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[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
No time to post actually... Lots of cool stuff there!

Las Vegas has Cingular 3G coverage but 110,000 geeks hammered it pretty hard. Consequently I was jumping between 3G and 2G coverage often. I also exercised my BT stack pretty hard with my wireless kbd and A2DP during the show. Direct push was on full time and I was also live on Office Communicator. I was pulling email from 2 other accounts as well. All in all, quite the torture test...

Anyway, things worked pretty well. Maybe one soft reset a day when things just locked up. This generally happened while I was emailing show pics to folks while listening to my BT headset. The issue was BT frequency hopping because there was just so much of it in use on the floor. At times I would just (literally) run out of spectrum and A2DP would skip badly then I'd lock up after doing an online lookup for a contact name. I had a few camera issues too where the backlight would go to the "bright" setting and the menubar would say "camera" but the camera app itself wouldn't come up.

All in all, my TyTN performed great. Each evening back at the hotel, I ran my laptop through BT DUN to 3G and was getting a decent 320kb/s. This connection was a bit more quirky. A successful connection required patience and frequent resets. From a battery performance perspective, I'd go about 6 hours on a charge. With my spare battery in my pocket, I had power to spare. The dual charger was key though. Well worth the investment. What a workhorse my TyTN was.... 3G makes all the difference to this device. At 2G its about the same as my 8125 was but HSDPA opens up a can of whoop-ass.

Lot's of cool stuff on the floor. Moto has a new A2DP headset the S9. Very small form factor and fully waterproof. Availability s/b 2Q07 with an srp of $129. No crossbow on the floor anywhere though. I even used a friend's press credentials to get into the M$ press tent and nothing there either (except one heck of a cool press kit).

Anyway, I've got pics to download tonite then I'll post a bit more....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] anderson a:
I recently appeared to have the same problem. I want to use sooo much my Noviiremote program! Have you contacted the Novii support team with this question?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
You will be sorely disappointed by the IR range on a Hermes. 1-2 meters at most.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] nisbetmh:
How about an update?

Noticed you haven't posted here in awhile. It would be good to find out your latest opinions on what you are running and why? I am debating on upgrading to the latest cingular 2.06 ROM or a cooked WM6. Found your notes useful when I first got my TyTN and discovered this site. Thanks in advance :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] ach2:
Get over to the main Hermes Forums page http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=254 You'll see that Sleuth and others have been VERY active recently - particularly in the 2 sub-forums:

Windows Mobile 6 http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=355

and

Hermes upgrading etc. http://xdaforums.com/forumdisplay.php?f=306
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] nisbetmh:
Yeah I have been browsing (hence my original quandry above - WM6 or Cingy 2.06). . but as you know this forum has gotten to be a monster and Sleuth's Notes were a good place for some consolidated information as well as his opinions on what he was running which I thought was useful.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cian_mac:
Hi Sleuth,

Do you know if SetWindowsHookEx is available in WM6? I'm having some problems getting it to work - I'm accessing it via P/Invoke from C# code, and the failure code I'm getting from GetLastError() is 6 - ERROR_INVALID_HANDLE. Only one Handle is passed as a parameter in SetWindowsHookEx, and this is retrieved by GetModuleHandle(null). My code follows the example in : http://blog.opennetcf.org/ayakhnin/PermaLink,guid,84b95802-76d7-499c-b266-e2251ab15706.aspx

and it worked fine for WM5.

If this is not available on WM6, do you of some other similar technique?

Thanks,

Cian.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] URPREY:
I'd love to find out if the Apache battery will work. In comparing mine to the pics of the TyTN battery they look the same, but without dimensions it's hard to know for sure. That would be nice if I do decide to switch providers and purchase the TyTN. If only Cingular's data plan wasn't so expensive!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
I'm certain the Apache battery is the same thing. In fact, I'll be ordering one of the Seidio 1500mah XV6700 batteries when I get my replacement TyTN just to test it out.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] URPREY:
Good news! I have two regular and 1 extended battery already :D
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Rougenator:
@ Sleuth255

Did you allready tested the batteries (Seidio 1500mah XV6700 or the Apache?) Which extended battery are you gonna test? Do the do theire job? Longer battery live?

New topic mabye?

Let us know!! Please...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
not yet. I won't have my replacement TyTN until next week.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] eeter:
EDGE on the TyTN is supposed to be faster than the 8125. It has a new feature called Extended TBF Release which improves the overall throuput
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
So that's why I was seeing significantly improved Edge performance when I did a side by side comparison with my 8125! Tks for that info eeter!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
Here's an update on my return. My supplier, phonesource-usa, shipped my replacement about a week ago and its due for delivery tomorrow. All in all, the replacement process has taken 3-4 weeks, this mostly due to shipping times. Phonesource-usa turned around my defective TyTN in about a week and a half. Given the short supply of TyTNs available to the US this wasn't bad at all; in fact Christian at phonesource-usa shipped my replacement within two days of actually receiving his own shipment from HTC.

More tomorrow when I begin working with the new device...
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
Well, my replacement TyTN arrived on time today. It's serial number is in the HT620 series. This one has no keyboard issues and the flash works fine too :D

So far, everything's working just fine.

Now its off to the reloading. I've decided not to install from backup so I am slowly placing my apps back on. Tomorrow I'll get back to bluetooth testing and will install my kbd driver, pair with my car handsfree and load up the A2DP reghacks.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] goestoeleven:
620 series or 630? My replacement is supposedly arriving tomorrow as well... hoping to avoid a relapse on the stupid stylus front, as well as any keyboard/screen alignment issues.

I also intend to rebuild from scratch... Are you sticking with the latest TyTN ROM or are you going to try the one from i-Mate?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
oops... fat-fingered that last post :oops: its an HT630 series...

Additionally, I've set up all the latest A2DP reghacks and still no joy. It's better, but still has unacceptable breakup. I'm using the stock HTC rom build btw. I'm now debating whether to try the latest iMate ROM or wait for a bit for the TyTN update from HTC which is rumored (based on posts here) to be released any day now. It could also be something to do with my headset though. I noticed a lot more noise on my 8125 when I went back to it while waiting for my replacement TyTN to arrive. I'm using the HP iPaq headset which is also sold by Logitech. Has anybody here had mostly skip-free success with this headset and the TyTN? If so, what ROM are you using?

I have not seen the Cingular roaming indicator issue crop up yet. My previous TyTN started doing this after a few days of use IIRC. In itself, this statement doesn't make much sense if one subscribes to the "blue towers do it" theory.

I've also ordered the XV6700 extended battery from this site. When it arrives I'll test it out on my TyTN and report back. If this battery is compatible, it'll provide 11% longer battery life.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
Just placed an order for the same battery. I read on Howardforums that it does fit so shouldnt be a problem.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] goestoeleven:
My replacement also arrived today (also a 630 series). Still rebuilding, but so far no keyboard or screen problems. I'm very sensitive to the stylus silo issue, and it won't surprise me at all if it happens again...

stay tuned!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gravejoker:
A question to all HTC owners in the United States

What kind of Warranty is available to the devices that you have bought from different resellers? Is it like an international warranty or no warranty at all?

Will any screen issues be covered by Warranty?

- JoKer
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
Out of all the US importers only smart-mobile-gadgets claims their phones will be serviced ny HTC USA and will be covered by a 2-year warranty. All others are a bit vague regarding how they handle warranty claims and what will be involved in getting the TyTN serviced. Try an email to each r posting on Howardforums where most seem to post.

Edit: one thing to note, two US importers have been banned from Hofo (no reason given) so an email to each seller will probably be the best bet.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gravejoker:
Thanks efjay. I think the list is pretty much narrowed down to phonesource-usa, madmonkeyboy and smart-mobile-gadgets at this time.

By the way, who were the sellers that were banned from hofo?

- JoKer
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gravejoker:
Sleuth255, goestoeleven

How long had you had your phones before returning it to phonesource-usa due to screen alignment issues? Are you still having this issue with the new handsets that you have received?

- JoKer
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] goestoeleven:
I've never had a screen alignment issue. My original device was returned because of the stylus silo problem, which started after about 1 week of use.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
phonesource and smart-mobile-gadgets are the ones i know of - phonesource i noticed when i did a search for his posts as i was looking for a particular post; smart-mobile-gadgets had a thread which gave details of a discount price for the TyTN. Soon after that the thread disappeared and i read in another thread he had been banned for advertising.

I would recommend smg - because of the HTC warranty, even though i got mine from phonesource.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] goestoeleven:
MadMonkeyBoy has by far the best reputation of the bunch.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
I agree - but to my knowledge SMG is the only one with official HTC USA support. That may mean the difference between sending the unit to Europe and waiting weeks for a repair compared to days if dealt with by US support. Why i suggested contacting each retailer for their support details.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] goestoeleven:
supposedly they all now have agreements to have devices serviced by HTC America in Houston, so that is not a differentiator.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] gravejoker:
What about getting the device swapped?

- JoKer
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
Well, thats news to me, havent seen that posted anywhere. Thats good news for all then.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
Well, so far this TyTN's been working fine. I've not had an occurrence of the "lockup during overnight charge" on this one yet. It does exhibit the known bugs tho:

A2DP skips badly and the stream stops altogether when you go to powersave mode.

Audio stutter when you press pause then play again on TCPMP. This issue doesn't affect WMP btw

ATI Imageon video acceleration issues.

the infamous Cingular roaming triangle

So what's good then?

Much improved audio on the phone side IMO.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
Well lookey here!

On my original TyTN I had an issue with WMP when I attempted to use my A2DP headset. The audio stream never was re-directed to my headset in WMP when it was active; in fact my TyTN would often completely lock up or music would simply continue to play out the built-in speaker if I attempted to play music while the headset was paired. I never had an AVRCP issue though so I knew something was being recognized.

Now, however, WMP works just fine with full AVRCP support. Additionally, it seems to skip a lot less! Its actually usable through my HP headset.

WTF? :shock:

edit:

Ok, here's the answer: WMP streams mp3 through A2DP just fine, but AAC (m4a) files go out the speaker :shock: :shock:

... are we starting to get the feeling that HTC crammed the TyTN right by the QA process as they rushed it to market???

Also, how to improve the skipping: if it starts getting bad, press pause over AVRCP then press play again. :roll: Interestingly, my TyTN doesn't stutter the audio stream when I do this if I'm using raw framebuffer instead of Imageon based decoding. This is interesting because I thought these "Video" settings in TCPMP didn't affect audio....

edit2:

nevermind, the fix had nothing to do with rawframebuffer. I'm still trying to recreate the circumstances under which I was able to fix the stutter in TCPMP. I haven't been able to do this yet....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
No screen alignment issues with mine either. I had some bad keyboard keys and the flash didn't work. I had mine for 3 days before I returned it. 3 day defective replacement was the terms of phonesource-usa's eBay return policy. I don't know what their web based return policy is though.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
Good to hear about the improvement with your TyTN Sleuth255. Is it running a newer rom or the same version available now?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
I'm still running the stock TyTN rom because I'm trying to determine any hardware related differences between the HT628 and HT630 series.

Along these lines, the keyboard on my new TyTN locks open on both sides.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] reddog:
1500 mAh Slim Extended Battery

Sleuth255, have you received the extented battery yet? Is it working? How more run time do you get?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
It shipped yesterday via priority mail. I have no idea how long it will take to arrive, but I'll be sure to keep everybody posted when I get it!
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
More A2DP work:

I've loaded the free taskmgr (link earlier in this thread) and there's no processor utilization change when an audio stream is active. However, I've already guessed that the offending process is actually a device driver or service and this (brilliant app btw) taskmgr doesn't show proc on devices or services. TCPMP worked all morning without any trace of the pause stutter too. I'm still trying to determine what combination causes (or removes) this bug.

WiFi w/A2DP.

Turning on WiFi does indeed cause an interruption in the audio stream, but restarting TCPMP cures it. I don't believe we have a hardware issue here; rather its related to A2DP priority issues that may underly the rest of the issues. I'm really thinking that a ROM update (either the one that's due out any day now or an AKU3 update) will fix these issues.

That being said... a shoutcast stream breaks up badly when I use WiFi but works just fine when I'm using GPRS. This isn't hardware though, becuase if the WiFi and BT radios interfered with each other, A2DP and WiFi would never work together. ie: I couldn't browse over WiFi while using A2DP w/o breakup.

Also, when listening to a shoutcast stream my TyTN doesn't slow down like it does when listening to local stored music.... interesting....
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
Re: Extended battery

My 1500 mAh Seidio extended battery has arrived and it does fit the TyTN though it is a slightly tighter fit as it seems to be a bit thicker, say 1mm making the cover bulge a bit more than usual. Depending on the finish of your particular battery this may not always be the case. It still has over 60% charge on it so im going to run it down before givng it an overnight charge and see what improvement in running time it gives. At the very least it will serve as a spare battery and will work very nicely with this cradle http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?code=140292.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
hmmm... I never considered thickness. I compared my TyTN battery to a friend's Apache and they were identical. There must be more room under the Apache battery cover which is what gave them the ability to produce an increased capacity battery in the first place.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
The thing with the Seidio battery is it feels slightly "padded" compared to the standard battery - the side facing upwards when the battery is fitted - whereas the standard battery feels firm and flat. So the battery door is lifted slightly more than with the standard battery installed. Interestingly lionbatter now lists their 1500 battery as being compatible with the Hermes, wonder if that will fit better. http://www.lionbattery.com/description.php?noproduit=318
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] reddog:
TCPMP Media Player 081RC1-Beta

I was up late one night and I found this link for TCPMP 0.81RC1-Beta not sure if anyone wants it or not here it is.

http://story.cetizen.com/akebi/entry/TCPMPMediaPlayer081RC1-Beta
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
ok. My Seidio battery arrived today and here's the mod:

btw: I'm one of the original Tungsten T3 modders so you can trust me on this. I actually crammed a Worley 1200maH battery into one of these classic PDAs (stock battery was 900maH) for a 30% performance gain....

The battery is a bit too thick but its easily fixed. First, peel the black Sedio cover off. It's like a wide piece of electrical tape with tabs on the end. When you look at the battery you'll see that this is quite easy to do. Don't tear it when you perform this operation though because you'll need it later! Underneath, you'll see a reddish colored pad. Peel this off too and discard. Underneath is the actual battery and protection circuit. Now simply stick the sedio cover back on and voila! Battery fits just about perfectly! Don't worry, there's nothing that can be shorted out. In fact, you could leave the Sedio cover off too but it looks better if you stick it back on...

Mine's charging now.

@reddog: thanks for the link. I'm looking at this release now. I'd heard there were a few "rogue" release candidates that were dispersed on the internet before it was turned over to core for commercial release. Nice catch! It would be impressive if this one had AVRCP.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
here's a quick update on the (major) new tcpmp version that reddog posted a link to.

New icon! (whoop-de-doo)...

ATI Imageon TyTN issues: no change

works just fine with the (now pirate) TCPMP AAC plugin

there's a few more setup menus that I'm looking at now.

BT stuff comes tomorrow because I left my headset at work damnit! :roll:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
Thats exactly what i did but it still doesnt fit as well as the OEM one. So i'll be using the Seidio strictly as a backup. Had my first full day with it today and cant really tell if there it lasts any longer, maybe just a tad.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
@efjay you're right, it's not perfect, but almost. The cover bows out almost imperceptably. A couple of thousandths or so IMO. At any rate, its good enough for me if the battery runs 10% better. This would put it into the 3 day range for me, or a full two days with pretty heavy use. I'm also betting the slight bow will disappear over time too. Did you try it w/o the sedio tape?
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
No, I still have the tape on. i'm actually wondering if the Lionbattery one will be different. It's pretty marginal as you say but I prefer the OEM for now. I will see if it does get better with time.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
I'll be using mine through 3 full charge/discharge cycles for sure since the battery life will increase over the first few cycles to its normal level. Then I'll be able to make an accurate determination of whether its noticably better or not.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] cam05:
Sleuth I think you should consider testing the A2DP with some different headsets

BTW, keep up the good work! :-) Your notes on A2DP are much appreciated
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] low405:
Seconded.

Over the weekend I purchased an I-Tech S35 and along with the tweaks to the registry provided in this tread the playback is perfect.

I was previously using a Motorola HT820 on which I was experiencing skipping.

Oddly enough I also got myself a Sony Ericsson V630i (K610i) over the weekend and the results were the oposite. At least I've ended up with with working A2DP on both though!

Phil
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
I'm beginning to believe myself that the skipping is headset specific. I'll have to hunt down an I-Tech clip (may be difficult here in the US) and try it out. Maybe it does some internal buffering of the A2DP stream to eliminate skips. For sure the HP (logitech) and Moto headsets (very popular among Wizard users) experience this issue and there doesn't appear to be a workaround that's not ROM update related.

@efjay: what bluetooth headset are you using? You have also reported skip-free A2DP.

Back to TCPMP: 0.81RC1 doesn't do AVRCP, nor does it recognize when an A2DP connection is made. By this, I mean that, like v0.71, it doesn't automatically switch the stream if its already loaded when you initiate an A2DP connection. Additionally, it appears to lose album art (screen goes blank) along with the title bar. All in all, I consider this version to be a step back from 0.71RC1. I guess we're gonna have to wait for Core's official release around the end of Sept. to see some real improvements in this player.

Also: bottom line on the battery.

I put my 1350 back in. I want my TyTN to be perfect and even the small bow in the back cover became aggravating over an amazingly short period of time. Its perfectly functional but if you're the least bit AR about your new TyTN then look elsewhere for a 1500maH replacement. Someone should try out the Lionbattery cell which is specifically advertized to fit the TyTN. My Like efjay, my seidio battery has become my backup.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
@Sleuth255, I have the Nokia HS-12W. Agree on the extended battery, just didnt "feel" right. But Ok for emergencies.
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] Sleuth255:
If I may ask, where in the US did you find that headset efjay? :shock:
[8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General] efjay:
I got it from Mobileplanet.com http://www.mobileplanet.com/product.asp?code=121010. Expensive but so far it has been worth it.