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[Galaxy Note 3 General] tarny:
The only thing Im worried about flashing with another rom is the fact you can't go back and install the BTU rom when it comes out..I like to mess about with the phone don't get me wrong but then I want it stock and original. The other thing is My phone is unlocked to any network but im with EE and on contract with 4G and 4G is pretty quick in some areas for the internet and downloading on the go and im worried other roms like the Poland one or Germany one wont let me use 4G only 3G so there is no point paying for 4G when i can only use 3G..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] descb600f:
Tesco Mobile 4G is free ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] itsmix:
Kit Kat for the impatient

Hi to all on XDA note 3 UK,

I am resisting the rooting of this unit (for now anyway) so I gave this German latest release a run & every thing is rosy in the garden.......even for a Stock ROM.

I'm on the 3 network the usual holes in reception appear (I'm a mobile engineer covering the west of England down to the south coast so all networks turn out the same signal wise), 4G reception VGood where 3 have rolled it out.

So if you need that 'KITKAT' fix follow..........http://androidromupdate.com/2014/02...4-galaxy-note-3-sm-n9005-4-4-2-kitkat-update/ read, enjoy.

Don't forget once on KitKat always on KitKat the way back is blocked so I understand.

I'm still Knox 0x0 & all official.

If you get the dreaded 'FAILED' from Odin there are .pit files on the note three forums in the Q&A

Thanks HSD-Pilot for this ...........http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50614669&postcount=77

and to RixNox thanks (love the fresh prince clip) as this .......http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2662373 helped me realize it's not just me.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MentaLrz:
I updated my phone yesterday from 4.3 to 4.4 via the official push and it ruined my battery! Thankfully i got so annoyed that I rooted it and put CM11 on there and now it's much faster and better battery life.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Alex Atkin UK:
KitKat disables random access to the SD card for all apps other than the system apps. The idea is that they only are able to read/write to their own private directory in the android folder, nothing outside it. This only applies to physical SD cards, internal SD is unaffected (supposedly, I haven't checked myself yet).

You are still fine doing it when plugged into PC but that is the ONLY way you can move around files on an SD card without rooting your phone. So basically I need to move all my music into internal SD where I CAN move things around, and keep external SD just for recording photos/videos.

From what people are saying the Vodafone ROM uses the identical modem so it looks like it works with all frequencies the Note 3 supports - including the UK specific ones. I can certainly confirm it works on O2. Also you CAN flash back to BTU KitKat, you just can't flash back to Jelly Bean.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
If You have Root access and one customer recovery You can try the BTU from JB-4.3 from this THREAD flashing a Mod by recovery from post #2.

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Where is the BTU Kitkat?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Alex Atkin UK:
There isn't one yet, but you can flash between official KitKat ROMs at will so long as their CSC is compatible so flashing UK should not be a problem.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
My last time!

Kit Kat is here tomorrow, Tuesday,I have no idea if it will be here, but I'm running out off any positives, lol.

Has anyone else been put of by this delay?

Anyone else thinking of alternative future phones?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
Doesn't matter which none Nexus Android smartphone you buy in the UK, we always be last to get the updates, you can thank EE,O2,Vodafone & Three for this.

As mentioned only the Nexus smartphones will get any updates quick, which atm inc Motorola as the Moto G has had the Kitkat update for a couple of months now.

The only other options for fast updates is either Apple or Microsoft & Nokia.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] paul_59:
"The only other options for fast updates is either Apple or Microsoft & Nokia."

Aren't you forgetting the other option ?

This is xda after all, you can flash other versions of Kit Kat, indeed anyone on here waiting for BTU version, why?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
I'm not rooted because of sky go,

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But might just get my slingplayer to work and be five with it,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
I've been thinking of future phones since the realisation that Knox is a balls well before the slow rollout of 4.4.2

I'm thinking of switching to a Lumia 1520 for phablet & camera and maybe getting a 2nd hand nexus 5 16gb for up to date Android goodness and for Google play music.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
Yeah there is that option also, but tbh i rather wait for the BTU version, days of rooting and flashing custom roms are long since over for me just rather enjoy the phone as it is, spent to much time flashing and not enough using even bricked an HTC Sensation just for the fun of it, to see if HTC would repair it which they did with a 3 day turnaround. :D:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
I used to root years ago, but the note series battery and performance is so good there is no need, but I'm either going to root, or look at the nexus 6 and pray it's a 6 inch big screen, I use nova launcher anyway, so not bothered about any touchwiz features.

By the way, above saying nokia Lumia are you being serious?

Why, android is the best experience, it's just Samsung delaying these updates which is ruining this for now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
Android is just another OS for me. I don't do favorites. All of them have benefits and negatives.

I'm also not tied to Google services.

However Like I say I'll either pick up a nexus 5 as well or wait and see if the HTC one 2014 sorts out the god awful camera from the original.

I have tried the Lumia 1520 before and I thought the camera app was excellent.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] bradcooper1993:
4.4.2 KiKat

Guys you do know you can just flash the Poland 4.4.2 stock firmware and it will work just fine don't you? Only thing is it will lock your boot loader preventing you from flashing custom roms.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
Wrong.

It will lock your boot loader to 4.4.2. But it won't stop you flashing custom ROMs.

Don't blindly post...

Sent from my CM11 powered N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mo123456789:
I'm rooted and I've also tripped my knox counter in the process. But I'm still using touch wiz and the only reason is because of the camera. I have yet to find a custom ROM which offers the same camera quality as stock tw. If there was I would happily flash a 4.4.2 custom ROM and forget all about waiting for samsung to release kit kat. Unfortunately there isn't a custom ROM which offers the same camera quality as tw so I just have to sit and wait like everyone else......yawwwnn.......
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
The TW Based ROMS - Echoe/XNOTE/Crash/Alliance etc etc all use the stock camera... It's AOSP that uses a different camera, and remember the camera is actually the same, it doesn't change because of the ROM lmao, it's just the filters vary..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] martytarty:
Yeah I've not rooted my note 3 as I like skygo to be working, only thing I really miss about rooting is being able to increase the max volume default level, it just needs that little bit more on volume, apart from that the sound quality is decent.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Martytarty, are your saying you have rooted, and you can still use sky go?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] martytarty:
I was saying that I have not rooted my Note 3 this time as I like to watch skygo, if I root I lose skygo.

To be honest, I'm tempted to root not sure I care about tripping knox to be honest, long as I can mod my note 3, I can live without skygo tbh
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mulletmeister:
Been using XEO for a while now and I have had no problems with it, inc 4G. What I don't like is the 'restrictions' concerning SD card storage. I like to keep my stuff on the SD card and the 4.4.2 issue not allowing it is beyond me!

Those who have an itch that they need to scratch, go with the Polish rom. It works! Those who need information use the search facility!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Ok, yea that's why I haven't rooted, but seriously thinking about it,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mulletmeister:
I, too, am getting very itchy fingers! I have gone so far as to download everything I need....BUT......As a small taxi firm running two 9005's, I would be up the creek if anyone played hardball over the warranty side of things! If I'd known about the knox sooner, I would NEVER have bought something that I cannot set up how I want it!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] martytarty:
Isn't there a method of rooting without tripping knox?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Can't get the link, but this looks like a really easy way of rooting

(Haven't tried it myself so can't vouch for it)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
You will see the YouTube video
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
Use rootcloak via Xposed module to use apps that require non-rooted devices.

Sent from my CM11 powered N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
Got excited with your post. Just tried out and it dissent work. same old mage sky go dosen't work with rooted Android devices ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
It's probably not been updated to work alongside KK yet then, maybe poke the dev? - It was working fine on JB cause I had to use it for my bank app and Sky Go
[Galaxy Note 3 General] darkshizzle:
Thank you for contacting Samsung Customer Support.

In regards to your email, the KItkat update is currently being rolled out in countrie across Europe. It hasn't made it to the UK yet but we expect this to happen very soon.

The initial roll out may take a few weeks as only 1000 downloads of the update can be made at any one time. You can check for available updates for your device on its support page on our website or by connecting to Samsung KIES.

You can also get the latest news on software releases for our devices on the official Samsung UK Facebook page (facebook.com/SamsungUK) or our Twitter feed (twitter.com/SamsungUK).

Kind regards,

Stewart

Online Support Team

SAMSUNG Customer Support Centre
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
Anything new regards kitkat? Don't think so!

Thanks for the info about sky go rad...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] natsumi48:
May take few weeks???????????hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahha

FFS Samsung UK
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
Poped in to the Samsung Experience Store at Stratdord and they didn't know when the kitty would be let out for to use :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Mulletmeister:
Whilst on the subject of 4.4.2, as you are probably aware I run XEO, but....just lately (past day or two) I keep getting the damned shield / arrow in my notifications bar. I pulled the screen down and there are no notifications. I had a security update yesterday that I had no control over installing or not, but this 'shield' is bugging me. I don't have the knox software downloaded (and I refuse to!!), so is this an attempt to get it set up on my phone?? Sorry to sound cynical, but I just don't trust 'anyone', let alone Samsung.

Also, spoke to my mate who works for O2 and the knox issue seems to be having an effect on Samsung sales. He is aware of the knox thing, but at no point are staff told to inform you of it. I also raised the question about not being able to see the Samsung warranty card before the box is opened, again there is no direction for staff. And, yes, I questioned him again about 4.4.2 either O2 or BTU and got a :confused: look!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] carols:
get it right it has made it to the UK but only on vodafone :p:p:p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xsiv74:
hello guys. I have decided to go and put 4.4.2 polish version to my BTU note 3 because I am tired of waiting...I am curious to try the kitkat. I wanted to ask if I flash the original polish version will my csc change? and do I need to wipe everything and istall it again?The reason I ask about the csc is that I use the stock keyboard in Greek even though I bought the phone from UK and I wonder if i put the polish version will that affect the stock keyboard? Thank you for your time...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
The Multi-CSC from Poland XEO Rom not have BTU. After You must stay whit XEO.

But, if You have root access and one customer recovery You can try my Mods to flash CSC's by Recovery. Have it here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2666907

You have the BTU from JB-4.3 to try on 4.4.2 if You want. Not tested.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xsiv74:
Thank you for your time and effort. But the truth is that I don't want to root my phone at this point of time. ..maybe I will just flash the Polish and when the BTU comes up I will flash it again. ..but what do you mean by saying " I must stay with xeo?"

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
There are many people waiting by BTU. You must stay whit XEO it mean that if You flash one Rom from Poland XEO, France XEF or SEE the CSC installed by default is XEO from Poland. (XEF and SEE whit XEO, may be error Samsung!!!).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xsiv74:
That's what I thought. Thank you for your time again.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
Lol Samsung are really taking the P out of us lot in the UK they just released another update for the German Note 3 N9005XXUENB7, so they now had 2 and we had ........................................................None yet. :crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] descb600f:
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No what's taking the P is that the UK release is obviously ready because Vodafone have released their version of it. It is actually being witheld.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
Yip just looking on Sammobile, a few more countries have got the updated version aswell.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
We have a Rom UK whit BTU when the CSC are N9005OXA... a Multi-csc whit it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] @home:
Is Poland & UK the only one's with CSC are N9005OXA?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
One is OXX other is OXA

Sent from my CM11 powered N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] skanj:
Hi there,will i lose HD voice with my EE note 3 if i flash with the latest polish or german firmware?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
OXA usually have BTU, ITV from Italy and some other Countries from Europe not included on OXX.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
No news sorry, just wondering if anyone rooted yesterday?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
Possibly yes, depends how EE route it through the device. Modem or software based. No idea about HD Voice myself.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Alex Atkin UK:
Pretty sure its a modem feature, a core feature of the phone at that, so I see no reason why it would stop working.

From the little I head read though, its pretty hit and miss if it even works in the first place though. Never experienced it myself as I have no clue if O2 support and nobody I call has a new enough phone.

Does it work for mobile to landline calls? That would be the biggest improvement IMO.

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I don't think you are correct as everything I have read says if you are on a phone with a BTU CSC then you can only flash either a BTU firmware or a multi-CSC firmware. The logical reason for that being that your phone is LOCKED to the BTU CSC and so the ROM CAN'T change the CSC, which is obviously to stop you flashing a ROM with an incompatible CSC.

So on the Poland ROM you should still be using the BTU CSC and likewise should be able to flash back to a BTU firmware without issue.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
What is LOCKED to the BTU???

I don't understad....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Alex Atkin UK:
As I understand it:

The CSC is set according to which region the phone was designed to be used in, as the CSC is what contains the data telling your phone how to function on that regions networks.

When you flash a ROM, the CSC region (in my case BTU) does not change as your phone will refuse to flash any ROM that does not support your CSC region. However, there is such a thing as a multi-CSC ROM like the Poland ROM, which contains CSC data for ALL networks (or at least all European ones). When you flash that ROM it uses the CSC data from that ROM according to your current CSC region.

What some people seem to be getting confused about is that flashing a new ROM may change your CSC VERSION. (what displays when you dial *#1234#) All that means is the ROM you flashed contained a newer version of the CSC data for your region than what you had before.

It may however be that the official BTU ROM will have an even newer version of the CSC and/or modem driver, but unless there was a pretty major bug that broke something in your region its unlikely to make a notable difference.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Androidandy:
My wife's pink Note has updated last night. It is unlocked network free running on Vodafone. Mine is running Virgin still on 4.3
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
I knew I should have got the pink one! ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] basdaniel:
Kalimera file mou

There is no problem if you Flash the Polish original Rom.

You also don't need to wipe your phone.

I am Greek and I too have the btu note 3.

Flashed the b3 Polish room and it works like a charm. .. With stock Greek keyboard.

Actually the Polish version is better for us Greeks. ..

Ta leme.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] djrm:
http://www.sammobile.com/firmwares/3/?download=26345

UK (H3G) gets NA6? Huh
[Galaxy Note 3 General] drew071:
You are correct. The csc version doesn't change unless you carry out a factory reset. In this instance the csc will change to whatever is flashed on the phone.

I am running the latest xef flashed straight over the top of the kk poland rom which was flashed straight over btu jb. When I use open csc changer it shows that the phone itself ifs still BTU.

I know from the s3 days though that if I reset the phone the csc of xef in this instance will be taken by the phone and the way back would be to flash a btu rom and reset or use csc changer.

Hope this helps.

Drew
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xsiv74:
Good morning my greek friend. I have already flashed the Polish version and as you said it works like a charm. I didn't wipe anything although I kept a backup just in case. Thank you for your concern. I did it only for the updates. I was very satisfied with English one...

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] saquib:
Trying to follow the posts and confused (and worried!). Currently not rooted and knox not tripped (and don't really want to).

My device is UK unbranded. I flashed the polish 4.4.2 rom. Checked my CSC and it states;

Sales code: XEO

CSC Country: Poland

CSC Country ISO: PL

Will i be able to flash the official BTU 4.4.2 without tripping knox or rooting ? I am on Three network, so could I flash the just released 4.4.2 from three using odin ?

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xsiv74:
As long as you Flash stock rom, official in other words there is no problem with knox...

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] saquib:
Ok, tried to flash the Three UK KitKat over the top of the Poland KitKat and it fails. Now stuck in download.

Fails on hidden.img.ext4 with a Size error.

Will try to reflsh the Poland rom.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jonstatt:
That is weird. Although does anyone know any distinct differences between NA6 and NB4?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] saquib:
Just to summarise, tried to flash the Three KK rom on top of the Poland one, failed with a size error. Recovered the situation by flashing the Poland Kk rom again.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zomig:
Just out of interest what is the process to flash one of these UK 4.4.2's over the Poland 4.4.2 given the issues posted above ?

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
Carrier firmware has a slightly different size. You need to flash a PIT file along with the new firmware in order for for it to work
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zomig:
Thanks for the reply but where do you find these pit files ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gadjet:
Hi jonstatt.

I have just flashed the 3 version of 4.2.2 NA6, i.e. flashed from the german NB7 and I can say its definately smoother and feels quicker than the newer NB7 version? might be just me?

I did this as basically I wanted to see if I could get a better signal on my Note 3 as I work in Tewkesbury and it a crap signal here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] saquib:
Did you use a PIT file ? I cannot flash the Three rom coming from the Polish one, getting a size error.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
HIDDEN partition from different sizes

.

XEO, XEF, SEE Rom's from OXX csc have a hidden.img.ext4 = 8.441 KB

DBT Germany Rom's have a hidden.img.ext4 = 53.125 KB. Need to flash this Pit file also: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50614669&postcount=77

UK N9005VFGENA4 CSC Roms have a hidden.img.ext4 = 86.661 KB. Must be need a more biggest Hidden partition on a new Pit.file.

While You not have a biggest pit file to UK Rom's try flash the DBT pit file. May be it have size to UK HIDDEN partition.

The Note3's purchased on UK Carrier's must have already a big Hidden partition from the origin, it's the motif that some Member's from UK not have this error in ODIN:

system.img.ext4

modem.bin

cache.img.ext4

hidden.img.ext4

FAIL! (Size)

Try the DBT Pit file and give feedback.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] danmak89:
I'm using an NB5 based ROM, but I have an unlocked device and I'm on Three's network. Would I notice anything different or is it even worth using the new NA6 firmware for Three? I mean I get good 4G coverage here in London and 3G is perfectly fine.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jonstatt:
How strange! So far, as expected, 4.2.2 has totally broken access to my Samsung AllCast Share Hub devices...hope that gets fixed soon. Did you get a better signal in Tewkesbury...my guess is it made no difference! LoL
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ValenteL:
PIT File UK Rom's. Help

Someone that have a Note3 N9005 purchased on a UK carrier like UK Vodafone or another, and have root access and can use the Terminal Emulator from Play Store. Please type this on it:

su -c 'dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 of=/sdcard/UK-N9005.pit bs=1 skip=17408 count=4244'

You have on internal Sdcard the file UK-N9005.pit. Attach it here, I want analyze whit the PIT Magic to see if is alright to use after on Rom's UK.

PS: This cmd dd is only to devices from 32 GB.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gadjet:
Hi all.

Yes I had to flash the PIT file to get the German NB7 version working from the second Poland ROM, the DBT details and PIT file here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50614669&postcount=77, then today I just flashed the new 3 ROM as standard no extra PIT file, hope that helps.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] denialnw10:
This must be a first...

All of the major UK networks have released their bloatware ridden versions of KK for the UK Note 3 before Samsung has released it's clean version to it's unlocked customers...

Doesn't make much sense
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dodgebizkit:
Carrier among in terms and conditions into their deals with popular oems to make it less tempting to leave contracts for full price unlock phones... I guess

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My other phone's a Ferrari.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
Just wondering why the thread for UK users is discussing firmwares for another region? If you worry about flashing firmware will affect your phone go the firmware thread. Keep this UK related matters or I just see this thread being deleted just like the previous two 'BTU' threads
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
I think to be honest, everyone on here is just so pi###d off, we all thought we would have it by now, there is just no sign of it,