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[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
This is such a ridiculously overstated "problem." I've used both the N5 and 5S, and the N5 is faster, hands down. Maybe it drops a couple animation frames here and there. I don't know. Who cares? It doesn't affect either the speed or usability of the phone in any way (seriously....like not even a little).
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
I have both and use both N5 and 5s and this just is him spewing BS. He posts nothing to back up his claim. We don't even know if he owns both devices currently to make such a statement. Comparing two different operating systems on solely apps is the most ridiculous thing ever. There are apps on iOS that lag and there are Android apps that lag. Apps lag and both systems lag. IOS lags more than a Nexus 5 running art. IOS as previously stated doesn't even load an app up quickly. It loads a cached screenshot of the app so you think it's loaded up. I like how the users whom own both devices are calling BS on the claims because they actually have experience with both devices to base their claims on.

2/10 at Trolling for getting me to reply
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
Yeah.....in fact, the first time I used a 5S, I was really surprised at how subjectively slow it felt compared to my N5. I don't particularly care that Android isn't locked at a constant 60 fps like iOS (although, honestly, it's pretty damn close the majority of the time). I care more about the actual usage of the phone than about how smoothly the window dressing animates, but for some reason people keep parroting iOS's "smoothness" over the actual speed of use.

Android was neither fast nor smooth in 2011 (pre-ics). It's 2014 now. Both points are irrelevant. Anyone who complains about the minuscule amount of "lag" that's supposedly still present in the OS (which, again, consists of sporadically dropped frames of animation rather than actual lag) needs to seriously STFU already and move on.
[Nexus 5 General] marinierb:
The trolls are well fed, I see.
[Nexus 5 General] orkuto:
Wait is on for this *

Any clue on exact date on which the update is expected to roll out ?:D
[Nexus 5 General] Link_proxXP:
Believe me, we are all wondering the same thing!

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[Nexus 5 General] kepapas:
4+4+3=11+9= 20 that's right folks 4.4.3 will drop on 4/20 ooooh yeaaaah
[Nexus 5 General] Link_proxXP:
hahahah damn I love this threads!
[Nexus 5 General] chainsuk:
Wi-Fi Direct

I would really like to see them fix the wi fi direct for gods sake nexus 5 has been out some time now "GOOGLE" FIX IT"
[Nexus 5 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
There are so many things to fix, I can't believe it takes them MONTHS. Apple would've fixed it in a week. And I say that as an Android Fanboy :/

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[Nexus 5 General] chainsuk:
WI FI Direct

Yeah its really frustrating i used to swap files a lot with wi fi direct on my S2 and really miss it, and really its a major fix as its one of the Nexus 5 main features saying you can send really big files fast,heres hoping.
[Nexus 5 General] itasoulas:
i read all about bug fixes which are most welcome to improve things. But it is about time for google to add certain features to improve user experience like:

- add more toggles on quick settings

- add at least the reboot option in power menu

- possibly add a display utility to change stock kernel parameters such as colors

DO THAT GOOGLE AND YOU'LL MAKE AS VERY HAPPY!!!
[Nexus 5 General] Jonathanlc2005:
If they do release it on April 1st... Its going to be a big joke on Google that they misspelled priority
[Nexus 5 General] MrBelter:
No they wouldn't, apple have a tendency to let things slip the week before its due out, how long they have actually been working on it is anyones guess.
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
Just use the superbeam app
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
KitKat is meant to be an updated in which older devices can run. It's optimized for lower memory use, down to 512MB I believe. So KitKat will be noticeably smoother on older devices.

I hope android 5.0 will be a big update. Most of the lag and problems with android is the software and OS (obviously from looking at the nexus 5 hardware). Android 5.0 should be the update which builds upon KitKat and changes android for the better.
[Nexus 5 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
We hope so. But will ART be faster/smoother than on 4.4.2?

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[Nexus 5 General] riDDimann:
Simply not true. Android cannot not lag. Android is an operating system and users don't interact with operating systems. They interact with programs/apps. All Google can do and has been doing since 4.0 is to optimize the Android framework, to minimize the effect of shoddy programming.

Android performance is fine and has been fine since 4.1, but Google will continue to improve. That doesn't mean horribly programmed apps like Tapatalk won't lag and stutter.

If you want an example for how bad programming can be, check this out: If you try to open a network socket on the UI thread, this will cause an error. This is not a bug, it was done deliberately to stop stupid/lazy programmers from doing something as incredibly stupid as blocking the UI with network traffic.

Sadly Google isn't leading by example here. The Play Store, Youtube, Maps and Earth apps simply don't run as smoothly as they should. Instead of performance fixes, these apps get strange new layouts with more animations and ever more features.

This is something you should be criticizing. Google should be leading by example, making apps that run flawlessly. Not your generic "hurr durr Android so slow" rants.

Like they fixed the horrible iOS 7 performance on the 4s within a week. Or the rotation and keyboard lag on the 5. Yeah...

Totally an Android fanboy, but raving on about how everything Apple ever does is so much better.

iOS 7 performance has been a bit of a disaster on anything but the 5s if you ask me.
[Nexus 5 General] Seadra:
Man, just stop. You're embarrassing yourself. I'm a fanboy aswell, doesn't mean i will just outrright lie
[Nexus 5 General] lolcopter:
Android lags on my og n7 because the hardware is crap by current standards

Anyone complaining about lag on the n5 prob has too many tweaks running dalvik. Stock ART + custom kernel is smooth as butter
[Nexus 5 General] riDDimann:
You're embarrassing yourself with a complete lack of reading comprehension and/or attention span.

Android does not lag, apps that run on Android do. Background activity can cause lag, but that's a design choice, not a problem. Apple and Microsoft chose not to have real multitasking for 3rd-party apps.
[Nexus 5 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
So why are SIMPLE animations laggy from time to time? Animations are a part of the system. And why is the play store laggy as hell, gmail, maps,...

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[Nexus 5 General] Seadra:
I have experienced lags on framework aswell... How about that
[Nexus 5 General] riDDimann:
Window transitions - those are actually done by the system - are fine for me. In fact, I still have a Huawei U8800 (1 core at 800 MHz, ) lying around here that's running a very much WIP 4.4 ROM and even that's mostly fine in this regard. That device has seen 2.2, 2.3, 4.0 and now 4.4 and every version has been a great improvement.

Some apps work perfectly, some apps lag and it doesn't necessarily correlate with the complexity of their layout.

Well duh. If you ask too much of it it will lag. There is only so much the hardware can do. If you experience performance problems with reasonable expectations, that would be a problem. But for some magical reason*, my apps never lag.

* the reason being that I do as little work as possible on the UI thread.
[Nexus 5 General] krabman:
You are not going to agree, let it go. Some of us would like to talk about the update, Those that want to talk about lag are surely welcome to do so in some other thread.
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
ART will probably be the default runtime in the next major update. It still needs improvements, but that's why it's in the developer options. They've supposably been working on it for 2 years, it should be stable enough for the next major update.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
I agree, but none of that is going to happen with a 4.4.x release.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Stop feeding the Apple troll who doesn't even own an iPhone.
[Nexus 5 General] Ohgami_Ichiro:
This is NOT a iPhone vs Android or Lag Thread!! Keep it on topic!!
[Nexus 5 General] OuncE718:
It's like [MENTION=5395380]dicecuber[/MENTION] died and came back again as another screen name. Lol.

sent from my neXus 5
[Nexus 5 General] Jonathanlc2005:
Apple is made from GMO's :D
[Nexus 5 General] arlrb:
Quantum leap

If Ziggy can lag/stutter then so can a smartphone... & Ziggy's from the future!
[Nexus 5 General] randomnoob83:
They need to include better camera app the one we have is horrible.... Something like the moto x or HTC m8 camera app would be nice
[Nexus 5 General] Jonathanlc2005:
OK I have a feeling the release will either be April 1st or my ultimate guess... 4/3
[Nexus 5 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
Stock Android always had ultra ultra ultra cra&%y camera apps. Fact :/

But I think Android 5.0 brings ART, new camera app with raw support and an ui overhaul.

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Lets hope!

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[Nexus 5 General] mmmmBACON:
What's up with this [MENTION=3117242]iamnotkurtcobain[/MENTION] guy? It's clearly [MENTION=5395380]dicecuber[/MENTION] 2.0.

He's done nothing but spew bull**** and crap all over the thread. There was a decent discussion going on about the update until he brought in his fanboy garbage.

Yes, you're apparently a fanboy of Android, but you have done nothing but bash it, while simultaneously praising iOS at every turn. Do us all a favour, throw your Apple shades back on and join a mac forum. This thread and XDA aren't meant for childish dribble.

People come here to have constructive conversations, not fanboy whining. If you have nothing helpful to add, keep your crap to yourself.
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
I've somehow managed to get pretty good battery life with my devices. Check out my photos below.

I've been using Qualcomm battery guru, location setting set to battery saving and greenify with ElementalX kernel. This graph is with light use since I'm at work. Only texting a bit, checking social media once or twice. But this is pretty good in my opinion.
[Nexus 5 General] :
No comment. ;)

Also.....what are those averages there at the bottom? Hmmmm. :)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] Jonathanlc2005:
Using sprint... And inside a concrete building half the time
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
He's trolling you guys...... Come on
[Nexus 5 General] :
I know....just showing off. LOL. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] foxdigital2k2:
Not true at all I am running stock with Franco kernel and use auto brightness and get great battery life, not like the Note 3 but its 4-5 hours sot. Battery life is good for how this thing runs, just saying

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Use greenify if its that bad its aweasome
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
DdQUOTE=FuMMoD;51539490]He's trolling you guys...... Come on

See like I said I got an iphone 5s for work and to be honest with you I've tried to actually like it I used it for about a week straight is my Dd there were something that I really like about it but in the end it can even come close not even close... It ended up frustrating the hell out of me.. The keyboard! Ugh! Its like take a gs2 stock keyboard (awful) and make it half the size.. I can't ever type anything correct plus I did notice that mine and my co workers the iPhone has a hard time being accurate when you press I.e. a search box or input field just misses all the time

End of troll/argument/n5 awesomeness convo :)
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
See like I said I got an iphone 5s for work and to be honest with you I've tried to actually like it I used it for about a week straight is my Dd there were something that I really like about it but in the end it can even come close not even close... It ended up frustrating the hell out of me.. The keyboard! Ugh! Its like take a gs2 stock keyboard (awful) and make it half the size.. I can't ever type anything correct plus I did notice that mine and my co workers the iPhone has a hard time being accurate when you press I.e. a search box or input field just misses all the time

End of troll/argument/n5 awesomeness convo :)[/QUOTE]

Omg I hate how I can't be precise when I tap the screen. On my Nexus 5 wherever I tap it hits exactly where I want it. On my 5s I have to tap it hard and sometimes constantly because it's not accurate.
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
Omg I hate how I can't be precise when I tap the screen. On my Nexus 5 wherever I tap it hits exactly where I want it. On my 5s I have to tap it hard and sometimes constantly because it's not accurate.

Yes that's exactly the problem..and my ex Gf at the time had a 4s like most women. And I remember hers being the same way must not be meant for man hands
[Nexus 5 General] foxdigital2k2:
I love my N5 I have had note 2 and 3, the G Flex which was pretty cool and all the other top ones and this one runs the best and is the perfect size. 4.2.3 sounds good the only thing is the camera sometimes its great and other times nope but all in all this is a great phone
[Nexus 5 General] randomnoob83:
6 hours SOT O.o how the hell I get like 2-3
[Nexus 5 General] :
Spend some time flipping through this thread. Basically, sacrifices must be made. Tho to me....toggles work great, instead of running certain things 24/7. ;)

But read through some this thread below. Maybe start at end and go backwards. Its not hard to get 5 to 6 hours SOT. But you'd have to part with some niceties.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2509132

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

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Also....many have issues and don't realize it. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Nexus 5 General] Jonathanlc2005:
http://techtainian.com/news/2014/4/1/android-443-begining-to-hit-nexus-devices
[Nexus 5 General] mmmmBACON:
Check today's date dude...

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51545480&postcount=2
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
well i just ordered the red 32gb version..i currently have the white one..hope it doesnt come with defects
[Nexus 5 General] xbxjunkie:
the red rocks, i got one :good:

make sure you get the matching nokia Qi charger
[Nexus 5 General] zubsz:
Same here, it's awesome :D
[Nexus 5 General] Abaddon:
finally. those fixes :)
[Nexus 5 General] GUGUITOMTG4:
It seems like some google's spy heard you:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/01/google-new-android-camera-app/?ncid=rss_truncated&utm_campaign=sf
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
r u guys coming from a different phone or from a different color of n5?
[Nexus 5 General] xbxjunkie:
i'm using a rooted KK G2 as my DD, but i bought the red N5 to mess around with
[Nexus 5 General] wifesabitch:
I just want all my bluetooth issues to be fixed. Then this phone would be perfect.

Keeping my fingers crossed.
[Nexus 5 General] BRiANj64:
Do you do anything 3D on your phone? ;) (Fifa 14 for example)

smartphones are like laptops. Have u ever tried full performance gaming on an alienware? 30 minutes battery life...(although alienwares are more desktop replaces than real laptops)
[Nexus 5 General] zubsz:
different phone
[Nexus 5 General] gamer.11:
RAW photography and a HD photo capture mode on 8mp(who takes 4:3 pics anyway?)

Over the top hopes:

120fps slow mo(i dont know about camera h/w but the chipset is sure capable of doing it)

Field of depth video capture.
[Nexus 5 General] YoColdRain:
random question

does anyone know how long their phone (32gb) charges to full 100% from below 10% battery life?

I lost my original charger that comes with N5, and I remember it said output on 1.2v, whereas other phones (s3, s2, hero adapter that i have) are 1.0v output. But those adapter do charge my phone just not sure if It should be any faster charging.
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
The phone will only charge as fast as the battery allows. If you use a 2 v charger, only 1.2v will be used to charge because that's what the phone allows. That being said if you use a 1 v charger for a 1.2v phone it will charge slower than it would with a 1.2v charger.

I've never gotten that low with my phone since I keep it on a wireless charger when not in use. It would probably take 3 4 hours about though, not really sure.
[Nexus 5 General] BRiANj64:
It depends, using a AC adapter it goes faster than on USB because it's defined in the kernel. If it detects USB 2.0 it goes very slow, if it detectes USB 3.0 it goes a little bit faster and on AC it goes full speed, but it will get alot hotter. Never do 3D gaming on AC adapter, it *can* overheat stuff.

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It depends, using a AC adapter it goes faster than on USB because it's defined in the kernel. If it detects USB 2.0 it goes very slow, if it detectes USB 3.0 it goes a little bit faster and on AC it goes full speed(i don't know the actual values tbh), but it will get alot hotter. Never do 3D gaming on AC adapter, it *can* overheat stuff.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
The phone allows maximum 1.5 or 1500mah of charging speed. I use a 1.8 BlackBerry charger to achieve this and monitor it with Battery monitor widget. It takes on average 1 hour and 40 minutes for a full charge from 0 to 100 for me. It takes a few minutes longer if I'm using it while charging.
[Nexus 5 General] GUGUITOMTG4:
I think you mean {(A)amps} instead of {(V)volts}. Stock charger is 5v--1.2A = 6W

And actually with a Galaxy tab charger which is 2.0 A it charges even faster like 1% per minute.
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
Silly me, he was using V so I was think the same thing lol.

I always thought the phone doesn't charge any faster than it's allowed for obvious reasons it may fry the battery?
[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
i second this, blackberry chargers (and cables) are great..
[Nexus 5 General] GUGUITOMTG4:
What happens is that the phone is allowed to charge with higher amperage than LG suggests (maybe to save money they included 1.2A). Like FuMMoD just said, around 1.5A or maybe more.

If it was dangerous to use higher output chargers, they would make the plugs on a different shape and not universal. That because the hardware can regulate current by decreasing voltage to the needed one. Not the same if you use under-powered charger.

We are off topic as of now there's lot more on the web.
[Nexus 5 General] mmmmBACON:
Came from a broken screen Black 32GB Nexus 5, to a Red 32GB Nexus 5. Not a single regret was given.
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
got 'em both..gonna sell the white one locally
[Nexus 5 General] cioconebunu:
Hey, what is the white spot on the earpiece?
[Nexus 5 General] mmmmBACON:
Nice! I take it you got hooked on the bright neon red too? It's great, it seriously messes with my eyes if I look at it too long! Like my eyeballs are saying, "I cannot comprehend this colour! wtf is going on?"

That would be the earpiece! :laugh:
[Nexus 5 General] cioconebunu:
Funny :D
[Nexus 5 General] hello00:
red is my favorite color so i was like i have to get it plus everyone keeps looking at it wherever i go..and it is easy to get caught when texting in class..i have to hide the back 'cause it is too bright on the back lol
[Nexus 5 General] mmmmBACON:
Yeah makes sense. It's not exactly a colour you choose if you want to be incognito!
[Nexus 5 General] jphilippon:
No more than one hour. I have no idea what crap USB cable the replies you got are using but the real quality ones go at that speed. (and yes it does matter) my Nexus 7 charger is my favorite. I forget the details but the soc we have has some fast charge ability for AC.

sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
Think of it as an arrow, pointing upwards. [emoji1]
[Nexus 5 General] kitoos:
What news are in the new buid?
[Nexus 5 General] JunDavis:
Yes, let's try and stay on topic here.

:)
[Nexus 5 General] aHanSolo:
Can't wait for 4.4.3! :)
[Nexus 5 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
Today would be a great day for 4.4.3 ...

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[Nexus 5 General] deakelem:
that would be clever
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
At 4:43 Pacific time
[Nexus 5 General] iamnotkurtcobain:
We can only hope... The bug fixes are nice..

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[Nexus 5 General] randomnoob83:
I neither lmao..
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
"Blue tint camera issue?" Umm, what?
[Nexus 5 General] vs0587:
You need to clean up your lens..... :D
[Nexus 5 General] k0lega:
If this update isn't released at 3pm today, then I don't know what's even real anymore :p
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
Exactly lol
[Nexus 5 General] randomnoob83:
Might be getting a camera update before 4.4.3 :D
[Nexus 5 General] bloot:
LlabTooFeR ‏@LlabTooFeR 22 h

KTU84D is another 4.4.3 Android build...
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
I can edit my buildprop too, to show 4.4.3.
[Nexus 5 General] bloot:
Did you even know LlabTooFeR is an HTC GE developer?.
[Nexus 5 General] FuMMoD:
I want to believe it's real. If the HTC one just got a 4.4.3 build that means the Nexus 5 should have it becoming official very soon. The Nexus is supposed to be the first with any updates.
[Nexus 5 General] maxal:
I have a HTC One and there is no 4.4.3 update yet but I don't think Llab.Too.Fer was tweeting about the HTC One he was just tweeting about a new 4.4.3 build.
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Yeah llabtoofer is aka [MENTION=2842870]foot[/MENTION]ball and he gets all of the HTC leaks early. Has nothing to do with us. The One will not get 4.4.3 before us
[Nexus 5 General] El Daddy:
I'm sure there are several builds being tested. Some newer and some older than KTU84. Google doesn't always go with the most recent build for the OTA/master code drop.
[Nexus 5 General] thesebastian:
If we are talking about official releases...the Nexus should be the first (with or without GPE).

If we are talking about leaks....there is more chance of appearance on GPE phones.

At least, the last year when the S4 GPE arrived...the 4.3 leaked ROM arrived much sooner than the 4.3 Nexus 4 leaked ROM. (Yes, there was a leaked system dump from a test Nexus 4 with 4.3).
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
Hera

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...d-and-search-to-do-everything-on-your-device/

As 4.4.3 should "only" be a bug-fixer release, many speculate that 4.5/5.0 could turn out to be a big release, something like 4.0 was back at the time.. Hera looks like something that could be introduced in a big update... and well, guys at AndroidPolice are pretty confident (8/10) that it's not just another rumor. I must admit, i'm not a huge fan of chromium based stuff, but if executed well (for example no performance hits..), this might actually be the refreshment android needs. What do you think guys?
[Nexus 5 General] ZacksBuilds:
I think the UI is ugly..

Sent From My Carbonated Nexus 5 w/ Franco r37 ARTifyed
[Nexus 5 General] iPathik:
I believe thats a mock-up from Android Police to help the readers understand what it might look like and how it might operate. Nothing is final until Google announces it!
[Nexus 5 General] datallboy:
I don't think it looks that bad. I hope to see more Google Now theme, mixed with holo light and transparency. It looks like they may be testing Hera on Notes already, and I could see all Google apps doing this.

Status bar colors would obviously be included in the next major update (being 4.5 or 5.0). You can already do this with a xposed module.
[Nexus 5 General] quendil:
I hated the article's screenshots but then i remembered this app here:

ConvertIt! Pro

So it cant be THAT bad...

Edit: to say that this is without using xposed module.
[Nexus 5 General] papayayoghurt:
Whats the name of the xposed module?

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