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[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Zamdam1:
I have T-Mobile and my group messaging is not working.. No matter if i use the stock app or Google hangouts..

The actual option is missing in Google hangouts under settings,sms, and then right under advanced settings it should show something like Group messaging or something..

I called samsung and they said it was the carrier and then i called tmobile and they said to come into the store to trade it out for a different one.

Can anyone with Tmobile send group messages with their GS5?

Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] ilostchild:
i wen to to already open SMS, on top right coner the 3 dotted line i clicked that and it let me add another person to that to make it a group mesaging, only thing it sends it as a MMS which i dislike most part
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Zamdam1:
Ok. I got it figured out.

It is the SIM Card.

SIM Card provisioning wasnt allowing it for some reason.. I went into the Tmobile store and they swapped out my S5 with a new one, I put in my old sim and it gave me the same issue.. I asked him if we could try the sim card that came with the new phone and he was like, thats not gonna work because all a sim does is allow you on the network.. I begged to differ..

They tried it and it worked after a reboot.

Good luck guys and gals
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djcoolguyno1:
Look at the ram used how to solve dis prob
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pranii23:
Which ROM are you using.?

Can u give more details.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djcoolguyno1:
Totally stock
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] luis4ever:
Do you have problems?
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djcoolguyno1:
No but can't find out how much my ram is being used
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] englishmale:
I'm having the same problems on 757 think it might be a Kit Kat bug? It's showing I'm using 190% or more ram, I'll just wait for next update.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cippi21:
Now who says that the z1 uses a lot of ram ahahaha sorry had to do it

A factory reset or a repair through PCC should fix that
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Just2Cause:
My RAM usage indicator is working just fine.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Optimusg2x:
I've been using it all day, I wonder why it's not there for you or working for you
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] atman8r:
Same problem here. My buddy has an AT&T s5 that works fine. Is it a phone problem? Or.... Cuz I'm already rooted. Stock rooted. Nothing changed.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] philliman:
I'm on t mobile in Philly no issues with group messages here
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] andROIDS:
Have you tried factory resetting? I've heard others with this problem doing that and having the group messaging option come back.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] aznmode:
Does having download booster enabled have something to do with it?

Or maybe this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2722043
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] yaniel06:
[MENTION=705148]philliman[/MENTION] hey hows tmobile service in philly? Looking to switch from sprint
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 5] Zamdam1:
I figured it out.. It was the SIM card from T-mobile..

I went into the corp store and they gave me a new phone, that didnt fix it.

I asked if we could try a new SIM.. the guy was saying that wasnt the issue. I insisted.. After activating the new sim and rebooting the phone, it was fixed.. Weird huh.
[One (M8) General] bpdev:
The purpose of this thread is to compare the gpe and sense editions of the m8 in terms of performance in all areas (battery life, gaming, performance, lag in menus, etc.)
[One (M8) General] md1008:
I personally like GPE a lot better. I still get good battery life (main reason why upgraded from a Nexus 5) camera is decent, sense is arguably better. I don't notice any lag difference between the 2. I just think sense 6 is ugly and I feel I am buried in settings. Vanilla kit Kat is just so nice
[One (M8) General] robstunner:
How's camera comparatively?
[One (M8) General] andrewnelson:
I love my HTC M8. great phone.
[One (M8) General] derkie:
HTC M8 Stock
[One (M8) General] cc999:
Sense

Been there done that. Getting back to Sense is a nightmare and you really have to know what you are doing.

I was on the GE for a few days. Contacts>add-edit picture BUG does not work, No Gallery now you are forced to use Google +,to view photos,

ATT reception was spotty - disconnects, Camera no comparison Sense much better. Lag no difference. All the things I use daily

are on Sense like battery %, message and email counts on icon, power saving (if you want it), Max screen brightness on Auto etc....

Battery life for me was better on Sense. Just my 2 cents....

CC
[One (M8) General] bpdev:
What do you guys think about lag in apps like Google+ scrolling. It scrolling seems a little glitchy on sense. How about on gpe.
[One (M8) General] md1008:
You still have some features from sense but not as many. I find the camera on sense to be better. The new updates to Google's camera app makes a world of difference

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Damn I can't get any where close to that. I get 5-6 sot. I usually have Bluetooth running and WiFi. Although I am perfectly happy with what I got. How did you manage? Running a custom kernal?
[One (M8) General] robstunner:
So with the new Google camera the sense still takes better photos? That might be a deal breaker alone.
[One (M8) General] daddioj:
complete stock
[One (M8) General] gfreek:
For the past couple of weeks I have been using both as I can easily switch between the two on the fly via nandroid backup restore.

Prior to m8 I had nexus 5 as I like the clean clutter free experience of pure google android, I tend to find sense to be cumbersome and really hogs the system but I must admit to my surprise HTC have really cut out a lot of fat off the new sense 6 and therefore between the two I did not notice any lag both run very fast and fluid. Also battery life was about the same with both in my case I averaged about 18-20hrs from heavy to moderate use.

So bottom line I'm happy with both but below are the pros and cons:

GPE:

Pros:

- Very Clean Google Android experience no bloatware

- Very fast and fluid no lags

- HTC Dual camera function works

- All the tweaks from Gravity Box works via xposed framework work perfectly!

Cons:

- Camera slower than sense camera

- Google Music player not as good as HTC Music

- Contacts management not good as sense

- Backup not good as HTC Back Up

- Dot view case features limited

- No Extreme power mode

HTC Sense Stock:

Pros:

- Very fast and fluid no lags

- Camera is very fast and more features than google.

- HTC Music

- Contacts management

- Blinkfeed is actually good

- HTC Backup better than google backup

- Extreme power mode

- Full function of Dot View Case

Cons:

- Although sense 6 is the most cleanest and clutter free from HTC they still need to lose little more fat.

- Most the Gravity Box tweaks via xposed framework DONT Work!
[One (M8) General] thebobmannh:
This is the kind of stuff I was looking for when starting this horribly-named thread. Very helpful.

Basically, if you don't use the Sense launcher or specific "Sense" apps... is there anything else that Sense brings to the table under the hood? Or is it just hooks fro their launcher and apps?
[One (M8) General] boe323:
Ive installed the google home launcher ....aosp message app ....the aosp desk clock ....and gallery on sense, I hate the sense launcher ....I wish they would give us the option to scroll the same way, now if only I could get the original google lock screen I would be happy at that. As for performance ....its the same ...maybe GPE is slighty better as theres less to hog resources. So ...I basically have the best of both.
[One (M8) General] otariq:
How did you install the the Google now launcher? It says not compatible in the play store
[One (M8) General] md1008:
Side load the Google home launcher
[One (M8) General] HolyAngel:
Biggest differences if you don't care-for/need sense are you'll get slightly less screen on time(~6hour sot instead of 7ish), you lose zoe, no built-in power management/battery saver/extreme battery saver mode, couple less gestures and dot view features if you happen to use that case... Have to use trickster or something to limit kernel speed yourself if you want a "battery saver mode".

Everything else is pretty much the same.

GPE is a tad faster for the trade-off. You can still add the old Gallery app, tweak build prop ril settings to get your network right so data speed will be same as stock sense. Auto screen brightness works the same, you just have to recheck the box after you touch the slider.. and of course, TONS of customization through gravity box.
[One (M8) General] thebobmannh:
Hmm. Thanks for the info. I have a One XL now (just waiting for my upgrade window, coming soon) and the biggest thing that bothers me is the duplicate apps -- using Hangouts for Messaging, but stuck with the HTC Messages app always running (and freezing it via TiBu always gives me odd results, ie I stop receiving texts). Obviously when I get the new One I'll play around with Sense a bit and see how I feel.
[One (M8) General] jonathan413:
It's the same way in GPE. I've uninstalled all apps I don't use including hangouts which was already default and there are no side effects. Also screen on time is subjective to the user and how he/she uses there phone and depending on if you use third party kernels then you'll be getting very similar results.

EDIT: when you delete an app or freeze the app in TiBu, delete its data first then proceed to uninstall. No problems for me whatsoever when I do that.

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8 hours 25 minutes of SOT? What type of sorcery is this?!! Lmao
[One (M8) General] aznsephyi:
exactly what I was thinking.
[One (M8) General] oajungen:
Hi, thank you for your reply.

I am living in the Netherlands and not in the US. So our frequencies are different. Over here we can't by the official developer edition or GPE because of this reason I think.

So the question actualy is: Does a Europe M8 which is migrated to GPE use the frequencies used in Europe or is it using the US frequencies?
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
EDIT: After an RUU conversion, your radios are changed to those part of the RUU you flash. If you root and unlock the bootloader, you can then flash your local radios. In order to receive OTAs, you'd have to temporarily revert back to stock recovery and it may re-flash GPE radios (not sure about it re-flashing the GPE radios, though, I somehow don't think so).
[One (M8) General] blooflowers:
GPE/AOSP all the way. I told myself I'd give Sense a try since I didn't mind it on my Incredible. After I got s-off, that lasted about 15 minutes haha. :p
[One (M8) General] MarkGiardini:
I've been using the sense based ROM for a while but I'm trying a GPE ROM for now, still undecided which I prefer.
[One (M8) General] iHagbani:
I bought my M8 with Sense, but a week ago i installed the GPE RUU.

Now I'll never gonna back to sense!!!
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
What about GPE do you prefer?
[One (M8) General] iHagbani:
Actually i'm used to GNL and the whole rom cuz i was using Nexus before the M8 so i like it more cuz i know it. Otherwise i noticed that games specially GTA are much more smoother than the Sense rom! Battery life is the same as the Sense but with the battery save mood, i installed greeenify and my battery holds on for 15-17 hours with a connected wifi or 3G all the time. Also with the exposed GLE you wont need anything more!
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
After using the GPE since May, I flashed the Sense firmware and restored a Stock Developer Edition Nandroid. Now, my phone is fully stock, OTA-receiving Sense 6.

And honestly, I like it quite a bit. Speakers, camera, and calls all increased in quality, and battery life seems better too.

I much prefer Sense multitasking, and everything feels faster (but I don't game, so while I know the GPE has better gaming performance, it doesn't matter for me).

But the best thing?

The main reason I switched?

1080P YOUTUBE SUPPORT.

Makes a big difference, especially for someone who only watches YouTube on their phone.

I have a CWM Nandroid for the GPE and all the tools to switch back, and as soon as the Android L update comes out I'll do that immediately.

However, for now, I simply don't see any advantages the GPE holds. Also, until Google gets their interface smoothed out, HTC provides a more fluid consistent experience with the GUI.

Still happy with my silver phone, though, glad I didn't get a Gunmetal Developer Edition from the get go ;)
[One (M8) General] crazy88:
I ran stock sense for about 3 months (Since launch whenever that was) and then just last week installed the GPE RUU. I went back to sense last night, purely for the camera. I had a little look for alternatives, but I love the sense camera.

Sense 6, IMO, is by far the best version. I used to hate sense.
[One (M8) General] thebobmannh:
At least for me, it's not so much "preferring something" in GPE as not seeing any real benefit from Sense and hating the bloat and clutter. I miss the camera I guess, but just that isn't worth a bunch of apps I don't like or need and another 800MB of ... stuff sitting on my phone.
[One (M8) General] chrisully:
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Same here . Be doing when android L is out

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Great point like the quick settings
[One (M8) General] SolarTrans:
I went back to the GPE after using Sense for a few days. Performance is actually pretty poor, with music skipping sometimes just while loading web pages.

Also, battery life was worse for me than on the GPE. Not sure why, but it was.

After flashing the latest ADSP from the Harman Kardon M8, sound quality is also just as good as Sense.

Performance was the biggest thing, and it's weird that general navigation was faster on Sense but overall performance under load was quite a bit worse.
[One (M8) General] NickS_:
Been running GPE since day one, never looking back.
[One (M8) General] EternalAndroid:
Simple as that. ?
[One (M8) General] michaelzeng145:
Converted to GPE as soon as I was able. Paid the $25 for S-OFF. Now waiting for the L release.
[One (M8) General] PunishedSnake:
From?

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I did due to WiFi calling
[One (M8) General] th3:
I used to hate Sense being heavily involved in the new-to-us Android AKA golden Desire and Desire S hacking and modding days...

But not anymore. Sense now adds massively rather than detracts. It supports, enhances and eases your usage, rather than debilitating, slowing and hampering. For general use, it is a great, refined edition. My battery life you can see in the battery thread is excellent, beyond my expectations. The CPU power is beyond average usage power needs, and NAND and SDCARD tech has improved greatly enough to not suffer from prior limitations, allowing us massive flexibility.

These limitations and barriers is what made most of us jump to rooting and cynogen. HTC has quite honestly done an excellent job with the M8, even for a savage critic like me (except call recording and the crappy LED light).

Note, I don't like the GUI BlinkFeed launcher/homescreen one bit ... Bloatware IMHO, so I keep it disabled as much as is possible. I use Themer anyway.

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[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I've been switching between GPE 4.4.4 and Sense 6 4.4.3 (all stock) and I can't decide. Sense used to to be slow and heavy but it's very different now. Music player and camera are the most obvious selling points, and battery life seems to be a lot better.

Sense with the Google Now launcher is pretty sweet. The only thing that I wish I could change (without rooting and a custom rom) is to declutter the notification icons. There are 2 things I wish Sense had with the stock version. Per app color selection and removal of some notification icons (bluetooth for example, don't display unless connected). All things that can be done with a custom ROM but I try to stick to stock.

One thing for sure, when Android L comes out, I'm going back to GPE!

Oh and one thing I like about Sense is that at work, because the WiFi is horrible and I barely get 3G when all the planets are perfectly aligned, I can use the USB connection sharing and have the phone use the computer's internet instead.
[One (M8) General] thebobmannh:
I've been trying out Sense again for the first time since I got the phone, and the notification area is probably my biggest complaint. It just looks so cluttered and ****ty. Even playing with Sense 6 Toolbar in XPosed I can't really get it looking nice.

That and I wish I could use the Google Dialer and Email apps, which I like better than the Sense variants.
[One (M8) General] blazevxi:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2701376 have a look for your CID there
[One (M8) General] Heisenberg420:
Sense all the way. Mainly for Harmon and kardan audio mod. Plus its just as fluid and customizable as gpe, more theme options, and love the ui. Only thing I wish for sense is more kernel options.
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
Sense for me, mostly because I found GPE to drop frames occasionally at random, making the experience feel less smooth and optimized. Will give GPE another try when L is released, but I don't have my hopes up. HTC just doesn't put much effort into optimizing their GPE phones for stock Android like Google does for its Nexus devices.
[One (M8) General] robjbw:
Sense for me too because of camera features missing in GPE

1: GPE has no dual camera recording capability. (Recording front and back cam at same time)

2: No Slow motion capture.

IF im wrong, anybody please correct me. But for me, other then those 2 features missing, I would use GPE.
[One (M8) General] Joplisan:
I was a huge Nexus (stock Android) fan for years, but I decided to give Sense a try, and I'm so glad I did - and here's why (in my opinion):

Sense over GPE:

- better camera app (faster, with more settings + manual mode, which is awesome)

- better video recording (slow motion, fullHD...)

- better gallery (better layout options, locations/map...), music, calendar... (stock Sense apps overall)

- useful stock apps like radio FM, voice recorder, flashlight...

- battery saving mode (I have it on constantly, and I'm getting amazing battery life) - not to mention extreme saving mode, for traveling, etc.

- BlinkFeed (nice and quick overview of my news - Google Now in my country is basically just a weather widget, which is a shame)

- awesome backup - it literally returns your phone to the way it was, with shortcuts, folders, widgets and everything - really useful.

- for me, it's even faster, better optimised than the GPE

- additional features, like customizations and other configurations that the GPE doesn't offer

GPE over Sense:

- pure Android with faster updates

- no apps like Fitbit, Kids Mode, Facebook, etc., that you can't delete (which is one of the few things that has been bothering me on Sense)

- better dialer (better, more simple design, CallerID)

- better calls screen

- editing in Photos app is far superior, but then again, you can use it on both versions

- better notifications (call back, dismiss alarm, etc.)

- cleaner device, with less features (some quite unnecessary) and apps overall - for some, this can be good
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I think that right now, the one thing that makes me want to stick with GPE is that before the end of the year, we should get Android L so if I'm going to set everything up once and for all, if I go with sense, I'll have to RUU when L is released. Not a big thing of course specially since I like to setup the phone, but just something on the back of my head.

There are things that I think are far better on GPE

- No duplication of apps

- Can uninstall just about everything that in not wanted, or at least disable.

- Dialer

- Inbound call screen

- Clean lock screen

- Setting alarms, timers, calendar events (I like the clock layout when picking a time compared to the Sense "wheels")

- Notification pane and icons
[One (M8) General] MistaBishi:
I keep going back and forth and can't decide. Battery is better on Sense, plus the battery saving modes help when battery gets low. Camera is better, performance is better. But GPE looks better. Decisions decisions.
[One (M8) General] clay21:
Sense

I can only manage a day on Gpe or Aosp roms and i'm quickly back to Sense.....i love it :D. I also only just switched to Art and flashed the HK mod along with V4A and wow :eek::cool:
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Has anyone noticed a real difference in audio between Sense and GPE? I think Sense sounds better but I'm not excluding the placebo effect :)
[One (M8) General] MistaBishi:
Sense definitely sounds better. BoomSound doesn't seem to work properly on GPE I've noticed. When you turn the option on and off wearing earphones it doesn't sound that much different. When on Sense, there is a major difference.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Been running Sense for a few days now and I think I'm going to stick to GPE. The lockscreen is cleaner, the notification drawer and icons are much cleaner, and since I'm not big on social network, I like not having those around.

Also, since I'm on the HTC M7, I'm guessing between HTC and Bell, one of them will stop updating the phone soon so by having GPE, I won't be left behind when it comes to updates.

I do have to use tasker to imitate some of the battery saving features Sense has but that's only until Android L is released.
[One (M8) General] :
Sense. GPE in comparison is poor and very limited. Sense is light and fast (I came from SGS IV, so please understand me).
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Sense is definitely not light, the base software is 1.2 gigs compared to 550 megs, and updates are 500-600 megs each compared to 100-150.

By light you probably mean it does'n change the look and feel of stock Android as much as the others which I agree with. I had an S3 for awhile, my wife has an S4, and that GUI although fast changes the look of Android considerably. I have to say Samsung Touchwiz has a lot of nice gestures that are actually useful.
[One (M8) General] MistaBishi:
I keep thinking about going back to GPE from Sense, as I love GPE. But I can't decide if its worth giving up HTC camera and the quality of the audio on Sense. I'm going to try and stay on Sense until L I think, but that will likely change.
[One (M8) General] linezero:
I finally have switched from sense to carbon newest nightly. I guess i can live without the fancy camera stuff. carbon rom has never been so smooth :D
[One (M8) General] -juanito-:
What's the difference between flashing GPE ROM and conversion to GPE ?
[One (M8) General] :
I think ROM looks almost the same (some modders add extra functions). The advantage of conversion is possibility to system updates, i.e. Android L when it'll be released.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Not much, the only difference is that when you use an RUU (to go to sense or GPE), it will include everything (radios, firmware, ect) so you don't have to worry about having the correct firmware for what you have (even though it's rarely a problem).

Having a stock recovery also allows OTAs to work.

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I think a lot of people will change when L is released. HTC promised L within 3 months, but add carrier delay to that and it will be awhile before we see an OTA with Sense and Android L. I'm surprised to see how L looks like Sense with the notification bar coloring. I'm hoping that they will include the option to set the color per app or one color for every app. With only 4 themes (one being all black), the options for colors and very limited.

I'm guessing L will be official in November so we probably have a good 2-3 months before Android gets an update.