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[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
It's the same for Spark/LTE so you never know lol. I know for a FACT I'm not in a Spark area but I still have the LTE + spinning icon. It's just a generic icon lol.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] RevelationOmega:
I decompiled the systemui and SecSettings.apk early on working on DBooster, I know for a fact those icons are sprints 4G and 3G generic indicators, not spark icons. If you want to check and see for yourself, go to build prop, change:

ro.product.name=kltespr

ro.product.device=kltespr

To:

ro.product.name=kltetmo

ro.product.device=kltetmo

And reboot. Now you have t-mobile icons haha for 4G and 3g. If you do it for international, att, verizon, it's distorted. I'm working on something so anyone can choose which icons and samsung signal bars you'd like best. Sprint used 6 bars and spinning lte sign. Samsung stock is

4 bars and icons with arrows in/out.

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So do you know anything about data/LTE near Atlanta in terms of progress you've seen? Moving there soon for grad school and know it's way better than Tallahassee haha. Have family in Athens so I've tested there. So slow here though haha.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] BMP7777:
The map shows a lot of progress and I have noticed improvements, especially as you get further north into the sticks. But it still needs work.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] redmanjoey:
I get like 15-20Mbps max at home and about a mile away from where I live I topped out at about 60-65mbps down and 7-10 up consistently. But at my house I get like 1-3 mbps even drop to 3G every so often whereas on my note 3 I get 6-15 LTE consistently. So unless you get a strong spark signal it can be a little inconsistent. With a little time I think this can be really good for sprint.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] GoldenHind:
Seattle area tests have been pretty awesome, over all

A couple months ago now I was in a Sprint store and someone who worked there told me LTE had (finally) started coming in around Seattle. When I asked what kind of speeds to expect, he'd actually bragged about getting 6 Mbps. I'd been doing better than that with the Wimax on my Epic 4G Touch, so I really didn't have very high hopes for what Sprint's LTE would be like.

Most of the info I read online was Sprint trying to explain how much potential Spark has as a network but most user tests in most markets seemed (and to my knowledge, still do) often show Sprint's speeds as significantly slower than some of the other carriers.

Suffice to say, testing LTE speeds on my new S5 has been, for the most part, a very pleasant surprise.

Typically around town I've seen 25-30 Mbps at the most, but I ran several tests one afternoon a bit north of Seattle which I've attached here, which is about the fastest I've ever seen. The fact that each fairly short test used close to 100 Mbs of data drove home how quick that speed really is for me.

Of course, haven't had anything quite that fast since, but good to know the potential is at least there.

Sprint Galaxy S5

ROM: R.D.D.T v1.0 - VPU1AND2

Kernel: The Governaa_NCB_v1.0@ #1

Baseband version: G900PVPU1AND2
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] sgreene84:
In Baltimore MD.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] Scubba:
no spark but that's LTE I'm in new orleans
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] abstraction21:
Spark Speed San Antonio

These were my speeds in San Antonio (North Central) around 1am.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] imaconeheadXD:
Queens, NY ;)
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ajr0312:
this is the park. At home I get 40 down and 5 up
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
I'm by Poughkeepsie, NY and I barely get 3G you lucky b@ard!!

Sent from a Galaxy 5 light years away
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
So you guys don't care about the loss of 4G in non-Spark areas, and the overall loss of simultaneous voice and data? All of that was a deal-breaker, (no LTE anywhere? hell no) so I returned my S5.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] BubZX:
No spark in my area yet but some 4g \tests
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
What the heck are you talking about dude......
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
I'm saying that in non-Spark areas, Spark phones fall back to 3G-only mode to maintain voice capability. Widely-known at this point. Even in a Spark area, it cannot do simultaneous voice and cellular data of any kind. This is by design and to lower battery usage, which has been proven to be true.

I live in Austin, and I travel regularly from North Austin to Southeast San Antonio. I couldn't keep a 4G data signal if my life depended on it. When I GOT 4G, it was okay, and when I got Spark (didn't see an icon to indicate,) it was 50-60mbps down with 10-15mbps up.

Being able to stream music and keep GPS going while driving is a pretty big deal, even without talking at the same time. Once you factor in that you can't do **** on the phone while having a call, things get real sticky :( I need to look up emails, directions, etc while on business conference calls all the time. That is why I am so thankful I kept my HTC One that can do both, since regular Sprint LTE is almost everywhere now.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
Well in your previous post you said that "no LTE anywhere" and that loss of LTE in non-Spark areas.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
Basically that's what it amounts to. No LTE except in Spark areas. That's completely by design. You can toggle airplane mode to get LTE for a brief moment, but the phone will switch back to 3G/Voice shortly thereafter. Even in a live Spark market, (Austin,) I couldn't get a reliable 4G signal on I-35 from north to south of town. This feat is easily accomplished using my HTC One with standard LTE.

Anyhow, I was just asking if you guys really felt like it was worth the speed boost versus loss of usability. I bet most people don't even know they lost that feature yet.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
That is totally not true, 100% false info. I have LTE (non-Spark area) and it's pretty fast too and definitely reliable.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
Then you're in a Spark-compliant area, running proper eCSFB equipment and they simply haven't "turned on" the higher speeds. I can tell you that even in Austin, this is not rolled out widely. I found myself on 3G more often than not. I had 4G (or Spark) through central Austin, but I lost it as soon as I hit the 290/71 area, and I never once again got it on a 100-mile trip south on I-35. It was 3G the entire trip. I made this journey about 15 times with the S5 until I gave up and went back to the M7.

Now before you say it's 100% false, even if you disagree that eCSFB isn't necessary, or that somehow the equipment is already installed everywhere... one thing you cannot argue is the lack of simultaneous data+voice. We could discuss that one factor alone if you wish, but you'll see in the articles below what I am referring to. Good stuff :)

A little reading for the uninitiated:

http://www.fiercewireless.com/story...upport-simultaneous-voice-and-data/2013-11-19

http://www.phonescoop.com/articles/article.php?a=13880

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Spri...andle-calls-and-data-at-the-same-time_id54789
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
Well yeah, I know that Sprint tri-band phones cannot do voice+data, that is not what we are discussing lol... I am NOT in a spark area, but have LTE. It's just Sprint's regular LTE dude.... not the way faster Spark lol.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] imaconeheadXD:
Sprint "Spark" just means 3 bands of LTE are supported, with the phone switching to the least congested band. It is not a different type of LTE, you will still get full LTE in any non-Spark enabled area, just on the most congested band. The phone does fall back to 3G when on a call, but 3G is not needed to be notified of a call by the network, so your statement about not having other LTE is false. As to the simultaneous voice and data, you are correct. However, once Sprint rolls out voice-over-LTE with HD Voice, that won't be a problem anymore because everything will be done over LTE so data and voice will work simultaneously again.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
If your towers do not have eCSFB configured then you will not get LTE. This is VERY common right now as Sprint is rushing to fill in the gaps. Sounds like you fellas are not experiencing any issues, which is awesome. Without eCSFB, your phone will default to 3G/Voice so that you can receive calls and texts -- REGARDLESS of an incoming call or not. When I returned my GS5 on the 25th, I couldn't get a reliable LTE or Spark signal within 100 miles of Austin. If my life depended on it, I'd be dead :)
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] Eris _2.1_2010:
I'm dealing with the loss of data over voice by taking my AT&T Galaxy Exhilarate to Tmobile and getting that H2O plan. Unlimited data on AT&T's network for $60 a month.

Sent From My Galaxy S5 Far Far Away
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
I have also considered T-Mobile, but I really, REALLY like this unlimited data. I am just trying to figure out how quickly Sprint will get VoLTE... something tells me that's pretty far out there.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] dangerruss:
Spark is coming online in parts of boise idaho. Hitting 30 mbps on the tower that is live. Typically lte is only 4.5 to 6 mbps here.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] vwpro177:
Just got this in Ft. Worth Texas
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] luigi311:
You should probably re-read everything. Unless they put out a update to change how things used to work then the way it works was that these phones connect to any LTE be it in a spark location or not and will stay connected until a call comes through and if Sprint has eCSFB working it will disconnect you from LTE to allow the call to go through if not setup the call will go to voice mail and u will stay on LTE. Most site have eCSFB working already. Sms, GPS and every other function still works perfectly over LTE it is just phone calls. Due to this Sprint will be upgrading to VoLTE soon to compensate for this. Sms are already routed through LTE so that isn't a problem and GPS doesn't even use the carrier unless u enable the option to only use the carrier and not the onboard GPS antennas. LTE has never been able to do voice and data at the same time because VoLTE has never been implemented yet

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Why does this start happening now? The upcoming phones are making the switch from multiple antennas to a single antenna in order to reduce battery usage. Before one antenna will connect to LTE and the other will connect to voice which is not 3g it is 1X, voice is what handles all the calls. As for the antennas I'm not 100% sure if someone else can confirm that would be nice but everything behind the dashed line is 100% correct
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] mike7n2004:
I have had 2 spark phone's and I picked up all 3 band (25,25,41) with the HTC One M8 and LG G2 I cant pick up LTE anywhere on my S5 unless I toggle airplane mode and that only last for a second.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] jbadboy2007:
You might wanna do a hands free activation or update profile and prl. I actually get LTE in buildings that I couldn't get it before with my s3 and I can also make calls in those buildings that I couldn't either.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
+1
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] eyecon82:
And I can get LTE on areas my s4 could either

-Sent from Tapatalk
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
My experience in mid-to-late April was that most towers did not have the switchback technology enabled, so the phones would fall to 3G very quickly. This was true for both the S5 and M8 devices I saw. Perhaps Sprint has made major headway in the last month, but it made the phones unusable, even in large metro areas like Austin, and roadtrips were out of the question. My M7, on the other hand, would maintain LTE, (and voice obviously,) at nearly all times.

I understand these are growing pains, but I sure as heck wish they would have left dual antennas as an OPTION. Let us choose between battery savings and simultaneous voice and data.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] xTrooge:
You guys should do ##72786# on your phones. Reactivates your device and updates all the network information.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] GoldenHind:
Downtown area of Seattle experiences

I'd been fairly encouraged by my very high 70 MB peak download speed having bragged elsewhere and here about what I'd found in a suburb just to the north of Seattle but yesterday having spent an extended period of time in the downtown area using my data connection I have to say I'm pretty thoroughly disappointed.

Transfer speed under any connection was quite slow, but in particular I only got LTE after toggling airplane mode as many here mentioned and in most cases it didn't stay connected for very long even walking between various blocks throughout the downtown Seattle area. Comparing with a friend with his Sprint S4, I was repeatedly unable to maintain connection to the navigation app we each were using, whereas he experienced no issues whatsoever. More often than not he reported being on 3g rather than LTE, however.

At this point, I'm not sure whether to hope for an improvement with our S5 with (as an area Sprint store rep assured me) the ongoing Spark network deployment in the area (doesn't seem to be officially even in progress for Seattle from what I've read online) or with any LTE connection in general, much less more dependable speed on the 3G network and however that hand-off takes place.

Given that I've seen firsthand that faster consistent speeds are totally possible, I keep hope that this comes down to a software issue and not some inherent antenna flaw with the device.

Sprint Galaxy S5

ROM: R.D.D.T v1.0 - VPU1AND2

Kernel: The Governaa_NCB_v1.0@ #1

Baseband version: G900PVPU1AND2
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
The behavior you are reporting is very much the same as what I was complaining about earlier. The switching circuitry is not installed in your area... One of the biggest cities around. Doesn't make much sense, does it? Austin has a massive tech culture as well, and I could hardly get LTE here with a Spark-enabled phone. The devices and service are not ready for prime-time in my opinion. They should have rolled out VoLTE fist or simultaneously. That way no other carrier could brag again about SvDO.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] thetruejay20:
I work for a tower company in Minnesota, and my crew is doing some of the spark (2.5) upgrades. Just thought I'd share a little of what goes into a site. I'll probably post some other pics down the road.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] thetruejay20:
Speed test right under a Sprint Spark site, probably hitting a lobe. I could probably get better speeds if I walked out a bit.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] thetruejay20:
Took some more pictures of the top side of things. Showing the radio, antenna, fiber, and power. The setup is 1 per sector, so a total of 3.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] pastert33:
Got any contacts in GA that I can get a job with?
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] thetruejay20:
Sorry I only know the Minnesota market, and actually guys are coming up from the southern states because they can't find tower work there.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] reverepats:
Seems like an awesome job to have tho! Must be a ton of travel tho huh!
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] thetruejay20:
In the summer its awesome, winter sucks. There are crews that travel, I personally stay in town around the metro area of Minnesota only traveling when I need to.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] :
I have to tell you I am pretty impressed with my Galaxy S5, but I am waiting to here about the merging of Sprint and T-Mobile..

RH
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] Shiftlock:
[MENTION=870218]thetruejay20[/MENTION] are you a member over at S4GRU?
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] thetruejay20:
Am not
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] Shiftlock:
You should check it out, it might be your style.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] PhazeDelta1:
Hopefully we get this in VA before I die of old age. I was in Baltimore Maryland last weekend and and I got to experience the Spark Network first hand. I was not disappointed one bit.. :)
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] jhuff83:
Fastest speed test ever for me.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] PhazeDelta1:
It seems I have spoke too soon. Sprint must have just turned on the towers for the spark network within the last 24 hours, because I didn't have LTE on my S5 when I got it the other day. I only noticed I had it because I had errands to run this morning. When I was out yesterday, all I had was 3g
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] Droidspoofr:
Any one else try it in Salt Lake? The only times my dl speed was fast was in the Sprint store (go figure) other then that my best speed was 2.5Mbs.

I will definitely go back to T-Mobile if this doesn't pick up most times I'm on 3g everywhere in the city.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
Added a poll for ya'll.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] rukin1:
[IMG="speedtest"]http://i61.tinypic.com/2yvou81.png[/IMG][IMG="b26"]http://i58.tinypic.com/2db89rt.png[/IMG] part of spark.. Fort Wayne has Band 26 lit up, but I'm sure it's temporary
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] animal7296:
It wasn't in salt lake but Midvale had speeds in excess of 50mbps. I was at work just off of 8000 s and state street.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
Damn I'd kill for 1/3 of those speeds lol. Where I live I get 50-100 KB/s speeds... -_-

3G obviously. I hafta drive 30 min to see LTE... -_-

Sent from a Galaxy 5 light years away
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] rukin1:
If you post a pic of your speedtest. Take a picture of your ##debug# menu > lte engineering screen and it'll show band 26/41. Band is sprints original band.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
So which band is spark?
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] jeff76ws6:
So I've had my s5 since last Friday. Since, I had been told a couple times that has missed a couple calls. Little did I know how many calls I was missing... so i called sprint and they told me that i was having connection issues with a tower in my are that was causing me to drop calls.. but i wasnt even having a dropped call issue. They advised me to take my phone into the store to have it looked at. So I did...They said they had another S5 owner just come in with the same issue. They said their only fix at the time was for me to turn lte off and only use 3g. I was floored that this was their solution. They said Samsung has not released some sort of update to handle spark. Has anyone heard anything in regards to this?
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] piggynuts:
ROMS that support spark?

Are there any ROMS that have built in hotspot and spark triband available ? I'm in LA and spark is awesome for coverage so any feedback appreciated !
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] pastert33:
I've had issues with missing calls, LTE dropping to 3G and text msgs coming in delayed. I dont believe these issues to be a samsung problem but a Sprint problem. I've gotten no help with the issues from Sprint
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] rukin1:
Well that will happen for a while until they(the Tower contractors) Can get the down/tilt and everything else on each tower adjusted properly... replacing EVERYTHING takes time and time,I mean a year+.

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Well that will happen for a while until they(the Tower contractors) Can get the down/tilt and everything else on each tower adjusted properly... replacing EVERYTHING takes time and time,I mean a year+.

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There are ROMS in the Android Development section that have hotspot haxed. It doesn't matter if you're on triband :p lol. It works w/o a problem

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41 and 26.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] adrianr514:
I keep seeing all this band 3 stuff. Band 3 has nothing to do with spark. Band 41 +26 with the original band make tri-band (spark) not band 3.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] stampere:
So this is Spark... Not Bad
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] BubZX:
^^^^^^^^ what area?
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] stampere:
Rockville MD. Right outside Washington DC
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] BubZX:
I'm about an hour away from there in Waynesboro PA so hopefully soon they'll be firing it up in my area.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] rukin1:
can you show me what band you're on?

##debug#

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[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] stampere:
2nd pic shows Band 41
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] stampere:
I think 8T8R is going live in the Washington DC area...
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] macmovr:
we must be neighbors. My sediments exactly.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] Demonis_Straton:
I pick up LTE from a tower based in a town with a population of 800. I regularly get 25mbps from it, and it seems to be up to date, as it always kicks me off LTE for a call.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] ScrapMaker:
Any time your phone rings, it HAS to kick you off of LTE. You'll know if the tower is outdated because you'll be stuck on 3G.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] rukin1:
Not bad
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] hydroxylicacid:
Spark in Jacksonville, FL is pretty impressive. My speed at the beach today exceeded my cable connection at home.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] BubZX:
What are the saprk bands? At my house I'm on band26 but in other areas I'm on band 25.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] jmallow:
Several folks keep saying Sprint Spark is band 26 and 41...there is more to it than just that.

Sprint Spark is a marketing term for tri-band LTE (band 26-800Mhz, band 25-1900Mhz, band 41-2.5Ghz). Sprint owns a crap ton of spectrum in band 41, which is the band you will need to be connected to to get those super impressive 50Mbps or better speeds. But band 41 does not penetrate buildings as well, so the other bands help with capacity and coverage.

Band 26-800Mhz does the best job of penetrating inside buildings/houses, but 800Mhz will have capacity issues if everyone is on it, nor does Sprint own enough spectrum to make 800Mhz super fast like band 41. So each band serves a different purpose on "Sprint Spark". But the best speeds will be on band 41, by a long shot.

In 2015, since Sprint owns so much band 41 spectrum, they are going to "aggregate" two carriers on band 41 together, and offer even more impressive speeds. Current devices won't be able to take advantage of it, but it will moving forward.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] BubZX:
One more question. If band 26 is out in my area does that mean band 41 is activated also and I'm just not connecting to it or is that another tower upgrade that needs to be done yet? I've done a lot of googleing to try and get a answer but without much luck.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] jmallow:
Just because a tower has band 26 does not mean that band 41 is available. Band 41 uses a different set of antennas on the tower, so it is additional work. But if the tower has received Sprint's "Network Vision" upgrade, the upgrades will take less time than in the past because of all the new gear.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] BubZX:
Thank you for replies.
[Sprint Galaxy S 5 General] evo3d6:
From what I understand is band 26 is the same lte you will find on lets say a s3 band 41 is your spark and if I'm not mistaking 25 is your cdma 3g 1x also if I'm again not mistaking to take advantage of you "hd voice" you must also be connected to band 41 I'm pretty sure that is why on some calls the person on the other end sound crisp and understandable and some calls it seems hard to hear the caller. Just research I've done if I'm wrong please correct me so we all have a better understanding.