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[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
4.4.4 Update

Just barely got my international unlocked update and after some few tests i can confirm that the saturation isnt reduced, but it got a diferent way in the way the camera thinks bright red, purple, green colors (flowers for example). It may just be my opinion, it isnt better or worse its different the way it thinks raw bright color, thus it may result in saturation shift. As for the sharpness filter, if you can live with oversharpening to bright reflection spots of objects, then you will find the defalut setting of 0 sharpening to be excelent (but it comes down to a personal preference) i may be as bold as to say that in most conditions you could increase it to sharpen good light scenes. Personaly i do not see noise sharpening in the following pictures where the settings are (all auto, and sharpness set to +1).

White balance is slightly set to warmer in post processing with HTC Gallery app, because i think that the M8 still has a colder color tone then normal (of this issue i have not seen any change). HDR`s i cannot confirm as it rains here and i cannot find any contrasting exposure situations, yet.

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[One (M8) General] th3:
I'm seeing increased sharpening in the night shots tho. The colour balancing algorithm is either different or tweaked to be slightly colder now IMHO.

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[One (M8) General] starbase64:
no problem...
[One (M8) General] Seraz007:
Slightly off-topic question

I have rubbed off the 'coating' on the back lens

Does that make the lens more susceptible to scratches?

Appreciate the reply
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I have been trying zoom to lock focus in HDR, the result are insane, its wonder that this phone can take the best HDR ever but it's hidden and require manual effort
[One (M8) General] xsardax:
When you do that, do you also lock on brightest spot and then zoom out?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Yup
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Amazing
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Manual 2 seconds ISO 100 auto focus , only edit was to crop squarish
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
How exactly do you change exposure point in HDR? Even if I lock AF/AE on the brightest spot or darkest spot in HDR, it doesn't change how the photo looks.
[One (M8) General] Scandiacus:
Some shots by me, all edited with vscocam.
[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
A seasonal wallpaper I've just made.
[One (M8) General] andreilica:
Some new shots. All using manual mode.

Are they pretty good? :D
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
Pictures after 4.4.4 update

So got a chance to play around with HDR, and i can confirm that the trick where picking the brightest on the sky usualy gets the best exposure values

1. picture is all auto, no focus point picked

2.Hdr with no focus point picked

3. HDR with viewfinder pointed to the sky locked AE/AF and then switched back to the scene (with everything locked), i can say that the white balance is way better then before the update (at least in HDR mode), can anyone confirm?

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[One (M8) General] thanito:
One hypothetical question: when M8 EYE gets released in many countries ( if so) ,since all the hardware is exactly the same, do you thing that why could change the actual 4mp camera for the 13mp one if it proves to be better? Just a thought.. Since we won't have problems with drivers etc
[One (M8) General] chobits:
beautiful!

i just love how the noise add up and beautify those pics even though maybe unintended
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Anyone with shutter lag in manual mode ?
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
Not a chance, maybe the software can be ported but as far as the camera module, i dont think its going to match into place, expecially in a phone that has everything crammed down and no free inside space unused.

There is no chance that the 13 mp sony sensor from a few years ago will be better then the amount of detail the M8 camera can gather. But i guess this comes down to a personal preferance, 100% sharrp vs 250% blurr in lack of detail. (over all i never seen anyone zoom in into a picture, myself included, and if you happen to zoom in, you wont get any more detail then the fully fit picture that suports undersampling, maybe the lumia 1020, pure view 808)
[One (M8) General] thanito:
I guess that since everything is the same in the phone though, it should be plug n play, meaning we might could just remove the 4mp cam and install the new one. Not sure abt the quality though, it might be as you say but I'm still waiting for reviews and samples.
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
sadly everything is not plug and play, otherwise we would all have the ability to dual boot windows/android, and thats just an easy software trick. A diferent hardware would require diferent drivers and maybe a diferent HBOOT.

Of course i am not a software ingeneer to confirm that, so take that with a grain of salt.
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
That slow motion option does nothing absolutely ! Can anyone confirm this ?

Viper Rom 3.0 with latest firmware
[One (M8) General] th3:
I never do camera zoom but on a captured picture, if it's not landscape, I'm always zooming in and cropping, so always looking for the pixel clarity and sharpness above everything.

Everyone has their own preferences, and one of my majors is, real life colours. I don't look for "picaresque", I look for replication of my eyes.

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[One (M8) General] sameer1807:
Is it just me or has night time noise been reduced in the 4.4.4 firmware with eye features? Seems so to me.. Indoors and out,noise at night has reduced
[One (M8) General] th3:
Works for me, slowed down recording.

Stock EU unbranded firmware.

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[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
It's not slow at all ! Check the screen shot and look at the frame rate its not even 30fps
[One (M8) General] thanito:
Dude, where did you find these settings? I cannot set quality in video unless I am in normal FHD mode but yet I cannot see 800x480 option neither slomo or normal fps.

But I don't have any problem with slow motion video recording though.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Pocketlint on the M8 eye update

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/131266-htc-one-m8-update-welcome-to-the-htc-eye-experience
[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] can you answer this question :)
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
I figured it out. When HDR is enabled, you can't just tap and hold the brightest spot on the screen to change and lock the exposure. That won't do anything, which is why I was confused before. You have to actually point the camera directly at the brightest spot in the scene (if the sky is the brightest spot, point your phone towards the sky), then lock exposure there, and then point the camera back the way you originally wanted to take the picture.
[One (M8) General] th3:
He's not using the stock ROM either.

On the stock ROM, the slow motion recording works fine. And it records in 1280x720 at 11.xxx Mbps bit rate.

You press the slow mo icon and it plays back slow, unpress it, and it plays at normal speed again.

Probably my best shot till date with the M8...

Completely pitch black, dark night, no flash and no lights around anywhere except the distant town lights you see in the picture.

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[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
Yes I know that but I was talking about this one:

But I figured it out how to do this:

1: zoom in, lock on the brightest spot

2: use the slider to zoom out!!!

3: frame the shot and take the picture :D
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
You ppl definitely didn't look at my screenshot even ! Am not talking bout the normal slow motion mode but if u go to camera settings while on auto mode and check video quality you will see an option for 480p slow motion video which am sayin does nothing actually ! Plz check my screen shot

And am on viper Rom 3.0.0 which uses exactly stock camera .
[One (M8) General] th3:
You're not reading our replies properly.

We said, those options DO NOT exist on stock HTC firmware. These are the stock video options:

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[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
So u sayin those video options I have aren't stock ? I didn't read anything on viper rom 3.0.0 bout those video options ! Can anyone confirm this ?

Edit: okay I checked the change log again and it said New video options ! not sure if it viper Rom feature or what !
[One (M8) General] Calz-:
Taken at the az state fair no edits or anything. Just focused on the Ferris wheel and that's all. Beautiful shot with a good camera.

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[One (M8) General] iggdawg:
Just speculating, but if I had to guess I'd say maybe your version of Viper has Jishnu's camera mod (or something similar/derivative) baked in. the options you mention are not stock.
[One (M8) General] xsardax:
Ingeresting comparison:

http://unleashthephones.com/2014/10/21/htc-one-m8-eye-vs-ultrapixel-camera-samples/

I can't fully compare pics because I have no PC here :)

Conclusion seems fair. Although it looks that M8E has a bit better dynamic range.
[One (M8) General] InsaneR29:
did anyone find a really good photo editor, I mean the one in the gallery is good, but there are not a lot of presets...
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
If you like presets, pixlr o matic is a good one

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Using the Sophia preset
[One (M8) General] th3:
Is there any mod possible to be able to zoom in to your pictures in HTC Gallery?

What a huge shortcoming.

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[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Double tap and / or pinch ...
[One (M8) General] th3:
I mean, blow up your pictures ... It doesn't work in HTC Gallery.

Get a normal picture, like 400x500, and open it in Gallery. You can't zoom in at all. You just get a distant view.

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[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Oh

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[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Ugh what the heck.

How do I select multiple images to delete? I know that it could have been done before this update but now I can't select multiple images for anything.

Ended up deleting all the photos/pictures I had on my phone :silly: Luckly I had it backed up on my computer but still. I tried pressing and holding, it doesn't give a check to multi-select, deleting only deletes that file, tried the three dots on the album ... deleting there deletes everything, don't see it on the vertical ... (dots - options).

I'm missing something simple here somewhere :eek:
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
enter galery app, tap the album from witch you wish to delete, then tap the 3 dots, then delete, and you have your multi select
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
haha, thanks, I knew it was something stupid that I was missing. :good:
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

FreeDCam 3.3.1 supports raw & dng now, raw demosaic directly to dng or directly raw output.

the zip file contains androiddng.apk, this little app decode m8 raw to dng directly on device.

to use rename a pic to test.raw and move to internal storage, then open the app an push the button.

in the next menu chose photoshop express or photo mate 2 or other app that can handle dng files.

download: http://ul.to/onc5h1fa

app is alpha, dev is troopii
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Noticing a few negative comments about the camera after 4.4.4 update , what exactly are people seeing ? I haven't really noticed much of a change really .

Pretty poor update ... A few silly gimmicks that get used probably once a year ?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
low light quality on auto mode is now hopeless even if you cap the ISO, i think HTC increased shutter speed in auto hence the reduction in quality

tip to current M8 owners: don't you dare take low light shots with auto mode on default, it's a mess, either rely on night mode for steady shots without motion or do even better with manual, for auto mode and motion (ie: people) your best hope is capping the ISO and reducing the sharpness and maybe flash as well

or for better results simply use A Better Camera cap the ISO around 200 to 400, leave DRO On as is and expect wonders, DRO is a form of software HDR which simply gives you best exposure out of every shot, its too bad this app can not benefit from imagechip so keep in mind the shutter is a little slower

[MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION] thanks i will have a look but why does it need all this renaming effort?
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
not needed if you select dng output, only for raw shots (later converting).

androiddgng app is not longer supported!
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
So has anyone else seen the poor low light performance since update ?

Surely if HTC had increased the shutter speed it would just make images darker ... The sensor hasn't changed , nor has the f2 lens and ISO is ... ISO ?
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

swipe left and right to open and close menu

[IMG="FreeDCam"]http://www11.pic-upload.de/22.10.14/9n76ktduusbw.gif[/IMG]
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Exactly it's a lot darker in low light hence the shutter is surely faster and then you have to rely on ISO which you know...
[One (M8) General] alex88bg:
My 2 low light shots , i am new with this camera thingy,let alone manual :)

Both pictures manual.
[One (M8) General] Billchen0014:
School Latin Tour Photos, these are on the beautiful island of Sicily, top is Syracuse, the bottom is the largest temple ever attempted (and never finished ) [IMG="Reply if you can't see the pic"]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/--09Pv8v9dQU/VEiISpNkwLI/AAAAAAAAE2o/aaEJi8A3i9M/w1596-h903-no/IMAG0956_1.jpg[/IMG]

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[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
the sunset one is just awsome, it could make a good wallpaper, (if you upload the full resolution) :)

the one with the building is also nice and steady, but i dont know if its the desired efect, you should have lowered the shutter speed letting in more light at the cost of having to remain steady a bit longer

Overall nice artsy pictures!!!
[One (M8) General] riginal:
yay, auto in low light went from hopeless to completely useless after the latest eye update :D
[One (M8) General] Misledz:
Decided to join in and put up my album :)

https://plus.google.com/104204314100272680201/posts/CeSaLktD5mu
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
largest temple ever attempted and finished is right here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baalbek

http://whc.unesco.org/en/list/294/
[One (M8) General] troopii:
In freedcam you can set the iso. Everything > 800 iso produce noisy pics.

You can decrase the noise also with lowering the exposure.

Manual shutter speed come soon.
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
Auto mode vs hdr mode

Pictures have suffered some slight white balance shift from the gallery app, as i consider the stock white balance regarding the mode is slightly to cold (blue), but it may only be my opinion

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As you can clearly see the auto mode is better in terms of edge filter. HDR works better after the update in terms of exposure and Auto mode works way better in terms of contouring shapes, notice the image sampler MItchell-Netravali type ringing filter. From a far it has its use, from full 100% crop it may give an ideea of bad photoshop

I do not have to say witch is auto mode and witch is HDR mode (tip hdr usualy is brighter)
[One (M8) General] riginal:
I'm a noob at photography so be nice :D

Bazar:

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Rainy day:
[One (M8) General] th3:
Everyone here pawns me in taking good pictures with the M8. That's all I think every time I see a new picture posted [emoji26]

I guess I only know how to test things, like my job, lol

Heartbroken

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[One (M8) General] redpoint73:
Photography is a little bit of knowledge, and a lot of practice.

Just read up on some basic photography tips (to understand the basic concepts, exposure triangle, composition, etc.) and practice, practice, practice.

If anyone tells you they just started off taking great pictures without doing this, they are probably lying.

Also keep in mind that even pros often take many, many photos, and often throw out the majority of them, as only a minority will be truly great. So don't let a few (or even many) bad shots discourage you.
[One (M8) General] nwgelias:
Im happy with the camera of the M8.
[One (M8) General] one-option:
Hi people:

(I'm talking about rear camera)

well let me start with this:

HTC M8 need an update to the camera & a fix for handling over lighted environment, like neon lights & daylight images, where images look over washed.

I compared images taken by iPhone 5s & 6 also with LG G3 & Samsung Galaxy S4, and I found that the M8 is able to take good images like the other smartphones, it is not the best but still it is good.

Hope that the Android 5.0 update will bring that to the M8.
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
can you post some examples of the light handling you speak off, maybe its been discused and there is a work around or some fix, like adjusting the exposure saveing settings in a custom camera etc.
[One (M8) General] th3:
Cheers bud!

I shoot with a DSLR and have some knowledge [emoji4]

I only point and shoot with my phone though but I like it to look real and natural, more than anything. I want it at such a stage where very little fiddling is required for an accurate snap. So not photography per say, just random snapping with good visual acuity.

Truthfully, I haven't treated M8 as a photography tool yet but looking at some of these pictures, it really is impressive what people are achieving, and it's giving me second thoughts.

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[One (M8) General] afhum:
Hey guys. I don't know if this is shared before but I think you guys would find this app to be useful like I do.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.worldiety.athentech.perfectlyclear

I don't really use the app's camera though. I prefer to snap using the M8's stock camera, then share the photo to the app through the Gallery app.

I love how it makes some washed out photos more lively yet natural, how it fixes some tinted photos (rare but it happens), and how it fixes dark areas without requiring to use HDR mode. I also just found out that they have a noise removal tool as well after reinstalling the app. [emoji4]
[One (M8) General] PcFish:
I do the same with Snapseed. It's owned by Google. They haven't really updated it in a while, but it works perfectly for what I need it for. And it's a Google app so it's free.
[One (M8) General] afhum:
Yeah tried that before. It's awesome but requires many steps to go through. I like Perfectly Clear's 'one step' fix. But yeah free is good. Might try Snapseed again one day.
[One (M8) General] PcFish:
Don't know when the last time you used it was, but there's an auto button on there now. When I take a pic in the camera I share to Snapseed, click auto, then upload from there.
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
How are people getting on with the lens coating (or lack of) since polishing it off ? Still nice and clean or scratching up again ... Wondering about doing mine ?

Cheers
[One (M8) General] th3:
No scratches on mine but it's not very clear at all. It's pretty muddy actually and paranoid about it all the time, whether my pictures should be better...

My default coating had scratches running through the mid pinhole so I had to get rid of the coating.

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[One (M8) General] redpoint73:
I'm actually in the same boat. If I want quality images, I'll grab my DSLR. My M8 is merely for spur-of-the-moment snapshots, novelty photos to easily share with friends/family, and the like.

I can't claim to get the quality of some of the images here on my M8; as I simply haven't taken the time to practice. I think a lot of it revolves around going to manual mode, and just practicing.

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No more scratches. Once the coating is removed, its gone and my feeling is the underlying glass is not that easy to scratch. I polished off the coating maybe 2-3 months ago, and I don't see a single scratch on the glass.

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Odd, I wonder what is causing it to be "muddy". My pics are crystal clear since removing the coating.
[One (M8) General] th3:
I'll post a picture of my lens to show ya later... It's not quite right, at all.

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[One (M8) General] afhum:
Just tried it again few hours ago and I'm keeping it. But from what I see, the Auto button only corrects the color and contrast. Unlike the Fix button on Perfectly Clear (PC), I believe. If you read the details in PC's app page, it gets interesting.

I would suggest trying the app first but I'm not forcing [emoji4]

Original image (stock camera, auto mode):

PC's "Fix!" (it looks closer to stock image, but it's less washed out, and you can still see the 'outline' of the focused object):

Snapseed's "Automatic" (unchanged, which is color correction at +50 and contrast correction at +50, and it does what it does):

But really, the other 'one tap/step' buttons like Fix Dark and Fix Tint on PC app are really useful as well.
[One (M8) General] one-option:
Ok I will provide an example and please try this also

take two pictures for a laptop (screen on) ........

in the first one focus on the screen and take the picture.

like this

[IMG="focus on screen"]http://s22.postimg.org/bd1z2e34h/IMAG0170.jpg[/IMG]

in the second one focus on the keyboard of the laptop (my laptop color is black) and take a picture

[IMG="focus on keyboard"]http://s22.postimg.org/426gq9mq9/IMAG0169.jpg[/IMG]

in this one screen is over lighted,and any smartphone camera can do better than this !!!!!!!

I think there is some wrong with my camera

please notice that both pictures without flash and in auto mode

I'm running 4.4.4 latest selfi update
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
there is nothing wrong with your camera, you have a complete missunderstanding of your phones camera, ultra pixels camera gathers way more light, hence it will mostly over expose bright parts, and the fact that the software will not let you go lower then 100 iso means that you need to find workarounds, there are plenty of tips on this thread. If you will only use this camera as a point and shoot in auto mode, you are better off buying a pocket camera
[One (M8) General] one-option:
it is ok
[One (M8) General] myth1001:
Captured with HDR
[One (M8) General] Eiad Ajam:
any other smartphone camera will capture the same result

you have to take it HDR and lower the brightness of your screen to get better result
[One (M8) General] xsardax:
You simply don't know how to take a picture.
[One (M8) General] one-option:
Ok if that will let you feel good, but still I think they should update the camera app to get a better pictures.

the sensor should deal with light in a better way, let's hope Android 5.0 will solve this issue
[One (M8) General] xsardax:
Some stuff can be fixed or upgraded, but general issue that you have is due to trying to manual focus on certain areas wich under/over expose other areas. This is due to bigger sensor than on most phone cameras out there. Autofocus gives perfect results, and manual mode can even outperform that. Didn't mean to insult you, just saying that camera on M8 is poor its biased statement.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
If you don't use auto focus on the M8 you better throw this phone and stop nagging around here, its an established fact

The latest update improved daylight results even further, I found sharpness -1.5 is the best for me, just enough sharpness to pop out the results with no artifacts

I took some amazing pictures yesterday all in extreme sun light
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=4758674]Eiad Ajam[/MENTION]

Select HDR with flash and focus on screen (Laptop)
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
My Mrs has been moaning about her snaps lately ... Quite shocked how bad her lens coating was when I looked .

Before

After cleaning (alcohol/ cotton bud)
[One (M8) General] akbisw:
From Liberty Island. HDR