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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Miami_Son:
The only thing I'm trying to invalidate is the need for yet another thread about this. There's several already (like this one: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2576460) that could have been used to keep everything consolidated instead of spread all over the forum. I also had a difficult time understanding just what the OP is saying as the grammar is not the best. This post seems more like an exercise in cheerleading than a serious attempt. Regardless, since there is so much confusion regarding the OTA and the leaked versions of ML2 I think it only prudent to be clear when posting anything about either one. This thread was definitely not clear.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] xAjCx:
Well said! :highfive:

Let me know what I can do to help out on my end. Really want to get this rolling so we can move forward with 4.3 compatible SS Roms. However, should we wait a little while for news on the 4.4.2 KK that would be pushed out? I feel like we might end up pouring efforts into 4.3 ML2 and boom, KK gets pushed. Either way I'll try to help in any way possible.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Ok, so I'm not going to argue with you because as I've seen in other threads you really get worked up. By I will try to clarify what the OP is trying to do because there are probably others that are unclear on what he is trying to do.

The other root threads for ML2 focus on using existing root methods to try to root ML2, the purpose of this thread is to develop a completely new root method. The idea is to take the ML2 Odin files and decompile them. Once the files are decompiled he's going to try to inject root into it, and recompile it so we can flash it to our phones.

If this works it would be a lot more simple for the end user than most of the other root methods (except for Active Root, obviously). Additionally if he is able to achieve this, it might be a good idea to try to replace the ML2 bootloader with the MI2 bootloader since it would allow users to be able to downgrade to MF1 and MF2 or MF3 if we ever figure out a way to get that back on the phone. Basically it seems like the most "open" bootloader.

I think this is a definitely a worthwhile effort since it is probably our only chance of getting root on ML2 and a worthwhile thread since it consolidates all the information for this specific root method in one thread. Let me know if there's anything I can do to help.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] captaincado:
I personally think that this is a better approach and, depending how it is written, this could survive 4.4 update, seeing how past root approaches were more or less overlays or hijacks, if you will, with it written into the package, it would seem to me, have a better probability to survive.

Also, on another note, no need to disparage someone who is willing to try, a lot of the Roms and roots, on XDA, were written by someone, whose main language is not English.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Ziida:
I have an i537 already on ML2 here that I don't use at the moment. We can use it to test installs as long as devs here would help me if I have trouble restoring it (should something go wrong with a bad install).
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Stryke_the_Orc:
Thread cleaned, keep it respectful.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Miami_Son:
Actually, the OP is from New York. When relating things of a technical nature it is very important to be clear and precise. These forums are littered with posts from people who either could not follow directions or who followed directions that were unclear and ended up causing a problem with their phones. If the OP has difficulty with English then perhaps he should enlist the aid of someone better suited to be providing technical explanations or directions for us to follow. That's not a knock on the OP's ability to pull this off, just on his ability to present it clearly and understandably. I was a magazine technical editor for many years, so I might be a little sensitive in this area. I've seen a lot of posts by people who were brilliant at figuring stuff out in here, but when it came time to put the actions into words there was much confusion about the processes they were explaining. It is very difficult to write technical material for a broad audience of varying technical abilities. When writing technically, one should always assume that the readers are less savvy and tailor the information to their level, not that of the writer's. So many problems in here would be minimized if developers would remember that the majority of people need to be walked through things step by step instead of assuming that they already know all about the process. Just my $.02.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] captaincado:
Oh, I know he is from N.Y. I was being general in nature, the English as a second language part, been too much of deriding in here, when sentence structure isn't to someone's standards, which translators don't do.

As far as the OP is concerned, yes it could have been a little more concise, but he was only saying what he was trying to do, which a lot of people understood, when it's time for the finished product, that's where it should be concise.

Just IMO.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Astrus:
Hello all. I'm new to smart phones and the Galaxy s4 active is the first one I have ever owned. I have had it for a couple weeks now and I knew nothing about rooting when i got it, so when I was prompted to update I didn't give it second thought. Now I know about rooting and that I can't do it because of the update :( Wishing you guys the best of luck with this. I will help out any way I can, as long as any changes I make to my phone can be undone in case it doesn't work. Thanks for the effort.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] tmease1:
Any luck so far? Can you give a update as to where you are at with this? Please and thank you...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Deleted member 5657508:
:good: straight to it

I did a factory reset to my 4.3 (through Samsung while unrooted) and it downgraded to 4.2.2. I don't know if yours can do the same now that it's rooted, or even if it's meant to do that (when I factory reset my tablet it reset to a blank ROM of the same version it was on), but that could be worth a try.

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OP: You could dual boot your regular computer if you wanted a better performing linux machine, but I'm sure you know that.

I have the i9295 but I think it would be good the S4A as a whole if we could get more root users. If you need help with anything that needs to be done on a linux computer that yours is struggling to do, let me know. I'm happy to help!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Astrus:
@ tiskael

Oh I never did root my phone, that's what I was saying. I didn't even know what it was at first. So now I know about it and want to root but since I updated, I can't. So you think if I do a factory reset I can get root? I am willing to try and go back to 4.2.2 and then just update when there is a root method for ml2 4.3. How would I do a factory reset? Sorry, like I said, I'm knew to all this.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Deleted member 5657508:
Oh, right, I misread your original post, sorry. You *may* be sent back to the version your device shipped with - I was on my i9295, I wasn't on my Bauhn tablet though. A factory reset does mean that it's set back to the way it was in the factory, so it should do. It would be worth a try if you really want to root your phone, but I would definitely advise backing everything up either way. A ML2 root is being worked on at the moment but some other nice XDA users.

How to factory reset: http://support.vodafone.com.au/articles/FAQ/Restoring-factory-settings-on-the-Samsung-Galaxy-S4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Astrus:
Thank you. I am tempted to do the factory reset, but then again I think I will wait for the ML2 root. I could also help in the testing of the method, as long as I have instructions on what to do if something went wrong. Thanks again.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] chothuexe102:
use other sotfware

I think you should use other sotfware to root
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Update

Ok Guys.

I am dual booting the PC but the driver broke so everything got erased.

I will try as soon as possible to update if i can.

My memory is low too.

I will try as fast a sI can to update and I need to make the 4 odin files into one normal Odin file.

-TransformixS4
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Below is a list of root methods others have tried and failed. Let me know if there are any others that I have missed let me know and I'll be sure to update this post.

Active Root - Fail (confirmation)

VRoot - Fail (confirmation)

Kingo Root - Fail (confirmation)

Saferoot - Fail (confirmation)

Cydia Impactor - Fail (confirmation)

Framaroot - Fail (confirmation)

Odin CF-Auto Root - Fail (confirmation)

Downgrade to Root - Fail (confirmation)
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
I don't know about your internet plan or anything but maybe you can back it up/save it all online so that you don't have to worry about computer faults. You could also put it in a public dropbox or drive folder so that others can see and possibly contribute to your efforts.

Good job compiling this list!
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] alphabeast:
cool

I would LIKE to thank this guy for his efforts on working on this Rom. So keep going bro I hope you can make it.

And I would like to contribute with some extra information.

I have tried all the rooting process detail above and non of them work. I have also tried saferoot, and clockwork too but still no luck my phone died after the update it lost the efs folder information. So I'm quite excited about this cause this maybe my solution
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] captaincado:
Question...has anybody tried Motochopper? Has worked on other variants in the past.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sobertillnoon:
[MENTION=5753963]Astrus[/MENTION] & [MENTION=5657508]tiskael[/MENTION]

What? How on earth does a factory reset set you back to a version? Factory resetting should only effect the userspace, ie the /data partition. Does this mean that an OTA installs its files in the user accessible area of the storage? I was under the impression that an OTA rewrote the /system partition. What is the deal here?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Astrus:
Eh, could be, I really don't know much about this stuff. I was just responding to what tiskael suggested. Don't know if it would work or not.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Yea, I was originally under the impression that a factory reset just cleared the cache and data files but it completely set me back an entire version on my S4A. Yes, using the reset within settings not recovery. Maybe my files weren't partitioned correctly? I don't know. No-one else replied so it's worth a try.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] nick130069:
So has anyone else actualty seen or herd of this working?

My question is can you downgrade?

I know for just about every other device this was never possible
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Kyuta Syuko:
I second that the OP should get and use Dropbox or Ubuntu One to store their files. Won't have to worry about them going *poof* then.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] mythi:
I can convert the files in windows if you want ... i have tool for that :rolleyes:

BTW i didn't read the thread so if you got it i am sorry :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
[MENTION=5176708]TransformixS4[/MENTION] Since you seem a bit more capable than most of us here, is there any chance you can extract the bootloaders from the MF1 and MI2 Odin one-click packages? A lot of people are flashing ML2 with the included bootloader and are getting stuck on that firmware without root. It has been confirmed that flashing MI2 first and then ML2 without the bootloader allows you to use the ML2 firmware while still allowing the user to downgrade to either MF1 or MI2. Any help would be appreciated. Link to firmware.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] :
Would this help or not?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=50705232
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
I will try. But can a Telcel firmware work on an AT&T one?

This is my first AT&T phone...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Those aren't Telcel firmware. MI2 is the pre-release of 4.3 and the bootloader allows users to downgrade. Currently the only way to get the MI2 bootloader on your phone is to flash the entire MI2 package. It just seems a little unnecessary to flash the entire package if all you need is the bootloader. I'm just trying to make it a little easier.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
I'm sorry, I misunderstood what you were asking. To answer your question, I don't know. I know that Telcel users have tried to flash AT&T firmware and it failed, so I'm assuming it would fail trying to do the reverse. I haven't heard of anybody trying to flash Telcel firmware to an AT&T phone.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Ok

Ok, Thanks.

I tried to extract the Bootloader on the One Click Odin. Here is my suprise:

THERE ISN'T A BOOTLOADER IN THEM! that is how we managed to downgrade MI2...

There are the folders:

CSC

ETC

MUSIC

PRELOADDATA

SIPDP

VODB

WALLPAPER.

If anyone is still on 4.3 MI2 and has root with safestrap. Can he backup it up and give me it? i might be able to extract it from there.

ALSO:

Need to find a new way to root if telcel doesn't work... :(
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
If you need the ML3 firmware you can get it from Sammobile. Unfortunately I think you're going to have to work on rooting the AT&T ML2 firmware because I doubt the Telcel firmware will flash on AT&T phones.

Also, if the bootloaders weren't updated on the MI2 firmware, you should be able to get the bootloader from the MF1 firmware since the bootloaders weren't updated on MF2 or MF3.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
1)That is what I said.

2) Sadly I extracted the oneclick and got a system folder with the same content... :( Maybe there was only bootloader (No updates, bootloader that was manufactured with) and only in ML2 they updated it.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Telcel ML3 does indeed fail to flash to an AT&T phone. Link to confirmation
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Thanks

That is bad...

Maybe anyone knows how to get system.img?

Just like those people got the BL?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Maybe I'm completely missing something, but why was it easier to work with ML3 as opposed to ML2? Don't you have the same types of files available in both cases? I would think that whatever you were doing to the ML3 files you could do the same thing the the ML2 files.

Also, I'm on rooted MF3, are there any ADB commands I can run to dump the bootloader from my phone? I'll be honest, even though I've been messing with Android for 4 years I've never really messed with ADB so I'll need a little help.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Well the ML3 has system.img.

ML2 has files but not the image.

And also I am not good with adb... Sorry.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] popfan:
Well, until the bootloader is unlocked, this project is worthless if that is the case.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Bootloader

I hate my phone.

i am willing to brick my phone just tell me how to unlock it or a XDA user who unlocked one already or a tutorial.

My phone is useless without root...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
There is currently no way to unlock the bootloader, you can read more about the progress of that effort in this thread. As far as rooting, maybe you want to look at the way they are rooting 4.4.2 on the S4 and the Note 3, those updates were both released just after the S4 Active 4.3 update, so presumably Samsung would have implemented the same method to block root. Good luck.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] AndroidState:
Yes. I looked at the 4.4.2 AT&T root threads for Galaxy S4 but no progress yet.

It did just come out yesterday...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Surge1223:
If you can downgrade the kernel (AT&T S4 is able to, even after the recent 4.4.2 update) you might be able to root using a kernel version that worked with saferoot.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Any chance you can give us a quick walkthrough or a link to the method of downgrading the kernel? We don't have any developers with the AT&T version of the phone so we don't have anybody working on this. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] captaincado:
Was searching through Samsung KNOX white pages and saw this, wondering if it is possible to get government keys easier.

If you want to look at the KNOX white papers, here's the link....it's a PDF download

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/mobile/solution/

MODS....if this is out of line, please remove.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] jalandar:
I imagine it would be much harder to get the Government's signing keys than it would be to get Samsung's signing keys. These signing keys wouldn't be the kind of thing you could simply request.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] captaincado:
I was thinking the same thing, but you never know.

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[Galaxy S 4 Active General] skulls13:
s4a root knox

root will come.it did for the note3 with knox ,so it will for us.we just need to work harder for it.we are a small user base,but we are strong given real effort.:laugh:
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] alphabeast:
guys does anyone has tried this

https://github.com/djrbliss/loki

i have found that this has been unlocking the bootloader from the Galaxy s4 AT&T versión with KIT KAT
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Unfortunately you're about 9 months too late. This was used as a work around on the original firmware for the S4, it was patched with the first update that phone received in June. Our phone was released shortly after it was patched on the S4, so our phone basically came pre-patched against this vulnerability. We never even had the opportunity to use it, sorry to burst your bubble.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] alphabeast:
In that case

DAMN YOU SAMSUNG AND DAMN YOU AT&T

I WILL BE TRYING THEN OTHER OPTIONS
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Kyuta Syuko:
He mentioned Kit Kat which is 4.4. I wonder if the vulnerability showed itself again or if there's a new, similar vulnerability that loki can take advantage of... Doubt it'll be present in ML2 though, but you never know.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] skulls13:
See this was the reason I left modding in the first place.NO WE are talking about the firmware that came with my new phone.please be more respectful instead of negative.this is serious stuff period...
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] gatoraid84:
MI2 is the leak ML2 is official firmware. I cant understand why saferoot worked on MI2 but not ML2 for some reason it seems it cannot disable knox during the process the way it did on MI2
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Miami_Son:
A little late to the party, don't you think? Why stir this up again?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
MI2 was leaked in September 2013, while ML2 was released in January 2014. During that time, the Note 3 and the S4 received official updates. My guess is Samsung discovered the vulnerability and patched against it. They had 4 months of testing and its safe to assume that they are watching these forums, so any time root is achieved on any one of these devices, Samsung promptly patches against it in the very next release on all three devices.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] gatoraid84:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=51070032

Anyone seen this
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
The problem with that method is that your phone has to be rooted before you update to ML2. I see 2 problems with this:

Since the /system has been modified, the update will fail to install. The only other way to update is to install the Odin ML2 package and this completely wipes the phone and removes root.

People have tried survival mode and it doesn't work. The update removes root.

If you're on MF3 and looking to update to ML2, please give it a try and see if it works, but I doubt it will.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] sobertillnoon:
Can we get an update? Does adding the su binary to the odin files actually grant root?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
This thread should probably be closed, root was achieved using another method and can be found in a different thread in the General section.
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Surge1223:
So just to be clear, my suggestion here, two pages back, did actually work then?
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] Devo7v:
Yeah it did, we just didn't have a dev here who could pull the proper files for us to flash until a couple days ago. This phone really seems to be forgotten by everybody.

The root method can be found here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2690133
[Galaxy S 4 Active General] ShimaMiku:
Surge, you are the best. I've been following the bootloader progress you and other developers over on the Verizon S4 page have been working on. I haven't posted on that page (because it is developer only and I know better), but I think I along with everyone here even in the S4 Active thread appreciates your continued efforts to get this thing solved.
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
Recently(today) i rooted my phone with framaroot 1.9.1. i installed rom toolbox and the started to change fonts. i applied one font and then i rebooted my phone.but now its not booting up.ias i saw that it wont boot up i pulled out battery and rebooted.it loads lg boot logo and animation but it wont load homescreen.it loads endlessly.

i also tried to wipe data by buttons but when i get the recovery mode loading,it immediately reboots.also i know very little about unbricking android phone by pc.IF YOU CAN HELP ME I AM VERY GRATEFULL(hope thats how they write it)
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soopochoux:
Your phone is soft-bricked. Take a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2582881
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] IGGYVIP:
fkn font and bootanimations

what he said ! :D

and stay away from fonts and bootanimations in rom toolbox (alltogether preferably) awesome app but last screen causes more damage than anything else
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
MY LG MODEL IS LG OPTIMUS L3 II E430

ROM IS STOCK ROM i havent flash it
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soopochoux:
You can use the L3 unbrick solution with your L3 II and these L3 II roms: http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=22
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
can i use odin to unbrick my phone?of so what do i need?rom or systemfiles?

anyway thank you for helping
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soopochoux:
Odin is only for samsung. For LG, use KDZ updater. You must download rom too. (Links in my previously posts) Not so difficult.

Roms for L3 II (look for your country): http://lg-phone-firmware.com/index.php?id_mod=22

How to: http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=2582881
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
Thanks.cant thank you enough.:victory:
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
the link u posted-are there roms or systemfiles?

where do i get kdz for pc?
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
sorry about that. i got all i need but cant find usb driver on the lg website. where i can download the usb driver from lg website?

thanks
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] slipsystem:
The link he posted is stock kdz for different countries.

Look for your country and your phone model and download the latest firmware.
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soopochoux:
Here:http://www.mediafire.com/?56ub0cf73thfhtb ;)
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
thank you very much.

thats all i need i guess.
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soopochoux:
No problem!

one more link in case of:http://www.lg.com/uk/support/software-manuals
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mariopoldoja:
kdz updater needs to run as administrator but when i right click it theres not a way to run it as administrator
[Optimus L3, L5, L7 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] soopochoux:
Right click, properties, compatibility and check "run this program as administrator".