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[Verizon LG G2] Steamer86:
I'll still wait for the amazing devs to release a prerooted firmware image and modem before I take it. Bootloader or Recovery would be nice, but prerooted flashable firmware will suffice. That article...idk.... FM Stereo.... lol.
[Verizon LG G2] something_new:
Looks like you guy's beat us sprint guy's

http://www.mobilebloom.com/verizon-lg-g2-android-kitkat-4-4-2-update-explored/2243587/

sent from my lg-ls980 there are many like it but this one is mine
[Verizon LG G2] Dri94:
Until the ota drops that article isn't much
[Verizon LG G2] 0331:
I just checked twice, once on wifi and once on 4g, nothing yet... It's probably the soak test that was released, meaning 2 more weeks.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
With official source having,been released cm11 well probably improve soon. And with kitkat you can still use other carriers. And it will probably be able to use custom recoveries and roms soon as well just as soon as more people get it And can work on it
[Verizon LG G2] John Cantrell:
Probably not the soak test. If KDZ files are showing up on LG's servers for the Verizon variant and they've released that article, odds are Verizon is releasing it, but being the weekend they probably only released it to a very select few area's to see if they get any feedback and will probably ramp up the release on Monday or Tuesday if everything is going well with no problems. But like most I'm not holding my breath, My friend at Verizon told me that even he isn't notified about new software releases until the day of - and usually only a few hours before they start to push the OTA... Guess that's why some of us know more about what's going on at Verizon than do most of their techs....
[Verizon LG G2] mrgoodpaul:
So has anyone gotten the update yet? I'm really eager to get it but it isn't showing up on my phone.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Nope nothing here either.

Also how do you guys connect your phone to pc companion? It won't recognize mine? I wanted to check for an update from there but I can't even get pc companion set up because it doesn't recognize my phone is connected but when I plug the phone in I can transfer files so I know it's connected
[Verizon LG G2] Rippley05:
Not trying to be a jerk, but who is mobilebloom? I've never heard of them and they're the only ones I can find that mention the Verizon update. Why are people buying into that?
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
According to the Verizon Support rep I just talked to, there aren't any signs of the update hitting before Q2. Having said that, I have also heard that they do not know when updates come out until they are released, so who knows...:confused:
[Verizon LG G2] Rippley05:
This sounds more realistic honestly.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
So we can expect it around April?
[Verizon LG G2] jnclocker:
Verizon really sucks. I surely hope that link was true. I think it may start rolling out tomorrow, if not then we should really dump verizon.
[Verizon LG G2] tattooz305:
Are there any kitkat roms that still use the LG UI? I love the look of the notifications and icons as well as when a phone call comes in, just that simple window drops down from the top, rather than the call taking over the screen.

I am yet to try a 4.4.2 rom because I love the 4.2.2 look and reliability.
[Verizon LG G2] jrgilbert79:
Until we get official 4.4.2 source aosp based roms aren't going to be very reliable.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Not completely but you can flash an aosp Rom and then flash add-ons like jisnus or xbadebs camera mods and jishnus lg home ported for aosp. There's also the lg remote app ported and a couple other ones that can help make it look like stock but you'll lose stock stability and the other features like dialer (I'm not sure if there's an add-on for that yet) . U should probably stock with stock or stock based until kitkat ota comes if you want. Keep the stock appearance
[Verizon LG G2] chrisomnia1:
The LG G pro 2 rom isn't for the verizon version. Cloudyflex (which i am running) is based on the LG Flex, which is on 4.2.2 and we are waiting on the kitkat release for that.

So I don't think there are any kitkat (LG UI based) roms for the verizon version.
[Verizon LG G2] jnclocker:
The official CM11 has been very stable for me as a 4.4.2 ROM. I don't what you guys think but battery life has been very good, no SODs in the few nightlies.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Well that's good to here, but others are still having random issues like sod and call echo.
[Verizon LG G2] Steamer86:
The link stated FM radio..... That alone should discredit the entire article. As usual with Verizon, I won't believe a thing until verified leak or OTA.
[Verizon LG G2] MicroMod777:
Checked vzw's infomanager for new updates and nothing yet listed for kk on G2.
[Verizon LG G2] jnclocker:
What is vzw info manager? Sorry to ask I don't know.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
I just Google searched it and it appears to be a site for employees to stay up to date on stuff going on with verizon for when their away. It said something like "keep up to speed even on the road"
[Verizon LG G2] jesssiii:
Browsing the go back to stock threads, they seem to be full of Lemmings running from stock KitKat back to the sea of Jelly Bean!

Sent from my VS980 4G
[Verizon LG G2] zathus:
Yeah, I've been reading a lot of the other threads for Kit Kat it seems like there are enough issues to make me not mind waiting.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Mostly they're preference things like losd of flash player and root and custom recoveries and stuff. If you're a completely stock kind of guy I don't think there are any actual issues. It's just more locked down which is probably better for the average user. I personally like modifying it So hopefully by the tone it's released there'll be a working recovery method and replacement for loki
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
Yea no rush. I'm using Aeon Flex but even thinking of going back 12B and staying put. Stock + Xposed + Root is pretty much heaven.
[Verizon LG G2] JCottle:
that'd be a nice birthday gift for me.
[Verizon LG G2] nuggetfn22004:
This reminds me of the great wait for the update that us Thunderbolt users had to endure so many times...

However, I'm pretty happy with JB at the moment, not really sure what all we'll really gain (or lose with some of the bugs I see others complain about) once Kit Kat drops for us anyway other than the feeling of running the latest and greatest that we all love so much :eek:
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Having seen GB>ICS>JB on the razr, I can attest to having performance snags from one iteration to the next. The most noticeable from ICS to JB was a negative impact on battery life. Hope that's not the case here.
[Verizon LG G2] Steamer86:
So they can flash KK with custom recovery... among other things.
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
Don't worry your old razr is going to getting kk sooner than the g2.

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/03/17/software-test-drive-incoming-for-razr-hd-hoping-its-kit-kat/
[Verizon LG G2] Poloki:
Nope he is talking the OG RAZR (2011) for GB->ICS->JB. The above link is for 2012 RAZRs (HD HD MAXX, M)
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
Pretty happy with my G2 exactly how it is. If I don't like the update I will just use the TOT and revert back to 12B.
[Verizon LG G2] SquireSCA:
I am still keeping an eye on the custom ROM's for this phone, and still, none of them are truly stable. All of them still have issues.

I am amazed frankly, I have yet to have a phone that was so difficult to get a stable ROM for.

So stock I shall remain for now...
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
That's because they haven't had the time to go through the official lg source. I'm sure a jelly bean custom Rom would be stable. Once they get Time to dissect official kitkat aosp ones will probably improve. It doesn't help that lg won't allow the boot loader to be unlocked.
[Verizon LG G2] jesssiii:
^^This.

I wish some devs had made some aosp jb ROMs for this phone.

Sent from my VS980 4G
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
I think there were one or two but they were discontinued.
[Verizon LG G2] jonstrong:
Yep...much as I'd like to try other ROMs, I'm seeing WAY too many reports of issues, and - as much as it pains me to be stock - stock has been a virtually flawless experience on this phone, and I'm reluctant to give that up. Hoping that once KitKat for VzW G2 is released, some serious custom ROM work can begin with that as a base. Until then, I'm pretty much reduced to lurking here, and sticking with stock for the moment...
[Verizon LG G2] zathus:
Yup. I need my phone to much to go and try and answer it only for it to randomly reboot.
[Verizon LG G2] jrgilbert79:
According to cloudyfa they can build a kk kernel with the sources they have. The only thing holding its back from kk is that we don't have the kk modems for Verizon. I'm pretty sure if they reworked cm kernel with the stock kk modified they would work more stable.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Ok that makes sense. I hope the update comes out within the next be weeks
[Verizon LG G2] naturecannon:
In a few months this LG section will fall back into the" has beens" as the active devs move on to the latest and greatest. Some hot New phone releases coming in the next few months (HTC, lg). It Looks like this LG g2 will hit the archives without KK. Rather odd for a flagship.

I guess I'll go the HTC route. again after having a small tatse of LG. I mean.... the new standard these days is rapid updates if your going to compete in the phone race and LG is surely behind. Blame Verizon if you must but HTC has worked beside each carrier to make sure kitkat hit all us carriers on the HTC one in a timely manner. HTC has been top notch on updates and communication. HTC always kept the users up to date via Twittering, a major win in my book.
[Verizon LG G2] pwshadow:
There aren't any spectacular phones for the devs to jump to just yet. The gs5 has almost the same specs as the g2. The g2 is not old news yet.
[Verizon LG G2] tacosrdelicioso:
Wow. Just have some patience there mate. It's just an update. On what's just a phone. It's coming. Are you the guy that leaves towards the end of a long line just before the destination because it's just been too long? I think you are. Lol
[Verizon LG G2] Dri94:
All he was saying is this phone will have less dev when the new gens come out. Which is true in every phone case. Nothing bad that i read.
[Verizon LG G2] jesssiii:
The HTC One isn't rooted is it? I tried both the S4 and the One but ended up with the G2 because of root.

Sent from my VS980 4G
[Verizon LG G2] king.james:
Verizon sucks with updates... I am so ready for the KitKat update, seems like all other models have received the update.
[Verizon LG G2] 55Pegasus:
I've been having a little fun~
[Verizon LG G2] StealthMode:
I'm on 11A still, and I have the updater frozen, but I decided to unfreeze, and check for updates. There is a 172mb ota waiting, I don't remember how big the 12b update was, but this seems kinda big for a little ota, could it be kk?
[Verizon LG G2] 55Pegasus:
Not very large, it would been more like 2+ gb.
[Verizon LG G2] StealthMode:
http://www.mobilebloom.com/verizon-lg-g2-android-kitkat-4-4-2-update-explored/2243587/ sounds like maybe not? The kdz or tot file with easily be 2gb though, but I wouldn't think the ota would be
[Verizon LG G2] 1ManWolfePack:
It is utterly pathetic that LG's flagship phone is on 4.2.2. I don't care what anyone says - this is a joke.

This will be my last LG purchase. Not impressed. The damn S3 has a higher build than this phone.
[Verizon LG G2] da_reeseboy:
If you would've purchased it on a carrier other than vzw or Sprint you would have the update already.
[Verizon LG G2] qwas7899:
Not at all helpfull
[Verizon LG G2] StealthMode:
But you get his point, right? It's not LG, it's a Verizon issue at this point.
[Verizon LG G2] da_reeseboy:
I agree, but neither was your comment. The update will get released eventually, and all of this irritation will be replaced with complaints about its bugs.

People tend to find what they look for in life. Those that are happy waiting and content with their phone are that way because they look for all the good, fun, and enjoyable things right now and will notice the good side when they get the update. However, those that complain about how long the update is taking will find something else to complain about when it's released...
[Verizon LG G2] pepsishine:
ugh, verizon is making people philisophical
[Verizon LG G2] StealthMode:
It's a coping mechanism I think lol
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Actually it is. He's complaining about Lg update and this guy is telling him other carriers have released it already. People should know by now that verizon takes forever to update and when you buy the phone That's a risk you take.

Plus this phone destroys the s3. Not sure why so many people are complaining. It would be better if verizon,hadn't screwed around with it. But then again it's verizon.

Also weekday kinds of camera issues do you guys have? The camera is pretty good for me except for the fact that the view finder lags a lot in low light
[Verizon LG G2] tbis:
International g2 got the update today... it's Verizon not lg they gave the carriers the tools to put the build together and bloat it up

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4.2.2 g2 is better than 4.4 s4 and s3
[Verizon LG G2] 1ManWolfePack:
I don't care who's to blame - it's f'ing pathetic and that's all there is to it.
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
So complain to Verizon, not to us. Preaching to the choir doesn't do anyone any good.
[Verizon LG G2] jnclocker:
Lets hope whoever said 3/20 for the update was right. I have a good feeling it will be tomorrow, if not screw verizon then i guess.
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
I'm starting to think there is an issue with cdma. Makes sense since both Sprint and Verizon have yet to update. Seems like cdma gets in the way of everything. Haha
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
That was me and you have more faith in my source than I do.
[Verizon LG G2] jrgilbert79:
There it's already a working recovery method. User the old loki bootloader with an updated kk kernel.

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Too bad the one sucks with giant bezels and a tiny screen...I could care less if we get software when the base hardware is pathetic.
[Verizon LG G2] openwheelracing:
I got myself a G2 to play with hoping it can replace my Note 3 but I am dissapointed to find out it is stuck on 4.2.2 and yet FoxFi does not work at all. I guess I am stuck with Note 3 even if though G2 gas the better footprint...,sigh.,. Verizon.,.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
The only reason I got the verizon in the first place was because it was 100 dollars cheaper and it's unlocked. I'm using it on gsm carrier. The price was too good to pass (I got it 340).

Now let's hope for tomorrow update.
[Verizon LG G2] jnclocker:
Let's keep the faith Brothers. Hopefully some good news by 11am today. Cheers.
[Verizon LG G2] pepsishine:
im not holding my breathe.
[Verizon LG G2] starflyr:
http://wccftech.com/downgrade-lg-g2-to-stock-android-4-4-2/

What in the heck is this?
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
crap, that's what it is. the link links go to 11A 4.2.2 for VZW.
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
Ha they must have read the other carp article stating that the vzw g2 already received 4.4. And decided to make an article on how to downgrade.....assuming it can be done on both Sprint and Verizon.

This is why I only trust droidlife and android central ha.
[Verizon LG G2] Bigralphn:
Maybe not helpful but truthful. Everyone slams the phone maker when almost every time it is the carrier holding the updates. LG had the update done before Christmas. It then lies with the carrier. I had the same issue with every Verizon phone. I watched Samsung after Samsung receive JB before my Verizon.
[Verizon LG G2] openwheelracing:
It is the carrier holding back updates. Especially Verizon.
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
I just talked to their tech support again. The few times I have called before, they didn't even acknowledge that they even had the software. This time she said that they have it, but it is in testing internally with no release date set as of right now. I'm hopeful that it may be before the end of the month.
[Verizon LG G2] da_reeseboy:
I wonder if they are having SODs and RRs lol.
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
She also said that LG uses versions of the software (like 4.2.2 over 4.3 for the launch) that they know are rock solid with their hardware. I don't think anybody here can complain about the quality that 4.2.2 has been with this phone so far. My wife's Galaxy S3 updated to 4.3, and it runs terribly now. I, too, love having the latest and greatest, but I want it to work properly as well. If Verizon takes a little longer to test their build, but puts out an ota that doesn't have the bugs associated with the other variants of the G2, then I think the wait will be worth it. On the other hand, if Verizon takes this long after everybody else to get kitkat out, but it has the same issues from the variants already released, then I think that will go to show that all of their talk about taking their time to test software is just a bunch of hot air.
[Verizon LG G2] incubus2:
Maybe someday they'll wise up and let us easily do whatever we want with our phone......oh wait daydreaming again.
[Verizon LG G2] mrgoodpaul:
I emailed lg about the update and rhis was their response

Thank you for contacting LG Electronics.

I am afraid we need to get the authorization from the Carrier in order to develop and release this update. For example, AT&T and T-Mobile already authorized this update and this is the reason why it&#39s been released to their LG G2 users. As soon as this information is authorized, you will receive a notification from your Carrier.
[Verizon LG G2] jtorrence3:
Doesn't seem to be the trend... :(
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
Sounds like it's sitting there waiting for the green-light. This is definitely more in than I got from LG back in December. All I got was a "we can't talk about it" canned reply.
[Verizon LG G2] antinorm:
As a former owner of an HTC Thunderbolt, I have little faith in Verizon's testing process. They put out an OTA update that caused random reboots, sometimes several times a day, for many people.
[Verizon LG G2] wcr84:
I would be surprised if we even get kitkat on Sprint or Verizon. You have to admit this phone hasn't sold as great as they would like. The flex I understand isn't booking either. I can see the flex get KitKat and G2 getting it in July
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
It's already confirmed to be getting kitkat. I really hope verizon doesn't hip against that
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
It is a shame... I like this phone. I like enough as is that I felt no need to root it. I only rooted previous phones to tether which I never really use. I would gladly take this phone over an S4 any day. Many people are missing out. LG needs to advertise this phone. Even at 6 months old its still a top contender. Fast, functional, and full of features.

Not really sure what I would gain with a 4.4.2 update. Could someone enlighten me as to what the pros are for Kit Kat over 4.2.2?
[Verizon LG G2] wcr84:
I'll say this. I played with a KitKat version of the G2 the other day and despite what some people say. The KitKat version was a lot smoother and I could actually see that the phone was out performing mine side by side. No, the cosmetics aren't much different other than the status bar. But I promise the phone just runs better.
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
Verizon had said that my old LG Revolution was getting ICS back in the day... It never made it out of closed testing nor did we ever see a leak of it either. To this day that phone is stuck on 2.3.6
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
Relax guys. Jessh. Everyone is used to Android updates by now and I'm sure we'll get it eventually. Just grab XPosed if you want a KK theme and immersion mode.

4.2.2 is fine. I have a Nexus 7 with 4.4 and I can't tell the difference between 4.3 and 4.4.2. There is no big deal. I'm a flashaholic and I'm not even in a rush.

I'm thinking about flashing BACK to 11A just because it worked so well and 12B has push email is broke.
[Verizon LG G2] jrgilbert79:
Why would you need FoxFi when you can natively tether with most custom stock roms...AKA Malladus etc.
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
Push mail works fine on mine with 12b. I get push from work exchange, gmail, and outlook.com and they all work perfectly.
[Verizon LG G2] 1heffer:
Does anyone feel like filling me in on why it's not possible to port kk from a gsm model?
[Verizon LG G2] StealthMode:
Kernel for one
[Verizon LG G2] jrgilbert79:
Actually they said that they can build kernel from existing source...we don't have kk modems.
[Verizon LG G2] StealthMode:
Ahh, cdma fun
[Verizon LG G2] mrgoodpaul:
Is there a way we could petition them to guve us the update? Like if we complained enough that they had to give us the update. Or like we all stopped paying the overpriced bills or something. We got to show them that were fed up with their late updates, broken promises, and overinflated cell phone bills?
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Considering there's a million other users who don't care and don't even know about updates or xda... no. Unless we could somehow tell everyone there's probably not enough people here to get anything done
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
I just hope the proximity sensor bug is fixed.

If anything like just a slight tad bit of oil from your face gets on that spot the phone thinks the sensor is closed and it's a pain. I'm having to constantly keep that one little spot perfectly clean.
[Verizon LG G2] TEXASMADE1978:
It's 12b, I just updated my G2 earlier today and it was 172Mb.
[Verizon LG G2] starflyr:
Really? I've never had this problem... What happens?
[Verizon LG G2] mrgoodpaul:
I spent an extensive time on the phone with verizon and lg and got some good feedback.

From lg I was told that it was sent back to testing

From verizon i found out that their philosophy is to wait until all the other companies get the ota and wait and see all of the bugs. Then they patch the the issues to provide a better, stabler rom for the customers. They go thru a process where they get a build, test for issues, patch, test for issues, patch until they come put with a stable rom.

They started this philosophy because of all the issues they have with other phones previously. Since they are the nations largest 4g provider, plus they are international, they think they should provide a smooth, pristine experience for all of their customers.

Also, I was informed that, the biggest reason they are taking a longer time is because there are so many software changes and they don't want to lose a bunch of customers bc they dont understand the updates.

Yeah, i got a girl and i know how to flirt my way to some good info.

I talked to a Nikki and she was 23 from washington state. Yeah ? I'm good
[Verizon LG G2] Steamer86:
You got played.
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
Yeah I'm pretty sure if any info like that was given to Verizon employees That alot more info would be leaked out.
[Verizon LG G2] icebergz12:
She still gave no eta, so it's still just excuses.. just saying.
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
Yeah that's what I'm hoping for. Nice to know I just need to clean it. I thought my phone was broken. And there is no way I'm going through any more Verizon "certified" phones.
[Verizon LG G2] mrgoodpaul:
I don't think its completey fair. You guys should be patient. Haste makes waste.

Think about it like this: The early bird gets the worm but the late bird gets the fatter, slower one. There is no need to be extremely patient. They have always come thru for us and tried to give us the best. It may not be exactly what you think is the best but they are the World's leading wireless provider meaning that if they screw up then they can lose a lot of reputation and customers. Just think if the s4 had a bad ota that was quickly shoved out to meet demands. How many people do you think they would lose?

So quit being so selfish and realize that, no you're not getting what you want when you want it but delayed gratification always produces a better outcome
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Sarcasm?
[Verizon LG G2] mrgoodpaul:
Nope full seriousness