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[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
I wouldn't necessarily blame HTC, They've put a lot of effort into our Lolipop versions, They removed certain animations to prevent more issues with Lolipop, And applied thier framework in the best way they could, Let's not mention that seeing that nasty memory leak is non-existance on the M8, Just look at the SGS6, Samsung didn't put a lot of effort into thier framework to have a work around.

HTC is certainly trying thier best, Sense 6&7 are so different from what HTC used to be at, As people had said the M8 did have an amazing battery life on Sense 6+4.4.2/4.4.4, Why did that change on 5.0.1 (When the Sense version is basically the same)? Google. I can tell you that even on 5.1.1 I have drainage while the phone is idle (SoT is good and all but even so, it's just one side of the coin), whereas with Sense 7, I have barely to none.

There are some flaws with HTC no doubt, but you can clearly see they are trying, although thier attitude lately has been bad (HTC Sense TV, 5.1 Source, removal of Zoe, etc), it still isn't as bad as other manufacturers, Even though I feel like HTC is going a bit backwards, Hopefully they'll be on track soon enough, However with that being said thier framework is great and it's not at fault, I don't think anyone can dis-credit thier efforts there.

If we can get 5.1.1 without any issues along with Sense 7 and bugless, I give no crap, It's better to have it fully working and flawless, no matter how long it will take, yes it's more time than last year, so what?
[One (M8) General] Android The Greek:
No just the rom
[One (M8) General] ahac85:
So I would need to flash the firmware zip again?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) General] stuart0001:
No. The firmware will not be changed by a nandroid restore.
[One (M8) General] ahac85:
Once you flash the firmware, it's not necessary to flash radio again is it?

Some threads report that a firmware flash is suppose to be followed by a radio update. Is this method correct?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) General] dgtiii:
Flashing firmware updates your radio, no need for a separate flash.
[One (M8) General] instigator008:
Is it ok to flash missmatched firmware/software? I'd like the Rogers radio on the euro software
[One (M8) General] jlevy73:
If you're s-off and have supercid, you can flash any combination of firmware/radio and software.
[One (M8) General] EddyOS:
It could potentially have a negative impact on the battery/GSM reception but you can always give it a go
[One (M8) General] Vandal4125:
I imported my M8 off eBay (http://www.ebay.com/itm/HTC-One-M8-...20968?pt=Cell_Phones&var=&hash=item7b81f2660e) and am using it in South Africa. My firmware etc, is attached below. Could someone tell me if I am using the right firmware version for my country as I have looked at the battery stats thread and I see 90% of people get 7hrs+ on screen time on their M8's while I 'guesstimated' mine would total around 5hrs if I were to run it down to 0%.

Perhaps I am using the wrong firmware? Anyone have an idea when I would receive the latest update I read about last week?

I realize these are all quite nooby questions and I do apologize :cyclops:
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
I'm on the 1.54.401.10 firmware right now.

You shouldn't go on what firmware South Africa uses now, it's not even available here yet. :eek: (Useless, seriously...) I imported from the UK, it's originally a French device though, also international variant.

To be honest though, my battery life seems to have gotten a bit worse since the last firmware update. :eek:
[One (M8) General] shankly1985:
New system update just popped up. O2 network now my question don't we have to wait on network operator anymore? Are branded phones also getting the updates at the same time?
[One (M8) General] EddyOS:
That's just the o2 version of the unbranded 1.54.401.10 OTA from the other week. Seems Operators are beginning to catch up!
[One (M8) General] snoof:
Hi here,

Just bought a M8 (to replace M7). I bought it on Amazon France, just received it today and it was by default in Polish (!), just check CID is : T-MOB009 and software is 1.57.118.2 (this update has been done right after first start).

Was i just want to know :

1) Is it a branded firmware ? (think yes)

2) How are updates with this CID ? (quick, late, never ...)

3) Should i change it ? (if possible, didn't had a look at this time)

My M7 was HTC__203 wich is CID for French devices (my htc one s had also HTC__203)

Thx for good advices !
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
1) Looks that way yes.

2) http://xdaforums.com/tmobile-htc-one-m8

That's the link to all the T-Mobile M8 threads, might want to ask around there.

3) You could try and change it again, especially if you specifically bought an international unbranded phone and instead ended up with a T-Mobile variant for some reason. Could also try and go with Supercid if you want.

Personally I'd probably change it out for a new device though.

I imported my device from the UK to South Africa, it's also HTC__203, definitely a french device, I knew that before I even knew the cid as it was blatantly obvious on the packaging. :)

Updates from the carriers here doesn't bother me though, as long as I get the newest from HTC OTA as I've been getting it up to now.

Weird that Amazon France gets devices from Poland while the site in the UK I used get their devices from France :eek: Bunch of crackers.
[One (M8) General] snoof:
Thx for your help,

I don't know from now if i will change it, or if i will try to go back to stock wwe...any link to return to stock wwe fw ?

Found this http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2735235 but not sure if applicable to my device (CID is not listed, but if i change it...)
[One (M8) General] exocetdj:
If you can s off ur device using firewater then theres no need to change it. u can basically convert it to almost any variant you like if u are s off :)

S off is GOD mode :cool:
[One (M8) General] Mikee4fun:
Guys is the ATT firmware newer than the .10 build?

---------- Post added at 06:48 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:45 PM ----------

I mean is like ATT is 158 vs 154, but was not sure if that number is just thrown out there by ATT.
[One (M8) General] kw1mx5:
remove nag

as downwiththebanksters asked earlier, does anyone know how to remove the nag to update ?

I plan to do it, but first I need to backup, revert to stock, s-off and a few other things, and I simply don't have time to do that at the moment.

Suggestions on stopping the increasingly annoying nag to update until I get time to do it would be much appreciated. Thanks :)
[One (M8) General] Darknites:
Press and hold the notification, then app info should pop up, press that and disable that app.
[One (M8) General] kw1mx5:
learn something new every day!

Thanks dude, it won't let me disable it completely, but I can at least force stop it, which should hopefully hold it at bay until next reboot.

Just hope I can get S-OFF now. Want to remove the 'flags' and retain rootability.
[One (M8) General] tomlikesandroidsofar:
I agree with you, HTC software is fine. It's the main reason why I bought the M8.

However, Android 5 on the M8 does have issues (aside from the question whether they're due to Google or HTC), and that's why HTC really annoys me not releasing Sense 7 earlier than in the fall. They should have released Android 5.1 for the M8 already, IMHO - even if it was just with Sense 6. That phone cost almost twice as much as a Moto X or X2.
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
We'll have Sense 7 by August, US Carriers will have it by Fall, But they are the minority and such.

People will finally be able to make a full Sense 7 base, M9 will get 5.1 and Sesne 7 faster but with that being said, Any issues with 5.1 and Sense 7, Will be ironed out for it, And it will only help benefit us more, Which is why it shouldn't matter at least for the Sense 7 one, I am not too sure about how 5.1 would with Sense 6 though, 5.1 Changed quite a bit of things actually, Background wise, and there's not even a Sense 7 framework ready en mass for it, So focusing on Sesne 6 one would be really counter efficient.

The framework for 5.1 and the M8 is ready, Porting a whole new version of sense is all that's left, And It takes way more work than you'd think, Every Sense 7 Rom as it is besides S.Rom uses the libs from the Sense 6 version, and makes a hybrid basically, They'll (HTC) have a lot of things to drop and re-code for the M8.

Don't let it upset you, At least we won't get dropped like Samsung Phones, I would go as far as saying that we aren't behind the Nexus, We have fully working 5.1 GPE.

It could also be that I am fine with the pace, Can't satisfy everyone, I have said my opinions and some facts, that's all, After all I have used a Samsung Galaxy One for 4 years, So I got used to a slower pace and I think this paceis fast.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Your arguments are correct but Battery life sucks now and that's also a fact. It didn't before so I am very unhappy, instead of an upgrade I got a downgrade, imo.
[One (M8) General] Callliope:
This reflects my opinion too
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Same... if we exclude the lockscreen notifications(and I can leave without those as it takes 0.1s to swipe down the notification bar + it works without unlocking the screen.), there is nothing doing good for our experience. The phone is the same speed, smoothness, SENSE version, etc... so we ended with a lot worse battery life and not all of us want to charge few times per day the build in battery to s*rew it 2-3 times faster in time. Not to talk about going out, summer, etc, when you can end up without a wall contact. Yeah, let's all of us buy external battery pack. Just sad and that's it and yes - some of us don't want to void their warranty as we know that in our country they nitpick how to f you up over it... so we cant root, flash custom rom or tweak it on low level to have atleast semidecent battery life. /rant over
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
I sadly don't know about the battery life much as I tried KitKat for a week and S-off'd went to Lolipop. XD

I think it's really different for everyone, But yes there's no doubt, if you're on stock the chances of it being worse than before are higher (Assuming you took OTA).

Other than that for my uses it's great but if you guys find it bad, HTC/Google should do something, It's true that since Lolipop people are reporting worse battery life.
[One (M8) General] tomlikesandroidsofar:
Maybe you're right, maybe it's more work than I can imagine to port Android 5.1 with Sense 7 from the M9 to the M8. Maybe it's really a completeley different development process.

Although, can't really think of one single thing, why it would be.

(I'm not trying to sound sarcastic, I really have difficulty to see the issue, why it would be. If I think of a Windows installation on a different computer, it's only some different drivers).
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
Well 5.1 (.1) Changed background stuff to improve everything, HTC will have to optimize it, There are tons of new animationsand Eye candy, What would they do with it?

On 5.0.1 they chose to remove a lot (A lot of animations are GONE) in order to optimize the Lolipop experience for the device, In fact some Lolipop elements have FPS drops, Quite literally, Even on this device at times.

They would have to re-merge those animations and such, Optimize some of them and re-apply Sense 7.0 over lolipop's stuff.

Even though 5.1 isn't a big change (like Say JB to KK), Sense 7 over it would have to be a bit different.

Replacing all those Libs and re-coding to fit the M8 perfectly should take some time as well, There's a reason why people use the M8 base afterall, Taking the M9 base fully will result in unexpected issues, We should trust HTC with this update, Even though they've done a lot of Sense 7.0 ports over Sense 6.0 I am not going to lie I have no clue how those would fit in 5.1, Sense 7.0 as I see it is a huge optimization network for our device.

Now it might be that I am making a big deal and it won't be so complicated, But you can never know, From what I've seen Sense is meant to be perfect with each update, I don't think they would wanna flop anything, Considering what a hit the M8 is.

Maybe I trust logic and HTC too much, But I am worried about merging Sense over 5.1, The good thing is, The M8 will get it flawless (Most likely), Considering the M9 is getting it first, I can even bet it's the intial base that's taking time to release and they just decided to delay the M8 version further.

Anyways this is my opinion, Some things might be incorrect, But it is a pain in the a** I bet to maintain so many versions of Sense and then fitting it into Google's failure of an update (Talking about Project Volta and the fail of optimization, not ART or the rest) sadly and two devices and different variants.

The fact is, When I used GPE I hated it, And without the full HTC Framework I could feel some issues, Why don't I have those with Sense 7.0, I wonder, I personally think Sense is just the best thing for Android Period, HTC really knew how to fix a lot of things, And if they wanna take thier time and fix more things it's fine with me.

Fun fact I bought the M8 for the Lolipop experience, It's awesome but I really think 5.1 is what Lolipop should've been, And I want that true Sesne 7.0 a lot.

Give AOSP 5.0.2 A try and then try 5.1.1, you might understand that a lot of background stuff were done, If HTC wanna fit thier Sense 7.0 over, all that goodie then great.

Also remember, They would have to be carefully not to break stuff as well, It isn't as simple as just porting libs and stuff, that's the biggest issue over anything, This could take some re-coding, which basically costs money and effort, Remember when the M9/Sense 7.0 Ports weren't close the final version everyone and thier mothers faced some FC or something, People have chosen the M8 Sense 6 Base for a reason,.
[One (M8) General] fasilpoochengal:
Plz help

Watch this video

It's more than 50 times reboots

What is going on my m8

https://youtu.be/B6PJtGHKqV0
[One (M8) General] MSIOCGenie:
From the looks of it you might be running modified software. Also you need to charge it.
[One (M8) General] fasilpoochengal:
I buy this mob in Dubai

It's software version Androids new Lollipop

Plz check attached files
[One (M8) General] fasilpoochengal:
I am Not modify this stuff

It's fresh HTC 's own Software

It's only one problem is reboot/on-off its randomly reboots

It's repeats more than 30/50 times

Finally finish the random reboots its work normally

Smooth and blazing fast

Battery is good

Pls help

It's Hardware/Software issues?

I dont have Warranty

Any suggestions

Plz help me...

Sry my bad english.
[One (M8) General] BOO5TED:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bt9zSfinwFA
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
no he is not thats how the dev editon is
[One (M8) General] kalel77:
I've HTC SDK API level unknown too in my nandbackup stock after OTA update to lollipop, but I don't have any problem for that
[One (M8) General] Tachi91:
HTC SDK API level unknown

That just means a simple text file is missing to tell the About screen what to put for it. It literally means nothing. You can make it say anything just like most of the things in the About section anyways.

Don't worry about it. Having that won't effect your ability in any way to work the phone or receive updates. Some M8s fresh out the box have that. Its fine.
[One (M8) General] fasilpoochengal:
Ok

Thanks for the information

But,The random reboots ?
[One (M8) General] boe323:
Why don't you re run the RUU located in the m8 thread, if its software related then it will fix it, if its the same after that, you need to replace it.
[One (M8) General] LenAsh:
Thread cleaned - discussions about the merits or otherwise of this phone versus other phones are way Off Topic and thus do not belong here.

Thanks
[One (M8) General] Leon:
Update HTC Sense home is available in play store.
[One (M8) General] kamikaze_al:
Yeah I got the sense home update yesterday,but since I installed it, my icons seem to mysteriously disappear... Not all of them but 2 or three, namely, BBC and Fing...
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Which processes can we stop to get better battery life on Lollipop? I'm not rooted
[One (M8) General] boe323:
turn of voice activation for googlenow, lower gps to battery saving, put brightness on auto, lower volumes on everything, turn of vibrate just leave it for phone calls, set animation to .5, turn off sync except for needed google apps, theres so much you can do to lower consumption, use your common sense.
[One (M8) General] Drunkula:
Updated HTC Lock Screen. Had to uninstall update. I don't want mealtime suggestions. Wish I could turn that off. :(
[One (M8) General] BOO5TED:
HTC lock screen has been disabled since I got my M8. Minimal Lock Pro only for me.
[One (M8) General] Callliope:
I didnt do the last update on HTC Lockscreen and its nice , i have my sunrise and sunset without any ads
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
Am I the only one who noticed (Obviously not but I mean it as a phrase) that the latest update to "HTC Sense Home", Suddenly has included in-app purchases?

Why the hell, Are they going to give us an option to pay for themes? (There's a "free" near every theme right now), Or is it something "sinister"? Any clues?
[One (M8) General] Zubeplanet:
I noticed that too. i wass liek whuuuut and after thinking about it i was like **** it not my problem
[One (M8) General] Leon:
Don't install the last Google play service apk. I cant download anything from play store now... Also I can't uninstall it.. :/
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
should try clearing the data from it
[One (M8) General] Leon:
I try but it's not working. Maybe I installed wrong version of service play?
[One (M8) General] navid0308:
if you wanna uninstall gp services

settings>security>device administrators>untick android device manager

then you get access to gp services like any other app

do your stuff

turn android device manager back on as device administrator else if your phone is lost, you wont find it via android device manager
[One (M8) General] thanito:
Since HTC included sunrise and sunset time in lockscreen, only one single time I saw same on my lockscreen. Instead,it always shows a home and next to it my city with the local time. Tried everything to change that but no luck.

Any tips on how can I show the sunset/sunrise?

Brgds,

T.
[One (M8) General] quny:
Time of sunrise and sunset is shown only shortly before the events. During the day it is not displayed. This happens at all, in my opinion.
[One (M8) General] thanito:
Thnx mate.

Weirdly enough, I tried to check it more than once at that time, but as mentioned before only once have I seen it.

I guess Sun never rises or sets in my home country ???
[One (M8) General] Firehawk989:
I don't see how people can be complaining about battery life on this phone. Maybe I'm just lucky, but running Lollipop with all the latest updates I get ~3 days of light-moderate use out of the phone before I have to charge it. Maybe it's cause mine is the Canadian version and has minimal carrier bloatware? I also installed all the software updates right away before installing my apps & junk, and then rooted and SOff'd with Sunshine. Everything is still stock though, haven't flashed any ROMs or anything yet.
[One (M8) General] Firehawk989:
I realize the above screenshot is probably very light use for some people; basically just checking text messages, email, facebook etc. throughout the day, maybe a youtube video or two. But I still get at least 2 days even with a decent amount of screen-on and WiFi time in there.
[One (M8) General] frixos80:
Do you have wifi off?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) General] thekalby:
Do you guys think the M8 GPE will get Android 5.2 (M) when it comes out in August?
[One (M8) General] Firehawk989:
Yes WiFi off for that screenshot. I can do another one with WiFi on though; it's shorter but not a lot.
[One (M8) General] tomlikesandroidsofar:
Without having any inisider information whatsoever: The M7 got the last update 2 years after the phone's release (maybe a bit less than that), it was Android 5.0. Android 5.0 itself was released in November.

Therefore I would say the chances are there, that we will get that update. But again: I have no information on that at all, just guessing.

EDIT: Just read, that you're talking about GPE. I was talking about non-GPE. Sorry.
[One (M8) General] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
M8 will definitely get gpe and sense based on 5.2 ! It would kill them if not
[One (M8) General] frixos80:
Well I have wifi switched off most of the day but if you look at my history wifi seems to be always on.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) General] Firehawk989:
Try disabling the "allow google to use WiFi location even when WiFi is turned off" option. Not sure if that's the exact wording but should be similar.
[One (M8) General] JellyKitkatLoli:
It's a visual glitch. Happens on every ROM thus far.
[One (M8) General] Seanie280672:
Goodbye Lollipop, Hello Milkshake (Android M)

Well looks like Lollipop had quite a short life, whilst a lot of use are still waiting for Lollipop 5.1 or 5.1.1 whatever comes next, nexus devices are about to get the new Android M (Milkshake) in Q3 2015, I'm sure we will eventually see this on our HTC's, but don't hold your breath.

http://www.androidpit.com/android-m-release-date-news-features-name
[One (M8) General] Silver.Shadow:
It may be due to any IM app like Viber, Skype or so. It has been reported, do check whether they are the culprit. :)
[One (M8) General] navid0308:
settings>wifi>3 dot menu>advanced>scanning always available <- UNTICK THIS
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
While I enjoy new features, what I really need is the battery life we used to have on KitKat. The rest is superfluous
[One (M8) General] frixos80:
Thanks but I tried that. It seems that it's an One m8 bug. I also had it on kitkat.

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) General] decmk:
Just received notification directly from HTC about update for Download App. Installed, restart needed.

download_manager_6.3.484838_747000010

International version 401 cid htc 032 running leatest Android stock rom.

Probably something is coming from HTC

☺
[One (M8) General] Justin2003:
Me to on Vodafone branded rom 161 CID VODAPE17.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
What is that notification? I don't understand. Thanks

Edit: is this it? What is this exactly?
[One (M8) General] BOO5TED:
Download manager updated on the international version of the M8
[One (M8) General] decmk:
Notification about update available for system app.

Update from HTC, not from Play Store.
[One (M8) General] ahmoda:
No... Nothing coming...

This is bug fix.. this is not the update manager
[One (M8) General] navid0308:
something is coming from HTC for sure

similarly, winter is coming....for 5 seasons and it still hasn't arrived...
[One (M8) General] boe323:
can someone post the update please, im not on stock so cant get update.
[One (M8) General] decmk:
Here you go.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1d5jf8x1sjyv5k3/download_manager_6.3.484838_747000010.apk?dl=0
[One (M8) General] boe323:
THANKS!!!
[One (M8) General] aselmani:
Bloody hell this keeps repeating and I have not found a solution for few months now. Today the message kept appearing for an hour and a half.

Does anyone have a fix for this or still not?
[One (M8) General] djlukas1983:
Try to install RUU. It should eliminate any issue.
[One (M8) General] aselmani:
Can you please give me more details information, as I am not that much into these technical issues. Appreciated!