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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jamezr:
That is not the official answer.....the support person basically said "no comment". If you want an official answer you will have to wait until it is released. relax.....they are just doing their jobs.....berating them for doing their jobs won't provide new answers or revelations. We will just have to wait for the phone to be released. If that is not good enough don't pre-order and buy it in the store......
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] chillsen:
its their official statement until the phone is released. relax white knight. nothing you say is changing anything. bugger off and go save the world.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jamezr:
Same back at ya buddy......take out your frustrations on someone else...... go be that angry guy....kick your dog or yell at your kids or be rude to someone to show how much you really mean it! :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] chillsen:
lol you realize this had nothing to do with you from the start right? this is why you're a white knight. handle your own issues, don't worry about anyone else's. nosy people get nothing resolved. nothing affected you in this matter whatsoever. you became nosy and irritating for zero reason, and started a problem with me when nothing was done to you. learn to deal with issues that only affect you. some people get knocked out in real life for butting in problems that aren't theirs.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jamezr:
LOL! Bring it! :) Real life buddy....you and me in a room....you won't walk out.......So don't threaten me....
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] chillsen:
that's cute. shoo fly go through other people's trash, you're not welcome here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Really guys? Come on. We're all adults here. Don't need to take it this far. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zoso28:
I noticed a comment earlier about demos and while they do have special demo software on them, it's just an app. Otherwise they're the same as launch phones. As far as the download booster, the official statement is that it will come with an update, but as we all know they can take as long as they want with updates, so it may never happen
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
What do you mean "the official statement is that it will come with an update"? Has AT&T said anything about it?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] oldblue910:
Where did you see anyone say that it would come with an update? I haven't seen anything from anyone at AT&T regarding that.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zoso28:
Internally.. I just got the memo yesterday. It's not something they're going to announce publicly because most people won't even be aware of it & they don't want to point out a missing feature that other carriers will have.

And the international demo that i have doesn't support LTE, so it won't work even though the phone has the feature. Im curious whether the Tmo model will allow it though b/c their model has the feature and the same LTE bands
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cloudraker:
If this is accurate, it has me more than little irritated. I guess i dont understand why the consumer is expected to be ok with this practice. Im struggling to think of where else its acceptable to strip features from something and sell it for full price without disclosing it openly to your customers. If nothing else its shady. It would be different if literature was available when preorders go live but its not. However, you preorder a device expecting it to be what you see is what you get, and by the time you know, they want to charge you to return the device.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] karmuh:
I'll continue waiting until the release date. I still believe it'l be included day 1 and will continue to believe that until an official statement says otherwise.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Thanks for the info. It's not something they're going to publicly announce? Of course not. They took it out because they don't want people using their network. This is nothing more than a big slap in the face to all their customers who plan on using the S5. They might have just taken touch ID out of the iphone 5S too (oh wait).

The T-Mobile variant does allow it. They have it listed on their website as a feature. Of course, they encourage people to use the network they built.

All of more reason why carriers should NOT touch devices. I really blame Samsung. They copy Apple in every aspect except letting the carriers modify their devices and omit great features that make the phone.

I look forward to a phone that is untouched by a carrier and completely supports their network. Hopefully in near future that will happen.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cloudraker:
Its fairly simple, if you want to sell more data, higher date packages, then include features that make people want to use the network for data.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
They don't want people on the data network at all. They've been like this for years now. Advertising 2GB for $25 and advising customers to connect to WIFI as much as possible. Having your device automatically connect to any AT&T hotpsot when you drive past Starbucks and your songs on spotify stop. Customers using additional megabytes makes the poor cry baby CEO invest more infrastructure. I take GREAT pleasure in shutting WIFI off.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zoso28:
I definitely understand the frustration but personally don't download anything big enough that Wi-Fi isn't fast enough for, so I don't really care about the boost feature. I do agree that carriers need to take their grubby paws off our phones, but on the same note it's a business, and every business is out to make as much as possible so it really comes down to a cost-benefit analysis for each individual customer. I've used and worked for every major carrier & so far att has been by far the best for me, between coverage/speed and customer care. Tech support/retail experience is a different issue, but I'm pretty self sufficient so those don't matter to me. My major gripe is the locked bootloaders, but that's another thread.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
I give them credit for building out a great network. It really is the best where I live. Used Verizon and all I get is spotty LTE and 1X. T-Mobile is mostly EDGE by me and their signal fades out very quickly. I'm not saying AT&T is evil or the worst carrier, its just annoying when they modify these devices and omit important features. If they plan on restoring the download boost feature in a future OTA update, then why even bother disabling it.

Anyway, I finally got to play with an S5 today at best buy. It was not the AT&T branded version. It had download booster too. What an amazing device. I love how TW looks now. The more flat look through the UI really does it justice. The camera is truly amazing and was super fast. Something that always bothered me on the S3, S4, Note 2, and Note 3 was how slow the camera was. Screen quality was amazing, but not that much different from the S4 or Note 3.

What I did not like:

The white model looks great with the black dots everywhere on the front. The back is nice but can feel better.

I hate that they got rid of the menu button. You are now forced to use the built in menu setting within each app. I prefer the menu key and always loved Android for this.

The device is VERY creaky. Apply any pressure and it creaks. Very annoying from such a high-end flagship.

I do not like how the home button feels or clicks.

Overall, it has noticeable changes from the S4 and N3, but its nothing groundbreaking. I am just so happy they optimized the UI and there is no lag anymore.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zoso28:
I agree with pretty much all that. & it's blazing fast.. no lag whatsoever so far. Auto focus is 0.3 seconds, camera allows 20% more light. Also it's the first phone with phase detection auto focus (basically means it's better at judging focus for adjacent pixels) and pre/post editing/focusing. The menu button swap sucks big time, but the fingerprint sensor works well for me. There's a chathead type call notification when you're in an app which is awesome, and there's now a toolbar type pop-up for quick access to core apps, in addition to multiwindow. I'm not fond of the housing, but I'm used to the note 3 back, and a lot of it has to do with waterproofing. There's even a notification when you leave the charging port cover open. I can't think of anything else I've noticed at the moment but I'll add more as I come across it.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] daraj:
DO we know if the Tmobile variant has full AT&T LTE bands( like Note 3)? If yes then that might be a solution for us ATT users since their variant is pretty much Samsung stock untouched.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
The T-Mobile variant does FULLY SUPPORT all of AT&T's bands. It is a mystery why they include band 17 on all their LTE models considering they don't use that band at all.

I would actually advise against using the T-Mobile GS5 on AT&T. When I used the T-Mobile Note 3 on AT&T, I had problems with LTE signal strength. The LTE signal was always horrible. In places where I would have a weak LTE signal using an A&T branded device, I'd often be on H+ only on the T-Mobile Note 3. Others reported the same. Can't speak for the T-Mobile S5 yet, but I bet the experience would be similar. The phone is optimized for their network (AWS, PCS 1900). AT&T uses lower frequencies (which is why we get better service). The phone may support them, but they are not optimized.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] RaptorMD:
The US Carrier networks cannot handle the demands they already have because they are not making sufficient investment in their backhaul. I have used both AT&T and Verizon both in excellent cell service in the same area and guess what AT&T LTE comes in at a good 16+Mbps and Verizon a pathetic 8Mpbs and that is on a good day.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SolarTrans:
If I were you, I'd get a white phone and get a black backplate (maybe the wireless charging one?). I think the black looks best on the back, and white on the front.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Considering getting the blue cover for my white one when its available. Also prefer to rid my phone of the AT&T branding. Thanks for the suggestion though. :cool:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SolarTrans:
Yep no branding is always welcome in my book :P

Color is of course a preference, and IMO black and blue are the two best options.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
I wouldn't use it either but its just the principle. AT&T isn't allowing us to use certain features, that's so wrong.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
I believe the only feature they've taken out of the S5 is download booster. As wrong as it is, I can see them doing it. The reasoning behind it, so people don't impact their network, or get confused to as why their using data with WIFI on, or not knowing download booster was on idk.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
From my understanding download booster just use both cellular data and WiFi so why would it screw up their network?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] oldblue910:
It would create extra traffic. Even more importantly, though, there's a very real possibility of people burning through their data plans even though they have wifi on.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] barondebxl:
I'm on pay as you go so it would kill my 2GB of data. But then again ppl always/use their regular data plan, download booster just adds the WiFi to make the download faster. I don't know I guess they are worried about traffic
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Because they don't want people on the network at all. This is just one of those things that threatens that. It costs AT&T a lot more to invest infrastructure when people go over. That and maintaining the network. That is why they always whine about how expensive it is to build out the network and force people to use wifi.

Exactly. The average consumer is not smartphone oriented and would get confused by download booster. They would think since they are connected to WIFI that they are not using their data. Then bam they get hit with overages.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] karmuh:
Lol, it's not that easy to go over your data limit. With AT&T, they send you about 3-4 warning texts as you start approaching your limit. Not only that, I'm sure there are warnings when you enable the download booster, which is obviously disabled by default. On top of that, download booster only kicks in downloading files over 30MB in size.

If you go over your data limit, it's your own fault, especially after ignoring the warning texts. Playing the ignorance card isn't an excuse.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SolarTrans:
+1

It's about AT&T not wanting people on their network. Nothing more.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] brazilian812:
Anyone know if the AT&T (or any version) of the S5 will have the always-listening Google Now ala the Moto X? Not just on the home screen but with the screen off will the phone respond to 'Okay Google Now'? I see that it has a separate Audience-brand listening processor but haven't seen this feature mentioned...

Anyone that has seen it in store try it out?

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Pure+:
I agree. I have kept my unlimited. No way I'll ever willingly give it up. And if they send these phones out without the feature I'll be peeved. And yeah. That's the same thing I do if I ever go over 5gb.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Yeah. I won't ever give it up. It's just the throttling that gets me. And I can understand throttling to maintain the network. Just because I have unlimited doesn't mean I should get hundreds and hundreds of gigs at high speed. I know how it works. My problem is the throttling at 5GB. That was fine 2 years ago, but now data consumption has drastically increased. I remember 2-3 years ago hitting 3GB was very, very hard to do. Now I'm always hitting 5GB a month. They need to make the throttle at least 10GB.

And yes, the feature will be disabled. Nothing so far as proven that it will be included. When I get the phone, I will call and ask to speak to a supervisor and politely voice my frustration. Maybe it will knock some money off my bill.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Pure+:
Yeah the 10gb would be so good. I hit 5gb as early as a week into my billing cycle. And every time my response is the same "That's a joke Right!!?!?" - Richard Sherman
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jayv81:
i hit my 5gb very quick also. sometimes it makes me think that what i use late into my cycle isnt hitting the billing fast enough and they are rolling that over to the next cycle. just sometimes it seems like i get throttled 3 days into my new billing period.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Pure+:
That's really weird man. Idk why that would be happening..... I have a hook up at AT&T that's resets mine if I absolutely need it. But that's only when the throttling gets really bad. Sometimes I barely notice it tbh. LTE traffic is pretty light in my area most of the time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jayv81:
not sure if that is exactly what is happening but it is a thought. i use alot of data because of my work situation. i am away from home for 3 weeks at a time and have no access to wifi while out. so i rack up usage pretty quick.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cloudraker:
The problem with this theory is that the averae user also doesnt use their phone to download a lot of large files. Given that it only works when downloading files of 30mb or larger then the average consumer would never be impacted. About the only exception to that would be either updates or really large appz and given only a portio of it would actually be downloaded per the data network, I think the impact would be near immeasurable.

It should not have any impact on streaming or web browsing. So I fail to see how in the long run the average consumer would exceed their data unless they are on the low 350 mb plans and such.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] snobrdr2324:
I hope this feature is disabled. I am a grad student at a very large university and ATTs LTE Is less than .5mbps with 300+ pings from 9am-5pm. This is with a very very extensive wifi network around campus that a large majority of people are on. I understand it seems it is only 30MB size and up downloads but the network simply can't handle a bunch of people who don't know what they are doing using up LTE and wifi considering wifi is even over loaded at times.

I understand I'm in a bit of a rare situation and in a normal not overloaded area it really shouldn't be a big deal, but where I am the network needs as much offloading to wifi as possible.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] deepen915:
I don't see why they would disable it. They can make more money if we get overages. I don't see how us using Wi-Fi benefits them in any other way then to reduce network congestion. But anyway, AT&T LTE has been pretty reliable even with all the users. Also, they now have the new 10GB Mobile Share plans, so why would they care if we use more data? I think Samsung needs to really crack down on what carriers do to their software. There need to be some strict rules preventing carriers from messing up their devices.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] GeorgeP:
I agree. I use my data a lot for business travel. The last thing I need is my data speed, while I'm in a meeting (with no wifi), being degraded because a bunch a people with perfectly good wifi connections (like some guy sitting at Starbucks down the street) think the wifi there isn' t fast enough.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] karmuh:
Well, the T-Mobile model (SM-G900T) has the download booster feature, as seen in this video. At 1:38 you see the model number and at 3:51 she enables the download booster. If T-Mobile can afford to keep the feature in there, I can only assume AT&T will as well. I guess we'll see in the coming days.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] oldblue910:
Verified. The AT&T models shipping to customers do not have download booster.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] daraj:
I would only be surprised otherwise! Anyway, whats your source?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] oldblue910:
Someone on XDA who has one. I've got a request in to AT&T PR for comment and I'm running the story on Android Police tomorrow.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Excellent news!!! Of course they'll give some stupid, very hard to understand answer on why its disabled.

How do you put in a request for a PR comment?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] DISTRAUGHTKLOWNZ:
I just received mine and can confirm it's disabled.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
So I had about an hour phone conversation with AT&T and Samsung on the download booster. I learned 10 valuable things today:

1. AT&T doesn't know what it even is.

2. Samsung doesn't know what it is.

3. AT&T blamed Samsung

4. Samsung said they make phones for the carriers, not the individual

5. AT&T loyalty department didn't have a clue why they would omit this feature.

6. She thought it was a carrier feature, not a Samsung feature.

7. Can't escalate this because nobody knows what it is.

8. They can't discuss or support the S5 until April 11 (despite people already having it).

9. AT&T doesn't know why you would you need a feature like this when you have WIFI and LTE (yeah I know).

10. What's the S5?

Seriously considering T-Mobile because I am so sick of waiting for phones and having AT&T customize the crap out of them screwing us. I was pulling 30 down on T-Mobile's LTE today and then 14mbps on their 3G. Yes, the signal is weaker, but that's still pretty good. May have to deal with the 2G areas. I forget they have wifi calling.

210-821-4105 AT&T Corporate Headquarters.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] karmuh:
Lmao, that is hilarious, but incredibly sad and pathetic at the same time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] kcttocs:
Food for thought....

Ok, so I have 6meg connection at my house. My LTE clocks in about 25Meg at my house. So theoretically I should be able to download a movie with speeds close to 31Meg right? Will Google or Amazon even serve up the movie or file at those speeds? Back in the old days, you would be lucky to download a single file from a single website at speeds more than 3 or 4 meg, so if this is still the case, I just don't see much of a benefit, if I need a file quickly or at least as fast as the server I am downloading from will give it to me, then I can just turn wifi off, because my LTE is screaming fast, at least at my house it is and that measly 6 meg connection at home won't save that much time in the end.

Personally, I'd rather have an upload booster rather than a download booster, my upload at home is only 1meg, and my LTE upload at home is actually faster than my download LTE...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SuperTeece:
Where did you find that info? I'm digging around in mine and see no trace of the booster's existence, on or off.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] DISTRAUGHTKLOWNZ:
The fact that you can't find it, means it's not there. Otherwise you would see it under connections. Google it for the tmobile variant, they have it. You can see what it is looks like and where it is...I believe there is a YouTube video.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] chillsen:
someone in the "first impressions" thread said download booster is coming in an update in a month or so. His source was his friend from corporate. again, i have no idea how legit this guy is but it is what he posted. something with the bloatware not being compatible and they didn't want to risk a later release date. :fingers-crossed:
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SolarTrans:
This honestly isn't too big of a deal for me now that I think of it :P

I don't get LTE in my house or school because of all the insulation/thick walls. These are the only two places I'm ever on WiFi, so I guess I'd be pretty unaffected XD

I'm still upset that they'd remove this functionality though.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dligon:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/1...-kill-off-galaxy-s5-download-booster-feature/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Interesting. Did not think Sprint would take the feature out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] brivette007:
At least we're not the only ones, and Verizon, too. I'm now doubting we'll see it in an update. :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] SolarTrans:
Buy TMo!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] daraj:
what about LTE bands? is it fully compatible with all LTE bands on-board?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] PuckX:
This is so retarded. Granted I don't even know if I would ever use the feature, however, its a feature that is on a piece of hardware I own that I am paying for what the hell gives AT&T (or other carriers) the right to disable it? Especially when this is one of Samsung's selling points? If I was Samsung I would file a suit against the carriers, this is their product, not AT&T's.

You phone carrier's always wonder why we want to hack our phones and put different ROM's on them? Prime example right here.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Yes they are. I could actually use the feature because at home, I have great WIFI and great LTE. My LTE is about 30mbps at home and WIFI is about 60mbps. Anyway, what surprises me is that Sprint took it off. Usually they are pretty friendly towards their customers; not locking their bootloaders and whatnot.

The truth though is I can see their reasoning behind it. Some bozo turns this on and downloads a little too much and then denies doing it when he's calling in to AT&T asking for credits on his data overages. T-Mobile doesn't have that to worry about so that may be a factor. T-Mobile LTE also doesn't work indoors well due to the high frequencies. So in reality, I don't see how often T-Mobile users will actually use this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jamezr:
+++++ on this ^^^^^^^^^

I probably will never use this feature....but it is still an advertised featured. IF they are going to disable it then they should they should disclose that information. Not just do it and give no explanation. Some have said there were issues with the feature and it will be enabled with a software update. great but again AT&T (all carriers) should let their customers know this......