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[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Well get it then. It's nice price. Where did you find it?

I do not think it's true that if a phone is manufactured at a place/country then its price is 30% lower than rest of the world. Almost all companies manufacture phones in China, Korea etc and phones are not any cheaper there than US. ~10% difference could be justifiable since it's that much tax they can save but not 30%.

I think S4 exchange offer will be offered on current official price which is 51k. I could be wrong. Where did you find it?

But if that's the case then I can upgrade my S4 to S5 by effectively paying 31k which is really not a good offer, I think. What I can do instead, I can sell my S4 to ~20k and then buy S5 @ 37.5k, effectively paying 17.5k more.
[Galaxy S 5 General] aashuG:
Yes prices r mentioned 51 k for s5

S4 exchange offer was in the times of india newspaper of friday (delhi/ncr) region

It was mentioned min 20 k for s4 max will b 25 k depends upon the condition of phone decided by the dealer .
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Dudes. Don't go for official price on Samsung website. That's just over standard for India users haven't u heard?. Just a over scam. Beleive it or not. Check local "original Samsung shops" phones price and compare it to Samsung website. Samsung is just making Indians fool. M not saying I hate Samsung,m still Samsung fan, but silence of this thread and loss of s5 in india , seems like Indian people shown them standard.

If u compare the Samsung web to their original local shops u will see s5 price difference atleast 8k and other may b 3 4k.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
May be prices coming down and I feel it will be stable won't drop below 38 or 39 mark this would be best time to but S5

I myself bought a week back when it was 41

I have used every iteration galaxy series and can understand the that people's anger ... but at 39-40K it's a very good buy for the features it offers

Not to forget

Peace
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
True that's also sad that I never seen peace like Indian thread before. I mean there always crowd at past. Really sad. :(
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Although it's nice deal to buy this one now @ 37-38k.

But I still believe, S5 price will reduce to 35k. Then only I will consider upgrading my S4. ;)

[MENTION=4635768]Mandeep148[/MENTION] did you get 37.5k price at local samsung store? Did you buy it already?
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
I thought u already bought one ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Nope. I am still waiting for better offer.

Initially I didn't want to spend 30k (effective upgrade cost from S4 to S5) just for fingerprint id (which we might never use) and better camera. But if the upgrade cost is less then 15k then only I will seriously give it a thought.
[Galaxy S 5 General] St.Blitz:
Currently, the build I'm using is KOT49H.G900HXXU1ANE2

Cheers
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Hi bro. Yes getting from Samsung store. Amritsar. He said it have free 5k discount coupen if we dont want then we can reduce it. Will reach at 38k and can b 37.5
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Hi Mandeep,

That 5000/- discount coupon is Samsung's offer on S5. Check it here.

https://samsungindiaestore.com/s5offer

If you purchase this phone from anywhere, you are still eligible for this discount coupon.

And this offer is only valid for purchases made between "24th April, 2014 to 31st May, 2014".

So buy S5 for 38k from flipkart or amazon and you can still get this 5000/- discount.

Please check FAQ on the link I sent.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Actually I meant that dealer said phone is about 43k and you will get 5000 rupees coupon and he said if I don't take coupon then I will get s5 at 38 or 37.5 :) so I think its better way. I am also thinking to buy fro. Fliplart but WS retail is bit costly.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
I understand. ;)

WS Retails is selling Blue and Golden phone for 39,500/- + 5000/- discount afterwards. ;)

Anyway, it's up to you.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
oh cool, i thought its without 5000/- , nice man, thanks for info bro :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
That's what I was saying, the offer is valid no matter where you buy this phone from. It's Samsung's offer, dealers or shops have nothing to do with this offer.

If you buy this phone from anywhere, you will still get 5000/- discount coupon.

So if you buy this phone for 39,000/- from physic shops or from online. When you activate your phone from your SIM you will get SMS with discount coupon within 72 hours.

That way your phone will effectively cost you 34,000/- only. ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Well it's been more than 72 hours I haven't received any ams regarding coupon
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
I think you should contact customer support and let them know.

https://samsungindiaestore.com/s5offer

Customer Support - 1800 3001 0555 (Toll Free)

Email: support.estore@samsung.com
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Yes I will do that tomorrow
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
I m missing the crowd in samsung threads :( this time so peace
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Just got S-View Cover .... looks very stylish and useful this is most suitable case i feel you can used for S5 :good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Nice dude. What cost?
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
2499 bought from amazon.in
[Galaxy S 5 General] anmolbedi:
What is the battery backup you are getting on S5? Has it improved since last firmware update?
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Well I don't know abt results for earlier firmware as I got this device last week and installed the latest firmware

still got to test it .... shall post the battery results soon
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Does it stay on all times or it has a timeout or something?

I would be extremely weary of having something static for long time in an amoled screen
[Galaxy S 5 General] ritvik93:
Just want to get one thing ironed out here :confused: . Has anyone actually ordered the phone online and got the Rs 5000 voucher within 72 hours ? Eagerly waiting for replies :angel:
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Though I have not bought the phone online I still haven't received the code more than 1 week now

Contacted my retailer he says call helpline but since yesterday strange reason their helpline just does not connect and disconnects

I have emailed my issues to their support even tweeted but yet to receive reply
[Galaxy S 5 General] shuvadeep:
I had purchased it from the local Samsung store and got the voucher code within 48hrs.

Hope you get yours soon.
[Galaxy S 5 General] NoteboyTech:
Well, guys what is this voucher buzz all about? Ok I bought my s5 from flipkart. Then? With the voucher I can have 5000 bucks in my hand too?
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Yes should get a text within 72 hours ...just check few posts back for details
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Today m going to buy s5. Which colour should I buy? I like black. But which colour you suggest? Which have more resale value?
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Black would be very safe and I feel have more buyers when you want to 're sell just my thought best part is that you can always put a coloured s view case and use it

Go with black and let us know the price u buy it for all the best
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
I think price. Dealer will ready to give in 38k ( original Samsung shop. old friend) but 39 is clear.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Buy Black, it looks good.

By the way anyone rooted can share some BetterBatteryStats screenshots of Kernel Wakelocks?

I'm interested in seeing what the l2_hsic wakelock typically is in the stock kernel.

I have... reasons. ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Just Bought S5 at 38.5k :) from original Samsung center. It's genius device at software side. Look vice I like simple look on S5 m satisfied.

Sound awesome. Loud and deep baas is best

Display awesome. As always my favourite amoled. Most favourite part is saturation and pure 100% black. I mean at black colour screen black pixel don't work which is best feature of this screen.

Speaker awesome clear and loud.

Call quality good.

Battery hadn't checked.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Congrats buddy
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Thanks Bro.

Anyone know about coupon.

So I bought today (30 may) so I will get coupon in 72 hours for sure? Anyone got yet?
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
As I am guessing, your phone has already been activated by dealer by his sim. That's why he gave you 5000/- discount.

You will probably not get any SMS on your number. Let's hope he did not activate it already.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
no, i entered my sim first, he said i will get coupon,

actually he is my friend, i just gave him 38.5k ( include coupon discount) so when i will get msg i need to give him coupon. :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
I finally got my coupon today via email .... Lol they never sent via sms but fortunate to get it via email had to send them copy of invoice
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
I will also get via email? What to do to get coupon via email?
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
If u dont get a text message via sms on my then I think you should req to send them attached scanned copy of your purchase invoice
[Galaxy S 5 General] rkial:
It's available for 37.5k on infibeam. The price drop has been quite remarkable.

edit: have the sales in India been really poor?
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Wow very shocking I feel the phone ain't bad good camera and all round features .... The wrong strategy of pricing killed the sales .... Only if they could have introduced at reasonable price
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Yea. I like my S5. And now gold one is released only 1k more cost I think people will buy that one.

Samsung and apple are the phone which i say they are true smart phone in the world. Others are just copy.

Edit. For those people thinks price are so less in Internet and 37.5k. I have good knowledge about Samsung marketing (no ego :p ) because I know much about grey marketing of Samsung.

40% Samsung mobile are grey marketed by scammers. Delhi is the most known for that, china and dubai

Listen one thing and a gold line I m saying. Is. If you are getting Samsung phone at 5k more less it means that is grey marketed. U will see motherboard problems and other strange problems in 4 months 100% sure. I bought and tested many times too. Results original one still working and other 4k cheap is serviced 3 times. Like mobo changed etc. I tested it on s3 note 2 and their 4k cheap s3 and note 2.
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
What do you exactly mean to say here? That all the major Indian online retailers are selling the scammed version? That's height of trolling. Flipkart has it for 39k, snapdeal 37.5k, infibeam 37.5k, amazon 38k. The only store which is selling it at "your so called authentic rate" is the samsung india estore. No one else.

Flipkart doesn't ship such scammed products for sure. I've purchased lot of items in the past and never had an issue.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Haha no problem I don't mind because u don't know about it. Even I guess you don't know the meaning of grey market.

Grey marketing is common now and bad. I know all addaas and places in Delhi and other cities where grey market phone assembled. Anyways. You win.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Was this service available before ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] anmolbedi:
Looks like Samsung is taking galaxy s4 route to boost sales. I remember this was one big selling point. And now door step service... Lets see how it goes.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vicelord.leo:
Where can i find rom for Galaxy S5 SM-G900H
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Here.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s5/development

But development for exynos version is very slow. So you might not find better roms at this time.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vicelord.leo:
Yeah Thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
No really. I didn't mean to offend you. But seriously. It can't be true that every online retailer is selling some grey market product. Or is it?

And I already ordered one today. :rolleyes:

---------- Post added at 10:35 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:34 AM ----------

Sammobile.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
I also don't think that's true. Although I have not bought phone from online stores but this time I am strongly considering it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
dont worry just chill, i had struggled and investigated about grey market and samsung cheap devices, even i saw how they make and how they assemble their self, one of my friend was also their xD now he is not. i know you will dont agree me, but you must, because i saw and i know grey market device is everywhere. one solution to prevent of getting that grey device is to always buy from Samsung original, its bit expensive, but i bet we will not cry if we will spend more. :)

i pray that you will get good device. :) mostly you can identify grey marketed device by its price, original prices are Real price, 4k cheap means some thine strange.
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
What you are saying is a total bouncer for me.

It really depends on the seller how much profit margin he seeks. If they are getting it from Samsung for like 30k, it's upto them to sell at any price point. Samsung just decides the maximum price, not minimum. And the reason Samsung estore is selling it at 51k is that officially Samsung has not lowered the price of S5. And they even released a press note regarding the same.

Now as far your knowledge of grey phones or whatever goes, it may be true. But the phones you are mentioning may be total clones. Not the originals. I mean they must have some mtk mobo and all.

And yoy even say 40% of Samsung phones are from grey market. Heights really. I mean how can a vendor know beforehand that the mobo or the parts are defective: and then even decide to sell them at a slight cheap rate .

You can't make a total full proof copy of an original phone in a local delhi market. A experienced user will tell the difference in a minute.

And I'm pretty sure I'm not getting a clone or grey market product for 38k. Period.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
well, i really like to close the topic, because what i know is hard to understand for others who dont know :) because i have seen, and yes i dont mean Clone device its another topic, and for info, Dealer margin is not more than Maximum 2k, its hard to expand to 3k or 4k, it can b if Grey market device it is.

like in grey market, are many types of, Duplicate or Old battery ( 2k more margin profit)

Manuall Assembled ( original screen and mobo but manual assemble)

and 80% chance of earpeice, internal ear speaker of bad quality ( you would notice scratch sound)

and many other types.

and so on profit increases.

so, i understand you, i even dont want that you get bad device, i am just want to open others eyes :) its my duty to inform what i learnt :)

we must close this topic, because it cant stop even if we discuss about it even whole day :)

Edit. Price of 38k without Coupon is fiar and original price.

with coupon is 60% chances of bad.

one more thing i want to say, these are the bad reasons why contract mobile system is not in india, if it will, then would be big loss to companies.
[Galaxy S 5 General] vd1900:
Did anyone use the 5k coupon ? I am confused what to buy

Seems the extra battery kit is still not available at retail stores
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
Cool. [MENTION=4635768]Mandeep148[/MENTION]

Now. I guess this price drop from 43 to 38 is because the coupan has expired. It was valid upto 31st of may. So I believe now they are directly giving the 5k discount instead of the coupan.

And [MENTION=3019559]vd1900[/MENTION] you can get a powerbank and S Cover for exchange of your coupan at estore. Do remember that this coupan would be valid upto 15th of June if I'm not wrong.
[Galaxy S 5 General] predator21:
Hey guys i moved from m8 coz of constant low in call volume problem n got this s5... So far hv liked it .. But wanna get the sd 801 version n getting by paying 3 k .. Jst wanna know if any one is using sd version.. Is there any prob faced in our country while using sd801 version of s5??
[Galaxy S 5 General] devilsdouble:
Lol, there should NOT be any problem at all, other than that you won't have any warranty here.

Anyway, as Samsung always does, zillion model numbers and I get confused! How many versions of S5 are there, and could someone explain which model has what feature? You can skip the Exynos based models totally as I am not interested in that at all.

For example what model is this? http://www.ebay.in/itm/Deal-Of-Week...t=IN_Mobile_Phones&hash=item20e659f60c&_uhb=1
[Galaxy S 5 General] NoteboyTech:
Lol, one should read the full ebay listing..

Available as:

Samsung SM-G900F for Europe

Samsung SM-G900I for Asia

Samsung SM-G900K/G900L/G900S for Korea

Samsung SM-G900M for Vodafone

Samsung SM-G900A for AT&T

Samsung SM-G900T for T-Mobile

THis is a korean device, you should all go for G900F if you want SD801
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
Am I the only one who's very sceptical about ebay listings?

And bdw, doesn't Samsung offer international warranty?
[Galaxy S 5 General] devilsdouble:
What's their to read? I did read the model no. but nothing else was mentioned. That stats you posted is from GSMArena, which I have already seen! I wanted to know which model no. has what feature. Like S5 has both full HD and 2K video recording, now the Exynos version which is officially released in India has 1080p, but does that mean all other models which are running on SD have 2K recording?

I asked that seller whether it was SD or not, and he replied it's SD. So Korean or not I think I can get it!
[Galaxy S 5 General] NoteboyTech:
Well, first of all, even indian galaxy s5 can do 4k recording, its just 4g which doesnt make into exynos and you see the android development forum, there are roms and kernels just for g900f not any other varient so, thats why I recommended it... anyways it's all your choice....
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Samsung does not offer international warranty.

That's why all ebay listings for SD S5 comes with seller warranty which is as good as no warranty.
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
And I already ordered an exynos one. Huh.

But really, with HMP, is exynos that bad? As compared to the snapdragon model?

I have seen comparisons. But none of them seem to compare them in real life usage scenario. All are running after benchmarks. What I'm really concerned about is heating and battery life. And I don't think anyone has done that untill now, in detail.

It would really be nice to see them compared in real life usage.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Exynos chip is little more powerful then SD. But in practical uses it's not as reliable as SD and generates more heat but it depends on uses too and same goes for battery life.

Samsung also implemented big.LITTLE on Exynos chip but the implementation is very poor and it does not work efficiently (according to developers). Although in theory concept of big.LITTLE is very impressive and it could impact industry.

But the main reason people prefer SD version over exynos because it's well supported by developers.
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
Would it be better if I return the exynos and get a snapdragon?

But honestly I try to stay away from such vendors who provide it without bill and warranty. Isn't there any reliable store other than ebay?
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
What are your preferences? What is more important for you

1. ROMs, Mods and you always look for stuff you can flash on your phone.

or

2. Just enjoy phone with apps and games. And have warranty.

If you choose first then ofcourse you should by SD version. And if you do not care much about flashing then Exynos will be OK too.

As I said, development for Exynos is slower but it does not mean you will not get good roms or kernels. You will get those but not as fast as SD version. To be clear slow development will be for CM kernels, roms and mods. Development for Samsung based roms, kernels etc will be fine.

For me warranty is important because I have seen lots of issues and defects in S4. What if you purchase a SD version and it has 2-3 dead pixels on screen or have some issue with motherboard. Ofcourse you cannot test your device and ebay is well known to sell garbage. What will you do?

ibhejo.com sells imported goods. I have tried them once with a motherboard and it works great. But I do not have any experience with return and support on ibhejo.
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
Thanks man. I do love to flash roms. But then, even I feel hardware warranty is a must for a couple of months. You never know you have a faulty board. So I will also stick with the S5 Exynos model.

Cheers mate. See you soon in development section. I'm really eager to see what developers can extract out of this true octa core.
[Galaxy S 5 General] paras:
It's technically slower than snapdragon processor.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
And exactly how?

Coz when you say "technically", it's actually faster than SD as the benchmarks show.
[Galaxy S 5 General] paras:
Why u think the demo units in India are snapdragon ones when they sell Exynos.The processor is really bad and that's why in U.S.A.they sell the snapdragon one.

Sent From My Nexus 5 Stock 4.4.2 ART
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
I don't think that's the reason behind snapdragon version for demo units.

I don't know about you but regular customers (like me) cannot really differentiate between both just by testing fresh phones of each version. Fresh phones of each practically runs same. As far as I know, Samsung started sending SD demo units from S4 but it could be because SD units were already available a month before Exynos. But we will never know, you could be right too.

Theoretically, Exynos is faster (could be because of benchmark cheating) but in real life uses SD is a little better. Although the difference is very marginal and we will probably not notice it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] paras:
Bro I have a s4 (wife) and sold my s4 a month back.Iam never going to buy another Samsung phone coz they treat Indians like done stupid people who'll buy anything they throw at us.They used sd proc coz they know it's a better version.Have u seen how bad Samsung performed with s5 and the price fall within a month? Almost 15k if Iam not wrong in 1 month or so.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Well, I am on same boat with you. I also do not like Samsung's practices in India.

But just saying Exynos S5 is bad compared to SD S5, it's not true. Samsung selling SD phone in US and Europe could be because of couple of reasons.

1. Samsung selling Exynos to countries that do not have LTE wide spread.

2. Their factories are not capable to fulfill the demand with Exynos.

3. Samsung could be facing some legal issues or patent issues.

Otherwise a company like Samsung would not buy a chips that they can produce.

Finally, if you are happy with SD then it's good for you. We have Exynos, works for us. :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] paras:
It's bad if u ask me and No reason why we don't get sd proc.

Sent From My Sony Xperia Z2 D6502 White .402
[Galaxy S 5 General] v_square:
Right on money. Simply saying SD is better doesn't make sense for me. It may be difficult, from a developer's point of view to develop for exynos model. But then, if someone gets a grip on this, I feel octa core can be put to very good use. I really feel exynos can turn out to be better of the two but majority of the apps are still not optimised for it.

I hope Samsung release the sources in time.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
It's not very tough to explain -- they want to save on 4G patent costs.

Samsung sells Exynos on many countries where 4G is not available or popular. If they used SD, they would have to pay lot of royalty on 4G patents (even if 4G is not available in that country). This is the primary reason why most of their tablets use Exynos instead of Snapdragon. Their policy is simple -- use Exynos in countries where 4G isn't popular/available.

Patent costs are 30% of a new phone's retail price