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[Nexus 6  General] jcarlm:
I'm getting this regardless. I do wish it would come in solid color options instead of two tones.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Your OnePlus is 154.9 mm Nigel?

I make the Nexus 6 154.4 mm based off this & the mockup: http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/1338/4441/original.jpg

LG G3: 146.3 mm

Nexus 6: 154.4 mm

OnePlus: 154.9 mm

iPhone 6+: 158.1 mm ﻿
[Nexus 6  General] metallized:
I main reason I have my N5 is because of its software and developments it gets... Always first to get the latest google has to offer and more... I did not care about the camera or battery... It will b nice to have to have better camera and battery but those things r not a deal breaker for me... And I think for all the Dev friendly Fone seekers here, we will buy the N6 regardless of its size.. There will b no other Fone to get same updates and developments like the nexus. I always thought that people buy nexus for that reason but apparently doesn't look like so... Anyway 5.2 or 5.9 with or without fingerprint scanner, with or without OIS my next Fone will always b a nexus as long as google offers it...
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Looks about right.

The OnePlus is a cheap phone once we saw the LG G3 we can see how they made it cheaply. Yes it is tall. It's not hard to make 6" out of the same height, if you let the cost go higher with the details to work out with thinner bezels. The issue ye'all find at that height is it just doesn't fit in pockets, the shorts I'm wearing now, the N5 would fit in the zip-up lower pocket, the OPO can't it goes in the bigger hand pockets and when I sit down it falls out. FYI the bigger phones basically fall more often is all I'm say about the height.

The width issue, is subtle, given the phone more likely to fall issue, you do put in some kind of encasement, and then the width is even wider and the N6 width is wider than the OPO you'll have the issue of it basically falling to the ground as your finger ends underneath can't reach past the centerline when your thumb above is able to reach past centerline. This will be person hand size finger length specific for one-handed operation. We each have differnet one vs two hand needs.

I'm just making the point the bigger the phone, the smaller the % of users who like it, which is fine if you're providing a range of phone size, bigger will thus extend market share, but if just one one, bigger will shrink market share. I was offering invites for free for shipping <1 week for a $360 5.5" 3GB fast 64GB phone, and I was getting "too big" feedback from about 96% of people. That's my anecdote base. We don't know N6 RRP but my guess is $50 more than current N5 so $450+tax+shipping ~ $500 total.

Hoping N5 drops $100 fire sale

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[Nexus 6  General] badboy47:
Please be around 5". No more than that Google. N5 is big enough already for me. I had to get use to it for awhile.
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
If the n6 is 6" I will NOT be buying it, it just doesn't make sense for google to do it and I bet a lot of people will stick to the nexus 5 just because of that.

Most people just don't want a 6" phone in their pocket, the n5 pushes the acceptable size limit imo
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
It makes perfect sense why it would be 6", its the nexus 6

Until you've had a phablet, and used one for a long time, big phones are just like small phones. If you have a small phones all phones look huge and yours looks normal. If you have a huge phone, all others will look tiny while yours looks regular because you're used to it.

I've had both Note and Note 2 when they came out and felt perfectly fine after some usage. Hell even my Tab 3 felt normal to use after one of my phones broke and every phone looked small to me in comparison to my tab since that's all I used for about 2 weeks, and all I wanted to do was use the bigger screen. I didn't even want to get a nexus 5 because of how small the screen seemed but now I'm used to it and that's all there is to it. And I have tiny hands for a dude.
[Nexus 6  General] DroidDavi:
The reason it makes PERFECT sense is that Google can't make a phone based off the moto x that runs stock when the x is nearly stock. That was fine in past years since the software would set them apart
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
People saying it makes no sense for there to be a Nexus Phablet even though there are android Phablets?!!! Acting like they have just invented a form factor no one would want.
[Nexus 6  General] hockeyman12c:
What if Android L has 1 handed mode? So you with a simple toggle your main controls and keyboard to one side of the screen. I think this would fix a one of the big problems people have with a big phone. Would a feature like this change anyone's mind?

I personally can't wait to buy this phone. I'm 6'5 myself so this would normal size phone for me. I have been tempted to get a Note but didn't want to deal with touchwiz.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
No.

The issue is not that a Nexus phablet exists (rumored).

The issue is if the only Nexus phone that exists is a phablet.

If the N6 as rumored is:

- an additional Nexus phone which complements the N5, and the N5 is upgraded then we'll all have options to select.

- if due to the fact that bigger phones are easier to design means N6 precedes an upgraded N5 then those who prefer smaller simply wait a little longer. The N5 is a good phone so waiting a bit longer many will be fine with.

- if the N6 is the only Nexus phone then Google has done an own goal and has been expressed this just means users back away from Nexus.

Anything which hurts Nexus hurts Android hurts all Android users as Nexus acts as an anchor for quasi common API and GUI to limit the OS per manufacturer ratio. Observe that Android is roughly half the cost on average than Apple for good reasons and many Apple "innovations" are just an "I" ™ in front of an old idea.

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Yes.

Hope this is a N6 which complements an upgrades N5 then all sizes are pleased.:highfive:
[Nexus 6  General] 1234west:
Buying when it comes out
[Nexus 6  General] rahulpat13:
If there was another flagship Nexus "phone" then a phablet would be justified. But if the phablet is the only choice then it wouldn't be acceptable for everyone. I think the N5 had nailed it and 6 is a little too big! But that's just my opinion, have to see after the release what mandate do the customers give in general!
[Nexus 6  General] Laggalot:
Its very sad that atm Im not even considering it in the slightest.... too big, motorola design which i dont like, cpu not 64 bits... they should have just realeased it later....

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 6  General] SenK9:
I wouldn't mind a bigger screen if the device itself didnt become much bigger than my Nexus 5. In other words .. slim bezels!

If our Nexus 5 had zero bezels, we could fit a 6.1" screen in the same physical size.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Honestly if this size crying does not stop I might be tempted to make another N6 thread for actual discussion on the technology and the software. Not an bloody echo chamber about how its too big for them.

Hell with the amount of complaining about size you would think this would be something that was going to be forced into everyone's anal cavity, Not a mobile device. Its absolutely absurd the amount of *****ing is taking place here.

Can we just have a goddamn civil discussion on the Nexus 6 without having to ***** on the size? Please?!?
[Nexus 6  General] Slicktune:
Well Idk about you, but 6 inches in the anal cavity would hurt...

BTW we need to determine a size first before we even bother investing time in what we would do with the phone or how we would enjoy the specs, why would I spend a month straight talking about a phone I don't even know how big it's going to be, to then turn out it's not the size I want, guess it was a waste of thread talk because now I'm not getting the phone... see what I'm getting at...??? we need to determine the size first.... baby steps young ome... baby steps.... [emoji64] [emoji64] [emoji64]
[Nexus 6  General] ironjon:
Sincerely I like the Nexus 6, but before purchase it I want read info about usability, battery life and camera.

If these three areas are enhanced I will purchase without any kind of doubt
[Nexus 6  General] cathain:
Really excited if the Nexus 6 is essentially going to be a bigger Moto X but one thing I'm wondering will it be possible to install Motorola Active Display? It is such a great feature it would be very disappointing to have the hardware capable of it and not be able to take advantage of it?
[Nexus 6  General] 7TimesCursed:
I thought the name of the thread was "Google Nexus 6 - What do you think?".. There are just as many people complaining about the ones who say don't like the 6" phone. If you want to start the "Nexus 6 - Only OP's opinion matters." thread then go for it.

And guess what, I think the mockup is way too big for a nexus. The nexus line has been slowly gaining more popularity and making it smaller would help google sell much more.

What sells more? Galaxy Note or Galaxy S? IPhone 6 or iPhone 6 Plus? HTC one or One max? I can keep going..

Of course my whole argument depends on one thing. Does google want to compete, or not? If not, then enjoy your new tablet.
[Nexus 6  General] wazka2:
It seems that everyone has forgot why Google has introduced Nexus line.

As far as I know it was to help developers get a high end phone at a affordable price. It never seemed that google is trying to push it to a wide general public, some people still doesnt know what Nexus phone is.

Although I am a bit dissapointed at the size it should be a good proposition for people actually developing stuff and contribute to android ecosystem.

I will defo buy it if its below £350.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Are you a developer?

What can you develop on a phone you can't develop on a tablet? Only dialing and SMS differs?

I'd counter argument that a Dev who only has a phablet loses opportunity to test on cramped displays. In the same way that on average as more phones exist than tablets most apps don't take full advantage of tablets size.

Material Design in Android L is about Dev one GUI across all sizes. You then must test it on small and large. If Nexus is a reference then it must itself be small and large.

Your point is why Nexus 5 not why Nexus 6 and N6 it is to complement N5 I.e. two phones. Google is silent.
[Nexus 6  General] xaznxplaya:
Hi guys,

I read a few pages. The concern I see is the size of the phone. I had the N5 before which I loved, I switched to the S5 when it came out and didn't regret it. Although, I planned coming back on the rumored N6 but from what I read, it's not that much of an upgrade if you don't consider android L. S5 still had a better camera, it's waterproof and it has a sd slot. It's size is perfect for me as well. What do you guys think?
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
Do people with N5 really need new phones? And if they do can't they just buy a Moto X? I mean who is that phone for then?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The smartphone market is so big and profitable it allows to survive all sizes and range of specification to cover anyone's perception of their needs.

The Nexus 7 sells real world a little over half the cost of the nexus 5 for comparable specs and gives bigger screen than any phone. So why make the phone worse as a phone whilst it can never be as good as a tablet?

If you focus just on a phone then it benefits more from compactness reliability waterproof long battery life. Tablets benefit more on larger storage.

The 6 phone makes most sense if you are aiming to own one device which is cheaper to a phone and tablet and so cost is crucial factor.
[Nexus 6  General] Radixtrator:
Stupid thing is, the note AS well as the iPhone 6+ is selling a lot more than the smaller one. So your argument is pretty much invalid.

I will most definitely be getting the N6 as a replacement for my N5. The moto X is over 600$ in Germany so that's way too expensive
[Nexus 6  General] SenK9:
Actually, the S4 (and every S before that) has sold better than the Note equivalent

http://www.dailytech.com/Strong+Won...are+Outselling+Galaxy+Note+3/article34028.htm

Same goes for the iPhone 6 over the 6+

http://chitika.com/insights/2014/iphone-6-adoption

Bonus fact - the Note has actually become physically smaller since the first version, even though screen has increased
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
The 6+ isn't selling a lot more. They are just produced less so not as many available.

400k 6 produced daily vs 140k 6+

HTC One M8
[Nexus 6  General] Radixtrator:
Sorry should've googled before posting. But wasn't the Note 3 the most sold Samsung Device?
[Nexus 6  General] Chris Hansen:
No, the S5 is touted as the best selling Android phone on the planet currently. It was only second to the iPhone 5S in the second quarter. The S3 sold 60 million units. As the Note 3 is still for sale, there's no definitive end number, but it's in the 50+ million range.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Don't know quantities to say "most" (could do survey?) But many in the OnePlusOne forums were N5 owners looking for upgrade primarily in battery life. Which it was and nearly doubling.

The Moto x is not an upgrade from N5 it is similar to worse eg smaller battery

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Nexus-5,Motorola-Moto-X/phones/8148,7885

Of those who got OPO many (again not scientific) moved back to N5 due to too big but fortunately due to constrained supply of OPO typically sold at a profit.

The OPO is a real battery upgrade.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/OnePlus-One,Google-Nexus-5/phones/8603,8148

Hard to tell obviously for an unreleased phone but the rumored N6 battery of 3200mah may be suffering from battery relative to OPO due more light and more pixels but probably better than N5

So no the Moto X is not what a N5 owner would want to jump to
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
A larger battery does not an upgraded phone make.

In my humble opinion, the new X is definitely an upgrade to the N5. [Slightly] better processor, bigger screen, better build quality, Motorola's awesome software additions, and from what I've read it does have all day battery life which is tricky to pull off with the N5. The new X is definitely a viable upgrade for those who don't think a 6" Nexus will fit their needs.
[Nexus 6  General] rahulpat13:
For a consumer, yes absolutely! For a developer? Not so sure!
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
My bad I'd pulled a link which was old Moto X, this is one is new Moto X vs N5

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Nexus-5,Motorola-Moto-X-2014/phones/8148,8897

I see it suffers from the same battery size. This is one point to observe, the current generation of technology seems to place smaller batteries in smaller phones due to the engineering challenges. This makes me think the 5" needs time to allow for tech to improve to get both performance and battery life. So best you can do in 2014 is go bigger.

This link seems to challenge your assertion

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Our-...t-is-done-and-the-results-aint-pretty_id60564

It is slightly better on new Moto X than the N5, a modest gain of value.

My experience is my OPO is nearly double the N5 like-for-like use.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Our-...re-rattles-the-Sony-Xperia-Z2s-throne_id58162

8 hours vs 4hr 50 (have to compare the two link) which tallies with my experience.

The rumored Nexus 6 has to drive more pixels on a bigger display than OPO for the same size battery, so I'm guessing somewhere between N5 and OPO.

Whilst the N5 battery life was acceptable to me, I worked around it via QI charger which worked well for me, my 2 bikes makes electricity off front hub for long times away from power, and carry a slim 5000mah battery. I lost the QI capability with OPO which was no loss a really is a long battery life.

The Moto X 2014 unlocked is $549 vs Nexus 5 $349 for 32GB. So 57% higher costs, hardly attractive on price for similar specs to 10 months earlier.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
But why should Google Subsidise another new phone project alongside the Phablet? Especially as your N5 has L anyway and if you really want better specs and don't want the Phablet you could buy a Moto X.
[Nexus 6  General] rahulpat13:
Agreed. But the question was should Google really have a phablet as it's flagship device for developers and consumers alike!
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
The Nexus 6 should offer great battery life, even with the larger 2k screen.

3200mah (which is larger than both the One Plus & the G3)

And...

Using an 805 chipset, which Qualcomm state is 20% more battery efficient. :)

If true, that would make the N6 have a battery size 'equivalent' of around 3840mah on an 801 device. :D
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Perhaps they just don't want to have to meet the demand of selling that many devices. By making it larger, they can give the developers the specs they want and limiting the demographic that actually buys it making it easier for them to meet demand.
[Nexus 6  General] NicolasFranz:
If the leaked images are legit the nexus 6 is very ugly
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Google Nexus 6: Size Comparison - To Other Smartp…: http://youtu.be/-qzLDwLWqqs
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Looks is a perception and varies over time, minds change.

What doesn't change is real issues of price, e.g. Nexus 5 is $349 for 32GB, Moto X 2014 is $549 for 32GB, so we're interested in what will be price for 32GB N6. Battery life for high-end phones is a concern but hopefully real-life experience is good.

Storage: For late 2014, 32GB whilst sufficient for most, is tight, particularly for pbablet as significant % of those who like phablets are merging phone+tablet and want to merge storage so 16GB+SD or 32GB+SD or 64GB is more attractive. The Moto X 2014 has microSD and typical Nexus doesn't have. So if this is all true then many will find 32GB an issue, I don't see if the Nexus 6 is 32GB or greater. If I extrapolate from N5 I'd guess 32GB/64GB options and then the concern with the 64GB model price.

I put a 64GB MicroSD in my latest Gpad 8.3 tablet and have 64GB OnePlusOne.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
which samsung did he compare it to in the 1st comparison? That samsung looks to have a larger screen and we know the note has a 5.7 vs 5.9". Unless thats the MEGA :P
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Note 4 I think.

Almost identical screen sizes.

5.7 vs 5.9

N6 will have less screen to use due to on-screen buttons which Samsung don't use.
[Nexus 6  General] elbarto7:
I had note 2 and after a while it's still too big and heavy for me. Gave it to my nephew :)
[Nexus 6  General] svengalis:
i refuse to believe this is the nexus 6. if it is wtf.
[Nexus 6  General] lombardo8:
damn too big

I want a 5 inch screen phone in a Nexus 4 body size. I will definitely be giving this a big miss. My N5 is still awesome!
[Nexus 6  General] subhani:
I too don't believe the nexus will be that big. Google have always been very conservative with their hardware. It would be a huge shift in that approach in my opinion.

That means the rumors may be completely fake or they are speaking about maybe a moto XL
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
History has shown that leaks this close to the launch date are more right than wrong. Suck it up buttercups. ???
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Last year every leak of the Nexus 5 was wrong until the video by google came out. What history are you referring to?
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Of phones in general. Samsung apple lg, Motorola. These guys are getting too good at these leaks.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
This isn't any of those phones its a Google phone made by one of these companies.

Your terminology is wrong. And no one is getting good at leaks. There is always an inside person who gives these Android sites the info. You're so wrong on everything lol.
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
No they weren't. There were pics of it next to a ruler that leaked showing its size. There was also a video of one in a bar of since sort and there were leaked sketches of the design that were correct. I'm not sure if all these were before Google's video that leaked the nexus 5 thanking a pic of the kitkat statue but in pretty sure at least one of them was
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
Either way it's a leak. Accidental or intentional. You act as if there is only one kind of leak.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
They were all mockups from the FCC info that was available. None of them were an actual phone design or face. And the one that were spotted in the wild was a Motorola phone. The nexus 5 is an LG phone.

Everything was wrong until the Google video was out and that changed everything.
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
Oh i didn't know they were just mock ups they were really similar to the actual phone
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Every leak or imaged leaked is essentially a mock up of the only info that's available to all, which is the FCC docs.

If I recall correctly there was a Motorola phone that was leaked and everyone thought that would be the next nexus phone.

Then google leaked the image on a video, the first couple days of Oct. and everyone came out with renders, mock ups and eventually actual images of the phone running were leaked before the announcement. Its the same this time around. We seen mock ups and renders, we even have a few 'out in the wild' leaks, but ultimately Only google knows. And even if it is the 6inch Motorola X Nexus 6 (or whatever they call it now lol) it would follow the same trend as last year. More and more leaks as we get closer to the announce day.
[Nexus 6  General] anthonyg45157:
Super pumpes for this i went from Bionic(safestrap) to a galaxy nexus to a galaxy s4 (safestrap) Im so burned out on samsung and TW. I cant wait for this to drop and running aosp. If these rumors are true. Im hoping verizon has it. Rumors seems to point towards it will. And if not bye bye verizon. I dont even care if verizon makes for slows updates i wont mind doing the updating myself with the help of the xda community!
[Nexus 6  General] subcola:
I believe that motorola shamu is not nexus phone, nexus phones never follow manufactur's design and shamu is capled just nexus 6 becouse everyone expects 6inch screen, nexus 5 - 5 inch and everyone thinks nexus 6 - 6 inch but I don't think it will be 6 inch
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Its not like Google have never used the same design, Googles first ever phone was simply an HTC Dream.

Shamu is 100% a Nexus, its been seen in Googles own issue tracker & running a new Google built 3.10 kernel.
[Nexus 6  General] subhani:
Looks like you got educated sweet cheeks. Nobody REALLY knows. So falsely throwing around terms like 'history shows' and 'getting better at leaks' (WTH does that mean any way?) make your argument less credible.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
I'm just saying how many times have we all been disappointed by leaks, hoping that it's not the device only to turn out that it actually is. Leaks these days leave nothing to the imagination and have taken all the fun out of product launches.
[Nexus 6  General] subhani:
This I do agree. It's taken the anticipation fun out of the whole process of the 'unveiling'.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
We'll all know soon enough.

October 15th :)
[Nexus 6  General] subhani:
I almost don't wanna find out because I just shelled out for an xperia Z3. What an epic device it is. Just beautiful. Would make me jealous if the nexus was good. And I know the software on Nexus is unparalleled by anything available on Android.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
History suggests October 30th.

Used Nexus 5 aren't really dropping, mint condition selling >$300 still
[Nexus 6  General] ChazzMatt:
History actually suggests any time between Oct 31 and Jan 10. Never been earlier than Oct 31 (and that was last year)

January 2010, HTC Nexus One

December 2010, Samsung Galaxy S

December 2011, Samsung Galaxy Nexus

November 2012, LG Nexus 4

Oct 31/Nov 1 2013 (depending on what part of the world you live) LG Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] Hoezack:
Oct 16 is release date. Source T-Mobile employees.