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[One (M8) General] Shan89:
4.4.4 update ruined our flash shots, they're Crystal clear on below versions, no known fix for that, perhaps 5.1 will fix it. Only known solution to me is manual mode with iso 400-200, the rest on auto.
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Try a manual shot and then auto and show us the results
[One (M8) General] krele90:
Shelby Mustang GT 500

Processed with Aviary.

Link to Flickr

https://flic.kr/p/v7sxkW
[One (M8) General] thanito:
Well, I took a quick snap of sth random and I took screenshots in image review and in gallery, I attach the two screenshots and the original photo.

They all look like crap but the difference in sharpness and contrast is Huge!

Can you spot the difference?
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
I look at all 3 images and a lot of the detail/ info was missing about the picture file so no idea?

Can you give us some more details about the problem?
[One (M8) General] djbutter:
Some images I've taken over the past few months (edited in-camera with PSX/PS Touch, VSCOCam):
[One (M8) General] thanito:
So as to clarify:

The first one is the actual photo. You can clearly see all the loss of detail, sharpness, contrast.

The second one is a screenshot taken from image review right after taking the photo. You can see that there is plenty of detail compared to the actual foto which lacks of same.

The third is a screenshot from the image after opening through gallery, same loss of detail after the image being saved .

As you can clearly see, after the image gets saved in the device it loses a huge amount of detail and that is the problem.

Additionally, during switch from image review to gallery view of the photo, there is some lag and you can instantly see the downgrade in quality happening in front of your eyes, really weird stuff.
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
You missed my point, when you look at the 'details' of the file it shows aperture and exposure etc. Your file is missing all that data.

Just out of curiosity are you saving photos on a memory card?
[One (M8) General] ultimatepichu:
do you still remember your settings and edits that you made in PSX/VSCOCam? These are some awesome shots.
[One (M8) General] thanito:
I know mate, but thats why I said that they are screenshots, hence no data in file properties.

Yep,the photos are being saved in the memory card, I tried to switch to internal memory but no change.
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Can you upload the original photo?
[One (M8) General] thanito:
I did, the first one was the original, anyhow, I attach another one linked through dropbox cause I think that when posting through tapatalk it loses the exif data

https://www.dropbox.com/s/iwvxbvgo6dvf8c8/IMAG4602.jpg?dl=0
[One (M8) General] djbutter:
Apologies, I don't!
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Edited in snapseed.

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Very odd, have you uninstalled the update and tried it with the original stock software?
[One (M8) General] thanito:
Yep, this happens even after factory reset where no update is applied in camera.apk
[One (M8) General] riginal:
a day at the park
[One (M8) General] zortegas:
Having sulfide baths in this building.
[One (M8) General] zortegas:
Stormy clouds
[One (M8) General] iDpC1:
Great photo
[One (M8) General] zortegas:
Thanks.
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Im out of suggestions beyond wiping the phone going into the bootloader and wiping the cache and then trying again.
[One (M8) General] caiejay:
Switzerland
[One (M8) General] Jbb3393:
Full Auto and HDR. I'm fully happy with both.
[One (M8) General] Ivanovic:
Halkidiki, Greece
[One (M8) General] crazykas:
Cam Mod

Some are with Jishnu's Camera Mod + Lr edit
[One (M8) General] caretaker01:
Does his mods work on lollipop? And what is the last version that suports M8.
[One (M8) General] caiejay:
Germany
[One (M8) General] trang_hong9:
Hi all! I'm running 4.4.4 rom and lollipop rom since the 1st day I have my G8. And my pictures are very blurry! I want to go back to earlier firmware to have better quality pictures! Please tell me which firmware have the best cam pictures? Thank you very much!
[One (M8) General] Ivanovic:
Long exposure with the M8 :)

Στάλθηκε από το HTC One_M8 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] anbinhv:
What is your rom?
[One (M8) General] Basil3:
Have you checked your lens? Very common problem on the M8, but easily fixed.
[One (M8) General] Ivanovic:
Running stock 4.10.401.1

Στάλθηκε από το HTC One_M8 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] caiejay:
Austria
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
From my m8 gpe... Just some small snap seed touch up
[One (M8) General] Ivanovic:
Summer in Greece

Στάλθηκε από το HTC One_M8 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] Hai96:
Soccergolf, Germany

Gesendet von meinem HTC One M8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] underboy2008:
Maracujá Flower, Portugal. Inside photo.
[One (M8) General] lofty5:
indeed the camera on the m8 is garbage.
[One (M8) General] DanielSanchez:
Not really. Captures nice colors. Check my post.
[One (M8) General] gustav30:
Some HDRs from this weekend in Maine.
[One (M8) General] lofty5:
The colours are fine for the most part its the level of detail the camera captures and other issues. the other day i was trying to take a close up picture of something for a friend as i was trying to explain something to him. i took about 20 shots every single one of them were dull no light and all were blurry it was a case of picking a pic which wasn't as blurry as the others. The auto focus sucks no image stabilisation also sucks and close ups really suck. Also the mega pixel problem is a huge issue when your viewing on a pc with a big screen and try to zoom in it looks like crap. Im not dissing the phone i own it but the camera is the suckiest part that and the fact i cant seem to disable to stupid vibration at the beginning and ending of a call.

Alot of people say the options for editing your pics are great and you need to position correctly to take a half decent shot. This is a load of faff. I want a camera that can take pics that aren't half bad at the drop of a hat. the m8 fails at that. Despite this i still love the phone.

But stand by what i originally said the camera does suck. its still a great phone though, second favorite next to the arc S.
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
These were taking with the GPE or sense version?
[One (M8) General] gustav30:
These were all done on Sense version. Used the M8 HDR trick. Zoom in and point and lock exposure and focus at brightest object(sun). Zoom out - take photos.
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
You are of course entitled to your opinion ... But its wrong !
[One (M8) General] th3:
It's a good enough cam for most IMHO.

Sent from HTC One M8
[One (M8) General] lofty5:
no its not.
[One (M8) General] :
For the casual photographer, it's good enough and it can surprise you by performing well sometimes. But if you're seriously interested in taking high quality pictures every time, yeah, it's not upto par.
[One (M8) General] starfq:
nice pics!
[One (M8) General] boytoy:
Manial settings , unedited.
[One (M8) General] underboy2008:
Portuguese spider
[One (M8) General] underboy2008:
Portuguese spider 2
[One (M8) General] Faouzi47:
The focus is kinda messed up ..
[One (M8) General] scifan:
Myrtle falls and Mt. Rainier...
[One (M8) General] Jbb3393:
[emoji1] nice! Here's one of my Rainier photos.
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Great stuff what camera app did you use to get these images?
[One (M8) General] Megan Rutix:
All time pictures are not poor, but some time capture come hazy and focus are not done perfect time.
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Google camera. No edit
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
Nice the gpe camera is not that bad is it lol
[One (M8) General] bigbear6708:
Yes.. Gpe cam, edited this one through snap seed
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
You brought hope back to my eyes lol, im backing up my phone had it converted to dev but going gpe now so i can stalk android 6.0.
[One (M8) General] Hai96:
Shot with sense cam

Gesendet von meinem HTC One M8 mit Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] djstammo:
Original, HTC Camera
[One (M8) General] jamiee6610:
Oh really? What manual shots?
[One (M8) General] djstammo:
Most of a time I use auto setup, just in rear cases (specially in some dark areas or dark clouds day use some manual setup (ISO and exposure).
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
Spidey, auto and cropped about 1/3 of frame
[One (M8) General] underboy2008:
Porto City by night. Stock rom with night camera mode.
[One (M8) General] pajoslav83:
With manual settings, and a bit ruined by facebook compression :)
[One (M8) General] toysoldierq:
From Barbados, some manual and auto settings.
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
My spider is getting bigger ! Manual focus about 3 cm away from lens
[One (M8) General] clusterchuck:
Feral Kitten
[One (M8) General] caiejay:
My cousin's car
[One (M8) General] underboy2008:
Wow
[One (M8) General] Rotten Ross:
What settings or mods are people using? There are some amazing pics here.
[One (M8) General] slym84:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/27840984@N04/shares/WQF9bk
[One (M8) General] imfuzzyyy:
My m8 shot emperador lights + pepsi
[One (M8) General] Tachi91:
It's an old picture from back in March which might've lost some quality since the original is long gone. A late afternoon in La Jolla is when I really appreciated the camera. I'm not a big camera person so I'm easily impressed.
[One (M8) General] djstammo:
The weather was all day cloudy with no sun, sometimes small rain.

First two made with Macro auto settings.

3rd and 4th shooted just with auto settings, no editing.

5th is edited, but sky appeared with a lot of noise straps.

6th is edited with HTC editor to use M8 2nd camera focus and later with other app.

1.

[IMG="Macro stone"]http://www.part.lt/img/3f4560971161e60b5d531941fe5e0cdb553.jpg[/IMG]

2.

3.

4.

5.

6.
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Pics from my m8
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Some more pics from my m8. I compared them with pics from my iPhone 5 and they are very close in quality imo
[One (M8) General] Hazem99922:
View attachment 3541386

Manual mode
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
could you shoot some test dngs install app below

Settings > Set Picture Size 2688x1560 > Picure Format > bayer-mipi or bayer-qcom any should work click close

click on format button select dng shoot a couple of shots then you will find the .dng raw files in dcim/freedcam share those files
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
I installed the apk but didn't get a chance to finish setting up yet. Busy day. I will try to do it tomorrow
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
:good:
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
I got error from camera:100 when I try to shoot. I set the settings as you said. I'm on stock GPE 6.0.
[One (M8) General] Tagilso:
Inviato dal mio HTC One_M8 utilizzando Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
so it failed on all picture formarts ?

could you make a Folder called DEBUG in DCIM/FreeDCam it will create a text file with logcat error so we can see if HTC Killed raw in 6.0
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
It's working when I change it to bayer-qcom......just trying to figure out how to share the dng file
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
Google Drive or dropbox
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Okay I have four of them to share. Just waiting to get home to upload over WiFi so I don't waste my data.
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
okay no rush not sure if this works on GPE Edition of M8 but if you tap on the gear/settings icon you can control manual focus and manual exposure time
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Hopefully this works:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4H3DerDvjHfSTdzUi1HNnJkQjA/view?usp=docslist_api

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4H3DerDvjHfTktxbWlGeW9Gbmc/view?usp=docslist_api

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4H3DerDvjHfbFpGX2w3Y2hDLUE/view?usp=docslist_api
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
dng works well don't you have some outdoor ones
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Sorry, was travelling between jobs in the work truck. It was dark when I got home. I will have to take some real pics when I get a chance, hopefully tomorrow.
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
cool
[One (M8) General] KTFA:
Hello everyone ... Can someone tell me how can I upload pictures?
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
Flickr full size no compression or imgur for raw Google drive
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
https://youtu.be/CPoT8xsX3y4

https://youtu.be/ce1HHagxro8
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
That's pretty cool. You made that look really detailed. I took that shot in a moving truck on a bumpy road.
[One (M8) General] defcomg:
Yeah rawtherapee is really good at extracting details
[One (M8) General] EarlyMon:
Middle of moving, just a quick shot to let you know that I'm still on it -

IMG_2015.11.28_14.12.15.dng

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2MPU5MqABTXZFplaFEyeXZDclE/view?usp=docslist_api

Chose the qcom setting. Not sure why it's sideways.

Fwiw, same shot from stock HTC camera -

IMAG0702.jpg

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2MPU5MqABTXemdlSW4yM3V0V0k/view?usp=docslist_api
[One (M8) General] arses:
HTC ONE ULTIM8
[One (M8) General] kullum79:
[IMG="Shot this from my backyard"]https://scontent.ford1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/12310626_10204067508762507_212555490096620933_n.jpg?oh=d46033799067b418ea5e617e19647cdb&oe=56E68F3A[/IMG]
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Just some really quick pics taken this week on sky dragon's latest mm Rom.
[One (M8) General] buzzboy:
Just a couple of pics from my home town.
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Cool spot we were surveying the other day. Had to take some very quick pics on auto, no playing with settings at all. I thought they looked pretty good but I haven't put them on my pc yet to look at them up close. What do you guys think? I bought this phone expecting an average camera and I find it really decent even compared to an iPhone 5 I just sold.
[One (M8) General] RSK01:
I know there is a lot of motion blur, taken without tripod at - 30c. Did some PSX noise reduction, defog and exposure mods. Results are definitely better than my M9.

Originals can be viewed here https://www.flickr.com/photos/31191230@N07/
[One (M8) General] knobbyhtccruise:
I can't believe these images only have 1 like , they're amazing !
[One (M8) General] rizevnarastek:
Anyone else noticed the camera focuses way faster on MM than it did on LP?

Sent from my HTC One_M8
[One (M8) General] cirehawk:
I haven't gotten MM yet, so can't say.
[One (M8) General] Properly:
Maybe the only thing on this phone that I dont like,but sometimes surprises me
[One (M8) General] luka2000:
Its awesome pictures!
[One (M8) General] 350Rocket:
Pictures taken At work
[One (M8) General] SaskFellow:
The camera does seem to lock way faster on MM with the updated firmware. It also seems like the camera handles over exposure better too.

It would explain why the firmware update spent so much time updating the sensor hub. Glad to see HTC is actually still working on improving the phone at such a low level. :D
[One (M8) General] RSK01:
Sold my Sony Z5P. Revived my M8 by flashing it with Leedroid MM.

Here's some shots from the past week :

This indoor shot (hdr) has almost the same look as a S7 edge.

S7 Edge

Manual M8
[One (M8) General] Jbb3393:
I love seeing these excellent shots from this underrated camera. It does take some practice but great shots can come from this phone, here's a couple processed raw photo from my m8, this is my girlfriends cat Waldo.

And my cat Zoë
[One (M8) General] EZY-E:
No edit.

Also take a look at my 500px profile, all pictures there are with smartphones :)

https://500px.com/ezy
[One (M8) General] Imotep95:
No edit, point and shot(htc 10 camera).
[One (M8) General] doc_v15:
M8
[One (M8) General] syrkles:
Point and shoot macro no edit
[One (M8) General] yasan:
Full moon pictures. Last one Manual mode
[One (M8) General] Imotep95:
Sunset in Greece, June 2016.
[One (M8) General] doc_v15:
Flowers auto mode
[One (M8) General] syrkles:
Point and shoot macro
[One (M8) General] syrkles:
Freedcam picture adobe light room du rom
[One (M8) General] Jbb3393:
Estes Park, CO

HTC 10 camera HDR
[One (M8) General] gazzacbr:
Why the M10 pics here? Trying to make us M8 owners jealous? ;)
[One (M8) General] gustav30:
My guess is its an M8 running the M10 camera app...
[One (M8) General] Jbb3393:
? ? what [MENTION=2763883]gustav30[/MENTION] said
[One (M8) General] gazzacbr:
oh, I see, thanks.

@ Jbb3393: so is the app any good? if so, where to get it?
[One (M8) General] gustav30:
Generally you would find this on a custom Rom like S.rom.

Don't know if it's any better given it's the same 4mp sensor it has to deal with.
[One (M8) General] unixnews.cn:
woooo.... very beautiful :good:
[One (M8) General] Phalangioides:
So you've made your first post, bumping this year old thread just to ramble about camera quality and how in 2014 some people talked about it?

I don't mean to sound negative, but it seems pointless. Or at least 3 years too late.

HTC tried to do something with ultrapixels, but it turned out bad and the camera is poop - we all know it and accept it.

We know it's poop, but we still like it and try to make the best of it - as you've seen in this thread, there's lots of very nice shots. Lacking in detail of course, but they are still nice. For what this 4mpx camera is, it does it's job pretty good. I like to take some occasional, long exposure photo at night and I'm happy with the results.

Of course I'd like if it had so much megapixels that I could zoom and view ants or it captured so much light that I could see ninjas at night, but I bought the M8 knowing well that nothing of this sort would be possible. And I'm still happy with it.

People talked to critics how they are using it wrong and to everyone who didn't like it to buy a DSLR? It's a quite normal thing - some people just troll, others try to defend it. No one should take their words seriously. Actually same thing happens with everything - for example try talking some negative things about iPhone and some people will tell you that it's perfect and everyone who disagrees is wrong. Just fanboy things.
[One (M8) General] arses:
Htc u11
[One (M8) General] redpoint73:
I have to agree with you. It's easy to judge in hindsight, 3-1/2 years after the fact (and also, what is the point in doing so?). It's also not a good comparison that the person is comparing the M8 to the iPhone 6s, which came out a year and a half later. Apple itself significantly improved the camera and processing technologies during that time period (iPhone 6 versus 6s). The M8 actually doesn't fare too badly in camera comparisons to other "flagship" smartphones of the same time (Galaxy S5, iPhone 6). And in low light (and a lot of indoor settings are low light) even bests them in some cases. Sure, in auto mode the camera on the M8 can be finicky. But I take a lot of pictures with my phone, and rely on it to capture memories of my travels and kids. And I still managed to get pretty good shots with the M8 (almost entirely in auto mode), and stuck with it for over 2-1/2 years. Perfect or great, the M8 camera is not. But it was decent for the time, and completely possible to get pretty good pics.

I'd also maintain, that knowing how to take pictures (if even just the basics) still matters. Modern smartphone cameras are making it easier and easier for "regular" folks to get good snapshots. But we are still a long way for phone cameras being "idiot proof". I'm still baffled at the blurry, poorly exposed pics my sister-in-law posts on Facebook from her relatively current iPhone (6s or 7?). Just taking a small amount of time to understand how cameras work, and doing a bit of practice, can make a huge difference. I tried to explain exposure and lighting (in simple layman's terms), and she dismissed it, and said "I don't even know what those words mean" as if I were talking about nuclear physics or something. Clearly no interest in learning anything about the basic ideas of photography; and the quality of her photos reflects that.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
the M8 is almost a match to the iPhone 5s, beats it in color range but loses to image size, some odities to certain light scenarios, if you bothered to read the iMore article, in fact in those sames photo i find the M8 to carry a cleaner per pixel detail
[One (M8) General] blestsol:
I read it but when I see people using the camera and see my pics myself... I see that it varies hugely depending on where you focus. The two I named don't have that issue AFAIK. I think you or another poster said when snapping with the M8 to click on the darker areas to avoid over exposure.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
i never said darker area, if you click on dark you will over expose the photo you need to rely on auto focus for better metering or if you have to go manual, find a medim lit point, when in doubt i would target a brighter area and adjust the brightness later from the gallery, you are always better with under exposed image than actually wasting your shot with over exposure

as for MPs people no longer care about the pixels quality itself

all everyone wants is a smudgy mess

an image can not call it self 8MP unless its actually viewable at 1:1

even worse with the SGS/N3

homework: download this N3 sameple and view at 1:1, you call this "detail"?
[One (M8) General] Vandam500:
Those look fine IMO! :) I'll be receiving my M8 tomorrow. Returned my Note 3 for it.
[One (M8) General] blestsol:
Okay, Gotcha but my single point from the jump is its less worry with the other phones I mentioned which was a response to someone else.

I've seen that I have no problem with the M8 camera but when people say we shouldn't expect more, it's wrong. I know for a fact that you said HTC should of bumped it up from a 4mp.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
HTC has a physical problem of bumping the MPs without letting go of quality pixels, the sensor would grow in z depth something they don't have luxury of in their designs

the only way forward is for the next duo camera to use dual 4MP or 5MP sensors with different aperture between the first and the second, this will allow them to add compute optical zoom and upscale the image up to 13MP, look up corephotonics if you don't know what i am talking about, this camera would retain all the advantage of the UP camera plus improve dynamic range, add optical zoom and quality up-scaling, plus ofcourse the same depth pass thing (qualcomm works with HTC and also works with corephotonics on camera tech so i am willing to bet that this is how the next HTC camera will end up)

one thing HTC should never do and that is letting go of their stubbornness to keep good pixels

the M8 camera has many shortcomings yes but it's probably the only phone camera which you can actually view it's photos at it's native resolution without being shocked, all other relying on tiny pixels will have to also rely on aggressive noise cancellation in order to compensate and then under-sampling for the photo to look good

older 13MP phones like the Z1 couldn't even beat the M7 UP camera due to an insane amount of pixel smudging, now things have improved, Sony chose not to smudge their pixels and instead completely rely on super sampling and an incredible dynamic range, meanwhile both Samsung and LG still rely on aggressive smudging so actually the detail at 1:1 is a joke, in many ways even the samples coming from the SGS5 are pretty bad, so currently it's Z2>HTC/iPhone5s/LG>SGS5 (for me, talking about image quality and not size)

alas i will no longer try, there is a pixel science behind all this and aparently consumers are not willing to accept the facts

if HTC will indeed go with compute up-scaling and optical zoom, prepared to be surprised the next time, their first in "duo" cameras will become the standard in mobile phones