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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cmonex:
how do you mean brick like nature... it is not bigger than the universal.

i have a zaurus Cxxx and i have to say the qtek 9000 is slightly better. :P for my usage at least. especially as the universal is a phone as well. the zaurus lacks other hardware features (built in wifi or bt) but so does the universal (dual slots, usb host, hdd - not that i'd need a usb host or a hdd). and which OS is better? hard to decide for me... neither is the absolute best for me, i already have another favourite (no, not palm).
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] skywriter:
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i meant brick, like 'inert heavy object of little value'

my zaurus went from a sharp rom with an upgraded kernel to support a GPRS modem to an OPIE gui on a newer kernel. i should have stuck with the old sharp rom - it's been flakey, and most of the apps don't work. i can go back - if i find enough time to bumble through the vague rom reinstallation directions... but i doubt i'll find the kernel upgrade again. not really worth the time i suppose.

on the other hand, whatever faults WM devices have, they've given me way more bang/buck.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cmonex:
oh, sorry to hear about your bad experiences. all i did to mine was to upgrade it to the most recent rom usable for normal users (old kernel though - who cares), it is based on the sharp rom, just developed a little further with lots of little useful stuff, drivers for everything on earth, and new apps. i never tried hacking the new kernel, could not be bothered about it. anyway the installation is easy (to the old kernel :P ) and takes 5 mins, if you ever need help just drop me a private message :)

sorry for being off topic :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] PReDiToR:
To add my 0.02GBP:

Camera is CRAP. No two ways about it.

Sony Ericsson making the w810i and the w900i have put excellent cameras in them that have wonderful flashes.

The phones are a lot smaller than my Uni, yet the speakers are louder and bass-ier, yet positioned badly for stereo.

The BT on my Uni sucks, but mainly due to the open/shut issue with the lid.

The WiFi will connect with the 802.11g protocol, but only at 802.11b speeds.

Why is it that the newer HTC units are using slower processors? Moore's law doesn't apply in the PDA world?

I love my Uni, but it isn't perfect.

Can we just all agree that there are significant problems with it but until another unit with this form factor comes along it is the best on offer?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] corleno:
hi Iv only 1 problem(the worst one)

my

program memory is only 16 constant all the time....

it is around 24 whn the device starts up...

the bggest problem is it aint enough :/

is there any particular ROM i must try to get a larger program memory ?

I use the official O2 rom....the latest one..

and all i run is just wisbar advance and pocketbreeze on the today screen
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cmonex:
easy to answer... it is the only one pocketpc that is usable for me... VGA screen, keyboard... and on top of all this, it's a phone and even has 3G!!

i don't care about the cameras but it is amazing it has two. :D

my "normal" cellphone (SE T610) has a crap vga camera... this has 1.3 mpixel... i'm ok with it.. but actually i never use it :P

what i use is the keyboard.. and the screen, i can't live with qvga. opera works so excellent, in real vga mode, and i need vga for a few other programs too.. the phone part is very good as well, sms sending has never been this easy, i don't even have to use the stylus to read a new sms and to reply to it! :)

...and last but not least, i love the design!!! it just looks so cool. especially when opened in mini laptop mode. :D

hmm all in all it is just amazing how this thing has everything in one + good design! ;)

trying to answer some of your notes:

about bluetooth, well i never use it, i turned it on only once to test if it works at all. :) it worked but couldn't figure out how to send files. i could send files to it from another device though.

hx4700 and video? haha you've not seen a sigmarion 3.

i have one and so i don't really care about video on the universal.. but i'm sure it would be good enough if i tried..

no other phone has 520 mhz... and a lot of newer pda's (without phone) don't even have 520..

i would love it to have a 4" screen though. the pda phone (yes phone too) i used before the universal had 4" and very good colours and brightness.. i think the universal's screen is a little worse but it is still excellent.. and the phone part is better than on that 4" phone.

what pda has real G wifi? tell me. none..... and the universal is G compliant, just doesn't have G speeds. why would i need it?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cmonex:
don't use spb pocketplus ... that eats a lot of ram i think.. oh i see you have wba, maybe it has the same effect?

i don't use either and i have about 30 mb after a soft reset (latest qtek rom), and it never goes below 25mb except if i use opera... with opera running but without any page loaded in it i get exactly 25 (with other programs and a taskmanager and batt meter etc running in the background). :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cmonex:
mmm, no moore's law cant apply due to limited battery capacity. the 624mhz cpu came out in 2004 and we're in 2006 and still hardly any pda uses more than 400... the universal is one of the few exceptions :)

(though its battery life is still quite good)

yup it isn't perfect.. no i don't have very significant problems with it but i agree on all the other stuff you said :)

maybe one significant problem for me is that the OS won't support real true vga out of the box. luckily a few programs do. (i didn't like ozvga when i tried it..)

but this is a microsoft problem! and don't even mention other stupid things in the OS.. task managing etc :) oh well. :P
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] eksekki:
I, for one, love my Universal. AFAIK, W-Zero3 is the only other PDA with VGA screen + UMTS but it doesn't work in Europe so... not much choice? ...and I don't want to carry an extra device like a phone :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] richardlai:
I kind of love my Universal because whenever I show it to somebody, they would say, "Wow! That's HUGE!"

And then I can reply, "That's what they all say." 8)

Then it is the swivel screen (again, to impress both adults and kids), then the lovely keypad, then the processor, then 3G (although I haven't really used UMTS yet).
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] HeartOfDarkness:
LOL Classic... :-) Although I personnally prefer to show off with my BT headset, which are still not too common around our parts, not to mention the gorgeous MOtorola HT-820... :-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Chatbox:
So, I spent the last 2 days thinking about this whole problem that I'm having. Right now, I really do see this as a "problem" for me. As I result, I've just got rid of my Universal and gone back to a phone & a PDA (seperate). At least I'll know for sure that are reliable. They're going to be "inconvinient"...but is better than what was in my eyes as "problem".
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] HeartOfDarkness:
Ah, it's a shame, but one thing is sure: if it was a real problem for you, then you're right to have disposed of your Universal. :-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] richardlai:
Just out of interest, what do you use now?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rajesh01:
Previously every time I opened play store it shows me its regular screen and contents. But today when i opened it shows only apps section and in that free apps only, no paid apps. What's the matter? And why is that happening?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kona144:
You can try and delete cache for the store or maybe its just an update of the google play store.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eenong89:
it could be just some new interface.....try to touch around.....i believe you could find the content you need....
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bashar Jarad:
try flashing the last Google apps :rolleyes:
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[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
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S5 Echoe Rom, ROM for the Samsung Galaxy S 5

Contributors

friedrich420, Wuby986, daxgirl

ROM OS Version: 4.4.x KitKat

ROM Kernel: Linux 3.4.x

Version Information

Status: Stable

Current Stable Version: 1

Stable Release Date: 2014-04-16

Created 2014-04-16

Last Updated 2014-05-17
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
Reserved for [MENTION=5493353]Wuby986[/MENTION] :good::good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
Reserved for [MENTION=4714483]daxgirl[/MENTION] :good::good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
S5 AEL Kernel

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[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
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[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Last one ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] CP-93:
yesss! finally echoe rom for the S5!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
I think you should reserve a couple more!!!! :cyclops: This is gonna be HUGE!!! ;) Congrats, guys!!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] CP-93:
do i get on your official thanks list cause i tested your custom kernel? :P haha
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
I am thinking like in "Sisterhood of traveling pants" scenario... one phone traveling in between 3-4 countries??? DIIIIIBBBZZZZ!!!!! I called DIBS!!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Crap ;) too late :p

THANK YOU DUDENESS!!! YOU GUYS MADE IT REALITY!!!

The AROMA WIZARD is sleeping im sure ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
hehe ;)

you def knew it ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] CP-93:
yeah see how surprised I sounded? ;) haha
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Crap I guess DIBS wins all ;) so I guess im third on the DIBS for the sole Echoe S5 phone ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
Last message I got from the aroma wizard was at 4:45... so if he is awake he won't be for long... because I WILL KILLER HIM!

Look, this thread is already echoe crazy. .. someone please ban me from xda... I am begging you
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
loool :D

Not even if you try your hardest ;) (Actually dont... this is not a "challenge to be accepted" ;)

Yep ... i saw the upload was done around 3 am... :D

Wake the beast up!!!!!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
That man... THAT MAN.... He is an idol!!!! And he should rest!!!! You wake him up you pay with your LIFE!!! I mean it!!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
not that crazy ;)

if i need him something ill email him.... no hangouts pm's at least before 11 am ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
Mannnnnn. .. will Wuby be embarrassed when he wakes up and kill us both... ts... ts... ts...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
maybe embarrassment (him blushing through the Universe) will wake him up??

Im stopping now :p
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Very nice!! :good:

So far we have confirmation for at least 2 (in addition to the one was designed for: the G900F) other variants: G900I and G900T !! :good::good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] bubu23:
whats the best govenor for smooth and battery?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Lionheart seems to be a winner so far.. I like intellidemand also..
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] CP-93:
So any fix for this nfc issue yet?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
Wich model is your?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] CP-93:
SM-G900I

---------- Post added at 07:08 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:46 PM ----------

I've found a workaround for the nfc issue and thought I would share it!, if you reflash a stock firmware using Odin then reflash the rom without wipe the nfc issue isn't there and nfc works fine just wipe cache and dalvik cache and your good to go!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
Nice!! Awesome you solved.. thanks for sharing!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] bubu23:
any solve for app ops starter force close???

---------- Post added at 01:45 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:32 PM ----------

thx my frien ...and any suggest min max what the best or what to change???? plz cause i dont know(it ask me to install bustybox to use the kernel settings so idid)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Dont feel bad about asking ANY questions in this thread my friend :)

TBH you are so lucky to have the most powerful phone in the market right now at a crazy 2.5 ghz max cpu freq.. I WOULDNT CHANGE A THING...!!! :) :good:

I would only play around with the different governors and i/o schedulers :)

Im sure even stock on this device is still AWESOME!! :good::good: damn it i wnat one.. nope that was the tennager freddy talking ;) lol :D
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
I am sorry... what what what was that about the most powerful ohone in the packet? I am holding the most powerful phone in my hands right now (read Tapatalk sig!!!) And no one will convince me otherwise! !! ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
I do too ;)

Purely speaking of how high the frequency can go by default and looking inside the kernel my dear dirty flasher ;) sorry...

I think sapple (i love Khizar ;) screwed up with only 2gb ram though...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] bubu23:
great man so ill put it on 2.5 cause now its on 1.7...

and ill try lionheart govenor.:D

tho i dont know how to tell the diffrent cause this rom with the phone is abomb :laugh:

thx for your help cheers
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Im gonna "scold" you now :p

You have a 2.5 ghz beast and you have it lowered to 1.7!!!! ts ts ts ... that sir is a disgcrace :p

Awesome my man!! Im glad you are enjoying our Rom, kernel and mostly our little crazy (not crazy little) Echoe FAMILY :) :good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
Yep! Less than 10% more frequency that no one uses and we pay over 150€ more for that (and minus 1 gb of ram) - perfect upgrade ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Hahahahahahahahaha :D oh you are helping me more than u know ;) (actually you do) :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
You know it's false.. New ram, new proc, new case,new camera... Anyway i'm still far away to be satisfied... When they can make coffee like i do, call me again looooool
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
I am sorry... how do you make coffee? ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
Excellent :) ahahahahah
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] bubu23:
i didnt lower it it on lock frequency...so it goes automatic low and up and now its on 2.5 :laugh:

i use trickster mod and it say it depend in the app open etc....
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
Any power save enabled?? ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] bubu23:
No power save here
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
Ok... was just a thought.. because that's the frequence of power save if i'm not mistaken...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
If I am not mistaken Qualcomm devices run MP decision protocol that puts core online by demand with various clock speeds and the highest is never the highest clocking speed. It will, however, bring all 4 cores online to fire at max clocking while using high rendering need games and benchmarks.

Also, most devices sold in Europe and in the U.S. come with 2.3 ghz and only in Asia and several european countries are selling the 2.5 devices. ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] :
"Little crazy ECHOE family"??? Hahahahaha. This family is bigger and crazier than every other. (If there is one). Look at me, I have no S5 and i'm in this thread just to follow my family.:laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] dynospectrum:
[MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] This is my absolute favorite TW ROM so far on the S5. Extremely stable, not to mention the improved Samsung keyboard! Loving the slim version ;]

Just curious, any chance there will be an inverted version of the kickass improved Samsung keyboard in the future? Cheers!

Transaction ID: 74B19565FP300051J

Sent from my SM-G900T
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] RuggeroZanolini:
light version

Hello there,

Just a simple question: what has been eliminated into light version? How much is free ram gain with this specific version?

Cheers and thanks :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
Hi!

Your question about ram gain is not very clear to me. The way android is built it needs to run on ram close to full with most used processes loaded into ram for smooth expirience.

not only that there is no reason to have "more available ram" in android, it's actually counterproductive. That's why the use of ram clearing apps is NOT advised on android systems and is frowned upon.

In order for your system to function correctly and tp load activities fast enough, your ram needs to be full. Not empty.

When your system needs ram it will use LMK (low memory killer) to free ram by closing processes loaded into ram. RAM management in KK I'd actually quiet good. That's why Samsung allowed themselves to release a flagship with only 2gb of ram.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] RuggeroZanolini:
Mmm, i understand! Thank you very much for your answer! It was absolutely clear to me! What about the light version? What has been removed?

Then.. is there any way to remove the small delay between home battn' pressure and effective exit animation's start? It seems slow
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] daxgirl:
Since I do not have the device I cannot tell you what was removed. ..

To remove the lag you're talking about, go to s voice > settings > disable open with home button

After that the switching with home button will be instantenious
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] dynospectrum:
From my install log:

Skipping Allshare
Skipping ChatON
Skipping Chrome
Skipping Dropbox
Skipping Gmail
Skipping Google Drive
Skipping Goole Plus
Skipping S Cloud
Skipping Google Maps
Skipping Mobile Print
Skipping Hangouts
Skipping Kies
Skipping Polaris Viewer
Skipping You Tube
Skipping Samsung Apps
Skipping Samsung Browser
Skipping Stock Email
Skipping Talkback
Skipping Voice Recorder
Skipping S Voice
Skipping PageBuddy

Sent from my SM-G900T
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] leoaudio13:
Hi [MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION] , I found that your ROM is a bit quiet in term of sound in comparison to others. It might be kernel related ? specially with ringtones and notification. I also use ViperFX but notification is not at that loud ..... hmmmh
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] RuggeroZanolini:
Thanks to everybody, I will try light version later on.

Now that double click has been disabled this phone is bleeding fast :) thank you very much mate!!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mrl0n3ly714:
Can we have a WIFI CALLING feature add on on this room? Or is there a way to do this ?

I have tmobile and the feature WIFI CALLING is great for long distance and oversea.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
THANK YOU my friend!! :) :good:

AFAIK its a feature that only you guys have ;) therefore, close to impossible to implement on the international variant...
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] mrl0n3ly714:
Can i have a special request ? i bet there are a lot of tmobile users would like to use custom rom but missing this feature...

it would be nice to have an add on maybe ?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] thehacker911:
[MENTION=4401403]friedrich420[/MENTION]

Can you help us? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2695363 Post 22 to 39

Thanks

Gesendet von meinem SM-G900F mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] radicalisto:
Try with the stock kernel (if compatible) and see how the sound is, then you can determine 100% if it's kernel or ROM. It's possible Viper drivers are not up to date yet though also(?)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] leoaudio13:
Viper latest with Z-edition IRS. Probably the kernel.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Easter egg in "echoe downloads" :)

OG BatteryMod in OTA Kitchen :good::good:

If you go to Echoe Downloads and Extras/ Downloads in the Mods section you will find a nice little zip called "S5_OGBatteryMod". Flash that and then tap 3 times on your battery icon and enjoy the surprise ;) :good:
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] AlEjAnDrO812:
I think you refer to privacy mode. When you root, knox become 0x1 and that desactivate all the functions of knox and one of them is privacy mode.
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] RuggeroZanolini:
Best Scheduler

Good morning everybody! Which is the best scheduler to use with lion heart governor?

Thanks and have a nice Pasquetta :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
Good morning! :)

zen is the one we like a lot.... sio is also one of my favorites :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] RuggeroZanolini:
Great! And what about the buffer?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
I use 1024 or 2048 usually :)
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] jaggythistle:
Wow now echoe rom, things are really looking up for the S5, I hope it's just as amazing as for the Note 3. I know I'm a little late but jumping around 4 devices is a pain in the ass!
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] Wuby986:
I guess you only need to try to find it out :D
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] varun.gid:
I can't change the battery icon using the Battery Style Tools in the settings menu. Anyone can help? Also, how to add widgets on S5 lockscreen?
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] morsha:
I downloaded and flashed the S5_OGBatteryMod.zip from the kitchen, after that I could change the battery icon.

Sent fra min SM-G900F via Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] bubu23:
I need help with the kernal...

I put lionheart with zen but i want to know i put the max clock freq 2.5 whats the best min freq???
[Galaxy S 5 Android Development (Snapdragon)] friedrich420:
stick with the default min frequency my man...