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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
Could the custom status be the problem?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
You should NOT be rooted for the OTA to work. Most of the OTA failures we're having is due to a rooted state of the phone. There's another problem causing your OTA failure that we can't identify so we're instructing you to flash a fresh copy of the firmware through Odin. If you want to wait out a few days, or maybe a week, Kies should be able to update you to NE1 without wiping your phone. But there's no promises on whether Kies will work. Be sure to update everything you have on the phone before you begin with Odin.

Here's a How-To for using odin with the GS3: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1722686

And Here's Links to the ML1/NC1 firmwares (download the NC1 .tar): http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2589314

Also, "Custom Status" would be part of the problem, so if anyone could chime in on this that would be great. If he's unrooted on NC1 but it still says "Custom" with an unlock symbol on boot, something is still telling the system that it's "rooted".
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
I gotcha. Thanks man. I'll keep looking through my phone and see if I can think of anything

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If I rooted with towelroot, changed the status to official with Wanam and then tried installing do you think that would help?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 8ttype4:
Thanks for saving me- I'm not all up on which firmwares are unlocked.. I guess I'll just wait for a custom TW 4.4 ROM even though it's probably gonna take a while.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Use Kies to upgrade to NE1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
I would but Kies says that NC1 is the latest firmware
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
so I can't unroot from su and then take the update? don't have comp atm
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
I am not a dev, but could you upload a picture of download mode for KitKat? I'm interested in this change.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
Sure, here ya go:

Sorry that it's dark, but you can easily see everything on the screen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
Wait, the bootloader description seems to have changed on KitKat. With the warranty and that other bit gone now (skips my mind which it is at the moment. Lol.), and if Towelroot still works, we may have something to work with. Is the VZW SGS4 and SGS5 bootloader different? Probably is, but if not, then that's good.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
The GS4 would be more similar to the S3's bootloader, since they run the same SoC (correct me if i'm wrong). The S5 would be different though, since it uses a different chip. Towelroot acts upon a kernel exploit iirc, so it's device independent and it's more of android's fault. The bootloader is definitely a change on samsung's behalf. I'd definitely like to see what a dev might have to say about the change in our bootloaders.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
They don't really have the same SoC, but I believe the core revision on the two is the same, so I can in effect the SoCs are very similar. Even so though, it's not a guarantee that their bootloaders would be the same because outside the processor, the hardware between the S3 and S4 are quite different so the bootloader may have had to be different.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Not too happy with 4.4.2...

Having lots of freezes and having to pull the batt to reboot. Wish I knew if it was safe to Odin back to ML1
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
I'm curious, what's the model number behind your battery? It could either be SCH-I535 or SCH-I535v. I have the v since my original died on me, and i have not had any problems with any of the firmwares (ML1, NC1, NE1). I wonder if the original version just "doesn't like" the new OTA's.

Edit: Oh, and I don't know what the difference is between them, other than that the I535v comes with ML1 preloaded.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Hence why I'm not on a kk rom. Had too many issues. I'm surprised everyone here was so quick to update

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Mine says: Model: SCH-I535

SKU: SCHI535MBB

Then just above the barcode, says 535V 16GB

I'm assuming that just means Verizon

Mine worked fine for the first 18 hours or so. this last time when it was starting to get slow I went to task manager and it showed memory was 1.49G out of 1.54G. no active apps showed up in the list, so went back to RAM and did clear memory. said it closed 55 tasks and memory used dropped to 575MB... need to find an aftermarket task manager so I can see what's running and whats eating the ram...

ML1 and NC1 ran fine

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mine was already locked from a premature 4.3 OTA... so I figured what the heck...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
thinking of doing mobile techs downgrade service 50 bucks cheaper then a new phone kinda miss unlocked boot loader
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Ah I see. Yea I'm seeing all the problems people are having and I'm glad I never took the ota

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] larry0987:
I haven't had any issues with kk since I updated. .96Gbp free ram with 31 hrs uptime. I did a factory reset when I odined back to stock nc1 so that might be of benefit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
I did the same. Did a reset, odin'd 4.3, took the NC1 with Kies and then the NE1 using the recovery to flash the update.zip file that was posted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Found OSmonitor. Free and pretty functional. Dev options I enable as soon as its up and running. I'll try limiting background processes
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] twistedillutions:
Installing 4.4.2 on my bros lock fone. Hehehe let's see how it goes
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Appreciate the screenshots. My bad for the delay, I was at work late then went out to watch the USA vs. Portugal match. I'm not happy about that result.

Verizon/Samsung did keep the secured bootloader in tact, based on that "Bootloader/ AP Swerv" line.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bbc84:
Just got the update on my VZ S3. Anyway to get the Google Now Launcher?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jackelope:
Google says it's not compatible; but I have downloaded the apk and installed it when I was

on 4.3 ML1 and it ran fine. So it should work on 4.4.2 but don't quote me on it. I'll try it now and let you know.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] vmancini3:
Well....as long as you root it....you can probably just obtain the appropriate apk and libs and place them in the system/app folder and that might be all it takes! I know I'm being pretty vague here, but I installed the GEL (Google Experience Launcher) only once before and that's how it was done.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] twistedillutions:
Just updated my bros fone. Right away i can tell it moves smoother between screens apps folders.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jackelope:
I downloaded the zip from: Here

And I installed the GoogleHome.apk. For some reason I was unable to install the other 2 apks. Then just

because I tried the launcher and so far it works fine. I didn't even copy any files to the system/lib like it says.

It installs but I didn't follow the instructions fully so far. So use at your own risk. I don't know if anything will go wonky in the future.

I don't know if you need to copy the file to /system/lib or if you need to install the other 2 apks on this version.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
That launcher is on the play store if your running a 4.4kk rom it should be there

Sent from my SCH-I535 using Xparent ICS Tapatalk 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
A new caveat with KK. This popped up on me. They can now automatically update the security policy on the phone. From what I read, it updates the SElinux so it may be able to unroot you if you leave it enabled
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jkrmnj:
no Knox message in download mode

I recently updated to KitKat and rooted with towel root. I decided to check out download mode and see if I still haven't tripped Knox. Weird thing was that Knox was not mentioned anywhere in download mode. I know Knox is on my devise because I get notifications about setting security and I found it in titanium backup, but I haven't seen any problems caused by Knox and I didn't see the Knox counter. Is this normal? I am guessing it is a good thing.:D

Also, gel works perfectly fine. Just download the gel apk and install.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] open1your1eyes0:
Fortunately the Galaxy S III lacks the certain hardware eFuses required for the "KNOX counter" that was introduced first in the Galaxy S4. Therefore this is about as locked-down as the bootloader will get for us.

But anyhow they should not be worried about because I'm sure the majority of you guys worry about it for warranty repair purposes if anything happens. Keep in mind the warranty is only for 1 year which I'm sure a good percentage of these devices have already passed anyways.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] suchavibrantthang:
Not that this pertains to kitkat, but i've actually sent back 3 phones in the last 3months cause they kept giving me broken ****. if there's a real problem with the phone, they just get a manager approval (1-2days), then you get a tracking number via text or email. my phones' have been way outta warranty. but you'll most likely get back 4.3 ML1, NC1 on a i535V device. doesn't hurt to try, just online chat w/ a rep. cheers!:good:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
My struggles with the 4.4 update completely f***ed up my phone so I went to verizon support. Granted, my 1 year warranty is still intact, but I'm getting a new phone sent to me tomorrow. I'm praying its still on MF1 but I really doubt it. Hopefully its not messed up like your replacements...

Also, to those saying they had problems with Kitkat, do you think it's smart for me to update when I get my new phone or should I stay at ML1 or NC1? (if it's somehow MF1 there's no way in hell that within the first couple minutes I dont unlock its bootloader and flash CM) But what are your opinions?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
If you get an MF1 phone, hell yeah unlock that bootloader. But if you are on ML1 or NC1, just try updating to NE1 4.4.2 and if you have problems again, go yell at verizon. There are so many things that are better about the NE1 update, in my opinion. I couldn't wait to get away from TW 4.3. And it's TW 4.4.2, but the fact that it's 4.4.2 is enough for me.

edit: wanted to add, that I think the reason some people are having problems is how old their S3 is. The new replacements seem to have better software stability. Since you're getting a replacement, that's why I think you should give NE1 another try.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
Hahaha yes I will! And I absolutely will flip. I talked to customer service yesterday on the phone, they told me go to the store, then I go to the store and tell me that they have no more in-store support and I should call them (seriously WTF). The store called support and I was able to get help.

Thanks dude, I think you're right that 4.4.2 is better (but why no ART? stupid Samsung)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
Oh and i've heard that adding ART support is about just downloading the right libraries (.so) to the right locaton on the phone (and i guess adding an option in settings?). I don't have any links, since it was mentioned earlier in this thread, but maybe someone will figure it out and make a post.

I wonder if the S3 even supports ART though... on my first S3(MF1) I was running CM11 and when I tried to enable ART, it never worked and always booted up in dalvik mode.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
Oh really? That's nice I would like to try it out it seems pretty useful.

I think it has to, I mean Android 4.5 (Lollipop) will use ART as the default.. (I guess S3 will probably never get 4.5 but still)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
I was just reading in here: http://android.stackexchange.com/qu...switch-to-art-runtime-on-my-samsung-galaxy-s4

and it seems ART is not included in the S4 because touchwiz is incompatible with the runtime. So since it doesn't work on the S4, I would assume this is the reason it doesn't work on the S3. (or the note 2 if anyone has that too).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Sounds like you had Xposed installed. Cuz Xposed prevents switching to ART by doing this exact thing on boot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
Aha, that must've been it. >.<

I wonder if xposed will make an ART compatible version sometime soon, especially with 4.5 around the corner.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
I'm sure rovo89 will do his best to make Xposed compatible with ART if it is default in the next OS. I just hope people do not spam him about ART as the next version of Android is released and (hopefully) subsequently rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] greatdaneduke:
I am presently on stock rooted 4.3 with a locked boot loader. If I take the update is there a way to root again?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
Yes, there is! Towel root works great since the kernel was built on may 20th. You have to install busybox and SuperSu/Superuser manually though.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
On one XDA post about the change rovo commented that he will make the switch of Xposed to ART when it is fully ready. Apparently the code is still changing so it's not worth the time now. Wish I had the link to it, sorry haha
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] zachf714:
No settings are needed to be added because the code is just dormant and you booted back to dalvik because you had xposed installed(yes it is magic that I know that)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Ryan829:
Still need help

Still need help guys I have tried all suggestions to no avail. I am stuck on the Firmware upgrade encountered an issue screen
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jackelope:
I had the same issue. I used the Verizon repair app and let it install 4.4.2. I too was stuck on the firmware error screen. Another problem I had was my sub was faulty so I had to have it half in and half out of the port for it to work.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Ryan829:
I tried that about a billion times on 4 different computers with multiple cables and ports with no luck
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jackelope:
I also installed the Verizon USB Driver that showed up when your phone is in install mode. I was also on windows 7 and went under Start->Devices and Printers and made sure the modem showed up. It's labeled 8 thousand something I believe.

Here's the files from the phone when it's in install mode.

USB Drivers etc
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
I had a sort of similar problem. My device wouldn't take the update either so I just unrooted, reset (which didn't help), and then called Verizon and told them that my phone won't take any updates so they sending me a new one today. It's not ideal (especially bc I lost a lot of stuff when restoring all of my backups didn't work and I'll have to set everything up again) but at least this way you will have a functioning phone and can do whatever you want again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
Don't know if anyone else has noticed this but I think Samsung is starting to get picky about which chargers you can use. I have tried a couple of car chargers that have worked with the 4.3 updates and prior but now they don't work. They work fine for my dad's RAZR m and my mom's old Samsung slider feature phone but oh no not my awesome Galaxy s3. Samsung is like the soup nazi, "no charge for you!". now I have to get new car chargers for my parents cars that will work with the 4.4 updates (considering that Verizon will have bugfix patches in the future). Can anyone recommend a good car charger that has a built-in micro usb cord and a USB port that is at a good price (preferably under ten bucks but I will take under twenty as well)?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] vmancini3:
Man I really wish there was something I could do to help getting a .tar file for the 4.4 update or anything else for that matter!!! I'd do it in a heartbeat!

Edit: Although I know it's not that simple, still I wish there was something I could do to help!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
What do you like better about 4.4.2? I'm on the fence about updating.

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Same
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
I wonder how to pull kies firmware files out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] capt730:
Did it actually download via Kies? Wifi was the only way to get the update so far (6/20-6/24).
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
The first thing I like is the tap and pay functionality with google wallet. It works on this phone with 4.4.2. I'm so glad I don't have to use ISIS wallet to have this function, because ISIS wallet is crap. You have to sign up for an american express card in order to use it. Google wallet is easy peasy, and works with any type of card you currently have.

With samsung's 4.4.2 rom, alot of visual things are changed too. The lock screen no longer has that stupid lens flare effect when you set it to swipe to unlock. It just has an unlock ring with a flat style. The status bar uses the real kitkat API now, instead of the fake transparent statusbar on 4.3. It works with apps that use the transparent statusbar alot better.

Performance wise, I'm personally seeing that it is faster, smoother and snappier. It doesn't suck the battery down either. The performance is just as I expect, just like when i was running CM11 on my first S3 with the MF1 unlocked bootloader. I ran a 3D mark benchmark and scored 1200 points above the average for the S3, so i'd say that's pretty good.

I use xposed framework to customize my phone, with a combination of GravityBox and Wanam Xposed. The kitkat version of gravitybox has alot more options to tweak my phone.

Edit: I also forgot to mention that I can now enable the CRT screen off effect with gravity box! I love this effect, its my favorite visual enhancement.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
Don't forget the Dialer with built in search and new music lock screen controls
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
When you rooted (I assume with towelroot) did it set off the "custom" status? I'd prefer not to have that if I can avoid it. I know you can fake it with Wanam but in the event of (by some miracle, ik it's a stretch) a 4.5/5.0 update I'd really like to have that too. Just curious and having some root reservations.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
Actually, it still uses the crappy touchwiz dialer. I don't know if the music lock screen controls are entirely different, but they are there. What we have to look forward to is the features at the core of android in 4.4.2, and the visual enhancements that samsung changed in their touchwiz UI.

When I towelrooted it, I think it set off the custom flag, but I easily forced it back to official with wanam xposed. It's not a complete fake system status, because wanam just tricks the OS and it actually sets the flag to official.

I doubt towelroot is going to work for anything new coming down the pipe, so no one knows what'll happen when android 4.5 gets released.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
Fair enough. I'll just wait till I/O to see what's announced about 4.5 and all that. Thanks!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
1. I don't use Google Wallet payments as I don't trust the security of NFC my any means.

2. The flare effect was a tad annoying but they also got rid of drag to unlock to a specific app didn't they?

3. Transparent statusbar is very annoying.

4. A performance boost is very welcome. That might be enough to get me to switch once we get 4.4.2 CleanRom.

5. I was going to get into Xposed as I've never used it but I agree about the CRT effect. I had it on CM on my first S3 and it was really awesome. Can you run an Antutu Benchmark for me? Thanks for all the feedback!

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YES!!!!! Much needed additions! Thanks Toked

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Is switching to ART an option in Dev Options?

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It's going to be 5.0, not 4.5 probably. Also, Sundar Pichai said today that the new L version of Android is only going to be previewed at I/O. Then, it'll come out in several months, probably with the Nexus 8/9, the Nexus 6, or the first Android Silver device. I know we've all been hoping for a Nexus 8 or 9 or whatever it would be called being introduced at I/O, but unless it comes out as a Silver device with Android 4.4.x or with a 4.5 (yet still KitKat) as a Nexus, that's not gonna happen. However, it doesn't seem like there's going to be a 4.5 and I don't want to see the Nexus line end.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
@#2: They did not. You can choose shortcuts or the camera shortcut (or none)

@#3: how!? Its nice! And way improved

Unfortunately, no it is not. There is discussion that there may be a way to turn it on, but I don't think anyone knows yet.

Ik. I like the Nexus line but I wish it was on Verizon! If silver is on vzw then I would much rather that instead of an unusable nexus line.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
WHOA WHOA WHOA! U mean to tell me the Google Kit Kat dialer, with insta search anything, cannot be used with 4.4.2 TW???? When it first came out I didnt think I would even use it but its easily one of the best things about my phone. You just type in Pizza and it shows you the number of every Pizza place near your location.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
Unfortunately, no, it is not included. Very annoying.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
2. You can drag to unlock a specific app. I have a choice of 5 apps on the bottom of my lock screen.

5. I ran AnTuTu Benchmark and got a score of 17194 for the first run, and 17364 on a second run. A little below the S3's average for this benchmark. Looks like it might be different from 3D mark for comparing against other S3's. I could probably squeeze more out of it if I tweak the governor and the io scheduler. The 3D Mark results still stand, so it might just be graphics performance that was different. Antutu seems to test the CPU more.

6. ART is not available on this rom because of touchwiz. Plus, I wouldn't be using it anyway because xposed only works on dalvik for now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
I had no idea it was AOSP only :( I thought it was a Kit Kat thing.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
We should see if we can install the phone app manually. A core 4.4.2 app should work on 4.4.2. I once tried to get the kitkat phone to work on a 4.3 android install, and well, you know how that would go.

I'll experiment this and see if I can extract the phone apk from a nexus rom and attempt to run it on here.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
1. I don't want my statusbar changing colors because of its transparency. I much prefer for it to just hide (Full-screen mode).

2. Cool

3. That's true and Verizon/Google did promise the culmination of a joint project to come out sometime this year. This was announced around the Nexus 5 release. Another thing though. End of Nexus likely means end of Google subsidy.

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The biggest issue I have with 4.3 is my processor maxing out, which is why I asked for an Antutu score. I'm testing my phone now (I have CleanRom 8.2). 16330 on first run (below the original Antutu GS3 score). I'm running it again but it looks like it's gonna be a good bit lower than your 17364 (ok 16641 on second run). I'd probably get like 18000 on CM11. Lol.