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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
That's really all I was looking for too. 4.4 itself is pretty much a snooze. From a features perspective it provides better management of location and Wi-Fi settings but that's pretty much it. I'm glad Samsung updated the notification drop down and UI so it's more appropriate for a 10" tablet; parts of it looked goofy in 4.3.

The function of the capacitive buttons hasn't changed in 4.4 so long pressing the home button brings up tasks. I'm glad it stayed the same. Quick access to app settings is handy; especially now that devs seem to be putting them at the top of their apps.

Region content restrictions due to copyright applications. That and Samsung offers different add-ons based on the market. As an example, someone in another thread was going on and on about how great the latest P601 ROM from Guatemala was so I installed it. It came with about a dozen trial EA games that worked only in portrait mode and didn't allow access to anything other than Samsung Books in Samsung Hub which means I lost access to my videos. It was also for the carrier Claro and had their icons replacing Samsung's for apps and their boot screen which looked like a chicken on fire. There can be huge content differences between different regional ROMs so if there is Samsung stuff you use tread lightly as it could be gone.

It's pretty clear we got a maintenance update to 4.4 and very few features from the Pros. Most of the stuff that's missing is available via APK somewhere. After being on the Pro boards for a while I'm not exactly upset we didn't get an exact copy of what they got. M-UX in its deployed (vs. shown at CES) state is nothing to write home about and a task vs. menu capacitive button isn't a big deal; at least to me having used Samsung's menu button implementation for over two years now on half a dozen different devices.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] cantfindanick:
i noticed there is a new locking style added, or did not noticed before.

Signature (Low Safety)

requires you to draw your signature with your pen, also requires you to set a pin just in case
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] GldRush98:
Wondering if my only 2 complaints with 4.3 are fixed in 4.4:

1) Does the notification shade still lag when you pull it down?

2) Is there a screen on lag still?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
1) it is fast. Absolutely no lag here

2) not a big lag, but for me it is like 0.5 sec or 1 second

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] toyanucci:
Standby battery life has Donatella improved! Usually the best of her overnight is losing 1% every 6 hours. This is with wifi off. I unplugged last night at midnight as it was fully charged and went to bed. 9 hours later is still at 100% :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kbboykin:
So what would you estimate would be the likely time frame the US might expect this. I'm in no hurry either, but just curious.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] flathunt:
Can anyone confirm if you're able to write to the SD Card on a stock, unrooted 4.4 install? Can you move apps to the SD Card? In short, is there still any point in having an SD Card?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] just_luc:
That requires rooting the device and changing the build prop to emulate the note pro 12.2

I haven't confirmed if doing that also brings up the enhanced keyboard and the 4 way multitasking. I would very much like to know that myself.

Apparently it does allow you to download hancom office from the Samsung store.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
I have posted all of this in the Themes & Apps Section of this forum.

The new Keyboard is available, 4 way multiwindow is since 4.3 available.

BUT you have to be rooted.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] just_luc:
That's good to know, thank you. So then it's just back to the question of whether or not I want to root a 600 dollar tablet that still has 11.5 months of warranty on it. :/
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] TWEAKiMP:
Because of the bloatware. It really drives me insane to not be able to delete the stuff I dont need. With root and a custom ROM your system is lighter, more fluid and has a longer battery life.

For me that is more important than the warranty. :cyclops:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] monicakm:
Any camera enhancements?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
No clue. It's odd that Colombia of all countries was first to receive it. Samsung has development facilities in Poland and India so a lot of times they're the first to receive an update. The UK and Germany are also favored. The U.S., with or without carrier involvement, always seems last. But the U.S. P-600 did receive multi user first and it ended up being only. Usually when a roll out begins other versions (LTE, 3G) and regions follow suit pretty quickly. That is unless Samsung chose Colombia as Guinea pigs and results collected there determine whether the ROM's "done" and/or the global roll-out schedule.

All just my opinion of course... ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Elim:
Rooted: Maybe no screen mirroring possible

Like the situation before and on the pro, some (like me) loose the possibility for screen mirroring ("Can't started because of a hardware issue") and for Kit-Kat exists NO fix until now.

Beside this I am very happy with the new firmware but still wondering why some stuff is changed and other are not. On some places it looks un-finished.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] TabGuy:
I know this might be answered somewhere but I can't find it.

1. Do I need root to install this upgrade via Odin?

2. Will the update trip the Knox flag?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] poplectic:
Thank you. A chicken on fire! I nearly choked on my coffee! It conjured up such a funny image!

Sent from my alphanumeric pager
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
1) no. Download the firmware, download Odin v3 , put your tab into download mode, start odin, load the tar.md5 firmware into the AP slot in odin, connect your tab to your p, wait until all drivers are installed, start the flash progress. Wait. Enjoy

2) No :)

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] just_luc:
Being the newbie on this board and also to android I don't know what issue others were having or what to look for perhaps.. but I tried copying various files and folders both to and from an SD card and didn't have any issues.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
Depends on the app. Systemapps have no problem but user apps may have problems

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Smac7:
wake lag is gone

notification bar is improved and lag is gone here too!

generally feels smoother

snote now has zoom handwriting

visual touchwiz changes throughout

that's what i noticed right away. also, i can't tell for sure, but it seems like multi window is faster, maybe because of more ram.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] scarmona:
I'm very interested in this too. Will the SD card slot be of any use to unrooted users? If not, is the fix as easy as modifying build.prop?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] lecorbusier:
You can still copy media files to the sd, via a sync suite or with a card reader, and players will read them. It should be a bit like the goode olde Nokia S40 experience.

Everything is handled via a pc, that is. Oldskool. Probably you cannot even delete such files w/o a usb/wifi pc connection.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] toyanucci:
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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jmwils3:
Maybe I'm just missing something, but is lock screen widgets missing from the KK update for anyone else? I cant seem to find the feature anywhere, and certainly not where it was located in the 4.3 firmwares.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] TDrkKnight:
Does the mod for flashplayer on JB and Dolphin browser works?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] scanto:
Hi,

Is it now possible to have multiple users on the tablet, as this was not possible in the latest available firmware in germany.

Thanks

Scanto
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] elzeus:
Thanks for the overview. I lol'd when you said "It gives me pie".:laugh:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] MarrowK:
Yes it is possible now to add multiple users with restricted profiles, and also flash player is working just fine, checked in firefox browser.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] DocFreeDom:
Myfiles still lagging ? :D
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] hpblze:
Added Note Pro Features .

I just added Note Pro Keyboard and Note Pro Recent Apps Switcher and Note Pro Notification Drop Down to the New Kitkat Rom !

This Tablets getting better and better with a few more tweaks ..

You guys should check this Link to know more !!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2721077
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Elim:
No, it is completely re-designed, better then ever and I didn't have any lags any more (before a start takes up to 1 minute at the end).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jmwils3:
I'm also loving the updated s-note interface :) haven't played around to see everything that's new in it, but it now works with notes from my older note tablets, which is a good sign.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] yararli:
Is snote as smooth as it is in galaxy note 3 or lecture notes

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jmwils3:
I dont have a note 3 or make much use of lecturenotes, modtly due to the habit of using snote, but it does seem much smoother and more polished than previously seen on this device on 4.3
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] yararli:
O god isn't there quadrature windowed mode again ? What did samsung do ? Only visualised and a bit fastened the system? Is this a joke?

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] boshindo:
Anyone else having problem with bluetooth shares? Before update I was able to move files via bluetooth between this and my note 3 but now they don't see each other as available bluetooth devices.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] pump142:
Is Bluetooth fixed? I. So sick of the drop out with keyboards
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Elim:
I don't have any issues with the search, connection and data transfer. But my mouse (I expect the same for keyboards) still drops after some seconds...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] kornelius1982:
Seems it is Note Pro (and above) only feature and probably we will never get it work on 10" screen.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dr.m0x:
Is this a joke? Improvements are subtle but they are still improvements.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Elim:
There is a mod (need rooted) which works also with KitKat (also the app didn't say so).

Here: Multiwindow plus

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Beside my opion that the 4-multiwindow is only a gimmick, this must be a joke because (a) it is kitkat, (b) has user management, (c) a much nicer and cleaner touchwiz, (d) many bug fixes and for all (e) speed improvements and as extras (f) newer versions of some stock apps and (g) a cleaner notificationbar. So, who really need then this multiwindow gimmick?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] yararli:
Changes in Stock 4.4

İ dont see any achievment with this upgrade for waiting many customer for a year. It is only tablet of samsung can be compared with ipad and has a plus than ipad which is pen.But they dont want to improve and take it in a good position because they want to make customers focus on pro note however they still dont understand notepro's size is not suitable to use in daily life. They should make their specifications as same as each other then it can be an improvment. But now it is so far away from this approach.

And i think old note 10.1 has a better usage. I used it as my pc i did not need my laptops. But this 2014 note 10.1 is not as qualified as the old one. All times there is a lag or shut down apk suddenky problem. Snote is not smooth it is coming after it is written , it is not exact simultaneously show what u did write. No flash in stock internet browser , no permition to root because odin, no permition to sd cart because of google, no permition to access main storage to use some works . I fed up with their policy. They ruined android by their unlogical preventions. Android should have been open source code operating system for users, but now it is decreased because of google and other companies to resemble with apple. Android shouldnt have been bought by google, it changes and downgrades all important special features which could have done without root. I dont like samsung anymore and dont think to buy any device anymore until i see all customers are satisfied their products.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
Huh? It was released in October, 2013, which makes it six months from launch when it got 4.4. And out of the long list of devices Samsung promised 4.4 for it was first (not counting the N3 and SGS4 which were being upgraded before the list was published).

Why? They cost the same and Samsung makes the same margin. The only more profitable tablets than the N10.1-14 are the 12.2 inchers.

Huh? 10" Android tablets have never sold well. Cheap 7/8" tablets are the majority of Android tablets sales. Apple owns the large format tablet space with the iPad/iPad Air. If you look at the 12.2 forums they aren't exactly bustling with activity. If 10" isn't large enough for you buy a 12". But don't assume everyone feels the same way. For me, 10" is the perfect balance. I can still get productivity work done and have the portability I view as important.

As for quad screen multi view, sure, I'd like to have it. Would I use it? Probably not. The windows would be too small (at least for me) on a 10" display. The Tab Pro 10.1 doesn't have quad screen multi view either.

This I agree with and was hoping for. Samsung could have brought the N10.1-14 up to "Pro level" with this update. To a certain extent they did. From what people are reporting we got all the UI updates with the exception of M-UX. The value of M-UX is debatable anyway since a large portion of its features were omitted between being shown at CES and appearing on production devices. And the reason we didn't get it may have more to do with converting existing users to it when they are already using more "standard" home screens than there are standard/M-UX home screens combined. The only other things that seem to be missing (so far) are the updated keyboard and Pro-specific apps like Hancom and e-Meeting. In a way, this update's perfect for me. I get the performance improvements of 4.4, the "freshening" of TW from the Pros, and don't have to reconfigure the way I use my device.

No offense, but you're out of your mind. I had a N8000 for over a year and there's no comparison between the two. The old one was heavy, big, and shiny. The 147 PPI display was embarrassing from the start and downright painful to use. The original Note 10.1 was smoother in some regard but with the CPU/GPU only pushing 147 PPI that's not really a challenge. I used my N8000 as a laptop replacement about 25% of the time. I'm up to 50+% on the N10.1-14

You're entitled to your opinion (everyone here is) but don't assume it represents the "world."
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] samcortez:
Can someone record a video using s note? I'm curious about the changes.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] reubenskelly1992:
Just root and there's an app that allows you to do 4 way multi window
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] pierrekid:
Unlock screen animation is back. Also you simply swipe from the right to open multi window, no need to hold the back button anymore. Keyboard had no lag opening now when clicking on text box.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
Can someone check a few things? For those with Hancom installed, does the Hancom Viewer app work now? It works on my 4.4 N3 but is borked on my N10.1-14. Does Hancom recognize external storage (even with 4.4 limitations) now? Does SideSync 3.0 show up in Samsung apps or Play for download?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Elim:
What wonder didn you expect from this update? I didn't understand any of your points and most of your critic is gone with this update. Therefore I am not sure that you really discuss this update here.

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Its only some post above yours: post #45

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Which one and which version? I ask because they also work on 4.3 for me.

No, there is still no direct link (version 9.50). Maybe I have to update... Edit: I have already the latest version.

Yes, in the playstore.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
Not the three individual viewers, the master viewer that's kind of a document manager.

9.50 is the latest version those that aren't rooted can use. All those afterward do a device check before opening.

Hancom recognizes external storage on my N3 (in its own created directory)...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] samcortez:
I have seen it but S Note app was not open.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Sudbury78:
Damn all of you that I may have to go buy this again. haha! Someone posted before but it was not answered... did this update remove the lock screen widgets that were nowhere to be found on the tab/note pro? I am assuming its a 4.4 thing which would be very disheartening. I love my lock screen widgets on my note 3. Thanks
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
The cascading multi view windows of the N10.1-12 were replaced with Pen Window which I use all the time. Particularly the browser, Hancom, and dialer apps. So if I'm doing something in an app that's not multi view enabled I can lay those three apps over it and shrink them to icons so they're always available even if I'm not using them. Speaking of which, can someone check and see if more Pen Window apps were added? I think there were more added in the Pro's. Pop-up-play lets you watch video no matter what app you're in, whether you're using Pen Window, or are in multi view. You can also now save paired apps which is great for things like File Manager; especially now that you can drag-and-drop across apps. I kind of miss cascade view also but the new approach provides a lot more features and versatility; IMHO.

I love the new S Note because it better supports the way I take notes which is to handwrite like a chicken and then later transfer what I need to other apps like Outlook and Word in text. The handwriting recognition is 10x better than in the original S Note and being able to lasso and convert only what I need is perfect (for me). Now that S Finder searches on handwriting I don't need to convert to text and that process seems to be the biggest issue for people comparing the two versions. And desktop S Note for viewing, editing, and creating S Note and synching with my devices is the greatest thing since sliced bread and was the missing piece of the note taking puzzle (for me).

Also, you can blame Google vs. Samsung for the absence of Flash support and the screwed up 4.4 external SD approach that we all have to live with.

I don't think any of us that bought the N10.1-14 before the Pro's were announced were any too happy about the newer devices getting features we didn't have. But it's not like the N10.1-14 was a piece of crap to begin with. I love my N10.1-14 and am kind of glad M-UX wasn't included because of its intrusive mandatory home page requirement. Also, with M-UX, there's still reports of some stutter and lag on the Pro forums. From what people are here are saying devices may perform better without it. I have Hancom which, to me, is the biggest benefit missing between the N10.1-14 and the Pro's. Everything else except e-Meeting is available on XDA or via Samsung Apps or Play. I tried Remote PC but it's not as good as what I was using (Jump Desktop which shockingly has better S Pen support) and only supports a single remote PC connection which is frankly stupid. SideSync 3.0 works on the N10.1-14 now so what else is missing? I like the new keyboard but I'm also fine with the current one. Like I said before, quad window multi view is only available on the 12" tablets so we wouldn't have gotten that any way, the 10" Pro didn't.

So based on what's in the update I'm feeling OK. Everyone else's mileage may vary. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
I've had them since day one...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Sudbury78:
interesting as to why they were gone from the new tab pro/note series. Good to know though.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
My bad. I read your question too fast and thought you were saying the widgets weren't there in 4.3. I'm still on 4.3 so don't know if they're still there in the new 4.4 ROM. I'm guessing they are either because of the absence of M-UX and/or the fact it's kind of hard to take things away people already have. From people's RAM usage postings on 4.4 here and comments like "N3 fast" I'm assuming M-UX is kind of a resource hog. There are plenty of lag and stutter reports in the Pro forums and this crowd, which can be tough, seems to be pleased. So maybe the widgets were pulled in the Pro's to save resources. Pure guess on my part.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Sudbury78:
No problem. I just Googled the issue and apparently the setting to turn on the lock screen widgets is in security on 4.4 when they were in display on 4.3 etc. Good to know in case I purchase this tablet again. I'm waiting for the us roll out before I jump again.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Nosaiyare:
Has anyone else noticed the s pen behaves differently as it approaches the edge of the screen. Instead of offsetting it seems to snap on a grid, making it much more accurate
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] flathunt:
Well I had to apply the firmware to find out but it's no change, you can copy to and from the card and you can move apps to SD card, result...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] MarrowK:
Currently these are all the stock pen enabled windows apps.

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] GldRush98:
Does pen window manager work to add additional apps to the pen window on 4.4?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
When you say "currently," do you mean the 4.4 update or 4.3? I have a SM-P601 so mine may have been different even on 4.3. Here's my 4.3 Pen Window options. Chrome's available but I have it disabled. I hope you do mean 4.4 expanded the choices; I'd love to have the additional apps in your screen shot available. I wonder if Messaging made it? That's one I really want but I guess we won't know until the 3G's get 4.4.

EDIT:

Holy crap. I saw your post and noticed the "edit" caption in the previous screen cap. I'm assuming all the apps displayed at the bottom of the screen cap can now be added to Pen Window. That's amazingly cool and is a better option than the missing cascade option in multi view discussed previously.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] pierrekid:
I don't know if this was in 4.3 but you can now manually adjust the size of the pen window by clicking on the bottom, right or left of the screen. Also you can add a ton more apps to the screen.

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Barry you should add a feature list to the OP as we discover this stuff so people don't have to tear through pages to find individual feature add-ons
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] pierrekid:
Anything else guys?