yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
Ok cool thought you were referring to me. Actually sense 6.0 is about half the size of an lg operating Rom so that isn't subjective its a fact. And lag is actually a common problem on the g2. look it up.

Im not sure if you have done any developing but I do and LG phone stock software can be a drag to say the least. There is AOSP development but most Roms are buggy.

We should just agree to disagree and move on.
[One (M8) General] Rippley05:
We do just disagree, and that's fine.

I agree, most roms for the G2 are buggy, but unfortunately..anything other than stock is buggy for more phones than not.

I was a little hard on this phone, but I stick to my opinions. I just really wanted it to lure me back to HTC. :good:
[One (M8) General] animaleyes76:
Colby Brown didn't fair too badly for such a "terrible" camera.....

http://www.colbybrownphotography.com/gear-review-a-photographers-take-on-the-htc-one-m8-2014/
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
Dreamy eyes!
[One (M8) General] brar.arsh:
Actually this effect is seriously insane.. :D :D :D
[One (M8) General] noideaforusername:
I have a question: How much user space you have in your M8? Cause I saw a post earlier of someone pointing out the 16GB model have only 9.35GB available user space. The LG G2 have 1GB more available user space (10.37GB). Even the S5 have less bloat with 10.7GB available user space.
[One (M8) General] Rippley05:
http://bgr.com/2014/03/25/htc-one-m8-review-worst-thing/

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-anal...great-design-disappointing-camera-220451.html

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...okia-Lumia-1520-Sony-Xperia-Z1S_id3626/page/2

It isn't a "terrible" camera. It just finishes dead last among last years offerings. Any way you slice it, that's disappointing. There are a lot of sites that break down picture comparisons as well.
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
I'm not sure I have the 32gb. That doesn't necessarily mean bloat though. I'm not sure how the storage is formatted.
[One (M8) General] jamezr:
But what review about the camera would you rather listen too? A professional blogger who reviews phones? Or professional photographer who takes pictures for a living?
[One (M8) General] jspradling7:
My Verizon is a 32 gb phone with 24.2 gb user space. And then I put a 64 gb SD Card in it. I'm not going to run out of space anytime soon.
[One (M8) General] noideaforusername:
He talked about the system of the LG g2 take more space than the system of the HTC one m8. So I just wanted to state the fact that it is not correct, and actually the opposite.
[One (M8) General] blestsol:
The blogger for me because the photographer knows exactly what to do to make it look nice but me? I want a point and click.

I hate the fact that I may get the next iPhone. I despise apple but they're top notch. Smh
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
the M7/M8 are actually point and click, it will give you a usable photo in any situation wether its too dark, pitch black or fast moving object, but if you want to impressed you will have to work a little for your photo

look there is a lot of FUD going against this camera, mainly because people are burned that HTC didn't really update this camera which is disappointing for sure everyone was waiting for a 6UP camera, a rebalance between the pixel size and count would have worked in HTC's favor but it seems their next sensor is not ready for prime time yet, however: they did give us the duo camera for compensation you can not deny that

I strongly encourage you to check my M7 photo test collection before making any conclusion:

HTC One (M7) UltraPixel samples and tests compilation>>

because if you don't you will be missing out on the only "iPhone" in this Android world :) video highlights and Zoe are worse the asking price on their own
[One (M8) General] jspradling7:
Argh... can't get a full size link to post...
[One (M8) General] blestsol:
Thats a huge thing to say about the camera with confidence lol. Everywhere people are crapping on the camera but I'll check it out, thanks.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
everyone crapping about the camera is ignoring hordes of HTC One M7 buyers with a slightly inferior camera than the M8, surely it didn't collect every smartphone of the year award out there with a "Crap" camera

trust people who used it and not moaners and haters, check my links and let me know

I also suggest you check out this M7 review

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6747/htc-one-review
[One (M8) General] jspradling7:
Nearly all the people I've seen crapping on the camera don't own the phone.
[One (M8) General] Frankie1588:
Exactly! I don't have the M8 yet (Soon), but I owned the M7. I found that the M7 took great pictures. I had absolutely no problem with the camera (aside from the pink tint issue that I had repaired). I will have NO problems with the M8 camera as long as it performs similarly to the M7 camera.
[One (M8) General] Stephen:
Moderator warning,

I have deleted several posts. Remember forum rules. Keep all posts on topic and about this phone only. Also no trolling please.

Many thanks,

Ghost
[One (M8) General] anit77:
Would you get the phone already!!! We need a guide! :silly:

Whats the ETA for Beirut? This week??? :fingers-crossed:
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
8 hdr´s stitched with "PanoStitch" and finished with "Handy Photo"
[One (M8) General] hudsoncouto:
Holy ****!! Thats awesome!
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
black market only...sigh still waiting for HTC MEA to show the love, ETA 10 days
[One (M8) General] zaydaboss:
These upscaled photos look awesome. What actions are being used? Wouldn't mind having it available for photos I do want off the phone
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
you need to download it from here

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51881275&postcount=742
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
I hope this upscale might be available for the phone soon . . .One from today while in the city . . . I think the real test for me with the camera will be when I go see a band live and how the photos turn out in dark venues
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
why if anything it proves how needless it is, a large file size smudged image is needless when we can upscale a 4MP with better per pixel detail to achieve the same or better results....it proves less is more

here is the upscaled collection

M8 16MP upscaled Flickr collection
[One (M8) General] townay:
Question about the M8's camera.

Someone posted that HTC used the OV sensor, specifically ov4688 4m. I checked my M7's and its using the exact same module, the ov4688 4m. My guess is that HTC further tweaked the sensor settings software side to improve the photo qualities.

My question is, what are the chances of M7 getting the same software tweak when it's been upgraded to sense 6? The manual controls too.
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
taken with "camera awesome"
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
the HTC imagechip was updated as well
[One (M8) General] townay:
Hardware or software. Software wise pretty sure HTC can just flash it with their newer firmware through ota
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
Stock camera hdr
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
What I read I think it´s mostly software. So M7 could get the same treatment

Anyone who knows for sure?
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
Fun fact: The duo cam depth sensor on the M8 is the same camera part number as the M7 frt camera. :)
[One (M8) General] townay:
Cool thanks!

Yup, that I know.
[One (M8) General] Jooosty:
Simply beautiful

HTC UltimEight ??
[One (M8) General] references:
People with the purple tint problem, are you taking the pictures with HDR mode?

I managed to get that purple stuff in my pictures only with HDR mode

no problems with auto mode, if you dont count my finger being in the lens :laugh:

i'm gonna try tomorrow to reproduce that purple tint and hope i wont find it on auto/manual on different scenarios
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
this is not purple tint....
[One (M8) General] references:
What is it then? hdr doing tricks? I found the same purple stuff on a picture of swan i took earlier, in the most overexposured part.

edit: if you zoom, you can see its on the roofs, the benches and everywhere..
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
this is what you call fringing i believe but from your photo it seems to be just caused by the lens flare the reflective properties of the lens glass
[One (M8) General] references:
ooh..

But i got the same effect on another picture without lens flare, so i think it makes sense its fringing with hdr mode, ofcourse in this picture lens flare has a part on it as you can find purple fringing everywhere. Thanks for the info! :)
[One (M8) General] soulreaver99:
Just took a few photos so far and the camera overall is pretty good. I wouldn't say fantastic but not as bad as people would fear. Love the form factor and how fast and responsive the phone is. Button placement is somewhat awkward but I got used to it pretty quick. As some of you have said, that area where the HTC logo is at is a waste of space.

Here are the first photos I have taken with this phone:

HTC One M8 Camera Test - Lily

2014-04-12 17.56.37

2014-04-12 17.57.00

2014-04-12 23.44.30

And here are some outdoor pictures:

2014-04-13 12.03.42

Playing with UFocus

2014-04-13 12.19.30

2014-04-13 12.03.29

The HTC One M8 has a hard time with white and yellow in outdoor lighting. This yellow is too overexposed

2014-04-13 12.35.54

Again struggling with brighter colors outdoors

2014-04-13 13.56.14

Where did they sky go?!

2014-04-13 13.52.40

The M8 takes great shots indoors and does with with close up and macro shots. However, photos outdoors I get mixed results. A lot of the times, whites, yellows and other bright colors get too overexposed. Someone suggested to me to try HDR in these types of situations so I'll give that a shot later on.

You can view all the photos I have taken with the MTC One M8 here: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjWWKCTP
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
can this thing even take an ugly photo? :)

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HTC admits over exposing and recommend dropping exposure a notch if you dislike it, nice set should be added to OP [MENTION=1011139]billybobjones[/MENTION]
[One (M8) General] soulreaver99:
I'll try that along with shooting in HDR as someone else suggested in another forum. Thanks!
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
for HDR lock your focus by holding into a brighter target, pan your shot and shoot for best result, if you focus on dark areas it will over expose as well

for auto mode you can reduce over exposure by 0.5 notches

but just wait till you try manual mode ;)

your photos are great and you know how to take a good shot, you just need to learn the ultrapixel basics :)
[One (M8) General] Chris_c81:
Few more from London this afternoon

Messing with filters etc.
[One (M8) General] tonypb:
the picture quietly is enough good...

i hope its been better in next update...
[One (M8) General] assasin34:
I have a question..why the pictures over here looks like much more better than technology websites.???

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[One (M8) General] boofhead:
downloaded this rar file and cant open the unrared file. atn file. what is that. is this a program or instructions.
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
Because we are obviously better photographers. :good:
[One (M8) General] soulreaver99:
Because some journalist (being one myself) can't take photos for sh!t let alone write a proper review on a product :p
[One (M8) General] neudof:
Heavy sunlight in background, stock settings
[One (M8) General] RetroDude:
Its a photoshop action file.
[One (M8) General] sbiricuda:
am I the only one who took crap pics?

https://copy.com/VpznId1EPOrI (this was decent)

https://copy.com/lamZUpF9qtbq (this is awful)

https://copy.com/3ugElzn7v2yK (this is meh)

https://copy.com/oJHeAV7jTd10 (interior.. light conditions were average)

I find it hard to manage the balance.

If you look at the sky it is totally white. It was not a sunny day, I must confess, but it was not that milky either..

focusing in the sky let me have a bluer sky, but at the cost of underexposing the monuments. I'm a little confused about how to balance all this.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Just reduce exposure then from the image adjustments menu -0.5
[One (M8) General] soulreaver99:
Some night shot comparisons between the Xperia Z2 and the HTC One M8. Well, these wouldn't be fair comparisons because they were taken 11 days apart and it was a full moon tonight. Also I didn't stand exactly where took these photos either but you can get a general idea.

2014-04-14 21.04.42

HTC One M8

2014-04-03 20.00.30

Xperia Z2

2014-04-14 21.05.14

HTC One M8

2014-04-03 20.02.56

Xperia Z2

2014-04-14 21.25.37

HTC One M8

2014-04-03 21.02.33

Xperia Z2

For more photos on the HTC One M8: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjWWKCTP

For more photos on the Xperia Z2: https://flic.kr/s/aHsjVXogrK
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Good morning!

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
[MENTION=741427]soulreaver99[/MENTION] they look a lot similar downscaled, the z2 has better dynamic range evident in the lens flares, I'll examine them full scale when I get to my pc but thanks for these, the z2 seems to be the only capable Android camera after the M8 and might be the best one

Can you report about its shutter and focus speed? Is it as reliable as the M8?
[One (M8) General] soulreaver99:
I'm not on a computer now but all the exif data should be on the Flickr links.
[One (M8) General] stuart0001:
I think Hamdir is asking how was the speed and reliability of actually taking the shot. Something the M8 excels at.
[One (M8) General] soulreaver99:
Although it isn't as fast as the HTC One in terms of taking shots, it's one of the best cameras I have used. It's up there with the iPhone 5S and Nokia 1020.
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Low light shot, I think it was with my custom config? I drop the sharpness and exposure by .5 usually.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
you can do a lot to spice things up from the gallery custom effects

last weekend i took five photos of people which we are all badly backlit (sunny day but under tent) so i intentionally allow them to under expose so that the sky wouldn't burn

i later fixed them all with the gallery, you will be amazed to know how much it collects in shaded pixels
[One (M8) General] andrewnelson:
I have the phone actually. Not just making assumptions and the camera isn't bad. The software is awesome.
[One (M8) General] smudgelab:
Had to keep running in and out of the room as this damn thing was going mental!

All on auto (as you probably guessed!) **Apologies for the dusty car, my wife has been poorly :) **
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
My 3rd day with this beast and have to say this camera has the best auto mode I have ever used !

Am a photographer and I can say those 4mp with much much more detail per pixel is freaking great...

And ahhh btw all of those pix are zoomed in ! I can see a really high quality digital zoom processing ! Am happy :)
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Auto mode again. I wanted to have photos of those dark clouds that look evil ?
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
thanks guys!

looks like HTC already has a good up-scaling algorithm in there, why didn't they provide an optional for the full photos is beyond me :laugh:
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
The manual controls is another world ! Much more room for even better pix ! I can't believe the quality out of this beast ! The color range is unbelievable ! :eek:
[One (M8) General] mushages:
I can see nice pictures from Qatar there!!
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Haha yes I live in Qatar, and u ?
[One (M8) General] jonas2295:
new samples :D went to an island :P no effects but some are manual mode with close focus and auto mode, click for full res

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[One (M8) General] john291:
These pictures got alot off noise in the sky:(

I thought they would be better dan my old htc m7,i hope so :fingers-crossed:
[One (M8) General] mushages:
Oman, did you guys have 32gb middle east versions there?
[One (M8) General] slind:
Very nice shots!
[One (M8) General] Chris_c81:
To counter all the bad press the M8 has got for its camera, we should all go out of our way to use Flickr and upload as many good looking M8 shots as we can!
[One (M8) General] jonas2295:
this is not my shot but found it one flickr :eek: its awesome

HTC one m8 macro by theangrygooner, on Flickr
[One (M8) General] hudsoncouto:
Yeah, no. Brand loyalty only goes so far. Unpaid promotion is on a whole new level. HTC really needs to step up its marketing (I mean, this whole thing with Gary Oldman and Robert Downey Jr, seriously, HTC?). It can very well build the ultimate device, like it did with the M7, but that doesn't translate to sales unless they market it well enough. HTC knew it would take some heat by sticking to the same 4UP as last year, they should at least have done a heavy marketing campaing around the camera.

Anyway, you guys do what you want. But as for me, as much as I love my M7 and am drooling all over the M8, I'm not helping a company to promote their own product.
[One (M8) General] charismatickiller:
That's pretty damn good! Shame I can't manage to recreate anything near that quality.
[One (M8) General] Chris_c81:
It has nothing to do with brand loyalty. This is my first HTC device in nearly 20 years of owning mobile devices. I've no loyalty to any one brand, in fact my last three mobile phones have come from three different manufacturers!

But I can forgive HTC's shortcomings in the promotion, marketing and publicity department if helping to raise awareness that the camera is not as bad as made out brings HTC a few more sales, I'm all for it.

Why?

Because I don't believe it's in the consumers interest for HTC to go under. I'd sooner have more choice then be limited to a Samsung or Apple device.
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Two night shots taken on way home tonight! Must admit nothing comes close then this camera when it comes to low light . . .

What I don't really like is the noise picked up in the sky ? It happens in day shots with clear blue sky. . .

Is that just the 4mp limits or any tips to reduce the noise?
[One (M8) General] habylab:
That fourth photo needs to be saved for their 18ths!
[One (M8) General] msavic6:
What the heck is it?
[One (M8) General] smudgelab:
A big, big bee! As it eventually got itself out of the window, a sodding wasp took it's place! **shudders**.
[One (M8) General] Pr20:
A big bee????? WTF !!!!! Has got to be a photoshop.
[One (M8) General] makatram:
I think it's a model car

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I also think it's awesome
[One (M8) General] ronniemayo:
Looks like a small model car...with a bee on it.
[One (M8) General] chobits:
is that a mutant bee?

Scary looking bee for sure, at first i thought it's a bird ... seriously

I know it's a model car, but if you can see the detail of the interior, it's pretty safe to assume that it's not the smallest one
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
two from today (04:00am) :D

first: auto mode

second: manual ISO1600 0,8sec
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Now consider this: phonearena scores this camera very low on indoor and low light, funny isn't it
[One (M8) General] msavic6:
How did you have the balls to get near that thing? I would have been out the door the moment I had seen that thing.
[One (M8) General] arses:
They say what they've been paid for.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

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[One (M8) General] arses:
Leaked photo of Samsung wearable gadget

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

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[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
I've decided. Now you decide.

http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...phones-samsung-s5-or-htc-one-m8-camera-fight/

M8 vs S5. Over 50 shots to study. Highlighting the best from each.

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And the big one. M8 vs Nokia Lumia 1020 and its 41mp camera.

https://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/04/09/fight-htc-one-m8-vs-nokia-lumia-1020/
[One (M8) General] john291:
What is the problem with the noise in the sky on the m8?:(
[One (M8) General] chobits:
maybe it because of the resizing effect to the forum?

bright daylight shouldn't create noise at all unless somehow the iso is high by accident
[One (M8) General] RetroDude:
Tapatalk compression wont exactly help with noise surely?
[One (M8) General] bobdude5:
My s5

HDR

No flash low light (M8)

No flash low light (Galaxy S5)
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
The S5 looks just weird in the dark? I've seen this in other shots, somehow yellow-ish. Probably just software

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] Stephen:
Moderator Warning,

Again can we keep posts on topic please? This forum is about the HTC One M8 only.

Many thanks,

Ghost
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Any tips of the amount of noise in sky shoots ? Picked a lot up on a clear day and last night . .

Just wondering if it's the MP limits or something I can fix
[One (M8) General] john291:
I like this to know to;)
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Looking at your very great collection on M8 shots compared to S5 makes me wonder if HTC are playing us . . They really put a 13mp camera in the M8 didn't they haha . .

Seriously though your landscapes from M8 collection ! How are you shooting as my clear skies have came out noisey the last time I took some outdoor picks?? Any tips?
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Check where the sun is. Crucial. If the landscape is background only, tap to focus on foreground subject. If really bright sky, exposure minus 0.5 or minus 1. HDR another option. Fix AE/AF on bright sky, then take with HDR. To be honest, not that difficult. If taking into sun, sky will blow out, so again drop exposure minus 1.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
even Gavin's iPhone 5s samples show a heavy amount of smudging

HTC didn't play you, you people are simply confused, it's not MP that dictate the quality of image, it's the quality of the pixel first and foremost and here's where the 2.0um (2x2) pixel come into play

i already showed you how quality upscaling the M8 photos 200% to 16MP can result in almost the same smudge 1:1 quality from the competitors 8MP and 16MP sensors

alternatively i tried upscaling an iPhone 5s 8MP sample with the same filter and it turned into an oil painting

conclusion pixel for pixel the M8 is sgnificantly superior than it's competitors, all of them, we just don't have enough of them! and HTC chose to over expose a little by default in order to show off the low light power but it's all in your control to drop it, even in the auto/duo mode you can drop exposure for good

this is important:

your family, loved ones, friends and pets, will be captured best with the ultrapixel super fast HTC camera

as for the noise tip: USE THE LANDSCAPE mode for landscape, it slows down the shutter and insure infinite focus

you guys want less noise? especially in still images? easy go to manual mode and slow down the shutter, reduce ISO as far as you can

and by the way using my Photoshop filter also kills that noise

for me anything that is not a moving target will be shot with manual mode, scenic photography that is
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Thanks again :) was only a little joke bout the 13mp thing haha . I know HTC didn't play us just amazing how the 4mp camera can do just as good as Samsung's 16mp . . .

Thanks you the help guys . Very much appreciated :)
[One (M8) General] sallam5010:
Absolutely in love with the amazing manual controls and how fast and snappy is this camera :D horrible lool