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[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I made a first version of an Android "Sister" app for the Multi-Watch, to make it more convenient to install Watch Styler theme files.

You can now download theme files on your phone and install them directly from your phone, no more need to copy them

with a usb cable to the Gear Downloads directory.

They are automatically stored on the watch, so they can also be used on the Gear directly on another moment.

screenshots attached.
[Samsung Gear 2] *wii360*:
Where is the download link? ;)

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[Samsung Gear 2] OpenMind_NL:
I'm sure I did try that, but without a different result. Multi-Watch may hang for a minute or so, and then it crashes or it keeps showing the previous theme.

Would be nice because it is essential to fonts in a few themes. I noticed a similar error in WS for Gear 2. It doesn't show some transparencies that are shown on Galaxy Gear (1). All my preview images on gearfaces.com show the themes as they should look. Those are screenshots taken with Android Device Monitor.

Yes, there should only be frame_part.png. That's the one that should be used instead of some accidently left-behind test file like frame_part1.png. WS has no problem with that. ;)

If it can be adjusted, it should also be possible to set it to the correct position when opening a wstheme, right? ... or is this maybe the same centered vertical align that is wrong with all Gear 1 WS-themes on Gear 2? :)

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Are you sure, or just guessing? :D

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I have been searching for a while too, and eventualy found it in the "Lifestyle" area.
[Samsung Gear 2] axial_pro:
Yes - same account. I tried accessing it from both the Gear Manager and the direct link to the Samsung Store.

Don't care about the purchase price...just wish I could find it again. Sucks to go from a personalized, custom experience back to plain, old stock.

Samsung app store is clearly not very developer friendly!
[Samsung Gear 2] lightdelegate:
ok bougt it but ...

ok so I've added my credit card to Samsung apps and bought it but i see now that's there is no app on the phone ...

and i need to copy the files to the watch with pc ?!? :(

that's complicated... :(
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Correct, it is a standalone gear app, no phone part.

You will find it under Clocks on your Gear2.

I am working on a phone part too, so you can use your phone to download themes and install them directly. no more need for copying over usb...
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I have added it in Category "Clocks" now.

Don't know why I didn't do that in the first place....

No idea how long Samsung will take to approve such a change...
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
No, not true, I would if that was the case ofcourse.

Some (most) are good, some aren't. I can't predict which are wrong.

Doesn't seem to be having anything to do with the CENTER vertical allignment, most are fine.

(CENTER should be "middle" when doing canvas drawing, that could be the pb in WS.)

It is often the digital HOUR_PART that is wrong, But I see now that also other parts sometimes are a bit off.

sometimes it looks as if the x,y,width and height from the PART are not used, but from the ITEM instead.

Can it be a font problem? e.g. when the baseline of a font is set wrong, and these html5/javascript apps handle fonts differently then Android does.
[Samsung Gear 2] gavinkelman:
Purchased App

Hi i purchased the app on the Samsung Apps site, but nothing installed. when i try repurchase it i receive the following error :

"You have already purchased this item. (Error: S5007/P/67CFB)

Please assist

Gavin
[Samsung Gear 2] ionutdicu:
Hello!

I have a Samsung Galaxy Gear (GG1) which I updated last week to Tizen.

I cannot see this App in the Samsung Apps (via Gear Manager).

What is happening? When shall it be available???

Thanks!
[Samsung Gear 2] rEVOLVE:
Hi klwinkel,

Do you have plans to provide functionality in a sister app to push things like calendar appointments, weather forecasts, phone device stats (IE phone battery level, wifi connectivity status, icons w/ badges to show missed call #, new MSG #, new VM #, new email #, etc) to the watch so that we can have a dashboard-type watchface that has multiple info at once?

I think Gear users who are looking to leverage the full capabilities of a smartwatch are being underserved in this area. Not all Gear users are only interested in skeumorphic watchfaces of Tag and Rolex - we bought a smartwatch for a reason and that's to have at-a-glance info without having to scroll to different screens and apps on the watch (defeats my main purpose of a smartwatch as if I can't have a default watch screen with all of this and have to scroll to other screens for it, I might as well take out my phone).

I've asked the developers of Canvas and Glance to port to Tizen and they seem disinterested or are having a wait and see attitude to see how much market share the Tizen Gears get before committing time and resources to developing on this platform (away from their current workload of maintaining their apps on Pebble).

Here are examples of what Glance can look like (note that fields are customizable and can be moved around per the user's preferences):

What can be done in Canvas in Pebble:

Obviously, since the Gears have a higher resolution, color screen, there is more potential to have it look better while still maintaining the density of info that would be useful. Since the main OS doesn't seem to currently use the swipe up gesture, maybe make the app work so that we get our Gearface type of pretty watchfaces and swipe up gesture reveals a secondary info panel that can be customized with the info I'm requesting above.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
have you checked on the gear itself in the list of Clocks?

there you should find it.

Otherwise you have to contact Samsung, it is their shop, sorry.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I have already asked a question to Samsung Tech Support for this.....

I think their back-office isn't ready for it yet.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Once the sister app is ready (basically it is already working), and accepted by the samsungs apps store (I havent published it yet), we have a communication channel between the phone and the watch, which can be used for any information ofcourse.

gathering all the information on the phone however, is not that simple. Some info is not so easy to retrieve.

Maybe it would be better to make a new app for it, instead of putting more and more functionality into this single app.

Your swipe up idea sounds good.

And I have to admit, the download numbers are pretty low, it is getting a bit out of hand.

At the moment it does not justify the amount of time I spend on it, but if it keeps on going like this for the next year, it would however.
[Samsung Gear 2] rEVOLVE:
I expect the download numbers may get bolstered by GG1 owners flipping over to Tizen. We will have a chicken vs egg situation, though where Devs won't want to produce for it due to the low numbers and users won't adopt because they see lack of apps.

I am totally fine paying for another app with this functionality, though - as it's above and beyond what Multi-Watch was meant to be. Alas, I'm just one guy asking for it, so not sure if the other owners of Tizen Gears are interested to make it worth your while. The average Gear buyer might just be happy with making his smartwatch look like a dumbwatch, lol.

In regards to accessing the info by the app on the phone - I hope it's all possible, because I ran Glance and Canvas on my Galaxy Note 2 and 3 and those apps could harvest the data from the phone and present it to the watch without root. Working for thousands of satisfied Pebble users for months now.
[Samsung Gear 2] machmandp:
I would add myself to that. I only changed my gg1 to tizen thinking that I would have more apps available including multi watch etc

But as yet nothing more than a few boring apps show
[Samsung Gear 2] djbrotherson:
How do you reset the distance counter?
[Samsung Gear 2] ionutdicu:
+1

definitely!!!
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
disable it, close edit, and eneable it again.

Next version will do it each night at 00:00
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I have just contacted Samsung for the 3rd time about this.

I asked them why my app (and many others) are not visible to Gear1 users with Tizen OS.

First answer: They directed me to the standard developer pages, but there is no info about this on there.

Second answer: They said I had my app only enabled for Gear 2.0, but didn't tell me how to enable it for Gear1, there is no option to enable it.

So now I have asked them were I can enable it for Gear1, to show me a screenshot if possible.

normally the respond within a day.

I have tried publishing a new very basic clock (the example). and there was no way I could select support for Gear1,

So it is not a matter of using features that do not exist on Gear1.
[Samsung Gear 2] machmandp:
Hi

Hope they sort it soon

Its strange as when i first upgraded there were 25 items in the clock area but now there are 27 so someone must know what to do
[Samsung Gear 2] SilentAce07:
I think there are major issues with the Samsung apps store and visibility. When I first got the watch, I searched everywhere for watch styler. No such luck. I read several threads about people who couldn't see it and we all had different numbers of apps in the store yet same setup (same carrier, same region, up to date firmware...).

Even in that thread, Samsung gave an answer to someone that indicated they still refused to acknowledge this issue exists. Kind of sad, really...
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I think we are early users for Tizen.... It's not all mature yet, maybe we shouln't compare it with a google play store.

Tech support answers are also elusive on this matter.

I have a contact at the Tizen Developer Conference in San Francisco now, He will try to get an answer today.
[Samsung Gear 2] SilentAce07:
I get that. I guess my issue with it so far has been that there doesn't seem to be an effective way for users to report issues and have them actually be acknowledged.

With Google play, even in its early stages, they weren't sidestepping bug reports with vanilla tech response emails and blaming users/making things up. Thats the type of responses I've seen so far from them.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Update:

They forwarded my question to Customer support, so still no real answer yet.

Also no answer from the Tizen Developer Conference.
[Samsung Gear 2] speedyranger:
shame to samsung....it's not funny:eek:
[Samsung Gear 2] gadjet:
Hopefully samsung will realise this soon.
[Samsung Gear 2] W.F.Designs:
Skin file question,Gear Faces for gear 2 with multi-watch

Hi all :) dont know if i,am right here , but first! thx to winkel :good: :) for helping me with the stuff for multi-watch :) everything is working now!

as i am a concept artist i wanted to share some skins in the future for the people :angel: and have a qeustion:eek: i created today a skin for the gear 2 (see pic) but how do i convert it to the wstheme file ? :confused: i open a file and opend it with winrar to see how it works i created a skin ..opend the js file with dreamweaver to read it , but on the js file saying on line 1 is an error do i must change it to a dif.. file or convert ...dunno info would be welcome thx peace out!:)
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
looks nice.

take it step by step...

a wstheme file is basically just a zip file.

rename it to .zip and you can look into it, or unzip it.

If you take an example analog .wstheme file and replace the BG_PART.png file with yours, you should get the new face after loading that wstheme.

If you unzipped it, remember to zip it again, and rename the extension back to .wstheme.

you can do the same for the hands: HOUR_PART.png, MIN_PART.png and SEC_PART.png

for more complicated things, you need to edit the json as well.

a complete explanation for wstheme files you can find here:

Understanding wstheme

to view a json file, it is convenient to copy/paste its contents into this website:

jsonformatter
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
New answer from Samsung:

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Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

We’d kindly like to inform you that we checked the application's information on device selection and confirmed that the application doesn't support Gear 1.0 device. Please be noted that the application supports Gear 2.0 only hence the customers using Gear 1.0 cannot search the application in their devices.

In case you would like to support Gear 1.0, unfortunately, we don't provide SDK for Gear 1.0 publicly. In addition, we are sorry, but we don't provide reference for development or guidance to register the application.

Please accept our sincerest apology regarding this matter.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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If I understand this right, 3rd party developers can not make apps for Gear1 with Tizen ?
[Samsung Gear 2] machmandp:
Hi

The way I read that is that Samsung have no idea that the gear 1 also now runs tizen

My reading of that is that is the reply they would give regarding the gear 1 ruining android
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
You might be right, that is why they say there is no SDK for gear 1.0 because there never was for gear1 with Android.

In a follow-up question, I have now pointed them out that I mean Tizen and not Android.

lets wait a few days, to see what they answer this time....

There are a few Tizen apps for Gear1 in the store, so it must be possible...
[Samsung Gear 2] kdeezy:
Hey what's the status on your app mentioned earlier regarding loading theme files from the phone to the watch?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
The next update 2.2 (which is currently waiting for approval), has the "Consumer" part of that functionality build-in.

Lets hope they do not reject it because of that....

I was planning to release the "Provider" part (the android app), as a separate app in the app store, but it wont let me me do that If I don't

include the gear widget into that apk as well. But that would make a duplicate wgt in the app store.

So I can only release tho whole package at once (android apk with gear wgt included).

Releasing a complete new package (apk + wgt) would mean that all the users who already bought the Multi-Watch have to buy it again (if they want to use the android app), because it is a new package.

But on the other side, If it would have been possible to release it as a separate apk, I would haved asked $1 for it too.

Maybe I will make it downloadable somewere else, my own site, or maybe gearfaces want to make it available for download.

or in this forum in the OP.

I am thinking about a solution....

But technically it works fine, I'm using it myself already.
[Samsung Gear 2] kdeezy:
This would be awesome once it's released especially for switching and downloading on the fly! Whichever direction you decide I'll be supporting.
[Samsung Gear 2] kashortiexda:
I regard that answer from Samsung as a "we're going to force consumers to buy a Gear 2 or newer"

Good thing that there is Android Wearables, Sony, LG etc coming to the market.

The consumer will always have the last say and Samsung will learn that you can't just abandon your launch consumers
[Samsung Gear 2] W.F.Designs:
Thx man Preciate it :) i will go work this weekend on some new stuff and figure me out how it works thx for the info :D
[Samsung Gear 2] vprocha:
I hope

... that this application and also a lot of other applications appear in the menu of Samsung Apps for GG1 ;):good:
[Samsung Gear 2] Jollyware:
Why can't I find Multi-Watch in Samsung App Store ?

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Is ok I found it :)

Brilliant work, can't wait for the next version
[Samsung Gear 2] woody315:
Gear 1 or 2

Hello

Have you got the gear 2 or the gear 1 updated to Tizen as I am unable to find the app for the updated GG1 as are a lot of other people ? It appears that there are a lot less apps showing for the updated GG1 than there are for the GG2 despite being told before updating that it was only the hardware such as the heart rate monitor and IR blaster that wouldn't be available, but the software and apps would be the same. I am beginning to wish I hadn't updated but as I understand it there is no going back to Android once you do update.

regards

Paul
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I think Samsung need time to sort things out in their app store.

Once done, I expect these the apps without IR and heartrate functions will become available.

It could well be that they are now testing all the apps for GG1, like they have done already for SG2.

I tried asking it several times, but never got a relevant answer.
[Samsung Gear 2] slaydog:
Hello,

I bought the app from the Samsung market, but it is not showing up in "My apps" on the phone or watch.

When I click on view in Gear Manager, it still doesn't show...

Probably not your apps fault, but any idea?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
It should be in the Clocks list on the gear watch itself.
[Samsung Gear 2] slaydog:
oh, I knew that, lol. I was just testing you! [emoji12]

congratulations on getting it in the app store, BTW!
[Samsung Gear 2] slaydog:
Just rated 5 stars. Thanks again.

BTW, I will definitely pay another buck for the next version. I think you should start another thread when it comes out, since most of this thread is people begging you to give/release the app...
[Samsung Gear 2] leojab:
I juts bought smulti watch.,. How can I configure the font size of date to a specific size. I want more smaller step increments and ability to change font colour. is this feature already available?
[Samsung Gear 2] FdeKlerk:
Why...

Hi.

You know. Where i live, samsung does not. Every app you guys would like to share on app store i can not download.

But thanks the watch looks nice. Just a shame that i can only dream of using it.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Another answer from Samsung:

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Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

Regarding your query, we’d kindly like to inform you that Gear 1.0 SDK is not released to the public, but few authorized sellers are eligible to upload the Gear 1.0 application.Thus, we're sorry but we are not open for any application for the authorized seller.

We strongly apologize for the confusion and any inconvenience this might have caused.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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I think they are continuously referring to the Android SDK for the Gear 1.0
[Samsung Gear 2] gadjet:
Watch styler and loads more now showing in samsung apps in gear manager. ..
[Samsung Gear 2] machmandp:
Yep loads more apps are showing now inc multi-watch
[Samsung Gear 2] sum1one:
so i finally bought the multi-watch app for my gear 2 neo and the watch recognizes the app but does not pick up any themes i download or photos in my library. says it doesn't not find in the download directory which i placed them in......any particular location these files must be in?
[Samsung Gear 2] leojab:
The files must be in the \Downloads folder of gear and in .wstheme format
[Samsung Gear 2] sum1one:
thank you!

and only way to do that is to actually plug the gear to the pc, correct?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Correct for this 2.1 version.

Next 2.2 version will have the option to install theme files from your phone.

If it gets Samsung approval that is....
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Regarding the support for the Gear1 with Tizen, see below question and answer from Samsung.

My question:

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Hello,

In a previous answer, you mention the "Gear 1.0 SDK".

Do you mean the Android SDK for the Gear 1.0 or the Tizen SDK for the Gear 1.0?

Please give me a clear and direct answer!

I am not interested in making android apps for the Gear 1.0 but making Tizen apps for the Gear 1.0.

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Answer from Samsung:

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Dear Customer,

Thank you for contacting us. We appreciate the opportunity to assist you.

Regarding your query, we’d kindly like to inform you that, unfortunately, Gear SDK is actually not opened to the public regardless of its OS.

We sincerely apologize for the inconvenience.

If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.

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[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
Version 2.2 is available in the app store.

new:

+ Saving + Loading watch configurations.

+ Hourly Chime.

+ prepared for communication with Android app
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
This is in the latest version 2.2 that was released today and is in the app store
[Samsung Gear 2] leojab:
Any update on the below query :D
[Samsung Gear 2] BigDanInTX:
Something changed. My blue and red versions of Panerai Luminor no longer load after this update. Not sure what the problem could be.

The digital faces are still off by a bit. Is this something that has to be done in the theme or will you be compensating in your app for the font size differences with G1 and G2?

Also, could you add a visual indicator to the setup screen when a chime is activated? I was exploring the feature and found myself cruising past the "no chime" point a couple times. The visual cue I use for the other settings (date, time, etc) is the up/down/left/right arrows. Perhaps make the chime icon a little smaller and put a ring indicating sound when a chime is set? Just my $0.02.

Thanks. Please keep up the great work.
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
I will try the Panerai.

I'm not aware of any changes, but will check it.

Edit: Checked it, the green one from GF loads fine.

have you made those blue/red versions yourself?

if so, can you upload them here or mail them to me?
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
When loading a wstheme, fontsizes are fixed by the theme.

when using the build-in time and date attributes, you can change the color to a preset number of colors and the size to a preset number of sizes.

Do you need more colors and font-sizes for that?
[Samsung Gear 2] leojab:
It would be great to have more granular incremental size increase for fonts of dates, clock numbers, pedo, etc. Maybe putting in a font number also fine. You can add + or - increments. For color more option is better, where pressing color allows us to choose the color in another window
[Samsung Gear 2] klwinkel:
The Android app tot load wstheme file onto the Multi-Watch app is now for download in the normale Google Play Store.

You can find it here:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.klwinkel.MultiWatchProvider

I hope you understand I have to ask a small fee for it, to compensate for spend labor.
[Samsung Gear 2] likearaptor:
Do you know how I can get your app to appear in the Samsung Gear App Store? When I go to "Samsung Apps" I have a lot of different clock options but I can't find "Multi-Watch". I assume it is also because I haven't gotten the new WatchStyler update either so it will work with the Gear 1. I have a Gear 1 with Tizen and I have been running it for over a week without issues, other than the Samsung App Store isn't showing me this watch option to purchase.
[Samsung Gear 2] w0lverine:
Hi ! I really would like to buy both your apps but I can't find it in "Samsung Apps" ? I tried "multi-watch", "multiwatch" and "multi watch"... I'm in europe and possess a Galaxy gear 2 lite, does that matter ?

Thanks in advance
[Samsung Gear 2] clavit:
Are MultiWatch and the Android app a dollar a piece?

My samsung and play stores show prices in my local currency, and the total for MultiWatch+App is about 3.50 USD.