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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ks3rv3rg:
One thing I was a little disappointed in from coming from the S4 to the S5 (minus root) was no more quick glance, and have the camera modes...you'd think Samsung would keep them? Hell, even my future father-in-law's Note 3 has all the S4 camera modes, plus a few new ones! WTH Samsung!

Is this possibly something we can add in Touchwiz ROMs once root is achieved?[/QUOTE]

Yeah, someone could port over the s4 or LG camera app for example and then you'd have those features.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
What did FoxFi figure out?

So, the excellent folks at FoxFi figured out how to enable Wifi hotspot on the Verizon S5.

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/2...ng-back-to-verizon-samsung-phones-on-kit-kat/

That is huge for me. On our Corporate plan, Verizon will not allow us to add that feature to a single phone (makes no sense). Happy to spend that $8. Yes you have to install a cert and there is a VPN connection that takes place. I am ok with that. The question is, did they figure out anything else that might be an exploit we could use for root? It seems it would not be in their interest to share if they did.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Yup! And a [HOW-TO] on it in the 'Apps' section at the bottom of the VZW S5 subforum.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
I did this too, but then quickly uninstalled everything and cleared my certificates because of two reasons. One you always have to have a security lock screen which I hate and two it gives permission to 3rd parties that can read your emails and other private info on your phone so no thanks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
I've always been rooted and unlocked like you too, but this is the first tolerable phone I've had without it. The only thing that I absolutely need is the exchange email with the pin bypass. Or at the very least let the email app use fingerprint for security.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ballisticevo:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=51873890
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] fillyo:
Chainfire will not work on root for ATT or Verizon. Direct quote from G+ in response to me asking: "Nope. There are others out there much more skilled than I in doing exploit-based roots"

I want root simply to uninstall bloat and wi-fi tethering, I care less and less about custom ROMs.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kurofox23?:
Agreed. Wifi tethering, greenify, exchange bypass, and ad block are the only things I feel are necessary. This is a solid phone
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tehgyb:
Newb question... Haven't gotten a new device since my s3, have an s5 in the mail...

What Knox and why is everyone concerned with tripping its counter? :X
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] SirWise23:
Yes, can't wait for Root. Verizon has A LOT of bloat. Really, the phone is pretty fast, so I don't even mind the bloat, I just want to be able to Restore some of may saved game info and such from Titanium Backup.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
This.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Broadley1:
X2:)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mexiken:
This x3
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] prdog1:
Voids warranty and can't be reverted. :cool:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] wonderrx:
I would like more info on this too please!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mexiken:
Google is your friend.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Franzie3:
GO here to learn about KNOX. Basically its enhanced security. https://www.samsungknox.com/en/blog/what-samsung-knox
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] syu78:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2717061

Haven't tried it out yet.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] blulite:
Needs working recovery, which we don't have.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Updating OP
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Appreciate the find but this method is completely pointless as this is the exact same thing as just flashing the SuperSU zip in a recovery like unlocked devices always have. We need an exploit root method here not recovery-based (we need root BEFORE recovery is even possible).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] buci1er:
Did I hear correctly when I saw that most of the more established developers are not even trying to root the SGS5 for BMW?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jparasita:
I am wondering if we get a recovery if chainfires root method would work
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
If we can get a recovery we automatically have root. Seriously, all you have to do is flash SuperSU.zip in recovery and you're done.

Unfortunately we will not be able to get recovery without attaining root first due to the locked bootloader. Even if we do attain recovery after root it will probably trip a Knox flag and we will lose warranty as well as Private Mode (that's assuming the bootloader even let's a custom recovery pass in the first place).

The best and most important focus at this point would be attaining root itself (via an exploit in the kernel or OS). Unfortunately that is something that is beyond my scope of knowledge and experience so will have to leave that into other hands. Just wanted to clarify the situation this device is currently in.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I do not see it listed that anyone can read your email. Everything I see looks legitimate for what they are doing. See below.

My guess is they are setting up a VPN connection to a server they control, and then impersonating the Verizon server that tells your phone whether or not it is authorized for mobile hotspot. If that is how it works, I thing it is genius on their part.

-Network communication

view Wi-Fi connections

view network connections

change network connectivity

connect and disconnect from Wi-Fi

full network access

-Your applications information

retrieve running apps

-Bluetooth

pair with Bluetooth devices

access Bluetooth settings

-System tools

modify system settings

-Affects battery

prevent device from sleeping
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Maphack:
Small price to pay lol

Edit: then again I don't pay for home Internet so it's too clutch

Sent from my SM-G900V using Xparent Skyblue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
You must've not fully read the pop ups then. Before you could enable VPN it clearly stated that information. With my s4 I only used the hot spot for using my laptop in the middle of no where, so it was nothing that I needed, just a decent perk but not worth the potential risk. Always make sure to read everything before you do stuff like this. If someone wants to try these steps on their website, then confirm what I have said is true once CAREFULLY reading the pop ups, I can have further confirmation of my claims
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
(@mkitchin) Did you actually look at the number of certificates that can monitor your phone?!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I did not. Are you saying there are a ton out of the box, or FoxFi made a significant change? I realize they had to add at least one.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ravenofdoom:
Not sure if it's as simple as them mimicking a verizon VPN server to pass the check - if that were true, I'd think this method would work with every single verizon device (with VPN).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Thank you!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] bill15872:
www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/ET-G900VMKAVZW
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Martinjv71:
God..please go start other threads if everyone is going off topic..cameras..hotspots...vpn's..come on people quit being lazy and write other threads..THIS THREAD IS FOR ROOT STATUS ONLY....QUIT WASTING OTHER PEOPLE'S READING TIME AND SHOW OTHERS RESPECT FOR THEIR TIME.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] mkitchin:
I brought up the FoxFi hotspot topic to point out FoxFi had found a creative way around Verizon security and wondered if it could possibly lead to something more.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
Valid point: ^^^
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Well, TBH, even this thread is basically a duplicate of the root one. But I understand what you're saying
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
The other thread is a bounty funding thread. Not a discussion. This was also the first thread to bring up the topics of rooting and exploits, so technically any other thread discussing it would be the duplicate, not this one.

We really should get back to the real topic. If it doesn't directly pertain to rooting, exploiting, bootloaders, or recovery please start a new thread or use a thread that already has already been made.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Whoops, my bad for some reason I thought this was this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2729232 thread, which I think is basically useless..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Syn Ack:
Yeah I don't know why he made it when at the time this thread was already 30+ pages.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Secondlaw:
What are you using for this? I'm using PDANet but prefer wireless (not blue tooth).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
Fit works with wifi..I connected my laptop and nexus 7 to it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
I made it when the M8 people invaded and this thread got sidetracked for that ten or so pages.

Sent from my white SM G900V on XDA Premium 4
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
FoxFi is up and running full power for Verizon. See the How-To in the apps section at the bottom of the VZW S5 Subforum page.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] enigma99a:
Can someone with a Verizon version do me a favor and do a

ps|grep root

from the command shell? And then go to pastebin.com and link it here as the output will be kinda huge. TIA
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LocoFreek25:
Here you go:

http://pastebin.com/jRSFYseH

is there any way to tell what's running on the secure kernel?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] enigma99a:
You referring to SELinux or Kernel Processes?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] LocoFreek25:
I thought Trustzone worked on a separate, secure kernel running. I guess I could have misunderstood that. Maybe some processes are regarded as secure. I'm thinking of how Motorola allowed a process to modify the bootloader, which was executed in the TrustZone environment.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsachi:
Has anyone been able to achieve temporary root on this device? If the problem is bootloader, can temporary root be done through adb?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
Nope.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kinjo28:
Oooooooooh a kinda huge tba hope. Yesssss!#!!!#
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
What? Where? When? Why> How?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsachi:
Thanks. I must say hearing you talking about being stuck its disheartening consider your experience with Samsung. :)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
......and
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
Well, experience with samsung has nothing to do with it. What I am doing now is all new to me.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] urcboss07:
I don't know I should get rid of my lovely s4 with mdk unlocked bootloader and get Verizon Galaxy s5. I think I gonna stick with my mdk s4 for a little longer since I have a lot of freedoms to flash different roms.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
I did. It's sad, but I got over it.

Rooting on Verizon seems to be getting Harder and harder these days. I figured I'd take a chance and spoil myself to one last phone that can hopefully get root in the future
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
This my first phone without root i find its not bad... just want to get away from this bloat i love the phone its snapy ill just enjoy it without root
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] scadilla:
I'm with you Kam1Kaz3. I had a Verizon galaxy s3 running cyanogen 10.2. I was a little concerned about not having root but so far the phone has been great. Would love to get rid of some of the bloat but other than that I love the phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] codyvance:
The good thing is most of the bloat can be disabled without root..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] razzrmaxx:
The bad is that it cant be uninstalled and they're killing system space
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] codyvance:
True..
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
I disabled print service anything i could find that wouldnt kill the system so far better battery fingerprint turns itself back on after awhile
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Yeah, killing that system space that can't be used otherwise? Since it is on a partition you cant write to?

Clear data

Clear cache

disable and it used a minimal amount of usable data
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tsachi:
Totally agree. After running on safe strap with limited partition size, I can't say system partition it's ever an issue for space
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] spigget:
Unlocked bootloader edition available

FYI, $599 USD

http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/cell-phones/ET-G900VMKAVZW

I just ordered one.

Just thinking it would be worth it to do the developer edition, and sell the one in your hand on ebay, loose a couple bucks, and profit from a completely unlocked phone.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Mnorton1228:
I'd still love root on our phones just because I've been rooting since I had my Thunderbolt (4 phones ago) ago but this is being very bearable. Tasker and Greenify seem to be working fine without root so that has definitely made me happy because for some reason I was under the impression they required root. I just hope that if we have to use safestrap it works better than it did on my Razr Maxx. It was extremely annoying to use in my opinion and a lot of the development that I was using always had something broken on it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] designgears:
Wow, [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] getting a little crazy in here!!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] krazy_smokezalot:
[emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji23][emoji3]

Sent from my SM-N900V
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
Well I said this in the bounty thread, but apparently it wasn't important enough to be left alone...

I've got some programming experience, fairly proficient in PHP (not exactly hard core programming language but the theory should be useful to me). I've been keeping an eye on and browsing through a lot of linux privilege escalation exploits, found one that may be helpful. I'll give it a crack

No promises, in fact I'm doubtful as this is way out of my league, but you never know. Might help someone else.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] hibby50:
Good luck we're rooting for u lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] robbyoconnor:
Tech support agents are usually utterly useless.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
Glad im not the only one who has called samsung lol
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ssphaneuf:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] what do you think the likelihood of root being a possibility with a non dev sg5 using an image from the dev sg5? Just curios if maybe that would be possible.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kuronosan:
I'll be calling them tomorrow.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
No it won't help, I've previous explained somewhere in one of the s5 threads. Sorry don't know where and im not digging for it at dinner time.

At this point, Android and ODMs are really maturing their security game. People really need to start considering buying dev versions or compatible non carrier branded devices (doesnt apply to Verizon).
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ssphaneuf:
Word, just a thought thanks for the input.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thewebsiteisdown:
So now we just sit back and let them take the helm and obey their commands like they want us to? Didn't you mention the other day that you sit amongst these big wigs at meetings?

Do you like this whole lock them down now so we can monitor them easier and force feed them the applications that we want to sell for our friends businesses, approach?

I know we can turn them off...

I for one don't like being told what I can or cant do with a device that I buy with my money that I earn and pay taxes on. Yes I know some, people are stupid and will brick but as much money as they're raking in already from business and selling our search habits to companies plus the fact that I have to pay $100+ when my wife breaks her screen from the kids playing with it etc. and how little the community is they weren't bleeding money this goes deeper then that.

Plus, I think it's going against the android open source community vibe. It feels like they're ruining the community more and more as the walls close in.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
Huh, look I was giving fairly sensible advice, wasn't looking at having to explain why having a secure device is a good thing (I assume most people understand this).

The advice was to buy an unlocked/unlockable device if you want root. The advice is coming because these devices are getting harder to hack, you are going to have fewer exploitable bugs, and fewer people willing to put the time into exploit the remaining ones.

Yes I sat in as an independent security research at a Qualcomm summit, and the point of asking is what?

Do I support secure devices? @$%^ yes I do, I want a secure device. I don't want a customs agent taking my device and dumping it when I enter or leave a country, I don't want a game being able to get root easily and steal my data, I don't want to see cryptolocker like malware coming to the platform. I want to buy a device, and be able to safely assume my data is safe.

I really don't know what to say when people get upset that they purchased a secure device, or get upset when Google/an ODM patches a vulnerability. These are good things, in every possible light.

You were not told what you can or can't do, you were told that it is getting harder and a better route would be to buy an unlockable one. Every major OEM except LG sells unlocked/unlockable variants. The only valid excuse for buying a locked device when you really wanted an unlocked one I see is those unwilling to let go of carrier subsidies.

Security is not against open source, in any way.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] firejackson:
I'd gladly buy one if they were available if I could get one on Verizon I just bought my first phone off contract to keep unlimited and I wish it had been available the same time the normal one was
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
I mean, did you really think you were going to get information that easily? LOL

Plus, I'm not sure why you spoke to someone from Samsung when you should be speaking to someone from Verizon?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cyberace1985:
I just don't understand why you guys are bothering over chatting with tech agents..... chances are they don't even work for the company they're representing.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] tillithz:
for the same reason this thread is 13 pages long with the usable info that could fit into one sentence of one post. this entire thread should be deleted and a thread on the status of root should be created and locked until something constructive can be contributed. once again the ignorant masses are senseless when lumped together.

go ahead and flame I fell for the bait to lash out and post how ridiculous everyone sounds in this thread, even me for ranting.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cyberace1985:
I agree, you then get people fighting/bickering with the devs who are here possibly helping of they're own volition these kinds of threads are massive circlejerks.... people want to know whats going on but most of to almost none of them know whats being said
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] cr4ck3r4lif3:
Again, your barking up the wrong tree. Complain to Verizon, use a carrier that allows unlocked devices, or buy developer editions. It's that simple.

I'll add that I bought the S5 knowing that it would most likely be locked down permanently. It's not the end of the world and showed my support by participating in the bounty.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
What is wrong with people? Seriously.. This thread has gotten ridiculous...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Sadly this is to be expected anytime a bounty is involved. Money gets people of all sides rattled up.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] kprice8:
Patience is a Virtue Grasshoppa, it is not just for Doctors. I think we all need to exhibit this feeling as this phone is less than 1 month old and we are expecting so much of Devs who are working to get us something that has been made SO difficult by our Carriers. It's not their fault, but they are trying to do us a FAVOR... Calm yourselves people...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
Agreed. It took about a month for my S4 to get root, and looking at the difficulty in locked down on this device probably looking at 2-3 months. With a bounty like we have it's not like devs are going to take their time with this, so let's all keep calm and patiently and politely and respectfully wait.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] KaM1KaZ3:
Looks like they might have already found somthing only time will tell if they did an able to exploit it lets just wait an see
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RockyCJC:
Interesting. Could you share your source that they may have found something (if its a public source of course)?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Dennisg34:
It's in the Bounty thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ShotSkydiver:
https://twitter.com/djrbliss/status/463315428111310848
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] lilsalmon:
Hopefully someone is looking at this before Samsung starts 'a - patching'
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] RockyCJC:
Have a look at the bounty thread. Someone posted that the Kernel issue is not patched. Now we just have to hope it leads to an exploit that can give us root. That said, I am confident people are on it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
Hey all, I'm gonna wipe and reconfigure my build system when I get home from work and give one particular vuln/exploit a go. It's not the one mentioned in the twitter post, and if it doesn't work, I've at least got some info I'll post. Keep y'alls fingers crossed.

edit: Does anybody even have any confirmation that actual developers are working on? I know when the S3 was released and everybody was freaking out over how locked down it was, there was a whole thread labeled R&D (research and dev) with many devs chiming in.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Is this one of your own you may have discovered or a publicly available one?

Just curious because we may save you time testing one out there if we already tested it as not working.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
It's a public exploit as of April, but not one that's found on XDA. It's a linux kernel exploit not specific to android. I've read up on it and modified someone elses (also made public) C program to use our addresses. I just need to compile the C program for android, which is something I've not done in the past. So this will be a trial and error as I go tonight. It looks promising, but I also don't know if it's been patched in Samsung's source.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] open1your1eyes0:
Very interesting. We're looking forward to any updates. :)

FYI, Samsung source for the Verizon Galaxy S5 can be found here: http://opensource.samsung.com/reception/receptionSub.do?method=sub&sub=F&searchValue=g900v
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
I'm interested in knowing what vulnerability this is, can you share the CVE? or the exploit?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
Sorry it's actually from February so chances are, if it was even possible, it's patched. But unless someone else can confirm it is patched or won't work, I'm gonna give it a shot.

jcase, yep. http://www.exploit-db.com/exploits/31346/. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jcase:
This isn't for ARM
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] BigBot96:
Gotcha. Thanks for the heads up. I won't waste my time.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Exleh:
Anyone home? Is all hope lost?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] eragon5779:
As far as I know, devs are working behind closed doors for now. Don't know why but no Dev has really updated with their progress on the phone.

Sent from my white SM G900V on XDA Premium 4
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] jova33:
Well, if they're working for the community, they don't want Samsung/VZW to know what's up and any exploit will be quickly patched.

If they're working for money, companies will pay them for the exploit, and patch it.

Sent from your mom's smartphone