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[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Yep that front lol makes it ugly it does not look uniform. Looks like the back is longer than the front. Has the same curve as the razor m.

Plus it will have Verizon and Motorola bloat and locked bootloader.

It matters because I'm month to month now on Verizon. If I upgrade I loose unlimited data. If I get the nexus from Google store I will leave Verizon for the metro pcs $60 unlimited plan since their coverage is good where I live and work.

The Verizon model won't have the proper bands for LTE on AT&T or tmobile. Moto will be releasing a turbo version for gsm carriers in a while. Verizon currently is cdma but all their devices are SIM unlocked so you can use them on gsm carriers overseas you just don't get lte here locally, only edge or 3g depending on the bands it supports.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
For those who complaint about the price, how much do you think it should have been? Just curious.
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
I think this price is fair for the specs but I still wish it could've been 500 dollars. Then I still might've gotten it. But at this price I'll probably get a z3 compact for 460 (student discount) or if the z3 full version has a student discount. Either way I'm waiting for both to release before final decision

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Nexus 6  General] setspeed:
I never heard anyone complain about the screen size of the N5. Not anyone. It didn't need 'fixing'.
[Nexus 6  General] Bataga:
Nexus 6: http://youtu.be/ffbVw1BrUDk
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Does it really matter? Its still cheaper than similar phones. Who cares?
[Nexus 6  General] setspeed:
There ain't no custom ROMs for the Moto X 2014, the dev forum is pretty much a ghost town!

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ARE the speakers on the N6 actual stereo? Serious question. All I've seen advertised is 'dual front facing'.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
True, not sure they are stereo. Dual front speakers they are for sure.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
I just saw another reason its more expensive. Television advertising on Thursday night football. A top of the line product cheaper than anything else, on ALL carriers, with the bottom end of top tier pricing. They are going to push the crap out of it to cut into other phones markets. If I hear someone whine about price again, I may just hurl.
[Nexus 6  General] GaSpartacus:
ok, if now they are betting more on marketing and advertising the price tag makes more sense
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I could just stay in Verizon and get that version of nexus 6 because I do get a 19% company discount on devices and accessories ...or it may just be accessories. But I don't know if we can pre order for any carrier on the 29th or if it's just the unlocked Google store models allowing preorders.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
I think that was the idea the whole time. The note series is a big seller. The iPhone 6plus is a big seller. What's the other PREMIUM phablet? There isn't one that I know of. I'd bet it outsells nexus 5 easily.

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Best I can find, 3 to 5 million nexus 5 phones have been sold since release. Note 3 sold 10 million first to months and is to believe to be over 50 million now. Between note 4 and iPhone 6plus, its a HUGE market to get into.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The person who pays for it cares, so the money is locked away from being used elsewhere cares.

The comment of "can't afford" is not valid. I just think spend should be proportionate to gain. Many on Nexus 5 as great phone for price and its weaknesses can be worked around. Everyone who pays these high prices for N6, iphone, Samsung, etc are just paying for large salaries, marketing, and basically being indoctrinated and getting about $300 worth of tech for $700 spend.

The fact N6 is slightly lessly grossly marked up than other devices does not negate the huge markup as a factual legitimate observation.

OPO proved that high specs can come around $350-$400 mark .

I also don't appreciate the confirmation bias going on here, those who have decided to get the phone, then selecting a subset of reality to affirm their view and calling those with eyes wide open as complaining. It is over-priced relative to N5 is a fact and a very pertinent fact in a N5 forum with a thread of "what do you think".

All those who love the N6 can do a love-in thread and unsubscribe from this "what do you think" thread. XDA has created N6 forums now. Ensure in those other love-in N6 threads you ask and share about cases and screen protectors because relative to the N5, you'll be dropping it considerably more often.

Fortunately the N5 is a great phone still and getting Lollipop next month will extend its useful life. That is the best bit of recent news.

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Yep. I spent 2 months trying to get people to want an OPO and all liked N5 and thought OPO too big. N6 will be even more too big.

It will sell though, just not as many as N5, those with basic maths skills know they're being screwed.

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I expect OnePlusOne to have better battery like than N6, once like-for-like optimisations are done which should be by January. They have the same 28nm basic architecture but the N6 has to drive more light and more pixels.

Not til 20nm tech in 810 for tablets then 808 for phones will even more battery efficiency happen when that is out the $650 N6 will begin to look sick, which is less than 6 months off now. A $350 phone looking old is less of a $ problem.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
And the opo has near zero customer service and many people complain of screen issues and have trouble dealing with it. I myself work in a fast paced industry and need something I know will be reliable. If you want a cheap phone, have at it. I can't take the chance. I don't know where exactly the nexus was built an assembled, but I do on the opo and iPhone. Opo is cheap because, well, its cheap. Want to complain about mark ups, go to an iPhone thread. Those people get screwed.
[Nexus 6  General] nexus6R3plicant:
The opo can't really compete they can only make so many at a time because they Don't have the money .so they do The invite junk.... The one that could compete is the mi phone . but we won't see that here for a while . I Will get a nexus 6 because i was going to get a note 4 to replace my note 3 and g3 but aosp Roms always had many problems on note 3.... And nexus is still much cheaper than note 4... Its always good to have competition to try and keep prices down .

Sent from my LGLS990
[Nexus 6  General] abdel12345:
Other good news is we're getting android L on our nexus 10's too:D I was worries at first but it's been confirmed that it'll be getting it as soon as it's out along with the other nexus devices getting it. I think the date it starts rolling out was states as November 3rd

Sent from my LG-VS980
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The OPO relative to N5 showed starkly you get what you paid for. In my immediate circle in real life (not forums) none of us have had any OPO issues. Mine over 2 months had nil issues. Neither has my son. My neighbor had some issues traced back to some apps and the ROM which customer service cleared up in 3 days. No RMA.

If you go into OPO forums and basically count people by positive vs negative, as I have done, about 8% have some issue of which half are legitimate, its just that if you also count posts, those who complain create 5x the amount of negative complaining posts and those who are happy, the net effect (if you do the maths) is about equal complaints to positive posts.

Basically, a small problem is talked about more and the happy ones aren't really in the forums.

I'd say the OPO % problems are fair given the price, but the % criticism is unfairly high.

The OPO gave a much faster cpu, more memory, double the storage (which is about 2.1x the relative useful storage after apps) for $50 less than N5 , but for us in California due to Google charging tax, it is $100 difference.

We're keeping an old N4 as our in-draw spare if any phone goes, which apparently is getting Android L to keep it going. Thanks Google!

I'm unsubscribing from this thread now as the N6 is released, its an overpriced too big phone and those are facts so no point repeating any more to those who will buy anything just because its Nexus.

Bye.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I honestly think if my opo didn't have a yellow screen i would have kept it. The customer service sucks and they downplay a lot of issues. I'd rather have something that's known to get fixed if something goes wrong.

Actually any flagship is overpriced by this standard. It's not just people who are buying a nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] eAsyy:
Can i use a droid turbo on europe? Sorry offtopic?
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Not yet. You would get voice and probably edge or 3g. They will release a gsm turbo later.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Its a phablet! They are bigger than smart phones...
[Nexus 6  General] eAsyy:
I had my time with the note 3. The main difference is that the note series has their purpouse with the s pen and nice features. Other gimmick yeah.. But overall is a work/game/normal usage. Is a great combo. This **** is just has beast specs in a beast size. Nothing more.
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
There is no tricks, if course you pay full price but doing so lowers your monthly bill. Contracts are tricks as they fool you into thinking your $700 is only $200. T mobile is up front. Pay the down payment+taxes and make monthly installments. When phone is paid off you get cheaper bill.

Jump is nothing but a leasing program, they want you to keep paying the extra $10 for the phone for life. No real catch you get to upgrade every 6 months with out hassel of trying to resell etc. Not my cup of tea but it's an option for sure.

And of course google wants profits! Name one company who doesn't! The N6 is far superior to oppo or any other generic Chinese OEM. Even they want profits they just have sub par support and an over all subpar product
[Nexus 6  General] dazed1:
Please, if someone know the price in eu, at least pm me :(
[Nexus 6  General] mwedo:
So far it's €749 for 32 GB model in German shop.

www.notebooksbilliger.de/motorola+nexus+6+32gb+blau?nbb=45c48c

Sent from my LG-D802
[Nexus 6  General] eAsyy:
Leaks say 569€ 32gb / 649€ 64gb.
[Nexus 6  General] Langduscher:
Just. Wow. That's $ 961

A definite NO

€ 569 and I might think about it (still $ 723)
[Nexus 6  General] Renosh:
You're the most vocal person in this thread even though you're not getting the phone. I'm sorry Google didn't meet your expectations. You've been whining statistics and theories, its so sad to see they were worthless. Reality is a bitter pill to swallow.

If I can get some cash rounded up I'll buy the N6 personally, otherwise a OPO will be my next purchase. I don't mind the size, just the price is a little tricky but I love how it looks and can't wait for some reviews. Only way I'll see the N6 is after I've bought it via family in US and shipped it so I'll wait for some feedback whether its performance, build quality and camera are top notch
[Nexus 6  General] balb0wa73:
No price has been announced yet, until the price is on the google play store i wont believe anything, i dont trust any leaks

A few weeks ago the nvidia gtx970 was meant to be priced a lot higher than it was.
[Nexus 6  General] assasin34:
is there any option for humans?it is 5,96inches.what the hell???!!!
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Yes, its called the nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
I know... Like why couldn't they have just made it a nice simple flat 6 inches? I guess we can just hope for that slight increase for next year
[Nexus 6  General] assasin34:
nexus5 was 4,95inches if i don't slip up.it would be better that 5,5inches for anyone who wants to get a nexus device.it is fail.
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
All kinds of phones, for all kinds of folks.

You don't have to buy the Nexus 6 if its too expensive or too large for you.

There are many other options. :)

Maybe this phone isn't for you, it doesn't mean its a bad phone, or that Google made a mistake.

I can't wait for it, it ticks all my boxes.
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
It isnt a fail though is it? I want to get a nexus device,I want it to have a 6" screen. its perfect.

It doesn't meet your specification is all. There are other smaller phones you can buy. Alternatively,keep moaning about this one being too big for you, thats sure to shrink it
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
coming from a Samsung phone, the only thing I wish to have different was replaceable battery, but that's not happening being a nexus

I don't care about the size, since I don't wear hipster skinny jeans, and the price is fair for a premium flagship

bring it on
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Check out the lumia 1520. The nexus 6 will be a bit shorter than the lumia and a little less wide. It's fine for what it is, as for the price not sure why it costs so much labeled as a nexus but its cheaper than most other flagships. I can't wait to preorder it after next week.
[Nexus 6  General] Wbroshea:
Depends. Define fail. Sells less than Note 4? Sells less than Nexus 5? Makes money? or works for you? If it is the last one then it is a fail already, for assasin34.

Discussing how the phone doesn't work for a certain individual is more likely to "shrink" the next one than not talking about it. So really you want this thread to be titled "Google Nexus 6 - What do you think as long as you agree with dannstarr's opinion"
[Nexus 6  General] Jayrod1980:
My biggest gripe is that they still have to have two models for the LTE bands. I'm currently stuck at a point in my career where I spend a lot of time overseas. I need a phone that has lots of bands that work. Unfortunately it seems the Americas version only has the bands in use in the Americas (duh!) while the international has Europe and Asia covered. This basically means that if you roam... its on HSPA only. A lot of places in Asia have already refarmed their 2G into 3G HSPA etc but it seems to be very bandwidth constrained from what I've experienced compared to LTE.

I was hoping that you could just change the firmware, hack, or flash a different radio to get or swap bands on the Nexus 6, but since the 5 didn't have that ability I doubt this one will as well. I am currently using my first Apple phone ever.... a big brick 6 Plus and it's awesome for travel, but so boring. I love the camera and battery life, but I miss android. I've had almost every Nexus both phone and tablet, and I also have owned both Moto X's as well. I love the Nexus 6 design, but I really wish they would have been able to do what apple did, and just load up every band they could fit. I know they have two versions of that as well, but hardware wise, the only difference is that the sprint/japan/china model has 3 TDD LTE bands. Most of Europe and Asia don't use those 3, but every other major band seems to be covered.

I'm stuck out of the states for a year, and I want to buy the Nexus 6, but if I'm going to keep it awhile, it seems like I'm stuck buying a model that I can't get LTE use of when I go back to the states, or vice versa.

One more thing... no spec sheets indicate a notifcation light. I hope that means some sort of Active Display implementation in Lolipop. Motorola's tweaks have been a pure joy. I even sold my Nexus 5 for a Moto X 8 months ago I liked it so much. The short time I had with the new Moto X was even a better implementation of their tweaks. I really hope the 6 has some version of this feature baked into the OS, or that we can download those apps in the Play Store.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
Considering how the phablet market is growing. I think this phone will be the best selling nexus yet. Last night even had an android commercial on NFL Thursday night football. Featured the watch and nexus devices. How many nexus phones have been in commercials the last 3 years? They are going to push this phone. It will be the best selling nexus. A couple of commercials here.

http://googleblog.blogspot.com/2014/10/android-be-together-not-same.html?m=1
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
While I like the suggested name change for the thread, thats not the point of my posts.

My point is, yes im excited for this phone, yes I'll be buying one, and yes i hope it lives up to the spec sheet. I personally have been waiting for a phone like this since I can remember, but I have always had to put up with smaller devices, or, get a larger device with med range specs.

This one, finally seems like a device for me without compromises, and yes im happy with that.

It puzzles me as to why so many people come to the dedicated forum of a device known to sport a 5.96" screen to moan that it is too big. Surely your time would be better spent in a forum dedicated to a phone with a screen size you do approve of?

There are no other phones like this out there for people like me. There are plenty out there for people who want a smaller screen
[Nexus 6  General] Wbroshea:
A quick google search (ironic huh) found commercials for the Nexus 5, Nexus 4, Galaxy Nexus, and Nexus 7. Those were the only ones I checked, but all found commercials. Only one mentioned that is was aired during the Grammy's. Not sure when the others were aired. But I remembered a few, but who knows where I originally saw them.

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You still didn't define fail. Plus telling me to go away completely ignores the fact that talking about it can change things in the future. It has value.

Also you misjudge. I like the screen size, I don't like the price. I also don't like telling people to go elsewhere when the title of the thread is "what do you think" when there opinion doesn't equal your own. Please define fail.
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
Firstly, it was not me who suggested something was a fail. I disagreed that a product was a fail based on the fact that someone thought it was too big.

Regardless, I shall attempt defining fail to defend my position on why this is not a fail. To me, a fail is when something does not meet it's creators intended outcome. That's it. no more, no less.

None of us know Google or Motorola's intended outcome, so are not qualified to say it wasn't met.

Looking at what we know so far, it seems that they intended to build a beast of a phablet. It seems that they want to push the boundaries of portable device size, and it seems that they want to supply their new software on a truly premium device.

While the market for large devices is growing, google don't build a phone of this size thinking that the whole world will jump on it and that it will be the best selling device ever made... But there is a market for it,and that market is rapidly expanding.... And love it or hate it,its now the most ridiculously big phone there is, that alone will drive internet searches, traffic, and advertising revenue... All positives for google

They did not,do not,and will not fail, just because it wasn't 5.2" like most people said they wanted.

I'm not over the moon with the price either. But guess what?there are cheaper phones available.... Now,I challenge you to find a better specced phone for less
[Nexus 6  General] chrootz:
Stop complain, Find some phone that you like and stay there :D and I will buy Nexus 6 anyways. My wife has small hands and she is doing fine with her Note 3. :)
[Nexus 6  General] mk92595:
Will Amazon carry it if I decide on getting one?

Not paying tax and shipping only costing $4 would increase the chance of me getting this phone from 50% to 70%.
[Nexus 6  General] VOLTAGEROCK:
I understand what a few of you are saying in the above posts, but in a proper business model, profit is the intention. I feel this will fail profit expectations. It's an awesome device no doubt, just too big for me. I'm just disappointed because Nexus had been my life for quite some time now, and I know I will not be getting this phone no matter what. IMHO

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 6  General] Stigga:
When do you think we will see hands on videos from bloggers?
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
I'm not 100% on this,but have google made profit on the sale of any nexus device that came before it? I don't think so.

Google aren't here to sell handsets,they sell advertising, and deliver search results. They also know what billions of people across the world search out information on day after day ;)
[Nexus 6  General] dr.m0x:
Compared to the OnePlus One, the new Nexus is a lot more money for not much more phone. $350 for a 64gb OPO, $700 for a 64gb N6. Now don't get me wrong, the Nexus is a fine device but the OnePlus will smash it if it ever before more widely available.

Mmm bacon
[Nexus 6  General] dannstarr:
One plus one is very nice for sure,and at that price, everyone should own one... As a keeper though,its not an option for me. touch screen issues, as well as noticeably poorer reception than on most other devices meant that I couldn't have it as my main phone, which hurts, because other than that it was great
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
One thing worth noting is the high build quality of Motorola phones. Every Moto I have owned since the OG Droid have been very reliable and felt like high quality.

One big complaint I have with my Nexus 5 is it just feels cheap. The vibration motor rattles funny when there is no case on it. The USB port is also not lined up perfectly, and can be annoying at times. These are little things, but you notice them over time.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I had the one plus one. Had the yellow band that was really bad. Wouldn't go away. Pinch and zoom issues and touchscreen problems. Their Cs is crap...took 1 month just to get a link for an rma form. Their email responses are canned and useless.
[Nexus 6  General] mwedo:
And everyone would if getting one (no pun intented) is not such a hassle.
[Nexus 6  General] ECrispy:
I can buy a phone on contract for $0-200, vs buying it on JUMP etc and paying the full price (600-800) in monthly installments. The plan cost is same.

Of course these programs are a scam. You can just buy on contract, pay ETF if you want to get out early.
[Nexus 6  General] dr.m0x:
There are also a lot of satisfied OPO owners out there why do not have touch screen or yellow banding issues, me included. I will agree that they need to improve on a few things before they are ready for mainstream though. Production capacity and start sales service being the main problems.

Mmm bacon
[Nexus 6  General] VOLTAGEROCK:
You do have a point there. Maybe it will even out. Less buyers for the n6's will possibly be the profit level that the other nexus devices had due to much more purchases.

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
If they fix the screen issues I would buy one along with the nexus 6 and keep the opo as a backup. But that yellow band was bad..any article I would read on the phone I could see two different colors. Their CS definitely needs improvement.
[Nexus 6  General] Wbroshea:
Thank you for defining fail. I agree no one is qualified to say it has failed under that definition, of course the counter is that means no one is qualified to say it hasn't failed, that it has succeeded, or that it won't fail. Under your definition then the response to someone claiming the device failed is "you can't know that" rather than "but it hasn't failed now has it." All the extra stuff about justifying the phone size and stuff has nothing to do with our conversation so I assume that was meant for someone else.

Why would I want to find a better speeced phone for less. All I have ever wanted was a phone that meets me needs at a certain price point. If I can exceed those needs and stay relatively competitive with the price, I will do so, but otherwise no. However, this is a completely different issue. Our whole discussion revolved around you saying the phone was not a fail with out defining fail and then told others to stop discussing aspects which they don't like and to go somewhere else. That's what I took issue with.