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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
When did I bash on people for your first reason? XDA is for enthusiasts which means stock or not..there's accessory reviews and other kinds of development on this forum. I tend to get annoyed when there's repetitive threads about the same thing such as "what roms can I install?".

All this huff and puff for the recommendation of buying a development device and talking about wanting an update on an update thread...:what: I've helped more people than you know, especially the ones that seemed to have made an attempt.

For the battery life, the brightness is kept down and data is off when no in use :P
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
Senior Member

Thanks Meter*

Posts:*942

Join Date:*Dec 2010

"Love what S4...what bootloader? I had my best times with the DX and its locked bootloader. This whole BL thing is so overblown with the S4. Repetitive threads and posts about it...it's like a broken record.

"Well, you could sell your s4 and buy the developer edition or you could've bought one from the beginning. I guess you don't "want" the unlocked BL that bad?*

"Also, I think I'll leave this here. Apparently, nobody knows anything about what samsung and Verizon offers.*

http://m.androidcentral.com/verizon-galaxy-s4-developer-edition-goes-sale-650*

Buy..."
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MajorLeagueROM:
Whoa

I think we're all losing the focus here
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] :
Promoting a developer device is not bashing :p. And why don't you also attempt to attack the folks who tried to "bash" me for sharing my OPINION about the update...on an UPDATE thread. First quote is irrelevant to your statement.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gigilie:
case you guys forgot

this thread is about 4.4.2 not random crap or petty arguments. I'm sure the owner of the thread will agree. I just stopped in to make sure no one else had gotten anywhere on this but I'll hopefully be putting together a tutorial and releasing a 4.42 SafeStrap enabled rom later today early tomorrow. I was able to get on 4.4 with Safestrap and then revert back to MK2 tho it took 12 hrs of me wondering if i would as I messed up leaving my phone with no os or recovery for a brief moment....

but back on track why don't you guys talk about what ROM's you want to see ported over to VZW that are already 4.42 ready. that'll give you all something to talk about :)

peace

-gogolie
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zero26800:
I'm not so much upset at the length of time it is taking to drop 4.4.2 but at the lack of updates from Verizon regarding the status of the update... Oh well...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] chamberc:
As the update gets near (30-60 days pre-update) Verizon will make details known. More times than not, Verizon upgrades their current phones 6 months after the international release for the device.

This isn't always the case, as with 4.3 it came rather quickly, however, historically, these updates come 6+ months after the international devices receive the updates.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MajorLeagueROM:
6 months

:crying: 6 months?! anyone wanna trade lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] fillyo:
I will have the new One before this things gets 4.4
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] quarky42:
That is exactly what Verizon wants you to do. They want to sell the new one instead of update the old one. All phones are old after they are sold.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] xsalemx:
Or, they want to make sure that things work before unleashing a massive update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] trollishtrucker:
This is vzw we are talking about. They want to add more bloat into it first.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] quarky42:
It takes longer to make sure things work when you include so much extra crapware on the device.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mike.s:
VZW makes their money from services. They want you to upgrade so you lose unlimited data, or to lock you in with a 2 year contract extension, not because they're making a bunch of money from hardware sales.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] quarky42:
Sure, or they want you to upgrade hardware so they don't have to devote as many resources to the older stuff. I never said that Verizon made money on hardware. I just said that they wanted you to upgrade. Big difference.

The reasons they want you to upgrade include the ones you mentioned but there is more to it than even that.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] zero26800:
To be honest....I think anyone that pays attention enough to the world of android is not going to upgrade to the s5 just for kittkat. So, I my best guess for Verizon and their update scheduling is more of a lack of resources in their ability to maintain updated devices, because why put money into an area that does not profit directly.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] krazie1:
Has anyone seen this very exciting tweet?

https://twitter.com/sxtpdevelopers/status/447045116964777984

We might be seeing 4.4.2 soon
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Let's hope its a leak
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
Leaks are cool. Used to get them for Moto phones all the time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joejtford:
For the bionic. Good times.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] T1geR086:
Convinced me!

I was planning on taking the update, and reading the several views on here on the subject I (not that anyone cares) am swayed to be happy with what I have for certain that I can at least use Hyperdrive, which as others have said is pretty damn nice! I can see the logic in assuming or knowing Samsung will lock this update like dads daughters on prom night and likely take away the customization we have achieved.. (not that i really did anything)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] joshm.1219:
By the time 4.4.2 comes, we'll still be behind

Android Headlines: Report: Android 4.4.3 In Testing Already. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIwzde_nBo
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
I hope no one is surprised by that. Every phone I've ever owned (non-Nexus) is almost always at least 0.0.1 version behind. Especially on Big Red.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Ainnir:
When the update rolls out will I have an option to decline or will it update in the background automatically?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] myn:
April...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
At this rate April 2015
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] gnubian:
if you are not rooted and haven't deleted sdm.apk it will keep trying to update it. You can delay it, I believe, but if you are asleep or something when it tries again it may update. I could be wrong though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Mistertac:
You could always root with saferoot which is really easy then use Titanium Backup to freeze "SDM" and you'd be good. No more worrying.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Ainnir:
Thank you both for your responses. I wanted to preserve root and I ended up freezing both SDM.apk and FWupdate.apk
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] sigmaxaa:
Myn...LOVED your work on my old Evo! With you posting in this forum, is there the slightest chance the S4 will be getting some Warm love???
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
I already have 4.4.2. Though not the one released by big red. The 4.4 KitKat International TW ROM Goldeneye. It's been solid as a rock so far.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2674280
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] todd3835:
Unless something had changed, that only works for MDK users. If he is on stock MK2, he can't run it. Not to be rude, but your comment is pretty much pointless to a good chunk of the s4 Verizon community
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
Oh man, I'm sorry, that completely slipped my mind. That was pretty insensitive of me. My apologies. :(
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MajorLeagueROM:
Looks like were waiting

:( i tried going to t-mobile s4 roms but they never fully loaded looks like we have to wait till verizon finally releases 4.4.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
Maybe, but it's useful to those of us on MDK.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] todd3835:
While that may be true, it was in response to someone that stayed they were on mk2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] marinegundoctor:
So True

I've despised that app since vzw started putting on phones. That and many other stupid apps. Why does vzw even try to sell VZNavigator anymore? Totally useless IMO.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
The link I posted was for the Aroma patch installer that gets international ROMs to work with Verizon phones. Not sure if it works with T-mobile ROMs but it's worth a shot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MajorLeagueROM:
thanks but it didn't work too bad would've have been great if it did
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
I had way too many issues with dropping data connection with the aroma patch. Just my personal experience, but I'll be waiting until the official VZW release. Very impressed with the changes (performance-wise mainly), but I just couldn't deal with rebooting my phone 3 times a day.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
Are you talking about the same thing I have installed? GoldenEye with jrkruse's Aroma patch? If so, did you bring it up in the thread so he could help fix it? Mine has been solid, no rebooting to speak of.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
Yes, and no. I am patient enough to wait for a Verizon release though, I'd rather have something inherently stable than something where I have to worry if I'm going to drop data.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
It could be a kernel issue. What kernel are you using? That could explain the reboots. And have you updated to the latest MK2 radio modem? That could explain dropped data.

Are you really willing to lose your MDK bootloader to install this stock ROM? It'll be a great ROM for sure, but since you already have MDK, it just seems crazy to throw it away on purpose. Unless you're tired of flashing ROMs, then by all means...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
KT's kernel. Never had an issue on AOSP. And I didn't mean I'd flash VZW official, just that I'd wait for a VZW official with bootloader removed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
lol ohh gotcha. Yeah I thought about that too and I may do that also when it's released. I too use KT's kernel, hmm.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thesoldier:
I've had none of those problems with GE 26 and the aroma patch, stock kernel. It may be worth a try to redownload. Data is stable and no reboots.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
They weren't random reboots. I was forced to reboot to get data/network back. The ROM itself is very stable, just can't deal with the dropped network.

Maybe I'll try again after work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] thesoldier:
Do you work/live in a spotty service area? That may contribute to your dropped data, especially if it's switching between 3g/4g all the time.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] 32BitWhore:
Nope, rock solid LTE coverage in my town, no dead zones to speak of. Happened when I was on WiFi and also when I was not. It wasn't just data I lost but compete network coverage. No calls, sms, mms, or data at all. Airplane mode did nothing, was forced to reboot.

The worst part was I was missing important sms/calls/emails all day without realizing it because the coverage dropped with no warning and wouldn't fix itself without a reboot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Velocifero:
Last night I started getting the same thing with the GoldenEye ROM...I go into more detail here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=51688430
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
Update is probably done at this point, but based on this marketing material, Verizon is just holding it back so that they can promote the S5 while claiming that the S3 and S4 are "stuck" on JB.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] krazie1:
Do you guys want Kitkat 4.4.2 specifically for I545?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heath2805:
Yes! We have patched/ported work arounds for stock 4.4.2 thanks to jrkruse and other devs. But still no official yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] krazie1:
I will link once they uploaded it, it is in TAR form so its ODIN flashable. Its coming from sxtp......
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] heath2805:
Sweet! We'll have to figure out how it effects the MDK version. Which is the only version with a loki'ed bootloader work around. All the other versions have safestrap access thanks to hashcode.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] krazie1:
The upload is at 57%
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
Is this the same version that was in that screenshot from last month?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] krazie1:
https://twitter.com/sxtpdevelopers/status/456127636092104704
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] JihadSquad:
That screenshot from last month also showed FNC2 in the build number, so this is probably a release of that same version.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ToxicSkin:
Oh man I can't wait till SBreen works his magic on this!!!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Everyone stop and think for a second. People will flash this and lose root. We're examining it and thinking of a game plan right now so if you want to keep root sit tight for a bit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] dtomlin:
Man this is hard to resist
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jwhistler:
Resistance is futile...you will be assimilated!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] k1mu:
What he said. If you really, really need to flash this, be prepared to kiss root good bye, possibly PERMANENTLY.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
The aboot counter on this thing is at 6 and I believe it was at 4 or 5 on MK2 therefore flashing back to MK2 will be unlikely.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jeboo:
Yep, MK2 aboot was 5 and NC2 is 6, so no aboot reversion will be possible.

I don't see any changes to boot.img structure, so rooting/custom roms will likely be similar to ATT users. Reverting to MK2, root, then upgrade/flash rom via SS.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Surprised to see sammy not patch the ability to downgrade after the att release but definately good news. I'm going to play around with a SS Pre-Rooted Stock ROM, will share if it works unless someone beats me to it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Surge1223:
Yep im testing the method you guys used on AT&T, I already made the Odin images and prerooted rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
All yours Surge! Thanks Brutha!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jeboo:
Likewise, I thought for sure they'd blacklist that MK2 kernel..There are tons of threads over in the i337 forum on how to do this. Btw, I believe they also use my bypasslkm during the process as well (for wifi on MK2).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] muniz_ri:
Yep, bypasslkm worked like a charm. I also used your z-patch kernel on my m919 before we received the official 4.4. Keep up all of the great work!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] loonie01:
Good find. can't wait for the tutorials to start popping up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] DjSkreem:
kitkad 4.4.2 leak

hey i posted the link to the 4.4.2 os leak for our phone check my post
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jwendt79:
Look like the update is coming May 2nd

http://www.android.gs/android-4-4-2-kitkat-update-to-roll-out-soon-for-verizon-samsung-galaxy-s4/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] ohbuckeyeman:
May 2 2015?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jamesd1085:
Got a good laugh from this....lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shotjas:
Looks like April 28th, 2014 was released as official for S4 on Verizon. Not exactly sure of the validity of this however. Was all over my G+ today.

http://itechtriad.com/articles/2014/4/21/sources-confirm-kitkat-updates-for-verizon-note-2-note-3-s4-and-s4-mini-before-the-end-of-may
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mhannah3333:
Once the OTA drops will there be a feasible root method to use?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] PhreeqQitsikk:
I'm probably grasping at straws, but hopefully the SuperSU Survival Mode will work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Sir_Eagle:
Didn't work with the leak.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
Somebody correct me if I'm wrong but when you flash the leak via Odin you completely overwrite the partitions.

With an official ota, it doesn't.

Or with an ota.zip via stock recovery.

I may be wrong but that is how I understand it. I think there might be a slight possibility that survival mode can work with the official ota.

Unless of course there is a compatibility issue with 4.4.2.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] jmgib:
Correct. Survival mode would only work with an OTA style upgrade and not Odin.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2727876

Anyone know if the s4 leak has the same vulnerability as the note 3 leak.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Domvillan:
Kit Kat 4.4.2

Just checked for my OTA update.... and its here

I have a Verizon GS4 16gb in USA.

I am not so concerned with losing root. So off I go.

wish me luck. I ill post updates
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Coycaine:
He was not lying!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] snaveevans:
I'm in to know...

Do you have Root, SuperSU and survival mode? If so I'd like to know if you keep root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] klabit87:
Somebody please pull the ota.zip before allowing it to update
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] AJ26T:
Its VRUFNC5
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mhannah3333:
I am downloading the ota. So i just kill sdm when it's finished to pull the ota?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] tshelby73:
What's the Se status enforcing or permissive on nc5 I'm sure it's enforcing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] MorrisC2010:
Any Updates You Guys?

EDIT

Downloading OTA now will mirror when done

Also, Will Take The Plunge and See if SuperSU Survival Mode will work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Hashbang173:
Just dont click install yet, press the home button, then presuming you have root you should open a file explorer and go into /cache It should be in there
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] mhannah3333:
Got it.. Thanks
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S 4] Shotjas:
Waiting patiently for the file to be hosted.
[LG Optimus Black] body_90:
i make root to my phone and i want to make flash but it give ( security error ) and i try to solve it from flash tool with room V30C_00.kdz

but give the same problem ,my phone is LG p970 and my room was ICS 4.0.4

pleas help me.
[LG Optimus Black] Ilko:
which flash tool ? use smartflash with proper files. the firmware should have an integrated recovery mod for letting you doing a factory reset
[LG Optimus Black] rjunai:
you need to install an earlier version (V20X) and then upgrade to version (V30X) 4.0.4 or better go to cm10.1 or 4.2.2 Mackay ... SmartFlash and y need to use bin files ...

ICS 4.0.4 no good for root or use rom manager = security error ...

*sorry bad english , im brazilian ... I'm learning ..
[LG Optimus Black] AZjaguar:
u should flash v10(froyo) using smart flash tool and then root by ginger break and install rom manager and CWM.

if u find v10 rom send its link to me pls!
[LG Optimus Black] rjunai:
wrong link sorry ...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ibawanzingee:
Hey guys,

I traded chargers with my step dad because he had a white charger for his black s4, and I had a black charger for my white s3. looking closely, I noticed there was a difference of 1 (ampere?) between the two chargers under "output": S4 is 2A, S3 is 1A. should I stop using the charger for the s4 and go back to my original charger? I don't know if this is bad for the phone.

Thanks for any help.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] buhohitr:
Its a good trade for you, S4 charger is better(2amp), faster charge for you and slower charge for him. The S3 doesn't limit the charge to 1amp, so your phone should charge noticable faster.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ibawanzingee:
Wow, thank you very much for your informative reply!
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] AndroidInsanity:
Figured I would write a quick review of this awesome tablet since I have seen many questions on XDA but no review.

Build quality: build quality as a whole is brilliant, it only creaks if you apply a lot of pressure to the device, and if you I like to squeeze your devices then you may have personal issues :P, this tablet is not for someone who likes beautiful pretty tablets, the design is for someone who likes build quality that screams power and has a very aggressive design.

Display: the display is not the best we all seem to have realised that, but its good enough and there is much worse out their. The colours seem washed out a lot but one positive (with mine anyway) is the white colour, its REALLY pure white, no yellowish hue or blue.

Camera: both are not good, front is unusable and back is OK but lacks detail. ALOT. Still can't find where the slow motion feature is.

Performance wise: this tablet is blazing fast, its the fastest tablet I have owned hands down, and I have has the nexus 7 2013 and Toshiba excite pro which also had a tegra 4 processor. Lag is non existent and apps open up faster than my galaxy S4.

benchmarks:

Geekbench multi core: 2503

Antutu: 35090

Stylus: I have had every single galaxy note device and the stylus on the tegra note is much more accurate and responsive, with the galaxy note the on screen cursor always lagged a couple millimetres behind the pen, but this tegra note is much more accurate, would of looked much better though if screen was Full HD.

Battery: battery life has been OK, I am currently on KitKat and I get the same screen on time as I do in heavy usage as I do on my S4, which is between 5 - 6 hours. Its enough for me but may not be for some. I always use it on the balance settings with low brightness, sync off and WiFi always on.

Software: KitKat update has been OK for me, I don't have a SD card inside so don't experience the issues with the SD writing. Its stock android and is buttery smooth.

My rating: 9\10

I love this tablet after all, probably would give it a 7.5 if it wasn't so cheap (got mine for £140)

Any sensible questions are welcome. Will be doing a video review on my YouTube channel soon.
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] tystar:
Nice review, I was torn between the Nexus 7 2013 and the Note and eventually went with the note and can't say I'm disappointed as yet. Little miffed at the moment with the SD card issue since the KitKat upgrade but hopefully will be sorted shortly.
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] AndroidInsanity:
I was worried about the 1gb RAM but I haven't had any issues yet.
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] Kenobz:
The screen sounds worrisome how bad is bad???

We all have different definitions of screens my Galaxy Note 3 is seriously annoying I prefer the neutral Asus Memo Pad HD 7 is it neutral at least or does it look like 08-09 tech??? From the vids I've seen it seems fine but I know it's different in person.
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] aliaksei:
At 213 DPI, is somewhere just above the acceptable line, dead trigger 2 on high graphics and full brightness looks amazing, but kills the battery in under 2hours. So far from the best, but equally far from the worst possible, screen is fairly mediocre, but the extra power of the Tegra chip makes up for that with increased graphic fidelity.
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] AndroidInsanity:
Screen is just OK.not bad not brilliant. Unless your a pixel peeper then you'll be happy with it.
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] Kenobz:
Good info I'd check for something running in the background both of my devices get 8 to 9 hours either that's a typo or something is seriously wrong or maybe it's the cpu/gpu. Sounds a bit fishy to me.
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] AndroidInsanity:
guys please check out my video review of the tegra note 7.

sorry my editing skills are hit and miss.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQoNAAdt6U4&list=UUUYlHn7aNxFv_OxHSsK8wpw&feature=c4-overview
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] aliaksei:
sorry typo, 4 hours that was meant to say, with it in high performance mode and nothing major in the background
[Nvidia Tegra Note 7] Kenobz:
It was decent but overall a bore you were drone like the ceiling lamp/fan was bad and even worse it become apparent you recorded a voice over once the camera showed your face in the tablet reflection which showed still lips but a voice coming out. Starting with a demonstration is great only a few can relay specs and have their viewers not fast forward what they already know. Overall as I said it was decent.