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[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
The camera on the M8 is great but it does indeed have weaker dynamic range that the competitors. It tends to underexpose rather than overexposed but that all depends on the scene you try to take the photo in. My gripe is with HDR. That doesn't work like it should. HDR as we know it should meter three times. Bright to underexpose, normal exposure and dark to overexpose. It seems to as if it only takes two photos. Dark to overexpose and normal. Otherwise the photos are great. This would be my only complaint really. I do hope HTC goes for an 8 or 10MP 1/2.3" sensor to still keep the pixels big. OIS would be great unless they make 2 identical cameras on the back to stitch photos together. You'd get some remarkable virtual IS like that as well as almost instant and better HDR (with 4 photos, jitter free) as well as great uFocus effects and faster focusing with phase focus. I'd also like to see much better optics on the camera(s).
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=2444459]caretaker01[/MENTION] that's actually a pretty good tip, so for your custom camera you have it capped at ISO 200 and EV-1, and then you manually focus on the darkest spot to get a perfectly balanced shot? or do u leave it at auto ISO?
[One (M8) General] Darknites:
Does anybody know about the settings in my screenshots?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
what the hell is that?
[One (M8) General] Darknites:
Stock camera for Candykat rom.

Edit, that ISO don't seem to do anything.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
the above screenshot allows you to sell select RAW format, which should have 10bit colors and offers a lot more in terms of processing, for example you can open the image in photoshop RAW tool and do so much with it or a tool like Photo Acute
[One (M8) General] Darknites:
Hmm is acute free? If not do know of a free one?
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
I am not a photographer as a profesion but everyone can agree with me that this example i made will be one of the most chalangeing ones not only for camera phones but for every camera outthere. but for the sake of makeing it really visible here are some shots

first: all auto focus point picked at the back of the stapler where there is less light (scenario is low light back iluminated office room)

second: is my custom made camera wich i use for indoor afternoon where there is some bright light entering the scene , same focus point and EV set to -1

third: same thing only the EV is set to -2

i allways set sharpness in the camera to -2 so i avoid edge sharpening (because any filter added to the photo with any app/software will give me a better result)

image posting

adult photo sharing

upload gambar

the ideea of playing around with those efects came form these sites alltow some say that setting the contrast to +1 +2 for outdoor will result in similar photos to the iphone (never use bouth contrast and EV settings because it will ruin the shot) it comes down to a personal preferance (i prefer the EV way because setting the contrast higher will give you the result of any autoenhance software trick you can find)

http://htc-one.wonderhowto.com/how-...-clearer-sharper-photos-your-htc-one-0154257/

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/05/17/htc-one-m8-camera-tips-to-improve-your-photos/ (notice the candy dish ones, its simply awsome to play around with EV)

the custom camera uses auto mode because the EV trick didnt gave me any interesting results in lower light then the one in the scene, thus going higher then 400 will have so little effect on the exposure layers but will result in higher noise factor. Basicly the beauty of this custom camera is that i can use HTC refocus/retouch efects wich are gimiks, but so very nice gimmiks :)) For lower light scenario i use the night mode camera witch gives way better white balance then auto, and for even allmost no light scenario, we all know that manual mode with 1/4 shutter and ISO 400-800 MAX will give you predator vision :)
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
awesome but i still didnt get an answer, in your custom EV -1 camera do u leave it at ISO200 or MAX ISO?
[One (M8) General] Jamal Ahmed:
I just took a good "stock" quality photo, so decided to post it here. Hope you like it :)

I take quite a lot photos with my M8, but don't want to post them here, as it's more of a "M8 picture quality" thread. I edit them extremely heavily for my own art hobby. Kindly follow my signature for those (all are taken with M8).
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
Normaly its set to auto - max ISO but the scenarios i use it in it will never go past 250, after the first shot i take i zoom in and if i see more then useable noise i set it to iso 200 or 400 because setting it doesnt mean that it will take a shot with ISO 200 or 400, i means that it will pick the best iso between 100 and 200 or 400. if the shot requires more then the level i`ve set iit will allmost cap-out to the maximum i`ve set.

Now that you`ve peacked my interest ill try playing with the ISO in auto as well to see the results
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
dude that's exactly the best thing about the M8 is that we can do so much with it in editing, thanks to the big pixels, controls and most importantly the ability to turn off digitial processing with sharpness -2

some new examples:

These are regular auto mode sharpness -2; burst shots of 20 each; combined into 16MP using Photo Acute and later toned mapped into HDR using Photo Acute as well :)

click for full 16MP
[One (M8) General] leoaudio13:
Here r mine :
[One (M8) General] daydu19:
Here are two of mine
[One (M8) General] PartimusPrime:
Here's 2 pics I took at Six Flags Fiesta Texas:
[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
I just tried to make pictures with the m8 , every time when I pres the shutter button it takes few seconds to focus ... :s

Should I send it back to HTC ?
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
In good light it should focus in a fraction of a second , assuming there's something to lock into ie: not a white wall or plain blue sky
[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
There was enough light :) ... And there was somethin to lock into.

Edit: it was a photo of some people ..
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Sounds iffy ... Could you try it in the shop and compare it
[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
Tnx I will do that and I will try to make a video of my camera shutter lag
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Hope it gets sorted
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Finally, it's here, start downloading :) Dev Edition: BS_US002
[One (M8) General] th3:
I didn't get it... HTC 001 cid.... Damn :(

And I can't flash the ota, tried everything out there.

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[One (M8) General] RSK01:
Finally sorted out the upgrade, I hope. Will try out the new camera next few days.

ARHD 20.3. Rooted, S-Off, Super CID.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
So i am checking out the new camera improvements:

- The mixed video / photo mode in the main camera is essential

- HTC improved the image quality of the front camera greatly, also added Auto HDR! but still didn't give us auto HDR for the main camera!!

- All the new selfie improvements are awesome, but the app fails to tell you what voice to use in order to capture (i know it but the app should say)

- Split screen and Photo booth are genius

- HTC has a completely new sharpness / noise algorithm with the default sharpness 0, similar to the competition edge enhance / smudge, you can still disable it with -2

i will be investigating IQ improvements to the rear camera and if they fixed HDR metering
[One (M8) General] th3:
BTW, when enabling the "crop me in" feature, I found another mention of a camera called Camera_China_Sina with different options

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[One (M8) General] hamdir:
how to enable crop me in?
[One (M8) General] th3:
Go to system/customize/ACC/default.xml, edit as below and save it, then reboot.

Find the boolean "can_enable_human_joint" and change it to true. It will be false by default. Its under the app_name=Camera.

Credits to someone else in the updates thread.

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[One (M8) General] hamdir:
root eh? :)
[One (M8) General] th3:
Yep, gotta have root ;)

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[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Direct Sun shot , overexposed ?

I don't wanna hear m8's camera over exposes highlights :eek:
[One (M8) General] th3:
During low light and night, the updated camera is looking worse. I can barely get a useable shot even in home lighting. Dear God, I hope I'm wrong. I have the car shot left to compare, then I'll know for sure.

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[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Don't like the sound of that ?
[One (M8) General] mwatson:
Good to know the main camera has been improved. How has it improved though? Are you able to post any samples? Many thanks
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
Odd, I am not seeing Auto HDR for the front cam with the update on my US Unlocked M8. The app does tell me what phrases to use for voice capture though (too much actually, it always shows up on the screen when I open the camera app).
[One (M8) General] th3:
So if you choose selfie mode, you don't have the HDR option?

It'll be an option in the same default.xml file I mentioned. I'll check in a bit.

I have that option BTW.

Edit: these are the cam options I can change on HTC 001 in the file.

app name="Camera">
<item type="integer" name="burst_shot_count">99</item>
<item type="boolean" name="can_enable_auto_capture">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="can_enable_human_joint">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="can_enable_split_capture">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="can_enable_voice_capture">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="can_enable_zoe">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="force_3d_preview_rendering">false</item>
<item type="string" name="frontcamera_position">Right</item>
<item type="string" name="gyro_cutoff">2.5</item>
<item type="string" name="gyro_scale">0.98</item>
<item type="boolean" name="has_hardwareAccelerated">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="has_manual_capture">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="has_panorama_plus">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="has_systembar">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="is_low_end_device">false</item>
<item type="boolean" name="is_simcard_state_monitor_needed">false</item>
<item type="boolean" name="is_vga_front_cam">false</item>
<item type="boolean" name="support_front_cam_led_countdown">false</item>
<item type="boolean" name="support_panorama">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="support_same_features_for_all_cameras">false</item>
<item type="boolean" name="support_stereo_record">true</item>
<item type="boolean" name="supportZoeInVideoCapture">true</item>
</app>

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[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
I have HDR, but not Auto HDR. I assumed he was talking about a mode that automatically turns HDR on and off depending on the lighting, like the iPhone 6 and Moto X 2014 do. Did he just mean regular HDR that you have to manually switch to?
[One (M8) General] th3:
Yep :)

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[One (M8) General] hamdir:
HTC One HDR Mode Tips
[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
Few I took today.
[One (M8) General] Shan89:
Those are awesome , ty for posting them ! now i'm even more jealous on m8 camera vs m7 Q.Q hopefully we'll get those colors on m7 with official sense 6 cuz we don't have it with sense 6 port Q.Q,
[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
All of those were in auto mode, point and click. No effort whatsoever. Cannot wait until I really put some effort into the shots.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
actually Auto mode can do better results sometime and the reason is that it attempts to find a proper exposure mid point, manually finding that sweet spot is actually a little tricky so you often end up with the usual over exposed UP picture or under expose it

so the tip is:

either rely on auto focus like you did, or if the phone is struggling then manually target a medium lit area carefully, picking up a dark area will ruin your shot this is why its better to under expose it slightly and improve it with edit>custom effects later on

but yes from what I am saying Auto focus on the M8 is really doing great, those colors never seize to amaze me

Basic UltraPixel Photography rules:

Either rely on auto focus or carefully target a medium lit area (picking a dark area will over expose the image)

If you want to insure a non over exposed shot, pick a slightly brighter target and fix the under exposed photo later using gallery>edit>effects>custom

If you find the default results too sharp with exaggerated noise, reduce sharpness in the camera app>image adjustments>sharpness (-1 should be fine, -2 is off/soft)

For best HDR in daylight lock the focus by holding on a medium to bright lit target, line up your shot and shoot (in low light auto HDR is fine)
[One (M8) General] jesr:
Some nice pics here too

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tetjk/
[One (M8) General] arses:
Nice work man and congrat to htc one m8.

I'll buy it.

Really better than m7.

Sent by myself, without help :))
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
But the camera is "crap" :laugh:

Literally can't wait just for that camera, any M7 fan should want his camera improved
[One (M8) General] Sensamic:
So funny people saying the camera is good...........

It isn't. Every single picture posted here lacks a LOT of detail compared to other flagship phones.

Don't lie to yourself.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
We are commenting on the actual results, that is the actual 4MP overall image quality, focus, color balance and range, detail in the dark areas and not MPs, or pixel count, we all know it's limited in size

And of course being HTC fans we compare them with the previous M7

And every other flagship doesn't nearly get close to every other thing screaming quality on the m8, don't lie to yourself and Grow up
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
And the trolls return
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Funny how people used to bash the Desire HD/Sensation cameras for their results despite being 8MP all the way back when the iPhone was 5MP with no flash! The bashing was about picture quality and I remember clearly hearing "who cares about specs" all the time

Now that HTC is focusing on picture quality and actually achieving it in all situations and conditions, voila MP becomes the most important angle

We all want more of these pixels, but it's really not the end of all
[One (M8) General] AndroidGuru332:
It's definitely better in low light situations.. a huge difference. And overall I'm loving some of the effects.. plus the camera is just one aspect of the m8.. ?

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Just took these in fairly low light conditions
[One (M8) General] SuperMarioGalaxy:
Yes, I already ordered the Z2. I just came to see what's the M8 to compare but I don't like it as much. It just seems inferior in so many ways. I don't like the design either.

My posts might've been written in a harsh manner and I apologize for that, but what I said wasn't trolling.
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
love giving a first thanks out..
[One (M8) General] CandyAndy:
But it is crap :/ and I don't say this to bash HTC. I love HTC, I really wish they would beat Samsung who just makes ugly plastic phones. However for example these above pictures, they look fantastic when you look at them in a smaller size. However immediatly when you pull them up fullscreen you start to notice the lack of detail which is due to the low pixel count in the camera sensor.

I am not yet sure if Like this over the top bokeh effects also which the camera seems to bring up, it was also an issue with the M7 camera.

These pictures are good enough to send to your friends through whatsapp etc, but for example I have to travel a lot and take pictures of exhibitions to my company its not enough. Sure I could use a "real camera" but I have enough to carry already so I prefer to have great phone camera. Galaxy Note series has good enough picture quality for my purposes but I just don't get the same passion using Note as I do with HTC phones.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
The M7 was phone of the year despite the UltraPixel camera, which is not bad because you do gain in per pixel detail, speed and low light, i used it the whole of 2013 and it was actually super useful thanks to abilities, Zoes and video highlights

my only problem with it was image quality issues like colors, exposure and contrast and not really the pixel count, the M8 picture quality looks like a great improvement, they refined it and made the most out of this sensor, last year auto mode was hopeless without manual effort, but the m8 just look at the pictures and disregard size, you wouldn't dream of a 4MP phone photo with this quality, the vivid color range is almost dslr quality

Bottomline you are missing out on the sequel of the best phone ever made just for the stupid camera zoom, you know your priorities for sure but I am just trying to put some perspective, most reviews are giving this phone 9/10 despite complaining about the MP, trusted reviews were literally floored, the software incredibly refined and its design/build is out of this world

All this negativity in the media is coming from some Samsung pay cheques we had the same story when the m7 launched last year and then it all faded away, eventually became the phone of the year

[MENTION=1927729]CandyAndy[/MENTION] no mate, I actually hate the bokeh effect the most, it's flawed and shouldn't have been released before fixing the alogorithm, I can get cleaner results using the M7 manual version of the same effect, like I said it's the color range that surprised me the most, never seen such color balance / gammut from a smartphone camera, when it makes me want it over the m7 it should tell you something, as for zoom I can't say a word it depends on your needs but a camera should be judged on its results and not count, it's a 4MP cam but a great 4MP cam superior than many of higher count and actually gives a hard time for most of last year efforts, you can't call it crap for its a small size, you can just say it doesn't fullfill your needs (all of my iPhone colleagues respect this camera)
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
samples by Rick Takagi are pilling up

I found his comments interesting (about panorama shots)

Official info about this camera:

HTC One M8 Camera page

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one more example why the M7/M8 cameras are under estimated
[One (M8) General] sbiricuda:
The posted pics are a little confusing to me.

I see some wonderful shots (like those on Flickr) but also some average pics, like the ones taken in the red/orange phone store.

I'm having a hard time in making up my mind.

I don't own the phone (yet?) but it would be great if someone wrote down a sort of "how to" play with settings to get the best result.

E.g. I own a Samsung Captivate Glide and I was a little let down by the 8 MP camera. In a first time i thought it was no good.

Some people here on xda gave me a couple of advices and I found out that the macro option was really good even for shots in a distance.

If someone has advices or explanations to give, well.. feel free :) maybe a whole new thread could be an idea.
[One (M8) General] ryanjsoo:
Wow, those look nice, even on my 22inch monitor, every pixel is really taken advantage of, colour range is also impressive, digital zoom is rubbish, not sure why people would need it when they can crop or simply move the phone closer to the object, lack of ois is a bit disappointing however. Does the phone have HDR mikes btw?, specs doesn`t state it but some reviews mention better audio recording, also how is this high light blowout issue, can it be fixed?,is low light improved?, thanks in advance for anything you can say about these issues.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Sorry I got confused, still no auto HDR for both cameras, sorry for the hasty comments
[One (M8) General] th3:
This was a 4.4.3 (2.22.401.5) compare I was doing for myself before this OTA. I focus on low light and night camera performance, and so I tend to go outside and shoot my car headlights to capture the LEDs and the xenon bulbs in a fairly dark street with a lamp in the background, as one of the tests. I look for image acuity and quality, lowest noise, good colour reproduction and balance, and good focus and sharpness (as well as the obvious others). I was playing about with the settings for the best capture.

- Night mode wasn't of any use.

- Auto AWB was the best by far.

- I always zoom in, get a focus, then zoom out, then let it focus, or manually, and take the shot.

This was Auto mode with auto focus. The ISO I cap at 200 max and EV -0.5. Sharpening at -1.

This was Manual mode with manual focus on the headlight. ISO capped at 100 max, shutter 1/15, EV -0.5, sharpening at -1 - by far the best shot.

Now going to take the 4.4.4 shots...

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Those pics have lost quality massively after uploading!

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Fixed! ;)

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[One (M8) General] hamdir:
a little confused, where is your comparison shots?
[One (M8) General] th3:
Not at a computer yet so can't crop and upload to a site, without massive IQ loss.

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[One (M8) General] OverTheBelow:
Just got my M8 a couple of days ago. Really satisfied with the camera and the freedom of manual options, as well as the ufocus feature. It's certainly not perfect but it's absolutely useable for social media and impressing friends etc.

Messing about with ufocus; AUTO mode with max ISO 200 (exif 1/40; iso 125):

Click to see full res uncompressed (for you pixel peepers).
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
1st hdr with brightest spot lock

2nd hdr without brightest spot lock

3rd auto mode just point and shot and auto focus ! Didn't touch the screen
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
I think HTC toned down the saturation a tiny bit in the latest update. I used to always set saturation to -0.5 because colors looked more true to life to me that way and not so neon, but now it doesn't look so bad when left at the default level. Seems like they reduced it by about 0.25 in terms of the saturation setting scale. Can anyone else confirm? Wish I had a second M8 with the older firmware.
[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
Finally got the update! Feel left out that "crop me in" wasn't included in this version. Anyways.

I feel that the camera does indeed have a better auto algorithm. It proves so even in low light conditions. Due to apparent reasons I couldn't make another comparative photo to distinguish between two but here's my photo that came out really nice, fully automatic in tricky list when my friend celebrated his 27th birthday today...

Unedited
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Yea I have the same problem I need a phone with the old firmware maybe I'll try on my cousins dual SIM version before ur gets the ota

I can confirm two things though, sharpness behavior has changed and HDR is still with the same old behavior, requiring a lock to brightest, which us annoying as the 2012 One X had the best calibrated point and shoot HDR out there (still)
[One (M8) General] th3:
Unsure but here's my 77% cropped car nightshots comparing. I'm sitting inside a car right 15ft infront in all cases and its all dark, 3-4am, with the same street lamp and my car headlights on.

All auto, auto focus, ISO 200 max, sharpness 0.

4.4.3 vs 4.4.4

vs.

Manual, manual focus at the headlights, AWB, ISO 100 max, 1/13 shutter, sharpness 0.

4.4.3 vs 4.4.4

vs.

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