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[Verizon LG G2] tacosrdelicioso:
Probably is true. If it comes tomorrow. It got here by the end of April no?
[Verizon LG G2] pepsishine:
i forgot my phone at home today, so obviously this means the update will come out today.
[Verizon LG G2] annoyingduck:
Ha, you are all powerful and wise ;)

My latest theory:

With the g pad leak, I'm starting to wonder if that update has not been officially released because of Verizon and their "new" g pad. It's a release key build dated Feb 5th, and lg said they would both roll out at the "same" time as they are almost identical builds. What does this mean? Well vzw just got the g pad, I find it hard to believe that would get the update first over the flagship g2. Simultaneously is more likely or us (the g2) first. A release key build with a date that far back calls out many scenerios, and I do think they are linked. Afterall, the 2 devices pair together software wise, literally.

-VZW LG G2 VS980
[Verizon LG G2] slagg3r:
Yeah LG announced that knock code is officially coming to the g2 in April. I wouldn't be surprised if verizon made us wait till April
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
This is insane. If I didn't give any updates with any of my clients when we're working on projects I'd get ran off. People get excited. It's normal. If Verizon would just say here's what we're thinking. It could change but we're thinking this. Then I could live with that.
[Verizon LG G2] pepsishine:
india officially has Kit Kat on their G2's before Verizon customers do

there are 5 year old kids digging through **** pits while wireless printing on their lg g2's
[Verizon LG G2] mistermidas:
This literally made me LOL
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
You've gotta understand the philosophy of monopoly. Verizon doesn't care what a small segment of their customer base thinks or wants because, in their reasoning, we need their network more than they need our money or loyalty. So, if a few jump ship over this, no great loss. The majority of their consumers just want something that works out-of-box, without any regard to firmware levels or improvements, period.

And, besides, most of us know their track record and we stay anyway.

At least we know LG held up their end.
[Verizon LG G2] HeXaLox:
See but if that was the case why did the HTC one receive their 4.4 kitkat earlier and yet we don't have ours? :(
[Verizon LG G2] pepsishine:
this is a company that is losing their marketshare to tmobile who is now not only cheaper, offers phones 0 down, and offers vastly better customer support than verizon. but will now PAY FOR EARLY TERM FEES.

verizon isnt a monopoly, they lost the speed crown to tmo, the reliability crown to ATT, and the customer support to both.
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
All that notwithstanding, they still are on top of what they feel matters: volume of customers and geography. I live in a rural area and vzw is the only real option. I'd go to T-Mobile if I could, but they're nonexistent here. Att sucks here and so does Sprint.
[Verizon LG G2] Rippley05:
I'm in the same boat. Sprint was great, but I was with them for years..waiting for 4g since wimax and the original evo. It never came, looks like it almost never will.

At&t and t-mobile have no coverage here. Carriers can offer whatever sweet deal they want, until they expand their network...they'll stay where they're at on the list.
[Verizon LG G2] koftheworld:
Honestly, I think they could just shut us up with a leak.
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Any former moto people miss cheesecake about now?
[Verizon LG G2] renawld:
yea im guessing the knock-code firmware will be released with the 4.4.2 ota update. But that's just silly considering how small of a firmware update that will be. the 2 turtle race now is between sprint and verizon and i wouldn't be surprised if sprint releases the OTA before us.
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
Maybe in other states.

In Alabama Verizon is still king. People make fun of people on att and tmo.
[Verizon LG G2] tacosrdelicioso:
Anywhere outside populous areas in Michigan Verizon reigns king
[Verizon LG G2] incubus2:
Seems appropriate. ...
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
You should double check your facts. Because T-Mobile gained market share last year does not mean VZW lost market share. Verizon generally adds 4 to 6% quarterly. In 2013 Verizon most certainly did not loose any market share or profit. T-Mobile while adding large market shares comparatively to previous years is not re-investing enough money back into their own infrastructure. While speeds are good if you live close to a cell tower this unfortunately will not last. Also they have huge gaps in their coverage. I applaud their efforts to bring in new business, they have definitely hit on something successful but in my opinion if they do not move to expand their network infrastructure to handle the increasing load and coverage they will implode.
[Verizon LG G2] tbis:
Don't understand
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Well it appears the update was uploaded to the ota servers then removed right away.
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
Hopefully Friday, and its a solid build.

Awesome timing too cause Xposed was just updated for kitkat. My current stock 4.2.2 build is pretty nice though and already themed and setup.

I'd have to go back to stock since I have a custom recovery, unless we can find a 4.4.2 TOT file.
[Verizon LG G2] 1ManWolfePack:
You won the internet for me today. Well done.

HTC is struggling hard, even though they release beautiful phones. I wouldn't be surprised if they coughed up some dough, or possibly an exclusive (see: today) to get their update pushed out quickly. It makes their fans happy. They NEED more fans.

My two cents...
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
Fyi, Sprint kernel source was linked to in the main kitkat thread.
[Verizon LG G2] Dick Ripple:
If you want to keep root and custom recovery you don't need to do anything except wait for it to be released as a ROM. From reading other threads they have to use the 4.2.2 bootloader with kitkat system image and a custom kernel compiled from source to keep root and custom recovery.
[Verizon LG G2] Tersanyus:
I also got that update unsuccessful message the other day. I just thought it was a glitch. I check for updates a couple times a day just for kicks.
[Verizon LG G2] koftheworld:
Knock code is out for the g2 in Canada. It came with the Kk update as has been predicted on here.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Other versions didn't get it though. So if verizon has it in the update it'll have been worth the wait but I'm,not gonna put too much hope in Verizon
[Verizon LG G2] slagg3r:
Like I previously stated knock code is supposed to hit our g2 in April (this is from lgs knock code press release), knowing verizon they won't push 2 updates that close back to back. It would be a burden to them so I can see them waiting on our 4.4.2 for a combined update that will do both.

And I'd be ok waiting if that's the case if not just give us our kitkat and push the smaller update after. Oh this is verizon were all talking about
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
Yup. Hopefully Friday!
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
But apparently Canada already got it s so maybe we'll get it sooner than April. Also considering the g pro is getting kitkat I hope the g2 gets the next android v version after as well. At least 4.4.3 which fixes lots of small bugs supposedly
[Verizon LG G2] jesssiii:
I don't care so much about the recovery, but I need root for Xposed. I heard with the SuperSU survival mode it's possible to take an OTA and keep root?

Because I'd rather have all the update, including bootloader if possible. Or does the bootloader not matter?

VZW LG G2 VS980
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
KK boot loader and firmware are keys to stable custom roms.

I could do without a custom recovery but it is super nice to have for emergencies. Root and exposed are required for me to upgrade
[Verizon LG G2] tacosrdelicioso:
Well the bootloader is going to be loki incompatible
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
At the moment
[Verizon LG G2] 55Pegasus:
Looks like Sprint beat Verizon again. https://www.lg.com/global/support/opensource/opensourceList?types=ALL&search=LS980
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
The tool is saying there is an upgrade available again. It is crashing on me again. I think it might be because I am on a company computer!
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Please let there be hope.
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
I think it's very near. I just pulled an update off Verizon's servers, 669 megs
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
Here is what I am seeing
[Verizon LG G2] slagg3r:
That's what size it was for Rodgers in Canada
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
Can you enlighten me on how you did this (by PM if need be)? Also, can you upload the update?
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
So just to be clear. This update will have to be done through that tool? No Ota?
[Verizon LG G2] slagg3r:
No idea. Maybe both like tmobiles?
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
What JackpotClavin pulled is the OTA. If it were done through the tool, then the size would be almost 2GB.
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
What are you supposed to do with that? Could you flash it or something?
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
Ok thanks for clearing that up.

So what's stopping us from Appling the Ota he has pulled?
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
The only thing stopping us is he hasn't uploaded it :(
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
All eyes on you dude!! :)
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
Well there's no knowing if this official or not, or if it will even work on our devices (if it's meant for Verizon testing devices) and I don't want you guys to bork your devices trying to install the OTA that isn't meant for release devices.

I cannot take the OTA because I run CM11 and use the f2fs on my /data partition, and I just don't want stock LG software, like at all
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
I'll risk it. Send it my way, and I will let you guys know!
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
I don't really know how to apply the OTA, because I've never navigated my way around the stock recovery, so I'm not sure if there's an adb sideload option, but that's what you should look for. Or if there's an actual UI that you can use to navigate to the location of the file on your sdcard, and tell the recovery to use that file.

Again, if this is meant for engineering devices and bricks your device, I take no responsibility because *you chose to install the software* I just received a notification that there was an impending OTA, and downloaded it. So don't shoot the messenger! (I'm looking at you, about xda users, Verizon Communications, and LG Electronics) Also, if this is not the definite selection for the 4.4 update, and puts your device in "limbo" because you don't have an official build, and therefore cannot take an incremental update to the *actual* OTA update that Verizon decides on, I also take no responsibility.

https://pvzwmdmcdn.vzw.motive.com/firmware/LG_VS980_12B_TO_24A.bin
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Send it over.

EDIT: He already did. Thanks Cal!
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
In all of my other phones that I have owned, I have always put it in the /cache folder, and rebooted to recovery to apply the flash. Sometimes I could put it in /cache and go to the check for update spot in settings. It would notice the update file, and reboot in recovery to flash it. The interesting thing with this file is that it looks to be a bin file, whereas most updates are zip files. Hmm...
[Verizon LG G2] koftheworld:
Thank you man for the link!
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
All LG OTAs are .bin files. They are in some proprietary form that I cannot extract or view. Only the stock LG recovery knows how to deal with and apply the OTAs (to my knowledge, but I'm always looking to learn)
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Well, it doesn't trip the install notification if it's put into the fota folder. Checking for updates only yields "no new update available" msg.
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
My phone still says no new updates available.

The Updates come for LG directly not Verizon, correct? So LG's website should be the first place we see it?

I wonder if you can flash the 10A firmware, boot, download the 22A (but don't move it), trigger the software update/download of 12A, then replace the file with KK, let it reboot and flash.

Sounds logical enough.

If we can get it booted, isn't there a method for creating a backup or TOT file from a running install to redistribute?

Worst case scenerio, you should be able to do a PowerOff>DownloadMode>Push 10A TOT file. I've done that before after 12B update got me in a Bootloop and I was stupid enough to wipe system partition.
[Verizon LG G2] slagg3r:
Should be put in /cache I thought?
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Fota folder is in the cache folder
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Soooo who's going first?
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
It most likely is, if I had to ponder a guess the soak testing has started and we should hear rumors of random people getting the update. If I had to guess I would say official release in the next 10 business days barring any issues.

.h
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
From what I am reading, it looks like we will have to use the LG Flash Tool. The question I have is can we use the same DLL that is used in the "go back to stock" thread with this bin file?
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
You can always let us know post-mortem?
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
You wouldn't have happened to have received a .fls file with the .bin, did you?

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I guess I could check the md5 hash on the original dll, and compare it to the one that is with 11A currently...

This takes me back to the xt912 206 update. I was on an island for almost a month before Matt and Co figured out how to get off of the leak onto an official firmware. :D
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Ah....the good old days. I dodged that one but loaded the 214 & 215 leaks.
[Verizon LG G2] koftheworld:
12B still comes up using the CSMG tool btw
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
You can wait for the official release...
[Verizon LG G2] rfarrah:
How were you able to select the correct phone? It doesn't give me that option. Is there a newer version of the tool somewhere?
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Orrrrr figure out how to flash it and quit waiting for pos Verizon.
[Verizon LG G2] pwshadow:
+1
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
I sure can, but where is the fun in that? :D
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
You don't even know for sure it is the 4.4.2 update. Instant gratification is not always a good thing.

This thread is like watching people with no arms or legs trying to open a bag of chips. Even though you know you should pay no mind and move on you still stop and stare.
[Verizon LG G2] Dri94:
Rolls over slightly on chips. Pops bag. Eats chips.
[Verizon LG G2] pwshadow:
"No arms" would have made your point...I'm sure there are lots of people without legs that enjoy chips. And how is a person with no arms or legs supposed to move on? They will likely need to leverage the help of an able bodied person. In which case they could probably ask that person to open the bag of chips for them.
[Verizon LG G2] da_reeseboy:
Wow, based on the file name we are getting a 24a version possibly? Jackpot, can you see what comes up for you using the lg link?

http://csmg.lgmobile.com:9002/csmg/b2c/client/auth_model_check2.jsp?esn=YourEsnHere (obviously change YourEsnHere to your ESN... as if you didn't know that as a dev lol)

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You are right there. We have no clue on this, but as most are getting a 20a or 20b revision taking them to kitkat, I would hope that 24a might be kitkat. That honestly is just a (very hopeful) guess tho.

Edit: It would be stupid tho for most of us to try to flash it since we have no clue what we are doing. I am tempted to try since I dropped my phone today (again) shattering the screen to the point that touch doesn't work (again). I've already made the insurance claim and will be receiving a replacement tomorrow, and have also already swapped my sim to my wifes old droid 4 to use until the replacement shows up. It would be awesome to see what this is.
[Verizon LG G2] sefirosu0522:
Sounds like you're the best candidate to try this. Do it, man!!!
[Verizon LG G2] RandomGuy982:
Unfortunately it looks like this is useless without the fls (baseband) file.
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
****. We can't use another baseband from an older ROM?
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
+1, I don't get the option for the verizon version either.
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
Last time I got an OTA update, I dumped my entire fota folder so I think I can emulate us downloading the update through LG's updater in the phone. I'm gonna make up a zip that I need one of you guys to extract and push to /cache/fota
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
Shattered screen guy you're up first!
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
I've attached a file called fots.zip. You have to extract it and it will yield a folder called "fota" with some files inside it. You have to download the OTA linked a few pages back, and rename it to "ipth_package.zip" and copy that into that fota folder, the push that fota folder into /cache/ and try opening up the LG updater, and see if that kick-starts the OTA process.

After pushing the extrcted files to /cache/fota, the directory should look like this:

/cache/fota/dummy

/cache/fota/fota_script.txt

/cache/fota/ipth-muc.prop

/cache/fota/ipth_package.bin.dd

/cache/fota/ipth_package.zip

/cache/fota/lge_fota

Remember that the file LG_VS980_12B_TO_24A.bin must be renamed to ipth_package.zip and pushed into /cache/fota/ipth_package.zip, just delete the "dummy" /cache/fota/ipth_package.zip that I attached in the original file as a placeholder for the actual thing
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
So we can update?!
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
I don't know, I can't take the update because I don't wish to restore to stock, and also because I have f2fs as my filesystem on /data

But those instructions are the best thing that can be done to kick-start the OTA process. Otherwise we are stumped (unless anybody has a suggestion)
[Verizon LG G2] slagg3r:
Hopefully broken screen guy can at least tell us if that works. Won't matter much for us completely stock people but

It's a start man.
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Well, shattered screen guy you're up. Tell us how it goes.
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
The world rests on the shoulders of one man.... With a shattered screen
[Verizon LG G2] sefirosu0522:
Anyone have an update to the most recent LG Updater?
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Well, Cal, thanks. We love you.
[Verizon LG G2] Mattecko99:
What are the possibilities it is actually kitkat?
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
50/50
[Verizon LG G2] Mattecko99:
So what if it is? Would it be the final build that Verizon has for it? All bugs aside? Or will we be able to take the official Ota that they release after we take this one?
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
Let's cross that bridge when we get to it.

Right now we're all on pins and needles with shattered screen guy.
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
I'm not a clairvoyant, but I'll try to answer your question.

If was the final build, VZW prolly would've released it instead of pulling the update 5 minutes after uploading it. No one knows of it'll have bugs or not. Probable that we won't be able to take the OTA.
[Verizon LG G2] Mattecko99:
Whenever screen guy gets on. Hopefully he's still looking at this post because I'm on the edge of my seat with this.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
How did you get it to recognize the verizon version? That's not working for me. There's no option to even select it :confused:
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Just took one for the team and followed this procedure exactly. Still no ota recognition by the update check even after a reboot.
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
So you don't have 4.4.2.
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Maybe. Or maybe it's not complete.
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
I'm gonna go back to stock and try to spoof the settings app into kick-starting the OTA process
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Sounds like a plan, but the baseband file may be missing. I know the first time I got the ota to 12b I postponed it then moved the files out of the fota folder. But I remember it being 2 files.
[Verizon LG G2] da_reeseboy:
LMAO!!! I just sat back down and caught back up on this thread since my last post 3 or 4 pages back.

Where I'm at: My phone is still on Liquid Smooth from a 10a firmware base. I've finished downloading the 12b kdz and will be pushing it to the phone, then I'll follow whatever steps you give Jackpot. I did get the ota from a few pages back downloaded already, and I'll grab the other you posted as well.

Let me know what you want me to try

- Shattered Screen Guy
[Verizon LG G2] JackpotClavin:
If somebody who has downloaded the OTA, and has put the OTA in the location /cache/fota/ipth_package.zip wants to try this method, open a blank text file called "command" and copy "--update_package=/cache/fota/ipth_package.zip" (without quotes) and place "command" in /cache/recovery/ so the it would now by under /cache/recovery/command, then boot into recovery and see if the recovery takes it from there

If that doesn't work, try putting "--update_package=/cache/fota/ipth_package.zip" (without quotes) and put a newline after it, then retry by booting into recovery and seeing what happens
[Verizon LG G2] Rippley05:
Damn. It felt so close
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
We are close man, wait until shattered glass does the ****. We'll be golden if it works.
[Verizon LG G2] annoyingduck:
It's too funny that nobody has referred to "shattered glass man" by his user name.... :p

-VZW LG G2 VS980
[Verizon LG G2] mrdunn:
It's a great name !
[Verizon LG G2] da_reeseboy:
I know, right? Wait which name are you referring to? :P

I'm still trying to backup stuff from the internal storage before pushing the 12b kdz. With that said, will I be able to do anything after flashing the kdz without a functioning touch screen?
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Go shattered screen guy! Your our last hope. Lol, this'll be awesome if it actually works.

I'd still line to know how to get this connected to the support tool. I can't find our device listed
[Verizon LG G2] koftheworld:
Can this procedure be tried by the original download er?
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Who else is willing to try?
[Verizon LG G2] marleyinoc:
Did [MENTION=252795]garyw[/MENTION]ojdan also try with the command [MENTION=3727492]JackpotClavin[/MENTION] suggested?

Did [MENTION=3727492]JackpotClavin[/MENTION] return to stock and try it himself?

Tune in next hour for the exciting conclusion!
[Verizon LG G2] mistermidas:
Lol you Verzionguys want this OTA so bad you're willing to permabrick your phone? Im just bouncing back n forth between this thread and our thread (LS980) coming over here for laughs and to see what the actual outcome of this experiment is gonna be. Whether its epic....or just an epic fail....Im curious to see!!
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
You Sprint guys are lucky. Hopefully we could get this to work, if so, we're in the Gold...or the chocolate...

(get it? Because of Kit Kat being a chocolate bar. Very bad joke)
[Verizon LG G2] Swamphound:
+1. [MENTION=1314215]da_reeseboy[/MENTION] you're becoming a legend! Y'all have me in stitches and God bless you for what you're doing!

Sent from my LG-VS980 using Xparent Green Tapatalk 2
[Verizon LG G2] bonesjones:
You guys don't have what we have. We have shattered glass man! So we're not afraid of a brick!!
[Verizon LG G2] Jhall8:
And if he succeeds, he'll meet us in the desert and then tell us: "Say my name!"
[Verizon LG G2] Steamer86:
This makes me miss bricking my Spectrum.
[Verizon LG G2] Enter The Nexus:
Bricking Bad
[Verizon LG G2] Jhall8:
+1- Now that's what I call follow-up!
[Verizon LG G2] mistermidas:
I literally lol'ed. Especially since me and my wife just started watching that series on a marathon on Netflix a few days ago, and only saw that episode this earlier this week.