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[Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
The past duration shouldn't matter, because Verizon very clearly said last year when the Ultra series was released that they were not going to replace it as quickly as they had in the past. They want potential buyers to feel that they aren't being ripped off, like Razr buyers did when the Razr Maxx came out a few weeks later, or Droid 3 users did when the Droid 4 came out 5 months later.

See http://www.cnet.com/news/motorola-now-exclusive-droid-partner-to-verizon/

My guess is that they will have updates at some point late summer or early fall. I actually think that the Droids came out a little late last year, based on the fact that they were a little low on the dpi of the displays and they weren't using Snapdragon 800 systems. My guess is that Moto took more time than planned getting the touchless controls and active display working right. I could be wrong about that, but, based on the hardware the phone used, compared with other phones that came out last year, I always wondered if the plan was to come out with the Moto X and Droids early summer?

I could be very wrong about that, of course...
[Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] akellar:
The Moto X and Droids were never meant to have top of the line hardware specs. They were designed around features and software optimized for the hardware. The custom CPU's cleary show they weren't concerned about using the mainstream "best" hardware.
[Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] doogald:
Yes, I've read those explanations. It's also possible that it was just PR.

It doesn't matter - Verizon wants these new Droids to not be replaced as fast as old ones were. So, sometime this year for sure, and probably this summer or early fall.
[Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bigv5150:
Everyone keeps saying better hardware its not better just faster. There is nothing substandard about the x or droids internals. If anything its just as fast as the 800 without the battery drain. I am a car guy at heart so I will use this analogy. Its better to have a 300 HP engine in a 2000 pound car then a 600 HP engine in a 4000 pound car. There both equally fast but the 600hp car is going to suck gas like a *****.

Sent from my Chinese connection unlocked and can't be stopped Droid Maxx
[HTC One X] smeejaytee:
hi i just flashed i and updated to the lastest twrp which went well then i flashed the boot.img for aicp kk and did a backup of my rom as i was going to update to kitkat but the backup failed i then went to hboot to reflash the boot.img to my original rom so i could boot my phone up to free some space on my sd card to try again but suddenly my pc started installing the drivers after which my pc rebooted after it settled i went back to my phone and hboot woulnt responed so i hard rebooted my phone and now it just keeps rebooting i try to go to hboot and it just carries on i dont know what to do if anyone can help i would really apprecite it thank you
[HTC One X] HTC Venom:
Are you sure about the key combo to get into hboot? Volume down and power button at the same time ?
[HTC One X] smeejaytee:
of course but thankyou for the reply in any case i solved it it was dirt in the power button i scaped my finger nail around it and it was fine again so if anybody ever gets this problem this may help
[HTC One X] HTC Venom:
So it was a failure to launch the combo , nice to know , then problem solved
[HTC One X] smeejaytee:
Hope it helps someone
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] howie411:
Where is it? Was suppose to come pre-installed.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaythenut:
it is in the app draw
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] howie411:
Ok, well then its missing from the Sprint version of the devices.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hgoldner:
Wasn't in the Verizon version I purchased yesterday either, but once I downloaded it the ability to get updates in Blinkfeed was there. Not sure whether that ability existed before I downloaded/installed it because I hadn't tried.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] findjaime:
Fitbit question?

It wasn't in my Verizon M8, either. Question for you...after downloading it, the app works great, the widget updates "live". However, while I see the Fitbit under Blinkfeed's Services and Apps, after checking the box, I get no Fitbit stats in Blinkfeed.

I manually pull down to refresh and there is NO CONTENT.

Any thoughts and/or suggestions?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hgoldner:
If you tap on any of the "squares" in the Blinkfeed for Fitbit it will take you directly to the application for your stats. I know that's not actually showing the stats in Blinkfeed, though.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] findjaime:
Therein lies the problem. Even though I only have Calendar and Fitbit checked, the only things that show up under both the "Highlights" Blinkfeed and the "Fitbit" Blinkfeed are calendar events.

Ergo, there is nothing to even click on to get over to the Fitbit application...only square(s) for calendar events (which, when clicked, take me to the Calendar app as it's supposed to do)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] mikey2487:
How's everybody's battery life doing since you've had the new one? Mine has been pretty amazing so far. Haven't been using it hardcore but still using normally like how I used my older m7. Instagram, xda, updating apps, little gaming here and there, play music, camera and have gotten 30 hours off my first full charge all while on 4g, didn't turn wifi on once. Here's a screen shot of my usage. That flat lines on the graph is when I was sleeping. What's everybody else been getting?

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[Verizon HTC One (M8)] wtoj34:
I've been getting amazing results as well. Haven't had it for more than a day though so I've been trying to run it down to zero but that alone has-been tough.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] x70xchallengerx:
How on earth?? I don't do any gaming, mostly facebook/twitter/instagram/texting/reddit with the occasional youtube video, automatic screen brightness and wifi 99% of the time (since I got the M8) and I'm lucky to pull 15hrs :/

It's not heavy use its moderate but I'm not getting anywhere near as good battery life as you :/
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] EchoX860:
Get about 8-9 hours.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] houstie:
I'm getting around 16 hours, moderate use
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] d1ez3:
I think I was doing better on my sgs3 with 3000 mah on aosp. time will tell if this gets better
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] deeznuts:
Same here. I just checked the Battery History and doesn't seem to be accurate for me. I took my device off the charge this morning (first night last night fully charging) at 100% around 6am. It is now 3pm and have 38% battery life left. Looking at the Settings, battery, history info though my chart shows the graph starting between the 60 and 80 mark, says 4h 6m 40s on battery, WiFi shows full green bar (but wifi has been off all this time, wtf is this?), Awake in spurts, same with screen on, Mobile network signal faint green bar all the way.

Says at bottom 11am to basically 3pm so just started analyzing battery history at 11am today?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] rifler26:
Yea, I definitely was also. Even on a battery that was a year old.

That's the new always on scanning they put in after starting with 4.3. It's not supposed to use a lot of power but you can turn it off in the advanced wifi settings.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dansavi:
Looks like my post got deleted somehow...

Oh well, here's my batt life as of this morning.

via my M8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] gettinwicked:
After my first full charge I'm at 36 hours and still have 14% left :D
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] UgXvibe:
I can't complain..
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andrewp3481:
Here goes my experience. I worked today and wasn't able to use my phone a lot..but i would say moderate use and moderate to heavy use after work. No root no s-off. Plain stock and I love it.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dadams312:
I was getting amazing results with jus the temp. root.

I recently did the s-off, custom recovery and perm. root and my battery life went to crap immediately.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] mikey2487:
Best battery life I've gotten so far and still at 25% with normal use
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andrewnelson:
I'm getting around 17-18 hours after random used.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] chrisjm00:
I've noticed no ill effects from perm root, s-off, or custom recovery. Things are just as good as always. For reference, I get anywhere between four to four and a half hours of screen-on time at medium brightness, no wifi at any point in the day. Coverage is so-so at my desk so it does search for signal quite a bit. I'm sure I could get more if I was in a strong coverage area. How badly did your battery life tank after perm-root? Were there any root apps you installed after the perm-root that could be affecting it?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dadams312:
I was getting on average 5-6 hours of screen on time. Yesterday I barely got 3.

I haven't installed anything since the perm. root, or changed any other settings on the phone.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] cyberr8der:
No complaints here. This is the best day I've gotten. I have tweaked a few things.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
S-off and root will never affect your battery life, there is literally no mechanism for it to do that. Anyone who says otherwise is lying, incompetent, or experiencing a placebo effect. If you want excellent battery life (mine was averaging 0.3-1.2% per hour with lte on) then turn off google now (at least turn off location reporting), you can leave location services on but keep it at low battery, greenify anything you dont need notifications for, and don't install apps you don't actually use. Get trickster mod, set the powersave core grouping thing to 1, thermal throttling on, and use powersaver 24/7. I have had powersaver enabled without *any* loss in performance (hide the icon too).
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] CLTnik:
very happy with mine.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] andrewnelson:
I've been getting amazing results as well.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] termleech:
If anyone is having bad battery life and is soff so get faux123 kernel. I don't know what crack he put in it but kernel is no longer my top battery user according to gsam. As a matter of fact it is like 5th or so now. Stock kernel was always at the top of the gsam battery list for me by far (usually 35% or more)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
He removed a lot of garbage code HTC leaves like debugging information that we don't need. Realize though that gsam shows percentage, obviously it has to add up to 100%. It doesn't mean your kernel is using excessive battery, maybe other apps are not running as much. Not saying that is the case, but something to consider. Definitely get the kernel though, its objectively the correct decision to make.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] termleech:
Yea I realize it has to add up to 100% but I've changed no apps or anything except kernel. And my usage is pretty consistent day to day so it's a pretty good gauge for me.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dadams312:
Can you post a link to this kernel?

Kernel is at the top of mine currently at 44%.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] termleech:
It's in the original Android section. I'm on mobile now but can link to it when I get back to the computer.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dadams312:
Thanks, but I think I'll wait on a kernel...reading the comments it seems there may be a few bugs.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] krazie1:
The battery is indeed very nice I'll try to get a screenshot tomorrow
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] thewagdy:
This is the best HTC battery by far and look at my previous devices.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] xXJay_RXx:
What app do you guys recommend for monitoring the battery? My battery is draining quick and I wanna see what may be causing it

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Is anyone getting these wakelocks or know how to fix them?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] UgXvibe:
I use this: Better Battery Stats

Version 1.15.0.0
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] xXJay_RXx:
Yea I forgot I had purchased GSam battery monitor but I wanna try BBS also. Is it bad for the battery to run two battery monitoring apps at the same time?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] buddahj:
I think the battery life is pretty good on this device. Yesterday I had it off charge for 17 hours (normal usage) and I had only used 37%. My evo 4G lte would've used double the battery life at least during the same period.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] xXJay_RXx:
Anyone seeing these two wakelocks? They're named PowerManagerService.Wakelock and bam_dmux_Wakelock. These two are killing my battery. Just yesterday when I got out of work, I had 30%. I get home with 1% left moments from the phone dying on me. Any help?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
HTC did a wonderful job with this device. The battery life is amazing on this thing!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] TNS201:
I just had it for my full first day yesterday and I took it off charger at about 6am and never charged it all day, went to bed around 11pm and plugged it in then, checked my %age and I was at 35% still. Not bad. My S4 would need charged by the time I got home from work. I work 6 to 3pm so when I got home usually was around 15-25% depending on my day.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] UgXvibe:
Wow, that's high. I'd do a reboot and seed if that corrects it.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] huichan:
My battery

I have been getting decent battery life..

A little less than what I expected.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vinceboiii:
I feel like I'm the only one with a bad m8 my battery life is horrible and all I did today was listen to Pandora and some web browsing and one or two YouTube videos. I unplugged it around 6am until now which is 2:32pm. I traded my cousin my note 3 but his m8 had a defect so when I came into vzw with him he got a new m8 so my phone is brand new..I've only had the phone for 4 days
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dillonrchrd:
Verizon

I feel like the Verizon version gets horrible battery life compared to the international and other varients. People are showing battery stats with 7-8 hours of on screen tTim's over the course of almost 2 days. There's also a review of the Verizon M8 and they complain about it. Really pisses me off how Verizon finds ways to screw up every great phone they get a hold of. Hoping future roms help with this issue
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sfreemanoh:
FYI, the GSAM guys released an update last night, apparently there was an issue on KK where battery usage from other apps were being merged into Android System. That's why the AS usage was showing so high for everyone.

Also, as far as the VZW version having poorer battery life than other variants, well, LTE modems do use more power than 4G modems, so that would definitely contribute to it.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] vinceboiii:
I rebooted my phone and got much much better result!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] nabbed:
Li-ion or Li-Po batteries loser their overall capacity every time they are discharged down to 1-10%.

With a non-removable battery, I would avoid discharging my battery below 10%, it's just not worth to have another 40 minutes of screen on time to damage the battery a little bit.

Also, one's heavy usage is another man's moderate usage, and yet another man's light usage.

To compare battery lives, provide the following:

1) Time off charger and radios used (wifi, lte, 3g,)

2) Screen on time and brightness. Voice call time.

3) Type of usage - web browsing, gaming, checking email, watching youtube videos etc.

This is a baseline for an S4---

Time off charger plus radio usage will determine background drain - it may be 1% for every two hours on wifi, or 1% for every hour on lte, just from having those radios on while sleeping.

Screen on + voice call time determines active usage of the phone. It may be 1% for every four minutes while watching youtube in the dark or web browsing or checking email with auto brightness, or 1% for every 2 minutes of 3D game play.

On the S4, if you had much different stats would usually mean that you had a bad wakelock preventing the phone from sleeping, or a defective battery.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] rushless:
Battery life is too subjective unless comparing to your own devices in your own network area, usage patterns, apps, settings, etc, etc.

Comparing to other people is near pointless. Any device if used non stop with a network or playing 3D games will drain quickly. Anandtech has proven that with

actual tests.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sfreemanoh:
Even radio usage time doesn't matter as much as the amount of time the radio(s) had low signals. 1-2 bars of LTE drains the battery much faster than full LTE or WiFi.

As rushless said below, comparing your M8 to another M8 is nearly pointless. There are far too many variables to easily get an accurate comparison, unless if you have two or more devices in a contained environment where each variable can be set to identical values, and where the LTE and WiFi signal strengths would be (nearly) identical.

The best we can hope for are vague comparisons, and usually even more vague information.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] nabbed:
While that's mainly true, we can still try to get an educated guess to the best of our abilities. Hence the guidelines above.

Unfortunately, the stock rom doesn't have the default android Battery Settings, so it's difficult to get the screen-on time. Unless I am blind; I couldn't find it.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 1ManWolfePack:
Probably the most obnoxious thing is android "what's YOUR battery life? Mine is different".

Just unbelievably stupid for all the reasons listed in the two posts above me. I wish xda would ban the damn threads.

Sent from my HTC6525LVW
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] JasonJoel:
You could always.... You know.... Not read them if they bother you?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Evocm7:
Just finished my first full charge and drain since I got it. Skyfall rom
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] nabbed:
Impressive!

Say good-bye to a bit of that awesome capacity due to running down the battery to 1% :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Evocm7:
That's the first time it's been below 30% since I got it and it will most likely never happen again so I'm not worried about it. Just wanted to stretch it this one time. Once isn't going to make a difference.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] nabbed:
Good man!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] blestsol:
Could someone chime in on why my phone won't deep sleep?

Sent from my HTCM8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] UgXvibe:
Don't quote me on this but the OTA Nag removal file may fix that HTCdm wakelock... I believe it turns on when an OTA is pushed. Might want to ask in this thread >> http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2723159
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Quadrider10:
same issue here...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] blestsol:
I just froze everything lol. I hope it works but thanks for the link.

Sent from my HTCM8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Quadrider10:
Should my battery be at 4V?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] blestsol:
Even if you have the data connectivity off option on?

Sent from my HTCM8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Quadrider10:
Everyone's screen shots say 3V...does it just drop to 3v when when it's below a certain percent?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
1) GSsam won't read voltage correctly without root and will default to 3v. 2) Lion batteries drop in voltage as they loose charge.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Quadrider10:
I could of sworn my last M8 said 3V...

Ok after 75% it drops to 3V.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] krazie1:
What is your battery level at when you charge? I always charge at about 6%.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Quadrider10:
ok, but what if you battery is at say 50%. can you fully charge then without shortening the life?

like if i end my day at 50%, can i put it on the charger overnight and will that cause harm?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Quadrider10:
ohhh ok

wow, lot has changed. it use to be that you charged at night, full discharged then fully charge again...

its weird that the way how to treat batteries change, but the actual technology of the batteries dosent,,,
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] :
That's a first to me. I charge whenever and I have never had battery deterioration from any of my previous phones. Where have you read this information?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] nabbed:
I never run the battery below 40%. There's really no need, because that's about as much as I've ever used my S4.

And I charge it if it goes below 90%. It's almost always topped off when I'm not using the phone. This seems to be the best way to keep the battery in the top condition, in my experience.

Battery manufacturers recommend 40-60% charge for storage conditions, which is probably the sweet spot. However, having more charge than that is much less harmful than having less charge. Hence the above technique.

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What do you mean where did I read it? Any guide on Li ion and Li-Po batteries. This has been common knowledge since the invention of Li-ion something like 15 years ago. Has something to do with Li salt crystallization from discharging to much, which lowers the battery capacity.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] blestsol:
Sleep mode

Sent from my HTCM8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] DPArnety:
Anything compared to my Verizon Galaxy Nexus is awesome! Which was the screen and data connections on that device in my opinion. I have completely fell in love with this phone and the battery performance.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dadams312:
I'm having a problem since the new firmware update with GSAM not reporting anything right. I notice the screen time is only tracking when I am looking at GSAM and hit refresh, beyond that it won't track it.

Battery is great though.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Napoleones:
I've had this phone for about three weeks,and so far, I've have not been disappointed.Great Battery Life, haven't been below 50% with heavy use.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] shadolis:
With VenomOneM8 ROM and ElementalX kernel, I'm getting around 30-40 hours of use. I do a lot of streaming with Pandora in that time, as well as Googling, Facebook, SMS, tweaking, calls, Chromecast, and I run a live wallpaper. Definitely rivals my XT912 when it was new.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Napoleones:
Seriously? This is great!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] shadolis:
Yes, I'll try to remember to provide proof after I charge it. I've been using it on battery since 10 last night and I'm still on 41%. It's been idle here and there, but that's still pretty damn good! I'd take a screen now, but I briefly plugged my phone in to fastboot an HBOOT mod :P
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Napoleones:
Yes! That'll be great. Thank you.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] shadolis:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2705613

Keep in mind WiFi seems buggy. Tried other kernels and WiFi issues are resolved. Also, you'll have to do a mod for Verizon Messaging app. I'll try to find the link a little later. Says it's not supported for Verizon phones, but it works fine on mine. Download another kernel you know will work for your phone, such as stock, in case it doesn't work out well for you. If you overclock to 2.8 GHz, probably won't get past boot animation like my phone. I have mine at 2.7 GHz.

Little tip if you're using TWRP... after you flash it, your screen will likely turn black after you try to reboot in recovery. Don't be scared like I was. Hold the power button for exactly 60+ seconds, then recovery will pop up and let you continue to reboot.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] doug260:
Sexy...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] rickyb316:
How?! I'm on 88% this morning after 2 hours. Now 87%. Best battery life I had was when the phone first was unpackaged. It was at 40% and took forever to drain.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Div033:
PSA: I was trying to diagnose my higher-than-average system_server usage and eventually found the culprit: display auto sleep. Switch this off to 1 minute or so to save some juice!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sfreemanoh:
Yeah, auto-sleep is bad. As is auto-brightness. Auto-sleep though seems to never turn my screen off the couple times it was on.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Lazy8:
But what is your screen on time? Best I've gotten so far is about 6 hours screen on.

Sent from my Verizon M8 running Skyfall
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Scrappy1:
Best I've had is 6 hours screen on time in a day. All stock, auto brightness.

P.S. I've found built in dlna sharing causes some process to get stuck at 30% cpu in idle till reboot. I don't use built in dlna anymore!