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[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I've been buying phones off contract for a while now. But I've stayed in Verizon for unlimited data. I should move to an mvno to save more.

People don't get it but they pay the same amount over the time of the contract. Cool thing about the nexus 6 is you buy it and go to any carrier you like. Only the droid DNA let me do that before but i only got hspa on t mobile and att mvno.
[Nexus 6  General] acheney1990:
I'm planning on getting this device because I feel it has staying power and I'll be able to mod and play around with it at least for a year unlike others phones I get bored of. I prefer to buy it outright to avoid all the contract BS. I justify getting new tech more than other people because I don't spent my money on much else for myself, don't party or drink or anything. I really like the size actually. It is a bit awkward using to call but that's what I use my phone for the least. I also get questions from people because my current phone is 5.5 about the size but this doesn't bother me.
[Nexus 6  General] setspeed:
Amen to that. Always listening/touchless control is clearly the future. Although I love my N5, I'm ready to trade it in for the Moto X+1.
[Nexus 6  General] vfactor:
Lqqq
[Nexus 6  General] SAZE 94XO:
i love nexus devices, i don't buy other, only neXus
[Nexus 6  General] krystyuc:
Just one thing i wish for...a BATTERY!
[Nexus 6  General] adibeckett:
It's either this phone or the Oneplus One. Hopefully it's under $350 and has a bigger battery.

I'm tired of charging my current phone more than twice a day with moderate usage.
[Nexus 6  General] :
Based on the extra cost of so called "dev editions"....I doubt they'll be cheap. Tho I hope I'm wrong. ;)
[Nexus 6  General] vin4yak:
Badabadabadabada bummmmm!

HTC Nexus 9 specs leak alongside pricing info and first image :eek:

http://www.gsmarena.com/htcmade_nexus_9_tablet_leaks-news-8834.php

Wonder if the sources are legit. At least, Android Police thinks so.
[Nexus 6  General] DigitalUnderground:
nexus 5 isn't pure, unadulterated android... so to think the silver line would be preposterous.

just because it's called a nexus, doesn't mean its any less than a Google experience device without tw or sense frameworks baked in. the nexus 5 came with ZERO aosp apps... including the launcher. it did, however, come loaded and bloated with tons of Google apps... which would make it more of a Google experience.

don't get me wrong... I love it... it's just not a nexus like the galaxy nexus and older.
[Nexus 6  General] Lokke9191:
There will be a another nexus phone this year. It will not be announced at I/O. Expect to hear a lot about the self driving cars, and the new nexus tablet tho. Google won't kill off the nexus, it's the best thing to ever happen to phones.
[Nexus 6  General] stangy:
Hmm this is pretty underwhelming and $399??? I think the new samsung is next for me.
[Nexus 6  General] bitdomo:
I am a bit happy for nexus 9 will have tegra soc, because tegra devices were easy to unbrick even hardbricked devices with nvflash. I had a tegra 2 lg optimus 2x phone. Even if you wiped the whole emmc you could still recovery it. Same applies for the tegra 3 nexus 7 device. I am looking forward for this tegra k1 tablet. I hope nvidia keep they old habbit and makes the tegra k1 soc easly unbrickable like tegra 3 and tegra 2 devices.

Tapatalk-kal küldve az én Nexus 5-el
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
I just want a new version of android, I love my nexus 5 right now and if they discontinue nexus line of devices, I'll stick with this till it dies.
[Nexus 6  General] vin4yak:
Buy a few more.. May be try out the other colors and keep them stocked up? It will probably last you another 5+ years. LOL :D
[Nexus 6  General] Mnt-XDA:
Nexus 6 is my dream phone.... using N5 currently
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
I still have my galaxy nexus from '11 and it works just fine, going on 3 years now. I know plenty of people with iPhone 2G and 3Gs laying around and those are 6 & 7 years old and still work. Just tryna say you don't NEED a new phone every year, as long as you take care of it it'll last until its too outdated to run any thing fast.
[Nexus 6  General] BruKnowsBest:
i'll buy it if i can play Mario on it
[Nexus 6  General] bradputt:
Face it guys, there will be no nexus 6.

The last ever nexus will be the tablet.

Stop hoping for something that doesn't exist
[Nexus 6  General] matteventu:
IMHO this thread should be closed... there will be no more Nexus Phones.

100% confirmed by AndroidPolice.

If you want to discuss about next "Nexus", open a thread related to the Nexus 9 (HTC Volantis).
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
^we can still have hope tho ??
[Nexus 6  General] lolcopter:
Link?
[Nexus 6  General] dhruvmalik:
Here are some more.

http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014...nd-nexus-9-googles-shot-at-premium-flagships/

http://techcrunch.com/2014/10/21/hands-on-with-the-nexus-6-and-android-lollipop/
[Nexus 6  General] msavic6:
This is a great picture from the Ars Technica Hands On showing the size of the Nexus 6.

Despite the large difference in width on paper, it doesn't seem to make that much of a difference when placed side by side with the Note 4. The size seems quite manageable to me especially with the curved back and soft touch plastics.
[Nexus 6  General] msal:
*This is a repost from the color thread*

I just collected some of the pictures I could find online:

(There's a lot of pictures, so be warned when you click the spoilers below!)
[Nexus 6  General] jmkhenka:
Yeah but Imessage is FORCED on you. You have no choice in the matter on the iphone. And it asks *everyone* to register their number to make the imessage work without SMS, something hangouts arent doing.

If the default SMS-app on android was to make you opt-out from registering your number and also force all makers to use the same platform it would be usefull like imessage but right now, you will have to live with seperate sms and none-sms messages threads.

There is no way im going to force my GF or any of her friends to make a switch from default messages.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
See, I actually like the face recognition. It works really well in 5.0. Touch ID is nice as well, but I'm not sure how Google could add that to Android without getting sued by Apple now.

As for iMessage, it is a PITA to get rid of, and I'm glad we are not forced into something like it on Android.

My friend has an iPhone on an old AT&T plan with a limited number of text messages. He always complained because he would use texts to contact me, so I had him download hangouts. He likes it better than iMessage.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Just look at that AT&T bloatware.... Unbelievable
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
But technically people can just order from play store and use it on ATT. On contract you pay the same amount it's just spread over 2 years.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
I've seen many people refer to this "On contract you pay the same amount it's just spread out". I don't quite understand. Granted I'm on Verizon. I purchased my Note 2 for $199 from Verizon with a 2 year contract. I have no charges on my monthly bill related to this phone. If I had purchased it full price it would have been $699. Could you explain to me how I'm paying the extra $500 over two years? I just don't see it.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
It's hidden in your bill. You just don't notice it. I'm on Verizon and have 450 min, unlimited data, and unlimited text. I pay $90 a month for one phone. I've been off contract for over a year now. This was and is my price ever since I was on contract.

Let's look at an example. Now I don't know what plan you have because the new edge plans have that fee in there. But let's say the phone is $650 off contract. (n6 is).

If you subsidize the phone over 2 years the minimum you pay for per month on Verizon is $90 for unlimited talk and text and 2gb of data.

If you own the phone outright you get a single user plan for the same quality at $50 a month. Or got to an mvno of your choice and price.

That extra $40 a month x 24 months is $960. Take away $450 savings from subsidizing the phone and you pay $510 more. No contract obligation, can switch carriers , and no ETF.
[Nexus 6  General] tfly212:
I've had a VZW Note 2 for almost two years and will be giving the nexus 6 a hard look after seeing the videos. I liked the Xperia Z3 but Verizon tweaked it for the worse so that's out. For me I think it is down to the Note 4, Nexus 6 or Droid Turbo.

My only concern is the non-removable battery as I have grown accustomed to having a full days fallback always at the ready. Hopefully we will see some real world battery results soon.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
It was always there in the past. Nobody really talked about it until T-Mobile made the move to not subsidize phones anymore, and no contract. They now offer a structured payment plan instead.

Basically, on the old system, you were paying a subsidy in your monthly plan price, and it never went away. This is exactly why VZW would only let you upgrade every 2 years. They needed you to be locked into that two year deal so they got the rest of the money for the phone. If you kept the same phone for more than two years, you were basically screwing yourself.

Now, you can buy a phone on a payment plan or outright, not sign a contract, and have your bill less every month then it would have been in the old system.
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
I was talking about the note, it's infested with crap
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Yea on the new plans your bill goes down once you have paid the phone off. Or if you are on edge you are basically financing the phone and you see that in the $24.99 or whatever charge a month added to your phone bill, at 0% interest. Well I have many 0% interest credit cards and can do the same.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
I understand that if I buy the phone on the edge plan, my bill will go down by around $15 a month. (I currently have a 3GB plan, 2 lines, share everything.) But if I buy it on the play store, how will my bill go down? I still will pay my usual amount won't I? So aren't I better off just getting it subsidized or at least through Edge?

I'll actually call Verizon today and get their take on it too. Very much appreciate the help from you guys!
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
I'm confused. Your bill will go down when you buy a new phone? Sounds like you are getting ripped off currently.

I don't have VZW, ditched them months ago, so I don't know how their plans work.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Your bill goes down once the phone is paid off. If you buy a new phone you get that charge per month for the device added again. You are getting $15 discount because you share your data of 3gb. The share and edge plan also give discounts for devices you add. If it was just one phone you would not be getting a discount.

I was grandfathered into my plan and unlimited data and I know how the old plans worked but these new share and edge plans are a little different.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
When you buy a phone through Edge, you get a discount on your Data plan. I think it's around $15 a month on my plan.
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Right, and then you pay a monthly fee for the phone, for a certain number of months, correct?

What this is doing is removing the subsidy from your plan, and instead having you pay full price for the phone separately.

Like I said, I don't know VZW's plan structure, but I assume they have something where you bring your own phone, have no contract, and the plan is cheaper? Or is that what the edge plans are?
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Yea they do like I mentioned in the last post where I did the math. You can pay $50 with unlimited text and data and 2gb vs $90 or $100 with taxes for the same thing while subsidizing the phone.

Now they just moved to charging you a device fee and letting you upgrade as long as 60% of the phone is paid off..but again another device fee.

So if you keep the phone two years and then keep it after two years thats when the device fee goes away.
[Nexus 6  General] Jeimygirl:
Not always.

I've had Tmobile for 9+ years or so. For the past 6 years I've been paying $150 unlimited everything on 5 lines whether I got a subsidized phone or not. I've gotten about 20+ brand new "newest" phones out there and never paid extra. nothing was "hidden". I got my N5's from Google play, still pay $150 a month. It all depends on the plan you have, mine is all grandfathered so every time I got a new phone, nothing changed. and will only paid $0-$200 a phone TOTAL.

But as of about a year ago T-Mobile no longer does contract options for subsidized phones. So now I pay the same $150 and now have ot pay full cost for phones, whether up front or over 24 months.

No other company would ever be able to give me 5 branch new phones every 2 years and keep my bill st $150 for unlimited everything (internet isn't even throttled, ever)
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
As we have gone back an forth on in another thread, you have a special plan that is grandfathered. This is not available to people now.

Your best bet is always going to be buy the phone outright or on a payment plan. Otherwise, you will be paying a lot more monthly.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
So after talking to Verizon, If I bring my own phone, I get a $15 discount on my monthly plan. So calculating a 2 year deal, with the $699 64gb phone, as long as the phone, on subsadized contract with Verizon is under $340, it's a better deal for me to go that way.
[Nexus 6  General] desilla:
Another quick look at the nexus 6 as google announced their new INBOX app

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[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Yea which is what most people will do. I hate contracts and don't want to be locked into one. Either way you are paying the same amount or so no company is going to give you a $650 phone for $199 scot free.
[Nexus 6  General] VOLTAGEROCK:
I used my knuckle print on my friend's iphone and it worked perfect. So u can sure enough not use finger prints. Put it this way, any where you have skin that protrudes, u can use it!

I wish my n5 had the scanner. Now that the n6 does not, there goes another reason not to get it. Obviously the size is the biggest issue, pun intended or maybe the pun isn't intended....

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 6  General] Schoat333:
Just looking at the iPhone 6 for an example, you pay 0 down and $27 per month, on top of your $45 plan, for 24 months. that ends up being $648. Basically full price for the phone. I would expect the same for the Nexus 6, if you buy it through VZW.

The payment benefit is nice, but who knows when it will be available at VZW stores.
[Nexus 6  General] Xernoxis:
Why would you even buy it on contract if you don't save any money.. They lock you down for x years in exchange for some discount. At least here in Norway. You might get ripped off in the US, but here we can easily save 200$ by buying a 1 year contract. Yes I've done the math several times.

You need a plan if you buy it off contract too so why not just buy it together and save some money.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
I do save money by buying on contract. Depending on the price of the phone on contract, I'd probably save $50 over the life of the two year contract, or $2 per month. I'd rather be contract free at that point, in case something better comes along somewhere else.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Yea you are saving a few bucks on the data side. But since you have 2 lines anyway, you would have to continue paying the same amount until the second line was no longer subsidized. Otherwise that discount goes away. So I agree for you it would not make sense buying it off contract unless your second line is also no longer on contract.

In the end you are still paying full price for the phone itself if you are on the edge share plan, because of the device fee.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
another quick hands on

Google supersizes its marquee phone with the Nexu…: http://youtu.be/2RhkdFE3ao0
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Lol the nexsix 6 is what it sounds like she was saying.
[Nexus 6  General] donnyp1:
She is saying nex 66 lol
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
lmao Lynn La -_- wouldn't be awesome to have a "nex 666" [emoji48]
[Nexus 6  General] Coronado is dead:
I wonder how family plans play into all of this. I have an upgrade on my line (one of four), but could go individual like if it was cheaper.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Well on the new plans Verizon and att give family plans discounts on data and additional phones added. For example you stay on contract and pay the same amount and if you add another phone they up your data cap or they may just up your data if all of them are smart phones.

Going individual yourself you would just go with the $50 single plan for pay as you go or whatever else it costs if you want more than 2gb.

Your 3 other phones would still be in a family plan so they could still keep their family share data and that would just remove you as one of the additional devices charged for on the plan. But I would check because these new plans are confusing.
[Nexus 6  General] Coronado is dead:
Yeah, looks like it would be cheaper to just stay in the family plan if I still want 2GB of data. Thanks!
[Nexus 6  General] viniciusrsouza:
I really would like so much to see someone using it over a table, for example. I never used a curved back device and with all my Note phones I always catch me using it over the table texting something, browsing another thing, just as a phablet.

I imagine that probably it's a pain to type something when you are busy and just need to type something fast without picking the device from the table. That curved back probably makes it bounce left and right... =/

But I so sure my Galaxy Note days are almost over. Nexus 6 will be my next device, no matter how the back part is.
[Nexus 6  General] CyclingDev:
nexus 6 materials?

Do we have an idea what Nexus 6's exterior is made out of?
[Nexus 6  General] chrisjcks:
Soft touch plastic with a aluminium metal frame around the side.
[Nexus 6  General] CyclingDev:
Thanks!

Was hard to decide between Nexus 6 and the Note 4.... Went with the Note 4 because of the S-Pen!
[Nexus 6  General] hello00:
i went for the note 4 because it offers a lot more and have a beautiful screen :good:
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
for the people buying a note 4, why in the world would you support a company that is shamelessly encrypting the bootloaders in cahoots with the U.S carriers on all their devices

this is why we can't have nice things, have fun being stuck forever with a slow loaded with bloatware touchwiz, and slow updates from Samsung
[Nexus 6  General] Richieboy67:
I'm waiting to hear more about how I can use that big screen. Multi app support would be good otherwise I wouldn't switch from my g3.
[Nexus 6  General] dtroup64:
My dad used to say "Forever is a long time." Forever, in this case, is two years. I'm probably going to go with the Nexus 6, because I've never had a stock android phone, and this time around the specs are comparable. But the Note 4 is a beautiful phone, and it does everything I need a phone to do, better than almost any other device out there. "this is why we can't have nice things" is a little drastic.
[Nexus 6  General] Renosh:
Unfortunately the guys who go for the Note 4 are probably going to be very satisfied with their purchase. Guys who love custom ROMs with great dev support (working flawlessly), love stock Android aesthetics and want fast updates know that the Nexus is their best option. There's something for everyone that's the beauty of Android
[Nexus 6  General] Neverendingxsin:
At first I saw the size and thought "damn that's too big" but after watching the CS:GO FACEIT LAN Finals on my Nexus 5 today, I caught myself thinking "man it's time like this that I could really use a bigger screen" so now that I think about it i'll be fine with a 6inch screen.
[Nexus 6  General] cobyman7035:
i'd get the nexus 6 over the note 4 simply cuz its cheaper! if i was rich, note4, don't care for touchwiz or Spen tho

i'll just stick with my cheap nexus 5 and nexus 7 FHD lol
[Nexus 6  General] md1008:
T mobile has always had unlocked bootliaders on Samsung phones, Verizon has a developer model. I believe Sprint has their notes unlocked. Mainly just Att and big red.

I don't mind locked bootloader if its easy to unlock like HTC and Sony. Hell technically Nexus phones come locked, they are just easy to unlock
[Nexus 6  General] dazed1:
Hi guys, anyone know if one would be able to use, USA bought Nexus 6 in EU? thanks.
[Nexus 6  General] M.Noury:
GSM & WCDMA yes

LTE check your operator bands

North America:

GSM: 850/900/1800/1900MHz

CDMA Band Class: 0/1/10

WCDMA Bands: 1/2/4/5/8

LTE Bands: 2/3/4/5/7/12/13/17/25/26/29/41

CA DL Bands: B2-B13, B2-B17, B2-29, B4-B5, B4-B13, B4-B29
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
But how do you explain T-Mobile and Sprint Note 4s bootloader being unlocked if it is Samsung's fault?
[Nexus 6  General] dazed1:
I got this for LTE, 800 & 1800 mhz. Would it work 100%? thanks, i will post the 3g and similar stuff soon :)

found this also, GSM 900/1800...
[Nexus 6  General] Slicktune:
Check your email please, and thanks[emoji106]
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
Just responded, sorry for the delay.
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
they could do what HTC does and provide the unlock codes for the users who want it. The M8 on AT&T is lock down and still people were able to unlock it, the carriers are the main offenders specially the big 2, but there are ways to provide the consumers with the choice not to be locked out of your own phone

so, vote with your wallet and buy devices with unlockable bootloaders
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
Yeah but you are missing the point, u were asking why people support a company that doesn't provide unlocked bootloaders, its not Samsung fault it is the US carriers fault. Every Samsung device has an unlocked bootloader except AT&t and Verizon. Why blame Samsung then? Even if Samsung provides a tool to so that it is still on the carrier level. With HTC, it is HTC that locks the boot loader so that's why they are the one who can provide the unlock method. With Samsung, it is the carriers who choose to lock the boot loader and it is them who have the unlock method so why blame Samsung.
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
No, the blame still remains at the device manufacturer even per your comment. Why does HTC effectively negotiate boot lock schemes with carriers and Samsung can't?
[Nexus 6  General] barondebxl:
HTC Locks their bootloaders, Samsung unlocks them but Verizon and AT&T locks them. What is difficult to understand about this?
[Nexus 6  General] cbrehob:
Samsung bloats it's own phones down. Their hardware has always been awesome, but their software sucks. They also won't release bootloader anymore meaning you are stuck with their crap.
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
Does anyone know what delivery method Google uses? Will I need to sign for the package ?
[Nexus 6  General] baiju2012:
I just got my Nexus 5 from play store. I didn't have to sign. UPS just left it at the door.

Nexus V
[Nexus 6  General] selayan:
I live in an apartment and my neighbors are mostly elderly people. Usually the postman rings the bell and If I come down I get the package otherwise if it's an envelope they slide it in the mail tray on the door. I've had packages like brake pads left right at the door.

I'm just worried with this expensive device. I hope the package doesn't say nexus 6 on the box and they actually pack it in a brown box.

Did you use 2 day shipping? The prices seem fair enough. Seems ground is $7.99 and two day is $13.99 and if they offer next day it's 18.99.
[Nexus 6  General] baiju2012:
I used the cheapest shipping, which was $9.99 for me. It came in a brown box. Also, if you want to be sure, you can always change the delivery option with UPS and pickup at one of their local sorting centers.

Nexus V
[Nexus 6  General] sgloki77:
the manufacturer loads and encrypts the bootloaders , not the carriers if HTC can find a way to provide unlock codes, big ol' Sammy also can do it, come on now