yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hi

Because a user can't have the right to know why the N5 scores lower in benches compared to other devices with the same hardware???

It's nonsense to me such a reply like yours.

Nobody is speaking about smoothness or not..., maybe YOU don't care about benches, but other users could care and I don't see a problem to that.

Always the same posts/replies like that again and again when there is the word "benchmark" is annoying. Well, it's the "good thought" to follow about benches... :(
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] malibu_23:
Your worrying about the wrong things. But to each his own. Benches are just big **** contests.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Benchmarks don't reflect real use. Everyone knows that....and that's why most could care less about them.

But hey....knock yourselves out trying to improve yours. ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

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Example...Many people say their S4 lags, especially right out of the box.....yet it can score higher than an N5....according to this thread?

Laughable. ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lucky_Slevin:
The S4 is a very poor quality and performing device. I had one for a week and the lag kills me. Everyone knows benchmarks are useless
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Primokorn:
I don't care about benchmarks too but regarding Samsung's latest devices the benchmarks have been (will be :rolleyes:) rigged. This contributes to the poor interest of benchmarks but we can't compare the Galaxy UI lags with the scores provided in the benchmarks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WarRaven:
If you don't care about benches, fine. But to come an crap all over those that find interest in them, that is troll like behavior.

If you do not subscribe or care, why the Frak did you open this thread an then spew nonsense into it on those participating?

Ridiculous is the useless negative replies in this thread!

WR

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
The "negative " posts as they're being called are directly answering the title of the thread. Explaining why, in the posters opinion, those devices score better.

If answers that don't agree with your opinion upset anyone, don't ask the question to begin with.

So to summarize: why does the N5 score lower, when in real life application it obviously performs better? Cause benchmarks don't reflect real use, maybe they are biased...etc etc.

A relevant, opinion based answer.

Please don't call me a troll cause I have a reasonable opinion.

Calling people a troll btw, unless it is obvious they are just trying to cause trouble, is disrespectful and against xda rules. If you think they are trolling, report the post and let a moderator decide.

Thank you. :)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
Lets sue the OP for wasting a (small) part of our life :D:D (jk). Thread with little value or importance.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WarRaven:
Its not a waste, and is a genuine question.

Talk about no value and I believe you hit it squarely on the head.

Again, if its not worthy to you, why crap on it?

WR

Sent from my Nexus 5

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No wonder people that help here, stop eventually.

Negative Nancy's nearly everywhere.

WR

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] gee2012:
People that genuinly want to help will keep on doing so, folks that are after raising the thanks meter wil stop eventualy. Has nothing to do with `negativ` comments imo. there are no saints here. Sometimes you get fedup with these type of pointless threads.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WarRaven:
My point still stands, to offer nothing constructive but negative is trolling like behavior.

WR

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
My friend.....what have you done your last few posts, except complain about other posts?

And again.....you're generalizing the term negative (and attaching the word troll to it) because you disagree with some people.

Who's trolling here really?

If I say that most the respected actual contributers on xda (aka devs ) would agree that benchmarks do not reflect real life experience .......therefore, some may say they're meaningless......that makes me a troll? Cause you disagree?

Now a large part of anything on xda is based off opinions.....and opinions that don't coincide with yours should not be labeled trolling.

So really, have a more open mind. Almost every thread on xda has its share of debate. People disagree, that's life. Stop antagonizing people by telling them to leave the thread or calling them a troll. Or else you could find the devs coming down on you....not the "trolls".

Sorry for the OT......I'm done. ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WarRaven:
Not mixing words, I said troll like behavior.

WR

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
So you're a smart antagonist......awesome. ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

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Didn't mean to quote that first one. Sorry FuMMoD. :)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WarRaven:
I'm the antagonist, lol I called them out after they shunned contributors to the thread.

Good grief, no wonder many walk away like I am going to now.

WR

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FuMMoD:
Not everyone from Asia is Chinese and not everything in Asia is from China. Just saying Samsung is South Korean not Chinese.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
to most people, benchmarks mean nothing and are a way to judge penis size. that said, to others benchmarks use as a useful tool. like to certain developers, who these benchmark numbers tell them whether their changes are having an affect, good or bad. then there are those that just enjoy doing the benchmarks, that constantly try to make their devices just a bit faster than they came stock, and arent about penis size. and there are more reasons.

anyways, some companies cheat, just as much as some people cheat. it happens. its part of being human. mostly the reason that these other phones score better, as stated, are these companies private optimizations, like dalvik. why do you think there ate so many nexus 5 users that are using the moto x dalvik, or the z2 dalvik? its because we are cheaters! well, not really. its because all we want to get the most out of our devices as possible, thats all.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lucky_Slevin:
This thread should of ended as soon as it started with a statement like this...

Because they cheat/bend the rules/optimize whatever word you want to use but that just answered your question OP.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I originally quoted you by accident. LOL

And I totally agree! ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] FuMMoD:
Oh lol no worries. I actually thought they were Japanese when I first heard about them years ago. I felt like a dumba## when I figured out they weren't haha.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
I thought China. Lol

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] howard bamber:
The n5is pure kk. As others say qualcom bionic patches do it. As they are locked, private code google won't allow on a nexus so adding evens the field I score same as mi 3etc
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MGREX:
I know I know, just saying that I thought only generic chinese companies cheated, but it seems practically everyone but a few cheat as well...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dicecuber:
N5 is a mid end bargain phone

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lucky_Slevin:
Why ? I consider it a higher end phone than the likes of many so called flagship devices.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MGREX:
Funny since all the top of the top of phones uses the S800, just like the N5

Its not a bargain phone, its just a not-total-ripoff phone, which many others are
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] howard bamber:
Snobs and idiots pay twice as much for the same guts

Sent by mobile telephone.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Baldilocks:
I'm on stock ROM. I'm getting higher scores than most of the LG G2's. (shrug)

Quadrant hasn't even been updated in almost 2 years. :) I just installed these apps to test for this thread. Already uninstalled. Really don't even care about benchmark scores. This phone runs flawlessly.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ApriliaM3:
I think this thread has achieved everything it was ever likely to achieve :eek:

Thread closed.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
http://www.engadget.com/2014/03/11/exetech-xs-3-smartwatch-hands-on/

Anyone know more about this watch?
[Other SmartWatches] SayWhat10:
Pretty expensive. And no back? Battery exposed, I dunno...
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I have no clue why there is no back.
[Other SmartWatches] vectron:
It would make sense if they plan to have different capacity batteries, but it only comes with 450mAh (versus Omate 600mAh). And even if you could use a thicker battery, that smartwatch is enormous to begin with (didn't engadget mentioned 20mm?). I don't see anything special about it, it looks very thick and bulky, open back makes it vulnerable, and the price tag of $450 when similar smartphone-watches cost $200?!? They must be smoking the same thing as I'm Watch :rolleyes:
[Other SmartWatches] BigBison420:
That is basically a Glorified ZGPAX - It's running the exact same 4.0.4 ICS operation system as ZGAPX.

differences:

Who knows the actual processor speed of this exetech watch, but it's also a mediatek device like the zgpax, so it's probably the dual core 1Ghz

No mention of ram

Less storage only 2GB vs 4GB (zgpax)

MUCH more bulkier looking
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
All good to know even if I am not buying one.
[Other SmartWatches] lotontech:
Exetech XS-3 vs. EC309 TIGON SmartWatch

The functionality and specification looks at lot like the EC309 TIGON SmartWatch-SmartPhone, except that the latter can be bought for roughly half the price.
[Other SmartWatches] speedyink:
It seriously looks like they're going to sell this backless. I mean, look at the battery, it's got all the markings the back plate usually would have. Imagine how much fun you'd have if you got water in there and that battery shorted out right on your wrist =P
[Other SmartWatches] SlashSpeed:
It's actually being sold at their homepage: http://exetech.tictail.com/

It's 349€. I find that as a tasteless joke. What a ripoff.
[Other SmartWatches] ronaldheld:
I am certain it will sell, just not to whom.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] OmarEinea:
:::.OmniROM Section.:::

What is working! :

Wi-Fi

Bluetooth

GPS is incredibly fast

Camera (rear and front)

3G & Calling & SMS [P7300]

Sound and Recording

USB Connection

Sdcard

Apps

Torch

KeyBoard

Screenshots

Reboot into recovery

ART function is kinda working

OmniSwitch (needs reboot to enable)

Everything else seems to be fine

Known Issues :

I didn't found any (yet)

I'll enlist every bug that users report here;)

Screenshots :

Instructions :

Copy the zip to your device

Reboot into recovery

Backup of your system (optional)

Do a factory reset and format [/system & /data & /cache]

Flash the Zip

SuperSU is included in the ROM, no need to flash

Download links :

GT-P7300 (3G): omni-4.4.4-20140726-p5-HOMEMADE.zip - 173 MB

GT-P7310 (WiFi): omni-4.4.4-20140726-p5wifi-HOMEMADE.zip - 169.3 MB

Old Releases:

Omni ROM for GT-P7300 (3G): omni-4.4.4-20140708-p5-HOMEMADE.zip - 172.55 MB

Omni ROM for GT-P7310 (WiFi): omni-4.4.4-20140708-p5wifi-HOMEMADE.zip - 168.91 MB

Omni ROM for GT-P7300 (3G): omni-4.4.3-20140612-p5-homemade.zip - 171.88 MB

Omni ROM for GT-P7310 (WiFi): omni-4.4.3-20140612-p5wifi-homemade.zip - 170.38 MB

Credits & Special thanks :

AAccount (the maintainer)

kasper_h (he is the best)

pax0r

Hurrian

pershoot

Omni team
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] OmarEinea:
Gapps For KK ROMs [ART Compatible]

GApps Standard 4.4.2 (27/2)

Removes AOSP Camera and AOSP Gallery and Replaces it with the Google variants

Removes AOSP Launcher2/Launcher 3 and CM Trebuchet and Replaces it with Google Now Launcher

Adds Google Search aka Google Now

All necessary syncing apks and libs

GApps Minimal 4.4.2 (27/2)

~20 MB

Playstore

Syncing apks and libs, etc.

Google Camera 4.4.2 (16/1)

Automatically removes AOSP Camera/Gallery and adds Google Camera/Gallery

FaceLock 4.4.2 (16/1)

Adds Face unlock

GenieWidget 4.4.2 (16/1)

Adds stock news and weather widget

AOSP Calendar Sync 4.4.2 (16/1)

Adds syncing ability for AOSP Calendar (not in Core or Standard packages)

AOSP Browser Sync 4.4.2 (16/1)

Adds syncing ability for AOSP Browser (not in Core or Standard packages)

Original Thread (you can find more Gapps mirrors here)

Personally I prefer [and have tested] the minimal Gapps package, it is the best
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] ehcan:
Will try it out ASAP. OMNI pave the way but Nameless is by far much faster.

So far this is what I got. Installed right over the previous version of Nameless without wipe. Have to reinstalled the Xposed (expected).

Works:

- 3G

- Wifi

- Wifi Location

- GPS

- Camera (front and back)

Not Working:

- Voice Calls (partially, headphone is OK, tablet microphone does not)

Not tried:

- Bluetooth

- ART (using Xposed so can't do it)

Issues: (Asides from the issues reported from the Nameless P4 thread)

- SystemUI crashes once at after each reboot when using Xposed framework but managed to come back right away and things seems to work OK.

- Lockscreen rotation does not observe the rotation lock flag

- Maps direction is 180 degrees off.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] Anubiszx:
I have a Galaxy Tab 8.9 and I use it mostly for playing music right now, so if I can help with the development let me know :)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] abadan:
which one is better??
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] OmarEinea:
Nameless ROM is more stable, although you might have system UI force close once every boot

[it is also happening in the latest build on p4 thread, not a problem with my port]

Omni ROM has tons of features and currently there is no force close in it

so the choice is yours;), another thing to mention though, users like Nameless more than Omni [all of them will advise you to use Namless]
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] abadan:
ok , i will try nameless and feedback about it,

and try omni too....

have good time?

SEND BY XPERIA HONAMI

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hey!

downloading....

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does it support multi windows?

does it support xposed mods?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] decky006:
I did a quick test by doing dirty upgrade over the last omni build. Was very slow after bootup for about 5 minutes but after that has been excellent. It is noticeably better than omni in terms of speed and smoothness. Still running dalvik mode as I have xposed installed, but going to remove it and try changing to art mode.

I have had the FC mentioned in the OP but recovers and can get back into settings ok.

Only really minor issue so far is on the lock screen, when there are notifications underneath the unlock button, I cant press the button. Its the notification that gets selected.

Great work with this rom. This may stop me going back to your modified stock ICS build.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] abadan:
hi.

i flash it whitout any wipe and its very cool now, thanks....

SEND BY XPERIA HONAMI
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] abadan:
please add file manager for nameless

------------

i cant install any thing in nameless

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but nameless is very smooth !

thanks:laugh:
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] OmarEinea:
Hmmm, you should send any file manager to your tab through Bluetooth, then install it

I mean I didn't remove anything when I ported the ROM so it is default in Nameless ROM that it doesn't have file manager

and it's kinda hard to reupload the ROM again, maybe in the next build.

So if bluetooth way doesn't work for some reason, I can make you a flashable zip to install a file manager;)
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] abadan:
yeah , you are right.

i have omni now!

why :

1.nameless was better than omni in some sections , and had very well charge.

2.name less was smooth and gread in every section!

3.nameless browser had broken for me!

4.nameless had some other greade extra than omni.

1.omni is smoother than namelees for me.

2.omni dont have any bug!

3.omni support more thing and have some good ...

4.omni is more better for me!

5.i dont know why , but i have joy with it.

6.i think its the best rom that i have seen ever.

but it is my idea!

you may flash other rom?

and thanks for port these roms.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] iZLeeP:
Same here, I use the minimal Gapps of [MENTION=2915683]BaNkS[/MENTION].

Some observations using this ROM:

1. HD videos stutter (youtube & mx player) same as on the P4

2. screen flickers on some games like PVZ2, etc. even candy crush

3. wifi & 3g, gets broken sometimes (keeps on searching, disconnect, then afterwhile connect)

4. auto-brightness seems off or rather delayed. not as responsive as stock

5. skype video call not working (no video at all). maybe an issue with skype?

Overall, this is still better than omni. Next time will test OC, ART and scripts.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] abadan:
hi.

why i cant use wifi direct?
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] upconvert:
This ROM is quite good. Great options, nice look. It seems to have a similar lag to other good ROMs for this tablet.

I've noticed that the tab is not entering deep sleep. There are two wakelocks that are on too much: tx_hsic and wlan_rx_wake.

Thanks again!
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] iZLeeP:
You're getting tx_hsic wakelocks? HSIC wakelocks are related only to 3g models, so maybe kernel used was for P7500 since you can use P7500 kernel for P7510. As for wlan_rx_wake, try to turnoff wifi or set tab to flight mode.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] ehcan:
New version up on the P7500 thread. Hopefully, we will soon see the P7300/7310 port
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] OmarEinea:
I have ported it yesterday, and the links are in the OP, build date is 23-Mar-2014

Please read before you post
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] ehcan:
My apologies. Have updated the 23-03 version over 10-03. So far so good.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] jolinnard:
Ok, another try... New version v7 has a few kernel 3.2 improvements in network and filesystem.

Figue kernel v7 p5wifi

Figue kernel v7 p5 (3G)

My sources are here.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] L3R0N:
Downloading now, will flash and report back.

Edit: this is amazing. Everything is just so much smoother than before. 3G works, WiFi and all else works so far. Haven't tested calls yet but I guess the tablet microphone does not work in voice calls as with the other builds. Haven't tried it yet though.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] jolinnard:
Awesome!

I will try to cherry pick more commits. Maybe we could merge F2FS and try if we can improve filesystem read/write access. Also, fiops is another challenge, because I don't know if it can be merged. And UKSM should be more easy to merge.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] L3R0N:
Great...one observation though, I've noticed that the battery has drained faster than usual. Its overclocked though. I'm going to recharge then run with over clocking disabled to check if the battery still drains quickly. But I've come from 100% to 34% in just about three hours.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] jolinnard:
This is weird... Flashed yesterday v7 and battery is great. I don't think your drain is for overclock. Check CPU frequencies, but they should be: 1400 max, 216 min.

Also, check what process is draining battery.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] L3R0N:
OK so the battery has settled and its now working fine. Rapid drain seemed to have been fixed by a full recharge and a reboot. Not sure sure why it happened in the first place. But this is by far the smoothest I've seen for nameless on this tab.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] jolinnard:
OK!

And... what about convert partitions to F2FS?

I spent a few hours making a new recovery with F2FS support, then ROM zip and gapps zip need few patches and, of course, fstab needs to be changed in initramfs image to boot. This is the result: system partition in f2fs and it works! ;)

root@p5wifi:/ # mount | grep sdhci-tegra.3
/dev/block/platform/sdhci-tegra.3/by-num/p4 [B][SIZE="5"]/system f2fs[/SIZE][/B] ro,relatime,background_gc=off,discard,user_xattr,acl,errors=recover,active_logs=6 0 0
/dev/block/platform/sdhci-tegra.3/by-num/p5 /cache ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,errors=panic,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,journal_async_commit 0 0
/dev/block/platform/sdhci-tegra.3/by-num/p8 /data ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,journal_async_commit,data=ordered 0 0
/dev/block/platform/sdhci-tegra.3/by-num/p1 /efs ext4 rw,nosuid,nodev,noatime,errors=panic,user_xattr,acl,barrier=1,journal_async_commit,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc 0 0
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] L3R0N:
Now that is just plain awesome work on your part. F2FS should help with performance and make this tab a tad faster. Couldnt this be done before with twrp though? The formatting as f2fs part. Not sure whether it would've allowed flashing of f2fs friendly ROMs tho. But I may be wrong. :) Another thing I've observed with the current ROM and kernel is that the tab now has problems waking up from deep sleep. Left it for about 30 mins then it flat out refused to turn the screen on. Had to press the power key till it restarted.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] jolinnard:
Ok, maybe it's something related to kernel. I found a bad configuration for your modem. Try the new version:

Figue-boot-v8-p5-3G

Figue-boot-v8-p5wifi

F2FS builds:

Figue-boot-v8-p5wifi-system-f2fs --> version with /system in F2FS

TWRP with f2fs support for p5wifi --> TWRP interface doesn't have an option to format in f2fs. mkfs and fsck commands aren't in ramdisk, so for instance you can get them from the kernel zip or from your ROM in /system/bin

Latest Nameless ROM with /system in F2FS --> p5wifi

pa-gapps for /system in F2FS
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] L3R0N:
Wow that was quick. Will try it out and report back. Don't have WiFi version of tab so I can't test the WiFi build.
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] decky006:
I had issues with cm11 so am now running the latest nameless with v7 kernel. Seems good so far.

The only minor issue i have found is the init.d script doesnt set the min and max cpu freq. I ran it manually and it gives a permissions error on those 2 commands. The swapon command also errors. See below.

root@p5wifi:/etc/init.d # sh figue-settings

figue-settings[4]: can't create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_min_freq: Permission denied

figue-settings[5]: can't create /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/cpuinfo_max_freq: Permission denied

Setting up swapspace version 1, size = 33550336 bytes

UUID=5ada6af0-87ad-4505-879e-ca174c375d10

swapon: /dev/block/zram0: Device or resource busy

root@p5wifi:/etc/init.d #
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] jolinnard:
Do you have TWRP 2.7.0.1? In that case, please, boot into recovery, pull /proc/config.gz and upload it. I want to compare it with p5wifi configuration ;)

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Fixed in v9. Thank you!

Figue-boot-v9-p5wifi.zip

Figue-boot-v9-p5-3G.zip
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] L3R0N:
Sorry to have kept you waiting but the v8 kernel totally screwed me over. Flashed it and tab didn't boot. But here you go
[Galaxy Tab 8.9 Android Development] decky006:
V9 works ok. It didnt run automatically on reboot so need to investigate. Thanks