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[Xperia Z2 General] nikola1970:
Can you show us proofs of your screen being too dim? Picture it. I am curious to see how it looks like.
[Xperia Z2 General] TheOnlyIntruder:
I'd just like to add though, for the comparison to be fair, please make sure each device has the same wallpaper, the colour contrasts could be adding to the effect of the Z2 looking dimmer (but that aspect is subjective).
[Xperia Z2 General] Kmac_thp:
So true. I put LuxLite on my M8 because it was blinding at night, its still too bright.
[Xperia Z2 General] Chad_Petree:
So the verge seems to agree, they just posted their review and said "Take the Z2 outside and you’ll be confronted by its biggest shortcoming: it’s practically unusable on a sunny day. Even with brightness maxed out, half of my sample photos for this review were composed through guesswork due to the screen being too dim and reflective to provide any useful information outdoors. This vampiric aversion to sunlight is somewhat forgivable on the Z2 Tablet — which is less likely to be used on the move — but is basically a deal-breaker on the Z2" I gotta to say I'm a bit worried now :(
[Xperia Z2 General] norti:
Still we haven't seen any proof yet how the screen dim is and how "unusable" it is under direct sunlight...
[Xperia Z2 General] Paperinik68:
Garbage. Took Easter pictures with the phone yesterday. Super bright day in the Bay Area, phone brightness maxed out at 1/2 and I was able to easily compose my pictures. I don't feel the need to defend the phone, but I do hate misleading crap.
[Xperia Z2 General] numskull:
i agree, was outside today n could see my screen fine, and it set on auto, im not too bothered anyway im a night person

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i agree, was outside today n could see my screen fine, and it set on auto, im not too bothered anyway im a night person
[Xperia Z2 General] cdd543:
Glad to hear some people with the device debunking these comments about it being unusable outside. I've ordered one myself and was pretty concerned after reading that.
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
hey man you really need to take this kind of scare mungering with a pinch of salt and chill out....:cool:
[Xperia Z2 General] chinedu40:
Agreed.

I am back home in London, and i literally have no idea what Vlad is referring to here. The screen brightness is good and reviewing angle even more so, I mean who reads stuff from their phone at >180 degrees? Each to their own i guess
[Xperia Z2 General] AirSupply:
I have the anti-finger print (mate material) screen protector on my phone, and I can still clearly see it under sun light. It is not that bright like the M7 but still usable.
[Xperia Z2 General] mushtafa:
I have to say, it's not as bright as I hoped it was going to be. I would say it looks very similar to an iPhone 5.

It is very dim compared to the M8 and S5 though.
[Xperia Z2 General] soulreaver99:
I disagree with the Verge review. First off, what kind of a-hole combines two different devices into a single review? That is just pure laziness and it shows on how it is written. And finally I live in Southern California where the sun shines bright and I have no issues using the phone outdoors under direct sunlight. It is no worse nor any better than its competitors such as the iPhone 5S, HTC One M8 and the Nexus 5 which I own all of them.
[Xperia Z2 General] mujj:
Having used a One X+ for the past year and half, I've gotten used to a slightly higher baseline on auto-brightness. How does the Z2 fair?
[Xperia Z2 General] hanano17:
I'll compare it to my moto x when I get it later this week. I live in Florida, so its pretty sunny a lot and I don't a problem with reading my moto x set on auto. I'll see how the z2's auto is and post what i'm seeing.
[Xperia Z2 General] anirudhks:
the phone is not as bright as Z1 , as I own the both . but its not true that in sunlight yu cannot use it , its very well back light to use it in the sun
[Xperia Z2 General] theclueless:
first of all, the screen is not as bright as i would like, you can see fine (just not awesome) under extreme bright sunlight, as long as you dont get the glare, my Z1 is better at this department.

however, the Z2 falls short when the light reflects off the screen in an angle, then the entire screen is pretty much illegible, but tilting the screen to be perpendicular to your eyes and it immediately solved the issue. again, Z1 is better at this department.

at last, i completely disagree with the Verge review.
[Xperia Z2 General] DennisDD78:
I also gave back to the store my Z2. Screen is really awful, like on the picture on the first page. And moreover, my ex Z2 had a gaps in chasis and furthermore, when i found out that only one speaker works when incoming call it was the last strawand i decided to return the divice in store.

I do not know what's next, Z3 maybe..
[Xperia Z2 General] MohJee:
Sony will never get the display right, which is the single most important thing in a smart phone bar none. If it's bad, then it doesn't matter if it has 5.0 ghz processor, 5000 mah battery and the best build quality.
[Xperia Z2 General] nikola1970:
^ stop talking crap. Z2 display is on the top of smartphone displays, if not the best one.
[Xperia Z2 General] jayc1980:
I dont get how people are saying this display is dim. Yes I come from the G2 and the display is not quite as bright but it is definitely very bright!
[Xperia Z2 General] napkun:
I just received my Z2 yesterday from Taiwan and had a little chance to play around with it. I don't understand how people are saying it's too dim. Unless you're wearing sunglasses while looking at the screen then there's really no concern about the readability in the daytime. I've never seen the M8 or S5 in person so I can't comment on the claims of them being brighter but that's all relative anyways. So what if the Z2 isn't as bright as those other two devices? Is everything a d*** measuring contest with these phones? It's full capable of being read in the sunlight
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Compared to my old and current new phone I found the display much more washed out and grey, as well as dim.
[Xperia Z2 General] kurtisnet:
Washed out part made me lmao. Troll detected.
[Xperia Z2 General] mushtafa:
The display isn't bad. But, it isn't the brightest I've seen. It's better than my HTC Sensation, on par with an iPhone 5, and dimmer than the M8 and S5.

I had hoped it would've have been better but it's acceptable. The display shouldn't be a deal breaker for anyone

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[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Wow, you guys are REALLY defensive.

It seems anyone that has anything negative to say against the phone is a "troll" or a "fanboy" and is instantly open to rude advise.

A question was asked and people are answering with their own honest opinion, if you can't handle it, then don't loom at threads where a negative opinion might be posted.

I had the handset for 3 days and jumped ship due to many inferior aspects and frustrations. This doesn't make me a troll or fanboy, it makes me a normal guy who didn't find the handset was right for him.

I love the build of the phone physically and the external speakers where fantastic, but I found the display dark and washed out and ear phone sound quality to have problems with bass when voice or instrumental was being played.

The only way to get good sound was to turn the volume right down so it was almost inaudible.

Don't like this honest review, then get odd the forum. Calling people tells etc is childish and rude.
[Xperia Z2 General] TheOnlyIntruder:
So, you thought the screen was dim and grey, well I'd like to direct you to this photo:-

In this photo you can see the HTC One X and the Xperia Z2, both phones have the same background set and both screens were set to max brightness.

As you can see, the HTC One X is looking slightly washed out and over bright where as the Z2 has very good contrast.

(More photos here http://imgur.com/a/1xuPe#0zFKIk2

Your opinions are receiving negative feedback simply because your displaying far too much bias and little, well, no evidence.

Audio I can understand is a little difficult to truly understand and compare, one user loves to have deep bass while another prefers pristine clarity but I've replied to the other thread regarding what you may have done wrong.

I don't think this is a matter of people being defensive it's more about being accurate which your opinions show little of being.
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Compared to my s3 and now s5 the display is washed out on auto. I shouldn't have to put it on full brightness to get the same result as on my other phones on auto.

Is not just me, anyone with a negative review is getting crap from you guys. Seems to me your all over defensive and not welling to accept anyone's personal findings.
[Xperia Z2 General] mujj:
Could it be that you just enjoy high saturation. With my One X+ I enjoyed the screen on that more than I did the S4. Even though the S4 was brighter, I enjoyed the more realistic colours more.

I don't have Z2 yet so I can't comment on it, but does anyone ever use full brightness?

Anyways to each their own.
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Could be mate. The comments I made are regarding personal experience and everyone is different in what they prefer.
[Xperia Z2 General] Jiyeon90:
The Z2 surely looks totally washed out compared to the amoled screen (sarcasm)

http://m.imgur.com/a/6P58M

Sent from my Xperia Z1
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Right. Any information on what song ate being used on the displays there or your just going to leave it with no information?

Going by my own personal experience that is not how the display looked against my s3.
[Xperia Z2 General] hamad138:
Guys I got my hands on the Z2.

Display isnt that dim, but what is more annoying is the reflect of the Front glass, it is immense. Have fun outdoors its almost impossible to read, if u can live with that fine but im sure 90% cant.

The displays white is actually bad for a LCD but other colours looks punchy.

I hope I could help u
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Hmm, your right, but I don't find the screen glare worse than any other device, but the color tone doesn't help.
[Xperia Z2 General] TheOnlyIntruder:
The purpose of full brightness is not for general use but to display the differences in contrast and colour saturations.

I am still however waiting for you to submit some evidence (since you've yet to submit any at all and is fundamentally why people are having a hard time believing anything you say) because all you're saying are your opinions from memory

see? When you speak from memory, especially with something you liked (if you liked it) you can be describing it with rose tinted spectacles on and that's how bias is created. Show us what you mean! It'll be helpful! In the meantime till then, here are some comparison photos I've taken.

In these photos, you'll see that there is the Galaxy SIII Mini, HTC One X and Xperia Z2, I've also taken these photos with the following settings: - Full brightness, lowest brightness and automatic. I know these phones aren't comparisons with flagship models but at least it gives a basis of comparison with different brands. My personal experience would have me think that the One X had a really great screen and I didn't think screens could get much better but I've been blown away by this Z2

Full Brightness

As you can see, in this image, the One X doesn't do too well with the Z2 showing the clearest colours, contrasts and brightness with the SIII Mini behind it. In direct sunlight you would probably see the SIII Mini easier but the colours and shades aren't as vibrant as the Z2

Lowest Brightness

At the lowest brightness, you can clearly see that the Z2 has the dimmest brightness level with the SIII mini having the highest but I'd probably have to say that the One X here is slightly better, the SIII is just too bright here and lacks definition with the whites. As for the Z2, it retains it's colour vibrancy but the dark areas of the image are just too difficult to see.

Automatic Brightness

Well, for the automatic test I have two photos to try and show how the automatic brightness changes the screens.

The first auto photo shows similar brightness and contrasts to the dimmest settings however the second photo in a more natural light really does help gauge the screen differences, advantages and disadvantages.

The SIII mini clearly is definitely overbright washing out colours, it's fairly unusal to see the dark areas of the screen to have that "backlight bleed look" considering it's an AMOLED screen, the One X retains a good balance overall but just simply doesn't compare to the colour richness and detail of the Z2.

That's a really good comparison, (wish I could set up my comparisons just as good heh) S4 having very similar contrasts with the Z2 when looked at direct but at a different viewing angle loses contrast with the One M8 have different results entirely.
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
It's my personal opinion simple as that. Your entitled to disagree by all means but there are many who agree and disagree with me and some who are just being all out rude because they can't take criticism of the device they own.

Again, I'm not on about proving my point, but rather stating what I found in my own opinion.

Posting a comparison picture with no other info is pointless and won't change my mind after I have seen myself what the device is like.

This is getting silly now and your counter argument is getting longer and less valid, particularly as you continue to argue about points I have never said are fact, but my own opinion upon using the device myself.
[Xperia Z2 General] strommy1966:
in daily use indoors, the screen is fine! but its when you take the phone outside on a bright day i find its not vivid enough. but what i don't understand is i find it really hard to read text in the daylight and things like that , but watch a video or look at pictures outside in the same light, it seems to be great ! really bright and vibrant and you can actually see it properly i don't understand why this would be the case? can anybody explain why this might be ?
[Xperia Z2 General] GigabitEthernet:
Is it normal to be able to see the digitiser in direct sunlight?

I've never experienced this on my Moto X...
[Xperia Z2 General] Warkman:
well, I have just moved from a Samsung S3, I use a company iPhone and to be perfectly honest, neither of them is any good in daylight, sun and bright conditions to look at the screen.

the Z2 is no worse than those two phones
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Yeah I find that too. Indoors you find varying differences, but outdoors they are all pretty difficult to see in sunny conditions.
[Xperia Z2 General] Jono8:
I am returning my handset as well because the screen is very underwhelming. It is pretty useless on anything under 75% brightness ( so auto brightness is useless) and outdoors I cant see anything other than the bloody digitiser grid! I can even see the grid outline on white/light background when in a dark room as well. It is far too visible and I have never witnessed it on any other phone before.

I agree with the chap who says it looks washed out because he is correct. On anything less than 75% brightness it is too dim and washed out. My HTC One (m7)'s screen is much brighter and more vibrant.

I am on my second as I though the first one I had was faulty but the replacement is exactly the same so it is going back.

Shame as the phone's specs are brilliant and it feels very well made. It is uncomfortable to hold though as the magnetic charging dock thing gets in the way of your finger.

bottom line: not impressed and the screen simply is not good enough.
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Yeah, it was me that said that, but ssh, you'll be branded a troll as I have for staying your identical findings to me ;).

I agree, the specs are outstanding, which left me underwhelmed and frustrated when I got the device.

I'm on the s5 now, but to be honest, that doesn't feel much of an upgrade from my s3 other than faster processor and more memory. Battery still drains at about the same rate after all my mods are complete lol.
[Xperia Z2 General] mujj:
I had a few questions.

I was reading this:

http://www.digitalversus.com/mobile-phone/samsung-galaxy-s5-vs-sony-xperia-z2-display-quality-compared-n34019.html

It says that the M8 is much better than the two on quality. It also says that the Z2 is brighter than the S5.

Since I don't have the phone yet I was curious had a few questions about the phone.

1. What do you mean when you say 'washed out'?

2. When the brightness is above 75% does it not look washed out anymore?

3. Since you said that the magnetic dock makes in uncomfortable in the hand, is that the only gripe about comfort? Is the size and shape alright?

4, What did you decide to get instead?

Thanks in advance
[Xperia Z2 General] Jono8:
1. Dim, unvribrant, think more watercolour than oil painting.

2. Not as much, above 75% it is better and I think that the washed out look is mainly because the screen isn't bright enough so the screen reflects light too much.

3. Size is ok, shape is a little awkward but I would have lived with this if the screen wasn't so dreadful.

4. I had thought about an S5. I tried one and the screen is stunning but I have now decided to wait a few more months as nothing is much of a step up from my HTC One. Waiting for something with a snapdragon 805 in it and quad HD resolution
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
I agree apart from point 3, I found the size and build shape great. Imo of I could have an s5, in a z2 casing it would be one kick ass phone!
[Xperia Z2 General] hamad138:
[MENTION=1007992]everyone[/MENTION] who says we are htc fanboys, go buy Z2 we wont stop u, go ahead and buy and live with the screen.
[Xperia Z2 General] mujj:
Thanks

I have the One X+ atm and if the screen is comparable on brightness I'll be more then happy. Normally I would have gone with the M8 since I'm a big fan of HTC, but this time round I want to try something different and some of the specs of the m8 dissapointed me. The pros of the Z2 outweighed the M8 and the S5.

(M8)

Pros

- Good design (even though I preferred the m7 design)

- Big fan of Sense UI

- Great speakers

Cons

- Small battery

- Size not justified by screen size

- Poor camera

- And I was a little let down by updates on the One X+

(S5)

Pros

- Great camera (probably the best of the three)

- Vibrant screen

- Bigger battery

- Waterproofing

- Removable battery

Cons

- Design (No thanks)

- Touchwiz (Can be replaced, but still no thanks)

- Gimmicks

(Z2)

Pros

- Good camera

- Good design

- Xperia UI is light

- Biggest battery

- Waterproofing

- Front facing speakers (2nd to the m8)

- Most ram

- Dedicated camera button

Cons

- A little big and less rounded

- Screen slightly dim

- Reports of overheating

Even though the screen is more vibrant on the S5 and the speakers better on the M8, the Z2 pros kinda outweigh it in my opinion.
[Xperia Z2 General] plonkersaurus:
I think plenty of us have and are happy with the screen. That said, I guess it depends where you live and how you use your phone.

Personally it's the first phone I've had that you don't need to worry about, it's just there ready to do whatever I want it to do (battery life is amazing) and you don't even have to worry about getting it wet.

I'm not sure what the other options are for a high end phone seeing as S5 cameras are failing and the HTC is still stuck with the failed ultrapixel concept.
[Xperia Z2 General] Hamza Murad:
Right, so reading all this @#%$#%! About how dim the screen is-in my opinion- brightness DOES NOT matter. I have the xperia P with a 1000nit display and an s3 which has nearly 1/3 of that. Outside the s3 is more visible. The brightness does play a part in visibility but is not all that matters. Unless you have corenea or intend to use the screen as a flashlight (which my p is great at) brightness should not matter.
[Xperia Z2 General] TheOnlyIntruder:
Take a look at my posts, I've come from a One X and I can certainly say the Z2 just smashes the One X to pieces, if you look at my last post in this thread you can actually see the difference in screen quality between the One X and Z2 as I made a direct comparison.

As for overheating issues, I don't know if this was something to do with early production models or the released version but I haven't had any problems with overheating so far (I've yet to stress the phone) but I have tried recording a 4k video, I got to 5 minutes with no problems and so far my phone hasn't heated up more than my One X did for example when playing videos in software mode in MX Player for example, my One X would get quite hot, and if on charge as well would overheat, Z2 has had no problems in this regard.

Hope this helps :)
[Xperia Z2 General] hamad138:
thats the reason why Z2 isnt usable outside, because the glass is a freaking mirror + dim brightness
[Xperia Z2 General] sdfgsteve:
Has anyone tried a matte screen protector? Surely that would mitigate some of the reflection.
[Xperia Z2 General] KevinB88:
I am coming from a s3 and if s3 has better screen then z2 for you, you are a troll or your screen is faulty.

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[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Really, are we going to go through this again.

Please read the comments since I payed that. You'll notice there are others who feel the same as you and others the same as me. We ate not all trolling if we are finding the same results.

The arrogance of some people is seriously astounding.
[Xperia Z2 General] feis:
Lol you were even proved wrong by wonderful comparison by some members, still you insist that its your opinion and you have a right. Ok whatever, you are tech guru, you know it better than all of us, z2 screen is peace of ****. Can you leave this forum now? Cause you spend all your time in it starting arguments AND YOU DONT EVEN OWN THE PHONE ANYMORE. Go to your phones forum, discuss, enjoy, just leave this one please, you told everything you wanted to.
[Xperia Z2 General] KevinB88:
I just told you the only two possibilities :) and some people only see the fanboy. I can see that you are a less lucky one than me because my display isn't dim, good to see under direct sunlight and best natural color I've ever seen. Every technic should get a second or third chance but most people see that it isn't good one time and never try it again.

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[Xperia Z2 General] mujj:
:'( All this talk, I just want the phone already
[Xperia Z2 General] riso123:
Or this guy.

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Sorry mate. I'm not saying your wrong, I'm saying you have the same opinion as me, but are not getting flamed like I am. Seems people on the forum don't understand the difference between opinion and fact.
[Xperia Z2 General] edge3uk:
Seriously where's the mod in this forum??
[Xperia Z2 General] ApriliaM3:
Perhaps they're trying to enjoy their weekend with their families rather than dealing with the childish bickering going on here...

Thread closed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] vince2398:
Is anyone experiencing a warm back with s5 especially after a reboot? Is goes up to 99 degrees F and drains the battery but nothing else is running. Anyone know the cause? Thx in advance.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] hlb3:
I haven't noticed any unusually high temps, it runs about as hot as my Note 2 would under similar situations.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] vince2398:
Ok, do you know what the temperature would be under normal use? Wondering if I need to exchange mine which I don't want to do.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] hlb3:
I've been emailing and browsing XDA for the last 20 minutes and its been sitting right around 85*F every time I've checked on it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] natefish:
Have you checked what apps are running? I've noticed some warming when I have used the camera or internet extensively, but nothing like my GS3 used to.