yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
not sure the affect of the new ifwi on 4.3 but if he flashed them all manually then copied the update to an external sdcard then booted in to recovery and applied the v1.25 update it should replace the ifwi with the one from 4.3. obviously if your on the v7 you should flash the v7 if your on the v8 you should flash the v8 the toolkit will automate the process when it comes out. might also have to fastboot erase factory and fastboot erase config boot populates thees with wifi and bluetooth stuff, this is why i suggested users wait for the toolKIT i really didn't wanna use up a whole bunch of time walking through things...
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
So the safest for him is to wait for toolKit ;)

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
easiest signing off till completed.....
[Dell Venue] :
Or flash again kitkat , i think i had it somewhere

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[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
I'm curious from where? :)

[MENTION=4821597]social-design-concepts[/MENTION] - master of retort xD

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] :
On desktop of my pc lol

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[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Wow, so you're better than SDC!

Not only you softbricked Venue, but also have KitKat image on your hard drive!

Be my master

ROTFL, I couldn't help myself, sorry man.
[Dell Venue] LordKillZone:
System image

How i can make a system image?? Becouse i want do a backup
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
System Image

Hello, I need the original system image for my Dell Venue 7.

Specs in attachment.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52590909

Of course download V7 package ;)
[Dell Venue] joanthanmajh:
Xposed

The new xposed framework (2.6) will cause a bootloop on android 4.3
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
My dear...

It was told before not to use the newest version of Xposed. Only modified version for asus "2.5 beta2+ASUS" works fine.

To run Venue with xposed off, force shut down first - hold Power for few seconds, then boot it up as always, but when the Dell logo appear keep pressing power button rapidly until homescreen appear.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
i haven't tested kk yet toolKIT working on toolKIT the 2.5.1 update works on kk i suppect that only the version that's included in the toolKIT will work on jb4.3. im only including that one and if users like the can always try the updates but thax for letting everyone know im eager to use it i haven't had a chance to read the thread yet.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
if you two are going to bicker please use the old root thread so everyone please be a little nicer and please not bring my name in to anything.

especially if your going to use the word better in any way i'm a simple hobbyist from Ohio i'm sure there are way smarter and more dev experienced user on this forum than me.

[MENTION=476260]karnage[/MENTION] captured the ota for the venue 8 so it could be out the only reason i've noted uploaded them yet is they're not packaged for the toolKIT yet after i do some more updating they'll be linked.

and as i said the original toolKIT got leaked so he could of very well updated to 4.3v1.25 and captured the update him self
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
My apologies.

It's just this kid. He just think that he's someone very important and have all the answers...

[OT OFF]
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
wow i only logged in here to post a picture update:

people please please please if you have nothing constructive to say please don't post i started this thread to get away from that toxic environment of the old thread the original thread is still active and a general discussion thread also exist point being there are other place to do that it and isn't here.

there will be two additional downloads the kk ota if you want to apply it through the toolKIT my recommendations and the kk root kit the jb root kit is built into the myKIT_BATCH.

advanced menu option A5 OTHER KIT is leveraged to apply the update from jb4.3v1.25 to kk4.4.2v1.26

since going forward it looks as if the kk root method is going to be device and sw version specific the rootKIT for kitkit is going to be tied to the update so in order to root you will have to download both an update package and a rootKIT this is the simplest way i can keep from breaking the ability to apply ota update though remember if you install ota before they have been check you could lose ability to root.
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
Venue

I used the link he gave me with success. No boot loop.
[Dell Venue] neurod:
Will the toolkit work on Linux? I was holding off rooting till the toolkit came out, but the pic above made me realize I may be out of luck.

Sent from my Dell Venue 8
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
So... if someone updated his Venue 7/8 to 4.4.2 with OTA, he wouldn't be able to root it? Am I thinking correctly?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
fastboot doesn't work under linux well it didn't after i updated to jb4.3 adb works fine unless you found a work around for this? if so i have an experimental myKIT2 that .sh based its still in the early works it runs under windows using mSYS well one pieced together form gits version its intention is to run under windows or linux but its far from ready since i cant get fastboot to work on linux ...
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
no i'm saying i cant control what any future ota from dell will do so unless you want to lose root i suggest not updating to after checking the forum.

but i should of kept my mouth shut because i've changed my mind on a couple of things when i started thinking long term:

the rootKIT will be always be version specific not device.

it will contain the root method for v7&v8 and detect the attached device and apply.

so it will be 1 additional download so if your already on kitkat and just want to root you only need to download the rootKIT for the kitkat version rootKIT works through myKIT_BATCH not stand alone. but no more question about it.

the hardest part about making this tool kit has been thinking future if i would of thought about it longer i would had the ota always apply through otherKIT and not as part of the pkg that was originally largely do to the v8 sw1.16 boot fastboot and recovery images never being captured so the v8 could never be at a factory state with out updating to 1.25 at the time to many people have already downloaded the pkg and it would be to much of a hassle to rework every thing. im trying to think long term so people dont have to downoad an updated toolKIT each time.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Understood. Sorry for asking, but I'll have to translate all the instructions and write some user-friendly guide on our android forum (after your permission ofc) in the future. I just want to avoid any unnecessary questions and problems which could happen.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
HMM kind of like self appointed forum police. If people have a problem with a post, they should send it to a moderator. There are no stupid questions just stupid answers like "RTFM" or "It's already been answered too many times."
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
its ok i just don't have time for questions at the moment, [MENTION=476260]karnage[/MENTION] has provided me with some instruction i havent had a chance to look them over i know he added some trouble shooting tips and i think factory restore method.

i'm off for a walk to clear my head deciding if i should add a check to make sure the sw version is correct or not at some point it will be needed so do it now or add it to a future ota update pgk... answers are not required to that question.

and sorry nothings out yet my family randomly stopped by and then my wifes family randomly stopped by and that took up about 5 hours away from working on it but i really have to clear my head for a bit. its getting closer.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Do you guys realize that by asking SDC all these questions, you're only slowing him down. I' m pretty sure when he's done, all questions will be answered. Right now, being the novice I am, I'm totally confused. I figure when he's done, he'll put up a nice post explaining everything. If I don't understand something, I know he's a nice enough guy to help. Let's save all the questions till after he's done.

On another note, I agree with SDC, please stop the bickering. If you wanna bicker with each other, pm each other. Ever since SDC split the forum, it's been very peaceful in here.

Both my comments are jmho.
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
Because there are a few options I just did simple instructions for the factory restore through the myKIT. I figure that's going to be the first thing people will be doing so they can get the 4.4 update. I think the changes SDC has made will make things very smooth.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
i think the only thing left is to finish the part that keeps from braking compatibility with ota updates and finishing instructions i'll get it out to a few of you to test before i start on finishing the instructions so close i can almost taste it gotta unwind a second i opted out of checking if the version was correct for the update as it doesn't matter since recovery already does this and errors out if not correct. users will have to be sure that if new updates come out the check the forum to see if an updated rootKIT is out cause not using the correct rootKIT on kitkat will break ota updates and could depending on what dell changes in the future ota brick your device.
[Dell Venue] cline2:
Hope the walk you had to help to clear your head after people are asking or bothering you too much. Thank you for not giving up.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
the update to IFWI: F9.70 does not break jb4.3v1.16 and applying jb4.3v1.25 completely restores the device jb4.3v1.25 w/ IFWI: F9.6C

[MENTION=4119702]cline2[/MENTION] yeah it did it made me realize i was thinking about things to much. taking a short break before testing the final part of the toolKIT then ill just have to package it all and upload then link testers.
[Dell Venue] :
Stop blaming me ...

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[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
So in the end we will be able to choose what Android we want on Venues. Simply perfect solution. Those who doesn't like KitKat can go back to Jelly Bean and vice versa.

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
well to jb4.3 v1.25 for both devices. and just finished the toolkit and the v7 package now have to build the v8 package and upload.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
packages uploading now

packages uploading now..........
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
That's what I meant but not posted. 4.2.2 it's not even worth of attention when update to 4.3/4.4.2 it's available.

Good to hear ;)

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
except my internet at the house is sucking im not going to be able to stay awake long enough to link to testers :( sorry guys

but xposed 2.6 does work on kitKAT
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Man, I'm going sleep either. I'm after 24h so comfortable bed is the most reasonable thing at this moment.

Swyped on Venue 7
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
phone company never made it to install my fiber to home my internet has been ****ty for about two weeks

when i get up ill link to testers then work on instructions, i should only need one of the v8 testers to verify that it is working correctly i'll be updating the instructions while i wait for that after conformation and instructions are finished ill update the original post sorry guys i tried... but im beat beat beat. till tmrw. closer
[Dell Venue] death-people:
about ota update

i flash rom from your 4.3per_root,4.2 to 4.3,and then,i find i update system from ota ,its error in setup the update.can you help me to resolve it?:confused:
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Trying to sleep you'll have to wait for toolkit it should fix you.
[Dell Venue] phlyphish:
No, death-people, he can't, #@%&*. Read the thread and wait, like the rest of us, until he's finished. .
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Just woke up all uploads have finished I have my morning coffee in hand working on some basic instructions before linking to tester after that once its been confirmed by a v8 user it will be linked for all.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
One small question. Will this method of going back to stock and then upgrading to kk work on the dev edition of v8?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Your warranty is still voided you will still have the initial Intel inside logo before the boot animation. But yes [MENTION=476260]karnage[/MENTION] confirmed this.
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
That's cool. Thanks. And thank you for all your work. You're going at this whole project like it's personal. Like it wronged you some how.
[Dell Venue] Sportfreunde:
I've gone ahead and updated to 4.4 for the V7 since there does seem to be a decent difference between 4.3 and 4.4 compared to 4.2 and I couldn't figure out the instructions here for rooting the 4.3 V7 but in the future (not not of course), is there a chance of rooting the 4.4 or is that one just difficult to root in the first place?

I don't plan to install roms on this, I just need a few apps like CPU frequency controller, adaway, and some battery saving apps similar to greenify or automemory killer....do any of these kind of apps exist for non-rooted devices?
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Read the thread a few posts back. It's in the works right now.
[Dell Venue] :
Anybody here can upload kitkat package for V7 ? I must fix my tab and i know how to do it ...
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
Dude, just be patient. They're almost done testing. Should be out today.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
i dont think you do.

because if you knew how to do it then you would know you don't need anyone to post it because you once you restore to v1.16 all you do is follow the upgrade path v1.25 ota included with the v1.16 package that's been up for a couple of weeks and the download the v1.25 ota from the device. that would get you non rooted 4.4.2

or you could be patient wait for the kit to be release to today some time EST USA at some point and it will be easy i've done a lot of work to make this as easy as possible for all users you just have to be patient everything's uploaded but the instructions once the basic pictorial is complete i will link to testers while i finish adding the text to the instructions then once a v8 user confirms to me that it is working for the v8 and i've finished adding text to the instructions the OP will be updated all all can download but just be patient i just finished the pictorial driver install, Quick Backup, Quick Restore and restoring to v1.16 had to stop to cut my elderly neighbors grass now working on the update to 1.25 pics then the 1.26 update then rooting its quite easy doing everything through the tool kit.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
well its out to testers if you didnt get it and i told you i would pm me and ill try to get it to u but know promises on that, if you helped me early on pm me to and if you ring a bell ill send too but again no promises on that any one else but the 5 that got it will have it before it is public gotta cut the grass.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
the superSU installation is missing a file i'll correct and looks as if there is a issue with the 64bit driver installation both should be easy fix. but just picked up my daughter from her weekend vistitation so i wont be working on it till after 930pm est usa. tester i know you have users of other fourms your part of wanting to get it but please don't give it out ill correct and should have everything linked by 11pm eastern time.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
KitKat is good, smooth and up to date... but... I couldn't get Foldermount to work. I tried different source/destination locations but without success. I have few games that I like and I still want them and KitKat prevents me from that. But root and other apps works fine.

For now, and I'm afraid forever, I'm returning to JB4.3.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Have you tried any of the xposed modules for fixing SD card issues?
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
I didn't even know about their existence xD Could give any example?

And maybe I'll try them tommorow. I'm sleepy and have returned to 4.3 now.

edit:

Nah... Now when you told me about that... crap... I have to charge battery, I'm sleepy, but I want to try this module too...

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/fix-external-storage-handling-with-xposed-module/
[Dell Venue] Sheffield Steve:
There is also app in the Google store at:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nextapp.sdfix&hl=en
[Dell Venue] saintii2:
I couldn't get framework to work either. Correction, it does work i think, it seems that it won't let you change the battery icon in any way. Also, it looks like dell took out app ops from the ROM.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I think it was Google that took appOPS in 4.4,

personal opinion I think dell rushed kk out in order to beat another Intel vendor to market.
[Dell Venue] :
Is KITpack here already ? If will be , just send me private launcher .

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[Dell Venue] saintii2:
That sucks. I like appOPS.

Framework has a module for it. They took out the boot up section though.
[Dell Venue] :
And if i can say , Dell removed modem support , i cant use USB Modem with V7

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
My daughter woke up I haven't had a chance to link instructions arnt finished and I have to work out some issues with 64bit driver installer and cleaning up after rooting. That's why small handfuls get test first but soon once I work out the driver issue I'll link instruction can be completed after I post the kit they're full of pictures so even without complete text people should be able to follow

sorry family comes first in my world
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
fixed the issues with the clean-up after root - gotta test the 64bit driver installation and it should be good to upload the instructions that will be included when i link tonight are missing all the written text out side of setting up the toolKIT but are full of pictures so users should be able to follow i hope to have the written instructions and OP updated tmrw but that depends on how busy work is, making every attempt i can on getting this up with in the hour. tester the links are down until the finished kit is up thanks you all for your assistance.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
This should work for App Ops http://www.xda-developers.com/android/yet-another-way-to-restore-app-ops/

BTW.

I'm coming back to 4.4.2... Will try the xposed module for media_rw and App Ops.

Yes, you can use external modem... with PPP Widget...

Edit:

SUCCESS.

Xposed module HandleExternalStorage works as a charm :)

Xposed AppOps works fine too ;)
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
update fail

is anyone else having issues getting the kitkat update to work? download and verify go fine but it fails during the install. I have factory reset the tablet and run the update with the same result.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Do you have rooted system?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
ToolKIT coming today it would of been out last night but I have to remove my device serial number from all the pictures in the instructions, as long as you follow the recommendations on setting the toolKIT up everything should work fine. Fixed the issues with 64bit driver installation and the clean up after rooting have have been fixed. Those were the only two issues testers reported.
[Dell Venue] LordKillZone:
Great news
[Dell Venue] NotQuiteANoob:
Is your root method reversible to 100% stock & can I preserve data/settings?

@sdc, Thank you so much for all you've done. I think we showed up here in the venue forum about the same time and I should say that this has been fun watching you climb the mountain so to speak. Actually, let me rephrase that. I think what you've done here is more like you pounded the mountain flat. Any body can climb a mountain with a little training, but it takes a special kind of perseverance to pound it flat especially in light of your initial experiences here in this forum and your troubles lately with untrustworthy testers.

Anyway, after you're done posting the root img and procedures, and have gotten some time to sleep and time with the family, would you please explain these topics a little more? Or maybe incorporate them into the faqs?

1. is there a path back to completely 100% stock if we use your root method?

I can't tell from these posts if just going to dev edition first causes the intel logo linger (or any other signs the unit has been messed with) or if using your root method will also leave clues that the unit has been rooted no matter what you do including flashing back to one of the older images you provided.

2. is there a way to preserve my data/settings while rooting with your kit? - is your root method non-destructive to data/settings?

I'm assuming that all of the data/settings are wiped but I thought I would ask if you've discovered a reliable way to save the data/settings while you've been testing and flashing back and forth. Normally I use Titanium Backup Pro to back up my data but that requires root in the first place. The google account backup rarely works well for me. And I know there are other programs that backup up apps but saving the data and sys settings seem to be elusive without root. Any ideas on having my cake (keeping all of my data,sys settings, etc.) and eating it too (using your root method).

-->still on previously rooted 4.3.

Thanks in advance for answering.
[Dell Venue] mutation101:
update fail

No just stock stock stock
[Dell Venue] :
Anybody help me to unlock bootloader in V7 . I dont have PowerShell in Windows Vista !

---------- Post added at 04:02 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:57 PM ----------

I bringed my Venue 7 back to live by erasing all partitions and flashing system boot and recovery !
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Get a VM and load a Win7 Iso
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
unlocked bootloader doesn't exist on either devices this has been covered

(if you found out how to on another forum please let me know, same thing with the fastboot linux driver, i have adb working just fine on my mint machine but fastboot doesn't seem to work)

the dev-edition v8 doesn't even unlock the bootloader....

it uses a test key can't remember the passphrase i think it's' 0123456789,

if the efi doesn't have the correct pk (platform key) loaded into it for the passphrase its signed with it won't boot the image even though you can use the dev-edition-tools to correctly stitch the boot image in a proper osip format. i plan on looking into this to try to find a work around.

the kk images are different than the jb so i can't even unpack them at this point but i hope to figure it out.
[Dell Venue] :
Why ? ... Wait . I have Windows 8.1 on my new laptop sorry ...

Nevermind , i just bringed my V7 back to work by erasing all and flashing boot recovery and rooted system package
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
uploading the fixed toolKIT myKIT_BATCH and rootKIT-kkv1.26 now should have the instructions finished after lunch i'll link everything in the OP at the top when ready and just hide the original while i work on updating the OP throughout the day thanks everyone for being so patient with me.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
my guess is this is what the update did
[Dell Venue] chunkybudz:
I'd doubt it. They wouldn't ota a warranty killer.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
read the instructions yes it will void your warranty but i believe looking at the instructions looks as if this turns your device into dev edition and voids your warranty

hope the V7 isnt far behind...
[Dell Venue] kairnage:
I am setting this up now. I am going to mount the system image first and see what's in it.
[Dell Venue] sic-ever:
Look what I've found inside this zip for Venue 7:

Possibility to build your own Android for Venue 7/8? Seems pretty tasty.

Swyped on Venue 7