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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
The way multi-tasking works on iOS from the way I understood is that once you switch to a different app, the app you left is frozen in the background and is basically inactive until you return to it. Once you return to the app, it wakes the app up and returns you to the point at which you left it at. So it basicslly turns off the app, saves the location and what you were doing at that specific instance so once you re-open the app it knows where to go.

On Android, the app is left running similar to how minimizing windows works on a PC, the app is still 100% active but it is just concealed. This method allows for multi-window and chat heads to be present at a cost of system resources and battery life. This is mainly the reason why you can leave an iPad idleing overnight and it will literally lose 0-1% over a course of 12 hours while still receiving notifications the whole time.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
IOS is just fine besides that it can be boring at times. I'm excited for an iphone on a 4.7 inch display (although I don't think the rumors are true about the 4.7 inch display unless they managed to fit that size the same way Motorola did with the moto x).

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And I think it is very clever from apple. When I multitask on the 5s and leave the browser for another app, when I come back the web page is still there,no need to reload it. On some android devices the page needs to reload due to the ram usage being high like in some touchwiz devices. IOS is extremely well optimized.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
Yeah Apple did an amazing job at optimizing iOS and the multitasking trick is ingenious as well. While most android manufacturers try to out muscle the software issues with pure hardware, Apple takes the opposite route and trys to work with as little as possible.

But, unfortunately they have been refusing to increase the screen size and there are some aspects that remain extremely restricting on iOS such as thr inability to download files and sharing files is an absolute hassle. Due to this, android devices suit my needs better but even now im having trouble deciding which device is really better for me. The M8 and S5 are both great devices with specific downfalls that impact the experience in a major way.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carbonize:
Msavic6 you should also take a look at the LG G2 which is almost as good as both of them but cheaper and has just been updated to kitkat.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
That's because apple fully controls the software and hardware.

Apple is expected to release an iphone with a bigger display this year so let see what happens.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
I am not really considering that device at all mainly because the OS is a blatant copy of TouchWiz on the S4 and it looks bloated and overwhelming. The camera on the G2 isnt all that great based on reviews but the G2 does have good batrery life and performance.

The other device I cam considering is the OnePlus One, it releases in 3 days and is going to be a beast in the spec department but the leaks so far point to a device longer than the Note 3 which isn't very attractive to me.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carbonize:
The reviews on gsmarena say the camera on the G2 is pretty good. As to the OS copying Touchwiz LG and Samsung have a history of copying each other but then most phone manufactures do.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
The OnePlus won't be for sale when it's released, and the only way you can buy one is by invitation. I'd join their forums and read about it.

I've followed them since they started :P
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
Yeah I've been keeping up with there forums for over a month now. If the device turns out to be as great as it has been hyped up to be then I will have no problem waiting for an invitation. Who knows, maybe they will offer invitations to all the forum members?

I'm in no rush to get a new a device as I have yet to decide between the M8 and S5 so an extra few weeks is nothing too major. If I am to end up grabbing a OnePlus One, I will be very tempted to look at the Note 4 in September since they should be very similar in size.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
I'll be keepin my S4 for quite awhile... i played with bith the s5 and the m8 and neither seemd to be an upgrade from what ive got...

although I did think the LG Flex was pretty neat...

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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I'm pretty sure it'll be a Find 7 with a different OS. That's what it looks like right now.

I have little interest in a phone that big though... It makes the M8 look tiny.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
Yeah the leaks seem to point in the same direction but im holding my hopes that OnePlus will come through. They have been quoted as stating the OnePlus One will fit in the footprint of a Xperia Z1 and that the phone will be easily one handed even by woman with small hands.

A company that is hyping themselves as the manufacturer without compromises and repeatedly telling there fan base to #Never Settle should not end up giving false information. As a new company, there first device is going to determine whether they sink or float in the market as unfortunate as that sounds.

If the OnePlus One ends up being as big as the Find 7, I will lose all interest in it as unfortunately with 5 inches and larger devices I experience what we could relate to the law of diminishing returns. The screen size is larger but it isnt beneficial to me as much as it is detrimental to the ergonomics and usuability. If I were to get such a largw device, I would pick up a Note device as you gain an S-Pen to help with the screen size.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Well you'll probably end up being disappointed then by the size :P

The Find 7 fits in about the footprint of the Z1 IIRC, and they've confirmed it's a 5.5" screen and the same size as the Z1 (or a tiny bit smaller).

Confirmed specs are a 5.5" screen, non-removable 3100mAh battery, S801 2.5GHz, 3GB RAM, replaceable backplate, MicroSD expansion (128GB), 16 or 64GB internal storage, and CyanogenMod 11S with official guaranteed update support for 2 years.

On a personal preference note, I find that the difference it real estate between 5 & 5.5" at 1080p is near negligible (just like why I prefer the iPad mini retina to the Air: I don't care that the text and things are a tiny bit bigger due to them having the same resolution). You can't fit any more content on the screen, so it just messes with the ergonomics (as you said).

As for deciding on a phone, I'm probably going to go with the HTC M8 GPE. My ideal device would probably be a Galaxy S5 GPE, simply because I love it's ruggedness and I'd find good use for the water resistance.

The speakers on the M8, however, are a huge bonus for my use. I'll often times watch a YouTube video on my phone while walking, and I'm too lazy to get my earbuds out so I use the speaker :P

It's also nice while laying around the house.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
Well considering the Z1 is 144mm in length and 74mm in width there is a massive difference compared to the Find 7 which is 152mm long and 75mm wide. If they can fit it in the body of the Z1, I will be ecstatic, highly doubting it though as the recent leaks have been very disappointing.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Oh yeah that's right the Find 7 is a good bit longer (I was remembering the width, which is about the same).

As I've said, they confirmed that the screen will be 5.5" and will be the same size or smaller than the Z1. They also said the screen/body ratio will be greater than the LG G2.

I guess it's kinda pointless to jump on the M8 tomorrow with the One+ just around the corner, so I'm probably going to wait for the reveal and see if I can get one of the initial invitations. That'll probably be a good basis of my decision, whether I can get one in a good amount of time XD.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
I can't wait for the 23rd to arrive, the potential behind this device is immense so im hoping they are able to deliver.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Agreed. It's going to be very limited in availability starting out though... They aren't a big company.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ckburks:
Ran into a goofy on a Verizon s5....wifi turns it self off and it won't let me turn it back on until I reboot.... Any ideas?

Verizon Note 2 running sophisticated 3.0
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leoaudio13:
Verizon always has trouble with wifi and network. Not only on S5 but also on HTC and others :(
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
Try airplane mode on and back off.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcmarshall:
All this talk about lag on the S5 has me concerned. The only reason I am considering the S5 is because the lag on my S3 is becoming unbearable. I have been assuming it is mostly because I have so much memory full due to so many downloaded apps.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
dont worry..the s4 had lag when it first came out, but updates fixed it
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carbonize:
Then I suggest you debloat your S3 asks maybe use a task killer or Greenify.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirdroid:
I don't think the situation will get any better on the S5. Samsung has to do some serious work on their software. I remember it was a joy to use the S2 but it's gone downhill since the S3.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ewa12321:
About high RAM usage. It's mostly from a lot of bad written apps on Android. RAM and multitasking are wrongly used. i was shocked when I saw how many unnecessary apps started at boot when I downloaded Startup Manager free. It wasn't Samsung or Touchwiz fault for not enough RAM. Without root I disabled lot of apps and some Samsung stuff I didn't used or not needed imminently after boot. Now I have extra 700MB or more free. We should be asked if we want that apps start at boot.

typed from dark room
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ballsofsteel:
The S3 was an underpowered phone to begin with. It was one of the last flagships to ship with 1GB ram (international) , and it became totally eclipsed by releases such as Nexus 4, Note 2 which sport 2GB.

I think the S5 has great potential if it had 3 GB RAM, but as of reality the Z2 is the more compelling option as it is the only 'smartphone' with 3GB ram.

EDIT : I should rephrase that, I mean smartphone as in the only option that is 'smaller sized', I understand that Note 3 and G pro 2 have 3 GB tpp.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcmarshall:
I almost have my S3 paid off with T-Mo. I am looking forward to that low monthly bill now. Maybe I will just debloat this thing and wait for the next round of phones.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Um the iPhone 5s ships with 1GB of RAM internationally,..

It's a flagship too, right? :P
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcmarshall:
Think I will do that for awile.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ballsofsteel:
Doesn't take a genius to figure out that the iPhone 5s does better than the S3 with 1 GB ram :p
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Well yeah XD
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ballsofsteel:
Regardless of the iPhone thing, my point is simply that 2 GB would be sufficient for the S5 for now. However, for those who ask for the absolute best , it is not the best choice as there is clearly a benefit going to 3 GB RAM.

The good news is, with more 3 GB RAM devices now in 2014 like the Z2 and G pro 2 I'm sure 2015 will be very exciting indeed!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I think the mid/late 2014 Android devices will be the ones where we begin to see 3GB RAM standard.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
So basically you guys hijacked this (silly) thread and it became a general chat. Isn't it time to close this?

Enviado do meu Galaxy S4
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Shan89:
That is mainly because of touch wizz, you should try multitasking on m8 or even m7 for that matter. Average free ram on m8 and m7 is 1.1 and when freshly booted it has up to 1.2/1.25 while on GPE goes up to 1.4 freshly booted and average 1.2/1.3 free. It also has 2gb ram like s5 but it's much faster in multitasking. It's the os , I bet s5 would be on par with m7/m8 if they all were put on GPE.

As for multitasking discussion ..I wouldn't call ios multitasking , for example s3 and HoX both had similar issues like ios in multitasking, ios freezes apps while android doesn't but when too much ram is taken it does the same and s3 + HoX were quiet annoying to me when I used to for example game NFS then gotta check quickly something via browser and answer few sms messages and viber messages ...= leaded to game being closed which was pissing me off cuz game got closed right in the middle while I NEVER saw that on n5 / m7 / m8 / note 3. The s5 from my testing does a very nice job in multitasking but isn't on par with m7 / m8 due system is much heavier while I bet if it were on aosp / GPE / sense ?lol it'd be the same. Still no matter how many apps you open on s5 ( no heavy 3d games ) it'll do better job then any ios device.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] amankapoor4:
everyone who are active on this forum and have never visited this sub section :P
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirdroid:
No we want everyone to know how laggy touchwiz is on 2014 beast of a smartphone. Samsung should be ashamed of itself. Sure this thing will sell in millions since the normal public is clueless and think this is the best phone out there because of the galaxy brand.

Samsung software you are a disgrace. Fix your **** soon.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
There's no lag, stop taking drugs, it's bad for your health. ;)

Enviado do meu Galaxy S4
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
Can you explain to me where the lag is? I can't find any on my s5.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kirdroid:
Based on the below phones I use on a rotation basis, S5 is the least smooth. It stutters now and then when opening apps, switching from multitasking, navigating to different screens etc. It's very noticeable if you use other phones which don't do this.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sdlopez83:
Someone posted a video on it previously.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
I disagree, there is lag...but im still loving my s5....I had the s2, s3, s4, and now the s5, so i'm no apple fanboy

pressing the home button, there is a lag...

pressing contacts...there is a lag...switching between homescreens stutters sometimes, etc

side by side with the m8, the m8 is very snappy

it has also been proven the s5 has twice the touch latency as the m8, so a lot of lag from that
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
But nobody cares about that shiny turd. ;)

Only alienated people care about a 0.005s of difference between opening an app, it's just crazy. The amount of crap those sites posts just to cause more flame is ridiculous.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
have you used it side by side? its definitely noticeable, even if they are just "numbers"
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
I'll never touch a HTC. :p
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SeaFractor:
I was reading the reviews and this thread and was disappointed....

So disappointed that I then ran out and purchased three of these, one for me, my spouse and mother-in-law. No contract and no phone lease.

Needless to say, I've put my money where my mouth is, three times.

It's all about the feel and functionality to me, not the looks. That's not to say that compared to the prior Samsung phones that this isn't a visual improvement,but that it doesn't compete with the aluminum bodies of the HTC or iPhone.

But once it's in a spigen case, does it really matter at that point? You can only see the display, and frankly the one on the S5 is excellent.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Those 0.005s add up at the end of the day. If you use the S5 by itself without comparing with another device you should be fairly satisfied but when you put it next to the likes of nexus 5, M8 or Note 3 that's when you see the difference. Thankfully Roms are coming out and some of them are very light like Shohat ROM. That should reduce the lag and all. S5 is still a great device, even those who criticize the lag in reviews say that its a fast device.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xxhyatt113098xX:
I don't like their commercials at all. Seems like they are starting to become like apple :/
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
i guess ignorance is bliss..

you will never know the lag that exists on samsung devices if you dont compare it..but i guess that can be a good thing

the lag is clearly software related.....the s4 originally had lag too, but a few updates fixed it for the most part
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
I had a Galaxy Nexus and it lagged as hell, but its hw was really bad.

But I guess you don't know that HTC isn't a global, widely available brand as Sammy or Sony or LG, here where I live you can't buy HTC.

And last month I played a few minutes with the N5 and G2, and they feel as fast as my S4.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carbonize:
Make sure you disable things like smart stay which drain battery and waste cpu time.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] perovero:
I have smart stay on all the time and I haven't noticed any drain. Actually the battery life is awesome. :D
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Their commercials are amazing I think.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
agreed...i have always have had it activated since the s4 and no battery issues with it
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] claud0902:
If you think only alienated ppl care about the small speed difference between the s5 and other 2013/14 flagship, I can only say: welcome to this alienated world. As many of us in this forum REALLY CARE about this. Your no-care on this issue is ABNORMAL in our eyes.

Yes, I am talking about the real life use, not the numbers on paper! S5 has the best hardware features among the flagships in 2014, however it has to deliver enough satisfaction in terms of speed and smoothness to make a group of ppl like me to jump in.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
Sure, that's why I had the GS2, GS3 and GS4 and didn't stay more than half a year with the GNex. AOSP/ stock Android is just lacking. To have the same experience you have to download a bunch of app (most paid). TW is far more superior although I never used any other OEM implementation other than the old Motoblur.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Samsung is everywhere! Im watching the NBA playoffs and they even have a special Presentation by the Samsung galaxy s 5. Not to mention that every commercial segment got a S5 commercial. Crazy!!!!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Samsung got dolla dolla billz yo
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] degast:
Well look at you. Nexus 5 avatar, iPhone 5s device and talking in a Galaxy S5 thread.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
And :P?

Merely emphasizing the point that Samsung has more money to pour into marketing than most of it's competition combined. They can do what they please. Apple could do the same sort of stuff, but I figure they doubt any advertising would make consumers more aware of their brand.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] degast:
I'm not pointing out anything, just promoting you to mister diversity.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
You should check out the M8 forum too.

I'm all over there also ;)

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Unfortunately, it turned out to be a re-skinned Find 7. Almost the exact same dimensions as the Find, and bigger than the Z1 (in ALL measurements). I'm disappointed.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] degast:
I see. Anyway, do you think of the S5 as a disappointment?
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
Add me to the disappointed club aswell buddy. I had high hopes and they were legitimate hopes based on all the hype and mocking they did of other companies. Not quite sure what OnePlus was thinking.

Its look like the M8 or S5 are still going to be my choices for now. Basically one of the hardest decisions to make.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
But then there's the $350 USD off-contract price of the 64GB One+...

The 16GB model is $50 less at $300.

If I get an invite really early, I'll pick one up. If not, I'll probably go for the M8 GPE. If an S5 GPE comes out, that'll be a big want too.

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Hardware wise no. I love the hardware. Very functional, and I really like the screen and waterproofing. The exchangeable battery is a huge plus for me also.

Software wise, yes I'm disappointed. While it is faster than the S4's TouchWiz, it still has a 91ms touch delay and a fairly bloated version of Android.

A GPE S5 would most likely be my perfect phone, as I loved the GPE S4.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Big time man, they are everywhere in the NBA playoffs. They are pushing for that brand recognition. Its working.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] msavic6:
The price is all that they got correct in my opinion, unfortunately I would rather not go to a device that big plus I don't want to wait for an invite either, a company should be honoured to have me purchase their smartphone not have me wait while others extort the system and begin selling invites.

Unfortunately GPE devices aren't available here so I don't really have an option other than to choose between the normal versions of the S5 and M8.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Oh well unless you use eBay that makes it a little tougher. M8 and flash it to GPE?

And I agree about the invite system. The people with a strong desire to get one should be able to stay up and spam refresh if they want to.

I have to say, I really like the looks of the OS...
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] patrickl:
The Galaxy S4 was the best smartphone from last year and the S5 is even better.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] carbonize:
Lot of people think the LG G2 is a better phone than the S4 due to its better cpu.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Best is of course subjective. If you mean to say best seller than yes it was the best.