yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] yummy:
I managed to get a pre-registered Pocket MSN by copying files over from my dusty old HP I don't use anymore.

Files copied:

pmsnshared.dll

pmsnserver.exe

pmsnresources.dll

pmsnresources.96.dll

pmsnlauncher.exe

pmsnhotmail.dll

pmsn.lnk

pmsn.cpl

Needed to remove the system file attribute to copy it over though. I guess this is helpful if you have a copy of a pre-installed Pocket MSN lying around that you don't use anymore!

If the admins believe this isn't legal, feel free to delete!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ariddell:
Or just go here and download and install it normally.....

http://mobile.msn.com/ac.aspx?cid=pmsn_requirements
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hassan:
Here is Windows Mobile Live Messenger for PPC. :)
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mmm_ok:
Yeah, but if you use this link you have to pay £10.99 to use a program that everyone uses for free...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] mmm_ok:
Hi Hassan. Thanks for the post. Is this still beta software?

I'll give it a try though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] hassan:
Yeap it is, i've been using it since three days now had no problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] nickb23:
Hi All,

I downloaded Mobile Live and Messenger from this forum, and was able to install it on my Orange M3100. I then hook up my M3100 to my work wifi. I then run Live, and comes up saying "looking for internet connection" It then comes up with the bubble saying connecting to 3G, which I then hit cancel. It then seems to use the wifi connection the syncronise. Also when using it it, the 3G connection bubble appears regularly, and I have to cancel it. Is there any way I can stop Windows Live and messenger using the 3G service, and just WiFi?

thank

Nick
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] bbasra:
Just installed it. Thanks. I notices it still keep the Pocket MSN Messenger too.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] issie:
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am actually after the hotmail part of the program than the other bits. i copied all the above files from my m5000 to the m3100 when you click on pmsnluncher nothing happens. what am i doing wrong. please note there are other solutions to get msn messager working, but this dosn't include the hotmail setup. ..help
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] darkjedi:
That guy is missing a few files there, just to let you know.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] issie:
oh great !!!!!!!!!

can't wait for the beta fto end to i can't get the damm thing.

oh by the way you wouldn't know what the other files are would you?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] darkjedi:
Windows Live Messenger Mobile is still down, with no end in sight. I really haven't had a chance to look at the newsgroups lately to find out what's going on, but I guess I'll have to.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] issie:
at least i can give Yahoo Go some credit here, thier ppc client program works pecfectlyon my m3100 collecting all my yahoo emails.. let just hope google follow suite with a client version for picking up emails on the ppc.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Crash Override:
Gmail supports pop / smtp access, and uses non-standard ports, so you can use pocket outlook to retrieve / send emails on it without problems.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] johnkat777:
Hello .. bit of a newbie in relation to posting... Have a Hermes just released in Australia ..

Model HERM100

ROM 1.31.305.2

ROM DATE : 09/08/06

Radio 1.20.31.10

Protocol version 32.52.7020.00H

Extrom 1.31.305.103

Trying to be able to have a video conversation via any Messenger utility. From what I could find out believe Windows Live Messenger Mobile beta may do the trick.

Downloaded and installed the Beta app from this forum c/o Hassan .. loaded Ok .

I also have installed Windows Live messenger on a Laptop.

Using different Logon IDs , able to connect on th laptop but not on the Hermes.

Recieve message after accepting T&C "...There was either a problem with the service or your internet connection."

I have confirmed internet is working Ok , Wifi and 3G combined and independently.

Are there some steps I need to take or is a service down that connect mobile users to Windows live for PCs ???

Appreciate any guidance ..

Many Thanks

Johnkat
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Prerna:
I just installed Agile WM5 beta on my Hermes, and wow, I'm impressed! It nicely connects to Google contacts, Yahoo, MSN, AOL and more, all at once.

Options seem to mention a voice chat but I haven't tried it yet...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] wingzero124:
OK first post and its a silly question but I can't find anything on this using search.

How do you install all those files?

Thanks, and sorry.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
I have a LG Flex and like it a lot. Thinking on maybe getting the M8 and wondering if any Flex users have done the switch. What do you miss about the Flex and or if you regret it at all. Also how is the M8 battery compared to the Flex. The Flex battery life is what I like most about it. It's nice that I don't have to worry about charging my Flex untill I go to bed. I was going to try a Z2 but Sony is screwing up the release. I like what LG is doing and might get the G3 but kind of what a change since I had the G2 and Flex. Darm can't edit my title. lol
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] EtherealRemnant:
My roommate has the G Flex and the biggest change is the voice quality besides the 1080p screen. The voice quality (and sound in general) on the G Flex is mediocre at best.

When it comes to battery, they are both pretty comparable. The M8 has a more efficient processor and a faster user interface. My roommate is jealous of my M8 and would get one if the screen size matched (he's older and has a difficult time reading smaller text)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Chance Ill:
I owned the G2 as well. Honestly, i had no complaints other than the build quality. I just purchased the HTC One a couple days ago simply for a change of pace...... and I'm not disappointed. Other than the practically bezel-less display of the G2, the HTC One is perfect.

Some may argue that the camera is inferior than that of the G2's, It more then gets the job done. Fact is, it's a great device inside and out with build quality second to none.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
Yea at times I miss my G2 and it's development plus the size. If I got the M8 I would have to carry the phone naked since a case would defeat the feel of the phone. That's kind of risky after a some pbr's though. lol
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Chance Ill:
Considering T-Mobile's HTC One is compatible with both AT&T's and the International version, development is plentiful and will continue to grow. I also can't bring myself to put a case on this device, but I am mindful that just one drop will ruin the entire experience of owning such a well designed device. For that reason alone, I hold it with both hands when in use. Lol
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Da Kine:
Hey sweets55, just picked up a m8 yesterday, so far I'm loving it.

I can't say for sure, but from my usage on the phone, the batteries of the flex and m8 are not comparable so far. I do like the screen size better. The one thing that made the flex superior to the m8 was the option to change the button layout on the navigation bar.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] md1008:
I came from Nexus and I absolutely love both phones. I like the m8 just a tad bit more. Camera is good but I feel can be better. I really feel HTC made the best phone to date. It's just over all balanced, well crafted and the software both sense and GPE is buttery smooth. I favor GPE much more
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] saldebot:
Coming from the TMO G2, I have to say that I love this device. Build quality is truly mazing and the way it just feels in your hand just screams flagship. The battery is lasting me the same as the G2 doing exactly the same things. Picture quality honestly is really good for me( I am not the one to be taking pictures all day long). The M8's display seems a little bit sharper to me.

the things I miss from the G2 are the pop up windows for mms and calls. I also miss the stock UI's customization.

Over all I am extremely happy that I gave HTC another chance. I have had the M8 exactly one week today and it is THE ONLY PHONE I HAVE not ROOTED out of the box.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] JesseMT4G:
Thinking of getting one as well, but really love the pop window for mms as well. That and just can't see the m8 battery holding up like the Flex. I do feel that I want a better screen and size is becoming an issue.

Might just hold out for a G3. Really digging LG's software.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
I had my Flex sold for 20 more then what my asking price but got cold feet and couldn't pull the trigger on the M8. I just prefer a bigger phone then the M8. Going to wait for the G3 and or Z2 as well.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] JesseMT4G:
I have been rocking monster phones for awhile now. Dell Streak, Note 2 and now this. Sometimes I miss the smaller size for pocketbility and just doing general things. It's hard to use one hand with this device, even moving the navigation buttons.

Besides that and the older screen technology, it's an awesome phone!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
The Flex doesn't seem as big as other phones like the Note 2. I'm thinking the G3 will be the perfect size.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] zounduser:
The flex is a horrible phone. Over priced.

I owned it one day before marching it back. It had major ghosting issues, and is way too big. The curve is cool, and some of the software on it. I have a M8 now. My next purchase will b the LG og pro 2. Now that phone looks dope. Hoping someone in the states will get it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
LoL...^ I got $200 off my Flex and 6 months free of Netflix so I got a great deal on my Flex. I don't see how anyone can give a honest opinion on any phone after only 1 day using it. Just saying...No ghosting issues here but I keep my brightness always maxed and screen set to vivid. I can still make it 24hrs on one charge with heavy use. Never been able to do that before and my phone history is way to long to list. Lol. I have big hands so that might be why the Flex doesn't seem to big and the M8 feels small. Also I had the M7 and maybe the M8 isn't enough of a change for me. I like the Flex because it's different. It's kind of funny when people ask if I bent my phone.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] EtherealRemnant:
Its extremely easy to judge a phone with a screen as bad as the Flex has in a single day. It hurt my eyes right off the bat. I don't know how my roommate tolerates it at all. Then again he rarely looks at it, he's not a power user like me. That and the horrendous voice quality was enough to seal my hatred for it on day 1
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
I disagree. Horrendous Flex voice quality and hurting your eyes those are new ones. LoL. You need at least 3 full days to a week to review any phone. Imo. It's funny how some people rush to judgement and don't give the phone a chance. I've read Flex reviews and they mention nothing about the battery life. That right there tells me they didn't use the phone for a day. The Flex battery life is one of best out today and the 720p screen helps that. I would rather have 720p screen with a large screen + power all time then a 1080p smaller screen and having to charge. If you set a 720p screen next to 1080p screen most peoole wouldn't know the difference. Heck I can't even tell that much and I'm picky as hell (most on here are). Some people are just spec happy. Like some people don't like that the M8 only has a 4mp camera and or the quality of pictures.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] JesseMT4G:
I agree with Sweet. It's hard to judge a phone after a couple days. It took me a good week to be content. You get used to the screen. Yeah it is 720 and not 1080, however it's not as bad as some people make it out to be. Some people just have to have the latest and greatest.

I can't agree on the size though. This is a huge phone. Much bigger than the N2. The Curve is a niche thing and hardly notice it anymore. It's cool at 1st, but quickly goes away.

What saves this phone, is its amazing battery life. I can stream Netflix a few hours a day and or teather it to my N7 and still get 15 hours off it with close to 7 hours on-screen time. That's incredible to me and haven't run across a phone that can compete.

Also standby time is unbelievable! 1% in 8 hours is like... WOW

Its just the size for me. Can careless IMO about the phone being spec'd out to the max.

Also call quality has been the best of any phone I have had. Not sure where people are having that issue.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Da Kine:
How the hell can you give an honest opinion about a phone after only one day of use? I bought the Flex for two reasons. The first reason was the battery, I had a nexus 4 prior to getting the flex and the battery was horrendous. The second reason I bought the flex was because of the large screen and 6 months of Netflix that came with it.

Sure, the flex has its flaws, but what phone doesn't? I'll admit that at first I hated the flex because of two reasons. The first being the button layout for the volume and power buttons, that took a little time to get used to, but it eventually grew on me. Another reason that I didn't like the flex was because it was on 4.2 and T-Mobile is taking there sweet time to release it.

Saying a 720p screen hurts your eyes is a little much, don't you think so? I guess it was impossible for you to use a cellphone until the oppo find 5 came out (I think that it was the first phone to have a 1080p screen). Yeah it's extremely easy to judge the flex (or any phone for that matter) from one day of use. I swear, just about everyone is a spec whore. Bad voice quality? I think that the voice quality was a plus for a flex, it wasn't perfect, but it was better than the voice quality on most of the phones I've owned.

I've owned my m8 for a couple of days now and it definitely has its flaws, but instead of bashing it after only owning it for a couple days, I'm going to use it for a couple of weeks and give an HONEST opinion. But one thing that I can say for sure is that the navigation bar button layout just sucks, I've given it a chance on other phones, but I just hate not having a designated menu button.

[MENTION=1791411]sweets55[/MENTION] I know, every time I pulled my flex out, people would ask me if I bent my phone or if I bought it that way lol.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
Yea I didn't care for the M8 nav bar as well. I like my back button on the right. I use G2 Xposed to shrink the nav bar on my Flex. Not sure if you can do that with the M8. On screen nav bars take up screen space. I kind of miss Samsung phones since they don't take up screen space and a physical home button. I might get the G3 and then Note 4. LoL
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Da Kine:
The one thing I think Samsung did best was the layout of the buttons on the phone (menu, home and back). You can shrink the nav bar on the m8 with Xposed, but it gives you a huge back button (unless the height of the nav bar is changed to 40 and below). The S3 was my last Samsung phone and i'm not going back. Too many pointless features and way too much bloat. I really wish that HTC would add the option to change the buttons on the nav bar or let the users choose a certain button layout like LG did with their phones.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] zounduser:
It honestly took one day. I don't care who believes it or not. My opinion stands. The flex was/is "in my opinion" not as good as most phones out there at its price. Another thing that I couldn't stand, on day one.....was how dust, and lint stuck to the back of the phone! These are my opinions on it. Last time I checked, people are allowed to have an onion. And comparing it to the M8!! Lol, are u kidding me? The ONLY thing it has over the M8, is size. In my opinion.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
Umm most phones are over priced and it's not like you have to pay full price for any phone. I've had phones that I didn't like for a few days but after giving it a chance I realized I liked the phone. That's fine you didn't like the Flex but to say it's a horrible phone after a day of use is just silly. Oh and I'm not saying the Flex is better then the M8 but you make it seem that it's no contest between them which makes me think your a HTC fanboy.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Da Kine:
Wait wait wait, where did I or anyone else say that we didn't believe you? I believe that it was said that you can't give an honest review/opinion of a device after one day of usage and really you can't. That's great that your opinion stands.

Besides the flex having a 720p display and the "extreme" lint situation you had, how do you know the phone isn't as good as most phones out there in the same price range? You used the flex for one day, you barely gave it a chance.

That's great that these are your opinions of the device. You're right, everyone is allowed to have an opinion. I or anyone else said you couldn't have an opinion, I'm simply trying to understand why you're bashing a phone that you used for one day.

Not only does the Flex have size over the M8, but it also has a bigger battery (just about 1,000mAh more).
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] holla420:
Never owned the g crap or gflex I should say. Played around with one and I hated it. Sorry it's an LG thang. Had one LG and never getting another one. I have a M8 now and loving it. The M8 to me from Wat I experienced destroys the gflex in everything way there's no comparison.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] zounduser:
Correct sir. No comparison. The screen is 720p, has ghosting issues. Lol. And for those who won't admit that, lol, it was confirmed by LG, and AT&T. Plus, if I remember right, there's no SD card slot.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] holla420:
+1 million
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
Da Kine has a Flex and a M8. LoL. It was never my intentions to make any M8 users pissy. All I wanted was a honest opinion from users that had both phones. Most phone junkies will agree you need around a week to test a phone. That's fine you think the Flex is a dud and pos after a day. Now your saying the Flex battery life is better then the M8. Like I said you make it sound like the M8 is blows the Flex away. As far as battery life and screen size that's not the case. I bet I've owned just as many phones as you or pretty damn close. I usually keep a phone around 3-5 months. I loved my HTC Evo back in the day. If HTC made the best phones they wouldn't be struggling and big wigs wouldn't be leaving the company.

If you haven't owned the LG Flex and M8 then why even post. LoL
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] holla420:
Lol
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] zounduser:
Dude, I've owned both. Lol. And I'm saying the battery in the M8 is ridiculous. Ask any M8 owner. It's crazy how much better it is than the M7. I gave u my honest opinion. The M8 is a better phone than the flex. And I doubt u have owned as many as me. Lol. I'm a junkie bro. Big time. But nevertheless, I gave an honest opinion. If I we're u, I would most definitely get the M8.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
LoL...bro I know you have owned both phones. I figured you knew who I was talking about. I was with Sprint for 14 years and T-Mobile for a year. I've owned so many phones I've lost track. A Sprint manager was impressed with my phone history and said he didn't have enough paper to print it out. LoL. Really it doesn't matter who has owned more phones. You like what you like and the same for me. I usually always just try the phone for myself but with other phones coming out soon I wasn't sure to pull the trigger or wait. I realize now the M8 is not for me. I prefer a bigger phone.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Neo:
Thread Cleaned.

While everyone is rightfully subject to their own opinion regardless of duration of ownership with any device, this discussion needs to remain respectful to anyone both participating and reading.

Thank you,

Neo

Forum Moderator
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] :
I very very briefly considered it, but I can't go back down in size after having the Flex, not all the way down to 5 flat. That, and since I already carry two other devices, the Flex lives very well in my back pocket since we changed dress code at work (RIP dress pants with infinite pockets) If my droid was my DD or my work device I might consider it, but since I use the Flex for media, its perfect.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Tidbits:
I have the G2, and GFlex. The UI is too "busy" for my taste. Sony, Motorola, and HTC seems to be going the path I like. It doesn't have to be stock, but it doesn't have to be over-bloated either.

I live the M8 over any LG device right now. I was thinking about the G Pro 2, but that phone was announced months ago and LG isn't even sure they want to bring it to the US. I am honestly no longer going to import devices. I am glad LG did this, because I probably wouldn't have given the M8 a chance, and so far I have not regretted my purchase.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] imarq:
I had the gflex since release...I loved everything about. But after having big phones for a while I decided to change it up. So I got the m8 on release I now love having a " regular" sized phone now. I'm running gpe on mine and now my battery last just under what my flex did....I love this phone its really a beautiful device.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] psn1819:
I had both the g flex and M8 5 days apart from each other ..I like g flex bc of how different it was design wise but after that it was more like I just had it becaue it was different but after a bit it just felt like I owned a giant g2...then , a rep I know at a local store near me , had showed me a demo of the M8 and was blown away by the touch and feel and features ...it has a less is more thing going for it which I like...I don't usually like to go by my history with past manufacturers but I've had issues in the past with LG...never good... whether it was build quality or software i have had to send and send ...HTC is not perfect but the M8 is as strong and reliable as the m7 which when I had it was the best android phone I ever owned...here's The thing though if you love the g flex for what it is and can deal with its flaws then don't jump ...but I jumped bc the m7 never disappointed and the m8 has yet to disappoint either.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
Yea I like my Flex a lot and sticking with it. Have no issues with it or the G2. I like what LG is doing. I just thought to maybe change things up but prefer a wider/bigger phone then the M8. Will be probably getting the G3 or the Z2 if T-Mobile ever gets it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] shuvarts:
So, can anyone who has owned both phones and used them for a while (like at least a week or more) tell me which one has better battery life between G2 and M8? Spec wise G2 has bigger battery but M8 has smaller screen and newer processor.... Can someone please tell me which performed better in battery department in real life use? Thanks
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] JesseMT4G:
If you read up on reviews here or other carriers, the HTC some how has an amazing battery and people saying they get 6-7 hours on-screen times. That's what I get with my Flex, but I stream a lot of Netflix and use the browser a lot, which kills battery.

My g2's the family use don't get but 4-5 hours on-screen.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sweets55:
My Flex seems to last almost 2x as long as my G2. I thought the G2 had great battery life. Think the Flex 720p screen helps battery life.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] barondebxl:
Theres no way the M8 and G Flex are comparable in battery life. The G flex is better in battery no question.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] psn1819:
It's a mix bag ...I had all 3...the g flexs 3500mah battery is very strong and can last long like 9-10hrs on a single charge. it just the p-oled and few older features drain it...I'd also say that even though the g2 has a 3000mah and the one has a 2600mah the battery life is pratically the same which is kind of strange but that might be a snapdragon 800vs 801 thing ...they last around 7-8hours on a single charge..just bare in mind that you can't lose with any of them really..