yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Fire TV General] destinal:
As a update to my earlier post about Firefox, there are a couple of serious issues, the biggest of which is that the on-screen keyboard hides the browser window below and can make it very difficult to login to some websites. For casual browsing it's still very decent and hopefully we'll be able to change keyboards at some point when using a physical keyboard.

It's really useful for me having a wireless USB keyboard (logitech k520) with special function buttons like back, forward, power off, recent apps, and especially the settings key which works like the settings button on an android device. I don't know how I'd get into settings for Firefox or N64oid without it.
[Fire TV General] thessalian:
Would you mind telling me what apk you were using for HBO Go? This one doesn't respond to the Fire remote or my keyboard in such a way that ever lets me get to the point of signing in.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48887245&postcount=3327
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
That's the only reason HBO Go isn't on Fire TV yet. The UI needs to be changed. You need a keyboard with a touchpad/mouse. You need to move the cursor over spots and click the mouse/touchpad. even after getting initial login setup, you still need to use keyboard/mouse/touchpad to navigate around, the Fire TV remote won't get you far.
[Fire TV General] thessalian:
Ahh, thanks. I only have a KB connected so far. (Android newb, I've mostly been trying to help out the xbmc effort; got the Fire in ongoing search for holy grail xmbc box.)
[Fire TV General] destinal:
Thanks, I was able to get that working.

That build uses an external player (MX player) to play video. I installed MX player, then installed the custom codec to get DTS audio playback working and now I've got full speed 1080p video playing. I'd prefer to use the internal XBMC video player, but this is a good start for now.
[Fire TV General] xaudiblex:
In case anyone was curious of what other keyboard/mouse combos work, I got my Lenovo Mulitimedia Remote N5902 to to function. Works great with it!

As for Miracast, I haven't had any luck mirroring any non-Amazon devices... :(

Working App(s):

Mozilla FireFox nightly (Works but some menu's aren't accessible)

XBMC 12.3 (Works good with live stream plug-in's like Hulu)
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
awesome, thanks man. Im adding it to the list of working hardware and of course giving you credit. Trying to consolidate all this information coming from here at XDA and xbmc.org on the Original Post so we dont get repeated answers and what works and what doesnt.
[Fire TV General] rsohne:
Wired Xbox 360 controller also works.
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
added to list, thanks. Can you try a PS3 controller?
[Fire TV General] tensuke:
The PS4 controller (dualshock 4) works over usb. With bluetooth it pairs but never actually connects. You can use the d-pad to navigate, Square for 'enter', and X for 'Back'. I think L3 and R3 act as back/menu, as well?

It works in epsxe, just choose the Sony Controller for input 1 and it maps the buttons/sticks correctly. It doesn't work in Riptide though because no button accelerates. Those are the only things I've tried so far.
[Fire TV General] Mahapralaya:
anyone have a system dump? I'm looking to play around with some of the default APKs....specifically com.amazon.html5.webcrypto.tz
[Fire TV General] badxmaru:
stuff that works sideloaded

onlive apk with the controller patch - (onlive-1_3-controller-patch-zathu)

works with amazon controller, playing deus ex.

*edit* not 100% sure if it will play - but could nav menus and stuff. have to go pick up kids so will test more when I get back.

Also HDHomerun users - 1.61 seems to install and scan and find my hdhomerun perfectly well.
[Fire TV General] alwaysbless:
Anyone found a way to fix the DPI for apps the appear zoomed in yet (Mine fit the screen but text is HUGE)? Also, anyone had luck with using null input method apps to hide the onscreen keyboard while using an external? Root is def gonna be needed to turn this thing in to a true TV box.
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
XBMC Video playback working perfectly on the Amazon Fire TV

720p,1080i,1080p, and possible DTS working

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rHL42krl7IA
[Fire TV General] nba1341:
Why is there no Fire TV section on xda?
[Fire TV General] mknrls:
I don't think they created section for it yet, so i guess its just a matter of time till they do
[Fire TV General] tomigonzo:
Are the 3rd party add ons (IceFilms, MushUP, NaviX, etc) are working well in XBMC on FTV?? (streaming, etc?)

thx
[Fire TV General] MistaEast:
Launcher

sideloaded Nova Launcher. look's and works as normal. hard to control with just remote. Would be cool if we could get a custom launcher that grants easy access to sideloaded apps. more random/interesting apk's to be tested.

*edit* Nova Launcher works well with my Razer Death Adder USB Mouse (i assume it works with other usb mice as well) i was able to use my sideloaded PocketCast app well with the mouse.
[Fire TV General] bearxor:
Wanted to report that the wireless X360 controller with the USB receiver works.

When you plug it in, it goes a little crazy in the menu but stops after a few seconds. The light on the receiver stays on all the time and the green circle on the controller always flashes, but I played Riptide with it for several minutes and didn't have an issue.
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
plugins work fine. not going to create a list of illegal apps.
[Fire TV General] skinlab133:
Can you tell me what APK you're using for the HD HomeRun? I've got one installed, but I'm unable to navigate any channels or anything. The app loads up and it just automatically starts streaming "Channel 3." Looks great, btw! Just need a way to change channels :)
[Fire TV General] tomigonzo:
ok, thank you, and i'am sorry !
[Fire TV General] scuzzo:
Has any one tried to side load tha amazon app store... perhaps it may be a way about this awfull curated situation untill we get root and a real google app store... also...

where the heck can one find apk files to side load? every link i have tried for fire fox comes up bust... im sure im missing some trick.,
[Fire TV General] Jersey846:
There should have been days ago.
[Fire TV General] whoamanwtf:
Should add to the list Moga Pro controller works perfectly, syncs through the settings just like the amazon controller and even works with games like Sev Zero, it has the exact same button configuration as the Amazon controller.
[Fire TV General] thessalian:
In my noobishness I've been trying to figure this out too. I can't figure out where some of the stuff referenced in this thread comes from, but I did find this:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2392504

And following links from there I found this:

http://nightly.mozilla.org/

Haven't actually tried it though.

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Thanks for this. I can verify that this build finally gets the video playback where it should be. I do have a receiver, but I'm also very audio-ignorant and my files are sourced from wherever. That said, if I do enable the digital audio options, some of my files either don't play audio, or play for a minute and then drop out; one specifically is supposed to have Dolby digital surround. My system is 5.0, with a lower-end Onkyo. If anyone wants to point me to any test video files and tell me what settings you want used, I could give it a shot.

In short, I think we do have working, snappy video in this one, but questionable audio support.

Thanks again for getting us onto this build and providing the video, it's nice to know XBMC video playback *can* run smoothly on the FireTV.
[Fire TV General] Montisaquadeis:
Ok here are some test files that tend to cover all the bases. The birds one will stress the video playback of the device while the others are a bit more manageable pay attention to the Monster one as it has a DTS audio track. All of these are smaller then 200mbs http://www.auby.no/files/video_tests/
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
It plays DTS perfectly but what i havent been able to test is if it passes it to the av receiver as well. IM packing up all my last ouya (keeping my 2 madcatz mojos) and its going on craigslist.
[Fire TV General] MistaEast:
I got my apks using lucky patcher as well as some xda threads offering apks for different programs. (pretty sure that's where I got my Firefox... From the nexus 7 thread)

Also side note, a side loaded 2048 works with the remote. You just have to click back and then relaunch the application whenever you lose.
[Fire TV General] MicroMod777:
Subscribe....
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
Android TV

http://www.theverge.com/2014/4/5/5584604/this-is-android-tv

just cancelled my second amazon fire tv. will wait for the android TV to come out.
[Fire TV General] xdask:
firefox and flash

could some please provide a link for the apk files for firefox and flash that is working on fire tv ?

also, does it matter which order they are installed ?
[Fire TV General] MicroMod777:
Where's the kit Kat roms or cyanogen to install?? :) Maybe an Ouya Rom??? ;)
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
Yes!! That would be great
[Fire TV General] d1same:
Is there a way to move side-loaded apps to the homepage or apps section?
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
I wish... I guess with app launcher but i havent tried yet
[Fire TV General] Syk69:
Thanks for this! Was so disappointed with the Amazon Fire TV when I couldn't get DTS/DD through HDMI on any of my movies using Plex Media Server. The Plex client just refuses to pass anything but Stereo and was using virtual surround. But tried out the xbmc for ouya and now I can see my movies with DD/DTS and no dropped frame rates on full bluray rips either! Wired connection of course.

Would be sweet to have a media player that could decode all audio formats including TruHD and DTS-HD MA to my old HDMI receiver which doesn't decode the HD audio formats but can easily take multi channel PCM :)

Can't wait till the plex app is improved and even future development on this little box.
[Fire TV General] skinlab133:
Install MX Player and the Arm V7 Neon DTS custom codec. Then select 3rd party player in Plex. Voila, 5.1 DTS via plex on the Fire. Works perfectly.
[Fire TV General] Syk69:
I actually tried that. I am only getting stereo output being up mixed by my receiver to virtual 5.1 surround. Not true DD/DTS. Did you use optical? Because I'm using HDMI only. Also it drops frames on high bitrate files.
[Fire TV General] alwaysbless:
Why post that if your sig says you wont help ppl root =/ its a slap in the face!
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
Awesome news, cant wait to see the instructions
[Fire TV General] jcase:
I wish reading comprehension was focused on more in today's educational establishments. Let me help you with that.

The "Do Not email me" part indicates I don't wish to receive email on the subject.

I posted an image, because I am preparing the package for release right now.

*edit*

I see you edited your original rude comment,

No, slap in the face is the entitlement and rudeness I get from people like you, simply because I don't want personal emails on a subject that could be handled with a PM, or a public forum post.

Instead of waiting for me to finish a releasable, easy to use exploit for it (which I am working on from my hotel room right now), you decide to jump on me for a simple request regarding email in my signature.
[Fire TV General] alwaysbless:
I did edit the original yes after reading in more detail. But your sig make you seems like someone unwilling to help just 2c Im glad obviously to see it isnt that way. And entitlement? Not so much as impatience, this thing will be rooted regardless of if you publish your method or not its a dang on android device!
[Fire TV General] ralphkaz:
Has anyone figured out if a wireless xbox 360 controller can be paired with the firetv?
[Fire TV General] jcase:
My sig is quite clear to anyone taking time to read it, it asks that root related questions not be asked by email.
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
it can with the dongle
[Fire TV General] bkdg100:
jcase you r the man

jcase ignore the ignorants , your efforts are greatly appreciated by the rest of us.
[Fire TV General] radiohead7778580:
Very nice jcase let me know if you need any help
[Fire TV General] bkai:
Maybe he wants you to capitalize and quote "email" with a few underlines, repeated at least 3 times, and a picture of what email looks like? ;)
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
Awaiting root so I can try some input touchscreen tap x y commands from adb shell on sideloaded apps that only work with touchscreens :)
[Fire TV General] Ryphez:
Awesome work Jcase! Can't wait to try it out on my device!
[Fire TV General] jcase:
This should be possible without root??
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
I guess it doesn't have an effect on the app I am trying to use then: SiliconDust HomeRun View. On a phone/tablet, a tap makes the UI show... can't get it to show on Fire TV, so I can't change channels. I'm pretty sure I tried it in other places/apps as well, and didn't see anything happen; which is why I assumed I it might need root.

edit: just tried it again when the screen saver going while on the homescreen. It didn't stop the screen saver, but direction buttons, or presses on the remote do. Also tried it just at the home screen, nothing.

but the following works:

input trackball press

I guess it can't emulate touchscreen commands :confused:

edit2: but nothing seems to interact with this touchscreen based app :(

edit3: the only function of the Fire TV remote that works with this app is the menu key, and input keyevent 82 also brings up the menu... is it possible certain event's are filtered somehow?
[Fire TV General] nba1341:
Hello I got TWC TV installed from XDA but am not able to get it to work with stock remote I have to use a keyboard remote.

Is your TWC TV working with the amazon fire tv remote?
[Fire TV General] tensuke:
You could just plug in a mouse. :P
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
I tried that. Mice, keyboards w/trackpad, ect. They work in some other apps, but not the one I am trying to use (SiliconDust HomeRun View). I guess I gotta wait a year for SD to release an updated app.

edit: I even tried modding the apk, but dunno what I am doing. When I rebuild it, the app doesn't function correctly. Since the 'menu' button works, I tried replaced the code for that xml with that from the one for changing channels, but it then the app went into a launch/close loop when I tried :(
[Fire TV General] georgieff:
You need to use mouse or keyboard for now.
[Fire TV General] postermen:
Does it display in 1080p?
[Fire TV General] tensuke:
Yep. I've moved on to epsxe for PSX and snes9x ex+ for snes as they both work without hassle (fpse had control issues and gnes was a pain to get controls set up).
[Fire TV General] georgieff:
BTW you can stream youtube video from iOS as a Chromecast.
[Fire TV General] whoamanwtf:
Why does the FireTV not have it's own section yet? I would guess it has sold more than the Mojo, Ouya, and Shield combined already...
[Fire TV General] MicroMod777:
Maybe one of the moderators needs to have the device???
[Fire TV General] whoamanwtf:
Well then, sign me up... We need to get this organized!
[Fire TV General] HemRoyd:
:good: Looks like it has its own section to me:

http://xdaforums.com/fire-tv
[Fire TV General] mickliq:
nevermind, thread already moved!
[Fire TV General] evilracer123:
http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html?nodeId=201452680

Great job Amazon ...

EDIT: Also seems to have some interesting pad on the mb:

http://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/eLJCXWQxVZauAOVp.huge
[Fire TV General] spinaldex:
Would someone be so kind to test "Folder Mount" and see if it will work to a USB Flash Drive? If we could expand the storage capacity this way it would be amazing!
[Fire TV General] toberg:
Have we tried sideloading StickMount?
[Fire TV General] matt314159:
I'm curious if you've tried HomeRunTV ?

I have a HDHomerun Prime (cablecard model) and would like to get that working on the FireTV. If I do that, I'll be able to ditch the old optiplex 745 I've been using and replace it with the tiny FireTV.
[Fire TV General] robneal81:
SNES9X EX+ installed without a problem for me, but how did you load roms?
[Fire TV General] MrMichaelJames:
So now that the source is released is it out of the question that a modified firmware could be created that allows these side loaded apps to appear on the main page?
[Fire TV General] dstruct2k:
With source code, we should be able to do anything we want to the device... Assuming there isn't some sort of bootloader-lockdown.
[Fire TV General] spinaldex:
I'm not sure how many are familiar with Folder Mount, but it allows moving applications from one mounted drive to another, such as a USB flash drive and then hooks in to the file system to redirect requests. So, if we had this, we could take something like Stickman to load the flash drive, and then move all the installed games one by one to the USB flash drive, and then have an insane amount of storage. With 500gb+ SSD drives in an external case, it would be awesome!
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
I'll give it a try for you, but personally I need SD's app to work (needs UI work), since it's the only one that has DTCP-IP and plays protected copy-once content.

edit: it works fine. just sideloaded it and mx player. plays HD channels good. Only issue is UI. On channel list, hitting OK button enters channel diag page, rather than tune... so you need a mouse to hit the play button.
[Fire TV General] matt314159:
Oh snap, I didn't realize that. Don't bother then.
[Fire TV General] Luxferro:
I tested that apps you wanted me to try. check back to my previous post, I edited it before I noticed you replied. If you want an app that has DTCP-IP, bug SD to fix their UI so it works on Fire TV: http://www.silicondust.com/forum2/viewtopic.php?f=79&t=16999

we need more people to show interest in their android app. with it, and their cablecard tuner, you don't need a cablebox or PC w/ WMC.
[Fire TV General] matt314159:
Thanks, I just chimed in over there.
[Fire TV General] jcase:
It is locked
[Fire TV General] TooSlo:
Quick question since people are testing accessories. Has anyone tried hooking any sort of USB hub to the Fire TV yet? Powered/unpowered doesn't matter. I'm curious as I'd like to have a keyboard/mouse tool as well as a 360 controller, and to see if I could hook up a USB thumb drive for immediate media consumption.

Many thanks to the people who are already testing out the device for the community. Thank you for creating a single place where we can consolidate the information on working accessories. I'll be happy to post anything I find once mine shows up on Wednesday.
[Fire TV General] phlunkie:
Apps that are working (needs at least a mouse to work. Using the keyboard and unifier from a revue)

Xfinity TV Go

Subsonic

Authomation

I got Nova launcher to run. Have to launch it through settings-app. It does see the extra stuff I added.

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i used a small unpowered usb hub that i pulled off my rpi to hook a keyboard and mouse and it worked.
[Fire TV General] AKay724:
Hi there I just did this and can chime in. I actually have my roms on Google Drive so I used ES File Explorer after sideloading that and copied to download folder from the cloud.
[Fire TV General] robneal81:
ES File Explorer worked perfect, thank you. SNES9X looks GREAT!
[Fire TV General] jeebuspwnz:
If by blu-ray remux you are talking about the same thing I think you are (ripped blu-rays with the SD video and unneeded audio streams stripped, then remuxed back to M2TS but without any recompression) then I have to say that XBMC for Ouya works for me to do this, and I can get the AC3 and DTS streams to play through)
[Fire TV General] sc0tty8:
I've used nearly every beta build for this box and no love for any 1080p media. Gets in about 20-30 seconds and just stops.:(
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
did you use the two version listed on the original post? XBMC for Ouya 12.3.2 or SPMC 12.3.3?
[Fire TV General] sc0tty8:
Yes, Booth.
[Fire TV General] garvani:
Need more information on the files your playing. Video format, profile and level.
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
most of my remux files are 1080p, AVC, DTS-HDMA, 5.1, or were you asking him?
[Fire TV General] garvani:
I did mean sc0tty8, it was a quote fail on my behalf, the xda forum makes you wait 5 minutes to be able to edit a post if your new and in that 5 minutes i got distracted and forgot to fix the quote.

However your only half way there with what you provided too, 1080p and Avc is really the only important information that you posted. Total Bitrate and what profile it was ripped at is far more important (such as High Profile 4.1). The firetv has a set limit on what profile it can play as well as total bitrate, go over this and you will get stuttering. It hasn't been established yet what the exact limit is. They have listed in the specs the theoetical maximum but the qualcom specs suggest it should be able to do almost double this.
[Fire TV General] Ramone360:
I see that MX player is working here. My question is does it play local files, mkv for example if I use a flash drive/ hard drive?
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
USB port is currently only good for connecting Mouse/Keyboards. It cannot be used for storage USB thumbdrives or External HDDs

Also saw people connect USB hubs with success
[Fire TV General] mejdam:
I'll test these two files when i get home.

Video #1

97mins Long

SPMC 12.3.3: Played video and audio perfectly (audio tested directly to tv on AV receiver)

XBMC for Ouya 12.3.2: Didnt play video or audio (audio tested directly to tv on AV receiver)

XBMC v13 beta 3: media off: Didnt play file (audio tested directly to tv on AV receiver)

Video

Format: AVC

Type: 1080p

Profile Level: High @ 4.1

Resolution: 1920x1080

Aspect Ratio:16/9

Bitrate: 33.5 Mbps

Bit Depth: 8 bit

Framerate: 23.976 fps

Audio

Codec: DTSHD-MA

Bitrate: 3768 kbps

kHz/bit: 24-bit

Channels: 5.1

Video #2

88mins Long

SPMC 12.3.3: didnt play video but audio work (audio tested directly to tv on AV receiver)

XBMC for Ouya 12.3.2: Didnt play video or audio (audio tested directly to tv on AV receiver)

XBMC v13 beta 3: media off: played video and audio but with lag (audio tested directly to tv on AV receiver)

Video

Format: VC-1

Profile Level: AP@L3

Resolution: 1920x1080

Aspect Ratio:16/9

Bitrate: 27.1 Mbps

Bit Depth: 8 bit

Framerate: 23.976 fps

Audio

Codec: TrueHD

Bitrate: 3069 kbps

kHz/bit: 48-bit

Channels: 6

SAMPLES

Living World Audio - DTS_HD_MA_7.1_1080_23.98p - SPMC 12.3.3 played, ouya version and gotham v13 beta 3 didnt play

Sphere v2 - Dolby_TrueHD_7.1_1080_23.98p - SPMC 12.3.3 played, ouya version and gotham v13 beta 3 didnt play

T2 - DTS_HD_MA_5.1_1080_29.97i - only sound, no video on any xbmc version i tested

Total Immersion - Dolby_Digital_5.1_1080_29.97p - SPMC 12.3.3 played, ouya version play and gotham v13 beta 3 play
[Fire TV General] drawde:
any way to access the xbmc files so i can used a shared mysql library? advancedsettings.xml, sources.xml, etc..

EDIT: i guess ES file explorer will let me pull them from a network share?
[Fire TV General] obscure.detour:
Shouldn't be a problem, however I haven't used ES in quite some time. Total Commander w/ samba plugin works great. Another solution is that you could just adb push the files over into the correct locations.
[Fire TV General] bkdg100:
ip camera apps ?

anyone try Tinycam pro or Ip cam viewer ?
[Fire TV General] bsell81:
Vudu

I was able to get the Vudu apk to work. I did however have to use my K400 for most of the Navigation.
[Fire TV General] ravindrank:
Strange..I plugged my 8 GB Sandisk cruzer and it gets detected as sda ...make me believe it detects USB pen drives..
[Fire TV General] Esso1001:
Hmm. Interesting
[Fire TV General] sc0tty8:
Any MKV at 1080p in my collection. plays about 20 seconds and then looooong pause, and then a few seconds, rinse/repeat.
[Fire TV General] skrowl:
The Microsoft Xbox Controller For Windows works perfectly (even the home button). You can even plug it in while the system is on.