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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j'vai:
LTE/3G inconsistent, spontaneous roaming, can't answer calls, incorrect time

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http://https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/153548?start=0&tstart=0
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j'vai:
so close, lol -

"b_mair- So sorry about the issues you are experiencing but these steps should force roaming. - To enable international voice and data roaming: - Tap Settings > Mobile Data. - Do the following: - Tap Network Mode > Automatic Select a roaming option: - Tap Home only to disable roaming. - Tap Automatic to enable roaming - Then tap Roaming Guards and check all boxes International and Domestic (GSM IS NOT NEEDED). Let me know if I can further assist you. "

"..This is what I have learned concerning this problem. First, if you are within your 14 days, exchange your phone. If you are not, try to exchange anyway. For me, this was a phone and network issue. When I exhanged the phone (through sprint), the new phone options were very very different. I exchanged a M8 for another M8.

1. Under Mobile Network settings, the first tab is 4G setting for both phones. When you click into that, the old phone had the network provider as sprint, the new phone has network provider as HTC. I am not sure exactly what this means but from what I have read, if it says sprint, the phone will only work on the sprint network, it will not roam. This is why roaming guards are all grayed out and you cannot change the settings.

2. On the new phone, none of the roaming tabs are there, Data roaming sound, Roaming Guards, Roaming, Domestic Voice, Domestic Data, International Voice, International Data, Allow GSM data - ALL GONE. They may be located someplace else, I have not had time to look for them. I think these are all important tools, so I will keep looking for them everyone should know when they are roaming. The option may not be available for me because I have the old Everything Plan so I do not pay for roaming.

3. So far, my phone is working with none of the problems I along with everyone else here have been experiencing. I just want to get this out as soon as possible because spring tried to give me a hassle about exchanging the phone because of the 14 day rule. I will report back if the problems start back up. For now, my advice is to exchange and get a new M8 phone, somehow the setting are different, but they work

Message was edited by: jbman65 Note Day 2: Phone worked perfectly all day long, I will check back in a couple days. I checked my old EVO 4G LTE which never had a problem and the network provider on that phone was sprint so part of my first item above may not make sense or be an issue. Good Luck. .."

htc m8 issues - http://https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/156535?start=15&tstart=0
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j'vai:
found it -

Turning data roaming on or off

Connect to your mobile operator’s partner networks and access data services when you’re out of your mobile operator’s coverage area.

Warning: Using data services while roaming may be costly. Check with your mobile operator for data roaming rates before you use data roaming.

1.With two fingers, swipe down from the status bar to open Quick Settings.

2.If Mobile data is off, tap the Mobile data tile to turn it on.

3.Tap . The Mobile network settings screen opens.

4.Tap Network mode > Automatic.

5.Select or clear Domestic Voice and Domestic Data or International Voice and International Data.

Tap Roaming Guards if you’d like HTC One to alert you when it’s connecting to a roaming network.

http://http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-sprint/howto/393004.html
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j'vai:
'I was having problems with my phone and i went back to the store yesterday, i've only had it about a week and she changed my settings. Under settings she went under Mobile data then went to network mode and changed it to LTE/CDMA and then went to roaming and clicked on automatic and it seemed to work. I'm not sure is she changed anything else but you can try that and see if it helps with the connection problems."

FROM -

HTC One - M8 ROAMING ALMOST EVERYWHERE!

SFBayTechie Regular Visitor

SFBayTechie Apr 18, 2014 2:00 PM

I’m on my second HTC M8. I received the first one on 4/4/14 in the mail, and it was defective. I exchanged it at a store on 4/5/14 for another M8, and have had it for 13 days. More than 90% of the time, I have not been able to use my phone. Can’t call out. Can’t send texts. Data service doesn’t work. People can’t call me. I don’t receive their texts. Phone is pretty much a useless paperweight. The phone is constantly stuck on Roam no matter where I go throughout downtown San Francisco (94111), Daly City (94015), South San Francisco (94080), San Bruno (94066), San Mateo, San Jose. I’ve never had these problems with my Samsung GS3. My wife, also with Sprint, is getting great signal reception on her iPhone 5. How long is this network upgrade going to take??? I’m getting really frustrated with not being able to use my phone anywhere. I shouldn’t have to pay for a service that’s not working, should I??? I tried to be patient for the past two weeks, but this is getting ridiculous!

http://https://community.sprint.com/baw/thread/157366

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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j'vai:
though they banned me from there for fradulent blurry reasons, mainly because they didn't like what i suggested in here - i wish i could suggest to these guys -

~attachment~

to simply toggle *automatic* to see if it works, that's all.. no dialers codes, no rebooting, not of that..

but, it's political madness..
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LilCozyFab:
Why are you wasting people's time? You have 4 pages of talking to yourself.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j'vai:
and yet..

out of all i've posted..

**THAT'S** what you have,

to ADD to the table, mr s4guru mod..

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[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Moscow Desire:
Thread Closed as it seems mostly nothing more than copy and pasting from other sites, and...

Excessive "bumping of thread" to keep it in the top listing.

(not to mention I'm rightly confused about which device???)

But hey, you diagnosed and fixed yer own issue!

Cheers

MD
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Just a warning that there seems to be no way of backing up or saving your messages from Text's AT ALL!

So if you just back the app up on titanium like I have been your fine... Until you want to switch SMS apps.

Then you'll find you can't export messages from Tetra to anything else. They seem to force you to stay with them!

Just a warning.
[Nexus 5 General] DizzC:
SMS backup and restore always worked for backing up my text messages with textra.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
It can't find them for me, neither can I using file explorer. Have you backed up and restored using titanium?

I think that's what the issue is and I've seen a lot of people mention on here that that's what they're doing (as I was), so thought I'd warn them.
[Nexus 5 General] dannejanne:
You're backing up "Messages (SMS & MMS)" in Titanium Backup and not the Textra app itself, right?
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Because Textra keeps all your messages when backed up and restored by titanium, I had been freezing the default meaning app on the last few ROMs I'd tried.

This was fine until I want to swap to something else.

The problem is, all my messages are in Textra, but you can't get them into anything else or back them up.... I'm stuck using it!
[Nexus 5 General] krunal1981:
i juse easy backup app which backups my text , call logs etc to either the internal memory , dropbox or google drive . It does a restore as well. handles everything from setting the default app etc .
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
My point is though, I bet it wouldn't back them up from Textra... Only if you have them in your default SMS.
[Nexus 5 General] krunal1981:
It does backup from the textra app as well. Have been using it since Jan 2014 without any problems. Infact just did a backup and restore last night coz i rooted my phone again.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Nope, just tried it. It backs up Textra with messages in it (same as Titanium), but doesn't back up messages FROM Textra so you can put them in another app.

Thanks anyway though!

I think my messages are stuck with Textra.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Confirmed from the developer, there is no way to backup messages or export messages from Textra, so everyone make sure you backup up your sms separately or you will never be able to leave!
[Nexus 5 General] jayplusone:
This isn't true. I just backed up my SMS from textra using SMS backup and restore from the Play Store.. Textra itself doesn't have the capability built into the app... I have used textra, hello SMS, evolve SMS and others and I am able to restore them all. This seems to be a case of operator error.

Edit: why is this in apps and themes?
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
It is user error because I backup apps with titanium backup and it'll restore all my messages and they even show up in the stock android sms app. Its annoying because I flash a bunch of roms and when i restore it'll show up in the stock messaging app and hangouts before i set textra to my default app. I've been backing up and restoring since november and it shows up on other apps when i restore with titanium backup.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Yes, but you guys clearly don't freeze or remove the default messaging app when using textra. I've read loads of people on here say they do and didn't want them to be in the same position I'm in.

You can backup from the default SMS app, and from every other SMS replacement app on the market, but not from Textra. That's from the developers mouth.
[Nexus 5 General] j_dee:
Well I haven't had any problems using Textra yet... I'm using it since I got my Nexus 5 in November 2013 and saw that Hangouts replaced the default SMS/MMS app.

In fact I'm not SMSing so much anymore and backing up SMS' ain't that important for me, but your post alarmed me a little. So I installed some of the other SMS apps from the Play Store. Every single app displays all the messages in my storage, so on my case it seems like I have a common SMS storage and I'm certain that Helium Backup & Sync offers to backup that storage.

Maybe that's an option for you?

Btw I'm running Stock 4.4.2 rooted with Xposed Framework enabled, just in case it matters ;)

Greetz

// j_dee

Sent using Tapatalk app from my LG Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] asdf916:
Clear data of Textra dum dum
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
All that would do is remove my messages from Textra. I want to get the messages out and into hangouts but it won't let you.
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
I just deleted Textra app data and uninstalled. Installed Chomp and all texts were still there. Uninstalled Chomp and reinstalled Textra.

Hangouts, my only other installed sms app, has been frozen since day one.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
That will be because you didn't freeze or uninstall the stock SMS app.

The lesson is, don't freeze or uninstall your stock SMS app if using Textra, or you'll never be able to move them to another app.
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
Read the second sentence you quoted.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Oh sorry! Mis-read that!

Hmm interesting... So yours were saved on your system even though you were only using Textra. Then where mine have gone is a real mystery add they are in Textra, but nowhere else.

Thanks for info.
[Nexus 5 General] Wakamatsu:
It may be something is funky going on with your phone. I had this issue with another sms app where the text shows up and I have about 5 seconds to read it before it deletes right before my eyes. And it only happened with this one app.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
That's weird!

Well at least I have all of my messages in Textra, so I can read them there. All new ones are going into the new hangouts app (but the old ones don't show there). I'll have to make do.
[Nexus 5 General] HTCore:
Textra has his own database, I believe. I had a weird experience with textra that when I was removing message(s) from textra it remained untouched in Andoird main text message database! It made confusion on me.

Just give it a try, delete a message in textra and open in your stock SMS app and you will see the message is still there but not in Textra!

However, I never tried backing up from Textra but I believe this can be the reason with some issues people have while backing it up.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
I delete anything I don't use. Especially sms apps built into the system. I don't even have hangouts installed or sms, only textra. Now when I flash a rom update it auto populates the sms apps that the rom comes with. I then have to delete them but they have my text messages though, not just textra.
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
That's exactly where the problems come from. Because Textra uses it's own database the messages are stored completely separately and can't be backed up by apps like sms backup, only by backing up Textra with data, but then you're stuck using Textra...
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Do you mean they show new messages coming in? Or all the old ones that are only in Textra?
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
Every time one of the threads about which SMS app you use comes up, I always say I avoid Textra because it uses its own database for storing text rather than the Android one and that it has caused issues for me, and will likely cause more down the line.

As much as it sucks to run into this, I'm glad to see I wasn't wrong in my decision not to use it ever.

Here's another test case you can do no matter your setup to prove there's a problem with Textra's design.

1. Set Textra Default

2. Send an SMS with Textra

3. Set any other SMS app default

4. Send an SMS with other app

Results:

The SMS sent with the other app will not show up in Textra
[Nexus 5 General] Boonyard:
Exactly how I now see it. Using its own database just makes it all the more likely your messages won't match with your phones store of sms at some point. So is it worth using it?

I'm on the new hongouts app now and I have to say it works really well now. I'm keeping Textra installed so I can look back at old messages if I need to... *sigh*
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
Reasons to whys

I think this has been fixed very recently. I talked to them over this same issue about a year ago and they said the app was designed this way, however a month or so back I tried it again and it seems to be fine.

You probably lost your SMS database. It's location is:

So, if you lose that database, then you can't back it up using any app. It's not the fault of Textra that the SMS in its (personal) data folder.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
I'll download it and see if it still happens.

EDIT: no, it's not fixed. And it's even worse now.

Now anything I do in textra doesn't show up in any other sms app, and vice versa.

1. Textra installed

2. Message sent from Textra

Result: Sent message ONLY shows in Textra, and not in Chomp nor Built in Messenger app

1. Textra installed

2. Message sent from Built in Messenger app

Result: Message shows in every app EXCEPT Textra.

Basically if you use Textra, you CANNOT change your app to another without losing whatever did in the app, because it does not store its information to the android SMS database. I'd still recommend avoiding it at all costs.
[Nexus 5 General] KelevrA_8:
Are you using it on a nexus 5? Because I don't have this same problem.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
Yes.

Right now I have

-AOSP messager app

-ChompSMS

No matter which of those I do something in, it reflects in both.

What I did to test was

1. Download Textra and set as default

2. Let it import everything

3. Once everything is imported, I sent a test text from Textra

4. Message shows in Textra, but not in ChompSMS and not in AOSP messager.

5. Switch default to ChompSMS

6. Send message from ChomoSMS

7. Message shows in ChompSMS and AOSP, but not in Textra.
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
It seems more like some bug which only arises with Nexus.

I tested it again on my HTC One (M7) running 4.4.2 and it's working as expected.
[Nexus 5 General] uodii:
Are you using Xposed along with some privacy module? I've never come across this issue in the almost 1 year since having my nexus 5 and I've flashed this thing a metric f*-ton of times and have been able to backup and restore texts every time without issues. I'm constantly switching to different apps like Textra, Evolve, Chomp, Sliding Messaging.....Never had an issue. Something else is probably the culprit, but not dont think it's the app.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
Textra is using its own internal database for incoming and outgoing texts. My results is the expected behavior.

It only resyncs itself to the Android database if you uninstall/reinstall or completely clear data, which would then make it show SMS sent from other apps but at no time would it have written what it sent itself to Android's text database.

They've told me this directly, so if you're getting different behavior, you're either not replicating my steps as I wrote them or something is funky with your setup.

As far as switching between different SMS apps, I have done the same, AOSP, Chomp, Evolve, Sliding, Go, etc ALL use the Android SMS storage. ONLY Textra uses its own database. Textra is the odd man out here.
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
I'm not using Nexus. Trel is using it and facing the problem as he describes.

Being an Android developer, I would suspect it to be an issue with Nexus or a custom ROM. I never faced the issue of Textra not keeping a copy of sent/inbox SMS in the main Android database. You might be right about Xprivacy/Xposed.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
He's not right, because

1. I have not yet reinstalled xposed framework to begin with when I just tested Textra again.

2. It did this on my Galaxy Nexus prior to my Nexus 5

3. It is by design: ( http://i.imgur.com/IqSUNS3.jpg )
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
Did you have the stock SMS app uninstalled on either device?
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
No, at the time of the tests, I had

Galaxy Nexus

- Stock (which I've been calling AOSP)

- Textra

Nexus 5

- Stock (which I've been calling AOSP)

- ChompSMS

- Textra

It's behaving exactly as they said it should in the email. I don't understand where the confusion is.

- There's no process that will make texts sent in other apps show up in Textra once it's installed other than wiping app data, or reinstalling

- The background process that pushes texts sent in Textra to the default Android SMS store is a low priority background task

Which means the fact that neither shows up in the other app when I tested meshes perfectly with how the Textra team themselves told me this should be working. Other app's sent showing up in Textra won't happen, and Textra's showing up in other app, would only happen with a low priority background task which likely didn't run between when I sent and checked the other app(s).
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
That's weird. Maybe it's a device-specific bug. It's a good idea to send them an email including details like your device model, OS version.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
You're confusing me now.

If they say it's supposed to do XYZ, and it's doing XYZ, why do you keep saying it's a bug.

It works like I say it does, they confirmed it's supposed to work like that, and you keep saying it's a bug.

I'm seriously lost here.

EDIT: again, here's the email from them confirming that it's supposed to behave like I'm saying
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
I'd appreciate if you could tell me the date of that email, because Textra doesn't mess with my SMS database when I switch between stock app and Texta.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
Um....

You're confirming the same behavior. It ****DOESN'T**** mess with the SMS database.

It should, but it doesn't because it maintains its own.

It looks like you're agreeing with me. So I'm really lost here.

Ok, let me ask you this. It looks like you make an SMS backup application.

Provided you use Textra, and have everything set up as you like it.

Using your app, you restore a text conversation that was long since deleted. How do you make that show up in Textra in this scenario? When I used Textra, I could never do this with any SMS backup application because again, Textra maintains a separate database from every other SMS application.
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
"Textra doesn't mess with my SMS database when I switch between stock app and Texta" = it doesn't mess things up like you're facing.

I've got no problem switching between apps or even backing up my SMS (because my SMS database always has all the messages, sent from Textra and from stock).
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
Ok, let me give you a scenario to test.

1. Back up your SMS with any backup app of your choice.

2. Delete a conversation from Textra.

3. Restore the SMS with your chosen backup app.

(do not uninstall or clear data on Textra)

What I am saying will happen is the restored conversation will NOT show up in Textra, but WILL show up in any other SMS app.
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
That is likely to cause problem, Textra won't show the restored conversation.

Please note that this is not a bug and not a big problem. One can clear the app data to "refresh" the messages shown in the Textra.

Also note that this isn't the problem posted by the OP.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
It's not a bug. It's a design flaw.

It locks you into Textra.

Let's assume I have custom notifications set for 10 contacts.

To restore a single text message, I have to re-do all of those.

That's a flawed design if I ever saw one.

OP's issue is a symptom of this same design flaw, which is that Textra doesn't write sent messages to the Android store right away either. It's done with a low priority background task. So if it hasn't run yet, you simply have no way to backup sent messages and will only get half the conversation.
[Nexus 5 General] sufian88:
How does it "locks you into Textra"? It actually locks you into other SMS apps, because you'd leave Textra in case of it not loading SMS from the main SMS DB.

There could be an option to "backup settings" and it would fix this problem. Comparing it with other apps on low-end devices, Textra is a blessing. On my previous phone HTC Explorer (Pico), Textra was quick and nice when compared to lousy stock SMS app.

Well, the background task will run at some point. No need to rush and it's not a bug really. Why else do you think people have given so poor rating to this thread?

And btw, the "design flaw" has been fixed. I don't face it on my HTC One (I don't see a reason why someone would need to make backup every 2 seconds) but maybe low-end devices face some delay, however, no other app has been as reliable (Chomp? It sends 1 SMS too many times, and sometimes never sends) and as fast as Textra. As the person from Textra said, you can't have everything when you go for speed.
[Nexus 5 General] Trel:
It locks you into Textra because every other SMS app uses the Android SMS Database, Textra is the only outlier.

But as there isn't, the flaw still exists.

The design flaw still exists because no matter what, there's a scenario where texts would be out of sync between the Android and Textra databases. The example scenario of a restoring a conversation will not show up in Textra without losing all your settings still exists. As long as this is the case, it's flawed.

However, the fix is remarkably simple, but it's never been done.

All they need to do is include an option to manually resync (write missing messages from Textra->Android, and read missing messages from Android->Textra), and the problem is solved. As long as there's no way to do this however without losing every bit of customization made in Textra, it's completely a flawed application.

And the fact that you haven't run into the issue isn't relevant, because I'll give you a good scenario where it would be a problem.

I'm factory resetting my phone so I

1. Send a text message from Textra letting people know I'll be unreachable

2. Backup my SMS's with my chosen application

3. Factory reset phone

4. Reinstall everything, and restore SMS

The result: I'll be missing the texts I sent in step #1 because the background process would not yet have had a chance to run.

There's a very realistic scenario in which it would present itself.