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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vijaysivakula:
Questions being asked repeatedly.

These questions are being asked repeatedly and I have asked the same question myself. This situation is not a simple ROM / Kernel flashing that happens with other ROMs and Kernels. This is a complicated situation. What I dont understand is why are these special instructions not a part of the OP that you guys so proudly claim to answer all the questions? You answer these questions a dozen times but dont bother to keep the instructions in the OP just so that this situation doesnt arise? Do you feel some kind of perverted pleasure or power by making comments like this all the time while laughing and sounding irritated at others' ignorance? Why dont kernels have a list of compatible ROMs in the OP itself? Or why dont ROMs have a list of compatible kernels in their OPs? That would solve have the problems and reduce half the posts in all these threads.
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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] trjlive:
Just to put this into perspective, I highly doubt you will find a kernel dev who is willing to spend the time to monitor every single ROM's change logs and then test the kernel every time a ROM updates. Likewise, I doubt you'll find a ROM developer who's willing to test every available kernel with his ROM after every update. There are too many ROMs and kernels for that to be practical, especially when developing these are not full-time paid jobs. These are hobby developments, provided to the public on a developer's website.

And that being said, the compatibility is very clearly listed, this kernel is designed for AOSP ROMs, and there are special steps for CAF ROMs. It is up to the user to do the research on which ROM they are using, and then determine what kernels they should try. This site is not designed to cater to the basic-level user, it is to cater to the developers, and users are able to use the site, but they will have to learn about their devices, ROMs, kernels, etc.

So the only list that needs to be maintained is AOSP and CAF. You need to do determine what your ROM is, and then do the research about which kernel you want to use. There are threads on xda that explain what these terms are, and the differences, if they are confusing. And users are more than welcome to post in the Q&A or General forums for more basic conversations, but in a development forum, conversations should be at a high development level. That's why these forums are designated for developers, not the general users.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] haasgo:
Very well spoken! There is nothing to add to this statement! :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ironjon:
I will add a word: Amen! :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Gallardo994:
Allah Akbar!

Religion fight starts in 3, 2, ...

Sent from Nexus 5 using garbage^W Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ironjon:
Nah, there are a lot of fights in the world, not needed another one :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dhalham:
I've been reading but I still don't quite understand frandom, is it supposed to improve battery or performance?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mj084:
performance...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dhalham:
I'm also not quite sure how to install it.

Am I supposed to flash the frandom zip in the op and then flash cross breeder, or does the zip in the op do everything for u?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Faaipke:
Flash kernel first, then frandom zip... At least that s how I ve read it several times before
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dhalham:
Ok but what does it do?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] androidfreak007:
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTAzOTU
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dhalham:
That's fiops? I'm talking about frandom
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] tcat007:
5.1 hrs SOT at 8% left, with a 7 hr. battery life, very happy. I normally do not use the phone so intensely, but I was trying to drain it as fast as I could. Latest build w/o frandom. I don't see any extra smoothness or speed with frandom (did not try it on this build because I can't see things getting any better). Will be using 286 until I upgrade to a new phone, which may be never.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bigknowz:
Battery

This Xposed module might be worth checking out for additional battery. Plan to test myself later in the week.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
That's a very good concept especially for those who use google now continuously. But unfortunately, people running ART can't use it :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chrizer4:
Well, Purity+ and code blue 286 is sure a great pair..

Thanks for your work, Dev!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ralpheboyo:
.....serious issue with battery not draining....what the hell....
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] -DroidIsDNA-:
I'm using that xposed module and it is GREAT, even after an hour or two
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
hotplug

Hey guys!

I am almost finished with the hotplug, rewrite most of the driver... lot's of time coding, hope you like it :)

blu_plug is very near, stay tuned :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pa.pn2:
so far this kernel is dope

its smooth but not in tapatalk for me.scrolling isnt smooth there.any idea how to reduce that?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Andromendous:
I think the only one that can fix that is taptalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Gallardo994:
Read my tapatalk signature

Sent from Nexus 5 using garbage^W Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] expiredd:
I'm on this ROM for one day and I'm loving it.

What are your kernel settings? Do you use Google Now and/or location?

Thanks :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
LOL, why not use google now and then talk about battery not draining :silly:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ralpheboyo:
Cuz I know better...;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] GtrCraft:
You can try one of my smooth scrolling mods if you use the right rom
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mendozaram:
Use frandom, that resolve tapatalk lag on this side
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] MobileThrowAwayAcc:
Has anyone noticed that with the latest update that the phone will sleep like a baby, but seems to have a hard time throttling back down to 300MHz? Seems to want to bounce around 422-622..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
No, sleep fine and wakeup fine.

Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chrizer4:
Default kernel settings, without frandom.. Google now off and location on when I need it.. :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] expiredd:
Allright I've tweaked kernel a bit. I use Google now. Location off most part of time. Not much sot but I think it's pretty good battery lifeb

Spoiler content hidden.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] chrizer4:
Yeah thats nice! Could you please share your tweaks? I'd like to tweak and test how it goes, but i have no idea where to start from :P

Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] expiredd:
Using synapse, CPU max 1958, CPU Power saving multicore aggressive, CPU governor blueactive, CPU global voltage -50 and - 75 for 300mhz. That's it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] haasgo:
Tweaked nothing, left evetything as it was, flashed frandom and enabled art runtime:

Running wlan and 4g the whole time. Whatsapping, facebook and vids all the way. Will hit the 5h for sure! I am really happy with this!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dead0:
did notice that, seems to spend more time on 422 than 300 but no biggie :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] thucoisao:
UC to 1.7, UV - 75, blue active, and everything default.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] For1n:
286 works like a charm and I upgraded from 253,

PA beta3, xposed, uc and -50 undervolted

IMO the best kernel for N5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
I'm using frandom but still tapatalk lags a lot. Even observed in many apps. Did you modify any kernel values?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mendozaram:
Nop, i didnt , thats weird
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] AquilaDroid:
Did you underclock at all? I had a lot of lag when I went down 25mV better now that I went back to 0.

From my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
No underclock, just stock settings. I'm on liquidsmooth BTW and unfortunately, the default kernel had less lags compared to code blue :(

Only difference i found compared with uber kernel is phone is much cooler with this kernel. Even after playing games, it rapidly cools down the phone but in that kernel, it takes time to cool down. Nevertheless, i observed lags on many apps even on ART :( What ROM are you using BTW?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
I believe it's a liquid problem. I've been trying to get rid if lag on liquid for days now, but the only place I see lag is on the settings screen. All apps are ok - never used taptalk so I can't say about that, but settings lags like crazy. Other roms ok, liquid not.

Oldest liquid I can find is a 3.1 official, and no lag there. Anything later and there's the lag.

Fwiw, this kernel helped a lot, but doesn't remove lag completely.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
Well, the problem is with default kernel. You need to change the governor inorder to get rid of lags and it works quite well with that kernel to be honest. It even reduced most of the lags on tapatalk as well. But nevertheless, had problems with rom where some features won't work. I'm about to install mahdi and flash this kernel. Hope everything goes well :cool:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
Yup, but lag is still there, regardless of governor, or anything else. I've tried everything, even art, which helped, but doesn't get rid of it entirely.

Don't know haw familiar you are with liquid, it's been my go to since the droid x, but things like this creep up here and there. All normal for liquid, but things usually get sorted out before to long.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] swat4samp:
Well, i tried it for the first time and it had so much lag at the starting but after using it after two or three reboots, everything settled down just fine. And for me, i didn't experience any lag particularly at settings. I'm damn sure about that as i tested two versions. Only lags are present in apps like tapatalk and some news readers.Anyways, i flashed mahdi and immediately flashed this kernel, so far so good. I flashed smooth scrolling mod and never had any lags on settings. I think it's better to stop rom discussions lol ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] HEROEdelREVES:
Quick question.

How do i uninstall or how do i clear data of the previous kernel? I'm using Uber kernel right now.

Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] radzik2908:
Dirty flash rom, reboot than flash kernel.

Wysłane z mojego Nexus 5 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] HEROEdelREVES:
Thanks for your answers, i thought that too but i was asking because the OP says:

So i thought reflashing rom and uninstalling/cleaning data of kernel was different stuffs.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] phanitej:
Im on liquidsmooth and no issues at all. No Lag, cooler phone and better battery life. The only change in the kernel is, i underclocked it to 1497
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ironjon:
Someone with frandom installed have disconnections?

I have a lot of them playing online, without frandom I haven't problems.

Sent from my Code_Blue Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] GtrCraft:
No problem at all
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] xirolf:
Setting

Guys where do i choose governor or underclock and things like that???
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] marf28101995:
With an app like synapse +ukm... Trickster.. Kernel tweaker.. Or with scripts
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] xirolf:
There is a tutorial on how to do it? Do i have to flash this app or just download?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] marf28101995:
Install kernel tweaker from play store and use Google to search before messing around with the settings

Good luck :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] xirolf:
I installed kernel tweaker but not that good for me, i don't really like it. I flashed ukm 3.2 and istalled synapse and it's really good. Really Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Minfreak:
286 build is better than 280 build in terms the battery life xD
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] crisjogos:
Wich rom?

Enviado de meu LG-V500 usando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Nucleotide:
For you, perhaps it is. For everyone else, considering battery life is 100% subjective, the stock Google kernel could be better.

It would be great if we could all stop clogging up a "development thread" with completely useless and totally irrelevant battery stat screenshots.

I follow this thread multiple times a day, as I'm sure many others do. There is nothing worse then jumping in here only to find pictures of a battery stats. No useful information what so ever. Just garbage! :(
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:


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:D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Nucleotide:
[MENTION=3750674]PetritH[/MENTION] I do remember reading that post by eng.stk and I was quite surprised to be honest.

For me personally, 280 was better then 286, and 247 is better then them both - which is the release I'm currently sitting on and staying on for now. From the many previous posts I've read, there are still heaps of people sitting on older versions because that is what works best for them in their individual situations. I think there were even some people recently who said they are sticking with r209.

So again, asking for or posting battery stats is completely irrelevant. It just fills a development thread with useless information.

Unless you have two 'identical' devices running in an identical environment where everything from cell signal quality to apps and services running in the background is the same, it's impossible to measure accurately. For starters, most of us are on different sides of the globe so straight away cell service and quality is going to throw out any comparison before we even begin to dig deeper into daily usage patterns and so on.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] slv96:
Best battery life ever for me! ?

Mahdi + Code_blue r286

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
People asked me to add the I2C patches to see if battery was better, of course I asked for feedback on it, to see if there were any changes.

I didn't ask for full hd screenshots of battery stats or anything (which is annoying, at least put it as a attachment if you really must, ok guys?)

Of course battery can be tested in a honest way, a guy did a good test in G+ a while ago (he simulated pretty much the same usage), testing different settings between tests.

But its true, wished that were more development posting, but I guess most of users doesn't have the knowledge to do so (I already showed my opinion on this a couple of times).

Where do you see a bunch of people using older versions? 10 guys (or even less)?

r286 had 1900 hits in just 2 days. I'm cool with it :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Vobi1024:
Personally I don't "feel" any big improvement of i2c patches. That was the main reason why tried f.60 kernel not long ago, but no big battery saving... I feel the same is true here, with codeblue. Nothing better just because of i2c, but simply better in general.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] proyatzu:
For me i2c works like a charm, battery is better
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
I guess it depends on the user usage.

I dont have an official on it, but it seems to improve the battery a little. Not a miracle though :p

One thing is certain, it seems like not hurting anything, I think I'll keep it

Now the news guys: blu_plug is ready for mainstream, probably will debut on next release, with full support from UKM by pur friend [MENTION=5658634]apb_axel[/MENTION] :victory:

Stay tuned :highfive:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] GtrCraft:
Now things get very interesting :victory:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
The problem is, people hear from a new feature ( now it's I2c " that saves battery and think there is a new world wonder. Then the improvement is minimal and people crying.

It's the same with the battery blabla like " what rom, setting, how is battery" it's pointless.

Why people don't test it self? There are sooooo many factors, apps, usage, WiFi, data and and and........ we all use our device different.

All in all we all have 4=6 hours SOT, that's good, we have no Nuclear power station, we have a small device with a small battery that give us a good usage time.

Don't get me wrong but this "what's the Best for battery" is pointless. Test some builds and make your own choice, that's the only way you will find out what is the best for you and makes you happy.

I had to say

Best Regards

Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] mj084:
Well said:thumbup:

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Maybe the next Nexus killer feature will be NPP attached :silly:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dhalham:
May I ask what is bluplug? Or hot plug even and how does it benefit us?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Aerowinder:
Please call it blu_plug. When I read "bluplug" I thought it said something very different! :laugh:

It is a better implementation of Google's logic that tells your 4 cores when they should be online, and when they should be offline.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] neriamarillo:
Dirty mind I see... Lol
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] bikeryder007:
Does bluplug have any leakage issues?[emoji6]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] dhalham:
Woah let's relax now...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
Ha ha, I was gonna go there, but ......... But decided not to

Ah, nevermind, I can see this getting worse if I go on

And now for something completely different;

What are the advantages of these custom hot plugs?

I've always found mpdecision to work very well, at least show-p's implementation. And it does come from the folks who make this chip.

Not knocking those who create the custom hot plugs, I could only wish I had that kind of talent, but I would figure if anyone knew this chipset, it would be the folks at Qualcomm.

For the record, I am using this kernel, and find performance and battery to be good. It is buttery smooth.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Nucleotide:
What are the advantages of having custom ROMs? Custom kernels in general? Any other mod or tweak you can think of?

This is Android development at it's best. It gives us, users and other developers alike, choice/options/alternatives. For the developers, maybe it's about the challenge(?) and perhaps creating some new and unique that no one has done before. Experimenting. Pushing the boundaries. There is no end really.

:good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
I take it you also don't know jk lol!

I'm all for individual development, which as said, gives us all more options. That's why I hack everything - so I can have it my way. It's my money, I want it my way.

But - I was talking more about performance/battery advantages.

I highly doubt someone developes something to be "bad", well, not here anyway. But what's the "good"? Why is x more gooder than y?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] carlese:
Hi, I am using the latest build and my phone randomly shut down 3 times in a day.. Never happened before.. I don't have any last_kmsg in the proc folder, how can I help you [MENTION=3873953]eng.stk[/MENTION]?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] haasgo:
Its not that you just change 3 numbers and say: hey folks! Here is mpdecision, blue_blug etc. Its a highly complicated matter of trying to get the best logic into how the chipset reacts towards tasks. Google/qualcomm might just program it to a matter where everything is smooth but not at its best, to make it stable as possible for millions of users. We are not even 10.000 "customers" who even have the advantage of having the dev by hand and getting newest updates on a weekly basis. We can go all the way with trial and error, but not google/qualcomm. They need stability and compatibility for the masses (10+ mio. If you count in all qualcomm snapdragon 800 soc chipsets/smartphones) and at last its a kinda geeky fun to tinkle with kernels, flash roms and do all that stuff! :p
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
Sure you must have last_kmsg, but you need root to read it.

No logs, no fun...

show-p's implementation, despite the name, is a custom hotplug, just like mine, franco, faux, etc.

mpdecison (the stock one) is a binary in ROM level, not kernel level. A black box which we don't know how it works, we don't have the code.

It work s well for lot's of devices with qualcomm chips, but we can't optimize it, add new features, etc.

With kernel level hotplugging, you can improve all you want. Get more performance and battery, make the behavior of hotplugging/unplugging the way you want, control timmings and interrupts, make powersave offscreen stuff, and so on.

And don't forget that we use lot's of stuff that is from CAF (OCde Aurora Forum), which is Qualcomm bleeding edge development site.

If we all thuink that Google and other players did their best, there would not be custom ROMs or Kernels
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] carlese:
Even synapse said no last_kmsg found..
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Archipago:
Gonna test this baby again when blu_plug is released great work :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Tylog:
We test it atm:)

Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Phazmos:
Deleted, oopsed

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Only ran stock once. No root method for the device so I had to wait. That was something like 5 yrs ago!

What I liked about shows mpdecision was that it was at the kernel level, just needed more tunables. Hopefully we'll see more when bluplug is ready. Can't wait!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jyuuken:
Oh man waiting for blu_plug as well awesome kernel, much more awesome dev!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] abbz123:
Blu me!
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] stark_br:
[MENTION=3873953]eng.stk[/MENTION]

Hi, sir.

Would you please take a look at this bug fix by Franco?

I suffer from this too long, even with code blue...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=55107764&postcount=34899

Thank you :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] raventothepowerofpi:
Does this work on LiquidSmooth ROM? :rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
I just flashed this kernel guys, the min freq is 1.7 can I change it to 300 or I should leave it that way?

thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] checus:
Disable cpu boost script from init.d put at 100 valor 2 lines to 0
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] alen1901:
I believe its just saying 1.7, put it on 300, save and forget. :D

Sent from Pure Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] szucsgf:
Min CPU is temporarily boosted to 1497 or 1728 under load, similar to MPD. Verify that lower frequencies are being used with an app like Trickster.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] eng.stk:
This is normal.

Min freq is 300, it just boosts up to 1728 but it comes down right after.

You just were reading at the time of the jump. if you scroll tabs on trickster, it would show the 300 again (or other min freq you choose)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Yeah, got it guys, thanks a lot.