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[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joebongo:
My main needs are:

1. Excellent GPS - Samsungs are universally crap and TomTom/Sygic/CoPilot always had me jumping around roads, forgetting where it was/which way the car was pointing when stuck in a jam etc. I just use TomTom now on my iPhone and whilst I hate iPhones their GPS/GLONASS implementation is excellent. Anyone used TomTom on a Z2? How did it fare? Both in dense urban situations and on highways and both on clear and cloudy days.

2. Loudspeaker - I do like to listen to radio in the shower and whilst I have no intention of ever taking a phone in there with me a good loudspeaker is a must. I heard the Z1 and possibly the Z2 had crappy loudspeakers due to waterproofing. Is this true? I'm not after a ghettoblaster but a good speaker is fairly important.

3. Camera - The iPhone 4S has a good camera. It opens quickly, HDR mode can cope with a moving toddler (my son rarely is still enough for other phones to cope with) and the camera can cope with shots where there is a window in there without just whiteing out the window area (l don't know the technical name for it but it's when the camera doesn't cope with light and darker areas well such as with the HTC One M8).

These are my main criteria and I'd like to know if the Z2 will meet my needs. It will be a big purchase for me and I can't afford to spend and lose money on a phone which doesn't do these functions well.

Everything else on the Z2 looks absolutely fantastic, just like the M8 and a Note 3 I had recently did except the M8 camera was truly awful (what were they thinking with that ultrapixel nonsense) and the Note 3 was terrible at GPS (five years on since the original Samsung Galaxy and the GPS was still like using a phone from 2005 when some phones didn't have true GPS).

I'd really value some honest opinions guys and gals!

Joe
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] numskull:
1. Sorry dont really have much use for gps n only got phone this morning so untested

2. Right then, while i wouldnt say the speakers are crap they aren't the loudest, they do sound good tho.... im no audiophile but to me they sounded clear they just didnt go loud enough (altho i wouldnt rule out some form of volume increase app coming along for rooted users at some point) I havent tested the noise cancelling headphones yet but have heard they are very good. On a side note i received a free sont srs btx300 speaker, if you can get one thrown in then its well worth it. Maybe worth noting that altho the low volume may be caused by waterproofing you could keep it closer in the shower so it may not seem that quiet

3. dont know about hdr, ive yet to look at all the camera settings... but there is something called time burst while will 60 shots in 2 seconds, not tested it but read about it, apparently it starts shooting when you open it and it saves the 30 pics from 1 second before pressing shutter and 30 from 1 second after, you then pick the best one(s), should be perfect for capturing a toddler
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chesterr:
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[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mushtafa:
I have to say I'm pretty disappointed by the speakers, thought they would be a lot louder.

The noise cancelling headphones are brilliant though, very clear, and good amount of bass.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keyz86:
A first I did think the speakers were pretty awful in comparison to the M8 however, once I enabled xLOUD from the Sound Enhancement settings it became very comparable!

As for the photos, I regularly take photos of skateboarding and the Timeshift Burst feature on the Sony phones is brilliant for moving shots. Like the other guy said, it constantly buffers the first 30 images while the app is open and then takes another 30 after you press the shutter, you'll always get a handful of great shots at the perfect moment!

As for GPS, I don't drive, but my phone is used as the sat nav whenever I'm in a friends car. I've only ever used Google Maps but I have to say it works flawlessly. Always accurate and very easy to use.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zodiac100:
The speakers are just fine. Only the m8 beats it for loudness and quality. It's louder than the m7 which was all the rage last year so can't see what the problem is. The speakers on the z2 get the job done and pretty well too especially while watching videos and gaming.

As for the camera, it's to put it simply, only bettered perhaps by the lumia 1020. It takes the most amazing 8mp shots with so much detail it's hard to accept they're actually 8mp snaps. Colour reproduction is frightfully accurate with excellent dynamic range. Crank up the resolution and things noticeably degrade in quality in every respect mostly focusing. The shots are still to notch but just not as good as the truly incredible 8mp snaps.

Never had any problems with gps on any Sony device but the z2's seems better than that on the z. The weather app picks up my location exactly while that on the z was more general.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyneverdie:
Since when do samsungs's GPS's suck?!

All the notes, S s, and even some of the budget phones I handled NAILED GPS co-ordinates/Google maps etc!

I travel..off-road too...and heavily rely on GPS.

How have you arrived at such a conclusion or your just a hater?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] corallus:
In regards to Sammy gps, I had galaxy s 1 2 & 3, and found the gps took a long time to lock on to satellites but when they did they were very accurate.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stress40:
How is the Z2's volume when the phone is in your pocket? Just asking cause I work in a loud environment, also, how does the antenna perform when in a building ( like in the middle of a warehouse or basement of shopping centre or department store)? Thanks for the info guys :good:

Pre- ordered on 8/3 and still waiting lol....
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joebongo:
The samsungs I've had (the first galaxy and a note 3) were terrible with gps and had me in fields or parallel roads and generally were unusable. Maybe I just had two duff units but looking on the web there were also many people having gps accuracy issues for driving on both models.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vivftp:
One of my friends got his Note 3 a couple months ago (he's a long time iPhone user) and we were headed out to meet someone. We were using the GPS on his Note, and for some reason the damned thing was off by a 1-2 intersections! I whipped out my Xperia Z Ultra, and it was spot on for our location.

Dunno what was going on with his Note 3, but damn it sucked. He mentioned that he had run into similar problems with it in the past, so it wasn't a one-off thing either.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyneverdie:
Hmmm...never heard that before. The Note 3 rocks!

I assure you that his phone has some serious issues....it should be pin sharp accuracy.

Dying for a Z ultra 2 btw....

With a damn flash/torch!
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vicedens2002:
Does the videos get recorded in mono or stereo? What's the fps while recording in 720p?
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sdfgsteve:
Remember that map apps use an algorithm where it assumes you are continuing on the road it's telling you to go on, assuming that any deviation between the position from the GPS and the real location is due to drift. So it might not be as bad as you think.
[Xperia Z2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] systoxity:
I've also had regular problems with my note 3 gps. So sketchy and unreliable. Anyway here's hoping the z2's is better. Hope this thing hurries up and releases in the states!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] heymixter:
Just wondering if anyone can tell me of a working link to download the kltetmo_UVU1ANCH_deodex.zip rom? All the download links give me a javascript error message. thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] heymixter:
bump

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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] undercover nerd:
I had to dl it from my cpu my phone wouldnt dl it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] undercover nerd:
I got the rom but have no idea how to send it it's a big file too like 1gig
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] em0ney14:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2720382
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] wearingblack90:
Hi body,I need dual boot kernel for my i9205,I want to flash a official ROM and a cm11.tnx
[HTC Tornado] perlom:
what is the best GPS software to run on i-mate SP5? Did any body has any commments on iGuidance software?

Thanks
[HTC Tornado] p2daz:
I don't know about best but Tom Tom for me - no problems
[HTC Tornado] perlom:
Did you have to install an additional plug in for Tom Tom in order to have it running on i-mate SP5? I heared you have to switch your phone on and off every time you use it!!
[HTC Tornado] p2daz:
No plugins and don't have to switch the phone on/off to use it, although i did have to install the 5.2 update, runs perfect mate.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] coctostan:
I have a Sprint HTC One running Viperone 5.8.0 and I can't seem to get S-OFF to work.

It is on HBoot 1.44 and I get an error when running Revone. It is my understanding that only Revone will work with the older HBoot. Do I need to put an old room on first? I'm rooted obviously.

Any advice is appreciated.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Maromi:
Shouldn't you be making backups before flashing.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
Yeah, but I think that's a given.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] juanfers:
Will surely try this later on tonight.

The link to the minisystem img file is a 404
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] LinearEquation:
Flashing a ROM with no disaster recovery or at least a backup is risky. [MENTION=5070014]Mineturtle33[/MENTION] do you have a source code for this? It's a nice start though. That tablet may get a full makeover yet.

Edit: If there is a source code available.

Sent From Kindle Fire HD 7 running CM 11 4.4.2
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] stunts513:
The 2013 has a method to recover to stock, making backups its useless though because the system image is too big for fastboot's buffer, hence we have a weird recovery procedure. This is interesting, I'll have to check how big the system.img is out of curiosity.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
The image is 1.22 GB

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
No source for the ROM, but I believe there is for the minisystem.img. Feel free to modify/redistribute this as much as you'd like.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
Fixed the 404 error. Sorry about that.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
We have a recovery method.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] SafinWasi:
Well,not quite. Gran PC found something called "fastboot multiflash" which allows you to flash ridiculously large system images. I don't know how it really works. You can check it out in his Google Plus post.

Sent from a piece of KitKat
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
The reason I use the minisystem to dd the system.img to /system instead of fastboot flashing is because the img file can't fit in the fastboot buffer. [MENTION=5609616]Anonymous.123[/MENTION]

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slim_s200:
Hi,

I've try to upgrade my kindle, but when I connect it with fastboot cable the system (Win7 32bit) configure it like Adb Android but the command adv devices not recognize any.

I also try with on Ubuntu 13.10 and also here the adb devices not recognize any.

Can you send me the driver you have used to install ?

Thanks a lot.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
First of all. Make sure adb is on in settings. Secondly. You don't need adb until you install minisystem with fastboot. Use Ubuntu. I do not give drivers support for windows. [MENTION=868519]slim_s200[/MENTION]

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] stunts513:
o.0 this is interesting i looked it up on google, very interesting way to implement that, if what i read is that same, then fastboot on the pc would split it up into several segments and then send them in multiple flashes. Thats pretty cool.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
When you plug it in with a fastboot cable, you don't need adb commands, and adb won't see it. You need to use fastboot commands.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] NickSaul:
This is great!

Would you mind posting some screenshots of the AOSP settings and status/nav bars?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] bryanchapman9999:
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the advantage does this have over CM11?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] SafinWasi:
Well,none. But at least it is better than the stock Amazon OS. And by better I mean REALLY good? .

Sent from a piece of KitKat
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slim_s200:
Thanks for your reply, but, I've ask fot the drivers because when I've try to type the fastboot command it returned the error "File minisystem,bin" not found!

I've check the path, but this is ok, /storage/sdcard0/FILE.bin and also try /sdcard/FILE.bin nothing change, any ideas?

Thanks.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Nice work!

How did you get the AOSP settings?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slim_s200:
Excuse my ignorance, buy the CM11 is it compatible with kfsowi 2013 ?

Thanks a lot,

Antonio
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slim_s200:
Ok,

I've undestand where my error, now I able to send the boot-prod.img and the minisytem.img, now the device boot with the message "Booted succesfully!"

but now the adb shell report error: device not found !

And I can't go to next step.

On Win7 the device is recognized like MTP USB DEVICE and not like ADB, can it is the problem?

I've also try with ubuntu and with seven.

also adb devices report no devices attached.

Now my Kindle not start :(
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Hey. Is the amazon Video prime working? Or is it removed?

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Amazon Apps doesnt work with installed Google Framework/Play ...
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Thats wrong my friend.;) i have gapps and im using the prime Video on my Kindle.

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[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Oh yes. Sorry I use Amazon Video too.

But the Amazon App-Shop doesnt work, right? ;)
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Yes. Because the Gapps replaces the amazon stuff.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] maglat:
I'm interessted in this, too. I still cant belive it's finally possible to install custome rom to my new kindle fire 7 2013/2014 edition! many thanks for the hard work and research!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
There is no bin file. It is a .img I don't know what your issue is. [MENTION=868519]slim_s200[/MENTION]

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta-2 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
The advantage is that it runs on a device that doesnt have cm11 yet.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta-2 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
This is the only ROM for 2013 kindles.

However, Gran PC is working on safestrap/second boot loader. When that's done, cm11 from me will be ready. ;

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta-2 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
You need to remove all drivers from your windows system, install the adb drivers from Amazon's website, and then try. I don't use windows ever, so bear with me. I'm trying g to help you as best as I can.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta-2 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] LinearEquation:
There is no CM for the 2013 Soho KFHD at the moment. Don't get this confused with the 2012 or you'll end up with a hard brick.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Just curious, but did you execute the commands with su rights in Ubuntu?

Is adb or USB debug turned on?

HTC K2_PLC_CL
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slim_s200:
Hi,

thanks for support, yes, I've execute the command with sudo rights and I can't turn on ADB and USB DEBUG because there is not the possibility to run kindle OS.

I've the kindle blocked on "Booted succesfully!" and I'm not able to send the system with adb shell !!

Please, help me at least to recovery the original Kindle's OS

Thanks.
[MENTION=5070014]Mineturtle33[/MENTION]

---------- Post added at 09:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:48 AM ----------

[MENTION=5070014]Mineturtle33[/MENTION] Excuse me, is possibile my problem is because the ADB was off first to send minisystem to the kindle?

Now I've the kindle blocked on "Booted succesfully!" and I'm not able to send the system with adb shell !!

Please, help me at least to recovery the original Kindle's OS
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
Can you get into fastboot?

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta-2 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Mineturtle33:
Debuging and adb are on by default in the minisystem. The problem is your computer.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta-2 ROM
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mikle_01:
minisystem link won't work.... :crying:

EDIT

: Sorry - now it's working
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slim_s200:
[MENTION=5070014]Mineturtle33[/MENTION]

I've try 3 pc and Yes, I can get into fastboot

The pc with linux must work with ADB, there is not driver problem with linux right?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] daverob25:
You can always put your Kindle back to stock using Gran-PC's firerooter restore tool and then make sure your PC can see your device via adb before trying again.

https://peniscorp.com/firerooter/
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] maglat:
Do you think Gran PC is able to develop a safestrap/second boot loader für Kindle 2013?:fingers-crossed: Or is it just a theory at the moment.

I really appreciated the hard work you are doing guys! :highfive:
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slim_s200:
I've contact Gran PC, he has send me a beta minisystem.img that have resolved me the trouble of ADB not recognized and finally I was able to install the Water rom beta 2
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] phordych05:
I can just flash this coming from cm11 right...just wipe everything...????...and same thing if I want to return to cm11...???...thanks in advance... ?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] xWolf13:
don't forget to do a back up!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] :
Stop! I think u have the wrong tablet, if u have cm11 installed! This Rom is for Kindle fire HD 7 3. Generation (KFSOWI) only! And the kfsowi havent cm11.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 4 mit Tapatalk
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] am486:
As Kollachi said it's a very bad idea to flash this ROM, it will brick your tablet, it's not for your Kindle version.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] LinearEquation:
Got a paperweight yet? This is for the Soho not Tate. Don't flash it on anything except the 2013 KFHD7 which is also the only KFHD with no camera and no HDMI output. If you have those, this is not for your tablet.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] SafinWasi:
The device you have is a Kindle Fure HD 2012 aka "Tate". This rom is for the 2013 "soho" model. Don't flash it on Tate.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] xWolf13:
Why is it then posted here?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Nvm then.

HTC K2_PLC_CL
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] mint-an:
No, its the correct section.

Xda won't give us our own subforum.

And this one contains all 7" screen kindles.

And : [rom] [kfsowi 2013] kindle water beta 1

kfsowi 2013

and in the 1st post: 11.3.2.1 (stock rom version)

Flashing this rom on the wrong device without using brain.exe.....
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Krsmqn:
Yeah, my bad. I was thinking hdx for some reason.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] yunowork:
I'm about to get my 3rd gen KFHD in the next couple of days but before possibly bricking it i do have a couple of question:

1) I read about the bootloader being locked and therefor making it currently impossible to flash the device, how exactly do you flash the alternative rom, if it can even be considered as such.

2) If not a fully independent rom but just a rooted image with launcher and such, does the system work without any gapps or apex launchers or any other closed source software, basically as bare AOSP if apps are removed from /system?

3) If a fully independent rom with unlocked bootloader, it should be no or not a big problem to flash the CM11 image for KFHD 8.9 on it since the core components are more or less identical except for screen resolution and bluetooth (which should work anyhow but without crypto depending on the chip i assume).

I am just a bit confused and even reading the entire thread i am not quite sure as to how this should be seen, since it sounds more like quick and dirty alternative than a real solution, no offense.
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] juanfers:
The ones that have flashed this, did you guys buy a fastboot cable or make your own? Whatever the answer which would you recommend?
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] vsguru:
juanfers, I just flashed this today and I used a fastboot cable I bought from eBay for $4, it came from China and took about 10 days. I had some issues, mostly with my expectations of using the fastboot cable, but it all worked out perfectly and I have root, no ads, no Amazon auto updates, Google Apps and Play store.and the Amazon App store and more. I could have made the cable but wasn't in a big rush and didn't want to end up hacking an existing cable. Good luck!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] maglat:
I'm interested in the answers for these questions, too :o
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] QDT:
My experience

I got the KFSOWI for my GF to track our wedding plans and other activities.

Of course I was interested in handling over the full CM based device and sadly learned that currently is not possible.

But at least thanks to Kindle Water the system is working nicely with Google Store and we can install all required apps.

After a day of using (got it yesterday, had to make the fastboot cable first) I've following comments/questions.

Google Maps is not functioning claiming that it require data connection while is fully connected to wifi.

Amazon AppStore is crashing (exiting) after several seconds of using it.

It is annoying that disabling the original FireOS navbar removes the Menu functionality from any other navbar mod - you can force to display the Menu Button but is not working on Play Store, as an example.

Why the FireOs recent apps list (accessible via slide-up) is showing no content?

How to run the original FireOS apps - I would like to use my Prime Video access (just for fun), or the original Amazon browser Silk.

Kudos for the OP to provide such great alternative system for Kindle Fire HD 3rd Gen!
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] slixz85:
is there a way to just use adb or dd instead of having to use a fastboot cable? Like how you can run a manual update with adb or something anyway. thanks
[7" Kindle Fire HD Android Development] Velrix:
Just wanted to post I did this to my wife's Kindle. Everything was working fine but after reboots I notice sometimes the wallpaper gets all crazy. I have to disable the "My Kindle Wallpaper" every time after reboot. The keyboard also quit working and would randomly pop up and disappear. I was able to install Swiftkey from the Play Store and that issue has stopped. Just figure I would post my results. Other than that everything is rolling smooth. Hopefully we get TWRP or CWM soon so I'm not so scared of this baby going poof lol.