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[Fire TV General] FrostyOrDie:
So everyone is on 51.1.0.2 right now correct? Not taking any update after this by blocking the URL mentioned in this thread. I think I got my router to block this correctly
[Fire TV General] justin6162:
i love my aftv, someone please root this:good:
[Fire TV General] danshirah:
I second the motion!
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
Could you tell use which versions rootable? Just initial release update or the current version as of today?

51.1.0.1 or 51.1.0.2 or both?
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
Surely hope both seeing as how mine shipped with 51.1.0.2.
[Fire TV General] steellz:
Yeah mine came with 51.1.0.2 and I'm pissed off
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
Jcase said earlier in the thread that his method works/will work with the latest OTA update. So, yay!
[Fire TV General] MadFlava:
Which websites do I need to block to disable updates? Had to figure out how to do it in PFsense.
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
Its been mentioned in this thread just go back and read. I dont know the URL by heart. I just copied and pasted it and used my firewall on my router. It works
[Fire TV General] retroben:
I can't get the URL to fit in my Linksys router's parental control page.

It ends at "edge" with no possibility of typing more.:(

Will someone please elaborate for every way to block the OTA update?

Edit:I made my Fire TV forget my network for it to stay disconnected so I can use the emulators I have on it until the root gets released.
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
As far as I know, the only URL that you should block is http://amzdigitaldownloads.edgesuite.net

Please correct me if I'm wrong or if there are additional URLs that need blocking.
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
Try not typing the http:// portion. Thats how i have it..
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
Actually that's how I have it, too. haha :laugh:
[Fire TV General] hang10z:
An easy way around things for anyone that has problems is to get a free account with opendns, point your router to use their dns instead of using the dhcp assigned servers from your isp, then go into settings and block the url.

You can do this by going into settings, web content filtering, select custom... Then at the bottom you can add specific urls to always block.
[Fire TV General] HemRoyd:
Yeah, I wasn't sure how to do it with my TP-Link router. Still not positive if it's right but I ended up creating a rule for the IP address of my Fire TV in the Access Control section to deny packets from that domain. The full URL does not fit in my settings either, however the guide panel says that you can enter "keywords" of the domain. I just entered what fit: "edgesuite" in one box and "amzdigitaldownloads" in another. I'm not sure if it will block anything else I may need, but so far everything seems to be working OK and I can view content on Prime. I haven't tried to install any new apps though.
[Fire TV General] BlueChris:
I have ddwrt and I puted there the dns block but haven't understand how to root it. I haven't powered the ftv yet .

send from my N9005 with tapatalk
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Here is what my parental control page looks like.

Edit:Can I use keywords on my particular Linksys E2500 router?

I really want to have the choice of rooting AND access to the internet.

My router brand just LOVES making things more difficult.

I tried adding them individually with the amz... and edgesuite keywords in two URL boxes,and they returned with .com added to them.
[Fire TV General] roligov:
Patiently waiting on the root exploit :)
[Fire TV General] lsdlsdlsdlsd:
I dont know if the stock Linksys firmware offers dnsmasq support, but this is what I put in mine:

address=/firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com/127.0.0.1

blocking http://firs-ta-g7g.amazon.com allows me to access Prime video, as well as Hulu and Netflix and has blocked the updates.
[Fire TV General] MadFlava:
I switched to the OpenDNS method on my setup. Super easy.. thanks, Hang10z.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Should it be clickable in my router settings,or is it somewhere else?

How do I do this dnsmasq?

I can't find anything clear on how to do it.:(
[Fire TV General] BlueChris:
Retroben you can use opendns. Setup a free family account, set in there the blocking and after in you router in connection put the opendns servers dns and you will be fine.

send from my N9005 with tapatalk
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Do I need to disable DHCP?

Somebody post an entire list of easy instructions for every method of blocking the OTA update please.

Edit:I keep getting the FKING oops message regardless of the DHCP setting. :mad:

Please help.
[Fire TV General] mattgyver:
Second the use of opendns.

Sent from my TARDIS
[Fire TV General] hang10z:
1. Get opendns account

2. log their website and then go to settings, web content filtering, select custom... Then at the bottom you can add specific urls to block

3. Setup DDNS with your router or download and use their software to keep your wan ip synced with your account

4. Change the dns servers your router uses for wan connection from isp assigned to opendns servers

5. profit.

:good:
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Finally,after much pain and misery to the point of feeling like my brain is melting,I managed to get it to say success.

The bad guys phishing page is blocked...on my PC.

And how do I know when the amz page is blocked?

I still get file not found instead of the site having a blocked message. (I waited for the 3 minutes)

Edit:Nevermind,it blocked the page.
[Fire TV General] hang10z:
Glad to help
[Fire TV General] retroben:
I got it working after placing the DNS into the computer's internet options,is that the right way?

Someone please tell me how they set their Fire TV to use OpenDNS?

I got the PC using it successfully,but I fear using the internet on my Fire TV until I can be exactly sure that OpenDNS is enabled for it.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
DP for removing Yesterday status.

I really need to know how to get OpenDNS to apply on my router.

The picture on their site is on the DHCP slots,which must mean they would have it set to automatic like me.

I assume it is not working on my PC from the router's settings because of the PC being connected to the modem. (the cmd resolves my computer's Google DNS)

Should I be using the Fire TV to set up the blocker on the OpenDNS pages?

Edit:I kept forgetting to ask/nobody anywhere mentions static ip working...

Can I just use the Static IP option in the router's basic settings,and then place the two DNS addresses in the two slots?
[Fire TV General] lightning413:
What router do you have?

Do you know how to access your router's setup page?

What's your IP range?

Once we have those answers we can get you on the right track.

Changing the DNS on the PC level doesn't restrict the FireTV's access and as far as I'm aware, there is no way (yet) of changing the FTV's DNS so we have to do it at the router level.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
I have a Linksys E2500,and I know how to/have many times,access/ed the router settings.

I found out that static is a better choice for me and changed the router to it plus the correct DNS for OpenDNS and the PC stays off when not in use.

My range copypasted and it starts at 100: IP Address Range:	192 . 168 . 1. 100 to 149

I think the only way I can tell if it is working is to configure it through my Fire TV. (I do not have any other device for directly testing Wi-Fi settings.)

Is that what I must do?

Additionally,do I need to click the reboot button in the bottom of router settings page afterward to make the settings effective sooner?

BIG EDIT:I took the risk of enabling internet on my Fire TV,logged into OpenDNS,saw my presets,and I went to the digital downloads page and...it blocked it!

IT WORKED!!! FINALLY!

It was "easy" the whole time.

I just did not try it on a Wi-Fi computer/device.

Sorry for all of my trouble.
[Fire TV General] droider137:
Anyone have luck with the Verizon fios actiontec router. I must be missing something. Went and blocked it under parental control. Can not get it to work.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Sorry to derail you,but...

Warning: DO NOT use static IP on Linksys Routers!

Your internet connection will stop working after a while until setting it to automatic again.

I managed to fix mine after much hardship of deleting the firmware and reinstalling it while switching to modem for internet access to download the lost installation CD.

Edit:I tested the page again with automatic mode and it blocked it.

Now to hope all of my efforts are worth it.

Will DNS-O-Matic work well enough to block the OTA update?

Edit:I am leaving the DNS-O-Matic page open inside Opera Browser while using the Home button to sustain it on my Fire TV.

If I leave the page,I get logged out shortly afterward for some dumb reason with no choice of keeping it logged in via checkbox.

Now that I have the chance to,what can the Fire TV get when rooted?

Will it be possible to obtain OpenGLES 3.0 support and/or get Dolphin Emu running by updating to KitKat? (hopefully fixing Qualcomm issues)

If the Linux distro method works,can we use the successor to Wine (can't remember name) for running Windows programs like PJ64 or maybe even Dolphin Emu?

Finally,would it be possible to change the trackpad of a K400r keyboard so it can simulate a fully functional analog stick?
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Important DP.

I need to ask this,and it benefits everyone...

Is version 51.1.0.2_user_510058520 capable of getting root?

I had this version since I set up my Fire TV in April and recieved the "latest" update.

If it is not supported for root,how do I fix this,Justin?

Edit:I saw info about KitKat 4.4.3 being delayed including some issues with root access involving the ART.

A Linux security thing was mentioned as well.

It also says to keep it in Dalvik mode for your apps to have proper root access.

Edit:Forgot some...

Using root access,will it be possible to change the Fire TV remote's microphone function so that it can be used as an actual microphone in apps by disabling the automatic search mode?

Can it also have the Fire Tv onscreen search keyboard disabled to stop that annoying automatic takeover/control locking when trying to use FireFox and other troublesome browsers?

Anyone answer these whenever you can. Please,thank you.
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
Jcase said it would be supported.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Thanks.

Maybe Freedreno will be usable on Fire TV to make Dolphin Emu runnable.

Qualcomm EFFIN sucks Konky Dong!

Dolphin's hall of fame/shame deems Qualcomm as horrible.

h**t**t**p**s://

x

dolphin-emu.org/blog/2013/09/26/dolphin-emulator-and-opengl-drivers-hall-fameshame/
[Fire TV General] alwaysbless:
[MENTION=5869292]retroben[/MENTION] Youre asking questions no one is going to know the answer to until root comes out. It also sounds like however you are blocking your DNS that it isnt gonna work. You should read carefully the instructions in this thread for setting up opendns it is very straight forward, I had mine up in running in 5 minutes.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
I figured that they can be answered for for other devices in general that can be rooted.

Thanks for your concern.

In response to the instructions,I have LAN,not WAN.

The amz edgesuite page gets blocked on my Fire TV after I set the router mode back to automatic,and placed the two appropriate DNS numbers in the DHCP's slots #1 and #2.

My presets on the OpenDNS page are still there.

Please explain what fault I may have with it.

Edit:I also hope that widget support can be made available when rooting.
[Fire TV General] hang10z:
:highfive::laugh::good:
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Keeping the DNS-O-Matic page in one of the Opera Browser tabs to sustain the login seems to be the best thing to do.

I can't leave my computer on because it is old and liable to burn out if left on 24/7.

The main reason to never leave a computer turned on:the harddrive,RAM disk,and other parts will get worn out much faster and cease to function entirely.

Summer is here,and it will most likely get very hot.
[Fire TV General] MadFlava:
Well if you dont have WAN, you got nothing to worry about. How are you typing your posts?
[Fire TV General] retroben:
???

Random tip:You can avoid the annoying captcha code by clicking "quick reply" instead.

I am posting...

On my Logitech K400r keyboard through the Opera Browser in a seperate tab,and sometimes on the computer.

You can type more easily after typing the first letter and hitting the onscreen search's "previous" button to regain full browser control.

My main reason to block the OTA update is so I can access the internet for various browsing activities and watching YouTube and other stuff,never worrying about root becoming impossible.
[Fire TV General] mssam:
Quick question, does that Logitech K400r work with everything you use on the ftv?
[Fire TV General] arcwick08:
So we can all stop asking; How to block firmware updates via your router
[Fire TV General] retroben:
So far,my K400r has worked quite well,except with N64 emulators having issues with multiple keys like when using Z,A,up,and right simultaneously,they don't work so well. (I can't easily perform SM64 long jumps or B-T Talon-Trot upward right)

I use the IKJL keys for movement and I switched the D-PAD to the cursor keys.

The PC power button lets me darken the screen while on Home,and it sets the Fire TV to "off mode" for conserving power.
[Fire TV General] krasny2k5:
One question about the updates... AFTV updates without any kind of user confirmation? Does the OTA update automatically?

I don't know if this behavior is normal in the kindle family, this will be my first device from amazon.

Thanks
[Fire TV General] {ParanoiA}:
Yes during boot. U have to do the first one which is mandatory while blocking second
[Fire TV General] BlueChris:
I'm w8ting Myne so I plug it and I let it do the 1st update and then I block ?

send from my N9005 with tapatalk
[Fire TV General] HemRoyd:
I thought second didn't matter either, whats the deal? I have second update, should I do a restore with block in place?
[Fire TV General] jdellingson7:
Answer to what will be able to achieve root access

I have read a lot of questions in regards to what versions of firmware will be able to achieve root access when its available. I had this question as well after reading so many posts here with no definitive answer. So I asked J Case on twitter for the answer. So if your on 51.1.0.1 or 51.1.0.2 and have blocked your FTV from updating to the next firmware that Amazon will soon releasing your good to go. If you have not blocked your FTV and need help go to this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2760884 It's my understanding that J Case is waiting for the next firmware update to be released and then Root exploit will be released. Hope this helps as we wait
[Fire TV General] {ParanoiA}:
From reading through the thread I was under the impression that we only wanted the initial update only so that's all I did. Didn't want to be S.O.L for root when available. If the 2nd update is ok to do then I'm sorry for the mis-information.
[Fire TV General] roligov:
As long as you remain on version 510058520 you will be able to root your device when the exploit is out. Do not update past version:

It is safe to update as of 27th May 2014 08:30am (GMT +2).
[Fire TV General] krasny2k5:
Another n00b question:

Will root open the door to custom roms? or for that we need unlock the bootloader of the device?

Thanks!
[Fire TV General] retroben:
If you want the standard 4.4.3 upgrade of Android KitKat,the bootloader may need to be unlocked.

I am curious of what CyanogenMod is all about.

Maybe if that Linux distro method works,I could emulate Windows,and then PJ64 with half decent speeds.

One problem that I would bump into is needing the Visual C versions installed.

Edit:I just got a Targus 4-slot USB adapter from Target,and it works perfectly fine on my Fire TV.

I hope to additionally use it for my removable storage when root becomes available.

Please hurry up with the OTA update of death so root can be released to us who desperately need it.

Amazon should make that a normal fix for accessing USB storage since the Targus 4-slot adapter works so well.

The 2nd slot began charging my Dane Elec removable storage streamer when I hooked it up!

I wish that I knew how to bridge to the network so I can stay connected to the internet while accessing "USB" storage through the streamer app instead of disabling internet to connect with the offline Wi-Fi access point.
[Fire TV General] justin6162:
please share the root:(
[Fire TV General] byrdcfmma:
The root will be shared when the dev is ready. Asking for it is in poor taste and it was said that if it were released now, then amazon would be able to patch it with their next update. As soon as amazon releases the next update, then it will be shared when it is ready
[Fire TV General] krasny2k5:
If I understood right, that´s not the case. Jcase is waiting for amazon to fix the vulns that he used to get root access to release it. This is why is so important block amazon updates. He already notified Amazon to get those (pretty serious) vulns fixed.

If i´m wrong, please let me know.
[Fire TV General] tarvoke:
yeah, I agree I think it's more like that.

I had 2 very odd moments in the last few days (had both commonly mentioned URLs blocked on router) - first time of any real problems, too.

- went into 'watchlist' as usual, but nothing showed up, then full blue screen for a bit, then it rebooted on its own. version number did not change.

- was watching some prime tv, then all usb devices stopped working, but video+audio continued as normal. reconnecting/repowering usb, but kbd/mouse/360 none of them still wanted to work. turned off power, waited. turned back on, I got the (white-logo) amazon screen, but it was stuck there, forever. rebooted several times but still same stuck place.

finally I removed the 2 URLs from router, rebooted firetv, and it was ok after that. version number did not change. it did not take a long time as if doing some full network update, but maybe it needed to rectify some things, check some sums, clean up? (reminds me I still need to re-add the URLs)

the 2nd event is what worries me. I too believe what jcase meant is that whatever imminent OTA update may/maynot break his specific root exploit, so protect yourself from it, better to be safe.

but this is the first time my device ever had some real brainfarts - i.e. if it gets slightly fuxxored and needs to talk to mama on reboot to clean up $WHATEVER, that may be problematic if blocking, but then unblocking could result in getting the yet-to-come OTA.
[Fire TV General] BlueChris:
But according to jcase he submitted the hole to amazon to fix it, if amazon don't fix that what the means? Amazon want that hole?

send from my N9005 with tapatalk
[Fire TV General] krasny2k5:
I don´t think that way.

As far I understand (and please correct me if I wrong), Jcase thinks that the vulnerability he used to gain root is pretty serius, so even if amazon releases a new firmware without it fixed he will not release the root. He also stated that maybe is in Qualcomm code, so maybe isn´t Amazon who must fix it.

Also create a new firmware even knowing what´s is wrong and need to fix is a very difficult task and needs to be checked and rechecked before it´s released to general public. For Apple it took three months or more fix jailbreak vulns in their phones. If you release a firm with problems you can have millions of angry people knocking at your door. So is too early to think about conspiracy theories.

I think that the problem is that this root will be some kind of "thetered" jailbreak, we´ll be forced to don´t upgrade system and very limited (new units will be unrootable), so i have more faith in JTAG root develop, that seems stopped at the time. Also I espected more people working in this wonderful device, and the only developer who seems interested in this device is Jcase (whom we should be very grateful).

Sorry for my bad english.
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Very recently,Android 4.4.3 has been released,and has also been pushed to AOSP!

Source:liliputing

Article:Google releases Android 4.4.3 KitKat

Date:06/02/2014 at 6:55 PM by Brad Linder

"In the meantime, I suspect we’ll see custom ROMs based on Android 4.4.3 in no time flat now that the update has also been pushed to the Android Open Source Project."

Just thought this would be helpful to anyone wanting to know.
[Fire TV General] deanemj:
So...maybe the root exploit release draws near? Is that what you're getting at?
[Fire TV General] retroben:
Don't forget,we have to wait for Amazon to hurry up and release the unwanted update that we are blocking for root access.

Then JCase will hopefully let us know ASAP when he releases the root exploit package. (I hope there is a for dummies package)

I also can't wait to see if Fire TV can benefit with Linux Distro and Windows simulation for things like PJ64 or maybe,although unlikely,Dolphin Emulator.

Sure hope that external storage works after rooting.

If not,I will need two simultaneous internet connection spots so I can connect my Wi-Fi powered media streamer without having to switch out frequently or worry about dropping the signal on my media streamer and randomly losing access to 32GBs worth of storage via USB stick.
[Fire TV General] tarvoke:
vidmin english, no worries!

yeah now I REALLY know that I am getting old, or I have a hole in my head, or both. haha! everything you said should be obvious to all of us. thank you.

it makes 100% sense that jcase wrote about the exploit to Spamazon, and then that he would only release his way of root if Amazon fixes it. if they do not update firetv, that may put a lot of the users in potential danger. so it's not socially responsible to publish the exploit if it's not fixed (well, this becomes an interesting point for debate)

good lord, and, oh hell, no. AOSP releases, major and minor, happen all the time but, sad to say, carriers/vendors are VERY slow off the mark to pass them on. even if it's security fixes. especially if it's security fixes. (plus, as krasny mentioned there are layers upon layers of companies and developers and licenses and lawyers and and and... it is usually easier to move an entire building 2 feet to the left, than update a specific embedded device OS...)
[Fire TV General] roustabout:
I don't want 4.4.* on my fire TV. XBMC is awesome on it, and the 4.4 branch of Android made SMB mounting a lot more challenging. 4.2 derivatives do great with SMB, and I'd hate to be limited to plex to read files with - xbmc has much wider file support than DLNA does.

Last night, I was working with 4.2 apps and sideloading, and I was curious about USB harddrive support. I connected a powered USB drive and rebooted the box. It hung on startup until the drive was disconnected.

I think that means that with the right cable, we have a real shot at seeing what's what during the boot process and with luck, even after Amazon updates, sidebooting. I hope to grab a double ended cable today and look into this more.

I've got a lot of 4.2 apps running at this point, albeit rather gankily - but I have gmail and youtube and maps running, and the system reported success in installing the google services framework.

The CM gapps stack are failing signature requirements, but the gapps etc. from a 4.2.2 device's /system/app and /data/app folders are working by and large.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tcd2004:
I played with my cousins htc apache/Sprint 6700 before i got my 8125 and one of my favorite things about the camera was the panoramic mode which allowed you to stich up to three pictures together right on the camera to create a nice landscape picture. I figured since the wizard and apache are basically the same that the wizard would have this feature as well but much to my dissapointment it doesnt. Is there anything out there that will add this feature to the wizard? Im not that familiar with registry edits but it seems like something could be copied from the apaches registry to add to the wizard and make this feature available. Thanks for the help
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tcd2004:
bump
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mattucd:
that's a good question, I would like to know the answer too.