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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
update PERMA ROOT

This will work for all builds and will work through any ota and will allow ota and will keep root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Volvogia:
Why don't you upload the method you have now and continue to test for the other 2 devices? Make everyone less skeptical. Kinda sounds like that Grinch vulnerability and other Linux exploits I have heard about that can effect all versions of Android. I understand that you wanna help everyone but delaying a release and making these kind of posts really makes everyone doubt that much more. Not trying to bash you at all. Just saying how everyone is gonna be.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Maxninja:
Do you have evidence for such of a claim? I have owned an S4 and a Note 3 and every time that I root them and do an OTA, it always - ALWAYS fails at 27% or so when it's downloading or upgrading in recovery. So please shed some light into your claim of such thing?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
If it's true any negativity should give even more encouragement to prove the world wrong and rise victorious!

If a little negative scares him, he had nothing to start with.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
youd be a god if this is true lol! i for one am willing to test on vzw s5 if u need

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lol thanked 24 times in only 3 posts..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
update PERMA ROOT

Waiting till i gather a little cash to buy last test device to release !PERMA!. Sorry i maxed a couple credits getting the phones lol

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Scepticality is good. But where there is sceptical people lay excited minds. I stick to release being christmas eve i still have one phone left to try.. Duh duh duh the s5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
lol really?

If you had something youd provide it and recieve donations to get other devices.

Its not hard to post it with a list of devices it works on.

I simply dont believe it after reading your response... You expect money up front? lol or you really dont have anything...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SkinnyT:
I hate to agree with you, but from what I've seen in the past, you may be right.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
if you really have something and need to test it on the s5 I'd be willing to test.. or at least show us the exploit tht is used to do this

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on a side note, the grinch exploit doesnt seem bad at all.. sounds like something we could use to exploit root and other things on android devices
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
At least you mentioned you would have a video up tonight right.?

That will calm every one down.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
update PERMA ROOT

Dont agree, because he isnt the one on my end. And i never asked for donations and dont expect any till release. But in order for this to happen i still have to mark it as mine and hard code it so someone cant just say they made it and make profits themselves. Its called insurance.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] McKinnisG:
Just asking...

Have you ever gone by a different username here on XDA?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sokrboot:
Ha ha ha! I know what u r getting at [MENTION=1134064]McKinnisG[/MENTION]!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Hmm, you said before this post you were done testing Samsung. Here is your quote from Google+ " I was excited to get it done for every samsung. Finished testing on samsung yesturday. Last one is a suprise. Lol﻿". If this is the case you would not need to buy a S5 to test it. Sounds fishy to me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
This is all shenanigans ignore him and he'll go away.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] smknutson:
My apologies then for speaking for you! I was basing that off your signature. :)

~Sent from my SM-G900A using Tapatalk.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kiroiv:
count me in for $100 on Verizon S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
We have garnered a LOT of attention. Let's get some more! Be greedy about the attention we get on this and get a huge bounty for this root! Come on baby, daddy needs ROOT!

https://www.google.com/#q=Verizon+Samsung+Galaxy+S5+root+bounty
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] iHTC:
$25 for Verizon version.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] yoonus:
$25 for ATT version - Build G900AUCU1ANCE
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mistertac:
$25 for Verizon

I'm still on an MDK S4 and not sure what my next phone will be but I want to contribute something here!

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] brivette007:
I'll take AT&T for $20, Alex.:D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Biff0rz:
I'll pledge $20 for the ATT version.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rabid_Iguana:
Count Me In..

I'm good for $25 for Verizon S5 Root. Lets hope they come through yet again! :D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mohamed Yaser:
Why i donate ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mistertac:
Why not? That's the real question...

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rabid_Iguana:
Agreed!:good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kheltek:
$25 ATT please
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mnorton1228:
25 for Verizon!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Do we have a meaningful way of tracking these "donations" and a way to enforce that people actually pay up if an exploit does become available?

I could say that I'm donating $15,000 and just take it back within 3 minutes of the exploit being released.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cyberace1985:
i would assume it's currently on good faith atm
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
I definitely think there should be something put in place to make sure people pay up. Maybe Demiurge7 can put (paid) next to the name of pledgers that have paid "when root is discovered" and (awaiting payment) next to the ones that haven't. Just so we can all know who to trust.

cyberace1985 is right. People can talk a good game but when it comes time to pay where will they be? The bounty collector is going to have a hard job with this. It takes two seconds to make another account. However you lose your credibility and respect when doing so, so what's the point.

The only "semi" way I can think of is to have the download link for root to be password protected and only give the password to the ones that have paid. But then we are drifting away from XDA standards as a community. Also, I'm sure the password would quickly spread via private messages.

This might have to rely all on trust.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SD_GHz:
Verizon Bounty $50.00

I'll do $50 for Verizon
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rabid_Iguana:
I agree that some people may not want to pay up If/When the deed is done. I pledged what I can afford and intend to pay upon a valid root technique release but Thats me. Maybe each individual pledge gets their own Password for the download upon payment? Could take some time but it's really the only way to ensure everyone pays up when the time comes. My 2 Cents. :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
The only problem with that is this information is supposed to be free. How many other devices have you rooted on XDA (that you didn't pledge on)?

I've taken advantage of some of these threads without being part of the foundation. But once the root is out, it's out. We really shouldn't be regulating the ones that paid vs the ones that haven't.

The point here is to get the ones that pledged to pay.... Not to get everyone wanting root to pay....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] btonetbone:
Before anyone slams or shames the guy, hold tight. Maybe he really has it. No need to jump to conclusions yet. Essentially, there are a few possibilities:

- He has it and releases it. Everyone wins.

- He doesn't have it and nothing gets released. We are in the same spot as now.

- He has it, but the XDA community does its acrimonious, attacking thing causing him to not release out of spite. We lose.

Let's just try and avoid the third option, shall we?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
clearity

During the course of this thread i meantioned i was dont with samsung.... Re:edit, be aware it was a typo i meant to put 4s att after. Therefore the s5 is the last phone i am testing. This is to clear up any dispute.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hashbang173:
Sorry to doubt you but if you post a video of the app unlocking to bootloader of a phone with a boot loader that can't be unlocked (like a Verizon/AT&T S5) people would have a lot more faith in you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
reply/ Update

The s5 is the phone i need to still purchase. I will upload the video when i get s5 and make sure it works. But a few replies may have pushed it a week and only supporters will get private release for a week.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
Lol... Is it getting cold in your mother's basement?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thawte:
He's making a list and checking it twice. To see who's naughty or nice!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hashbang173:
Delete
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thawte:
At least a 1000$ I would assume ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
If only i was a kid. What are you like 5? I live on post. Its called i chose a career as a 19k and i do what your dad is afraid of. So dont act like im some kind of fake and or kid. Thanks. Sir!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hashbang173:
Thank you for your service.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
Lol. No the not so lucky list is being stored in my ip block page from download.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
I have an AT&T S5. Let me test it for you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thawte:
That works too! ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
Anybody is nuts to pay for a promise from someone you don't know.....

Let's see proof first with confirmation from credible people ...

Yes it can be shared with others but people will gladly pay "willfully" If it's worth!

The Dev is not going to get rich if it's not worthy... It will take 5 minutes before the gig is up.....

How many investment opportunities are out there for something that doesn't exist?.. Remember Enron?

At any rate.. That's why we have reviews in Google play store and people make thousands when their product is worthy... This is no different.

Don't pay for a promise.. If the Dev wants to get mad for being held accountable then they are either a crook or a baby and needs to grow up.

There is a sucker born every minute and the more unbelievable the promise the more it's believed!.

Basic snake oil 101.

Lers do this right..... Let it be sent to three trusted and credible people on the forum to test... If good, they will vouch for the awesome product and we're on our way.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thawte:
https://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20101207183941AAmzRVn
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
Funny, I basically said the same thing a page and a half before and you get 4 thanks out of it and I get 0. It must be how eloquent you put it... Haha
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
Give me 4 trusted!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] redusk:
Would the S3 SCH-I535 (Verizon) also be able to be unlocked? If so, I'll test it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
VZW Note 3 here. Ready to give it a shot.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
I'm one. My earlier post was not to bash you, I'm just skeptical from what I have seen before. PM me if you want to talk.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
I would say any 4 devs from here (vzw s5) should work.. I for one said I'd risk my device to test it but recieved no PM from you lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
I offered to test as well. No response.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Volvogia:
Just leave the guy alone. Get that some people thinks he is a fraud but if he is actually onto something then I would like to have a release. Only time will tell.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Afro Samurai:
Probably the best way this should have been handled was to work quietly behind the scenes. Pm a few respected devs and rc's to test and once we have something then drop it on everyone. It would have kept this thread under control and people would not be questioning the validity of what he's working on or not working on. At this point I don't know what to think.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
He can still let people test it, buuut he won't.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SkinnyT:
I'd be more than happy as well to test my s5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] btonetbone:
Anyone see this? Devs, is this something that may be useful in the quest for figuring out the bootloader?

http://www.fredericb.info/2014/12/qpsiir-80-qualcomm-trustzone-integer.html?m=1
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
Exactly!

People will

always be skeptical when selling a half baked cake when a new recipe is being used.

" be the first to get it while it's hot come pre-purchase now! ".... Not me, especially if you don't know if it's poisoned yet.

Not being a debbie downer, just good business and common sense.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Surge1223:
There would have to be something in the trustzone that would allow a bootloader unlock, which I don't think there is in s5 tz from memory. Instead if a dev was committed I could see it being used to write a null value to the module checks and a null value to the selinux is enforcing check thus allowing modules and /dev/mem access. But that's wishful thinking at best.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cdmills:
Can't wait to see unlocked bootloader. Keep working on it and let your work speak for itself. I understand there is some doubt. If it does work, I hope the same people who are quick to write something negative, will be even quicker to retract the negative and write something positive. Let's give him a chance and wait to see if it really works instead of jumping all over him before he releases it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
I've watched this unfold for the last few days and here's my take on it, if you have something aside from pretty screen shots, post proof. Any more trolling and childish fighting and this thread, as well as any others that crop up, will be closed until proof positive of said method is established.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Deliquified:
I wonder if this guy's supposed bootloader unlock is based on djrbliss' exploit?

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/qualcomm-security-exploit-djrbliss/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
On the s4 forums, all the devs said that this exploit wouldn't apply to samsung. I believe that djrbliss himself said this couldn't be applied for samsung too.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Deliquified:
If you click the article and click the summary image it has the GS4 under affected devices..

"..Rosenberg did not release his exploit to the public, which allows manufacturers to patch it before any serious damage is done."

Hmmm... What kind of damage? The kind where someone could use it to unlock a bootloader?

It's curious that this exploit is under wraps.. I can imagine someone with this knowledge could unlock a bootloader.. Rosenberg unlocked the moto x on stage.. What's to say it wouldn't work on other phones without proving it doesn't?

Has anyone explored and tried this method to see for themselves? Perhaps we could reverse engineer something to hijack important system modules based on what we can glean from that paper.

Just tossing out ideas and hoping something sticks. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
Sorry, I should clarify. I meant that devs and djrbliss said this exploit could not be applied to samsung devices for purposes of unlocking the bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cr6:
[MENTION=4366479]Anthony[/MENTION], obviously people are skeptical due to the fact that you're an unknown developer with an extremely low post count. (that, and your English is really bad) The fact of the matter is, some of the most respected & well known developers have been working on this for quite some time, and suddenly you show up out of the blue with visions of grandeur and promises to solve a problem that has otherwise been unsolvable. Posting a few screenshots and an icon that say "Permaroot" can easily be accomplished in about 30 seconds by the majority of the users on this forum.

Trust me when I say that I personally hope you succeed. Just take into consideration and understand the situation that surrounds you by trying to look at it from our point of view.

IMHO, The best thing you can do right now is to keep your eye on the prize, and don't fuel the fire by responding to any negativity.

Good luck with testing your final device. I can assure you that if you succeed, you'll be an instant rockstar and you'll be rewarded handsomely for your work.

S5 tap'n
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] npjohnson:
Be mature, people.

GUYS!!! Come on. As a software Developer, I would drop any work on a project if as many people from the target audience were acting like you guys are right now!

If he is trolling, does it hurt you at all? Really? No. In no way does it cause you harm, maybe you're a little let down. So calm down.

On the subject of broken English, one of the best developers I know is very fluent in Spanish, but not so fluent in English, which sometimes creates a language barrier when we talk. Bad English has nothing to do with his coding ability/knowledge of the topic.

I agree though, donations shouldn't be asked for before the product, however, in the case of developers who show that they are making progress, I will donate to their progress, not necessarily just a finished product.

To the guy who was just pain rude, and made comments about his mother. I rebound your own question at you, "How old are you?", any decent adult would come to their own consensus based on given data, and then either support him, not follow his work, or ask questions that are not meant in a rude, or malicious way. Insulting his mother? That's something 5 year olds do, be a mature adult, or leave.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] majortaylor:
How about everyone stops blaming and pointing fingers and starts acting civil. If he is telling the truth then cool but don't straight up call him a liar when you yourselfs have no proof otherwise.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] npjohnson:
I apologized for miss-quoting you, my bad on that one, will re-read next time :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
Nothing wrong with a little advise against throwing all caution to the wind but so far this is still a good thread with an exciting prospect but it does need a good sweeping
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] oka1:
From the Moderator

To all in this thread......... Post on topic, Post respectfully ..........or .............DO NOT POST............. Easy

Anymore Flaming or Trolling will be met with infractions..............

People this is easy ..... Stay on topic and avoid making it personal......... that only gets you in trouble

........Keep it kind ...... Peace ~~~ oka1
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
I have a Verizon S5 and I am probably the most trustable person here. I'll give it a try, but be warned I know some pretty influential people so if you kill my phone you won't hear the end of it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
lol if worried about your phone then i wouldnt volunteer it for testing lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Gonna put an end to this now before the flaming starts up again. This thread is closed for a cool down period of 24 hours.
[MENTION=6259183]anthony2131[/MENTION] if you decide to release anything, PM me and I'll open this back up.

ANY NEW THREADS CREATED ON THIS TOPIC WILL BE KILLED WITH FIRE I'd like to contain the damage to this one thread, and yes, I will be watching new threads and posts made by some in this thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Thread is open.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
So does that mean he released something? [MENTION=3053298]Stryke_the_Orc[/MENTION]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] phobia09:
I'm thinking the 24 hour cool down ended lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
i wish...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cdmills:
I have been checking all day. When I saw the thread was open, I got very very excited for a minute. Oh well, I will keep checking and hoping for the good newd
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] biglil1:
Patently waiting for the release. If it truly works as claimed then it will be well worth the wait.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Craleb:
Having an ATT note edge I REALLY hope this truly works! There's a pretty big bounty to be claimed from att and Verizon note 4/edge
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] scarygood536:
I'll be as hopeful as everyone else, but I'm still skeptical and lack any kind of trust. Guess we will wait and see! A new root method for any Samsung device might help other devices

Sent from my bandaid smelling s-pen
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] httuner:
Hurry up before I end up selling my AT&T Note for a T-mobile one....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Take note folks. This is exactly what you DONT say to any developer, for pretty much any reason.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
This doesn't seem exploitable in practice
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
He did message me on the 20th to test.. he said tomorrow (21st) hed get me a test apk after i sign an agreement not to release it and just to confirm it works which I of course agreed to but I have yet to hear anything and its now the 22nd. I did message him to see if hes still wanting me to test or not so well see...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
This ^
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
And people wonder why there's no interest in root for these devices...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Yes, because the possibility of an apk being malware is insanely low.

Hey, you jump on that grenade first. If you're afraid it's not a dud just go ahead and wait for everyone else to die first.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
Omg! Here we go again! No disrespect, just Shut up please!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
agreed! and lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
Progress Update

There is a reason I have said the release date is or would be christmas eve to in fact finish testing all devices I could. I have completed testing but allowing some grace period. I asked those who were interested to be patient and respectful. I am waiting on a call from the last dev to complete writing. And design. So far it has been flawless.

Any dev that has made something of their own, will tell you that it does in fact take time. But I also understand that they also release test to public. I wanted no fault or risk of messing up others phones. Before I started figuring out how all this worked I bricked a phone and freaked out. Now it becomes worse and i hear of other peoples phones never working again. I want klnobody sitting in that spot.

For those who ask exactly who I am. Well this forum allows no personal info. Except job: 19k Tanker U.S Army. Two children and an ex wife. I think thats all Im allowed to say. So there ya go now you kinda know me. And yes, english is something i wasnt good at in school lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
Thank you for the update!

I can represent all the samsung users here to say thank you once more. We have been locked down pretty tight, and you are our only hope now. Please understand why some people are angry or annoyed; it is simply because there hasn't been solid evidence of any unlock. Once you release it, I am sure you will get many apology letters as well as donations ;). We cannot wait until you release it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lamarwallace:
Will this root method work for the at&t note edge
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] amaury48:
I may be nieve, but I would rather take back something I may have said that was positive rather than regretting saying something that was negative and unfounded. With that being said, one, I want to thank you for your service to our country, and two, thank you for your effort in this endeavor.....