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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
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"Where do you have that setting, can't find it in my version "

The presets are available in v4.2.6 (Pro) and the v4.2.3

Go to "OPTIONS" -> 'EQUALIZER OPTIONS" and you can find it there
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

Sorry, it should read

v4.3 and NOT v4.2.3
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
FOSA,

If you see here; http://www.pocketmind.com/news.htm

It states that PocketMusic Bundle was WM5 compatible as of october 2005.

...but, You are absolutely right that the version has changed, my link points now to a file with version 4.3.

I have now uninstalled my version, and installed that CAB-file. And there seem to be quite some changes;

1. It is aware of language/region on the device (everything is in Norwegian)

2. Lots of new menu options it seems (well that can just be because the Norwegian menus confuses me! :-) )

But for me, A2DP works great with it still, and AVRCP buttons works also, am using it while I write this!

...since the bloody menus are in Norwegian now, I struggle to find the menuoption you mentioned...will fiddle a bit with it and try to find it...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
Duuh, there's a "Language" option in the settings in PocketMusic...and I just changed it to English, and everything looks normal again! Stupid me! :-)

OK, tested preset, and as you said, it does not "remember" the settings after a restart. If I choose "Rock", and restart, it will not be on "Rock" on a restart. Seems like a bug to me, yepp! :-)

I have only used the "bass boost" feature, and THAT it remembers, and therefore have never noticed this issue.

But A2DP and AVRCP works fine for me, also selecting songs from my memmory card (have set it "Load folder contents on start", to my "Music" folder on my memmory card) works fine too, and I have 1.5 GB/3-400 songs in that folder, but that was possibly not what you meant was not working!?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

OK! You're right about the WM5 compatibility

Are you using the QTEK ROM update with A2DP support?

I think my BLUETAKE iPhono mini 450Rx headphone is hard to please as far as AVRCP is concerned.

Anyway, I've removed PocketMusic and use Conduits Pocket Player instead

:D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
Right now I use it with a Norwegain JasJar ROM (AKU2 without A2DP, but enable A2DP with "Tornado A2DP patch"), but until last sathurday I used it with the latest QTEK WWE ROM (the one with PushMail AND A2DP enabled "out-of-the-box").

With Windows Media Player I have had issues with AVRCP, same problem with both my headsets (Motorola HT820 and iTech PROsound), the issue that lot of others have struggeled with. That the Play/resume button seem to only work every-second time, and one has to press play/pause on device every second time, or something like that. Made that button useless for me.

With PocketMusic, AVRCP works exactly as I expected it to work the first time I heard of "AVRCP and A2DP" (for both my headsets)...namely that all buttons works EVERY time, and regardless if JasJar is closed or open, or if it has been closed for a long time...and same behaviour every time I press the same button.

Have no idea why AVRCP with PocketMusic does not work for you...if you need to do a hardreset (heay it happen when one have a Windows Mobile device:-) ), maybe you could test PocketMusic first...it could have something todo with the PocketPlayer plugin!? I mean I heard "a long time ago", that an early version of their AVRCP used some form of "screen scraping"/simulating screen presses, or something!? ...I did not manage to get it to work (think it was in december or something) at that time, and read some posts about it on the web, from others struggling with it too at that time. ...but it can of course be something else...but if you find out, post it, so we get to know the root-cause!

Best of luck!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] hannip:
Yeah, I reported the preset bug to pocketmind a month ago, but I'm like Ronny and just use the bass boost. I've tried several EQ settings, but keep going back to flat with bass boost as the best sound for me.

AVRCP works great for me using PocketMusic 4.2.9 with my Samsung SBH100's.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] taurus_bull2005:
Hi , i need help in installing pocketmusic , i could install only once, Every time i install i get a message in the end as "Pocktemusic installation was unsucessfull at the end of the installation".

Cheers, B
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
Have you gotten past this issue now?

I believe I had same issue when I tried to re-install PocketMusic a week ago or so...and for me I believe it resolved itself after a "uninstall" and a "soft reset"!?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] 8YEight:
Thanks for this topic. Some things just became realy clear for me know :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] evilspice:
only a second of sound

i use the qstarz bt stereo headset (http://www.qstarz.com/products/bh-q392s.aspx) and it works fine for phonecalls, but when i set it for wireless stereo and start a media player (TCPMP, WMP, Pocket Player...) i mostly only get sound for one second and then it shuts up. the players keep playing, the buttons on the headset can pause, resume and change tracks but there is no sound at all.

i get full wireless stereo playback occasionally, but i can't figure out what differs from time to time.

i applied the above patch with no success. anyone has a thought on the matter?

Ariel.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Biffert:
Try this: assuming you have everything switched OFF before you begin. And the headset is paired succesfully

Turn on your bluetooth

wait a few seconds

Turn on your headset

wait a few seconds

Go to BT settings and connect the headset

Enjoy.

This sequence works for me every time :)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] captainsensible2002:
One thing I have tried in conjunction with the previously mentioned lag fix is to also edit:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\WaveDev

And amend Priority256 to 1 (decimal)

This has made things MUCH better (using a BT620s headset)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] evilspice:
thanks for the tips, here's how i managed to get it to work somewhat consistently:

bluetooth settings -> device

click on the headset

refresh the list of services (hands free, wireless stereo, input device) - they will now appear unchecked, regardless of their status prior to refreshing. re-check them, save.

more often than not, it gives me good results.

edit:

i found that by pairing the headset to the universal by pressing and holding the green button on the headset untill the universal recognises (doesn't take long) gives better results.

pairing it by the instructions of the headset (putting it in discover mode, and then searching for a device with the universal) will give me the one second sound almost every time.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
I have been on vacation, so I have not been very active here for a while.

To "evilspice";

yepp I need to do the same thing with my iTechs, I need to "Set as wireless stereo" every time I turn on the headset (every morning typically). I however do not seem to be able to activate the connection from my headset-side...holding in the connect button on the headset turns them off after a second...the play/resume button doesnt do anything (unless I am connected of course)...but I guess my iTechs is behaving slightly different than your headset!?

To everyone else;

It seems the headsets also can influence the amount of lag/gaps/stuttering you get.

That is quite logical when you think about it, since it is a BT radio and antenna in them too (not just the Universal)...so in teory if both the phone/MP3-player AND the headset have a "weak/bad" BT radio/antenna...you get a lot of problems, and if they both are good you would probably have almost no problems with lag-due-to-radio-issues, I would think.

...and I think it is safe to say (from all the posts around this), that the Universal has a farily weak BT radio...so then I would guess it really will have a lot to say if your headset has a "strong" or "weak" BT-radio!?

The "BAD thing" is that I discovered this on my vacation...it seems my Motorola's (HT820) was actually a major reson for my "lag issues". When I went on vacation I brought the Motorola's (since they use same mini-USB cable as my Universal). I had not used the Motorola's since I got the iTechs (some months ago), since I prefered the bass in the iTechs, and the "comfort" of a over-the-head headset, and the loud sound.

I went to the gym in Edinburgh (was in Scottland on vacation), I had lots of lag/gaps...it almost felt like a "flashback" to the first months with A2DP. I tested the iTech when I got home...and they have almost no issues at all with this. The Motorola's work fine if I sit still, and have the Universal fairly close...then I can listen to an hour without any gap (did that last night as a test)...but the moment I walk around..."hello-lag".

I have in other words given people the wrong advice, when I more-or-less recommended the Motorola HT820 in my post.

QUESTION; Do anybody here know ho to setup an "poll" here (is it possible?)?

Would be interesting to run a poll on what A2DP headset people have, and if they have "no lag", "some lag", "lots of lag" or something like that when the headset is lying less than 5 meters away and they move around, but never more than 5 meters and no obstructions between headset/Universal.

Maybe we can find out which headsets are more prone to have this than others...since it seems that this "lag"-issue is what frustrates people the most with A2DP!? ...it sure did for me, until I got my iTechs! :-)[/list]
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] leballer:
Looks like I have about the same spec as you do, JASJAR and ROM. I have downloaded TORNADO and want to install it. It opens up in Winzip, how do I get it from there to my JASJAR? Sorry, I am an amature.

Kind regards
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] elbowz:
I have an i.Tech Clip S35 which I use with my MDA Pro primarily in the car for music.

I have no lag or stuttering and audio quality is surprisingly superior to a wired connection.

However things aren't perfect.

Each time I get back to the car I have to remake the connection, which wasn't a problem with my XDA 2i (shortcut button to bluetooth manager, double click the connection, two seconds and its done) but on WM5 I have to start the wireless manager, hit settings, hit devices and then bring up the context menu and select set as wireless device which is, frankly, more effort than its worth. Surely this can't be right? Am I missing something or is this really how MS thinks it should be done?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
Totally agree elbowz! It is unbelivably cumbersum to reconnect in WM5!

I hope some "smart developer" (I have tried...but is obviously not smart enough :-)) makes some small utillity that makes it possible to map "reconnect to device XXX" to a single hardware button. If I just could press one single button, that would be sooooo nice! ...instead of all the clicking and click-n-hold's I have to do now! :-(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] elbowz:
I've had a look at Mortscript to automate the process, however I'm not entirely sure how I can get the connection to start correctly as its position in the list will change depending on other devices you are paired with...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] NotPortlyNJ:
I've been experimenting w/ Pocket Music (free version) and Pocket Player (evaluation ver) to see if the skipping problems w/ my Motorola HT820's go away. How do you all get the Play/Pause/Next/Prev buttons to work with these players? Neither let me do this. Only WMP allows the use of these buttons. Any suggestions?

BTW, I'm using a T-Mobile MDA. Yes, I see this is posted in the Universal forum, but this post happens to be very informative for other devices.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] kchris:
NOKIA HS-12W

I've problems with my nokia hs-12W :( it has VERY much stuttering.. if it's in the pack on my back I cannot use A2DP because of the stuttering. it has stuttering with only a small obstruction :(.

and: I'm wondering but the normal talking (64kbit/s) has not this effect.. does it have better error correction?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
Hi NotPortlyNJ,

As of version xx.xx (I don't remember which version...think it was around april this year!?) of PocketMusic, the buttons "just work".

I tried to install Pocket Music early this year since I saw somewhere that they supported AVRCP (which is the "Bluetooth profile" that makes it possible to use "skipp/prev", "play/pause/resume"-buttons), but did not get it to work.

Some moths later I downloaded PocketMusic (for some other reason) again for their website, and discovered that the buttons worked...try downloading the latest version from Conduits webpages...it should work without any "settings".
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] monster:
Hi I have just bought an Itech Clip r35. When connected, it's an absolutely fantastic device. However, when I try to connect each time, i can hear screen taps but when i start pocketmusic, i can see the track progressing but no sound. If I switch off bluetooth and start it again a couple of times, it suddenly works.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
Hi Monster,

I don't have that headset...but with my iTech PROsound I sometimes have experienced the same (if I for example have not listened to music for several hours or like that, and both JasJar and iTech's have been on and connected all that time)...I then have quit PocketMusic or Media Player (same behaviour in both players), and chosen Bluetooth Settings/Devices and tap'n'hold on "iTech BluePRO", and chosen "Set as Wireless Stereo". And then it has worked again.

...but your problem seems different...since it happens when you DO have other sounds in the headset!

Someone who have experienced similar problems here, who can help monster?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] monster:
Hi RonnyGydar, many thanks for your help. the funny thing is that I tried playing ringtones etc and the sound only lasts for approximately 1 second, then cuts out. It appears that i can only get one second of sound and then cut out. That's why i can hear screen taps. it's getting harder and harder to get a properly working connection now.

I really would appreciate some help from anyone who has experienced the same and have found any resolutions.

Thanks.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Malan:
I have updated my rom (1.30.97) to enable A2DP, it works, it's in stereo, but the sound is horribly bad... like a 64kpbs MP3...

I tried the tips to improve it (BitPool, SampleRate dwords in the registery...) but there is no improvement at all, it does absolutely nothing.

Anybody got an idea?

I'm using Plantronics 590 headsets, and the sound is much better with the universal bluetooth adaptator...

Thank you
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Keithrg:
Re: NOKIA HS-12W

Ok this could be interesting as I am a complete novice at this..... I have an M5000 with ROM as below and although according to Orange and the helpfile the AKU2 version with this device should support A2DP it clearly doesn't at least by the criteria described in Ronny Gydar's test at the beggining of this post. I also now have a HS-12W headset which I can pair successfully [although the M5k sometimes lists bluetooth devices only as handsfree and sometimes as handsfree and a headset device] and it seems to route calls to the HS12 ok [haven't tested all AVRCP stuff yet]. However the M5k never gives the wireless stereo device option so i'm guessing I should be applying the Tornado patch :!: Any thoughts on that welcome.

I think I would also like to use pocketmusic in place of WMP.

If someone can summarise the best S/F ware versions to get A2DP, AVRCP and pocketmusic working together that would great and any advice to stop me turning my M5k brain dead in the process much appreciated. !
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] kchris:
Re: NOKIA HS-12W

hi!

I'm using the AKU3.2 ROM version. It has full A2DP and AVRCP support. I haven't tried it with pocketmusic but with WMP AVRCP it does work - with TCMP it only has play/stop functionality. The topc about AKU3.2 ROM is in the Uni Upgrade forum.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Malan:
I have noticed that when I decrease the BitPool to 4 for example, the sound quality is very bad, so it works, but when I increase the BitPool to 48 (or up...), the sound quality is the same as default, it seems it's locked at a certain value...

Anyway to unlock this ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

Just to share

I'm using QTEK9000 with the latest A2DP ROM + the lag & stutter patch + BLUETAKE iPhono 450Rx headphone + Conduits Pocket Player equals laggless and stutterless free superior quality music

However, AVRCP doesn't work well...heck...who cares :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

Sorry, should read "laggless and stutterless" instead of "laggless and stutterless free"

Also, AVRCP could be attributed to Conduits Pocket Player's compatibility with my BLUETAKE iPhono mini 450Rx headphone

:D
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

Just tried out Sony Ericsson HBH-DS970 with my QTEK 9000 A2DP ROM - A2DP and AVRCP works flawlessly when tested with Conduits Pocket Player v2.72 with the lid open. With the lid close AVRCP doesn't work. AVRCP doesn't work with Conduits Pocket Player v2.8

Music quality is equivalent to my BLUETAKE iPhono mini 450Rx although DS970 is slightly stronger in bass whilst iPhono is slightly stronger on the treble side. Both sets can response to a wide range of music as tested by Conduits Pocket Player

:lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jwzg:
For any lag issues with the Motorola HT 820's, you can download and install the new firmware found in the thread in the "Accessories" forum. Along with adding the priority256 = 60 key in the registry, this totally eliminated my lag and stutter issues.

I would like to know who benefits from that firmware as well.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

Sorry, I want to make some corrections to my report on SE HBH-DS970 and Conduits Pocket Player

After re-installing and re-testing Conduits Pocket Player v2.8 the AVRCP controls (PLAY/PAUSE/NEXT/PREVIOUS) indeed can work on my QTEK 9000 with its lid both OPEN & CLOSE

:lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] destinysmanchild:
wm5 reconnect with a2dp

Has anyone figured this out? Its drivinhg me crazy
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RonnyGydar:
I've been "away" from the forums...gotten myself an Samsung SGH-i320 Smartphone...a radical step indeed...going from the bulky, but ultra-capable PDA-phone of the JasJar/Universal...to the unbelievably tiny and thin, but still fairly capable Samsung i320.

I bought it, so that I had an "number 2 phone" for going out on the city, when rollerblading, so forth...those moments when an Universal just is to "bulky" and cumbersome to carry.

...and I would never have thought, I actually would "love" this Samsung. It doesn't have WiFi, it doesn't have VGA, it doesn't have 3G, and it has a very small qwerty-keyboard. ...but I still love it!!

A2DP with the Samsung is a bliss compared to the Universal...the problems with stuttering/lag, is really not a problem at all anymore. The BT reception seems a lot better, both for phonecalls and music. I am getting no compains about "scraping" sound when using the headset when speaking on the phone, and the music is "stutterfree" when I walk around with the Samsung in my pantpockets...and the Samsung is of course much more natural to have in the pockets! :-)

This confirms what a lot of people have indicated before...the Universal have a fairly "weak" BT radio.

The Samsung have same issue with re-connect though, meaning, I have to chose "Set as wireless stereo" every time I want to listen to music...but on the Samsung (or more correctly in WM5 Smartphone edition) everything is made for "one hand use", and I can do this fairly easy, by just clicking some buttons in correct order.

I still use my Universal to surf on the web over WiFi at home...but I must admit that the Samsung has become my "daily device". But I only have had it for 2 weeks...so maybe I after a while get the "PocketPC"-urge again, and goes back to the Universal, or buying some other PPC PE! :-)

BTW...there is ONE serious minus with the Samsung...it does not have this fantastic forum...that's something unique with the HTC-devices...the community is just fantastic!!! Will miss it...until I get another HTC device!

...I'll be back! :-)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Samy Merchi:
The original post has a Part 4, which suggests problemsolving models for 4.1: processor power problems. It does not suggest any problemsolving models for 4.2: radio interference problems.

I am hearing the "root cause" and it is clearly radio interference, because when the sound comes back, it is further along the line (not where it cut off). Has anybody had any success with solving radio interference (not processor power) problems?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dansus72:
From what i remember in playing with A2DP in the past is that the big problem with using this service is buffer, stuttering and pausing is caused by a narrow buffer and cuts out as a result.

Low quality sound is hard to fix by adjusting values in reg cos if the headset your using only allows to stream at 64kpbs (usually acc) then thats all your going to get. Streaming stereo effectively is a complex affair for some reason, hence why manufacturers are slow in releasing devices.

The situation is being addressed by headset manufactures by taking advantage of BT 2.0 and larger buffers, the latest devices like the DS970 seem to be leaps and bounds better and i would recommend you only go for a latest gen device.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Nelson Rommy:
Sr how can I download the user guide for I-Mate K.Jam or Qtek9100 and software for installation

Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dsen:
Phone - A2DP - Phone

I have been using the DS970 as well as a Sony-bluetooth-enabled car stereo. It mostly works fine except for one mode:

Say, I am listening to stereo and I get a phone call - the music is muted down and I receive the phone call fine - after the call however A2DP mode does NOT resume. I have to go through a heck of alot of - turning headphone off- turning BT off - turning them both on again - turning pocketmusic off and on....

Anyone experience this? Anyone know a solution?

(Using QTEK 9000, ROM: 1.30.77 WWE, Radio: 1.09.00)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] joe_dude:
dsen, try MortPlayer, music resumes fine on my Prophet, so it might be worth a try.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] hannip:
When you changed the BitPool did you also change the MaxSupportedBitPool setting?