yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire TV General] Greenlava.net:
Anyoine have any luck with the Nyko Playpad? I assumed that since the PlayPad Pro was listed in the UI, that I would have similar luck with the PlayPad, but I haven't been able to discover the Playpad at all.

Dan
[Fire TV General] kairnage:
Nyko has a new Playpad for the Fire that is being released on the 18th. I ordered one.
[Fire TV General] tarvoke:
dang that doesn't look half bad. and rechargeable == nice. I may have to retire my beloved 360 wired controller.

---------- Post added at 05:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:46 PM ----------

ordered one too.

damn your scaly hide, kairnage.
[Fire TV General] kairnage:
LOL. I have been using my Ouya but it has the touch required issue that other controllers have. The Nyko shouldn't.
[Fire TV General] iamtek7:
Got two of the Nyko's PlayPad Pro's today @ Gamestop. Charging now and will let all know how they work.
[Fire TV General] kairnage:
They are not two of the old ones with the flip up holder are they?
[Fire TV General] iamtek7:
No. Brand new. Connected right away in FireTV and am able to move around. Browsing with ES File explorer with it now.

Trying to push some NESvRoms now
[Fire TV General] kairnage:
Cool. I called the closest Gamestop and they told me they had them. Luckily I called again before I made the 150 mile round trip and it turned out they weren't the new ones.
[Fire TV General] Jersey732:
Logitech F710 works

plug in the usb wireless receiver and it gets recognized almost instantly
[Fire TV General] lsdlsdlsdlsd:
Has anyone had luck with a Logitech Cordless Rumblepad 2?

http://www.logitech.com/en-us/support/287

http://www.amazon.com/Logitech-Cordless-Rumblepad-Vibration-Feedback/dp/B0002XJBGE

When I plug the receiver into my Fire TV, I can see it light up in response to me pressing buttons on the controller, just like it does attached to a PC, but I don't get any input.
[Fire TV General] iamtek7:
The Nyko PlayPad Pro's I picked up from Gamestop work great in the FireTV. Flawleess.

Have John NES and Mame4Droid installed but having some keymap issues, still working through them.

John NES got it working pretty good, but not much progress in Mame4Droid / Mame4All.

Also, the Logitech Dinovo works nice, keypad and buttons navigate, keyboard works.
[Fire TV General] Vidikron:
Does it feel solid? Buttons feel good?

Also, what issues are you having with MAME? Select "Configure General Inputs" below the ROM list and you can map buttons on your controller. Or are you trying something more complicated?
[Fire TV General] 2fastkuztoms:
Does anyone have tried the chatpad of the xbox 360 controller to see if it works as a keyboard?
[Fire TV General] tarvoke:
that's a pretty good idea ;) I had forgotten all about those - last time I looked at them was years ago and they were still way over priced. but now they are dirt cheap - I ordered a couple just now, since I can use them for other things even if it doesn't work on the firetv.

sorry I don't have any answer, but I will eventually, if no one else has reported back before mine are delivered. I can say that the headset doesn't work (no surprise there, really -- no usb audio works on the firetv yet)
[Fire TV General] 2fastkuztoms:
I have one but my controller is wireless and i need a dongle, im deciding to buy the dongle or a mini keyboard
[Fire TV General] ralphkaz:
anyone know if the the generic xbox 360 controller dongles would OK or does it have to be a genuine microsoft one?
[Fire TV General] 2fastkuztoms:
i was going to ask the same, searching to buy one right now. I remember reading someone using a generic, let me check to see if I can find it.

edit: here's the link but it doesnt say if is oem or generic

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51662898&postcount=84
[Fire TV General] hottnikkz:
My generic dongle works. As previously stated some where else the circle around the xbox button flashes constantly but it doesn't interfere in any way with gameplay. I have not tried with more than one xbox controllers but the emulators I've loaded recognize 4 spots as being available.
[Fire TV General] whoamanwtf:
I have no clue, I only used it on the regular FireTV
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
You have to sideload/install the Settings.apk to get the BlueTooh working right on the FTV Sticks..
[Fire TV General] motoatrix:
When I heard FTV stick was able to emulate NES/SNES games I went out and picked up Nyko playpad pro yesterday and was able to paired it up Amazon Fire Tv stick without a problem. Games loaded and just had to re-mapped the controllers, after all it works but I feel the nyko buttons and d-pad is somewhat dull/hard to control at times, I've tested out alot of games and they all seems to be this way.

I'm thinking of returning it and get ps4 controller, anyone here can comment ps4 with emulator games.
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
Well on the PS4 & 3 & XBox & Wii controllers you would need root to be able to remap things. So they might not be useful on a nonRooted FireTV Stick.. http://www.aftvnews.com/fix-ps4-dualshock-4-button-mapping-on-the-fire-tv/

What store did you pick up a the Nyko PlayPad Pro from ?? Can you test the Mouse Mode within sideloaded apps like showbox, or a sideloaded ESPN Watch ??
[Fire TV General] simondo22:
I paid 32 euro(20%less) and the controller sucks.

Qualetiy of the controller is so dam stupid.

Compared to a x360 controller and a ps3 one. Both cost the same.and they are much better
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
Are you talking about the Nyko PlayPad Pro ?? If so, how is the BT connectivity & Mouse Mode on Apps?
[Fire TV General] simondo22:
No, I talk about the orginal fire tv gamepad.

That thing is so waste.

I would like to have a Competition pro to play Rick Dangerous.
[Fire TV General] collindv:
Interesting. I have a fire TV game pad and I love it. No complaints about quality at all.
[Fire TV General] ill_litirit:
I have a non-rooted fire tv and I have no problems using the DS4 with SuperGNES or Mupen64. Buttons are easily mappable in-app (though using a Bluetooth mouse helped with the N64 emulator). In both emulators, the touchpad button on the DS4 opens up the emulator menu, which is nice.

I believe that the playstation button on the ds4 also acts as the firetv home button, which kicks me back to the FTV home screen - but I'm not 100% about that.

My question is- what are the "mapping issues" presented by using the ds4 on a non-rooted FTV? Is it only on native apps / games? I can tell you that navigating the ui is just fine, X selects and O cancels just like on an actual playstation.
[Fire TV General] nyder:
Really? To each his own then. I have the AFTV Gamepad and I like it. Nice response, feels good, plays well, solid construction. Prefer it over my 360 by a long shot.
[Fire TV General] magmatron:
Original Xbox controller works partially

I just tried a controller for the original Xbox system, with a USB plug soldered on, and it works partially. The sticks and buttons work, but unfortunately the triggers do not. It's okay for simple platform or puzzle games, but not for racers.
[Fire TV General] tinblue:
When using a PS4 controller with the game Terraria it will not detect the R1 or R2 buttons. Its basically useless as you can't dig.

Terraria also will not detect an XBOX 360 Controller despite it working fine in the Fire menus.

I don't know if this is a specific problem with Terraria.

I think if you are only interested in getting these controllers working for emulation then they are fine. If you intend to play commercial games from the Fire Store then you should be careful - it seems a genuine Amazon Controller is the way to go for full compatibility.
[Fire TV General] jdoupe:
I have the same problem with the DS4. The game "Naught 2" does not recognize any buttons and the game "Hero of Many" does not recognize the d-pad or L/R triggers.

Both paid apps. Both useless and impossible to play.
[Fire TV General] jslmc1:
BTW, I picked up the Nyko PlayPad Pro from Gamestop for $13. Flashed it to the 101 firmware and can confirm that on the Fire Tv Stick, mouse mode works in programs such as es file explorer and xbmc. Mouse mode makes a ring on the screen for a cursor. I just tried it in the xfinity app version 2.4 and mouse mode works there. People looking for xfinity to go on the fire tv stick can use the playpad pro to login and navigate the xfinity go app. It is a bit awkward switching between mouse mode and controller mode to navigate around GUI.
[Fire TV General] player911:
I just bought the Gamestop RedSamuri controller for $12. Paired right up and working perfectly but experiencing the same Terraria issues. The triggers are working in the menus but not in the game.

Not sure how to fix that. Shame they dont have a controller setup because the trigger feels a little wonky to use for that.

Any ideas?
[Fire TV General] ill_litirit:
You're right about terraria. I did get the triggers working for it eventually on a rooted FTV using the modded .kl file from another thread on here. Now it plays perfectly.
[Fire TV General] player911:
Do you remember where you got it?
[Fire TV General] jdoupe:
I have tried three controllers so far. The Playstation DS4, Xbox 360, and Logitech F710. I recommend the Logitech F710, and here's why:

I have tried two separate DS4 controllers with moderate success. The DS4 did not play nice with any games designed for xinput. If you're looking for an emulator controller (direct input) then the DS4 is a great choice, but I did not have much success with modern games. I played Modern Combat 4, but I could not crouch. Many other games would not recognize the d-pad/analog.

I then tried the Xbox 360 for windows (xinput). It connected perfectly and worked with all app store games I tested. This is not a good emulator controller unless of course you want to remap the buttons for each game on the *kl* file. I love the 360 controller and I think it's the most comfortable design ever made. HOWEVER, the USB dongle will not load microsoft drivers to the android fire TV. Weird right ;) This makes the controller search and search for a "link" even though it's already connected. The four LED lights will continually blink! Also, besides disconnecting the battery, I cannot find a way to turn the controller OFF. Lastly, the 360 analog has zero deadzone and you cannot calibrate the controller on the fire tv. As such, you may notice random movements in your FPS. It's a no go for me.

I then tried the Logitech F710. The goldie locks controller! The F710 has a switch on the controller to change between direct input and xinput. Furthermore, it has a 'mode' button that will swap the d-pad input with the left analog input. This is surprisingly useful.

PROS of Logitech F710:

--Nice weight

--Versatility of dinput and xinput

--Comfortable

--Analog deadzone. Yes, this belongs in PROS because the controller will not require any calibration.

CONS of Logitech F710:

--A bit small.

--Some controllers have a hardware defect and loose the connection. This happened with my first F710, which I returned. My new F710 works great. The controller has two manufacture numbers (C-U0003 and G-R0001). The two I had were both G-R0001, one works and one doesn't. Luck of the draw I guess. I have no experience with the C-U0003.

If anyone buys the Logitech F710. I would suggest you download the game M.A.C.E., and play for at least an hour. This game requires constant analog input and you'll quickly learn whether you're F710 is a dud or a winner. I'm very happy with mine.
[Fire TV General] player911:
Can someone confirm if the Nyko Playpad (nonPro) works correctly with terraria and others after the latest firmware update?

I have a RedSamurai and I like it but games arent picking up the triggers. The gamestop has the smaller playpad for about the same price. I have to exchange or swap out because my controller has a broken left analog.

I swapped out to the nyko playpad and I dont really like the feel. I also cannot get it to pair with the Amazon Fire stick. I updated the firmware to 101 but still nothing. It pairs right up to my Nexus 7 but the stick never finds it.

I cant find a Pro anywhere locally. Gamestop are out. They said shipment comes in tomorrow so we'll see. At this point I'll probably go back to the red samauri. I love the PS3 feel and separated dpad which made roms play awesome. I just cant get the triggers working in games.
[Fire TV General] Petesky:
I'm looking for a good controller for epsxe , should I get the official aftv controller or is the ouya controller just as good :confused:
[Fire TV General] player911:
I have an ouya and i don't like the controllers. I like the PlayStation Dpad location and setup, especially for epsxe and SNES.

The Red Samurai from GameStop is $12 and pairs great. The Nyko PlayPad Pro is the same controller as the official AFTV one.

The only issue with the samurai is that the button mapping for the triggers don't match the official gamepad so Terrarria and some others don't work without root. Emulators can just remap.

So those 2 would be my choices. Nyko Gamepad Pro being the best choice if you can find one.
[Fire TV General] WPeterW:
Received my Ouya controller yesterday, paired, no problems. Working great with Asphalt. But it does not work with Minecraft, any tips ?
[Fire TV General] player911:
I am about to give up on my red samurai controller. First one worked great except the left analog only worked diagonally. Replaced with another and it won't hold a charge. Works plugged in but shuts off immediately when unplugged.

So test out thoroughly.
[Fire TV General] swicago:
I bought two Red Samurai from GameStop. They both pair, however I can't seem to use both the emulators I have tried.

What mode is everyone using "K" or "G" mode(bottum of controller). I have mine on "G"

I tried Mupen64Free and RetroArch. Neither let me enable a 2nd controller. And both controllers seem to see the select as "back" and the start as "enter" buttons.

Any tips would be helpful...
[Fire TV General] mike2246:
I have same problem with Red Samurai, I'm trying to use Genesis/N64/Snex/PS1 Emulators and without being able to reprogram Start I'm lost. does the Nyko Propad Plus, Logitech F710, or PS4 Dualshock have this issue? and which of the 3 will work will all emulators. Trying to find a Kid friendly solution that once it's programmed it'll work consistently.
[Fire TV General] dismissthesky:
Which emulators are you using? The emulators made by the .emu guy all have the ability to remap controls on a per device basis (so that you can remap start and select and such on the controller while still retaining those functions on the remote. For those four systems I use MD.emu, Mupen64plus, SNES9X EX, and EPSXE. All of those should allow you to remap start no problem.
[Fire TV General] swicago:
Ok on mupen64, I had to use a mouse enabled device to physically click on the off/on button to turn on 2 controller. Just selecting it with remote never turns it to on. Mapping works for the red samurai....

I hope I can get retro arch working, as it seems easier to use one app for all, instead of multiple apps.
[Fire TV General] player911:
Honestly if you wanting a kid friendly dedicated emulator machine then get an Ouya. Supports multiple controllers out of the box and pairs easily with PS3 and Xbox and all Bluetooth controllers. The ouya is hands down the best gaming box I've found that just works.

The fire TV stick is great for travel but picky on getting everything to work. Seems some apps work with certain gamepads and others work with others. I loved the feel and ease of pairing the Red Samauri. I might keep it around for my Ouya.

I just bought a Nyko Playpad Pro but haven't tested it on the Fire TV yet. Worked fine on my Nexus 7 with Snesx. I get a minimal response delay on both the Nyko and Samauri in super Mario world. Mario games are great for testing delay times. I don't experience this on the Ouya.

Update

Just tested my Nkyo Pro and it works great. I didnt fully test everything but terraria works as expected with the trigger issue I had with the Samsuri.

Overall I like the Samuri feel better... reminds me of a PS3. Felt great in hand and in game. The Nyko feels like a 360 controller and kind of clunky. Feedback on the buttons arent the best. Seems I have to push down pretty hard to get the buttons to register. They may losen up over time. The joysticks feels good on both.

Mouse mode works great on the Nyko. Great option to have on the fire stick for traveling and web browsing.

The Samsuri has keyboard mode and Gamepad mode. I had to actually pair using both modes for it to work. The difference is keyboard mode would work better for mapping probably as each button is assigned a letter off a keyboard. Up = W vs Up = Up in gamepad mode. Might possibly be the way you need to setup 2 controllers; 1 set to G and ths other set to K.
[Fire TV General] -beluga-:
Neither does mine. Lame.

Let's all bug Amazon and Moga about it, with some luck they'll fix it...
[Fire TV General] collindv:
My moga pro pairs fine in "B" mode. Seems like I had it paired in "A" mode at one time also.
[Fire TV General] akevit:
Did you ever get your DS4 to work?
[Fire TV General] mando209:
The ps3 power a controller seems to work with the amazon store games.tried shadow fighters,Leo,buggy racer.
[Fire TV General] player911:
I've been experimenting with my many controllers. I get like a second lag on my PlayPad Pro and Samurai. The Ouya controller has the quickest response. My PS3 gamepad worked the best on my other android consoles but my fireTV is not rooted so no dice.

You can only really tell with like Mario games or split second platforming games. I don't see similar lag on my other android consoles.

No big deal but an observation. I haven't tried Terraria with the Ouya controller to see if the triggers worked. Just some observations.

I liked the Samauri the best for emulators because of the Dpad. The PlayPad Pro for its compatibility. And the Ouya for its response. The touchpad works o the ouya controller as a mouse... except the Ouya has a horrible touchpad.

I'd be interested to see how a DS4 plays and responds.
[Fire TV General] mrpap:
How have you gotten the ouya touchpad to work? are you rooted?
[Fire TV General] emtownsend:
I can also add to the list that the Moga GameOn Anywhere does not work with the FireTV
[Fire TV General] ellecsor:
Having issues with the Nyko Playpad Pro that I bought off Amazon. I was able to successfully update the firmware (I think), but I can't get the controller to power on. It's been charging for about 5 hours now, and the orange light is still on...nothing happens when I press and hold the home button. This is the one I bought http://www.amazon.com/Playpad-Andro...d=1420074453&sr=8-1&keywords=nyko+playpad+pro. Any suggestions?
[Fire TV General] emtownsend:
I thought I read in one of the reviews on Amazon that one user had to try multiple chargers and found the highest rated one that he had, then let it stay on the charger for 6 hours before it even registered a charge. Anyway, have you tried other chargers, specifically higher output versions? (If you're lucky enough to have some old phone chargers laying around). Just a thought...
[Fire TV General] ellecsor:
I have. It's been on my iPad (10w) charger overnight, and still can't get it to turn on. Amazon is sending a replacement...hopefully that one isn't completely dead. Thanks for your suggestion.
[Fire TV General] Garff1e:
Sorry if this has been covered but I'm new to this. I have emulators side loaded and wanted to use an old wired xbox 360 game pad. Once connected to the USB port it continually blinks but controls nothing. Any ideas?
[Fire TV General] player911:
No Im not rooted. It just worked. Maybe you have to be in an app that supports mouse.
[Fire TV General] Nf13:
Has anyone tried this controller Tronsmart Mars G01:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qb6EzPpMn4o

in the German Amazon list : http://www.amazon.de/Tronsmart-G01-Controller-Gamepad-Android-schwarz/dp/B00QPAPZ9K

it says that it supports FTV and the review video looks good.
[Fire TV General] ellecsor:
Ok, I'm giving up on the Nyko Playpad Pro. I can't seem to get a working one from Amazon...I can't get any of them to charge up and the Gamestops around me are out. I'm looking for a controller with mouse mode so I can also use it to navigate sideloaded apps like like Showbox and Xfinity. Does the Ouya or Red Samurai have mouse mode? I know I can go with the Favi mouse/keyboard or the iPazzport, but I would also like a controller for the occasional game.
[Fire TV General] meltmanti:
The Red Samurai does NOT have a mouse emulation mode.

It has Gamepad or Keyboard modes - which is why I bought another Nyko Playpad Pro and am returning the Red Samurai controllers.

I've had fantastic luck with the Nyko's.
[Fire TV General] ashmanmb:
Ouya one mouse pad works.
[Fire TV General] emtownsend:
Are there newer models of Gamepad Pro's coming??

The GamePads that folks are buying right now - those are the newest models, correct? The Gamestop by me said they are getting new models this week... which is why, I think, that Amazon's ship times show "Usually ships in 1 to 2 months"..? Or was Gamestop just blowing smoke to wait for a re-stock? I have noticed that all Gamestops around my area are poorly stocked with bluetooth game controllers.
[Fire TV General] Y314K:
I got lucky & was able to find the last brand new one at 4 stores. Gave two of them as gifts along with a couple of FireTV Sticks. So far I haven't heard of a problem with them.. Got my last two charging so I can test them out... The GameStop Nyko Playpad Pro controllers seem to be the ones for tables and must come with the generic Android FW. I thought about upgrading FW until I saw the amount of problems the folks that bought the FireTV version on Amazon had... So just left it alone...

The two I am charging right now did something odd at first plug in... All the lights keep coming on in order. So I unplugged it & turned it on thru the Home Button, Then I turned it off & replugged it. This time it started to charge correctly. This was all done in GamePad mode...

Hopefully they will get more in stock.. I probably need to find one more to gift... So far they've worked perfectly on FireTV Sticks... Plant to test it on my rooted FireTV's this week.. No idea how long they last though..
[Fire TV General] squirrelfriend:
I've given up on Nyko too. The first one I got had charging issues and the replacement that Amazon sent me was also pretty much dead on arrival. I wonder if the Fire TV edition is any better but I'm not taking any more chances with Nyko ever.
[Fire TV General] ashmanmb:
I have the ouya controller and the play pad pro. Actually like the play pad pro over the ouya because it works better due to extra buttons help control items in some games. I'll be selling my ouya controller and pick up another play pad pro
[Fire TV General] player911:
Same gamepads, just the newer ones have updated firmware to specifically work with the Fire TV.

You can buy a GamePad Pro and manually update the firmware. It is super easy. Just connect to PC, download the app and firmware, hold UP+A (I think) while hitting in a reset button on the back. It puts it in flash mode. The App finds it, flashes, reboots, good to go.

The Ouya has MouseMode right on the Touchpad ala PS4 style and just works. It is finicky but works without switching anything. The Samauri does not have mouse mode. Although it does have a "Keyboard mode" where all buttons get translated into letters on a keyboard... which you could then translate using an app.
[Fire TV General] ashmanmb:
I can't complain about the nyko. I got one on amazon was a dud. Returned it and got one from gamestop and saved a few extra $. Works good. I think if you get one that works, it is a different story. But if I had gotten a 2nd one that was no good. I'd stay away too
[Fire TV General] dbvolcom:
Another controller that works for fire tv is pro ex controller for ps3. Ive only tried it with sonic 2 though! you can get them on ebay for around 15