yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X Q&A] ygthb:
I will let you know, went with middle man Chinese.silk on Ebay. just awaiting code that should show this evening or tomorrow
[Moto X Q&A] cpetersen2791:
Just confirming, your trying to unlock a bootloader for an ATT (xt1058)? Also, once you get the code, do you input it via fastboot oem get_unlock_data
[Moto X Q&A] Jimmy8881:
How did you contact the seller for the IMEI information? I tried to email him but never received any reply.
[Moto X Q&A] ygthb:
Yes I am waiting on the code for the AT&T motomaker moto x

See sig XT1058
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
No.

fastboot oem unlock [Unique Code]

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Why do you think they have a method? There is no reason to think that.
[Moto X Q&A] cpetersen2791:
I meant that procedure. Thanks for the verification. I am taking the chance.
[Moto X Q&A] forlack:
Time to wait for my email and see... Thanks all. I'll keep you updated
[Moto X Q&A] Jay A whY:
I took the dive via eBay!

Sent from my XT1080
[Moto X Q&A] s_u_n:
ebay middle-man

Just curious: What happens if the Chinese guy cannot generate the code for you. Will the ebay guy refund the 2 USD?
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Come on you're worried about loosing $2 now???
[Moto X Q&A] s_u_n:
Well, actually yes if I don't get anything out of it.
[Moto X Q&A] cocchiararo:
They should give it back. In my case, they first made sure it was available, then told mgr to pay for the code, returning the $2 sounds logical

Tapatalk - Moto X XT1058
[Moto X Q&A] rayzke:
After the initial contact, a couple steps (?) after CC was entered, I clicked on the "blue guy" and a messenger window appeared within the conversation the IMEI was exchanged. After my payment cleared my gift arrived in my inbox. I used the guide on page 16 and it got me through...
[Moto X Q&A] FSRBIKER:
Has anyone done a factory restore after unlocking?
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Unlocking would factory restore automatically ;)
[Moto X Q&A] FSRBIKER:
Yes I do know that but a few people are asking on Twitter about doing a factory restore once again sometime and keeping their device unlocked.

I told them on my Dev edition this wasn't an issue and their's should behave the same way, just like Nexus devices. I think they are just looking to see if anyone has in case Moto has done something with Carrier BL locked devices that can trigger it to relock the bootloader.
[Moto X Q&A] bigv5150:
I did a complete fxz after flashing PAC ROM then installed my back up with no problem. You guys have to stop thinking Dev phone not Dev phone. There is no such thing as a Dev phone there all Dev phones if you get my point every phone has the unlock code they all behave the same. The only thing different is you void your warranty.
[Moto X Q&A] chevyrado14:
can someone pm me the details to unlock?
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
The phones will act just like any other where Moto is supplying the unlock code. Only difference in this case, the code came from a 3rd party rather than Moto.

And this likely voids the warranty, just like getting unlock code from Moto for non-dev editions does.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
What do you mean PM you the details to unlock? You buy a code for $40 then you put your device in fastboot mode, connect to your computer via USB and type:

fastboot oem unlock [Unique Code]

where Unique Code is the code you bought for $40.

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seriously, lol! some people are so damn cheap.

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so people know about this on twitter?
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Tell those people that once unlocked, there's no way to permanently re-lock their bootloader. The only way to re-lock it is to run the fastboot oem lock command, even this wouldn't permanently re-lock it, they can always unlock it again by running the fastboot oem unlock command.

There's absolutely no difference between the dev ed and non-dev ed devices, they are all the same and factory resetting is not going to re-lock it. This is because they are unlocking the official way by running the fastboot oem unlock command, it's not like they are unlocking using an exploit that might get patched like disabling write protection with motowpnomo or rooting with slapmymoto...

They are unlocking the official way, it's just that they are getting their unlock code from a 3rd party instead of getting it straight from moto...

100%
[Moto X Q&A] Summersett:
EDIT: Found the XT1080 page.
[Moto X Q&A] APeaceofStrange:
Just wondering if anyone can clarify. I went through the eBay middle man, I played the 2$ and sent an email to the PayPal address with the information needed. Do I just wait at this point or is there something else I need to do?
[Moto X Q&A] bigv5150:
Just wait he will get back to you
[Moto X Q&A] sorullo_xgrx:
Just got a response from the ebay agent I'm using Chinese. Silk his PayPal account has being temporary suspended because he has receive to many payments in the last few days. So he said is going to take a couple of days until he gets his PayPal account up and running and be able to receive payments. I ask him about Google wallet just waiting response. Though he said something about transfer to his bank of America account but I don't think that is secure thing to do.
[Moto X Q&A] mattkelly:
As long as you do it through your own bank account, it is safe. They should protect you if anything were to go wrong.
[Moto X Q&A] sorullo_xgrx:
So he just responded and he does have a Google wallet account I might be using that for the transaction most likely
[Moto X Q&A] akellar:
Lucky. I purchased and emailed him yesterday morning and haven't heard anything.
[Moto X Q&A] ballisticn8:
would he mind you giving out his contact details to others that are interested in purchasing an unlock code? If so would you mind pm'ing me his information, I have paypal and google wallet and if this is as legit as it sounds I'd be up for purchasing an unlock code for my X, then I'd have the best of both worlds. Motomaker customization and an unlocked bootloader. :good:
[Moto X Q&A] sorullo_xgrx:
He responded trough eBay messaging
[Moto X Q&A] mattkelly:
I've been emailing him a bit this morning. He said he's been really busy with our requests, as it has really blown up in the last few days. It would probably go a lot smoother, had PayPal not inquired about his uptick in transfers. Hopefully he can resolve his issue with them quickly so it stops slowing him down.
[Moto X Q&A] bigv5150:
If I were him I would be pissed why would PayPal shut him down from making money and 2 hucks at that its not a lot. I don't understand the issue. They have received no complaints.
[Moto X Q&A] dhoppy:
It's not just two bucks that set off the Paypal fraud monitoring, it is also the $42 or whatever. Wish I had known about the google wallet thing, my bank charges $25 for an outgoing wire.
[Moto X Q&A] akellar:
The middleman is only making the $2 charge. The other is being paid to the seller of the code.
[Moto X Q&A] forlack:
That was fast! Unlocked!
[Moto X Q&A] meber:
no, they are both paid to the middleman. If we could pay the seller directly we wouldn't need a middleman. So the money goes through the middleman regardless setting off the red flag to paypal.

The guy collects the $2. Then you message him the link on taobao. He then contacts the seller and calculates the amount. The middleman asks for the amount + paypal fees and your IMEI number. Two days later he messages you the unlock code.
[Moto X Q&A] akellar:
I'm aware of how the process works. He MAKES $2. The other amount you pay is passed onto the seller of the code as I stated. Regardless this is a dumb argument.
[Moto X Q&A] contesauce:
I'm unsure if it's different for the xt1060 but I went straight through the Chinese site, paid two bucks via my visa and talked to the unlocker directly.

I'm inpatient though and wouldn't like waiting for PayPal to clear one then the other.
[Moto X Q&A] meber:
It is not about how much he makes that sets off the red flag. It is the amount of money that is flowing through the account. If you got that portion initially you would not have phrased that question the way you did.
[Moto X Q&A] akellar:
What question did I ask? My statement had nothing to do with paypal or why they are questioning him. I was pointing out to the person I quoted that the middleman wasn't making more than $2. Perhaps reading the full conversation would help. Good day, sir.
[Moto X Q&A] cocchiararo:
it is not a dumb argument at all...

The middleman has 2 paypal accounts, one where he KEEPS his money, and another where he gets the money to then send it to the code seller.

If any of his accounts gets locked, no more middleman...

It is irrelevant if he were to keep the rest of the money or not, it PASSES through paypal, and paypal noticed and thought something was not right.
[Moto X Q&A] akellar:
You guys are having a completely different conversation than the one I was. I'm done here.
[Moto X Q&A] cocchiararo:
i believe that you you had to read more then.
[Moto X Q&A] ygthb:
ATT, XT1058, fully unlocked. it works
[Moto X Q&A] SYNSYNACKACK:
I'd recommend RSD back to 4.2.2 or 4.4, I encountered weird issues when I did a factory reset via phone option.

(I did factory reset first, then unlocked and still had the weird issues)

Wait til you get to 4.4.2, then load recovery and root.

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Just wanted to note that China is 12hours ahead, at least for me in the US. I went directly thru the Chinese site, I emailed the guy the next morning to confirm receipt of payment. He responded. At that point, I should've given him my IMEI, because when he emailed me back requesting it, I was asleep due to time difference.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Be careful guys.

In case anyone here doesn't already know......

If you do manage to flash a previous android version.....then take an ota .....you will more than likely then have a handsome paperweight.

;)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X Q&A] trimax84:
But not with an unlocked bootloader, right? Couldn't you just RSD some sbf
[Moto X Q&A] Steve-x:
NO!!!! Locked or unlocked bootloader makes no difference, you will end up with a paperweight.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
this is correct. The OTA will fail, but not brick.

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this is not true. The OTA will fail but not brick if you have an unlocked bootloader and are running an earlier version of the system.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Very dangerous advice. ;)

Multiple people have bricked doing this already. Unlocked phones. There's threads of brick victims going from 4.4.2 to previous versions, then taking ota. Russian roulette is the game.

But hey, people have the right to do whatever they want with their phones....so go nuts. :)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X Q&A] SYNSYNACKACK:
How So? I factory reset via Backup and Reset (Factory Data Reset) Unlocked Bootloader.

I then RSD back to 4.2.2 stock, and took both 4.4 and 4.4.2 OTA's

(Then installed TWRP and root)
[Moto X Q&A] :
Delete

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....

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You guys are hopeless. LOL

Have at it....downgrade. make sure your fingers are crossed when you ota. If you do brick, you won't be the firsts. :)

If you have money to burn.....then ignore the warnings. You might get lucky. Maybe. :)

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
describe exactly the situation you are talking about where people are bricking. I see lots of people manually flashing bricking. I am not talking about manually flashing. I am talking about taking an OTA. 2 different scenarios.
[Moto X Q&A] ygthb:
where do I Download dev edition roms? for GSM US, ATT
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
What do you start out with 4.4? Then factory reset 4.4? then RSD back to 4.2.2?
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
It will void the warranty if u use the code to unlock ur phone even if they don't know that you have the code because they would know that it has been unlocked when they check it if u try to claim the warranty...
[Moto X Q&A] jjbadd385:
Hey, I'm thinking of purchasing a Moto X from a small carrier called Alltel here in the SouthEast US... I have a link, but what I want to know is if this variant can be unlocked, and how can I tell which one this is? I have Googled repeatedly but can't find my answer, maybe y'all can help..here is the link. http://estore.alltelwireless.com/cell-phones/productdetail.htm?prId=42824
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Based on the moto page -> https://motorola-global-portal.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/87215 Alltel is not listed, so I would think you can't unlock its bootloader.
[Moto X Q&A] jjbadd385:
I actually found out that you can't, so I opted for a lesser device, the HTC Desire 601, which can be rooted/s-off, & it's actually much better than I expected, very fast & snappy right outta the box..but thanks for the help
[Moto X Q&A] crkeith65:
That list is not all inclusive. I use C Spire a small regional company and my Moto X was able to be unlocked.
[Moto X Q&A] flacco40:
Really?

Lol to this... you really gonna tell us how good that crap is on our Moto X website??? lolol dude we have Moto X youre not gonna convince us about your inferior phone, we don't wanna hear that crap.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
When u run the command to get the unlock data and paste it into the Moto website, it would yell u if it's unlockable or not...
[Moto X Q&A] anotherfiz:
Has anyone comfirm/denied the chinese code? I would pay 40$ for unlockable bootloader.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Not that I've seen yet. If you try, I suggest getting a Visa gift card or something disposable like that to use.. just in case...
[Moto X Q&A] anotherfiz:
I have a good friend who moved to china like 12 years ago. I sent him the website, waiting to hear back from him on more details. I might be able to get him to facilitate safe payment for me as well if it looks legit. Will update.
[Moto X Q&A] anotherfiz:
I am pretty sure im going to go through with this if i get the info I need from my friend. Its worth a shot, the IMEI should just be needed to identify the carrier variant, it makes sense that he would need this.

Edit - Question: What happens when I unlock the bootloader? Should i flash back to stock 4.2.2 (no big deal) before i do this?
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
While it doesn't matter what rom version you are using when you unlock your bootloader, keep in mind, the process of using the code to unlock your bootloader wipes your phone and its data. So make sure you copy anything (pix, videos, etc) off your phone before you proceed or it will be lost. And you'll need to reload your apps, setup your accounts, etc.
[Moto X Q&A] anotherfiz:
Not worried about ROM, worried about Recovery. Currently am running safestrap recovery. Should i flash back to stock recovery first?
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Never dealt with safe strap, so I don't want to comment.
[Moto X Q&A] mschumacher69:
Once (and if) you unlock ur bootloader, i would flash back to 100% stock and then flash twrp and supersu to root...
[Moto X Q&A] crkeith65:
I simply went through the process on the unlock page. It was not all cut and dried so to speak. When I first got the phone I entered my unlock info on the site and stopped just before I downloaded my unlock key because I wasn't sure at the time. Two weeks later I decided to go through with it but this time my request was denied time after time. I contacted tech support. Level 1 and level 2 were clueless. My best advice was to go to the developer's forum. I tried again the next day and this time was a success. I received the unlock key and I unlocked the bootloader.
[Moto X Q&A] cocchiararo:
so tempted to buy the ATT code

Not i would need to decipher that site :P

EDIT:

Well, i am kinda busted... they ask for a celphone number, and they send you an sms.

Argentina is not one of the supported countries, so i don't know how to even try :(

EDIT: researching on virtual numbers XD
[Moto X Q&A] xXKebobXx:
I have account on TaoBao and am going to try and buy it, the problem is you need to have a chinese bank account to get any money to buy anything on the site. If anyone has a chinese bank account here that could help me out I can pay you from paypal for the cost of the item.
[Moto X Q&A] cocchiararo:
Freaking site does not allow to pay in any other of the normal means? :-\

Tapatalk - Moto X XT1058
[Moto X Q&A] xXKebobXx:
Yep it only allows chinese payments
[Moto X Q&A] niodo:
How safe is it to just use my actual credit card on the site? My virtual credit card keeps getting declined and I don't want to wait for this middle man thing to clear up because it's been 2 days already and I've only heard form him once. Anyone have any experience doing this?
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
motorola will give you factory image for 4.4

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Alipay is legit. The problem is getting Alipay to work for you using a US credit card. It seems to be hit or miss. And if your bank puts a fraud hold on it, it won't go through without calling the bank. Then Alipay may not let it go through once it has been declined once.
[Moto X Q&A] ygthb:
what about a non att (crapware) 4.4.2? like a generic GSM 4.4.2?
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
I only saw the factory images for 4.4 on motorola's website. But you can get the sbf firmware of 4.4.2.
[Moto X Q&A] SYNSYNACKACK:
Sorry, when I posted my comment, there wasn't a mention of downgrading from 4.4.2

I would have to agree, do not downgrade from 4.4.2, but return to stock.
[Moto X Q&A] johnnywayne28:
Now I know how a teenage girl feels at a Justin Beeber concert.
[Moto X Q&A] niodo:
Okay I see, does anyone know a better way to get this to work without going through the middle man on ebay? I feel like by the time this guy gets his stuff together this opportunity is going to be gone
[Moto X Q&A] SYNSYNACKACK:
Yes, I was rooted on 4.4, I had two weird issues where home and settings button didn't work after factory reset and unlock.

I RSD back to 4.2.2 and took both OTA's

However, if someone is already on 4.4.2, I would advise to download (if available) that stock image.
[Moto X Q&A] dhoppy:
This is what happened to me. My bank declined and so I called and had them allow it. Then the day after I though I had successfully made a payment, I got a message from alipay saying my payment was refunded.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
yeah, I don't know why there is all of this advice that you will brick. The OTA will fail but not brick if you aren't stock.

Manually flashing, especially the bootloader and partition table, that is where you have to worry about bricking.
[Moto X Q&A] SYNSYNACKACK:
What I did was install Google Translate extension on Chrome and then used the Chinese site.

It's a little rough to navigate, but if you take your time, shouldn't be much hassle.
[Moto X Q&A] :
This is the whole point. Yes....there may be possible safe ways to downgrade and be fine in the future ....but there are terrible ways also that lead to bricks.

Are you going to sit with them night and day and make sure they don't take the wrong path? ;)

All I said was its dangerous advice. And its Russian roulette. And it is. Fact.

Anyway....anyone that wants to educate themselves on the xda Moto x history of good and bad downgrade stories....here. make some popcorn and read some of these. :)

http://www.google.ca/search?q=brick...xdaforums.com&hl=en-CA&source=android-browser

Sent from my N5 cell phone telephone....
[Moto X Q&A] drewwegand:
How did you get the number verification to work to create an toabao account?
[Moto X Q&A] ThaSik1:
Whenever you get to the payment portion and it transfers you to Alipay, look up towards the top left of the page and there will be a dropdown option to change from China to "Overseas" and that will allow you to pay with a Credit/Debit card. It's easy to overlook but it's definitely there! Hope it helps!
[Moto X Q&A] SYNSYNACKACK:
7 Symbols down, US country code starts with +1

Just enter cell number, press gray box beside it.

You receive txt msg, long string of characters, its the last 5-6 digits. Enter that in the third box.

Next screen i believe is where you enter your password and email address twice.

As someone just mentioned, select the Overseas option.

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I was able to use my Bank of America ShopSafe (virtual card) without issue. Charge went right thru within minutes.

I believe Discover is discontinued theirs. Wouldn't feel comfortable giving out the actual card number.
[Moto X Q&A] drewwegand:
I am struggling through the Alipay fields now nothing will translate on Chrome.
[Moto X Q&A] blackhand1001:
If you can get into the bootloader you are not bricked. Especially if your bootloader is unlocked.
[Moto X Q&A] tdiman:
I just gave it my US number and it worked. There's a box where you drop down and select the country. The google translate chrome extension works better than the built in translation of chrome, which isn't obvious at first.

I also generated a 1 time use visa credit card number with a credit limit of a little more than the cost... reduces the risk quite a bit, and I also figured that the one time use code would have a lesser chance of getting rejected. It worked.
[Moto X Q&A] pyro6128:
I had it sent to my Google voice number since i didn't want to use my real number
[Moto X Q&A] drewwegand:
anyone want to walk me through a few of these Alipay fields. for some reason chrome puts it into the mobie version and it doesn't translate the fields
[Moto X Q&A] contesauce:
Going to go ahead and say make sure your chrome is set to desktop agent. I did mine on Chrome with no issues.
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
Overseas Alipay
[Moto X Q&A] contesauce:
Thanks nightthyme I can't really point out too much since I'm not at the house
[Moto X Q&A] NightThyme:
International Credit Card Fee
[Moto X Q&A] brianmagicr:
Just went through the process.fingers crossed this works.
[Moto X Q&A] trimax84:
I went through the website directly to purchase without using a middleman. This is how I did it (modified and a expanded upon dmiramon instructions on page 16)

1. Went to the Verizon Bootloader Unlock China site: http://item.taobao.com/item.htm?spm=a230r.1.14.61.r70vRg&id=37333625825

2. Enable Google Translate (I'm using Chrome)

3. Click on the orange button mid-way down the page (mouse-over tooltip reads: "Click this button to confirm the purchase")

4. The next page basically asks for your phone number and will send you a text message with a confirmation code. I scrolled down within the first drop-down box until the country code changed to "+1" for USA

5. Enter phone number, click the button, check your text message

6. Enter the code (numbers in the middle of a bunch of Chinese letters in the text message); click the box next to that

7. Sign up for a TaoBao account (left-hand side; looks like the right was for current members to log in - I did not yet have an account). There should be an Overseas option in here which some seem to be missing

8. I included my IMEI number in the Comments to Seller box, though you can send it to the seller later

9. Payment information - I used a virtual credit card number (Citi bank) with a fixed dollar limit and expiration date (TaoBao accepts Visa and Mastercard)

10. A successful payment leads to the confirmation page

(I used babelxl.com to translate some of these random things that Google Translate wouldn't)

That's it. Done.

I then clicked on the bouncing blue smiley face thing (looks like something from bomberman on Nintendo) to chat with the seller. He seemed to understand and speak English quite well. He told me 48 hours until I'll have my code.

dmiramon had recommended using Skype to communicate with the seller and send the IMEI, that should work too.

Here's hoping, I will post back here with the results, whether positive or negative
[Moto X Q&A] Summersett:
Edited to try to keep the noise down. Unlock confirmed.