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[General Topics] reflux83:
Work great on Oneplus One

I was unable to read ventra card on my OPO. I ended up using squareless on a Nexus 7 (2012) to read the card and even that was difficult. But once I was able to get the number and transfer it to simplytapp it seems to work even more effectively than the ventra card itself. Thanks for the guide. You should mention that the ventra card will take some patience to get to be read.
[General Topics] icmevans:
I've been trying to get my nexus 4 to read my Ventra upass for like an hour. All I have gotten is a bunch of "vamms " or the sound it makes and twice got 2 failed card reads. Anyone know a better way??
[General Topics] lagoboss:
We need to make a list of squareless hassle free devices.
[General Topics] eamondaly:
Works on Moto X

Worked flawlessly on my Moto X. Interestingly, the turnstile had trouble reading if I put the phone right against it (which I normally have to do with my card). Hovering it about a half-inch away worked fine.
[General Topics] icmevans:
Okay. So I finally got the card read after too long. But what is the application secret and the key? What's the difference?

Scratch all of this! Lol all you have to do is not do custom issuer.
[General Topics] kubodhi:
Does this only work with standard fare transactions? I subscribe to a monthly unlimited pass and as far as I can tell from here (ventrachicago.com/terms/#linkedTo), the reader would only see the NFC information and not the actual transit pass linked to my Ventra card. Can anyone clarify this?
[General Topics] lagoboss:
It emulates your physical card. Any pass on your card will be available on the phone.

The ventra pads see the phone as the card; they are even interchangeable meaning: you can tap on the bus (the pad deducts full fare and then you tap the phone on the turnstyle (the pad gives you your transfer).

I use this setup with my UPASS with unlimited rides and there is no issue. It only charges me when my pass isn't active.

I hope this helps.
[General Topics] iSecks:
Omg yes! This is awesome, I've been wanting to do this for a while but I didn't know how. Thanks for the guide!
[General Topics] Juiceboy125:
Seems like this doesn't work for me. The SimplyTap app keeps crashing when I try opening it. :/ I was really looking forward to using my phone for this. I have the Find 7a running CM11. Is there an alternative app I could use?
[General Topics] Smac7:
so this doesn't interfere with google wallet at all?
[General Topics] icmevans:
That is correct. U have to open each one separately I believe. And u can't put Ventra cards into google wallet which is odd.
[General Topics] highcheef13:
After I select SwipeYours it brings me here: http://i.imgur.com/mLnEyKO.png

I can't figure out how to proceed... Maybe they updated the app since your original instructions?
[General Topics] icmevans:
Yeah this was my problem. All you have to do is click send application. After that you just follow the instructions it gives you. Put in the code. And edit script and then continue or what ever the button is.
[General Topics] ACastanza:
Anyone get a chance to try this with other transit providers? Seattle "Orca" card maybe?
[General Topics] aj4000au:
I'm gonna try this with Sydney's Opal transport card...

Edit: Doesn't work. Squareless can't read the card's NFC data. :(
[General Topics] giovanni645:
Trying this in the Metro Card out here in the Middle East - Squareless can't read the data:

Here's the tag info from NFC Tools:

NXP MIFARE DESFire / NXP MIFARE DESFire EV1

IsoDep, NfcA

ATQA

0x0344

SAK

0x20

ATS

0x80

What tag info do you get from the NFC Card for Ventra?

Is there a way to translate this information to the swipe details?
[General Topics] webmastir:
Is the SimplyTapp app this one?

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapp

It's not named SimplyTapp. Just Tapp. :confused:
[General Topics] Rapscallion16:
Worked like a charm on my OnePlus One! I did have issues with SquareLess not recognizing my card, but I got it eventually. I'll be sure to share this with my more techie friends.
[General Topics] webmastir:
WHICH SIMPLYTAPP app did you install? I can't find it.
[General Topics] Rapscallion16:
The one you posted before is correct. I'm not sure why OP called it SimplyTapp. :P
[General Topics] webmastir:
Oh. I wish he would've fuc king linked to the apps :rolleyes:

Thanks man :good:

EDIT: Follow this guy's instructions since OP won't ever update his post.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54614130&postcount=40
[General Topics] lagoboss:
It interferes with Google wallet on my phone. In order to use Tapp, you have to set it up as the default payment app. But if you want to use Google Wallet, you can always open the app and temporarily set Google Wallet as default and when you need to use Tapp, you can set it as the default app.

If someone does not have this experience, please comment or chime in.
[General Topics] iSecks:
Did the Tapp update break this for anyone? I can't get my card to scan anymore.
[General Topics] icmevans:
It just broke for me too. Paid so much because I don't carry my card anymore. Does anyone have the old api ??
[General Topics] Rapscallion16:
The new update deleted my old card, but I saved my card code so I readded it. It added the card again fine, but it also restored my old card so now I have two Ventra cards stored. It's unfortunate that the only way to do this whole thing is with a buggy app like Tapp.
[General Topics] matrix2004:
What happened to the developer? If he doesn't want to keep updating it, maybe he can pass it on to one of us?
[General Topics] lagoboss:
I haven't tried myself today. I haven't been out on CTA since Thursday. I sent the developer an email about the card not being recognized after the update.
[General Topics] icmevans:
I got it to work again. I pretty much started from scratch. Deleted all cards I had stored. Uninstalled the app and started the whole process over. Also I entered in the full string and not just the second half. Don't know if that made a difference but it just worked for me.
[General Topics] guess005:
This changed everything. I hate carrying my wallet, I go so far as to choose which gas station I go to based on if they accept Google wallet.

Now that I have this, no more ventra card to hold don't either.
[General Topics] lagoboss:
The dev replied and said that the update had an issue and that they are working on it. I'll let him know that it is working after starting over.

I'd carry the physical card just to be safe until the next update.
[General Topics] icmevans:
Thanks for the update. You should ask since u got a hold of him if he can add a feature to at least nickname cards since they all say swipeyours.
[General Topics] lagoboss:
I can confirm that it is working again after reinstalling the app and re-adding the card.

I let him know about the nicknames and also suggested the ability to select the card's photo.
[General Topics] webmastir:
I re added mine and will try again on the CTA.

Thanks
[General Topics] fizmixa:
doesn't look like squareless is available in the google playstore: "this item isn't available in your country"
[General Topics] lagoboss:
Hey everyone,

This is an update from the dev: " found the problem.

good news and bad news.

the bad news. any new cards you created since the problem will not work. but older cards will work.

so you may have to go through the wizard again and add your cards if you removed your old ones.

new app published.

-doug "

Hope this helps
[General Topics] webmastir:
After readding, I get intermittent results. Works once, but not the 2nd time. I haven't tried it a 3rd time yet. :(
[General Topics] lagoboss:
It's intermittent for me too, but so is my physical card :/

I've actually stopped using it due to processing lag on the bus. It locks the phone up and says "card busy" and the ventra pad lags out too. But this processes is shorter with the physical card :/

#FUVentra
[General Topics] webmastir:
Yeah I've never had any problems with my Ventra card. I have to tap twice, every once in a while, but it's pretty rare. I also don't use CTA much any more.
[General Topics] icmevans:
Have you tested it since the update today? I don't want to be stranded without card today.
[General Topics] webmastir:
No. I haven't. I just updated it a few min ago. Not sure when I'll have a chance to try it again.:rolleyes:
[General Topics] lagoboss:
After installing the update available now (version 2.5), cards added before the previous update (the one that screwed everything up) should work.

So everybody that has been relying on this setup that re-added their cards between 2.4 and 2.5 AND deleted everything before 2.4 should re-add their cards- that is how I understood it.

I have not tested it. I would bring the physical card just to be safe though.

I will test my re-added card on version 2.5 ~ 2:25pm today on the blue line. I don't have the heart to play with it on the bus :/
[General Topics] webmastir:
Yeah don't want to be that fool who dicks around forever trying to pay with your phone, eventually having to pull out your card, which you should've done in the first place (in their eyes).
[General Topics] lagoboss:
Exactly LOL. Despite the nasty surprise at Roosevelt and Michigan, I have good news.

I can confirm that it works after re-adding the card.

But always test first because it's easy to screw up that long list of numbers.
[General Topics] mchinand:
SquareLess alternative?

Are there any apps that can be used instead of SquareLess to get the Ventra card info since it doesn't seem to be available in the Play store anymore? If so, which apps do you recommend?
[General Topics] webmastir:
Nope. That's it.
[General Topics] webmastir:
Happy to say it's been working pretty reliably for me in CTA stations. I imagine if it were an underground turnstile, where service is usually complete shi t, it wouldn't work so well. But for the most part, it's working after all app updates & re-adding card. :good:
[General Topics] icmevans:
Its working well for me too. I wonder if we can ask the developer to have an offline mode? So it doesn't have to check the cloud database every time. So in the subway we don't have trouble.
[General Topics] webmastir:
https://twitter.com/cta/status/522441661456986114

http://www.transitchicago.com/news/default.aspx?Month=&Year=&Category=2&ArticleId=3354

CTA just announced an official app by 2015 - with NFC support. Nice.

No more of this hacky s hit.
[General Topics] SilverWolf12:
Will the apps still be compatible with Android 5.0? Or should we assume that upgrading will mess things up?
[General Topics] mchinand:
Unfortunately NFC support isn't supposed to come until 2016.
[General Topics] invoke687:
Could someone provide a mirror for squareless?
[General Topics] webmastir:
Sure. Here ya go:

https://app.box.com/SquareLessAPK
[General Topics] dfawlt:
Use square as magstripe reader? TD Debit Visa?

I can't for the life of me get Squareless to read my TD Debit Visa card (it has the wifi logo, as in tap to pay and works famously) using a Nexus 4 4.4.4. I read that someone had luck on their Nexus 7, so I'll try that when I get home.

In the interim, would I be able to pull the MagStripe data using the latest Square? I read that there might be encryption in the way though.

Also can anyone confirm they have got this working using a TD Debit Visa Access Card?

Cheers,

-dfawlt
[General Topics] icmevans:
I had a nexus 4. I couldn't get it to read any card. I believe it has to be the nexus 4 that has trouble. You can ask a friend if u can use his phone to scan. Screenshot. And give it to you. That's what I did. As for using a square. I don't believe that is possible due to it being encrypted for the app to read. You may be able to buy a magstripe thingy from amazon and use that with a computer. Then you don't need squareless. Not sure if that works however.
[General Topics] webmastir:
It takes a lot of attempts sometimes to get it to read the card properly. Typically it's in the middle to upper area of the phone.

Be patient and keep trying...:good:
[General Topics] napkinsterror:
Inquiry

So this is pretty much awesome. I haven't even got it working, but I am excited that I came across this. This is my first phone with NFC, so trying to get the most out of it. I have a Motorold XT1254 (Droid Turbo). The Squareless App is not available via the Play Store, but the box link with the APK worked fine once I sent it to my phone. I also was able to get the ventra card reading with one tap and I tried it multiple times and it worked every time. This is very interesting just because of all the post about tapping 30+ times. The lack of the being able to copy and paste is seriously ridiculous.

The biggest problem for me is I don't want to lose google wallet functionality completely. Nonetheless, I have done some app development before and I am thinking about how hard it would be to make a widget or something on your home screen that you click and it just changes the default app so that you don't have to dig into the settings. I have to make sure that setting is available via API but I think this would be cool. I would love if people could comment on the idea (problems, interest, concerns, security).

It seems like the recent updates also have cause more inconsistency with the successful reading via mobile phones. I am wondering if someone can provide me to more information on how specifically Ventra NFC works and their Mastercard PayPass. I want to understand why I can use any of the other NFC Tag readers in the Play Store. Also, if anyone knows a good source for information on security problems with using this like people have been mentioning with copying their cards. I am just trying to better understand this stuff! (Also I have read ALL the help pages on the ventrachicago website, I am looking for more of the techie stuff)

Thanks. I will post back after I give this a test.
[General Topics] SilverWolf12:
So I was finally able to get it working. I upgraded to the Nexus 6 and it worked flawlessly. Maybe my Optimus G has incompatible hardware? But thanks to all who assisted me!
[General Topics] Rude People:
works like a charm with my UPASS on my Tmobile S5 (stock rooted)!
[General Topics] Tom_clouddride:
Cloud Ride on Google Play Makes this easy.

Cloud ride lets you take your tapp ventra card and use it in a mobile app in seconds. Must have nfc and 4.4 + worked awesome on my nexus 5.

"Cloud Ride mobile app is the first and only application to offer the use of the contactless Ventra card transit card directly from your mobile device. Cloud Ride enables contactless Ventra card payment at transit terminals via NFC enable mobile phone running KitKat 4.4 and up. Simply up load your Ventra card to Cloud Ride and begin to tapp and ride direct from your mobile phone. Digitize your Ventra contactless card and move in to the future today with Cloud Ride."

*For use in Chicago, untested in other systems across the world.

See it on Google Play at Cloud Ride under transportation apps.

* It wont let me post link.

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Cloud Ride on Google play makes this easy. It takes your contactless Ventra card and allows for use on mobile phone in seconds. Check it out on Google Play store at Cloud Ride....has a red blue and black train logo.!
[General Topics] icmevans:
Can any one confirm that the above app by the guy with 1 post and the app name in his name, that its legit? I don't want to put personal info and my cards into it.
[General Topics] doug@simplytapp.com:
cloudride

Cloud ride allows you to take your contactless Ventra card and put it on your mobile device (Android 4.4+ with Nfc) and tapp at transit terminal. Get at Google Play https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cloudride
[General Topics] lagoboss:
Just installed it. I'm going to test it out soon; can't wait! :)

Thank-you soo much for this.
[General Topics] lagoboss:
Just tried today. Doug is the simply tapp dev so I trust him :)

I just tried it today at the CTA rail station in Chicago; an elevated one, not the subway.

I tried today at 63rd and it worked just like my card does at most rail stations; as soon as I tap the phone, the turnstyle said "go". - only one tap needed and less than a second of contact.

If there aren't too many people behind me when I get on the 15, I'll try on the bus.

I'm using an SM-N900 (international Note 3) from Panama unlocked and running on an AT&T MVNO using official Lollipop.

Edit: worked flawlessly on the bus :)
[General Topics] webmastir:
Thanks for this! (until Ventra app comes out of course)

What's the "Device ID & call information" permission needed for? :confused:
[General Topics] doug@simplytapp.com:
This is only used to make the account unique to the phone. So, if u loose ur login and pass to wrong person, ur card can't be loaded on a different phone unless u unregister it
[General Topics] webmastir:
Nice. Thanks for the quick explanation!
[General Topics] lagoboss:
You guys should try to get cta to hire you or buy your app.
[General Topics] webmastir:
Lol. Why? Ventra already announced an app coming out later this year.
[General Topics] lagoboss:
Yeah, but CTA says that tap and pay will come "later" after the app has been established this year. If CTA were as awesome as this team, they would have an app now and tap and pay would be available at launch.

I'd market myself to them if I made these awesome apps. CTA/Ventra clearly needs help; they are running windows mobile on ventra pads XD
[General Topics] icmevans:
I downloaded this. I have not tried to use cloudride yet at a ventral station. However I registered my email and a password. I also scanned my card. I went to another phone, created another account user, and scanned the exact same card. There was no problems. Which brings me to why the email?
[General Topics] mchinand:
I installed it (Cloud Ride) but when I try to 'Sign Up' by entering my email address and a password, it says 'Invalid Email Address or Password'. Any suggestions on what I'm doing wrong? I have an AT&T HTC One (M7) running KitKat 4.4.2.
[General Topics] lagoboss:
Are you sure that you are signing UP instead of signing IN?

I don't really remember the process. I'll test on my mom's tablet soon. Edit: it won't let me download it on the tablet and it won't let me start over on my phone

Others, please help if you have suggestions.
[General Topics] Rude People:
Confirmed that it is sign up if it's first time use of the app. Also, i want to ask is it a must to have the Cloud Ride app open and running for it to function? I ask this because i have my card on Tapp set to always activate along with my phone's NFC set to listen even with the screen off and locked as it is more convenient this way.
[General Topics] booradley001:
Just tried it at the Chicago Brown station. The first tap didn't go through; the reader said "waiting" or something for about 3 seconds, then failed when I pulled my phone away. The second tap worked in well under a second. Not sure what the deal w/ the first one was, but I suspect it was my phone acting wonky. I'll try a few more times and see what happens.

Edit: Sony Xperia Z3c, for those wondering.
[General Topics] lagoboss:
My regular ventra card lags too so it's hard to tease out if it's the phone or ventra :/
[General Topics] mchinand:
Was this app removed from the Play Store, it doesn't seem to come up in a search.
[General Topics] webmastir:
Are you referring to CloudRide? It does appear that it has been taken down: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.cloudride

I figured it was only a matter of time until CTA sent them a C&D.
[General Topics] mchinand:
Yes, I was referring to Cloud Ride, I knew SimplyTapp was removed quite awhile ago and only Cloud Ride has been discussed for the last few months in this thread.

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Last month, they had a call for volunteers to test the new app. It's being developed by GlobalSherpa who has created similar apps for other cities/transit agencies. The new app is going to be for CTA, Pace, and Metra.
[General Topics] webmastir:
Yep. I signed up and was accepted. I'm currently beta testing for them.
[General Topics] mchinand:
I guess that means I wasn't accepted as a beta tester. Not too surprised since I'm an infrequent CTA and Metra user (~1/week).
[General Topics] corpomonkey:
Android 5.0 (Lollipop) and SimplyTapp

Has anyone upgraded to Android 5.0 and still use SimplyTapp on CTA?

I have an Android 5.0 update pending on my phone (Sprint LG G2) and I want to make sure SimplyTapp works before I upgrade. This App has been very convenient to use for my daily commute and don't want to lose the ability use SimplyTapp after I upgrade to lollipop.

Thanks in advance!
[General Topics] icmevans:
I have android 5.0 on my oneplusone and it works fine. Not sure able about anything else except for simplytapp
[General Topics] yours_falsely:
"So I'm pretty sure the website structure did change at some point and the directions aren't word for word applicable anymore. Here's what I did within Tapp.

Add new card - SwipeYours.

Use the SimplyBank Demo issuer and click send application

Select the Tapp app

Take your string acquired from Sqaureless and type it in the box to the left of "Modify Script." Click modify script when finished

Click personalize card

Click start new application

Select Visa Magstripe SwipeYours (even though MasterCard paypass is an option, don't pick that)

This process worked for me."

Is it still possible to do this? I followed these instructions and it will look like it worked with a swipeyours animation but then I receive a prompt that I have no cards. Was anyone able to set this up recently?
[General Topics] roadking719:
Seems like Jackless (Squareless' new name) isn't working with my OnePlus One for some reason, yet it used to work on my old Nexus 5. Any solutions? :confused:
[General Topics] jwb21:
Cloud Ride APK

I updated my phone to R3 of the Android M preview yesterday and, long story short, had to wipe my phone during the process. I've gotten so used to using Cloud Ride that I spent the last day searching off and on for somewhere to download the APK but ran into a lot of spam sites and apps trying to install "downloaders" ... does anyone know if the real APK can still be downloaded from somewhere out there?
[General Topics] webmastir:
I don't use it any longer (actually didn't know it still worked (sweet)), but I can extract the APK from one of my TiBu archive backups. I have one from earlier this year if you'd like me post it.
[General Topics] jwb21:
If you can and don't mind posting, that would be awesome. At least it will tide me over until the Ventra app (that probably won't work for the first couple months anyhow) is released. Much appreciated!
[General Topics] webmastir:
Sure. I just installed it and signed in via oAuth with my Google account — it's the only thing it'd let me sign in with. Appears to be functional.

Here ya go: https://app.box.com/s/dzh9la1fmkt1y7wi5vhj8jsrfztzhwwi
[General Topics] t3chwizard:
Does anyone have an apk for the old SimplyTapp APK? The new Tapp app always crashes when I try to refresh my list of cards on Lollipop. Does anyone have any ideas to fix this also?
[General Topics] webmastir:
Sure. Kinda like I did a few posts above, I pulled it from an archived backup. Appears to install and open on Lollipop(LG G2) at least. No idea if it still works as it used to.

Tapp APK: (rm'd link)

edit: I just realized it's still in the play store. i swore it was removed a while back.
[General Topics] t3chwizard:
That's the same one I have. For some reason it just crashes on me when I try to refresh the card list.
[General Topics] webmastir:
Ah. Yeah there's no fixing it then man, since it's now abandoned. :(
[General Topics] t3chwizard:
How do you know it was abandoned?
[General Topics] webmastir:
Because I know everything, Tim. :cool:

Hehe...but seriously.. it's coming up on a year since it was last updated.