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[Nexus 5 General] Nburnes:
They have already stated there will be no wireless charging, even with the swappable backs.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
The entire point of this phone is to show that companies do not need to charge so much for phones. They are confident in their product and they are doing it to gain a place in the market. They're using quality parts. It's not like they got mediatek processors or cheap stuff like that. Go watch some reviews on the oppo find 7 and you'll see somewhat what to expect.
[Nexus 5 General] Lokke9191:
5.5 is just too big. I will never buy a phone with a screen bigger than 5 inches. Imo people look ridiculous making calls on these huge phones. There needs to be a size limit for everyone, and mine is 5 inches. Plus...wireless charging is an absolute must for me. I absolutely love my N5. The only way to improve it would be voice controls like the Moto x that would respond to a custom hotword chosen by me. If I had that I would be happy with this phone for the next decade.
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
I had the s3 and s4... Loved the capacitive keys UNTIL I ran root box which gave me the nav bar. Once I had the Nav bar I hated the cap keys cuz it was all so redundant. And after owning a nexus, I never want a HW or cap button on the front of my phone ever again. Looks so much cleaner without them
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Just disable it in the settings and you'll never see them again. That's the beauty of this phone.
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
plus i have a feeling that the next nexus will not top the one+1
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Pfft. This is a beta-test phone at best...it's very rough. The 'Nextus' will arrive already refined.
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Definitely better than Sammy style. There's no reason it won't be a great phone... Esp for the price. I'm just no longer a cm supporter
[Nexus 5 General] cnstarz:
find one single ROM thread on the N5 forum where people aren't reporting bugs constantly.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Yeah..that's a major hit right there...but one can flash it. /grin
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
No but the next GPE Galaxy S6 will...
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
I was always a CM diehard, but I think I've finally gotten to the point where I can admit that it's really just not that good anymore. I like the customizability, but it's not where it should be performance-wise. I recently flashed the M5 build and was really surprised at how poor the UI scrolling in apps is and how many frames of animation the whole OS is constantly dropping. Even switching to ART didn't help all that much. I finally ended up switching back to stock rooted KOT49H, and the difference is night and day. Stock is SO MUCH BETTER. I think I can officially say that I'm done drinking the CM Kool-Aid.

I guess my point is that the OnePlus One (Two?) would be extremely interesting to me if it was running a stock build of KitKat rather than CM11. As it stands (and as much as I can't believe I'm saying this), CM is my dealbreaker with this phone.
[Nexus 5 General] TheLastSidekick:
I got to admit that while the Nexus 5 is my first Nexus device I don't intend to look elsewhere in the line up of phones. We get ports of ROMs and apps, tons of custom kernels and ROMs, and because it's a Google phone we among the other Nexus devices are the first line of devices to get the latest Android.

Not saying the OnePlusOne isn't good.. In fact it looks promising especially for the price. It just makes me wonder how they managed to manufacturer and sell it for such a cheap price. Then I over think and muster up that somewhere some of the hardware must be pretty low grade. Besides the fact, let's just face that the Cyanogenmod we all knew and loved is no longer the same nor does it perform as well as it used to. Anyone who thinks you're stuck on CM while you own the phone is a fool though, they're will be so many ROMs for it especially because of pricing. The hard part is getting the invite.

The Nexus 5 advocate (Team Inferno)
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Cataclysm rom has no bugs...... People are too busy whining about adding unnecessary features and asking where the Dev is. I'm glad the thread closed cause I was tired of getting updates and it being self entitled trolls. I still run it on my Multirom setup.
[Nexus 5 General] Citizen_Snips:
Looks seriously impressive. I'll grab it if I can. Not saying I'll be replacing my N5, but I might snag one if I can...
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
None of the nexus phones (including N5) was "refined" at launch.

You forgot we're still waiting for a big bug fix update? And you surely remember the bug fixing 4.4->4.4.2 update which was within a month of the launch of the N5.

Furthermore, you are surely aware that kitkat (design wise) is a half baked product? No consistancy, In some places you still have holo blue switches, in others everything is kitkat white/grey. The settings menu still looks the same since ICS....

We all love android and our N5, but clearly someone @ Google didn't do his homework well.
[Nexus 5 General] howard bamber:
I'm hoping to

From my mobile telephony device.
[Nexus 5 General] 1234west:
Nah. I'm good. Nexus will get updates, unlike the OnePlus.
[Nexus 5 General] :
Actually, they're promising updates for at least two years.
[Nexus 5 General] prstorero:
Motorola also promised updates but almost never came through :P though they're finally trying to do much better now :)

prshosting.org
[Nexus 5 General] DummyPLUG:
So we can really believe this company still around the conner after one year? Few years ago nobody can imagine what happen to Nokia and Motorola. Even Motorola, HTC always said will release update to fix bugs, but eventually the update may cancel in the end. So the question still not answered, only time will tell.
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
even if they dont update it we will still get the updates from here
[Nexus 5 General] Rhadamanthis:
imo speed of nexus 5 is like a hell!!!! snap800+ adreno 330. i sell nexus when produced adreno 430 gpu (+80% of 330 adreno snap800 version) and qualcomm 810
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Slimkat hasn't had a bug in months. Any issue is always user related.

You're welcome
[Nexus 5 General] mistahseller:
And with all the CM ROMs available certainly we will get some extra goodies that CM left out. I don't think development would be as good on the one plus one but I bet it wouldn't be too bad because for people like us, impressive phone, the masses..... I can't say
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Poppycock. I've used every version of Android from Cupcake forward and I have no problem pronouncing KitKat as the most bug free and refined version of Android I have run. My desire to tweak and flash buggier ROMs has waned due to superior stability and performance of stock...there was a time when it was nearly necessary just to get modern features and design...no more. Bugs and design queus are always a process, and I can assure you that comparisons of this new hardware and OS combo against the Nextus and stock Android will be a further testament to Android's superiority in mission and execution. There is plenty of room for cheap hardware and open source dev, and plenty of masochists on this forum willing to hammer away beta testing it...indeed i believe that is its target market. Very shill-worthy.
[Nexus 5 General] frazbox:
Isn't the stock ROM a specific build from the aosp ROM? The same aosp that cm will use? I think that ROM will be rock solid.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Yes and yes. The difference is in the hardware specifics and quality, and how the devs handle the limitations and debug the hardware and software. Nexus as a reference design has a huge advantage..but it is annoying waiting for bug fixes even at the speed of Google.

Edit: for example, someone using this phone currently says it is very rough software and low quality hardware. He claimed call quality was NOT up to par with modern phones and that there was a long way to go before he could consider it his daily driver. Who will fix that? Just one example..
[Nexus 5 General] :
Boot up speed test. Nexus 5 vs. OPO

http://androidspin.com/2014/04/24/video-boot-speed-test-nexus-5-oneplus-one-shows-blistering-speed/

via Android News ( Android News )
[Nexus 5 General] solo13:
No

I have tried a Chinese made phone which has an octa processor and 3 GB ram . I tried to bench mark the phone against others in the market , this octa processor phone ranked less than HTC one X .

The problem is not in the specs , it is the optimization of software and hardware . just like using windows 98 on i7 laptop and without driver
[Nexus 5 General] rubiconjp:
Where will the OTA updates for this phone come from? 1+ or CyanogenMod?
[Nexus 5 General] meangreenie:
lol.. what about the massive services/restart bug which results in stalled 0byte running services?

kitkat is a bugfest.
[Nexus 5 General] Notechis:
Will stick to my N5 cause the differences are not that much.. A port of the Cyanogenmod Version would be nice..
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Never seen it myself. Carry on with your agenda.
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
After reading some comments here, the biggest problem people have is with the "Chinese-company" etiquette, and that's understandable, but many have never seen the quality of OPPO products (whether Blu-ray players or phones...). Many of the OnePlus guys (including CEO Pete Lau) are ex-OPPO employees who worked for many years on producing premium products. They stated from day one (4-5 months ago) that they want to make an all round premium phone with bloat-free software to be sold for a realistic price/value. That's why they decided to go the E-commerce way, to keep peripheral costs down, and have a direct interaction with their customers. As far as i've heard, the invitation system will only be valid for the launch period, later on it will be widely available.

Disclaimer: i'm in no way connected to those guys, and don't have the intention to get the phone as i'm more than satisfied with my nexus 5. But i've been following the hype since day one, and just can't read the misinformation some people are spreading around here.

Design should never be a process, when you (as a company) plan to release an updated UI, you don't theme only parts of the UI, and leave the rest for a future update, you also don't f**k up icon alignment in the status bar.

What i was saying is that android has some nasty bugs that Google acknowledged, some of which have been sitting without a fix for 2-3 years. Furthermore, kitkat introduced some additional bugs (for example, some activities that require to run in background, when killed by the OS are not started automatically later on, so devs have to go with dirty hacks, like a check every XY-minutes if the activity is running or not...) and so on.. Yes, android is refined and more polished now than it had ever been, but we still have a long way to go, of course, minor bugs will always be there, that's just a part of coding we should all accept.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
They're not using Chinese parts in the device. It's not some cheapo meadiatek device. What makes it high quality is all the well known hardware in it.
[Nexus 5 General] Beauenheim:
Mediatek processor is very cheap. While being an octacore, it's not very powerful. While the Qualcomm Snapdragon 801 is.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Engadget Review with tons of pictures including swappable backs

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/23/oneplus-one-launch-ceo-pete-lau-interview/

I didn't know the speakers were tuned by JBL. Thats freaking sweet if you know the quality behind JBL! A lot of you guys don't even see their specs or the features and just assume it's cheap because it's a chinese company. Please actually look into the phone before making assumptions.

Features

http://oneplus.net/one#features-fsp

Specifications

http://oneplus.net/one#specifications
[Nexus 5 General] Notechis:
I would love such design and high-end device a bit smaller , but I read somewhere about different versions , which will come ?

Maybe with a 805 but that wont be such cheap ...
[Nexus 5 General] zephiK:
I think the phone is great all around and there are a lot of nice features but comparing it to the nexus 5 speed. It isn't really that much of a difference, yeah it's obvious that the one plus will be better and faster but the nexus 5 is already as fast as it is. Next year will be snap dragon 810 which will be a better processor than the 801 which is pretty much a bump to the 800 without anything extraordinary.

I'll wait out for the one plus 2 (they should have had better names, but phone names don't matter. Just sounds funny when you say it). Unless this year's next nexus is using a snapdragon 810 if it's even possible for q4 launch for snapdragon 810. One plus is at a better release date.
[Nexus 5 General] jtwlbz:
Not.for me. I don't like cm when they went inc.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
I'm not going to waste my time arguing Chinese etiquette because I'll go with what is quality and delivers, then cost. We pretty much agree I think on that.

Design IS a process and will always be fluid. The direction is what counts. One only has to look at Honeycomb or the Nicki Minaj-ination of IOS7 to see errant design direction. As such there will always be room for subjective improvements. Out of the gate and for a long time after, stock will be more refined as a consequence of gradual improvement over its third-party variants. There is room in the market if One plus can step up and deliver.

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This is part of the hype machine in action. Be skeptical then pleasantly surprised when it exceeds expectations. Lots of first- round picks and an occasional Heisman turn into dogs despite great stats. Wait for it to deliver first...then enjoy the bandwagon if that's your thing.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
I am waiting until I get my hands on one. It's coming with tons of big name hardware manufacturers so I'm expecting it to be good. I'm not jumping on the band wagon. I'm getting it because the same reason I got a Nexus 5. It's the best bang for my buck and unlocked. The Nexus 5 has a lot more cheap components in comparison. The ones who don't acknowledge this are huge fan boys. I fell in love with android all over again when buying my Nexus device though. I'm not hating on my Nexus 5 but the Oneplus one is amazing (spec wise) and if reviews show the quality is top notch, why would someone pass up on it? The whole update thing is bogus because CM will compile from AOSP within a day or 2 so getting an update 2 days late vs a Nexus isn't a huge trade off. I'm eagerly waiting for reviews though. I for one want to support Oneplus since their view on how a phone can be affordable and great quality is something I enjoy. You're right about being skeptical, look at the M8 for example. It sounded really great on specs and such. It took a lot of people by surprise though it did exceed expectations and I'm hoping for the same here.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
What wit and how original.
[Nexus 5 General] LiquidSolstice:
Yeah, because "Nicki Minaj-ination of IOS7" is overflowing with thoughtful and mature original discourse. :rolleyes:. Stock Android on every device is a terrible idea. No OEM would want to do that. Because software is what differentiates, and as an end user, that's not something you could understand. If every device in the world ran stock Android, we wouldn't have much choice in hardware, because why on earth would anyone try competing with Samsung devices if the only thing they could do is use the exact same Snapdragon SoCs that fill up the market right now? Would we then buy devices based on form factor? Or based on camera strength? Or would it be body type, aluminum or plastic?

No one (outside of the minority of XDA users) wants to treat buying a smartphone like buying a computer. These skins exist to give people a reason to choose one over the other, and the benefit of those skins is that the power users (who end up using custom software, either in the form of root or alternate applications) end up getting a wide range of hardware to choose from. Your idealism is often echoed by the people of this forum, but it will simply never happen. This is one of the reasons why Windows phone is doing so poorly; they tried to take an iPhone-like stance on the terms of using their mobile OS and because of this, the only Windows Phones that anyone knows anything about are the latest Lumia 1235 whatever devices.

Android draws its power from its variety, in the related (but not the same) way Windows draws its power from its flexibility in hardware. Whether you like it or not, Sense and TouchWiz drive the market, and they always will.

The only reason I'm interested in the OnePlus One are features and supposed build quality. If I don't have to worry about terrible vibrator motors, yellowed screens, dust under the display, faulty radios, or any of that, AND I can get all of that for $350, you better believe I'll rise up and seize that opportunity.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
It is my accurate and concise description, but he clearly just threw in the towel. :p

I agree with all of this...variety is a great thing. We were discussing the refinement of the two phones in comparison. I'm sure some here will find it a perfect phone, but it is an (dis)illusion that it will be more refined than a Nexus out the gate and anytime soon. Biggest clue is the invitation rollout....it isn't ready for prime time and they know it and current users say the same. That won't stop the feeding frenzy of clickbait 'proof' its the greatest thing ever, but we'll ultimately have to settle for the phone to speak for itself and see of its worthy of adding to our personal arsenal.
[Nexus 5 General] LiquidSolstice:
While your skepticism and down-to-earth-ness is surely warranted and understandable, there is good reason to believe the build quality will be much better because of who Pete Lou is and what he's accomplished. His anal attention to detail is not something to be overlooked (and if you read stories about his obsessiveness at Oppo, you'd know what I mean).

The invitation system doesn't seem to me to be a sign of being "not ready for the primetime", but more inventory control. They are selling this phone at such a low price that they clearly want to secure buyers first, gauge interest, and then (until their revenue grows) only have enough invites as they have phones.

We're witnessing the birth and growth of a company that might turn everyone else upside down, and in the same way that T-Mobile is slowly growing from a distant rumble into a roar, I think there is valid reason to have more faith in this device than the other "me too" devices. Until now, the only way for a phone to hit such a price point has been to shove a terrible budget "8 core" MediaTek processor into it. These guys are not only not compromising on that, they're using the absolute latest Snapdragon clocked at its highest base frequency.

These people are the game-changers, the ones that show you can do something different without being plastic, using the same design, and overloading the phone with software bloat. One of the interviews with Lou that I've read struck me; on the topic of how important the user experience is over the raw parts of the phone, he said something to the effect of "People don't buy power drills because they care about the power drill, they buy it based on how beautiful, clean, and simple the hole it creates is".

As I grow more and more tired of rooting, ROMing, reflashing, kernel this, overclock that, I'm increasingly interested in a world of Android that is beautiful, smooth, fast, well built, and cheap (which is what the promise of Android first was when we were deciding between it and iPhones).

It may still all be words and nothing concrete for now, but in a few days time, that will change and I'm more excited and interested to see where this will go than I am any other upcoming device (or even Google I/O for that matter).
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
OnePlus One First Look and Hands On!: http://youtu.be/evEiekq_Di8

Cm11s doesn't seem very impressive. With that CPU and the ram that is on the op1... There shouldn't be any home screen lag like that

My n5 on slimkat doesn't
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
I need to do more research on Lou and Oppo's mission as you've piqued my interest. (I might locate that interview on YT etc. ) It sounds like he may agree with me that if it can't deliver the perfect clean hole it is wasted effort. The users were indicating most functions working but that they were stressing the 'beta' caveat over and over, trying to influence the prelim reporting, since we all know the PR spin can become uncontrollable and sink the project before it is christened. I'm content to wait and let the phone speak. Cheers! :)
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Nova launcher is the best home replacement ever. It's so smooth and fast.
[Nexus 5 General] LiquidSolstice:
And I'd expect nothing less from someone with as many intelligent things to say as you. (no sarcasm!)

Cheers to you as well!
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
lol the S5 guys dont know anything about the on+1..they are just bashing on the phone 'cause it is a new company..please enlighten them

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2728472
[Nexus 5 General] nikeman513:
I'm getting it. Worst case scenario I sell it for more than it's going for, due to invitation only. I was one of the first to sign up and I'm #580 on the early invitation list they had at first in their forum. So I'm about 99% sure I'll get an invite. I don't plan on selling it though, just if its got issues and RMA is difficult.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Send me an invite please when you get yours!
[Nexus 5 General] nikeman513:
PM email and I will
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
There are no users with this device. There are 2-3 videos on youtube of pre-production units and that's it. I'm not sure what are your sources because you haven't provided any. Thankfully, [MENTION=788951]LiquidSolstice[/MENTION] came along and made an effort to explain to you what i was trying to in my posts, but obviously my poor English was hard to understand, i'm sorry, it's not my native language.
[Nexus 5 General] adibeckett:
Maybe they'll give a discount to those not able to get an invite but were interested before general availability?
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
GEL on n5 with slimkat doesn't stutter like that video does. I agree about Nova... But with those specs I shouldn't need a 3rd party launcher
[Nexus 5 General] :
It does seem like a great phone, but yeah, the screen is too big for me. The n5 is as big as I ever want to own. :)

Can't wait to read about it tho when it gets an XDA section.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] Neverendingxsin:
May I PM you my email as well? Definitely would like to get this phone :)
[Nexus 5 General] nikeman513:
1667Mhz RAM speeds that's better than my laptop! And 578Mhz GPU vs 450 in our phone, this is going to crush even the Nexus 6. Not to mention 3100mah battery? I want to go to bed with this sexy beast! I can't wait!!

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Yeah just PM me and I'll do as many as I can (anyone). Just do the same for me if you get an invite and I don't. Jsydenstr@gmail.com

P.S. In order of submissions to my inbox
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Hey remember the back of the white device is coated with some kind of crushed cashew powder. Not sure if it'll trigger allergies in some of you but it's good to know beforehand.
[Nexus 5 General] nikeman513:
Remember to register and create an account at oneplus.net
[Nexus 5 General] :
Food ingredients in phones now. Lol

What a wondrous world we live in. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Haha its a special paint. It looks beautiful though and reviews say it feels amazing.
[Nexus 5 General] :
I want beer battered case. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] prstorero:
Where can you find out what number you are? I signed up yesterday and am curious :)

prshosting.org