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[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Of course some devs will buy it.

My OnePlusOne.,..... not Nexus, have unlock bootloader, rooted, TWRP.

My Gpad 8.3..... not Nexus, have unlock bootloader, rooted, TWRP....

What's your point?

Nexus has always won on price. Let's see.....
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
Do you even know what you are comparing the Nexus with? A company with almost non existent customer support and another with extremely slow OS updates!

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
http://www.cnbc.com/id/102070651

Now with apple announcing an event Oct 16, will Google "bring it" with something big? This is interesting
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Do you even know what you are comparing the Nexus with?

All these devices have unlocked bootloaders, custom recovery and ROM and kernel dev support, and aren't Nexus devices.

LG who made my Gpad 8.3 is a big company, heck, its the same as the golly, the Nexus 5. I just blasted their ROM away and put my choice of ROM which is today CM11 M10 (about to move to M11).

I won't, say, go for the Samsung Tab S as no CM support but I'd be ok with Tab Pro as CM support.

Nexus is primarily about high specs for low price, Android does the rest.
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
I think you are a bit delusional comparing a pure Google device to others in terms of development!

But ignorance is bliss so enjoy...

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Well as owner over years of Nexus: 4, 5, 7 2012 7 2013, 10, and OPO and Gpad, having a view that Nexus is inherently better is a blissful delusion from ignorance.

My OPO has had no problems and good specs for $360 delivered. Official Google Play for Nexus 5 is $454 delivered, but I waited til others stocked and got it outside of California $385 delivered in May. Aware that OPO support is inferior to Google's but its all factored in the price plus 14 day full refund no-questions and after that just don't go silly with your software choices (duh!). I ordered my OPO, it worked and performed well then cascaded the N5 to my wife (and N4 to my daughter). My only greivance has been physical size, which is why I just ordered a used N5.

Nexus is all about specs for a price is the core truth.
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
Eh you're wrong. The cost of a phone factors marketing, distribution and so on.

OnePlus One is cheap firstly cause it's marketing was low key and bigger phones are cheaper to make!

The Nexus is cheap for similar reasons except that they have more distribution overhead. One the plus side, they have great customer service.

I own a OnePlus One and I can see why it costs $350. Other than its retail packaging, everything else screams bargain basement build quality compared to the elegant looking Nexus 5.

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I agree the N5 is an excellent phone. I bought new for $385 in May as my N4 was too slow for my apps and I needed a better camera for a wedding (N5 camera I find good), but our family needed another phone come July and cheapest was OPO $360 and of course if it failed on delivery then I can get full refund. I agree OPO you get what you pay for, which in other term means you pay more because you're interested in less important things such as brand or looks. My OPO has not a single fault. I accept if it got a fault I'd suffer through poor customer service. My son got an OPO, also not a single fault but his hands bigger and he's happy.

Bear in mind when I bought the OPO, there was no new Nexus was the rumors at that time. Current rumors is a Nexus 6. Both rumors suck. Still, N5 is a good phone, the N6 rumors has help drop N5 prices and bought used one over weekend as I find OPO too big and N5 is a good phone. I might need to replace its battery though $30 typically.

Eyes open here. Only concern is if Google do a major price drop on N5 I could have a new N5 instead of used N5. But then... the rumor is N5 has stopped being made and not awash with N5 sales yet.
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
You're lucky it only cost you $360 delivered. By the time shipping taxes and conversion were done, it cost me around $470.

I miss my N5 but on the bright side I sold it for $385 a couple of weeks ago.

I can't wait for the new Nexus. Hopefully they will have a 64gb option and similarly priced to last year!

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Well I was being succinct. I didn't got me $360 it cost me much less as I was early OPO supporter, I got plenty of invites and after giving them away to deserving members and family, I began selling invites and they sold initially quite high cost, now I'm selling them for $10 and a few sell /day. My net profit from OPO's idiotic system was above the cost of a phone so I cost me negative (i.e. better than free).

I'm still getting OPO invites faster than I can process them into sales, I pasted one here about to expire to someone who asked yesterday who by the way confirmed via PM they ordered it.

From that OPO experience I learned two things:

Bigger than 5" is not my hand size and usage preference, and I've learned this lesson very cost-efficiently. Many others did too who sold OPO as too big usually for a profit. Not saying >5" is bad for everyone, my son with bigger hands is perfectly happy.

People can be manipulated into any opinion, e.g. OPO's difficulty in getting it made many simply want it. I see such crap in Apple and heck, the Nexus 6, does not even exist to buy and people want it... without seeing price... and it too big.... and if its sold in volume its used price is less than new so expensive lesson... unlike OPO if you tried+disliked you still gained financially....

Opinion based on experience not theory, hopefully counts for more...

You're not in USA? Well yes, I bought my phones in USA. My Nexus 4 I bought new from USA play store, I sold it whilst in UK in July for $245. They cost used to buy in USA $100-$150 depending on condition. I got my daughter a used N4 in USA immediately after selling the N4 in UK. Helps pay for the flights.

Well my OPO has 64GB and yes its less worry about storage but from my experience 32GB is enough for a phone. Of the 16GB or 64GB choice, 16GB is stupid too little, I suffered 16GB Nexus 4 for some time and it led me to N5 32GB. I don't really need 64GB phone. Tablet though, different story, it stores more media and I put a $30 64GB microSD in my Gpad 8.3 and its full.

History, drawing specs line between N4 and N5 predicts N6 would be 32GB/64GB options $400/$450 +tax+shipping so $450/$500. Compare $500 to $360 for OPO.
[Nexus 6  General] Jimlarck:
Just saw the first post. And this is so off, so bad. It's weird how time can make rumors look silly.

Point is, in due time, everyone's gonna be cool with the 5.9 inch screen. Some'll get it, some wont(of course, that is if the 5.9inch screen is real, I'm personally hoping it isn't).
[Nexus 6  General] vincentallen2:
So shamu isn't the droid turbo

This is the droid turbo:

http://www.androidcentral.com/leake...l-outs-verizons-unannounced-motorola-flagship

I hope you notice that it has physical/capacitative buttons and not on-screen/software buttons like the leaks show, and that the screen is only 5.2 inches.

android central also states this in the article:

" It looks like Motorola will have some great flagship status phones this year, including the already available*Moto X, the rumored Motorola*Nexus 6*for Google, and now this Droid Turbo."

Hopefully, this will stop all those that are in denial about an impending 5.92 inch nexus. Its happening, and it will be here soon. Accept it, and move on. The nexus 5 will still android L and the OPO will too, so there's two alternative options for you.

Long live the nexus 6
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Even though the Motorola device with the 5.2" screen has been found - people will still deny the 5.92" Motorola Nexus. LOL

They will now state the Nexus 6 will be based off the droid turbo LOL

It also answers another argument from the denials

"Motorola wouldn't release a phone with a greater spec than their top tier Moto X"

Role on the Nexus 6, its gonna be awesome! :)
[Nexus 6  General] vincentallen2:
Lmao yup! Your absolutely right. I bet someone's typing that exact sentence right now. Its like their trying to use reverse psychology/Jedi mind tricks on google

"The 6 inch screen is not what you are looking for...." Lol

But if you really just look at it, this all makes sense. With google now making a nexus 6, they have/had a nexus for every screen size:

Nexus One: 3.7" - 3 inch

Nexus S: 4" - 4 inch

Galaxy Nexus: 4.6"

Nexus 4: 4.7"

Nexus 5: 4.92" - 5 inch

Nexus 6: 5.92" - 6 inch

Nexus 7: 7.02" - 7inch

Nexus 9: 8.9" - 9 inch

Nexus 10 : 10.055 - 10 inch

Now with this being said, my theory is that google will now do updated revisions of the current Nexus line, like what they did with the Nexus 7.
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
Remember last year when the LG bigwig flat out denied that they were the manufacturers of the Nexus 5?

Then 2 months later it came out and was manufactured by them?

Maybe Motorola is pulling a LG on us and denying it or at least nothing confirming the screen size!

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Nexus 10 16:10 - canned after 1 version

Nexus 7 16:10- canned after 2 versions

Nesus 9 4:3 unlike the 16:10 two Nexus 7 and the Nexus 10

Nexus 4 16:10 - upgraded to Nexus 5 16:9 - then what? Nexus 6 by itself or Nexus 6 and a Nexus 5 revision?

My theory, assuming Google not stupid is they go with two phones, a right-sized 5" for most people and the over-sized 6" for the minority who prefer. Whilst you'd think that would then make the phone size issue moot, you'd then add hundreds of "which size" messages when giving choices.

I don't see many N7 moving the N9, it is much bigger but not that much more useful. Gpad 8.3 is a more logical jump, or Samsung Pro S 8.4 once CM support it.

Price is the unknown.

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Which LG statement? This one?

http://www.engadget.com/2013/05/28/lg-kim-wong-we-wont-make-the-nexus-5/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_5#Release

May 28th to Oct 31st is 5 months. Not 2 months.

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Until the Nexus 6 is announced by Google it can still be a rumor with a posibility it won't happen. Heck, the leaks may be from field testers, many giving "too big" feedback and the project is binned.

N6 is probably happening, I agree, but its not certainty happening.

I agree, denying something which is likely happening is not useful but one can certainly call out its stupidity if its the only Nexus phone rolling forward. Personally, roll forward the Nexus 5 2015 64bit version, which will be better and longer supported than the 32bit Nexus 6. Sit waiting on the Nexus 5 2013 til then.
[Nexus 6  General] vincentallen2:
They weren't "canned". By your definition, the nexus s, 4, and 5 were "canned" because they stopped manufacturing them. It's like I said, since they a Nexus for every size, they can now make new revisions (e.g. nexus 5 2015).

And I HIGHLY doubt that google will sell two different phones just because Apple did it. Its not going to happen. If there was ever a perfect time to do that, or would've been last year when LG made the nexus 5. "Rumors" from last year also stated that they were going to sell an Nexus 4 LTE with 32gbs of storage along with the nexus 5, but you see how that turned out.

Google knows what it's/they're doing.
[Nexus 6  General] dazed1:
You bring my hope back sir, thanks ALOT!!!!!!!
[Nexus 6  General] raazman:
http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2ip6bm/cpuid_of_motorola_shamu_nexus/
[Nexus 6  General] Akr706:
Removed. Already posted above. :)
[Nexus 6  General] Kushblow:
Yeah man, people who don't think the Nexus 6 is coming out very soon are delusional.

Also, The people who are saying they won't get it because it's "too big" , you're the same bunch of losers who said 4" was enough and anything more is "too big" back in 2010, and don't be mad because you recently purchased a N5 and can't afford the N6 now, haha. All in the game baby!
[Nexus 6  General] raazman:
Lol about the size thing, take a look at this thread: http://www.droidforums.net/threads/do-you-want-a-4-5in-phone.165646/
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Google sold two different tablet, now don't. So they have changed how many of a device they offer.

Google have made 16:10 tablets 3 times, now a 4:3 so they changed to copy Apple.

Draw a line, Google isn't in all cases knowing what it is doing. Their Nexus 5, for example, took the LG G2 and put in a too-small battery.

The phones getting bigger thing, as our thumbs haven't got any bigger what you've seen is accomodation to larger but it gets less and less attractive

Compare

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/11/03/weekend-poll-did-you-were-you-able-to-buy-a-nexus-5/

where the undecided and against were 25%

to

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/1...-9-is-the-nexus-6-going-to-be-too-big-to-buy/

where the undecided and against is 63%.

So that's your proof there. Nexus 6 will sell, but be less popular than the Nexus 5.

The Nexus 4 vs 5, the size of the bezel was much less on the N5, you got a lot more screen relative to the size increase and much better brighter display. The N5 was 3% taller for a 6% bigger screen, and only 0.7% wider. So a noticeably improved product for a tiny impact in hand and pocket size. The N5 vs N6 is a totally different both are small bezels so it is much more a 20% increase in size.
[Nexus 6  General] vincentallen2:
One more thing I would like to note:

Just by looking at the leaked pictures (all of them), the nexus 6 can't possibly be 5.2". No matter how hard you wish, pray, or whine/cry to google, it just cant be.

The Shamu vs LG G3 pic should clearly confirm that its 6" and not 5.2". If it was, then those bezels would be HUMONGOUS (see iPhone 6+), but its not. And we know this by looking at the leaked pictures with nexus 6 being held in the person's hand. That phone is huge. I love it, and I don't even have it yet. Get with the times, this is the era of the Phablets, and Google apparently knows this.
[Nexus 6  General] SolarTrans:
Thing is, Motorola's version of Android is about as close to stock as it gets. The only modifications to the OS are useful enhancements (like always-listening and active notifications).

I kinda doubt they'd do a Nexus for that reason. It wouldn't be much different than their flagship in OS or style. With LG, stock Android is a fair bit different than their own skin so it makes good sense.

Not saying that they shouldn't do it, just that it's kinda unlikely.
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
Nah man the Nexus 5 is named after it's memory space. 32 gig of storage. 3 + 2 = 5. Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] :
Yes and for 16gb, 1-6=5. Problem solved.
[Nexus 6  General] rdiehl13:
A Motorola built nexus would be nice... I've always been a fan of the build quality of their phones
[Nexus 6  General] droidmk:
Motorola is owned by Google, so it would make sense for them to build it.
[Nexus 6  General] rdiehl13:
Motorola was* owned by Google.

http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5358620/lenovo-reportedly-buying-motorola-mobility-from-google
[Nexus 6  General] droidmk:
I stand corrected.
[Nexus 6  General] LeoRex:
1) wait for LG to give out the official info on the G3.

2) Take out some of the fancy bits

3) Nexus 6

It is going to most likely be the 805 SoC from the looks of it... 2, maybe 3G of RAM. I am HOPING they don't give in to the hype and throw a 2K in there.. the current full HD display is more than enough for a 5 inch screen.... Going higher would be a waste of resources (power/money/R&D)...

Google found a branding style... The Nexus 5 and the current Nexus 7... expect them to stay along those lines with the next gen of Nexus devices.
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
Yea, I hope they spend every cent that they would waste on going to 1440p and spend it all on a larger battery.
[Nexus 6  General] ck.chunkeat:
This on top of a better camera and we have a perfect phone for me. :)
[Nexus 6  General] inconceeeivable:
Does the new HTC have a removable back? I understand the appeal of MicroSD, but I hope there's never another Nexus device that can be taken apart. So much classier from a design perspective.
[Nexus 6  General] SolarTrans:
No. The M8 has a MicroSD slot much like a SIM card slot.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
I agree, but I see some level of hope with the modifications Google is doing to their SD card with KK. I see more hope with Google being more restrictive with SD card

And yes HTC wanted to survive and SD card is one such way. Google also wants to sell more nexus devices. How many people on XDA get Samsung's due to SD card. I can only imagine what an exodus to nexus would happen in XDA if nexus released nexus with SD card support.

ThatThat being said I don't have hope for Google doing that. Let's hope for 64gb+
[Nexus 6  General] hello00:
yeah i think a 64gb internal storage would be fine with me but i doubt google is making any money making us use their icloud storage or whatever.,i think if they implement a microsd slot in their next nexus itll boost their sales
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
You forget the part where Google doesn't really care about the sale of Nexus devices lol. Since 64gb storage now cost the same as 32gig (source from oneplus developers) then we'll be seeing 64gig models next year. I'll be more than happy not having an SD card with that amount. My 32gb Nexus 5 is doing quite well, especially with all the cloud syncing I do.
[Nexus 6  General] mortenmhp:
Yes they started with the nexus one, but between the one and the nexus 4 there has been no real convention for the naming(so no they do not go by generation):

-nexus one(likely because it was first)

-nexus s(because it was popular at the time to designate a second generation with an s, HTC desire s, samsung galaxy s, iPhone 3gs etc.)

-galaxy nexus because Samsung got cocky and wanted to push their brand

At least the last couple of versions has followed a naming scheme according to screen size, consistent with what they have done on tablets(and yes I consider 4.95 inches to be so close to 5 they might as well use that name).
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
Who says Google doesn't care about sales? Obviously they do, Google is a for profit company. I am sure they don't make much profit off each individual sale they do have an agenda and that agenda translates into profit. Whether or not they do make a profit is another story. Google is pushing as of lately to hardware. Between nexus devices, GPE, chrome caste, chromebook etc.

Even LG said they were not selling the Nexus 4 at cost and have no interest in doing so. I would assume Nexus 5 is no different

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Still speculation Google has not came out with screen size. Nexus 4 and 5 were also the 4th and 5th generation nexus. Just because the tablets obviously follow screen size doesn't mean that phone does as well. Look at Samsung they Have Samsung galaxy "S" series and Note Series. Which is obviously named after each generation where as the tablets such as the "Tab" and note series are named after screen size.

In my opinion it's most logical that Google is following the same pattern as Samsung.

We won't know until Google comes out with a name that puts this to rest, like naming the phone nexus 6 if the phone is still 5 inches. If the Nexus is 6 inches and still Nexus 6 than the debate continues and possibly Google is trolling us lol
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
There's 3 different Nexus devices with 4 inch screens so that one is debunked. 4.7 inches is 5 inches if you're rounding off for 4.95 as well. I really hope they name the next one something cool though. They can't call it a Nexus 6 because that name is copyrighted. It'll still be the 6th generation Nexus phone though but I doubt it'll be 6 inches. Nexus phones have never followed a screen pattern and the only 4 inch Nexus was the Nexus S.
[Nexus 6  General] mortenmhp:
Well as I said, up until the nexus 4, no particular pattern emerged it was not until the naming of the nexus 4, 7 and 10(all of which were released not too far apart) that this pattern emerged. As for your rounding, if you round the screen sizes to one decimal it's going to be 4.7 and 5.0.

I'm not saying it is by chance that the nexus 4 was also the 4th nexus, but as fummod mentions Google may not be able to name the next one nexus 6, and they are definitely not naming the one after that the nexus 7...(effectively putting an end to the naming convention md1008 believe they are using) So it's not unreasonable to suspect that they will continue using screen sizes, and as mentioned the nexus 4 and 5 do fit this pattern.
[Nexus 6  General] Kushblow:
Nice find!

It's quite pathetic some people are so rigid in their mindset that they refuse to accept progress/change and are locked into their limited feedback loop. A good mushroom trip would straighten them right out.
[Nexus 6  General] vincentallen2:
Yes, however, Google has NEVER sold two Phones simultaneously.

And no one knows, or let alone cares if the nexus 6 is more popular than nexus 5 or 4. Normal consumers don't even know what a Nexus is to begin with. Im always asked, what type of phone do I have. When I tell them, they then respond "is that a type of galaxy phone? I thinking about switching to Androids". Then I have to explain what a Nexus phone is.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Yeah!

Fashions still popular now!

[IMG="platform shoes"]http://sneakernews.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/04/kevin-hart-air-jordan-1-bred-platform-shoes-1.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="Hats"]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/6/68/Isambard_Kingdom_Brunel_preparing_the_launch_of_'The_Great_Eastern_by_Robert_Howlett_crop.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="large skirts"]http://mentalfloss.com/sites/default/files/styles/insert_main_wide_image/public/51328797.png[/IMG]

Oh, these aren't currently fashionable as they were impractical, darn it. Oops.
[Nexus 6  General] vincentallen2:
WT....F?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2525515

Phones sell more than tablets by factor of 7, narrowing smartphones vs tablet is factor of 4.5.

http://mobiforge.com/research-analy...bers-handset-market-share-mobile-operators?mT

If you were to move in a direction to fit the market you'd shift from 2 tablets and 1 phone (Nexus 7, 10, 5) if anything to more of both types (2 tablets, 2 phones) or if you were restricting yourself only phones or two phones of different sizes and one tablet.

Google, the claim is, is not dumb.

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attempting humorously to compare a shoe too tall to walk, and hat so tall they blow off and skirts so big you can't sit down, with a phone so big you can't use it one handed or put in pocket. Fashion has its habit to make bigger than practical and let history burst the bubble.

Phablets have their place and role but its a clear divide between one handed operated devices and two handed operated devices.
[Nexus 6  General] DT84:
http://tktechnews.com/2014/10/08/droid-turbo-pdf-leaks-more-nexus-rumors/

What’s interesting is rumors of on again of again smaller nexus 6 aka nexus x.

As for the nexus Rumors. And I call them rumors because I have nothing to conform this with.

A GSM version is coming to ATT but a unbranded model aka a nexus could also be based of the turbo.

Stay tuned. This source promises docs and images to substantiate the rumor. We’ll see.

Lol.