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[One (M8) General] thelittleidiot:
(Sorry for my english, but I'm french)

Personnally I don't recommanded the Z2. The problem with Sony's Camera is the compression of the photos. It means that when you zoom in, you lost so details. If you compare to a S4 or S5 there will be much more details. I have the Z1 (had the Z too) and I'm waiting for my One M8. What I could say about the pictures, is that they are good, but no one are excellent. When I see some photos in the topics, I see that no one of the smartphone I use for this year could make such great photos (I had the Z, the S4, the Z1, the G2 and the Note 3).

But the worst point of the Z2 it's Sony. They want to have a flagship every 6 months. It means, few upgrade and much more money lose. When you will sell your Z2 next, the price will be 100€ minimum less than the One M8 or the S5, if it's not more. For example, you could buy an second hand Z1 for about the same price of an second hand S4.

Sure the Z2 seems to be a good smartphone. But an S5 or an One will be a best choice. You could choose a Z1 which is less expensive. The only differences btw the 2 smartphones are the 4K and the slow motion (and maybe developer will add it)
[One (M8) General] riro1612:
It's really easy though. The "4" you mentioned before is the spead of the shutter. It takes 4 seconds to capture the photo. The longer the photo takes to be shot, the more light is taken by the shutter, thus explaining the white image. Try this particular settings at night with lower light and see what this phone is capable of. Hope I helped.
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Our kitten Peanut!
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
Might wanna read this.. Z2 is overheating with more than a few minutes of 4k video recording. Not everyone will use this video mode I guess but it's something to consider, along with reports of gaps hindering it's water proof claim.

http://m.androidcentral.com/gapping...ria-z2-owners?utm_source=ac&utm_medium=dlvrit
[One (M8) General] hello00:
which airport is this
[One (M8) General] Blazeitup123:
Here, have a beer.
[One (M8) General] Raggi01:
For me theres also various factors having me lean towards the Z2, the camera is a major factor though and i need to see stills to make the choice. Things such as the noise cancelling and waterproof capabilities of the Z2 make them more enticing for me. Build quality and overall looks is excellent on both the z2 and one m8 so no complaints there and both have great os's. The M8 has the duo camera which creates the bokeh effect which I love but the Z2 has a similar refocusing option, albeit not as good as the M8. Speaker quality is roughly the same with the m8 being slightly better. You can see why the camera is the tipping scale for me :D
[One (M8) General] FlowingAway:
I was going to post something about HDR pictures being blown out in the sun, but then I went and took this picture today, I stand corrected lol.
[One (M8) General] arses:
You'r right:

Its obvious that 4 second in many cameras is just for firework capture not for capturing of sun movement.

And even be careful do not damage the ccd if in sun light.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

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[One (M8) General] renehd2:
I hate all of this reviwers.. did you guys see how they try to make the bad things of the s5 not look as bad?? But of they are talking about the HTC One m8 they say this:

- the Camera Take good quality photos but its 4mp.

- it capturea fast moving objects very well but its 4mp.

-it is great ln low light conditions, but guess what?? Its 4mp.

- it has actually really usefull and great effects and settings (not like all other phones), but sadly its 4mp.

I dont know if cry or laugh at them...
[One (M8) General] BookOfRick:
It's 4 seconds to get the actual image adjusted into the viewfinder so that when you click the shutter button, it is instant.
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Is that attachable lens good? I'm going to buy the M8 and considering buying either the X10 or X100. What's the picture quality like with zooming, without zooming etc

Is the X100 worth the extra money, where I live I see they're selling the X100 for almost 3times as much as the X10. Do you have some/other samples taken with the X10 Lens attached to M8?
[One (M8) General] Drphiligood:
It is Taiwan Touyuan Airport
[One (M8) General] hello00:
I knew it was foreign..beautiful airport :good:
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Hi, I think it's worth it's money. It's optical zoom so you get great zoomed in pics, it's a little hard to keep it perfectly still with Max zoom, but it's alright.

I haven't considered the 100, I think it's to expensive, for those money you get a pretty good camera nowadays.

I'll say go for the qx10, it's not very fast (u got the m8 for thst) good pictures in a small packet.

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Mmmm. Good old Thai beers :)

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[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
Yeah I was thinking the same thing in regards to the X100... That's the price of a decent digital camera so... I'd probably go with the X10 then but I'll give a bit of time. I'll see what I can get out of the phone first before going with it then, just wanted to know if it's actually worth it or not :)

Thanks for the reply.
[One (M8) General] chobits:
Seriously ... that's Taiwan Airport now?

Man ... it becomes such a beauty

I remember I had this transit for 4hours from LA to Singapore ... It was plain old
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I hate the review as well clearly a cry baby and he would write different if it was an iPhone, I was just highlighting the slowness of other cameras

Thankfully websites like Anandtech finally care to test the camera speed, which is really half the story
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
Yeah dude, i really hate them and as a guy Few posts back said "they should test the Camera for real life usage"..

Id like to meet 15 people that actually zoom in their photos and than post it and say " Oh look how Sharp the photo is even when zoomed in"...

I guess people use that 1 every 100 photos, but they say "oh but this is 16-20-41 mepapixels"

By the time they take a good photo we have taken 10 ;)

And later make them look even better with all the cool tools HTC offers and even more with the zoes now sharable..

It will be magic on instagram and Facebook THE TWO THINGS PEOPLE WANT THEIR GOOD SMARTPHONES

CAMERAS FOR
[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
Nice one I took of my cat this morning anxiously waiting for his food. lol
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
some new photos from rick, the first photo i love the most it shows the per pixel detail in the distant trees (thanks to larger pixels) very impressive for a "lousy" 4MP camera

action shot

https://www.flickr.com/photos/rt425/sets/72157642908546733/
[One (M8) General] arses:
Trop jolie.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

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[One (M8) General] stuart0001:
Next time someone says the M8 camera is crap I'm quoting this post. :good:

Awesome pics.I can't wait to get mine up and running now.
[One (M8) General] inadequate:
So am I. These photos are awesome :good:
[One (M8) General] sachaka:
Some other M8 shots... https://www.flickr.com/photos/122877178@N03/sets/72157643746670004/
[One (M8) General] mushages:
what edit you did to those?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
it's by Rick not me check the flickr link he explains each shot, if edited or not but they are mostly from the phone itself or the gallery effects
[One (M8) General] mushages:
just discovered that we have a sequence feature in our camera :p:silly:
[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
Auto + ufocus and a filter. 30 seconds to do.
[One (M8) General] Drphiligood:
Wowing,they are amazing shots
[One (M8) General] boofhead:
some pics without any editing (no ufocus either)

took these today and they came out very good. i also havent used any editing or ufocus modes etc. this was on full auto. these have also been scaled down from 940kb and 2.26mb. not sure why one is significantly larger in file size than the other. either way very happy with the quality of the photo's this camera produces.
[One (M8) General] Grizzly420:
I was really worried about the camera due to reviews and not seeing the phone in person. I have zero concerns about this camera. Matter of fact the phone as a whole is FN Awesome!!!!

This was just a quick pic of our new truck. Not sure if xda compresses photos but the thing looks fabulous on my phone.
[One (M8) General] chivamex10:
Finally got a seeding device at work last night. I was uber impressed with the shutter speed. The 3D mode was hella trippy. The filters making editing a breeze.

I'm having 2nd thoughts on my preorder of the S5.. but then again our samsung rep came in yesterday and was showing us the focus mode which was also very impressive.

I had a M7 last year and I felt the camera was adequate. It did the job. I actually loved Zoe cos it would stitch all of my adventures into a mini movie.

Honestly I finally saved up and just got myself a real camera.. A phone can only capture so much. Unless you get a lumia 1020 or samsung zoom.
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
M8 vs. S5 non-biased camera review:

http://blogs.computerworld.com/smartphones/23772/galaxy-s5-vs-htc-one-m8-camera

P.S. Please note the purple-tint on the S5 low light shot .. but do you think people will smash it like they did with the M7? Probably not, of course the M7 was touted as a low light camera.

S5 top, M8 bottom
[One (M8) General] Braderzf50:
I might be blind:laugh:, but where is this feature? I can't find that anywhere in the camera app.
[One (M8) General] mushages:
Take a picture using zoe with a stable hand then edit it ( you will find it there amoung ufocus and 3D)
[One (M8) General] Braderzf50:
Ah! Thank you buddy!:good:
[One (M8) General] boofhead:
if by sequence you mean just holding down the camera button to take multiple shots then i know what you mean. otherwise i can not find any other options even after using the zoe thing that only seems just to also only take one photo. not sure what zoe is meant to do.
[One (M8) General] vinylee79:
Zoe records footage, and then enables you to choose specific frames from that footage. It also lets you create gifs, which is a nice touch. You need to hold the shutter down for however long you want to record for, and let go when you are done.
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Love this car! This was taken on the way home . .it had gone dark out and only light was coming off passing car as shown :)
[One (M8) General] vinylee79:
Excellent review. I will certainly be playing around with manual mode a bit more after seeing this. Thanks :)
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
Wow, all of these shots came from a PHONE?!

Can't wait to get mine tomorrow!
[One (M8) General] Shan89:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

Thx for the mini review mate ! Was waiting for this :D, wasn't aware that manual is this powerful , other devices have it tho but I never seen complete control like you demonstrated , ty !

Tho I'm still waiting for your final large ass review when you get the device.
[One (M8) General] zaydaboss:
I'm so torn between the z2, s5, and m8. I currently have the note and want a smaller phone. The photos look great. I think we will be fine if we shared camera settings to achieve the great photos above. Gonna try the m8 and s5 in the morning
[One (M8) General] puremind:
How do you find your display? Thanks for the tips on the camera. I always thought the sensor can do fine. The overexposure that we see in automatic mode is entirely gone in manual mode. I think it was a smart move to make the camara source available to third party developers because there is potential to improve the automatic modes!

The camera app really is out of this world.
[One (M8) General] BookOfRick:
Is manual mode 1600 iso supposed to have weird side coloration sometimes?

Not even low light.
[One (M8) General] BookOfRick:
It's definitely there:

Sorry for double post. Xda not letting me edit in pictures to previous.

Edit: okay automode sometimes had this a little. In those cases, viewfinder flashes green tinted edges with noise but picture results in only a little bit of green. Hardware problem/defect combatted by software?

Edit: oh okay. Sometimes the automode defaults at that though, haha.
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
ISO 1600 isn't really usable in most situations anyway, I don't even get why they included it on the M8. In actual cameras with decent sensors, ISO 1600 rarely produces a usable picture, it makes zero sense to use it in a camera phone.
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
this thread alone made me buy the M8!
[One (M8) General] Ravenmtx:
Thought I'd contribute to this thread by posting some shots I took when testing everything on the phone. All unedited.
[One (M8) General] references:
I'm amazed how well this camera handles moving objects even on indoors and moderate light.

This beautiful girl on the pictures is Bella, she loves to play fetch with her stick, but I never got good pics of her plays because she is so fast and I have to follow her and move the camera all the time to even get her on the camera. The pics with my pocket camera and previous phones only produced blurry images when everything was on the move, this is the first time i ever got her plays on a pic without the whole picture being blurry.

Here is a sample of her with and without ufocus, you see the ufocus blurs the stick but I think it's doing what it's supposed to do as the stick is blurry on the original picture too.

Original

Ufocus
[One (M8) General] chobits:
I own Lumia 1020, and I love it

Pictures quality is out of this world, but! auto focus is slow and dumb (at low light)

Shot to shot is 3seconds long

It makes me lose moments especially when it comes to moving object in low light condition (talking about my 1yr old baby), but whenever I go i don't have to bring my dSLR anymore (seriously, it can be that good)

So here I am, considering M8 with the uFocus as the primary intention (love the bokeh, too bad it's not perfect yet)

Image quality quite inconsistent as I browse 60 pages

Rick Takagi can produce such a BEAUTIFUL images out of M8, and some just plain bad with auto mode

M8 is speed and L1020 is quality, am I right?

Dunno ... still can't make my decision

Help me out, should I switch to M8?

Sometimes I feel that quality is not important as I miss that moment

And the other way around too

Gosh ... my head
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
speed: nothing in this world matches the M8 camera shutter and focus speed, not even the iPhone 5s, it's seriously mind blowing since you have this spend even in low light, also you can access the camera instantly by rotating to landscape and pressing up on the volume

now about bokeh be careful Ufocus is fake bokeh and still doesn't work really unless there is clear difference between your subject and the background ie: protrait shots

however! as you can see here it's the decoupled manual exposure and manual focus which is really the killer here, you can see the natural bokeh of the phone camera itself in my post

HTC is stupid they simply need to advertise it as the fastest camera in this world and professional manual controls > that would be make more sense to people than explaining the large pixel advantage
[One (M8) General] chobits:
True to that sentence

I've seen how fast the M8 can be, and it makes my L1020 .... like a broken camera when it comes to speed

Oh I love to shot lowlight more than outdoor
[One (M8) General] HRodMusic:
i have a m8 that loves blackburn, this is cool!
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
the display was the good onee, really bright and clearer than the M7, reminds me a lot of the One Max and G2 screens, they've reduced the layering or the glare for sure, it now feels on surface like the One X again, really worried i get the lesser screen when i find my grey :rolleyes:

check out my hands on

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51816943&postcount=9568
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
I like that my eyes dont hurt when i turn the brightness to max. Is there different type of displays btw?
[One (M8) General] jesr:
How many slots are there to save customized camera modes/settings?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
infinite
[One (M8) General] smudgelab:
Superb that you're all over this hamdir, I used your guides / information exhaustively with my M7.

Also, only taken me over a week to notice but Islandia is back! The world has tilted back to it's correct axis :highfive:

Any idea what the blank zoe app' is all about? ("Check for updates")
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
I noticed that the zoe app from app drawer is "dead" but it seems to say coming summer 2014 . . We already have zoe built into the gallery by the looks of it . . . .
[One (M8) General] roirulz:
Custom camera settings

Could the experts out here post a few custom camera settings to use in the Manual mode ?
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Heres some random point and shot pictures took of the dogs, the short coated one hates the camera and so its usually hard to get a good shot but i let you decide on how well the M8 has worked?

I took a close up in low light at the pub of a glass to show a professional photographer, he was impressed!
[One (M8) General] arses:
OMG

what clear and pretty photos.

Fantastic.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

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[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Also like some good custom setups for manual mode :)
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
+1
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
I picked up the S5 today. I can honestly say M8 owners have nothing to worry about. Low light on the S5 is feeble. The M8 is faster for all photos. Plus the M8 has all the after effects. Not saying the S5 is poor. Its not. It's just not as versatile as the M8.
[One (M8) General] gabit23:
Camera tips :

http://www.technobuffalo.com/2014/04/11/5-tips-for-the-best-htc-one-m8-camera-experience/
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Oslo, after dark, heavy movement. Try to do this with any, any, kind of software after focus :)

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[One (M8) General] starbase64:
low light

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low light 2
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Oslo, Norway, after dark

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
Teeny weeny spider. Manual , tinkered on the closer edge of a macro shot. Impressed because the body on this thing was so small you could barely make it out without a camera.

Pretty colours.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I so ****ing love this thread. You guys make me proud :laugh:

I have to tell you 90% of the M8 buyers reporting to me an extremely positive camera experience, like a pleasant unexpected suprise
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
So far so good, i just hope the purple que issue have been fixed... I got a good htc one m7 after tries (the first 3 phones got the purple issue) the last one (which i hace at the moment) doesnt have that issue, but Im starting to worrying because its getting Hot here where i live and sometimes the phone gets really hot.. (the past 3 phones didnt have that issue, it appeared with the time and use of the Camera) and i think the weather is an important factor about this issue...

I thinking on getting this phone, but it really worries me
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
The green appearing in extreme ISO and very faint, such anomalies are normal in mobile cameras, purple tint is totally fixed as assured by HTC
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
I hope that because ill buy the phone in usa and get it with me to México, so if the issue is there will be hard to claim warranty
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Well u can always wait a little for more feedback

By the way he Sgs5 has a faint purple tint, I think u better buy the HTC launch US batches they r working really hard to insure these are flawless and they r well aware of the tint issues on the M7, it was sorted on M7s built Septembeand onwards
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
These photos look great when viewing them on my phone and when resized down to about 900x506 within the post on my MacBook Air, but when I view them full screen on my 1440x900 MacBook Air display they completely fall apart. They are fuzzy and there is noise everywhere. And my MacBook Air display is pretty small and low resolution compared to most computer displays. I just don't see how you guys can completely dismiss those who claim 4MP is too low. Personally, I think the iPhone 5S and Nexus 5 got it right (in terms of hardware anyways, not necessarily software). They both struck a nice balance between pixel count and pixel size. If you only want to look at the photos on your phone or post them to Facebook, fine. They're large enough for that. But I enjoy looking back at my photos full screen on my computers and using them as backgrounds, etc., and these just don't allow for me to do that enjoyably like some other phones do. Love everything else about the M8 though.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I am not dismissing the low MP count, it should be 8MP ie 4k, but the camera is what it is and we should judge every aspect and not dismiss or bash the entire thing for pixel count, it's a great versatile camera limited in pixel count for sure not bad or lousy, if it doesn't fit ur needs u will have to look elsewhere

I agree the iPhone is a better valance but don't forget even the lumia 1020 outputs it's best downsampled image at 5MP

BTW HTC's own research shows that 90% of people never use photos outside their phones

And then ofcourse you have those who actually prefer to have a usable capture of their loved ones wether moving or in dark than to have a lush static wallpaper ;)
[One (M8) General] makatram:
I love the camera for my phone. I'll use an actual camera if I want to zoom and have high pixels
[One (M8) General] neudof:
Word..

That's why I have a d7000
[One (M8) General] Drphiligood:
The shot today while a bird was trying to fly.. look at this picture how fast speed the camera is.
[One (M8) General] BookOfRick:
More low light shots. Amazing stills in manual.

Night mode:

Manual 2.5seconds at 400iso

Night mode:

Manual 4seconds 100iso but not there yet:
[One (M8) General] Hippie459MN:
I have really been eying up this and the S5 and was really leaning to the S5 a little more cause of the poor camera reviews I have been seeing about the M8 but the whole bootloader thing with the S5 was sending me to the M8 and after seeing this thread, I think the M8 is going to be my new phone in a week or two. A lot of really impressive pictures here and the manual mode with being able to save preset setting is something I have not been hearing much about in the reviews. Nice to see some actual pictures to ease my mind.

Great pictures everyone. :)
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
That's a nice picture capturing the speed at which this camera snaps. :good:

Can't wait for my M8 to come already... Only in E/Midlands now waiting for it to be dispatched from the UK to South Africa lol :eek:

Why couldn't the brilliant minds have invented instant teleportation devices yet, that way I buy it in the UK and they instantly port it to my house grrr useless scientists :p
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Dude this site compresses the pics...bear that in mind, it's worth looking at some of the one on flickr
[One (M8) General] assasin34:
http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...xus-5-Nokia-Lumia-1520-Sony-Xperia-Z1S_id3626

Read this article and post comment later.why still insist that htcone m8 camera better than others??
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Bs review...

M8 lowest on low light.... Having a laugh!
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
No one has said it has a better camera then others . . In fact people have said other phones produce better well lit photos but some appear smudged or blurry . . .

This thread is showing people with or without the M8 why its best to have a go or even own the phone first as reviews are a looking more negative towards the camera being 4mp rather then the 13+ seen on others . . .

I will be first to admit my note 3 picked out a few more details in landscape photos but my M8 has taken faster shots and one in the dark that my note 3 wud only dream about taking