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[Moto X General] tnewp9:
The seller just sent me a refund through PayPal. I didn't ask for it or anything but he sent it back. Note said "Services close". Looks like it over..
[Moto X General] grayvader:
I was using the eBay middle-person and she just told me:

I am sorry that the seller just informed me that he could not provide the code now and told me to refund the clients. If you don't mind, I will process refunding shortly, but will let you know when the service is back again

Darn.
[Moto X General] id0l:
I was just issued a refund as well, no reason for why though......
[Moto X General] znender:
Already did that and made sure everything was aligned.

The code simply didn't work.
[Moto X General] :
The command "fastboot devices" shows your serial number? If so....communication is fine.

That would only leave either bad unlock code or inputting isn't right.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] Ezekial:
If you were the one responsible for buying the phone, perhaps.

In my case it was not possible due to work contracts. I have to buy form carrier.
[Moto X General] southern87:
That sucks. At least you don't have to struggle for a refund
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
Holy crap I got my code the day before this all went down... Hopefully someone else will be able to figure out unlocks. In the meantime the guy originally sent an unlock code for an IMEI that wasnt mine so if by chance anyone reading this has an IMEI number ending with 2172 and you didnt get an unlock code PM me and I'll shoot you over the unlock code the guy emailed me that wasnt for my phone.
[Moto X General] bigv5150:
A guy on here got the wrong code that didn't work it may be his

---------- Post added at 03:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:37 PM ----------

Couple posts above znender is his screen name it may be his.

---------- Post added at 03:43 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:43 PM ----------

Couple posts above znender is his screen name it may be his.
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
hrm, no email or paypal activity here yet. wonder when that's coming.. just wish it would happen if this is over.
[Moto X General] xHighAlert:
It appears, in my case at least, this service has come to a close. I was a day too late. :(
[Moto X General] id0l:
Same, usually keep up with all the android stuff, but it's getting close to the end of the semester so have been focusing on school and of course I'm like a day or two late.....
[Moto X General] znender:
He did the same with me and sent me a code that wasn't mine originally.

It ended in 9500. He resent another one that's correctly matching mine which ended in 5571 but unfortunately, it didn't work when I ran the unlock using fast boot.
[Moto X General] core2kid:
I ended up getting a refund too. Sucks that the service closed. I wonder if Motorola will give us the bootloader unlock after our contracts are up.
[Moto X General] bigv5150:
Has nothing to do with your contract they won't unlock ever.
[Moto X General] danhe:
Services Close with Refund Sent

The man send me a refund and stated "Services Close". So it is too late.
[Moto X General] porkweasel:
Refunded today as well. That would lead to the notion that the person is not in prison and his account (Paypal) has not been disabled. Hopefully that means this could begin again or maybe be passed to another party. I have a hard time believing the person would be able to get back on the computer 3 days after an arrest that likely involves some form of grand larceny. Again, only speculation...
[Moto X General] ballisticn8:
Did you try using mfastboot? Not sure it would make a difference but with moto devices I use mfastboot.exe stored in my androidsdk\tools\ folder instead of standard fastboot.

sent from my thumbs...
[Moto X General] dhemke17:
refunded as well....
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
That son of a biscuiteater did'nt refund my money
[Moto X General] madroxinide:
He hasn't mine yet either. Will probably file a dispute on Friday if I don't hear anything else from him tomorrow.
[Moto X General] OaklandZoo:
Me either. Maybe we will still get our codes and made the cut! Probably not though.
[Moto X General] southern87:
If you don't have a working code. then you are out of luck. You could spend the rest of your life trying different combinations.
[Moto X General] DaRkRhiNe:
I guess Motorola will give the unlock codes once the contract is met. No need to do all the permutations combinations :laugh:
[Moto X General] id0l:
I wouldn't hold my breath.
[Moto X General] akellar:
No they won't.
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
No refund here yet. I imagine there's still a number of us that haven't received it yet, otherwise I think there would be more people posting here. I'm assuming most everyone copied on the email I received last weekend probably knew about it from here.. and there were a bunch. I emailed dude again this morning (after getting no response on Monday) asking what the deal is.
[Moto X General] geekabilly:
Guess again, dark rhine!

tapped out via XT1053 DE
[Moto X General] nucher:
I also asked for a refund yesterday and have yet to receive one. I sent another email this morning. I'm almost certain I'll

never see that $40 again. Paypal says they won't reimburse me because of the way I sent the money. Oh well, Moto X

went on Ebay this morning.
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
How did you send the money? I hope you're going to say you sent it as a gift or something (for my sake, at least). The initial screens in the paypal resolution center seem to indicate i could go forward with a dispute because i haven't received the item. i'll wait until tomorrow to go further.

..I just sent email asking for refund too, to both his 163.com as well as gmail.com addresses. they're the same up to the @, if anyone doesn't have it.. you can see it on that taobao listing, too.
[Moto X General] nucher:
I sent it from a balance I have with Paypal but I think the problem was that I marked it was for non-commercial services or family(gift), I can't remember. I didn't know how to send it and figured Paypal would reimburse regardless, Lesson learned.
[Moto X General] Bill H.:
Curious, to each his own and all that, but is the device that less desirable now that this unlocking route is closed to put it up on ebay?

While I have been following this thread and might have taken up the offer sometime, I was not going to use it until my X's original warranty ran out.

In any case, the phone out of the box does 99.9% of what I want, which is one of the reasons I got it in the first place, and was in no hurry to unlock.

BH
[Moto X General] nucher:
Since there is no current way to Root the phone I decided to sell it and keep using my bootloader unlocked S3. I just bought the phone last week to unlock it and just missed the cut off (sent payment Thursday night). If there was a way to Root it I would keep it though. I need Root for certain apps I use. I may buy a Developer Edition X or see if the S5 can be rooted/ unlocked. I do like the bigger screen of my S3, but the X is a killer phone no doubt.
[Moto X General] core2kid:
I asked for a refund and I didn't get a response. I opened a case on PayPal and had a refund within 3 days. That might be the option you guys should take.
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
thanks for the info. i'm going to open a case tomorrow if i don't hear anything by then.
[Moto X General] Bill H.:
Thanks, makes perfect sense. Hope you can get a buyer for the X and something rootable for your needs.
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
You guys that have gotten refunds or were considering doing this should look to the pledge page for the moto x and pledge your $40 there. Maybe we can get someone to take the job if the cash amount is high enough. Here is the page if you are interested: http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/pledge-bounty-moto-x-bootloader-unlock-t2493862
[Moto X General] specularius:
My code did not work the first four times I tried it. On the fifth try it unlocked.
[Moto X General] beast1700:
unlock code via Chinese method

Hello xda community , just wanted to chime in on my results I finally pulled the trigger and went for the code via the middle man (ebay) and I have to say it was the best 46.00 spent . I contacted him he responded promptly and told me specifically what had to be done I had heard no more codes were available for Verizon phones which turned out to be false I paid gave my ime and had my code with in 24 hours !! Perfect its legit my 4.4 droid maxx is unlocked and rooted in a matter of minutes ....................
[Moto X General] ConstantHero:
You may want to give exact details (links) for the folks that haven't unlocked yet so they can hopefully get a code like the rest of us.
[Moto X General] murso74:
Dudes got one post. He's trolling
[Moto X General] ConstantHero:
Good call
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
whats the point in this.....:confused:
[Moto X General] digital_cha0s:
Some people just want attention
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
Yep sounds like spam to me.
[Moto X General] Reserved Name:
Bootloader codes

So here's some stuff I've been hearing about this situation. I'm the skeptical one.
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
I paypald him directly last Friday and never heard anything back. Some have been posting they have refunds from him but not me. This was the second code I requested and the first one was sent to me within 6 hours. I've emailed him back twice requesting refund but no response.
[Moto X General] mlwald79:
worked on my droid maxx
[Moto X General] T-Keith:
So is there a new link? Is everyone going through the eBay seller?
[Moto X General] tekhna:
Also curious what the recommended procedure is right now
[Moto X General] rohandhruva:
Are you guys even reading the thread? 6 posts above you are people reporting successful purchases from this link: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=26606012868

It worked for me too. I purchased it using my US credit card, no middleman and no gift cards required. On the checkout screen, click on the orange button with the downward pointing arrow and select "Overseas".
[Moto X General] JustROLLIN:
Never mind, sorry.
[Moto X General] tekhna:
No, not really. Thanks for spoonfeeding me the information!
[Moto X General] hecantbreathe:
Should have my unlock code in the morning for my retail Verizon moto x.

Will update if it works or not.
[Moto X General] hryusha:
Hey guys, can you please tell me how you were able to pay?? I am using the site above and whatever chinese options of payment they offer i cant use, and Paypal is not offered. Please help out.
[Moto X General] M973:
you can use the middle man (woman) chinese silk through ebay, you can pay with Google wallet

http://www.ebay.com/itm/171131992860
[Moto X General] MattCropley:
I bought that like Thursday and they still haven't sent me anything?
[Moto X General] hryusha:
Thanks for the link, I did buy this 1.99 service, not yet sure how she will be buying the unlock for me... Will let you guys know if it will work out.
[Moto X General] M973:
In my case, she contacted me, asked for my ebay ID, then replied back that she can't at present receive the payment through ebay, and provided her google wallet account for the payment, then replied back that she received it and will be getting the code
[Moto X General] Rebel908:
You pay both the 1.99 fee and the cost of the unlock ~43 dollars, she gets the code and sends it to you.
[Moto X General] rohandhruva:
To people who are considering this: you do NOT need to go through the eBay middleman (silk or whatever). On the checkout page, you can click on the orange button with the downward pointing arrow, and select the option which says "Overseas". You will then be able to buy using your US/home country credit card (if your card does not block foreign transactions).
[Moto X General] tekhna:
Just tried going straight through paypal, we'll see if this works. Gotta say, I'm somewhat skeptical. And Motorola's gonna come down on this guy like a ton of bricks.
[Moto X General] Dalvik_Cache:
100% agreed. They will probably have him shot in his own country.
[Moto X General] guybanda:
really wanna try this but i can't sign up for taobao without being on one of the countries on the list (to sign up you need to verify with a phone number)

anyone got any ideas?
[Moto X General] MattCropley:
With the amount of people selling these codes it can't be one guy. There is another guy selling them for 70. I think its in the droidhive newsfeed
[Moto X General] Flexia32:
Just made it through all the Chinese and confirmed my Card was charged. I will let you know when I get a code!
[Moto X General] cascade128:
Hi Guys...

I just bought for XT1058 ---> http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?id=26606012868

We talked on Skype. I did pay via Paypal.

24-48h after the payment mentioned in the description of the code sent to my e-mail address, he said.

I'm waiting...
[Moto X General] madroxinide:
Yeah I paid on Saturday and was promptly responded to with the "delayed 3-5 days" email. Since then I have sent him an email at least once a day with no responses from him. I opened a paypal dispute this morning, and will try to escalate the dispute directly to paypal tomorrow.

EDIT: Just received a full refund via paypal from the seller. Paypal didn't even have to get involved. Woulda been nice if he at least responded to my emails. Oh well at least I got the money back.
[Moto X General] id0l:
Honestly if they do take action I find it very hypocritical. So if you crack/exploit a bootloader they don't care and wont take legal action but obtaining the unlock keys they care about? Same end outcome, just different means of obtaining it. It's not like they physically lost anything, at the end of the day its alpha and numeric digits to unlock a phone you paid for.... Not justifying the person for stealing it, but I hope you get my point.
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
Since a code is technically not a tangible item I paid him like a gift to save him a few dollars. Like I said I felt comfortable doing that since he was legit the first time. I don't think I can dispute that is kind of transaction. Yep I'm fd in the a. Ouch.
[Moto X General] akellar:
Verizon isn't going to just shut off all of the devices. That would not only be a PR nightmare but would result in a lot of people just leaving for another provider. Yes I know they wouldn't miss the micro-percentage that it would be. What would be their next step? To shut off the devices and then still make people either buy a new device or pay the ETF? No way.
[Moto X General] id0l:
You could say that you were were paying for the code written on a sheet of paper via snail mail, which would make it tangible. If you sent him it as a gift I don't think you can file a claim regardless though.
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
I'm going to write PayPal an email if I can't dispute it and see what they say. This guy is refunded quite a few people for the same thing maybe an exception will be made. But at the end of the day its a gamble I took and 50% is better than a total loss.
[Moto X General] id0l:
Honestly, just give them a call. Take you 20 minutes instead of waiting around for up to 24 hours for a response. If the paypal representative isn't helpful or says they can't, request to speak with a supervisor. Just be forceful if they aren't the most compliant, but not rude. Did you happen to use a credit card to fund the transaction? If you did you could always file a chargeback with your credit card company.
[Moto X General] asatnik11:
I think this guy is making a TON of assumptions based on virtually no information besides the fact that the unlock code gravy train dried up. If its a stolen database how would moto/vzw know exactly what codes were released/sold anyways?
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
i agree with that. but if they are taking legal action, they could probably get access to the guy's emails and see all the IMEI's coming in etc, whether from the middleman or directly from people. but i imagine that would be long while from now. i don't really think verizon or at&t is going to shut anyone's service off. are they just going to waive your ETF then? why would they throw away money? if they can somehow verify you got the code, then maybe warranty goes bye-bye. but even that is an educated guess at best.

anyway, filed my dispute with paypal this morning, so hopefully this guy just refunds me and we leave it at that.

wow.. i filed the dispute like 20 minutes ago, got on here to catch up on this thread, typed this up, and then i heard my phone beep. got my refund. this guy even responded "refund" to the email i sent him yesterday. what an ignorant a-hole.

to the people who sent him payment as a gift, maybe you can email him and threaten him with a paypal dispute to get him to refund you.. maybe he doesn't know you can't dispute it through paypal. he's checking email...
[Moto X General] geekabilly:
Query tracking ; another field needs to be modified to enable the code; probably other methods too

tapped out via XT1053 DE
[Moto X General] akellar:
Your warranty is void when you unlock the bootloader.
[Moto X General] id0l:
So they say, couldn't tell you how many of my girlfriends Rezounds I sent back with "RELOCKED" on the bootloader and never had an issue.
[Moto X General] asatnik11:
More assumptions based on assumptions. However, you're right that if it was someone on the inside querying a database for each unlock request that introduces some interesting ways for them to track what phones codes were sold for.
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
yes but we're talking about them figuring out what to do with people who emailed their IMEI's, not what they do when one of those people unlocks and then tries to send it in for service or something.
[Moto X General] porkweasel:
Just received an email from the seller that said:

"Refund is complete, I will notify if the service open"

Leads me to believe he's not fired or arrested. Might be a good sign!
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
As did I. Pretty sure he wouldn't say that if legal action was being taken against him.
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
me too.. but that's just the middle man, if i'm understanding correctly. it's not the real seller.
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
Oh I gotcha... Hmmm, still, I've never heard of any company deactivate owners' devices for unlocking the bootloader. That just sounds ridiculous. Correct me if I'm wrong.
[Moto X General] mohlsen8:
i agree with you. but i think others are pointing out that all of this is going off the assumption that this is stolen property.
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
I just responded to his email asking why. I'll report back if he tells me anything.
[Moto X General] SnowKing25:
I may be way off base here, but according to the poll at the top of this thread, less than 100 people have successfully unlocked their bootloader, lets just assume that half of those bootloaders were Verizon phones and assume that only half of the people actually voted. That means MAYBE 100 total people unlocked their bootloaders with "stolen" codes. Out of almost 100 million people on their network, I would hope that Verizon has bigger fish to fry than to blacklist a few people phones. And it sounds like it is mostly false hope that the service will come back, I'm holding on to it, but after saying that "Service close" to a lot of people its probably easier to just say that it might come back. Just my $.02. I missed out on the unlock, so now I have nothing better to do than read this thread and hope.:rolleyes::eek:
[Moto X General] 640k:
hey guy that's been here for nearly 4 years and only 30 posts, where did you collect this information of un-quoted text? we don't know any of these to be true in the slightest. why are people spreading fear and panic??
[Moto X General] dhemke17:
Email I received today...

Refund is complete, I will notify if the service open
[Moto X General] :
If the guy is still out there (not locked up)....my guess is he has a special friend inside Motorola feeding him the codes, and that friend stopped giving them to him. Maybe he got scared, or caught or whatever ....so the seller is SOL. For now anyway.

I doubt he'd be doing refunds or sending any emails or anything if the heat was on him directly.

Now if his Motorola inside man got caught.....then its anyone's guess what could happen next, if anything.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] jideay:
That only polled those people who went through the middleman. Sounds like a lot of people went directly to the source.
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
Tapatalk only people like me don't even see the poll.
[Moto X General] 640k:
ha! i voted without considering the "middleman" part. also, people may have unlocked and never returned to the thread, let alone the lurkers who don't even post.
[Moto X General] :
I seriously doubt those with unlocked bootloaders are going to find their phones disabled. It'd be awfully messy - the Chinese guy has some IMEI numbers. Who supplied the IMEI numbers? Are you sure it was the phone owner? Can you prove it? Do they really want to wade into all of the ill-will they'd generate in order to... what? What would they accomplish by disabling the phones? They already don't have to honor the warranty.

I mean, nobody has any guarantees, I'm just pretty doubtful that Verizon would be willing to incur all of the downside of doing that for what is very little upside. That block of text earlier posted with no source, no context - so what? I could make up any **** I want and say "gee, I'm not revealing my reliable source."
[Moto X General] Danzoman:
Omg stop feeding that crap troll lol
[Moto X General] motoxone:
change thisoec

I am one of the "lucky" ones to pay the guy directly in Paypal and got the code within 24 hours. The code worked perfectly in the first try. This was about 2 weeks ago. It would be pretty insane for Motorola to do anything to the people who unlocked the bootloader through this guy, but I don't want to assume anything. :confused:
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
The odds of Motorola doing anything to anyone who purchased an unlock code is slim to zero. They can't be bothered to stop all of the online stores that sell sim unlock codes, this is no different.

I am sure it was very easy for the guy to get the unlock codes. I suspect they were available from the same server that hands out the sim unlock codes. Unless things have changed over the years Motorola had a server that authorized people would log into, enter an IMEI and it would give the sim unlock code for it. The bootloader unlock code is probably there also, the seller of the codes was probably the first to realize what it was is all. I am sure Motorola removed the access for whoever it was that figured out what the codes were.

In the past all of the cellphone providers had access to the database, and not just for the codes from that provider, it worked for any Motorola IMEI. I have unlocked phones to prove it...
[Moto X General] raiderep:
I unlocked a droid mini and max before settling on a moto x Dev edition so both of those phones have been sold and shipped to other people. Just how are they supposed to go after them when they didn't do the unlock themselves?
[Moto X General] tnewp9:
I already received a refund the other day but he just emailed me today and said "Refund is complete, I will notify if the service open."
[Moto X General] Benn00:
I requested a refund a few days ago, he responded with simply "ok". Hasn't issued one and hasn't answered my last 2 emails. Not sure what his issue is but looks like I'm out $40 lol. I knew the risks
[Moto X General] ks73417:
I'm more concerned about our personal information being compromised by Motorola's lax security protocols. I foresee a Target like situation soon from them, or, a class action lawsuit.
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
Well in the past the database had no personal information, it was simply IMEI and sim unlock code. I see no reason that servers information would have changed.

The Motorola site where you can register your phone is a different animal.