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[Nexus 6  General] falcon26:
Does anyone know if the N6 will have an active display like the Moto X? My new phone will either be the Moto X or the N6. It has to have active display though...
[Nexus 6  General] joshm.1219:
Everything you said makes sense, obviously if we were in Google's position it would seem more plausible that you'll sell more 5 inch phones than 6 inch phones.

Yet, I think he brings up a good point at the end of the article. Would there really be so many leaks of Shamu and practically nothing of a smaller device?

While it makes more business sense for them to release two devices, I think last few months of rumors point to Shamu and Shamu only. It's all speculation though, we'll see for sure soon enough.

And obviously this is all just based on my opinion of what I've seen in the industry's news outlets this past year.

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There's no credible rumors I've seen pointing to if the screen will be LCD or OLED. Obviously it's only useful on OLED. If it does end up being OLED, you can get Active Display on it one way or another, just like any other OLED device.
[Nexus 6  General] falcon26:
What do most people guess it will be?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Leaks increase nearer the release time so this one leak of 5.9" QHD and not also a 5"-ish could mean only a 5.9" or mean a 5.9" and then later a 5"-ish.

Smaller phones suffer from:

less space for battery so calling for more power-efficient

small heat dispertion panel so more thermal throttling making slower for intensive tasks like games

So a smaller phone has the greatest need for new technology if to step up in performance which is the Snapdragon 808 due in 2015.

The actual "Shamu" has been both a 5.2" and a 5.9" they contradict each other. Example of "leak" of 5.2" "Shamu"

[IMG="5.2" Shamu"]http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/newsimg/14/08/motorola-shamu-antutu/gsmarena_001.jpg[/IMG]

90% of the stuff on Nexus launches has been total twaddle. BS filters dials turned up to 11 for sure. I remember the Nexus 10 2 launch rumors a year ago which never happened. I'd love it if good took down that one site which remains nameless which simply makes it up.
[Nexus 6  General] joshm.1219:
Can't argue with you, all good points.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
AP have actual leaked images of the Nexus 6.

The mockup was created by simply turning that into a mockup they can share.

This is to protect the leaker.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Wasn't what they said.

"We've been provided with new information about the next Nexus phone, and can confirm that it will be a 5.9" device called the Nexus 6.

Based on new information we've seen today, I've put together this image that depicts - as faithfully as possible - what the Nexus 6 will look like​

"
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Didn't you read my entire post?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Yes. Nowhere did they say they got pics they seen, they said information. The rest was you guessing.

"based on what we are given " does not "what we have seen". They state they have information, not images.

However, this is a weedy point how it looks. What matters is screen brightness (harder to get with bigger screens), battery life (harder to get with bigger screens), stability (new Android L), price (worried here, it is WHY Nexus was successful). Performance is a given from what I've experienced with my fast stable OnePlusOne costing me $372 delivered with 64GB storage. The "leak" is only 32GB which some who want a phablet to merge with a tablet won't like as merged devices merge their storage demands too.

My phone is OPO 64GB and my tablet Gpad 8.3 $199 with 64GB $30 microSD.

Guessing N6 is $500 by time Google add the salestax and shipping, so no much $ short of my phone+tablet which has 128GB combined storage, 7700mah combined battery.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Clearly you didn't read my post at all.

They confirmed they create mockups once sources images are received to protect the leaker.

When I stated they had created the mockup from such leaked images they had received, they admitted I was right.

This was not in their article, so stop quoting that.

So yeah, they have seen the device & have simply copied it as best as possible to create a digital mockup for us all.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-battery-dual-front-facing-speakers-and-more/

Please quote from where they say they have images they seen. They don't. The inference is they seen screen captures as they talk the most about icons.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
https://plus.google.com/107797272029781254158/posts/SZCP7UaqAkN

Don't forget to read the comments too :)
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
You're still doing it.

They don't actually say they seen images of the phone from which they created their own equivalent. Paste the exact sentence where they say they seen images. Nope. You can't.

They say

"Our image is based on sources and materials ..... (so no mention of images just information).... Our sources provided us confidence in asserting all of the information we did in our post, including the picture of the Nexus 6 we mocked up (again no mention of images just information)"​

You are speculating that "information" includes images. That is a logic error, you're reaching. They might have images but it is not what they wrote.

From what they posted I can only see they got screen capture shots and text/voice of the specification headlines. So we must take with a grain of salt their mockup. They are very precise about what is on the screen but not the form factor.

Also "stereo speakers".... we've seen this before its actually stereo independent channels in some handsets which attempted this. So not like say a Nexus 10
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
I've already posted it.

You just can't read.

You are in ultimate denial.

It will look like this.

It will be 5.9"

Accept it.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Why are your words referring to yourself? They don't say they have images. Read again S.L.O.W.L.Y.

But heck, this is academic someone can read out over phone to me and I can draw something accurate easily. That's might be what they did or they saw photos and hand-drawn from it, but nowhere do they say these are drawings based on images just on "information". And again, read S.L.O.W.L.Y.....
[Nexus 6  General] joshm.1219:
I think the quote pasted twice here implies that they have images. He said that he makes mockups based on source images when they can't share them and for the nexus article he made a mockup. Maybe he can't explicitly say he has source images, so that would be as close as he could get to saying he really does.
[Nexus 6  General] El Daddy:
Here is a comment from Liam (the author) in the comments:

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...-facing-speakers-and-more/#comment-1611756700

Cant we stop arguing about this now? :)
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Sure. So a mockup of a mockup of a mockup, or just a mockup of a mockup, or a mockup of a photo of a real unit, or a mockup of holding the phone......

I agree that how it looks is the LEAST important point :)
[Nexus 6  General] Solid$nake008:
This phone better be in the sweet spot price range of the Nexus 5, $399. If it's STARTS at $499, i'm not sure man might have to skip this one.
[Nexus 6  General] G1ForFun:
Disappointing to say the least. 5.9" is huge and not really what I am looking for.

I'll be waiting on the Moto Droid Turbo and switching carriers most likely.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
I don't know about switching carriers. And good luck with updates and support with the Moto Droid.

You're doing too much over a phone.
[Nexus 6  General] G1ForFun:
Oh I am sorry to offend you sir.

My carrier is not Verizon, but I have been pondering switching to Verizon for quite some time. This phone is most likely going to be released for Verizon exclusively.

Good luck with updates and support? Not sure what that means. If you are implying that I will keep my phone stock and will be relying on carrier updates and support, that would be false.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Offend? Why are you putting feelings into text?

Verizon is notorious with stalling updates of any phone of any OS.

That's what I meant. Good luck with that.
[Nexus 6  General] G1ForFun:
Lol you are quite funny. I won't need the good luck. I unlock and root my devices and control what updates I get. Thank you though!
[Nexus 6  General] DigitalUnderground:
Lol at everyone... It's just a phone
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
I didn't read a joke on my last text. Why do you add feelings to text?? Is that why you're a retired mod?

Well seeing how Moto only has the bootloader unlock tool for the RAZR and the current E, G and X phones and seeing how Verizon will probably interfere with the lock state of it, you'll need all the luck to get custom firmware. Or you'll just have to 'bootstrap' CM11.
[Nexus 6  General] jtwlbz:
If its more than $500 i wont buy it.
[Nexus 6  General] vincentallen2:
The Nexus line is more than a phone.... It's LIFE! .....nerd life. ?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Nodding in agreement with you. This week was my first non-Nexus Android device, the big dev community around Nexus is immensely useful once you realize and step away. The comparative backwoods of my Gpad 8.3....

Also, I bought and sold some other devices this last 2 week and the high resale value of Nexus stand out also, it is comparable in % to Apple, but just overall lower cost to buy new and used. Even 2nd-gen earlier (Nexus 4) sells pretty high and is well supported.
[Nexus 6  General] Solid$nake008:
I'm right there with you brother, to me $500 would be pushing it for my budget and honestly to me one of the charms of the nexus line is affordability. They have always had a user friendly price point so to speak
[Nexus 6  General] Zenouzenou:
i miss the good old time when we where all here and going crazy about every little rumor about the N5...

+ the vibes were good
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
You'd really switch to a CDMA carrier for a phone? Why not stick with GSM and get the new Moto X? With the way I switch phones (literally multiple times a day) I could never be on CDMA, and even if Verizon had the best service in the world, I would never switch for the sole fact that phone options become extremely limited. I dunno man, it seems like an awfully bad decision just because you are unhappy with one phone.
[Nexus 6  General] G1ForFun:
When another member posted the link to the thunderbolt specs I posted my reply, along with my thoughts on the new Nexus.

That's great if you don't like Verizon. I respect everyone's opinion, but I can see others seem to get their panties in a wad over a differing opinion.

Let me explain for you two that cant get past my post mentioning switching carriers.

I get a discount through my company if I switch to them. I get better service all around in my area with them. They also happen to carry the Droid line exclusively. I have been waiting for something I wanted hardware wise to switch. Is it really that wrong?

If it really ruins your day that much that I have been considering switching to Verizon, then move along.
[Nexus 6  General] Hoezack:
Lol
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
I'm sorry if YOU have your panties in a wad over something that someone else said to you, but if you're going to respond like a jerk to my friendly comment then maybe it is you who should move along.
[Nexus 6  General] G1ForFun:
Rumors swirling that there will be a smaller Nexus released :)
[Nexus 6  General] californicated:
Codename guppy
[Nexus 6  General] bradputt:
rumors swirling that the smaller Nexus will be made by apple.

codename " iphone N"
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
Dude you have the nexus 6 already too? I thought i was the only one who got it early. Nice to see others with one. My favorite thing about it is that it has a 6 inch screen but the body is only 5 inches. How much more awesome can you get:cool:
[Nexus 6  General] badboy47:
Nope not me.

*when nexus 6 announces* I WANT IT NOW. I WANT IT NOW.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Leaks! :)

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nexus2cee_image1.png
[Nexus 6  General] Slicktune:
Theres no way this is a 6 inch, this has to be a 5.2... look at his hands, unless he has BIG Hands (you know what they say about big hands...[emoji85] )

Any thoughts???[emoji41]
[Nexus 6  General] Zenouzenou:
Looks like 6 inches for me
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
There is a proportion who will buy it because it exists (assuming the leak is true).

Of those who buy it, a proportion will have a usage pattern which is well settled with the large size and happy, but a proportion will find the phone simply too big and regret it. If supply is less than demand than those who bought and regret can immediately sell it for no loss or potentially a small profit. If supply matches demand then you'll be selling at a loss.

Therefore:

Know thyself. Be abolutely sure you know something this big fits your needs. OR....

... if you're not sure, either be happy with the idea of a loss, or hope supply is less than demand and when you get one you can sell it on for no-loss / profit

The OnePlusOne spent its entire time from early adapters in May through til now with demand ahead of supply, many got and didn't like the size and sold, for no-loss to profit.

If Google manufacture sufficient to match demand, then everyone here who buys it need to be sure they want it and know their requirements well, or be prepared to make a loss selling it.

Logic.

In my case having found I adapted from 4.7-4.95 but could not adapt 4.95-5.5, I know I won't adapt to 6" and so won't buy it. I will however enjoy the reduction of 2nd hand used prices of Nexus 5 I can buy from the cast-offs of those who sell their N5 to buy the N6.

So we're all good.
[Nexus 6  General] dwang:
You could be right. I tried to hold my nexus 5 in that same position and everything lines up like the picture. I have average size hands.

The phone in that picture doesn't look that big.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
If I place my finger ends at the same level of grasp emerging to the far side around my OPO, in a thin case, then I can get my thumb just a fraction past the centerline of the screen. The photo looks to my eyes the thumb can only get to the centerline. That implies slightly wider than my OPO.

If I place my fingers roughly the same relative gap (gap vs finger width) to the photo then my middle finger gets to a little above the centerline, the photo that finger is slightly below centerline, implying the phone is taller.

The issue with the bigger phones is it restricts you to two handed use mostly, you can hold it in one hand comfortable and scroll up/down but that's the limit really one-handed, plus it requires match large pockets. That's all. ;) What tend to suffer most is you place all your home screen icons to the side of your thumb and struggle with one handed texting. Custom screen keyboards which are narrow to the side help.

Bigger phones drop more often and drop harder. FYI
[Nexus 6  General] Slicktune:
Nexus 5

Galaxy S5

Nexus 6

Im shooting towards 5.2 inches plus you have to accomadate the fact hes using a case... should feel smaller without one[emoji41]

BAM!!!!! [Case solved]
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Thanks for the comparison.

Observe the Nexus 5 is retained by fingers and the room for the rest of hand to reach around so the thumb can get to the opposite side.

Observer the rumored alleged Nexus 6 the thumb is already as far across as possible and it is only got as far as half way. So either use 2nd hand, or remove the security of the fingers grasping it and rest the phone on finger ends.

BAM!!!! (falls to floor, damn, wish had it in a case).
[Nexus 6  General] Lucke:
how do you get that? i see a thumb that is, quite obviously, bent so there's no way of telling how far it can reach.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I know as I've got now a OnePlus 5.5 and I can guess slightly wider. My thumb now can just about touch past the mid-way line of the phone with the fingers emerging to the same degree as shown. To get to the far side and accurately touch my finger ends are about 60%--70% covering the underneath so not actually holding the phone it is reliant on friction.

Extrapolate up from a real user-owned-2-months 5.5" to a rumored 6", the phones have similar narrow left/right bezels. My glove size is large but I say my hand are medium/average.

Anyone cares about this issue can make a mock-up like Apple users did pre-order and OPO pre-order.

I'm wondering what % here will simply buy this because it exists and then adapt around its limitations. I've been doing that for 2 months with OPO and I've had to use a flip case to grasp the phone so it doesn't fall whilst in use. These issues will be compounded with Nexus 6 (remember you got double the total width for hand to reach around the underneath and the top so 10% wider = 20% less distance your thumb reaches).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawlH3-j70A

[YOUTUBE]<iframe width="854" height="510" src="//www.youtube.com/embed/zawlH3-j70A" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>[/YOUTUBE]

[YOUTUBE]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawlH3-j70A[/YOUTUBE]
[Nexus 6  General] Mindfield21:
But, but, but...

In the nexus 6 photo the thumb is not stretched.

It forms an angle.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
FYI in our family:

my daily driver is OnePlusone 5.5. I'd say I got medium size male hands, my solution is a flipcase and one-handed I do via grasping the lid of the case under. That way the phone doesn't fall one-handed

My son who has bigger hands, he manages ok with just a TPU case (no lid, so he has a tempered glass screen protector fitted)

my wife has my previous Nexus 5, she flatly refused a OPO (as they actually cost less than N5) and she has it in a bumper case and say the maximum phone she will have, she carries it in fleece jacket pockets and in hands.

my daughter has 2 generation before Nexus 4, she caries in back jeans pocket and nothing larger will fit.

My neighbor, the man went for OPO, his wife refused for similar reasons to mine.

Remember every % wider causes double that % less grasp and at the 5.5" size the average male hand is just about beyond the mid-line of the rear of the case when the thumb stretches to the far side, at 6" then the average male hand will DROP THE PHONE. Bigger hands will cope than average or you just restrict your usage scenarios.

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When you stretch out the thumb, the part of the thumb which touches the screen moves further inwards. The net net is you can't reach the opposite side with average hands.

Think it about it. If still in doubt make a mockup and look where the thumb can touch.
[Nexus 6  General] fkloznica:
Hmmm. From the picture screen is ips so no amoled "this" time
[Nexus 6  General] Lucke:
who cares dude, you've got a real issue with having to be right no matter what. not everybody is the same. deal with it.

different strokes for different folks.

it's really funny that you have an opinion on everything and justify each point you make so that it's looked at as the only correct answer to each situation. news flash, you're not right about everything, so stop acting like you are.
[Nexus 6  General] Slicktune:
Maybe He is right about everything... we just need to stop being selfish and adapt to his ways [emoji60] , its not always what we want, its whats right..... [emoji4]
[Nexus 6  General] floepie:
Ok, so I made some calculations. First, I browsed to the site pictured in the leak. At 100% in Chrome's browser on my N5, I couldn't match what I saw. However, at 90%, pretty much everything aligned perfectly! Now, the difference in screen size between a 5" screen and a 6" screen at a ratio of 16:9 is a factor of close to 1.44. That would mean I would have had to reduce my font size much more than a 10% drop from 100 to 90. In contrast, the difference between screen sizes between a 5" and a 5.2" screen is approximately 1.1, a difference of 10%. So, if the screen sizes differed by only 10%, then a 10% drop in font size in Chrome would allow the my screen and the screen in the leak to match.

In short, according to my calculations, what you see in that leak is a 5.2" screen.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Don't follow you 6/5=1.2 where does 1.44 come from?
[Nexus 6  General] floepie:
At a 16:9 ratio for a screen a bump from 5 to 6 inches accounts for a 44% increase in screen real estate. Stepping back from the calculations, there is no way that thing is a 6" screen, unless he has huge hands.
[Nexus 6  General] Slicktune:
Niceeeeee i knew itttt!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Such denial!

This is definitely 5.9"

Get over it.
[Nexus 6  General] jm700wx:
I was thinking the exact same thing. Unless this person has freakishly large hands, there is no way this is a 5.9 inch screen. I have fairly average size male hands and if I hold my M8, my hands look the same as these do on this device.
[Nexus 6  General] floepie:
What you see in the leak though is NOT a 6" screen. Math rules in schools. You heard if first from me.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
No, its 5.9"

It looks much bigger than my Nexus 5.

No matter how many times you guys scream & moan for a 5.2" Nexus - its not happening.

Don't want it? - move on.

Cardboard Nexus 6 vs Nexus 5 Size Comparison: http://youtu.be/euL-ckRxrNU

Enjoy. :)
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
You could just simply measure your thickness of finger ends...... rather than fonts.

However, all methods are very indirect due to the scale of the hands not known. I compared the finger end widths relative to phone length and it appear bigger than my 5.5" phone but we'll all get different conclusions. The simple telling one for me is if I place my middle finger and smaller finger that same % of the length of the phone, the relative gap between fingers is less than the photo.

I'll do a photo.... 5mins....
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I'd say I have average hands. If I hold the relative gap between my finger ends relative to the width of the fingers across the fear side of the shot, to match the photo, observe my upper most finger ends up higher up the phone on my 5.5" phone than the photoshop/real photo of the alleged N6. From this, I conclude the photo is attempting to show a bigger phone than 5.5", not a smaller than 5.5" screen.

So this method relies on relative finger width comparisons! Different to the pixel density method.
[Nexus 6  General] floepie:
If I put the first knuckle of my pointer finger in relation to my N5, I can get my 3rd, ring, and pinky in the same location as that guy has it on the leak, and my N5 is bare, that is, no case. How in the world could that guy do it on a 6" phone, with a case on it. There's no way.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
More....

http://cdn.androidpolice.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/nexus2cee_44.jpg
[Nexus 6  General] floepie:
Good photo, but do another and show the first knuckle of your pointer finger in the same position as in the photo. You hand and fingers are far more extended that what is shown in the photos.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
When I scale that photo so the finger widths in the photo match my finger widths, the phone in the photo is about 0.5" taller than my OPO.

This is down to hand size comparisons obviously.

I'd say, 80% likely, the photo is attempting to show an alleged 6" size phone. Whether or not it is real and opinions about it are separate issue. Just comparing photos and real life for now.

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It's hard to get all angles right and hold a camera to capture it. Yikes. Need another person to hold camera to match angles of shooter relative to phone. I'm at my limit sorry. My suggestion holds that the photo is looks to be a bigger than 5.5" phone.

I bid overnight on a mint condition N5. Lost :( so wow what a great N6 phone it is, all go buy one and pay for it by selling all our N5. ;) just remember you need a really good case and I wonder when Rhinoshield will support it..... .(hint: it will drop more often, warning you!)