yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] helmi_c:
thingonaspring, do you use hima (Wiz & Uni) SAP? or do u guys hv the different setting as mine?

btw backlight fix just add this registry and frontlight.dll to windows

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\FrontLight]

"Dll"="FrontLight.Dll" << default is Backlight.dll

or maybe u should edit the full:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\FrontLight]

"IClass"="{A32942B7-920C-486b-B0E6-92A702A99B35}"

"Order"=dword:0

"Dll"="FrontLight.Dll"

"Index"=dword:1

"Prefix"="BKL"
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
With the wizard files you cannot turn on wifi at all, because wifi is not present in comm. manager. If you copy the contents of Button & Wifi.rar (wlan_service.dll, wlanmgr.exe wlanmgr.lnk) then you can turn on Wifi. After you turned it on, it will be visible in comm. manager, and on today screen too. I personally think, these files are missing from this rom build, and maybe some other registry entries are missing for connection manager.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
I tried this in the last 5 minutes. Backlight setting works with PocketZenPhone and SPB Pocket Plus, so I personally dont need the sliders :) But i will check your recommandation, and report u back.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] splonker:
Wow! This topic really has flourished in a short time! Got a few questions because I'm excited by the rom but past experience tells me that I should not rush into messing with roms which are still in pre-pre-alpha. Is the Rom at an adequate stage for general-ish usage? Is there a WIKI page?

Kind regards

Lee
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] helmi_c:
and this is the registry to put it on Service, work fine, now u can click on WifiSetting on CommManager but still cant turn on wifi from CommManager...

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessService]

"Context"=dword:1

"Order"=dword:8

"Index"=dword:7

"Prefix"="WMS"

"Dll"="\\windows\\WirelessService.dll"

"Keep"=dword:1

"Description"="Wireless Monitor Service"

"DisplayName"="Wireless Monitor Service"
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] thingonaspring:
Helmi_c

Yep the Drivers\builtin reg keys are aligned with those you posted, so it's not that.

I will try the service keys as well, can't imagine comm manager working too well without that.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
Not working. Double checked, i have the dll in windows, and registry settings are applied. (FrontLight.dll size:14,336 date: 04/18/2005), but you can adjust the backlight with spb pplus for example, it works that way.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
Checking suggestion :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] helmi_c:
try this backlight, overwrite to \windows its seems that u guys using different version then mine...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] spkr4thdd:
I've tried a couple of these ROMS, and made a couple with bepe's tools myself, and apart from WiFi not being controllable from the Comm Manager applet (although it works from the Today Screen), it has been the most stable WM5 ROM (and the fastest, by far!) that I have used to date, I've had no crashes or hangs, and even with a multitude of apps loaded it still performs comparably with what people expect from WM2003SE, and the RAM Disk options should increase the performance as well... so go for it ;) (But I take no responsibility for you not being happy with it :twisted: )
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
This was the problem :) Now it works for me too. Strange that nothing was overwritten in windows, and the sliders are present only if I execute this backlight .exe from \windows directory. Keep up the good work guys :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bepe:
This includes a newer version of CommManager.exe -> v1.0.3.0 (from the Wizard AKU2.3)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] helmi_c:
Quantum Timing Tweak:

Go to address 00207B94 with Hex editor (user WInhex for simple, or HVIEW for more)

and try to set different value from it (default is 4B) MS Recommended = 10 times per second

try to change to 78, 64, 28 (Tuma 1.3) , 20 after u flash the rom, no hard reset require This is only changing how things execute, and please post the result what the best speed for this rom. cos I'll not built my rom again, kinda busy right now..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] a771la:
sms are still slow :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] helmi_c:
its seems that u not running with the full rom (SAP not installed)

try this

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blue Angel/Helmi_BA_WM2k5_AKU_2.3_Beta1.rar

or

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=55760&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=125

and apply my patch everything will be oke. only camera hs a bug.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] remixme:
Been BETA testing AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_2.zip

Speed is impressive, side by side comparison with my T-Mobile MDA Compact on 2003SE is very favourable in general use.

A few bugs of course; ie camera works fine for pictures, unstable when trying to use video; seems to take one video then bomb out.

Was wondering, how much of this ROM is XScale compiled code, and how much is from Wizard?

Will Tumas 1.5 bring further speed advantages?

Btw, anyone needs me to beta test, I can do so.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] a771la:
for a camera use : http://xdaforums.com/download.php?id=6645
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bepe:
there is no XScale compiled code, only ARM compiled and that is for Wizard, Universal, Himalaya, BA the same :wink:

I compared Wizard and Universal roms, the files are exactly the same except of the drivers and some differences because of QVGA/VGA

By the way almost everything is from Wizard (QVGA) except of the drivers...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] mwang:
I got the replace commManager but dont work,what should I do
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] remixme:
Thanks for the quick response Bepe;

It was this quote from Tuatara, that prompted me to ask the question, I mean an ARM processor is an ARM, but I was under the impression due mainly to this quote that there were XScale specific optimisations.

Wireless MMX springs to mind, but I guess an OS doesnt really require it.

But in any case, we have a fast rom on our hands with all the lastest stuff, Excellent Work!

Will do some speed comparisons with the ETEN G500 shortly.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
Nice rom, i stick with this. :) Only problem that msn messenger is not working. (impossible to log in)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bepe:
Found it:

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\CommManager\WLAN]

@="\\Windows\\WLanMgr.exe"

"DeviceName"="{98C5250D-C29A-4985-AE5F-AFE5367E5006}\\TIACXWLN1"

and there is the next problem: msn messenger

Himalaya users have the same problem... :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] mwang:
I try your rom , its nice , how to get WiFiTray and BTTRay in OEM folder ? I try to add Bepe's NEW_Wizard_WLAN into OEM folder but dont work.

I used Mamaich's Camera2K5_v1 and Default_Album_BA_AKU26_R20_Midi.cab ,Camera work fine,can someone tell me how to add those two cabs to OEM folder ?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
just wait 30 mins for my release, i have fixed all the bugs and camera and album are th ones above and working fine.

I WILL release it tonight, although by tomorrow i should have the ramdisk + msn working too, i will release fixes as CAB's and new roms so you can choose.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
...and yet another day when I'll get to sleep around 1am... :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] remixme:
22:35: Waiting patiently; for the ROM to test.

Will test as soon as you release it. Having trouble sleeping lately so figure I may as well use the time to good effect.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
same for me :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
Agile Messenger beta isn't working either 8)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=322700
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Black6spdZ:
I once got Agile working on Ivan R3 but have not on any prior or ROMS since
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Black6spdZ:
Midget, lets try to keep focused here and at least post your released ROM in this thread along with any known bugs and fixes so that we can work together to get a final release as soon as possible. If we stray from this we might as well work seperately on completely different projects
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] remixme:
I kinda concur in the sense that the ideal scenario would be a community ROM not reliant on any one person to release, but at the same time it can be difficult to say what bugs relate to what ROM release once a thread gets beyond a certain size.

Better to put known common bugs on WIKI, with what release has a fix, and which doesn't in order to carry on the work.

And maybe even a worklog to see what was done for each release.

I think all in all we need some project management if we are really serious about making the "perfect" or at least a "damn near perfect" ROM for BA!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] mwang:
buttom hardware

I found windows/appbuttons all programs was Wizard setting , delete all of them and copy programs from windows/start menu and windows/start mene/programs , and go starts/settings/buttons reset your buttoms , it work well.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] logout:
I already tested Midget_1990 and helmi_c Rom, but stil have problems with .Net application. My rom is too. I think this is important, because many app base on .Net.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Black6spdZ:
just wanted to post a couple sites with information regarding to WM5 and optimizations on NOR ROM memory based devices "our BAs".

http://www.aximsite.com/boards/showthread.php?t=130456

http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=898&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

hope this proves useful
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Yaantra:
Any luck getting the A2DP to work?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] helmi_c:
Midget_1990 i think u post for public is a little bit too early bro, ur rom hv more bug then mine, mine already do automatic Extended_ROM support and everything u hv....about camera detect stuff why dont u do it automatically? by editing initflashdata.dat? but there must be so much pressure u hv maybe? :wink:

it whould be better if u post here, and we can fix it together...:)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Black6spdZ:
what's the secret to uploading to the FTP? I have a bunch of OEM packages that everyone might be interested in using inside their ROMs ;)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] helmi_c:
username: xdaupload

pass: xda
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Black6spdZ:
ok I'll get those uploaded asap.. btw, helmi, your wiz and uni SAP keep freezing my BA after flashing.. what causes this? Actually some of these packages seem to do the same.. is it that UNICODE problem? Anyway, try these out, make any changes necessary to make them completely functional.. and please make notes so that others following can learn and build off each other

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blue Angel/OEM packages/

got most of these from buzzdev.net.. just wanted to make sure to give credit to the right folks
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Thanks! I'm currently flashing my first test ROM now, I'm aiming for a 64 ram / 64 ramdisk ROM :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Black6spdZ:
I see alot of the Hima guys are using the 64/64 rom.. whats the reasoning?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] xplode:
Black6spdZ all the new wm5 devices are with 64 ram, because it is enough for the os to run just fine, and we have 128
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Black6spdZ:
as it sits right not I just don't see the ramdisk utilized to that extent.. I may start installing software there for a little extra speed.. can we move the sms saves there as well? The least amount of writes that have to be made to the rom the faster it gets.. if you read that page I posted several posts back it explains it in detial. I am really looking forward to this ROM and I'm sure others are with me on that note
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
64 mb ram is pretty much enough and you can have the rest as storage space.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
Re: buttom hardware

i made my own reg files with the 'correct' button settings, but it still doesnt work unless you do the above, no idea why atm.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
probably :oops:

what are the reg entries for that? mine dont seem to work

i did, it doesnt do it for some reason, most of the bugs are 'fixed' they just dont work when flashed.

will do :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
so far, this is a list of all the bugs (i think) so we know hat to go about fixing

Extended_ROM - in mine only, helmi_c could you send me the correct settings/oem package?

StartMenu Slow

Slow WMPlayer performance

Wireless Stereo profile

No Windows Media Player in Programs

No Wifi in Comm manager

Error reporting is enabled by default

Brightness slider does nothing

the absence of some tweaks and Ramdisk.

Hardware Buttons - various errors, mainly camera (probably just in mine) and the random 'couldn't find shortcut'

MSN - getting fix from Ivan hopefully (i seem to remember that when in ivan rom we upgraded msn messenger to a new version from a UNI we had the same problem and had to replace a dll with one from wizard or something like that.

Easy to turn phone to Flight mode, but it is more difficult to re-enable phone again (press the button twice)

In Setting - System - Power:

I could only see the main battery power remaning, Backup battery power remaining was dissapeared.

In Setting - System - About:

Processor information displayed as blank and also information about memory.

do any of you guys here have irc/msn/icq etc?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
does the Blue Angel 64MB RAM / 64MB RAMDisk ROM actually work?

the Blue Angel 96MB RAM / 32MB RAMDisk doesnt for me...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Nope, I was stuck on the white screen.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] spkr4thdd:
bepe,

it seems that the ramdisk versions of your ROM have an issue, we all seem to be getting stuck at the 'white screen' after flashing a ROM built with any of the RAMDisk versions... any ideas?

The ROM creates OK, but after flashing if you do the format hive/storage, it locks on white screen, and just a soft reset locks on the 4 colour screen...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
so it's not just me then, i'll continue adding the ramdisk manually then.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] spkr4thdd:
Performance...

Midget, I was going to post here saying that the perf of your ROM drags once a handful of apps are installed...

However I have just disabled error reporting and the difference is quite staggering... it must grab a serious amount of resources, so of your list above I would say that this is a fix that will provide a significant improvement (along with the RAMDisk of course, if we can get it to work!)

Of the other items you listed I have the following comments...

Start Menu - Like you I've had no issues with this, with or without the Notifications tweak...

WMPlayer - Nothing new there then! (I hardly use it anyway, tend to go for TCPMP or GSPlayer)

No WiFi in Comms Manager - Personally I'd rather have the BTIcon and WiFi tray applets...

Wireless Stereo Profile - A well known issue, and one that I think we'll need to work on for a while to fix

PocketMSN - I'm sure there's a working version out there somewher (I think I had it working with one from Ivan or Logout?), and don't a lot of people use Agile/IM+ or some other 3rd Party app?

Buttons - This should just be a quick fix imo, we just need to get the reg entries from a working one and incorporate into the new build.. (don't we?!)

Backlight - There's a couple of posts on this thread about it, and an alternative backlight cab/file which is supposed to work...

Power - Is the backup battery omitted as it's redundant in WM5 due to the non volatile storage... (just a thought!)

About - OS is also missing... I believe these are all just rgu entries (or perhaps an OEM pkg!)

Overall, I find this ROM very stable, and once we get a RAMDisk working it'll fly... of all the issues above the only one I really want sorted is A2DP, but I'm considering a flash of TuMa 1.4 which had the A2DP working and getting the reg entries etc from that and building an OEM pkg... (unfortunately it'll have to wait till I'm back from work so will be much later tonight :( )
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] logout:
I used old nk.nba then edit in Hex rom work OK, new nk.nba don't work
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] MicMeo:
In order to help everyone have a chance to reach to your new AKU 2.3 ROM for BlueAngel, I've created a mirror for all ROMs I found in this topic.

Please get those ROMs from this address in case of speed trouble when downloading form primary address.

http://micmeo.com/BlueAngel

Currently Tools & ROMs on my host:

Bepe-ROM_2.00a.32_Blue_Angel(96MB RAM-32MB RAMDisk).rar 22.5 MB Jul-12-06
Midget-WM5_Midget.v1.1.zip 29.2 MB Jul-13-06
Thingonaspring-AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_2.zip 26.2 MB Jul-13-06
Tools-AKU_2.3.rar 14.3 MB Jun-29-06
Tools-AKU_2.3_WWE_UPX_beta.rar 2 MB Jun-29-06
Tools-DEV_BA_beta.rar 2.2 MB Jul-11-06
Tools-ROM_BA_beta.rar 22.5 MB Jul-11-06

Hope we will soon have a perfect AKU 2.3 Rom for BA.

Thank you.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
thats exactly what im doing :P

edit: found the problem in the ramdisk versions: in /rom/ the nk.nba hasnt been hex edited, so the ramdisk and RAM were trying to use the same space :P

i'm just testing it then ill upload the fixed versions.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bepe:
Sorry, I had no BA to test that... but I did the hex edit...

Perhaps I did something wrong, so please use the 2.00a.00 version, cos that one is not hex-edited...

Could someone help me to create the 32 and 64 versions.

List of HEX-addresses and values would be nice…
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] remixme:
Been testing AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_2 again,

Seems things like the Roaming LED being on in flight mode and

Media player stuttering, are common problems between this rom and Midgets v1.1 Beta.

But the speed of AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_2 with error reporting turned off is really good.

Off to test Helmi's Rom now, anyone needs a private ROM tester, drop me a PM.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] remixme:
Tested Helmi's Rom:

Roaming LED being on in flight mode bug is present, as is Media player stuttering.

The Backlight slider does nothing.

Wireless seems barely Okay; although there is an annoying today flicker when it is searching for networks sometimes. And the whole device slows to a crawl when active, and actually becomes a bit unstable, I noticed at least one hard crash.

Camera: Stills and Video work fine at first glance, but there is a bug where the camera display gets rotated 90 degress, at least one other person has noticed this.

It is reproducable:

Go into Camera, take a photo, view it in album, then hit close and load the camera again. You'll find the display rotated 90 degrees;

I loaded the camera using the icon, and the button, you'll find if you try and take a photo with the the display rotated it will fail.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] spkr4thdd:
@logout

any chance you could upload your test rom? at least so that we can compare the bugs between the different roms... i see from your images at the start of this thread that you have wifi showing in the comms manager, which is something noone else has managed to do...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] emwede:
@midget_1990

Hi midget just tested your tonughts stuff 20060712-2303 and it has is the slowest startmenu I ever had on this device. Any recomendations how to fix that?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] bepe:
I've fixed the 32 MB ROM package, should be ok now.

Please let me know whether it’s working or not...

The 64 MB version was already ok
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] spkr4thdd:
Re: Performance...

Quoting myself is lame I know, but...

Do you guys think this will work? If we're working on an AKU2.3 ROM and TuMa's was AKU1 with 'other bits' will the registry settings/dll's that worked with that ROM be portable to the new ones?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] KTamas:
Flashing a clean 64/64 ROM now, I hope it works...

Edit: stuck @ white screen again :( trying the new 96/32 soon.

Edit2: 96/32 is stuck @ white screen too.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] emwede:
souns off works fast

Hi, it realy ist true what was written above, the "slow startmenu" problems are solved as soon as you set al sound notifications in setting to "OFF"
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] spkr4thdd:
@midget

have you managed to get the RAMDisk ROM's sorted?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
only 96/32, i/we dont know the correct hex values for the 64/64 one.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] emwede:
@bepe 32 version

Hi bepe, tried the 32MB RD Version from this afternoon (WITH GER LOC + AKU2.3) and get stuck on the 4color bar screen. Whereas the 00_RD Version works great for me (execept I got trouble with setting up certificates for push mail correctly - buts another story an OT here.)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] a771la:
now i working at wifi.... and it work :)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] spkr4thdd:
do you mean the wifi itself works or that you can control it from the conn manager app?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] thingonaspring:
Hi All,

New version of the TEST_PATCHED Rom is up here.

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/Blue Angel/AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_3.zip

WLan control panel now works. Please report if you can connect to a WLan or not.

Backlight control panel also works. Note that there are 2 backlight panels, if anyone can tell me how to get rid of the useless one, please do!

Stupid IE "-b" bug is fixed.

Speed is very much improved via the recommended fsreplstorecache, fatcache and datacache tweaks, plus modifications to the ati chipset timings.

Camera is broken, crashes on taking a picture. Fixing this now.

MSN messenger still not working, fixing this now.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] MicMeo:
Uploaded to

http://micmeo.com/BlueAngel/Thingonaspring-AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_3.zip

And started to flash...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] a771la:
wifi don't work :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] ThExSenatoR:
This is very strange guys. I also tried Helmi's rom, and I found that the best rom regarding to responsiveness and overall operating speed (feeling). I never had any lockups with Helmi's rom nor with AKU2.3_TEST_PATCHED_2 and Ramdisk was always working flawlessly, and never faced to the problem being stuck at the "white screen".

I hope, this project will be successfull, coz so many great guys are working on this rom for us (the community). Im sorry, but I'm unable to continue the testing at the moment, because I have to use my BA heavily until friday evening, so I can continue the testing tomorrow :)

Thumbs up !! :)