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[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Matias1982:
Maybe I have missed something on this thread, no Nb1 exploit yet. I'll be honest I've tried every combination and still haven't been successful... Come on community, let's continue to tackle this.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] loganfarrell:
NB1 was rooted a while ago. Yes, it is a ROM, but who cares? It works and is stock. You can use it just like you would any other rooted device. Also, NB1 is old news. NC1 is already out. Try out [MENTION=4708661]muniz_ri[/MENTION] 's amazing NC1 stock rooted ROM at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=52167774

I337_NB1toNC1_KeepRoot_OTA.zip & I337UCUFNC1_100%_Stock_Rooted_ROM(4/24/2014) . I can attest to how awesome it is as I am using it now. If you won't use the ROM, say goodbye to root. Nobody wants to waste time developing a traditional root method when there are bigger and more important things out there.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
amen brotha

Rockin it from my Blue Chrome Themed Deadly Venom SS 3.0.2 NC1 S4 (team: [MENTION=4631220]Venom0642[/MENTION] [MENTION=2284570]ted77usa[/MENTION] [MENTION=833788]rebel1699[/MENTION]) ~ 20GB free cloud https://copy.com?r=vtiraF
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] EEMene:
NC1

Have you upgraded yet to NC1? I upgraded my S4 i337 to OTA NC1 from MK2 and can use ES File Explorer to copy to the extSD card. This wasn't the case when I receive a 4.4.2 OTA upgrade on my Note 10.1 2014 Edition. That's how I got to research into rooting to resolve that problem. Unlike the Note I have not have problems coping to the extSD card using third party file managers with my S4 i337 with NC1 baseline.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
this is a known issue with kitkat.. ao dont think its yur device :)

theres an app in playstore that makes a change to one of the xml files to enable read-write to the card... just search for it... run it.. then uninstall it

Rockin it from my Rockin Smartly Stock NC1 S4 (team: [MENTION=4631220]Venom0642[/MENTION] [MENTION=2284570]ted77usa[/MENTION] [MENTION=833788]rebel1699[/MENTION]) ~ 20GB free cloud https://copy.com?r=vtiraF
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] EEMene:
Thanks .. on the Note 10.1 2014 Ed w/ 4.4.2 I did root it and installed SDFix App to fix the third-party writing restriction to the exSD card. Somehow my S4 i337 NC1 stock does not have the same limitation. Given that, rooting my S4 stock is not a top priority ... I have subscribed to this thread to patiently wait for a root method other than the rooted ROM method.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] loganfarrell:
It won't come. Hate to burst your bubble.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mrcoffee1985:
It worked, the menu button option. Going to disabled apps list and trying did not work. Well not for apps that I had disabled via TB. Thanks for the suggestion thou!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Russ77:
that link states that there's already a workaround, IF that change is ever even implemented.

I don't really get why people buy a phone like an s4 and immediately complain when they can't "root and flash a ROM". a healthy serving of aosp is best served up on a nexus 5 or moto x which are significantly cheaper devices.

Samsung isn't for people who want AOSP, too many work arounds for the closed source drivers and such, it never works right. there are many devs who almost get there but it just doesn't work as well as on a nexus. GPE is close, but that's just it, close.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RoboDroid13:
As long as we have determined developers and supporters there will always be a way.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CAG-man:
Samsung makes great hardware. Don't have to like the software. When I get a mac the first thing I do is delete OSX and put Linux on.

I believe even Samsung is going to tone back TouchWiz to be more ASAP like.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] sirobelec:
I am no dev yet, might become one in a few years, and laugh my arse off at the questions I am about to ask in the lines below.

1. About the bootloader.

I guess it's been tried before, but is it even possible to create a bootloader that's unlocked and imitate AT&T's signature, or verification, or whatever it is, to make even the device's normal recovery "recognize" it as an official "update" and just flash said new bootloader?

It might have been tried, or if it hasn't, I guess it's gonna brick the device many times.

Even a more stupid question: is it possible to "use" a very, very hard bricking (but not too hard) to make the phone so vulnerable that it might be willing to accept whatever you flash on it? xDDDDD

I've read that using JTAG one can get the device to a generic state in which you can flash any firmware on it, but this is messing with the hardware, and... this is going a bit too far to unlock a bootloader. :D

The thread for JTAG was somewhere around the forum, yeah, too lazy to provide the link.

Laugh away at my dumb ideas.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cnewsgrp:
[MENTION=4761349]Russ77[/MENTION]: I bought sgs4 because it had great hardware. In my opinion Nexus and sgs4 have no comparison. Nexus is dull phone with everything mediocre no microcd or expandable battery. Before others hammer me I repeat its my opinion only. I bought nexus5 the day it 2as lanch3d and returned in a week
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rebel1699:
Short answer.......no. There are dozens of threads here in this forum that explain why. They are easy to find, and are very interesting to read. Enjoy.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] knigitz:
Let's get back on-topic please.

Can we stop bumping this thread with off-topic discussion? Some of us are subscribed here, and are waiting on a push notification if/when a root method for nb1 is discovered - I'd recommend that anyone else waiting for root on nb1 (KitKat) to do the same and stop posting in, and cluttering up, this thread.

If we can keep these sorts of threads on-topic it would benefit the whole community in being able to find information quickly and easily - in fact, the information would find you. If we keep these threads clean they can be useful to the community.

Part of the issue with XDA is the amount of off-topic, and frankly, trash posts that people have to search through to find relevant information.

This thread is not where you ask if root is available yet, or ask anything for that matter. When it's available people will post it here. If it's not here, then there is no need to ask, the answer is no.

This thread is not where you talk about unrelated things.

This thread is not where you rant about how much you hate the S4, or Samsung, or AT&T, or TouchWiz, or locked bootloaders. Maybe you should have done more research before buying the phone. Your ignorance is plainly obvious when you post these sorts of things.

This thread is not where you talk about your ideas for rooting the phone. Actually, if you have an idea for obtaining root, try it out yourself. If it doesn't work, then don't post here. If you don't know how to implement your idea then still don't post here because obviously you don't know what you're talking about and your idea likely won't work because of that fact.

Seriously, didn't anyone read the thread title?

These threads are for one thing only, and under the best conditions, work in this way:

OP creates thread entitled "Post here if/when ..."

People adhere to the thread title and don't post off-topic, but subscribe to the thread if interested.

The condition is met, people then post in the thread.

Everyone who subscribed receives relevant push notifications and emails for new posts in this thread.

???

Profit.

Let's get back on-topic now, please. This is a subscription-based, not a discussion-based, thread. This thread will only work if people adhere to the rules, otherwise it will lose it's usefulness, because no one wants to read 50 pages of rants and off-topic discussion in a thread that should be serving a single purpose.

Post here if/when a root method for nb1 (KitKat) is discovered...

This thread needs a mod.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] TurtIe:
No, you just need to chill out a little.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] numbR7:
I wrote a lengthy answer then stopped, deleted it and replaced it with this: are you kidding!?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
I do the same with Windows boxes

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Personally... i think you need a mod.

Hate to say it guy... but i think you miss out on the fact that this is a forum... and people will always go off topic. no matter what you or anyone else says.

even your post is off topic.

Personally... i come here to read those 50 pages of your so called useless info... to find info on other things and how to not do the wrong things to my mobile devices... even if they are off topic they are still interesting topics that others like me may actually want to see and read...

so yes I am in agreement with that last guy... "chill out"
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CAG-man:
I will admit my Mac comment is a little misleading as I have only acquired 2 Macs. I won't pay full cost, so its whenever I strike a good deal. So indeed Iam more like you in I get a Windows box and convert it to linux. Lol
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] knigitz:
Don't complain when noobs ask in every other random thread if we have root yet because people like you ruined this one. I'm out.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
I dont complain other than when people like you jump in with your useless nonesense and comments like that.

This is a place for people nood or not to find informatio THEY want to read

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Nice... im the same... more often than not I build rather than buy store brand.

I cant wait till google comes out with their modular phone :)
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MoodSwinger:
Maybe Sooner than Later...

ChainFire got Root for S4 Int'l (1905) 4.4.2, hopefully at&t isn't far behind considering they are pretty close and usually lumped together.

See here

:D
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cnewsgrp:
Always better to link original. See this link

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2219803

Note that post 3 clearly says will noylt work with att or vzw due to locked boitloaders.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Russ77:
yes, however once the firmware has been rooted, its that much closer to some other Dev figuring out how to get that exploit onto our phones, like saferoot or whatever.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cnewsgrp:
Lets hope so.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] fix-this!:
Do we even know for certain root is being worked on for 4.4.2? For out at&t varients i mean.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Psych0t1c20:
I was wondering the same thing.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] EEMene:
Since my one year warranty expires in a couple days I decided to root my S4 NC1 stock using the rooted ROM method 2 and was pleasantly surprised that it was rather easy and uneventful.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] loganfarrell:
And since it's a stock ROM, all you have to do if you want to get it serviced (in case you have insurance) is back everything up in SS, run Triangle Away, and do a full unroot inside of SuperSU. A factory reset would be advisable, but not necessary really. You could then get it repaired, replaced, or whatever, and then repeat the flashing of the rooted ROM and restore your backup you made beforehand.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ehafling:
I've been following these forums for a while now and I'm wondering if upgrading is really worth it. I'm currently running MDL 4.2.2 rooted stock on my S4 but I would really love to play around with KitKat. It just seems like most of these updates are bringing more harm than good.

If it is worth it do I need to upgrade to MK2 before I go to NC1?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Thr33-F0ur:
Can't you just flash an AOSP KitKat ROM? If you update to MK2 or NC1 you won't be able to flash AOSP roms anymore and you won't be able to Odin back to MDL.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ~wolverine~:
SHOstock is really smooth and is 4.4.2

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2468860
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RockRatt:
+1 to ShoStock-i

Yep if you want and like Touchwiz ShoStock-i is great. It has one of the newest firmwares, is fixed with anything you need for ATT like APN's for ATT already there. I have the older MDB boot loader and my wife's is the MDL boot loader and it works perfectly. You then have the best of both worlds, KitKat and the ability to flash the stock MDL firmware if you need to. You can keep your custom recovery, flash any kernels and modems. If you update to newer ATT firmware you would have to use Safestrap, can ONLY flash Touchwiz based Roms, CANNOT flash kernels, CAN flash modems

Sent From My Spiderman,Ironman,Red,Dark Blue,Green, GreyedOut BadAss Themed I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
Native root has arrived http://towelroot.com/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ~wolverine~:
Wow! That made things easier.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
Yep just download the app, click the button...no computer required...possibly the simplest and easiest to use root method ever released for the s4
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] steelew:
Can anyone confirm towelroot works for the i337?

Can anyone confirm towelroot works for the i337?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ~wolverine~:
yes----NC1---http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53421875&postcount=4

no----NB1----http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53423803&postcount=554
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] steelew:
BOO YAH!!!!!!!

BOO YAH!!!!!!!!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] loganfarrell:
This is the best news to hit our device in a long time. I will be donating to the dev when I get home from my trip and I suggest you all do the same as you are able to encourage development for future updates.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] steelew:
Quick stupid question

NC1 is the current OTA update right? I sort of tuned out all of the upgrade downgrade root stuff because I didn't want to do it that way but I want to make sure I don't OTA to NB1 if thats the one thing that won't work.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] loganfarrell:
NB1 is the predecessor to NC1. NC1 is current until the 4.4.3 update hits us.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] steelew:
Yeah I hope he didn't release this prematurely. I'm pretty sure the exact same thing happened when I was on iOS a couple of years ago and everyone was pissed because he (or someone) gave them the exploit right before the latest update was thought to be released. I will be donating as soon as I get this thing to work. Making titanium backup as I speak.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rayven0001:
I apologize for possibly asking in the wrong place but, I'm using sgh-i337 with android 4.4.2 nc1. I've just rooted with towelroot. I'm attempting to uninstall bloatware using titanium backup pro. Every time I try to uninstall an app, I get an error message telling me that the .apk file cannot be located. Could someone maybe help me with this issue? I'm sure others might possibly appreciate having this knowledge (as I will) when they root their device. I also apologize if I've wasted time, or if I've missed the answer somewhere. I have searched. I just haven't found too much to help. I've also verified root access with root checker. Thank you for your time.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] cybershawngates:
1.towelroot

2.root checker

3.superSU

i used this program called system app uninstaller (red trash can icon) - worked great it tells u what is safe to remove - i removed everything that is at&t app. I wanted to remove chaton but apparently it can't remove that. You'll know its working when it asks for root permissions and the superSU dialog pops up. Bye bye at&t crapware.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ehafling:
Okay so now that there's a real root method for stock, is it worth upgrading to stock 4.4.3? Or should I just flash a KitKat ROM and keep my MDL bootloader?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] mg2195:
keep in mind...although kitkat has root...it still does not have a recovery for flashing aosp or other roms. so if you ever wanna switch to aosp or a different firmware rom, than you're going to wanna stick with the mdl bootloader
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RockRatt:
Keep your MDL boot loader and flash ANYTHING you want. If you are in fact on MDL boot loader you can have a real recovery that let's you flash ANYTHING. If you do update just to use this method of towel root then you will get root and it looks like safestrap possibly works. But with safestrap you are stuck using Touchwiz based ROM (in case you ever wanted to try aosp based Roms).

With the MDL boot loader and Loki +twrp/or whatever recovery you can flash whatever Roms you want, whatever kernels you want, etc. etc. We will get 4.4.3 once it comes out in a custom ROM.

Sent From My Spiderman,Ironman,Red,Dark Blue,Green, GreyedOut BadAss Themed I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Butchr:
Worked for me on nc1.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] steelew:
it worked

It works (towelroot)! I am now on 4.4.2 (NC1) and rooted. It was a PITA but after ODINing 4.3 and OTAing 4.4.2 then rooting with towelroot, it worked. I did have to wipe everything to get it to work though. I'm using titanium backup to restore all my apps right now.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] rayven0001:
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I like the app. However I can't seem to completely uninstall every app. the way that I could in Titanium Backup while using other devices. I tried to uninstall the stock browser and Google Chrome. After I was told it was successfully uninstalled, I still discovered it in my list of apps. :-/
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DanRyan85:
Rooted last night with towel root! Time for me to get rid of some bloat ware too!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] MavsAreMyTeam:
Bless
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] wkm001:
SuperSU after Towelroot

I installed the SuperSU app from the Play Store after running tr.apk. It installed but is not able to update the binaries. Any suggestions
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] big ach:
AWESOME!!! WHAT A GREAT START TO THE WEEK!!!

Just did it, altered build.prop

Everything working great!
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tge101:
Can you elaborate on how/what you altered in build.prop?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] KeeperOfThePizza:
Still going to have a locked boot loader I imagine?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Archienj7:
Get the one from the original Towelroot.com thread then let it update. It worked flawlessly for me. You'll see it, it talks about the issue you had.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] LuckRocks:
S4 stock with NC1 rooted with Towelroot.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tge101:
I rooted my NC1 stock with towelroot.com. What is the next step to get a custom recovery installed so I can install roms?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
did u follow the instructions in that thread that state what the next steps are?

no...

you'll have to update SuperSU from that thread and then install SafeStrap 3.72...
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] tge101:
Thanks
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] patstar5:
Can I have a link to thread?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] drengland:
towel root

Will rooting with towel root trip the knox counter? is it possible to unroot the towel root method?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] RockRatt:
TowelRoot does not appear to trip Knox counter. I do not know about unrooting it, I believe it was answered in his thread

Sent From My Spiderman,Ironman,Red,Dark Blue,Green, GreyedOut BadAss Themed I337
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] riksterinto:
Rooting itself won't trip Knox but flashing a custom recovery or kernel will. What's the point of rooting if you can't use custom ROMs?

my.devices

SGH-I337M.GPE by Dan.KT Kernel with overactive imagination and undisputed

OR

Maple Leaf TW ROM

LG P930.pretty much retired but running CM11
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] CAG-man:
A very good point. But it seems to be a case Google is pushing manufacturers toward. The point of rooting on a locked phone brings the ability to remove the bloat and launchers and replace. More importantly if custom ROMs outside the framework for the device can't be achieved, such as cyanogen instead of Touchwiz based on a samsung device, then xposed allows for the tweaks and enhancements necessary to facilitate those customizations.

Sent from my I337 ATT Galaxy S4. NB1 rooted with Galaxy S5 apps.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] riksterinto:
I don't really see Google as the ones pushing locked devices. More likely the manufacturers and even more likely the carriers. Locked Kernels seem to be a carrier policy and who really cares about a locked bootloader. If you are going to mess around with your device with root access, your warranty support should be limited.

Many devices still let you disable apps(which handles bloat). Launchers don't require root. I guess there is some value in having root for Xposed features and some tweaks although without the ability to make and flash a full backup, I don't think I could be bothered since recovery would be such a pain for gains you can get without rooting.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] kpirnie:
it is the carriers.

Proof and point. AT&T's is locked but TMobile's isnt

Theyll try to tell ya its to keep u safe etc... but really its just to keep the device locked to them

Rockin out with my Smartly Golden Eye. [MENTION=894877]ibs[/MENTION]TiD ~ Free 20G Cloud from Barracuda: http://copy.com/?r=vitraF
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] DanRyan85:
You need v.1.99. Play store is v1.94 and will not work. Not my discovery just passing it along. .
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] ~wolverine~:
Play store has been updated to version 2.0
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] Whizzpopper:
For starters:

1. Get bloatware off your phone

2. Control how apps behave on your phone

3. Customize your phone so you can cover up that TouchWiz ugliness
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] riksterinto:
1. Get bloatware off your phone

..In most new versions of android you can disable the bloat. Make one small mistake removing bloat with root access and then you are screwed since flashing anything that touches your kernel, boot or recovery will trip the Knox flag to which you have been avoiding for so long.

2. Control how apps behave on your phone

..Assuming you mean like setting up profiles, there are tones of Tasker like apps on the market that do this and do not require root. Doing this sort of thing with root but no real viable recovery option is pretty risky.

3. Customize your phone so you can cover up that TouchWiz ugliness

..There are thousands of free customizations and launcher that don't require root.

Don't get me wrong as I'm all about having root to do what I want. I just don't see the value in rooting a device and being limited with no ability to flash recovery, kernels or custom ruins that have the bloat safely removed already. to for customizations you can without needing too root.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 General] marquinhodsdm:
You might actually be able to flash roms

I'm kinda new at this custom ROM thing since I just got my S4 in February on AT&T, but from what I've read I think it IS possible to flash custom roms but only the ones that match your current firmware, in my case NC1. I rooted my phone with towelroot last night and I've been looking at barious threads and although you cannot just go and flash CWM or TWRP custom recoveries you should be able to flash Safestrap. http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=44251708&postcount=3

This is the only workaround the locket bootloader as of now. Safestrap is based off of TWRP and it does not trip the knox counter. However it is currently in the beta stages for the NC1 basebrand version. In theory you should be able to flash other TouchWiz roms that are 4.4.2 in the near future. At least that's my understanding of it. I like TouchWiz, and I actually don't have any problems with it, and the only things I'd want to have improve is battery life, which many custom TW roms offer.