yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] full2000:
That's hit!

And it seems to be that all versions <= 2.8.0.0 are for Android 4.3. If you flash these versions on an Android 4.4.x Note3Neo, you will get a bootloop!

You can also check the size of the recovery to find out if it is for 4.3 or for 4.4.2:

recovery.img ~ 8 MB --> Android 4.3

recovery.img ~ 6..7 MB --> Android 4.4
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] bigbiff:
That's because they have different DTBs with different sizes.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] bigbiff:
Please try http://techerrata.com/bigbiff/openrecovery-twrp-2.8.4.1-hlltexx-4.4.img.tar

If it doesn't work, please provide the kmsg and recovery.log again.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] hokamp:
https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/cd4f825e

https://paste.tinyw.in/index.php/view/b72d2e1e
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] bigbiff:
Did you flash the new version. Your log has

ro.build.date=Tue Jan 13 08:30:50 EST 2015
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] Deltastylez:
I cant make a nandroid backup to my enternal SD card.

I gor a errno =13.

How can i solve this problem?

EDIT : For some reason I cant make a log?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] bigbiff:
You can try the test image I posted a few posts back.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] Deltastylez:
Sadly, I got the same errno=13

E:Failed to make backup folder.

I also cant make a log for some weird reason?

(Or am I doing something wrong?)
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] bigbiff:
adb pull /tmp/recovery.log in TWRP
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] ntt:
Hi,

TWRP 2.8.4.0 works but I got a error recovery message:

E: error sending message to remove storage 65539" this error showing ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] bigbiff:
You can ignore that error. It has been moved to informational only for the upcoming release.
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] lallo29:
Hi :)

This recovery work on SM-N7505? Work on 4.4.2?

Thanks in advace! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] ntt:
Yes, 2.8.5.0 works fine on my n7505 lte openrecovery-twrp-2.8.5.0-hlltexx-4.4.img(odin)

http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/hlltexx
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] lallo29:
Thanks;)
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] bigbiff:
Does 2.8.6.0 work?
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] ntt:
I installed, it works fine :good:

http://twrp.me/devices/samsunggalaxynote3neo.html
[Galaxy Note 3 Neo Original Android Development] Jymmy97:
Hi, have finally installed the "twrp-2.8.6.0-hlltexx-4.4.img" via Odin. No Problem. ;)

I'm in 4.4.2 with ROM STOCK N7505OXACOB1_XEF

And also 4.3 stock rom and 4.3 and 4.4.2 Custom ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
http://sxtpdevelopers.com/samsung-sch-i545-verizon-kit-kat/

here is the link for the OS

hope yall enjoy just sharing

1.45gb file:laugh: :laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Averix:
Any more details...?

Any idea on what exactly that file is? Having "noship" in the title makes me think it's some half baked internal build. Is it a Samsung file or a dumped ROM bundled up?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
Not sure, but back on the droid charge we had a ton of leaked internal builds for the gingerbread update, where stuff slowly started working and bugs got ironed out with each one.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
Not sure but on thier Twitter page they had screen shots I think it's an internal build I'm gonna try it later tonight will keep you posted
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ryanbg:
If you guys tell me what your ODIN Mode/Download Mode RP SWREV: Sx Tx Rx Ax Px flags are set to, I will tell you if you can downgrade back to 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
How to we find out what those flags are?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Snakehn:
any update on this, any good to flash? not rooted, not interested in root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
Ain't home yet to flash I don't know if any one else was brave
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
If I had a backup phone I would flash it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
I'm worried about root and going back to 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shawn12350:
Well i went ahead and installed this. I don't need or want root so I don't care about that. So far everything is running great. Will post back once i have a chance to fully test it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Snakehn:
Brave man, thanks for the update, which Odin did you use? 3.09?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
Before the night is over in flashing want too root one time as well
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shawn12350:
I used 3.07

---------- Post added at 04:17 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:13 AM ----------

Well have most of my accounts and apps installed and have found any bugs or had any issues so far. A few visual differences here and there. Boot animation is different. Keyboard looks slightly different and the status bar icons are all white and the lock screen looks a little similar to the S5 with the shortcut button on the bottom right hand corner. Other than that everything looks the same so far. It's definitely faster though but I haven't had a chance to put it to heavy use yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bajasur:
Hey guys,

Just a reminder to not mirror this file anywhere.

Please for the sake of development download only from their website.

Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Snakehn:
great info, thanks

about to flash it here.

one more question, since this is an unrooted rom from vzw, this will not trip the counter right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shawn12350:
I'm not sure someone with more knowledge than me will have to tell you but I'm fairly certain that it shouldn't.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MedleHed:
I'm flashing now with Odin 3.09. :laugh:

Update: Flash Completed Successfully!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
awesome

kool thats what i like to hear brave souls can any one check the flags on the phone in odin mode to know if we can go back to 4.3.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MedleHed:
I'm not exactly sure what you want, but Odin mode shows the following:

Product Name: SCH-I545

Current Binary: Samsung Official

System Status: Official

Knox Kernel Lock: 0x0

Knox Warranty Void: 0x0

CSB-Config-LSB: 0x30

Write Protection: Enable

eMMC Burst Mode: enabled
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] old&slow:
Check the development forum. [MENTION=1949695]jrkruse[/MENTION] has put together a flashable rom for the MDK folks.

Do not odin this if you want to keep your MDK bootloader!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
Well im back to the stock Google launcher
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] biglil1:
Differently wasn't gonna use Odin to flash; can't give up that bootloader.......lol!!!!!

Thanks a million for pointing me in right direction; must of over looked it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Redflea:
As he said, here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2721118

Running great!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
Wait you are on 4.4.2 with google now launcher and there is still no transparent status bar?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mitzael:
Has anyone noticed this? This is the first time I see this feature, but I didn't see any change mentioned on this screen
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bajasur:
This was also on 4.3

Happens if you take your phone into the sauna
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mitzael:
Never happened to me on 4.3, it means 4.4 overheats the phone more than 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
The status bar is transparent the wallpaper was just dark here is some other screen shots
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
Can't wait for root for 4.4 or a way to revert to 4.3. Would like the carrier unlock also.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
You mean teather unlock?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AJ26T:
I just want to know if I odin to this leak if I can odin back to 4.3 im stock 4.3 no root
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Last we heard from Surge he was looking into it. Said it might fail on system in odin. Probably best to wait on the devs to work it out. I look for development to pick up once the update is official and hopefully a root method.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jerrod22:
Currently, as of my understanding. No, it may be able to happen, but as of right now it sounds like people going back to 4.3 were running a rom with specific parts of this update installed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
I flashed it without thinking about safestrap to do it at least its stable but we wait for either a method to go back to 4.3 or the official 4.4 with root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
Are people having problems with this? Why all the talk about going back? It comes unrooted and that's a given...my status bar is transparent and am having no problems at all....would like root but knew it wasn't here yet and am hoping it will be soon but I don't know why people want to go back?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
Ikr it's working so well I just want root to get the gs5 touchwiz files working like they did on the note 3 and to get tethering back
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AJ26T:
I was just asking god for bid I need a exchange or something want to be able to go back to 4.3 if needed thats all
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
Yes
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heath2805:
Yep I seen this yesterday using gps for over an hour. Luckily I switched to ktoonsez kernel and haven't seen it since. Stock kernel doesn't play well I guess.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mitzael:
What do you did to get it rooted? Are you using it on MDK?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heath2805:
Sorry yes I am on mdk. Hopefully root happens soon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mitzael:
I hope it happens soon too. Honestly I don't understand why Verizon spare efforts on keep their devices locked as hell...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
I highly doubt you will need an exchange between now and may second when the official update is supposed to be released and im sure this build is close to final.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heath2805:
True....and if your screen stays hot you can technically make them replace it if it's under warranty.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mitzael:
I'm from Dominican Republic, I'm not the original owner, so I don't care warranty...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] shindiggity:
Battery life on the leak sucks for me, I wish I could go back to mk2!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
You mean tether unlock?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
Can someone confirm no ART support in this release? Sorry if it's been pointed out already, just poking around jkruses MDK version and don't see the option.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
No issues here on the leak. It's running great.

Battery life is great for me on the leak, better than MK2.

So you'r on a ROM made with the leaked files. Not exactly the same as leaked stock.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] teinwhite:
Yeah no option for that in the dev option area.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zero26800:
Just an observation. If you tap the wireless networks notifications when they are shown in the status bar and it takes you to wifi settings, the top left hand corner is the new gs5 wifi icon for a second then it switches back to normal. I don't remember this on previous versions and why does this happen? Any ideas? Is the old touch wiz literally skinned over gs5 touchwiz to make us feel old? haha Again this is stock, and with the current 4.4.2 leak.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
Yes I find parts of the ui is flatter as well
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ToxicSkin:
[MENTION=3014704]zero26800[/MENTION] I belive all of the toggles in the notification bar do that. Touchwiz KitKat looks like it was developed for the S5 first and had 4.3 thrown on top of it for the updates to the S4. Kinda how the build prop edit for the S4 can change it in to the S5's UI
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Anyone thats trying to downgrade back to VRUEMK2 can try this method I posted here
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] qudwis:
You are the Savior!!!!!!!! :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Got the upgrade to 4.4.2 + keep root method figured out and working. Uploading files now....:D
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
Sweeeeeeeeeeet
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bajasur:
Legend!

Great work Surge
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Downloading now. Going to try it out in the morning
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
Will the files be uploaded to this thread?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] djdio68:
Where is it posted?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] peppersu812:
It's invisible link. LOL
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] qudwis:
Can this be done from mk2?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] leandrae400:
sooo wheres the 4.4.2 + keep root
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
I haven't posted it yet

Yes

No, but i'll reply to this thread with a link to the thread that I post it in or to the dedicated thread I'll make
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] taz1458:
I'm on MJ7. Will I be able to use this?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] leandrae400:
cool...you da man
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
If we took this update will we have to downgrade then flash yours or will there be a root for this update?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sparatan117:
I kinda see why all the devs just say go read... that answer had been answered like 40 times already.

At least you're a good sport about it.

Looks promising though
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] peppersu812:
So what do we do if we are on safestrap? I'm still missing the hell out of my twrp recovery!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
[HOW-TO]Upgrade to 4.4.2 VRUFNC2 and keep root (for MJ7 and MK2 devices)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] T1geR086:
So, I had flashed the "leak" and it worked and tonight I got the bright idea to try to flash back to stock using a xda provided odin full wipe package. This failed, and the phone had a screen telling me the firmware update failed and to fix it (said use recovery mode in Kies) I flashed the leak again using odin, and that was a success. Soo.....am I stuck on the leak n ow or what should I do?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Surge put a link to his downgrade procedure 2 pages back. just odining with the mk2 tar file doesnt work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] T1geR086:
Ty. I should have looked closer / read more completely
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dhc1214:
Can anyone running this leak verify the SD card permission crap with KitKat is still there? If it is, I will not take the upgrade unless I know I can retain root, as the fix requires root access. I have several apps requiring write permissions to certain folders on my SD card. Losing that ability will cripple my phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Not sure on the leak file, but on the rooted deodexed stock rom that Surge posted it's fixed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Oishikatta:
Don't flash the leak, flash Surge1223's version. He's already fixed the sd card permissions and added root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jwendt79:
Just a quick question. If I were to install this leak and whenever verizon releases the actual update, and if by chance the actual update is not this nc2 version...will I be able to take an ota to update or will I have to wait till someone comes up with an odin tar for the new version?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jerrod22:
As far as I know yes. I'm not for sure on the S4, but I know before when I had a Bionic, you could always flash up, down was the only problem. So there should be no problem with this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jwendt79:
Thanks...but when u say yes...you meaning I will be able to take the ota to the new version or I'll have to Odin once the tar is avalable. I have a feeling the odin will work no matter what but was wondering it the ota will get pushed to my phone if I install this leak if the actual update is a different version
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jerrod22:
All depends on the version. You would be able to Odin. I don't totally remember with OTA after,I know if it turned out to be the official release then you would get future OTA's.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2727876

Anyone know if our s4 leak has the same vulnerability as the note 3 leak.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidjunkie:
Battery life seems good to me.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zero26800:
Which location options do you use? I still have problems with Google services when wifi location is on. Never found a fix for it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidjunkie:
There you go, never noticed a problem
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidjunkie:
And.......16 hours later is dead (well almost, lol)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shotjas:
So I took the plunge and flashed the leak. Granted, I am completely happy with the minor fixes, changes and am ecstatic that wallet works on Verizon (big finger showing here @ Big Red). However, I do not like the SDcard issues that come along with KitKat.

What I haven't seen, is a complete concise answer that those of us that have flashed our 100% stock, non-rooted, non-safestrap users can downgrade back to 4.3, root, safestrap and install the fixed leak. My best understanding is yes. But there obviously is some risk going backwards.

Btw: Thank you devs for the time, effort and work you put into our devices, whichever they may be.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
What sdcard issues? mine is working fine
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
The answer is yes, in fact thats the reason theres a downgrade method :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidjunkie:
What exactly is this so card issue? I don't even use my sd card for anything
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shotjas:
The SDcard issue is present in KitKat, across all devices that I am aware of. That Google changed the permissions and how apps can write to the SD card. Take for example, in 4.3 you could have any camera app installed and tell it to save the pictures to the SD card. In 4.4, you get an error because the same camera app (including ones you've purchased) do not have permissions to write to the SD card anymore. I believe the theory behind changing this was to prevent apps from installing all over the place (system, storage and extsd). However, the practice of it is a bit over reaching and not applied in the best method or manner possible. Additionally, if you try to create a folder on your SD card in say Root Explorer (yes it works without being rooted too, its a great app), you will get an operation failed because the app doesn't have permission to write to the SD card. I purchased my S4 on the sole basis of the features it had: 1. SD card to expand (video, pictures, music, apps) and 2. removable battery. If I didn't care about those things, I'd have bought a HTC One or (god forbid) an iPhone. If you haven't heard of the SD card permissions (the issue) then you haven't really been reading much on the updates between 4.3 and 4.4. There is quite the uproar concerning this single "issue" with SD card permissions.

Thank you for the direct answer I was looking for. You sir are a god amongst men.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] droidjunkie:
I haven't had any problems with it. And I'm pretty sure the regular user won't know the difference and since the regular user out numbers the tech savvy I'm pretty sure Google won't consist this an issue and will leave it be.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
Not to start anything but i just took a picture with the kitkat camera and it saved to my sdcard with no problem and i just opened es file explorer and created a folder on my sdcard named folder1 with no problem at all....maybe not everyone has this issue? I'm not doubting anyone just saying I don't have this problem
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shotjas:
Are you using the Samsung Camera? It has no issues writing to the SD card. If you use an app like Camera Zoom FX+ (paid), it cannot write to the SD card. I haven't used ES File Explorer since ICS, been using Root Explorer (more functionality). Additionally, the KK Camera+ (formerly JB Camera+) can't write to the SD card either. Worked fine in 4.3, was updated to work for 4.4 - however with the new permissions, it cannot.

Further, I have to ask - are you 100% stock, not rooted, not safestrap and running the ALL_VZW_I545VRUFNC2_I545VZWFNC2_989434_REV06_user_low_noship_MULTI_CERT.tar flashed in Odin? We know Surge1223 created a pre-rooted 4.4.2 Leak install (including downgrade method). If you're 100% stock with leaked file, then I don't know what to say. The 5 galaxy s4's that are in this house all say otherwise that they cannot write to the SD card, as permitted in 4.3.

If you're still wondering, here's an article about it (the changes in 4.4 from 4.3) http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] teinwhite:
I'm on all stock on the leaked 4.4.2 and ProCapture can't write to the SD card. ES File Explorer can create, delete, move things around on the SD card without issue.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Poofster:
OK got ya.....yeah I used the stock camera cause that works good enough for me and es file explorer does work on sd card....I was on 4.3 rooted with SS.. I uninstalled SS then Flashed this leaked file only...(miss being rooted..hope there is a simple root method soon)..but yes I'm completely stock now...the only thing was after the flash I had a Baja (rom) wallpaper (which after changing is gone) but I think when I uninstalled SS I was using that wallpaper and guess it carried over and if it matters I didn't remove my sd card when I flashed the leak...Thanks for the info....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] trident123:
My micro-USB port no longer works is there anyway to install this without hooking up to my computer and using ODIN. I am not rooted either, running 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lagvoid:
If you're rooted

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2721118
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
Same issue here. Not a big deal though as I move all my pics to different folders on my card anyhow.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Paramemetic:
Not being able to write to SD card is a 4.4 "feature," they removed the ability to write to SD cards except within specific permissions for apps. So an app can only write to SD in a folder designated for that app. It's designed to prevent people from installing apps and so on just wherever they want, but it's basically ****. There is a fix for it if you're rooted though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Redflea:
Anyone on this release, not rooted, are you able to use foxfi to tether?

I need to talk my wife out of taking the update without rooting if foxfi doesn't work, since she needs to be able to tether.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] scryan:
Isnt there a pre-rooted version out by surge? haven't really looked into myself but have seen that mentioned a few times.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cbmggm:
Pre-rooted KK:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2726868

[HOW-TO]Upgrade to 4.4.2 VRUFNC2 and keep root (for MJ7 and MK2 devices)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
Im running surge's pre rooted version with no problems.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coycaine:
Well official has dropped! Time to see if it is the leak or not.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 3aucla1r3:
I noticed that the kernel date was later than the leaked version.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gramenz:
Currently running the leak....software check says up to date. Will I need to ODIN back to 4.3 to take the official update?

Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] cbmggm:
It's official 4.4.2 / NC5

http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...10-verizon-s4-update-coming-down-now-ota.html
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] molivas37:
I'm in the same boat. Running this leak and it says I'm up to date. everyone around me running 4.3 all got the update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
Can anyone look under about phone and tell me what Se Linux for Android is if its permissive or enforcing on nc2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Enforcing on NC2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
Thanks was hoping it was like the note 3 leak it's permissive