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[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I got two of these, I keep one with on my bike and one in my general bag so unless I'm popping out for a short trip with literally just my phone, I've got a full recharge with me. 2A output so it charges fast and I plug in when I'm using if battery is getting low like 20% it raises it up fast. Cheap and practical and avoids picking another which is worse due to concern with the battery issue.

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I've just completed a 4 week minimalist luggage 4 country 3 continent trip using Nexus 5 and a Nexus 7 with BT keyboard case. If a work call I'd have phone for talking through and be looking/typing on the N7, BT tethered so both online. Good for say talking about a place to meet on the phone and looking at the navigation on the tablet. Worked for me. The phone got used by itself for basically going down pub and beer+email chill.
[Nexus 6  General] Psycho Orange:
I hope this will not be. :rolleyes:
[Nexus 6  General] dondian:
+My Nexus 5 2014 wishlist:

-current Nexus 5 size

-5,2" 1080p very high quality display (accurate colors, better outside visibility, real time response time, harder to crack),

-as cpu, gpu and ram goes I know they'll put "latest and greatest" (or close to it), I want the OS to be power efficient and optimised to the max.

-iPhone 5s / Lumia 1020 or better camera quality.

-3000mAh+ battery (combined with mentioned optimisations, to get 7+ sot even doing heavey stuff)

-iPhone 5s level or better speakers (make that two of them. I dont care for One M8 loudness, I care for 5S's quality).

-wireless charging should be a must these days

-put on a screen protector in a factory (perfect fit, no air bubbles and dust).

-as for Android L goes,.. I think it looks nice, but needs to do a lot more. You should be able to do more with "ok google" / google now.

-dt2w should be standard and a very well made one too (not a big draining cause and bug free implementation).

-rival OnePlus One on the price
[Nexus 6  General] :
What you've described would be expensive. To get nexus prices lower...much of the stuff (camera, speakers...etc.) Needs to be average quality. Otherwise the price will be much higher.

You've described a top dollar flagship device. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] thacounty:
I really hope it is waterproof.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Not really a priority I think inside Google as Android Wear is where rain hits the notifications.

I agree, nice to have to but everyone has a cost and a size consequence.
[Nexus 6  General] thacounty:
I think the cost is more negligible than we would imagine. There's no reason that being caught in a rainstorm is still an issue for a $400 device when we have the ability to stop it. The Galaxy S5 has removeable battery and is water resistant, and bezels are not much larger than the Nexus 5, so I don't think size would be a tradeoff.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
It's not the manufacturing cost.

It's the RMA cost for broken seals.

Waterproofing adds a lot more cost then manufacturing cost as if you claim it is waterproof and it isn't.... if you assumed say 10% leaked, it eats into margin big time.

If a $700 phone and it cost you say $300 to make it then who cares, but a $300 phone sold at $300... see?
[Nexus 6  General] thacounty:
I see what you are saying. I can also assure you that these are not being made and sold for the same cost. No chance. Google is not in the business to lose money.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Google had about $5B (with a B!) pass through Google Play store. The handsets are sold at cost.

It's all the orbiting $ they make profit from, like ensuring they have Android right into every corner of the market.
[Nexus 6  General] thacounty:
I'm not positive what they cost to manufacture, that's not my expertise, but the iPhone 5 cost was $226 when the Nexus 5 came out. Are you saying that the Nexus 5 costs more to manufacture than the iPhone 5? It might cost a little more due to screen size, but I doubt it.
[Nexus 6  General] Tunderpimp:
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[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
In 2012 Google only made $15 on each of the Nexus 7s, so he's honestly not tooo far off, haha.

These phones are high end at a low price, so I wouldn't be surprised if the profit margin is the same-ish.

Source:

http://www.cnet.com/news/nexus-7-leaves-google-with-razor-thin-profit-margin/

Sent from Galaxy S3 running CM11
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
Well Verizon not accepting it is only one half of the issue...the other half being that Verizon and Sprint are pretty much the only networks in the world that still use CDMA. Google is not going to push the manufacturer to pay whatever costs they'd have to to get the device licensed for the Verizon network in *addition* to the cost of creating two SKUs.

What it means is that they probably wouldn't be able to sell a Nexus for Verizon at $300-$400 like its predecessors. You'd probably be spending in the $600-$650 area.

But, again, Verizon hates unlocked devices.
[Nexus 6  General] SolarTrans:
Bro my GPE M8 got 4.4.4 within a couple days of the Nexus getting it...

4.4.3 also.

My Galaxy S4 GPE got KitKat within like 2 weeks IIRC.

If you don't own any Google Play Edition devices, please don't go around saying numerous actual owners' experiences are false :)

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You know I've actually liked the 5.5" screen on my OnePlus One enough to where I could see using a device of that size as my daily driver.

I've had a cellular iPad mini with retina display for 4 months now, and I agree with the speculation that phablets could soon replace small tablets.
[Nexus 6  General] SmilerOnline:
I suspect that Google will want to bring a developer device which is capable of delivering all of the new features of Android-L and could also allow Google's internal Android devs a little more flexibility.

One thing that looks quite clear now is 64-bit support,

So they may want to add a little more RAM than 32-bit can cope with, to allow testing of that extra address space for devs.

Also 64-bit brings other possibilities which could lead to better multitasking,

As a result I think that this could take us that one step closer to the smartphone replacing the desktop tower, and with chromecast now offering screen mirroring it surely cant be difficult to cast a secondary display output to the chromecast, allowing Android users to start a phone call with their device whilst it is linked to the CC and editing an office document.

Which leads me into the next improvement,

High end GPU technology,

So with many of the SOC firms looking to brink desktop like GPU performance to their smartphone SOC's GPU's outputting video to both your smartphone display & 4KTV at once can't be all that difficult.

And I suspect that we will start to see this level of smartphone GPU horsepower later this year, meaning that we may see that coming to the Nexus 5 R2/ Nexus 6.

But speaking of this desktop like mode/Chrome OS UI cast to your TV from your Android smartphone,

It would be nice as a developer if I could start to use the official development tools directly from the device itself, allowing me to develop on the big screen at home or continue development on the small screen as I am on the way to work or in a waiting room somewhere...

On my desktop I currently run Windows, I would love to rid myself of the need to use MS solutions and this possible step up from Android could just provide the opportunity to do so.

There are some apps that are exclusive to Windows desktop which I would still like to use but most of them should either be replaced by enthusiastic Android app developers or be able to run on Android Desktop, within something like Wine for Linux.
[Nexus 6  General] MooNWalker:
Use as in constantly connected to WiFi, checking email every couple hours, writing a reply once in a day or two, half a dozen short IM conversations, dozen SMS, a bit of light browsing now and then, short call or two, alarms. Screen brightness doesn't seem to work on N4 yet. Haven't tried maps/navigation, games.

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I'm a big guy with big hands, carrying a 5-6" device is no problem to me whatsoever, but with screen <5" it becomes uncomfortable for me to use the device. At the same time something bigger than 6" becomes to unwieldy to carry it in my pocket, while not being useful enough to warrant me bothering with some kind of bag or backpack to keep it in. So for me the optimal configuration is a 5-6" smartphone with a 15-16" laptop in my backpack. And yes, tablets are useless to me because they don't fit my usage pattern.

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Or maybe instead simply the UX concept needs to be changed? When I was running Sailfish OS instead of Android I nearly never had to touch the upper side of the screen, almost all gestures could be performed in the bottom.
[Nexus 6  General] hello00:
what did i just said? ive owned the m7 and m8 and they both got the update a week later..then first 4.4.4 rom for the m8 was an actual leak..it wasnt official
[Nexus 6  General] tzvi:
I didn't read the all thread, than sorry if I repeat:

What is the strongest rumor about the Nexus 6 release? Because I am going to buy Nexus 5 soon and I would like it to be after Nexus 6, so the price will be lower.

Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
There is no rumor of Nexus 6, that I'll add any weight to.

However, you have these inertia forces which is circumstantial.

Google has released the last 2 phones around end-October. Nexus 5 end-Oct and then Nexus 4 also end October

Android L is out in the fall

Google historically releases new Nexus along with new Android versions

Nexus is not dead says Google

All we're discussing here is wishlists, there is no real knowledge.
[Nexus 6  General] tzvi:
Got that. Thanks...
[Nexus 6  General] SolarTrans:
I don't think you specifies that they're GPEs though...?

If you did, then my apologies ;)
[Nexus 6  General] killerdann11:
I think it'll probably be 3gb and a lower camera spec to save some cost, as they are probably going to try to hit that 350-400$ price point again. It will probably be released at the same time as like nexus 5, so october-novemberish. these dates are also rumors that i saw.

I'll probably buy it.:)
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
OPO has hit $350 with quite a high spec. Today I ordered one, not my use but for my son as his use suits a phablet. Interesting purchase method of nag thousands of people for hundred-ish hours, the Google Play Store click+buy seems somewhat

easier

, I think that's the word...
[Nexus 6  General] RajRockyBalboa:
Thanks

Cool
[Nexus 6  General] SmilerOnline:
Also when looking at the new Android-L API's, I suspect that they will want to utilize the new Audio over USB.

Personally I used to hate the fact that I'd see plenty of iPhone docks but no Android docks as it would be nice to play media whilst charging your device...

But I feel that this is a little too late, as now I'm sure that we could do much better with what is now quite common technologies (ie: Bluetooth Audio, qi wireless charging & NFC to enable the appropriate device settings to connect to the dock)
[Nexus 6  General] killerdann11:
I'm assuming the Nexus 5 could of had higher specs but Google wanted a higher margin so they lower the specs, and if that was the case i don't think the nexus 6 would have all the top specs. This is all speculation though.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The likes of Xiaomi Mi4, OnePlusOne and others won't like Google charge much. These are apples/oranges I know but I got (total paid) my Nexus 5 $385 mid-May and yesterday got an OPO for $361, some specs higher (processor, screen size, RAM, storage), some specs lower (ppi, no wireless charging) but a general overall spec increase. OPO not running stock Android means its promoting a fork of Android (CM).

For Google to keep a decent % of stock out there it can't just let its price increase.

So I think this is going to have to be a $300-$350 device, and making tough choices of what is included at that price. Personally, given the Nexus 7 and its successors, it would be foolish of G to spend more on $ on the screen, but embrace more power efficiency and/or performance with 808 type device.

Of course the flipside is if G gets it right, it will squash the low-volume OPO near instantly, which is both the threat to OPO to kickass its feeble manufacturing and distribution, and for G to do it.
[Nexus 6  General] killerdann11:
I agree with what you said about having google spend less $ on the screen as 2k is not really noticeable on such a small screen, and then bumping up performance and battery capcity.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I'd rather they keep the phone small, no need for any more pixels than present and focus on battery life. Those who want performance can have it but mostly if you put in a faster cpu it spends more time in low-power mode so it implicitly extends battery life. So with Android L, an 808 will probably add 30% power gain. If they focus on fitting in a 3000mah also, then combined you'r talking a doubling of battery life. Then Nexus 5 is what it should have been. For that reason, its the same phone same screen, just better battery really (and faster if you care) and so call it the Nexus 5 2014.

If you need to stare at a big screen, just use a Nexus 7 and drain its 3,950mah, should be Google's answer. With Android Wear you look at your wrist and then either look at your phone or tablet. They also need to update the Nexus tablet to a 8" 16:9 type for better media watching but that's a different thread. Kill the Nexus 10 as its sold badly (and another different thread). Then you got your entire Android ecosystem, wrist, phone, tablet, Chromecast. Personally I hate cars and driving I ride a bike but a decent directions system from my phone would be an improvement from the phone and a bluetooth headset which I currently do.

I live not far from Google here in California, I

can

be bought. :)
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
I really wish google would go back to a 4.7" display. A 1080p 4.7" screen with a sleek aluminum or carbon fiber body (won't happen probably but would look nice) with a snapdragon 805 and 2gb ram is just fine. I still don't see much need for 3gb until ~2016ish.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I'd be interested in that. 3GB gives your investment more life til phone is under-spec for future apps, so yes right now its over-kill but over the life of an investment I suspect its about-right.

I agree, smaller is better, it is less likely to break too if paired with as you say an increased rigid case to protect. Aluminium might block wireless charging though? I use that daily and would miss it as I don't usually connect to cable.
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
Yeah I didn't think of that, as both HTC ones don't have it. Likely why google wouldn't go for it... But carbon fiber could look awesome and be durable if done right.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Do you literally mean actual carbon fiber composite material of carbon filaments bonded in layers with an apoxy to make a stiff light material shaped to the base, or do you mean just mean plastic with a ridge to look carbon fiber like? One is real and would really protect the frame of the phone, you can (I designed carbon fiber aircraft wings) make as rigid as you want in any direction to balance the weaknesses in some angle.

If the latter then its just cosmetic gimmick.
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
I mean full on actual carbon fiber, it would look awesome, especially if they put a matte finish on it (similar to nexus 5) but I'm not sure its in googles material toolbox.

As you said, it would reduce drop damage to the phone and I would finally feel secure about not using a case.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Actual carbon if it does break produces a very sharp edge. In a pocket?

I suspect all you've seen is just fake carbon. Polycarbonate for example.

I'm having good experience with my N5 in the Spigen Ultrafit for daily carry it adds little weight and provides scuff protection or I go to SlimArmor for when roughing.

Now here's the issue - if you make the phone too big, you're less likely to put in a case as its already big, but if you make phone smaller, you're more likely to put in a case and so the phone will last longer. Hence smaller = more durable for that reason. I'd make the phone the size of Nexus 4, less bezel and a tough case and then we can add a sacrificial $10 slim case over to replace over life to keep scuffs off. I really doubt Google will go metal as it blocks wireless charging. Could have metal internal frame possibly.....to reduce flexing... possibly, but we still got that $300 target price and see what OPO has had to do to hit $300.
[Nexus 6  General] drmodify:
I think this is what they are planning. Maybe a multiwindow capable, octa core, with 64 bit processing and 3.5 to 4gb of Ram with 64 to 128gb of internal storage. Still no use for the external card slot due to bugs... thats my bet they way android L is going
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
128GB impact on phone price?

Agreed, SD slot adds hassle no need really for most, and those who "need" it can buy something else.

Once you get to 32GB its enough really for >95% of folks. 64GB gets you to 99% of folks. I'd offer a 32GB/64GB or 32GB/128GB at the $300-$350 choice.

16GB is useless now its a waste to even offer one.

Agree 64bit, because Google then seeds 64bit handsets to make devs build for 64bit so then the apps are there for when app size benefits from 64bit sometime 2016. 64bit is a chicken+egg problem (need the apps to justify the hardware, hardware needs the apps to justify the cost) so need to go to 64bit software 1+ year before anyone needs 64bit hardware or you're screwed stalling pace.

So yes, 64bit needs to be in the Nexus 6 (or I think its called Nexus 5 2014 personally).
[Nexus 6  General] 7TimesCursed:
Couldn't read through all the arguing... I think Google should call the next phone "Nexus". No numbers or letters after it. They can number the tablets to differentiate. As for specs, it will be good enough. Just as every nexus before it.

One thing I know for sure is that I'm buying it. I think Nexus phones are the best looking, best performing, and have the longest update life in that price range. No brainer for anyone who wants a simple, pure, and fluid smartphone experience.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
What, even if its too big to fit in your pocket or hand? That's the trend, sadly.
[Nexus 6  General] 7TimesCursed:
If its cheaper than GPE phones I'll have to get used to it I guess
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
I agree with what you're saying. I'm one of the >32 GB people. I have 32 internal and 64 external, but use about half of my total storage. At times I have filled up both with movies and stuff for long trips. I'd happily pay an extra $50 for 128gb

Sent from Galaxy S3 running CM11

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I like bigger screens, but honestly, whatever it is (within reason) I'm gonna get it too if it comes to my carrier.

I'm grandfathered into an unlimited data plan and its the only way to get a new phone at a good price without getting rid of my data plan.

Sent from Galaxy S3 running CM11
[Nexus 6  General] Jockson:
Personally, all I'd want from the next Nexus phone would be better screen and better build quality. By better screen I mean slightly better contrast and without the god awful viewing angles on darker colors that you don't even find on china phones. The size of the screen should stay the same, as should the resolution.

As for build quality, it doesn't neccessarily need to be made from aluminum. The actual materials used on the N5 would actually feel very nice in the hand if the phone was built better. The power button on mine has the cheapest feel I've ever seen on any decent phone ever. The less said about the vibrate motor the better. It's "small" things like this that make a lot of difference. I really wouldn't mind paying more for a more premium Nexus phone.
[Nexus 6  General] drmodify:
Yes the price will be tremendous so I think they will stay with 16gb to 32gb if they want to retain their legacy of "affordable" phones. And I think they will still sell 16gb so that you will be forced to use cloud services. That anyway is how the future is so its inevitable.

On the brand name... I think it will be a new line since this is a new generation. Something like errr... "Nebula 1" :D
[Nexus 6  General] Towerdragon:
I have seen a few reports that LG is out and HTC could be making the next Nexus really don't know it there is any validity to these reports I'm sure we will not know til release
[Nexus 6  General] P4R:
Good news!!
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Good news IF true, only speculation/rumors at this point.

Sent from Galaxy S3 running CM11
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
No! I upgraded from my Nexus 4 to my Nexus 5 and half the reason was the storage too small. 16GB is nearly full easily.

Happy with 32GB upwards.

I just ordered a OnePlusOne with 64GB, because I can, my son has one I got him and my neighbor and figured might as well myself. It is delivered at least $10 less than the best new price for the N5 so shows N5 is over-priced / under-spec. I would really urge G to NOT make the N5 bigger, its the biggest put-off of the OPO is its physical size is really bad, but heck its cheap+fast.
[Nexus 6  General] Dusche:
Honestly I think that the camera won't be a 16 mp variant, since Nexus devices have always had not the best cameras. I'am very curious what it will look like I hope that it will be a metal body, but that is probably not gonna happen. Is there any info about which type of RAM will be used?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I grew fatigued with rumors when trying to figure out the Nexus 10 future. I'll simply believe only what Google says directly.

What is different now (near future) is there are a couple of new brands coming out with low-cost high-spec phones around the price of the Nexus 5, and some of the mid-range from well known brands, so its now feels harder for Google to get as much "wow" factor.

I paid $385 delivered for my Nexus 5 in mid-May, I just paid $360 delivered for my OnePlus which has 1GB more RAM, 32GB more storage, much better battery life (near double), better front+rear camera. I got a OPO for my son last week, he's had for days, zero problems, performs well, looks well.

Nexus 6, made by whoever, has to compete. Now I'm sure they'll win on sheer presence, quantity of production, more countries available, but in markets like mine in USA, Google actually have to work hard to wow me. So I was thinking they don't bother and they just tune the weaknesses out of Nexus 5 and they're done.

Bigger battery 3000mah at least, and Android L has efficiency improvements

Sturdier.

up RAM to 3GB

offer 32GB/64GB models for $299/$349

SD 808 (I think?)

one model does all LTE bands so a single global model

Call it Nexus 5 2014
[Nexus 6  General] P4R:
Yes, last year people said that N5 has a 3000mah and this was false.
[Nexus 6  General] TheKnux:
Just thought I'd leave this here. ?

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...mu-a-possible-nexus-phone-with-a-5-9-display/
[Nexus 6  General] :
As much as I love Motorola.... I'll never own a 5.9" phone. That's ridiculous. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] TheKnux:
Right. If I wanted a phablet, I'd get a Note and put AOSP on it. I'll stick with my 5 unless they drop that size down. 5" is perfect. They definitely shouldn't change the screen size by the name of the phone. Hell, the Nexus 4 wasn't 4".
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
I'd honestly be surprised if that was a phone, I'm thinking its a tablet....

And IF it were a phone, I HIGHLY doubt it would be the only one, since they want to market to as many people as possible. So if it was a phone, I'd think they'd have a 5" model as well.

But that's unlikely too... So I say its a tablet! Just a guess :)

I want a bigger screen than 5 inches though, maybe half inch bigger.

Sent from Galaxy S3 running CM11
[Nexus 6  General] eAsyy:
More than 5' is bu****