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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mocsab:
I am sorry but I put 0 credibility behind the "SOURCE" for this statement that TMOBILE will have a locked bootloader - I have not even been able to confirm that the LG is locked - it may be that I am looking at the world thru rose colored glasses but I need to see something more than converstationwith an unknown person who may or may not know what they are talking about. The odds are that the S5 will be unlocked on TMOBILE - as an ATT customer using a TMOBILE NOTE 3 - I sure hope that is the case as I plan to buy the S5 when it comes out - if it is locked, I guess I will return it - but until I see more definitive proof - I don't believe it will be
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cloudraker:
So the actual tmobile response clearly stating the lg bootloader is locked isnt enough to convince you that the lg bootloader is locked?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mocsab:
If you are talking about the excerpt of the chat session the insurance guy posted online - then no, that is not enough to convince me. Do you have something more official from TMOBILE that says it is locked? I would love to see it if you do - I don't know who that person was at TOMOBILE - if it was a customer care person from the web site - I give them no credibility at all - you wouldn't believe the number of things they have said that have turned out to be totally untrue -

or are you talking about some sort of official notice that I have not seen?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] MattMJB0188:
Wasn't that T-Mobile's official twitter account? Anyway, I hope it is unlocked because everyone has the right to do what they want with their phone, as they own it. As an AT&T customer who used the T-Mobile Note 3, I can tell you that I will not be doing that again in the future. T-Mobile's Note 3 fully supported all of AT&T's bands, but I found LTE reception to be very bad. It was awful in places with low signal, and often would sit on HSPA+.

But my flashing days are over with. I pay for my devices at full price, and I won't risk bricking it with these very hard rooting/flashing procedures. Its just too risky nowadays. Maybe I got spoiled with the easy rooting/flashing methods we had before.

Back to the bootloader... I can see them locking it for the reason that many bought their device for use on AT&T. If the S5 bootloader is locked on T-Mobile then that's a shame. Looks like the "uncarrier" just made a selfish "carrier" move.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mocsab:
I honestly don't know if that was an Official Tmobile Tweet or not - I guess I do wear rose colored glasses - always half full and all of that. I purchased a preorder of the S 5 so I will find out soon enough - if it is locked I will probably return it.

One reason I can think of that t mobile has decided to lock bootloader (if they have) is to cut down on the amount of returns they get from people who brick their device and then return it for a new replacement, hiding the fact that they were rooted or whatever. We may have become o our own worst enemy. :) I don't knnow how many hundreds - maybe thouhsands of phones have been returned at one time or another from someone claiming the phone was broken when in reality it was bricked because they tried something they shoulnd't have - or flashed a bad file or whatever. If you consider their side of things - you can understand why they might want to plug that hole....

regardless - I am a flashaholic - it is a disease - I need help desperately - lol - but seriously - I do hope we find that these are just rumours and that Tmobile has taken the high road and kept our phones open and "flashable"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Walter.White:
It was official and VERIFIED TMobile's twitter account. Click on their twitter handle and you will see what I happen. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX:
Will they sell develper editions of the S5? Like the S4? I havent seen any for sale yet. I really dont want to shell out $600 for a phone just so i can customize it.. Might as well wait on the Nexus 6:crying: or maybe i will jump ship to the New one m8 google edition (even tho imo its ugly and still costs alot of $$)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] mircury:
The standard AT&T HTC m8 version has been confirmed to have an unlockable bootloader via the htc dev tool if you are concerned about having to buy off contract.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Neoistheone2000:
This is why I'm only buying Google edition phones now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jd1639:
Enough said

Sent from my Nexus 5
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] XxSHaDoWxSLaYeRxX:
Can't stop laughing at your sig
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Walter.White:
And that dude wasn't even drunk.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] slapdaddy:
And an S-OFF tool has been released...the phone can now be fully and completely unlocked.

Combine that with a microSD slot and I'm hitting AT&T tomorrow like a fat kid through a cookie store.

Get em while you can!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
What other choice do we have, other than to not buy the product...which it may come to after this fiasco.

Then again...Ive read about people not being so happy with M8 and other Galaxy competitors...the industry is being railroaded...

Ive also determined its less the S5 that Im not happy with, and more KitKat...several people I know have had S4's for a year or so, and many were auto "updated" recently to 4.4...now they have a lot of the same built-in features and apps I dont like about the S5 once their devices updated to the KitKat.

Anyone with a JTAG tried messing with S5 yet?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] vividblu2020:
i don't know. im really wanting the oneplusone. but the g3 is gonna be best!. but i am kinda falling in love with this phone. i just hate that the bootloader is always locked on samsung phones. is there cyangenmod on the gs4? how long did it take for that to happen if it did? i think cyangenmod would look amazing on this phone!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
I just want to be able to change my APPs and unbloat it...a diff bootloaded would be cool, but not the crux of the issue.

For example, Im stuck using the new MAPs app which is horrific for re-doing routes after the initial route is searched.

Anything that will allow me to unload built-in apps and load others would be fine by me...but as it stands that requires root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] hlb3:
I returned my S5 and AT&T sent a survey about it. I said anywhere I could on it that their BS policy of locking bootloaders is the reason the phone went back and I will not be purchasing another phone from AT&T until that policy is changed. I know it will make no difference, but hopefully more people that get the survey will answer the same.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ripper4209:
I only had Samsung phones on android until this round. When I read the bootloader would be locked I wasn't going to get it and hope for a Loki or safestrap method for flashing like the s4. If you don't care about flashing this phone could have the features you're looking for. But if not steer clear. If only Samsung would do what HTC does and allow you to unlock the bootloader on there website. (in exchange for warranty being void though.)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Kael ruch:
AT&T will 100% lock the bootloader on the S5.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] TOA Duck:
Indeed ole chap......Indeed.....[emoji53]
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] az-dave:
Is there any GPE edition which will support 4G LTE and rootable that will work with AT&T?

I have 2 S3's and 1 S5 I can sell to pay for one good device....?? (Im not offering to sell on this site, just saying I can sell all this crap to try and get something that works for what I want)

Anyone know?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sdlopez83:
Will?.....I mean...it Is locked. It's very locked. Phone has been out for a while.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
The GPE edition is rumored to be released soon. It briefly appeared on Google's site before it was pulled and no further mention was made. Was it a mistake, a tease, no one knows, but it is widely believed that it will return. The actual abilities and functions won't be known until it does.

Link:

http://gadgets.ndtv.com/mobiles/new...-play-edition-briefly-teased-by-google-516851
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Heartlessnobody:
Wow that number might just lead you to a ring around the Rosie. There should be a a way to say that we are OK if we void our warranty they would give it to us.

Let us know how that phone call goes
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] wizardslovak:
Can someone post encryption key from bootloader??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jstinger9489:
No go on the encryption key. I called and they basically told me that they would have a developer edition of the S5 releasing in a few months that I was more than welcome to shell out another $800 for. Im going to try to take the bootloader from my buddies T-Mo S5 and flash it to my AT&T S5 tonight via ADB. Wish me luck...

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] TOA Duck:
Good luck but I'm pretty sure someone already tried this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Walter.White:
Dont do it unless you want a hard brick. ATT Bl has different Hashes/ certificates. If it was this easy someone would've already cracked this thing :p
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jstinger9489:
... and I feel retarded. No go on the T-Mo BL. I now have another S5 because the first got stuck at the T-Mobile Splash screen. Luckily AT&T doesn't know their ass from a hole in the ground, and gave me a new S5 with no questions asked. They didn't even boot the original up, just boxed it up, put refurb on it and gave me a brand new one.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
You're making the same mistakes that have already been made by others several times. It's better to learn from their mistakes instead of repeating them.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jstinger9489:
I hadn't seen anyone try that particular method yet and I figured "What the hell, maybe it will work." I was wrong, but Id rather try and be wrong than sit on the sidelines being right, ya know? I just wish I knew more so I could do more.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cyberace1985:
i never understand why people do this your heckling low level tech support who have no control over this and have little to no affect on getting it changed.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jstinger9489:
I had to try, for the same reason when you're in high school and you ask the most beautiful girl out, knowing she already has a boyfriend. You get denied, but there is that small chance that you could get lucky. I had to take that chance.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] scott14719:
If you are serious about learning, all you need to do is search, read, and learn. It takes time...a lot of it, but if you want to do it right, that is the way. I see a lot of people that don't have the time, or don't want to make the time to do things correctly and somehow expect that they can do something that people that have been putting years into Android haven't been able to do. There are no shortcuts with this.

So, if you are serious, the best thing to do is start in the S3 forum and search for / read all the threads you can find concerning the bootloader. You will probably want to look in the Verizon S3 thread to start with because Verizon locked the bootloader on the S3. If you run into things you don't understand, read and learn about them before you proceed further. Follow any links that will provide more info. Asking questions in Q&A is not the way to learn things. The way to learn is by researching and reading the information that is already available about a given subject. Once you have read what you can in the S3 forum, move to the S4, Note 2, and Note 3 forums. The AT&T forums and the Verizon forums will be beneficial for information regarding these models. Once you complete all of that (if you take the time to do it the right way) you will have a firm grasp of what has been tried and what is needed to further the process.

Good luck.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jstinger9489:
Off to the S3 forum. Thank you for the advice, I have a whole lot of reading to do.

It'll probably be a good while before I can be any real help, as I have little enough time between my fiancée (She said YES!!!), and work (I build and maintain the telecommunications towers that these devices connect through), but I will give it my best shot and repkrt back if I happen to have a breakthrough.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cyberace1985:
the last root question thread was filled with these and it got shut down
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Christopher3712:
SM-G900T

After 6 weeks with the AT&T version, I finally got someone to bite on craigslist. I got him to make an even trade, I unlocked my phone, and am off to do whatever it is that I please to it. I hope you guys follow suit (I also had a trade listing on Swappa). Best of luck to you all and I sincerely hope your bootloader gets unlocked.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] djkinetic:
Hate to be the bearer of bad news but LG has a tendency to lock bootloaders on their own without carrier intervention... The g2 came locked but was loki exploited... The kitkat update patched that exploit.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jd1639:
How do you explain the LG nexus line then?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sireniankyle:
Designed by Google. There is a world of difference there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jd1639:
Carriers are the only ones who care if it's locked or not. Not the manufacturer
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sireniankyle:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1835415

A mere 5 seconds of research proved you wrong. And the Nexus 5 does have a locked bootloader. Here is a thread describing how to unlock it:

http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/general/guide-nexus-5-how-to-unlock-bootloader-t2507905
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Driggity420:
Technically the Nexus bootloader is "locked". It is just possible to unlock it. :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] djkinetic:
First the nexus line is a completely different story, its meant as an easy entry developer platform device....and as pointed out technically it does ship locked...however the google bootloader allows you to issue fastboot oem unlock....the normal LG aboot does not allow this on any of their own flagships or devices...in fact you can't get to fastboot on a normal LG bootloader without wiping some other partition on the phone....Yes carriers do usually mandate bootloaders to be locked however...LG has a practice in the past of locking all their phones bootloaders down without the carrier needing to request it...Case in point the T-mobile G2 shipped from LG with a locked BL...did T-mobile request it, highly unlikely, think about this the S5 on ATT and VZW shipped locked two carriers that always request manufactures to lock their BL...when it came to T-mobile, Samsung shipped it unlocked...If T-mo didnt request the S5 locked why would they have requested the G2 to ship lock...Also the Sprint G2 shipped again from LG locked, not at carrier request, how can I be sure, because again Samsung shipped the S5 to Sprint unlocked...Need more proof LG locks their BLs, the international G2 (D801) no bootloader unlock, it uses the same loki bypass, which was patched in the official 4.4.2 update from LG....workaround involves a mix of 4.2.2. and 4.4.2 partitions to keep loki. Do any international carriers specifically request locked BLs from manufacturers...usually not in my experience (I could be wrong) but generally international models are free of locked BL nonsense, unless the manufacturer explicitly locks it on their own...

Samsung international models generally ship unlocked, HTC ships locked but can be unlocked via HTC Dev, Moto locked unlockable via Moto Dev (Moto X case in point) , LG however I've never heard of them shipping a n unlocked device nor have I ever seen them willingly provide a way to unlock the device (Nexus branded LG's are the exception due to Google)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] baldwyn:
No offense guys, but trying these workarounds that have a very slim chance of working and then bricking your phone is one of the main reasons why AT&T chose to lock the bootloader in the first place. I understand the curiosity and development aspect of it, but be careful. If we brick our phone by trying something like this, AT&T are not liable for damages and don't have to replace the unit.

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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sentinel79:
I was about to do a swappa but even if the IMIE is clean now, from what I read it could easily go bad anytime during the contract time ... like if I sold my S5 it would be a contract phone and if I jump ship to T-Mobile what's stopping AT&T from blacklisting my IMIE?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] xodokyz:
I need transler g900a.. FPR pt-br Brasil have solution??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Wickidmasshole:
In order to sell your financed phone and have it not get black listed you need to specify in your sale that it can be activated on AT&T ONLY, just to cover your a s s if someone buys it and has issues trying to unlock due to the previous balance, and you must continue to pay your bill on time. What i did was sell my ATT S5 ($520) Bought a T-Mo one off swappa ($540) and an unlock code ($25) and i am happily up and running rooted and flashed, with LTE everywhere i go. Now if you are talking about selling your ATT phone and abandoning ATT all together with a balance on the phone, it will most certainly get black listed and you will have a really pissed off buyer on your hands.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] sentinel79:
So what about the phones on swappa. They all say clean but aren't those contract phones too?

Now, what if I use the money to help pay for my early ETF ... I just signed the stupid contract.

Also will a T-Mobile variant get blacklisted if I activate on my ATT account if I decide to stay?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rbedell:
Do not double post. You already created a thread. Bootloader is locked, no way to root or flash custom recoveries.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Sheon849:
One of the benefits of the locked bootloader is no one will be able to reflash a rom and bypass Reactivation lock.

I like this so I know if someone steals my phone its useless to them
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
I can bypass your Reactivation Lock. Don't believe that one.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Sheon849:
I would love to see a video or proof of this cause I know once it's on you can't even flash with Odin.

Also the s voice exploit was patched.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
Yeah, I knew you'd say that.

Ok. You're right for now. Whatever, until it's proven. If I did know how, I'm not going to post, make a video, or prove how it's done on a public forum, so anybody including a thief can do it. Ok then, I'm lying if I say I've done it multiple times, and we'll leave it at that.

But on the other hand, I will agree from a security standpoint that you are safer with a locked bootloader than without, because anyone can hack your phone easily with the bootloader unlocked. I'm pretty sure there are a lot of people who know how to do that without me saying specifically how on a public forum.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Sheon849:
Lol I'm not out here to call you a liar if you know a way post it.

I just want to make sure my phone is safe from losers if there is a exploit I want to have it fixed
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] shortydoggg:
Well, you're safer with the Reactivation Lock than without it. I didn't say don't use it. I just said don't believe that it can't be bypassed. The best way to protect your phone, is not to lose it at all. The ones who believe that they are safe if their phones are lost, are the ones who not safe, especially with rooted phones.

Also, if they fixed all the exploits, then we would not be rooting our phones anymore. Exploits and vulnerabilities are how we gain root access to our phones.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zomgitsanoob:
Only read the first page...

I have the ATT S5 and now that it's rooted I want to get CWM or TWRP on it. My experience with HTC tells me that I need to unlock my bootloader to do this, yes? So... I haven't seen any directions on how to accomplish that on this device. ANny help?

I think I'm starting to wish I'd gotten the M8
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] zeusakatkm:
You can run the Safestrap recovery, which is TWRP, but ROMS have to be TouchWiz based.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jae2014:
what do you mean that they have to be touchwiz based?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
question

Do you guys think someone will eventually crack the bootloader? ?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cstayton:
No aosp cm aokp roms only TouchWiz roms based on stock firmware
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cstayton:
Doubtful at this point
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
But we still have roms for att s5
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cstayton:
yea and several of them to choose from, the only real thing unlocked BL would give us now is the ability to have CM/AOSP/AOKP based roms and custom kernels.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Joehen873:
If tmobile is unlocked isn't it the same thing. But i think tmobile is locked??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] cstayton:
TMO has unlocked bootloader, and to answer your next question NO we cant install their bootloader on our device.

yes you can install any custom rom built for AT$T on the TMO device
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] goob1284:
Has anyone checked this out at all?

http://blog.azimuthsecurity.com/2013/05/exploiting-samsung-galaxy-s4-secure-boot.html?m=1

And can it be used for the gs5?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] dposea123:
It was patched for the S4, so you can bet the S5 is too. I'm starting to looking into unlocking my AT&T S5, but info is very scattered. I think I can crack the boot loader issuses but I've also read the is a a TrusrtSource secondary kernel monitoring things, so even with patched bootloaders its still a problem. I think this is also why we cant flash AOSP roms, which is what I want to do. I have lived with IDA for years so 'm confident of reversing the various parts, but there are so many of them and my problem is only about a $750 one, get a T-Mobile and unlock codes to use the AT&T network.

What about patching the T-Mobile kernel to work wth the AT&T modem, if I understand how that works. is the AT&T hardware that different? . Whay can we not run the T-Mobile ROM on an AT&T board? Are QFuses resettable?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] patrona_pln:
Can I install stock rom for samsung s5 G900F on my samsung s5 G900A??
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] ray mealer:
I think I may have unlocked my bootloader is there a way to test for sure and see without trying to install anything
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] jpcdeux:
Hahahaha, you'd know if you did
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] prakashkashyap:
How did you unlock your bootloader. ...I'm using Samsung s5 active g870a. ....I want to flash G870F Stock ROM.....thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] s8freak:
I doubt seriously if it was the news would be all over XDA and he'd be 30 or 40 grand richer from the bounty
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] prakashkashyap:
Could you tell me from where I can download 4.4.4 update for samsung galaxy s5 active g870a at&t. .....because it's not available on sam mobile and I live in india where no at&t support.......thanks in advance
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] vonhinkle:
If I have an unlocked lock when I boot my phone, does that indicate that the bootloader is unlocked?

I just bought this at&t s5 off off craigslist, I used towelroot to get root, after that I have an unlocked lock when booting. I'm tempted to try and flash a custom recovery but don't want to deal with re flashing 4.2...

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] Waiting4MyAndroid:
No. Your bootloader in not unlocked, and don't try to flash any custom recovery. Only safestrap and only on KitKat. The unlocked padlock on bootup means your system was tampered with due to root.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 5] rjayflo:
Has anyone tried flashing Cricket firmware through Odin since it's a subsidiary of Att?