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[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Exfex21:
Yeah I got the original jump. Truth is I was going for the S5 since day one, no 32 gb option as of yet and my HTC curiosity might make me change my mind after all. I am coming from a note 3 and sure its a great phone but I often find myself bored with it...
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] chrisram88:
Every phone gets boring after a while. Same with anything else. Once you see the latest and greatest your 6 month old phone looks like **** Lol.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] cashyftw:
So I'm just going to get the m8, and then sell the iPhone within the same day hopefully.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wschamps42:
Not really because you couldnt "Jump" before 6 months, its exactly the same if you were to upgrade a month and pay the difference to total up to half or in or 6 months where half the phone could be almost paid off (depending on the installments). I'd rather have the option to upgrade whenever than wait 6 months. Like in my situation, I just switched to T-Mo in feb and got the Z1s now I'm getting the M8 tomorrow and don't have to worry about waiting. Plus tomorrows pay day ;)
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] AnDruid:
I believe most installment plans are 24 months, so if one is able to get the phone at zero down, the 6 months version of Jump was better for them. That is, if one is ok waiting the six months.

Personally if I have to pay half the cost of the phone just to use it for six months, I would just buy it outright and sell when I feel I am done (whether 4 months or 18). The cost of Jump is extra from phone instalments, so ...
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] EmceeGeek:
I'm not able to jump until the 27th because they sent my iPhone 5s out so late.

Sent from the Nexus
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] epsix:
Since last year I have join JUMP program since it introduced. Since then I have purchase 2 phone at full retail price SG4 and Sony z1s. Do I need to exchange my old phone to use JUMP program? If yes can I use my old htc sensation?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jayr04:
I just called a third store to be my plan b and they told me they will not sell the M8 until Saturday but the S5 will be available tomorrow. I didn't even mention the S5. Wtf?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] chrisram88:
Phones are yours. Don't need to use another to jump. Just walk in and get new phone you like. If you get new phone thru eip then next time around you will have to return it given you still owe money on it if ya like.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Tidbits:
After the first 6 months it's 2 upgrades per year under the old one. You could upgrade then upgrade 2 months later, but then you couldn't jump 1 year later(1 year after your first jump).

I will use myself as an example. I jumped from the Z to the Z1S(January), and I am planning to jump to the M8(April). I won't be able to jump until January next year.

The original one is better for those who have $0 down. The newer one was to balance it out and make it fair, and keep T-Mobile from losing too much money on the jumps.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] eterno13:
Question...im need to return to stock system my phone if I gonna do a jump?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Jfree3000:
I would just in case, some reps know about rooting and don't care and some will give you a hard time.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Tidbits:
Yes jic they check.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] eterno13:
Some one who have an s4 can tell me where is a stock rom?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jeevan000:
U can find ur stock rom on sam mobile website... it has all samsung stock roms

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Current Device-Galaxy Grand running GenNxt ROM
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fryingpan0613:
I'm probably going to use jump to ditch my note 3 for the one. I'm on the old jump, do you stay on the old jump after upgrading?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] hawaiianboi:
I am on the old jump as well and also traded in my Note 3 for the M8 earlier today. My rep advised that I will be staying on the old jump program after trading in my phone.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fryingpan0613:
How are you liking it so far compared to your note 3?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] hawaiianboi:
I love it! Definitely easier to use the phone one handed, especially with messaging. Now that I don't feel as nervous as dropping something as big as a note 3, I decided to not go with an Otterbox so I have a clear TPU case which shows off the phone so much more better! Definitely no regrets on making this change!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] cashyftw:
I love this phone so far, so fast
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Erazo1986:
I got the m8 and handed my note 3 to my girl to use. I love the overall feel of the phone and the speakers. I don't miss touchwiz at all.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Nvrenough:
Jumped from note 3. Happy so far
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] No_Nickname90:
I'm more than content with the HTC One M8. I used my jump from the HTC One M7. It's funny. I had that phone for a year and 1 month. LoL!!

I got Jump before, so I have the twice a year Jump. So if I jump once a year, it won't matter. Lovely. This works out SO perfect for me.

*patiently waiting for the HTC G3*
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] pinoycrusader:
You mean LG G3?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] No_Nickname90:
I mean HTC G3. =.P

They need to make a new version of this phone.

http://scm-l3.technorati.com/10/08/20/16611/t-mobile-g2-itw-2-04.jpg
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] eterno13:
My wife note 2 have a small crack on the screen..it happen with out drop it...this phone qualified for jump?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jayr04:
I believe so. It doesn't even have to turn on.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] chrisram88:
Might not. It depends on the associate you get if he let's it slide.

Actually it does. They turn it on. Check imei matches and any physical or water damage.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jayr04:
Nvm what I said. You can only trade in a broken phone if you do the things where you switch from another carrier and they pay your etf
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fryingpan0613:
Did they want anything besides the phone when you did jump? I would rather keep my Note 3 charger if I can, its a 2 amp charger just gotta use a different usb cable then what came with it
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] altimax98:
I've done three Jumps on my lines and you keep everything except the battery and phone
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Crazysah:
How soon after I get Jump can I switch phones?

What if I've already paid off my phone completely and am on a prepaid plan?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Erazo1986:
If you paid off your phone I suggest you either keep it or sell it and pay the difference. Otherwise they will give you a trade in credit based on what phone you are trading. I say sell it privately because 9 times out of 10 you will always get more selling than trading, just my two cents.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Crazysah:
And where do you recommend is the best place to sell it? It's a brand new phone. Not even one month of usage.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Erazo1986:
Swappa or craigslist.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Crazysah:
Have you had luck with Swappa? I've had moderate luck with craigslist.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Erazo1986:
What phone is it again?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Crazysah:
Galaxy Nexus 5 from T-Mobile.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Erazo1986:
I would try craigslist , if all fails try swappa or eBay. I heard swappa is a good place to sell or trade phones but I have not personally tried it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] chrisram88:
Swappa is great. Just remember they take 10 bucks and you deal with pay pal and their fees as well. Don't forget shipping price.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] BlueCrystal:
On the old Jump plan like I was on:

You have to wait 6 months to jump first, then you can jump any time after that. Once you've gotten that phone, you have to wait 6 months again. I got the Note 3 when I signed up for Jump, so my 6 months ended right when the M8 came out, so if the Note 4 came out tomorrow, I could get it tomorrow, but if something else came out after, I'd have to wait six months. You also pay the full device tax up front, which is about 48bux. You can also only jump twice a year, as opposed to the new Jump plan. However, everything left on the EIP from the phone is completely removed, regardless of the phone value. If you crack your screen or something, you may be forced to pay your insurance deductible to Jump, as someone got caught on that when I was at the T-Mo store on release day. You still have to trade your phone in to T-Mo or completely pay it off to do the next Jump. I just trade my old one in since Jump includes insurance and who needs the old phone. Like the new Jump, you have to be trading in your old device in order to Jump for the EIP to be nulled out. If you aren't you'll be on the hook for the remaining value.

On the new Jump plan:

You can Jump any time you want, you turn your phone in and T-Mo will pay UP to off half of the value of the phone, leaving you with the other half. You also pay the new device's full price of taxes upfront, so $48 in the case of the M8 for me. So in the case of the M8, I believe it's $636 without taxes. T-Mobile will pay $318 at most, leaving the other 318 to you (or more). As an example of my payments, I pay 26.50 a month for the phone for 24 months. That means in 12 months you would have hit half of the device price when you bought it, and you could jump at that point if you didn't want to pay the rest of it off at the time of the Jump. You could pay it off early and Jump as well, but if you sell it you end up responsible for all remaining payments as you aren't trading anything in, just like on the old plan

Both plans have their positives and negatives, but tl;dr

Old Jump: Jump twice a year, once after 6 months, once whenever, all remaining EIP payments nuked, you won't be forced to switch to the new Jump plan.

New Jump: Jump as many times a year as you want, but you're on the hook for at least half of the devices value at purchase.

Both: You have to trade your old phone in for your new one and you pay the full device taxes up front.

Hopefully that explains everything and wasn't too long and boring. I had it all explained at the store when I did my first 6 month Jump.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Tidbits:
No you don't have to wait 6 months between jumps on the old one. I jumped from the Z to the Z1S and now the One. My other line went from the G2 to Flex and S5. BOTH my lines can't jump until the date of the first jump add a year. So January and February next year.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Nippero:
Definitely had to wait 6 months on the old JUMP plan.. At least I'm pretty positive those were the terms.

On the new plan, we have to wait until our current phone is 50% paid off.

To me.. its kinda the same, because when I got my M7 I had to put 200 down. So by the time I swapped it, I only had $300 left on that phone's EIP. I think full retail for the phone was $579? or $620? so yea, either way it was the same as waiting until 50% was paid off.

It makes sense that T-Mobile changed their terms, because they basically have $0 down on all of their phones now (unless you have terrible credit I believe).
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] johnomaz:
I used JUMP at exactly 6 months since I got my Note 3. Like, to the day. I got the M8. They did the upgrade, i paid no extra and walked out with my phone after signing the necessary stuff. They never even turned on my Note 3. I told them I did a reset (which I did) and that was it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] yeahdat:
On the old Jump wait 6 months and you can jump twice in a year. Do NOT have to wait 6 months after the first jump to jump again. On the new Jump as long as half of device is paid off you can jump. You have to trade in you old phone on both jump plans. So if you have the first jump plan and you get 0 down that's the best option if you have jump 2 then as long as u don't mind paying off half the device or you don't mind waiting a year to jump then that's all good too. I work for T-Mobile and so far jump is a great thing to have if u want a phone at least once a year. If the IMEI don't match or if there is water damage or crack screen you have to pay deductible and the down payment upfront to jump. If you don't qualify for 0 down the you are almost paying half the device off upfront so that can be a good way to look at it if you want to jump and u have jump2.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Tidbits:
What the guy above me said. After the initial 6 month wait you don't have to wait between jumps unless you used your two jumps. Then you have to wait until a year after your first jump.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Pr20:
I am not sold on Jump. If you keep your phone in good condition and sell it on swappa.com or craigslist (granted 2 big ifs) it will be cheaper than jump.

For example in my situation, if I got htc one m8 today and signed up for jump and in say 6 months wanted to get Note 4, I would have paid 60+159+remaining 159= 378. Now if I was not in jump and sold it for about 400$ (reasonable loss of 236$) I would pay 236, a difference of 142$.

As I said though you have to keep it in good condition and be willing to sell it on swappa or Craigslist.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] evodon84:
Many people have done the math on Jump as to whether or not it is worth it vs. not having Jump. The original Jump plan is better than the new Jump plan. Also if you are someone who would be paying for insurance on your phone the first Jump plan really makes good sense.

Although with T-Mobile's device payment plans and no contract extensions they make it easier to switch between phones if you are comfortable selling on your own.

I prefer Celltraderonline.com to sell my devices however I am on the old Jump plan now. I may get a second phone through T-Mobile on device payment plan and sell it later when I Jump with my first phone.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] BlueCrystal:
From the way the rep explained it, you have to wait every other jump for six months. Maybe there were 3 revisions?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] marcoxx626:
Just jumped from the note3. No regrets.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fryingpan0613:
Yea I did yesterday, it's funny that with Samsung phones I always rushed to root so I could change stuff, but I'm still enjoying stock on this.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] marcoxx626:
Same here man!! I needed something new after having the s3 , s4 and note 3. This is definitely something refreshing. No rush to root yet, just slowly reading up since I'm not familiar with rooting HTC phones
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fryingpan0613:
My android phone line up has been in this order: HTC evo, Samsung Epic (s1), HTC evo3d, Samsung Epic touch (s2), note 2, note 3, now this.

I got bored of touchwiz and got tired of the pointless features and bloat. Samsung Is headed in the wrong direction with Knox and locking Down the phones more.

Once I read about this phone and the fact that they brought back the Sd card I was happy and decided to come back to my sense (pun intended). I'm in love with this phone. I'm not sure if I'm going to make Lab Rats Rom for it tho.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] marcoxx626:
Yeah tw got boring and just repetitive. Just sucks having to learn all this new HTC terminology on xda lol
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fryingpan0613:
Try it from the developer side lol I'm sure I'll have to start from scratch with learning. I'm still scratching my head on s-off. If you can root and flash roms,I don't see why people are upset they can't do it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] marcoxx626:
Same boat as you man...and yeah I could imagine deving for a new device lol. Hopefully I figure out how to root this thing by tonight ...
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] nsuviolin2005:
If my observation is an indication, I'm doubtful of how much success the M8 would see on T-Mobile. I was actually somewhat put off at the blatant favoritism shown toward the S5 by T-Mobile when I went to switch to their service from Sprint and get my One -- S5 ads all over the store, and the sales people were even wearing S5 shirts...nothing more than a small display area for the M8. And the person helping me said they only got 5 M8's that day and I got the last one.

Funny thing was, a couple of the employees were checking out the M8 as she was helping me set it up and they said they actually liked it better than the S5...shocking. :P
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
Samsung pays for all that marketing support, so, its easy to understand why the employees wear their "free" Samsung shirts, and gladly put up all the other Samsung Promotional crap..My T-mobile guy complained about the same thing, saying they only got 8 m8's, which sold out in 6 hours, but they had 50+ S5's, and still have them..they actually gave him a M8 to demo in the store, and he said that all the employees have wanted to play with his phone, and NOT the S5..

Money talks, and BS walks, I guess!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] nsuviolin2005:
Yep, seeing the big marketing machine around the Galaxy devices, it's really no wonder why they're so successful. Hopefully the advertising revenue that T-Mobile is getting from Samsung would offset the money they could be missing out on by trying to push customers towards that inferior phone. lol
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] jayr04:
Galaxy is becoming the new iphone. Meaning it's over-hyped and there are better phones for the money.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
Its probably a pretty nice phone, but, for many of us who have had multiple Samsung Phones, eventually they grow boring, and tiresome; of course, if the S5 gets a Knox fix, and is easily rooted, it makes it alot more fun to have, but, I have no idea how locked down the S5 is...
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] fryingpan0613:
This!! It seems like there are a lot of us converters here
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
Its funny; when Samsung was chasing Apple the last few years, it felt nice having a Samsung Phone, sort of like rubbing it in Apples Face;

Now, that Samsung has BECOME Apple, its not as much fun owning one.

Funny how that all works..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Nippero:
Like the other guy said, people have done the math on this and it is very subjective.

The original JUMP was also only better if you had 0 down. But JUMP was around for a few months before T-Mobile switched to nearly $0 down on everything. Which explains why they changed JUMP's requirement to having your phone 50% paid off, thats the original vision they had.

Anyway, like you said, selling your own phone comes with real big ifs.

JUMP's value also depends on if you would have normally paid for insurance and lookout premium anyway.

Finally, in my case, I had the M7 for about 10 months. $200 down + $20x8 months (first two months didnt charge me EIP) + $10*10 = $460.

I still had $300 remaining on my M7's balance. So buying it out and selling it did not make sense at all for me, as even mint condition M7s are only $300ish on Ebay. At most, I would've saved the $100 from not paying for JUMP, but I had insurance before it became JUMP anyway.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Raskob2:
Jump

Your down payment all depends on your credit class. It is zero down if you have been with T-Mobile for three years or if your credit class is A/B. You still will have to pay taxes on the full amount of the phone $45-$55. If you have the older Jump program you get to retain it.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
if you have good credit, and able to sign up for jump before it was changed on Feb 24th, it was a great deal.

Example; I singed up with T-mobile on Feb 12th, and signed up for the jump; no money down needed..

I am paying 28 per month for my Flex; in 6 months, I will have paid 174 towards my phone, and If I want a new one at that point, I can get one again, for no money down, with my perfect credit.

If I bought the phone outright from the start, it would cost 700 dollars; Maybe I could get 350 for it in 6 months on ebay, less shipping/paypal/ebay fees, so I would have "spent" at least 350 out of pocket to have it for 6 months, which is twice what I have paid "renting" it with T-mobile.

If you like to change phones often, the old jump was a great program; if you dont change phones often, you dont need jump, although the insurance part of jump can be a lifesaver if you are the type who tends to drop/lose/abuse your phone..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Nippero:
Good credit = $0 down is how it is now. I bought my M7 in May or June 2013. I too have great credit, not a single blemish, 741 score. Which is why I got my M8 with $0 down. But back then paying $0 down just wasn't an option at all. Paying $200 for a flagship phone used to be the norm (and it still is at ATT and Verizon).

But yea, thats why they changed the JUMP program. Upgrading after just paying $174 for your phone sounds a bit too good to be true doesnt it? :P
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
yeah, its hard to compare how things were and how they are now..

the note 3 was 299 for a long time, not 199, and I wouldnt be surprised if the note 4 and the iphone 6 arent 299 when they come out..

yeah, 174 for the phone is too good to be true, and I am sure thats why they changed the Jump program...

I want to trade my flex in early for an M8, and I can get them to do it, but they want me to "switch" to the New jump in order to do that, but I dont want to "lose" my original Jump membership..
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] piscesjoey:
Couldn't agree with you more on this one, & this is the exact reason I went with the One Max over the Note 3 a few months back.

Sent from my HTC One Max
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] PunishedSnake:
Jumping from note 3 today after work
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] CellPhish:
I am actually thinking of using my jump program to get the m8. I was with T-Mobile before they changed the jump policy so I'm good to go with upgrading. I was wondering is insurance already on the phone even the first 2 weeks you can use the phone and see if you like it, and if you don't you return it with no fee and if you do, that's when they start charging you the 26x24?
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] JesseMT4G:
If on the old plan of jump, you can use it again and not have to switch to the new plan. I would call back and ask to talk to a manager. I was told if I missed out on the 14 days of giving back my Flex, I could use my 2nd jump right away, I didn't have to wait 6 months. Problem is, I'd be stuck using that phone for a year. So sticking with the Flex until the 6 months. I'd definitely call back and see what you can do if unhappy with your current phone.

I personally still love the Flex, but the m8 is a nice phone. Just prefer bigger phones, so either Flex 2, or Note 4 for me, granted the G3 my persuade me.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Nippero:
I believe thats how it works. But if you return it simply because you dont like it, theres a restocking fee. I dont remember the exact % fee though.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] marcoxx626:
Starting to have buyers remorse... Thinking of going back to the note 3. Anybody else on the same boat as me? :-\
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] egcthree:
No
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] TriBeard:
Also nope. I had to go back today to exchange my first device because of some lint/dust that somehow was under the screen and while I was waiting around for someone I looked at all the devices. Nothing even comes close, at least for me.

I can see if you really used the stylus, or really enjoy the large screen why you might like the note. For me though, the screen is just too large, touchwiz is just not my thing (too bloated, lag prone, don't like the look, etc), and the audio quality on the M8 is amazing, especially with decent headphones.
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] m0j09987:
I gotta question and idk if anyone tried this. But when I came to tmobile like 5 months ago I got the iphone 5s I didnt like it. So I traded to someone on craigslist for a note 3. Will I still be able to upgrade for another phone after the 6 month period.

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I would think thr s5 has more then the m8
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] wase4711:
I would think that as long as you have been paying for it monthly, it shouldnt matter, especially if you "trade in" an Iphone; call your tmobile store and let us know what they say!
[T-Mobile HTC One (M8)] Tidbits:
It does matter. He has to return the phone. The EIP is for the 5S and that must be traded in. He can't do it with the Note 3.

His best option is to sell the Note and pay off his EIP then buy whatever phone. His jump counter won't reset and allows him to jump.