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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nekromantik:
Yeah SoC upgrade will be worth it.

My only not sure area is as I already have a Asus TF300T (yes it is a slow hog) I can still use it for videos etc while at home fine. I just need something portable for trains so dont want to spend over £200 on that as already have 10" tab. So the fact that the N8 if made wont be same price as N7 at launch I doubt I can spend that much.

Thanks guys :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Deleted member 5163087:
Only thing that would be worth the wait in my opinion is if:

# they add a digitizer for pen input

# possibly a more efficient battery (not necessarily bigger)

# 64 bit chip with the necessary RAM upgrades to see the actual boosts in performance

The Nexus 7 2013 still flies as it is. I doubt there will be pen input and 64 bit tablets at the moment still only see around 2 GB of RAM.

I'd go with the Nexus 7. Just my 2 ¢ents!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nekromantik:
I bought it :)

£179 for a N7 is good I think. Doubt N8 will drop to that price less then a year of release!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Caelrie:
If the next nexus is made by ASUS, I'm not buying it. I'll switch to LG or Samsung. Both my nexus 7s from 2012 and 2013 have had frustrating touch screen issues that eventually make me not want to use them for anything but reading books.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] swisstourist:
Which one u bought. ?16g?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nekromantik:
Yes.

Kinda wish I spent extra 25 for 32gb.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] md1008:
I personally love the form factor of the N7. I use this on the go sometimes. The form factor is small enough I slip this into pocket and use it like I would a phablet(minus calling and SMS) these days hangouts and Facebook suffice. I tether my N5 to this bad boy since I have free 2.5 of tethering
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] brooksyx:
I was planning on waiting but I got such a good deal on a Nexus 7 32gb last week that I couldn't pass it up ($115 for a open box 32gb one). I might consider switching to the Nexus 8 if the specs are nice enough though.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ritchea:
...at which time you could sell N7 FHD for $100. easily.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] brooksyx:
I would imagine that a gently used 32gb Nexus 7 2nd gen would sell for more than $100 even after the Nexus 8 is announced.

But anyways, yes you make a valid point and that is what I was suggesting in my prior post. Very interested to see nexus 8 though. I will probably be content though.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ritchea:
Agreed. After returning N7 fhd in July, got a much better one in Nov. but still interested in the N8 if, indeed, one comes to fruition.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Hotshot205:
I was thinking the same thing but I'm just going to get a nexus 7 2013 now and worry about the 8 later if it is indeed a beast in specs and good price point.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] maidangisme:
Nexus 8 interesting but depend who will manufacturing this Model, I had enough with sh*t Asus.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] draztikrhymez:
I was thinking about the same thing but grabbed the Nexus 7. I really like it a lot and it's amazing how much faster it is than the previous Nexus 7. I only got the 16GB but it's more than enough for me.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] zhtlancer:
R U sure there is still N8?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] GenieLeo:
nice choice, 16GB is enough if you are not playing too much game or apps, music.

I am using 16GB too and i am glad w it
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] just lou:
Still just a rumor, but most expect a new N10 and a N8.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] ThatFrigginAzn:
Get the nexus 7. 2014 is the year of diminishing returns in high end tech.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nekromantik:
I regret getting 16gb. Want multi rom with Kali Linux but it's not enough. So gotta use USB otg which is slow.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] imzzz:
Hopefully Asus will make the Nexus 8. They can make some quality hardware when they put their mind to it.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gadget069:
This was the thread I was looking for. I was thinking about getting a nexus 7 32gb, I tried both of the Wally worlds in my area and both have been sold out since Christmas, makes me think the N8 is on the horizon. The kids tore up the tf101, its relegated to netflix and some games, daddy needs his own toy.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
The Nexus 7 has grounding issues with it's digitizer making some inputs no recognize. It isn't a huge deal but enough to piss me off when playing games. I had both gen N7s and it is a beast still. I primarily use it for streaming videos to my Chromecast or Roku at home and travel. I also use it for gaming. Controls make it pretty tough unless you use a gamepad. I'd died plenty of times because a touchscreen "button" stuck.

That said the N7 is a fantastic device. I know price is a factor but the LG G Pad 8.3" Google Play Edition is also pretty popular and comes with a microSD slot. They are basically the same SoC though. And the LG is almost $350 I think. NewEgg has it on sale for $250: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...25005&ef_id=UsWwswAABHcPICMa:20140314191055:s

I've heard LG might be making the next Nexus Tab. But Asus has been talked about a lot lately.

I've also heard that the new Nexus Tab will sport an Intel 64bit chip, which may or may not be a good thing for development. I particularly like the SnapDragon.

I can't see them making a 8.9" (~9") and a 10"... That is just retarded. Android also won't switch over to 4:3 either. Android is designed for 16:9. Even Apple is starting to drift over to the industry standard with their iPhone 5.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DigitalUnderground:
I'm a nexus 5 owner and I just went to tmo and got the 32gb LTE (idk if they all have radios or not) and I love it. Don't be afraid to catch it while the price is nice. You'll be happy with it until the 8 is a good price
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] joelbnyc:
Got 16GB N7 2013 recently love it much faster than 2012, and screen just rocks.

I prefer this form factor to iPad mini (which is what the N8 is supposed to replicate) anyway. More portable and easier to hold, and correct ratio for watching media, no bars on screen like w/ iPad mini / N8.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] md1008:
I don't think I could fit a 8 inch tab in my pocket so I unless the nexus 8 is that much better I doubt I will have any interest (if one does indeed come out)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] l344364737:
nexus 7（2013） is the best android tablet i used
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
Tides have changed for me. My son took my N7 for a dunk in the toilet. Didn't realize it, thinking it was just drained. I plugged her up and left it for 2 days. Its been in a bag of rice but still no signs of life. I took it apart and looks corroded.

Doing more research on the LG, the Google Play Edition would be the only option for me but it doesn't seem to be getting much love. Forums seem barren. The GPE is $350. The Standard LG edition is a reasonable $250 but software locked to 4.2.2. I'd rather but a N7 at that point. You can't convert a non-GPE into a GPE either like other devices can.

So this makes me think twice.

I love the idea of an 8" and so close to 2014 release of the next nexus tablet release. But I'm in a tough spot. N7 Just seems the clear winner now, even more so considering I have cases and screen protectors already here.

I wonder if Asus could repair it?
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] droidshadow:
don't wait...

I would not wait...

Everything is now becoming available for the Nexus 7 2013 WiFi/LTE. We now have Ubuntu Touch for the Nexus 7 FLO -> WiFi Only. The great guys at Pwnie Express have release their PwnPad 2014 CE ROM if you are interested in computer security.

There are many great ROM's now available for both versions of the Nexus 7 such as CyanogenMod, OmniROM, Paranoid ROM etc etc...

If you wait for the Nexus 8 and it is more expensive, then you are going to have to wait for someone to come up with a root exploit for it so that you can root your tablet then you are going to have to wait for the developers to develop a ROM for it and that can take quite some time.

We had to wait quite some time for Ubuntu Touch but finally it is here! (i just installed it last night on my N7 FLO tablet!)

My advice...go for it. The Nexus 7 2013 is very powerful, very smooth, very light, and is one of the greatest tablets i have ever used. I started off with 10" tablets such as the Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 10", then the Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1 and i thought i would never like a 7" tablet but they are great!

I am so impressed with the Nexus tablet that in April when i get an upgrade from my wireless provider I am going to get the Nexus 5 and then I am going to get the Nexus 10 tablet!

Trust me you will love your Nexus 7...

-droidshadow
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] player911:
Yea I don't really see any better options. I've thought alot about it and probably going to just buy another Nexus 7. Anything else is outdated already and I love the size. Don't think I'd ever buy another 10". 7-8 is a good size.

There hasn't been many strides in CPUs. I'd love an Snapdragon 800 8" tab but the "600" in the N7 is great even for next year.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] namhuy:
N7, the price is right, plus with lots of support ready if you want to tweak. N8 will be expensive since its new, plus you won't find any support/document since its so new

Nam Huy Linux http://namhuy.net
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jhall8:
Don't wait. My Nexus 7 is amazingly snappy with an incredible screen. Development is excellent for this device.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] erythrocytes:
Personally, I think 2 months of usage is a pretty significant time, considering the new Nexus tablet will probably be released in June. I think right now is still a good time to get N7. 179£ is a bit too much though. But that's UK, no wonder the price is 45% higher than in the US.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] muyoso:
Wait for the next iteration. The hardware on the Nexus 7 IS outdated. The leap between the Nexus 7 and the Nexus 5 with regards to performance is ENORMOUSLY noticeable. The next iteration of this tablet is going to be amazing. Not saying the Nexus 7 isn't great, but it's processor is simply not as good as the Snapdragon 800 and above and it shows when you use it next to a Nexus 5 or newer phone.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] oadam11:
Id say it depends on your personal uses. For example, I find the processor on my n7 just fine since I use it for videos, YouTube, Netflix, web browsing, and such. These processes aren't too CPU intensive so it runs great. And for my usage, it runs well compared to my lg g2 which has an snapdragon800. If you need more power, like for games or such, wait or if your a patient person lol. Otherwise, nexus 7 is always a great choice and I am loving the dev support

Sent from my Nexus 7 2013
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
The performance difference between Nexus 5's Snapdragon 800 and Nexus 7's lower binned Snapdragon 600 is essentially marginal and negligible. They are on the same die size.

Real performance gain will come from next die shrink.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] stealthj:
Trust me, wait, Nexus 7 2 has a s4 pro chipset. Wait until the next one, should be out in about 3-4 months
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Jhall8:
OK, I picked up an LG G2 since my prior post, and I'm changing my answer. LG G2 has the Snapdragon 800. I still love my Nexus 7, but I suggest that you wait for the new model. Benchmarks aren't everything, but check this out:
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] wild1z:
Get the 7 and enjoy it for 3-4 months. Then flip the 7 for the 8. ;)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] muyoso:
Have you used a Nexus 7 next to a Nexus 5. There is nothing marginal about it. The Nexus 5 is SIGNIFICANTLY faster with no where near the amount of lags and hiccups that the Nexus 7 has constantly.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
1st of all the Nexus 7 FHD technically has a lower clocked Snapdragon 600. All the latest and greatest Qualcomm SoC are just evolution and higher clocked Snapdragon S4 Pro anyway. The biggest performance gain is on the radio side which is meaningless for those of us using WiFi only tablet.

Yes I have both Nexus 7 and Nexus 5 and no there is no "significant lag" on the 7. They perform roughly equal for everyday use. In fact the Nexus 7 is a much better experience for me due to the much better screen. Is there is performance difference? Of course, but it is legligible at best. I would hate for some potential buyer to shy away from the Nexus 7 because of some dramatic opinion. I saw the Nexus 7 is now $189 at Staples. Trust me the latest and greatest Galaxy Pro 8.4 is still more laggy then the Nexus 7.

The next Nexus tablet will definitely be better. However the current Nexus 7 is arguably a rarity that holds its own over time. There is no guarantee the next tablet will have a better screen either which is vastly important for a tablet.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] conan1600:
I would disagree with this. I have a few s4 and sd600 devices as well as 2 sd 800 devices. The sd 800 devices perform markedly better than the sd 600 and s4 pro devices. in games, browsing, and all general use the sd 800 is snappier. Also it performs much better in all benchmark tests. Also you should know that the gpu architecture on the s4 and sd 800 are quite different. As for the 8.4 being laggy it is, or rather was before using apex or nova launcher. Buying a nexus 7 2013 myself I found stock laggy. I rooted and clean romed it and have a custom kernel installed and now it is a very nice, reliable product. Same with the pro tab 8.4. After exposed and root and disabling capacitive buttons it performs much better than the nexus 7 in my humble but educated opinion.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] muyoso:
Thankfully I'm not the only one that has noticed this. Not saying the Nexus 7 is a bad product in any way, just that the next nexus tablet is going to have an SoC that absolutely blows it out of the water with regards to smoothness and performance. The Nexus 7 was noticeably slower and choppier than the Nexus 5 which was released only a few months later. A tablet released a full year after the nexus 7 will be am enormous leap, especially if it uses the Snapdragon 805 or an Intel processor.

That is also not to mention the touch screen issues of the nexus 7. . . . .
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] openwheelracing:
Well we just have to agree to disagree. My Nexus 7 definitely outperforms the S4 and Note 3 which I currently still use. "Laggy" is not a WOR I would use to describe Nexus 7. Quite the opposite since I feel it is one of the smoothest Android device available.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] frigidazzi:
I know the op got his nexus already, but I have to agree with the guy saying the speed difference between the n5 and n7 is minimal. I can't speak for gaming, but for other general use I can't tell much of a difference. Maybe I was just so used to the old nexus 7 lag that this one feels faster than it really is. Idk. I guess I oc it with franco kernel, but I doubt the 200mhz would make much of a difference.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gaara6775:
nexus 7 2013 or Tegra Note?

I'm really confused which one to choose. in my country Tegra Note costs - 14,500 (16gb) , N7 -18,000(16gb), N7- 21,000 (32gb) .

cost difference is huge.

my basic use will be - YouTube,surfing, Gaming gaming gaming.

I already own N7 2012 16gb,not satisfied with current high end games as they run very poor.

But what I have seen is,Tegra Note's gaming is superior to N7 fhd, it runs GTA vice city,SA smooth like butter compare to N7 .

secondly it has SD slot up to 32gb. It does have 1gb ram only compare to 2gb of n7. but there is not much development for the tegra note and I heard after the 4.4.2 update its not detecting SD or we can't move apps to SD .

so is the n7 worth it to buy it over the Tegra note?

does it support otg & Xbox 360 controller out of the box?

(hate to say but xbox 360 250gb is available at 19,000 ,dyum its cheaper than n7 32gb )
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gautampw:
Not going to suggest anything as it is going to be biased as I own n7, but all Rock star games on Android are having frame rate cap. Tegra note won't give any superior performance because both will run them at only 25fps
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gaara6775:
no mate. I read a lot rock star games are well optimized for tegra 4 n it runs well on nvidia shield or tegra note better than n7(saw many videos on YouTube as well), so I'm having double thoughts on n7 :(
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gautampw:
YouTube videos are capped at 30fps. Trust me, gta San Andreas is capped at 25fps. You can't compare.

And btw one more point in favor of n7, did you read the news that NVidea are now shifting their focus away from phone/tablet chips
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] gaara6775:
for snapdragon its capped not for tegra 4, I mean tegra 4 plays it pretty smooth.you can take a look at those videos,I'm not denying n7 is bad but just when I found out tegra notes performance im inclined towards it.

yea I read, their CEO has said they won't be inclined only towards making smart phones /tablets soc. actually no one is buying their soc so I guess their sales must be poor so they thinking to not concentrate much on that. but I would like to see how tegra k1 performs. I don't think they'll give up on this so easily ,I mean who wastes millions on r&d and show no results.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rh1190:
Hi all,

I have an unlocked Xperia Z1 on unbranded software version 14.2.A.0.290, using it in the UK on a 4G network.

When I try to select LTE/4G in the network mode menu, the only options I have are:

WCDMA only

GSM only

WCDMA (Preferred)/GSM

As far as I can see online, I should have this option, as there shouldn't be a carrier block on unbranded firmware.

If anyone has any suggestions on how I can turn 4G on, I would be eternally grateful!

Thanks!
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eclyptos:
Update to .136 first and check again.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Tquetski:
// Galaxy S4 Sprint

// Android 4.2.2

// Current Version [ 4.3.7 ]

// All Languages

MIUIv5 4.2.14 Download

3-10-2014: MIUI v5 4.3.7

Working:

- Everything

- MIUI Camera

MIUI General FAQ

Q: How do I root this?

A: Enable root in the perm manager, which can be found in the security folder.

Q: Why is G-Apps not listed for Download?

A: Too Bloaty, add a Google account and install the play store as an APK, I suggest using Aptoide to find it.

Q: 4G LTE isn't working

A: Load the Phone, dial *#*#4636#*#*, goto Phone information, Set preferred network type to LTE/CDMA auto (PRL).

Q: Help! Phone/SystemUI/Keyboard Isn't working/Is Force Closing!

A: Make sure to do a completely clean wipe, also I'm not sure how well this will work if flashed in CWM.

Q: The Browser looks terrible.

A: Settings -> Advanced -> User agent string -> MiOne (It Renders much better & more naturally!)

Q: My Filesystems won't mount/My PC can't see my device/My phone won't act as a MTP/USB Mounting isn't working!

A: Settings -> Developer Options -> Enable Development / USB Debugging (switch both to on)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Blaze611:
I'm getting a problem with having an invisible lockscreen, it works but there is just nothing there.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Rally187:
are you using a custom theme? If you are not trying applying a theme. you can get some from here http://en.miui.com/thread-14216-1-1.html

I had the same issue once but applying a theme brought it back to normal.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] daniel4653:
Question: what's the difference between this rom download and this one. http://en.miui.com/download-112.html
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Rally187:
i looked into it earlier i believe its the same just uploaded somewhere else correct?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Tquetski:
No, my rom has nothing to do with 2699462's.

I am Tquetski not 2699462, It's a different person and this is a different ROM entirely.

This is not a repost of someone elses work lol
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Tquetski:
Idk, I'm not that guy but there is prob. not too huge of a difference since they both seem to be AOSP base.

I don't know why his is as heavy as mine, the KB+ Translation files account for most of this files size and outside of that it's pretty clean (no weird code or custom APKs)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Parkourkid93:
After Flash Report

Okay flashed this morning, because i fell asleep while formatting my data in recovery last night (huge fail) lol.

Haven't seen much reports on this rom, so i decided to flash & do it myself.

But anyway, so far on first flash, no problems what so ever, booted up normally & quickly, no force closures besides one (as far as i know), nothing major tho, just when you enable the 'smiley' button on the Xperia keyboard, the keyboard force closes, no biggie at all, us android users can easily switch key boards :-p.

Another few UI issues i ran into (again nothing major), i guess a little glitch, the weather icon & calender icons are invisible, not 100%, you can see the shadows, but the icon design itself is missing, also the invisible lockscreen which was already mentioned, these icon & lockscreen issues are easily fixed by applying a theme, another thing, when setting a wallpaper, the alignment was way off, was easily fixed with a reboot tho, not sure if applying a theme also fixed it, but it works regardless with no effort.

Mms works, but i had to do a simple APN edit, honestly haven't checked if the APN settings that came with the ROM works, haven't tested it because i usually use this one specific edit for any MIUI Rom i flash.

Besides that, the Rom has been working flawless for me atleast, also not sure about battery life, when i woke up, my phone was dead due to falling asleep in recovery at 4%, so i will report back on that & any other issues if i run into.

To the dev, great job on the Rom, MIUI can be a pain to most when porting :-p.

To the users, all issues I've reported so far shouldn't discourage you from flashing the Rom, pretty much one time issues, so no doubt flash away :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] xxxicu812:
Could you please post your apn edit for us?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] xxxicu812:
Q: Why is G-Apps not listed for Download?

A: Too Bloaty, add a Google account and install the play store as an APK, I suggest using Aptoide to find it.

Google Account isn't listed as an option to add.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Parkourkid93:
Miui usually comes with its own core apks I believe, no need to flash gapps & for the APN edits, go to your APN settings, you should see 4 APN saved, edit any one of the last 2, for the name, put Sprint, for the APN edit under name, I use cinet.spcs then go down to MMSC, click on it and don't erase anything, just add "/servlets/mms" (no quotes) , save it, click on it, reboot & lemme know if it works, honestly, I think it was a trial so keep trying, also mess with the *#*# 4636#*#* menu & see if you get lucky
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] countryteazer:
Well done on this. Hope your builds continue as the other MIUI roms will not work on the latest version of Philz recovery
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Parkourkid93:
I think the MIUI base is pretty much to outdated for Philz, i mean come one, its 4.2.2 :p, CWM & TWRP flashes it flawlessly tho, so no big deal :)
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Tquetski:
The S4 Sprint is the quiet crowd; over here it's not too noisy.

I am updating this in a few hours with substantially huge updates. MIUI software camera is functional now so people who like this kind of thing will enjoy it
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] ross4747:
awesome job on this, runs smooth, all apps seems to be working, haven't had any force closes and GPS is working. i would say nice daily driver if you like MIUI alot.
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] Tquetski:
Beantownnn
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S 4 Android Development] xxxicu812:
No problems here...

I love this this freaking ROM!!!

Thank you for your work!