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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mexiken:
1. Yes it does allow payments via Paypal, stop being a tool and READ, maybe even Google something....

2. The gentlemen above me gave a great explanation. It just wouldn't make sense in a capped data environment.

3. If Root were obtained, this wouldn't be an issue. 3rd party apps CAN access the card BTW, they just can't write to folders other than their own. You do know the My Files app works, right????

4. No. Providing smartphone users with an OS that has tightly integrated Google services as a means for Google to serve you relevant ads is what ANDROID is all about. You and I and the rest of us who care about customizing are miniscule compared to the BILLION PLUS Android users. Get a clue dude.

5. Stop being a tool, get off the forums, go play around with the phone, maybe even watch a video or two about all the tips and tricks the phone has, and then come back, when you're ready to not sound like a whiny teenager.

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No, I doubt most of us have. Apart from it being an old argument that accomplishes NOTHING, it also is pretty naive to buy a phone THINKING that people who VOLUNTEER and work on donations would spend time to find an exploit, as if this is owed or expected. The sense of entitlement for people who believe this is ridiculous.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] em0ney14:
S5 does have root, does have custom boot loader, and already has roms. It is VERIZON that has your phone locked.

I'm sorry to say it, but I jumped over to T MOBILE and they paid my ETF fee....up to $350...

$50 A month unlimited, instead of $90 or so, plus additional line too. ...

So far I'm happy with the switch though.

Sorry you are having issues with your version.

If I come across anything to help you guys I will post in here for you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
1. Follow your own advice, I'll wait.......

2. I wish I was so naive that no explanation, would be considered an explanation.

3. You do know that "My Files" is not a third party app, right????? I understand that most of these issues would be a non-issue with root access, but please oh wise one, explain how this apparent increased root difficulty is peculiarly carrier-specific?

4. No one in the history of the world has ever said "I'm going to get an Android so I can have relevant ads." At least one person has said, "I want to customize the **** out of my phone, therefore, Android."

5. Thank you, I had no idea that there was information about this phone anywhere other than XDA. Perhaps in my quest, I may find this elusive information about the Verizon S5 fingerprint scanner usable with Paypal you speak of.

6. I do NOT feel "entitled" to root. I understand that what you call "volunteering" isn't also about NOT getting paid, which is why I have no problem supporting the awesome efforts of root/recovery/rom/app developers. I DO feel entitled to features advertised to be available in a product, and if/when those features are deliberately disabled, I DO feel entitled to an explanation. Unless you can provide explanations instead of a cult-like defense reserved for Apple Forums, please limit your responses to the tools that may kiss you ass elsewhere.

This is no different than if a car company was to release a model of vehicle with a set of unique features, only to have the dealership remove them, and not bother to tell anyone about it. Then when you realize that those features are missing, and take to a forum (typically) full of enlightened people with explanations and solutions, you instead receive rhetoric like "Stop *****ing about the car not having heated seats(albeit not a unique feature), it has a steering wheel, doesn't it you ungrateful prick?"
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Thanks for your input, I am seriously weighing my options, I've been checking out the T-Mobile S5 forums, and see a lot of interesting things going on over there. I haven't been under contract with Verizon for years, and frankly, coverage is the only thing that's preventing me from leaving, and they unfortunately have no competition in that regard. Still considering throwing my grandfathered unlimited data plans on ebay, and exchanging coverage for capability.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eighty1:
Same boat. I have piece of mind, that wherever I go I have service with Verizon. Although tmobile has great service where I live in Atlanta, I've also traveled north and south and felt so cheap and angry having a phone with a G and edge icon for data majority of the time. I mean it's 2014 for crying out loud. LOL! Also the fact my family lives in West Virginia where there's no tmobile service and it roams on att at the worst capped speeds. At that point I promise to not let Verizon go because it has a stellar LTE icon at least 90% of the way. Once I get back to Atlanta, I say, well I have great coverage where I live, costs is cheaper, and mainly bootloaders are unlocked with tmobile. Once I travel on the road again it's the same cycle of me back pedaling leaving Verizon because they're hands down the most reliable, I have a 20% discount, and unlimited data. I'm tempted to suspend my service with Verizon and only reconnect when I travel until tmobile gets there coverage wise. Since I've been off contract forever I can suspend my line for at least half the year without being billed. I feel ridiculous going through this as an adult because I like to flash ROMS. Help me? LOL!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ryanbg:
This is hands-down the funniest post I've ever read on XDA. I agree, after my Note 3, I'm all done with Samsung devices permanently. They don't care about their customers at all. They've been most unhelpful after I've exhausted every channel of support imaginable looking for a solution. I wish Motorola would make a high-end device again, which I bet they are. Regardless, don't get too excited about the S5 getting unlocked. I've been working with another S4 developer for about 6 months now, and while we've got a great understanding of what's going on, there's not much we can do. We're still working, but don't get this device expecting custom ROMs and kernels. Root is realistic though, and I'd imagine it'll be here soon ;)

Remember that you have 14 days after renewal of contract or purchase of the device to bring it back and tell those red trolls that you can't root this bad boy.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jackdubl:
How does the work, selling your unlimited plan? Do you have to lose your phone number as well?

Free storage from Copy:

https://copy.com?r=cScoov
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Nice of you to share how you really feel about the GS5. Now you should take that to the M8 forums since it will get you a lot more mileage there. Here people just don't care.

I'm very happy with my GS5 and a lot of people are too.

Sounds like you don't even have the phoeu, but came here to troll instead.

Good luck with that.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Yeah, you got me, I'm pissed about a phone I didn't buy. What part of my diatribe would give any sane person the impression that I don't own the Verizon S5 genius?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
It's been explained to me by Verizon(admittedly could be wrong) that yes, by relinquishing the plan, one would also lose the phone number associated with it. There very well may be around it, and I thought about emailing someone that has personally bought/sold a grandfathered plan to ask of their experiences.

Here are some people selling em.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jackdubl:
Looks like you can keep your number and sell the line, info from one person's product description.

Free storage from Copy:

https://copy.com?r=cScoov
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
I agree to this being a very frustrating situation. However, I am confused as to how, being an owner of an S4 on vzw, you expected something else from the S5. Yeah, I understand that they "said" a few features were supposed to be there that were not... but we all know that this ultimately comes down to the phone being locked tighter than a drum (if it were not, those features could easily be achieved). It also seems a bit counterproductive to cry about the phone on a developer forum, as this kind of talk could only going to discourage someone from spending the time looking for a root exploit (we have enough stacked against us already). It may happen, it may not. You take a risk (however calculated) when purchasing a phone that may or may-not have the ability to unlock in some form. This certainly wasn't one of those phones where you were SURE we would be riding the flash train after a week. I am coming from the S4, and I knew unlocking was an understated long-shot, as well as root being a "hopeful". But the s5 is an upgrade, and there are plenty who are ok with it. I think its a bit of a stretch to call it a POS because vzw is looking for the big corporate contracts in locking it down. I still have an unlocked S4, and I have so far enjoyed the 5's upgrades, even without the freedoms. Ive also played with (and read many comparisons in some of the other forums) the M8 - and have just too many gripes to outweigh the ability to run GPE. Though I am sure you feel better getting these gripes off your chest in a forum, some of us come here with some glimmer of hope - regardless of how realistic.

Instead of throwing a fit here, put your money where your mouth is and make a real statement by purchasing outside of Samsung, or outside of the Red Devil. Do what I did and complain to the source. In the meantime (though I share your sentiment) I am sure most of us don't want to hear it. Especially here. And that's my 2 cents on it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] nicholi2789:
If i wasn't happy with my M8 I would return it and get something else. I love my M8. And I had an S2, S3, and S4 before this. I'm happy to embrace change as long as it means I can do what I want with my device. And when it really comes down to it, in another 6-12 months there will be another set of flagships, and this conversation will be repeated all over again.,

I can see some people in here aren't too happy about THEIR choices, judging by how pissed off they are (fillyo).

I never said I thought my device was better than anyone's. I just said I was happy with my choice.

Go cry and slit your wrists. I'm gonna go flash a rom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] fillyo:
If you are happy, why are trolling the S5 forums, I have spent zero time in the M8 forums, just wondering why you are coming here. Look at the pethetic name of this thread. Happy flashing, congrats you are so lucky.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] GrabMyWrist:
I absolutely love the S5, locked down or not. Do I hope for root? Sure. Does it ultimately matter to me one way or another? Nope.

To those thinking of making the switch to T-Mobile. Allow me to share my experiences with you. I ordered two S5's on T-Mobile's pre-order via T-Mobile.com. I paid full price for them too. I received them, activated them and used them for exactly two days. Over those two days, I spent roughly 10 combined hours on hold with T-Mobile support for various reasons, was hung up on over 20 times and transferred more times than I cared to count. On day two, my wife's phone died. It wouldn't turn on, wouldn't hard reset and wouldn't soft reset. After again spending an hour on hold I was told to send it back and they would ship me a new one. This meant the wife would have been without a phone for a few days. Not acceptable to me or her. In the end, I ported back to Verizon. They reactivated my account, credited me for the ETF's and allowed me to upgrade to the S5 using their BOGO offer. $1500.00 at T-Mobile vs $322.00 out the door with Verizon. I will happily pay more for better service, better coverage and peace of mind.

If you're absolutely sure you wanna go the T-Mobile route. Do yourself a favor and go into a local store. Ordering from T-Mobile.com will ensure that you get the crappiest service known to man. At least with a local store you have options.

Just my $0.02, your mileage may vary.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] nicholi2789:
It's funny how quick people are to pull out the "Troll" word. Reading this thread somebody could call you a troll just as easily as me. One word of dissent anywhere on these forums and it's "Troll, troll, Troll, TROLL!" Lol.

My friend posted this thread, so I read it and posted on it. I could give a **** whether the s5 gets root or not. I'm not getting it even if it had an unlocked bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
I'm actually wondering if one could simply buy a GS5 FROM TMobile, carrier unlock it, and slap a Verizon SIM in it. I know this works by taking an unlocked Verizon phone and using it ON TMobile, but I'm not certain Verzion doesn't go out of their way to prevent devices they didn't make a buck off of (Nexus5 & Nexus7) from activating on their network. I'm also not certain the phone band support information on what's actually IN the GS5 for TMobile though is accurate. (like is there a CDMA radio?)

Verizon's S5 radio info:

Network: LTE Band 13/4 (700/1700 MHz), CDMA/1xEVDO Rev. A (800/1900 MHz)

Global Network: EDGE/GSM (850/900/1800/1900), HSPA/UMTS(850/900/1900/2100)

TMobile's S5, perhaps incomplete?:

UMTS: Band V (850);UMTS/HSPA+: AWS Band IV / 2100 / 1900 / 850;Band II (1900);Quad Band GSM;LTE
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
I don't want to bash anyone everybody new this was coming s5 with locked bootloader let's all just set back an wait I prefer root if I don't get it oh well I'll just sit here an enjoy the phone we know it's gonna be locked but we still bought the phone
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Yeah, I'm pretty sure no one had any delusions about the phone not having a locked boot loader, and that it was going to be a pain to root(if at all).

There is no logic in saying that my knocking of "Samsung/Verizon/Google/Android consortium" can be received as a knock on developers, and to state or imply that is flat out retarded. I will be immensely impressed if/when someone gets root on this phone.

I'm also certain that not a single person in this thread was aware that the download booster and Paypal fingerprint options were going to be disabled before launch.(but not on all carriers) While some have had the phone for some time are still unaware, and may never know because the feature isn't important to them, and the S5 will live on as an amazing device.

At what point would fanboys consider a concern reasonable? No 4K video? Just be happy with 720p. Can't make or receive calls? Tough **** for not knowning that was a possibility when buying the phone. Screen doesn't turn on? Oh well, you can still hear it, and it sounds ok. I suppose I'm just waiting for the apparent cult following to start referring to the disabling of functions as a "feature".
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] das7982:
All of you negative idiots have no clue. I've been developing and modding on Android since Donut and not once have I come across a device that couldn't be rooted. So shut up about root not coming because it will.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Whew, I was worried, but then an expert chimed in. I don't know what a mod is, but it sounds like something one needs to be an expert to do.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mexiken:
1. I don't have to look it up, I have already used it to authenticate me and conduct transactions. If you can't figure it out, tough poop for you.

4. Do you think ANYONE who CREATES Android cares about anything other than what leads to how best accomplish the company's goal, which is to serve you ads that make them BILLIONS of dollars a year???? Please. Get a clue dude.

You're just lost. I do hope you return the phone. I'd prefer not to count you among GS5 users. Hopefully you go troll the M8 forums.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
You, are a liar, and a pretty bad liar at that. It's because of liars like yourself, that determining the capabilities of this device are convoluted to stupid people. Thankfully, few are dumb enough to believe your bull****. If anyone is trolling, it is you.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jucytec:
Why is this thread still alive? Mods please close this pointless thread about 1 person's rant.

If you don't like it don't buy it. What are you trying achieve here? To persuade others to sell their S5 or to leave Verizon? Quit hating. Verizon was alway locking their phones in one form or another since the first nexus.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Mod's, please close this thread so that I may start another, until someone shows a hint of freedom from Samsung/Verizon programming. For God's sake I've never seen such a bunch of passive complacent people not lined up outside of an Apple store in my life. Experiencing a previously in-perceivable downside to a purchase is one thing, learning that advertised features are ACTIVELY being disabled by Verizon, is an entirely different thing. It is not unreasonable to question the motivations of such an action. I would put to you, your own logic, that if you see no purpose in this thread, move along, with the other sheep.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jucytec:
The hate is strong in this one.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Seriously. If everyone started a thread to vent, this place would be a mess. Everyone's goals and situations are different - if your not happy, by all means do something about it. But the rest of us dont want to hear it in the meantime.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Then ****ing move along, seriously.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] nicholi2789:
God forbid somebody express their opinions..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Or state facts, can't have that either. The message is clear, if you don't blindly worship Samsung and Verizon, you have no place here, go over to one of those other threads where logic and reason exist. No solutions, only rhetoric and denial.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ballisticevo:
Opinions are like assholes...

Personally if people here aren't for the device I would love them to return it. Flame fest like these have no productive results.

Mods please end this thread... most these users have the m8 now anyway.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
If this keeps up it will be closed I understand his point but if your not happy with samsung theres alot of other devs that have root/roms

Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Maphack:
After owning the HTC eris and learning where the water damage strip was on that phone I vowed to never buy another HTC device. S5 ain't bad and on the bring side, if the bootloader stays locked I won't waste so much time messing around with it like I did on my S3.

Sent from my SM-G900V using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mexiken:
See below.

You sir, are obviously mentally challenged as you can't figure something this simple out

Kindly leave this thread, return your phone, and let our collective Verizon GS5 IQ be raised a few points by you no longer owning one.

Trolls gonna troll....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] briantacker:
You're on Verizon? I don't have those options
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] nicholi2789:
Yes they certainly will. You are the only person consistently making insulting remarks. JP just stated the things that obviously irked him about this device and why he was disappointed. You turned it personal. In fact, I'm sure as soon as you read this you will post and say how I don't belong here and "go back to the m8 forums kook," and blah blah blah. It's people like you that make it so noone can have a constructive conversation in regards to something that is against the general consensus. If this topic bothers you so much, there's the door.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] detr0yt:
Bro.. you are so correct.. I sold my note 3 and took a huge loss... Nothing compares to Verizon's coverage.. along with Samsung products... But together they just suck! Never owned a HTC phone till now.. and honestly could not be happier.. this M8 is great! Completely unlocked already... This rally is a Solid phone.. and is going to have so much potential... I really think this is going to be "THE PHONE" to have and develope on... The sky is three limit now with this phone :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mchief298:
Samsung is just as much to blame, in all honesty. Yeah, I'm an M8 user. To be honest, I really wasn't a fan of HTC. I had ALL of last year's galaxies. The s4 was the one that I miss most (even if not much at all). I like being able to control what my device has, and what it can and can't do. The Note 3 I've owned twice. Put ss on and went to town.. But it's not enough. I don't understand why some of the people who posted even come to XDA if they don't care about rooting/unlocking their device. Kind of redundant don't you think?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Despite the differences in "open-ness" of the flagship phones of each carrier, I am ultimately going to end up sticking with the S5 until something comes along that offers more of what I'm looking for. I'm really not sure how this got turned into another S5 vs M8 thread. I'd never be able to get past the camera(s) on the M8, and rooting obviously ain't gonna fix that. After this exhaustive effort to bash all involved with making the S5 less than it can be, I've got nothing left to do but be content with the pro's of the phone, and major reasons for switching to the S5 in the first place. Though from the get go, I was a bit let down by rumors vs reality, rooted or not, it's still got major advantages (opinion) over the M8, previous s4, and anything else available.

Stating the obvious, The S5 Non-Developer-Edition is still faster, lighter, improved screen, much better still/video cameras, more durable/waterproof-ish, with a worthless fingerprint scanner and heart rate(probably higher towards the start of this thread) monitor. Features clearly all of which aren't going to require fiddling to utilize. I've got no loyalty to any particular company, but have ultimately arrived that for me, there simply isn't anything better right now.

Still have no clue how you got that PayPal fingerprint authentication working on Verizon Mexiken, and humbly accept the mentally challenged moniker. Though, I don't appear to be alone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] TechSavvy2:
Yeah, it is actually possible to activate the PayPal fingerprint scanner on VZW. I just did it. Its tedious process that has to be done in specific order. More to come...

First, uninstall PayPal from your phone. Android market version is not the right version.

Install Samsung Apps from sideload. Then search Sammy's app store for PayPal, install. Then search NNL fingerprint passport and install it. Then open the PayPal you installed, sign in, and you'll see options for fingerprint in two different locations. First place I saw it if I remember right wouldn't let me click it....but then after logging in and going to PayPal settings and register fingerprint, worked like a charm.

Settings, Accounts, PayPal, login options, register fingerprint. Must be done with the above stuff done as specified.

Sent from my Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Son of a ***** Samsung. Accessing the stock "Samsung Apps" through the "Galaxy App" widget directs to a completely different, unsearchable store. Why why why Samsung? See Attached screenshots (one searchable, one not)

To clarify the steps that I used,

1> To get an actual searchable Samsung App Store, download the "Samsung Apps Mobile" from the phone via www.samsungapps.com or HERE (This BS is what was holding me up)

2> Install the PayPal app via the Samsung App Store

3> Search and install NNL from the Samsung App Store

4> Open Paypal>Settings>Login Options>Register Fingerprint.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] shawnten:
HTC m8 is s- off. And a better built phone. Just swap out if you like development.