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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
Buying from an individual is different to buying from a business. I am not a business seller on ebay, I don't claim to be and this is done in my spare time - this transaction wasn't even done on ebay. After payment is received title to the property is transferred to the buyer. They have also purchased the delivery service - I am merely acting as their agent - and as I have previously emailed to the buyer I have inquired at the local sorting office and they say the item is with USPS and the claim is through the recipient with them.

The figures you quote for performance are out of date by at least 2 yrs and do not reflect the reality of my local sorting office! The only items that can be tracked for this purpose are recorded / special delivery items and those sent as part of postwatch's regulatory testing. It is from the compensation payout claims versus items sent for recorded that I quote figures.

You receive cheques? I'll have to speak to the company who post my items. They get the claims paid as stamps as they handle the claim on my behalf.

Richard
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] auctionboy:
Hi again fluffcat1

Ok, you say my figures are out of date, please quote the newer figures and your references for them.

As for "I am not a business seller on ebay", yes you are regardless of what you think. I simply haven't the time to go through all your auctions but on a quick check of eBay between the 21st and 30th of May you sold £1154.66 of goods. That is a business seller. If that is an indicator of your yearly sales with you already admitting you also sell off eBay, you might even be heading towards VAT registration limits. Inland Revenue, Customs and Excise and the small claims court would consider you a business seller!!

"After payment is received title to the property is transferred to the buyer. They have also purchased the delivery service - I am merely acting as their agent", anybody reading this should be concerned about your commitment to your customer service, and it is complete and utter bull****. Did you tell him you were only an "agent"?

As for "I have inquired at the local sorting office and they say the item is with USPS and the claim is through the recipient with them", I disagree. Royal Mail is your agent and you paid them to deliver the item. It is not your concern or problem that Royal Mail had to pass the item onto USPS who subsequently lost it.

David.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] auctionboy:
Actually you replied earlier "My ebay feedback of 1700+ should speak for itself. I'm really going to try and rip someone off over £25 with a turnover of £6k p/m..... ", if you are turning over 6k a month that is 72k a year which is 11k over the VAT registration threshold. How can you still claim "I am not a business seller on ebay, I don't claim to be and this is done in my spare time"?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
Shame you can't check my sales in the 2 months before april every year - they tend to stop just for that very reason.

Richard
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] xandermac:
Cant this be handled privately from this point on. It seem that Fluffcat and the buyer have agreed on a course of action and auctionboy throwing himself into the mix just to bicker isn't helping in the least. Reading through this thread I would buy from Fluffcat as he seems to want to do the right thing, but auctionboy on the other hand, he just seems to want to drag this out..
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] auctionboy:
To be honest xandermac, I haven't got time for this. I came accross this thread totally by accident but couldn't resist taking fluffcat1 up on some of his points. To me they should get on with it but the ball is in fluffcat1's court. To me he should either refund or send the items again. Having said that the thread title is way over the top in the first place too.

I think I raised some valid points like did the customer know it was going surface and the fact that the customer should not be left to sort it out. Nobody seems to be pointing out fluffcat1 is behaving badly. Instead we are getting ra ra cheerleaders pointing out how good he is (surely my points are as valid as theirs). Talking crap like "They have also purchased the delivery service - I am merely acting as their agent", he isn't convincing me he is a beacon of good practice.

He needs to get a grip when he is so exposed on eBay. Angry customers can be very vengful, a good feedback rating can be ruined by a few throwaway ID's setup specifically to leave negatives. It also isn't a good idea to come on a public forum letting the world know you are doing 6k a month while not coinsidering yourself a business. If he only did 6k a year buying to sell for a profit, he is considered a business. I wonder if all would be so supportive of him if he was PC World saying "we are only an agent"
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] concep86:
What have we agreed upon...

After all this ****... and a ton of emails... I still do not have my items....

SO... the only thing that has been agreed upon is that Fluff is not doing **** to resolve this issue...

He still has not told me when he mailed the items... and the tracking number he gave me is not a valid one... I looked it up on their site and it comes back with nothing...

SO ... NO .... The only one making out here is fluff... who has my cash and the items...

THIS Sucks... and could have been resolved with a simple email from fluff to me...

I dont know how fluff stays in business, if he cant simpley email the buyer some simple info ....

I buy all the time and have never been told by the seller that he did not have time to email me the tracking info...

That is all I am going to say on this issue....
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] concep86:
FYI to everyone reading... I was never offered any shipping options... I emailed Fluffcat and asked how much for the camera including shipping and HE told me 25GBP... he never stated any options... and ignorantly I never asked for any...

I apologize to everyone that has stumbled into the thread... but I felt helpless... as Fluffcat never answered my emails....

Try looking at it from my point of view... I paid for something... never received it and never received a courtesy email telling me when the item was shipped...

bad business.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
As of today, and from the beginning of this thread,

NO PM's received

NO EMAILS received

NO EBAY QUESTIONS received...

I'll scan the proof of postage and attach it later...

Richard
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] concep86:
You have some serious balls...

Why should I do anything at this point....

The reason we are at this point is because I made all the attempts at communicating with you... YOU DID NOTHING... other than take my money.

Funny, I made 3 purchases since this one... on Ebay. and requested a simple email... telling me that the item was shipped... and I received an email after each one... that is professionalism...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] auctionboy:
Hi Fluffy

In response to "After payment is received title to the property is transferred to the buyer", you are lying again which seems to be a trend here.

Sale of Goods Act as amended by the Sale and Supply of Goods to

Consumers Regulations 2002.

Section 20 Passing of risk

(4) In a case where the buyer deals as consumer... the goods remain

at the seller's risk until they are delivered to the consumer.

Why don't you just refund the guy and stop being an arsehole?

concep86 - I don't think you are going to get anywhere with this guy. I would suggest you contact his local trading standards and make a complaint against him. I appreciate you are in the states but if you let me know what town he is in I will dig out their number for you. I would point them to this post and give details of how he admits to turning over 6k a month but "isn't a business". Also, if he "isn't a business" I wonder if he is declaring his income to Inland Revenue. He may well be and I am not in any position to know but then again, he might not??

xandermac:

"through this thread I would buy from Fluffcat as he seems to want to do the right thing", can you point this out please? All I have seen so far are lies about not being a business, lies about title passing to the buyer, posts an Internation Signed for number that has no details against it and has not once offered a solution! If you "would buy from Fluffcat" what does it take to put you off?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] xandermac:
First of all, we're dealing with the USPS here. I live in Atlanta GA, my mother lives in Chipping Sodbury UK. She sent me a letter almost 4 weeks ago that I have yet to recieve.

Second, a USPS tracking number is not a tracking number at all, it's a delivery confirmation number that's only updated when the parcel is delivered and not until then... It seems a USPS delivery confirmation number was provided which says to me that the package was shipped. Now it's a matter of hurry up and wait for the USPS.

Third, Buyer Beware... It's the responsibility of the buyer to pay for insurance on the package, not the seller. If the package gets lost or broken in transit the seller has no responsibility or obligation to reimburse the buyer if the buyer did not pay for insurance.. NEVER use ground mail for overseas delivery. The buyer should always opt for an Insured courier service.. US law provides no buyer protection beyond the limited warranty.

I understand that the buyer is upset, and rightly so. but slandering (I suppose technically Libeling) someone in a public venue may not be the best course of action, and possible threats of retaliation against him by you may not be the wisest thing either.

I imagine the package will arrive and all this will blow over, but under US law the seller would have an excellent civil case for retribution.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
@fluffcat1

NO PM's received

NO EMAILS received

NO EBAY QUESTIONS received...

where is my 5 connector?

My paypal mail is melbourne70@gmail.com

Do you want verify?

Tanks
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] HDuser:
fluffcat1

Look this is a forum, solve your issues it does you no good to have this thread running.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] vbJoe:
Nah!! let them keep at it, makes a dam good read on a friday afternoon :-)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
Oh this is fun!

As I have previously replied to your email ( and via your paypal complaint that was refused as I have proof of postage )

1st batch paid for via ebay sent 23 march ref RI 7207 8647 0GB

2nd batch paid for directly 25 april sent 26th april ref RI 7312 6641 3GB

looks like it's going to be UK sales only pretty soon for me :roll:

Richard
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
Beloved sig. Perhaps Richard,

you forgets that I have not received nothing, perhaps she forgets that only it can ask the reimbursement from the mail, perhaps she believes that people are stupid not to understand when a person brails up, paypal ask only a copy for the receipt, she originates them to it ALWAYS remain and HOWEVER to the person whom she sends like valid test. It sure will be called to show the test of happened shipment, in court and I will demonstrate that it is denying my right to me to having a reimbursement for the goods never received.

It is calm, I am already obtaining the better thing, to make to see that dishonest and strafottente person is she. In court I will have other satisfactions.

I add:

it must have shame with this behavior with the customers.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] newbie2:
As an employee of the USPS, I can verify all of the above statements.

There are only two ways to provide tracking information on International shipments. One is by Registered Mail, which provides TOP-LEVEL security for the item. Each person that handles that particular piece of mail has to sign off on it -- all the way from the point of mailing to the point of delivery. And you can be assured that if a piece of Registered Mail turns up missing, someone's head is gonna' roll. I've seen it happen.

The other option is Global Express Mail. It provides a true "tracking number" that can be tracked from point to point all the way from the office of mailing to the address of delivery.

Of course, insurance is OPTIONAL for both methods. Some sellers mandate the insurance coverage, others do not. However, most eBay auctions I've seen offer the option for the buyer to purchase insurance. If the buyer does NOT exercise that option, then there is no legal recourse -- either against the seller (who has proof that the item was mailed), NOR against the USPS for the loss/damage of the item(s) shipped.

The USPS actually conceived and implemented the Delivery Confirmation Service in response to a plethora of claims and inquiries from buyers not receiving the goods they purchased. However, the Delivery Confirmation Service is NOT available on International Mail originating here in the USA. Again, the only methods of tracking an International mailpiece going OUT OF the US is the Registered Mail, or the Global Express Mail.

I don't know what the provisions are as far as U.K.'s Royal Mail on providing a tracking number, but the above are the only two ways to "track" a package leaving the US.

Because of the snafu's I've seen in International Mail shipments, I no longer accept bids on Ebay from buyers outside the US myself. It's just too much of a hassle to deal with. :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] kevino:
Titanich, you're probably correct or not !!! :? :?

Whatever happened to concep86, it looked like this thread was going to run and run. :D
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
Can anyone translate for Titanich please? :lol:

As I posted previously in the other thread they posted the comment in:

"Yawn. boring. I posted the item, it tracks as being handed to the Italian post office who have lost it, you tried to make a false paypal claim against me without giving me time to contact the post office AND YOU LOST.

In defending that claim, I had to send my proof into paypal and now cannot claim from the post office for the loss, as paypal have not sent the proof back. The post office will not accept my copies that I made, so this is YOUR FAULT for making the false claim!

I'll attach screendumps if anyone's really bothered?....

Thought not.

Richard"

to re-iterate - you filed the paypal claim BEFORE asking me to claim with the royalmail, so I had to send my proof of postage to their address. I kept copies, however they insisted the originals be sent to:

PayPal (Europe) Limited (Seller protection)

Hotham House

1 Heron Square

Richmond Upon Thames

TW9 1EJ

So now I cannot claim from the royalmail at all and it is YOUR FAULT for making the paypal claim.

Every spam post you make I will simply paste this reply.

Richard
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
thanks.... newbie2

the problem is that the package has been sent but never has not arrived. It that he has the test only can ask the reimbursement. If the package does not arrive to me he is he that I must reimburse, luii in its turn will make oneself to reimburse from the mail.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
No, you tried that through paypal and they wouldn't re-imburse you would they?.....you claim was denied.

Because you went to them and not me first I now cannot claim from the royalmail as I had to defend myself against your claim with paypal. Not that I'd help you anyway after all this. You have brought this situation on yourself. I suggest you read paypal's terms and conditions - they are happy that I took all possible steps and acted in accordance with their user agreement - your claim failed and you will struggle to take me to court in another country....

Richard
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
It says the false one! I have opened one controversy with paypal after 60 days. Paypal has it sluice why the maximum time in order to make claim is 45 days. Paypal has not granted the reimbursement to me why the terms were expired. Paypal could not ask originates it them of the receipt for a reimbursement that did not have to emit. I have forwarded to paypal the controversy why it has not never answered me in email. The investigation for before the time me has supplied in this forum and subsequently on paypal. It is dishonest and I will make negative publicity them.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
Yawn..... :roll:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
It is only making one figure pessima of forehead to its possible customers. Shames
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
If I understood that I might get upset with your name calling :lol:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
To the end if I lose the moneies I can only say to have given of the moneies to one needy person, a beggar.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
You haven't 'given' me anything - you bought items, which I posted to you, and the Italian postal service have lost...you then tried to claim a refund by paypal and as I had posted the items they did not refund you, and you now cannot claim from the postal company. It is the Italian Postal service who has lost your items and therefore your money. I haven't gained anything from your loss other than a bizarre fascination with poorly written english. :wink:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
I must recognize that it has reason, the service mails has lost them articles, of sure she does not help its customers to having perfect, correct, sure and calm a service. I do not have to sell null to nobody, lose the moneies I earn to you honestly working, but it will lose the dignity, the honor, the respect and the confidence of all those that are reading it. My English bad one is justified because i am Italian, but its dishonest behavior does not know language.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
I forgot: the single reason why it does not have more the receipt is why it has already asked the reimbursement in its post office them and has had to deliver it. Paypal has already answered me saying that they do not ask some certificate originates them to the customers of which active procedures of reimbursement do not exist.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] concep86:
I'm still around... and still waiting for my shipment...(not holding my breath of course.)

I honestly beleive that fluf... never sent anything...

Like I said... CROOK... until proven wrong

concep86
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] newbie2:
You know -- this thread is really getting old. I know I'm a relative "noob" here, and I DO apologize if I'm offending anyone by saying this, but this has gone on WAAAYYY too long.

No matter who's "right" and who's "wrong", this whole mess needs to be dealt with in private -- NOT on this forum.

There's a PM feature here that can be used so all the other users aren't drawn in to this controversy.

PLEASE!?!?!?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] Titanich:
All must know what are able to make Fluffcat1 and what risks acquiring objects from he. Inasmuch as no responsibility is not assumed on being up arguments to he, the disagreeable minimum is to inform the others in order to avoid they surprise.

Inasmuch as it uses this forum in order to sell its objects me seem right to inform all public.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] bigsteve:
I Say Delete this thread

And Ban the Slanderers.

And have a rule, Banning this type of threads in the future,
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] kevino:
As fluffcat advertises on this forum or, if he doesn't actually advertise, posts many links to his ebay sales I think complaints should be allowed as well.

However I do agree that thread titles like this and the later posts with libelous endings should most definately not be allowed.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] concep86:
Look...

I initially posted this thread to warn others about Fluff...

If I was able to make 1 person hesitate and not buy from Fluf... Than I feel good..

Not because I think I am sticking it to fluf, but because no one should be taken advantage of when conducting business on the net...

Unfortunately there are some that do prey on honest folks like us...

And quite simply stated...

If the thread bothers you than simply dont read it...

I just dont get it...

concep86

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[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] bigsteve:
and there are some who beleive that accusing people of fraud in public is a way of getting what they want.

its not fluffcat1's fault, its the Postal service and the way you have conducted yourself
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] cribelles:
don´t buy from him

I also bouth from him on ebay once and is the worst seller I have ever met, bad communication, bad words said to a customer, and I opened a claim through paypal after waiting 15days since I paid, he asked me to close the claim and I continued so that I got a refund. What would have happened if I would have closed the claim? don´t buy from him!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] concep86:
Bigsteve,

According to Websters online dictionary...

The word accuse is defined as

1 : to charge with a fault or offense : BLAME

2 : to charge with an offense judicially or by a public process

with this defeinition in mind....

I am accsuing him of NOT DELIVERING THE PRODUCT HE SOLD and CHARGED my Paypal account...!!!!

I firmly believe that he never sent the item to begin with... sdo passing the blame on to the shipping company is a lot of bull... I have asked him for proof of delivery and have not received anything...

Even after I started this thread he has not tried to contact me other than to keep posting here of his innocence... with out providing proof..

as for the way I have conducted myself... Did you miss all the email attempts I made at resolving this cordially... like gentlemen!...

Since you point a finger at my conduct... How would you have handled this situation.

Lets say you purchased something online... and never received a confirmation of shipment... or anything else for that matter.

What would you do?

Please enlighten me on proper conduct....
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] concep86:
Re: don´t buy from him

cribelles,

You were smarter than I on this issue... I was dumb enough to cancel the complaint when he asked me to... thinking that we were acting honorably...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fluffcat1:
Re: don´t buy from him

In this case they asked me to ship to an unconfirmed address and I wouldn't after the initially said they would pay by bank transfer. They claimed not to be able to confirm addresses or verify accounts with paypal in Spain, but paypal themselves told me that was b*ll*cks.

I could not refund the payment unless I added funds on top of the 'frozen' paypal funds from the complaint hence the need for it's cancellation. My eBay feedback of 2400+ positives says it all really...all the haters here simply post to ***** about me - their post count says it all really. As a precentage of my sales these issues are just drops in the ocean, and the continued publicising of my name and what I sell is actually increasing sales via this board :lol:

Richard
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Accessories] fprice02:
Fluff

please PM me back about my blue angel. thanks.