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[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Oh ok. I thought # was synonymous and exclusive with Twitter.

I e-mailed them and one responded saying it wasn't Firewater b/c it is compatible with all build #s. But several ppl on here said they could do S-OFF on the old build #s, but not the newest one (1.57). So that's what led me to believe it was a compatibility issue.

I dunno............ I'm gonna try these 2 options and hope for the best.

http://rumrunner.us/instructions/

http://moonshine.io/instructions/

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Help with S-Off (HTC One M8 T-Mobile edition)

Well despite my previous postings, it appears that on my phone anyway, having S-ON AND the Harman/Kardon enabler (S-ON version) DON'T work well together. So I sadly had to disable HK. Until S-OFF can be achieved with the new OTA (Build # 1.57 for me), I'm stuck using the very good but not HK-good BoomSound. lol

I guess the lesson here is, if you're going to write an article about something, know your stuff. The guy who wrote the "how to get HK" article (theunlockr) failed to say that it might be VERY WISE to do S-OFF BEFORE you download any new OTAs, even though I've come to learn that this is common knowledge among PROGRAMMER techies. If he'd just done that, I'd have saved HOURS of my time that were spent trying to get around this.

I was able to e-mail the developers of Firewater yesterday via XDA and spoke in length to one of them about the topic. He had me try a newer version of Firewater (not sure if it was newer than the one I had, but maybe). I did get a different though still unsuccessful response when running it, which further proves my "common knowledge" statement above:

"remember the golden rule............NEVER take an OTA? Of course you don't xxxxxxx device patched by HTC, you are out of luck xxxxxxx"

I asked if they would work on making Firewater compatible with the newer OTA, but he said it "wasn't that simple". So unless someone comes up with a different way of resolving this (not gonna spend $1000 on a Java Card, even if they do work to get S-OFF), then fml. lol

RockStar2005

---------- Post added at 04:40 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:37 PM ----------

Yeah I think it was the HK flash enabler that was causing it (since disabling it I THINK I'm ok now, so far). See my post on the next page.

I'm going to do a backup now and then try Xposed again. If I can go a week with no more of my phone doing non-stop restarts (HK issue), then I think we'll be in the same boat.

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
The actual lesson here, is that if you are not 1000% CERTAIN of what you are doing to your phone, about what might happen if you do something marginal, and, have a RELIABLE, WORKING, back up plan, then you aren't ready to flash or modify your 700 dollar piece of electronic equipment.

It just amazes me how many people come into this forum, and start flashing/modding/ruining their precious phone, and then freak out when they can't figure out what/why/how to undo what they did.

Remember, no one here, and certainly NO DEVELOPER ANYWHERE owes any of us any explanation, help, or repair of something that you messed up because you weren't 1000% certain of what you were doing, and what you could do to fix it if you screwed something up.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Oh I agree. But it wasn't a developer, it was the author of an article on this topic. I should've done a backup before starting, so that part was my fault. But the fact is, I wouldn't have needed had something so vital as "never do a root or s-off after any new OTAs" should've been mentioned in big bold letters. I was just following instructions. That's ALL I can do. If it still didn't work and I'd done after being told the right way, then I would say ok I should've had a backup made. But in this case, I don't see it that way. It could've been easily avoided. I will always back up my phones from now on using the Restore option and know that rooting and s-off either have to be done right away or never.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
This is the internet, man, and the first and most important rule of the internet is to NEVER BELIEVE 100% of ANYTHING YOU READ ON IT

Always back up before trying ANYTHING, and, if you can't make a backup, or have a 100% reliable rescue plan, then DON'T DO IT..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
I was never told it to begin with, that's the problem. But yeah, backups fo' sho'!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] NYLUVBUG:
I have s-of. However I'm on build 1.12 on my replacement phone. My first phone was rooted, but I took the ota and was unable to load the h/k app. Now I'm reading that h/k will not work on a 1.12 phone. Can anyone confirm this?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Sounds like we're kinda in the same boat NY. My current phone is the original M8 I got from T-Mobile. I too was trying to obtain H/K. I rooted it AFTER receiving the OTA, but was unable to get S-OFF. I found out that there was an S-ON version of H/K, and got it and it worked. But then my phone started acting more and more loopy. This past week it kept restarting on its own non-stop, so I'm getting a replacement on Tuesday. What I believe happened was that by rooting it AFTER getting the OTA, I messed it up (thought it was H/K that messed it up, but now I no longer think that). I didn't create a pre-root backup (my bad), so that's why I need the replacement.

Per the H/K article I'd read (see below), the H/K enabler will work but only AFTER you get the OTA. The Build # should be 1.54 or later (mine's 1.57). So yes, it shouldn't work on 1.12. So, if your phone is rooted and you said you got S-OFF, then all you need is the OTA. Once the OTA is in, you should be able to go that article and get the S-OFF version of H/K, and it SHOULD most likely work for you.

Excerpt from link below: - Users with stock ROMs (especially US), if your base number is 1.1x then H/K won't show in your settings because it simply lacks the code. update to a newer base or flash a custom rom

I hope you did do a backup PRE-root and pre-S-OFF, just in case though. I didn't and now I need a replacement. Not sure if the backup would actually unroot it, but at least it would make it easier to I believe. I'm going to assume you've already rooted your current phone, which is good since you're obviously still pre-OTA.

BoomSound is great, and if I can't get or keep H/K on my replacement phone, it's ok, but I do think it sounds more robust with H/K. From the H/K sub-menu: Clari-Fi is a must. SoundAlive I just leave off. It makes some songs sound really good, but muddies up others.

This is where I got H/K from. Just wish it'd been mentioned to back everything up before starting. Not everyone is an expert and knows to do that, but now I do. lol If you're rooted and you said you got S-OFF, then skip down to Section IV and follow the instructions carefully to obtain the S-OFF version for your phone.

http://theunlockr.com/2014/05/08/enable-harman-kardon-enhancements-htc-one-m8-video/

Good luck!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] FreydNot:
Dude, this is the internet. Nobody owes you anything. You accept full responsibility for everything you do or don't do to your phone. If you are relying on other people to spoon feed you step by step instructions, you are doing it wrong and won't have a good experience.

You should be grateful for the people (and developers) who did the hard work to figure out how to do this stuff before you. Instead, you think they need to solve your problem for you. This attitude is exactly what makes developers give up on helping and stop sharing their work.

I am glad you aren't able to figure out how to chat with the firewater developers on IRC. I have a feeling they would feel very annoyed by your demands and "me me me" attitude. Why do you expect so much special treatment? Have you even donated?

Also, please don't get confused about donating. Donating does not entitle you to anything either. Donating is just a way for you to say thanks to the person you are donating to in the only way you are able (with money).

Sorry if this sounds harsh, but your attitude has been bugging me for a few weeks now and I just had to get this off my chest.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Never said I was owed anything. Just said would've been nice to know. I'm not the only person who's complained about it either. Not every person is a tech expert, but if you're writing an article about something, that should be kept in mind.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] NYLUVBUG:
Thnx for getting back to me. So if I take the OTA. I won't lose root and S-off? I froze the update notification since it was reminding me every 4 hours. I haven't done a backup and I should probably do so just to be safe. I've heard so many mixed reviews regarding the hk app that I'm still sitting on the fence.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Sure thing.

No, per the H/K article, you need the OTA in order to get H/K, and so root and S-OFF will not be lost since they are required as well.

Yeah, the minute I get mine, I'm gonna turn off update notification too, at least temporarily. They say that once you root, you may not get anymore notifications even if you leave it on, so you may wanna occasionally look online or check with HTC to see what Build # they're on. I think it's a small price to pay for luxury sound quality. You may also wanna get the Malwarebytes or Lookout security apps too as rooting does make it easier to get malware, etc. Some say that's BS though, so I dunno.

I think you wanna do the backup pre-Root and pre-S-OFF, but...... since you didn't get the OTA yet, I think you should still be ok if you do it now (pre-OTA).

I've heard mostly positive reviews. Here on xda I've heard ppl say it not only improves the sound quality of the music, but also the call sound quality too. At least one official review I saw online said it does make a difference, and I myself had it for like 3 weeks, and I did feel like it gave the music an extra punch. If I do decide to get it, I'm kind of hoping with S-OFF I'll have both BoomSound and H/K this time around (BoomSound was replaced when I had S-ON and H/K) so I can really compare the two. It says on the phone that Clari-Fi decompresses the music, so you get a fuller sound, which I agree with.

Here's the official review I mentioned above: http://bgr.com/2014/05/08/htc-one-m8-karman-kardon-edition-review-sound/

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] NYLUVBUG:
Cool beans man. Much appreciated. My last phone went screwy for some reason after I took the OTA. Couldn't attach pics in text messages was one of the issues. Surprisingly I took the phone back to the T-Mobile store and they replaced it. I was still within that 14 day trial period.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] NYLUVBUG:
Looks like I'll have to revert back to stock recovery in order to install the OTA
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Shanki2k8:
Hey everyone !! Did anyone try this s-off exploit? http://theroot.ninja/ . This maybe the solution to your s-off problem! I didnt have the chance to try it because I s-offed before taking the ota update !!!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] oRAirwolf:
I was a Firewater whelp victim. It worked for me like a charm. I was running Sinless GPE, so I had to revert back to a Sense based ROM. Sunshine worked fine with Maximus HD.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
Yeah but $25? Costs 20 to get a replacement phone from T-Mobile that comes with the firmware version 1.12.xxx and you can s-off
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Sounds like a good back up if Firewater doesn't work. Thanks Shanki!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fmedrano1977:
Yup, whelp message victim here. Sunshine worked like a charm on fenny's 1.57 ota stock rom.

Sent from my Nexus 7
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
$20? I just paid $5 for my replacement M8 (coming in today).

$25 is pretty crazy, but if nothing else works, it's nice to know this very likely will.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] npalmy:
I was a whelper now S-off with Sunshine. I got my M8 at the local Tmo store and all of the phones already had the update installed. So paying $25..well worth it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Really? Wow. I'm getting a replacement phone today. I hope it's not already updated, but if it is, this def will STILL work to achieve S-OFF?? Please confirm.

Thank You,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
Yes it will.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Ok very good! My replacement M8 comes in today, and one person on here just said their new one came already updated. This will work as my backup plan if that happens to me too. lol

Thanks King!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jcase:
I too am a gambling man.

Replacements are a gamble, some m8s will come with new firmware, some will have the "whelp" issue.

Yes it will work
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Awesome, thanks!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] theob_gyn88:
I bought (3)three T-Mobile HTC One M8'stwo weeks ago and I successfully unlocked, rooted, and S-Off all of them! Check the link below. This guy explains everything, slow and in full detail.:victory::highfive::cool:;)

http://sakitechonline.com/youtube-channel/
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Ahh! Awesome! So the order just to make sure is unlock, then root, then s-off, right?

Also, would you mind booting to HBOOT and just confirming that next to Radio and DSP (at top) it DOESN'T say "Invalid Version Info"? Then you and I will both know for sure that everything went right. I'd appreciate it!

Thank You,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] theob_gyn88:
Hey, I'm an apprentice just like you. Still getting used to all of the different terminology here. Just refer to that url address, and I'm sure it'll give you a big boost in Android 101.;)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Ok I'll take a look at it. Thanks again man!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] theob_gyn88:
Not a problem. Hit my "Thank You" meter, while you're at it.:D
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Just did!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] theob_gyn88:
hit yours again, too.

:good:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Thank you!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
He's working to help me out. Maybe he can fix your issues too? Still waiting for him to write me a guide for my specific issues, so can't verify anything, but sounds like he's helped a lot of ppl on here already. Check him out:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2718130

Good luck!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Hey theob......... that Sakitech guy is great! You're right, he's very good at not rushing through it, but not dragging either. I saw his video on how to get OTA updates on a rooted phone, and it worked perfectly! Now I TOO have an unlocked, rooted, S-OFF and even got the Harmon/Kardon mod as well! F'in love it! Oh and also the Sense 6 toolbox (via Xposed Framework) so I can finally disable that stupid annoying swipe to wake feature (just kept double-tap cuz that rocks)! So now when I put it in my pocket it's much less likely to turn on by accident. I finally NOW have the M8 smartphone I've been waiting for!

Just wanted you to know I'm all good now, thanks in part to your sharing/posting of Sakitech's youtube page. The H/K sound is def better than BoomSound. More clear and more powerful, better bass too. I only use the Clari-Fi option. LiveStage sometimes helps, but other times it makes the sound worse, at least in the car. Might be better on headphones (SoHo is best option there)?

Have a Happy 4th!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wendellc:
Had to use sunshine method to soff my sons m8...then 2 days later he jumped in the pool with his phone.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Haha...... that sux. Sorry to hear that man. It may not be damaged though.

The M8s are "somewhat" water or splash-proof. I guess it depends on how deep the water was and the length of time spent in the water too. They actually have an official splash-proof rating (see Twitter message from HTC marketing boss in article) as well. See that and the video too.

http://www.androidauthority.com/htc-one-m8-waterproof-361910/

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wendellc:
Man...thats good to know. My son Did mention that the liquid damage sticker is with the flash and it's not red....I got it in a bucket of rice so I'll check it out tomorrow.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
What's the liquid damage sticker? Where is it located??

Well I'm glad the info helped. Good chance it'll be ok, but not sure. If it was dropped in an actual pool, then may have been, In the video they're just putting it in a sink of water. lol

Yeah I heard that the rice thing helps. As you prob saw in one of my postings, I'd "bricked" my original M8 phone trying to root it. So using a replacement now. Oddly, when I wear my Maui Jim polarized sunglasses while looking at this one, I can actually see the screen, where with my last one I couldn't. So I prefer this one, even if it is refurbished. lol

Lemme know about sticker.

Thanks and good luck!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] theob_gyn88:
Now that's awesome!!!! Hit my "thanks meter", buddy.? Now, you can show me how you got the mod to change the "swipe to wake" feature. It pisses me off, too! Let's definitely keep in contact.

Also, I'm trying to figure out how to recover previous text messages I overwrote using my TI Bckp.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
How to "PIMP & ROCK OUT" your One M8 phone

This message is for everyone...............................

Follow these videos IN ORDER to achieve complete awesomeness on your M8 phone. This guy is great and doesn't rush through anything.

IMPORTANT ITEMS: DO NOT attempt to do any of these if you have downloaded ANY OTA updates already. Check Settings, About, Software Information. T-Mobile Software # should be 1.12 or 1.14 (under 1.2). If it is, proceed. If it's at like 1.5 or higher, DO NOT proceed. Instead, check here https://www.google.com/webhp?source...e=UTF-8#q=how do i downgrade my android phone to see if you can downgrade your Android version back down to 1.12/1.14. IF you succeed, THEN continue on. If not, then don't.

Also, make sure you're NOT using a USB 3.0 connection to the phone AT ANY TIME. USB 2.0 only, and if you got a Mac, then check here https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLHTorDR_h9wzlSNE_Ewoy6LpjXrTiEo3F for rooting (includes unlocking I think? s-off for mac....check elsewhere). These videos are all for PC only.

1) Unlock phone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEVSfwXsx-c&list=PLHTorDR_h9wzlSNE_Ewoy6LpjXrTiEo3F&index=3

2) Root phone (will erase all memory, so make sure you backup as instructed): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WuHFcGvUjwA&list=PLHTorDR_h9wzlSNE_Ewoy6LpjXrTiEo3F&index=4

3) S-Off phone (gives you more flexibility and in some cases is required for some mods to work I believe. You may have to repeat it a few times for it work): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--Hlms1BuPg&list=PLHTorDR_h9wzlSNE_Ewoy6LpjXrTiEo3F&index=2

4) Get OTA updates on a rooted phone (Rooted phones REQUIRE extra steps in order to get new OTA updates. I've saved this video in my Bookmarks for when future updates are made available, and I highly recommend doing the same. You'll STILL get update notifications though, so don't worry.): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPPT5J8xG6w&index=15&list=PLHTorDR_h9wzlSNE_Ewoy6LpjXrTiEo3F

And the optional #5: To get Harmon/Kardon sound on your T-Mobile HTC One M8 (which is more powerful and more clear than BoomSound), then check here. I have it (S-Off version) and it's FANTASTIC! If you've done Steps 1-4 above (Step 3 is not necessary for this, but recommended), then just skip to Section IV and follow that. Again, I recommend doing Step 3 above too first before this. If you don't, then you'll need the S-ON version (see link below).

http://theunlockr.com/2014/05/08/enable-harman-kardon-enhancements-htc-one-m8-video/

And yes, PowerAmp on "Rock" preset with DVC and Bluetooth DVC TURNED OFF in settings (Audio, Advanced Tweaks), as well as Audio Buffer Size and Thread Priority set to highest # listed. Look and Feel: Status/Bar Notif.....check "<< In Notification" box and same in General (<< Button Resets Current Track & Delete Action checked). I keep Lockscreen for PowerAmp off.

If you would like screenshots of my calibrated EQ settings, just reply to this post. They're both based off of the "Rock" preset with Limit OFF.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] orangekid:
Guys, I like the enthusiasm.

But let's try to keep things on topic of the thread, if you want to go over good EQ settings etc, start a thread in General, so that we don't take over someone else's thread.

Also, the "thanks" button shouldn't be begged for, it's not a good look. If someone wants to hit it, they will.

Thanks.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Orange....... ok no problem.

Anyone who has questions to ANYTHING I posted here that is NOT DIRECTLY RELATED to this thread (not including unlocking/rooting/OTA as they ARE directly related) should just PM me. I'll be happy to help answer questions.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] theob_gyn88:
That's true. Gotcha!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Fenny:
Will a quick TAR of /system/ using busybox work without root, or do you need me to root, and dump it with dd?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Behold_this:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] system dump can be found here:

http://d-h.st/5Td

Courtesy of user [MENTION=4370056]mattlgroff[/MENTION]
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jcase:
Got it, thanks
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Fenny:
Great. :D Feel free to PM me if you need someone with this variant to test anything. I'm also idling in the #htcm8 channel on freenode.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] epsix:
So if weaksauce work for T-Mobile that mean we don't have to unlock via htcdev? Wow...that'll be awesome.:)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jcase:
It's not going to work sorry
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Devildog78965:
http://nooooooooooooooo.com/
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Behold_this:
Such is life. Thanks for taking the time to look into it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] essdiddy:
Yeah you lose them with root. There are apks already in the international forum for flashlight calc and scribble.

Firewater worked flawless. With dev unlock and a traditional root. Philz cwr is working well also with ext-sd support.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Fenny:
Thanks for looking m8.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] epsix:
Thanks for replying.:D

Just got home from T-Mobile with m8 with your money. Hehehe j/k
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] epsix:
Guys i've unlock bootloader fro htcdev, install TWRP recovery and root. But when i try S-OFF i keep getting this?

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device ente

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device ente

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device ente

ld power for 60 seconds !!

............................................................

............................................................

............................................................

it won't stop any help?

thanks

Edit, Darn...Finally got S-OFF!!!!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Fenny:
I got a good list of the files that are missing, and pulled them from my device before doing the HTC unlock. Get them here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2714522
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] saltyd69:
Mine doesn't even get to !!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device ente

Just goes straight to whelp, this sucks......
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Fenny:
I had to run though it a few times before it would work. I found that toggling adb, and being on a RELIABLE connection were the keys for me. It seems like they have pulled some of the same old tricks as with the old HTC unlockers (HTC rhodium style). The actual payload appears to be sent over the network.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] saltyd69:
Toggling ADB?

And I'm assuming you are referring to a reliable data connection?

Thanks for the response......