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[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
IMO its ridiculous that they are running into major bugs at this stage. They've been working on it and testing it for half a year, and now they suddenly discover a deadly bug (on the release date) that somehow they overlooked in the past 6 months.
[One (M8) General] xthetobsl:
In my opinion you're right. It's better that they squash deadly bugs before they start otas. There are many users outside that wont even recognize the update and if there are deadly bugs they dont know what to do. Not every single person is busy in this business

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Whats your source?

I did not here that! :D
[One (M8) General] caiejay:
Can we just flash this through twrp??
[One (M8) General] jordandalley:
No. There is no OTA yet for 5.0
[One (M8) General] caiejay:
I know but can i still just flash it through twrp?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
No, you need the stock recovery, and if you have a sense device, you need to convert it first
[One (M8) General] jmkhenka:
I call bollocks on that. No-one, well perhaps some devs, have the retail finnished 5.0 OTA/Image. If there was a image out the OTA would be spreading like a wildfire on XDA (nexus 5 threads).

They are probably running the DEV preview released a couple weeks ago and not final build. If they ARE running final build, post some images and start spreading FOD.

There is STILL no devices but N6 and N9 that has final retail 5.0 lollipop. There is now starting to pop up several AOSP-based (buggy ones) 5.0 roms and there is preview-images for some devices from manufacturers but those are BETA aswell.

The 12th me might se finalized images for N5/N7 etc. But not before.
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
My friend works for Google and has already gotten the ota for his nexus 5 and 7, he also sent me the above list of the ota time schedule for Android lollipop, he is a known leakster so I doubt he's lying

And just because someone got an ota doesn't mean that it would "be spreading like wildfire" not everyone likes to share on xda, some people just like to keep for themselves, and watch the world burn lol.
[One (M8) General] gagdude:
Dude. We don't need your BS here. That's taken off an article from makeuseof

http://www.makeuseof.com/tag/android-5-0-lollipop-youll-get/

(Not to mention the fact that it was clearly written by a third party, not from google)

And Nexus updates do spread like wildfires. You suck at lying. But you are right. Some people do like to watch the world burn. Reported.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Hilarious! I know 4 people that work at Google (including a family member) and I tried left and right to get any information about L starting with the name, when it would be available, what it looked like, and none of them gave me anything at all. Truth is when you work at Google and make great money, you don't forget your NDAs and start leaking information left and right. Heck I don't even know what 2 of them do at Google, the most one of them can tells me is that he works on "Search stuff", the other "assembly".

All I know is that if I worked at Google, I'd keep my eyes open for anything and my mouth shut about everything.
[One (M8) General] coal686:
The list of devices is public knowledge so maybe a friend from Google did send it out. Also, Google employees may have received updates early since they work for the company releasing them. Final testing group or something like that.

We don't know each other so it's hard to tell who's lying. For example, I have a friend who worked on the game Rage who said that AMD botched a driver update and made their game look bad when it launched. You can't verify whether I'm lying or not so what's the point in arguing about it.

So let's disarm the keyboard crusaders and play nicely because honestly it's not that important whether it comes out today or tomorrow. It's better that they get it right than ship it on time.

Thanks,

coal686
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
I was told earlier that the htc one m8 gpe will get the update tomorrow at 3 pm est, but this is unconfirmed right now.
[One (M8) General] Robcadams1974:
I would be super happy if that were true.
[One (M8) General] coal686:
If you're right then I'll eat my words, but sources say not until late November or December (this one I can look up). Not to say you're lying, but I'd be surprised if they pushed the timetable up that much. I guess we'll see tomorrow.
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
I'm hoping for it just as much as you lol.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Please stop posting about what the voice in your head tells you about the OTA, no one believes you anyways.
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
I said it was unconfirmed, there is no need to be rude, is xda not a place where people come to share ideas and opinions?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Yes, ideas and opinions, not garbage information.
[One (M8) General] Jainyankee1993:
I wouldn't be surprised if the gpe m8 got an update tomorrow or next week.. Considering the fact that Google did push the n5/n7 update back, doesn't necessarily mean they pushed everything back. If the wifi/battery bug, which seemed like the main problem was indeed fixed, I'd be very excited if Google jus sent everyone an update at the same time. Disclaimer: this is onlymy opinion, none this is written and confirmed anywhere on the Interweb
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
This is not garbage information,I'm trying to help give out information, why are you so angry with the fact I'm just trying to talk about something.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I have unconfirmed information that my phone will get Android M 6.1 today. I hope it happens!
[One (M8) General] xthetobsl:
M 6.1? :D
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Guys we are getting way off topic, let's end the argument and get back to Google play edition updates.

Google will either follow its last year's model and release the OTA for google play edition devices in about 2 to 3 weeks after the Nexus devices, or they will surprise us all and release all the updates at the same time. No one knows for sure and we all have to wait and see.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I'm hoping for sooner of course, but let's say Nexus has it's OTA tomorrow and M8 GPE 2 weeks later, we will already be about 40 days into the 90 day promise so it should not be long after that we will see Sense running L.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Yes, i agree that it defeats the purpose of a Google play edition device, especially since other devices like LG G3 is getting the update this week.

We have already reached the Android 5 and Google still hasn't sorted out the update process.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
What surprises me is that HTC must have had the L code for the Nexus 9, not final of course but enough to start working on implementing the specifics of the M8 hardware on it.
[One (M8) General] nabzilla1990:
someone in the thread said we should get an update at 3 today wishful thinking but maybe we get the update in about 1hr 30 mins lol
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Yeah, someone with about 60 posts, 3 thanks and not a lot of credibility.
[One (M8) General] nabzilla1990:
i want to keep my m8 but idk which will be faster getting a nexus 6 or waiting for the update on m8 since when did LG get so quick with updates wow....the price you pay for having the best designed phone
[One (M8) General] xthetobsl:
Why should we get in in 1hr 30?:D source?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Go back 2 pages, same thread, you'll see how credible the "source" is.
[One (M8) General] nabzilla1990:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=56652380&postcount=215
[One (M8) General] Robcadams1974:
No need to continue harping the "source". For his sake I hope an OTA is released at 3pm.
[One (M8) General] nabzilla1990:
exactly i hope he's right.....wierd no aosp builds out yet either.
[One (M8) General] xthetobsl:
In what time zone it will be released?

Jn Germany it is 20pm :D so 4 hours left?
[One (M8) General] pandaball:
Hi, please be nice to each other and keep on topic. Thanks :)
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
Listen dude I've done nothing wrong OK, I said that that report was unconfirmed, obviously it didn't happen, but there is no need to bring my credibility into question OK, I was just throwing out some things I had heard, just like everyone else does on xda.

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I really don't understand why people insist on being so hateful and rude to one another on xda, have I been rude to any of you. No I haven't so stop saying I have no credibility.

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I would say wait for the update, I would assume it would have the boomsound drivers and be able to use the built in depth sensor, I myself have considered the nexus 6 but until I can hold it in my hands and see if it would be a good fit I'm up in the air.
[One (M8) General] scifan:
Sometimes people get told something by someone they believe is credible, and rather than keep it to themselves, they share it...

And when it doesn't happen as expected they get flamed, ridiculed, and then the next time they keep potential privileged information to themselves because of the past experience.

(This happened to me - with information about a different phone I was given by someone who worked at T-Mobile... who had been right numerous times previously. The update didn't occur as expected because an unexpected memory drain issue that was found in testing...)

I'll be glad when the update drops... But there isn't any reason to get that excited if it doesn't drop when someone expects it to...

*shrug*
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
I understand that happens sometimes but damn dude people are crazy.
[One (M8) General] duskdiyebiri:
Last time I got my 4.4.4 update before my friend's Nexus 5.

There's no relationship between Nexus update and GPE update.
[One (M8) General] xthetobsl:
Well we have to wait now untill December...I did not hear any other unconfirmed or confirmed release date after 12 of November

Guess end of November maybe
[One (M8) General] Robcadams1974:
I wonder if and when the other GPE devices will receive OTA updates?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
There aren't that many so I can't imagine it will take a long time. HTC does have a good amount of stuff to adapt though (boomsound, camera, kernel wake gestures, probably things under the hood) so that will add to the amount of time we need to wait.

This is just me of course so it ain't worth much, but I have a feeling the GPE update and the Sense update won't be too far apart.
[One (M8) General] huuhung1178:
I think GPE should be updated software by Google instead of HTC! Sorry if I'm wrong.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
From what I understand, Google gives the source to HTC, HTC adds the specifics of the phone (boomsound, duo camera...), then give it back to Google for distribution.

We know Google is already sending OTAs to some phones so I don't believe in the "google will hold the OTA until they update the nexus phones", but is HTC done preparing it? Who knows.

For now I decided that unless I see it from [MENTION=1862878]movers[/MENTION]i on twitter or on a reputable source, the OTA is not happening in the short term.
[One (M8) General] fraehngi:
Two days ago [MENTION=1862878]movers[/MENTION]i tweeted that they're about to release an update timeline this week. Guess we will see something the next days
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Too sad to hear this. Releasing the "time-line" this week can only mean that the actual OTA will be much later than that.
[One (M8) General] fraehngi:
He said also that GPE will get Lollipop a lot sooner then sense m8
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Yep. I'm guessing that if he said there would be a timeline this week it's because the update won't be this week, probably closer to end of November.
[One (M8) General] fraehngi:
Or maybe they give us a timeline for the sense based devices and will roll out GPE Lollipop a day later or so
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
He said it would be a timeline for GPE, and that there would be a timeline for Sense as we get closer to it.
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
Well nexus devices got otas today so hopefully gpe devices aren't too far behind.
[One (M8) General] benj!:
I had a dream last night that I got the OTA. Imagine my disappointment at checking my phone to find no such thing at 4am.

*needs to get out more* :-/
[One (M8) General] jordandalley:
Lol... I can relate, though i haven't had dreams about it.... yet.

I have my old Nexus 7 with Android 5 on it to get me by for now :P
[One (M8) General] androidwissen:
"The first set of devices to run this new version of Android -- Nexus 6, Nexus 9, and Nexus Player -- will be available in early November. In the same timeframe, we'll also roll out the Android 5.0 update worldwide to Nexus 4, 5, 7 (2012 & 2013), and 10 devices, as well as to *Google Play edition devices*."

http://android-developers.blogspot.de/2014/10/android-50-lollipop-sdk-and-nexus.html?m=1
[One (M8) General] benj!:
Of course they could just mean they're providing the source to the OEMs who actually do the rollout, but here's hoping :)
[One (M8) General] Wingzer:
Fingers crossed its sooner.

I'm sure a recent update 4.4.3 maybe? Came out for GPE M8 only a day or so after the N5.
[One (M8) General] xthetobsl:
But that was only a small Update. So I guess some days will pass by...maybe 1 or 2.

The hope will die at last ;)
[One (M8) General] benj!:
Apparently 4.3 was delivered to GPE devices within a week... http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...e-play-edition-samsung-galaxy-s4-and-htc-one/

4.4 under a week as well http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...lling-out-to-the-google-play-edition-htc-one/

*sleuthing* :P
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Wasn't 4.4.4 pushed to the GPE devices before the nexus?

I'm sure to won't be long, but will it be 2-3 days long, or 2-3 weeks... Who knows
[One (M8) General] xthetobsl:
I think they maybe already have the final version ready but don't want that hight tide for the server that they crash ,so they just wait for one or two days until they release the next version and so on
[One (M8) General] instigator008:
Apparently a lollipop gpe ROM has leaked. Anyone try it?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2706391
[One (M8) General] thekalby:
Downloading now! So excited to test this out!
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
It works great
[One (M8) General] PhoenixMert:
That rom is so smooth :highfive:
[One (M8) General] thekalby:
Did you guys flash new firmware of any sorts? Some people were complaining it was slow and they had to flash firmware. I'm currently running the HTC (not GPE) bootloader. i should be fine right?

EDIT: Just flashed the new firmware anyways.
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
Yeah just heard about the leaked lollipop rom for the m8, apparently skydragon wants to protect their source.
[One (M8) General] Ladrero:
We are going to get Lollipop early next week. Mo Versi (HTC VP Product Manager) said it on Twitter.

https://twitter.com/moversi/status/533145251234738176
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Don't get too excited, he said that the timeline would come early next week, not the OTA. Early next week he could tweet that the OTA will be mid-December.
[One (M8) General] jpcdeux:
HTC says its still in 0 - Evaluation status. They said they'd have it out within 90 days after they receive from Google.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
Sense, not GPE
[One (M8) General] jpcdeux:
Developers edition is sense? Since I'm continually being told I'm wrong, tell HTC

http://www.htc.com/us/go/htc-software-updates/#device-content
[One (M8) General] 2shellbonus:
Dev edition is Sense
[One (M8) General] gutbomb:
Yes, developer edition is Sense. Sense will be 90 days. GPE will be next week.
[One (M8) General] jpcdeux:
NM. I see now. Forgive the ignorance. Hard to keep up sometimes
[One (M8) General] thelangosta:
Keep up! I can't even do that as I just got the phone and have to learn a whole new language first. RUU/FUU/S-ON/S-OFF/Etc...My head is spinning from reading.
[One (M8) General] sphyyr:
RUU: ROM Update Utility

FUU: Firmware Update Utility

S-ON: Security On

S-OFF: Security Off (able to break things easier)

*someone correct me if I am wrong*

All pretty straight forward stuff, HTC is relatively Dev. Friendly.
[One (M8) General] thelangosta:
Thanks, it all just sounds different coming from Motorola and Samsung phones.
[One (M8) General] jpcdeux:
That's how I was a few days ago. I'm used to s5 and Samsung stuff!

Last HTC I messed with was OneX I got free. Bricked and promptly smashed
[One (M8) General] thelangosta:
I'm just going to cross my fingers and hope that my GPe converted ATT phone gets the 5.0 update without any issues. If not then I'll have more reading to do.
[One (M8) General] jpcdeux:
Me too! I figure worst case I'll flash a stock ROM. Already loving the L release out now so I'm sure official will be quite nice
[One (M8) General] AnimusVoxx:
I'm pretty sure we will see it soon, hopefully this month, I mean the leak we are seeing right now is pretty stable, not sure what else they really need to work on, I mean BoomSound works, the depth sensor works, most of the drivers are working I would say, only thing I can see wrong is it gets laggy sometimes and freezes for a few seconds. Other than that it's pretty good.

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And actually he said the ota target is for next week not the timeline so yeah we should get it next week.

Here is my source BTW, so my credibility isn't called into question again.

http://www.idigitaltimes.com/htc-on...ta-rollout-begin-next-week-google-play-395127
[One (M8) General] jordandalley:
Not sure what I'm doing wrong here, but the leaked GPE update I flashed using fastboot - eg:

fastboot oem rebootRUU then fastboot flash zip M8_L_update.zip

All flashes fine, but then the phone boots into 4.4.4 as normal. Is this update BS or for real?
[One (M8) General] sphyyr:
If you are on GPE, then you need to flash the firmware update as well as the ROM, update from RUU and ROM from recovery, if you are on sense then just flash the ROM from recovery, no need for the firmware.
[One (M8) General] jordandalley:
Ah.. so technically it's not really GPE. It's a custom rom?
[One (M8) General] sphyyr:
Custom ROM based off a leaked 5.0, no really custom stuff per se but not stock gpe.
[One (M8) General] jordandalley:
Meh. Think I'll wait for the OTA :) Can't be long now..
[One (M8) General] androidwissen:
Custom ROMs cant get the ota ;)
[One (M8) General] jpcdeux:
And? Nothing a flash in recovery won't fix. Then again who needs an OTA when you're already on L?! ;)

The L OTA checks make it sound like anyone rooted will fail as it checks system as a whole now and if one little bit is different, fail
[One (M8) General] :
Exactly. "Early next week" meaning today or on Tuesday.
[One (M8) General] LDSign:
Hi

If I convert my ARHD M8 to the official GPe 4.4.4 now - will I receive the offical "next days" lollipop ota without any problems?

Which firmware should I use (have 3.28.401.6 now)?

Is S-OFF and rooted ok for this?

Thanks,

Frank
[One (M8) General] boringalex:
The conversion RUU will flash everything needed, don't worry.

S-OFF is required anyway...
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I hope that one of the early "chosen" ones for the OTA will include someone that cat extract the ZIP and make it available for everyone to download. Via Google it might take days, even a few weeks before the rollout reaches all the phones but if one person makes it available, then no one has to wait :)

I know if I see the OTA I'll try to figure out where the file is and then host it somewhere.

Would be interesting to see the stats at Google. "We pushed to 5% of the phones, and within an hour, 30% of the phones are on L"
[One (M8) General] benj!:
What's the normal process for doing that? Let it download and then find it? Root required, I assume?
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
I'm not sure, I hope not because I think most people right now are on stock 4.4.4, or a custom rom with Android L and root but anyone on that ROM won't get the OTA, it's already version 5.

Maybe there is a way via ADB to do it.
[One (M8) General] Rouz.:
Guys, if any of you received the update, please do NOT forget to pull the OTA file before you flash it! You can help a lot of us on this forum.
[One (M8) General] benj!:
Having root doesn't stop you getting the OTA on full GPE conversion, does it?

I converted back again over the weekend after trying Skydragon but haven't rooted again. Will do so in case I do get an OTA, I don't think you can access the cache partition without otherwise.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
No, in fact you probably need to be rooted to have access to the file. Being rooted won't prevent you from getting the OTA but it might prevent from installing it.
[One (M8) General] tschakk:
As far as I know it doesn't matter if your device is rooted or not. You need to have the GPE ROM installed & the recovery image must be the right one. Then you'll get the OTA & can actually install it.
[One (M8) General] cadialex:
On the Moto X 2014 OTA, users that had or had ever had root were not able to apply the update successfully. That's because of a new OTA system that patches directly the System Partition and not individual files within it.

So probably some bootloops for rooted users. If you wanna avoid this issue, I'd recommend flashing the not-rooted RUU
[One (M8) General] graffixnyc:
Not fully true.

1. It does patch the system each file at least on the Moto X it did. (I'm looking at the ota zip now and attaching a ss)

I think going forward with ota's after 5 it will patch the system partition. I think they had looked at an OTA zip for either the Nexus 9 or even 6 and discovered the system partition patch instead of file by file.

2. You can be rooted and get and apply the update. At first it was thought you couldn't be but the people it failed for were ones who improperly tried to unroot to take the update. The other people it failed for were not just rooted, they had either other system mods done, had a different model than the pure edition (so things like patching the radio failed), had a different radio flashed or just some other funkiness going on.. I know a few people who took the update while being rooted without a hitch. One was my co-worker at swappa. He was rooted and the ota applied fine.

Will future updates apply fine? Probably not if you root 5.0. Especially if you root on 5.0 because with root and 5.0 it not only modifies the system but also the boot.img so that would also fail in an OTA post 5.0

Now..will the GPE be similar to the Moto X ota? No way in telling until it drops.. Everyone can guess everyone can speculate but right now that's all it is.. Guessing...
[One (M8) General] Robcadams1974:
So is it necessary to have the Google MID to receive the OTA update? I changed my CID to the Google CID.
[One (M8) General] thelangosta:
That's the speculation. Again since no one has actually received the OTA there's no way to know for sure. My CID is right but my MID is not. I can't decide what I want to do about it. 1. Flash the unrooted RUU. Or 2. Just change the MID. I'm waiting to see what happens for now.
[One (M8) General] Nic2112:
And don't forget that if you RUU back to Sense, the MID might not work anymore. For me, ...12000 works for the GPE and Sense RUU (Brightstar), but if I set my MID to ...17000, then my Sense RUU doesn't work anymore. Might not be a problem for you if you don't RUU, but something to consider
[One (M8) General] thelangosta:
Yeah, I've only had the phone activated for about a week. My MID is 12000 on a phone converted to GPe from sense. I bought it this way so I have a lot of learning to do still.