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[Moto X General] Reserved Name:
Hey get off my case, I'm the skeptical one remember? I already bought my code and I'd rather not go about thinking that my phone might be shut off at any time. In any case the quote came from another forum that's why it isn't a quote from this thread and that's also why I didn't just come in here and start saying all of it like it was my words. The person I'm quoting has 20,000 posts on another reputable forum and certainly has valuable sources but I remain skeptical about VZW or Moto coming after people who purchased their phone off contract and unlocked using these hijacked codes. I'm not here to spread fear and panic, quite the opposite. I'd like to know if anyone else can verify this information. FFS the first sentence was "what I've been hearing" not "what I know"
[Moto X General] buschris:
no one is going to shut off anyone's phone and it can't be disabled without physical access and fastboot or recovery so simmer down. Verizon would rather have your monthly payment. If you were also one of the lucky ones to unlock... ENJOY!
[Moto X General] :
I agree that nothing will probably come of it.....but they can disable phones easily without being anywhere near it...just blacklist the imei ....phone toast. ;)

Sent from my N5, Moto X, N7, Gtab3 or S2....
[Moto X General] sprovo:
To stick it to Verizon and ATT for their locked up ways. Motorola was a Google company. And they are into things should be unlocked.

...if only if only

It also could of been a Lenovo employee...
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
Thought of this too low CONSPIRACYZZZZZ I still don't understand why people think there phones are gonna get disabled
[Moto X General] cptsashimi:
Dude, I'm bummed. Can't believe I missed out on this. Guess I'll monitor this tread in hopes of the unlocks coming back.

Day late and a dollar short. Story of my life...
[Moto X General] OaklandZoo:
Never received a code or a refund. I just emailed him asking for one or the other. Hopefully he got to mine in time, but hasn't sent the email yet.
[Moto X General] pricematthew4143:
Unlocked 3 weeks ago and no phone issues...even dropped the phone and in a complete debacle that I caused by trying to be an honest guy ( didn't know insurance followed the line and switch number to an old RAZR m then canceled the VZN insurance cuz they aren't responsible for it if it breaks but also killed it for moto x) am getting a new not refurbished moto x from Verizon for an insurance price cuz I was trying to be the good guy and yes after it being unlocked...and it isn't a warranty exchange but insurance so they didn't care about the unlock or rooted...it wouldn't make me drop the phone so they didn't care...there is not reason to think they will **ckblock your phone from working...its only a big deal cuz they give you a huge discount on the phone for renewing contract..VZN is technically responsible for the rest of that money..they make sure you stay by a 2 year contract and slam you if you dont so they don't want ppl screwing up the phone ie. No unlocked boot loader...its why you can't get a Dev edition on discount
[Moto X General] :
You know your new one will be locked tho, right? :(

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] pricematthew4143:
Unfortunately.. Yes I emailed the fine unlocking wizard and got a don't waste your time but will email if changes happened so toll then and those codes are odd mine started with omygwad..so probably hard to figure out
[Moto X General] duwest:
Hey everyone! First time posting here.

Sorry, but this is going to be long.

Some background first. I got a Razr Maxx in June of 2012 on contract with VZW. 2 months ago the back of my phone started expanding. I could lay it on it's back and spin it like a top! I took it in and the sales rep says the battery was going bad (no duh!) The first replacement phone mailed to me had both hardware and software issues so the Verizon rep offered to upgrade me to a Droid Maxx (refurbished of course) at no additional cost and without changing my plan (unlimited). Yeah cool, I thought. I didn't realize that I would lose ability to freely tether with Foxfi which I used frequently.

So here I am. I started researching my options which led me to you good folks! March 27th I decided to go for the BL unlock code and sent PayPal directly to the guy in China. Like everyone else who tried to get the code after the 27th, there's been no joy.

Here's the meat of my post.

I read in an earlier post in this thread that your phone could be cloned using the IEMI. I wasn't overly concerned until this morning when I noticed a text, sent 4am PST from PayPal, you know the one that says "Your PayPal security code is xxxxxx. This code expires in 5 minutes. Please do not reply to this message." This is sent to my phone whenever I try to log in from another device. I was asleep at that time! Should I be concerned? Again, sorry for being so long-winded!
[Moto X General] tombaldwin6:
Stupid question here . I got my unlock code a few weeks ago. I've been way to busy to use it yet. Is it still valid ? Will it still work ?
[Moto X General] :
Yes

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] tombaldwin6:
Cool... I guess I should make some time to get it done ... Although the the longer I go without root the less I miss it .
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
the hardest part is restoring all your apps/music
[Moto X General] :
If you use Google Music, restoring your music is the easiest part.

I also use PocketCasts, so my podcasts and playlists are all synced.

Add Timely to that so my alarms are synchronized, the couple games I play are signed in with Google Play, Keep handles my notes and to-do lists... it's to the point where there are like 4 apps I own that actually require me to back up data before wiping the phone. Plus my text messages.
[Moto X General] cartmenicus:
Oh for me I can't use ****ing Google music because I'm in Canada and its taking forever for it to be released haha yeah that's not bad then
[Moto X General] mschumacher69:
and call log...
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Hey, that is sooo.... March 28th :) see -> Post #549

followed up in Post 550 with...

:p:silly::cowboy::laugh:
[Moto X General] tscan:
If you want a refund from him you have to initiate a dispute and he will refund your money asap.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Text messages can be done with Go SMS...

While SMS Backup+ still works to backup SMS/MMS/Call logs to Gmail, kit kat broke its restore. There was a Beta being tested, but I didn't follow its progress. ( THIS POST might help with using it to restore on on Kit Kat)
[Moto X General] :
I use SMS Backup & Restore, which works even to back up and restore MMS messages. No problems on KitKat.

I frankly don't care at all about my call logs.
[Moto X General] chris420o:
omg

tell me i missed this? was this legit? can you still get the codes?
[Moto X General] id0l:
Yes, yes, and not as of right now at least. No one knows it if will be available again.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
Yes you missed it.

Legit? Depends.. Yes it worked. And if the code for your phone wasn't found, the seller was good at refunding your money. But the codes were not sold or supplied directly by Motorola in an approved manor, and it was debatable how the codes were actually obtained by the seller.

If you have a "retail" or Moto Maker X for Verizon or ATT, no, you can't get the codes. If you have a Developer Edition (either GSM or for Verizon), T-Mobile, Sprint, or some other carriers, you can still get a code for your phone free direct from Motorola -> https://motorola-global-portal.cust...e/bootloader/unlock-your-device-a/action/auth NOTE: unlocking the boot loader voids the warranty on all but the Developer Edition phones.
[Moto X General] Triumph750:
Refund

I made a payment to sbdnyy@163.com through paypal on 4/4 today 4/8 i sent an email to find out if I was going to get a code he replied 5 minutes later with "refund" I then filed a claim with paypal and was refunded within 15 min.

sorry I missed it though.

there is a $200 BOUNTY for unlocked verizon moto g 1028 bootloader here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2669498 but it seems no devs are interested.
[Moto X General] :
Theres a 1200 dollar bounty for the moro x. Lol

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] hovax615@hotmail.com:
I don't think it is how it was back in the old days. With companies locking down their devices tight. Especially for example Samsung with Knox there's only workarounds like safestrap. Its getting harder and harder each day to unlock a bootloader. People are working at it constantly but each year a newer device with more security comes out and people eventually switch because their phones are getting slower or something catches their eyes. That's why there's Dev edition models and GPe devices now. If you want an unlocked bootloader get one of those or go to T-Mobile.
[Moto X General] JustROLLIN:
Keep in mind that even the GPe was locked down in the case of the Moto X, unless it was a Dev Ed. I have the VZW GPe and it was locked, until I obtained a code via this thread.
[Moto X General] spencer88:
There isn't a vzw gpe anything.
[Moto X General] JustROLLIN:
Oh. I was under the impression that the Xs bought through the Motomaker were considered GPe. My fault, thanks for the info.
[Moto X General] :
Quite the opposite.... I think they can't even be unlocked?? I think. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] scoobaspeaz:
The Verizon Dev moto x can be.
[Moto X General] :
Yes, but not regular retail model or moto maker.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] JustROLLIN:
Well now I know for certain that is not correct as that is the whole point of this thread. Not to mention mine is unlocked. ?

---------- Post added at 06:30 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:28 PM ----------

That is what this thread is about... They can be unlocked with the code. I received one and unlocked mine as well as rooted with TWRP.
[Moto X General] :
Yes....but not anymore. The gravy train dried up. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] James4.0:
Could the code be brute forced hacked?
[Moto X General] :
Theres a thread offering near $1200 if someone can figure out how. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] James4.0:
Usually the unlock methods revolve around back doors or security loopholes.

I am wounding how long it would take a normal laptop to brute force brake the 20 character key code. I didn't know if moto put something in the phone to delay code tries after the X # of attempts or if you could leave the laptop/phone chugging over night and have an unlocked phone by morning.
[Moto X General] :
Like i said...figure a way, and 1200 is all yours. ?

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] super65man:
For some lolz

Hey everyone if you want to push moto to release a free unlock bug them about it. I'm going to tell you all a short sad story. I called the moto technical support hotline, I opened a case knowing I wouldn't have any luck but the sad thing is the worker knew almost nothing about what I was talking about. He stated the only model you could unlock was the dev edition. Fast forward a day he called back and stated something along the lines of "sir I have looked at my toolkit and it turns out att cannot be unlocked' ( he kept telling me to use the moto unlike site). I laughed and said alright man thanks for trying.
[Moto X General] ar31791:
It's only 13367494538843734067838845976576 combinations. If you could try 1 per second, it would only take a bit over 4.25045e23 years. :)
[Moto X General] onepoint:
Good thing I got in before the operation was shut down.

Bad thing I already cracked the darned screen :laugh:

Considering paying Moto the $200 to fix it, but the last time I sent a Moto X in for repair (camera) they lost it and sent me a new white one instead of the black I had sent in. I'm worried they'll lose this one too and I'll be screwed.

May just sell it on Swappa and let someone else take the chance, or find someone to do it locally.
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
Anyone know what happens if you try the wrong unlock code to unlock the bootloader? Is there a limit to how many incorrect attempts?
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
It just says password invalid. I tried 5 or 6 times and didn't receive a lockout message. I was just screwing around with it.
[Moto X General] dkarpov:
Here's an interesting twist:

On March 27, I sent $45 to the middleman. I heard nothing.

On March 28, I send an email notifying him that I sent money. He replied "in 1-2 h done".

On March 29, after not receving anything, I send another email. He replied "Delayed a few days"

Then everything seemed to shut down. No more codes were being given out, and a few days ago, people even start getting refunds. Not me.

Well, on April 5, I send an email asking for a refund. I get no response.

On April 8, I open a dispute with Paypal, indicating I haven't received what I paid for.

On April 9, he sends me my unlock code. And it worked.

Now, I don't know if he had it all along and it just got lost in the shuffle, since I asked for one right as everything was falling apart. Just thought I'd mention it.
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
You got your unlock code email today?
[Moto X General] dkarpov:
Yes, I did. Like I said, though, he may have gotten my code before it was shut down and didn't send it until now.
[Moto X General] id0l:
After seeing this dudes post above, went back on taobao to check out the situation, messaged one of the sellers and he said it will be resuming next week.
[Moto X General] sivarticus85:
Well now that's some good news. My $40 is burning a hole in my pocket.
[Moto X General] id0l:
Same lol, except I wish I had of taken care of this before. Law school exams next week, don't need more distractions now :eek:
[Moto X General] Fadelight:
Incredibly stupid question, but if we unlock our bootloaders, will ROMs designed for the Dev edition phones work on ours?
[Moto X General] id0l:
Yes, it's exactly the same, minus the dev logo on the back.
[Moto X General] Fadelight:
Awesome. I was holding off doing this because I didn't see another reason to unlock the bootloader. This makes it more tempting.
[Moto X General] id0l:
For sure, definitely having a legit recovery makes me feel more comfortable than using safestrap, Ive had some issues with it previously. Love the stock moto as well, just plan on flashing a custom kernel and getting fast charge back, only thing I can say I really miss from running custom roms/kernels coming from a bootloader unlcoked S3.
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
How did you contact the seller? I haven't gotten a single response from the gmail address listed in the beginning of this thread
[Moto X General] id0l:
When you go to the listing, click the little blue flame emoji dude and you will be able to message him.
[Moto X General] mandrsn1:
Have we been able to confirm the radio hardware is exactly the same? I have an AT&T phone that I flashe with the Dev Edition software. I didn't flash the Dev radio, just in case.
[Moto X General] id0l:
Oh my bad, I was referring to the verizon locked/dev phones, not sure on the att and gsm
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
Oh i see, but you have to have an account right?
[Moto X General] id0l:
Pretty sure you have to.
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
Ok, well I don't really know chinese so I won't attempt. Did they give you an exact date when it would start up again?
[Moto X General] id0l:
I just messaged the dude in english and he responded back in english and nope just said next week.
[Moto X General] underdog1799:
Well make sure to let us know when it becomes available :) I was questioning before, but now i'm definitely in
[Moto X General] id0l:
For sure, I'll report back if I get any updates.
[Moto X General] _litz:
Hmmm ....
[Moto X General] id0l:
Up for the past 48 hours lol
[Moto X General] duwest:
You do know that there isn't any such thing as an honest lawyer, right? ;)
[Moto X General] CheezWiz:
I just bought an off contract Verizon X for my wife assuming it could be rooted after doing a quick search... Arg, so I really want to be able to unlock this thing. Please do update us if he comes back and ask him for an alternative email for Paypal again... Plz!!

We are still in unlimited data so long as we keep buying off contract and have gotten used to every phone we had being easily rootable....
[Moto X General] GandalfTehGray:
If you want to do a few workaround's root is possible without unlock.
[Moto X General] natezire71:
No its not. You'll get root, but no WP disable. This makes root rather useless.
[Moto X General] GandalfTehGray:
Well it depends on what the phone is on, latest edition that is the case. But if it hasn't taken last update it could be.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
If the X you got is still on 4.4 or lower, you can still use SlapMyMoto/MotoWpNoMo to root and disable write protection... but if you then take the 4.4.2 update you might keep root, but write protection will become re-enabled. (so changes you make via root, like renaming/modifying files, etc will be lost at power off/on, which makes root a lot less useful).

One other trick is, if you are on 4.4 and rooted/writeprotectiondisabled, you can use safestrap to get 4.4.2, however I've not used Safestrap, so I don't know how stable it is or how well it works, nor do I know how future updates will work. Most of the SafeStrap discussion is taking place over at rootzwiki.com.

If your phone has 4.4.2 already, then you're stuck waiting to see if this person/people can start offering unlock codes again. This unlock process is the same as the factory unlock process Moto offers for developer editions and the X from other carriers. Once you unlock the bootloader, write protection is disabled, and you can root no matter what ROM is on your phone. There is no root/writeproectiondisabe process that works on 4.4.2 if you have a locked bootloader.

Not sure what phones you "had" that every phone was easily rooted, but you should expect root (along with write protection bypasses) to get harder, and be released less frequently. Root is not guaranteed to happen anymore. Especially if you buy "retail" phones for or from Verizon.
[Moto X General] duwest:
Please correct me if I'm wrong. My understanding was that root is impossible once 4.4 was taken unless the bootloader is unlocked prior to taking the update, or root was done previously on 4.2.2?
[Moto X General] :
You can still achieve root on 4.4. Please read the slapmymoto and safe strap threads and whatnot. Actually, there's a sticky in general section... Complete moto x guide by dray_Jr. All you need to is outlined there.

Its 4.4.2 that you can't root if you're already on it.

Sent from my N5, N7, Moto X, G Tab 3 or S2.....
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
OK. I'll correct you. What I said applies to those with a locked bootloader.

SlapMyMoto does involve downgrading the ROM version and upgrading. Since 4.4.2 causes issues with downgrading that is partially why it won't work when you have 4.4.2 already installed.
[Moto X General] CheezWiz:
Thanks for all the good info, but we are at the "stuck" stage at the moment. My wife and I went from Windows Mobile to a Droid Incredible to Razr Max, so we have been spoiled... I should have dug a little deeper but you Google "Moto X" and "root" and you just assume all is good.. Had I dug deeper, I would have known to get the Dev phone... Which I may get for myself when V2 comes out in the summer..

We don't upgrade very often and I only got her a new one because the Jawbone UP24 she has been wanting required 4.3 or higher to work. I tried safestrapping several 4.3 ROMs on her Razr Maxx, but they were all very unstable and basically rendered the phones functions and large battery useless..

We both feel the Razr Maxx is the best phone we have ever owned and she is skeptical of the X, especially since I cannot allow it to take advantage of the unlimited plan, if you get my drift....

Interesting note, before I realized I could trim down her SIM card from the Razr, I just tried activating the one that was in it from MotoMaker (off contract). Verizon website kept telling me that our Razr is 3G and we had to select a new 4G data plan. What trickery! Got a SIM circumcision device from Amazon and we were in business.....

Now I just want to give the Chinese guy my $40 and unlock this darn thing and all will be right again..

So far I am really liking the X but I love being able to plug my Maxx into a TV with HDMI when we travel an watch our Slingbox and Netflix. That is just slicker than snot... (Of course, I can just pack the Maxx and swap the SIM!)
[Moto X General] iaminflames:
So, if we are on 4.4.2 ota and unlock the boot loader it can be rooted right?
[Moto X General] tocirah1:
Yes.
[Moto X General] The Tallest:
Are you already on the unlimited data plan? Did you buy your new phones off contract from a vendor other than Verizon?

If you are already on unlimited and bought the phones off contract from a vendor other than Verizon and can use them on Verizon's network you can keep the unlimited plan.
[Moto X General] KidJoe:
That is correct, and the point of this thread...

The Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon and ATT can't get an unlock code directly from Moto's web site (Possibly due to carrier wishes/contracts). This thread is about a Chinese site that popped up selling the unlock codes for those phones. Those who got a code for their phone could unlock the bootloader and use the same process to root as those who have a Dev Edition X or an X from a carrier like T-Mobile, Sprint, or others where moto CAN/DOES freely give out their unlock codes.

With an unlocked bootloader, you can root as easily as flashing a custom recovery, boot the custom recovery and install SuperSU. This works no matter what stock ROM is on your phone. You could also flash a 3rd party ROM if you wish.

Where as with a locked bootloader (like the Retail and Moto Maker X for Verizon and ATT phones), you are stuck flashing only Moto signed components (i.e. recovery, system, etc). so you can't install a custom recovery, 3rd party rom, non-signed components, and therefore need to rely on a hack/exploit that can be taken advantage of to Root and Disable Write Protection.

With 4.4.2 plugging the exploits used by those with locked bootloaders, Getting an unlock code (then using it to unlock the bootloader) is the only way to root and disable write protection on 4.4.2.
[Moto X General] iaminflames:
Thanks for the thorough explanation. I'll be looking to get an unlock code when the chinaman is working again ?
[Moto X General] uwflatlander:
So I have about the same payment timeline as you. 27 March I sent the payment, 29 March I email for status and get the database abnormal message.

I didn't get an auto refund, I emailed for status on 7 April and got the response of just refund. I disputed the payment on 9 April to get a refund and finally got the refund processed today on 13 April. :(

I emailed asking if the codes are going to become available again and have not heard back from the seller.
[Moto X General] CheezWiz:
Correct, however, as I stated, the web site process to change devices attempted to force me into picking a new limited plan by stating that the current phone was a 3G. In the past, when I switched phones around, it would just say that the new phone was compatible with the current plan and no changes were necessary. (I did have a D3 for a short period but hated it and replaced it with the Razr Maxx I got on eBay) Verizon is trying to trick people into selecting a new plan.

So, rather than tempting fate and going to a store, I just circumcised the Micro SIM to a Nano SIM and plugged it in, no account changes necessary...
[Moto X General] id0l:
You just have to call them up and do it over the phone. I've had similar issues to this in the past.
[Moto X General] zyy757:
Hi everyone.

You guys make that too sharp so Motorola mentioned it, that's why the service is over. So glad that the middleman didn't have any problem from Motorola yet. I'm not criticizing anyone, anyway that's a sad news.