yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dwelder:
I followed the installation steps and loaded this over my SS 4.4.2 root. Now I have lost root, can't boot into SS and I keep getting a com.android.systemui error which won't let me do anything. I searched this thread and found no answers to the issues I am having. I am unable to use my phone right now. Can anyone help me out?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sethnelson1:
Gotta Flash SU after rom install. Trying to figure out wifi ATM.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
You will have to do what I just got done doing. Head over to Surge's NC2/NC5 Upgrade/Downgrade thread in "General". Perform the Downgrade steps in the 2nd part to MK2. Re-root MK2 with SafeRoot from this forum. Then proceed to upgrade to NC5 again per 1st steps in Surge's thread. For some reason, I had an issue this time with Surge's actual NC5 pre-rooted ROM this time. I had to restore a Nandroid then proceed to the Odin steps to re-upgrade. Don't know why it did that. Might have been a fluke. Good luck!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] epicroot:
You need to flash the proper modules to have WiFi work.. why do yall try stuff without doing the Necessary research.. All of this is detailed in 2 different threads. Read them and read them again... then implement it and you will have no issues
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dwelder:
That's what I was afraid of but at least there's hope. We you able to get Echo running after re-rooting on NC5?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Uhm, I normally don't jump into an all out argument on here but if you were to research my research and questions. I have asked countless times on the ability to come to this ROM from where I stand now regarding bootloader & build along with SS 3.72. Never was there a clear answer and especially when it comes to getting wifi to work which is a constant issue requiring A specific module for SS dependent on what bootloader? kernel? Hell, I'm not even sure of that since we are in un-charterer waters with AT&Ts SS and Hash's support to us on Verizon ATM using it.

Gigglioes threads, while he trys, are a complete scramble to me. I've re-read and re-read his Update/Downgrade/Flash this/Flash that, blah blah blah and none of it I can put together in a comprehensible way to proceed without mass confusion. He has so many files spread out and dialogue that I've had to rely on Surge's techniques and understandably, Surge doesn't have time with all on his plate to walk me through updating to another ROM nor would I expect him to.

I'll just sit my ass tight till another of my favorite ROMS gets updated which I won't even mention here since that is improper in another ROM thread and hope for some CLEAR/better instructions as to how to update to it when on a NC2 Bootloader and NC5 rooted ROM (Surge's).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sethnelson1:
I tired flashing the NC5 modules after flashing Echoe, wifi still didnt work. Trying again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Not re-attempting it at this time. Too much confusion and uncertainty as to which module and whatnot. I can't go without Wifi. I'm not on unlimited.

I already lost 2 hours of my day getting my phone back up and running.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dwelder:
I agree. After reading the OP and through some of the posts in this thread, it seemed like it was going to be pretty straight forward. But once I began flashing Echo, I noticed all these options to select. The OP only mentioned two things to choose and didn't mention anything about kernels or battery UI issues. That would have been something I think would have been updated in the OP for SS uses. All that was there was a link which didn't relate to the OP. I appreciate the help and know I begin the long process of redoing all of this minus Echo.

If anyone has had success with SS, can you please post some directions for us not so savvy folks? I know my way around my phone but I don't even try to claim that I am a ROM developer.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] epicroot:
Flash the NC5 modem with non hlos aka the wifi fix that works when modules do not

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Quite simple really. Flash echo choose stock NC5 for kernel. Make sure to pick a system ui that includes the og battery mod. Flash NC5 modem followed by NC5 modules followed by super SU zip and boot.. If wifi still does not work refer to the post above
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Again my attempt was to notify users that it had been reported to work on SafeStrap. I don't have nor have ever used SafeStrap and therefore only have limited information on how it works. I assumed people who use it already know the process for their device. I even added a link for those who need more information.?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
NC5 modules seem to elude me. I can't find them in the safestrap threads, nor this thread's OP. When I try to search them out in giglieos famous thread that keeps getting quoted, I get a bunch of directories full of ????. Why nobody can simply post these in a ROM thread that is supposed to support SS and are a requirement, simply baffles me. :mad:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JCBiznatch:
Case of the Mondays?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
No, case of losing 2+ hours of my life over the weekend trying to flash this ROM and not having concise - complete instructions for a SS user which I've previously been chasing for and asking many questions about in this thread.

My fault for going ahead and trying it. It just gets frustrating.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bkhorn:
Strange thing this morning. My phone has rebooted 3 times all by itself. I know when it does it because I am hearing the boot music. I have no idea what could be causing this.

I picked Old Boot Loader btw.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] h_10:
Since the last few posts were "complaints" about the rom, I wanted to add my experience to even things out.

I'm lokified and not using SS. I was running 20.2 without issues and decided to clean flash 20.3 last week. The only issue I had with 20.2 and 20.3 is that on initial flash, I could not get cell service. Wifi worked great but no cell service. I found that after flashing and setting up both releases, I had to dirty reflash the ROM. This seemed to solve the no cell service issue.

This ROM is great. Amazing battery life. I've had no reboots. The only other issue is with Root Explorer. When I rename system files, it gives me an error that renaming didn't work, but a refresh of the screen shows that it did rename. I don't have this issue with the root browser in ROM Toolbox so it looks to be specific bug with Root Explorer and this rom.

Anyway, this is a great ROM.

Many thanks to the amazing developer.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
I see you have AEL kernel try a different one and see if it still reboots
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
Look for [MENTION=442877]surge[/MENTION]'s modem thread. The modems are in the op. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=46550751

[MODEM][Zip] Modems for Loki'd & Safestrap roms (04/26/2014)

I was asked to post these, so here are all the modems. They can be flashed in both Loki and Safestrap recoveries. You can flash back and forward as you like. The 3rd is from the dev. GS4 and works ......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
I understand all about the modems. I've flashed them many of times on previous ROMS. These aren't the same as 'modules' and the fact that I'm on NC2 bootloader NOT NC5. I am on NC5 baseband though. The modems aren't going to make or break Wi-fi working or not. I do know that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
Well for that you need to read the applicable NC2 Safestrap thread. Forget about NC5 if you've only flashed the modem. Read man read and heed their advice. Hash code is awsome. He will not steer you wrong. Once you have Safestrap configured correctly, then come to this thread and learn how to flash Echo. You will be pleased to be an Echoenian:)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] epicroot:
Wrong that's why you flash the modem with non hlos... The hlos.bin is what fixes wifi..... I've said this once already in a post.. The proper modules are on gigilies afh. . Just looked found it in under a minute..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
:laugh: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2441441

The only thread about SS in the Verizon forums and it has nothing to do with SS 3.72 for KitKat other than a few users asking when it will be officially released to our Verizon S4s.

Maybe I'm a little slow but where do I find this SS 3.72 thread with all the correct modules that will also work on my Verizon phone? Therein is my confusion in all this.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] epicroot:
Modules are not in the ss thread for 4.4.2

I said in the post above they are in gigilies afh page find them there....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] bkhorn:
Please don't take mine as a complaint. I am love'n this rom. My issue just started out of the blue and hasn't done it since this morning. I will be trying a different kernel real quick to see if that works.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Well once I went through the other maze of figuring out his: ttp://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=13906 is missing the h at the beginning, thus why I can never access it before, I'm presented with a ton of files. Non of them say NC2 modules for SS 3.72 kitkat or anything that resembles that. I must be either too stupid for this or blind.

Thanks for the help though. :good:

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Ok so I located what I "thought" were the NC2 modules. This time I also flashed Superuser so I would not lose root which worked for that successfully. I also proceeded to flash these NC2 modules before booting into ROM the first time.

Results: I have root but WIFI will not turn on. :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
If you are dirty flashing try a full wipe. Sometimes that solves the problem. Are you flashing the OG mod?

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Sorry I can't give you more detailed ss advice. I'm on MDK. Haven't used ss for a long time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] epicroot:
For the third time flash the nc2 modem with non hlos this will fix wifi..
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
No to dirty flash. When I proceed to flash Echo, I boot into my Stock side of SS which I always use. I complete wipe NC5 pre-rooted System/Data/Dalvik/Caches then I proceed.

Yes, although there seem to be about 4 or 6 variations of the OG business in Aroma, I know I'm picking one of them.

My fault then on this one. Yea I think I seen it mentioned before but had a hard time believing it. I guess things have changed with KitKat because the last time I mistakenly flashed a non hlos modem on MJ7 Rom, I completely freaked my system and had to Odin so of course I've been reluctant to follow this advise plus I honestly didn't know the modem had to do with the lack of wifi. In all my past SS experience, it's come down to needing to flash the proper "module" not "modem". I have always thought that the Non Hlos modems were just for MDK users doing AOSP and CM10, ect... roms.

:confused: Question though, and I'm not trying to be difficult but since I flashed to the retail NC5 modem and seemed to like it better even when on the initial NC2 base rooted Rom, and again, I'm now on the base NC5 Rooted with a NC2 bootloader BUT NC5 modem, would it be possible to have success flashing the NC5 non hlos modem OR is this not possible to fix wifi?

Thanks. :cowboy:

Just to further clarify so I got this correct. Forget ANY modules and just make sure have NC2 non hlos modem to flash right after Rom & SuperUser Install before rebooting, correct?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
Yes, you have it right. Then you can flash the NC2 5 modern without non-halos, lol!

Confused? Mahana; )
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Lol What? That's totally opposite of what was said before. I thought I had to stick with non hlos modems :confused:

Well, I'll soon find out as I'm in the middle of the process for the 4th attempt!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sherdog16:
You want the full modem that matches your bootloader. Then after that you can flash any radio you want.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Ok. For SS'rs on NC2 Bootloader and NC5 pre-rooted.

WIPE ALL OF THESE: DATA/SYSTEM/DALVIK/CACHE

Install this ROM. (Chose one of the OG options in Aroma)

DO NOT REBOOT - untick option at end of Aroma.

Install: UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.94.zip (Obtainable from Surge's NC2/NC5 pre-rooted thread in "General")

Install: 30-jfltevzw-NC2-FN2-modules.zip (Obtainable from Giglios thread here in this dev forum - have fun finding it, I did!) :rolleyes:

Install: I545VRUFNC2_modem_apnhlos.zip (Obtainable from Surge's Modem thread in "General")

Now I did another Dalvic/Cache wipe just to be safe.

Reboot and you will have a working ROM with Wifi.

:cool:

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Meaning I can then flash a "Retail" version of say NC5 if I wish?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Nice job sir!!! Yes you can flash modem only though ?

Edit: added link to your process in op to help others ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] The Sickness:
Awesome job on the port bro...

Haters Make Me Famous

Deviant Development Team Member
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Thanks! Your next? lmao!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
:confused: How do we get Viper4Android updated to the latest version v2.3.3.0?

I've tried different methods of installing the new version over top the old.

Removing the old one with TIBU and installing the new one. Clearing Dalvik/Cache in between.

All it keep giving me back is the old version v2.3.2.6 :confused:

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Disregard, on 2nd reboot and install viper driver, the new version shows up following what I did above. :cyclops:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] epicroot:
You can flash it over your initial echo install. Flash the nc2 with non hlos modem.. reboot confirm wifi is working then you can go back in and flash an retail NC5 modem
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Okay new problem has come up out of no where and again, it's wi-fi related. I can toggle on wi-fi. Find the networks. We have two here where I work, a secured and unsecured which in the past I connect to either one. Now I'm just stuck on the "Obtaining IP address" and it won't connect. Rebooted the phone and even the unsecured access point to no help.

Any suggestions?

Edit: Other employee's phones and laptops are connecting just fine.

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Also, I'm having issue with FolderMount app not working. The previous NC5 I was on included this:

-write to external sd is enabled

I don't see it in the OP list of tweaks/functions. Anyone know how to enable it?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] The Sickness:
Im not Verizon.....but for your wifi try this.....

Go to Settings / More / Applications manager. Scroll all the way to the right . Scroll down to Wifi-Direct Share. Clear cache.....

Haters Make Me Famous

Deviant Development Team Member
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Thanks for the suggestion but wouldn't you know it, I was trying to resolve my other issue with "FolderMount" not working and loaded the Xposed Module that enables external SD access. Rebooted the phone, it went into a sort of never ending boot with the Echo logo for over 10 minutes, scared the hell out of me, lol. So I held down the power button, rebooted into recovery, did yet another Dalvik & Cache wipe. Rebooted up fine with External Access working via FolderMount now AND working wifi again.

I think my phone is possessed. :p:cowboy::D

I will certainly keep your suggestion in mind though in the event my wi-fi quirks up again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Gremlins
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Alxoom33:
You do have a lot of issues! ;)

I would do it anyways.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
"issues" is my middle name when I play with my phone too much, lol. :laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
So are we clear that this is the way to get echoe running on our nc5 rooted? Directions to the T?

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Red Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
The more that test the process to confirm it to work will be helpful ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
I will give it a go soon and get back to you guys. Stock slot correct?

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Pink Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Correct don't forget to backup?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
ok i gotta say i love this rom...but i cant get my wifi working. mj7 base. help anyone?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
You are on SS correct ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
yes sorry
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
you are on mj7, which means SS yes. You need to flash the mj7 modules after you flash the rom, but before you reboot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
i thought i did...hold on i'll reflash again
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
[MENTION=3804429]vdub2pt0[/MENTION] did you try the procedure?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
my internet is slow as b*lls, but it finally just finished downloading everything. starting the process now.

also, my backup failed twice, not sure if it's something to do with SS 3.72 or what... hopefully this works. :D

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Do i want the old or new bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Good luck! ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
Do i want the old or new bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Try old
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SO_dank:
Perfect!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
I am pretty confident the answer is yes. The only thing you should do is check which bootloader you are on so you know the correct non-hlos modem and modules to flash. You can download the free Samsung app: Phone Info from playstore to check your bootloader if unsure.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
finally lazer, i got wifi working!!!!! im mj7 based but after using surges upgrade, my phone says i'm mj7 still. so i followed instruc. on OP to flash this rom and before reboot i did flash my mj7 module. that didnt work so i tried all the mj7 modems w/ and w/o nonhlos. same with the nc5 ones. no wifi. finally, i found your convo with surge and used this nc5 module and it works, Weird!!! so here you go. https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNGsGW3DbV-gFUsELcIhXztX1CqdMQ
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
Cool! Glad you got it sorted ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Glad you're up and running! Enjoy and welcome to the Echoe family?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
Hey lazer, did you install this after downgrading to mk2 and rooting that, or did you do it after upgrading to rooted nc5?

Sent from my SCH-I545 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ElementalWindX:
I have ss 3.72 and NC5 BL and the newest 4.4.2 and I did exactly these steps with exactly these files which are found here : http://www.androidfilehost.com/?w=files&flid=13906

and it will boot but it boots into my stock slot and all sorts of messed up to where I have to go back to a backup to get it working properly again.

How can I install this ROM and get it working in my slot 1? :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
Wonder if it has to do with the nc5 bootloader?! also, you said your stock slot. you should be installing the rom into the stock slot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ElementalWindX:
I put it in the stock slot and everything works except the wifi. Got to figure that out now :/

Also is there a way to enable call recorder like in hyperdrive rom? The option that allows you to record your phone calls while they are going?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] SO_dank:
Stupid question. . Mdk..What baseband is everyone running.. my 4G and phone has become spotty I'm running MI1.. is there a better option??.. amazing how fast this rom is.. Running smooth after two weeks.. A lot of my experiences have been the first week everything Flys then the bus start. .. so far very nice
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
after surges method i did the same steps and wifi didnt work...i had to use this module https://www.google.com/url?q=http:/...ds-cse&usg=AFQjCNGsGW3DbV-gFUsELcIhXztX1CqdMQ

even though im mj7BL to get my wifi to work. now the rom flies and everything works perfect. i posted this like 5 posts up!!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] vdub2pt0:
Are you on the nc5 bootloader?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
No I'm on mj7. But I had to flash this link I gave you. The nc5 module to get wifi to work. I tried everything else. It worked for me...All u can do is try. Just trying to help you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ElementalWindX:
I used surges method to get to where I was too with NC5, and I've used the modules he posted in that link as well. I've tried installing this rom at least 20 different ways so far with no luck. Either the wifi doesn't work and everything else works, or I get the rom going and it constantly FC's with some program error non stop.

I tried with every single kernel option there was. :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] hakisac78:
After surges method...I wiped data, cache, dalvic , and system in ss 3.72 menu.

Then flashed echo and supersu zip together.

In aroma I chose old bootloader. And stock kernel.

Made my selections. Exited aroma flashed the nc5 module in the earlier link I gave you and BAM!!!! BADASS ECHO ROM! Lol!!! Seriously though I tried all modems and modules for my bootloader and the nc5 is the only thing that fixed wifi. I flashed the rom over 6 times too.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
What FC's? Are you selecting a system ui with OG battery mod?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ElementalWindX:
I did select one of the OG battery mods at one point, then I tried just using the stock battery mods.

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That might be where I am going wrong.

I'll use the new bootloader because thats the only one where I can find the stock kernel. The "old bootloader" doesn't give me an option for stock kernel.

Also after I flash the rom, I flash the nc5 modules, but THEN I flash the nc2 modem since the nc5 modem zip I have fails.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
The next update will have an option to not flash a kernel hopefully that will help SS users during installation. Remember as of last update SS wasn't working ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ElementalWindX:
I'm using V20.3.

I just did exactly what hakisac did on my phone including going to the old rom and using what (I now see after re-reading) the stock rom. and I choose vzw for csc, and I chose stock battery option, and when it rebooted I got a red status light in the top left, and I had to take the battery out. I rebooted the phone and it goes to the setup screen but I'm back to getting some kind of crashing error again and as soon as my screen goes off, it won't come back on.

-_-

sigh

:)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jds3118:
Did you check post #884 ? Did you try that ?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] lazer9:
I was re-upgraded to NC5 with the NC2 Bootloader from my original NC2 pre-rooted instructions per Surge's thread originally. That's what had put me on the NC2 bootloader.

I'm not sure slot flashes work correctly yet via AT&T's SS 3.72. I know Surge had specifically said something about wiping slots and using the Stock side to flash these KitKat variants but I may be misunderstanding this. I never flash to slots as this uses up to much of my meager 8gb internal SD on my S4 personally.

Correct.

Call recorder should have been an option in the Aroma installer, If you missed it, alternately you could likely hunt down Jkruse's Call recorder for 4.4.2 in the Apps/Themes Section in these forums. That worked fine for me when on Surges's NC2 and NC5s.

Again, good find, this may likely be the ticket for some of you with wifi issues if the non hlos modem matching your bootloader doesn't work.