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[Xperia Z2 General] y300owner:
I recently started using the mobile for a wedding function. I'm being a little anxious what to blame. First, is note 3 rear camera better? Because from the result I've seen realife it seems to be.

The real reason why I'm making this post is when taking a pictute at night buts in wedding, so many bright lights everywhere the camera makes the bright light source a huge "blob" which brightens everything. It gives a white wash. The colors seem be gone. Only way I think I've been able to fix it is using snap seed and lowering the tons part of the photos and fixing the contrast. Anyone having the same issue?

Sent from my K00U
[Xperia Z2 General] zodiac100:
Yeah since 4.4.4 update Sony changed the metering mechanism somewhat and so it's a lot more sensitive to light. As a result light sources get blown out even much more than before and there's more edge clipping. It also affects daylight shots although to a lesser extent.

The only way improve this is to use manual mode and lower the iso and/or exposure.

It's strange because they released an update for the z3 I believe around December which brought back the old metering but have left the z2 with this issue. Typical Sony isn't it.

4.4.4 might have brought with it sharper photos but the metering is total crap and it makes auto mode and settings even more hapless in lowlight and night time!
[Xperia Z2 General] minnaing:
Taken with 5.0.2 Android L
[Xperia Z2 General] Brontok:
is this some sort of a chicken ? :) whats that hue on the bottom ?
[Xperia Z2 General] y300owner:
I see. I had to take photos in manual mode. The photos in superior auto were really bad at night. The bloom was annoying as well.

Also you know the front camera, even with the soft mode beautification mode off, it was still doing it. Any idea why it was doing it?

Sent from my K00U
[Xperia Z2 General] zodiac100:
Like I said, it's the metering mechanism. It just doesn't expose light sources very well. It got much worse after 4.4.4 and I'm hoping Sony brings back the old mechanism we had.

It's the same I guess with the front cam but without manual controls there isn't much to be done to improve those.

The rear cam you can either reduce exposure or iso. I'd say start with iso because in general the lower that value the less noise you get in the photo
[Xperia Z2 General] minnaing:
This call Pheasant Bird.

Hue line due to CAGE line , i taken this photo in zoo. :)
[Xperia Z2 General] idiarik1234:
Here's mine. ?
[Xperia Z2 General] :
Some Pics
[Xperia Z2 General] adryanosss:
New shots :D
[Xperia Z2 General] Gitaroo:
Is it just me or 5.02 is worse than 4.4.4.
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
It's because of the light. The day was cloudy and a little variation in light suppose a high difference in the pictures... But the processing is the same, trust me.
[Xperia Z2 General] hasona:
I just got a QX30 three days ago(review/impressions to follow) and I got to say that the difference between the algorithms that Sony use coupled with better optics makes this comparison incredibly onesided.

[IMG="Comparison"]https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7723/17095183260_541f016397_o.png[/IMG]
[Xperia Z2 General] saedted:
Picture of a billboard - superior auto
[Xperia Z2 General] itsjustJOH:
Also consider much better optics on the QX30 and, if I'm not mistaken, it's own ISP.
[Xperia Z2 General] hasona:
Yeah, I still think the Z2 faired good. It was in a challenging place with semi-bad lightning.
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
It's obvious that Z2 has a camera and algorithms for all kinds of average consumer usage.

QX30 is rather for geeks so it works differently in this regard.

I have a QX10 and it also works well.. And has a different algorithm to Z2.

Sometimes I prefer those lens...
[Xperia Z2 General] Sunrise7:
Just some random photos I took using my Xperia Z2,4.4.4 :)

Superior auto/manual + HDR

imgur . com/a/jdYcE
[Xperia Z2 General] rychlin:
Photos made on LP 5.0.2 STOCK
[Xperia Z2 General] NetSkill:
Manual 20.7mp, iso 100
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Krakow 1 by doministry, on Flickr

Krakow 2 by doministry, on Flickr
[Xperia Z2 General] Luc.Nex:
Anyone knows why when we try to control iso in cm12.1/aosp based roms the viewfinder gets laggy?
[Xperia Z2 General] Ziendal:
Hey, I like to know with mode and software you used for this photos.
[Xperia Z2 General] zxspectrun:
Take it and edited by me XD
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
camera 2 app good photo :) ???

Xperia Z2 ™
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Software - stock camera. Always!

Mode: full Manual 20mpx, as I remember: tap-to-focus (focusing on the place touched on the screen),

Daylight, Auto ISO, Exposure O, light metering central.

Filters applied: Pixlr (Always). In this case probably 2 different ones.

Usually it takes 2 or 3 shots to make it good.

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Krakow 3 by doministry, on Flickr

Krakow 2 by doministry, on Flickr
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Xperia Z2 ™
[Xperia Z2 General] cnsngr:
İ took them with manuel mod id be happy to hear any tips
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
View fisheye by doministry, on Flickr

Scissors macro lens by doministry, on Flickr

The Club widelens by doministry, on Flickr
[Xperia Z2 General] cnsngr:
Manuel mod and no filter
[Xperia Z2 General] eyeyousee:
Wow very nice photography in a very beautiful place! :good:
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Thanks!!
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
Quick Comaprison

I just came across that in Superior Auto mode or even manual mode that Sony's camera is having trouble processing red, green, and other colours.

So it happened when I checked the camera with my friends iPhone and I know most of us try to tweak it but Most of other people use SA since they are too lazy to tweak it.

So I have this Point and Shooter from Sony (Sony DSC-WX150), which is really a great camera. I went and decided do a small comparison between these two in SA.

Yea you may all say how stupid WX-150 has a huge sensor and all, but all other Companies Such as Samsung, Apple using similar sensor do a better job than Sony because they write better software.

but still I am trying to point out here that Sony should learn how to make the software algorithm from their Camera department cause I think they camera module they're using isn't the problem. :confused:

https://flic.kr/s/aHskfSnPo2

If I get time I'll try to compare iPhone 6, Z2, WX150 as well.
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Hi everyone,i am new on forum.I have Z2 almoust a year and i love him,certainly my precoius cell.

I took a lot of pictues with Z2 since 4.4.2 until now that I have PureX Black lolippop rom and I can say that a camera is way better with lolipop,especially in full resolution.I use camera most in 15,5 mpx wide format and i would post some pictures.The only thing that pisses me of in Z2 camera is cold white balance,but never mind :) Cheers!
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Here some photos that I took yestrday in 15,5 mpx wide.Pretty good quality hm? :)
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Here one macro with a little zoom
[Xperia Z2 General] gazza35:
Please delete
[Xperia Z2 General] idiarik1234:
Here's mine :)
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
[MENTION=6313918]idiarik1234[/MENTION] cute catty :)

Sent From Galaxy S5 Plus With Tapatalk
[Xperia Z2 General] idiarik1234:
Thanks. :))
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Nice flowers.

Here is two mine latest

https://flic.kr/p/vYKMr5 https://flic.kr/p/vjwfEz

Послато са D6503 уз помоћ Тапатока
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Sunrise today

Xperia Z2 by allek84, on Flickr
[Xperia Z2 General] MTechRD:
Wao excellent pics guys
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Thanks :)

Here few picures taken with 5.1.1
[Xperia Z2 General] sh4d1t0:
Nice!, it's better tan before :good:
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Thanks man.,I aprociate that :)
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
5.1.1 hdr mod on

any efeckt manuel mod . 8 mpx. good good photo?? My spider ;)

Xperia Z2 ™

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Xperia Z2 ™

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Xperia Z2 ™
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Here is one night picture in 8 mpx wide :)
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Hey guys,I update my Z2 to 5.1.1 UK customized and I did test photo.Its full 15,5 mpx. :)

How you like quality? :)
[Xperia Z2 General] sh4d1t0:
I like more the new quality!.. I can't wait for Android plus kernel 5.1.1

Enviado desde mi D6503 mediante Tapatalk
[Xperia Z2 General] jaffa1980:
Loving the new 5.1.1 camera, sorted out the over exposure and focus is much faster! Titan the robot!
[Xperia Z2 General] dericky:
I like the quality Of the cam, but sometimes the pictures a little bit milky
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Here is one from yesterday,night ISO 100

One from today,full 15,5 mpx
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Here is two from this morning

;)
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Some sky
[Xperia Z2 General] jamesbdx:
Here's a few from Italy. Pretty good in my opinion, mostly manual settings
[Xperia Z2 General] spuri78:
Awesome pics indeed. Please share your manual settings.
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
The sculpture one is not sharp actually.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbTOSevlow
[Xperia Z2 General] bonkel:
Some pics from my trip to paris

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1TUFzd-sTrwcXhNakVlZWoyZkk/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1TUFzd-sTrwWnhJY1RzQl9CdlU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1TUFzd-sTrwaXZrcWRITU95dlU/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1TUFzd-sTrwQy1mMzhGMndtVU0/view?usp=sharing

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B1TUFzd-sTrwTjMxdzU1ZTlNOTA/view?usp=sharing
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
But will Sony Phone's will come to this stage? This quality, man I never liked Samsung phones but S6 really did convince me.

[YOUTUBE]yev8Ip9BEK4[/YOUTUBE]
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
But it IS there.

Z3 has outstanding camera, both video and photo.

It is one of the highest ranks in Dxo mark.

BTW the same guy - I like the fact he compares devices - made a great comparison between Z2 and Canon profi camera where Sony excelled in Video comparison.

So don't worry.

BTW check my Flickr shots, all made by Z2.
[Xperia Z2 General] tOrNadO™:
Samsung's post processing makes the pictures more attractive but unnatural. Atleast that's the case in most of the pictures, for ex pictures which are taken indoors and in low light. They're always oversaturated but they have good vibrant colors(Just like their display). You can take a picture on your z2 and transfer it to a samsung device(say S6) and see how good those pictures look.. My old Xperia S produced better results in daylight than most of the mid range 16mp cameras available. Although with 5.1.1, Z2 has shown its true potential. Pictures are way better, focusses better and i see far less noise than before even when i zoom..
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
That's what I was talking about

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAbTOSevlow
[Xperia Z2 General] jmwreck:
Hi Allek84, a little bit of OT, are you using this ROM? if so, did you notice or experience a faster drain on your battery? if not, what 5.1.1 are you using? Thanks
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Capital City by doministry, on Flickr
[Xperia Z2 General] heyumf:
is there anyway to adjust the iso setting in z2?

shutter speed etc

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[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
Use manual settings for the ISO.Shutter speed can't be changed.
[Xperia Z2 General] beni8978:
Shutter speed can be changed via Zadascamera mod for Z2. Google it
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
What's Zadascamera? Never heard of it :d Wanna try that out.

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Edited with Snapseed.

DSC_0155-01 by Manchanayake Chaturanga, on Flickr
[Xperia Z2 General] dakunclear:
Both have had minor adjustments in snapseed
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Ldz 2 by doministry, on Flickr

Warsaw by doministry, on Flickr

Warsaw by doministry, on Flickr
[Xperia Z2 General] rychlin:
Odesláno z mého D6503 pomocí Tapatalk
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Good photos folks,keep going

Here some mine from this summer

and one video atr full hd

Cheers ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Here one photo with Negative effect in MX Camera app :)
[Xperia Z2 General] nexuspur:
havent you guys a problem with noise in the pictures? i am experiencing this whether im on stock or cm based roms.
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
In auto mode yes

But in manual mode i typically like to push my phone even if the photo ends up being somewhat dim

(thats a No for manual)
[Xperia Z2 General] vegetaleb:
Well M8 photos are better than iphone 5s (from the many professional reviews in the internet), though the limited 4mp is a bad limit for crop lovers.

The 20mp of the Z2 has a huge potential but Sony doesn't seem to find a good camera firmware to really get its true potential, I wonder if devs for Z1 made mods for the camera,specially jpeg compression...?
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
Can you provide a link for those M8 / 5S comparisons please?
[Xperia Z2 General] randomuseresato:
He seems to be a little deluded. The comparisons with the 5S show how the M8 is inferior to 5S in almost every way and not the other way around as he mentioned.

http://bgr.com/2014/04/01/htc-one-m8-vs-iphone-5s-camera-photography/
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Wow....if you look at the "a massive camera shootout" images , its clear to see even the Iphone 5s is better than the M8 in almost image...:eek:
[Xperia Z2 General] hamdir:
he meant this:

http://www.imore.com/htc-one-m8-vs-iphone-5s-camera-comparison

image size aside, the M8 is a match to the iPhone 5s title of "best color calibration" and even beats it in white balance, also notice on distant trees the M8 benefits from its big pixel and hence per pixel detail is good, tree branches don't get muddied, in fact it's miracle for a 4MP sensor to keep up this well, HTC is getting more from less

i5s on the left, M8 on the right

such color range wasn't even there last year on most Android phones

Z2 is the winner in terms of IQ i believe, especially the incredible dynamic range (noticable in light flares)

but you can't use it's photos at 1:1 since it's noisy, still noisy detail is much better than smudging detail like Z1, G2 and SGS5, so it's a good decision by Sony, when it's photo gets down sized it benefits from super sampling and becomes a much cleaner and even more impressive result

however i have no idea about the software capabilites of the Z2, Z1 and Z1 compact were pretty bad last year, slow shutter etc, the M7 had the best camera usability last year on Android due to shutter/focus speed and night seeing powers

more on the M8 camera in my collective post here:

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51415071&postcount=8428

I personally believe the Z2 has the best camera IQ so far

oh and BGR are idiots, the whole world knows that
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Well it's personal preference & opinion, everything is relative.

Everyone has different eyes & see's more or less colour, light , detail, exposure, noise etc....I personally do not like iphones, however I like the images from the iphone 5s in these examples better than that of the M8...but that's just my preference.

If you want more detail & resolution then you would need the higher megpixel, but I'm not going to take the images off a mobile phone to use and crop & print out...but will just use them for just for social media & fun shots.

But for me overall The Z2 is the way to go...for me..;)
[Xperia Z2 General] hamdir:
relative is a key word here

here in XDA, its not a place for bashing or lols, its a place for constructive observations, discussion and solutions, so let's be careful with whatever the press tries to feed us (general comment)

from the images i have downloaded coming from the Z2 i would easily hand it the best camera title, the SGS5 samples are an utter joke at 1:1 and in low light it still cant touch the M8, all this ISOCELL talk doesn't seem to be doing anything (for now)

HOWEVER i am really curious to know about the Z2 camera shutter speed and usability in all conditions, the area were the M7 ruled last year, many owners of the Z1/Z1 compact complained to me about it's uselessness in indoor and low light

If sony matches the M7 in that usability for the Z2, i would easily recommend it as the best Android shooter to anyone

M8 lovers wanting zoom can still buy the Sony QX10 or QX100 ;)

great color range:

and here is an example of the pixel smudging hell coming from the M7/M8 Korean competitors
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Relative is a word that came from me and I certainly dont give a **** about the press, I'm NOT swayed by anything apart from cold hard facts & what I see with my own eyes , personal preference is the key...for me.

My personal prefernce for serious photo taking is my DSLR & I use my mobile for social media and fun & reference images, but that's just for me.

Im not going to get into the technicalities of photo taking with a mobile camera, I'm not interested in discussing that....but hey you can...it's very interesting.

NO bashing or loling came from me, XDA is also about opinions and I'm sure you respect mine as I do yours.
[Xperia Z2 General] hamdir:
i was highlighting your word ofcourse and no the offending part was never intended at you ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] g4rvd4:
I'm the same. For serious photo work I exclusively use my DSLR even though I have to lug around my bunch of lenses, and I only use my phone to click selfies or other fun pics. :silly:

But hey, to each his own! :highfive:
[Xperia Z2 General] JMonkeYJ:
This is one of the key questions to me. As many have said, if you're going for a great picture you will use a dedicated camera. Cameras on our phones are mostly used for fun/spur-of-the-moment pictures. For that reason, a fast shutter speed and ability to capture motion well, especially indoors, are critical on a phone camera. I am very curious to see how the Z2 performs in those situations.
[Xperia Z2 General] hamdir:
Too bad idiots like phone arena and GSM are completely neglecting this key fact, HTC was the first to introduce the super fast shutter concept way before anyone even thought about it (remember the One X presentation where they explained how important it is to launch the camera and capture the moment in fraction of the time) and they went further by giving you indoor, low light and even darkness with the M7

Anyway I admit this time the second camera isn't really this big of a deal but it opened the door for dual cam compute mobile photography in the future
[Xperia Z2 General] gavinfabl:
With all cameras, it is the trickier conditions that can decide whether its any good.
[Xperia Z2 General] hamdir:
The next thing to come from dual cameras is simulated optical zoom and massively better upscaling

so it will revert the situation of tiny pixels, instead of smudging a very noisy pixel from an in-precise 13MP+ sensor (which requires down sampling to be of any use), the next tech will actually upscale a very clean 4/5MP image coming from a respectable 1.5um to 2.0um pixels sensors and then use the different zoom levels from both camera to reconstruct at 10MP+ image and create optical zoom

there is a physical / optical barrier to Smartphone photography and it can only be solved with compute

most likely this tech wasn't ready for the M8 / cost considerations (the UP sensor is already not cheap) this is why they were only able to benefit from the depth info coming from the two cameras, so admittedly its not the best showcase for this tech, even the refocus thing isn't that great until they greatly improve the precision algorithm (personally i am not impressed with Ufocus, i can't stand visual imperfections in a photo)
[Xperia Z2 General] solwretep:
I really like how "pure and true" the Z2 photos are. I love that Sony opted for the less-compressed and analog way of treatment. Just like a good camera should be :)
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
That sounds interesting, but call me a skeptic of dual-cam...

The Oppo Find 7 already compiles and upscales multi-shots to a 50MP image using just one sensor, and results are surprisingly okay for zooming. Yet it still can't touch the Lumia 1020's full level of details and zoom, nor an extra sensor will IMO. That's cause beyond it's tiny 1.12µm pixels, the 1020 has a very larger single sensor area, as well as a top notch lens and quality processing. Using 2 small sensors and 2 lenses placed apart is calling from trouble from a mechanical and cost standpoint.

Now Samsung's ISOCELL is going the opposite direction, preferring pixel color accuracy over per pixel sharpness, but since it's individual pixels can do multi-exposure for live-HDR, I wonder if Samsung can combine this ability with Oppo's "supersampling" to come up with their kind of zooming...

In the end however, the Z1 and S5 are better than the Z and S4 because they increased the sensor size allowing more pixels, and I hope this trend will further continue.
[Xperia Z2 General] hamdir:
what happens if you don't have room for a bigger sensor (in depth) and want to keep a big pixel, the answer is here:

http://www.engadget.com/2014/02/26/corephotonics-dual-lens-smartphone-camera/

the Oppo needs you to hold still as it takes mutlishots for upscaling, the dual sensor tech above only does it in one shot, just like the change focus trick on nokia requires multiple shots while the M8 does it in one (even if its a post blur)
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
With my concerns expressed above, I'd rather take the single larger sensor and thicker phone over dual-cam. But the Lumia Icon/930 packs a healthy sensor too in a thin body, so I'm not sure if dual cam is necessary. I mean how far did HTC's last bold camera move take them? The M8 even lost OIS...
[Xperia Z2 General] hamdir:
it took them well, its the most well awarded phone ever, packed nearly every mobile award in 2013, Anandtech rare gold award holder, winner of the best new mobile handset at MWC 2013, best smartphone at MWC 2014 and the best selling HTC device ever made (One series)

if it "Destroyed them" like you claim I seriously doubt they would have released the same camera again, just enhanced

average customers dont care MP either, they just want a good photo and a mostly a functional camera, the M7 had the most useful camera in 2013 with just modest 4MPs it was the most useful and reliable, never motion blurs, never out of focus regardless of the speed or light conditions

cut the drama they are not as nation huge as Samsung so they can't brute sell like them but the One series is holding the entire company on its own

if you are still skeptic check the mega One M7 mega thread in my signature
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
HTCs don't hold up too well in camera competition mate, but now let's get back to the Xperia Z2 please.
[Xperia Z2 General] nexuspur:
Im on aicp atm and I'm using snap camera. With nightmode there isn't so much noise as in normal scene mode. But in general this phone or general Sony phones have got problems with noise afaik.
[Xperia Z2 General] zaryab360:
Why there is too much noise in pics? :/
[Xperia Z2 General] gemtin92:
Because auto mode set to high ISO, try manual mode with ISO 50/100, if the picture is to dark try set ISO 200 and so on.

Z2 is making good photos but only in manual mode..

Some of mine without any modifications, manual mode 20,7mpx, iso 100:
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Photos on latest stock 232 in 8 mpx are really great.

Here some samples

Look details at 100 % crop,I am excited :) ;)

https://flic.kr/p/APzuFd

https://flic.kr/p/APwddQ

https://flic.kr/p/AR4tNu
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Edit with Flickr app effect
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Here some more pictures

one night,from hand

video Full HD :)
[Xperia Z2 General] Allek84:
Launch for today :)
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Dresden 5 by doministry, on Flickr

Dresden 4 by doministry, on Flickr

Dresden 3 by doministry, on Flickr

Dresden 2 by doministry, on Flickr

Dresden 1 by doministry, on Flickr