yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sethnelson1:
WIP

For those wanting to upgrade to another ported 4.4.2 ROM, do you still need to odin those files after installation of the ROM? Has anyone tried flashing anything else beyond the rooted stock 4.4.2 point?

Notes: This Rom works but I'm experiencing performance issues like jittering and low benchmark scores. So those wanting to experience a more fluid and speedy ROM, this is not for you. Stay on 4.3 for now.

Surge, thanks for making this possible. Can't wait for some improvements. Your upgrade/downgrade thread is the best and least confusing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JTSDeveloper:
Seeking answers would sure be a hell of a lot easier. Thank you for clarifying. :D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Slow? I haven't noticed. Benchmark scores are as useful as tits on a bull lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
I don't think so, I tried but jkrus's patch didn't work. I had no wifi so I downgraded back to nc2 and running Phoenix Rom. The Rom is bad ass!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
If I'm on Surge's NC5 with an NC2 bootloader and safestrapped with 3.72, can I flash Phoenix to my Stock side and if so, where is this ROM located and are any modules required during the flash?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] douger1957:
That's generally been my experience. For some reason, TiBu wasn't recognizing root without me manually installing busybox even though RootChecker confirmed that I did indeed have root.

I thought I'd toss my experience out there in case someone else ran into the issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
hey [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION]

is it possiabl eot just flash this ...

BL_VZW_I545VRUFNC2_I545VZWFNC2_989434_REV06_user_l ow_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5

to get the nc2 bootloader? from mk2? already running nc5 .... ?

thanx
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Yes you can do this or I can upload the nc5 BL tar.

To all:

The busybox issue is fixed with the nc5 v2 zip. I can understand people wanting a stock odexed, non-debloated rom so as I said im working on it please be patient. Also talking about other roms is fine as this isnt a dedicated rom thread but for issues installing other roms please move that discussion to the respective rom authors thread (I cant provide support for other roms, plus confusion arises as a result) by all means you can use my nc5 rom as a stepping stone in whatever may be your final rom destination, remember my goal wasnt to provide the best nc5 rom possible, just a path that allows you to keep root while on nc5.

Cheers,

Surge
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
ya can you post the nc5 one too. are both "downgradeable"?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jessberto:
Icons From Downloaded Apps

[MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] Thank for you doing this, Im so happy the bloatware is gone!!! so so happy about that. I have a question is there a fix for the icons not showing up when you download any app from the Playstore, they only show up until the phone gets restarted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
I haven't see this issue on my phone.

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You can upgrade now or wait....

Adding in the zips is as easy as rebooting into Safestrap an installing the zip from the menu.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
Surge when making total stock with root could you include tether or a tether zip. Thanks

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] eklipz3:
i hope this hasn't been asked yet because i try and read as much of this post as i can but is there a fix for the wifi or am i the only one with this issue NC5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
Must be the only one.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
If you want 100%, you shouldn't be fooling around with rooting and modifying your phone - that way it's all VZW's responsibility. Others have done what you asked about, but that doesn't guarantee anything.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
ok so running bypasslkm i get this

what am i doing wrong or how do i fix this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
Thx for your time and effort.

I just don't get the debloating for one major reason - /system is its own partition, so removing anything doesn't free up any useful space. That is, unless someone has the knowledge to put apps in /system, there's no gain. And, if they can do that, they can delete the bloat themselves. Others can simply disable or freeze the bloat (paying for TiBackup or equivalent should be encouraged, IMHO).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
ok out of curiosity.....

if i wanted to redo this all following the

How to Downgrade back to 4.2 MK2

instructions.

where do i input those md5's downgrade system and cache

ap?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
You're trying to run bypasslkm on the NC2 and/or NC5 kernel which it doesnt work on. Theres no reason to run bypasslkm on NC5.

AP

There currently isnt an issue with wifi on NC5 that im aware of.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] kaikmoney:
Is there something that we could possibly be doing wrong to have wifi stop working? I went from mk2 to nc5 following your steps and every time i try to wipe cache and dalvik-cache or install any other zips, everything will work fine, but wifi will not come back on. im going to try and re-download everything and see what happens.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] nshawn43:
Cannot Send MMS while WIFI connected

Ive been having this issue from the nc2 and nc5 rooted roms.. when i was on stock nc5 it worked fine but for some reason on this while im connected to wifi i cant send an mms.. i can receive them perfectly fine but i cannot send until i disconnect from wifi and then resend the picture..anyone else encounter this or know of a fix. Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] eklipz3:
Thanks for the response surge i reflashed dirty method and all is well. profit
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skytheripper:
I am also having the wifi issue. Before update, the wifi was good. After the update, I cannot start wifi, the switch just refuses to turn to 'on'.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zmedhaug:
try To remove csc.apk in system》private
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rab5705:
Thanks I will give it a go. I am going to have to move back up to NC5. I went back to MK2, just have not gotten back around to flashing back up. Been busy! :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] adamklo:
Question, [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION]:

Looking at the updated OP, I get the impression that if I'm already on NC5 (OTA) then I can simply flash the Downgrade_I545VRUEMK2_I545VZWEMK2_1937946_REV06_us er_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.zip in AP and that will put me back on MK2 and I would not have to flash anything else. Your steps include flashing downgrade.tar.md5, system.tar.md5 and cache.tar.md5 separately in AP, but I didn't see links to those anywhere. Does your updated Downgrade multi_cert.zip take care of all that, or do those files need to be extracted from somewhere? If so, where?

I was excited to see that people were successful in downgrading OTA NC5 to regain root, but I just want to make sure I'm doing everything correct so I don't have to post again that I messed up.

Thanks in advance and thanks for your work!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jdfrye:
On ME7 with root, do I need to go to MK2 first, to go to NC5? Or can I just do the steps in post #1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
2 problems

My jump from mk2 to NC5 went great but 2 questions.

Out of the 70+ pages of this what ended up being the best way to fix the lock screen thing. I've read many different options.

2nd I keep getting a push to samsung error message. What is it and how do I get it to go away.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jessberto:
[MENTION=4960871]stealh pope[/MENTION] Thank you. The lockscreen issue was fixed by adding that pound symbol oh and also [MENTION=5365230]DrRichardQuack[/MENTION]
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] htisystems:
please help so while doing this I did the wipe and accidentally hit reboot after wiping and now stuck on samsung screen...i was on nc2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
If you still have Safestrap installed, you will need to pull your battery and re boot into Safestrap and re flash the rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] htisystems:
It won't boot in safe strap
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Follow surge's instructions for downgrading through Odin to mk2. Then use safe root to root and install Safestrap 3.71. Then re do the upgrade procedure.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
I would go to MK2 first since ME7 is several revisions down.

MK2 then root with Saferoot, install Safestrap, then do the upgrade.

I would do MK2 with the NoWipe image.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Unzipping Downgrade_I545VRUEMK2_I545VZWEMK2_1937946_REV06_us er_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.zip will solve your confusion ;)

Were you on NC2 prior to this? Id try to flash the NC5 hlos/modem together and see if that helps

Im not sure what "a push to Samsung error message" is, can you take a screen shot or elaborate? Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Slowbalt:
Is anybody having an issue sending picture messages after the update? I'm getting destination invalid as the error message. Tried both stock msg app and hangouts
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] htisystems:
Thanks that what i was thinking ...trying now
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
Surge... You said you might work on a full stock everything included by VZW odex version. If you do, I'm imagining it would be the same as using the current Ver2 stock NC5 zip and then adding the removed-items zip file. The difference would be odex vs the present deodex, is that about right? Assuming that, I'm trying to figure out the age old question of is it better to have odex or deodex load. I read that the main thing you can't do with odex is themes, which I don't do.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] arihant726:
If im upgrading to from mk2 to nc5 can I do a /data backup and a /system backup and restore once im on nc5 or can i not wipe my data just the dalvic and cache
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] albertdc:
Did the update from MK2 to NC5. Went great. Thanks Surge!

Today I received a notification about using security policies. I swiped it away but I bet it will come back. Had anyone had that pop up? Is it safe to take and keep root, etc? If not, what should I freeze in TiBU to keep it from coming back?

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
More or less, but there's other files I (and most rom devs) remove because they interfere with a successful flash (mostly knox stuff) Deodex is better for mods and themes, odex is faster but flashing mods becomes a pain (and in some cases impossible) so thats why most roms are deodexed. Some people want complete stock though. I should note that enabling tether isnt effected by odex vs deodex. Aside from that other differences would be the removal of the 4 way reboot, busybox and some toggles, and init.d which I manually added in the NC5 stock root rom.

So heres the issue with that, do you know why TiBU had issues with restoring and backing up with newer systems? Its because of some selinux policies that exist on newer 4.3 and 4.4.2 systems. Restorecon might need to be used to restore data without issues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ffchampmt:
Somehow my settings app got nuked. It doesn't appear in my launcher and the shortcut in the status bar doesn't work. Any ideas why or how to fix?

Sent from Tapatalk on my Verizon NC5 Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
So the 'full stock odex' would have KNOX removed? Great! What about removing the OTA update checker? I read that SamsungUpdater.apk does that (true?), but that apk is also used for the Translator app to dynamically load languages.

The OTA update checker is probably a don't care anyway. Since the S4 is about a year old, I doubt VZW will ever release the next Lemon Something version to this phone, so a well running 4.4.2 is probably all us non-crack-ROMers will ever use.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
In 4.3 is called security policy update not sure on 4.4

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jdfrye:
You wouldn't happen to have a link to the NoWipe MK2 image you speak of?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tadiv:
I keep getting hung on the "SAMSUNG CUSTOM" (bootloader?) screen... I'm sure that I have followed the instructions... Any suggestions?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JTSDeveloper:
I'm working on downgrading from nc5 to mk2 to upgrade again with root. So once I get back to mk2 all I have to to is safe root and then install safe strap and then what? How do I get to nc5 root? I'm a little confused with the repupgrade process
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tadiv:
I believe that the instructions in the OP of this thread are supposed to do it, but I have not had success... :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Follow the instructions for either nc2 or just straight to nc5 at that point
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Neospicer:
Get back on stock

First. Thank you. But now I have a couple questions.

1. What did we do exactly to get the phone to 4.4.2? What parts of the system did we upgrade and such? i heard we didn't update the boot loader or something?

2. Is it possible to install a custom rom now? or am I still blocked by knox? I was rooted on 4.3 with no custom recovery but now with this update to 4.4.2 I got custom recovery right?

3. If I wanted to go to stock 4.4.2 what would I do?

Again. Thanks a bunch
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tadiv:
In this thread's OP?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JTSDeveloper:
can we install custom roms after upgrading to rooted nc5?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tadiv:
[/QUOTE]

I think so - as long as they are for SafeStrap...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JTSDeveloper:
I think so - as long as they are safestrap compatible...

did the downgrade to mk2 successfully by directions in op no problems. Upgrading now. Thank you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Scottchy014:
Folks! Better start upgrading and getting it done right. The devs are starting to update their ROMs. Here's just one example from Hyperdrive: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52565463
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skytheripper:
I was on NC2. But every time I tried to wipe system via ss 3.71, I got the error message "unable to mount /system". But my wifi issue just happened after updating to kitkat. I will try to flash a custom rom first to see if any luck. And also, I got random reboot after booting into or switch to airplane mode. Re-flash did not help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Ummmmm ss3.71 will not work with nc2 or nc5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] albertdc:
Thanks. I must have scrolled past it 5 times... finally put "security" in TiBU and found it. It's now frozen. [emoji106]
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] samsungmodr:
s4 music playback error

I just downgraded to mk2 and rooted with saferoot, everything works great except I can't play any of my music, tried the Google play app, stock Samsung app, amazon mp3, none of them works... my music files aren't corrupted, unless my sd card is corrupted, cause I downloaded a song from amazon mp3 and it won't play either.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
will this work with mj7? Anyone?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scootier:
Yes a few people have reported success starting with MJ7
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
r u gonna take the plunge scoot?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
I did with no problems at all.

And still have my mj7 bootloader intact.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
so just follow the instuctions on op?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
Yes. Exactly as instructed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] skytheripper:
How stupid I am! Thanks for saving me. It simply works.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] swrght13:
I successfully downgraded to MK2 from NC5. Where are the NC2 hlos I'm supposed to flash?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] albertdc:
S Memo that was installed as part of the v2 package immediately force closes. Someone reported that pages ago, but no-one else confirmed or posted a solution. Anyone have a way to make it work?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
Should be in here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2487298
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zmedhaug:
On the NC 2 rom I cannot uninstall facebook or messenger. My phone restarts. The apk is not in system app. Private app or in data app. How the hell do I delete facebook?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I can confirm this error exists, im working on finding a fix and the cause.

I didnt include facebook in any roms?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zmedhaug:
I installed it through titanium backup

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I installed it from titanium backup

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As a matter of fact I cannot uninstall anything. My phone force closes. any ideas how this would happen and a fix?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] moonglows:
How do you get back to MK2? (which thread did you find that in?) I am stuck on the custom screen and the phone won't go into bootstrap at all...

EDIT: I found the other thread also from Surge and tried the various instructions there, failing miserably, and realized that he made it simple, putting all the information and the updated file in the OP here! :) I used the directions/files to go back to MK2 from OP (sorry, bricked phones are knee-jerk scary to root newbies) and am trying it all again. whew. I'm glad I don't have heart issues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zombie673:
Good stuff, [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION]. One other thing. Camera seems to be broken for me right now. I have always had moto droids until my s4 so the Odin process is pretty new to me. If I re-flash, do I need to do the Odin steps again or can I just use safe strap to flash and then boot?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sinner822:
You Sir are a better man than I. With patience of a saint. I would not be able to tame this monster as you have. Kudos to you. You are a true gentleman. I hope all appreciate your dedication and realize the time you have given.!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] conrad2123:
I followed the steps to go from mk2 to nc5. Everything is working without issue but I can't get a gps lock at all. Any ideas? Thanks.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Frustratez:
Same here.. It worked fine until last night.. I was reallllly in need of a GPS also.. Only thing different is I flashed the s5 interface and menu thing.. So idk..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Stealthpope:
I have flashed the additional zip for the other toggles, but I don't see any new ones after. I am specifically looking for the toggle for Wifi Hospot, (yes I know that I can enable it with the native app), I would love to just toggle it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] conrad2123:
I flashed the same thing but didn't check my gps before doing so. Any help would be appreciated as I need gps for a trip coming up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scootier:
Once Hyperdrive RLS16 comes out... definitely.

Just waiting as I am still enjoying RLS15.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Frustratez:
think mines because im on NC2.. somehow now my builds nc5 and baseband is nc2... going to go up to nc5 and see what happens. I also installed modules from day one just because he said to download it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] newkydawg:
I had the same GPS issue and not sure how it got fixed but when I installed and ran GPS Status and Toolbox, my GPS started working. On a related note, my compass was way off until I installed and ran Smart Compass. Now it works.

Here are the Google Play links:

GPS - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.eclipsim.gpsstatus2

Compass - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=kr.sira.compass
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
I can confirm in the GPS issue on NC5. With the help of GPS status app, I can get 10 out of 20 satellite locks. It sucked while playing ingress at first.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] edjanx:
Shut Down and Lock Screen Personal Message

Thanks to Surge, I've successfully upgraded per OP and profited! I also enabled the screen lock successfully.

I did notice that under 'Lock screen widgets' / 'Clock or personal message', the 'Personal message' itself doesn't appear on the locked screen. I usually enter my gmail address here, as as a potential recovery method if the phone was lost. Also, the Favorite apps or Camera' widget is greyed out.

Also have one question. I noticed that I can't shut down the phone. It always will reboot, I'm guessing to the AT&T Safe Strap. I also see that Safe Strap doesn't show up, so I assume that's a permanent fixture? Thanks for this answer, as I'm sure it's something obvious to most on these forums. :)

Janx
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MotoManic:
Lock Screen Fix not quite right

I went form MK2 to NC5 directly. I did happen to use the back button, which caused me to have to reinstall MK2 before going up to NC5, but I don't think that should have affected anything. I ended up with the lock screen issues, and modified the build.prop to resolve - which appeared to work. BUT, upon rebooting, it's not keeping my lock screen preferences. I set my PIN code, it works fine until I reboot, then I find I need to set my PIN code all over again. It's just like groundhog day.

Am I the only one? Any suggestions? I'm not seeing any FC's, wifi and GPS appear to be fine. I'm not so sure I have working 4g, but live someplace where I rarely see it anyway, so it's probably not that. I did have some sluggishness, but cleared caches and it seems fine now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] diaftia:
I am having the WIFI issue with any NC ROM I use. Not sure what it is. I flashed all of the files except the bootloader. Everything worked fine with the exception of WIFI. The toggle is stuck in the off position and won't let me turn it on. Its as if its magnetized into the off position.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] albertdc:
Surge - thanks in advance for looking into the S Memo issue! [emoji106]
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Well I wrote this for you ;)

open terminal and copy and paste this in

su
mount -o remount,rw /system
find . -name "bypasslkm" -exec cp {} /data/local/tmp \;
find /data/local/tmp -name "bypasslkm" -type f -exec chmod 755 {} \;
./data/local/tmp/bypasslkm
insmod /system/lib/modules/dhd.ko
exit
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Are you referring to the FC's at boot that go away after a couple seconds and then the systems normal? If so, thats probably on me, I could care less how the rom worked when I was trying to do this I just wanted it to boot with root and be functional.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
I think my problem is getting the file, it is already unzipped, not sure where to get zipped file so I can extract.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] leandrae400:
SUCCESS

well i have it up and running root and all only thing is the process phone error comes up at boot but it doesnt hurt anything. running smooth waiting for the battery to level out...good thing for this MOPHIE charger case i have....:good:

got to thank Surge1223 for the files and the help
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] djdio68:
Running good!

Android phone crashed on about 3 boot ups and thats it. No problems now. Thanks for all your work. :D

Been on this ROM for 8 hours and battery life seems to be the same as 4.3 JB. But i will know better after a few days of use.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Yea, lol, they're driving me nuts. I must have misunderstood earlier about factory/data reset fixing because I did that like 3 times in normal recovery and finally gave up. It's just the .phone.process or whatever at each bootup, I get like two to three force closes then all is fine. :good:

Thanks for this Upgrade w/ root method though, all else seems to be flying and I got about all my stuff setup :cowboy:

If there's ever a simple fix for that phone processes close at boot though, please drop me a note, lolz