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[Asus Transformer TF700] zabolots:
What exactly is a "dirty" flash?

When somebody mentions a "dirty" flash, does that mean leaving the /data partition as is while a "clean" install is a virgin system with a reformatted /data partition?

I'm just wondering because I don't understand how an existing /data partition can cause issues with a new ROM being flashed to /system. If you manually installed all the same apps to a virgin system as what you had for your "dirty" install, wouldn't you end up with exactly what you had in /data for the "dirty" scenario?

Thanks...Scott
[Asus Transformer TF700] _that:
Remember that you don't have only apps in /data, you also have app data in /data - for user apps *and* for system apps.

Now if you reinstall exactly the same version of the same ROM (and with the same system apps), a "dirty" flash will always work. Also if you flash a ROM with only new versions of the same system apps, it should always work.

However if you install a ROM where one or more system apps are older than the version you had before, they won't be able to downgrade your app data and may get confused.

Since it's impossible to test and support all upgrade, downgrade, and sidegrade scenarios, ROM developers generally advise you to wipe data before installing their ROM. It's not always needed, but if you experience problems with a "dirty" flash, be prepared to either wipe data, or to analyze the logcat from your boot loop or app crash and delete the failing apps' data manually. :)
[Asus Transformer TF700] bradslinux:
For being a ROM, I sure do write to mine an awful lot.:p
[Asus Transformer TF700] tiernan22:
.... but there is an "m" and an "e."
[Asus Transformer TF700] deathgod1:
Anyone experiencing unusually high battery usage with Nova launcher? I notice with R1 it can be higher than the screen usuage 35% vs 34%. I don't remember it ever using that much battery before.
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
Why would you suspect Nova launcher, I have never had a problem like that with Nova launcher...
[Asus Transformer TF700] deathgod1:
What do you mean? In battery usage stats it shows Nova launcher having with those high percentages now, when it never used to before. If someone else where experiencing it, it could be a bug in this latest version of the Rom.

[IMG="Nova High Battery usage"][/IMG]
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
Maybe something hung during that 9 hour window. That dip in the chart looks odd.

I'm a nova user (and MX player, BTW), and my heavy hitter is consistently Screen. Everything else is 4% usage or less, and Nova does not even show up for me (less than 2%).
[Asus Transformer TF700] Soccerdad91016:
ART vs Dalvik Runtime

Curious to know what others have experienced when running with ART instead of Dalvik runtime.

With the latest build (R1 with the patch) I switched to ART and the lag was unbearable. Often times applications would just hang and I'd get the dreaded "wait, report, OK" dialog.

I thought perhaps it would be only the first time running an app, but that was not the case. And it was not just apps, the overall ROM was consistently sluggish to the point of being unusable.

I switched back to Dalvik and everything is working much smoother.

Anyone else experience anything similar? Are there some applications that don't play well with ART? I'm not running Xposed Framework though I am running Cydia Substrate, as I need to run rootcloak for reasons :)

Just curious.
[Asus Transformer TF700] deathgod1:
That 9 hour window was when was it was asleep in the dock. I thought it might've been because of the dock, so I took it and rebooted but I'm still getting the same numbers. Also, for some reason my flash player isn't working. I open dolphin and it tells me I need to dl flash. I do that and install, but it says there's a previous installation with a different signature. I check and yup flash player is already installed in what I assume is a system app. I dunno, guess I'll have to do a clean install once sbdags releases his next version of this ROM.
[Asus Transformer TF700] StuTripleV:
Long boot up every time?

HI all, I am new here but just flashed yesterday and am loving the upgrade over stock! However, each and every time I reboot it is taking over four minutes to finish (4:14 on the last one). Is this a known issue from the 9-21-14 release or could I have a setting issue I missed? I used all defaults in the ROM install except I went with one step down in screen resolution, and disabled journaling and fsync...

Not a huge deal but I thought I would check if anyone else has the issue?

Thanks so much!
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
Liking the new look of the forums. Didn't see that listed in the R1 features. :silly:
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Welcome to the club.

You did a clean install? I assume you had something other than CROMBI-KK installed.

My boot time power button to lock screen is 65 seconds.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Luthiensdad:
clean install query

Hello, currently running Cromi-x on internal & Crombi-kk on external. The external rom is corrupted & will not boot. I want to install R1 on internal (& eventually Zombi external), with F2FS /data partition. I have TWRP 2.8.0.1 & microsd has three partitions, the latter two currently formatted ext4.

In order to do a cleanish install, I would boot to recovery &, after doing Factory Reset under wipe tab, then select advanced wipe, check 'Data' box and then select "Repair or Change File System" where F2FS is my new choice of file system for that partition. Then flash Crombi R1 normally through Aroma installer. Is that more or less accurate?
[Asus Transformer TF700] jp071848:
Somewhat similar situation here. I dirty flashed R1 over a perfectly running RC3, and all seemed to go fine. When I then went into Developer Options and switched over from Dalvik to ART, she hung up completely on the re-boot and stuck at the boot animation. I did NOT flash the patch. Restoring the RC3 brought me back to life, fortunately

I think I'll stick with RC3 until things settle down a bit. Super ROM, overall I'm very glad I made the switch from CM11
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
For installing R1 to internal, yes you got it. But you don't need to wipe /data before you format it to f2fs. Formatting will take care of everything residing on that partition. ;)

AndI hope you wipe cache and Dalvik with each installation anyway, right?

Don't forget to nandroid your current CROMi-X installation.
[Asus Transformer TF700] acraigl:
I'm pretty sure when you switch to ART, you need to wipe cache in recovery. That said, I've been pretty stable with R1 and the patch. I flashed them simultaneously so I didn't have to worry about it crashing in the interim.
[Asus Transformer TF700] StuTripleV:
Yes, clean install. This was my first custom flash, came from stock ROM, but followed install instructions to the T using fastboot with PC, etc and had no issues. Should I try dirty flash reinstall, or is a another wipe/clean install only fix? 65 sec would be fabulous.
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Mhh, strange. What's your bootloader version?
[Asus Transformer TF700] masterili:
I had the same behavior till I converted the internal DATA partition to F2FS. Now I have original CROMBi-kk-R1 without FIX, ART, F2FS and the tablet is smooth as it was never before. My best score in Quadrant is 9880.

The installation was "Autoinstall with best settings by

sbdags

".

Many thanks for the great job from me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] toolmanz:
Almost the same here - But I have been running ART for couple of days and no problems (I did have a SOD but reboot fixed) so far. BL 14.10, RC1 F2S internal (Dalvik) Fsync off; ROM2SD, F2S external, ART, patched, Fsync off.
[Asus Transformer TF700] StuTripleV:
I'm guessing you mean the TWRP version? openrecovery-twrp-2.8.0.1-tf700t.blob
[Asus Transformer TF700] yaqb:
No he means BOOTLOADER VERSION i.e. 10.6.1.14.10

Settings > about> BOOTLOADER VERSION
[Asus Transformer TF700] StuTripleV:
Ok, no such option under my Settings/About tablet, but I got it from the boot screen: 10.6.1.14.10-20130601
[Asus Transformer TF700] Soccerdad91016:
Interesting, I have my /data running on an external card also formatted as f2fs. My internal /data is also f2fs, but it's not being used.

So the only difference I can see would be internal vs. external, which doesn't quite make sense since external should be slightly faster.

If I'm bored this weekend I might try it on the internal /data partition.

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Really?!, consider me jealous. I did a clean install of R1 (external /data formatted as f2fs) and I'm in the same boat as the OP with 4 - 5 minute boot times.

Curious what settings you used during install.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Unidave199:
My story echos yours. Switched to ART after a clean install and men marks went up to 8500 and was great but the next morning was super lag and freezes so bad I went back to my backup of RC2 and did a upgrade to the R1 and stay on Divalk. I'm back down o a benchmark of 5600 but at least no lags or locks or freezes. Is switching internal to F2Fs that big a difference? And how does one format the internal memory to f2f?

Sent from my Sprint Note 3 via Xparent Skyblue Talptalk 2 ...thanks to Josh's KitKat Killer 4.0!!!

Tablet: Hisense Sero 7 Pro with the dopa 4.4.2 ROM

and still rockin my

EVO Supersonic with the JellyBeats Media ROM!
[Asus Transformer TF700] Soccerdad91016:
I have still not decided if I can see much of a difference between f2fs and ext4. In theory f2fs should be faster, but there a lot of variables when migrating to a new ROM.

As to how, I am using TWRP 2.7.1.1 which gives you the option to change the file system to f2fs
[Asus Transformer TF700] toolmanz:
I have now converted internal to ART and applied the patch. Both internal and ROM2SD are working no problem. I should buy a lottery ticket :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] berndblb:
Nothing unusual... Internal installation, data is f2fs, sbdags modded stock kernel (second option), fsync off, both GPU options checked. Just tested it 3x, the longest boot time from off to lock screen was 1:25.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sparksd:
What is your storage configuration - how much internal memory (32GB or 64GB), memory card, etc? Do you have a lot of apps installed? I've never had a good handle on the degree to which these affect startup time on this tablet.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Official R1 Patch updated to 2nd post. If you have no freezing issues you do not need this.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lj50036:
Hey all lj here can someone on patch 2 post a copy of their build.prop for me plz.... :D

Thx Josh
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Okay, another satisfied user. I updated (clean install) via TWRP 8.01 to Crombi-KK R1, no patch used. So far, so good. And seems snappier as well. I went almost completely with sbag's default settings.

My TF700 is a 32g model. I have no external micro-SD card installed (I do use a normal-sized SD in my dock, but that has no bearing on anything).

Load time is quick. No lags... and no crashes yet.

Blessings and thanks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] toolmanz:
Attached. Internal I think. ART, BL 14.10, F2S.

Renamed to .doc to allow the upload. Hope it works. Newbie here for uploading.
[Asus Transformer TF700] drewski_1:
CROMBi-kk R1-Patch2, Rom2SD, 32GB Internal, 64GB Samsung class 10 48MB/s SD, ~150 apps

- 2:40 boot from off to lockscreen

ZOMBi-kk B7, Internal, 32GB Internal, SD Card out to boot, ~150 apps (same set-up)

- 2:30 boot from off to lockscreen

i'm jealous of the 1:25 boot [MENTION=4968172]berndblb[/MENTION] has :crying:

of course, it's not my most used tab.

- N10 - 27 seconds

- N7 - 50 seconds

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give me 2:40 ;)

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Looks like some already posted, one ?
[Asus Transformer TF700] srjgrg1:
Is there a way to enable 360 screen rotation.
[Asus Transformer TF700] yaqb:
Settings >display>rotation>rotation modes
[Asus Transformer TF700] srjgrg1:
Thanks that worked for me. Im having a problem on touch screen as well sometimes the touch screen doesn't work on some part of the screen. can you help me out. Thanks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Just another brief note to say THANK YOU to all the developers of Crombi-KK. The R1 version is amazingly snappy on my TF700, most noticeable on loading programs and opening and closing windows. It also seems very stable here, moreso for me than the previous version. And again, this is without the patch.

Re Google Playstore apparently hanging for some folks... it has done that to me on and off since I got my TF700, esp. when trying to install large apps such as QuickOffice and the like. But I found out the "hang" for me wasn't actual. That is, if I went to the status bar's download / install and clicked on the apparently hung installation, it opened up in Playstore and the install was in fact complete. I don't know if that's any help at all but there it is in case.
[Asus Transformer TF700] yaqb:
I had similar issues with play store and patch 2 sorted this out ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tinkerman61:
I just updated my TF700 from CROMBI-X to CROMBI-KK-RC3 running the default install on internal and using Apex launcher. In Settings/Device/Buttons, I enabled the long press action of the menu button to bring up the Recent apps switcher, however when I long press the menu button, nothing happens. Is there a way to make this work?

I also noticed that you cannot boot to the Bootloader or Recovery from the reboot menu anymore.

Read tip#2 in the OP for the reboot menu. DUH.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Go to developer settings and turn on advanced reboot menu ;)

Oh and btw you should use R1 now ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] tinkerman61:
Was waiting on R1 until the bugs got worked out on the patches. :D

After flashing R1, do I then flash patch 2, or do I need to flash patch 1 first?

Thanks!
[Asus Transformer TF700] drewski_1:
Just patch 2
[Asus Transformer TF700] shonkin:
Just so people don't get confused, at this point there is no "patch 1" vs "patch 2" -- the only patch is the one mentioned in the first or second post for download. Right? It is labeled patch 1 even if it was in fact an edited version of the first patch. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Patch 1 is different to patch 2

Patch 1 reverts you to RC3 tweaks.

Patch 2 builds on that base to give better speed and smoothness.

You only need to flash patch 2

;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] annefan:
Formatting the external data partition

Hello,

I'm running with data2sd and rom2sd, and I want to start from scratch.

The external SD card is already partitioned, and I want to format the external data partition.

When formatting "/data" from TWRP it seems to format the internal one (I guess the symbolic links are not there yet).

Is there a way to format the data partition from the device?

Thanks.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Flash data2sd1.zip or rom2sd1.zip first (links are in the download tab) to point recovery to external data first.
[Asus Transformer TF700] snoopygum:
I seem to have lost the ability to turn off the dock's touch pad with R1 using the keyboard button on the dock. Here's my config:

TF700T with physical keyboard dock

R1 with patch 2

Data2SD

F2FS

I've even tried a clean install with full advanced wipe. Makes no difference.

Strangely, when I install to internal memory instead of Data2SD, I can disable the touch pad using the keyboard button on the dock just fine.
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
Which kernel?
[Asus Transformer TF700] snoopygum:
_that kernel
[Asus Transformer TF700] drewski_1:
Is my dock dead?

I haven't used it in a month and docked to write a longer email. The tablet froze and then rebooted when i undocked.

The tablet won't boot when docked either. Freezes on the penguins screen. Boot will start s soon as i undocked.

I tried it after reboot and it froze again, but, again, started responding again when undocked.

This happens on both Crombi-kk and Zombi . The dock is fully charged based on the LED on the side.

I think I got a logcat in Crombi-kk. Can't figure out how to attach in Tapatalk.

edit: added logcat file.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mackis:
The only thing i did was disable journaling, fsync off to test how high this goes, on internal i run Chromi-X 5.4. Rom2SD install, Just the first of the GPU choices in the install i think it is the force gpu to render 2D. I haven't touched anything else. Then it's the microSD, the UHS 1 card you use is it a class 10 card? If not consider to get one.

I think we could get this rom beyond 10000 with Hunds kernel if it goes up to 1850mhz. Gonna try that tomorrow.

//Mackis
[Asus Transformer TF700] woodsonmh:
I didnt notice play was missing until after trying art. I went back to dalvick and had trouble getting play to install. Old jb backups wouldnt install although i didnt try dropping them in /system/app/. I tried running gapps downloaded from forum the gapps i hsed on first install. Got an error when run from twrp . I downloaded kk gapps from cm site and it installed fine. Have not tried art again.

Woody
[Asus Transformer TF700] TheArtfulPenguin:
I've just getting caught up and for me on the dock the, settings, Play/pause/last/next, Touchpad enable/disable, and auto brightness don't work. Worked before this version. The bright up/down, wifi, bluetooth do work for me.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mackis:
Dalvik is a realtime compiler

ART precompiles code to OATS

Both use the same folders to store things in, Dalvik and Cache and are not compatible to one another.

So by just dropping old apps in won't make them work, they haveto be precompiled by ART and that is done during boot. But you end up with something more similar to windows programs .Exe. This saves alot of cpu time thus higher scores for us.

The kk gapps provided by Sbdags must be run in the right order.

I think it was the 2014-03-08 edition that needed the rom2sd1.zip to be run before the gapps to point to the external sd. If you run 2014-03-09 rom and don't install the gapps directly after you get an error and have to reflash the rom again, or apply the rom2sd1.zip so you get the right pointers.

This is how i understand it to work, Sbdags is this correct?

//Mackis
[Asus Transformer TF700] johnlgalt:
Correct - I learned the same thing, you cannot flash the current GApps-kk package independently of the ROM - if you forget to do it with the ROM or it fails after the ROM installs, you have to flash both again.

Also, Woody, FWIW - I have play (and most other Google Apps) working perfectly fine in my tab with ART enabled.

So, go back and reflash the ROM and daisy chain the GApps-KK to flash right after.

Of course, if it still fails, then you may need to re-download the package(s).
[Asus Transformer TF700] pmgnet:
Would be nice to get to cherry pick, huh? Pick your runtime per app...
[Asus Transformer TF700] Adso3000:
9598! What are you doing right that I'm obviously doing wrong?

I'm "only" getting around 8300 on Perfermance, _thatsOC 1800MHz, ART, Rom2SD and Sandisk Ultra UHS-1 class 10 card (mounted with Rom2SD1.zip and erased using the "install new ROM" setting in CWM 6.0.4.6 Philz). Considered erasing it with GParted but laptop was not available at the time. Just realized I haven't cold booted since installation, that can't hurt so I'll do that now.

EDIT: You posted in the mean time while I was doing something else. My settings are the same, except I chose both GPU tweaks. Just actually noticed your signature (doh!). If you're getting that high with regular _thats kernel, not even the overclocked one (if I'm understanding you right) that would be amazing.

Do you, or anyone else, happen to know if fstrim app is useful/compatible with this new ART thing? It has screwed up something for me in the past (it was on mini-CromiX or CMB, don't remember, but was always fine on regular Cromi). Is it now obsolete because it's somehow integrated into KitKat? I did search this, but couldn't find anything (though if you asked my wife, she'd say that's as certain to happen as hearing Amen in church) :silly:

Just one more thing: can dalvik based CromiX 4.3 backups made with Titanium be restored on 4.4 ART Cromi-KK? Is it just a matter of booting afterwards? When installing this ROM, should I choose ART immediately before it starts installing anything (auto-update & auto-restore) or does it not really matter?

Hope I'm not being too much of an inconvenience .
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mackis:
I run stock CROMB-KK only did journaling off and fsync off to test how high it would go. The last thing i did was force gpu to render 2d.

You cant have both its one or the other dalvik or art. If some app forcecloses you could go back to dalvik to,run that app and then back again to art. That is possible but you me be need to wipe,dalvik and cache in between though.

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Fstrim worked well under cromi but i think its obsolete with kikat just becuse its built in.

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You could restore apps, if the app is built with ART support it would need a reboot after so the OAT file could be generated. Try and see
[Asus Transformer TF700] LetMeKnow:
discard/TRIM!

[MENTION=4386025]Adso3000[/MENTION] and [MENTION=4833381]Mackis[/MENTION]

How about using "discard" mounting option from _that's kernel for fsTRIM...:D
[Asus Transformer TF700] Mackis:
Why use it at all if its built in and done by the os by default?

That was needed when linux kernels had support for it but didn't use the trim funktion by default.
[Asus Transformer TF700] Adso3000:
Wow, this is pretty high tech for a non-linux guy like me. Never even had a non-Windows computer other than my Amiga 600 :silly:

Just wanted to ask you if you're using regular _that's kernel or OC and if you used a freshly partitioned (in GParted) card. I have normally used GParted, but thought a recovery erase would do, but that's slightly more complicated by that whole ROM2SD thing.

Also how long after flashing you did the benchmark. I know about the "leave it alone for 10 min" thing, but whether booting a few times or maybe even a cold boot would do something because of the ART thing, I don't yet know. I think I really need to find and listen to that All about Android podcast about ART again I listened to months ago and this time not do it while changing to winter tires. :D
[Asus Transformer TF700] lmmohr4:
Sleep?

Nah...you two don't really sleep, do you?
[Asus Transformer TF700] guliver365:
Finally I got it above 9000 after reinstalling and few reboot, something happened in the governor and the CPU went above the 1500 mark,

but now I got a question for sbdags since now I am getting the penguins at boot with 15 lines of text below, I believe I need to reinstall but I am scare to be stuck again with the CPU.
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
Nothing to clear up, I wasn't complaining or thinking any of that stuff anyways. I'm happy with kk, x,y or z. ☺
[Asus Transformer TF700] sbdags:
The penguins and 15 lines are normal ;) It's _that's preinit script running and I added a bit oif a debugging output so I could see what was going on. ;)
[Asus Transformer TF700] loner.:
I have noticed after flashing the kk ROM and waiting the 10 minutes that it does better after another reboot, or sometimes I shut it down for 30 minutes then it seems more stable. I see apps putting out updates for Kit Kat a lot so I'm guessing that those programmers are have some issues trying to get their apps to run right in KK.
[Asus Transformer TF700] lartomar2002:
If anyone finds a substitute working app for any of the non working apps when using ART could you please post it?

Also, if we want to restore CROMDi-X from a nanroid backup do we need to do anything special to prepare for it? Not that I plan to anytime soon.:cyclops: