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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] nforsans:
me too, with Mr Clean's TMobile UK ROM

I am using Mr Clean's TMobile UK ROM (2.24.10.1) with radio version 02.25.11 and I have experienced the dropped call /radio reset issue a few times. I do not use any Weather programme, neither do I use any programme that automatically connects to the web/server via GPRS, i.e. I manually check emails when I am not on a call.

Nevertheless, i remember loosing calls and witnessing the radio resetting itself at least on two occasions over the past couple of weeks - for no obvious reasons.

the plot thickens.....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] CameronJ:
Re: me too, with Mr Clean's TMobile UK ROM

Does the radio reset on just about every call around 4 minutes? If so - you have this problem. If not - you have another problem. There's a simple test for this. Make a call - if you make it to 5 minutes, try it again. If you make it, try one more time. If none of those three disconnect at the 4 minute mark than the problem you are having is not related to the one discussed in this thread.

If it does reset at 4 minutes on just about every call, can you please post what apps you have installed.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] nforsans:
I'll try today and post the outcome here
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] beachside:
I have tried a few other programs on this as well... all with the same results. These programs include Tom Tom's Navigator with Traffic updates, emoze, and a few others. It does seem that the problem is most certainly around an application that tries to do a data update while you are on a call or even when you drop out of a coverage area.

I suspect that the OS is seeing there is a problem and perhaps a queue of messages trying to use the data channel. When it has reach some specific point, it forces a reset on the radio in some sort of a self fixing mechanism I assume.

What would be interesting is if there is a way to run a debug trace and see exactly what application or event queue this is filling up. Perhaps a quick fix for this would be to monitor that queue and flush it out. Similar to how the WM2003 message notification bug was hacked around.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Just came accross this thread today by chance, and I just finished reading its 10 pages! :( I was hoping for a solution at alst, but nothing.

I got the Mr. Clean ROM, and Agile installed. I refrain from using Agile nowadays because of the same issue, like my calls disconnects after 3-4 minutes. There are many popups that come from Agile then, and the Radio loses its signal. I eventually need a reset to get the radio back.

Sad not being able to keep Agile on. I wonder if the same problem would happen with MSN Messenger or Imov.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] CameronJ:
The solution (if that's what we can call it) is unfortunately to either stop using the offending application or go back to a pre 2.2 release (most of the 2.17 releases seem to work fine).

As far as MSN or Imov are concerned, I don't remember anyone posting any issues with those.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mobilehavoc:
Not sure if it's been mentioned in this thread but I use Verichat 1.41b with AKU 2.3 and I can leave it running with no issue in the background. My calls last as long as I want them to and when they're over, the client reconnects.

Just an FYI...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Brese:
I am running into this issue also, but I believe the readio stack in ROM is just bad because the failiures are inconsistant. I have found in my situation, soft reset to stop repeated dropped calls.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] wireless_one:
Radio resetting or phone resetting?

I've experienced the call drop situation, but my phone just randomly resets itself, not just the radio. It's been happening more and more frequently. I'm using the custom T-Mobile rom, and that seems to be the only complaint I have. I also use SPB Weather 1.5
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] keitht:
I am so happy I think you have figured this out. I have been going crazy with the dropped call issue as far back as I can remember. I could never keep a voice connection over 15 min. Just so happens my POcket Weather checks for updates every 15 min. I did a hard reset last night and installed no additional apps. I had a good one hour converstation after that with no drop outs! I think Pocket Weather is the problem child for me. How can I get 1.2.2? I really love that app and consider it my fav weather program but I can't handle the dropped call situation and I don't want to change my weather update interval. I read a thread from their site and everyone there seems to think that this is an issue with the AKU 2.x update and not Pocket Weather. I am not sure if I can agree with that yet as I haven't had time to test other apps that do updates every x minutes. Here is the thread:

http://www.sbsh.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=11164

Kyphur: Can you provide me with that version of Pocket Weather you are using? I am a customer and have purchased it.

Thanks!!

Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Saaduk:
Hi people.

My JAMin is also suffering from this AIDS. I tried hard reseting 5 times and refreshed the ROM but no use. I use GPRS a lot. Its connected almost all the time. And no third Party softwares. Just Msn Messenger. Email. Pocket IE.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Strange, as it is supposed to happen when an external app is one, such as Agile Messenger.

Maybe MSN..? Do you launch it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Saaduk:
Hello Prerna,

Well, I don't blame Msn messenger because I used msn from the first day I bought JAMin. it was ok. but since last week I am getting this problem.

I am not sure but this can be hardware fault too because I have dropped this mobile many times.

it actually starts searching for network where the signals are low but available.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Prerna:
Have you read the whole thread? It shows that with these new roms one can experience calls cuts while an application using GPRS is on.

I will try right now using MSN to see if it's the same as for Agile or not.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] aron7awol:
I had originally posted that downgrading to PW 1.2.4 eliminated the problem. That is not the case. The calls drop less frequently, but still drop.

I have now downgraded to an AKU 2.0 ROM (2.21) for further testing. I think a possible solution is to disable the connection manager in PW (which will not allow PW to initiate a GPRS connection if there isn't one already active) and use the GPRS always-on registry tweak. So far in limited testing it seems to have eliminated the issue. I'll check back in with an update in a day or two.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] CameronJ:
My guess is that the 2.0 ROM will work.

Add another offending app to the list: Microsoft Communicator. This is the Microsoft messaging app for LCS servers. If you have a conversation window open - it will disconnect the call. If you are just signed in but not in any conversations the call stays connected.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] keitht:
Hi and thanks for taking the time to test this. I have flashed my ROM so many times I have burned a hole in my phone. I am very interested in knowing if the downgrade resolves the issue and I will definately take the plunge and use the older ROM. Please let us know what you find.

Where can I find the AKU2.0 rom on FTP? I have a QTEK 9100 and I didn't see it listed. I do see a 2.17 but not sure if it support push email?

Keith
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] DoctorT:
I have the newest (official) T-Mobile US ROM (2.26) and so far (3 days) I have never had any dropped call, in spite of using push email, Egress 3.0, PocketWeather 1.3.4, and TinyStocks Stockmanager - all of them automatically updating in different intervalls!

I even tried to take it to extremes with trying to browse the web, sync via AS, and update PocketWeather manually while in a call - but nothing led to a disconnection!!

So it may be hardware specific (different mainboard version etc.) - just my thought... :idea:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] CameronJ:
MDA users have also reported this problem - it is - without a doubt - a ROM/application problem.

I'm not familiar with that ROM (2.26). Is it an AKU2.2+ ROM? The easiest way to tell is if they date/time today screen plugin is on one line, or if you can get the time in the top status bar (as opposed to the worthless battery icon).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jmel:
Cameronj, i think its the very latest (as in days/week) rom from tmobile.

I'll hold judgement until someone loads up agile messenger and fools with it like I did earlier in this thread using that same rom version.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] keitht:
Well I downgraded to the old 2.17 QTEK rom last night and am still having the same call dropout issue with Pocket Weather. I was running the lastest 2.26 TMOBILE rom with the same issue.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
From what I know 2.26 T-Mo ROM is AKU 2.3. Current AKU 2.3 we use comes from the ealirt T-Mo 2.24 beta ROM. 2.26 is the official release ROM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ghozd:
Just wanted to tell.

I also had the problem

Removed PocketWeather and it seems the problem is solved.....

So maybe it has something to do with internetconnection or so....

dunno...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] aron7awol:
After running 2.21 for a few days, I can say the issue is less frequent, but definitely still there. Using an older version of PocketWeather also helps make it less frequent, but does not eliminate it. Using old PW with an AKU 2.0 ROM, it happens very rarely.

When I first got my MDA, I was running PW 1.2.4 on 2.21 (AKU 2.0). I don't recall every noticing calls dropping. It must have been because they don't happen often with that combo.

This is really frustrating, and if it isn't fixed in AKU 2.5 or 3.0, then I will be extremely disappointed with the lack of support from MS/TMobile. I would call dropped calls a major issue, and it's unacceptable to release a ROM to the public as TMobile recently did with this big of an issue. It really shouldn't even take them very long to fix it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] DoctorT:
May be it is not as easy as you think! It may be a hardware specific problem - in a way that just some mainboard versions are affected. I don't have that problem, no matter which ROM version or PocketWeather version etc. I use...

The "automatic" soft reset problem also seemed to be that kind of problem - just some devices have been affected...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] aron7awol:
While it may only affect certain hardware, it is also a software issue. Something changed after AKU 2.0, and got worse with the 2.2/2.3 versions. Also, only certain apps cause the problem. The solution is to either have MS/TMobile fix it in the OS, or have all of the app devs fix it individually.

The idea that is it SIM-related interests me however. I would like to try to get a new SIM, but they want me to pay for it. Is your SIM newer than mine? I got mine 3 years ago.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] DoctorT:
Of course you are also right - it can't be solely hardware related as something changed with updating to the AKU2x ROMs.

And I don't think a new SIM will fix it - my guess was that it is related to the version of the circuit board of the device itself (like the mainboard of a PC) - earlier "versions" of the Wizard (with respect to the production date - of course you can't see any difference from outside...) have slightly other circuits than the newest models...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cluezero23:
I noticed that agile was causing this problem on my phone so I removed it. Now I am having GPRS issues altogether. My Qtek 9100 detects that Edge is available but when I try and use any app that has to access the net the phone just continually tries to connect but never succeeds. When I reset the phone then it starts up with an "x" where the Edge indicator should be. Is anyone else having this problem? :?:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] sk0t:
I've been having issues connecting to EDGE/GPRS for the past couple of weeks in the Detroit area. Seems to be getting better lately, so I figure they're migrating towers and such.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] maswell:
same edge connection problems here. A rest helps, but sometimes the phone just dials a modem number.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] demps:
I'm still suspicious, but I have gone nearly a week without a drop using the tmobile 2.26 rom. I have pocket weather updating every fifteen minutes and I have had calls as long as twenty minutes. I let all the tmobile customizations run (accidentally) but all I had to do was manually enter the cingular gprs settings (I have an 8125) and it was all good. I am not using push mail, but I have qmail set to check mail every 20 minutes. Perhaps a change was made in this rom. If so, maybe our beloved customizers have a new toy to play with.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] demps:
Sounds logical. Hope it works. Thanks for posting this, these droppped calls were driving me nuts.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] ratcom:
ok tried the above and yep it works in a way! I now dont get a 4 minute drop call if only push email is active but agile still crashes the radio ........ so in short I think this is a part fix ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] slimsaturn:
Anybody try this yet? What does it do exactly?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] escrimps:
I had hope for a moment, but I can confirm that the dropping still occurs; at least with Agile Messenger :cry:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] aron7awol:
It seems to solve the PocketWeather drops so far, after limited testing. Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] sk0t:
Hmmm.. If it solved the PocketWeather drops, I may have to perform it and put PW back on.. That's the only app I miss right now..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] keitht:
It did not resolve my incoming call issue when Pocket Weather is updating. When pocket weather is getting an update and someone tries to call me, their call goes directly to voice mail. :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
It is impossible to solve your problem (which is normal) unless you get a new 3G phone. GSM/GPRS is incapable of handle both data and voice at the same time.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] keitht:
Thanks Foxbat... I didn't realize that was a limitation. I guess I have to start saving for a 3G phone now!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
Not all 3G phones are capable of simultanous voice and data

I need to qualify my statement as only to Cingular 3G phone. Unfortunately, there is no 3G smartphone/PDA yet for Cingular.

Verizon or Sprint's EVDO 3G phones have the same limitation as current GPRS phones from what I understand.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kevev:
Ehhhem. I do not believe that a phone droping a call can be classified as "NORMAL". What if I have to call 911? This is a bug. Either Hardware or Software, which leaves HTC or Microsoft Responsible for fixing it. End of conversation!

BTW, I have the latest T-Mobile US 2.26 rom installed. I will try the .cab mentioned above and post my results.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] DoctorT:
From my understanding: to drop a call is definitely a bug and not normal, but to be kind of "unavailable" while you are using the GPRS connection is a problem inherent in the GSM technology and can just be resolved with 3G...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] joshftx:
IMOV

I have same problem when using IMOV messenger too with the latest Cingular update, when I set IMOV to auto-login. Calls drop, radio resets after a few minutes. I also have noticed two more problems lately:

1) When I have direct push turned on, and I activate WIFI and open pocket IE, sometimes the phone will completely lock up. Soft-reset required

2) lately, pocket IE seems to take FOREVER to connect to a website using GPRS/edge (no-wifi). It sits there "locating" for sometimes up to a minute,then will finally start "opening" very slowly. WIFI works fine (except for the above problem #1). Also Opera seems to work smooth. Any ideas?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] sk0t:
Re: IMOV

I've been having the same problems with this lately. I don't think it's ROM related as I have used several different ROM's in the 2.x range, all with this same problem with Cingular. Haven't seen anything about it in their forums as of the last time I was there, which was a couple of weeks ago.

The only thing I haven't tried is a stock ROM with a stock Extended ROM. I blank out the Extended ROM as soon as I put a new firmware on.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] robjae:
Fixed so far

So far no dropped calls after the registry fix. Thank you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
Re: Fixed so far

1 day and counting for me (without a drop)..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] driven01:
The registry fix seems to have really helped the problem for me as well.

I've only had 1 or 2 dropped calls, but that's far fewer than the "every few minutes" that I was getting before.

Now I just get annoying "click clicks" where I used to get dropps.

I'll still stand by my thinking that this is a bug ... but at least we have a reasonable work around.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] slimsaturn:
For all of you using Pocket Weather and wanting version 1.24 so you no longer have disconnects send me a PM i found one and will e-mail it as i received requests.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] beezle:
haveing problem here in US with T-Mobile MDA

I will add this registry setting, though being a newb with MDA I'm confused that it says to set to 0? Most of the other on/off settings I've seen on these boards seem to use 1 to be enabled?

My problems similar to others - while using any internet app phone calls will drop, typically in the 4-6 min range but sometimes less and sometimes more. What is odd (to me) is I had used the putty app to connect to my firewall and set up a dummy shell script to keep the line active. I left it running for nearly 3 hours before calling my home phone number. 4:09 and boom.. dropped call. Perhaps I misunderstood earlier comments but it seems to be more than 'normal' brief losses of the GPRS connection as putty is not tolerant of line drops. Its almost as if using the phone screws up the data connection and then you get both shut off.

Also, there appears to be an existing key "EnableWorkaroundForFTA" .. whats that all about?

cheers
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] damm:
Re: Not all 3G phones are capable of simultanous voice and d

Actually it is quite possible to do a Voice and Data Session Simultaniously, the limitation is with the GSM Radio however.

Has nothing to do with 2.5g or 3g, or 3.5g, or WCDMA, it has everything to do with the radio. The Wizard has a "Class" A Radio, (pardon me as I more then likely am using the wrong words), and a "Class" B radio would required for both active data, and active voice to work.

Some devices however (SE P910) have been able to cut a voice channel off the data session to allow both to work simultaniously, however normally it's just not worth it for them to put in a B Radio.

HTH
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kevev:
Well the .cab file did not work for me T-Mobile 2.26, but keep reading. I installed TRE http://www2r.biglobe.ne.jp/~tascal/ and checked my registry. The string that the cab is supose to create was not created. So the registry is read only. I added the string that this .cab is supose to create(make it a Dword) and closed TRE then held down the power button and selected yes at the prompt for shutdown so the registry info is updated. After reboot checked the registry and the string was there. After 1 week I have had no droped calls. Then only downside of this mod is of corse the one mentioned by the creator. apps the Wizard does not know if the GPRS/EDGE connection has stalled. Easy to fix-->press the radio button and tap the "Data" button on screen and the app you are using should redial the network. This mod is worth it. The developers @ HTC need to add to the radio driver to allow it to detect a voice call in progress and not allow radio resets. 8)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] bcarpman:
After running with the registry change for a while, I haven't had any dropped calls, but I have been getting lock-ups every day or so. This never happened before the mod, and hasn't happened in the two days since I removed it.

Anyone else seeing this? Certainly not a viable fix for me at least.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] joriki:
The reg edit has stopped by pocketweather problems. For the moment I'll assume that the program can now use the setting that that tells it to not interrupt another connection. Now I can update my weather/traffic images every 15 minutes instead of 2 hours without worrying about dropping calls.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] thefunkygibbon:
having just "upgraded" my rom to the mr clean 2.3 to the "new custom 2.26" one i havent actaully made any calls on it to see yet but i was disturbed to see that whilst i was faffing around with the phone last night i saw the radio disabled/reenabled itself (i didnt put it in to flight mode)

i have just checked my registery and i have that gprsworkaround reg hack already in place.

has anyone else experianced this?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] joshftx:
Re: IMOV

This problem seems to have mysteriously disappeared for me. I connect to websites very quickly now. I can only assume this was a Cingular problem, not a phone issue.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] sk0t:
Based on what I've read here and elsewhere, it was a DNS issue with Cingular when using wap.cingular. I'm set ot use OpenDNS servers, which resolved the issue from me. Maybe I'll try the Cingular ones again and see if the issue is resolved here..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] MaoX:
hi, i have this problem.

i have made a hard reset on my 8525 cingular.

i'm Using US radio ROM in Europe (italy) becouse i don't know that there is european (italian?) radio rom.

Where i can find them?

can you suggest me the best one?

THANK YOU!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] acr80:
Rom: i suggest you to use the shaps. They are amazing!

Radio: usually in italy the best are 1.47 or 1.48..

Start from reading the hermes wiki pages.

You can find anything you need!

Bye
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cybiker123:
supposedly the only difference between a 3g and normal 64k sim card is the 3g is for umts and video conferencing although the 3g sim card seems to make a big difference for those of us using more advanced os such as the 2.3 and other aku 2.2 roms and higher that use direct push properly because they allow the data transmission without the interference of voice calls and have the proper programming for data supposedly according to the guy at the cingular store, also alot of people have been transferring the sim cards they have between devices alot and supposedly that messes up the sim card over time by cause static in it
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Panja:
When you go into CALL HISTORY just click on a last called number and you will see the call details.

Make sure you click on the number and not on the icon infront of the number.