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[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thanks for the constant assumptions. I've had other phones, but just talking Samsung, I've had the S3, Note 2, S4, Note 3 and S5.

The S4 was a joke. The Note 3 was great but it became a little too big for me. So now I'm on the S5 which I feel is better than the S4, more like the Note 3 and at the perfect size for me.

If you knew my history, I will probably also get the Note 4, S6, M9, Moto X+1, etc. So I'm not trying to justify anything. When I'm over a phone, I go on to the next one. You are making it seem like I'm living with regret or something lol. Which I'm most definitely not.

Have fun with your next phone. After all, it's just a phone. :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Could care less about your history as you're talking out of your rear end if you think the S4 was a joke. Coming from an S3, the S4 was an improvement just about every single area... screen, battery life, memory (with apps not constantly being killed), and the list goes on. The S4 to an S5 is the joke of the century. Doesn't matter if you admit it, you wouldn't be making such an effort to make yourself feel better in an F Series discussion thread if it wasn't.

:thumbup:
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
If you could care less about my history, then that means you care to some level lol.

Anyhow, the S4 was a major lagfest and the screen sucked imo. Was it better than the S3 screen? Heck yes, but it is too dull and has a bad green/blue tint on whites.

The Note 3 was the best phone next to the S3 imo. And the S5 is more like the Note 3 imo.

And once again, I don't care and it doesn't bother me. I had every single flagship last year and I'm on pace to do that again this year. If you think a metal S5 with a gimmick qhd screen is making me jealous, then you are sadly mistaken.

And on that note, I'm done with you. Not worth my time or wasting anybody elses. We agree to disagree and that's that.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I forgot you used the Snapdragon S4, I have zero lag whatsoever on my Exynos with Perseus. Compared to my Exynos S3, no comparison. In fact, on my coworker's S5, those micro-stutters still exist, cracks me up.

Sure you're gone, we await your next, sad "boy am I glad I got an S5" post. :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
http://www.hotels.com/

Get a room you two.
[Galaxy S 5 General] algadeed:
yeah, I always need the latest and greatest , thats me :cowboy:
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
I am starting to doubt all these rumours now. It's more than 3 months already and still no concrete news. Maybe just media BS.
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
It's gotten to the point where the Note 4 is so close that I couldn't care less what the S5 "Prime" turns out to be. It's simply too little too late at this point.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Some new details about Alpha today.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I said I wouldn't come back here, but I have to throw a big "I told you so" out there. I won't engage in any banter, but I just had to throw that out there after the new leaks today. Lol.

Bring on the Note 4!! :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Should've kept to your initial word, because you don't know what you're talking about.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Care to explain?
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
A man is only as good as his word, the urge to justify his ****ty purchase was just too great. :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Hellscythe:
Reminds me of the older entry level LG devices lol.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
So you would rather have a 4.7" screen and no micro sd card slot? Have at it buddy lol.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Did I say that? You can't even stay on point.

I'll judge the device when it's officially against what I have now (shocking I know, given that's the same reason I chose not to upgrade to the silly S5). If it's junk, I'll wait for the S6, which is something I have said a million times already. Your ability to fathom this point is disappointing to say the least.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
The S6 should be a beast for sure. You aren't interested in the Note 4? Too big?
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I've never been a fan of the Note series, simply because I do use my device to make calls and it's just a tad too big for the front pockets. But, with that said, I am considering the Note 4 this time around simply because because Andre may be developing Perseus for it. The things he was able to do with the crippled S4 Exynos alone leads me to believe the 5433 will be a beast in the right hands.

Is the Note 4 going to be Snapdragon / Exynos split regionally like everything else as of late? Haven't been keeping up with it...
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Ah, I see. Yes, from what I know, it will be another Snapdragon/Exynos split.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I guess I'll need to either get another one of those silly BT headsets (and look like I'm talking to myself), or just have earbuds in my ears 24/7. The latter seems to work for all people I see on the subways when I'm overseas in Asia on business, nothing like seeing tiny little Asian girls palming massive Note / phablets everywhere. :good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Lol.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
More leak info.

http://pulse.me/s/1SnWwt
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Will be skipping this device for sure with a 720P screen. I'm all about early adopting / paying the early adopter's fee... that is, if it's truly an advancement. Going back to a 720P screen would be an eyesore...
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I totally agree man. What a ridiculous decision to go back to 720p if it's true.

I'm one of the few who isn't on the qhd bandwagon on anything 5.5" or under after spending time with the G3, but going to 720p will be noticeable.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
QHD for me isn't a must have, meaning it's not a deal breaker with or without it. Bare minimum for a ~5" device at this point is 1080p, painful when I have to do maintenance on my old S3...
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
Do I need QHD ? No would I like it? Yes

Just like the G3 Cat 6 the more important thing is the cpu and of course being future proof which is why the sd 805 makes a huge difference.

Add to that at least 3 Gig RAM and the device should blast through everything ( I don't play games on my phone).

The good thing is Samsung now has competition and if they don't step up LG will takeover the highend market.

But I have agree the S5 just like most other flagships have been a huge disappointment this year. So Samsung has to hit a homerun with the prime

Sent from my BlackBerry
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Citation needed. LG is nowhere even near to taking the high-end market. I would like to see one study that says otherwise.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Well, based on all the information that we have, they haven't hit a homerun. Unless you are saying there is even another phone that is being released on top of this?

Even if this phone has the rumored 805 and 3gb of ram, I don't see a 4.7" screen at 720p being a homerun.

What it seems like is that they made this phone to directly compete with the iPhone 6 and only the iPhone 6. People who are already invested in android with the latest flagships most likely won't even give this phone a second look.

Also, why would you like QHD out of curiosity? Have you seen the G3? Even at that size screen it is almost completely unnoticeable. I can only see it semi-making sense on a tablet sized screen. Sounds like you have fallen for the marketing hype lol. When I put my S5 next to the G3, I can't tell the difference at all.

All it does is add worse performance and battery life with no visual gain. The cons heavily outweigh the pros.
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
I'm basing this simply on the information we are having about that LTE + ? model. It features QHD, more RAM and the SD 805 so even if it's not the prime the specs sound a lot like a "prime" version.

As for the 720p 4,7 " variant I would have to agree, this would not be a homerun and if the phones purprose is to compete with the IP 6 well then no interest at all.

Like I said I really don't need QHD but I'm buying phones to be somewhat future proof. My personal believe is that the G 3 screen will come in extremely handy when it comes down to reading PDFs or scrolling through heavy text sites (this site, hfboards..). But I get what you are saying full HD is also good enough for me, cpu, gpu and especially saturation, crispness of colors are way more important.

Personally I also think the Blackberry Passport has an interesting 1440 x 1440 factor but it doesn't feature a removable battery, nor the BB toolbelt so that's a no go.

As for LG taking over the highend market, well the LTE Cat.6 features a SD 805, 3 Gig of Ram, QHD and all the former must-have samsung features (micro SD slot, removable battery). To me that sound's like tough competition.

btw. I don't think 64 bit app technology will take over too soon it's just nice to know that your phone is capable of running such apps. I'm not one to update every 2 years my phones are built to last and satisfiy my more serious business needs.

long story very short: QHD is far from being a must but I won't ***** about it if the phone offers it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I frankly would have to question WTF Samsung is thinking with a 720P "Premium" device at this point. You delay your launch to hope to get some iPhone6 rollovers, but with a 720P display? Doesn't even make any damn sense.

Oh well, as consumers, we speak with our pocketbooks... the Note 4 or S6 it is.
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
It's just a rumor and I really hope for their own sake one that doesn't become true. The more I think about maybe just maybe the Alpha is their reply to the Z1 compact ?
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Unfortunately, it's more than just a rumor. We will get the official announcement on August 4th.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
With all due respect, Z1 Compact doesn't need any answer from Samsung. It didn't sell enough to make Samsung take notice.

It's obvious really; 4.7 inch iPhone is on horizon. Don't expect Note to be the competition for new iPhone. This one will be (irrespective of the fact that it's only a 720p screen).

Not that I complain about, more interested in battery. And Tab 10.5 S-esque RGB AMOLED display will be decent enough.
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
If that's their goal then I really don't understand the somewhat lacking specs, especially the screen. I get it QHD wouldn't be possible but Full HD is possible on a 4,7 inch screen which is still far from small.

Samsung is pushing out phones like crazy their lineup is unreal now but quantity doesn't equal quality. Looking at this phone it seems to be a midrange smartphone built to run as fast as possible.

Personally I'm disappointed was hoping the new phone would finally get the SD 805 and QHD guess they are saving it for the N4
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Here's a random idea - HD resolution saves on battery, helps to phone phone thinner.

I think Note 4 in most places will get Exynos as rumoured, probably US/Japan are only places to get 805 version.

This is a odd phone from Samsung in many ways. Bit of metal, less resolution, high end SOC, no microSD, 32GB storage. Everything seems different from usual Samsung approach.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sohebq:
With sammy getting lowest ever earnings turnout in 2 years, they might have held back the idea of prime s5

Sent from Galaxy Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy S 5 General] nebsif:
I do want a prime S5.

I never cared about plastics, but uhh S5 is damn ugly, its like a chinese clone of.. itself. Not to mention the water proofing is half assed to increase profits (silly flap at bottom and larger bezel for insulation instead of coating like on Sharp aquos phones), and 2 gigs of ram, with all their bloat?

As a S3 and note 10.1 2014 owner eager to upgrade, but not stupid enough to go for product with more advertising budget than R&D, I hope they understood the message (decline in sales, LG catching up) and that their answer to the competition will be the prime S5 (not the 720p one, but this one).

If only LG used AMOLED displays... ehh, why cant we have nice things ;(
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Allegedly 5430 is coming!

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/08/13...-g901f-galaxy-alpha-sm-g850f-get-benchmarked/
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] Is 5430 on 20nm, or still on 28nm process??
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
It should be 20nm, but waiting on Samsung's confirmation.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
These GPU numbers are so different compared to 5422/5420.

What has changed?

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_alpha-review-1114p3.php
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Just a bit higher clocks (600 vs 533) and newer drivers, that's all. The Manhattan score is a bit higher but the T-Rex score is basically just the discrepancy in frequency.
[Galaxy S 5 General] SAVVAS.:
SamsungExynos Twitter account says that Exynos 5430 is built on Samsung’s 20nm process :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Here you go, official now.

http://www.samsung.com/global/business/semiconductor/minisite/Exynos/w/solution.html#?v=octa_5430

20nm HKMG process, includes H.265(HEVC) decoder and 17GB/s memory bandwidth. So, your predictions were right on both counts.. :good:
[Galaxy S 5 General] lilmoe2002:
Quick question. Do you believe TSV is used here?
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
It's not.
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
http://www.chip.de/news/Samsung-Galaxy-S5-LTE-A-Europa-Version-naht_70459525.html

For the non German users the article basically confirms that the s5 prime will be coming to Europe, although they are speculating it might only have a full HD screen.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Why the media use the name 'Prime' ?? It's just an upgraded SOC. Everything else is same. And IIRC, the official name also doesn't say 'Prime' anywhere.
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
It has more ram, better LTE and if it's the Korean version the phone will feature a QHD display.

I think people are naming it the prime because it is better in every aspect
[Galaxy S 5 General] Lodix:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION] I heard you might be getting Note 4. Do you think it will come with a 64 bits exynos ? Because Mali T628 is not good enough for move a 2k display smoothly.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
It won't. The 5433 is same as 5430 but with a T760 and higher clocks.

Yes it looks like I'm getting a Note 4.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Lodix:
It seems so, but I thought like they alredy have 20nm process they will jump to Cortex A5X. Hope now they will release just one version with Exynos+LTE.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
I think once they use A5x/ARMv8, it would be totally new series like Exynos 6. I think after that they are moving for custom designs.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sohebq:
Samsung Alpha is how S and Note series should have been. Poor samsung.

Sent from Galaxy Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
You still haven't explained. Please do.
[Galaxy S 5 General] lilmoe2002:
720p is perfectly fine on a 4.7" or lower. I believe It's actually better for performance and battery life. I have an S4, and I learned my lesson, so I wont be upgrading to phone unless its SoC can comfortably play games at 60FPS and easily render content without ANY noticeable lag. I'm sure the new 5430 should be much more efficient and the battery life would be decent on the Alpha since it only has 720p, but I still would have preferred having a larger battery and a micro SD card slot. Too bad, because I believe 4.7" is the sweet spot. I also wish it wasn't as squared off as it is, because I believe the S4 had the best shape/corners/bezels of any Galaxy S, I hope the GS6 goes back to that design plus the metal trim and a better looking rubber/plastic back cover.

If the GS6 gets a QHD screen, I wont upgrade unless it has Cortex A57/ARMv8, Mali T760 or better at 200Gflops, DDR4 RAM with 24GB/s of memory bandwidth, and a 3000mah battery. Any less than that and the SoC's efficiency won't be as optimum as it should. I may be going too far, but QHD needs monster specs to equal the efficiency of the 5430 running 720p, because it has 4x the number of pixels.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
No idea what you're talking about, my games play just fine on my 9500. Even with beautiful and graphics intensive DC Comics game Injustice, it's buttery smooth. Or, are you talking about the Snapdragon stutter fest variant?
[Galaxy S 5 General] lilmoe2002:
I have the i9500 too. I don't like Snapdragon, nor do I think it's better than Exynos. It's not only about "smooth" gaming (30+ FPS), but how long can you play games and browse the web on a single charge? My battery life drops really fast when it starts these kind of tasks. It also gets really hot and starts to stutter after a while. It's not "slow", but I believe it was too early for 1080p at the time. The phone would have been completely different if it was only 720p (better experience overall), much faster and better battery life. The GS5 is faster and has a little better battery life, but it doesn't run tasks as effortlessly as I'd like it to either (tried one for a week). The Note 3 has a more efficient screen and a faster processor compared to the Note 2, but battery life on both are comparable because it has to push more pixels and do more work.

I'm sure everyone here loves higher specs everywhere, but I don't believe it's always a good thing. Exynos is getting better and faster, but it has to do much more work. Galaxy Alpha has the 5430 (almost same performance as 5422 in GS5) with only 1860mah and still gets 11 hours video playback battery life. True, it's built on a 20nm process and has dedicated codec/audio blocks, but do you think battery life would be the same if it was 1080 or 1440p? I don't think so.

I believe Exynos 5430 for 720p and 5433 for 1080p is PERFECT. Samsung can keep the Note 4 at 1080p but instead it can have a semi-RGB stripe panel (like they did with Note 2) and it will look much better than current Note 3. No need for QHD. But sadly, Samsung has to compete with others too and people think that higher is always better.... This is just my opinion. I want a phone that doesn't get hot and doesn't sweat no matter what I do with it! Maybe my standard for performance is too high... :)
[Galaxy S 5 General] Lodix:
Totally agree.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rulala:
[MENTION=4167023]AndreiLux[/MENTION]

so Alpha is the F ? is it sure ? There is no F Series ?

I expect F Because screen size is about 5.3 inch.

note 4 's 5.7 inch is a little bigger for me.
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
All they need to do is release the Koran version.this thing is an unreal beast

I mean LG had the cat 6 so Samsung should release their bad boy in Europe. Not watered down version.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I actually appreciate this detailed feedback. But honestly, your user experience is a bit different than mine:

1) Yes, my battery doesn't last more than 2 hours when going on a tear playing Injustice. But again, this is why I have 3 spare batteries at all times, and the removable battery is more important to me than anything else. Frankly, if the Alpha / Prime / whatever-the-hell-it's-called-today doesn't have a removable battery, deal breaker for me.

2) I do get stutters when I first start the game, but I think that's just the textures caching or something. Because unlike your experience, the LONGER I play the game, the smoother it gets. Frankly, after the first few minutes of game play / matches, it doesn't stutter at all.

3) And yes, the device gets a bit warm, especially when I'm overclocked to 1.7GHz / 600MHz (CPU / GPU). But, none of it's uncomfortable, and it's been rock solid / no crashes.

Now, when NOT playing an extremely graphics intensive 3D game, the phone's battery performs very nicely even with heavy web browsing, IBM Notes Traveler push E-mails, etc. Even when I watch downloaded 1080P movies during overseas business trips (14+ hrs sometimes), the battery holds up very well. (As reference, I only had to swap the battery one time during my last trip to HK in early July.)

And, given the S3 720P screen hurts my head to look at now when I've been using the S4 (still have to maintain the gf's S3), I absolutely disagree that the S4 isn't ready for 1080P. 1080P works flawlessly for me on the S4, and it's a huge step up from 720P when you put the screens side by side. I mean, this isn't even a discussion point really.
[Galaxy S 5 General] lilmoe2002:
I'm glad you're enjoying your device. I am too, but not nearly as much as I would like. Even the GS5 isn't at the point where things are "perfect" IMHO. I want a removable battery, but that doesn't mean it's OK to compromise battery life just because the option is there.

But first, lets get this out of the way; The GS3's pentile arrangement was just bad IMHO. Diamond pentile is much more superior as far as pentile arrangement goes .

Again, I never said the SoC wasn't "capable" of pushing and rendering all the pixels, nor that the device was "slow" by any means. My point is that the SoC wasn't ready to do all of that at its maximum efficiency (IE: doing all the work without getting too warm and without wasting too much battery life). These SoCs (5410/542x) are more efficient than previous ones (4412 etc), but that's only at similar workloads of devices like the S3 and Note 2. But when these SoCs are maxed out, they're significantly less efficient, hot, and battery consuming. It's only now that we can get the same kind of efficiency running 1080 because of the move to 20nm (they can boost clocks, GPU, and bandwidth to make 1080p run as fast and as efficient as 28nm would on 720p). Do you see the pattern I'm trying to get at? Samsung doubled down on the Galaxy Alpha with a 20nm chip (without increasing clock speeds) AND a 4.7" 720p resolution, allowing a

lousy

1860mah to last 11.5 hours in video playback! That's the kind of efficiency I'd love to see. If the Alpha was coupled with a 2200-2400mah battery you'd get yourself a winner in performance,and battery life that can easily best current large devices like the Note 3 (in a balanced workload, since video playback isn't the entire story of battery life).

I know everyone wants the highest resolution screen possible. But for me, efficiency is KING. I seriously hope the GS6 gets a next generation ARMv8 Exynos chip AND remains at 1080p. Samsung made a huge improvement in the GS5's 1080p screen over the GS4's just by increasing brightness and improving color accuracy, and it isn't any less attractive than the one on the GS5 LTE-A by any means. Samsung can take that same 1080p screen to the next level by moving from a diamond pentile arrangement to an RGB stripe panel similar to the arrangement in the Note 2 but with higher density. It will look much sharper while maintaining the brightness and color accuracy. There's seriously no need to go QHD, especially when we're already at 440PPI.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I don't care about the highest resolution screen possible. But once your eyes get use to a higher resolution screen, there is no going back.

As for your argument, it simply doesn't work. You not only want an SoC to be powerful enough to drive the hardware, you want it to drive everything at 50% so that you can get ridiculous battery life out of it. Sorry, but that's not how technology works.

Technology will always push limits, if the current engine can drive the peripherals, that's what's going to happen. They're not going to throttle something like screen or performance so that a niche market of folks prefer to get a few more hours of battery life when swapping batteries is even something they market as a feature.

Frankly, if I'm throwing extremely demanding 3D games at a damn phone, I don't expect the battery life to last forever. This is why I expect my phone to have power on the go, which means I carry a few extra batteries on stupidly long flights. Otherwise, my 1080P device easily hits 4-5 hours of heavy usage, which is more than adequate for a modern smartphone.