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[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] punkkloser:
I re-locked,un-rooted,installed stock recovery,flashed the RUU, unlocked again,,,,,,and,,,, NOTHING. still doesnt work. Im sure at some point someone will figure it out and its probably something small thats overlooked as far as why, idk
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
The issue is that the current firewater doesn't work after you update to the latest OTA. They just need time to update firewater to support this new update.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Yeah. And I wish they'd hurry the F up. lol :)

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] midnightslide:
Well, I wouldn't hold my breath. beaups has informed me that there probably won't be an update to solve our problem. Looks like we're in the "whelp" category for now.

Screenshot of the info direct from the dev himself:

Now, perhaps it may change in the future, but from the chatter in the irc channel, it is looking like it will be from a different exploit rather than firewater. It's unfortunate - I was really looking forward to the HK sound on my M8.

Not going to worry too much, though. The LG G3 is right around the corner, and I will more than likely be grabbing myself 5.5 inches of QHD goodness. :cool:
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
I just wish this site (the video in particular) had said to do S-OFF BEFORE getting the update. Had I'd known it would've made any difference, I would've done it. Oh well. The sound is still fantastic so I'm fine with it. But if an update does come around, let me know.

http://theunlockr.com/2014/05/08/enable-harman-kardon-enhancements-htc-one-m8-video/
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] midnightslide:
That is the same exact site that I used as a guide, and I updated the second my phone came out of the box. Figured it was harmless; how were we to know, right?

I have to disagree with you on the sound part. For me, it is rather "tinny" and seems to clip and crackle at higher volumes, especially when calls are on speakerphone. I feel that HTC could have done much better with the levels, and done some serious testing to prevent clipping at max volume. I find myself turning the volume down 1-2 clicks from max, which makes the sound no better than the old M7 Beats audio. In fact, when you take the additional volume away (the only real benefit of the M8's audio vs the M7), I believe the older audio was much better and "fuller" sounding. I heard that the HK audio fixes most of those problems, so it would have been nice to hear it for myself. Oh well, not that big of an issue, but enough to be annoying at times.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Hey Slide,

Mine didn't update 'til like a month after I had it, but yeah, I still had no idea it would've mattered. I just read another post somewhere on here where some person who had 1.54 couldn't do it either, and THAT'S the build # it's supposed to work on. My update was a bit more recent and had build # 1.57.

Well the volume I was really speaking of was the music volume really. I use the full version of Poweramp, which I have tweaked using the "Rock" preset (and Tone "on" which affects the bass/treble dials, with Limit "off"). Also make sure if you use that app to turn off Direct Volume Control (see: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ht...amp-other-apps-extremely-distorted-sound.html) and the one right under it too (Bluetooth) in Settings; it made a HUGE difference for me regarding clipping/crackling/skipping while it played songs. To me it sounds fantastic for phone speakers though for music. On the phone I will agree that although the sound is pretty clear, the phone call volume quality AT TIMES can be tinny, but sometimes that's the fault of the person's phone you're talking to. My parents both have the Samsung Galaxy Light, which is a cheaper "starter" type phone, and with them it's always more tinny. I don't really recall having any clip or crackle issues though. I'll pay more attention to it, esp while on speakerphone.

I just heard that the HK does make the sound more clearer by more efficiently processing the sound data. That was from one review at least. They said it wasn't huge, but noticeable. Rooting my phone (the 1st part of that site's instructions) I WAS able to do after the update, so that's out of the way at least. So I shouldn't need to do anything that would require erasing all the data on my phone again, right?

I actually asked the author of that HK instruction site (and a contributor too in the comments) about my issue in the comments section of the S-OFF page, but he didn't respond. Neither did the contributor. What a hassle man. Thanks for nothin'! lol

If you hear anything, or find out about an alternative, let me know. I'll do the same.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Shanki2k8:
I got my M8 today morning and I was able to s-off without any problems. Good that I read this thread which made me aware of the fact that applying OTA would make firewater impossible to work.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Lucky you Shanki. lol

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] buby78:
i got mines rooted and unlocked but no s-off but i have H/K audio it came with ARHD_htc-one-m8_7.0 it made the crackle and mess up sound go away!!! i read that it wont work with s-on but it did on mine so anyone wanting H/K audio just install that rom...
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] x714x:
Isn't there a build date limit with the T-MOBILE m8? like anything made after a certain date can't get s-off at the moment? Or is that date in regards to the software?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] NICEGYPT:
No I was on insertCoin rom.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
Did you update your phone before being on that ROM, or were you on the stock 1.12 software?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] NICEGYPT:
I never had an official update. This Rom is based on international version.

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[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
And yours wasn't the Sprint HK Special Edition M8?

Well Buby, you rock! Because of your post, I decided to take a chance and go to the site I had previously looked at (http://theunlockr.com/2014/05/08/enable-harman-kardon-enhancements-htc-one-m8-video/), and try downloading the HK zip file WITHOUT doing S-OFF. When I went to the site it told me to go to under Section IV. (Flash the Harman/Kardon Enabler), they had 1 zip file for S-ON ppl, and 1 for S-OFF. I downloaded the one for S-ON (I followed all the instructions under that section, including doing a backup first), and flashed it......and.............IT WORKED!!!!!!!!!! I got HK now!!! F'ing amazing!!!

Thank you so much Buby for your post! And it was just my birthday the other day too! lol

Take care!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] buby78:
T-Mobile HTC one (m8)

Glad that you got it working it was one of the reasons i was trying to get s-off and was upset that i keep getting not buzzed keep trying message. I hope that they get it working for all devices soon. I wish i know that I couldn't do the update first before firewater.

I installed the ARHD rom without knowing it had H/K in it but i was glad it was and it works witch is the important part because i read that it wouldn't work if you are s-on but i guess i don't matter.

oh happy b-day
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Yeah thanks again! They should've made that more clear. When I went to the actual page and saw they had an S-ON version of the HK zip file, I was kind of shocked, cuz in the video and webpage they say you NEED to S-OFF first. For the S-ON version, they say "if you're feeling lucky, try this", so I guess they either had doubts it would work for everyone or else some ppl just couldn't get it to work with S-ON? Who knows.

Take Care,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] midnightslide:
It works!

I just took a chance, based on your ballsy move, and flashed the non-s-off zip file (after a backup). Looks like one of the benefits of the updated software (that broke firewater's ability for s-off on our devices) was the updated ADSP firmware, because it worked for me as well!

The sound isn't a as loud, which is good, and it does sound better overall. Now, I'm off to install xposed so I can get the tap to sleep working. :D
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Midnight,

Awesome! Glad to hear you got it too. All that time wasted when we could've had it like 2-3 weeks ago! lol

Yeah it's not AS loud, but the sound is definitely more full, more clear......... just noticeably BETTER overall. And you can always raise the volume too. lol I tried playing some random rock songs via my car speakers earlier (while driving around) with both Clari-Fi AND LiveStage on and off (each and together), and it just seems like even if the tracks are already high-quality (I pretty much only use 320 kbps mp3s), HK cleans up the sound even more and makes it sound even more balanced. I'm SUPER happy, and my birthday was just a couple days ago too. Talk about a great present! lol

What's xposed? I had tap to sleep on my LG G2. Please tell me more and post a link in your reply too. It would be nice to have that back (instead of JUST tap to wake lol), esp if it's free. lol

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] midnightslide:
Xposed is a framework that can do some really cool stuff. Just got the knock-off feature working, and it is extremely convenient!

From what I remember, I followed the guide below to install xposed, but I don't recall having to do anything past a basic installation and reboot. I didn't have to flash anything from recovery. Maybe that could cause problems later, but it really doesn't seem like it matters on my phone.

http://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-to/install-xposed-framework-your-htc-one-for-super-easy-customization-0151135/ //

I followed this guide for the knock-off feature, up to the custom kernel, because we already have tap-on, and it is a N5 kernel anyway. It worked great for me (even though it was meant for the Nexus 5):

http://nexus5.wonderhowto.com/how-to/get-all-lg-g2-knock-knock-features-your-nexus-5-for-faster-sleep-wake-0154032/

Now, I am REALLY loving this phone. If I could only fix this stupid Bluetooth issue, I wouldn't even be concerned about the LG G3 release. Lol
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
The first link appears to be incomplete has it just yielded a "page not found" message.

Does it work? Is it hard to get it?

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] midnightslide:
It's really easy to get. I just entered "xposed for HTC One M8" into Google and that site came up. There is a download link on the page.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
I gave up hope of being able to S-Off again.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Wait I forgot, did you get HK though at least? I didn't get S-OFF either, but I don't care now that I got HK (luckily).

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
HK doesn't really matter to me that much. The M8 speakers are great as they are. I wanted to convert my phone to a GPE. What I care most about is to be on stock android and get android updates sooner. For example, Android 4.4.3 came out today for the Nexus devices, and the GPE devices are going to get it like next week or in 2 weeks. Normal phones with skins (Samsung Galaxy, HTC One, Sony Xperia) are getting those updates in a few months or just skipping them all together.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Oh ok. Hmmm, interesting. I didn't know the IU/skin you had made any difference regarding updates. So there's no way at all to get GPE w/o doing a root AND S-OFF too??

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
To completely convert to a GPE, yes you need S-Off. But if you just want to flash the GPE rom, then S-Off isn't needed. The thing with the rom is that if you convert, you get the updates first. With the rom, you have to wait a few more days for the developer to upload the update zip, or the new Rom zip.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
I see. Interesting. So say I wanted to get the GPE for my M8 while in S-ON. How do I go about it? I was considering that earlier, but then decided to just focus on getting HK.

If I do the "ROM only" method, will I still get updates quicker than I would without it?

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] oRAirwolf:
The Sinless GPE ROM dev says he will have the 4.4.3 update up tonight. You can flash his ROM over the Sense ROM without doing a total conversion. I've been using it pretty much since it came out and it is absolutely fantastic. Stock Android is so lovely...
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Air,

That's very cool. Then I'll just download it sometime tomorrow then. Is there a site with instructions on how to get the newly updated ROM for my M8, including the ROM itself?

Thank You,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Does flashing this ROM wipe all my memory clean? I was just told that it does. If so, I prob won't do it. But sounds pretty cool though nonetheless.

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
That's why most of us use Titanium Backup when we're rooted. We can flash other roms, and restore just the apps, or apps, messages, call histories. Exc.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] FreydNot:
I don't suppose WiFi calling works using this method of GPE ROM on top of Sense firmware?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] oRAirwolf:
Negative. It is a carrier agnostic ROM and does not support Tmobile wifi calling. You gotta stick with Sense for that.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] vWvSTATICvWv:
What's up everyone. I just made the switch from Sprint...I couldn't take those data speeds anymore. Anyways, I'm rooted, unlocked bootloader and S-Off. I keep getting notified to update the phone. Is it ok to take this update or will I lose root and S-Off?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sdwyz74:
target reported max download size of 1830318080 bytes

error: cannot load ‘Unlock_code.bin’: Unknown error

thats the error code i get when i try to send the unlock token bin ??? please advise thanks
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] vWvSTATICvWv:
^^ That happened to me the first time. Just make sure when you're copying & pasting that you're highlighting the very ends of the arrows & don't go over in the slightest.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
As far as I know, if you already rooted, unlocked bootloader and did S-OFF, then you're good to go. The new update for MANY phones will not allow you to do the S-OFF (though rooting and unlocking bootloader are not an issue), but since you already did it, then you should be fine.

If you got the HTC One M8 and want the Harman/Kardon premium sound option on your non-Sprint phone (since you don't have Sprint anymore), you can still get it. Just google the following phrase and click on the FIRST one that comes up (theunlockr site):

How to Enable Harman / Kardon Enhancements on your HTC One M8 (Video)

Follow the instructions under Section IV AFTER downloading the new update (it won't work without that new update).

It worked for me with NO problems, so go for it! If you have any questions, lemme know.

Enjoy!!

P.S. If you use earphones/headphones, I'd recommend the SOHO option under LiveStage (just tap on LiveStage to see sub-menu after getting HK). It seems to offer the clearest sound. In the car it may be better to just use Clari-Fi only. Up to you.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] vWvSTATICvWv:
Have you taken the OTA with S-Off? Not that I'm doubting but I would be kind of p'd if I went through all of this, only to be brought back to square one and maybe not be able to achieve S-Off again. I'm surprised there isn't a dedicated thread discussing this.....

Thank you for the advice about the HK enhancements
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] sdwyz74:
i got it rooted and unlocked but when i try to s-off it say my device is offline in the cmd window ??? please advise

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when i try to send the abd reboot cmd it says error device offline ???
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
No. What happened with me is that the HK page I told you to visit, the video there in particular, said I NEEDED S-OFF in order to get HK (in addition to rooting, etc). So 2-3 weeks of my time was wasted because I couldn't get S-OFF and thought I'd never get HK until the program to obtain it (Firewater) updated itself. I found out that S-OFF wasn't possible for SOME HTC One M8 owners if they got the new OTA. But then I got lucky when someone said they were able to get the HK with S-ON. I tried it, and fortunately it worked, and now I got even BETTER sound than I already had (HK replaces BoomSound, which is fine by me).

I've read at least a few posts in this thread or similar threads where ppl said they got S-OFF before the OTA and made no mention of losing it after downloading the OTA, so I wouldn't worry about it. Eventually you have to get the OTA anyway. Since you already did it, then I say download the new OTA and just double-check afterwards.

You're welcome! The HK thing will only work if you have the M8. I think? lol

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Shanki2k8:
Hi, I was one of those lucky users who did not apply the OTA update as soon as I got the phone. I used Firewater to S-off and once it was done I nornally applied the OTA update(after flashing stock recovery) which I received. All that happened to me on applying the OTA update was I lost my root. It was quite simple to re-root my phone and I did not loose S-OFF on applying the update.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Thanks for sharing that Shanki! I'll let Static know too since he/she was the one asking.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Zeeking:
Any idea?

Hi.

I tried the firewater to get the S-Off but when it finishes, I get the following:

****** device patched by HTC, you are out of luck *********

Any idea how to overcome this problem?

Thanks.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] XxKINGxX2580:
Everyone else on this thread has the same problem. HTC patched S-Off for software version 1.57.xxx. So, you're out of luck.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Not really. You would need a phone that doesn't have the newest OTA update (which for me, having the HTC One M8, is Build # 1.57). It's the update that's causing the Firewater issue. Some ppl even said (I think) that the 2nd newest OTA update for my phone (1.54) doesn't ALWAYS take it 100% of the time either, but it usually does. Your options are:

1) Wait until Firewater releases an update that is compatible with the newest OTA update so that it can work to achieve S-OFF (no idea when that will be though)

2) Find another program that can do S-OFF (good luck lol)

3) Take your phone back to the store and exchange for another new one (or sell yours and buy one off eBay etc), do S-OFF BEFORE you update, and that should do the trick too (then you can root, update, etc)

You need to ask yourself how important is S-OFF? For what I was trying to do, which was to flash a certain enabler on my phone, I was told I needed S-OFF, but then I found out that I actually didn't in order for that enabler to work. So consider all these options and then go from there.

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Zeeking:
Thank you.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
You're welcome!

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] oRAirwolf:
If you can find somebody with a Java Card, you can go that route as well.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Never heard of that. Is that a hardware?

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] oRAirwolf:
As far as I know, it is a piece of hardware. I am not exactly sure how it works. All I know is that they cost a boatload of money and you generally have to pay somebody to do it for you unless you want to buy one for yourself.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Hmm ok. Thanks for explaining. If I ever actually NEED to do S-OFF on my phone then I'll keep it in mind.

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
Help with S-Off (HTC One M8 T-Mobile edition)

I thought everything was fine with my phone, but last night it kept resetting itself until I did a system restore.

I've pinpointed the problem to either being b/c of the rooting/unlocking of my phone, or the fact that I wasn't able to achieve S-OFF on it. I think it's MOST LIKELY the latter. But the Firewater developers have NO way of contacting them, so I have no idea when an update will be made available so that the HTC One M8s with the newer OTAs will work with Firewater too.

I have no access to that Java Card by HTC that does S-OFF but costs like $1000 lol, so if you guys have any new ideas, lemme know. I can still keep HK with S-ON, but at least one other thing I got (XPosed Framework) since that require rooting is what caused the issue, most likely again b/c it's not S-OFF.

So if ANYONE can reach Firewater or knows of a way to achieve S-OFF w/o using Firewater or that Java Card, let me know. Until then, fml. lol

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Behold_this:
This is a very entitled attitude and quite frankly it sucks. As a matter of fact, they're quite easy to get in contact with if you would bother to visit their IRC channel. Which they are in every day. Oh and btw they regularly help other users and work on new exploits. Your point of view is just childish and immature and I I feel bad that great developers like [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4519372]Fuses[/MENTION] have to read this kind of crap. One thing I can promise you is that these developers do not suck and they are far from stupid!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] saltyd69:
I'm using xposed with s-on with no problems. Could have been a specific module you were using?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
The thing is, I have no idea what an IRC channel is. What's the link to their IRC channel? I might be on xda but I am not a tech expert, though not a novice either. When I go to their Firewater page, there is no contact us option, and until now I've never had anyone who knew any way of reaching them. So while I admit I did go overboard, I wouldn't exactly say they're easy to reach either. I've asked other ppl before and no one had a clue of how to reach them.

You're right Behold. I was really frustrated when I wrote that, and still am. I thought all my issues were squared away after weeks of hassles, but it appears they're not. I have since removed any insulting language from my post. My apologies.

Thanks,

RockStar2005

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Maybe Salty. Who knows? If I do S-OFF and STILL have problems, I'll just have unroot my phone and go back to not having the best phone I should have. lol

If I do a factory reset, does that revert the phone back to S-ON if it was S-OFF? I know it doesn't affect rooting, but not sure about S-ON/S-OFF.

I'm glad you aren't having any issues. Consider yourself lucky. lol

Thanks,

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] saltyd69:
Other than not being able to get s-off... Yes considering myself lucky.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Behold_this:
Fair enough, but check this attached screenshot from the firewater website ;):

#firewater on

http://freenode.net/

OR

http://chat.andirc.net:9090/
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] RockStar2005:
lol ok fine........... except I don't have twitter, and "andirc" had no meaning to me until now.

In your initial reply however you happened to have a link to their profiles, which then gave me the option to privately e-mail them both, which I just did. (I tried to do this previously on xda but it wouldn't work. Not sure why. Gave me some msg saying I couldn't e-mail developers??)

Hopefully they can help. So, thanks! lol

RockStar2005
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Behold_this:
This has absolutely nothing to do with Twitter! #firewater is the IRC channel name. This stuff is really basic to android modding. Many developers use IRC to instantly communicate with users. Go to either of the links I provided, use #firewater for the channel name, create a user name for yourself, and chat away.

If you can't figure this simple stuff out, do you really need soff? Do you really even understand what it is and in what ways it differs from unlocking? Do you know that there is no NEED for soff whatsoever unless you want to flash unsigned firmware or firmware not designed for your specific device? There generally isn't much reason to do that and it's not recommended.