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[One (M8) General] th3b3:
hamdir, your pics are truly amazing! Myriam Joire at engadget took some lovely pics of San Francisco for the M7 review. They are almost as nice as yours! It's funny all of these people are coming out to bash the M8. These are paid "Astroturfers" they always come out during a product launch and spread disinformation about a competing product. It's the new marketing trend and works with social issues, lawsuits, political issues etc. I really enjoyed your pics that you shared. It will propel me to take a second look at the M8. I for one dont purchase a phone in lieu of a good camera. Although the best pics are the ones you are able to take and for most people that means with their phone's camera. http://stadium.weblogsinc.com/engadget/files/HTCOneSamplesAndComparisons.zip
[One (M8) General] blestsol:
What's up with people not understanding that people have different standards and that their experience is just theirs??
[One (M8) General] NJGSII:
I understand people have different tastes. My post was from the perspective of a non camera guy.
[One (M8) General] msavic6:
Macro Mode sucks on the S4 aswell...

Of course the S4 isn't even usable in low light situations at all...

Its just completely horrible...

And the worst thing of all is that I can actually zoom in and crop these photos however I please.

The interesting thing is that you are getting all rattled trying to defend the UltraPixel setup but all your really doing is showing what everyone already knows it can do. Nobody said it did poorly in Low light situations but it is known that it does poorly in daylight and lacks resolution therefore eliminating any possibility of zooming/cropping.

You made it seem like I claimed the S4 had ultimate superiority over all smartphones in the camera department. It doesn't, but you also played it out to be garbage and completely unusable which based on my images, proves it is a very capable camera phone.

Want more proof? I'll glady post more.
[One (M8) General] Shan89:
I'm not sure did you really saw your pics or just posted them but every low light pic has grain lol and it sux with movement lol , the photo from the car is blurry as **** , the only good pic is the frog one and the eye ....
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
I don't know I disagree. I think it looks fine for a smart phone.

And it isn't like there are all these awesome smart phone cameras around. I have the g2 and I can't stand that camera.
[One (M8) General] SuperMarioGalaxy:
Looks fine for a smartphone? I'm saying, why do this in the first place if it looks like this. Smart phone cameras will never be awesome. You just can't get near what a DSLR can do. They are good for casual shots, information. But better is still better and you might even get something publishable shots out of a smartphone camera. Best to my knowledge ATM are Nokia and Xperia. The add-in bokeh blur effect is not so good on any smartphone, its trying to look like something its not and that's always bad. You can't make something bad to good with gimmicks.

BTW, who would ever expect phone cameras to take good to excellent night shots? They simply don't have the sensor/pixel size for that stuff.
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
Because I'll never carry a camera around with me and these shots are fine for viewing on gplus, Facebook etc.
[One (M8) General] Shan89:
Dunno have you checked your eyes or even saw your photos but all photos from low light are GRAINY ... the movement photos are BLURRY ... the only good photos are the frog and the eye....

And no please no more posting this hurts my eyes !!!

Here i'll be kind and TEACH YOU off charge this time :)

This is how MACRO should look like :) but you'll never know i'm afraid.

This is how pics that S4 will NEVER make look like

1, Flashlight

2, Flashlight + Movement.

3. Flashlight perfectly balanced and 98% accurate colors.

4. Tricky exposures.

5. Direct SUNLIGHT HDR , for this matter none phone TODAY can do this :)

6. Fast movement.

7. Fast movement 2.

As for your blurry pic outta CAR .. i'd assume you were going for about 100MPH ? GREAT !

Here the pic from TGV ( the french train that goes for 500MPH )

See the difference ?

Here how low light blur free looks like :)

This is how it looks like to catch a bee in flight :) BLUR FREE

This is how your GS4/5 will see at IT"S BEST in low light.

And this is how i'll see with HTC One / m8

Feel free to crop my pics and yours then post the results , i'd love to see the end results :D

Oh btw this is from M7 ... .M8 is even better XD !
[One (M8) General] tehsquishmeister:
It's nice to see people that actually know what they're talking about smash through the FUD.

Great pictures, thank you.
[One (M8) General] Frankie1588:
Fantastic pictures!!
[One (M8) General] jesr:
From the M8 camera whitepaper.

Will it be as effective as OIS? Not likely but it's not like the M8 completly lacks in this regard.;)
[One (M8) General] SuperMarioGalaxy:
Oh please... I'm not really defending the S4 or any other but your claims are invalid.

Macro? That hasn't seen macro, and are not so much different from what can be done with S4. The first pic is focused on the flower in the supposed BACKground.

Taking pics from fast moving vehicles? Ever heard of fast shutterspeed? Can be done on any camera. And FYI, its a "little" bit different to take a picture almost forwards, to the direction the vehicle is headed than to the side of the moving vehicle.

Flash succeeds to completely drain the life out of any picture.

Low light blurfree? The whole image is one big blur. Point it to the sky and you see the same blur as the S4.

Blurfree bee? Its hard to distinguish the bee from the pic because of blur... The thing not blurred is the flower which is the main attention here.

HDR is a joke. So unrealistic and washed out.

Sorry to burst your HTC fan-bubble. Maybe best not teach something you don't know much about. No offense, it just irks me to see someone so arrogantly boasting about something and then knowing nothing about it. You were promoting false information here. The HTC camera is perfectly adequate, just not better than any other smartphone camera.
[One (M8) General] HolyAngel:
Dude. Just leave the m8 section. You obviously don't care and don't own the phone nor plan to, you've been derailing this thread for pages. Unnecessary.
[One (M8) General] Sensamic:
My two year old Samsung Galaxy S3 takes far better pictures than this 712€ HTC One 2!!!

Unbelievable.
[One (M8) General] c5satellite2:
There are a lot of people here who need glasses and need to stop equating a bigger number as better. There has been explicit examples of Ultra Pixel vs traditional sensor(m7 vs z1) and it is obvious that the m7 crushes the z1.

Too many people cant take good pictures because they have no knowledge of photography and light, and just blame it on the camera because they THINK they are great photographers. You are probably not. Photography is a mix of science, art and imagination.

I take some incredible pictures with my m7. I dont expect poster size resolution or high amounts of zoom/crop out of a cell phone because it is unrealistic.

Anyone who thinks the iPhone 5 camera is the best, needs to either see their eye doctor or check into a mental health facility.

Summary: stop *****ing about the hardware, put the blame where it lies, on yourself.

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It probably takes better pictures than a DSLR too because you said so.

ANOTHER PAID SAMSUNG TROLL
[One (M8) General] E_n_T:
Picture in panorama. Copenhagen.

Skickat från min HTC One_M8 via Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
Both enhanced with SnapSeed HDR. I really love the Pixel Details this camera captures. Really enjoying working with post processing.

Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] jirald:
I hate installing 3rd party apps...so glad built in cam/edit give me what i want...
[One (M8) General] Slash8915:
So basically, always take pictures in HDR mode?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
UltraPixel Wars II #HTCOneM8

Ultrapixel Analysis
[One (M8) General] john291:
i dont agree with you at some points,

I have still the htc m7 but i did send back my new htc M8(i hope they take it back) because:

I think the over exposure is worse on the htc m8 then on the htc m7.

Also the purple ringing is worse..

Also its missing its image stabilasation.

Its a great Phone and wins on the other points like better speakers and a little faster,bigger screen,but the picture qaulity is the same as the htc m7 and some points are even worse i think...

Dont get me wrong its a great Phone but the camera isnt a move up i think..

Sorry for my bad english by the way..:o
[One (M8) General] NIK516:
This was a macro shot taken in manual mode, I shot it in manual mode so I could use the fastest shutter speed and lowest I so for max sharpness with the water droplet. Also the manual focus set to shortest length then I just moved up to the droplet until it was in focus.

The camera is great just need to use manual more.
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
I respect your opinions totally but he clearly has proven this camera Is better then M7's and others in ways

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Just tried the sushi in 3D :o it's epic that's all I can say! Makes me wanna eat my phone never mind lick it haha!!
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I took tons of photos in one day, default exposure and settings are left on defaults

And you are wrong, not one shot came out over exposed, in fact the proof is that it under exposes low light shots this is why I rely on custom filter to brighten them later

But I will explain to you why you had exposure issues: the typical UltraPixel user mistake, you are relying on manual focus targeting before taking a shot, if you pick any darker target the whole image will over expose as it tries to bring details out of the shade, in all my shots yesterday I completely relied on auto focus unless I'm using HDR in which I have relied on focus lock

The M8 fights over exposure like it's worst enemy (compared to M7) provided you use auto focus ie: point and shoot

By the way my software is 1.54 so its also a factor to keep in mind
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] could you share your custom presets for low light / day light. Exposure,sharpness,saturation etc

Cheers
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Sunlight, warm as hell and almost impossible to see anything on the screen.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=4133285]DigitalMadness[/MENTION] is there is a way to export custom gallery filters?

and your shots reveal what i was saying in the previous thread, on auto focus the M8 resists over exposure pretty hard

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one more album:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/tnkgrl/sets/72157644331976056/
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] i dont know if you can export it. You could otherwise write down what you use in low light and good light conditions and we could save the presets ?.

I think one of my pics was shot in HDR, cant remember which one though. The one on the church tower is a bit under exposed imo. I like the camera, it makes you put an effort in taking photos. A real challenge sometimes ?
[One (M8) General] zaydaboss:
Great shots.would pay money for a tutorial for presets and tips all consolidated
[One (M8) General] Kyoraki:
Does anyone know what HTC added exactly in their update to the gallery app? I've been playing with the camera for the past half a week, and I've noticed a huge increase in the quality of U-Focus shots since yesterday. Much better focusing, and zero visible de-focusing lines.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
officially: it adds forgrounder chose target ability

i haven't noticed these improvements, Ufocus remains meh....

version 8.0.772131
[One (M8) General] iggdawg:
To all those asking for exports of presets and tutorials, all the info is all right here. Just comb over the posts Hamdir has already made. I had an Inspire 4g (Desire HD) a few years ago and stumbled across Hamdir's camera guide for it. Since then I have a note in Evernote that I scribble down any suggested tips/tricks for whatever device I'm using. Mostly Hamdir's. Now I can even save presets in the camera after seeing what works for me, instead of going through and adjusting back and forth all the time..

There's no way you can go through this thread back to front and not pick up a ton on how to take the pics you want. Lots of people list what settings/filters they used to get the pics they're posting. "But there's so many pictures!" Well, that's the point lol. Find ones that look like the sorts of things you want to do with your camera, and if the user didn't post what settings they took it with, PM them and ask. This is sort of what community's all about.
[One (M8) General] kungfubo-xda:
WOW it's amazing

how did you do that?

Could you please share your settings? I'm not seeing them in image properties.

Thanks!
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
EV: -0.5

Saturation +0.5

Sharpness -1

Auto/HDR
[One (M8) General] ordg7341:
Took these yesterday. Camera hasn't failed me, yet.

Edited: All the pictures except the lonely red flower were done on AUTO with no edit to the exposure, sharpness, or contrast.

The lonely red flower was accidentally taken under the TEXT camera settings.
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
These pics are phenomenal... Someone really should make a thread that has all the tips in one place. I would love to take gorgeous pictures like these with my phone - and I had a Desire HD too (the Inspire 4G) and always hated that camera so obviously I could have used hamdir's guidance with that one.

This camera takes phenomenal photos but I did notice that it exaggerates redness in the face - a selfie the other day made me look like I had pizza face hardcore. I was not amused. My friends were though. -_-
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
a little over three years now :)

Man i have to admit till this day i remain in love with the Desire HD sensor, I remember the first day i've used it, i was mind blown as it was the first time i have owner a phone with a proper camera where digital abuse is limited or can be limited and tons of control

sadly HTC slipped few different sensors on the Desire HD, so things were a little confusing for some users, then the One X was a digital processing overload where barely anything could be done to control things but HDR remains it's best trick ever and it invented this whole instant shutter trend, they scaled back processing a little with M7 + introduced low light power and now with the M8 we are back at full camera control just like the DHD days, sadly with less number of pixels but better pixels :)

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are you sure makeup level is at zero? and you didnt not increase saturation by mistake? (i keep raising that by mistake when i go to camera settings, this screen is so crazy sensitive)

check the desire HD photos: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=875230 and https://www.flickr.com/photos/56930129@N03/sets/72157625585331314/, tell me if that's a camera you would hate :) all these photos were taken a just few days after aquiring the Desire HD
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
Yeah I checked the makeup level, its at 0. Its possible I bumped the saturation... The screen sensitivity should be adjustable because I had to put a case on to stop hitting things on the edges by mistake lol.

I saw the pictures from DHD after I got rid of mine, I just never played with image settings... Its my own fault.

I'll have to play with this camera in various settings and see what I can make of it. It does appear to take much better pictures out of the box than the M7 in my opinion so I need to really take it out and put it to use.
[One (M8) General] verminatorno5:
do you leave the settings like that for all shots or just bright scenes and landscape shots?
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
For all scenes. Im not good at photographing lol. Auto mode on everything. Sometimes HDR ?
[One (M8) General] memekmek:
This might have been discussed already, but has anyone noticed an obvious distortion from the front cam? this happens no matter what you do unless the camera is perfectly perpendicular to the floor. (facing you precisely) if there is any angle, there is a clear distortion. back camera is perfectly fine.
[One (M8) General] Lefteris Fragiadakis (Frago):
The first is stock and the second is having different auto focus and a filter
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Went to see Jeff Dunham tonight . Being inside a arena and being far back camera did well and best over others I've used inside a venue so I'm very optimistic that when I go to see my favourite band next month this camera will shine :) here are some and after ward's out side
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Beautiful morning over here in Qatar :D
[One (M8) General] citronbull:
Taken early morning at the golf course HDR Mode.
[One (M8) General] EtherealRemnant:
I'm no professional but this picture impressed me because of how well it came out in such a difficult lighting situation (the light coming in the window plus a small bit of light from a lamp to the side) and it still managed to capture a lot of detail.

Focus point was the Alienware laptop to get some more light in the image.

Auto/EV -.5/Sat +.5/Sharpness -1

Not bad for a quick snap at all. The M7 would have really struggled with this.
[One (M8) General] NIK516:
Sunset in la perouse Sydney Australia, edited in snapseed . I'm suprised how much information and detail is in the jpegs , they should add raw support great files .

Enjoy the m8 it's a great phone
[One (M8) General] duckstardeluxe:
One with and one without HDR. Ev-0,5 sharpness also - 0.5

Sendt fra min HTC One_M8 med Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
These all came out different.

Two are auto. The last is manual

HTC UltimEight ?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Some comparative shots in challenging sunset backlight

HDR (cropped + 16MP filter)

Full Size

I prefer the original over the upscaled version, notice how much detail is collected in the center tree, my camera has no left side blur what so ever in auto focus unless i change the center of focus

HDR (original)

Full Size

Auto (focus on the middle tree, sharpness -0.5)

Full Size

Front Camera

Full Size

The interesting part: another example why the rear camera is not just four megapixels, the rear camera actually is more zoomed-in despite the 4mp vs 5mp label, as for detail well judge for yourself

The tiny pixels on the front camera collects no detail at all in the trees and car detail, in darker scenarios it becomes smudge land
[One (M8) General] vegetaleb:
Hahahaha the crazy Beirut landscape :silly:

I think Z2 results in crops will be like the 5mp front camera but I wonder how it compares to cropped photo from S5 in this exact same scenario
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
the Z2 doesnt smudge as bad as the s5 mate, Sony went with more noise/detail rather than smudgefest, i think the s5 will fail miserably in these conditions especially with the default anti shake function, as you can see from the front camera, it's dark and there is a lot of shade but the ultrapixel likes to play exactly in those conditions

more Beiruty craziness for you ;)

you notice the blur on the bottom left side of the HDR photo above? that's because i have locked focus to the top right shinny building, otherwise this HDR wouldn't have worked
[One (M8) General] boofhead:
Jooosty, the middle photo of the rx7 has the best looking color of the three. a bit off topic but if your rx7, what engine is in it?

this photo is of my engine in my series 6 rx7 taken with my htc m8 in auto. just a quick point and shoot.
[One (M8) General] kungfubo-xda:
thanks

i'll try it out
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
It's a first gen RX7. Series 2.

The engine code is 12A . 105Hp of fury. Lol

HTC UltimEight ?
[One (M8) General] mancuk29:
Amazing on macro
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Deleted cuz the new Xda update doesn't let me upload pix anymore ! Something is wrong Sry
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
This ice cream sandwich theme in the New update is a bit late lol.

HTC UltimEight ?
[One (M8) General] VitaliyUvakin:
Camera is better then I expected, for me anyway
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
Could we make time lapse ?

HTC M8
[One (M8) General] bobdude5:
A little bit of editing done in the stock gallery
[One (M8) General] androidkid27:
Quick snap NYC
[One (M8) General] androidkid27:
Another
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Awesome One (M7/M8) photo Album

Dawnielle Rene' Flickr HTC One Album
[One (M8) General] stuart0001:
M8 + running toddler = in focus = the perfect smartphone camera for me.
[One (M8) General] Chris_c81:
Haha know that feeling! Must have for parents :)
[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
Yep... lol

With other cameras, pics of my son would end up looking like those haunting photos.
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Some great shots with no much effort worth mentioning ! Only point and shoot and some hdr pix :) that's truly awesome camera to carry on instead of my bulky 5DmarkII LOL
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
HTC M8
[One (M8) General] David522d:
Yah..

Sent from my unlocked m8.
[One (M8) General] Dreadsteel:
So when I got my m8 I immediately put a Google okay edition ROM on it. So I never experience the sense camera. From these pics it seems that the Google play edition camera quality isn't good as sense.

My question is, anyone here know of a good third party camera that can improve the quality and being the Google play edition closer to sense?

Thanks
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Thats just insane. Totally insane picture. Nice mate, keep em coming ?
[One (M8) General] Darknites:
Just some pics of my cats.
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
So this may sound stupid but stay with me . . .

The depth sensor? Is it a camera?
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2722352

According to that Thread starter it's an actual camera.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Yes it's a 1080p camera, there is an app floating on the web to extract the image
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Thanks guy I thought I'd read somewhere it was . . So with that in mind when photos are taken with it . . Are they taking two photos at same time resulting in slightly higher then 4 mp??
[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
The second camera only records depth information so the resolution is 4.1MP but with added data of the secondary camera.

What do you think about the news/leaks that HTC is going with a 13MP camera for the M8 Mini and an 18MP for the M8 Prime (both apparently without the Duo Cam setup)... ?

Sent from my Pocket Computer.
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
I'm really hoping the prime is the big version or phablet of the M8 . . I wouldn't be happy if HTC decided to play into Samsung/Sony hands by introducing another flagship in a few months :(
[One (M8) General] Shebee:
Yeah, I'm getting the M8 tomorrow, and if they really release a new flagship within a few months, no more HTC or samsung for me.

Guess I'd have to start using old phones.
[One (M8) General] iggdawg:
The image that the second sensor takes is used to extract depth information, basically by processing the difference between the two images. The same detail isn't needed for just grokking depth info, thus the smaller sensor.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
The rumours are stating 5.5" for the Prime so yea it's a Note fighter, I dont think HTC will repeat mistakes of 2011, they were happy with the Mini / Max varieties last year so I think the same will happen this year except we have a new comer the M8 Ace which is the same as M8 but plastic and 13MP non UltraPixel (to feed the camera haters and counter the expected price drop of sgs5)

Basically the prime should have the same size as Desire 816