yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
That should be advantage, you have, like me, many devices added.

I never had problems because of that but as we already agreed - TS is something different...

...pile of unusable plastic and glass...

My first and last KS campaign...

I'll sell ts and buy LG, if nobody wants it, I'll give TS to my 2 years old son to play with it...

Then TS will fulfill its destiny and purpose :P
[Ornate TrueSmart] thedustroom:
The TS is actually quite impressive - mine's been in a boot loop for about 3 and a half hours now and it's still going strong!

Was letting me use adb but now it isn't so I'm waiting for the battery to die so I can try again.

Impressive battery life aside; it's getting quite hot so if it was winter I'd be able to keep my hands nice and warm with it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
That could be problem...

If TS drain battery to 0% you could get very expensive toy... (if you don't have external charger).

You have great video review on XDA (I think it's from Dees) - I saw that there.

TS was nice idea but everything else was just big mistake...

We were used to found experimental project so Omate could build TS2 (announced for September....I wonder which year :P.)

Anyway...

I'll buy LG, that's for sure...

I don't think I'll have problems with selling it, as far as I know there are only few watches (less then 5) that are coming to Croatia...
[Ornate TrueSmart] BD111:
Hi,

I just need some clarification. I have the 1/8 2100, can I patch the EnSec security yet?

I have done a lot of reading through these threads today and it seems it has yet to be tested.

Thanks

Baseband Version

MOLY.MR8.W1315.MD.WG.MP.V4,2013/08/14 18:16

Kernel Version

3.4.5

Omate Version

OUI 2.1

Custom Build Version

Omate_TrueSmart_20140328.182336_V2.0
[Ornate TrueSmart] pizzaman79:
I'm hoping you'll keep it then :)

I won't take the risk of testing your program before you tested it yourself, but after that, let me know if i can help
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Why are you unable to pull the battery?

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Has anyone actually used this Tool successfully yet?

I can't test it due to my previous mentioned connectivity problems but interested to know if anyone has used the Tool to Root and install Recovery.

Waiting for ClearD to get his watch.
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Talking about the Drivers--when I run the ADB Driver installer exe--it tells me that it is Android Device Omate Truesmart and gives it OK status--strange.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Yeop, still waiting on my watch. And leaving to get married in 2 days, so may not be able to get anything done until I get back from honeymoon. But everything at this point is still in alpha test stage obviously. When I have the device, I'll try to get it all working like it should (like it did for the motoactv root tool lol).

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[Ornate TrueSmart] aeron16:
that will be great! I was a huge fan of the Motoactv and your work on it.

so far the TS is proving to be an able replacement but there is still so much potential to unlock!
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
That's wrong mate...

We need testers and community...

I never released anything before I tested it but...

It's not cool to say, I'll wait until others test app and then will use it.

I know it's not cool to flash something and stuck into bootloop but you have to realize that isn't cool for me neither or anyone else...

But if we all choose that path whole XDA wouldn't have any sense...

I don't have anything for developing for TS or Z1 or any other device - why do you think it's OK to do all test on mine device and then release app for all for free....

XDA is community that helps...

That's why we have this great root tool...

If everyone said I won't test it until developer say it's 100% safe - we would never get something like this...

XDA mantra is - always make backup

and...yeah... developers or XDA can't and won't be held responsible for any damage on your device.
[Ornate TrueSmart] BD111:
I have no idea what you guys are talking about, framaroot, adb drivers, twrp, etc. etc.

What I do know is that I need a security patch on my TS, called EnSec. But it has yet to be tested on certain models? Am I understanding this right? And you need somebody to test it for you?

I will be happy to let you use my device (1/8 2100) for testing, but I need help.

Regards
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
Go Here and follow instructions from OP (first post)

I still don't have my watch but as I can see you can flash Loki's prepatched stock ROM on 1/8 2100 device.

Loki suggest to root (if you need root) TS using framaroot - you can see all that on that link I just post ...

Edit...

For some reasons link isn't working...

Try this one

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52618057

And go to first page
[Ornate TrueSmart] BD111:
OK, I have read that post before, but I was under the impression I did not need that. There are so many options of what I can do, I had no idea which I was supposed to do. I thought I just needed EnSec and all of these threads seemed to be for only the 512/4 models or the 1/8 1900 models :eek:

Anyway, I will just go ahead with the one you linked. Is this what you need testing? What do you need from me?

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Oh, and 1 more question. If Omate miraculously decide to fix the issues and release updates, can I go back to stock and get those updates?
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
I don't need anything mate, that's not my app...

I'll flash that ROM from Loki because that's stock, only patched and if Omate release update you'll be able to pick it up with OTA update.

But I really doubt we'll get anything from them...

If we get sources (I doubt that too) we could build custom ROM and we wouldn't have to wait those fuc**s...

Without drivers and all sources we can't do [almost] anything...
[Ornate TrueSmart] BD111:
OK, if you're sure you don't need anything I will do it now and just let you know how I get on.

Why won't they release they source? This is normal practice right? So why are they different?

Thanks again funky0308 :good:
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
That's something that is good practice in Linux society...

I don't know why they didn't or can they even be punished for that but that's very lame...

Linux and android should have opened source and we should all ignore manufacturers who won't play by the rules...

Omate is sh*t packaged in nice wrap but they won't last long...

They are cooperating with manufacturer who is banned in many EU countries because of their awful and for some sources spying software so we can expect same thing to happen to Omate...

Well....they surly deserved it ;)

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As I already said...my watch is still on custom as soon as I get I'll know his destiny...

If I found it's well manufactured, firm, strong and good I'll keep it and will try to adapt framework and whole system to be better for me...

If course I'll release everything here so if someone finds something for him/herself - great..

If we get good device we'll fix software (xda have great developers and many of them are mt friends who'll help if I would need)

So, only and if TS worth of time - we'll have fun here..

My specialtys are theming and editing.

I know how to change whole look of system, how to create watch faces, how to bypass or close security check/holes and patch that...hiw to modifie settings to and add more things to it...

Of course there are better devs then me but if we all join and work together we could actually like TS.

But once again - if I found TS just a pile of garbage - I'll sell it right away...

Don't want to lose time on something that won't survive one year...
[Ornate TrueSmart] BD111:
The deeper I delve into this whole thing, the more it appears to be either a monumental (but innocent) f*ck up on Omate's part or a pure scam from start to finish.

I am certainly leaning towards the latter, since they are blatantly refusing to aid a community who have dedicated their own time and effort into helping Omate's customers from the beginning. Not to mention that they don't seem to be making any efforts or offering any assurances, regarding future development, to the current TS users in general. It is almost like they have adopted a mindset of "just ignore it and eventually it will go away".

I want to thank all of the developers who have played any part in making this disaster more bearable for Omate's customers. You have done your best to maximize the potential and usability of the TS which in turn minimized the pain of the financial loss we occurred. For this I am truly thankful and I know many others are too. You are the type of people who make this world a better place to be in.

On another note, I cannot download the unified ROM (can't establish a connection to the server at 108.166.171.34) I will try again later.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Yes, use framaroot, boramir exploit. Motochopper doesn't work anymore, which is what's included in the tool. It needs an update and will require a little more work from the end user, but not too much.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
You said everything my friend.

That's the truth...unfortunately..
[Ornate TrueSmart] aeron16:
Hope you stay on!

My TS while can be further improved, isnt that such a bad device as its made out!

Sure.. it requires work at the outset to get it going (not end user/non dev friendly) but once done, it seems to be alright.

have been using it as a watchphone when i head out nearby, and leaving my main phone behind.

calls, sms and whatsapp all work fine, runkeeper works as well (with the GPS Fix Daniel posted).

will love to see the development get going (even though Omate and Umeox really should be more supportive).
[Ornate TrueSmart] lssong99:
I can confirmed this is not working for the TS on 4th list of 1/8/2100! I end up in boot loop and need a reflash of the device.....

I think this 4th list 1/8/2100 changes something and broke the whole thing...
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I'm still waiting on my own device to even test this. :(

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[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
You are not alone buddy... ;)

But day by day I'm colder and colder and really believe... whenit finally arrive - I'll sell it and move on for Gear on even Sony Smartwatch2...

Maybe will even wait for LG...

Firmware on TS is very bad, it destroys battery (0% battery problem) and all TS will be dead very fast if something isn't changed...
[Ornate TrueSmart] pizzaman79:
Yes Omate has a lot to fix. Do you know a quotable source about the battery being destroyed with every charge?
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
No...

I just talked to Loki and that's something that quite obvious.

It won't be literally destroyed but firmware and kernel have serious problems.

There's no right mechanism to stop total discharge of battery so, eventually, if Omate don't find solution, battery will be unusable...

Also, many users confirmed their battery are physically damaged.

Sorry but I don't have links, all that was my personal opinions or opinions from users on G+ and XDA.
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
That seems right as well. I'd read the same. I'm on my honeymoon right now, so maybe by the time we get back from the beach, my watch will have arrived...

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[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
Take your time....mate.

I thought TS will be fun

Honeymoon is way more funnier..., at least mine was... :P
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
My TS is blocked in start screen! :(
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
We really neew more info if you need help mate...

What did you do?

You flashed something?

Which version you have? (1900/2100, UI 1.0, 2.0, 2.1)?
[Ornate TrueSmart] 9100_it:
ok...

i have try to use the "Omate TrueSmart Root tool 1.2.1" => http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51808413&postcount=1

my device is 2100 UI 2.0 1GB Ram/8Gb Rom 2100 Mhz Eu

i have try: Root, Recovery and Patch

but now the device is stopped in the start logo omate! :(

i have wait 8 mounth and i have used 8 minutes!!!!! ahahahha LoL :(
[Ornate TrueSmart] LeighR:
I also have a 2100 1/8 v2 and I don't think the patch is compatible with our watches. You'll need to reflash the firmware - check that you get the same version
[Ornate TrueSmart] lssong99:
The root tools is not compatible with latest 4th list 1/8/2100.

Please see my post http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2758733

to see how to get back. I also have a system FW dump which works ONLY and exclusively for this version of TS there.
[Ornate TrueSmart] analogital:
Freezed at Boot Logo

Got Omate 2 days ago, tried to root but it freezes at Boot Logo,

Do you have any suggestion? the "[GUIDE] How to "UnBrick/Return to Stock" your Omate TrueSmart Watch x201" wont work :(
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I'm not yet sure. Did you check the post right before yours? Also, I've gotta wait until my watch comes to actually update this. I've still not received my kickstarter US dev edition watch yet.

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[Ornate TrueSmart] netdragon:
My TS stopped at logo screen

My TS stopped at Logo screen by "Omate TrueSmart Root tool 1.2.1"(Root, Recovery and Patch).

1-8 G 2100.

I am trying to fix it now. Do not try this(1-8 G 2100)!

It took me more than 3 hours.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Arnibarniboy:
BRICK!!!!

Hey Guys I have a BIG problem. I don't know wich version of the Simvallay Mobile Smart Whatch I have but i could root it on a very funny way.....

I used the Root tool V1.0 because I first don't saw that there was a v1.2.1....

The normal Rooting Progress don't work so i tried following:

The Superuser.apk file which was unpacked from the exe file I replaced it with the Framaroot-1.9.3.apk (This is the only way I could install the APK because i don't have a Micro SD Card)

So your Programm installed the Framaroot app instead off superuser and i rooted it successfully with it :D

So far so good but i wanted the TWRP recovery also. So I recognized the v1.2.1 and tried this.

I tried it with the root, recovery and patch option and it first seemed to work. Everything looked ok in the CMD window and two more apps were installed in the smart watch.

But after the reboot there was no recovery and it stuck at the Bootscreen :eek: :crying: :(

Please help me i don't know what to do now...

When there is a way to reflash an official firmware so please tell me how.

I used it only two days and don't want to throw it away... :crying:
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
This tool was literally only for the Omate TrueSmart version 1. I've removed all links, as I don't own the device any longer. You may be able to download and flash a rom back onto your device using the mtk tools, if you can locate them in this forum area. Due to the ridiculous amount of variants of this device, a single solid root tool is virtually impossible. That's why other developers have also migrated away from it. I left this here for nostalgia, but realize that was a mistake. Again, look for the mtk tools and they may help you flash a rom back to your device.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Arnibarniboy:
I'm sorry but how can I find out what version I exactly have? And I also know that there is the MTK Tool but I lost the ADB settings, so it can't connect correcty to it. In the left corner the color is blue :eek:

I have much experience in flashing my Galaxy S4 device but I have the Smartwhatch only since 3 days now and bricked it yesterday.

It would be great if anybody can help me with this problem cause I'm a "smartwach flash noob" :(

PS: The MTK Tool is also very complex in my opinion and I absolutely don't know how to flash a firmware if i even had the correct one for my device :crying:

PPS: I don't know maybe i could do something with the Factory Mode ( There is a Recovery mode and factory mode) but i can only see chinese symbols and reboot system :P
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
Wow. I have no idea, mine wasn't in Chinese. :(
[Ornate TrueSmart] haybill:
Hi @ ClearD,

Just a quick question- has development for the Omate Truesmart all but stopped?

I know that Lokifish, and it seems, yourself have ceased work-do you know of any devs still doing stuff?
[Ornate TrueSmart] ClearD:
I don't personally know any. With Omate putting out so many new devices so frequently too, it's hard to keep track. But due to the sheer number of variants of this one device alone, a single rom or root tool is virtually impossible to make that will work with everything.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Di4Sil:
Thank you
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Haggin:
I retired my neo hybrid case, and went with a old fashion bumber case, It really gets the job done for me but there is cons of having a bumber case then a full protection one
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chahk:
My Fire TV is part of a set-up consisting of itself, TV (duh), A/V Receiver, and a couple of other HDMI devices that go into the receiver. TV, A/V receiver and others are controlled via Infrared remotes, while Fire TV remote is Bluetooth, if I understand correctly. I'd like to consolidate all the different controls into one universal remote and was wondering if someone had any ideas on how to go about that.

I've previously owned a Logitech Harmony remote that worked well, but I really don't want to shell out $250+ for those.

I've confirmed that RF-type mini keyboards with a USB receiver work. Now I need to find a similar one with IR and learning functionality. I've been looking at Amazon and it looks like something like this might work.

If anyone has recommendations, I'd be very grateful.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Spelvin:
You can just use the Flirc IR to USB receiver. Search Amazon for FLIRC, its $30. Then use that with your current universal remote, if you have one.

I can't post link, too new, but here is the XBMC thread confirming its functionality.

ht tp://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=191109&pid=1674861
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chahk:
Thanks for the Flirc suggestion, I'll look into it. Unfortunately I don't own a universal remote any more. My old Logitech Harmony 880 died a few years ago, and I've been making do with a Sony Google TV remote (comes with a couple of IR blasters.)
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarvoke:
a lot of people seem to like the ortek/mce remote but it only has a mousepad-thingy and no kdb. then again spamazon has it for USD12.55, so that's almost worth getting just to have a spare remote.

the remote you linked, Chahk, seems quite useful (although who chose the button colors it is so ugly ;)

the keyboard/mouse side looks like the standard Rii type - I have one of the most basic Rii for my ouya, except in BT rather than RF. the touchpad is kinda sketchy and takes some finesse, but it works well enough. the keyboard works well enough.

my favorite is still the PS3 / BD remote. but it only has 2 IR modes (tv, and amp/receiver) and it sounds like you have 3-4 IR devices?

(and the IR modes are only of the "pick a number out of the hat" variety, not custom programmable or learning or anything.)

it works great with ouya bluetooth, but there are at least 2 problems in regard to firetv:

- either amazon has to expand BT settings to generic HID, or we will need root to edit some config files.

- it is a pinless device. for android up to 4.1.x there is a consistent workaround. but not for android 4.2 and higher. (but again editing config file would probably be enough)
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottsdca:
Is there an remote app from the market you can use to control the Fire TV?
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kociubin:
Do the "Home" and "Menu" buttons work with the Ortek remote?

I have a similar MCE remote (LINK) which mostly works but not these two buttons.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] themantler:
All the buttons show there work, including "Home" and "Back", however there is no button on the remote to bring up a context menu :(

google "fire tv tips" there is a key map that shows what buttons do what on a google tv forum
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scottsdca:
Remote/keyboard app

Is there a remote app from the market you can use to control the Fire TV?
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chahk:
Not an official one. Able Remote works well for Google TV, but requires a companion app to be installed on the TV. The developer will have to come up with a Fire TV specific version.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chahk:
Well, I went ahead and ordered this ugly monstrosity. It's coming from Singapore, so it'll be a few weeks before it get here.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chahk:
It's here, and it does a fine job at controlling the Fire TV. unfortunately it does a piss-poor job of controlling pretty much anything else. Contrary to the description, it has no "IR learning" functionality, but a simple list of codes instead. The list is quite limited, and only supports half of my devices. I'm done with cheap Chinese knock-offs, and will be ordering a Logitech Harmony remote instead.

[Update]:

Harmony Ultimate is here, and it controls everything I have except Fire TV. Aaaaarrrghhh! I'm ready to pull my hair out over here.

Last chance. I'm ordering one of those cheap USB IR receivers that people over at AVS Forums are saying work well with Fire TV, and teaching my Harmony the basic buttons (left, right, up, down, select, back, home.) If that doesn't work - all of it is going back to their respective manufacturers until they learn how to play nice with each other.

UPDATE 2:

Victory! After hooking up the IR receiver from the MCE remote to Fire TV, and teaching Harmony the basic keys, I can now control everything in my setup with a single remote. Of course the voice input from the Fire TV remote is missing, and since Harmony Ultimate has no keyboard, I'm stuck doing text entry letter-by-letter via the clunky mid-90's interface. It'll do for now, until I figure out a way to either bring QWERTY to Harmony, or get a USB hub for Fire TV so that I can use my RF micro-keyboard.

Now I need to do some wire management to take care of the spaghetti wiring from all these devices.

UPDATE 3:

Got a simple unpowered 4-port USB hub, plugged in both the IR receiver and an RF receiver, so now I can also use a micro-keyboard for doing text input. The living room is now wife-approved!
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] smithmal:
Here's another "All-In-One" universal remote option that will work for both standard IR devices and BT devices:

Blu-Link Universal Remote

This remotes can:

1. Act like a normal IR remote (i.e. it has a slew four digit codes to program the remote to work with your IR components)

2. Act like a BT remote (has a built in BT transmitter in it to work with BT devices such as gaming consoles, media boxes (Roku/Fire TV/Apple TV)

3. Has a learning functionality so that any button on your remote can be learned by the Blu-Link remote

(The user guide for the remote can be found here)

The best part is that the remote is only $27.

My only issue now is that I lose the speech recognition ability of the Fire TV remote, but I have yet to find any universal remote setup that can do that.

smithmal
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tarvoke:
I ended up with this BT/IR kbd+touchpad +8 IR keys, and it's not bad so far ... aside from being a little flimsy and the IR is not super-strong and the battery is only 250mah.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=59103175&postcount=8

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00M32PBXO/

but I still almost wish for having one of the singapore monstrosities, simply for how wonderfully unbelievably ugly it is.
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Aobeta:
That remote sounds interesting. Does it work well with Fire TV? Like all the basic fire tv buttons are available? And are you using bluetooth or IR with a usb receiver?
[Fire TV Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xaudiblex:
Did you actually manage to get the remote to show up? Every time I tried to pair it, nothing showed up. Also tried it on my nexus player without any luck...