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[General Topics] rakh1:
Hi all,

Figured I should start a post with problems (in the quest for solutions).

I have had my v1605 from Vodafon for 3 days now and have found a few problems already. I have a replacement coming on Tue so will see what is fixed...

So far:

- keyboard back lights not working, matters not if the sensor is active or not. Vodafone replacing the unit as a result.

- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.

- screen alignment wanders and as such I usually need to re-align the screen once a day or more. Seems always to drift left and slight lower than I am pressing.

- today screen items are locked and 'vodafoned', very annoying as I cannot show task list, owner info or lock status on the today screen. I hard reset the unit and reset it before the customisation happened and voila - the usual today screen items were back - but as a result I lost the vodafone dialer skin and the 3G symbol. I presume someone can ROM-hack to get rid of this restriction and look forward to it :) In fact, it would be perfect if the ONLY Vodafone customisations were the dialler skin, 3G symbol and theme.

- If you have a password set and hard-reset the unit it crashes when you are prompted for the password. Soft resetting it then skips the vodafone customisation.

- left softkey set to phone instead of calendar and no way to change it.

- no easy way to access Vodafone Live!

- camera quality pretty poor for a 2MP, no where near as good as the K750i for example. However, the K750i on its first firmware was pretty aweful too!

- when plugged into USB on computer - if you turn it off (so as just to charge) it will turn itself back on again shortly and commence another sync.

Other than these niggles, of which the today screen is the biggest for me, I love the TyTN. By far the best PDA/Phone I have owned to date!

So - over to you guys, does your v1605 have these issues or others, or none????

Rich
[General Topics] penyekz:
My slide out keyboard down't click into place on the left side the way the right does (and also the way the wizard does). It may not be a problem now but in the future, it may begin to wear and then it might affect the function of the keys??

Are they just swapping a unit for you or exchanging the whole package? How will you know if you get a brand new set? When I switched mine on, the call timers showed outgoing 40 seconds and incoming 45 seconds. I'm not sure if this is vodafone testing the units or it's not new.
[General Topics] rakh1:
Am told I am getting a brand new unit - will check call timers as they *should* be 0-0.

Just had a play with mine and I only feel a click on the right side of the keyboard too. Feels nice and solid once it is out though - not like the xda-mini-s which feels flimsy in comparison.

R
[General Topics] sabesh:
I do not see the "E" icon even in EDGE enabled areas. I even tried the HTC Wizard icon hack hack with no success:

http://www.htcwizardweb.net/node/191
[General Topics] xda-rocks:
'E' appears on my v1605

3G is awesome.
[General Topics] penyekz:
Thats great! was a bit worried that mine was a faulty unit. It does feel solid when sliding. It was just the lack of the "click" that bugged me.

Anyone else who received their unit had timers showing calls made and received from it? Its probably vodafone testing it. The unit is too new for any refunds/refurbs to have been made.
[General Topics] xxnoelziexx:
- some keys on the far right seem unsensitive - I keep missing O, P and L from my typing. The keys do work though...maybe it is just me.

My unit has this issue and I hope my next unit which is a brand new replacement that comes on Tuesday doesn't have this issue. My unit it is only the O that has problem which is getting better over time. I called them and they was more than happy to get a brand new unit to get sent out just want a perfect working one in my 14 day period so fingers crossed will keep you updated.
[General Topics] penyekz:
Do you also feel a click only on the right when you slide open the keyboard? Let us know how you get on with the new unit.
[General Topics] xxnoelziexx:
Don't feel no click at all. Will keep you all updated.
[General Topics] rakh1:
UPDATE:

New unit turned up - keyboard lights now work as expected.

Still only a right side click on the keybard - so it must just be the way it is.

Today items:

Fix posted here: http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=329204#329204

Hope that helps - Rich
[General Topics] pgamble:
Hi guys

Peter .. the guy that got his VPA Compact III two days after me as sent it back on the 14 day returns .... He was concerned about stability. He's always struggled to come to terms with WM stability which I can understand ... so he's off back to palm and blackberry.

From my point of view - I've had one hang during operations which still worries me (I left it at the today screen fine ... and 30 mins later I noticed backlight was completely off and it was utterly un responsive - wouldn't respond to incoming calls). It also hangs occassionally of soft reset or power on (from a complete power off). It usually comes up fine on a subsequent soft reset.

I'm waiting for HTC to call me back so I can raise this as a call. It seems to happen regardless of today plugins being active (I disabled all) - I have also rebuilt with 4 phases of Sprite Backup to restore from - and the problem hasn't gone away.

I suspect it is firmware / software as opposed to hardware .... fingers crossed.

Aside from that I love it as a device .... I just wish one of you guys that has one will let me know if you have had any hangs at all and where you see them.

My keyboard light works fine. It has to be in low light and you have to press a button before it activates - just opening the keyboard in low light doesn't activate it.

Occasionally I turn the device on and it starts in landscape mode and then switches to portrait ... odd .. because I didn't switch it off in landscape.

There is an odd moulding mark where the stylus comes out on the curved recessed part of the body (right hand side). I thought it may be a crack but I'm pretty sure it's just where the plastic moulding was finished before painting. If it's not cracked I'm not bothered.

You can change the WM5 softkeys with Tweaks2k2.

One thing to remember is that rather than use the phone executable, the device originally used a :MSC call. Once removed you can't put it back with Tweaks2k2. It's not an issue because a normal link to phone is fine. If you want Calendar ... then use Tweaks2k2 to change it.

My keyboard works fine ... no sticky keys. Peter had one or two on his.

Paul.
[General Topics] rakh1:
No hangs here yet.....using it a lot with skype, camera, etc...

Yes - same here...

I've not had this happen...

Same here - but very feint....

Rich
[General Topics] pgamble:
Hi Rich

What are you running at the moment ?

I'm try to find out what is different between my build and yours so I can narrow down possible cause of hang.

Paul.
[General Topics] pgamble:
By the way ... my build is :

So far I have SBSH iLauncher, HandyMenu, HandSwitcher, Legato Mahjong, Billiard Master 3, Bubbleshooter, PDA Mill GameBox Classics, BeJewelled 2, 1-Calc, Phatnotes, PIEPlus, Avantgo, CO2005, Clearvue Office Pro, CPL6, FW2006, imov Messenger, NewsBreak, Resco Explorer (without the Resco Today Plugin) 5.40, Resco PhotoViewer, SBSH Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather, Skype 2, Sprite 5.1, Tweaks2k2, PI2005, FlexMail 2.2, FlexWallet, Cabinstall, Cruxview - all installed on the MicroSD.

Aside from an apparent hang on startup last night which scared me .... I thought I'd need to hard reset but it eventually sorted itself out ... hopefully it is s/w related .... it's all going well. Did a video call with Peter last night which was fine ... first I've done and picture quality not great but usable.

3G is active and working very well. Switches mid call to 2.5g if signal drops to much, but you don't get a chattering issue (i.e. where it regularly switches between the two).

Drove from Hook to Kent with CPL6 and BT GPS yesterday and that was flawless.

Have four phases of Sprite Backup - Different levels of build - so I can decide how far back to go in the event of problems.

Circa 28 mg of program memory following sof reset

Circa 31 mg of storage memory

PB is loading PI Calendar / Tasks / Messaging / Phatnotes / Pocket Weather.
[General Topics] bri.s:
Can someone help me with my wifi problem please. I can get connected to my network ok but IE will not show any pages, it just says wrong settings. I am connected with good signal strengh and thought that i would be able to surf when on my own home network. Most of the time it serches gprs and 3g then shows the error. An idiots step through guide would be helpful. I have searched for hours but came up blank. I also need a walkthrough on how to configue vodafone MMS settings as I cant get that to work either. Customer services isnt much good as the dont really know this device yet. Thanks in advance.
[General Topics] rakh1:
Hey Paul,

I have only the followinig intalled over the base v1605:

skype2

PHM Registry Editor

Microsoft .NET CF 2.0

Aspecto Software WiFiFoFum

Handmark Monopoly

That's it......

Rich
[General Topics] xxnoelziexx:
new unit arrived and the sticking key issue is gone thank god. I hve a few things installed now and the phone is running great. I installed agile messenger beta a few minutes ago as no msn client is in the vodaphone rom and the phone looked like it crashed then a few moments later it signed into msn.

1 thing I have noticed is if I mute the volume so I get a x sign near the volune if I click around I.e start menu and click around the operating system I can hear a clicking noise. could someone else test this 4 me I am currently in a quiet room.

also noticed when using pie with keyboard slid out my view will sometimes change from landscape to portrait view and then back to normal which is strange. I am sure my faulty device did this whilst just using the operating system in general use. shed a bit of light to what I have just found is that I just put the phone down open on the case it comes with and the same thing happened it must have something to do with the magnetic metal in the case effecting the phone causing it to rotate lol well that's what I think.
[General Topics] penyekz:
No clicking sound when I mute mine. Haven't really played around with mine yet. Will install everything once I get my microsd card.

Does your phone's keyboard click into place when you slide it open and is it right side only or both? Also did you check your call timers? Are they zero or has calls been made before receiving it?
[General Topics] klarsen:
Just got my TyTN

and all i got was a lousy keyboard.. :-)

got the bad keys on my unit. Waiting for response from HTC distributor, but they halted all sales of it until resolved. There are a lot of phones with bad keyboard.

But apart from that it seems to work fine - like the Jasjar in a smaller package. :-)

But I liked the keyboard on my I-mate k-jam a lot better.
[General Topics] low405:
My first one had a few keys that weren't great, t, del and spacebar. This one is good for the keyboard. But....my screen is loosing calibration all the time again which is why I was given a replacement. Moves so that it is totaly unusable! Is anyone else experiencing it? If you are not is it a Voadafone one or something else. I've told Vodafone that I'd like another one out of a different batch and they said that they will extend my exchange period for a couple of weeks until some new ones come in. Might call HTC to see if it is a known "feature". Other than that I'm still totally happy with the device and it is much better at memory handling thn the Exec ever was, It never seems to drop below 22mb of program memory after having opened and closed programs for a clouple of days. The exec would have dropped to 17 by the end of the first.

Phil
[General Topics] penyekz:
how have you guys found the stylus? I find it quite hard to slot it into the phone. almost as if it was too big for the hole. And this makes it quite hard to remove it as well. this is in contrast to the wizard which almost Slides out.
[General Topics] sidneysum:
Most of the problems happen on Dopod 9000 (Chinese Version of TyTN which sell in Taiwan). For defective machines, custumers can have an replacement within one month from the day of purchase. Taiwan HTC told will soft the problems shortly.
[General Topics] fermin:
Yes, same here. I prefer it this way, though, as I expect the stylus to go in and out easier in time. Hopefully not as easy as with the Wizard, where it actually falls out.
[General Topics] rakh1:
I had wandering screen and bad keyboard on my first v1605 from Vodafone. Got it replaced and the new one is perfect!

R
[General Topics] low405:
Just ordered my 2nd replacement and it'll be with me on monday. Please pray for me this time. If this one is no good they will not replce it again and will offer a differenrt handset :( . HTC support say that they will not support it and that we need to go through Vodafone for support. A software update is coming according to VF handset support.

Gonna restore from a backup and if it still shows problems I'll start from scratch again. Dis this one afresh and lasted a day before the screen went for a walk. My screen is also starting to go yellowish.

Still loving it when it's working :)

Phil
[General Topics] penyekz:
Just noticed this wandering screen problem on my phone. The alignment goes towards the left side by about 1cm for no apparent reason. Found this out this morning when it was fine all last night. I'm just wondering if this is a software problem or a hardware one. If its a software problem then a ROM upgrade should fix this. Has any previous HTC phones acted this way before? My wizard was completely fine but then again, I bought it 2 months ago after all the bugs would have been ironed out.
[General Topics] taron:
Hi,

Quite happy with my TyTN, appart a few points:

- voicemail icon doesn't display when I have a message (strange...)

- All those wifi notifications are booring...

- Push email won't work on Wifi, if both Wifi and UMTS connection are available
[General Topics] pim:
screen

screen alignment wanders and as such I usually need to re-align the screen once a day or more. Seems always to drift left and slight lower than I am pressing.

IT's the same problem I have .... What shall I do ? Send the unit for remplacement or wait for a software update ? I don't think it's a hardware problem.
[General Topics] taron:
You should try to ask directly to HTC Support: http://europe.htc.com/support/cs_by_email.html

I don't have the issue so far, maybe in a few days ...

PIM, do you have the voicemail icon issue I described earlier ?
[General Topics] penyekz:
I'm not sure. I've managed to ask them to extend my 14 day exchange for a few days and hopefully an update will be released soon. I'm hoping its a software problem and not a hardware one. They have offered to send me a replacement but I told them to hold off for a couple of days.

I've not had any issues with the keyboard. Just the screen alignment problem.
[General Topics] pgamble:
I think I had the first Vodafone v1605 - took delivery on the 10th July.

Mine doesn't have a keyboard issue, or (at the moment) a screen alignment issue.

I did have some issues with the device hanging on startup and one operational hang but since a rebuild .... I've had none since - about 4 days.

I do find that the device always seems to switch on in Landscape mode and then immediately switch to portrait. This is irritating, mainly because if you get an SMS on startup up, they onscreen keyboard retains it's landscape state with a 1/3 of it off the screen so you need to cancel the reply, switch to landscape and back, then reply.

Aside from this ... loving it.

Paul.
[General Topics] penyekz:
This is what HTC has replied to my query regarding the alignment issue:

-----------------------------------

Hello,

Alignment issue are caused by software irregularities.? It is possible to solve problems relating to alignment issues by obtaining the latest ROM update from Vodafone.

Simply install the latest ROM update on offer, and this should resolve the problem you are having.

Yours sincerely

Perry Bird

callservice@htceurope.com

http://www.htc.com

---------------------------------

What they didn't tell me is where to get the ROM upgrade and even if there is one seeing as this is such a new phone. Anyone out there with any bright ideas?
[General Topics] pim:
vodafone

I'd need the HTC Rom update, not the Vodafone

I really doubt there is already an update
[General Topics] penyekz:
I've just had another thought... Do all you guys with the alignment problem use a screen protector? i'm using a brando ultra clear protector and am thinking this might be the cause of the problem. Will try it out tomorrow without the protector and see if it makes a difference.
[General Topics] fermin:
For what it's worth, I've never had screen alignment issues, and I'm not using a screen protector.
[General Topics] rakh1:
Had the screen protector on for a day and then off for 2 days - the screen still wandered!

R
[General Topics] heyhey1991:
I guess this is the problem related to the temperature of the machine.. Everytime when I am using my Tynt for more than 30mins, the battery is really hot and the screen allignment will also shift. Once it cools down, it will back to normal.
[General Topics] pim:
nope

I've been using it during 2 hours yesterday without a wandering problem. I thought that it was repaired.

During the night the TyTN was of course swith off. And this morning, I just push the "on" button and the problem is back !

So it's not a temperature problem in my opinion.

Where is the vodafone rom update ? maybe I could try it
[General Topics] pim:
wandering

btw for me it's not always wandering to the left

This morning it's to the right

:d
[General Topics] infraskill:
issues

I have a original HTC TyTN and they keys on the rightside of the keyboard are unresponsive. I need to press them very hard. After using it for a week I feel that these keys are getting better tough.

My other issues are: The flashlight in the camera is not working. I have changed alle the settings, but it simply does not work.

My thirth issue is: I cannot get B2ADP (Bluetooth stereo headset) to work without hickups. I followed all tips/tricks on the forum, but the headset keeps on stopping/continuing/stopping/..

So My issues are:

1. Keys on the right side of the keyboard are unresponsive

2. Camera flash doesn't work

3. B2ADP is not working

It's a fine phone, i'm sure most issues are to be resolved in the numerous rom updates that will appear this year.
[General Topics] penyekz:
Just noticed another potential problem. The keyboard backlight is not on all the time when a key is pressed. After a soft reset, it turns on when a key is pressed. Is there like a light intensity sensor which activates the backlight in low light conditions or is my unit faulty. How have you found your keyboard backlight?
[General Topics] macrinus:
Hello,

Does these problems relate to the HTC TyTN with ROM version 1.6.05?

Cheers
[General Topics] pim:
rom

Mine is :

Model : HTC TyTN

Rom : 1.18.256.2

Radio : 1.03.03.10

Rom Ext. : 1.18.256.103

I doubt there is a 1.6 rom
[General Topics] Gilbert:
Hi,

I got my Tytn yesterday and it looks great. non of these issues as you guys mention in here. I live in Canada and work in the US. By the way just to tell you that the reason why the screen shifts from portrait to landscape when you remove it from the pouch and click the power bottom is because the magnets that are on the flap of the pouch interfere with the screen. Keep the device on and get it closer to the magnets and you will see.

By the way, how do you turn the 3g camera on. In the Qtek 9000 it was a feature in the camera program to switch between both camera. On the Tytn, I am clueless.

Best regards,

Gilbert
[General Topics] pgamble:
Hi guys

I always use a writeshield screen protector and haven't had the alignment issue. I suspect there are issues that will be resolved by a new ROM but surely everyone would be affected. The Vodafone extensions are very minor so I think any issues would also be on the HTC version.

I agree that the screen rotation issue is the case magnets. I hope it doesn't cause any permanent problems.

Yes there is a light senser on the keyboard - top right.

My keyboard is great. Not a stowaway or Psion 5mx but great for an integrated one.

The only downer I have at the moment is that the wireless reception is not as strong as the ipaq 2750.

Still loving it.

Paul.
[General Topics] penyekz:
Thanks for the keyboard tip - I didn't know there was a sensor... pretty smart.

My vodafone ROM is:

ROM version: 1.20.161.3

ROM Date: 06/06/06

Radio Version: 1.03.06.00

Protocol version: 32.34.7010.01W

For those that have the screen problem fixed by a replacement from vodafone, is your ROM the same as this?
[General Topics] Gilbert:
3g front camera on tytn

Hi Guys,

for all of you who have the Tytn, does the front 3G cmos camera seem funny? Does it have a coating on half of it and the other half is clear. well actually more than half of it to be honest. Mine has a line that devides a clear section from a coated one. Would be interested in knowing if anyone else has this as well.

Also can someone tell me how to launch this camera without having to be in a 3G call. I used to be able to do it from the Camera application in my qtek 9000.

Best regards,

Gilbert
[General Topics] pinballwizard:
On my device the keyboard light sometimes works in the complete dark, sometimes it doesn't.

The weird landscape mode also happens on my TyTN, oddly only when I've put the PDA in the beltclip holder. Maybe I push a button trying to get de PDA out of the clip? Strange!

BTW: watch out for the magnetic strips on your banking cards, the beltclip has two strong magnets!

My TyTN sometimes switches off the BT connection, I'm using BT with my Parrot CK3100 carkit, lots of problems using these two together!!! I'm having slightly better results using the JetWare prgm: http://www.jetwaremobile.com/index.htm .

pbw
[General Topics] xxnoelziexx:
Loose Stylus word of warning (heads up)

My friend has had a third unit for a few days now and the stylus has become very loose, he tried the second stylus in the box and mine with no joy. It is getting to the point if he holds it upside down it almost falls out so it is a matter of time before other units will follow suit.

I have had this problem on a exec and K-Jam which I thought was fixed on the TyTN as my unit gives me trouble to get the stlus out lol but wear and tear will cause problems. He said the same thing he use to battle with the stylus on the first day. He is calling vodaphone tomorrow to send the phone back I think he is waiting to see if there will be a new revision he said he is back to his old wizard for a few weeks or maybe months.

He said if they give him a replacement he will have a secondary stylus in his pocket to avoid taking the one from the phone or he find a case or mod the original one to hold the 2nd stylus which I don't think is a bad idea.
[General Topics] Gilbert:
Hi Guys,

for all of you who have the Tytn, does the front 3G cmos camera seem funny? Does it have a coating on half of it and the other half is clear. well actually more than half of it to be honest. Mine has a line that devides a clear section from a coated one. Would be interested in knowing if anyone else has this as well.

Also can someone tell me how to launch this camera without having to be in a 3G call. I used to be able to do it from the Camera application in my qtek 9000.

Best regards,

Gilbert