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[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
You give me some hope, but that's not the only problem I have with GPE whenever I put my phone on 2g only the little e that's supposed to be next to the signal bar does not show for me, I don't know if it my carrier or what but I see the h but when I switch to 2g only I get data but I don't see the e symbol, do you get that problem or is it only me, next question did you change your mid and cid to Google when you switch to GPE? [MENTION=4593368]bigbear6708[/MENTION]
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
I changed to Google Cid for OTAs
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
Did you change the mid also, and when you flash to convert did you place the file on the sd card or did you use the computer and adb ?
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Pretty sure I left mid alone, used adb [MENTION=742965]toysoldierq[/MENTION]
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
Thanks i think thats the problem i change my mid to google play one and i dont get the e, i highly doubt that makes sense lol.
[One (M8) General] nxmbness:
CM 12.1 is the only thing i've run that was actually an enjoyable experience, so GPE gets my vote.
[One (M8) General] daquick:
Love gpe on my m8
[One (M8) General] smeogle:
With Marshmallow on my GPS M8, my battery life has gone way up. I don't want to switch back to Sense until HTC releases it to us... Dat doze mode.
[One (M8) General] kullum79:
Personally to me there is a pro and con to sense and GPE

Sense have a better camera functionality with htc camera and gallery app

But it is very hard to use my Co Pilot GPS app on sense marshmallow

GPE is perfect if you want to start from scratch and learn about Android OS.

The con to GPE mashmallow that it is designed to use only google photos to browse for pics and HTC gallery is not compatible.
[One (M8) General] Viper4713:
Actually you can use HTC Gallery just fine, you can use every Sense app actually using Xposed module "Sensify", but here is Sense Gallery and Camera for GPE, The only downside is the lockscreen shortcut for Camera will not work correctly for Sense Camera if you have a pin or pattern password on your lockscreen, otherwise it will work.
[One (M8) General] kullum79:
Thanks
[One (M8) General] exon1:
GPE is faster than Sense for me. The only thing that I prefer in Sense is the ability to shot 60fps videos. Is there any way to make it work on GPE Version?
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
For those on sense 7 mm, how's the experience?!
[One (M8) General] Janity:
Quite good. I really like the mix of Sense and Marshmallow. Some dont, but i enjoy the experience.

Batterylife seems to be better than on Vanilla Android, but Stock Android is still the smoothest experience i had until now.

Sense has the better camera, i love the HTC music and gallery apps, that's why i am on Sense again.

And Vanilla got somewhat boring very fast. It lacks the little tweaks and things, that make me stay with a rom for some time.
[One (M8) General] jshamlet:
All in all, I think it's the best Sense release HTC has released yet, and I have absolutely loved it so far. My favorite feature is the ability to hide the navigation bar in the stock OS (no Xposed mods required!) I *wish* Google had thought to put that in stock Marshmallow, as I really miss that feature on my N7.
[One (M8) General] marelis84:
HTC One M8 marshmallow Htc One A9 port beats GPE. :cool:
[One (M8) General] shashwa:
I have 2 quick questions for those who have GPE on their M8

1. Does it have USB Mass Storage available? Stock M8 doesn't.

2. If I move from Stock to GPE can I move back, I've seen reports online that I won't be able to, due to partition sizing. That information was for Android 4.4, is that still the case?

Thanks!
[One (M8) General] fyarf:
you have to flash an old hboot, that will allow sense RUUs to run again. its all in the conversion thread.
[One (M8) General] shashwa:
Thank you
[One (M8) General] Eezay:
I tried out GPE when Marshmallow came out. It was a very good experience, very fast, good battery life, nice looking, very nice animations throughout the whole os. Last week i flashed Skydragon version 1.6.5.

I am very disappointed with Sense for Marshmallow. There are nearly no changes to the lollipop version of Sense. It still looks like Sense. Don't understand me wrong. I loved Sense for years but pure Android looks way better since lollipop and especially Marshmallow. None of those lovely animations can be seen in Sense (i mean why?) and almost every system app looks better on pure Android, for example the telephone app, sms, clock, app drawer, settings, even quick settings. Opening recent apps looks so edgy, not smooth at all. One of the main software features Blinkfeed became slower since HTC stopped service for it and let it rely on news republic. The whole system is slower than GPE. Battery life is worse but maybe something is wrong with my setup, although I use the same apps and settings like on GPE.

The better things about Sense are the good music player, which I don't need because i use PowerAmp, the camera and gallery, which you can install on GPE and some small things that google hasn't thought of like setting a song as ringtone or alarm or a native app for flashlight. And yeah themes are nice but after a while you're done with theming because most of them look like crap.

I hope sense 8 will become better. But I think other manufacturers will leave htc behind until then...
[One (M8) General] majekqwert_xda:
I prefer Sense.

Best mail and web browser.

But is alternative http://www.fulmics.com/htc-sense/
[One (M8) General] rdar_93:
Personal preference

I prefer sense mainly for it's camera features. I love taking photos with the manual controls on this thing. Some photos come out beyond what anyone would expect from a 4mp camera. I know that you can install the apk on GPE but sometimes, it crashes and certain features don't work properly.

Sample below to show why I love having that added functionality.
[One (M8) General] JonnyFoxtrot:
Hi all, just wondered if anyone who had updated to the latest Sense 6.0 could give any comparisons between it and GPE 6.0?
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Not smoothly enough
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
Sense 7 MM is really beautiful but the animations in GPE MM are amazing. Tough choice for me, I find that I quickly get bored with GPE. I'm not too sure what it is, maybe the statusbar or bright colors everywhere I never last longer than 2 days on GPE. Both are awesome choices of UI's, with the Sense Camera being an option on GPE are some people switching or sticking it out with Sense?
[One (M8) General] :
Been on GPE 6.0 for a couple weeks now and no complaints. Everything is working so far. I feel Sense is not quite there yet with a major issue with the radio always dropping data and have to reboot or toggle airplane mode to fix it. Once HTC works out that bug at least, I'll go back.
[One (M8) General] dar87:
I'm a longtime designer and I tend to prefer Sense over GPE. I used both for a period of a year each. Sense has always been way ahead, I can say Stock Lollipop was influenced by Sense 5.

The problem with stock android is that it represents Google, a company that doesn't know design (Just look at their new logo and search bar widget). Material design has become a case study on "how not to do design". For e.g. When you reach the bottom of a page, instead of a bounce effect you are treated with a kiddish squiggly line. The semi-skeuomorphic wallpapers and 4-o-clock shadows are done to death. Often a gathering of information will bombard you with multiple colors on screen from different temperatures (e.g. Google Messages). Google needs to start taking design seriously.

GPE always made me use my phone less. The Google Now launcher is a joke, it's embarrassing to have a search bar like that. Google Messages has so much bad design. There's no real personality behind it. Google Photos is no where close to being as good as HTC Gallery. HTC Music has a near perfect interface, Google Play Music is garbage. I had to install Nova Launcher and Rocket Player on GPE.

I showed a lot of my friends Blinkfeed, and they loved it. One who works in social media said, she'd even switch to HTC for this.

HTC Zoe is now "Live photos" on iOS and influenced another app called Vine.

HTC App drawer = The best, the fact that you can rearrange them into folders and sort them on the go, makes it the most versatile.

HTC Multitasking - this one is subjective but if you multitask alot, then HTC is better than the stacked cards.

Alot of people claim Google Play Edition is better in every way, that may have been true back in the gingerbread-kitkat era. Now it's all about fullscreen ads and google play services. The best way to put it is when I use Sense, I feel like my phone is alive, yeah blinkfeed is one reason.

GPE:

Pros:

Less fragmented (e.g. you can just rely on google services for backup)

Smooth and fluid animations.

Encourages you to use a different launcher and buy icons to support awesome Iconography and designers.

Cons:

Rogue App like Facebook is not installed by default. You can use a safe app like Metal to browse facebook without risk of constant wakelocks and sh*t FB does.

Leaving it on stock is terrifying

Material Design is a joke.

Colour palette is just too Fischer price. iOS and Windows did it way better.

Lack of features.

Makes phone seem lifeless.

Google Play Services.

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Sense:

Pros:

Surprisingly better interface.

Stock apps are leaps ahead of Googles.

Arguably better battery life.

For some reason feels more alive and dynamic.

Snappier less fluid animations.

Cons:

Facebook is installed by default. (It's a rogue app)

Can get fragmented (Backup used to be in dropbox, now google drive, next.. god knows where)

Confusing set up process (Especially with HTC backup)

HTC have no idea what they're doing now.

News Republic Integration.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Scrolling is better on Sense...
[One (M8) General] Bobbi lim:
I'm staying with Android L when it comes to HTC Sense :P
[One (M8) General] xdagee:
I prefer GPE expect for the HTC Camera which I missed sometimes but overall GPE is minified that's why its I love it. Noo too much complicated stuffs. :)
[One (M8) General] Lauren G:
I prefer GPE.The long term experience is better. Sense is very smooth at the begining ,but after a while becomes laggy.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Gpe :)
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
Its real tough now with Sense 8 on the scene, GPE now has a Dark Theme option too
[One (M8) General] dave oh:
Dark theme ? How ?
[One (M8) General] krazie1:
http://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/themes-apps/gpe-dark-theme-mm-5-07-1700-12mra58k-t3363549
[One (M8) General] pettumuyal:
I like sense a lot better due to followinv reasons

1. Multi tasking Grid view is so better than Card view. In card view we cannot see apps that have been opened a while ago without scrolling all the way back. In Grid view ,all opened apps are on same page.

2. Navigation bar can be edited to add custom buttons like notification bar,power off etc..I have added 4th button as screen off. So with double tap to wake.,never needed to click power button for screen on and off.

3. New GPE OTA has some bugs, no such bugs on sense
[One (M8) General] BryanNikson:
I've used both but I prefer Sense. I don't think this makes SENSE but the scrolling on third party apps is smoother on Sense.

Not sure about gaming since I don't game on phone
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Gaming is better on Sense...

GPE has a great UI, and better ram management, but scrolling is not good.

You can make GPE smoother with SkyDragon v.1 kernel.
[One (M8) General] BryanNikson:
Personally, Sense 8 > GPE 6.0 > Sense 7 in terms of A E S T H E T I C S. Yeah, the RAM management is arguably better though.

Thanks. Will try that when I get on GPE next time!
[One (M8) General] root121:
Hi guys..

I have flashed GPE on my M8, but I'm trying to get back to Stock...someone help me out please :(
[One (M8) General] bpdev:
This isn't the thread for that but you should take a look at the second post here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2708589 Should be able to get you up and running.
[One (M8) General] RodriTihuana:
I don't want to deviate much from the thread but since a couple of you guys upgraded from a Nexus 5, how comparable are the cameras on this devices? The Nexus "stock" camera is not that good but with HDR+ activated it is even better than my gfs iphone 5s. I'm not sure if I should upgrade, I love HTC design, apparently better battery life, build quality but I will be loosing all the amazing custom roms/kernels (PIE and stuff that I actually use). That's a tradeoff I can make,but to downgrade to a "lesser" camera... that's not something I want to do. Thanks in advance!
[One (M8) General] bkeaver:
Then don't deviate. Either find an existing thread on this or start one.
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
I just came online to make this thread, but since it's here I'll participate XD

I'm considering the Developer Edition and the GPE. Thing is, I can't really justify getting a Dev version at $700 though because it was $650 at one point :P.

Stock Android just seems to be a tiny bit nicer.

The issue with all the GPE reviews is that they complain about the high price and how it isn't worth getting over a carrier version on contract, but when they're both the same price it makes the decision a lot harder.
[One (M8) General] waz675:
Easy to do, look at the app usage. Do nothing with the phone besides calls. Why have a brilliant fast phone and use it if you can do nothing with it we and get great SOT screen shots!
[One (M8) General] daddioj:
no sorcery just sexy LOL.. despite what everyone says draining the battery fully is so bad blah blah. even when the phone shuts doen to reserve some power. i'll boot it up into bootloader mode until all juice is completely gone. I do this to all my phones and have great results
[One (M8) General] daddioj:
that's with texting all day long and social media. and a few phone calls but I was on wifi! a lot of assumptions on what people do with there phones. I don't know how much less I would get if I was on 3g 4g/lte I have a life I don't try to get best on screen times then post to impress anyone. :good:
[One (M8) General] boe323:
Download 4.4.2 gapps package ...extract googlenow launcher, (download a 4.4.2 deodexed rom for deskclock, phototable and gallery) genie widget I think there was another ....google dialer installs but crashes when you use it so don't bother with that. You have to keep google now launcher upto date manually though ....as you say its been marked as incompatable in play store...its far from it though.
[One (M8) General] gfreek:
This mini review of the GPE from the verge pretty much sums up what I think: http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/18/5624312/htc-one-m8-google-play-edition-hands-on
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
Did anyone who has used both a standard and GPE M8 also use both a standard and GPE M7 last year and notice that the GPE M7 was noticeably less smooth? Is the GPE M8 also less smooth than the standard?

Also, for those who came from an N5 and are particularly sensitive to stutter and smoothness differences, is the GPE M8 as fast and smooth as the N5? I owned both a Nexus 4 and a GPE M7, and the GPE M7 was noticeably more choppy / less smooth despite its better processor, so I'm wary that the GPE M8 may also be poorly optimized compared to a Nexus.
[One (M8) General] acPIZZA:
It's very smooth. AT&T GPE convert here.
[One (M8) General] kennypow3rs:
I converted as well and there's absolutely no way in hell GPE gets battery life like sense. No way. Its almost night and day of a difference. Converted back to sense because of it. I also have M7 and it was the same. Sense may be heavy but the battery life is phenomenal.
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
MKBHD used both and he said that the GPE was the same in responsiveness.
[One (M8) General] bpdev:
I think the biggest problem is their transitions are super short and can be perceived as choppy. Where as nexus and gpe phones have long transitions that make it feel smooth.
[One (M8) General] bpdev:
Have you had any issues with signal. I've heard other people complaining about it on the gpe software.
[One (M8) General] acPIZZA:
Non that I can notice. I live and work around/in New York City though and generally always have a good-strong LTE signal.
[One (M8) General] Michealtbh:
I came from a N5, I find the M8 a little smoother. I also find GPE just as smooth as stock.

Something is wrong, here are my current stats with 44% remaining
[One (M8) General] GR36:
That pretty easy. Delete or rename the HTC lock screen app in system/priv-app/ and reboot.
[One (M8) General] Mantahoe:
T-Mobile M8 - Sense Vs GPE (My opinion)

Key things I miss after flashing the GPE RUU. (I'm unable to go back to Sense till HTC release an official Sense RUU or till someone on here figures out how to go back. I've tried with no luck.) I'm Unlocked, S-Off, Rooted.

1) Camera - Sense Camera just blows the GPE Camera away, even after the update. Speed is what I'm after. Even the quality/color is better on Sense IMO.

2) Sense Messaging App - I can live with hangouts but I'd rather separate them and Sense Messaging app has more functionality, like blocking, privacy etc.

3) I actually like Blinkfeed.

4) Blocking contacts. This just isn't there with GPE, unless there's a separate App for that.

If there was a way to port the Sense Camera to GPE, I would stick with GPE. That's my only deal breaker. Overall HTC One M8 is a GREAT phone coming from Nexus 5.
[One (M8) General] Michealtbh:
Try 8sms, it's a great messaging app. Be sure to change the icon in the settings though as the default one is horrible.
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
Cool, thanks!
[One (M8) General] Michealtbh:
15% remaining
[One (M8) General] bpdev:
Went ahead and converted for the week. At first it doesn't seem any faster or smoother, although I like the transitions better, but after messing around with it it seems like scrolling performance is better in places like the play store and google+. Also could be a placebo effect, what do you guys think?
[One (M8) General] jkr284:
Does anyone know how to get fitbit to work all the time on the gpe m8? On sense it worked constantly recording my steps etc using the co processor.
[One (M8) General] cc999:
Agree

Agree 100%

CC
[One (M8) General] hawaiianboi:
I converted my T-Mobile M8 to the GPe and was able to revert it back to Sense. I'm currently running the ViperOneM8 rom, while it's not an official RUU, I really did miss the sense camera and the messaging app. I tried to like blinkfeed, however I didn't look at that enough to justify using it. The link below has all of the steps I followed to get it back to sense.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51700846&postcount=2
[One (M8) General] Mantahoe:
Thanks Hawaiianboi. Lemme give it another shot.

I've really tried but no dice. I have all the prerequisites. But the firmware on that post seemed to be corrupt to me. It's not even unzipping (not that I need to unzip it). Plus I can't find TWRP 2.7.0.4. All I have found is 2.7.0.2, not sure if that's really the problem. Thanks.

---------- Post added at 09:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:07 PM ----------

It worked! I was missing the most important part. Don't know why/how.I forgot to

fastboot oem rebootRUU

before

fastboot flash zip firmware.zip

. I'm back to my Senses (pun intended). Thanks for that extra push.
[One (M8) General] skydeaner:
I dunno but I'm stuck in GPE mode now and can't get back to a test rom lol
[One (M8) General] lucasborborema:
I had much Android phones, such as Samsung, Sony, nexus and now HTC M8 (iPhone 4 and 5 also), and in my opinion the HTC sense is the only android modification that is perfect. For me touchwiz and Xperia UI is just crap.

So, HTC SENSE!!!
[One (M8) General] acPIZZA:
Yes, it works the same.
[One (M8) General] DREWHAMM974:
Do what I'm doing. Keep both, enjoy both, use both. Switching back and forth is the only thing I can do seeing I love both of them.
[One (M8) General] Dreadsteel:
I am new to this device, I am wondering, why are you guys converting to GPE? why can't you just flash a GPE rom and use that to test?

why go through all that hassle just to convert it?

thanks in advance.
[One (M8) General] Petronilo13:
U can capture video on the screen in GPE?
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
How's the ram usage
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
RAM usage is a bit better on the GPE.

I saw a performance comparison in games between the GPE and Stock, and the GPE blew the regular one out of the water. It was constantly smoother, with absolutely no dips in FPS or lag. On the regular version, games like GTA San Andreas were unplayably choppy whereas the GPE was over 60FPS.
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
You sure you were using an M8? I just downloaded GTA San Andreas and jacked the resolution to the max, visual effects to high, shadows to advanced, draw distance to 100%, and car reflections to detailed and its butter smooth. Quit trolling.
[One (M8) General] :
When I first got this phone, all the bloat from AT&T popping up at me gave me a headache, because I am used to vanilla android. However, after setting up the phone, I disabled all the AT&T apps I could and a few HTC apps that were confusing (ex. replaced browser with chrome, scribble with keep, and music with play music), and installed Nova launcher. I think this is close enough to stock for me. I really like sense besides the fact most sense widgets are limited to the sense launcher, and I don't like the status bar clutter. Other than that, sense is pretty nice. This may be the first android device I've owned that I don't unlock or root.
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
It wasn't me, I saw a video :P

It could have been on an early firmware for the stock M8 or something, but I saw what I saw and the reviewer made a point to say the GPE was a lot smoother. It very well could be smoother now.
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
Most reviewers are quite biased towards vanilla Android. There is no question that there is a difference in performance but calling the game unplayable is a huge stretch. Out of all of the custom skins, Sense is one of the lightest.

I will say that it bogged down in scenes with multiple characters so I installed it on my Nexus 7 and compared and the Nexus 7 has issues with it period compared to my M8 so either way, there is a significant performance bump from the S4 Pro in the Nexus to the S801 in the M8.

Now don't ask me what that session did to my battery though... I dropped 19% in 40 minutes. With that said, it was a proof of concept thing to see if the M8 could handle it maxed out and I'd say that it does very well. The only stuttering I noticed was in the cutscenes with lots of polygons going on, the actual gameplay is extremely smooth. Needless to say, the out of the box app experience is lag free, its tweaking with the settings that puts a strain on it.
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
Where'd that battery go XD?

He must have been running a lot of apps in the background or older software, because it was really really laggy in the video :P

Good to hear it works well though!
[One (M8) General] downwiththebanksters:
How does he/do you do this? Is it as simple as having 2 Nandroids saved from a Stock RUU, and GPE RUU, and then recovering into each one at will? Is that possible with the differences in the partition tables? Does a Nandroid, when restored, do all the partioning on the fly?