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[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
I'm aware he wasn't fired, he was given a different role, but you'd think the aim of replacing him was to get fresh ideas on design. Obviously they've got a team of designers. Just feel its the department the Galaxy series has lacked in for a while now. Its all personal opinion.
[Galaxy S 5 General] ixon2001:
Bringing this S5 prime or whatever they call it is a good thing it means the S5 will plummet in price which is great for those that decided to wait, as the S5 that out now not exactly crap is it.

I personally don't want a metal phone, they scratch to easily I've already seen a couple of M8's that are not a month old with terrible scratches just by being put on a table or desk or whatnot without a case.
[Galaxy S 5 General] msavic6:
This is terrible for current owners of the S5 as the resale value will drop considerably. This is the main reason I don't want the Prime to release, the S5 is a great phone and frankly doesn't need a metal build nor QHD screen.

All the S5 Prime does is make it more expensive for me to upgrade to the Note 4 later on.
[Galaxy S 5 General] ixon2001:
Yeah that is true as resale value on the S range isn't all that great to begin with.

I personally learnt my lesson to sit & wait and not buy something that just been released.

I did this with the Note 3 which i bought at Christmas for just over £400 new instead of the £600+ that was being asked for it on launch.

The S5 is already started to drop in price in the UK, couple of more months it easily be had for under £500, if the prime does get a worldwide release then it drop to under £400 before Christmas if not sooner, which will make it a bargain for those that waited, but not so for those that bought it on release, plus you've also got the LG G3 which will launch at around £500, which will also bring the price of the S5 down, so it not looking to good for those that splashed £550+ on one.
[Galaxy S 5 General] justanotherasian:
Like they say, patience save lives... and a heck load of money!
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
That won't happen so soon in a company like Samsung which is driven by corporate dynamics (you will need to show that change in design is profitable and will make more money). Only way the design will change dramatically so fast is when CEO calls the designers for a mid-night meeting.

There was a similar precedent in past when the CEO Lee Kun Hee asked everyone to Change everything but your wife and kids.

Unless something like this happens, the design won't change so suddenly.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Airax:
FYI Samsung sets pricing quaterly.

Any prices changes you see on SIM Free hands is down to a combination of how much margin the retailer can make and how much supply there is for the disti to try make as much as possible from selling to retailers. Then throw in grey imports from the EU (where stock is cheaper).

I doubt the S5 will hit under £400 by Xmas SIM Free in the UK from a reputable source (let's skip reburished or HK stock).

Every year there are rumours of a "premium galaxy" device and every year nothing happens. Don't take all leaks as gospel. The S5 Prime may exist but doesn't mean Samsung will release it. Some companies can get quite far towards releasing a device and then pull it.

Did you know there was a Sony Ericsson Xperia Play 2? Or Nokia were on the cusp of releasing an ebook reader that got as far as having POS printed in Waterstones before it was pulled?
[Galaxy S 5 General] ixon2001:
Then if that the case how did i manage to buy a Note 3, 3 months after released that was a brand new UK simfree BTU phone for £200 less than when it was released?

The same will happen with the S5 it price will be around the £400 mark come xmas.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Airax:
As some people have suggested waiting to buy a phone for your needs now and not wait for something better because you'll always be waiting.

Look at it like this. The S5 is now 2 months old. If an S5 Prime is released to buy in July the S5 will 4/5 months into its life. If you buy a S5 Prime you'll be 7-8 months away from the S6 which I'd guess would be better.

Bottom line is you never can win.

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Because the initial price was too high. No mystery. Everyone wants to make money so early adopters pay more.
[Galaxy S 5 General] turt:
The S5 initial price is also too high so its price will drop fast, Prime or not...

I have yet to see one in the hands of someone, when the S4 was all over the place on day 1.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
This is exactly how I think about phone purchases lately. Life is too short and technology moves too fast. I buy the phone I like at the moment and enjoy the heck out of it.

Like you said, even if this Prime phone comes out in the next couple months, I would have already enjoyed my S5 for 4-5 months. That is 4-5 months that I could have been on an inferior phone.

Just buy what you want now and enjoy it!
[Galaxy S 5 General] eyecon82:
That's where the problem lies

exactly

fake!

Sorry, it's a fake bro. I'm going to laugh because you waited for something that doesn't exist

Eh, new phones come out 6 months later. No biggie

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[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
you think so, because you is the owner sgs5 ? Is not it ? :p
[Galaxy S 5 General] Airax:
3/12/14 [Discussion] Galaxy "F" Series to come in May... Metal, better specs.

A perception on how "popular" a phone is pretty flawed I'm sure you'll agree. You can get market stats, GfK in the UK is probably more accurate way of looking at it. Lots of analysts will put out numbers on S5. Look at those.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rulala:
If samsung announce galaxy note4 (exynos 6(64bit) + 4GB ram) on September

Will you buy exynos 5430 + 3GB ram [s5 prime] on June or July?

I prefer to waiting for note4 . they are separated by only two Months.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
No, I will wait for the S6 and Note 5 instead. :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 5 General] rulala:
That's because you already own SM-G900A .:)

So you don't need to upgrade quickily.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Nah, i'm not about using a pen with my phone. S5 prime please.
[Galaxy S 5 General] D33KK:
Galaxy Z running Tizen announced.

Happy days, won't have to sell my s5 :rolleyes:
[Galaxy S 5 General] eyecon82:
No where close to the rumored specs...

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[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Pretty sure the Galaxy Z ain't the 906 Prime spec'd phone we've been seeing.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Whiskey103:
Guys/Gals, thread cleaned a bit ;)

Please keep it nice and friendly shall we :)

Cheers!

Whiskey

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[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Disregarding that 2 pages of discussion were blatantly deleted just because some moderators can't handle "disagreements"...

The 906 isn't the "prime" neither.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Everything I've read has said the Prime is the KQ codenamed "Lentis" with G906x model name. But, who the hell knows, it could all be speculation. If you have some insider info, do share. :)

As for the G906x, it just got certification in South Korea: http://www.gforgames.com/gadgets/samsung-galaxy-s5-prime-certified-release-date-43734/
[Galaxy S 5 General] frankgreimes:
Unbelievable, how worked up people are getting over a rumor. Just look at the LG 3 it is the first challenger for Samsung since forever Samsung isn't stupid they know exactly, that the S5 isn't a big enough upgrade for a lot of users to justify a premium pricepoint.

Samsung can't sit on their hands doing nothing and let LG gain some of their customers, so releasing a S5 prime version is in their best interests. I really hope the waiting means, they are either adding a Sd 805 or even better the Sd 810 with 4 gig of ram and around 2,8 ghz, qhd and a removable full leather back with three physical navigation buttons.
[Galaxy S 5 General] eyecon82:
Prime images have been rumored to leak on the latest android blogs

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[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Via @evleaks
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
The device definitely exist, its not even a rumor anymore imo. Its definitely getting released in Korea cos the 3 model names for the 3 carriers there have been certified. I'm yet to see anything about it being released in US/Europe? There's pros and cons, release just in Korea = maintain reputation and you won't piss of the S5 owners. But then the con is that if they don't release to EU/US then they essentialy don't compete with the G3 and aren't able to target their biggest market and make more profits. Be interesting to see how it pans out. Does Samsung generaly release in Korea first then release to other markets at a later date? 'Samsung Galaxy F' seems to be the name according to evleaks who posted the images above ^
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
The Korean 906 is not the "F".
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
I think what Andrei is saying is:

1) 906x is not the premium flagship "F Series" everyone was talking about even before the S5 launch (as noted by the topic heading of this thread).

2) The term "Prime" came along at some point and got naturally attached to the 906x variant. But, there is no evidence the term "Prime" has ever been used anywhere officially whereas the "F Series" moniker was initially leaked by Samsung.

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Interestingly enough, phonearena just posted a news update today insinuating the same:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Upsc...nder-suggests-a-brushed-metal-chassis_id56845
[Galaxy S 5 General] auxaux:
I wanted to add some speculation I was thinking off. Today I tried to find some proof to my thoughts. please comment.

First I think the Galaxy F will actually be released, I am not sure when. But I think it might be announced shortly after the Google IO event.

Why? I think Google will introduce Android 5.x during this event.

I found this article that matches this assumption.

So what does Android 5.x have what's worth waiting for?

It has 64-bit support. I found this information that Intel was waiting for android to support this before releasing there 64-bit Merrifield chip and voila on the Mobile World Congress the chip was released. Deducting from that information this could indicate that android-64bit (aka android 5.x) is ready.

Concluding; Samsung will wait for Google to anounce Android 5 at Google IO. Shortly After they will anounce there New High-End Galaxy-F product line, starting ofcourse with the Galaxy F (or Galaxy F1) And therefor the Galaxy F will not be a Galaxy S5+ or prime.

Google IO will take place 25/26 june, so we have to wait a bit longer... patience...
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Uhh not sure what 64 bit will have to do with it, you won't see phones from Samsung until next year with it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sonyfan12:
Perhaps the announcement will be in a week
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
Well here's the translation:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
Galaxy Z (Tizen). First in Russia. After some time in India. And all.. :laugh:

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AndreiLux, G906 not "F"/prime series ? It's very interesting :) Evleaks says about the fall by the appearance of a prime_version.. probably together with note4. It's true ?...
[Galaxy S 5 General] ixon2001:
I think Samsung will do the same as they did with the S800 version of the S4, release it in Korea first then in a few more months release it worldwide & by that time nobody will be all that fussed anymore, as the Note 4 will be around the corner plus the iPhone 6 aswell & whatever Sony has planned for the Z3 & maybe a new Nexus device or Silver.

As it stands the S5 hold up well to the current crop of smartphones, inc the G3, just because it isn't made of metal & doesn't offer QHD screen or 3GB of ram doesn't make it any less crappy than the rest that are out now.

And honestly i hate metal phones you only have look at them and they scratch, plus most will have it covered up in a case.... so what the point.

Me I'm more interested in what the Note 4 brings towards the end of the year, than a premium version of the S5.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
They're talking about the Tab S announcements.

Same specs as the "F". Basically the only thing we don't know is the design.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rulala:
If note 4 is the same specs as the "F" .

That mean they will announce on Septemper together.

it also mean if we desire a prime s5(QHD+S805/5430+3GB ram)

now we need to wait "Three" months.. :rolleyes:

Because 906x "Seems" to be sell only for Korea ?

I hope samsung It could bring 906x coming in other markets.

Dont only for Korea.

LG G3 sales in Korea reach 100,000 in 5 days.

LG G3 outsells the Samsung Galaxy S5 in Korea.

so , Samsung , What are you doing?

where is your Weapon?

Let us see !!!
[Galaxy S 5 General] dragon135:
So AndreiLux, what is the cpu and gpu of this Prime?

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[Galaxy S 5 General] sonyfan12:
Need to fix this.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2746925

No need megapixels, megahertz, cores, ppi. etc for noobs
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Not sure of the GPU on the 543X but I suspect a T760. 805 variant for some markets which has known specs.

I doubt anybody cares / notices a 200Hz flicker.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
That would be the first implementation of T760? I am more interested about the 20nm process speculation. Is it confirmed?
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Pretty much yes.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Baldilocks:
http://www.phonearena.com/news/Samsung-Galaxy-F-poses-for-outdoor-photo_id56965
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Don't dig that fake metal back - but whatever, can always buy a third-party replacement.

At least it doesn't look like an outdated toy as the S5 did. Considering the specs of the phone - I might get it if the front design remains similar.
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
Mali T760 should be interesting ..

That is the Mali T760MP4 in RK3288( 1.8ghz 4xA12 cores,28nm HKMG) ,

Mali T760 is scalable upto 16cores(MP16)
[Galaxy S 5 General] dragon135:
If samsung really can produce 5.2inch QHD resolution super amoled on this s prime then they are the king of display. Really waiting it if the size is really smaller than s5

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[Galaxy S 5 General] drakester09:
I wonder which config is that... I get double the results on my G900H for the most part. (Nevermind just saw the MP4...)

Disregard the absolutely terrible Manhattan score, the GPU never gets over 266 on that... I really wonder why.
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Is it really 5.2 inch display? Looks much larger, though possible that the angle of the photo could cause this.
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
600mhz is the clock frequency(for the GPU ) mentioned in the source code for the exynos 5430 and that's the same frequency t760 clocks upto.
[Galaxy S 5 General] dragon135:
From phonearena:

" He also tells us that the phone is slightly smaller than the Samsung Galaxy S5 with thinner bezels."

They said it is 5.3' while older rumour said 5.2".

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[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
Hopefuly something is announced on the 12th at the event. September release is now making the most sense.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Still hoping for an Exynos variant!
[Galaxy S 5 General] ixon2001:
I think it just going to be tablets at this event, if anything they just quietly release it in Korea, then rest of the world after a couple of months.

Same thing they did with the S800 version of the S4, I remember this pissed alot of people off when rumours started to fly about, but in the end it came to nothing.

IFA will be for the Note 4

Then a unpacked event for the S6 next spring.

Like before to many rumours flying about atm & different pictures of the Prime/F

Latest one is Samsung plan on ditching the S line and replacing it with the F, well if that the case then the F won't be on the market long before it replaced with the FII as i can't really see Samsung missing out on a Spring launch next year.
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
As I suspected, the Galaxy F/S5 Prime seems to be headed to Korea. I doubt we will get this phone, and if so, it will probably be later. Later enough to not cause an uproar with current S5 owners.

http://pulse.me/s/1pO8Hf

*EDIT* Upon further review, maybe I read the article wrong? Does it sound like Korea only, or..?
[Galaxy S 5 General] BuntyRulz:
May is over, cometh June

I don't think the S5 prime is coming anyte soon.....:D
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
Based on the above discussion, S5 F Series / "Prime" isn't the 906x LTE-A series for the Korea market. Keep in mind, Korea market has always had their LTE-A flavors after a major flagship release, this F Series is something completely new: It's supposed to be the "Fashion" / higher spec'd S5.
[Galaxy S 5 General] gmann2k10:
I dunno bout that, i think they're gonna market it like mad and won't be as quiet as other variants of S4 where. The phone is a huge leap from S5. Unless ofc they release it in Korea only for a bit like you say and then just focus on marketing the Note 4 which most likely will have similar specs.
[Galaxy S 5 General] ixon2001:
Agreed it's most likely the F won't get released at all in the West or anywhere else other than the Korean market only, with the Note 4 being the Autumn flagship for the rest of the World.

If they do decide to release it over here by the time it does get here, everybody will be ready for the Note 4, Nexus 6, iPhone 6 & probs the Z3, and maybe a phablet from HTC. the F series will not seem as interesting as it stands now, as all these will more likely have QHD screens apart from the iPhone that is they have something different.
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Wrong.

Correct.
[Galaxy S 5 General] dragon135:
When is the announcement. It takes long time.

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[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
I think it's more likely that so-called F-series and Note 4 will have same specs. Note 4 will obviously have larger screen and S-Pen. It doesn't make sense for Samsung to use different SOC or specs for 2 phones which are likely to be released close to each other.

I think it makes business sense for Samsung to release a F-series this time. This is mainly coz of the upcoming iPhone 6 which will for the first time have a larger screen. This means added competition from Apple in high end market. Samsung needs to respond to this new threat. iPhone was never such a big threat in previous year. Along with all the copied features in iOS8, Apple is trying hard to hit the competition. I think GS5 would not make a proper rival to iPhone 6. They need something better.

What

if

Samsung names this Prime phone as GS6??
[Galaxy S 5 General] sohebq:
^^

100% agree with you. It seems like apple will able to able to grab more users or hold existing with newer larger screen as this is the biggest cristicism of iphone.

Sent from Galaxy Note 3 (The beauty & beast)
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
http://www.sammobile.com/2014/06/10/exclusive-samsung-galaxy-note-4-breakdown-sm-g906-clarification/

^ That's the current situation. There's definitely a slew of devices coming up in the next months.
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
And, you already have a few moronic comments on the Exynos to boot! :D
[Galaxy S 5 General] i9100g user:
Well that's the least you can expect from people these days [emoji51]
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Got any other insider information on 5433 at this time? The wait is killing me :(:(
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Didn't manage to extract anything meaningful regarding the 5433, sorry.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rulala:
s5 Frist use LSI camera ISOCELL sensor ,

But F or Note4 will use Sony sensor Again?

this is a point I don't understand Why samsung do this...

ISOCELL is not good?? so samsung give up ?

and another question is..

adreno 420 gpu VS mali-t760 gpu

which one is more powerful? 420 is more better , right?

thanks!! thanks!!
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
It's simple - they are choosing what is best available and feasible at the time. If the Sony sensor is better, then obviously it makes sense to use it. Remember Andrei already mentioned it's still not officially announced by Sony.

As for GPU, we have no clue yet. You can find some info for Rockchip which is a MP4 variant. We still don't know whether it's T760 or some other GPU, and at what configuration.
[Galaxy S 5 General] rulala:
ok , thanks for your reply ！
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
it's possible, but these statements are based only on opensources_files of SM-G900F. There is a mention about IMX240. I think sony_sensor can put due to lack of samsung_sensors in sufficient quantities
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
I assure you they're not.

And it's Sony due to S.LSI not having any mass-producable OIS module available.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
naturally, I do not know much and I'm sure knows sammobile several times more than me, but I draw conclusions about IMX240 only those data that met reality and so I think that sammobile uses the same information ;) for example

char type_lsi[] = "LSI_S5K2P2XX\n";
char type_sony[] = "SONY_IMX240\n";
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
No idea if real or fake..
[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
but why it must fake?
[Galaxy S 5 General] CLARiiON:
Why? No idea.. for the same reason that it might be real.

Some people are good at photoshop and simply love to troll the world!
[Galaxy S 5 General] rulala:
I Think it looks like 906x .

It should not be F .
[Galaxy S 5 General] AndreiLux:
Documents have already shown that the G906 has the same shape and size as the S5. This is not the G906.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tahvero:
I hope they shed some light tomorrow
[Galaxy S 5 General] dragon135:
It doesn't look like QHD resolution

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[Galaxy S 5 General] Pako7:
and how you determined on a photo with a resolution of 680*476 pix that screen is not QHD ? :laugh:
[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
"Inebriation from buyer's remorse."
[Galaxy S 5 General] JoeFCaputo113:
I love the specs of the F series obviously.... But I don't like the metal. Metal is known to scratch, dent easily. Plastic is way more flexible and scratch/dent resistant. I do not regret my GS5 purchase at all bc of that plus the fact we don't even know if it'll be released in the USA and I doubt there will be a lot of development for it considering most have already got a GS5/HTC/LG.

Sent from a Galaxy 5 light years away
[Galaxy S 5 General] dragon135:
Who said it is metal? From leak picture it is plastic like usual

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[Galaxy S 5 General] cmd512:
It could be made of alien goo for all I care, it's going to have a case on it anyway. I just need it to open up so that I can swap out spare batteries.
[Galaxy S 5 General] turt:
So it will be announced on Sep 12 then !

The thing is, it's a Friday not a Wednesday... So it's probably fake ;)
[Galaxy S 5 General] MadManMark:
What are the chances of the same back cover being made for the s5 by third parties? It's not exactly revolutionary
[Galaxy S 5 General] WizeGuyDezignz:
I'm glad I didn't wait for this phone. When it finally gets released, I would have already enjoyed my S5 for 6 months. And then there is the question of if it will even be released in the US.

So yeah, I'm perfectly happy with my S5 and have been enjoying it everyday. :thumbup:
[Galaxy S 5 General] Thewholepalm:
I've been happy with my GS5 since release day in the US. With t-mobile and their !jump program if it does release in the US, those customers could upgrade by then.

If the attitude in the US changes on paying full price for phones instead of contracts, perhaps we'd see more variety in the market. Phones are going through that 1996-2006 period personal computers went through in a sense that everything is better,faster,stronger in such a short period.

Eventually the tech will be so advanced where will it go? It will come full circle when the things you decide for your phone are purely customized for you. Case- 3d printed on site, 5-10 options to choose from of internal hardware configurations or an À la carte option. From there an onsite tech assembles the device for you and sets it up or you walk out the door with your DIY kit.
[Galaxy S 5 General] barondebxl:
And now the AT&T variant has root too!!!