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[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I've played N5, I have a frd own it. It's a good phone, I've played the camera, this time the Nexus cam is good too. The phone is slim design a bit similar to LG G2, it is just about the size of M7 though N5 is 5" screen.

However, Google now seems only gives Nexus 18 months update cycle and I'm afraid not enough til Android 5.0 to out. Though there should be a lot devs will working on it after 18 months but this is not guaranteed because Nexus6 is dropped and it will replace by Google Silver and Project Ara. I guess many devs will move out this time. So, if you still like HTC I will prefer just go for M7.
[HTC One S] dd98:
I like both phones but I cant get over M7s design so i’ll be off to buy it
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
LG put a 5.5" screen in a phone the same size as the M8?
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Not from what I seen and if it was true there be no bezel.
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
Yeah actually it's 4mm wider according to GSM Arena, same height though. Don't get me wrong, I would still buy the M8 everytime, but it shows what a good job design wise LG has done with the G3.

HTC M8: 146.4 x 70.6 x 9.4 mm

LG G3: 146.3 x 74.6 x 8.9 mm
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Only 4mm dam the pic I see I could easily tell it was bigger.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4531/177405/1/

G3 and M8 side by side comparison. Yep, only 4mm wider because G3 used super slim edge but then it's hard to hold on hand actually you'll need to buy a case for it, so ended up it won't be just 4mm.
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
HTC One E8 Announced

Size.....................146.42 x 70.67 x 9.85 mm

Weight.................145 grams

Display.................5-inch, 1080p

CPU.....................Quad-core Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 at 2.5 GHz in Asia/China, 2.3 GHz in other regions

Software...............Android 4.4.2 with Sense 6 HTC BlinkFeed

Colour..................Red, White, Grey, Blue

Storage................16GB (about 10.6GB useable), MicroSD up to 128GB

RAM.....................2GB

Networks...............2G/2.5G — GSM/GPRS/EDGE: 850/900/1800/1900 MHz (SIM1 & SIM2)

............................3G — WCDMA: 850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (SIM1)

............................4G — LTE: China: FDD 1800/2100 (FDD-B1/B3), TDD-2600 (TDD-B41) (SIM1)

SIM......................Dual nano SIM

Sensors................Accelerometer, proximity, ambient light, gyro, barometer

Connectivity..........3.5mm stereo audio jack, NFC, Bluetooth 4.0 with aptX, Wifi 802.11 a/b/g/n (2.4 and 5 GHz), DNLA, HTC Connect,microUSB

Sound...................HTC BoomSound, Dual front-facing stereo speakers with dedicated amplifiers, Sense voice

Main camera.........13 megapixel resolution, BSI sensor, f/2.2 aperture, 1080p video recording

Front camera.........5 megapixel resolution, BSI sensor, 1080p video recording

Location................Internal GPS antenna + GLONASS, digital compass

Battery..................2,600 mAh non-removable Li-polymer

Talk time...............Up to 26.8 hours on 3G

Standby time.........Up to 504 hours on 3G

Launching in China, coming later to Europe etc....

All from Android Central.
[HTC One S] dd98:
its only going to cost €330 (About £270 and $450) so I'm going to wait
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
In China maybe, but I have a feeling in Europe it will be priced between the M8 Mini and the M8, so around £400-£450. Looks good though, prefer the less rounded corners and is it just me or does it look great in white? Still a very big phone for a 5" screen and not waterproof, but you can't have everything.

There are some clearer pics here: http://www.androidheadlines.com/

They also state that they think it just be for the Asian markets, but we'll have to wait and see.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Guys, I have friends going to offer me his used HTC M7 and Sony Z1 Compact. Probably, I will pick one in July end/Aug early. It's really hard to make decision since both are decent phone.

I really want to try out UltraPixel and OIS and continue to use HTC phone(M7 is also very good looking! much better than Sony) but M7 really can't beat Z1c in many aspects, like it can shoot 4k recording(stock mod cam) or 80Mbit 45fps of 1080p recording(stock mod cam), s800 cpu, water resistant, microSD, and very slim design exactly the same size of One S.

I really don't know to choose which one now. But I will continue to use One S as a spare phone and waiting for 4.4.2 Sense6 port.
[HTC One S] dd98:
If you need multimedia (music, video) then go with the One M7 but if you are a power user or mostly need a good camera then go with the Z1 Compact
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I mostly need a good camera but M7 got OIS(great at slow shutter speed and take video) and UltraPixel is also somewhat better at very low light. Z1c on the other hand, it got 4K recording mod, better 1080P quality and much much better image quality at outdoor photo. M7 got a 4.7" FHD screen while Z1c got a 4.3" 720p but the size is very small just like an One S :good:

It's very hard to make a decision, I will need to further investigate. :cyclops:
[HTC One S] dd98:
Same, I'm currently stuck between the Nexus 5 and the One M7
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I've got a friend who is using N5 and tried it out. The N5 OIS is real, the video recording is quite smooth, the stabilization performance is about the same level with M7 OIS.

The problem is N5 doesn't has dedicated ISP so the focus speed would be even poor than One S and it is using a Sony 8M CMOS(not BSI) so the low light photo quality not decent(but still acceptable becoz it got OIS) but the 8M pixel will really beat M7 at outdoor photo. Please notice the N5 1080P video quality isn't that good, should not be as clear as M7. Generally, LG 's video recording is not good in the history.

It really depends.... if you are willing to carry out One S and M7 everyday(probably I will do that) then go for M7 and use One S for outdoor and M7 for indoor....lol

If you will pick only one phone as a daily driver, I think go for N5 is a more safe way. The phone is slim design, though it got a 5" screen but the size is just about the same with M7(but M7 is much much more premium and pretty, while N5 only looks like a very cheap plastic). N5 also got s800 and best roms supporting on XDA.
[HTC One S] dd98:
I think I will go for N5 because of the Snapdragon 800 and that it will most likely get Android 4.5/5.0 Lollipop, I don't think that the M7 will get it officially at least.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
s600 isn't that slower than s800 but s600 is more power draining(but I won't call s800 battery friendly as well until s801), the main part is the GPU on s800 is a lot faster if you play games.

Google now stick to 18 months software update cycle, hence the supporting of N5 will end on 30th April, 2015. It looks like HTC will roll out Nexus8 tablet with 64bit Android 5.0, so it is possible that 5.0 will be only for 64bit cpu, you better wait for the Google I/O during at this month end. Though Google can easily release a 32bit ver of Android 5.0 but we aren't sure yet since the whole Nexus mobile series is already a dead end project. LG will release a new line of Google Sliver Project to replace Nexus mobile in the next year.
[HTC One S] dd98:
I dont think that 4.5/5.0 will just support 64-bit, it will be like what Microsoft does with Windows, make both 32 bit and 64 bit versions until 32 bit Computers and laptops are phased out completely, but I cant see Microsoft doing this anyway. Anyways, I'm more likely now to go for the One M7 because the design is too enticing and I play music and videos a lot so them boomsound speakers will be helpful (Very hard to make up my mind :o)
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
http://www.knowyourmobile.com/google/android-50-lollipop/19450/android-5-lollipop-release-date-tipped-july-expect-big-changes

This time 5.0 will has more chance to come out because Google released the 5:00 timing screen. I think it will introduce 64bit support and Quantum Paper(a completely new Android UI). If you want to play the 5.0 at 1st time, better to go N5. M7 will probably has 5.0 on CM but no sense again. If you want to stick with Sense 7.0 plus Android 5.0, you should consider HTC E8 for the lower price.

Many reports claimed the BoomSound on M7 got the best audio quality output indeed while other HTC phones like Butterfly S and M8, theirs BoomSound sounds louder but not as clear as M7.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Agreed no way it be 64 only but looks like it's going to be art only.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Art is confirmed will set as default mode(may already done it in 4.4.3 or 4.4.4?) while dalvik still there to backwards compatible older apps. I didn't real said must only 64bit but just it is one of the possibility on N5 in worse case because Nexus phone is pretty confirm will die soon and Google is going to roll out Project Silver and Project Ara to replace Nexus mobile.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Here the art info, http://www.androidauthority.com/art-replaces-dalvik-aosp-394904/
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Oh thx for your information. So, in 5.0 will only got ART.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
HTC already said that M7 will also get the Android L update.

HTC is excited about the new features in the Android L release and we can’t wait to share them with our customers. We are committed to updating our flagship HTC One family as fast as possible as part of our HTC Advantage program. We will begin rolling out updates to the HTC One (M8) and HTC One (M7) worldwide within 90 days of receiving final software from Google, followed shortly thereafter by other One family members and select devices. HTC Advantage protects your smartphone investment, ensuring you have the best smartphone experience long after purchase."
[HTC One S] dd98:
well then looks like I'm going for the m7 again
[HTC One S] Darknites:
No rush since it really means right at the end of the year or next year depending when Google release it.
[HTC One S] dd98:
at least the phone is getting Android L, it looks so good
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Yep more then the one s got and ya does look good, can't wait for image for theming.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I decided to get Z1 Compact and don't go for M7 because I still more prefer for a small phone and better camera. However, the code name of Z3 Compact is out(Aries) and it get used s805 and should solve the over heating problem on Z1/Z1c/Z2 camera(they will get over-heating easy when recording 4k or open the camera for a long time) because Samsung S5(s805 ver) is out in Korea market and review said that the temp is much better so I think the s805 will be much more battery friendly.

At this time, I think I will not wait for Z3c and just get Z1c on Aug but if more more good news on Z3c coming out then I may change my mind. But at right now, I don't want wait.
[HTC One S] dd98:
It's too late to go back now, I've ordered the HTC One M7
[HTC One S] fusk:
I'm not a fan of the larger is better race. So i have only been able to find 1 phone that has interest. Xperia z1 compact.
[HTC One S] dd98:
neither am i but in my opinion 4.7 inches on the m7 is perfect for me and the screen is so sharp, 469 ppi but the z1 compact is a bit too small for me because the on screen keys take up about 0.2 inches of the screen making only about 4.0-4.1 inches actually usable but still a great phone with a 20 mp camera
[HTC One S] fusk:
I don't have a problem with that tbh, it means i can use the phone with one hand, & also i can have it in my pants pocket without feeling like i'm stabbing my self every time i sit down.

With 342 ppi the screen is more than sharp enough, you'd probably not notice the difference, considering that monitors in 1080p have lower ppi, and we're fine with that.

I've never thought my One S was bad.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
FHD or 2K screen is hurt for battery. The battery performance on Z1c(with smaller battery) is even better than Z1.

Anyway, the real photo of Z3 and Z3c been out on net and this time Z3c looks a lot bigger, people suggested the monitor will up to 4.6" ~ 4.7" so the size will probably not that much smaller than M7 now. It's a bad news since Sony decided to join the bigger is better warfare to response the 4.5" of One Mini2 and 4.5" of S5 mini and the upcoming 4.7" of Iphone6.

Though 4.7" is still acceptable in my opinion but I still prefer 4.3" and think it is the perfect size for me. I think I will just get Z1 Compact later when I have enough money because Z3c is large and I'm not that happy.

EDIT: DooMLoRD leaked the info on Z3c is 4.5" 720P but consider the phone is really bigger, I doubt it is just 4.5" or say the Sony design is suck.
[HTC One S] 808phone:
Does anyone here have the Moto G? How does the camera compare to the One S? To me the One S has a great camera - I just wonder how much I would give up going backwards to a 5 MP shooter. I know the rest of the phone is probably better than the One S (screen, front camera, battery life).
[HTC One S] Flashalot:
[MENTION=5188956]cannondaleV2000[/MENTION] should be geting it less then 2 day he maybe able to shed some light on it
[HTC One S] cannondaleV2000:
mine will be here tomorrow morning. il take some pics and post them here. il let you know on battery life after a few days of use
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I've already got the Z1 Compact now but not rooted yet(on 4.4.2), I will post the update review later if needed. For the camera, it has good and bad.

1. It drains more power than HTC, no wonder the camera easy will get over-heating on z1/z1c/z2 when you playing with it for a long time.

2. When you take photo for statics object, actually One S got better and faster focus but when you take photo for moving object, that's Z1c focus much better.

3. Z1c photo got a bit more noise but it may also perceived very slightly more details. I prefer the One S style on balance the noise/detail control.

4. The quality of ISO within 400 on One S is good, I don't found Z1c beats One S in this range. They are near in my degrees of view but when it comes to higher ISO like 800 ~ 2000, Z1c enjoys the benefit of it's larger sensor 1/2.3" and appear to be real better. The photo is too soft on Z1c, it only apply little sharpness filter while One S tunes high the sharpness way too much.

5. The colour and white balance on Z1c is too nature while it looks more near the reality but really not as attractive as One S 's high contrast/saturation style.

6. The Superior Auto mode and other scene modes wins One S by a large margin. I think for newbies photo taker or snapshot purpose, Z1c should better. But if you like to play with manual mode and set the correct EV compensation and ISO value, One S can be just as good as Z1c within 400 ISO.

7. The shutter speed generally a little bit faster while still keep the photo brightly, I think it's the advantage from large CMOS.

Overall, I won't call Z1c camera much better but if you are lazy guy and want to use only Auto settings all time, Z1c done a much better job and for your choice. Plus the high ISO performance during in dark environment is noticeably better.

And for the general use, I don't have many experiences at right now. S800 is fast and smooth but the battery isn't as friendly as my expectation though I think 3rd party ROMs will give a help hand here. The 720P IPS screen is more sharper and clear but the colour reproduction range and touch screen responsive isn't as good as AMOLED on One S but this is well expected.

Guys if you have questions regarding Z1c, just ask but I'm not an expert.

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No way for the Moto G. One S camera will even wins Moto X in my personal opinions. Grab the Sony Z1c if you want a good camera and small phone.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2668416

You can use any stock based custom rom from Z1 on Z1c.
[HTC One S] 808phone:
Thanks guys. Just thinking ahead on the next Android phone I may get. I don't necessarily need a high end one - just one for developing in the future. I have a number of iPhones already so most of you said what I thought.... It would be very hard to go backwards. The One S is a great phone for such a low price. Not sure if there's anything better right now for the price.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
The answer is no .... lol
[HTC One S] Schlengge:
I cancelled my contract and I was looking for a new one with a new phone.

But I will buy a prepaid card and stick to the One S for a while.

For me, there is no phone at the moment which beats my One S.

Maybe this will change with Android L ...

But as long as I can flash custom ROMs with the newest updates - theres no need for me to switch from this awesome phone ;)

Concerning the Z1 Compact... I just dont like the thick frame around the screen PLUS onscreen navigation keys.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
After two days playing with Z1c, I started to love it and view it from different angle. But if you guys all only want to talk about price, really no one could beat that One S monster. It's the best cheap camera phone now, good for poor guy....lol... And consider her price will just getting lower later, I wonder anyone could kick her off even in 2015, not just in 2014.

Yup, the Z1c got a thick frame and higher price but you should know that because it got IP55 & IP58 water resistant, microSD slot, NFC and bigger battery(2300mah). All of this is important and useful. If you tell Z1c to remove all stuffs, probably it can be same size with One S. The Z1c price is coming down now, it's time to get it if anyone want a replacement of One S. It will be on the list of official Android L update plan as well so no worry.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2730097

A couple hours ago, I found this ultimate z1/z1c mod cam project and it works perfectly on my 4.4.2 stock. The 4.4.4 ver is coming soon. Now I got 100% JPG photo, 1080p@60fps, 720p@120fps and 4K@30fp recording.
[HTC One S] 808phone:
I guess I know what my next phone will NOT be. The onePlus One.

I logged into my email to find that I received an invite and it was only good for 24 hours! Of course it's a day too late. They took way too long on this and I can't stand their stupid marketing ploys.

iPhone 6 here I come although I will probably still use my HTC ONE S for many things.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I'm still playing with Sony Z1 Compact and Sony SmartWatch 2. I'm considering flash it to 4.4.4 because the camera quality and battery life got improved but the support on 4.4.4 is not matured yet so I get stuck. I will continue use One S for many things like you because 2300mah battery still not enough for this s800 beast. What real good on s800 is the amazing standby/idle battery performance, it is 10 times better than our S4 dual core.

I plan on jump on the boat of One Mini 3, Galaxy S6 Mini or Iphone6 next year but if they don't satisfy me, I may just stick with z1c + One S in next whole year and further extend the life of One S probably.

http://www.ringhk.com/news2.php?id=8972

You can try it again and check for email box everyday. One Plus One is really good for its price. 5.5" 1080P JDI Panel, S801, 3G ram, Sony 13M cam, powered by CM and consider Iphone6 this time will just very hard to buy at first much like One Plus One, you may need to wait for a long time if you don't get luck.

Iphone6 indeed is looking good, iOS8 does steal more function from android. I want to give it a chance but the price is very annoyed me. Rumors said it uses Sony 1/2.3" 13M ExmorRS but still not yet supported 4K recording so I'm very unhappy to this point and for this price just don't reasonable to not support 4K.
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
iPhone 6 Prices

16GB – £539

64GB – £619

128GB – £699

iPhone 6 Plus Prices

16GB – £619

64GB – £699

128GB – £789

:eek:
[HTC One S] 808phone:
In the US the price is the same $199 with contract. $299 for the bigger one.

Most people will only think of the price they need to put down. I think I am going to get the big one. I wanted all day life and the 12 hours is more than enough.
[HTC One S] dd98:
so that converts to about €600 for the 16gb iphone 6 and €750 for the iphone 6+, no wonder apple are losing market share to ios every month
[HTC One S] 808phone:
What are you talking about? It's not market share. It's PROFITS! They are selling MORE iPhones than ever at a profit. The reason why the market share is going lower is the total number of Android phones - including many you would not purchase - like super cheap tablets and cheap phones. Compare their market share to premium phones around the same price. Everything else (barring Windows and Blackberry and smaller OS) count as an Android phone. Even the Fire Phone.

I know some people want Apple to make a super cheap Android phone, but they are not going to do it. A lot of people can afford the iPhone - it's not about being super low priced with Apple.
[HTC One S] dd98:
it is excessive for the memory upgrades though, and google is the same
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I think a lot of people can afford iphone, it is just they don't think it worth that price, many casual users like me just want a cheap smartphone and also some guys like to playing with flash stuffs. But iphone is real good for newbie and iOS also got rich apps.

Apple targets for pure profit while Google aims at market share because they have very different business model. Google indeed wants to collect our customer behavior and personal data for other services like google search so number of users is far more important for Google.

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The iphone6+ 5.5 is just too big but LG G3 5.5" is very slim, they loss to LG's design completely this time. The Iphone6 4.7" used only 720P screen so probably the battery life should be barely enough but not great.

Sony Z3c is quite impressive to me actually, the size is just same as Z1c but comes with 300mah more battery plus 4.6" 720P screen, the camera lens finally reached 25mm too. However, I got my Z1c not for long, no money to upgrade at this moment, probably I will wait for Z4c next year.
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
Wasn't it this time last year that Google started selling off the old nexus stock? Tempted to pick one up if it goes down to £200 ish to use until the M9 comes out. No point at £300 with the new one out in 5-6 weeks. Has anyone heard anything?
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Haven't seen any leaks for phone, only tablet.
[HTC One S] dd98:
they released the n5 on halloween last year but they will probably start clearing stock once it is released, i cant wait for android l!!!
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Still no news about new Nexus phone. The original plan is to cancel Nexus phone but roll out a Silver project instead but now the Silver project is cancelled so Google started making new Nexus phone again, hence we will need to wait a bit longer this time probably.

I've tried Iphone6 4.7" and the camera is damn good, it's ultra crazy fast both focus time and photo saving time. The edge is very slim like LG phone and if your hand isn't too small, one hand operation is still possible.
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
Sounds like you are sold on the iPhone 6! I must admit I am also tempted. I think it will be the best all round phone in terms of build quality/design/camera etc. Just the cost.... £620 to buy one outright for me, don't think it's worth it personally. What was the screen like when you tested it?
[HTC One S] dd98:
if you dont have the money then why not go for the Z1 Compact or if you have that bit extra the Z3 Compact for me 720p and 1080p are not huge differences, I would buy the iPhone 6 but for the cost and iOS, or if you really do want that 1080p screen go for the HTC One (M7), I got mine for €320 which is about £280 and the S600 is still a very powerful SOC
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
It is good but over priced to me because I'm just a casual user, so I probably won't get it. And I'm also a video lover that's what I real hate iphone6 because no 4K recording.

The screen is all good. Apple only used best quality of LCD so it never be a problem.

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Yup, Z1c price is dropping quick now because Z3c will out in this month end. The Z1c is very worth to buy now if who need a small flagship and affordable, much like the position of One S in the old day.