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[G2 General] xian_online:
And IMHO hate the opposite. I hate when people on here constantly deride benchmarks, and give the 'ol "it feels smooth, and thats all that matters." garbage. I believe it is really these people who do not understand the usefulness of benchmarks. I personally, as and old school computer guy, blame it on kids with phones moving into tech only on phones, and never having real "geek" experience with a real computer. Anyone who's really tuned various computer systems for performance understands the importance of benchmarks. You can't even mention the word "benchmark" without at least one guy, usually more posting, benchmarks don't matter, yada yada yada, as long as it runs "smooth." Every time! Every time! Why do people feel this is necessary... The problem I guess stems from the fact that most people don't actually run processor intensive operations on a phone. And this gives an erroneous image of a phones performance. The truth is, a "smooth running" phone, means NOTHING to its real world performance doing actual intensive real world operations. Benchmarks don't measure the same kind of operations that scrolling through your app drawer, or opening an application use. They test continuous operations. So a "smooth" feeling phone, might actually run SLOWER then you think it actually does. There is no actual correlation between "smooth" and "fast."

If your one of those people who always feels inclined to "remind" everyone that benchmarks are useless, go back to calculators. Benchmarks are tools. They are tools that can be invaluable for trouble shooting, and debugging, and building a system in general. They are not "smoothness" indicators for how your ROM "feels." For people who both know how to use them, and interpret the results, benchmarks are very powerful. If this is not how you view benchmarks, please just use your "smooth" phone. But if the benchmark suit is doing its job properly on the OS its designed for, then those numbers do actually mean something, and are a useful metric. If your getting low benchmarks, then theoretically, yes your phone IS slower. This may or may not represent "smooth" because your not running sustained operations that really tax the system. And if this is the case, you don't need to worry about benchmarks in the first part.

Also, the issue that LG "boosts" the scores of the stock ROM, also does not account for the lower scores in ASOP ROMs. Everyone of LG's methods, can be replicated with tweaker, tuner software. So the ASOP ROM's are actually running slower, assuming there's not a bug somewhere.

To close, can we please just be able to have real discussions about benchmarks, without the "smooth" vs "benchmarker" wars. Please.
[G2 General] briketica:
Actually i don't find id snappier then with JB...more less the same with lower benchmark score and much lower battery life (dunno if it was due to kernel i was using stock JB with Dorimanx kernel)

P.S i reinstall it twice KK but both times i get strong battery drain....
[G2 General] gull_s_777:
And what do you see draining most of the battery in graphs?

Anything unusual compared to JB?
[G2 General] coburn_c:
And who but a person who only has a phone would run processor intensive applications on it? This argument is specious and contrarian. Synthetic benchmarks are regarded as peripheral by those of all backgrounds. Tweaker tuner software ey? I wasn't aware meth heads used software.
[G2 General] razrlover:
Whos making a fuss????? I second the motion of benchmark haters. I really dont give a rip what others say i use benchmark tools for me my phone my use and my tuning.

**Also gotta love people who quote kernel devs remarks about benchmarks, usually taken out of context. Why do kernels devs spend 100s of hours changing the kernel from source if its all just bs.

Why cant people who tune using whatever just be left to there own devices. I spend very little time on benchmark scores but if you read my prior post its actually about the fallacy of a well known benchmark cheating. Haters gonna hate i guess. I really dont care either way. End rant too
[G2 General] briketica:
Nothing unusual. I know some ppl complain about blutooth drain after KK update but that's not my case..

Screen... ...... 49%

Cell standby... 8%

Phone ible.......7%

Browser...........6%

Android sys.....5%

WiFi....... 4%

But i can tell you that battery duration is significantly reduced....

P. S. I use exactly the same set up and same programs...
[G2 General] gull_s_777:
Android sys usage seems very low but screen percentage is higher than JB.

I have Android system on top or second to screen, but then again i get 8h screen time so i really can't complain.
[G2 General] Rdmkr:
I guess we can all agree that benchmarks suck because you can't trust them and anecdotal reports of "smoothness" suck because you can't quantify them and they are subjective...

I compared the performance of two LG G2s side by side, one with a 4.2 rom and 36000 antutu score, the other with 4.4 and 27000 antutu score. The latter beat the former by a substantial margin at opening apps quickly.
[G2 General] Vybramo:
Before i buy lg g2 i own galaxy s4. After update i was srly frustrated how kitkat destroy that superb phone. Om screen time from 6.5 hour to 3.5 on browsing web, lover gaming performance not in benchmarks, laggy gps. I own not brandet eu edition. In mc4 fps drops from minimal 38 to 25 but pernament. 4.4.2 its not rly optimized. For many phones its possible to downgrade :/ im sorry for my english.
[G2 General] crzykiller:
Figured our problem with low benchmark scores

OK guys it was pretty simple to find out and well all you have to do is turn off MPdecision. Getting in between 36-37k on antutu constantly. Regarding battery life I'm at 37% with 5h30 minutes screen on and off the charger for 28h15 minutes
[G2 General] vPro97:
I found the real solution. Run antutu. Get result. Write it on a piece of paper. Put that piece of paper on a shelf you never use and forget about it
[G2 General] crzykiller:
Here some screenshots for proof
[G2 General] carrman17:
Stock JB worked fine for me. Multitasking and other power-extensive tasks didn't seem to slow the phone down too much. And the benchmark results only confirmed the efficiency and power of the phone. Great.

After a few days of power using after upgrading to KK I did notice a few stutters here and there. Most of it happens while multitasking so I figured it must be related to the RAM. Did my first benchmark with KK and RAM speed and operation are both down to about 60% of what They were with JB. It could have something to do with the way both OS's handle RAM. Maybe I should have done something with the cache before installing the ota. Whatever it is, the benchmark scores are good for troubleshooting. Are the lag and benchmark scores related? I believe so. Are they related on everyone's phone? Maybe not.

Benchmark scores only matter if you actually use the data from the results.

I'm not bashing on kitkat, It's still great, but on my phone it caused a few problems. Was it the fault of the OS or was it a combination of other things ? I don't know but I'll look further into it and get my phone up to where it should be.
[G2 General] vPro97:
I really find Kitkat a lot smoother and faster, and I do generally multitask a lot. I also noticed that the phone no longer heats up to 40 degrees but stays around 33-35 when I use it for extended periods of time
[G2 General] crzykiller:
And for all of you saying KitKat is slower than Jelly Bean, open up some apps and see how much faster it is ON stock ROMs so no custom kernels, I would say the settings apps opens 4x faster and pretty much everything else, not to mention battery life is better. So KitKat is a huge upgrade
[G2 General] brainbeatuk:
Crzykiller is that battery time with mp off? I did try and i got abetter benchmark myself well not 36 i got 28 instead of 22 to 25k. I am on a pro 2 rom though. Just that the cores wont turn off if i do that so wondering if that would affect battery

I use 3dmark to benchmark for gaming. Generally want cpu at 80%anyway cos if cpu gets throttled gpu does too
[G2 General] ephumuris:
Why does this thread even exist? Hasn't it been confirmed that manufacturers were cheating benchmark apps and the Kitkat update removes this cheating so you see a truer score...?

Kitkat is actually faster than JB anyway so ignore the benchmark idiocy anyway.
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
So, man, you are totally wrong. In fact you CAN quantify "smoothness", you just don't know nothing except "Antutu" word. BUT there's hellowalot of benches out there except antutu, and THE MOBILEXEPT indeed do quantify smoothness. Look there http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49092489&postcount=39
[G2 General] matheus_sc:
Benchmark dont show anything, device is more awesome With kitkat and 4k câmera
[G2 General] bercyy:
Hi all,

unfortunately Ive got the same "result" after KK update as you all. Updated 28.3. and I lost root, but what I get is schizoided benchmark results. On JB in Antutu I always had round 36,5K, but here on KK 28k- 31k. Ok someone can say "so what, its not the point".On JB in 3dMark I had round 15K but here on KK the score is 17,7K. . How is possible to get 6000 points lower score in one benchmark and get 2700 points higher score in the other one? So "thats what". The smoothness is better, no doubt" and the system speed is no limiting at all, but I wonder about the differents I have spoke before. Has someone the same experiences with 3dmark?
[G2 General] Billy Madison:
Guys, how can it be possible that who cannot read he can write comments?

Guy, did you read THIS http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50725296&postcount=12 b4 your posting?

The throttling thresholds had changed in Kitkat. Now GPU doesn't heat up quick and remain high frequency for longer period than was on JB. That's why 3DMark results upped. Also Kitkat got newer Google's OpenGL 3D drivers which too had delivered impact on GPU results.

And on Kitkat LG no more exclude Antutu from throttling list, they cheated on JB to get G2 good publicity and reviews and antutu results the same as on Note 3. That way only could they sell their G2. And on KK the cheating stopped, the CPU throttles in Antutu hence 6000 lower result. The phone became faster, but the OS begin throttle on application which it did not throttle before
[G2 General] bercyy:
Of course I did and did u read next one? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=50725296

I just share my experiences with the new KK and I dont want to read such words as u wrote. If u can read so I wrote only one question and it was not about ur answer. Next time answer question or step back, pls.
[G2 General] DREWHAMM974:
OT I know but do you play MC4 with the same name as on here?
[G2 General] crzykiller:
LOL yes i do but i stopped playing a long time ago since my main account is screwed up, guns do no damage on it for some reason O.o
[G2 General] DREWHAMM974:
Thought so, I thought I played with you a couple weeks ago.
[G2 General] bender_007:
Yeahm G2 stopped cheating on benchmarks. Note 3 is the king of cheating though. You can type "note 3 benchmark cheating" in google or "lg g2 benchmark cheating", Also someone tested and when you start quadrant, the cores are boosted to 2.26 ghz. Yesterday I've tested, the second core is uninterested mostly, the other 3 cores boost slowlly up to 2.27 if needed.
[G2 General] Rajaasim1980:
Benchmarks scores are just for feeling Good factors..oh my phone score this and that ..oh my phones beat rival phones..oh my phone is best
[G2 General] Harellevy:
Guys this is what kitkat does. It stopped the benchmark cheating. The reason you got lower scores is because in 4.2 phones knew when your running a benchmark and it went full power while in 4.4 it threats the benchmark like a normal app.
[G2 General] ingoljosh:
I am experiencing the same thing. what the heck???
[G2 General] spacemosly:
Hi

AnTuTu 4.x you get to kitkat with the g2 a smaller score but with AnTuTu 3.x is the score with kitkat 2000 points higher, the citadel benchmark, futuremark and Vellamo metal is also* higher with kitkat.

funny is that the result is significant lower in linpack.

I came to the conclusion that under kitkat on lg g2 the gpu better results brings but the cpu slightly worse.

If the GPS and the battery at Kitkat would be better then Kitkat would clearly be the better choice. Kitkat everything runs much smoother and the handling is also easier. Also the camera is in kitkat much better.
[G2 General] willi_3609:
Quadrant amazing on Malladus 2.0.2 and Dorimanx kernel 4.2!!!

I'm getting in the 24000-26000 range in quadrant. Malladus and Dorimanx work well together.
[G2 General] buenarc:
Same here...only quadrant 21150. bit disappointed. but i can get by...
[G2 General] carlos1984:
my lg g2 d803 keeps chrasking

I do not know what is going on but on my lg g2 d803 with 4.4.2 antutu crashes at the 3d test, i have tried with the latest 5.6.1 and every version back to 4.3 but it stilll crashes, I have noticed really bad scores because of this. weird part is on Quadrant it runs fine and I get 21000, but on Antutu I get,"unfortunately Antutu Benchmark has stopped" and the score is 18000.

I am trying to use this phone as a way to make my dumb tv a smart tv, the reason for this is that the screen is broke on it, a have it connect to my lcd with a slimport adapter but the video is too slow, unwatchable, sound seems to be ok. I have a bluetooth mouse hooked up but it skipps so bad. I am wondering if the reason for the slowness has something to do with why antutu keeps crashing at the 3d part?

At first I thought the slimport had something to do with it so i tried my wifes nexus 5 and it works fine, video from youtube plays smooth and the mouse does not skip.
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] s6z3r0:
Hello,

I am trying to follow the OmniRom installation guide (though my question would be the same for every new rom installation).

I own a GT-7500 and I am wondering where should I put the zip files mentioned there (rom, superuser, gapps). The installation guide says I should make a factory reset and wipe system partition. As there is no external sdcard all data would be lost if I do that, right? So how can I access these files after the wipe/reset?

TIA,

Alex
[Galaxy Tab 10.1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Soryuu:
1.) Install TWRP made for p4/P7500

2.) Put Omni, Gapps and any other zips on device storage in any folder

3.) Reboot into recovery

4.) Do a standard wipe. This will NOT wipe /sdcard (custom recoveries on the Tab don't wipe your internal storage, only stock recovery and factory reset do that).

5.) Flash as usual (pretty straightforward from here on out)
[Droid Ultra Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kcipopnevets:
I'm using GravityBox for KitKat on my Maxx and I noticed I can't change the holo menu background... Is it no longer changeable? Did Motorola do something? I also tried applying a CM transparency theme that replaces holo with your wallpaper and everything's still black. If anyone has the same issue, please join in! Any help is appreciated.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MaskedMagi:
Three announced that its 4G service has been activated for all of its customers.

Is there anyone with a G2 in Three's 4G area that has 4G signal?

Do you have to download an update first?

Thanks for the help.
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] GhostSoldier_US:
I was in a hurry so and I didn't back up.. Im have cwm recovery I have tried sideload my computer isnt recognizing my n7 I try a otg cable and It isnt letting me choose files off of it to flash. I have no rom and my computer isnt recognizing my device! How can I fix this???
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] Bobbi lim:
I have a way of fixing it but you'll lose everything in the internal storage as a result. That's by flashing factory images on it than after which you reflash recovery and your custom rom
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] GhostSoldier_US:
How can I flash the factory image if my computer isnt recognizing the n7? And im fine with loosing everything I do a back up of pictures setting etc everyday
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] mdamaged:
It's your drivers, use this as a quick-fix: http://download.clockworkmod.com/test/UniversalAdbDriverSetup6.msi, then reboot.

Use this as a more complete fix: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=50253887#post50253887
[Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A] GhostSoldier_US:
It was my drivers problem solved thank you so much!!! You saved me!!
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lordsmiff:
Hi.

Can someone please put me out of my misery because for the life of me, I can't work out how to get any decent voice control working.

The only thing that comes up when I activate voice on my headset is the useless voice dialer.

I feel sure I'm doing something wrong but I just want to be able to say something like "Play music by Metallica" (because who else would I want to listen to? :)

I had several android phones before the iPhone 4 design made me switch. I've just flogged my 5S because it was crap but I find myself missing Siri, never realising how much I used it in the car.

Help! :)

Smiffy.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BLEK0TA:
On Google play r many apps similar as siri
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamespmi:
Google Search (or better said Google Now) is your friend here. If you update to minimum Google Search 3.2.16.1006154 you can even activate your search just by saying "Ok Google". Best combination IMHO is Google Now with Google Experience Launcher, minimum vers. here is GEL 0.10.1.920880... The Play Store unfortunately doesn't serve the latest Versions. But if you type Version Numbers in Google you get several links to the corresponding APK's...

One of those: http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/02/05/google-search-updated-to-v3-2-meet-the-google-now-launcher/
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Lordsmiff:
Thanks for that :)

I have Google search version 3.2.17** currently. How do I set that to be that default responder to the voice dial command from my headset?
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jamespmi:
I'm not sure if I get your question. You have to be on your homescreen to activate Google Search by saying "OK Google" followed by for example "will I need an umbrella today". There are workarounds to activate the listening capabilities while in apps or even with a switched off screen but I'm more than happy for this "half solutions" till the full functionality will be implemented in KitKat anyways. Oh and it's only available in English for now, I'm half spanish/swiss and there is no way to use it in those languages.

If you want to give Tasker, Autovoice etc a try http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2657759
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] atavism:
Hello,

How can i upgrade my S200 to the last ROM (

ftp://xdaupload:xda@ftp.xda-develop...phet_2090724_20907106_020720_QtekWWE_Ship.exe)

Does anyone have a tutorial?!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] J.Walker:
Do you need it? Here it is:

1. Dounload the EXE file

2. connect PDA with ActiveSync

3. Run EXE file

4. Follow the screens

Pay attantion to the next: you will lost all the information exept of SD card content. If you complete backup your system and restore after update - it will lead to system unstability and errors. The best way is to reinstall al your software after upgrade and the to restore application data only.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] Gustavo_bl:
I've changed the original Qtek s200 rom to a Dopod rom.

Is possible to downgrade to the original Qtek Rom?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 Software Upgrading] karakemal:
i have the same problem. i used the dopod rom and now i cant install s200 rom. say can't update this nbf. find a newer one bla bla bla.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Melamunna:
I too have this case and find the build quality superior to otterbox. I also like the idea of the soft part being on the phone followed by a hard case protecting the outside as opposed to vice versa on the OtterBox. I will say that I may not purchase another case from them though because after buying my SG Maxx it's as if ballistic forgot they ever made them after the name change.

All in all- like I said I totally agree it's a good case, but if otterbox stops being scared of nexus devices then I would probably go that route due to the ridiculously awesome warranty (makes you feel like your money was better spent.)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Meowdib:
http://i.imgur.com/V57GksT.jpg

Good review. I have one as well. My brother's screen still cracked after a fall but he had the normal version, not the MAXX. I have dropped mine from 3 ft, no issue. I ordered a new screen protector, felt better but not optimal and I'm not using it, as you have to double tap towards the top.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Koizuma:
Thanks for the awesome review. I been rocking this same case for about a 2 weeks now. Mine is the fully black version that doesn't have a belt clip on it. I used to be an Otterbox fan, then I switched over to Diztronic for my other phones. Decided to pick this up with 2 discounts and have loved it since, by far one of the best cases I have owned yet as far as build quality goes.

Swyped from my LG Nexus 5 using XDA premium.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vyruz1986:
Nice review, thanks!

One remark: I think you're missing the point of the screen protector that comes with this case. It's really thick because it's meant to protect more than just scratches, it will(or should) protect your screen against more than just keys or coins in your pocket, for example if you drop it and lands face-down on an object.

I don't think you should consider this case as a 'daily driver', but more of a case you put on when you hiking or something, which is exactly what I'm considering it for :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] chjema:
The built in screen protector is NOT built in. You can remove it whenever you want. It is really nice. Super strong. It is not meant for daily use. I work construction and it is perfect for me.

I've dropped this phone from a distance than would of ****ed this phone up. (around 2 stories high onto asphalt) Not a single scratch on phone or case.

I use this one for work and http://www.spigen.com/nexus-5-case-ultra-hybrid.html for home./
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 911techrepair:
hello every one i have another gs3 with another boot loop issue. so on first sight the phone looks good. it will turn on and show the screen saying "samsung galaxy sIII" but after that it goes black and 3 seconds later it vibrates then another 3 seconds and it vibrates again and then 3 more seconds and the boot screen is back displaying "samsung galaxy sIII".

it will not boot in to recovery mode

, however i can get to odin mode or download mode. it has never bin rooted, and it has stock rom, but i did try rooting it throu odin mode and it failed multiple times as well as the phone would display "unsupported format"? i have seen this before and it ended up being a power button and well i tried replacing that with no effect. i also noticed that when you do try booting the phone into recovery mode it will say "recoverybooting" in blue letters at the top left hand corner but just keeps boot looping, i need to recover the data on the phone since i was going to back it up but could not do it in time lmao!!!! any help or suggestions would be appreciated, i have bin at this for days now and my chances are looking dim :crying:
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ahmedishaam:
I think you should try to install a Stock rom using odin.. and also you can try new cyanogenmode installer
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 911techrepair:
Will reinstalling the stock Tom throu odin effect the data on the phone? And what will the cygaonmode install do that I need it? Sry just took a quick look and I didn't see how it would be useful?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tallman43:
This is wrong forum any advice given here could make your phone worse! >> http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s3-t-mobile <<
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 911techrepair:
samsung boot loop

what do you mean wrong fourm??
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tallman43:
Quote "Samsung galaxy s3 t999 boot loop need help please" I gave you help to the right forum this is 19300 forum follow the link :D Or am I missing something?