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[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
1st. Verizon Nexus will never ever happen. So Verizon fanboys can stop the circle jerk.

2nd. I strongly believe the 'shamu' device is the Moto X but the phablet version. A Moto X plus per say.

3rd. Once again why would google break the routine of calling Nexus phones by shark names (Mako, Hammerhead)

The larger tablets all have large fish names (Manta ray, Grouper, Flo) and seeing how Shamu is a rather large Orca fish I believe that the mysterious Moto phone is some kind of phoblet or actual tablet.

4th. Why name it shamu and not Orca?

Just weird to me.
[Nexus 6  General] brianbrain:
The leaker claimed it's a Verizon device - not me. Having said that, I made it very clear that ARMv8 & 64-Bit is likely the very reason why we *won't* see a new Nexus phone this year - there are no suitable SOCs available for Android vendors (unless nVidia has some tricks up its sleeve).

JarRokk: Very good points & agree on the Verizon naming - probably not a DROID, but seeing as how this leak is with a Verizon phone, probably a launch exclusive to the carrier (unless more carrier variants leak within the next few days).
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
JayRokk: You forgot the Galaxy Nexus "Codename: Maguro" which was not based on a Shark either. Nexus series follows aquatic life and nothing more.

Also, Why call it Shamu and not Orca? Well why not call it Killer Whale? Its their decision to label it as so, hell they could have called it the "Minnow" just to be ironic about its size.

brianbrain: The last to suggest that was TKTN, I do not trust anything from that source.
[Nexus 6  General] wangdaning:
Thread is starting to smell like rotten fish.
[Nexus 6  General] goughymachine:
I'm currently hanging onto my s3 just to see what the next nexus exactly will be. If it's within cooee of 6", I will be getting a nexus 5. I don't want a phone that big, let alone one near to my n7 in screen size.
[Nexus 6  General] HUNTERANGEL121:
As long as the volume rocker, and sleep button are not on the same side of the device I'd be happy. I like current sleep on right and volume rocker on the left. And I never liked the look of the moto x. So a giant moto x wouldn't be my cup of tea. And I think Google would want their phone to look different than a moto x and have a giant Nexus logo on the back
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
Exactly. I don't mind the power and volume buttons but nexus devices havent ever really looked v like their base phones and they also say nexus on back. Maybe this phone that b leaked is just a normal motto phablet and not a nexus if the leaks had any credibility
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
Sorry to be repetitive, but can you guys give some insight on this:
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Why are you making decisions based on a phone that hasn't even been announced and may or may not even exist? Wait until Google reveals what they're planning to reveal then make a choice.
[Nexus 6  General] markusf21:
It's a year old phone that still works very well. Better today then on launch day. It's nowhere near eol. You can easily get 2 or 3 more years out of it. Even if Google drops support, the community would likely step up.
[Nexus 6  General] nictki:
+1
[Nexus 6  General] Red Wolf:
I just want to say if they make bigger than 5" screen I might not buy it. Nexus 5 size is perfect for a phone. We don't need phablet, just need a new nexus
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
+2

The Nexus 4 was also very popular, a year older, and still getting support and optimisations and working well for 2 years old.

I'd say if there is something fundamentally wrong with the N5 then avoid but if it ticks all your boxes, then it really comes down to price.

The issue I find the N5 is holding its price up. There is no pre-N6 price drop of any note. The used N5 prices are also holding up "mint" often selling for $330. So its the fact the one year old phone is not really that much less than when released is one reason to avoid buying N5 now. Chances are, the N6 will be "wow" to some proportion of the current N5 owners who then drive down N5 used prices, just hard obviously with no firm N6 specs to judge the proportion who like it.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
I haven't made a decision. If you pay close attention to my post, you'll notice that I said "if..". It's all theory.

You are right though, so thank you. I am going to wait for an official statement from Google. Although, you have to admit, articles like these are pretty exciting lol.

Thank you@everyone else for the feedback. Really appreciate it!
[Nexus 6  General] Notechis:
Near to 6 screen is a no go for me... We will see...
[Nexus 6  General] -A-P-M-:
I didnt bought Nexus because its a budget phone, but because it doesnt have bloatware, is smooth and it got instant updates. I would rather see it would cost as iPhone and would have great camera, speakers, premium quality etc.

I am really looking forward for next Nexus, but I am not buying phone with bigger screen than 5.2". So if I cant buy Android phone with max 5.2 screen, without bloatware and with instant updates, Im afraid I will have to look something else.
[Nexus 6  General] HUNTERANGEL121:
Maybe a one plus one would fit you. 5.5in though. It has some killer specs and a nice ID.
[Nexus 6  General] smokesignals:
Broski, the GSM Galaxy Nexus was codenamed "maguro", and the CDMA one was codenamed "toro". Both of which are Japanese names for types of tuna used in sushi. Or do you not consider those to be Nexus device because of the "Galaxy" part of the name?
[Nexus 6  General] reinert012:
What do I think about the Nexus 6?

Based on and rumors, too big and more than likely won't buy. Which is a shame because i was

so

looking forward to the 100% pure stock Android L. 6" is just too big, unfeasible really. If these leaks and rumors are true I will either go with a One+1 or get a Moto X 2014.

I am not very happy about this 6" display. Nowadays most leaked photos are accurate, i don't see why these wouldn't be any different. I hope i'm wrong!
[Nexus 6  General] Onismurai:
I have to admit that if the next Nexus is 6'' then I will not buy it, even I'm a huge fan of nexus line. Too big in my pocket (and I believe there are a lots agree with me). 5.2 as rumored before is really a magic number.
[Nexus 6  General] DrearierJester1:
If they will just make it available to all why not.
[Nexus 6  General] Xernoxis:
Just buy an invite on eBay.
[Nexus 6  General] bradputt:
This is just sad if the display is indeed 6 inches.

There's a reason why we are not buying a galaxy note
[Nexus 6  General] AndrasLOHF:
I'm totally not interested at all in the device if they turn the Nexus into a phablet. For everyday PHONE use the chassis on the Nexus 5 is pushing the limits in the size department. I'm all for a bigger screen but only if they can do it by reducing the bezel. The only size direction I think would help the device is if they made it slightly thicker, or even a more prominent rounded back to fit a larger battery. I don't see the point in making these devices thinner and thinner at the expense of battery life. Who gives two s$$ts if your phone is as thin as a stick of gum when you have to charge it every 12 hours or less under normal use.
[Nexus 6  General] VaggD:
Are we sure that Motorola shamu isn't a device for the carriers?
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
So many moaning myrtles in here!

Don't want a 5.9" Nexus?

....Then don't buy it.

Personally, I can't wait for it, its that time of the year again!

just take my money! :)
[Nexus 6  General] rollerdyke44:
You know what a nexus is all about. A 6" nexus would be too big. I feel the size of nex5 is PERFECT.

google would 'make us' not buy a nexus... Obviously we are pissed and we moan :P
[Nexus 6  General] ps000000:
The 5.9 incher is like HTC One Max. (even 5.5 incher is not for everyone)

But it is not a problem for me, I have used Galaxy Mega & Z Ultra before. :silly:
[Nexus 6  General] HUNTERANGEL121:
I don't understand why the race for larger displays has gone up to 6in.

I used a Note 3 once, 5.7in display was a bit too large. 5.5in max. Does anyone know what the rumored N5 pictures looked like before release? I figure that Google is pretty tight about leaks, and maybe the current leaks are wrong.
[Nexus 6  General] chrootz:
Let's stop jumping gun over the Google Nexus 6 display size and what if they offers 2 different size like iPhone 6 and 6 plus similar. I mean who knows!

:P
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Sorry to use the A-Bomb but...

Apple users are loving the 6+ & they've had a jump from 4" straight up to 5.5"

If the latest leak is indeed the Nexus, it looks identical size to the 6+ but with a bigger screen & much better specs.

I can't wait for the 5.9" Nexus, its gonna be outstanding!
[Nexus 6  General] Gorgenapper:
5.9" screen

AMOLED instead of LCD

Made by Motorola

Yeah, probably not going to get it if the rumors are true, although I've been known to change my mind. My Samsung Galaxy S4 Active is still good and quite fast enough for what I require out of it, the only downside is that it is an i537 (AT&T), I'm in Canada so I don't get any OTA updates from AT&T (obviously), and the bootloader is still locked thus I'm stuck on Jellybean forever. This is not a terribly bad thing, but I've always liked using the latest and greatest.
[Nexus 6  General] C3C076:
No problem with size of iPhone 6+. People can simply fold it if needed :D
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
Love all the haters stating they aren't going to get one as if Google gives a crap about you guys.

Not like they are gonna change their specs just cause you guys threaten not to buy!

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
LOL...good one!

I'll be getting the Nexus6 no matter what the screen size. If it doesn't work out for me, then I'll sell it later.

We'll see how many that don't want it now, hit the f5 key repeatedly and buy it on Launch day... :D
[Nexus 6  General] HUNTERANGEL121:
I really love the ID whenever LG made the phones... Nexus 4 was sexy to me, and the Nexus 5 is straight up sexy/plain. I love it.
[Nexus 6  General] Chris Hansen:
That's a great approach... or not. Usually OEMs have people that read forums and the public's reaction to leaks. That's become somewhat the point of intentional leaks. That's great that you're excited for it, but if you were the only one (not saying you are), then that wouldn't be so great for sales, would it? Not only that, but this thread was created for the specific intent of asking people their opinions.

I'm not excited for a 6" phone, I owned an OPPO Find 7a for a month, and it was way too big. There are times where I need a free hand, and with that big of a device, I was worried I would drop it, and ended up with my hand cramping. I sold it and got a Nexus 5. I enjoyed my LG G2, but that was probably the biggest I would go. Bigger is not necessarily better, and if they don't offer a smaller option, then that leaves the consumer with no choice in terms of upgrading. I don't want a bigger phone, but I do want a faster, smarter, better phone. If the manufacturer doesn't give us that option, then they won't be able to take my money.
[Nexus 6  General] Neuromansa:
Let's just face the truth. If Google really comes out with a single model like the one in that picture, it will objectively be a STUPID choice. That frying pan is simply not a PHONE.

I still believe that's not the Nexus 6/X. It's just the Moto S with a 'Shamu' sticker on it.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
LOL

These same arguments against it happened last year.

people are now happy with a 5" phone, yet on this very forum 12months ago, the same angry comments of a larger phone were flooding these comments.

People need to move with the times.

... Its not like there aren't other options out there to fill your needs if this one isn't for you.

But for every person saying they won't buy it, I'm sure there is someone who can't wait to.

This phone will keep many current Nexus users, it will convert some Note users to stock Google, some OnePlus users & maybe even some iPhone 6+ users.

& in 12 months time, people will not be wanting the next one to be less than 5.9"
[Nexus 6  General] tonyreimer:
Oh ya. So in 10 years we'll be walking around with 24" screens?

This madness has to stop somewhere.
[Nexus 6  General] jasonleb1:
I used a Lumia 1520 and loved it so the 6 inch screen is all good by me.
[Nexus 6  General] Rox598:
Nah by that time phones will be completely on our wrists
[Nexus 6  General] Soupskin:
I suspect the larger screen is expected to spend more time in your pocket with notifications being addressed via the Android Wear device on your wrist. Then for those times you need to see a larger, full screen app you'll have it at the ready.
[Nexus 6  General] elav:
5.9" ? No thanks.. I keep my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] Chris Hansen:
Move with the times? That's hilarious. I'm an avid techie and have been for decades (I work in IT, after all). I've got a Moto 360 on my wrist, am contemplating purchasing an X2 (depending on the N6's specs), have owned a plethora of gadgets and tech over the years, and often have the latest and greatest, including devices that I build.

I had the 5.2" G2 shortly after the original Moto X was released. Mine had a bigger screen and I had no gripes about it. But I went to a 5.5" screen, and it was unusable one-handed. I enjoyed the phone otherwise, but I sold it because it was impractical, not because I'm 'not with the times'. I messed with a Note 3 for a bit, and it works as more of a tablet than a phone, but it comes with a stylus that makes it a bit more practical to use, but I still wouldn't like that for my phone.

My hand isn't getting any bigger, so you can ask me next year, the year after, and the year after that, and so on. When I use my phone, I want to be able to have one hand free. I try to read the news when I walk my dog, or read a recipe while cooking dinner. I want my hand to be comfortable while talking on the phone. As stated, I have experience in the 5"+ category, so I know what I'm talking about. You, on the other hand, are just making trollish comments. You seem to be the one offended by people voicing their opinions, I see no other 'angry comments' as you describe them. If you want bigger, then good for you. But for those of us that don't, don't insult us because you think you know what's best for everyone.

I want bleeding edge technology, I always have. But I don't want something that I'm not going to use or enjoy using. I'm contemplating getting the X2, but I don't know if it's really worth it when it's not much different than my N5. You're right though, I will have options. But I won't have the options that I would prefer. I like running AOSP. I like having a large dev base. I like having ROM options and compatibility like crazy. I like the idea of having GPE phones, because that's the only way I will have that opportunity in the future.

But even then, my options will start dwindling if everyone starts pushing their devices bigger and bigger because it's what other OEMs are doing. Damn what the consumer wants, though, right?

Look at the iPhone 6 vs. the 6 Plus, the former is outselling the latter stateside as well as globally (as much as 5 to 1 in places like Japan, even though they were touted to be more excited about the bigger screen beforehand). And the 5.5" screen is nothing new, look at the OnePlus One, the Oppo Find 7, the Note, the Optimus G Pro, G3, etc.

I doubt it will convert many OPO, OPPO, or i6+ users. Their devices are too comparable to make the switch. Maybe a few here and there that, like me, like trying new devices, but I doubt people will migrate in droves since they already got what they want.

Shaq might like having a phone that actually fits his hand, but for me, I'll be sticking with devices I can actually use. Enjoy your larger phone if that's what it comes out to be, but I for sure, won't be buying it if that's the case.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I'll do a swap for my OnePlus 64GB for a mint condition Nexus 5 32GB, just give me $100.

Hey, I'm being generous.

---------- Post added at 11:41 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:35 AM ----------

+1

My current thinking for my spectrum:

Android Wear, my go-to to see if that bleep is worthy of now attention.

One-handed use then goes to my no-bigger-than-5" screen as it takes one hand, and fits in my pocket, so I can still use my other hand.

If its worthy of more screen then my 16:10 tablet. I just did the maths on my Gpad 8.3 it is giving me 8.08" diagonal on 16:9 videos vs HTC Nexus 9 giving me 8.35" diagonal i.e 3.4% 0.28" more screen for a lot bigger and impossible to operate other than sat down as too wide to hold one handed

at home its a bigger tablet / or Chromecast, heck that $15 shipped Chromecast I got yesterday

My Windoze device is Ethernet wired to my home router running remote-desktop I access from my devices. So I'm only walking around with Android.

---------- Post added at 11:48 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:41 AM ----------

I think we're hitting a couple of limits and the need to change focus and direction

- 1080p there is no need for any higher, eyes can't really spot it on a 5" screen and in a phone any higher is just worsening battery, so let's just leave screens at 1080p

- 5" any bigger and 90% of humans can't operate one-handed, which for an always-usable-by-one-hand device is the most important thing

Hence the phones need to focus differently now, not on screen sizes but:

- battery life. I remember before smartphones became popular 3-7 days non-smartphone battery life. Let's get back to that please

- lowering the cost of the phone. OnePlusOne shows what can be done, more the same in term of cost, but a bit more local better supported than from China please.

- global phones, all LTE bands, possibly dual-SIM. I'm a UK/Europe traveler and I'm in my aircraft seat swapping SIMs.

So a $200 phone with 64GB storage, one week battery life 5" 1080 16:9 screen. That's what is needed next. I think Android One is more in line with the future than the iphone 6+
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
This is absolute truth. Hell, I remember when people were complaining that the Nexus 4 was "too large" for people, and the following year the same about the Nexus 5 as well. Yet here we are at the same cycle claiming the same BS.

Before you start whining, why not give it a try for a little while? Try to get used to it just as the others have with previous Nexus devices and ended up loving them. I have not seen a cycle so repeated by users since bloody Apple patented it.

Seriously the lot of you stop making this thread about whining about screen size and actually talk about the damn device. Go cry in a corner or on reddit if you want to continuously complain about it. I just wish we had a mod in here prune all of the existing cryspam.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
The mod would have to prune the attacks o. Those people as well like you claiming that those need to stop crying right? Like the other user stated. The screen size increase has to come to a limit. I've tried the m8 from the nexus 5 and it was too tall. I saw the g3 in the store and my wife has a note 2 which are just way too big for me. I'll be sticking to my nexus 5. And there's no crying here just stating what works for me. If google makes a large nexus I do hope they make a smaller version as well just seeing the divide on this topic.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Utter BS

When I was on Nexus 4, I thought it a perfect size, and concerned the N5 was too big, then I got some performance and capacity issues so got the N5, I adapted.

When on N5, we needed to buy as a family another fast large-capacity phone, the cheapest was OnePlusOne. Again, I was really concerned it would be too big, but given I adapted to the N5 from the N4, I bought it.

Guess what, 5.5" is too big. Fact. I've hit the limit of my thumb length and I'm having to balance the phone on ends of fingers and I'm sure it will fall soon.

These issues above 5" size are pure 100% facts and apply to 90% of our species!

It is not that we need to adapt to bigger phones. The current macho heads wanting bigger and bigger just need to run their course. There are more important issues for phones to address in their current maximum useful (for 90% of humans) size of 5".

There is a market for bigger phones, but their niche for bigger-handed or those who don't do anything with their other hand, those who own multiple phones, etc, etc. But it is niche. Mainstream stops at 5", set by our genome!
[Nexus 6  General] dwang:
nexus 6 seems to be about the same size *(slightly shorter but slightly wider) as the iPhone 6+ except with a 5.9 inch screen.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
At first you sounded sane, but when you got to this part you started to jump right off the rails into insanity.

There is no absolute facts that state your OPINION viable. The FACT is that Phablets have made it popular enough that in recent years phone makers have been increasing screen size on basic models while making Phablets bigger. That is because they SELL and if they continue to SELL then that means the large end market APPROVES of this regardless of what you think.

Until Large phones stop selling and the Sony Z3C becomes the most sold device of 2015, your stating only opinions. Not marketable FACTS. This is not about some crazy species/genetics BS, its about what sells in the market and what is liked within the market. Your opinion just happens to be the minority and will continue to be as such until compact smart phones outsell the large smartphones. Only then will opinions become facts.

Large phones are not a niche, man. They are the majority.
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Find me hard facts that show phablets are a majority. Not percentages but raw data.
[Nexus 6  General] svengalis:
6 inches is a mini brick in the pocket. Looks like I will be staying with the nexus 5. The only reason I upgraded from the nexus 4 was because I didn't like the glass back. 4.7 inches is the perfect size for a smart phone.
[Nexus 6  General] Dr Faustus:
Lets put it this way, It proved the late Steve Jobs/Apple wrong that they would not sell/make a priority.

Now we have the i6+ after they realized that they were missing out on an entire market they thought was also niche. Otherwise they would have never bothered to put the resources together to push out a competitor for a "niche market that does not matter".
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
google knows what best for us and if google say 5.9 inch is the best size i will buy it.

i have the galaxy s3 and i am freakin suffering from the tiny display it has, 5.9 would be nice but i dont care even if it will be 5.2 or 5.5.
[Nexus 6  General] gregorvu:
Nexus 6 inches is much too big for me

I realy hope this roumors is not true

or maybe there will be 2 nexus, one amaller and one biger model...
[Nexus 6  General] monkeypaws:
Quick google search and research and apple has not published hard data on sales between the two devices. Its clear apple is testing the waters with both options. Otherwise they would have released one big device and left it at that if there was such a demand over one.
[Nexus 6  General] Gorgenapper:
I have used an iPhone 6 and 6+ at a local Apple store, and the single greatest feature to facilitate one-handed use of a larger phone is the double-light-tap of the capacitive home button to bring the entire screen halfway down. I'm no Apple fan, but this feature NEEDS to be implemented in Android, stat. If they can do this and have it work for *everything* in Android L, including all apps etc, then even a 5.9" Nexus 6 can be useable in one hand. Check out the youtube video linked below.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oEnp2zsVm2U
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
That word "Shamu" on the stick looks faked on electronic image edit to me.

What you think of this analysis

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...nexus-phone-or-it-might-not-be-we-arent-sure/

It seems well thought out to me that this is a real phone but not the next Google Nexus which matches to me that fake looking "Shamu".