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[ONE General] kopower:
I don't even notice the phone's size anymore. I've had a few people comment on the size, but I don't mind. The N5 is definitely the more polished phone though. However, I'm loving the extra battery life of the OPO. I think the camera's are close to a wash, but I seem to take slightly better pics with the N5. Also videos are better on the N5 with the image stabilization.

If the N6 upgrades in a few areas, I'd be all over that. Most importantly size, and battery life, as long as the price is right.
[ONE General] DualSportDad:
Now I'm heading that the nexus 6 will have a 5.9 inch screen, if that's true I'll buy it. I think Motorola makes the best phones and have great battery life. If it has a big screen and great battery life I'm in!

To stay on topic tho, the opo at $349 is a steal!
[ONE General] Wormyfried:
My only dislike for the phone is the crappy vibration motor. It sounds cheap and has an occasional plastic cracking sound on small short vibrations such as typing or while using the nav bar. Im getting OCD about it. Any ideas to deal with it besides turning off vibration? I've even gone to the extent to try looking for replacement parts for the motor itself.
[ONE General] DuckMcQUack:
Hi all,

I just want to share my opinions over our beloved (or better, your beloved) flagship 2014 killer device.

I had been lucky enough to buy the phone out of an invite, so i should really don't blame about this absurd invite-only policy. Anyways, they're just making the hype grow until the components are not high-end spec anymore, so when everyone will have the possibility to buy the device there will be Snapdragon 805 terminals out and the older 801 will be way cheaper for the company.

What i dont like: this thing is big, way too big. I have medium sized hands and this thing is so uncomfortable. I knew about it just out of the box, so if you don't have massive hands you will probably think the same.

Moreover, I have unlocked and rooted my device to be able to use root apps. So far no problem for me, and I thank God about it. Customer support is just a joke, they have said that the phone will not lose warranty if we tweak it and then they do not offer support to people causing havoc to their device. They should have just stated that rooted devices will get out of warranty so to make customers more savvy about causing damage.

Three, camera is non that good as they stated at the start. It does photos full of noise and most of the time white balance is way off.

To add: touchscreen is not working properly. When I tyoe fast ghost touches slow me down a lot. Faults like these are not acceptable. Every good company should delay the launch of their device in front of this kind of issues, and they didn't do it.

I think that's all. At the end of all these evaluations: I wish i had bought a Nexus 5 instead of this.

I will keep it until next Nexus will be out, can't wait to get rid of this thing.

Just my 0.02

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[ONE General] dondavis007:
I really like the opo, just the camera is subpar. It's pretty slow, af is really not good and I started to hate the bloody sound :) Other than the camera it's running in cirkeln around G3, S5 and N5. The only phone this year I give more points is the M8. Having kids the camera on the M8 is alright, it's fast, it do focus like lightning and I rather have a 4mp unblurred pic than a 13mp blurred one.

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Did I mentioned that this is the first phone I didn't have a neeeed to root :)

(I did, but mostly out of boredom a rainy day)
[ONE General] DuckMcQUack:
I have to admit that I'm quite happy with stock cm room but rooting is essential to make an android phone run smoothly imho. Greenify is not a thing that you can pass on due to its enormous impact over battery life and performances

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[ONE General] Radixtrator:
Yes this probably the worst thing while normal use. I compared it with an HTC One M7 and my god it is such a huge difference
[ONE General] dondavis007:
I just went stock. I think I have good enough battery ?. On my G3 I mostly turned everything off, but that's because the darn thing never have enough soup. On the opo, it's the opposite, it survive the day through.
[ONE General] StrizzMatik:
From somebody who owned the Nexus 5 since launch, I've had this phone for about a week and it straight blows away the Nexus 5 in almost every category. No yellow banding, no real bugs yet. Couldn't be happier
[ONE General] GeddoN:
I sold my OnePlus One and I'm using my Nexus 5 again.

Reasons:

- yellow band

- grounding issue (every OPO has it)

- vibration motor

- touch screen isn't so responsive as the Nexus 5 touch screen

- poor support

- poor reception

- too big

The OPO is better than the Nexus 5 in following aspects:

- better battery life

- better and louder speaker

- more internal storage

- better front camera
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
I was on N4, it was too slow and insufficient storage, then heard of the OPO. It's availability was too late for my urgency so I then bought a N5. I then got the OPO on the basis I could sell the OPO if don't like (probably at a profit) or the N5 (at a small loss on Swappa they sell for about $50 less than I paid new on an ebay daily deal.

I've bought 3 OPO none had this problem. I know of 1 person who has but says is is mild. Bad luck to you.

What's this?

It is good enough for me.

I agree but is slight and you adjust to it easily enough (I did) it is barely worth mentioning.

We all knew this in advance, it is a risk of this company's support model and the way they choose to run their business. It has to be balanced with the price. Also I see you had all these issues so you were hitting the support issue. I've had no issues with the handset so I never needed to stress the support.

I had no issues. I ran the N5 and OPO side by side and when one got a weak signal, so did the other so I knew to not unfairly blame the OPO. You might have had a bad unit, or you were unfair, can't tell.

This is also known in advance, a bit of cardboard can answer it. I also knew this in advance and thought I would try it to see how much of an issue and then keep/sell. I still find this the outstanding only real issue which worsens the OPO. I don't know exactly what to do about it as there are positives to the OPO. I did not sell my N5, it has cascaded down to my wife but it is over-spec for her needs so I can buy something else and reclaim the N5. I am looking out for a deal on a new 16GB N5 to give my wife, reclaim the 32GB N5 as my daily driver. I will probably keep the OPO but use it only on about 10-20% of my days. It is good to have a spare phone in the family anyway we moved up to 4 smartphone family from a 1 smartphone family progressively so probably we should have a spare now. The spare in a drawer can be the OPO, used as a mini-tablet in the house for example, might allow a N7 to be sold.

Agreed, but the N5 on the days I was moving and using I'd have a slim USB battery which doubled life and was perfectly fine so not a deal-breaker for me.

Possibly once but tweaked vs tweaked both now sound similar loud, the OPO has a better base than the N5. I'd say hence overall a margin positive to the OPO.

Agreed.

I never use anyway in fact I've never used so don't know.

Overall I did correct to not sell a N5 but to keep it til I concluded what role is the OPO (keep, sell, spare, etc).

Those who say N5 is best and those who say OPO is best are both wrong, it is more of a fit for a user. I am very glad both exist and I am hoping the OPO's existence drives down N5 pricing - I've not really seen it yet, the new price has not really dropped from $385, best I saw was $375, and the used prices not really dropping still around $330 for mint (to negotiate down from). The N5 remains stubbornly high price. It needs a price drop and hope the OPO acts to make than happen soon as I'd like to buy a N5 16GB for my wife and reclaim the N5 32GB.
[ONE General] Nomelas:
I haven't held any other phone like it, and I love it. It's an amazing phone and the price is unbeatable. It has its quirks but so does any other phone out there and there truely is no "perfect" phone but this one comes close.
[ONE General] DeoreDX:
Finally got my invite, but now I'm not sure I want one. I do have an HTC M8, I love my M8. Wife could use a new phone, her M7 is getting long in the tooth. I would get the OPO and she would get my M8. Months of watching the invite system and watching the stupid contests and complaints about customer service and phone issues have me doubting wanting to buy one now. Have until 3am to decide.
[ONE General] DualSportDad:
You can't beat it for the price. I think it's a good phone. My biggest gripe is the signal is a bit low but hopefully a new radio update will fix that in the future.
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
What are your priorities in order? Perhaps we can help? Don't have M8 but have OPO. I don't love it but appreciate its strengths so hopefully even-handed.
[ONE General] DeoreDX:
I've been installing custom ROMs from XDA since the days of my T-Mobile MDA, but I've gotten to the point there I just enjoy phones that work well enough I don't have to read XDA for hours at a time to keep up with the latest custom ROMs. My last two phones, the Note 2 and the M8 worked well enough out of the box I never bothered rooting, S-Off, custom ROMs, etc. I do enjoy customizing my phone though, normally with custom launchers, gestures, icons, etc. CM has always been perfect for me for the reason of customizations. Now that I have a kid I would much rather spend my afternoons with him instead of downloading and keeping up with Cm nightlies. I'm not a gamer, besides maybe little candy crush or Simpsons Tapped out. Mostly just Gchat, Tapatalk, and Chrome on my phone. Performance wise the OPO will be more than enough for my needs. I worry more about reliability, having to chase down poor customer service, waiting on OTA's to fix bugs that make the phone a PITA to use. My M8 has been extremely dependable, battery life is great, wonderful build quality, a rock solid device. But I do love new phones, most phones have a shelf life of around 6-9 months for me (except for my Note 2 and HD2). The OPO does have a decidedly high geek factor too it. Who the hell am I kidding I'm going to buy the phone. If I don't like it you will see it on Swappa. If I do like it you will see my wife's M7 on Swappa instead while she gets my M8 :good:
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
Unreliability is high, get what you pay for. Mine has few bugs, none so much I'd want to sell it for its bugs.

Wise so long as you don't have expectations who saw "flagship killer" and duh thought it true. You get what you pay for.

Mine's fine on reliability, but I'm not expecting much. I use my phone as a phone and don't little tweaking, its defaults everything mostly. I turned off those gimmick double-tap-to-wake things which would ruin battery life anyway without a perfect software (and its not perfect hence).

The 64GB part I'm enjoying. I was squeezed into nexus 4 for 18 months, I got a used one for my daughter yesterday yuk. Who the hell makes 16GB phones now.
[ONE General] Radixtrator:
I left the M8 for the OPO and don't regret it. The screen is awesome, camera is way better, battery life is a lot better and I enjoy stock android a hell of a lot better than sense
[ONE General] kaynpayn:
This. Very much this. The touchscreen part is what annoys me the most. It REALLY sucks compared to just about anything else I've tried. This happens mostly when the phone is standing on a table and you try anything multi-touch. Just works erratically. They say its a grounding problem and can't be corrected with software. Ive opened a ticket with opo. They haven't said anything yet. They do say they're rather swamped so I should expect them to take their time.

Haven't really tried the camera much. Tried a couple of snaps, came out blurred, thought nothing much of it since they were taken on low light. Also, its a phone, if I wanted anything with good quality I'd use a proper camera. Else, most phone pics end up online on some facebook alike that will compress and make them look like crap anyway.

Also found the screen issues while typing are much less if I swipe with a different keyboard. Using Swype at the moment and it works MUCH better than the default one. Responds quicker and I almost never get stuff wrong. I usually type a lot without looking at my screen. With default's I used to end up with a mess of letters. Now It almost never happens. I don't use autocorrect either.

Have a very slight yellow tint near the bottom of the screen. Totally harmless and very unnoticeable, actually.

Phone is huge. I knew that beforehand. Was a bit overwhelmed anyway on how big it is. More that I'd like but won't complain. I definitely knew this was most likely an issue I'd agree to accept.

On the good side, the phone is huge! For screen viewing purposes it's awesome. I watch movies alot. Btw hardware decoding crashes bs and mx player. When it doesn't, phone heats up a lot. No issues in soft decoding but my s3 ran cooler with hard decoding.

The battery, omg yes! The bat is brilliant. 2 days easy. Here I am, 10h and 30mins in and 70% remaining with a moderate day's usage. Never had a smartphone doing anything near.

Cm11s has some very cool tweaks too. I really like the double tap to wake and sleep is awesome. I can't not use it now. Switched for a bit to my s3 and found myself knocking the screen like a retard everything fully aware it wouldn't work. I don't find it a battery drainer.

Just my thoughts. Will look into selling it if I like the n6 and the screen issue isn't solved in some way.
[ONE General] DuckMcQUack:
It seems that we share the same thoughts.

Anyways. Touchscreen issue (not the grounding one but the problem with ghost touches) is going to get fixed by a large amount with the next OTA (not fully but it will low drastically).

N6 should be motorola with a 5.2 inches screen. If that will be the case, bye bye OPO.
[ONE General] Vortex1969:
Touchscreen firmware is already fix on custom ROMs. Plus there a lot more stable then stock cm. The devs do better work than CM.
[ONE General] srikat:
You do realise that the fixes are taken from CM nightlies, right?
[ONE General] Vortex1969:
Yes I do I built the kernel an hour after they updated there git to test it. But I don't see a new stock rom ota. That is my point. And there was other code fixed by devs not cm.

And when cm does update there code to fix something you can be using it the next day on a custom ROM. Not weeks later.
[ONE General] force70:
Lol....people actually pay for invites?

Now that right there is funny.

sent from Canada via my Note 3, Note 2 or One X +
[ONE General] Budgiemanr33gtr:
Was worth a try XD How do I get give it out anyway?
[ONE General] selayan:
I really liked the opo a lot but I had to send it back for a refund. The yellowness on my unit was pretty bad and always there when reading something on light background.

Tried sunlight and UV lamp that did nothing. Customer service barely exists too. The whole approval process to even submit a ticket and get a cut and paste response took 3 weeks. This doesn't include how long it may take for my money to come back.

So if you get a good unit, then you are lucky and hopefully you never need to contact CS.
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
I think that point is not impacting whether you buy or not but how you fund the purchase. Buy the OPO if its dud swap/sell, but keep your current phone.

Its those people who sell their existing phone to fund the OPO are really being exposed.

I think for $360 delivered "why not" comes to mind - I bought 3 OPO no issues, no yellow band no software issues, no real complaints. Others had a much worse story.

In our family we added used Nexus 4 as our spare, its good-enough to be a fallback phone for few weeks. Got one used $100 and its got a couple of screen imperfections but otherwise good enough for its purpose.

It is the rank idiot who believes OPO hype and expects perfection and funds OPO purchase through selling a good phone leaving themselves exposed. I also think folks who can carry the cost of owning 2 phones,the OPO's specs and performance is very worthwhile considering purchase, either to prove the OPO works and then sell or own multiple for different roles.
[ONE General] selayan:
Before I sent my opo back I still was using my Verizon m7 which I'm pretty fond of too. Good thing I did that to test the opo before leaving Verizon and putting the opo on another carrier. I learned about the yellow band after I placed my order so i kept two phones.

I'll keep watch on the forums there to see if things change in a couple of months. If it can be seen that less people get models that weren't as bad as mine I may order another opo. Otherwise I will just wait for the nexus 6.
[ONE General] damage98:
I love this phone. So much better sound over Bluetooth to my car and home audio than nexus 5. Sounds crisper and tighter bass with music fx off than the nexus with vfx.

Awesome screen. I use on screen buttons so if there's a yellow band I can't see it.

Don't let the battery go dead... ;)
[ONE General] jlevy73:
That's really well said, good points all around.
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
I just popped in a A&T SIM into a used Nexus 4 off ebay, and really..... they need to make N4 size phones more, with the battery life and storage of the OPO.

Just give a choice of screen size.

I like everything about OPO apart from its plain stupidly too big. I wonder if they had to make it so big to keep costs down and put in the battery? LG G3 is physically smaller phone and they fit inside a removable battery and SD slot and wireless charging, wonder if OPO needed t make it bigger to make it easier hence cheaper? Very very few actually want a phone this big.

From speaking with real people away from forums, >90% don't like the OPO's size. It is a stretch to get people to even like the N5, which is right up there at the maximum size for most people.

N4 is about the size phones should be. Tablets exist which do big screen better than a phone and drain the big screen battery but leave you still with a working phone.

Not saying the N4 is a good phone, its got poor display and poor camera, just saying the hand-size.

I'm wondering if the big screen is a macho thing? Guys seem to like it more than gals. Or "if I'm going to pay this much I want it big"?

These aren't my opinions, I'm speaking the silent majority who never even heard of XDA forums.
[ONE General] barondebxl:
Honestly I have zero complaints about the OPO, not even the yellow tint that I have cause it does not bother me one bit.

- Battery life is above average, pretty good.

- Performance is very good.

- Software support is excellent

- design is nice

- Specs are top notch

- signal reception is pretty good for me in the DMV area

- Display is nice and big. Come to think of it I have one complaint actually, I wish the display was a little more visible outdoor. It's not bad but after having used the S5 and M8 it's definitely not as good.

- 64GB of storage is so cool

- All that for $350? No one can complaint really.
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
Agreed, the N5 on max brightness vs OPO at max brightness, the OPO is very difficult to see in direct sunshine I have to shade the screen, vs the N5 is actually visible.

Is that a limit of the LCD or a limit they set in software?

I have N4, N5, OPO side by side here in sunny California and I'd say the OPO screen crispness and brightness is about the same,slightly better, than the N4 and not as crisp or bright as N5. The brightness aspect is more important than crispness.

Agreed.:good:
[ONE General] planoman:
Look at all of the flagships: S5, M8, G3, Z2, Note, they are all way bigger than the N4. The N4 was too small and thick. The OPO is big but will be easy for most to adapt to, I thought it would be bigger and heavier when viewed in pictures and you tube. I really like the screen better than the G3. The G3 is a 5.5 inch screen and smaller but not really that much smaller and mainly because the OPO gives you capacitive buttons also. It is still hard to operate one handed. Once you get past the size of the Nexus 5 using a device one handed becomes difficult unless you have larger than average hands.

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/On...nes/OnePlus-One_id8603/size/LG-G3/phones/8347

I mean even the iPhone is going 4.7 and 5.5 from 4 inches. Phones are getting larger because of the masses and not people on XDA.
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
When you discuss with real people away from online forums what do they say?

I did, do, and pass on here what they say.
[ONE General] planoman:
I also travel a bit and see tons of S5, Notes being used by females. Have you seen the size of handbags these days? They could carry a macbook pro in those bags.
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
Can they text whilst walking holding a coffee or umbrella or whilst riding a bike?

Also I'm am talking about % of population not the subset you've noticed.

I agree that getting bigger from 4" to 5" increased appeal but beyond that is narrowing the population who prefer.

Bigger phones is about having AN answer to the small <10% who want one, it is NOT about they being THE answer for all.

I suspect the coversation inside phone designer's head goes something like this:

need LTE

need at least 3000mah battery

need fast cpu

need a wide area to spread heat

given choice of smaller screen with thicker, or larger screen with thinner, I can probably sell at higher margin with the latter
[ONE General] planoman:
You are probably right. I think the battery capacity of android is what drove the larger screen sizes. Android is a power sucking OS and needed bigger sizes to satisfy the all day use issue. The HTC M8 for windows has the exact same specs as it's android counterpart and the battery lasts almost twice as long or way more than a day which is the high water mark for android.

I think you are saying a small minority want bigger screens and I say the opposite. I say they (masses) are the ones driving the demand for larger screens and also why tablet sales have leveled off or are declining. I am not in the marketing department for mobile devices so I do not know and defer to their expertise. Based on the sales and dimensions of the flagships it looks like bigger is better. I think those that want a Nexus 4 sized device are the minority.
[ONE General] damage98:
An awesome camera as well.
[ONE General] nigelhealy:
So there are different market segments and each has a different optimum. The market is so huge there is room for all types to be succesful. So room for all these sizes to be a response to each each segment.

The OPO's size and similar sized phone works well in at least these segments

Those who are sat down not moving so can use both hands

Those who are budget limited and it is cheaper to own one big phone than one small phone and a tablet.

Those who also not budget limited at all and want one of everything

Those who are moving prefer a bigger phone to swapping between phone and tablet

The size though is a problem for:

One handed operation which covers walking whilst needing other hand (coffee, bag, umbrella, bike riding, etc)

Pockets

The bigger the phone the more likely it is to fall and if it falls the more likely it is to break

I've used my OPO as daily driver now for 4 weeks the size is the only offputting aspect but there are times it is better.

Also I don't think Andoid is power hungry, it is the apps people run, such as games and 4G media streaming. If Ijust use mine for talking and the odd checking of emails it lasts 2 days.

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looks blurred :o
[ONE General] adibeckett:
I've read somewhere maybe on gsmarena where those in "emerging markets" like in Asia are driving the demand for phablets. No need to buy a tablet, when you can just buy a bigger phone.
[ONE General] damage98:
Hand held at dusk during a thunderstorm so yeah. I would be surprised if it wasn't. I don't pixel peep.