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[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] datkwikracer:
I bought my Kindle Fire HD 7" refurbished from an Ebay seller back in June 2013.

About 2 months ago it started randomly shutting down and wouldn't turn on until after I charged it for a while.

4 nights ago I tried to turn it on but it wouldn't. I figured the battery was dead so i charged it overnight. The next morning it still did not turn on.

I researched a bit but couldn't find anything relevant. I did try resetting by holding the power button for 20, 30 seconds even 2 minutes and nothing.

However when I connect it to my PC through USB, it shows up as if nothing was wrong.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stunts513:
What is it showing up as, the mtp device? if so i would assume either the backlight went out or the cable for the entire lcd screen section came loose. If it shows up as a omap device then the problem could be worse.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] datkwikracer:
Yeah as an MTP device I think. As in when you connect any device and a window pops up asking if you want to transfer files or sync or open folder or something.

But yeah it seems my screen is the culprit. While it was connected to my pc I held the power button to reset and the pc made the sound it makes when you disconnect a usb device. So I held the power button again while still connected to the pc and shortly after it made the other sound the pc makes when you connect a device. Then the MTP window pops up so I slide to unlock where I think it normally is and I start tapping the screen and then I get some sound from one of my daughters apps.

So it seems to be working except for I can't see anything on the screen. So its obviously something with the screen like you thought. I spoke to Amazon and they offered me an amazon refurbished replacement for $90. Should I go that route?

Its the first and probably the last time I buy refurbished especially if its not from the manufacturer.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stunts513:
I don't know their policy too well but I would just double check before they give you a new one and make sure they don't send you the 2013 model as a replacement, that would suck if they did since its not romable.
[General Accessories] apertotes:
Hi!

This thread is just what I was looking for! I own a LG HBS-700 and I am more than happy with it. I have no complains about the fit, the sound, calls or battery life. But although it sounds good, I can't help but think that there may be other headsets with better sound quality. I see that you have both HBS-730 and HBS-800, so that is my first question, does the 800 sound better than the 730, and in case you tried the 700, do the 730 and 800 sound better than the 700?

And now, since I am happy with the LG HBS form factor, the only thing I am looking for is better sound quality. I do not need a lighter earbud, or longer battery life. But I do want earbuds, and I need track and calls control.

So taking that into account, how do the Bluebuds, the Backbeat Go 2 and the Jabra Rox compare sound wise to the HBS?

Thanks!
[General Accessories] vectron:
I assume you read my HBS-800 review, right? Yes, 800 sounds better than 730 and thus better than 700 (though I never heard 700, it's inevitable since it was their original release :)). In 800 they actually used JBL drivers, and you get a more detailed sound and deeper bass.

BBX/BBG2/Rox have a different design and form factor in comparison to HBS. So, it's not only the sound but how you wear it. HBS sits around your neck which is convenient when not in use, and it also has dedicated playback and call controls. The sports design of BBX/BBG2/ROX has maximum integration with 2 earbuds connected by wire and in-line remote with multi-function assignment of buttons. Those are more for exercising, running around, being on the move. Though HBS800 has a better sound quality over 730/700, it's not as good as ROX. It could be on par with BBX/BBG2, although its a relative term where some might have better bass while others might have more detailed mids or treble. So far, I'm very impressed with ROX, especially when you match it up with a right pair of eartips and use a bit of EQ tweaking to brighten the sound. I also like how I can hang it around my neck using magnets on the back of earbuds which put these to sleep conserving battery.

But at the end, I still think the deciding factor should be their ergonomics and how it fits your everyday routine. If you want the best sound, there are plenty of audiophile headphones or in-ear headphones that will blow you away (though all wired). Bottom line, if you like HBS form factor and want improvement in sound, HBS-800 will be the answer.
[General Accessories] apertotes:
Well, the things I want are: bluetooth, call/track controls, sound quality.

I am happy with HBS design, but I think I would be happy with BBX or ROX design as well.

I guess that upgrading my 700 to a 800 would improve sound quality, if only because of aptx compatibility. But since I am thinking about upgrading, I wanted to look other options as well, and that's when I found this thread, and your other reviews, and decided to take advantage of your extensive knowledge.

By your last messages, I get the idea that, everything else being equal (good reception, perfect fit, equal quality of the source), the best sounding earbuds would be the Jabra Rox, right?
[General Accessories] vectron:
That is correct, the quality of ROX sound is by far superior. Plus, you get an excellent build quality, BT4.0 and NFC support, and that magnetic sleep mode is sick! Look at it this way, it never hurts to get it from Amazon and test it out. If you hate it, you can always return it back. But to save you time from buying all 3 :), in my opinion the sound and build quality of ROX is the best.
[General Accessories] apertotes:
Well, I am almost convinced. But I decided to check a few reviews before. Most professional reviews agree with you. But user reviews (most of them in the apple store) are not that kind. Many people complain about the fit. They say that the magnets are not very strong, and the earbuds are easily separated, turning them on, and even pairing with your phone if they are close. Also, they say that the wings fall down very easily.

I do not plan on working out with them, or at least not too much, but I do plan on wearing them for prolonged periods of time, so I would really like them to be comfortable to wear, and easy to fit. I think that I will go to an Apple Store to see if I can try them out before purchashing them.

In any case, thank you very much for your help!
[General Accessories] Trunks78:
Thank you for the review! I think I'll buy them
[General Accessories] Themuzz:
[MENTION=3996566]vectron[/MENTION] First of all thanks for the review!

I myself am looking for wireless bluetooth earbuds I can use for sporting but also around the house (while connected to my phone which is in my pocket). Accidentally I came across the Jabra ROX earbuds, which seem to be new and contain some quite features. However, I'm not yet sure I should buy them compared to some others I found:

Jabra ROX: looks to be a good product however on the iTunes store the reviews state that the call (microphone) quality is bad, the magnets are not strong enough to keep them together while muffled away or around your neck while running, and the bluetooth connection sometimes goes down while your phone is in your pocket. Is this also how you see it?

Plantronics BackBeat Go 2: seems to be a good choice as well but is older than the ROX (maybe in this case newer is better :) )

Denon AH-W200: should have a great audio quality and also one of the best picks according to toptenreviews. However, again some reviews state a bad bluetooth reception..

Could you give your personal opinion on whether the ROX is the best choice in my case? I will use them for running so the bluetooth connection can't go down often. Also, while walking I'll might use them for a call and when home I'll use them for listening to music (hopefully good quality?)

Thanks!
[General Accessories] vectron:
I would not recommend Denon. Awful reviews everywhere, on amazon it has more 1-/2-star reviews than positive reviews. In general, Denon has not been a strong audio player for awhile.

In a past I highly recommended BBG2 in comparison to BBX and Anker 4.0 because of it's sound quality. But as you can see, they do stick out a bit, and the only way it was usable for me with Comply foam eartips.

I also really like LG Tone series, HBS-730 and 800. But those are good for all around application but not heavy duty exercising especially in a bad weather or if you are doing too much moving up/down.

ROX is currently my favorite because I like the sound quality and magnetic sleep feature and fitment. Yes, the microphone is not the best. If you are spending 10hr a day on the phone and want to use wireless headset - LG Tone will be your best solution. For occasional phone calls while you are running outside or around the house, ROX will work. People on the other side will hear you well, but you will hear them in a slightly tunnel sound. Fitment could be a matter of personal taste, but in my opinion with a right selection of silicone tips and using included stabilizer it was better than BBX and BBG2 where I had to use foam tips with both to keep them in my ears. In comparison, BBG2 sounds thinner and less bass, while BBX a bit bloated and darker. ROX has the best bass quality, and even so it sounds as dark as BBX - it can be corrected with EQ setting (if you use Samsung phone, their built in audio player Classic eq preset turns ROX into audiophil quality sound). BBX sound could be corrected with EQ to sound as good as ROX, but for my use it didn't have as good ear fitment and was inconvenient when not in use hanging unsecurely around my neck. With ROX connected magnetically around your neck, it's not an earth-strong magnet so don't expect it to stay attached if you are running around or doing jumping. The intent is to have your earpieces in your ears while exercising, and around your neck during walking or other basic activities.

To be honest, with headphones it could be hit or miss because we all have a different perception of sound and different ear anatomy. Often, you just have to narrow it down to a few and try them all. Maybe your local Apple store in the mall carries them all to try it out? Otherwise, Amazon is your friend with hassle free returns ;)
[General Accessories] Themuzz:
Thanks for the info! So last question, how is the bluetooth reception? If I have a phone in my pockets and the earbuds on my head and move/run does it work ok?
[General Accessories] vectron:
No issues. I just did a test run around our kitchen and living room; my kids found it extremely funny :) I had my Note 2 inside of my jeans front pocket, wireless reception was solid.
[General Accessories] Themuzz:
[MENTION=3996566]vectron[/MENTION] Thanks for letting me know, I'll probably buy the rox on monday :)
[General Accessories] vectron:
Did more testing today. Though music sounds great, I was using it a lot outside while making calls, and it was windy. It works, but the sound quality on both sides of the line wasn't the greatest. So, I'm still sticking to my final assessment that if you are planning to use it indoor for music and phone calls - LG Tone HBS is the way to go. For outdoor exercising and other activities where sound quality has a higher priority while it also nice to be able to make a call, ROX is still my choice.
[General Accessories] Themuzz:
[MENTION=3996566]vectron[/MENTION] Thanks for all the info!

I got the Jabra Rox on Monday evening and took it Tuesday out for a run. Beforehand I tested it out at home and was impressed with the comfort, sound quality and cool magnetic click functionality. Unfortunately when I started running it started coming out of my ears every minute (I did change to the good fitting ear piece parts).

But, today I finally found out that the extra in ear attachments for the Rox keep it perfectly in place while running. Didn't fall out once :)

So I'm pretty happy with the purchase! Thanks [MENTION=3996566]vectron[/MENTION] for helping me make my decision.
[General Accessories] ngoonee:
Looks like a great device. I know its a very different form factor, but what do you think of sound between this one and SMS Sync by 50?
[General Accessories] turt:
Hi,

Could anyone comment on the audio/video sync when watching movies or youtube videos?

I've seen a review claiming there's a delay, but I'm not sore whether it's due to the Dolby sound (which I don't care about) or if it's inherent to these earbuds?

http://coolmomtech.com/2014/04/jabra-rox-wireless-review-jabra-sound-app/

Thanks!
[General Accessories] bob_the_one:
Hi,

I bought them before I have seen your review. I thougt about using JBL J46BT but didn't ordered them because something deep in me said "wait till they are cheaper". My luck because as I saw the ROX I didn't cared about the price and ordered them right away. And I've done the right thing, the ROX are awesome. I've got them today.

I didn't had the WOW-Feeling right after unboxing. I use Poweramp on my Note 3 and I think I'll have to search for the right EQ setting because first time hearing wasn't different to my very old creative wp250. I also thought they're a little bit quiet, but that could be my ears ;)

Then I installed the jabra app and, unlike you, I was blasted away by the difference I was listening to the metal opera "epicloud" by dewin townsend and I heard sounds I've never heard before.

Like you said I can't believe that this is bluetooth/wireless. But the jabra app doesn't has widgets or something like that so the music control sucks in that way. Hopefully I will find the right EQ preset für Poweramp, does somebody has a trick or a hint?

I use the double ear buds and the extra ear wings and they feel like they are glued to the ear even after 5 minutes headbanging :D so I think the're sportsproof too.

The in-line remote works like wanted and I don't do calls with my headphones so this feature isn't critical.

I will test them over the next few days but I don't think they will disappoint me.

At the end I have to ask could somebody implement the jabra app features into an other player? Or give me a hint how i get the perfect EQ preset?
[General Accessories] vectron:
I had no issues with audio/video sync, though I don't use Jabra app and dolby surround. That could add some echo effect to the sound which could contribute to some delay.

Regarding EQ setting, this is one of those YMMV type of questions :) I listen purely to commercial EDM and Dub, but found a Classical EQ setting in my Note 2 default media player to give me an audiophile quality sound while using $0.99 hybrid eartips from ebay (Sony look alike style). I wish I would have known the exact setting behind that EQ present so I can duplicate it in other medial players with their own built-in EQs. In my opinion, you can lift a veil off the default ROX sound by playing with some upper frequencies boost. I think they tried to have a default bassy sound, typical V-shaped signature with recessed mids, so leveling it off helps to bring up clarity.

After using ROX for awhile, I still confirm their sound and fitment is the best among other similar headphones (BBX, BBG2, Anker 4.0). The phone call quality is not that great, so don't count on it if you are planning to use it for long calls (Tone's HBS series is better for that). And the magnetic sleep function is both Good and Bad. I really like how you can just take these out of your ears and place it around your neck with attached magnets to form a necklace. It also great how it goes to sleep to save the battery. BUT once you try to store these in a headphone case or a pouch, magnet is not strong enough to stay together under a pressure of small storage space, so these come apart and it automatically pairs up with your phone. Even when you hold the multi-function button down to turn these off, as soon as magnets attach and come apart, it turns back on and pairs up with your phone. I have them stored in a small headphone hard case, and very careful when zipping it up to make sure magnets stay intact.
[General Accessories] bob_the_one:
you were absolutely right I am trying the samsung stock player right now and it sounds very good indeed now I don't need the jabra app anymore. sadly I have to say goodbye to poweramp but hey thats the price for an audiophile :D

audio/video sync is okay, no problem with that
[General Accessories] turt:
Great, thanks to both of you!
[General Accessories] MindfulSheep:
Just received my pair of these today. I absolutely love the sound, and the convenience of being able to wear them around your neck with them being magnetically attached is such an amazingly simple and useful function. This is my first pair of bluetooth earbuds, but I suspect that I won't be replacing them for a long time.
[General Accessories] ngoonee:
They're quite hard to find in my country, even though I've already decided to buy them =(. If I'm impatient I may just go for the plantronics backbeat 2.... =(

vectron - how much difference would you say there is in terms of sound quality between this and the backbeat 2?
[General Accessories] vectron:
You will not go wrong with either of them. Until ROX, BBG2 used to be my favorite. In comparison as I mentioned before, BBG2 sounds thinner and doesn't have as much bass impact. But the sound is equally detailed and clean. For me ROX has a better and more secure fitment (on the same level as BBX), it has a small profile so it doesn't stick out of my ears as much as BBG2, and with a right EQ setting and good set of eartips - ROX can sound as good as some of my wired headphones. BBG2 on the other hand has a recharged storage pouch and a free app which can tell you how much battery life is left on the earphone. Me personally, I prefer ROX, but either BBG2 or BBX are still great bluetooth headsets.
[General Accessories] ngoonee:
Thanks. In my local currency its between 469 for the Rox and 289 for the BBG2 (with case). Looks like the BBG2 is more value for money. I do like my bass though, and have never been happy with how it's lacking in bluetooth headsets (i hardly use wired anymore for convenience's sake). Have owned the Jabra Sport before, audio wasn't good at all. The Halo was better, but not much bass. Otherwise cheap no-brand products have of course been disappointing.

The case is interesting, but I don't think I'd want to carry yet another thing around. Looks like for me the Rox still makes more sense. Doesn't it have the battery-checking functionality built-in (without needing an app)? Sounds more convenient to me, that way.

Perhaps I'll buy both (BBG2 for my wife) and take the charging case for the Rox =p.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Yeah, most of these sports bluetooth headsets have battery checking functionality when you press one of the volume buttons, it tells you high/med/low level of battery, Plantronics app was a bit more precise, but also keep in mind BBG2 battery capacity is less than ROX and BBX, so you might have to check it more often ;) ROX has a really good bass, as a matter of fact I'm only referring to EQing the sound in order to reduce some bass and bring up upper mids/treble to brighten the sound to a more "audiophile" level. By default without EQ, you will get bass in your face! :) From what you are saying, sounds like ROX might be the one for you, as long as you have low expectations about phone call quality using those ;)
[General Accessories] MindfulSheep:
I'm having some issues with these now :(

If I have both phone and media audio enabled, then rarely will these be recognized as a media device when they connect. I have tried a few apps such as Soundabout and Bluetooth Auto Connect to see if they rectify this issue, but no luck. They seem to be recognized fine, however, if only media audio is enabled in bluetooth settings. Once they are connected, I can then enable phone audio and everything seems to be okay, but it's obviously a pain to have to enable that every time I connect and to disable it when I disconnect. I've been trying to figure out a way to enable and disable that with Tasker, but haven't been able to find a method to accomplish that.

I'm not sure if this is a problem with my phone or Rom. I have an HTC One M8 with ViperOne Rom. I think I'm going to just end up returning these.
[General Accessories] ngoonee:
Most likely a ROM issue. Isn't too hard to do a nandroid backup and flash a stock ROM.
[General Accessories] MindfulSheep:
Yea I think I'll give that a try tomorrow. I'll have to try it both with stock as well as stock rom just in case it might be an app. I'll update with results.
[General Accessories] vectron:
I'm on stock Note 2, no issues.
[General Accessories] MindfulSheep:
The problem persists with both stock Sense and stock ViperOne rom. I'll continue to look for a solution, but my hopes aren't too high since I have already put a lot of effort into finding a fix.

Update: I believe I have found a solution, although not an ideal one. Using the secure settings plugin with Tasker, when the headphones connect, I have Tasker disconnect and then reconnect them with some waits thrown in. It seems that doing this, for some reason, forces the media audio to be established before phone audio, and this solves the issue, oddly enough. So far it's been working properly.
[General Accessories] ngoonee:
Got my pair, and yes the music sounds great! Haven't tried it on calls yet, but that's minimal usage for me I think. Quite happy with these, thanks for your reviews vectron! Would not have gone for them otherwise, as the only quality bluetooth headset in my circles is the jaybird bluebuds x my brother has.
[General Accessories] vectron:
So what does your brother think of these?
[General Accessories] ngoonee:
No complaints, and they do sound really good, with good battery life. Going to do an audio comparison test with him the next time we meet =)
[General Accessories] moviehunter2009:
Sorry but can i charge them with my samsung HM1500 power suply? or my Htc? samsung is 4,7v i think and Htc is 5v......what do you think?
[General Accessories] pat4005:
Hi, I think I have the same or at least the similar problem. Can you clarify for me what did you exactly do in Tasker to work it out. And how fast Jabra ROX fully connects to device with your solution?
[General Accessories] sm753:
Connection issues?

Hopefully this thread is still somewhat active.

Does anyone have issues getting these headphones to connect? I have the Moto X, all other BT speakers, headphones, and car stereos I've used pair and connect almost instantly. Except for the Rox.

When I turn them on, I'll look under BT settings and it'll be stuck on "Connecting..." for the Rox...until I power cycle the headphones and/or turn BT on/off on my phone until they finally connect. That or they'll connect and say "Connected (no media)". Really aggravating - I should have returned these immediately but now I think I'm pass the return period. The only thing ruining an otherwise great pair of headphones.
[General Accessories] vectron:
Have you tried it with any other phones/tablets to see if you have the same problem? You still get a warranty from Jabra, so perhaps service it under warranty for a replacement. If it still doesn't work, could be something with your setup. In general, Moto X does thing their own way, you can't use any of the standard wired headphones with android controls since their implementation is different. But this is a wireless headset, doesn't matter which phone or Android/iOS, it should work. There could also be something with your BT connection. Un-pair (or turn off )everything and try to do a fresh pair up with ROX only.

The only gripe I have with these are those stupid magnets. You turn headphones off, magnets got attached, and if they come loose - headset turns itself back on and pairs up with your phone. Very annoying when you put these in a bag and have everything off, and they come loose inside and the next time someone calls your phone you can't understand why you can't not hear the person - headphones paired up without your knowledge inside of your bag lol!!!