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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] infinitylook:
How about water proofing? do you still use it as waterproof phone?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jonfensu:
Hi. I want to share my experience. I bought a back cover in AliExp. Of course it's not original: the camera lenses is just a plastic with the camera ring painted (I am going to use the one that comes with the phone), it cost 4.7usd. BUT, for my surprise it's made of GLASS! The best part is that it comes with the Sony and Xperia logos like the original!!!

The original camera lens fits fine and it protudes over back cover, so it must solve the flash light bleed (seems like the back cover is a bit thinner than the original one).

So If you wanna a cover with the same logos of the original but made of GLASS, you could buy this one. Remember that you should replace the camera lens/protector .

Otherwise you could buy the Japanese version without Sony logo

Pd. The seller is Red First Ship
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
link for the product please
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jonfensu:
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32250448633.html
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
Do you think its scratchproof? share your thoughts after some weeks of usage =)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jonfensu:
I am quite stupid ?. I broke it. Accidentally I blended it. Indeed it's made of glass. I will order one right Now... I will recommend you buy a camera lens with waterproof adhesive if you're going to buy this back cover

It's scratch proof and doesn't come with anti shatter film

I put it in a back frame that I had here. The adhesive is strong. But I Am not sure about the adhesive in top of the camera area because the camera lens that comes with the custom cover was a bit larger (seems like it was for z1)and the adhesive was installed over that camera lens. I removed successfully that piece of plastic under adhesive without damage it but of course it got a bit weaker.

Anyway. If you are going to buy this back cover is a MUST replace the camera lens or use the Original one (if you are going to use the Original one, jus must find a way to ensure the waterproof, doing this I broke the cover so be careful ). Otherwise the flash light bleed will be worst

As you can see in the picture. It's just a small pice of acrylic painted
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
Great reply. I wont buy a camera lens, i will use the original. My phone is not water proof. the first time i took it on the swimming pool it almost died.

So you're pretty shure its scratchoproof? since its broken, can you scratch it a little with a key for example to be sure ? :D

Did you remove the original back with the hair dryer mode or what?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Darkimmortal:
Why not just buy a proper OEM back? They aren't that hard to find on ebay

Though most are old stock at this point and will need a new adhesive strip to stay on properly
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
Isnt the OEM back cover made of plastic without scratchproof? i would avoid this. The japan version works for me since is glass, but i like the xperia/sony logo behind. =)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Darkimmortal:
Ah I didn't know people were interested in the actual Z1C back cover. IMO the feeling of a glass back trumps any logos
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jonfensu:
Yeah.. It's scratch proof. I tested it with a pin/needle, keys and a knife and there is not scratches. It's smashed so I did everything, don't worry. About stick the camera lens, you could use a double side 3M tape....

The quality of the back cover is very good except the camera lens . I would say that is better than the original. The paint and cuts of the back are smooth and equal. The logos are clear like the original but more visible specially the Xperia, G lenses and NFC logo. The Adhesive is strong. Is practically imposible remove it without heat it up first.

Go for it. I bought other yesterday

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The good thing of this cover is that it's made of glass like the Japanese and come with the Sony/Xperia/NFC logos like the original. I choose this after a lot research and requesting LIVE photos , belive me: is very hard to find an OEM version.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
Jonfensu, did you remove tha original back cover with a heating gun? was it easy to change/install the cover?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jonfensu:
I used a hair dryer and a guitar pick to rise the back cover. You could search the guide from WitRigs of How to change the back cover. It's easy, just do it with patience
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
Cool. Thanks , i just bought one... i was getting sick from buying ASF for the back all the time.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Oreltub:
I replaced both back frame and cover, but still there's bleeding..

Any idea why?

Sent from my D5503
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] BlackArtsInc:
Using a clear glass protector on the back (ie on top of the phone's plastic one) fixes the flash bleed or not?

Not sent by me.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
In theory it wont fix it.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jonfensu:
Is there a metal ring in the camera lens or its just painted?

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Oreltub:
I think it's metal.. I checked with a magnet

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] luka2858:
Can it be glued on top of the original back? So that we dont have to remove it?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] valgusk:
I tried it, and I really really do not advice you to do the same. Firstly I bought it from ebay and it turned out to be fake. Now I can see that there is no real OEM on ebay at all. Couldn't recognize it until started applying, which happened after removing the original back. It was awul and did not fit at all, could not even attach it. Then I went to witrigs for the original Z1F back, but there is only the pink one left.

Ok, i can live with that, now I have a pink cover. But! It detached after 3 days. Some internals seem to bump out and push the cover, and because it is made of glass, it does not bend, it unglues. Also the glue probably does not attach itsef so good if you do not remove old glue/fats from the case, which I probably did not manage to do. So please, do stick to the built in cover unless it is damaged, it is not worth your waterproofing.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aikon96:
Hey there,

my battery went old, so I had to replace it. By doing that, I also ordered a new Backcover to get the led bleed fixed. The strange thing: My original camera lens won't fit with the new backcover. So I had to order also new camera lens, for my Z1 compact. The thing is now: The autofocus of my camera doesn't work anymore, so I think I didn't place the lens correctly.

Could someone please send me a pic, to get to know, how to put the lens correctly in?

I already tried all possible positions, but no luck.

Thanks in advance!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] profyler:
http://m.aliexpress.com/item/32250448633.html

dont by this one. it is bad. flash bleed all over (cant be fixed since its already glued). led hole not centralized. just bad. avoid it.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
Excellent post, thanks for sharing. For the sake of 3 quid I've no idea why Sony didn't do this out the box.

How easy is it to get a perfect fit? Do you have to do anything to the sticky tape on application of the new back, e.g heat to stick?

I take it the Z1F is also waterproof, like the Z1c is?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ggmm206:
yes,i did heat up the tape a little bit for stronger bond.but i think i will work just fine if you apply it directly.and z1F is the japan version of z1c.is the same except the nfc chip is diffrernt,also the z1f have a glass back.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Venekor:
I ordered one, I wont put it on but it is just nice to have lol.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] SirRobin78:
Great! Thank you!

Is the SO-02F printed on the back side as shown on website?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kind3r:
Yes, see first post
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Walter_White:
I would assume they were experiencing supply problems and still wanted to get the thing out to international markets ASAP.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
If there is difference in NFC between the models, will my NFC work with this different backplate?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
ok. ill try, thanks
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] fade2black101:
Great idea

Will need to try this if I get this phone.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ggmm206:
the back don't have any nfc components on it so i will work
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
Can you also post some picture with the aluminum frame too?:p

The original plastic back plate got some gap with the frame after one or two month usage
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] darkchocholate:
niceeeeee..! can u share a sample outdoor night pic with flash ? low light condition of course... thank you
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Alie360:
Found a store http://www.witrigs.com/oem-back-cover-for-sony-xperia-z1-f-so-02f-black
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] thermalboyz:
already posted on Page 1

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51754452&postcount=4
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] theprince1991:
I have just ordered this from Witrigs and I'll report back how it was to fit it and what it feels like etc etc.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
I failed...

I remove the wrong place, my first attempt is remove the plastic frame which is wrong and broke the plastic frame.

Here is the picture

The left is original plastic back, the right is the Japanese version:

The water proof design is near the same:

Unlike the plastic one, you can't blend the plate:

Detail look of the adhesive:

A little bit broken of middle plastic frame:

Where is the water intrusion test paper?

Located under the micro sd and SIM tray

Here is the whole look:

You can see there is O-ring around the secondary mic, which is also broken:

O-ring around the Speaker/Mic:

Waiting the replacement adhesive for middle plastic frame, I don't think my phone is water proof again(some O-ring broken), but splash proof should be ok:(
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
[MENTION=822174]rickywk[/MENTION]

do you supposed to remove the side plastic frame just to replace the back cover ?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] brocnical:
These guys applied heat and then used a suction cup:

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Same thing for the Z1:

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
Stupid me, I can't remember why my first attempt is remove the plastic frame instead of just replace back cover.

Some of the user complain the plastic frame tightness, I thinks it's design flaw, that's why Xperia Z2 change to new frame design.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
Some updae...

Adhesive just arrive, so spent few minutes to stick on the plastic frame, and also the glass cover

The left is the adhesive for the middle plastic frame

And here is the finish product, black glass cover with yellow machine
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
Looking nice....Still waiting my black back cover to arrive and can't wait to install it to my white Z1c
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] bigdfmartin:
glass back

Very informative post, especially with the videos. I have glass coming for mine, also. Does the glass come with all of the necessary glue/adhesives/tools? Is a hair dryer adequate to soften the glue?

dave
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] bigxie:
I purchased both a white and black back cover for my white model and eventually decided on installing the white one. I'd be interested to see how the black looks on the white model, so please do post some photos when you swap it out!

I didn't even have a hair dryer available when I installed mine, but it was extremely simple. I actually just heated up the back cover by holding my phone over my stove (about 3 feet above it) until the top of the back was pretty warm (by the camera). Then, I pryed it open with my fingernail, worked around the edges and removed it.

The glass comes with the adhesive covered with some plastic protector. I attached a suction cup (provided with the glass) to outer side, peeled off the protector from the glue, and placed the cover in using the suction cup. Apply pressure around the edges firmly to ensure a good adhesion.

The whole process took about 5 minutes.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] enzorator:
And you think you keep the waterproofing with this ?

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] laoyang945:
Nice try! but how do you fix the flash bleed problem? just by replacing the back cover?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] bigxie:
I'm not sure how to verify if the adhesive is the same as the original on the plastic back, but it works well and the glass back is stuck on there tight. I've yet to submerge my phone since replacing the back, but I have rinsed it off several times without issue.

Yes, the nature of the flash bleed issue is that the plastic cover allows for some light from the flash to reflect internally within the plastic region and then leak out right next to the sensor. The glass back does not have this issue.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] enzorator:
ok cool, so !

have you got a link to buy this glass back ?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] idimitro:
Hi guys, has anyone noticed changes in the battery life after replacing the back cover? I am concerned because the heating method we are using are quite inaccurate - hear drier or stove. As far as I know the lithium batteries doesn't like being heated hence the question.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] thermalboyz:
Search 1st page.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
I'll do that when I have it and installed it....few days ago it left from singapore so it'll take some time :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] slannmage:
I ordered one to the UK through epacket, it came in 4 days, really well packaged and I put it on and it fixed the issue for me!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
I received the back cover today. it was actually easy to take the old one off using a hair drier and a suction cup from my gps :)

After i took the old one off i carefully wipe the edges in the inside part with isopropyl alcohol using a micro fiber cloth , just to make sure no residue from the old glue. then after i put the new one in i heat it up just a little bit and applied a little bit of pressure at the back till it gone cold or normal room temp.

I'll let it settle for now and keep my mobile off then tonight i'll test it under water and the flash bleed.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jonsmith709:
Hi

could you post a link to where you got it from. Cheers:good:;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] PAVNEET101:
Same here can you please share the link ?? Thank you
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kind3r:
I got mine from here http://www.witrigs.com/oem-back-cover-for-sony-xperia-z1-f-so-02f-black.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aryayush:
Placed an order today. The shipping estimate is 20-40 days. That's quite a wait.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kiki-utena:
Shipping times

There are quicker shipping options. To my country the 10 - 20 day delivery option was almost the same price as the 20 - 40 day option.

One person reported a 4 day delivery time.

I ordered one a week ago and as of a day ago it still hadn't left processing facilities in China, so it sounds like they can be very quick or very slow.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] bilboa1:
also ordered from witrigs with epacket to USA, says 10-20 days... lets see.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
Mine arrived today and I'll be installing it tonight....can't wait.....
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
Ok, so here it is, the "Black & White" or "Which Side is the Screen?" edition of the Z1c.

Easy replacement. Heated the backside with a hairdryer about 1 min and then started prying the cover off. Once it was off, I cleaned the frame with ink cartridge cleaning solution and then replaced with the black glass cover. The original adhesive came off with the cover and the new was preinstalled to the new cover that I ordered from witrigs.com. Here's a couple pics. And confirmed...no more flash bleed.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
My glass back has arrived but I haven't yet got the courage to do it. It'll knacker my warranty!

Question though: when applying the new back cover, are there any plastic/metal guides ensuring you get a square fit? I've seen no horror stories of people putting theirs on squint, which means there are many steady handed people out there!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
its a perfect fit no gaps on all sides
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
Yea the fit is pretty much "you can't do it wrong" so in other words it sinks INTO the frame so....
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kiki-utena:
So it took about a fortnight between placing order and receiving it?

What shipping option did you pick?

If you don't mind what country was it shipped too?

Thanks for the pic's of the custom panda edition Z1 compact. I was initially going to do this too but just ordered the white back in the end.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
No, it took about 23 days to receive to Finland with that standard shipping option (Singapore post). It took a couple of days for them to handle the order before it left there.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] xxtraloud:
pardon the naivety

why removing the back cover cancels warranty? I don't think sony would be even able to tell the difference if you got the same color.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
Well the Japanese back cover has different markings
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rick23ro:
You can put back the original panel when sending to warranty
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] butchoc:
What glue did you use in installing the glass back cover?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] liuteikwooi:
Does the witrigs comes with adhesive sticker for the glass back?and do i need to use a glue gun for assembling it.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
it comes with pre installed double sided tape (3M)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] butchoc:
Does it affect the waterproof capability of the phone after u have installed it?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
i had tested mine and it all went good.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Daniele728:
You bought it on WITRIGS? it will come with SONY and XPERIA logo or no logo at all?

Thank you ;) :good:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
yes i got it from witrigs. and it got the xperia logo.

the Japanese version comes with "xperia" logo which is made of glass and the global version comes with "sony" logo which is made of plastic

http://www.witrigs.com/oem-back-cover-for-sony-xperia-z1-f-so-02f-white
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Daniele728:
Thanks m8 :victory::good:

Just placed order :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paulkhim:
:good:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Axospirit:
replace the back cover

is it so difficult replace the plastic cover with a glass one? somebody can write an guide step to step? thank you
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kuminauha:
Just look instructions in youtube on how to dismantle Z1, it's the same thing with Z1c.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] glennza:
I didn't have a heat gun or hair dryer so I filled a hot water bottle with boiling water and sat the phone on top for a few minutes. Peeled off easily!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sdam87:
adhesive for the plastic frame

my phone has a gap between the plastic frame and the aluminium. Do you think that putting some new adhesive would solve the problem ? where did you buy the adhesive from?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
New adhesive cannot solve it until you replace every month, it's design flaw:eek:

I brought it from Chinese Taoboo market (you can treat it as ebay)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] scdoyle:
I am another one who just replaced the plastic back with the glass one, and can confirm it is a quick and easy job. Used hair dryer to warm up the glue and a guitar plectrum to detach the old cover. New cover slots in perfectly and seems to be sealed well. I ordered it from witrigs and would highly recommend. Arrived in Canada in ten days from ordering and great communication throughout.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] New Folder:
Thanks for guide, will order right away.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] idimitro:
I am in the same situation. This method sounds quite safe for the internal components.

I have a black phone but I am considering the yellow back that just arrived ;)

I might post photos when I get enough time to do the thing.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Daniele728:
Hey m8

Where did you fix the plectrum at the beggining to lift the back cover?!

Thank you ;)

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] scdoyle:
I started at the top just next to the speaker using the gap as an opening and then worked my way around the while edge. Once the glue was softened the plectrum slid in fairly easily.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] infinitylook:
Good day, i would like to replace my plastic back cover of z1c. i will order from witrigs. does it come already with an adhesive or do i need separate order for adhesive. how about the NFC. if i will replace it with the glass z1f, would i still get NFC and would that be on the same location too or no more NFC if i replace with the Japanese Z1f glass back cover? thanks.

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the Z1f cover doesn't have NFC marking on the back, would that mean i wouldn't get NFC functionality or is NFC embedded on the back portion of the phone (on the battery location)? Hoping for a quick reply. Also i will order the z1f back cover from witrigs, does it come with the 3m waterproof adhesive or do i need separate order for the adhesive? THanks.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
NFC still functional after replace with SO-02F back, NFC antenna installed inside the machine, not the back plate:good:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] infinitylook:
How about the adhesive

Where did you order your back cover, is it from Witrigs? If i order there does it come with 3M adhesive also or do i need to order one from the website also? And about water proof, is yours still waterproof? thanks :laugh::):):)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
I order it from China with adhesive installed, I thinks Witrigs should be the same
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] infinitylook:
waterproofness

Have you tested underwater? Like submerge deep on a pale oe something?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rickywk:
My middle plastic frame broken, so I cannot perform water resistance test
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sdam87:
disappointed

i think i will replace the plastic frame and add some super glue or something. If it works great, if it doesn't... I'm just gonna destroy this F phone

and seriously not buying a sony again. different panels for the xperia V some were terrible and now this phone made out of glue with a cheap plastic cover instead of glass. Why do we get the cheap stuff just for being in other countries!!!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Daniele728:
I replaced my back cover this afternoon and i will try waterresistance sono.

Everything went well during the replacing...back cover bought from witrigs

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] infinitylook:
Great hope it will go okay. Please tell us results after
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] GiveMe2Beers:
Considering the fact that the plastic-to-glass back replacement is 100% flash bleeding related, I would have expected more night shoots tests after the back glass mounting....but in fact there are few/none...

Without this kind of test, don't want to be rude trust me, but the thread is virtually pointless, how and why people should decide to do or not to do a possibly unwarranting intervention on their brand new phones if they can't see how the camera works after?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] --anx--:
That's a good point...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Darkimmortal:
Who cares about the flash bleed?

I'm replacing my back cover so I can have a glass-like surface (in this case literally glass) on the back that doesn't scratch super easily

It's 100% about how the phone looks and feels in hand
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] GiveMe2Beers:
Seems like a pretty good reason to invalidate phone's warranty :svetius::svetius::svetius::svetius: