jkn13:
No Answer to my Question.

Can anyone help me ????

Hallo,

I have following Rom Version:

ROM: 1.20.162.3

ROM Date: 06/13/06

Radio: 1.16.00.00

Protocol: 32.53.7018.01W

German Vodafone Image

Fieldtest.exe Display n/a on all Pages

Can you help me. ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
@jkn13: upgrade to a newer rom.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
No need to upgrade to the newer ROM!

I have no a ROM to upgrade to, but currently I have FieldTest running and showing all those funny values :D A usual disclamer: do it on your own risk blah-blah-blah!

Backup all your data, because you may end up with a hard reset!

Download an Extended ROM that contains a rilgsm.dll, extracted from a ROM version that is known to work with FieldTest. I used Dopod 838 Pro ROM 1.30.707.4 ExtROM. You may try a different one, e.g. because of your language preferences...

Extract a CAB file that contains the RIL update. P_HER_RIL_0911.CAB in my case.

Unpack that CAB file on your PC. You'll need a file with a name like 00rilgsm.001, 333KB or so in size.

Rename that file to rilgsm.dll, and copy it to your phone (not desktop!) \Windows directory. I've done it using Resco Explorer, other tools may be in help as well. You'd be warned before the actual copying several times...

Make a soft reset to be sure that the new DLL is in use.

Well, you may try to install the CAB itself, but it does some compatibility checks, I don't know what else it modifies...

To uninstall,

Go to \Windows directory with a file manager.

Rename the rilgsm.dll e.g. to rigsm1.dll.

Soft reset.

Go to \Windows directory and delete that rilgsm1.dll file. You should see the original rilgsm.dll there.

I did all the steps above by myself and they work. I'd ask somebody more experienced in Wiki editing to append the Field Test article here with instructions above.

Thanks for reading so far ;)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
Thanks Lurker0, wiki updated :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
Thank you, I'm sure I couldn't do it as fast!:cool:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] xpimperx:
Lurker0,

Thanks a lot. I did what you said it and it worked. I have an Imate phone with the Arabic ExtRom, but i used the same file as Lurker0 and now i can see all the fields.

Much appreciated.

Thanks,
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] jkn13:
Thank you, it works fine.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] tr4657:
OK OK.... I successfully did it and test it with Celcom 3G network. But the parameters seems to be known only to the experts AKA engineers. I am a researcher (study leave for PhDP - LOL), where can I get the meaning of those PSC1, ECNO 1... etc?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] pof:
Here's the fieldtest manual by austin_boy:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=286779

Search the wikipedia for the values you don't know the mining :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rfmanganaro:
Fieldtest Doopod 838 Pro

Hy Guys

Congratulations as the forum is really excellent!

I need a Hsdpa Field test Mobile and I was thinkng to buy a doopod 838 pro, is the application working on this PDA? What is the ROM i need for make the application working fine?

Somebody tested the phone? Is the phone performing well (Cpich rscp, EcNo, cell reselection, Power Control.....)is the CQI reporting acceptable?

Thanks lot,

rf manganaro
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
Please learn how to read and search before asking. For instance, read this my post:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=1075364&postcount=79

Doesn't it answer your question? Just think for a minute...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] cr2:
Hmm. what is so special about this specific rilgsm.dll version (a genuine question) ?

pof, i'd like to run such software on the universal too :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] rfmanganaro:
Apparently you don`t understand the question, by the way i allready solved the problem, i bought it and is working, thanks and good luck!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bastos:
I have a HTC Tytn I have tried to load the dll and the field test still not working.

Tried on a Dopod 838pro and it works fine, there is no need to start fieldtest from the windows directory, any directory is fine.

Comparing the 2 models I see Dopod 838pro is HERM 100 and HTC Tynt is HERM 200.

Dont know what is the difference.

Any suggestions how to have field test working?:confused:

HTC Tytn (HERM 200) - field test Not working

ROM version 1.18.255.3

ROM date 05/03/06

Radio Version 1.03.03.10

Protocol Version 32.34.7010.01H

ExtROM version 1.18.255.105

DOPOD 838 pro (HERM 100) - field test working fine

ROM version 1.23.707.4

ROM date 07/21/06

Radio Version 1.06.00.10

Protocol Version 32.37.7010.01H

Thanks!

Joao
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
Did you copy the DLL into \Windows directory over the existing one and then soft reset?

The difference between HERM100 and HERM200 is only buttons layout. I have HERM200 as well. I'd suggest you to read the instruction and follow it carefully.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bastos:
Pof, Arima,

From the posts I understand you guys also have the tytn and have managed to get it working after upgrading to a dopod rom.

Which dopod rom you used.

What is the risk of this upgrade process?

From the upgrade instruction can't manage to find the boot loader version, understand it is only possible with version 1.04 to perform the upgrade.

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
The only suggestion is to read WiKi and numerous threads about ROM upgrades, bootloader versions and Super ID unlocking. All you asked was already answered.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bastos:
Hi Lurker0,

I copied the dll to the windows directory and did a soft reset.

Currently I see on my device (file explorer \windows):

....

ril.dll 12/04/06 50.0K

rilgsm 30/05/06 297K

...

when clicking over the dll I am only allowed to Copy, cannot cut, rename, delete, etc..

Any suggestions?

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bastos:
when I copied the rilgsm dll to my device there was only ril dll so I made no replacement, are u suggesting I delete the existing ril dll?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
The one from Dopod ROM is 333KB, and most likely should be dated by the date of extraction from CAB.

You don't need to copy the old DLL. You need to paste a new one over the old one. Please re-read the instruction and follow it carefully.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] Lurker0:
Which file manager do you use? Does it show files in ROM? It looks like it does not. Check file manager options to show ROM files.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] bastos:
Hi Lurker0,

Yup the problem was with file explorer, I installed the resco explorer, replaced the file, and is working :)

Thanks for your help!

easier solution than upgrading the rom.

Thanks!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] mrobert:
Works great on my Orange SPV 3100.

Now ... how could I retrieve LAC/CID to use them with www.GSM-Tracker.com ?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gregnash:
next release?

G'day.

I've only seen mention of version 157. Is there any news on "Next release"?

thanks
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] gunrum44:
Latest ROM

Hey im wondering what the latest ROM version is for my phone

and if theres e news on fieldtest update. i have 157 working great so far

Ive got a jasjam which is

Model no.: HERM100 pocketPC

Platform: PocketPC

ROM version: 1.31.305.2

ROM date: 09/08/06

Radio: 1.20.31.10

Protocol: 32.52.7020.00H

ExtROM: 1.31.305.103
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] davw:
Still no new version of fieldtest with CI visible ?

Commmgrpro shows the CI on my Tytn but this program freezes my HTC very often...:(
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] samsat:
I assume that having the latest AKU3 loaded on my Tytn I dont need to do the old ROM fiddle to get field test to work.

I dont have a filedtest.exe entry in my windows folder.

I have downloaded fieldtest_157.exe, it will not run on my Tytn.

What do I need to do to get this working.

Thanks for a great website.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ChrisfromAustralia:
WCDMA 850

Hi everyone,

Just wondering what the PSC number is displayed in...Is it HEX or DEC?

I cannot get the correct SC for a base station on my JASJAM.

FTD seems to have all the parameters & all of the screens work fine but i think the values it gives me are wrong.

Can anyone help...I might be doing something wrong here.

The rom im using is the Original Telstra rom that came with the device.

Thanks

Chris.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RandomDude:
Hi Chris,

The PSC is in decimal.

If you like, if you give me a Street Address and Suburb, i can give you the PSC's for the area...

Also make sure your phone is set to 850MHZ and not 2100MHZ
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] kiokoman:
works great with my htc tytn (HERM 200) with rom wm6 black 3.5 , radio 1.41.00.10 and fieldtest 157 on my memory card

I have to softreset my device after using it because the system freeze after some minutes
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] eva_d:
Fieldtest is working great with my LVSW WM6 ROM, but I don't need to reset device after using it. :-o
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ChrisfromAustralia:
Thanks for the info,

But for some reason the sc is not correct...or it simply is not connected to the base that i am near.COuld it be possible that its picking up another base station's sc & not the one im closest to?...i have tried to re cycle my phone & still cannot latch onto the sc...Its not even in the neighbours list.

The phone is definetly connected to the 850 network because im using an 850 Sim.

Chris.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ericdog:
I have just got a WCDMA SIM and am using a jasjam with fieldtest 157..

Would it be difficult to get the PSC's for the southern highlands NSW area ? Say, Wollongong, Bowral, Goulburn and surrounding areas ??

Im also keen to see if a new version of fieldtest is coming out as I read in this thread... It would also be good to be able to customise what parameters you see on one fieldtest "screen"....

I was used to using "celltrack" on my old symbian phone, and I liked how it loooked.. FT has much much more info.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RandomDude:
Keep an eye on this thread, i'll see what I can do
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ericdog:
Thanks, RD, much appreciated.

I have worked out a couple already just from where I have been going, and my knowledge of the sites about.

65 is near me, so I know that one ! (that'll tell you near to where I am)

227 seems to be Mt Gib at bowral

Although, I was doing some testing (as telstra have given me 10 days in a logged agreement, to see if I am happy with the nextCDMA system, and if not, I can go back to the old CDMA) and in this test, I was in a bad area (deliberately) just to test the nextCDMA against the old CDMA, and I was on PSC 49, which I think is nowhere near where I was..

I'm finding that the nextCDMA is pretty close in performance to the old CDMA.

A list would be real handy. If you would rather email it, I can give you my email address..

Whenever you have the time..

Regards,

Eric TLD.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RandomDude:
I had a look at the amount of sites telstra has around those areas... and its huge!

We're talking about 50+ sites with 3 scambling codes per site (3 sectors) so it would help if you could give me particular locations in the same area!

Its just that i need to check manually :P
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ericdog:
Oh, ok, I thought you might have just had the list in a file or something to be able to get the info. I know that on the old CDMA, quite a few sites around here had 3 sectors..

It might be easier if I just found the PSC numbers as I run around and let you know, then you could check the sites for me ??

If so, 49, 289 and 308 are a couple so far that I havent worked out. I keep a "notes" file in the jasjam to keep a log of them as I move about.

Also, are the numbers re-used in other areas (a large distance away), or is every site/sector unique ?

Thanks again,

Eric TLD.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RandomDude:
No problem,

i'm having problems extracting the SC from the database I use so i'm checking them manually.

I noticed you live in Bowral, and i can tell you what codes are nearby (telstra nextg):

Mt Gibraltar: (you'd already confirmed this)

227 (Omni-directional)

Moss Vale:

251 (Omni)

BERRIMA HURDLE RIDGE:

235 (omni)

Happy hunting!

Oh and yes the numbers are re-used throughout Australia. I'm not 100% sure but I think they go up to 500 as the biggest number.

If you give me a location, or even GPS coords of where you are, then i can track it down easier.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ericdog:
RandomDude is the cool dude !

Hi RandomDude, you're a champion. Thanks for taking the time to help me with this info, much appreciated (would you like beer).

found 251 easily

267 seems to be between moss vale and the hume hwy ? Not sure of sectors, maybe 2

275 is around sutton forest. I wild be interested to know where.

283 should be in there somewhere...

291 seems to be freestone

299 seems to be the north sector of the site that is just south of marulan

307 seems to be the south sector of 299

13 I think is Mt Grey (goulburn)

277, I have no idea - it came up when I was at a comms site near goulburn. Would like to know this one.

65 is the transgrid site near Robertson. I think it is a 3 sector site (it was on CDMA).. Could you confirm this, and the PSC's.

308, no idea, would like to know.

153 seems to be red rocks near cambewarra mtn (nowra). Does it have other sectors ?

There seems to be a difference of 8 between adjoining PSC's (sometimes).

I'd like the PSC's for these sites if its not too much trouble:

Knights Hill.

Hilltop.

Anything near mittagong.

Razorback near picton.

Albion park.

Kiama.

Dapto.

Mt Keira.

Berkeley ridge.

Wollongong.

Anything near bundanoon.

I wont over-do your generosity. Its just so great to find someone that can get the info. Ultimately, it will lead me to be able to get a good grip on the nextCDMA system in our area, and maybe help spot coverage problems.

On another note, and I'm not sure if eeter is still about here, but there is a little change that I would really love to get made to fieldtest. It would be good to be able to have a little file that goes with the fieldtest executable wher we could put in the PSC numeric code, then the site name and the fieldtest program could scan this file and match the PSC (and other identifying stats) to a site name and display it on the WCDMA group page, in the 3 lines under where servingPSC_1, servingPSC_2 and servingPSC_3 are shown respectively. It would save looking at a written list all the time, and, with enough of us around, we could get the PSC's etc for a large area without having to be too annoying :)

I wonder if this is a difficult change ? I wonder what FT is written in (vb.net ?) Theres a few good parameters that I would like to be able to bring up on one custom-like group page. If I could get the info on how to poll the parameters from the modem/RF chips using vb.net, I would have a play myself. Even a scrolling graph of the servingAGC and a decent ECNO value.

I'm probably getting carried away now. I really love using fieldtest, as it gives you good insight into the operation of your phone.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RandomDude:
Ok Eric, give me a few days and i'll do what I can :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RandomDude:
Sorry in advance for the crudeness of this post but i've had a hard day and im tired :P

Below is the name of the site were possible - SectorNum:PSC

1 sector is omni only

267 seems to be between moss vale and the hume hwy ? Not sure of sectors, maybe 2

275 is around sutton forest. I wild be interested to know where.

(SUTTON FORREST - 1:259, 2:275, 3:267 - 200km cell)

283 should be in there somewhere...

(BUNDANOON - 1:283)

291 seems to be freestone

(1:291 - 200km cell)

299 seems to be the north sector of the site that is just south of marulan

307 seems to be the south sector of 299

(1:299, 2:307)

13 I think is Mt Grey (goulburn)

(1:13)

277, I have no idea - it came up when I was at a comms site near goulburn. Would like to know this one.

(Goulburn TE 1:277)

65 is the transgrid site near Robertson. I think it is a 3 sector site (it was on CDMA).. Could you confirm this, and the PSC's.

(ROBERTSON 1:49, 2:57, 3:65)

308, no idea, would like to know.

153 seems to be red rocks near cambewarra mtn (nowra). Does it have other sectors ?

(RED ROCKS 1:137, 2:145, 3:153)

Knights Hill. (1:73)

Hilltop. (Jindabyne 1:101)

Anything near mittagong.(Mt Gibralta 1:227, Braemar 1:123)

Razorback near picton.( PICTON VAULT HILL 1:36, RAZORBACK 1:389, 2:405, 3:397)

Albion park. (1:25, 2:33, 3:41 - OAK FLATS Mineral Road 1:203, 2:211, 3:219 - Signal Hill 1:1, 2:9, 3:17 )

Kiama. (Kiama 1:81)

Dapto. (Dapto 1:99, 2:107, 3:115 - Mt Brown 1:131, 2:139)

Mt Keira. (1:164)

Berkeley ridge. (berkeley tops 1:51, 2:59, 3:67)

Wollongong.

(Wollongong 1:196, 2:204, 3:212 - mount st thomas 1:268, 2:276, 3:284 - Nareena Hills 1:220, 2:228, 3:236 - Wollong Hospital 1:28, 2:18, 3:23)

Anything near bundanoon. (bundanoon 1:283)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] ericdog:
Hi Randomdude,

Your a champion :) !! Thanks for looking the info up. Sorry you had a bad day the other day. Work can get to be a real drain on the whole system !

I hope my requests haven't been too much of a pain in the bum !

I dont want to over-do my welcome from you, but if I found a couple of others (the PSC's), would it be ok for you to look them up ? Thanks to you, I now have most of the ones around my area, there just might be an odd one that crops up here and there (like 11, when I was overlooking wollongong the other day, and 308 when I was in kangaloon)...

Anyway, thanks very much for your help so far, its much appreciated.

Eric TLD.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] RandomDude:
All good mate,

sorry but i cant find 11 or 308 in those areas... my records might be out of date...

ill keep looking and let you know if i find them
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam Software Upgradin] lax2tlv:
[ http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=316201 ]

i KNOW THIS IS LONG BUT IT IS INTERESTING! JUST GET THROUGH IT!

ON 6 July 2007 I posted:

[I was driving home from work on Vanowen St from North Hollywood, an area which has had 3G coverage for quite a while, while watching some free MobiTV in the LA traffic. My eyes widened with excitement when the phone (running BLACK MAGIC LE) showed full HSDPA reception as a crossed Lindley Ave, then Reseda, then Tampa, and all the way to my place on Winnetka where the HSDPA was still on but at 2-3 bars of reception. HOWEVER, to my great dismay, as soon as I ended the data call, the same ol' "E" was right back up there... forcing WCDMA + going back to where I was apparently getting full 3G reception failed to pick up UMTS... Now, given what little knowledge I have + some educated guessing, I suspect one of the following scenarios as being the culprit of this disgusting event:

A. There could have simply been a glitch in the phone, where it showed the H and 3G symbols instead of the E; HOWEVER, the streaming video on MobiTV was significantly better than anything i've seen on EDGE. Maybe some caching may be responsible for this?

B. Newly activated UMTS towers were able to register my phone when it attempted to continue an existing HSDPA data call, but have yet to be instructed to register idle phones looking for signals.]

Today, after repeating the same process while using speed tests to verify HSDPA speeds, I contacted AT&T and again, luckily, got to someone who knew his sht. He went ahead and listed some UMTS tower locations in my area and along my route home from work (Vanowen St) but stated that the towers were set for PUBLIC activation on 2 August 2007. So theres it is, the official launch date for 3G accross the whole SFV is 8/2/07. NOW, as for me being able to connect to these "unactivated towers": the tech agreed with my theory that while the towers fail to register my phone from a reset and kick it off upon data disconnection, they ARE OBVIOUSLY ACTIVE because I am able to connect to them, but only when entering their range while on an ACTIVE HSDPA connection. So here are my questions for the COOKS/MODS/PROS:

1. Are you aware of what method these towers may be using to screen phones for "testing purposes" (IMEI maybe?)?

2. Is there any way to trick the tower into registering my phone without having to drive to an "active" 3G zone and back?

ANY FEEDBACK WILL REALLY BE APPRECIATED!!!

I would love to know if there is anything I could do with the Field Test program that could help you help me figure this out!!!! THANK YOU