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[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
Actually, no they can't. It's the manufacturer that has to bargain with Verizon to get it to happen. Samsung already had a huge partnership with Verizon, so they were able to get the (terrible) Galaxy Nexus on the Verizon network (even though it was like 3 1/2 months later than the unlocked GSM iterations). None of the other manufacturers would be able to afford such a thing, and Google is not going to jump in and make it happen. Verizon already basically hates Google because of their stance on net neutrality and the way they blow up Verizon and Comcast with the connection reports they generate all the time.

Verizon doesn't want unlocked devices on their network, but the only way for a device to really be a Nexus device is to make it easily unlockable. It's not a battle that Verizon will secede.
[Nexus 6  General] stealthj:
SONY SONY SONY!!!! now that Nokia is no longer in the game, (would have loved to seen a Nokia N9 styled droid, although i did have jelly bean on my N9 at one point)

sony Z3 Nexus! BOOM! snapdragon 810 64 bit/ cortex a53 cores. I'd pay 599 for that all day. AOSP, get that google now launcher outta here, but keep the sony camera. unlocked bootloader,

nothing more, nothing less.

BOOM!
[Nexus 6  General] SolarTrans:
I like your enthusiasm, but I just wouldn't buy it if it were Sony (or Samsung, for that matter). Those two have a bad habit of leaving the US market high and dry.

My #1 is HTC, as they could really use some help out there these days. A Nexus would boost the HTC name, and it would undoubtedly have great design and specs!

I respect others may not share my viewpoint, though ;)
[Nexus 6  General] nitinvaid:
I just want Samsung screen and sdcard slots
[Nexus 6  General] TheKnux:
+1 on the SD card slot.
[Nexus 6  General] immerblind:
i understand that. but i see it from another point. why would anybody wanne "help out" a company? i read such comments regarding htc some times. but i cannot understand it.(only understand it, if you work for htc :D)

you think any big company care about you? care about if you have enough food on the table every day?

we pay for products...and sometimes its quiet much, so we shouldnt "help out" any company :angel:

"other mothers have beautiful daughters too" :silly:

just saying.

id like see a phone not bigger than 5,2screen. the nexus 5 device size brings me to my acceptance limit.

what more?

- id like see the same white device design again, love it. (please nothing with glass^^)

- sd card would be nice, but we should be realistic with that wish.

- id like have an conspicuous LED for notifications.

- full hd display, thats enough

- power button+volume buttons+camera shutter button....same position, same order like on the xperia T (right side, bottom half)

inside?

i dont know. dont care about it, because i guess it will be enough :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 6  General] svengalis:
this is the tablet though and not the phone
[Nexus 6  General] bitdomo:
I know
[Nexus 6  General] Snow_fox:
So... I love my Nexus 5.

For me it's become less about specs and more about long term practicality.

I'm really hoping for more of a Nexus 5 (year) than a Nexus 6. I just got the Nexus 5 this year and quite franky I'm hoping the general spirit of the Nexus series continues on. I have a phone I paid $400 for that gives any other phone out there a run for it's money. When my car slid off the road into the water and my old LG was ruined, I was able to save $200 and not worry about upgrades or any other details. I saved $200 and didn't lose out o anything over any other full priced phone. I got a great screen, great battery life, powerful processor, and updates directly from google.

As much as when screen size started getting bigger some people complained, I feel like we are at a very reasonable screen size with the N5. I don't want to see it get bigger and I'm hoping we can keep the general contract free performance, size, power ratio going.
[Nexus 6  General] Cruiserdude:
Understood, you make some very valid points. But I'm not expecting Verizon to carry or market the thing, I just want them to allow it on their network. I understand that they don't like unlocked devices, yet they allow unlockable developer editions from the manufacturers. They don't carry or market them, but they still whitelist their esns so someone can purchase one and activate it with no issues.

I understand as well that they maintain a whitelist type authentication using the device esn, rather than an open scheme based around a SIM with certain esns blocked through a blacklist, the way GSM carriers do. This gives them complete control over the devices on their network, since there is no legal way to activate a device that they have not explicitly whitelisted.

Again, however, my question is why could they not just whitelist Nexus esns to give someone the option of using one, the way they do developer editions? It's the same as far as unlockable devices go. I understand that they require software updates to go through a strict verification/QA process, which would prevent them from allowing updates directly from Google with no interference. But if this was truly the only hold-up I would imagine that the OEM or Google would be willing to shoulder the comparatively minor expense of this process to have the opportunity to sell the phone to Verizon subscribers as well.

It just continues to baffle me why Verizon would specifically reject an extremely popular line of devices for technical reasons that don't hold up when you truly examine them, while every other carrier in the entire world is more than happy to.
[Nexus 6  General] vnvman:
Same here, the only real complaint about the N5 would be (coming from a 920 owner, keep this in mind) would be sunlight readability. Also, on the contrary, I wouldn't mind a 6 incher, I think I can handle it, no homo.
[Nexus 6  General] Snow_fox:
Meh. I'm going to have less and less pocket space in the future regardless of phone size. I'm going to hope they stick with 5 inches and let the size inch be the average for something else ;)
[Nexus 6  General] nils.pap:
Unfortunately that's really unlikely to happen. :(

I do hope we get 32/64GB versions and much better battery though!
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
This will only happen if they bring back the foldout keyboard, capacitive touchscreen, etc. :p: ;) :eek:

ot, I stayed in Tallmadge oh few years ago in Summer only... orig fr Akron.
[Nexus 6  General] iLuvMudkips:
The size IS the number for any Nexus device with a number. Nexus 4 is 4". Nexus 5 is 5" (yes 4.95 technically but who cares), N7 is a 7 inch tablet, and Nexus 10 is a 10" tablet.

Nexus 7 2013 kept the name because its still 7". lol

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I think that the next Nexus will be a phablet. Here are what I consider to be the most likely specs:

5.5" 1080p Display

Snapdragon 801

3GB RAM

Adreno 330 or latest GPU

13mp front facing camera

5mp rear facing camera

16GB of storage (again :/)

3000+ mAh battery

Probably no expandable storage

Will ship with Android L/5.0

Edit. I'd love to see it called the Nexus 5X or something.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
I think it's safe to say that the OEMS name the nexus, so long as it has Nexus in it. I think based off the way LG name their phones they name them after the generation. For instance G1, G2 and now G3. So if HTC were to design the next Nexus it would be "Nexus one(2014/2015)" the fact that the first Nexus was also named "One" shouldn't deter them from using that name considering the Nexus 7(which no one is arguing that Nexus tablets are named after size as do most OEMS name after outside of galaxy tabs) was named twice. If it is Sony would expect it to have Experia or Motorola would expect it to have "moto" or possibly "X"
[Nexus 6  General] Lucke:
lost any and all credibility there. 4.7" /= 4"

Gen 1 = Nexus One

Gen 2 = Nexus S

Gen 3 = Galaxy Nexus

Gen 4 = Nexus 4

Gen 5 = Nexus 5

Gen 6 = (who knows and who really cares???)
[Nexus 6  General] p-d:
I would like 120fps or higher and a good sound system
[Nexus 6  General] nils.pap:
I think they might go with 5,5" screen and name it 6 because 5,5 rounds to 6. :p
[Nexus 6  General] :
Nexus 6 name is patented...forget by who....blade runner author? Someone anyway.

Google may use it, IF they shell out some cash, and if the name owner accepts. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] Wiley_11:
http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052748703436504574640623301172810
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Article is dated January 5, 2010 :rolleyes::confused:
[Nexus 6  General] kensim781:
If the Nexus 6 is debuting this Q3/Q4, then it will most likely be powered by the Snapdragon 801/805, if it's debuting Q1 2015, it will be featuring the Snapdragon 808/810 64bit SoC (Finger cross !!) I was hoping for the 808/810 as it is 64bit and the Adreno 430 GPU is way more powerful, with 64bit bandwidth DDR4, this beast is a class leading flagship of it's own !
[Nexus 6  General] Wiley_11:
That was a reply to KJ who thought the name *Nexus 6* was patented. :laugh:
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
LOL LOL! Good one :D
[Nexus 6  General] :
I don't get it.
[Nexus 6  General] ratflinger:
Gee wonder the **** family is all butt-hurt over Cisco Nexus switches? :confused:
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I suggest the next Nexus phone should be seen to complement the wearables and the tablets and not be yet-another-phablet. Android L needs verifying it works across a broad size of screen, physical and pixels, so I suggest the big phone concept should not occur.

My wishlist:

- the physical size of the Nexus 4, a bit smaller than Nexus 5, certainly not bigger.

- focus on battery life. We should be aiming for a week of use, not be happy with a day's use, I know a week is impossible but we've settled way too low. 3000mah battery size and focus on power-efficiency throughout. You're looking at your watch for notifications and looking at your Nexus 7/8/9/10 for any serious browsing/media.

- robust
[Nexus 6  General] MooNWalker:
I've been running Nexus 4 with Sailfish OS instead of Android and I have been getting almost a week of use out of it.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I moved upto Nexus 5 2 months ago after 17 months with Nexus 4. The battery life is worse, but .... please define "use" you mean in your pocket unused.... always on Wifi.... screen dimmed indoors...?

Light use I'd get say 2 days in my N4, that same use on N5 I get about 1 day.

I carry a USB battery more times now.
[Nexus 6  General] diSke:
It's funny how people want a billion MP camera on the nexus 6.

8MP is more than enough...

It's all about the image sensor. If you've got a 50MP camera with a budget image sensor, your pictures are going to look sh*t.

On the other hand, if you've got an 8MP camera with a good image sensor, you'll get incredible pictures.

Best nexus 6 imo:

- 8MP camera with a very good image sensor

- 5" screen MAX

- Android L (offcourse)

- Minimalistic phone design

- Bigger and better battery

- 2 to 3 GB RAM

- A little upgrade from nexus 5 hardware (CPU and GPU)
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
5 inches is barely acceptable
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
It will be greater than a 5" screen...odds on favorite would be 5.5" with less bezel!
[Nexus 6  General] mahrukhsa:
i wanna buy nexus 5 in august.. so after the release of nexus 6 ?? the nexus 5 price will drop.. right ?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
FFS then use your Nexus 7 its 7".

Why make what you always carry so big? You can make what you always carry just big enough to be useful and when you want bigger carry bigger. That's the point of a tablet. You can BT tether easily (but about 1.5Mbit max which is fine for most stuff).

You have your Moto 360 on your wrist so your phone stays in your pocket for just checking messages, if you want to watch big screen 7"+ you take out your tablet, you only actually take out your phone if you are going minimalist single device type, .... and that's my point, Android L and the whole Android concept is one OS across many devices from tiny to large and Android L is trying to give a good experience across them all, so why bother making a big screen phone?

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Well if you look at 2013's history:

Nexus 4 price drop Aug 27, 2013

Nexus 5 announced Oct 31, 2013

So assuming the same schedule you'll have to wait til end of August.

I have no knowledge and just speculating (or if I were IB times I'd make it up and claim "rumors") that Nexus 6 is going to be scheduled coincident with formal release of Android L which is brand new beta-test now which implies Nexus 6 can't be release soon, but a November release is do-able. I'd then just refer to above and say Nexus 5 price drop end-August. Pure guessing, easily wrong.
[Nexus 6  General] mahrukhsa:
hmm ok.. thanks for ur reply.. :)
[Nexus 6  General] 350Rocket:
I'm happy with the 5" screen and don't even have a tablet. Usually I use just the phone and never even use my laptop.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Depends on usage pattern obviously :)
[Nexus 6  General] babi_perang:
a little curve / dimple on the back cover would be nice anw :)

and not to mention that battery should be replaceable!
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Replaceable battery comes with two downsides. The battery becomes bigger meaning bigger handset or smaller battery capacity, and the case has to be removable meaning it tends to crack a bit more. Not saying NO just it has downsides to consider.

Nexus phones need to get smaller not bigger, and non-removable battery is likely core to that.
[Nexus 6  General] namartlu:
Have been using magnetic wireless charging car mount, so can't live without Qi!
[Nexus 6  General] btuck812:
Definitely. I think 3GB RAM will be necessary if it is to be good for two years now, a Snapdragon 805 or one of their new 64bit processors, a screen size between 5 and 5.2" with G3 style bezels this time, 1080p resolution is plenty, I hope they don't use gimmicky curved glass displays that will only increase costs, and I hope they have a 16GB storage option, more for me is overkill.

Oh, and this is only hoping, but please please please, put the headphone jack on the bottom!
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Agreed.

Possibly. For a November shipping its too early for 808/810.

64bit processor would be a good idea for Nexus range as it seeds 64bit handsets to then pull 64bit apps. Google helping clear the way to then break 4GB in 2016 type time.

Dumb for Google to do this in Nexusline as then the phone is even bigger, and it competes with tablets which can do 7"-9" (I think 8" is about-right personally). Look holistically, you see your notification on your Android Wear and then reach for your tablet or phone, rather than hear your phone and reach for your phone. The wearable diminishes the importance of the phone relative to tablet. So your phone is your network hub, it needs good battery life and small.

I think going back down to Nexus 4 handset size with small bezels to get near to 5" is the right holistic Wearables-Phone-Tablet family concept, the phone's primary role is the hub not the screen to stare at.

Agreed.

Agreed, More pixels targeted for bigger screens on tablets. Let's make the phone as cheap and power-efficient as possible.

Agreed. Cheap is good.

Agreed, as that plays to the pocket concept you reach down and grab and then hold, so it is in pocket upside down so headphones on bottom, and then you look at it with the headphones on bottom so wire not crossing screen. Its so logically obviously best fire anyone from Google who disagrees!
[Nexus 6  General] btuck812:
I have a nexus 4 right now, and I do like the size of the screen, but I think it is unfeasible to expect them to bring the screen size down again. Above 5.2" is definitely too big, but as wearables are not mainstream yet I think 5" is the best size, especially as they are the only devices most people have with mobile Internet right now, and most people don't have to money to get a smartwatch, smartphone, 4g tablet and a PC.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
When comparing N4 vs N5, I think you can stand a slightly smaller screen than N5 but with the small bezel concept like LG G3.

We agree a phone no larger. Any larger and I'll skip it and jump from Nexus. I carry a N7 for when I "need" a larger screen.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
Or you can have a slimmed down 6.5-7 inch phone with minimal bezzle to be used as both, and not worry about having a small tablet that would be ideal. I am not at all interested in a smart watch I hate watches and don't intend on using one ever! Maybe in the future they might offer something intuitive I might entertain the idea.

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My honest opinion is screen size will be 5.3. Once upon a time anything bigger than 4 inches was a big screen. Big phones are no doubt cannibalizing small tablets and I think they will take over. 3 years ago the OG note was considered a phablet now we have the G3 which is 5.5 and no one bats an eye. Having the Note 2 with relatively large bezzle I can say it was a comfortable size and yes I could easily use it one handed.

I bet that most complaining about screen being to large will still buy a 5.5 inch screen Nexus when it does come out(notice I said when not if) just like when people said that 5 was too big. I predict evolution of phones will reach a comfortable 6-7 maybe even bigger if technology allows for it to still be portable like if it could fold in half to be a full fledge tablet.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Really? You predict that phablet sizes will be the norm. I believe that it will go the other way around. Despite what you may be live the majority of people still run normal sized phones. While a small minority run phablet sized phones. I personally will keep my nexus 5 and not trade up if the next nexus is any bigger that the n5. What's the point of a tablet then. Not picking on you just what you mentioned regarding the "comfortable 6-7". Even with reduced bezel its still would be huge. I put my phone in my pocket. I don't want to have a carrying case for it.
[Nexus 6  General] riginal:
Personally the only thing I wish for is a bigger battery

I love everything about N5 except for the battery

and about screen size & bezels, I really hope they don't go with less bezels, for me a 5.2 " with same bezels as N5 would be great

Can't really see why LG & apparently many people are obsessed with (no)bezels, less & less bezels and the screen will become prone to accidental touchs & it'll also affects device's durability
[Nexus 6  General] :
They can make phones as big as they want....all they'll do is drive Mr and Mrs average consumer right into the arms of Apple.

Every single person I know that's seen my N5 has commented on the size and has said they'd never want anything that big...or certainly bigger.

All the top dogs in the android world better be making a mini version for these people...and mini's that have the exact same specs other than the size. Tho, the smarter idea would be make the normal phones smaller....and put out Maxx versions. The word "mini" could hurt business too.

I'm a guy with pretty big hands too.....and I won't probably get a phone any bigger than my N5. 5.2" maybe. That's it.

And I know the majority of consumers would agree. They want a phone they can carry around without dragging it around with two hands. ;)

I hope the makers make these minis.... Or halt the size increases.....or Android could become the next Blackberry.... And Apple will gobble up everyone.

Just my 3 cents. :)
[Nexus 6  General] btuck812:
Nexuses are made for experimenting. I'd like to see them trying out the most recent battery forms, like graphene batteries.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Nods violently. When you got one OS across small to large, why do you just push larger and larger....you got it covered without the phone being pulled larger.

You got Chromecast for $35 to show on as-big-as-your-wallet TV if required, down to Android Wear. The phone fits in that spectrum.

To me the biggest technology gap is Bluetooth tethering, no matter what is the theoretical quoted speed, in real world I get about 1.5Mbits which is now the bottleneck once I moved up to N5 and LTE from my N4 H+. BT tethering is fine for the tablet to keep up with email and non-bandwidth surfing but you can't really stream media much. Wifi tethering is more power-hungry. If I were thinking ecosystem (wearable-phone-tablet) I'd be focusing on BT Tethering speeds.

FYI ride on a bike about 27 hours/week and the N5 just barely fits in the pouch on handlebars and when raining it's in depth of a bag and I got BT headphones exposed to the elements. Phone no bigger!

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Well it also has to be

cheap

.....
[Nexus 6  General] seangeezy12:
What about android silver won't this be the next "nexus" device?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
From the leaks... Android Silver complements Nexus, does not replace Nexus.

Google has said little.
[Nexus 6  General] seangeezy12:
Ahhhhhh but I really believe it will replace. No word or ANY news for that matter on a N6 at all and launch should be about 3 months if you look at the n4 and n5
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
So?

A launch in end-October (rough guess) is 3 months away. 3 months is a rough supply chain so only about now would G be firming up specs based on what is confidently available in volume to make in October onwards. Why would anything be said now? Once its firmed up.... and prototypes made.... would rumors really start happening of handset. FCC approvals would appear nearer the time.

its simply too early to have fact-based information.

All we can do is air wish-lists. Anyone close to G should be airing views, noting balancing cost with physical size with specifications and trade-offs to make a robust product which will get minimum RMAs.
[Nexus 6  General] seangeezy12:
Makes sense. Do you think LG will make the next nexus and if not who would you like to see make one?

sent from my beastly NEXUS 5 ON ANDROID L!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
LG made the last 2, and inertia is the 2nd most powerful force in the universe.

Probably LG hence. Oh, and they said recently they were not making a phone for google but they'd said the same thing about the same time last year and made the N5 anyway.

I got one Samsung device (Nexus 10) which sucks relative to a good N4, N5, N7 2012 2013 LG experience so I'm cool with it.

HTC is rumored but none know. HTC rumored more for the tablet to be announced shortly.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
I think many of your points are valid however I do disagree with a few. From having the Note 2 I learned how to comfortably use it one handed. From using the phone I learned how to grip it differently. Now using a phone less than 5 inches I almost have to use 2 hands because the way I grip my phone has changed.

I am not going to lie most of my use of phone is for fun outside of texting and calling which I use a lot for business (I am on call) however if I were to respond to a lot of emails I would either opt for a phablet or qwerty phone. Since qwerty is almost dead obviously would go with phablet and many do.

We all have a preference in regards to what's comfortable and hey not everyone cares about texting one handed others it's a must. I think if the rumors of Apple building a 4.7 and a 5.5 iPhone we will only see phones increase in size. Technology may even allow phone to be expandable. Samsung is already testing out technology where a phone could fold decreasing its size by half.

I agree with the point about battery. The Nexus 5 battery sucks. Coming from the note 2 I was really disappointed. It ultimately led to me getting the one m8. As much as I loved Note 2 Samsung deplorable updates made me seek out Nexus/GPE phones. This was hard decision because of how much I loved phablet size phones. But what ever its give and take. Ultimately google support is what mattered to me :)