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[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I have made a new Demo video: Multi-Watch loading Watch Styler theme files directly on the Gear 2.

(at the moment for analog watches only)

Loading theme files on the Gear2

The previous version of the app is still "Under Device Test" by Samsung.

As soon as it has been approved, I will publish this update to the app (which requires Samsung approval again...)
[Samsung Gear 2] EVOme:
Can't wait for this release.!!!
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Me too!

But the initial release of this app is still not approved by samsung.

As soon as that happens, I will publish this update with wstheme selection.

In the mean time it has a proper selection list for selecting one of the theme files in your downloads Dir.

I'm pretty happy with the result so far myself too, but more updates need to come if the appears to be successfully.

In the mean time you can already start downloading your favorite wstheme files from gearfaces.com :laugh:
[Samsung Gear 2] EVOme:
I have already and placed them in the folder. So excited for all the faces about to come to me. Very nice work here!
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Don't trust Watch Styler too much, I looked at the source code of the Watch Styler wgt, believe me, it is far from finished...

It looked like a quick and simple port, with a few very basic mistakes.
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
I understood that without seeing the source code... :D

However... When a font looks wrong in two independent apps in only one OS, then I know that the problem is with the OS and not with the font :fingers-crossed:

But... where did you get access to the Watch Styler source code? Can it be found in Gear 2?

I didn't bother to look for it yet, as I expected it to be closed/secured source.

EDIT: Smart me... :rolleyes: ...I just unpacked the APK and found the wgt ... and imported it to Tizen IDE... I'll have a look :cool:
[Samsung Gear 2] samjunctio:
If you can give option to make time periodoptional that is also fine. I work in night shift and beep every hour comes handy.
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
Well... I did some further "research" and I can definitely conclude that there's something "strange" with the Digital7 font in Tizen that might not show up with Windows or Android

My research was nothing more than to copy/paste all relevant characters from Digital7.ttf to a clean new and empty font in FontForge, and save that to a new Seg7.ttf.

When I use this font in Tizen IDE and send the project to the emulator, it shows up perfect!

I don't know what made the font-tops chopped, because nothing has really changed to the characters. All relevant data about line-out and placement was copy/pasted with the character segments. It may have been something in the global font data... or some corrupt data in an unused character area...

Long story short... I think MultiWatch should not try to correct fonts that show up wrong at the emulator and on the watch itself. It does more harm than good to a lot of other themes ;)

When a font gets chopped and you're sure there's no other element "above" it, then there's definitely something strange going on with the font.

If you discover more theme-fonts with troubles, please tell me. I'll be glad to check them with the "FontForge trick" and update the theme(s) on Gearfaces.

I'll update the Nookas and my other themes that include the Digital7 font in the coming days/weeks. :)

At this moment I did not check if using the new font makes any difference in a WS-theme, but I'm almost sure that it will be solved because it is solved in the Tizen emulator. :fingers-crossed:
[Samsung Gear 2] likearaptor:
Am I the only one that can see Multi-Watch listed in the Samsung App Store as version 2.3, pictures of 2.3, release 2.3 changlelog, but my phone won't prompt me to update it to 2.3.0? It shows in the latest version number is still 2.2.0, but the pictures and text of the app talk about 2.3 and the price is $2.It's been like this since Monday. I am hoping it gets pushed out to me soon, I realllly would like to play with the new features. I am runnin ghte build prop model of a Note 2 with my Gear 1 (Tizen) so I can see all the new apps. When I change it back to being what it really is (S4) I see hardly any apps and Multi-Watch is still missing for the S4/Gear 1 (at least for me). I have uninstalled the Multi-Watch app and thought the install of it would grab 2.3, but it didn't work, I factory reset my gear thinking it would help me getting the 2.3 update but no, I even erased all the data for the Samsung store/Gear Manager apps and still 2.2.0. So I assume it is just how Samsung distributes updates? I am somewhat thinking of factory resetting my phone, but I'd rather not. If others are having this issue, I'll just wait a little longer :) Thanks again for an awesome app and thanks OpenMind for looking into the font issues :)
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Very strange that you see 2.3 but can't update it.

I have asked samsung why the new version (2.3) is only compatible with 55 device, while the old one (2.2) was compatible with 89 devices.

I did receive some answers, but they were useless.

They say the system automatically detects which devices are compatible...... Yeah Right.

(while checking again, i see that it went up to 57 devices....)

Currently for the 2.3 version the following phone/gear combinations are listed:

Device Group	Resolution(s)

Galaxy S5 광대역 LTE-A - Gear 1.0 / Tizen	1440x2560

Galaxy S5 광대역 LTE-A - Gear 2.0	1440x2560

Galaxy S5 광대역 LTE-A - Gear 2.0 Neo	1440x2560

Galaxy Note 3 - Gear 2.0	1080X1920

Galaxy Note 3 - Gear 2.0 Neo	1080X1920

Galaxy S4 - Gear 2.0	1080X1920

Galaxy S4 - Gear 2.0 Neo	1080X1920

Galaxy S4 Active - Gear 2.0	1080X1920

Galaxy S4 Active - Gear 2.0 Neo	1080X1920

Galaxy S5 - Gear 1.0 / Tizen 1	1080X1920

Galaxy S5 - Gear 2.0	1080X1920

Galaxy S5 - Gear 2.0 Neo	1080X1920

Galaxy Grand 2 - Gear 2.0	1280x720

Galaxy Grand 2 - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x720

Galaxy Mega (6.3) - Gear 2.0	1280x720

Galaxy Mega (6.3) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x720

Galaxy Note 3 Neo - Gear 2.0	1280x720

Galaxy Note 3 Neo - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x720

Galaxy Note II - Gear 2.0	1280x720

Galaxy Note II - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x720

Galaxy S III - Gear 2.0	1280x720

Galaxy S III - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x720

Galaxy Mega (5.8) - Gear 2.0	960X540

Galaxy Mega (5.8) - Gear 2.0 Neo	960X540

Galaxy Mega (5.8)_CMCC - Gear 1.0 / Tizen 1	960X540

Galaxy S4 mini - Gear 2.0	960X540

Galaxy S4 mini - Gear 2.0 Neo	960X540

Galaxy S4 zoom - Gear 2.0	960X540

Galaxy S4 zoom - Gear 2.0 Neo	960X540

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014E) - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014E) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro (10.1) - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro (10.1) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro (12.2) - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro (12.2) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro (8.4) - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro (8.4) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy Tab 4 (10.1) - Gear 2.0	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 (10.1) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 (7.0) - Gear 2.0	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 (7.0) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 (8.0) - Gear 2.0	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 (8.0) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x800

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014E) Wi-Fi - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014E) Wi-Fi - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro Wi-Fi (10.1) - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro Wi-Fi (10.1) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro Wi-Fi (12.2) - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro Wi-Fi (12.2) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro Wi-Fi (8.4) - Gear 2.0	1600x2560

Galaxy TabPro Wi-Fi (8.4) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1600x2560

Galaxy Tab 4 Wi-Fi (10.1) - Gear 2.0	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 Wi-Fi (10.1) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 Wi-Fi (7.0) - Gear 2.0	1280x800

Galaxy Tab 4 Wi-Fi (7.0) - Gear 2.0 Neo	1280x800

Galaxy S4 - Gear 2.0 Solo	1080X1920

Galaxy S5 - Gear 2.0 Solo	1080X1920
[Samsung Gear 2] likearaptor:
Thanks a bunch :) I'll be changing my S4 to a S5 now from what it looks like :D

Galaxy S5 - Gear 1.0 / Tizen 1	1080X1920
[Samsung Gear 2] JimSmith94:
Same for me with my Note 3 (not Neo). I see 2.3 in the app store but can't upgrade to it. It says it's installed but I have 2.2.
[Samsung Gear 2] likearaptor:
After I changed my build prop model to the S5, rebooted the phone, I saw the update as soon as I went into the app in the Samsung Store :D, so maybe you need to pick one of the phones int he list that shows support, find out it's model in the build.prop for that phone and change the one line. The way I found out what the S5 Sprint model name was is after not finding it through searching google/xda I just downloaded a ROM for the Sprint S5, extracted the zip, and looked at the build.prop. The safest way I know of. But it can take a little while downloading a 1-3 GB zip file.
[Samsung Gear 2] yohappy:
notification icon

klwinkel in your next version update can you fix the notification icon to have a counter on it

so you can see if you missed a call or msg ( favorite gestures) Thanks :)
[Samsung Gear 2] leojab:
Oh yes, that will be a excellent feature
[Samsung Gear 2] Turipz:
Where is the app?

Hi. Where and how can I get this app? I searched everywhere, and can't find it for download anywhere. The only thing I could find was version 2.2.1, in the Google play store, but it says "only download if you already have the gear 2 multi watch app", which is where, exactly?
[Samsung Gear 2] kopek:
note 3 and gear 1

hi can i use this app with my note 3 and samsung gear 1 with tizen? many thanks for reply
[Samsung Gear 2] rEVOLVE:
I've brought up Glance and Canvas Pebble apps before that offer this functionality (along with the "next appointment" functionality I've been requesting). I think for those people who want to customize a dashboard type watchface to use on work days, it's a big help. Not every watch face needs to be a "watch", and I think there's an opportunity for your app to be able to help with this, because of the way we can customize watchfaces, save them, and load them back at will. That way we can have nice, fancy watch faces for showing off, and then switch to an all-business info-dense version when needed.

Here are some examples of what those look like on the Pebble - with weather and appointments, watch & phone battery level status,etc. Obviously there is even more potential on the Gear considering the higher dpi compared to this.

As you can see, for weather, a small weather icon and maybe the temperature is sufficient for most people's needs. On my Metawatch Frame I could even get a 5 day forecast that was a row of small icons, one for each upcoming day.

-an alternative- as I suggested earlier is to put these on the swipe-up panel that currently has the shortcuts. I love the shortcuts and hope you put an option to go to 3x3 on the swipe-up panel. As of now, I have the Watch-On remote, Schedule, and Weather as the shortcuts on that panel, but being able to add more would be nice.

As an option, you could put weather and next appointment on the top half of the screen and at the bottom do a grid of 3x2 shortcut icons. The main watch face can still be a clean design while this info and shortcuts are just a swipe away. I think for my needs, that would complete some missing capability not just from Multi-Watch, but the Tizen Gear's in general.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
The gear app is in the Samsung Apps Store, called Galaxy Apps Store nowadays.

Start the Galaxy Apps Store from the Gear Manager.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Technically Yes, but it could be that this phone/gear combination is not in the device compatibility list (yet)

check the list posted e few posts earlier.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Thanks for thinking with me and the suggestions.

I agree that currently it is too much swiping and clicking to get the info you want, To put an info screen on the swipe-up can be an option yes.

The info screen can still contain the time/date, but show other info as well as you show on the pebble.

maybe two swipe-up gestures after each other, first to the info screen, second to the app shortcuts.

Watch can remember the current screen (currently it falls back to the watch face automatically after screen-off)

But it will take some time to make, Currently I am also working on the port of an android app to ios, which I was planning to have ready for the summer holidays....
[Samsung Gear 2] rEVOLVE:
I appreciate your consideration - I feel these last additions would really put the app over the top for me, as they are functions I miss since going to this watch from the Pebble. Since you added the shortcut panel, this is one of the most used and useful apps for me and these features definitely help make the watch more of an "assistant" when doing business. For my work, that means it saves me time and helps me be more productive so my offer to send you more money for this still stands - please give me your Paypal so I can send it to you. I still think you can make a "Multi-Watch Pro" for another fee that includes the more advanced functions you're adding now.

As for the "two swipe-up" gestures, I'm not sure if that serves the goal of making "efficient" interface - as it's adding another layer/swipe. I would rather see either a mixed panel option to get half info, half shortcuts like I requested so it only takes one swipe to get there OR make a "hotspot" on the screen to trigger a panel besides a swipe. For example, you can keep the swipe up for shortcuts (please do 3x3 :) ) and touching the date on the main watch screen could launch the info panel w/ weather/appointments/missed notifications/connectivity & battery stats, etc. Actually I just tested and you could probably get away with making the whole screen a tap target to launch the info panel, keep the center area tap-target to get at settings, and swipe up for shortcuts.

Also, not sure if you confirmed whether or not you'd offer an option for a short day and date in the form factor : "Mon Jun 14"
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I will add the short day form factor.
[Samsung Gear 2] Turipz:
No such app

Ok, this is why developers should not write user guides, right? When (if ever) have you - the developer, tried to locate the app to see it is available for other users (not logged in anywhere as developer or other privileged user - just as a regular user)?

Do you understand that I (and apparently other people who've posted about the same issue) cannot find your app ANYWHERE - including Google Play AND in the Samsung / Galaxy App store or in the Gear Manager Apps? I cannot even find it using a simple Google search - which would normally find such an app and provide a link to wherever it is. The only thing Google comes up with for "multi-watch" is your video for version 2.3 on YouTube (the demo video for this elusive app), to this forum where you posted that it was available for purchase (which is why I joined, so I can ask you for help here), and to the older version - 2.2.1, which I have installed and paid for, but:

A. This version says you must have another multi-watch app already installed before using this one - where is this required app? I cannot find that one anywhere either.

B. This version 2.2.1 that I paid for and installed doesn't seem to do anything related to your demo video - it only allows me to load watch faces from watchfaces.com - which I was already doing manually without a problem, so I hope I didn't just pay $1.48CAD for an unnecessary alternative watch face installer for something I can already do manually for free. So the question here is - where is this version 2.3, and does this version do more than 2.2.1 does on my phone and watch?

Please try to login as a regular user, and see if you can locate your own 2 apps (the one you write must be installed before the other one can work), and the new version 2.3 app. If you can then find your own apps as a regular user - can you please post direct links to both of them so I and others can use them, and not frustrate your paying customers by telling them the obvious, as you did in your reply to my initial post, without first asking if when I posted saying "I searched EVERYWHERE" I really meant "EVERYWHERE" (as in "yes - I did search the "Galaxy App Store" too)?...

Thank you
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
Gear Manager - Samsung Apps - Category - Clock

I see it immediately as it shows up as the second app.

If you can't find it there, you should blame Samsung instead of the developer. The developer created the app and not the app-store.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Many users are helped by saying they have to start the app store from the gear manager, it appears to give different results compared to starting the Galaxy apps store directly from the phone.

Unfortunately I'm not a user of the Samsung phone, I prefer the Nexus series......

I do have a few Samsung phones, but non of them is compatible with the Gear.

So I am not able myself to search in the app store for my own apps.

But actually that shouldn't be needed anyway, because as a developer I publish the app, Samsung takes care of the other side of the store.

I think the problem totally is with Samsung for not making the app visible to everybody.

I don't know why some phones (even very new ones) can not see the app.

I tried to ask samsung until it drove me to madness, because you get answers like: "... because the phone is not on the list of supported devices..".

BUT WHY IS IT NOT ON THAT LIST????????

Then I get the answer: "The list is made automatically..." etc etc.

Maybe you can try to ask Samsung....

If you are using a rooted phone, you can try to spoof a supported one, but to be honest it is ridiculous that such a thing is needed to get a simple app.

My daughter has a S4-mini, maybe she'll let me use hers to give it a try to see the S. apps store and search for my own app.

BTW, in the description of the android phone app it is clearly stated that that app is useless without he Gear app.

Once you have the Gear app installed, it will let you download and load themes onto the gear from your phone.
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
In fact these two are totally different stores!

Gear apps can not be found in the Samsung app store for phones!
[Samsung Gear 2] Turipz:
To OpenMind_NL (and klwinkel's subsequent reply too)

Excuse me, 'OpenMind_NL', but you are wrong.

I have worked in development companies for many years, and managed many developers and development projects (Computer Associates, Check Point SW Technologies, PokerStars and others.

A. A professional developer ('professional' as in - charging money for their work, as is the case with this paid app), MUST perform proper QA on their work before release (and as I wrote in my previous post - preferably letting a separate and qualified QA specialist do it, but if that cannot be done - the dev needs to do it, but do it PROPERLY.

B. As you can see by his reply - he has not done that (Quote: "Unfortunately I'm not a user of the Samsung phone, I prefer the Nexus series, I do have a few Samsung phones, but non of them is compatible with the Gear"). The dev has NOT tested in their expected users' environment prior to release or, for that matter - in post-release either (nor has the dev warned anywhere that they have not thoroughly tested their app, or warned users it was only tested in a limited environment which does not necessarily represent the entire user population for this app, as it is presented in the app store). Saying you develop for a platform but don't have the means to test on that platform yet still charging money for your work (and not being able to refund it, as now it is in Samsung's hands)

It's nice that you want to "defend your own", as you apparently tried to do, but if you want to develop for yourself - keep on with this attitude, but if you want to develop for actual users - you need to stop thinking like a "Developer" and start thinking like someone who actually wants to encourage people to pay for your work - by giving them proper service, doing a professional (and complete) job - meaning DEV+TESTING ONLY≠Product, but DEV+TESTING+QA=Product

This is what I find when I go to the Gear Manager (see attached)

Pictures 1 and 2 are from "Galaxy Apps" in my phone

Pictures 3 and 4 are from "Gear Manager" itself

The simple solution to this could be to post the install file to allow side-installation... Would that be asking too much if I already paid for an apparently useless version 2.2.1?... :(
[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
I don't try to defend anybody. All I wanted to do is show you where to find the app.

Again: If you can't find it in the Samsung Gear Manager app store then you should contact Samsung as the developer does not have any responsibility for the store. As I pointed out, I can see the app immediately.... not logged in as a developer but as a 'simple' Dutch user with Note3 phone and Gear 2 watch.

About getting all the service you want... Do you think it is reasonable to expect that for a 1 euro app? 1 euro is hardly enough to call it a reasonable payment. Expecting a professional service for that price is not professional at all. I am sure [MENTION=3231225]klwinkel[/MENTION] will help you whenever he's able to.
[Samsung Gear 2] OGroteKoning:
I don't want to get involved in your squabble, but I feel I must correct you. When you charge a price for the use of a service or product, it is viewed as "professional". The dev does not ask for a donation, he warrants money for the use of his app(s). Whether it is a low or high price for the app/service is totally irrelevant. The moment you offer an app for a price, you are obliged to render a proper product and service to paying customers (or customers willing to pay). I'm not sure what Google/Samsung requires for proper pre- and post paid service, but I'm sure they will be able to give guidelines.
[Samsung Gear 2] Turipz:
How about this?

The bottom line is this:

I am also using a "regular" Note 3, and a "regular" Gear 2 Neo watch, and I am a 'simple' Canadian user. I want this app, and I ended up paying for what appears to be its useless predecessor, which I have no need for.

I am trying to get the app that was advertised on this forum - version 2.3, which you seem to be able to get, but I cannot.

Since I already paid the developer for the previous version which turned out to not provide what this version does - I would appreciate it if the developer would agree to send me the APK for the 2.3 version instead, with whatever is needed to make it work (i.e. - any other app the developer requires to be installed for this one to work properly).

My question for the developer is: can that happen, or not?

Thank you / Dank U, Goedenavond!
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I AM offering a proper product AND a proper service.

I always try to help people/users within my possibilities, I think I qualify for a professional developer.

If there's a problem with the app, I'll try to fix it, if there's a wish for extra function, I'll try to implement them.

I even started new thread for this particular app, to make communication easier and learn from each other.

What more can I do?
[Samsung Gear 2] Turipz:
To klwinkel

Hello klwinkel.

I wasn't saying you were not - but I am frustrated with what is happening here, as I DO believe you should have followed more fundamental steps for QA'ing this app - as per your own statement about not having the necessary devices.

The bottom line is as I wrote earlier, and I have sent you a personal message - which I would appreciate if you could reply to, as I am hoping this can be easily resolved.

I do very much appreciate your work, and thank you for replying thus far.

Regards
[Samsung Gear 2] OGroteKoning:
I was not attacking you at all. I was merely addressing the parameters of professionalism which was confused because of the relative price charged.