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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
You really are jesus, yes. Thank you.

So it's a TrustZone exploit and it will be exposed at the Black hat 2014 conference in two months but, it might not be our phone you never know... Thank you [MENTION=5575828]Walter.White[/MENTION] as well for the OP.

Thank you as well JCase.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
LOL, well I am supposed to be a imitator of Christ and your welcome.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Even if it is for this phone, without root it is probably useless.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
That's what I was thinking as I read your post after posting... I read into the root part that is...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
For those of you that haven't seen or heard yet, [MENTION=3280118]geohot[/MENTION] has found a root method, but hasn't made it public. He used CVE-2014-3153. I'm posting this in case he doesn't make it public.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tutorialbs:
is this for real? oh man i don't care i <3 you guys so god damn much for restoring my hope
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
It is. There is a new thread about it. He has proof on AT&T but not sure about VZW yet. And unsure if it will be made public
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
I'm trying so hard NOT to get my hopes up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
He released a photo with root checker basic on it saying the device was rooted, so root is indeed possible, he also commented on how long it took him and said it was fun to exploit, so root should be comming to s5 users, now for the biggest problem the bootloader

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Don't care so much about bootloader. Root is essential.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kingsley404:
Yeah I really hope he releases it. Root would be great this phone that's already amazing.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Do any devs have an idea of how to use the uaddr ==uaddr2 to exploit the dangling pointers of the futex?

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
lol i can tell you read links posted in other room. it clearly is something that has been proven to work to gain privesc so we will find out soon if it works with our device im sure!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Wrong CVE.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
That's a no.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raillery:
So even if we do get root, it sounds like it's pretty unlikely that we'd get unlocked bootloader yeah? Most likely have to use safestrap and still only run TW roms?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dlscott1111:
So, Can someone explain the value of what Geohot has done. Did he point the devs in the right direction? How will they get root without his exploit? Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Believe he announced where exactly to look to make it happen, and left the bounty/collection and all the other hard work, plus the potential for VZW/SMSNG to be angry at someone else...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tutorialbs:
see http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53343231

edit: also Geohot thanked Chainfire and ricky so perhaps some part of [SM-G900*] CF-Auto-Root and [STABLE][UNIVERSAL] Rickys Rom Kitchen/APK&JAR Tools [V 4.0.1][WIN] was utilized
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Wrong Ricky, and Chainfire fire assisted him in getting su installed with newer SELinux restrictions.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
I know you don't have a crystal ball, but in your educated opinion do you think this will lead to root for the community?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
Eventually yes, now that the community has been lead into the right direction, its only a matter of time, he was able to do it in i think 4 hours so its a matter of time now

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
4 days**
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] David111jr:
I don't think many people care for bootloader as long as they can root and put custom Roms on there s5. I think most people just want to run cyanogenmod, aosp, or a de-bloated rom.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
You need unlocked BL for cyanogenmod and AOSP ROM...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] David111jr:
Didn't know that. I just started using Samsung when I bought the s5 last 2 phones were htc which I would unlock and root right out of the box. My last Samsung was the original Galaxy and I don't remember messing with bootloader back then
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raillery:
I just got the s5 yesterday without doing my research as the guy at the kiosk told me that vzw was rooted with unlocked bootloader, but he probably just had t-mobile or something. Anyway, I'm thinking I'll return it for the HTC m8, cause I really need miui. Is it likely at all that the bootloader will ever be unlocked, or do we pretty much know that it won't?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cyberace1985:
he could have had the dev edition of the s5 which allowed for easy rooting and unlocking
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Raillery:
Yeah, but he was selling a regular one and was telling me about some roms he liked. Either way, it's pretty unlikely that bl will get unlocked yeah?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kingsley404:
What are the benefits of these roms compared to other roms? I had cyanogenmod on my galaxy nexus but removed it because I got extreme battery drain. Just wondering
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
It's all personal preference. AOSP ROMs usually are more customizing than TW with different things you can do that you can't with TW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
This isnt necessarily true.. you would just need root with custom recovery or another method.. some phones use safe strap for example.. like the vzw s4.. ppl who updated their phones had to flash roms via safestrap

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ill take hyperdrive any day but agreed its all preference.. i personally have better batt life on tw based roms but aosp/cm based roms are oh so smooth
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kingsley404:
I see, thanks for the information!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] posersk8r:
can't have true aosp as it runs on a different kernel. our locked bl's can only run a kernel it approves of which is tw. can happen if it's unlocked. at&t note 3 user here.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Is it possible for this exploit to run code that copies the developer aboot to the boot partition?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kidruk:
Aosp is highly customizable and very very minimal os... Even without bloatware.... TW roms are significantly larger than aosp and aokp roms. At the end of the day it's personal preference though... This time around I think I will stick with touchwiz as aosp usually is buggy regardless of how buttery it is...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
Just wanted to throw this out there. Hopefully it'd be of help in some sort. Greenify app is now able to hibernate system apps including knox (and AT&T updater) and other security system apps. How could it do that? It messed with some very sensitive system apps and put them to sleep!!! Could that be of any help for those of you who are working on root? How did the developer of greenify bypass those restrictions to mess with the system apps and "turn them off".

It is the donation app btw.

Sorry if this is not helpful at all. I'm no developer nor do I know ANYTHING about coding. Just trying so hard to help.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cr4ck3r4lif3:
That only works on rooted phones. You need xposed installed for this function to work.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
No, the new update that I just took. it's working on my un rooted phone currently. I don't have xposed. the new features enable you to hibernate system apps. go check it out yourself. Buy the donation package and you'll be surprised.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] motumbo:
You made me buy the donation package and it didn't work for the system apps. It says the application is "ungreenifiable".
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
there ya go

I'm not rooted and it's working for me.

You have to enable it from the "experimental features" in the menu.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jackdubl:
This thread would be empty if people didn't talk about randomness.

Free storage from Copy:

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You did find it.

Free storage from Copy:

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
As of now Geohot has an AT&T phone rooted, and possibly a Verizon. This shouldn't be news for a lot of you as you follow this very closely day by day. The problem is that he and others who also have exploited root are not sharing any methods to obtain it. Which they are entitled to do so. Please don't send him or others hate messages or bombard their social networking accounts.

If they decide to share with us, please be grateful, and if you pledged a donation please think about finding a way to get it to them. It is the right thing to do, but also not mandatory.

Let's hope for a public exploit soon!

OP updated.

Also PLEASE send me a PM if I am behind on updates. I am not on this forum every day. Usually every other day.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zigqllama:
I too can verify that this is complete hogwash. You cannot greenify system apps without xposed. You cannot load xposed without root.

Either there is something you're not telling us, or perhaps you stand to profit from app sales? Seriously though, it's just not happening, at least not with the version of Greenify currently available.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
LOL. I'd swear to whatever you want me to swear to that I'm not lying neither am I doing any of what you mentioned. I have an AT&T galaxy note 3 with the official KK that I have taken purposely. locked down. not rooted. you can go and ask about me in the AT&T note 3 threads. I have no reason to lie. I don't have anything to do with the app "benefits". it's just working here. the latest update was today. you have to enable it from the "experimental features" in the menu in order for it to work. unless it acts different on the note 3. :)

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also there ya go

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] zigqllama:
Okay I think we have this cleared up then. You're using a beta, 2.4 b1. The latest version in the google store is 2.3.1.

I found the beta build, downloaded and installed it, and yes, I can confirm it is working just like your screenshot demonstrates. All you had to do was post a version or mention you tracked down a newer version than what was in the store. Well done then mate :good:

Edit: I noticed your version on your last post #895, which is how I knew you had something other than what google store offered. If you did mentioned your beta build prior to that post, I apologize for missing it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
well, I didn't know. I thought once you get the donate package, you'd get the latest beta updates like i do. LOL

op is going to kill me for the clutter. so sorry.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
if you pledged a donation youre saying to give to someone who wont share a way to root with the community? i guess this is why bountys tend to be not recommended.. i for one give geo n the person who found the exploit kudos but would not give $ to someone who teases the community with his root knowing we watch these threads religously waiting for someone with more brains than us to help out the little guy... just my rant.. im done now
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
I'm sorry you are mistaken. I meant consider donations if they provide root publicly for us.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
*delete*
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
I already emailed him and let him know I would donate if he released.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mcornish86:
How can I donate if he releases his root exploit for AT&T / verizon?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Likely PayPal. Preferred method/instructions will be posted on the bounty thread upon release and confirm.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DubleJayJ:
I doubt he's going to release. He said he won't. He gave us the way to do it but not step by step. And I believe someone is already working on it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mcornish86:
Who is working on it? Why won't he release it? So are we just going to be teased with root? trying to give my $ pledge for it..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] putney1477:
I'm sure, in time, it will be released. :) we just need to be patient. I think the more it's demanded that it be released, the more likely the devs will wait.

I know it seems hard for many of us because phones used to be easily rooted.

Just my 2 cents. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mcornish86:
Still if there is bragged about root available and it's not being released due to w/e personal issue feels like being trolled with. Like being at someone's mercy :(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kenkamm:
It takes time for the devs to come up with the method that people like us (not devs) can understand and follow to root our phones. It's one thing for a dev to prove that an exploit works, and another thing to package it up so that anyone can do it. You don't know the list of steps that the devs use to root a single phone - it could be tedious and risky if not performed by someone who knows these systems well.

I'm sure they're working on all this. We need to be patient and wait for the process to be developed. So relax! This is a very exciting time, and it will be worth the wait!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] moejoe88:
I hope one of these super smart devs can pull this off soon. The only thing stopping me from pulling the trigger on getting an S5 is not having root. It's a must have for me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] GoBears:
Traded my unlocked/rooted M8 for an S5. I have zero regrets so far. This phone is awesome even without root. It's going to be even better when a working root procedure is released. I'm stoked and super grateful for all the Devs who are working on it. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kenkamm:
We've seen quite a bit of evidence that this is going to happen. Might as well get your S5 now and get it all set up. :laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PS4AndroidHacker:
We are just waiting for it to be packaged like the other guy said. It's coming. Just give them time. We can't be greedy. Patience is a virtue.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] renaldok:
The talent level of these developers is just simply amazing.. I am super excited to read about the progress.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] heffe2001:
I think the problem is most people on here have no idea what it takes to go from a working exploit, to something that they can use to root their phone without much chance of bricking, or easily. If they had to root and unlock their phones the way you did it before the 'one click' solutions, I bet there'd be a fair few bricked S5 posts on here...

Be patient and give the devs time to put something together that's somewhat easy to use.. Or you may be holding a very expensive and shiny brick..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
The way I see it: if we've waited this long, we can wait a little bit longer with some new hope on our minds. Its hard, I am not a patient person. But we all need to be patient.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DubleJayJ:
Can't find the post where someone said they are working on it. And I don't know why he won't release it? Just look at his past with Sony. And yes we'll just be teased. It just gives us hope that it can be done. We know the vulnerability and he proved that it works for our GS5. Now we just wait for one of our smart devs to figure it out, which is already in progress.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Demiurge7:
Yes, I know. I am following very closely. I was just answering the question, as it would apply no matter who releases a method.

I believe it is important... as to keep our words in terms of donating, and to remain patient and respectful in the meantime. I immediately forwarded info to interested devs, and have it on good authority its being worked on.

Sent from a device

Edit: Sorry, woke up and replied... Just noticed these points were covered several times over. Thanks guys
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kilroy1stcav:
I just hope everyone is confident enough there is root on the horizon that they DO NOT accept the OTA expected later this month as has been rumored from many sources including Samsung themselves! Just my 2¢

And I do believe we will have root very, very soon!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] starfall42:
This bug allows modifying the stack of a root process, which can be used to get it to execute arbitrary code. However, it's not simple to construct an exploit that does something besides crashing. As others have said, be patient. A one-click exploit needs to be reliable, which will take some development and testing. (No, I'm not working on one myself, but I'm familiar with the process.)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 32BitWhore:
I've gotten used to the way the phone operates without root, so I'm in no rush. The only immediate benefit for me is ad-blocking. If we find an exploit for the bootloader, however, now that's something I can get excited about.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chumboy:
For all of you happy with the S5 without root, how are you dealing with not being able to independently write files to the SDcard?

IE....KitKat does not allow you to use a file manager to move files around on the SDcard. I'm constantly doing that on my Note2 and couldn't live without it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] johnnytraveler:
One of several problems with being locked. + no ad blocker, stuck with bloat, no simple and clean way to tether ?.

So we patiently wait for root! Otherwise a great phone, hehe
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
Foxfi is a simple and clean way to tether. You can disable the bloat.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kenkamm:
The provided file manager can move files around.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
I have to admit I'm surprised by how nice the phone is without root. However, that said, no ad blocker is killing me, disabling bloat is nice but deleting it is infinitely better, no long press volume rocker to skip track is awful and the fact that I can't control the lock screen timeout is downright bizarre.

I also miss small tweaks like roundr, cpu control, and other little things that add up to a better, more personal device.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Shaffer678:
I'm pleased with this phone so far I can wait for root . the only thing I've needed for root so far is the g3 keyboard which I installed on my g2 just before selling it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
True. This is what I do, but it's an extra step and can be a pain in the ass... specifically because I often transfer large files/videos/movies to my phone via wifi (which can ONLY be transferred to the onboard storage) and then have to take the additional step of moving it over to the SDcard with the samsung provided file manager. This is particularly a pain in the ass because after all my installed apps, I pretty much only have 6 Gb of free space left on onbaord storage, which isn't even enough space for some of the 720p movies to be moved over wifi... whereas as I have about 60Gb free on my SDcard. It's like having a 600Gb harddrive on a PC, but windows will only let you write to it passing through a 60Gb secondary harddrive, creating two sets of copy/paste functions. All this crap and the fact that neither ESfile explorer nor any other app can directly wifi-file transfer or otherwise write to the SDcard.

Stupid Google... stupid, stupid, stupid. I wish the project manager spearheading this change / standard for locking down the external SD card storage permission gets fired. More and more we're seeing functionality and user flexibility being locked down with every attempt to make Android more "business-friendly," hobbling the experience for the users who wants a non-iOS experience. The lines are becoming more and more blurred with every update - android attempts to dumb-down functionality to appeal to the masses, and apple moves towards androidifying iOS
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
Granted we can't remove the bloat but with the app manager and the paid version of Greenify 2.4 beta we can freeze quite a bit. Still nothing beats having root access but I'm happy for now.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
adblock plus is your friend. you have to entry a proxy host name and port for all your WiFi connections, and add a new APN to add the proxy and port for your cellular data.

it blocks most internet ads and some app ads.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
The 70% of our 2GB being used up by crap is why I want root.

I want optimization and control (especially want xposed).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xcezzz:
Having seen that root is not far away I had went out and got my S5 yesterday.

So I am curious as to what the software update version that everyone is on?

I want to verify I haven't gotten any new updates or received a phone with a different version than what everyone is looking to be able to root. The 'software update' section of the phone doesn't show any update history and I am scared of clicking 'check for updates' to see if any more information would be displayed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
See my version info.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] PS4AndroidHacker:
SM-G900A from AT&T
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xcezzz:
thanks guys... i feel much better now

so if and when an update does come out is it forced? like will i wake up and it be updated or do i still have a choice in the matter? or is it like garbage windows and will it just go and do it if i don't respond within a certain timeframe?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] davidstre:
I had it installed but it simply wasn't up to snuff as far as in app ads are concerned. It actually does next to nothing for in app ads.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] chumboy:
I had the S5 for 2 nights. returned it and went back to my note2.

found out that with, kitkat only programs that create the file to move it. es explorer, etc. won't work either.

unless the latest update changed this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Kinanizer:
What if we started a Kickstarter to raise a bounty for geohot or someone else? I feel like people would be more willing to pay then, and geohot (or someone else) could see the rewards waiting for them.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Russ77:
my files, the built in app, will move from internal to external, and the opposite.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DubleJayJ:
He's not going to release it and no amount of money will change it. He's learned his lesson with this sort of stuff. Stop bothering with it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
yes, he is. come over here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2783157 tomorrow. ;)

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DubleJayJ:
Well I'll be damned.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
Hahahha. I told them to give him a couple of days and he'd give in ;)

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] DubleJayJ:
Thought he learned his lesson from Sony. Then again, this is something a little different. Didn't take that into consideration. That bounty is probably gonna pay for another term or two for CMU
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
I never thought he was afraid of being sued or anything. First chainfire and other root monsters would've been in jail a long time ago if samsung and carriers wanted to sue people for achieving root. second, I don't think he's afraid at all. he beat Sony by himself. LOL

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