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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AcemanX:
Woah, hold on there fella

don't be so quick to feel this way my fellow note brother! The note line has been unique it's in own way, the note 2 was, at it's time of release, the fastest android out there, and the Note 3, when it came out, was the fastest android out there, and the Note 3 was amazingly ridiculous with huge upgrades that had never even been seen in a cellphone, it had 3 world firsts, (3GB ram, micro usb 3.0, and 4k recording). The note 4 won't be any different, I guarantee you it rocks that 2k resolution with the near edge to edge screen exactly like those patents leaked a while back that even clearly showed a stylus. Theres also 20MP camera's in the works, and the processor it will have will coincide with Qualcomm's latest 805s AND Exynos6's so they'll most likely do the same thing as note 3, us gets lte qualcomm, world gets exynos6.

On the other hand, I don't know why the S5 is such a let down as it is, and I was even considering using t-mobile's JUMP program to get it, but now forget it my note 3 destroys this thing, i mean,

1. its resolution is the same as those out there, nothing new,

2. on board storage, again nothing new, 16/32, (at least note 3 was 32/64),

3. 2GB ram is also subpar when you have 3GB on the note 3

4. I cant believe it didn't come with hardware OiS. I pray to god it comes on the Note 4's rumoured 20MPs..

Granted new sensors rocks, fingerprint sensors, hearrtrate monitor, wat/erdust repellent, but that's not going to be enough to sway Note 3 users over...let the previous S generations get this, keep the bleeding edge technology for the series that earns it, The Note Series.

NoteFanboy
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kaze105:
With the phone slightly disappointing to me and that the AT&T will come with a locked bootloader for sure, seems like the S4 will be my last samsung phone. Guess ill wait for a Nexus or consider an LG or Sony (like the Camera)
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmoreboy02:
Im sure apple dosent think it was a disappointment
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sherrillface:
I won't know until we see how it feels in hand and if it will support voodoo sons or what type of mods but to me it looks dope just the fact it still has external SD is top of my list so many phones would be 100 times better if that my nexus 4 would be awesome with external storage and better cam.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankgreimes:
At least there seams to be a little competition right now. If Samsung decides to go topend only for the Phablet known as Note then oh well other companies are looking for customers...
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] harlz:
Not disappointed I just don't care about this phone. The specs are fine, anyone expecting a 2k display for a 5" phone should realise it's over kill.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mscott:
Understood, but with my old phone and my wife's m7, portrait mode is not the "bad" angle. I spend 99% of the time in portrait mode.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kpirnie:
Its really not the hardwares fault. The s4 and s5 physically have great cameras.

The software behind it tho... less than to be desired.

Personally I bought A Better Camera from play store and noticed a huge difference off the bat...

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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Yeah at Best Buy I tried it next to the Note 3 and the home button took WAY longer to turn on the screen and, well, go to the home screen.

I'm talking hundreds of milliseconds here.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
i think it has to do with the recent anti-glare/reflection stuff they put on the screen....
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndreiLux:
Actually had it in my hands today.

Horrible.

I can't fathom they were thinking with those bezels and edges. I complained about the raised edges on the S4 but the S5's are 3 times thicker and higher. They seem to be have managed to do a whole regression back to S1 levels regarding this, with the S3 being the best in terms of ergonomics on the screen and phone in general. Saving grace is that the new back cover actually feels very grippy and nice.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puremind:
I just put the smartphone face up into my pants or just put them into my jacket. The M8 GE edition will not have the Swipe gesture only double tap so maybe you need that version.

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S3 had more bezel. S4 had smallest bezel but fragile. S5 feels studier but has larger bezel.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Thanks bro, I did play with both in store and preferred the S5 but that was just a 20-30 min hands on on both devices.

The M8 is faster than the S5, but not only the S5, every other device in the market as well. But that's fine, those split seconds are not a big deal at all, and I hear now that the so called lag on the S5 is very minor stutter here and there and most of it is on the my magazine which I absolutely loathe.

Honestly when I had my hands on the M8, besides the incredible speed nothing else blew me away, Not a thing. I didn't even pay attention to the build quality, I did try the speakers and they were great but so were they on the M7, and sense felt exactly the same as it does in the M7. Basically it was like using a taller M7.

So we'll see, I'll be ready to purchase a phone soon and I'll go with my gut feeling. But thanks for the tips!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WizeGuyDezignz:
Of course man, any time! Yeah the M8 was super unimpressive to me other than the speed. I felt like I was going to damage the device every time that I held it. So I ended up getting that dot matrix case from a Verizon store which was an absolute joke. Not only was it overpriced, but the functionality of it was terrible and it made the once metal phone and turned it into plastic.

And it is too tall, the bezels suck and it was heavy and cumbersome to hold. With a case it becomes a chore to use.

And Sense lol. So incredibly boring. But we've had all the discussions about that lol.

Good luck bro!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
The back cover saves the day. Its so much better than the hyper glaze we had on the S3 and S4.

I personally don't mind the bigger bezel, may not look the best but it adds some protection. The S5 will survive drops much better than the S4 with its thin bezels.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndreiLux:
I'm talking about the raised rim on the bezel. The S5's is by far the biggest of all Galaxy series.

People caring about protection need a case. Not everybody is so clumsy.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
The GPE has the swipe to unlock motion gesture also.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] puremind:
I read that at least 1 gesture won't make it to the GE version! Which was it then?
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
You can't swipe in specific directions and have those swipes open different places. On the regular M8, up goes wherever you left off, left to right goes to blinkfeed, and right to left goes to the home screen. With the GPE, all directions take you to where you left off. Also, you can't double tap the lock screen to relock like you can on the normal one.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dragon135:
The raised rim is good for protection/drop like in S2. Thicker bezel also protect the screen more.

What I don't like/understand most is why they increase screen size to 5.1inch with same resolution. Why not just use 5inch like in S4. It is surely a regression.

Its is ok 5.1inch if the phone size is similar to S4. But S5 is much much wider and taller than S4 despite only add 0.1inch screen. I think they make screen bigger so it fit for bigger battery and the useless heart rate HW.

This is the reason I won't buy S5.

S3 is the best ergonomic, S4 is the best looking. I wish they made S3 design with 5inch screen + matte back

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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] leoaudio13:
Its for other hardware. Screen size is not matter here imo. In order to squeeze everything in they have to redesign the phone board ( the schematic will tell ). And in some of the vids on internet shown a bit different in overall structural. Thats why a 5.1" but not 5"
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MykOne:
I've had my S5 for almost a week now and happy with it
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tornado92:
not as expected...:p so not so impressed
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Sensamic:
I noticed the same thing playing with an S5 on Monday.

It has some small stutter here and there, but the most annoying thing was the feeling that the phone is not fast. I had the Nexus 5 and it was blazing fast. The S5 was slow opening apps, entering the multitasking window and opening apps from there, waking the screen on, etc.

This was the ultimate reason I decided not to buy it. After trying the speed of a Nexus it's really hard to settle for the slowness of the S5.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
It'll probably be better on ART, but again: the heavy UI and slow touch latency add up to a fairly poor experience speed wise.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] claud0902:
S5 is big. However it is the smallest android flagship of 2014. Just take a look at the m8 and z2. To me, the screen against body size ratio is very important and the S5 is still in the acceptable range.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
You can't simply compare both. Stock and OEM are completely different beasts, like another version of Android itself. "Skins" are way more than just looks.

Enviado do meu Galaxy S4
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
Have you got any results of the 'slow' touch latency compared to other models because I can't find any info.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I haven't found any quantitative tests. However, it's fairly easy to tell what's faster by tapping on an app at the same time. The icons turn a bit grey right before they launch, and they do this immediately when they notice your touch. When I did this test, I could easily notice with my naked eye that the S5 was slower than my 5s. When I tested the M8 against my 5s, I could immediately tell it was faster (although tests have shown that already). One could easily recreate my testing, so you may go to a store and try it out if you want ;)

I also tried scrolling quickly in menus, and it was also obvious that the iPhone had less lag. The S5 doesn't follow your finger as well. I feel like the S5 is maybe a little less or about the same as the S4.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
I only have my note 2 to compare against which is like night and day. Good enough for me :)

Would still like to see some comparison charts though because I'm a bit geeky like that ;)
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Yeah I have been scouring the internet for info about this, but there's no testing that's been done yet :(

Definitely a step up from the Note 2 though XD
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
I swear ppl are whining too much. I had my hands on the S5 before but its not the same as having it in your hands without the wires and all. Someone at my job got it and the phone is so awesome in hands, it's crazy. So comfortable and the screen is absolutely fantastic. It feels very sturdy. The bui?d quality complaints are absurd to say the least.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dandroid13:
This waiting is killing me, can't wait! :silly:;)
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
Dude without exaggerating the phone looks stunning, its so beautiful. The screen...OMG! Even Michael Fisher from pocket now said that its very different when you see the pics of the S5 vs in real life, the videos and pictures don't do it justice.

Now I see why ppl that have both phones can't let go of the S5.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] socalwrx:
Just got my S5 in today. Came from an S4 and so far loving it. Only first thorn that stuck out was the crappy front facing camera. Why is there so much noise compared to the S4?!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
I've used it without the wires and I agree: it feels and looks fantastic!

The M8 definitely feels inferior to me than the S5, especially because it's so slippery and fragile.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beefheart:
I have returned my S5, simply because the improvements and additions over my S4 weren't enough to justify a new 2 year contract. So yes, it was a disappointment, but only because I was coming from an S4. Had I been upgrading from a Galaxy S2 or even an S3, it would be enough of an improvement to justify the upgrade.

Now I'm waiting for the Snapdragon 810 Galaxy Note 4.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jagrave:
So it's going to have the s810 or s805?thought s810 was next year??
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] WizeGuyDezignz:
No disrespect, but who in the world does 2 year contracts anymore? No flagship smartphones are built for that anymore. It almost seems like you created your own disappointment and are in that neverending technology waiting game for the next best thing.

You won't win that battle my friend, I promise. No matter how long you wait for the Note 4 and no matter how good the specs are, there will be something lurking right around the corner that will have better specs than it, look better than it, etc. It's an endless cycle.

With all that being said, I am super happy with the S5 and think it's a nice upgrade if you dig deeper than the surface. And as an example, it's much more of an upgrade over the S4 than the M8 is over the M7. Just look at the screen improvements as a starting point.

But of course you gotta do what makes sense for you. Good luck! :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jopa7:
Have both M8 and Galaxy S5 (have two if including one demo unit). Big disappointment relatively to S5... I think the main problem is the chronic lag in the touch wiz. Concerning fingerprint scanner even my HTC Max is way superior. Can't understand why people keep giving money to Samsung. Always the same cheap plastic, bad lagging UI etc. Wake up people. Save the 700 euros and spend them in good hardware/UI like HTC M8 or LG G2 or Nokia 1520 for God sake. Just my opinion and I can talk because I have tried them all. Cheers
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tony_k55:
I am happy, but the fingerprint reader react crappy!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankgreimes:
The S810 will come next year, the 805 this year. Took almost an hour to compare the m8 and S5 today and seriously the S5 is superior when it comes down to handling but it just doesn't feel as snappy as the S4 active maybe because of all the bloat. Although the s5 is better when it comes down to navigation both really aren't made for one hand navigation unbelievable how much difference 1 inch can make. After some getting used to it I did manage to reach the top corners by activating one hand view on the s5 and changing my grip on the m8 far from comfortable in my mind.

The speakers on the m8 are great but in terms of headphone volume both phones are very loud and that's more important to me. The HTC bezel really sucks I don't know why HTC added this thing it takes away from the screen and compared to the s5 it just can't compete with a physical home button.

I did like the sense better than touchwiz but in fact both aren't as nice as a stock. Blinkfeed easily beats my magazine although to me both are useless I would rather switch through homescreens. In terms of cameras it really is no competition the s5 is far superior and very fast in terms of auto focus BUT some of the former camera modes must now be downloaded AND aren't for free anymore.

Comparing the s5 and s4 advanced was a bit easier and I'very tried hard the only noticeable difference between the two is the great power saving mode and slightly worse camera but also 320 euro difference. My personal view so far would be buying the s4 advanced and use the remaining money for something else.

Tldr: winner s5 best bang for your bucks = s4 advanced best looking = HTC

As for why people are choosing Samsung:

- massive xda support

- removable battery yes that's important for a lot of users

- SD card support

- great handling compared to other 5 inches

HTC had the chance to beat Samsung this year but their phone has less CPU speed, no physical home button a very annoying HTC bezel bottom center, bad camera and a non removable battery
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
The screen is great one handed if you use 'shrink mode'.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] apprentice:
It depends in which country you live in. Here in the UK it's pretty much standard now, very difficult to get anything less than 2 years.

I try where possible to buy phones contract free but flagship devices again are considerably more expensive to buy this side of the Atlantic.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beefheart:
Firstly, the majority of contracts are 24 month contracts, or at least in the UK. You can get 12 month contracts, but you will be paying £70+ a month for a flagship device assuming you want a usable tariff. Of course, you have the option of buying the phone sim free and then getting a pay monthly sim deal. But that would involve paying out £500+ up front for the phone. I have better things to spend my money on, especially given that once you take the talk plan cost into account over a similar period you're not actually saving much, if anything. I'm curious as to what you had in mind as the alternative, perhaps you'd like to clarify.

And secondly, of course there is always going to be something around the corner which is better than what is on offer at any particular time. But the point I'm making is that that corner isn't too far away with the S5. It's got the Snapdragon 801 in it, a chipset still based on 28nm technology and little more than a slightly upgraded 800. The next generation of Qualcomm will be based on 20nm, which means better battery life and less heat.

I used the S5 for four days and performed numerous side by side comparisons with my S4. And at the end of the day it is of course the better phone, although the camera isn't the step up that was made out by many. But overall it's not enough of an upgrade to take that new contract. The fact you say it's more of an upgrade from the S4 than the M8 is from the M7 is irrelevant.

I'm happy to wait on my sim only plan on my S4 and see what hits the shelves early next year.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andymihail:
Given the fact that my S4 went to my wife, I'm completely satisfied with my new S5, but I have to admit that the S4 owners better wait for S6.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] barondebxl:
You can't understand why ppl keep giving money to Samsung and yet you have the S5....
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Apoxx:
Initially on the unveiling I was disappointed, but it kinda grew on me and I ended up getting one.

Couldn't be happier, such a great device. And it looks sooo much better in person than on those silly press images.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
Great update for me coming from a note2. Much better camera, touchscreen, feels great in the hand and obviously faster amongst other things. As other posters have stated it looks a lot better in real life than In pictures.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andymihail:
I can't understand people on xda complaining about UI lagging, when we all know that most of us will root the device as soon as we get home with the new phone, then flash a custom recovery, custom rom with no bloatware and then try to gain better performance in all areas (sound etc.) using different mods. Then again you have the regular user who never heard of xda or custom Roms. Should I care about them experiencing lag on touchwiz? It really makes no sense. As far as I'm concerned, I do prefer plastic then aluminum on a phone for many different reasons, and the removable battery I think is a much more important quality in a phone.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
To be honest, that lag is pretty much /all/ touch latency. The M8 has 70ms less latency than the S5, and that alone makes it feel way more sluggish. There are parts of the TouchWiz UI that are just slow in general, but 90% of it is the latency. That can't be fixed with ROMs/a GPE, so no matter what you do the M8 will still be noticeably quicker.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
Can you direct me to the s5 touch latency tests against the M8 as I still can't find anything online.

I know I asked before, but you seem to have more info this time.

Thanks.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] frankgreimes:
People are complaining about that for two reasons:

1. well that's obvious the first impression and if your first impression with a flagship phone is lack -- -> not good for the company and the "average" customer

2. we don't know if it's soft or hardwarebased. Keep in mind + 1 inch = more performance needed and the S5 is not that much of an upgrade specwise. Because if this thing is hardware based no custom ROM, Root is going to fix that. One thing though is for sure the S5 would have really benefited from 3gig + RAM.

As for plastic yup exactly my feelings and like others have said the phone DOES NOT look cheap when you see it in person and the grip is way better than on the M8. The best way to hold the M8 securely is to crap it hard because it's way more slippery than the S5/S4. Sadly I also wanted to try out the Z 2 but wasn't available so that has to wait.

As for contracts well in Austria you sadly don't have much choice there are 3 big carriers and they control everything so 24 month contracts are pretty much standard here.
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eyecon82:
I agree. If my s4 hadn't been lost, I would not have upgraded

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[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
Sure! There's yet another test that's come out that says the S5 has 91ms (without AirView on):

http://translate.googleusercontent....9.html&usg=ALkJrhg7ICnAAe8xEFcIDvfnjnW2XQdMAw

Here's a picture of the post I saw:
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simacca:
Thanks :)
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SolarTrans:
No problem man!
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jopa7:
This is only my opinion based on my own experience. Luckily i don't have to pay for any of my phones, I get them for free and this let me experiment all devices and build an opinion about them. Unfortunately the majority people don't have this luck and have to choose one device. Not saying Samsung is bad, just saying that there are better choices available for your money. But hey, this is just my humble opinion. This topic is about S5 and not other phones and the question was about being disappointment or not and yes I'm disappointed. Perhaps I'm too exigent
[Galaxy S 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Phreaker47:
Coming from a 0G Razr Maxx it would be difficult for me to be disappointed with my new S5. But regardless of being in a position to be easily impressed, it still seems this is the best choice. Just upgraded my TVs to Sammys (7100 for the living room, new 2014 model 6350 for the bedroom) so it's also a nice bonus to have that near seamless integration. Screen mirroring is the ****e. I don't know if I could do that on another phone. Is Screen Mirroring standardized or proprietary?

I sort of saw the M8's curved metal back as a dealbreaker. I want wireless charging and I'll have it as soon as they get the battery covers out the door (Come on Sammy/Amazon, got preorders with both of you... race for my money!)

Protip: you can preorder this as a backorder from Samsung without providing billing information, so put that second preorder in without fear!