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[Nexus 10 Accessories] crxssi:
That is a scam site. See http://www.garagejournal.com/forum/showthread.php?t=260433

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I took a chance from one of those Aliexpress china vendors. They eventually sent me the battery. It is not a new battery, but a pull/used battery and dated OCTOBER 2012, which is even older than my Nexus 10. I have no idea how the vendor in China got ahold of these and their listing is carefully crafted to not say they are new or say they are used.

Since my tablet only gets 20 minutes on battery now, I don't feel like I have any choice but to try installing this used one now. What a disaster. I finally got the thing opened, replaced the battery with the used one from china, put it back together and let it charge for 2 hours. When I checked it, it was no longer charging and showing a full battery, so I tried to turn it on. It says "Google" then the animation starts. Then it flickers and turns off. Same thing with the power cord connected. So I opened it yet again and reseated all four cables. No change. So I put my old battery back in and it boots just fine.

The only thing I can think of is that the "new" used battery is so crappy, it will not charge at all, and when booting it is somehow sucking down the system, causing it to crash.

Now I am back to square one. My only option appears to Samsung. You can reach them directly (so they claim) at 1-888-987-4357. Our model number is "GT/P8110" They will not fix a broken tablet out of warranty (1 year) for free. What they will do is if you have not cracked the screen or gotten it wet, they will charge you a flat $107 for a repair and that includes shipping to them (they Email you a shipping label) and shipping back. But they *will* wipe the tablet clean, and you will be without your tablet for 9 to 12 business days. He said that does include replacing a battery, fixing connectors, stuff like that. The repair will have a 90 day warranty.

They will not sell/ship just a battery part. I don't think that is an unreasonable charge. But I don't want my tablet wiped, nor do I want to be without it for 2 to 3 weeks right now. I really just want to replace the battery myself. VERY unhappy.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] xOnerOs:
found this in amazon: http://www.amazon.com/ZTHY-Google-N...=1415575306&sr=8-1&keywords=Samsung+SP3496A8H

I have not ordered it yet though.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] crxssi:
Yikes, 10 to 11% negative feedback month after month. Obviously not USA based either. And look at these comments:

"I ordered a NEW battery, and received a previously used battery in a box marked "new." The battery they sent was obviously used, as it had fingerprints and old tape on it. Very disappointing discovery - returned the item."

"Bad battery. Only charging 50%.not original."

"your "new" battery ha now been installed in my laptop for a bit over 2 weeks. first 2 weeks, i had 4+ hours of battery life with your new battery. no battery no longer charges. i have less then 10 minutes of battery life. was this a new battery that you sold me? what can we do? thx"

"Item was used and in poor condition not new as described."

"Seller shipped used battery as new."
[Nexus 10 Accessories] xOnerOs:
has anyone had better luck finding a battery replacement?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] crxssi:
Nope. The one sent to me from China on AliExpress was a used, dead pull... just like other people reporting.

I finally gave up and was able to swap the battery with one at work that we have wall-mounted and doesn't need battery. The only option left appears to be to send to Samsung, pay the bigger $, wait weeks, and have it completely wiped.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] michaelearth:
The battery i bought off ebay (link is somewhere earlier in this thread) works like a charm. I installed it a few weeks ago and have had zero complaints except for how long shipping took. Its been through a handful of charge cycles and i must say I'm pleased with the product. If you can't find any other alternatives, I suggest taking alook. I actually posted this response on my resurrected nexus 10 running Lollipop lol
[Nexus 10 Accessories] esprout:
Looks like that vendor has sold out now, and you got lucky. I ordered one from aliexpress that was pretty much DOA. It had power when I received it, but after it charged down, it refuses to take a charge now, going immediately to 100% charged and then dies when you unplug it.

Based on your experience, I did an ebay search for the part number SP3496A8H and ordered 2 from the vendor 2010daydream for $51.70 including shipping. Wish me luck!

Item link (add www dot ebay dot com to the front)

/itm/201221845839
[Nexus 10 Accessories] crxssi:
Well, looks like I jumped out of one problem and into another. Although the battery is working great, it is now ALWAYS at 100%. It appears to be permanently stuck at 100%. Even after the Lollipop upgrade, same thing. I have left it off the charger now for days without charging and it still shows 100% and when I look at stats it says "Battery usage data is isn't available". Still hasn't run out of power yet.

When I Google search that phrase, NOTHING comes up! I widened the search and still could find nothing. I installed GSam battery monitor and it shows the same thing. What is going on? Did I somehow install the battery wrong or it has a bad contact for some sensor? Is the calibration hosed somehow?

I suppose the plan is now to just to keep it off the charger until it finally dies and see if that snaps the monitoring back to working again? Has anyone else experienced this when swapping a battery????

I had one reply on another forum that someone else experienced the same thing and has just been using it this way for 11 months :(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] TyDraniu:
2 for $51.70 with shipp? but how ?

Ooooouuu.. i see... now the price is higher.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] crxssi:
Yay!!! Last night it finally ran completely out of power and shut down. I charged it overnight. Today I went to use it and when I took it off the charger and started playing with it, the battery meter FINALLY starting ticking down... 99%, 98%.... 89% after 45 minutes of gaming. (Although I had to reboot it when I first started using it because there was no sound for some reason).
[Nexus 10 Accessories] xOnerOs:
I found one at eBay. Now waiting on it's delivery. Will keep you guys posted.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] roloracer:
I have my battery that won't charge more than 65% , even after leaving it chatting for a full 24 hrs, found this site that said they're in stock but the site is registered in England, would like to know how much would be to ship to US, http://www.fusionbattery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=40111051
[Nexus 10 Accessories] stunned:
http://www.fusionbattery.com/index.php?main_page=shippinginfo&zenid=9a40ca99f2f0b8d8db84f26f46c996be
[Nexus 10 Accessories] roloracer:
That's weird, I emailed them and this is what they responded.

Thanks for your email and please find the link for the battery details.

http://www.fusionbattery.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=68001140

_79107085&products_id=40111051&zenid=2beabc04414877fd09ef1c91b76f1e35

It will cost US $37 each and total would be $370, we can send out money

request for you via Paypal in US$ so we can pay by your credit or debit

card, or we do accept bank transfer.

Please let us know.

Thanks.

RoloRacer on KillerKat Note 3
[Nexus 10 Accessories] stunned:
UK£ 23.83 =

37.3132523 US$

Maybe they misunderstood when you said nexus 10 and thought you want 10 batteries?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Enathe:
I also just ordered 1 from that same seller today. Since it's coming from Hong Kong estimated delivery is between Jan 5-20. Let us know how it went once you get yours.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] mr_fro2000:
So I got mine a few weeks ago and installed it last week. So far so good! battery has been lasting me 3 days or more with OST of about 6-7 hr or more.

It definitely came looking a bit 'beat up'... they claim it was a new battery, but who really knows.

Here's the ebay link i got it from:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400795661480?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

For installation, just watched and followed this and it worked like a charm:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yru4k62qdEU

With lollipop and the new battery, it really feels like a new tablet! So far so good!
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Dale M:
I just ordered a battery from them. There was no shipping charge. The listing States 'New' and more than 200 available. . They accept PayPal. The exchange rate must be a bit different today, the cost was $38 and change.

When it (if?) arrives, I will report back on how it looks and how long shipping takes.

I've used my tablet heavily since new (Nov '12) and am starting to see some battery life fall off. It is starting the sudden shutoff at 15% so figured it is time to prepare for further decline. I may not install the replacement until battery life is less than a days use though.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Enathe:
I just wanted to follow up on this one. I ordered a battery from this same place. It arrived shortly after Christmas, roughly 3 weeks after I placed my order. It was certainly not new as it even had scratches where it was previously screwed into another Nexus. This was most certainly a battery that came from another machine, likely a bad unit. However, the battery works great and is significantly better than my previous one so I'm going to leave it in. Future buyers are likely to get something similar, but it restored by Nexus 10 so I think it was worth $35. Just note that it won't be "new" despite the sellers claims.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] krock72:
I also tried the Amazon battery, and it was clearly a used battery. Tablet would not even boot with the battery installed. I got a full refund from Amazon, and the vendor said not even to send it back.

Found another source for a battery that I received today. Looks brand new, evidenced by the fact that the screw hole paint was in pristine condition, as well as the rest of the battery. The manufacture date is 11/2012, but i believe that the battery has never been used.

The site is encompassparts and the part number is GH43-03780A.

Its special order, but after an initial mix up i received it in about 12 days. Currently on 39 minutes and still showing 100%charged, just like when it was brand new

Kevin
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Pete Dwyer:
Hi Kevin,

Who did you order the second battery from?

Let us know how it performs after a few cycles.

Pete.

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Ignore my question, just re read your post
[Nexus 10 Accessories] krock72:
Will do, having some trouble, but I think it may be a calibration issue. About 15 minutes after my post, the unit shut down, and didn't seem to charge while on. I unplugged it and kept turning it back on without the charger on until the battery was completely dead. I then left the charger on all night, and this morning it charged t0 100%. In have been streaming a 8gb 1080p mkv movies over the wifi lan. Currently at 3 hrs 20 min with 38% battery left.

I don't yet know if the charging while running is still an issuor not as i want to run it down to zero first, I'll report back as soon as i know more.

Kevin
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Mr.Eko:
If there are no other options, one can also use an external battery pack.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tarbos00:
Did the battery arrived? Looking at their page, it looks like a Cameron Sino one and not a used "genuine" Samsung battery. I have sent them a message asking them about the battery, but it would be great to know your impressions about it.

I was just thinking about that, too. It would be kind of a last resource, though. A Nexus 10 with a 10000mAh battery pack taped to its back would be ok as a portable TV, but too bulky as a tablet.

Also, browsing through battery sites, I got another idea: the batteries for the Note 10 look awfully similar to the ones inside our N10s. The connector looks just the same and the size looks similar (probably won't fit, though, but one for a smaller tablet might). Has anybody tried to install one of those?
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Dale M:
The battery arrived today. It is a Samsung battery. It appears used, as the mounting ears have evidence of having been screwed down (paint has circular scratches). The date on the battery 2013.01.17. So, two years old already. There is a upc sticker on the battery that has text indicating it was in a 32 gb machine. I have not installed it yet, and may not bother. The batt in my Nx10 is still giving about 4 or 5 hours of screen on time, and my guess is that the "new" battery is probably not any better than the one in my Nx10 :(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tarbos00:
Damn. Thanks for the info.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] esprout:
I wanted to follow up with my aliexpress experience. The vendor's customer service was quite bad, and after escalating a dispute, aliexpress has finally agreed to a full refund without a return after some 3 months (original order date was 10/28/2014, and item arrived 11/10/2014. The link for this bad product is: snapshot/6308095961.html?orderId=64326973131926 (add www dot aliexpress dot com to beginning)

If you click current product (/item/3-7v-9000mah-li-ion-batteries-For-Google-Nexus-10-for-samsung-GT-P8110-SP3496A8H/1981647058.html), you'll see some negative reviews now. When I ordered back in October 2014, there were no negative reviews.

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A follow up on my great ebay experience. I tested the two batteries, and one charges up to 96%, while the other charges up to 84%. I was able to get a partial refund from the vendor due to the batteries not working to brand new spec, and the vendor's response was prompt and trouble free. So I'd highly recommend 2010daydream on ebay as a reputable seller.

Both batteries after initial charge up was stuck at 100% during discharge. After a complete discharge, the next charge showed correct battery levels. I believe this is due to nexus 10 bad battery controller implementation (which also doesn't properly account for lowered battery capacity thus showing the instant X% to 0% discharge we see with an old battery).

The vendor has sold out of this battery, although I see other vendors on ebay selling the item when you search for SP3496A8H. I've kept the 84% battery in my nexus 10 keeping it charged at between 20-70% to prolong battery life. The 96% battery was discharged to 40% and put in my fridge for storage.

I also created a spreadsheet to map displayed charge level % to real % based on an offset. You can view this sheet and make a copy to edit here: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1j14r80aE3EVTX26qBt_kYo49JQBDgiXFMISifsL_UgI/edit?usp=sharing
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tarbos00:
Well, I knew it was going to be a long shot, but I had to try. After searching for a proper replacement battery for my N10 and failing, I looked for batteries similar to the one on the N10. The closest thing I was able to find is the battery for the Tab 3: same voltage, 6800mAh, same connector, and about the same length (it is just a millimiter longer, so some adjustment would be required). I got it today, installed it on the N10 and booted it. Unfortunately, after a few seconds into the booting sequence, the screen started to flicker and the tablet shut down. I think the battery isn't suplying enough current and I think there's no way to fix it... damn. Well, at least it was cheap :(
[Nexus 10 Accessories] defrisselle:
Anyone buy one of these?

ebay item: 331470739174

Our N10 has started shutting of at 30-50% battery. So, I've been looking for options. It would be a pity for such a good tablet to fall from use due to lack of replacement batteries. I hate planned obsolescence.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] esprout:
Where did you get this battery from? If it's the same connector, I suspect you got a bad battery. I had thought about doing this too, and it's interesting you tried it. How did you confirm it has the same connector before you bought it?

I bought a bad battery for Nexus 10, and it shows the same behavior, the screen flickers and then shuts down. So I think a good battery for Tab 3 may very well actually work. FYI, it sounds like newpower99 may be stocking Nexus 10 batteries again from other postings, although it's a bit pricey at $90: http://www.newpower99.com/Google_Nexus10_Battery_Replacement_Kit_p/google-nexus-10.htm

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That looks pretty good, and in the Q&A they say it's brand new from Samsung. If you order one, please let us know date code on battery. With their high rating and shipping from CA, I'd get it if I hadn't already bought a couple myself.

Linky: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Samsung-P81...ablet-Battery-900-mAH-SP3496A8H-/331470739174

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I created a script to control battery charge for Nexus 10 to extend battery longevity. I use OmniROM HOMEMADE, and have not tested with other ROMs.

Please look at the thread to download script, and let me know if you find it useful. Thanks!

http://xdaforums.com/nexus-10/general/script-to-control-nexus-10-charge-35-65-t3035588
[Nexus 10 Accessories] tarbos00:
Well, I found it had the same connector by looking at pictures in Google Images, of course!

[IMG="Tab 3 Battery"]http://i01.i.aliimg.com/wsphoto/v1/1989568503_2/Original-6800mah-T4500E-SP3081A9H-Replacement-Battery-Batterie-For-Samsung-GALAXY-Tab-3-10-1-GT-P5210.jpg[/IMG]

Here you can see the connector. It has 6 wires: red, red, blue, blue, black, black. A few Samsung tablets use a similar battery connector but with 5 wires instead of 6.

I don't think it's a faulty battery problem, but it is certainly a possibility. The reason is that it does the same (screen lit for a few seconds, flickers and turn off) whether the charger is connected or not. So I think that the current from the charger goes through the battery even at full charge and the battery has a limit on the max load it supports. The battery for the Tab 3 most probably is not prepared to supply as much power (W) as the Nexus 10 requires.

However, if you want to give it a try you're very welcome. The part number is T4500E and the ones I found cost 13$ on eBay here on Europe. Wouldn't be surprised if you can find them even cheaper in the US.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] esprout:
The vendor I bought my batteries from appear to have it in stock again: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Original-Battery-For-Google-Nexus-10-SP3496A8H-1S2P-/201221845839 They seem to be on vacation right now for Chinese new years (like the whole country goes on vacation then!), and won't return until 2/23/2015. I bought two from them, one with 85% capacity and the other with 95% capacity, and they provided excellent customer service for me, with partial refund due to both batteries not operating at 100% capacity. I've been running my Nexus 10 with the 85% battery with very good results for the last couple of months and the 95% battery in the fridge for future use. The 85% battery seems to be able to charge back up to 85% the last few times I got close, but I've been maintaining my charge level between 30% and 60% as much as possible to increase longevity. I use the pogo charger cable so that I won't wear out the usb port with constant plugins. I'd highly recommend getting this cable if you have the Nexus 10. I wish all devices come with POGO connectors, as it's so much easier than microusb or even Apple's lightning connector.

Your symptom sounds like a bad battery unable to maintain voltage above 3.6V. When voltage drops to 3.55V or so, the tablet will flicker and turn off like that. The USB charging port does not supply enough power to keep the tablet powered up. You need the POGO cable with a 2A charger to keep the tablet on with a bad battery. If your battery is not bad, it should be able to keep the tablet on, as the tablet current it draws varies depending on activity, and will be under 1A with moderate activity. One thing you can do is try to go to the recovery screen and see if it stays on then. If it also flickers and powers off in recovery, I'm pretty sure it's a bad battery, as recovery screen won't be drawing much current. While I'm curious whether another battery will work, I already have 2 working batteries now, so I don't think I'll perform that experiment now :)
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Atmazzz:
I just ordered one of those last night and it shipped today. I know a few others that have ordered that one and they say it works great. The date on the one the last person bought was 07/2014.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] esprout:
That's great news! Let us know the date code on your battery when you get it. Is there another thread for the person who got the 07/2014 date code? I didn't see that in this thread.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Atmazzz:
Its in this thread I found yesterday when I was searching for a battery and everyone was sold out. http://forums.androidcentral.com/google-nexus-10-tablet/403066-replace-your-nexus-10-battery-7.html
[Nexus 10 Accessories] adoute:
I bought one of those, too. My tablet was shutting down at 40% on the original battery.

The replacement battery arrived Tuesday, date stamped 07/2014, and was charged to ~85%. I installed it on Wednesday, and tried charging it via USB, POGO, both powered on & powered off. It showed that it was charging, but would not go over 87%. I decided to use it until it shut down, then let it charge (powered off) overnight. Yesterday evening, it shut down at 35%. I connected the POGO charger while the tablet was still off, and left it overnight. This morning, it was charged to 100%. We'll see how low it goes before it shuts off, and how long it lasts. Hopefully I'll get more than a day of normal (light) usage.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] esprout:
Yep, the battery meter is wonky after you swap batteries until it's calibrated by a full discharge->charge cycle. It is OK to run tablet until it powers off, and then power it on while it's doing the full charge cycle. That way you can see if the battery capacity is less than 100% because it'll jump from immediately to 100% full charge at battery capacity limit. For example if battery capacity is actually 95%, you'll see a sharp jump from 95%->100% while charging.

I use 3c toolbox for tracking battery, and it gives me more detailed data than the built-in battery settings.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Atmazzz:
Well this sucks. Received my battery today from cellphone-repair-shop and due to the poor protection in shipping it was damaged. I emailed the seller and requested a refund or replacement.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] adoute:
After a couple charge - discharge cycles, it seems that the ebay battery is about as good as it was when it was new (2 years ago).

I'm getting 5 - 6+ hours SOT (stock 5.0.2, rooted), and the battery meter is now going from 100% down to 5% (I haven't let it go lower than that before plugging in). Before I replaced the battery, I was getting 2 to 3 hours SOT, and the tablet was shutting down at 40%.

That sucks. The packaging mine came in was pretty poor - a flimsy, thin cardboard envelope with a thin piece of cardboard along with the battery in an anti static bag inside. Hopefully the vendor will take care of the situation.
[Nexus 10 Accessories] Atmazzz:
Yep, same thing mine was shipped in. The vendor was pretty fast in approving a return and sent a return shipping label within an hour. I'll ship it today and wait on a refund. I think next I'll just get a cheap 10,000 mAh external charger. Now its time to put 5.1 on it. :D
[Nexus 10 Accessories] billkelly777:
Has anybody tried these ones? From ezbuybatteries google-sp349a8h.- not allowed to post link yet
[Nexus 10 Accessories] 4tune:
http://www.ezbuybatteries.com/samsu...t-27779.html?zenid=cul3j9ok8tvpn63nvmncnksaa3

Did you try already? I'm due for a new one.