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[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
OK the first post has been updated with the tools required for the update, as well as a direct link to the 1.13 ROM and Radio on the FTP.

As for the Radio Country ID error, I admit this is probably an oversight of mine. I initially used MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe with the radio on my Magician only to have it angrily spit out an error 150: incorrect device. Renaming the HTCRUU.dll to RUU.dll gave me the same error! I then ran the original MaUpgradeUt.exe and oddly enough it worked. After doing the same thing with my uncle's Magician, I concluded that the noID thing was not needed for the radio and hence I didn't mention it at all!

So really I don't know what to say about this other than if the country-ID upgrade fails, consult this thread: http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=30717
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Maybe depending on which original rom. Mine was Orange.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
That kinda makes sense I guess. As for the lack-of-replies thingy, I think that could be due to the fact:

1. No one knows the answer

2. Whoever asked the question skimped too much on details or doesn't punctuate their questions or spellcheck\grammarcheck them or... well you get my drift!

3. The question has already been solved, and\or its a question about something impossible. Forum search!

The most irritating thing is that 2. and 3. seem to almost always go hand-in-hand :lol:. Granted, I know that it is a bit tough to find the right solution to a problem, but remember that this is a forum, a developer's forum mostly, and an unmoderated one at that! All the information is there, but its everywhere, so be thankful for those willing to spend time to gather it up into something digestible! :D
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] snorlax:
Hi,

each time I heard about the NoID_MaUpgradeUt.exe, I read that you have to run it twice to make it work : the first time it gives the famous Country Error ID but the 2nd time it works... Hope this helps...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Heh yeah I heard that too, but I got away with not using NoID at all! In fact NoID was paining me with code 150 errors instead of the country ID 120 errors, but I hope with this suggestion and also the link above people will be able to figure out the problem.

And also, does having not so many posts on your guide a good thing or not? It could be good because almost no-one has a problem, or it could be bad because no-one uses it :). Or I could just be placing too much of my self-esteem on the balance of a forum thread :oops:.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Actually, as long as you do not rename HTCRuu.dll to Ruu.dll, the .exe will not even start (because it searches for "Ruu.ddl and can't find it)

Now I got no idea whether there are many versions with different attributes or what.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Must be a mixture of both :lol:

+ the fact that this model is quite old now and most people have upgraded.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MocciJ:
Hi,

since I've had serious problems after installing o2 active crap, I needed to hard reset the magician.. but I decided this time to proceed with a bigstorage installation!! And the guide u provided is just great :D I've done bigstorage succesful, and now I have 26,72mb of total memory.. Anyway, is that normal that even if it's empty, it displays 1,12mb of memory in use?? Maybe I should format it.. :wink:

MANY THANKS!!

MocciJ
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Hey hey! Thread's back to business 8)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MocciJ:
hmm, I think is a file alLOcaTioN OF SOmethiNg, cuz I've filled the total memory and deleted all later to find that the memory in use is around 1.11 - 1.13mb.. :? what is it??

MocciJ
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Awesome! My esteem is saved! :lol:

Anyway the 1.12MB usage of Storage is normal, mine's like that too but I have no clue why! I believe that it might have something to do with the space reserved for the 'Permanent Storage' function in the Settings section.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Please note that the PDF above has been updated to improve the general reliability of the method. More details on the first post!

:oops: And I forgot to mention the 1.12MB storage thingy in the PDF... nuts!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MocciJ:
Well, if it's normal, then I succesfully upgraded to bigstorage :D I think is persistent storage too..

Around 1mb of unknown used memory is absolutely normal!! :wink:

MocciJ
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] mrplatypus:
.. my Orange SPV m500 does not recognise my Orange Sim Card?

If I were to install these upgrades would this provide a fix for the problem?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Re: .. my Orange SPV m500 does not recognise my Orange Sim C

Sorry, no idea mate. But if you have some time, it shouldn't hurt to try! If it still wont read your sim card, take it back to Orange - as no sim card = less money from you to Orange, so they should be tripping over themselves in trying to help you fix that 'inconvience' :wink:.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] mrplatypus:
.. my problem is ..

I originally upgraded with a motorola v3x ..

I couldn't get on with it, so got me my m500 ..

.. my current contract doesn't end till february 2007...

please pass on my concerns to others for help ...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] henfeb:
sd card problem

HELP...i have tried the method,& thanks,managed to upgrade to 1.13

BUT,my sd card can't be read by my computer or Xda mini itself!

how can i make my sd card readable again??

I can access using flexhex..but how to make it readable for computer & xda mini?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Re: sd card problem

Assuming you mean the SD card you used to flash your XDA Mini, insert the card into your computer's SD reader, go to My Computer, right click the SD card and click 'format'. Choose 'FAT32' as your flie system and click on 'Start'. This should ready the card for use.

If that fails, try out Panasonic's SD card formatter (http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/cs/sd/download/sd_formatter.html), which formats cards according to the precise SD card standards.

If THAT fails then you might have to format the card using Windows Disk Management or Paragon Partition Manager. Feel free to ask about these if the previous two fail!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] henfeb:
thanks dude!...i actually took out my sd card,reinsert again,& it prompted me to reformat..so problem solved!

now going to go for big storage!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Intimidator:
Just followed the guide and worked, well with exception of the backup bit, when i tried the command:

ntrw read originalrom.nb1 f:

in my case

ntrw read originalrom.nb1 i:

It said that couldn’t recognize the drive, tried more than once, made sure the drive was letter i: and that the SD was in place, but never worked, well not really bothered with the backup anyway, would be good if it worked.

Except that minor thing everything else worked like a charm, going to test everything now, including Bluetooth etc, to see if i need to install any of the additional crap.

Thanks for the Guide.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Gleb_Gromov:
1

sry, links dont work
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Which links? The FTP links in the PDF still seem to work.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] czayna:
thanks man of lot!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] djoole:
Everything worked well, till 2g. "Ripping and patching the 1.13 rom"... First of all, FlexHex didn't recognized my KINGSTON SD 2 GB card, but then i used the ntrw tool to read the card and write it to the file and open it (originalrom.nb1) with a FlexHex editor. When i used the SEARCH option, FlexHex found only one string that should be changed, it could not find another one. Then again i used ntrw tool to write it back to the card, flashed it to Magician, got that screen to push power to flash, and after all, nothing happened...So, what's the deal ?? Can anybody help ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
I strongly recommend you try the procedure with a 128MB card, or at least a card under 2GB, as apparently the way a 2GB SD card arranges its data is different to how a 1GB or smaller card arranges its data (I don't know the details, but I believe that it has something to do with multiple layers within the SD card) which is why you might find some older devices will only work with 1GB SDs or smaller (eg. the Motorola MPx200 smartphone, cheap mp3 players). Since I'm not too clear on the details about this I can't really give you a proper explanation at the moment, but just try to get hold of a smaller SD card for a little while, and if it doesn't work then post again!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] djoole:
Already tryed yesterday with a 256 mgb SD from my digital camera....Same thing :(
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] docnas:
umm im sure its been already asked but here goes while searing the FTP site here i saw a folder named BIGSTORAGE ROMS now since i was goin to do a bigstorage this sounded like an easy thing to do so i downloaded the tmobile 1.13 rom the download file was around 17 mb when i unzipped it it came to around 65mb but contained only one file named bs113.nb1 .

my question is what should i do with this file?? should i try hex editing it?? when i searched for the string we were supposed to edit i couldnt find it so im stumped anyone can help me ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] djoole:
No, you don't need to edit it, it's already a bigstorage rom. I suppose you should use ntrw tool to write that rom to your sd card...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] djre:
I am registered and logged in, but when i want to open the pdf file it gives an error that it is corrupted or could not be repaired?

Anyone else has this problem or could someone send me the pdf by pm, email or from another link?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] latadeatum:
Just downloaded the pdf, seems ok.

Try using Foxit pdf reader. Simple, fast & reliable ;)

http://us01.foxitsoftware.com/foxitreader/foxitreader_setup.exe
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
That does need some hexediting - you need to put your device's unique header data into it. If you can find it, ampda's guide deals with that.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
By FlexHex not recognising your Storage Card, you mean that it can't see it or it just spits out an error message if you try and open it with FlexHex?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] djoole:
Well, it says somthing like: "Card format is not supported" or something like that, I am not near my desktop computer, so i can't tell you what exactly it says. What version of FlexHex do you have?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
2.2. Tried another SD card reader?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] djoole:
Yeap, but nothing changed....
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Hmmm... sorry but I can't think of much else. The only thing here I can point the finger at is the Magician itself, which may not be writing the ROM correctly to the card in the first place. If you have had any problems with SD cards in it in the past, then this might be the case.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Bump.

Sorry, but no one else seems to want to do it, and I'd rather keep this thread afloat for convenience's sake.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] sid_isin:
Help

Hey can u tell me where i can get rom upgrade for my O2 mini xda, 1.12 or 1.13
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] Nguyen_Tung:
Help Me

Please !

How to download ALL new files upgr for O2 XDA II mini (Magician) ?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Geez... have you guys even read the PDF file?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] fiveaboy2:
I think there is one slight issue in the PDF - it links to a version of NTRW.exe that does not support the ntrw READ filename.nbf drive: syntax.

check it out if you dont believe me! I did however find another NTRW on the ftp site, i think it might be better to link to that one.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Interesting.

I'll look into it.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
OK you're right, the one linked to in the file doesn't support the READ command for some reason, unlike the one I used to link to on ampda's site. If there is another working one on the FTP, kindly post the link so that I can update the PDF.

Thanks for the heads up!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] hendrixus:
Hi,

How do I go on with a IMATE JAM which doesn't contain provider crap? I bough this device from somebodyelse who didn't told me yet what ROM he used,.

Model PM10A

ROM 1.13.00WWE

Rom date:8/18/05

Radio 1.12.10

Protocol 1337.42

extrom:empty

Any help please?

Thanks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] mokz316:
question

hi all,

i have a question.. what is the big deal with this 1.13 radio and bigstorage thingy? i read that with the bigstorage rom you will save extra storage space but what does the radio rom do? does it give you radio capabilities over your existing XDA mini?

thanks!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] mraspati:
Hello i'm new in this forum!! I'm italian and i've acquired from an ebayer in Germany an O2 xda II mini, with a rom and the software in German...

I try to download the pdf to use a new rom, but when i open it on my pc appears an error : "this file is damaged and could not be repaired"...

What ca i do?????

Thanks. Marco
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] darnel:
Hi,

I didn't do update exactly by this tutorial, but some steps were similar, so I'm trying ask here :rolleyes:

1) I backuped Magician ROM using d2s command in romupdate tool. Is there any upper limit of ROM size? I expected that file written with NTRW is some-sized ROM image and rest is previous garbage from SD. Can I cut the file e.g. at 64MB without any risk?

2) When I write ROM image to previously formated SD (using NTRW write xxx xxx) and insert card in Magician, often it didn't recognize it and nothing happen. But If I do "d2s" command and then (without any reformat) write to SD using NTRW it works well. It looks to me like NTRW doesn't write data "raw enough" and something should be prepared from d2s. Have someone same expericences?

I already asked elsewhere, but I don't know how to delete that thread...

Thanks for answers.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] claudio2ee:
Hi!

I want to do the same ... ALL-IN-ONE (change OS language from Spanish & upgrading to WWE & BigStorage). I have 2 questions but I've put them in other thread, so I briefly resume here (hope not to be disturbing): Do I need to change the 416 bites of nk.nb1 with those of my old ROM? Or the MaUpgradeUt_noId.exe do all the magic and I don't need a hex editor?

I have read the forum and wiki pages... But I didn't understand what the BigStorage hack (change of 2 bytes) really do. Why after modifying those 2 bytes we are awarded wit a BigStorage? Maybe I need some of the cabs which are in the Extended_ROM.

Thank you.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] srk:
Hi All,

I hope this doesn't sound too dumb but, is this radio and rom upgrade for a 850mHz or 900mhz.

I have a 900mhz and want to switch to 850mHZ.

thanks
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] websinister:
thanks for this guide...it helps me a lot on upgrading my magician....:cool:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Sorry about my lack of presence in this thread recently, its just that I've been out enjoying my new found freedom after the dreadful HSC (Australia's equivalent of the US's SAT). I'll try and catch up with the Q&A in a short while, if anyone is still reading this.

1) Yes, the actual ROM usually does not extend beyond 64MB. You should be able to safely cut trailing 0's from the ROM file using a hex editor, however make sure that what you delete is actually completely empty.\\

2) I've found NTRW to be a bit unreliable with some SD cards too. What I tend to do when that happens is use FlexHex to copy-and-paste the contents of the ROM file to the SD card, a pretty simple process which so far has been completely reliable.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Using a different language ROM should work fine with this procedure, though I have not actually tried so don't quote me on that!

With this method, there is no need to edit the first 416 bytes or so of each ROM - MaUpgradeUt_noId.exe installs the ROM to your device, adding that 416 bytes of device data to the ROM as needed, hence when you extract that ROM again to perform the BigStorage hack your 416 bytes of device data is already there.

As you probably already know, BigStorage increases your Magician's Storage from ~7MB to ~25MB. It does this by adding the part of your Magician's Storage that is usually hidden - the 'Extended ROM' that holds all the installation files for the provider customizations and programs included with the ROM. How changing two bytes does this... I don't really know. Just be grateful someone discovered it :).
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
This is a radio and ROM upgrade for all Magicians, regardless of radio frequency. I don't think it is possible to switch radio frequency through a ROM upgrade - as far as I know, at the moment this is limited by the hardware your Magician has, so it would take some physical change to switch frequencies.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] darnel:
Very thank you for your answers :)

Only notice... usually there are not trailing zeros, because pocket device writes only ROM-size and rest left unchanged, so there can be garbage from previous filesystem etc.

However I tried clear the card with writting one big file containing binary zeros before ROM backup from pocket device.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ryshah:
@oltp ..

Have read this entire thread...

Found ur stuff.. awesome.. very precise !! :)

Dwnloaded ur pdf..

A planning to upgrade y device in a day or two..

Few q's !!

Is the PDF up-to-date ??

All the links ? All the info ?? Or do i need to look elsewhere ??

Here's my current device settings..

Rom - 1.11.00 WWE

Rom Date - 03/14/05Radio - 1.11.00

Protocol - 1337.42

ExtRom - 1.11.132 WWE

Any and all help will be really appeciated !!

TIA.

Btw.. gr8 thread this.. and reps to 'toomuchdogfur' !!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
If I already have BigStorage, can I just upgrade the ROM? Or do I have to patch it with the SDCard method again?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] zerimar:
You will loose BS if you upgrade using shipped roms. There is a BS rom ver. 1.13 in the ftp. I suggest you search how to use it because I've always used shipped roms and made BS rom using the SD method.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
Greets.

I did that now. But I did not used the SD card.

Just performing a hex edit on the 4 bytes on the rom did it for me.

No need to paste device id on the rom, also.

Thanks.

PS: I followed this howto -> http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=MagicianRomUpgrade
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] MatteoC:
I've a problem opening the pdf guide: "Error opening file. File is damaged". Anyone have his problem?? Anyone can help me?

Thank's,

Matteo.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] zerimar:
Congrats rjtd!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] DrYurich:
ntrw.exe isn't work as You say ... :-(

Thats it ...

And now I can't make ROM backup from SD.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] snorlax:
Use this "old" version instead...
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] DrYurich:
Yesss!

It's work ...

Thanks :-)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] yawn:
Is hexediting with any official ROM can enable the BigStorage? I have the O2 asia rom. please advise.

cheers~~~
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] websinister:
yes it is also applicable...

:cool:
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Thanks a heap to snorlax for posting the 'old' but working version of ntrw.exe. I've updated the first post to link to this file, a bit of a patchy fix I admit, but until I can find more time it'll have to do!

And also its great to know that my guide has helped so many. Thanks for reading! :)

EDIT: Oh and I almost forgot, lots of thanks to those offering advice to others asking questions on this thread during my periods of laziness!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Redownload it. The file is intact from what I can see, however it may have become corrupt during download. Hopefully it'll only take the one redownload to get a working copy!
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] putradunn:
Great Tips.. thanx :)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] cignu:
to me the odf guide works fine
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] rjtd:
Why do you all use the SDCard method?
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] snorlax:
Thanks to your guide, I managed to update my JAM in a really secure and efficent way...

BTW Happy New Year to all of you !
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ayman_12031:
its interisting thing i will see it:)
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] ryshah:
Any help ??
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] janus2007:
My experience

I followed the PDF and upgraded today. Everything seemed to go smoothly except that after flashing my qtek (last setp) and doing a hard reset nothing happens (the screen stays dark, no sign of life, and I waited about 30 minutes to give it time).

Anyway, I'm now reflashing it again (step 2h) and I hope that this time it'll work (at least I can get the bootloader so worse case scenario I go back to original ROM).

One important tip: use a small to medium size SD card (around 128 megs).

Also a question to those more knowledgeable:

1) I followed the PDF but substituted the NL_11300_131_11200 ROM with WWE_11300_550_11200 ROM from the FTP since I wanted english not dutch (NL means dutch right?). Could this be the cause of my failure? Is the NL ROM in Dutch as I presumed? Should I do it all again with the NL_11300_131_11200 ROM as per the PDF guide?

Any help greatly appreciated.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
Yes, guide and links are still up to date and valid, except for the link to ntrw.exe, which is noted in the first post of this thread.
[JAM, MDA Compact, S100 Software Upgrading] toomuchdogfur:
In theory it should work with any ROM that can be successfully flashed onto the Magician in the first place, however I cannot personally guarantee that my method works with any ROM other than the one provided. Did the Dutch ROM work on your Magician before you applied the BigStorage patch? If so then consider checking that you replaced all occurrences of the string that you are required to replace during hex editing, as some ROMs may have more than two occurrences. If it still doesn't work, then try reflashing the ROM without any edits at all (yes, rip the ROM and SD card flash your Magician again without any modifications) - if this fails, then the ROM simply doesn't like the SD card flash method (some don't, for reasons unknown!) so you will not be able to BigStorage this ROM anyway.

However if the ROM does not work when BigStoraged, but it does when merely reflashed, then I guess the ROM just doesn't like being BigStoraged! Computers are finicky. Sorry, I can't offer any definitive advice since I have not tried your ROM myself.

And yes, NL is dutch. And yes, a 128MB SD card is recommended - a safeguard to catch any data that MAY fall over the stated 64MB of ROM, but not too large as to bloat the filesize of the ROM.