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[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Hey bro. I had the same situation. After 5 replaced One X and 3 replaced M7 i went for the Z1. And now when my wife needed a new phone i gave her the Z1 and i had Z2 and M8 to choose between. I went M8, like i said the dealbreaker was the camera. But my love for HTC will always win. Even though HTC screwed me over many times. But my decision to go M8 was the best. I love it and the camera is lovely IMO. Had to DOA one phone because of the volume rocker but now its all good :D.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Anandtech posted the Sgs5 review

www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/10
[One (M8) General] CandyAndy:
That shot was taken while the sun was still up, and I hope that its just compressed while uploading since the result is quite bad.

I have M8 waiting for me at the post office but really don't want buyers remorse. I just want excellent battery and good enough camera. M7 doesn't have either.
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
There was no sun! It was a country road on the verge of darkness. Tapatalk does compress. Nothing wrong with the shot. The photo is overexposed using manual settings deliberately to demonstrate the amount of lightness possible in proper low light going into pitch black. These roads where I live don't have street lights.
[One (M8) General] CandyAndy:
roger then. Then I guess that this was a very nice pic when taken the environment into account.

Sorry if I sound too critical, its just same as last year when I was wondering getting the M7. I read how everyone praised the camera. After using it for couple of days I had to admit that it was no where as good as my old Note 2. Now I am worried that this year same will happen.

But overall I guess that M8 is much better camerawise then M7
[One (M8) General] Eggcake:
"With a metal body, a rear facing camera with larger pixels (perhaps with some tweaks to camera output processing), a better NAND controller, and stereo front facing speakers, the GS5 would probably be perfect."

Sooo...if the S5 would be like the M8 it would be perfect. Just buy the M8 already :D

But the screen seems to be very good this time around. First time AMOLED becomes competitive. It's time :)

My M8 should arrive today or tomorrow, hope to be able to post some pics too!
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
I had the M7 for 3 months. I sold it as I was getting annoyed with lack of detail on landscapes. The M8 provides more detail, enough to make it viable. I had the Note 3 which I've just sold. For static, well lit shots, and even some static low light shots the Note 3 is much better than the M8. But the M8 has allowed me to capture sudden moments. I have 3 dogs. 2 cats and 4 kids. In 10 days I have priceless moments captured due to the speed of the M8 in all areas. I can't publish these due to privacy. The Note 3 would have missed all these smiles, looks etc... or have been blurred. But if you only take static shots the Note 2 is best.

I will confess I did use a tripod, the "A Better Camera" app which has a very good night mode. But needs tripod.
[One (M8) General] The-Last-Hylian:
Did I see a pic somewhere in this thread where it was night and the car headlights were creating trails?

Is this effect possible on the One M8? I guess if you change the shutter speed...
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Anandtech on the SGS5 camera:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/2

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review/3

on to camera

Capture speed:

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yes shutter speed slow down
[One (M8) General] slind:
Edited with VSCO
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Techradar on the SGS5 camera

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/ph...ung-galaxy-s5-1226990/review/5#articleContent

and camera samples vs M8

http://www.techradar.com/reviews/ph...ung-galaxy-s5-1226990/review/7#articleContent
[One (M8) General] The-Last-Hylian:
A few of the One shots looked sharper.
[One (M8) General] smudgelab:
Very quick point and shoot with my dog... Looking proper miserable here..
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Saw this beauty out at the shops! Bit of Ufocus on top :)
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
In my pocket I know have a great looking M8 :)

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Just read the anandtech on S5 and it's a pretty good review, it points out the good thing with the S5 camera, and the not so good things. M8 for the not so perfect setups, like indoor, quick moving or evenings. The S5 when you have perfect light... Well I still looking for a perfect light on the perfect moment :) I think my M8 will deliver without waiting for a good enough source of light :)

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[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Congratz and welcome to the club :D
[One (M8) General] riro1612:
The last picture of the HTC just needed less exposure value
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
For some reason I can't add more than on a picture at a tone
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Sunday evening
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Saturdays game. Over cast
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Another at the game
[One (M8) General] renehd2:
Lol its funny how they say the s5 would be a perfect phone if it had "a metal body, larger pixels, front spekears". They should have said if its more like the htc one m8, but they keep saying the HTC One its not that great (maybe Samsung getting dirty hands again?)

I dont know whats the problem with reviwers saying the Camera of the HTC one its bad because of the cropping thing. I could bet +-80% of smartphones users use their phone to Take social Pictures (Take the photo, some editing (which the HTC One m8 has the best tools) and post them to the social apps). If you show 1 htc one photo vs 1 photo from any other smartphones (without zooming them) to some friend or familiy, i could bet they would say the htc one photo its better.

Im sure few people make a crop in a photo, BUT reviwers put in peoples mind, that its a bad Camera because its bad at cropping bevause of the lack of pixels
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
I've never cropped a PIC.... The camera is as great
[One (M8) General] Gamerbuilt1:
U focus and crop

U focus

Original
[One (M8) General] Gamerbuilt1:
http://instagram.com/p/mieco5OzqM/

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Silver lining with ufocus and crop
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
What a Camera! I just love it, I just started to play with it and I will compare it to iPhone 5, LG G2 and Z1c.

Those pics are taken in low light (led) and booth color and quality is way off on the Z1c, I was a bit shocked, I tried booth SA and Normal mode.

This is the link to the public album, I'll try to do some more comparisons and put it here.

https://plus.google.com/photos/104863060699241353641/albums/5999986883751550065
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Link to 36 photos on Flickr https://m.flickr.com/#/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157643265004874/

From landscapes, effects, macro, everything.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I think I will call it the most frustrating camera ever because everyone is posting amazing photos from it when everyone thinks its bad
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Couldnt say it better
[One (M8) General] arses:
Amazing.

Wood's texture is much more visible on M8.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Yes, the focus point it's on the little lamp in the front, and you can't really compare those photos. Zoom in, the 4mp rules over 8mp Superior Auto. And if anyone wonder, you can't take indoors with 15mp wide or 20mp, the pics get to dark. I didn't se any difference between auto 8 and SA 8mp.

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I'll try G2, iPhone 5 and M8 tomorrow.

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[One (M8) General] roirulz:
A random click this evening
[One (M8) General] elmojh:
NICE !

THANKS!!

Great shots, mine arriving end of tomorrow. looking forward to my M8
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
My dog wants something new for dinner..
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Brilliant shootout - M8 vs the 41mp Nokia Lumia 1020

http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/04/09/fight-htc-one-m8-vs-nokia-lumia-1020/

and then photographer Richard Yates responds http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...-yates-responds-to-the-htc-one-m8-camera-omg/

Complete with photos. See how the HTC One M8 destroys the 1020!!
[One (M8) General] starbase64:
Hi,

here is my pic > https://www.flickr.com/photos/maik_reifschneider/13732001973/lightbox/

regards

starbase64
[One (M8) General] BookOfRick:
I was testing out night shots when:

Auto mode:

HDR:

Manual 1600iso 4second exposure:

Room was very very dark. Only some light bleeding from other room as seen.
[One (M8) General] Gamerbuilt1:
Ice Drop

Flash/Crop and Filtered
[One (M8) General] Kmac_thp:
Took this one near Baltimore at a golf course.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Z2 review which brings up the tiny pixel problem (also the reviewer remains cluelss)

http://www.androidauthority.com/sony-xperia-z2-review-364218/

and here is the WSJ talking about extreme pixel smudging on the SGS5 as well

http://online.wsj.com/news/articles...004579487392797543028.html?mod=rss_Technology

ie: Samsung staff falsely blames the image stabilizer to confuse the reviewer but it's actually the same old tiny pixel problem, the more MPs the tinier, the more you need to hide all that noise

Even the iPhone 5s uses some smudging which it can afford at 8MP, HTC is currently the only OEM to mantain the 1:1 photo capture integrity with a photoshop style sharpness filter (on the M8) and no smudging, no super sampling no cheating, just brutal 1:1 image quality coming from a very limited 4MP sensor

Interview with HTC’s camera guru Symon Whitehorn

here is the entire part about MP

i've previously touched on Motion sensing by a dual camera setup and here it is

looks like they will post more of this discussion later
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
nevermind wrong thread
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
Excellent find my friend. He had a great explanation as to why HTC did what they did regarding the camera. Now I can go out there with real information and battle the commenters on all those M8 camera bashing reviews...
[One (M8) General] hdorius:
i am dilemma on picking between M8 or Z2 for an upgrade,but after looking this thread,i think i'm sold with this "absolutely bad" camera phone lol....
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
HTC UK has their very own Ultrapixel collection on Pinterest (and other HTC phones)

https://www.pinterest.com/htcgb/htcreativity/

they just added [MENTION=241112]gavinfabl[/MENTION] HDR image

and a very nice techspot review camera page: http://www.techspot.com/review/801-htc-one-m8/page5.html

http://www.techspot.com/review/801-htc-one-m8/page6.html

more depth effects incoming :)

and this :)

HDR is overkill in low light as usual

shooting at ISO 3200 and a shutter speed of 1/10s produces bright, decent images

manual mode shutter slow down

Flash tone fixing

and why you should be careful with auto exposure and fix it yourself
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Indoor, rainy Sweden, no extra lightening at all.

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[One (M8) General] arses:
Fantastic shots.

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

☆★♡♥king of touch response♥♡★☆
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Indoor moving kid (in a middle of a jump) , no extra light and rain outside. This is simple not possible with my other cameras...

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[One (M8) General] pinktheater:
I don't know why people were complaining about the camera. The pictures you guys have posted are fantastic! :laugh:
[One (M8) General] Shan89:
Cuz all that matters to most is MEGAPIXEL count , what ALL of them including reviews forget and what is actually HTC's goal is REAL LIFE photography , yes m8 isn't as great as z2 in landscape but it's unbeatable for ppl which is why we need smarphone cameras right ?

All of them forget that none phone comes even close when it comes taking pics of kids / pets / fast point and shot and sucha things , all the focus is landscape for the most part and cropping , judging by this m8 camera sux.

I'd love to see a review with a real life usage, that appears to be visible only here on XDA where users who own the phone take these kind of shots and these kind of shots matter the most to me and probably most of you.

What use do i have from 20/16 mp camera if i can't take the shot of moving ppl / pet or those who have kids ? yes their picture is 20mp but it's usless while my pic is 4mp and it's completelly usable for everything.

That's the point HTC is trying to tell us but everyone refuse to accept it. Like i said i'd love to see a review with real life usage camera.
[One (M8) General] Drphiligood:
Simplely because people dont know what is the KPI on a phone camera
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
Companion gadget

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[One (M8) General] Drphiligood:
Today shots from airport
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
sgs5 review which somehow highlights the camera thing we are wasting our fingers on

http://mashable.com/2014/04/08/sams...:eyJzIjoidCIsImkiOiJfank0bWR0N2hjeHM5ZmRleCJ9
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Hehe
[One (M8) General] Can622:
My personal favorites!
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
LOL
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
I am no Manual photo master, mostly shoot Auto mode. Now i went into manual settings a bit and i changed the shutter speed to 4 and the camera got so insanely slow and almost completely white. Is this normal?
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Digi....you might have changed the iso....I think iso1600 is 4secs....put it back to auto
[One (M8) General] riginal:
Still can't decide between Note 3, M8 and Z2

And now with this: http://www.dxomark.com/Mobiles/Sony...ed-model-takes-first-place-in-Mobile-rankings

I'm even more hesitant
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
U sure? Because when i have ISO at 1600 and 4sec shutter everything is white. And everything gets bugged. No matter if i change the shutter it still is white. I have to exit the camera app and re-open it to get it back to normal. But when the phone lies flat the screen is black :S...Weird
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Just a heads up for everyone: Number one rule with the M7 camera and any HTC camera for that matter was to lower default sharpness, with Sense 5.5/6.0 you can even lower them in 0.5 values

HTC likes to increase sharpness so It impresses on the phone screen but this is the primary reason for artifacts and extra noise in the camera, thankfully its in your control

moving on the UP camera had tendency to over expose things in daylight, it has improved on the M8 but not enough, manual exposure control can give you awesome results

Automatic overexposure on the M7:

Manual targeting on the M7:

best thing about HTC cameras since the HTC Desire is the deep photographic control, they go even further with Sense 6.0 which allows you to create custom scenes with your own tweaks, including the most important: control of the shutter speed, you can save unlimited number of these custom settings which they call "lenses"
[One (M8) General] jspradling7:
I have to respectfully disagree. I have a G2 and the camera and GPS on the M8 beat the crap out of MY G2. But I grant that all G2's may not be created equal, some seem to be better than others. So in my case, the M8 has a better camera, better GPS, SD card, and is just as quick and smooth as the G2. I haven't had a chance to see how well the battery really lasts yet but it looks good so far.

If your G2's camera and GPS make you happy than the M8 might not be a big improvement for you. But for me it most certainly is.

EDIT, Oh... and the sound is awesome. I didn't own a M7 so this is my first set of front facing speakers and I'm impressed. HUGE advantage over the G2.
[One (M8) General] Milanno:
This would be terrible scenario :p
[One (M8) General] gtg465x:
No, I would buy that, but probably won't buy the current M8 because no real camera improvements were made compared to the M7.
[One (M8) General] rotchcrocket04:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] Great to see you around here again! I think you're one of the few that stood behind the abilities of the M7 (since before it launched)! Now I'm the one preaching its abilities in the next iteration :victory:

Are you picking up an M8?
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
completely agree. I have the m7 through sprint but my main phone is on verizon. I ended up with the g2 because I really did not want two m7 phones. Huge upgrade over the g2 in most ways. I was not that impressed with the g2 camera either. took to long to focus.

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Completely disagree. Unlike you I actually have both phones and I couldn't upgrade away from the g2 fast enough. always find it interesting when people make these claims without even having the phone.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
this is exactly the kind of BS I hate from both GSM and Phone arena:

@ gsmarena: STFU

taken with the M4 without any OIS, from just one try

a lot more ownage here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51322428&postcount=7590

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YES
[One (M8) General] Milanno:
I am getting impression that Ultrapixel camera is initially developed for Batman. It seems like dark-scene-performance is incredible which is amazing feature for Batman since he is very active in that period. For regular folks that are taking pics during they day, Ultrapixel is, okay
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
well said, for indoor and night living people its true

for the day, only manual control will save you

look at this image taken just before the Sunset

the camera collects unseen detail even in the dark areas (look at the shades in the tree branches) it almost gives it a popping out effect

however all this light sipping power comes at disadvantage as it can simply burn bright areas in very bright light

HTC should have used the depth pass from the second cam to improve metering, its seems improved but not enough
[One (M8) General] Milanno:
Had to do this one - HTC One Batman Edition :D
[One (M8) General] ratchetjaw:
That's awesome ha ha
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
love it! this is going viral :laugh:
[One (M8) General] Traceamount:
I was kinda shocked to see that I think you, were the only one to point out the "user images", like those inside a VZW store were clearly taken on auto by an amature, or just someone who doesn't understand manual adjustments on a camera. Looking over your pics, you confirmed exactly that. Thanks for taking the time to show it off, even though 4 will never be > 5 for some people :)
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
well actually Sense 6.0 takes it to a whole new level, the "Scenes" in your camera is simply a set of presets provided by your OEM, so for example "night" mode lowers shutter speed to gain higher quality, sadly before you could only lower sharpness on auto mode, HTC now provides you with the ability to create custom scenes called "lenses" which you can save as a presets, this is simply gold for any photo taking lover

ofcourse for those who like for the phone to simply "waw" them when they are taking a lazy shot at the beach: I think u should look elsewhere
[One (M8) General] flex360:
open those pictures on a 27 inch monitor or larger

i can see every pixel
[One (M8) General] fr0st420:
Can people post pictures from the m8 instead of talking crap? If you don't like the phone move along.
[One (M8) General] Rippley05:
That is interesting. Tell me, what does purchasing the phone get me that using the store model won't? You can even take pictures in the store, use a lot of different angles, modes, lighting. it doesn't take long to see the results from the camera. Do some research on the comparisons. The G2 camera is much better, the G2 has more features, I've already listed them.

Nobody is giving me upgrades/advantages over the G2, only saying it's not as good (is it because the spec sheet tells you it's better?). I have given multiple reasons why it isn't. I don't have the phone, no, but like I said..I molested the store model plenty long enough. I don't need to buy it to see the results. I don't own a Lamborghini, but I know it's nice. I don't own a 4 cylinder Ford Ranger (my dad does) but I know it sucks because I've used it.

I've owned the Hero, Evo, Evo 3d, evo4glongassnamehereLTE and the HTC One (m7), so I was definitely an HTC fan. Since then, I've had the Note 3 and the G2. So I've had plenty to compare it to.

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Thank you for being able to disagree without getting emotional. :good:
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
I think those pics a pretty good for a first firmware. My m7 is still the only camera that works with the kids, and I have a few in the lab. Weird decision not to up the size a bit, little of a bummer. I hope that the quality is better, than I can live with it.

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[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
not sure who you are accusing of being emotional..

what you are listing as g2 pluses are subjective to say the least.

LG roms are 1.7 gb. thats an insane amount of bloat. It is very laggy and is trying really hard to look like TW. Well they got the bloat part down anyways. Not to mention they are EXTREMELY anti-dev. Go check out the flex threads.

It is a cheap plastic phone with an incredibly stupid button arrangement.

And yes messing around with a phone tied to a wire for a few moments does not constitute a fair appraisal.

seems like you are here to troll.
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
90 percent of the pics I really want to save is indoor pics on my kids or party. So for me it's an easy choice. Any camera can do beach pretty well, just don't zoom here :)

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[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
With shutter set at 4 seconds in manual mode, does it take 4 seconds to take the shot? Mine doesn't....
[One (M8) General] Raggi01:
heh, im in the same position of you. Im torn between Z2 and M8 but slightly leaning towards Z2. Will wait for more stills from Z2 but the M8 stills are great, just not so detailed once you zoom in. Hardest decision in terms of mobiles I've ever had to make :)
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
If i set everything on auto except shutter camera is slow as hell and sometimes crashes :S
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
The screen goes white and is very slow. I also get the odd crash. But hitting shutter button takes the shot on the spot. Going to have to take a shot at night.

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The M8 is a what you see is what you get. The Z2 will allow for a slight crop into a part of the photo. But I had the Z1 and Z1 Compact and was angry at how bad the Z1 was, Z1 Compact was better but it still had the Z1 issues. I cancelled my Z2 order. The M8 is much more fun and creative.
[One (M8) General] Raggi01:
Thats why im saying im gonna wait until more reviews of the z2 camera!
[One (M8) General] assasin34:
Even s3 camera better than m8:)

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[One (M8) General] arses:
Yeah I agree s3 camera is better than all:))

HTC's innovation never ends :)) ♥One M8♥

☆★♡♥king of touch response♥♡★☆
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
We will have to wait untill HTC Camera grandmaster hamdir answers our questions :D

[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION] could you explain our questions regarding the shutter speed/iso etc :)

Shortly: Shutter @ 4 sec = Screen goes white, cam is slow as hell, dont see **** :D, no matter what you do it wont change, you have to exit and re-open camera for make it "Be normal", crashes etc.

Cheers

Okey i might found something

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7893/the-htc-one-m8-review/3