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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AndyYan:
Wrong forum.

Epic 4G = SPH-D700

Epic 4G Touch = SPH-D710

Dedicated forum for Epic 4G Touch available, please search.

Sent from Lenovo Erazer Z500 @ AOSP Android 4.4.2
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] VECTUS:
Moved to Touch forum.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
Here's all of them-http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1903252
[Xperia Z2 General] shook187:
I've never bought a newly released International flagship phone before, so I'll be interested in knowing what's the best place to go about purchasing a Z2? This phone actually has me excited and I'll probably won't wait for a carrier version to show up, I'm sure I'm going to buy a International version. Is $800 about the right price one is expected to pay as I already see a eBay seller preselling them at that price.
[Xperia Z2 General] gclancer:
http://m.clove.co.uk/sony-xperia-z2

Clove is your best bet. I already preordered mine
[Xperia Z2 General] LitoNi:
Hes known with a reliable source

DACHA from esato

http://www.esato.com/board/viewtopic.php?topic=206261&start=2460

I would rather get a unlocked bootloader instead of a locked one (from carriers)
[Xperia Z2 General] crawlgsx:
Been wondering this myself. Pretty interested in the Z2 but don't know the best place to order one to get it sooner than later.
[Xperia Z2 General] Jeremiah_1988:
Will this work on att network?
[Xperia Z2 General] madgalaxy:
My guess it will be on store.sony.com here in the states a month or two after the international release. They did this with the Z, Z1 and Z Ultra. Just may take a little more time.
[Xperia Z2 General] mtl171:
Yes. It also supports all of AT&T's LTE bands.
[Xperia Z2 General] Jeremiah_1988:
MOD Edit: Comment removed Needs to hit my hometown store tomorrow at 10 am
[Xperia Z2 General] Trahald:
Does international version work with T-Mobile's AWS bands for T-Mobile 4G HSPA+ full speed?
[Xperia Z2 General] se1000:
Wow, I wonder where he's getting that from. It'll be a shame if it really is that long. Ouch.
[Xperia Z2 General] LitoNi:
USA is always late in the game, even Canada got the Z1 earlier than the states lol. So even if his source isnt reliable, I can judge from the launch of Z1.

TBH, you cant really blame Sony, it is mostly the carriers' fault. Like i said before, if you want a unlocked bootloader for custom roms and kernels, stay away from carriers' phones.
[Xperia Z2 General] se1000:
Yeah, I caved, pre-order with clove.uk in! I WANT THIS PHONE!
[Xperia Z2 General] LitoNi:
forgot to mention that cNet said Sony is already in the talks with US carriers, but due to the fact that Z1 was launched not long ago, Z2 will be pushed back.

Honestly, if you are going to get a Z2 through a carrier from the states, dont bother... either wait for Z3 which will be most likely be announced at IFA (September) or order Z2 through online stores like clove etc...
[Xperia Z2 General] se1000:
I don't think you read my post right. I put my preorder in with cove uk.
[Xperia Z2 General] socalwrxx:
I agree.. If its going to be released in July, better off just waiting for the LG G3, will most likely have 805 processor and OIS
[Xperia Z2 General] napkun:
Unlocked mobiles also is selling pre orders.

http://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z2-sim-free-p-84674.html

They're also giving away some bluetooth speakers and those digital noise canceling earphones

Edit - fixed link
[Xperia Z2 General] ThePwnie:
Its expensive though to pre-order right now. Will the price drop later?
[Xperia Z2 General] Funk2641:
Probably not till after release
[Xperia Z2 General] aimfire72:
Hmm, I don't know... None of the US carriers ever had the Z1. T-mobile launched the Z1S variant about a month ago, but that's it.

I don't think Z2 will be pushed back for that reason. Actually, I'm not even sure if it will be available on US carriers. Maybe T-Mobile, eventually.

In the US, I think our only options will be:

- Pre-order from the UK and pray there are no defects, etc.

- Wait for US importers like Negri to get them (and probably jack up the price a bit)

- Wait for the Sony Store or web site to offer them. This is probably our best bet, but no idea when they'll actually have them.

- Or lastly, wait for T-mobile to release the Z2S with a locked bootloader about 1 month before the release of the Z3 ;)
[Xperia Z2 General] popcity:
Not to mention if the Z2 ever comes out over here the carriers might alter the design like T-Mobile did to the Z1s.. Plastic frame instead of aluminum..
[Xperia Z2 General] Shamingo:
Can anyone speak to Clove's warranty policy? Will they help out if there are issues? On that, does anyone know if this international Z2 carries any warranty here in the US?
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
Don't quote me on it, but I would assume no matter where you buy it from it would come with Sonys standard warranty. Maybe a better question for Sony
[Xperia Z2 General] napkun:
I believe that it does come with a 24 month manufacturers warranty from Sony
[Xperia Z2 General] bigbrown:
Stupid question: do we pay VAT if it's shipped to US?

Edit- found this thread and looks like i don't need to pay VAT, but will be charged an import duty:

http://www.chronofhorse.com/forum/s...Europe-shipping-into-US&p=6328642#post6328642

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=443402

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http://www.handtec.co.uk/sony-xperia-z2-white-free-sony-srs-btm8-speaker.html

A bit cheaper
[Xperia Z2 General] gclancer:
Handtec is always couple bucks cheaper but i ve been buying from Clove since the Z and their service is great. One more thing, clove always sells UK unbranded version on all the phones they're selling but not handtec.
[Xperia Z2 General] bryancotton84:
Does clove or any of these websites have financing? Lol I want this phone badly but don't want to wait forever to get it!
[Xperia Z2 General] Ihanson:
Has anyone gotten confirmation about the $600 price rumor available from T-Mobile that I had seen floating around? Never saw the original source but saw it referenced in numerous articles last week and it piqued my interest.
[Xperia Z2 General] AceDaMack:
Boost Mobile?
[Xperia Z2 General] AwesomeAHlee:
it only has one ATT LTE band, it doesn't support 700 MHz, so the LTE might not work everywhere.
[Xperia Z2 General] Funk2641:
It has both: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z2/specifications/#tabs

band 4: 1700 mhz

band 17 : 700
[Xperia Z2 General] AceDaMack:
band 4: 1700 mhz

band 17 : 700[/QUOTE]

so it will work with boost LTE?
[Xperia Z2 General] JMonkeYJ:
From what I can tell Boost uses Sprint's LTE network, which does not appear to be supported by the international Z2, at least. Sorry :(

Sources:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_LTE_networks

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z2/specifications/#tabs
[Xperia Z2 General] AwesomeAHlee:
sorry i was looking at specs for d6543, and thank you now i can place my order too.
[Xperia Z2 General] JMonkeYJ:
Well if the rumors of US release on (all? most?) major carriers are true, there still might be hope for you! :good:
[Xperia Z2 General] GigaSPX:
I sure would hope so this would be available on all carriers in the US. As soon as it hits Verizon, I'm ready to throw money for it. Lol
[Xperia Z2 General] bryancotton84:
Let's just hope it isn't in September when its released!
[Xperia Z2 General] mikea29:
Of course, I upgraded in Jan when the z1s came out. I knew the Z2 was coming out but I figured it would be Aug before it got released on TMobile and I could upgrade with JUMP then. Have you guys had good experiences with buying unlocked overseas? It feels a little hard for me to drop 600 at one time on a phone.
[Xperia Z2 General] barondebxl:
Are you sure about this??? Cause if it does I think I may just have found my new phone.
[Xperia Z2 General] mtl171:
Pretty sure. That is unless there is a change between the specs listed on the white paper and the final product. AT&T currently uses bands 2, 4, 5 and 17 for LTE and HSPA+. The Z2, D6503, supports bands 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 8, 13, 17 and 20.
[Xperia Z2 General] barondebxl:
Great thanks buddy, never tried a Sony phone before so this might be it. If I wait for the US carriers to pick this up it might be a while but I need my LTE.
[Xperia Z2 General] bdithug:
The only thing that I'm questioning is the price.. I can't justify spending 800$ on a phone.. I'm torn between this and the nexus 6...
[Xperia Z2 General] barondebxl:
I agree, the price is quite ridiculous. I'll definitely not pay that much for any flagship this year, I even rather wait a month or 2.
[Xperia Z2 General] shook187:
If you're patient and you wait a little bit longer I'm pretty sure you be able to get it for what they retail for.
[Xperia Z2 General] mtl171:
Same. Though by the time the Nexus 6 is released (sometime in October/November), the Z3 will also be out assuming Sony follows their 6 month cycle.
[Xperia Z2 General] s1dest3pnate:
$800? Where you getting that from? $650 from unlock-mobiles.com
[Xperia Z2 General] shook187:
Where is the unlock mobile com link? I can't seem to find such a site with that price the only site I see is for 545 in euros which is over $900 bucks in US dollars
[Xperia Z2 General] napkun:
http://www.unlocked-mobiles.com/sim-free-mobile-phones/sony-xperia-z2-sim-free-p-84674.html

The listed price is £454 excluding VAT, which equates to ~$760. Including shipping should be around $800. Unless I'm mistaken, their currency is in British Pounds not Euros, 454 Euros + shipping would be ~$650.
[Xperia Z2 General] mtl171:
Just checked, the price is definitely in pounds. While we don't have to pay VAT or import fees, it's still pricey.
[Xperia Z2 General] AwesomeAHlee:
maybe we won't have to wait that much this time, sony has a page for the z2 on their main site. Last year they created a page for the xperia z much later than the international release. Also they don't have to worry about creating a different model for the US like c6603 and c6606.
[Xperia Z2 General] s1dest3pnate:
Yep, my mistake. That is pricey...
[Xperia Z2 General] ajbattaglia83:
Anyone interested in a Google Play Edition? I would assume you would loose the 4K video capability...
[Xperia Z2 General] AwesomeAHlee:
i am interested in gpe, cuz i don't record videos often and 1080p is good enough.
[Xperia Z2 General] suleiman.aql:
GPE of the Z2 would be my ultimate phone. Man, GPE of the Z1 is already too good if it existed!

How can we make this happen?
[Xperia Z2 General] Ihanson:
I may end up going with the LG G PRO 2 over the Z2 in May when I get back to the States, since I'm assuming it will be cheaper and more widely available and still does most everything I'd want the Z2 to do. Time will tell I suppose.
[Xperia Z2 General] Lancez:
dose international Z2 support T-mo LTE in US?
[Xperia Z2 General] mtl171:
Yes. T-mobile currently uses bands 2 and 4 for LTE and HSPA+ both of which the D6503 support.
[Xperia Z2 General] Lancez:
thanks for clearing that up, i was kinda confused. the last sony i've had was x10a :laugh:
[Xperia Z2 General] bobbarker2:
Have there been anymore rumors about availability in the US?
[Xperia Z2 General] Ihanson:
None that I've heard...
[Xperia Z2 General] shook187:
Maybe eventually a Google Play Edition?
[Xperia Z2 General] AwesomeAHlee:
no but there is a page on sony.com for the xperia z2 pre registration, hopefully they'll start selling it soon.
[Xperia Z2 General] david209:
so is all clear for tmobile right?

wheres the best place to buy the phone right now?
[Xperia Z2 General] mtl171:
If you buy the international version, D6503, it will work on T-mobile. You cannot buy the phone right now as it has not been released. When it is released, you can most likely buy it from the usual websites such as Expansys, Negri Electronics etc.
[Xperia Z2 General] Raspster:
The model that is up for pre-order from Clove WILL work with both AT&T LTE and T-Mobile. I have the Z1 6906 that works with AT&T LTE and the bands on the box for that phone are the exact same bands for LTE that Clove is listing. This is GREAT that Sony will have the 1st Z2 released that works on both AT&T and T-Mobile LTE at launch!
[Xperia Z2 General] AngryDinosaur:
im sure it will be out in most major carriers in the US. i am sure sony learned their lesson, to compete with samsung and apple, release your phone everywhere possible
[Xperia Z2 General] ajent:
http://au.ibtimes.com/articles/543079/20140313/sony-xperia-z2-carrier-predictions-t-mobile.htm

Here shows it can support verizon LTE. I would love to put this on vzw, but if they choose not to carry it, are they still only allowing phones that are sold by them?

thanks
[Xperia Z2 General] JJT211:
I truly hope so!

I'd be finished with Verizon if they dont!
[Xperia Z2 General] david209:
what the heck is vat?

would i have to pay vat if i order from clove?
[Xperia Z2 General] Felimenta97:
VAT are the taxes from products bought in the UK. If you are shipping to US, they will not charge you the VAT. Looks like US could do that also (when shipping from there no other countries...)
[Xperia Z2 General] david209:
Oh..

Yeah im ordering to the US, i was about to look for a different phone if i had to pay that lol :D
[Xperia Z2 General] napkun:
I just decided to pre order from clove. The advantages of an unlocked phone along with not having to deal with carrier bloat apps/updates is worth the extra money. Plus the free speakers and noise canceling headphones are nice :D
[Xperia Z2 General] robertopod1968:
Sony wanted their other phones to be on all the carriers also. But they don't always get to decide what carrier gets a phone. The carriers purchase what phones they want. If they don't buy them then Sony can't force them too.
[Xperia Z2 General] AngryDinosaur:
Do you get lte in the US if you get unlocked international version?
[Xperia Z2 General] napkun:
The 6503 version that is on pre order from the UK has all the LTE bands for AT&T and T-Mobile. Not sure if there will be other versions of it or not but the 6503 will be LTE capable
[Xperia Z2 General] AngryDinosaur:
Damn it I want it
[Xperia Z2 General] thepanttherlady:
Purchased my XZ1 from Clove, great customer service. Pre-ordered the XZ2 on 2/28 and paid for it 3/12 when they sent me the invoice, can't wait to get this!!! :D
[Xperia Z2 General] Galactic2:
have they started shipping yet?
[Xperia Z2 General] thepanttherlady:
Not till week of April 7th.
[Xperia Z2 General] Tidbits:
I'd rather wait until Sony sells for the US market(yes Sony sells unlocked, and unbranded versions for the US market) than pay an extra $200+ to get the international version.
[Xperia Z2 General] JMonkeYJ:
How long does it take for them to offer phones in the US? My impression is that it's at least a couple months, but I could be off.
[Xperia Z2 General] Tidbits:
I believe the Z was 2 months after Europe and the Z1 took longer because the Z1S was exclusive(to increase sales of the Z1S perhaps) to T-Mobile. The Z Ultra however took like 6 months I believe. For $200+ difference I don't mind the wait personally.
[Xperia Z2 General] Spectre51:
nm
[Xperia Z2 General] augie7107:
Share your thoughts, please. You always have the correct Sony and/or at&t info.
[Xperia Z2 General] Spectre51:
Unlocked may/June (no confirmation yet on if hspa only or lte), one carrier later this year.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Ultra
[Xperia Z2 General] JMonkeYJ:
I have a feeling I won't be able to hold out and will end up importing before then...
[Xperia Z2 General] DAddYE:
If I'm not wrong the z1s is locked.
[Xperia Z2 General] Tidbits:
The Z1S is locked, but you can buy the Z1 from Sony for the North American market and not the Z1S.
[Xperia Z2 General] samven582:
xperia z1 LTE unlocked is finally available in the US market

http://store.sony.com/xperia-z1-lte...catid-Android-Smartphone?vva_ColorCode=42315D
[Xperia Z2 General] AirSupply:
Does anyone know if I order from Clove UK, can I use it on either ATT or TMobile network here in US? Thanks
[Xperia Z2 General] napkun:
You'll be able to use it for both networks
[Xperia Z2 General] AirSupply:
Thank you, I am still debating myself whether to get this one or the M8. I am using the M7 right now.
[Xperia Z2 General] augie7107:
Backorder until 4/30
[Xperia Z2 General] samven582:
Not the black one
[Xperia Z2 General] AirSupply:
Guys, should I order it from Clove and ship to US? Or waiting for xxx days until it is available in US?
[Xperia Z2 General] augie7107:
None are backordered now.

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I ordered from Clove. There was one on Ebay from Thailand you could have in a week.
[Xperia Z2 General] bobbarker2:
Have you had any new info about US carrier release? In light of this info I would think that the one carrier is Verizon. The leak makes it sound like the Z2 will be coming soon to Verizon but no specifics.
[Xperia Z2 General] Spectre51:
No confirmed dates but it is later this year as in after June/July and yes Verizon is what I am hearing.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z1
[Xperia Z2 General] pauley:
I just preordered the white D6503 from Handtec.co.uk shipped to me in the USA for £457.89 with the speaker & headphones promo. Handtec posted earlier today on their blog that it was delayed by Sony but is now expected to launch in May.
[Xperia Z2 General] dany20mh:
New news :

http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-xperia-z2-will-still-be-available-uk-april
[Xperia Z2 General] bobbarker2:
And what's this have to do with US release?
[Xperia Z2 General] dany20mh:
It doesn't have anything with the US release and if you look at the topic subject it says , for us in the US , so that news means if you order it from UK , you still won't get any delay on it or maybe a little bit.
[Xperia Z2 General] dany20mh:
Bell ( Canda Carrier ) confirm exclusive release date for May :

http://mobilesyrup.com/2014/04/01/sony-xperia-z2-coming-to-bell-in-may-as-an-exclusive/
[Xperia Z2 General] samven582:
Coming this Summer unlocked

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/04/26/unlocked-xperia-z2-to-see-summer-launch-in-united-states/
[Xperia Z2 General] iArvee:
Anyone else order from e-bagel-tw on ebay? There was a thread before (not sure if this is the same one) that people have ordered from him. Any news on whether e-bagel-tw has stock on Z2s or is he also waiting on the delays?
[Xperia Z2 General] augie7107:
I ordered from 23port and he has some available.

http://m.ebay.com/itm/151278883392?nav=SEARCH
[Xperia Z2 General] hanano17:
I ordered from him last week and it was out for delivery today, DHL decided to skip me...so now I guess tomorrow I'll get it. Anyway, yeah I believe he still has stock.
[Xperia Z2 General] Publicglutton:
Sorry peeps, but reports have come into pocketnow.com that the Z2 wont be coming to the US until July..:crying:.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lMjiVC0kPmM&feature=em-uploademail
[Xperia Z2 General] rickaysen:
I ordered my from him and it was painless and quick. I even emailed to ask about the magnetic charging dock that others had received with their phones. He said it wasn't included in my purchase but will send one out free of charge if I simply recommend him to others looking for a Z2.
[Xperia Z2 General] Lancez:
your post is fishy :p
[Xperia Z2 General] rickaysen:
What, exactly, does that mean?
[Xperia Z2 General] roninr1c:
Just wanted to say thanks to everyone in the thread that suggested "e-bagel-tw" from ebay. I bought my Z2 from him last Thursday and got it yesterday. Excellent seller.

:good::good::good:
[Xperia Z2 General] samven582:
how much did you pay for it?
[Xperia Z2 General] prazvt:
Just got an e-mail from Clove. Looks like they'll be shipping my Z2 and speaker bundle on May 9th!
[Xperia Z2 General] carman594:
So July for us in the US, huh? I definitely don't want to wait that long. Looks like I'm forced to decide now between the M8 and the S5, sadly.
[Xperia Z2 General] dany20mh:
It would be unlock price and if you don't want to wait that long you can already order from uk sites like clove and get it by May 10th or you can even order it from eBay

It would be same...
[Xperia Z2 General] carman594:
Well I personally am not going to pay the unlocked price for the phone, I only get phones under contract.
[Xperia Z2 General] dany20mh:
So I think you didn't read the news correctly, the device won't come to any carrier in US, it will comes as unlock for US in summer through the Sony Store.

So if you don't want to pay for the phone off the contract don't wait at all because you won't see it on any carrier in US.
[Xperia Z2 General] carman594:
Piss, I didn't know that the phone will ONLY be available unlocked here in the states. I thought it was just AN option.
[Xperia Z2 General] bobbarker2:
No, you read it wrong. It is coming to the US through the Sony Store at first but Sony is in talks with carriers still so it isnt' known for sure either way.
[Xperia Z2 General] augie7107:
Spectre51 would have this info. His post a month ago stated one carrier in US in June/July time frame. He has always been correct regarding Sony. Not sure if he's lurking and can confirm.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pr20:
You mean the price would be same?
[Xperia Z2 General] schecter7:
Yeah - what's up with Spectre51? I haven't seen him in a while.

But I don't understand the big deal about US carrier availability. Tmobile which is most likely to be the US carrier for z2 doesn't subsidize their phones. So for the people on tmobile, buying it from tmobile or clove or ebay don't make any difference. An imported z2 may cost them $100 more, but it comes with noise cancelling headsets, dock, etc and totally justifies that price. Those won't be included in the US kits - mark my word.

Now for the AT&T folks (like me), the wait may be worth it. Until last year, AT&T was the only major carrier that offered Sony devices every year. Since things changed last year and AT&T didn't carry any Sony phone, I thought this is going to be the same this year and grabbed one from eBay.
[Xperia Z2 General] dany20mh:
Almost but it's all depend what they would have in their package, right now you can find many good deal in UK with a lot of free stuff and not too much high and you can have the phone right away and you don't need to wait for summer until it may come to US or not ( who knows ).
[Xperia Z2 General] augie7107:
I'm with you. AT&T and Sony don't get along these days for some reason. I went the Ebay route as well.
[Xperia Z2 General] carman594:
T-Mobile may not subsidize their phones, however they allow you to pay it off over 24 months, which is very beneficial to many including myself.
[Xperia Z2 General] nyichiban:
I got mine from eBay through eport23. Bought it on Wednesday arrived Friday same week. The current bundle in Taiwan is the dock case and earphones. Make sure your seller offers this. I told eport23 about the bundle and they told me they will include it. Paid 845 total and another 84 for square trade warranty for two years. Hope this helps others waiting to buy one. The US release like others have said are going to be sold through Sony stores and will come unlocked. I think the model will be D6543 for the US. Most likely more frequencies but the D6503 works on tmobile and att. But be aware that it only days hspa+ for Lte.
[Xperia Z2 General] Pr20:
Thanks. I checked out clove. Comes to 785, which is not too bad. The other problem I see is if you want to return the device or you have issues with the phone. If that's not that big a deal I think i will order it.
[Xperia Z2 General] sob33316:
+1 supposed to ship may 8th.
[Xperia Z2 General] Wolf1915:
There are rumors for a Verizon exclusive this summer...