yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z2 General] solwretep:
Isolated issue with that particular Z2 ....
[Xperia Z2 General] progosu:
I truly don't understand why Sony is always step behind the rest. Sony is selling their senors to almost everyone and these guys manage to make incomparably better cameras in their flagships, how is that even possible, why Sony don't care that much about camera quality in their phones? I like almost everything about Z2, but the camera is a huge turn off and a dealbreaker.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Those results are totally unbelievable. Even my 4 years old Naite performs better than that. Z2 can't be 'THAT' worse.
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Where's the source of those photos?
[Xperia Z2 General] progosu:
http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/124/4899662/1/rv/sony-xperia-z2-review/
[Xperia Z2 General] mushtafa:
I almost bought the M8 at the weekend, but pre-ordered the Z2 instead due to the camera being better. Perhaps it isn't?

Sent with Tapatalk
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
These are not the only photo examples around, this is just an example of some images.

I have heard recently that some Taiwan versions of the Z2 do NOT have the G-lens & some do, so this should be taken into consideration when judging these photos.

Yes the images taken by the Z2 are not the best, but I have seen images taken that were better than the competition.

All of the cameras can take great images IMO....for mobile cameras.

I have pre-ordered the Sony Z2 also and do NOT regret it, I like the design & aesthetics of the Z2 , I am not going to buy a mobile phone just because it has the best camera.

Overall I think the Z2 has the best all round specifications, which includes a pretty good camera.
[Xperia Z2 General] gavinfabl:
M8 photo samples https://www.flickr.com/photos/gavinfabl100/sets/72157643265004874/
[Xperia Z2 General] solwretep:
Here are more pics with Z2:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/louietran/13563446113/
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
Thx for sharing guys! Outdoors performance is pretty good in Superior Auto mode, some indoors do have some yellowing tint. Can't wait to see some full 20MP shots too.
[Xperia Z2 General] janne303:
Camera in mobilephones is crap If you don't Photoshop or lightroom the pictures hehe. Check my pic from a crappy note 2...

Skickat från min GT-N7100 via Tapatalk
[Xperia Z2 General] riro1612:
Is this really crap?....
[Xperia Z2 General] janne303:
Yes before the edit in the photoprogram lightroom it was crappy :D
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
"Mobile camera is crap" or "stop expecting good shots from a phone" is an invalid argument. With the 1020 pulling DSLR-like quality and iPhones working with excellent consistency, we want something care-free for our Android too, but there's always some issue. HTC One good in low-light, no match in daylight, N3 excellent 4k and daylight shots, bad low-light, Z1 good all-around system, overprocessed results, maybe lens issues.

At least Sony and Sammy are trying this year hard to get rid of the problems, the Z2 is less processed (and bit softer), and generally WB improved, and I like what I see from the S5's ISOCELL too. But in the end, Sony could do more with it's larger 20MP sensor than always shooting in 8MP/16:9 Superior Auto, we want the full 20MPs to shine, and if that can't happen, just have an 8MP one like the iPhones and deliver that level of consistency.

Google is partially to blame, we're still waiting for that newer camera API, customization and manual modes, but it is arriving shortly it seems.

http://www.androidauthority.com/android-camera-app-363560/
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
Actualy Higher Resolutuon means more noise, these pictures are taken with apropriate ISO, exposure and whitebalance along with probably being shot in 2 or 8MP
[Xperia Z2 General] RyanRR:
Tried taking few shots in 2 and 3 MP, still noisy. Maybe I'm doing something wrong.

And I want to say that the noise is very noticeable on PC. On the phone, it looks good, but when I view it on PC, it's completely "messed up".
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Procapture app, night scene mode 20 mpx, keep the phone stable, resize in photoshop pc, upload to a hosting webpage, never use tapatalk.

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My trick is by using procapture app, which allows you to use scenes while preserving the 20mpx capabilities. Furthermore you can tweak the exposure value in such scenes (you can't in the stock app), and also set the focus point (which you can't in night scene mode in stock app).

after that, I reveal the pictures in camera raw (Photoshop pc) to adjust white balance to my liking and a little bit contrast, colour, or even clarity...

By the way, I keep using your rom and probably I will because it seems you're the only one who is concerned about the camera capabilities of the phone.
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
some more low light pics :)
[Xperia Z2 General] kamalmawa:
Is your bootlader unlocked?
[Xperia Z2 General] AnMobi:
Manual 20.7MP iso 50
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Just for you to see the differences between 4.4.2 and 4.4.4

All 100% crops from 2 pictures taken at a few minutes time each other. Both of them shooted at 20 mpx, ISO 50.
[Xperia Z2 General] itsjustJOH:
These are very good!
[Xperia Z2 General] AndroidInsanity:
wow. 4.4.4 is a lot better. the sharpening seems to be toned down without losing detail, A lot of fine tuning I see.

Amazing,
[Xperia Z2 General] PRO>KOMP.<:
Nature XPERIA Z2
[Xperia Z2 General] RyanRR:
No, it isn't. Will try taking some photos later and post them. Did a factory reset, maybe that solved something.

L.E: Pictures below. (Big images -> Open in new tab)

Maybe I am just unable to take any good photos, but something doesn't seem quite right with them.
[Xperia Z2 General] avercros:
Can you share your settings?

Are you editing that pics?

Thank you.
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Read my comments some post before in this topic...
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Some more low lights and macros (with a cheap macro lens...)
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
https://drive.google.com/folder/d/0B7kXPU2Y8c5xY0w0TmJOSEN4Umc/edit

Ill continue to put pics in here :D

This is for my college work
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
WOAH how did those macro photos bacome so sharp and with a like 1cm distance o0 my camera cant focus more tha 5/6 cm away from the object :eek:
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
With a cheap macro lens you can buy on eBay for any phone...

For example...

http://www.ebay.es/itm/3-in-1-Clip-...UK_Mobiles_Accessories_RL&hash=item41840994a7
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
Woah..didn't knew about those.Thx man.Sony needs to improve its sensors tho.. tested an alcatel Idol 2 camera and the macro focus was just like that macro lens you showed me. I was pretty surprised but couldnt find what kind fo sensors they put in their phones.
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
That Alcatel mounts a smaller sensor. In phones, generally the smaller the sensor is, the closer you can focus an object...
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
Here's mine.
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
CM12, procapture app (UB obviously)
[Xperia Z2 General] djgigi94:
The quality it's the same like LB or i'm wrong?? how the UB trasform the camera in bad camera? in 3rd party apps are non afflected in camera quality in LB or UB?? The options,iso,scenes and other things are the same like LB?
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
To me it seems the same

Atleast on stock, non stock based roms arent drm dependant so they got their own thing going on
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Here you are my test. Locked bootloader with Envi-rom v2.0, unlocked bootloader with MIUI rom, and _infected cm12. I love Multirom!

What do you think, [MENTION=4895687]Envious_Data[/MENTION] ?
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
well thats interesting

i guess Bionz Never works on my phone then lol

then again Neither has X-Reality
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Did you try this trick?

http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony/xperia-z1-z2-z3-series-devices-drm-t2930672

It worked for me (I preserve my TA partition backup, but I was interested in Multi-rom, etc).
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
I tried folowing exact instructions like 6 times and it just didnt work at all

:/

Im not all too bothered, so long as My NoiseCanceling continues to work then X-Reality and Boinz can continue not to work
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Actuallly those instructions aren't 100% correct... Here you are what I did:

1. Flash ftf containing TA partition

2. Don't boot!

3. Relock BL using flashtool

4. Don't boot!

5. Flash ftf containing TA partition again

6. Dont boot!

7. Unlock BL using flashtool

8. Don't boot!

9. flash boot.img via fastboot (I used Androplus kernel v20b)

10. Boot recovery and flash the rom/kernel you want (I flashed your Envi-Rom v2.0)

11. Flash the restoring-DRM-functions zip before booting.

12. Boot!
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
Ill try again and ill get back to you if i remember to post
[Xperia Z2 General] nvblu4:
CM12 Infected UB of course. Camera FV5
[Xperia Z2 General] nvblu4:
Bit of noise on the first one. Dropped the iso on the second and even though the Nokia's screen is dimmed it looks kinda good :cool:
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Some very low light shots edited
[Xperia Z2 General] jaffa1980:
What a show off! Barre chords AND Ferrero Rocher lol :P
[Xperia Z2 General] KenneyWest:
ok there was a trick on the first xperia z..because the camera software did a bad job at sharpening...blurred everything to much...can we try this? i dont own an xperia z2 (but in 2 days). make a normal picture and make one in burst mode (just one)--->in burst mode the camera did not have the time to "edit" the picture...it must be sharper then a normal one...can someone compare the pictures and have a look on the effect? must be clearly sharper
[Xperia Z2 General] djgigi94:
Here a comparison with crops of 8 megapixel superior auto 16:9 burst do a blurred photo o i'm wrong?
[Xperia Z2 General] KenneyWest:
looks like 80% less artefacts and a better image in fast burst mode

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can you take a picture with trees? and then crop out some branches in superior, auto and fast burst please
[Xperia Z2 General] djgigi94:
Mh yes it's look clear in burst mode....it looks done a better oversampling ;) but in macro pictures the trick fail (object it isn't with a good focus...but later i can do an another tentative)...for the pictures with trees ....i'm sorry i can't :( in my zone there aren't any trees and i'havent any time or chance to go where are those. :(
[Xperia Z2 General] beni8978:
Some shots I took today with pro HDR camera app.
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
"Better" image is not only about pixel peeping.

Show the full size shots.
[Xperia Z2 General] djgigi94:
Were all 8 megapixels 16:9 superior auto(because fast burst take photo only in that format)...i have deleted those :( Same object. You can try by yourself. An advice...macro shoots not satified me(not focal object)...they are better in normal mode. It do a clear shoots with objects in motion and wide photo i think. ;) I made comparison for curiosity and for request ;) Every setting in camera is usefull ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
Uh..the phone can do alot better than those pics bro :p (or you need to practice with that app more) :highfive:
[Xperia Z2 General] beni8978:
Yea,that's for sure but i didn't edit them at all...You are all pro's here :highfive:
[Xperia Z2 General] beni8978:
Photosphere
[Xperia Z2 General] Dilesh Perera:
not sure these are good pics. :) like to learn from Pro photographers here :)
[Xperia Z2 General] lgv2800:
What are your settings?
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
Some nightshots. :highfive:
[Xperia Z2 General] sh4d1t0:
Original

Snapseed

AfterFocus

I like AfterFocus app, I had it on my iPhone 4S
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
Did you try this? cause this worked for me perfectly
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
Funny enough still No

I even went so far as to find a FTF which my phone came with and flashed it relocked bootloader and atop thaf restored TA

It XR n all still failed to work which im generaly confused by.
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
Assuming that you have backed up the TA partition and have an unlocked BL and made a back up.

1. Relock the BL using Flashtools

2. Flash THIS with full wipe

3. Reboot, check camera and x-reality - OK

4. Unlock BL

5. Reboot, check camera and x-reality - still OK

6. Root, install recovery

7. Install pre-rooted zip(your region one) via recovery

8. Flash all files from stock 23.0.1.A.0.167 except system partition with no wipe OR your preferred Kernel (androplus or etc.)

9. Install DRM fix, check camera and x-reality - OK

10. Restore your apps.

Credit goes to [MENTION=1677632]_mysiak_[/MENTION]

PS Hope this won't be bypassed by LP when it's released
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
Still no cake

Lol, does my phone just NOT want this to work

Im not too bothered. Not like i use all these things
[Xperia Z2 General] Ahmed-07:
Would anyone please who shares a photo, share the settings with it?
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
Manual settings vary depending on your scene however i always use touc focus, and 400iso
[Xperia Z2 General] Bn Waheed:
http://imgur.com/3Led7dp

8mb - 400iso - touch focus

still can't shot professional photos like those in the thread :D ,, i shot a lot better photos with my iPhone 5
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Sonata by doministry, on Flickr

Luzern 123 by doministry, on Flickr

With some filters.

As usual:

20mpx Manual, touch-to-focus, center light metering, different white balance acc. to situation.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pandemic:
From my house to the new born building [emoji14]

9MP Superiour !

Sent From Somewhere On Earth With My Z2 ^^
[Xperia Z2 General] Bn Waheed:
A regular quick shot today

http://imgur.com/PR6dFIZ
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Süper mod today now and rain :)

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[Xperia Z2 General] beni8978:
Anyone thinks that 4.4.2 camera performance is better than 4.4.4 ?
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
4.4.4 gives much better daylight pics for me then 4.4.2 but 4.4.2 gives me much better low light
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
I'm looking forward to seeing if there's any improvement in LP!
[Xperia Z2 General] Envious_Data:
Raw file support

This essentialy means faster processing time and also less weirdness to do with the image information
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
I don't feel like Sony is bringing raw support, taking into account that neither Samsung or LG did it in their LP updates (S5, Note 4, LG g3...). Probably when Z4 arrives... But anyways I whish they improve the jpg algorithms...
[Xperia Z2 General] KinzerX:
Bloody fantastic!
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Absolutely not.

Especially considering full 20mpx:

as on 4.4.2 it was worse than 8mpx, now it's better...
[Xperia Z2 General] Brontok:
Guys, am I missing something out ? Is this normal ? Night shots, low light, full auto ? Has anyone else experianced this white(ish) color on top of their pics ? Is manual any better ? Any help is really appreciated.

http://prntscr.com/69e82s

http://prntscr.com/69e8c7

http://prntscr.com/69e8ij
[Xperia Z2 General] Abdl:
Seems like im not the only person facing this problem.

Okay people! A fix?? Anyone??
[Xperia Z2 General] Brontok:
it seems to be a common z2 probem dubbed "bleeding flash".. the back plastic is not placed close enough to the camera thus making the light reflect from the plastic and going over the lens ( creating blue(ish) or white(ish) pictures ). Meaning outdoor lowlight pictures are almost impossible to make.
[Xperia Z2 General] Abdl:
So now whats the solution? Any other person experiencing the same issue?
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Don't use flash in large distances. Flash is only for close portraits at night.
[Xperia Z2 General] yuskhayru:
Mine. ;)

Sent from my D6503
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Good phone :)

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[Xperia Z2 General] migueldbr:
I dont get why Sony does not let superior auto mode be used at 20.7mp...is there any good reason or where they just completely dumb?
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
The same reason lumia shots in 5mpx even having an up to 41mpx sensor.

An 8 mpx picture sizes less than 2MB.

A 20 mpx picture sizes up to 8MB (sometimes even more) and almost never shows an increment in detail level. Tiny sensor, tiny lens and Sony horrendous processing... Even a lot of 18mpx DSLR can't resolve more than 10 effective mpx despite of the much bigger sensor and expensive lens. I've made some test and shooting in 8 mpx, upscaling to 20mpx and adding some sharpening, I get the same detail as shooting in 20mpx with my phone... And with less noise.

Anyways, sometimes I still shot in 20mpx because of the psychological feeling of getting the very best although actually I know there's no appreciable difference...
[Xperia Z2 General] migueldbr:
So basically the 8mp superior auto mode is like taking a 20mp pic and then resize it to 8mp and processing it?
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
The problem with superior auto is that the minimum shutter speed is higher, so in low light you'll have pictures in a higher iso as well, and in consequence, more noise (but also more blur-free pictures).

But apart from this, the quality is similar.

In 4.4.2, 8 mpx pictures were a little bit over sharpened and 20mpx pics were softer.

In 4.4.4, 20 mpx are oversharpened and 8 mpx are softer.

But in any case there is no extra detail, or there is barely extra detail actually. Probably a little bit more in very bright light conditions, but when the light is not completely perfect, shooting in 8 mpx gives you less noise, the same detail and pictures that are easier to share (or to upload to cloud).

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Some test I made on 4.4.4 for an Spanish forum. 100% crops, night scene mode (low light but low iso...)

Is the difference worth?
[Xperia Z2 General] migueldbr:
I'm currently on mobile but yeah, it does not seem to be worth it. What I don't get is how the LG G2 takes similar photos(or even better in some cases), but it's camera is a 13 MP with 2.4F,while Sony is a 20mp with 2.0F...pics should be quite better right?
[Xperia Z2 General] Brontok:
not true. my previous phone was lg g2 (you can see my posts on lg g2 forum) and the picture quality of the xperia z2 is far far better..

you need to know how to take a good picture ( when I give my z2 to my girfriednd she has a hard time of taking one good shot..why ? because she`s not used to the phone, and doesn`t know its limits )
[Xperia Z2 General] migueldbr:
Not really, check out some reviews of cameras which compare these phones and you will see they are very similar. My previous phone was also G2 and the photos were really good. Also, I took the same pic as my friend who has a g2 and the pic was better on his g2.same conditions, I took both pics myself...
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Well that's a complete bullsh..t and don't believe anybody saying this crap.

I tested my phone both in 8mpx and 20mpx and at some point 8mpx is blurred or pixelated and 20mpx still shows detail.

Of course when you look at the whole picture you won't see such a diff.

It's about detail.

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Your test is silly :)
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
Make your own test and post it here like I did. I'll post another one in bright light. By the way, mine wasn't superior auto vs manual, it was night scene both in up to 20 mpx (using procapture app). Probably the picture processing is a little bit different in superior auto, I'll test it too.
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
I promise I will once I come to the PC.

I see you use a different camera app..

Anyway head to head 8 - 20mpx comparison

WITHOUT any resizing

makes sense to me, when you clearly see that

when 8mpx enlarged already shows blur and is pixelated

20mpx still shows more detail.p

Cropping everything back to one resolution negates the whole advantage of higher resolution.

I mean if you crop everything to 5mpx you won't see mich difference between 5mpx and 20mpx shot...
[Xperia Z2 General] migueldbr:
a 20mp resized to 5mp would still be better than an original 5mp..the detail is there, but since the pic has been resized it will look sharper right?
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Not exactly.
[Xperia Z2 General] romdroid.:
Is it true that with lollipop you'll be able to shot in raw?
[Xperia Z2 General] itsjustJOH:
It depends if Sony will implement that. What is sure is that apps will be able to extract the RAW photos from the phones running Lollipop.
[Xperia Z2 General] yavhin:
[IMG="Xperia Z2 D6503"]http://imageshack.com/a/img673/8495/8WRU3x.jpg[/IMG]

Took this shot at a really very very low light using manual mode. For me the result was great!

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Love the result!
[Xperia Z2 General] Brontok:
http://prntscr.com/6e6l4d

http://prntscr.com/6e6kqb
[Xperia Z2 General] styxter:
Just looking all the photos upload here makes me why i can't believe Sony can't fix their camera software. I hope they start focusing this issues.
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
D6503 cihazımdan gönderildi
[Xperia Z2 General] gerarKIA:
Rainy day with low light
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Good???

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[Xperia Z2 General] itsjustJOH:
Yes, yes you are... Oh, you mean the photo? Oh, then yes. :D
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Thanks bro :)

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[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
It's been a while
[Xperia Z2 General] romdroid.:
It's not that bad, people are only over exaggerating.
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
The camera is quite good, but there are many others which are better.
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Great shots.
[Xperia Z2 General] HotKillerZzz:
What app did u use to add the filter/edit?

Xperia Z2 D6503 with AndroPlus Kernel
[Xperia Z2 General] yakupTR:
Firsth photo instagram . Second photo aviary :)

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[Xperia Z2 General] jmwreck:
taken at Peninsula

D6503
[Xperia Z2 General] effective:
I know its early,but can someone with 5.0.2 / or the person who is gonna switch from 4.4.4 to 5.0.2 make some comparrison shots between the 2 firmwares.Thanks in advance ( :
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
When I get 5.0.2 I will definitely post some pics.

However, if it's true 5.0.2 at the current stage performs the memory leak,

I'm not upgrading.
[Xperia Z2 General] IreshS:
Most OEM version of Lollipop doesn't have the memory leak since it can patched by OEM's. Sony spent all this time to give us a bug free version so one of the biggest bug memory leak is probably fixed. I'm on lollipop noe but haven't used it long enough to tell if the bugs fixed or not.
[Xperia Z2 General] doministry:
Thanks great!
[Xperia Z2 General] juanmaasecas:
I've made a little comparisson between the latest firmwares in Xperia Z2. All 100% crops from manual ISO 50, 20mpx pictures. I think the processing in both 4.4.4 and 5.0.2 is the same at lowest ISO, but the differences here are because of the light (the day is cloudy at times, and at the moment of the 4.4.4 picture it was a little bit more sunny, you can see more light and contrast...). However, and even I can´t demonstrate it, I think low light has improved. Pictures at up to 6400 ISO looks much better than before.
[Xperia Z2 General] yavhin:
Dubai Mall

Manual mode

20MP

ISO 400

Exposure +2

White Bal = auto

Android 5.0.2