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[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Zarboz:
Anyone take a kidney in trade for their m8 I have a extra one I'm not using
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
Who isn't in financial hardship these days....
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] buddahj:
+1
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] teknode:
I hope the firewater s-off method works out. Between this and the fast response time I just might have to pick up an m8.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Still no M8 yet Z???
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] scotty1223:
good to see you here,too bro :cool:

its actually even a little worse than that. i did not pledge,but did donate,throwing off the recieved total. im sure im not the only one in that scenario.

folks definately should donate. devices are not given out to devs by htc so they can hack them ;) a lot of work goes into this kind of stuff.alot of personal time that could be spent with family or other activities. these guys make sacrifices to bring you tools and roms.

if you said youd donate do it. if youre not sure,keep quiet. if you kept quiet and end up with a lil extra at the end of the week,donate it. :)

im not a dev,but i do put alot of time into helping forums by answering questions and trying to write guides that anyone can follow. every now and then i get a donation,and i always appreciate it,no matter if its $5 or even less. dont be embarrased if thats all you got this week,its kinda like xmas- its the thot that counts :D
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BFirebird101:
Innnnn

Sent from my HTC One M8!

U WOT M8?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] shojus:
Exactly my point...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] airprohvac1@gmail.com:
I have the M8 but miss my S4, do you think the bootloader will ever be unlocked on the S5?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] droidrev71:
No I doubt it very much. If anything it may get safestrap.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
It is true s-off, where did you get this idea.

Actually more than one "type" of s-off exists, with different levels of impact
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] scotty1223:
With older devices,you can have eng s off,with wich hboot simply ignores the radio secureflag.

But for this device the only option is radio s off since eng and mfg hboots are not signed with a release key.

Prolly a better way to say it woikd have been "there is no partial s off of this phone.radio s off is radio s off"

Unless there was something else you were refering to.

What variant of m8 did you end up with?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] coldconfession13:
As long as it can unlock the boot loader I'll be happy
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] beaups:
There is no radio s-off anymore either ;)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
This isn't even radio s-off (don't think radio has anything to do with it on modern devices), and hboot (eng) s-off is still possible.

I got att GSM variant
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] scotty1223:
awsome! glad you found one.

so do you mean eng s off is possible while the device itself is still s on?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
Only thing standing between it and you is the right signature. Certainly still possible.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] androidoholic:
[MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] when's it gonna be ready. Just kidding. But seriously will we be able to flash things like recovery or radio through the oemRUU like we were able to with the one x without unlocking the bootloader? I don't see why we wouldn't just wanted to confirm.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
If s-off that will work.....and will be a pretty important detail for boot loader locked vzw users who ruu and then want to reroot or flash custom recoveries.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NoFanboy:
Let the devs test in peace!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] GetRipped:
Honestly it takes a while to get everything nice and neat and packaged up for everyone. Then come the instruction lists and YouTube videos etc etc. It's on its way :) the devs got our backs
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
Obviously they "have our backs". I wish everyone would stop asking for ETAs with what they think is a cryptic or indirect method... they are clearly working on it, jcase and beaups have dropped multiple hints, but who knows if its stable, what it is capable of, and if it works on many devices? They are testing it, be patient. At least we know it is possible so we can rest easy that eventually, the M8 will be s-off.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
I am just very happy and grateful to those working on this for us.

They don't need to give us any details - but they do.

Let's just be thankful we have them working on it.. Otherwise S-OFF would never come.. unless we do java cards..
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] hackercity:
It is released!!!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] krazie1:
The Kraken has been unleashed! https://twitter.com/firewaterdevs/status/452934672063156224
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tomsgt:
http://firewater-soff.com/instructions/
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] S121Guy:
Took like 2 mins to do it too. Fastest S-OFF method i've ever used lol
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
Yup, once I actually granted ADB root access through Supersu it only took one bottle and about 30 seconds.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BFirebird101:
Wait whattttt? When they said they had to test it, I expected it to take days or weeks. Not this fast! Holy crap! So we follow the WeakSauce method right? Then what? Do we push CWMR then flash supersu?

I'm also assuming the device will be wiped?

Sent from my HTC One M8!

U WOT M8?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] androidoholic:
No flashing until we have an unsecure kernel and recovery.......coming soon.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
I apologize for the "noobishness" of the following question, however this is my first HTC phone. Where can I find the HTC drivers listed on Firewater's instructions page? I can only seem to find the HTC Sync Manager...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] airprohvac1@gmail.com:
Who do we donate to? because I know there's more than one person involved.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
Firewaterdevs@gmail.com
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dsEVOlve:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=51697983
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] coldconfession13:
so do we still need to unlock bootloader? and trying to figure out how to do it
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BFirebird101:
Does this wipe the device?

Sent from my HTC One M8!

U WOT M8?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dneiding:
No
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] who MIKE D:
Nope, everything stays untouched
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
Just follow the directions, use weaksauce to temproot (make sure to install superSU)

then, proceed with the adb commands.

Thank you to everyone involved!!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] GetRipped:
The drivers are all included within the sync manager. Install sync manager and android sdk and you'll be good to go
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BFirebird101:
It says to uninstall sync manager

Sent from my HTC One M8!

U WOT M8?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] GetRipped:
It does include the drivers. I'm sure you can find the drivers separately but just use sync manager. And you don't have to uninstall. Just make sure sync manager is closed during the process. Right click and close in the taskbar or use task manager.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
Yep, the instructions say to uninstall the HTC Sync Manager. So do I just need Android SDK, or is there something else I am missing?

Are you sure? The instructions specifically state not to do the above?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] TheBiles:
Is the firewater download for us supposed to be called "firewaterdownload3.bin"?

--

Sent from my HTC One M8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] GetRipped:
I mean you can do what you will. Sync manager won't cause problems closed and I'm not sure how driver installation goes without using sync manager. But if you can find your phone using adv devices then you're fine without. I just s offed 2 phones with sync manager installed for drivers so I'm sure it's alright.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] cmo220:
You can use Sync Manager to install the drivers. After the drivers are installed uninstall Sync Manager. The drivers won't be deleted.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Frankie1588:
How do we flash permanent root now that we have S-OFF?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
Alright thank you guys!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
mine was just firewater

---------- Post added at 08:15 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:14 PM ----------

S-OFF is perm root..
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] rossida:
Has anyone posted a video on how to do this? text instructions are a little hard to follow when your not sure what youre doing.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
Same here, just "firewater". Perhaps re-download it?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] coldconfession13:
says unlocked and flashed twrp but no go. Did I miss something
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
I am not 100% twrp works just yet..
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] lucky_strike33:
Check android development. Cwm is available to flash.

My All New One
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
I think [MENTION=4246643]Tomsgt[/MENTION] is making one, but I can't seem to find any others at the moment. I plan on waiting until one is released before I continue, don't want to mess up my phone just yet...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sshams95:
I am getting su: not found
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sidewind75:
Make sure you give ADB SU permisions on your phone
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BFirebird101:
I got the same thing. I just had to wait a few minutes. Make sure your screen is turned on when you type "su", and then the prompt should come up immediately.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tomsgt:
Yes I am editing the video now
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] MultiDev:
Absolutely False. S-off is not the same as perm root. You can be S-off without any root (aka completely stock) and you can even be root without S-Off.

Now, you can achieve perm root with S-Off.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] rossida:
Thanks so much. Im sure a lot of people will appreciate it!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] krazie1:
This firewater s-off release is for all m8 variants?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
Sorry, you're right. What I meant was that the phone is set to a Security Off state so that it is completely unlocked.

I apologize.

But you can download the SuperSU.apk from the market at anytime to "root".

I never said though that you can't be S-OFF without root nor that you can be root without S-OFF..

Just think of any of manufacturer, such as Samsung, they do not have "S-OFF" but yet they are fully bootloader unlocked and rooted.

I mis-spoke, thank you for not jumping on me and responding politely. :good:
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] BFirebird101:
Which M8 do you possess?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
I am not 100% sure, but I *think* so

However, I believe since other variants have access to htcdev unlock they need to first do that method then firewater.

luckily for us we have temp-root and don't need to void warranty.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sshams95:
Thank you!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
I especially like step 4...

Emphasis added for magnification of irony. LOL.

But damn, am I glad to see all this so soon! Thanks beaups and jcase!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
This method doesn't wipe anything, correct?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Abe21599:
someone already asked this question and another user posted that it does not - save you the time of searching :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
Everybody gets ONE haha..... Thanks for that.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tomsgt:
Here is a video on the S off process if anyone is interested http://youtu.be/NV-kPOYKudc
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] madhacker7:
Has anyone heard of this method working for the new E8? I'm stuck without root on my vzw S5 and am ready to bail if it works on the E8. Thanks folks for all your hard work on these devices.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
I heard someone dropped an root program for the s5. I seen it reported on android police. Claims the program an root any phone besides HTC due to some kind of write protection HTC uses. But HTC is better then Samsung anyways lol.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] exAusTiN:
Does this method still work for the m8? I'm about to buy one.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] weisguy:
I bought "his and hers" recently. On one I could use this method. On my wife's I had to use Sunshine (which is not free but worked perfectly).

Sunshine: http://theroot.ninja/
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] exAusTiN:
Can confirm this still works for me too!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Roefastford:
Check out the 2 other posts many get firewater to work using superuser with weaksauce app instead of supersu. Check out the two other posts below first is the main one.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2787587

http://xdaforums.com/verizon-htc-one-m8/help/firewater-s-off-fail-bottle-chugging-t2821691
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] gads1:
Check the weaksauce and sunshine threads.

Weaksauce method will only work on M8_verizon __BEFORE__ you update to v4.4.3.

If you are alraedy running v4.4.3, you are (currently) hosed for Weaksauce method and must ante up $25 (sunshine).

I have M8_verizon with v4.3.3 and Sunshine worked great for S-off. now running GPE w/o issue.

reference:

HERE

and

HERE
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] darkshad0w:
Hello sorry for my english is very bad .

I'm from Algeria north africa , i bought an verizon htc one m8 i can't unlock the bootloader i tried weaksauce2 ( root failure ) with htc dev i have an error

Error Code: 172.

Error Reason: CID Not Allowed (MID not exist in Model Rule).

now i tried " kingoRoot " and i have get the phone root when in chek with root checker ( Congratualtion! root access is properly installed on this device )

But the bootloader always locked et now i have message above " locked " is : ( tempred ) .

Firwater doesn't work and i don't know how to unlock it :( can somebaody help me with that please .
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] haitu:
Your best bet to get soff is going to theroot.ninja and getting the sunshine app. It will run test to see if your phone is unlockable. If it is then you can pay $25 and get it soff. There isn't an alternative right now.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] SigLover21:
Yup, it the version you're running is 5.01 and your not rooted yet, well the only way I know of is a Java card. I just bought one. They're kinda spendy.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] darkshad0w:
Ok thank you for your answer, i tried sunshine my phone is unlockable i just dont have paypal . Im gonna figure out how to do. Again thx for your help
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] biohazard64:
Can't S-off and unlock bootloader

Hi, i have a HTC one M8 Verizon with sim unlock but can't get weaksauce to work (android 4.4.2) factory with no updates. when i use the weaksauce-firewater method i get this:

J:\�*\�*Archivos\adb fastboot>adb devices

List of devices attached

FA444SF07180 device

J:\�*\�*Archivos\adb fastboot>adb reboot

J:\�*\�*Archivos\adb fastboot>adb devices

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

List of devices attached

FA444SF07180 device

J:\�*\�*Archivos\adb fastboot>adb wait-for-device push firewater /data/local/tmp

4187 KB/s (4519496 bytes in 1.054s)

J:\�*\�*Archivos\adb fastboot>adb shell

shell@htc_m8wl:/ $ chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/firewater

chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/firewater

shell@htc_m8wl:/ $ su

su

root@htc_m8wl:/ # /data/local/tmp/firewater

/data/local/tmp/firewater

root@htc_m8wl:/ #

when it must execute firewater just get me back to #, i think firewater don't run, anyone with this same problem? tried everything
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] robocuff:
Firewater doesn't work anymore. Regardless of the version of Android you have. It was dependent on a server somewhere and that server has been taken down.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] biohazard64:
any method for unlock bootloader and s-off besides sunshine? i have tried htc dev token (fastboot) method and didn't work either
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
No. (Verizon blocks our devices from HTC Dev).

I think we should appreciate Sunshine a bit more (not directed at you at all, just saying in general).

$25 is very fair considering their time spent, and the number of devices destroyed to accomplish what no one else can/will.

Save up the $25 and enjoy your Security Unlocked device.

If you can't afford $25, then there is absolutely zero way for you to get S-OFF (that I am aware of, if it is just root or temp root you seek, their may other options that I don't know of), and there will not be one in the future... Not being a jerk here, just stating the facts. Unless of coarse someone else finds a way to do what they can, and decide to not charge, which is pretty darn slim.

Hope you get it rooted soon, and can enjoy the freedom.

:cool:
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
Firewater has been disabled for well over a year at this point. It will never work for you. A simple search would have revealed this.

Sunshine app is the only way to s-off your phone using software at this point.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] biohazard64:
i'm from venezuela, there's a way to pay for sunshine? paypal for example?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
Yes. Sunshine will do compatibility checks and then prompt you to checkout with PayPal as long as it passes checks.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Drunkula:
Just an FYI but I tried to use PayPal but couldn't because my account is setup to use their 2 factor token. There may be a work around I'm not aware of. I just used a credit card instead.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] biohazard64:
but i have a problem, i live in Venezuela so access to USD is very hard but i can manage to find money for paypal acount, not verified.. so my only option is sunshine? no free bootloader and S-off option for me? :(
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
Not just you...

No free S-OFF for ANYONE.

We all pay the $25. And it's more than fair.

I hope you can get it going if you have the funds.

The devs for Sunshine are great, and you can find then on their irc channel for live chatting, I'm sure they will do their best to figure out a way to accept payment.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] GohanBurner:
I purchased another Verizon variant M8. Coming back from the Nexus 6P solely because of the placement of the headphone jack. Most annoying thing in the world to have the jack on top and the power on bottom, that's just me though...

Anyway, I've been searching for awhile now...just need a refresher. I don't mind paying $25 (I did before to unlock a different M8). However, I can't remember what steps I took. Do I just download the Sunshine APK on a stock M8 and I'm done or do I have to do something else before I do that? Can't remember...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
yep, just visit their site on your phone - http://theroot.ninja/

download the app, it will run all the checks and if your phone is compatible it will then ask for you to pay $25.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andybones:
Hello? No....
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] xt926:
Good to see this thread is still breathing because I just bought an m8 for Verizon and it will be here Wednesday! Does anyone know if it matters what software version you're on? I think I read this just got 6.0 or is getting 6.0. I'm not taking any ota updates b4 trying just in case but I'm worried if this phone is shipped with a patch.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] beaups:
All m8 VZW versions are supported by sunshine.

--beaups
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] chenaou:
Hello xda again :) I was doing some research to root and flash roms on my htc m8 from verizon and I found this amount of info about the bootloader and x-off... I dont want to be mean but the android development was always a contribution based on donations and I've found really really annoying that now I need to pay $25 to fully unlock my phone, I know Its verizon policies but cmon !! the only answer people get here is "go pay sunshine" do you get commisions for refering or what???

I dont want to be mean and sorry If I am, but im a little bit frustrated with the answers and not finding like a tutorial for new people starting into the htc m8.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
Go away until you have something to contribute. Else you display yourself as a whiny leach.

For the record- I have enough contributions here to state this for you.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] chenaou:
Thanks dude, this is the kind of answer I was looking for.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
Bonus then. Glad to help.

You will not find any sympathy around here anymore when it comes to gaining s-off. No one else has done it. No one has come close. The last place anyone should put their effort is in *****ing about it using the "community" bs.

Have you contributed anything towards it?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] chenaou:
Ok lets move foward into something more friendly, can I get only root on my verizon htc ?? info is pointing to yes and no at the same time :p
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
Not without s-off on Verizon. Bootloader unlocking isn't permitted.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] chenaou:
Sorry If I need to double check (and btw thanks for answering so fast) but to gain root acces, just the SU I need also de s-off and the bootloader??? what about oneclicroot?? it's not granting root acces?? I just nee to get the SU to fix my battery... :(
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
Sunshine has a built in temp root process that allows it to work while gaining s-off and unlocking bootloader. After this process you simply flash twrp and the latest supersu zip to root your stock. Going s-off also removes system write protection which will allow your changes to persist a reboot.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] adria1489:
No s-off? Can't unlock bootloader... Can't download software... Can't say or ask anything with out being capsized for being noob... Kmn
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] HypostaticOnion:
The problem isn't being a noob, but not reading the things that are very clearly posted.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dottat:
More specifically, the issue is when folks come here to ***** about the only available root method that anyone has had time/hardware to invest charging $25/phone. No one else has done it. It is what it is. Gives no person the right to come here and ***** or state that somehow since it's all community work it should be free. That's the definition of entitlement. How dare someone show up here as a regular user and demand all the goods?

Did you happen to notice after that exchange real questions were asked and answered? Nope. Instead you chose to ***** as well.

So what's your point? What do you need help with? Why are you here?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sonic2756:
Soon.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] eighty1:
Thanks Sonic.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] CB620:
First to release and last to get s off and root. Every other model m8 has s off and root confirmed already and can flash any rom.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
Verizon in all its glory... Hurray!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fernando sor:
Im sure it was a condition to launch the phone on the day it was announced and to have it in stores. Thats the problem with a company that is struggling financially. They don't have a lot of pull like Samsung or Apple.

It will get unlocked.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NotATreoFan:
I have to agree with [MENTION=4155354]andrewp3481[/MENTION].

Root would be great so I can tether to my Nexus 7 on the train, and the ability to strip out bloatware from /system would also be cool. But otherwise I can wait. The issue with writing to the SD card can be circumvented with a PC, and the camera can save there without issue.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] JWhetstone02:
I'm pretty sure s-off will not take as long as the m7 did. im going by that the m8 has an sdcard slot. i think it will be a lot easier to achieve s-ff being that there is an sdcard slot vs just internal storage.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sfreemanoh:
Can someone clarify for me what exactly getting S-OFF would give us? I only have experience with Motorola devices (though it's been a couple years), and my GNex and Nexus 7's, so HTC terms are new to me. I understand that with S-OFF we would be able to flash ROM's, would we also be able to flash kernel's, and install custom recoveries? Or is flashing kernel's prevented by the bootloader being locked?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] JWhetstone02:
with s-on, you can only upgrade your device as far as hboot, radio, firmware, kernel

with s-off, that takes all security flags away. you can then upgrade downgrade or use any combination of hboot, radios, kernels or firmware

it gives you the ability to write to the /system partition as well

it makes flashing roms much much easier as they can done with s-on
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] JJflipped:
Well, the issue is that the bootloader cannot be unlocked through htcdev.

If we have S-Off, then we can get SuperCID, allowing us to unlock, custom recovery, and flash roms/root.