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[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
The cost of Iphone6 would be very hard because it get used diamond screen if it is true(we don't know yet).

I think it is unrealistic to get a super slim good design phone with an ultra value price. One Plus One is a division from OPPO company and they very like to sell big phones, they never make small size with good specification so I won't consider any phone from this company.
[HTC One S] 808phone:
You are right. The iPhone is not for the budget conscious. Apple products are always more expensive. The OPO will be tall - no doubt about it. However no one else has a phone that can compete for the price. What I don't know is if it can do a lot when PIN locked - like the iPhone can. If I can issue full commands - basically use Google Now from a PIN locked screen - that will be a deal changer.
[HTC One S] casu91:
No one is thinking about the new Moto X+1? :) if the rumors are right and the price under 400 $ i think it's gonna be a really good phone to buy!
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Shame on you guys for even thinking about the iPhone [emoji12]
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Indeed, IOS is trying to copy more and more function from Android and the differentiation between two OS would be minimum in the future like IOS8 or IOS9 but there are still lots of apps only available on IOS, so it actually the time now for us android fans try out Iphone. What I don't want is the over rated price of Iphone. But if you like to play flash things, android is still the only way to go.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
I have a friend who was iPhone fan, had every one of them but was not happy when IOS7 come and changed to android lol so ya no rush to get lock down to Apple.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I'm not a smartphone hardcore, I just use it for general purpose. I don't install many apps and seldom to play games. So, I always avoid to buy any top price staff, android is the only choice for me. But the ecosystem on Iphone is excellent I've to admit it. The problem now is all android companies switched to 5" inch or above area and almost no one selling smaller size model with decent camera again. That forced me start to consider Iphone6.

I don't know the PIN things, really can't tell too much.

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IOS generally is suck on OS side but very rich in apps. Android on the other hand, it plays in exactly the opposite way. It's hard to believe what your friend told is true, he should know the IOS is weaker since day one. I think he just wanted to try out bigger screen.

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X+1 just offer more color .... $400 to get an one year older phone couldn't say it cheap.
[HTC One S] casu91:
Ehm no..I'm talking about the new phone they are going to announce, the Moto X's successor
[HTC One S] Darknites:
To lazy to edit.

Ya my friend did get a note 3 so ya part of is screen size but he hasn't liked ios7 since it come out. Also about apps that's all I ever hear but I'm not that big on lots of apps but be nice if it was more like that tho.
[HTC One S] 808phone:
Even though this is xda developers, I can only assume that the people that say iOS sucks is because they have no idea how good the operating system is from a developer point of view. There is a reason why lots of apps are on iOS first and there is a reason why there are so much more music and creative apps on the iPhone.

Android is beautiful customization, but the iPhone really works well within itself. The locked screen functionality is incredible - I use it all the time and that's one place that iOS is way ahead of Android.

In this respect I think the OnePlus One will be cool. It has the internal RAM to run many things without running out of memory and hopefully the big size will allow it run for a long period of time even with different lock screen and background processes that kill the battery.

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> But if you like to play flash things, android is still the only way to go

I cannot get Flash to work well on my HTC ONE S. It has a ton of problems.

Have you ever used Puffin Browser on iOS? It runs flash fine.

What I love about Android is that everything is clickable and customizable. I love CM11's sounds too! The different launchers are cool for sure.
[HTC One S] lorddavid:
Hi Guys, I bought this phone from a friend, the S4 variant, Scratched screen, camera flashlight doesnt work, and the proximity sensor damage. Right now I have the complete housing, someone is selling me the full screen, the sensor I heard taht cost 8 dollars (its a small piece) the only thing that I dont know if it fixable is the camera flashlight.

Why I bought the phone in that condition? Is the s4 variant, in ebay I found only the s3 variant, and I need a phone right now, As today, I'm Using MaximumHD rom and this phone is great. I use to have HTC ONE M7, I change it for a Galaxy s4, just because 2 problems, camera and the one in the link og my signature.

Really i dont like s4, i'm selling it and bought this one until I have money to buy HTC ONE M8. But so far, I'm happy with this One S, a very good phone, good battery life (no great, but enough for me) and the material feel more resistent than a Galaxy S4 haha, really, I dont like samsung or Iphone. I feel much better with an HTC Phone. Just hoping that the M8 dont have the same problems like the M7
[HTC One S] 808phone:
The M8 camera is reported to be less than state of art. Honestly, other than the size, IF OnePlus can release the phone at the price they promised, then it's pretty unbeatable for Android
[HTC One S] lorddavid:
But for me the quality of the material is important. If is a cheap plastic like samsung, is not for me. My only phone that I had for about 4 years, was an HTC phone. The camera of the M8 i know is no the best, but is not bad. and if there is no issue like purple tint, then is perfect for me
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
oh u are right, there is a moto x with 5.2" FHD, 2GB, S800, 13M cam coming out. I think then us400 is okay for its price but moto never make decent camera. Beware.

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I don't install many apps too but part of the reason is not many unique and dedicated apps on android. If switch to ios, I'm sure I will try out more apps.

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What I meant is flashing roms. You can try Dolphin broswer on android, it comes with build-in flash player and should perform better. ios7 isn't enough to me but from what we've seen on ios6/7, Apple is trying to bring more function to OS. ios8 or ios9 should do good. Though android is way more customizable but it usually drains more battery if you like to play much customize things. Unfortunately, nearly all new android phones no more battery switchable, only Samsung still stick to this marketing. So, this advantage isn't important to me anymore except I switch to Samsung. I don't play any customize on One S and try to get max. battery life.

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One S S4 is more than you imagine and you finally know it. It's not surprised, you see many of us still using it as daily driver after two years.

Indeed, the camera in M7 is better because it got OIS and M7 is more premium design but there are just too many defective camera and totally unacceptable. The M8 camera is okay now, HTC switched to another one company to produce the M8 camera and fixed the problem.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2480139&page=5

Besure to follow #48 or flash the flashable zip via #144 and make sure you selected the 4:3 regular mode, 16:9 wide mode will give you bad result. UltraPixel is just too bad at outdoor, when you using this mod, you can beat M7/M8 at outdoor very easily and even S4. (Indoor is good too actually).
[HTC One S] lorddavid:
So, with that I will get better photo? Thanks :D

With the flashable I can uninstall it too? because I wish to see if the wide photo are too bad because I use it a lot :P thanks so much :D
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
You get much better photo and video with that mod. That's no native wide mode in One S, you got 16:9 bad photo in all roms, with or without mod. Your sensor native size is 4:3 photo, all wide 16:9 is software modified.
[HTC One S] lorddavid:
Really!!!!!!!! O.O thats explain why I feel that the photo must be better haha, thank you so much :D I will keep this phone for at least 3 month (and even when I get my htc m8, i think that I will keep it as spare phone :P )

And whats the difference from the zip of the first post and NEW_CAMERA_Sense5-MOD_signed.zip ???

PD: just a question, maybe for sure the answer is not, but, you know any guide or if the camera flash light can be repaired?
[HTC One S] casu91:
Yes, I know that. But for that price it's going to be a good phone! I also love the LG G2 and I'm looking forward for the G3!

Inviato dal mio One S utilizzando Tapatalk
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Use the NEW_CAMERA_Sense5-MOD_signed.zip and no way to fix the flash because it is dedicated on the mainboard, you will need to replace the whole motherboard.

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I like G2 too because the OIS is nice. G3 is just too big to me. Actually, I'm thinking to get a HTC Butterfly 2 later, it is a cheaper model of M8. With everything the same with M8(s801, 5" FHD, Duo camera, 2G ram) but used a plastic body. I think the price will just slightly higher than the new MotoX+1.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2743174

There is no one do cam mod for M7 and M7 mini but this time we have camera mod on M8 now and it can use on Butterfly2 as well I believe.
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
Decided I'm gonna wait till early next year to replace my One S, can't find enough reasons to get rid of it yet. Buying the phone outright so I'll get the M9 or M8 depending on the difference in price. Guaranteed I'll be tempted my the new Nexus in Oct/Nov but unless it's got a much larger battery and SD card then I will wait.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I'm really waiting for M9 too. HTC officially said that it will be a very large sensor with 8M UltraPixel(probably 1/1.5" or at least 1/2.3") and 4K video recording supported.
[HTC One S] Darvadouille:
I'm 100% for the next Nexus...

Tired of being forgotten by all this phone company, just after few months of releasing their phone...
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
Sounds great to me!
[HTC One S] casu91:
Nexus phones are really great especially for the price, but they always have a bad camera!

Inviato dal mio One S utilizzando Tapatalk
[HTC One S] rosswhite:
For anyone looking for a cheaper option the updated Moto G will be even more of a bargain with 4g and SD card. £150/$220.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone-and-communications/mobile-phones/moto-g-with-4g-official-gets-a-microsd-slot-to-boot-1248325
[HTC One S] Flashalot:
Guess it's a good bye from me had a great time here with everyone I'll be around some with helping but I will be liveing in the Sprint m8 Fourm
[HTC One S] circuit1:
Bye bye
[HTC One S] Darvadouille:
For photos, I use... A digital camera!

Still much better than any phone sensor!
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I may need to wait M9 with you.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_one_mini_2-review-1077.php

Since HTC officially announced One mini 2 today and the spec. is very suck.

4.5" 720p

S400 quadcore 1.2G

1G ram

16GB rom

13M 28mm f/2.2 main camera

5M face camera

NFC

MicroSD up to 128GB

2100mAH battery

The problem is the camera can not say an upgrade to One S. It really shared the same camera with Desire 816 and it's only f/2.2 not f/2.0 and they both don't have Imagechip. The focus performance should be worse than One S especially at low light condition because the ISP in Qualcomm CPU is really bad even in s800(notice how slow of the focus in LG G2), not to mention it is only a S400 product.

I will consider the plastic ver of M8(code name isn't sure yet, maybe M8 Ace or HTC B2) later this year or simply wait for the M9 next year and pray for the SixthSense 4.4.2 port to be success on our One S and extend our phone life cycle til we can get M9.
[HTC One S] ChrisAG:
Mid-size is important

If you like the One S for its size, going with a Nexus 5 or One M8 is not in the cards. The new One Mini is sized right but only has 1GB RAM.

After owning it for nearly 1.5 years I recently replaced my One S with what I believe is its spiritual successor, the Moto X. Although I liked the S more than any previous phone I had (Galaxy S, Galaxy Nexus), I wanted a slightly larger screen and the Moto X filled the bill. I loved the fact that the Moto X managed to cram a bigger screen into a body of virtual identical width to the One S. The X may be a little thicker, but its curved body is more comfortable to hold than the S.

The Moto is an improvement in every way over the S, except for the camera. If you're outdoors the X's camera is fine, but indoors the One S camera is clearly superior.

I also like the Motorola custom enhancements like Active Notifications, etc. It's great that the phone can read your texts while you're driving, and gives you the option to dictate a reply.

The processor may not be state of the art these days, but it doesn't really matter, especially after the recent price drop, which is why I went for it. There's also the likelihood of continued updates, at least for the next while, whereas you need custom ROMs to stay current with the One S.
[HTC One S] jccf07:
Moto G, rules!
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
More news of Mini2 and M8 Ace been out. Let's take a summary.

Mini2 really shared the same camera with Desire 816, they don't have Imagechip so the focus speed confirmed to be slower by review and I guess even slower than One S in low light condition. But Mini 2 got shutter speed control in manual mode(D816 doesn't has it) which will help to take photo at low light.

M8 Ace more info leaked. It got 4.7" FHD, 2G ram, s801 and no Duo camera, it looks like will use the same 13M camera with mini2/d816 as well but we don't know if it has the imagechip at this moment but guess it supports manual shutter speed mode too.

I was originally thinking to get a M8 later when the price cheaper but since the M8 quality mod camera developer(he is also one of the major mod cam dev on LG G2 xda board) got account disabled for some private reason. We might loss a experience rich dev for M8 for the camera part and I started thinking to give up this phone now.

Though the Mini2 has no imagechip but manual shutter speed control will really help in low light. So, it is still a good choice for One S replacement but the problem of Mini2 is the price, it is just too high because metal body. On the other hand, the plastic version of M8 Ace seems will has a nice price and I love it to be smaller than M8(4.7" not 5") and S801 has better focus speed over Mini2's S400 CPU.

http://www.gsmarena.com/htc_desire_816-review-1079p8.php

For the Desire816, you can check out the outdoor image quality here.

http://www.eprice.com.hk/mobile/talk/4542/177062/1/

Here you can check out the One Mini 2 photo at low light. This is a first hand review from Hong Kong.

Currently, I've no real plan to upgrade my phone. I'm waiting for 4.4.2 SixthSense, if that port is failed(ok devs plz don't blame me) I will start to consider M8, M8 Ace, One Mini2 depending by the price. If the porting is successfully, I will just wait for M9.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
The mini really should just be smaller M8 even with camera but maybe lower clock speed. Ya is a shame about that dev the mod looked good but never got round to trying it. Got to say camera sucks big time on aosp but going to see if the Google camera is any better.
[HTC One S] dd98:
Well, I guess it's goodbye for me too. For anybody using my MIUI ROM dont worry, it will still get updated as normal.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Long time no see Darknites :good: No wonder, you moved to M8 board.

Google Camera(only with s801 CPU) should be doing good in terms of speed and image quality though I still prefer Imagechip with stock HTC camera but at least we don't need to wait for mod cam again and CM/AOSP also got an usable camera now.

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[HTC One S] Darknites:
Ya camera yet again is better on sense but aosp sucks bad in low light but ya at least we didn't have to wait for the camera to work lol but here a pic or 2 using stock CM11 camera app.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
CM/AOSP will only make use of the CPU ISP, they can't access the HTC Imagechip. S801 got improved ISP this time(s800 still very bad), so it is okay to live with Google Camera now. But if you want better performance, I'm afraid we will need wait for the s805/s810 on M9, at least now we know Qualcomm finally working on camera.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
I didn't expect much on aosp anyway I'm use to it lol but did feel that the one s did keep up in quality, on m8 just feels bad at everything lol.
[HTC One S] dd98:
Thanks for finding but i dont think its worth it, i will probably move on to the htc one m7 or nexus 5
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
UltraPixel is real good for speed at low light because of a faster shutter can be applied, 800iso on mobile is more usable now and a bright final image you got. For the quality-wise, never think of a 4M Pixel could beat 8M or 13/16M.

In the old day, 4M was doing good on digital camera but they used CCD with a larger sensor. I don't think a small 4M BSI can output decent image even with today's technology. 8M is a must if you want quality. In my opinion, 8M BSI might not as good as 4M CCD, don't even mention 4M BSI though. That's why I prefer to stay away from UltraPixel but since I found there is a M8 cam mod, I started to thinking to give it a try but no more mod now. :rolleyes:

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I actually like M7 more because premium design and OIS but the camera just too easy to defective, no way! Still N5? huh? Google Sliver and Project Ara is going out to replace Nexus.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
When compared to one s on sense I think the m8 takes better pics and just kills it in low light and that's without mods. I was worried about it not having ois but not had issues with it even when moving, it's so fast but don't get me wrong 4m is a bit low they should of gone for 6 or 8 so its a least bigger than the m7. Here a pic on sense and I put on Dropbox so you get best quality.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/25knx51rqkusr1t/IMAG0006.jpg
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
HTC M7 vs M8 - OIS Demonstration

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIdiX8kUuFw

It's clearly the M7 OIS is useful.

For the photo details part, One S with mod at outdoor wins M8 without doubt. I've downloaded your cat.jpg off dropbox and give it a full screen checking, though I won't say the quality is bad but it's not that great given it is just a 4M picture. But M8 should be better on focusing, WB, exposure.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Thanks for video, Ya that does make a difference wish it had it now. Given that's it's only 4m and no mods makes it better to me but there whole thread moaning about it and I just don't see why when it takes great pics but then I don't crop like most them that moan lol.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Here a pic of battery life just in case anybody interested.
[HTC One S] Flashalot:
Most I have had was 3 day running sense but that was with minimal use max I have is 2day
[HTC One S] Darknites:
That was on CM11 here one on sense.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
It has good and bad. M8 dropped OIS but gives you a second camera to improve focus, your focus does really better than M7. But fast focus can't fix slow shutter lag, it needs OIS, though you can set manual shutter speed this time(only stock HTC cam) to solve part of the problem.

However, you run on CM. I really don't know if 3rd party camera like Google camera will make use of the second camera, or not. If the second camera need sense framework and stock HTC camera to work with, you have to reason to get M8. But the s801 on M8 is great, the cpu is much more battery friendly over M7 s600.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
From my understanding that the Google camera can use the second camera but I think this is on GPE rom but I will find out when I flashed back to Sense to see if I can do the "3D" stuff with aosp pictures since HTC gallery not working but it meant to work on GPE.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Aosp pictures don't use second camera even with Google camera but the Google one does use it on Sense rom.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
I know GPE rom on M7 actually isn't a pure AOSP, it does has sense framework in the rom. I think M8 GPE just about the same. The stock camera on GPE is very possible to access the Imagechip and second camera, but not sure about Google camera on GPE.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
From what I seen it does use second camera on GPE but no idea on Imagechip.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
The stock cam on GPE or Google Camera?
[HTC One S] Darknites:
I thought the stock one on GPE is the same as the market one.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Actually, I'm not sure about that too. Even though the answer is yes, the one comes with GPE rom may modified to access the second camera. It may not exactly the same with the market one.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Market one can already use second camera so would be lame if the stock one can't if it's even different. Guess one day I will try GPE to find out for sure.
[HTC One S] TheEndHK:
Can you try other 3rd party camera app to see if they can use the 2nd camera? :laugh:
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Tried a few and they didn't use it.
[HTC One S] dd98:
Can somebody help me, I'm split between HTC One and Nexus 5. I really like Sense 6, the HTC One's design and the Boomsound speakers but I like the Nexus 5's better camera, the Snapdragon 800 and that it is guaranteed get the next version of Android.
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Not used N5 but you can't go wrong with the One and sounds like you like more stuff on the One then N5.
[HTC One S] dd98:
I suppose, the One S was my first HTC phone and absolutely loved it, so probably I'll go for the One
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Same here and HTC seems to have changed how it does updates so don't feel too worried about them dropping it less then a year like they did with the One S also helps its there top phone this time so might help a bit too and also Aosp's not too bad as well.
[HTC One S] dd98:
Yeah, true but AOSP is boring unless Google can make a great looking Android 4.5/5.0
[HTC One S] Darknites:
I don't see how its boring, AOSP is what you make of it and has many looks but Sense 6 is pretty good too.
[HTC One S] dd98:
I just think that AOSP is a bit bland, I prefer Sense/Xperia UI
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Ya I think I stick with sense for a bit it is nice and having per app colour is really nice for changing looks. My mate makes me laugh about his Xperia, always moaning that they keep changing things every update (no idea what he on about) but the best one is the lockscreen telling him to slide up to unlock which I do find funny.