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[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Agreed. The Google concept is everything exists in Google, your documents (Gdrive), your apps, PLUS they want all your money (Play, music, film books and of course adverts to make you pay for the products they select for you).

Me, i got my unlocked rooted phones using adblock and adaway. The only thing I bought recently is a non-advertised OnePlusOne with 64GB storage.

Agreed only in so far as for any given technology it drops to nil margin due to commoditisation so fresh ways to make you pay more are formulated. The "cloud" is just a fresh way to make you pay more. I mean, they charge you hosting prices, and if the phone is sold through a carrier, as a way to make you pay more for bandwidth. Notice how we all actually pay more per month for the "essential' we managed forever not needing before.....? Hint hint: you were just manipulated.

Agreed, electromagnetic energy dissipates to the square of distance so it takes more Watts to transmit to a further 4G station than nearer Wifi accesspoint. Hence bigger phones with bigger batteries. I carry a 5000mah slim battery cheap way to last the longer days and I need it far less now moved from Nexus 5 to OnePlusOne.

I'm now paying per person $26/month per handset for unlimited talk text and 3GB/month/handset with 1GB buffer, on a decent national coverage network, and I use large storage phones and OTG storage, so the 'net is for streaming that which can't be stored locally. It is as low cost as I can find with decent coverage in USA.

I'd not jump to Verizon because it costs more. Who wins with paying more? I know the notion of you're getting something for it but are you really? More like you been brainwashed Verizon has something you need. Be aware.
[Nexus 6  General] x111:
Google, please, make me happy, make a 64gb or even more version of next Nexus phone generation.

I personally hate your cloud and use it only for sharing purposes.

Battery must be at least 4000mAh.

oh, and also, hope will be the highest specs which available on market.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
And for $300-$350 and no tax.

In the meantime these things are useful and v.small.

http://www.patriotmemory.com/product/detail.jsp?prodline=7&catid=101&prodgroupid=283&id=8224&type=27
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
nice find! Is the quality fairly decent?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
No idea there are plenty like that I got the faster bigger version. If you not already physically seen one then one end goes into the phone the other end goes direct into laptop and they are tiny keyring type things. Fastest way to get data between computer and phone and to augment storage cheaply.
[Nexus 6  General] Bozk:
Android Silver line, with an 6 inch display and 801 soc.Running on a official release of android L
[Nexus 6  General] Charlus97:
If the number doesn't represent the screen size, why the 2013 model of nexus 7 wasn't called nexus 8 ?
[Nexus 6  General] ChanceOfChange:
but its not a nexus and it has not all of this specs!
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
I just said that it is that one. Those are the specs with the only difference being the processor. It will run vanilla android so it will be on par with the Nexus. It's basically a Nexus from the company oneplus. It even has the touchless voice features that the moto x has.

Qualcomm Snapdragon 801

3,100mAh battery with QuickCharge (charges to 75% in 30 minutes)

5.5-inch 1080p HD display

13 megapixel f/2.0 Sony EXMOR camera with 4K video recording

Custom version of CyanogenMod with touchless controls

http://phandroid.com/2014/03/25/oneplus-one-release-date-2/
[Nexus 6  General] ChanceOfChange:
nahhh :P ehehehe! i prefere a pure nexus! the best phone for customization and moding!
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
LOL.... you have no idea what you're even talking about but yeah the Nexus is a great device.
[Nexus 6  General] JunDavis:
Almost forgot to thank! :o

Anyways we can keep posting what we want to see in a Nexus 6 to pass time but it won't change a thing. More to just tickle your fancy :)
[Nexus 6  General] ChanceOfChange:
im not wish brteaker so yes i dont know..or cant be unferstanded..
[Nexus 6  General] sellers86:
The number doesn't really represent the screen size.. The nexus 4 didn't have a 4 inch screen.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Yes it did. 4.76 I believe
[Nexus 6  General] sellers86:
Well if that's your theory then the nexus 5 is a nexus 4... -.- the n4 does NOT have a 4 inch screen, it has a 4.7 inch (or whatever) screen.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
I never said what my theory was, I just stated the size of the n4 screen
[Nexus 6  General] sellers86:
Which still isnt 4 inches.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Your right, it's not 3 inches or 70 either
[Nexus 6  General] sellers86:
I know that. I didn't say the names were based on screen sizes, I said the exact opposite.
[Nexus 6  General] Smallsmx3:
Ok, I didn't either
[Nexus 6  General] fkloznica:
just my 2 cents on n5 2014

5.2 inches 1080p

s610 64bit

16 and 32gb versions

2600mah battery.

13mp camera
[Nexus 6  General] hutzdani:
Well what ever is running my N5 is more than needed to do phone stuff / web / mails.

i'd rather see a lesser GPU and get a better battery / camera

i have not played game son my phone since i dropped my ONE X to Nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] Tylog:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/5458...-release-date-specs-features.htm#.Uzlj6MvD8m9

Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
[Nexus 6  General] FuMMoD:
Ibtimes is the worst. The onion is a more reliable news source. Watch this video it really looks legit.

The Onion - Bloomberg Defends NYPD's Controversial Stop And K…: http://youtu.be/GXXaj--a6-4
[Nexus 6  General] mistahseller:
if the n6 doesn't make me dinner it's a bust
[Nexus 6  General] dondian:
Why not 805? I'm sure most people would prefer 5,5" ;)
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
"Most people"? Define your group.
[Nexus 6  General] dondian:
Just based on reactions from people about Shamu (5,9" possibility for the next Nexus from Motorola).

Maybe I should say 5 - 5,5", is imo the most desired for the Nexus 5 to 6 upgraders.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
"People"? Are these representative of which group?

I ask as I have found out there in real life only about 3% who like 5" and above.

If narrower groups of geeks the % increases.

Tablets exist is a lot of the reason. If you want large screen use a 7"+
[Nexus 6  General] zujko:
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_shamu_possible_nexus_6_gets_benchmarked-news-9318.php

Wtf:mad:

No s805 this year on N6..

Then it is better to stay at N5

In terms of performance, I see no difference, except in name s800-s801..
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Logic error on GSMarena's part? The bigger the screen, the more cpu needed to drive more pixels for a given FPS, so fact the bigger screen is holding its own implies a faster cpu not the same same.

Your point though is valid, for an existing N5 user it may make no sense to move up if don't want a bigger screen, but for a new user with a choice of options, who wants a bigger screen. they just shown it as pretty good.

I know nothing this is just inference.
[Nexus 6  General] Note10.1Dude:
I don't think I believe the current Shamu rumor. It sounds like somebody is assigning a 5.8 or .9" screen to a MOTO X+1. The main reason I don't believe it (as it is circulating) is Android L. Google wants developers to have a Nexus device to test on, and with Android L going 64 bit, that testing should be in the 64 bit configuration. That is why we are seeing the K1 Denver in the 9". I just don't see an 801 or 805 in the next Nexus device. I think there are a couple of options 1) We will see an October Nexus 6, and the added size will allow a larger battery and heat dissipation to deal with a K1 Denver, or 2) The Nexus 6 is 6+ months out and will have a Qcom 64 bit processor.

Personally, I'll probably have a MOTO X+1, as something around 5" appeals to me, I'm about 2 months out from needing a new phone on my primary line, and while the nexus 5, Sony Z2, or HTC M8 all have a certain appeal, I've been very happy with the Moto G on my backup line this year and I like the customization options. If I'm wrong and the Nexus 6 is kicking around by October, I would have to re-think, but I don't think I'm ready for 5.9"
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Dang, I was really hoping for the 805 and a 2k display to make that 5.9" look beautiful! But alas, it needs to be cheap still, haha. Still would have liked the 805 with a 1080p display.

Looks like its an 801 with 1080p, kinda a letdown. Still a huge upgrade from my current device.

I still have this odd feeling that Shamu isn't the nexus, and that the actual nexus is going to have a MediaTek processor JUST to show off 64-bit. And I don't know if that's a good or bad thing either... haha
[Nexus 6  General] -A-P-M-:
http://www.gsmarena.com/nexus_6_flaunts_snapdragon_805_on_antutu-news-9327.php

Nexus 6 spotted on AnTuTu?

Snapdragon 805, Krait 450 2,65GHz, 3GB of RAM, Adreno 420 GPU, 5,2 display with 564 ppi. Made by Motorola.

:cool:
[Nexus 6  General] doctor_droid:
Now it seems a worthy upgrade...

However i would still stick wid n5...
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
Finally....Snapdragon 805. A worthy upgrade.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] :
If any of that is true.... A Moto Nexus would be very tempting. :)
[Nexus 6  General] doctor_droid:
No plz dont leave us :silly: lol
[Nexus 6  General] adibeckett:
Interesting, so now the only questions for me are:

1) What's the battery?

2) Will it stay at it's $350 price tag? Or even only go up to $400?

I currently have my Oneplus One and am happy with it but if I didn't, I'd go with the Nexus 6.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
My current thinking (today) is go with two handsets as one single phone doesn't meets all my needs.

I like the phablet context for about 20% of my needs when I'm

in a work environment walking around with my one phone in my big work pants pockets

Flying through terminals and the plane when one device in pocket to put on that little tray works better than a small phone as your 10-hour flight device and easier to keep in your tiny seat one device than two devices

Long time from mains power

I like the smaller phone for 80% of my needs when I'm

able to use two devices, a larger tablet as primary interactive device, phone just for speaking through

Minimalist don't intend to use the phone at all / much and just want a small simple device

My Nexus 5 I gave to my wife who flatly refuses a larger phone, I moved to OnePlusOne which I like in some situations, dislike in other situations. I been looking at 2nd-hand Nexus 5 to then move back to using both phones.

OnePlusOne, a 5.5 64GB 3GB for $360 delivered is a good idea for some situations, not all.

I need Nexus 6 to come out so all the geeks jump to it and 2nd-hand Nexus 5 drop in price so I can buy one for say $200, right now they are $300 typically and new I can get for $380 sometimes and its not worth $745 to have 2 phones.

Nexus 6, I love it to come out to drive down used phone prices.
[Nexus 6  General] vin4yak:
Omg... Really? :D

I predict this might happen in the near future..

1. Think a dozen times and then finally fall for the Shamu.

2. Put up m8 on sale.

3. Buy Shamu and party hard with your family with the remaining cash? :D

He kinda already has.. Moved on to the m8 :o:angel:

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It will most probably have a $400-450 tag at least.. With the Nexus 5 still going strong, I doubt whether Shamu is going to completely replace the Nexus 5. May be they will release it as a refreshed version of Nexus 5? Something like Nexus 5 (2014) and keep both the phones ticking on the playstore? :D (Heard multiple times that the name "Nexus 6" was already registered under something else).

Ahh well, we will just have to wait and see what happens!

It's really strange though... There's not a single leak for the device as of yet. Motorola/Lenovo has done a pretty good job so far of staying off rumorland! :D
[Nexus 6  General] adibeckett:
I wouldn't be surprised if it comes out to $500. There's going to be some real grumbles if the battery isn't near say 3000 mAh.
[Nexus 6  General] Note10.1Dude:
+1, but I put more stock in the "if" part than I do on the second clause at the moment.
[Nexus 6  General] dondian:
I think the price of the Nexus will stay the same (unless they make one with bigger capacity e.g. 64gb).

The price tags of 500 and above are reserved for android silver devices imo.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I observe Nexus nudge up prices. Nexus 4 launch price US$299 (8 GB) and US$349 (16 GB) , Nexus 5 16GB $349 32GB $399.

Not happy about the price increases, but if you draw the line you get Nexus 5 2014 32GB $399, 64GB $450 which makes it $100 more than OPO and Google add salestax, OPO doesn't so for me it becomes more like $504 which is >$150 more than OPO.

However, hoping nexus 6 causes Nexus 5 prices to drop, new and used. I got my N5 for $385 delivered in May. I'd quite like to pick up another for say $200, hence wow, Nexus 6 is a GREAT phone, buy it and you need to sell your N5 quick was a horrible phone only worth, say, $200.
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Ahhhhhh that's more like it! :)
[Nexus 6  General] krabman:
I'll be hitting refresh in the moments before presale opens up and trying to get in on the first batch.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Interesting.

I will wait 3 months minimum and read your posts here. The idea of buying a new design is laughable to me. It is a phone it has to be reliable. Nothing is reliable initially due to usually software which fixes in typically 2 months but sometimes in hardware and then you got to be sure you are getting a later manufactured batch.
[Nexus 6  General] ThugEsquire:
rekt
[Nexus 6  General] krabman:
I find your condescension laughable. I've had every nexus produced, all the Galaxy devices, a good chunk of all the flagship devices ever introduced by any OEM without having a problem and none has failed to be reliable and all were pre-ordered. However in the extremely unlikely event this one should prove otherwise I'll just pull one of many phones out of the drawer and use it while I wait for a replacement without losing a single wink of sleep anywhere along the process and in fact enjoying myself every minute of the way. And yeah, I own the corporation I work for so my phone actually has to work.

Please feel free to sit on the sidelines if this is what you feel is right for you but don't think for a minute I want any part of it. Last don't mistake your opinion for being right. There is nothing wrong with it and you'll find lots of people that would agree with it but it aint got nothing to do with right.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
An interesting reply. However, examples are

nexus 5 had speaker grills widened in first month

Wasn't til quite some months in that audio and camera fixes worked initially recovery zips then ota.

You then get the kernel and ROM community takes time to formulate then alpha then beta then volume usage. Kernels like Franco make real battery life gains whilst Google rush out features and bug fixes, which collectively complement each other.

You seem eager to rush a reply faster than read my post. I said hardware and software but you only replied about hardware.

It is also not condescending as folks like you put in the effort to find the issues so later ones can benefit. Hence we need the speed geeks to rush in.

Now calm down and put reading and thinking in proportion to writing and venting.
[Nexus 6  General] krabman:
I'm not venting. You were wrong and you've been called out. You said it was laughable to pre order a new phone because you needed reliability and new phones were not reliable enough. Not until hardware and software revisions had been made could you use a phone for your critical phone use because nothing is reliable initially. Nothing. Those were your words, "Nothing is reliable initially" and that taint true.

The N5 eh? My daughter is still using the N5 I gave her which was preordered and neither of us had any problems whatsoever with anything on the phone. Not with the hardware, not with the software. Nothing wrong whatsoever. Nothing. Totally, completely, reliable from day one right up to this day. The same could be said for nearly every phone I've had and nearly all were preordered.

I'm not posting for your benefit specifically since I suspect you will keep on coming back over and over with one post after another trying to sell your opinion. Thats why this will be my last post here and I'm going to give you the last word. I posted because lots of people come here and those that have little experience with this stuff might mistake the misinformation you posted as truth when it is not. Chances are that pre-oredered phone is going to work just fine because they usually do and chances are it will be completely reliable because they usually are. This is objective truth. If you want to say in your opinion you would rather wait for possible hardware/software revisions because it suits you to do so, great. I got no gripe with that. Your money, you spend it the way you want and you've a right to your opinion. Just don't trot it out as truth when it is not. "Nothing is reliable initially" is pure crap. I cant even think of a single example of someone I know in the real world who got a modern new flagship smartphone and has some problem with its reliability that kept them from getting a mission critical call, text, youtube link etc. I'm sure they exist but they are the exception, not the rule.

The last word is yours.
[Nexus 6  General] zujko:
Guys calm down ..

The name of this theme is the nexus 6..

NHF
[Nexus 6  General] bradputt:
To be fair, yeah I'm still using my early released nexus 5 with the smaller speaker grills holes.

No big issues and I still love my N5 to bits.

There's nothing wrong pre ordering, I like to be a early adopter because it's easier to follow forums when there's lesser threads.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Most XDA Nexus addicts preorder asap... :cool:
[Nexus 6  General] -A-P-M-:
I bought Nexus 5 when it was released and I have no issues, actually it is the best phone I ever had. I will also get Moto Nexus asap.
[Nexus 6  General] Mindspin_311:
Going to be a debate between this and the 1+1 once they finally just let you buy the damn thing.
[Nexus 6  General] :
No contest for flashaholics tho... Nothing compares to a Nexus for development options. ?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
"This" as in N6? Vs OPO? I think even when n6 released they will be debated. I doubt n6 will be the low cost of OPO. E.g. n6 $450 with some specs higher vs $350 OPO

sent from my OnePlusOne

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That equates to long life so higher value used. Nexus 4 still selling for $200. I sold mine for $245 last month. Used N5 still $330. N4 got the last 4.4.4.

sent from my OnePlusOne
[Nexus 6  General] :
I just sold my N5 (wife made me ?).

I posted the add on a popular Canadian buy and sell site. It was sold in 30 minutes for 275. Lol
[Nexus 6  General] radicalisto:
You can order the OPO from Aliexpress directly. Check out the OPO forum, there's plenty of people who've had them imported. Remember China sells them direct without the need for invites.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Indeed. I just tried to be helpful forum member and got 6 invites. $360 delivered direct from manufacturer.

sent from my OnePlusOne
[Nexus 6  General] krabman:
I like the Find 7a better than the OPO now that the roms are rolling and I gave the OPO to one of my boys. Truth be told IMO the phones are pretty much the same though and if its wasn't for the better camera software and my annoyance at what I consider BS marketing the OPO would be my choice without factoring in cost. With cost it becomes a much more compelling buy. If things play out as the indications are now however the N6 it is probably going to be better than either unless the slightly greater screen real estate of those two is a significant plus for a buyer. For myself I've tried to make friends with the larger phones like the note, OPO and failed. It would seem I've reached my preference at the 5ish inch mark in regards to the benefits of increasing screen size versus the hassle of carrying an increasingly bigger phone.

A factor that weighs in heavily with me is that the Nexus devices are supported as well as a phone will be supported. I've learned to do a lot of stuff here and I'm still learning which is great and it gives me a lot of enjoyment but frankly I'm still in the happy when I get something to compile stage and I'll never have the skills of so many here. A heavily developed device is a big value add in real terms and increases the phones legs. This I think is why the Nexus devices are the only ones I buy without much of any thought. You are guaranteed to have the latest greatest software on what is going to be a high spec if not flagship phone and the community is going to make it bad ass. You know this going in. Both the OPO and Find 7 which I'm bringing up because the OPO had been mentioned several times will never see that same development. This is no shot at the guys doing that work, some top notch people there who are working hard but developers build on each others work and there will never be more than a fraction of the same effort placed into the OPO. This reality cannot be negotiated with.

Keep in mind I'm not saying the OPO is a bad value or that someone should not buy it. I'm saying that price is a number but value speaks to more, what you get for that number. Until we have solid no BS numbers on the N6 its hard to make any kind of value comparison but I think its possible that it may be a better value despite costing more.
[Nexus 6  General] pgptheoriginal:
I think this Nexus 6 won't be a huge improvement over our N5, and therefore it won't be a worthy update spec-wise, though a Nexus by Motorola phone sounds really intriguing :)

The upgrade might have a sense only if N6 has some useful new sensor or functionality.

Anyway, the next nexus phone will replace my current N5 only if my other phone (Desire HD) dies in the meantime, because I don't feel the need to change it at the moment.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] :
I'll stick with the Nexus 5 for another year, it's a damn nice phone. A 5" screen is definitely my limit. I can't use a phone with a bigger screen. If Google thinks it is necessary to increase the size of their displays on a yearly base, then I think I have to skip every upcoming Nexus phone. Sadly.
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
I wonder how accurate this is...

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/39704...pdragon-805-chip-2560x1440-display/index.html
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Im thinking a lot more likely than the 5.9" display!

There was one benchmark (gfx benchmark or something along those lines) which people thought measured up to 1080p and snapdragon 801.

Then there was that AnTuTu benchmark which gives far more info, 1440p display and s805 processor, which MAY (???) perform about the same as the 1080p powered by an 801, so the GFX Bench may have been the same specs as the AnTuTu all along.

I have sort of a weird question for anyone here:

How easily would it be to fudge the codename and such for a benchmarking app like those? Is it possible that someone could fake us out by modifying

build.prop or something and doing the test? Very unlikely I assume, but any chance someone is doing that for Shamu?

5.9 and 5.2 are VERY different to have such strong pieces of evidence for a device that has the same codename...

Maybe tested on a big display to test out the new material design look, but then actual device is the 5.2" display?
[Nexus 6  General] -A-P-M-:
Last year I said that 5 display is a limit for me, but if next Nexus will had 5.2 I would still get it. 5.9 display is too big and I would skip it for sure.
[Nexus 6  General] :
If phones start creeping towards 6 inch screens....without "mini" versions with same specs, IPhone sales will soar even higher.

I find it hard to believe the phones makers would be that dumb. Guess time will tell. :)

My wife held my HTC and said she would never want a Phone that big.... And I'm sure she's not alone. Especially with females.