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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Ok 2.0 is up in the OP Enjoy!! :)

I'll also post the links here.

>>>>>>> DOWNLOAD BADSEEDS M8 STOCKISH ROOTED M8 ROM RLS 2.0 DOWNLOAD<<<<<<<

>>>>>>> DOWNLOAD BADSEEDS M8 STOCKISH ROOTED M8 ROM RLS 2.0 NO WIPE DOWNLOAD<<<<<<<​
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Knixson:
Thanks again flashed RLS 2.0 everything seems great so far no fcs that I have found thanks again BSC and Steal25.

Love the added menu button as well, GREAT job!!

Edited: When clicking the menu button added and I press personalize I get a "App not installed" toast. Anyone else getting that as well?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] solver404:
/itch
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
OK I see what your saying, I'll post a fix in the morning. Personalize is fine, it's just the shortcut in that menu.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Knixson:
Thanks a lot LOVE the ROM
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
Ok now I'm going to retry this Rom again. I had some nasty problems with the first release.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] fr0st420:
Loving the Rom. I have one problem though. I can't seem to get my dotview case to work.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] uh60james:
ART's not working for me on the latest build. Get stuck on splash screen after switching. Not sure if it's a ROM issue or not, going back to Dalvik until I have more time to mess with it.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] schmeggy929:
I don't think ART works on Deodexed ROMs.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] uh60james:
Well that would explain that then, thanks!
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] dsk00185:
Yes you can go into settings, accessibility, and turn off last pass.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
The only thing I see is the the three dots in the camera

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
i think I forgot to add the menu button to the no wipe zip, ill add a flashable for it in post 2 as well as a fix for a few dimens and homepersonalize opeing in the homescreen menu both in prism

itll be labled 2.0 fixes.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Here you go this will add the menu button and a few dimens and homepersonalize shortcut in homescreen menu.

2.0 FIXES

this will be in post 2 also
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
I used no wipe and it's in there.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] fr0st420:
I'll flash the fixes zip and see if dot view works now.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Knixson:
Works GREAT....Thanks for all your hard work
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] knightwolf123:
If i may be so bold as to ask, what are the changes from v1 to v2? I'm on v1 and everything works so good I'm hesitant to flash again lol
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] fr0st420:
No dice. I'm going to check our the default.xml. I thought I saw something in there about dotview
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] KennyG123:
Arrrrgh! Won't be home for hours to download and flash this hot potato! Thanks Steal!

Is the hotspot hack in this too?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
The three dots in camera are there. Anyone else have it.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] buckhunter:
I have the menu button on launcher and cam. Only issue I had was the personalize from homescreen
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] volk9029:
Version 2 is on the new software version 1.54.651.8

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I do. It's like that on sprint' rom as well.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
then it was the wipe zip i forgot to add it in, one or the other. but the fix zip will fix it.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Opman711:
Speaking of Hotspot (if it's hacked in v2) ... Anyone else having an issue turning native hotspot on? Off slider flashes to on position then immediately back. Everything else is running great.

Love me my BadSeed
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
Oh, and by the way, thanks again for putting such quality work into what you do.

This type of attention to detail and precision is greatly appreciated.

I was curious about something I noticed on this phone though...not just your build....why are there two sync settings in the stock pull down?

Also, what is the fingerprint scanner for?

Thanks again.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
one is sync all now and the other is to turn auto sync on/off

about the hotspot hack i havent added it in yet. It will make in the next release
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
Not sure you've seen it. Go into edit the settings of the larger stock quick settings, and you'll see a "sync all", and TWO "sync's".

I tried applying both, but only one shows up.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Knixson:
I can't wait thanks. I might suffer an anxiety attack waiting with anticipation lmao
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] l1ttl3z:
I was having problems towards the end of 1.2 so I wiped and tryed to flash v2 ... It gets abt a quarter of the way and reboots and when I check I'm still on v1.2... I tryed both no wipe and the wipe one.. is there something I'm missing? A new recovery or sometging?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
Sorry. It wouldn't let me edit.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] cracker0309:
I can't remember if I asked this question or not so I apologize if I did in advance.

Does the M8 allow you to be on a call and browse the internet at the same time? My LTE meet me.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
It did while I was on Wi-Fi. Not sure about data.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] cracker0309:
It don't seem to work for me while on data. Kinda sucks since I drive or ride in a truck all day.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] volk9029:
I have two sync as well. I didn't have a problem editing quick settings. Did you flash anything else besides rom?

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
No, no, no. I mean it wouldn't let me edit my post for the screen shot.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
Man I have alot of wallpapers but they all get cut off where the homescreen buttons. I know it's not rom related.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
Volk, it looks like you have screenshot available through your Nav bar. How?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] KennyG123:
It does not have that capability. The last Sprint phone to have SVDO capability was the S3 if I am not mistaken. There may be something down the line in the Spark upgrades that may allow it but there will probably be an M9 by then.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] volk9029:
No, it is not screenshot. Unfortunately.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
Does anyone remember when the sense 6 was ported to the m 7 there was a fix to remove the three dots in the camera. It's not a big deal this Rom its great. I just want to know I wasn't crazy.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] MassStash:
Stock rom I'm on only has "auto

sync," and "sync all". But in EVO Lte, all customized QS on ports of 5.x have the two "sync" options, where only one shows up. Just info on the subject.

Why would you get rid of that? How do you get to settings then?

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BTW, any with camera/gallery issues have lastpass installed n setup? Guess there's a bug causing m8 cam to crash

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] 08tundra:
For some reason every time I try flashing 2.0 when I get to the point where it says writing system the phone reboots
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
No not the the 3 dot menu. It's three little dots setting at the bottom of the screen in the camera app.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] MassStash:
Oh, signifying where the nav bar buttons are? Never thought it to be that much an issue... Haha

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
Has anyone got gravitybox to work on this Rom. I keep getting gravitybox framework not responding then exits.

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I think theres a way to remove them from the build prop or default xml.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] dazednconfused:
Mine was doing that on the stock rooted and a reboot fixed it after selecting the module. Then I could go in and make my changes.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] fr0st420:
Ok I got dotmatrix working. I had to convert it to a system app. It works now.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] nickmilla15:
Quick question, which version of the rom is the 2.0 fixes zip for?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] SwaggaSnatcha:
You answered yourself 2.0
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] nickmilla15:
Haha is that a joke? I meant was it for the no wipe or wipe version.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] SwaggaSnatcha:
here you go.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] nickmilla15:
Is that the answer? I'll just flash it regardless. Thanks man
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Thanks for investigating that, I don't have the case to test with. I'll add it system/app in next release
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] nickmilla15:
Hey man, I know you're very busy crafting fantastic roms for this device, us a job and family, but if you get a little down time can you check your pm?

Thanks man,

Nick M.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
It a has a full wipe built in because at this point everyone has and odexed rom on there devices. this being deodexed I feel a full wipe is neccessary. the next version(if possible will be an aroma build so you will then have a choice

Heres a flashable to fix the onscreen nav bar

NAV BAR BUTTONS

What happened was this was gonna be an aroma build with the on screen buton option but apperantly aroma isnt working on our twrp version.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] stacksptdtdm:
Oh ok. Yea the recovery is dinky. Do you by any chance have a Sprint m8 stock recovery.img ? Want to give it to philz to make a recovery for Sprint. It seems that his recovery is working well .
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] schmeggy929:
Thanks Steal25!
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Hidesquadron1:
Awesome! Thank you for the quick fix! :D

I'm curious... why would M8 users opt out of onscreen buttons? There is no alternative on this phone at all. Am I missing something?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] schmeggy929:
Some people may want to use mods like PIE. Where you touch a certain part of screen and a PIE menu pops up.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Hidesquadron1:
AH. that's right. Totally forgot about pie. Not a fan of it myself, but I get it.

Thanks again for the fix!
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] schmeggy929:
Navbar back button doesn't seem to work.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] stacksptdtdm:
I can confirm, back button doesn't work but it works in some apps

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Long press back button does kill app
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] ticklemepinks:
is there a way to get the keyboard notifiction to switch in pull down?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] adhusky:
Also in some apps where we have 3 dots menu next to the recent buttons which isn't working.

Thanks,
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Looking at this right now, probably need to reconfigure the LP Back2Kill mod

here you go

ADD IME CHOOSER BACK W/ NAV BAR

also added to post 2
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] klbjr:
Did you guys add the Flashlight and Calculator apps back in and does this ROM fix the stupid Kit Kat SD card security feature?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] schmeggy929:
Yes all three are in ROM. :D
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] MassStash:
I can't even make a solid backup of my slightly modded stock Rom, that makes me comfortable enough to wipe full and flash this haha

+1 odex priority. Me likey ART

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] schmeggy929:
Captain_Throwback and simonsickle both said they should have stable recoverys today.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] MassStash:
Oh really? Hadn't seen that yet. Last I read sick said Monday hopefully I thought

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] stacksptdtdm:
Philz just made one for us. I backed up and restore with no problems
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] JT man:
Where is it?

Edit: found it thanks...
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] worthmr:
ugh, can't get out of bootloader/ recovery

My phone keeps rebooting into bootloader. I can get into recovery, but that is it. If I factory reset, it goes back to bootloader

Any help?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] JT man:
Wipe, flash again and see...
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Killer-B:
Rom running smoother than butter, well done again
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] kidram:
What's your icon pack ?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Sloth:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=stealthychief.icon.pack.stealth
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] stacksptdtdm:
May I ask what did you use to install the icon pack?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Sloth:
I personally use Unicon...which I think requires exposed.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Killer-B:
i use Unicon

+1

And here is my app drawer ?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
I cannot get gravitybox to work for anything. Framework not responding WTH

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Killer-B:
Its not ment for sense roms, they even say it .
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] FusionX:
Any way to disable the screen off long press volume buttons? I keep activating music even when not in a music app when putting the phone in my pocket... Otherwise, stellar ROM!

Sent from my HTC Evo 4G LTE
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
I got gravitybox to work.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Beherrschen:
Any advice or tips on how you did it? I had no problems with it working on 1.2.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
Sure what I did was install the apk then go to xposed and hit update the framework then reboot

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Beherrschen:
Lol... Could you break that down into a simpler how to? Maybe with a video tutorial? Ha ha. Thanks. I'll be trying 2.0 now that it seems gravity box is fine with it. I held off when I saw people complain it wouldn't work.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
Lol my bad. I had xposed installed already. I dl the gravitybox apk then installed it. Then I went to xposed and clicked the box for gravitybox. Then go to xposed and update the framework. Then reboot. After reboot go to gravitybox.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
No one else have these three dots at the bottom of the camera screen View attachment 2681875

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] donc:
Method I have them. I have not had a chance to apply the 2.0 fixes yet. Flashed from the full wipe version of the rom.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
Ok just making sure I'm not the only one

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I flashed the fix zip but that doesn't remove the dots.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] volk9029:
Those 3 buttons on the bottom left are camera settings. If you turn the phone upright they will be on the top left. This is how it comes originally from htc.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] KennyG123:
[MENTION=3680138]steal25[/MENTION] Thank you sir! All bugs I had are squashed...love the added menu button and the smoothness! You have made me decide to keep this phone rather than return it for the S5...bare with me all as I am an HTC noob!
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Bachatu:
I'm not sure if a solution has been posted already but I finally found a way to fix this!!!! It has been driving me nuts.

Yesterday while I was in a meeting with another administrator once again the phone music went off in my pocket this time playing Bob Marley's We Jammin'. I honestly though it was someone else playing music until I realized it was me. The M8 strikes again!

Enough of that and on to the crude solution I found. You will need to download and install Xposed Framework and the Alpha Sense 6 Toolbox. Once you have both running Open the Sense 6 toolbox and go to:

Control mods > scroll down to "Volume Down long press action" and select next or previous track.

This will finally stop your phone from playing music by pressing the volume down button while your screen is off.

I hope this helps because it has made me a happy camper now!!

This ROM makes my phone fly!!!

Sent from my HTC DarkM8Knight
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
In the next release I can add entries to a. Prop somewhere to turn things on/off. We're working on adding a tweaks app but that will probably be added to our official badseed tranquil rom.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
It's there a way to disable it right now, that wouldn't mess with track skipping while music is playing?

Just turning off the volume button to start music would be huge.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] xadidas4lifex:
Yo. Will the Harman/Kardon audio menu be added to this ROM?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Bachatu:
So far it hasn't messed with music while playing. It only skips tracks if I long press and that doesn't seem to be a bad thing.

Sent from my HTC DarkM8Knight
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
I can add the menu easily, but the eq isn't working just yet, me and zeroinfinity have been looking into it. Maybe when the HK m8 drops we can use the files from ir to get it working properly.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] xadidas4lifex:
Ok cool. So it's just like how everyone used to pull the beat libs and use them for everything on every device?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Yeah, it's already incorporated in all the frameworks, we just need the proper few to tie it all in.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] METHOD1911:
I just took mine off. I'll wait until it's really working on this Rom. Steal does that go for the music channel thing to

Edit. Steal I forgot to ask you can make the power saver icon gone.

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
Is anyone able to get the HTC remote control to work?

Also, missing ability to use microphone in keyboard.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Yeah I'll remove music channel from qs till I figure out how to get it working, ill also remove

the power saver notification as well.

Microphone is working fine on stock and swift key for me.did you enable it in settings?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] kidram:
I'm just getting a sound enhancement force close anybody know why?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
A log would be the only way to figure it out.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mcwups1:
Don't know how it got disabled, but that fixed the microphone.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] uh60james:
Music channel works, just needs to be set to true in default.xml
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] simonsickle:
Has anyone gotten LTE native hotspot (or even any other kind of hotspot)? I can only get it on EvDO it appears
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Captain_Throwback:
It seems to work with the app JB WiFi Tether from the Play Store. That app appears to patch the native tethering interface so that it works on both 3G and LTE. I think a few people confirmed it.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Ph33zy:
4G on native tether ewill work for sure if you run it with script manager:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51786725&postcount=1&nocache=1&z=9912327309139072

I haven't been able to get it to work without using script manager, but I'm sure steal will figure it out. I'm still on the stock ROM, so maybe that's the problem.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
I just noticed the init.d scripts are not being executed, if they were the 01badseed script wouldn't be there. I have init.d support in the ram disk so i can't understand why they aren't running. I'll do some testing and see what I can figure out. This might be the cause of the tether not working great because I have the in an init.d script.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Captain_Throwback:
If you figure it out, let me know, as I've been stumped on it myself.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] MassStash:
Used the line in the install-recovery.sh since init.d stopped working in boot.img

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] knightwolf123:
Ok I installed V2.0 last night and the ONLY thing bugging me is the music player doesn't play all the time. I noticed now there is added controls for the harmon kardon setup but they do nothing at this time.

Has anyone else had trouble with player and what is a workaround or fix for the issue? Thanx ??
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
There shouldnt be any harmon-Kardon controls in settings, Did you flash a mod on top of the rom?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] knightwolf123:
Just a few exposed modules but nothing that should effect sounds.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
The Pandora in the rom is good :)

That's weird because enabling Harmon Kardon will mess with sounds, but I don't have it enabled. You can find it in acc/default and change it to false if it's true.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] knightwolf123:
Just changed it to false and now it's gone and back to normal. ? Thanx
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Cool but strange because its not enabled in the rom at all.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] ricersniper:
Where is the 5x6? I looked and can't find it and searched the post and didn't see anything. Please and thank you.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] volk9029:
Open app drawer, click 3 dots ,change grid size.

Sent from my lair.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] ricersniper:
That's what I figured. I dint have that though. I have the three dot but not that option. Looks like I may need to reflash. the 3 dot didn't work there or the

Home screen
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
What version did you flash of 2.0? Also did you flash something over the rom? You may not need to flash the whole Rom over just flash the 2.0 fixes in post 2
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] ricersniper:
I had wiped and installed fresh. I had not installed the fix yet. I installed the fix and the menus were still not coming up. I had the three dot but when clicked it wouldn't open anything. I installed it again over top of what was there flashing both the 2.0 and the 2,0 fix. It resolved the issue. Must say I like your work. Keep it going.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
2.1 is up in the OP, I'll post here also, Enjoy :)

>>>>>>> DOWNLOAD BADSEEDS M8 STOCKISH ROOTED M8 ROM RLS 2.1 DOWNLOAD<<<<<<<

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[Sprint HTC One (M8)] bdutton:
Downloading now. Picking up the phone tomorrow. I did the same thing with my EVO LTE. Downloaded the Bad Seed Rom (I think Tranquility) before I bought the phone. Can't wait to try this out.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] itc518:
Do we need to do a full wipe coming from 2.0 to 2.1?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] mrshades812:
No you do not. If you have any issues, then wipe away! :)
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] donc:
weird. I flashed 2.1 and now I am not showing my exsd card. Internal sd is ok. reflashed the full wipe again and same issue. Going to try the no wipe one and see if I see the same thing.

Edit: only showing internal SD when plugged into the PC. I have to go into TWRP to see the exSD where I had copied 2.1 one upon download.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] knightwolf123:
Ok so I finally figured how I kept getting the harmon kardon in my settings. I was using the zip from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2712222 to get the wifi tether. Would it be possible to incorporate it into your default.xml so I can keep the music channel and have the script to? Thanx ?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
yes i can, but those edits have been in the rom since the beggining. does wifi tether work without flashing that zip?

for the guy with sdmount errors did you get it sorted out, i havent heard of those errors from anyone. let me know and we can can you sorted out.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
what size sdcard do you have?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] donc:
64GB. Same issue after flashing again last night. Thanks Steal
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] Captain_Throwback:
I assume you guys are insmodding texfat.ko for proper exFAT support (I talked briefly to TL about this a couple days ago)?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] steal25:
Ill get this fixed up this morning, I'll post new rom zips in a couple hours.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] 2k4mach:
glad to see the 4g icon back instead of that spinning wheel, i hated that from the moment i got this phone.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] FusionX:
Awesome!

Any way to have an option to keep the data icon showing while on wifi? Is it an easy mod? What about screen on with SMS, too?

Small details, I know :) The ROM is very nice.
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] metalfan78:
Hey steal25, I want to give your rom a run, should I wait for the new zip to be posted before I download?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] l1ttl3z:
Is anyone having problems turning on WiFi after 2.1? B
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] ycats:
so the links have been updated?
[Sprint HTC One (M8)] metalfan78:
Not sure, that's basically what I was wondering.