yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
The CVE you put didn't say anything about TrustZone. So I don't think it is the one being released. However, this could be another one similar to Dan's first one that unlocked the S4. We won't know until someone figures out how to use it and tries it. Or until someone sees if our aboot.mbn is patched already.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bruderhood15:
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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
Correct if wrong someone but I believe trustzone is what this is referring too because trustzone verifies all the sigs etc at boot... I believe it is another trustzone exploit.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
The exploit has been said to not work on samsung devices, but i hear progress is being made over in the S4 verizon thread

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Can you share the link for the thread you are talking about?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
Here guys, a pic of the post that had the info, not sure about posting links lol

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Tomsgt:
Verizon Galaxy S5 safe strap 3.75 recovery is here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2793891
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] disco1224:
I realize it still is on the S5 but is the bootloader still locked on the S4??

I came from the S3, totally skipped over the S4.... just was wondering....thx
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
All three still locked. I believe the bootloader lock is the same for all three. So theoretically once one gets cracked, they should all be unlockable

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] disco1224:
Wow, I didn't know that, could of sworn the s3 was unlocked, I guess ive been out of it awhile.... Thanks again
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
S3 bootloader was cracked and unlocked prior to the 4.3 OTA. Anyone who has taken an OTA since the first 4.3 OTA has the same locked bootloader as the S4 and the S5 and none has been cracked yet.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ktracho13:
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why make a status update if you're not going to update it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
It's a point of information
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] biTToe:
forgive my n00bish query

Is it possible to back-flash an official Verizon 4.2 kernel (perhaps modifying some key ID files to spoof the version/build) then use the appropriate exploit to unlock the bootloader, THEN.... well, there you go.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
No. Once you are on stock 4.3 or 4.4.2 on a Verizon Samsung phone you cannot revert your phone or any part of it to an earlier version.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
You mean once you are on the 4.3 bootloader. My wife's phone is unlocked on vzw stock 4.3 with 4.4.2 radios.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] 32BitWhore:
The S4 bootloader was exploited on MDK firmware. I used an MDK S4 for months with TWRP, now the girlfriend has it.

Just so you're not spreading misinformation, it is possible that we get an exploit that does not apply to the S3 or S4 at all.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Thanks for clarifying that. So basically I guess the S3, S4, and S5 have all been locked down since 4.3 came out then.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
A little late but OP is updated with Safestrap recovery.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
better late than never ha
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] TaintedSpuds:
Perhaps we should make a new thread for bootloader status and lock that thread? I'm wasting a lot of time at work playing catch up on here and reading tons of old posts containing random chit chat and the occasional argument haha.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xazilizax:
Good point! :D
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] WhosToBlame:
Sorry if this isn't where to ask but didn't want to start a new thread.

I am taking the plunge and getting the S5 this week and was wondering if the root exploit hasn't been patched on out of the box S5's yet. Thank in advance.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
I just checked for an update on a stock unrooted Verizon S5, no new update, and still on ANCG, which is vulnerable. So you should be fine.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] junjlo:
I wonder what Verizon's excuses is no before they locked boot loaders to help secure their "network" but now they offer the developer GS5 there should be no excuse for them to keep our boot loaders locked.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] *Madmoose*:
Verizon doesn't offer the Dev Edition, Samsung does.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] junjlo:
Going to say that due to technical circumstances that yes it is a Verizon offering though you have to go to Samsung website to purchase the phone. The dev edition is built specificly for vzw ET-G900VMKAVZW. Verizon has agreed to allow these phones on their network as well as the bow branded ones. It is important to remember that all phones are bought from their manufactures as well vzw does not own any phone they sell to you. So in all techincality yes Verizon is offering these phones access to the same network they so fondly protect.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LiLPurP:
Didnt verizon get away with locking the bootloader because unlocked devices have a "negative impact" on thier network, and here i see verizons allows the dev unlocked edition, and has the network band verizon uses, how is this not an issue?? What is so wrong with me changing my device? Or is it that the carriers want their OS, so that we can complain about it and they can make it better? If so im paying full price for beta software, this is robbery and should be illegal, oh well, props for the devs for taking us this far, and just wondering, legaly there is no action that can be taken from a legal standpoint correct?

AT&T Galaxy S4 4.3 MK2 rooted with saferoot, safestrap recovery installed, Running Hyperdrive ROM, Praying for unlocked bootloader lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
People are really asking that?

They do it for money. They know a limited market will pay more for a device like that and they must come up with a reasonable (stupid) explanation for it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rjayflo:
Kinda off topic, S3 BL unlocked after KK update.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
Hm, weird. On vzw? Must just be because the phone is so old or something. Although would be amazing if they just decided to unlock bootloaders after 4.4.4. Lol. Not likely.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Can you provide a link?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Definitely not the Verizon version. No mention of it at all in the Verizon GS3 forum.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Still waiting on a link or some type of proof of this statement.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] richardbibbsr:
Kinda off but on topic.. If u use twrp manager to flash twrp u get unauthorized software take to verizon.. Anyway to fix?

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
No. If you had read a little around the GS5 forum, you would have found out if you have the GS5 retail version you have a locked bootloader and cannot flash any custom recovery like TWRP. You will need to look around these forums and find the 4.4.2 full stock tar file to flash through ODIN to get rid of the unauthorized message. Or you can find it at sammobile.com.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] VECTUS:
You 2 knock it off. Take it to the ring or Samsung. NOT here at XDA. For those not involved, carry on...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] djf8:
Does anyone know if there is any development taking place to crack the bootloader? I was just curious to see if there was something we could watch to see if anyone is making any progress.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
[MENTION=4229979]djrbliss[/MENTION] could enlighten us all on this, as some of us may be eligible.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
I seem to remember reading either in the S4 thread or one of the links in that thread where he has already said what he found will not work on the S5 or the HTC M8. I'll see if I can find the info.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Believe it was for phones that have taken the patch's since release.. Some people may not have..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
I haven't taken updates since I got my S5. Is it worth trying?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jal3223:
Yeah, I never take public updates. So unless it was patched on launch day, a few of us have a chance of unlocking hopefully.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
I haven't taken any updates either and I was hoping we had a chance based on your comment [MENTION=5833173]kprice8[/MENTION], but then I read this post in the S4 thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54685420&postcount=1322

Not sure if he means all Samsung and LG devices period, or just those with updates since June 3. But it doesn't sound real good. Here is the tweet:

https://twitter.com/djrbliss/status/497552086171533312

Bummer
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jal3223:
I honestly think he said that to get everyone to stop bombarding him while he was traveling. He specifically said in his article that the Note 3 and LG G2 are vulnerable. A samsung device and an Lg device right there. Also an update has recently come out for the S5 keeping things in line with it now being patched. I may be wrong but I'm hoping not.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Good point
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
The updates for the s5 started rolling out before blackhat maybe that's why it was said they were patched not really sure on this ?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Hopefully, ANCG is vulnerable to a lot more stuff. I refuse to update unless it's major for that reason.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
I refuse any unless something I want is in that update if not won't take it
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] K-alz:
He only mentioned that s5 and HTC one M8 can't be cracked because they've been "patched". And the "stop asking me about it" post is just to push people away. Imagine having 20,000+ followers all asking you about unlocking the bootloader news. There ya go. Read this http://www.droid-life.com/2014/08/07/moto-x-bootloader-unlock-qualcomm/ it says otherwise and proves what I said.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
He's only talking about it not being vulnerable to the trust zone exploits. It's very specific and doesn't apply to any other possible vulnerability that may exist.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LegoFarmer:
Is there hope for a bootloader exploit? :/ safestrap support is about to end, meaning android L custom roms won't be thing on here when it releases if the bootloader can't be unlocked. I'd imagine with a phone of these specs, the devs will get it eventually and I understand that it is very hard and costly.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dlscott1111:
I used to be the most positive guy around about the prospect, but it is looking less and less likely. No one seems to be working on a bootloader exploit. Either that or they aren't posting their progress. Sad cause the s5 is a great phone. It seems the only Verizon phones getting major development these days are LG and HTC.

Seems like since we got root and safestrap there has been no serious buzz about an unlock. Maybe I'm just being negative, I don't know.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rjskalet:
https://twitter.com/TeamAndIRC/status/513022949930962945

just saw that this happened for motorola phones im assuming, i would like to know how much different the s5 bootloader is in comparison. is it possible we could use a similar method to unlock our phones, it appears to be for phones with 4.4.3.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] helliciousryan:
I'm still on stock NCG. I'm willing to do testing for anyone... I want this to happen just as much if not more than the next guy. (bootloader exploit) as for a new guy question. I'm learning as I go. Few years experience. Whilst reading around I've noticed that we can't set our SELinux to permissive or disabled. I've tried myself through multiple methods. Using sprints. Edits. And what have you. We also can't create an insecure boot.img. Are all of these needed in order to obtain another? As in can't have one without the other? Have we tried an exploit that modifies all at the same time to see if that may work? Also does the exploit for to obtain root in towelroot work in other areas? I'm sure this has all been thought of. But being inpatient with something that requires patience... I must ask. Thanks in advance for any response!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mutami:
Super late to the towel root method. Now I am on 4.4.4. Wondering if there is a way I can roll back to a previous version with unrooted phone so that I can use towelroot? Anyone got suggestions?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] warpedmind0u812:
Follow the instructions in thos guide.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55495211
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mutami:
Will give it a shot! Greatly appreciate it!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Anything new on the bootloader or kexec?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Just stop. No one posted anything new, leave it alone. If there's a breakthrough, you'll hear of it.[emoji36]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
Okay. Was just curious after watching the S4 forums. Wasn't trying to stir things up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ryanbg:
I just got an S5. My Note 3 is temporarily hard-bricked. I will begin work on kexec for the S5 once I'm able to get SELinux permissive. Shouldn't be too difficult. Haven't checked if kernel modules have a whitelist yet either. Bootloader unlock (at least the official way) isn't so realisitic at this point, unless I can consult with a cryptographic expert and they think it's feasible to forge a signature or find a vulnerability in the verification of the developer signature.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
Yep I've given up on this phone. Going to sell it soon and buy the Note 4 Google Play Edition whenever that's available.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
im pretty sure no one has got selinux permissive yet.. hsbadr was working on it but i think he gave up lol the same method that works on vzw note 3 does not work on the s5..

with that being said, i believe they were able to set permissive for supersu or a specific apk but it would reset on a reboot.. theres an old thread in the development section if u want to give it a quick read to see where he ended up
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radpp16:
No unlocked bootloader yet?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
No. And I don't think this device will ever be truly unlocked.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RyanThaDude:
I really wish people will understand that we'll never see it unlocked. And if someone would somehow, by some miracle, decrypt it or it's somehow unlocked I'm sure something that significant would be widely discussed.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
People like to hope.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] elliwigy:
nything is possible.. nothing is full proof.. of course its obviously too difficult and ppl have moved on lol. food for thought though, if ghe note 4 or a similar device gets unlocked exploit might work on our device.. i wouldnt count on it though lolto my knowledge the note 4 hasnt even been rooted yet lol. even if u get a dev ed since not many buy em there might not be a huge community for it.. ppl on xda are moving to unlocked phones or nexus devices
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] crevis24:
Sorry to sound like a noob, but I just came over from sprint. The only real issues with not having an unlocked bootloader are not being able to flash aosp type roms, custom kernels, and custom recovery (other than safestrap), correct?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] xuhdev:
Correct. We are stuck with TW ROMs.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wanab3:
This is what you get when you ask (Skip to end) not a lot.

I have been looking for the right place to post this, hope this is it.

Chat InformationPlease wait for a Samsung Agent to respond.

Chat InformationYou are now chatting with 'Alaister'. There will be a brief survey at the end of our chat to share feedback on my performance today.

Chat InformationYour Issue ID for this chat is LTK1125602557038X

Alaister: Hi, thank you for contacting Samsung Technical Support. How may I help you today?

Visitor: unlock your boot loader so i can do what i want with the phone i paid for

Alaister: I will be glad to assist you regarding this information.

Visitor: ok tell me how

Alaister: May I know the model number of the device? You can find it from Home screen,Apps >> Settings >> About Device >> Model number.

Visitor: sure sm-g900v

Alaister: Thank you for providing device model number.

Alaister: Let me inform you that unlocking boot means rooting the device it would void the warranty.

Visitor: ok

Alaister: Thank you for understanding.

Alaister: I appreciate it.

Alaister: Is there anything else that I can assist you with?

Visitor: tell me how to unlock the bootloader

Alaister: I am very sorry to inform you that we do not provide information regarding that.

Visitor: why

Alaister: Let me inform you that we are not the authorized people to provide the information regarding boot loader unlocking.

Visitor: who is?

Visitor: you also didnt answer my question

Alaister: Sorry we do not have information in this regard.

Visitor: why? what can you help me with?

Alaister: We can not provide you because it may lead to brick the device and voids the warranty.

Visitor: im fine with those risks. will you tell me now? i did pay for the device. i should be able to do what i want with it right?

Alaister: Sorry we are not the authorized people top provide you information in this regard.

Alaister: Please do understand.

Visitor: who is?

Alaister: I am absolutely sorry for the inconvenience but we do not any information in this regard.

Visitor: you are a human right?

Visitor: serious question

Alaister: Yes, I am human.

Visitor: can you plesae tell me how to contact someone who would know?

Visitor: about unlocking the bootlaoder

Alaister: Please contact our voice support team they will provide you with the information.

Alaister: You can contact our voice support at 1-888-987-4357, Mon-Fri: 7 AM - 9 PM (CST), Sat: 9 AM - 6 PM (CST).

There was pillow talk after but nothing useful.

I think we should ask more often, make a scene.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
I appreciate you doing it, but to what end? I could call/chat all day and get the same result you did; the inevitable run-around. Verizon passes the buck to Samsung, then they pass it right back. It's a joke, but that's politics. Again, I'm all for others harassing them ad nauseum, I just don't have the time! :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
Samsung will never give you that information no matter what.

Before I had called them to ask and they told me to call that number because copyright laws were keeping them from telling me. I asked them to cite the specific law and they said they weren't permitted to.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RandomGuy982:
Another outlet to try would be to contact the correspondence teams in your area, or the boss himself. I would recommend being very polite, but demanding of them to allow us to use our devices the way that we want. They say that they are locked to ensure a positive customer experience on their network, but let's call a spade a spade. They are locked for corporate greed. Their whole philosophy is to make as much money as possible, no matter what. That is a good model for making money, but it comes at the expense of giving all of their customers a positive experience, not just those who could care less about the software on their device. Below you will find the mailing addresses for the teams in your area and their CEO. Let your voices be heard.

West Area:

Verizon Wireless

West Area Correspondence Team

PO Box 96082

Bellevue WA 98009

Midwest Area:

Verizon Wireless

Customer Service Dept

777 Big Timber Rd

Elgin, IL 60123

South Area:

Verizon Wireless

PO Box 105378

Alpharetta GA 30348

Northeast Area:

Verizon Wireless

Attn: Correspondence Team

20 Alexander Drive

Wallingford, CT 06492

Also, Mr. Boss Man himself:

President & CEO

Lowell McAdam

One Verizon Way

Basking Ridge, NJ 07920

And:

Executive Vice President & COO

Jack Plating

One Verizon Way

Basking Ridge, NJ 07920

---------- Post added at 03:26 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:00 PM ----------

I've been through the Samsung and Verizon seesaw. It is most definitely the carrier locking down the device. The manufacturer cannot unlock the bootloader because of their agreement with the carrier. Our only hope of getting this unlocked lies in Verizon hands, unfortunately (or an anonymous Samsung employee willing to help!).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wanab3:
^

ldeveraux,

Oh come now! What? Do you work for Samsung? If you have the time to reply to this post you have the time do do what I did.

This is about calling attention to an issue. If enough people do something really simple like this, tech-news gets wind of it and it builds momentum. Change happens.

To all,

Samsung makes the KNOX they make the hardware, we should focus on them. If nothing else we ruin their sales. Besides Verizon has a million other services. They're a bigger giant to tackle. Solve the easier problem first.

I certainly won't buy Samsung after this.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
It isn't Samsung locking the phones. Only Verizon and AT&T phones from them are locked (I think). So we would have to deal with Verizon, not Samsung, because Samsung's deal with Verizon is to lock the bootloader for Verizon so they sell it. That's why Dev editions are not sold from Verizon, but Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wanab3:
eragon5779,

You are right about the locked boot loader, but as you said "...Samsung's deal with Verizon is to lock the boot loader..." Samsung is the culprit ultimately.

Sam could just give Ver the finger but instead Sam gives consumers the finger. Don't play on the Sam/Ver seesaw. They want us to play the divide and conquer game so we fight each other instead of them, don't be played.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] llama555:
Samsung isn't giving the customer the finger. The only way Verizon will sell their phones is if they lock the bootloader... They are forcing their hand. If it were up to Samsung clearly they wouldn't lock it (see Dev edition & T-Mobile/Sprint)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wanab3:
llama555,

Samsung is screwing customers over, and making even more money by signing a deal with Verizon. Verizon is giving them incentive to screw over customers, not forcing their hand. Then Samsung tries to play good cop by offering a dev edition, allowing them to make even more profit. Verizon is just acting as a middle man here, you all are pissed at the messenger(Verizon), instead of the cause of the bad news(Samsung).

Maybe I'm all wrong. If so please explain how I'm not seeing this right. I just don't understand why people blame carriers when its manufactures that make the hardware and lock it down, for carriers.

Just so we're clear. Verizon is a total doosh too, but they are a far larger behemoth to conquer. So we solve the smaller problem first, Samsung
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] llama555:
How do you know Verizon did not say "we will not sell your phones in our stores, unless you lock the boot loader"? How do we know Verizon is paying them? They could be refusing to sell unlocked phones at their stores which is probably 99% of their phone sales. Do you really think Verizon and ATNT would pay to have them locked. I think it's more plausible that they are refusing to sell these phones unlocked. Verizon has the leverage here, not Samsung.