yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
But what happens if that 13MP non UltraPixel takes better shots than the M8 :eek: Disaster.

Is it impossible for HTC to create an 8MP UltraPixel camera(in the least)? Perhaps they could have gone with a plastic version(people can already know then it's going to be cheaper and shouldn't expect a lot from it) then tested out new camera tech with it, like a higher pixel camera with UltraPixels?

I'll admit I'm not entirely up to scratch with the concept behind UltraPixel so I'm not sure if it can be done with higher pixel count or not, there probably has to be some reason they settled on 4MP with UltraPixel...

As for the Prime, ugh I don't know, the screen size on the M8 now seems fine for me for a phone, I don't want to head to bigger and bigger screens so I'll probaly not buy into that unless the device is the exact same size(dimensions) as the M8 but they only improved the design to include a larger screen on it...
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
The sensor already in there on 816, it takes good photos but the shutter is not nearly as fast and 1:1 is a little smudgy

Here is my explanation of the large pixel / pixel count / sensor size dilemma

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51723846&postcount=508
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
The deal behind the ultra pixel is well.. very simply put..

High MP cameras need sensors with lots of "pixels", now you need to fit this in a really tiny space, making each "pixel" on the sensor really small. (Thus only a tiny amount of light can hit each pixel)

The Ultra Pixel cameras idea is that, by lowering the MP count and thus making each pixel bigger, it should make the image quality much better in terms of color accuracy and especially noise levels (grainy pictures).

Also it has a bigger aperture, which is just a fancy term on how big the "hole" is on the camera... Bigger hole = more light = "better" images (not as blurry) in low light.

Though if it really is the case here, I don't know.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Anyway coming from the M7 I have one thing to say, I really dont understand all this nagging about over exposure on the M8 it makes non sense

Yes the M7 used to be an over exposure challenge in daylight but really not the M8

I am keeping exposure at default EV0 (in order to keep low light shots bright) and really there is nothing I can do to make it over expose in outdoor sunny daylight, in auto focus it will never over expose unless its backlight which is normal for any camera, so people complaining about overexposure are surely forcing the focus into dark area but otherwise I consider overexposure fixed on the M8

Also I finally succeeded in getting my first usable ufocus shot. You guys are right it only works,with portraits and food shots
[One (M8) General] md1008:
Here is a picture of my almost complete tattoo. I think it came out pretty good. The close up is not zoomed in it was just taken close up. I was using stock Google camera gpe ROM. I definitely think the camera is better in sense. This might make tolerate sense for a minute.

Still I think the Nexus 5 takes over all better pictures. Really wish they would made this an 8mega/ultra pixle phone...oh well maybe the m9
[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
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[One (M8) General] predator21:
Taken some shots of my aquarium... n i am blown away with clarity... in low light its far ahead of my samdung note 3

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[One (M8) General] grentuu:
Having read few reviews of the camera and reading the thread. I'm hooked. I have the M8 but have flashed the GPE RUU which is a total conversion.

This seems to diminish (for the moment) the abilities of the camera.

Is anyone in the thread on GPE (not rom, full GPE) and can they say what differences this has made.

This may make me go back to sense.
[One (M8) General] md1008:
I have noticed a difference. I don't care much for sense, but the camera is a lot better IMO. So far using miexpress(miui) launcher so far not to bad
[One (M8) General] hudsoncouto:
God f*cking HOW?!?!
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
Take that S5. Unreal shutter speed.

HTC M8
[One (M8) General] xPhantom:
At a small gathering we had last weekend!
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Easy, keep holding the shutter button for burst capture
[One (M8) General] chobits:
Is it me or those photos uploaded via tapatalk degrading so much in term of quality?
[One (M8) General] mushages:
yes for full quality upload via Dropbox or flicker
[One (M8) General] iggdawg:
Some early morning tree blossoms. Frickin love tree blossoms. Only get like 2 weeks or so before they're gone.

Same image with just "auto-enhance" from the stock gallery editor. It pops a little more but gets a little noisy when zoomed in.

Same subject, but taken with HDR. Not an ideal HDR situation, but it adds a little. I'm impressed with how clean the HDR is compared to some of my other devices (the One X+ comes to mind). A lot less funk at light/dark borders. I'm guessing a lot has to do with shutter speed and stitching images together that are closer to identical.
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
I've been uploading my photos using the xda app . . Will this degrade quality? If so how do I upload via Flickr?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Duo Camera effects, landscape mode, filters and Photoshop 16MP upscale filter
[One (M8) General] grentuu:
Apologies - Ignore
[One (M8) General] kungfubo-xda:
I'm totally satisfied with the color accuracy and sharpness of M8 camera. See the first photo. I never see cleaner photo taken by phone camera than that.

But i believe that M8 has much narrower dynamic range than Samsung camera sensors, based on my experience with Note 2 and note 3. This is what people are complaining about. You either get darkness everywhere, or somewhere overexposed. For M8, The only way to put bright subject and dark subject in one photo is HDR, after reading so many posts in this thread. I know this is challenging for any phone, but Note is doing way better than M8.

Second and third photos were taken few days ago. I was very disappointed. I lost my Note, but I will take some photos for comparison using my friend's Note.

As to resolution, I think the difference between M8 4MP and Note 3 13MP is not as significant as what the reviews said. See the 4th photo. The subject is a tiny lab sample. I used my firends' Note 3 to see if it can get better photo, but the difference was not as big as i expected.
[One (M8) General] grentuu:
Default on GPE
[One (M8) General] kungfubo-xda:
i forgot to mention night/low light shot. my conclusion is: M8 beat Note in every way.

However, in medium light, Note can also take beautiful photos.

First and second: M8, very little noise

third and fourth: my old note 3, too much noise in low light, but can take some good photos in medium/good light
[One (M8) General] kungfubo-xda:
I found two photos take by my old note 2, just to support my opinion that M8 has narrower dynamic range than note.

in these photos, both dark area and bright subject were well captured by note 2. Dark area is visible but bright area is not overexposed. this is the only weakness of M8 camera.

they were taken by auto mode. no change to settings at all.
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
That airport shot was a bit bad...I don't think you focused on the right area there, I can't really tell who or what's going on in the INSIDE of the building but no problem for the back :eek:

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Wow those floors are super clean, clean enough to eat off of. Where is this?
[One (M8) General] twistmycap:
Apple blossom this morning
[One (M8) General] predator21:
Few more
[One (M8) General] kungfubo-xda:
I tried different tricks but didn't get any luck.

I either get dark faces or overexposure

the super clean floor belongs to Nanjing 3D Printing Institute:)
[One (M8) General] ashouhdy:
with my previous purple tinted m7 it took ages to focus on distant night landscape and mostly were out of focus what about the m8 ? focus speed at night time and i say really night times as moon litted sea scapes ? what about purple tint ?
[One (M8) General] iggdawg:
I went through purple tint on about 4 M7s before I gave up and got the M8. So from someone paid fully familiar with the issue, I have zero purple tint with the M8 at any temperature. I take the obligatory under-desk shots for giggles when the device gets into the high 30s for temperature. No purple. No green. Nothing but gorgeous. For reference, I have "ov ov4688 4M".

Sent from my HTC One M8
[One (M8) General] slainte79:
apple blossom
[One (M8) General] Matt:
Mine so far.
[One (M8) General] meleelord:
The first 2 are auto and the third is HDR:
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
HTC already confirmed that they have completely addressed the purple tint, check the M8 links in my sig (also later m7s are fixed)

You people think HTC enjoyed having returned phones and they weren't watching

I have to tell you I nearly did bother to take any photo beyond the usable photo or low light with M7, as daylight was always a struggle to get right and most pictures ends up yellowish

I took over 500 shots since yesterday with M8, does it tell you anything? The phone is simply a joy to use as a camera, especially daylight

I tired my hardest in a full day outdoor in the middle eastern sun, in auto mode and auto focus the phone simply resists over exposure like a plague, in fact I even tried to make it over expose and it refuses, its only in backlight that it suffers and even then usually it's a quick instant fix with reduced EV or HDR
[One (M8) General] bailz2506:
Love it
[One (M8) General] artkrime:
Airport in Albuquerque, New Mexico.
[One (M8) General] weedolo9y:
Sent from my m8
[One (M8) General] ashouhdy:
Thx guys for reply ... What about focusing at night .. As in landscapes or seascapes is it still slow?

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You must tab to focus on the dark faces and ofcourse the background will be overblown.

The solution is to force flash on or hdr with flash. To conserve background and dynamic range

Thats why a phone with a Xenon flash will take this photo brilliantly as the flash will lightn the dark faces preserving background.
[One (M8) General] predator21:
Tried various modes today...n totally impressed specially in macro n manual mode.
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
Stock gallery filters

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[One (M8) General] predator21:
I wld say beautiful ..adorable kid...
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
Snapshot of my best friends' cat. Full auto with uFocus.

our old, beloved dog, minding his own business. really saddens me that this might be the last photo I was able to take of him since he has cancer in a pretty advanced state...

Manual mode in low light for what its worth.
[One (M8) General] daniel.fanucchi:
would be nice to see the difference between M7 and M8 if someone owns them both I would love to see the same pictures taken with both with the same point of focus selected
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
i have done some testing, while the built-in gallery custom filters is super powerful

for example you can slightly under expose a shot to prevent burns and re-expose it later, the detail is in there

sadly there is a dark side, the stock gallery effects greatly increase digital noise when applied over the shot, if you do the very same effect on Photoshop you can maintain the same quality of the image

be careful you will greatly degrade your image if you apply filters on top of each other
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Heartbreaking to hear? It happened to me 4 years ago, I miss her every day.

It took me a year or so before I could look at them again, in time to come your be glad your got as many as you did.

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Do it for you later
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
Thanks for ur words.

Yeah, I live with that dog for over 16 years now. Even tho he can barely move he's still giving me a warm welcome every time I visit my moms home where he lives as well.

He's a fighter tho. The pet doc already declared him dead half a year ago. Really surprises me how much strengh there still is.

Therefore u can imagine that photo is worth alot to me ;)
[One (M8) General] AndroidInsanity:
Edited with snapseed!! Love it! Yorkshire,England
[One (M8) General] Darknites:
Yep that's England alright with random traffic cone.

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Dude do you have a thread for getting the best out of this camera? If you don't please make one and link here.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
sorry bro i have no time for a full guide, it would splinter my brain :)

but i'm collecting notable stuff in my M8 camera collective post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51415071&postcount=8428

maybe when i feel im done ill just open a thread with all of these scattered posts quoted in one but no promises

a Desire HD grade guide however...i can't afford to waste that time on it
[One (M8) General] Darknites:
Lol no problem was just an idea and will check out your link, thanks.
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
Okay I decided to test the camera on the balcony. What a difference HDR makes!

That is with EV -.5, saturation +.5, sharpness -1. Auto focus.

EV 0, saturation +.5, sharpness -1, auto focus, HDR

EV 0, saturation +.5,sharpness -1, focus on dark area (cars), auto.

I think I like the third the best so I think I agree that this phone doesn't need any EV adjustment. The HDR is over exaggerated in my opinion but it looks the "best" even if it isn't accurate with its portrayal of the actual environment.

I am going to mess with it some more today since I have 30 minutes to kill at the doctors office and see what I can come up with but I am plenty happy with this camera. I also have it on power saver mode and it's still crazy fast. Very impressive indeed.

Edit: Tapatalk really compressed the images, I will put them on Flickr later along with whatever I catch at the doctors office.
[One (M8) General] vimto25:
Not bad quality coming from nexus 5
[One (M8) General] crazyjimbo:
Stock M8 camera, edited with the stock gallery app.
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
Thanks (:

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[One (M8) General] chobits:
Thanks for sharing :D

So M8 camera setting on HDR mode on M8 can be adjusted? such as exposure, saturation, sharpness, etc
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Ufocus

Natural depth of field

low light shutter control 4 sec, ISO 100

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not but you can lock your target, so if you find the sweet spot you can get much greater results

usually locking to the brightest or even brighter point outside the frame does the trick
[One (M8) General] AndroidInsanity:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ICPJuJLh40

Video test.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Photos from my city:

Beirut / M8 Flickr Album

most of the daylight shots are point and shoot (default EV0), with very slight brightness/saturation corrections after that

some HDR (stated in image name) with slight brightness/saturation corrections as well

most of the low light shots are manual with slowdown shutter / low ISO since the auto mode goes up to ISO 2600!

also some cropping
[One (M8) General] jaaystott:
Smashed my Mercedes up and had to make an Insurance Claim, took the photos using my M8 check them out here:

Mercedes CCD Damage
[One (M8) General] AndroidInsanity:
I don't know what it's called, but how do you get that effect of car headlights showing as a bright line?
[One (M8) General] dressanderc:
I think you're referring to light trails, and you achieve the effect by using a very slow shutter speed. (and a tripod helps as you have to be EXTREMELY still for it to turn out like you are wanting it)
[One (M8) General] AndroidInsanity:
Yeah that's it! By looks of it it can be achieved with the M8, I didn't think it was possible since the shutter speed can be slowed down but not as much as something like oppo 7a
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Some great photos :)
[One (M8) General] dressanderc:
Oh yeah, just play around with your ISO and shutter speed in manual mode and you'll be able to produce it pretty easily. Remember, though, decreasing the shutter speed means the camera has more time to take in light, so using a lower ISO will offset the difference.
[One (M8) General] AndroidInsanity:
Awesome. So you get better low light photos doing this rather than just increasing the ISO which I assume auto does?
[One (M8) General] dressanderc:
Quite possibly, yes, it depends on the user. Auto just tries to use the best ISO and shutter speed based on what you're telling it to focus on. Manual mode allows you full control on how sensitive it is to light and how much of it to let in when taking a photo. Will it be "better"? Well, that depends on finding the sweet spot for your given situation. Unfortunately there are no universal settings to take the best photos in any scenario, but the more you play with them, the better you'll get the feel for what it can do. Ultimately though, manually tweaked ISO and shutter speed settings will yield better results once you get the feel for it.
[One (M8) General] AndroidInsanity:
Thanks you helped me a lot :)
[One (M8) General] pinktheater:
I got my M8 last Thursday.

Since then I've been taking pictures and videos and I gotta say I'm satisfied with the quality (and I'm not even playing with the settings like you guys do).

My wife and friends are surprised with the quality as well :)
[One (M8) General] makatram:
Gotta be quick to get this shot.
[One (M8) General] Jbb3393:
Killer! I gotta do that now... In slow motion! ??
[One (M8) General] makatram:
Ahh.. didn't think of doing slo mo video
[One (M8) General] G-Bus:
Here are some shots I took today. The first 3 are taken with stock camera, and all the ones after are taken with Jishnu's beta camera.

Stock, Manual

2014-05-06 15.32.55 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Stock, Auto

2014-05-06 15.33.57 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Stock, HDR

2014-05-06 15.34.06 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Auto

2014-05-06 16.03.43 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Manual

2014-05-06 16.04.54 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, HDR

2014-05-06 16.04.05 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Auto

2014-05-06 16.14.06 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Manual

2014-05-06 16.16.12 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, HDR

2014-05-06 16.13.43 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Auto

2014-05-06 18.39.09 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Auto

2014-05-06 21.10.56 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Auto

2014-05-06 22.11.05 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, Auto

2014-05-06 22.11.28 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr

Jishnu's, HDR

2014-05-06 22.11.40 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr
[One (M8) General] Chance Ill:
My daughter.
[One (M8) General] crazyjimbo:
Stock camera, Ufocus applied and edited with Snapseed
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
m8

m7

Both sets of shots were just point and shoot in low light
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Dang it, it's bothering me now. I know I've seen a book with a similar chapter at one point, but I can't for the life of me recall what book it was:eek:

What book is your girl reading there:confused:
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
two things are clear, the M7 badly over expose things on auto focus and always yellow biased in terms of color balance

meanwhile it beats the M8 in low light, it uses a slow shutter for low light but at least get much better images thanks to lower ISO

i have noticed the M8 can go up ISO3200 in auto low light, which is just crazy the images look almost useless like 2012's phones, they are not slowing down the shutter at all for night which is stupid (guess they are scared from the lack of OIS) but when the primary power of the ultrapixel is low light it's an unacceptable that they've ruined the best thing about the M7 and i have the M4 (one mini) with the same OV sensor, it does great in low light as well even if it misses OIS, so right now we need to rely on manual mode for better low light performance, i really miss the great point and shoot low light results from my M7
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
on topic of side blur:

the very first moment i picked up my unit i opened it and took a shot, auto mode auto focus, both sides showed perfect focus, 90% of my shots as well

i can tell you how it occurs though: considering the sensor optical field of view which is pretty wide, it seems when you use manual focus ie: not in the center, the focus is not only in z depth but a little on the sides as well, so manual focus biased toward one side usually brings up a slight blur to the opposing side as well

this is answer both the occurrence on the M7 and M8

my sun camera day with the M8 quickly proved to me that auto focus is the best way to go, the M8 simply fights over exposure like no other phone, even at EV0, yes the dynamic range is narrower than my wishes but the phone on auto focus is willing to under expose rather than the opposite (which is great since a quick visit to the gallery or photoshop will re-expose it) and when it does happen, when you see its over or under exposing in the view finder (rarely unless its backlight) EV is so quickly at hand for instant adjustment and not hidden like Sense 5.5
[One (M8) General] daniel.fanucchi:
Thanks a lot, I would say that eye M7 is better as exposure and detail in low light and M8 is better white balance
[One (M8) General] elmojh:
CalPoly farm
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
Yesterday i went to a telcel Store where they had a "simulator" of "daylight, evening, lowlight, midnight" to promote the Nokia 1020 (i think it was). A rep started to explain me and then put the camera Lens on the simulator and showed how good it was even in lowlight and midnight. After that i get up my HTC one m8 and made the same things. Guess what?

My HTC ONE m8 just put in ridiculous that lumia thing, and after that i try now with the manual mode and well its not even necessary to say What happened.

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[One (M8) General] G-Bus:
Taken on AUTO really quick right now.

IMAG0129 by Jean Dumitrescu, on Flickr
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Low light solved

If you want higher quality in low light without effort all you have to do is switch to manual mode, leave everthing on auto especially shutter and focus, then lower ISO, the more you lower ISO the higher the quality becomes and instead the shutter will automatically slow down, so lower ISO to the sweet spot where you feel comfortable with the shutter speed and your steady hand, you can save it as your camera from settings and this mode will launch the next time you load the camera
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
I dont find where to save settings

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[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Close the M sub menu and go to settings (on the right) it's at the bottom of list
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
The saved camera can be found at the bottom of the camera list (the list where you select video, selfie etc)
[One (M8) General] altimax98:
The camera also has real time display, which slot of people hate who don't know how to use it, and you can drop ISO to 100 and drop the shutter speed real low. That will make all of the artifacts with higher ISO a non-issue while instantly capturing what you see on the screen with no shutter lag or issues.. I shoot in super low light like this all the time. Of course moving targets with these settings will be awful

Its not like a DSLR where you setup your shot with a 1/3 shutter speed and then wait after you snap.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
for a phone that got this much bashing for it's camera, its really hilarious when it's mostly the camera which is making me smile everyday with the M8

when the phone is in your pocket, it's literally begging you to take it out and grab photos

General tips:

[MENTION=1011139]billybobjones[/MENTION] can you please add a link to my camera collective post from OP?

[MENTION=535051]RSK01[/MENTION] these are great can you post them in better size please?
[One (M8) General] dschmiddi:
Verry Verry nice Jishnu's beta camera....would be cool as App, but i didn´t want to Root the Phone yet :(