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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
The links in the OP should work. The links on the additional flashable files (the add ons) arent broken. Yes they're mega, I suppose I could make them copy.com or drobox links but those files are optional I just thought id share them since I had already made them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Hi Surge,

I said don't spend any cycles but others may find that "Quick Glance" doesn't work with S5 SystemUI.

So if you have some time (funny) please make a S4 SystemUI update.zip to get that feature back.

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
revert_S4_SystemUI.zip
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
You are the MAN!!!!!!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ct_tec313:
What is quick glance?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
So from LEAKED nc2 to rooted nc5 goes like this... flash 3 files(downgrade,system,cache) in odin to downgrade to mk2....root with saferoot,,,install safestrap v3.72...put nc5 stock rooted(v2) and supersu on sd card flash them in safestrap to stock side...then flash nc2 to nc5 (2 files ap,cp) with odin and thats it? (sound right?) (wiping as needed) No need to go to nc2

Sorry if this sounds simple? but getting confused between this and giglies and all the reading...this seems much simpler

I have all files downloaded but this one....

Only problem I have is nc2 to nc5 (99mb) zip files md5 doesnt match from anywhere I download. Can anyone post there's for me? Thanks

Thanks for all you do Surge...quick question when do you sleep? lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
You dont have to downgrade to mk2 first. Other than that..looks good.

P.S. I sleep....some lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
I odined the leaked nc2 so i'm not rooted now so i cant install safestrap so that's why I was going back to mk2 or am I unable to go back? sorry
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
just cuz i totally forgot... MK2 to NC5 flashed no bootloader so i am still on MK2 correct? trying to get international roms wifi to work
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] codeshane:
I'm still ten pages behind, so sorry if a solution was already put forward, but I've seen a few posts of people unsure of their bootloader version and I've found this app to be useful as it lists each firmware separately:

Phone Info 'Samsung' org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo

Also, I've been investigating bloatware using App Detective ( com.zmarties.detective ) which shows more info and apps than most similar tools.

Commenting out the "security.mdpp" build.prop didn't work for me (I did verify permissions.) Probably something I debloated already, might have to unfreeze or just restore from a backup and try again. By the time I can catch up on this thread, I'm sure someone will have the GS4 running Android Lexus ... ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] racketier:
Took the plunge last night. Google restored my apps, I had WiFi and 4G. Life was good.

My sole issue occured when I had my phone charging and was doing some heavy app loading, and my phone suddenly became really slow and sluggish. I did a little research and it seems Samsung changed something about how the CPU scales on Kitkat, making it scale down very aggressively. I was able to fix the issue by disabling DVFS using these instructions.

Your mileage may vary. Disable DVFS as your own risk. Seems to have worked great for me though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pscshuler:
I've been running NC2 for a while & forward to moving to NC5.

I have a friend still on MJ7 and am wondering if he would need to downgrade to MK2 before moving to NC5?

(sorry, the OP has changed a few times in the past couple weeks & see no mention of the MJ7 build)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
I believe I've seen some posts of users on MJ7 following the same process successfully as MK2 users.

Note: MK2 is an upgrade to MJ7 actually.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] caniswesley:
I can confirm that (with what was likely a lot of risk) it

IS

possible to have unrooted, taken NC5 OTA, and subsequent to that (through a very haphazard approach that was initially an accident that started as soft-to-midlevel-brick) downgrade to MK2, then re-root and install Safestrap, and then

follow [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] 's instructions

to upgrade to NC5 4.4.2 while preserving root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] pscshuler:
You're absolutely right Lazer, for some reason I was thinking MK2 was older... :rolleyes:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] douger1957:
I can't find the setting for ART. Does this ROM not have that option?

Add me to the list of folk who was able to upgrade straight from MK2 without difficulty. I did not experience any forced closes, but since I knew that the wizard wouldn't finish, I only gave it about five minutes before I pulled its plug. The phone was a bit laggy but since I froze security policy updater, it seems to be running just fine. Battery life is respectable, but I'm only into my second day. If everything follows form, it'll get better.

Thanks for all of your hard work with this phone, surge. It is much appreciated. I know you have lots of irons in the fire yet you were able to get a functioning ROM published in less than a week.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] frebern:
Working without Screen Mirroring

I'm a complete noob, followed the instructions, and working well. Surge is awesome. The only issue I'm having is with Screen Mirroring. All is good with an MHL dongle, but I can't connect wirelessly via the "Allshare Cast" functionality. I have both a wireless dongle for an old TV, and also a newer Samsung TV with miracast built-in and neither will work --- when I click Screen Mirror on the phone nothing shows up in the devices list. Is anyone else having this problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Attempted to go from NC2 to NC5. System is stuck on Samsung S4 splash screen, Suggestions?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Boot into stock recovery and wipe data/cache factory reset
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Thanks. Having difficulty getting into stock recovery. Reverts to splash screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
I think it's power and volume up/down
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Thanks again. I got into recovery and wiped data with factory reset. reboot and stuck on splash screen for about 3 minutes now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
How to boot into recovery:

1. Start with phone off (or about to reboot).

2. Hold volume up button.

3. Hold power button if not rebooting until phone vibrates.

4. Continue to hold volume up until you see Recovery Booting in blue text in the upper left of the screen.

5. ????

6. Profit.

Conversely, holding Volume Down will boot into Download Mode (equivalent to boot loader).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Ya that's it lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DRELUXOID:
Are the speed issues just temporary when you first boot it up? Is it just because of apps and stuff downloading?

I'm on a SOLID rooted MK2 right now and I'm torn whether to bother upgrading to NC5 or not. Give me some motivation fellas... :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
The links in the OP do indeed work. The recent addons you posted a few pages ago that are hosted on Mega won't download on Chrome for Android, at least not unless you manually request the desktop site.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Just to clarify once completed I can replace this with another rom in stock slot in SS and leave other slots empty for space lol ? How about kernel ? Or modules?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
No kernel. But yes
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
So just to clarify. I'm on NC2 Bootloader with Surge's NC5 - prerooted per this thread. SS 3.72

Would this be like prior SafeStrapper's methods. Can flash to stock but kernel MUST be stock, correct, per given ROM?

And I would need to flash the NC2 modules I believe was originally in Surge's .zip when I initially came from HDRLS15 to 4.4 KitKat NC2?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] TheColorRed:
Was this done by flashing the factory/no-wipe Odin tar for MK2 (while you were already on the official NC5)?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
A feature where you wave your hand over your phone and you can see message status, time and a couple of other things.

You don't need to touch the phone.

---------- Post added at 09:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:22 AM ----------

MK2 > MJ7.

He can use the instructions as long as he is rooted.

He will remain on the MJ7 bootloader.

He will need to make a build.prop edit to get PIN on lockscreen to work.

---------- Post added at 09:28 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:25 AM ----------

GoogleWallet works again.

Native tethering enabled.

It is KitKat.

You will have root.

It doesn't change your bootloader.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
[MENTION=650592]lazer9[/MENTION] I've been flashing a few international 4.4.2 roms and so far i have gotten everything to work except wifi. using safestrap like before just not in the slots as they do not work yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ombudsman:
I wonder if someone can make VRUFNC5_Rooted_Stock-v2.zip torrent? I couldn't download it. I have been trying 3 days.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Thanks, but wi-fi is definitely a necessity. I have my eyes on this one -> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2702592
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
hmmm lemme try that one that might be different now that i actually read the post.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Ok, total noob question. How does one "flash" the recovery tar from the OP? I'm in ODIN 3.09. it recognizes the phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
In "AP" input AP_VZW_I545VRUFNC5_I545VZWFNC5_1151670_REV06_user_ low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5

in "CP" input CP_VZW_I545VRUFNC5_I545VZWFNC5_1151670_REV06_user_ low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ombudsman:
I wonder if someone can make VRUFNC5_Rooted_Stock-v2.zip torrent? I couldn't download it. I have been trying for 3 days.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Thanks. I remembered that PDA is now AP and started the process. Forgetful old Noob!

---------- Post added at 10:37 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:32 AM ----------

Back on 4.4 MK2.

Better luck next time!

Thanks to all
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Keep us posted how it works out :cyclops:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Back to MK2. No root. Phone cannot dial nor answer. Cannot boot to recovery, only download mode. KIES does not recognize phone

All help greatly appreciated
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] leandrae400:
Hey apeman81 I was trying to go from nc2 rooted to nc5 follows all instructions perfectly and mine got stuck at the splash screen. . Don't know why. . But I went and flashed the leaked nc2 and that booted right up. . Just no root..I got tired of dealing with it. . Just keep trying to boot into download mode. . And battery pull. And flash the leak and then go back to mk2 root.. and then head to nc2... it's allot but it should work
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Can u do a clean downgrade/odin to mk2 and then use safe root?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Using a different tar than the one in this OP? I am on MK2, but saferoot not recognizing the phone. I have enabled debugging, but no luck so far
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
When using saferoot, have you attempted toggling between MTP and Pic modes to get it to connect/recognize?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Only thing I could think of would be to switch usb slots and recheck drivers.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Yes, thanks for the tip. I had read and tried that. No affect so far. Thanks again. Since I am on MK2, can I use one of the tars in this thread?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2578209
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
I see no reason why you couldn't.

---------- Post added at 03:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:20 PM ----------

Just another thought. Well, a couple. Have you tried what the other user said about plugging into a different USB port?

Have you tried unplugging the phone/computer USB, rebooting both phone and PC, then plugging back in and proceeding with Saferoot another try?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] adriel161:
I've tried getting the OTA update and i keep getting an error. I do have root, but that shouldn't stop me from installing it right? I should just lose root once it is installed i believe. What could be the problem? Thanks for the help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] albertdc:
I am on an MK2 build via safestrap but also still on MJ7 bootloader. Any advice as to whether it is better to go straight to NC5 or should I do something else first to update the bootloader? Would the MK2 recovery steps at the beginning put me on MK2 bootloader? Would that be helpful?

Sorry if that is a stupid question, but want to get everything straightened out in my mind before proceeding.

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Ran factory reset, restored Developer permission, enabled debugging and up came Saferoot. Rooted and running Safestrap. no incoming or outgoing calls yet.

Guess I can try the upgrade to NC5 again
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myfishbear:
i just posted a mirror on my ftp server it will be up at 4:00 est

ftp

Click Here​

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Sounds like progress! Yea, I would head towards NC5 again and make sure you do that step where you flash "superuser v.whatever" right after the initial ROM flash of NC5 steps just to be safe.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myfishbear:
try

1. wiping everything in ss except your ext sdcard

2. installing the v2 rom with ss

3. reboot into dl mode via ss

4. flash gigilie's all in one odin file to ap dl here his post

5. reboot and flash serge's ap and cp

6. wait a while for android to boot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] unident:
Did you ever find anything? Again, it's Browser 4.4-892118.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myfishbear:
did u try reinstalling your Samsung drivers?

try these
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] unident:
Does anyone know if this is a stock kernel? I want to make sure it is before I use TriangleAway. How can I tell?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
I'm pretty certain unless something has changed with SS 3.72 that I'm not aware of that "Stock Kernel" is the only way we are running this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
Did anyone else's phone get laggy after installing the S5 UI zip?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myfishbear:
yeah just do a davilik and cache wipe after that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Does triangle away work on 4.4.2? Would be nice to get rid of the custom padlock on boot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
I tried that and it didn't work. I just flashed the NC5 v2 and started new.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
[MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] hey is it possible to get a flashable nc5 or nc2 bootloader I'm guessing for Odin.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Getting to nc2 bootloader is the only one I know of as of now. It's this file: BL_VZW_I545VRUFNC2_I545VZWFNC2_989434_REV06_user_l ow_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 located in the OP under the [SHOW] button for MK2 to NC2 Update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myfishbear:
gigilie already posted one for nc5 here

DONT Flash if you like root

direct dl
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
That was my next question. Lol. Nc5 kills root. What about nc2 or should I keep the mk2?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] RyaNov1333:
Phone Reboots

Hey Surge,

I'm still having the issue where if I plug my phone into a PC it freezes and reboots every single time. Any ideas? I have not flashed anything on top of the NC5 root ROM in your instructions.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ken11gray:
OTA update and Root

Hi All,

I did the OTA of 4.4 NC5 Verizon load. First I unrooted my phone and was at 4.3 MK2 then accepted the OTA. Well guess what, I missed the root. So I downgraded back to MK2 using Surge proceedure, rooted the phone and then followed the proceedure to get back to 4.4 NC5. It all worked like a charm. Thank you Surge!!!

Ken
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] caniswesley:
See? People think I'm crazy saying I went to OTA NC5, and then re-downgraded and took root and then kept root back up to NC5 ala Surge1223. But you also have done this. I am not insane! :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
No, that doesn't mean your aren't insane.....

It just means there is someone else out there that is just as crazy as you are!!!

Sorry, I had to. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] caniswesley:
The first sign of madness is thinking that you're sane ;).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] arnoldotoj:
samsung app not installed

hi everyone Im on 4.4.2 nc5 rooted come from mk2 roteed nc2 rooted ok everything is working fine....just cuple on bugs like I want to use s traslator, videos,,milk music and a mesagee come out ((unfortunately,s trtaslator has stopped))) and (((you dont have samsung apps installed))....I install the nc5 v2 also the network fails but that I resolve it wt airplane mode...how I CAN INSTALL THE SAMSUNG APPS ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] its.mike:
I followed the directions for upgrading to NC2 from MK2, now my phone is just sitting at the verizon logo and vibrating 3 short times and then 1 time.

Edit >> Tried to upgrade. Didn't work. Tried various means to get things working. Finally said screw it, installed the NC5 full wipe and got a working phone again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sinner822:
Read the OP!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
Not sure I understand this.

Why would upgrading the bootloader affect root? Bootloader can flash recovery and system. Recovery can flash system. All 3 are separate; if you flash an upgraded bootloader without touching recovery or system, why would it make a difference?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Very good point
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ct_tec313:
Downgrading ota nc5 works!!!!!!!!!

i just dupicated taking the ota update and then downgrading using surges method, i guess this find need to go in android development, people thought that they were screwed might have some hope........:good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zombie673:
Come so far since my D1...

I am no stranger to rooting and safestrap but the one thing I don't quite get is, what is the point of the Aroma options? Not that I don't understand the usefulness of the features it provides, but in this instance, when the OP specifically says not to install any modules during that stage, why is it there?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I removed it on the v2 zip I believe. The reason it was initially present is because I took the updater-script and aroma install options from a version of BajaROM I was working on at the time. I didnt know flashing the modules would be detrimental when I initially released this. After I found out I added a warning to the OP while I fixed a few minor issues in the rom and changed the aroma options. I can probably edit the OP and remove that line now.

Also ive been asked if I would release a stock odexed version with all bloat present and nothing removed and the only modification being the inclusion of root. I can try to make this happen, it seems like a reasonable request.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
I might try that version. I was completely ok with my VZW issue MK2 after I simply rooted it (for TiBu Freeze mainly, on a few things like KNOX).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] frebern:
No Screen Mirroring

Flawless upgrade from MK2 to NC5. Only issue I seem to be experiencing is screen mirroring -- the phone can no longer search for devices such as my new Samsung TV. When I turn on screen mirroring the device list is just blank and it doesn't seem to search. Anyone else having this issue?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] fightincowboy:
Yes. Quoted entire thing. I dont post that often. Normally I just lurk.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blindguyinanorgy:
Do you have to go to NC2 first or can you follow the instructions for NC5 strait from MK2?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] douger1957:
I went straight from MK2 to NC5 with no difficulty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blindguyinanorgy:
And just for my sanity, is this post for those of us who have MK2 with knox (aka ota MK2)?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] apeman81:
Thanks to all during my "crisis" yesterday.

Back up and running great on NC2.

Perhaps some time to reflect before taking the plunge toward NC5............ unlikely.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ken11gray:
Rooted NC5

I followed Surge instructions, you do have to have the Upgrade_I545VRUFNC5_fromNC2_with_Root.zip, file to extract and load into ODIN, but I did go from MK2 straight into NC5.

Ken
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] douger1957:
I took the MK2 OTA, then rooted when that method became available. I went straight from MK2 to NC5 earlier this week using surge's method. The only other thing I needed to do was to install busybox from the Play Store so Titanium Backup would see root. I did not see the forced closes mentioned earlier in this thread, but the setup wizard did hang as surge reports in the OP.

Of course, your mileage may vary.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
Per Item #4 in this link for the TiBu User Guide, you don't need to manually install busybox specifically for TiBu. It includes it's own busybox version.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
Odexed Question

I'm running a rooted SCH-I545 4.3 MK2 and would love to stay close to stock but rooted. Do I just follow your OP steps now or just wait a bit of your odexed ver.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Not to answer Surge, but I don't think one matters over the other.

Where de-odexed gives the ability to theme and modify easier and odexed is faster for the very first boot after cleaning the cache.

Size is not significant.

Since using the OP method will require you to go into Safestrap or ODIN to get any further updates, or ODIN go back to MK2; what's the real point of "staying close to stock" anyway?

At this point do whatever because you are waaaayyyy off the ranch; IMHO.

That's the conclusion I came to... YMMV
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JTSDeveloper:
So just to clarify I took the ota official nc5 update , I can downgrade to mk2 and then upgrade to obtain root once again? People have been giving me pretty straight forward yes's but I wanted to be 100% sure it will work. Thanks for any help :thumbup:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
'Close to stock" doesn't have to mean no Odin and no safestrap and such, and the ability to get any future OTAs. To me it means just having the VZW issued apps and configuration to use day to day, with minimal 'typical ROMer' alterations or missing apps. One mans bloat is anothers panacea.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stoicwood:
The answer is yes. I know it is time consuming to look through a large thread like this, but it really has been asked and answered a number of times as well as being pretty clear in the OP.

I'm not sure if linking searches works, but I searched this thread for "downgrade mk2" and came up with several people asking the question in the past day or two as well as several people confirming in the past day or two.

http://xdaforums.com/search.php?searchid=272234903

Someone should design a forum that searches the thread being posted to for the words as you are typing. Or a forum which recognizes consistent questions and displays the most thanked responses to those questions in a side bar. And no, I don't want to. ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
Adding in zips

Thank you.. All I really wanted to know was if it would be simple to upgrade now or wait. Or is it that I just need to add the zip removed-nc5 apps...and how do I ad those toggles and zips in?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
With the zip that has the missing apps, all that stuff is there.

Mainly talking about odex vs. de-odex.

But yes, I do understand.