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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
Updated Build on Dev. Ed. back from Samsung service

I apparently have an updated build: It is LRX21T.6900VOYU1BOA8.

and it says SEPF_SM-G900V_5.0_0002 dated 1/29/15

The original OTA was LRX21T.6900VVRU1BNLC

:p

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I'm kinda worried after having the OTA lock my bootloader and unroot the phone. My rooted SIII on 4.42 runs great. I want a rooted S5 and keep my stock bootloader.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
I tried your commands several times in terminal mode and the system replied:

/system/bin/sh su:not found

dd: /dev/block//mmcblk06p6: No such file or directory

I have made not changes to the phone since receiving it back, wanting to back up the bootloader image and phone prior to attempting root. What am I doing wrong?

Update: I think I know the answer. I need to install the Android SDK on my PC. Anything else?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Do you have supersu and Busybox?

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
Busybox and Super SU

Yes, I have not rooted the phone yet, so they don't seem to function.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
That's why it doesn't work. Gotta install a custom recovery And flash supersu

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
Would you suggest TWRP? Or is there another one that would be better? Thanks for your help. As you can tell I am a real noob!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Twrp is best in my opinion.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
OK, I'm gonna try the Odin method and install the latest version. (2.8.4.0) Does that seem right? Anything else I should know? :confused:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Flash it in odin, grab a supersu zip while you're at it too and flash it.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] afidel:
Thank you so much for your very detailed instructions! I've been updated for the last month and other than battery life it's been great. The battery issue was bugging me so I started looking into it, one of the biggest users of CPU time has been kswapd0 which normally should only kick in if you're below the free ram threashold plus whatever's in /proc/sys/vm/extra_free_kbytes which was set to 24300 (24MB) when I checked. Despite that kswapd0 was running with 340+MB of free ram and eating ~25% CPU time! Any clue what I can do to fix kswapd0 running when it shouldn't be?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
You did a great job on advising me! I now have root and it was painless. I now have to run those commands and backup/copy my bootloader! Thanks for the great help!

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I followed your excellent procedure and was able to create a boot.img! Thanks! That is positively AWESOME! I now have a boot.img.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Should be aboot.img

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
My misatake

I just checked. It is as you said, a 2 MEG aboot.img file. My mistake. Every thing worked perfectly and I thank you so much!:laugh:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Yeah, make sure you link it to [MENTION=766721]ryanbg[/MENTION], I think he was interested in it.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
Thanks again for all your help. I'll send a link to ryanbg when I figure out where to upload it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Dropbox would probably work for him. Just post here or pm him

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pir8dave:
That is just what I did, a PM with my Dropbox link. I told him you helped me and suggested it. Thank you again for all your help. My phone is running great and is rooted! Battery life is much better and all the bloatware is gone! I am going to back everything up in TB and enjoy. I so appreciate your assistance. :good:
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Davest010:
I followed these directions successfully back in early March, and everything has been working fine. This morning, I started getting a persistent notice for a Lollipop OTA update. Have they started updating Dev phones OTA, or is this something that will mess me up if I let it install?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Are you on Dev edition stock rom or a retail rom, if on retail don't take it. Dev edition rom, should be ok to take it (I'd think)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Davest010:
I followed the instructions exactly as given in the post I quoted, so I'm guessing I have the Dev version?

Has anyone else who followed these instructions gotten an OTA notice? Returning I've read says that the Dev phone wouldn't be getting any OTAs.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radionerd:
So Far They have never pushed an OTA to any VZW Developer Edition. I sure wouldn't want to be the first either. If you get notice of an OTA on a DevEd you risk locking the phone to retail. If aboot is over written, welcome to retail downgrade.

Everyone that has a Developer Edition phone should have a backup copy of aboot.mbn Here is a guide to make a aboot backup, just in case.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
I posted a OA8 stock restore for the DevEd if anyone wants it. It's in my Odin thread.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Davest010:
Thanks for the link!! I ran a backup of aboot, and attempted to install the Update that I received. When I clicked the Install button, it rebooted me to recovery (TWRP), so I tried installing the update file manually, but it failed.

So, my question now is - is there a way to stop my phone from downloading / trying to install OTA updates?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Accidently thanked instead of hit reply so there's a a free thanks lol. Should be able to do so in titanium backup by freezing "sdm" or something, or freezing the software update apps listed in there aswell.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radionerd:
evilryry is correct, in TBu search for SDM, and freeze the little bugger ;)

I have got to say this because someone did this on another DE device:

I don't recommend trying to run the OTA update on a DevEd device. It will lock your device to Retail. Even if you have a good copy of aboot.mbn, that should only be used if aboot is accidentally over written with retail. If a DevEd is locked to Retail, the backup of aboot will need modification and to be prepared to flash in Odin, there is risk involved.

Only flash updates that are safe for DevEd devices. Safe Tars have been modified, retail aboot is removed, and the Developer will state that it's safe for Developer Devices.

The aboot backup is like insurance. Just because I have insurance I'm not going to try to get into an accident ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zooandbio4me:
So... I still haven't had voice service in several months and now my SD slot doesn't work. Any chance I can get a retail bad esn s5 or something and flash my aboot to it?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Davest010:
Two things. One, I froze SDM, and I'm still getting a notification that says "Software update available". When I tap on it, nothing happens, though. Do you know if there's any way to get rid of that?

Also, does anyone know if there's a particular place to go for ROMs that are Dev Edition Friendly?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Freeze system update apks in list too. And pretty much any Verizon touchwiz rom is fine. Roms don't flash firmware (you skip that step it's only for retail s5) so you can pretty much use any. I'd just use ktoonsez kernel with whatever one you use. Also there are a couple aosp roms that support VZW dev edition. Cyanogen mod 12.1 and fusion really atm. I use cm 12.1 on mine and I'm quite happy with it. [MENTION=4325945]ktoonsez[/MENTION] builds the Verizon cm, here's a link to it. http://ktoonsez.jonathanjsimon.com/sgs5/cm-12.1/

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zooandbio4me:
Is there a direct link? Are we supposed to flash the full tar then Dev firmware??
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] :
You only have to flash the stock restore ones. They are DevEd safe and will not overwrite the bootloader.

OA8 Stock Restore

OC4 Stock Restore
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Davest010:
I tried flashing the ROM that you linked to here, and if failed. Have you flashed this successfully?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
What do you mean it failed

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Davest010:
I meant that I got a failure message in TWRP the first two times I tried flashing it. Oddly, it worked the third time with no changes made.

One last question, then I'll leave you alone - do you know if there's a thread here for this particular build? I've been searching, and I haven't found anything. Thanks!
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
It happens. And it's cyanogen mod 12.1 on the unified thread. The build isn't posted there tho, so not really any support on that forum. It's privately built by ktoonsez, he doesn't really share it publicly because there's not many users. If I ever have any questions or trouble I just pm him but I've never had any trouble. Builds are usually up to date, so the unified forum might be of some help.. Idk tho

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zooandbio4me:
Ok.. So my phone is broken, i've posted a couple times with no luck...

My sim and sd card slot doesn't work, my screen is cracked. So I contacted samsung for repair, theys said no matter what I'd get my bootloader locked and they have no option to reverse this process...

So I have two questions :

1.)If I get my bootloader locked by samsung, can i reflash with my aboot backup to unlock it?

2.) If I buy a retail s5, can I flash my aboot to it and toss my old phone, making my new one the dev edition??
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
1: only if you retain a Dev edition phone

2: absolutely not or else the entire community would have editions lol

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thuddome:
I just sent my S5 to Samsung and they flashed LP on it and unlocked the bootloader.

Aboot is phone specific.

I believe Samsung has changed their policy because there are multiple people in this thread that were unlocked by Sammy techs.

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For those who hadn't noticed, Xposed is now working on Samsung Lollipop - http://xdaforums.com/xposed/unofficial-xposed-samsung-lollipop-t3113463

I'm using it successfully on BOC4 - S6 - Modded Stock Deodexed ROM.

Enjoy and thank [MENTION=4898097]arter97[/MENTION]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] razzrmaxx:
Hello, I've been trying to flash a lollipop for a day now and for some reason it won't boot, I had 4.4.2 for the longest time on my device edition and decided to finally move on to lollipop, what's the best way to upgrade to the lollipop modem/radio and what kernel/rom did you flash to get to lollipop?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] evilryry:
Not mandatory to upgrade your modem/radio to get lollipop working. Just backup and wipe, flash desired lollipop rom and kernel (I recommend ktoonsez) remember don't flash any firmware for the retail phone version.

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[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rusticoar:
Yeah right. I contacted samsung and they said they will NOT unlock the bootloader. Where did you send your phone? How did you know to do it?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thuddome:
I just called the Samsung support number. I work in the business so I've been down this road many times over years. I talked to a tech and explained I needed them to update my phone and unlock the bootloader since Verizon nor Samsung will send OTA updates. When I packed the phone I put a sticky note on it saying it must be unlocked since it's a Dev model. It went to Dallas and was back in a few days with Lollipop and unlocked bootloader.

A few months back I escalated this using my company and moving up within Samsung. They understood the problem that we buy a dev phone and never have access to updates. Samsung already realized this problem that's why they waive the 30 day warranty on Dev phones most of the time. Technically they could reject us for any support. I went after them on this because I had sent my phone to them to get upgraded from 4.2 to 4.4 and they locked the bootloader. Last I had heard was they were going to get back to me (that was months ago) and then I saw in this thread where a couple of folks got their phones upgraded and unlocked bootloaders. So I took another try and it worked. Realize Verizon is who wants the bootloader locked, Samsung doesn't care. Knox is Samsung's way of securing the phone to meet many compliance standards required by Government agencies and companies (including mine). So with all this, there's a simple solution.

1.) Verizon and/or Samsung release a dev edition phone with only 30 day warranty.

2.) Verizon and/or Samsung provide updates either OTA or for download off dev community that will not lock the bootloader. (This would end the grief).

3.) Verizon releases a retail version with full support and warranty, locked BL, everything standard.

So you would have a choice, buy the dev phone, no support at all from Verizon or Samsung but have updates available.

A VP at Samsung told me he understood and they would work to remedy the situation.

I'm not holding my breathe, this has been an issue since the first Galaxy.

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Anyone can correct me if I'm wrong but if you stay out of Odin your bootloader will be fine. I might be wrong, someone might have written a package to flash firmware via zip but I haven't seen it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] rusticoar:
Thanks. How long did it take to get the phone back?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thuddome:
I think I sent it in on a Tuesday and had it back the next Monday. I have multiple phones so I just activated my S6 while the S5 was there. They emailed me a shipping label, 2 day air both there and back. Make sure to tell the phone tech that you need the ticket to have that you need the BL unlocked, it is a dev device, it came that way, you aren't asking for anything special. I did the sticky note just in case.

Being nice will get you a long way with the Sammy folks. ;)
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] razzrmaxx:
what 4.4.4 Custom rom do you guys recommend for the dev edition and what Kernel as well? im still debating if i should get on them lillipop roms or if i should stay on 4.4.4
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Davest010:
Haven't seen much traffic here recently...just wondering if anyone has any fresh suggestions for ROMs that are compatible with our Dev Edition phones. I've been running this one - http://ktoonsez.jonathanjsimon.com/sgs5/cm-12.1/ - but it doesn't recognize my SD card on reboot, and I have to mess around with settings to get a data connection back after reboot, and it's finally getting on my nerves.

What ROMs are you running?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] timeToy:
Stock-ish OE1 ROM with some manual tweaks
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thuddome:
Using the MOAR ROM, got xposed loaded on it, works great.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pudnik:
So joderme....So....if I go and spend lots of money for a developer edition of the phone I want, that I can easily develop on and root and flash ROMS to, then I get a phone where I have to update the ROM manually. And that deletes any tweaks I might have made.

But if I stick with the phone I have - the SM-900V consumer edition - I get incremental updates, but can't develop things like daemons, system utilities, etc because the phone is so locked down. Is all that correct? Am I completely stuck unless I go work for a carrier? thank you thank yoiu thank you for your reply
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
Considering you quoted a post from over a year ago, and the member you quoted hasn't posted in a month, I will help out and answer you. Everything you wrote in your post is correct. If you spend the money on the dev edition you can develop on it and flash ROMs, but you will never get an official update to the OS. If you stick with the retail version, you will get whatever OS updates Verizon decides to release, but you will likely never be able to root, develop, or flash ROMs on it.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pudnik:
THANK YOU landshark68, your opinion was appreciated. Now, a follow up question, if you don't mind: I have heard that the retail versions of Verizon's Samsung phones have a signed bootloader image, so their bootloader can't be bypassed. The only way to root this phone is to wait until an exploit is found for Android 5 - and even then, Android 6 is coming out. Correct? Thanx very much for your reply as I am seriously thinking of abandoning Android development precisely because of this issue.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] landshark68:
You are correct again. Not sure if the Verizon Galaxy S5 will ever get 6.0. Right now the bootloader on the retail version is locked down tighter than a vestal virgin's...........well you know what.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
Yeah, you heard that because I and everyone else told you that. Come on man, this is simple stuff that you could have searched for instead of adding the same question 3 times.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] pudnik:
OK, expert - apparently you seem to have many, many years or writing unix system code under your belt, and have written many mobile applications that execute privileged code. How do YOU test and debug privileged code on a geniune LTE device? Or maybe your a carrier or Google employee? hmmm? If debugging and testing complex Android system code that must execute with elevated permissions, such as debugging and testing a daemon or a web service for a flex app, is sooo simple for you, show me an example of what you write, debug, and test every day as a working pro. I was a programmer/analyst at Boeing for *over 15 years*, and for a year and a half I maintained an app with well over 40 forms, 35,000 lines of code that was critical to the supply chain of the 777 final assembly line...and here's the code: http://www.deckerd26354.net/projects/AboutMeLocal/Root.htm

;)

[by the way, if the admins of this site jump all over me, kick me and permanently ban me from this site because 'I was mean to this guy', well, that's like shooting Michael Brown in the back again because he was mean to Darren Wilson! >:( ]
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Spartan117H3:
I don't understand your response. All he said was to use the search button, because the question has been asked repeatedly. If you search for the word bootloader, you get 4 pages of results. You worked over 15 years as a programmer, yet you don't know how to search for stuff? Programmers read man pages all the time AFAIK when learning, and documentation for the language they code in.

Since you're apparently new to forums, it's proper forum etiquette to search/read before posting, and you shouldn't pick fights with other members. Implying that the mods might consider banning you for whatever reason already shows that you realize what you're doing has some fault in it. So why do it? Nobody's going to ban you for your rant, but check your attitude.

As a side note, the internet is not private. So making your username as your own name, as well as posting stuff about you is not a very bright idea.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ldeveraux:
He already admitted to making up his backstory, now he's back using it again. Done with him on my end...
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] ryanbg:
Hey guys, I'm doing some research on the bootloader. Could someone PM me, I need a couple pieces of information from a Developer device. You're time is much appreciated.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dogunter:
Has anyone found a Marshmallow-based ROM for the S5 Verizon Dev Edition yet?

Thanks.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dr-exmedic:
I'd just be ecstatic to get a Lollipop working on mine. :(

I've tried a number of ROMs and kept getting errors, mostly "this update requires KLTEVZW - you have a KLTE." (Except for the actual OTA, which bricked my phone.) Which is weird, because I have a Verizon Dev. The only thing I could get to work was CM 12.1 generic version--at which point I had no service and the modems I downloaded wouldn't flash properly.

Anybody think this Flashfire method might work? I keep worrying that it's going to mess with my bootloader, since Step 7 is flash a bootloader via Odin....

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-galaxy-s5/general/how-to-update-to-g900voe1-5-0-keeproot-t3149784
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Zooandbio4me:
I never had a problem.. You used the Odin rescue package, yeah?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] darklavalizard:
I'm in the same boat. Everytime I try and flash as KLTEVZW ROM through TWRP I get a "can't update because this is a KLTE device" message. Of course if I then flash a KLTE ROM, I have to manually set the APN and even then only LTE works, I still can't send SMS/MMS. It's to the point, where right now I'm just running the stock, rooted 4.4.4 ROM :(
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dr-exmedic:
Odin rescue is indeed how I unbricked.

Glad to know I'm not the only one. I almost wonder if there was a batch that was somehow different from the rest? Coded wrong somewhere in the firmware, maybe?
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] darklavalizard:
I think our phones are literally unlocked for anything, they just so happen to have a Verizon backplate...

I read somewhere you could unzip the ROM you want to flash, and program some line of text to say whatever you wanted to TWRP would flash it. As in, rename the ROM identity from KLTEVZW to KLTE.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] dr-exmedic:
Ooh, now I need to wait for my day off to do all that searching. I don't imagine it's going to be my first result.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] darklavalizard:
Check out these threads:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2307284 post #5

https://kalitutorials.wordpress.com/2015/06/19/solve-error-executing-updater-binary-in-zip/

Make sure to perform a nandroid and backup that file to something outside your microSD card before trying any of those flashing tricks. I plan on trying some over the weekend here.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] radionerd:
Don't retail your DevEd

My Wife's DevEd S5 was prompting her to delete files to make room for a large OTA update this morning.

I then immediately froze "System Updates 1.0" in Titanium Backup, I thought I had that frozen already.

If it had successfully updated the system her bootloader would have been locked to retail. The update is OK3

it's another 5.0, and has aboot.mbn and SBL1 "most likely efuse2" in it. If flashed to a DevEd, No way to restore your DevEd backup of aboot.

Hopefully someone will make a safe DevEd flash.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] thuddome:
You might try sending it to Dallas, they upgraded mine and left the bootloader unlocked. Do it at your own risk, I know some folks had issues.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] Scott:
All Snap 800's have that format. Not just Samsung.
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] claytonjn:
I'm thinking about selling my Developer Edition S4 and buying the Developer Edition S5. I'd like to wait until I know for sure that I'll be able to root it when I get it. Does anyone know if the TWRP build for the S5 will work on the

Verizon

S5? On the TWRP website it's listed as the general klte rather than as carrier specific builds (ie kltevzw) like with the S4.

http://teamw.in/twrp_view_all_devices
[Verizon Galaxy S 5 General] firejackson:
Alright so this one sounds like not an option so I have less then a month on my contract I can still return my current s5 how easy would it be to switch to sprint buying a phone full price would they still make me sign a contract sorry to go a little off topic I just want aokp for the s5