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[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
It's not the phone makers, it's the trend. More and more people are buying these larger phones. I believe the note series is beginning to outsell the S series for Samsung so they are not going to ignore what makes them money. Once people stop buying gigantic phones, then maybe the trend will reverse. It seems for everyone person who says phones are too big, there are 15 people who want a larger phone. I personally have myself maxxed out at the LG G3 size. I want a larger screen in a smaller body. That's one of the reasons why I gave up on the OPO. Too big. 5.5" in a small phone is my max. 5-5.2 is ideal.
[Nexus 6  General] :
I've yet to encounter anyone in real life that doesn't think phones are too big. So I ask why did you buy an S5 then. And they usually say what choice did I have. Lol Most think it's apple or Samsung.

That's been my experience anyway. Oh... And most of the people we know have iPhone or a big ole new Samsung. Then they see my wifes Moto X and say they wish they saw that one.

To each their own.... But I'll never walk around with a phablet, I know that. :)
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
You'd have to think that with Moto making the nexus that they would have at least a moto feature in the phone.

Galaxy Nexus had the samsung amoled panels in them

LG N4 had the glass back

LG N5 had the OIS camera

Moto N6 ??? touchless control or active display embedded into Android L? We already know that Android L has done away with screen lock widgets so do they replace it with something Moto like? We already know Google wants to eventually have always listening on so is touchless control next to be integrated? I can't think of a hardware feature that Moto has that google would want featured in their next nexus. Thoughts?

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I'm with you on not carrying around a phablet. That's what my tablet is for!!
[Nexus 6  General] hotleadsingerguy:
Except that it's also expected that Apple will be releasing a larger iPhone (in the 5.5+ neighborhood), as well.

Like others have said...it's not the manufacturers that are pushing for it. Every time a manufacturer comes out with a bigger phone, it sells like it makes diamonds. When Samsung came out with the Note line, it sold better than their S line (despite having pretty much the same specs but with a much bigger screen and a bigger battery). People *want* bigger phones, no matter what they say.

How do I know? Go into an AT&T or Verizon store and just watch people come in looking to buy a phone. Every time I've been sitting in line waiting for my turn, I see people come in and either go directly to the Apple kiosk or go directly to the biggest phone in the building. People want a huge display, and I can't blame them.

Honestly, I'd be totally happy if the Nexus 6 or Moto X+1 (assuming they're different models, but who knows) were 5.5-5.9". If they're both around 5" there's a chance I might head toward the Note 4. I don't care much about customization anymore...I just want a rock-solid OS, good battery life, a great display, and the ability to put Google Search on as my main launcher (which is possible for anything now). I can deal with the rest.
[Nexus 6  General] :
But I bet there's an iPhone model closer to 5" or less.

Anyway... Surgeons will be laughing soon when we all need to have our hands surgically made bigger and Men will start needing purses to carry their phones. ;)

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Anyway... I went from the X, to the N5 and now M8. The M8 is the largest phone I will ever own. :)
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
So I guess not.
[Nexus 6  General] Elluel:
I have a Note 3 and it's a terrible size compared to the Nexus 5 lol.. Played with an M8 for a week before, it's okay but I'm not a big fan of Sense :p

Maybe "Nexus 7 (2016)" will be a 7 inch "phone" :mad:
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
That's why I think they would go software this time around especially since they bought Motorola for their patents which turned out to be a money losing venture but doesn't mean they wouldn't somehow implement their tech. Just seems to convenient that after the sale of Motorola to lenovo that Motorola is making the next nexus.
[Nexus 6  General] Mindspin_311:
Send an invite my way? Not sure if I trust Aliexpress. How can they have them if its invite only?

EDIT: I wish there was a way to get my hands on one to see if I like the size compared to the N5.
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
They bought the patents as protection. They wouldn't need a motorola handset to implement any new features either.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
...and to hopefully get some payout from Microsoft for the patents but that didn't pan out too well. MS was fined a fraction of what Motorola was asking for. After some quick research it looks like the voice recognition on the touchless control is powered by Nuance. So I guess if we hear some news about Google and Nuance, I guess I shouldn't expect touchless control in the Moto Nexus :(. :(
[Nexus 6  General] danarama:
Expect nothing, best advice.

At worst expect a handset with essentially AOSP on it.
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
If I had no expectations I'd be over at the moto e forums haha. I don't expect but I can hope.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I agree.

So I bought an OPO for my son as he has big hands big pockets small budget, and it was showed around. Without even turning the screen on or talking about specifications over 90% of people said they simply would not buy a phone that big. I got OPO invites plenty and am having to give them to strangers in forums as none I know personally want one. The last one I encountered was the salesman in the local AT&T store.

So here's the problem - I love the N5 and its only flaws are really implicit due to its size. I don't want a physically bigger device but seems I must to get more battery life as bigger battery needs to be in a bigger phone so then the designer thinks "why not" make a bigger screen too.

I moved up from a non-smartphone to Nexus 4, which was a good phone, then N5 which I thought the biggest I'd ever want, I bought the OPO thinking probably I'd be able to adapt to the bigger size but after 2 weeks of attemping to adapt I still think N5 is the right size, and >90% of real people I meet agree. Only in forums do I encounter people who want bigger than 5" phone.

Is the issue the limit of technology, to get more technology in a phone we must get a bigger phone?

I want a N5 but my wife took it as the cheapest way to add a decent phone is OPO which I'm "stuck with". Waiting for N5 price drop then sell my OPO possibly.

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So you can cut out cardboard and draw the screen on to simulate, I seen a few cardboard mock-ups pocking out of pockets.

The issue is really one handed trying to use all the screen, when you go beyond a certain width you can't actually grasp the phone and then when beyond a certain height you can't one-handed actually touch the opposite corners. Hence bigger than N5 is down to those with long fingers and/or those who use the phone 2-handed. If you're going to two-handed might as well use a tablet.

According to glove makers my hands are average size, see my video

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zawlH3-j70A
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
is TheEpochTimes.com legit?

I haven't been able to listen to the video yet, just watched it.

Potentially good (and odd considering the naming scheme) news for Verizon customers like myself.

http://m.theepochtimes.com/n3/87693...orola-shamu-screen-size-other-details-leaked/

and nexus 5 deal on eBay points to N6 coming kinda soon?:

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/08/15/nexus-5-deal/
[Nexus 6  General] adibeckett:
Personal anecdote time:

Me: Oneplus One - 5.5 inches. Probably my limit for size.

Dad: Sony Xperia Z Ultra - 6.4 inches!!

Uncle: Samsung Note 3 - 5.7 inches

2 Family Friend's: Samsung Note 2 - 5.5 inches

Note: All the above except me are over the age of 55. I guess it's all about the eyes.
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
Not only eyes but what do you do with it. It's one thing to just play with and entirely another to do work. My employer just switched to iphone5c's and the touchscreen keyboard has almost worthless keypad discrimination.
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Interesting take on the "Verizon" nexus 6:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Moto...-an-Android-Silver-device-for-Verizon_id59425

TLDR:

Might not be a nexus device, but an android silver device instead.

Might be a Verizon exclusive.

Screen size debate? May still be 5.9?

I doubt its an Android silver device though. EVLeaks said February 2015 lg would make first android silver device. Plus I'd think they'd have a larger MP camera for an android silver device, 16mp probably.

Any thoughts guys?
[Nexus 6  General] skinzy98:
Just curious as to if anybody remembers there being TWO codenames when the nexus 9 rumors started. It was volantis and something else found in the same report page which tells me two different devices. Maybe were getting ahead of ourselves and it won't be 5.9 or maybe its being made by someone else and they have us tricked

clean installs are love. clean installs are life
[Nexus 6  General] gsmyth:
Think it was 'Flounder', in keeping with the fish name based code names.
[Nexus 6  General] skinzy98:
Also curious if anybody noticed this when the Google io 2014 website launched.

clean installs are love. clean installs are life
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
I remember that. Is it a 5.9" display or something? haha
[Nexus 6  General] skinzy98:
No I just remembered how there had been speculation about the HTC nexus 8 or 9 and well my earlier point sorta got me on the point. Oops. By the way a "Motorola s" guard for Verizon was just leaked and supposedly it looks like a 5.9 speculation or nah?

clean installs are love. clean installs are life
[Nexus 6  General] spinninbsod:
I probably will get a nexus 6 just because I'm not so sure the nexus 5 will last very long who knows I might be wrong
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Just curious, why don't you think it will last long? build quality?
[Nexus 6  General] spinninbsod:
No I have been seeing a lot of bad emmc cases on here hold quality on the nexus 5 isn't bad a little better than a Samsung device, and power buttons going bad on the nexus 5 seem to be a problem and of course Google creating more bugs than what they're fixing
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
So is the eMMC the RAM? I was trying to look it up, found a lot on the topic of Samsung phones, But none that adequately described how they were ruined or what exactly it was...

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Oh, and just came across these (not reputable):

http://zeenews.india.com/business/g...leaked-to-be-produced-by-motorola_106294.html

http://www.inferse.com/16819/google-nexus-6-release-date-rumored-october-31st/

NEVER heard of the websites before, so take it with a complete grain of salt. Could be them guessing too, since previous launches point to around the same time.

IF it is really on the October 31 again it may imply that they'll pull another "Kit-Kat" naming scheme, like Laffy Taffy, Lifesavers, etc. Is LolliPop a brand name?
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
^or LSD... :D :cool:
[Nexus 6  General] spinninbsod:
No its the internal storage
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Not really, as that same deal was out in May, when I bought my N5 some 6 months after the N5 was announced at a 14% discount.

It's not really that big a discount.
[Nexus 6  General] sandeep.kodeti:
A 5.2 inch screen with 1080p (no 2k display for affordable price) .snapdragon 805 or 801 processor and a 3 GB of ram...no expandable memory..but there will a option for 64gb storage option and a 13MP exmor Sony lens and white and black color option and surely a 3000mh battery

keep calm and have nexus
[Nexus 6  General] Giolte_:
In you opinion when is better to sell the Nexus 5 to gain money for the Nexus 6?

One month before the launch or more?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The earlier you sell the N5 the more money you will get.

The later the N6 you buy the more probability you will get it cheaper.

How long can you cope with without either N5 or N6?
[Nexus 6  General] Giolte_:
I don't know... something like one month I think.

Mmm.. there are some official news about the launch and the price?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
No. Absolutely nothing. The only thing said recently was LG said they were not currently involved in a new Nexus and that Google said they had not cancelled Nexus.

No specifications, dates, prices.

Speculation and theory exists which is easy and free to make!
[Nexus 6  General] Giolte_:
Yes, I heard about LG, some rumors says that Motorola can do the Nexus 6... who knows O:

When the Nexus 5 was officially announced?
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
https://www.google.com/#q=when+was+nexus+5+announced

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_5

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nexus_5#Release

"The Nexus 5 was initially released for ordering at Google Play Store on 31 October 2013, in 16 GB and 32 GB versions.[12]"

These computers we have are wonderful, you might consider getting one and using it?
[Nexus 6  General] Giolte_:
Oh, I thought that it was announced before the launch..
[Nexus 6  General] gsmyth:
^ all of this please [emoji3]

Especially the option for 64GB, as 32Gb is fine but 16 doesn't really cut it anymore. Also with affordable high end devices like the one plus one there should be no reason for not offering it. And the bigger battery too, again look at the OPO, there's a lot of good feedback about battery life.
[Nexus 6  General] moldovanos:
So lenovo bought Motorola and since Shamu with 6'' screen should be the Nexus 6, I came to a conclusion that Lenovo Z2 PRO VIBE will be the Next Nexus, but maybe with slightly lower specs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LwmvrHgFHdk
[Nexus 6  General] radicalisto:
It's only invite only outside of China. In China you don't need an invite. Plus 100s of people on xda (check the oneplusone forum here) have ordered without issue. Aliexpress has been around long enough.
[Nexus 6  General] twochinz:
Are they still calling it nexus? I remember seeing something about gold and silver, someone can correct me.
[Nexus 6  General] gnarlycs:
I will only buy it if it has OLED display. I'm sick of IPS/LCD
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
just curious as to why?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion for sure, but coming from an OLED display I honestly miss my old LCD display
[Nexus 6  General] gnarlycs:
colors more vibrant? blacks actually black? less battery consumption because power only pixels you're currently using. being able to switch focus from screen to something in a pitch black room
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
black blacks are nice. My OLED screen seemed too warm (yellows and reds) compared to what it should be. Plus the burn in is terrible.

Most of what I do on my screen has a white-ish background, which OLED is less efficient on than LED. Havent noticed needing to switch focus
[Nexus 6  General] _MetalHead_:
I know the feeling. I LOVE the amoled display on my Moto X.
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
Someone knows what will be the type of screen in the nexus 6? If its super amoled I won't buy it and I don't want to wait so long and then be disappointed.

Thanks.
[Nexus 6  General] akelino01:
Nexus6 would be full of awesomeness! Waiting for it! :)
[Nexus 6  General] biggiestuff:
If i had to make an educated guess, it would be amoled. Made by Moto and based off moto x which uses amoled. I wouldn't bet anything on it.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Surely given the love/hate on AMOLED you'd put one in the Moto X+1 being released next month (launched 4th, available 12th I think) and the other in the Nexus 6 announced October 30th.
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
I hate amoled, I hope the N6 will have LCD IPS display.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I think N6 will be LCD IPS just to balance out the Moto X+1 AMOLED so Google covers all types.

" Moto X+1 (X2) will have a full-HD (1920x1080) AMOLED display, 2GB of RAM, a better camera, and come with 16-, 32- or 64GB of storage."
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Im thinking IPS LCD just to cut cost a bit. I think they're cheaper right?
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
Cheaper and better.
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
My opinion too :p

I didn't care for the GS3 AMOLED screen I had
[Nexus 6  General] TiltedAz:
Yes, I'm not sure what there is to be excited about with amoled displays. I disliked my galaxy nexus display. And I would never buy a Moto X with it's 1280x720 display.
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
Amoled also get screen burn in after a few months, it happened to me with the first galaxy note and with the gs3.
[Nexus 6  General] eshopper:
And not saturated too :p

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 6  General] cipsaz:
Hope its not made by the LG. The quality went down after the N4.
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
Really? I thought it went way up!
[Nexus 6  General] M.Noury:
I have N5 from the fist batch and its perfect
[Nexus 6  General] cipsaz:
My first batch N5 wasn't like that. Cracking speaker, sharp corners, very slippery in hand, showed signs of wear after weeks (poor plastic). I didn't have these issues with the N4.
[Nexus 6  General] M.Noury:
Also two of my friends have from the first batch and they don't have any issue
[Nexus 6  General] cornelious2:
Mine was first batch and still going strong.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
http://www.bgr.in/manufacturers/mot...ka-nexus-6-spotted-on-indian-import-manifest/

sent from my OnePlusOne
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
Interesting! Does that mean it may really be the Nexus 6 and not Verizon exclusive Moto S?

Verizon isn't in India at all right?

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mobile_network_operators_of_India

And possible price of whatever device that is is about $578.79 USD if you convert from INR :(

http://wccftech.com/motorola-shamu-aka-nexus-6-price-leaked-cheap-folks/
[Nexus 6  General] kilowatt95:
First batch N5 here and no issues...besides the time I dropped it on cement and cracked the screen but that was totally my fault.

Anyway I'm excited to see what this N6 will offer. Hope it's a 5.2in screen and not a 6in one. I'd like to see a better battery...seriously, battery life seems to be the Achilles heel of the Nexus series.

As much as I dislike AMOLED displays (I owned a s3 i9305) unfortunately I think that the n6 is gonna come with one...if the rumors of moto including their touchless controls are true. Then again maybe not...the N5 was based off the g2 and didn't have Dt2w (afaik at the time a g2 exclusive feature), so maybe we will see n6 with an IPS display just like the N5. And I hope so since I really like the N5's screen.

Just my 2c...throwing it out there :)
[Nexus 6  General] galaxys:
5.9 is the odds on favorite size! :D :p :rolleyes:
[Nexus 6  General] peppin96:
Hope in 5.2" screen
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
It will sell better the smaller the screen. 5.2 is pushing it.

sent from my OnePlusOne
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
5.5" will be the best size
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
The bigger the fewer who will want it. Got 5.5 on my OPO and really the N5 is as big a phone should be.

Not my opinion but that of over 90% of people I ask.

The larger phones suit a minority and they tend to be in forums more.

5.2 is pushing it.

sent from my OnePlusOne
[Nexus 6  General] XdrummerXboy:
I want a 5.5", but I think you are absolutely correct. I remember when the original note was out (5.2" I think?) most people thought even THAT was far too large.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
Some of this is just getting accustomed, but there are two very real problems which can't be fixed by simply getting accustomed.

one handed operation becomes impossible for most people at 5" never mind 5.5" and so either only longer-fingered or those who don't need 1-handed use aren't bothered. One handed matters for most people as they like to have use of other hand for doors, drinks, bags, etc. So 5.5 say bye-bye to say texting whilst walking with an umbrella and dozen other examples.

Pocket size, which depends on your body size and the clothing you have. My OPO falls out of pocket sat down more than did the N5.

(minor) the bigger the phone the heavier the case needed to encase it so as most people put in a case it becomes heavier even if the phone isn't.

My daughter likes N4, my wife will tolerate the size of the N5 but prefers the N4, my son prefers the OPO I prefer the N5. My neighbor (guy) prefers OPO but his wife flatly refuses the OPO size.

Given what Nexus is meant to do which is a reference for Android, if they make only a large screen then they can't really debug small screen issues.
[Nexus 6  General] farangutan:
If I could put the battery life of the opo in the n5 I would have stayed with the n5. I thought I had pretty good battery life before but I came from the galaxy nexus, everything is better than the galaxy nexus. Lol.
[Nexus 6  General] Köhvwezd:
I think I won't think anything until there is something solid about it, not just rumors. I'm quite interested though, how often are rumors about Android phones in general right about a device?
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
I would be disappointed if the N6 won't have 2K display.
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
What's the big deal with 2k??) I mean the nexus 5 has a 441ppi display, for a 5" smartphone, its pretty much impossible to tell the difference between 441 and 538ppi. And it costs a lot more to make. Just cause the numbers bigger doesn't really make it any better.

Do you think in 10 years we will absolutely have to have 8k smart phones with 1000+ PPI screens?
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
i dont have the nexus 5 but i have the nexus 7 2013 and the screen is great but when i come close to the screen i can't see individual pixels but i can see the edges of the text and with 2k you just can't see that.

i think 2k is the highest resolution you need for a tablet or a phone, 1080p is also good but 2k is the best, and i dont think we need 4k or 8k, i just think 2k is the maximun that our eyes can notice on a mobile device screen.
[Nexus 6  General] IRX120:
I agree that 2k it OK for devices bigger than 6.5" or so, but on 4.7-5.5" displays it just feels like a marketing ploy too me. But I have never used a 2k display so maybe if I saw one I would fall in love with them.
[Nexus 6  General] marcelfbaur:
Octacore is not really necessary, the most important improvement is a larger battery!
[Nexus 6  General] zujko:
Rather, put a larger battery (3000mAh) and better camera (like lumia 930)

My specs..

5.2" 1080p (amoled dispaly)

SoC 805 (dream 810:) )

3gb

13mpx (perhaps slightly larger sensor)

Louder speaker

32gb

And better battery 3000mAh!
[Nexus 6  General] ortori:
why do you want amoled display? i have the first galaxy note and now i have the galaxy s3 and both have screen burn in, this is very annoying.
[Nexus 6  General] nigelhealy:
I'd possibly buy that. You're in charge!. Price is the key question. I also think a 32GB/64GB choice. 32GB is enough but if $50 more for 64GB I'd get that just for less hassle thinking about storage. Own OPO 64GB.

Concern is the OPO is $360 delivered for 64GB. Nexus 6..... dread to think. For me to buy it, given I bought 3 OPO for everyone here who wanted one, the N6 has to be like a $299 for 32GB and $350 for 64GB and even then for us in Calfornia, it sucks to then pay about $400 delivered for 64GB but I doubt Google will help that problem, so then waiting for it outside of Google Play which takes months. My N5 came from NY.

I really want N5 size really, the bigger it is the less attractive given my only real gripe of OPO is its size.

Guess what, I'd probably buy a N5 32GB for $250, at the price it will drop to when the N6 happens. N5 is perfect apart from issues which are easily fixed.
[Nexus 6  General] peachpuff:
You do realize 1080p is 2k(almost 2000 pixels across) right? There really isn't a K designation for 1440p, you could say 2.5k but its just stupid.
[Nexus 6  General] XeLLaR*:
What do you guys think? :)