yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Lol, thread really exploded over the weekend. I guess a leak dropped for the soak test 8)

I have a few newb-ish questions for anyone willing to take a couple minutes to help me with understanding. Thanks in advance. Questions relate to a rooted, unlocked bootloader phone with 9.18.94 software...

Regarding the recovery... I thought TWRP 2.7.0.0 was written to be able to work with 4.4.2 and our phones, no? Our phones yes, but with 4.4.2 no? I'm guessing that since no recovery is available (unless someone has developed or found a working recovery since I last caught up with the thread) once this is flashed that's it, no going back, correct? Unless (and I'm thinking as I type here) one flashes back to an earlier version OS for our phones, loads a recovery, and restores a previously saved recovery backup...

Flashing the .zip leak brings the phone back to stock "out of the box" type form, correct? How are all you chicks and dudes who have successfully done the flash getting your stuff back (contacts, apps, pics, vids, etc.)? Or is it a situation of "I don't care, I want the 4.4.2 leak ASAP and will forego having all the stuff that was on my phone"?

...Thinking about it, maybe I'll just wait out the few days coming for the OTA to drop. Seems like an easier situation than spending the night attempting to figure this out. So some questions regarding an OTA install:

Recovery question above still applies 8)

Does the OTA auto update apps to their respective KK versions? I'm guessing Xposed modules designed for JB won't auto change over for obvious reasons - do these have to be deleted prior to installing the OTA? Is Xposed going to have to be disabled or uninstalled completely for the OTA to go through correctly?

And a general question - I am on 9.18.94 so there's no problem with the .zip or the pending OTA... but what is the difference with 9.30 software? Attempted a search, didn't find anything definitive.

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That totally sucks, but thanks for the warning. I think you've just made my mind up to wait a little longer (sometime this week?) for the OTA to be pushed out. Good luck in the attempted unbricking. Like you I've saved this phone before when I thought it was a lost cause, but don't really want to put my phone skillz to the test again.
[RAZR HD General] jtommyj:
I'm having the same issue. Moto may have server troubles or something is all I can think of.
[RAZR HD General] jewbydoo:
Breaking and fixing is why android is so fun though. I love it!... When it actually works out.
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
Isn't there 2 builds of KitKat for the HD? And has someone uploaded the 2nd ota?

Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx HD
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Agreed!

Also agreed... the reward of recovering the phone last summer wasn't exactly worth the risk and 12 hours of stress on my daily driver (and only) phone. Wish I had the excess flow of cash for more than one phone to play around on, but such is life lol.

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Yes.

No.
[RAZR HD General] scoobaspeaz:
there is a custom recovery out now for unlocked Xt926's that work with 4.4.2 bootloader. Dhacker posted it here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52564336#post52564336

For everyone trying to catch up...read my walk through on what I had to do to get this to work on Page 13. Keep in mind I have an unlocked bootloader so I had nothing really to fear but fear itself :P

Pretty pictures are on page 14: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52559844&postcount=131
[RAZR HD General] killrhythm09:
Does that recovery only work with the new bootloader? I tried to install it on my phone (which still has CM11 nightly, I haven't tried the leak yet) and it just goes to a black screen.
[RAZR HD General] TXKSSnapper:
Yes, thats why at the top of the thread in big red letters it says "This is ONLY for users that have upgraded to stock KitKat

You must have an unlocked bootloader to use custom recovery"
[RAZR HD General] killrhythm09:
Well I feel stupid now. :(

At least I didn't break anything.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Did you even read the GIGANTIC RED LETTERS at the top of the thread with the new CWM?
[RAZR HD General] sunkim50:
Give the guy a break.... I did the same thing cuz I was over excited. Lol.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Oh lawd, there's two of you out there... lol
[RAZR HD General] sunkim50:
Except I read the big red letters after the blank screens on the recovery. =P
[RAZR HD General] RNB32:
Does anyone have the 9.18.79 update that I can sideload?
[RAZR HD General] tenchi19134:
Attempting to create flash file for locked BL

If anyone can upload a backup of a freshly installed update for the KitKat OTA that would be great.

I'm attempting to create an RSD flashable file for those who still have a locked bootloader.
[RAZR HD General] scoobaspeaz:
You need to make sure you update the bootloader or the new 4.4.2 update won't work. Are you going to include that too in your flashable update? ;)
[RAZR HD General] tenchi19134:
I'll be merging files from the captured update file (including boot) and hopefully a backup to attempt to create this file.

Worst case, I permanently brick my phone. Best case, I create a working flash. :D

I'm retiring this device regardless.
[RAZR HD General] progrockguy:
24 hours later...

*Sigh* .... I'm not even going to say it.

// for you unlocked & rooted KK users, we'd really appreciate a full system dump. Since CWM nandroid is apparently not working, there's an alternative method here: [GUIDE] Making Dump Files Out of Android Device Partitions
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
You're right my man, you deserve thanks as well. Thanks for the warning to stay away 8)
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
So.. Let me get this straight.. Once you get the new bootloader, you can use CWM and even go back to CM11? Or, are you stuck with this until CM is updated for the new bootloader?
[RAZR HD General] SCFirefighter:
So has anyone done this yet? If not, I would be willing to do that this morning. I'm unlocked and it won't be much of an issue for me to RSD back to stock, and apply the zip. I won't be personalized. It'll just be a dump of a post FDR.

If there is still a need for this let me know, and I'll get it, and put it up as a torrent.

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Someone please correct me, but my understanding is if you're unlocked then you're free to do whatever you want. I believe CWM backs up your bootloader too, so you can always just restore your backup as long as you're able to get a custom recovery loaded after you apply the update. (Which, if you're unlocked, you can).
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
Yes, I would like it, or you can pull all the NFC files out and zip em' up. Like to see what I can do about tap and pay
[RAZR HD General] scoobaspeaz:
If you update you will have the new bootloader. You will need the new cwm. You can use cm still if you want. If you don't update you then use the old cwm and you can use cm if you want.
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
And I'm guessing that I'll have to switch to cwm then do a backup then upgrade then switch back to cwm and restore the backup I made after I get the NFC files.
[RAZR HD General] SCFirefighter:
http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=5 does not contain the much needed VRZ_XT926_9.8.1Q-94-1_CFC.xml RSD firmware, so I started a torrent for it.

Please seed. Here is my magnet link
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
What we need is an Index thread over on the developers forum. This thread blew up over the weekend and information and links are scattered all through it.

This magnet link doesn't bring up any peers?
[RAZR HD General] SCFirefighter:
It should work. I'm initial-seeding it. Not sure what the deal is. I'm seeding other torrents just fine.
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
10 minutes, no peers, still
[RAZR HD General] hachamacha:
I get peers, it looks fine. I'm not interested in installing but will get it just in case I can learn anything from the download. Thanks.
[RAZR HD General] SCFirefighter:
I see two peers downloading. Thanks! Just keep seeding until someone picks it up and perhaps saves it somewhere with a bigger pipe.

ETA: I'm getting ready to go to full stock so I can share the system and other data from the FDR of 4.4.2
[RAZR HD General] drkdeath5000:
Will this update by chance change anything for those of us with locked bootloaders? Possibly greater rom support with safestrap or better still a method of unlocking the bootloader?
[RAZR HD General] kabaldan:
Hmm, I've downloaded it from there few days ago without issue. It's the bottom 9.30.1 link.
[RAZR HD General] Zeljko1234:
With locked bl, I would recommend to wait for official OTA. I didn't see that even root is available and without it sd card access is limited.

Actually did anyone try to write to sd card after upgrade with apps installed from market?
[RAZR HD General] kabaldan:
If I understand it correctly, the update nukes the device tree partition on which our old 3.0 kernel depends. That's why old recovery won't boot. And I expect CM to fail the same way. And gpt can't be downgraded even if your bootloader is unlocked. So I guess you won't be able to run CM after the update, until a build based on 3.4 kernel source will be ready.
[RAZR HD General] SCFirefighter:
Yes, mea culpa on that one. I knew I got that file from somewhere, and I knew I wasn't special enough to get it sent to me by Motorola :P

I just couldn't remember where I found it, and the naming standards for the links on that site just confused me. That's what I get for not taking another minute and checking the download link more closely.

You're right. The bottom link IS the one I am also seeding. Thanks.

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Ok, that stops me dead in my tracks. I was going to go from CM to stock so I could get a system dump and other requested files. However, if I won't be able to go BACK to CM I'm not making that move. I'll leave it someone who isn't currently running CM, or has no plans to go back anytime soon.
[RAZR HD General] m_torresagasti:
hi people.. i just found this post on the forum, and i think it's important.. it's about how to update from 9.30 firmware :) http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2749157&nocache=1
[RAZR HD General] nor_light:
And I did the same - my phone is software bricked and I am trying to google how to fix it :) Not so fun after a couple of hours...
[RAZR HD General] bweN diorD:
why cant the gpt be downgraded? did they do something to prevent it?

i made a tool to re-write the gpt pre-kk for those who had messed up partitions and it re-writes them no problem.
[RAZR HD General] hachamacha:
Yeah: I think I was mentioning the "Locking down of Android in the post-kitkat era" earlier on in this thread. It is likely not even just Motorola / Kitkat but perhaps many other vendor's with 4.4.2 that contains the official bootloader (and it's really not "just" the official bootloader but other security additions as well). It seems the easy-going Galaxy Nexus days of being just about unbrickable are over, at least to the less-than-infinitely careful user. I've found some ways to avoid getting into a mess with the Moto X which is somewhat of a nightmare in this regard, but it's safer to say that downgrading is just taking a chance so I don't encourage people to mess up their devices.

I understand why someone needs to install OTA kitkat for our (XDA and all the forums) collective needs for drivers, radios, and whatever things don't work well in the 4.4.2 ROM world, but maybe it's time for a lot of people to think twice about using their primary phone for these purposes. I usually only have one at any time, but I happen to have two right now. One is a Moto X, rooted, unlocked, and I feel like it's a ticking bomb because of the KK bootloader changes. The other is the xt926 and I suspect heavily that it's going in the same direction where there is no more easy downgrade ability, in fact, a downgrade from the stock bootloader can do your phone in.

I'm pretty sure someone will publish a set of steps to go through so as not to wind up in trouble so much, but taking that step will nearly guarantee that they will be noticed by the manufacturers and nullified so I would hesitate to just toss out any solutions you think you may have. Anyway, if you're not finding enough scary tales of bricking over here, go to the Moto X (or really almost any forum where official KitKat is in use) and see how much of this stuff is happening.
[RAZR HD General] kabaldan:
[MENTION=4513258]scoobaspeaz[/MENTION] [MENTION=4427492]ATTACK[/MENTION] Just a friendly reminder. I'm still looking forward to a system dump. Thanks in advance.
[RAZR HD General] msassounian:
Question from someone trying to understand a little bit about the ROM process...

What does the release of kitkat firmware for our device do for the building of cyanogenmod (for example)? Will they change their source code?
[RAZR HD General] HoochieCoo:
Motorola will have to release the kernel code, but that will probably be some time. That will get our CM distro up to the latest kernel (assuming someone wants to go to the effort to work on it).

Nearer term, CM could pull the latest binary blobs and use that.

Sent from my DROID RAZR HD
[RAZR HD General] msassounian:
and what does that mean functionally for us using those ROMs? does that improve the stability of the ROMs or anything like that?
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
Whered are the firmware keys located in the file system?
[RAZR HD General] SCFirefighter:
Having the ability to recompile the Motorola kernel allows us flexibility with drivers. If they included newer faster or more accurate reading drivers with this KK release, our old kernel will most likely not be able to use them.

A build, without a new kernel, will be a hybrid of older (current) drivers with newer other KK components, where compatible. It complicates a build somewhat.

Having the kernel code allows our devs to have a cleaner KK build that potentially performs better as well.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Official OTA roll out is... um... rolling out. Who got the OTA so far?
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
Where have you heard this?
[RAZR HD General] Les Cayes:
I guess from here:

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...-to-full-release-razr-m-also-receives-update/
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
I first saw it was happening this afternoon in a DroidLife blog (wish I could give the link or even the guy who kept the blog).

EDIT: Found it http://www.droid-life.com/tag/razr-hd/

Then I came to XDA and saw the article on the main page. I'd give you that link as well, but it should be easy enough to find ;)
[RAZR HD General] billycar11:
can i sbf/fxz to 9.8.1Q-94 if im on 9.30.1? i have a locked boot loader

because i cant update even with the update for 9.30.1 because i sbfed to 9.30.1 after i bricked and that was my only option.

this is safe i tried it
[RAZR HD General] abuttino:
That was a fast soak. Why did they even bother? I am just unhappy about the way this turned out. No dialer, no kitkat goodies. Why did they even upgrade it? The most that came of it was tap n pay. Bet Verizon/isis is happy about that (not)...

Hopefully a stock ROM comes out that mixes the dialer and other goodies with tap n pay.

I would love to get my hands on the NFC framework.
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
Locked bootloader and was able to get the recovery installed from KitKat

Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx HD
[RAZR HD General] newmanx4:
No OTA here yet in West Tennessee.
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
No OTA here either

Sent from my Droid RAZR Maxx HD
[RAZR HD General] ofmb:
1. Did someone try the new update with GSM network? Any problems?

2. Did someone install Xposed? Success?
[RAZR HD General] Zeljko1234:
Officially OTA (not winter) is coming :)

https://plus.google.com/+DavidSchuster/posts/ZTjE9pzxkYJ
[RAZR HD General] jldr:
By the old gods and the new....
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
Actually, ART is a big improvement over Dalvik. The responsiveness is very noticeable. So much snappier and smoother. That alone is worth the upgrade. That is a big KitKat goodie. The dialer and stuff I'm sure will be available as add-ons from someone out there. That, or you wait until a ROM is released.

But, the upgrade is worth it, believe me. I've been testing it and ART alone makes it all worth it.

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I don't have GSM, but I did install Xposed and it works like a charm, along with GravityBox for KK.

Just make sure you get the latest Xposed framework that works under KK and some modules have JB and KK versions, so get the KK version (like GravityBox).

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No, you can't. Due to the locked bootloader, you won't be able to.

However, the soak is pretty much done and the OTA should be coming out soon to everyone, so you will receive it soon.

However, if you currently have root under 9.30, you might want to hold off accepting it until you can confirm if there is a root option available.

Also, KK fixes the Sqlite tethering hack, so you have to use a different method to get tethering working again. In another thread I created (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2749659) I point to a solution that was made for the Droid Ultra, but it works for the Droid RAZR HD/MAXX HD as well. But, you must have root in order for this to work.
[RAZR HD General] zachariahpope:
For all my 9.30.1 people, I love you guys too.http://pan.baidu.com/s/1eQimdea

Enjoy that official KK ota for 9.30.1 over that slow ass chinese server and stop trying to get the 9.18.94 to work.
[RAZR HD General] boostedcx:
My RAZR HD that is on 9.30.1 was offered the OTA last night, but I declined. There is too much unknown about this update. Mainly, rootability and the GSM hack. Does anyone have an update on either of these? Thanks.
[RAZR HD General] MKAMWE:
Wow no respect for the process making sure that things were running well and that there were not major issues. The software was tested by some for several weeks with there being some earlier versions of the software. ART is worth it in my opinion because it makes the software much snappier and smoother. The soak was probably just the final confirmation that things were working well and the software was good to go.
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
Exactly. There are some minor annoyances (a popping noise just before sounds start such as notifications, etc), but overall, it's a pretty nice send-off for this phone. ART definitely makes a difference. I can attest to that.
[RAZR HD General] Zeljko1234:
Does Xposed framework work now with ART?!

Edit: Is it sd card writable in stock KK for Razr by apps downloaded from market?
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
I don't know about that. It seems to be working just fine for me but I've also applied a patch that opens up the external SD card to writing like it did under JB.
[RAZR HD General] cmh714:
Nope. Still doesnt work.....
[RAZR HD General] Zeljko1234:
So you use xposed and art together?
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
Yup. Been doing it since last night. I can try turning off the external SD card hack to see what happens, but with the hack, it works just fine.

I have Gravity Box for KK installed and it works without any issues.
[RAZR HD General] cmh714:
From http://www.androidruntime.com/list

Listed as Not Working.

From the developer of Xposed himself:

http://forum.xda-dev...&postcount=8427
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
Are you running the latest version of Xposed? It's working just fine for me with ART enabled on my phone.
[RAZR HD General] hbenz2008:
any Fido xt925 getting OTA? thanks
[RAZR HD General] iBolski:
Well, now I have been proven wrong. DUH!

Apparently, it reverts me back to Dalvik. I verified this and saw that I'm no longer under ART. Crap.

Oh well, it's still running pretty smooth under Dalvik.

Thanks for the links. I had just assumed it was still under ART after I rebooted.

That's a complete bummer.
[RAZR HD General] Zeljko1234:
Screenshots or no soup for you :D
[RAZR HD General] davidjames4:
I signed up to be a soak tester and I have the Fido XT925 but nothing here.

I have been through all of the pages but no one has really made mention to how long it will take for the 925 to get the update.

One person a few pages back said that none of the other carriers have taken the update yet or something like that...

I guess someone will have to research the Jellybean threads and see how long it took the other carriers to get the ball rolling after verizon.

Edit: Just checked it out and if it follows suit to JB... Verizon roughly got their JB update first week of Dec 2012 and Rogers/Fido got their update the last week of Jan 2013 :(
[RAZR HD General] Zeljko1234:
If you have unlocked bootloader, just wait for kernel source and our precious developers will make unified CM11 for your and other compatible phones.
[RAZR HD General] divxdvd:
Have any of you received OTA update with safe strap recovery installed?

I use safe strap with Nexesque 4.1.2 but it sounds like a bad idea because it sounds like the update breaks root. It would be very awesome to keep safe strap with an updated kernel to use all the 4.4 roms that only work with unlocked bootloaders.

Thanks for your response in advance...
[RAZR HD General] skeevydude:
For SafeStrap, and I'm assuming you like flashing roms and have a locked bootloader....your best bet is to hold off on the update, hope they find a root exploit, and then they develop SS for KK. This is one of those "if you do it, there's no turning back" kind of things. There's also a chance that just having SS installed can mess up the installation of 4.4.2. For what it's worth, once root is found it shouldn't be that hard for them to port over the SafeStrap that the Droid Ultra and/or Moto X uses.

I gotta ask, does anyone here that installed the new KitKat update have a Lapdock? And if you do, does it work or how does it perform? Thanks in advance. I've been really curious about 4.4.2 and if the Lapdock will work again.
[RAZR HD General] ---UFO---:
If anyone is interested, I have uploaded boot.img and build.prop from XT926 Kitkat here:

KKXT926-boot_build.7z

If you want any other files here is small tutorial:

1. Grab 9.30.1 sbf from here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=5

2. Grab ota to KK from here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52610188&postcount=11

3. Extract system.img.ext4 from sbf and convert it to usable format using this tutorial: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46870749&postcount=1

4. apply ota to files from system.img using this tutorial: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=41058441&postcount=1

5. Thats it.

ATTENTION: You won't get any bootable rom this way. It is only for Devs.
[RAZR HD General] Playb3yond:
Is there anyway to keep root with this method? That's something I just can't do without
[RAZR HD General] krystianp:
I've noticed that trustzone kernel from ota to KK (step 2) uses old methods in smc handler. So if it can be flashed then it should be exploitable using Dan's solution.
[RAZR HD General] LifeAsADroid:
Very long yes, but perhaps will help a brother or sister out in the near future. I haven't updated as of yet due to all the problems the impatients are having and have decided to wait for the OTA to come out. Also hoping that by taking the OTA it'll just integrate my current apps, contacts, etc as opposed to flashing and going back to out-of-the-box stock 4.4.2. On JB though, I can verify that I have had the same battery holes experience you are having... specifically going from 20% to 15% to 3%. It doesn't happen all the time, but it does happen. I've also noticed that my phone heats up tremendously at random, even when I'm not doing anything on it, and doesn't seem to cool down unless I reboot the phone completely (almost as though there are a ton of background processes running all at once). Haven't figured that one out yet either.