yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X Q&A] contesauce:
I did the same things as both above, and have been in contact with the seller via the "blue button" on the screen. Although it does say that he's not available, as soon as I messaged him he replied right away. Just make sure you leave your email/skype and IMEI in the comments section and he said he'll contact in both respects in 48 hours.

I will definitely post my success or failure as soon as it happens.
[Moto X Q&A] rtm1102:
same here as above. thanks for the help with the site!
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
The only version that can be downgraded is 4.4 > 4.2.2 post-camera OTA, even on an unlocked bootloader, any other attempt to downgrade would fail.

If you attempt to downgrade with RSD Lite, it would fail because gpt.bin fails to flash, no brick. But if you attempt to frankenstein a downgrade method where you would flash everything except gpt.bin and any file that can't be flashed, you would downgrade successfully, no brick, but you would brick if you take an OTA after that...

You can download factory images from here:

http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0

The "generic" GSM ROM is Retail US listed as T-Mobile. It is the ROM used on the GSM Unlocked XT1053 (TMO) and the GSM Dev Ed XT1053. But it's compatible with all American GSM editions, so it can be flashed on an XT1058. You might lose LTE bands 5 and 7 though unless you flash the radio files from your ROM.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
I am still not clear on what is being said here. This is what I am saying - if you are on 4.4.2 and downgrade to 4.4 system and stay stock 4.4 system, you can take the 4.4.2 OTA and you will not brick. The 4.4.2 OTA script will see that the bootloader is already 4.4.2 and will not do anything to the bootloader. It will only upgrade the 4.4 system to the 4.4.2 system.

The problem is when people are not stock, not when people have downgraded to a lower version system and remained stock.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
This is where you're wrong, if you are on 4.4.2 and only flash the 4.4 system.img, taking the 4.4.2 OTA would brick...
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
No, you are wrong. Read here:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/development/xt1060-164-55-2-unofficial-fxz-unlocked-t2659682
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Dude, you're so stubborn. Go ahead and take an OTA after upgrading/downgrading by only flashing boot, system, modem, and fsg but don't come back here moaning because you bricked and don't tell other people that it's OK to do it.

Where exactly does it say in that thread that it's OK to take an OTA after upgrading/downgrading by only flashing boot, system, modem, and fsg?? It doesn't because you would brick if you do!

No one is saying that you can't downgrade without flashing gpt.bin and motoboot.img, you can and it would work but you should be careful not to take an OTA if you do that because you would brick...
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
Go back and read my post. You are reading things into my post that aren't there. I NEVER mentioned boot, modem and fsg. If you downgrade the SYSTEM and stay stock and then take the OTA you won't brick. That's what I said and I have done it and so have others in that thread.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
I'm not reading things into your post, boot, modem and fsg are mentioned in the thread that you linked to which you asked me to read ;)

boot, modem and fsg are irrelevant anyways, what's relevant is that you're not flashing gpt.bin and motoboot.img

So forget about boot, modem and fsg if you want, but downgrading by flashing system.img only without flashing gpt.bin and motoboot.img (regardless of whether you flash boot, modem and fsg) and then taking an OTA WILL brick.

You say you have done it and so have others in that thread, but I read it all and no one said that they have done it, give me a link to one single post where someone says that they have done it without bricking...

I think you're confused between taking an OTA and upgrading by flashing system.img. If you've downgraded by flashing system.img only, you can upgrade again by flashing system.img but you cannot upgrade by taking an OTA.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
Here you go

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50705121&postcount=34
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
You're mis-reading this. He's saying "also able to reapply the 4.4.2 update". He means that he can re-apply the 4.4.2 update by re-flashing the 4.4.2 system.img but not by taking the 4.4.2 OTA...
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
No I am not. I have done it and so has he. Search his other posts if that post is not explicit enough for you.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
If what you're saying is correct and installing the 4.4.2 OTA on top of a system that has been downgraded by flashing the 4.4 system.img does not brick, it is a recipe for instability because you are mixing up files from different versions together so it is likely that something is going to go wrong at one point in time, either while using the phone or when taking the next OTA or future ones, it's just not safe to do that.

OTA's are not full images, they are partial images designed to patch current files, so installing an OTA on top of files it's not designed to patch will most likely cause problems. If the problem is not a brick, it might be something else which might not be obvious to the user immediately.

Installing the post-camera 4.2.2 OTA on top of a system downgraded by flashing the pre-camera 4.2.2 OTA system.img used to brick, now with 4.4.2 you're saying it doesn't brick, but this doesn't mean everything else is 100% OK if it doesn't brick.

It's just a hit or miss with those things, if 1 OTA bricks another might not brick and the next one might, it's just that it is not recommended to install an OTA on top of a system that has been modified or includes files from mixed versions... It would be better to manually flash system.img to upgrade instead of taking the OTA even if taking it wouldn't brick...
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
Huh? there is no mixing of files. The OTA has a manifest it checks your phone against. Here is what happens - the 4.4.2 OTA script will recognize that you already have the 4.4.2 bootloader and partition table so it does nothing to those. Then it sees you have stock 4.4 system and it will upgrade the system to 4.4.2. That is all that happens.

This is for unlocked bootloader. I don't know what happens with locked bootloader.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
How would you explain people bricking when installing the post-camera 4.2.2 OTA on a system that has been downgraded by flashing the pre-camera OTA 4.2.2 system.img then?
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
Were they stock pre-camera 4.2.2 system when they took the post-camera 4.2.2 OTA?

I think the problems come from people staying rooted or having other non-stock system mods when they take the OTA.

I am too tired tonight but once I figure out how to restore my relative's custom wallpaper to look the way it did when she got the phone, I will downgrade to 4.4 and take the 4.4.2 OTA again and show you that it is safe as long as you stay stock and have an unlocked bootloader.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Yes, it happens immediately after flashing the pre-camera 4.2.2 system.img on top of the post-camera 4.2.2 system.img and then taking the OTA...
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
idk, I got my Moto X dev ed after kit kat was released and so didn't spend any time on 4.2.2. You know the engineers at Motorola are humans who make mistakes so it is possible the post-camera 4.2.2 OTA script was poorly written.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Still terrible advice to give people that aren't completely sure of what they are doing. They do anything wrong......possible brick.

So I, and many others just say no, don't downgrade. At least then if they do whatever and brick....its nothing to do with me.

The end. ;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

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Again....terrible and dangerous advice to tell a noob they can downgrade. In case I wasn't clear. Lol

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

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Here's an idea. Instead of telling people yes, they can downgrade. Tell them to practice xda rule number one. Search. Then they themselves can find the info and do what they want. Then you, I, we, won't get messages later saying, hey dude, I did what you said and bricked. When who knows that they even did exactly what you said.

Seems the safer way to go. Let them research it and take the risk on their own.... :)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X Q&A] Summersett:
Well, got a text at 4:19am saying "You have a refund. Please inquire issuing bank in 1-5 working days or so." Taobao also shows my Current Order Status as "Transaction Close" and says Refund Success. Haven't got a word from the seller though, so I have no clue if it means my device can't be unlocked or if something didn't go through. Yesterday the status showed Payment Success. I'm going to try to get a hold of him tonight and see if he has any idea.

EDIT: He replied already saying "Alipay auto refund it.Alipay thought it's risky transaction.so auto refund it.I'm sorry.Maybe you can find a shopping service man." Guess I'm going to have to try something different...
[Moto X Q&A] anotherfiz:
Summer, what is your fastboot / BL version? I have a suspicion that only 30.B2 BL's can get unlocked, do you have a 30.71?
[Moto X Q&A] Summersett:
Mine is a 30.B2. So you may still be correct, but from what he said it was Alipay that blocked the transaction. I'm going to try today with my card from my other bank. Hopefully Alipay will play nice with that. Option 3 is waiting for my Google Wallet to link to the account and try that way. Has anyone tried that way yet with success?
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
I doubt this has anything to do with the bootloader version.

It's not that he's using some sort of exploit to unlock, he's simply generating a genuine unlock code from the imei, it has nothing to do with the bootloader version.
[Moto X Q&A] anotherfiz:
I just have not seen any confirmed yet on 30.71.. I hope you are correct though =D
[Moto X Q&A] drewwegand:
Can we get an idea of when the most recent successful unlock was done? who has gone one in the past day or so?
[Moto X Q&A] Max725:
I got an email from chinese.silk this morning saying that she ordered the code and will email it to me in around 48 hours.
[Moto X Q&A] a1exus:
If one unlocks bootloader, can you take OTA 4.4.2 update after that?
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
How can it have anything to do with bootloader version when he never asks you for your bootloader version? Your IMEI stays the same no matter what bootloader version you are on. And all he asks you for is your IMEI. He doesn't know what bootloader version you have.

If it is an algorithm that generates the unlock code from the IMEI rather than a database, I wonder how many IMEI/unlock code combos one would have to know to reverse engineer the algorithm? Each unlock code has 20 digits and each digit can be either a letter or a number so that is 36 possible choices per digit. Each IMEI number has 15 digits and each digit can be one of 10 possible choices.

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EDITED - you need to return to stock 4.4 system and recovery to take the 4.4.2 OTA.
[Moto X Q&A] drewwegand:
I got the same message this morning, I was just curious when was the last time someone successfully unlocked with a code via fastboot.
[Moto X Q&A] a1exus:
Awesome! So is there any other con's other then obvious voiding warranty? I want to go 4.4.2 and I don't want to loose root.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
Then every piece of advice on all of XDA other than don't mod your device is terrible advice because potentially you can brick if you don't read and don't know what you are doing.

Ridiculous. Read before you mod.

But that doesn't justify those of you who are saying you will brick for sure when you won't. You can't defend that by saying we are giving out false warnings to everyone to protect noobs who may get confused and do something wrong and brick.

You should stop giving out false warnings. If people don't want to read and then do something wrong, that is on them. But I am not going to go along with saying someone will brick when they won't just to protect people who won't read. Those of us who do read want accurate information.

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There are no cons at all to unlocking your bootloader other than it will void your warranty if you don't have a dev ed. Except maybe if you lose your phone - then your data on the phone is less secure in the hands of a thief who knows what they are doing.

Just to clarify - if you are locked and rooted on 4.4 with write protect disabled, you can take the 4.4.2 OTA and keep root but write protection will become re-enabled, which of course makes root far less useful.

If your bootloader is unlocked, you can always root no matter what version of the OS you are on as long as there is a custom recovery available for your device and for that version of the bootloader. And you can flash custom ROMs and unsigned files as well as make nandroids.

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Middleman needs to wait 24 hours for money to appear in his account. Then when the middle man pays the chinese seller, the chinese seller needs to wait at least 24 hours from when he receives the money for money to appear in his account. So that is the 48 hours.
[Moto X Q&A] dhoppy:
Just got my unlock code from the ebay middleperson. It worked. It took 24 hours from the time I sent the $42 (by bank wire).

Now what do I do? I want to end up on 4.4.2 with root. I think the steps are to flash back to 4.2.2 post camera stock, take the OTAs to 4.4.2, then flash TWRP and supersu. I can't seem to find a thread that covers my situation (vzw non-dev 4.4 rooted --> vzw unlocked bootloader).

Thanks in advance.
[Moto X Q&A] trimax84:
Just got my unlock code today (less than 24hrs after payment by doing it directly through seller by using the method below).

I'm gonna do my fastboot unlock when I get home from work and I'll let everyone know if it's legit.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
EDITED - you need to return to stock 4.4 system and recovery to take the 4.4.2 OTA. Then root by following these directions:

http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738
[Moto X Q&A] trimax84:
Try this link: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2645122

Very nice info on what steps to take to unlock and get your custom recovery.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
Downgrading the OS is for locked bootloaders. Have you already unlocked your device? You unlock your bootloader by putting it in bootloader mode and typing:

fastboot oem unlock [Unique Code]

at the command prompt after you have changed directory to where the fastboot.exe file is.

EDITED - you need to return to stock 4.4 system and recovery to take the 4.4.2 OTA.
[Moto X Q&A] anotherfiz:
Can confirm, worked for me with 30.71 bootloader. w00t
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Once you have your code, If you want 4.4.2 with root...

Backup your phone since unlocking the bootloader is destructive. It does a factory reset which erases your data and apps.

To Unlock your bootloader, start the phone in fastboot or bootloader mode and on your PC type... mfastboot oem unlock UNIQUE_KEY (where the unique_key is the code you got... and it is case sensitive).

Use RSDLite to flash the 4.4.2 SBF from -> http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0

Root by following -> http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/instructions-unlocking-rooting-dev-ed-t2649738

Get rid of the Unlocked bootloader warning by replacing the LOGO.BIN with a custom one. See this thread for some custom ones and "how to" -> http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/themes-apps/moto-x-boot-logos-t2417961 I have some zipped up here -> http://mark.cdmaforums.com/X-STUFF/X-LogoBins.zip to make your own see -> http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=49179887&postcount=150
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
EDITED - you need to return to stock 4.4 system and recovery to take the 4.4.2 OTA.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Wiping your device will not take you back to stock if you had rooted with pwnmymoro/rockmymoto/slapmymoto and done all sorts of root modifications to your device prior to unlocking your bootloader.

Wiping your device would only erase the userdata and cache partitions, it would not undo the root stuff that you did to your system partition.

That's why it is recommended to flash a stock SBF to go back to 100% stock before you take an OTA and install twrp and supersu to root...
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
OK, I will go back and edit to avoid confusion. So then you have to flash the /system partition to go back to stock system. Or manually reverse the changes, but that would be harder, take longer and you may forget what you have changed.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Dude.....read my posts again. I never said you WILL brick. I specifically used words like "possible" and the term "Russian roulette ". You don't always blow your head off in Russian roulette ....but occasionally you do. ;)

Anyway, I'm not going to stop warning people of the "potential " hazzard.....and you will probably continue to say what you say......so......classic case of lets agree to disagree and leave it at that. :)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
It's not russian roulette.
[Moto X Q&A] scottshebs:
If he is not online what is the best way to contact him and give him my imei?
[Moto X Q&A] BladeRunner:
The brick happens after a downgrade from 4.4 to pre-camera then taking an OTA to post camera 4.2.2 because you cannot downgrade the gpt.bin or the motoboot.img. The OTA essentially tries to downgrade the gpt.bin and motoboot.img and bricks the device.
[Moto X Q&A] SYNSYNACKACK:
Assuming you are talking about the Taobao seller..

Check his other auctions. Seller lists his Skype and email address, its a gmail account

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I can vouch for this. I ran into weird issues by just performing a factory reset. Go 100% stock !

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You can also flash the boot logo to get rid of the ugly Motorola warning.
[Moto X Q&A] ThaSik1:
Can confirm that TaoBao Seller is legit. I paid directly through the site Yesterday around Noon and got my code @ 11:30. Thanks to all who helped bring this option to light and the guides on how to set things up after being unlocked!.My Olive w/ Yellow Accents Dev Edition is truly something phenomenal now :victory::D
[Moto X Q&A] trimax84:
Received my code less than 24 hrs after directly purchasing (without eBay middleman)

And it worked!

I attached a few pictures. Now to root, get rid of that ugly screen, and get 4.4.2 on here!!

Oh yeah....this was the Verizon Non-developer version. Customized from Moto Maker. 32 GB

Edit: Tried to RSD 4.4.2 so I didn't have to go through the upgrade process. Downloaded from this site: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=0

It initially didn't work, but all you have to do is delete the line between

It's something like: get_var ..... maxdownloadsize
[Moto X Q&A] TheDave1022:
If I'm on 4.4 with slap .5c, is there a need to RSD to stock before unlocking?
[Moto X Q&A] bigv5150:
No I didn't initially but after I unlocked I fxz save data to get any of the old root exploit wiped. Then used twrp to root.
[Moto X Q&A] Dark9781:
Quick question. I just purchased an unlock code and clicked on the icon to chat with the seller. The seller hasn't messaged me at all asking for my imei or email. I took it upon myself to send that info in the chat window. Is this normal? Has this happened to anyone else?
[Moto X Q&A] TheDave1022:
My code worked perfectly. Unlocked moto x now.
[Moto X Q&A] asatnik11:
What's the newest device this had been successful on? I'm wondering if Motorola will change their algorithm for newly manufactured devices to prevent this, or I'd they already have. This is assuming someone cracked their algorithm vs. a leaked unlock code list or an insider with access.
[Moto X Q&A] ericizzy1:
i dont get why no one here does this and collect all this money. be more than willing to pay a XDA known developer
[Moto X Q&A] cpetersen2791:
Well, I took the leap with the eBay buyer. They gave an Bank of America account number to deposit the funds into. Pretty trustworthy to give me a bank #. They got the $$ yesterday, and I was told today they guy in China was "swamped" and would take 48 hours. I am getting the ATT unlock. Will report back
[Moto X Q&A] FestiveFuit:
What Version did you buy? There are two on his store. One for 240 and one for 245. Just a little confused.
[Moto X Q&A] a1exus:
So, who do I need to contact in order for me to request a code?
[Moto X Q&A] TheDave1022:
There is a post a few pages back with a walkthrough on doing the transaction directly through the site. Turn around time was under 24 hours. Just use Chrome and translate the page..you can get through most of the stuff with the guide. Generate a virtual credit card number is also a smart thing, although the seller seems pretty good.
[Moto X Q&A] tdiman:
Following up - I got the code about 14 hours after I submitted my payment - I verified it just now and it worked. I have an unlocked bootloader and am rooted with my non developer edition Verizon Moto X.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Yes...
[Moto X Q&A] drewwegand:
So I'm running a stock non rooted XT1080 with 4.4 once i unlock i can except the the OTA for 4.4.2 then i install root and install twrp
[Moto X Q&A] mh0520:
Is there any likelihood of Motorola finding a way to patch this somehow or modify your device's unlock code with a bootloader update?

I'm considering buying a code just to hold on to in case somewhere down the line support drops and I want to unlock and start using custom ROMs, say for instance, after the warranty runs up. I just wouldn't want to buy a code and sit on it for a year or more only to find that the code no longer works because of some software change Motorola made.

Any guesses?
[Moto X Q&A] jideay:
If we have the 4.4.2 with root and no read write, should we flash a completely stock 4.4.2, or does the prior root matter?
[Moto X Q&A] :
Careful who you take advice from guys. Do a little digging before you do anything. Incomplete information can be a killer with this hobby. :)

Be especially careful following the seemingly instant experts that pop up occasionally. Lol

At the end of the day, we're all entitled to say, do or follow whatever we want. (Within xda rules....of course )

That's my advice. ;)

I'll leave this thread now. As entertaining as it can be.

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X Q&A] 640k:
where's the post?
[Moto X Q&A] cpetersen2791:
ATT Success

Just got mine 10 minutes ago, and it's valid. Best $46 i ever spend, a little slow but worth it.

LINK to EBAY Buyer: http://goo.gl/DEAqn3

the buyer gave me a Bank of America account number to do a wire transfer, but I just went to a local branch, and made a deposit into their account!

LINK to ATT Unlock purchased through EBay buyer: http://goo.gl/6258Uh

I deposited $$ into Bank of America account Tuesday @ 13:00 PDT, and got my code around 10:30 PDT on Thursday.
[Moto X Q&A] niodo:
I got my unlock code from the guy and am running the command fastboot oem unlock [unique key] but nothing is happening..Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?

Edit:

Nevermind, I'm an idiot.
[Moto X Q&A] TheDave1022:
http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/moto-x-vzw-bootloader-t2659234/post51016677
[Moto X Q&A] synchronous:
Success here. I have been running eclipse 3.2 for the past week. Updated to 3.2.2 today.
[Moto X Q&A] papi92:
If anyone needs help just PM me.