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[Samsung Gear 2] highlordkram:
If we cannot have the charging port built into the watch, at least this clip on version will be much better than the first Cradle.
[Samsung Gear 2] cuban4lf:
If fomey is in I'm all in... Only reason I still have the gear in the first place... Going to be a fantabulous spring after all . That is all for now . Peace
[Samsung Gear 2] JimSmith94:
That second video is the first I've heard or seen about the Neo having a plastic body. That sucks!
[Samsung Gear 2] CLARiiON:
Gear 2 compatible with:

- S5 / S4 / S3 / S4 Zoom/ S4 Active / S4 mini

- Note3 Neo / Grand2 / Note3 / Note 2 / Mega6.3 / Mega 5.8 /

- Note 10.1 2014 / Note pro 12.2 / Note Pro 10.1 / Note pro 8.4 / Tab pro 12.2.

Gear Fit : Above devices + Tab 3 devices.
[Samsung Gear 2] hackfree:
Why the do not fix compatibility for more Android phones
[Samsung Gear 2] AstroDigital:
Do I really need to say because Samsung wants you to buy Samsung devices?
[Samsung Gear 2] CLARiiON:
Seshu Madhavapeddy, senior VP at Samsung Telecommunications
[Samsung Gear 2] greaet:
Really interested in what would [MENTION=1620550]fOmey[/MENTION] have to say on this.
[Samsung Gear 2] raiu:
SDK released already

http://reviews.cnet.com/8301-13970_7-57619545-78/samsung-wants-you-to-make-gear-2-apps-asap/
[Samsung Gear 2] hurdlejade:
in other words, our developers are so lazy, and our touchwiz is so bloated in the roots of the system that it's just too many mouse clicks to make it fully compatibible with other android devices. noone expects s voice to work on nexus device, right?

i'm really worried that samsung already released SDK for unreleased devices, while there is still nothing for Gear 1.
[Samsung Gear 2] jonstatt:
It is interesting how people reacted to the Gear 1. The ability to integrate the wires for a speaker and camera into a watch strap is rather inspired and a bit of a technical feat. Putting the speaker into the buckle is likely to have allowed for a larger speaker and therefore the speaker on the Gear 2 may not be as good. Also, the camera will be nearer other electronics which means the image may be more influenced by noise/interference from the other parts of the watch.

I also agree with the poster above who said the new watches remind him of the watches in the 80s that had calculators and TV remotes built into them.

Ultimately I understand the reasons people didn't like the design of the Gear 1, but the changes are not really an improvement, but more of a simplification and ultimately should result in a price drop with the new design.

The reason I think the Gear 2 has come out so quickly is because Samsung could not correct the wrongs they did by releasing the product before it was ready. Now you can get up to 4 days with the Gear 1 and normal usage...you can get notifies for any application including a decent preview of the content of a message or email etc. But those changes were after all the reviews were out there and Samsung needed to release a Gear 2 just to get a clean slate to start again from.

I don't feel in any rush to sell my Gear 1 for a Gear 2.....it does what I need. I didn't think the microphone and speaker would be much use until I started to use it. I left my phone in my bedroom, had my watch on and was downstairs in the kitchen. I was able to answer the phone and have a quick conversation easily using the watch. I then sent a text to my wife by voice dictation in seconds once again without touching the phone. I think the Gear 1 has been misunderstood and sorely under-rated
[Samsung Gear 2] greaet:
Wow, that's the wonderful review I have ever read about Gear 1 with proper justification. Thanks a lot and this has just made me confirm my Gear 1 purchase. Just waiting for the official price drop ;)
[Samsung Gear 2] raiu:
Agreed, the 80s-90s called they want their watch back. I know I will go to the store and test it out once they are out but i'm in no rush to go get one matter of fact im looking for an orange one that would be my second watch. I am very happy even with it being stock.
[Samsung Gear 2] CLARiiON:
You you love to complain a lot, don't you??

Here's a free tip -- if you know so much, why don't you do it yourself?? Gear works with certain Samsung devices. They told you this 1000 times. If you don't like it go buy a Pebble or Sony Smartwatch. It's not like Samsung is putting a gun to your head and making you buy this Gear.

The guy is a senior VP. I am sure he knows more about the gear than you do. If you knew more, you would have been the VP..

/rant
[Samsung Gear 2] fOmey:
Thats great..

Hehe, its no mistake that the gear series dont work out of the box with other phones..

Were talking about huge teams of developers, if they wanted cross-platform compatibility it would happen.

You would have to wait for the nexus smartwatch for something like that.
[Samsung Gear 2] lukasz:
Movie answered my question about the cradle... it is smaller now - so possible to keep it in the pocket "just in case"

All around it seems to be small improvements in several fields..

Tthe KEY for the decision buy/wait till V3 (I guess September with NOTE4 in Berlin) will be if it will be possible to run android apps.. I want to have my Jinasys battery widget, ability to create quick dial icons with pictures using APW widgets, have Nova launcher set up as I want it to, run good calculator (modern calculator+), run hill climb race, etc.

Maybe for V3 they will take Galaxy Fit http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vs0aBxVSSPU&feature=c4-overview&list=UU2C-970d2o-YGLPqsG6FcWQ make it twice the width, twice more battery, memory, 4MP camera - and it is going to be "it" ?
[Samsung Gear 2] everlast716:
Someone said it best, either you are a Samsung fan or you're not...Apple does not get nearly as much backlash for creating devices that only work within the Apple ecosystem. If you don't like Samsung phones, then don't get the gear. Buy a pebble or wait for the Google watch...simple. I for one will have my Note 3 at least for another year so depending on the price point for the Gear 2, I definitely see myself getting one.

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As far as it looking like the Calculator watch of the 80s, gimme a break, it is thinner and lighter than the Gear 1, and doesn't have a ugly bump on the band for the camera, other than that it looks the same but better. So you are saying the gear 2 looks like a calculator watch but the Gear 1 doesn't? Oooook then. I will be honest too, as a child of the 80's and 90's, I wanted a calculator watch baaad!
[Samsung Gear 2] jonstatt:
There are a couple of us that thinks the Gear 2 reminds us of a calculator watch from the 80s. The Gear 1 has a smooth curved top all the way across. The Gear 2 has a raised square that stops this smooth continuity. This is just an opinion but Gear 1 looked futuristic focusing on the long curve whereas Gear 2 looks more boxy and detracts from the curved aspect. I think that is the price being paid for moving the speaker and camera to the main body. Like I said, it was actually a stroke of genius to be able to embed the wiring in the strap and distribute the components. I am not saying it is a runaway success because some really didn't like it...but it is unique and I don't think has ever been done before.
[Samsung Gear 2] everlast716:
I see your point. I had to compare images of both to see what you meant. I think it will be cool to swap custom bands as well, where you couldn't do that with the gg because it had those components built in to the band. I thought about buying the gg but honestly glad I waited for the second iteration. I guess to each his own lol...
[Samsung Gear 2] jonstatt:
I am sure the second iteration will have a lot of good things about it and hopefully will be a better success because I truly believe in the smartwatch as more than a gimmick and I want to see Sony and Samsung (and others like the Pebble) pushing the technology boundaries further in this area. My purpose for singing praises of the Gear 1 was because a lot of people latched onto the first reviews which were well deserved, but don't represent the Gear 1 as it is today with the much improved firmware. It is possible we may see a price drop on the Gear 1 shortly before the Gear 2 release and it might make a good bargain purchase!

Incidentally I have the Sony Smartwatch 2 as well and while it has a great many applications to choose from I found it hard to get past the lack lustre LCD screen which makes black look like grey. When you compare it the OLED and much higher resolution Samsung it really looks poor. But it did get the application support which Samsung has so far failed to get.

Long live the smartwatch :)
[Samsung Gear 2] agiorgitis:
Since gear 1 will be updated to tizen, and the hardware remains the same on both devices, apps will be compatible with both gears...
[Samsung Gear 2] hurdlejade:
yeah, let's hope so. but what if i wanted to develop android app for gear, not a tizen app?

i can't. lame samsung.

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i had Sony SW2 and it was rather terrible. other than the extra notification app, there was literally zero anything useful due to lags, or irresponsive screen. Sony SW2 is a perfect example how not to make a smartwatch.. although it's huge improvement compared to first version.
[Samsung Gear 2] greaet:
This is the first user review quoting negative about SW2. Anyways, talking about Gear's usage, I am pasting my points from another forum after a bit of editing:

99% of the reviews online were trying to destroy the Gear image just because it is not compatible with other android devices. Someone has posted a quote by the VP of Samsung telecommunications on why it is not compatible with other devices and it says many features will not work in other devices. For example, Smart stay, S voice etc. Fair enough.

Price was the only drawback I could think of but now it looks like ATT is selling it for $199 which IMHO is a very good price. I'm in India so just waiting for the price drop here.

Talking about battery life, I don't think its a huge disadvantage. If I am right, everyone removes their watch before going to sleep. If it was me, I would put it in charge and sleep. Also, it looks like the latest updates give a battery life of 2-3 days which is very good. I just wish that people don't come to a conclusion before 1st week of usage as everyone would fiddle with it to know the features which would eventually reduce the battery life.

Cheers. Forgive me for any grammatical errors. English isn't my native language.

Take care!
[Samsung Gear 2] david279:
I think im gonna get the gear fit even though i have a n5. It seems some of the function are independent. Some of the fitness stuff probably needs s-health for logging. But every video i've seen of it in action it looks like the fitness stuff done right on the device. My only wild card is Tizen and how it interacts with a android besides touchwizzy. If i can get my n5 to tether with Tizen then there maybe hope for more functionality.
[Samsung Gear 2] markyboy81:
I also have the SW2 as well as the gear and agree with most of what you say about the SW2 screen apart from the fact that the SW2 screen is always on, which is a big plus. Although the gear has the wake up gesture, this doesn't always work as expected, especially if you're discreetly trying to check the time during a meeting!

I bought the SW2 as I also have an s4 zoom and the gear doesn't work with it yet. Interesting to see another post stating that gear 2 will work with s4 zoom - I'm assuming this will only be when the zoom is updated to 4.3, if/when this ever happens..
[Samsung Gear 2] LaDamian:
I have thought about the compatibility topic a lot, and I really think Samsung missed the boat on this. They have created a quality product at a mid range price point that works well with their devices and doesn't have much in the way of competition. Some part time hackers were able to get it to work with other devices. It should not have been that hard for someone with the source code to make it work with other products.

Any reasonable person might think that if they made this available to a larger audience out of the box (such as most android and iPhone users), they would have a much larger customer base. This user base would possibly enjoy their build quality and buy more Samsung devices. Instead, they went about it backwards and tried to make it only compatible with Note 3 at launch. I doubt that most people that wanted a gear wanted it enough to buy a note 3. I only got one because I had a note 2, and they finally made it compatible.

I was really hoping they would fix compatibility with the gear 2, but evidently no one within the company is willing to challenge the business model that has proven to be unsuccessful. Long story short, Samsung needs to get their heads out of their collective butts and draw people in with their build quality. That is how you get loyal customers, not by alienating potential consumers.
[Samsung Gear 2] greaet:
Very true. Companies and their narrow minds. No one wants to think of the consumers. We should really appreciate Sony in this.
[Samsung Gear 2] hurdlejade:
guys don't get me wrong.

SW2 is a solid device, but it's hardly "smart" in my opinion. it does nothing than showing time, giving notifications and setting an alarm.

all the other features - like media controller (is there a stock app for that? it was on the box, but never in the firmware) - are highly overrated. When I was using it before Gear 1 it partially wasn't working, or was taking a lot of time to load. The screen is terrible, but does work better in sunlight.

There are some other apps like ebook reader, speedometer, tetris, remote camera view etc but they are gimmick. They do not work as expected.

And on the Gear.. I have everything as I do on my phone/tablet. It syncs perfectly. I can make calls, take pictures, record audio and videos. Just for 100 usd more (199 for rubber band, 249 for steel version and 299 for gear 1). Price is justified compared to other available smartwatches but yeah, Gear won't get a lot of attention until they open it for other devices.. even if it means we can't use S things like smart relay and so. I would not miss them anyway.
[Samsung Gear 2] jonstatt:
Sony did the same thing as Samsung in a way...releasing a product before it was ready. Sony had a bunch of features they had indicated in demos and promotional literature prior to its release. This included things like auto-brightness for the display and a stop-watch. There is a media player app for the Sony, but it is very clunky as it tries to display album art and is slow and cumbersome to use. The widget media player that was shown in the marketing has never appeared but the auto-brightness and stopwatch did eventually.

Nobody has yet come up with the obvious app for a smartwatch....navigation! You are in the centre of London and you want walking directions to a restaurant....you come out of the train station....what to do? You don't want to get a big bulky Note 3 and hold it out infront of you ...both for security reasons and looking like a muppet. But it would make sense for your watch to vibrate every time it wanted to alert you to turn and to show a directional arrow and distance! I found that the phone still gets a GPS signal while in my pocket, so this is definitely possible.
[Samsung Gear 2] hurdlejade:
would it be possible to do a script in tasker or some other app, that would take a screenshot of the navigation (let's say google maps) running on your note 3, and push it to galaxy gear? since it would be mostly done for walking, the refresh rate does not have to be that high and smooth..

but i think it would be a battery killer anyway. i tried to run Sygic offline navigation but that did not work.
[Samsung Gear 2] everlast716:
Pebble has apps for gps and navigation...
[Samsung Gear 2] spinedoc:
I thought I had read that the Sony SW would be getting Navigation through Garmin? Of course it's a monthly fee, but it looked pretty cool.
[Samsung Gear 2] jonstatt:
Someone did create an app for the SW2 that showed a phone screen crop of a google map on the watch which was quite cool but Google didn't like it for some reason and made him pull the app. I didn't know there was some app from Garmin on its way though! I didn't know Pebble had navigation either.

Definitely a hole for Samsung to fill then :)
[Samsung Gear 2] CLARiiON:
Gear Fit is NOT based on Tizen. It runs on a proprietary RTOS (QNX is also a RTOS). The SDK is also different from Gear 2 SDK. You can't build standalone/independent apps for Gear Fit. The Gear Fit SDK allows your native Android app to communicate/provide notification to Gear Fit. In a sense, it would be tough to 'hack' the Gear Fit compared to a Gear 2. But since the SDK for Gear Fit basically allows notification/communication channel, I think this could have better compatibility compared to Gear 2.

So does Gear --

How to navigate with HERE on a Samsung Galaxy Gear
[Samsung Gear 2] xManMythLegend:
Does anybody know if Gear 2 and Gear fit screens are always on...or still require a gesture ?

Gear fit looks beautiful on...but if it's going to be off most of the time it just looks like a dead screen.
[Samsung Gear 2] xiaotuo:
I have used Gear 1 (stock) several months now and can't see going back being without it. After seeing Gear 2 I love my Gear 1 even more. I see no reason whatsoever to upgrade (?) it. High hopes for Gear 3 though.
[Samsung Gear 2] Solyomszem:
Gear (2?) for running and fitness

Hi Guys,

I'd like to use Gear as a fitness watch mainly for running. Actually the lack of internal GPS makes me carrying my phone as well, so I would mainly miss the advantage of Gear2 altogether.

What do You think about the reliability of the heart rate monitoring method Samsung has included with Gear 2?

I've read that somebody is using Gear with a heart rate monitor. So it is possible. What do You think on getting a Galaxy Gear instead of waiting for Gear 2.

Can someone summarize what features would I miss if I stay with Galaxy Gear instead of getting the new Gear 2? (I would surely root and put custom ROM on Galaxy Gear...)

Thanks,

Balázs
[Samsung Gear 2] willcor:
hi ,

first a few pointers ( my opinion)

the Gear is only a few months old ( 5..6 mths ? ) and i still am enjoying it .!!

But been the person i am( always willing to try out new "tech ") ,i will either get Gear 2 or the fit ( have not decided yet )

Android is wat i "favour" not Tizen, but..yes we'll see ?

Running ? you want to use it for running ,well yes ,

i am using the gear with 3rd party hart rate app ( Runtastic pro and a Polar h7 bluetooth chest monitor )

Samsung has an other option, ANT+, but you have to have a ANT+ chest hart rate monitor and this works with S health.

(Plse note ,i do not know to much about this .)

The Runtastic Gear app , works 100% no problem !!.

However it is a paid app

( there is a Runtastic free app ,but it has not got hart rate" function"/ readings .)

Further to Runtastic Pro app on phone ,they have a " extention "

Runtastic Gear app ( in Samsung store), that installs on watch .

For GPS options,best is to carry phone ( i have Note 3 )

runtastic watch , communicates with phone( Runtastic pro app) and you use gps within this app.

All relevant info is relayed to your Gear watch .

I have a Polar watch ,but this is much better..!!

(i am using stock NA6 ,no root ..no problems )

However ,the Gear 2 will have similar option ( ? yes, i believe, maybe a 3 party app ? )

but that hart rate "gimmick" function you see is similar to 3 rd party apps 'Instant hart rate " and others etc ...,

that use your phone camera , to give a reading This" sensor" will only have it underneath watch etc .

I tested these " hart rate apps" they are accurate,but to use it continiously for 1 to 2 hours

(during a run ), relaying info ???

On my Gear i have music loaded and a music video or two ,

I play these using /sideloaded Quickpic and use this ,to play music and video

Works 100%

.(Plse note this is only a "cool factor ".... that i can do it.!)

Only hassle is, i cannot relay to bluetooth earpiece ,what the Gear 2 appently can ?

Bottom line

What ever you decide ..i know you will enjoy it !!!

good luck

(see screenshots to give you an idea !)
[Samsung Gear 2] a10ciod:
I heard Gear 2 is like an apology for the original Gear being so dull. Gear seemed like a flop to a lot of folks although Im easily impressed. WOuld be nice if Samsung would do a trade-in offer for the Gear 2 as an apology towards us who bought it the second it hit the Gear hit the shelves.
[Samsung Gear 2] markyboy81:
I don't agree that the gear was a flop. I've tried the pebble and smartwatch 2 and prefer the gear overall. However the price that Samsung set was too high - luckily I was able to pick one up for about half the price.

I'm tempted by the gear 2 but I'm not sure it offers enough to warrant an upgrade
[Samsung Gear 2] everlast716:
I was semi excited about the gear 2....but that dissipated with today's announcement of the Moto 360. What a beautiful smart watch! Samsung with its limited compatibility and square, ugly, bulky paperweight of a watch, just has no chance against the Google wearable soon to flood the industry. Moto 360 to be released this summer, yeah I can wait 3-5 months for it.
[Samsung Gear 2] AstroDigital:
Moto 360 like many Motorola products may be delayed ....

I think (my own opinion) LG G Watch by Android Wear, is the future and it will happen long before Moto 360.

Google still owns Motorola Mobility until the sale is finalized and they could not get Motorola Mobility to build a watch before LG?

Tizen stands no hope (sorry Samsung)

The Gear Fit, will sell and find its place (I may get one) but the Gear 2 ..... no sorry if I decide to replace my Gear I will likely go with the LG G Watch.
[Samsung Gear 2] fletch33:
i should start making judgements like this about everything in my life i have not seen yet. bet i would get far!
[Samsung Gear 2] AstroDigital:
Oh ... ok point well taken I should say "may" but "likely" if you missed the word means "may".

I did say my own opinion, and why it is my opinion the Gear 2 Tizen is a failure both Motorola and LG will go with Android Wear.

What OS stands a better chance?

Samsung only Tizen, which likely (may) will only work with Samsung products.

Or Android Wear, based on Android developed for devices like Smartwatches and has multiple vendors.

In my own opinion.
[Samsung Gear 2] fletch33:
fair enough but as much as I have always loved Motorola stuff lets wait and see how open it will be. i would be willing to bet it will be locked down like Fort Knox therefore making it no fun for me as i enjoy adding my own flavor to everything.
[Samsung Gear 2] jonstatt:
Agreed. I said earlier in this thread that I suspect that the Gear 2 is cheaper to make by sticking the camera and speaker in the main watch block. I know some don't like it, but fitting micro-wiring INSIDE the strap so that it can reach a camera and a speaker in the buckle is quite amazing to be honest, and probably rather expensive. I suspect the camera in the Gear 2 is more likely to be affected by noise from the watch circuitry and the speaker is less likely to go as loud as there is less space for it in the watch housing.

The only thing is if you fancy a heart rate meter strapped to your wrist which arguably makes a LOT more sense than sticking one on the back of the phone. You are hardly going to go running around with your phone strapped to your finger!!