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[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
I guess, that guy needs some gyaan :P
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
I really feel that z2 is better than competition in every way.They have still priced it not more than competition which is great

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True nobody is perfect.Are u perfect?

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[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
Dude, you are not understanding. HTC is know for overpricing their phones. I would have bought htc one m8 [It also has lte chip] by now except for their dual crap pixel. It's clearly know fact that Z2<S4<M8 [Pricing].

The R&D of the other two smartphone are big and they take lot of money. There is no justification for pricing it more than other two smart phones.
[Xperia Z2 General] nizam1:
How is it 'fact' that the Z2 is cheaper than the S5 and the M8 ? It is quite clearly not a 'fact' because it is being released at the same price. You were hoping/expecting that it was going to be cheaper based on past experiences but it is definitely not a fact.

It appears that you think the Z2 is a worse phone than the S5 and M8 and that is why you think it should be cheaper. Most people in this thread would disagree with you I think. It's on par if not better than the other two phones. If Sony believes that as well, their pricing is justified. They don't give a damn about you and me. Market conditions dictate their price.

Also its a simplistic assumption to make that there is R&D on the other two and not on the Sony. The new screen, the bravia tech, the built in noise cancellation, the water proofing technology would all cost a bomb in R&D.

You are entitled to you opinion though bro:good:
[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
I never said Z2 is a worse phone.

By R&D, I mean, just find out how much both samsung and htc invests in R&D of their smartphone. I am sure it's twice of what sony does. I like the fact that Sony's timescape ui is closer to Stock android. I appreciate the 'no bull****' strategy of sony. Where as other manufacturers spend alot.

http://www.talkandroid.com/182654-samsung-will-commit-half-of-its-rd-to-improving-touchwiz/

To know more about the market price and cost

Read this article:

http://gizmodo.com/5714618/how-much-your-smartphone-cost-to-build-an-interactive-breakdown

FYI I love nexus devices. Because of google's 'no bull****' policy, and they price it right too. It's would be stupid to expect nexus pricing. Take 10k more for advertising, R&D and design engineers. I feel that Z2 should be launched at 45k for the first week. Later it should be priced around 40k. That's the worth of the phone.
[Xperia Z2 General] pandurang_m:
Z2 listed in flipkart.
[Xperia Z2 General] nizam1:
I agree with you regarding the merits of Z2 but how are you sure of the companis' R&D costs ? For all you know, Sony might be spending a lot more now considering they have to catch up to samsung regarding technology and market share.

In any case, I'm not arguing the worth of the phone. It could be worth only 25k to Sony but they would still price it at a comparable price to the HTC One and S5 as its their main competition. That is depressing.
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
well there you are hit the bulls eye...;)
[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
I had come across an article on GSMarena a year ago. If I am not wrong samsung spends nearly 1b on R&D, followed by apple and HTC and LG are third and fourth runner ups.

Sony always priced their phone 'right'- Not more not less. Except this time :(
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
What?

Z2 is ahead where it matters.

- Larger more vivid display

- 3GB RAM

- 3200 mAh battery

- Waterproofing

- Digital Noise Cancellation built in

- A good, premium feel on the device which fits just perfectly in hand
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
well people started filling pages...no offense people
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
where?? Link pls!!
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
where bro ..i didn't find..just now searched

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Well i got it but price NA...Coming Soon!!!

http://www.flipkart.com/sony-xperia...y+z2&ref=662f802c-d414-4b6c-9a26-550eeb8121c5
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
where's white????
[Xperia Z2 General] pandurang_m:
White model

http://www.flipkart.com/sony-xperia...id=MOBDVW6S839SFYDD&otracker=browse&pageNum=4
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
THANKS!! :D
[Xperia Z2 General] pandurang_m:
Black, white and purple all listed in flipkart

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Fast and Furious Z2
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Good times

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[Xperia Z2 General] :
my middle finger salutes crapsung and their s**t fans:D
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
its because nobody gives damn about plastic and super metal crap pixel
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
What's meant by NC headphones(Bundling Option) ???

One has to pay extra money above 50k for these? OR are they optional and included in this price itself ?
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Only time will tell.
[Xperia Z2 General] pandurang_m:
Launch delayed by 1 hour. ? The website earlier was showing 12 now it shows 1:00pm
[Xperia Z2 General] kartoonz:
hah... i'm gonna get up late tomorrow...:silly:
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
That price is totally Unjustified!

What price will we have to pay for Z3 - 60K ? Z4 - 70 K ? Z5 - 80 K ? When will this crap END ?

I do not crticize htc OR crapsung because i don't care abt them. . . I will always show them middle finger no matter how much they price their phone.

Waiting for tomorrow's official launch, if it's actually priced 50k than I MIGHT EVEN HAVE TO LOOK AT OTHER OPTIONS.

One question - Do these small/minor improvements in Z2 over Z1 justify a premium of 15-17K over z1 ? I think it doesn't justify AT ALL.

What do you guys think ?
[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
That's my point too. 50k for non lte phone. When a company like HTC is selling an lte phone :(
[Xperia Z2 General] DooMLoRD:
hold ur horses and wait for official price...

they will surely keep it below 48k INR...
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
i have been thinking that too price hike of such is not a sensible move from manufacturers like Sony.

its just outrageous but lets wait for official announcement.

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lets keep our fingers crossed bro:fingers-crossed::fingers-crossed:....i will be more than happy if its below 48K
[Xperia Z2 General] devilsdouble:
I don't understand why you guys don't get the corporate profile and marketing of these companies. They are releasing these toys to make profit, as much profit as they can, not charity!

S5 was launched at 49k, was it worth it? No.

M8 is still 48-49k, at least the official Indian versions? Worth it? No.

Z2, if it launches at 49-50k, will it worth it? No. But it has better hardware than both the above, so it's actually Sony's advantage that they kept the price same like S5 or M8.

However if they really wanna sale the phone, they should keep the price at or below 45k. We are the idiots here, we will ultimately buy it, regardless of the price.

Anyway, a wanna be Z2 owner here, Indian of course. Sold my S4 last week and I am using a Nokia 1200 now. Need a phone really urgently, I was going for the M8, until I saw that ridiculous cheap lens scratching problem, so now the only option is Z2, or maybe S5.

Does anyone shed some light on the build quality of this phone? I mean is it same like Z1, which stopped working after a short height drop test or what? I have also heard that they have removed the upper layer which was found on the display on Z, Z1. What a bloody confusion!
[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
As you say commander :P
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Well the build quality is obviously way ahead of S5. And it's waterproof not water resistant like S5. Also the thing they removed from screen is a shatter proof sheet. More like a screen protector. But this time all you get is glass and believe me this is better as you can decide if you want a screen protector or not. I had a Z1 which had this scatter proof sheet but that thing catches scratches quite easily and removal of sheet was cumbersome. Also if you remove the sheet the SONY logo will come off. This time they did the right thing by removing it altogether.

And yeah it is glass, so if you drop then it will break. So better have some protective case.
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
#logic( I should be corrupt because those other two are corrupt too! )

Should the wrong thing be justified just because others are doing the same ?

There are so many reasons why this price is outright bad -

1. Xperia Z2 is already one month late to the party.

2. S5 is selling for 43-45k right now. Doesn't matter what was launch price because that was 1 month ago.

3. Even s5 failed to pick up due to that price(the thing to note here is that samsung galaxy S series has got 100x more blind followers than Sony Xperia).

So I can clearly see what's gonna happen to z2 at 50k.

So I don't get how will Sony make more profit by selling 10 z2 at 50k when they can sell 100 z2 at 45k?!

Simple Arithmetic!!!
[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
+1
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Front is Dragontrail glass and back is Gorilla Glass 3. Its durable.

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Buy a S5 then, nobody stops you.

Simple Logic.
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
Just came to know that a friend has bought s5 for 41k today (brand new from delhi) :D

So expressing one's opinion is not allowed here ?

If you don't like what I say than you can simply choose to ignore it. Just because you will pay 50k doesn't mean others are ready to do that!

For your kind info - I would anyday throw my money worth s5 rather than buying a samsung phone. That's the intensity with which I hate samsung.
[Xperia Z2 General] kartoonz:
+1 and very logical...

+1

Having said that guys. Peace..... lets wait until 1pm...:D
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Chill guys why fight over a phone.Relax let the official price be declared.

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[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Guys calm down ... sleep tight and you will know the exact pricing in the morning (late morning :p). Also initial price will be high coz crapsung set that trend. All we can do is wait and see the price cut. If you want it on day one then premium price is waiting for you. I used to buy like that but not the case this time. I will patiently wait and see.

Leave about Samsung and HTC their time is nearly over. Samsung with it's current lineup will surely suffer heavy criticism and if they don't come to their senses then they might become another Nokia.

I was just remembering ... I bought Galaxy S at 28K and now price increased by 20K. Good old days :silly: The maximum I paid (well my dad did) was for Omnia which was at 32K. Now flagships cost no less than 40K .. sigh :rolleyes:
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
+1 about the pricing policy for flagships.

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[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Well then Let there be peace...lets see what has Sony for us tomorrow:angel::angel:
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
12 hours to go :angel:
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Iam having goosebumps

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[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
he he he he..same here:p
[Xperia Z2 General] devilsdouble:
Great. I am out then, not really a case man.

Also if it breaks then for me the build quality is not better than S5. It survived that Audi ran over!
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Neither am I, but I think you didn't check which glass it is.

Also there's the 6 months Accidental Damage Protection!! :D
[Xperia Z2 General] devilsdouble:
I am sorry mate but I don't what glass is that? Dragon....something?

Didn't know about the Accidental Damage Protection thing, thanks for mentioning.
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Are you seriously trying to do that, I mean run a car ? Well for most general use cases this will do just fine. Even Z1 had no scratch on screen or backside after dropping from 5" height (Search in youtube videos uploaded by Android Authority).

Yes I agree that plastic is more useful in absorbing the impact. Think it like that, my car has plastic (well kind of) bumper because it is used to absorb the impact. That does not mean I should buy a car which is completely made of plastic right ?

Z2 has that structural strength that S5 can't match. Once you hold it in your hands you feel the rigidity of metal casing. But S5 feels it will bend if I twist a little. That feeling you get when you hold something really cheap. Yeas this can absorb more impact but you know you won't get that cold feeling when you touch the device in morning. That feeling is just amazing.

I can say all this coz I had Z1 and it was amazing. Though Sony used Dragontrail (More on Wiki) which is just as strong as Gorilla glass. I do agree that at the end it is glass and will break if you go to such length as running a car over it.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Dragontrail, its extremely tough, tougher than the Gorilla Glass 3. Its the toughest after Sapphire(which isn't used till date in any phone)

Also ADP covers your premium device for 6 months, even if it gets run over by a truck, Sony will replace it! :laugh:
[Xperia Z2 General] devilsdouble:
No one runs over his / her car over a phone! However that test just showed how tough S5 is actually, after owning the S4 for eight months that video sure was a day dream for me. Anyway, you didn't get the point.

I have seen the drop test video of Z1 by Android Authority and I was shocked, the glass didn't shatter / break, but some internal hardware was damaged and phone was not even turning on, that's not my thing for sure. I will try to take best care of any phone, let alone drop it, but there's a reason why there is a word called 'accident' in dictionary and I just wanna be ready for that.

Thanks. That's nice.

The launch is tomorrow, but from when the phone will be available for purchase?

You are right. They can't sell the Z2 more than S5, never. That's how they are making loss year after year, Samsung doesn't. The Sony Ericsson I knew back in 06/07 and the Sony now are same, horrible marketing strategy. They need to hire some decent marketing strategist with minimum idea about marketing.
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
i am careful not to drop the phone at home but i prefer using case when i go out outside and i will definitely go for Z2 in any case..

I will chose glass over plastic if i get to chose between 2 options
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
It should be available from 15th as per Sony Center here in Hyderabad. It's also listed in Flipkart but price and availability are not mentioned.
[Xperia Z2 General] fanboy4sony:
Well same here i chose glass in xperia feels and looks more premium:)
[Xperia Z2 General] devilsdouble:
The problem with cases are, it kills the whole point of a beautifully put design like Z2, and it takes away some vibrations, which is a big negative for me.
[Xperia Z2 General] damagedmybrain:
3.5hrs left...****!!!just cant wait..! and sony in bangalore also confirmed that we will be getting the z2 from 15th!!!yay
[Xperia Z2 General] shockerz1z:
http://androidandme.com/2014/05/new...res-a-wqhd-display-and-an-18mp-second-camera/ ......so hmmmm that is fast in one year itself
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
FINALLY someone who agrees with me! :p

IMHO Cases are a tablet thing, not a phone.
[Xperia Z2 General] :
sony center guy called me today.. he said smartband only available for preorders.. Is that true ?
[Xperia Z2 General] pandurang_m:
Need to check ☑ will update you buddy.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
1 hour to goooooooo lol I've waiting for this since my birthday, back in feb. Going to be belated birthday gift to self. :silly:
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
My birthday on 20th can't ask for a better gift.

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[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Man I took leave from office just to watch the event online :laugh:
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Mine was on 20th Feb. RofL xD

THE STAGE LOOKS AWESOME!!

https://twitter.com/Deepish89Sharma/status/464254872095703041/photo/1
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Hehe

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[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Told my manager that I am sick ... LOL :laugh:
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Lols I think I need to make some calls as well

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[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Hahaha ... :D
[Xperia Z2 General] puneetg123:
Not true dude. If they do this, they will lose the remaining interested folks in the phone. Anyways people are furious about the expected 50k pricing.

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are you serious?

I would be called a lunatic if I do this.
[Xperia Z2 General] lathiwala_99:
I am going to watch it from office..!!:p
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Guys can someone give me a link

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[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Here you go : Z2 Event

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Well woke up late and event was there. In office everything is blocked and 3G signal is not very stable inside so took the day off. Anyways I give myself top priority not my work ... LOL :D

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Great atleast site is not blocked for you. Damm in my office all streaming sites are blocked :(
[Xperia Z2 General] lathiwala_99:
Yes one of the perks at my office that we can browse everything within premises..iukwim..:D
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
OFFERS PAGE IS LIVE!!!

http://www.sony.co.in/microsite/xperia/z2offers/
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Where's my nc earphone :crying::crying::crying:
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Haha

At least there's stuff worth 10k+ :p

Movies, Music, Ebooks etc :p
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
I will check with dealers if I can skip offers and get discounts :confused:
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Wait 2 days after release to find it without freebies at a much cheaper rate on Ebay and themaniacstore. ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] rajath2665:
That's what I am going to do :P
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
But I don't prefer ebay for mobile purchase. Sometimes Croma and Bajaj Electronics let you skip freebies and cut price. I will have to check with them.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Longest 4 mins of my life!! Zomg

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You can watch live telecast here too!!

http://tech.firstpost.com/news-anal...d-in-india-but-price-is-a-mystery-223289.html
[Xperia Z2 General] DooMLoRD:
dude get a life!

;)
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
So it begins ....
[Xperia Z2 General] lathiwala_99:
Hurry up and announce the price!
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Hahaha :p

Sony life ^_^
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
price price???

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see that i told...ya...49990INR.....
[Xperia Z2 General] lathiwala_99:
49K...waiting starts...!!
[Xperia Z2 General] azharshaikh7866:
Available frm 12th may ...rs49990
[Xperia Z2 General] shockerz1z:
its 49,990 to be exact
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Worth it out should we wait

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[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Yeah man ...will be waiting for some time to get the price cut.
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Hmm are the freebies worth it

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[Xperia Z2 General] kartoonz:
any freebies announced yet?? cant check out the event from office... guys pls keep updated...:(
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
as i said earlier it will be available on may 12th with MOP around 47k
[Xperia Z2 General] kartoonz:
alas.... the wait continues... will have to wait till the price drops to around 45-47k... or i just wish if there is a cash back offer....
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
i guess i will wait too

the tea is too hot and i don't want to burn my toungue...:p:p
[Xperia Z2 General] azharshaikh7866:
Smart band and flip cover worth rs 5690 n rs 2990 resp.
[Xperia Z2 General] kartoonz:
haha... yes i think maybe a month or if we are lucky then we can get cash backs before that

thanks bro... BTW whats with that flip cover!!!! 3k.... 0_O
[Xperia Z2 General] DooMLoRD:
they should keep a non-smartband version for ~46k

~50k is just too high!
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
If they deduct the freebies price then MRP would have been around 42K. Atleast they could have announced some bundle offer and one without bundle.
[Xperia Z2 General] azharshaikh7866:
They launched z ultra for 44 k last year without any freebies....

If any one finds without freebies offer online post the link here
[Xperia Z2 General] kartoonz:
thats exactly how it should have been... damn... i would have got it day 1 even if it was priced at around 45k more or less...
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Well better check with local dealers like Croma, Reliance Digital or Babaj Electronics. They sometimes deduct the freebie price.

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Yeah man ... 44-45K would have been the correct price.
[Xperia Z2 General] DooMLoRD:
ok guys so i have an offer for you...

thing is one user has donated his Z2 to me and has sent it via courier... i should be getting it this weekend...

so here is the offer...

i am ready to pay around 3k for the smartband... you buy the phone with smartband for ~50k, i will pay you for smartband so your cost will be reduced by 3k INR :) so essentially u can get the phone for ~47k !!!

what say? anyone interested?

BTW i am currently staying in Noida (Delhi NCR)...
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
woah woah.....just read this

Sony announces the Xperia ZL2 in Japan

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_the_xperia_zl2_in_japan-news-8466.php
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Just now I got call from Sony Center (Cyber Tower - Hyderabad) and the price is 48990 with smartband. They are also offering exchange offers and they will get the stock on 15th. I didn't confirm the booking yet. I think I will wait for some time.

Update : I asked if they can keep the smartband and reduce the price and sadly they refused :(
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Exactly my view.

The bundle should be optional.
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
Pmed

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[Xperia Z2 General] NoteboyTech:
GUYS XPERIA Z2 Launched in India for 49990 INR..

hit Thanks please!
[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
A possibly great news for people looking for NC headphones in the box!

FirstPost says Sony has thrown "High Quality Earphones" in the box !
[Xperia Z2 General] gautampw:
No one at the press event asked about z2 tablet, but any idea if it is coming to India?
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
I will buy the phone day one

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[Xperia Z2 General] puneetg123:
"High Quality Earphones" >>>basically means nothing. It's the usual headphone.

You expect SONY to call their own headphones as normal? Obiously everything form them is high quality according to them
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
They mostly are of great quality

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[Xperia Z2 General] Abhi Dahiya:
FirstPost isn't quoting what Sony said abt their headphones!

It's what FirstPost has heard OR seen themselves.

And btw i have never seen Sony bragging abt headphones in the box at any launch be it z, z1 or z ultra.

So if they are claiming so(which you say) than there might be something special abt them
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Its HERE! :victory:

http://www.flipkart.com/sony-xperia-z2/p/itmdvw7rmzuz2tb7?pid=MOBDVW6S839SFYDD
[Xperia Z2 General] shockerz1z:
On flipkart the display type is TFT :confused:
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
in specs, in features its IPS.

Don't trust FK with specs lol They show 65W charger for every laptop. :D
[Xperia Z2 General] rkial:
The 3.5k worth of ebooks from flipkart is a nice bonus.