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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gamescan:
Re: Blocking DirectPush

Cingular could easily block the port and charge for it if it wished to do so.

The device type can be checked every time it is powered on and registers on a tower. If a carrier really does want to tie service cost to a device it can.

Wow, I'm suprised to see a Bay Area person NOT like T-Mobile. I'm also in the Bay Area and coverage is fantastic. Dropped calls simply aren't an issue. Get EDGE coverage everywhere and CS has been pretty top notch when calling in with an esoteric combination of unsupported devices and getting them to work. Cingular's not bad, but there are plenty of places in SF where the T-Mobile line gets a crystal clear connection, but the Cingular line has issues holding the connection to a Cingular tower. When that happens I just force it to roam on the T-Mobile tower. ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kltye:
Re: Blocking DirectPush

Actually, over-the-air Activesync runs over port 80 :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Dr Puttingham:
Re: Blocking DirectPush

In addition to port 443 for SSL I believe.

Steven
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
I think thoses plans are if you want the extra support. Most of us in the forum will not need that (':D')
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
Push email can be on port 80 or SSL port depends on your server's settings. For most corporate email system, SSL is probably mandatory.

Cingular already started cripling regular data connection. I noticed this week that I can no longer use my Media Net connection to connect to mail2web.com exhange server using SSL. I have to uncheck SSL to make it work. When I'm on wi-fi, both worked. It's would be fine with me as I don't need SSL on my personal email. However, if I'm going to move to my company's Exchange Server (when the IT figures it out) later, I have a feeling that I have no choice but pay Cingular $45/mo. Right now, I'm on $10/mo 5MB Media Net plan which works just fine for months.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
I am on my corp Exchange server with push and SSL and no issues. We have 3 other devices all running AKU 2.3 and none of them so far have any problems over GPRS. Get my email before or at the same time as Outlook.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
Then must be something unique to the certificate used by Mail2web.com. It all worked fine before. The error message I got is 'Certificate Expired' but I don't have this issue when I'm using Wi-fi.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kyphur:
In your Setting for GPRS, are you using WAP.CINGULAR or ISP.CINGULAR?

I know this might sound like a stupid question but that is something that would stop SSL from working.

ISP.CINGULAR allows for secured sites whereas WAP.CINGULAR doesn't
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
We are all using wap.cingular. And wap.cingular does SSL just fine. Use SSL websites and corp IM (LCS) and have no issues with wap.cingular. ISP.cingular gives you a public IP. Nothing to do with SSL. Some VPN's require that so they offer it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
If the cert is expried then that would be a problem. My guess is that when you go WIFI you are not using SSL hence no problem.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
Yep. WAP or ISP makes no difference on SSL previously. Supposedly, you're only allowed to use ISP when you pay for PDA connect plan.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
I'm using SSL when on Wi-Fi as well with no issues. The difference I guess is that how certificate is verified. Wi-Fi will use either my home ISP or work ISP to verify the certificate and GPRS will use Cingular network to verify it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
Certs are not verified against a network. There is more going on with your settings or on the mail2web side if it works from one connection and not on another. Quick guess is you could be hitting different servers on their end depending on where you are coming from . The one you get when you go over GPRS may have the expired cert. The one you get when you come over WIFI is good. Bottom line dont think it has anything to do with Cingular.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
I hope it will be an isolated issue with mail2web.com as well.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] blazeman:
I know you probably already did this :) But check the date on your device. Mine wouldn't sync OTA... I check the date and it was a year off. Changed the date back and boom... back to sycing
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
That makes sense to not sync but I have trouble connecting.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Hydrogen:
I understand and agree with all the points made here but has anyone considered the fact they may offer an unlimited DP plan for LESS than an unlimited data plan? I mean, they are the most expensive data plan going in the US and don't think they will make any new friends pushing that even higher.

Just a thought

-H
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
Read the press release. It has the prices in it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
Lol. Go read the press release. DP plans are more expensive than unlimited data plan.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gamescan:
Cingular's unlimited data plan for PDAs is $44.99. So if you've already got the unlimited data plan then you won't be paying any more to add Push Mail. Now if you're using one of the MEdia Net plans with a PDA things are a bit different as those plans are meant for browsing from the phone itself and don't include tethering or advanced connection features, AFAIK. Though it works "unofficially" I wouldn't be suprised to see Cingular start locking down some of the MEdia Net ports to push business users onto the unlimited data plan.

I know Sprint has recently been doing the same thing across the country and T-Mobile has locked down some ports on its unlimited T-Zones plan. Basically all of the carriers seem to see data as a rev stream and now that the bandwidth is enough for people to use it near constantly, they want to separate out the casual users with limited devices (ie phones) from the power users and business users full featured devices (ie PDAs and those that tether).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] GliTCH82:
Is there any feasible way that the DP service they are charging for is access to their own Exchange systems, and not charing you extra to enable you to use DP with a provider of your choice?

I mean as it is I use DP with Mail2Web without SSL, so that's definitely working on port 80 right? They can't possibly filter that out, right?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] gamescan:
If you're connecting via a standard Data Plan, you should be fine.

If you're connecting via a MEdia Net plan Cingular *could* start forcing connections through a proxy and block DP mail that way. That's one possibility. I'm not saying it will, just saying that would be one way to do it if Cingular wanted.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
No the PDA connect plan is 39.95 with voice. The press release says DP plans will be 44.95 with voice.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jeffreycentex:
For those of us with Wizards, it will be $5 more apparently (40->45). The people with the 2125's are going to get screwed by this, though. They go from $20->$30.

They can't outright "kill" DP on the wap. or isp. AP's, but they can make it very miserable by forcing a quick timeout on the persistent http connection. For instance, I have IIS server at my office configured to timeout at 15 minutes. Thus, my phone will only sync once every 15 minutes if I don't have email. However, Cingular can change this to 1 or 2 minutes, which will result in our batteries dying fairly quickly (i.e., try activesyncing every 2 minutes and see how long your battery life would be).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amg212:
Even if one were to accept the rationale for charging DP users more than typical WAP users, I still can't understand how Cingular could possibly justify charging 50% more to use the same service on a different device!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] foxbat121:
Because Cingular can. The same reason why oil companies can charge you $3/g for the gas.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] rempmi:
Net Neutrality???
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amg212:
No - what Cingular is doing is like saying that gas costs $3/gallon if you drive a Honda but $4.50/gallon (same grade of gas) if you drive a BMW
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] decepticon:
Well it looks like Cingular killed Direct Push on wap.cingular.

If you have isp.cingular it still works however, just change your APN to isp.cingular and your username to ISP@CINGULARGPRS.COM (all caps)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
Still is working for me. Did you hear from people at work?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] alynch75:
Free alternative to push mail

hey thought you'd like to know about this software. I found and its free it does push mail

http://www.freedownloadscenter.com/...__Free_push_email_service_on_any_device_.html
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] alynch75:
Push Email free

the program is called eMOze
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] cybiker123:
emoze is not push email it is a program that pops the email from a pop email server like gmail and then allows you to resend it to your phone through a software that connects your phone and the emoze server which is installed on your personal computer and tells your phone you have an email it is not a direct push email service such as an exchange server would be such as the 4 dollar a month 4smartphone service or the free mail2web service
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] decepticon:
Just from personal use, havent been able to connect to DP for a few days and last night decided to try isp.cingular and it started working again.

From what I am hearing, it sounds as if we might be getting a special APN for DP access which really sucks.

Been using DP for months with no problems and now suddenly it won't work on my Media Works just cause Cingular decided to launch it?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
Dont see how they could block it. It is just Http/ssl so it uses port 443 or 80 if you do not have SSL checked. Thats plain web traffic.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] decepticon:
Odd, I just unchecked SSL and switched back to wap.cingular and its working fine.

I have many other SSL connections that have been working fine the whole time.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] amg212:
Still working for me - email is coming in very reliably
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] PuPpYpWr:
well its on the htc ite but too bad its corrupted..only 39mb
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] addicus:
I have an unlimited data plan (email/internet/text/mms) for $20.00 that I got when I came over to Cingular in January of 05. I have to call in every 3 to 6 months to have them fix it because they start charging me for data.

So far email is still DP all day everyday with no problems using Wap.cingular.

I don't use IE because it is slow as heck. I've went to Opera (thank you XDA) and I have no problems accessing any site exect www.padres.com.

T-Mobile is big here in the Inland Empire of So. Cali, but it call quality/area kinda sucks. I really don't want to have to switch, but if Cingular starts blocking DP from ActiveSync I just might.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Sleuth255:
It'll be lease timeouts on wap.cingular. A 5 minute IP change frequency will kill the heartbeat and force your device to re-connect every 7 minutes. This will basically cause direct push to work the same as setting it to check emails every 7 minutes. Battery life will suffer for sure... We've already seen this on wap.cingular. Cingular blue SIMS connecting through proxy are pretty much unsable from a DP standpoint for this reason. When I loaded DP, I had to get an Orange SIM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mikeruoc:
I dont think they would ever do this. This AP is used by everything from regular phones to our Pocket PC phones. This would kill IM programs and many other things for all kinds of phone no less DP. My phone now is doing a heartbeat every 10 to 15 mins (Which is much less then a full sync.) Plus I am getting my email before outlook and I have tested the connection by sending an email right before the next heartbeat to make sure the connection is still open and it is. Memmaid is great for this as it allows you to see when the new HTTPdog is going to run.

Cingular is not out to make their service bad for their customers.
[Galaxy Ace II General] hmzh:
there is a new firmware for our ace 2 it is [ XXNB1 ] witch is very very fast than xxmg2 and the kernel is

its the same but

se.infra@SWDA2304 #2

very fast :highfive:

good work Samsung
[Galaxy Ace II General] Azpema:
Really? Could you say that is as fast and fluid as CM11 or even stock GB?

Enviado desde mi GT-I8160 usando Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] hmzh:
not that fast but the boot are a lot faster and when I play a 720pp [hd video] IT DONT GET FREEZ :victory::victory:

and smother than xxmg2 the uk and T-Mobile

try it and you will see

and Samsung have made the download a lot faster than hotfile :cool:
[Galaxy Ace II General] newhalo:
I tried xxnb1 and it is a good firmware very better than xxmg2 .. It'll be more better with a custom kernel. ( I tried xxnb1 german)

Inviato dal mio GT-I8160 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] hmzh:
then try the [Slovakia] its faster :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] newhalo:
It's more fast than german xxnb1?

Inviato dal mio GT-I8160 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] hmzh:
yes I tried the german
[Galaxy Ace II General] hmzh:
we jest need a kernel for the stock rom and we will have the best phone :p

please some one do this kernel :angel:
[Galaxy Ace II General] str3tch72:
It could be good baseband for 4.4, but I'm too lazy to flash it xD

Wysłane z mojego GT-I8160 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy Ace II General] newhalo:
Exactly :)

Inviato dal mio GT-I8160 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] nusko_x:
Report after few days. Usually then the problems begin with video player.
[Galaxy Ace II General] tofueatsbread:
That doesnt make any sense
[Galaxy Ace II General] newhalo:
Try with mx player

Inviato dal mio GT-I8160 con Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Ace II General] hafizulpijul12:
no new firmware for gt-i8160p.. :'(

by the way, now i'm waiting for kyrillos v10.. :)
[Galaxy Ace II General] arhamiq:
Can anybody test SanAndreas on NB1? Please? :P
[Galaxy Ace II General] nusko_x:
You cant use mx for youtube.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] BlowUpTheOutsideWorld:
Can get s-off or unlock bootloader, no matter what I do.

bootloader 1.16.0000

Even tried htcdev: http://s4.postimg.org/ewu7iwr5o/Untitled.jpg
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] kimba99:
you're sure it's a Incredi4G? ... if so, the bootloader version seems incorrect and/or unknown (to me at least) ... as the latest one we have is 1.15.0000 (or at best the engineering 1.15.1111) after the 2.17.605.2 RUU to ICS4.0.4 (the latest 2014-OTA 2.19.605.2 didn't change/touch the hboot)

EDIT: just in case ... could u plz upload a photo from the bootloader showing all the version infos? thx
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] BlowUpTheOutsideWorld:
I'd have to check it out later(The Version). I even tried the factory ruu exe and it gives me a bootloader error.

It is the htc incredible lte.

Just none of the scripts work for it.

I'll post up a picture later, im in school.
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] BlowUpTheOutsideWorld:
My mistake its 1.16.0000 Bootloader.

Image here: http://s10.postimg.org/jj6szhihk/20140319_114901.jpg
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dcooterfrog:
the ota didi not change the boot loader BUT i just got a replacement form vz it also had 1.16.

mine didi geth s-off wiht rumrunner it just took more than one try
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] kimba99:
WOW ... interesting to see, that they actually DID create a new(er) hboot for our Dinc4G :eek:;) ... from the time-frame it fits the testing of the 2014-OTA nearly perfectly!

maybe that was/is the hboot prepared for the ... long intended JB4.1 updated :cool: ... but in the end they decided to _not_ roll out the full upgrade, but rather only a smaller bug-fix OTA.:crying: so for the regular user, there simply was no _need_ for new(er) hboot (yet?! :confused::cowboy:)

[MENTION=1413321]dcooterfrog[/MENTION]: good to know that rumrunner S-OFF also works on 1.16 ;) ... (i just assume that we won't see the ENG-1.16 (1.16.1111) anytime soon in the wild out there ;))
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] dcooterfrog:
i was surprised that it let me flash the 1.15.1111 over 16 but it did
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] kimba99:
i assume: due to being s-off ... your dinc4g didn't mind accepting the older hboot ^^
[Verizon HTC Droid Incredible 4G LTE] junkmail9:
Yep. With s-off you can flash *anything* without any safeguards. When writing the regawmod plug-in, I went back and forth between several hboot versions.
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
Since we have root now, can we start a list of the system APK that are safe to remove.

Well, so far:

Deleted (not frozen, actually deleted):

All Amazon apks

Audible something

Calculator

Caller Name ID

Google Play Books

Google Play Games

Google Play Magazines

Google Play Movies

Motorola Migrate

Ingress

NFL Live

Frozen with Titanium for now - will delete in a few weeks after making sure I dont need them:

Backup Assistant Plus

Backup Assistant Contacts Client

Demo Mode

Device Management

Downloads

Droid Command Center

Droid Dream

Droid Zap Zap

Email

Google Pinyin Input

Help

Home Screen Tips

Local Wipe

Mobile Hotspot (the native tether still works)

MotoCare

MotoCareInt

MotoEmailConfig

Motorolla Car Dock

Motorola Checkin

Motorola Connect

Motorola DriveActivator

Motorola ID

Motorola Notifications

Motorola Ont Time Init

Motorola Services 6

Motorola Services Main

Motorola Skip Setup

Motorola Slpc System

MotorolaOTA

My InfoZone

My Verizon Mobile

NativeDropBoxAgent

Picasa Uploader

Rescue Add-On

Setup Wizard 4.4-15

Setup Wizard 1.0

Sync Service

TalkBack

Tutorial 2.0

Uploader 1.0

Verizon Login

Verizon Support & Protection

Verizon Tones

Verizon Ready

Voicemail

VpnDialogs

VZ Navigator

VZW Package Installer

VZWAPNSerivce

VzwSecureSettingsApp

Wireless Display

Wireless Display Service

Wireless Display Widget

No issues with any functionality so far - everything works as it should.
[Droid Ultra General] Topsnake:
Freeze them with titanium. Same effect, less risk

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Droid Maxx "Developer Edition"

Running Official 4.4.2 found here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2682919
[Droid Ultra General] Mustang02:
I disagree. Now those of us with unlocked bootloaders, can fxz if something happens, the apps are still using space. And with only 24gb free before app installs I need every KB.
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
I'm not 100% sure but I think I read somewhere that removed system APKs do not add to free usable space. System APK reside in System ROM partition and removing APKs from there simply frees up space on that partition which does nothing for user accessible space.

Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.
[Droid Ultra General] Mustang02:
I was not aware of that.
[Droid Ultra General] raiderep:
Rather than remove them I choose to rename them with .bak added to the name, this essentially turns them off but you can always take the .bak away to 'turn them on' again.
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
Well, so far:

Deleted (not frozen, actually deleted):

All Amazon apks

Audible something

Calculator

Caller Name ID

Google Play Books

Google Play Games

Google Play Magazines

Google Play Movies

Motorola Migrate

Ingress

NFL Live

Frozen with Titanium for now - will delete in a few weeks after making sure I dont need them:

Backup Assistant Plus

Backup Assistant Contacts Client

Demo Mode

Device Management

Downloads

Droid Command Center

Droid Dream

Droid Zap Zap

Email

Google Pinyin Input

Help

Home Screen Tips

Local Wipe

Mobile Hotspot (my free tether still works)

MotoCare

MotoCareInt

MotoEmailConfig

Motorolla Car Dock

Motorola Checkin

Motorola Connect

Motorola DriveActivator

Motorola ID

Motorola Notifications

Motorola Ont Time Init

Motorola Services 6

Motorola Services Main

Motorola Skip Setup

Motorola Slpc System

MotorolaOTA

My InfoZone

My Verizon Mobile

NativeDropBoxAgent

Picasa Uploader

Rescue Add-On

Setup Wizard 4.4-15

Setup Wizard 1.0

Sync Service

TalkBack

Tutorial 2.0

Uploader 1.0

Verizon Login

Verizon Support & Protection

Verizon Tones

Verizon Ready

Voicemail

VpnDialogs

VZ Navigator

VZW Package Installer

VZWAPNSerivce

VzwSecureSettingsApp

Wireless Display

Wireless Display Service

Wireless Display Widget

No issues with any functionality so far - everything works as it should.
[Droid Ultra General] jtoTTy:
That is one crazy long list. It's amazing to me that Motorola and Verizon force crap on us that we don't want or need without the ability to remove it. I used Gemini App Manager to "block" a significant subset of the apps you listed, and I'm so much happier now. My phone seems to run even better, and I can notice a significant improvement in my battery life.
[Droid Ultra General] Jaocagomez:
thats one bigass list.
[Droid Ultra General] jfriend33:
I use Uninstall Expert. It's free. I didn't go crazy freezing all the moto apps since there's no improvement in battery life, performance, or increase in space.

I primarily used it to disable the verizon apps that can't be disabled in settings.

Sent from my unlocked consumer edition Motorola Droid Maxx xt1080m.
[Droid Ultra General] Mustang02:
I have probably 90% of those lists removed. I left most of the Motorola ones since I don't know what they are such as:

Motorola DriveActivator

Motorola Notifications

Motorola Services

Trying to find out what they seems to be more difficult.
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
I disagree. There appears to be tremendous improvements in battery life (see images attached). While there is no direct benefit of actually removing the bloatware as only space on the system partition gets freed, you can still benefit from it by moving your apps into system - therefore freeing the usable space
[Droid Ultra General] BladeRunner:
pretty sure that if in 14 hours I spent 7+ hours staring at my phone's screen my wife would leave me and I'd get fired from my job, :laugh::laugh:
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
Get a different wife :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:

Yeah, I also find almost 8 hrs on the phone in 14 hrs period as excessive, agreed. This was because of setting up a phone after unlock.
[Droid Ultra General] danger2u:
i try to disinstall it with root explorer and did not unistalled

4.2.2 droid maxx rooted
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
Did you mount system R/W?
[Droid Ultra General] BladeRunner:
Do you have write protection off?
[Droid Ultra General] danger2u:
no

no

can u tell me how to da that?

thanks guys
[Droid Ultra General] CrazyRussianXDA:
I cant tell you how to mount system r/w with root explorer as I never used it. If you decide to give ES File Explorer a try then:

1. Tap on the half globe half computer icon in the upper left corner to open the slide out drawer

2. Tap on "Tools" to expend its options

3. Tap on "OFF" button that is next to Root Explorer - this will turn the feature on

4. Then tap on "Root Explorer" words themselves and it will bring up a pop-up menu

5. Tap on "Mount R/W"

System is now in read/write