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[One (M8) General] Arthur Hucksake:
The cricket pic is zoomed if that helps. So is this one.......

http://i.imgur.com/VOizAIr.jpg

Did another one with less zoom..... http://i.imgur.com/sdUYVkU.jpg

These little froggies were tiny to look at through the tank.

People getting over dramatic about the zoom issue.

I think that's pretty good in pretty sketchy light and through a glass tank.

When I look at normal photo size if I was getting them developed, I don't understand why people are concerned. You can comfortably do a half A4 size without loss and then some.

I had 21MP on my Z1C and the pics never came out as good as they do on the M8, even in manual mode and 21MP.
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
You mean people with iPhones who don't like our awesome phone.
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
My mother many moons ago.
[One (M8) General] Chris_c81:
Used the unfocus but that was all. Pretty impressed really. You can still take decent enough photos.
[One (M8) General] Ramoti:
How is the camera doing in taking photos of landscape?

If I remember correctly that was a weakness of the previous m7.

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[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Still a weakness due to lack of mp but much better results than m7
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
As said much better. https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157643265004874/ look at my m8 landscapes.
[One (M8) General] slind:
Nice pictures, but incredibly blurry on the left side. Thats shocking to me, as the first ONE had problems in this respect as well.
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
I've noticed that. But that's the wide angle lens which is the same for most lenses even dslr
[One (M8) General] slind:
I know, but any DSLR lense with that kind of blur (and only on one side) would be pulled from the market in no time.

By no means I want to discredit this camera, but there have been plenty of faulty M7s with the same problem, and I am really worried about many of the pictures here in this respect.
[One (M8) General] Stephen:
Moderator information,

I have cleaned up a few posts. Guys please keep on topic and keep posts related to the m8 only.

Ghost
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Iv just got the m8...I've been comparing to my n4, these pics are from my m8 (I'd sent them to my n4 for direct comparison hence the SIG)
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
I'll take a few more at the football match later
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
I replaced my first phone due to the loose volume rocker.

After replacement i went out for a coffee with my wife. Picked out my phone and snapped a pic
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
I can't see it in all the shots. Did you? If I have a faulty phone then I will swap it for another. You're right about left side blur. I just thought it was normal like my dslr lenses.
[One (M8) General] duckstardeluxe:
I'm coming from an LG G2 and in direct comparison, I think unedited photos are much better on the LG. Ufucus makes okay photoresults on the M8's screen, but the results are inconsistant.

Only 1/3 of the Ufocus treated shots are okay, sadly.

Pictures with sky in it looks burned out on the M8, again sadly. It's not like the pictures are bad really, but when coming from the G2, it's a step down on the camera :/

Good things about the dual cam setup:

FAST autofocus

FAST trigger speed

I'd recommend setting EV to -0,5 for outdoor pictures.
[One (M8) General] DakiX:
Ufocus is really nice but still not perfect.

via One M8 with Tapatalk
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Doesnt seem a fault but an aspect of this camera the image is really wide and so you can always crop the blurred part, it also doesn't happen in every shot

If it's not extreme or happening in every shot it's not a defect

You can exchange it to double check, but if the phone is flawless I wouldnt risk it for such a thing
[One (M8) General] JelloB:
I bought the phone two days ago and am absolutely in love with it. I read the camera bashing reviews beforehand and didn't care. I never use the camera anyway.

Looking at the results achievable by this phone in this thread, I may actually start using the camera on my cell phone for once. Some of these pictures are amazing. Thanks for the thread guys.
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Inside bookshop. Low lighting. Had to be quick as they don't allow taking photos but I wanted to see result.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
I dont see a left blur on this one (maybe low res) just a trait of this camera
[One (M8) General] fernando sor:
I personally place the m8 camera above the LG g2 due to the Lg having such slow shutter speed and focus.

It was nice for enlarging and zooming in though.
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
I can say that the DSC-QX10 will be a great companion to the M8.I have tested it with both Android and iPhone and it do deliver exactly what I need, zoom and great landscape. This little package totally remove the need of a bulky camera, for me that is. I'll will bring it to Norway next weekend for a inhouse arena shooting. Just saying :)

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
It is on the left when you slightly zoom in on original shot :( I think it's more obvious on scenic shots.
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
This PIC didn't load up before so this is the 2nd attempt
[One (M8) General] dondavis007:
I'll say the same. The LG camera had two problems, first it extremely slow in low light and second it's pretty cold. If you use xdsdebs hack it's much much quicker but it looses low light a bit and is even cooler. Low light looks good until you put in on a real screen, then ut looks lika watercolor. In my world the M7 is better even on a real screen.

Sent from a mobile Gadget...
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Yup the tiny inprecise pixels bleed into each other in low light and the only solution is to median (smudge) the hell out of them, hence water color look...same problem for Samsung but they dont slow down shutter time as much and so it has even weaker low light than LG

too bad HTC is getting much injustice for doing the right thing

Sony decided with the Z2 to keep the noise and clean the chroma, looks like noisy hell at 1:1 but once downsampled from 20MP it exceeds the m7/m8 in low light, especially since it has an excellent dynamic range, sounds good but I have no idea about its shutter/focus speed though

Anyway HTC is doing the proper thing I just hope they fix this with more MPs rather than giving up on UP...considering the FUD going on and a 13MP leaked butterfly I think we will see a regression in camera usability next time
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Did a slow mo video of my cat running up the wall and it looks great but I wonder . .

would it be able to do something like what Z2 has "Timeshift" . .. looks like a nice video feature to have?
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
Playing with Duo Cam..

Original:

Cartoon

Ufocus

More samples:

Odd colored Cadillac CTS:

Macro of bearing failure:

Very, very sunny today:
[One (M8) General] wangtang2k:
Love this phone.

The shiba and her temporary uncurled tail agree.

This phone is a huge upgrade camera-wise from the M7. Great color indoors. Amazing.
[One (M8) General] smcgov:
I have a friend at work who has an m7 and we were discussing how much camera we really need.

He's from India and happened to have a pic of himself as a little boy, it never occurred to either of us

that the colors weren't perfect or the focus wasn't very sharp, we were looking at the essence of the

picture which was him as a little kid. To me I am saving memories, although it feels great to snap a great looking pic

I don't look at pics of my past and think, "man I wish I would have had a professional Canon for that moment"...

does my kid need to look back in 30 years and say "hey dad your vivid nose hairs look great in this pic" ?
[One (M8) General] pham077:
is that doge
[One (M8) General] predator21:
Exactly.... U perfectly said that right...Here are sm samples of qx10
[One (M8) General] wangtang2k:
Much tech, such phone, so winner... WOW
[One (M8) General] DakiX:
Here are some of mine https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yfi28ouihrm32qe/LJhe0DoCqE
[One (M8) General] mwatson:
Thanks for posting these. I can see no real difference from the M7. Look in the bottom left of the pics especially the picture of the keyboard. There is so much noise the the bottom left just turns into mush.

In HTC's position right now, they really should not have taken this huge 4mp risk..
[One (M8) General] benjamin.j.goodwin:
One I took this afternoon, with no editing at all. Bleeding heart flower, can't remember it's latin name.
[One (M8) General] Forsaked:
He is called Elvis:
[One (M8) General] wase4711:
If nothing else, this thread should remind people that they should always ignore what the "expert reviewers" say about any phone..

The only way to really know how any phone really is is to try it out for your self..

Most of these shots look great to me...
[One (M8) General] jonas2295:
some new samples. click for full res

panorama only messed up by moving team mates
[One (M8) General] UgXvibe:
Sunrise this morning.
[One (M8) General] limeaid:
I'm going to disagree here. Looking at these photos pretty much confirms what most published reviews have said so far. The photos are certainly passable when looking at them on the phone and/or via social media sharing, but as everyone has said, they lack detail and the results are inconsistent. The ufocus feature is an example of the inconsistency--it looks ok maybe 1 out of every 5 shots and completely artificial the rest of the time

It's too bad because the camera interface itself is such a pleasure to use. I really wanted to like the m8's camera, but the image quality just isn't good enough for my purposes
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
never did I see on Android a camera with such professional color range and you call it passable, ufocus is a post effect and has to do with the main camera quality
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
They look great on my TV. And I think the photos in this thread are fine.

The ufocus is fine. You just have to learn how to use it. Certain distances work much better. And it's clearly not at its full potential.

HTC have opened up the APIs to developers.

Clearly the pixel density will not be as detailed in certain scenarios but that really only matters if printing larger than 9 x 7 or viewing on a 4K TV.

And then there's the versatility of shot first. Edit after. But if it's not as you like there are many options.

Even the Nokia 1020 with 41mp has faults. Very high quality but no HDR mode and slow shot to shot times. Samsung S4 Zoom the best camera I've used on a phone. Except crap panoramic quality and errrr it's huge lol

The S5 has yet to prove itself in real life and I imagine will get improved by software updates. But inside the phone shop, several of the lower light photos came out blurred. The others were excellent.

So it's all about choice. And I didn't expect the 4mp to suffice. I sold my M7 because of the camera. But the M8 is much better IMO .
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Anyone who claims this the US same quality as the M7 is simply speaking out of ignorance or trolling
[One (M8) General] riginal:
If I remember you correctly from another thread you use your M8 only for low light & in other scenarios you use your iphone & note3

so yeah for people who have limited budget & pocket (to carry more than one phone) there may be better options

By the way personally still struggling between M8, Z2 & Note3, Would love to go for M8 but the camera worries me, Also spent some time in store with M7 & was pretty disappointed by its camera
[One (M8) General] limeaid:
How big is your TV? 20"? ;)
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Lol

Double that ;)

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I don't carry all those phones at once lol

I was just highlighting the strengths of each based on my ownership usage of each.
[One (M8) General] avocco:
Here's a few random shots. I think this is probably the best camera I've used on a phone to date.

Edit: Only showing one picture for some reason. And I can't change it. Also because I'm using the XDA app it seems to compress the image making it look a lot more blurry than it is.
[One (M8) General] bgtrack:
^^ This...love his videos
[One (M8) General] mwatson:
There is a lot of blur to the left. Not sure if yours is defective or if thats just how it is on these phones?
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
Where? Dont see it :S

Here is one thru the window
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
its just how it is with these UP phones, there is a chance of a left side blur but its only on the far left, given how wide it is you can always crop that part but after using the M7 for a whole year, this trait was never an issue

its not a defect, unless you focus on the left area, the blur might occur

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please check here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51415071&postcount=8428

the camera is massively better than the M7, I've tested and help users with the M7 camera for a whole year and i can tell you the difference in color range and automatic results is simply like day and night, the M7 was never able to produce vivid colors and always biased toward yellow or green in colors, equally fixing the exposure in daylight was a little more tricky than the M8 but for both phones there is one golden rule: when you pull out your phone and see the auto focus results, if the exposure seems off you must manually pick a medium lit target in order to fix it, the UP camera always showed its best with a just a tiny bit of effort when auto fails and this thread tells the story
[One (M8) General] slind:
Nice shots, but the third looks absolutely terrible on the left side, calling this blurry isn't even doing it justice.

I don't care how often hamdir,

who undoubtedly knows what he is talking about

, says it's normal to some extend: I think it's not ok in this picture.
[One (M8) General] DigitalMadness:
I dont see the blurry parts. Is my pics blurry aswell? I have to be blind or retarded
[One (M8) General] StickyGeko:
Im sending mine back due to the high speaker grill and scratch on the back.... My camera is perfect.....no blur in the corners....worried that the replacement will have it :(
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
i already explained how it happens, when the focus is further away from the left area

but his camera is not defected and the proof is right there in his photos, have a look at the second photo, the "01-13" digits on the bottom left cartoon box, they are perfectly in focus while being on the edge of the left side meanwhile the third photo you can see the blur clearly, conclusion: the same as the M7 conclusion: the blur happens in certain scenarios usually when the focus is away from the left side (ie if he focused on the left of the same photo it wouldnt have blurred)

clearly its an optical trait of this camera but considering how wide angle it already is (almost 2x the SGS4): you actually have a lot of horizontal room to crop the affected area

the left side blur occurring in certain conditions is well known trait from the UP camera, many proper photographic reviews pointed it out, so i really don't get what is your point in here? it happens with the M7 and M8, its not a defect it's a trait, its something that exists (like bad view angles are a trait of the Sony Z1 screen and not a defect) so its up to you to take that or leave it

the camera has a wide angle lens so optical distortions on the sides are well know (a photo of a person near the edge will looks slightly deformed) and so the blur has something to do with it + the focus mechanism

but pointing out to users who are okay with it makes me wonder...

[MENTION=474471]avocco[/MENTION] please take a photo with the focus firmly on the left side so we can end this futile bashing

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Photo comparison with the M7

color differences do not show well due to a lot of grey in the photo

but it shows a much improved digital sharpness algorithm, you can clearly see that on the air conditioner units and Mitsubishi car closes up, the image is actually sharper but with a lot less noise, notice the readability of the number plate, the M8 photos are one of the few if not only smartphone cameras that can be used at 1:1 without looking a smudgy mess or resorting to down sizing

a lot more in this review

http://translate.google.com/transla...=lp&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&channel=sb

the Manual mode looks like a gold mine
[One (M8) General] progosu:
wow, just realized that the pictures look almost the same, the main difference is that m7 has a better macro mode.

I really don't care which one is "more natural", I like pictures that look nicer.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
The reviewers confirms the M8 improvements: (translated)

This is the sort of improvements we see apple provide when they don't change the camera module

interesting photo of the flash

in the same review he speaks of how much better you can get close focus compared to the M7

[MENTION=4132409]progosu[/MENTION] check this he used manual focus, that's very impressive:

so basically with the M8 camera manual mode you can decouple focus from exposure metering
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
[MENTION=1144067]hamdir[/MENTION]

Been agreeing with you all through this thread but serious man some people arent gonna be happy with the camera.

IMO it does perfectly well for what it needs to do .. Take photos!

If people need a better camera then buy and different phone simple. I like the fact people come on here and same its a terrible camera yet they have the phone and knew it was going to have a 4MP camera??

Or they don't have the phone and just think because reviews and samples are bad, the camera is bad fullstop. . . .

Point is I actually find HTC to be very brave and not to have come back this year and slapped a 16-20mp or even a 13mp . . ..

People have their own opinions and I respect each and every member for that but point is this camera is'nt as bad as some are making it out!

Again IMO the M8 is taking better shots then my Note 3 in most cases and with my short time with the Xperia Z1 its taken better then that which says something.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
just been frustrating that people are refusing to see the big picture, not for a second did I deny the limited pixels are well limited but i work in imaging and i know my "pixels"

but it's designed completely different from what people insist to look at, something started with the HTC One X and that is realizing it's a phone camera and not a still life beauty camera, and so it aims to give you a perfectly usable mobile camera to capture the moment any where, any time and whatever your target is in the least amount of time possible but still able to achieve beauty with a little effort thanks to a a very deep amount of manual control

no other phone come close in that regards and the fact HTC is able to give you this quality at 1:1 without any cheating (no supersampling) with just 4MP is actually a statement in their favor rather than a negative

this must be the greatest most useful 4MP camera ever made
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
You have probably explained but how is this 4mp camera taking better/just as good photos as a 13-20mp? Also with you working in imaging what do you think HTC and other devs will bring to the table regarding the duo lens etc . . .more effects? what other things could the depth sensor do?

Silly question do you have the M8?
[One (M8) General] ricecake2000:
I am just so torn if I wAnt to pull the trigger and buy this. How are you guys/gals getting these pics?

Mostly auto mode or manual?
[One (M8) General] brar.arsh:
The above ones are Auto mode the Ufocus!!
[One (M8) General] petewaugh:
The mixer pic was taken in near darkness in Manual mode with the focus decoupled. Focus is on the "On' button above 'Limit". The landscape using AE/Focus lock in HDR.

It's the most versatile (and truly useful) phone camera I've used and I'm almost ashamed how many I've gone through.
[One (M8) General] ricecake2000:
Ok. Yeah i plan on doing some hiking and maybe some traceling this summer but i dont want to carry a camera with me, also cant afford a lefit camera. So just wondering if this would be good for scenary.

My g2 camera is just soooooo slow. And i want to ditch verizon in the next week or 2.
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
If you suffer from slow camera the one and only antidote is the HTC One camera which is designed purely for instant shot in mind wether day or light, the results are mostly auto but sometimes if it's too bright you might need to manually a medium lit target to prevent over exposure, decoupling focus from exposure will do even more awesome

So frustrating that reviews completely ignore this side and most importantly indoor low light power
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:


All auto. Blue balls edited with uFocus.

On my blog tomorrow I have total darkness photo samples. Prepare to be amazed.
[One (M8) General] Raggi01:
Hey guys I really need help! Im torn between the htc one and the z2. The deciding factor right now for me is the camera. Both phones look sexy. Both have great screens. One is waterproof and has a great speaker and one has amazing speaker. The camera is what im undecided on. If this were the deciding factor for you guys, which one would you go for? Please help.
[One (M8) General] mwatson:
How do you decouple the focus from the exposure?
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
With manual mode, you get the ability to manually select focus

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Well you need to wait for professional and user reviews for the Z2 camera, the biggest question is usability and speed issues if they are fixed after the Z1/Z1compact, also Sony does half a year flagship cycle so software support isn't as good as HTC
[One (M8) General] ILS_SuperNova:
Thank good sir :) I respect that your defending this phones camera even when you haven't got it . . Shows me and should show others that you have a keen eye for good photos

I really hope they do add more effects
[One (M8) General] cshort0982:
Taken at the Salton Sea.
[One (M8) General] ceo.mtcl:
My wife is switching from iPhone to android only for the camera. We both love the crazy things dual camera can do. It's not a gimmick.
[One (M8) General] chobits:
How fast is the auto focus in lowlight / indoor condition?

I own Lumia 1020, and it surely creates stunning "still" images (non moving objects)

Then again I find its limitation when it comes to moving object but only in low light condition especially when I try to take photo of my baby

Auto focus speed is really pai* in the ***

It makes me lose moments

The lag of shutter to shutter still ok at least for me

I can use burst mode with lower image quality (indoor and lowlight make burst mode quality unusable)

I guess it comes to Speed vs Quality especially in low light and indoor

Thanks
[One (M8) General] hamdir:
Shocks me that shutter speed is still bad in the 1020 despite all the praise, the 920 as well had such unusable camera speed that most low light samples in reviews are blurred

HTC would achieve even better results if they relied in long exposure times like this...the answer to your question, how fast? It's instant even in low light (at least on the M7)

All this talk about speed makes me really wonder why reviewers simply neglect such usability talk in their reviews, funny when every CPU mhz counts for them and not the camera speed
[One (M8) General] gavinfabl:
Samples of photos in pitch black conditions. Really see what the M8 can do here http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/2014/04/08/htc-one-m8-daily-blog-in-the-night/

Shot below was at near darkness. I used manual mode and messed with the shutter times.