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[Dell Venue] aarongillion63:
Are there any benefits to this update, other than the pretty "4.4.2" flag deep in the settings menus? Not like little security patches, but like real updates, like upgraded UI? Honestly I don't understand why people are so eager to update to KK when there isn't much anything different, except for new bugs and harder to root. Am I just missing something, or does anyone else agree?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
wait for me to check rooting tonight before updating it should still be possible im hoping i wont even have to update the toolKIT i've been working on.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
its kitkat dont flash yet i've already rooted v7 working out all the details and correcting the toolkit for rooting kitkat but yes we have kitkat and root.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
it was cake to root took me less than an hour... gotta fix the toolkit do not update at this time... http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52687072&postcount=662
[Dell Venue] Saki3d:
Back Up Stock rom.

Hi i am sory if i am posting my question in wrong place,

Today or tomorrow i am gonna buy, Dell Venue 7

i just want to know, how can i back up my stock rom

i have S3 i9300 and with custom cwm i can make an back up, is something similar for this tablet

thanks.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
No CWM no TWRP yet but the Venue 7 has been rooted with kitkat.
[Dell Venue] Saki3d:
Oh ok thanks,

Do u have flashable 4.2 image file of this Tablet?

Will your toolKIT allow us to select which rom who want to flash tablet Ex: 4.2 , 4.3 , 4.4

or is it only for rooting?

if i update to KK and if i want to return 4.3 can i downgrade?

sory asking too much questions, i wanna be sure before buy this tablet :D

thanks
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
There are no 4.2.2 image if some one still has a venue 7 and venue 8 my new root method will root those and i would love to walk a couple of users through dumping the 4.2.2 images.

Details on toolkit will be out soon.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Annoyed @ the moment one of my testers started leaking the pre kitkat ota release of myKIT_BATCH with out consent.

It's one think to ask me and do it anyways if I said no it's just plain disrespectful to share the link with out asking me or telling me first.

If I had wanted more than the three of you to have it I would of posted the link publicly not in a PM. WTF. Almost feel like scrapping the whole thread and letting one of the leakers figure it out.

I'm not just annoyed by it.
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
ART

Hello, I have a Venue 7 running 4.2.2 and wanted to switch to ART Runtime but every time I try it gets stuck at boot screen and I have to force shut down.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
you mean 4.4.2 and i dont think anyone has figured it out yet once the toolKIT and OP is up i intend to dig into a few of the issues that exist with the current kk v1.26 update. if any one does find a fix for this please post for all.
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
Venue 7

Hello, I wanted to know if it would to possible to duel boot Windows on the Venue 7 if we were able to unlock to boot loader.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
did you find away to unlock the bootloader as of now the only thing i know to boot is android i'm trying to figure away around this personally i'd like to boot a chromiumOS build.
[Dell Venue] aarongillion63:
I use bochs emulator for that. I think this is the only option as you would have to develop custom drivers for display, sound, wifi, multi-touch, etc. I am a Windows techy as far as app development and registry tweaks and stuff and even I don't know how to build drivers, so...good luck to anybody on that.

If you still want to multi-boot, there is a stretched solution I have in mind, which I plan on trying/using. The main reason/advantage of this approach is that you can use *ALL* the ram on your device for windows. You'll still be using bochs, which takes care of the driver issues for you, but you're loading it right on top of the android kernel. Basically you'll be disabling ALL apks including SystemUI by renaming them to .baks via Tasker with some profile "Boot to Windows". In the same profile you can change boot animation to a Windows one (just to look cool) and fire a restart. Then, add an on-boot profile to fire up bochs. To switch back to android you'll have to think of some creative tasker profile that will fire with bochs running and no status bar that will rename all the apks back.

Summary: Using that approach you will basically be starting up android down at <50mb ram. Turning off SystemUI will disable lockscreen, status bar, nav bar, all not needed for windows. Now this is theoretical, I haven't tested it. It might just lead to infinite app-quit errors. It's also possible that android will never fire boot_completed without SystemUI. I plan on obtaining a test device to figure it out Optimally this method should work, maybe after a few build.prop tweaks. I will post back in the next month on this. I will also post a guide on XDA if it works.
[Dell Venue] 177aj:
BOOT

I did not but am trying to myself to and will let you know if I find anything.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Anyone else having a problem with the tablet always saying plugged in? Cause it is keeping mine from properly sleeping.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] Fiqii:
Good
[Dell Venue] saturnzeus:
Native Linux on Dell Venue 7

Hi,

Help needed, I am newbie to linux and android.

i worked with chrooted arch linux and debian both are working fine.

i was unable to run virtualbox. DKMS source problem, I googled it but unable to find proper way and android is using around 500mb plus ram, so I started researching on native linux.

I am able to create signed boot.img with custom initramfs using V8 source which i was able to flash to recovery. when i select recover only usb symbol comming, i think the main problem is with initramfs. I followed these two posts

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1138661

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2587228

i was unable to install kernel directly so i copied the kernel and modules and ran mkinitramfs. which i used to stitch to kernel and flash I gave command line argument while stiching root=/dev/block/mmcblk1p2 which is second partition of sdcard with ext4

i think the main problem lies with inintramfs and cmd line arguments.

Anyone know about how to create proper initramfs and load modules while starting kernel for V7 and boot into native linux through recovery.
[Dell Venue] thefoss:
Got my V8 yesterday, shipped with JB4.3v1.23 , Software Update says I'm up to date, but I know KitKat is floating around out there. My goal is to be running rooted 4.4.2. I've looked at the rooting post, but frankly, it's a mess. Suggestions?
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
Keep away from KitKat. At best, upgrade to 1.25 firmware 4.3 (jellybean). KitKat has more issues with OS, stability, ext SD card read/write privilege to apps and other selinux issues with root-required apps. Maybe that's why Dell pulled out the ota updates for 1.26 firmware....

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Dell pulled all ota's all the way back to 4.2.2 this is either because the kitkat ota they release was soft bricking devices the same way their initial 4.2.2 to 4.3 did to some v8s back in December or because the root method affects all devices back to 4.2.2 and now they have to released an ota that fixes the exploit because heaven forbid that the device owner be able to use a device they own they way they want to.

What's really disturbing is how dell pulled the ota's , not just off there server but physically off of users devices I talked to users that had root and had already downloaded the ota for what ever version there device was on and I'm talking about people that downloaded ota way back in December they verified download and left in /cache and the Tuesday after myKIT_BATCH came out the day it appears dell pulled otas they're downloaded otas where also gone off the device shortly after connecting to WiFi. That's scary to me to think dell could remove downloaded content off your device.

I'm working on starting a group in the USA

hoping to get device / bootloader unlocking a protect right to consumers under fair use laws.

The goal is either for manufactures to have to unlock devices / bootloaders for users that request it or require manufactures to provide long term support for the device software / os for a period of no less than 5 years. Its annoying to have device laying around my house that I can't upgrade or use any more that I paid good money for and the Manufacture or Google not have provide os or security updates for the device.
[Dell Venue] thefoss:
Yeah spoke to Dell support and all I got was "keep checking your device". Really? Thought this tablet was a good deal ($129 over memorial day weekend sale), but now I'm thinking I should just send it back for a refund and spend a little more on a device that has more active support.

[MENTION=4821597]social-design-concepts[/MENTION], whatever I van do to help your cause, please PM me. I'm no developer, but I've been around XDA long enough to know that I don't know a lot, and to support those that do.
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
I'm one of them. Checked OTA downloaded and safe in /data, was in Malaysia without a PC. Came home to upgrade and root, Hey Presto! No OTA saved file! Very scary, if you ask me. Want to shift to some open-source CM ROM, if anyone can build one for the venue 7.

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[Dell Venue] Sportfreunde:
What are the best ways to conserve battery on a rooted 4.4.2 for the venue 7?

I'm using Autokiller Memory Optimizer (free version so far), Greenify which has hibernated all apps minus the launcher (solo), News & Weather, XPrivacy, GravityBox, Adaway, Autokiller, and CPU Control, and I also have CPU control itself installed though I'm not sure which governor to pick from out of performance, userspace, ondemand, or interactive (obviously not performance...the min clock frequency is 800 mhz which is not very low).

Anything else I can do for battery life?
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Well task killers such as it kills lots of tasks that just restart resulting in loops of drain. One big help is freezing the maps app as it is constantly polling location pulling the tablet out of deeps leap.

To get the best battery life I use Tasker to force hibernate all my apps that have wake locks when the screen turns off. (wake up the device while it sleeps to poll) note that most any app that has to refresh information, Facebook email messaging apps, wake locks. Force hibernating them makes it so they can't wake the device up at all while it is in deep sleep. Also Tasker pits my tablet in airplane mode when the screen goes off.

Note: a side effect of his setup is you must have the screen on to get messages from apps.

Also I have it set up so if my screen is off my processor won't do above 800mhz but this actually isn't a problem as these tablets don't use too much ever really.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] thefoss:
eh, I give up on this device. Put it up for sale on Swappa
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
What's the issue?
[Dell Venue] Sportfreunde:
Yeah but doesn't Greenify do the same thing as Tasker in terms of force hibernation? I might consider getting the other app for keeping apps off but I'm not sure if it would do much since the other app is already hibernating almost everything and the tablet has no cell signal/LTE so it shouldn't be using battery while it's off.

Interested in knowing which of the four governors on CPU control would be best though (obviously not performance). Also, is there no way to underclock it below 800ish mhz?
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
No Tasker does not hibernate, nor does greenify force hibernation. I use Tasker to make greenify hibernate the apps instead of waiting for greenify to do it itself. Tasker is an automation app, I use it to make other apps do things when I want them to. Eh hibernate and wake my apps when I want them to and put my device in airplane mode when I want it to. And no there is no way to underclock that I know of, though when the tablet deeps sleeps I believe the processor stops like a computer hibernating, hence why my method of preventing apps from waking the device works so darn well.

Please quote me in replies.

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Yes, what is the problem, as I said earlier this is Linux not a stupid proof product from the Apple overlords.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] Sportfreunde:
Ah I see. However I think that tasker is useful for the non-rooted version of Greenify. The rooted version which I assumed you were using should automatically hibernate the app once you set it unless you open the app.
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
It actually doesn't, it takes it a while, at least for me.

Please quote me in replies.

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[Dell Venue] Tornade69:
Battery life suck in kitkat

Anyone else notice that battery life is not good with kitkat comparing to 4.2.2. Standby is ok but in use is dropping fast... ???
[Dell Venue] zenihilist:
Kind of hard for me to compare. When you have to restart the thing several times a day, battery life is gonna take a hit. I feel like if that didn't happen that the battery life would be comparable if not better.
[Dell Venue] petewr:
KitKat is not noted for great battery life any way.

Are you just trying to make the device sleep, are you doing something else like reading?

Sleeping, my still stock 7 does not use any battery to speak of. That is because I shut off Wifi and BlueTooth and turn on Airplane Mode.

That goes a long way towards making the battery last. I can run Moon+ reader and read books for 3 or 4 hours and sometimes more. Don't sleep good and reading doesn't make any noise to bother the others in the house.

I get about 9% of battery used per hour. Which is about right there with advertised performance. It is supposed to do 10 hours the way I use it. And it does. A little common sense goes a long way here.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
you still having issues rooting?
[Dell Venue] petewr:
yes. nothing has changed since last night. Still working my way through 118 pages of entries in this thread: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2681783&page=114

cannot get either abd or fastboot to hook up to my 7. Am wondering if I need to use a different USB cable.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
cable has been a killer cause for quite a few users what OS? windows 8 and 8.1 remember you need to install the drivers in a special mode. . . but do you see it under device manager at all?
[Dell Venue] petewr:
Windows 8.1. What special mode, I missed that part.

Device Manager shows my Venue 7 3730 in Portable Devices and Android (with a yellow triangle) in Other Devices. ABD doesn't show up at all so maybe I don't have those drivers in right yet.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
see this link installing unsigned drivers in windows 8.1
[Dell Venue] petewr:
Nope. Think I will have start over and re-do everything from the beginning.

Device Manager still has Venue 7 3730 under Portable Devices, and Android under Other devices.

Now there is an entry under Other devices of ^" 7. Both say they don't have drivers installed. ADB still doesn't show up.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
yeah not sure what the driver installation issue iss you could try manually pointing to the driver folder located:

myKIT_BATCH/plugins/driverKIT/ADB/usb_driver that's the folder that contains the driver. .
[Dell Venue] petewr:
Finally!

Thanks for your time!
[Dell Venue] petewr:
Nope! May have bricked it.

Waiting to see if the backup I ran off three hours ago before attempting to root will go back on.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
What version were you coming from? You applied the patch and the package program add-on? Where did the error occur.
[Dell Venue] petewr:
4.2.2.

Applied the patch to batch. Didn't apply the add-on to the program. Probably explains why it ran so slow.

It was like waiting on dial up to load facebook.

Plus I still can not get root.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
You need to use the package program add-on option A3 when updating from 4.2.2
[Dell Venue] petewr:
That is the one I used. Option A3. With venue7_jb4.3_sw-ver.1.16pkg-pgrm.7z in the packages folder.

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What are these: Captured Original Dell OTA's note: not packaged for myKIT_BATCH just posting because i have them, and can they be used in any way?
[Dell Venue] petewr:
After slowing down and going back and re-reading pdf files, I need to start over and redo all the MyKit stuff. I missed some things.

Thanks.
[Dell Venue] petewr:
so:

Went back and started over.

Followed all the MyKit pdf directions and now have 4.4 rooted on my Venue 7.

Thanks social-design-concepts
[Dell Venue] Cody03:
I just bought a Venue 8 and I plan on installing it in my car. For ease of install/removal I'd love to be able use the micro usb port on the tablet for audio and charging. Is this possible on this tablet?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I assume through some sort of Head Unit with USB that use usb-audio? I'll check in my jeep in a little while and let you know.
[Dell Venue] Cody03:
My plan is to replace my current head unit with the tablet. Go Tablet -> DAC -> Equalizer -> Amps.

My hope is that I can use the USB port to run a Y Splitter, one to the DAC (for Audio) and the other to the charger. I've been reading the audio over usb, if available, produces better sound quality than running from the headphone jack. It would also allow for easier construction of a mount that would make removal and easier task.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Yell I'll let you know if the yep detects it as a USB audio device but you wouldn't need a y as long as the DAC USB port put out 5v 1amp I'd assume.
[Dell Venue] Cody03:
Awesome Thanks! The DAC I was looking at doesn't have its own power source. I was going to run a 12v -> 5v 2a converter for power to the tablet. Wire it up to a keyed source and then use Tasker to turn the screen on/off when the key is on or off.
[Dell Venue] zenihilist:
So has anyone who had problems with the original kitkat ota seen anything fixed in the most recent one? All problems remain for me.
[Dell Venue] vampirefo:
I bought a Dell Venue 8 16GB Wi-Fi 8in Black (Latest Model) 3830 * New In Box last night on ebay, Now trying to read up on rooting and CWM recovery, I haven't found anything on CWM recovery threads other than this thread, Found some rooting threads, but none so far just go straight into rooting, via Linux.

I guess first step would be to update the tablet via OTA to kitkat then find a way to root kitkat, then either find or build a kitkat recovery for Dell Venue 8.
[Dell Venue] Sportfreunde:
Would anyone be able to recommend a case from eBay for the Venue 7?
[Dell Venue] Cookie Ninja:
No cases, but I use a belkin & targus zippered carry pouches meant for the Nexus 2012. The Dell 7 is smaller than the nexus 7......

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[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Look on Amazon there is a company that makes a form fitted case
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
So I have fallen out of the following of these threads mainly because it was the same thing over and over but I was just checking in to see if any progress on the custom recovery front.
[Dell Venue] ChacaG:
Rom stock dell venue 3830 ?

hello friends I need Como saber revive my Dell Venue for 3830 This dysfunctional Someone KNOW HOW flashearla . Greetings and thanks in advance :(
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I don't quite understand what your asking?
[Dell Venue] hunterk11:
Looks like a screwed up Google translate, but he has a bricked device that needs unbricking just need more details.
[Dell Venue] hilariof:
venue 7

sir SDC

im a newbie...and pardon my english...can you please help me how to flash my v7 jb4.3 using your toolkit...bcoz its stuck in dell logo...

i tried the recovery mentioned in dell forum but to no avail...im still stuck in dell logo...i think 1 of my children delete a sys file...i downloaded your toolkit and the package but dont know what to do next...

thanks for the help...
[Dell Venue] hilariof:
update on my v7

i already flashed my v7 ...thanks to sir sdc toolkit...at first i was hang at A3...dont know what are the commands...

i scanned all the thread/pages looking for command...after hours of searching i piece together all the commands...

and lots of trial and error i manage to flashed my v7 3730 4.3 to 4.4...

thanks everyone...

itaas mo...
[Dell Venue] rener78:
Anything new for the v7? Recovery, custom rom?
[Dell Venue] surajdhanuki:
CM 11

Will we ever get cm11 or any custom rom developement ???

There is miui v4 for venue v7, but couldnt find miui v5.

I m new to this device and upgraded to kitkat.
[Dell Venue] joanthanmajh:
Where did you find miui v4 ?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I think they are mistaken it was available for the original Dell Venue Phone.

The DV7 3730 Series is plagued by its locked bootloader. Which is stupid being they unlocked the Venue 8 3830 WiFi, and the Venue 7 / 8 3740 / 3840 WiFi and HSPA+ models.
[Dell Venue] surajdhanuki:
Oh.. So the miui was not for the tab version. Srry.. Its been 1 year this device launched, so i thought there would have been anything to with this tab. So there is nothing we can do????
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
You can try to beg Dell and Intel to release an dev-edition for it , i've been begging since February the problem is Dell tells you its Intel who has to release it and Intel tells you it's Dell that has to. . .

I'm personally waiting to buy a new tab till the official Intel developer tab come out Intel's made the claim of OS updates with into weeks of source release from Google. . .
[Dell Venue] GeeKerGurL:
So what about the ones with the bootloader unlocked? Why no roms for those as of yet? Will there ever be? I would LOVE to have CM11 on my V8, mainly to get rid of the audio compression/limiter crap on the newer versions of droid. I love my music and it pumped SO much better on Android 4.0. Anyone here know how to modify that stuff in the current builds?
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
Well I don't have a v8 so it's why I'm not building but it seems Sammy is having surfaceflinger issues with there build
[Dell Venue] GeeKerGurL:
You mean as in Samsung? I was referring to stock Android, sorry if I used "build" in the wrong context. Wondering if anyone knows how to disable the audio limiter/compression in recent android releases? You know where the volume drops when the bass kicks in as an example on the tab speaker, as an audio freak this effect is plain as day to me altho the average listener may not notice and also the headphone output is below par. This has to be a simple edit in a configuration file somewhere. Just curious if anyone knows how to disable that bloody limiter lol.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
I was referring to the custom rom part of your question and yeah Sammy is Samsung and most Intel devices are close enough I've been following thier progress on the cm11 build. Not sure about audio
[Dell Venue] GeeKerGurL:
Ahh so you're saying there is a CM build for an Intel Samsung device that should work with ours if/when the bugs are ironed out? That would be cool.
[Dell Venue] social-design-concepts:
The same sources should be able to be used with some tweaking and a little work
[Dell Venue] GeeKerGurL:
That's awesome! I sure wish I knew how to do that tweaking or even how to learn how lol. I was an expert at MS-DOS back in the day and did some simple programs in BASIC on the old 8088, and I was just a kid then, I think I could learn if I knew where to start. Dang I feel old now haha.
[Dell Venue] UnidH4x0r:
Was this tablet worth it? How long have you guys had it?