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[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
FIRST LET ME SAY: MODS.. AS LONG AS THERE IS NO OUT AND OUT CURSING AND PERSONAL ATTACKS PLEASE LET THE THREAD PLAY OUT..

Ok.. With that out of the way ***LET"S GET IT ON !!!***

Since I posted this Pic and this Link:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lSI8SgXd7w ( All you need to watch is the first 1:40 )

And updated my Signature.....

I've received attacks left and right & up and down with your defense of the LG G-Pad 8.3. Even though I OWN an G-Pad 8.3.. :cool:

And I'm running the 2-25 revision of the Mahdi ROM and it's quite frankly IMO the Best & Most Stable ROM for the 8.3 with 100% of everything working flawlessly.

So.. You Tell Me...

Why do so many of you HATE the fact that I ACKNOWLEDGE Samsung's New & Powerful Tab Pro 8.4 to be a Superior Device over the G-Pad 8.3?

Everywhere I mentioned it as an ALTERNATIVE to the established issues of LightBleed.. Blue Line.. Dim & Cloudy 279 Lux Display that one has to accept with the LG G-Pad 8.3 it seem to drive some of you to fits..:laugh:

Why?

The Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 has a Superior CPu.. a Superior GPu.. Superior Resolution and Clarity.. These are FACTS.

So.. I'm really not understanding so many not accepting there is a new King Of The Hill in 8" Class Tablets.

Is it costly? YES! $400.00 Bucks! (The G-Pad was $350.00 the first few weeks as well..) But it's the BEST!

I can surely understand if you say: "Hey it's not for me" I get that... I've owned a Tab 3 8.0 and a Note 8.0.. I hated the physical home button and capacitive keys.. you're always hitting them accidently.. you have to edit the build.prop to shut them down.. Plastic Feel.. I get that..

But this is not about that..

I sense HATERED that the G-Pad only stood for *60 Days* as King of the Hill in 8" Class Android Tablets.. :cool:

LG HAD A CHANCE TO USE HIGHER END PRODUCTS!.. They chose not to..

So.. Here comes Samsung.. and builds a Superior Tablet. A little bigger.. with much stronger internals and a best in class screen to die for..

Forget YOUR BUDGET for the moment.. What's your Argument that the G-Pad 8.3 even holds a candle to the Tab Pro 8.4?

I welcome discussion & views on these FACTS if you think you have any
[G Pad 8.3 General] woody1:
Well, there is always going to be a new and better device. I'm sure nobody thinks that they've found the best device for all time. So, probably the Samsung is better in many respects. So, that's about all there is to be said about that.

Anybody here who feels the need to have the latest and greatest will undoubtedly want to consider getting one. If they do, then their best bet is to read about it in the appropriate forum. This forum is directed to people who are interested in the G Pad. You've made people aware of the superior qualities of the Samsung. Best if the discussion continues in the Samsung forum.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
I respect that comment Woody.

But you see.. when I made mention of the Tab Pro 8.4 it was as a Solution... A new solution to the Old Problems that have plagued the G-Pad 8.3.

I don't own the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4. I have No Plans to sell my 8.3 to purchase a Pro 8.4.. But like I stated somewhere else as I started to get ATTACKED at All Angles, The suggestion of the Pro 8.4 as an option was to help those that come here and read these threads as part of their research when trying to make a decision on which tablet to purchase.

Believe it or not.. people are concerned about getting an 8.3 with LightBleed or the Blue Line.. or the Dim Screen @ 279 Lux.. so they read the forums and try to make a decision not just based on their Hearts.. But their Heads as well.. $250.00 to $400.00 is not throw away money.. And folks should be made aware that no... you don't have to go to Apple's Eco System just to get a "RETINA" like experience.. And neither do you have to Settle for what LG offers with the G-Pad 8.3.

There is another choice... Now.

And it's the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4.

LG had a chance to build this Exact Tablet.. They could have used the same CPu / GPu that Samsung did.. and were certainly capable of fitting the G-Pad 8.3 with a better calibrated screen.. They just chose to sling this out here as you see it.. And ask what a lot of people ( myself included ) felt was a Tablet priced way too high @ $349.00+ Tax.. If I had not found the deal I did at BestBuy on a Saturday I happened to be there and got mine out the door for less than $300.00 I would not have purchased the G-Pad 8.3. I've own 2 Samsung Tablets over the past year and 3 Nexus-7 2013's.. The Tab 3 8.0 and Note 8.0 that I owned had issues I could not live with so I sold / returned them. I love the Nexus 7 2013 on one hand and hate it on the other.. The Support it gets here in the forums is *Un-Equaled*.. But, I cannot live with the 7" screen for more than a week without wanting something bigger..

The LG 8.3 fit the bill in the 3rd Quarter of 2013 at the price point I got it at.. even with it's faults, it was the class leader in 8" Android devices.

That's no longer the case..

And to answer your question about moving the "vs" to the Samsung forum, someone there would say "Move it to the LG forum" :cool:

And since the attacks I received came from my own fellow LG 8.3 owners... I'm going to leave it right here. :cool:

So.. I'm still waiting as the hours and days pass.. to here HOW outside of Intro Price ( Remember the G-Pad was list @ $350.00+ Tax ) the LG G Pad 8.3 is a Superior Product to the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4..

I should not have been attacked because of those attacker's egos being bruised now that something better has come along. :cool:
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
As a new owner (4hours) I can say this:

I have light bleed)7 leds or whatever), but guess what, it only happens if you turn the screen down so dim its unusable, and have an almost solid white bar 1cm from the side. It doesnt do this if you have it at even a usable brightness in the dark, or if you are using any media. I can only see it in email, and thats only if i have it so dim i cant read it.

Not bright enough... At full brightness it hurts my eyes to look at white text on it, in a room with a 27" monitor and a 30 watt fluorescent light above. I havent tried it out side on a sunny day, but odds are it will suck like everything else.

Battery life... I derped on reddit, watch 600 megs of youtube, and did some heavy surfing, at 55% brightness. I was at 82% in 2 hours.

Screen quality. I cant see a pixel. I dont have the yellow screen, and with that "screen adjuster app" i can get the contrast so i am at least linear to 3-253, ill work on expanding it later, but i have great color and shadow detail. its not really blue or red like the various Ipads ive set side by side.

Also the thing as alot of extra android features that you normally dont get like tap to wake/sleep and the ability to change the battery percent and button arrangement. Though i did have to watch an online review to figure out i had to hold the home key to get to running apps...

Still If we are all paying retail; the gpad is half as fast as an ipad mini on single threads, and the 8.4pro is about double the gpad speed and 50% faster than the ipad mini. The only fault i can see with the 8.4 pro is that is a huge pixel count to deal with a Adreno 330. Thats the same problem the nexus 10 has, the display is at the gpu limit. And a 330 is only 10% faster than the chip in the 2012 nexus 10. Im wondering what the battery life is on the 8.4 pro, with all that horsepower, simular cpu/gpu (just higher clocked) and almost the same battery size.

And in the real world, no i dont see the 8.4pro as an alternative/fix for the gpad. Its at least 40-60% higher in price. Thats like saying my Kia Rio rides rough and has no power, so buy a optima instead.

However I am VERY excited that finally we have competition for the Ipad mini in the form of the 8.4 pro.

Now if we could only get some competition for the full size ipad we would be set, but so far all the high rez stuff for android is 18months old or older.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
Feel Free to say whatever is on your mind..

I just ask that you be Accurate in your Arguments.. :cool:

It's not June 5th 2014.. As of this writing, it's March 5th 2014.. and the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 has only been out a few weeks..

You can not compare the G-Pad's current discounted pricing.. And to be honest.. (it's discounted because of lack of interest).

Let's do some "Accurate" math here:

Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 = $399.00 When first released.

LG G-Pad 8.3 = $349.00 When first released.

That's a 12.53 percent difference in price when both were new.. :cool:

Give time for discounts to take effect for the Tab Pro 8.4.. and it's still Samsung.. It may sell so well, they won't have to discount it.

But you are correct in your statement that there is now a Worthy Android Device that trumps the iPad Retina Mini at every turn. :cool:
[G Pad 8.3 General] ccliang:
I hate the physical home button

I hate the physical home button :mad:

and...Sangsung is so ugly.....G pad is handsome:o
[G Pad 8.3 General] kdog350:
Would you agree that price is a major factor though?
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
Short Answer.. No.

This is not about YOUR BUDGET.. it's not about YOU.

That's why I started this thread... EVERYONE looked at my initial suggestion in a thread not as a viable solution to the issues of the G-Pad 8.3 but as a "Personal Insult" that.. gave premise to me suggesting THEIR purchase of the G-Pad 8.3 was the wrong thing to do. That.. I'm a converted Samsung Fanboy ( or working for Samsung..:D ) and I am now the Defector Promoting the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4..

Which if they had looked past their misplaced anger and understood the context of what I was saying, they may have comprehended it better.

Take a long look at the pic I posted..

And tell me that it not "Crystal Clear" which is the better screen.. if you care anything about the long term effects of eye strain I think the choice is obvious.. :cool:

The Samsung is better.. and when you get down to it.. So is the CPu / GPu.. Bottom Line:

It's a better machine.. If you or I cannot afford it or choose not to pay for the best so be it.

But don't hold price up and say the LG G-Pad 8.3 is a better tablet because right now it's CHEAPER to own.. That may be what YOUR wallet needs to hear..

But without question the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4 is the better tablet. :cool:
[G Pad 8.3 General] MarkLI88:
It really all depends on what you do with your tablet. I have the GPad 8.3 and could not be happier, I have no light bleed or blue line issues and am very happy with the screen but I don't do much with my tablet, I watch a few YouTube videos surf the web a bit and play a few simple games so for me the GTab fits my needs. Is the new Samsung better....sure spec wise it is and performance wise as well but the question is do you need those specs? For the money at its current price the GTab 8.3 is a great deal for a very good tablet.
[G Pad 8.3 General] spekesel:
Here in NL, I was comparing between the two, LG G Pad is 299 - the 50 euro cash back LG is offering right now. So 250. The Sammy is 389 (+/-). So, I thought, is it 139 euros better? Ignoring the fact I find hardware buttons lame and as nice as the screen undoubtedly is (I tried them both out in the Media Markt) I just felt for my use case (reading books, playing some games, some youtube) I couldn't justify the extra cost. Just seemed like a waste.

YMMV
[G Pad 8.3 General] detonation:
Not quite sure why a thread like this needs to even exist. Is the Samsung tab better? Clearly. But the price reflects that, and price is often the most important factor when buying a tablet. If both were only available at full retail, I would spend the extra $50 for the Samsung (actually I would probably not be buying either at those prices), but with the G Pad frequently available at $250 or less, it's a more economical buy for most people.

So yes, because it seems you just want people to say it, money aside the Samsung tab is easily the better tablet. But making the comparison without considering the price is pointless.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
I Know It's Hard...

To not inject our Personal Usage habits into our feelings... But that is not the Gist of this casual comparision.

That's why I mentioned in the OP.. "Excluding Price". Again the reason I started this thread was because of the attacks when I mentioned in couple of other threads that the Tab Pro 8.4 offers a "New Alternative" to putting up with the faults of the G-Pad 8.3..

I ask someone to tell me HOW the LG G-Pad 8.3 was *BETTER* than the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4

I Don't See It.

You can't argue CPu / GPu... and you certainly cannot argue Screen Resolution & Clarity.. As I've stated Samsung wins by a knockout.

It's the 8" Class Leader and our Strongest Representative to once and for all show Apple who's boss :cool:

You see.. I'm not a fanboy of either LG or Samsung. I'm a fan of ANDROID.. :cool: And for now.. Nothing in the 8" Class is Superior to the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4.

And... Can you even imagine.. When it's Stripped of it's 1.5 Gig Bulk (A.K.A. Touchwiz) and given a nice light 200 MB ROM like Mahdi.. Carbon.. Pac-Man... Slim...

And a Overclocking Kernel like Faux.. Franco.. or (my favorite) ElementalX ?... :cool:

That Tab Pro 8.4 running @ 2,400 - 2,500 mHz is going to FLY! And still have best in class Screen as Icing on the Cake..

It is what it is.. Don't forget I also own an 8.3.. running Mahdi it's doing fine.. but I'm not sticking my head in the sand and refusing to Acknowledge the New Class Leader in the Samsung Tab Pro 8.4.. If you are loyal to LG, then hope Samsung's accomplishment kicks LG in the butt come this fall and they respond with their Maximum Effort and use the best internals available next time around.
[G Pad 8.3 General] detonation:
So what are you trying to prove at this point? That the Samsung Tab Pro is the superior tablet? Because pretty much everyone in this thread has already admitted that.
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUq-qA2-2Ds

Its kinda funny, Other than the screen, its a spec race, aka 99% of people cant tell the difference between the 2 tablets when using them.

In the video, they have the the gpad set to a diff nits than the samsung, and both look like crap for color when you view the video on a calibrated display. The gpad is too dim and yellow, and the samsung is too blue and too over exposed. Its just a bad review to not have both tablets at the same brightness, and im pretty sure the video camera they used auto corrected the color because it thought the samsung was a florescent light.

yes the gpad is dim and yes the samsung is bright, but there is a massive overlap that the reviewer didnt use.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RaiderWill:
LG Is Slipping Fast.....

Man... :cool:

Really LG??? This is what you are coming to? Not Good. Not Good At All.. This is the STUPIDEST video I've ever seen to sell product. :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WohB8WDYCZ0
[G Pad 8.3 General] kdog350:
Wow, that has to be one of the most obnoxious videos that is selling a product. Absolutely terrible lol
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
lucky_goldstar!!!!!!!!!!!
[G Pad 8.3 General] manu1991:
Hi, I am looking to buy a 8" tablet next week and was pondering between these two. To be fair, I just need it for games, youtube and a few occasional games so the G Pad would suffice for me hardware wise, but I am concerned about the screen issues and the update support. Are the screen issues limited to a few batches or is it widespread? Also, will LG provide any future updates or will there be any development here?
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
The screen issues are:

yellow if its a really fresh unit that the bonding glue isnt completly cured. It normaly goes away in 24-48 hours of use.

blue line. Yea that sucks and needs rma'd

light bleed. it happens on all units, It happens when you turn the brightness down below 25%, which is so dim it makes the tablet unusable.

So far new batches havent had these problems with the yellow and blue line.

Mine is not yellow, a 311 serial. It does have the "light bleed" if i manualy turn down the brightness to 20%, and have an all white image for the first cm of the display. i cant see while viewing pictures or games.
[G Pad 8.3 General] ASW1:
Mine is fine.

I don't have any statistics for you, but one tends not to hear from people who have nothing to complain about.

A kitkat update seems to be on its way, but I wouldn't expect anything after that.
[G Pad 8.3 General] detonation:
Mine has no screen issues that I notice, though I rarely go below 50% brightness. Side by side with my Nook HD+ at the same brightness, the screen looks the same if not better. I'm sure the G Pad will eventually get KK (it's rolling out to the G2 now) but you could always root it and put CM on there. I wouldn't expect the Samsung Pro 8.4 to be that much better with updates though.

If you can get it for $250 or less, it's a better buy than the $400 Samsung tab, even if it technically is an inferior tablet (sorry gotta feed the troll OP of this thread so he doesn't have a fit again)
[G Pad 8.3 General] manu1991:
I am buying it from Hong Kong, G Pad is around 290 USD, Samsung is around 390 USD. Need to figure out if it is worth paying 100 USD extra for a slightly better0 screen, processor and camera.
[G Pad 8.3 General] nightanole:
Grass doesnt looke greener

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-tab-pro-12-10-8/help

Still you can at least root it.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2661198

No roms yet.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Mikegrmn:
I exchanged my lenovo yoga for the g pad.

I don't mind some imperfections, so the screen is ok for me. Some light bleeding if I go below 20% brightness.

I also have a note 3 and what really bothers me there is the physical home button. So I'm happy with my g pad, unless the Samsung slab would provide exceptional battery life. This is the point where the g pad really turns me off literally.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Moscow Desire:
Thread Closed

I see absolutely no point in this thread. Perhaps it's better suited for the main Off Topic thread.

May I remind that the General Forum, is for the following;

1. News about the Device

2. Features about the device

3. Updates or possible updates

4. Things about the device that does not fall in the Q & A or Development forums.

I won't argue some sensible things, but to compare a cheaper tab to a more expensive tab, then bring it up when the cheaper tab doesn't compare, well, it's pretty obvious.

I believe this same type thread has already been created before, and has generated complaints from users, so in this case;

Thread closed.

MD
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] fjsayyah:
Hi I have a Rooted Tmobile USA N3 - MI7 rooted via Root de la Vega, how do I update to stock 4.4.2? The OTA does not work obviously. Any ideas and using the stock recovery but did not work either. Ideally like to keep Knox at 0.

Thanks

JS
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] EasyE75:
Try with kies but you will loose root.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] fjsayyah:
How can you root back without tripping KNOX?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] djtheraven:
Not yet I'm sure in a couple of days a new method will appear to root. ...I updated with no problems through kies..I love the new changes but I hate not being able to customize anything. ...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] fjsayyah:
Thanks will give a try....
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] thatlaoboi:
Would Survival Mode in SuperSU work? Or will root still be lost?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] djtheraven:
Root is lost... The only way to root atm is to trip knox... Hopefully the de la vega method will be updated
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] klomann666:
does the xda neo support the wpa2 encryption?
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PJBP:
I tried to install cyanogenmode and I failed. Then I closed my phone accidently while I was installing the backup. Now I can't even open safetrap. What can I do? My computer cant recognize my phone either.
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aviwdoowks:
Get into ap fastboot. Then get matts 134 for a 926 to restore.
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PJBP:
How can I change matts? It says device is locked
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aviwdoowks:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2474393

I assume you have 926.
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PJBP:
I have a 910

edit I have tried the external reset but the motorola logo shows but the android logo doesn't...

https://motorola-mobility-en-hk.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/71984/action/auth
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aviwdoowks:
Facepalm

Go droid razr
[RAZR HD Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] PJBP:
lol sorry :laugh:
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ParaSense.:
How can i permantly disable dynamic fsync??? with a init d script or something... but DONT tell me any app plz :)
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrjraider:
Run Terminal Emulator in Root and Enter:

Disable:

Enable:

Setting/value will be lost after reboot..

Or:

1) By downloading and using Trickster MOD

2) By directly editing the file /sys/kernel/dyn_fsync/Dyn_fsync_active and setting 1 to enable the dynamic fsync, 0 to disable it (note that set value will be lost after a reboot/shutdown)
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ParaSense.:
ye i know that ways... ty anyway.. but if i make a init.d script with "echo 0 > /sys/kernel/dyn_fsync/Dyn_fsync_active"? or something with busybox?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S 4] DaveyDogg30:
So ive been desperately trying to get USB tethering to work on my Rooted S4 after the 4.3 update. I have the Tmobile SGH-M9191 - M919UVUEMK2, I downloaded and paid $1.95 for Wifi Tether Router and it works fine for Wifi but has no USB tether :( - I also have unlimited everything and 2.5 GB free tethering which isn't enough. Does anyone know of an app that has usb tethering that works on this phone? I'm willing to flash a ROM, pay for an app, whatever it takes. I get 15 mbps on wifi tether app, but on stock USB tether I get 35+ mbps. Also with usb tether the phone charges while being used. Ive been searching for so freaking long and can't find a solution.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] zenxaero:
Can interrupting cause your phone to go into a bootloop? How can I fix this?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Interrupting?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Chromium:
If you undervolt too much its possible. However I would recommend leaving the "Set on boot" option unchecked. That way if you undervolt too much and encounter issues, you can simply reboot to reset to default values.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GUGUITOMTG4:
Autocorrect interrupted his question:p