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[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
I don't think it will flop, it gives a better option(cheaper) for those looking at note 4 and iPhone 6 plus. It looks expensive with fantastic build quality. My 5 looks like a cheap phone, even though its been great. The thing I don't like on my 5 is the camera. For lack of a better term, it sucks. My DNA smoked it.

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Makes sense, I had a note 2 and loved it. One of my best phones, but I'm not into Samsung Knox on a phone. Never own another one. I only have the 16 gig nexus 5, and only use storage for Roms. The 6 will be a huge upgrade for me.
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
The size is already decided. Get over it and move.
[Nexus 6  General] stevew84:
There will still be a rush of people buying the phone thinking that the 6" screen is worth it, then realizing that it isn't ideal for a daily driver.

I'm going to pass on this.
[Nexus 6  General] Techngro:
You can actually get rid of Knox (or at least flash a stock ROM without Knox). It never really bothered me because I never use it and it doesn't get in the way.

It's too bad about the Nexus 6 not having expandable storage. It looks like a very well-designed device. I checked out the pics on the Motorola blog and it just looks super thin and beautiful. :(
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
There's no way it will flop.
[Nexus 6  General] waiters:
I agree. This was a mistake of a phone with the current pricing.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
No I didn't forget, but i didn't have those issues to a degree where it bothered me one bit, so for $399 I was not going to complain.

Then again, I have T-mobile and the Nexus is, well WAS, the cheapest phone I should get by a long shot. Now it's almost right up there with the other expensive phones.

I'd pay the $649 if I only had to buy one. And I would have gladly signed a contract to get it subsidized on T-Mobile, but that's not an option anymore.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
If it's too big and uncomfortable they will return it. Buy on a credit card and if you have return issues you contact them..but you won't if you buy from Google.

If it's too uncomfortable for me I'll get a refund. 2 weeks is enough time for me to decide if it's a good daily phone or not.
[Nexus 6  General] BarryH_GEG:
Here's why it won't "flop" and a huge difference from previous Nexi...

And I guess flop is in the eye of the beholder. Based on pure numbers, especially at such a low selling price, the Nexus 5 wasn't exactly a huge success volume wise. Sales are reported in LG's revenue numbers and even with them pushing the G3 themselves their overall performance was nothing to write home about.

Anything Google makes or doesn't make selling h/w is a pimple on the butt of their advertising business. Motorola's probably protected with a volume and/or revenue guarantee from Google. So if it sells or doesn't sell no one's getting hurt. Except maybe the egos of those that view Nexus as the "anti-establishment" and someday hope/hoped it would take over the world.
[Nexus 6  General] badboy47:
definitely passing this one.
[Nexus 6  General] SovereignKnight:
I was anxiously waiting for this phone to be released. I was on the fence about getting a G3 or holding out for N6. The N6 seemed like a no brainer. Now that it's announced, the thing I feared the device would have is in it... AMOLED!! NOOOOOOO ! I could have lived w/o an SD card slot, and non removable battery, but this, this is the third strike against the device. For the very reason I do not buy Samsung devices, is now apparent with the N6. Amoled technology doesn't seem to be a problem with some people, but for others, screen burn in, and blue color degradation is a HUGE turn off for devices that feature this display technology. If you don't use the display allot, and you replace your phone every 2 years, and are completely happy in spending almost $700.00 on a phone with technology that can/will burn in eventually, then go for it. IMO however, IPS displays are far superior for lifespan, reliability and to some, arguably color. Damn Google! Why did you have to put an AMOLED in this phone!!! Looks like I'm LG G3 bound.
[Nexus 6  General] kenjiwing:
I agree with a lot of what you said but you are really bsing with the "better then majority flagships" bs. This phone is only comparable to a Iphone 6 + and a Note 4 and id even say comparing it to a ****ty iphone 6 plus is a stretch. There are no other large screen flagships. So based on that..

The battery is the same as the note 4 its not better

The display is a high end display and is bigger if that is what you are looking for vs the note 4

The processor is the same as the note 4 its not better

the dual speakers is definitely a upgrade depending on how you look at it

the note 4 camera will be better

The note 4 comes with SD card support/stylus support/hardware button vs pure android is really the only difference now. I have a note 3 and really wanted a Nexus 6 but for this price point its just not worth it for me.
[Nexus 6  General] MBurns2:
Screen too big, i hope that now the price of the nexus 5 (32 gb) will go down..
[Nexus 6  General] Judge584:
Nexus 5 was and still certainly a great device, only battery being on the weak side. But seriously nexus 4 wasn't that good: poor cellular reception and poor battery life.

I agree 650$ is not cheap, but we usually got way we've paid for.

Wy not staying with nexus 5 for now?

I wouldn't be surprised if a nexus 5 replacement is announced around next Google IO : with new snapdragon 64 bits and with no more than a 5.2 screen with thin bezels.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
There are absolutely people who have a context they'll love it, but I figured with my OPO experiment I'd adapt, the 64GB storage and much faster and I figured I'd not use N7 so much, and just put up with the size and waited for adaption... it didn't happen. To me the killer problem was it simply fall out my pocket when I sat down, as it was too tall to get its top under the pocket and it would just slide out I was constantly dropping it. I missed one-handed usage (I ride a bike and take train) which for me was a big loss. at home when have 2 hands I tend to use N10, just much easier. No theory, just own all these sizes and let experience reveal.

All these problems will be worse with N6, and its a $650 phone wacking the floor not a $350 phone wacking the floor and a subtle non-obvious issue is the bigger the phone the bigger the case, so either naked+scratched+dented or even bigger, and its not as if it will have a long-term life, end-of-line 32bit.

There are absolutely those who will love it, its competitive to other large phones, just a lot less than like the N5. I am shocked they dare call a $650 Nexus, its a Moto X large, not Nexus.

Today, the absolute best news is Android L's wide deployment targets, officially supporting 2 generation ago N4 and N7 2012. That is re-lifing old kit. I don't know how long I'll hold off waiting to ROM install, intelligent choice would be a month+ but knowing me it will be days... battery life improvement hoped and if true then welcomed.
[Nexus 6  General] scottharris4:
It won't flop. I'm not sure it will be a huge success, but the fact that it's on Verizon will mean it likely does better than the N4 or N5 ever did.
[Nexus 6  General] Jnoles07:
Everything is perfect about this phone for me, except the fact that it is 32-bit. I am passing on the phone for that reason. It isn't future proof. Sucks, because I was pumped for this phone, size and all.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
I was only going to upgrade to the N6 because, well it was the N6, why not? But at this cost, it's not worth overlooking the size for my small hands (and back pockets where it always sits, N5 was already pretty out there in my pocket), I would have loved a smaller version, no bigger than 5.5 max and a cheaper cost (although I would pay more then $400 for these specs) But that's not happening for now as we now know.

Yes i understand the price reason, it's juts not a "Nexus" to me per say.

N5 for now it is, still an awesome phone, and I haven't even rooted it yet after almost a year (what?!?!) :eek:
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I think we knew a while ago those processors didn't support 64 bit. The 810 models do.
[Nexus 6  General] Pvt WhoOkid:
Does anyone know how much ram. I've seen the whole 32gb or 64 GB but is this 3gb ram also or is Motorola sticking to 2gb?
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Well it Looks like the value of my Nexus5 just went way up with the N6 announcement...
[Nexus 6  General] JulienD33:
Someone make a petiton to please Google to make a smaller Version of the N6
[Nexus 6  General] jasonleb1:
It's got 3GB.
[Nexus 6  General] elav:
I love my Nexus 5 .. I think Google was unable to do things right this time.
[Nexus 6  General] tweaked:
My grandmother says the same thing. Is that you gram?
[Nexus 6  General] stevew84:
The people who own/want to own the Note 4, Oppo Find 7 and One Plus will want this phone, not the every day user.

Certain the Nexus 6 is bomb.
[Nexus 6  General] KerryWood34:
Does anyone know if I will be charged immediately when I pre-order later this month or not until it ships?
[Nexus 6  General] D_Magic:
I bought the iphone 6 plus on launch day and used it for 2 weeks and the user experience was terrible. Phone stutters a lot and the whole system feels slow compared to the 5s and all the apps are not optimized so it looks bad and the keyboard changes size constantly so sold it.

Happy with the Z3 now and friday comes the Note 4 and after that the Nexus 6 :)
[Nexus 6  General] gregorvu:
I'm very dissapointed

Too big and much too expensive.

I will not buy it. I will stay on N5. I'm sure that in EU price will be higher then in US.

Somebody mentioned oneplus two, when will this phone be released?
[Nexus 6  General] :
£407 UK price according to BBC News. Not a bad price! :D
[Nexus 6  General] grayme:
I was waiting for the 6 to take me from my SGS2, but it's just the size.

I can't go from that to this, I remember when my SGS2 was considered large, now it seems to be a baby toy..... http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Sa...y-S-II_id5106/size/Google-Nexus-6/phones/8626
[Nexus 6  General] raze599:
Thats a direct currency conversion. Not sure if it includes VAT which will bring the price up to the £480 range.
[Nexus 6  General] :
Ah, more than likely!
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Well I have the 6 and it is flawless. The 6plus might stutter but the 6 is baby butt smooth
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
And if you buy it from the Carphone Warehouse, I'm sure they'll add their own "special" tax as well!
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Are u dissing your grandmother??
[Nexus 6  General] raze599:
Haha yeah, my friend paid £330 for his Nexus 5 from them. That's a 10% markup so from £480 you can expect to pay £528 from them lmao
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The too-big issues, which the N6 will suffer even more has been taken on board and the OnePlusTwo will be a little smaller, but also a little higher price, expect $400. Release about April but expect demand ahead of supply and difficult to get til probably June.

Google has today done a big favor for OnePlus, there was a sizeable N5 to OPO community, those focused on spec+price issue more than brand indoctrinated. Many were assuming N6 $450 but at $650, the OPO fans will stay put.
[Nexus 6  General] italia0101:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/news/samsung-galaxy-note-4-uk-price-confirmed-as-629

Note 4 is £629.. quite a bit more.
[Nexus 6  General] setspeed:
Do we know if the "Okay Google" to wake the phone will work on the N5 when it's upgraded to Lollipop?

Or if we don't know, is there some reasonable guess based on the Snapdragon 800 chip capabilities vs the 805? I recall reading about some dev getting the N5 to wake on voice-commmand a few months ago, but not being able to release to the community because of licencing issues or something? Do we think that Lollipop will enable the low-power core in the S800 to do this?
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I will pay more to have a better non yellow opo screen. I know there are those who got good opo phones. That's great but mine was craps and they refused to exchange it so I returned it. At least this time I won't expect a yellow half bottom of the screen.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
One day, you people will realize that UX > specs. Apple has optimized the crap out of iOS to run amazingly well on the hardware that it's shipped on. Dual core with 1gb of RAM it may be, but it performs as well if not better than the absolute best of the Android phones currently available. Amazing battery life, super fluid EVERYTHING, faster than sh!t... not to mention design and build quality that has yet to be topped by any other manufacturer. I used to think specs were everything too, and then I got the original Moto X and realized how wrong I was. Remember how everyone *****ed and moaned about it only being dual core? Or about how small the battery was? Or about the fact that it only had a 720p screen? None of that mattered because Motorola optimized the sh!t out of the software and it was among the best performing devices released last year. Not to mention it had the absolute BEST user experience of any Android phone to date. Now back to the iPhone- saying it has outdated specs as a means of knocking it down is really a compliment towards iOS in that it runs better on "outdated" specs than Android does on most of its top spec'd flagships. In other words, get some new material, the spec thing is really played out.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Correct the BBC said "$649 (£407)" and yet Nexus 5 $399 becomes £339 comparing playstore USA vs UK prices which is currency exchange plus 36% of which only 20% is explained by UK VAT, I guess the other 15% is due to Boston Tea Party outstanding issues.

So if they do the same then $650 Nexus 6 would be £553.
[Nexus 6  General] setspeed:
Except it isn't "played out". I can see the difference between a 1080p screen and a 720p screen, and there's no way I'd go back to that lower quality now. Especially at the premium price of the iPhone 6, it's an absolute joke.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Droid-life are stating its a Nano Sim Card size.

Aaaghhhhhh a complication!

http://www.droid-life.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nexus-6-vs-nexus-5-vs-nexus-41.jpg
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
The CPW Note 4 price has went from £629 to £649 in the last few days. They're obviously seeing a big demand for it and adding to the price. That's absolutely disgusting!
[Nexus 6  General] mgbotoe:
I am not satisfy with the size at all. With no default stylus to go with it, working this thing with two hands is going to be very uncomfortable. They do not have any one hand kind of functionality put in place and I am guessing they assume we will grab a keyboard from the playstore that will provide that functionality. With that big screen, it will be ideal for multi tasking so they could have atleast offered somewehre to make multitasking even better
[Nexus 6  General] Kushblow:
Would anyone happen to have a OPO invite? Pretty please? Literally ready to purchase the 64gb right now.

Thanks :D
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
Thats because its pure Android, Samsung etc add multitasking and bells and features later. The devs on here will have a custom Rom with multitasking for it in no time!
[Nexus 6  General] Super Chimp:
Is this purely catering to the lucrative Asian market, which favours larger devices, that they've gone for such a massive screen?
[Nexus 6  General] Judge584:
Then go for moto x 2014. Stock android and fast updates as nexus.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I agree that there is a lot can be done with efficient coding and optimisation.

However, not looking at specs apart from storage+size, there is a smooth reliable Nexus 5 5" 32GB for $399, a smooth reliable 64GB OPO 5.5" for $350, or a claimed smooth reliable iphone 6 64GB 4.7" for $749, which is actually better assuming they all equally smooth and reliable?

All for good coding but Apple just takes yer money at silly prices.

My daughter prefers Apple but she has to borrow Android to do things Apple can't, the key reason is Flash is hacked and still works on Android and some content is still Flash. I never need to borrow Apple.
[Nexus 6  General] tonyreimer:
I'm waiting for Nexus 5 (2015) with 64bit processor
[Nexus 6  General] jackal2001:
Is att moto x stock android or is it full of bloat?
[Nexus 6  General] dmeadows013:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffbVw1BrUDk

My thoughts exactly...
[Nexus 6  General] stevew84:
I think by next year phone manufacturers will come to a realization that they cannot go any larger while still maintaining comfortable day to day use. We will most likely see a new screen technology and 1440p being the norm by this time next year, packed with ppi and hopefully at the 5"-5.5" size.
[Nexus 6  General] setspeed:
That's really not acceptable to Joe Public, in my eyes. If someone wants a big phone, for whatever reason, and they're comparing the Note 4, iPhone 6 Plus and the N6, they'll see one which has taken full advantage of the larger screen size (stylus, split screen multitasking, customisable shrinking left/right-handed keyboard, etc), one which has a made a couple of adjustments (reachability feature), and one which has done jack-all to take advantage of or accommodate the gigantic screen/handset.

If you're going to sell a huge phone then at least make it more useable.
[Nexus 6  General] zxyz:
http://www.google.com/nexus

I think this goes to show their intentions. They wanted a nexus to compete in the phablet market and they've made one. The only drawback is they didn't "cut corners" and make it a slightly above average device at a bargain price. It's a phablet, why are people expecting a typical phone. Personally I'm not in the market for a phablet, I think it's too big. Then again I've never used one, and come preorder time I might not be able to help myself.

Probably like a large chunk of you guys. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] Jakic007:
Is the new N6 waterproof?
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
That's what the "Nexus" range is, its untouched Android.
[Nexus 6  General] tweaked:
Sure, if that makes you feel better about my statement.
[Nexus 6  General] thebestiam:
Is it really gonna be released?
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
Have you even seen the display on the iPhone 6? It is hands down the nicest looking display out there and it isn't 1080p. Side by side with the 1080p display on the N5 and it just destroys it. The colors on it are incredibly vivid, the blacks are insanely black, it looks like a sticker on top of the glass, and it's damn near impossible to resolve individual pixels. Who needs 1080p displays when a lower res one like what the 6 has looks this good? I am as anal as it gets when it comes to displays and even I have the ability to concede and say that I've been proven wrong. What is an absolute joke, is how people just look at specs and the fact that it has the Apple logo on it, and write it off without actually giving it a fair chance. While the iPhone may not be for everyone, an underperformer it certainly is not.

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You can buy the Pure edition which is bloat free and has an unlockable bootloader. But even the AT&T one is technically "stock", it just has the typical suite of AT&T apps.
[Nexus 6  General] tonyreimer:
You have as good as an idea as me.
[Nexus 6  General] tweaked:
Go home. You are drunk.

:eek:
[Nexus 6  General] xsystem1:
K1 to N9 :(

You will find N6 unacceptable.
[Nexus 6  General] setspeed:
Android needs to adapt to changing times, phablets are now "a thing", and have been for a few years. Google clearly understands that because they just announced their own one. They ought to adapt the software accordingly, just like they adapt which apps devices see in the Play Store according to screen size.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
I agree that when taken at face value, the iPhone is overpriced, but they aren't the ripoff that everyone makes them out to be. Their design and build quality is second to none, Apple's customer service is the best in the business, and the big clincher here- RESALE VALUE. I just sold my 64gb 5s for $600 a year later. No Android phone will get 66% of it's original asking price a year later. It's all about the bigger picture.

And yeah, there are things (a ton) that Android can do that the iPhone can't... but what the iPhone can do it does FLAWLESSLY.

And I agree that the N5 is the superior value out of the bunch. I'm not too fond of the OPO so I won't comment on that (I don't think it's worth a penny more than what they are being sold for).

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Hardly. Just not burdened with fanboyism. You can take your top spec'd yet laggy Samsung phones, and I'll hang on to my "underspec'd" yet flawlessly executed iPhones and Moto Xs. :D
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
http://www.google.com/nexus/

Interesting they have 5, 6, 9 there. They dropped the 10 and 7 but not the 5... does that imply a new 5 is coming? Or does it imply a price drop when the pre-order for N6 opens?
[Nexus 6  General] GrandMstrBud:
I've had the Nexus One, Nexus S, Galaxy Nexus, Nexus 4, and Nexus 5 all right around the launch date or on the launch date. I am truly disappointed in the size of the Nexus 6. Of course I want one but I know what will happen is I will end up getting rid of it because the 6 Plus and Note 3 were both way to big for me. Also the price is very disappointing, It pains me to say it but I'd rather pay for the Phone 6 over the Nexus 6 but no jailbreak yet for the iPhoen 6 is making me put it off.
[Nexus 6  General] tweaked:
You go gurlfriend!
[Nexus 6  General] ChazzMatt:
Get the Moto X Play, the AT&T version of the upcoming Droid Turbo. 5.2", 1440p, 3GB RAM. It's what Google was testing back in the summer to be the smaller NEXUS 6.

Just passed the FCC last week. Can't be any more expensive than the Nexus 6, plus more manageable.

I'm hoping for a "Pure Edition" version from Motorola.
[Nexus 6  General] :
Our preoccupation with size will be the downfall of humanity one day lol.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
32gb nexus 5 still selling for 60 percent of their original value. Hehe just playing devils advocate. I agree mostly with what you said about iPhone value retention.

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I see no reason for Google to make any drastic price drops like they did with the n4. Maybe a 50 dollar drop at most I'm thinking. Would be nice if they did but I'm not optimistic about it.
[Nexus 6  General] gee2012:
That was a long time ago and meant ironic; ) I think the Nexus 6 is too big and too expensive to be honest. Thinking about getting the Moto X 2nd Generation or maybe the 32GB Nexus 5 :)

Verstuurd vanaf mijn SM-G900F met Tapatalk
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I agree there, I bought a refurbished ipad Air 32GB for $350 and sold the 1st gen iPad Mini for $200, sold next day 5 offering asking price, so a year old, soon to 2 gens behind and sold for 60% of new price.

However I also around same time sold a Nexus 7 for $170 having bought it refurbished 6 months earlier for $160 and whilst I was quietly thinking their foolishness was my gain they were comparing to Apple which is what they were moving from, complaining about IOS 8 and bendgate and fed up with ok but pricey.

Nexus 5 is still selling for $300 on Swappa which is like 75% new. I hunted for bargain and couldn't get for less than $280 which is 70% new RRP.

I don't see the N6 holding as high a value, high price and yet-another-32bit. Many won't care..... everything sells anyway.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
You got me there. But it doesn't surprise me, the N5 is the cream of the crop when it comes to Android phones, in my humble opinion. It may be a year old already, but it certainly doesn't act like it.

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Yeah I shouldn't have said "no Android phone" because clearly there are a small, select group of Android devices that do retain their value. But the vast majority of them do not.