[Verizon LG G2] [] AL []:
OK, I think that I need to bring up a few points here... Sorry if me asking about CM11 seems to be old and off-topic here, but it's not like my long posts are getting in the way of intense rom development discussion or anything and I'm sure that all all agree that if I go in the general Q&A section and ask about jackpotclavin's CM11, chances are close to nil that someone knowing anything about it would ever show up or reply...

Anyhow, CM12's reliability/stability has never been any of my concerns in regards to prefering CM11 over it. On my current phone, I've had 'tweaked' CM12 builds make by a chinese guy back in December. A couple weks later, our main CM11 maintainers were on it and pulled what was already pretty decently running builds and soon we even had inverted (dark themed) Validus rom available and even more feature complete than CM12. So again, CM12 development status was and definitely is not the issie here.

What you guys forget when you see me as an alien coming here asking for a new CM11 build is that a phone doesn't run on an OS alone. Like most of you Im sure, I have quite a collection of user apps that I've accumulated over the last few years. Many of them that I had to spend a lot of time on I order to find the best available version to fit my needs, avoid problems (wakelocks/incompatibilities or just useless options/functions added in). I also spent quite some time on theming most of them to fit my homemade theme and I've also hacked a few of them (to change things that the CM theme engine cannot cover (like apos layout or stuff defined in smali), to remove excessive/obtrusive advertisement or even remove buttons/option that I found either not needed or simply out of place. One example of this would be the "update all" button in the Playstore: I would NEVER press that and didn't want to even see it on my screen, so I removed it.

Talking of tge PS, maybe 80% of the alps on my phone are not even listed under "My Apps" because I've either modded and re-signed them, got them directly from a developer or never even wanted them to get updated to a newer, bigger and bloated with useless new functionalities (and problems).

CM12 Theming: like many people in the xda threads I follow/participate, I just cannot stand Google's choice of moving to a light themed OS and most importantly, the changes they brought to the way that apps are now themed. In Kk, it is simple: one icon, one png. A few colors and styles clearly defined and easy to change and your good to go. With LP, hello big mess of spaghetti coding, bye-bye colorful icons and buttons and welcome to a world full of monochrome color filters, vector drawned icons and well hidden (and truely unnecessary) smali defined design elements. In simple words: comparatively to CM11, it is a nightmare to theme CM12 and the end results afe arguably uggly and/or extremely time consumming (if similar results is attempted - if even possible....).

And btw, (ok some will argue on its real utility or even its security -I got my reasons for it...,) but how's your Flash support in your CM12's browser? It works OK for me on CM11...

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OK I could go on and on here, but I hope you get the point: I've spent a lot of time customizing and choosing every app installed on my phone and I'm not ready to move to a new OS just for the shake of of being "up to date". I don't want to do so and facing a large amount of now incompatible apps and have to start all of the above once again. And in many cases, those apps might have been updated for LP already yes, but so did all the built-up crap in them and bye-bye the possibility of trying original or older versions...

So thanks again for recommending me to move to CM12, but no thanks - not for now at least.

Sorry again for this long post, but I hope that I've brought a different perspective on things here -at least. Android is a world of diversity and freedom of choice; I'd never blame someone for choosing things that I wouldn't use. So please do the same here: my CM11 question of an updated build (with security patches) was not misplaced and perfectly appropriate.

Cheers,

/AL

(I don't feel like proof reading this post, so sorry for the typos)