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[Galaxy S 5 General] degast:
People have to realise that a good camera isn't necessarily going to turn them into great photographers.

Giving a 10.000$ DSLR to a toddler means your pictures will still be ****.

When taking pictures, try to focus on an element you want to stand out and also make sure that object is lit reasonably.

I'll be posting some pictures here later when I receive my S5.
[Galaxy S 5 General] hetalmp:
What's your favourite camera mode on the S5. I've just downloaded the additional mode surround shot and am very impressed by it. Works very well on out door pictures
[Galaxy S 5 General] gavinfabl:
Just to be fair it's blue skies today so I went out shooting more photos. The result in perfect conditions was spectacular. I've uploaded to my Flickr.
[Galaxy S 5 General] system.img:
The results are absolutely stellar in bright sunlight.

Can you do a comparison with M8 in the same conditions? I have noticed that M8 struggles to get the exposure right in bright conditions.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gavinfabl:
I have done some with M8 on a different day. It's sometimes necessary to drop exposure by 1. Or use hdr. But it's easy to do and you know after using it when it's needed.
[Galaxy S 5 General] jntdroid:
I downloaded them from your Flickr to make sure I was looking at the original, and I still see a lack of clarity and some "mud"/artifacts. That shouldn't be happening on a 16mp sensor in bright sunlight. Honestly it looks the same as the overcast shots, it's just not as evident because of the sunlight. It's not much different than the M8 with regard to how it looks when you zoom. It's like it can't quite get the right focus, but because the resolution is so high, you can't tell until you zoom in.

I'm pretty convinced this is a post processing issue, which means it's fixable with a software update. It could also be related to their new way of auto-focusing. But I'm leery of trusting Samsung to address it if it's not a big deal from their perspective.

That said, I did get some very high quality indoor shots of my kids yesterday. Clean, not muddy, and didn't have to use pic stabilization. I did turn on face detection and tap-to-capture where you can tap on the screen and it will focus there and shoot. I also utilize the voice commands (cheese, capture, etc.) and that helps eliminate any movement when you shoot.

Not giving up hope yet because the rest of the phone is great. But the main draw of the S5's camera over the M8 is the higher megapixel count, which doesn't seem to be helping much at all so far.
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazymook:
Anyone having issue with the focus mode not working 90% of the time?
[Galaxy S 5 General] jntdroid:
Like it's not turning green?
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazymook:
It'll turn green and lock focus but 9 times out of 10 it'll take the pic, go to process and give me an error. Very frustrating.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tdrussell:


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You're referring to selective focus. Yeah, I've found there has to be a pretty extreme depth difference between background and foreground objects.
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Took these today in my town. Love the HDR mode.
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Your kids face looked like oil paintings because of the beauty face airbrush effect added when you take a face picture on auto mode. You can disable that by sliding the blue bar all the way to zero.
[Galaxy S 5 General] jntdroid:
I thought it only did that using the FFC? But it does that automatically any time it recognizes a face no matter which camera?
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Yes, it does.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I don't understand all the complaining, but these look fine to me.
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Awesome pictures!
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
Am I understanding this correctly? The S5 automatically air brushes any face it detects? Can you turn this off?
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thanks! Those were shot at the San Diego Zoo butterfly exhibit. I literally took those on straight auto with no settings changes. I might have turned HDR on but I honestly don't remember. Other than that, just auto.
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Very nice!
[Galaxy S 5 General] faremoney:
i still really have to understand what the stabilizer does...

sometimes shots fast, sometimes (in low light most of the times) it keeps spinning saying to stay steady

someone know what really that function does?

it makes multiple shot? increase the iso up?
[Galaxy S 5 General] benno4403:
Good question.. wondering the same
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
Camera comparison: Samsung Galaxy S5 vs HTC One (M8), Galaxy S4, iPhone 5s, LG G2, Nexus 5, Sony Xperia Z1 from PhoneArena
[Galaxy S 5 General] D33KK:
Love the detail on this when you zoom in
[Galaxy S 5 General] simacca:
Took these today in auto mode with no enhancements.

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What mode do people prefer shooting in. 4:3 or 16:9 ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] shockandawe:
Awesome pics!
[Galaxy S 5 General] combat goofwing:
http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/14/5-reasons-htc-one-m8-camera-is-better-than-the-galaxy-s5s/
[Galaxy S 5 General] Apoxx:
Enough said.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Marcovanbasten:
Did you read the link? They only talk about features, not photo quality...

"Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 7 avec Tapatalk"
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
One more
[Galaxy S 5 General] gtg465x:
PhoneArena is such a joke. That is the worst camera comparison I have ever seen in my life.
[Galaxy S 5 General] boodies:
That pureviewclub article was amazing. Thanks! Beatdown on the Nokia lol. Thanks Emix

http://pureviewclub.com/2014/22475
[Galaxy S 5 General] socalwrx:
I just hope Sammy finally lets us record 60fps/120fps at TRUE HD 720/1080 not 480 upscaled to 720 like S4 and note 3 :/
[Galaxy S 5 General] Hellscythe:
i recall gsmarena did a test between iphone 5 and gs4 at video recording and i think they said the reason the iphone 5 one looked slightly worse was because iphone 5 was upscaled and the gs4 one was true? ill see if i can find a link
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Not All HDRs are the Same..
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
I can't wait for some low light samples and some action shots to be released, thats literally all that needed improving with the S4's camera besides the lack of OIS but thats another story. Hopefully Samsung fixed this in thr S5.
[Galaxy S 5 General] BoneXDA:
Low light performance is very difficult to fix cause of the physical limitations (small sensor size). For true low-light excellence one will have to go for a PureView-size sensor, or larger.

Anyway, these are from MWC, not exactly low light but limited, and compared to others:

Source, full size: http://www.phonearena.com/news/Comp...-iPhone-5s-Xperia-Z1-and-other-rivals_id53172
[Galaxy S 5 General] BoneXDA:
Galaxy S5 (16:9) vs. Sony Xperia Z1 (4:3)

Look at how much deeper colors are on the Galaxy without overblowing anything. The sky is more accurate blue than on the Exmor RS, so is the color of the red building (with reference photo)

Flowers

Full shots with EXIF here: http://www.eprice.com.tw/mobile/talk/4523/4897044/1/rv/sony-xperia-z2-review/
[Galaxy S 5 General] dandroid13:
I've read somewhere that the sensor is bigger than the S4, 1/2.5" or something...

See this too: http://connect.dpreview.com/post/7372383200/samsung-galaxy-s5-features16mp-and-4k-video
[Galaxy S 5 General] yahyoh:
Actually the sensor size is 1/2.6"

https://twitter.com/nerdtalker/status/438261551049752576

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Sony always fail in cam software
[Galaxy S 5 General] gavinfabl:
The Sony Z2 is the phone to compare with and that has newer camera software than the Z1. Also aspect ratios are different and how do we know which photos are closest to the original?

The S5 in bright light look great shots. It's movement indoors , at a restaurant of people or dogs in lower light that will really see how good the camera is.

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What I want to know is can the S5 with its fast auto focus on auto beat the iPhone 5S for a quality shot . That's a real test. I hope it does.
[Galaxy S 5 General] BoneXDA:
The PureView sensor is still 3 times bigger, so there's gonna be the real difference. Like I said, the S5 sensor is very promising, but still going to struggle in level of detail and probably in low light, until they increase sensor size significantly.
[Galaxy S 5 General] socalwrxx:
Yes the 5s also upscales it's slow motion. The difference in my claim is 120fps vs 60fps. You might be right, 60fps is 720p but from my experience there's still pixelation. Even the note 3 with the 800 processor sees some pixelation. I don't think any phone can do 120fps at true 720 at the moment. Supposedly a hack for the g2 was just released. Sony is claiming true 720 120fps on its z2. And the S5 has yet to be mentioned. The 801 offers significant camera improvement over the 800 so I have high hopes for the new phones
[Galaxy S 5 General] dandroid13:
3 times? 1/2.5" to 1/1.5" isn't 3 times. :eek:

And according to that comment I posted, the pixel size is the same as the Lumia 1020, 1.12 µm.
[Galaxy S 5 General] BoneXDA:
The sensor area of the Lumia 1020 is 8.8×6.6 mm which is 58.08mm2 (wikipedia), S5 is 6,0x3.3mm which is 19.8mm2 (DPreview link earlier). Assuming those dimensions are correct, the Lumia 1020 sensor area is 2.93 times larger than the S5's, that means 193% more light captured (plus pixels are back-side illuminated, which isn't confirmed for ISOCELL tech). The PureView captures near or more than 3 times as many photons, so that's always going to outperform something that's so much smaller.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Burgscheinkerkdeiktraast:
I don't know how Samsung couldn't put sensor which is 3 mm bigger lol ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
Thanks for full_exif_photo - on SM-G900I it's more correct than on SM-G900F ;)

Module of camera absolutely the same. Only newer at date

ps.. samsung picture quality breaks sony to smithereens :good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] BoneXDA:
$$$ & different philosophy, Nokia says put a great camera inside and see how small we can go in size without compromising quality, Samsung says make a thin light phone, and see how big a sensor we can add without compromising size. One aims at a great cameraphone, other at a gadget that's good all around, and it shows. Samsung could always do a 1/2" 32MP sensor rival the PureView, but they's rater make compact cameras with Android...

The other area where Androids suffer is ISP (image signal processor), which processes raw sensor input and converts it to jpeg or h264 video format. Most ISPs are licensed (usually from Qualcomm, the Note 3 uses a Fujitsu), with SW based on the Google API. Sensor is also licenced, so the many different parts usually results in highly inconsistent imaging, see how Sony struggles to get their 50% larger sensor to work compared to the iPhone 5. That's because Apple designs it's own ISP hand in hand with the custom Sony sensors and reliable SW, which ends in 8 photos out of 10 being usable, 6 of them being very good and 4 great. In Sony's case only 5 out of 10 is usable, 2 is good and 1 is great, so in the S5's case, much will depend on what will they do on the processing front. I have no information of the ISP, but if it's their sensor, their ISP and their SW, it's a good start that may still requires a generation or two to get right.

But then there's factor 3: the lens, something is wrong with Sony's for example, the image starts to get soft around 2/3 toward the edges. S you see creating a great camera is highly complicated, and unless a company dedicates fully to it choosing a larger sensor, quality optics, home cooked ISP and SW, there's always going to be suffering. In the S5's case at least it seems they are done with megapixels and per pixel sharpness (as far as end results go), and focus on color richness and accuracy. Let's face it, we don't need more than 8 million pixels for our A4 prints or future 4k screens, only for lossless zoom, but for that, one's far better off just buying the Lumia 1020. What Samsung appears to be aiming at is a camera that'll do great smaller resolution pictures, an that philosophy works well for Apple.
[Galaxy S 5 General] dandroid13:
Hey [MENTION=4890367]BoneXDA[/MENTION], what's your opinion about the GS5 camera compared to the Nexus 5 camera? These are the two phones I'm considering and a good camera means a lot to me.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gavinfabl:
I would rate the S4 above the Nexus 5 overall, so I'm certain the S5 will be even better again.
[Galaxy S 5 General] BoneXDA:
Impossible to tell right now, in-depth reviews and reliability tests are necessary.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
sorry, but add my opinion - Nexus camera away up to the camera sgs5. And this is still subject to the raw camera firmware of sgs5
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Those are the most idiotic reasons that I've ever seen in my life. I will take my S5 camera over the M8 camera any day of the week.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
That article is really dumb. The man stated his opinion, but he should have taken pics in different conditions and let the pictures speak for themselves.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tdrussell:
I wouldn't get your panties in a bunch over the DL article. Besides, he posted a counterpoint (as promised in the M8 > S5 article!).

http://www.droid-life.com/2014/04/14/5-reasons-galaxy-s5-camera-is-better-than-the-one-m8s/
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
Even then its not objective cause he isn't analyzing photos but just talks about what they are capable of. I prefer a camera review where the reviewer takes different shots in different lighting conditions, takes into consideration the ultra pixel that allows more light in or the 16 mp that captures more details and then draw a conclusion. Both of those articles are just silly IMO.

Besides, whoever wrote the article apparently do not know what they are talking about:

I had No idea the S5 had OIS....
[Galaxy S 5 General] Unrealbr:
This one is not meant to be a beautiful picture but a harsh test for the camera's contrast ability.

It's a shot from my window, with that heavy white wall,, it becomes really hard to see the browns from the windows and the details in the litte fan.

That is also true to life, I thought the camera did a damn good job in this scenario.

EDIT: Full resolution @ http://i.imgur.com/S5bUWi2.jpg
[Galaxy S 5 General] faremoney:
noone on this? http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51888604&postcount=368
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazymook:
Picture stabilization is mainly for night shots. Turn it off for everything else.
[Galaxy S 5 General] faremoney:
thanks for the reply, i was trying to understand what it actually does
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazymook:
See quote below. Im guessing it keeps the shutter open longer (lets in more light) and having this mode on keeps the image steady so it doesnt blur (a downside to having the shutter stay open longer.)
[Galaxy S 5 General] mlemonds:
the classic 'complain about the weather by posting a picture of my patio furniture to facebook' photo.

a little VSCO added

full res: http://i.imgur.com/0ZPp21t.jpg
[Galaxy S 5 General] tdrussell:
Here's some weather contrast for you then! :P

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[Galaxy S 5 General] mlemonds:
why so many chimneys in Dallas?

i am jealous though.
[Galaxy S 5 General] jntdroid:
Hey it got cold here a few months ago... ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] gavinfabl:
Freezing here lol
[Galaxy S 5 General] BoneXDA:
I'm still writing the review so I'm not sharing pictures here just yet, but you may check exif data on my flickr page.

https://www.flickr.com/photos/111873126@N06/
[Galaxy S 5 General] Unrealbr:
This phone has actually quite a nice low light capabilty!

Jam @ night 2 por unrealbr_, no Flickr
[Galaxy S 5 General] socalwrx:
very nice! :good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Unrealbr:
There are 2 other ones over @ my flickr if you want to check them, but I figured that one the best to be posted.
[Galaxy S 5 General] jagrave:
Could someone please, please go here(https://www.flickr.com/photos/123410766@N06/with/13883152465) and check out my photos. They're all from my S5. Almost all of them don't look good when viewed on my computer. They look decent on my phone screen until I zoom in at all. Either I'm being to critical, the camera stinks, or I have a bad camera. So could I get some feed back on if I need to exchange it or not? Thanks everyone!

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How are all of you getting such great results?!?!
[Galaxy S 5 General] 0mega007:
In sunny outdoors is is worse to use image stabilization?

is it just recommended for low light photos?
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
Picture stabilization should only be used in low light conditions since it dramatically slows down the shutter speed to capture more light and in turn the picture taking process becomes extremely slow as well.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gavinfabl:
M8 vs S5 camera

http://gavinsgadgets.wordpress.com/...phones-samsung-s5-or-htc-one-m8-camera-fight/

Plenty of examples.
[Galaxy S 5 General] jntdroid:
So the M8 is it for you in general, with the camera? My take on the two is similar to yours (I think?). In great light, the S5 will produce better, and sometimes incredible results. However, the M8 does really really good in those scenarios as well, and is so incredibly fast and good at the more "normal", every day shots (kids, friends, etc), that unless you're shooting scenic shots 90% of the time, the M8 might actually be better overall. I love the S5's camera, but every time I pick up the M8's and use it, it's simply refreshingly fast, crisp, easy, etc. It's just a great camera experience overall. But man, some of those S5 shots in bright sunlight produce great results as well.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gavinfabl:
Totally agree too. Some of the S5 shots are breathtaking even on a huge monitor. The definition is obscenely good.
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Muito boa a foto. Cuidado com ladrao nesse engarrafamento ae, rapaz.

Mod Edit: English translation added, please only use English on XDA.

Very good photo. Beware of this thief bottling ae, boy.
[Galaxy S 5 General] homer285:
That Vette is SICK! I want one, fire-trucking love it what a beast! Oh the shot is nice too, could you upload the original please?
[Galaxy S 5 General] italia0101:
Samsung Galaxy S5 - 1080p Video / Audio Test: http://youtu.be/bRjZKRrA4vw

There are downloadable samples too including 60fps
[Galaxy S 5 General] Unrealbr:
To be fair, it was in Automatic mode with HDR enabled, all I had to do was point, manually select the focus, shoot, and keep it stabilized on the wheel for about 5 seconds :laugh:

Point and shoot, não fiquei brincando, só batí a foto e meti devolta no bolso o/
[Galaxy S 5 General] faremoney:
Here's mine, all auto

Inviato dal mio SM-G900F utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 5 General] simacca:
Another I took yesterday.
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazymook:
1000hp in the yellow one, almost 700 in the blue one, and around 550 in my lowly supra :laugh:

full resolution as requested - https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3830/13861656274_69a36f28a9_o.jpg
[Galaxy S 5 General] tdrussell:
Finally walked around the park by my house and took some shots. These are all either Auto or auto + hdr.

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[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Just took this with Google Camera on HDR mode and I'm very pleased with the results. It seems a lot snappier than Samsung's stock camera and I love being able to swipe from the right to access gallery, which is also a lot faster than Samsung's one. What are your thoughts?

BTW, HDR preview works the exact same way as on the stock app. I'm very impressed with this. ﻿
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
And here's the same picture taken with the stock camera app. Same quality.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tdrussell:
All i know is i think i like your back yard better.
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Hahahha

Yeah, I love living here. It's beautiful.
[Galaxy S 5 General] brazcub:
Here's a picture using blur mode on Google Camera
[Galaxy S 5 General] Ave666:
Night shot
[Galaxy S 5 General] microspock:
superfine setting ?

Can't find "Superfine, fine, etc." settings ? Jpeg compression is very agressive i think.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sommesepino:
A wonderful camera,but i think in night shoot it's not so good

Inviato dal mio magico lumia 920
[Galaxy S 5 General] jagrave:
Does anyone else have a camera sensor that is a little off centered behind the lense?
[Galaxy S 5 General] noideaforusername:
Mine too.
[Galaxy S 5 General] simacca:
Very common in phone cameras. Doesn't affect picture quality.
[Galaxy S 5 General] jagrave:
Just making sure. Thanks. ☺
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazeco:
So I've got both the M8 and S5 right now (deciding which to keep).

I took a picture in my office with both in the same position. I used the photoshop filter from the M8 thread to upscale to 16MP and adjust details on the M8 photo. Nothing done to the S5 pic. Focus point is the chair. Overhead fluorescent lighting. Auto settings on both.

M8 Reference Photo:

http://i.imgur.com/Sbo8iqC.jpg

M8 Adjusted Photo:

http://i.imgur.com/vDD9VFT.jpg

S5:

http://i.imgur.com/KXANLPD.jpg

Which photo is better, and why?
[Galaxy S 5 General] simacca:
I actually prefer the M8 pic as the colours look more natural. S5 pic looks slightly washed out.
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazymook:
The greens in the s5 are more vibrant. The m8 is a bit darker while the s5 is a bit brighter which helps (help in the negative sense) wash the colors out slightly.
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazeco:
One more M8 vs S5, this time outside, auto settings, focus on white SUV:

M8 Original:

http://i.imgur.com/0upNAy1.jpg

M8 16MP Photoshop Filter:

http://i.imgur.com/Pk8jEUw.jpg

S5 Original:

http://i.imgur.com/yfjxa9y.jpg
[Galaxy S 5 General] simacca:
Definitely s5 original. Whites are not blown out and everything just looks more realistic/clearer.
[Galaxy S 5 General] crazymook:
I feel like im not seeing some of these settings...like drama for example. Are they labeled as something else or are am I blind (or are you referring "shot and more")? Heck, I dont even see this studio portion being referenced.

Either way, your pics came out amazing.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tdrussell:
As far as i can tell....go to Shot and More mode, fire off it's 30 frames or whatever, THEN it gives you the processing mode options.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
What can I say? it will take me another 30 mins to read all the details you mentioned.

:good::good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] socalwrx:
Why is Sammy still giving us up scaled slow motion!? the 720p at 1/8 does NOT look good at all. I hope this time around, hardware improvements let the devs give us a true HD slow motion
[Galaxy S 5 General] tdrussell:
what's your benchmark though? Even the highest end hi-speed cameras can only shoot high framerates for limited amounts of time. It takes a lot of horsepower to shoot at 240fps.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Unrealbr:
That's why even for a GoPro to shoot 240fps it has to go under 720p.

And that's the borderline affordable high speed camera you can get as of now.
[Galaxy S 5 General] socalwrx:
my benchmark is the xperia Z2 which does 120fps at true 720. Even the S5 120fps is upscaled. Maybe I am asking a lot from 240fps, but 120fps? a

xperia z2 slow motion
[Galaxy S 5 General] RS050377:
How do I create such panning shot?