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[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
1. Large bezel (bigger than the S5 that is already too big for display, but M8 has smaller display). Some length is due to the speakers, but seems still too long. Note 3 long.

2. 2600 mah battery is too small for a fixed battery design on a 5" 1080p LCD with the chipset and all the features it has.

3. 4MP phone is too low. I get that sensors can make a difference, but still too low (if want large frame pictures). An 8MP would have made more sense.

4. The headphone location is odd.

5. I actually prefer a plastic build, since can absorb kintetic energy better for drops. Metal transfers all energy to the weakest point: the display. Metal also makes the device more hot to the touch when at load.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jspradling7:
I know this isn't a solution for everyone wanting the double tap off, but I use Apex launcher and set up the double tap action in it to run the app called Screen Off by Katecca. The double tap on and swipe on still work.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alhadee12:
I just tried the double tap feature for on and off. It does work.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jspradling7:
Your double tap off works from the home screen or just the lock screen?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sixstring:
IIRC it only works for off in lockscreen...
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alhadee12:
It only occurs from sleep to the lock screen and back to sleep.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Bigal77:
I never use a lock screen.....so I should be fine to knock off and on?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keith777:
I'd say there is 2 things not to like -

The camera, why after so many complaints about the camera on the M7 they stuck with 4MP is beyond me, they should have made it 8mp at least.

And why oh WHY does a company finally add the normal onscreen buttons for Android but keep a giant bezel with only the purpose of showing the HTC logo, when it's already on the back?? This phone would have been a great size for a 5" screen if they just left that out.

Other than these wow great job HTC, even have the SD slot now. But why they miss such obvious things I don't understand.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alpinesun:
There's not much to dislike when I'm gonna root it anyways. Sense isn't the worst android offender but it had still got to go. The camera sucks but I have a Dslr, and even my note 3 for that. I'm just glad they added an external memory slot. That alone sold me. Beautiful phone overall.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaa-Yoo:
Things i dont like:

The wasted bezel area - Maybe they had issues with pushing the screen closer to the edges, but I cant fathom why they would leave that black bar with no function at all.

The size - Yes, making it out of mostly metal will increase its size a little, but the M8 grew by a lot. Whats inside of this device that requires that much space?

The power button position - FFS HTC, put the button on the side (either side) and leave it there!!!

The camera - Basically the biggest complaint people had about the M7 and they did nothing to address it. Incredible that they didnt get this pushed up to at least 5mp.

I sometimes wonder if HTC throw away last years design data and use a fresh batch of engineers for every flagship they develop. It seems like they always start from scratch and try to re-invent perfection or make no improvements at all. Perfection should be refined, not re-invented. It feels like little refinement was done on the M8 compared to the M7, Apple and Samsung are very good at refining their flagships. This is why many complain, we see what Apple and Samsung can do and wonder why HTC cant do it too.

All that said, im a fan of HTC, Ive had a new HTC device every single year for the past decade, way back starting with the XDAii mini. This year may be year where i dont get a new one. If there truly is no way to have capacitive buttons on that black bar, then i will hang on to my M7. For some reason having all that space there starting at me serving no purpose at all, really really bugs me. :silly:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frankie1588:
I hate that they got rid of the stock browser. I loved the one on the m7. Also that it's locked on Verizon of course. I am loving the device otherwise.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RCJ89:
*Headphone Jack on the bottom

*ugly black space with htc logo which makes phone taller (and uglier imo) when not needed. Wouldn't be so bad had they kept the capacitive buttons

*Dual Camera, i would prefer a 13mp camera
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frankie1588:
Why don't you like the headphone jack in the bottom? It's much better when it's in your pocket. I also forgot the power button. I find it more difficult to press now than when it was on the left side.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eortizr:
100% agree. specially the wasted bezel area. it just have no purpose at all.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RCJ89:
As it means i have to put the phone upside down in my pocket, so the headphone cord doesn't get bent. I have always preffered jacks at the top of the phone.

Just like you have a minor gripe with the new positioning of the power button mine is with the positioning of the headphone jack

however that isn't my biggest issue, the biggest issue is that wasted space under the screen which makes the phone look ugly imo and extra tall for no reason, was put off straight away when i first saw the pics but decided to give it a real life view and just confirms i don't like it. the m7 was better proportioned and i didn't like the htc logo underneath the screen on that either
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonesdenano:
Mmm, i like all... Also will get it in two weeks. What is more, i have one m7, once u have aluminum in ur hands, its impossible to handle a plastic phone. I don't need to cover my One with a paper bug cause its ugly and outdated design.

Plus... I will cook a rom for every single carrier and firmware!

Now M8 got better!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KidCarter93:
Thread Re-Opened

Now that I've cleaned up all those posts, I don't expect to have to do so again!

Apparently people aren't allowed to have opinions on the internet :eek:

If someone posts an opinion you don't like, don't reply to it. If someone posts something offensive, report it. If someone is arguing, report it. It's really not difficult.

Now, stick to the forum rules, stick to what I've said above and get back to having a discussion, NOT an argument.

Regards,

- KidCarter93

Forum Moderator
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maniacaus:
The LED notification light. Not RGB and hidden again.

Hope it's a bit brighter in person. Can anyone confirm?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RCJ89:
It is about as bright as it is on m7 and its located nearer the middle of the phone, near the right side of the top speaker
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chalid:
The three biggest problems I have:

- The phone is too large for this screen size. It's much taller than similar phones and even close to the Note 3 (5.5 inch) than to the Galaxy S4 (5 inch). The black bar below the screen is the problem here. Without it, the phone would have the right size.

- The camera. Why 4 MP - again? All the reviews show the same problems like before. What good is the larger sensor if there aren't enough pixels to shoot sharp images? They just shifted the low light problem in other camera phones to another imho much bigger problem.

- The position of the power button couldn't be any worse.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaythenut:
i like The position of the power button a lot better then m7 ,well thats my opinion :D
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xShin:
My LED notification light is brighter than the one on my M7 was. I wouldn't say it's the brightest thing in the world, but I've always been able to notice it easily, whereas on my M7 I usually would never notice that it was blinking.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I used one of these off of the security tether at a Verizon store today, and I for sure agree. It's in the same spot as on the iPhone 5s (my daily driver), and it's easy to reach with your thumb if you hold it by the sides. Camera isn't a problem to me, because the comparison between the M7 in this video http://youtu.be/Cumo08eViHk shows a pretty handsome improvement. Yes, it is too tall, but that actually didn't bother me in the slightest when I used one today. The Notification LED is pretty bright, and it's integrated in one of the speaker grills on the top right.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nav525:
Am I the only one realizing that the space the bezel is using is also being used by the internals of the phone? So yeah, the bezel isn't needed anymore because of the on screen buttons but that space is most likely being used by the components of the phone regardless.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaa-Yoo:
Im sure the space is being fully used by components inside the device, its just when you see how well other manufacturers are able to fit components into a more compact space (samsung squeezed a 5" screen into the s4, a device of near equal size to the M8), it just begs to question why HTC has trouble doing the same. But ok, they couldnt get the physical size any smaller for whatever reason, the least they could have done was make that empty space useful. Heck, they could have just centered the screen to make it less obvious and more symmetrical. Anyway, i hope that black bar is capacitive and can be made useful, if so i'll be getting an M8 regardless of the other issues. :laugh:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Rippley05:
Huge bezel making the phone too tall. It's not my job to design the phone, it's my job to decide whether I, me, myself like the design. I don't.

Camera is poor, again. I don't wanna adjust lighting, settings and look through 20 batches of pictures to find a couple good ones. I want to point and shoot. Other manufacturers get this. HTC doesn't. This thinking is an example of why they consistently lose money.

The UI is clean, but kinda boring. Not that big of a deal tho.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Ironically the reason for the tall phone and crazy big bezel is the second camera lens. 4MP is nuts and will hurt sales. One step forward with the sd slot, but offset by the camera- for those that value this feature highly. Should have been 8MP.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonesdenano:
I don't like about m8 that it's design its too beautiful, i mean.. Its no fear for others manufacturers that still make plastic cheap phones.

I hate that. Cant be possible
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stixxbixby:
I prefer the more symmetrical design of the m7, the two tone aesthetics, front AND back machine edged bezels, size, etc...ntm ois & beats. At least the black bar on the original is host to the capacitive buttons. The on screen keys just diminish usable screen real estate anyway - untill custom roms provide a means to eliminate them that is...

Sent from my Blue M7
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonesdenano:
Will be able to add sweep to wake to it? As we have with the m7?i love that feature
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AngioNicholai:
I hate the nav bar.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rushless:
Everything has a negative. In this case the metal will transfer all kinetic energy to the weakest point. The display when dropped.

I have dropped the S4 a few times. The plastic design with removable battery cover absorbs drops better and is not as hot to touch when running at full load.

The M8 is nice, but the nice design has costs. Two biggies being the drop issue and the fixed battery. Pros and cons regardless of device.

Added: I wish the device did not have the second lens so not as tall, 8MP and a 3000 mah battery.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonesdenano:
Sure, i think drops is luck, i got plastic hox and dropped it from 3 meters and nothing, and aluminum One, dropped from two meters and not even a scratch.

But well, is also like sudden death... Just luck
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] KidCarter93:
I also prefer the design of the m7. It's nothing in particular which makes the m8 design bad but the m7 just looks a lot more professional.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JasonJoel:
Needs bigger battery
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lunercrab:
After using the phone for one full day I like it so far...battery life for me is better then my m7...I'm at 11hrs with 3hrs 48m screen time at 38% left running stock...only problem I don't like is if I zoom in on a picture and try to take a screen shot I can't do it without the on screen touch buttons showing up on the bottom...I wouldn't say I'm particularly thrilled with the updated phone but selling point for me was the microsd card and to me the pics are better then they were on my m7 imo
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blestsol:
not digging the battery and camera.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] daboyal006:
Camera.. they could of even raised it to 5 ultra pixel ..why stay with 4 and they removed optical stabilization ?? Everything else about the phone is gorgeous. A little slippery also
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] treIII:
This camera just sunk the ship we know as HTC. Last years phone didn't do well and this will do worse. Can't believe they shot their self in the foot after all the bad reviews of the camera last year. At the point of time when comparing the release dates of m7 and m8 the m7 is a much better phone last year than this phone is this year. The sales will more than likely be worse and IMO when someone pays this much for a phone yes they should expect a good high quality camera for at least cell phone abililities. Comparing apples to apples this camera is terrible. I've bought an HTC phone for the past 4 years and this phone sent me away. I'll keep my n5. I didn't pay a lot and I got what I paid for. The m8 metal looks great but beyond that the proportioning is hideous. With were they thinking? This phone could be much smaller. And a phone this big in length should have more screen size. They added screen size but the on screen navigation buttons take up the added space. HTC did great with the m7 and all the innovations. Other than the looks of the metal body which looks great this phone will be a flop IMO to the people are ho have stayed true to HTC. The speakers are the biggest selling point to me now. The phone looks really awkward and the length makes the screen look very skinny. The here's to change campaign just got totally dumped. Why htc ? Why?

Sent from my Nexus 5 using Xparent Blue Tapatalk 2
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Frankie1588:
So I saw someone else say on the VZW forums how the HTC One M8 for Verizon doesn't include the flashlight, but it does on other variants. Does anyone who has a variant from anyone other than VZW have a stock browser app? Just want to make sure its not just missing from the VZW variant and I could get an apk.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Raech:
Well if it exists I can't find it. No way to turn down vibration for calls and notifications. No way to one button set it to turn off all vibrations that I can see. Some apps do not have this option in their app. Annoying.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 1ManWolfePack:
I bet your flashlight/torch is a widget.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jspradling7:
I case someone is interested, if you don't use the swipe up motion from the bottom of the screen to start Google Now you can use that swipe up motion turn the screen off. Install the Screen Off app and activate it. The next time you swipe up it will ask if you want to use Google Now or Screen off.

I happen to hate the power button being on top of the phone so being able to double tap screen off while using Apex or Nova, or swipe up screen off on the factory launcher solves the problem for me.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EVOme:
Which app are you talking about for the stock launcher? By Katecca?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HtcOneJon:
I have tried every phone, and owned most of them. Have to say I loved my HTC One, more than the Z1 I replaced it with, and more than the S4 I am using temporarily now (I love new phones). One thing that disappointed me with the One was the low MP count, although I could live with it.

Up to now, the best camera phones i've used have been the HTC One M7 and the S4, both of which almost match each other side by side for quality, with the M7 winning out on the Wide angle and being able to fit more into a shot, more quickly, and the S4 winning out on an overall great pic which you could zoom into.

The M8, as much as I hate to say it disappoints me. Mainly because the buttons should of remained off the screen like the S4 preserving the 5" for useage, and the Camera needed a bump to 8MP in my honest opinion.

The pictures seem to have odd noise, and blurry focus in random places on the pictures.

Wonderful phone still, but not worth an upgrade from M7 in my opinion.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jspradling7:
Yes.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hgoldner:
Cannot fathom why the default launcher and daydream don't autorotate when everything else does. Come on, already, it's KitKat, not froyo. One other thing, I LOVE that you can display the battery percentage. I have literally rooted phones solely for that purpose. So why can't we make the icon disappear when the percentage is there? Makes no "sense."
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dbdynsty25:
The At&t version does NOT have a flashlight included, but it does have the stock HTC Browser as well as Chrome.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mswlogo:
Overall I like the phone. So these are real nit picks.

I've said "phone is too big" on the last 5 phones. So I will know in a year or so :)

The phone is way to slick feeling too. Like there is lacquer over the aluminum. The M7 felt anodized.

I put E-Grip on all my phones. But you HAVE to put a case or something on this phone or it will be in the toilet sooner or later.

M7 buttons drove me crazy being too flush. But now I might be back to shutting the phone down when I stoop by holding power button in (I keep it in my front pocket).

I don't like the chrome around the edge.

I find the antenna status a bit annoying. It seems to be grabbing LTE better than M7.

Not sure I like gesture unlock. I can't clean the screen with out powering it off.

My Exchange email is only showing half my Calendar entries. Not sure where that problem is, could be work.

My Weather clock just disappeared.

Not sure I like the on screen home buttons. I seem to have a dance with them here and there.

Single camera is pretty good. Duo is a gimmick, plain as day. I will have my eye on the G5 but most likely will keep M8.

It really isn't a huge upgrade over the M7, I'm glad my wife is keeping our M7.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] the_passenger:
Design wise, I wished HTC should have used the capacitive buttons at the bottom black stripe. The Back button, the logo should be the Home button, and Recent button (just like how they have them with the DNA)

Maybe the M9 will be like that.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cy88:
I wish the font size can go at least one step smaller like the G2 does.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] homer285:
HTC logo taking up realestate, the corners are too rounded compared to the M7, camera is not much improvement on the M7 especially video since OIS is not incorporated, no 32gb or 64gb device offered in Aus at launch unlike last year, (price is ridiculous at over $900 retail! honestly who's gonna pay that?)too long and ugly back when compared to M7. Basically a little disappointing I was so excited for this release Im sure its an awesome device but Im gonna hang on to my red 64gb M7 and wait for something else.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mswlogo:
I guarantee there isn't "air" under that logo. They probably could have kept it shorter if they went with a smaller battery then folks would ***** about that.

Battery life seems amazing so far.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] homer285:
I dont doubt that for a second, however, consider this, the M8 can only live in "air" some of this years competition can do it in wet and dusty environments, it may seem insignificant but I bet you any money it wont be!

Oh and battery life well that remains to be seen, the device has only been released a few days surely not enough time to thoroughly (insert correct word here my brain cant find it) the battery. I want to love the M-ate just has too many things running against it for me.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonesdenano:
Sorry to ask. Is it stock rom? And which firmware /carrier!?

Thanks
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Stock, newest 1.54.401.5, unlocked and using EE sim so strong 4G signal most the day.

Battery life is good for me.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragonesdenano:
Yes, i have m7 and battery looks really better. Im impressed!

Thanks for fast reply
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaw23:
I have Unlocked with an EE sim ( was initially with voda but rubbish signal ) yet when I check for Firmware update it saying my phone is up to date. However Im still on original firmware :( Anyway battery seems really goo. got the phone Yest, had 87% when i turned it on at 13.30pm...after downloading and installing all my contacts settings apps etc and a lot of new phone paying :D I was on 19 % at 22.35pm and had 4hrs.46min screen on. I am VERY happy with that. I assume it will only improve :D
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puremind:
You chose the HTC One M8 because it had the big front facing speakers. You can't have it both ways. I'd take the speakers of the one any day over the smaller footprint and crappy audio of the LG G2. I like the G2, but couldn't live with the poor speaker quality. I could hear that even on the system notification sounds....
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Fidelio_o:
Agree with you there. Don't miss the G2 or anything but man it was the perfect size. I don't the size of the M8 or anything. And yes I prefer these speaker over anything else.

---------- Post added at 03:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:49 PM ----------

Battery hasn't been a problem for me. Really for me and my usage it has been pretty awesome. I've had it since day one and it's gradually improved.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puremind:
I mean at least the horizontal bezel is less than on the S5 relative to screen size (on par with Z2). I am less bothered about vertical size as i can hold the phone in the middle vertically, but I can't do the same horizontally. 71mm is optimal for me. The G2 was 71mm and my Asus Padfone is 72.8. The One has 70,6mm.

Honnestly to me the Z2 is the only really contender. It has more Screen PLUS speakers in the same honizontal Frame as the S5. Though I have read that the speakers on the Sony are unfortunately not Boomsound quality.

Probably I will replace my S4 with the One and my Asus Padfone (battery powerhouse) with the Z2. I really like having a device with big battery when I am going to be out for most of the day. Whether or not I get the Z2 will depend on whether I can cope with the 73mm and somewhat edgy/blocky design!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sindroid:
M8 becomes like M7.. A big WOW on first touch and use. But then comes the problems and flaws. Yeah that bezel at the bottom is horrendous. Why on earth did they put the power button on right side? Im seriously gonna pass on this phone. Looking to replace my M7 with a G2. And they are quite cheap now.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] l7777:
The headphone jack edges are sharp. I hold the phone with my left hand and use my pinky finger to hold the bottom. It just happens to land on the headphone jack which isn't rounded like the micro USB port. Not enough to be a big problem, just an annoyance.