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[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Because phone and GSM arena are idiots they dont know how to test the camera settings or low light or speed, there is a lot more to phone photography than a stupid still life landscape shot

Many other websites are testing and comparing these cameras properly in fact anandtech even has camera speed tests

Look it's ridiculous for a reviewer to test these cameras by simply taking the camera and shooting blindly, the camera app for the m8 is a phd level of in-depth and versatile yet intuitive camera controls (from burst to zoe to manual mode to smart flash), so when you neglect all that and speed: we have a problem

Like the M7 and One X before, HTC's flagship remains the fastest phone camera ever made in both shutter / focus at ANY time

What good would all the MPs in the world do for you if half your shots are out of focus or motion blurred or too dark or washed with ugly flash

Alas you people the only thing left for me to do is to bang my head to a rough wall...

Example from our friend Gavin reporting on the s5 camera, good in daylight but everything else?...

Www.gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/04/12/samsung-galaxy-s5-first-impressions/

That tiny pixel oil painting smudge...again
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Difference from M7 is Camera and screen brightness i would say. The screen brightness is a bit lower and cant be turned up that much. Camera is much much better. Is there different type of displays, can this be confirmed?
[One (M8) General] makatram:
I wish this thread was just pictures taken with M8.
[One (M8) General] Andrew725:
This comparison is about as terrible an effort that any "professional" journalistic website can give.

No explanation of the test scenarios, camera settings, etc.

No technical data, the writers don't state their credentials

Assuming just some random bro grabbing a handful of phones taking some photos in auto mode, assuming that because he's standing in the same goddammn spot and holding the different phones in the same goddamn angle that would provide an accurate comparison.

No explanation why the Lumia 1020 isn't in the comparison, either, which suggests to me that these guys have an agenda. But maybe I'm being a bit paranoid. But still, you have to ask yourself -- why these particular phones? My conclusion is those were the only phones they had sitting in the elfin' office at the time they did this dumb article.

Anyway, this clearly isn't Anandtech level journalism. It's fluff, it's eschewed and its entirely subjective. That they would go so far as to rate the phones on a scale of 1-10 based on what they wrote in the article is a joke.

It's been stated many times in this thread -- the camera controls are there for a reason. Use them to their full potential, then come back and make a comparison. As is this article is a sad excuse for journalism.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
The low light and indoor score alone would have offset the entire average score, hilarious to score the king of low light with this ****

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Agree but we are sadly force to respond and repeat ourselves at the bashing attempts...

Look at gavins experience, he is so unbiased about the phone like metal or plastic he doesn't care, he let go of his m7 as he hated the camera results back then, got note 3 and used it for a while then he was pleasantly surprised and happy with the m8, now comparing with his s5 he immediately notices the lack of per pixel detail...4mp giving 16mp a run for its money should at least open your eyes, but alas
[One (M8) General] assasin34:
is there any clinical article about camera comparison you can suggest ???
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
sorry if this has been posted, been out of the loop but here is great article on m8 camera quality.

http://www.techradar.com/news/phone.../the-htc-one-m8-camera-isn-t-that-bad-1240899

another

http://bgr.com/2014/04/11/htc-one-m8-camera-tips-tricks-photos/
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Thed first one is manual mode try out. I suck at taking pictures. Rest is point n shoot auto mode
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Awesomeness here is the original phone arena article

http://www.phonearena.com/news/How-to-take-better-photos-and-videos-with-your-HTC-One-M8_id55028

Someone been listening ;)
[One (M8) General] jonas2295:
a few new samples! mainly auto mode, hdr and maual mode, no effects applied :D

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and my fav ones :D

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[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Oslo. Indoor/outdoor n a Grey sky

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
M8 with a Sony QX10 Companion. Taken in bad lightening from row 7, zoom aprox x7 and by a free hand (hold over my head :)

I'm very satisfied with my combination of Speed (M8) and Zoom (QX10).
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
I've been using the Samsung S5 today. Got home and out of 100s of photos most were poor quality. Then I look at the M8 shots and see how amazing they are.
[One (M8) General] Xperia-Ray:
WOW, even tho you don't have XXXMP like others, but your images look more Alive, in my opinion I prefer 3~4MP pic that look more Real/Alive with great colors then dull 16MP pic.
[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
Elsie... my beautiful Elsie Mo.
[One (M8) General] stuart0001:
Took phone out of pocket and took the photo within a couple of seconds with no pre focussing etc. There'd have been virtually no chance of getting my running toddler in focus so quick with my N5.

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This one has ufocus applied.
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
And there's your real world comparison people. It's obviously not always about the mega pixels apparently.. [emoji328]
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Incredible pics by [MENTION=2262596]jonas2295[/MENTION] and don, can't wait for my unit anymore
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
The problem is that im going there next week and i wont go again until december /:

But well ill Take the risk :p
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
Added a few more photos today..

The wife training an Arab

IMAG0323 by UgXvibe, on Flickr

Another sunset

IMAG0301 by UgXvibe, on Flickr
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Engadget s5 review, actually I meant m8 review ;)

Check the camera section (both cameras are analyzed in depth)

http://www.engadget.com/2014/04/11/samsung-galaxy-s5-review/
[One (M8) General] BookOfRick:
uFocus shot:

Macro:
[One (M8) General] Hawkysoft:
At the zoo trough the glass
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
On my way to the moon. (Put the phone up to my telescope.
[One (M8) General] townay:
Sorry for digging up an old post.

My M7 is using ov ov4688 4m too

Same sensor as M8. Looks like HTC tweaked the sensor
[One (M8) General] killerapl:
My bored dog begging for a walk!
[One (M8) General] shaneel1491:
Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you have to put both camera sensors in the telescope viewfinder, or did you only put the main camera in?
[One (M8) General] AndroidInsanity:
Awesome
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
The guys in the s5 forum aren't happy with their camera http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2714225 we may only have a 4up camera but we are happy with it.... They are complaining about low light shot, inability to focus, blur
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Indoor, Grey sky, no extra light source. Target in heavy movement and some dual cam effects on the top...

Original

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
In a tribute to all the boken stuff out there, let's bring some color...

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
I had a fault with my M8 but store didn't have any stock to exchange so I took the S5 instead. There are a few things I like about the S5 (well only 3 out of an enormous spec sheet) but there was nothing I disliked about the M8. I've had 3 days with the S5 camera and I feel ill after looking at the photos. Next week I'm going back to the store again and getting the M8. I want quality photos, pets in focus and creativity. And non smudged pixels.
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Is it really that bad
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Depends on what features you prefer, so not dreadful. But versus the competition..... and the M8... I personally think the M8 excels.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
HTC One M8 Camera per pixel analysis

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they should march at PhoneArena / GSMarena

to quote the first:
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
It warns you that the duo camera is blocked but it goes away and then you click. :)
[One (M8) General] HelloBoy26:
Today
[One (M8) General] jpbadonk:
Landscape shot from yesterday with 360 pano mode...all settings stock.
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Is that a lead? You take your cat for walks? Lol
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
here is my Pano...
[One (M8) General] chobits:
How to upscale it to 16mp?

Sorry, i don't get it

Thanks
[One (M8) General] HelloBoy26:
[MENTION=3798739]StickyGeko[/MENTION], yes. This ist my Catdog.
[One (M8) General] references:
I'm still learning how to use the shutter speed and iso in manual mode..

Had some fun with campfire after midnight:

iso-400 1/100

iso-400 1/800

i love it how fast this camera is in the dark, i also took slow motion video of the fire and it was amazing..
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
They are nuts amazing.
[One (M8) General] arses:
OMG the colors are better than my sight.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

☆★♡♥king of touch response♥♡★☆
[One (M8) General] md1008:
I was surprised that this camera. Although I have taken great pics they don't always come out good. Zooming in on something leaves something to be desired. I installed GPE and the camera isn't nearly as good as it was with sense.

But hey I can take excellent selfies
[One (M8) General] murrshot:
http://xdaforums.com/images/smilies/good.gif

Sweet! Checked out your blog and didn't realize the M8 had IR and a tv app. Nice surprise, for me anyways!:good:
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Late-night snack...

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] jonny68:
What are the best settings to take a photo in the dark, tried night mode and normal mode to get a photo of me and a friend on the roof terrace of a bar where it was dark and the photo is just black you can barely see us, very disappointed I was hoping night mode would have worked.
[One (M8) General] habylab:
Articles like this one keep making the choice hard!

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/0...ra-blows-the-htc-one-camera-out-of-the-water/
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Craps bs review....he concentrates on zooming and cropping
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
night photography with htc one m8 :D

language is german, but still interesting

http://youtu.be/ma-ptlHsvH8
[One (M8) General] mwatson:
These stills are looking good, but what about video? I have the M7 and there seems to be no dropped frames, it's very smooth. Not the same for my M8 though, it's quite choppy regardless of the lack of IOS. Anyone else getting less than impressive video capture?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
#HTCOneM8 16MP upscale-smudge-blackcrush Photoshop filter (attached)
[One (M8) General] chobits:
I like the bottom one

It looks natural

Am I correct?
[One (M8) General] Darkseth:
Wait wait... Just to understand that: One of the pictures is a HTC One m8 picture with 4 MP (which you upscaled to 16 MP), while the other one is a native 16 MP shot (edited, or not?) from the Galaxy S4?
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

testing Photoshop action > upscaled the attached pic > https://www.dropbox.com/s/8k2shn3jaa2evl6/IMAG0058_high.jpg
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
Hi,

here is more photoshop magic > median script > results in full resolution > https://www.dropbox.com/sh/mzm47unstkotdnf/6Yz69-tkgC

regards

starbase64
[One (M8) General] references:
i've read that the night mode is useless, the automode is intelligent enough so you dont need to use night mode. The best way to get photos in the dark, or in the day even is to use manual mode, if you know what you are doing. I really recommend to learn how to use the manual mode, you are getting full control of the camera.
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Upscaled: [MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

My guess, 13820816685_f84a1a2994_o.jpg is Samsung and 13834492505_2f98b0e9f6_o.jpg is the M8?

Right?
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
Was on a nice trip with my brand new M8 and, of course, gave the Cam a good testrun.

So far I am VERY pleased with the quality and especially the low light performance and overall speed. Simply amazing - It captures detailed pictures even with fast moving objects.

So far, I am really impressed. Hope you guys like my shots :)
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
I see that 3 pictures there(Statues, water display and outside building shot with statue in middle) all have some blur on the left side of the picture but not really that much on the right. Is it a focus problem or...? Sure if you're going to do some trimming of the unecessary in the picture then you'll get rid of those blurry effects on the left, but it's still a bit obvious. Is it a camera related issue:confused:
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
Well yeah noticed that, too. But I took like 150 Shots that day and only a few got that slight blur on the left side. Its more like because of the focal point and not a sensor / lense issue.
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
What about on the phone itself, do you pick up the blur when you're viewing pictures? If it's not really noticeable on the phone then it should be fine I guess. I don't really move/view pictures to/on the computer or TV. Those pictures that I want to put away in a box and "cherish" are the type of pictures that you can take with a normal camera so it's not a biggie.

Thanks though.
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
No u wont notice it on the phone unless you really zoom in to look for it on purpose I guess.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
one is native 16MP from SGS5, unedited (this is actually the best one i found from [MENTION=241112]gavinfabl[/MENTION] due to all the sun)

If the light just a little less the quality starts degrading check here

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yup

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when your focus is away from the left it can have some blur has to do with the wide lens, if you focus nearer to the left side it's gone

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works great here :good:
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
fails here because your image is backlit and i am using black crush to immitate Samsung's results, just disable the levels part of the filer if the image mediums are too dark, you can disable the levels by unticking the checkbox to the left

check attached
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
cool, thanks
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
filter updated :)

improved levels slightly for less extreme darkness

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51881275&postcount=742

but still you need to disable levels for the overcast shots which fail, the new tweak just not longer ruins it anymore
[One (M8) General] Chris_c81:
What I'm finding about the camera is it's simplicity and speed set it apart from the others. In a generation where nobody is really too interested in having hard copy photo albums gathering dust, the M8 is more then adequate at producing photographs at acceptable levels for modern digital purposes and importantly at a speed that fits in with the pace of modern life.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I just tried the filter on a selection from our flickr galleries in the OP

holy wow :eek:

i will upload them soon
[One (M8) General] BerndM14:
I care about it :p but like I said in my post above if I want pictures like that I'd rather use a normal photo that can take better pictures than any phone on the market now. For those photos that I keep on my phone, it just needs to look good on the phone. I DO NOT share pictures of family on any social media, so what it 'might' look like to the rest doesn't concern me in the least.
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Comparison between M8 and S5.

Booth pictures is taken in default auto, from the same distance, zoomed in and taken by the same, free hand :)

I'll say that there is quite a difference. Looks wrong somehow, have to check the S5?

What do you think?

Some info:

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[One (M8) General] arses:
The m8 shot has more real colors.

S5 is compeletely blury.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

☆★♡♥king of touch response♥♡★☆

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Take some shots with front camera,please.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

☆★♡♥king of touch response♥♡★☆
[One (M8) General] Chris_c81:
You are somewhat of a minority though you have to admit surely? You do however, have the common sense approach though in using a dedicated camera for images that matter more for printing etc.
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Fair is fair:

This is M8 4MP vs S5 16MP, zoomed to the same size, with and without stabilizer on.

Quite a difference, but still I think that the tiny 4MP clearly is the better one.

The biggest difference should be how good I was at being a steady hand at the moment of the shot.

I took one picture with the M8 and a totally of seven with the S5 to find a one that I thought looked good.

If you look at the wooden list you can se the watercoloring of the S5
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
no one will listen my friend, shocking the stabilizer is so bad but apparently they need it badly to nail focus

haha what a ****ing mess :laugh:

its funny when i foresaw all that way before the s5 reviews appeard

but alas lets listen to Phonearena "Oh boy! that camera"
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
two night shot :D

second with 100% zoom !!!! Camera zoom, not photoshop!!!!
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/phones/mobile-phones/samsung-galaxy-s5-1226990/review/5#articleContent

"But if it sounds like I'm railing against the camera in the Samsung Galaxy S5, then apologies – I'm certainly not. It's a competent and powerful sensor, but one that needs more effort to unlock the stunning pictures than the rivals."

"The camera in the Galaxy S5 is as competent as it is powerful – it's nowhere near as good as the Nokia Lumia Pureview sensor, but then again, it's more adept than the HTC One M8 if you're willing to put the time in.

However, the One M8 is the better option for day to day point and shooting – the sharpness is actually comparable as too many S5 pictures didn't quite come out as pleasant as I thought they had when viewing on the screen."
[One (M8) General] duckstardeluxe:
I was one of those who too quickly managed to conclude that the M8 camera is worse compared to my earlier LG G2.

I must say that after more than 500 pictures taken, i need to reconsider.

I see my self capturing more 'moments' than ever before. The focus and point-to-shoot time is the lowest I have ever seen on a smartphone. This camera may have more noise and less zoomability than the competitors, but the fact is, that I find it more useful than I first thought.
[One (M8) General] duckstardeluxe:
More:
[One (M8) General] altimax98:
Those are all very passable as a Camera Phone (we all need to remember this) and I am downright impressed. As a father of an almost 2 year old I know how important those "Moments" are and how difficult they are to capture (movement, lighting is usually bad...)

Waiting for the Camera to focus.. Aint nobody got time for that
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
:D
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] [MENTION=456666]starbase64[/MENTION]

I added a small action to the already nice 16MP emulation action to add that typical samsung sharpness filter. It needs to be executed afterwards manually. Plus this filter effect can be EASILY achived on any smartphone software, dunno why things like those arent actually used by HTC or other manufacturers.

Actually it looks quite cool on the M8 photos, thanks to the high per pixel detail information.

I now usually use both actions and then reduce the image to the original file size since it enhances the image noticably.

EDIT: Added a small example:

Stock is - well - stock...

Filtered has the 16MP Filter on it + Detail Enhancement, which is used on almost every Galaxy Device since the S2.
[One (M8) General] Sashtheflash:
I did a short HDR try

Gesendet von meinem HTC One_M8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
waw why are those lights so big? is it a miniature model?

and the zoom, very interesting i didn't know we have quality digital processing for the zoom, i will surely be testing it more
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
I have the same experience. My G2 (I still have it) is just horrible when trying to take a snap of my kids, and my Wife used to laugh at the watercolor it showed when we took a few pics att Hallowen this year, it was impossible to se if it was my son or the neighbor when zoomed in :)

The G2 takes great pics in daylight but is absolutely horrible indoor, before, at least, my G2 has a focus the kids is already somewhere else, the M8 just snap, snap, snap, why not take two...
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
ISO1600 and 4sec exposure time makes the corona bigger
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
well your samples are no good attached, you need to upload them to compare mate

I just tried haha, awesomeness !!!!!!!

HTC should calls us now!
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
Stock:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxmqXfxD2ZCDTmtZNXptYWdMWFE/edit?usp=sharing

Filtered:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BxmqXfxD2ZCDZDlMR3U1QzJWcTg/edit?usp=sharing
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
i will attach your version now to my original post with credits ofcourse :victory:
[One (M8) General] Try4Ce:
:highfive:
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
One of my cook's at work. The blur function is by far my favorite.
[One (M8) General] Rippley05:
Wasn't accusing you, the other person who called me a whining infant. Here is a post I made listing features.

"Stock comparison. I have RGB LED, bigger screen with whiter whites in my comparison, while keeping the phone the right size, better camera (by far in my comparison). I can theme everything from the color of the folder, unlock and sleep animation, fonts, icons, nav bar, messaging app and more right out of the box. I can also theme the keyboard, which has a top row for numbers and emoticons. Assign LED notification colors, draw on my screenshots (m8 may or may not have that). G2 charges in no time, has excellent battery (m8 should have at least the same battery life) and, this may be my opinion..but more functional widgets with the richnote, tasks and notebook apps. Also, the q-slide apps. Having a few apps like the calculator hover over everything else in a tidy little corner has come in handy. The quick reply to a text message window, little things like that are throughout this phone."

You can't say I'm being subjective, I listed facts. Subjective is "stupid button placement, lag". HTC has as much bloat as anyone, pick up the Verizon model. I care less about the Flex being anti-dev, the G2 has plenty of stuff going on (at least it did)

I played for more than a few moments, it was probably an hour and a half at least. That's is plenty of time. You know what was right beside it? The G2, the M7 and the Iphone 5s/5c. It was pretty simple to fire pictures around the store, out the window, of the red walls (color comparison). It's not hard to point a camera and shoot...what else did I need to do? If I paid for it and owned it a week or so, would the pictures get more detailed when I zoomed in? Would it stop over exposing? Would the noise stop showing up?