yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Tezcatlipoca:
Pre- Windows Mobile 5 devices used volatile RAM for program memory *and* for storage memory. Consequently, a loss of power (e.g. totally drained battery) would cause anything the user installed or stored in the storage memory to be lost.

The memory in WM5 devices is different to in pre-WM5 devices.

WM5 devices use "Persistant Memory Storage".

Program memory is volatile RAM, like in a PC. If power is lost, the contents of the RAM are lost.

Storage memory is non-volatile flash ROM. If power is lost, no data is lost.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] LuXx:
I use this reg tweak to stop windows from moving the slider. I now leave the slider at 3 mb on the storage side. Hope this helps!! LuXx

Never defragment Memory

This tweak will make sure your memory will never be fragmented, for optimal memory use.

HKCU\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\SHELL

Create an empty key with the name "NeverDorkMemory"
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lts:
Note that the "NeverDorkMemory" key has no effect on WM5:

http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/for...iew=next&sid=d2056f3326ea430b21236fd42702f402

For more info on memory on WM5, have a look here:

http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/03/16/552996.aspx
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wgary:
So trying to synthesize all of this...

So... if I understand this correctly... with WM5:

1. There are several kinds of internal memory:

*Flash (persistent) memory, which in the control panel is called "Storage Memory." This includes installed programs and databases.

*ROM where the OS is for the most part (other than external patches) stored.

*RAM (volatile) memory, which in the control panel is called "Program Memory." Programs and data from Storage and ROM are loaded into RAM to actually run. This is why even a freshly reset device has a good hunk of RAM used to accommodate the OS.

2. RAM is NOT interchangeable with persistent storage, which is why the slider won't move in the control panel. Tweaking the registry will produce a superficial change of allowing the slider to move. But that has no actual effect on how memory is allocated.

3. This implies that saving "Storage Memory" by (a) UPX, (b) installing to a storage card, (c) or any other means available, will do absolutely nothing to improve "Program Memory".

4. The storage card is another kind of memory, "Removable flash (persistent) memory." Since this is in fact even slower read/write than the internal flash memory, there is in fact a net loss in installing to it. Unless you have a ton of data and app's, 40 MB on my Wizard, there is no reason to do that.

QUESTIONS:

1. Are the conclusions above correct? Is it best to just go ahead and install to the internal storage?

2. Are the caches stored in internal Storage, meaning that the old trick of moving the caches to the external Storage is no help? (Again, unless you have loads of data and app's)

3. Where does \Extended_ROM\ fit into all of this?

* Is this just another bank of persistent flash memory that has special protection (surviving hard reset)? Or is it somehow different?

* Does the amount of storage given to the extended ROM simply subtract out of the Storage memory? Or how does this work?

* Can you somehow adjust the memory allocation for the ext ROM?

* Is there any benefit of copying or locating certain files into ext ROM, other than CABs available for reinstall after a hard reset?

4. Is the ROM in fact a fixed storage bank independent of the others? Or can this be recovered to Storage memory?

WM2003's memory was, in contrast, quite simple to understand. I am still struggling to figure out how to best make use of the available memory in WM5, although I really love the benefits of persistent storage (which go way beyond the "iPaq File Store" included on the 6315 which wasn't of tremendous use.)

THANKS for any insights.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wgary:
Someone really smart...

Can some really smart person give me some insights on this?

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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ZeBoxx:
Re: So trying to synthesize all of this...

Correct

This is really the same section as the persistent memory - the difference is that this section is reserved and cannot be written to... it is truely read-only, unless you cook your own ROM and install that using a ROM installer (much like the AKU2 ROM update installer).

Nearly true. Only the bits that need to be in RAM get loaded into RAM - this does, obviously, include parts of the O/S, a good chunk of the Pocket Outlook services, the phone, and the majority of all drivers.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] blinkin:
Hi,

this is my first post on this forum so probably it will be a little newb style but what the heck, I can't find the answer to my question so I will dig this topic out

1) I believe it still remains true? I mean I'm using HTC Tytn and microSD ultra II card and still the internal flash memory is faster than the removable flash right? So until I got some space left on the internal memory for better performance I should install apps right there? Are there some recommendations to not fullfil this memory (ie. always leave 10% space on it)?

2) What about battery drain? Are there any significant differences in that aspect between those 2 memories?
[AT&T, Rogers, Bell, Telus Samsung Galaxy S III] oreo918:
Back when the OTA with Android v4.3 came out. I quickly updated my device and went from Android 4.1.2 (rooted) to v4.3 (no root, +knox). I didn't like the update, so I rebooted into recovery, did a full wipe and proceeded to run my nandroid restore point back to an Android Version older than 4.3.

So I thought anyways. I hard bricked my AT&T Samsung Galaxy S3 (sgh-i747) faster than you can say "oops." At that point my phone was a paper weight. It would not turn on, couldn't get the light in the top left corner to even blink showing me that the battery was in fact taking a charge. I couldn't get it to do anything period. So I got another S3 and moved on. My AT&T Galaxy S3 sat in the bottom drawer of my dresser for the better part of a year EASY!!

Yesterday I pulled it out and my G/F somehow got it into Download Mode. At this point I tried everything. I tried wiping/factory data reset/ fromatted everything just in hopes of getting a successful boot up. I tried Multiple Odin version with a CF-Auto-Root.*.*.tar.md5, also root66.ATT.*TAR.MD5 and atleast 2 other .tar packages and the bootloader for AT&T. Nothing would work via Odin. When I power on myu phone it was going directly into download mode saying "NO OS INSTALLED" I finally downloaded Android 4.4.2 KitKat VanirAOSP ROM from the link below

http://true-android.blogspot.com/2014/01/android-442-kitkat-vaniraosp-rom-for-at.html

I then put the ROM and Gapps zip files onto my 32gb sdcard using a microSD reader. Once both zip files were copied to my sd-card, I right-clicked on the the SDCARD drive inside "My Computer" and selected to 'Eject SDCARD'

I then put the SDCARD into my AT&T sgh-i747 and put the phone into CWM Recovery "Philz Touch 6"

From there I did standard wipe, then flashed rom and afterwards I flashed gapps. Phone is back up and fully operational ever since. I wish it hadn't only taken me so long to find this out. :P I hope this may help someone. Can anyone else confirm this method?
[Verizon Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Edgar Gmz:
Hi guys, i need help, i bought a brand new Verizon Galaxy NOte Unlocked to a person he rooted it, i dontt know anything about rooting, i didnt care as long as my cellphone worked. What happened? MetroPCS its supposed to give me not only data also 4G, but im gettin none, i called them and they checked everything so the problem is with my phone, i can make phone calls and everythig except the mms messaging and the internet data. I will appreciate any help please. Also i can say somethin interesting i downloaded some programs to customize themes, wallpapers and several stuff was clicking here and there, and suddenly i got a 4G icon on the cellphone and it lasted, but then i lost it.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] adam.kelly2:
Are there any benefits of updating via an RUU versus an OTA?

Searched before making this thread. Didn't see anything. Thanks in advance.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] PillowMetal:
An RUU is cleaner than an OTA; the latter only patches existing applications whereas the former installs them outright. Of course this is because an RUU also wipes your phone.

They also may be leftover files no longer used when you do an OTA, because it doesn't cleanup. If you do a hex compare of files and directories between the two methods, you will see differences.

I personally like to use RUU and get a clean start, especially when jumping from say JB to KK. I backup apps and setting with Titanium Backup first and restore later.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] adam.kelly2:
Thank you. I figured as much but didn't quite understand the basic differences between the two.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] matinm90:
two different entities

Though the guy above me is right. I wanted to make sure to point out what makes them different. An OTA is strictly an upgrade, where as an RUU contains the full software. And an RUU WILL erase everything on the device, whereas an OTA will not. Obviouslly for the case of those who do not root or anything like that an OTA is good enough. But for those that do root, and RUU may be the best way to upgrade the stock software. Hope made the differences clear, and I hope I didnt say anything redundant.
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] adam.kelly2:
Thanks, and to make sure I understand this, would I be fair to say that an OTA would be like accepting the Windows 8.1 update when you already have Windows 8, where as an RUU would be like formatting your hard drive and doing a fresh install of Windows 8.1?
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] matinm90:
Oh yeah I could have just said that lol. Yeah that's basically the difference. But you can't say one is better than the other. They both have their tradeoffs.
[G2 Android Development] OptimusRs:
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* Ported From G Pro 2 Official D838 10c

* Base On New LG D802 20f Firmware

* Aroma Installer

* Stock KK Kernels

* Call Recording Feature

* 3 Way Reboot Options

* Rooted With SuperSu

* Busybox

* Odexed

* Zipaligned

* Split View

* Brightness And Volume Toggle

* Button Combination

* NavBar Small Mod

* Knock Code Support For All Variants

* Support 4K , Slow Motion And Magic Focus

* Remove Bloatware

* Remove A lot Of Useless Apps And Files

* New Boot Animation

* New Shutdown Animation

* New Boot Sound​

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* New Port From D838 10c Firmware

* Based On The New D802 20f Firmware

* Add Knock Code Support For All Variants

* Add Auto Panel Detection

* New Boot Animation

* New Shutdown Animation

* Fixed ART Bootloop Bug

* Fixed Some Bugs

* Fixed LS980 NFC Bug

* Update SuperSu

* Update GApps​

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* Root Your Device Here

* Flash Custom Recovery Here, A Tool To Do That

* Full Wipe (Wipe Date/Factory Rest, Format System, Format Data )

* Flash The Rom

* Flash KK Baseband (IF You Already Flash it Then No Need To Flash It Again)

* Hit The Thanks Button And Enjoy​

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OptimusPro V4.5​

MD5 : (5487e4f44ec541ded5e082d5b4629948)​

OptimusPro V4.5 Mirrors ​

XDA:DevDB Information

OptimusPro Rom V4.5, ROM for the LG G2

Contributors

OptimusRs

ROM OS Version: 4.4.x KitKat

ROM Kernel: Linux 3.4.x

ROM Firmware Required: Kitkat Baseband

Version Information

Status: Stable

Current Stable Version: 4.5

Stable Release Date: 2014-08-02

Created 2014-03-07

Last Updated 2014-08-13
[G2 Android Development] OptimusRs:
Q: I Have LS980/VS980 But And I Have Problem With The Rom and SMS App Not Work

A: I Dont Have LS980/VS980 And I Add Them Only For Test if u want full Working Rom Go To Stock Or Ask Some LS980/VS980 Devs Work On The Rom To Fix The Bugs and For SMS use Hangouts App Or Any SMS Apps From Play Store

Q: I Flash This Rom and i Get Bootloop / Stuck At LG Logo How To Fix It?

A: Enter The Recovery Mode And Format System And Flash The Rom Again

Q: I Dont Want This Small NavBar Mod How To Change IT To Normal

A: Download This And Flash It In The Recovery

Q: Knock On/Off Not Working For Me After Flashing This Rom

A: Update The Touch Firmware By Going To The Hidden Menu (3845#*xxx#) Where xxx is Your Model Number 3845#*xxx# -->Settings --> Update Touchscreen Firmware)

Q: I Don't Get LTE Option in Network Settings... Even Though i Have The Right APN Settings

A: Go To System/app And Delete LteConfigs.apk And it Odex And Reboot

Q: How I Back To Stock?

A: Flash Your Stock Rom Firmware With LG Mobile Tool Or Flash Any Stock Rom With The Recovery

Q: Why Google Apps Force Close Every Reboot.

A: This is A bug because SwiftKey App So Just Remove it.​
[G2 Android Development] OptimusRs:
* Cloudyfa For His Aroma

* xdabbeb For His Camera

* Hid3rs For His SystemUI Mod

Love My Work? You Can Support My Work By Little Donate - PayPal ;)​

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[G2 Android Development] GizmoKaca:
Thank you so much for this! I hope the WiFi bug gets sorted out soon as I really want to try this ROM! :D
[G2 Android Development] krazie1:
This looks awesome, have you tried the knock code?
[G2 Android Development] OptimusRs:
Yes It Work Great I Will Upload Some ScreenShots :D
[G2 Android Development] Schrotty35:
Great, wait for 32gb devices.

Gesendet von meinem LG-D802 mit Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] nino64:
+1
[G2 Android Development] Dri94:
Vs980!!!! Great work though!
[G2 Android Development] whosaysjohn:
downloading and then waiting for 32gb patch...
[G2 Android Development] Cloudyfa:
Great job, mate!
[G2 Android Development] liti15:
Good job mate i will try without wifi :)
[G2 Android Development] umaru:
great work! will be patiently waiting for D803.

thanks!
[G2 Android Development] franko72rm:
It would have been great if the wifi worked Rom. There will be a patch?

Thanks and good job
[G2 Android Development] nino64:
waiting for 32gb patch....+1+1+1+1+
[G2 Android Development] diaboliko.hacker:
wow!!!!!!!!! great work, waiting for working wifi version
[G2 Android Development] angel_boulevard:
Can this rom use camera mod with 120fps?
[G2 Android Development] biggerbigboy:
OptimusRS

Can you please testen If the cam works with closed Quick window case?

Can you also add screenies from the Quick Window functions?

Does the magic Focus work?

Is 120 fps cam also so dark like in stock Rom?

Does the Mini view work?

And which functions does the back led have?

Does it blink when a Face on cam is detectet like on g flex?

Good Job i will Flash it when Wifi works
[G2 Android Development] Jishnu Sur™:
Mr OptimusRs, where is my name on the OP? :P I helped asking new apps from you Hahahaha.. Again Great work as expected. Cool.. I will try on my D802 soon :D
[G2 Android Development] leegreggs:
Hi thanks for all the work . Tried to install as per instruction in the op , but it just kicked me back to the bare bones android recovery .... and had to kdz back to stock with flash tool

Before install i was on 80210b rooted firmware with twrp recovery .....

Thanks for all hard work
[G2 Android Development] smartjain:
will it work on LG G2 d802 32gb ?
[G2 Android Development] AyDee:
Will the d800 patch allow us to keep recovery?
[G2 Android Development] qamrij:
I think it will work, if you see the files for 32 gg are there to be downloaded. I will give it a try today and maybe ill do a video of the installation aswell. But not until 14.00 right now im on my shift so cant do much from here

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] aaronkuek:
:good::good: Thanks OptimusRS :good::good: Great JOBS!!!

Just flashed V2 on my D802 LG G2..32GB...SEA version

Everything working except No LTE
[G2 Android Development] qamrij:
Fffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuu :) i have to waittttttt

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] Lowresolution:
Bro , what if i want to go back ?
[G2 Android Development] Hid3rs:
You'll have to downgrade to 4.2.2 again, using LG Flash Tool.
[G2 Android Development] waleedshiekh:
Flashed V2. Working flawlessly. Thanks Dev.
[G2 Android Development] TaDoey:
Is there an estimate as to when this might get an ls980 version?
[G2 Android Development] tnosz:
Awesome! Thank you for supporting the d800! Can't wait to try it out.
[G2 Android Development] Piotrekk:
Could someone report how the rom reacts after changing the dpi to 400 or 380? I guess, some LG apps will look weird... For me the stock 480 dpi look is too big...

Gesendet von meinem LG-D802 mit Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] smartjain:
i am using 32GB D802 4.2.2 version, Do I need to use D802 KK 32GB + 16GB Patch
[G2 Android Development] gypsy214:
Seems like with the G Pro 2 pictures looks with more real colors and shaper images.

Edit. Anyone with D801 (tmobile) flashed this? You know we can flash D802 roms. I'm on stock KK and correct me if I'm wrong on doing these process to flash this rom. Downgrade to 4.2.2, Root flash custom recovery, Flash rom, flash stock d801 kk kernel, flash kk radio. And will it keep custom recovery?
[G2 Android Development] Hid3rs:
Does GPS work for you guys?

Edit: Nevermind, fixed it.

Edit2: Tried enabling swype input method in stock keyboard by editing build.prop, then I got stuck at LG logo after rebooting. Ouch. Be careful with this kind of stuff!
[G2 Android Development] pirelli2006:
good job! pls lte repair!
[G2 Android Development] mmeidl78:
For me (LG G2 D802 16 GB) no network (vodafone germany) after installing the new V2-File and patch and the message "There was root" Displays and I cannot use SuperSU (an error message like there is no su library or something like this) appears. I've wiped everything and flashed rom + patch.

Gonna use the old file from the chinese forum a few pages back. There is also no root, but network :)
[G2 Android Development] Lowresolution:
How is this as a daily driver for you guys ?
[G2 Android Development] waleedshiekh:
Yes.
[G2 Android Development] xatou:
V2 working perfect on d802 32gb.

Στάλθηκε από το LG-D802 μου χρησιμοποιώντας Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] Schrotty35:
Link from Patch D802 16GB + 32GB.zip not work by me. Mirror?
[G2 Android Development] Lecl0ne:
Problem solved: Do NOT leave spaces between comas (default, supl, mms = default,supl,mms

---------- Post added at 09:51 AM ---------- Previous post was at 09:50 AM ----------

Very good. Better than CM11 or stock G2 IMO.
[G2 Android Development] mvgadagi:
why wireless storage i want to install the recovery ..Im not able to install the recovery itself...:crying:

please help me
[G2 Android Development] Lecl0ne:
Is your device rooted? If so, is it in debugging mode ?
[G2 Android Development] fuxmen:
Sorry my post is not meant fr You ;/ I wonder why there is no Wirless Storage in this rom like in stock.
[G2 Android Development] mvgadagi:
Finally able to install..thanks developer for awesone rom
[G2 Android Development] rizki cimenks:
Will try today :D
[G2 Android Development] malek777:
The battery on.this rom is really good.compared to the other ports.
[G2 Android Development] Linux:
Hi, Can i use gravity box with this rom?

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 con Tapatalk 4
[G2 Android Development] ceylin45:
What about m8 port g2 imposibble?

Thanks.

I think so you are working
[G2 Android Development] Yamahar6riding:
It's being worked on

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2717465

[LG-HTC] {Kit-Kat 4.4} Port from M8 (Sense)
[G2 Android Development] Subtleone:
Yes.
[G2 Android Development] rizki cimenks:
Hope next update Wireless Storage present in this rom. :)
[G2 Android Development] Boobook:
Does anybody know how to make a working viper4android?
[G2 Android Development] mvgadagi:
What's that?
[G2 Android Development] Curtis7990:
Multitasking disappeared from settings menu :confused:
[G2 Android Development] born_fisherman:
Does this have group MMS in stock messaging app and are you able to do 3 way/conference calling?
[G2 Android Development] Manafest:
No it is there.
[G2 Android Development] Curtis7990:
It happened few days after i had v4.3 really strange, i don't care a lot, i don't use multitasking options
[G2 Android Development] G2 Pro:
can You make 'One Tab On Clock On Status Bar To Turn The Screen Off...' flash?

sorry my bad english.

I love this Rom(OptimusRs Pro 2 Rom For LG G2 V4.3)!

But Some reason come back to a Original Rom

But! I be poisoned by 'One Tab On Clock On Status Bar To Turn The Screen Off And Hold It To Show the Power Menu'!

can you make a Flash This(One Tab On Clock On Status Bar..) zip File? I'm using F320k

Thanks you!
[G2 Android Development] ziociccio:
Hi.

I have rooted G2 4.4.2,with TWRP recovery installed using AutoRec app.

Now I have cloudypro v2,can i install this optimusrs pro2 over this?
[G2 Android Development] Boobook:
Yes. Wipe system, data, cache/dalvik (optional) and install Optimus rom
[G2 Android Development] ziociccio:
Thanks so much.

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] OptimusRs:
Here I Already Post A Flashzip

Edit You Want This For Stock Rom?? If Yes Just Upload LGSystemUI.apk From Your F320K Stock Rom I Will Make it For You
[G2 Android Development] G2 Pro:
Thx.. but crash systemui.. I'm using F320K21P

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I didn't see 'Edit You Want This For Stock Rom?? If Yes Just Upload LGSystemUI.apk From Your F320K Stock Rom I Will Make it For You' !

I'm just wipe but stile systemui crash.. I'm gonna factory reset or KDZ I think

just a moment..
[G2 Android Development] G2 Pro:
LGSystemUI.Apk

http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=4070429003&uk=3544555560 LGSystemUI

http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=2848752551&uk=3544555560 Framework-res

http://pan.baidu.com/share/link?shareid=2855590186&uk=3544555560 lge-res

I'm using F320K 21P Thanks :)
[G2 Android Development] kodrnusa:
The rom is awesome, I just miss the thorch quicksettings tile. Can you ad this in your next release? Thanks

Poslano z mojega LG-D802 z uporabo Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] ziociccio:
Ok.

Without install kitkat baseband?

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] Boobook:
better to install
[G2 Android Development] ziociccio:
Well. Thanks.

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] imkr1:
Still facing random reboot..
[G2 Android Development] darz23:
is it required to install KK Baseband even if I'm using Kitkat Stock already?
[G2 Android Development] pluginre:
You should be good to go without having to flash kk baseband
[G2 Android Development] Curtis7990:
New firmware here in italy that implements knock code with screen off. Hope it will be implemented in v4.4 or v5 ;)
[G2 Android Development] Linux:
Sometimes Still facing random reboot..

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 con Tapatalk 4
[G2 Android Development] carrara750:
Quote :banghead:

Inviato dal mio LG-D802 con Tapatalk 2
[G2 Android Development] jomansch:
not required coming from stock kitkat, works fine here...:good:
[G2 Android Development] akooos:
Question

Hey all!

I have Optimus RS Pro 2 V3 installed on my D802 and would like to update to 4.3 but unfortunately I couldn't read all 200 pages of comments and the 'Search this thread' didn't give me proper results on this matter.

Can I install Autorec.apk on custom V3 or shall I do it manually by kdz and then again the new version?

Thank you in advance!
[G2 Android Development] Lecl0ne:
+1, really miss ;)
[G2 Android Development] leosanxin:
I have f320k with stock kitkat 4.4.2, i was root with iooroot, install auto res .apk, up rom kitkat, now i want to up OptimusRs Pro 2 V4.3. How do i do, do i up kitkat baseband after fash this rom ( can i use auto res .apk to fash this rom)

Gửi từ LG-F320K của tôi bằng cách sử dụng Tapatalk
[G2 Android Development] xRedDroidx:
Agree, hope to see v4.4 soon :D

Inviato dal mio LG G2
[G2 Android Development] born_fisherman:
Can someone confirm that this rom has group messaging in the stock messaging app?
[G2 Android Development] mqno:
i am using v4.2 and it does have group messaging in the stock messaging app probably other versions have too