yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Galadriel7966:
Sweet thanks bbell! Works!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
I forgot it. Ups. Will upload to hub for tomorrow! New navs keys also:D:thumbup:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
Is there any way to get stock lollipop status bar

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Yes. Dirty flash and skip Modpack. Then u get stock all. :thumbup:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
Really I get the sense one when I did that I wanted the stock gpe status bar

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Oh. Thats different. Can be done. Will tell to [MENTION=4846158]Imotep95[/MENTION] if he has time. But first have to check what is inside gpe systemUI. Dont have a clue :p
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
Okay cool. Thanks

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Been running v40 for a full day and it has been really sweet. Battery life is pretty amazing :)

I don't know if others have encountered this issue, but I realized that my network data speeds are slower with v40, and my cell phone reception coverage is also lower. When I was using v36, they were at their normal levels.

I compared v40 with my wife's stock phone in the same location, and she has higher speeds and better reception on the same network. Wonder if it's something to do with v40?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
To get ride of 2g persistent in status bar, i ve modified Sku and region.

We can try to rever it back and see if better.

Will need default.xml placed in

System/customize /ACC

copy with root explorer, paste to sdcard, then upload to dropbox for example, i ll modified to stock, then paste here to test:D:thumbup:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
2g isn't the issue, i'm not getting 2g. and the 2g icon is not in the status bar. If anything, it's constantly at 4G and not LTE getting LTE speeds even though I live in an area that gets strong LTE. I'll post the default.xml in a second for you!

---------- Post added at 10:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:04 PM ----------

Here's the default.xml file :D

https://app.box.com/s/91h4bvrkwk3ybmaiwe4akymccrt821c7
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Updated SDHub with new Nav keys Mods!

Soon more stuff.

Added Smaug Bootanimation and Sound for tmo SD roms and All Gsm SD roms.

Cheers
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] crayola555:
This is probably just me, I don't get lte on this rom (just started trying this yesterday) and getting only hspa. Anyone with lte on tmobile post their apn settings? Thanks.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Now will add a fix! Give me ten minutes :thumbup:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] crayola555:
Oh, thats more awesome then :)

Thank you
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
This is Only For those who Did Skip Harman Kardon Mod in Aroma

For Those Who Selected Harman Kardon Mod, will need System/customize/ACC/defaul.xml to make a fix!

Cheers

Edited.

Zip is broken
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] crayola555:
Sorry for another noob question. How would i go about to install that, I tried installing zip in recovery but it just freezes. Sorry last question i promise!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Re download, maybe corrupted
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Can also confirm that installation hangs and it doesn't install correctly.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Ok, will pull off the link fix, then re do it! Sorry for that
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
If you want to help us promoting our work.. Feel free to copy and paste these code to your Signature! Thanks in advance. :)

https://www.dropbox.com/s/nltvt9778jus4l1/sd signs.txt?dl=0
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] crayola555:
Yep, I got that down, well some........haha

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[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Thank you very much Sir!!! :)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sdwyz74:
great Work Sick Rom but i really cant get the hot spot working not sure if im doing something wrong or ??? Please Advise thanks
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Which version? In v 40 is working
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Will there be a fixed zip for the tmobile LTE reception bug?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Once I wake up will post :thumbup:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
thanks, you're awesome!!!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Welcome!!! :thumbup::D
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sdwyz74:
Your newest version but I did not upgrade firmware I still have kit Kat firmware but the Rom is running fine ? Thanks please advise
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Really dont know. Can be firmware related or not.

Why didn't update firmware to Lollipop?

Which is your model m8?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Re Fix zip tmo SD for Non Harman Kardon

https://www.dropbox.com/s/utncnw0whp2ekb8/Tmobile Signal Fix For NO Harman Kardon.zip?dl=0
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
will try now and report on this!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Dont trust in zip, if doesn't work.. Will post stand alone file and explain how to add it using root explorer
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Must be issue with zip, it's still hanging and not flashing through.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Yeah. Dont why. Uploading file only, give a sec
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Galadriel7966:
Will there be tmo SD hk fix?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Here

https://www.dropbox.com/s/33l12k9avfsbszx/default.xml?dl=0

Download to Sdcard

Paste and replace into...

System/customize /ACC

Set permissions rw r r, reboot
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
I'll wait for the hk fix. Poweramp will do for now. I noticed my long press home functionality is broken. Is there an option I messed up somewhere?? :confused:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Try to reflash modpack v 12,better than flashing the whole rom.

Always delete AROMA folder in system/app before going to recovery to flash.

In modpack, if u dont select a mod, will be stock. So if u have center clock and u want to keep it, must select in modpack v 12
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Replaced the file and it looks like LTE is back! Thanks! :good:

After replacing the file, it seems like the wifi and data icon bug is back. Even when wifi is connected, the status bar has the LTE icon (whereas before replacing the file, when wifi was connected, there was no data icon)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
It's the fire home long press to Google or sd fix
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Google is missing, i understood now. Will post a possible fix in secs. Let me find the file
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Download and install

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.googlequicksearchbox

I tested, now if u hold Home, will pop up gnow:D
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
Worked like a charm. Now to find my HTC tv apk
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] firedragon64:
Tetherguard

Since the update from v35 I cannot remove tetherguard and use the dun APN type to fix tether restrictions. Please help me identify the issue, if I remove or freeze tetherguard like I did in the past, then hotspot fails to turn on. Anyone know a fix on the new build?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] pingels:
I'm on the Tmo HK v40 and here's a few issues I've seen: (maybe there have been fixes for these--I don't know--but I didn't see anything after searching through the thread)

My Google Contacts don't all sync. I see an error message saying "Sync is currently experiencing problems. It will be back shortly."

(wifi hotspot works through pdanet--didn't on v37--haven't tried through any other program)

Thanks!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Galadriel7966:
Very sweet Rom..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Galadriel7966:
Also Maurydes pure ;)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
How did you change your icons in the status bar. Been trying to get stock lollipop

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Its theme, SD theme thread is link to sdhub in mods section
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
What is it call if you don't mind me asking
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Tael or something like that, ask here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53098482
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sdwyz74:
I did not want to loose root and or s-off
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Sure. I know :):thumbup:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] crayola555:
Where do you live? I live in massachusetts area which is supposed to have good LTE coverage, but I never got that before. I think it's because of my m8 being at&t branded (I unlocked it and run it on tmobile sim). So I'm trying to flash this t-mobile rom to see but no good, still only get up to 4g :(
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
I live in southern california. it might have to do with it being an at&t phone on a tmobile network.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] crayola555:
Does that matter though, the ATT m8 has all the bands and signals tmobile needs for LTE. Or is there any other factors involved?

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[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] firedragon64:
TetherGuard Issues

OP, would you mind looking at your code and see what changed in v40 that made TetherGuard key to tethering working? This application prevents me from disabling the check that T-Mobile does for tethering on the account, but also installs a hidden APN "pcweb.t-mobile.com" to send mobile hotspot traffic through. As a student I use my T-Mobile connection for everything, so what I do to allow this without any restrictions is I add an apn separate from the locked one with all the same settings for fast.t-mobile.com, except, that I add ",dun" to the end of the APN type string. Then I use Titanium Backup to freeze the tetherguard app. This successfully bypasses the tracking system they use; however, your most recent version of the rom (v40) cannot activate tethering when the tetherguard app is frozen.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
I will asap!

Tmo Sense 7 coming Soon!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
I'm also looking into tethering without being tracked by tmobile, can you tell me how you were able to accomplish this? Did you use an app? What do you mean by adding ",dun" to the end of the APN string? Any help would be appreciated :)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] glycopoo:
Is there any way to add navigation cursor arrows for when a keyboard is active? I think it would be pretty difficult to add that, but it's the thing I've been wanting ever since switching from my N5.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Flash Laypota modpack v 12. Its also integrated in the aroma of this rom
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
A word of caution about flashing lyapota modback v12 after install this rom - flashing that modpack will break bluetooth on this rom. I tried it once, and bluetooth would not enable and it would crash. Specifically, a pop up will constantly say "Bluetooth share has stopped"

Other users have experienced this problem as well with this rom and modpack 12.

i.e .http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58562870&postcount=576

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=58564240&postcount=592

They've reported over at lyapota's thread. Just wanted to give you a headsup! Make sure you back up :)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] LoneWolf:
On the latest version v40 i cant send picture messages at all reverted to v36
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
No problems here receiving and sending pictures via mms. Just tested it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] LoneWolf:
Over wifi? thats where i have my issue ive flashed and reflashed to no avail
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Ahh. Good catch, I just tried sending via wifi call and picture messages don't go through for me either.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] *mj13*:
Textra app has a function to use data on tmo network to send and receive since it won't allow mms over wifi.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] firedragon64:
How to Enable Unlimited Tethering

Sure I'm happy to help you. So first thing is first, go into your settings > mobile data> then access point names. In there open the T-Mobile US access point name and copy down everything that's in there. Once you have it all written down, go back and press menu > new apn. Add all the details from the previous one (except a different name). Then when you are entering APN Type, use "default,fota,mms,hipri,supl,dun". Titanium Backup is useful for this next step if you know how to freeze an app, otherwise you can go to settings > apps, goto the all tab, then find Tetherguard, press it and press disable. If it works like it's supposed to (as it does on the v37 and below version of this ROM) then it will turn on and give you unlimited tethering. However, if it doesn't work like it's supposed to (what I"m asking the OP to look into) then it will freeze the mobile hotspot before turning on. I've reverted to the v35 of this rom, if you want my zip of it, you can PM me and I'll dropbox it for you. Also, T-Mobile as well as other carriers are able to determine if your data usage is related to tethering if you use abnormal amounts of it. Keep your data usage under 200gb and you should be good.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Thanks! So for the "APN" box, I would put "default,fota,mms,hipri,supl,dun" instead of "fast.t-mobile.com"?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
SkyDragon M8 Running Sense 7 - Preview 6-march-2015

[YOUTUBE]Q-KxUsWIF7A[/YOUTUBE]
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
Can't wait for sense 7 looks great

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] gotnoypi:
Infinifolders

Is it possible to have this in the lollipop version?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] *mj13*:
This will be lollipop version sense 7.. :)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Sure, no need for new firmware, all Lollipop firmwares will be fine!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] gotnoypi:
Sounds awesome! You guys rock!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
SkyDragon M8 v 41.0 WWE Sense 7 Video Review

60fps

[YOUTUBE]GovHCrwn4e4[/YOUTUBE]

Enjoy!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
When will you post for T-Mobile

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Don't know yet.

Still finishing my Euro rom. Then others bases for sure. So no ETA yet.

But will be tmo sense 7 for sure
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
Okay cool. If you need a test let me know

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
I will. Sure.

Or maybe post without telling it no one.

:p
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
awesome!! thanks for all the hard work you're putting it - it's definitely appreciated
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
SkyDragon M8 v 1 Sense 7 beta

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95916177934539196

Only dirty flash if u already flashed my sense 7 port gsm wwe.

New files, will be bugs, so full wipe.

Soon, of all good, will update op. Has the same work as WWE
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
awesome! will try flashing now. Thanks!!!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
everything running smooth so far! although there was an option for gpe dialer, i still had the standard sense dialer. The gpe dialer didn't flash correctly.

Also, I'm assuming that we should NOT flash lyapota's modpack 12 with this
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] *mj13*:
If it doesn't show after reboot then dirty Flash over using same options. That worked for me a few roms back..

Some say the mod works some say it breaks things.. be careful.. sense 7 thread now open..follow discussion there :)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
Can I dirty flash on v40. Also does it have Wi-Fi calling

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
yup has wifi calling, and confirmed working!

---------- Post added at 05:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:02 PM ----------

I haven't tried dirty flashing over v40, but since it's sense 7, i would highly recommend a full wipe.

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Found a potential bug, Dolby Audio has an error when I boot up. When I look at settings, only the "theater" settings apply, but not the internal.

Everything feeling smooth and great otherwise! Will report if i notice other things :good:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Jarocks:
Are you using the T-Mobile version of the ROM? I am not having any sound on WiFi calls, I did a completely clean install. I enabled the Harmon Kardon mod in the Aroma installer.

I am also getting s force close on the Dolby Audio on boot up. I am not sure if this has anything to do with the WiFi calling sound issues.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
Like the rom runs smooth. The gpe dialer doesn't flash when I tired it bit other then that haven't had any problems. Great rom as always

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Yes, using T-mobile version. I tested a call via wifi calling and it worked (I usually use network to call instead of wifi)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Jarocks:
I flashed the HK Mod then reflashed the ROM, seems to have fixed no sound issue when making wifi calls.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] iquit040:
Sooo...

I posted in the skydragon main thread in the m8 android section. I am running it on a verizon m8 that i use on m8. Everything works great actually... lte apps call text even wifi calling. But no matter what settings i change i cannot download an mms message. i tried every different mode in the *#*#4636#*#* menu and the network settings... but get generic network error when trying to download it. I can send them fine too... Any ideas? I can't get the verizon version of the rom to work with my sim card... so that is not a valid option before someone wants to let me know i am using the wrong version. Any ideas on how to resolve this? I tried using hangouts instead too... so it has to be a settings somewhere in the phone

Update:

I got frustrated and did a complete wipe manually (data/system etc..) then did a clean install. now everything is working including sending and receiving without having issues and my data isn't dropping off either. So far this is the best solution i have come across for using an VZW m8 on Tmobile... thank you guys for all the hardwork you put into the roms you put out... Now i am just waiting for a LP update to come out for my One Max :P
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
just flashed it all clean. Other than to keyboard this is amazing

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[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Android6190:
I have the same problem with the keyboard

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
I haven't tried the Wi-Fi calling but everything else is working more then fine. Though I miss the flashlight in quick menu.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
You can get the flashlight in quick menu back if you install xposed, and download the xtended settings app.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=richmondouk.xtended.settings
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
Never installed xposed . Trying to use the installer but says I have to manual it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
it's simple, you flash it via custom recovery. And then you install the xposed app. Let me know if you have questions on how you do it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
Just have to figure out where the installer hid the file......
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] *mj13*:
It should be on your internal sd download folder..its a .zip file..after flashing that in recovery and rebooting then go to same folder with your root explorer and find the .apk and install that..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jongcruz:
Any news ????

Thanks
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Like in seven Hours for sure. Family day today :D

Enviado desde mi HTC One_M8 usando Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jongcruz:
Same here man. Ha ha ha thanks!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] drksilenc:
I am
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] biglos31:
My phone when I make a call has a big delay after pressing send and ending a call anyone experiencing this?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jongcruz:
Bueno, parece que hoy tampoco habrá versión 3......ja ja ja ya veremos.....
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jongcruz:
Hi.....do you recommend to install this version or wait for 3.0?

Thanks again!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] dragonesdenano:
Better flash v 2.0 and if u want give feedback.. So far i will update kernel and few more

Enviado desde mi HTC One_M8 usando Tapatalk 2
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jongcruz:
Thanks for answering..... Those updates can be installed in the future over 2.0? Any fix for the Bluetooth issue of being unable to change music tracks?

Once again, thanks.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] chattguy:
Hey man, I'm having an issue. I installed, got all my apps going and it all seemed to be working well. Then I got the Xposed things going, rebooted and now it keeps rebooting. Not sure what's going on here. Any ideas?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] rayraycarter4:
Any fix for mms over WiFi
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] redalertlb:
I didnt even notice that you couldn't do that until I saw your post. kind of sucks now that I'm in the situation that I need it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fredderf81:
i can send / receive mms while on wifi calling mode, but can not make a call...well, i can make a call but can not hear. my voice goes through but nothing comes my way.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] rayraycarter4:
Maybe it's just hangouts then
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] drksilenc:
Are you on fios by chance? if so you need to make sure sip is open on your router
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] rayraycarter4:
Fios?

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Fios?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] drksilenc:
verizon fios the internet service.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] compta5:
Yes my Ford sync doesn't change the track when I push the button on the steering wheel.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] pixel-painter:
I know with Pandora, there is an Xposed patch that will fix this. I was using it on my ford escape with my N4.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] rayraycarter4:
No I have Time Warner
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] reyradi:
Help with download

is there another link i always get broken download of the only link that its available
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
Didn't find that at all on phone I'll try finding the thread on xda?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] *mj13*:
You mean where to find the files to download? Go here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3034811

[OFFICIAL] Xposed for Lollipop
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] reyradi:
Clean instalation without problems nice Job fast and clean aroma is really awesome thanks to dev.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
Epic and amazing
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] xdaninja:
i have skydragon v3 installed and i have a question: is there anything in this rom that would automatically restore pictures i delete?

at first i thought it was being synced to a cloud somewhere. i would notice pictures i deleted from the gallery be restored. i do not have dropbox or onedrive, and i'm not using google+. i also checked everywhere i could think of to make sure there was no kind of sync/backup settings on. i was getting pretty paranoid about things getting synced in the background without me knowing.

after using titanium backup to freeze everything with the name sync, backup, media, photo, cloud, and google+ in it, i noticed it was still happening after reboot.

so, as an experiment, i turned on airplane mode, deleted a bunch of pictures from the gallery, and rebooted (with everything i previously mentioned still frozen in TB), and then rebooted

sure enough, all of the pictures i had deleted were restored.

what am i missing? is it something in this rom? or htc/sense? google? i've never experienced this behavior on any other android phone

ty for any help/suggestions
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] griever721:
Is there a specific 3.1 version for tmo users or can we just flash the 3.1 version off of the other main thread?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] glycopoo:
I'm on 3.1 from the other post. It's pretty stable, but not rock-solid. Still very good though. I'm using on my daily driver. Still waiting on a TMOUS version to come out, missing wifi-calling.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Mercys Fallen:
Same ad the fellow above. Hands up with keyboard functions now and again. Battery is nice. Hopefully WiFi calling comes back and better than ever. :D
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] frankinstyn:
Love this rom...using the Sense 7 version with seemingly no issues.

I cannot seem to enable the t-mobile tethering hack so I can use all the data I pay for. I've tried all the methods mentioned. Any ideas or suggestions?