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[Galaxy S 5 General] rushless:
Agreed on the battery life gains, but the S801 is not much faster than the S600 in regards to CPU power. This really stands out with game emulators tested on the M8. Virtually no frame rate difference with the M8 and S4. The Note 2014 with the 5420 is a little faster with MAME .139 3D games, but the M8 is no better than the S4 with S600. Kind of bummed me out, since expected better.

Sure, the S5 has 200 more mhz than M8, but I doubt this will help much. The A7 chipset (iPhone 5 and Air) though plays MAME smoothly and per the app devs, the Android and iOS versions are compiled similarly. Maybe the S805 will be the ticked for similar A7 CPU power for emulators. Anandtech also points out the A7 is faster in this regard. The only game emulator that uses the GPU is Dolphin. All others emulate 3D via the CPU.

Of course, emulators are only a heavy weight for device consideration with a small fraction of users, so no harm no foul for most. The S801 though does have a fast GPU and good power management.

Added:

My S4 will serve well until something comes along with better CPU performance and NOT the benchmark type. Playing MAME 139 games like Dead or Alive ++ are real cpu performance indicators.
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
I share a bit of that feeling but it looks to me like you need a fresh experience. All the points you raise can be solved via a competitor device. The only reason (by that I mean real competitive advantages) to go with a Samsung device nowadays are (besides the great add campaigns):

Gorgeous AMOLED screen

Sensor richness (if you are into that type of thing)

Light ergonomic device (something they share with LG and Asus Padfone)

If you are not in the market for that type of thing, then you might as well change to a brand that better aligns with your design and overall aspirations, since you quoted many things that competitors do have on offer.

Personally I will buy two devices, one of which will be the new One. For my second device I am hesitating between Z2 and S5. The battery tests and screen measurements on the Z2 will be my main decision critieria.

I looked at the S5 in store and the AMOLED is really gorgeous, the first AMOLED that can convince me, but I am a bit apprehensive with regards to battery life because of the +25% brightness boost. I am a sucker for great displays, as people here know, but I also enjoy great battery life.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
There is something about Samsung devices that I really like, I can't say what exactly. But I am so looking forward a newer iphone with a bigger display, the G3 with amazing specs and hopefully a redesigned interface and of course the Note 4.

What is your opinion between the One M8 and the S5? Have you had your hands on both?
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
Yes I am not really into that fraction of users, lag free general navigation and browsing is all I care about, but you are probably right that for better gaming gains we would have to wait until September.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rushless:
Not to mention the S801 CPU performance in actual practical tests is not much better than the S600 (S800 is same fate too). Benchmarks, smenchmarks. Real tests are what matters.

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The S801 is still 28nm, but battery life is better in this chip. Initial reviews are positive. Would expect similar life to the M8. Exception being you can replace the S5 battery or add a bigger one. I use a fatty on my S4 and lasts a few days with medium use. S5 should last a long time with a fatty.

Added: As far as cameras though, initial reviews state the S5 is noticeably better for all but low light. Decent low light performance, but not as good as the M8 in that regard.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
I have had my hands on both and while the M8 is truly a speedy device, I wasn't impressed much to be honest with you. Maybe its just me, or maybe build quality isn't that big of a deal for me but I seriously wasn't impressed by the build quality of the M8, I actually prefer the M7 looks especially in Black. Not a big fan of the gun brushed metal. Sense is well polished but it didn't seem that much different from sense 5 on the M7. I felt like I was/using the same device but with more screen real estate. Granted I only had my hands on it for about 20 min so I didn't dive deep into the settings and all that. Sense is definitely more polished than touchwiz NO QUESTION but I feel like its a little boring. The settings menu is boring, the UI while being super fast is boring...I don't know man. Maybe with a ROM full of features it might be more interesting but I prefer touchwiz colors, menu and features.
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
I agree that the brushed metal gun version may not be the best looking. On the M8 forum 80% seem to favour it, though. Personally I prefer the silver version.

I think the Sense launcher is far from boring, it is probably the only stock launcher that I prefer over third party launchers but if people want to they can use Blinkfeed from another launcher and the Sense camera app which is the best out there can also still be used.

I guess this is one area where it is subjective. I think the more polished looks can appeal more to most people while the more playful design can appeal more to gamers.and gadget fans.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
One thing is for sure though, the M8 is one speedy device. Seriously its a fast car going 200mph. I was very impressed by how quick and responsive the device was. The S5 and M8 are appetizers for what is seriously coming later this year, to me at least.
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
One+ :frpm Cyanogen -)

But by that time they will be appetizers for the April releases :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
From your point of view ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
Well the cycle is exactly 6 months, so it is like a half empty glass, it is also half full. :)

It doesn't change anything for me because I sell old phones and buy the new ones, so I see ALL phones as an appetizers for the next one.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
True, so do I. However I am highly anticipating the iphone 6 and note 4, two unique devices on a yearly release.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vegetaleb:
I had an S4 for 2 month before returning to HTC One, I didn't like the fact that:

-Screen won't wake up at the moment your press the home button

-Lack of Car app (like Car home app on Sense)

-Lags specially with TW apps like gallery and dialer (open/close)

-Camera was ok for portrait and closeup though not as crispy and detailed as it should

So is S5 correcting these?
[Galaxy S 5 General] jamezr:
The lag issues that were present for some but not everyone was fixed with software updates. Please take a moment to Google the S5 and read the tons of reviews that answer your questions. They are out there for anyone to find. Start with this one: http://www.sammobile.com
[Galaxy S 5 General] rushless:
I have had a fat battery on mine and life has yet to erode after eight months. Some are poor quality, but depends on what your buy. Ditto for my S3, which current owner still uses the same fatty I used.

Not seeing how a replaceable battery is not a better option.

As far as the M8/S5, I prefer the S5 due to battery options and more usable display. The M8 wasted space. The reason the device is tall is the extra camera. The tear down shows they still could have kept the capacitive buttons. Some apps do not work well with the nav bar feature in Kitkat. Still good it was added in Kitkat, none the less.
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
Does it increase the phone thickness. I am thinking that if larger battries existed within the same form factor Samsung would want them t be the factory default.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rushless:
Adds size to it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
Where are the reviews of the S5? HTC One announced last and both Samsung and Sony officially untested apart from 1 review of the AMOLED. No battery life tests. Surreal.
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
Ok I was in store today and the S5's display is king. The display on the M8 cannot compete, the display on the S5 is superior in every compartment and the most gorgeous display on a smartphone so far. What I didn't like on the M8 display was the low gamma (looked liked 2.0).

Weirdly the S5 had no lag today whereas it did the other day. Only the Blink feed equivalent lagged a little.

I didn't like the gunmetal color on the M8 so will likely order the silver one now.

I wish I had AMOLED+Boomsound in one device.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
It's funny you bring this up...I just watched a video on YouTube that addressed almost all of your concerns. Off the top of my head, there is now a car app for sure, screen wakes up immediately once you disable the home button to activate S Voice (was shown in the video), lag seems to be mostly gone in TW apps when I was playing with it in the store and the camera is awesome!

Most of your concerns are addressed in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5M1ZCc7Wjkw

The S5 seems like a winner bro! :good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] jayochs:
guess i'll be seeing you around after all ;) pre-ordered my white verizon one; should be here the 11th!
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
The display on the S5 is indeed outstanding. My magazine sucks tho, will disable/uninstall it soon as I get the phone.
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
I plan on removing it aswell, I already use FlipBoard and Feedly so I really don't have a use for My Magazine.
[Galaxy S 5 General] puremind:
I have to take back what I said earlier. I tested a different M8 unit and the display had much better contrast and depth. Luck of the draw, like last year. I still think the display on the S5 has an edge but it is much closer now. I would be happy with either display.

Agree my magazine is crappy it is not a scrollable feed it requires you to go into categories.

Having said that I preferred last year's blinfeed scrolling animation, so hopefully it will come back as an option.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
I totally agree, last year's blinkfeed scrolling effect made it a pleasure to use. I'm glad blinkfeed will be available for non HTC devices. I'll download it soon as its available.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Apoxx:
Gah, can't gsmarena.com hurry up and get their S5 review out already.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rushless:
One edge in the US is the M8 has the 32gb model. Most US carriers could drag their feet and maybe not offer a 32GB model of the S5.
[Galaxy S 5 General] hemander:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPmdRr1Utsw
[Galaxy S 5 General] omersak:
Android Authority review:

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[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Will add these reviews to the OP.
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
ITS FINALLY HERE!

GsmArena has posted there detailed review!

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s5-review-1064.php
[Galaxy S 5 General] omersak:
Phonearena too:

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/Samsung-Galaxy-S5-Review_id3639

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And anandtech too:

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7903/samsung-galaxy-s-5-review
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Thanks guys!!! Going yo add them to the OP.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s5_Mobile-Phone_review

http://www.stuff.tv/galaxy-s5/samsung-galaxy-s5/review
[Galaxy S 5 General] leomax999:
Any exynos s5 reviews yet?

I'm looking forward to see the difference in battery life and ISP.
[Galaxy S 5 General] hung2900:
I still wait for a real outdoor visibility comparison, not the f*ck up on-paper brightness like all reviews above.

Note 3's brightness is 360 nits but it's outdoor visibility is as good as the iPhone 4S, some what better in viewing angle.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Chad_Petree:
I'm waiting for Engadget's and the Verge's reviews, when is the official release date of the phone? on the 11th? :confused:
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
They should have their reviews up by tomorrow
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
TrustedReviews gave the S5 a 9/10 score!

http://www.trustedreviews.com/samsung-galaxy-s5_Mobile-Phone_review
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Engadget review added.
[Galaxy S 5 General] plasmastate:
Arstechnica and engadget. Both reviewers don't like this phone much. There is no surprising feature. The fact that an iphone5s fingerprint scanner is superior than the one used in phone just shipped, says alot about samsungs implementation skills.

They just throw it "we can do this too, and that one too". Typical Asian kind of mentality (I have Nothing against Asians) but that's just how we're known.
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
Its impossible for Samsung to inplement the same fingerprint technology that is used on the 5S because Apple purposly bought the company that created it and is not willing to licence it out.

You can't complain that the company implemented it poorly when it did the best it could given the circumatances.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Aretechnica (and also Androidpolice) are the biggest fanboys of stock Android. They will tell you how good stock Android is regardless they suck battery like leeches. They absolutely hate anything relating to Samsung. It's not some unknown mystery. If you want to make a phone look bad, it's not that difficult - it all depends on the mentality of the reviewer.

Engadget/Verge are more of elitist kind. They are more about design, and some bla bla, then some camera and weird battery reviews and some more bla bla.

IMO, best reviews are from Anandtech, GSMArena etc.,
[Galaxy S 5 General] naouris:
If they couldn't do a good job implementing it then they should have never put it there!
[Galaxy S 5 General] karmuh:
Is it hurting you by being there? Is it stopping you from ignoring it and using your device as if it weren't there? If you don't like it, don't use it. No one is forcing you to use the fingerprint.

Personally, it's been working fine for me. I haven't had any issues/complaints with it so far. Just because you're having issues with it, doesn't mean everyone else is.
[Galaxy S 5 General] naouris:
No mate it doesn't hurt me at all since I don't own the S5, I'm just saying if you can't do a good job in implementing something that is not necessary to start with then why even try?
[Galaxy S 5 General] karmuh:
Not to be an ass, but if you don't even own the S5, then how would you know if they did a good job with it or not? There are many people who are using it just fine, myself included. Nothing is perfect, not even the iPhone fingerprint.
[Galaxy S 5 General] naouris:
If you're happy that's all that matters ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Its absolutely true, and i n general you don't know whether you like something or not unless you try it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Exactly, thank you.

Everyone try so hard to say which device is better from their own perspective but at the end of the day it always depends on the user.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Chad_Petree:
I'm surprised The Verge hasn't published their review of the s5, I think Samsung didn't send them a device to review maybe to punish them for the hard time they give the galaxy s series for their build quality and touchwiz?

I know you guys think they're snobs but I'm quite fond of them, they always mention how Samsung has the best cameras on Android for example, so it's not just crazy bashing

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[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Why are you speculating like this when you have no idea why their review is not up yet? That's just a load of crap.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Check Verge Review and understand what I meant.

S4 camera got a 9, S5 camera gets 7.

S4 software got a 8, S5 software gets 6.

You get the hint of the level of incompetence..

Even Anandtech came out with their review with 10x more details than these guys (though they took 7 more days).

You want to know how much prejudiced Verge is against Samsung devices? Here's the answer --

S5 will be unarguably the most popular Android phone in 2014. The review was just published today. Yet they though that other articles were more important than S5 review. The headlines tell you the story of their bias.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Chad_Petree:
You're right, it should have been one of the headlines ,but they're disappointed with it , I thought it was a good review, a bit short perhaps but good, its pretty much how I feel about the s5, great camera, screen ,good battery life but the (lack of ) build quality and good software are huge letdowns

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[Galaxy S 5 General] letom:
I believe they did the same thing with the HTC review, I remember having to scroll down to find it during release week so I don't think it's a Samsung thing, the verge is trying to move away from just phones and tech.

In terms of the scores, whilst I think it's worth taking them with a pinch of salt but they make sense. The ratings are a comparison with what is out around the time. Under what you're implying then every phone would be a 10/10 because they improve from the previous year...

On the whole I would say the scoring did seem a bit harsh, maybe an 8 was more deserving. I think what has killed the s5 is no killer feature, nothing which blows the other phones out the windows, best screen but marginally better... And that's it really everything else is average.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
I see what you're saying but take the iphone 5 and 5s....is there that much of a difference? Then look at both their scores on the verge. The 5s doesn't blow anything out of the water vs the iphone 5 either.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
No phone in the market apart from 1020 has any killer feature. What is the killer feature in M8, 5S or Nexus 5 then?

In the N4 review, they gave camera a 8. They didn't even bother to check that it probably had smallest sensor (1/4-inch) in recent history. Not to forget they gave a battery score of 9. I don't think there's a bigger example of incompetence and bias.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Yeah they didn't do a good job honestly, I bet you its because of the plastic of the S5. But that's not fair.
[Galaxy S 5 General] letom:
Hey I'm not going to defend every review, comment and number of the verge, I disagree with a lot of what they say. My point was in the example given by the poster, this did not show incompetence or bias. By defending this one example isn't the same as defending every other against bias and incompetence...

In terms of killer feature,or feature that makes it stand out from the rest, the m8 has its premium build and speakers the nexus 5 its updates, price and 100% stock.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Chad_Petree:
The build quality of the iPhone 5/5s can only be matched by the HTC one, so yes it does blow other phones out of the water and yes apple plays it safe ,and they don't get a lot of criticism when they recycle the same design 2 years in a row, but there is not an urge to change the design, because unlike Samsung's designs, apple's are beautifully crafted , so they get away with it, in Samsung's case it just feels like a missed opportunity and to make the matter worse, they have been recycling the design for 3 years already ! [emoji21]

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[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
I bought s5 from out of India and then sold, what a China cheap looking phone, this phone is over priced, apple 5s,even 7 times better, over this cheap dirty looking phone, I was Samsung fan, after seen s5 uuuaaaeee, using xperia z1 what a awesome smoothness and feeling on holding,

When I had s5 my friend came to me and said hey u bought galaxy grand? Wtf.

Spending 50k and people say grand? Even holding s5 feels like 20$ China phone.

What need for heart beat? I can go to doctor and take medicine,

Sorry guys, please m not insulting anyone but I am just sharing my thought.

If some one don't like my thought please I am sorry for that, I don't want to start argue

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
The thread is titled "Samsung Galaxy S5 reviews Thread"

You could rather start a new thread titled "s5 feels like 20$ China phone"

BTW, what the heck is a China phone?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
oh, for your info, china phone i meant to said is clone phone, and china is popular in making clone phones with big amount, Search on google, you will get 95% looking samsung galaxy s5, both looks cheap..

Edit, i know this is Samsung Galaxy S5 reviews Thread , if you look my post, its a review, not a religouis thought
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Tons of phones have good build quality, it's not something unique. External speakers are fun for school kids (seriously). Nexus isn't available in 80% of countries (speculation, but I think I won't be too far). I paid $500 for N4 because google subsidy is only available in few countries. Not to forget google doesn't have anything called customer care. it's like buying a TV without warranty.

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so you're angry that someone in china cloned S5? What exactly is your point??
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
dude, i m not angry, i am just saying that, this phone after spending 720+ $ not having Good material/premium like sony and apple have,

this phone feels cheap in hand, and its crap handset.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Ok, so what are you doing in this thread? You don't have the phone, so you can't review. You're not adding anything to the discussion. You don't plan on getting the phone in future either.

Other than simply wasting time and space, what exactly are you trying to accomplish here?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
wtf are u saying, will you stop me to share my thought? then show your guts... i already mentioned i dont want to argue if any one dont like post then go ahead,

What is meaning of REVIEW?? you mean Review means person who is using that phone???

go and learn about ReVIEW word.

Review Means, Sharing thought after using that phone. and that what i did and i have right, if you have guts to stop me, then go ahead.

what i did wrong this man having problem, i just said s5 feels cheap in hands, and this man feeling samsung is his company and samsung pay him,
[Galaxy S 5 General] Richcar:
Well you said you were a Samsung fan boy but if you really was almost all of Samsung are build with plastic its not much about the material which is fine to me but spec and the internal software that makes Samsung phone great I have a s1 from 2010 and the build material is still standing strong so its better than a lot of phone out there and cheap china phone can't compare to Samsung phones because there are more superior
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
It's a bait.

Don't feed the troll ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
i agree with you brother, but phone should have smart looking and premium build if phone is overpriced, i just said that what i dont like in s5, but i didnt said wrong about human. :D
[Galaxy S 5 General] dpwhitty11:
Gizmodo's review:

http://gizmodo.com/samsung-galaxy-s5-review-less-is-so-much-more-1563306790