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[Verizon LG G2] player911:
All devices are getting updated at the same time. The HTC One and LG G2 were the first to receive official updates. Every carrier gets the updated source at the same time. Samsung will focus on the Note 3 first, then S4, then S3, then Note 2 (maybe if ever). The KK update is already out of LG's hands. Verizon is testing it now and we're waiting on them to approve it. Verizon uses CDMA code that is not open sourced (which is why Google Nexus stopped being on CDMA). The international, korean, GSM, etc all are open sourced cellular drivers so they are quicker and easier to pass.

So relax.

We'll get it soon.

There might also be more at play then releasing approving and releasing. Maybe Samsung or Motorola has contracts about releasing KK on other manufactures phones for X length of time. Politics always screws the little guy.
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
Pretty sure HTC released KK updates first to carriers (outside of Motorola's AOSP phones) and LG second.

So it isn't totally outside of logic to see 1 or 2 or 3 HTC phones out of the gate first.

I'd like to point out the possibility of it NOT passing Verizons standards and getting rejected back to LG for more tweaks. CDMA is a different beast vs GSM. With the case of the Galaxy Nexus, Google dropped support for it because they lost their license to distribute CDMA drivers in their AOSP code.
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
Hence why cdma is total trash and outdated. Lol
[Verizon LG G2] Rippley05:
I agree, but I just left at&t because of their extremely poor coverage and lack of updates. Note 3 still has no kit kat. Sprint is CDMA and so far, they are killing about everyone with updates. It's a luck of the draw thing IMO. Verizon doesn't care, they know their network will keep their numbers high. Hopefully we'll get it before the summer, but who knows.
[Verizon LG G2] incubus2:
Summer? Lol cmon man the writing is on the wall let's give them Q1 then we'll start talking summer.
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
Not sure why people expect different. Verizon has never lead the charge on anything. On VZW feel honored if they release a bug fix let alone a complete OS upgrade and when they do... it is never in a timely manner. I figure October. Hey remember Verizon always listens to what their customers want and puts that first and foremost.

/sarcasm
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
Well Verizon only cares about moto Sammy and Apple. So we get screwed. Lol.

I might switch to straight talk. At&t is surprisingly good in my house lol. I can pull full bars in my basement with straight talk meanwhile Verizon keeps jumping between no service and one bar.
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
Yea well KitKat is ranging and they don't have any 4.4 phones except the Moto. I don't know of any coming out soon except S5 and G3 but who knows when they'll come to Verizon.

If they had a few new phones out with kitkat, I could understand holding off older phones to drive newer phones at first. But Its in their best interest to get updates out now. Note 3 and S4 and G2 are their flagships... outside iPhones.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
If only android was like ios in the way that updates all cone from the same place at the same time. But then it wouldn't be android because there be no customization. It'd all look the same :rolleyes:
[Verizon LG G2] Melodycd:
I leave not in US anyway. I ve chosen Verizon only because of build in QI charger. Now i regret it. Cause we always get it later except for Iphones (this is my third Verizon phone). Next time i will think twice if i am going to take new phone not long before new major Android update. Giving some approx. dates also could be good, but Verizon is too "clients oriented". )))
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Is it possible to flash the 4.4.2 tmobile kdz? Didn't the 4.2.2 tmobile Rom work. I feel like doing that since it would also solve the issues I'm having since I'm using a gsm carrier on mine. Butt I think it'll brick the phone. Well once 4.4 is Out I hope there's a way to get the tmobile variety Rom on here.
[Verizon LG G2] rfarrah:
I'm not a developer, but I don't think you can flash a GSM ROM on a CDMA phone.
[Verizon LG G2] xgman:
Verizon clearly doesn't see os updates as a selling feature. The wait between updates in this fast paced marketplace is an eternity. New models come and go faster than Verizon reacts. Just the way it is. A couple months from now we will already be talking about the G3 with the latest KK.
[Verizon LG G2] Bobaroo:
Verizon has a top network to worry about, they cannot be releasing buggy phones and updates. They much rather be slower on the updates then hurt their reliability.

HTC One on VZW has 4.4
[Verizon LG G2] BreakingVZW:
No less than 9 GB of bloat. And they'll add an angelic choir that sings Verizon every 30 seconds and we won't be able to disable it. Totally worth the wait. Freakin Verizon.
[Verizon LG G2] Melodycd:
Its 2 completly different depts. )) I was working for Europian company that had those depts even in different buildings.

What Verizon should do is to make schedules public, this will automaticly close such threads ))

Отправлено с моего LG-D802 через Tapatalk
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Don't forget about having Bing hardcoded into everything
[Verizon LG G2] BreakingVZW:
Oh of course! How could I forget? Also, when we sleep the G2 burns the Verizon logo into our eye lids... Because Verizon owns our dreams as well. That's prime ad space.

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Did I mention my theory that Verizon powers their network with a small portion of our souls?
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
You guys are cracking me up! A bit OT, but funny nonetheless. I posted early in this thread that I heard 3/20-ish from a rep at Best Buy. I'm not going to hold my breath but I also won't get upset if it doesn't happen before then. LG said 1st quarter for rolling out kitkat worldwide so as long as we get it this month, we'll be within their target timetable.

As for Verizon taking us for a ride on the bloat boat... That's a given, and you can always disable the bloatware apps without fear of borking an OTA.
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
You have to root your phone and void your warranty to disable the bloat. With the introduction of the Edge plan, if I am paying full retail price for a phone, then I should get to decide what comes on the phone. They need to make all of their bloat removable with out root.
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
I meant no out of the box, new 4.4 devices. Verizon only has older devices to upgrade to 4.4. I haven't heard of any new 4.4 phones coming out except the new Galaxy. I think I heard about a new HTC One X coming out too. And the G3, but that probably won't be until November/October before we see that... and by then we'll be looking at Android 5.0
[Verizon LG G2] DroidSloth:
As was mentioned earlier, Q1 was LG's own deadline for getting the update to carriers. Once it is in the carriers' hands it is no longer in their control and there is no more deadline to hold them to.

From what I've read before, VZW's test period is about 30 days. If they had to send it back for any minor tweaks, that takes LG a little time followed by another 30 day test period. So this could be soon or a while, either way we'll get no word from either party.
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
No, you don't need root to disable the bloat. Go to application manger and disable the offending apps.
[Verizon LG G2] Steamer86:
And task manager for services (in settings).
[Verizon LG G2] SquireSCA:
First of all, let's be clear on something. You can disable 99% of the bloat without root. Just go in and disable it through the app menu under settings.

Second, you can delete the stuff if you want, but why bother? Is saving a couple MB that you will never use, really a big deal? It isn't like getting deleting the bloat makes your phone faster. It isn't like freeing up RAM makes it all that much faster. Disable the stuff you don't want, and leave it there so that any OTA's that come out will install without any issues...

This obsession with deleting all bloat, as if that accomplishes something other than the innate desire to "stick it to the man" by setting up your phone "your way", is silly. It doesn't really help you, and it just causes OTA issues when VZW does get around to updating the phone... Disable the crap you don't want, without root, simple as that.
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
I never even knew it could be disabled until I saw it here :p I used to just hide then from the launcher and never knew it was there. But now I disabled them too just because and I don't see any difference so no reason in removing them for me as long as they're out of the way.

But also I get why people remove it. I wouldn't want a bunch of extra useless apps on my phone that I don't use. But I guess it depends on each person. I like to see things in more than one way but you're right it's just gonna make it harder on the person when the ota cones
[Verizon LG G2] jrgilbert79:
Who would want an OTA? There are plenty of devs here I trust far more than Verizon.
[Verizon LG G2] SquireSCA:
Because most of the ROM's have issues. Instability, missing features, SOD's, etc... There isn't a single ROM for this phone that works as well, and is as functional as the stock ROM.

I use to be a flashaholic. I recovered when I realized that there is very little to be gained by constantly having to fiddle with and fix your phone, rather than USE the stupid thing. LOL

I understand why people still do it, but for me, until a ROM runs as well as stock, and does everything that stock does(without workarounds), then there is no reason to use one. Just being able to tell my friends how L337 I am, isn't enough any more. ;)
[Verizon LG G2] Tyrate:
Awesome Idea to come up with this tread.

I've been looking forward to is release for sometime now. Hope to see it soon.

Should I also assume there will not initially be a root exploit for the update? So don't ota until there is one?
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
I saw in the root thread by Autoprime that he said once Sprint gets the update he'll work on rooting it. Sprint will probably get it before us so we might have root when ota comes out for 4.4 but probably not right away. So far the earliest estimate of when we'll get 4.4 is the the 20th of March according to sometime who got the info from a best buy worker with the phone. Not sure if that's reliable but the only info we seem to have. If it came out on the 20th I'd be happy because that seems too early for verizon. I feel like we'll have to wait until April
[Verizon LG G2] MetalMan2:
Same with me. My phone basically only stayed stock while I drove home with it from the store (got it 15 days ago). For the first week I was trying different ROMs left and right, mostly 4.4.2 stuff. Was having plenty of problems. I liked OmniROM the most, but eventually after messing with its OpenDelta updating system my G2 sort of medium-bricked, and I had to flash the stock 11A file in download mode. That was no fun and I lost a bit of stuff (normally back-up everything daily in the morning, but this happened at night so I lost a day's worth of stuff).

Went to Malladus 1.2.8 and have stayed there for more than a week :) Haven't come across any stability issues, all the features work consistently, etc. Obviously it's missing some of the nice 4.4.2 features but hopefully the stock VZW OTA will help devs with that.
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
My bad on my verbiage you can disable most but you cannot remove it. I would prefer to remove it, like amazon, audible, slacker, vz tones, and navigator which I don't use at all. Disabled is not uninstalled.
[Verizon LG G2] SquireSCA:
No, it isn't, but it amounts to the same thing. You don't have to see it, it doesn't slow the phone down, it doesn't run in the background or get in the way... But uninstalling it does create issues if you want the OTA, so why bother? Just disable it and call it a day.

It's a phone to me, not an extension of my being. It's an appliance, like a toaster. If there is a setting on my toaster that I don't use, I don't pull it apart and tear that circuit or setting out. I simply don't use it. ;)

On the phone at least I can disable it so that it isn't seen or running in the background... problem solved. I get no extra pleasure of knowing that it is gone. As long as I don't have to see it, it is as good as gone.
[Verizon LG G2] billykxda:
Thanks for the thread.

Keeping an eye on this!
[Verizon LG G2] Tyrate:
Thanks for the response.. I love this board! :D
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
Good for you... that's you, and I am me and I prefer it gone. Uninstalling bloat like amazon, tones, etc.. has no effect on OTA updates in my past experience. I came from an LG revolution that received 3 or so updates over 2 years none of which had an issue because bloat-ware was removed. Please point me to that thread. The only issues I have ever seen is with a custom recovery and OTA, I have not read where someone rooted, removed bloat, then had issues with OTA.

Also your toaster example is off the mark. I am not talking about ripping out the radio module on the phone. This is more akin to purchasing a new laptop and not being able to uninstalled all the crap-ware preinstalled on the machine by the manufacturer. Thanks for your opinion though.
[Verizon LG G2] :
I can agree on that. But hey they want to make sure the SW includes will work perfect on their device. ALso they don't want to release time tables because they will have to stick to it and people would wonder why it takes them forever.
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
So what will happen to this thread when the update is released Friday?

Yup I'm guessing Friday. Ha
[Verizon LG G2] player911:
Well if the OP is still around, he can change the title to KitKat Bug Discussion Thread (JUST RELEASED).

March is coming to a close. I'm in no rush to upgrade. I just want to kernel and other stuff released. I'm leery about upgrading after LGs recent move to try to block downgrading.

Ill wait for a custom recovery and a custom prerooted flash.
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
I'm mashing the check new button and nada.
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Where is this button of which you speak?
[Verizon LG G2] BOY_:
Settings >about phone >software update.

It was sarcasm, I the previous post implies it's out (hence change the thread title). Believe it when I see it.
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Sarcasm on my part too?
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
I'm here :D

Once it comes out and someone confirms I'll change it.

And I doubt it'll be here Friday but that would be awesome If it did come out then
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
Yeah I would doubt Friday as well. But I don't base it on leaks anymore since its rare a software update is leaked.....at least recently.
[Verizon LG G2] jrgilbert79:
Just speculation this could be slowing it down.

http://www.ibtimes.com/google-worki...android-devices-kitkat-qualcomm-chips-1559771

Battery drain issue on all qualcom chips for 4.4

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They want to make sure that the applications work because verizon wants the money kickbacks from things like NFL app they could care less if it works well for you or I as a consumer. Please don't confuse this practice as something beneficial in the least or take it as a sign that they care about you or I.
[Verizon LG G2] Haxcid:
definitely a concern. I hate to see that battery drain.

I don't see Verizon releasing 4.4 this week or next, They have not even began soak testing but anything is possible. I personally am in no hurry. The phone is rocking along just fine for me.
[Verizon LG G2] Steamer86:
It is beneficial. They make well enough to benefit themselves as not to have many many clients calling into tech support for software help due to bugs. This saves their time and money, in turn making us more bug free. Don't get me wrong, its all about the bottom dollar, but this is a mutual benefit minus time. And no, they do not care.
[Verizon LG G2] heffzilla:
FWIW, On Moto phones (razr maxx HD)and also the Samsung (fascinate)the ota would fail if bloat was removed. Experienced it first hand. I have heard about it on other phones also.
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
Yep, had it happen to me on the og razr.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Purchase titanium backup. Just disable the apps. Solves the issues with missing files. .....most of the time.
[Verizon LG G2] garywojdan81:
That's what I use rom toolbox to do.
[Verizon LG G2] John Cantrell:
I've contacted a friend who works at the Verizon Call Center in Charleston. He's tried to get me the info as to when but even he can't find anything out... (and he's pretty high up the chain there, not just a regular call handler one of their "tech guys")... :(
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Thanks for trying. Let us know if he finds out anything.
[Verizon LG G2] ricecake2000:
Or if he wouldn't mind letting all of us in on the soak test. ?
[Verizon LG G2] abdel12345:
Yeah now that would be even Better:D
[Verizon LG G2] tbis:
Is there a port of the tmobile ota? I want to try that 4k Camera mod so bad.
[HTC Droid DNA] sulla65:
When I was running Nova launcher prime on 4.2.2 with Sense 5. I was able to force wallpaper scrolling. But the option for "force scrolling" is no longer there on any 4.4.2 roms with sense 5.5. The option for scrolling is there, but it doesn't work. Anyone else having this problem?

Thanks
[HTC Droid DNA] AdventL:
I am curious about this too, scrolling doesn't seem to work for me either ):
[HTC Droid DNA] j3nn:
Ah! I just installed Nova and thought I was just dumb because I couldn't get my wallpaper to scroll. Um... Just making sure- scroll means you have a "double wide" image that goes from one half to the other as you go back and forth between home pages?
[HTC Droid DNA] sdamark:
Can't speak for Nova launcher, but I think the last Sense launcher to have wallpaper scrolling was Sense 4+
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diceman725:
I'll bite... A bit of a kerfuffel upgrading from ARHD 51 to 52. But, I'd taken a backup of the 51 image and ported it to my laptop using the ROM Manager download server. However, when I try to restore the file (by installing the ZIP it created), it fails on me. Am I doing something wrong? There's no option in ROM Manager to restore the ZIP file. Anyone have this problem and knows how to resolve it?

And yes, I know this may not be the optimal place for this thread, but frankly I can't find a better place. Just looking for someone who may have an idea to help

TIA
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] raghav kapur:
Well, you can just copy/paste the backup zip onto your pc. Re-transfer it to THE CORRECT DIRECTORY on the internal storage of the One. If you have, it will restore perfectly. I've tried a TWRP backup, that worked like a charm. NO reason why CWM would be different.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] diceman725:
Yea, tried that. I may have a corrupt ZIP or something like that. I'll play with it some more.

Thanks for response
[General Questions and Answers] adulate:
Hi everyone. I am at a loss here so I am hoping someone can help. When I rooted my Canadian rogers Samsung mega 6.3 (model sgh-i527m) I lost my wifi and it wont turn on.

I tried putting official firmware back on and still no wifi. So I have rerooted it but still have the issue,

So I am in need of the radio/modem file for my phone. Can anyone point me in the right direction??

It worked great until I rooted it so I just need help fixing the wifi.

My problem is identical to this one but their fix is for the Samsung s4 youtube.com/watch?v=26kFIPQ_WMY

Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] danomanno:
Hello,

I just installed the new dev version of CM11 for my i777 from here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2559694

and was hoping that it would have fixed USB audio out that CM10.1 didn't appear to have and that others have stated that is disabled in the latest stable release.

The cable that I am using shows "Car mode enabled" when plugged in but when I attempt to play any audio, it still comes out through the phone. Is there any way to enable this functionality, maybe with a different kernel or maybe modifying system files?

Any recommendations?

Thanks!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S II SGH-I777] danomanno:
98234452

So I did some major researching and found a solution for anyone interested. It seems that only Android version 4.1.2, packaged in CM10 (not CM10.1 or later) work great with usb audio out on the i777. Not quite sure what happened with CM10.1 or later that broke usb audio functionality but I hope it comes back in the later releases.

Some report that CM9 will also work.

Here's a link to CM10 builds if you want to experiment:

goo.im/devs/cm/i777/nightly

I installed cm-10-20121217-NIGHTLY-i777.zip which looks like the last CM10 build before it goes to 10.1.

So far so good, but it's only been a few hours so far... :)
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ingoljosh:
I know there is a way of removing the icon labels on the lockscreen shortcuts but where is this setting hidden?

Someone please help.

I have added a screenshot to show you what im talking about.

Under the voice search app i would like to remove the words "voice search"

Can anyone help me with this?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ingoljosh:
so theres really no one that can help me with this ???
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Wesley32:
Not sure what version of android you are running, but I looked on my international D802 4.4.2 and I didn't see the option to remove the words underneath it. Only options were to remove or add lock-screen shortcuts. If you are rooted you may be able to do something about it, other then that, I would wait for the 2.5 version of Xposed, maybe?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] XxZombiePikachu:
have you tried looking for a different launcher I read launcher pro can do so but that's from the gingerbread days so I'm sure wouldn't want that
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Amandyke:
Install Xposed Framework and G2 Xposed.

The stock rom will not give you the option to hide them.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ingoljosh:
G2 Xposed does not have this option. I already have it.
[G2 General] durandetto:
I think you'd fit right in with the iPhone crowd.
[G2 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Thread closed.....
[G2 General] serseri22:
Well the reason I create this topic because I get lost in Official LG G2 Android 4.4 (KitKat) Discussion Thread

They talking about all variants of g2 just to make easy for us to get all the latest news about our d802 international open kitkat update
[G2 General] vonex:
good idea, not sure if every 1 else will agree!

has any 1 actually received update yet?
[G2 General] serseri22:
It will be nice if someone do get it we want that person's to share with us :D
[G2 General] ClawOfDoom:
It's not quite ready yet. I got this message from LG yesterday

http://postimg.org/image/olqsfot31/
[G2 General] Fir3blade:
Good idea to create this thread, the other one has gotten really confusing.

Anyways I have read yesterday that the rollout of the KitKat update for the unbranded D802 will start on March 14th, but can't remember where I did read this.
[G2 General] silverblack:
What software version are you guys on ? mine is D80210b-EUR-XX.

Its a 32gb version sim free.
[G2 General] vwbest16:
No mention of information for Europe unbranded devices when receive Kitkat update.

Singapore will receive kitkat update unbranded devices mid-March.

http://news.asiaone.com/news/digital1/android-44-kitkat-upgrade-lg-g2-happening-mid-march

For Εurope upgrade Kitkat for unbranded devices I will have to delay upgrading late March or early April.
[G2 General] chrisnkazz:
Mine is D80210f-EUR-XX

16GB on 02

Waiting patiently for some kit kat :D

Sent from my LG-D802
[G2 General] BackDaws:
Yeah mines the same version 10f
[G2 General] hamad138:
I have E on Germany, whats the difference between f and e?
[G2 General] jimbobaggies:
I have the D802 16GB version and have upgraded to the Germany Vodafone KK using the kdz file.... all seems to be working. Will grab the international version when it eventually arrives!
[G2 General] serseri22:
Mine is d80210f- EUR-xx
[G2 General] serseri22:
But you won't be able to receive ota is in it so when it does come for UK you have to flash 4.2.2 back to get ota