yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
Thanks for reading... I realize this thread moves fast, but I legitimatly would like to warn anyone that hasn't updated.... It may just be the 9.30.1 ota that's faulty. To my knowledge I'm the only one running it, everyone else is on 9.18.94 with seemingly good results
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
You cannot "keep root" during an OTA install of a stock ROM. Never have been able to, never will be able to. There used to be methods using VooDoo OTA RootKeeper, but this does not work on 4.4 stock ROMs.

Flashing a new ROM does not "keep root" either. When you flash you are completely erasing your current ROM and installing the ROM you are flashing. Most of the custom ROMs (CM, MoKee, etc.) come with root (SuperSU, etc) installed as part of the ROM, it does not keep your root while you flash it. For flashing the OTA leaks, they do not come with root installed - you're just bypassing the OTA step and installing the stock 4.4.2.

If you want root that bad and do not have your bootloader unlocked to flash SuperSU you need to wait patiently until someone finds an exploit to root stock 4.4.2 on our devices.
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
I'm on the 9.30.1 soak update and it runs pretty darned good for me.

Also, if you look in this forum, you'll see my post on how to get tethering back. Yes, it's not as easy as using Sqlite Editor, but there is a "hack" that will bring back tethering in all it's glory.

I actually find that my phone runs much smoother now, especially under ART. I fastbooted back to 9.30.1 before doing the update, but like you, I ran into the same issue with the reboot and back to the Red X Andy logo and pressed everything under the sun to try and get back into recovery.

It wasn't until a few days later that someone on the soak test boards informed me of the Vol-Up + Power combo. I mean, come on.

And of course, it's REALLY hard to read the new recovery as they've darkened it so much. I guess they don't want us doing this in bright light or something. :rolleyes:

But overall, I'm actually finding it to be pretty stable, other than an annoying "pop" sound every now and then (such as when notification sounds come on, locking, unlocking the screen, etc).

But definitely, those with a locked bootloader should probably hold off unless they don't care about root. in that case, they should not care about tethering either because without root, you won't get tethering nor will you be able to unlock your external SD card fully to all apps.
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
Good to hear, is your WiFi working?
[RAZR HD General] BinarySauce:
So wait:

I'm on stock JB 9.30.1, no root, no unlocked bootloader. Is it not possible for me to manually apply the update? Because I don't want to wait for OTA...

So many people want to keep their root/recovery/bootlader/xposed/whatever (I don't care) that I'm confused now...
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
If you have nothing done to your phone (root, unlocked, etc.) you have to wait.
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
I'm 99% sure that that isn't true. He or she should be able to download the 9.30.1 file, sideload, it will update recovery, fail, reboot, go back to recovery, and sideload again. I haven't done this myself, but from my understanding this should work.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Can someone verify this? I was under the impression that one needed to be 1) unlocked or 2) use SafeStrap to flash files.
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
This update uses the stock recovery from motorola. It won't flash in custom recoveries (TWRP, CWM, ETC) that unlocked users typically use. And safestrap only installs 2nd-init roms (aka motorola stock 4.1.2 kernel based roms) the update is the same as the official ota update that is coming out to users.
[RAZR HD General] RCOO:
If i have root (only, no safestrap) will i have any problems to install when my phone tries to intall the OTA?
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
Only if you (or any app you've given root access to) have modified any system files.
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
You can definitely install the 9.30.1 OTA that I posted two or three pages back as long as you are running stock 9.30.1 or have just flashed back to 9.30.1 stock no root but I'd also advise you to read the book on the previous page I wrote about the host of problems I've encountered from installing that OTA. My WiFi is broken as is my Bluetooth I just discovered. I'm guessing I had some kind of radio mishap in flashing.
[RAZR HD General] laspero:
same problem fixed on Razr M

"Coronada is dead" had the same problem as you doing and upgrade on his RAZR M

he RSD back to 4.1.2 and then did the 4.4.2 update correctly and it fixed his wifi/bt problem

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52612248&postcount=136

see this post for the correct method of installation on the Razr M

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52619026&postcount=1
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
If you used saferoot, keeping root with the ota is impossible
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Lol, agreed. It always is when people don't have the patience to wait for the OTA to drop to their phone. BUT... these guinea-sheep are figuring out all the mods that the collective "we" will have to do after upgrading (i.e. - custom recovery, wireless tether hack, etc.) so it should a be a smooth-sailing process in a few days.

"...and for that we thank you" - Daniel Tosh
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
I was able to install the 9.30.1 KitKat leak build, but encountered a ton of errors when attempting to install it with a backup of root. So no root for me. Everything seems to work, I'm just hoping trustzone will be exploitable once again
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
I will definitely look into that link when I have more time but wouldn't it be impossible to fxz back once trust zone, boot, and system img are updated?? And I wasn't impatient for the OTA I received the 9.30.1 directly to my phone and then leaked it everywhere on the net. And this is probably karma biting me in the ass.
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
My guess is that since this is moto/Verizon's last major release, they did a piss-poor job with locking down a very vulnerable phone. Just like kitkat is bastardized.

Shouldn't be long for any dev to pick this apart.
[RAZR HD General] jldr:
Still waiting patiently here until this is all cleared up. I have truly no idea what is going on. I'm staying on a kitkat ROM for now.
[RAZR HD General] Jhall8:
Just recently moved from the Razr Maxx HD. Here's my tribute to my old phone being on 4.4.2, on my LG G2.
[RAZR HD General] Tyler2265:
9.30.1

So let me get this straight. There is absolutely no way to get KitKat early on the RAZR maxx HD on 9.30.1 without rooting?
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
If you have an unlocked bootloader, there is a way for root I think, not entirely sure
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
there is, you just need to find the right update file. its in one of these kitkat threads. look for the update with 9.30.1 in the name.
[RAZR HD General] raymondrbowman:
I have no root and no unlocked bootloader and I followed instructions to update threw stock flash and all is well. I love KitKat so far all works. I also installed Google launcher. Like a new phone!
[RAZR HD General] Crewville96:
Which leak file did you use? I just used RSD Lite to flash stock OS on my phone cause the leaked file I was trying to use wasn't working. After using RSD Lite, I tried to install KK again and it still aborted.
[RAZR HD General] Tyler2265:
Alright...I don't suppose you might be able to help me find it haha... This is a BIG thread.
[RAZR HD General] realbbb:
I had the same issue with the wifi/bluetooth not working. FXZ (take care to remove lines for gpt/tz that can't flash), factory reset, and reapplied all OTA's. All is good again. Goodluck.

BBB

A Tree is Cellular.

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Also had this issue. Had to restore an original recovery-install.sh file. As the OTA patches it. FXZ should fix.

BBB

Door to my Drive.
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
Wow thanks so much for the reply. I took it to Verizon today and they want me to bring it in tomorrow and they'll either give me a Droid Maxx (which I dont want) or order me a new one from a warehouse. Apparently they're out of stock right now on Certified Like New Replacements. If I can just fix mine that'd be ideal... but see I'm on a locked bootloader and am scared to refxz 9.30.1 at this point because I know if I screw up and flash one wrong thing, I'm gonna be stuck in a fastboot bootloop screen with no KitKat Fxz to flash over it, and then I will truly be bricked. It's not that I'm scared of FXZing or even modifying the FXZ cuz hell we always have to do that to take out the GETVAR lines anyway, but what would I need to specifically flash and what would I need to specifically leave out? If you're also on a locked bootloader please tell me exactly what you flashed... I know to leave out GPT and TZ, but what about ABOOT, etc?
[RAZR HD General] BinarySauce:
Which instructions and which file?
[RAZR HD General] raymondrbowman:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2749157

The thread above and I posted the link I used on page two. I was on 9.30 and had safe root. I did loose root and have yet to find anything that works. But KitKat seems worth it. No issues to report as of yet.

Edit: link for KitKat

http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=5
[RAZR HD General] Crewville96:
Thanks for all the info. Got KK up and running :D

I used these instructions - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52602576&postcount=1

and I used this file - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52610188&postcount=11

All last night I tried using the leaked file someone put up from that "slow ass Chinese server" haha. Long story short, it didn't work at all.

This morning I tried again, and nothing. So I tried this file (the one I linked up top) and it worked like a charm. I installed it via recovery, phone rebooted, used vol up + power to get into new KK recovery, applied leaked file again, and boom I got KK.

As someone in another thread said, during the update it does say "Phase 1 possibly complete". WTF is that all about?
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
WIth Wallet. The problem is that AOSP's NFC driver doesn't include Host Card Emulation for the NXP NFC chip. Motorola probably gave us the driver we needed in the binaries from the kitkat update.
[RAZR HD General] boostedcx:
Am I the only one who's eyes lit up when they saw this? Any more information on this?
[RAZR HD General] GilmourD3:
Has anybody running stock, unmodified 9.30.1 gotten the OTA yet?
[RAZR HD General] jewbydoo:
I just received the Razr HD from warranty replacement. I am running completely, cleanly stock 9.30.1. No OTA update as of now.

Would anyone happen to know what determines order in an OTA rollout? As in, how is it decided who gets the update before others? Is it regional?
[RAZR HD General] jewbydoo:
Ah, never mind. I seem to have found the answer to my question.

From David Schuster:
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
Hopefully, you are right. The thing is, several other phones have NXP but not Tap/Pay because I believe they need the AOSP driver.
[RAZR HD General] divxdvd:
emmc:recovery:10485760 has unexpected contents. Installation aborted.

I get the above error when i try to install the 9.30.1 OTA supplied on that google drive in the stock recovery.Could this be caused by safe strap? i uninstalled that recovery and then did a factory wipe. I still get the same error. The RAZR HD is rooted, but with a locked BL. Do i need to attempt to unroot? Anyone else running into this problem.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Fact. This is just the old thread reincarnated.

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Please pass what you're smoking.
[RAZR HD General] MKAMWE:
Here is what I know. I have kitkat from Motorola on my phone and have gotten several versions so far.

I'm guessing the final update could be ready by the end of next week or before the 13th depending on how they judge that things are working with the software.

For me, it is working well.
[RAZR HD General] aviwdoowks:
You are a soak tester?

If not post links to these ROMs you speak of. Thank you.

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Any 4.4 ROMs is the Dev area cannot be considered to have come from Moto.
[RAZR HD General] MKAMWE:
I think what is confusing to some is that this is not the same soak test that has happened in the past,but rather a new program which was announced by Motorola to test the new software before it is in its final state..

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[RAZR HD General] neyes:
I agree. It seems like forever ago (like 7 weeks) since we first heard about the "soak test". I think all of us would have rather had a couple incremental updates improving the performance, as opposed to having to wait 6-7 months for just one. On the other hand, we hate to get a new phone knowing that this update could hold us over for a few more months until Moto drops the X2. I think a combination of all of this (plus our relative impatience) creates the constant need for more information on this update.
[RAZR HD General] bylithium:
Thanks dude, I appreciate on what you're doing!
[RAZR HD General] ckali7:
Getting sick of waiting, about to pull the trigger on the new S5....VZ running a $99 sale!
[RAZR HD General] Alexanderss:
99 bucks and your soul for 2 years, I say wait at leats until the end of May, plus the Note 4, LG G3 and the new Xperia flagship are coming in Q3.
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
"Atrix HD update is making good progress. Unfortunately, I have no new information to provide you with a specific timeline as the update is currently in an earlier stage of testing. VZW 2012 Razr line is imminent. Possible roll-outs as early as the next two weeks as carrier lab testing is wrapping up its final stages of green lighting the update. I'll continue to update the community when more information becomes available for the Atrix HD update."
[RAZR HD General] jldr:
A few weeks turned into over a month....

Well, I guess our patience will pay off.
[RAZR HD General] neyes:
Good news, thanks for the info.
[RAZR HD General] skeevydude:
Good. Glad they've said something about my phone. And it better be going quickly since it's almost identical to the RAZR HD. Hopefully AT&T won't take forever with testing.
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
I've read your posts, you're smart as hell. If AT&T does take a while, I have full confidence you're smart enough to build an Atrix Kitkat rom out of the Razr HD update. Lol
[RAZR HD General] capedukewuhaha:
YES! :)
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
I just received the email last night and went ahead and signed up. Hopefully, I won't lose my unlocked bootloader. I know it's a physical change, but I'm wondering if I should hold off?

Also, I'm currently on stock, but it's been rooted. Nothing has been frozen, but I have added other files and such, as well as having added init.d support, so I'm not sure if the update will take or not.

Worse comes to worse, I did a nandroid backup of unrooted stock, so I could always use TWRP to go back to that.
[RAZR HD General] robdec17:
Anyone with the 2012 Droid Maxx HD get a soak invite?
[RAZR HD General] Zeljko1234:
According this post, you should hold off but you can download update, then capture it from cache, check content, remove dangerous part as bootloader partition and then flash. Or just wait few more days/weeks :)
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Or I can wait until you do exactly this... lol 8)
[RAZR HD General] MKAMWE:
YAY! I'm curious as to what version the soak will be.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Unroot. Try again.
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
Did you modify anything in the /system directory or freeze any apps, etc?

You MUST have the original recovery to install this. And, you won't be able to use Safestrap once on KK since it's compiled to run against JB, so you will be stuck with an unrootable KK and you won't be able to flash any ROMs that are Safestrap enabled.

Also, you will lose root. There is no root for KK and the root you currently have won't carry over. I mention this because you stated you have a locked bootloader. Those with an unlocked bootloader can sideload root with the updated CWM recovery after the upgrade.
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
If you were running safestrap at any point I recommend you FXZ and then update. I never used safestrap on the HD, but on the original razr the only way to take an ota after using it was to FXZ,
[RAZR HD General] xknobi:
If the flashing is possible, it is even more interesting than KK itself. :cowboy:
[RAZR HD General] boostedcx:
I was offered it on my only HD that is on 9.30.1, but I declined as we wait for more information.
[RAZR HD General] divxdvd:
Whats teh difference between sbf and fxz?

can i use this tutorial to revert to the stock firmware? Will that do the same as FXZing it?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2176753
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
Pretty much the same. That tutorial should work as long as you have the sbf file for the software you are on.
[RAZR HD General] ramca20:
Performance Improvement

What have you noticed about performance with this update?
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
Its buttery smooth, I'm getting great battery life, will post battery stats once it's close dying

Sent from my DROID RAZR MAXX HD
[RAZR HD General] esposimi:
Still no OTA update for me, I'm on 9.18.94 currently.
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
Gotta be patient. They don't send it out all at once. Not sure how they do it, if it's by region in the country, etc. It will get to you eventually.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Same.

They typically update everybody, then wait, then send it to me last as an afterthought. Has happened with every other update 8)

The good news is all the kinks will be worked out (like how you found the new hack for the wireless tethering).
[RAZR HD General] wedgess:
Most if not all people on XDA know about CyanogenMod this is not the purpose of the thread, if people want to flash CM then they will. This thread is about official KitKat so lets stick to the topic please.

Thread cleaned
[RAZR HD General] newmanx4:
Still no OTA here yet either.
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
David Schuster, who has kept everyone up to date on the soak and now the OTA, has this to say as of May 12, 2014:

https://plus.google.com/102838570385793445288/posts/ZTjE9pzxkYJ

So, you should see it coming soon.
[RAZR HD General] bill0405:
Just a heads up. No more SD card until we can root?

I've been reading up on kit kat, and it seems that a LOT of people are pissed because they updated to kit kat, and weren't aware that any app they used on the phone that required writing privilages to the SD card will no longer be able to. There are apps that fix this issue, but root is required. I think I may be holding off now until a root is out...unless anyone already has a non-rootable fix I havent read about.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Can someone refresh my memory as to which app(s) this is / these are? Xposed Module preferred, any method desirable.

EDIT: Unlocked bootloader, so root will be possible post-update.
[RAZR HD General] bill0405:
The one I came across was SDFix on app store.
[RAZR HD General] moonrakerone:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2684188 seems promising. I've not yet gone the 4.4 route so can't personally vouch for it.
[RAZR HD General] Al936:
It is here. This archive contains all system files for 4.4.2 KDA20.62-10.1 10 (i.e. after installing latest OTA Blur_Version.9.30.1.XT926.Verizon.en.US.zip). It was prepared using "apply OTA" on PC.
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
Battery stats for day 2 of using the kitkat soak 9.30.1 OTA

Droid RAZR Maxx HD
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Ok, tired of waiting it out, so with an unlocked bootloader and on 9.18.94 (along with some spare time tonight) I'm planning to flash the 9.18.94 file, adb fastboot the new CWM, flash SuperSU v1.94 zip, and recover all my apps, contacts, pics, etc with TiBu.

- Anyone see a problem with that method above? Are "Gallery" and "Contacts" on 4.4.2 the same versions (making it possible to just recover all my contacts and pics with TiBu after all is said and done)?

- Has anyone been able to track down the stock recovery .img file and want to share it with the group? Kind of stuck at step one without the stock recovery lol.

...only issue I can foresee is having to uninstall and delete the backups for the JB specific apps (GravityBox, etc.) prior to the whole process to allow the TiBu app installation or app backup .zip flash to work on KK...
[RAZR HD General] y0himba:
Droid Razr Maxx HD

OTA update is downloading on my phone NOW! KitKat goodness, here I come!
[RAZR HD General] newmanx4:
Downloading here also. Hope this update plus an FDR fixes my problems.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Lol, getting the update as well, you both beat me to it to post the update.

9.18.94 version OTA

Looks like I should have been patient for a couple more hours lol.
[RAZR HD General] y0himba:
I only wish I knew how to capture an OTA.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
If you didn't hit install yet, I think OTA Capture in the app store will do it for ya. I have it as well, I'll see if I can get it (not that it matters at this point - the leak is already out there in the earlier pages in this thread).

...if nothing else it'll give me practice capturing an OTA, creating a torrent, etc.
[RAZR HD General] y0himba:
It's honestly that simple?

Crap, I already hit install. I couldn't wait. Practically let out a "squee". :D
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Lol, yeah I got pumped when I hit "system updates" and it stalled for a while getting the download ready. My mind was like "is this really happening right now?!?!" Lol.

Yeah, I think the capture is that simple. Haven't ever done it (I'm always the last to get any updates and it's a moot point).
[RAZR HD General] steve0617:
Dammit, OTA install is failing

Was rooted, had safestrap installed ages ago. Decided to flash back to total stock using the 1.34 utility earlier tonight. Flashed both options 1 for the OS and 2 for the stock recovery.. Worked fine. Rebooted and did a root check and it said not rooted. Version 9.30. I *think* long before I did any of this, my version was 9.18. But that was 8 months ago so I'm not sure.

Got the OTA notice. Downloads and verifies the files. Reboot to the green android guy with the spinning diamond thingy in his gut. Goes along fine but gets to about 3/4 of the way then reboots/restarts back to the my original JB screen and then just says 'Install failed.' This has now happened twice in a row including the full download occurring twice.

?????

I did read in one of the leaked OTA file instructions to let the Play store apps all update. I cut that off before so I'm letting it finish and I'll try again.

EDIT: Finished updating all the apps. This time, I paid attention to what it's downloading as there's two different versions (confirmed here: http://goo.gl/AIB3eQ )

It's downloading 183.46.10. Could I possibly need 182.46.10 and that's the ONLY version it will install? Perhaps there really is a difference between 9.18 and 9.30 phones? Thus, it's a 9.18 phone that has 9.30 software on it and it's grabbing the wrong file?

EDIT #2: Did it again. After completely downloading the 183 file, it rebooted, ran almost all the way through the process then showed the dead android on his back with the red exclamation point for about 1 second, then rebooted back to the software update failed.

Where do I go from here?
[RAZR HD General] newmanx4:
Liking it so far. Phone is super fast again like when it was new.
[RAZR HD General] xSTRYKERx:
ignore...issue resolved
[RAZR HD General] samwifi:
I have the same exact problem - Any ideas?