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[One (M8) General] Matthijs0402:
Android Marshmallow is able to track the usage of all resources by an app. Is there any option to order the apps list according to the usage of a resource? I am not able to order the apps according storage usage. Just me or a really big mistake of HTC?

Second question. Is there still a possibility to view running apps? Or is this also removed by HTC?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
I am around 7h myself, providing I don't play games. On kitkat was 8h+ tho... now on MM it's a little bit better vs lollipop, but the rom itself is a lot faster, smoother and better overall. :)
[One (M8) General] th3:
Yours is well established since the very start [emoji106]

My GSAM stats have also been running for long, over 1.5 years now.

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[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
What ROM and settings are you using to achieve 7hrs SoT with 1 day standby?

On stock KK I got an average of 5 hrs SoT with 17 hrs standby and on LP it fell to 3 hrs SoT and 14 hrs standby. I'm still testing Mm and I sure hope it's better that LP. If it fares better than KK it would really be a treat. I'm fully stock though.

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To get size info you have to view them in storage part of the settings. Settings, storage and USB, phone storage, apps...

To view running apps you have to access the developer options, running services.

A neat part is hidden at the bottom of advanced developer options and it's called inactive apps. Check it out.

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[One (M8) General] Matthijs0402:
Thanks for the info. Do you know what the inactive apps function is doing under the hood?
[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
I don't know. Seems like it kills the app. If it's active you tap on it and it toggles to inactive. Running the app again toggles it back to active.

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[One (M8) General] th3:
Initial numbers for MM are disastrous.

It's got the storage lag with input... taking a lot of the CPU.

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[One (M8) General] references:
What? My phone is faster with power saver mode than it was with lollipop without power saver mode.

Restart your device, if that doesn't help make a factory reset. Factory reset is always recommended after big update.
[One (M8) General] th3:
"Faster" only depends on what it was like before.

Also, what battery life are you getting now?

Mine has been perfectly fast since the start. This update has buggered it up big time.

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[One (M8) General] references:
So have you tried to do a factory reset? After the ota update I tried marshmallow 15 minutes before I decided to do a clean install, because it was lagging. After a clean install I got rid of the lag..

The battery life is great. I'm starting to get +6,5h SOT again that I used to get with kitkat.
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Give it a few days to settle down or maybe reset should do the trick. There you go, MM: autobrightness midium slider, messenger for hours, facebook, twitch stream watching, 1 hours of youtube, chrome... heavy usage + few hours out on 3g data and using it. I mean.. it's ok. That screenshot is on dev edition and elementalX kernel tho.. but on stock dev edition I had 7+h screen on, no problem.
[One (M8) General] gtfour88:
My SOT is hovering between 4-5 hours on lollipop, completely stock. 16-24 hours after unplugged. Best SOT is 5.5 hours after 16 hours unplugged. I greenify almost every app except message apps. I also press hibenate every now and then because Facebook app will often start itself. Would love to see what diff MM will make and what if I uninstall Facebook app which seems to be a big battery draining culprit.
[One (M8) General] Zile995:
Real usage..

Stock Android MM.

Viber+FB+YT. Everything turned on (WiFi, GPS, Data). 2G/3G Auto+ bad signal.

Autobrightenss, outdoor.
[One (M8) General] th3:
This is last night when I put it on charge:

But HTC Sense Input still lags greatly [emoji53]

No where else except typing and any major storage loading task. Like Battery Optimization or Apps -- mine never load.

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[One (M8) General] chamilun:
on flashed GPE rom over sense. battery life is incredible. Buttery smooth
[One (M8) General] kami2k:
Which Rom u are using? and kernel
[One (M8) General] Properly:
Excellent batery,two days without any problems
[One (M8) General] Matthijs0402:
I found out that Facebook and FB Messenger are the biggest felons. Facebook is keeping the phone awake for more than 1,5 hour per day. Messenger is a little less, around 45 minutes per day. More people experiencing this?

Is there a way to reduce this awake time? I don't want the Facebook to do anything when I don't use it. In older versions, there was an option to disable sync of the newsfeed. Is this still possible? I am not able to find it.

Messenger, same story. Why does it need to be awake? Whatsapp is doing fine without keeping my phone awake and draining my battery.
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
I got the same problem with you. I disabled facebook and uninstalled messenger. But once I read a comment about this issue. After watching video from facebook it still wakes CPU as if the video is running in the background silently. I couldn't test this. U can test if you watch video of don't watch video does it have impact on awake time.

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[One (M8) General] th3:
I've gradually tweaked my battery life, but make no joke about it -- it's lower than before, and typing regularly lags greatly (I type a lot).

My regular day:

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[One (M8) General] Matthijs0402:
I will give it a try.
[One (M8) General] Matthijs0402:
I stopped the facebook app in every way possible. I opened the app, let it load the feed and close the app. So no video. I also closed it in the running apps screen. I checked my battery stats after a bit more than a hour. Facebook had kept my phone awake for 19 minutes. So I do not think the draining has to do anything with watching video. Thanks for your help.

I will have to stop the app after every use.
[One (M8) General] CrazyCypher:
I have S.Rom with Hypernova kernel and I had problems with wakelocks but I fixed them...

If anyone else is having problems with drain in standby, you can try my method I described here: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65003434&postcount=6677

In my method there is no long and difficult setups and you dont have to install many apps, no Greenify, no Powernap, no Amplify... :) Very simple and fast and I have NEVER had such results with other methods...

Also NO problems with push notification and anything else, I leave all turned on... GPS on, auto sync on, wifi on, mobile data on, everything on :)

Before and after screenshots:
[One (M8) General] th3:
^You can do the same with Greenify or DS Battery Saver.

That's all they do [emoji14]

'Aggressive' wakes your phone up every 2 hours, that's all. It's a forced Deep Sleep.

'Gentle' will wake it every 30 minutes for notifications and sync.

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[One (M8) General] CrazyCypher:
If you do not want Facebook to run, you have to navigate to app settings and disable all notifications and sync with this app so it does not sync contact photo, etc... However, the process of the app will still run in background and the only solution I found was to install xposed and then enable module "Prevent Running" and auto prevent Facebook from running. This does not affect Messenger app, you still get messages.

Here is the fastes and most efficient way I found to make crazy better battery life: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=65004106&postcount=3259

BUT, you have to know that Facebook and Messenger are not battery draining apps, even if they run in the background. Charge the phone in the evening and unplug it before sleep. When you wake up, look under settings->power->Battery usage and see the apps that are draining the battery. You will see that the most % goes to Cell Standby, Phone idle, Wifi, Google Play Services, etc... Even if it shows Facebook usage is for example 4%, that means it used 4% of the already used battery: In other words, if you lost 10% of battery through the night and Facebook used 4%, that means Facebook really used 0,4% through the night which is nothing :) Look at my screenshots and I have Facebook and Messenger running and not disabled, the only thing I did was disable notifications in Facebook and disabled sync because I sync photos with app "Sync.me".

Also if you have Android Marshmallow, you can revoke ALL permissions from Facebook and Messenger apps :) If they will need any permission, it will ask again.. (for example when you want to upload a photo)

I hope this helps :)

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So they say, but for me, those apps did not work and I had problems with push notifications..I even purchased Greenify to enable all those extra features and still got lots of wakelocks...so I installed Amplify to remove them but it failed... So my method is the other option, it uses native settings of the integrated doze function which I think Google implemented better since it is their operating system :) "Aggressive mode" setting in the app Naptime only enables doze to kick in immediately and not wait 30 minutes of idle time. Which means minimal poking inside system settings for maximum profit :)
[One (M8) General] th3:
^You can disable FB under Application. I don't use it since long, disabled and it never runs.

I will try what you say because I can't get LL sleeping time back with MM. I'm generally used to losing 0.8-1.0% per hour max.

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[One (M8) General] notJustSomeGuy:
This only seems to be a problem on Marshmallow. For some reason Facebook and its messenger are causing huge wakelocks on MM. In a 12 hour day, I once got 8 hours of wakelocks, 5 of which were from Facebook and its messenger. However, I have gone back to lollipop and Facebook is no longer causing huge wakelocks. Battery life is noticablly better for me on lollipop with Facebook installed. I suppose you could disable Facebook as well.
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
Disabling notifications on marshmallow does the trick

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[One (M8) General] Callliope:
Some opinions? I think its far better than lollipop

Btw, Facebook killing it
[One (M8) General] th3:
I have tried everything [emoji20]

MM is better than KK and LL but the random bugs is killing my battery life.

It should have now be awesome but my kb typing still lags massively and it still has the highest battery usage. More than 2hrs of HD YouTube!!

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[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
What ROM are you on?

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[One (M8) General] th3:
I only ever use stock.

I've got rid of the kb lag. Just uninstalled HTC User Input back to factory version. Voila!! [emoji1]

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[One (M8) General] dantemetaphor:
I get around 5 and a half hours screen on time, with mm sense and full time 3g (no wifi), is this typical usage for non wifi usage? as i can see most people getting 7+ hrs are on wifi, also how old are your devices? Has anyone noticed major battery deterioration over the years, im asking this since I got my m8 second hand, and wanted to know how others are holding up.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
I have my m8 since July 2014 (kitkat) and it was great. I only use 4g (lte) because there's no wifi at work. I don't know how much screen on time I had back then but my battery life was amazing, specifically for someone who was coming from a Samsung S4. Since January 2015 (Lollipop) I never get more than 3 and a half SOT. Now I'm on Marshmallow and battery life still sucks, SOT still sucks, the exception being during the night, when I don't need it since I normally charge it during that time. I understand that the battery life has gone through a lot of charging cycles but I was hoping that Google fixed the normal use battery drain. I am with stock sense. I'm beginning to believe that I have a somewhat worse battery than other and that I should replace it, anyone tried that already? I have to charge it twice a day and it sucks. I'm a heavy user, though.

Cheers
[One (M8) General] dantemetaphor:
Have you tried recalibrating the battery?
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
No, how do I do that?
[One (M8) General] dantemetaphor:
Turn the phone off, connect to charger, let it charge while off for 2 minutes or more, then hold volume up volume down and power for 2 minutes, during which it will go through a series of reboots, then release the buttons while the phone is on and let it boot and charge fully,
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Thanks, but it seems that it dosent work on Marshmallow, according to this fellow user: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=64617616&postcount=20
[One (M8) General] dantemetaphor:
It does work for me
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Thank you again. I did that while I has still with 58 per cent of battery left, is there a problem with that? The phone did several reboots and then started safe mode, is that normal? What do I do now?

Cheers
[One (M8) General] dantemetaphor:
It shouldn't start in safe mode AFAIK, you must have had a button still pressed while powering on, but just let it fully charge to 100% and do it again when it's full for good measure.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
I never reseased the 3 buttons and it booted to safe mode by itself. On reddit these guys https://www.reddit.com/r/htcone/comments/41140g/one_m8_battery_calibration/ say its normal. Didnt happen to you, meaning, is was on that reboot loop until you relased the buttons?
[One (M8) General] dantemetaphor:
Huh, weird, then i must be doing it wrong... [emoji53]
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Anyone has a clue on how much it costs to get HTC service support to replace the battery on this very hard to fix-it-yourself smartphone?
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
I'm wondering that too

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[One (M8) General] gtfour88:
I updated to MM via OTA since last weekend. Completely stock, except greenify force stopping most apps except messaging apps, I even greenify facebook. I deliberately test the battery life pre and post MM update to see if battery life improves. Unfortunately, MM gave me worse results. 5 hours SOT vs 3 hours 44 mins SOT (and 2 hours less off the charger) with similar usage, ie. Web browsing, whatsapp, no games. Here are the gsam shots pre and post OTA update:

Lollipop:

Marshmallow:

The MM battery screenshot was after a few charge cycles but I didn't do factory reset and all installed apps and settings are identical pre and post update.
[One (M8) General] kami2k:
with #15 JAZZ
[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
Latest firmware and fully stock ..

What do you guys think of this ?
[One (M8) General] prashanth000:
For all those who have bad battery life in MM. I had a complete stock(s-on and bootloader locked) lollipop and had a day of back up max. After i took the ota to mm, i had worser battery back up than lollipop. I downloaded the signed ruu and flashed it. Now i really feel my battery backup is great. I have data on for more than 10 hours in a day and 14 hours on wifi. I get full one day(24 hours) backup.
[One (M8) General] pillopoulos:
The android and kernel consumption? Where are they?
[One (M8) General] Callliope:
I have the same thing on mm , i get above or below 4H SOT, which is better than Lollipop on my HTC M8 2.5 ghz asian
[One (M8) General] th3:
4hours SOT with clean installs?!?

Full brightness and a lot of fb?

Cus I just don't understand that...

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[One (M8) General] Callliope:
not full brightness 30% , but facebook , facebook messenger, snapchat , instagram , switching between them after 1 or 2 mins , a lot of multitasking i can say, and yes , factory reset after MM
[One (M8) General] th3:
Prob those social apps being a hog then.

Cus with normal apps and Whatsapp, 7-8hr should be easy with a proper setup.

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[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
Please define "proper set-up" :)
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
I never got more than 3,5 hours SOT. Ever.
[One (M8) General] th3:
Just... like mine [emoji13]

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[One (M8) General] smk.mosharraf:
SM-J500H Extreme battery life!!! 6.5 hours screen on time. I have got best battery life ever ?
[One (M8) General] references:
He means wifi only, don't expect more than 5-6 hours SOT with only 3g/4g use.
[One (M8) General] th3:
Maybe you've missed my postings?

Wi-Fi only I'm in this territory mate

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[One (M8) General] Callliope:
Kitkat power
[One (M8) General] skwieradee:
Same here, Max 4 if I read a lot
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Facebook app nowdays is eating the battery for breakfast, even with turned off notifications and screen off... makes you wonder what it's doing and how much it's logging back to fb in real time. :)

As for the kitkat days with a lot of whatsapp I had 12 hours and 30 minutes SOT and full day... :D Normally with 4H+ youtube and heavy usage I had 8H and full day... atleast. Battery life back then was insane. I am sure I told you before, but to cry some more about those times. hahaha
[One (M8) General] #Henkate:
I have J500FN and my best battery backup was 13 hours SOT :laugh: hahaha :D i have a screenshot somewhere in phone with that.

Usually SOT was between 7-10 hours. But not i think i ****ed up my battery because i rebooted my phone too many times last days and also was connected to PC most of the time ( so charging too) to test some things for my rom.
[One (M8) General] SaskFellow:
According to 3C Toolbox Pro:

Average battery life: 15 hours 16 minutes

Battery capacity: 2419mAh

That's not too shabby.
[One (M8) General] Caprario:
3 days with decent usage hundreds of texts a few phone calls bluetooth on connected to mi band pushing text notifications also a few hours a day of wifi refreshing gmail and other google services also a few pictures taken and some web surfing.

https://goo.gl/photos/h1eZttq1MbRShaRy8
[One (M8) General] th3:
Time alone doesn't mean much... SOT does [emoji6]

Although it shows your idling is spot on.

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[One (M8) General] Caprario:
I know haha just had flashed a new rom and had not installed a battery app... sot was about 5 hours
[One (M8) General] pillopoulos:
We have been quite stall here lately! ? Here is my usage,only 3g, Rom viperone, kitkat 4.4.4

I would like to add that I had brightness set to minimum....

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[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
Lol what's going on ?
[One (M8) General] pillopoulos:
Bad cell reception I guess? Have you tried to change your network selection to 2g/3g?
[One (M8) General] dobermann24:
Your phone habe to many wakelocks. No deep sleep more juice.
[One (M8) General] Karish1989:
Hmmm what can I do about that ? Btw check this out ..

Edit: Wi-Fi was off but still a green bar .... :o
[One (M8) General] dobermann24:
i have the same ****...i thinks its a bug when you disable it over the shortcut icon. but i dont know

look at this threads

http://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-extreme-battery-life-t3095884

http://xdaforums.com/android/general/guide-0-0-hour-idle-battery-drain-stock-t2973588
[One (M8) General] Callliope:
Some wierd things happen , i have 57% battery , i wipe cache and restart i have 44% what i should do ?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Also viber default setting is to keep wifi always on ignoring the system, something to note. :)
[One (M8) General] omer7:
Stock MM ROM (Not rooted)

Location Off

95% on Wifi

No battery saving mode
[One (M8) General] dar87:
That's almost the same as mine, I get 4 hrs 20 Mins of Screen on time. And I play Boom Beach & Clash of clans, however I don't have FB and Twitter installed, I use this app Metal instead. FB App keeps waking your phone every second, it's a rogue app.
[One (M8) General] vlaf:
ViperOne Marshmallow, browsing, telegram, without stupid facebook and messenger apps.Without power saving, stock kernel, 100% Wi-Fi.
[One (M8) General] pillopoulos:
Rom Wolla sense, slightly underclocked

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[One (M8) General] Eezay:
Wow, some more details please. LTE? 3G? Wlan? Location on/off? Final SOT?
[One (M8) General] pillopoulos:
Always 3g on, usually surfing on WiFi, lots of fb, chatting, browsing, auto brightness, underclocked at 1900mhz. Everything running smoothly. I charged it at 15%,i had 5 1/2 hours sot

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[One (M8) General] mclaren2:
after a bit of time i can now definitely say that marshmallow has improved my battery-lifetime

however i have also to add that over the last week or so the laggy keyboard has become a real anyoance :(
[One (M8) General] Callliope:
Can someone install this app https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.WazaBe.android.BatteryDrain and do a screenshot on some point of charging between 20 and 70% , and then between 80%-100% , i wanna see the charging speeds of you guys, cuz i think i`m going off the rails with this charging issue, and i wanna see if its true or its just in my head
[One (M8) General] Bobbi lim:
Is anyone having worser battery life on MM compared to L? Please compare between Sense and Sense ROM or likewise for GPE & CM.

Before commenting, make sure you have done a full wipe from L to MM or your comments will not be accurate as the "residues" and what not are brought forward from L to MM
[One (M8) General] clusterchuck:
My battery life doesn't seem all that impressive. I still lose 1% of battery life per hour when not even touching the phone. I thought doze would improve that but it hasn't.
[One (M8) General] Badelhas:
Has it affects battery life so much, don't you guys agree that the auto brightness should be more agressive in the levels of change, meaning, it should get dimmer at night and brighter in direct sunlight, without our intervention? Is there a way to fix that?

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[One (M8) General] Bobbi lim:
Doze only kicks in if your phone is on the table and has not been shifted for 30mins. If it has been shift, it'll exit out of doze and re-enter later. Doze does not work when the phone is moving around, be it you walking or leaving it in your pocket.
[One (M8) General] Phalangioides:
Wanted to see how battery would do without gapps and a bit of help from greenify and I have to say I'm impressed.
[One (M8) General] gf7800:
Hey guys why Gsam Battery Monitor drains my battery ? Anyone came across the same thing ?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
Maybe it's a bug in the power consumption reporting/calculations... I found that it's not really accurate and with 3 different kernels/roms it report in different ways the same usage/apps. :D
[One (M8) General] gf7800:
OK :) . so do you recommend a "more accurate app" than GSam ?
[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
It's not the app... they all read the same android files filled with data. It's the android itself and the kernel that is the important connection. Sadly you can't really count on what consumed how much. Look at wakelocks if standby is bad and from there - real usage and SOT after a whole day.
[One (M8) General] maxiordoqui:
Was battery better on kitkat lollipop or marshmallow? Which one. GPe or Sense?
[One (M8) General] Bobbi lim:
Kitkat at the moment is the best version of Android for any device. Lollipop and Marshmallow would have been a beast if they weren't plagued by MRA.

What's MRA? Look here: https://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=190396
[One (M8) General] Callliope:
Some help? Stock rom, rooted, elementalx kernel
[One (M8) General] maxiordoqui:
What android version are you on? Sense or Google Play?

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[One (M8) General] high_voltage:
What is troubling you? Some more info + screenshots? In stock android rom it's normal for the first two in app sucker to be those and to be high. :)

Doesn't really matter as if you remove gaps - profit in battery life. Same goes for facebook and messenger - those are draining the battery like crazy in idle use.
[One (M8) General] Phalangioides:
CM13 without gapps.