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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] jebep:
I LOVE the recent apps feature and it's working great for me on Ion. imm1304 - I was just checking to be sure you were usiing an Ion! :D...I thought maybe that was the problem for you. Sorry - I hope the OP is able to resolve that issue for you guys.

I like SlimBean also! The ONLY issue for me right now is NO FM RADIO! Is ANYBODY working on that anymore? I thought the CyanogenMod guys would have a solution...

I really LOVE these forums and have learned SOOOOO MUCH!

THANKS to ALL of you who contribute - you're the best! :cool:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
I am using the current .96 based MIUI 4.3.7. Battery life on heavy use when I am off and use lots of whtsapp over 4g, 2 hours of talk time, etc.. it lasts about 7-8 hours. When I am busy working and only use it lightly, it lasts almost 2 days. My data 4g/lte is always on and I dont use wifi or any battery saving apps/mods.

On average, it has to be charged daily just to be sure it doesnt run out of battery during the day.

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Thanks, I will try this.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ben cherian:
No its not problem of holo . Am using nova launcher but still the recent app problem persists
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] montenell:
Am I the only one who had the issue of some calls being full of static?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
Is it necessary to install these patches now, or are they now part of the ROM at this time?

If I need to use Google Maps, what are the minimum Google apps I need to install? Only framework?

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] intoxic8:
I can confirm the recent apps crashing problem. I just avoid using it. It's no big deal to me...

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Yes install it. They are still not part of the ROM afaik...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
Hey, I would think you need just the framework. The link you quoted is very light 8MB black themed Gapps zip.. basic framework and playstore. WIth it, I use google maps regularly without any problem.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
On CM ROMs I like that I can kill the foreground app by pressing and holding down the Back button. Does this ROM have that option somewhere?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
Is the recent apps tab available in the free version of Holo Launcher? Because I don't see that tab.

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How do you install these "light gapps"? because I tried to flash them from TWRP and it failed.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
yeah, just flash it thru recovery... I have used it on MrGezz's cm10 for LB, slimbean and currently using it on optimumpro's new CM-10 rom.. all flashed via TWRP. If I were to guess, I would say your download may have been incomplete, try downloading again and flash it.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
Well, ran my own experiment. I extracted the Google Maps APK from my present phone, an LG G2X running Gingerbread (GB). I then moved the APK to my Ion and clicked to install.

I am happy to say that Google Maps will run as normal WITHOUT framework or anything else installed!

BTW I moved my paid version of Holo Launcher from my G2X GB to my Ion JB by moving and installing the APK. No problems at all with Recent Apps tab crashing. However, I have not moved all my apps from my G2X to my Ion yet. It's possible that those of you with Holo Launcher recent apps crashing problems have the launcher misconfigured or there is a conflicting app running in the background.

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Hey, since installing this Slimbean ROM on my Ion I can't enter CWM anymore, only TWRP. What happened? How do I use CWM?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Olivier:
That's normal, I prefer TWRP because it has more features.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
I prefer CWM because it works with a cracked screen.

CWM saved my butt when I had a cracked screen which chose to activate touches so my phone looked like it was haunted... CWM saved me because it ignored the screen and let me backup my phone and move to a new one.

Is CWM still there, or does flashing this ROM remove it?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Olivier:
No, it has been removed. If you really want CWM: It should suffice to replace the recovery.tar (in this case TWRP) with the recovery.tar from a ROM where CWM is included. You can usually find the recovery.tar in system/bin.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
Do you note anywhere that you remove CWM and overwrite it with TWRP?

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Sent from my G2X using the XDA App. Please excuse my brevity.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
You think you solve the privacy issue by using DroidWall, but you actually don't. First of all, there are plenty of applications that do not advertise their permissions, meaning that for example an app gets access to your contacts, but it won't tell you that during install. Second, even if you blacklist an app in droidwall, the same app can use your web browser or any other allowed app to connect to the internet as much as it wants to all without you noticing it. Third, and that is known about Googleapps, that when you install them, they also install necessary framework elements without them being seen anywhere. In sum, when you install closed source apps, you no longer need malware or viruses: you already have them all.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
Hmmm...

I don't think that's true.

Look, it's very straightforward - an app can only use the permissions specified in its manifest. That manifest is repeated when you install the app, and can be examined from the apps tab in the device. If there is a way around those permissions, I'd like you to explain the exact mechanism how this is done.

No, that app can OPEN your web browser and go to a certain page, but it can't use the browser as a proxy to access the internet. If this is wrong, then please demonstrate or explain exactly how this is done because you claiming a blatant security hole that no one else seems to have uncovered.

I'm not sure what that means. What do you mean, exactly, by "framework elements"? I installed and am using Google Maps without installing Google Framework or anything else.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
One way to go around permissions is update process: because android does not want to break the app, it would allow unlimited new permissions during update. Next, to convince yourself that android allows permissions not listed in manifest, get a recent version of chainfire su and set it to notify you when an app wants root access not listed in manifest. You will be surprised. Also, heard about intents? Those are nasty things that allow apps to communicate and use each other for various accesses. Now, there are intents for which android docs have no explanation and those are allowed. With regard to googleapps: the point is that gsf may come embedded in the app. That would explain why google maps work on your phone without gsf.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
First, I check the new permissions of any app that wants an update. If I don't like the new permissions, I don't update. For that reason there are a handful of apps I never update.

Also, from my research Intents can only use the permissions that are assigned to the app in the first place. They can't do anything that the app is denied permission to do.

Last, I do have a root su app and it tells me when an app wants root access. No surprises.

If you have an example of an app that can still access the network while I have it blocked with DroidWall, I'd be happy to test it out and report my findings.

But more importantly, I am finding on this SlimBean ROM that my Ion will not keep the time. I do not yet have a SIM card inserted so automatically updating the time is turned off, but my Ion with this ROM keeps reverting to February 14, 1970. This happens with a fully charged battery and the phone left turned on.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
"Also, from my research Intents can only use the permissions that are assigned to the app in the first place. They can't do anything that the app is denied permission to do."

You have got to do a better research. Intents can be used to obtain from other apps permissions otherwise unavailable to the original app.

" I do have a root su app and it tells me when an app wants root access. No surprises."

I wasn't talking about "a" root su, but rather about the specific su app by chainfire. That app has an option to alert (you) and restrict an app that wants a non-declared permission. In other words, you could see on your own phone that it is possible for an app to have an undeclared permission.

Now, regarding Slimbean's time default (although I have no idea what this has to do with our discussion): time default is actually a security feature showing that this rom, unlike any other rom, separates well the phone system from baseband partition which is a closed source operating system in of itself capable of remote exploits and execution even when your data is off, your simcard is out and the phone itself is off. You are welcome to research that too. :)

Well, I admit I failed to convince you that you are totally wrong on this. That, however, does not change the reality. But if you feel comfortable you are doing things right, good for you. Who am I to ruin your day? :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
So, I tried to work with what [MENTION=4306087]EEngineer[/MENTION] said here... at first, I installed xperia launcher as system app and made it the default launcher. The recent app problem persisted. Then I went to system/app and deleted holo launcher and rebooted. Now I was able to select apps from recent apps list without crashing. So, yes.. complete removal of the holo launcher fixed the recent app issue for me. Well... almost fixed.. most of the time it didnt crash but once in ten tries it did crash. But its a lot more usable now.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
Glad I helped. BTW, the most recent version of Holo Launcher is v2.1.1 However, the version in included in SlimBean is v1.(something) and I recall the v1 versions were very very buggy.

BTW, I use "Holo Launcher", I do not use "Holo Launcher HD".

In Holo Launcher, under About Launcher you should uncheck "Auto report error and usage". If that doesn't fix the occasional crashes, disable Unread Counts.

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I've researched it and unless you would like to provide me with some links, what you wrote makes no sense. For example, I'm not sure what you mean by "time default". Do you mean the default time zone? Because the time zone is not changing on me. "Time default" is a strange phrase. Also, your claim that the time problem has to do with the baseband being separated from the phone system also doesn't make sense from an engineering standpoint.

I'm an Electrical Engineer. I design hardware systems and my specialty is processors. The RTC (real time clock) that provides the timebase on an Android is in the power management (PM) chip and not the processor. The PM manages functions that need to be available when the phone is turned off such as the RTC, battery charger, audio (for alarms), and USB, something like TI's TWL5030 or Broadcom's BCM59035.

I'm sorry but to my knowledge, I have never seen a baseband processor that includes an RTC because from a circuit point of view it makes no sense.

If you want to be secure, then use Gingerbread (GB) as GB does not have a lot of the security-violating code that ICS/JB/KK have. Most importantly GB lets you turn off background data, a privacy-invasive feature that Google set to be "on" all the time in later versions. You should also use a phone that will let you easily remove the battery.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Olivier:
Interesting:

You guys may want to try that on your IONs.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
Time default refers to the fact that Slimbean defaults to 1970s absent cell connection. Unlike in other roms, Slimbean takes time over the cell network only and if your sim card is out, it defaults to 1970s. So, unless you tick "network time", the phone won't show the correct time even if the sim card is in: try to turn off the phone and then on, you will see that the clock would initially briefly show another time zone and then correct itself once the cell connection is established. In addition, PM management is heavily modified in CM based roms and in Slimbean, when the phone is off, not only most regular features are off, but baseband itself is insulated from the system in that there could be no connection with the cell network, which is a good security feature. With regard to background data, this could be disabled by decompiling and changing framework.res or settings apps (don't remember now which). By the way, my patches for CM and Slimbean do disable background data.

Regardless of this, Droidwall (which I think is an outdated app) cannot prevent malicious apps (which in my view all closed source apps are) from uploading whatever data they collect to whatever servers they choose. By the way, Droidwall does not have a regular Linux type settings where you can disable all incoming connections. Android Firewall by Jason Tschohl does that. However, all this is still not enough unless you have an app like Xposed Xprivacy, which deals with permissions on demand. So, one can be reasonably secure with Slimbean minus all closed source apps plus Android Firewall and Xprivacy.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
This makes no sense - how can Slimbean take time off the cell network if the SIM card is out?????

O.K., this is a dumb thing to do.

I don't even see how it is possible unless you intentionally corrupt the RTC registers and reset them back to 1970. This means bypassing the APIs and writing directly to the hardware, always a dumb thing to do. What you are describing serves no engineering purpose. By this behavior, if the phone of off long enough it will lose time. Also, if I am on a long plane flight with no cell signal, or if the phone is put in airplane mode long enough, it will lose time.

[MENTION=292537]oliver[/MENTION], is all this correct? Also, I'm having a hard time believing that you don't allow the RTC to keep the correct time in the absence of a cell connection and why you would want to do that in the first place.

If your patches disable background data then certain good apps that require it, like Holo Launcher Pro or some news apps, won't work. Also, for those that decide to use it Google Play will refuse to work. With your patches how is background data enabled?

Sorry, but I think that too much of what you have told me here is now way past the believability stage. I have appreciaed your help in the past, but unless you can provide me with any documentation of your claims, including that DroidWall still allows incoming connections when blocked (a claim that the developer strongly denies), then, to put things politely, you are waaaay past the credibility wall here. I'm not saying you are making things up, but I'd like to see some technical documentation, please.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Olivier:
Sorry guys, I don't care who's wrong and/or who's right at the moment, but could you keep your conversation private? Else I'll have to ask a mod to clean this thread...

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
I am done... But I think he was complaining that you "failed" to warn him that you replaced CWM with TWRP. :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Olivier:
My sincere apologies. It's just a matter of swapping one file though.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
Got to apologize to the board: I was caught by a troll. Should have figured it out earlier by his questions.

Droidwall development stopped in 2011. The dev hasn't posted on XDA since December 2011. The latest version 1.5.7 had no support for ICS, not to mention Jelly Bean. And this fellow "Eengineer" solves privacy issues with Droidwall that is running on his T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Tab with JB 4.1.2. LOL. Sorry for feeding the troll, but I do stand by what I have said.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
No, I'm not trolling. But you need to understand my point of view as a hardware engineer with over 25 years experience. Words have exact meaning and certain engineering practices are meant to be followed. No slack is given for inexact language. I've designed automotive airbag systems and I saw two people transferred down for inexact language - because in airbags that can get people killed.

Messing with a real-time clock (RTC) - well, if Engineering was a religion (and it is mine), messing with an RTC would be blasphemy, along the lines of eating pork in Judaism or spitting on the cross in Christianity. So many embedded systems depend upon a reliable timebase that messing with the RTC is almost a fireable offense.

That, and TWRP (doesn't work with a cracked screen) substituting for CWM (does work with a cracked screen), it's undocumented things like these that get a HW engineer called to the carpet. No, I'm not insulting, I'm CHALLENGING. Hardware engineering is a much different culture than SW. If you ever sit in on a meeting of hardware engineers designing a microprocessor-based system, there is constant challenging and a little yelling, but it's understood that it's all in the interest of good professional engineering. Anyone that takes personal offense might find their skills questioned.

So I rebooted my Ion and viola! Time is now 1970. I tried an app from recent apps and the launcher crashed. Blasphemy!!! :p

OP is right about DroidWall and Android Firewall by jtschohl looks to be the recommended alternative. But an RTC that doesn't work when you turn the phone off is unacceptable, especially for someone who depends on their phone for the time and has to turn their phone on and off on airplanes to save power on long flights. If the RTC worked, this would be the perfect ROM.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
How do I get the RTC to work with the phone turned off? Don't you think that's significant enough to mention in the description of this ROM?

My position is, if the ROM 1) overwrites reliable CWM with the less reliable TWRP, and also 2) has a clock that does not function when the phone is turned off (which BTW may be why recent apps crash), aren't these are VERY SIGNIFICANT issues that should have been mentioned in the first place? Especially (2), because until the phone syncs with the mobile time you are going to get 1970 timestamps on various files and apps meant to start on boot which can result in unpredicable behavior.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
hey, the OP quoted a fix for the recent apps crash on the previous page: seting /developer options / transition animation scale /

And set it to 0.5

I confirm that this fixed apps crash for me. :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
Don't bother. This is the 4th time he is asking this same question. He is not looking for an answer, just trying to pick a fight. Better to just ignore...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
:D I learned a bit from your discussion

Also, a minor help request: When I enable weather on the lock screen, it never loads.. I can't set location. I tried entering many different locations (I want Toronto, Canada) and it just says "can't retrieve location". This feature works perfectly in your new rom.

I do use another weather widget on home screen so its not really a problem.. but just wondering if its fixable. Thanks.

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someone has developed an app to fix the RTC, all you gotta do is install the apk and then run it once and hit install. This fixed the date/time error I was getting at startup from some apps like whatsapp.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48738679
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
Thanks. Does this allow the RTC to still run with the phone turned off?

optimumpro thinks anyone that doesn't agree with him is trying to pick a fight. Better just to ignore.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Olivier:
This ROM does NOT overwrite CWM with TWRP. The system partition automatically gets formatted. And I've chosen TWRP because CWM is just odd (why using power und volume buttons when there's a touchscreen?). If you are scared of your phone getting broken again then just use CWM.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
I don't know enough to give u a clear answer. But here is what it did: Now my phone reboots with correct date and before mobile connection, the phone displays GMT (I am in EST). The GMT I assume is because my gmail account on this phone was set up in the UK (by default, my phone gmail account's home zone is GMT since then). This app applies a script specific to your phone to adjust date/time. Not sure if that script simply picks up each time when the phone is switched on or if the RTC is running while the phone is off.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
I don't think it is working at all. I just read the thread you linked and tried several options: none work. Moreover, I think this has nothing to do with Slimbean. I was able to reproduce the same "bug" in a stock rom, i.e., untick network time and reboot: I don't have the 1970 date, but neither the date nor time is correct. I think this has to do with ION's design and the lack of auxiliary battery for RTC and some other things.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
you must be right. From end user point of view, I am just glad that I don't see the Date/Time error at startup anymore. I would guess that the apk at the thread I linked to doesnt fix RTC.. simply adjusts time before other apps report error on startup.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Olivier:
BTW: I had those RTC issues on my old device (HTC Wildfire S) too and since it was a bit slow, it would take some time after boot to set the time properly, so I just used the app "ClockSync". It's a root app which forces correct time and I think it doesn't even need Internet access.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] optimumpro:
Are you saying that weather doesn't work on Slimbean, but works fine on CM10? There could be several reasons for that: you need to give Android System access to the internet and location services (optional). Unfortunately, weather is embedded in system, so by granting internet access to weather, you open the same to the whole bunch of apps. That's why I prefer a separate app/widget. Check your firewall and/or Xposed modules if you have one. I'd stick with the third party app..
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
yup, works on your CM10 rom but not on Slimbean.

Hmm.. in that case, I will stick with the third party app (I am using xperia launcher and weather widget and happy with it). Thank you for the helpful reply.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] ben cherian:
best equilizer app for slimbean

A lot has been discussd here but guys no one told about an equilizer app . I have removed music and added apollo music player but not got equilizer . [MENTION=5075064]optimumpro[/MENTION] [MENTION=292537]oliver[/MENTION] [MENTION=4306087]EEngineer[/MENTION] [MENTION=4918799]imm1304[/MENTION] . Can anyone tell a best equilizer for slimbean ?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] EEngineer:
I use Simple Eq on my JB tablet. On my LG G2X running good old CM7, I like the DSP Manager that came with the ROM. Both are good (not great) equalizer apps, but I don't play a lot of music on my phone or tab so I'm not that picky.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] imm1304:
I use walkman because I am used to it and is good enough.