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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
i need 2 volunteers

i need 2 volunteers

one volunteer that whats to do the full dev-edition conversion and will let me use there device to do a part conversions so i can dump a non rooted factory system image off it first then then ill root that device dump the rooted factory system image off so users that don't wanna do a full dev-edition conversion can just flash that and not lose future ota updates. then you can flash our full pre-rooted dev-edition system image and have a full dev edition.

the second volunteer, will flash the pre-rooted-factory-system.img and then i will use that device to dump the factory boot droidboot and recovery images off it using my dirty little secret.

i think for the average user flashing the pre-rooted-factory-system.img is going to be a better idea then the full dev-edition conversion but i need to build one on a device that's had all the ota updates first.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
would one of the users that's done this conversions already be willing to do this again using the all in one package i put together and instructions i'm working on writing it be nice to have a user that already done it use this all in one package and instruction and correct the instructions and add notes where needed since i don't have the device to properly verify everything i set it up to use the pre-rooted-dev-system xda user jmjoyas supplied for me. so out side of the driver installation it's just two batch files, no need to install the android-sdk or xfstk-downloader everything is included and runs self contained in one zipfile. a user that's never setup adb or fastboot before should be able to run it with out having to set up a whole bunch of stuff first.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
pm me i'll send you the link should be a cake walk to do.
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Should I take V8 out and recharge it? Or wait?
[Dell Venue] darklordofthesith:
I already downloaded the tools from the dell link posted earlier. Just need someone to guide me.
[Dell Venue] jayjr1105:
I'll be home in about 4 hours if you need me. Did Dell leak something recently? I missed that part of the excitement.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
they released a way to convert the venue 8 into a developer edition but you lose ota updates
[Dell Venue] darklordofthesith:
Well, I'm available with a stock v8 fully charged to work with.
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Count me in as volunteer for v7.

Dead Cookies leave no trails...
[Dell Venue] jp0555:
Count me in as a volunteer for the V8.
[Dell Venue] ns218:
I think I jumped the gun and should of probably waited, but I followed the instructions Dell provided to flash my tablet to a dev edition, that all went fine, then via adb I pushed over su, and installed supersu from the market, I can execute su from the adb shell but opening supersu on the tablet it prompts me that the SU binary needs to be updated, so I click continue, and the installation fails. I also tried pushing over the superuser.apk, but have similar issues where it cannot seem to update the su binary. What am I doing wrong?
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Awww whatimiss?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Venue_8_3840_Merrifield

They released the MDK (Mobile Device Kit) for the new Venue 8 so both Venue 8 2013 and 2014 support unsigned boot images. . .

They still haven't released one for the Venue 7 :( and sadly i cant buy a new device for a couple of months.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
it's actually explained during the rooting processes but to simply obtain an adb shell from fastboot you issue :

fastboot oem startftm

now to get a root shell you need to do a couple of things first :

this is only possible on JB4.1.2 - JB4.3 so on KitKat4.4.2 you first have to flash back to an older fastboot version.

in myKIT_BATCH I use the last captured JB4.3 fastboot.img for V7 / V8 WiFi this is JB4.3v1.25 for the V7 3G this is JB.4.3v1.22

after flashing back to a version of fastboot that this works on we push the adbd binary that was extracted from V8 DevEdition boot.img to the device with :

fastboot flash /sbin/adbd <DevEdition adbd location>

now we issuue the fastboot oem command above followed by :

adb shell

and now you have a root shell under fastboot .

now to maintain ota compatibility we need to either reboot back to fastboot and reflash the correct fastboot.img for the device or use the methed i use in myKIT_BATCH for patching the image back to the correct version.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Thanks for the reply, I work construction so I travel for work, will be another day before I can try this.

The info will help a lot, one last question, what is the process to flash unsigned boot.img on kitkat?

I need this to setup my dual boot, I dual boot all my androids, This way I can make any changes I want to the one running from sdcard and it doesn't affect the one on the phone.

Below is the dual boot method I use, and why I need to be able to flash an unsigned boot.img, Basically I just need the mount points in the boot.img changed from phone to sdcard.

http://www.chinaphonearena.com/forum/Thread-Tutorial-How-to-setup-dual-boot-on-MTK

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[Dell Venue] mattyhiway:
help using kk4.4.2v1.33_WiFi_ROOTKIT

This would be my first time rooting an android device, and have this nice Dell Venue 7 to work with. Tried both running 'launcher.bat' from inside the 7z file, and extracting it all, and running launcher.bat that way... both ways, I get

'""' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

Invalid Device:

Press any key to continue...

I tried running the batch file as adminstrator, also updated the Intel Android driver, still same result. Please help? I am looking to convert this Venue 7 in to my mobile pen testing unit... dSploit or something... need it rooted to do so.

~mattyhiway
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
factory restore

I apologize if this has already been asked/posted but how do I do a restore to factory so that I can ship back to Dell for warranty?
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
You have voided your warranty.

If you never flashed the v8dev then the best chance of them not knowing is flashing the kk or job image and not rooting.
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
I did not flash the Dev kit I would just like to flash a clean KitKat image as I have changed a few things like the bootsplash, and it did not reset it when I did a factory reset
[Dell Venue] Sportfreunde:
I rooted the tablet on the initial 4.4.2 update then updated it again and lost root. Just wondering which set of instruction/file from the OP I would follow in that case for a tablet with the newest firmware version.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
As long as it 4.4.2v1.33 use the myKIT_BATCHv1.1.x and the KitKat v1.33 rootKIT
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Thanks this works great, Crazy thing is I reboot into Linux I can still use adb with the tablet in this oem startftm mode just fine, yet fastboot binary doesn't see the tablet, no matter, from Linux I am able to mount /data and /sdcard and perform backups and restore via oem startftm mode , so this works as a CWM replacement, I have modified many stock recoveries on devices to allow adb support, which simulates a CWM recovery backup and restore.

Thanks a lot.
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
oem images

are there any oem image pkgs for my_kit available?
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
How did you replace the bootsplash? what else have you changed? what device do you have 7 or 8, with or without modem?
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
changed the boot splash with Boot Animations from the play store, installed xposed and modded a bunch of items such as battery icon etc. after doing a factory reset everything reverted to stock except the boot animation. i am using the 2013 venue 8 without modem.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Ok you replaced boot animation not bootsplash, which requires kernel to be unpacked, and repacked.

You just need to replace /system/media/bootanimation.zip

Do you have root? if so just use adb or root file manager to replace /system/media/bootanimation.zip, I will upload it for you and post you a link.

Here you go.

https://drive.google.com/#folders/0B_6NtXCtTLkHWkhkRzAtZW5KREk
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
thanks for your help but i have now managed to softbrick my tablet and looking for a way to fix it.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Ok, you didn't say that in your other post, Most likely I can fix that with my simulate CWM restore, but right now I am waiting on instructions on how to boot a nonsigned boot.img, After I get that, I will start my own thread on backing up and restoring Dell Venus 8, most likely works for 7 also, I don't have 7 to test though.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
No unsigned boot for v7 :(

He can flash a system.img.gz when I get them up I have to re vaildiated them do to some 7zip issues
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Ok, I didn't know that, So 7 wont be able to dual boot, ie run from sdcard, backup and restore 7 still should be able to do, as long as 7 can adb in fastboot.

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Ok, that will work also. My backups are also system.img.gz ie dell_V8_system.tgz which is tar backup, just use tar to extract, dell_V8_system.tgz overwrites current system files, with permissions intact just like a CWM backup and restore.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I just dd the partition.img the compress it to gz as that's the correct format for flashing in fastboot.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Yes, I dd all partitions on my phones but to restore system and data , I like to use tar backup and restore when possible though. Different strokes for different folks lol.
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
thanks for your help after a little persistence i managed to get into recovery and flash back to 4.3, the tablet is now booted and updating and ready to be shipped back to dell to get the back cover replaced.
[Dell Venue] bergerkos:
Hi everyone.

I highly appreciate everyone's efforts to root this device. I thought of trying Linux on it, that's why. But as to this rooting procedure, I have 2 questions and would be thankful if somebody could help me.

1. Apart from trying Linux on my Dell Venue 8, WHY ELSE might I need to root it? If I don't need overclocking or something -- why else? It is true, I can't have dmesg output in terminal emulator without root access (denied), but it's not that critical. And I can ping, ip route and the like.

2. In case I should make up my mind to root it: all the rooting methods described here always involve Windows 7/8 machine being connected to the device. But I DON'T use any Windows, only Linux and FreeBSD. Are these rootkits etc. usable from Linux? I've read something about Android SDK for Linux, which includes ADB server...

Thank you in advance for answer :).
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
The rooting in this thread is done via windows, cause fastboot doesn't work on linux, intel wont release a fastboot binary file or linux driver for their tablets.

I don't know of any other root method, besides this one, so can't advise you how to root without windows, computer.
[Dell Venue] bergerkos:
It seems there are Linux versions of fastboot -- according to some link I was unable to post ;) because I've posted too few messages... I'll check anyway.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
There are Linux fastboot binary files but they don't work with this tablet, Intel would need to release either a fastboot binary or a driver that would allow current fastboot binary files work with this tablet.

If you have a fastboot binary that you have tested and it works with this tablet, I am very interested in it, if you haven't tested it, I am not as I know it won't work.

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If you post a fastboot binary file, that works with this tablet I will walk you through rooting via Linux.

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[Dell Venue] bergerkos:
Ah, so you have tried yourself and it doesn't work! Ok... I just mistook your meaning.
[Dell Venue] tomtom1265:
Hey, vamp long time no talk, glad you have this device, it's dead no development on this tablet at all, really no point in rooted, as nothing can be done to tablet.

Can wait to see some serving on this tablet, when you think you will need any beta testers? Who or what instructions are you waiting on, maybe SDC can help, he is the only one that knows how to root this phone, he might know something about what you need.
[Dell Venue] Taroven:
Why would you not want to? Here's a few great reasons to root off the top of my head:

* Debian Kit (completely ignoring the "Apart from trying Linux" portion). My tablet does nearly everything a laptop can and it doesn't even affect performance in the process. Much more important for me being a developer, as it gives me access to tools that Android simply does not or can not effectively pull off. Use JuiceSSH, btw. It rocks.

* Xposed. Gravitybox, XHaloFloatingWindow, Complete Action Plus, App Settings, Greenify pimping... the list goes on. It's easy, and it's the most powerful collection of tools you can put on any Android device second to a Linux distro. It's hard to justify not using Xposed once you've experienced it, as it comes very close to a custom ROM in terms of what it can affect.

* Much better file sharing utilities (SMB/CIFS, NFS mounts, lots of other stuff) - get to your files no matter what device you're using, as if they were on the device itself.

* Titanium Backup and related tools (I've ran into so many JNI issues and app crashes on this thing that I've become obsessive about APK backups - if an update breaks something, there's usually no other way to roll back). The only way to perform backups without TB or something similar is via ADB, which generally sucks to use and doesn't give you other cool features like app freezing, system app conversion, and easy data/app-only restores.

Actual reason for posting: Anyone else having issues using Root Explorer on JB 4.3 (4.4 was having way too many JNI issues and SELinux was giving me all sorts of hell on the Debian side)? /system/bin isn't included in my $PATH at boot and even doing an "export PATH=$PATH:/system/bin" or symlinking my entire /system/bin to /system/xbin or somewhere else in PATH isn't doing anything productive, besides having to do it every boot... Root Explorer can't find mount or rm no matter what I do. :(
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Hi, funny you should mention SDC, umm I will address that later, there is a reason no development has been done on these tablets, main reason is one person who knows how things work on these dell tablets refuses to share the info he has, so there is no development.

The most ironic part is this person posted this, https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/topic/520555

I laughed twice when I read it, notice he states how it's unfair, yet he unfairly refuses to post info that will help V8 users and should really help Linux users.

With the ability to boot nonsigned boot.img Linux users won't need to use windows computer to do stuff.

Oh well got to go back to work, then I going to post here https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/topic/520555 about what I think of a person asking for help, yet when he is asked he refuses to help.

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Did you really say that . . . WOW . . . I gave you manual rooting instructions regardless of the fact that it is clearly spelled out during the rooting process. . . .

and i have a personal life a wife, a daughter with autism, a mother in-law that almost died 8 weeks ago, and work myself, sorry you haven't been at the top of my list.

https://software.intel.com/en-us/forums/topic/518378

here you go.

fastboot flash dnx CLVP_CYAB_P801_FwDnX_vF9.6C_ww42_005.bin (from v8 dev-edition)

fastboot flash ifwi CLVP_CYAB_IFWI_vF9.6C_ww42_005_P801_wifi_uos.bin (from v8 dev-edition)

fastboot reboot-bootloader

i thought you would of seen this already. . . since you commented on it. . .

how to properly extract the files from the kitkat boot img so you could build an unsigned kk boot.img

needed tools to unpack kitkat boot.img thanks [MENTION=5941423]pm-cz[/MENTION]

https://github.com/pm-cz/dell-venue-boot-tools.git

dvenue_unpack kitkat-boot.img bzImage ramdisk.img bootstub bootcmd

then use the tools provided with the v8 dev edition kernel source to repack as a boot.img

and here i even did the hard work and supplying the needed files to make your unsigned boot.img : View attachment 2913402

if you have questions about the process just ask and don't get huffy puffy if it takes me longer than 7 days to get back to you.

you act like I have some secret user guide and didn't have to dig through the web and do trial and error myself. learn to use Google , and Google Translate all this information is out there just requires digging and the ability to put 2 and 2 together.

you didn't have to be a **** you simply could of asked again in a pm and just like i did with the manual rooting / root shell through fastboot i would of eventually replied.

and don't take your childish banter to the intel forum those user don't want to hear it.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
Lol, what is your problem? No one is following you, I am on Intel asking for Linux fastboot.

No matter, Have a nice day.

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
you are my problem make an accusation that i'm refusing to share when simply its not on the top of my priority list, and saying your going to go to the intel thread and share how you really feel about the poster. . .

im sorry my life is busy but you could of been nicer.

i didn't mean follow like me. . . i meant like your following the thread over on intel but either way above is all the info you accused me of with-holding. . . i hope it helps you in your dev work. . .

and now to put this behind us and to rest i apologize for any thing i might of said i was a little bothered by your accusations and let it get the best of me so again my deepest apologizes and hope the both of us can move forward forgetting all about the past few post. if you need any more info from me use :

@social-design-concepts

in this thread so any questions i answer will be available for all to see. . .
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
they just released unsigned boot.img support for the Merrifield Venue 7 3740 still no love for the CLovertrail Plus Venue 7 3730 :(
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Clovertrail is old hat.... though the new venue specs are poor, except for the Merrifield processor!

Dead Cookies leave no trails...
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
yeah i know but come one they could still release the mdk for it. . .
[Dell Venue] cline2:
What's the difference between them? I have Venue 8 3830. Does mdk still work for 3830? Or only for 3840?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
MDK (Mobile Device Kit) is the Dev-Edition the Dell Venue 8 3830 has had it since March.

3840 got it last Thursday and 3740 got it today

The 3830 / 3730 are Clovertrail Plus SOC and the 3840 / 3740 are Merrifield SOC
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Oh I guess mine is fine. Just different speed. I like mine. I have no issues with it.
[Dell Venue] WapGiovan:
Rooting reasons

First of all thanks EVERYONE who in some way have tried to help users of this tablet.

As a comment to an earlier post regarding rooting - my one and only reason is to be able to take a screen shot. I'm way too illiterate to give this a try.
[Dell Venue] bergerkos:
Hey, Taroven, thank you for your detailed answer :). This is actually what I wanted to know (by "trying Linux" I only meant TRYING if it would run). And by now I have myself learned a couple of reasons why: for example, to do the reverse USB tethering, which I prefer much over Wi-Fi for some reasons of my own. In fact, Android IS ready for that, I can ping both ways with my PC -- but it won't allow setting the default route. And yes, I start missing these other things Linux can and Android can NOT do. And finally, the way Android is BOUND to Google in all possible ways -- I'm not so very much enchanted with this either.

They only problem I've so far found out: Dell Venue 8 (NOT Pro!) has a 32-bit processor (Intel Atom), and some posts say there's no 32-bit UEFI installer in Ubuntu, which allegedly makes the installation impossible... Is there any truth in that general idea? I'll dig myself into it, but maybe you already have a definitive answer? Surely, a 32-bit UEFI stuff could be built from source even if it's not present in the installation-ready images?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
The 32bit Clovertrail Plus Venue 7 3730 / Venue 8 3830 or the NEW 64bit Merrifield Venue 7 3830 / Venue 8 3840 do not use EFI or BIOS they have an SFI (Simple Firmware Interface)
[Dell Venue] Taroven:
The routing issue should be a little easier to handle via Debian Kit if you choose that route.

I, for one, welcome our Googly overlords.

Seriously though, it's really not "all possible ways". You can kill off everything on the Google Apps list (apps included by Google that aren't part of AOSP) and that's 99% of it. The other 1% can be covered via firewall (there's a beautiful iptables frontend with Xposed hax for even more power) or however else you like, if it even exists as more than a "Hi, do I have actual interwebs access?" signal. I can't personally justify Android-oriented paranoia or corporate fist-shaking, so I just enjoy it for what it is: An awesome Linux-based OS with a massive developer base.

Adding to this: If you choose to use Debian Kit, it's a bootstrap method, not a replacement for Android. Android and the Linux install interact - processes from either are visible on both, they use the same users and permissions, they even share environment variables. The only downside versus a traditional Linux install is that you end up doing everything from shell (your pick between local and SSH) and remote desktop to localhost. Which actually isn't so bad, considering that it completely sidesteps a lot of issues that would otherwise be difficult to work around.
[Dell Venue] bergerkos:
Oh, I'm completely comfortable with the shell :). BTW, I've noticed my Andorid contains busybox binary in it, which in turn has everything one needs. If only the binary could be set SUID, the rooting would have been done.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
[MENTION=4821597]social-design-concepts[/MENTION]

Been sick, have made a little progress, will continue working on it, depending on health.

Good news and bad news.

I can't flash any images packed via dev edition tools, eg boot.img, recovery.img

I can flash both modified recovery.img and boot.img packed via pm tools.

I can get adb working in recovery, so flashing cwm recovery can be done, but more work needs to be done first.

I can't get boot.img unsecure, it will boot with default.prop changed but only $ until I type su.

Changing adbd only results in no adb, so to get adb I have to use stock adbd.

anyway modified boot.img and recovery.img can be flashed so that is a big plus, working out why I can't get # in recovery mode is the challenge now.

Anyway thanks for the help, hopefully we can work together, instead of against.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Get well and I'll look into it tonight
[Dell Venue] bergerkos:
And how about The method described here ? It doesn't seem to depend on Windows?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
You loose ota support and its jb and if your device is new than the build the ota supports it won't install and your back to windows.
[Dell Venue] hellyeah27:
can anyone tell me the right steps to fastboot flash on acer iconiaa1-830 , i have the files that he uploaded , and tutorial to fastboot on nexus , but the names arent the same and i dont want to break the tablet , so if u can tell me the right steps to do it ... thanks