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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Venue 7 or Venue 8

If your on the venue 7 and can wait till I get the new package up there will be a backup.bat and restore.bat, you could just flash the system through droidboot/fastboot more commonly known from post one the only reason I make the recommendation for doing the full installation package is so in the future a user wishes to apply ota updates from dell they will still install. If you do only the system flash and already applied the latest update your boot recovery and fastboot images have already been patched so updates will fail when they verify the patches. If you come from 4.2.2 you have to do the full install because of kernel changes.
[Dell Venue] eduardito:
Thanks for your prompt reponse I'm on Venue 8
[Dell Venue] JoeKimpel:
So, does anyone have plans to build a custom recovery for of these devices? It seems like the logical next step. I would love to try it, but have limited time for tinkering.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I do but I'm working on a starter tool kit at the moment to make managing, distributing and installing packages easier.
[Dell Venue] Suchomimus:
I made an account just to ask this. Does the link to the root package not work for anyone else? When I go to download it I get a 404 page. Trying to get my tablet finally rooted!
[Dell Venue] Tornade69:
All the links working for me...:confused:
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Every single link in first post is working fine. Maybe you have some problems with DNS or Proxy?

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I've not changed hosting sites yet or removed anything they all should be working just fine.

Been working on a toolkit and that has end up more of a project then I thought but its coming along I couldn't find a easily modified toolkit so I end up starting my own. I gotta figure out a couple more things before its up.
[Dell Venue] Akram.:
Hi,

I have a few Qns:

1. I am on v8, 4.3 latest update. I even updated to latest 8 Mb update stock. I want to root. where do i begin.? Step by Step Instructions pls

2. Do i have to wipe my tablet before rooting?

3. How do i unroot later to receive Official updates?
[Dell Venue] vanhung4050:
thanks

thanks you
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
I think I figured out what I was going wrong with the deodex. I have some more testing to do but if it works I will post a deodexed version of the rooted image.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
My deepest apologies for posting this as I'm sure it has been answered somewhere in the 439 replies but, since there is no recovery, if the device gets bricked would i be able to reflash this img and save it?

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
as long as you can get to fastboot / droidboot you can always reflash the system.img

dev conversion for the v8 until I get the stock boot recovery fastboot images. Is the worse case off restore method but if the droidboot or boot gets messed up you have to do the full dev.

The v7 is a little more complicated but my device is proof that it is possible to unbrick.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Still in need of a v8 that has done only the jcase root flash so I can dump the stock boot recovery and fastboot images off of.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Root worked for me on the 32gb. Thank you for all of your effort, already contributed and continued.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
did you only do the rooted system image?
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
I dunno lol. Your second post using 2 bat files
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
ok thats dev-edition conversion. no one that has done the rooted system image only in post one seem to reply back i really need to get the remaining images off of one.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
That is Greek to me so I assume I can't be much help
[Dell Venue] arclight25:
I did the rooted system image on my 32gb V8.

Tell me how to pull the image, and any other stuff you need and I will send it to you.

Would be happy to help.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
i'll pm u instructions and files needed when i get home i forgot my thumb drive at the house to day.

just to clarify you did root post1 not post2? did you install the last update that dell released it was 6.8mb? whether or not you installed the update or not really doesnt matter just lets me know if i need to patch the images after you send them to me.
[Dell Venue] arclight25:
I used the Image file, not the bat files. I have not installed the update. Wasn't sure if I would lose root if I did.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
I wouldn't bother switching hosts, when I was signing up today they had a banner at the top apologizing for dropped downloads recently.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Deodexed Optimized Rooted System Image

This is for the Venue 8 Android ONLY

Here is the rooted system dodeexed and zip aligned. It makes it much easier to theme and tweak the system.

I used the format social-design-concepts is using to keep it organized.

Reboot into droidboot then use:

fastboot flash system deodexed_factory_v8jb4.3_system.img.gz
fastboot reboot

DOWNLOAD HERE AFH
[Dell Venue] chairsz:
How do I go from the latest 4.3 update 6mb or so to the recently released DEodexed Romn file? Assuming This is the new dev version is it just a fast boot command line flash process? Instructions for the venue 8 were a bit jumpy for me to get (finals and all that good stuff)
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Screenshots?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I actually have a new package format I'll send it to you when I finish it i gotta wait for my daughter to goto sleep. It should make flashing easy for the average user.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Of what?

---------- Post added at 02:43 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:31 AM ----------

The instructions are in my post. But if you mean to get into the bootloader you can use

adb reboot bootloader

from the computer or from powered off press and hold power and volume plus (+) until you see the dell (or Intel if you have run the dev pack) logo then wait until it is in droidboot. Once there connect it to the computer and run the fastboot commands I put in my post.

but if you haven't run the dev version yet and still have a stock system, get with social-design, he needs to dump stock system files.

---------- Post added at 02:44 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:43 AM ----------

Cool.

---------- Post added at 03:18 AM ---------- Previous post was at 02:44 AM ----------

Not to be facetious but if I was trying to post a shady image I could take a snap from any 4.3 tablet.
[Dell Venue] vilehost:
disregard this, when i actually read the link noticed it was for the v7. lol
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Can anyone do this for the V8?
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
I've written today to Dell and look what response I recevied.

https://twitter.com/LuziQs/status/454241155992256512
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Nice but i dont get ota updates after root >.< though i hate kit kat theme
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I'm working on fixing the OTA issue after i receive all the images.

if dell does release a KitKat as long as they don't change to much of the update method or or embed some other kind of lock into i'll be able to take the otas and preroot them for flashing its part of the reason i'm working on a toolKIT not really for KitKat but to make flashing a simple process.
[Dell Venue] vilehost:
i remember you said you heard the dev edition will disable updates, where did you hear that from. it would be nice/convenient if they made two branches. i can still check for updates. this is defenitly good enough in no way am i complaining, i expect no more from dell when it comes to the v8, still would be nice and neat :)

thats why i was wondering where you heard
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Sorry it is for the V8, when I did the cut and paste from Open Office I missed the first line.

If someone wants one for the 7 I can make one, someone will just have to test.

---------- Post added at 10:23 PM ---------- Previous post was at 10:21 PM ----------

I tried the update on the full dev version. it downloaded it but on the install if fails after it tried to verify the boot.img.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
yeah it can't patch the images the files are different i have a user that i sent something to to dump the proper images off the device so i can build a full flash package for the V8 thats already patch with the 6.8MB ota. and rooted.

any file changed that gets patched by ota will fail on patch verification.
[Dell Venue] vilehost:
thats what i was wondering, maybe theyll make another branch with updates specifically made for dev, but i forgot it voided warrenty anyway, i could see them maybe releasing an updated dev image in the future replacing the one they are currently hosting. but i dont think they would do little ota's its a different kernel too . i dont have enough experience with dell in recent years to forsee

same kernel branch but who knows, has anyone been able to look into it?

3.4.43 xyx@build167 #1 unrooted 4.3v1.25

3.4.43-dirtysongdeliang@build125 #3 dev edition
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Ok. I have a mega dumb question. Is it possible to unroot? xD

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
i'll have an unroot flash package up at some point. for the venue 7 at least.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
thanks i'll now be able to package full flash update packages for both devices as well as stock flash package
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
I have deodexed the V7 system files. I don't have a 7 so I have made a simple installer. If a & owner would like to test and it works we can pulls the system image to work with social's packages. The installer backs up the system files and if you hang at boot there is a .cmd file to push stock back.

PM me if you want to test it. I will check back later this afternoon.
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Haven't been able to download the rooted system image yet! Give me a day to get home to my PC so that I can volunteer.

Dead Cookies leave no trails...
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
No problem. Even if someone steps up I can still send you the installer. In the end it's the same result as flashing an image. Just need to know if it works. It's more making sure the deodex is OK, I have use the installer on a ton of tablets before/
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
what installer you using..
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
I just wrote a cmd to backup the stock, push the new and set permissions, then delete the leftover odex. I'm not worried about the installer, just the deodex because I can't test then files.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Just a note, Xposed framework installer boot loops the V8, in case anyone was thinking about it.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
People were talking about boot loops after xposed installation. In that case someone invented safe mode (rapidly press one of the hardware keys during device boot).

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Wish i had known that... .-. Had to re-flash.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Right so small problem, my tablet is forgetting presets, such as the selected keyboard, its done that twice,. And just now I turned it on and had the default wallpaper.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Try booting into recovery and delete cache. it's possible you got a bad flash, but deleting the cache usually fixes quirky setting issues.
[Dell Venue] Akram.:
Xposed Installer is not stable? Thanks, I am not rooting until a permenant fix
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
It is perfectly stable, this device/stock ROM doesn't like it.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] Akram.:
Yes, thats what i meant
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
There will never be a fix if it isn't reported to Xposed.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
When I boot into recovery I just get the background, no text appears.

Edit: after consulting the almighty Google found a way, tapping volume up down and power at the same time while in recovery triggers the recovery menu. These guys really hide ****.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
One question. Does V8 or V7 with internal 3G modem have telephony function as calling and text messages? Is there dialer in app drawer (I know about hidden one in tablet info, but it's not what I need)?

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Current versions in market are WiFi only (without modem/micro-sim card tray). Future plans indicate inclusion of 3G/LTE modem with SIM tray.

Sent from one of my/our device/s
[Dell Venue] Breathe of fate:
Sorry if it was asked but I dont have time to read the whole thread. There is no way to root v7 4.3 yet?
[Dell Venue] stang48317:
http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51089990&postcount=1&nocache=1&z=2540061899926513
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
this doesn't even deserve a response if you can't even read the 1st post.....

i understand it can be time consuming to read the whole thread but come on.... really.... if you can't even take the time to read the 1st post of the thread telling you what the thread is about, you probably shouldn't be posting at all in the thread. i dont mean to sound b*tchy but its disrespectful to post in a thread without even reading the title post....

oh and wrapping up the toolKIT it should make flashing and other basic adb functions easy for even a beginning user. finishing the flashing batch now.
[Dell Venue] Breathe of fate:
Oh, thanx... I didn`t see it ))) Sorry.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
To be honest we still don't know what cause xposed to bootloop our Venues. Can it be helped with some logs? I miss few features from GravityBox ;/
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
the issue with exposed is known and has been covered here:

Xposed/issues/6 ( issues with intel-MID and JB 4.3 )

here is a link to the beta version used on the Asus ME302:

beta version used on the Asus ME302

i haven't tested modules yet but it doesnt bootloop when setting up the framework.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
the update for beta 2 does however seem to cause the bootloop.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Maybe an update cause bootloop, but GravityBox on this Beta2 works like a charm!
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
after i finish up a couple of other things i'll install the update again to pull the logs and open an issue on the xposed git regarding the Dell Venue devices what Venue is yours mine is 7 and it seems to work so far.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
I have Venue 7. And to be honest, now I'm happy user of it.

I've installed newest Xposed 2.5.1 earlier and had a bootloop. But this beta works fine so far.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
ok i'll need a V8 user to check it and ill include the installer in my toolkit, i'll see what i can do with assisting getting the issues figured out.
[Dell Venue] joanthanmajh:
The framework installs on my venue 8 fine
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
it seems to work fine but the update breaks it i'll be including it as an installable option in my toolKIT.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Works fine on mine as well. Just the beta, did NOT update it to 2.5.1. The update bootloops.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
The install went fine, but every time I reboot, I get the "android is optimizing" window and then boots. Any way around this or do I have to reset everything?
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
It's not happening to me. Maybe try deleting cache. If that doesn't work make a backup and then factory reset.
[Dell Venue] arclight25:
Do we have a flash able recovery yet? When I try to boot to recovery, I get the android and red triangle picture. Everything else works good.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
That's the stock recovery vol up and power brings up the menu as for twrp or cwr none as of yet.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Has anyone tried lucky patcher core/market patch yet?

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
[MENTION=4821597]social-design-concepts[/MENTION] maybe you'll find here something useful: http://android.clients.google.com/p...i_US_user_signed_update_gotapackage_16-25.zip

Found it in /data/system/dropbox/event_log@...txt

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
thanks i actually have that ota it's i used some files out of it to unbrick my Venue 7,

out of curiosity did you do the root system only?

what is your devices IFWI?

what kernel version?
[Dell Venue] arclight25:
OK, so it isn't just me. Was hoping I didn't mess something up along the way.
[Dell Venue] nighthawk149:
Can you share your unbrick files?

I only have fw dnx ifw and maybe os image.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Correct. I've rooted system only.

My IFWI: F9.6C

Kernel: Linux version 3.4.43 (XYX@build117) (gcc version 4.7 (GCC) ) #1 SMP PREEMPT Wed Feb 26 12:34:30 CST 2014

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
does your devices still boot to fastboot with vol down and power?

if so your device isn't bricked and you can just flash the correct full package for the V7

if you have the V8 i'll have the stock files up after i finaling my package format for flashing through my toolkit ( not out yet )

if you can't get to fastboot msg me and i'll go into details about additional information i need to walk you through the process.
[Dell Venue] nighthawk149:
I just want to examine tablet's boot process, so it would be nice to have something to restore it if something goes wrong.

If fastboot fails, there is no way to restore it without "os dnx" (correct me if I'm wrong).

Also it very simple to brick this tablet, if you have root.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
if you really wanna know what's all needed for unbricking look at everything included with the V8 dev-edition package:

but to get your device up to a fastboot state for flashing, four files specific to your devices are required:

FWDNX

FWIMAGE

OSDNX

OSIMAGE

the simple version is the DNX files are download programs, they do the actual writing of the IMAGE files to the OSIP HEADER.

you also need the partition.tbl to write to the device or it wont see the storage and partition layout,

if you wanna know more PM me and ill explain it to you but unbricking for the v7 isn't released yet.
[Dell Venue] nighthawk149:
DNX also may check fw image signatures, i think.

I have venue 7.

I already know, that partition table of v7 same as v8.

Fwdnx from v7 ota and fwdnx from v8 "dev edition" are identical. So can i expect, that v8 OSDNX compatible with v7? Someone tried this?

Intel flashing software requires all 4 files to unbrick, then I would have access to fastboot. Right?
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Will be stock allow OTA?

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
your refering to the V8 package correct? yes but otas will break the root.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
I was, would here be a benefit of using the stock vs. Dev?

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
once again if you want more details on the process you can PM me

i haven't verified yet if the fwdnx from the v7 and v8 i can tell you 100% that if you flash the files from the v8 "dev-edition" you will not have any display. it could just be the ifwi is different but one of those is device specific so might as well just use the two for your device.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
ok i need to get the toolKIT finished so i can get back to testing the device with different things
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
[MENTION=5821799]nighthawk149[/MENTION]

these questions until fully documented are best ask to me in a PM i hope you understand.

some user that fail to take the time to read the full thread see partial answers and then mess things up worse for their device and themselves so until i have document and thoroughly tested everything please PM me with any questions you may have.

one of my packages for the toolKIT will be an unbrick package for both the v7 and v8 but i have to finish the basic factory / root / and update for both devices before i play around more with the unbricking.

if your device is brick PM me and i will gladly walk you through what i did to unbrick mine but until it has been fully document the public forum is not the place for discussion.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
[MENTION=4821597]social-design-concepts[/MENTION] will you release a non rooted package in the future? In some cases it will be useful for warranty I think and OTA ofc.

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
yes: it will be a selection as part of the upcoming toolKIT. download option for both devices.

for most users it will be a recommend part of the rooting process to keep device compatibility with applying OTA updates (though most updates will break root)

there will also be options for checking and downloading and flashing future packages

as well as options for flashing individual images "boot / recovery / system " (drag and drop)

option for dropping to a command line for manual fastboot if you so choose.

checks for device status UNKNOWN / UNAUTHORIZED / ADB-ONLINE / FASTBOOT-ONLINE to ensure the device is in the proper state.

a selection of common adb applications:

backup / restore

sideload / install .apk (drag and drop)

push / pull (drag and drop for pushing)

launching an adb shell

and dropping to the cli for manual use of adb

display general device information

after i patch the device images with the updates i'll be packaging the v8 dev-edition conversion as a downloadable package as well as unbrick package for both devices.

almost complete :D

i was never able to find an easily modified toolKIT so this is my attempt at building one.

so my favorite part is the base part of the toolKIT is not device specific so anyone should be able to use this toolKIT as a base:

for building a device specific toolkit plugin "myKIT"

for building a "rootKIT" plugin:

any root method that is applied through adb could be built as a plugin to the generic toolKIT

or could be used to build a toolKIT that uses root access
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
So it will be some kind of Venue7/8-Exclusive app :D

Will be useful for begginers who want to root their Venues tablets.

Good work! Fingers crossed :D
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
the one released here will contain the myKIT build for the Venue 7/8

when i push the initial commit of the toolKIT ( name undetermined "generic android toolKIT" for now ) to github will only be the base toolKIT.

the base toolKIT only offers the adb tools, fastboot command line use and the needed parts to build a myKIT off of. the main branch won't have any device specific stuff but the dell branch will be there so if people want to build off it they have an example myKIT to look at.

that's the point. easy to use for beginners no need to download the android sdk its included and should be easy for someone thats never built a toolKIT to build off of.

i've never built a toolKIT before so the ability to easily build a toolKIT for another device without having to rewrite everything was my main goal with this. it's why its taken so long that and testing on several machines daily to ensure it runs under different conditions.

gave it a proper name: myKIT_BATCH
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
How about VAT (Venue Android Toolkit)?

Or better still Dell Android Venue Toolkit (DAVKit)?

Dead Cookies leave no trails...
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Or VATS xD Venue Android Toolkit System. Easy to remember for Fallout fans. "Get them with VATS"

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] LordKillZone:
Hi,

Will be a root method for v7 4.3 a package?? No system image.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
not sure i understand what you are asking?
[Dell Venue] LordKillZone:
For my Galaxy Gio is root with recovery flashable package, will be same for Venue 7?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
as of now its only rootable by flashing a system.img.gz through fastboot.
[Dell Venue] LordKillZone:
Ok, thx for info. Are you working do make that root method??? Or it is not possible??