yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Here is the observation I had that raised my suspicions. So this guy supposedly developed an app that rooted and unlocked the bootloader for numerous devices. And he chose to make the first disclosure of said app in a thread for a device on which, by his own admission, he had not yet tested the app. Does that make sense to anyone?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PHiiLiZz:
Yes that exactly what I thought. That why I been stay away of this line and see what happen but someone jump in and insulting him...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
No use and leaking all the red flags, just teaches how to be sneakier the next time.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
I knew I should've left milk&cookies! ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cr6:
All I can say is WoW!

Merry Christmas everyone! [emoji319] [emoji320] [emoji319]

S5 tap'n
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pizza_pablo:
\_0_/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] npjohnson:
Could not have said it better myself jcase. :p Thank you for your continues hard work in the android community.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] King p1n:
This is still going on?

He's loving off the attention.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] patt2k:
I feel sorry for anyone who thought this guy is real lol.

Let's hope an actual dev makes it done :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PaulPizz:
You are 100% correct I sit back and read some of these posts and there people on here acting children. It's crazy. I would love to see your work successful but let's get real here, even if you didn't put anything out or whatever these people claim, is it really that big of a deal? it's a freaking cell phone. it's sad how childish people can be. I would understand if people have already paid for this, but nobody has spent a single penny and they act like they have and what you are doing is owed to them. After all this immature negativity if I was you I'd consider not even releasing this to these childish people.

On another note, your child is in my prayers, I have 3 children and have dealt with quite a bit with my oldest son. It's not an easy thing to see your child in a hospital bed. It takes every piece of man in you to keep yourself together. So I wish you the best!

happy holidays!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
While there is no denial that people have acted negatively towards this man's claims, when you claim to have solved something that many many people want and then appear to have lied, people will be upset and reasonably so. As for considering not releasing it, there is a bounty of a few thousand dollars up for grabs which I doubt anyone would pass up. People are upset because they have placed hope on something and then been mislead and lied to. As has been said by others in this thread, we are best off moving on from this and continuing this thread purely as a bounty thread which is what it was started as. If people can't move on from this incident the mods will probably close down the thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ssphaneuf:
i knew it was all not true, i hope one day it will happen
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Some of us are upset because he falsely stated we had signed guarantees and/or backed him when we had not even spoken to him. I think this is a perfectly good reason to be upset, and have distrust.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
I wonder how many of the high dollar donations were his plants to stir higher antees?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alado221:
I dont think it matters anymore. Lets just move on from this new topic one guy started (unless he replies with actual development). Retorical questions aside i dont think this is the right place for so many of these later replies and i think mods agree with this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
It doesn't matter in one sense but it's always wise to look back at your mistakes and glean from them rather than move on and be a fool again over and over and over.

Next time let's make sure everyone that is posting a bounty is a legitimate person I think I saw one at $4000, really?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
This type of thing is the exact reason bounty threads are frowned upon, I highly suggest dropping this conversation before the decision to outright ban bounties is dropped.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
Prob good to ban them if no accountability on either side.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
The bounty system is flawed garbage

Sunshine stuff isn't the best answer, but at least it creates a dev revenue
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
"Sunshine stuff" works just fine.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rcanderson232:
Sunshine is a great solution imo. If I had that option for my Note 4 for root access I would be first in line.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
^^^+1 to this^^^
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Walter.White:
I wholeheartedly agree with you. The only con I have for sunshine is that If for some unfortunate reason I have to get my device replaced under warranty and I get a new/refurbished one, I've to repurchase the sunshine on that device.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
The license is tied to the device ID if I'm not mistaken, they give you root access per device so the payoff is worth it. New device = new license. No one makes you root your device, it's your choice to do so.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lamarwallace:
Hey could you guys look at this? It say the at&t note edge is rootable the site is MODERATOR EDIT - THIS SITE CONTAINS SOFTWARE THAT ILLEGALLY CHANGES YOUR ESN

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Hey could you guys look at this? It say the at&t note edge is rootable the site is MODERATOR EDIT - THIS SITE CONTAINS SOFTWARE THAT ILLEGALLY CHANGES YOUR ESN

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I've downloaded the software, but need one of you developers to check it out too see if it is safe

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If this is not for root, please disregard my question
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
Looks like sketchy buzzword garbage
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] patt2k:
sunshine root will work for s5/note4 etc.. ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
No.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cr6:
Hope your kid is feeling better Anthony!

Perhaps a New Year's eve "upload" is in order?

[emoji6]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rabid_Iguana:
Didn't really think about it in that way. My thoughts were based on getting pledges to pay, not to keep the information from those who did not pledge at all. this makes me think that we would be back to square one and that the pledges would have to be on the honor system. Like I said earlier, I can only speak for myself. I guess unless another member figures out a workable solution the task of collection would fall back to the Dev who comes through with the root exploit. Thanks for the input Sharpie! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] yokopol:
I am in for $20

I don't own any Samsung at the moment nor plan to have one but I benefit from community every day and want to support it as much as I can.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
It will have to rely on the honor system. I am willing to pay my part for sure! Anything I can do to help, I will.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
True. I think the Bounties have been done many times in the past, and this method is the best option (as you said, within the confines of XDA rules). From what I have read and understand, there are a percentage of pledgers who do not make good on their commitment... but generally, folks here on XDA are people of their word - so the small percentage of those who cop-out, still results in a nice payout. Most of the pledgers so far are those with respectable and credible activity here, so we have no reason to believe they would risk their profiles credibility to dodge a few bucks. I also believe that everyone clearly wants the ability to root our device(s), very badly - and given how tightly locked-down we are, I think this may be one of the higher-percentage payouts of any bounty (if and when reached). I assume this based on the amount of time that has passed, and the general consensus that this is going to take a bonafide code-scientist (or internal-spy) to crack. We would, and should have great respect for anyone who pulls it off, probably more so than any device in the past. If this kind of effort doesnt warrant honesty and commitment, then I am not sure what will.

I can definitely look into, if anything, marking off the pledge list as paid after-the-fact (by working with the receiver of the bounty). So we can at least "shame" those who take the low-road.

And I will of course look at all reasonable options, but it seems this is a tried and tested design - with little in terms of reasonable/legal alternatives.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Very well noted. You're doing a great job so far. Keep it up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Triskite:
in for $50 (vzw)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
So looks like it's official, we have surpassed even the Verizon Galaxy S4 bootloader bounty. Great job guys! Keep it going and let's show them how dedicated we are to our devices! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
But is not free, what bounties effectively do is crowdfund work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rabid_Iguana:
:good:^^AGREED^^:good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sugerdroid:
Count me in for $35 for root on the AT&T variant
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tjbchs:
I pledge $100, for vzw
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] C0mbe:
I assume you're directing this partially at me because of the size of my pledge. I can assure you if root is found I will pay. You have nothing in this world if you don't have your word. I was the person who donated the cash for Adam Outlers S4 so he could help root/exploit.

I firmly believe that if I can't contribute technical expertise then I should be contributing financially to help support those who work for nothing to provide us with root, etc.

In fact, I will up my ante. I'll provide $1000 for a VZW root, $1000 for an ATT root, or $2,000 in total if it works for both.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] blue79:
Put me down for an additional $25.. I know everyone says that information should be free and I have always aggreed, but a part of me wonders if the root method could be released in a closed source format.

I feel like we are all paying to have the next exploit found and patch in samsung next release..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
S5 device donation, potential exploit

So, I have been approached by a developer who has a potential root exploit (both Verizon or AT&T). He is looking to get a device (cheap or donated) to further progress/test. I have permission to post this request on his behalf.

This is a legitimate developer and lead. If anyone has a possible option in this regard,

please PM me

and I will have them get in contact with you to work out details.

In the meantime, I will be looking to see what I can do myself in regards to providing a testing device. Regardless of the outcome, this is great news - and certainly shows our pledges have not gone unnoticed. Nice work, and thank you for the kudos (Sharpie603,Rabid_Iguana,waleed300) - doing my best. Certainly very honored and excited to be apart of this in any way I can.

EDIT: Device found, headed to Dev
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xgerryx:
We all appreciate the time and effort, even if this doesn't pan out. It's quite exciting and great to see progress being made in any form.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Simer03:
I will start with $20 and will increase by $5 every week it doesn't happen! For the at&t version

sent from my Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Surge1223:
Did they wish to remain anonymous? Also id ask if them to check the kernel source to see if their exploit is applicable/patched first..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Perhaps the person wishes to remain anon so as to not collect the Bounty, but still wishes to help us?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Update

The exploit will definitely be looked into (he is following this thread). For now, they wish to remain anonymous as to not create the inevitable influx of increased expectation (understandably... we are chomping at the bit pretty heavy right now).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Just a general reminder, sending devices to anyone is a potential scam. Seeing how this has already taken place, I hope you realize nothing may come of it, and you may be out the device and any financial investment you had in it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
lmao we all hope him and his family are doing well but i think a release from this guy is a joke and NOT gonna happen.. lets not start gettin everyone hopin for a new years release when he clearly has nothing to release
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cr6:
Hey, I figured it was worth a try. (just in case) [emoji1]

Actually I'm quite content with my rooted stock S5....still runs great 6 months later!

Happy New Year everyone!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lmarranzino:
NOOB here to VZ and the S5 ..LOL

Just got this S5 a couple days back and it has the new ANK2. Looking for directions the least confusing on how to Root this bad-boy. Yes I have read and read and the more I do the more confused I get. I also checked the all in one tool thread yet still not sure on that.

Any HELP Please...:confused:

Happy New Year:good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pizza_pablo:
Download Towelroot. Press the "Male It Rain" button. Done.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Use NK2 files instead of NI2 files here. Should work just fine.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lmarranzino:
So just Odin the tar file for root correct
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
its not that easy.. towelroot only works on older rom versions..

he has to odin back to older firmware, root then odin nk2 firmware back
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pizza_pablo:
Roger.

My badd dogg.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lmarranzino:
All is good got it. Setting up on 12. Is Nk2 that much better ?

Thanks again for the push in the right direction.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] crazyraiga:
i got this CRAZY idea.

i dont know how KNOX works. and i am not a deveLoper.

i just read everywhere that knox uses efuse or something and once tripped it wiLL never go back.

i reaLLy do not know how efuse works. but i read that efuse is a reprogramabLe thing that once reprogrammed it wiLL stay forever.

so my crazy idea is if there is a way we can write that knox efuse with 00x00 may be it stay with 00x00 forever since you can no Longer change it to something. and then we can root or do everything we can.

again a crazy idea.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
what was the idea? we already have root without tripping knox as well as safestrap.. knox doesnt have anything to do with unlocking the BL.. if we were able to unlock the BL it would trip knox flag and then maybe what you posted would be an idea to reset it back to 0x0...

The BL isnt locked bcuz ppl dont want to trip knox lol its locked bcuz no one has found a working exploit for our device
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
By definition, fuse bits are 0 until you blow them, in which case those bits are flipped to 1. So there's no "blowing a fuse to 0", its already 0.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kevinco1:
Please end the mental anguish and constant reminders and close this thread. It was always an impossible dream.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Why ruin it for everyone else? Just stop coming here if you don't like what you're reading.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kevinco1:
I'm not purposely flaming, but there's other threads with much discussion on KNOX, bootloaders, unlocking and other methods. i just don't want to see this guy keep stringing people along with more excuses to get donations.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alado221:
this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=57768233

Just create your own thread. I looks like you and many others really want to close this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
LOL! You literally made no sense with that post.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
that is what this thread is for the vzw s5.. we have to have one main thread and clearly its no longer about that guy since hes already been provin to not having anything.

the guys question about knox had nothing to do with that guy and was someone just trying to post about what he felt might work for knox
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] C288:
This may be a stupid question, but what really happens when a device is unlocked. I really don't understand the process, and I couldn't find anything on a Google search.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
well unlocking means being able to use the phone on all carriers

unlocking the bootloader, however, means being able to use custom roms with twrp and such :). its unlike safestrap in that you can change kernel.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] C288:
Well I knew that, what I am trying to ask is how is unlocking a bootloader done. Like the process, or like what files get changed. Sorry if I don't make since.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jagrave:
I have been curious about this too.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
It's no different than root access on a kernel.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] C288:
I don't really know how that works either. If you could point into the right direction. I want to know how developers are able to do this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
From my basic understanding, you are modifying system files, usually what the system checks to make sure the thing you flash is signed by the manufacturer. There isn't a set thing you have to change I think because each unlock is an exploit using different files and modifications.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] C288:
Ok. So then what is the problem to unlock the s5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Read what he said again.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] C288:
So it is because it has to be signed. How do you even get past that then.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rakuu:
Exactly the issue. Bootloader is signed with a private key, we can only get thtlat through stealing it or brute forcing which would take AGES.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
The issue (biggest issue) in unlocking a bootloader is that it's entirely proprietary, meaning no one but the OEM has source code and it needs to be reverse engineered. This presents a number of problems, not least of which involves bricking an ungodly number of devices to get it right. It's much easier to attain root due to the open source nature of Android, but the bootloader is not licensed under GPL or Apache and source isn't shared.

And if you attempt to brute force it, I'll see you in a few millennia ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
yea.. to unlock the BL one would need a working exploit or the private keys which well never obtain. if we had the spurce custom kernels could be created but they would still have to be signed for our phone to accept it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Chopstix9:
I'm just worried we're gonna lose root when 5.0.x drops ...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pizza_pablo:
I bought this VZW S4, used, in June 2014, on swappa. It was on HD 15, when I got it and is on 19, now.

I have not received any OTA updates.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Yes it is, very different
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
The open source nature doesnt actually make anything easier as far as gaining root goes, most OEMs are far from the AOSP source in code (if being open source made it easier, the OEMs are closed source).

Bootlaoders are open and closed, many straight use uboot or the lk from CAF, which are open source, however some write their own or heavily modified versions of lk.

and its coffee time (out of bed and on xda is under 2 minutes, tahts sad)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Good to know, thanks! I only figured root was easier to attain with source because you're not shooting entirely in the dark, but I've never worked on root or bootloaders, so my information is just what I read up on.

And no worries, I was on before I even bothered getting out of bed lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I can walk you through it, and show you what we use. At this point I prefer to work with the binary and reverse it, cant trust that the available soruce matches what the OEM actually releases.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
What I meant was that it requires an exploit to unlock. I should have been more specific.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] newmanx4:
No need to worry. That will definitely happen.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
and how do you know this? Other devices are rooted including 5.0 on the g900f.. Im sure we can pre root a rom, flash it in SS and then odin the firmware as we have been.. dont see why it wouldnt work the same way weve been doing it all this time...

Dont know how many times ppl have 0 hope but no idea what theyre talking about.

Extreme Syndicate | The PURGE
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] newmanx4:
Will the phone be rooted after taking the update? Not until we have a way to root it and take the steps needed to make that happen. That's all I meant. So yes, if taken OTA, 5.0 will cause us to lose root, even if only temporarily. It was simply sarcasm.

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Which is also why I don't take updates until a root method has been achieved or a flashable rooted update is available. 5.0 should be dropping hopefully by the end of the month and then this place will be flooded with "I took the update and lost root. What do I do?" threads.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
For what it's worth, I spoke with a Verizon Rep the other day about 5.0.x and they said they have no set date, or known date of release. I don't think we will see it in the next month or two if that's the case. Keeping pretty tight lipped about the update releases.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
It's not worth much, I'm afraid. Verizon reps tend to not know anything.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
It's frustrating! I just want to update already and have Root be retained. lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
well duh lol. and those posts will be flooded with others calling them idiots for taking the ota before having a rooted rom to flash..

point is, these posts will happen regardless of anything.

Extreme Syndicate | The PURGE

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lmao took the words out of my mouth..

If they arent told "hey, the s5 is getting an update next week!" Then they will simply say they dont know and no etabcuz that is how they are trained.. theyll most likely know the same day it starts rolling out (most likely by ppl calling in about how it screwed up thheir phone)

Extreme Syndicate | The PURGE
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Krayvon:
Got root thanks to awesome XDA members! Love this community!

Still dont understand why Samsung and Verizon gotta be such Dicks and make it so hard to hack..

I can't even imagine unlock bootloader happening anytime in the future,.. All we can do is hope that someone finds an exploit.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
Which phone and carrier krayvon?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
LoL
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
lmao s6 will be out before you know it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Shadowzerosix:
I'd be very curious who comes around (if anyone) to get an unlocked bootloader and/or root. Geohot moved on didnt he? Working for Google now? I've moved away and on from Samsung because of this fiasco. Verizon and Knox have this device (and highly likely the S6) locked down.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
The reason I am considering an LG G4 or HTC One M9 when they come out..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] donbudafuko:
Same here..I'm thinking of the lg g4...already seen some romers and looks promising
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alsgarage:
Selling my note 3 what would you guys recommend as far as phones already out on Verizon with the best development?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Of you don't mind paying full price, the nexus 6 is good.