yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blackroseMD1:
It really is. Good to know that my new phone probably wouldn't self destruct if it got a little rain on it.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EtherealRemnant:
Yeah I'm happy they improved the already exceptional build quality. The M7 survived the most ridiculous torture test I've seen CNET administer while the S4 failed miserably. HTC has a lot more experience with phones than anyone else but Nokia really so it shouldn't be a surprise that they pulled this off but its still nice to see. And they did it without flaps, that's the real big FU to Sony ;)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahpatel:
The review by CNET suggests this is not true.

The Bad: The One M8’s battery is not removable, making it harder to replace once the battery inevitably wears out. The phone's sealed chassis is not water-resistant, and the One M8's photos look less sharp than competitors'.

http://www.cnet.com/products/htc-one-m8/
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billybobjones:
nobody is claiming this phone was made to be water resistant. However, spending 1hr and 30 mins in water indicates you dont have to worry about splasehes/rain/ etc.. dont take it diving and be careless
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fr0st420:
Is the removable battery even a big deal now days? Who keep their phone for more than 2 years now anyway?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ggreenwood334:
I don't see why it shouldn't be waterproof. Just another feature everyone else will have. But I could also see the point of not advertising it as water resistant. I sure wish this was confirmed.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billybobjones:
the ports arent covered. they will wear out and get ruined. so no its not water resistant
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jonny68:
Well speaking as someone who dropped their HTC One down the toilet last week (I was drunk) and waking up the next day and the phone is dead and only remembering what happened the phone turns on fine after charging it but I've tried 3 different SIM cards and they won't work and it won't turn off anytime I close it down it reboots, tried putting it in bag of rice, etc but doesn't work so I'm left with my beloved one which is unusable just as well I've insurance (even if the excess is an outrageous €95) and when I get a new one I'll sell it and buy new M8,but getting back to the original point I would be delighted if the new M8 was waterproof after what happened to me.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] colts187:
They couldn't have awesome speakers and still water proof. Most likely..
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] EtherealRemnant:
Why not? Sony did it with the Z2.

Speakers aren't a major entry point for water, ports are.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] graffixnyc:
And not even all ports.. The Sony Z ultra gpe doesn't have a cover over the headphone jack. My friend who had the Z was surprised because he said the Z had a cover over the headphone jack.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] colts187:
Yes I agree that Sony got it right with the z2. However it did take a couple of generations for them to get it right. External speakers even on the z1 is not very good. Reviewers always pointed to the waterproofing as the cause of the low speaker volume.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Traceamount:
Not sure if you worded that out of order - but the whole idea of the rice, is to do it BEFORE attempting to turn it on. If you tried to turn it on before letting it sit a few days in rice, thats the point where the damage is done. (Turning it on still moist)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaaystott:
Watch carefully through the video, I have to question its authenticity.

If you notice, there are bubbles coming from the headphone jack. At multiple times the quantity and speed of these increase, often when the camera comes back on after altering it's position. I know the camera was said to run out of storage space etc, however the bubbles suggests that the phone has been removed and replaced.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gagp2p:
thats with the bubbles i also saw - and when bubbles can go outside normally water can go inside too.

aluminium and water also not best friends. in my eyes the video is fake or manipulated.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] candytripn:
My M8 got splashed with a glass of water and the screen died in seconds. After doing the rice thing for a day, it wont light back up, though the screen does still register touch. It is NOT water proof, and doesn't seem to be very resistant either, as it was a small amount that splashed on it.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RAM_1994:
Maybe build quality varies. I spilled a whole glass on it and absolutely nothing happened. Screen, and also the speakers, works great as before. I tested them immediately. Maybe I was just lucky. But still, a whole glass, and I saw how the water filled every speaker hole.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chrischoi:
Anyone have an "accident" yet?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sn8kbordin:
I loved washing my Sony Xperia Z1S in the sink to clean it and freak out anyone that saw what I was doing to my amusement.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technogeek82:
I certainly do, and will. I buy top of the line so, I don't have to get a phone every 2 years.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fr0st420:
Well maybe htc isn't for you then. Go with something made out of plastic.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technogeek82:
No HTC is For me I love my M8, it's just I know how to take care of my things, so I don't have to buy a New device every 2 years. With the HTC Dev's I don't have to worry about New OS's etc. If I had a choice I'd still own my HTC HD2. Man I was in love with that device, still am in fact, but I made the mistake of actually thinking I could get the same phone when I sent it in to be replaced, cause the end button failed. No phone will ever be beloved as much as my HTC HD2 was, if it is possible for me to love a phone more than my HTC HD2 it would have to be my M8. I fell in love with HTC when I got my first HTC which was the T-Mobile MDA aka HTC Wizard.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] fr0st420:
I'm in the same boat. Had HTC since the Mogul. I guess I'm just spoiled with yearly upgrades. I sell the previous years phone for the upgrade fee.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] technogeek82:
I have had BLU and Samsung devices, but I always go back to HTC. I hated blu, that was a big waste of money, as for Samsung my biggest complaint is even their top of the line devices look cheap because of the plastic bodies. HTC has always made Beautiful Devices that look as great as the perform. IMHO HTC devices are the creme de la creme of Cellphones. It doesn't get more Premium than HTC.. Even Apple can not beat a HTC Phone.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Chewieez:
My main question is the title of this thread. Will upgrading from 4.13.651.1 firmware to 4.13.651.4 firmware wipe my internal storage?

I've already upgraded to 4.13.651.1 and am on the new partition layout. I know they move did wipe my internal.

I mainly ask because now that I am on the new partition layout and android 4.3, I cannot find a way to mount my internal storage to my Macbook Pro. Android File Transfer doesn't recognize my device anymore and my only option is to mount the external sd card. So I'm not sure how to easily do a batch backup of my internal storage with the new setup.

Thanks!
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] GuestK0087:
Yes, running the RUU will wipe your internal storage.
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] Chewieez:
Thanks for the reply. To clarify though, I'm not going to run the RUU. I'm just going to install the firmware+recovery zip from Capt Throwback's thread.

(running the RUU via a Mac seems like it's not worth the hassle. I may in the future get access to a pc to run it, but not in the near future)
[Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE] gstanke:
Everytime I've done it thru bootloader it wipes. Although running the ruu is strongly recommended.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaythenut:
So can i root yet lol
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt95:
Probably in a few hours you will be :laugh:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meest:
I posted some info for the people that know more than me. Hopefully it will help them. :D I'd like root as soon as I can get it. :D
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Razer9:
You can do that but you should check your warranty policy from a place where you bought your phone because it will not be valid.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaythenut:
Dam how far back did you go i posted this on day of release lol:p
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] osmosis8938:
well i CID unlocked using aWizard, and i SIM unlocked using Lokiwiz (all this is on these forums) and then i decided to flash my spv m600 to the latest arabic i-mate jamin rom.

it all went well and works fine, only problem is the arabizer suite, it installs but doesnt run, error message displayed is: cannot run on this device.

its kinda strange coz iv always used imaginet arabizer suite on any device, and not one that was originally an i-mate.

any help on this is much appreciated.

p.s. i thought id post this in upgrading as it is related :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhilPan:
I hope someone out there figures out how to get rid of these on screen buttons, what a waste of space.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nugzo:
if they remove the buttons how will you operate it? It does not have capacitive buttons like the previous one, they were removed.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PhilPan:
LMT. Usually one of the first apps I install, once we get root.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
I just couldn't buy this phone after seeing all that wasted screen space :( I am so sad
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meest:
wow I"m suprised by the hate for the soft keys. They were the big reason I upgraded from the M7.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
It's not a hate for soft keys. It's a complete hate on HTC for basically putting a huge space for capacitive buttons but saying F you and just leaving empty valuable screen space
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nugzo:
the thing you are missing here is... that area is not wasted screen space. it was never screen space, it isnt the screen down there. Yes it is black and looks like the screen but the screen ends right below the on screen buttons, above the HTC logo. If they painted it silver would that make you happy? You've posted 20 times about how mad you are and that this phone is a disaster etc... Why? it is by no means a disaster and your mis understanding of the display is causing you grief. Just buy the phone and enjoy it. There is no wasted screen space, that isnt a screen down there, its just a black bezel.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt95:
You can't completely remove them, the reasons are obvious but you could hide them while you're not using them... This will probably be implemented in some ROMs
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
Nugzo, that's nice of you to try and stick up for HTC. How come on the beautiful HTC one there is not bezel on the bottom? The truth is you don't know why so don't try and defend. I own many phones and enjoy them. Please don't let my opinion make you come up with fake explanations. Relax and enjoy your phone

FYI... IT IS completely wasted valuable screen real estate
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hlxanthus:
There are very simply edits to framework-res that can change the navbar height. Stock height is 48dpi. 42 dpi on most devices is about as short as you want to go and have them still function. Set it to zero to remove it for that matter. Just make sure you have some other way to control your device. I know there are apps to give you that control.

Of course this will require root at the very least.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ThePhoneGeek:
For me it's disappointing that they kept the logo at the bottom. If they were going to go with on screen buttons and all that's great but they should have removed that part.

Perhaps as development takes off one of the items that can be done is to remove the dock and shift the buttons down. I don't use the dock much and could live without it.

I am waiting a bit to buy mine just to see where the developer community takes this device. I am sure I am a buyer in a month or two but just not impressed enough to run out and buy day 1, week 1, month 1.

MG
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Icyman:
you sound like a spoiled brat

Who cares about the buttons. I'm sure they had a good reason, maybe space limitations, maybe they got on the band wagon, I don't know but...

We finally have a Micro SDXC slot. So go buy an S4 or better yet wait for the S5 which is going to be great according to all their marketing hype.

Regards,

GFY
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
That's good to know you are so happy with the micro SD card slot and you are making excuses as to why there is so much wasted space. You are easy to please. Enjoy!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xShin:
The space wasn't put there for capacitive buttons, it was put there because there is hardware sitting there inside the phone. Due to the hardware that's there, they weren't able to put a capacitive strip there, which is why the buttons have been moved to on-screen buttons. Of course, if you really wanted the capacitive buttons, they could've given you that, but then increased the bezel size and therefore, the entire phone.

I initially didn't like the setup either, but I've gotten over it and it hasn't hindered my enjoyment of the phone in any way.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nugzo:
Its not fake dude lol. there is a schematic of the phone in another thread, the digitizer is where the black HTC strip and logo is. In order to change that design, they would have to lose the front facing speakers. and again it is not wasted screen real estate, it isnt a screen. it is used for the digitizer. In order for it to be wasted screen real estate, it would have to be part of the screen, It is not. maybe you can consider it wasted front panel real estate, but not screen, because it isnt the screen there.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] subhumanderelict:
I think this is what he, and several others, are upset about. The M8 has a lower screen-to-surface area ratio than something like the LG G2. I'm sure the area under the logo bar is being used for electronics, but would've been nice to see this area reduced because it is not functional space for the user like the screen or speakers. The M7 made use of this space by incorporating capacitive buttons to leave the screen more free.

On the other side of things, I still don't l don't like giving up any real estate on my screen. However, there's a relatively easy fix that I use on my Nexus 7: GMD Auto Hide Soft Keys. It makes the screen completely clear of the soft keys during normal use, but you just need to swipe up from the bottom to get them back in any app. You can even customize the area that you swipe up from (position, size, etc...).

EDIT:

Link: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
Is the bezel as noticeable after using the phone a few days?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
I personally hate the wasted real estate worst feature about the phone. I'm a massive HTC fan but it was a mistake to waste space with just logo.

Still prefer this over the other phones the only exception could be Xperia z2 just have to wait and see.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Traceamount:
I don't notice mine at all

Like has been said in several threads, including this one, there is HARDWARE under the strip... Its not "wasted".
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] djkinetic:
Gmd sort of works but u have to manually toggle it on and off after each reboot
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jaa-Yoo:
Well, ifixit has done a teardown of the M8 and there doesnt appear to be anything more than flex cable under that spot, nothing more, and you look closely, there is space where the digitizer could have been extended into. As has been stated on ifixit, "This phone is a royal mess in terms of internal design"

That said, i still think its the best looking phone available. :good:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WhiteHartMart:
Don't mind the on-screen buttons tbh.

What's interesting is an app like Robird allows the buttons to float above the text of the app like they do in Blink Feed. Much less intrusive that way and still means full screen is utilised.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clax6:
Yeah it just needs to be made transparent
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
Or just add them to the wasted space area. That would make for a beautiful phone
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
For me it is would have preferred m7 style.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kayone73:
Just switch to Immersive mode that is supported in KitKat, makes the nav buttons Dissapear off screen
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BWA80:
Hi!

Anybody install a app that hides the nav buttons? Does it also move the launcher bar down to where the nav bar is when its hidden?

Thanks!
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hlxanthus:
Immersive is not a user controllable kk feature. It is supported by many apps like games and media players to hide status bar and navbar. Users can check put immersive mode in the kk easter egg (assuming m8 didn't hide it for some stupid reason). Settings>about phone>tap android version rapidly until it appears
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 3473:
I hate them. We can't edit the build.prop yet, so I got rid of them with xposed. Use LMT and GMD gesture control to control the phone
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] riz157:
The more I use this phone the more I like and the less the on screen buttons annoy. Appreciate this phone more and More
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GhastlyTT:
What exposed module are you using? I'm using gravity box to remove the nav bar and to add the pie controls. Obviously everything else in the module doesn't work so I'm looking for a lighter option.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] HtcOneJon:
I've always worried about on screen buttons, but lets be honest, if you can hide them when playing a game, watching a film, and looking at websites, then is it really a problem. The S4 has all the screen free for use but it doesn't feel very much bigger.

I think it's an excuse for people to hate on the phone, simple as that.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] l7777:
The LMT method of presenting buttons when you want them and hiding them when you're not using them is a better one than the permanent on screen buttons.

Those not liking the bezel should simply go get another device and leave the M8 forums. The space is not wasted and it isn't there solely for an HTC logo. The space is there because there are things behind it that wouldn't fit without it. I'm not a particular fan of it myself, but there's no sense in whining about it in every thread either.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hlxanthus:
There is usually radio equipment in the "chin" of nearly all modern android devices. But with the boom sound speakers in that area I believe the radios simply are shifted up slightly. As stated, not wasted space but kind of looks like esthetically. Its the trade off of the boom sound speakers on top and bottom.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JNava420:
Nexus soft keys

Hello everyone I'm hoping someone can help me with making the on screen buttons appear like nexus soft keys. I'm somewhat experienced in rooting, flashing, and unlocking. I am on verizon so I know all we have is root at the moment but am hoping there is a way to do it. If someone could help me I'd really appreciate it (not trying to hijack this thread I just don't wanna be a noob posting a new thread for something simple)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaythenut:
You need auto soft keys https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gmd.hidesoftkeys
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JNava420:
Correct me if I'm wrong but this hides them yes? I wanna theme them like what Softkeyz does it lets you customize the look of on screen keys, I want them to look like nexus or the google plays edition soft keys. Is this possible?
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] matt07930:
The on screen buttons really aren't a problem. Wasn't keen on them before I got the phone but they are actually surprisingly good to use.

As for the bezel? Who cares, it still looks nice :)
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uscool:
Hi, is there anyway to get rid the the black bar menu buttons when in browser, it disappears when in portrait but when in landscape it doesn't go away just stays on the side , just seems not getting the extra screen size to view web pages

Thanks
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jwsm:
Yeah, really hate that black navigation bar in the browser. Takes up precious screen real estate. 5" screen with only 4.5" viewable when I'm surfing. WTH???:mad:
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
I just realized this phone is as tall as a note 3... Damn wasted bezels.
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] uscool:
i have both, the m8 feels easy to hold and use with 1 hand though, maybe as its narrow and the curved back
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stu5797:
Yeah I held them side by side and was kinda shocked at how tall the m8 is. Not a big deal it's just that the HTC is a bigger phone than I thought
[One (M8) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jtc276:
I'm using Auto Hide Soft Keys which seems to be working very well.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoitsjustin:
My sister accidentally installed the OTA and somehow had TWRP. I tried flashing CWM over it after it got stuck in a boot loop because no file would flash through ADB Sideload, and it freaked out. I now get a "secure booting error", it won't back up, and when I tried a stock factory reset it just went to the same booting error. Does anybody have an idea of what I could do? I doubt I can ADB sideload without a recovery and there's no way to factory reset it. I only have access to a Windows 8.1 PC and Mac OS Mavericks MacBook. Any help is greatly appreciated; we've only had the phone a couple of weeks. T-Mobile LG G2 if it helps anybody.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] yoitsjustin:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2558806 I'm planning on trying this on either Wednesday or Thursday. Hopefully this will work...
[Sony Xperia ZL] nurav666:
I have a ZL C6506 and it's battery went out. So I sent the phone to Sony for repair. They replaced the battery and flashed the phone with an older software 4.2.2 version 10.31.A.0.244.

Now the problem is that when I go to "Update center" and search for updates, it says the phone is up to date. I know that's not true since my phone had been running 4.3 before dying.

I can't understand why my phone won't update. Does anyone have any suggestions as to how I can force my phone to update? I tried through PC Companion but no dice. It says the phone is up to date too.

Please help!
[Sony Xperia ZL] NamenIos:
Can you post your build.prop in /system/ ? Not sure if its possible without root. With adb it is simple, just use adb pull /system/build.prop.
[Sony Xperia ZL] CokeJunkee:
Download any stock firmware in .ftf format from the forums and use flashtool (http://www.flashtool.net/download.php) to flash it to your phone.

Flashtool doesn't care if your device is up to date or not. It just writes the content of .ftf files to the right partitions on the device. :good:

If you want to check if repair service destroyed your Xperia, do not flash the newest stock firmware. Download an older one. After flashing the older firmware,

try to update via PC Companion. It should work now. If not, send it back to Sony and tell them they bricked your device.
[Sony Xperia ZL] kumar abhishek:
May be they replaced your handset with a prototype :eek: