yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
looks like they started updating the sources though

https://01.org/android-ia/

they have KitKat source from android-ia it say:

Intel® Corporation releases Android* 4.4.2 KitKat with a 64-bit Kernel

https://github.com/android-ia/

I know what i'm doing when i get home tonight... seeing this was like waking up as a kid on Xmas morning.

I know android x86 project had kitkat source up for awhile but if you ever talk to some of them if it isn't about making android work on a standard desktop pc they really don't care.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
yeah i knew about the emulation someone should let them know the 64bit kitkat source just dropped might be useful for a fix. I comment to them with the link for the new android-ia source on github hopefully they can fix that part with this source.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
I've changed my permissions to 644 but the changes don't stick or do you have to do it through adb?
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Pull from ADB. When you push pack:

adb shell
chown 0.0 /system/build.prop
chmod 644 /system/build.prop

The changes don't stick through any file manager or editor on the tablet. I haven't tried them through terminal.

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Well so much for that. I turned on the tablet this morning and the default.prop edits were gone. Odd because they held for 4 or 5 reboots last night until I powered it off. Now they won;t hold past one reboot. build.prop holds them fine.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
so whats causing the xposed issues on 4.3 intel-mid is known and he is working on fixing that.

rovo89 commented 18 minutes ago:

Thanks! The reason for the crashes is already known, see my analysis above. I could even post a working test very. The difficulty is to find the correct offset at runtime, because unfortunately the field names are only known at compile time and they are mapped to offsets. If some vendors decide to introduce new fields, the offsets are no longer valid. So I need to find a heuristic to determine the offset which works on these devices AND all devices which don't have this issue.

so that leaves what else not working,

write permission issues on /system

the sdcard issue, but from what i read there is a xposed module for the sdcard issue already. so what else isn't working.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
write permission on the default.prop.

Originally Posted by kairnage View Post

But I was just messing around and you can mount / rw and edit the default.prop and it holds after reboot.

Well so much for that. I turned on the tablet this morning and the default.prop edits were gone. Odd because they held for 4 or 5 reboots last night until I powered it off. Now they won;t hold past one reboot. build.prop holds them fine.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Am I crazy or did someone post that they deodexed the stock ROM? I can't seem to find it now.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
kairnage did not sure if he has tested it yet though.
[Dell Venue] jmjoyas:
I am able to edit the ramdisk. For now, I have a boot image that has the following in the default.prop.

ro.secure=0
ro.adb.secure=1
ro.debuggable=1
ro.allow.mock.location=1
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Edits to the default.prop are always through the boot image. Whatever happened last night when I got my edits to stick shouldn't happen and now I can't recreate it. I think, but in no way know, it might be possible to set it in the kernel so it is not overwritten on boot. I don;t think I have ever seen it. The closest is when I made my ROM for the pandigital supernova I could mount the boot partition and make the change there and it stuck after.

I did and I was able to use adb to remove then replace the system files. It worked but I had a couple of weird reboots that might have been because of the way this firmware treats permissions, like build.prop only working on 644. So I am going to try again on my linux box and build it that way instead of pushing it.
[Dell Venue] jmjoyas:
Are you editing build.prop or default.prop? Are you editing the file on the tablet or outside on the PC? When the file is pushed to the system, the permissions have to be changed after the push.

The changes to build.prop should stick. default.prop is in ramdisk and so should get overwritten on boot.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Build.prop is OK. Default.prop isn't. I push it from PC, but it doesn't stick. I tried terminal emulater and it says it's read-only file system.

OK. Device isn't writable. The main drive where default.prop is stored.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Like I said you can;t write to it. That partition is rewritten from the boot.img after every reboot. The device is totally writable, Just not there.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
and that was successful and didn't bootloop correct? and you didn't make any other changes to the kernel source or ramdisk before you built it? if so could you link for other users please.

the issues with correcting permissions and ownership in system i know on the tablet through file mangers the permission don't seem to stick, do they stick if set via adb root?

i'm trying to determine if the maybe the issue has some thing to do with su or the way i installed su on the dev.system image?

if you could test changing permissions and ownership with adb shell then issue su and change permissions see if they hold.

then check the same thing with just adb root adb shell.

if they stick correctly through adb root and not adb shell su i would then like to try to have one of you flash the non rooted dev.system.img i'll send you another batch file to push su and a script to install su in a slightly different fashion.

before 4.3 there was really only one way to setup su and since 4.3 i've seen several different ways of setting up su during it's installation?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
can someone check something for me? power off the device when connect to the computer. after the charging animation starts issues adb root and let me know if it drops to a root shell.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Sorry. I misunderstood. Thought you did both props that way. My bad.
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
Update

Hello, my Venue 7 just received an update that is 6.8 MB. Does anyone know what I should do?
[Dell Venue] jmjoyas:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/alumgomj2c6j8n0/boot.img

I havent made any other changes other than setting those variables. The system boots fine with this kernel.

I havent seen any issue with file permissions. I have tried both adb shell as well as file managers. I will try again with a stock rooted dev image.

"adb shell" always take you to root shell.

Another thing that I have observed is that simply changing the permissions of build.prop to anything other than 644 causes bootloop

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I tried this. "adb root" gave "adbd is already running as root" and then "adb shell" gave me the root shell. The tablet is still showing the charging animation. I tried this with my modified kernel. I will try with the stock dev kernel and post back.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
no need thank you it should be the same
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
dont install it yet im working on something now for the venue 7
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Much appreciated. Was wary of trying any methods so far for fear of bricking my tab. Ready as willing tester for any root methods that you can provide.

Sent from one of my/our device/s
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
give me a little bit but ill have a rooted factory venue 7 image by the end of the day. :victory: my device got soft bricked before the lasted 6.5 mb update so the system.img will be pre that update. but this is going to come with a condition the user that is going to get the first flash before i upload it for all is going to have to have to download that update and send it to me and the are going to have to give me remote access to the device so i can dump the boot.img, the droidboot.img and the recovery.img so that i can fix my devices.

i have one user that has agreed to this already but time diff between the USA and his Timezone in Poland might make this hard so im looking for a back up user incase our timing doesn't match up.

god i was starting to pull my hair out to make this happen..... notice the root shell and the cat of build.prop to show it is the V7
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
RE: Update

Ok, Thanks
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Check my last post in the last page...
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
Venue 7

Incase things do not work out with the other guy I will be willing to do it.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
just got a couple of more test to do on my trick to dump the files i need off the of a Venue 7 so that i'll be able to get my device 100% working again this is awesome-sauce.:good:

but i do have the factory-system.img.gz and a rooted-factory.system.img.gz now.
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
What files? Unfortunately my tab is updated with the latest 6mb plus ota.

Sent from one of my/our device/s
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
that update has the ifwi.zip needed inside it i need this to fix my display, that use to be the only file i needed but to make this happen i had to replace boot droidboot and recovery, so now i need to use a trick i've been keeping to dump those images so i can flash my device back to working order.

after the flashing the rooted system it should be able to download the update again since the system image never had the update installed.

the root has issues not ready for user flashing it will drop to a root shell from a user shell but it does nothing permission denied are you root, gotta work this out still. researching.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
That's the weird thing for a couple of boot's I did get it to hold on the default prop. But it had to be some kind of glitch because I can't recreate it. I figured it was something to unique to the dev version at first.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I'll pm you when I'm not driving and explain to you what's going on. It has to do with how the device charges. I was going to earlier but I was focused on the v7...
[Dell Venue] blutruck:
What am I missing?

I successfully flashed the rooted firmware. I can see that it is rooted using adb root command. I cannot for the life of me to get superuser to work. I pushed the su file to sbin and installed the apk. What am I missing???
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Just flash the prerooted image in post 2
[Dell Venue] blutruck:
Done. I didn't realize you updated the files. Thanks!!
[Dell Venue] Tornade69:
Skype FC ???

Just flashed the pre-rooted image from post #2. So far everything is working good except for Skype Force closing on last version. Tried Some olders versions and skype get stuck after i click "connect"... Anyone else ??? I came from 4.2.2 root and Skype was working perfectly on this build.
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Post no 2 is for v8. Where is the image for v7?

Sent from one of my/our device/s
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/wcps27jfjygnwph/rooted_factory_v7_system.img.gz

flash with:

fastboot flash system rooted_factory_v7_system.img.gz

Do not extract it from gz this is the correct format for flashing more formal package will be up in the morning its been kind of crazy to night...
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
You used the old version (old as last week). Social-design has release a repackaged image with su and superuser installed. you can download that version and flash the system.img using

fastboot flash system rooted.dev.system.img
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Dropbox download is suspend now I'll get everything hosted somewhere that's better for the amount of traffic this was temporary.
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Known problem with dropbox. Can you share the dropbox folder/file with me? I'll pm you my dropbox ID.

Sent from one of my/our device/s
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
One most important question. Is it working with last 6.8MB update? This one which upgrades IFWI to F9.6C? I don't want to brick my V7.

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I'm waiting on kairnage to get back with me about this had some v8 users flashing the original jcase.v8.rooted.system.img I'm not sure if any of them had done that update before hand.

Either way in a couple of days I should have the rooted rooted.system.img for the v7 updated with that update.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Just give me a few hours I'll have the links updated getting ready for work.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
People please be patient and give me a few hours I'll have all the links updated I'm getting ready for work.

I'll post when everything is back up and ready.
[Dell Venue] darklordofthesith:
Is it worth updating to the newest version we worked on or keep what was done already. Just have the issue with Skype and xposed.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
The one that I have up should be the same as yours,
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
So, those who upgrade to newest V7 IFWI has to be patient and wait for new package.

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
They should wait for conformation at least

links are down new links will be up later to day please be patient and don't keep asking when...
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
One user told me they had for sure. I deleted all my PM so I can't be sure who it was.
[Dell Venue] jd95:
I have been trying but I just can not even get usb drivers to install.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
What Venue? What version of windows?
[Dell Venue] jd95:
It is the Venue 8, and windows 8.1 I keep saying failed install, and I think something about Hash not being right
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Google it you have to advance restart Windows 8 in a special mode to install unsigned drivers thats the issues your seeing.... when i update the first three post at some point i'll be including a link to the instructions for windows 8 unsigned driver install but no time now google is your friend... you've not done the dev conversion yet? if not when i post the updated link to factory v8 system image thats pre the 6.8mb update would you test flashing just that?
[Dell Venue] jd95:
no dont no conversion yet, I will test flashing it, I am a bit nervous about doing this because I dont want brick my tablet, but seems its hard to brick this one.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
the dev conversion can be used to unbricked i've not found away to brick it as long as you have the proper files to reflash everything in a worse case state.

built adb & fastboot driver if you don't have them

easy install unplug usb, power off device plug in usb to pc, when charging animation starts install driver from device manager

I don't have a Windows 8 machine not sure if the unsigned driver issue is only 64bit or 32bit also but instructions here

adb and fastboot for windows if you don't have them

extract the folder somewhere then inside the folder hold shift and then right click and select Open command window here

Original jcase rooted jb4.3 for Venue 8

DO NOT EXTRACT FROM THE .gz THIS FORMAT IS CORRECT FOR FLASHING WITH:

fastboot flash system jc_rooted_factory_v8jb4.3_system.img.gz
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
New links are back up

New links are back up:

sorry the post are kind of messy i'll clean the formating of the post up later just wanted to get the links back up.

see post #1 for flashing factory system image

see post #2 for v8 dev-edition conversion downloads
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
so dell updated the v8 dev edition files yesterday anyone download to see what's changed? i'll download tonight not enough time in the work day to download before going home.
[Dell Venue] joanthanmajh:
downloading now

They now include the iSocUSB (1.0.3) and xfstk (1.4.2) program setup files

The Venue8_version-1.22.zip is still the same
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
thank you.....

can you send me those and i'll update the package with them this evening. no point in downloading for two files.
[Dell Venue] joanthanmajh:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwvFJ8wh88noWHlIbFd6WUZTNnM/edit?usp=sharing iSocUSB

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwvFJ8wh88noeEpseHRtSk9RWGc/edit?usp=sharing xFSTK
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I think I figured out how jcase rooted it gonna test tonight..... if this works this is so stupid...
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
Root

Great! We have a root method, next step custom rom and kernel.
[Dell Venue] jd95:
getting ready to root, I will have supper user, to use programs that need permission and where do I find xfstk

downloader setup 1.5.1.exe
[Dell Venue] Breathe of fate:
social-design-concepts,

You are a Man! Thanks for root!
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
What device V7 or V8
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
They're included in dells new package but my all in one package for v8 has everything in post 2, if you don't need the ability to flash custom boot just flash the pre-root system from post 1
[Dell Venue] Breathe of fate:
v7.

I haven`t a root-access yet, just thanked you for your work :)

But one man from our Russian community now have it, I know he got it by following your instructions. If you need some information or smth else I could ask him.
[Dell Venue] jd95:
I am going use post one how do I push it, every time I try use fastboot, or adb a command prompt window opens for a second and then closes
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
This may be a dumb question but, what are the differences between regular root version and Dev version?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Might be easier if you just open the command prompt and cd to the directory containing fastboot and adb and run from there.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Sorry I had the users confused talking to to many people.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
The dev conversion gives you the ability to flash custom boot.img built with the tools in the dev-kernel source.

The system only is just rooted system.img.

Not sure what diff between the two system.img maybe kairnage can chime in on that.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
First time hosting off this site anyone having download issues?
[Dell Venue] jd95:
so confused on how root this, when I try to install xfstk all it does is goes into a cmd for a second, and not sure how to do it with post one. I really wanted try post 2 but cant get past the xfstk
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
please quote me in the future so i can better assist

you'll need to be more specific with the issue your having?

sorry my instructions are so basic sometimes i forget not everyone is as used to working with adb and fastboot as other user i'll package it the system.img.gz files together with a batch file to run tmrw to make it easier for user not so familiar with using adb and fastboot.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
It could be anything, dev bloat, maybe different versons of drivers. I haven;t really dug into to it but I think the stock system,img vs the dev, the dev was about 60MB bigger. But is there a big difference between the two? No.
[Dell Venue] jd95:
when you package it all together I will just need to hook it up to the computer and batch will do it. Will this give me Super user to, so many programs I miss having that needs root.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
you'll have to install the adb driver by hand and enable debugging under developer options but yeah.

i'm also gonna grab a fresh pc off the shelf at work and find the best method and tips i can for install the iSoc driver it seems to hang everybody up.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Just as a side note I think everybody should go the the Dell Facebook link in the OP and make a small comment just saying thanks for releasing the dev firmware for the 8. It doesn't hurt to show them it's appreciated, they even repacked the release to include the exe we needed, and a little sugar goes a long way

.
[Dell Venue] jd95:
All ready have adb installed, just excited to have root again miss a lot of my apps I had on my previous tablets.
[Dell Venue] death-people:
im sorry，i root my v7 by your step , but it stop in logo ,my device come from china ,i want to know anything wrong.
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
SIte

Nope it worked fine for me. Venue 7 successfully rooted.
[Dell Venue] LordKillZone:
Root V7

Hi,

Can somebody write the tutorial how root V7?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
the basic instructions are in post 1 but if you're not familiar with using adb and fastboot by the end of the day i'll have it pack together so you'll just have to install the driver and run a batch file.

if your wanting to know how the rooted system image came about for the v7 in the first place it took the fact that my venue 7 was soft bricked and i'll be doing a blog or some other type of write-up about it at some point. happy to say that even with dell not giving me the files i asked them for on facebook my device is 100% running again so the next step is to get the latest update applied and re-brick and re-root so the system image will be completely up to date.

my un-bricked rooted DELL Venue 7, from death, to root, to back to life, the power of determination, i wont take credit for just packaging the stuff all together for the V8 but i'll take 100% credit for bringing root to the V7 especially since all i had to go through to make this happen. i wonder if this is the first time a device got rooted by bricking it?

some people still refuse to believe it so here is a screenshot.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
So I need a Venue 8 user that only did the rooted system and not a full dev-edition conversion to contact me so I can walk them through the dump process of the factory boot, recovery, and fastboot images off the device so users that did the dev edition conversion can restore to a factory device if they choose.
[Dell Venue] :
Thanku so much for root method

Wysłane z mojego Venue 7 3730 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Dell Venue] Tornade69:
Thanks for bringing all this to us. Nice work guys!!! I'm just wondering if there's any way i can flash back the Rooted 4.3 system image from the Dev Edition. Now, i'm on the dev edition and having problem to start Skype so i'd like to try the other system image (post #1) to see if it have the skype Issue. Just not use to adb thing and fastboot... Just want to figure out what is causing the skype FC...

Thanks to all of you...
[Dell Venue] uan:
How to chk if either i'm rooted on full dev edition or not?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
if you only did the system.img in post 1 your factory if you used post 2 your dev-edition.....
[Dell Venue] Tornade69:
Deleted
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
from what i understand you can flash just the rooted factory image from post one after doing the dev-edition, im working on gathering all the files needed to convert the dev-edition back to factory if users want to.
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Requested file for venue 7 also (conversion from rooted to factory). Thanks.

Sent from one of my/our device/s
[Dell Venue] uan:
Then mine is dev edition. Sorry unable to help.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I have all the files to flash the Venue 7 back to non root factory state already they just aren't up yet they'll be linked at some point.
[Dell Venue] LordKillZone:
For now is only V7 system image root???? Will be a other methods?
[Dell Venue] jd95:
with all this opening up for the tablet does anyone think we will start seeing custom roms?
[Dell Venue] Tornade69:
Small update : I Just flashed the System Image from post #1 over the Dev Edition and now Skype is working perfectly so it's something wrong with the System image from the Dev Edition...

By the way, i tried to get the last small 6.8 mb update, it downloaded but while the rebooting in the installation process it throw me an Error message ... maybe because system is root ???
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Its because your boot, and droidboot are dev-edition still it fails on validating the patch files before it patches the files and applying the update will undo root. I'll be posting a tutorial at a later date on updating but I have to get the factory, boot droidboot and recovery off a device that only has done the factory system image not full dev v8 first.