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[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
Right, I just want to add that having done the 4.4 update earlier in the week, I'm having no end of problems with the camera, huge battery drain (as in 1% every 2 minutes) and other system apps crashing.

Up until now I've always argued that you don't need to do a full reset and given how many updates I've done for so many models, I stick by that - except the problems I had with 4.4 made me decide yesterday to do a backup and then do a full clear/reset (done by re-flashing, just to make sure).

First problem; the internal backup app didn't back up my settings or apps properly. It also failed when restoring BBC iPlayer (so very early on, about the 4th app out of 100+ apps) and froze.. and there's no (easy) way to skip an app for restoration, so basically it didn't restore anything.

So into Play store and downloading the apps all over again - which of course lost their settings.

Cut a long story short, I was up until the small hours just to get it mostly working - knowing it will take a few days of loading apps to log in and customise again.

(Note in diary; use another backup app - ironically, I used to use My Backup Pro and will go back to this from now on).

Anyway, my reasoning for the full clear was that things like Update Centre were crashing, and the camera was also refusing to load. It was also rare that I could start the camera from using the button. That wasn't acceptable and I couldn't fix it by clearing the data/cache for the camera either.

But since starting afresh, the camera is still not performing. It rarely starts via the camera button, or even via dragging the camera icon up on the lock screen. Sometimes when it starts, it show a still of the viewfinder image (but hasn't take a photo) and won't respond until you tap the power button and unlock again.

If I do get the camera to start up when the phone is locked, it often goes back to the lock screen by itself.

And sometimes it says camera not available.

Another problem, although I've seen it before, is tapping on the last photo at the top right doesn't go to the gallery all the time. Sometimes it will take another photo despite how precise you are.

I was quite annoyed today as I was out at the former London Olympics site for Sport Relief and wanting to take photos and video of my kid playing football and tennis - and I spent more time trying to get the camera to work than actually taking photos. Frankly, I'm no longer bothered about whether the new software means better photo quality!

The only good thing is that the battery now seems to have settled down, and it isn't running quite as hot - but I still think the update was rushed out and maybe people should wait for the rumoured patch to, hopefully, fix these things.

PS. When did the internal answering machine appear? Was that in 4.4 or have I simply never spotted it before?
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
when my external sd is inserted mediaserver is killing my battery and not allowing my phone to sleep it is always warm or hot , I don't know why this is happening as I have no sync enabled, I cannot find what app is causing this - tried everything - is google doing something with my media

This is something hidden that I cannot find, I've used system monitors and nothing is showing yet my phone is obviously extremely active

unmount sd card and it all stops
[Xperia Z1 General] MobileBritain:
Unless the process changes this is what you can expect to happen.

UK unbranded version will only become available when the last UK network releases their customised version

That last network has been EE for a long time.

EE thoroughly test firmware releases and will only approve them if they believe they are free of serious bugs.

It seems that UK unbranded only gets released after the EE version is released.

If EE ask for a fix, then around the loop we go again without seeing the original version.

It has been speculated that whoever approves the release of UK unbranded firmware relies on all the networks to find any issues before being brave enough to sign off.

Annoying but it's been like this for quite a while.
[Xperia Z1 General] maid:
where do i change this to save to SD card?
[Xperia Z1 General] MobileBritain:
Had a weird issue today, was in a local restaurant which had an open free WiFi network, the Z1 point blank refused to get past the obtaining IP address stage. Other people were able to connect with no issues.

Currently using the French firmware in the UK.
[Xperia Z1 General] IAmCowGodMoo:
Hey mate, Im from UK, London, thanks for the update, I've been following this thread for a while contemplating if i should upgrade my phone, but the more comments I read the more Im against it.

Which region of software did you update to, as far as im aware there are no UK carrier or unbranded upgrades available except for Vodafone in the UK.

Cheers.:good:
[Xperia Z1 General] drsoran2:
[MENTION=4607210]jonmorris[/MENTION]

I have non of your problems. Camera is fine. No app crashing, huge battery drain or hot phone.

I only lost 3% of battery in 9 hours over night. This was unrooted.

I'm going to try tonight with root and some apps frozen.

In fact, I've first upgraded via flashtool (no wipe) - alll was good.

Then downgraded and upgraded again because I missed root.

This time with full wipe.

Everything as good as before when I didn't wipe.

Sony's back up and restore app worked well for me.

[MENTION=5201979]Geoffxx[/MENTION]

It's probably because of the stupid new Google SD card restrictions introduced with KK.

3rd party apps can't write to the sd card anymore, only read, and this makes some of them go crazy.

When I was unrooted on KK for one day I didn't have problems with this but was still hugely upset about not being able to fully use my card so I decided to root and can now happily and fully access my sd card again like in pre 4.4 days :)
[Xperia Z1 General] IAmCowGodMoo:
Thanks for the update, im in UK too, and wow so how long would we be looking to wait for an unbranded or atleast an EE version, since my Xperia Z is locked to EE/T-Mob/Orange.

Do you think its better upgrading to the best stable version from another country now or just wait for a UK carrier/unbranded release? (however long that will take)
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
The wipe seems to have made little to no difference by the looks of it (I'm no better or worse off than if I'd just stuck with the loss-free update), so I guess I can still say that most of the time using Flashtools, you can untick the wipe data option.

Perhaps it is an app I've subsequently installed, or maybe one of the many additional camera apps (but surely Sony would make sure all the preinstalled ones worked okay?). Fingers crossed it's fixed one way or another, as something is up.

The SD card restrictions are a PITA and now that it's becoming more known about (as before you didn't have SD cards on any Nexus devices or even the Moto G) I hope that people will put pressure on Google to sort it.

All I want is to be able to give permission to some apps. I trust that I know what I'm doing and will take the hit if I'm wrong. I don't want Android to become closed like iOS and Windows Phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] MobileBritain:
EE do not stick to any completely predictable timescale.

It could be a few weeks it could be a few months if their testing team are busy or find serious bugs.

They could surprise us all and release it tomorrow (possible but unlikely).

If you want KitKat now then make sure you have a route back to your original firmware then pick a generic country version and flash it.

When UK unbranded finally gets released you can either downgrade to a 4.3 firmware and upgrade via the official route or wait for someone to post the ftf.
[Xperia Z1 General] koziakauzu:
Battery looks very good, updated yesterday evening after a full wipe, went to bed with 1 hour podcast timer autostop and when I woke up it only drained 1%.
[Xperia Z1 General] thegios:
how did u manage?

even beforw upgrade, if overnight I leave the phone wigh 3g/wifi/sync off (so only 2G) I get a 1% discharge per hour
[Xperia Z1 General] koziakauzu:
I dunno... I was afraid that the battery would be dead overnight after seeing all the reports...

Just installed greenify/set up stamina.... And airplane mode of course since I take it to my bed.

(I'm on NUT's rooted+deoxed rom)
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
Jonmorris I feel your pain but I have to say that I am not experiencing any of the issues you are describing, as I have said many times on this thread - this sdcard issue is the cause of all my problems, if I unmount the card my phone goes back to normal, I have gone through every app and checked setting etc to make sure none of them are doing things automatically but I have to say there is an app on my phone that is going rogue and I have no way of knowing which one it is until I root my phone - something is constantly accessing my ext sdcard but is being blocked, my phone never cools down cold it is always active and warm unless I unmount the ext sd - we install all this stuff on our phones and they have permissions to access lots of unnecessary things

next is a big uninstall of stuff I don't use that often to see if that helps
[Xperia Z1 General] alankstiyo:
I miss the old way to reach settings trhough the notification bar, now it's gone!!
[Xperia Z1 General] feddexx69:
weird, sometimes when i press the back button repeatedly while on an app, the camera opens for a second then closes
[Xperia Z1 General] piponxs:
For you guys who say "I am happy with update" ,: just wait
[Xperia Z1 General] bong0x00:
have some random reboot when using camera
[Xperia Z1 General] dakunclear:
I was angry then I did factory reset and got a little happy then I did hard boot and everything started working properly so I'm happy now lol
[Xperia Z1 General] plau13:
ok i'm waiting. but so far i have no battery drain, no overheat issue. I didn't even wipe. Just did the pcc.
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
I believe I have found the app that was causing some problems - battery drain - phone constantly active and warm even when sitting doing nothing - charging issues warning me that when the phone was on the charger that it was using more power than the charger could keep up - screen getting darker and darker as I used it - hard to believe that one app caused all this

What I noticed was that when I was looking at setting/apps/running the list kept moving up and down every few seconds, apps that newly open are loaded to the list at the top so I watched for a while and this app kept appearing on the list for about 1/2 sec then disappeared again so it was on a cycle starting and stopping starting and stopping, when I uninstalled it my phone immediately became stable - all the above listed issues are gone, hard to believe that an app could do so much damage, the app in question has not been updated since the middle of last year, I have notified the developer and would assume they will fix it - not sure if I should mention the name of the app here but if someone is having similar issues them pm me although my explanation above should be enough to find it yourself if it's installed

So only the ext sdcard debacle now (which confused the issue) some apps like quick pic - mxplayer poweramp and file managers should have full access to the ext sdcard - google needs to sort that out
[Xperia Z1 General] Dpk1:
I had similar overheating & excessive battery drain issues initially. Like you said the new security limitations (Kitkat) for ext sdcard seem to be the cause. In my case it was the media server app going rogue perhaps due to some (inaccessible?) data on the ext sdcard. These issues were resolved after a clean install (repair with factory reset) of Kitkat using SUS & formatting of ext sdcard. I transferred back all the media files from my pc using the MTP mode via usb and let the phone settle & after a reboot everything was normal. No more overheating or battery issues ever since (3-4 days), infact the battery backup seems improved to me! I've also discussed this here (post # 2075 & 2077).
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
as per my previous post - the app I uninstalled fixed all my problems, it may have been trying to access the ext sdcard I really don't know but equally it had no reason too as it was an app to do with wifi connection monitoring/scanning

My media server is now running at 3% from over 50% - like I said my phone is now working 100% - can you imagine what I've gone through since updating to KK a couple of days ago - problem after problem

I'm a little happier now
[Xperia Z1 General] Dpk1:
Lol, i missed that post of yours! I agree this new Kitkat external sdcard restriction is quite a nuisance for us at the moment. This makes all the play store apps like file managers, media players, etc. useless & redundant without full permissions to write on external card, at least for all of us who are on stock rom without root (BL).

With google discouraging the use of external memory (sdcard) on android more & more with every OS upgrade, I think it's time for manufacturers like sony to bump up the internal memory (32 or 64 gb at least) in the upcoming flagships.
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
Yeah, that's another annoying thing. Two finger swipe (or the one finger 'delay' trick) to access the shortcut to settings icon.

And also things like Wi-Fi are just toggles. On a Nexus, you can hold to turn on/off Wi-Fi and tap to go in and manage the networks. And you can also see what network you're connected to at a glance.

Not massive problems by any means, still niggling and frustrating.
[Xperia Z1 General] naga.nino:
Does anybody has that stupid bug that puts you on speaker automatically when you answer the call? I see that they didn't remove this crap with latest 4.4.2 update.
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
I am not sure that's a good solution. For one, it will make the device more expensive.. and secondly, I am just waiting for the 128GB microSDXC cards to fall in price a bit more (lowest I can find so far is £100) so I'd really like to continue buying phones that have a card slot to let me choose and upgrade when I want.

And given Sony changes its flagship every 6 months, it's still easier to swap the card from phone to phone than backup/restore via a computer!

In other words, while 32GB onboard might be good for apps that have to use the internal storage, I really do not want to have to start thinking in the Apple way of estimating my usage needs and then having to pay £100-200 more for the model with 128GB storage or whatever.

I am seriously annoyed with Google, especially as they did this some time ago but it wasn't really noticed until 4.4 started to roll out to phones with card slots.

So easily fixed too, but will it be? I mean, if Google has a long term plan and this is an essential part of it. In which case, things could only get worse.

---------- Post added at 10:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:27 AM ----------

Yes I've had that, on both the Z1 and Z1 Compact. Not sure what causes it although I seem to recall reading somewhere that it was a bug in Chrome? Not sure how that would be connected, or if I'm a bit confused, but my phone hasn't done it recently and Chrome did get an update a week or so ago.
[Xperia Z1 General] thez3ro:
It is beacause of chrome.

Im on 4.4.2 rooted and i dont have that problem any more.. And chrome was updated recently, maybe that is it...
[Xperia Z1 General] naga.nino:
Well that is strange because i had it yesterday. :) I'll try to wipe some cache in call and chrome apps.

Thank you guys. :good:
[Xperia Z1 General] Dpk1:
You've perhaps misunderstood what I said in my previous post. I meant that manufacturers should now give us more internal memory (32 or 64 gb instead of 16 gb) along with the external card slot given the new google restrictions. I never meant for any android manufacturer to go the apple way.

I personally never cared about the internal storage on my smartphones as long as it had external sdcard slot, only until now, after experiencing the annoying kitkat restrictions (for sdcard) on my Z1 (having about 45 gb data on external sdcard). I don't think people would mind the price if they are reasonable. The Note 3, for instance, comes with 32gb internal memory along with sdcard slot here in India & I think it's price difference wasn't huge (about 4-5k INR) compared to Z1 at launch.

I too wish that google decide to drop these restrictions in future but I think it seems highly unlikely. I know all this can be easily fixed by rooting, but as we all know it is very tedious & messy to root 4.4 on a locked BL. And that much trouble just to delete something on my sdcard using any non stock app!

Back to the topic, I think the new kitkat update is much better regarding battery backup, overall performance & stability than the previous stock jellybean rom and has fewer bugs. One bug that I've experienced on the kitkat update is the "loudspeaker issue" mentioned here. Sound would randomly shift to the earpiece instead of loudspeaker sometimes while playing a movie. Other than this and the sdcard limitations I like this new update which fixed a lot of bugs for me like weird touchscreen issues, animation issues, occasional lag etc.
[Xperia Z1 General] AndroPlus:
I modified Settings.apk to show runtime selection, but ART didn't work.
[Xperia Z1 General] aimcr7:
Anyone successfully installed xposed framework on KK? I can't seem to make it work, latest version of xposed installer
[Xperia Z1 General] AhsanU:
I'm heavily regretting installing this update.

The phone is overheating after minimal use, there is no tap to wake, the two drop menus severely annoys me, and I really can't tell any speed differences.

The fact that Sony decided not to incorporate any Z2 features on to the Z1 means this will be the only Sony phone I purchase. Absolutely ridiculous, I'd expect that if they refreshed their phones every year, but when you do it every 6 months and don't port over any new features - it sucks.

I'm so annoyed. If Sony doesn't fix the overheating issue I will be getting rid of this phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] dinomovil11:
i think sony will be implemented the z2 features with the next update, the reason?? z2 its the new flagship and can't downplay the z2, example the xperia Z gets the new features from z1 with android 4.3 (the second update for the z). sorry my english is bad xD
[Xperia Z1 General] Kussie:
Or maybe they want to wait until after the Z2 is released to port those features backwards. On the other hand Sony has never said the Z1 was getting any of the Z2 features.

As for the overheating, sounds like an issue related to your phone, as mine is running perfectly fine and is not overheating in the slightest.

I am slightly disappointed about the inability to switch to ART though :/
[Xperia Z1 General] augie7107:
Any of these updates come with AOSP browser? If yes, can someone upload apk. I updated C6906 unbranded and only Chrome is installed. I saw stock browser icon in leaked video prior to release so I'm assuming some regions got it. Thanks in advance for checking.
[Xperia Z1 General] JuicyBrah:
I don't like that when selecting files for upload that the Google file manager is default with no option to change it.

I used to be able to upload to tinypic with quickpic through the browser, now I can't since Google's doesn't work and it won't let me use another one.

I don't like that I can't move files onto my SD card using Solid Explorer.

I don't like that flash is gone.

I don't like that it doesn't have ART.

I like the new battery life increase.

I really like immersive mode.

I like the transparent notification bar.
[Xperia Z1 General] ashirokung:
I recommend to clean cashe before using .

Love Air theme live wallpaper abd effect, waiting for port Z2 feature
[Xperia Z1 General] negrobembon:
Immersive mode? Now that i think of it, how do you activate that?

I though maybe chrome had support for it but nothing

As far as my phone is concerned only the movies and album apps have this mode
[Xperia Z1 General] JuicyBrah:
It depends on the app.

Markers, the drawing app, has it, Quickpic has it, Fruit Ninja has it.
[Xperia Z1 General] negrobembon:
OIC

well, I'd expect google would at least include it in some of their apps, chrome at least

I have almost no apps with IM support lol
[Xperia Z1 General] Fenix:
I can't believe that there's no option to use 2G only...
[Xperia Z1 General] PabloProuty:
Amen brother
[Xperia Z1 General] mharckk:
you can disable mobile data
[Xperia Z1 General] Fenix:
Yes but it still switches back and forth from 2G to 3G for voice. And I have low 3G signal at my home which means battery drain for no reason since I am using wifi only....
[Xperia Z1 General] sarsar:
What is ART?
[Xperia Z1 General] Rebel2k:
ART is the new system supposed to replace Dalvik Cache. It's meant to be a bit faster and less battery consuming.

By the way, did anyone notice that we don't have mini-apps anymore when switching to the multitask view? Am I the only one? Accessing to some of the mini apps was a nice feature I think! ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] palkia171993:
I still have smallapps just like 4.3. However, Sony still haven't implemented clear all button in the multitask view.
[Xperia Z1 General] jerdna87:
I have a question regarding KK? Do we get OK Google command and Google now for xperia launcher or is this feature reserved just for nexus?
[Xperia Z1 General] Rebel2k:
Holy crap, that means I have a problem... :( For me, the small apps are not displayed anymore... :( I don't want to wipe everything out...
[Xperia Z1 General] jonmorris:
Yes, sorry I did misread/misunderstand.

I just wish Google would let us decide and allow us to give permission (even if it's followed by a 'are you sure?' question that repeats the implications), and hope that it's brought up at Google I/O by developers and picked up by more of the media.

I bet the vast majority of tech sites haven't got a clue about this.
[Xperia Z1 General] SE Xperia:
Good day everyone

After 4.4.2 update everything is amazing and smooth But I do have 2 issues :

1) battery drain faster :(

2) the lock screen can't be changed what ever I do!!

Do you guy's have any solutions for these problems?!

Thanks in advance.

Sent From My Amazing Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] Rui Oliveira 21:
BTW wich is your firmware update??

and how did you updated your Z1?
[Xperia Z1 General] SE Xperia:
I updated through PCC but I thought it's the ME firmware cause am from Middle east.

Sent From My Amazing Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] plankton:
It has been several hours since the update and it works great.

Except one annoying problem. When I connect the phone to my speakers via Bluetooth, Once trying to adjust the audio volume it appears that nothing happens even if I muted the volume.

Does anyone have this problem ?.
[Xperia Z1 General] cippi21:
Just a lil tip with the status bar if you want to use swipe to change to toggles just drag the bar down and swipe at the top of the bar...I noticed that u can swipe between toggles and notifications by doing this...don't know if anyone posted this already..
[Xperia Z1 General] MisfirGeek:
Just to tell that after a factory reset, battery drain is as good as 4.3.

Envoyé de mon C6903 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia Z1 General] RHBH:
Guys, I use Music Unlimited integrated with Walkman, I have some playlists that I download for offline listening, but this downloads aren't working...

When I go to a playlist it shows: Pending download.... Downloading.... Pending download... Downloading...

And stays on this, anyone with this problem?
[Xperia Z1 General] FranzDages:
A quick update here. The speaker bug has recurred a couple times. I power off, then back on, and it's fixed for a while. I initially thought the battery was draining quicker, though still usable. I was home all last week with no 3g/4g. I am now somewhere where I have LTE, and it has drained from full to about 70% in 13 hours 18 minutes. Still not fabulous, but easily good enough to get me through an entire day.
[Xperia Z1 General] Geoffxx:
as per my previous posts I believe not all apps you may have installed on your phone work with KK - one app caused me major pain until I uninstalled it

everybody needs to check apps if they work with KK - mine didn't