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[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
did you considered HEAT????

You run test by test, but thermal driver cut all down! GPU + CPU

so first you had good result and that it the true value.

when we test high heat 3d app, we are at 450Mhz most of the time, as we cant have 533 or 650 with the same heat, it's not possible.

but in some moments when heat reduces you can see with cooltool + gpu freq cur_freq value, that freq is maxed, then go to 450 again.

you cant do what you did. you need to turn the phone screen OFF and let it cool 5min. then try next test.

this is BIG mistake of users that think all result should be the same even if run it 20 times in a row.

WRONG!
[G2 Android Development] Trident:
I know this isn't super helpful, but I just wanted to say thanks. I was using 8.5 for a few days, drama free and had my first SOD on Saturday morning. Wasn't in a place to run a log or post, so when I got home that night, I found that 8.6 was up- so I loaded that puppy up and has been running perfectly since.

Thanks again for all the hard work and great updates.
[G2 Android Development] rebar71:
I understand your frustration with some users. But for the record, YES, I did consider heat. I let the device cool down fully between tests. These tests were over the course of a few hours, not all in the span of a single hour.

I am also in the technical field - a 20 year network engineer career that included 3 years of software QA testing. I understand these concepts.

Sent from my LG-D801
[G2 Android Development] doomsdaybg:
GPU OC, that is amazing Dori, great work and great kernel :)

Thank you!
[G2 Android Development] afrizal87:
anyone help me please,actually this kernel is pretty badass but one thing that i can't use as dialy drive is i can't connect my device to comptr even the drivers is installed properly,its only happening when i insatll this kernel,anyone know how to fix it?
[G2 Android Development] Tinchoska:
No such a problem here, every version I am allow to connect to pc ...
[G2 Android Development] Toledo_JAB:
sorry for the interruption but this thread was reported for the "heated discussions" that happened.

I will just say that cooler heads need to prevail.

I read the posts and have subscribed to this thread.

Please be good, lots of good work being done here.

~JAB
[G2 Android Development] rebar71:
So i just ran a couple more 3D Mark tests on 8.6.2 beta. Here are the results.

My kernel settings are as follows:

Default profile. All cores at 2.57Ghz with Alucard governor. Alucard hotplug. I upped the thermal threshold to 78c. The higher score is with GPU OC 100-650Mhz. The lower is stock GPU 200-450Mhz.

The overall score difference is negligible. But the 2 key areas where there is small improvement are possibly significant for gaming.

EDIT: I don't know if it was the time between tests that allowed for the consistency or upping the thermal threshold a few degrees. In my previous tests that were all over the map, I had about 10 minutes between those tests and ensured the phone was cool before each. These 2 tests were about 30 minutes apart.

Sent from my LG-D801
[G2 Android Development] f4vr:
Reverted back to 8.5 because of battery drain when in use.
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
To all the intruders, that spam this thread, you know who you are, make me a favor, leave and dont come back till you learn to read/search/write debug posts.

All the rest is Junk that should not be here.

I will start reporting each post that offensive no matter from who.

And ask to block access.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 Android Development] gozzaa:
I raised my screen off freq to 1.5ghz and got a sod this morning. Ill try to raise it to 1.7ghz and see if it occurs again
[G2 Android Development] d_Schizzo:
Thanks for Reporting back. Maybe its not the final solution. But its an Observation i made. Personally, i raised my suspend freq to 1.5ghz and didnt have an SOD since then. Im curious if 1.7ghz will be stable for you.

But maybe it would be clever to see if default (max allowed) is stable and then lower freq one by one. If you still have SOD on default the cause might be another than that.
[G2 Android Development] bloof:
You can keep your phone in the fridge (sometimes i flash a ROM in the fridge for safety). If you're not trying to compare to other machines this can help reduce time between runs and take out some of the elements of heat.

It will not be representative of running the machine in normal conditions but can be used for comparative analysis.

Just an idea.
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
i use 1.7ghz not lower.

and never had any sods at morning, i expect it every morning, but! nope!

all good :)
[G2 Android Development] pjadec:
This morning sod with default settings. Kernel 8.6 and rom Cloudy3G 2.0 and phone D802. SuperSU 2.16 flashed with rom.
[G2 Android Development] iko11:
I have ran couple 3DMark tests. It mostly ran at 320MHz i didn't understand why, phone wasn't hot and of course i have waited couple minutes between test. During the test i saw frequency raised up to 533MHz, yes we have overvlocked GPU anymore ? But no chance to 650MHz, monitored with CoolTool. And phone couldn't handle the Physics test. Low score, i think there is a real effect of using Stock rom instead of Ports. Thanks for your work again dori, i am happy we both passed exams :D (MicroEconomy makes me nervous!)

Sent from LG-D802 Cloudy G3 2.0+Dorimanx 8.6
[G2 Android Development] Praxbe:
[MENTION=2376110]dorimanx[/MENTION]

Flashed 8.6 since released and no SOD, no Freeze, no Lags, no battery drain, nothing wrong all is just perfect !

Thx for your hard work :D
[G2 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
Dorimanx it may be a silly/noob question.

Did you change anything in WiFi settings from 8.4 -> 8.5 and afterwards?

I get extreme drain on deep sleep when WiFi is on. 3-4% per hour. If I switch it off and leave mobile data I get 1% every 3-4 hours. That is happening with 8.5 and 8.6. Did not have it with 8.4.

Of course I don't ask or writing this to critisise your work. I am a fan of your work and I'll keep using your builds cause I find them superb. To say thank you is the least I can do.

I just asked if there is some setting I could change? Beside the obvious one of going back to 8.4 that worked great for me.

Keep up this magnificent work...
[G2 Android Development] eliyahut:
Same thing..sod with CloudyG3 2.0 and supersu 2.16 with default settings..

First time i got sod..

Dorimanx i think that something make sod in same day for some people..

It happend in older versions when i got sod and then i come to this thared and see more peole had sod in same day..

Maybe it something online that make this sod for people in same days..
[G2 Android Development] d_Schizzo:
Yes, its the so-called "SOD-Timer". It is always active if Dorimanx is bored and needs something to do....:p

Sorry for OT, but i couldnt resist...
[G2 Android Development] joeynox:
I'm on 8.5 supersu 2.16 att d800 and my screen won't turn back on in the mornings. I have to hard reset every morning . I tried it with WiFi on, cellular on, and then once on airplane mode and it still did it. Only when screen is off for like 6 hours or so.
[G2 Android Development] x3m.zone:
Android 5.0 Lollipop coming to LG G3 & G2

Great news from LG Electronics Deutschland:

" We would like to inform you that there is a upgrade to be released on Android 5.0 for the LG G3 in the fourth quarter of 2014. The upgrade package for the LG G2 will follow. "
[G2 Android Development] d_Schizzo:
Hmm, i am not sure that this are good news. Did you read the post of chainfire that android 5 will be hard to root to unrootable?!
[G2 Android Development] fhk:
Link to this post?

https://plus.google.com/app/basic/stream/z13fjtr4voemxt4ph04cjl1aoor5ezninhc
[G2 Android Development] vPro97:
Well, root access has to come from the kernel, so yeah, we're ****ed unless our bootloader becomes unlockable or Chainfire finds a way to bypass the security in Android L.

On a side note, I've been running BETA 8.6.2 on OptimusG3 without any issues at all. It's fast and stable!
[G2 Android Development] infected85:
Although this is great news these posts don't belong here...
[G2 Android Development] x3m.zone:
Devices with locked bootloaders become unrootable, as you can’t change the kernel.

This is the only real challenge.
[G2 Android Development] levizx:
The latest GPU mod commits are broken.

echo 320000000 > /sys/devices/fdb00000.qcom,kgsl-3d0/kgsl/kgsl-3d0/max_gpuclk

results in actual 450MHz, 389000000=533MHz and so on.
[G2 Android Development] bender_007:
Gpu core oc is working fine i think. Just select gpu performance gov. 18000+ on 3dmark
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
well done on exam pass! :)

About bench, maybe something was running on background. and it's really mess the test.

also in 3dmark there are 3 mods to test.

1) with normal stress, there we can see max freq on gpu and we get MAX score.

2) extreme test, is more hard on CPU and GPU there we stay on 450mhz max most of the time, but it's can jump to 650 for seconds when temp is shifting lower.

3) the ultimate test, it's for

CPU

not

GPU

, as GPU stay at low freq most of the time. as image is 2D. my GPU is 100~320mhz during that test.

so it's useless for testing GPU.
[G2 Android Development] carlos67:
Been using performance GPU governor for months now and it has had no real negative impact on battery life whatsoever. This is because the GPU is only ramped to max only when touching the screen. Any other time and it settles immediately back to 27Mhz.

This setup allows me beautifully smooth ui at almost zero cost to battery life. Now with version 8.6.2 I have GPU set to 533mhz and the ui responsiveness is completely flawless. Smoother than any iphone.

Try it guys, you'll be surprised. Btw, in developer options I enable "force GPU rendering".

Great work Dori, never any problems like others report.
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
wifi driver is changed in 8.5

but it's reserve power, not draining it, as new suspend code added.

i dont see any drain.

Any one else that see WIFI draining more power on suspend?

if you have some app as Facebook open in background that can make WIFI work to sync the app, and use more power.

logic is simple, if there is data traffic via network via WIFI, battery is drained.

no useless data transfers, less battery drained.
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
this interface is dynamic, and should not be used. it's working as should.

freq is actually control thermal level, not the freq.

to control min max use:

/sys/devices/fdb00000.qcom,kgsl-3d0/devfreq/fdb00000.qcom,kgsl-3d0/max_freq

/sys/devices/fdb00000.qcom,kgsl-3d0/devfreq/fdb00000.qcom,kgsl-3d0/min_freq

if you dont know something, first ASK, and dont post panic buttons.
[G2 Android Development] markus4000:
I use 100MHz as max as well as min GPU freq and I don't see any slowdown in casual games or app ui. The GPU in our phone is a beast!

BTW: Had no SOD after the initial one with 8.6. I flashed 8.6.2 right after release and had no SOD until now. Very strange behavior but it kind of fixed itself after the first SOD.
[G2 Android Development] Yoyo117:
Just had alucard gov/hotplug stuck. Only 1 core with may 1.x GHz. Worked again after re applying settings in stweaks. Will attach log later (or if someone tells me why tapatalk only allows picture uploads)

Edit: here's the log https://docs.google.com/file/d/0BzYNRHEwQzVtVW95WWVnUkthRFU/edit?usp=docslist_api

Sent from my dori- & pendroz powered G2 D802.
[G2 Android Development] bender_007:
This is a nice "benchmark", not such usual as antutu or 3dmark. It measures real situation score, user interface etc. Sorry for bashin the thread with scores(but these are important - ui smoothness, gallery scroll, webview scrolling etc.)
[G2 Android Development] iko11:
I like to report again, I have ran Ice Storm Unlimited only because there was note in the others this is too light for your device :laugh: So ı ignored them but i shouldn't. Ran Ice Storm Extreme now frequency can rise to 650-533MHz but mostly 450MHz of course. No problem, no freeze, no restart. It's working without issues, great work !
[G2 Android Development] ibrakadabrax87:
GPU rendering and overlay GPU?...and the rest of settings (governor,hotplug,ecc) for smoothness?:D
[G2 Android Development] Tinchoska:
I have this problem on 8.6, I don't know if on latest beta you do something about that or just gpu but it's less than 8.6, but still more drain than before...
[G2 Android Development] EniGmA1987:
I just flashed the 8.6.2 beta and ran 3DMark. is this good?

Device is fully stable and I have not found any issues on this beta version so far. I will continue to test and tweak.
[G2 Android Development] nighthawk1991:
Ondemand 2.5Ghz

Msm Adreno HotPlug

533Mhz Gpu

CFQ I/O

Dori I have the latest SU and had a SOD, then when I rebooted a window pop up tell me that binaries need to be updated, I ran SU then no problem at all... Extrange :S

Edit: I have beta 8.6.2 :p
[G2 Android Development] hasenbein1966:
Aaaaand... there you fell for a placebo effect! Bam!

Please inform yourself about what "force GPU rendering" really does and doesn't... you'll be surprised...

This forum somehow has a strong esoteric undercurrent! :silly:
[G2 Android Development] carlos67:
Excuse me, but where exactly did I claim that having force GPU rendering enabled improved performance???

I was merely pointing out that I have it enabled. However, I consistently find scrolling within apps like Titanium or Contacts app is noticeably smoother with it enabled.
[G2 Android Development] hasenbein1966:
There you claim it :laugh::cyclops::D
[G2 Android Development] philipp900:
@dorimanx

Did you take a look at my log?

Can you give me some advice what i could change or test?
[G2 Android Development] EniGmA1987:
Where is your evidence that this doesn't do anything or is somehow harmful? For all your ranting about how there are too many people who dont understand things I still do not see you trying to put any useful info here on the subject.
[G2 Android Development] luv2increase:
It is best to have force GPU rendering enabled
[G2 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
Well I had the same setup(if you exclude app updates) with 8.4, 8.5 and 8.6.

I have greenify(donate) with xposed and unbounce.

I'll make extra tests and monitor the bahaviour via bbs. But till now there ara no kernel, partial wakelocks or alarms and services. Just this drain.

Hopefully I'll find out which app causes it or I'll revert back to 8.4.

Nevertheless thank you very much for your answer and support.
[G2 Android Development] gozzaa:
i tried to get a logcat last time i had a sod. for my shame i had logcat disabled... its enabled now and iam waiting for the next sod :) lol

little tutorial:

get adb tools -> http://www.mediafire.com/?kovh575e97hu910

1. open cmd.exe as admin (on windows) and type "adb devices"

your phone id should be there, make sure you installed the drivers for your phone

2. adb logcat -d > logcat.txt

this saves a txt file in the same folder where adb.exe is saved.

3. try to get some informations regarding the sod

good luck :)
[G2 Android Development] bloof:
I had massive battery drain when updated to 8.6.2

also had xposed, tasker, unbounce. I disabled both tasker (i don't use it anyway, just had 4 tasks) and unbounce.

Installed 8.6, went back to ok.

Recovery then wipe dalvik+cache then delete .dori and .synapse then flashed 8.6.2

Now it seems ok.
[G2 Android Development] natalya:
Huh? Why so angry you just pwnd yourself. Please try not to rant that much or at least lower your tone.

Force enabling gpu rendering fyi does make a difference: it puts less strain on cpu and lets the gpu work a bit more when for example scrolling. As a result it may have an effect on battery but who knows how big.

So no, it is definetly not a placebo effect. And just for the record, force enabling gpu rendering is mostly discussed in relation to scrolling. You didnt have to try to mock or make fun of the other guy. Just say whats on your mind thats all but show some respect.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 Android Development] rootlinux:
I am on 8.6 running all Alucard and not a single issue or SOD.

LS980
[G2 Android Development] luv2increase:
Looking forward to 8.7 being able to OC the GPU
[G2 Android Development] carlos67:
Why wait till 8.7? You can OC it now with the beta like me ;)
[G2 Android Development] luv2increase:
I have the vs980 variant.
[G2 Android Development] 60nine:
i didn't notice any inproovement or difference with gpu rendering on/off... neither on g2 and on my old tegra2 based device...

turning that setting on may really work though, but the difference is unnoticeable on an already snappy device (just my 2 cents)
[G2 Android Development] EniGmA1987:
I am having great battery life so far today with the 8.6.2 beta with my tweaked setup. Similar to how I always set it up, but even less CPU speed and GPU at 650 with faster ramp up. Smoothness during usage seems a little better than it used to be moving through apps and battery life is also a little better so far, but still too early to tell for sure with just 1 day or usage.
[G2 Android Development] Kappa Lamda:
Thanks but without unbounce I have lots and lots of partial wakelocks that drain my battery. Especially Google services ones....
[G2 Android Development] whatnow275:
HELP! No kernel support

So I unselected the "apply on boot" setting, and then my phone powered down about 30 minutes later. When I charged it up again, STweaks said "sorry, no kernel support." I reflashed twice and same error.

I'm using dorimanx 8.6 on the VS980. Thanks
[G2 Android Development] luv2increase:
Did you try uninstalling stweaks and synapse and deleting the .dori and .synapse folders? Do that, then boot into recovery and flash again and wipe cache and data. I bet it will work.
[G2 Android Development] merlin21:
No kernel error! Wait at least a few minutes after boot before opening stweaks like mentioned very often. And please ask further questions in QA.
[G2 Android Development] bloof:
This is getting into Q&A so i replied in Q&A thread. Check there.
[G2 Android Development] masteril:
What is better to use in gpu hotplug when oc?simple ondemand or msm?smoothness+batterylife?
[G2 Android Development] EniGmA1987:
I use Alucard for everything and MSM for the GPU since there is no Alucard for that. I have a bunch of other tweaks too, but here is what I am getting on the 8.6.2 beta. It is really great so far! Loving that it can maintain pretty good levels of smoothness while being the best yet on battery life:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2991478&stc=1&d=1414677666

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2991479&stc=1&d=1414677666
[G2 Android Development] b4mb1_:
Found it.
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
To all BETA TESTERS.

New BETA D802 8.6.3 uploaded to storage!

*Fixed old bug with BT code for suspend, it's may be our ninja BUG that brake ROM/Kernel over long time in suspend.

*Updated SLIMBUS (HDMI driver) from latest android 5 :)

*Fixed msm adreno tz GPU gov, was stuck on low freq with medium load.

*Fixed BUG in fast charge driver thermal mitigation update on suspend, that can lead to SOD!

*Merged updates for sound driver suspend fixes + noise reduction when recording/speaking using headset + mic.

*Added new hack to reduce filesystem sync on suspend to reduce power drain.

*Reduced MIN brightness set to 3 was 5 in kernel! so we can go real dark now :)

have fun and report.

for other modes i will upload later.
[G2 Android Development] hasenbein1966:
Dorimanx, thousand thanks for your work! But could you please explain why you always react with "Nah, not kernel related! Stop that!" when someone reports a SOD, but rather often write that the new kernel has a fix for a possibly SOD-inducing bug??
[G2 Android Development] Mystique:
[MENTION=2376110]dorimanx[/MENTION]

Thank you for your work..

You can blame the ROM or the user or anything anytime.

Thank you for what you do.
[G2 Android Development] wadamean:
Not always is it a kernel problem at all because this kernel is meant for stock roms and not any ported ones like paradus (flex roms) or any of the two g3 roms out there. He has made this kernel so advanced with 8.6 and 8.5 that eliminated over 70 percent of sods. Right now it's as stable as can be and will get more and more until its 100 percent stable. If you experience sod then just provide log or just completely use another kernel. Many options out there!
[G2 Android Development] d_Schizzo:
Nope, you are not right. There are no real options besides dorimanx kernel!:p:D

Dorimanx rules!

But for the rest you are absolutly right. As i said few posts ago, sods can also come from the settings someone is using. So, first rule should be to change the settings to default if someone running into sods. And if you doesnt have an sod with default, well, then you should rethink about the settings you are using before.
[G2 Android Development] Yoyo117:
8.6.3 immediate hotboot after flashing. trying to get back into the system now or re-flash older version from recovery...will see

edit: got into the system. runs now, didn't touch stweaks yet, apart from grabbing a log.
[G2 Android Development] wadamean:
Yeah that too can prevent sods in setting settings to default mode
[G2 Android Development] vPro97:
Well, sometimes you discover something new and say "hmm, it doesn't really affect me, but IT COULD be that, that's causing issues for others". He isnt denying the SODS, just saying that they're more likely to be caused by ROM than his kernel.
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
I look for bugs that can be the problem, in logs i get, there is no info to find them. This why i say, not kernel, but i am always seeking for new possible bug makers...

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 Android Development] dorimanx:
Ahhh... no such problem, sorry.

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 Android Development] goran_oh:
On 8.6.3 all ok for now

Send from my Nexus 5 using Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] luv2increase:
Is there anything one can do to OC the GPU on 8.6? Or, is it dependent on the kernel only
[G2 Android Development] wadamean:
You would have to get beta version of 8.6 to get over clock
[G2 Android Development] cybernetus:
Here too

8.6.2 and 8.6.3 are good
[G2 Android Development] Alexander1988:
Flashed 8.6.3 2-3 hours ago with no probs so far. Changed the govs & hotplug to Alucard. Charged it a little bit and I have nothing to report other than the fact that this is pure genius written in English code by a Russian living in Israel for a device made in South Korea and owned by too many people around this small planet, so yeah, keeping everyone happy might be a little hard to achieve. But keep this in mind everyone, if you don't help the Dev, you don't help yourself ! Peace out everyone !
[G2 Android Development] Bellitsch89:
8.5 rocks man many thanks. Tomorrow I will test 8.6 :thumbup:

Sent from my LG G2 32GB rooted
[G2 Android Development] UnknownUs3r:
I have one issue with wifi, every time i am on wifi everything is ok but when i leave connection range of that hotspot and i return back to range my wifi doesn't connect and in wifi settings that wifi hotspot is "not in range" wich is not true as I am standing next to it.

Second issue is when i get back to range of wifi my icon is in constant "turning on" state and i can't turn it of or on so in both cases only option is to reboot then all works fine till i leave wifi range and everything starts from begening, i did few clean ROM installs and diferent roms everytime issue persists. Is there any solution?

I am on Pardus 7.7 and 8.6 kernel, issue is there whatever kernel i use anyway :confused:
[G2 Android Development] luv2increase:
Wonder why vs980 don't get any beta love.
[G2 Android Development] jeebspawnshop:
Go wonder about it in the Q&A thread.
[G2 Android Development] berryman13:
Dorimanx doesn't own that device I'm assuming. 802 is the beta device sadly, as I am vocally asking for D800 buids to provide logs..

may compile it myself if i have the time
[G2 Android Development] mav744:
got a sod this morning, not on charger, pulled out the phone out of my pocket to check the time, 5 minutes before no problems.

stock 20D D802 with newest beta, default profile