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[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
According to ibtimes ..... Everything you can imagine was due to occur. It is a very low value site. They just make it up to get your eyeballs on the adverts. Bad to look. Worse to quote.
[Nexus 6  General] gee2012:
Nexus phones are always launched mid/late october or early november, no secret about it ;)
[Nexus 6  General] :
i really like Nexus 5.

i hope that Nexus 6 dont have 2k screen (less battery), they will not use 64 bits processor but i think it could be usefull with 4gb ram...

Physically i dont like Motorla bodies, i prefer LG desgin....
[Nexus 6  General] giganielsie:
Pics of the Nexus 6/X ? (with another backcover it could be the nexus 6/X)

https://plus.google.com/117938278607892985066/posts/C5GybRfWxDU
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Nope. Its a Verizon droid exclusive.
[Nexus 6  General] nemonius:
After reading about good battery results of the new Sony Xperia Z3, I really hope that they put in a bigger battery.. not like the new Moto X.
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
does the next nexus will have fingerprint scanner?
[Nexus 6  General] Slicktune:
Yup, don't forget the 2k screen, 3200mh battery, and 20 ultra pixel camera from HTC, in conjunction with the moto 360 watch[emoji106]
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Don't forget the water and dust proof along with IR Blaster and dual camera
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
Actually an ir blaster would be nice and not too costly right? But i gueess that would also require a remote app that stock Google Android doesnt have and they probably don't plan on making one. I really like it on my g2 and will miss it if not available on nexus 6 :(
[Nexus 6  General] xbellox:
If this is true, I think it's gonna be too little too big...

[IMG="Shamu / Nexus 6"]http://9to5google.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/shamufinal22.png?w=704[/IMG]

We can now corroborate previous rumors that its screen size nudges it out of smartphone territory, and closer to the likes of the recent push for phablet devices. If any smartphone is really a phablet, this is it—shipping with a behemoth screen that’s a massive 5.92-inches diagonally, with the device’s body being just a bit larger than that. 9to5Google has also learned that, as for the overall appearance of the device, it’s basically going to be a scaled up 2nd generation Moto X with some minor tweaks to make the larger size easier to use.

Notably, a report from last month based on specifications leaked via GFXBench seemingly all but confirmed a variety of facts about the device: 5.2-inch 1440p display, a 2.6GHz quad-core Snapdragon 805 processor, 3GB of RAM, 32GB of internal storage, a 12-megapixel rear-facing camera, a 2-megapixel front-facing shooter and Android L (surprise, surprise). While some of these remain true, a recent device our sources are directly familiar with has shown that only some of this aligns with reality.

The device we’ve learned about is actually going to pack a 5.92-inch screen, as mentioned above, with QHD resolution of 2560 x 1440. This dense screen according to our calculations comes out to be 498 PPI—a fairly impressive number for any smartphone. As such, it’s going to have a battery that is equally impressive, packing 3,200 mAh to power all of those pixels.

As for the camera, it’s actually going to be a 13 MP shooter on the back, and as previously rumored, we can corroborate that it should have the ability to shoot 4K UHD video at launch. As for the front shooter, the device is going to have a 2 MP shooter that is indentical to the one on the 2nd generation Moto X.

source: http://9to5google.com/2014/09/24/exclusive-this-is-shamu-motorolas-upcoming-nexus-6x/
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
You really think 9to5 is a credible, reliable source?

Lol.
[Nexus 6  General] peachpuff:
They can't even photoshop the vol/power buttons accurately heh.
[Nexus 6  General] Seadra:
Jokes on you, AP(AndroidPolice) are reporting the bigger version of this years nexus will have fingerprint sensor.

Yeah, they are reliable. Atleast to some extent like AP, engadget etc.
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
fingerprint scanner is the most important feature in a smartphone today with all the payments and passwords we use that can easily be replaced by fingerprint.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
5.95 is just too big.

Motorola also makes the ugliest front facing speakers.

I hope these renders aren't real. I'm hoping for a 5.2 inch device that is based off of the G3 and similar design to the Nexus 5.

Also, if there does happen to be two sizes, I hope they have the same internals. I don't want a low-powered Nexus device just because it happens to be smaller.

And finally, would it be unwise to buy a Nexus 5 if the Nexus 6/X does come with a 5.95? Does last year's hardware do just fine in today's competition?

Looking@current Nexus 5 owners for advice!
[Nexus 6  General] Rox598:
Have a oneplus one atm but of these specs and size are true i dont think ill be able to resist another nexus :( i like the bigger phones so ive no issue with th size i owned a z ultra for a good while only reason i got rid was the screen resoultion.
[Nexus 6  General] DerRingkeeper:
You`re kidding, right? :eek:
[Nexus 6  General] Jimlarck:
i dont have fingers omg so ur sayin i cant use my fone dont discrimin8 u sexist
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
Looking forward to a bigger screen. I hope it's announced soon.
[Nexus 6  General] Primokorn:
No more than 5.2 inches please :)
[Nexus 6  General] ps000000:
So the Nexus X will be release by MOTO?

This is bad news in my country because

an official MOTO's distributer/reseller was closed for 2 years. :confused:
[Nexus 6  General] Rox598:
Long as you can purchase from Google play you'll be fine
[Nexus 6  General] paychex:
I'd be ok waiting for a snapdragon 810 if they are early 2015
[Nexus 6  General] jsgraphicart:
The next Nexus will be released and sold by Google just like all the Nexus devices before it. It just won't be Motorola selling it themselves.

In other news, it looks like we just got a new look here on XDA.
[Nexus 6  General] ps000000:
My favorites theme is 2010 theme , but now it gone.:confused:
[Nexus 6  General] dr_rick13:
it just came back ;) 2010 is my fav too
[Nexus 6  General] vsod99:
I'm very interested in the nexus 6 if it's specs are as they were leaked earlier. I want a 6 inch screen but I wouldn't mind a 5.2 inch either. I'd like a 2k display and a 64bit snapdragon processor. One issue I have is the design mockup, I don't want it to look exactly like a MOTO X but similar would be OK. Price wise, I'd like under 500.
[Nexus 6  General] bloot:
I hope it's closer to 5 inches rather than 6, guess we'll know more info in the next few days.
[Nexus 6  General] dwang:
A person named Michael Sudol posted a picture of the actual device compared to a lg g3 to android police.

Looks to be similar in size to an iPhone 6+.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
So that looks the least-fake photo I've seen but that sticker..... still has fake-ness hints.

If true a 6" size then I'm disappointed. A large phone makes sense to those who want one device and that doesn't make sense when you got the likes of the Nexus 7 around in the Nexus line which can do a much better job of all the larger-screen tasks and comes with its own battery.

That niche of those who either have a decent one-device reason for one large phone, or those who just want bigger to show off, is not healthy, useful or relevant to phone development nor does it help Android at all as the GUI of Android, the purpose of Nexus line, to be capable of scaling down to <5" size upwards to tablets.

A 5" Nexus is right thing to do for Google Nexus line, simply tweak the weakest parts of Nexus 5 is the right thing to do (not its size but battery, camera, 64bit for Android's sake). If Google is actually going to make a 6" then idiots them and I'm just going to buy a used Nexus 5 as its near-perfect apart from a few issues which matters on the fringe.

I own a OnePlusOne and I'm saying factually from real solid nearly 2 months hands-on now, that >5" is not the way to go for a phone. The way to go is 5" phone and a decent pocketable tablet like a less-bezel Nexus 7 (the gPAD 8.3 comes close 19% bezel vs N7 29% bezel).

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Google Play =

+ good warranty support

- they charge SalesTax and postage.
[Nexus 6  General] badboy47:
I am hoping anything around five inches. If it turns out to be six inches, I will be switching to another phone. I think six inches is way to big.
[Nexus 6  General] tonyreimer:
The NeXus better have no bigger of a screen then 5.2 inches and come with a 64bit processor. Which I believe is what it will have.

Fake leaks are fake!
[Nexus 6  General] dwang:
I don't think there would be enough of a spec bump to warrant a new nexus 5 at this time.

While I would love a larger battery and an improved camera, the current ones on the nexus 5 aren't horrible by any means. I consistently get 5+ hours SOT with my nexus 5 and I don't have any issues w the camera.

And the nexus 5 is already the fastest android device out there. With ART enabled, my nexus 5 is blazingly fast.

I think the nexus x is the only new phone we are going to get this year.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
5.2 inches is perfect. Now I just have to find a girlfriend who agrees.
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
you can use your toes.
[Nexus 6  General] badboy47:
Or what?

*FIGHT* *FIGHT* *FIGHT*
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Agreed, the N5 is a great phone, hence just a tweak using Oct 2014 tech, they can tweak battery mah up, tweak camera up, and use 64bit cpu with a bit more boost there. I'd keep the phone the same size but if they have to make it a little bigger for the battery then a small increase. No need for >1080p screen, as there's no content no benefit and just cost and battery downsides.

If the purpose of Google with Nexus is to be a reference model, Google can't make the Nexus large as then it doesn't act to test GUI at the 5" size. Google can test larger GUIs on a N7 or its successor (less-bezel slightly bigger N7 = N8).

Google can leave others like Moto line to do 6" phones, it's not the role of Nexus to go there.

I'm fearing though a 6" phone is happening, its just a phase we'll laugh back at in 2 years when the 5-day-battery-life 5" $300 phone has dominated.

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History remembers when hats needed to be that little bit taller....

[IMG="tall hats"]http://media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/58/18/bf/5818bfbbeb585713e6bdf053fb661e26.jpg[/IMG]

or skirts had to be that little bit wider

[IMG="wider skirts"]http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-46jCCK7K78o/UcMVrzdcugI/AAAAAAAAPBY/4-UxB7py7tU/s1600/1859godeydress007.jpg[/IMG]

or wigs that little bit longer

[IMG="longer wigs"]http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/article_640x430/public/powdered-wig_5.jpg[/IMG]

These big phones are laughable non-practical current fads. 5" is the maximum size phone for all but the largest 10" of phones. Everyone else wanting one, well look above at how stupid you'll look now.
[Nexus 6  General] vsod99:
On second thought I think 5.5 inches would be the perfect size. 6 is a bit large and 5 is a bit small imo, and the oneplus one demonstrates a perfect balance between the two.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Wrong. OnePlusOne is too big.

5" is the perfect balance.

You must have longer fingers.

[IMG="alien long fingers"]http://m.static.newsvine.com/servista/imagesizer?file=iqballatif4488B99D-54B7-AE1B-35C1-715A3A92ADE2.jpg&width=380[/IMG]
[Nexus 6  General] vsod99:
Yeah I have big hands. Whatever, to each his own. I'll buy the nexus 6 at any range between five and six inches anyway.
[Nexus 6  General] Lucke:
why are you trying to state your opinion as fact? people are entitled to their own opinions you know... if he says the One+ is just right, you have no right to say he is wrong just because it's too big for you.

thanks for the very trollish behavior.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I'm making two points, one unsubtle and one subtle.

Unsubtle: I have been involved in OnePlusOne roll out as a general public. I got loads of invites. On the 'net which is pretty big, it was easy to find 200K+ users wanting 5.5" phones with hype bubble and demand>supply, but instead I tried to get those away from phone forums, strangers in the street, those who expressed an interest, and offering them phone invites. "In real life".

95% didn't want the OPO because it was too big. I managed to get 4 sold out of >100 people who were interested.

So I'm just passing on what the masses want, not tech journalists and the small % in tech forums want.

There are really basic issues >5"

Example from another viewpoint

http://money.cnn.com/video/technology/2014/09/12/crane-iphone-6-3d-printed.cnnmoney/

Subtle: I'm not saying 5.5" and larger phones should not exist, the smartphone market is sufficiently large and diverse there's room for all demands and their associated supply. I'm saying that the

role of Nexus

is to be a reference design for Android which has a consistent GUI experience across small to large devices, therefore the Nexus phone should not be large, it won't be catching the issues are smaller phone sizes. It is a subtle point I'm making. Larger GUI issues can be trapped in Nexus 7 and its successor.

So your point would be valid if I were arguing no phone should exist 5.5" and above, but I'm not making that point.
[Nexus 6  General] Lucke:
odd that you didn't just state that initially, but instead, insisted that another member was wrong on their opinion that the OPO was the perfect size.

also, you can't really use the general public's opinion as a fact either, since ~95% of the general public is pretty much too stupid to function in daily life, outside of the simple tasks they have to perform each day to survive. hell, if the general public were smart, there would be no real need for the iPhone, which brings me to my next point.

with the new iPhone coming out at 4.7" and 5.5" (and the 6+ actually outselling the 6), it tells me that it's not all about size, but the manufacturer. many of those same people that you claim said the OPO was "too big" probably don't have that same opinion when it comes to the iPhone 6+... it's a matter of perception, which you're clearly trying to claim as fact.

now, this doesn't have anything to do with the next Nexus phone, but seeming as though the OS is scalable, i don't really think that the size matters too much for your claims. the overall size of the phone will determine more than the "Nexus is a reference device" argument, which i agree with, but the OS not scaling correctly is all speculation on your part.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Why would a Nexus device be named after a fail of an Orca at Seaworld rather than a shark name like previous Nexus phones? Or actually call it an orca? I think the 'shamu' phone is just a larger moto X. Everyone is in the phablet game except Motorola and I think that's the 'shamu' phone everyone has 'leaks' of.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The claim was made 5.5" is perfect size. That is wrong as the bigger the hand the fewer which have it (normal distribution of human size).

5.5" is only "perfect" for these niches (I'm sure there a few others):

- big handed (<10% of humans, I'd say at 5.5" its <5" as excludes 99% of females) who also generally as physically larger with bigger clothes with bigger pockets. So think adult males in USA.

- those who financially only want to spend once $ for one device (but then these tend to also don't wish to spend much $ also) so one big phone is less $ than one smaller phone and a small tablet.

- the ego maniacs who want bigger better and as soon as one exists they want it (a dominant % in online forums higher than the general population so skew any "votes").

Apple who were arguing 4" is perfect were wrong, already with the 4.7" Nexus 4 I was easily able to handle the phone one handed, and I'm stretched to 5" but that's my limit and according to glove manufacturer I'm "large" (borderline, I find medium very tight) so I knew already >5" needs either the progressively rarer hand or those who operate two-handed.

Two-handed is a big issue. If you're not using the 2nd hand for something (coffee, umbrella, bag, door handle, etc) then you're not likely that bothers anyway. A phone though where you answer and you don't really dictate when the call will happen, has to mesh around what you needed to do during the time of the call.

5" is more amenable to more people as:

- it fits more people's hands.

- it is just as capable as a larger phone as PPI already is high enough you can get all the pixels you want in 5" anyway already

- it fits more pockets

- it allows the other hand to do something

- smaller is less likely to fall as fingers have more finger left to grip

I'm just calling out that above 5" size gets into more niches so is "less perfect" than 5".

I also use quote as "perfect" is entirely subjective, which is accepted that different people prefer different size.

Scalable GUI matters for a touch-sensitive phone as smaller screens should not be more-errors screens with a finger end being a fixed size and human accuracy not that accurate. Smaller screen need tight focus on the GUI. Google own Android as shown by Material Design and Android L which was what they announced in late June.

The agreement by Apple of the iphone 6 that 5" is optimal is amusing, and from my in-real-life experience the iphone 6 plus will be either regretted to be bought or loved by the 3rd bullet from the top category.
[Nexus 6  General] Lucke:
obviously, reading comprehension is not your strongest suit. it was very clearly stated that it was his opinion based on his own judgement. take a little more time to read the entire statement before you jump to, incorrect, conclusions next time.

bottom line is, different strokes for different folks. as Apple found out, several years later, giving people choices (in size) is a good thing.
[Nexus 6  General] bash156:
What's everyone's alternative phone if it turns out that nexus 6 will be a 5.9"
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Honestly I hope the spec rumors are true for this device. I care less about size as long as it is a suitable upgrade to my Nexus 4.

Also seriously, every year we hear the same BS regarding the size being too large. Hell people complained that the Nexus 4 was too large when it was released. Its the same thing year after year until they get it in their hands and realize that this can be used normally once you get used to it.
[Nexus 6  General] sn0warmy:
I recently sold my Nexus 5 and bought the LG G3 because I wanted a better camera and thought I'd enjoy a bigger screen as well. While the camera was absolutely fantastic, the 5.5" size was just too big for me. I gave it a solid try for over a month but just never got used to it. I ended up selling the G3 and picking up a new Nexus 5. Much happier.

With that said, I only picked up the Nexus 5 again in order to hold me over til the Nexus 6 came out. If the rumors are true that it is 5.9", or even if it comes out and it is 5.5", I won't be getting it. I've learned the hard way that 5.5"+ is just too big for comfortable daily use for me. I'm still holding out hope. But if the rumors end up holding true, I am now seriously eyeing the "Pure Edition" Moto X that was just released. It has everything I'd want in the next Nexus phone and at 5.2" screen, it should definitely be manageable. And with the Pure Edition, I have hopes that AOSP development will still be very live and well.

The unfortunate truth is that my short lived switch to the G3 really showed me how terrible the Nexus 5's camera is. Now that I've experienced a solid 13mp camera, I need to get a phone that can take equally as excellent pictures as that G3 did.
[Nexus 6  General] sparhawk6:
I am not excited about the possiblity of the next Nexus having the same, or similar, camera as the Moto X. The reviews say that the camera is hit or miss, with bad low light performance.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
All nexus cameras ever were a hit and miss..

Its a budget phone. Why would any expect premium features?
[Nexus 6  General] pdoobs:
if the camera is even remotely important to you then I suggest you stay far far away from anything made by Motorola.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Or phones for that matter
[Nexus 6  General] sparhawk6:
Well, the Nexus phones have generally been able to keep up in other areas. Why not in the camera? Is that so much more expensive?
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
In what areas? They run great because they don't run bloated custom firmware. Yeah the specs are good. But there is better in other flagships.

And yes its expensive
[Nexus 6  General] sparhawk6:
The screen (regular use and specs), storage space, RAM, processor, and GPU of the Nexus 5 were in line with other top end phones out at the time. What other phone out at the time had better specs in those areas? Furthermore, like other top-end phones, it had NFC and wireless charging, and the latest bluetooth. Also, I don't consider the build quality of the Nexus 5 to be any worse than other top end phones, like the Galaxy S5 or the G2.
[Nexus 6  General] rayiskon:
As a matter of fact our nexus 5 has a capable rear camera module, hardware wise. Blame it on the crappy job stock android does in post processing.

HDR+ can produce nice shots, but it's just too slow for certain scenarios.

On the bright side, with android L's support for DNG (Adobe's alternative to RAW), rest assured we'll see better third party camera apps with (hopefully) better algorithms.
[Nexus 6  General] brianbrain:
uhuh

I think this latest leak is an additional clue that the new Nexus != Shamu. They are likely two different phones. Shamu is probably a Motorola-Verizon exclusive - perhaps even a member of the "DROID" family.

What was the last Nexus we saw on Verizon? The Galaxy Nexus. What was wrong with it (besides battery)? Bloatware and Verizon asserting control over FW updates. That's why there wasn't a Verizon Nexus before the Galaxy Nexus, and that's why there won't be one after. Verizon wants every phone it sells to be bloated up and locked down TIGHT. This obviously doesn't mix well with the Nexus mantra.

So we still haven't seen the next Nexus. Not even a whiff. The benchmarks we've seen indicating specs are for "Shamu", not the Nexus. We don't know the screen size, resolution, SOC, RAM - nothing.

I said it earlier, but as time goes on, it's looking more and more like 2014 won't see a new Nexus phone. Likely Q2 2015 instead. Either that, or Google surprises the crap out of us with something really special - but I doubt it. Why would Google care to release an incremental ARMv7 based reference platform update for phones while simultaneously pushing ARMv8 & 64-Bit with Android L and the Nexus 9?
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
On what basis is your suggestion of it being a Verizon device over the basis that this is a Nexus device?

Nothing but your own word. Also the Droid Turbo was leaked a few days ago sporting the usual weave back which is accustomed to Droid devices, where as this device has no such back. If anything it sports a regular Moto X back only slightly larger. If this was a DROID device, we would be able to identify it as so, this shows no case here.

Also on with 64-bit, its not viable to push such a thing onto phones just yet. The only decent 64-bit SoC is unable to use LTE and aside from power and heat issues it would not be a wise choice to squeeze into a phone. That is why a tablet will be the 64-bit reference while the phone will exist as 32-bit. Do not forget that this was not the main focus after all, the main focus for L has always been the big switch to ART over Dalvik and plenty of programmers/modders will be busy enough trying to incorporate optimizations for that alone. Working 64/32 is a long term goal right now, NOT the priority.