yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M8) General] dmo.jr:
Sound's true for a developper not normal users like me
[One (M8) General] Gunkk:
1.57 cannot.
[One (M8) General] beaups:
Wut
[One (M8) General] billydroid:
Considering they have only to worry about one device on ios. Here the people working on exploits, root,etc... Are spread across many many devices.
[One (M8) General] P4THOG3N:
Just realized the display is lifting off the casing my my M8.. wtf! Going to try and get it swapped and cross my fingers for a non-whelp device.
[One (M8) General] mushages:
whelp is better than patched :p;)
[One (M8) General] raikesy:
Bought mine day 1, can't get S-OFF. don't think this issue is determined by age of the device tbh.
[One (M8) General] rasta312:
So last acting s-off is at 1.54.401.10?
[One (M8) General] snake4fun:
Does that means no s-off on 1.54.401.5?

Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] rasta312:
s-off works on 1.54.401.5 and on 1.54.401.10

Wysłane z mojego HTC One M8 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[One (M8) General] Justin2003:
I Am on a dutch Vodafone branded M8 with software 1.54.161.10.

Will firewater s-off works for me or not.
[One (M8) General] GraveDigger176:
only test gives you the answer :good:

in adb on running android and usb debugging enable this feed in >>>>> adb shell cat "/sys/devices/msm_sdcc.1/mmc_host/mmc0/mmc0:0001/cid"

if your number starts with 150 or 450 you should be able to s-off

if your number starts with 90.... you're not able to s-off
[One (M8) General] koolcat7:
Do you know the reasoning for this theory? My number does start with 90. I wonder if we'll ever be able to s-off :confused:
[One (M8) General] jwsm:
Lots of people are saying that firewater no longer works after the recent OTA's because HTC may have patched the exploit but I am glad to say that I did not have such problems. I have the dev edition that came with 1.12.1540.17 and the latest OTA had updated that to 1.54.1540.9. Firewater took all of 30 seconds to do its magic, and succeeded after chugging four bottles.

Now that I have s-off on my device, will it stay that way permanently, or until such time that I decide to change it back? Is it possible for HTC to undo the s-off that we have achieved on our devices via one of their future OTA updates?
[One (M8) General] GraveDigger176:
i don't know the reason all what i know is that my m8 has this nr >>>> 90014a4841473464040501fb635c1100 and i'm not able to s-off
[One (M8) General] v1rk:
I have uk device and I have dev edition uk, got 1.154.0.9 ota but dev didn't i don't know how u got that either and dev device s-off without a hitch and no once you remove the s-OFF they won't be able to do much I think
[One (M8) General] jwsm:
That is what I am hoping for. Also, take a look at the following post and see if it applies to you:

Mine starts with 450, so maybe that is why I was able to do it.
[One (M8) General] matinm90:
See I doubt that. Mine starts with 450, and I wasnt able to do it, despite dozens of attempts I still get the "whelp" message. Must be something else. I have used firewater several times before with the M7, so I dont think its me doing something wrong. But hey thats just my experience.
[One (M8) General] morktista:
Hboot 3.18.0.000 HTC M8

Ive a Hboot 3.18.0.000, i dont see anyone else with this, can anyone shade some light on it for me and tell me if i can fix it, since i cant s-off with it
[One (M8) General] ninecats1:
my first 3 numbers are 450 and am unable to S-off. took an OTA update because i was an idiot... Tmobile brand phone. would being on a custom rom screw up firewater? if so i have not tried stock rom and firewater, not sure it would make a difference though.
[One (M8) General] v1rk:
All 5 uk devices have 90 but dev worked fine
[One (M8) General] jwsm:
Well, I guess that number is not a deciding factor(or the only deciding factor) then because from what I have read from the last few posts, having a 150 or a 450 does not guarantee you will be able to s-off while a 90 does not necessarily mean you will not be able to. So there is no telling how it would go until you actually try it on your own device.
[One (M8) General] mikeyinid:
According to the devs SN is a non factor. What he said, just do it and find out.
[One (M8) General] Gunkk:
1.75 firmware cannot be S-OFFed.
[One (M8) General] beaups:
says who? And where am I supposed to see "1.75" in that image?
[One (M8) General] Gunkk:
Oops 1.57 ... Dyslexia skrites anaig!
[One (M8) General] v1rk:
Double my donation to $200, I'm tired of the waiting game
[One (M8) General] siemensfun1:
i will 10$ for this

this i little but....
[One (M8) General] ninecats1:
same here, 1.57 tmo ota, killed firewater.
[One (M8) General] skinsfanbdh:
the answer is... no one knows for sure. if the device is patched by htc a new exploit would have to be found. so we just have to wait and see
[One (M8) General] M82A1-50:
Just throwing in a not for nothing here guys/gals but wouldn't it be more effective to put the comments about firewater failinf to yeild a positive result in the s-off - firewater thread?

see

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2632385&page=1

and

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2632351

This bounty thread is getting flooded for someone like myself who can only check it once per week and it would be awesome to see progress on any exploits or developer comments about taking us up on the bounty offer.

Cheers.
[One (M8) General] Mr Hofs:
My opinion :

This bounty stuff is getting out of hand, if some devices can't be made a-off its more difficult than the first successful xploit, which firewater provided for free (correct me if i am wrong) you really think this will increase development. Time = time and if the developer/s-off masters don't have that money won't speed it up.

Cheers.
[One (M8) General] The Great Dane:
Quite good opinion[emoji12]

That's why I think it would be a good idea to open a thread where people can discuss 1 bottle, 2bottles, whelp........ Seems like people can't or won't accept statements from both beaups and Jcase. . Same questions keeps popping up over and over again.

Doesn't matter how much you appeal to people they will still ask the same over and over again.

This thread was meant to be a bounty and nothing else.
[One (M8) General] blackice666:
Guys, can we make this happen? It will be easier for developers.
[One (M8) General] v1rk:
Re open firewater thread but wait that got closed when people was posting whelp etc
[One (M8) General] Oditius:
Firewater got my M8 S-Off..
[One (M8) General] pandaball:
Soooo I went back 5 pages and deleted 37 posts... for those keeping score, that's more than 2/3 of the posts here being off-topic.

I don't want to close this thread, since there are still active pledges and I'm sure no one wants this thread closed, so can we keep it on topic about the bounty? Thanks a bunch :highfive:
[One (M8) General] oRAirwolf:
Panda,

Thanks for keeping this post open. I would be super sad if it got closed because people can't keep their mouths shut. I personally have quite a bit of effort invested in this thread. Please let me know if there is anything I can do to help.
[One (M8) General] mikeyinid:
You know what would be better than bountys? Just donating to the dev. You all know he has put a ****load of time into firewater. Whether it worked for you or not saying thanks and showing appreciation goes alot further than saying you'll do something for them when they do something for you.

My first device wouldn't s-off, got an exchange and the new one did. Unfortunately I noticed a dead pixel last night that I cant unsee. I have a replacement inbound and I'm praying to the ancient alien gods it'll s-off :silly:

Can the OP add links to [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] preferred donation method? I'm sure I'm not the only one here that'd prefer to just donate out of appreciation for the work that he's done without implying he hasn't done enough.
[One (M8) General] npalmy:
Just donated... Thanks for the link.
[One (M8) General] Migwickert:
I'm in for $25. T-Mobile HTC One M8. Looking forward to S-off. Thanks.
[One (M8) General] alicious:
Sigh, I just got my replacement M8 with build 1.54.401.10 and.....

whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 2

chugging..........

remember the golden rule, NEVER take an OTA? Of course you don't

****** device patched by HTC, you are out of luck *********​

Donation of $25 pledged, this is ridiculous.
[One (M8) General] Zach23:
I have been following this thread and the s-off effort since day one. Obviously I have a whelp device and seeing towelroot gave me hope. So ill pledge 30 bucks.
[One (M8) General] rufh_s:
Sorry.. Towelroot?
[One (M8) General] Zach23:
Geohot just filled an 18 thousand dollar bounty for his rooting method called towelroot
[One (M8) General] beaups:
Yes and if it's anything like other bounties around xda, he will see $4k or so.
[One (M8) General] sirioo:
Firmware 1.54.401.10, but I get this message

Firewater 8.0.6.3

********* whelp, this sucks, firewater can not work on your device*********

********* no amount of reflashing, retrying, or ruuing will fix... **********

********* DO NOT COME TO IRC ASKING FOR UPDATES OR ETAS!!!!!! **********

********* if we are able to fix this issue, it will be announced **********

********* bye bye.....sorry it didn't work out. **********
[One (M8) General] Root-Maniac:
Exactly what i said a few pages back. People dont pay there pledge, then they wonder why Devs dont want to release anything. its a slap in the face.
[One (M8) General] oRAirwolf:
Half of something is better than all of nothing
[One (M8) General] mikeyinid:
Just got my replacement, and it got s-off. Not that it matters but the id starts with 150...
[One (M8) General] beaups:
4k != half of 18k. Anyhow, with that philosophy I'd like to hire you to do some work.
[One (M8) General] oRAirwolf:
Haha very true. All I can say is that you will get my $50.
[One (M8) General] thekalby:
Thinking of replacing my device via HTC. Are all the newer firmwares unable to get S-Off?
[One (M8) General] jeryx:
Hey beaups, I know what you are thinking about, but you should believe of the members who are living HTC one m8. Who wants a fully working machine with all possibilities. I'm one of these guys... So please keep it up and you can be sure to get your gift! Thanks in advance! I'll be there if the time is right!

Jeryx
[One (M8) General] Mr Hofs:
No as you could have read one page back there is a report that a 1.54.401.10 device couldn't get s-off. So the answer = no
[One (M8) General] thekalby:
Meaning what?
[One (M8) General] Granite1:
The new firmware is not compatible with the current S-off exploit.

Also I believe this is off topic for this thread. We should be talking about this in the Firewater thread.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
updated! :) we are at $888 max and $687 min :victory::victory:
[One (M8) General] The Great Dane:
And I'll put in another 30$

Leedroid will soon return ?
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
Legend :) :good:

---------- Post added at 04:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:35 PM ----------

I can bump mine up by ten to $40

oRAirwolf $25

exocetdj $40

The Great Dane $60

fmedrano1977 $20

kuailan $20

dying4004 $15

G0B1IN5486 $20

master_beta $20

aaronc_98 $20

neilmcd $20

Lupus77 $20

Garmig $25

kleiner81 $20

regalpimpin $5

sirioo $20

billydroid $10

garynagra $20

Clamhost $20/$30/$50

illogic6 $20

downwiththebanksters $10

boe323 £20 ($34)

animaleyes76 $20

purecard $30

sari94 $30

wikie €10 ($14)

zcrugby $10 CAD ($9)

jcase $10

Sonic2756 $30

sjeffrey $10

snake3276120 $25

ianford10 $85 (£50) ($170 further if exploit found in 20 days)

$727 (at least) $1028 max (if certain conditions met)
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Seems you did if some *conditions* are met :good: Good job everyone. I can't make any pledges or anything....Don't know if it works on my device or not, still haven't tried, work taking up most of my time :mad:
[One (M8) General] kuailan:
I will up my ante...bonus $30 IF someone can come up with S-off before end of May....that will be $50!
[One (M8) General] agarp:
Ill put $10
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
oRAirwolf $25

exocetdj $40

The Great Dane $60

fmedrano1977 $20

kuailan $20 ($50 if before end of may)

dying4004 $15

G0B1IN5486 $20

master_beta $20

aaronc_98 $20

neilmcd $20

Lupus77 $20

Garmig $25

kleiner81 $20

regalpimpin $5

sirioo $20

billydroid $10

garynagra $20

Clamhost $20/$30/$50

illogic6 $20

downwiththebanksters $10

boe323 £20 ($34)

animaleyes76 $20

purecard $30

sari94 $30

wikie €10 ($14)

zcrugby $10 CAD ($9)

jcase $10

Sonic2756 $30

sjeffrey $10

snake3276120 $25

ianford10 $85 (£50) ($170 further if exploit found in 20 days)

agarp $10

slainte79 $10

$747 (at least) $1078 max (if certain conditions met)
[One (M8) General] slainte79:
$10 from me
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
updated :good:
[One (M8) General] mattrb:
$10 for me
[One (M8) General] jbwdevos:
Sign me up for $10,-

Verstuurd vanaf mijn HTC One_M8 met Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] beaups:
I'm in for $50 if it's complete by the end of May.
[One (M8) General] jbwdevos:
We know that you are one of the developers of firewater. Do you see this happening or not? If not by your team, maybe by someone else?

Verstuurd vanaf mijn HTC One_M8 met Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] beaups:
I'd rather just pay. Easier that way.
[One (M8) General] andreasyeah:
Why don't you release the source code of firewater. Explain what exactly it does. Maybe another developer can help. :cyclops:

My m8 is not supported. I have the international version (HTC_001) but I would love to know how firewater works anyway
[One (M8) General] beaups:
Yeah I'll get right on that ;)
[One (M8) General] sjeffrey:
You realize that what you say is pretty insulting. I'm sure if it was a matter of writing the "correct" code for the exploit they found then they would have done so already.

All of us that have phones that could not s-off using firewater are pretty bummed but it's time we get over it. Maybe another exploit will be found. Maybe There won't. Getting the source code will not help anyone find a new exploit that works for all m8s.
[One (M8) General] agarp:
It is actually not insulting, I myself is a programmer, with NO experience in finding exploits and stuff. If I can understand how the current exploit works I can look for new exploits if there is any, Im 100% certain there is, because its created by humans, and we all make mistakes when developing. It is a matter of time. Also it helps not to reinvent the wheel again.

I respect the devs and their views, so I dont expect them to release the source.
[One (M8) General] jcase:
In this case, you can take my word that the source would not assist in finding another vulnerability. The only part that would be helpful potentially is how you change the flag to off, which I'm more than willing to share if you can present a plausible theory on dropping write protection.

scotty2 has https://github.com/tmzt/g2root-kmod/blob/master/scotty2/wpthis.c and https://github.com/tmzt/g2root-kmod, but these will be out of date for the most part

unrevoked has https://github.com/unrevoked but it will be out of date as well.

beaups and I have facepalm, which is self explanatory if you look at it

I have many android exploits up at https://github.com/cunninglogic, but none apply to s-off only root
[One (M8) General] thekalby:
Sorry, but one more question. How about the ATT model? I did some searching and I couldn't find anywhere that it said 1.54.401.10 was ever released ota from att. So if I get a replacement from HTC now, will it not have this firmware?
[One (M8) General] andreasyeah:
I had the stock 1.54.401.5 firmware and when I tried firewater I got the whelp of death message. After flashing insertcoin 3.0.5 and elementalx kernel, I got to the first bottle and then I got the whelp of death message again..I guess there is no point to keep trying, right?
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
At this point in time, with those error messages, u are better off flogging a dead horse unfortunately ;)
[One (M8) General] Jyotirdeb:
I don't think so.I got mine to work in the latest international fw.I think it depends from device to device.

(P.S I have an Asian version of M8 but having no stock rom for Indian fw I used Mike's odexed rom and then ran firewater.It worked like a charm ;) )
[One (M8) General] sunnytse1:
what firmware are you on(the Asian ver m8)? I have a m8y (hk ver) on 1.60.708.2.I ran firewater and it gave me the never take ota you are out of luck whatever message and has driven me crazy.
[One (M8) General] Jyotirdeb:
I have the Asian Indian version M8.Previously I had fw 1.56.720.6(latest Indian FW till now) then i flashed arhd.Then I flashed international FW(1.54.401.10) and its recovery from mikes site.Then I followed instructions as per firewater site.I used wifi for connectivity.This is what I did.I would suggest you that you should try to s-off with arhd since I have tried on my friend's M8q too and it worked like a charm.I got message "4 bottles opened you have successfully s-offed" somewhat like that.keep trying and best of luck ;)
[One (M8) General] Mr Hofs:
Guys to make myself clear. Its not trackable why one device gets s-off and the other not. There are reports that a phone with 1.54.401.10 didn't get s-off with firewater,yet mine did get s-off with firewater after the third bottle (also 1.54.401.10) ! There is no theory why it's working for some and not for others. So you can't say that when you get phone A it can be s-offed !

S-off is at bootloader level and deeper, it's not related to rom level.

Edit :

Back on topic now .......
[One (M8) General] boe323:
Just got my phone back ....looks like I have the latest software, but I couldn't s-0ff anyway or I gave in to soon, 2 tiny marks on the metal rim/bezel ...im not taking the plastic cover off the screen yet either, so wont know if theres any marks on it, the sharp lcd is better than my previous so I was wrong about the sharps being crappy, its bright and white, still my last htc though. Waiting impatiently for s-off lol. Oh no, its a different metal body, lighter than my original gunmetal grey, my simcard and memory card holders are well dark ...time to sell me thinks. Ive got a mongrel with a loose screen :(
[One (M8) General] mindmajick:
I'm new to this device and was running at&ts latest and greatest 1.54.xxxx

rooted, s off, etc without any issues.

Is there a possibility that the issues people are having are more likely driver or user errors? Just curious if this is one of those confirmed issues or XDA mythology (like wipe 3x)..

-》Sent from my mind to your screen.
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
Mythology, no one knows as [MENTION=4252827]Mr Hofs[/MENTION] said above, :D

Anyone who suggests otherwise probably does 80 press ups, counts to ten and back 80 times and has to pat thier head 80 times before trying firewater haha :p
[One (M8) General] GraveDigger176:
I prefer my commitment back because I no longer use the phone, i give it to my wife. I'm back on my M7 because i'm tired to wait for s-off. So oRAirwolf please delete me from the pledge list and good luck to the rest of you to get soon s-off :good: :good:
[One (M8) General] jeryx:
I know what you feels like... It's really hard to wait... I'm having a feeling... We don't have to wait long... Stay tuned!
[One (M8) General] Root-Maniac:
There is another example of a user making a pledge and with drawing it, IMO if you pledge for a bounty, you should keep your pledge.
[One (M8) General] GraveDigger176:
for what should i pay or take a bounty, i don't use the phone any longer i'm back on my m7 wich is s-off. the m8 is complete back on stock with relocked bootloader and so on. I pay if I have what nothing more. i don't pay for an exploit for a phone that i not longer use that's it :)

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too late my phone is gone and i'm back on my m7 :good:
[One (M8) General] billydroid:
You went back to an m7 because of s-off ? O_o
[One (M8) General] GraveDigger176:
i went back to my m7 because i'm tired of the waiting whether i and all the other guys with a whelp m8 get s-off or not. so i have no more pleasure to wait that's all :good:

should there be s-off now or in the next couple of days or weeks I've just had bad luck :)
[One (M8) General] billydroid:
But s-off is just an extra bonus. Has nothing to do with flashing custom kernels/roms or enjoying your phone. It's a minor convenience. Certainly not worth going back to a lesser device. Even though the m7 is nice. The m8 is nicer. Just my opinion.
[One (M8) General] GraveDigger176:
that's correct, but in my opinion should every owner of the m8 use the bonus for s-off not only a part of it :good:

for explanation: i withdraw the pledge in due of i don't have the phone any longer :(
[One (M8) General] beaups:
Bounty junk aside, it's sort of strange to go to an older lesser phone for something as miniscule as s off.
[One (M8) General] GraveDigger176:
that's right, I have long thought about whether I should do it or not and I have decided to leave the m8 and use my m7 again :good:

the m7 is more than one good phone :good:
[One (M8) General] billydroid:
That's my point. To each their own, I suppose.
[One (M8) General] Puff1911:
eeh well i need s-off to sim unlock.. so my 2 phones are useless till then :)

I use an 8X anyway.. just have the others to play with..

I see no issue with a guy pulling his pledge if he no longer has the phone though..

fingers crossed for a solution soon :D
[One (M8) General] Stephen:
Moderator Warning​

Thread cleaned. Back on topic now please. If you continue after this point the thread will be closed.

Many thanks,

Ghost
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
THINK WE SHOULD KEEP OUR JUSTIFIED RANTS TO THIS THREAD LADS
[One (M8) General] The Great Dane:
eh, why? I got s-off'ed by beaups and officially I got one of the whelp versions[emoji12]
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
Yes mate me too

[MENTION=2666750]oRAirwolf[/MENTION], mate can you change my pledge, same amount but on the condition that S off for the masses is acheived.

This is hardly fair on everyone and I won't be sending a cent until things are evened up

There is no point to this thread if there are tools that exist but everyone can't use them.
[One (M8) General] v1rk:
[MENTION=2666750]oRAirwolf[/MENTION] Mark me down as a $100 paid already
[One (M8) General] rufh_s:
Paid to?
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
see first page mate
[One (M8) General] enriquez90:
Just donate

I just paid my pledge (15$, instead of 14 as i pledged 10€).

However I really hope that our devices will get s-off and I trust in their work.
[One (M8) General] beaups:
Exploit exists, tool is not quite ready. These things take a LOT of time. I used a total of two testers from this thread, both of which apparently don't think their word is very valuable. That's disappointing.
[One (M8) General] ckpv5:
That's good enough ... take your time ;)
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
And when u release. the tool, the money's yours. It was ur childish treatment of my mate that riled me up man so what did u expect? I won't ever keep promises to people who start on friends of mine because that's a betrayal in itself so we are square.

That aside, I fully appreciate the work that goes into this and that u are a very busy guy so I will keep my word on my bounty when you finally have the time to release it.
[One (M8) General] beaups:
Not sure what childish treatment you are referring to. Anyways, moving along...
[One (M8) General] blackice666:
[MENTION=2666750]oRAirwolf[/MENTION], also remove my pledge from the list.

I already paid my pledge to the developers.

[MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] can confirm:
[One (M8) General] Moscow Desire:
Newsflash!

1) Anybody gives any moderator a hard time for cleaning up some OT posts, and the outcome will not be pretty. This I promise. Care to find out?

2) Any more profanity used, or attempts to bypass the profanity filter will be dealt with.

3) if this so called "bounty" thread continues to get moderators attention for continuous cleaning and other garbage , that will be the end of it.

Keep it clean, keep it "On Topic"

Understand? Any more and infractions will ensue.

Thank You

MD