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[Xperia Z2 General] kantk20111:
Another thing: DPReview, a well respected photography site, gave the Z1 a 7.8 score in their review. This is compared to 8.1 for the GS4, and iPhone 5s and 7.5 for the HTC One,

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/9705313773/sony-xperia-z1-camera-review?page=11

GSMArena rated the Z1's camera 3rd in this comparison.

http://www.gsmarena.com/six_way_camera_shootout-review-998p10.php

PhoneArena put the Z1 in 2nd after the 1020 in this comparison.

http://www.phonearena.com/reviews/C...laxy-S4-LG-G2-Nokia-Lumia-1020-HTC-One_id3500

If there was really a serious problem with the camera lens then it wouldn't be getting these good reviews as well. The software is just really inconsistent.

edit:

I really don't understand why you are trying so hard to find a problem with Sony's lens. It's a SOFTWARE issue. There's nothing to find out about here. IF it was a hardware issue then I would be seeing a pattern in all my photos rather than some of my photos being hit by these inconsistencies. I have not seen anything on the internet relating to Z1's hardware being poor. If it was a hardware problem then I would not be getting much better results in manual mode. The problem would've existed even in manual. That is NOT the case. Read my previous post for an explanation:http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50768065&postcount=25
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
Yeah, besides [MENTION=5187501]naga.nino[/MENTION]'s GSM Arena comparison where it's clearly visible on the Z1 Compact, DPreview also points out areal softness out (on the Z1). "If you zoom into the Sony's huge 20.7M images close-up the results look a little disappointing, despite the sensor that at 1/2.3 inches is larger than on most competing smartphones. At a 100% view the Sony images show a lot of noise and processing artifacts, even at low ISOs. ... Despite the strong processing the Z1 is capable of resolving a lot of detail in central areas of the frame but the closer you get to the edge the more detail is lost to corner softness which, combined with noise and noise reduction, does not make for pleasant close-up viewing."

Erica Griffin also on the lens soft spots on the Z1 Compact:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7tQ5n32no8&feature=youtu.be&t=12m6s
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
OMG yeah possibly the most obsessive reviewer on the planet :rolleyes:

I think a more serious issue that could be HARDWARE related is the flash bleed on the Xperia compact , does the Z1 have the flash bleed problem Bone?

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Totally agree you ;) , if there was a serious hardware problem with the lens then there would have been a recall or some sort of mass descent from customers over this, but there just isn't.
[Xperia Z2 General] kantk20111:
Yes, the Z1 does have noise problems. That's why superior auto/BIONZ processor tries over processes the images later, causing these blurs.. It's trying to make up for the noise in the image, and is overeager in doing so. In manual mode, the pictures are VERY sharp albeit a bit noisy. At 21MP the noise is more because of the increased megapixel count. At 8MP because of downsampling the noise level is still acceptable. Erica Griffin's probably seeing that in action, but if there were soft spots due to the lens then it should be on EVERY picture that is taken.

No one is saying that there is not a problem with some of the Z1's pictures. What no one is saying is that it's a hardware problem. If it was then (and I'm repeating myself here) I would be seeing these soft spots in every picture and also in about the same spot in the picture. That does not happen. As others have said, if it was a hardware problem then more reviews would be stating it is, but again, that's not the case. Most people agree the Z1's camera is good but not as good as it could be due to the poorly optimized software.
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
Yet they didn't recall the Compact with the flash bleed nor fixed G-softness GSMA, Polish site, DPreview, Erica Griffin or XDA posters pointed out. It's still there on the Z1 Compact and you can spot in this Z2 reviewer's samples too.

[YOUTUBE]IJquEOrTj1Y[/YOUTUBE]

Quit saying it's a non-issue, such responses are only gonna convince Sony to do nothing about it when they should be getting rid of it.
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
:laugh: Couldn't have picked a worse review if you tried, how many facts can you get wrong in one review and it's a review unit :rolleyes:

"buggy superior auto mode" SOFTWARE ISSUE....NOT hardware

That's because it's not in all units.....how many did they sell? How many complaints were there?
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
Just stop, okay? This is an image sample based conversation about a known and well documented issue on Sony G-lens smartphones, open an "everything is all right" thread if you like, just stop going off topic here. Don't reply to this. Thank you.
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Excellent points & succinctly put.
[Xperia Z2 General] gavinfabl:
I owned the Z1 and it does suffer from issues described. However the Z2 is different marginally so really there is no point going overboard with the Z1.

However I'm not over optimistic Sony will have fixed it in the Z2 but you never know.
[Xperia Z2 General] faraaz3:
Bro nice topic to discuss...100 % it's the faulty image processing in Sony...

One thing I wish Sony should do "GIVE RAW IMAGE SUPPORT " IF they r unable to get it right....developers on xda rock
[Xperia Z2 General] MSIOCGenie:
I think the issues that Bone points out are definitely worth discussing. But perhaps getting in touch with a Sony rep and asking them the same questions, linking to the samples could give us some real answers? If it really is a software issue, why is it not solved by now? If that's the case then I seriously doubt Sony's capabilities of making decent camera software.
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Yes the issue is worth pointing out , however it's slightly premature in the Direct case of the Xperia Z2 because Sony have NOT even released the phone yet and the images shown are those of early software and really poor examples & until it's fully released with final software and/or Sony have resovled the issue, we cannot make an accurate judgement on the Xperia Z2's G-lense :rolleyes:

When the xperia Z2 is released and if we have conncrete evidence that the g-lense in the Z2 has the same problem I will accept it & will be one of the first on the phone directly to Sony to complain.
[Xperia Z2 General] gavinfabl:
The Xperia blog has photo samples of the Z1 versus the Z2 and the Z2 is considerably better. I have the Z1 Compact for review at the moment and it's much better than the Z1.
[Xperia Z2 General] faraaz3:
Z1 compact camera better than z1? ???? :-/
[Xperia Z2 General] Ame123:
Idnt think the images i have taken with my z1 has the edge softness prblms but my old z1 had the prblms i have got a replaced new z1 now which dsnt has the prblm
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
No not better, both will be upgraded to Kitkat soon and with firmware updates also on the way they should all be on a par with each other.

other than the camera ,One specification that is better on the compact is the IPS LCD display, better viewing angles , sharper images & better colour pallet.

Depends what size you like your mobile, I personally was going for the Z1 compact, but changed my mind when I saw the Z2 ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] ascariss:
There is nothing wrong with the G lens on the device, all the first reviews of the Z1 which stated the camera was weak or blurry in some parts were all pre-production models not running production software and most sites didn't go back to review production units with final and improved camera software.

Current sample images from z2 are also probably off pre-production devices so not final software, I've already seen 2 different camera firmware's f120 and f200 on the z2 photos and the f200 firmware clearly is a step above anything on the z1 so far, especially in noise performance.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/08/xperia-z2-low-light-sample-pictures-from-the-streets-of-tokyo/

the xperia blog shows this quite nicely, some of those shots are pretty high ISOs, the crosswalk sign is iso800 and there is minimal noise which is nuts, considering the z1 has insane noise at 200 and above. The shot of the taxis and bus is ISO1000 and it has really good noise performance vs the z1. This clearly demonstrates that the camera software in the Z2 has matured or at least moved a lot more forward compared to the updates the Z1 camera software received.

More images here, it includes the tokyo pics.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2673226

But again this software is not final as can be seen here, f200 software

http://www.ringhk.com/news2.php?id=8285

some of the shots are a bit more blurry vs the z1 photos which are sharper but again this can be fixed.

In your original photo you pointed out a few places on the photo that are more blurry than the rest and I agree, this is not acceptable but the original z1 reviews stated a right sided blur which people said was due to a flaw in the lens. But this flaw is not apparent on all photos meaning it probably was a software issue rather than hardware.

Therefore the same issue is most likely present here as mentioned by others, software still not 100% final. Bionz for the z1 when released was no where near what it should have been, in fact it still isn't anywhere as good as what sony states. The Z2 is Bionz mark 2, and has much more improved performance and will no doubt be a much better product once the production units are released.

As for the Barcelona shots you posted, they are unfortunate and not acceptably but then browsing them I noticed one thing, they are in a helicopter and the user is shooting the photos not using only the Sony but also though the windows of the helicopter which adds another factor in front of the lens which can distort the image.

I'd wait for production models and production sample images and not basing off pre-production models.
[Xperia Z2 General] gavinfabl:
Yes. The Z1 Compact is taking much better photos than my Z1.

And I didn't have a pre production Z1 as noted above but there were rumours the first batch had faulty optics.

All I know is I've been using the Z1 Compact all day today and the quality in superior auto mode has been good.

The Z2 is meant to be even better. A lot better so let's hope so. I won't rush out and buy it. I will wait to see the results first.
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Yes I agree it is taking better photos, but it is NOT a better camera, it's the same.

it's just the compact has updated firmware/software ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] gavinfabl:
Lol indeed ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] pepeo123:
at first i thought that the problem was with the G lenses so it wouldnt be possible to fix it. since some reviews had issues with it and others havent i thought that it was a production proccess problem, the lack of unifomity on the batches that affected some devices and other not

but after reading this thread and searching in some reviews i am starting to think that its really a software related problem

take a look at these pics

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/sony-xperia-z1-compact/review/camera/gsmarena_012.jpg

http://cdn.gsmarena.com/vv/reviewsimg/sony-xperia-z1-compact/review/camera/gsmarena_014.jpg

they were taken ath the exact same place and position. the first is in superior auto and the second is in normal mode but with HDR

as you can notice, the parking lot, the mall and the trees at the left side of the building are completely blurred in the first picture. but on the second one they are not

of course this is far from being a scientific analysis or a definitive proof, but this could show that sony's algorithm is messing even with the camera focus
[Xperia Z2 General] chesterr:
They really need to fix this issue fast, I don't understand what's really taking them so long to push an update to fix the damn problem in SA, which should let the normal user to take a photo in current situation. Not all the people are techy and when they start comparing the photos with other phones, they are disappointed cause it doesn't do the great job which HTC's 4MP camera does.
[Xperia Z2 General] BoneXDA:
A photo from Clove review, click on the image.

http://blog.clove.co.uk/2014/03/11/sony-xperia-z2-review/

Unfortunately even at 8MP, getting toward the edges and softness creeps in. Not the greatest conditions admittedly, but that's what we got, and edges are again softer than the middle.
[Xperia Z2 General] Chad_Petree:
:( :( I guess I'm gonna wait too to see if all the phones have the same issue or if only some of them are having this issue

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Xperia Z2 General] AngryDinosaur:
Coming from samsung note 2 to z2 will be a huge improvement for me. No worries here ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] Chad_Petree:
I personally only take 16:9 pictures , and to be able to do so with the Z2 I would have to choose 15 MP.... a 8 MP (16:9) picture should look identical to a 15 MP (16:9) picture , if I see them on my retina macbook pro, or a UHDTV because the screen resolution is inferior or close to 8 MP , but way inferior to 15 MP, so when the pictures fill the screen, they should look identical , right?

I still don't understand how "downsampling" difers from simple resizing :(
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] libb:
Hi, I cannot found information if S5 has wireless charging and if has, it is natively of is required a special cover as on S4?
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ITNV:
One of the speakers at the release event said it would support wireless charging. Based on this site: http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/127512-samsung-galaxy-s5-accessories-first-look-at-s-charger-pad-s-view-cover-more it looks like it will require a replacement back like the S 4.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] libb:
Thank you for the info. I can only hope that also classic cover would available because the cover on photos is terrible.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] michintom:
Should support it.

I already ordered two qi charging pads and the back cover from mobilefun.

https://www.mobilefun.com/44068-off...s5-s-view-wireless-charging-cover---black.htm
[Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Arthur Hucksake:
Hi folks,

Has anyone actually got the speakerphone to function on this phone?

Talking to several different people now, they struggle to hear me. It's almost as if the sound cuts out, and it's held pretty close to my face.

I often need the speakerphone while i'm busy doing other things and it seems impossible with this handset.

Not sure what I am doing wrong. Have tried all kinds of settings.
[Xperia Z1 Compact Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] LaizyJumper:
You are not the only one, I've got the same complaints.
[Nokia X] hapticc:
Here we can discuss all Nokia X series Indian related queries and questions
[Nokia X] Mrtoxicgamer10:
A Thread to Indian users before even it's available for purchase here ? o.O
[Nokia X] imranaryan:
i am interested to buy Nokia XL any info on price and availability
[Nokia X] Mrtoxicgamer10:
Nokia XL will be available for purchase in India for Rs. 9,500 (approx.) in Q2 (April,May,June) of this year.
[Nokia X] imranaryan:
i hope its april.. coz may or june would be too long.. thinking to gift one to my sister
[Nokia X] tanx:
Price of X and X+

whats the price of X & X+???? I am thinking of getting X+...They say X is immediately available but their website says coming soon.....
[Nokia X] Mrtoxicgamer10:
Nokia X+ will be available in April, May (or) June for 99 Euros and Nokia X will be available this month for purchase in India.
[Nokia X] ashis.kyal:
Nokia will be most probably the sponsor of the IPL in which they will be launching these Nokia android devices hopefully

Sent from Sony Xperia SP :)
[Nokia X] harishke:
any estimation on price tag of these devices
[Nokia X] Mrtoxicgamer10:
I think you should read above replies before you post a reply. However, Nokia X+ and Nokia XL will be available in April, May (or) June for 99 Euros and 109 euros and Nokia X will be available this month for purchase in India for 89 Euros.
[Nokia X] lorara:
Nokia XL android phone is worthy to buy ,of course

of course,Nokia XL android phone is worthy to buy ,what's the specs of this android phone?
[Nokia X] inunxelex:
[ASK] Nokia XL product code

Does anyone know what is the product code number for Nokia XL ?
[Nokia X] ashis.kyal:
Will You search zauba with that code?

Sent from Sony Xperia SP :)
[Nokia X] Deadpool:
Hey [MENTION=2550899]hapticc[/MENTION]

Check thread title.

There is a misspelling.

Offician instead of official.

Sent from my bloody katana.
[Nokia X] ashis.kyal:
Themobilestore has listed nokia x in there website [MENTION=2353651]8500[/MENTION]

Sent from Sony Xperia SP :)
[Nokia X] justmpm:
Hi Everyone,

I did a little thread cleaning. Please remember that this is a thread in General and that the device has not been officially released. Discussions on availability and pricing in India are allowed and should not be flamed or trolled. Also please remember to always post respectfully...

Thanks!
[Nokia X] inunxelex:
no, i want to download stock rom for Nokia XL from navifirm :D
[Nokia X] akp.ajinkya:
Here's the unboxing and short review video and benchmarking video of Nokia X done by me:

Unboxing and review:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WiYiGmPvnkI

Benchmarking:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=It9VAqapUww

If the OP finds it useful,it can be added to the original post.

M too an indian :highfive:
[Nokia X] gauravbhawsar:
hey pplz yday got my X..strange issue faced dAt it automatiucally answers call wen in pocket.....anybody else facin d same...if yes how to turn it off......
[Nokia X] faraaz3:
Dude y india price expensive than other countries
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] grokos:
Is there a way to keep the light of the keyboard a bit longer?

Can i do something via registry?

Thanks
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ZeBoxx:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] grokos:
Best...thanks.

Now, the second question.....and most usefull for me.

Can we keep the keyboard light on all the time when the device is under charging?

This could be perfect for inCar use while charging.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] grokos:
Nothing ???.. :?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] diopan:
I'm looking for this answer since long time... and, even if I didn't find the answer, I'm glad I found somebody having my same question (even if some months ago)! ... better than nothing ...it's a start.

So anyone knows how to keep the keyboard light always on when device is on charge?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] skywriter:
i wish you could change the color :)

for colorblind (red/green blind) people RED is useless.

PLEASE STOP USING RED FOR ANYTHING!

thanks!

Sky
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] diopan:
:shock: I don't know if you mean the red on the flag, the red of vodafone logo or the red of the keyboard... but I will change all of them if you find the answer! :lol:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] gooroo:
I changed it to 65535 and the registry editor seemed to accept it, I make that about 18 hours before it times out, nice thing is it still goes out and stays out if you power down, but it goes out and comes back on if you close.

Regards
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vijay555:
I've written an app to give independant control of the keyboard lights (and red/green keys), manual on, manual off.

However, gooroo's solution sounds like a better workaround.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Viper®:
Still looking for a solution for this one too.

I don't think I can use the change timeout to 65000, because my device doesn't autoswitchoff (disabled that) because the BT keeps f*cking up.

So after 30 sec my backlight just turns off, the device keeps on. Setting the keyboard timeout to 65000 would kill my battery cause it will always be on.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vijay555:
Viper, so what do you propose? You don't want to extend timeout?

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Viper®:
I've always had set it to 30/60 seconds.

I think the problem is that wm5 doesn't support keyboard backlight like the normal backlight (which has settings for battery/AC)

just trying 65000sec and see if that works a bit. But I have to see if it doesn't drain the battery and all.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Viper®:
-update-

Ok this option works perfect for me.

And yes changing the value to 65000 will let your keyboard light be on permanently (practicaly then)

But your keyboard light auto-switches off when your Backlight does.

So in the car it's on power, so this will keep the backlight on full brightness + always keyboard lights

on battery the backlight goes out after 30 sec and so will the keyboard. But when i touch the screen both will jump on.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] andrebernardo:
Is there a way to keep the light of the keyboard a bit longer in HTC Artemis/P3300?

Thanks
[Sony Xperia M2] hapticc:
Xperia M2 Indian users thread for discussion of price, availability and other questions relating to Indian Users

Xperia M2 Specification

4.8" qHD display

Snapdragon Series 400 Quad-core processor clocked at 1.2GHz

1GB RAM

8GB Internal Storage

Extenal Storage Option

2G and 3G

dual band Wifi a/b/g/n

Bluetooth 4.0

GPS and NFC

Android 4.3 Jellybean

8MP camera with flash

Front Camera

USB OTG and USB HOST

2300mAH battery

It is expected to launch in mid march in India at a price of 16000

For More Info Visit Source

UPDATE: Sony Xperia M2 launched at INR 21900
[Sony Xperia M2] parthsony2000:
I am planning to buy it
[Sony Xperia M2] doctor_droid:
[MENTION=2550899]hapticc[/MENTION] - device has been price for 25000 INR ...

OR 289£ or $399

Extremely overpriced...

I would rather buy a xperia sp which is far better than this for a lesser price...
[Sony Xperia M2] faraaz3:
I don't think abroad prices translate directly ...we may have it for lesser price
[Sony Xperia M2] doctor_droid:
We always have been getting the phone for a higher price than the first world countries...:p

Whether it be moto g or others...
[Sony Xperia M2] hapticc:
No it wont be priced that high in India it will probably be priced below Xperia C or max at the cost of Xperia C i.e 18990 currently
[Sony Xperia M2] koolkunz:
People tend to forget the fact that Xperia C uses a MediaTek CPU which is not comparable to Qualcomm Snapdragon
[Sony Xperia M2] hapticc:
You are also forgetting that mediatek CPU outperformed qualcomm quad core 200 series with huge margin. it uses same Gpu found in iphone and is faster too than qualcomm Cpu found in quantro and core. Its not about CPU company people tend to forget technology behind it. Arm v5 cpu of qualcomm vs arm v7 cpu of mediatek makes that huge difference.

Qualcom 400 series gpu is mid range cpu i.e found in moto g with adreno 305 gpu. It similar to dual core cpu found in xperia m but with 2 extra cores and higher clock speed. Its performance will be on par with mediatek mtk6589 series of cpu but with optimiZation from qualcomm will work more efficiently.

China doesnt mean bad quality afterall most of these products are manufactured in china only. Recently gameloft has also jpined hands with mediatek to optimise games and recent example is optimisation of modern combat 4 for mtk6592 processor. I hope now you might be clear about the quality of mediatek cpu as they are new future of mid range devices
[Sony Xperia M2] koolkunz:
If you want to go for MediaTek only...then why not go for Micromax,Lava etc.. They have recently launched OCTA CORE devices for the 20k range

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Xperia M2 has a Cortex A7 processor only....better camera than xperia c more internal storage... so m2 will be priced more than c
[Sony Xperia M2] hapticc:
That time will tell price anyways xperia m2 is better than mmx and lava because they have no finishing touch to phone. Sony and Htc phones are crafted to perfection
[Sony Xperia M2] koolkunz:
A direct competitor for M2 is HTC Desire 610 which has better looks...I'll buy whichever is cheaper