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[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Your statement does apply to other phones. You're seeing g2s, HTC m7s dropping to 250 range which is well below their original retail.
[Nexus 6  General] jackal2001:
Where can you buy a pure edition. I don't see them listed anywhere.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
I do not care about price. I care that it is a brick. Wayyyy too big. Why can't we have a smaller version? All I want is a 5" with stock android and killer battery life. Is that really so much to ask for?
[Nexus 6  General] BarryH_GEG:
Believe it or not some people buy the Note-series

for

S Pen and its associated features.

At $825 the Note 4's 20% more than the Nexus 6. For that you get external storage and a replaceable battery. You also get premium design and real metal. And before anyone says that doesn't matter, "crappy plastic" was the number one attack point used by those that weren't Samsung fans when critiquing their past phones. So if its absence mattered so much its presence has to count for something. The knife cuts both ways. ;)

Other things remain to be seen like the Nexus 6's camera performance, display quality, Wi-Fi/BT signal strength, and battery life; the latter can't be compared until the Note 4's on Lollipop. Reviewers saw a 30% battery life improvement between 4.4.4<>5.0 (pre-release) so the Note using the same h/w as the Nexus 6 should benefit equally from where it is now. I don't think anyone questions that specs-wise all the raw ingredients have been there in Nexus devices. But it's component quality and how they're brought together that matters. Let's see how Motorola does. ;)

I think people who could care less about S Pen and Samsung's features and just want a big phone would be more swayed if the Nexus 6 were $549. At $649 on a U.S. carrier that's probably going to translate in to $199-$249 subsidized and $27 a month on a "rent-to-own" plan. That's $50-100 cheaper upfront and $7 less a month. I guess the masses will decide if that degree of difference makes the Nexus 6 a good value.
[Nexus 6  General] jager420:
Verizon getting love too??!!!HELL YEAH!
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I agree the high N6 price and the high resale prices of N5 don't suggest a major price drop is required,although we'd all certainly appreciate it. It is though due a refresh, quite modest ones, easily done, just seeing their line-up, refresh 5,6,9 makes me think 5" is staying somehow some form. Til today 5,7,10 alongside.

Hoping "my next phone" N5 2015 happens but frankly I just lost a whole lot of respect and interest in Google today. They peaked in 2013 basically.
[Nexus 6  General] GrandMstrBud:
Looks like it will be a 4.7 inch screen? Kind of a downgrade from the Nexus 5 if that's the case
[Nexus 6  General] Judge584:
Stock.
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
Did they announce the AT&T price?

Do you think ATT will add their ****ty apps and delay updates?
[Nexus 6  General] ChazzMatt:
What phone you talking about?

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At Motorola website.

I'm waiting for the Moto X Play to be offered in Pure Edition. It will be my 5.2", 1440 p, 3GB RAM, Snapdragon 805 "Nexus 6". ;)
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Don't care too expensive

Don't care, 32GB is enough with a little hassle, 64GB is ideal. Need for external gone if you got >16GB in a phone.

Don't care carry a $30 USB battery which charges off USB and recharges everything.

Don't care, its a phone, not a work of art to stare at.

Don't care, metal can be as weak as plastic. Cough, iphone 6 easily bending to prove. Material science and structural engineering matter. My N5 is plastic outside, not bent or broken.

Don't care what image-focused people think about image.

Bigger screens drain battery faster, if you care about battery life, get smaller screen.

Don't care about Note 4 it's a $825 something.

Nexus 6, the end-of-line-yet-another-32bit phone. Won't sell in same quantities as N5, so it won't get the same dev community, same effort on frequent kernel optimisations and will be turkey come next year, not holding its ground like the N5 is still capable of a year later. My N5 is bencmarking 90% of the Moto X 2014, a lot of that is due to optimisations, due to large dev support, due to large ownership due to relative price for N5 pulling many towards it. N6 won't get that to the same degree.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
I can confirm this. I own an iPhone 6 and I did go to the Apple Store and put it side by side with the 6 plus, I couldn't see any difference at all and I'm a display freak. I did notice however a difference between it and the note 4, even from note 3 (1080p) to note 4. But a 1080p vs iPhone 6? U can't tell, the display is excellent.
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
So my parents said they'd pay half of it for me when I asked if I could get it but not sure if it's worth it:banghead:

If I do that it'll probably mean not much of a graduation gift lol though my brother got the z2 for his graduation at 600.

What to do???? I'm so tempted to just finally fix my g2 screen for about 80 dollars and wait for more options. Hopefully android L won't take too long to be ported over and I can be content till closer to graduation time:D

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
A nexus is a nexus, it'll get plenty of dev support you can count on that.
[Nexus 6  General] ChazzMatt:
THANK YOU.

And the phone itself is just too honkin' large.

I wanted the Nexus 5 to be even larger, like 5.0" - 5.2" 1080p display (would have loved a Nexus 5 same size as the LG G2). But after that you've got to be careful.

The LG G3 is at the limit of my comfort for a PHONE. I don't care what the display size is, at that point I care what the phone size is.
[Nexus 6  General] GrandMstrBud:
The Moto X will that run on any carrier including Sprint? That's what I like about the Nexus 5 it worked on both GSM and Sprint same with iPhone 6/6+
[Nexus 6  General] BarryH_GEG:
There's 6M XDA members. There were 300M mobile devices sold last year. Reviewers and XDA'rs love the M7/M8 and HTC's lost revenue every quarter since they were introduced. So it's whether the masses "care" that matters if any device is going to be a success.

I personally don't care either. I was just having a conversation. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
It doesn't matter to me any more because any phone I buy to replace my m7 I will need to pay full price because I don't want to be in a contract. The Moto x is about $550 add tax and shipping it comes out to $600. The nexus 6 will come out to about 7 something.

Either way I need a better phone but I don't like touchwiz or the lg software.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
If you wanted to attempt to please all of the people all of the time you'd offer two phone size, identical cpu, memory,pixels, and just vary max storage and screen size.

Then from a dev perpective they are identical. The smaller phone would benchmark slower due to smaller = more thermally throttled.

The phone to get is the one Google is capable of making next year, 64bit a slightly bigger battery and all the power optimisations on next-gen 20nm tech with the 808. If they wanted to do it in say 5.2" and 5.9" form factors then fine. I'm just at all sure there's enough IQ currently in Google to do it given what they released today with a 4:3 32GB $470 tablet and a $650 6" phone.

Android L is the biggest thing, Nexus 5 users benefit for free. Pleasantly surprised also due for N4, my daughter's phone.

Apple and OnePlusOne are happy today. Apple not getting a big undercut to pull from iphone and OPO clearly still winner on spec/price. I really thought we'd see a N6 at $450...
[Nexus 6  General] funkbuqet:
I couldn't agree more. I was really hoping that the phone would be a reasonable size and that N6 was just because it came after the N5. This thing is bigger than a Note 3, that is ridiculous. Unfortunately it might be a deal breaker for me. I wonder if next years Nexus will be 7"??:rolleyes:

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I am pretty disappointed about the price point as well. I would likely have gotten it on contract, so not as big of a deal.

The one thing Apple did right with the iPhone 6 was the dual form factor. Phablets are not for everyone.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Google already has the Dual Form factor.

Nexus 5!
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Don't even try, man.

There is just no pleasing some people in the face of reality. I for one am excited as hell for the N6, while others will be constantly crying over the fact that they cannot upgrade from their year old N5's.

As someone with a N4, I CANNOT WAIT for the N6. Two years worth waiting for this!
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
I have the N5 & am getting the N6 immediately!

Screw all the haters, its the first time Google have gone full blown premium & I can't wait!

Hopefully those people still in denial will slowly vanish too. :)
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Count me in. Are they allowing pre orders for off contract Verizon on the 29th as well? I'm in Verizon with unlimited data so I'd rather get that model but if not I guess I'll go to metro.
[Nexus 6  General] barry_:
be a good chap and go talk about your phone on the relevant section... this is about the N6. :good:
[Nexus 6  General] haris0032:
Ugly
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
I know there are a lot of people who don't want this phone and I can respect that. I don't fall in that category though. Can't wait to buy this bad boy!
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
Watch everyone saying this is a premium phone get it and find the build quality sucks. How ironic would that be. (Jk I want this phone just as bad as everyone else)

And the only thing I'm not liking about it (besides the price of course) are that the bezels are looking a little big. I was going they'd be the size of the ones in the renders.

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Nexus 6  General] anthonyg45157:
Buying this as soon as its avaliable in Verizon Stores. Idc about the size (my gs4 with waterproof case is huge) or if verizon ruins the 'straight from the source updates" a previous owner of a galaxy nexus with a huge dev comunnity and a current owner of a galaxy s4, im happy go back to a nexus phone and i highly doubt ill ever get another samsung phone with TOUCHWIZ

YAY GOOGLE!
[Nexus 6  General] zetsumeikuro:
Shut up and take my money!
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
With respect the N5 has crap battery life. Give us a N5 with KILLER battery life and I bet most people will be happy!
[Nexus 6  General] scottharris4:
Root it and install greenify, won't have crap battery life anymore. Ever since then I've been averaging right around 4 hours of on screen time
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
So about the display..

Would you guys have prefered an LCD display instead? Why or why not?
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
It's not enough. I want more. I want minimum of 8. I want to be able to use everything at decent brightness and not worry about trying to save power all the time or phone dying halfway through the day.
[Nexus 6  General] ChazzMatt:
It's not about premium. It's size.

I wouldn't buy a Note 4 either.

And I'm not denying anything, except I'm not buying this monstrosity.
[Nexus 6  General] scottharris4:
If your 8 hours of on screen time to prevent your phone from running out of juice HALFWAY through the day, you seriously need to consult a doctor about phone addiction. I'm not kidding.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
I was meaning in general. 4 hours SOT is still not that much IMO. I do not want to have to limit wifi, gps etc. I was exaggerating. Nexus 5 with Greeify is not enough. We need a Z3 or Droid Turbo with Stock Android :D
[Nexus 6  General] Coronado is dead:
I think I like it... but I will probably be getting the Turbo and saving some space at the expense of looks. Made mockups out of cardstock of each device and I can't see using this 5.9" beast every day.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I don't like how the front of the turbo looks. It looks like the front slides up with that lip. They also didn't mention if Verizon is preparing to sell it off contract. It will probably cost the same as the nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] Coronado is dead:
I am unaware of a Verizon phone you can't buy off contract. Might cost the same, but seems to be very similar specs aside from the possibility to unlock the bootloader and the 5.2 vs. 5.9 screen (leading to less PPI... which you won't even be able to see, lol).
[Nexus 6  General] DigitalUnderground:
Lmao then why are u in this thread?? Lol friends all too busy?
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
I'm glad many of you are disappointed, it means it will be easier to preorder for us that want it :)
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Well I'm torn between the turbo and keeping my unlimited data or the nexus 6 and going to the $60 metro unlimited plan.

Specs are the same. I do like bloatfree and unlocked boot loader a lot though. Good thing it comes out before the nexus 6 pre-order date. Last time I checked on Verizon's site when a new phone came out they only had the contract option when adding it to cart.
[Nexus 6  General] rizki cimenks:
If Rumor is true, dont ask about the price,,,,,
[Nexus 6  General] Coronado is dead:
They only show Edge and Contract initially on the page, but there is usually a link that says "Show Full Price Option" under it. Look at the Note 4 page for an example.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Hopefully. I'm going to check it out on the 28th. If I make my mind up by then that is. They also don't know when they will get the nexus 6 or I would pre-order it for Verizon and return it if it's too big but they don't seem to have preorders for anything but unlocked.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I just got out of OnePlusOne and those who bought it as an expectation of a phone were happy, taking their existing phone habits, nearly double the battery life. Those who thought its a small tablet and so they could stop carrying their N7 found the fact it only 3200mah battery crap for a big display to be on so long and that's a small battery for a tablet to also have power left to be also used as a phone afterward. So long as not expecting to merge phone+tablet, there shouldn't be any disappointment. Obvious really N5 2300 + N7 3950 = 6250 = 1.94x the N6's 3220.

Remember N6 has to lighten up 45% more screen and 78% more pixels with only 40% more battery and if you look at your battery during SoT a sizeable % is the screen which any Android L isn't really going to improve upon as most SoT isn't system. Obviously non-use time with screen off will improve significantly.

I did some crude calculation of what a tweaked N5 could be, it is currently 69.17 x 137.84 x 8.59 mm, if you increased hxw a fraction 5%, keeping the same bezels to allow a 5.2" screen then added internal volume is 10%. If the battery is occupying 25% of the internal volume and you give all the extra space to the battery then you're giving (10/25) 40% more space for battery so can fit a 3220 battery in a 5.2" phone...... and if you kept pixels at 1920x1080 then its a 10% bigger screen and no more pixels and 40% more battery so you'd get 30% more battery life roughly, approximately, crude calculations. If you add the 30%-40% from Android L project Volta than compounded is 70% gain in battery life. If you take the Snapdragon 808 30% gain and compound that then 2.2x i.e. more than doubled battery life. That then is the N5 to make and get. Note that what Motorola did with the X 2014 was they did the same hxw stretch but curved the back to take volume out so that 10% more volume didn't happen and so the same meager 2300mah battery inside.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
HAHA LMAO LOLOLOL ROTFLSHMSFO!!!!11!!!1!!

No.
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
I keep trying to tell myself I don't want this anymore but who am I kidding I'm still dying to buy it :rolleyes:

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Nexus 6  General] PelegK:
Is there another phablet out there that has similar dimensions and size like the nexus 6 ?

Im not in the US so i wont have any chance to see it with my own eyes before i buy it .. :\
[Nexus 6  General] Batfink33:
The battery comparison isn't entirely accurate. The Note 4 for example uses Samsung's low power AMOLED display which uses less power (and causes less heat thus less thermal throttling and better performance). Indeed all the reviews are raving about the Note 4s battery life. We don't know what kind of tech the N6 is using for its display yet.
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
It's a little larger than the iPhone 6+ and a little thicker/heavier but overall size will be very similar to 6+ ever though .5 inches bigger screen on the nexus 6

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Nexus 6  General] JJ2525:
The Huawei Ascend Mate 2 has nearly identical dimensions.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
The only one I can think of that comes close is the Nokia 1520. It's a little bit taller, wider, and thinner than the N6 but same size screen.
[Nexus 6  General] funkyblue04:
I am not sure. It is massive though, even to the Note 4!

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size/Samsung-Galaxy-Note-4,Google-Nexus-6/phones/8577,8626
[Nexus 6  General] liqn7:
Yes we do , its AMOLED as well.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
And this makes me VERY happy :)
[Nexus 6  General] allglorytoadonai:
To Big and to expensive. If it was 5" and $350 it would be worth it.
[Nexus 6  General] GrandMstrBud:
Agreed, even if it was up to 5.2 and 450 I'd then buy it. Pretty sad this will be the first Nexus I don't buy. Come on jailbreak for iOS8
[Nexus 6  General] ChazzMatt:
Well you are wrong. Because we've already SEEN the benchmarks of a 5.2", 1440p 3GB RAM Snapdragon 805 Nexus 6. Google just didn't release it . They were testing it as late as mid-August. Go look it up. Benchmarks were leaked.

Instead Motorola is re-purposing it as the Droid Turbo (Verizon)/Moto X Play (AT&T). Already passed FCC, both models. It won't perform any slower than the honkin huge Nexus 6.

So, yeah, THAT is being offered in another month. Identical CPU, GPU, RAM, resolution, wireless charging, no SD card, everything. Just variance of screen size. It's the 5.2" Nexus 6 Google should have released, almost released.

And when the "Pure Edition" is announced, THAT is my Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] TONY206:
This should have been called the Moto X+.
[Nexus 6  General] ChazzMatt:
It's going to be called the Moto S when released as a Motorola tablet.

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Look at the iPhone 6 Plus and imagine even bigger.
[Nexus 6  General] DrunkFuX666:
Since the n6 size is so excessively big, gonna try to get this instead myself. But I hope there is some unbranded unlocked version...

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] GrandMstrBud:
Isn't that already available? I was able to configure it and the 32GB was 550 it looked like
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
It's not out yet where did you get a price?
[Nexus 6  General] Daps:
I wonder what the off contract price for the Droid Turbo will be?

I do agree with some of the other posters that the N6 is really a MotoX+
[Nexus 6  General] GrandMstrBud:
Moto X 2nd Gen is on their website. 499/549 for 16/32 if were talking about the same one
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Ah yes correct but I thought you were talking about the turbo since you quoted that pic.

The turbo will be the same price as the nexus 6 but don't know when Verizon will start selling it off contract.
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
How do you know it'll be the same price? I think it may be a little cheaper because of the smaller screen but then again it does have a bigger battery

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Mainly because all Verizon off contract prices have been 599-650 for new phones. Besides a smaller screen it could be cheaper If Verizon will give me it without edge or upgrade so I don't loose unlimited data.

The front of the turbo looks odd. Look how the back protrudes out more than the front as if the front is suppose to slide up or something.
[Nexus 6  General] Coronado is dead:
Just look up angled shots of the RAZR M. Its the same kind of lip/chin. It's just sloping down and houses the mics.

https://www.mobilegazette.com/handsets/motorola/motorola-razr-m/motorola-razr-m-2.jpg

There's one.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Yea I guess that's it. The back just is weird since I was looking at the red one. Preorder for nexus 6 is on the 29th so if I find out that I can order a turbo off contract before then we'll then I may go that route.
[Nexus 6  General] journeyman73:
I personally do not mind the price or size but I think Google should have made the device at least the size of the Note 4 or smaller with a price point around $549 or so. It's size and price might hurt the development community
[Nexus 6  General] TheArc:
They still couldve adjusted and changed around the design, at this point the phone looks identical to a Moto X. The huge circular M logo on the back kills the entire Nexus feel.

Google didnt think the design through. They did get Motorolla to get it done with them but it wouldve been better if they wouldve changed up the design. The Nexus 5 looks nothing like the LG G series. Till this date the N5 design looks better.

And another drawback is the huge 6" screen. Just bums out. Other than those factors, the phone is pretty beast. Especially after they announced the specs.
[Nexus 6  General] squarepush3r:
**** the nexus 6!!
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
I love how so many people say too big going to moto x 2014 which is a win win for moto.

I kinda think Google had to make a phablet to make android better optimized for phablets which is looks to be the trend.
[Nexus 6  General] Jimlarck:
Yep that's one thing I'm looking forward to. Maybe we'll get an official multiwindow feature from Google or other neat phablet features that can still be used on phones and tablets :)
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
The 6plus and nexus 6 are like .2 mm different in height so pretty much identical.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
I personally really like the design. My only minor complaint is that the dimple is a little too aggressive. They should have it smaller and more similar to the one on the original Moto X. However, the phone looks very elegant. I do miss the minimalistic design of the Nexus 5, but I think this is a new step for Google in a new direction.

I, for one, welcome our new Nexus overlords!