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[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
My middle finger width is 21mm when pressed slightly under phone. When I measure ratio of phone height to the finger I get 131/17=7.7 (just measuring the forward edge and removing a bit of the phone cover) which makes for a 162mm tall phone estimate extrapolation. A small-bezel LG G3 5.5" is 146mm tall so I'm guessing this is 10% bigger than 5.5" phone.

By all mean do this yourself I'm not standing up say I'm absolutely right.
[Nexus 6  General] Zenouzenou:
Wtf, these nails are....creepy !
[Nexus 6  General] oskimon:
If the phone really is that big I won't get it, but will the Nexus 5 still be a viable option this fall? I need a phone.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Here's one logical argument, please decompile

The Nexus 5 is a really good phone

To improve upon it significantly in speed hits a thermal throttle limit on 5" phones, to which larger phones can spread heat out more so can be faster than smaller phone, for any given chipset

The next revision of chipset about 30%-40% less heat for a given performance is the Snapdragon 808, due in volume in early 2015

So you CAN release a much faster phone NOW so long as you make it BIGGER.

You have to WAIT for a faster 5" phone.

Hence, release big phone now, keep the N5 for sale, ideally do a price drop, so two Nexus, the N5 2013 and the N6

Release a revision to N5 2015 based on 808

Then end up with two fast phones, and then release a new Nexus every 6 months alternating large/small

? Strawman argument, just making it up the idea to match the technology

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Last year:

http://www.engadget.com/2013/08/27/nexus-4-8gb-price-drops-to-199/

then

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_5#Release

This year so far working backwards separating out 16GB from 32GB and just when a price drop happened not when repeated later

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-tax-outside-of-new-jersey-and-free-shipping/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...shipping-and-no-sales-tax-outside-new-jersey/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...9-99-free-shipping-tax-everywhere-california/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...4-with-free-shipping-and-no-tax-except-in-ny/

So 16GB dropped $334 to $315 in 3 months

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...379-free-shipping-sales-tax-outside-new-york/

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...lors-for-384-99-shipped-sales-tax-only-in-ny/ (this one I bought, in red)

So 32GB not really dropped so much but a little in nearer 4 months.

These may appear small discounts but understand initially its Google Play only with tax and shipping so e.g. for me a Play order becomes $454 so $379 is 16.5% discount.

There is still Google Play stock at the RRP, black 16+32, white 32, red 32. So implies there is still some capacity to drop price of 32GB.

Hoping.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
This still looks huge as hell.

I mean I had the first two Notes. And I got used to them after a week or so, yeah it looks huge but once you get used to it, other phones look small and yours looks normal.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
I really hope that you are right.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
I think the part that's going to help A LOT is how low the screen is on the phone. the bottom bezel is very small. other than the speaker there isn't a lot of space down there at all. That will make most of the screen reachable.
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
Another nexus 6 found. Looking good...

http://www.androidcentral.com/googles-nexus-6-reportedly-spotted-engulfing-hand-its-user-bus-ride
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Old news
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
I'm going to blow your mind.

This is not the Nexus 6.

http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/10/01/006f1cda7c39e35f70fa3336ae2e8c90.jpg

Power and volume button are both on the right side.

Case closed.
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
Google has a cloud infrastructure while HTC doesn't have as much power when it compares to Google. Plus Google isn't worried about nexus sales anyways. HTC on the other hand depends on good sales.
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
Again, starting with the Nexus 4 Google began naming their phones and tablets based on screen size. I thought this was BEYOND well established. They are absolutely not going by generation for the phones, because that is just stupid. What happens in 2 years when the phone is the Nexus 7????
[Nexus 6  General] TXRaunchy:
Google and HTC for the Nexus 6?

http://www.inferse.com/14186/google-htc-corporation-ties-nexus-6/
[Nexus 6  General] :
I thought google said one last nexus phone. Or was that a vicious rumor. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
Pretty sure at this point everything is just rumors. I haven't read anything concrete about the next Nexus, and I doubt anything will come out about it for months. We don't know anything about the next Nexus 7, which is only a couple months away. The next Nexus 5 is like 7 months away.
[Nexus 6  General] :
I keep phones a couple years anyway.....by the time I am in the market again, it'll be 5 generations from now at the ridiculous rate they pump out new phone models sometimes. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
I usually upgrade every year, but I don't really know if I will continue it this year. The nexus 5 is fantastic and Google would have to create a sort of super phone for me to upgrade. They would have to basically create a phone that was clearly better than the OEM flagships out now, which they probably aren't going to do.

Waterproof, front facing stereo speakers and massive battery would get me to upgrade. Otherwise I think I'm OK.
[Nexus 6  General] :
In canada we don't really get "upgrades"....and until recently, contracts were usually 3 years....they expect our phones to last that long....and if not....too bad. Lol

So I pay cash for phones now. No more contracts. So as you said....it would take something crazy better for me to buy new phones for awhile. Or mine breaking.

I think as far as real world use....phones have kinda peaked. Nothing new will blow anyone away now....not until phones can clean our houses or wash our cars. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
Oh yea, when I said upgrade I mean sell the old one on craigslist and buy the new one. I have been off contract for a while now on prepaid plans. Works out to around a $100 to upgrade each year. Can't really see myself doing it this year though. Google would really have to knock it out of the park.
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
Again the Nexus phones go by generation and the tablets by size. It's not hard to grasp this concept. Do you need someone to make you a video and draw it for you? The Nexus 4 was the 4th generation Nexus device. The Nexus 5 is the 5th generation device. Google is discontinuing the Nexus in 2015 so hence no Nexus 7 phone. The Nexus 4 screen size is 4.7 and the Nexus 5 is 4.95 inches. I fail to see how they're either 4 inches or 5 inches. At least be knowledgeable in what you're talking about before trying to correct someone.
[Nexus 6  General] GUGUITOMTG4:
Having said all of that, what really matters is the product, not the name.:p
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
And I assume the Nexus S was the Sth generation of phones? It has to do with screen size. It has nothing to do with generation. You state that this is the last Nexus phone like its a fact and not pure conjecture. Unless you work for Google, just stop stating things as fact that you are purely speculating about. Why in Gods name would they have 2 separate naming conventions for phones and tablets? That doesn't make any sense. The next phone will be called the Nexus 5 2014. Unless again, you work for Google or have some statement from someone that does stating otherwise, there is nothing left to discuss.
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
I posted a picture for you that even a child can understand by looking at it that the Nexus 5 is the 5th generation. How come the Nexus 4 isn't a 4inch screen? By your logic it's supposed to be 4.0 inches not 4.7. By your logic the Nexus 5 is supposed to be 5.0 inches not 0.2 inches bigger than a Nexus 4. I never said the Nexus 5 was the last phone. Google is discontinuing the Nexus line in 2015, we're in 2014. A tablet and a phone are two different devices. Why would they even follow the same naming scheme? Unless YOU work for Google stop regurgitating that garbage because that theory is backed by absolutely nothing. Whereas the one I suggested does have stuff to back it up. I'm only posting because I don't want people to believe the garbage you're trying to pass on as information.

The next Nexus can't be called Nexus 6 anyways. http://cocatalog.loc.gov/cgi-bin/Pw..._M61QZE7Yi6mMcxzchhi&SEQ=20140208061255&SID=1

Google to end Nexus line in 2015

https://www.google.com/search?site=......1c..39.mobile-gws-hp..1.1.36.3.RYQ9KqzxmDw

Google Nexus Wikipedia with 3 phones named after their generation. The 2 "based on screen size" aren't even close to their sizes.

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Google_Nexus
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
Of course the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 were the fourth and fifth generation of Nexus devices. No one has ever denied that. So what? They still use screen size for the names. The Nexus 5 was close enough to 5 inches to call the Nexus 5. We know for a fact that they use screen size because of the naming of the Nexus 7 2013. And as you point out, they aren't going to name the next Nexus the Nexus 6 which they would have to if you were correct about the names being based on generation, so what the flying f&#& was this whole discussion about?

And wow, you found a rumor about Google ending the Nexus line? Let me post the rumor that LG is making the next Nexus phone, that HTC is making the next Nexus phone, that there will be no more Nexus phones, that Sony is making the next Nexis phone, etc...... Rumors are worthless. Until Google says differently,you shouldn't go around repeating worthless rumors.

Can't wait for your condescending reply. . . . .
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
You forget the part where everyone acknowledged the fact only tablets follow the size naming. Your rumours of it based on screen size is worse than my sources that I provided for you. Yeah I put one rumour and provided actual facts in the others. OK the Nexus 5 was close enough to call Nexus 5 then why wasn't the Nexus 4 called Nexus 4.5? Why not Nexus 4.7 if it was based on size? Cite some sources man you're embarrassing yourself. If rumours are worthless then stop posting because that's all you're posting. You say that it's a "fact" they use screen sizes to name the Nexus phones yet you post absolutely nothing to back that up. Where are the facts? You haven't shown a single fact. Here's a fact 3 phones follow the generation naming and 1 phone (Nexus 5) follows the size naming. The Nexus 4 is technically closer to 5 inches since you want to use the whole closer thing for the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
Here is the end of it. What do you think they are going to call the Nexus phone released this fall? It can't be Nexus 6. If its any variation of Nexus 5, then you are absolutely 100% wrong and their naming convention is based on screen size and not generation. The truth is that no one knows for absolute certain what the naming conventions are at Google for phones, and its all pure speculation that is out there now. We do know for 100% fact that they name their tablets based on screen size, and there is ZERO reason to think they do any differently for phones. We will have to agree to disagree, and we will find out in a few months who is right.
[Nexus 6  General] DigitalUnderground:
If u read that pigs fly on the internet would u believe it? Check your sources. LG will be the manufacturer

And to end the stupid pointless argument... As 1/2 of you is way off base, do u really... Really believe that after making the screen size increase a fifth of an inch was enough to go from nex4 to nex5. Its the generation. Nexus S and galaxy nexus I'm CERTAIN Sammy had something to do with naming those devices ("Galaxy S" is still used by Sammy in case u live under a rock)... And it had nothing to do with the S" display lol. Its the generation model. The Nexus 6 is the last nexus and it will NOT have a 6" screen. And no... Pigs don't fly
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
Yes they do lol.

[YouTube]nPPLG-Hpr2M[/YouTube]
[Nexus 6  General] deeren:
Well i'll just chip in too. Imho i dont think that there will be a nexus 6; in fact i think the guy above was correct. It has to be the nexus 5. They started naming it according to the screen size for tablets. Who says it should be different for the phone? you can argue how much you want that it is not 5 but 4.95 bla bla bla but the fact remains that it is advertised as being 5 inch. Even on google page the phone is said to be 5 inch.

Edit: just pay attention to how google has emphasised and places the accent- nexus 5...introducing the new 5inch phone...
[Nexus 6  General] BoundsChecking:
You do realize this argument is over whether the phone screen size is directly correlated to the phones product name?
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
And that means exactly what????

Nothing.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
With my experience from 5.5" what matters most for in-hand operation is the side bezels and the total screen height as you reach past the side bezels then operate the height of the screen. The top and bottom bezels do not affect in-hand operation.

Pocketability is more the opposite typically, a smaller head and chin makes it fit better.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
You do know, that the rumors have stated this would be the placement for the Nexus 6 to have, right?

Please have more research under your belt before you post.
[Nexus 6  General] Solid$nake008:
This is a comparison with the other flagships of the present and some of the past, someone took the mock render and did some of the extra math involved and came up with this.

[IMG="Nexus 6 comparison"]http://i.imgur.com/IMeQaJc.jpg[/IMG]

Few more comparison pics(some are too big to post here so i'll drop the link instead)

[IMG="Nexus 6 comparison"]http://i.imgur.com/6bQHaAR.jpg[/IMG]

http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1338/1381/original.jpg
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
Lol the more I read this thread the more I realize we are all losers....

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] RedBlueGreen:
yeah... rumors. F rumors.
[Nexus 6  General] JJsevol:
This is the best post here hahaha but seriously I love n6 rumors.
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
I sold my N5 last week before the resale value plummeted and tried an iPhone 5s from Friday!

Couldn't stand it and immediately bought a HTC One M8 on Sunday night!

Can't wait for the Nexus 6 to come out.

Don't care what the screen size is as long as the build is solid and it has a decent enough battery with the latest Qualcom chipset!

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
is like if google knew beforehand that the ipotato+ was coming, and they didn't wanna get embarrassed in the arms race for the biggest screen?

anyway, it seems is gonna be a 6incher with all those pics popping out, deal with it people
[Nexus 6  General] Dr. Krieger:
It does not contradict anything that has been leaked in the last month or so, that old 5.2" stuff was probably wrong or just related to another device (the new Droid), I just find idiotic that because of wishful thinking, people (and you in particular) kept saying that the couple of bench leaks which were about a 5.2" device were considered as reliable as the flurry of news and pictures and leaks that we have gotten in the past week for the 5.9" device.

I guess we can know agree that they were note, nothing 5.2" related was mentioned for a long time and the 5.9" device is reality.

Like you, I just hope they come back to the Nexus 5-size next year when they'll introduce the 64 bit SoC.

They're not speculating that's the Nexus 6, their source saw the actually device and describe it to them so they could draw that render, it's not the same as speculating.

Also, when I first posted and said that the 5.9" was a done deal, a lot of people was just saying how anything related to the 5.9" must have been wrong, just because they didn't like the size and wanted the device to be something else.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
That is just a "told you so" post.

Surveys and polls point to larger phones being less popular, for many reasons we won't repeat.

You are separating claimed knowledge from opinion. Whilst the posts you mention are separating logic from opinion. So its not valid to have a smug tone.

None claimed Google would NOT make a 6" phone but cited reason why it being illogical. If the claim of a 6" phone,

by itself

is true, then Google has behaved illogically in a manner which limits their market share. That is fine, it's their business, but it actually makes many aspects worse for Android in that it doesn't produce a reference platform which encompasses the wide range of display sizes inclusive of the 5" size. I can prove it via the flipside of pointing to the opposite end of large Android tablets. The GUI which works for small screen struggles to make benefit of the larger screen, that produces a fracture, a fork, in Android via tablet manufacturers producing customisations to make use of large screens. Apply that logic again at the smaller phone screen, if stock Android isn't there, it allows in strong customisation. This is the logical argument that Android reference platforms must be both central to smaller phones up to central to large tablets. A Nexus 5 and 10 covered this, but a Nexus 6 and 9 does not so well. A Nexus 5, 6, 7,8,10 offers more Android reference platform spread, but diminishing returns, so there is a balancing act here to find, hitting sweetspots.

Much of the anti bigger phones in past years has been psychological, a concern with the phone defining someone. Once you get past the physiological dimensions of hands, it is a different argument.

We then have used logic then offer individual opinions.

The minority who prefer bigger will post their happiness, the majority who don't (silent majority as geeks dominate these forums above-average of the general population) will post their disappointment, but in a different proportion to the masses.

Whatever, the market will respond.

We'd all be pleased if they launched a N5 successor and a N6, but then the problem removed of one-size-fits-all is replaced with "which one do I get". I've posted an an electrical/thermo argument of why the N5 2014 is not happening, but again using logic and information, but Google can obviously behaving illogically at its own will.

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Bigger phones are easier to make, as you don't have as severe engineering problems of heat in a small platform, hence can emerge earlier.

This is the reverse argument of this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gJlI9scBEtw (the argument is from 50 secs til about 1min30s)

Waiting for Google to speak before we see the roadmap.

As an owner of a 64GB 3GB 5.5" $360 delivered OPO phone, I can understand why bigger comes out easier, hence earlier.
[Nexus 6  General] whohasaquestion:
Looks like Nexus 6 won't have OIS camera.

That's a really important feature..Nexus 5 has it but not Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Where did you see that?
[Nexus 6  General] 7TimesCursed:
Hey guys, my sources just informed me that Sony is actually bringing the next nexus. Its called the Nexus Z. 1GB Ram S400. Can't name sources for their safety...

:)
[Nexus 6  General] DanCapoDaDon:
Lies and more blasphemy
[Nexus 6  General] wideasleep1:
Couple of points: Bezel is huge..can't believe Google has sanctioned a Nexus I'm likely to skip. The LG G3 is still an upgrade over this thing. Nigel has too much time on his hands..someone needs to start making plans...

Sent from my amazing LGG3!
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
Obviously it was a joke. Like making fun of tk tech trying to say stuff and then say their sources are protected so no one knows where they got the info.
[Nexus 6  General] ricey1986:
The top bezel looks huge in comparison to the bottom in the photos
[Nexus 6  General] floepie:
Wooden mockups

http://imgur.com/a/tKP3a

See? If you compare how he's holding the mockup with how the person is holding the real thing (and it even has a case!) in the leaks, clearly this mockup is larger. I still contend whatever is in those leaks, N6 or not, is smaller.
[Nexus 6  General] Elluel:
It's okay guys.

Next year we'll get the Nexus 7 (2015), and it'll be a 7 inch "phone"! Maybe the Nexus 10 (2019) will be a 10 inch "phone" too!
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Joking aside, what I found happened when I switched N5 to OPO was the N7 I carried was getting used less, and then carried less. I then looked hard at the N7 and found it was an awful lot of bezel, did some math on other model, the bezel is 29% the diagonal of the N7, a small bezel tablet like the Lg Gpad 8.3 ($199 now + 64GB $30 microSD) or Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 ($249) or Tab S 8.4 (doesn't support CM) then puts some extra real estate distance up.

So my current plan is to sell my N10 and have OPO and Gpad 8.3, apart from the fact the forward speakers of the N10 are a dream compared to this stupid notion (why???) of rear speakers!

Like the forward speakers of the claimed N6, and wondering if true stereo in Landscape and not just two speakers which get used differently like I've seen on other models.

The HTC N9, is I think Google's plan to put some distance up from the phone, merge the N7" and N10.

Another factor when comparing say an iPad Mini or Air (my daughter has had these both) is 4:3 wastes a lot of screen, the N9 is only 3% more diagonal used screen on 16:9 video than the LG Gpad.

So that's my current "system" right now a OPO 5.5" and Gpad 8.3 both 64GB.
[Nexus 6  General] :
It's certainly nice to see the Nexus brand being discussed more.

From that image, it's pretty obvious that the phone is much larger than I'd like personally and that larger speaker grill at the top is also a big downside for me - they tend to collect dust far too easily.

With that being said, I have been more than happy with every Nexus device I have owned and so I'm certainly open minded about purchasing it. (if it actually exists!)

Long live the Nexus brand! ;)
[Nexus 6  General] hormosapiens:
if this thing is really 5.9" then I say **** it! I quit!
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Its less than 1cm taller than the LG G3.

Its also less than 1cm wider than the G3.

So many drama queens!

#sobuyingit

I really can't wait for this phone!

5.9" 2k resolution screen

3gb ram

Snapdragon 805

13mp with OIS

3200mah

Metal frame

Stereo front speakers

'Possible' fingerprint scanner

Aweeeesome! :)
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
If it doesn't come with a white back, this phone does not deserve to be called SHAMU.
[Nexus 6  General] entropism:
OK terrific that it works for you. But for a lot of us, the N5 was already pushing the size boundaries, and the G3 is uncomfortable to use. 1cm taller I wouldn't mind much, but WIDER? No.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
A few keystrokes is not drama.

Your point is like saying a suspension bridge is only a little short of the road it connects to, drama queens! Sure you'll fall off the end of the bridge, details, details, look at the nice bridge features, the turrets and the nice color!

Hand size is hand size, all points about a little bigger don't apply once you can't actually hold it. A threshold is when your finger ends are not past the mid-way so the center of the gravity of the phone is beyond your grasp. Literal "tipping point"

I hope the Nexus 6 exists to extend Android, in the context there is also a N5 price drop now and a N5 2015 revision using the 808 in ~4-6 months. Then everyone has what they want and indeed I can see some buying both. I've had that thought myself with my OnePlusOne, just move the SIM to suit the trip. Long plane trips like a pbablet, most daily situations don't. Trains don't as you got to grasp a handle every 30secs and a pbablet drops and the phone slides the length of the carriage. How do I know that....