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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chumboy:
yes, but I couldn't move, say mp3, jpg files, from one folder on external to another folder on external.

I could go from internal to external and visa versa, but not external to external.

could you please check to see if that's possible?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Annnnnnnnnnnnnnnd we have root tomorrow at 1pm EST!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
+9001
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kilroy1stcav:
Unless things have changed again(and they may) from what I remember and have read, rooting is legal; Smartphones

The Librarian of Congress stated the following regarding rooting smartphones:

Computer programs that enable wireless telephone handsets to execute lawfully obtained software applications, where circumvention is accomplished for the sole purpose of enabling interoperability of such applications with computer programs on the telephone handset…

In common English, this means that you can use software that was not originally installed on your phone if you bought it fair and square and/or are not intending to be like the pirates that ruined it for everybody and do unspeakable illegal things.

Now, if you have already rooted your phone, please remain calm. You are not in trouble. This new regulation applies to all phone purchased after January 23rd of 2013
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kenkamm:
Works fine for me. I just moved some mp3s from one folder on my SD card to another folder on the SD card.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
I am literally bursting with excitement right now. I woke my girl up and she was like "cool" and went back to sleep.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
wake her up and tell her there is a new "naked pallet 4" make up released and she'll be jumping in the room. LOL

my wife is killing me with these things. I even know a lot of them because of how much she talks to me about it. LMAO

from my locked note 3!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
Ahahaa. You poor thing, you. I just can't wait. Going into work now so I'll be checking in at about 4 pm PST.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chumboy:
Hmmm. I thought I tried to move files with the pre-loaded file manager, and couldn't move files unless that specific app had created the folder and files. I think this is a new problem with all phones with kitkat.

"It’s simple, really. Prior to Android 4.4 KitKat, applications — provided they had permission to access the SD card — could read and write to any area on removable storage, including the system folders like DCIM, Alarms, etc. That has all changed, and now third-party applications — as in ones you download from Google Play or elsewhere — can only write to files and folders that they have created or have taken ownership of."

http://www.androidcentral.com/kitkat-sdcard-changes

here's a fix for it, but you need to be rooted:

http://gs4.wonderhowto.com/how-to/b...ns-android-4-4-kitkat-your-galaxy-s4-0152036/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
...edit
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Root check!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] moah9998:
Now that we have root can we push recovery through adb?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Rooted, and dding recovery might be possible but I believe the bootloader checks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] phobia09:
Not possible, bootloader locked, if you would have read, you would have discovered this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 0145ethan:
It may be possible with a recovery that bypasses the bootloader like safestrap we can also flash custom TW ROMS correct?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] phobia09:
That is correct. But, standard recovery won't be possible until the bootloader is somehow circumvented. SafeStrap will allow you to flash roms and mods compatible with the stock kernel.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PS4AndroidHacker:
I'm rooted and disabled knox but how in the wide world of android do we update the binaries with SuperSU?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tomsgt:
How To Root your Galaxy S5 Video

Add to OP if you Like :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
install latest from here in common folder

http://download.chainfire.eu/447/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.99r4.zip

then update binaries.. its been posted in other thread find him n thank him for it..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skydeaner:
I'mma sound super newb, but how do you install a zip without having a recovery
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] briantacker:
You don't have to install the zip. You just open the zip and install the apk in the common folder.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
so we're not getting root ever? :/
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skydeaner:
woops didn't even look if there was an apk in there, thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] briantacker:
you're kidding right?[emoji53]

Sent from my ROOTED Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
It was a question...or did you miss the question mark at the end...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skydeaner:
We just did robby
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] briantacker:
he released it yesterday

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2783157

Sent from my ROOTED Galaxy S5
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] skydeaner:
thanks worked great
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
thanks...missed it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PS4AndroidHacker:
LOL. ROFL. LMAO. check the other threads is what was running through my head. Hillarious. Got a good laugh out of this one.

---------- Post added at 12:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 12:42 PM ----------

Hey man...just to be nice, I know noobs need some help too. Check this link out: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2783157
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] s'pht:
I didn't pledge in the bounty thread but I still donated to Geohot. I'm running Titanium Backup right now!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jal3223:
Nice! We may have safestrap soon.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
Can anybody confirm whether the sqlite entitlement check data bit change on VZW works to disable carrier check for tether? or if there's another way (since I'm already rooted) to enable tethering on unlimited data for the VZW GS5.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
You can use foxfi which gets around this...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
I've used FoxFi going that route, but now that I have root, I wanted to see if there's a way to directly run the native tether app (since FoxFi uses a VPN certificate and forces pin unlock... it'd just be easier if I could disable the carrier check having root). I've heard people say the simple change for carrier entitlement check doesn't work, so I'm wondering if there's another step/app to get native tethering to work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
I don't know about others, but I did my homework ahead of time. I knew full well the chances of getting an unlocked bootloader, or even root. However I bought this phone willing to use it without an unlocked bootloader, and anything that develops will be a bonus.

As far as the M8 goes, I was not willing to sacrifice the superior screen, camera, and software of the S5 just so I can have an unlocked bootloader. I actually went to VZ intending to buy the M8, but after a lengthy comparison I just simply had to get the better phone (IMO). Development is secondary.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] detr0yt:
Oh I'm not taking anything away from the s5 it really is a beautiful phone.. I was torn between that and the M8.. I just didn't like the little bit of lag I was getting on the demo phone... At Verizon... Didn't know if it was the phone or just how. Big red had it set up.. I just didn't want to chance it.. I already took it from behind too the guy I sold my note 3 to for $400 standing next to me that I wanted to punch! Lol.. I do know this... If the s5 does end up getting unlocked I will be P.I.S.S.E.D. lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wonderrx:
Yep that's about where I am too, I gotta have root to use a phone for the way I use it. Fingers crossed!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
Well I think you are right about the bootloader, seems very unlikely. So if that is an important factor, the S5 might not be a good option. Personally I will be happy if we simply get root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] detr0yt:
Yeah I feel ya... Not to be a Debbie downer but even root is going to be a task... With the whole KNOX thing now being implemented.. I wish all you S5 guys the best of luck! I'll definitely be keeping my eye open in this thread :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chumboy:
After researching this until 3am this morning, I've decided to take the S5 back and go back to my Note 2.

Main reasons:

1. Unlikely to ever get root/recovery/roms

2. SDcard 3rd party writing lockdown

I know that if the S5 gets root, the SDcard write lockdown will probably be bypassed.

I could live with either, but not with both. Meaning, if we don't get root, the SDcard problem will remain.

I could live without root, but I can't live with the SDcard problem.

Absolutely love the phone after playing with it, but these 2 problems are a deal breaker.

I'll still be lurking here....hehe.

good luck guys!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] raziel36:
Titanium Backup and changing LCD Density are all I need. The main one being density.. I absolutely hate the clunky look of stock. Someone equated it to using a powerful, new PC at 800x600 resolution, and I completely agree. If they made that user changeable, without root, I'd likely not care about root on this phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Thanks for your input but we aren't interested in hearing phone reviews or opinions. This thread is specifically about the current statuses of the three listed areas. If you have possible insider information that a certain developer is working on something, that's awesome, but we don't to overly clutter a purely informational thread. Personally I like the GS5 in stock form but root will give the few necessary tweaks it needs for me.

Let's just keep the M8 vs GS5 stuff off this topic please. Both are great phones.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Elite49:
What?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] detr0yt:
Just responding to some of the people's thoughts and comments.. As far as getting a custom recovery... Unlocked boot loader...some said they were new to the scene...and don't know the chances of getting what there hoping for...they should have the right to know the realistic chances.. Its there money... And if anyone thinks any different... That's there opinion...but in the real world where the facts are facts... Don't count on a unlocked boot loader... Custom recovery... Or ant type of aosp ROM.... Look at the s4 and note 3 threads...ghost town ??:( trust me I miss my note 3 already... Hell I miss my s3...At most You will get root possibly from "bingo" a closed and highly skeptical chinese source like the note 3... And maybe if your lucky safestrap from Hashcode.

So with that said... There was no opinion in this reply... All straight facts here on XDA. So if anyone is hoping for a miracle... Your dreams are just a dream.. No need to flame either.. Samsung makes excellent products.. And with that unfortunately comes excellent security... Wish you guys the best of luck.... Like I said.. I will be keeping a close eye on this S5.. I wanted this phone...but for me paying $635 cash... I should be free to do as I please with it... And no one comes close to Verizon's coverage...so the next best thing to do is get the M8 in my opinion.. Same great coverage.. And ability to do as I please with MY PHONE...and phone specs are nearly identical...besides camera and fingerprint scanner.. But by no means is the m8's camera garbage... And chances are if the s5 gets root it may trip Knox then quite possibly the scanner will be useless... Just some thoughts for people on the fence specially the ones that paid cash... Like me...and especially to the peeps new to the scene.. Nothing but love... And I would love to see someone crack open this beast.... And donkey punch big red and Sammy with it.....
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
I understand your concerns and you're probably right. But here's to hoping we at least get root.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] turbosrrgood:
It's been all of 4 days since it's been released. I think it's a bit too early for the doom and gloom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chaplngrillsgt:
This is why I am waiting a month to upgrade. If we can't get root within a month it probably isn't going to happen and I may consider going to a different phone. But I have faith that it'll happen, even if it still trips Knox.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] spotmark:
I actually ordered the S5 a few hours ago, but after some careful thought, I reconsidered, and cancelled my order. As much as I would like to have this phone, I've got to have my unlocked bootloader. For now, I will sit tight with my MDK S4, and keep an eye on these boards. Good luck, to all our hard working devs.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Firemedic:
I have thought about the M8, The thing that stops me is the camera...From everything I have read , It really underperforms and with only a 4mp picture. You can barely edit it, let alone print it out. Disappointing and it's no wonder HTC is having huge issues.

I am going to wait for the S5 dev edition to get released, Watch what development happens and if there is no development for the S5 I will hold onto my S4 and wait for the next big thing. After all the S4 is the best phone I have ever had.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mike163:
The main reason I rooted my previous Android devices was to get wifi tether without paying an additional fee.

I'm now on the Verizon Share Everything plan which includes the wifi hotspot for free.

I've heard that Isis Wallet will not function on a rooted device. I'm not sure I even want to use it, but I may not root based on these things alone.

I'll miss some things like Titanium Backup, but life will go on.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Firemedic:
Isis and Google wallet work fine on my rooted S4, There is a fix for both for rooted devices. I want root in order to get rid of all the bloat that clogs up the device, Sends information I don't want sent and uses up the battery faster.

As well as tether for my unlimited plan.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SirWise23:
I can't imagine a ROOT not being found soon. Verizon is releasing the "developers" version of this phone soon that comes unlocked I believe. A dump of that ROM may have the answers needed as well.

Like people say, it's been less than a week. I'm not worried.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
Chainfire, I have an important question for you - will your root method work on a Verizon Developer Edition GS5?

I ask this because people on another forum are saying that your root method only works if the bootloader is unlocked; therefore, I'm assuming that if we had the developer S5 on verizon with an unlockable bootloader, your method would work.

I'm just contemplating whether at this point I jumped the gun on the official Verizon S5 and should return it (paying $35 restocking fee) and replace it with the developer S5 Verizon edition so that rooting will be less of a problem.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Guadalupeohara:
Straight out of Samsung's own device archives comes a listing for the Samsung Galaxy Verizon Developer Edition from Verizon Wireless here in the USA. This device will almost certainly be released with its bootloader unlocked and ready to roll for developers (and hackers) galore.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
They will see that you're using it and they will call you and tell you to stop or pay for it. They did it to me a few years back, like four years ago, god im getting old...

Plus it gives them more reason to lock us down, bad me four years ago lol.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
actually you're wrong about forcing pin unlock...I use pattern unlock and it still works just fine.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mwshows:
Wow is that a misleading statement. Hundreds, probably thousands of us on XDA and other forums have/had used the wireless tether provisioning hack.....

I for example.... Used it on my RAZR MAXX, when I had one......

I'm now on a share everything plan so I know longer need the hack. BUT I assure you. Many, many, many people still use a provisioning hack of some sort......

And they DON'T get called by Verizon.

To [MENTION=3818721]ravenofdoom[/MENTION] the old edit that used to work via sqlite no longer works AFAIK. But I'm pretty sure if you look around there are people working on this. You can also use Swype unlock with foxfi.... You just have to do a simple work around to get it working. That's also in the foxfi thread.

Sent From The Darkside of My N3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Droid_Evo_8:
I did this http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53431713&postcount=9 for tethering. :D

Remember, you have to have Xposed installed to make it work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Me too, works like a charm.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Droid_Evo_8:
Good to hear
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] airmaxx23:
I tether with my tablet quite often and have for a couple years, I've never received anything from Verizon regarding it. If I remember correctly they legally can't stop you from doing it now.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Skeetch79:
I have done this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2778819
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Thats the difference then see. If they cant legally stop you anymore that makes sense. Sorry. I was wrong.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] airmaxx23:
There's no need to apologize.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PS4AndroidHacker:
Why use an xposed module when clockworkmod tether works? Just wondering and asking. I use clockworkmod tether and it works great for me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
I use foxfi and works perfectly for me...now that we have root...we should be able to get around the carrier check
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Yea, if you try to enable it they can charge you under the old rules. They can't do anything if you bypass it. That's one of the main reasons they try to lock these down as much as possible.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] david1pro:
Tether legalities

In the US they cannot legally stop you from tethering if you have a capped data plan. You are paying for that data and you can do whatever you want with it. However, for those still grandfathered into an unlimited data plan, they do still have the legal right to say you are not permitted to tether without paying an additional fee. The unlimited plan contracts are only for unlimited data on the phone, not for data transferred via tether to other devices. I have known people to receive the call or letter from Verizon or AT&T regarding illegal data usage. I'm not sure if the phone companies were tipped off because of the method of usage or simply because of the amount of usage and assumed tethering must be taking place.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Shall I just rename this thread to, "Status on Tethering without a data plan"?

Can we get back to discussing Root or Bootloaders or Custom Recoveries please? Do we know of anyone trying to break the bootloader actively?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Shaffer678:
Was thinking the same thing!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Probably not publicly.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
Not sure if its useful for the S5, but none the less check this out

CVE-2014-0973

https://www.codeaurora.org/projects...arsing-during-boot-image-authentication-leads

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
It might. Not sure if we have the little kernel bootloader. The S4 had one that was nearly identical.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
It might help a lot if ours is an LK (I think it is).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
I'm trying to find out if it is or not.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] vacaloca:
It's not the same, but according to Dan Rosenberg, it's very similar:

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/05/exploiting-samsung-galaxy-s4-secure-boot.html

The more interesting detail is that the code patch happened on April 22 for the LK implementation, but that release LiLPurP posted is dated from today, ha: https://www.codeaurora.org/cgit/qui...r&id=f39085971c8c4e36cadbf8a72aabe6c7ff538ffa

Would be interesting to see if that issue is present in Samsung's Galaxy S5's aboot.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
I have the aboot.img if someone needs it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Yeah the one we're on that George exploited was 3153. Bummer
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
So it won't work?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] vacaloca:
I think you're confusing two different things here. 2014-3153 was indeed the one that geohot exploited with towelroot. The volnerability posted earlier (2014-0973) is a different one entirely, and it's possible that it's present on the S5's aboot code.

At the very least, the old text string of "ERROR: Image Invalid! Decryption failed!" is present in the S5's aboot code... and not the corrected text linked here... ;) So far so good... but I'm not much for disassembling, I'll leave that to someone else. It's quite possible Samsung could have patched it if they noticed, but the only way to know is disassembling that binary.

I'll leave this here for someone else who has the time to deep dive into this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2641245
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Oh no, I wasn't confusing them I was saying the one posted was a different one than George has exploited. Whether or not it affects us I'm not sure.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
I wonder if that's the exploit that guy is going to expose at the blackhat convention, maybe??
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] vacaloca:
It could be, by the sound of the (vague) abstract it would certainly seem to fit. Then again, unless I'm mistaken, if this vuln does work, it would be unable to 'unlock the bootloader'... From what I understand you'd just be able to flash images at your will once you figure out how to craft the correct signature... whether you can indirectly unlock the bootloader doing by this, I do not know.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Even if not for our phone, it might help towards our phone
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Which is exactly what Dan Rosenberg did on the S4 from what I read about the exploit that he did on it to get their boot-loader unlocked. I think this is it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
From what i read, and i may be wrong, but if this works as described, couldnt we just flash a new aboot image, one that allows us to unlock the bootloader?

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Just like the one that Dan used for the s4 bootloader unlock yes. From what I read about the exploit posted by you and how I interpreted it and based on reading about how Dan Rosenberg exploited the s4s boot-loader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Except that his method exploited the TrustZone secureboot. CVE-2014-0973 doesn't mention anything about TrustZone.

EDIT: http://threatpost.com/researcher-unlocks-samsung-galaxy-s4-bootloader-for-att-verizon-android-phones

Sorry if I sound rude. Not trying to be. Just the way it came out.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Read his blog post from that exploit though and then tell me it doesnt sound like this exploit description.

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/05/exploiting-samsung-galaxy-s4-secure-boot.html?m=1
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
It does. Sorry.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
It does sound almost exactly the same, however, isnt it possible for this to be a different exploit for TrustZones? Or not for TrustZones? And is this the very same exploit Dan planned on releasing?

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol