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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Gblake13:
So if I flash the jb bl version of this rom I still use the 4.4 gaps right? Gapps go by what the ROM is not the stock it's flashed from right?

Sent from my DROID RAZR M
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] kabaldan:
Well, there's still Emerson (though very busy with family and job, very much like me :) ) with latam xt925 that is supposed to get kk by the end of August...

I'm considering to get an european xt925 if I see a good second hand deal for it...

Or someone else will step in...

Hard to say at this point.

But the answer to the actual question is: if there will be no maintainer that owns kk updated moto_msm8960 device, then yes, the support will end.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
Yes, use 4.4 Gapps
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
But as long as there is a moto msm jb owner, we're good, right?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] thewraith420:
If I understand it right then yes the jbbl builds should keep going as long as we've got a maintainer for it. Currently to my knowledge we've got 2.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] seasonone:
Is there any confirmation on this? It's one thing for a company to not care about bugs on a small group of peoples obscure phone but it's another to not care about a bunch of lawsuits from battery injuries.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] TheForceUnleashed:
They did push a soak test fixing bugs in July, a 4.4.2 update with 4.4.4 fixes. Maybe they're rethinking 4.4.4?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
I was looking for the main bugs in the bootloader as it was bothering me for a while (lost lot of sleep on it as I know how dangerous an angry and burning Lithium-ion cell is), and I have determined that there are two serious bugs: Battery management and CPU watchdog. What it means is that without watchdog timers to watch, the CPU is free to run away (in turn, HOT! HOT! phones), and that the battery management microcontroller is thereby confused, cannot tell what's the right percentage and I don't know how the circuit breaker in the phone will respond to thermal runaway. Motorola have already been paying for the damages and giving away a few new phones as an apology. The fix is on the way, in both OS and bootloader, to ensure the fireworks will never happen again.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] rahimali:
Meanwhile would it not be best to post a sticky warning users about these issues and asking those users who wish to migrate to KK to stick with the JB BL based KK ROMs?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
This, I will agree with. If the moderator is ok with that, I will put up the PSA. Verizon on other hand have been frantically replacing the phones affected by bugs.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] rahimali:
Let's name the bug "hot pants syndrome" :D
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Ah, yes. That sounds right. XD

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Ok, where shall I post the KK bootloader cautionary PSA? I just don't want to experience the wrath of the moderators, and want to be sure.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] rahimali:
how about reporting your own post to the mods :D
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
I may write new post in General to describe the scope of seriousness of those bootloader bugs.

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PSA: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2840805
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Since no one believed me, guess I won't be bothering anymore. If the phone bursts in flame, who is to blame?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
My phone was pretty toasty on the kk boot loader, my dad is still on it...
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
Some devices have the problem, some don't.

This is a open forum, and you will get replies from across the board. I'm sure the people that have this problem will take it into consideration, but for those of us that don't, It's not really a factor.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Perhaps not a matter of belief but rather just that not many people have experienced this first hand even though it is a real possibility. As for blame: The Motorola disclaimer that appears on some phones after the bootloader is unlocked clearly places blame on the user doing the tweaking or at least gets Motorola out of the blame path.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
I fully knew this disclaimer well: not my first time unlocking the bootloader. In this case, problems happened before I rooted and unlocked it. I unlocked it anyways to see if the phone can stay cool on CM11. Yet, Motorola is still to be blamed; problems also have occurred on many locked phones, hence they are responsible for it still. Thus disclaimer is kinda pointless in some case.

I usually underclock my RAZR M phone on either CM 11 or stock Jelly Beans to run at 1 GHz frequency, never over 1.5 GHz.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
True that, and I was not blaming you. I've never seen anything like that on my Atrix HD. Maybe the RazrM be more prone to that sort of issue?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
So far I know of two variants of Snapdragon S4+ MSM8960, both on regular Silicon : Germanium / Silicon : Oxynitride SOI (Silicon on insulator) process, and SOI / HkMG combo (28HPL or HPM? HkMG = High-dielectric Metal Gate) processes. I suspect mine has HkMG variant as well, so it could be intolerant to slightly higher voltage (50 or 100mV above JB kernel's standard voltage), but who knows? SOI variants seem to tolerate slight overvoltage better than HkMG flavor.

Of course, there are few parts that actually generate heats on the board as well: low-noise microwave amplifier (for cellular and Bluetooth / WiFi link), CPU voltage regulator chip, NFC radio driver (?), and 5 Volts boost converter for USB-OTG.

There are many factors that would make a phone warm. The only phone I have at this moment that oftentimes run HOT is a Samsung Galaxy Precedent. (Ah, ARMv6... That reminds me of an Intel 80486 processor....)
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Something is certain.... you know a lot about the hardware :) As for the 486 generation; That was the biggest thing in the world at the time - for those who were weaning off of 8088s. Now I'm feelin' old. Where is my cane?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Technology really evolve pretty quickly. I do indeed have one 80486 computer (need to fix it up and probably install the simple Linux on it), and I also was given an Intel 8088 computer (Tandy 1000HX?). Nowaday, the PCs are a lot more like personal supercomputers.

(Sorry about off-topic. XD)
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] rahimali:
Doc, I wasn't on the KK bootloader for more than a day or two so can't share my personal experience because I hated all the bloat that came with the stock firmware (both JB and KK). Once BL unlocked, I tried out my current favorite (on other devices) ParanoidAndroid but quickly came face-to-face with Wi-Fi issues so switched back to JB.

But one thing I always do when flashing custom ROMs is I remove all NFC related files prior since I have no use for it anyways. If you could try that, you could maybe rule-in or rule-out NFC as a (or one of the) culprit(s)...

Damn! Some ancient relics lurking around in these here forums. I too started off with an 8086 or 8088, I'm not sure which one (see I'm even starting to lose my memory now) and it wasn't even my own PC. My own first was an 80386SX operating at a mind-blowing 25 MHz with a whopping 2 MB memory and a very spacious 40 MB hard drive... :D OP sorry for OT :angel:
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Alright, from what I know, the NFC smartcard emulation is indeed done by proprietary driver, and I will try grabbing recent CM11 and perform the surgery (swapping in Verizon Kit Kat stock's NFC driver into JB_BL version of CM11) - I have money in the card so I can try this.

EDIT: Alright, repacked the CM11 with the NFC driver from the stock VZW Kit Kat. Have to recharge my phone soon.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ofmb:
Someone here has experience with xposed modules developing?

A nifty hack the screen dimming issue could be disabling and re-enabling auto brightness on screen wakeup :good:
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] xKroniK13x:
Still running the 7-29 Mictest build on KK BL, maybe I'm just lucky, but performance is good and dat battery life...

Sent from my RAZR M (CM Nightlies) from Tapatalk Pro.

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I'm interested in coding modules... I'll research into this.

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] thewraith420:
Just thinking about it... Might be easier to disable on screen off and Enable on screen on
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] xKroniK13x:
My thoughts too. I'm on vacation at the moment but will code when I get home. I may need a guinea pig for it, as I'm still on KB BL.

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] mrkhigh:
The heat up issue:

I noticed my phone getting really hot

When I first received kitkat.

To make matters worse I just put it in an otter box so heat was no longer getting out from the back.

It was all the location service calls turning on the GPS. Rooting and removing permissions for all non essential apps seemed to fix it getting hot in my pocket and battery life.

So I blame mostly the gapp settings I guess. Since search and Google now we're the main eaters.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Ouch. Looks like both bootloader bugs and Kit Kat messes have surely made a perfect Pandora's Box, huh?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] romma1:
I may DL to an old JB build. They were rock solid.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] thewraith420:
Why not the new jb builds? They're working great for me and several others
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Here here! I'm still running the 8/5/14 8960 JBBL nightly and it's doing great on my Atrix HD (MB886), though it should be noted that the MB886 seems to have experienced less problems in recent builds even apart from the JB/KK Bootloader divide.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
Any word on an auto brightness fix?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] xKroniK13x:
No sir. Just got a new web development job that I have to get done ASAP. But I am going to hopefully find time this weekend for Xposed. But between the semester starting for classes this week, working my job and now also this web development, I can't make any promises. I need to research just how difficult Xposed is to code for, if it will take less than 8 hours I can more than likely get it done.

Sent from my RAZR M (CM Nightlies) from Tapatalk Pro.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
How difficult it is depends on how you make the app out and what's its intended functions are for. Some are boring easy a 8-year-old can do, others are more difficult and a product of diligent and tedious researches.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
On another note, my klick won't work with the JB boot loader, its recognized as a button, but actually clicks, vs doing a task.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54829626&postcount=3963
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
So what does that mean?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] thewraith420:
That the kk bootloader builds will have a maintainer. I can only use jbbl anyway but it's definitely good news
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] tetzlav:
If I have bad wifi connection and turn my RAZR M in landscape mode wifi works fine again. Maybe the wifi driver use the wrong antenna (polarization)?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Polarization should not matter for all practicality and intents in normal use. WiFi antenna in the phone is normally a straight line etched on separate PCB (printed-circuit board).
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] mrkhigh:
Easy enough to test. Change the polarization on your router.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Huh? 802.11 specification whitepaper never said anything about polarization except for upcoming 60 GHz WiFi band. Polarization doesn't really matter at 2.4 GHz - it may for 5 GHz but not worth worrying about it. However, polarization may be obvious if you are too far from the router - if near the router, polarization doesn't matter at all.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] tetzlav:
hopefully to get this wifi fix from team gummy...

https://twitter.com/dhacker29/status/501843985112244224
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
Fixed...

http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/71056/
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] mrkhigh:
Mic fix and I get to try this out..,
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] SCFirefighter:
That's the speakerphone fix. No sign of the wifi fix yet.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
He said that he pushed the WiFi fix, but I don't see it.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] SCFirefighter:
He just answered that question on twitter. Here is the commit:

https://github.com/CyanogenMod/andr...mmit/13df898776edb42ac77c5cdb1aeade4d01434954

I know our build process pulls in this kernel code from the remote repository, but I have no clue if this is a live pull during the build process, or if it is synchronized only on demand by a CM maintainer. Are our nightlies using this commit yet?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
He pushed it a few days ago, so I believe it's been in a few nightlies.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] VannMann:
I dirty flashed the 23 build, and the speaker phone still didn't work. Anyone else have this problem? If not, I'll redo the whole shebang.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
Not here, clean flashed 8960 jbbl 8/23/14 nightly on Atrix HD/MB886 = speakerphone and most other stuff OK, although I am chasing what might be GPS lock issue for the first time.

<edit> GPS thing was just a longer than usual time to first lock. happened when I reverted to previous build as well. 8/23/14 nightly looking good on this phone, though Atrix HD and Razer M have different problem sets on the same unified ROM<edit>
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] TheForceUnleashed:
I believe he was talking about the 8/23 kk BL build.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] IronTechmonkey:
D'oh! and there it is right in the sig. Thanks :) Though I don't wish technological misery on anyone, the problems with the KK bootloader have sure helped us old jbbl folks, but we're still pulling for you kkbl peeps and may follow along before long.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Outta:
running latest nightly (KK bootloader), no wifi.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] AndyYan:
Dang, same here. Just bought my 2nd Droid RAZR M and happily flashed CM11 (KK BL), only to find that WiFi connection halts at "Obtaining IP address...". I can grab logs if you want.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ej1911:
For those with WiFi problems, which recovery are you using? I'm running Gummy and had WiFi problems using TWRP, switched to Philz and it went away.

Might be a coincidence, but worth a try.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ilichva:
Does anyone have any working 3g CDMA ((JB BL)?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] AndyYan:
Nah, I guess you're using JB BL, because PhilZ doesn't work with KK BL. Tried CWM 6.0.4.9 but still no luck.

As I understand from the previous posts this WiFi issue is close to getting a fix - is that right?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] kehres83:
I think there is a philz touch for the kk bootloader
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] AndyYan:
Is that so? At least the 6.00.8 in Original Development section doesn't work. Please show me a link if you still have it.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ej1911:
100% certain I'm on kk with the latest Philz

https://goo.im/devs/philz_touch/CWM_Advanced_Edition/moto_msm8960/
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] kehres83:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2686374&page=19

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] AndyYan:
Ooh, I don't know they have a unified version put in another folder. Will try that (although unlikely to be the culprit), thanks!

Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ej1911:
Let me know if it works. It did the trick for me on Gummy. That was the only variable that I changed that got WiFi working there.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] kehres83:
The latest knightly for gummy should already have the WiFi fix
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ej1911:
It has for a while, but I kept getting driver loading errors and WiFi would not turn on at all. It would happen sporadically, but once it did, it was persistent. Reboots and reflashes did not help. Did quite a few controlled tests to make sure it wasn't a bad download or a setup issue.

Got curious and tried Philz and it has been bug free ever since.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] AndyYan:
...and that didn't work. PhilZ 6.48.4 for KK BL, and still stuck at "Obtaining IP address".

Meanwhile, I've also found that GPS doesn't seem to give me any satellite at all. I'll try going to stock and get a lock, then see what happens.

These are all mentioned issues but here's hoping that they can be remedied soon.

Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
When the source code for the Aus XT905 phone is released, since it is "newer" and from MOTO, would/could/will it possibly contain "fixes" to the KK Bootloader that would be merged into CM that would fix some/any of the KKBL issues?

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54858809&postcount=4
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] morgud:
I had the same issue as https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/MC-39 and finally fixed it by downgrading to Jelly Bean (4.1.2) stock and then using the CM 11 _jbbl nightly: http://mrbluecoat.blogspot.com/2014/07/tutorial-installing-cyanogenmod-on.html

P.S. Some users are reporting success with the 9/2 nightly of Gummy: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2609966&page=23
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] AndyYan:
Same here, JB BL CM11 works for now and supports arrrghhh's kernel. I'm sticking to it for the moment.

Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] zike47222:
Is this daily driver stable? Does the gsm work cause thats what i need.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
[MENTION=4112553]dhacker29[/MENTION]

6/11 test build boots up fine for me.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Klen2:
Now it is 2:2. Me and [MENTION=4427492]ATTACK[/MENTION] can flash it without problem, [MENTION=4497368]furkonhesti[/MENTION] and [MENTION=5160394]St.Noigel[/MENTION] are getting bootloop. It needs more testers.

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] furkonhesti:
Finally it can boot..everyone who get bootloop..you must format internal storage before flash..it can avoid bootloop..
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Klen2:
I have never formated internal storage and it worked, but nice to hear it works.

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] furkonhesti:
Yeah finally :) thanks klen2 for your support..BTW did you find any bug in this cm build so far?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Klen2:
Just GPS

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] furkonhesti:
GPS and music working good on 0611 in mine
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] romma1:
I wonder when we will be able to flash a 3.4 coming straight form an AOSP rom...?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] furkonhesti:
I rollback to stock kitkat due to on 0611 version screen dimming issue still persist
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] CamoCustom:
I can't seem to find gapps package, could someone point me in the right direction? And 4.4.2 or 4.4.3 gapps?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
4.4.3 Gapps

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] CamoCustom:
Thank you very much
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Klen2:
Anybody having problem with wifi on Dhacker's CM11? For me it randomly disconnects sometimes. And Play music is always giving me some errors
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
Hey, I don't want to be that noob, but I'm getting a Razr M tomorrow, what's not working on here?

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Ah, are there only unoffical builds now? It would seem so...
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] bofis:
No, there are official builds (unified now for all Droid Razrs) available here, but the nightlies are totally stable and good:

http://www.cmxlog.com/11/moto_msm8960/

And if you're getting a new one, and it's already updated to 4.4.2, previous Root methods will not work, but the Towel Root apk does the charm:

http://towelroot.com/
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
Yeah, I tried working on this phone a while back, found out it didn't have kexec, so there were no ROM's available. For flashing recovery, would I go into Fastboot mode, then do fastboot flash recovery?

Next... Do you suggest CWM or TWRP? I typically stick with CWM either way. And lastly, which gapps do you suggest, I'm not sure what the ROM size is.

Whew, sorry. I loved the Gnex community, I hope this one is just as good :D I might start ROM development, just need to brush up on my code and get a new VM running.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
The OP gives all the links you need for CM11 as long as your phone is on 4.1.2 JellyBean. If your phone has been updated to the 4.4.2 OTA, then you cannot use the CM11 msm8960 builds. Dhacker29 has recovery and some CM11 test builds for the 4.4.2 OTA HERE. You'll have plenty of space for a ROM and any FULL Gapps and I prefer TWRP.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
Wait, what if my bootloader is unlocked after 4.4.2? Nice to see you again, by the way. My R800X crapped out a year ago :/
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
The 4.4.2 OTA, also updated the kernel to 3.4.x, which needs to be ported over to CM11. The msm8960 builds are for the older 3.0.x kernel. No ROM right now supports the devices on the 4.4.2 OTA. Dhacker29 has been putting in work on CM11 3.4.x kernel, just use his test builds. My R800x sits in the closet. :laugh:
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
I took the shell off of mine, the slide ribbon broke and I didn't feel like fixing it. Alright, sweet. And how do you flash recovery again? Sorry!
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] teckem:
I haven't had any issues with GSM or Data problems.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] AndyYan:
Yes it does, full GSM/WCDMA/HSPA+ support out of the box.

Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM11

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] guliboy123:
Hi,

I have a strange problem: when I use the Dialer it shows the frequent contacts fine but when i go to recent/call log nothing shows up, no calls at all. What could I be doing wrong?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] xKroniK13x:
What Gapps did you use? Try clearing cache.

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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] morgud:
FYI, my GPS works fine on Navigator, RunKeeper, GPS Test, etc. but on Google Maps I get a giant blue circle indicating my coarse accuracy isn't locking onto my position. I'm running the latest CM 11 nightly on Motorola Razr M. Thoughts?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jrk190:
How is the kk boot loader Roms?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] morgud:
Worse. I couldn't get a reliable GPS lock with KK bootloader and my WiFi wouldn't connect to my home network. At least now my WiFi is okay and I can get high accuracy GPS (just not coarse accuracy, ironically)
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] kehres83:
WiFi is working on kk?

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