yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
maybe cuz i never flashed the nc2 rom. i went mk2 to nc5 with the out flashing the bootloader. the older nc2 way flashed a bootloader i believe. i have never downgraded
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Probably a dumb question but where do u find what bootloader ur on?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Someone else mentioned it earlier in this thread. Works a treat! Grab this -> https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo

Edit: Actually I think that was mentioned in Surge's NC5 thread from "General" ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AsaSpades:
I have been following this thread for a while, but kept putting off trying it. I'm currently on Hyperdrive RLS15 w/SS and it has been problem free. How much of an improvement is 4.4.2? And which roms will work with SS and have the least amount or no bugs/issues? I see some people having a problem with Wifi & GPS, is there a confirmed work-around? Sorry if these have been answered and confirmed already.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Thanks man that's a bad ass app!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Oishikatta:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo

Edit: Was a page back, see this was already posted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Cool app. Oh yes still mk2 bootloader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Just out of curiosity why is a mk2 bootloader a good thing as opposed to say nc2?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
No clue other than still being able to flash 4.3 roms. Which I don't care to do. I'm thinking I should possibly flash the nc5 bootloader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droid4lif3:
Nooooooooo don't do that, I will switch phones with you, before you do that, I have NC5 and want to install CM11 but I can't because of this dumb update. I just bought the phone on craiglist and I never knew that the S4 for Verizon was on lock down. I should of read these forums before I got it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
I don't have mdk bootloader on this phone. Mk2 is locked just like nc2 nc5.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
So u can flash 4.3 and 4.4 runs?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
I think so. Never tried.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
Really need video for this
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jake.99x3:
WiFi working perfect on eclipse ROM ported att. I was also previously mk2 nc2 leak and nc5. I downgraded with surge and flashed back up and my WiFi is working great.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
On nc2 bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Quick question I'm trying to flash a international rom but it hangs at boot ani, I remember in the post u told me to remove boot img. Where do I find this in the Rom
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
It should be in the zip of the ROM you flashed. Say you downloaded HyperdriveRLS15.ZIP it will be in there. you have to remove it before you flash.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Gotcha, thanks buddy!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
What ROM were you trying to get running and did it work?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Anyway to Port Insane from T mobile, bad ass Rom!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gigilie:
shouldnt need to be ported. i just installed kit-kat v7.zip flashed a minimum install aroma patch 20 via jrkruse's international and it worked for me. some fcs with mms and phone but after 2 each they went away...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gigilie:
this literally could be a million different things making it hang on the boot animation.... it will not be leaving boot.img in the zip tho bro. even flashing a boot.img from a different phone system wont mess up when you restart the phone safestrap will reset to the default boot.img that you flashed through odin. either 4.3 or 4.4.2 everytime... unless u have the test version of hash's bypass 3.71?

what you need to do bro is pull the build.prop out from the /system directory inside the zip you want to flash and find the line of code labeled logcat and instead of disable or off change to enable or on... then rezip or whatever, flash the rom and when it hangs like that let it sit 5 min turn off phone then go into safestrap and using adb or something pull the logcat file. examining this will show you where the boot error is occuring.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jake.99x3:
You cant install CM11 even on the mk2 bootloader. You need to be MDK which was 4.2.2

Does anybody know if ViSiON-X AT&T rom will work with the patch?

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Echo Rom is giving me problems. What I really need is a solid 4.4 rom that isn't as heavily themed as the one in the AFH directory. Thinking about flashing 2.3 since I was on 20.2. I hope Hyperdrive is updated to 4.4 soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Try Phoenix, it's the cleanest Rom out in my opinion.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Zooandbio4me:
I odin'd nc5 and successfully downgraded to mk2... on phoenix but cannot get messaging to open... keeps fc. Handcent works but I hate it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] adamklo:
OK, I got excited finding this thread, but am completely confused by the OP.

I did the OTA to NC5 and then found out I couldn't root. Is there a way to downgrade to MK2? Would it be possible to Odin the MK2 stock file [SCH-I545_VZW_1_20131212083410_mwx72ql56g_fac]? Or am I stuck on stock NC5?

The OP reads to me that I can downgrade from NC5 to MK2 and then I can root, install SS 3.72 and flash custom ROMs, but with the inclusion of NC2 and all the files tagged with 'no bootloader' 'no system' and/or 'upgrade-downgrade' I'm really lost on what I can or should do.

I'm not super fluent with the S4 and all the procedures; when I got it I was able to flash Hyperdrive 9 onto my ME7, but so much changes so quickly and keeping up with what can be flashed on what build is overwhelming for me. Please go easy on my ignorance.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
+1 there should be a thread on how to do this for those who took the ota. Maybe a video to.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Download a inverted messaging app in the theme section.

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http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407568934

Try this
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Hey r u the pro porting Insane over? Bad ass Rom bro I hope it's u!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gigilie:
guys if you took the OTA or whatever u still use the same files to faux downgrade to mk2 and to root. just need to download an odin'able system.img for 4.3 to flash in order to root that system.img then install safestrap... its all the same just i dont have bootloaders that will f**k your s**t up if you dont want them too.

ill try and get an odin'able 4.4.2 rom with root and safestrap online soon. the point of this thread is to prevent people from taking the unneeded OTA and wrecking their chances of ever having an unlocked bootloader. hopefully some people have caught it before upgrading... if ota is taken or the full flash odin 4.4.2 nc5 image is flashed so your bootloaders are upgraded you still follow the same steps to get custom roms on and working nothings changed. i did make some new files for easing into 4.4.2 and back down and i uploaded 3 WIP ROM ports to hopefully hush those unable to get one working. check the ROM directory under the 4.4.2 dir for:

Chaos 2.5.2

Blackbox 3.0

CarHD 23.3

thanks to the original developers of these sick roms... Chaos, DSA, Carotix

these ROM's are in Safestrap/TWRP restoreable form. if you don't know how to restore or make a backup thru SS then don't bother. otherwise simplest way if you don't know what directory your backup TWRP folder is you'll need to make a nandroid backup of your current system or just a partial then view your sdcard on the computer goto TWRP/backup/"random number generated by phone"/"folder u just created" then unrar the files in whatever ROM you swiped from me and put sdcard back in phone and enter SS (you'll need to have downgraded or just flashed the AP only of 4.3 in order to modify Safestrap) then choose the restore option and the ROM by folder name. RESTART INTO DOWNLOAD MODE and flash the AP 4.4.2... i dont know how to dumb this down anymore. no help/support will be offered for these until theres a final release and because I have literally no time ever maintaining so many threads and ROM's is tedious. if someone would like to make a video rather than asking me for one go for it I don't make videos my friend [MENTION=4246643]Tomsgt[/MENTION] is the best man for this and ive asked him already so hopefully soon but no promises.

enjoy, b**ch, or help I don't care what u do. but donate to a developer, XDA or me if your a fan before i take my services elsewhere and start forcing ransom :P

PS:

New Safestrap Flashable Files for 4.4.2 ROMs

this directory contains 3 zips so far that when flashed will either upgrade or downgrade all files except system,bootloaders and boot.img... so all you'll have to do is restart to download mode and flash boot.img in order to have full up or downgrade.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gigilie:
dont know that im the one that your referring to but yea been workin on a port of the kitkat version along with the 3 others above, foxhound,omega and another 1 i forget cause i jus got hi
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Glad to see ur working on Insane, bad ass Rom!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
Wouldn't this void knox?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gigilie:
its possible... i dont really know yet nothing else ive done has but im not 100% sure. im still in the process of figuring out how to unpack an repack these damn .ext4 files from windows.... sold my laptop with linux on it to make my house payment lol fml

(were talking about using an odin prerooted rom not this upgrade-downgrade method which ive flashed a ton of roms using and never triggered knox)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
So I saw u flashed Insane and u chose minimum with the patch. The next option is to select Verizon system or Roms system, which did u choose?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
why don't you just dualboot. I'm currently running windows 8.1 and Ubuntu 14.04. All I had to do was to make a bootable stick and choose "Install ubuntu Alongside windows"
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jake.99x3:
Can't find Phoenix download link or forum thread. If you could link me to it that would be great.

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Wifi did not work for me either when I used a 4.3 rom but as soon as I flashed back up to 4.4.2 that flashed the wifi fixer and nc2 modules it started working again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
http://tdroms.com/samsung-galaxy-note-ii/phoenix-rom-for-galaxy-s4-i9505/downloads
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Phoenix

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2349584

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Lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] todd3835:
Anyone else having sound issues after downgrading? My bootloader is NC2, but trying the NC2 modem/apnhlos has no luck. It was after trying to upgrade the NC5 stuff, but I'm still on NC2 BL. Going to try NC5 modem/APNHOLS next.

This is on Stock MK2, my wifi is working...... without modules oddly.....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
[MENTION=2357910]{davros}[/MENTION] Is this the ROM you are running now. Anything special I need from THIS thread first?

I'm running Surge's latest rooted NC5 ROM w/ SS 3.72 and the NC2 Bootloader.

Of course I would want to just run Phoenix in Stock side. I don't use the slots as they take up too much of my Internal SD space.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] todd3835:
So doing a stock restore to MK2 full system wipe fixed it. Not sure why it didn't the first time, but I'm gtg again =]
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ElijahD407:
When using Phoenix rom is everything working? I really want to try this but want to know if it's worth it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
U won't be disappointed, awesome Rom!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] diaftia:
I followed these directions:

If I installed the ROM Porter I got a black screen. So now I have installed your ROM (VZW_NC5_PREROOTED-gogolie.zip) and the NC5 Modules zip. At this point I have a red verizon boot logo and its been here for about 15 minutes.

We don't need to do step 7 again if coming from a failed flash, correct? Also, there was a cache file included in the AIO but is not mentioned in the directions above. Does this need to be flashed and might this be the reason I am getting this boot logo?

Thanks for the help!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Where did u get insane v7 because v8 will not flash.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] diaftia:
So just install the ROM then the NC5 modules?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
I'm running nc2 so not sure how the whole wifi thing will work on nc5. Let me know how it works.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ElijahD407:
I'm currently on MK2 I'm going to use use http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2726868 to upgrade to NC2 after that would i just be able to install phoenix rom just like that or would i have to follow instructions from this thread?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazepr:
Here is how I got Phoenix working with Wifi, GPS, and no MMS issues!!!:

(I am sure it will work with other roms as well on nc2. To get nc5 working i assume do it with the nc5 method)

I followed the steps to updating to NC2(w/o Bootloader) here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2726868

I then went into the prerooted NC2 and reboot.

Went into SS and installed Phoenix rom.

Installed jruse patch

Installed FN2/NC2 Modules

Installed SuperSU just incase

Rebooted System and now everything works

THIS GUY IS SUPER EXCITED NOW~ THANKS FOR YOUR HARD WORK
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] diaftia:
EDIT: Jrkruse patch can be found here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50913542
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Yes that patch
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] diaftia:
Does anyone else have the problem when updating to NC5 roms of Wifi not working? The toggle just slides back to off when I try to turn it on. I have tried The ROM from this thread, Sarge's and Phoenix. All have the same behavior. If I go back to MK2 it all works again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Yep every rom I try
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Oishikatta:
Oh I'm sorry, did you patent the process of rooting phones?

Claiming Surge did nothing but steal your ideas just strikes me as ridiculously pretentious.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] {davros}:
Gigilie hopefully these wifi issues will work then selves out. Lol

I should get back into deving and help out. I just have such a busy schedule lately. Ugh.

Nice work tho..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] diaftia:
For those wondering I installed NC2 and all modules except the BL. Wifi now works and GPS seems to work good too. Going to try this ROM with the patch and see how it goes:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2427629
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] inkdaddy66:
How can I tell what bootloader I'm on?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Oishikatta:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] inkdaddy66:
Build number and bootloader version are the same. So I'm on NC5. can I follow this root method?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Lets get the facts straight, I have no idea what method you use. Secondly the bootloaders are optional, I made it a fact to state that. The downgrade tar was never broken. You were the first to do what? This method wasnt pioneered by either of us. I certainly didnt copy anything from here.

Actually, [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] and co were first. You built a stock root rom? Your files worked and mine were broken? Which of the files that I made was broken? I didn't know any of my files were broken. So im catching up to your level...what level is that? The threaten ask for donations in every post and name all my files with my name in them level? This isn't and never was a competition to me, I don't care what method people use I was just informing people how I did it. I dont get what you are so worked up over. Im not trying to sway people away from your method or thread so I dont understand why you are so blatantly trying to put my thread down.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Thanks, Surge but actually [MENTION=833788]rebel1699[/MENTION] with your help and the help of [MENTION=2284570]ted77usa[/MENTION] [MENTION=2471504]jeboo[/MENTION] and others was the first to flash a 4.4 Custom ROM on a locked bootloader GS4 variant. Me and everyone else just built on their efforts and I eventually came up with the keeproot method so that we can continue to maintain root access on future ota updates. Most of what I have learned I have learned from you so pay no mind and keep doing great work!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
Not sure why this is called for, and I can say is it is very childish.

I have been following both threads, and after installing the NC2 leak when it first came out I did use the other threads instruction/method to downgrade and root. At that time I could understand the OP in the other thread and was having trouble following the OP in this thread. Since then I have downgraded and taken the OTA to NC5, then have stayed stock non-rooted. I will also continue to follow both threads for now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] todd3835:
This thread was he Daus before surge. Not that dirge hasn't done gray work on this phone, but this was the first place to get a working rooted kit kat rom.

On the other hand, Surge Dodd have the first working rooted STOCK rom I have seen.

The OP is just pointing out that people ate coming in here claiming the other thread is better or was first. Frankly, I use both sets of files, and frequent bourg threads.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ted77usa:
Is that really matter who's the first guys? BUT I can tell you this Without [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] and [MENTION=2471504]jeboo[/MENTION] that won't be Deadly-Venom-KitKat-Magic-Tool [released March 13,2014]....without DVKKMT there won't be kitkat roms for any S4 variant Period ..... so just be happy what we achieved so far. This is the whole Devs team for downgrade method to keep saferoot and fixed Wifi using bypasslkm Exploit [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] [MENTION=4939386]Surge1223[/MENTION] [MENTION=2471504]jeboo[/MENTION] [MENTION=833788]rebel1699[/MENTION] [MENTION=2924695]dave5777[/MENTION] [MENTION=4980764]Maribou[/MENTION] [MENTION=2982241]guut13[/MENTION] [MENTION=4631220]Venom0642[/MENTION] [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] All of them have put their worked, countless hours,trial and errors. If u want to be the first then find real root method for 4.4.2 without downgrading to 4.3 so we can have more development coming and would definitely help this great community alot. [emoji111][emoji41][emoji111]

"Quoted from OP"

☆Swyped From Venomous Droid Blue Chrome Edition☆
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] djmcho:
BORKED

I am trying to downgrade because i'm soft bricked. I downloaded ap_nc2-to-vzw-mk2.tar.md5 , bl_nc2-to-vzw-mk2.tar.md5 and cp_nc2-to-vzw-mk2.tar.md5 and placing them into the cooresponding bl/ap/cp slots but i'm getting MD5 hash errors in odin 3.10.

also tried odin 3.10 with included PIT for S4/VZW using the full wipe file called ...

ALL_I545VRUEMK2_I545VZWEMK2_1937946_REV06_user_low_ship_MULTI_CERT.tar.md5 (Which is 4.3/MK2)

check repartition and auto-reboot .. the phone is kicking back a REV SW error and odin fails on aboot.img. Looks like a safety to stop incorrect downgrading??? Looks like ever odin tar I use that's older then 4.4 gives me this SW REV error/aboot.img failure.

I am downloading the leaked 4.4 tar from sammobile.com but it's painfully slow and i'm not sure this will work either. I need a way to odin my phone with a 4.4 tar. I dont care if it's not rooted... I just need my phone back before 9am EST. I am a warehouse manager and we are re-inventoriing the entire warehouse. I need my phone, I can't not have a phone, I will be fired. Please help! :eek::eek::eek:

EDIT

VZW-MK2_4.3-FULL_DOWNGRADE-UPGRADE-NO-BOOTLOADERS-NO-SYSTEM.rar is giving me a winrar "end of file unexpected" error too....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
If you really need to use your phone, Odin one of these in Odin 3.09

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2735172
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] djmcho:
You are a life saver. Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] VECTUS:
Ok everyone. Calm Down. And take a breath... I think everyone has made their points and helped their egos enough (being FIRST here at XDA is like saying you were the first to see the sun BTW)... Everyone needs to go back to THEIR OWN threads and let this be... SO STOP IT.

If anyone is here for any OTHER reason than to SHARE and LEARN then you are here for the WRONG reasons. Read THIS please.

I consider this over and done with... You should too (that's free advice).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
I know I'm just excited!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jcratcliffe_:
Yup. And notice it doesn't say to create a slot. This means you're flashing everything over the stock side.

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I know. In the back of my mind I kinda want someone else to do it first but I also want to be the first one to do it!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
Hmm I wonder if you can restore the stock ROM to a ROM slot then run android 4.3 and 4.4 side by side
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jcratcliffe_:
You shouldn't because once you do 4.4 it should go over your whole system...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
Can you make a video on the process
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BJSerpas:
Admittedly, I'm not very clear on what's going on here; the OP's instructions were very unclear. Would you perhaps be able to clarify?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jcratcliffe_:
I will tonight guys. Just working until 5 then I got stuff to do till 8. Then I'll do it later guys. Promise. If anyone else had the balls to do it tell me ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] BJSerpas:
I might go ahead and try this myself tonight, actually. Is there a point of no return with this? Which is to say, is it possible for this to brick the device beyond fixing it with a simple ODIN flash? Otherwise, I have no problem backing up the whole thing and going through with this. If I hit a wall I'll just restore my device until someone with experience has a chance to look at everything.

Honestly, my phone is running so poorly at this point that I'm willing to try pretty much anything (of course, I'd love to be able to use this to get away from TW for good, but I suppose beggars can't be choosers :p)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
This thread is scaring the **** out of me but I can't help myself from not clicking on all the followup posts. :laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
So no luck for me when I try and flash the bundle zip (first one listed) it fails.

So I uninstalled SS and rebooted, installed SS 3.72 and booted into recovery.I then flashed Phoenix Rom and then tried to flash the bundle zip and it failed. Not sure what I'm doing wrong.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jcratcliffe_:
There is a slim chance of bricking
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Mine failed so if anyone else is able to get it make sure and post how u did it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
[MENTION=3618916]gigilie[/MENTION] can you check this out. [MENTION=2738236]shindiggity[/MENTION] did you try to flash the other 2 zips. From what I presume you can flash 1 of the 3 and it will work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
I flashed the first one and then I tried the last one, both failed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
What about the second one?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Jcratcliffe_:
Hrm you might want to message gigilie about this. I haven't had a chance to try so I don't know
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
Did you verify the md5's