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[Moto X General] leffer:
Ahhh sweet success.

Sent the $40 to his email address through PayPal on Friday night, got the code Saturday mid day.

Finally had time to unlock today and it was a great feeling.

I installed jp's deodexed completely stock (but rooted) 4.4.2 rom in the Android Development forum.
[Moto X General] whatnow275:
Sent my Isis with imei and email in comments
[Moto X General] streetlightman:
Probably a stupid question

Probably a stupid question but does this work with the non-dev verizon phone purchased from moto maker?
[Moto X General] jasoraso:
Yes! :)

at least, it has on most phones. There are apparently one or 2 phones out there for which he didn't have the code, but generally speaking, yes it will. He suggests you email your IMEI first to verify that he has/can get the code for that phone before paying, so that he wouldn't have to refund the $.
[Moto X General] wctaylor79:
Worked fine on my moto maker Verizon.. :)
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
I used the $40 free Isis money for gas and went ahead and paypal'd the guy directly. Will update back with my results.
[Moto X General] seanc56:
I paid my money and received a code earlier today. Finally unlocked and everything worked well. Alsmost too good to be true, but now I am unlocked and rooted and on 4.4.2. This truly is the best phone now
[Moto X General] wturner859:
Sent my money at about noon today and about 2 hours later sent a "hey just making sure you got my money and everything's cool" kind of email in hopes of getting a reassurance response like other people have reported but I still haven't gotten a response... Getting anxious... But no one else has reported getting zero response.
[Moto X General] iaRIVR:
Just to chime in- this thread wasn't very active over the weekend and I thought maybe he was out of codes, I sent a paypal payment on Saturday night and got the code back Sunday morning. He wasn't as responsive as some people have experienced, but I did get it with no problems.

Have to say I couldn't be happier, not as much for development but just knowing I have root, flashed faux kernel and running nitro's rom, very glad I have the freedom and control.
[Moto X General] wturner859:
yeah, if this works out then this phone will essentially become the Verizon nexus I wanted it to be.
[Moto X General] budakmaran:
Just sent the man usd40 via paypal..

also notified him via email..

hope can get it soon...

will update later upon receive the code and successfully unlock the bootloader..
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
This is for the non-DE moto maker VZW phone. What's stupid would be to do this to the dev phone because the dev phone can be unlocked officially without having to pay anything.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Answered in the opening paragraphs of -> POST #394 of this thread But Yes, this works for the Moto Maker and Retail Verizon and AT&T Moto X's.

It appears there are one or two Droid Ultra (XT1080) users who have successfully used this too.

It may also work for other carrier Non-Developer Edition X's where moto doesn't give out the code on their web site.
[Moto X General] tekhna:
Because it's been 2 hours maybe? Patience.
[Moto X General] buschris:
Sent mine last night via Paypal, fingers crossed!
[Moto X General] wturner859:
Well it has been 21 hours since I sent the money.
[Moto X General] southern87:
He told me 24 hrs. I wonder of different models take longer than others.

So that in mind.

How long did it take for Verizon people? And same for everyone
[Moto X General] buschris:
If everyone would stop f&@%#ng emailing the guy, perhaps he could get the codes faster? Geez
[Moto X General] southern87:
Just got a email. 1/2 hr done. I wonder if he has a database(s) and its encrypted. A lookup would only take minutes on unencrypted files.
[Moto X General] wctaylor79:
Took right around full 24 hours for me.. Verizon.. Although the sellers post and info says it could take up to 48 hours... Was a nervous wreck waiting when I sent my money.. But he does come through..
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
With this person being in China, and if they have a life (or job) outside of selling these unlock codes, I could definitely understand delays making it take longer than 48 hours in some cases.
[Moto X General] buschris:
woohoo just got my code! Took less than 12 hours... Used PayPal to the email address in this thread. Profit!

Screw you Verizon! lol
[Moto X General] wturner859:
Got mine. 22 hours. woot. And worked like a charm... We also need to keep our mouths shut about this as much as possible... If people find out by browsing awesome, but the guy requests we don't spread it too much in fear of getting shut down and possibly even fired if he worked for Google or moto in some capacity. He's just helping us out. I doubt he's trying to make a living off of this. Don't like advertise this on reddit or something.
[Moto X General] dacek:
Got mine!! Almost 24 hours exactly. I went directly through paypal.
[Moto X General] southern87:
Just got mine.

He/She has limited access to whatever.
[Moto X General] aweber1nj:
Got mine via the direct/PayPal method in about 18hrs, but give him credit...I started the process at 4:30PM EST, which might be 4 or 5:30AM in China.

Backing-up my phone now and will try the code ASAP.
[Moto X General] budakmaran:
also got mine..

maybe he prefer to gather as much of imei, before sending out the unlock code..

one time job per day
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
Still waiting here, sent my paypal and imei information over yesterday about 4pm Arizona time. Its only been a 14 hours or so so I'm not too worried, the guy has gotten so many people unlock codes already...
[Moto X General] That Ain't Falco!!!:
Has this been confirmed to work on someone's AT&T branded phone already running the 4.4.2 OTA? Also, the taobao thing is unnecessary now, correct? I can just paypal him the money directly with my IMEI in the instructions box? Thank you.

Sorry if I missed something, I think I covered all of the thread. I just really don't want to risk losing my $40 or especially my Moto X.
[Moto X General] :
Lots of at&t phones apparently unlocked.

And your android version doesn't matter.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] That Ain't Falco!!!:
Wonderful, thank you. I guess the things I heard about 4.4.2 were just for downgrading then.

I'll give it try this afternoon and report back.
[Moto X General] aweber1nj:
Sorry to quote myself, but wanted to keep it relevant...

Code worked perfectly. (Moto Maker VZ MotoX)
[Moto X General] sconchiti:
Used the direct payment method via PayPal to sbdnyy@163.com. Received my code in just under 24 hrs. (sent at 10am CDT Wed.) Will unlock this weekend.

I have a Verizon retail phone purchase via phone call on release day. Looking forward to having perpetual root and r/w access.
[Moto X General] xicor37:
Still working

I sent $40usd directly to his email via paypal at 11pm est on 3/26/14

I received my unlock code at 10am est on 3/27/14

My Verizon Droid Maxx is now unlocked!
[Moto X General] greenjeans:
I used the direct payment method as well. I sent $40 to sbdnyy@163.com with my IMEI, along with an email. He replied to my email within a few hours, and I received my code after ~16 hrs. It worked perfectly, bootloader unlocked!
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
For those with long waits check your spam folder. I ordered mine at 630 this morning and I just checked and sure enough I had a code sitting there the last few hours. I guess its the Chinese script that flags it. I paypald him directly.
[Moto X General] WhosToBlame:
Just sent mine in. Will keep this updated once I receive code. Used the paypal direct option.
[Moto X General] addictedhacks:
Is this for carrier unlock or bootloader for custom ROM's?? Never heard of imei being used to unlock the bootloader
[Moto X General] :
That's exactly how it works for the official Motorola method. ;)

Imei is how they know one phone from another.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] fury683:
Seems like there has been an influx of new successful unlocks in the last few days. Have all of you been voting in the poll?
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
Seems like there were quite a few people that submitted payments after I did that already got their unlock codes... I haven't heard anything from the guy yet. Nothing in spam either. PayPal direct payment to his email address and funds were delivered.

sent from my thumbs...
[Moto X General] timeToy:
Any success on Verizon with this ?
[Moto X General] jimmiet:
There have been many people on VZW that have had success. I just took the plunge myself and will report back. FYI, I have a VZW Moto X on 4.4.2
[Moto X General] tu3218:
That's what I'm wondering. Verizon, locked, and not rooted here. I've been reading the success stories but don't know about verizon wireless moto Xs'.
[Moto X General] Chris Welch:
This has to be one of the craziest/weirdest things I've ever been part of on the internet.

But it works.

I sent the $40 to the guy's PayPal. 24 hours later, he sent back an email with my code. It worked. Flawlessly. I'm using a Verizon Wireless Moto X (purchased via Moto Maker during the Black Friday/holiday sales)

I don't understand how. I'm sure he's got access to some highly secret Motorola tool. Hopefully his operation doesn't attract TOO much attention so you guys can keep using it. But be confident that it works.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
take a few minutes to read the thread... Yes. There are MANY Verizon X owners having success.
[Moto X General] southern87:
My code worked btw.
[Moto X General] Playb3yond:
I can't seem to find the add to cart button, could someone screen shot it for me?
[Moto X General] kicker22004:
Republic Wireless WORKS!!

I'm just posting back that this did work with Republic wireless!! now to pull this rom and see what i can do to make CM work with RW mods!!
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
Another success story here..... :D
[Moto X General] wctaylor79:
Search the thread. You can just send directly through paypal with imei and your email address. I say search cause i know the email is throughout for the guy ans i don't remember on the top of my head . Also on the Chinese listing. That's what i and many others did. :)
[Moto X General] thisiswar:
Been a lurker of the forums and signed up just to post that this definitely works. I sent payment on 03/24 around 1 PM EST. Didn't hear anything back so I sent him an email confirming on 03/25 around 10, he replied that he didn't get the IMEI from the payment through paypal so I sent it to him through email. An hour later, the code shows up in my mailbox. Tried it that night, worked flawlessly and now I'm running Eclipse. Good stuff

(VZW Moto X 4.4.2)
[Moto X General] buschris:
Aggravating guy... I had so much trouble getting unlocked, apparently he put my imei # and code together in his email, I finally figured it out.... 20 numbers. haha
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
See Item #3 at -> Post 394. others have mentioned it a few days ago too

This 3rd party seller sometimes sends you an email with a single line that is XXXXXXX YYYYYYYYY where XXX is your IMEI and YYYY is your 20 digit unlock code.
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
So I sent my PayPal payment with imei then sent an email confirming my payment was sent. He asked for my imei and email address. I responded within ten minutes. That was Wednesday at 5pm. Haven't heard a single thing back from him and it's been over 36 hours now...

sent from my thumbs...
[Moto X General] largeselection:
So...do I have to contact the seller via the email address on page 10? Or do I just randomly send a paypal payment to that paypal address with my IMEI?

For those of you who did that route rather than the chinese website did you just send $40 with Carrier version, moto x, and IMEI?
[Moto X General] dacek:
I'm on Verizon and I sent the guy my money on Wednesday and got my code Thursday and unlocked it this morning. So yea he still has the VZW codes and they are working.
[Moto X General] nucher:
Should I be concerened about giving them the IMEI? Can the phone be cloned with them knowing the IMEI?

Just got my X last night and ready to Unlock......
[Moto X General] lcallahan7:
You should be safe
[Moto X General] greenjeans:
I think you can just randomly send a paypal payment with your your IMEI. I did also email him, but I'm not sure that was necessary. He replied to the email within a couple hours saying 'yeah, you can paypal me directly.' I mentioned I already had, and he said 'oh, you'll have your code in 15 hours then'. 15hrs later, bam! Verizon bootloader unlocked.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Unfortunately that part I can't answer. I have a developer edition, so my code was direct from Moto. I can only answer AFTER you got your code questions.

Hopefully someone who has been through the process can comment
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
Emailed him from my phone, nothing. Emailed from my computer and reply with code in less than 5 minutes. Backing up and unlocking now :)

sent from my thumbs...
[Moto X General] JoeDroid:
Well fellas I'm sick of not having full control of my phone so I broke down and sent payment via PayPal. Followed up with an email and got a reply immediately stating "ok in 24/48h done". Pretty stoked. I'll update with the results.
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
well sh!t... the guy sent me an unlock code for an IMEI that I didnt send him so of course, my unlock code doesnt work because its not for my IMEI... :(
[Moto X General] jimmiet:
Just got an email from him saying (in broken English) the "database is abnormal, he will reply in 24-48 hrs. Please be patient."
[Moto X General] WhosToBlame:
Same here. Hope everything still goes well.

:eek:
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
Welp he just replied with a corrected code for my correct imei so giving it a go again.

****edit: worked :D

sent from my thumbs...
[Moto X General] largeselection:
I submitted as well so we will see how it goes! Fingers Crossed
[Moto X General] drilus:
Has there been much luck with AT&T?
[Moto X General] :
This kinda confirms he has a list....that the unlock codes aren't generated.

Just for those thinking this can be figured out with some sort of code generator and done for free by someone else. ;)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
This just got me thinking. I wonder if around a 100 unapproved boot loaders got unlocked in this big batch it raised a flag with Moto?
[Moto X General] jsho31:
Yeah, got mine unlocked. Running Beanstalk on it now.
[Moto X General] Chris Welch:
Even if Moto somehow found out, I have to imagine these unlock codes are so deep in phone that it would be almost impossible to change them. Once you've got the right code for your device, that's it.
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
Oh that's not what I'm worried about. I still have another one to unlock lol
[Moto X General] whatnow275:
Sent payment over 40 hours ago and two emails since. I have heard nothing back on any of them...
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Hmm. I guess I did know what I'm talking about... ;)

I'm sure Moto is aware of this. The real question is, do they care and can they do anything?

They might be able to block the hole allowing access at some point, but once you have your code and are unlocked, I don't think there is anything they can do to re-lock you.

Wouldn't it be funny if its a Moto China employee doing this on authority of Moto to bypass Verizon and ATT's wishes to keep their phones locked? (I don't think it is, just saying it would be kind of funny if it was)
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
Isn't Lenovo a Chinese company? Hmm
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
You're right. Did the fully sale complete yet?
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
Idk just a goofy conspiracy theory lol

[emoji1]
[Moto X General] fury683:
Verizon could ask for a list of IMEIs that have been unlocked and blacklist them. But, since this isn't going through the site from Moto (we aren't entering our long code that you need to GET the unlock code like a Dev Edition does), do they even know? If he is just skimming these from the database without a proper user interface, they might not even have a way to know?

Would Verizon/Moto have any way of knowing based on software on the phone? Like apps can detect if a phone is rooted and disallow access or whatever.. can they tell the same for bootloader? Or is that only present when you boot into bootloader, or see the warning on the phone at boot?

Furthermore, Verizon doesn't DISALLOW unlocked devices on their network (they sell Dev Edition phones), they do however prevent Moto Maker/retail editions from being unlocked, because they assume the people using the non-Dev Edition phones are average users who would have no idea how to change the OS or root, etc. They don't want these people unlocked because they get a friend or their kid or whoever, then something stops working and they call Verizon to fix it, which they won't because it's unlocked and all warranties are void. People that buy the Dev Edition are implying that they know what they're doing and won't cry for help from Moto or VZW when they mess something up.

Just my thoughts...
[Moto X General] zerogun:
You are proabably right, Moto doesn't give a damn if we are unlocking our phones. It's just AT&T and Verizon who cares so much about it. Same thing with Samsung and HTC. Samsung doesn't have any lock on it with non-AT&T and non-Verizon phones and HTC will let ANYONE phone unlock on HTC Dev by doing "all other supported devices".
[Moto X General] :
I never thought the unlock codes were generated upon request. LOL

I'm positive they were predetermined when the phone was "born". ;)

Hence the database of codes. The seller just "aquired" it somehow. Lol

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] zLoveXDA:
Does this work Verizon CDMA moto g XT1028
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
also am trying this. sent money to paypal with imei. will report back.
[Moto X General] digital_cha0s:
You won't know till you ask "the man from China"
[Moto X General] Playb3yond:
Stupid question but how much money did you guys send via paypal?
[Moto X General] southern87:
Stupid answer. Enough to get my unlock code.

Seriously though

Read through the last few pages. It's pretty obvious reasons.
[Moto X General] EcHoFiiVe:
oh you and [MENTION=1165307]KidJoe[/MENTION] are hilarious, really. Now you tell me, why on earth would there be a database with this kind of stuff? How could he acquire such a database, if one did exist? Read up on bootloaders, especially Motorola's, and learn how they work. Because I'm more than positive there isn't just a database lying around somewhere with all these codes pregenerated. Why do you think he's asking for your IMEI? Is he gonna look it up, on a database that, according to you guys has all the codes already generated? No, because A. That database, if it did exist, would be growing nonstop and B. I'm pretty sure that the amount of Moto Xs already sold would make finding your unique code in that database a big PITA to whatever computer he's using because I can imagine such a database to be at least a couple terabytes. The IMEIs literally directly tied to the unlock code, and they're being generated on a per IMEI basis. But whatever lol you wanna think you're right, no ones stopping you big guy ;)
[Moto X General] bigv5150:
The unlock code is created at the birth of the phone it is the only possible way this can work. It is installed in the phone before it is shipped. So yeah there is a giant data base containing imei and unlock codes. How else would they get the unique key on your phone. Oh yeah magic.

Sent from my Chinese connection unlocked and can't be stopped Droid Maxx

---------- Post added at 01:33 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:28 PM ----------

I do agree with you the imei is tied to the unlock code. Again I ask how would they get that unlock code on your phone. You seem to think you have it all figured out so explain how it works in your world.

Sent from my Chinese connection unlocked and can't be stopped Droid Maxx
[Moto X General] :
You figure it out then. You'll be a beloved hero. Seriously. ;)

And please....I never said anything disrespectful towards you....how about you return the favor. :)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....

---------- Post added at 09:05 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:01 AM ----------

I was just pointing out that the seller mentioned a database. Database basically means list.

Really tho.....I'm not concerned how it's done, I'd never buy a phone I can't unlock. :)

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
[MENTION=4466849]EcHoFiiVe[/MENTION],

Its pretty easy to surmise its a database or a dump of the database. There were comments early on (which have since been deleted by some posters who later thought that it shouldn't be discussed for fear Moto would see this and take actions to stop it) by someone trying to get a code and being told "new codes would be arriving in a few days" and now this latest.

Yes, the DB would continue growing as new phones are create. Hence those two comments do make sense, as well as the longer delays for some people (if the seller is getting an updated copy of the database). It they were being generated, there would be no delays, other than "sleep"

As for asking for your IMEI to get the unlock code. How else would they search a DB or table? They need something unique to the phone, and that is something which is easy for users to get. They sure couldn't look it up via your phone number, because while its unique, Moto doesn't always have record of this.

It may not be the DB itself, but rather a dump of the DB to an excel sheet or something. And it may only be a dump for Verizon and ATT to make it smaller. Yeah, its going to be slow searching on an older computer, but a current gen i7 with SSD, and enough memory could search a db of tens of thousands of records quickly. Some requests are taking hours, some days. So its not like its instant.

How does he have access? Could be any number of ways, from an insider dumping or copying the db and supplying, or this person works for Moto/Lenovo, or has a way past Moto's firewalls, or ??...

You can go on thinking you're 100% right, you know exactly how its done, and refuse to think that the rest of us couldn't possibly know anything. Me, I'll say there is a much better chance that someone gained access to the list of unlock codes, than it is a single hacker somewhere cracked the method to generate the unlock codes with a 100% success rate, using only the phone's IMEI, which no one else has been able to do for the X or other Moto phones.

Besides, this thread is more about using this 3rd party unlock process, than trying to figure out how they get the codes.