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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I thought so. Oh well. Long time lurker here, but rare contributor. I would do anything I can to help. I would love to eventually load Cyanogenmod or AOKP, but for now I really just need WiFi tethering and Titanium. I knew it wasn't rooted when I bought it, but I ignorantly assumed that it wouldn't take too long.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
We have hotspot on the Verizon GS5. Unless you're not on a shared plan.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
It is a company assigned/owned phone, so not likely technically on a shared plan. It says I"m not signed up for it when I try to enable it. Yes, I am allowed to root it or do what I like with it. Hope I can help somehow. I'm certainly above average intelligence with respect to operating systems (it is my job), but finding exploits in Android devices is certainly not my area.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Check out several posts earlier about the IRC channel if you want to lurk there while the occasional exploit gets posted for testing. I started checking the channel and testing on my own.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] MWFD:
Dude you took the words out of my mouth and we share the same exact sentiment.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
There has to be an exploit... I just got a pop up asking me to download a security update. I bet Samsung found the hole before we did. Of course I declined that jazz quicker than a scared jackrabbit on speed.

Also am I the only one here getting annoyed with everyone in this thread that either bought a different device or another carrier showing up and pretty much saying "nanananabooboo screw verizon's s5 I have root"

It's like, we get it other devices and other carrier's versions have root. That isn't helping us right now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BatesUKfanJ:
I've been getting the security update since monday. All day everyday. I hate to jump ship but not sure what to do without root. It's like Crack for me and this phone.lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sureshot007:
I came from an S3 as well, and I'm either going back to the S3, or picking up the S4. I can still root an S4 on verizon, right?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BPHusker:
Pretty sure the current firmware is locked down, but not completely sure.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
Pretty sure s4 is locked down too right now.

I'm planning to give it a bit... worst case scenario tmo will buy out my contract and I'll have an unlocked s5 a few months from now lol I just don't want to give up hope a week after launch haha
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
I don't know why they care. It hasn't even been a week yet. They're just jealous because they don't know how to get rid of that atrocious bottom bezel or take a decent picture.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ballisticevo:
Love my device I doubt I would even flash a rom. I would just make sure I got tether working that would be about it...

And this is coming from someone that flashed roms weekly on my Galaxy s3.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Tether, root, tibu are all I care about.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
Same here. I just want to debloat this mofo and play with a few things. Though, on this hardware I'd love to see what aosp could do...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaplngrillsgt:
I just want to be able to remove bloat. Maybe use JuiceDefender to extend the already amazing battery life.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sipple31:
Anyone ran the bloatkill zip method on this hog?

ref: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2058944
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsachi:
Don't try any custom installations from recovery before you have root. Best case, nothing happens. Worse case - you brick your phone and Verizon will know that you messed with it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raziel36:
Anyone know how swapping a S5 for M8 would work if I bought 2, using the BOGO special and my wife wants to keep her S5? I've got over a week to decide, and hoping for something to happen here to make me keep this phone, but root is a must. As petty as it seems, lcd density edits alone will make me hate this phone. I could live without roms and tibu, but I'm used to significant changes to density. Stock just looks ugly and bloated.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] blacknet101:
Thinking of doing the same thing, my understanding is that with the BOGO deal, is get one S5 and get either a S5, M8 for free, So im sure you would only have to pay the Restocking Fee and that's it :D But thinking of doing the same, love the S5 but it's amazing how the M8 was unlocked so fast.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
[quote name="raziel36" post=51993566]Anyone know how swapping a S5 for M8 would work if I bought 2, using the BOGO special and my wife wants to keep her S5? I've got over a week to decide, and hoping for something to happen here to make me keep this phone, but root is a must. As petty as it seems, lcd density edits alone will make me hate this phone. I could live without roms and tibu, but I'm used to significant changes to density. Stock just looks ugly and bloated. <br />

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Thinking of doing the same thing, my understanding is that with the BOGO deal, is get one S5 and get either a S5, M8 for free, So im sure you would only have to pay the Restocking Fee and that's it :D But thinking of doing the same, love the S5 but it's amazing how the M8 was unlocked so fast.<br/>

This is correct.

But I wouldn't pull that trigger just yet...firstly you have 2 weeks secondly I feel we'll have root within the next few days.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
It's almost here

Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
what is?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] odub303:
The best news you could have possibly hoped for.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Do you guys know something I don't or we just playing tricks over here? :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] odub303:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2721505
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Oh haha, I think this theory was already busted.

https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/456972152198033408
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpinsl:
Best Buy, Costco, Amazon are all offering one of those phones for $99 which is still a better deal than Verizon's BOGO at $200, because there is no rebate involved.

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S4 has root. Boot loader is still locked. There's a work around to install ROMs though using safestrap.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hibby50:
Check out the last post... Looks like he posted the keys! This Qualcomm root thread looks promising. Now someone smarter than me either get us root or tell me I'm wrong lolol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilbeef54:
Great news to read that, I am probably returning my Sprint GS5 tomorrow and switching to Verizon... after 13 years with Sprint, glad to see that root may be coming soon to Verizon, Sprint was lucky enough to have chainfire's root a few hours after release... can't wait to finally get on a network that can support this phone
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Elite49:
Lots of hope coming from this lately, last time I saw it like this was with the X2. That turned out to be a bunch of bull, but hoping this is legit.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Busted or stunted? It seems that's we're closer just not home free... Or maybe not?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaplngrillsgt:
In a later tweet he said "by popping hte bubble i was saying that you still need the private key as well as the signed hex files". So not saying it won't work, just that there is more work to be done first. I'm feeling hopeful. If this works I will be going to Best Buy immediately to get my S5 then promptly donating to the OP of the developer thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Yea saw that... seems that its definitely progress
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
Ive had my morning coffee.....hoping for an exciting day. Been following most of the threads mentioned. Seems exciting. I sort of understand but not 100%. Learning is fun :) The IRC is quiet though
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaplngrillsgt:
Hoping for an Easter miracle
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
The dev still seems pretty confident in this solution despite jcase's comment about the keys. This would be a huge accomplishment, as this supposedly would provide an unlocked boot loader, which was the least likely level of access we would achieve. Moreover this would supposedly work for all of Samsung's (US) devices such as the Note3 and locked versions of the S4.

Let's just hope it's real, I'm not going to believe it until I see it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
For those of you who don't know, jcase is a security specialist / exploit hunter (released Loki). I'd like to hear him chime in on here, giving his 2 cents after looking at the posted qualcom file / prospects.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
exactly. Im just excited there is something to talk about. From a security side of the fence i have no idea how any of this would work. I know a little on the dev side so im excited to be able to tweek some things and im sure Beans will have some bang up roms for the S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BlueHarford:
jcase did not release loki. drjbliss did. https://github.com/djrbliss/loki

jcase did the motochopper or whatever that was was called
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
Ah yes, my bad... i had those two reversed in my head - jcase did do motocopper. Nonetheless, jcase is probably one of the more well versed folks on here in terms of this security stuff and hopefully can meaningfully parse what's been posted.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
Oooo the excitement. Hard not to get my hopes up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Sprint tester needed

Webchat.freenode.net

#sgs5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
Is sh*t about to get real?

I'm scared. Someone hold me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Lol let's not get our hopes up but try and help best we can... And if this DOES come to fruition make sure to donate to the guys that spend their SPARE time on this for us!!

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Sprint testers ONLY

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
No this has nothing to do with root, or unlocking the boot loader. And it's probably unlikely you will get many Sprint testers in a VZ forum.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
Word. You know I will man..keep us posted.

Okay cranky pants. Sorry for assuming it was related, you know, being that it's in this thread and all... guess a chuckle was too much to ask for these days.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Considering there was a rooted sprint user in here I figured I'd let him know...didn't think it had anything to do with root...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
I was just providing information on the subject to avoid misunderstanding. Strange that you took it as something negative.

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This post by jcase may dampen spirits though...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52009203&postcount=21
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
I wouldn't count anything out just yet. I suspected this is all good info and might lead to something, maybe not right now but sooner then later. I think we just need to all be a bit more patient.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
It's always good to hear that people are actually working toward a solution. I'm not counting anything in or out, just sharing information.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
Yup 100% agree. I just wish (and im sure more are in this boat) that i could understand it more and actively work on figuring it out. I'm more then happy to guinea pig my device (most of the time)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
Damn, you quoted me before I could fix my grammar!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Razzzzer:
lcd density... do you mean pixel density? isn't the phone like 432 per inch... and isn't that pretty far past the human eyes ability to differentiate??

each to his own I guess... as long as the s5 goes to 11 ill be happy. ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] s'pht:
I'm just hoping root comes soon. Without it I can't move my Google Authenticator stuff from my S3, can't run TiBu, can't disable ads, etc... The closest I've found to being able to move data is Helium but a bunch of apps have adb backup disabled (like the aforementioned Google Authenticator).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
I'm assuming you use Google auth for more than just Google? Google offers the option of switching devices in two step settings
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] s'pht:
Indeed, I have about 10 different accounts on there. The "fix" is to disable multifactor auth and then reenbable it using the new phone... Or keep the s3 in my pocket until root comes out.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BatesUKfanJ:
I traded mine back yesterday for the M8. My wife didn't want to trade her s5 back. It wasn't a problem and I first ask the guy at Verizon if I could do it he said I would have to pay the 35$ restocking fee. When we were done he told me that I didn't have to pay it and was credited 18$ for some reason.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raziel36:
No.. the pixels are not changeable. What LCD density changes do is more along the lines of changing the resolution, much like going from 800x600 to 1280x1080 on your PC. It utilizes the screen much better and just plain looks better to me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jpmcnown:
Agreed, as seen as Per-App-Dpi settings in Xposed modules.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
Thought on 'centralizing' support for rooting process

I was thinking about this a little more. We all want this to happen, but there are companies that need this to happen. Companies like Titanium have paid products that require devices to be rooted. I have no idea if they already support the various rooting efforts that are out there. If not, I was thinking of creating a page, blog, etc to help give them the information they need to donate, assist, or do whatever they can to encourage and help the routing efforts. Anyone have any thoughts on that? I want to make sure the people that need this to happen are able to assist the people that put the effort in to make this happen. Thoughts?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
I love the idea. I myself am anxiously waiting for this. Sadly though I feel our desire is not as big of an issue for these "companies" /people. We are a minority. We are one device on Vzw/att and crackflashers that haven't already jumped to a more mod-friendly phone.

Don't get me wrong I'm more than willing to contribute any efforts or contribution to the cause.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
We are one device now, but if it fails to get rooted, the trend will continue. If Verizon and Samsung are able to keep their bloatware on there, they will. Others would likely follow suit. If people who want root learn to live without root, that will eat into Titaniums profits. I'm just using them as an example. They should care with a $.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
+1
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I don't really know how to 'show' who is working on what root, verify it was done, etc. I'm following the conversation where the developers are working on the VZW S5 because I have an interest. I would just like to make something where we can publicly acknowledge (if they desire) the people doing the work, and publicly acknowledge (if they desire) people or companies that support them.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Where are you following? IRC?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Maphack:
Clever thought. I just don't know how much it would eat into most company's profits at this point. I mean, I don't see a significant number of people who have suddenly decided to switch OS's and root or current Android users that suddenly want to root.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Actually I didn't do loki nor motochopper. Dan did both of those. I did a number of other ones.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I know it isn't going to kill them tomorrow, but it would hurt them over time if the list of un-rootable devices grew.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kameleongt:
Root debloated ROM is all I'm waiting for. Might pick up an m8 until then though I'm so impatient
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I'm not following any secret location. I was told this would apply to the S5 as well, so I'm watching here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2721505&page=3

and the IRC channel #sgs5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaplngrillsgt:
Did they make the other thread where the developers were discussing root private? I was subscribed to it but it doesn't show up anymore and i can't seem to find it anywhere.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsachi:
I think that is an exaggeration. Motorola had a couple of phones that were locked to the point that when an exploit was found there was no development on them. That didn't end up starting a trend.

Regarding titanium, it's not a company with lots of resources. It's a guy who wrote a program and started selling it. It may be a little bigger now, but I wouldn't count on him having resources to try and crack the Verizon s5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I don't know.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] catfishbillyhere:
where did this post go?

I been following this post too and now the link is no longer active??

thanks. thanks for everyone's efforts. i miss adfree and game guardian. ;-(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I'm just speculating. I could certainly be wrong. I was just using Titanium as an example. He has 52,000 downloads in the play store. If unrootable devices became much more popular, I would think it would eat into his sales. There are many other paid applications that require root access. I was not implying they could crack the VZW S5, but I thought maybe we could give these app owners a place to contribute to the people that that make it possible for their applications to function. Just an idea. If one root hunter replies and says they have interest, I will do it. I would help in any way I could. I'm lacking most of the technical skills to contribute, so I'm trying to offer what I can. I have an VZW SG, idle servers with a lot of horespower if needed for brute force, some time, a personal interest in getting these rooted, and willing to try anything else someone asks for that would help.

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Yeah, I see that too. It was there this morning I think. I'm guessing they took their discussion somewhere else because their technical discussion was being interrupted by idiots.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
I know everyone is interested, but it's probably for the best anyway. I'm sure we'll get information when there's something worth knowing. Let the devs do their thing.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Maphack:
Better back camera > front camera

That sealed it for me.

And I wouldn't use the speakers

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Cleaned thread.

Please end the flaming, infractions and more for those that do not.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Aerocaptain:
Sorry, didn't realize people flaming is against site rules. My sincere apologize for debating merits with infracters.

previous device: Galaxy Nexus
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Sucks I wasn't causing any trouble was just following the thread quietly, like a good Lil boy
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Back on topic guys, I wasn't very well behaved either lol.

Thanks jcase for getting things cleaned up.

Hopefully good news will be upon us soon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sogseal:
There is one question bugs me out, hopefully someone can clear it up for me. Locked phone, what does exactly it means, the way i think is.... if i want to travel outside US, i call Verizon hey im going overseas and they give me instructions to unlock the phone. That got me thinking is this what everyone means or something completely different?

Thanks in advance, cheers
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Actually our phones are carrier unlocked so you can easily switch carriers. But the bootloader that allows us to install custom software on our phones is locked.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
The IRC has been very quiet. I know its a weekend/holiday weekend but not even a peep (Easter joke)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] sogseal:
Thanks bud! I figured as much that it cant be that easy, just to call verizon be like hey please unlock my phone, hahahahahaha
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mickrg123:
With The Verizon Galaxy S5, once its unlocked are you saying you can use with any GSM and CDMA carrier?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Its already unlocked. Its carrier unlocked. The bootloader is locked. There have been a couple people that have already used the Verizon GS5 on T-Mobile.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mickrg123:
Understand the bootloader is locked. When carrier unlocked you're saying you can use on any GSM and CDMA carrier?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Yes provided that the phone has the correct hardware to support the frequency bands that the new network uses. You can find all of that info on the internet pretty easily.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Question, I switched to ART yesterday not sure if I can tell a dif. But as someone else noted the "custom" software splash screen displays upon boot. Ya know? The unlocked padlock? So why is that? My understanding of Art is limited but I think its just how the system optimizes and caches applications. So why does it seem that Samsung thinks I have custom software?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] spuniun:
Yes this has been noted by many of us already. Seems to be a bug of sorts but it should have no affect on your warranty as the KNOX security has not been tripped.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] das7982:
Yes.... BUT. Tmobile coverage is complete... complete garbage. Sprint is complete garbage. And US cellular is even worse. SO...... sure they have root but their GS5's aren't even on the same level as our verizon GS5'S because we can use our phones anywhere!!!!!

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Juiced718:
Truth, not concerned about knox. Maybe I should be. Just didn't know what the deal with that was.

"What is ART? Are we art? Is art art?"

- Lisa Turtle
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Maphack:
Tmobile has horrible service in Seattle... I don't understand how that is possible...

Grandfathered unlimited on Verizon forever..

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] spuniun:
So I haven't been too bothered not having root. As the years have gone by and with each new phone I've relied on root less and less and haven't flashed a custom ROM on my phone since my Galaxy Nexus (4 phones ago). So while I've been keeping up with the [lack of] news on my new phone, it hasn't really hindered me much.

Then last night I had a very vivid dream that I was reading this thread and someone posted a simple apk that could be sideloaded to gain root and after waking this morning I rushed to check xda to see if was real or just a dream... guess it's on my mind more than I thought for my subconscious to weave it into my dreams.

Just thought I'd share.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
I been checking daily waiting for it... who knows maybe it might be a dream come true

Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I keep checking every day as well. My wife has the s4 I just came from the s3 with full acess. I've been rooting and flashing phones for years now. I want my 650 phone unlocked verizon!!!!