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[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
if it sits entirely on the battery, the coil will be towards one side, so your phone placement will lean to one side.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] madvj:
Does the phone still stay IP67 after adding the wireless pad?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] socalwrx:
Thank you for the Update!! Will be getting my s4 card tomorrow

This can't be determined without an x-ray, lol.. To be sure you would have to see the back seal 100% which is almost impossible. I wouldn't risk it
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Checking the courier I may get my 2 s5 receiver tmr, but i'm gonna get the sandisk S4 receiver during the next few day, just need to see if i'm free, i like the qualty of the sandisk.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] mikiemon:
IP67 will be a no go with the S4 receiver. If you look closely top left by the contacts, the receiver overlaps the area where the gasket makes contact. The Sandisk looks promising.

Mike
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] chillsen:
let me know about the sandisk and give me a link. i'll buy it and if you see that the gaskets close all the way, i'll put it in the water to test
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Just purchased the sandisk today, also received my 2 receiver that I ordered about 2 days ago.

will post more details later on.

Apparently the sandisk S4 didn't quite fit, the gap between the two studs was too small unlike the chinese one's, so I tried to file the gap bigger, and somehow one of the studs came off, lucky it was just the solder that broke off, so I just soldered it back on, it's not a excellent view from the photo, but looks ok with a naked eye.

Out of the package

My mod
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dpwhitty11:
How thick are those? Everyone is going to ask how those fit with the IP67.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
The chinese one is pretty thin, you can also trim down about 5mm from 3 sided to make it smaller, the sandisk one is slightly thicker, but the size is alot smaller, and material used is better.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dpwhitty11:
Do either use copper wire or are they both printed coils? The Chinese one looks printed but I can't tell on the sandisk. Are they stiff or can they flex?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
the chinese one are flexi coil, sandisk is thin PCB etched with copper, I will be getting some copper coil one's in a few weeks time.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Sublim3_Tilt:
I received mine yesterday. Its referenced in post 8 and 32. It adds a noticeable bulge to the back but seems to stay within the perimeters of the back seal. I wont risk dunking my phone to test but it seems pretty sealed to me.

I will say that it did worry me how hot the temp got while charging my battery from 30% to 60%. It had a high heat but I left it on over night and in the morning had no signs of heating so the trickle charge is fine.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dpwhitty11:
How hot did it get? Could you use an app to get the temperature the phone reads?

Also, do you plan on testing out the water resistance with them?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Daabeck:
Has anyone tried this charger card?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/7-Color-Uni...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item258ce209c0

It's cheaper than the itian one, and doesn't seem to interfere with IP67 because of it's size.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] jhuff83:
I saw that one today surfing ebay. That one does look promising. I still think I'm going to hold out for the official Samsung back though.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Marcenzeichen:
What a dump idea of changing the layout of the receiver...
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] chungdae:
^Well crap, I ordered this because of that video on youtube that shows it still retains its waterproofness. If they changed the design that negates the purpose.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] aeroxdefocu:
I'm tempted to send it back. Luckily I bought it with amazon. :confused::confused:
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
can you show the reverse side of the receiver.

thanks
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] GEARMAXX:
I just worry about the safely of these product.:rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] alias_neo:
Constant re-charging

Has anyone found a solution to the constant beep-recharge cycle that's happening with some?

I can't figure out if it's the phone, the charger or the receiver that's at fault, but every morning I wake up to it beeping (charge started) every few minutes, but I can't tell if it's been happening all night and just didn't wake me up.

I'm concerned it's going to cause problems, as well as the fact that it clearly should do this constantly anyway which indicates a fault somewhere.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] drwx:
my wife's phone is getting that, but i thought it was because of the smaller nokia charging plate that we have been trying to use. we are planning to buy plate with a larger charging surface. if there were more cases available, i'd probably just get her to get the official wireless backplate again since it did not have the problem on the same nokia charging plate.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Hamspiced:
The cause of the beeping is related to whichever receiver you end up purchasing.

The receiver is responsible for sending the signals to the charging pad. Some receivers are "smart" and know when to go into a powersave type mode and others are simply dumb receivers. Meaning when the phone is on a pad it will pull power regardless of battery MAHlevel. As a result as the phone disapates the pad will turn back to pull the juice.

I have found that some of the cheaper receivers i find on amazon (>10$) are pretty crappy and do this, however a better receiver sends the proper signals to the pad and do not have this issue.

As far as a redesign. I have the .05mm pad and ive removed the copper sheilding sticker. I have no issues with wireless charging while retaining waterproof. I have this receiver here : http://www.amazon.com/S5-SlimPWRcar...&ie=UTF8&qid=1405944041&sr=1-8&keywords=s5+qi

The buldge is minimal. and all cases fit. Here are my findings for people concerned with the camera. Stop being concerned with the camera gap.

The design currently has a small gap for the camera as is, the buldge placement is not ideal however the added force a case like an otterbox adds to the rear panel is more than enough to illeviate any concern with that buldge.

Mods i made to my receiver:

The connection point that connects the three contact points from the pad to the phone needs to be trimmed slightly on the left side. Also a piece of Shiny scotch tape (specifically shiny not the dull matt tape. should be placed over the connection point to push it onto the contacts of the phone. This is rather important because the design is to have the back case panel push the points into location. Shiney tape because it allows for a slightly better seal with the left side of the weatherstriping comes into contact with it. you can "test" this by placing this tape along the perimiter of the weatherstriping mark on the phone. place the cover and then remove it. The weatherstripping should leave a bit of a mark on the scotch tape where it made contact. You can apply a bit of soapy water around the weatherstripping to make the mark more prevalent however i advise against using a sharpie or a marker on the stripping as it can dry it out.

What a GREAT solution would be: For these manufactures' to introduce a supplimentary weatherstripping that is slightly larger to account for the bulkiness of the receiver that it is being used that can be placed next to the standard one.

Or samsung can just make this a standard.

ANOTHER thing that i would like... 2.1a receivers...

My S4 and S3 both rated at 2100ma when charging This 640-720ma is asinine for the technology that is available. Just my .02$
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] alias_neo:
Thanks for the thorough response. I had originally bought the non-slim PWRCard as the Slim was not yet available on Amazon UK, however it was too fat, and I had to get something else, ending up with the cheapo white ebay type, also from Amazon.

I'll go for a Slim asap and see if that solves the problem, thanks!
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
The problem is also caused by compatibility between transmitter and receiver.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] drwx:
for reference, i have the SlimPWR card and a nokia dt-900 charging plate...mine turns on and off all the time on it, so we've moved to just using a plug to charge it.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dannytill:
SlimPWRcard

Where is the IC chip in your card? I ordered the same one you did but it seems like they modified the design slightly.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dricacho:
It's where the red circle is.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Reading within the thread, people have stated that powerqi has two version, they altered the design, and the ic has been placed in a different location.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dannytill:
Gap under flash

I know others have mentioned the gap in the back cover but I'm curious how pronounced the gap on your back cover is considering your IC chip slightly lower than the redesign. Just kind of eyeballing your red circle my IC chip is just slightly higher on the battery than yours. Mine is noticeable but it has been stated that the seal here is good despite the gap.

Has anyone tested the water seal with the redesigned slim PWRcard?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] yoonus:
No beep with powerqi and DT-910

I got powerqi receiver directly from manufacturer in Aug 2014. See pictures attached

I use Nokia DT-910 Wireless Charging Stand with my S5.

I don't get constant beep with this combination
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dannytill:
how thick is this card?

I bought the slim PWRcard but I think I got the redesigned version. I was also looking at the card you bought. Does this card produce any noticeable bulge, specifically by the flash/heart rate sensor? The slim PWRcard has a gap in this area.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] yoonus:
Give me few days. I will try to put pictures with receiver and without.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] shanghei:
Just bought an s5, do these third party mess with the water resistance? Also which one is the go to 3rd party qi that retains nfc? When I had the s4 everyone went crazy over the fonesaleman one.

Thanks
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] alias_neo:
Yes, it absoutely does mess with water resistance. Please everybody heed this warning, I bought this type:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Atdoshop-Wi...17186505&sr=8-8&keywords=wireless+receiver+s5

(not the exact brand)

and it's extremely thin, but my S5 went for a swim and the seal was broken, all water damage indicators went red within a couple of seconds.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] ShinySide:
Why not just buy..... http://www.amazon.com/Samsung-Wirel...17207446&sr=8-2&keywords=wireless+charging+s5

Its OEM. Its built into the backing. And keeps the seal.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] 1454:
Because you can't use many cases I'm with it. I'm assuming thats the reason others don't like the factory one. I just don't understand why samsung doesnt include qi built in to begin with.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] gspears:
Because that is expensive!
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] C0derbear:
Less expensive than replacing a phone.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] drwx:
Because it severely limits which cases you can use because it makes the phone thicker.

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Stephen
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] droideris1:
i got the OEM samsung s5 wireless battery cover that you linked above, and ever since i put it on the phone it says 'check battery cover' on the screen. The seal doesn't seem too good on the top right and next to the headphone jack, and it definitely doesn't feel like it is still ip67... has this happened to anyone else? Maybe I got a bad one..
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] SSnova72:
Because it's only available in black or white
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] yoonus:
photos with powerqi card

Attached is the photos I promised. One is with the powerqi card installed and other without. You decide which one has the card ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] ldeveraux:
Maybe user error :p It's made/designed by Samsung so there's no reason it shouldn't work as well as the standard back. In my opinion, the standard back doesn't "feel" ip67 either, so how much worse could it be?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] wmunn:
The check battery cover message pops up on every phone running the standard at&t rom. It is just flashed onto the screen, no matter if the cover is on right, on wrong, or not on at all.

Now, that being said, the seal around the back cover that keeps the water out of the phone, only works when there is nothing interfering with the seal. ALL aftermarket Qi charger cards interfere with that seal, and WILL cause a water leak.

The factory charging back is designed to seal correctly, and wireless charge properly. When you are looking at the cost of the phone, $39 isn't much to pay for Qi charging if that is important to you, and there are some cases that will fit over the charging case.

Yes, it would be nice to have more choices, but at least there are some out there already.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] shanghei:
can you dunk underwater to see if it still water proof
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] yoonus:
Yes. After receiving $600 check in the mail.

On a serious note, if you are concerned about water resistance, you should get the Samsung OEM case.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Simon_89:
I played it safe and got the OEM Wireless charger and cover :)
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] deadmansink:
I've used the Qi $10 kit from Ebay. So far so good. Just have to place the phone just right on the charging pad; appears to be because of the the camera and speaker bump-outs.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
You may get some problems with chargers and car chargers as the receiver is placed towards one side of the phone.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] cweemin:
the samsung cover has 5 pins vs the 2 on the oem ones.. I wonder what's the other 3 pins for? NFC??
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
Finally received the Itian receivers today. Installed and tested charging and NFC, they work fine. I would say most cases should work, as I have my phone in an OtterBox Commuter. Won't know about heat until I run with it for a bit. They do not appear to interfere with IP67, as they are designed to fit within the areas of the gasket. That said, I don't plan on dunking my phone to test it out. I've never put a phone in water and won't start now. :p
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
The itian looks good, very thin, but I like the sandisk one that i'm using now, my two itian one's are just lying around.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
In reality, I'm only using them until the official wireless backs are available. As soon as they are, the Itian's are gone.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dpwhitty11:
Official backs should be just right around the corner, Mobilefun has them due in 2 days.

http://www.mobilefun.com/44078-official-samsung-galaxy-s5-wireless-charging-cover-white.htm
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
Yep. Just waiting on my back order notification from Samsung. I've got my discount code poised and ready for action.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dpwhitty11:
Same here. I've actually used two different emails for their backorder notification, just in case they send them out in waves.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] GrabMyWrist:
LOL, good idea!
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I've been using the chinese one on the S3, S4, note 2 and sandisk on the note 2 and S5, also had the chinese one on the note 3, and had a oem s view for less than a month, now traded my note 3 for the S5.

all been working ok.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] AdamLC:
Just got mine and tested it. It seems to work OK. But it does add a small bulge to the back case.

On the positive side the waterproofing should be OK as the card is within the protected area of the phone and it's very thin. So it doesn't break the seal.

I'll leave it overnight and see if the phone gets too hot etc. Although my nexus 4 used to get very hot and that was fine :)
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] ponts:
Which one did you get?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] AdamLC:
Can't believe I didn't mention which one lol!

Its the Chinese one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00JKCDP7E

I put my hand on my phone a few times last night and it didn't seem too hot. Also I woke up with 100% battery, so the trickle charging is working great too.

So far so good :good:
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
If you file this part down, you will reduce the bulge.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] AdamLC:
Yeah I did think that would help. What did you use to file it down?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I haven't done mine yet, i'm gonna get a second cover first from china on the 7th, then i'm gonna do it, just use a nail file, or use a craft knife to cut it.

Also do you know what that padding piece thingy is right next to it.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] AdamLC:
Just used a craft knife and it came off pretty easy. The case sits much better now. You can barely tell.

I did take a small bit out of the padding accidentally. It looks like a copper colour underneath. Not sure what it is?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
I think i know what it is, samsung put something metalic there to prevent people using a third party wireless receiver instead of their own brand one's, if thats is metalic then thats why it's shows the phone has more heat and the charging is less efficient.

I'm using the sandisk, and they have proven to be very good, but somehow I have a very good korean charger but the detection is not so good with this setup.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] AdamLC:
If that's the case I guess shaving it off would help?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
You can see that padding does not cover the NFC just at the bottom of the battery, it will cause the NFC to stop working if covered.

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I can't be certain, but it seem like it, I can't think of anything else.

You do notice it doesn't cover the NFC in thet battery.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] tdrussell:
Looking at it, i think it may just be an EMI sheild. It covers the top part of the battery, and then the blank area down the left side of the back chassis. I don't see it interfering with the tags designed for the S5.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
May be samsung just wants people to get the oem, which doesn't have it, whiles most third party receiver may get interference with this pad, thats why it's in a location the it will not cover NFC which is located at the bottom of the battery, otherwise the NFC will not work.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] AdamLC:
Just want to say I've been using my wireless card for a few days now and all is well. NFC is working well too :)
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Thomasba:
Just ordered these so will update once they've arrived.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00DQDE1K8/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00F3J2KJW/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] f308gt4:
Found an ebay seller in the US (California), so I ordered one.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Qi-Wireless...l_Phone_PDA_Chargers&var=&hash=item19ebf8cffb

Should have it in a few days...
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] dpwhitty11:
I bought 2 of these:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Qi-W...ard-Coil-Accept-Free-Shipping/1760647292.html

2 of these:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Qi-W...ing-Accessories-Free-Shipping/1665166011.html

and 1 of these:

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Qi-W...4-Nexus-5-Samsung-Iphone-With/1239410068.html
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] tangoboyz:
I was looking at the same one. Messenge the seller and he states will not interfere with water resistant.

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Where did you buy, which one?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Thomasba:
That's good to know then :)

I did notice after ordering that on the receiver it says it "may" interfere but I've never had a phone that's been water damaged and I didn't get the phone for that feature so, I'm not that fussed one way or the other. As long as it doesn't add any bulk to the back of the phone I'll be happy. :fingers-crossed:
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] tangoboyz:
So I have a overall question about wireless charging and using "3rd party" items. I have always used OEM chargers when it comes to my devices. I am always worried about battery drain and premature battery failure due to using 3rd party stuff. Now wireless charging to me sounds different? What are people's thoughts/comments/experiences around this? Do you notice a difference in battery life using 3rd party QI chargers, over all long term life of the battery, ect?? What are people's overall thoughts on QI charging vs a wire.

I have never used wireless before and if i choose to, this QI charging method will be the primary method, charing the phone while I sleep. So I want to have the best experience.

Thanks!!
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] tdrussell:
A Qi tag is electrically a pretty simple mechanism. It's a printed copper or wound copper coil and some logic circuitry to interface with the phone. I've never had an issue with the ebay Qi tags.

The charging circuitry in the phone is pretty smart. It won't let the phone charge if the input current is unstable, and i don't think it will allow power draw through the Qi pins (so the tag can't cause a phantom drain issue).

The best experience will arguably come from the OEM wireless back, but i'll gladly use a Qi tag until i can get my hands on an OEM back.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] tangoboyz:
How does the battery seem to last? Any difference between chagrin it via the wire?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] tdrussell:
Mine came today. I got this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/QI-Wireless.../141251794658?ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:1120

It works. I made some modifications.

I peeled one side off to reveal a copper coil, rather than printed design. This thickness is still negligible. The logic board at the top is thicker, and does add a slight bulge to the back. All in all, i pealed both sides off the tag and trimmed off those locating ridges on the battery cover.

I also clipped the corner of the contacts tab so that it wouldn't overlap the flat part of the frame where the seal sits, though the bulge in the cover is enough to give me pause about the watertight-ness, no surprise there though. Looking forward to getting an OEM wireless back..but this will do for now.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] lurch0101:
How slow is the charging compared to using the USB cable? How hot does it get? Would this work if I were to use a thin case? If it's working ok for you, I might order one.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] telveer:
I use this one - http://www.ebay.com/itm/390817116165. Works like a charm. the original back cover fits fine but there is a very slight bulge - not sure if it affects waterproofing.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] tdrussell:
I'm seeing 630ma, which is what I always get from Qi charging. It's definitely an overnight thing. This particular tag I'm finding gets warmer than other ones I've had, though not quite enough for me to be concerned about it. I think it would work through a thin case...probably depends more on the charging pad than the tag in the phone. Frankly I'd order a different brand than the one linked in my post.
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] Pinkmonst3r:
I peeled one side off to reveal a copper coil, rather than printed design. This thickness is still negligible. The logic board at the top is thicker, and does add a slight bulge to the back. All in all, i pealed both sides off the tag and trimmed off those locating ridges on the battery cover.

I also clipped the corner of the contacts tab so that it wouldn't overlap the flat part of the frame where the seal sits, though the bulge in the cover is enough to give me pause about the watertight-ness, no surprise there though. Looking forward to getting an OEM wireless back..but this will do for now.[/QUOTE]

I used the same one wihtout the mods, slight bulge on stock rear cover, and im using the Spigen Samsung Galaxy S5 Case Slim **NEW Release** [Ultra Fit] from amazon. Cant tell AT all once the case is on and works perfect. With that said anyone know how to remove Wireless charging info pop-up and notification sound?
[Galaxy S 5 Accessories] kms108:
Not sure if anyone is interested, yipin or yijieneng has just released there receiver, similar to the note 3, it has the contacts open on the reverse side for the s view cover.