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[Moto X General] Steve-x:
My spare Moto X now has 100% working internal wireless charging.

There is an existing thread regarding wireless charging but it has no 100% firm details in it so I thought I would start a new one.

You can see the original here:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/accessories/beginning-journey-wireless-charging-t2541433

First off the mod is not for the faint of heart. The soldering isn't actually too bad, ripping the entire phone apart is the ugly part.

I used a charging pad from a Samsung S3 - there are various "qualities" of charging pads, this happens to be a very good one that is slightly flexible. The bad ones crack and break very easily. I trimmed it down as much as possible.

The Moto X is working great, the only thing I haven't tried is the NFC, if it does still work I would expect the range to be even shorter then normal.(I never used it anyway)

I have updated some pictures in case anyone else wants to attempt the mod, all of them taken rather quickly from my second Moto X during the mod process.

The most important is the first picture which is the USB positive connection point.

You can also see the routing I used to get a 30 gauge wire to the back side of the main board.

I trimmed the blue silicone pad to make room for the charging pad.

Sorry the pics aren't as easy to follow as they were originally, I had to upload them here instead of hosting them myself.

And something extra I want to add. The Moto X is very picky about what it will charge from. At times it will charge at full speed, other times it is very very slow. The rhyme and reason are not something I have been able to determine yet.

edit - added a better picture showing the positive connection point.
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
Wow this is nuts... You may see my moto x at your door requesting this added in :D
[Moto X General] fury683:
Very neat, but not for me. Good work!
[Moto X General] icon123:
Look nice. Thanks for sharing. Is that wireless pad thicker in the middle, then the ends?
[Moto X General] Darth:
Awesome! You should turn it into a business for those without the skills or scared. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] Legacystar:
I tried this a few months ago. What I used to get the wire around the board so there is no lump was copper tape
[Moto X General] cyr4n0:
Pictures

Where have the pictures gone? Can you repost them? I'm quite curious about the outcome of this.
[Moto X General] BPinard:
Thanks for using an unreliable image host.
[Moto X General] Darth:
Lol. Images are fine in Tapatalk for me.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
You're welcome.
[Moto X General] cyr4n0:
Pictures

Do you still have the pictures? Could you upload them to something like imgur perhaps?
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
Use XDA for images
[Moto X General] cyr4n0:
Or that, seriously anything that we can actually see your work....
[Moto X General] Puzzlegal:
Oddly, I can see the images in Tapatalk, but not in Chrome on my laptop.
[Moto X General] Darth:
Last page I said Tapatalk shows the images....so anyone wanting to see, there you go. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] Knolly:
Awesome to hear you got it working mate! Any chance you could rehost the images? I want to see what's involved. Only thing that is keeping me from buying a Moto X is lack of Qi charging.
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
I have uploaded the pics to XDA. I have to add that the wireless charging is a little odd at times. Sometimes it works great, other times it charges extremely slow. When it charges slow the battery icon will not indicate it is charging however the green LED charging mod will indicate that it is.

I have not yet determined the rhyme or reason for the oddness however others have reported odd charging behavior from the Moto X at times with car chargers etc.
[Moto X General] Darth:
I very occasionally see this on any device I own. Sometimes only a reboot will make the charging time get back to normal. Other times just an unplug and plug in again does it.

No idea why, but it definitely happens.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
Are those heatsinks in tight contact with anything, once assembled that is?
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
Not sure what you're referring to. If it is the metal shields they are all on the front side of the mainboard so they face the screen when the phone is assembled. I insulated the connection points to the charging pad with kapton tape so there are no exposed connections.
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2686315&stc=1&thumb=1&d=1397502555

Those heatsinks are facing the screen & not tight with any conductive helper?
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
Those aren't heatsinks, they are EMI shields. (they may also help radiate a little bit of heat though)

They face the screen and are up against thin black protective foam on the back of the screen.
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
Are you sure? Sounds like it should be "conductive" foam? No? I am surely wrong.
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
Makes no difference if it is. Not sure where you are going with your question, nothing in that area is changed in the mod.
[Moto X General] mandrsn1:
They are loading for me in chrome.
[Moto X General] nm3210:
Did you find that charging point yourself or did I miss some other posts where people found one? Is it directly off of USB or is it closer to the power conditioner circuitry (for charging the battery)?
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
Found the point I used myself, it is directly connected to the usb +5 volt input.
[Moto X General] mandrsn1:
I want to do this mod myself. Is there anyway to get a better picture of what you exactly connected the +5 and GND to?
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
If you open your phone it should be easy to match the connection points that I used.

This picture shows the positive 5 volt connection(one end of a capacitor):

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2686315&d=1397502555

This picture shows the negative connection and where I ran the positive connection around the board:

http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2686317&d=1397502555
[Moto X General] mandrsn1:
Thanks. For some reason i didn't see the GND wire in the second photo.
[Moto X General] ya.Moxa:
Wirless charger already arrived, now i'm waiting for S3 adapter for wirless carging and i'l make this mod. I'l post all pictures with manual and results, wait a little ;)
[Moto X General] dray_jr:
This is something i think alot of people would love to do. i would recommend making a better step by step guide to help people out so we dont have a ton of bricked Moto X's if you can get me a text guide with pictures i can create a large single image guide and post it. but i would not attempt this myself without better pictures of everything. IT is just to hard to see.

But great work on getting it to work. i am deff interested.
[Moto X General] aviwdoowks:
I have seen other foamed/heatsink material where it was for one time use only. Once you place & compress a 2nd time it will not conduct as well. I could be off track here as pertaining to our x. Nevertheless I wanted to state my concern
[Moto X General] byt3b0mb:
great job on finding this - been hoping someone would accomplish this on the moto x. i would love to see more close up pics of the points to connect the wires since it requires connecting directly to the board.

once i can see more clearly where to connect + and - i will give this a try.
[Moto X General] byt3b0mb:
using this pic from ifixit i can see approximately where you soldered the +5v wire, but it would be great to know exactly where it should be connected..

http://d3nevzfk7ii3be.cloudfront.net/igi/x5XTnHF5wr3VGHfq
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
Here is the positive connection point.
[Moto X General] byt3b0mb:
Thanks! going to see if i can get a hold of a second moto x to try this on so i dont mess up and end up without a phone.
[Moto X General] aufbau8:
This looks pretty simple actually. It looks like the hardest part will just be taking the phone apart to get access to the back of the mainboard and then putting it back together. You didn't even have to remove any shielding! Pretty much the only part that isn't reversible is melting the adhesive to get the back cover off right?

What's the model of the charging pad that you used? I'd like to try this myself.

edit: looked at some charging pads on Amazon and it looked like the pads made for the S3 are 500mA while pads for the S5 are 1000mA. it looks like you were using the S5 pads. Have you tested what the maximum current from the charging pads are?
[Moto X General] ohiomoto:
Awesome! I haven't been on here recently, but this is something I really wanted to do. I already have the charging coil and magnets intalled in my back cover but haven't gotten around to finding the connection points. Looks like I've got a project for the weekend.

If anyone is interested, here is a thread I made for modding the Galaxy Nexus to work with Palm Touchstone: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...od-palm-touchstone-no-soldering-phone-25.html
[Moto X General] skylineishigh:
Any update on this?

Does the mod add thinkness to the phone?

Was it harder to close everything with the pad in it?

Which pad exactly did you use?
[Moto X General] gitit20:
I did this with a palm touchstone says its charging but does not at all. Was at 13% when I hooked it up checked it 20 min later was down to 10‰ just hopeing it is not borked...
[Moto X General] ohiomoto:
Didn't work with my Touchstone either. :(
[Moto X General] _litz:
Pretty sure the touchstones (both for the phones and the touchpad tablet) are proprietary to Palm devices only ...
[Moto X General] ohiomoto:
I've used them on several other Android devices including my Galaxy Nexus

Here is a link to a guide I posted a couple of years ago that was used by many: http://forums.androidcentral.com/ve...s-mod-palm-touchstone-no-soldering-phone.html
[Moto X General] donslade:
The Palm Touchstone wireless charger(s) use a proprietary system unique to Palm devices. It is not compatible with devices that adhere to the Qi wireless charging standard.

The guide posted is to add the wireless charging coil from a Palm device to a phone that originally did not have it. This will then allow the phone to use the Touchstone charger. This mod does not make the phone Qi compatible not does it make a Qi compatible phone work with the Touchstone charger.
[Moto X General] ohiomoto:
Had it working the same way on an Samsung S3 and I have seen it done on a Nexus 4.
[Moto X General] gitit20:
The touch stone is working fine I soldered a micro USB cable to it and plugged it in that way and placed it on the stone and it charged at a normal rate. further looking I've descovered the problem the tap in point showen in the op for the 5 volts is the secondary regulator for charging the battery the phone can not detect how many amps is being delivered to the phone thus the unstable charging some times I've been looking for the primary charging regulator but I've been unable to locate it I'm not willing to remove my Shields this is my only phone I have right now if some one can post high res pics of the board with the shields off I can look further to find the main power tap for charging...

No disrespect to the op at all great start hope I can figure out where to tap it in at for a better charging wirelessly.
[Moto X General] PolzkY:
Wouldn't be the easiest way to solder the wires right to the connection points of USB port where its soldered to the motherboard? This way there is no need for searching for voltage regulators
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
No it would not, the connection points are completely covered by a metal shield.
[Moto X General] Vivjen:
Biggest found is 650mA http://www.dx.com/p/wrs3-qi-wireles...for-samsung-galaxy-s3-i9300-blue-white-196595
[Moto X General] rice923:
Looks like there's a mixture of success and failure here from different people. For those that are sticking to Qi (not touchstone), would you recommend it at this point?

I just got a brand new DE moto x so I'm trying to be very cautious.
[Moto X General] sailindawg:
I've come to the same conclusion reading this thread. If you have great soldering skills, you might be successful, but the results have been very spotty. Even taking the conservative approach and trying a usb Qi receiver, my phone would not charge via Qi. Seems like the phone's charging threshold is higher than what a Qi charging unit puts out.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
This is a back up of the stock AT&T system image and the boot.img. This is to restore in case you forgot to back up and get stuck in a bootloop. other dev's feel free to use this as a base for your roms just mention me as the source. The System image is rooted but that's about the only thing different from bone stock

It's SW verison 1.12.502.18

Kernel version 3.4.0-g278eae8

THIS IS NOT A FLASHABLE ZIP.. THIS IS TO BE RESTORED IN TWRP.

Instructions:

Unzip the zip file,

Copy the whole folder into your TWRP/BACKUPS/YOUSERIALNUMBER/ folder on your SDCard

Restore System and boot and you're good to go.

LINK:

https://mega.co.nz/#!2BBDVRoZ!42A0gWJLFv_XEXBJlHfohys5ejCFG9YBjqMv2vcl6GY

Disclaimer: I am not responsible if you use this and brick your device or if your device blows up, implodes, or flames start shooting from it or it kills your neighbor's dog. Flash at your own risk. I am not responsible.... It was the other guy... I swear....
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] drakeymcmb:
Can you reupload the link. link is dead
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Need stock recovery as well....
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
It's taking forever to upload for some reason I had to leave my house but I'll check it when I get home..
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
You're on your own there..
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] drakeymcmb:
hows the upload going?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
Upload is done https://mega.co.nz/#!2BBDVRoZ!42A0gWJLFv_XEXBJlHfohys5ejCFG9YBjqMv2vcl6GY
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] drakeymcmb:
Wow!!! 3Mbps Thanks!!!!!
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
You're welcome
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
No worries the 1.54 recovery will work as well for what I use it for...Thanks...
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] effezie:
Worked perfect for me. The download was fast. Thanks.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] robstunner:
So fasboot oem lock + this + stock recovery is as good as returnable as we can get right?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Nathan2:
I'm no expert but I would think you would want real stock, without root, if you wanted to return it?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] robstunner:
I would, doesn't seem available though. Oh well, hopefully the carrier doesn't care. Probably gets sent to HTC and put into the refirb line anyway.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
you could always use supersu to unroot. There is an unroot option I believe. once you lock the bootloader again though it shows relocked instead of locked so they can tell you unlocked it and relocked it, if they even check. Most of the time they wont even check.. Just check it for physical/ water damage
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] robstunner:
Yea that's true, I've returned phone on cwm and Roms without a hiccup
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Senor_Fuzzypants:
Maybe im just retarded

i dont understand how do this. my m8 is in a bootloop after the first rom i flashed and i dont know how to fix it.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] dark2099:
Download the rom again, probably a bad download.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] manup456:
[MENTION=3537886]graffixnyc[/MENTION]

Do you have 1.12.502.18 stock recovery?

If you do I could really use it.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
umm I don't think I do.. Not sure which was shipped with the AT&T version.. That one I have but like I said, not sure what the version number is
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] manup456:
That is the version that came with at&t version but I used a Rogers stock recovery works just fine with our phones.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
Yes then I do have it.. I can upload it when I get home if you still need it
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] manup456:
That would be great man something is not correct with my phone so getting it replaced need to get everything back to stock that is the only thing I was missing.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
No problem.. I'll upload it when I get home (at school right now)
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] graffixnyc:
[MENTION=1407738]manup456[/MENTION] http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23329332407585318

Must flash in RUU mode
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] jatipton:
So this is the stock recovery?

I am trying to go back to stock to get the newest FW update from ATT.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] Wonders_Never_Cease:
Dont think there is an update as of yet for at&t...heres the complete stock att software back up unrooted recovery included

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51953376&postcount=352
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] clovis_ll:
tried doing restore using this back up but it kept saying error about no partition selected for restore.

NVM it works now!

thank you so much!
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] iTzz_KAMIKAZE:
I tried flashing twrp but i keep getting boot looped. Can you use a different recovery to restore the back up? Like bare clockworkmod or the modded version Philz touch?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] idofthephoenix:
I need to know please

i have installed SkyDragon M8 v 1.6.5 Brightstar-WWE Sense 7 *AT&T on my AT&T HTC M8 but i don't have S-OFF could i do the restore via TWRP and be ok?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
Should be.

FYI, S-off has nothing to do with flashing ROM, or restoring TWRP backups, and s-on is fine.

Whenever in doubt about flashing something, make a TWRP backup of your current setup (in this case, Skydragon), and you can easily revert if you run into problems. If you made a TWRP backup of the stock ROM before flashing custom ROMs, you can just restore that as well.

But the backup in this thread is really old. Its KitKat (4.4.2 I believe). What reason exactly do you want to go back to stock?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] idofthephoenix:
Oh I See.

Thank for the answer. I was guessing it was an old version. What i really wanted to do is go to stock because i wanted to sell my phone and the location where i'm selling doesn't accept rooted phones. so i wanted to restore it to stock. it's a shame i can't find the newest os though i wish i could flash a debloated at&t marshmallow one but i have yet to find it .
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
Since the intent is simply to return to stock for resale, just relock the bootloader and RUU back to stock.

See my Index thread under "RUUs". The latest for AT&T is Lollipop 4.28.502.2 since they have not release Marshmallow yet.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2751432
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] idofthephoenix:
Do I require s-off to run RUU on my phone? sorry for so many questions. it's just everywhere i've read that i need s-off to run RUUs so i've been avoiding using it for fear of bricking my phone.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
S-on is fine. RUU is an official HTC update/recovery tool; and works fine on stock devices. That is, as long as its the RUU intended for your version (AT&T), and you do not try to run an older version RUU than the firmware on the phone ("downgrade").

S-off is only needed to run

another

version's RUU; for which you need s-off to change the phone's CID and MID in order for the RUU to work.

S-off also removes the requirement to relock the bootloader to RUU, and allows you to "downgrade" (run older version RUU).

But its not mandatory to run the RUUs meant for AT&T M8.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] idofthephoenix:
awesome!!! thank you, just a quick question would it not conflict with skydragon since i used the one based on marshmallow?
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
No conflict. It doesn't matter what ROM is on the phone when you RUU. The RUU will over-write all partitions on the phone to stock.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] mchockeyvette27:
Wondering if anyone can help me update to the latest MM update. I've tried all I know so far. I am currently running a stock, rooted ROM, 4.4.4. I'm s-on with a relocked bootloader. Software version 3.42.502.1. Stock recovery. I've tried flashing an ruu to no avail. Everything I've done so far has just failed completely. Not sure what my next steps should be. I can provide as much info as needed. Thanks for any help!

Edit: my mindset has been on flashing an ruu so I can return to completely stock and just ota the mm update. Not sure if that's the correct process though.
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] redpoint73:
None of this actually tells us what you tried or didn't try so far (aside from "flashing an RUU"). Or what the results of each was.

What RUU or RUUs did you try (exact file name)? Did you get an error message (if so, what error number and error message)?

Use Win7 and USB 2.0 for best compatibility with RUU.

You are correct, that is probably your best bet (flash 4.28.502 RUU to return to stock, then OTA to MM). As long as your bootloader is relocked (as you said it was) and running the right RUU on the right PC, RUU should work fine.

You can

try

the AT&T MM RUU. But from what I can tell, all the Marshmallow RUUs for all CIDs will fail with Error 155 or 159 if you try to RUU from LP to MM, and the only way around this is to flash the MM firmware first, then RUU (and the 6.20.502 version is too new to have firmware posted).

http://www.htc.com/us/support/htc-one-m8-att/news/

EDIT: If you get Error 155 or 159 running the MM RUU, here is the MM firmware 6.20.502, and instructions on how to flash (then MM RUU): http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=66886759&postcount=23
[AT&T HTC One (M8)] mchockeyvette27:
Thanks a lot for the response. I finally figured out what I was missing. And sorry for the little info at first!

I was first trying to just run the ruu normally with the .exe file, but it wouldn't run the program, so I figured windows 10 may not be compatible. Then I just tried flashing the ruu .zip and it would fail, giving me a #12 signature error or something like that. And a couple things after that just didn't work. Ends up windows 10 wasn't necessarily the issue, I was just missing the run-time software that allows the .exe file to run. Installed those packages, ran the ruu, flashed perfectly, and I'm now running marshmallow! So many more things involved than the nexus phones :/
[AT&T LG G2] TSF14:
Like others, I foolishly accepted the OTA. Now no matter what I do, phone will only boot into CWM v.6.0.0.4. The ***** is, I can't access download mode, or adb. Any help would be graciously welcomed.:(
[AT&T LG G2] Drachenminister:
When you try to go into download mode by holding volume up and then plugging in USB what happens?
[AT&T LG G2] TSF14:
It goes to the LG screen and wont do anything til I turn it off.

Actually it stops at the LG screen and then goes right back to CWM. In CWN I can flash a ROM or restore a back up, but after is says I was successful & I reboot it goes right back to CWM
[AT&T LG G2] ScottsoNJ:
try this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2451696
[AT&T LG G2] TSF14:
Dude, You ROCK!!! Awesome!:good:
[AT&T LG G2] ScottsoNJ:
Glad it worked. I had the same problem and bookmarked the page. lol
[AT&T LG G2] TSF14:
Now I have no apns & phone say I have no phone number.
[AT&T LG G2] Drachenminister:
Sounds like parts of the ota went through and now it's messed up. Maybe try flashing back to stock 4.2.2 to get a clean start.
[AT&T LG G2] TSF14:
Can't Install Custom Recovery

Thanks, much! Got fresh install of stock d80010d(4.2.2 At&T).:good: Now I have a new dilemma. Have followed every guide I could find, but not able to install any version of custom recovery. Have tried on 2 different machines, Win 7 64 bit, and a brand new laptop w/Win7 32 bit. And yes I have rooted.
[AT&T LG G2] XxZombiePikachu:
Are you sure you are on 10d, I know 10o and 10q are a bit annoying to get recovery on, if you are on 10d then have you tried freegee from the playstore?
[AT&T LG G2] TSF14:
Yes, running 10d. Thank you soooo much for the freegee referral!!! That did the trick! :D
[AT&T LG G2] XxZombiePikachu:
yea I wanted to make sure you were on 10d because some people brick there phone with freegee on 10q and sometimes 10o just fails, but glad it worked