yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy S 5 General] devilsdouble:
No problem, can happen to anybody. It's not your lack of knowledge, but some idiots who are trying to forward it to you and plenty others, because they quite well know in next 6-7 years their business will go.....well....let the time speak for that.

And I live near Park Street in Calcutta, I go and buy stuffs from Chandni Chawk sometimes (cheap home peripherals) and that place is the heart of grey products here in this city, so yeah I know a little about that. In my whole life I have never been a victim of a grey market product and I just hope I never will be. One just need to keep eyes and ears open, that's all.

Being said all that, Flipkart (W.S Retail) and Amazon will be my preferred choice. Cause there are lots of fake sellers on eBay, just keep an eye on the feedback and past history, then you won't go wrong.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
I am too familiar with samsung seller in my area. I even had round on places where grey product assembled. its everywhere. Its not about someone forwarding wrong Info to me. Its about what have seen reality from my eyes.

Depends who agree or not. You havent seen reality. So I know its hard to understand. I attend meetings and seminars with samsung dealers and distributors (original) I also seen how people do work on grey market.

Trust me its everywhere. Baki aap ki marzi.

Yes ws retail I can say its original. Thats why its lil bit expensive.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Bleeding-Edge-Armour:
So your friend got a defective phone (Burn in?). It's unfortunate sure but, there's really no need to over generalize and bash all sellers. Seriously you could get one from a decent shop and you could've still had the same issue. Chalk it up to bad luck.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kannanX10:
WS retail has got 30 day replacement guarantee............so need to worry and if anything goes wrong will have a new replacement within couple of days.............

if someone orders from flipkart and every seller offers minimum 10 days replacement so if faced issues within 2 days he should have contacted flipkart rather than going to service center..............
[Galaxy S 5 General] Mandeep148:
Yea I also suggest ws retail frm flipkart for good..

I know some people think I am silly and they think I always start waste conversion or wahtever.

But i just dont want any one spend so much . 30+k is not less. And he get bad phone. I feel bad for them. Thats why i am sharing my view to my brothers. Because I know its hard to understand but I also suggest please meet me I will show you many things and do clear.

Then you will sure.

Online cheap saung phones are 80% chance of grey marketing.

Depends upon luck. Some can get defect free phone via grey market thats depends upon luck.

My friend have 2 shops one is original samsung and other is grey.

What we experienced people buying cheap samsung just to get rid from Rs.3000

And original samsung have less margin thats why. Original samsung shop have less profit because people buy cheap one. That mostly people get defects.

Well brothers. My motive is not make fight or start unusual conversion. I just want my friend get juice of his money, except defect.

Thank you.
[Galaxy S 5 General] NoteboyTech:
Bro, i am ready to meet you Lol, nevertheless it would be great to know about samsungs cheap marketing tactics and the truth about greasy market phones and they linked to online websites
[Galaxy S 5 General] hapticc:
Download Candy Crush Soda Saga
[Galaxy S 5 General] ArpitAgarwal:
Guys can you please install this app and tell me where was your phone made mine is made in Brazil and i am worried something might be shady

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Korea.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kannanX10:
It seems that S5 selling here has two diff product codes INU and INS whereas they are manufactured in Vietnam and uttarpradesh respectively...the fact is first S5 I used had INS product code availed from Samsung smartphone cafe it had a loose power button and the second from WS retail is having INU code and is flawless which was made in Vietnam as every samsung flagship recently I tried was from Vietnam.......
[Galaxy S 5 General] rkial:
35.4k from WS retail on Flipkart now

2 months from the release..
[Galaxy S 5 General] sandeeppathak007:
Hi

Thinking to buy this beauty shall I go ahead with flipkart offer of 36-37k or shall I wait a month if you guys think it will go below 34 in a month.

Please suggest
[Galaxy S 5 General] smartjain:
just brought it, what is the best case for this phone.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Bleeding-Edge-Armour:
Otterbox defender or the lifeproof cases will probably protect it the best, but they're quite expensive and add a fair bit of bulk to the phone. I'd recommend the case-mate tough case or the otterbox commuter for the average guy.
[Galaxy S 5 General] smartjain:
also any custom rom for the indian version of s5?? and whats the best root method? the geohot method did not work

Also rooting voids the warranty?
[Galaxy S 5 General] Bleeding-Edge-Armour:
There's a guide on rooting your S5 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2791055, also I'm pretty sure there aren't any roms for the exynos variant just yet. And to answer your last question, yes rooting will void your warranty but unrooting your device is simple enough though and so is resetting the flash counter (Look up triangleaway.apk), so you don't really need to worry about that.

Update: It looks like if you root with the current method it'll trip knox and there's no way to put knox back to 0x0.
[Galaxy S 5 General] hung2900:
I don't know people still feel f*cked up with the CPU before knowing the real information about it. As I remember, people screwing when U.S GS3 uses Snapdragon (that time it's so-called Crapdragon) instead of international Exynos.
[Galaxy S 5 General] ipsuvedi:
Hope, this time Exynos Version will also rock cuz it has HMP enabled...which attracts devs (uff KNOX!!!)
[Galaxy S 5 General] kaifkhan97:
Hands on with Galaxy S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] ipsuvedi:
Thanks for this SS info :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] kaifkhan97:
Ur Wel cum Bro

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I think I should Go and and install Cpu - Z on that demo device
[Galaxy S 5 General] sachinaik:
Guys,

Univercell is giving a 15% discount on City Bank Credit Card + Additional 5000Rs off !!!

Just now saw the poster.

That means if Price is 50K then we can get it at 37.5k !!!

Cheap upgrade for those who have N2 and S3.

Good upgrade for S4 users too. The screen is a phenominal upgrade even for S4 users.

Little bit unreasonable for N3 users as they already have a good screen and 32GB internal memory.
[Galaxy S 5 General] hemander:
Here : http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/...rders-start-in-India/articleshow/32910188.cms
[Galaxy S 5 General] NiC00L:
Themobilestore is also giving flat 20% discount for all Citibank Credit Cards:good:

New member so can not post link here.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kaifkhan97:
http://www.themobilestore.in/mobiles-tablet/pre-order-samsung-galaxy-s5/p-31103-88884962906-cat.html
[Galaxy S 5 General] rakeshishere:
Launch price by Samsung is really ridiculous for this phone and it shouldn't be priced over 43k. Just because people can pay a phone for high price in above 40k range, it doesn't mean they are ready for 51k as well. Just look at Note 3Neo initial launch price and see price now in a short span of time.

Am loyal Samsung user and own a lot of their products but not a sheep. Give it 2 weeks and wait for price to drop 10-15k
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Someone from Samsung India confirmed that official price will be 51,500/-

But yes, I totally agree with you. Samsung is trying to get as much money out of us as they can.

I also feel this phone should cost somewhere in between 35-40K.

And I think they also know it's overpriced. That's why they are offering cashback and deals.

On official Samsung website, they are offering 15% cashback to all credit card payments. It's kind of their strategy, first make price too high and then offer discount and deals so people will feel grateful.

Yes, wait for couple of weeks or a month and we will see better pricing.

I have S4 and I don't think I am going to buy S5 anytime soon.

Don't feel it a worthy upgrade and also I am disappointed with 2GB RAM.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rakeshishere:
[MENTION=4924663]rl421403[/MENTION]

For a Galaxy S4 user this is an incremental upgrade (Yes, I know they have latest processor, better screen , bigger battery etc etc) but its nothing ground breaking or revolutionary. I'm still holding on to my S2 as it serves my needs even though I can afford the latest flagship.

I'm still wondering though if they have dropped FM Radio from S5 Exynos variant just like the S4 ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Yep agreed. If you find your current phone works perfect for you, no need to buy another phone just because it's available.

And I don't think FM Radio is ever coming back to Galaxy S flagships. Phones are getting slimmer and batter is bigger. No space left for such hardware.
[Galaxy S 5 General] system.img:
That's not the cause for lack of FM Radio.

The FM receiver unit is embedded in the BT/Wifi Chip. Samsung has just grounded the antenna pin without connecting it to the Headset jack.

It takes up very less space.

Samsung, Apple, Google and many other OEMs do not provide FM Radio just to make you use internet to stream online radio.

They form a partnership with the service providers and hence they do so.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Could be possible. But in my opinion that's not the reason. Because almost all other devices from Samsung (except flagship devices S4, S5 and Note series) still come with FM radio.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kaifkhan97:
So tested the live demo unit

Samsung using the same strategy

It comes with snapdragon 801 Soc

Disappointed

But still prebooked 2 S5
[Galaxy S 5 General] rakeshishere:
This happened last year with the S4 too. They have a Snapdragon unit for demo & Exynos unit for sale. :-|
[Galaxy S 5 General] Suraj.Udg:
Surprise surprise. ..
[Galaxy S 5 General] system.img:
Congrats! Tell us how you feel about it(and also post some benchmarks of the Exynos! :D)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
54300 INR ?? And where official price in 51500 INR ?

Please make dump of system folder :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] sachinaik:
Once Note 4 releases s5 price will drop to 29k I think as the existing chipset is going to be discontinued.

Note4 onwards exynos will have A57/A53 quad core clusters rather than existing A15/A7. Note4's new chipset also contains LTE radio from Intel.
[Galaxy S 5 General] zuari@hotmail.com:
I would suggest you to buy it, because chances of the price going down is very less... it has reached its stability point... i might be wrong though.

BTW, I was in france last week n the price there is 645euros (52,800rs) for the 4G version. :eek:
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
You couldn't be more wrong regarding the upcoming Exynos, 5433 it's still A15/A7. Matter of fact the performance in CPU is near 5422 levels but scaled to the frequency. GPU is quite faster.

Don't believe the rumored specs as they are rehashing the conception that there will be *any* Exynos 5 with 64-bit support. That will be Exynos 6.

Also if they have an Exynos variant, they will have one with LTE and one without (3G only) like it is right now, and you guys will probably get the non-LTE XMM6360 modem as usual.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sandeeppathak007:
Thanks guys, I am planning to buy it from flipkart due to their 30 days replacement policy. However anything that I need to look for if there is any known manufacturing defect....
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Just a Warning: Camera failed issue that happened to some with the Snapdragon variant.

I have yet to read from anyone having the issue on the Exynos one.:cowboy:
[Galaxy S 5 General] kannanX10:
vietnam --- as usual
[Galaxy S 5 General] sandeeppathak007:
I think flipkart is not settling the snapdragon version isn't it....
[Galaxy S 5 General] Bleeding-Edge-Armour:
None of the sellers are... Your best bet is finding a reliable seller on ebay if you really want the 801 chipset.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sandeeppathak007:
I think I would better settle with Indian version for warranty purposes

What you guys suggest how is the Indian version performance and battery backup and camera
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Please do not ask that.

It would be better if you read last 10-12 pages of this topic. You will find your answers there.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2711487

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2763574
[Galaxy S 5 General] predator21:
You are right... Simply go for it... I had both sd 801 n indian version.... In terms of batt and overall use both were almost same... N since i do not prefer gaming on fone... I cannot comment on that... Bt indian version did had better batt in my 2 day side by side use.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kannanX10:
yes battery life is good.............S5 exynos is much better than what many people are thinking,i was initially hesitant in getting S5 but after using it for couple of days i can confidently say samsung is back and running after its debacle with S4 exynos.........................
[Galaxy S 5 General] diimaan:
Seems to be a Snapdragon version, but still waiting for the confirmation from the seller. (from Amazon and it's for

36,490.00 INR)

Samsung Galaxy S5 (Charcoal Black)
[Galaxy S 5 General] kannanX10:
its a snapdragon variant............but i recommend exynos bcos better audio quality with wolfson chip,slightly better imaging capabilities,good battery life and with warranty..........flipkart's WS retail is selling it for 35.9k with 30 day replacement guarantee.................
[Galaxy S 5 General] diimaan:
Yes, the UI will feel much smoother because the way Samsung optimized their os to suit their chipset. The audio quality is a personal preference and the WCD9320 chip is not a slouch either.

The main gripes against exynos are, not many apps are optimized to utilize all the 8 cores completely.

But for me the real fly in the ointment is using the same old gpu which was used in Note 3. I can simply buy the Note 3 instead :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] diimaan:
I spoke to the Amazon customer care and they confirmed it's a Snapdragon 801 chipset with 2.5 GHz, also it comes with a 1 year manufacturer warranty (Note: not seller warranty).

Also the price is in 35,000 bracket now. :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
S801 in S5 also uses the same GPU like S800 in Note 3 (just over clocked)
[Galaxy S 5 General] diimaan:
But Mali-T628 is not comparable to Adreno-330 in S800, so obviously it's much inferior against the s801's one!

We can go on and on against each other with counters! I just simply stated a fact and not ranting on Samsung, just my gripe I said, :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
It depends if you game a lot or not(not the casual ones ,but the intensive ones.)

Exynos S5 seems to have more advantages this time (thanks to HMP) than previous iterations of exynos had over snapdragons.

And that's not something I am pulling out of no where ,read this thread again...

neither do I have something against someone :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 5 General] diimaan:
Yes, that's why I said the UI (i.e. Touchwiz feels a lot smoother on exynos) as they home brewed it to suit their processor! But not many apps are optimized for Sammy's CPU (i.e. Third party apps) compared to SD CPU.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Can you please list the apps that are Snapdragon-optimized?

Android apps are way less optimized than people think, this is not Windows nor it is Tegra.

It's OK that you prefer Snapdragons, I prefer Adreno rather than Mali myself but let's not go all the way to make things up.

I would confirm with Samsung India rather than Amazon on how to reclaim that warranty... I bet they'll do the same thing as they have done before and claim it's not supported.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
OT:

The Google I/O was a total let down (for me). Nothing revolutionary. Tons of APIs as usual, but as a user I didn't find anything that made me say WOW!

Material UI was meh, they are focusing on items which aren't that important. Wasting so much time on subtle UI changes is useless (I have a N4). Infact Apple did more changes in iOS8 than Google did in last few iterations. Better performance, battery are fine, these are incremental progressions and will always be there. Half the stuff around wear, TV and Auto are niche segments and are basically limited to US only. 64-bit was anyways coming after iOS, ART was already there. Not a single thing that was groundbreaking. I won't be sad if my phone doesn't get material UI, that looked convoluted to me. Even iOS got multi-window, sharing between apps, manual camera control now. I don't know what google is doing lately. I had used stock 4.2, 4.3, and 4.4. I really struggled to find substantial difference between them. It was as if everything was under the changes, and as a user you don't see much improvement.

I think OEMs do a lot more for Android, than Google. They had to take help from Samsung for Knox enterprise security.

Overall, not impressed at all.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
What did you expect/want? Also MultiWindow is not yet official on iOS 8.

A new design language is not something subtle, if you take a look at the design website, it's quite different from Holo.

They are previewing it because it's the first major shift in design since Holo and developers need to accomodate, it's a great step towards more openness from Google - there was a lot of criticism that Google hid all the details of their new Android versions until release, unlike Apple who gives a dev preview ahead of time.

It's funny and sad that we take all these improvements for granted, I'm really happy they actually have an initiative for battery improvement which has always been the sore point of my Nexus phones.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Rs. 35302 on Flipkart by WS Retail

http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/p/itmdv6f4k7hctgjz?pid=MOBDUUDTUFXXUQBD

I believe S5 will stabilize at ~34k. So price is right, if you want to buy.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sandeeppathak007:
What I could see as the price is 35824....

I think i would wait till 1-2 week of July to see if it goes near 34K.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Yes, prices just went up by 500/-

You will see further drop in prices in next 2-3 weeks but do not expect any huge drop.

I believe S5 prices will stabilize at ~34k because S4 is selling at 28-29k. And there is no more room for price drop with S5, at least for now.

So I think it's best time to buy S5 in range 34-35k.

Also, I noticed 780 people rated S5 on flipkart with 1.8 start rating. :P

I think it's the worst rating for any flagship device in the history of smartphones.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sandeeppathak007:
Hehe I bought 780 just for the time being about a week ago

I think most of the people who do not like the s5 is because Samsung not launching snapdragon version of it

However at the price of 34-35k s5 is quite a deal compared to z2 and m8 pricing
[Galaxy S 5 General] devilsdouble:
Yep, Snapdragon is the reason, TouchWiz following closely at second, for the low ratings. Thought about hitting the buy it now button at least hundred times on eBay for a F version then just thought about TouchWiz and it's awesomeness and ended up getting the Moto X! Can't be any more happy.

There should be a GPE of S5, that is if Samsung has any interest to capture any pure Android users, the Nexus group that would be.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
It's very easy to explain, most of them never bought the phone. You can rate in Flipkart without buying the product. Just go through the reviews, it's easy to see most of them are simply astroturfing or fanboy reviews.

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95% of population don't even know what Snapdragon is. If that was the reason the market won't be flooded by MediaTek chips. It's as if Snapdragon will suddenly turn this phone into Unicorn blood.

And Exynos isn't that bad like you make out to be. And many would claim that in Samsung phones Exynos based ROMs are better optimized (not all case though).
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
Rs. 34560 on Flipkart by WS Retail

http://www.flipkart.com/samsung-galaxy-s5/p/itmdv6f4k7hctgjz?pid=MOBDUUDTADHVQZXG

Act fast if you want to buy at this price.
[Galaxy S 5 General] traitor123:
Cheap Cheap Cheap :D

Buy on eBay @ 33325 with 1 year mf warranty and also 1 year screen replacement warranty worth 9000, you just have to pay handling charge of 990 when you give it to samsung service centre...
[Galaxy S 5 General] sandeeppathak007:
Does WS retail also provide that one time screen replacement in 900 ?

has anyone experience it, Would not buy from Ebay due to warranty issues and shipping issues
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
One time screen replacement is provided by Samsung. So it does not matter where you buy your S5 from.

This Ebay link that [MENTION=3605810]traitor123[/MENTION] shared, seller is very respectable. Never had any bad review, has 100% positive reviews from ~6500 reviews. You can trust this seller.

That ebay deal is as good as flipkart.

What warranty issues and shipping issues you were talking about?
[Galaxy S 5 General] devilsdouble:
What 95% population doesn't know is not my business, it doesn't interest me at all. Snapdragon won't make any phone into Unicorn blood, but it is what people in XDA prefers, and we are in XDA, we are here for support, for custom kernels, maybe even custom ROMs, and more importantly bug fixes, all of them supports the Snapdragon version only.

What's up with that gaming benchmark chart? Everyone knows an Octa core Exynos will have 2 or 3 frames more than SD, what's the point? Gaming is the only reason you purchased a phone? Then I can say you have chosen the right product, but there are people to whom a phone's last priority is gaming, including me, it's a joke to me to play games on a 5" display, sorry, and I am huge PC gamer by the way.

It's just a matter of time Samsung will ditch the Exynos crap for Snapdragon in India, so quite meaningless to argue about it anyway.

Need to turn off the quote notifications of XDA.
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
Is this a polite enough reply? :cowboy:
[Galaxy S 5 General] rl421403:
I have been hearing lots of Exynos whining. It's a total bull crap.

The fact is SD is not any better then Exynos and if it is (although it shows opposite in benchmark & tests) then the difference is very marginal, you cannot even notice it. Indians whining for SD variant because they cannot get it here officially. The only real benefit with SD variant is that it has better developer support. Other then that it's just houx.

The other thing people say, atleast in last couple of posts, SD is the reason S5 is not selling well and rated poor.

If SD is the reason then why S4 or Note3 are rated better and selling well in India. SD is only available in bunch of countries, then why S5 has poor sales worldwide, not just in India. Apart from handful of people, regular buyers do not know or care about SD variant.

and as [MENTION=4430575]drakester09[/MENTION] said, Exynos is not going anywhere.