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[Verizon HTC One (M8)] CB620:
And possibly fix LTE for T-Mobile.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NotATreoFan:
As already stated, S-Off removes all security checks, allowing unsigned radio and firmware updates. That would be the ultimate goal to reach, but if we can get at least a bootloader unlock, then we can flash CWM/TWRP and easily root/flash custom ROMs.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sfreemanoh:
Thanks for the answers guys. So basically a bootloader unlock would give us some functionality, but S-OFF would let us eventually gain full functionality, including unlocking the bootloader?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
S on restrictions s off no restrictions
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] raidflex:
I hope root access is achieved soon, I really just want to remove all the VZW bloat. I can wait for roms the phone runs very smooth as it is.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Zarboz:
I wish I could afford my upgrade bahaha

I'll see y'all in 8-12 months tho!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
You can just disable those apps as storage isn't a issue anymore. Don't get me wrong I want to remove those completely but disable them stops them from running for now.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] d1ez3:
I want root to change the DPI, I hate how huge everything looks. I have been on slimroms for 2 years
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
8-12? Fingers crossed, I bet you can get lucky on Swappa in a couple months and find one for sale at a reasonable price. You belong with the m8...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Z, gonna miss u here man until then! I think someone sent beaups a vzw m8. Maybe the same can be done for u. Definitely willing to pitch in.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
Just to add- Java Card unlocking is great and all, but doesn't serve much to the dev community as a whole if that's all we have. I'm sure the demand to unlock the m8 is much higher than it was with the 6-month stalled launch of the m7 on Verizon. Plus the sdcard slot leading to more vulnerabilities... I'm keeping hopes up that it doesn't take more than a month or so. May get lucky sooner than that though.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] AngioNicholai:
We should start a bounty!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Zarboz:
I need 270$ to do my early upgrade on the edge program or buy the phone outright
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Why? They told me 120 for that. I got two for 240 since I had two upgrades.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Zarboz:
I'm on that Verizon edge program I have to pay off half the balance on my HTC one m7 before I can trade up

That balance was like 230$ plus the first month on edge for that phone was like 40$

I was pretty livid as when I signed that's not how it was sold to me but now I'm stuck with this contract

Already planned on working with [MENTION=711482]beaups[/MENTION] for s off but Verizon crapped on that hope
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] mchief298:
Verizon Edge is a joke... It's screwed with my plans so many times. Can't wait for s-off though. Hope you get everything settled z
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] compir99:
Just got the M8 yesterday....is there a bounty for root access? Hoping to get root access as a bare minimum but unlocking the bootloader would be great too.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
If we do a "bounty" we should make sure the mods are cool with it and it should be a different thread.

The only thing that bothers me about a bounty is I know beaups mentioned he only got about 1/2 the bounty money for the M7. I think we had about 5K in pledges and to only get 2500 is disappointing. I know folks financial situation can change but I would suggest no one pledges if they have any concern about paying up when and if the time comes.

I also think the bounty should be for S-Off only as that will easily allow root access and access to flash CWM or TWRP.

Just my .02...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] shojus:
[MENTION=1615671]Zarboz[/MENTION] needs an M8! For anyone that does not know him he makes **** happen! I got $20 on it if we can get a thread started...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Zarboz:
Bounty threads have been ok for viper devs in the past I don't see why it wouldn't be ok for me

Btw I've been working with htcdev USA on push for kernel source
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
Deleted as not on topic....
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] gramsey1911:
Put me down for 30 for a-off.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NotATreoFan:
There is a strict set of rules that must be followed in order for us to not close bounty threads. Please contact one of the assigned moderators for details and do not post any offers in this thread.

Thanks.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] CWeaver34:
I sent an email to HTC and according to them, you should be able to unlock the bootloader officially through HTCDev. I've tried but to no avail.

"Thanks for contacting HTC Technical Support. Let me congratulate you on your new purchase! Most of our recent devices including the HTC One (M8) can be bootloader unlocked, nevertheless, if you want to have more information on this process, feel free to contact me back and I will escalate your inquiry to the appropriate department"

and then

"Thanks for your response. Yes, our only official channel to unlock the Bootloader is HTCdev.com. I am sorry to hear you were not able to complete the process. If you like, we can escalate this matter so that we can assist you on the most accurate manner."

*I shortened the responses where they asked for my information and such but did not leave out any information they have said.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] sean67854:
Ugh, this needs to happen ASAP. I really want to get into this handset as I'm growing wear of my GNex, but just as I'm convincing myself that I don't really need root to run the wifi hotspot, my power goes and I have to use the wifi hotpot to keep working from home.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] thewump:
I went to the Verizon store just to look at the phone.. I had 5 months left on a 2 year Galaxy S3 and they just switched me to edge, took the S3 (even though it had Cyanagenmod), one month down, and $14.95 / month. I was so happy.

I'm looking foward to Root so I can Dropsync to the SDCard. This was my first 4.4 experience and SD lockdown was a big (and not great) surprise, although I see the logic behind it. Also Titanium backups will be nice to have again.

Also, any ROM developers here? When developing ROMS for a handset like the M8 where the camera app can't be the generic app (because of the dual lens) what is the process? Is the proprietary app bundled with the ROM, or will flashing something like Cyanagenmod mean loosing the 3D features?

Thanks in advance.

K
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] beaups:
Burn(ears)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NotATreoFan:
Did your ears turn red? :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] JJflipped:
This seems promising!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
Glad to see beaups is listening! :D Hopefully this will be the place for updates on progress/work being done.

Beaups, do you have the device (VZW M8) in hand yet?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] lucky_strike33:
Peeps mention money and he comes a running!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
Personally, I think the challenge alone is what gets him motivated.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
I agree. He didn't even get all the money pledged. I think any money is nice but suspect it is more about the challange.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Last time I didnt feel like waiting and sent my DNA for the jtag. Later when Beaups got the exploit I still gave him the money. Im willing to donate to Z and for Beaups. Whenever the mods get the threads organized Ill be there. The M8 is a sick phone!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
Please don't mention any money in this thread or it will be closed. Wait until a bounty thread is approved.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Crooke356:
Must abide by the constitution of XDA.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] beaups:
There is no money in this business, trust me.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Zarboz:
Amen
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] dansavi:
Well then thanks double for the effort. Wouldn't have swayed from Samsung to HTC if you hadn't gotten S-Off for the M7.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
K, I edited my post. Did you already reach out to Tony for a new thread?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
No sir. While I want to be part of this, I simply don't have the time needed to keep track of pledges.

On the M7 bounty thread, it was a nightmare as people pledged for S-off, Root and a boot loader unlock. Then many changed their pledges and others dropped out.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Yea, I dont have the time to keep track of that either. But I assume there is a way without one person having to facilitate.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] wtoj34:
If people are looking for someone to maintain the thread I'd be up for it. I think we should switch over to pms or open a thread ASAP.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
Thanks! Sounds good. I think the first thing is to reach out to a moderator and get the rules around this. Once clear, open a new thread and we will make our pledges there.

I suggest we keep it to S-off only. Once you have S-off , root and custom roms are easy. If you don't specify, people will make specific pledges and it gets messy.

Just my suggestion....
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
Yeah please, s-off only. It would be silly and downright stupid to release a root exploit without an unlocked bootloader at least. I bet beaups and co have a few undisclosed root exploits or have rooted it already, its just a matter of finding an s-off route.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Div033:
Will we NEED an unlocked bootloader to achieve root alone? I was under the impression that root could achieved without S-Off or an HTC Unlock, but correct me if I'm wrong as its been a while since I've used an HTC device.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Mike02z:
Another suggestion is PayPal pledges only. In the M7 bounty thread people pledged kittens , tacos, etc :D
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
The absolute easiest way to get "root" (which is just putting an executable in a directory) is by flashing a zip in recovery. This requires an unlocked bootloader. You CAN get root with an exploit, but 1) it can easily be removed or patched and 2) root cannot make /system writeable (afaik I tihnk qualcomm is the one that did this) for more security. So even if you have root, your settings cannot stick/be modified. It is pretty useless. Now, s-off... that is the king. You can just trample on whatever security features are present. In the past, devs have used "temp" root exploits to allow them to exploit further vulnerabilities to get s-off.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Div033:
Ok thanks for the explanation... I was afraid of this, because I remember it being this way for my brother's Rezound when he first got it. This was back before it had ICS so temp root was still useful for freezing apps with titanium, although now disabling them is built in and is pretty much the same thing, but I'm sure some things can't be disabled so I guess it could still have partial use... Depends on what they don't allow you to disable.

I'm really sold on this phone but I really rely on root for a lot of things. I love being able to use titanium and WiFi tether as I'm on unlimited data. I'm planning to buy it off contract.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
If you buy it off contract just get the dev edition if it works for verizon. Temp root wont be release because they just don't want to waste it. Root exploits are much, much harder to come by especially given the security updates google did with 4.3.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] AngioNicholai:
If someone creates a bounty thread, put me down for $100
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
Guys they literally said don't talk about bounty money here...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
Another reminder, this is not a bounty thread. Nobody should be mentioning money here. We are only in this thread to discuss progress being made with the s-off and for answering questions about the process
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Div033:
Dev edition was my first impulse but unfortunately it's only for GSM networks. I suppose it's possible that a Verizon Dev edition could surface in the future, but there's been no word about it yet.

I wouldn't expect them to release a temp root, I was just rambling. I'm hopeful they'll discover an unlock/s-off method.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fernando sor:
Having spent four months on an app I can attest to this.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ericerk:
This is literally the only thing holding me back form buying this phone.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] thewagdy:
I'm down for a bounty. The M8 is awesome. Mines coming tomorrow gun metal gray. Unlimited Data:) Stole my dads upgrade and gave him my M7. An upgrade from his cracked thunderbolt. HTC phones just dont seem right until there is S-OFF
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Dont let it hold you back. The phone is awesome as it is. By the time you get used to it Beaups will probably already be posting.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ericerk:
I bought an S4 (mdk),It had an issue and I had to replace it, so no more CM or Bl . It bit me... $300 of pain. I'm afraid of doing that again.

I Refuse using that phone again, or going through 3 months of maybes.

I'm just afraid.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] owenbeals:
just wondering has anyone tried kingo?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] scotty1223:
where did you see that? i havent seen any s off reports for any m8
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] CB620:
Bootloader unlock my mistake
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
That's because ours is blocked on htcdev.... stupid verizon.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sevinex:
I hope my suggestion does not conflict with any XDA rules/guidelines, but perhaps instead of just a thread for pledges, we create a online fundraising platform for people to donate to (think Kickstarter equivalent). That way the money would be collected up front and held by a third party until S-OFF is achieved, at which point the funds could be awarded. If S-OFF is never achieved (God forbid) then simply return all the funds to the donators. I am not questioning out the integrity of XDA goers, but after hearing that Beaups only received half of the pledged money pool, it seems to me that the above would serve as a better method of managing pledging. If wanted, I can aid in the setup of this page, recommend some sites, or something of the like? I will be upgrading to the M8 in the near future, and would really like to see S-OFF achieved sooner rather then later.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Crooke356:
Does xposed framework work on HTC devices with root only? The Rezound was my last HTC but I never went further than using safestrap as I picked up the GNex around the same time. Since, my repertoire has consisted of everything but HTC, where root and xposed can do a lot.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] mchief298:
Just gonna sit here.. and wait... :3

It will be done when it's done.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] cj2566:
Already tried. No go
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] orangekid:
Ok ladies and gentledevs,

This is the ONLY way we will allow a bounty thread:

1) Someone sets up a thread to track pledges, very clearly outlining the target.

2) people pledge donations, and NO MONEY is sent at that time to ANYONE.

3) the total can be added up in the OP etc.. the thread should stay on topic.

4) Once the target is clearly achieved, the pledges are sent directly to the PP account of the developer. No conduits or proxies.

5) You send me bacon.

Once again, NO MONEY should be sent anywhere prior to the target being met. If this is done any other way we will not allow it.

Please do not discuss monetary remuneration in this thread, if you wish to do a bounty thread, you must start a new thread done in the way I have stated above.

Thanks :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Frankie1588:
I am totally down for a bounty for s-off. sounds like we just need someone to manage it.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] orangekid:
Sounds like you just volunteered... :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] bsbuggs:
Crickets chirping.... To that reply..lol
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ScottIsMyName:
If root (even temp root) is achieved, would firewater not work on this to get s-off?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
Root and temp root are not different here. If you are locked, all root is temp root. I don't know if firewater will work because it seems to be a hardware-based exploit. I am guessing that it does not work currently. I would guess, based on nothing, that devs already have root and tried it or already know it will fail. I don't know, maybe s-off will be released tomorrow. There is no point in speculating, just be patient and grateful.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ScottIsMyName:
No point in speculating? That's the only things for us mortals to do while the gods are at work :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
All you need is s-off. Then use super cid to change your cid then you can use htcdev to unlock boot loader yourself. Well this is what I did on my m7.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] l7777:
Didn't think this was possible either. It is how I unlocked my DNA but I was under the impression that it no longer worked.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
I used this way only 5 months ago. But I really can't say for sure. If a java card surfaces we will find out then?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] oneandroidnut:
if you have s-off why do you need unlocked bootloader???
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Changed it to the m7 gpe an then was allowed to unlock. Since there is a m8 gpe I was thinking it might work again.

---------- Post added at 08:46 AM ---------- Previous post was at 08:35 AM ----------

I always thought you need unlocked boot loader to flash recovery were I flash root ? If s-off allows me to flash recovery an root then I don't I guess
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] oneandroidnut:
S-OFF allows everything. if you have s-off and locked bootloader it wont matter you can still have root/rom/kernels etc at least I could on og one and one max
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
bounty threads are payable AFTER work being produced, not before hand. If you see any otherwise, please alert myself or another mode. I strike down all I see.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
As is, even with root, firewater doesn't work.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] the_passenger:
I believe you. You didn't even want my donation when I asked you. :)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] rjd584:
I was at the verizon store today and booted to hboot. I noticed it was locked, but s-off.

Is this just the store phone?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
Likely using a pre-release device as a display model
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Have not checked mine but going to now lol. I got both of mine a day before release. Manager hooked me up
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ScottIsMyName:
Would having access to one of these help at all? I'm assuming not, but just wondering if it could have unsecured stuff dumped off of it that may help
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] ocman40:
Both locked s on
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
nah, wouldnt do a darn thing for anyone
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Eyalkn:
http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...2014-m8-and-s-off-last-years-verizon-htc-one/
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] billymaloney3:
are jcase and beaups collectively working on the S-Off as well?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
Yes, they are. Jcase just posted that he is getting the m8 now. They will be working on it, though there's no telling how long it will take. But with a temproot solution like this working to s-off the m7, I doubt there will be much in the way of them banging something out right quick on the m8.

...At least that's my optimistic view of things, anyways.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] orangekid:
Where there's jcase and beaups there's a way.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] wah00kid:
Has anyone tried this?

http://bit.ly/1hdr8k1

It says it works for all variants.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
It's wrong
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
I'm not at this time, I've yet to get one.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NotATreoFan:
I tried the HTCDev unlock within 45 minutes of the release last week. They didn't forget to shut it down like with the M7 launch in August. :(
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] lucky_strike33:
Tried fastboot unlock bootloader

My All New One
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
There is currently a temproot solution (Weaksauce 1.0.1) but does not allow /system write access. Jcase has not yet obtained a device but will be working on it as soon as he does, which will probably be some time next week. That is the status as of 4/1/14
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] invisiblek:
ignore me...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] aer0zer0:
is there a possibility of a chinese method of buying the token, like for the droid maxx?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
Sure, only if someone is willing and able to commit a crime like the american who sold unlock codes to the Chinese did.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] aer0zer0:
Yay!!!!!! Then there is a chance ?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Well I sure someone don't mind commit a crime . That's a every day part of life where I'm reside. But I think an exploit is what gets the dev's going.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] scotty1223:
are you back with vzw? or are you getting a different variant?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jcase:
Unless I can find a non contract VZW one at a good deal, I'll pick up GSM. Going to head out and about today.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
I know a good cybercrime lawyer ;)
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sonic2756:
Got my Javacard. Shoot me a PM if you're interested.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] aer0zer0:
same deal as before?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sonic2756:
Yup.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] aer0zer0:
wanna repost the weblink for those who dont know? or are you doing via PM only. Im interested
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] JJflipped:
http://technosamigos.com/unlock-htc-one-m8-bootloaders-carrier-versions/

This is claiming Verizon M8 is supported on htcdev now. (there is now an actual M8 option too)

Can someone confirm/deny?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sonic2756:
I can't have a huge thread like I did last time. I'll PM a mod and see if a feedback thread is allowed but that's about the best I can do :P.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
How do

you send a Fn pm on the app??? As I used you for m7 an loved it.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] d1ez3:
I doubt anything has changed, but I don't want to try and wipe my device right now. Has anyone tried since they updated the site?
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] NotATreoFan:
Still a no go.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
I'm ready to send my today so let me know...
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Resputan:
Thank for checking this, I was just about to start installing the sdk etc at work to run this so even though disappointing saved me some trouble I guess :(
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fernando sor:
yes confirm still no go on htc dev.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] lucky_strike33:
Verizon just wants us to suffer. Nothing new

My All New One
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Tigerstown:
Mine is on its way tonight. Glad to see overnight shipping this time.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] mchief298:
Please delete
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] jessbowring:
On it's way out today!!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] Sonic2756:
As per mods request, please try to keep all the Javacard stuff out of this thread.

Thanks!
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] scotty1223:
java card support: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2704126
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] 123421342:
It's not temproot by the way, there is no such thing as temp root. Root is root, the security is just not removed because you need more than just root permissions now to write system. As I understand it jcase had an exploit valued at a lot of money by the way, and he can write to xbin so su can run from there. Everything else is write protected. You guys have no idea how lucky we all are that he released it instead of selling it. We have ****ing root on a major flagship device a few days post release and still, as always, you complain....

/rant
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] fronc:
Who is complaining? In any case, this is not the thread for complaints.

Thank you for explaining 'temproot'. This thread eagerly awaits any progress on S-Off.
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] PerCompLLC:
Um... Thread doesn't exist.

<< Invalid thread specified. This can happen for a variety of reasons-- most likely because the thread or post you are trying to view has been moved or deleted. Please return to the forum home and browse for another similar post. >>
[Verizon HTC One (M8)] scotty1223:
Check the general section. Mods have deleted the other thread because it "advertised a service"

Can't link ATM