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[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Guys, is it the best time to buy Z2 now or wait a little more for a price drop? :p

Buying from WS Retail on FK, its still 48.9k there. :/

Also, anyone interested in purchasing a smartband?
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
WS retail are providing 5% immediate cash back on net banking and for card transactions for z2.........final price is around 46.4k

Edit:sorry it seems it has been withdrawn,i saw it on 26th
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
I would suggest to wait a while. Because in other local shops it is now available for 46K. So FK might drop it soon.
[Xperia Z2 General] hannibalrising:
guys i have heard that z2 cannot be repaired ? also, i have read build issues here on this thread.......should i buy it?
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
Most of the phones now a days are following a replacement policy rather than repair one. And yeah Z2 has some issues like any other phones out there but it does not affect the performance or usability in any way. You can safely go for it.
[Xperia Z2 General] :
thala eaby la purchase panlama NC ? its hongkong imported... status says its brand new
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
I also saw the eBay link : http://www.ebay.in/itm/Deal-25-Brand-New-Original-Sony-Xperia-Z2-Water-Resistant-Black-/131218580891?pt=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item1e8d3ca59b&_uhb=1

They are from Singapore and the main problem is the warranty. The price is good but there's always "what if"
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
Android L Keyboard is now available in Play Store.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.co.shenye.android.inputmethod.latin
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
keyboard is nice...feedback is awsome i wish xperia keyboard had that...
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
U can use dis only instead of xperia I m doing da same its just classy
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
i just switched to new keyboard...only thing is its kinda dull in look...but i just love how flawlessly it works bloody xperia keyboard goes crazy wen we try to type fast ...i never had this issue in my ZL dont knw but vibration in Z2 really sucks...
[Xperia Z2 General] :
Android 4.4.4 Coming to Xperia Z2 on next week one of the dev from XDA confirmed it.. :laugh::laugh:
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
Superb which dev confirmed though ?
[Xperia Z2 General] :
auras76

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2723935&page=99
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
if u want NC desperately u do a fund transfer to the store manager where i bought and i will ask him to send via courier if u wish........................
[Xperia Z2 General] :
how to do that bro ??
[Xperia Z2 General] hannibalrising:
sir, as far as i can see some serious issues have been reported by users themselves in this thread. also, i haven't come across any other phone which cannot be repaired.

yes, if Repair centers are offering a replacement as a policy than it's fine. but if they are doing so because they cannot repair it or i read a case where the sony center gave 80% cash back on a new xperia-z for being faulty then it's a different deal.

see, i want a honest answer as it will help me in choosing the right phone
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
Honest Answer is its the best device get it and if you are so worried what your post shows get a Micromax - Cheers !!
[Xperia Z2 General] ajai_dev:
Very bad that most reviews don't cover vibration strength which I feel is much less than my other phone HTC One M8. I went to Sony care who say a comparison has to be done before they can do anything when asked how long will that take they said Sony will supply a sample unit.

The speakers are better than my old Z but its tinny like the Note 3. There are a few thing missing from our edition like:

1. LTE

2. Those sound canceling IEM "I used that fitness band only twice it looks very weird at office"

How is the camera performance after the latest update heard its better but don't want to risk my data/phone for no gain.
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
I have been using over a month now and haven't got ant issues. Noise cancellation we don't get because instead we get the bands worth 6000. Now soon there wud be a edition out which would be bit on a cheaper side without cover n bands, if you want you can wait for the same. Also I guess you have seen a faulty Note 3, it never had a tiny speaker :o at least not N9005 LTE variant for sure.
[Xperia Z2 General] ajai_dev:
Those bands are not worth it a good IEM would be better. I already have a Z2 with a band and cover no need to buy another one. Note 3 and Z2 dont sound tiny they sound tinny "As in without depth" try your hands on a HTC One M8 then you will understand where I am coming from.
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
I already have a M8 mate not sure at all where u coming from. Z2 does sound low if there is no mod applied and phone is like stock. Note 3 sounding Tinny you got a faulty handset for sure.

Hope you not comparing the sound output to lava or micromax or other Indian Brands :o
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
I second this. M8 isn't louder when playing music, only games, I find music having more depth on the Z2 speakers.

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Ordered it at 49k. :p Could NOT wait any longer!!
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
[MENTION=805157]ajai[/MENTION]dev as per him M8 is louder.

As per me Z2 can't be compared in Aux or Normal at all.
[Xperia Z2 General] stanley08:
Is every Indian experiencing issues with Z2? D6502. Seems so many complaints. I guess D6503 seems to be better. I have 6503 anyways...
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
No Issues so Far ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
No, it's been relatively quiet in here. Sony has been providing replacements.

For every person that complains about this or that there is another without problems. 50-50

This means cannot say Z2 has issues nor disprove it.

How many indians in that overheating thread ? did not see many complaining about it. You would think they don't take too many photos but that is unlikely.
[Xperia Z2 General] longryu:
Have firmware 438 for d6502? For india user?

Gửi từ D6502 của tôi bằng cách sử dụng Tapatalk
[Xperia Z2 General] hannibalrising:
thanks for your callous response. please feel free not to respond to people seeking urgent and honest response in future.:good:
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
no .438fw for india as of now,will receive 4.4.4fw as the next update for indian D6502...................
[Xperia Z2 General] hannibalrising:
i am really finding it amusing that people here are being so protective of their z2's reputation , despite problems, that they do not want to give a honest opinion.

fair enough, i think i better place safe then.
[Xperia Z2 General] unmaskedfalesh:
Who would want to open a phone and get it repaired if its under warranty ??

I would want a Replacement for a phone for which i paid 50K not open it and get it repaired....its that way but if you want your phone to be repaired..ofcourse it can be repaired obviously non of the people would want that.

We should thank Sony they are replacing the handset instead of repairing it and making it vulnerable to other damages that might occur after a factory sealed phone is opened by technicians...

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Also i am not understanding if you have a D6503 model why are you asking people about their problems if you not facing them.. you are here just to put salt on wound??? for D6502 users having issues...
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
Provide links to the posts and let's get into them.

See, somebody says there is a problem, question then is what did they do about it. You only got half the story.
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
Good One !!
[Xperia Z2 General] jass619:
Hi!

Is there any way to remove ads without rooting my device?
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
i dont think u can without root.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Xperia Z2 General] sandy.parulekar:
Should i go recovery mode & super su after rooted? & is this same u rooted?
[Xperia Z2 General] :
I used This method

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2784757
[Xperia Z2 General] sandy.parulekar:
Is it required to install recovery mode?

& what is xposed mode u mentioned earlier.(superior auto mode in 15mp) & 4k thermal?

Actully i am totally confused. I am totally new about this all.

Help
[Xperia Z2 General] Ame123:
Anybody who wants to buy the sony smart band PM me. ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] :
My Timeshift Video of Kutralam Falls

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdKQLAGUf60&feature=youtu.be

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Does anybody knows time shift video sharing thread in xda ..?
[Xperia Z2 General] :
Another TImeshift Video frm me...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCJ59JNBTYg
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
for all waiting for new stocks

new z2 stocks without smartband and flipcase have started retailing(14W23) but with z1 headphones and priced exactly the same and they also have minimal gaps and off-center camera so dont wait and miss out on free smartband and case..................
[Xperia Z2 General] paras:
iam so happy i got the earlier version of z2.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
What is the date on the box that corresponds to 14W23 ?

They're over priced by 5k if they're asking the same, it will come down. I don't believe smart band or case were ever offered free, just claimed to be offered free.
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
It's June import....
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
Week 22	May 26, 2014	June 1, 2014

Week 23	June 2, 2014	June 8, 2014

Week 23	June 2, 2014	June 8, 2014

Week 24	June 9, 2014	June 15, 2014

Week 25	June 16, 2014	June 22, 2014

Week 26	June 23, 2014	June 29, 2014

manufacture date is the one that counts, import date can be whenever. I think only the month is mentioned which means.

A june manufacture date on the box corresponds to weeks 22 - 26

Browsing over at FK, i notice WS Retail is no longer offering the Z2, some other seller is offering at 45k without any extras.
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
its week 23(14w23) as i mentioned in my previous post .......u can have z2 with freebies itself for 45k....................
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
My point is if the seller does not agree to open the box. Then what will you do ?

When you bought your phone did they open the box and show you the contents and allow you to test the unit out.

Otherwise how to ascertain the week number. You have to go with the box.

Thing is Sony does not mention the manufacture date at all on the box sticker unlike samsung, just the import date which isn't as clear as manufacture date.

One indicator is if it comes with no band or case then its manufacture date is june.
[Xperia Z2 General] :
Firmware update will be soon for us..

And Camera Overheating problem will be fixed in the future firmware update according to this sony xperia support

http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperia-Z2/xz2-high-temperature/m-p/747135#M6882
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Just an update : Don't purchase Z2 from Flipkart. They're sending defective pieces and taking longer than 24 hours to respond. -_-

They sent me a ****in refurbished Z2

And Abhi has display issues.

Totally not acceptable for a 50k device.
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
Was this from WS Retail or another seller ?
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
WS Retail indeed.
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
So that is sad then, your former experience along with 30 day money back was a positive one

This is why i'm a bit wary ordering these expensive devices online, even from FK.
[Xperia Z2 General] ajai_dev:
That camera overheating is a hardware limitation not something that can be cured with an update. Thankfully my Z2 seems ok with camera effects and for now does not overheat.
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
What happened bro, received another defective piece ?
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Nope, this time I received a perfect piece. :rolleyes:

But that's the funny thing, there isn't a single white Z2 in the world from earlier than W20 which doesn't have off center camera. This doesn't. :/

Also flaps were loose since day 1, and when I tried to activate the vodafone offer I got the error that it had already been activated on this headset.
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
Let us know how the replacement goes or will you demand a refund ?

'FK first' to the rescue if you paid for it.
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
Bomb their FB Page bro simple ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
So yours is 14w20 ? and no off-center camera ?
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
I am a FK first subscriber, I haven't felt any affects till date except for faster deliveries. They take 3 days to call when their webpage clearly says 24 hours.

They approved a replacement, I'd had liked a refund if they paid it to my bank, but they insisted a replacement.

Will first inspect the replacement piece carefully before accepting it, as the current one is a huge proof against them for a law suite.

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14w19 and yup, no off center cam!

Each and EVERY white Z2 in this world manufactured prior to w20 has an off center cam!
[Xperia Z2 General] badelemental:
That's strange indeed. Even black ones have off-center camera.
[Xperia Z2 General] tel033:
Do you experience overheating with this one?
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
What's overheating? :p
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
How hot it gets :o :o
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
73C on 4k, 56C when gaming and during highest apps.

Took 40+ pics yesterday on my trip to meerut, not even once did I receive the camera error. :p
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
How does this compare with the previous unit ?

How many can you take in a single session ?

and what is the ambient temperature where you are. Monssons have started slowly and the temps are cooler where i am.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
No idea, root wasn't available on locked bootloader at the time of the previous one.

Well, I'm guessing 100-200? Until I get tired? lol

Must have been 38C, I was in Meerut like I said, and Delhi still hasn't tasted the monsoons. :(

PS I've noticed that temps are tend to reach 60C at the time of boot, specially when you reboot multiple times.
[Xperia Z2 General] sharingspider:
What are places in Meerut to be captured by a Z2 :o
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
The highways and villages, cows, goats. RofL

Visited Birla Mandir today, received camera shut down notification after 40+ pics this time, device temp was 59 - 61 C at the time of notification. Told ya, nothing beats Delhi heat. XD
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
What utility are you using to measure these temps ?

is it cpu or battery temperature

device temp to me means you had an IR gun and measured the temp on the back of the device.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
No o.O

I'm using the CPU temp Xposed module, which shows the CPU temp in the status bar at all times.

I don't think that battery can reach 73 or even 55C lol Never seen it go above 40C.
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
Point i'm trying to get it is does it get too hot to hold. Is it less hot to hold than your last device.

40 is starting to get uncomfortable. CPU temps does not tell you this and if you could still hold it then you would not bother about cpu temps.

Don't even know whether you're playing with doomkernel and started undervolting yet. That will skew your experience further.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
I'm on stock, rooted but bl locked.

40 is uncomfortable? Please purchase a Nokia 3310. If they still sell those. Flagship is not your thing. :p

51C is when it starts to feel warm, 40 - 50 is normal, 30 - 41 has a cold touch.

Even at 73C, it doesn't get too hot to hold like my previous device, which was a M8. As M8 was full metal the entire body used to heat up, whereas on this only the CPU area gets warm. Even at 73C the sides and most of it feels cool, its only the CPU area which feels hot, above 59C.
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
A sub Rs.5k nokia ? i was thinking of that and pairing with a RX100. Until i realised i don't live in a cold country with a jacket to stick it in. And i need something to browse with. Looking at the find 7a as well. You find people migrating to it from samsung, htc or lg, not seen yet any coming from a sony.

So I did a test with a cup of tea and a digital thermometer

65 you can sip but its too hot to keep your fingers in.

50 you can't keep your fingers in more than 5 secs. Not warm as you say.

45 i could keep my pinky in for about a minute, uncomfortable

40 is warm, acceptable for an extended period

normal body temperature is 37 degrees, that ain't cold. Going above it is getting warm and 45 is getting hot.

I noticed in the other thread you said you got 8 minutes recording at 4k. When i tested earlier in the shop i could not get beyond 2:30 and i would not say the device was hot, just a little warm. This was with the .69 build. they never update anything.

What was the ambient temperature when you got 8 minutes 4k ?

Right, so these CPu temps you quoted do not mean much.

How did it compare with your previous Z2 in 'feel', warmer, same or less.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Sooooooo Here's the replacement Z2 I received from FK, WS Retail. lol Enough proof that they're now looting people?

[IMG="fk"]https://scontent-a-hkg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t31.0-8/10536707_668312669903692_2376717317817641746_o.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="fk"]https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/10499400_668312619903697_3505825943658098990_o.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="fk"]https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t31.0-8/1559331_668312726570353_2505287369739781171_o.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
my experience with WS retail is different............i ordered a s5 black for 36125,received it and having used it for almost 2 weeks i noticed a very slight tint in its display---------i requested for a replacement but they took almost 3 days to call and approve my replacement and i received my replacement within 2 days of their approval and their ekart people called me and were willing to deliver even on sunday,coming to replacement the new device is absolutely perfect without any issues......touchwood
[Xperia Z2 General] ajay_r:
Need help guys! FM radio is suddenly not working on my z2. I bought this on 25th last month. Can I go claim warranty and ask for a replacement in the same Sony center where I had bought this from? Will they give a spare phone for use when this will be sent for replacement?
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
WS Retail still sells the S5, now since a couple of weeks i've noticed they're not offering the Z2 any more. Why i wonder, too many returns ?

He has made his point though. The first unit he bought FK refunded his money under the 30 day scheme, second one had flaps which did not stay closed, what he just received now is the third Z2. Remains to be seen whether the unit works to his satisfaction or not. I noticed the import date in his pics is may instead of June meaning FK had not got the latest stock.

As far as FK is concerned this is the fourth device they have sent him, presumably the m8 was not good either. 2 refunds and now the second replacement.

I don't know if looting is the right word given the history, but one does not expect to receive a refurb.
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
no............WS retail is offering z2(as i checked everytime)

http://www.flipkart.com/ps/MOBDVW6SVHFYDHKH
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
And its dead :( It'll no longer turn on.

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WS Retail is still offering the Z2. Who told you they aren't?

http://www.flipkart.com/ps/MOBDVW6S839SFYDD

This is my FORTH Z2, the M8 did not go back. I had to re purchase Z2. First one I exchanged for off center cam, second died from water, third was used, and now 4th is a used piece too.

What I don't get is WHY ARE THEY SELLING USED/REFURB devices??

The Z2 currently is one of the most expensive products on their website, if not THE most expensive one(only those TVs are more expensive)! and this is how they send it?
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
dont leave them call their CC and tell them they will face legal action if ur issue is not resolved promptly .....better ask for a refund and get a good device in a retail store and if possible check for any issues before billing bcos as z2 is the only flagship to have so many issues reg display,camera,waterproofing,cracking,call issues,etc ..................
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
I cannot believe this is Sony's fault at all, now I'm 200% sure FK is selling used devices. The ones users return, one to another.

They approved a refund, now only if I CAN GET IT IN MY BANK ACCOUNT, NOT THE WALLET!!
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
how abt the accessories in that refurbished box?is it company packed?
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Those are, but none of them come with a seal. Just the wrap, the accessories in the previous box, specially the charger looked used, it wasn't locked perfectly and it had sand like dust on it.
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
refurbished/repacked z2 will definitely have air bubbles in both front and back protective plastic screen cover..............................
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Both third and forth Z2s had those, also scratches, dirty ones on the upper cover. And the plastic screen protectors were misaligned on both, going sideways.

If FK doesn't refund to my bank account, I might accept that Z2 is just not for me. :/ As they clearly do not have new Z2s. None after the W19. My second one was W20 but it died from water, now last two were W19.

Might go for Z1C, i5C or Xperia Z. :/
[Xperia Z2 General] kannanX10:
escalate ur issue to flipkart settlement team and if not refunded then replace until u get a perfect one,i do remember some one in z1 forum replaced 7 units from fk until he received a good one..................

below is the link to that respective post

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=46312897&postcount=543
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Wow :eek: They're already giving me a refund, but I hope they can wire it to my bank this time. I'm so tired that I'll only purchase from Sony Center or import a 4G version now.

Its funny how others Z2s are rock strong (like that Z2 cocktail :p) while I'm having a really bad luck with mine. :(
[Xperia Z2 General] One Twelve:
My mistake.

Just went to the site, clicked Z2 and checked the seller indicated, did not think to check for other sellers.

Am not sure how the seller to display is done by FK and how the one being displayed currently is there. I notice the seller name changing so maybe there is some rotation system in place.

Agree

If this is the way FK are treating you it isn't even worth considering any other online retailers.

Way i see it both you & Dpk are on their fourth devices but he did not get any refurbs.

If you don't create a stink over this they will do it to others too.

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You really believe that guy got 7 replacements ?

See the date of his post its Oct 9 (!)

Z1 was only available for sale at the end of Oct and demos units available by the first week of Nov at the alfa center in Bang. This guy already did 7 replacements by Oct 9 over in Dilli. Yeah right. i call BS.

How long does it take to get even one replacement ? minimum one week.
[Xperia Z2 General] KyleSforza:
Yup, takes them 3 days minimum just to call, and that too when I'm a FK First subscriber. Apparently my gf says the same, that I should create a scene over this, else they might start doing it to others too and on a large scale.

And not rotation system, its the cheapest with good ratings goes up on the listing. I always used to by from WS Retail till now.