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[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
[MENTION=3231225]klwinkel[/MENTION]

I just updated Multi-Watch to the latest version and I noticed that there still are problems with the Bluetooth and Battery images in some themes.

Try KisaiConsoleV2 for example. In most of my Kisai themes I use the BT image to add shades and/or numbers over the 'special' fonts that I created for these themes. In Multi-Watch those shades are missing. Battery indicator on top of KisaiConsoleV2 is missing too.

In Watch Styler the Bluetooth images show on top of all fonts and under the hands.

You also might check out the font for date and seconds in KisaiConsoleV2.

Is it set to bold when it shouldn't be? There is no spacing between the dots.

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Maybe it's an idea to extract all preview images once and store (and maybe resize) them for future listing? :)

You could rename the stored previews to the companying wstheme name and then scan and compare them to the stored wstheme filenames during Multi-Watch start-up and during theme import (only check imported theme name to add new stored themes when MW is already running.), and extract new previews if necessary.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I am extracting the preview images already when loading a wstheme (on the gear itself or via the android app), it is used in the load/save screen, to give you a clue what the saved watchface looked like, instead of only the name and a date/time.

I could use the same image too in the wstheme list.

But users are also able to copy the wstheme files manually to the Gear with a usb cable, which I am not aware of in the app.

So when a preview image is not found yet, I need to unzip it from the wstheme.

I will see how it performs.

Edit: It is working and looks greath, but the initial load of all missing preview images takes a long time.

That are preview images for themes that are manually put on the gear over usb, not via the Android app.

I will need to show a progress message "loading preview thumbnails" or something simular....
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I will check it out, thanks for reporting!

edit: I Fixed it, it was painting the bt and battery images before the fonts.... (Please people tell me these things if you notice them!)

But the battery part still looks different from the preview image.

It is a white part going wider depending on the battery level, not green as in the preview image.

could the preview image be wrong there?

I am talking about the green V2.
[Samsung Gear 2] vivi:
If it takes too long time to load preview image of watch faces, could it be able to have options of choosing to preview or not? Or if the wsthemes say > 10 it can switch to not preview those images. Because now I put more than 100 wsthemes in download folder.

Thx.
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
The preview image is ok. It's a screenshot from Galaxy Gear, taken with Android Device Monitor.

There's a color-tag attached to it in theme.json to match the color, just like the textColor-tag for the fonts.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
100????

i had about 40 and it took 1-2 minutes to load the previews.....

I could simply add another button to load the previews and not loading them when building the list of wsthemes.

users who want the preview can use that.

Or I do it automatically at 03:00 am, nobody will notice....
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
another tag I wasn't reading yet....

And it ain't a nice one, requires quite a lot of code to achieve this I think.
[Samsung Gear 2] vivi:
Yes 100 with a lot of fun. :laugh:

Good idea , thx :good:
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
Except for the night people :angel:
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Yes, I have seen your post at 01:57 am this morning, sorry for not answering immediately ;)
[Samsung Gear 2] clavit:
Exactly.

I always work nights, so i'm almost always up at 3:00 AM.

I would prefer a manual reload.
[Samsung Gear 2] mrmrmrmr:
Hi,

I have the Multi-Watch app for Gear 2. Now I see in the update changes that there is also a Phone app.

Where can I find it to load ? I couldn't see it on Google Play.
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klwinkel.MultiWatchProvider
[Samsung Gear 2] OGroteKoning:
It is on the Samsung Store. You need to download it from the Samsung Store through the Gear Manager on your phone.
[Samsung Gear 2] mrmrmrmr:
But this is charging additionally. I had already purchased the Gear app. Do I have to pay separately for the Phone app as well ?

p.s : I am asking because maybe I'm doing something wrong. I had thought that it could be free to payed users.

Thx.
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
Yes.
[Samsung Gear 2] BigDanInTX:
Completely worth it.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Sorry, it's compensation for spend labor....
[Samsung Gear 2] pdunn92074:
I am having this same problem. Mine is set to 0 and nothing I do seems to make it want to show steps again. I tried rebooting and changing faces, but neither seemed to fix it.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
First of all, be aware that it only updates when the screen goes from the off to the on state, (to save battery).

or when you put it in edit mode.

So it is not update while you look at it and walk.

Also it does not always update after too little steps, take a few more steps and switch on the screen to check it.

last resort is to select a completely other clock and then the Multi-Watch again.
[Samsung Gear 2] pdunn92074:
Actually it is showing steps now, but it does not match what is showing on the pedometer. I take it that this is normal and this will reset to 0 tonight at midnight and all will be well.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Correct.

This is what should happen normally every day. Tomorrow its value will be the same as the build-in pedometer app.

Currently it is not clear to me why it sometimes stops counting in the Multi-Watch.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
fixed it, will be in the next update.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
It will only load preview thumbnails when they are missing, so maybe only once.

If you haven't manually (usb cable) put new wstheme files in the downloads dir on the gear, it won't take any time, you wouldn't notice.

The manual loading makes it all so technical, users shouldn't need to know they need to load preview thumbnails manually.

maybe I do both, manual and at 03:00am, If done manually, there is nothing to do at 03:00am.....
[Samsung Gear 2] clavit:
Cool. No problem then :)
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I could even make it a little more intelligent...

The app knows if it has been "on" (screen=on) for the past hour.

So if it hasn't been "on" for an hour (or maybe 2 or 3), it could load the thumbs, assuming the owner is sleeping.
[Samsung Gear 2] vivi:
COOL !!!!!

GREAT !!!! :good::good::good:
[Samsung Gear 2] pippolino123:
Actually I think it's a little bug of the current release... it used to work very well before the last update.

I can't get it to work anymore, neither changing the watch face and back, nor at midnight :) it is always showing zero, despite the steps count is running in the background
[Samsung Gear 2] leojab:
Dear [MENTION=3231225]klwinkel[/MENTION], just curious as to when is the next release planned. I am eagerly waiting for the new screens for font size control and colour modification. thanks
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I have made an RGBa color setting for the date/digital time and a separate RGBa setting for the watch hands.

You can now select from different type of hands and set the color of the hands to any color you want.

The a from RGBa is for 'alpha' = transparancy, so you can also set the amount of transparancy for the digital time and watch hands.

The hourly chime can be selected from a list also now.

There is no setting for font size yet, other then the set of predefined sizes there already was.

I am planning to upload it to the samsung store before the weekend, so it could become available during next week.
[Samsung Gear 2] zadigre:
[MENTION=3231225]klwinkel[/MENTION] , did you see anything new regarding the supported Gear 1/phone combos for your app in the Samsung Store?

Multi-Watch is still not yet available to me with my Note 3 and Gear 1 on Tizen... and I don't want to root my phone just for Multi-Watch.

(I know root has other interesting usage... but I don't need anything it has to offer).
[Samsung Gear 2] zadigre:
Galaxy Note 3 / Gear 1 still not in the list...

weird to see the Note II and S III supported... but not Note 3, S4 or S5.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Weird for sure.

But maybe a lot of the Note3/S4/S5 owners got a gear2 for free, so they do not expect them to own a gear1.

They could at least start supporting the standalone wgt apps, they are more or less independent from the phone (only for installing)
[Samsung Gear 2] zadigre:
a lot of owners of the Note 3 got a Gear 1 for free... both were released at the same time.

At the start, the Gear 1 was available with a Note 3 or S4 only (and maybe some other Samsung devices)... it wasn't even possible to buy it alone in some stores.

Samsung does not make any sense sometimes... and we have a proof here...
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Probably the alpha value is also used for battery images and bluetooth images?

Can you remember a wstheme that used the alpha value?

Have you used the alpha value also for the Hands in a wstheme?

Can you remember a wstheme for that too?
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
Alpha for battery:

Mechanic

Alpha for battery & Bluetooth:

BCD

Alpha for the hands:

Rainbow
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
This may be an illusion because the tube is almost empty in the preview?

I attached a new preview that I just made with almost full battery
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
found it, I had the battery and bluetooth image in the wrong order.

now I have the battery first and then the bluetooth on top of it.

the bluetooth also had a slight gray shade all over.... also over the battery.

then it looks good, my mistake.
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
Sorry for being a little tricky with my designs :cyclops::D
[Samsung Gear 2] JimSmith94:
I might have found another related bug. I flew to another time zone yesterday and had to switch to another clock face and neck to get the time to change.
[Samsung Gear 2] gav83collins:
nice work dude, just purchased from the app store, thanks

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nice work dude, just purchased from the app store, thanks

edit

few bugs, improvments

1. the option to turn the text and battery a specific colour, ie red or blue

2. the option to turn pedometer into miles,(without having it on watch face too) in the status bar, text a specific colour too

3, option to save , saved setups, as a ws.theme, or ability to load a saved one (still trying to figure out how)

4, ability to select wallpapers on the smartphone

er.......................still playing with it, so il try to think of more

edit

also, of course, the abilty to short cut to apps from the homescreen

please and thankyou
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I think it follows the time on the phone.

at least if I change time on my phone (I sometimes do for testing), the geaar immediatly uses that new time.

how did your phone react on the time-zone change? did it show another time?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
1. text and hands color (RGBa value) can be changed in the next update, added blue and red battery also for next update

2. status bar already shows pedometer in miles

3. loading saving is in the 2nd edit screen (left middle button)

4. Noted.

how would that look like, shortcuts on the homescren, it sort of messes up the watch face doesn't it?
[Samsung Gear 2] rEVOLVE:
I sent you a message earlier but not sure if you got it. You can solve the shortcuts cluttering up the homescreen a few ways:

1. Make certain elements as a shortcut to specific apps (IE just like you made the center of the watch invoke the settings, make date/pedometer/etc be able to launch apps when touched. OR just make invisible hotspots in the watchface that can be moved around in the editor.

2. Do the swipe up panel like I suggested. Swipe up on Multi-Watch launches a second screen with a grid of shortcuts, weather & forecast, more status info such as phone battery, missed calls/new texts/new email, 1 or 2 next appointments <-this would be my favorite as you can have your clean watchface but instant access to more important details without digging through the watch UI to get it.

3. DO BOTH :)

I would be fine if you made this like a separate app and charged for it, because it's a lot of new functionality. Of all the new apps I've seen, no one has yet made a launcher replacement (other than launchers that trigger apps on the phone). A quick launch app shortcut panel w/ 2x3 or 2x4 and status info would be killer.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I will see what I can do.
[Samsung Gear 2] JimSmith94:
Yes, the phone booted up with the correct new time and the watch connected immediately, as soon as Bluetooth was available. I left the watch powered on during the flight. Sorry, I should have said that in my first post.
[Samsung Gear 2] gav83collins:
load n save yeah figured that out now

Ok cool. But the pedometer only stays in miles of you keep it on the home screen too. Which I don't want to do. As for watch face apps. That would depend on how you have the watch. And what features. Like the time n battery n pedometer on the status bar. U don't need on the face. I don't care for the face if I'm honest. I prefer to quick launch. And I think most would agree. Great work so far and thanks for the quick reply
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
Export Themes?

Hey guys. How do I go about exporting a theme I made in the Watch Styler app so that I can use it in Multi-Watch?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I'm not a regular user of wathcstyler, but I shaed it to myself (email) and saved the attachement (.wstheme file) on the phone.

then I used the android app to install it.

must be an easier way, but I couln't find it.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Testing new surprise bonus feature ;)

Sending update 2.3 for certification to Samsung today.

Hopefully in app store end of this week.

=======================================

Just uploaded version 2.3 for Samsung approval.

Here a preview video:

Preview video Multi-Watch version 2.3

.
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
I can't even find out how to "share it". I've read that other ppl have shared it to themselves in an email, but I can't find a share button in the app.
[Samsung Gear 2] htc0101:
I reset my watch and phone, went to reinstall Multi-Watch and it is not in the app store anymore. Watched for a couple days and it's still gone. If it matters I'm on R381XXU0BNE5 from Rogers.
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
Whatever

Well, for what it's worth. Here's the theme I made that I can't extract.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Make sure you look in the Samsung apps store, started from the Gear Manager.

I have not removed it from the Samsung app store, it should be there,

but others also sometimes have difficulties finding it.

I have the impression that that the S. app store behaves rather unpredictable sometimes...
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
There is a share button at the bottom of the screen, after you select a theme at startup of the app.

see screenshot.
[Samsung Gear 2] ktetreault14:
change build.prop to match one of the devices that has it. then switch back after downloaded
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
I think we got a nerfed version of the app in Canada. There's no share button! Lame!
[Samsung Gear 2] htc0101:
Yes that is where I was looking from, I scrolled through every single category then used the search button. Just checked again this morning and it's not in there, at least for me.
[Samsung Gear 2] Khyllion:
Apparently you have only the stock themes, you cannot share the stock ones, try to create one, then when selected see if there is the option to share
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Try the one from gearfaces.com, that is the one I use.
[Samsung Gear 2] zadigre:
I know I can do this...

But my device is not rooted and I don't want to do it just for this.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900W8 with Tapatalk
[Samsung Gear 2] ktetreault14:
oh. i understand. you could always towelroot. it leaves knox untouched then just unroot via supersu app
[Samsung Gear 2] zadigre:
Towelroot does not work on my device... I tried it a few times. It looks like to be a problem with the SM-N900W8 Canadian version only because it's working fine on Telcel version of the same model.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900W8 with Tapatalk
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
No, I created one and there was still no option to share. Hence the whole reason I posted the initial question.. I wanted to share my theme. Why would I care about sharing the stock themes?

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I will try that. Thanks.

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The version from GearFaces.com does indeed have the share button. Thanks a bunch for your help!
[Samsung Gear 2] ktetreault14:
thats terrible. worked on my N900T tmobile version
[Samsung Gear 2] htc0101:
I am on Rogers in Canada and I used towelroot no problems at all.

Edit: just saw you are running the n900w8 where mine is the g900w8. That sucks man.
[Samsung Gear 2] zadigre:
On your S5?

If yes, it means that there is something specific on the Canadian Note 3 that is stopping Towelroot from working.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900W8 with Tapatalk
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
I purchased and installed the multi watch app on the play store and tried to install my theme, but I kept getting a bluetooth is disconnected error. I rebooted the phone, selected a different watch and then went back to multi (both on the watch and using gear manager), manually disconnected bluetooth and re-paired the watch. Nothing works.
[Samsung Gear 2] htc0101:
On your S5?

If yes, it means that there is something specific on the Canadian Note 3 that is stopping Towelroot from working.

Sent from my Galaxy Note 3 SM-N900W8 with Tapatalk

Yes on my S5.

I just saw that watch styler popped up on the app store today, just downloaded it and it is working perfectly for me.
[Samsung Gear 2] pippolino123:
... is there a way to roll back to the previous release??

At least it was working... let me know how I can do it
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Samsung app store only advertises the latest version.

There is an update on its way, within a few days, lets see what that does.

I did'nt have any problems myself, so there can't be a real big problem.

maybe specific circumstances that caused it.
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
Can someone answer this?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Your 1-star reward ("should be 0...") in the Play store for sure doesn't solve it.....

That is not the right way to motivate people to help you.

Sorry, but I can't tell what is wrong, I haven't had many complaints about connection problems for this app.

some had, but suddenly did connect after a few tries.

what phone and android version are you running?

Do you have connection problems with other simular apps too?

Are you running a custom rom, are you rooted, have you captured a logcat?

I need more info to be able to find out what can be wrong.
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
Oh, I see. You only provide support to people that leave glowing reviews. Ok, well then it's a great app.. 5 stars! Only one little problem, it doesn't work at all..
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I mean, you could contact the developer giving him a chance to solve it maybe, before leaving a negative review rating.

It just does'n't make me work harder;)

since there are not more users having this problem, I assume it must be on your side.

please provide the info I asked for, maybe we find the problem.

You can do by email if you prefer.
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
Also, the fact that I'm a paying customer is what should motivate you to help me. I know it's a pretty nominal fee, but right now it doesn't do anything.

I have a Galaxy Note 3. SM900W8

No, I have had zero problems with any other apps.

Yes, I am running the HyperDrive ROM. It's TW based so no problems there and yes I am rooter. I have no idea how to capture a logcat, but will do so if you would be so kind as to provide instruction on how to do so.

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There are people having this exact problem in this thread. For him he was able to choose a different watch and then go back to multi-watch and his problem was solved. That didn't work for me. There is also another 1 star review in the play store saying that it doesn't work at all, so I don't think it's just me.

I'll PM you with my email and we can work this out that way.. If we get it working I would be more than happy to change my review.
[Samsung Gear 2] jgristwood:
:laugh: So... It looks like I'm the idiot. It turns out I was using an outdated version of the Gear app which wasn't designed to even work with the Android app, so of course the Android app wouldn't sync to the app on the Gear. I was under the obviously mistaken impression that the app would be updated automatically. Since I updated to V2.2, everything works great. I have since changed my review on the Play store.

I'm going to leave my other idiot comments up so that others can see that jumping to conclusions and blaming doesn't help anyone get the problem resolved. I do apologize.
[Samsung Gear 2] leojab:
I am waiting for the 2.3 update which has got the newly added flashlight feature :good:

More control on the font size and separate colouring for the date and clock numbers would be great.
[Samsung Gear 2] lamecus:
Hi there, I'am having a very similar problem. I can't find the "Multi-Watch" app in my Gear Manager - Samsung Apps!!! Can anyone link me to that app please... Note: I have already the Multi-Watch Android app installed on my S5. My actual location - Angola.
[Samsung Gear 2] RenVilo:
Just bought this app. I have a S4 with the Hassan Rom. When I want to install a theme from GearFaces I do get an error saying my Bluetooth connection to my gear isn't on or I have to enable/start the Multi-Watch app in Gear Manager. So when I go to Gear Manager under My Apps there's nothing for Multi-Watch??? Am I doing something wrong?

I'm using Gear Manager Version 2.1.14062401
[Samsung Gear 2] MrUnionFan:
Did you purchase both the watch app & the phone app? You need both in order to make it work. It is WELL worth the few dollars for the apps. Hope this helps.
[Samsung Gear 2] RenVilo:
I just bought this one:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klwinkel.MultiWatchProvider
[Samsung Gear 2] MrUnionFan:
Ok. You need to purchase the watch app as well. Go into Gear Manager & then gonto Samsung Apps. Look for the app. See enclosed screen shot.
[Samsung Gear 2] RenVilo:
Ok cool installing it now. With google play you can do refunds if you uninstall an app. Can you do the same on samsungs store? Bought a useless launcher lol
[Samsung Gear 2] htc0101:
I've been asking and searching for weeks now and nobody has any answers for why it is no longer in the gear Samsung apps store for some people.
[Samsung Gear 2] RenVilo:
Ok so I bought it, got my sms but when I install it it gives me an error "Installation Failed. Try later. (WO:WO:-1002)
[Samsung Gear 2] MrUnionFan:
Unfortunately, I'm not sure what that error code is. [MENTION=3231225]klwinkel[/MENTION] may be able to assist you further. Sorry!!
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Sorry, the installation is done by the OS itself,never seen that error, try uninstalling and installing again later.

is it on a custom rom?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
it should be there, I haven't disables any phone/watch combinations.

It is a mystery to me too, why some people can't find the app.

it could be the country you operator from, or the type of phone you are using.

I have seen that on a certain moment there were 89 supported devices listed for this app, but suddenly it went down to 59.

don't know what is happening on the backside of the app store, seem pretty chaotic sometimes....