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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] willpower102:
i upgraded to wm5 via tuma v1.3 and it's very slow compared to wm2003. tolerable i guess, but slow. I noticed it seems to have just as many wifi issues as wm2003 and honestly it doesn't look like much has changed.

There are a few nice things about it. Although, since i rely heavily on the wifi, for internet and remote dekstop, I'm thinking of going back to wm2003.

So my question is what are the main reasons you upgraded to wm5?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] _TB_TB_:
Hasn't it been discussed plenty-o-times?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] willpower102:
the only thing i can find is wm5 = stable, slow and wm3 = stable, fast. But with all the problems of these custom roms i can't seem to figure out how it's more stable.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] mandelbort:
Well, the main reason of my upgrade was the persistant storage feature, really important for me!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] _TB_TB_:
willpower, did you extensively test WM5? I've upgraded to WM5 after having my BA for three days, and I'm not going to downgrade.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] fraser:
I'm with mandelbort, I'm about to go abroad for a couple of years and I may find myself far from power now and then. Getting a hard-reset when the battery died was always crazy in my mind.

The main reason why I'm staying (despite several problems) is the WAY better user interface. Simple things like notifications are light years ahead of WM2003 in terms of how you interact with them.

I started out on a Smartphone which has a great UI. Going to WM2003 was a step back, things like contacts and messaging lacked simple options like "reply", "call", "send text". Now on WM5 it's a lot more consistent and the context menus display useful options.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] xplode:
I agree with Fraser about the UI enchasements, but the 2 main reasons for me to upgrade to WM5 were Persistant Storage and improved stability, i have not reset my BA from more than a month (just once to install ivans latest rom)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] TheLastOne:
Honestly, if it wasn't for persistant storage, I wouldn't be using WM5. But I'm the forgetful type, and it was a pain when I accidentaly let my Blue Angel run out of batteries and then had to restore my backups.

The slowness doesn't really bother me that much either. The first Blue Angel WM5 roms were much slower. The guys researching and developing editted roms are doing an excellent job.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
Tuma 1.3 is one of the slowest WM5 roms, this was fixed in 1.4 but that also contains many bugs, so either wait for 1.5 (stable + fast) or try another WM5 version like logouts or Ivans, both of which are much faster.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] _TB_TB_:
Why does everyone forget about ArtZ's ROMs?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Midget_1990:
because i've never heard of it :P, whats it like/based on?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] willpower102:
Three days? Doesn't sound like you tested wm3 too extensively :D

Seriously, when i first asked the question i'd only had the upgrade on their for a couple of days. I've pretty well become used to the speed issue. I'm about to install and try out the other versions of the roms tonight. it's nice to know that i can look forward to an increase in speed. I have noticed things like the notifications working much better. But i still have a couple of questions if i may:

1. The wifi doesn't want to connect to a secured network until after a hard reset. If i take the enryption off the router then it will connect after a soft reset.

[baground info] I was using wm3 with radio 1.12 and having similar connection issues. Then i upgraded to radio 1.15 and had a magnificent increase in the wifi stabiliy. It would always see new connections quickly and never had a problem refreshing or switching. until tuma v1.3 wm5.

Is this a covered issue? i've read alot but haven't found exactly what i need.

2. what is this about persistant storage? From what i've gathered wm5 doesn't loose all your settings and ?more? when the battery drains? I haven't searched yet, because i have to run, but i'll read up on that when i get back.

thanks!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] _TB_TB_:
ArtZ's ROM: http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=48215

I use the absolutely-first version with some tweaks:) In the beginning I've tested Ivan's ROM, but the video recording did not work. I did not try TuMa, cause people kept complaining about its speed (waiting for 1.5, which is supposed to be fast and stable). In ArtZ's ROM everything seems to be working just fine :)

willpower102 - during those three days I had 2 hard-resets (with battery fully charged) :| The MMS function did not work at all (I was unable to create MMS messages), no incomming calls were signaled (0 info on the phone, as if noone tried calling) :| . With WM5 I can do/receive calls, use MMSes, use GPRS, etc :)

Yes, I agree that WM5 is slow comparing to 2k3SE (my friend uses it in his BA and he does not complain; I've been playing with his unit alot - he made me get myself one;) ), but the benefits are quite significant (for me at least - see beginning of my post).
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] _TB_TB_:
And regarding the 'persistent storage' - nothing is lost when the battery dies :) NOTHING (well, except the time settings when you keep the battery dead for too long ;) )
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Here is a list of Note 3 cases that fit with the wireless battery cover.

Please add to this list if you come across other cases that fit.

Updated list as of 3/27/14:

I have tried these cases and can say for sure that they fit:

-Caseology Retro Flex Series

-Poetic Borderline Bumper

-Bear Motion Bumper

I have seen pics and read that these cases fit:

-Diztronic Glossy Clear

-Diztronic Matte Black

-Tech21

-UAG

I have read that these cases fit:

-Mumbi TPU

-Trident Kraken A.M.S.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] vikramdhani:
Will I be as to use the functionality of it once the case is on ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
I've found that the Mumbi TPU case works too.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Yes
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Thank you.

I just read that Tech 21 fits.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jev3gs:
Actually I have the OEM wireless charging cover and just got the Diztronic TPU case and it doesn't fit. I can get 3 of the 4 corners on only. Did you guys stretch out that case or something?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ingenious247:
This is a list of cases you can MAKE fit, but they do not "fit" properly. The Tech21 case at T-Mobile can also be made to fit by force, but none of these options are designed to fit the official wireless back, they're just being stretched/forced to do so.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Bruinzfan:
Belt Clip

I recently purchased the Seidio belt clip made to hold the phone with not case. It works with the Samsung wireless charging back beautifully. It keeps the phone tight to my side so it doesn't catch on any seats. I am retired so the chances of the phone being compromised, (short of my error), is slim. I have the tempered glass screen protector so I feel fairly confident that if I drop it the screen will be fine. I also have the full insurance to fall back on. That said the phone is super sexy without a case so I am HAPPY HAPPY.

:)

Keith
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jev3gs:
OK got it. Well one case that fits without stretching or cutting new holes is the UAG case. I have been using it all week and it has been money. A little force to put on but everything is protected and all the ports are open.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Did you purchase the matte black or the glossy clear? I'm guessing the matte black. I have seen pics posted of the glossy clear and it fit fine with all 4 corners over the screen.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
You are correct in that there are no known cases specifically made to fit the wireless battery cover. That said, some of the cases listed do fit well enough and require no force. I am currently using the Caseology Retro Flex Series and can slip the case on and off effortlessly. All four corners are nice and tight, and lip is raised all around the screen. The bottom lip is slightly less raised than the top and sides - but it is still clearly raised above the screen so you can lay your phone front side down. The fit around the camera lens is slightly raised, so the camera lens is recessed and you can lay your phone back side down. The bumper cases also fit well without having to make them fit with force.

Hopefully a company will make a case specifically for the Note 3 with the wireless battery cover. Until then, if anyone knows of or hears of any other cases that fit, please post them here.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Thank you for sharing.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
Which model of the UAG case? Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
Which Seidio belt clip? Surface? Dilex? Obex? Thank you!
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jev3gs:
I think there is only one kind but I have this one

http://www.urbanarmorgear.com/products/scout-glxn3

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You are right Matte Black.

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Here are some pics showing the fit with the UAG case. The only part that isn't clean is the bottom lip where the home button is. You will see some chrome sticking out. The phone isn't coming out of this case though.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
:good: Thank you much. I will order one from Amazon.de. Might be better than the Mumbi TPU case that I have right now. I get the small bit of chrome showing on the side edge with it and a little on the bottom lip but it doesn't come off either. I just was looking for some alternatives other than this. I appreciate the information!
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Thank you for confirming that the Diztronic black matte does not fit, and for posting pics of the UAG case. How is the feel of the UAG case? Is it hard, smooth, slippery plastic? Or, does it have a rubbery, grippy feel to it? How would you compare the grip to a glossy TPU case, which I feel offers the best grip of any material?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Please see the first post in this thread for the most recent updated list of Note 3 cases that fit with the wireless battery cover. The list will be updated when new info on cases become known.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jev3gs:
So the outside shell is hard plastic. I like the feel better than a glossy Tpu case because the case isn't flat on the back and there are groves your fingers can grab. Also this case is thicker than a convention Tpu case. If fells a lot more sturdy and the material is on the thick side.

Overall I fell very comfortable that this case could take a drop and keep the phone safe, if that is what you want.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jcflood:
I was able to fit an Otterbox defender with the wireless chrging back. I pulled the foam out of the inside of the back plate on the case. It takws quite a bit of work to get the clips to lock in. To put it in the belt clip takes a little extra force and I have to make sure to hear the double click. But now i have great protection and wireless charging.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] stanglifemike:
I completely agree!! I don't have the wireless charging cover, but I do have a 3rd party battery cover. It is THINNER than the wireless charging cover, and my Diztronic TPU does NOT fit properly with this battery cover on! I've wondered how in the world that TPU could possibly fit the wireless charging cover properly, without being forced or stretched! I guess some people just like to "stretch" the truth a bit too. Lol :D

SwiftKey'ed from my White Sprint Note 3 via XDA Premium
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Diztronic makes two TPU cases for the Note 3: black matte and glossy clear. It appears that the black matte does not fit, but the glossy clear does fit. The Diztronic case that jev3gs was referring to in his post is the black matte. Could you please confirm whether your Diztronic case is also black matte? I have seen pics of the Diztronic glossy clear case posted by an owner who says it fits.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] reymond23:
Diztronic black mate with back wireless cover

Sorry for the quality of the pics.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] reymond23:
This is the tech 21 with the wireless battery cover and a glass screen protector.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
Thank you reymond23 for the pics.

1) Just to confirm, are the pics of a Diztronic Matte Black case and a Tech21 case on your Note 3 with a wireless battery cover?

2) Are the cases difficult to put on? Do you have to stretch them or use excessive force put them on, or are they reasonably easy to put on?

3) How is the fit? Are all 4 corners and the lip border raised above the screen?

4) Do the cases stay on, or does part of the case sag off and lose their fit?

Thanks in advance for your replies.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] reymond23:
1)Yes

2)The diztronic case is very easy to put on. For the tech 21 you have to applied a little force to put the last side of the case.

3) In both cases the fit is good, all the corners and the lip border are raised. But in the tech 21 you can see a little part of the bezel in one side, because the fit is not perfect and I have a glass screen protector.

4) Do the cases stay on? Yes

does part of the case sag off and lose their fit? No

I prefer the tech 21, after two falls in concrete from a height of 5 feet my note and the case are as new.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jev3gs:
Strange your Diztronic case fits soo easy. When I try it on mine, it is a tight fight on the Note with the regular back. When I switch to the OEM charging cover it has no chance. I guess they don't make all these cases the same.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Random Select:
My Diztronic TPU case does not fit with the Samsung wireless charging cover. The power button or the volume button gets jammed every single time I try to put it around my phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Bruinzfan:
This is what I found in my search on Am. I don't know if I can mention that here. So I hope I don't get booted. SSGT3AS is the number on the back of the clip. I threw out the box so I cant refer back to that. I'm sorry. I just looked on the Am they claim the model number is HLSSGT3AS.

I am still very happy with it!!

Seidio Spring-Clip Holster for Non-Cased Samsung Galaxy Note 3 - Retail Packaging - Black
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
Thank you! :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] ingenious247:
The Diztronic does not fit, and the Tech21 (while forceable) ruins the fit and leaves a large gap on the back allowing all kinds of dust and dirt to enter under the case.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] reymond23:
My Diztronic fit with a large gap on the back, maybe now they have a new version. The tech 21 have a small gap in comparison with the Diztronic, so right now for me is the better option.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] vikramdhani:
I am looking for the case that will work with the wireless charging else it is useless for me
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
I ended up ordering the UAG from Amazon.de and it is the bomb. Fits pretty near to perfect and I feel like my note 3 is protected. Though the screen guard they send with it is a joke but I already had my tempered glass guard on it so no big deal. Thank you again for letting us know. I recommend anyone with the wireless back to get this. Hands down, worth the price.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jev3gs:
I am glad to hear you like it. Yeah the fit is really good. It does fit really well. That phone isn't coming out of that case without a fight :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] vikramdhani:
I can still charge the phone while the case is still on ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] X12321:
I can confirm that you can charge the phone with the following cases on:

-Caseology Retro Flex Series

-Poetic Borderline Bumper

-Bear Motion Bumper

Hopefully the posters of the other cases can confirm if you can charge the phone with the cases on.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
Yes you can with the Mumbi I had on before and the UAG I just got. They both were no problems with wireless charging.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] vikramdhani:
I am using the bumpers right now and good to know that some cases do work with the wireless charging :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] jev3gs:
Now we need to find a case that supports the wireless charging back and has a kickstand. I really want a kickstand now
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] drae77:
easy fix

I was starting to get irritated not being able to use the case I wanted...when I realized the solution...just pop a flat head in between the two layers of the case, very gently peel the printed circuit off the backing and place on top of the battery so the leads are connected. Took 3 min. and works perfectly with virtually no change in thickness, using the original cover. Hope this helps!
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] steve_togo:
Is there a particualr color that fits or do all the colors fit? The reason i ask is the Diztronic only the glossy fits and the matte black does not. I hope this is not true with UAG. Also how is the overall protection and thickness of this UAG case?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] kamfl610:
I have the Slate Blue UAG case but the UAG case has only one model so any of the colors should work without a problem. The Mumbi TPU case has different colors but I've only tried the one with the big kind of X on the back and it works though you have to stretch it a little. I really like the UAG case and I feel like it can survive a good drop and it's protected. It's just going to feel a little bulky with it on but I've gotten used to it.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] lanwarrior:
If there's a case that fits Note 3 with wireless cover AND have a vertical kick stand, I'll bite.

Unfortunately, there is none. :(
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] vikramdhani:
Does anyone know which is the slimmest case possible for the phone with wireless cover on ?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] Radukk:
TUDIA Melody TPU works out of box.

SPIGEN Bounce needs long break in period but eventually works.

SPIGEN NeoHybrid doesn't fit at all and won't break in easily.

Other bumper type cases just works fine.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] steve_togo:
I bought the original Sammy wireless back and returned it as I cannot use any case with it. I am now using the uag case and man I do love it.... I might think of an insert for the wireless charging as a proper case is important to me as I recently broke the internal digitizer.

Sorry I know my response is not useful as folks here are trying to find a case for the Sammy wireless back.

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I don't understand are you asking to pop of the insert that is sold on Amazon or the original Sammy wireless back.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] a_swangin7:
Confirming Kraken AMS and Poetic Borderline

I can confirm that the Trident Kraken AMS and the Poetic Borderline fit the Note 3 with wireless charging back perfectly with no gaping or pulling at the edges of the cases. I previously used the Trident Cyclops (loved) and was sad to lose the protection in exchange for the ease of wireless charging. The Kraken is quite a bit larger in size but I'm willing to accept it if it keeps my phone in pristine condition! :) I removed the flimsy stock Trident screen protector and use iloome tempered glass.

I can only see using the Poetic case if I needed to bulk down due to carrying a smaller handbag or something ;)

My one complaint is that using the Kraken seems to make the charging mat a little finicky about detecting the phone. It has to be sitting just right or it won't pick it up. I can make it work, though, to have the protection.
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] lanwarrior:
Does this have kickstand?
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] joebongo:
AMS does however it's a metal piece which with my wireless charger I have to slide out for the charging to pick up (wireless only has a 0.5cm range or something).

So I keep the kickstand piece in a pocket in my work bag as that's where I'd use it most.

Joe
[Galaxy Note 3 Accessories] a_swangin7:
Indeed, it does. The Kraken A.M.S. has a substantial metal kickstand, as a matter of fact. I suspect it may be the cause of the issues I have found with the charging mat not sensing the phone if it isn't placed just right. ;)

Be the looks of the stock photos, one might think the kickstand were a grey plastic, but it is, indeed, metal.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] xperia_88:
Does the"Hacker" 7 or 8 kernel that works great with 4.3 can works with 4.4.2 too ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] The Sickness:
Nope

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[General Questions and Answers] golemus:
Can somebody explain to me that why web forms are so much slower on android/ios devices than on windows computer web browsers...?

I am talking about pull-down menus, insert text fields,

For example look at the left side of the following page:

http://www.thomann.de/gb/usb_audio_interfaces.html

Now try to choose a value on all of the pull-down menus with 1. your windows computer, 2. your mobile device

At least for me it is at least twice faster to do this with the windows computer than with cell or tablet. With mobile device there is always some mysterious delay between touching the form element and pull-down menu appearing (or virtual keyboard appearing for input), same thing when you make a choice in pull-down menu there is a delay much longer than clicking a mouse in computer.

How about some flight booking with a cell or tablet (I hate it...):

http://www.skyscanner.fi/

Or filling search fields of a computer shop:

http://www.verkkokauppa.com/fi/catalog/26a/Musiikki#side-search

1. you wouldn't assume that using an interactive web page element would need a lot of resources. What is the reason why it is so much faster on a computer web browser than on a mobile browser...?

2. if I buy a device with a faster sunspider or browsermark result (e.g. snapdragon800 or apple A7) will these form element delays get significantly smaller...?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captn.lolers:
Hi, recently I have observed almost 3GB of Google Play Services usage.

I am reading in many threads that this issue is caused by OTA updates constantly downloading. The only solution reported is to download some application to disable it. However, apparently this causes a wake lock? Also, this is reported in version 4.3. I am on Cataclysm ROM on 4.4, so not sure if the solution would be applicable in this case.

Any help is appreciated.

Thx!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] datallboy:
If you're running a custom ROM, it wouldn't be OTA downloading. If you have high accuracy on for your location settings, something might be trying to access GPS and syncing data.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dakura:
I had enormous data usage with google play store and android services while i was stock, i tried to find the culprit but i couldn't so im at a custom rom until we get an update. I don't have a problem on my custom rom right now (liquidsmooth) they still don't pull back tho, always at the top of my data usage list, google needs to look into that.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] captn.lolers:
So for Google Play Services I have made it only to download in the background, so connected to WIFI.

I believe that this has disabled Push notifications, as Facebook Messenger no longer alerts me to a message.

Any other input would be greatly appreciated.

Thx!