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[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
Google has to cut corners somewhere to hit the price point it needs. They don't cut corners on the SoC used traditionally, and I expect them to continue that trend.

Best case scenario is:

Latest Qualcomm SoC

16gb/32gb

Front facing speakers

1080p panel

3000+ mah battery

Waterproof

I don't see them splurging on a 1440p display when its absolutely unnecessary and would much rather they put the money towards front facing stereo speakers and a larger battery. I hope that OEMs dont decide that larger batteries should be reserved for their flagship devices, and instead choose to use the 1440p display as the differentiator. Google also won't rock the boat with regards to emmc, instead choosing to stick with 16/32. Whether its waterproof or not depends entirely on which OEM and which model phone its based on, and again depends on of the OEM considers waterproofing as a feature that only their flagship should have.
[Nexus 6  General] fkloznica:
it will be 64 bit soc.. google said that they will probably make 64bit compatible android,what is the best way to showcase that?

a nexus whit s610 or s615 soc
[Nexus 6  General] muyoso:
I think Google will do the 64bit thing this spring with the new Nexus 7 and hopefully an Intel chipset. Maybe that is just wishful thinking though.
[Nexus 6  General] GzC:
64-bit will require support from many SoC manufacturer, that not gonna happen anytime soon, atleast not this year. Plus, s610/s615 wasn't the high end SoC, Google will only make their Nexus line smartphone based on manufacturer's flagship phone they selected.
[Nexus 6  General] bradputt:
The traditional nexus line is to showcase their software, not hardware.

I don't think it will be top of the range anyway.
[Nexus 6  General] GzC:
The tradition of Nexus line was always based on flagship phone which have top of the range hardware too.
[Nexus 6  General] :
Yes, based on flagship phones.....but with some corners cut....for cost reduction and so it doesn't outdo the flagship its based on. ;)

Sent from my N5, Moto X, N7, Gtab3 or S2....
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
so which screen size will be 5.2 or 5.9? I'm thinking to upgrade from my ancient s3, but 5.9 is a bit large for a phone, so much noise in the news...
[Nexus 6  General] kingston73:
All the rumors I keep reading suggest both sizes.
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Anyone else hear about this?

http://m.androidcentral.com/google-creates-new-free-replacement-program-damaged-nexus-5-phones

Essentially anyone who bought the N5 through the play store, and accidentally damaged the phone are eligible for a replacement for free...

I've NEVER heard of anything like that before, but if it's true that's really cool for consumers.

Might imply Google has WAY too many leftovers though, which sucks for them.

My guess is they're trying to empty their stock for the Nexus 6 replacement?

Any other thoughts?

Then there's this:

http://www.eyeonmobility.com/2014/64gb-nexus-5-launch-alongside-google-nexus-x/

maybe they're using fixing up the other phones as an opportunity to swap out the storage. But they would HAVE to label it as refurbished though right? not "new"?
[Nexus 6  General] Tylog:
Looks good

http://www.designntrend.com/articles/18958/20140904/nexus-6-x-specs-benchmark-rumor.htm

Tapatalk Team SlimRoms
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
Maybe less than 2 months away.
[Nexus 6  General] The Zel:
I will buy it in any case, I can't think of buying another android device which isn't a nexus... I have a nexus 4
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
No new data, haha :p
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
See I think there are things more than just the specs (in that regard) give to. I'd agree with a 1080p screen, but I'd push it to 5.3" or even 5.5". The rest of that stuff I totally agree with (with a big one being good and loud front-facing speakers).

The other things I think could make the next Nexus a must-buy would be waterproof technology and a huge battery. Throw a 4,000mAh battery in there (increase the thickness a bit) and make it super water-resistant/waterproof. I'd pay the full $700 high-end price for it, if they wanted.

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iPhones do not have an IR blaster.

Beyond that, I don't know a single person that's ever used the IR ports on their phones other than myself. The only time I have? We were at the bar and the bartender wouldn't change the channel to the Browns game because a family was sitting at a table behind everyone and loved Jeopardy. That was the *only* time I've ever used it.

IR ports on smartphones are pretty much ridiculous. If you want it because you can't keep track of your remote, then just keep track of your remote. I've never, in my entire life, lost a remote.
[Nexus 6  General] dvdivx:
If 64gb is an option I'm in otherwise I'll wait.
[Nexus 6  General] *boy*racer*:
http://www.valuewalk.com/2014/09/nexus-6-nexus-x-arrives-india/
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
Does the nexus x will have fingerprint scanner?
[Nexus 6  General] ps000000:
I would glad if New Nexus Phone has IR Blaster remote :good:
[Nexus 6  General] Jonnyredcorn:
I actually am changing my snapdragon 805 chip to a 64bit CPU. Google stated that they are designing Android L to be 64 bit compatible, and I remember when that one guy dismissed the death of the nexus program rumors and stated they need the hardware to develop the software, Nexus phones usually(for the past two years anyway) come with the newest fastest processor.

I doubt they will waterproof the nexus. Remember it is a development device after all. When you think of what the Nexus actually is it is just the hardware to showcase Android. The best part of the Nexus though has got to be price and they can't forget that. If they increase the price by $100 or so I'm sure many of us will still buy it, but there are tons of people who buy the phone especially overseas not because they care about modding or because its a nexus, they buy it because its an amazing phone that is pretty damn cheap for what you get.

ALSO: I have a Samsung plasma PN51D550 and my iPad has a Samsung app that I can use as a remote over WiFi, are there any Android apps that will do that since my TV has the ability to with the iPad anyway?
[Nexus 6  General] VOLTAGEROCK:
That's absolutely going to happen!

Also, I am a little envious though since I believe the new iPhone will make the payments by using their fingerprint sensor instead of a 4 digit pin. I'm hoping Android will get the fingerprint sensor going immediately on every new phone.

Think of how easy it will be to just tap your phone to pay, and then tap your finger to confirm it's the correct owner's account instead of the pin.

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 6  General] systemf:
Hm wonder if it will have Qi wireless charging. Don't know if I can ever go back to plugging in (ya I'm that lazy, but really I have a Qi car setup that has been working great). The Moto 360 watch does so maybe there is hope?
[Nexus 6  General] VOLTAGEROCK:
That's a must have for me as well. I haven't plugged in my phone to charge for about 5 years now since the Palm Pre came out!

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Splashproof is useful for a phone.

Waterproof is essential for Wearables. You can keep the phone in depths of waterproof bag and get by with BT headset and a wearable in the rain.

The BT headset rusts and replaces but its the cheapest part.

I'm totally fed up with my OnePlusOne size, its too stupidly big and I'm waiting for the N5 price drop. Hoping N6 rumors firm up to act to drive down N5 pricing. The macho crowd who go for size I'm hoping will snap up the 5.5 I lug around.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
I sold my OnePlus One because it was just way too big to be practical. I did make $100 profit off it which was nice. Bought another N5 instead. There is no noticeable performance difference between the two, and the N5 is just the right size. Plus, it's a Nexus so... yeah.
[Nexus 6  General] OzmodRom:
i hope for a big battery

I hope they do a good battery, which you can cover a whole day!
[Nexus 6  General] issawillwin:
No leak about battery yet?

Btw i don't understand that they don't put a 64bit chip on the new nexus. With Android L launch it should be. If the battery isn't above 3000 mah i'm going to wait for Ara
[Nexus 6  General] fix-this!:
Not sold on moto making it after seeing the ugly moto x 2014. As long as its a 5" lcd, not amoled ill buy. If not its the g3 or mi4 for me.

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Its not going to be 3000mah, bank on that. They claim L will be battery friendly.
[Nexus 6  General] Jonnyredcorn:
I wouldn't mind an AMOLED, as long as its RGB or diamond matrix.
[Nexus 6  General] fix-this!:
I just cant do amoled. Led is so much cleaner and crisper.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
I think a Moto made Nexus will be hands down the best Nexus yet. They have amazing build quality, bulletproof radios, and I really like their newer designs, much better than any of the other companies. I even like the design of the new Moto X. Not a fan of Sammy or HTC's recent stuff, and the only LG I like is the N5, but I really think the way the front of it is, it looks like an unfinished test device. The back of the N5 is slick, but the front... not so much.

Considering that in my humble opinion, the original Moto X is the greatest [currently available] smartphone ever made (in the "more than the sum of its parts" sense), I am super excited that the next Nexus is almost certainly a Motorola.

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AMOLED is the superior technology. LCD is old news now. Yes, LCDs are generally more accurate, but this is a smartphone, not a computer monitor. AMOLEDS can use less power, you can turn on specific pixels while leaving the rest off (once you have something like the Moto X's active display, it's hard to move to a phone without it), the blacks are unreal, and the colors more vibrant. Plus, they just seem higher tech. Aliens are probably laughing at us that we are still using backlit displays in our personal communicators, no joke.
[Nexus 6  General] tanjiajun_34:
I am kind of a fan for Samsung's display. They just looks way better and less boring to me especially with its true blacks...

In the past, I use to like IPS display because the S.AMOLED screen does not look as sharp and the text looks grainy. But then since the Galaxy S4's 1080p display, there isn't much difference anymore.
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
I think the new moto x looks good. But I wish they had added 3gb of ram and a 64gb storage option. That's what I'm looking for in my next smartphone.
[Nexus 6  General] kilowatt95:
Good point! I haven't pressed the power button on my laptop since I activated the fingerprint scanner for this very reason. However from what I hear the current android implementations of the fingerprint scanner (s5 anyone?) are pretty iffy. I don't know if it's an Android or Samsung issue but before this is made standard it should be worked on.

Since the Nexus line is representative of how Google wants Android to develop, I'm sure that if the Nexus X has a fingerprint scanner many will follow suit. However I don't see that happening unless it's Google's response to the iPhone 6's fingerprint payment system. I highly doubt that'll happen though.
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
I wouldnt mind even a high res pentile, but it's the burn in and yellowish hue over time that kills it for me :/

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For the most part yes, but LCD uses constant amount of power. AMOLED varies: no power for a full black screen, but MORE power than LCD screen for full white screen.

And I honestly believe that most things I do on my phone are either a good mix of colors which would probably average out to LCD power consumption, maybe a tad worse, or it is a completely white screen like browsing the web. For me personally, I think I would benefit battery-wise by having an LCD.

But thats just my personal opinion :)
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
when i am using my tablet and phone i use to keep them on for minutes on static image, when they will fix the screen burn in that those amoled displays getting all the time?
[Nexus 6  General] shamps:
The top most thing I would like is a metal chassis.

Metal feels so good in the hand.

If the nexus 6 is plastic, I will consider the new moto X.

Cheers!!

sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] eAsyy:
I love my Nexus 5. Plastic can be beautiful. Look at the new htc 820. Looks good too.

I want a bigger battery, better camera, and better speakers.
[Nexus 6  General] 350Rocket:
I had a 4 year old nexus one with amoled with no burn in, am HTC one s that my friend has now, a couple years old, and had a gs3 and gs2 almost 2 years old and over 2 years old all with amoled with no burn in. I think it's only a problem for people that leave the screen on a long time.

I would like amoled again for the battery saving as I like dark backgrounds and for active display.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
On Screen buttons and status bar, hopefully should be better with all the transparencies and colour changes.
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
There is no escape from screen burn in with amoled display, eventually you will get it.

Either you will get it from the on screen buttons or from the status bar or from a game with on screen controls.

I hope Google will go for the LCD in the next nexus, I want my nexus to last at least 2-3 years.
[Nexus 6  General] issawillwin:
I think that Google will not use s.AMOLED tech for the display because of the Samsung vs Google cold war. Even if Motorola use samoled display for the upcomming Moto X. It's Google, king in the north , this guys don't screw with communication. If they use s.AMOLED for their own device, it is weakness. Meaning that Samsung is right and that Google is now defending itself.

Concerning the CPU i really hope for tegra K1. Launching Android L for 64bit chips with a 32bit chip on the Nexus would be idiotic in my point of view.
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
Nexus is no-longer a "development device". It hasn't been for a few years now (I wouldn't even consider the Nexus 4 one).
[Nexus 6  General] issawillwin:
In your opinion what is the upcoming development device for this year?
[Nexus 6  General] californicated:
I can't believe the next nexus to be built by Motorola and have higher specs than their brand new flagship. That's not how we know the nexus line
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
The Nexus has had better specs than the Companies flagship before just the gap between releases was bigger.

We need to get Development and Developer device. Yes its a development Device, Android L was built hand in hand with it, but the fact that google released a Preview Android L for Older Nexus devices means the new Nexus isn't a Developer Device at all. Developers Been Developing without the device.
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
There isn't an upcoming "development" device. It's a reference device, but that doesn't mean it needs to be underpowered or not marketed like a main-line phone.
[Nexus 6  General] californicated:
Isn't the N5 based on the G2, which was released before? Same soc, same ram, better cam and bigger battery.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
Yes but its not an cheap phone by design but by Subsidy. The Galaxy Nexus was a better phone than the GS2.
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
I agree, I remember I was pretty disappointed with the Moto X last year. Im sure it was still a solid device, but it seemed a bit behind in terms of specs.

I also thought it was weird that the Nexus 6/X potentially has quite better specs
[Nexus 6  General] Richieboy67:
The replacement you get is refurbished. They are just trying to hwy rid of all the rma devices probably. :)
[Nexus 6  General] mudnightoil:
Rumours persist of a 5.9" screen size. In my opinion this would be a disaster for the device as a reference and development platform, as I simply can't see too many people wanting to carry around something that enormous with them. Nexus 4 & 5 were so popular because they were affordable, well specced and right in the size sweetspot for the time of their release (4.7" & 4.95" respectively). Surely anything bigger than 5.2" or so, and this will be much more of a value consumer device than one for developers and those who wish to test new ROMs or OSes on.
[Nexus 6  General] giganielsie:
Android 5 = Lion??

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Nexus-5-2014-benchmarks-leak-reveal-Android-5.0-Lion-surprise_id60420

And the nexus 6 with the following specs:

5.2-inch display with 1440 x 2560-pixel (Quad HD) resolution

Android 5.0 Lion

Snapdragon 805 running at up to 2.7GHz, Adreno 420

3GB RAM, 32GB internal storage

12-megapixel rear cam, 2-megapixel front shooter
[Nexus 6  General] eosman:
Er, with those specs I hope the device still retails for $349 for the 16gb and $399 for the 32gb model. I seen rumours of it being $499 which is still a good deal but it be nice it were $399 of course.
[Nexus 6  General] lvints:
Most of the rumors I've seen point to a screen of 5.2 ". Agree with you that 5.9" is very uncomfortable, especially for people with small hands like me. I suspect there will be two versions, one with 5.2 "and the the other with 5.9". Now it's wait and see.:p

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Android Lion? Cool name. :)

I thought the name would be Nexus X. The specs are interesting, but I think this is just a rumor:rolleyes:
[Nexus 6  General] issawillwin:
I really hope it will be tegra k1 instead of snap 805. They need a 64bit chip.
[Nexus 6  General] The Zel:
I also hope so, but I think it's going to be just for the next nexus tablet
[Nexus 6  General] LNJ:
Having owned both, the GS2 was superior is specs all the way except for the screen resolution!

The GNEX had crappy build quality and an even ****tier screen.

The GNEX was not based on the S2 at all. Exynos/Mali vs TI/Power VRX.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
See, I don't think the average consumer would agree. The Note 3 and Note 4 are both using 5.7" screens, and they're (by far) the best-selling devices from Samsung's line. Outside of people looking specifically for iPhones, people that see a huge screen want to buy it.

It sold like it was made of gold.
[Nexus 6  General] mudnightoil:
Not saying that K1 can't be decent, but all of NVIDIA's previous ARM efforts have been expensive, energy inefficient and low performing relative to the competition. The fact that they're now choosing to patent troll (and it is patent trolling) Samsung and Qualcomm instead of competing doesn't bode well for K1 either.

Would much rather it was Mediatek chip, to keep costs down and drive ROM & OS ports to MTK based Android hardware.
[Nexus 6  General] AntonyStark:
This is my point, if the phone is developed after that companies last phone it has better specs, the ones that are based on the flagship were basically developed the same time. The Galaxy nexus is a much better phone than the S2, I've used both, my mother has a S2 and bought a N7 just to use Apps nothing works on it now, games make the battery swell lol. I can Still use the GNex Now in fact I'm taking it to America Friday to use as it has the T-Mobile bands.

But back to the point, I think the Moto X is actually late, so it doesn't seem like there is much gap between it and the next Nexus, but there is so it will be a better specced phone.
[Nexus 6  General] giganielsie:
I'm actually very curious what a 64-bit chip would do better than a 32-bit chip. Anyone can explain it?
[Nexus 6  General] mudnightoil:
Eh, they sold very well for niche devices. But they're niche devices that had a practical monopoly on that market niche, and still sold a fraction of the SGS4 / 5.

64bit, not a lot in consumer devices. But ARMv8 (all current chips are v7) ISA, which includes the 64 bit extensions is massively more powerful and power efficient than v7, and so will the chips based on it be.
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
Mediatek??? Are you nuts??? There is no reason to use anything but Qualcomm.
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
I wouldn't say "no reason". There are reasons, it's just a benefits vs sacrifices, and currently Google/Motorola/whoever is in a fairly tricky position. And currently the most beneficial is likely the s805.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
The fact that mediatek doesn't release code is enough reason. Well they do but you have to pay up $$$. Screw Mediatek.
[Nexus 6  General] fkloznica:
Write meizu mx4 on youtube. Monster phone whit mtk 6595

www.mobiltelefon.ru/post_1409762156.html

Some pictures taken whit beta software..
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Yes put provide the source for Mediatek. You can't.

That's that.
[Nexus 6  General] fkloznica:
Maybe whit google android one program.. We will see.

Snapdragon is overpriced and hyped to the max
[Nexus 6  General] XeLLaR*:
Such ignorance. Much knowlege. Very developer.

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk 2
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
You do know Mediatek charges to release code right? And how is Snapdragon hyped to the max?

Why would google pay for something Snapdragon does for free? Also Mediatek is know for stopping support randomly. Why would google ever look in that direction?
[Nexus 6  General] fkloznica:
Time will tell.. :) but you can not hate mtk only because they are coming from China:)

Does Samsung release source code for exynos SoC ? But it is still a good chip. For me miles better than snapdragon.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
No time will not tell.

No one is hating on them because theyre from China. I just explained to you why no one likes them. SOURCE CODE

And as of 2012 exynos provides source

http://opensource.samsung.com/reception.do

Seriously stop dreaming about MediaTek. Its not going to happen.

Do some research first please.
[Nexus 6  General] mudnightoil:
Qualcomm release the source for a few things for their SoCs. Everything else either stays closed, unreleased or completely buried. They also reached their current position of market domination with some fairly shady practices that Intel would probably be really proud of. Their chips, now that they're practically a monopoly in most market segments ARE overpriced. Other problems with them are that all their chips have the baseband processor buried in the heart of the SoC and have full access to memory. Ask yourself why this is.

Mediatek previously weren't in enough phones to warrant opening their graphics drivers and other things, they no doubt will. They're also cheap and innovative, for such an upstart.

The market desperately needs competition and innovation, now that TI and ST-E (& Ericsson) have left the playing field, NVIDIA's chips have been a total failure so far, and Marvell seemingly not being able to win any big contracts despite being first to market with a number of innovations. AMD will hopefully shake things up significantly in the next couple of years.

Anyway, to those of you who think Qualcomm are some kind of heroes and there's no reason to use any other SoC ... I think you're delusional.
[Nexus 6  General] Citizen_Snips:
You guys catch the Apple keynote today? Google definitely has to step up big time with the new nexus lol.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Step up???

iOS added widgets..... They stepped up.
[Nexus 6  General] Citizen_Snips:
Spec wise, not on the OS end.
[Nexus 6  General] jayRokk:
Oh you mean fancy names that generally don't mean anything?

1Gig

Dual core

Same 8mp camera

Now a bigger phone which Apple mockingly talked about Samsung in their last keynote, said they would never upsize but now offer a 5.5 inch phone with the same specs as the 4.7 phone??

Or did you mean the same 16-32 storage with that ridiculous price tag for a 2 year lockdown?

Nah Google is fine. Believe me.

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[Nexus 6  General] Rohit02:
Hahahah..