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[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
A phone described with a QHD display and 3gb was benchmark tested by Samsung earlier in the year (could have been Note 4).

Phone model number similar to that of S5 found on an Indian shipping manifest.

Spigen listed a Galaxy S5 Prime product, in the product discription they say the screen protector fits the S5 Prime. They then removed it. (this is **** though, cos doubt they'd know anything).

Samsung list Galaxy s5 prime model numbers on their site then quickly remove them.

Korean tech insiders say they're working on this Project 'KQ' and rumored for June release.

June is the date being rumored which would make sense because they'd wanna compete more with the LG G3 which is out May 27th. I doubt it would be July or further cos they risk messing up sales for the Note 4 which is also out later in the year.

So in a nutshell theres just too much to ignore! And i'd wait atleast till G3 is launched May 27th because i have a sneaky feeling that Samsung will leak something maybe through a 3rd party just to take attention and gloss of G3 and steal a couple customers. Just my take.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CisternaChyli:
shouldn't samsung be sending out invites out now for an event? The G3 comes out May 27th...
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Invites for S5 launch where sent 3rd Feb, launch was 24 Feb. So they may send out invites 3 weeks early and as its rumored to be a June release (probably mid to late June), no invites would have been sent yet. And thats presuming they even do an event. They only do that for the flagship phones and S5 is the 'flagship phone' with the Prime just being premium. But who knows what Samsung is thinking, whether they have it under different name or what. Hell, it might not even exist which would make alot of people in this thread look silly, including me :p
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
The denial, crying, whining, and moaning in this thread is epic, thanks for the laughs.

I'll be picking up the "prime-upgraded-S5-Plus-whatever-the-hell-it's-called-today" if it has actual improvements over the S4. A metal shell with no swappable battery may be a deal killer for me though.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CisternaChyli:
i totally forgot about when Samsung sent the invites out for the S5 launch at MWC. Maybe they are waiting till the G3 comes out to do something...i think the phone exists but then again who knows if it will even come out.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sohebq:
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/06/report-galaxy-s5-prime-to-be-produced-in-limited-quantities/

Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
interesting - and what price samsung will ask for the premium version ? 1000$ on start and further to fall ? if so then they are crazy :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Exynos 5430 is good times!
[Galaxy S 5 General] CisternaChyli:
yeah that's not gonna fly. If they price it at like $250 or $199 on contract..that would be fine. Keep the S5 at $99. I suspect it will be either $250 or $299 on contract though.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I'd pay a $100-200 premium for it, which should put it right under 1k USD for the device straight up. With the limited quantities, not sure if many carriers would get this much less subsidize it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Szadzik:
For you and everyone talking about alu body:

http://anandtech.com/show/7984/discussion-on-material-choices-in-mobile

Just a buch of bulll**** it is to talk about advantages of aluminium over plastic for mobile phones.

The gist about aluminium

"Like every other material, Aluminum is also not the perfect material to make a mobile device. As a result of making the device from metal, it’s impossible to use internal antennas unless plastic/glass “windows” are used to allow signal in and out of the phone. This means that the device will be less isotropic (direction-independent) in its reception of radio signals. Even with external antennas that turn parts of the metal casing into an antenna, detuning that occurs when a hand touches the antenna or bridges it to another conductive body is a major problem, as is the need to support multiple frequencies with an external body that isn’t necessarily able to change, as the iPhone 5s/HTC One (M8) can't look radically different from operator to operator. While the use of multiple antennas (receive/transmit diversity) and active antenna tuners have made all-metal designs possible, there is still a noticeable difference in radio reception. Whether this difference is for better or worse depends upon the frequency used.

Outside of radio reception, aluminum alloys’ lower limit of elastic deformation means that while the casing is better at protecting internal components, it's more likely to receive cosmetic damage. On the other hand, polycarbonate is more likely to come out of a drop without dents or gouges. Aluminum bodies are also significantly more expensive, as the time and cost associated with working the material into a final product means that the difference in price can be as great as an order of magnitude. This can take away from other aspects of the device. Finally, while aluminum is far more effective at dissipating heat than polycarbonate, this also means that the polycarbonate device will have lower perceived skin temperatures under load. What that means is that it’s more comfortable to hold a polycarbonate-bodied device even if the internals are at higher temperatures. This also means that low temperatures will cause an aluminum-bodied device to feel much colder than a polycarbonate-bodied one."

I am not saying plastic is better. I am not saying it is worse. I am saying, that aluminium is not the definitive answer to all problems.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Uh, thanks for the rant, but re-read what I wrote. Don't care about the aluminum body, I care more about the swappable battery, it could be made of pudding for all I care.
[Galaxy S 5 General] dave1977nj:
Don't believe the hype the galaxy s 5 came out on April 11 (25 days ago) if anything you won't see this phone till the end of the year. :p
[Galaxy S 5 General] daraj:
Party Pooper! :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 General] turt:
LG will announce the G3 on May 27 (5.5" QHD, S805), plus Apple will announce the iPhone6 during the summer.

So it's pretty much a given that Samsung has a premium device to offer very soon.

Plus the multiple anonymous sources ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] eyecon82:
Samsung booted their design chief. Changes are coming, hopefully not too soon so I can have the latest for at least a little while ;)

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[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Well, the guy in-charge now (Lee Min-hyuk) is the person who is long associated with Galaxy series. And the guy (Chang Dong-hoon) who was fired, will lead the overall design in Samsung.

So, I am not really sure how he was fired/booted.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
This will put a huge dent in my wallet. 32gb will be the standard prime version which adds to price on an already obvious high price. Will get it and get a 128gb micro sd aswell. Ah, can't wait.
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
https://translate.googleusercontent...168692&usg=ALkJrhh8006yQ1hhNskzU80ggwbmC8hCzA

With a grain of salt :wink:
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
(The above product information and prices are for reference)

It's just a placeholder..
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
Well the mobile version of the website missed that part.
[Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
He wasn't booted/fired.... pretty sure he got promoted/moved to a different department actually..

http://www.androidcentral.com/samsung-replaces-head-mobile-design
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Listed in Hong Kong pricing database, the same model number that leaked on the Samsung site. Listed at about $650 us dollars which translates to about £468 thats before vat. So add another £100ish and be on the safe side and will probably set you back £600. Mid to late June release! I hope it ain't in limited quantities and hard to get a hold of. This will rape the G3 and will probably be the best phone this year. Plus rumored to be running 4.4.3 update! Can only see maybe Note 4 competing.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Gizmo Wishlist:
That looks very interesting, surely Samsung couldn't bare to ditch the plastic though
[Galaxy S 5 General] Connor Baker:
I'm thinking that Samsung won't release a phone with the s805 until Q2 of 2015, due to that being the most reasonable time for Qcom to release their chipset. Also, android central believes that Samsung won't release a new phone in may, but rather that it will be a health event.

www.androidcentral.com/samsung-wont-be-launching-new-products-may-28-health-event

- Connor Baker
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Huhh? The snapdragon 805 chipset is already out and is available for devices, was anounced in November 2013 and is right on schedule. And Samsung's rumored to be releasing the Prime mid-late June not May anyway.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Connor Baker:
My mistake. Thanks for the correction man. Guess I'm playing the waiting game a bit longer :)

Connor Baker
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Dude, why do you defend this mythical phone every chance you get? It's just a phone lol.

One that will probably lag like all heck and guzzle battery if it is true. :D
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
and you defend your NONmythical G900 and regret that not wait premium_model? ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
The greatest potential flaw with this device is the screen resolution. We have witnessed the performance decreases in tablets with such high resolutions as well as the massive battery consumption which we remedied by pumping as many mAH as we physically could into tablets.

Unfortunately smartphones don't have that much space to overcome the battery consumption issues by massively increasing battery size.

I think we will be in for a rude awakening if Samsung and LG haven't made massive leaps in the battery consumption and efficiency of these screens.

The Snapdragon 805 with Adreno 420 GPU should be able to handle the resolution though but how efficient it will be remains the question.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Haha, i would more say i'm offering and sharing my opinions just as you are, if you wanna categorise them as me 'defending', does that mean you're attacking it?. I got an S5 2 weeks ago despite the rumors. This will be my next phone if it materialises though (just give the S5 to my Dad as a bday present), so its only natural that i follow all the rumors and updates etc cos my decision is not fully made. I simply just share my updates with the xda community. After all it is a forum :).

p.s I doubt 'battery guzzle' will be much of an issue. The s805 is more efficient and the battery will surely be more than 2,800mAh found on S5, those 2 should compensate for the 2K screen which admittedly will 'guzzle' a lot of battery. Faster processor plus upgraded Ram = less lag.

Don't be 1 of the salty ones just because you got an S5, embrace it!
[Galaxy S 5 General] mezo91:
Isnt it 4k display?

What is difference between 2k, 4k, uhd and qhd displays
[Galaxy S 5 General] Szadzik:
2k - 1080p = 1920x1080

qhd = 2560x1440

4k = uhd = 3840x2160

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Graphics_display_resolution#High-Definition
[Galaxy S 5 General] mezo91:
And the display will be 2k but the camera can take 4k videos?

The htc one m8 is 4k display or 2k?

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Never mind I'll google it thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
2k and QHD are the same :).

HTC One M8 is 1080p. And shooting in 4k is more about the processing power of your phone, doesn't matter about the display. The standard 1080p S5 can shoot in 4k. 4k displays on phones aren't practical and they're a long way away. Heck i'd argue even 2k isn't really practical.
[Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
Poll added!
[Galaxy S 5 General] nostard19:
Galaxy S5 PRIME!

Checkout this

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[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
^ a.k.a somebody's wish

http://mygadgetic.com/galaxy-s5-prime-concept-tour/
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
and i say - terrible wish :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
No replaceable battery, the crowd goes BOOOOOOOOOOOO.
[Galaxy S 5 General] d_jaxx:
Source?
[Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
False. It's supposed to have one actually I believe.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Children, calm yourselves. I was just commenting on the fake concept pictures above, which clearly doesn't have a battery cover.

Bottom line is no one knows anything concrete on this device yet. So, anyone claiming false or true as if they know more than what the rest of us on here can Google is, frankly, full of it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Apoxx:
If there is one, S5 is my last Samsung device ever.

I wouldn't mind it at all if it wasnt for the fact that the CEO clearly stated there would be no such thing. I can not support a company who tells lies to its consumers faces.

All he could have said was "no comment", and I wouldn't care at all.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
What if they call it the Samsung Galaxy KQ or F. Would you be less pissed off? Saying 'no comment' would have been suicide for Samsung. This is business and the focus back then was to shift as many S5s as possible.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Exactly. And don't forget, just about every Galaxy release has been followed by a higher spec'd model specific to certain regions (ie, Korea). It's just this time, there are a TON of higher specs (screen, memory, CPU, GPU), which again shows by the vanilla S5 received such lukewarm fanfare: It's a very incremental upgrade vs the previous generations of Galaxy releases.
[Galaxy S 5 General] da.trute:
looking a the specs the prime looks like more than the usual small refresh, its a full upgrade. The problem is that there were rumours already circulating about this before the S5 lauch, people like me, based on these rumours decided to wait, and thus I might add missed out on the preorder special offers. Where it could be argued that people shouldn't base their purchase on rumours, as you say though Samsung always bring out a small refresh not to far down the line so it seemed to be worth waiting if this refresh was going to be a much better phone - at least by waiting you could make an informed choice.

But then Samsung then lied to us, stated clearly there was no Prime model with much better specs coming out shortly after, so I decided to upgrade me s3 to an S5, decent enough upgrade but that's not the point at all.

As much as I dislike Apple I am pretty sure they have never openly lied to their customers in this way, neither has HTC, LG or Nokia, this is not ok and we shouldn't stand for it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Thats the only downside to it, the fact that the CEO lied, but he was protecting S5 sales so don't blame them. And now in order not to lose market share and to keep up they need to compete with the LG G3. Its all business. Just 2 days ago Microsoft screwed over their xbox one customers in order to compete better with Sony and their PS4, they basicaly lied done a u-turn. People will either be angry or they will be happy cos it means more choice and better specs for us.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Exactly. It's called business. Competition is ruthless, and if people care so much for the latest specs all the time to make this thread, I'm sure that they will spend even more money just to get them.

That's where this device variant would come in.

I bet that if Samsung did not release a phone that competed with the LG G3 in specs, there would be another thread of people complaining that Samsung is behind the curve...

You chose to buy this phone. Samsung did not force you. If you think that executives will always be the paragon of honesty it's your own fault.

Sure I could argue if questioned that there was no S5 Prime planned. It's another handset called the Samsung Galaxy "X", which is not part of the S line and it caters a different audience.

I'm not defending Samsung, I could care less about the organization itself... But it's very naive to be complaining about business when it's the norm that companies will seek to maximize profit.

Even more naive when the Samsung tactic has been to saturate the market with any variant possible of the same design.

Knowledgeable people told you from the start that there could be a variant... Yet you chose to believe the executive from the company.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Are you really shocked that big corporations lie to you to better themselves? You may not realize it, but it happens all the time. For instance:

1) True "4G" specification was originally set by the standards committee requiring something insane like 50 or 100Gbits. But when all the carriers started calling basic H+ "4G," they collectively decided "to hell with specifications, lying to the public with false marketing is more important."

2) Apple CEO once announced they'd never do a tablet under 10". Guess those who bought one should be pissed there's a iPad Mini out now?

Look, the reality is, the second you buy something, it's out of date. It's no different than that shiny car you just bought: The second you drive it off the lot, it just lost about 20% of its value. What we as consumers need to decide is IF the upgrade is worthwhile. So, while I was an EARLY adopter of every single Galaxy release (I am in the US, but I always bought them on release day from the UK), I was completely underwhelmed by the S5 vs what I already had in the S4. This is the ONLY time I've not upgraded at launch, and now with the S5 Prime being all but a done deal, my initial hunches on waiting are confirmed.

Bottom line is: You as the consumer own both the power and the consequences of your purchases. You can blame the corporations all you want, but if you think Samsung lying to you is something new, think again.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
I'm still bewildered by people denying its existence after the enormous amount of evidence that has piled up in the last few months.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
^ the last 3 posts have pretty much hit the nail on the head. I laugh its a Korea only release now. :laugh: and they're just testing things out till they roll it out for the S6.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
It'll come in other markets later on. This is basically what the LTE-A version was to the S4. The S6 will be something else.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
If so, then I'll wait for the S6. I've upgraded at launch for all previous Galaxy generations because they offered more than just a slight bump in CPU speed and useless features like a heart rate monitor... I'll do just the same if the Prime is a similar dud. But, based on all the hard data out there already (model numbers, country certification documents, etc), looks like we're looking at a serious improvement to processor, memory, graphics, and resolution.
[Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
Hell I started this thread one day after the S5 was announced way back on Feb. 25th!
[Galaxy S 5 General] gareth261987:
Personally I am not worried about the S5 Prime or F series. Its not unusual for companies to release an upgraded version of a current model. I think people taking offence of this is the fact you can wait for the latest version and then something else will be rumoured or launched, technology moves fast and that's just the way it is. The S5 is a very good phone and very robust (it fell off my desk which is quite tall onto laminate flooring with no damage at all, luckily!), it's very fast and thanks to the developers on this site their are some great roms for it. The 2k screen is not going to be a major improvement (on paper I admit its quite a leap but the S5 has such a high DPI and screen is only small its hard to see a great difference. the screen looks great as it is), 2 gig of ram is a high amount but most importantly the cpu is no slouch. Waterproof, finger print scanner and other features makes this currently a brilliant phone. Just because a newer version is coming out doesn't make your S5 bad in anyway. Its still a brilliant phone.

I understand people will feel different from me but in a world where technology moves so fast its actually no surprise.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I don't think a ton of people are still denying this, but what if it's a Korea only release?
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
Then I gladly wait for the s6
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Don't buy the S5 now.

http://m.youtube.com/?client=mv-google&layout=mobile
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
What should I be looking at in youtube? :cowboy:
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
http://news.wikisofts.com/2014/05/1...5-prime-receives-bluetooth-sig-certification/

The -L Prime variant receives BT Sig Certification. Like the article mentions, devices are often officially announced not too long afterwards.
[Galaxy S 5 General] iamhacked:
Are exynos devices hard to install stock android on?
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Looking like its nailed on to be released in Korea mid june. But theres been no leaks on it being released in other markets as of yet :(
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I'm not sure if any of the carriers would subsidize this phone given it's going to be low volume and high cost. Even if so, I don't foresee it being at all the carriers.

It doesn't bother me as much as I've always just purchased the device straight up at launch from overseas, I'll do the same for this if it's everything it's rumored to be.
[Galaxy S 5 General] *Emix*:
And that's it?? Pffff
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
I was expecting something quite a bit more radical in terms of design.

At least the speaker was moved to the bottom of the phone. That's about the only enticing thing in that design to me.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
fake! False alarm.
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
That's a regular S5 with a 3rd party metal backplate...
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
You're right. Didn't research before posting.
[Galaxy S 5 General] osvanberg:
Ehhh no way, it's not!!

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[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Comments saying its a back plate from ebay..
[Galaxy S 5 General] osvanberg:
Yeah, well take good look at the phone front and betzel. Maybe the back is a mockup, but the other parts are not the regular S5.

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[Galaxy S 5 General] Sensamic:
Exactly.

It's not fake.

It's real.

The chrome bezel around the phone is not there.

Sorry S5 owners, your phone is outdated just three months later.
[Galaxy S 5 General] devoidx:
Thankfully, it's uglier than the standard S5..phew ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Yes little fox, the grapes are very sour, not tasty at all. :p

:D
[Galaxy S 5 General] turt:
The phone in the video is just the S5 Active (SM-G906A) with 1080p screen, S801, 2Go RAM just like the normal S5...

See for yourself in the next video:

http://youtu.be/pygr6wiYZig

EDIT: confirmed on Twitter by the guy who posted the video

The pictures from Phone Arena on the other hand seem to be the real thing! Looking promising!
[Galaxy S 5 General] sohebq:
http://m.pocketnow.com/2014/05/18/galaxy-s5-prime-images?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook

How about this?

Sent from Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Whats the point of changing design chief if you're not going to change the design! S4 all the way to S5 prime all look the same. They need a fresh look imo.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
A multi-million sales product takes weeks/months to design and bring to production. :eek:
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Is S5 going to be stop working just because they will launch another phone? or do you think people should start committing suicide just because another more powerful phone is coming out?

More importantly, why are you apologizing to S5 owners? Unless you have committed some kind of crime, I don't see your point.

BTW, try not to troll here. I know it's tough for many people to stick to the topic. But think about it.

---------- Post added at 01:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:11 AM ----------

As if the design chief made all the decision for the product? Why do you forget that the guy who replaced him was also working in this Galaxy project for many years now?

And the design chief wasn't thrown away from the company. He now heads the overall design strategy team.