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[Xperia Z2 General] nifty_mats:
But, at least Sony is providing the S801 processor. Samsung is giving the Exynos processor on the Indian S5. What crap ! S5 prices have declined to about 40k from 50k within a month.

But, my only gripe is dat Sony shud launch an LTE-enabled model in India..!![emoji45]
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
Can't find any of the phone store

branches

in sony's site for

authorised

dealers.

Just try entering in the postcodes for all those branches and you won't find them on sony's site.
[Xperia Z2 General] JSAHITA:
I think z2 is best phone I have used till now and this coming from a person. Who has used almost every flagship released in the market. I change my phones every 3 months but I think z2 would be with me a bit longer
[Xperia Z2 General] g4rvd4:
I actually pity you. There are people like you everywhere on all the forums of the world. Even if one gives proper arguments backed by facts and personal observations, it's "TROLLING" for you people. In reply not only do you not provide a single fact, but you also resort to unnecessary name calling and mud flinging. It's normal to justify your purchase, but when it comes to thinking that all other people are trolls for doubting your product, it's a psychological disorder. Get it checked.

Just for your information and others', I was one of the first people to advocate purchase for this phone. Look at the very first page of this thread, I wanted to get people together to initiate a bulk purchase (here, I'll link it for you: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51509921&postcount=8 That's right, I posted that even before you joined this forum!).

Secondly, when I began to get confused about this phone vs. the M8, I made a complete comparison (link: http://forums.androidcentral.com/htc-one-m8/377853-m8-z2-buy.html)

Thirdly, I'm a much older member here than you (Jul 2010 vs. Apr 2014) and have more posts than you. It also seems like you don't even own the phone yet. LOL! Looks like it's you who are the troll here. May I suggest you pack up and leave?

Lastly to all the other members of the forum who are willing to contribute positively to a discussion: it is a genuine query as I want a phone as a daily driver. I am sick of my current S3 being laggy and extremely frustrating. I now want a phone that has ZERO lag, since I am willing to pay the premium for it.

I am aware that the 402 update solves some part of the lag issue on the Z2, but no one here has been able to tell me whether it creates other issues relating to battery life as mentioned by other people on the General forum.

Thank you.
[Xperia Z2 General] goodpenguin:
I'm a Z2 owner and there is a slight lag with live wallpaper on. I turned it to static and it was flawless. There will be a slight lag as well when the photo widget starts loading the pictures. But it rarely happens. Overall the slight lag is not a deal breaker for me as it performs extremely well for my needs. No one can convince people to buy the Z2, M8, or S5. Just follow your guts and don't cry when the phone you choose doesn't meet your expectations. No phone will ever ever be perfect. Not even G3 is perfect as I hate the button placement on the back and it's a major deal breaker for me.
[Xperia Z2 General] sierrarohan:
Absolutely, its the matter of what a perticular person wants!! Although I have to admit that I chose Z2 because, M8 is not waterproof and 4MP UltraPixel is dissapointing and S5 with the dubious plastic body and inconsistent Octa-Core Exynos chipset. Not to mention both handsets have 2GB RAM!

A wise choice will be Z2 but its not that other 2 handsets are crap!
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
If u want performance get nexus 5.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White
[Xperia Z2 General] Ame123:
Its here in bangalore at marathahalli yes its not mentioned on the sony site but it is a authorised store.
[Xperia Z2 General] goodpenguin:
I actually tried considering S5 but when I saw the demo unit and compared it with my S2, I felt like I didn't upgrade at all because it looks exactly the same, only bigger.:D The M8's camera is a deal breaker for me and HTC as a company is still struggling and I don't want to put my investment on an unstable company so it's out as well. Z2 came at a right time so it's the best choice for me. If Z2 didn't improve the screen, I would have hold off and waited for S5 Prime and M8 Prime.
[Xperia Z2 General] Ame123:
Thank you atleast someone here is good person. In my suggestion to you is if ur ok with the ultrapixel camera on the m8 then there is no other which can beat it. The design is gorgeous and fits nicely in the hand unlike z1 which is painful after sometime. Even with only 2600mah battery it blows my z1 battery life which has a 3000mah battery. Htc releases one flagship per year and they are the very first in giving updates except the nexus line. Sony software is crap every release has bugs dont know what the hell they do after taking such a long time to release the update. Sense 6 UI is quite good. Sony has a nice camera again which is still no utilized to its full potential bcoz of software and the design of there media apps which is awesome. I have my mind the next phone will be m8 or g3 but i cant by bcoz i dnt have money :P so i am stuck with the z1. Hope my suggestion helps you.
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Z1 was not that good of a phone if u consider it with z2.U can't compare z1 and m8.

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[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
PM ME! is back protector included? :p

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Older and rusted I'd say, if you get pissed off over little things. Calm down, go ahead make your own choices. People in this thread support Z2 because they wanted an all rounder device, which is not good on just any one part but ahead of the competition overall.

Talking of issues, my Z2 is 10 days old and I have not noticed any kind of stutter or lag, in fact its faster than the Nexus tab I have, and that's on RESTRICTIVE mode in extended stamina. Also I'm on latest firmware and battery life is about 7-8 hours SOT if I don't game, and 3.5 hrs if I'm playing Injustice. I don't think any other phone except for G Flex or Note 3 reaches 6 hrs SOT.

You might find S5 faster too, simply because M8 has the most responsive screen of the bunch, S5 comes second and Z2 comes third in the world in the display responsiveness. Just like M8 has the brightest display sitting at 492 nits, S5 second 454 nits and Z2 third with 448 nits. There's no such thing as a "perfect device".
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Pmed.

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[Xperia Z2 General] Ame123:
FYI i get 6hrs sot on my z1.
[Xperia Z2 General] vasanth117:
No lash on my z2. Only Internet connection disconnect regularly and connect only after I restart. I think it was airtel issue as I cut simcard. I have to get a new micro Sim which will resolve this issue.
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
I am also using Airtel and I have no problems with internet. 3G works just fine. And yeah I have Micro SIM which I got from Airtel.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Z1 can also be counted then. :p

Mainly the phones with 3000+ mAh battery. And some others too IF they are rooted, using custom kernels and such. I talk of pure stock here, the way you get your phone out of the box.
[Xperia Z2 General] Dpk1:
Frankly, it's scorching hot over here @39-41 deg Celcius, but my Z2 battery temperature ranges 36-40 deg Celcius with normal use (including chrome browsing via wifi or 3G data, camera use excluding 4k, playing media etc). I've never had my Z2 camera app force closed due to overheating except the one time I was testing 4K video (back in .69 build). I've used camera app continuously for about 30-45 minutes yesterday while comparing it with my old Z1 camera and I had no overheating or force close issues on either of the phones. I took many snaps in auto and manual mode & one 1080p video, no 4k while testing. The phone does get warm with use but just as any other phone with a chipset as powerful as Z2 (infact my Z1 was almost 1 degree hotter than Z2 all throughout). Mind you though, I've had most of the sony bloatware disabled or uninstalled right from the scratch including the camera apps social live & info-eye, so I can't say for sure that if those might be the ones causing problem for others.

TBH, I haven't seen a single android phone over the last 4 years which has zero lag or stutters including the latest & greatest ones. The closest were / are the google nexus series. Today almost all the flagships I've seen (including the Z2, M8, S5) provide a pretty much lag free & smooth experience with the exception of the S5 (Indian version) which was annoyingly laggy at few instances. But it can perhaps be attributed to all the infamous TW bloat Samsung fills in all of it's flagships. You disable that and even the S5 flies! Coming back to our own Z2, I can only tell you that I haven't had much time with the M8 (didn't test it with a live wallpaper) but for all practical purposes and intents the Z2 is no way a laggy device. If it was then I think the general section would've been flooded with users complaining of it, just as I remember they did back in the original Z forums.

As far as the overheating after the latest update is concerned, I have no such issue and battery backup is just as good as before. IMO there are always a few people complaining about overheating after each oem update across the entire xda forums. In this case it might be due to people not full wiping the internal memory before the update. In rare cases it might be due to hardware faults.

You are free to choose the phone you like but I suggest you have a look at M8 user feedback and issues as well. Also keep in mind that HTC customer service is practically miniscule to non existent in India compared to Samsung and Sony. Good luck!
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Guys I no update for my phone.Is this normal?

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White
[Xperia Z2 General] :
Sony announces wireless charging for Xperia Z2

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/05/2...ia-z2/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Dock is better.

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[Xperia Z2 General] g4rvd4:
Bro can you do me a favor? I'm coming to Delhi next week, and I really want to see the device (I mean a non display piece) so that I know how the phone performs in real life. So can we meet somewhere in Delhi so that I can take an informed decision?

I've posted this same request for someone in mumbai but till date no one has responded.
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
Interesting, forgot to ask how it compared with Z1 but you did anyway :)

One of the reviewers was very disappointed with the force closes. Closing 8 times in 10 minutes. He is on the .69 build. He also had an audio sync issue when recording with 4k. When gaming for twenty minutes he used a IR thermometer and found the back touching 50 degrees. The N5 heats up a lot (40-45 typically) but never touched 50. For reference, 40 degrees is when it starts to get uncomfortable to hold, 50 degrees will be almost painful. No way to use it without a case and he prefers not to use a case so heating will be more obvious for him. I note that Sony bundled the case inside the box this time, sony really, really wants you to have that case.

What would people here recommend he do ? He is on the .69 build. At this point in time he feels uncomfortable to recommend the Z2 when almost every other reviewer has given Z2 a good review.

I'm uncertain whether its a manufacturing defect. Something is getting it to warm up more than usual and this indirectly stops the camera from working.

One of his viewers said this happens at the beginning and after some time it just goes away. Apparently the cache gets to rebuild after three or more recharge cycles.

This is the sort of thing he would baulk at, a premium device should not require the user to disable stuff to get it to work better. It should work acceptably out of the box like any other really. Acceptably meaning camera not force closing excessively compared to others.

AFAICT he has not updated the firmware yet.

I take it you mean the .402 update ?

The firmware numbers are a bit confusing when i compare with

ptcrb

. The .69 build isn't even mentioned for d6502.
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
Does being an older member necessarily make you better ? Absolutely not! and quite evident from your reply.

You are saying as if being an older member you have more rights here! Get over your self obsessed attitude.

You're accusing that as I have not bought z2(till now) i'm a "troll" ?

The very same statement applies to you too than! Get a Z2 first and than cry.

For your kind info Mine is coming on 17th june(my last exam day).

As for who is wrong and who isn't please read the real life experience of Z2 by owners here.

None of them is acting like you. All are saying it's super fast.

I just hope you get a perfect phone for your needs and have a nice day :)
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Chill guys lets not fight over phones.Phones are meant to be enjoyed not fought for.

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[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
I can see on that, which area will you be visiting? Feel free to PM me. You can also ask other members from Delhi too. :p
[Xperia Z2 General] :
again my mobile is tested by sony service center and the senior officer of sony called me today.. he said its software related issue, very few people experience this issue.. june 2nd week new firmware is coming for Z2.. it will solve the pblm for those who have sound issues
[Xperia Z2 General] Dpk1:
What my first suggestion to this reviewer would be to try using the camera without any SD card. I've seen people complaining about overheating issues and camera force closes when using the external sdcard (as default camera storage) in the Z1 forums ever since the kitkat update / release. And this is not restricted to sony flagships only but also complained by nexus and Samsung users too. I had overheating issues myself when I first updated my Z1 to kitkat, but after formatting the sdcard (64gb sandisk class 10) using windows pc & phone settings & then transferring back all the media files using default MTP mode (usb), these issues were resolved for me. Phone getting hot for first time after an update or clean install of android rom is normal since there are android processes like "media server" app trying to acess and read all the media files on external (& internal) sd card. But in case of any corrupt file such app might go rogue & hence unusual overheating / battery drain (esp on standby) & app force closes. This has been discussed in details in the Z1 forums & the reason why I'm saying all this here is that I think a few Z2 users seemingly complain of similar symptoms. Hence, formatting the external sd card & copying back the files from scratch might help them.

Yes, by the latest update I mean .402 update (as reflected in my signature).
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
What is the sound issue can u tell me.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White
[Xperia Z2 General] sandy.parulekar:
update

Guys, i just got notification for 17.1.1.A.0.402 update via OTA

Is there any problem to update via OTA??
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Even I wanna know if there is a problem updating via ota.

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[Xperia Z2 General] :
Static And Hissing Noise during calls.. as i told u before i updated latest firmware.. factory reset.. ticked and unticked call and sound settings checked with proper signal tried with 3 more network simcards.. problem remains..
[Xperia Z2 General] Dpk1:
You should definitely have been offered a new replacement by sony in that case. Call quality issues in a 50k smartphone is plainly unacceptable. I suggest you to check another Z2 unit by placing your sim card in it & then see if that too has any such issue. And if you're convinced that it's just your device then do escalate the issue to sony india (by emailing them or calling the toll free no.) & I'm sure they'll help you in getting the replacement. Good luck!

P.S - BTW, call quality on my Z2 is top notch. I'm on airtel prepaid 3G network.
[Xperia Z2 General] :
i have tried everything.. they are not ready to take my mobile for replacement.. finaly i have told them i wil deal this pblm with consumer court, then only senior officer called and convinced me to stay calm until june 2nd week.. if the pblms remains he said he wil replace the phone..
[Xperia Z2 General] g4rvd4:
Have PMed you. I don't see any other Delhi members. If you can't meet and know anyone else who might be able to, let me know Ok..

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Bro if I was coming over here to troll about some phone I would have created a new ID. My questions apply on my pending decision to choose a phone, so what point would it serve to get the z2 and then cry?

Anyway chill, it doesn't seem like you're understanding my point anyway, so let's time out and call it a day.
[Xperia Z2 General] azharshaikh7866:
On every flagship phone forum i find indian user thread.....it seems indians r more active....it is always on top whenever i open general section...

Proud

I checked for battery performance by far our z2 is leading.....

Edit: updated to.402........... Just 150mb ota update
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Just checked the WCR12 wireless charging cover price and it will be around 5K. Why the case is so damn expensive :mad:

Well here is the link : http://www.mobilefun.com/44848-sony-xperia-z2-wcr12-wireless-charging-cover-black.htm
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Updated to .402 and it 150mb on ota.

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[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
y so late. bro..update was available from last week itself...?

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i think 3.5k wld be nice also we have to buy charging plate...damn...
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Showed up today.

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[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
I already have a charging plate. You can get the plate from Mugen site at around 1700rs. I hope someone releases aftermarket (mugen, nillkin) case having wireless charging.
[Xperia Z2 General] sierrarohan:
Updated to. 402 via OTA! PC companion was telling me to install a hotfix and when I tried to install it, it said it's not compatible with my system!!:confused::D

Feeling the improved performance and the most notable change is Audio reproduction in games is now much better, without that 1-2 sec. Lag as somebody mentioned. Also the incosistency in audio output, especially volume drop and choking is now completely gone! Happy with the new update!!
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Guys just saw Amazon.in selling 32 gb SanDisk ultra for 1314 if anyone is intrested in deals.

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[Xperia Z2 General] jass619:
Hey z2 users! I will be getting my phone in a few days :) ......I want some USER reviews about the phone overall and also about the overheating issue... Does it happen even when using heavy games or apps?? Or its only when using 4k rec. ??

Or is it fixed after an update or so??

Thanks !
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
During normal use also you can feel upper part near camera heating but during heavy games gets kinda more warm and using 4K it shuts down after few mins..also AR effect cause shut down when camera is heated...

but its kinda acceptable for SD 801 to heat...i dont mind even my ZL used to heat a bit..
[Xperia Z2 General] kumar abhishek:
[MENTION=2784807]DooMLoRD[/MENTION] any leaks out for Z3?

[emoji12]
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Well, after using it for almost 2 weeks I can tell it does get warm. I didn't notice it at first because I'm usually in the AC. :angel: But still wouldn't call it "hot".
[Xperia Z2 General] goodpenguin:
That also happened to me. I installed using the Sony Update program from Sony website. PC Companion is not compatible with win 8.1. The live animation is smoother now and touchscreen is more responsive. Notification sound is still one speaker but i think it's louder now. Will observe it further.
[Xperia Z2 General] anmolbedi:
Got Xperia z2 today... 45.5k Noida... Black colour. Looks great.
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Congrats bro.

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[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
From authorized Sony centre ?

And congratz :)
[Xperia Z2 General] jass619:
After reviewing a lot b/w HTC one m8 and Sony xz2, I decided to go with the Sony Xperia z2. I got it in black colour. First impression is awesome! This is my first flagship phone. Just loving it :)
[Xperia Z2 General] anmolbedi:
Yes, from an authorised Sony dealer.
[Xperia Z2 General] azharshaikh7866:
What about gaps??
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Welcome to the brotherhood.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Xperia Z2 General] Sachinfan:
i am really disappointed with sony here w.r.t to the hardware issues people are facing on this otherwise excellent smartphone. Especially the heating issue which is amply highlighted here [YOUTUBE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11tal2UUDl8[/YOUTUBE].

I mean if the camera is gonna shut down after < 1min of video recording .................what's the use?

Software issues are understandable as android allows you so many customizations that it is impossible to test every app and every custom-roms before release.

But this gap issues, the front speakers getting faulty and especially the phone over-heating after few seconds of video recording or 10-15 mins of gaming is in-excusable for a brand like sony.

Probably, i will have to buy one m8 now......:(
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
My battery from first charge .402

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
Another day, another one!

Phew...

Now let me list the issues your precious m8 has - SIM slot failure, self cracking camera lens, blown out speakers, multiple dead pixels on screen, speakers and screen not flush together properly(causing huge usage issues), paint on back coming off especially gun metal version, scratches from day one and what not.

I don't even remember some of the issues right now.

So please just buy whatever phone you want. Stop acting like if m8 is God made and has no issues.

If you do have time than go xda m8 forums and you will realise that minimum one out of three m8's has one or other issues.

Just take a look at this thread. Only 2-3 users at maximum here had any kind of issue with z2 .

Even Erica Griffin had two faulty M8 units before getting a proper faultless unit.
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Agreed

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[Xperia Z2 General] kumar abhishek:
Nc headset on ebay India [emoji41][emoji4]

http://m.ebay.in/itm?itemId=271505172363
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
So what are your observations after update ? Is battery life better/worse OR same as earlier ? :confused:
[Xperia Z2 General] Mahesh89:
LOL Alcatels Smart band RIP OFF

A total RIPOFF of Sony's SmartBand n thy call it as BOOM BAND :p

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[YOUTUBE]D2hohab4zl8[/YOUTUBE]​
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
For me it's better.I feel I could have gotten around 10 hrs straight screen on with the charge easy.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Xperia Z2 General] Sachinfan:
To any neutral observer my post would look of someone who is upset at not being able to buy z2 because of z2's short-comings than "htc's fanboy" attacking your dear phone. It is regrettable that it touched a sensitive cord.....
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
How ? It's only 8% left in the screenshots above and screen on time is 6 Hrs
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
See how many hours it was used for.What I meant was on full charge I can get 10 hrs sot

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[Xperia Z2 General] sandy.parulekar:
After update as per my observation battery discharged quickly.
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
Your Eyes Fail to see the shortcomings of M8 ! :rolleyes:

#YoSachinFanSoNeutral :p