yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
you have another dev writing and designing it? or for a specific device? I am still waiting for you to reply to my message lol. but reading your post I assume you found a tester for vzw s5? my offer to help still stands!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
World peace
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpfulton248:
Right, not my question though. My question is, has anyone ever charged for root? (not just asked for donations). And actually I have a Verizon Note 4 which does not yet have a root method.

Also, I hate that when I got notifications on my phone i see "[BOUNTY] New Root Method Exploit - ACHIEVED!!!!!"
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Believe I saw an .apk for a specific type of phone to get root a while back. but from here? dunno.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
OK guys, thread is open again. Now let me weigh in on what I read, and removed.

First, Donations are NOT required, and anyone asking for donations before release will be infracted. This is against forum rules, and it's unethical.

Second, the malware issue. EVERY root method a form of malware. As with anything you do with your device, there is risk. That being said, any reports of unsavory practice in this release and it'll be taken down and verified.

The negativity and arguing over the legitimacy of these claims will not be tolerated. The claims have piqued interest of some very knowledgeable people, so we'll know know very quickly what truths there are to be had here. Especially the bootloader unlock.

Now let's keep it on point and civil, and wait to see what comes.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sherdog16:
Orc ftw
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] donc113:
Anthony....I do not know you, I do not have any information on you...but reading your messages and seeing your "screenshots," having an MOS of 19k Tanker is an entry level MOS and your English "sounds" like Korean or Chinese syntax.

Just saying.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] outlaw420:
This is going to a interesting twist when it happens and didn't they laugh at Columbus when he said the world was not flat so more power to him when the app is released. And by the way remember the note 3 is soon to become like the Droid charge a phone of the past. Thank you and have a Mery Christmas
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpfulton248:
Many scholars before Columbus believed the earth was flat including Magellan. By Columbus' time I think it was widely accepted as fact. I think the ancient Egyptians even had a hunch. None of them found a permanent root method.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Gentlemen, I refer you to my previous post. Speculation is unnecessary, though I understand the skepticism. Let's just see how this plays out. If necessary I will lock this out until he is ready for release, not something I'm wanting to do, but nothing productive is coming from the chatter in here at the moment.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Is the release date still set to be Christmas eve or has it been pushed back?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thebestiam:
Release on Christmas Eve??? Let's just hope ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
Yeah, so today is the big day. I'm anxious to see what happens.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Afro Samurai:
I'm hoping he pulls this off. As a Note 3 owner I'm pulling for him. For the most part everyone bailed on the phone and maybe this revives it. Trying to be optimistic.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cdmills:
Anticipation is killing me. I feel like a little kid waiting for Christmas to come so I can see what's under the tree. Lol. I for one am pulling for success. Seems like at&t and verizon devices really need this so there will be renewed interest in developing and themeing. Without unlocked bootloader, I think the devs have gone just about as far as they can go.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
Yeah, I wasn't trying to jump the gun and be too impatient, but it's after 12 here now and still no word from him. Trying to be optimistic, but it's just too weird. If I had root, I'd want to release it ASAP or at least someone well known test it and confirm that it's real.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Rakuu:
Its like waiting for towelroot but theres not a bunch of us freaking out in an irc channel lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tw1n5nak35:
Alot have left the note 3, since the update to NJ6. Hopefully this will bring some of them back, and possibly for users on note 4, finally might have a root exploit. :D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] King p1n:
Sony?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bobbarker2:
I guess wishful thinking is getting the better of people's common sense. A universal bootloader AND root method that is unpatchable and permanent is literally impossible. Of course it would be cool, but come on use your head. A "universal" root method is believable if it found an exploit in the kernel since that's shared across all android devices (though of course versions vary) but a universal bootloader exploit could never exist because every manufacturer is different. Not to mention he says it will survive any OTA. Like... what!? There's no way to make an exploit that can't be patched, the engineers at Sony/Samsung/HTC/etc will disassemble the apk to see what it's doing and figure out how to patch the exploit real quick then push it out OTA.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tw1n5nak35:
This is my 2 cents:I don't see that happening. Even though a lot of users have left to go to another device: Nexus 6, Note 4 or Note Edge. There are plenty of Juggernaut3 users left. Everyone said the same thing about the S3. That after the S4 and S5 come out, that it will be a phone of yesterday. Yet BeansTown Dropped AllianceRom update last week or a few days ago. Sorry for a little off topic, but CleanRom2.0, HyperDrive Rls9 Beta, JasmineRom 2.4.4 and Eclipse 2.1 was just recently updated for VZW Juggernaut3. So I think the Juggernaut 3, will not be just a phone of the past, anytime soon.

Back on topic:

Alot of usershave been looking for the new root exploit, especially Note 3 users on NJ6 and note 4 users. Maybe if it all works out, that this new exploit could work with Verizon version of the note edge? I wanted to thank Anthony for his Service. I'm a 11B/63S/63B myself that served 8 years. Hoo-ah!!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
Yeah, slowly starting to lose hope.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bobbarker2:
I know wishful thinking can be powerful but I can't understand how so many people got so hopeful for something that claims so many impossibilities. I want it to be true as well but I know it can't be, unless he's Jesus and can wave his hands and turn water into wine.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alsgarage:
Hahaha, on his Google+ page he says the mods guaranteed him the bounty. Yikes.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thebestiam:
Too good to be true???
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alsgarage:
Definitely. Would be nice to get some aosp though on my note 3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] King p1n:
Of course[emoji23]

But there's no harm in seeing how far he'll go
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
I want to see if this works on a Verizon S3

I'm already unlocked, but people who took the OTAs might appreciate the ability to flash CM again

The big problem at the moment with the unlocked S3 is that people are running frankenstein combinations of firmware to keep it unlocked

Some parts of the boot chain are so old that they can't boot 4.4.2 Touchwiz

I'm guessing at best this would be a universal Loki/Bump or other type of enhanced Safestrap for the devices that still need it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
As a mod, I can guarantee no mod made such a guarantee to him. Please link me to his gplus

If [MENTION=6259183]anthony2131[/MENTION] wants a mod to verify, i have the device in question sitting right here, and a long history on this subject.

With that note, i advice no one to send money or devices to devs for "future" developments, wait until proof is at hand.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
https://plus.google.com/u/0/108502615453921150091/posts
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Kris Nelson:
Bottom of this post

https://plus.google.com/108502615453921150091/posts/7uufEP133vr
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
No one from the mod team for this forum has signed or otherwise made any guarantees to the best of my knowledge.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
Thanks for the clarification!

On a brighter note, if he does release something today, there's only 9 hours left to do it :).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Hashbang173:
Doesn't this depend on timzone?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pizza_pablo:
Yup. Eleven, on the west coast. Thirteen in Hawaii. :p
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
It should've happened at least 5 hours ago if he was in China xD
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JimmyJunk:
One look at this guys g+ account and the 'screenshots' he posted would have told you everything you needed to know about the possibility of this being real. Let alone the outlandish claims themselves.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thebestiam:
js, Waiting Patiently :p
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpfulton248:
He is in CST I think.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kemerystudios:
Please. Please be true. I beg. I just beg for the truth. If not, this is a horrible distrust and ridiculous, pointless attempt to steal money to people who just want to take the full advantage of the device they purchased. But with every aching bone in my body, I want an APK that I install, and get me my sweet unlocks. Thanks a billion times from the entire community on my behalf, if this is true. Please, just be true.

As always,

Happy Modding :)

---------- Post added at 10:07 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:58 PM ----------

And yes people have. Respectively, the Sunshine group on the HTC One M8 Dev team does charge 25 $$$ for their method. They feel they are justified, and I do too. Not the price point. But some devs don't get the proper respect they deserve when they create a tool on this magnitude. To counter my last statement, I say that people should and do donate. Me included. So a premium root better be worth it, and as long as it is "aggressively" priced, I feel he could and can be justified. Nonetheless we all prefer a free option as do I. So I would respect it both ways. Hope it clears that up for you and as always,

Happy Modding :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Will this root my iPhone 3g?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] alsgarage:
Yes
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
It should.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JimmyJunk:
It will root your tv and refrigerator as well!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Will I be able to flash custom roms to my washing machine? It's a Samsung. Maybe some custom noises for when the laundry is finished.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thanitos:
Yeah just make sure you don't force push the root package for the whirlpool or else you'll wind up with an expensive dryer.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Orito:
I would have been more impressed with his screenshots if they were photos from another device - and if it showed SuperSU actually running, and not just installed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raymondlikesroot:
I wonder why there is a Photoshop app ;).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thanitos:
Yeah, you can just download and install superuser from the app store doesn't run obviously
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
This whole hysteria has been unnecessary. An exploit description or whitepaper would've avoided almost all of it.

The timing would suggest the recent Qualcomm TrustZone exploit, but as others have stated, it doesn't look usable in practice.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I don't believe the recent QC tz vuln is actually exploitable
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thanitos:
I see Kris is watching his g+ for an update, lol I won't hold my breath
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mlin:
FWIW, the bootloader unlock could only apply to non-encrypted bootloaders where a simple fastboot command is used to unlock the bootloader. It would be worthless for encrypted bootloaders like Samsung devices on Verizon/AT&T but could be useful as an all in one tool for non-encrypted bootloaders like Samsung devices on Sprint/T-Mobile. Just a thought, it's my best guess as to how the bootloader unlock option could be feasible.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
Jcase, if that's the case, I can't even begin to wrap my head around how this is supposed to work and meet all of the criteria that the dev purports of the unlock

Step 1: New kernel exploit for root (believable)

Step 2: Write something crazy and permanent to Secure Boot (not believable)

Step 3: Reboot

Step 4: Magic!

Do we have any info on the dev's programming skills or computer science background?

mlin, I don't think Samsung devices other than the Galaxy Nexus support fastboot to begin with.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JimmyJunk:
On his g+ page, a couple posts down, he asks if davlik will work with lolipop, so I'm gonna his dev skills are lacking...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thanitos:
I've Googled around a bit to find some information about him, all I've really found is his profile pick on g+, you may notice says "kansas city mix whiteboii" So there's at least a time zone to look at
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Kris Nelson:
Yes and later in that thread says he'll have it working in a week.. Lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Do we need to?

How many other developers come here and release roms that you guys gobble up? I know of at least 17 that released a working ROM within a day or two of registration.

The question you should be asking is "Are the risks of using this application worth the potential pitfalls?"

Standard warnings apply to everything on these forums, if you're worried or don't trust it, don't use it. Your device, your risks, your decision, your responsibility.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
lol hopefully he chimes in soon.. the wolves are hungry ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
My concern is the lack of a CV

Most new developers already have a github or published works to stand on
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] JimmyJunk:
I'm honestly shocked so many of you are still holding out hope.

There's so little evidence that this has any chance of being legit.

Not trying to be negative, but it's fairly obvious.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ian3d:
RIP to his inbox if this is a hoax.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pizza_pablo:
This is like a nerdy soap opera.

Way better than the other guy soap opera, WWE.

:D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
For someone who wished to stay moderately anonymous, he didn't hide his information very well. This is a good lesson to people who wish not to be named, don't link your accounts.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I deleted a bunch of posts, we are not going to stalk harass or dox [MENTION=6259183]anthony2131[/MENTION]

If it is real, then yall will get it.

If it is fake, then I'll deal with it, or another mod with a bigger hammer.

Don't send money or devices to anyone for this, just sit tight.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PHiiLiZz:
Good, someone just need shut up and be patient... Lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thanitos:
Well that escalated quickly
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpfulton248:
I appreciate that you threw in the Samsung hashtag.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kemerystudios:
An hour left boys... Let's prepare our Christmas Trees and Menorahs, because Santa is coming tonight :) I dearly hope at least...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
I'm waiting until 1 AM
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thebestiam:
Still 8 here. 4 more hours! 1! !!

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I337
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Well gentlemen, merry Christmas. Enjoy yourselves.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] amaury48:
And the clock strikes 12 on the east coast..... if it's out, I can't find it......... Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to everyone ....... ho, ho ,ho... :fingers-crossed:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] holywhitebread:
I knew we couldn't trust a guy that spelled boy, "boii".
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
The boii who cried "perma-root"
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mlin:
I only mentioned it as an illustrative example.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Cdmills:
I figured I would check out this thread one more time before going to sleep. I was hoping to at least see he had written something one way or the other by now. Oh well time to sleep. Maybe tomorrow, maybe not.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] newmanx4:
Well, if he just wanted attention he sure got it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
I'm sure he feels important now that he knows how to lie, takes real skill you know.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
Jingle bells, shotgun shells, Santa Clause is dead!

Hohoho merry old soul!

I'm as happy today as yesterday with a splash of whiskey... Okay fine, several splashes of whiskey.

Take 4 aspirin and All have a Merry Xmas! I won't mention New Years yet till I know I live that long! Lol

You also have a Merry xmas Anthony!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kevinco1:
I'm no expert, but when has a dev unlocked a bootloader by simply creating an APK? My understanding is that most of the work is achieved through the recovery and a found exploit. The only time I've seen an APK used across a wide variety of devices is for rooting only, like Towelroot.

The idea that there would be one method to unlock the bootloader of various models from different carriers and companies like Samsung, HTC, Sony, LG, etc should be laughable to anyone who doesn't even know how to write a line of code.

I just hope there weren't that many people who donated without even having a working product. Just shameful.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
"...when has a dev unlocked a bootloader by simply creating an APK?"

The Galaxy S3 i535 had the EZ-Unlock apk for rooted phones before OTAs permanently locked down the bootloader for people*

* Any firmware ML1 or greater will probably brick if you use it. That should be enough to make sure you don't try it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] leroybrute:
Ahhhhh shut up, and have a Merry Christmas!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Sunshine off does this for the HTC m8. It's an apk that does s-off which allows bootloader unlock.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] beaups:
Actually sunshine does the s-off and unlock at the same time. But there are a few differences between sunshine and this project, namely - sunshine actually exists.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Haha and the fact that all the devs are well known and respected around here.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] anthony2131:
Urgent update

Last night as I get off of work, I get a call. A call saying my son is in the hospital because hes bleeding from the throat. He had tubes put in his ears twice and had his tonsoles taken out within this year. He is currently sitting in front of me getting fed through a tube, so i would appreciate if the negativity was held back until i get out of here and get a chance to upload. I do in fact notice that some who trusted and beleived have now called me a scam. And this thread is full of greedy children who only care about themselves. I hope your christmas is just as amazing as mine siiting here in a hospital with my son.

P.s. to the guy that said i spelt boy wrong. I have two google accounts. The boii, is for me when i upload freestyles and the other is everyday use.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Hey man, your kid is in my prayers. Hope he gets better. Merry Christmas.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] amebiasis:
Best wishes to you man. As a father of two (2 and 4) and my son having tubes in his ear and his tonsels removed as well I know all about it. I'm currently about 2500 miles away from home so I know about not having a good Christmas as also. Thanks for your service and God bless man, hope your son gets well and can enjoy Christmas like kids are supposed to!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bishop0114:
I mean no disrespect here but what do you expect? You offer something up and then seamingly dont follow through... Not just last night but for days. I have been following this and other threads and see many people have offered payment and pledged thousands of dollars for anyone that comes up with this solution... So to say we only care about ourselves and calling us greedy children is no better than those calling you out. If you really have the solution, great. If not, lets get over it and move on. If you have been around, you should know there is a method to releasing this type of thing and many senior devs would be happy to assist and give you all the credit. When you have such an unorthadox aproach, it does make people weary. If things are as you say, i hope the best for you and your son.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] npjohnson:
I sincerely hope your son gets better. I'll pray for him.

Just ignore those who dog on you. Merry Christmas.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eortizr:
I'm making more popcorn to continue to watch this soap opera. Waiting for the next excuse. If he had the time to write such a long excuse. He would had the time to click a button to upload. I feel sorry for all the user with hopes on this guy.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thanitos:
The thread might as well be locked, if he wants to release it in all seriousness, start a new thread for general android development and he can post his own topic. This is all just very convenient
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Kris Nelson:
Totally agree.. All he wants is attention..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pizza_pablo:
Ok, the entertainment value is waning. Now, it's becoming just pathetic.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Afro Samurai:
I'm really not about locking threads but if it wasn't Christmas this thread would be out of control and locked down anyway. May as well at this point.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Fact is, no one is going to believe anything that comes from you. You have already publicly lied, claiming us mods signed a guarantee that you will get the bounty. We have not, we would not. Period.

I truly hope you are lying about your child, given that is a horrible thing to lie about. If you are not, my prayers are with him.

Ok guys, this is the end of the story unless anthony actually wants to post something substantial.

No more flaming, no doxing, no bickering. Don't send money or devices to people that have not actually produced anything publicly.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 06sharpshot:
Very well said. This is exactly how I feel on the matter.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RomsWell:
It is still a bounty thread. Stop feeding the trolls. Everyone's disappointed. Time to go back to waiting on someone to achieve the bounty goals. Pledge and wait.... You All know the drill. A bit childish having a mod to stop in everyday to lock and clean the thread. Theres alot of money being offered in the bounty. No need to ruin a thread type already semi frowned on for just this reason.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Afro Samurai:
I didn't realize that bounty threads needed to stay open until it was achieved. Every device I've owned has had a root or bootloader unlock by the time I got it. I didn't mean to flame or troll when I agreed it should be locked but I know how things can get around here. At this point we'll just have to keep it moving and hopefully something good happens for us by somebody.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] windstrings:
No owes an apology, you didn't comunicate until now.

Trust and respect is EARNED.. No one knows you and your starting off on the wrong foot so far.

You would do the same to question so get off your high horse.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
Well, he's ignored our criticisms and requests for info that would give confidence in his skills and purported solution.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Savagerun:
Im glad this is over. I tagged him as a fraud from early on and my posts to him were removed which is fine. I was just treating him the way he deserved to be treated. I've dealt with his type before and wasn't about to fall for his shenanigans. Merry Christmas everyone!! Let's all move on...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LLStarks:
Hope this is a good Christmas.