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[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
What benchmark do you use? I have the Pay version of that one that starts with a "Q"? Quadrant, or something like that.

I do have an External SD Card installed, but I always do, so it's apples and apples, ya know?

I do have a very fast SD Card, one of those UHC-10's, or something to that effect. I think it's supposed to be the fastest one out there right now.

I've actually been pretty fortunate when it comes to SD Cards. My devices have always run exactly the same, with or without them installed.

As for this device, I was originally running it without one. Had to wait for them to arrive. But again, I noticed no difference in how it performs.

My biggest slowdowns are waiting for the screen to draw and for a file operation to start, etc., et al. And I have even installed an SD booster, which did smooth it out pretty well, compared to what it was, but it's still not so fast.

But I get what you're saying. I ran it ithout modifications at first and it had JB 4.1.2 at first (mine did not come with 4.3) and it ran great! But once I installed JB 4.3, well, that pretty much ended my daily cherring that I was doin in the direction of my Tablet. :)

As for speed, I know that you're right about custom ROMs, especially with the CM ROMs. I know they're wicked fast!

But remember my friend, I didn't mention speed when I discussed custom ROMs. :)

My choice to stay with the Factory ROM, has nothing to do with speed. I stay with it only for the reason that I mentioned.

I appreciate your offer of help. I really do! And I would have provided a benchmark, but I wasn't sure which one you'd find acceptable.

Oh, I remember the name now! Quadrant! :)

Will that one do? I personally do not think it will reflect what I'm seeing though. Plus, it's not just me. As I said, I read about this across devices and specifically regarding the TF701T, so I don't think I'm crazy.

Also, with no disrespect intended, if you're running a "really fast" custm ROM, then you can't really tell me how mine's doing, because it would be apples and oranges, ya know?

But I am certainly willing to try stuff with you, no problem! :) And thanks a bunch for wanting to do so!!!
[Asus Transformer TF701] berndblb:
I would bet you are mixing up reports about the TF700 with the TF701. I am following quite a few forums and threads on both devices and nobody, ever complained about the 701 being slow - except you of course :D

I was running it on stock until about 2 months ago and even then it was blazingly fast in everything: Downloads, browsing, file transfers, switching between apps - no hesitations whatsoever.

Face it: It's something YOU did. [emoji12][emoji56][emoji33]

Flash sbadgs's rooted Asus stock rom. It's pure stock - just cleaned up with few optimazations. You won't even notice the difference to pure stock - except exceptionally better performance of course.

And if you don't, it's time to wipe your data partition, re-install your apps slowly and find what's causing this beautiful machine to bog down.
[Asus Transformer TF701] sbdags:
Trust me I know how the stock ROM runs. In quadrant you should get 15,000+ which isn't slow. You'll also see from the breakdown that the CPU is not the bottle neck. Tweaked and customised you'll see 18,000

Do me a favour get rid of that SD software and remove the sdcard, reboot. Run quadrant. What do you get....?

Time for a factory reset?
[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
I believe you do, my friend! I was not doubting you on that at all!

I did just notice that you are the guy making the custom ROM being discussed here. That's cool. To talk to the source, I mean. :)

I am not interested though. Not because of the quality of your work or anything. From the discussion here, it seems like a great product! I'm just not interested in spending days setting up again, just to go from v4.3, to JB v4.3, that's all. :)

But if I were to install a ROM, I'm quite sure that it would be yours, as I do very much appreciate retaining the factory experience and getting rid of as much bloatware as possible!

Just FYI, I did strip out at least 2/3 of the bloatware that comes with the ASUS Factory ROM.

Just as a note; If your ROM was KitKat v4.4.2 and you did what you did to this v4.3 ROM, then in all truth, I probably would install it and just leave it at that forever and enjoy your ROM! :)

Unless you can tell me that I could install your ROM over the Factory ROM and I won't lose my apps? I know that can be done in certain circumstances and of course, when the factory puts out a ROM update, it does do exactly that and you do not lose your apps, nor any of your own data.

If I cannot do that with your ROM, could you please tell me why I should change my mind and install yours anyway?

Please understand, I'm not asking that out of vanity, nor am I intending to be demanding.

Instead, I am genuinely asking a sincere question. I am actually going for humility, not vanity here, in that I recognize that no one is going to know your ROM better than you and I'm thinking that due to your superior knowledge (that's not meant to be patronizing), you would be able to tell me (if you feel so inclined) to tell me what important advantages I might gin from your custom ROM, that I do not currently possess,

As for where I am right now, of course I am on Jelly Bean v4.3.

I have also stripped out the majority of the bloatware that comes from the factory and so, it is not a case in which I just have a ton of stuff running wild on my tablet, eating up resources and thus, performance.

Again, just FYI, I am also running "Greenify", as well as "BootManager" (Defim Utils) and of course, "App Quarantine" for anything that might slip through my barricades <lol!>

So I leave it up to you, my friend. If you are so inclined (if not, then I appreciate the time you gave me already), what is it that should really draw me to your ROM, versus what I already have/have done?

Once again, THANK YOU for your time! I REALLY DO appreciate it!!!
[Asus Transformer TF701] sbdags:
Well you can install my ROM over the top and it would keep your apps and data. However the Asus unlock tool wipes the device ;) But you can use the Asus backup tool to backup and then restore afterwards. You'll lose 15 minutes of your life doing it and you could do something more important during that time ;)

Anyway you haven't run quadrant. I also don't like or recommend apps like greenify and bootmanager as they can and do introduce problems. You seem to be running a lot of background stuff. Why? Just unlock, flash my ROM, choose only the apps you want and be done with it ;)

BTW I also created a 4.4.2 based ROM in original dev but it is still beta and doesn't support the Asus apps although it runs most other stuff fine.
[Asus Transformer TF701] Rikodu:
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[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
Just FYI as an update, I forgot to mention that my device is already Unlocked, Rooted and has CWM Recovery on it.

Unfortunately, there is no official Recovery replacement for this device yet, so you cannot access your backups from the app, nor can you set it to backup to your External SD (backups are the primary reason that I originally installed an SD Card). You have to "Reboot into Recovery" and do it all from the CWM Menu while in Recovery (deleting backups, accessing the SD Card, which is FAT32 and is 32GB, etc., etc.).

Anyway, I just thought that would be important information for you to have. :)

I seriously am interested in looking at your v4.4.2 ROM whenever you come out with it though! And I did just find your v4.3 ROM and it looks like a really nice ROM! I won't be installing it though, because for me it would be considered a step backwards.

Please don't get me wrong on what I mean by that! I am not saying that my work is superior to yours by any means!

What I am saying, is that my goal for my devices, is just the bare ROM, with the company's Launcher and that's it! That's ALL I want! NOTHING more than that (except of course things like the default Android browser, the company's Account setup for the user to report issues and so forth)!

So when I said that it would be a step backward, I only meant as far as how much stuff is installed on it, that's all.

You see, on my Tablet, I do not even have left what you listed in your ROM thread. I removed even more stuff than you did. I removed Chrome (sorry, but I do not like it), Google Play Games, Hangouts, Email, Gmail, Google Magazines, Prss Reader, etc., etc..

So for me, it would be like just doing the Asus OS Update and then removing those apps again. It wouldn't make any sense for me, as an individual user. I'm sure it would, has and will help a lot of users of this Tablet, just not me.

I'm just someone who believes that all of those are and should remain, user installed apps, only installed by thhose who want them. And to have them already on there (if you do not want them), is just to take up space and possibly have things (maybe not with these) running in the background, or as services, that you don't even want to use, let alone running. :)

But I will be watching very carefully for your v4.4.2 ROM though! Because it will be A LOT easier to install yours, than having to back out of system stuff that's already set yup on my device, trying to use Asus's System Update! :)

THANKS AGAIN!!!
[Asus Transformer TF701] sbdags:
I think you need to look at how my Roms work ;) I don't think you realize that you can install or remove what ever you want during the installation steps..... It does all you want and nore. Seriously.

Its a bit like someone telling you that they only like a certain food when they haven't actually tried the other.

Go on give it a try. :D BTW tibu can restore in app from the nandroid back up and if you are already unlocked you can install this over the top without losing anything.
[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
Okay, so you're saying that your ROM givs the user a choice of whether or not to install each individual app. That's pretty rockin', dude! :)

But I don't think it's a matter of knowing how ROMS work. I'm quite familiar with that. But what I believe that you have to understand, is that most developers do not give you the option to go app by app, choosing what to install and what not to. I have installed a few ROMS and only two of them gave me any choices and in neither of them, was I able to pick which apps it would/would not install. I had the choice of which Launcher and which Kernel and stuff like that. But not which individual apps! Except for a few, I should say, to correct myself. But certainly not near all of them that it installed and while it was a really great ROM and was worth installing, I still ended up stripping half the apps out of it manually. I'm not complaining. I'm just saying.

As for your ROM, again, I don't see the point of installing yours, when it's what I already have. I.e., you've stripped it down and I do not have to install the apps that I do not want, but I already have that accomplished. Both are the Factory v4.3 ROM, stripped down.

If yours had an OverClocking Kernel in it, then I would give it a go! But without that, I just do not see why I would do it/what I would be gaining over what I have???

As for "how ROMS work", if you mean as far as installing over what's already on a device, while I'm sure yours will install right over mine, because of what yours is, that's not how it usually works and developers are always careful to stress that you need to wipe the device first, unless youre installing their ROM over their ROM, on the same device. I'm not off on that. I can show you many posts like that. And I have even taken the time to ask the developers, to see if they were just playing it safe in their posts, to avoid any backlash from folks and they again stressed to me to wipe my device first.

Believe me, if I was told that I could just go right over what I had, then I certainly would have! I hate setting up from scratch! I have too many apps to be doing that on someone's whim! In fact (other than a ROM thread), when someone tells me to "Factory Wipe/Reset", I move on and keep looking for another way! Hahaha!

To be fair (and I'm really not trying to be rude here), I did ask you what your ROM would give me over what I currently have, but I do not recall (maybe I missed it?) you giving me an exact answer??? Again, maybe I just missed it? Believe me, that is n entirely possible! <lol!>

I am enjoying our conversation and thanks again for your time, my friend! :)
[Asus Transformer TF701] Sleeepy2:
His ROM is optimized stock and during installation it will not add all of the things you have already removed.

What I don't understand is that if you have all of these apps installed with all of these specific settings why do you not use apps that can back every thing up?

1. You could do a nandroid to back up everything flash any ROM to see if the modifications are worth your time to set it all up how you like it. If it is not worth your effort you restore your nandroid and move on.

2. Use Titanium Backup (or something similar) back up all your apps and settings, flash a ROM, restore your back up and all of your apps with their settings are done.

This is what most people do and why people say it takes 10 minutes. I personally find it takes a little more than 10 minutes as I change things that you can't back up as they might not be in every ROM (I change the navigation buttons, order, amount, images and color which isn't in every ROM or us different).

Just because you do a wipe/factory reset it doesn't mean you can't restore your apps.

On a side note: the way your messages are written it makes it sound like you know everything thing and what other people say means very little to you. However it doesn't sound like you know how to back up your current settings and it doesn't sound like you have heard of the Aroma installer that allows you to pick and choose the apps you want to install.
[Asus Transformer TF701] sbdags:
I give up :p

Until you try it there is little point in us trying to discuss the ROM. This is vastly different to the stock ROM with some apps removed. I don't think you quite get it and you don't know how my ROM works until you try it. Do a nandroid backup so you can go back if you wish, and if you have feedback after installing please give it. Not before. :)

Read the change log in the first post for all the changes. You don't seem to have done so.
[Asus Transformer TF701] zabih107:
Sbdags CromiX ROM is THE BEAST! best I mean :)
[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
i think I get where the miscommunication is now.

You want me to try the ROM, just to try it, just for kicks. That's fine, but I don't do that. That's why I kept asking you what your ROM would give me, that I don't already have. Because if the answer is "nothing", then I'm not interested in installing it, because it would be "for nothing".

You may enjoy installing various ROMS and so forth, just to test them out on yoru device and that's fine. That's your choice, knock yourself out! :)

But for me, my device is what I do everything on. I run my network from it, I write my blog from it, I write my book from it, I do my studies from it, etc., etc..

That means that if it goes down, my world stops and I do nothing else, until it's back up and running again.

I am now disabled and so almost every moment of my life is spent at hom and most of that, in a bed. My Tablet is my communication with the outside world.

So now, if there's a ROM that gives people jollies to install and then laugh at their devices when they go down inflames, that's their enjoyment and more power to them! But for me, I need my device to work.

So once again I say; If there isn't an advantage for me to your ROM, then I am not interested in installing it., just to get what I already have. I do not do it "for fun".

So I think you're right. There's no point in discussing it any further, because we're not even on the same page. You have not answered me as what advantages there would be, so I will assume that there are none. However, maybe with your 4.4.2 ROM when you come out with it.

Take care. :)
[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
I have found utilities like Titanium to be of no use to me. I have tried backing up with it and it did not restore me to where I was.

I read the documentation, which to me, seems like it was written by one of the developers, to the other. Think about that. :)

I asked and asked and asked and asked and asked (56 more times), but have found no help. Oh, except for "Go read!". And as we all know, that solves every problem!

I know it works. I just do not know the details of how.

As for what I know, maybe I don't state things in the way most people like to hear them, but I have a simple rule:

If I say something, it's a fact. Not a maybe. Not something to discuss (unless I specifically state that I'm looking for knowledge, like I did in this thread), not something to debate. It's just a fact.

For example: Developers in almost every case will tell you to wipe your system before installing their ROM.

That's a fact. If you don't with your ROM, then you're the exception.

Now you can claim it's not true, but I won't pretend that maybe you're right, just so you feel good. I won't attack you over it. But I don't care if you save face. If you were smart, then you would have checked before you answered. I'll try to give you one "out". After that, you're on your own.

That's how I see things. I try to be polite. But when I say something is a fact, then that's what it is.

No, I don't know everything. Note what I just said about Titanium above. But I do know what I know and I state it as the fact that it is.
[Asus Transformer TF701] Sleeepy2:
Wow, you really are a ****. Well good luck to you.
[Asus Transformer TF701] blickley:
I think we all just need to ignore this guy. He clearly doesn't understand what sbdags has done for us. If he thinks he has gotten anywhere near on his own where sbdags has gotten us, then either good for him....or let him live in that dilusional world. I wish this whole thread would be deleted.
[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
Gee, did I upset your own delusion of your perfect world?

Actually, it's called being direct. And I'm not one of those people who looks down on noobs and refuses to help, thinking that telling them to go read threads filled with people telling someone else to go read, is help. I always help people.

I'm also not the one using foul language to someone I don't even know and who's done nothing to me.

Maybe you should reflect on your own attitude.
[Asus Transformer TF701] sbdags:
I have given up trying to help you. You don't listen, you don't read, you don't look, you don't understand and you certainly don't know, you make assumptions. Those are the facts as I see them.

I think you need to reread and understand what you have been told and where to look. Until you do that please don't try my ROM, let the rest of us enjoy it without you.
[Asus Transformer TF701] Zeuszoos:
Well that's where the problem lies. You haven't tried to help me at all. I'm serious. All you kept doing, is repeating to me to install it. Every single time I asked you why, you did not answer me. Once you said that it's stripped down. Okay, fine. So is the one I have installed right now. That was my response and I asked you again what benefit I would have by installing yours over mine, since both are stripped down Factory 4.3's. And again, you did not answer, except to tell me to try it.

I AM ASKING W-H-Y ???

I don't know what it is that gets into your heads here, but in the real world, whenever you put out a product, whether you chrge for it, or try to hand it out, you will always be asked by people W-H-Y they should use it. Normally, there's an answer.

I don't just install ROMS, just because somebody says so. So what am I missing here??? That is all I have been asking you. You should have answered.

So you go ahead and pretend that's an unreasonable request and that you're "giving up on trying to help me".

I'll live in the real world, where people usually know WHAT the help consists of.
[Asus Transformer TF701] sbdags:
Have you even read the change log? Which bits don't you understand as being different from stock? The kernel changes, the build.prop changes? The APK changes? The scripts for browser2ram, zipalign, GPU optimisation, data journaling, ..... Must be 100 things I changed and it took 150 hours to put together. It's all there for you to see and read but you refuse to do so. I have told you this as I also told you I have already released a 4.4.2 Rom but for some reason you fail to read and understand what you have been told. Hence why I can't help you. Sorry I can't deliver it all on a silver platter for you.

You said 'installing your Rom would be a step backwards'

Why should I help you with this 'fact' when a bit of simple research and you can read all the differences......? I asked you to provide some quadrant scores to see where your bottle neck is. No sign of them either..... You acknowledged that you can't follow instructions with titanium or kernel building so there is no point in asking you to do much more. You went off at another chap because he said you can install this with no wipes. Yes you can install it with no wipes. Your are showing your naivety about how android works. Just because every other developer tells you you must wipe doesn't mean you actually need to. If there are no framework changes between one Rom and another there are no reasons why you need to wipe. But you know all this right?

Btw please do not install my Rom. Please enjoy your device as you like. You know best right?

---------- Post added at 12:25 AM ---------- Previous post was at 12:07 AM ----------

OK I see where the confusion is I think. You were looking at my Asus stock Rom. Yes no point in you using that one.

You want this ;)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2608129

I think we had a needless argument :) Does that clarify things a bit?
[Asus Transformer TF701] blickley:
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[Asus Transformer TF701] Divine_Madcat:
You know, i was going to try to clean up the thread, but i don't think there is anything to actually salvage here.

It is sad to see people don't appreciate the hard work and free time that the devs give this community, but that is an issue i don't think i can solve.

What i will say, is that EVERYONE needs to learn there is a point where they need to let it go. Unhappy with a ROM/Kernel/Mod/Dev... it is probably in your best interest to just move on...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ump001:
How do i remove the battery icon from the top right? cant seem to find the thread with the registry hack for this.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] edsub:
Afaik there is no reliable hack.

Options:

Downgrade to AKU 1

Upgrade to AKU 2.3
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] taaeem:
Hey

I opened this thread for anyone, who has an idea how to get Huawei to release the whole source code for our P6, because I think that would be great if they do so!

Petition

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[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] rupro327:
Maybe we can try to start a Petition?
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] taaeem:
Would be an idea but I don't know if they would react.

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[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] rupro327:
If we have enough people like 3000 or 4000, maybe Huawei will think about that.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] taaeem:
But we aren't so many I think :/

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[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] rupro327:
If we share it, I think we can get this number.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] taaeem:
Do you know how to start something like that? Maybe you can do it?

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[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] bilbonotry:
You can search in HTC one X forum, they did things like that with HTC. They mainly let messages on HTC Facebook and Twitter accounts.
[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] taaeem:
We could spam every single Huawei account until they release it :D

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[Huawei Ascend P6, Mate] rupro327:
This is what I've found. We can start something like that. I would start this but my English is bad, I'm a teen from Germany. But I can help I've someone start a petition.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1767801