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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
Or note 4 developers edition
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alsgarage:
I mind paying full price. I may buy a used m8
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Make sure you buy one that is unlockable. Last time I checked, sunshine didn't support the latest software version yet, so I'd do a bit of research.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alsgarage:
Thanks, good to know
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cdmills:
As far as the nexus 6, I was looking to get one but as of now Verizon doesn't carry them and I don't think they work on their network. At least this is what version told me. If I'm wrong, please let me know.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
to my knowledge n6 is not available for verizon as of now
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Nexus 6 is not sold by Verizon right now but the phone works on their network. You just put your Sim in it and it works.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
thats because most phones nowadays are sim unlocked and will function this way but there is no guarantee things such as lte would function properly or not and if you decide to purchase it and something doesnt work you will get no support from verizon
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Verizon uses different bands than other carriers so many unlocked phones won't work on their network. The Nexus 6 however, supports the Verizon bands and people have reported all functions working on Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
most phones will work on multiple bands.. especially newer devices and especially the Nexus which isnt necessarily tied to a specific carrier.

Fact is, phones these days are sim unlocked. As I said, any phone can take a sim card but depending on other factors such as bands will depend on what functions properly and what doesnt. If Nexus 6 has no problems then great lol, i was just stating facts.

Verizon will NOT support the Nexus 6 since it is not a Verizon device so if something doesnt work he will not get support from Big Red.

And you are mistaking what i wrote to begin with.. I said most phones are SIM unlocked, not unlocked completely.. You can take a sim from any carrier and put it in the nexus 6 or other lte devices and it will work unless other factors like frequency bands factors in..

For example, i can put a tmo sim in my vzw s5 and i might be able to make calls but data might not work etc. This is bcuz they are SIM unlocked..

I would imagine you are correct about the Nexuz 6 seeing as how its not carrier branded youd assume it is made to work on multiple carriers but he needs to know that if for whatever reason something does not work he will get no support from Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
I completely agree. It also depends on where you purchase the phone from. If a phone is bought through Verizon, it isn't SIM unlocked by default. Likewise if you bug a phone directly from the manufacturer it may not fully function on networks like Verizon, especially because many unlocked versions are only for GSM where Verizon is a CDMA network. Again, I'm not disagreeing with you at all, I'm just clarifying.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
Verizon/US Cellular (run on almost identical networks) all 4g lte capable devices come sim unlocked. Its the 3g/cdma only devices that would need to be unlocked if capable. This is fact.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JasonJoel:
AT&T sim locked their version of the nexus 6 (I have one)... So it isn't a universal fact on ALL LTE phones...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
Thats why I said Verizon/US Cellular.. ATT is a gsm carrier so its slightly different.. I for a fact know USC all 4g lte phones are unlocked. This is from the policy in the online resource (I work for USC.) I would imagine Verizon is very similar as well as others have reported the S5 and other devices are sim unlocked out of the box.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JasonJoel:
Ah, gotcha! Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BladeRunner:
All newer VZW LTE devices are SIM unlocked
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
now if ony all carriers would come device unlocked and BL unlocked wed be set!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
If all phones come bootloader unlocked I can die happy.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JasonJoel:
I think you will see less phones come bootloader unlocked, not more.

Of course I hope I'm wrong on that.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
I disagree. We've seen a lot of manufacturers providing dev tools to unlock devices. Granted some carriers restrict this such as Verizon but it's still a step in the right direction.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BladeRunner:
If you're on Verizon (or AT&T for the most part) and not willing to pay full price for a dev edition or a Nexus then unlocked BL's will become harder to achieve. Lollipop is not making it easier.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
If you're on vrzn it's cheaper to buy outright if you are running 10gb plan or higher, no activation fee and 25.00 back every month.. In two years that's 630.00 bucks back you DONT get when going under contract.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
Same with AT&T.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] C288:
If someone were to get a developer version of the phone, couldn't they figure out the signature needed to create a program to unlock it. Sounds a little to easy, but if you think about it might work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Developer editions are weird and in short it doesn't work like that. Also, developer editions don't get OTA's so they wouldn't have any unlock "things" for newer software versions. Sorry if that explanation doesn't make sense, I'm struggling with how to describe it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Makes sense to me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
So easy it doesnt work lol. if it did, we wouldve had an unlocked BL since dev ed was out.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Right. The about is unique to every Dev edition. It has an extra 4? bytes that is unique to every Dev edition that is used in the unlock process.

Sent from my Eclipsed Verizon Samsung Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radpp16:
Is it worth it to start a new campaign for lollipop? Im not liking the whole safestrap, busybox, appopss, etc....process to get root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] btonetbone:
Personally, I don't think so. It works and once you have root, does it matter that it was a mild pain in the ass? It's not like we have to re-do it on a regular basis. What I would like to see, though, is someone to figure out how to get Safestrap working on Lollipop without having to swap kernels through Odin.

- Ivan

Enjoy the show!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Yeah good luck with that!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
appopss? that has nothing to do with rooting 5.0 lol.

and this whole busybox and safestrap thing is how weve managed the entire time on the s5?

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agreed but gl on the ss part seeing as how hashcode said he wasnt going to work on it anymore immediately after first release for us and hasnt been around since to my knowledge
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radpp16:
I am on 4.4.4 nk7 with only tr.apk and few odin flashes, anything like that exist for lollilop?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Ragnar:
Please stay on topuc only all other discussion or conversation belongs elsewhere.

Edfunkycold

Have a great day!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpcdeux:
Hahaha some of these "pledges" you can easily buy an Intl fully unlocked one
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Seriously? Did you miss the post right before yours? You realize you are in the Verizon forum right? You know that these "pledges" were for root, which was achieved nearly a year ago, when international devices were not available - let alone for the prices they go for now?

As a rule of thumb; Don't "easily" buy an international carrier-unlocked phone, without verifying the bands are compatible with your carrier.

I don't know if I have any authority for such a request, but if so I would like to request this thread be closed. I think its clearly run its course, achieved its goal, and now has overall brought in too much troll behavior. With the new wave of phones around the corner, this will only become dated anyhow. If someone would like to open a separate thread for LP, or for unlocking, by all means. I very much appreciate the help, the mods, and to those who contributed positively to the thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
As the OP of the thread, you have every right to ask that the thread be closed. You can click the report triangle in the lower left corner of the troll post above your last post or your first post in the thread and ask that the thread be closed. Done.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Ragnar:
Thread has been closed at OP's request.

Edfunkycold ( now known as [MENTION=4169204]Ragnar[/MENTION] )

Have a great day!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mistertac:
Hmmmm $2000 [MENTION=2528880]C0mbe[/MENTION] I don't know.... Do I hear $3000...... $3500...

Just bustin ya man, I do the same thing, try to donate wherever I can when I can. I don't doubt you... I'm thinking this bounty will definitely pay off.

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Smokncars:
That's the best news I've heard all day. I was thinking the exploit would have to be on a pervious version of the firmware then updated. At any rate put me down for $50.

I may soon lose my phone in the mail to whom it goes I don't care just getting root is all that matters lol.MOD EDIT:PLEASE DO NOT DISCUSS INSURANCE FRAUD ON THIS SITE
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Nope it was just a general statement. Not directed at anyone in particular. We just have a bunch of people posting numbers and no way to tell whether they intend to donate when the time comes. We've got everything from brand new single digit post count members to long time users with thousands of posts and thanks who we can have more faith in. Kudos to everyone who intends to give their posted amount but I don't see this achieving more than 75% of the final amount on good faith.

Just my thoughts.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] joderme:
Agreed - if a method arises it shouldn't be released until 75% of funds that were pledged are given.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] greatnesstx:
I'm down for 120$

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Verizon version
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] das7982:
$100 VZW

$25 for VZW bounty thread creator (something cool and different)

Also this thread has drawn the attention of droid life and a few other blog news outlets. Keep it going guys

Follow Me [MENTION=260686]Bash[/MENTION]_array
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
I like the idea of (after third-party confirmation of method) protecting release until a percentage is collected, but it looks to be against the rules. Most of the larger pledges are from respected members, so I imagine the 75% would include these larger numbers - and is a nice pledge total regardless.

I say we cross that bridge when we come to it, however - and keep the doubt & speculation down in the meantime (while following the post rules). I don't want to miss any pledges wrapped up in debate, however productive it is. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KennyG123:
Gentlemen, let's not discuss mysteriously missing devices and how to claim on insurance on this site please.

Thank you for your cooperation

Friendly Neighborhood Senior Moderator
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] GrabMyWrist:
I'm down for the cause. I'll throw in $25.00!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] das7982:
I would just like to point out that Jcase is monitoring this thread. For those newbs out there Jcase is a code scientist/engineer, and a mobile security expert. If he's looking at this thread chances are he's nosing around with exploits only he has access too. We do need to push this bounty to the 10,000 mark as most usable exploits start at this price. Companies pay for these all the time.

Pledge pledge pledge. I pledged $100 VZW earlier.

Follow Me [MENTION=260686]Bash[/MENTION]_array
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] amaury48:
Count me in for $50. Just got my S5 yesterday, great phone, but could definitely use some development love......
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Acturbo:
Put me down for $50
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] djmouse:
I'm in for $75 for ATT.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] afmracer6:
I'm in for $25 vzw
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mflagg:
I am in for $100 for S5 VZW

carry-on
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] stask1:
10$ for AT&T
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Just put my MDK baseband S4 on swappa, ordered the S5 so count me in for $75 for VERIZON.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] spuniun:
$100 VZW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] addiction41999:
Verizon Root Pledge

I joined today just so I can pledge $20 for VZW.

Great job everyone, you guys are all awesome!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] telktrot:
I'm in for $25 on vzw.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] panyc:
Im in

$25 for ATT
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chronicaust:
I'm in for $50 on the ATT variant!

Let's do this guys! = )
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ZenMomentum:
pledge

$100 for ATT
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
[MENTION=4343326]Demiurge7[/MENTION] shall we add the Verizon Galaxy S4 folks receiving the 4.4.2 update today too?

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/25/verizon-galaxy-s4-receiving-kit-kat-update/

Whatever exploit they might get could be a similar one to ours.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] seanu13:
in for $25 on AT&T
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
As much as YES would be a good answer to help drive the bounty up...I think it has to be a NO. While a lot of it is probably the same i think the devices need to remain separate for good reason.

If it does end up the same then the creator can go snag up the S4 bounty if there becomes one.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ZenMomentum:
Escrow for Crowdfunding

Google 'Escrow for Crowdfunding'.

The only challange may be in getting a 3rd party service to accept a phone rooting project.

While Congress stated rooting an owned device is legal. There is still the potential for a civil lawsuit for breech of contract. The carriers could possibly pursue civil action against an escrow partner for facilitating the crowds breech of their user agreements or some such nonsense potentially making it difficult to fund via escrow.

I will personally guarantee that I will pay my contribution but I understand that those are only words.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpk17:
I'm in for $25 for Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
I agree. I certainly wouldn't mind adding it - but if it ends up being the same/similar, the developer can grab a bounty started over on the S4 end. I think adding another variable to the thread may complicate it a bit more than having separate bounties, especially with AT&T already in the mix. We all do have a common interest, and I sincerely hope the S4 update opens up some opportunities for exploitation. Again, always open to suggestion, and will make adjustments to the thread if new information is obtained, or if there is a consensus of opinion on any matter.

EDIT: Some quick stats on this impressive bounty so far:

62 hours elapsed:

82 total pledges (63VZW 20AT&T) [one was for both]

$91.64 average pledge

23 pledges of $100 or more

I would be curious to know how this total compares to previous bounties (ie: highest bounty).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] x3em:
I am one of those single digit posts :) and I pledged $250 for root on VZ. I completely understand that you would have more faith in someone with thousands of posts and thanks. And maybe it does look a little suspicious to show up out of nowhere and pledge a fairly substantial amount. In my case I upgraded from a device that was rooted for years. I had been waiting for the S5 for a while, and it's everything I thought it would be. my intent is to use it hard for at least 2-3 years. I am a developer/engineer myself and not having root/full access is awkward at best. root was already available for my previous device when I got it, I never got the opportunity to compensate anyone for the efforts in that case. For those reasons I am willing to pay out $250 to whoever accomplishes this. I haven't been posting on this forum before because I haven't had a reason to. I suspect there are more people in my exact situation and I just wanted to give you some background and hopefully easy some of the concern around new people not paying up. I assure you I will at least :)

and again, many thanks to everyone involved in this effort!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] razzrmaxx:
I got $25 on it for the Verizon root, I wish I could put more in but I have 3 kids and a mad Wife!, that's my word.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sling:
I will donate 20.00 , I will also let my G900T brothers know whats going down on this side of town.

Hopefully they chip in as well
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sim37:
I pledge $20 (att)

I pledge $20.00 (att)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mistertac:
Very impressive guys. Hope this helps I really do...

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] smknutson:
I have since exchanged my S5 for an M8, but I fully intend to honor my $35 pledge if root is found.

They can take our money, but they can't take our FREEDOM!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jm0327:
$25 for ATT . Put me in couch... i got hoop dreams..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Guadalupeohara:
I will donate $22 for that..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] waleed300:
Every bit helps brother! Thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RyanS107:
$10 - Verizon
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SlimJ87D:
$20 for the ATT variant
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Shadowzerosix:
So I don't do this often at all, in fact this may be my first post ever.

Please read this carefully, as it might be a direction to go.

This is HONEST AND TRUE.

I bought a Galaxy S 3 on craigslist with 4.3 TW. After trying to get root I was successful. But as you all may know because of Samsung cracking down lock the BL, I found the means to use safestrap to get something different than stock TW. I downloaded the Hyperdrive ROM RLS15 and tried to flash in the recovery. Once I hit "reboot" I had a device that was hard bricked. After many years of rooting (since Htc Evo). Came to find out that I wasn't thorough to surely know what what I downloaded and flashed. I somehow ended up in the Galaxy S 4 forums and tried to flash the S4 version of Hyperdrive leading me to a very sad S3 - Wouldn't turn on - NOTHING. I tried the method to load the .bat file on a 16GB and do what was suggested everywhere......pray and got only a buzz from the device. I then did some additional research and learned about the company in Texas that will essentially revive the device using various methods (including JTAG).

Hesitant at first I decided to give it a shot, because hey, my phone was already hard bricked I can't go much further.

To comment these guys and to say they are incredible at what they do isn't enough and here is why....

Josh from mobiletechvideos revived my S3 from a hard brick from 4.3 trying to unlock! The interesting part you guys must understand is my phone was on 4.3 with a locked bootloader. HE WAS ABLE TO REVIVE TO AN UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER. After a discussion on the phone asking me what I had done to do such a nasty hard brick, I explained to him exactly what I did, and he said that it wasn't possible, "once the phone is on 4.3, the phone is like that forever". He said all kinds of hardware terminology that was over my head, and followed again with the understanding that it was not possible that it would of worked. That this must of been a weird glitch and I got lucky. Well... Later that evening he was able to replicate on a different Galaxy S3, we text back and forth with some of the details (I can provide later as proof if necessary).

With all that being said, and will explain and answer any questions to anyone here - I know that this is an S3, but the same principle still applies. IT WAS A LOCKED BOOTLOADER, AND WAS ABLE TO GET IT ROOTED. He returned the device with CM11 after 2 days.

I hope that helps. Please please ask me questions, I don't know what is legal or against forum policy, but you can PM me with questions, I will download the XDA app, and figure out how to be promptly available to answer. I hope the Admins here in XDA would make this message an exception or something to allow this important message to show to all.

Serious. No Joke, Not fooling anyone. This is legit. Officially the first S3 to go back to stock bootloader from 4.3.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
This is not allowed. Funds are not to be released until the method has been distributed and proven. That is for the protection of the users.

Slithering from the nether regions of a twisted mind and tarnished soul
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
You can also create a sdcard that will get it running again. Use T-Flash in Odin. Obviously this would need to be done before bricking. Basically you need the BL package and pit file, load them up in odin, check T-Flash, insert the sdcard into your phone, reboot into download mode, click start. Few seconds later you have a bootable sdcard. If you ever hard brick like that, simply put in the sdcard, hold the key combo for download mode and flash.

Also, flashing 'unlocked' bootloaders via jtag is a no go. That was tested on the Note 3, dumping the partitions from an unlocked one and flashing them to a locked one yielded a non-booting device.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Shadowzerosix:
Maybe I explained this wrong. I was on a locked bootloader, I bricked, he was able to replicate, and go back.

The only thing I can think of is, if this can be done, is there an older version bootloader on the S5, or if an unlocked one can be written at this point.

To explain the screenshots. This is the conversation with Josh via text throughout the day. He mentioned, "aboot" does this help at all?

Again, I understand this is an S3 but the same rules apply still. Does anyone know how to get here? Sounds like it would something to look into?

It would be the exact same as the S4.

Maybe another question to through out. Can we hard brick the S5 and access "aboot"?

Maybe I need an education, but I would like a response with a through explanation before I step aside. Honestly, with the same locked bootloader, Odin, we HAVE GOT to have something here. I just know it!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] droidstyle:
What you have mentioned above has been covered many times over the course of the last 3 samsung devices. In short no, none what you mentioned will work. Best thing you can do is get a S5 in the hands of Hash Code and hopefully he can get SafeStrap working.