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[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
i found the bastard the kindle uses legacy for sdcard partition and my scripts were trying to save to partition 0. its being tested soon:)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
So, since this is the only "alive" ROM, what should I do, starting from scratch, to get this ROM on my device and fully optimized with maximum ram and no SODs? I am on AICP on Otter X right now. I don't understand what to flash and what to change in trickster, so could someone please give me step by step instructions?:confused::confused:
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
[MENTION=3816775]koop1955[/MENTION] pm sent :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
ok i noticed that ok google is trying to use the mic. you must deactivate it in google settings. or there will be constant processors running until it deepsleeps.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
[MENTION=4551511]Vlasp[/MENTION]

dl rom 8.4 from op and mini gapps 8 from slimroms.net.

make a flashable.zip with all your apps (use zipme app from the playstore, but don't save app data)

reboot recovery

wipe

factory reset then goto

advanced/wipe and wipe system, and both caches.

then flash rom and gapps

reboot (wait for system to boot fully)

then reboot recovery and flash your apps.zip and reboot again.

if wifi doesn't connect 1st time just reboot and it will be ok.

go to developer/settings and swapp 3x animations settings to .25 instead of ,75

goto google settings in app draw and turn off "ok google"

use trickster mod app to set default governor to smartassV2 (dont forget to check the kernel "set at boot" option.

i don't overclock as it introduces a little stuttering on mine.

after i get everything sorted i will rewrite the op install instructions and clean up op. im just busy trying to sort something else at the minute:)

enjoy steve
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Testing Today

I did a clean install of 8.4 and GAPPs for testing purposes. More about that in a bit. Some things:

1) For [MENTION=441050]LXT[/MENTION]husdan, I used Google to restore apps, which I personally don't usually do. It restored all apps, including premium ones. It was a slow process for me and I noticed that Google installed the free apps first and then the premium ones. Maybe the issue that you had was timing? Also were you using the 8.x version of Slim GAPPs? If that isn't applicable, maybe it was Google (or a glitch in the Matrix...)Then see note below about connection issues-

2) During setup, Kindle failed to connect to Wifi at first. Clicked "Back" and tried again and it worked. (No need to reflash ROM, don't remember who did that.) But after completing boot, I had to select my Wifi network again and then it stayed connected and began downloading my apps. Frankly, I find it faster (although it takes a bit more effort) to download apps via the Play store, than to let Google do it for me, but to each their own. Or use TB or Zipme to backup and then restore.

3) For [MENTION=4551511]Vlasp[/MENTION], you want to click on the 3 bars next to the Android in the upper left, chose General, scroll down to CPU Governor Contol and select "smartassV2" as your governor. Then be sure to click on the Check symbol on the top. Otherwise it won't take. Also got to Settings (regular Setting, you are finished with Trickster for right now) and Developer options. Scroll down and you will see three animation scales settings. Set them all to .25, it will make things faster.

4) For lovejoy777, I will play with the script names and PM you back.

5) Finally, I found 8.1+ noticeably faster. Linaro vs GCC maybe? I'll will test some stuff today, but revert back for my daily ROM.

I'll be on and off during the day.....don't you hate it when life gets in the way? :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Neoistheone2000:
Sorry for being so behind, I have been feeling like utter crap here lately, good news is I am starting to feel better so anyways, here is the file i made with ZipME

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7YKmojlJL6WcEdUNGowUGpHYjA/view?usp=sharing

Let me know if it works. :D

Edit 1: I just noticed I named it Chrome 26 vs 36, it's build 36, I'll fix the file name here soonish.

Edit 2: OK, file name is correct :)

Edit 3: let me know if you need anything tested [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
thanks mate, good little app isn't it:).
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
Wait why can't I keep app data with zipme? should I use titanium Backup for that????:confused: [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION]
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hedied4me:
What's the diference between using zipme and something like titanium backup; besides more steps for TB?

Sent from my cdma Virgin Mobile HTC Desire 601 zara_cl
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
Restoring in TB is hard and you have to be on your kindle to allow the installs, Zipme flashes them to the data app so you don't need to allow the apps to install.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hedied4me:
Good point I suppose. But for someone like me who has never made a zip before but has used TB for several years (since my first android), Ill probably stick with TB. Im sure zipme is really easy to use. Thanks for the reply though.

Sent from my cdma Virgin Mobile HTC Desire 601 zara_cl
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
If you restore system app data expect trouble on your 1st time on the ROM, I recommend clean wipe.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
IMVHO if the developer recommends a factory reset and clean wipe to install the ROM I just 're-download and 're-set up all of my apps. It may take awhile but in the end I've never run into problems. I've seen to many times users running into problems with apps or the ROM and its usually attributed to restoring apps from a previous version. Most of the time it's because of new commits or a change in the base of the ROM and previous app data doesn't play well..
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
ZipMe is stalling at Signing, so I'll just use Titanium Backup to backup App and Data. Will that work, all I need to backup are games and Google Now Launcher...
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
Some thoughts on 8.4:

It works great so far. I think the only thing that has FCd was Google Exchange Services which I don't even know what it's used for and it hasn't affected the operation of anything.

ART works great.

It's more fluid and responsive than 8.1. Not as fluid and responsive as say CM9 or CM10, but a definite improvement. I, and probably everyone else, would be interested to see how well a Linaro build would perform. I've tried overclocking and have not experienced any issues. There might be an occasional stutter, there might not be. There's an occasional stutter or slow response for most things at one point or another. Overall it's snappier being overclocked.

Battery seems good.

I've been using pa_gapps-modular-pico-4.4.4-20141011 and Trebuchet from a recent CM11 release.

Great work. Thank you.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hedied4me:
Works great for games; not sure about google now launcher. Fyi, I think you can only backup/restore one app at a time unless you have paid version of TB (and then as many as possible). I bought it a few years ago so I could be slightly wrong.

Sent from my cdma Virgin Mobile HTC Desire 601 zara_cl
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Ixthusdan:
The source of my issue was networking. With my initial install, networking was spotty or not at all. Apparently, it failed when populating my user information from the store, borking the install. I installed 3 times, finally doing networking ( and the store) after a reboot. The second time I installed, I had to dirty flash the ROM again to get networking to show up, as it would not turn on. At any rate, kindle is running 8.4 now.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] gtFlue:
Amazing what a 'Clean' install will do for this ROM. :) Re-wiped and installed fresh last night. All lag is gone! Still more testing playing to be done, but so far it's more responsive than the last install I had.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] BobJayJr:
I flashed 8.4 with no problems wifi or otherwise. Another great job Steve.

However, and at the risk of going off thread, I was unable to flash the "app.zip" file containing all of the apps successfully. I was able to successfully flash app.zip files containing a small number of apps but not one containing all of the apps on the KF. Is there a limit to the number of files that can be zipped in an app.zip file or did I miss something in the documentation ?

Also, initially the I/O controls for read ahead buffer and scheduler were reset in Trickster Mod. Is there any benefit in continuing to reset these parameters?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
For what it's worth, with 8.4 the Netflix app is unable to connect to Netflix's servers. I've tried deleting data, uninstalling/reinstalling, copying the data folder from my phone, and disabling ad blocking. It eventually pops up a message saying it can't contact Netflix service. If left at that point long enough the app will close automatically (or is it crash).
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Neoistheone2000:
Having to kill one of the Google services that controls "wearable" services, after it's stopped things are super responsive.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Would you mind sharing which specific APK you removed? And did you use Slimsizer to remove it?

I have also found that removing APKs that I don't use really helps performance.

Thanks.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
if you guys can figute out which ones are safe to remove i will remove in the next build. also [MENTION=3816775]koop1955[/MENTION] i know the issue with the installer, v0.03 beta coming to you soon:)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
Is there a way to view RAM on the Recents? It so, could you make it possible because I have Gravitybox KK on this ROM and since the recent menu is not stock, the RAM in Recents is not working. I want to be able to view RAM as this is a very light ROM.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Putting together that list of APKs was where I was heading, I'll see what I can come up.

There may be some delay ("work" is a 4-letter word!) but I will test today.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lllukas:
This is my list [MENTION=3816775]koop1955[/MENTION]

But like i said above, there are much more apks safe to removed ;)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Thanks, my friend. I had gone back to your original post and pulled this list, but thank you!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
What is Google Ears apk and would it be safe to also remove?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] KCJunkman:
Google Ears was an app that Google used when there was a song playing and you wanted to know the name of it. I would assume that it is safe to delete.

KCJunkman
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
List of APKs For Removal

The community should check and comment if I was too aggressive or not aggressive enough.

Here are the ones that should be safe to remove for most people (although, Steve, I would create a zip file with them that users could download if the needed something):

Bluetooth.apk

Camera.apk

Cell

Email.apk

Exchange2.apk

Music.apk

Phasebeam.apk

Phototable.apk

Picotts.ap

Printspooler.apk

Soundrecorder.apk

Telephonyprovider.apk

WAPPushManager

Optional:

LiveWallpapersPicker.apk

VisualizationWallpapers.apk

And this is a pretty good resource on what is and isn't safe to remove:

http://forums.androidcentral.com/op...e-apks-their-purpose-safe-not-remove-big.html
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Italico:
Is WAPPushManager related to WhatsApp? Because I use that app every day!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
No. Using the link that I provided here is the definition: Tethering connectivity. Safe to remove if you don't use tethering/access point mode.

Should have zero impact on anything.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
As far as other .apks safe to remove, anything camera related, live wall papers, daydream, slim file explorer (I find ESS explorer to be much better) the Google ears, TTS, and a few others I can't remember right now. The more I remove the snappier this ROM becomes. Once I test out a few others I believe are safe to remove I'll report back. I'll also keep an eye of resource use and battery life after a couple days.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
he he he. i like it. im keeping print spooler though:)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Ninjaed by [MENTION=3816775]koop1955[/MENTION], looks like he types faster than I do. LOL :D. Pretty much the same .apks I've been removing..

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What is the keychain.apk?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Keychain APK seems to have something to do with passwords and removal is NOT recommended.

Further detail: http://developer.android.com/reference/android/security/KeyChain.html

koop the Ninja
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Good to know. Thanks for the link.

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[MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] I have a suggestion. For the next release try removing the apks that were mentioned but put a zip to the removed apks in the OP for those that wasn't them. It seems like it would be easier to release a clean and lite version and install wanted apks than it would be remove them after every update. Perhaps you can rename it CleanKat. :)

Anyway after removing the unneeded and useless apks this ROM is flying, no lag is noticed at all. I was having some intermittent SOD before so I'll keep an eye on that and after a full overnight charge I'll keep an eye on battery vs screen time. I think they will improve due to less resource use and freed up memory.

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Ninjaed by [MENTION=3816775]koop1955[/MENTION] again. Didn't see this before.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Great Minds And Such

[MENTION=4975132]sabres032[/MENTION], we seem to think alike! Must be that Rochester connection.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Used up my allotted eight likes for the day. Booooo..... :(

Yep, great minds think alike.. :D
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
If there is no way to have RAM in the recents, is there a good app that shows amount of RAM being used in the notifications?:confused::confused:
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
I really don't understand what you are trying to accomplish, but it looks like there are Xposed modules for this: http://repo.xposed.info/module/ro.brucelee.xposed.recenttasksram

Now that says it was extracted from GravityBox, which you said that you were using, so I am little lost in why you don't have it already.

Since no one else here (as far as I know) is using Xposed, you might be better off asking on the Xposed forums if that doesn't solve your problem.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] KCJunkman:
I was using it earlier, but I uninstalled it to switch to ART, which to me made a noticeable difference in the snappiness of the apps

KCJunkman
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
Well, since this ROM uses Slim Recents which is not Stock, this module does not work on this ROM, so I need an app that can allow me to see consumed ram in the notifications.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Neoistheone2000:
I just go to settings, apps, then running. Once there I look for the Google Play Services that has Wearables in it and then kill it, it will stay goon till I reboot. It's the only process I have beef with.

I need to get my own OTG cable and see if i can get a Bluetooth dongle working.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
OTG actually works on your Kindle???:confused::confused: On my kindle, every time I plug in my OTG cable it shuts down the device. I think it may be cable specific, i may need to get another OTG cable though...
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
I don't see any wearable service running under either of the play service tabs...
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Vlasp:
I wish we could have themer launcher for this device (or any tablets in that matter). The launcher actually looks pretty sweet.:crying::crying:
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Throwing a monkey wrench into testing. I switched over to ART just to see what would happen an so far everything is working solid. Not seeing much of a difference in responsiveness of the device but I'm hoping for a better battery life due to improved resource management. [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] I saved a backup of the ROM with Dalvik Runtime to switch back to if you need specific testing.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] asjimene:
I'm having a weird issue, my tablet seems to think that it is yesterday. I have the correct timezone set and I have it set for network time... Very odd
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
Try booting into recovery-> wipe-> advanced wipe and clear cache and davlik cache and see if that fixed the problem.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] asjimene:
That worked, seems to be the standard android fix for anything lol. Thanks!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lowpro3210:
for some reason my kindle was a little sluggish with using (Slim-otterx-4.4.4.build.8.0-stable-F2FS-777kernel-linaro4.9 and Slim_mini_gapps.4.4.4.build.7.x-187) ; as recommended in OP. I did add trickstermod and switched it over from interactive to performance and that really spiced things up a bit :D ; has anyone messed around much using trickster with this kernel (777kernel), and if so, any suggestions on settings?

Thanks :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] asjimene:
[MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] has been messing around with the smartassv2 governor which balances good performance with good battery life. I believe the "performance" governor simply locks the CPU at 100% so you will get crazy good performance, but less than optimal battery life. Hopefully this explains things well enough.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
I updated Netflix moments ago to the latest version: 3.8.1. It still doesn't work. Anyone have an idea as to what changed from 8.1 to 8.4 to cause this (or am I the only one who has this problem?) Other than that, everything I've thrown at 8.4 seems to work fine.

One thing I've noticed is that the nav bar buttons need to be pressed almost in the middle, vertically anyway, for them to work. Is this a Slim thing? I don't recall having this problem with CM or Carbon. Is there a way to adjust the sloppiness of the nav bar so that one could press more towards the top or bottom of it and still have it work? Thanks.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] bflobills:
Is 8.4 considered an 'official' release now, or still under test?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] pfederighi:
I found an apk for Netflix 3.0.0 available at https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23159073880937064 and http://d-h.st/HIP and tried it and it works fine. I had tried versions prior to 3.8.1 before but had not gone back that far. I suspect (but haven't verified) that versions prior to whatever version had the icon change from red to white will work.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] bflobills:
I am using Netflix 3.8.1 on ROM v8.1 and it works fine!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
Netflix on Android has been hit-or-miss for me for quite a while. Updates seem to break things quite often. I don't run it on my Kindle anymore, but even on my Matricom set-top box I have issues.

Sounds like you both have things sorted at this point, so that is good.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lowpro3210:
Hey, where is 8.4 at, I only see 8.1 in the OP?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
more:) just do a backup and give it a go
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
normal is around 110 ?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
thats 300 free:)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
[MENTION=994299]dokie80[/MENTION]

sent you more pm's :)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] dokie80:
Installed. Data Restored via TTB.

Only nova launcher?

No problem so far. Thanks!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
yes only nova as stock. after updating google play services download Gel launcher from playstore
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
i also use xposed frameworks.apk with gel launcher module. it gives you some more settings for the Gel launcher.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] dokie80:
Gel launcher = Google now launcher?

anyway where is the expanded desktop setting? On CM we can set that status bar not hidden when using expanded desktop.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
that's part of the transparency issue:( im still trying to find a commit or some code to change. yes gel is google now launcher
[Kindle Fire Android Development] dokie80:
Installed Gel :)

I just miss the status bar on extended desktop.

Btw, installed early build with no problem so far.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] VTCruzer:
Make sure you check out the GEL Xposed Setting module. It makes it the perfect launcher :D

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/mod-xposed-gel-settings-hide-google-t2647275

Edit: 100th post! Woot!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] Hashbang173:
Kit kat launcher works pretty well.

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Be sure to check out themed google keyboards in the s4 themes and apps section they work well

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2387785
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
its very quiet in here, anyone know of a way to sort netflix??
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
build slimkatversion 5.4 is building. ?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] ablabla:
Hey,

When will it be available for download?

:D

Thanks!
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
hit errors:( somethings changed:). im out with the kids and will sort later. sorry for being premature
[Kindle Fire Android Development] ablabla:
That's ok!

Take your time!

:o
[Kindle Fire Android Development] sabres032:
[MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION]; I'm still rocking the 5.1 build with ZERO issues!!! I'm almost afraid to update.. :D
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
back in an hour:D then its build time:D
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lovejoy777:
the new google now in 5.4 gapps. awesome:)
[Kindle Fire Android Development] lllukas:
Here it is :)

https://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=95747613655044439
[Kindle Fire Android Development] thedarksavant:
Google search and Chrome are force closing. Play store won't log in to my account. I see a possible solution to Play Store in the OP, but does anyone else have search or chrome issues?

Tried 8.1 and 8.4 with mini gapps. Also tried dalvik and art.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] kev716:
Yes I'm seeing the same with version 8.4
[Kindle Fire Android Development] koop1955:
The Chrome crashing issue has been a stubborn one; the dev has been working on it since http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55579919&postcount=784 and over here verified what the problem is: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55764637&postcount=1018

The issue seems to be that when the ROM is built with the Linaro toolchain, it makes the latest versions of Chrome unhappy. At the same time, that tool chain makes the ROM faster.

Two solutions offer themselves:

1) Switch to a different browser until the issue is fixed. I am using Dolphin and find it faster and more extensible.

2) Find an earlier version of Chrome (26 is reported as working) and go back to that. Make sure that Play doesn't auto-update it.

Let me know if this helps.
[Kindle Fire Android Development] t3chwizard:
Does anyone know what OtterX means. I haven't been on the kind section of XDA for a while and now I'm seeing OtterX everywhere. What is the difference between Otter and OtterX?
[Kindle Fire Android Development] b63:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2671619