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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Surge you are the man!!!!!

Surge may not say it, but I'll say it. THERE IS A DONATE BUTTON AT THE BOTTOM OF HIS POSTS!

If this is useful, DONATE!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jDr0id1007:
Fixed

Thanks surge.

I flashed the stock 4.4 and it made my phone functional. I might of lost root but wtv. Thanks again! So relieved.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
Ok, so per the successful MK2 -> NC5 reports a couple posts above, I took a shot. Now I have a brick, stuck at Safestrap 'Samsung - Custom' screen.

I did the wipe fine, then the stock NC5 zip install, but it didn't ask any module questions, just said it was successful and offered the back button.

I'm downloading the 'go back to MK2' file now to see if I can start over. Any other suggetions?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
It should have been an aroma installer. If not check and see if you downloaded the VRUFNC2 stock rom on accident instead of the VRUFNC5 rom. When you start the NC5 rom install a stock red kitkat screen should show...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ct_tec313:
surge can you help me please ecxtracted hemidall now now when i try to browse to load the tars they wont load but i extacted everthing please help
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
The install via safestrap of stock NC5 (step 4) was indeed NC5, but it didn't ask questions.

I'm open to suggestions on where to go next. If going back to MK2 is the path, in looking at the downgrade back to MK2, all I can do is get to 'download mode' on the phone, no SS recovery for that kind of install. You just say 'flash', with what tool?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
Download Link For VRUFNC5_Rooted_Stock.zip

Is there a working like for the Download VRUFNC5_Rooted_Stock.zip. None of the Mirrors seem to be working. They get like 350mb in and stall out. I've been trying for hours now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ct_tec313:
Can anyone give me a reason why the package tars wont load in hemidall ive tried everything
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hdirani:
Everything Worked Like A Charm

Surge you are the man dude. I dont know how your figure this stuff out but I just did both the downgrade and than upgraded with no issues, Great Job man.:good::good::good::good::good::good::good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ffchampmt:
I haven't seen anyone post about this yet so...

Unless there is an objection I will be the guinea pig and try this from MJ7 straight to NC5 tonight when I get home.

Is there any thing specific here that would suggest this isn't possible?

Sent from my HyperDrive 14 Driven MJ7 Verizon Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] stormfinder:
This just worked for me just fine coming from nc2 to nc5.

I Just wish my wife never woulda updated from MDK, :( i could be running real roms.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
All the files for the downgrade method are Odin files. Odin files use the tar.md5 extention. Then you have to reroot using saferoot, and install SS again after rooting. When you said earlier that the NC5 rom install went through but no aroma came up that tells me its not the right file because the zip wouldn't have installed without aroma. Can you post the md5 of the file?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Do you know how to use heimdall? It wont load tar files in general. You have to tell it what partitions to flash or create a custom packaged tar.gz file.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Worked like a charm Surge. Thank you
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] newkydawg:
Ditto for me! :good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ct_tec313:
No I dont know how to use hemidall this will be my first time so I probably will need a little help.....

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So how do I do that cause I just called vezizon to get replacement phone...lol any help will bw appreciated. ..I know I can do it

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Just need to be pointed in the right direction
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
Cant Find Workind Download For VRUFNC5_Rooted_Stock.zip

Help I can't find a workind download for VRUFNC5_Rooted_Stock.zip. I've followed the links from the OD and none of the mirrors work. They all stall out aorund 400mb. I've been tring for the past few hours with no luck.

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I learned how to use heimdall from reading for maybe 15 minutes, if that. Did you try looking up how to use it?

1. I need to know what you're trying to do (upgrade to NC5? Downgrade to MK2?)

2. I need to know your OS (Win? Mac? Linux?)

3. How did you flash anything in the first place without using Odin? I mean you wouldn't have been able to start this process unless you knew how to use Odin/heimdall already

4. Have you looked into using Jodin? Please google first...my rule of thumb is if I can find the answer within the first 3 results from google....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] decaturbob:
Download to pc?

sent by safestrap enabled bajarom
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
Downloading To PC

To A PC

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] daodom1029:
Is there any pros to upgrading from NC2 to NC5. Changelog? And is NC5 have Google wallet working like NC2. Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] con100:
What you just posted is foreign language to me. Where can I download the NC2 apnhlos?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
Thanks for the help. I'm currently doing an Odin install of the Full-Wipe-NonRooted-MK2 in the hopes it will still work and I haven't killed my downgrade ability by getting too far into NC5 before. If that works, I will try again the MK2->NC5 method of the 1st post (and check the md5's first).

Thanks Surge, I really appreciate the hand holding.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ct_tec313:
Well I tried to upgrades to nc5 from nc2 but picked the nc5 modules instead of modem stuck on boot screen so im trying to downgrade but I never used heimdall so I panicked have a windows computers

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Do I have to strictly use hemidall for the down grade method or can I use odin this has been a rough day for me

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Sorry people too much ganja and not sleep and a whole alot of paranoia. .....lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JeeperDon:
All fixed. I used the stock-unrooted-MK2 odin restore to get back from brick to functional. I then saferooted it, then safestrapped it, then ran through the MK2->NC5 procedure again, which worked fine, and all is well. I'm now on NC5 and rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Baking up all my apps now using Titanium to get an "update.zip".

Plan to get upgraded later today. Glad it worked going from MK2 -> NC5.

I don't know why it would not.

The whole phone is being wiped.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Hey is voice recorder an option in aroma? Not sure if maybe I just missed it or something.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Ill upload all the apps and other stuff I removed into an installable zip
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Coolness thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] outsid0r:
any chance anyone has a fully stock but rooted nc5? there seems to be issues with isis working on it and i need isis to work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Cool! I think I'll wait until the zip is uploaded.

I want to do it all at one time.

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Not to be a pain, but there is no way to root NC5 OTA.

Therefore there will be no "fully stock" NC5 rooted.

If you are on this thread.........
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
Did anyone try a dirty flash over NC2?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
Can't download from mirrors

Please Help. I'd love to give this a go but can't find a working download. I've tried all the link on 2 different pc and an ipad and all the mirror links stall out at 400mg. What am I missing? How can I get this file?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xray49er:
In trying to update my wife's phone I am in Odin but it only allows me to only use ap. I can't use cp can someone help me please greatly appreciated
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Scottchy014:
Make sure you downloaded the Odin3 v3.09 from the original post. If you've done that, then do it again. Good luck!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xray49er:
Yeah I was using an Odin I already had re downloaded and everything went great. Thanks for your help
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
Problem with setting lock screen

Operational issue. All was good after my first upgrade try, except that I installed a keyboard during the upgrade... (long story short) I wanted to start over. Downgrade goes fine. Upgrade goes fine.

But, I can't set a lock screen PIN. It always shows "Screen Lock - Swipe", even after going through the process of trying to set a PIN. And, even on a fresh install, It acts like you can only do PIN or Password lock. I know for a fact that the first time through, I could set a PIN. Everything else seems fine

I went through a second downgrade (to MK2)/upgrade (to NC5) cycle. While on MK2, I could set a PIN. Immediately after the upgrade, same as above (acts like you can only set PIN or Password, but can't actually set either - always stays at "Swipe"

Anyone with a clue?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] con100:
I followed all your steps to downgrade. So why wouldn't I have sound.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] rycheme:
Everything worked great, thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BigFUZZYk:
Throw Me Bone Please

Surge1223 Throw me a bone please on this download
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scootier:
I've downloaded both on phone and computer. Both with a valid MD5.

The issue is on your end.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshtb86:
hey guys

i already accidently did the OTA - and it updated me to NC5 (which is weird bc i was rooted and had a ton of system apps frozen and it still updated)

is there a method for me to root now or somehow use this method to get root? or am i screwed at this point
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] garnet&gold:
Sorry to tell you, but from everything I've read, there is not root or downgrade method currently for the OTA.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshtb86:
yeah thats what ive figured out from other threads. ugh. stupid thing popped up out of nowhere when i was using phone. guess ill have to wait until a method is found.

if anyone is working on one, let me know. might be willing to donate.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
Is there something which prevents an unrooted phone from downgrading using the process described in the OP? If you can do that, you can then re-root/safestrap and try again.

(Hint: "flash" means use Odin to upload an "AP" image to the phone. I recently came over from HTC, and that wasn't obvious to me.)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] con100:
So I got fed up with trying to fix it and just tried doing the OTA update to KitKat. That got my sound back. I'll just wait until someone figures out how to root it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I asked you if you got bypasslkm working and to flash the NC2 apnhlos. You said that was foreign language to you...did you even search for the NC2 hlos? Or attempt to use bypasslkm? You didnt have sound because your kernel and bootloaders are mismatched so you would have to use bypasslkm to allow the modules that control wifi and sound to be loaded.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Im 87% sure you can still downgrade from stock NC5...actually more like 93% sure. Theres nothing I see that would make it anu different than downgrading from stock NC2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] con100:
No I didn't because I didn't know I had to do any of those things. But it's done now since I'm on stock 4.4.2 which is ok to me. I'm just happy I have sound back.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Slowbalt:
Can I use a 4.4.2 rom in safe strap with gigili port thing or with a custom ss rom?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ffchampmt:
Add MJ7 to the list

[MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] just to let you know you can add MJ7 to the list that can install using the OP. :laugh::good: I successfully went MJ7 -> NC5 and am now on KitKat!

Thanks for all your hard work. I will be hitting the donate button soon and I hope many others do as well.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] aznjosh:
worked flawlessly thanks surge! questions: does this update the bootloader? anyone else getting these annoying "cooling down" notifications? i'm also unable to set a lock screen anything other than pin/password. the rest are greyed out and say "turned off by administrator, encryption policy or credential storage" any clues?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
I don't know what's up with SafeStrap. It randomly stopped working after several wipes and reboots. Internal storage apparently also got wiped. Not entirely sure what is going on here. Safestrap won't install anymore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BillyTheBull:
I went through the update method today, and everything worked -- thanks! However, I have noticed the same problem aznjosh has with the lock screen; as a matter of fact, even though the pin and password options are not greyed out, they will not "take". In other words, I cannot lock my phone at all right now, which kind of sucks.

By the way, I have not gotten any "cooling down" notification, even after downloading 70+ apps over maybe an hour, so I can't speak to that.

Finally, I would really LOVE to get rid of that stupid Samsung boot animation, but while I can get to the relevant files in the system/media folder, I am unable to rename or delete them (or change permissions, for that matter). I have tried running the "mount system r/w" script in ROM Toolbox, but that doesn't seem to make any difference. Any ideas??
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] aznjosh:
yeah i actually can't change the lockscreen either even though pin and password aren't greyed out. it's extremely annoying.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Any news on on the stock apps zip file?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
Looks like I'm going to have to do some reading. Had some issues when I got NC5 running, can't remember what. Ended up doing a factory reset through the stock recovery menu...big mistake. Somehow that borked Safestrap. Couldn't reinstall. Have now downgraded to mk2, but Safestrap still doesn't work. I might simply stick with NC2 if I get this working again.

Edit: Looks like I'm back in business. Had to downgrade to MK2, then factory reset, then root, then install SafeStrap, then flash again...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
Okay...I think I've identified a bug. Safestrap 3.72 will not install on NC5; I cannot reboot into SS.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Worked for me
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
SS has to be installed before doing the upgrade (the app won't be there after, but the splash screen/recovery is) - did it simply go away? It was there after the upgrade for me, and still there after reinstalling the SS app, then telling it to (re)install the recovery.

How are you rebooting? Hold power->Restart->Reboot->OK or another way? When rebooting, do you first see the black/white "Samsung Galaxy S4" splash screen? What happens if you "Reboot Recovery" from the SS app?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ffchampmt:
Same issue with the lock screen here. Thought I could work around it but Time Pin app won't work either. I do need to secure my phone ?

Sent from my HyperDrive 14 Driven MJ7 Verizon Galaxy S4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
MK2 --> NC5 worked fine .....

thx Surge
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
Looks like a few people have the problem with not being able to set a lock screen PIN.

I tried installing Removed-NC5-apps.zip. No change. Then I went all the way back to installing the full wipe MK2 image. PIN works fine there. Did the upgrade to NC5, PIN broken.

Also, Google search isn't installed? The Google search widget doesn't work until I go to Play and install Google Search.

I'm thinking some things were pulled out of the factory image which are needed, and aren't in Removed-NC5-apps.zip.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshtb86:
did you do the OTA initially? how were you able to do that and go back
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Oh and I have yet the see the com.andriod.phone fc.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Surge linked it in the OP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Thanks,

I didn't see it. Found it!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Does this open us to flash all 4.4.2 international SS compatible roms?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
I think so, but you have to flash jkruse's modules. Haven't tried it myself so I'm not 100% certain how well it will work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Hmmmm OK ya that's what i thought.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blueboymj:
Got mine up and running in about 20 minutes. Android.phone crashes on start up tho. Other than that runs smooth and I have root! Thanks again [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION].
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Does Android.phone crash on every boot up? Have you tried wiping Dalvik & Cache and fix permissions?

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Another Question, just to be clear. At this part:

8. Once the Odin flash is complete reboot the phone into Download mode again and flash I545VRUFNC2_cache.tar.md5

Do you do this via the 3 finger salute with the power/vol down/home key OR do you let the phone boot up into SS Recovery and enter Download mode from there?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Boot into regular Recovery, factory reset, wipe cache and reboot

It doesn't really matter either or.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Sorry about the force closes on boot, I didnt spend that much time trying to build the rom as best I could, I was more focused on getting it to boot and keep root permissions.

The rom has the following features:

-deodexed

-debloated slightly

-root

-init.d

-busybox

-tethering enabled

-fixed write to external sd issue (that's a KK issue, but I enabled write to ext. Sd, thanks beans)

-added AOSP Browser and Pop-Up Browser

-I think that's all...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
It's running good as is. Can't wait for mods later on
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoxBeatdown:
For the downgrade, should i push bypassklm, bypassklm.o or bypassklm.c ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
bypasslkm
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blazingwolf:
That worked. Thank you. Had my dumb button on for a minute. :eek:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] leandrae400:
how do we go about rooting if we did not use this method to update and just used odin to install the leak?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Try downgrading to MK2 via the directions at the bottom of the OP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
I think we might be out of luck for now unless someone looks into the old ways of rooting....usually once root is found they move on from there...I'm not complaining and I don't blame them....just more reason to be patient when this stuff starts lol...Again these guys work hard on this stuff and deserve more than they get......

edit.. I tried the downgrade last night but it didnt work for me ...i have problems with my cable and computer communicating for long periods of time...so went back to leak..worked with fingers crossed...so will just wait to see if root is found another way...which is the reason for my first post (did try different cable and a laptop)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] leandrae400:
well dang...lol man i put everything on the ext card but when i wiped everything it did not see my ext card so i was attempting to make sure it was in and in doing so the battery fell out....just my luck and now it wont boot past the samsung s4 screen so i decided to just download the leak on my other s4, transfer the file to my computer and just odin to the leak on the paperwieght s4...lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blazingwolf:
OK. Got back up and running on MK2. Rooted and got Safestrap installed. Went through the process again. Now when my phone reboots to recovery to install the cache file I'm getting an error. I see:

E: Error in /cache/recovery/sec_csc.zip
(Status 7)
Installation aborted.

I've downloaded the cache file twice with the same result. What am I doing wrong?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Worked good for me. I downgraded to 4.3 and upgraded to 4.4.2 with root. After all the Odin steps I had to go into stock recovery and wipe data and cache.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I used to get that error, I had to re-downgrade to MK2 then flash cache.img.ext4 from mk2 in heimdall then i upgraded using the method I outlined in the OP and manually flashed the NC2 cache.img.ext4 in heimdall.

Which cache file are you referring to? Did the 1545VRUFNC2_cache.md5 file successfully flash in Odin? I only got this error once though in all the tests I did. The whole section in the OP that says If the above step fails... was written specifically for errors like this. Did you try what I suggested under there?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] blazingwolf:
The cache file flashed successfully in Odin, however, when it goes to recovery I get the error I mentioned.

Yes, I tried heimdall. I got the same error.

I will try the downgrade again and flash the MK2 cache file in heimdall and see where I get.

Was it the stock MK2 cache.img.ext4 that you used?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BoxBeatdown:
The downgrade to MK2 fully worked! thanks Surge!

One question: will the fact that the baseband is still version NC2 have an impact when flashing other roms like Hyperdrive via SafeStrap?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
In terminal emulator to fix wifi I get, unable to chmod bypasslkm: no such file or directory. Any ideas?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mikeneff2006:
We all appreciate all the hard work you and the team did for us here in maintaining a root while updating to 4.4. Trust me you devlopers are greatly appreciated amount this community. I hate to be the one to ask really. But did this move us any where towards an unlocked bootloader? Did this leak provide any information that's going to help us in the long hall or are we still just as stuck with a lock down as we were on MJ7?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
How did u get the wifi to fix, I've tried but get the above error.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
I would do a backup in SS first. That way you could always restore.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Oh of course ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
It simply went away. When I did the downgrade last night I attempted to install SS3.72...wouldn't work. 3.71 did. Did the upgrade again and am now on NC5 but I currently have no way of flashing anything.

I have tried rebooting via Safestrap, rebooting via the power menu, and a battery pull. I get the Samsung Custom padlock screen as usual, then the screen goes black where SS would usually pop up, then the boot animation starts. The Safestrap app reports Not Installed; it won't reinstall even though it goes through the motions and reads Complete, it remains at Not Installed.

I have never taken the OTA. I love having complete control over my hardware and while being unable to run AOSP bugs me, it is working for the time being. I will NOT blindly charge down a path with no avenue of return.

Something worthy of note: I do not get the Phone FC at boot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tech_head:
Dumb question but just want to make sure.

We are not flashing the boot loader, so the MK2 boot loader will be untouched, seowe can just flash an image in ODIN and go back to MK2 stock?

Correct?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] V0latyle:
I just downgraded...again. Sound is not working, even after pushing bypasslkm. I get an error on >insmod dhd.ko: insmod: init_module 'dhd.ko' failed (File exists).

I tried to install Safestrap 3.72 without 3.71 first. Safestrap recovery splash screen does not come up on boot. Uninstalled recovery, uninstalled SS 3.72, reinstalled 3.71+recovery. It works. Sound still doesn't...