yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RockyCJC:
[MENTION=5609343]KaptinBoxxi[/MENTION] my advice would be not to reply at all to let the firestorm smoulder away.

Everyone else: I think delirium has set in waiting for root because I am finding in multiple threads that people are attacking every little statement. Yes....people say and do some not so intelligent things, but a simple FYI will do. After that, just let it go. I guarantee that the devs who are working on root do not share their progress because they know that this is the kind of madness that will ultimately plague us. Keep it civil ladies and gents.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thecrow067:
Cant be rooted verizon/att?

I have been closely following all news and forums regarding the rooting of the Samsung Galaxy S5 for Verizon's model. I am convinced that this model cannot be rooted. If it could be it would have by now.. I mean whats the bounty up to now over $11,000.00. just my opinion tho.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Not true, my S4 took 3+ weeks until it got root, and that was last year and the securities have since increased exponentially.

"Never give up, never surrender!"-Cmdr. Peter Quincy Taggart
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Phoenix_Boston:
This. Also, throw me down for $20 for VZW.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kidruk:
Give it time bro. It has been about a month.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thecrow067:
Im not sure but I think that this model has been out for a lot longer. As like you have said, the "securities have since increased exponentially". I think that by now, it would have been rooted.... like I said before just my opinion. That is a lot of cash. If someone is purposely waiting for some crazy amount and already rooted it, shame on them.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sureshot007:
The only thing that is absolute is that nothing is absolute.

It might take a bad kernel update, or someone leaking something...but it will be rooted. It might not be right away, but it will happen. Nothing is unhackable. Maybe someone at the SETI@home project can loan us some free cycles! Or maybe it would be easier to hack Verizon's network for the keys? One way or another, it will happen.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] destiple:
With the Developer Edition being released (and unlockable), might this be the opening needed exploit the ATT/VZN S5?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] spuniun:
No, as many of the more experienced devs have already indicated, the dev edition will offer no help is rooting/unlocking the retail edition. It will only help you gain root/unlocked bootloader by going and buying the dev edition.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] destiple:
Crap.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JEZZEJAMEZ:
AT&T

I would donate 100

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using Xparent BlueTapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
....it was first released on April 11th, that's 25 days. As I said before, the S4 barely, if so, was rooted at this point.

Trust me, no one is waiting for the bounty to go up more. It has barely increased in the last 8 or so days. Devs are just working hard finding anything that could expose an exploit and taking every precaution and option there is.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chuckboy1129:
What happened to the thread on rooting and unlocking bl progress
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
It keeps getting sidetracked with stupid questions/comments. I feel another cleaning is needed, and probably another closing to calm things down.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Really shouldn't have to be that way. Closing to calm...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chuckboy1129:
Yeah I noticed that. I just looked forward to checking in everyday to see what progress was being made
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LinxuSx:
$50 for Verizon
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] greatnesstx:
Geohot responded, going to send him my phone or 620$ to PayPal so he can purchase it. Waiting his response again. He sounded interested. Freaking excited
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Just remember the risk at anytime you may lose that phone/money and not get it back. Even though this a respected dev the risk is always there. Only provide the funds/device if you are okay with the risk of just giving it away. Otherwise best of luck working with him and be sure to keep us up-to-date. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] greatnesstx:
It's just money, not to sound like a prude but I make enough , also it's at least I can do to help out the dev community since I am not as smart as they are.

I have always pledged and paid for root on various devices.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
You are the MAN!! Awesome of you to do this to help a lot of people out. a great selfless act that will not go unnoticed, especially if this phone ends up being a major part in this root process. :beer::beer::beer::thumbup::thumbup::D:cool::D:cool:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Request

To help keep this thread on-track, I encourage everyone to remember the requested post requirements in the OP:

In short, this thread is for posting your pledge, or bringing to light any new or relevant information regarding potential exploits, holes, cracks, or other collaborative information in regards to devising a method to gain root access for the masses.

These requirements do

NOT

include:

Speculation on whether or not we will gain root

Speculation on who will or will not pay their pledge

Speculation on when we will gain root

Other devices, variants, or root methods that do not apply

Arguing over violation of said points

Unrelated questions, or unrelated information (that would otherwise belong here)

Questioning or otherwise arguing with JCase :)

As with all threads that are of such length, please make sure you search before asking... and keep in mind the purpose of the thread before posting. I am certainly not directing this at anyone in particular, I just want to make sure we keep these things in mind going forward. We all appreciate relevant updates or contributions to achieving our goal here, just not irrelevant information (whether speculative or otherwise). We are losing the options on XDA for watching how this process is unfolding... Lets not lose this one to a few ill-informed arguments -- not with such a promising bounty and increasing involvement from the dev community. Overall, everyone is awesome - and this thread has certainly lived up to its purpose in generating exposure and interest. It would just be a shame to lose it now because of boredom/impatience!

Thank you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
Hey, I'm down to go in on half the funds needed to get a phone for him. Pm me if you want to chat about it. I'm happy to send via paypal. Easy. I'm also super stoked at the potential of having an extremely talented person working with us.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] greatnesstx:
I sent you a pm
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
You got a PM from me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Thread has been cleaned. From this point on there is

ZERO

tolerance for posts that do not fall within the guidelines of the OP. Posts will be deleted and users will be infracted. No more warnings.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
Heh, there is no floppy drive on the S5, unless I was screwed out of mine.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Haha, good point now that I looked into it. We have a few jokers in IRC. :p

Just figured I'd post them in case anything even remotely useful can be found here.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Surge1223:
Im not so sure the people were joking, theres clearly code for it in the kernel source. So at the very least the S5 would understand the code given to it anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Would "floppy" be usb-otg or whatever its called? Or am I way off?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] clickclack333:
It very well could be
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dibeachdude:
From an operating system perspective, there is little difference between a floppy drive and any other form of media. There are differences, but they are almost insignificant. The drivers handle most of the major details that make a define how a floppy drive works.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
Well, no controller (hardware), no reading anything in from it.

Guess you can get an external floppy drive and see if you can get that working.

and usb-otg is usb on-the-go
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
So wouldn't that constitute USB - on the go?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
Umm... what happened to the main root thread with 38+ pages???

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2714140
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USB_On-The-Go

It can mount a usb floppy drive. You can try it.

Has been done before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4LPSNtjbbgE
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Guess they got rid of it. Not a very smart move because the flood of XDA chatters are going to swarm to this thread (regardless of the continued warnings) and the "Ideas for rooting our phones" thread and the madness will ensue.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Lord help us all if we're going to start needing floppy drives to root devices. :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
I'm curious to know what specifically was posted in there to merit removal of the entire thread. I've seen in the past seen posts taken down because of uploaded files of copyright violation, but I'm not sure how a thread on root exploits would constitute a violation in this regard. Methinks Samsung scared an XDA moderator with a cease and desist.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
I didn't see anything in particular but maybe it was something posted quickly and I missed it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Perhaps it was the failure to comply with constant warnings, failure to adhere to the guidelines of the thread and constant off topic chatter. Patience is wearing thin for cleaning the same threads over and over and over...

Orc territory. Trolls not welcome!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] krazy_smokezalot:
What up orc! ??

Sent from my SM-N900V

---------- Post added at 12:13 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:11 AM ----------

I died when I read this lol

Sent from my SM-N900V
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dave1977nj:
I'm in for $25.00 AT&T :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Smokncars:
Anyone try any cyanogenmod hacks the phone supposedly comes ready for it?

Probably dumb question but thought I'd ask.........
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sipple31:
Ditto. $25 here.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dcd17:
$40 for ATT version.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
I just need to throw this out there regaridng the bounty. Some people are pledging certain amounts hopign for certain things. The main point of this bounty is for Root. If a root exploit is found that is what the bounty is claimed. if it is bootloader then thats even better. But please be aware if you are pledging to this and expect the bootloader to unlock and be able to flash roms, kernels etc that may not happen. You may only be getting root and MAYBE (i stress) Safestrap recovery to flash ROMs based on the current firmware of the device.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
This! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buci1er:
i'm in for $100 if we get a nice exploit going
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] johnpaul530:
$25
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Well put, thank you.

... Well, that escalated quickly...

I do agree that an exploit should cross into ATT territory if/when found. Thanks to all helping spread the word on that end. I am going to add all conditional pledges with ATT variant as such for now, and will continue to work to keep exposure up - especially considering how promising this is going so far.

$3100 in less than 12 hours?! There are not enough thanks in a day...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] npos:
$50

I'll put in $50.

And I'll donate another $50 if/when we get the ability to flash kernels and a TW-based ROM, since that would let me update the phone rather than leaving it stuck on software from April 2014.

I'd also point out that in the OP, C0mbe's $1000 pledge is listed as "with disclaimer". That's not really the case... his $1000 appears to be nsa, and he offers an additional $2k for something additional. So there's no need to qualify his first $1k. And a huge thanks to C0mbe and everyone else organizing this or offering to pitch in!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
True. I just wanted to make sure, given the magnitude of his pledge, that there were no misconceptions as far as his pledge and additional amount/info. I did just change it to just link to his post, for reference.

And thank you for yours, good sir
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] x3em:
alright, count me in for $250 for root
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LeKtRiCzzz:
I'll put in $50 towards the ATT Version
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] fpatano:
Im in for $30
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Looks like we got a post on Droid-Life. :)

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/23/verizon-galaxy-s5-bounty-for-root-tops-3000-in-one-night/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] waleed300:
Beautiful! Looks like they got my tip I sent them!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lenwink:
In for $100.00

Not giving up my S3 till root is found for S5. Day it is I will purchase S5. Where I live, Verizon or ATT only have coverage so I am locked in.

I pledge $100.00 for Verizon root.

Aloha,

Len
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Gaijin42:
25

$25 USD
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] droidiac13:
I'm in for $100 for an AT&T root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Gaijin42:
two bounties

Since the ATT & Verizon bounties may not be satisfied by the same exploit, perhaps we should not be summing the bounties together, but separately? If someone's exploit solves both platforms, then they just get both.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skadeb87:
$40
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
I'm just wondering why AT&T subs are commenting on a Verizon Galaxy S5 Sub-forum. xD

I'll also kick in a $C for root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Not a supported:

http://wiki.cyanogenmod.org/w/CyanogenMod_Installer#Supported_Devices
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Smokncars:
Man on the versus compare phones app it says ît was. ......
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Surge1223:
I was just saying, the avenue was worth exploring a bit more but nonetheless the .config file in the kernel doesnt have the floppy drive enabled as a block device (its not present in the defconfig at all...) so back to figuring out a way to utilize the flaw in n_tty.c I guess.

P.S. If you're on linux theres no reason to not have this kernel compiled. Here, I've typed the make line for you.

make VARIANT_DEFCONFIG=msm8974pro_sec_klte_vzw_defconfig SELINUX_DEFCONFIG=selinux_defconfig SELINUX_LOG_DEFCONFIG=selinux_log_defconfig msm8974_sec_defconfig

/android/<compiled-kernel-dir>/drivers/tty/n_tty.c would be the file of interest.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
More like a mod closed it (me) to clean a bunch of garbage/off topic posts, then hit unapprove instead of open when done. The whole world isn't a conspiracy, and a C&D isn't going to bring down a think tank thread.

Please stay on topic of this thread, if you have a moderation question PM one of us.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ups2525:
Well I don't mind expressing that I appreciate ya cleaning things up. I was spending a lotta time sifting through all the bones, being picked, trying to get to the meat. :good::good::good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
I'll put another 100 on my initial bounty as well.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RockyCJC:
MODERATOR EDIT - CONTENT REMOVED

Edit: Never mind, put me down for $50

Edit2: VZW only.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LxDroid:
Put me down for $50 for Verizon. Its not a lot, but adds up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dlavery845:
dlavery845: $50
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
This is a family friendly site, let's keep it that way Huh?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
FYI, most likely not too useful for root purposes on our device but just in case anyone is interested hope this might help: http://nelenkov.blogspot.com/2014/05/using-kitkat-verified-boot.html
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dbeam:
I'd like to bump up from $20 to $40, please.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] greatnesstx:
Unfortunately he hasn't responded anymore.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Shadowzerosix:
Remember again, the solution amd means of root WILL be. It's just going to take a little longer than the S4. We will be set free soon enough friends. This turning into a really hot device in the community. Patience is a virtue!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] miked63017:
Out of curiousity have any daring individuals attempted to flash the aboot and sbl images from an unlockable variant on this one? It sounds daring but has worked for other devices, example would be flashing bootloaders from acer a500 onto acer a100 to unlock the bootloader. Just a shot in the dark but the hardware is probably more similar between 2 s5s than the 2 acers. If I still had verizon I would try it...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Oldest trick in the book. Won't work for Samsung devices.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
Signature mismatch, flash will fail.

When we get root you can dd them over and then your phone wont boot ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jideay:
Bump mine from $50 to $100, Verizon
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Justindail311:
Anyone looked at this thread? One guy may have found a vulnerability when switching between dalvik and art runtimes.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52162025
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ssphaneuf:
I think someone mentioned this a while ago. I too have experienced something similar. I took my micro sd card from my sgs3 ( whuch was rooted )and put it in my sgs5 and everything was the same till I changed from dalvik to art. I began to get the " custom unlock"
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
And as many others have mentioned changing from dalvik to ART makes the 'Custom unlock' or whatever the boot screen shows, come up. It's that way for all SGS5 as far as I know.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Justindail311:
Well crap, and I had my hopes up a little. Anyway put me down for $20 on the vzw version.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] namroc1:
Add $15 to my tab.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] djmouse:
Here's a dumb idea but,Im looking at both official firmwares from t mobile and att,extracted them with 7zip, every file is the same exact size except the aboot file,and the csc for att ,now someone said that just taking the aboot file from tmobile and replacing it in the att.tar file would fail in odin but what about taking every file from the att.tar file and dumping them into the tmobile.tar file except the aboot file then flashingo it in odin? Has that been tried?

SENT FROM DJMOUSES SM-G900A
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] djmouse:
I'm gonna give a few things a try tonight to know for myself,if I end up with a brick at least I can say I tried,but as long as I can get into dl mode and have the .tar files I think I'll be good.

SENT FROM DJMOUSES SM-G900A
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] howellcp:
I've got 50 for Verizon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] miked9954:
att bounty

I'm in for 100$ for att exploit
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Thread has been cleaned. Keep it on topic, keep it clean and keep it level. There has been too much time tied up in cleaning this thread already, and it's on its last leg now.

Zero tolerance for anything not outlined in the OP's guide for acceptable posts

and I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want to be the guy that gets this closed down... That's a lot of angry users to have access to my PM box...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bloodrain954:
$100 for AT&T from me, I'd really like this soon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Cleaned. Off topic posts do not belong here.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] corona63976:
root exploit Galaxy S5 VZW

i dont know if anyone knows this but when you change from delvik to ART it shows unlock hopefully it will be rooted from there.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] byte9:
Hey Corona, if you read back/search a few pages you'll see that this has been covered in specifics. TL;DR = It is not relevant and will not aide in any way with boot loader unlock necessary for root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] clickclack333:
What about the process when switching to art? It modifies something on /system right? Could we exploit that?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kilroy1stcav:
The general conscience it's no, it only shows that screen because art is new and is experimental at this point so it ifs a way to let a tech troubleshooting the phone know that it ifs in a different state than pure stock! At least that's the jest of what I've read!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] corona63976:
Damm man!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] inline6power:
an unlocked bootloader is not needed for root. root is needed for bootloader unlock. My note 3 has a locked bootloader but also has root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 2strokenut:
$20 for verizon

$20 for ATT
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] clickclack333:
Thanks for explaining. Understand now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] corona63976:
Yea thanks man :(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] nuttinchyllen:
any update?

There any updates on this root? Anyone think it's really going to happen? Also what did the bounty get up to last time before someone got it? Would be my first root and I'm excited. Switched from an iPhone so I really want to try this phone rooted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Well, I guess you get a pass for being new. Welcome, on both accounts! Been trying to help keep things in line, while also trying to post infrequently as not to clog anything up myself...figured its a good time to mention some of these points anyway.

This is the bounty thread - generally created to take pledges, but with the option for exploit collaboration,developer updates, etc. There are other possible discussion threads here, and here. I would also advise checking out the forum rules, as well as being sure to read the OP carefully before posting. Additionally, its always courteous to try and read through the thread for answers to your questions before posting, as well as read through the thread titles for a relevant option. If there were any updates on the process, they would already be posted (here, or at some of the other avenues I mentioned above). I know... its a long thread at this point and a lot to read...but skimming and searching can help to make it quicker than it may seem.

I am not sure what previous bounties reached... there have been more than a few, so I suppose the predecessor would have been the S4.

To reiterate:

These requirements do

NOT

include:

Speculation on whether or not we will gain root

Speculation on who will or will not pay their pledge

Speculation on when we will gain root

Other devices, variants, or root methods that do not apply

Questions on the status of root (questions or assistance in development, are ok)

Arguing over violation of said points

Unrelated questions, or unrelated information (that would otherwise belong here)

Questioning or otherwise arguing with JCase

Speculation, and questions pertaining to such, only clog the thread and do not help its purpose. Its also important to remember, further escalating and clogging with pointless arguing (over speculation or violation of) is also completely unhelpful to the purpose. We want to keep it clean, and keep the moderators job to a minimum.

We are all very excited and curious. Its been a relatively quiet and slow process - but there are definitely people looking at it. Many feel very confident and hopeful of finding an exploit, or that the possibility is there. However, we have no idea how long, by what method, or by whom...

...all we know is we have 12.2k sitting at the end of the road for them (theoretically). Are you in? :)

Thanks to everyone for your pledge and in keeping things clean on this thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] byte9:
Correct. My relevant point was to the comment that the UL screen showing(for some) when switching from Dalvik to ART isn't relevant to the task and has been covered. I could have said it better, yes.