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[One (M8) General] samteeee:
GREETINGS:

I'm about to buy my very first HTC phone(M8) and need some input from fellow Canadians.

I use "Prepaid" Rogers/Bell and am wondering if I should buy one of the Canadian Carriers

and then unlock/root/debrand or should I bite the bullet and buy a "Dev Edition" and then use

Canadian Radio/Roms? I need to make a decision, quickly!!

I'd appreciate any input.

P.S= I'm going through the M8 forum' big read.\!!
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Doesn't really matter. I'd just stick with the carrier phone if you're in a hurry and s off it if you want to flash other things or go full GPE etc.

Sent from my killer M8.
[One (M8) General] 09Ram:
You are better off with a Canadian model. It has more bands than the dev unit. It includes AWS which you can use with Wind, Mobilicity, and T-Mobile. Then just s-off and go with any carrier. :good:
[One (M8) General] samteeee:
Thank you guys. What you two say, make sense!

I'll go with a "Roger's" edition.
[One (M8) General] uddinf:
Is there a rogers radio .img posted by anyone?

I have converted to GPE and then flashed at&t radio but my reception still does not seem stable. I would like to try the stock rogers radio to see if its any different.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I have one at home but won't be home for a bit. You could download the ota from the OP and open it on a pc with winrar or something. I couldn't open it properly on my phone for done reason. In the ota there's a firmware.zip. in there there should be a radio.img
[One (M8) General] JohnM109R:
Does any1 have the new radio.img from bell please ....ver 1.1.6.
[One (M8) General] BrandonPrice31:
Does anyone have an issue in areas of bad reception where you'll have bars and or data icon on status bar but unable to use anything related to data? Doesn't happen often but I'm wondering if this is normal or defect in phone?
[One (M8) General] uddinf:
Thanks very much for that information. I have flashed the img in the firmware.zip from the rogers ota. I will test my LTE reception for any improvements.
[One (M8) General] BrandonPrice31:
Can someone upload the latest Rogers firmware. Zip
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
It's in the op?
[One (M8) General] BrandonPrice31:
The OTA in the OP has WWE in the .zip name. Means its world wide edition, is this still a specific upgrade for Rogers users.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
It's the Rogers one in the op. I think the phone is close to to wwe edition. I flashed 2.12.401.3 wwe fw with no issues
[One (M8) General] bobruels44:
Bars only give a loose indication of signal strength. If you go into the settings you can see the dBi that the phone actually receives, the more negative the stronger the connection.
[One (M8) General] SS2006:
Guys what is the latest rogers radio? does anyone have it in a flashable zip

I currently have UA10G, is that rogers?

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or can someone with the latest/udpated Rogers rom power up by holding power+down and tell me what the radio line reads? thanks
[One (M8) General] uddinf:
1.16 UA10G is rogers. That is the radio that is in the OTA in the OP.
[One (M8) General] yeahitsgotahemii:
Im on a Telus HTC M8. I was whelped with firewater and then achieved S-OFF with Sunshine. Worked with out any error.
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Anyone having issues with calls not coming through with Rogers? It's quite random, happens when the phone is sleeping doesn't ring on my end it theirs just goes straight to vm like phone is off.. any solutions?

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Edit.. quests I should mention I'm on ARHD 8.1 and 1.54.401.10 firmware.
[One (M8) General] tobesedated:
I did and when the calls went to VM my phone would hang up on the caller...not good as I need my phone for medical reasons. I called Rogers tech and the refreshed the network for me on their end and I haven't had a problem since. I'm running viper rom
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
I called them and they did what you were saying, we will see in time if it helps.
[One (M8) General] tobesedated:
Hope it's working for you..
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Seems to be..
[One (M8) General] samteeee:
Hi guys;

I was just wondering when you flash any custom Roms, do you choose "international or AT&T"?

Thank you.
[One (M8) General] jasonzarko:
I choose international, Never tried At&t.
[One (M8) General] tobesedated:
International.... and in most cases if the ROM uses aroma the default for is international
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
Has anyone got Rogers suretap working on the m8?
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
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[One (M8) General] yeahitsgotahemii:
firmware_2.12.401.3

So I have been on every thread that describes how to flash/upgrade to this firmware. I have not yet successfully been able to upgrade my unit. I am S-Off, and SuperCid. I am currently on a telus model phone. All attempts to upgrade end up at a failed due to one reason or another. Are we all in the same general boat or am i missing something here?
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I have upgraded my firmware on the Rogers version using the directions in the firmware thread. You aren't trying to flash from recovery are you?
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
2mb?! I'm limited to 300k ... And nothing I do will raise this... ? I was able to get 1mb before I updated to ARHD10.1 but now sense 6 toolbox won't work to raise mms size... I can change the default.xml in /system/customize/MNS and the settings stick but no changes occur after reboot.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
How Did you get 2mb mine max at 1.2

Nvmd must have been for too the pic I was sending. Mine max at 2mb too even though max msg size is set to 5mb
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Who is your carrier?
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
Rogers
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Me too.. are you on a stock Rom? Before when I was and now with ARHD im limited to 1m..
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
Arhd 10.1

The following link shows you how to change mms limits. Don't forget to run the final command after editing file

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51991250&postcount=16
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
I just change it in the Rom zip before I flash it. Mike1986. Suggested that as editing the default.xml doesn't take effect as it only applies it on first boot. I'll try the adb method next time. Btw do you know the max mms sending /receiving size for Rogers? Thought I'd ask before calling them.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
That's what the command at the end is for. I changed the default.xml then ran the command and it refreshed the changes I made. I'm not sure. If you call them please let us know here what the mms max is
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Well Rogers said that their network will allow up to 1M. They said the m8 can send 2M but the network will only allow 1M ... ?
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
They be lying. I just sent a 1.8mb mms to my woman
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
So maybe it really is 2M? Idk. You have max setting at 5M, have you been able to send 5M?
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
In 1 pic or across multiple pics in the same mms?
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
I'd expect multiple pictures, unless you can record a 5M video?
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I've played around with a few settings. So far it seems like I can send 2mb 1 pic. More than that won't work but at least it doesn't compress it
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Awesome. I will raise my settings then to 2mb. Thank you for the testing.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
Ok so the limit for Rogers is definitely 2mb. If the pic is more than that, it won't send. I tried 1.95mb and it worked but 2.1mb won't.
[One (M8) General] Canadianreaper:
I didn't see info regarding the Bell radio/firmware in the thread so I'd thought I'd post here in case anyone searches.

I can confirm the Bell stock radio is indeed the SAME as the Rogers radio, 1.16.2133156.UA10G, after pulling the radio from my device after S-Off with Sunshine (firewater whelped).
[One (M8) General] b255128:
is there a Model number for the models? like the g3 thread does?

http://xdaforums.com/lg-g3/general/canada-lg-g3-canadian-users-t2810696

is a wind m8 the same as the big 3?
[One (M8) General] 09Ram:
All Canadian models are the same 0P6B160.
[One (M8) General] jets76:
It's a pain in the ass but I got it all nice. I'm on Mike1986's 10.1 rom with 2.22.1540.3 FW now. Telus unit as well.

Anything that can be done I have done on it. It's the sprint guys that got screwed with this phone.
[One (M8) General] :
Just saying hello folks! Just got the M8 today. Glad to join you guys. ?

Once I get the hang of things... I'll be around plenty. :)
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
And Verizon... So being on telus do you have to use the wwe firmware (2.22.1540.3) or can you use the gsm one (2.22.401.4)? I'm on Rogers so I'm not 100% sure about telus. Reason is I was thinking of switching to bell, but I want to continue flashing Roms and such.
[One (M8) General] jets76:
I'm pretty sure that they all work on Telus, Rogers or Bell no? I plan on flashing 2.22.401.4 when I update to AR 10.2 soon.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I'm running the modded 2.22.401.4 that was posted in the ARHD thread on my Rogers M8 with no problem. Mike suggested that the 1540 is a dev build so ppl are better off flashing the 401 build
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
I'm also using the modded 2.22.401.4 firmware with ARHD 10.2 JUST wondering how many telus or bell guys are using that firmware as well.
[One (M8) General] JohnM109R:
I'm deciding if I should update to this I'm on Bell Mobility

As I'm s-off rooted supercid but didn't change my mid yet or if I need too...

Just to scared..to do so...or what steps to take there is so many here I completely confused....ahhhhh...
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I wouldn't worry about the mid unless you're looking for particular ota updates. supercid will let you flash any firmware I think it skips the mid check, I saw in another thread that someone flashed m7 firmware on m8 and bricked it so just make sure you have the right fw. the easiest way is to follow http://xdaforums.com/htc-one-m8/development/firmware-flashing-panic-attacks-t2824048
[One (M8) General] flar2:
There are a few faces from the Nexus 5 forums around here.
[One (M8) General] :
I see that. Lol

Didn't even know most of them had M8's. Like this is a secret society. ?

Actually I use tapatalk most the time... So miss the fancy signatures that probably tip you off they are on M8. Lol

Awesome to see you here! When I decide my phone is fine and void my warranty.... elementalx again. . ?
[One (M8) General] sjeffrey:
I switched the MID just because I wanted to do the updates with OTA.

With super cid you can flash any firmware.zip you want. As others have said, just don't take the M7 one by mistake.

BTW, when I S-OFFed I SIM unlocked using the sd card file method and had no issues connecting to Telus after updating. In fact my CID and MID are still the Developer edition ones.
[One (M8) General] JohnM109R:
Thanks bud im at 2.22.401.4 firmware.... is there anything else i should do........ or should i change my cid and mid to developers to get the OTA...what would be the better BS0001 or BS0002.... i like being up todate..
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
The new firmwares always get posted so if you're sticking with custom roms why not save yourself from having to go to stock to take the ota and just flash the fw when it's needed
[One (M8) General] sjeffrey:
I went with BS0002
[One (M8) General] JohnM109R:
Thanks Guys much appreciated for the help....420SYN,,,,,,sjeffrey....:good:
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
What's the latest firmware version for the Telus variant?

Sent from my One M8
[One (M8) General] :
Mine is brand new... 4.4.2 and no update notice yet.

Good to see another familiar face . Ran your t989 Roms lots!!! I was kj2112 back then. ?

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forum Runner
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
What up! Lol I am not devving for this device but I am playing with a build a little...awesome phone eh?

Sent from my One M8
[One (M8) General] :
Very awesome! :)

Well, I'm waiting a couple weeks to be sure my phone is good... Lol.... Then I'll post a "how do I root" thread. ?de00

And if you get a Rom up.... I'll be flashing it. ;)

See ya around here. ?dc4d

Sent from my HTC One_M8 using Forum Runner
[One (M8) General] stonelessrock:
Cant S-Off

Trying to sim unlock the bell branded m8 for use in India.

Here's what it say when tried using firewater s-off

" The first bottle is open

chugging..........

******* whelp, this sucks, firewater can not work on your device *********"

here's the getvar all values

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 3.16.0.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 1.16.2133156.UA10G

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main:

(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON

(bootloader) serialno: SH445WM12679

(bootloader) imei:

(bootloader) imei2: Not Support

(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000

(bootloader) product: m8_ul

(bootloader) platform: hTCBmsm8974

(bootloader) modelid: 0P6B16000

(bootloader) cidnum: BM___001

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 0mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: on

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: ab0efa49

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

Any help wud really be appreciated
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Search is your friend, friend.

Try Sunshine - seems to work for most who get whelped by FW.

Sent from my One M8
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Anyone on Rogers get the 4.4.3 update yet? Any news on when it's rolling out?
[One (M8) General] Canadianreaper:
Not yet. If you are S-Off (like I did for GPE conversion) you can convert to the HTC unlocked or Developer version, which I am now on, to get OTA updates as soon as they are released by HTC. I got the 4.4.3 update right after the conversion. The radio is technically a different version than the international Rogers/Bell one, but it has been exactly the same bars wise and voice quality/data speed for me.
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
At the moment I'm using ARHD 10.2 with the 2.22 firmware. I was hoping to get on the official firmware as soon as I could tho. I can't help but thinking the radio will be optimized. What firmware version did you get with the update?

Edit: have you tried ARHD? I'm just curious to see what the battery/performance differences are.
[One (M8) General] Canadianreaper:
2.22.1540.3 as well. I have no idea how you'd objectively test radios between variants. I haven't noticed a difference and am happy with the developer version radio.

EDIT: I have not tried ARHD. Battery on Sense I've found to be slightly better than the GPE. Sorry I can't be of more help with that aspect. Sorry had to wait 5 mins to edit.
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
Sorry, I'm on the 2.22.401.4 firmware. I guess I'd have to backup both flash between them and do speed/reception tests..
[One (M8) General] WorldIRC:
My battery life is not the greatest with the latest FW 2.22.401.4; hoping it is just because it is not designed for the Canadian units. This holds true on two M8s (Silver and Grey), both brand new.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I'm having no problems. I'm getting almost 7 hrs of screen on time, which is about the same and I did on 8.1 if not a bit better.
[One (M8) General] jags_the1:
i am on the same combo but the boot time is incredibly long, even with quick boot option clicked. did you notice it too?

ive also started getting developer warning after flashing arhd 10.2. did it modify my hboot?
[One (M8) General] :
Well... Was gonna wait a month.... Instead I waited 4 days... Lol

Unlocked, S-off, rooted and Philz. ;)

Got my ads gone... And some favourite root apps back. This weekend I'm checking out Roms. :)
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I believe the red writing happens when you unlock your bootloader. You have to flash a custom hboot to get rid of it. If you searched the Arhd thread you would know that the long boot time is due too the need to update the firmware.
[One (M8) General] jags_the1:
I am on the latest firmware already
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
Well I dunno if you are on 2.22.xxx.x firmware you should have normal boot times
[One (M8) General] WorldIRC:
Did you flash the firmware twice per the instructions for flashing firmware? First flash is quick, second flash takes about 60 seconds.
[One (M8) General] 09Ram:
The Dev firmware .1540, and Rom are much better suited for Canadian models than the European 401.

I have tested many variants for M7 and M8, and Dev is definitely the next best thing to Rogers, Bell, etc.
[One (M8) General] WorldIRC:
2.22.1540 correct? So same firmware verison, localized to North America instead of WWE.
[One (M8) General] 09Ram:
Yes. Buildprop and acc xml files are a lot more compatible:good:
[One (M8) General] WorldIRC:
Well...I would still prefer to keep using ARHD (I've used it for years w/o issue) but maybe I would consider using that firmware instead of WWE.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
As far as I know if you are running a WWE rom it's best to use WWE firmware. For best compatibility you match fw with rom. The fact that our phone is canadian really doesn't make it different than the WWE except for the canadian radio and fw. I did a full format of my SD and everything before flashing arhd 10.1 rom I don't know if that could make a difference.
[One (M8) General] WorldIRC:
The second M8 I'm using seems OK now. The first M8 I didn't do an absolute fill wipe of the unit, the second M8 I did.
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
That makes sense full wipe is required when moving between bases or funky sh*t happens
[One (M8) General] WorldIRC:
I did a full wipe within Aroma, I know better. But then I did a complete full blast of the entire device... That's the difference.

Sent from my HTC One M8
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
Weird I never heard of that making a difference, I just do it to tidy up my virtual SD when a new base comes along. Hopefully doing that will fix ur other one too.
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
anyone got the update to 4.4.3 on Rogers (2.23.631.2) yet? This guy did..
[One (M8) General] 420SYN:
I was thinking of going back to stock but it's too much work lol hopefully someone posts it.
[One (M8) General] chronic1974:
I did from telus this morning.
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Sounds like its time to go back to stock for a day :)

EDIT: Once stock backup is restored all that should be needed is to ensure stock recovery is in place and an OTA is safe for an S-ON user, correct folks? I just went back to stock and see the option to take the OTA but believe I read it's not recommended with a stock recovery installed. Can anyone confirm?

Oh...and relock bootloader? I guess question is if I

1 - go stock unrooted (done)

2 - flash a stock recovery

3 - relock bootloader (fastboot oem lock, right?)

I can a) take the OTA safely and b) unlock again with htcdev method?
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
all i did was

return to stock (unrooted)

flash stock recovery

download update, profit

i stayed S-off and UB
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Thanks, but difference there is that I'm not S Off. Is that a factor here?

Edit: stock unrooted Sense, stock recovery and now stock Rogers kernel...but still unlocked BL. Am I safe to go?

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
I honestly dont know.. maybe someone else can chime in?
[One (M8) General] :
I think I'll wait for flashable files. ?

If it ain't broke....not fixing it. Lol
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Good policy but this OTA has stuff in it I want like the radio update. You can't just flash a radio on your m8 like you can on a Galaxy S_ because on HTC the radio partition is protected by S-On. You can't do that without S-Off.

I want to be sure I do this right if I'm staying S On because that is definitely my preference...

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] :
I'm S-off! I go big or go home. Lol

Thank you for the info tho.... Great to know this stuff. ?
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Did Firewater work for you?

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] :
Didn't even try it... Went the sunshine route so my warranty stays in tact . Assuming it functions enough for me to restore it to stock state. ?

Felt it was worth the $25. [MENTION=2376614]jcase[/MENTION] definitely earned it in my books. ?
[One (M8) General] k.s.deviate:
should be. you havet changed your CID seeing as your S-ON. I dont see there being a problem
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Cool. That's one, any seconds? Lol

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] sjeffrey:
You'll be fine even with BL unlocked. If you are nervous, worse case is the OTA will not let you apply the update in which case you can then lock your BL. But like I said, you won't need to lock the bootloader.
[One (M8) General] enrygie:
Just got the update for Rogers 4.4.3. Go check it out!
[One (M8) General] :
So... How long on the M8 sites it usually takes for files to be released for fastboot flashing?
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
You mean RUUs?

I believe HTCDev posts RUUs shortly after updates are released. If that's the case we should see one soon.

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] :
Still learning the M8 lingo. Lol ;)
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
You and me both good buddy. I'm such a noob again LOL

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] :
I enjoy the learning though. As I'm sure you're the same. Lots to read in the M8 section too. ;)

Haven't flashed a rom yet. This weekend when I have time.
[One (M8) General] GottaStayFly:
Can anyone with the telus m8 tell if the update has a new radio in it?

I'm currently s-off'd and used the firmware packages in the other section of the forum but not sure if the radio got updated in that or not
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
Yes it does include a radio update. Hence my rants about OTA with S On lol ^^^

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] WorldIRC:
Yes; it includes the same radio that's offered in the 2.22 firmware.
[One (M8) General] Canadianreaper:
I noticed several people above asking if their radio partition was changed with S-ON by flashing ROMs. The radio partition is protected by S-ON, hence ROM flashing will never be able to modify your radio partition. Only an RUU or manually flashing a radio in fastboot or TWRP (flashable zip) will change your radio, which you can only do if you are S-OFF.

Either way, I'm going to try the stock Bell ROM today and see if I get the OTA to upload/post for others. You can also extract the radio.img out of the OTA to have a backup of the radio, which you can do manually anyways if you are S-OFF using adb shell commands (search xda for this).
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
So I downloaded and tried to apply. Seemed fine at first but then halfway thru the progress bar disappeared and I got the red triangle of death. I was able to get into fastboot mode and just reboot and I'm fine but doesn't look like that'll work.

Relock bootloader and try again I guess is next...

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] sjeffrey:
That's strange. Were you running stock ROM with none of the default apps removed? And you had stock recovery?
[One (M8) General] djmatt604:
As far as I was aware. Although I may have unlocked and then manually readded the default apps (calc and flashlight right) before taking the backup. And yes stock recovery absolutely

Sent from my M8
[One (M8) General] Canadianreaper:
Maybe try a TWRP backup so you have a fresh system partition, then try taking the OTA update with stock recovery. I just did the same and it worked perfectly.

Also, here is the OTA for Bell users (contains stock radio and recovery!)

OTA_M8_UL_K44_SENSE60_MR_BM_2.23.666.2-1.55.666.4_release_387334.zip