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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
I know you're not debating me and neither am I. I simply confirmed what you wrote down, quoted you, and agreed with you. :D I certainly hope that people won't install Mobile Odin Pro and start flashing custom ROMs on their Knox 0x0 phones only to find their Knox status tripped to 0x1. Believe me, since I myself am so intent on keeping Knox 0x0 on both my Galaxy S4 and Note 3, I wouldn't want others in the same boat to take risky chances. :)

I do want to show you, however, that I'm not writing statements about flashing custom ROMs via Mobile Odin Pro based solely on hypothetical grounds. Check out this thread:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2583199

I can tell you're a nice guy and want to help out and look out for fellow Note 3 users. You're a great asset to the Sprint Note 3 community - keep it up~!! :good: :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] micmars:
I read that and many others over many weeks, well prior to posting.

But those threads I have read were specific to particular roms, and had carefully written instructions for said rom. Chainfire's thread on the product discusses exactly that it can be done, then goes on to defer to the dev when dealing in specifics.

It'd be a great contribution if you could develop a guide such as this for a popular rom, and in collaboration with the dev.

I still stand by my statement that though it can be done, it remains hypothetical unless instructions are carefully lain out, specific to a particular device and rom.

Do that, and you will have enriched the community even more.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deathdreams:
I am ready to do this, since The OTA keeps failing to install at 25% install for some reason and Kies is saying that I am on the latest firmware (MJ4)... I also know I am going to be called a noob for this but I have to ask before I do it... what does the NAB stand for?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
That's Sprint's internal build number for Android 4.4.2. :) For the Galaxy S4, for example, the build number is NAE for the Android 4.4.2 update.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JimSmith94:
I can confirm that the OP method works, retains root, and does not trip KNOX. It worked for me, although one of my apps caused my screen to go blank and my phone to overheat. I installed the stock 4.4.2 tar file over it and had the same problem, but it did remove root.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] kstephens98:
[MENTION=5244502]micmars[/MENTION] I appreciate your concern for the community. However, everyone should realize before modifying their devices that they do so at their own risk. The fact remains that flashing a custom ROM on the Note 3 via MOP which contains the stock, unmodified kernel and recovery will not cause the Knox bit to be triggered. Without someone posting this information, the community at large would be unaware of this capability and I, for one, am greatful to have stumbled across this little tidbit. Thanks for all you do for us and please know that I mean no disrespect in voicing these thoughts.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] micmars:
First, disrespect me all you want, it's good for the soul. Seriously. Please.

Hey, everyone is entitled to his or her opinion, and I'm in complete agreement with what you wrote. I have thanked the man for the thread on more than one occasion, and indicated that I believe the instructions are quite useful. I didn't try to get him to shut it down, just suggested that the statements about flashing custom roms on this forum via MOP, if said rom has an unmodified kernel, while possible, should not be encouraged without context. The fact that you benefited from this guide is proof enough of its value.

MOP can trip Knox when flashing a custom rom, it even warns. My belief is that the thread could be improved if it were merely referenced that it's possible, then link to reading. That's correct, you could use the program to flash, and Knox could be tripped in the process.

This is my opinion, and I could be wrong. Furthermore, while MOP is an excellent program (I bought it the minute I joined xda), and it has many extremely solid preventions against bricking, it still could trip Knox despite one's best efforts. If that is one's primary goal, then one should be aware that any instruction guide posted by a rom dev is a wiser choice.

I hope this clarifies.

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---------- Post added at 09:13 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:11 PM ----------

Thus my point. If your primary goal is not to trip Knox, then fixing those issues without recovery or the ability to backup makes rooting an very challenging endeavor.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] deathdreams:
Another dumb questions, sorry so many doing this to the girlfriends phone so the price to pay if I mess it up is pretty high...

You said S4, this will still have all the built in features for the stupid pen the Note 3 has right?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ninja_unmatched:
Okay it works but the percent of anomalys is always there. So... What is the advantage to going to the new update anyways other than removing the knox notification
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
This guide and its accompanying files are ONLY for the Note 3, not S4. I just used the S4 as an example to explain how Sprint assigns different build number codes for their software updates. :)

All the files linked to in the first post are for the Sprint Galaxy Note 3.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Here is a link to an article about the 4.4.2 changelog for our Sprint Note 3:

http://androidandme.com/2014/02/new...oid-4-4-2-update-now-making-its-way-to-users/

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What kind of anomalies are you experiencing after being updated to 4.4.2? If you find that some apps are missing, try rebooting the phone to see if they come back. If you're experiencing unstableness, you could also boot into the stock recovery mode and perform a factory reset. Doing so will wipe all your data but at least you'll be on a clean, fresh 4.4.2 setup.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] evilvoice:
If you do a factory restore, will you still be rooted?

Just trying to get all the info I can before I jump on this. Hell, I'm still on MI5 because I haven't decided if I'm going to domestic unlock the phone or not.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] evilvoice:
USB tether works for me. I just tested it
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] akns:
Tried going from NAB to NC5 using the same instructions and the new NC5 files. After the mobile ODIN pro step, the phone rebooted, but instead of flashing, it got stuck in a "Recovery Booting..." screen. Could go into download mode and tried some stuff like flashing different bootloaders (NC5, NAB, MI3) but nothing could get it to boot up. Thus, had to flash stock NC5 full rom tar and will have to live w/ no root for now...
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
From which source did you download the nc5 tar from? I download tar files from Samsung Updates or Sammobile. Where was the tar file stored at? Microsd or root of internal storage? And were you updated to the latest version of MOP?

It's too bad what happened on your phone. Others have been reporting success to me via PM which is why I've uploaded the nc5 csc file.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] evilvoice:
I think you quoted the wrong person. I downloaded it from the Google drive link someone set up, MOP was latest, internal storage
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] idone:
Mj4 to nc5 it stopped working for me.

Just went nc5 to nab and still not working. Damn it! Knox still 0x0 so nice to know some downgrade is possible.... Just not sure what to do next. Foxfi/pdanet usb tether works but it would be nice to know why native usb tether isn't working.

Anyone go from NAB back to MJ4 and keep knox [MENTION=690747]0x0[/MENTION]?

*****edit*****

Data wipe in recovery and scrtn didn't fix it. Back to NC5 and using Foxfi/PDANet which at least has the advantage over native usb tether of allowing mtp access at the same time as tethering.

Still at a loss over wtf broke it and why wipes and odin'n tars is not resolving it.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Whoops, LOL~ I meant to quote [MENTION=1306239]akns[/MENTION]
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] evilvoice:
I have no idea. Just to be sure we are talking about the same thing. I went to settings, tethering, USB tether. I then connected it to my computer which told me I had a new network connection. It then shut down my Wi Fi and I browsed the Internet on my computer using my cell service.

I just want to be sure because there are so many different types of tethering. There's sharing your cell or your home Internet. There's also different connections like USB, bluetooth or Wi Fi. I'm sure there is more.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] idone:
No mate you are spot on with the former.

Used the native usb tether in settings to download CSC_NC5.tar, N900PVPUCNC5_N900PSPTCNC5_N900PVPUCNC5_HOME.tar.md5, and nc5firmware.tar.

Flashed N900PVPUCNC5.tar.md5 via mobile odin pro 4.10 after flash rebooted to download mode and flashed nc5firmware.tar from PC.

Rebooted phone as per all the steps let it settle etc then rebooted to download mode and flashed CSC_NC5.tar from PC in pda slot as per instructions.

No joy, native usb tethering has been borked since. knox warranty bit still preserved after going to NAB and back to NC5, multiple factory data resets and ##scrtn#'s...... oh well it's not even worth my time as it seems to be the only function so far that I use thats broken. Tried my other pc to just to be sure as this one goes weeks without rebooting. I'm actually ok with using a tethering app now since it allows mtp access to phone's storage at the same time.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] akns:
I downloaded NC5 from the mirror in this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2522638. Tar file was in internal storage (no SD inserted). Used MOP 4.10 and it downloaded a file automatically (probably the flashkernel). Checked the 3 settings in MOP as specified in MOP. It checked the MD5 of the TAR file and it seemed to pass before rebooting.

Perhaps some sort of fluke. Some other ppl have ran into the same problem (but following a different procedure, so it may be just be an intermittent bug in MOP http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2695683 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2614758).
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ogretech:
Greetings comrades! With thanks to all those that came before me, I wanted to report my arrival at a rooted, Knox 00x0, NC5,

I used the aforementioned steps with the following substitutions:

NC5 Engineering Bootloader (thanks [MENTION=309990]freeza[/MENTION]): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2701369

NC5 ROM (thanks [MENTION=5244502]micmars[/MENTION]): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2712205

NC5 CSC (thanks [MENTION=4693652]optimummind[/MENTION]): Step 7(a) in this threads OP.

Some notes/comments:

I was originally rooted with Kingo (v1.17) back at MJ4 and retained that root via these (original) steps to get to rooted NAB.

I used the (modded) Odin 3.09 referenced in the OP.

I used Mobile Odin Pro 4.10 (current version as of this posting).

I did end up using the CSC (though in my upgrade to NAB I didn't have to as my CSC was retained through that process).

Good luck!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Seems like MOP is inconsistent. Maybe you guys with mop issues could let [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] know.

Sent from my SPH-L720
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] blognc:
I had previously updated to NAB using this guide, everything worked fine. Did it now, got the Kernel Panic, can only get into download mode. I'm screwed, right? Gotta go stock and choose to either lose root or Knox Warranty 0x0, right?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
If you haven't flashed the stock NC5 tar already, try flashing just the kernel in Download Mode via Odin v3.04.

I'll send you the file via PM.

I'm gonna forward these issues to Chainfire and see if he can take a look at these issues. Until then, I'm gonna take down the NC5 CSC file until this hit-and-miss behavior gets ironed out with MOP.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ogretech:
I hope I didn't give the impression I had problems with the CSC. My only surprise was I needed it at all (since I didn't need that step on my upgrade from MJ4 to NAB).

I would have been hosed without your posting of it.

Thanks!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] evilvoice:
I did the final step after flashing the csc which is to factory reset (had to because I replaced the touch wiz launcher with one from here and it was always zoomed in). The only other thing I did differently is I cleared MOP from flashing modem #2 to keep the MI3 modem.

About USB tethering, I'm sorry to hear that. I know that can be frustrating. I am glad there are apps out there to offer the same thing.

I really wish the toggle hack worked. I can't for the life of me get mobile data or the hotspot to show. 4.4 issue from what I understand.

Also, I don't think this gets said enough but thank you to optimummind for making this guide. I've always been reserved about doing this, but it is well written and easy.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
You didn't, not at all. Glad I was able to help. I just took down the link to the NC5 tar until MOP is “fixed" and it's more reliable & consistent.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] idone:
Works here on NC5 same process as MJ4.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Did you flash to NC5 from NAB via MOP v4.10? Did you flash the NC5 CSC file afterwards?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] evilvoice:
I got the toggles to work, so disregard.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] idone:
I went mj4>nc5>nab>nc5>nab>nc5. Yes I flashed csc provided for each.

Good!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Last night, I decided to flash from stock, Rooted NAB to the NC5 update. Like before, I used Mobile Odin Pro, except version 4.10 this time around.

I copied the NC5 tar file to Internal Storage and flashed. I did not, however, set MOP to go into Download Mode. I just let it boot normally.

Once the flash was successful, I checked Settings and everything was NC5 except for the modem.

So I used Odin v3.04 to flash just the modem after first powering down the phone completely then entering into Download Mode (no reboot).

Checked Settings again after the phone booted up and now everything was NC5.

I booted into Download Mode again and flashed the NC5 CSC file. One more reboot.

And everything is working and good. :) No Kernel Panic, no Knox tripping, everything just worked.

I'll be updating the first post later on tonight to upload the NC5 modem and NC5 CSC files for anyone who wants to upgrade to NC5. :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JFay22:
So you did this and retained root and didn't have to wipe data?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
That's correct. After the flash, Xposed was disabled as expected but all I had to do was reinstall the Xposed drivers and reboot.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JFay22:
I'm also nab stock rooted but I'm knox 0x1 with twrp, but this still seems like a good method because I'd have to wipe data to upgrade I believe or use stockish rom, correct? With this method I'd stay rooted, keep data and recovery if I'm thinking right? I originally went nab when you started the thread but before csc fix I decided just to flash nab and twrp and cf autoroot because I wanted custom recovery so tripped Knox on purpose. However since you've fixed csc issues this may be the way to go again. Thoughts?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
You're correct for the most part. Using the MOP method, however, will overwrite your TWRP recovery & replace with OEM.

So after flashing with MOP, flashing the modem, and flashing the csc, you can flash TWRP recovery again if you want TWRP.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Porsche928Guy:
NC5 files

I can't seem to find a "good" place to get the NC5 files to update. I am currently DL'ing them from Sammy but holy hell it is slow. I searched for a good long while in XDA but have only come up with odds and ends and nothing I can see to say they are the current ones. Would anyone be able to help point me in a more precises direction?

I have already used the OP's method a long time ago and just want to update so finding these files is all i need. Thanks in advance.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
I added the instructions and files for going from NAB to NC5 at the bottom of the 1st post.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] ninja_unmatched:
Anyway to root NC5 yet without tripping knox?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Not yet, unfortunately. And it's not looking good either.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] gatoremt:
:( Not what I wanted to hear
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JFay22:
Hey I have Odin 3.09 and for this you specify 3.04. Any reason?

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
It's just because I personally used v3.04 during my testing. Odin 3.09 should be okay too. ?

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JFay22:
Thanks so much. I just successfully updated from nab to nc5 without wiping data and preserved root and flashed twrp. I know I wasn't trying to keep knox as I already tripped it, but your method allowed me to do this without wiping data and without having to root again and start from scratch. Thanks So Much [MENTION=4693652]optimummind[/MENTION]

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---------- Post added 3rd May 2014 at 12:30 AM ---------- Previous post was 2nd May 2014 at 11:48 PM ----------

One thing, mobile odin didn't change bootloader...I'm going to use Odin 3.09 to flash NC5 engineering boot...right now my phone is great but phone info shows nab boot still. May want to mention that in OP, unless I missed something

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
I'm glad you found this method useful. ?

As for the bootloader step, it's mentioned on the bottom of the 1st post (baseband/modem).

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Johnabis:
Hello,

yeah I'm having the same issue, I updated the baseband and modem but still show the bootloader as Nab, I wanted to load the stock bootloader and not the engineering one but I can't find the stock bootloader for nc5. anyone know where to get it?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JFay22:
Rwilco12 has the stock nc5 bootloader http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2715468. I flashed the engineering boot in pc odin and I am set. Stock should be same.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Johnabis:
Thanks, though that thread was closed as there seems to be an issue with loading the stock bootloader. it fails :( . he said something about the way he uploaded it was corrupting the file
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JFay22:
My bad. I didn't research it. Just use engineering for now if you're stuck.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
I'll try to make the stock NC5 bootloader for you to download tomorrow. For now, i guess there's the engineering one.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Johnabis:
Thanks, I did go ahead and use the engineering one as well. there's no rush really at this point for the stock one. I wanted to use the stock one incase I decide to trade my phone in when the note 4 comes out as i'm on the short lived one up plan. only thing left me to do now is to upgrade to nc5(d) which i'm having trouble doing.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
I got the stock NC5 bootloader file made. I'll test it out later & upload.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] blackinjun:
BTW upgrading to NC5 totally fixed my Bluetooth issues
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Sorry for the delay. Here is the stock NC5 bootloader-only file.

https://db.tt/1NrbfdWn ( <--Download from my Dropbox)

The bottom of the 1st post has also been updated with new notations and instructions.

Use my modified Odin v3.09 & the BL button. Don't do a hot-boot into Download Mode. Instead, shut off the phone completely and then reboot into Download Mode from a cold state (so the bootloader flash will stick).

:)

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] JFay22:
If I wanted to later, could I flash this right over NC5 Engineering boot?

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Yes.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] wvuscott13:
I feel like this isn't a smart question and I've been looking for a while, so if I missed it somewhere I apologize. I'm already rooted. Software version ending in NAB, Android version 4.4.2, Baseband version ending in NAB, Build version ending in NAB. So should I use your NC5 files and follow the flashing instructions just underneath the NC5 files on top of everything I already have? Even though I'm already rooted? Or do I start from scratch as if I'm not rooted?

Thanks in advance. Basically I just don't want to take a chance on bricking the thing.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
Since you're already on NAB with Root, you don't need to start from the beginning. You'd start from the 2nd step (NAB to NC5).

So, download Mobile Odin Pro (now on v4.20). Move NC5 tar file to internal storage and flash with MOP. Then flash NC5 modem, NC5 csc, and NC5 bootloader (optional).

If your Knox is already tripped (0x1), you can just flash NC5 tar via desktop Odin and re-root with CF-Autoroot.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DCLocal:
Success!

Many thanks to optimummind. Again.

I was on NAB (having flashed using the original instructions on the OP) and just successfully updated to NC5. I did everything but the bootloader so I'm still on the NAB engineering. Is there any disadvantage to flashing the stock NC5 bootloader? I'm rooted, Knox 0X0 and trying to remember why I stayed on the the NAB engineering bootloader. I feel like there was a concession or risk and want to know if that is the case with stock NC5.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
AFAIK, have experienced, and could tell, there is no benefit for running the engineering bootloader (someone correct me if I got this wrong). It didn't allow me to downgrade to Jellybean, still contains the Knox security bit tracker, and just shows extra lines during bootup.

For both NAB and NC5, I just used the stock bootloader. ?

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] wmarshall:
Used this method to root and not trip Knox and it's great. Keep up the good work. My baseband was at NC5 when I flashed with MOP. I'm I ok or do I still need to flash baseband/modem?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] optimummind:
If your baseband is already at NC5, then you don't need to flash again separately.

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[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] wmarshall:
Cool thanks! Keep up the great work!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] wvuscott13:
I just got to this, but it worked perfectly! Thanks so much!
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] DCLocal:
I noticed this too; I was at NC5 baseband after flashing the NC5 tar file. I flashed the baseband separately anyway as noted in the steps and all is well. Very easy procedure, thank you optimummind.

Another note to mention when flashing the NC5 bootloader, that I just did last night, is that the phone didn't reboot as I didn't check the auto-reboot in Odin. I was a bit nervous but just waited a few minutes and then powered off my phone. It was unnerving since the screen says in large letters not to turn off phone but my phone is fine and I'm on NC5 for everything.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy Note 3] wmarshall:
Yea I also noticed better data speed in my area after the update. Did you use the NC5 tar from this OP or another?