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[One (M8) General] efrommel:
Can I add the HTC effect on pictures take. With manual mode?
[One (M8) General] xsardax:
No, only in auto mode.
[One (M8) General] sbiricuda:
Pardon, i can't find the Jishnu app either in this thread nor with google. I was able to find some ports for other devices, where can i give it a try?

Taken in Stockholm, Sweden.

I'm really struggling to make good pictures. I don't know why pics in this thread look great, while just a few of mine look as good as yours in terms of colors and clearness.

:confused:

Edit: well, besides the fact that I suck as a photographer, of course :P
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
you said it: the problem is behind the camera ;)
[One (M8) General] sbiricuda:
I agree.

But let's say that: if a passionate average user trying to take good pics and reading tips and making efforts and focusing on result and so on can't have the expected results, that means that this camera is not as handy as it should be.

I say that not because I'm a samsung fanboy, but.. holy ****, this can't be that difficult to take a good shot, compared to other phones. Not even trying to apply tips and balancing the settings is enough? I knew HTC was targeting elite customers, but i didn't know I had to be a professional photographer :p

That doesn't change that many pics here are great.

ps. does somebody know where i can find the Jishnu's beta camera? I only find ports for other devices.
[One (M8) General] rockyseenu:
Here is the MOD.

But beware there are reports that it breaks Zoe and Video. I would actually wait for the next version.
[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
It's not difficult. As with any camera, you have to get the result you wish. Even with a high end DSLR, it's going to be a "good" photo when you achieve what you desired to portray and an ordinary/bad photo if you fail to do that.

Sent from my Pocket Computer.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Also not true, my first tip is to rely on auto focus auto mode, which as handy as it gets, if users like to manually pick their target although they see it over expose in the view finder you can't blame the camera, I never had such a good point and shoot phone camera
[One (M8) General] G-Bus:
Zoe and Video have been fixed.
[One (M8) General] AlbertoSONIC:
My dog....

Inviato dal mio HTC One_M8 utilizzando Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] vegetaleb:
Took a photo of the sports club cat tonight ,so nearly low light close up full Auto

This is a crop but look how detailed and crisp is the cat's hair :laugh:
[One (M8) General] perryh1:
Auto mode. Was walking around in Cuba DSLR died figured I'd try the m8. Pretty happy
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
It's 1am and completely dark, I'm not kidding it's 100% dark and no light really.

Amazing.

The daylight one is in hdr.

If you know how to take photos, the manual mode and camera hardware Is really best I've used so far.

The dynamic range sucks yeah, but I still like it more than my s4 (i also preferred lumia 800 over s4)
[One (M8) General] crazyjimbo:
A quick snap of a stranger's bike. I like how well this camera captured the lights. With and without Ufocus
[One (M8) General] fps_pete:
HTC Dot View "Art" lol
[One (M8) General] sbiricuda:
Sadly my pics speak by themselves.

They are not terribly awful, but not amazing either.

Besides the fact that I'm not a very good photographer, I can easily compare the "point and shoot" results of my former phone (that was a medium range phone) and of M8. Love the phone, nice camera, but point and shoot pics were simply easier.

That said, I totally don't deny that this camera, in good hands, can turn into an amazing tool. But it is not my case: I'm an average user, not a pro.
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
First two pictures are in landscape mode, last one is auto.

I'll maybe try tomorrow morning to see if I can work something out that can take everything nicely into focus. all of the shots there are focused more on the sky because the moment I focus slightly away from the sky area the sky actually gets over exposed a bit, so focusing on the sky makes the buildings a bit darker than it actually was at the time when I took the shots. Seems like some fine tuning is necessary :eek:

I can do that tomorrow maybe as it'll be much quieter at work then :cool:
[One (M8) General] tominozh:
The camera is amazing. Auto mode + ufocus.

Sent from my m8
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Nice pic, but I see the ufocus messed up with the girls sweater top. Some blurred out, some not, same at the little ones foot.

I haven't used ufocus though...hoping that they might improve it a bit more as it's not really perfect, or at least, not near perfect as of now.

But still...nice pic :good:
[One (M8) General] tominozh:
Yes, I agree to that. Ufocus can be a bit "inaccurate" but hey, it's still only a phone. I'm sure hTC will improve that.

Sent from my m8
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
This photo is pretty peculiar

I took quickly while stopped at the traffic light, it was after sunset and i took it with auto mode

yet auto mode surprises me here, the phone took this shot with ISO 200 and 1/25 exposure time, I cropped it later on

this is a great ISO for auto low light, it even captured a depth path

i don't get why in other scenarios the phone's auto in low light insists to go all the way up to ISO 1000 / 2600 / 3200, it's completely needless on an ultrapixel sensor...

full size and the rest of my photo in my usual Flickr album
[One (M8) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I'm always taking photos with my M7, my GOD I can't wait to get my hands on the M8.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
sometimes just Levels > Auto from a quick visit to Photoshop can yield great results

This photo was dark, now beautifully leveled

The opposite for this one, contrast was improved
[One (M8) General] -juanito-:
i just comapred it with iPhone 5s, i was thinking one m8 take better low light photos than 5s but i was wrong. also one m8 camera is very slow in low light compared with other flagships
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Lol it's all in your control just play with iso or ev in low light to speed or slow down the shutter depending on the quality you want

Unlike the stupid iPhone you have total photographic control, its an insult to even compare them
[One (M8) General] -juanito-:
if i speed it up the picture will be dark unlike the iPhone.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Nevermind the viewfinder, you can later brighten any image in the gallery, it seems HTC is just being extra cautious about over exposure
[One (M8) General] waz675:
Couple photos I took to focus away from the kids not taking to waking up early to help me say happy mother's day this morning lol.

Saw the sunrise and took pics quickly without any manual changes this morning, reason below heh

Apologies if they don't work or look ok, 3 hours sleep and breaking of my mind this morning by the kids not liking this morning has made my brain more mush than usual.
[One (M8) General] shem2409:
Camera comparison between Sony Xperia Z2, HTC One M8 and Samsung Galaxy S5 with detailed analysis of a selection of shots taken with each one, sample videos and a short tour of the camera interface of each device.

[YOUTUBE]xBT5hFVT4xM[/YOUTUBE]

Link to pictures in original sizes:

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwNTKFeHypSqaXliOXhKUWJab3M&usp=sharing
[One (M8) General] Aldiggi:
Ufocus works really well with the right shot.
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
Yeah man you are just trolling at this point. Move on.
[One (M8) General] rickwalsh151:
I agree... me personally feel that the camera is not supposed to be the big selling point to the phone... it's supposed to be a high end device and I believe the build and feel of the ui just screams high end... I have a note 3 and I love it but hands down nothing is built like the htc one or the all new one... which is the main selling point to the phones

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Hand someone any Samsung phone and one of the htc ones and anyone who has an iq higher than a third grader will tell u which one is more high end.. regardless of cameras... These devices are built for convince and useability and in the case of the ones built for the wow factor. They all take pictures... If u wanna take awesome pictures than buy a dam camera
[One (M8) General] JoshuaFCB:
seems fine to me.
[One (M8) General] Frankie1588:
That looks delicious :D
[One (M8) General] Basil3:
Any chance the OP could change the title of this thread, or a mod could delete 90% of the posts? Kinda misleading (I know it's not the OP's fault, btw).

Sent from whatever I'm using
[One (M8) General] c5satellite2:
PAID OFF SAMSUNG TROLLS
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
No I agree but they can't call the only phone camera which can save or even stun you in low light "crap" low light and indoor is 50% my life, moving targets is another 20% of my photo needs this leaves 30% for outdoor scenic shots and it's not like the camera is totally useless in daylight, our examples are coming from the M7 and M4 which are still worse than the M8 camera when it comes to color

The verge reviewer reflects the moanners in here, he just want to take a shot blindly, hell he doesn't even try to steady his hand, just check his shots bad focus targetting and in many he moved the moment the shutter was pressed, I call it lazy/clueless shooter and for those my advice is clear: stay away from UP cameras (if phone cam is most important for you)

download the engadget full size photos on your screen and you will see how amazing they are, it just needs a slight reduction to sharpness, but you can clearly see how it "pops" due to detail in dark areas of the image

As for the One X: true and false, the One X was able to beautify a photo digitally, had the best daylight HDR, better dynamic and color range (which was greatly improved on M8) and of course the pixels amount, but it was really half usable, anything resembling low light produced a heavy amount of pixel bleed hidden by absurd amount of smudging, this is why most of its photos had a "digital" feeling and lacked depth due to the lack of detail in dark areas, but of course it wins in scenic photos

No one is denying the lack of crop or zoom but you can't call the UP camera crap until this level of low light power, pixel quality and speed is standard in smartphones and no longer a UP advantage
[One (M8) General] globalgpj:
Here's an interesting review of some of M8's camera shots vs what they call a proper camera.

http://www.trustedreviews.com/opinions/htc-one-m8-camera-vs-a-proper-camera
[One (M8) General] fuinhu:
I didnt call the UP camera a crap ;)

I've been using htc phones as my daily drivers since the P3300 and for the first time when i've upgraded from the OneX to the M7 i've noticed that in most scenarios the Ox cam was better.

I've saw the engadget pics on flickr, they're great, there's a real improvement in the m8.

Anyway, i still consider that there's no need to have such fuzz about camera phones, one may be better than another but all things considered they're all really bad :p

here's an example what you can do with +-150$ :angel:
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
"Crap" wasn't coming from you, I meant others and this must mean your scenarios have more light in them ;)

Anyway this debate is futile, I think the batman ad says is a good conclusion :laugh:
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Geek.com "Gets" this camera:

http://www.geek.com/apple/camera-shootout-htc-one-m8-vs-iphone-5s-vs-moto-x-1589179/

The duo files are really almost double in file size:

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M8 vs M7, you can see a much improved color balance in the monsters.inc photo, M7 results used to look uglier due to yellow/green bias

and the Engadget flikr samples prove it, color balance is vastly improved

any M7 user can see that, color definition is a massive improvement

I seriously hope they don't do two sensors like promised, somehow im skeptic (judging by some reviews)

HTC has a bad habit of passing inferior parts when they run out of stock, so im really hoping different color results between reviewers is due to software variation

for me the biggest disappointment is actually the UFocus precision, its unacceptable
[One (M8) General] bebelro:
As i saw from [MENTION=5210405]SuperMarioGalaxy[/MENTION] posts, he already decided to Z2...maybe that's what HTC wanted to say with "buyer remorse" :)
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
Another one of my guys.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
some camera quotes from Anandtech review

only one source for the UP sensor so no quality issues this time (if they keep their word)

OIS will be missed in video capture:

[YOUTUBE]lIdiX8kUuFw[/YOUTUBE]

HTC should bring back the One X HDR...

rear versus front

but but 5MP should do better ;)
[One (M8) General] mwatson:
The rear camera even changes the colour of your shirt! they never mentioned that in the keynote!
[One (M8) General] ste1164:
Shen mentioned on twitter that the ufocus precision is being improved!
[One (M8) General] th3b3:
All of my displays are color calibrated using a spyder 4 colorimeter. I'm sure hamdir is the only one besides me using a calibrated display. I always get a kick out of people complaining about photos and cameras but dont have a calibrated display to view them on. The only way you can judge photos is if they are being viewed on a color calibrated display[URL="https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=lIdiX8kUuFw"[/URL]

Who walks around with the camera on to record video anyway? Judging by the color variance Ill take the M8 as it looks more natural. Has anyone seen how film makers make pro movies? Nope, no OIS there. Why would you be moving around like that recording video? It really comes down to basics of photography. This is a laugh riot. When you upload to youtube you can have youtube stabilize the shaky video it works really well.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
yea i saw it, in my opinion the M8 camera team shouldn't sleep until this is improved

i am exaggerating but being the prime function of the secondary camera those lack of precision is inexcusable
[One (M8) General] ste1164:
I agree completely from what I have seen it seems extremely shoddy. It also seems too distinct? There seems to be clear then just blurry with no gradual increase of blurriness the further away you go? (not sure if that makes sense or that the cameras could even do that).
[One (M8) General] Maximus78:
My Beloved
[One (M8) General] hudsoncouto:
I hate to say, I kinda agree with this guy... Makes me feel sorry for all the poor chumps who are getting the M8 and only shooting in auto mode. In fact I'll just go right out and say it: the manual mode is the only thing that saves this camera IMO. I just can't get past the poor dynamic range. Z2 was the most balanced result in this comparison, even though the guy gave the crown to the S5
[One (M8) General] Aldiggi:
Camera is very doable for what it is. It has its pluses and minuses just like the rest. I have the 5s as well and the M8 fairs very well against it.
[One (M8) General] rbrandser:
That was a very interesting review. The exposure problem is obvious on the m8, I have to compensate for it on the m7 also. I've set EV to -1 or -0.5, also I manually set focus point on most shots. For low light photos I adjust iso manually too, much lower iso than auto. In good light conditions the UltraPixel camera is really fast, but then again in low light it can be really slow.

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I take photos because it's fun, and it's creating memories. The zoe highlights is brilliant, I've saved a lot of them. I

Just today, me and my daughter watched through 30 videos from last year, we had a good time. That's the best part of the HTC ones camera/gallery. In just a few seconds you can create a nice highlight.
[One (M8) General] ngo2dd:
I really hate how people do reviews of camera on a phone. Everyone does still life or using tripod. That is not a real world usage of a camera phone. Many of us use it for our kids or at event. What good is high resolution if you miss the shot you want. That is why I enjoy using the M7 so much and my GF have the M8. The camera is so fast in auto that she can get picture of moving object and not have it blurry.

Who have a tripod with them when they are out on the night. I want to see a review of have a camera phone would be used in real life, how many shot are useful compare to the amount taken.
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
This...

If you know what you're doing this camera is unbeatable in most situations, especially low light.

The dynamic range sucks yeah, and the resolution isn't great plus the auto mode takes horrible pics, but the manual mode kills it, the "better" sensor is also really nice, it somehow feels more like a dlsr if you can even compare them lol. A dirty lens seems to affect the picture quality a lot due to this.

Even in this dark club I was able to snap a really nice shot.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Auto mode is terrible in the night, but in daylight and indoor it's unbeatable, like I said the main rule for auto is relying on auto focus

I really don't get why you people say it's bad or have exposure issues when I have already proven how great it works on default, in daylight and good indoor light it wipes the floor with the M7

RELY ON AUTO FOCUS this way auto will calculate the best possible exposure, if you pick focus for your target you will most likely over expose it

For the night I have a custom manual settings saved as a new camera for quick use when needed
[One (M8) General] meleelord:
Would it be OK to ask you to share the manual settings for night? :) I trust your opinion on this sort of stuff with the camera.
[One (M8) General] mushages:
X2
[One (M8) General] waz675:
X3 haha
[One (M8) General] ngo2dd:
Here are some pictures I took with the M8. I love how good the manual is on the first one.
[One (M8) General] ngo2dd:
Using The app had to update will not let me connect to the server so here are the picture.
[One (M8) General] ngo2dd:
The last one is manual.
[One (M8) General] dressanderc:
I was able to snap this picture at my Aunt's over the weekend. Nice thing is that it is about 70% crop, and it still retains it's clarity without a loss in detail. This was manual focus, no Ufocus.
[One (M8) General] bpdev:
Here's some of mine:
[One (M8) General] soulreaver99:
HTC One M8 Sketch Effect
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
I think the images generally lack sharpness in my opinion.
[One (M8) General] Leondreux:
My camera seems to be quite sporadic. Sometimes it will take really nice pictures, but other times there's a total loss of clarity altogether. Generally speaking, the "selfie" option on the camera app is terrible. I normally have to use another app that can apply filters directly to offset the quality.
[One (M8) General] Luismauriz:
Enviado de meu HTC One_M8 usando Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] crazyjimbo:
Stock camera, HDR on, no editing...
[One (M8) General] predator21:
My daughter ..and a random shot both with ufocus​
[One (M8) General] arses:
Ufocus must be fixed.

Yesterday I was working with a Evo 3d and I focused on 3D images and the depth of each subject on photos.

I even didnt see 1 point out of its depth level so I can conclude that its just about software accuracy and can be fixed as evo 3d does.

★☆■HTC ULTIM8■☆★
[One (M8) General] xsidex:
What do you guys think?

BTW picture taken in the most beautiful place on earth :laugh:

Click to See in full screen glory :D
[One (M8) General] sbiricuda:
Nice pic!

What settings did you use?
[One (M8) General] eikast:
Cal Poly Pomona?
[One (M8) General] xsidex:
I think I used The panorama mode with EV -1 everything else stock ;)
[One (M8) General] sbiricuda:
Nice thank you

___

Is there a way to reduce the pic size without post-editing? I mean, directly in camera app.

I can find the option to change the ratio (16:9, 4:3, 1:1) but not really the size.
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
Who said the camera was bad?
[One (M8) General] vegetaleb:
Beirut water front, a good day of May.

I wonder if HDR is better:
[One (M8) General] nikolasokol:
If you want better HDR photos, i have one trick on M7:

1. Select auto mode in Camera.

2. Hold your finger on screen to lock Focus

3. Then with locked image select HDR and shoot.
[One (M8) General] vegetaleb:
Thanks I will try that!

Btw for HDR is it better to focus on the most lighted part or shadowed to avoid too much light?
[One (M8) General] nikolasokol:
Depends , try to find some balance.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=3699196]nikolasokol[/MENTION]

no the M7 trick doesn't work, if you want to use it, you need to lock on the bright target switch to HDR and immediately press shutter before it relocks

there is a much better way for M8 though

simply in HDR mode lock to the brightest point you can find, even if outside the frame, lock then re-frame and shoot, here my results using this trick, you can see how good it gets once you get the hang of it (in the first three photos you can't even tell that it's HDR or originally backlit)

anyway few more photos from Rick Takagi
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
guys don't forget the photo tips from HTC

Photo Tips for Exposure

so without going into manual mode, normal auto mode we can raise exposure and reduce ISO in low light to improve quality at the cost of the shutter speed, then we can save it as a custom low light camera

and some info from HTC Suppoer

Portrait mode

TIPS FOR CAPTURING BETTER PHOTOS (M8)

SAVING YOUR SETTINGS AS A CAMERA MODE
[One (M8) General] waz675:
Thanks for the tips. I never ever got into "photos" for like the first 35+ years of my life. Simply too busy with other stuff to fit in time to take photos until we started a family.

Great help, especially that my brain is a sieve nowadays with the pain stuff.
[One (M8) General] GermanGuy:
Do you mean, in the viewfinder, I tap on the brightest point first and then I tap on what I want to focus on?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Nope just lock focus/target, keep holding to lock, you can't decouple exposure from focus in HDR
[One (M8) General] iggdawg:
Another random camera tip: If the camera launch gesture, pick up device in landscape and hit volume button, isn't working, you might just be blocking the proximity sensor with your left hand. I've been consciously avoiding blocking the proximity sensor when picking the device up, and the launch gesture does still not work 100% of the time... but it's a lot better than when I used to try without noticing the prox sensor at all.
[One (M8) General] crazyjimbo:
Stock camera, Auto-awesomed by Google Plus
[One (M8) General] mwatson:
Moonshine! Hdr
[One (M8) General] predator21:
Few more yesterday
[One (M8) General] Kraenesk:
Stock camera stock settings auto everything.
[One (M8) General] The-Last-Hylian:
I took a few pics of the moon lastnight, I' not that far away from you near Portsmouth.

Will upload when I can.
[One (M8) General] vegetaleb:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

Tried your HDR trick (lock on brightest area) yesterday at 7pm when the sun was going down but even locking the focus on the sun the photo is too bright and half the sky is ''burned''
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
this is not what i call burned there seems to be detail in the bright area, its a good result
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
Just barely, don't have ps/lr to actually confirm but I think that white are would still be recoverable.
[One (M8) General] vegetaleb:
Perhaps with LightroomI it can do some magic , if it was in Nef raw format (Nikon) I can adjust Exposure using CaptureNX but not with Jpeg.

Using HDR while in

preview

and facing the sun the pic goes very bright,perhaps if an expert dev like lyapota can edit the camera libraries,we should decrease the EV by 1 in HDR mode,it's way too bright.

Btw HTC should have given us the option to change EV even in HDR to get the perfect balance
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
If anything we should increase the EV in hdr by 1, that way we have more dynamic range.