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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Player-J:
I keep coming back to this ROM because I really like it. I think this is the best version yet. It's very snappy & responsive. I haven't installed the B14CKB1RD kernel, so I'll try that next to see how much of a difference it makes.

I have noticed a few minor issues...

1. The I/O scheduler keeps switching to bfq.

2. List view animation settings are not working (I haven't tried the other animations).

3. FC whenever I try to change the color of LED notification lights in custom values.

4. FC when accessing Init.d under Advanced options (works fine under Performance settings, don't even know why it's here).

No real deal breakers, so far. I'll probably stick with this one for a while. Again, thanks for all your hard work!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Oh, OK. I'm sorry for misunderstanding.

No, I didn't run any terminal commands to mount anything for the Xposed pre-install. I just keep restoring the Xposed installer from my most recent backup and re-running it, every time I want to re-install that framework under a new ROM.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
1.) Xposed will need that command to install properly..may also need to do the same for busybox

2.) This is after all a new android version...maybe a backup could be whats causing it...try a manual one time and it may fix it.

3.) I'll be glad to step by step you via a pm if necessary
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Found the cause.

Actually, I just now found the cause of the problem.

There is nothing wrong with Xposed nor busybox.

I use Tasker to initialize some settings after re-boot. Within the task that does this are a call to Secure Settings to turn off GPS and another call to Secure Settings to turn off Location monitoring. One or both of these Secure Settings calls messes up the Settings within LiquidSmooth.

I thought I disabled Secure Settings in an earlier test, but I made a mistake and was still running that app.

I still use Secure Settings to turn off Airplane Mode at re-boot, and that doesn't break anything with Liquid Smooth.

I want Location and GPS to always be forced off at re-boot, even if they were turned on prior to a previous shutdown, and this is why I put these procedures into my Tasker start-up task.

I'm hoping I can find another app which forces GPS and Location off after re-boot, even if they were turned on before shutdown.

In any case, I'll go forward with Xposed testing later on, given that I haven't even enabled it yet. No time now.

I'll report back later.

Thank you for all your attention and help.

PS: If I use the Xposed installer (downloaded from somewhere within XDA ... I forgot the link), it takes care of mounts, root access, etc.

PPS: OOPS. Not from XDA. Actually, here: http://dl-count.xposed.info/modules/de.robv.android.xposed.installer_v32_de4f0d.apk

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
1.) working on this though i will say ive been leaving it at bfq as it seems to run quite well for now

2.) I'll look into animations as well as the LED options (me thinks that it may be trying to mix with some s3 code)

3.) Init.d tweaks are still being worked on...gonna be attempting an update with some fixes here soon as well as that
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
I recommended to you flash blackbird, works much better!

The I/o works fine for me, are you checking the circle to the right after you select the one you want? Without doing that always come back to the default
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Player-J:
Yeah, I've got everything set to load at boot. I just flashed the blackbird kernel, so we'll see if the settings stick.

:confused: Question - I'm using a third party app to verify that my settings are staying the way I want. Why does one core CPU0 switch to my desired governor but the second core CPU1 remain at the default governor Wheatley? Shouldn't they both be the same? Is it beneficial to have them set differently? For now, I've used the app to set them both to Abyssplugv2. It seems to work well with my games but I want to take advantage of the power saving benefits of a hotplug governor.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
That's weird, the governor it's for the two cores.

I recommend you incredicontrol app, in playstore. Really good app to set and check if stay or not what you set [MENTION=5037435]REV3NT3CH[/MENTION] recommend before this app, he know the developer of I'm not wrong
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
My problem didn't get fixed, after all :(

Sadly, I'm wrong again.

i was having no problems with Settings->Notification drawer, as I described earlier, and so I just started using my phone normally with the LiquidSmooth ROM. I did not install Xposed, by the way.

Then, after maybe 10-15 minutes, I went back to check Settings->Notification drawer, just for the hell of it, and it crashed the Settings app. So obviously, I was mistaken once again about the actual cause of this problem.

I give up. There are too many variables to test (I have around 100 apps installed), and I just don't have the time to go through the painstaking debugging necessary to isolate the problem.

Since Carbon has never given me any problems, I've gone back to it. No crashes, no issues with Settings, no problems with Xposed, and it's an over-all stable and very usable ROM.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
i just find it odd that it only happens with you though....kinda a head scratcher at this point
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
It's got to be due to one or more of the 100+ apps I run ... or to some interaction between them.

That's why I give up. It will take me way too long to run through all the apps, and then maybe all of the possible interactions between the apps.

Since everything works fine under Carbon with that same collection of apps, and since you did such a good job with Carbon, I'm just happy to stick with it, at this point.

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PS: after writing my orginal "I give up" message, I did just a little more testing. As a result, I came up with two seemingly unrelated ways to cause that Settings->Notification drawer problem. At least they cause this error for me.

Start with a clean version of Liquid Smooth that doesn't run Xposed or Tasker or Secure Settings. Back up the ROM.

1. Restore that version of this ROM. Then, install the Xposed framework and reboot. Then, install the Complete Action Plus Xposed module. Then, reboot again. Then, go to Settings->Notification drawer. For me, Settings crashes.

2. Restore that version of the ROM. Then, install Secure Settings, and then enable System+. Then, install Tasker and set up a Task which is triggered at boot time, and which has two steps: (A) use Secure Settings to turn off GPS; (B) use Secure Settings to turn off Location monitoring. Then, reboot. Once that Tasker task runs, go to Settings->Notification drawer. For me, Settings crashes.

These are two, totally unrelated pieces of software (Tasker and Xposed) which trigger the same error.

Perhaps you can reproduce the problem in one or both of these ways. But if not, the mystery continues ...

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] sorgo:
I installed the 4.4.3 version today with full wipe and I'm getting settings FC each time when I try to set the notification light. Can pls anyone confirm this? Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Led lights is known and being worked on
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Are you using art or dalvik for runtime?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I never changed the Dalvik default.

Should I be using art?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Nah was just curious if art would be related...as it is showing there that the 2 issues are sensors and android runtime
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I have a new hypothesis as to the cause of my Settings->Notifcation drawer error.

When switching between Carbon and LiquidSmooth, all I did was back up my apps from Carbon and then restore them into LiquidSmooth (using Titanium).

I'm thinking that perhaps I needed to reinstall some of the apps from scratch when moving to LiquidSmooth ... even to the older, 4.4.2 LiquidSmooth version, where I was also having this Settings->Notifcation drawer error.

Specifically, I'm talking about Xposed apps and maybe Secure Settings.

Regarding the Xposed apps, what I'm doing now under LiquidSmooth is this: re-downloading and re-installing each Xposed app that I want to use, instead of just restoring from the backup. After trying this with a handful of Xposed apps, the Settings->Notifcation drawer error has still not occurred.

I'm only guessing that I would have to do the same thing with Secure Settings, although I haven't tried that app yet under LiquidSmooth, and I may not use it at all, since I found an alternative that seems to work.

Anyway, I can understand how re-installing instead of restoring these kinds of apps might be needed to go from 4.4.2 (Carbon) to 4.4.3 (LiquidSmooth), although as I mentioned, I had the same problem when using the older, 4.4.2 version of LiquidSmooth. But perhaps these Xposed things should always just be installed from scratch, each time a new ROM is installed.

Note that I always install the Xposed Installer from scratch, but until now, I was simply restoring the Xposed apps, themselves.

Anyway, this seems like a promising course of action, since I still haven't gotten any Settings->Notifcation drawer problems.

I'll report back when I have more info.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] sorgo:
I am happy not to see Music FC after each reboot, but I miss the headphones controls while playing the music (I am using Rocket Player). I am pretty sure it's due to Music being removed. I remember this app from my Xperia life period, it can be installed and perfectly working on any android and exactly does what I was used to.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.extras.liveware.extension.smartkey

Maybe it helps someone, or if there will be no easy fix for music app, you can add this as recommendation in OP.

PS: thanks for Notification light reply.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Ok...so im sitting here going through code...and now see why some issues may or may not occur...like the bfq scheduling for example...redoing some stuff from old code and we just might have alt key functions back as well...also apollo will be rebuilt into next built...and music controls can be found under settings>sound
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] sorgo:
I found another issue with 4.4.3. It's more about the new camera app 2.1 as it behaved the same. The camera app freezes completely after selecting video mode. The only workaround is to erase the app data and start over. Isn't it just the default video format setting? Or we have a bigger problem? Thanks again
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
i think because its a google cam issue...reverting back to old one in next build...plus liquid has released their own gapps for 4.4.3 which ill be updating the gapps link to when i do update
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Its a Google cam know issue, never work the video mode at least with relay. And the Google updates never solve it.

Awesome for the gapps, Google change so many things and a lot of apps don't work properly
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
so i believe found the ALT Key issue....missing files in repo...now i cant wait to build lol
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Great!

Is this a really small gapps? I like the BaNkS "minimal" gapps, because I want the bare mininum of standard Google stuff on my phone.

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... and it's another dead end. :(

I followed the procedure I described above, and I got myself a working LiquidSmooth ROM. I was glad, and I was using it for an hour or so. However, I then went back to check Settings->Notification drawer, and it caused Settings to crash again.

So ... it seems that something is trashing the Settings database, and it appears to happen at random times, even a long time after reboot.

If I had a lot of spare time, the next step would be to re-install each and every one of my apps fresh from the Play Store after installing this ROM, instead of restoring from backup. This might help me isolate the problem. But I don't have time for this, especially since I might have to run for a long time before the bug shows up.

Oh well ... (sigh).

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] cucumbers:
This one is a keeper!

Well this one is a keeper for me. I tried the previous version of this very briefly, just long enough to determine it wasn't playing well with my preferred camera app (I later realized it was a settings issue). The old launcher also kinda overwhelmed me. But this last incarnation has been just great. I've luckily avoided the bugs others have reported (but I haven't tried to change the LED settings yet...) Love the kernel tweaker app, all the extra settings... Well done!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
ok after fixing up all the other known issues like animations, notification lights and init.d tweaks it seems the alt is still somehow being a pain in the butt...im gonna be persistent about this one...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
New build 6/08 is up. Did alot of fixes in this build so read changelog for details... I will say i impressed myself with this build...its even smoother and snappier than last build
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Great! Thank you!

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Dirty flash over previous version and works fine. Led settings work fine now. Now with Apollo player.

Thanks for the hard work! And yeah, works a little smoother than before

Edited: I have issues with apollo, any one else?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I gave it a quick try. Same issues with Settings->Notification drawer, but I'm not surprised.

I think it's some sort of interaction between one or more of the apps I use and something very basic to how LiquidSmooth does things.

Anyway, I'll keep trying these LiquidSmooth ROMs when new versions come out, and when I have time, I'll make more efforts to diagnose this issue.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Do not try a dirty flash to rule out notification settings you are having...this is exactly what I mean by old crap will carry over
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
[MENTION=1751428]HippoMan[/MENTION] I'm going through that list you gave me and already do see a list of highly un needed and incompatible apps....once I run into the exact one I'll find the alternative for you...but already have alternatives for quite a few on there
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Wow! That's a lot of work, and I'm blown away that you are generously taking so much time, simply to try to solve my own, personal, idiosyncratic problem that no one else has even encountered.

If you come up with any kind of solution, of course I'll try your suggestions. I don't want your kind work to be in vain.

However, as much as I like the LiquidSmooth ROM, I'm perfectly happy with Carbon, and I don't need to mess around with any of my apps in order to use it.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] deadman96385:
What is the issue with apollo?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Apollo stops every time I try yo use it. Open fine and when I want to reproduce any song stops
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] TPMJB:
As someone posted before, havin issues with the video function of the camera, which requires a force close/wipe to work again. I could've sworn it worked on a prior version before, but I can't remember which rom or which version.

I was going to just use a different version of the camera app, but it's a different size in just about every release of every rom. Don't get it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
You need to clear your library data.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Are you using Google camera or stock...did you also dirty flash this new release
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Thanks, work fine now
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Removed banks gapps as that had the Google camera that was causing recording issue...I ask all who is willing to do a clean fresh install of official build which will be next release...i will let people know when its released.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] TPMJB:
I was using whatever camera is in the app drawer. There's two different cameras?

I also noticed it unable to capture video in snapchat.

Edit: I was using the gapps that you removed that apparently had the bogus camera in it. I'll flash liquid gapps tomorrow, but I spent too much time on this today and need to study.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Will have an official build out by tonight....I will suggest full clean flash as this build will allow ota updates from within ROM itself when they become available...and yes everyone Alt is fixed
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] cucumbers:
For what it's worth, my camera app of choice is Snap Camera (which is built on the original AOSP camera codebase but has evolved considerably since) and it works just fine with the latest LiquidSmooth. Of course if you really prefer the Google camera that doesn't help...

Here's one thing you might consider tweaking, when you get a break from everything else :) When using the Total Blackout mode, the new 4.4.3 in-call dialer pad (not the one that comes up when you first dial, but the one once you're already in a call) has very faint numbers that are hard to see in anything but dim light. I'm guessing something in the theming didn't quite switch them from mid-grey to white, unlike the other dialer. Would appreciate this fixed - once more pressing things are addressed, of course!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Just noticed this earlier myself on s3
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] deadman96385:
Already fixed ;)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Actually, I previously did do a dirty flash (well, semi-dirty: wipe cache and Dalvik only) of the lastest LiquidSmooth ROM over the previous version of it. Therefore, I'll try the whole thing again with the newest ROM after a full wipe ... when I have the time.

In the mean time, I know you got rid of the BaNkS gapps due to camera issues. However, the set of LiquidSmooth gapps you recommend has too much stuff for me ... way too much Google junk. Is there any kind of "minimal" version of the LiquidSmooth gapps? (I have been using the "minimal" 4.4.2 and 4.4.3 gapps from BaNkS).

Thank you.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
A dirty flash is only wiping dalvik cache and cache...flashing without wiping anything won't really install or update much at all...and liquid gaps is not filled with Google apps...its actually perfect if you ask me...its size is not because of apps...look inside its zip for details
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Thank you.

Well, even though they might not all be Google apps, per se, there still are twice as many apk's in the Liquid gapps than in the BaNkS minimal gapps.

apk's in Liquid gapps:

system/app/ChromeBookmarksSyncAdapter.apk
system/app/GoogleCalendarSyncAdapter.apk
system/app/GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.apk
system/app/Music.apk
system/app/YouTube.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleBackupTransport.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleFeedback.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleLoginService.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleOneTimeInitializer.apk
system/priv-app/GooglePartnerSetup.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleServicesFramework.apk
system/priv-app/Phonesky.apk
system/priv-app/PrebuiltGmsCore.apk
system/priv-app/SetupWizard.apk
system/app/GoogleHome.apk
system/app/GoogleTTS.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleSearch.apk
system/priv-app/talkback.apk
system/app/CloudPrint2.apk
system/app/PlusOne.apk
system/app/Hangouts.apk
system/app/Gmail2.apk

apk's in the BaNkS minimal gapps:

system/app/GoogleContactsSyncAdapter.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleBackupTransport.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleFeedback.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleLoginService.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleOneTimeInitializer.apk
system/priv-app/GooglePartnerSetup.apk
system/priv-app/GoogleServicesFramework.apk
system/priv-app/Phonesky.apk
system/priv-app/PrebuiltGmsCore.apk
system/priv-app/SetupWizard.apk

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So anyway ... does anyone know how to do surgery on a gapps zip file? Can I just remove the 11 extra apk files that I don't want from the Liquid gapps?

Or do I have to change other things within the zip bundle when I remove these apk files?

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Hmm ... looks like I would only have to remove those 11 apk's and also their references from MANIFEST.MF, since none of those particular apk's are referenced in any scripts, nor elsewhere.

Does that seem reasonable?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Well, I did the gapps surgery I mentioned above, and it seems to have worked. I created a Liquid_gapps_minimal.4.4.3.build.5.7.zip which has the 11 unwanted apk's removed. It now has the exact, same set of apk's as the BaNkS minimal gapps. The rest of the non-apk files in this bundle are the same as those in the full-sized Liquid gapps bundle.

I did a full wipe and installed the latest Liquid ROM with my minimal Liquid gapps instead of the standard ones. The device came up and everything seems to be working.

I haven't installed all my own apk backups yet, nor have I even begun testing the Settings->Notification drawer. I'll probably just back up this ROM soon, revert to Carbon, and then come back to test this Liquid ROM tomorrow or the next day.

If my minimal gapps continue prove to be OK, I'll figure out somewhere to upload the bundle, and I'll make it available. By the way, it's only 56 Meg, approximately 40% of the size of the full Liquid gapps.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
one thing id suggest is not putting liquid in its name just yet...ill talk with some fellow liquid devs and see about looking into it....however some apk's are needed so before removing certain ones...like ones unavailable for download on play store need to remain

Edit: Ok according to Deadman theres really not gonna be any difference in banks minimal and your liquid minimal...however banks standard has all the unnecessary google replacements where as liquids gapps do not...so those that want full can safely use liquids gapps...those that want minimal can use banks minimal
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
OK. If I release it, I'll just call it "HippoMan_minimal..." for the time being, or something like that.

Regarding the apk's, themselves, mine is indeed no different from the minimal BaNkS gapps. However, the Liquid gapps and my minimal version of it have a number of shared libraries that BaNkS' doesn't have, including your camera fix.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Player-J:
Would you recommend flashing the B14CKB1RD kernel with this? Wouldn't we have to flash it again after each update? It seemed the performance is a little better with your kernel...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Rom comes with the latest b14ckb1rd kernel upon each build and is built the same way flashable version of my kernel is...Also new update is available. can be downloaded from link in op or via OTA if you are on the 6/8 build. Go to Settings>About Phone>LiquidSmooth Updates and then tap update types and select all versions (incl. nightlies). it will auto install rom for you and auto reboot for you...so if you are unsure and using the banks standard gapps on the 6/8 version..go ahead and follow the OP to clean install new build and flash the liquidsmooth gapps