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[Galaxy S III General] Moster2:
Htc and sony devices from the same time as the s3 didnt get kitkat updates either, some not even 4.3 jelly bean. So, get your facts straight.

Also, bringing iphone into the discussion is stupid. They have a different structure behind software updates and phone releases.
[Galaxy S III General] ayoubij:
Hahahhahahahahhaa ok
[Galaxy S III General] blackcat67:
Samsung galaxy s3 kitkat update coming son and galaxy s3 eol Kitkat update will most likely add knox i9305 kitkat update next week i9300 kitkat update end of month and june no source possibility
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
There will be no KK for I9300. All trusted sources and Samsung Mobile Facebook pages claims that. [MENTION=1828342]Faryaab[/MENTION] says there is test builds for I9305 but there isn't any test builds for I9300, so no KK for I9300. Also If you ask Samsung Mobile France on Facebook, they says KK for I9305 coming soon but KK for I9300 'we're not planning any updates' says. Samsung has officially confirmed KK will be only for 4G (2GB) models in Facebook posts. Yes, they aren't saying no KK for I9300, but they says no plan on it. There is no hope.

KK will be released for I9305 by next week. NOT FOR I9300
[Galaxy S III General] blackcat67:
big probability i9300 kitkat coming june :)
[Galaxy S III General] Iqbal Ansari:
Please dont post without reliable sources.

We all know that there is a probability of kk being released for s3.

If samsung will not release kk then they should confirm it so we dont wait.
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
Test builds comes 2-3 months before user available release. Date is May and there isn't test builds. If KK will hit I9300, it should be in JULY OR AUGUST

June... IMPOSSIBLE

Also a month before S4's KK release, S4 users asked Samsung 'when our devices will be upgraded KK' on Facebook. Samsung said 'we are working on it'.

We asked for I9300, they says 'no plan'. They doesn't say no specific date for update, no plan they says. NO PLAN is NO KITKAT
[Galaxy S III General] bhbmkii:
I don't think Samsung will skip the update for the I9300 . I don't know where you did read that it is only for devices with 2gb of ram and if samaung didn't update the i9300 so what ? It have passed the 18 month update cycle and also any great developer can port the update to our i9300 from I9305 (if it got the update) ot from note 2 as soon as the kernel source os available and also no one has seen a test builds for I9305 nor note 2 I think
[Galaxy S III General] Svartsyn333:
Don't be silly, sprint version rolled out one week after releasing kernel sources and test build.

Sent from my ? using my ?.
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
Just check [MENTION=1828342]Faryaab[/MENTION] tweets, he said monts before N7100, I9305, I9500, I9505, N900, N9005, N750, N7505 KK test builds are on Samsung servers for testing for only developers. (He leaks test builds from this database).

I asked him I9300, he says I didn't see any KK test builds. I asked 2 week ago, he says still no test builds for I9300
[Galaxy S III General] xda_Noob.:
I personaly give up hopes....

Since they are no leaks or even test builds. Well in middle april i though diffrent but seems that we will suck at 4.3.

I personaly want kit kat to port s5 apps.

4.3 Runs great to me even unrooted. So if kit kat arrives it is great for devs. (to port s5 apps).

but orthonormal user will not effect anything. no changes at ui (apart of white icons and transparent statusbar).

Maybe phone will run smoother. but for me 4.3 it smooth enough if you dont install any crap
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
Are you believing Samsung complete KK for Sprint in just 1 weeks?

Mate, kernel source is final step for developing and releases 1 weeks before user available firmware.

Testing started 2 month ago, when samsung USA announced KK for Galaxy devices.
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
I think you didn't understand mean of test build. Test builds isn't leaks or stable firmwares. Test builds has a lot of bugs, and needs testing/fixing by developers. If test builds reaches stable, Samsung releases kernel source and firmware. (If it is nearly stable and has little bugs, leakers leaks these test builds.)
[Galaxy S III General] blackcat67:
I hope that comes kitkat i9300 :/ Let us pray
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
I am I9300 user like you. And I want KitKat, yes. But I am reality man, there will be NO KitKat for I9300, I know it.

Don't make yourself sad/angry by beliving untrusted sources. Agree it, no KitKat :/

Also I think there will be no updates. There isn't new changelist since March. It happened when S2 reach EOL, like S3 reaches EOL now

Android 4.3 is stable and fast for me and no need for new 4.3 update. Maybe Samsung changes their mind and decides to update I9300 for last time. Or I9300XXUGNB6 is the most stable and newest (by changelist) firmeare for us and last firmware.
[Galaxy S III General] aasimkhan30:
Yes I totally agree with you

Since all the 4.3 firmwares are now stable samsung wont waste time by developing another android version of i9300 and keep solving the bugs.
[Galaxy S III General] Curst:
I saw a picture today and thought it summarises the posters this tread perfectly:

Tapped with Tapatalk on my GT-I9300 running rooted and debloated stock 4.3.
[Galaxy S III General] xda_Noob.:
Think time to close thread.. it doesnt make sense to discuss about it since we dont know anything.

EDITUnsubcribed ...
[Galaxy S III General] blackcat67:
two months have passed out samsung was testing march and test don't stable
[Galaxy S III General] Curst:
But then again this thread keeps all the rumours and wish thinking in one thread instead of everybody making new ones as soon as new speculations show up

Tapped with Tapatalk on my GT-I9300 running rooted and debloated stock 4.3.

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I thought we agreed on that the Facebook reps have no clue what they are taking about.

Tapped with Tapatalk on my GT-I9300 running rooted and debloated stock 4.3.
[Galaxy S III General] xda_Noob.:
You are right.

Please guys than keep this thread clean please. Dont post any crap that you hear or read. If you post something please give us sources.

Thank you
[Galaxy S III General] brkas:
Just to feed blackcat:

Sammobile Link

Read the part after "Update:" very carefully.

If its too long to read for you, here is the denial from Samsung Arabia "1" day after:

https://twitter.com/retrohaq/status/445872766281990144

blackcat, please stop posting links to old blog posts from various sites which don't give any source for their gossip.

edit:

P.S.: What makes me think is the fact that many other phones (GS2 for example) got some sort of "Feature Pack" (I think that was the name for that) - last update. So I think the GS3 gets at least another update of some sort, even if it is 4.3
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
Last proof from me: IT'S CLEAR AND NO NEED ANY LEAKS OR ETC

First one: 'We don't have any information about KitKat for I9300 (3G)

Second one: 'We can confirm GS3 4G (I9305) will be updated soon but no specific date.

I have read clearly 'I9305 update soon' this morning but couldn't find now, need laptop
[Galaxy S III General] eskorpiao112:
I will make that too :/. Bye guys
[Galaxy S III General] ShonkUK:
If 9305 is getting kk then i see no need to worry

it can be ported over to the 9300 with ease
[Galaxy S III General] AssassinGEO:
Lol,haven't even subscribed to this thread,just reading new posts.

Good bye.
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
It will be unstable. 9305 firmware creates for 2 GB RAM. We can change RAM blocks of kernel. But system want to use much ram. 9305 RAM usage 800 MB on kitkat at normal usage. S3 has 830 MB available RAM. Yes, it will work but will be unstable. Apps optimized for 2GB RAM
[Galaxy S III General] ShonkUK:
Its call a memory threshold and would be just fine

the i9305 just preloads lots more apps incase you use them due to having more available ram

the i9305 and i9300 firmware are almost identical with just a tad more bloat on the i9305

e.g. loads of knox related apps ripp them out and all is good (which is simple)
[Galaxy S III General] aasimkhan30:
I have a 1gb laptop ram eating dust

Can i use it on my s3

Will it improve my performance

And can i load i9305 firmwares on my s3

Since it will have 2gb ram
[Galaxy S III General] eupn11:
Not sure if trolling, or just stupid...

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[Galaxy S III General] XeLLaR*:
Yes.

Just take the Ram bar out of your laptop and glue it with some duckttape on the back of your phone. BUT ATTENTION: It will only work if the color of the duckttape matches the phone color!!!!

Gz

X

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[Galaxy S III General] Soryuu:
Well this thread blew up overnight didn't it?

Not sure if I should unsubscribe or not but to those still speculating and posted links with no sourced at all (hint androidgs and justaboutphones)...
[Galaxy S III General] Paresh Kalinani:
http://android.sc/android-4-4-2-kitkat-comes-for-all-the-samsung-galaxy-s3-devices-soon/ .........!
[Galaxy S III General] Curst:
All that evidence just made my day...

Tapped with Tapatalk on my GT-I9300 running rooted and debloated stock 4.3.
[Galaxy S III General] youssefhf:
Kitkat is coming Next week To Europe .... it will have Improved RAM management and White Status Bar ... it does not have too much :(
[Galaxy S III General] d1rekt0r:
Source ?
[Galaxy S III General] eupn11:
His dreams

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[Galaxy S III General] abhibnl:
Well i'm not keeping,high hopes on KK update but samsung should atleast provide a kernel update to 3.4 since all the new mid-end samsung devices too have 3.4 kernel. But since i'm no dev, i can't say if it'll provide any performance boost or not.
[Galaxy S III General] DaReDeViL:
Woah ! It's been a looong time I didn't read such a funny comment !!!! :thumbup: :D

Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9505
[Galaxy S III General] d1rekt0r:
I don't know if 3.4 kernel would provide any performance boost , but if they would give us nonretarded Mali sources we could have our HWC fixed on AOSP ROMs and have no need to use stock 4.3 or 4.4 , after that I'd never switch back to stock.

I'm kinda disappointed that [MENTION=5145944]GeeckoDev[/MENTION] stopped working on HWC, but one man can't do it alone I guess.
[Galaxy S III General] wizzbang3:
What is the big difference from 4.3 to 4.4.2 anyhow? Out of curiosity? What fundamental backend Android features will we notice?
[Galaxy S III General] sudoeste:
Immersive mode, support for camera hal v3, better memory management, new and simplified location settings, print support, native support for other messaging apps.

What a few more reasons?

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[Galaxy S III General] Soryuu:
Lockscreen camera shortcut, native transparency in apps (that support it) as well, emoji as well
[Galaxy S III General] wizzbang3:
Ok those seem like reasonable responses - and we believe this can all be done with the same or less memory than the existing 4.3? It's that well optomised?
[Galaxy S III General] suspect008:
Better memory management is absolutely needed

What is most important for me is better memeory management. ever since I updated to 4.3, I have serious ram management issues. If I played riptide and get a call or message, it loads from start. I cant have more than 2 tabs in opera browser, it reloads the pages again. so kitkat is absolutely need and I have not lost the hope we wont get it.
[Galaxy S III General] tmac31:
just debloat your rom 4.4 wont fix that alone. 400 mb free ram here.if you just gonna use everything stock samsung s kitkat wont help you they can even add more bloatware and make ram worse.
[Galaxy S III General] suspect008:
already debloated and greenified heavily even system apps. on Neat 7.5 with boeffla kernel, free ram always 200 or less in normal use. normal usage is smooth as it can be, just multitasking is broken. I dont mind but I have been on kitkat roms and I have seen how Nexus 4 behaves with kitkat, even NFS most wanted loaded and then press home button and check the ram usage, it wouldnt go beyond 550mb and game can be resumed to where it was and this is on stock nexus. I tried loading a lot apps and then pressing home and put them to background, still ram wont go beyond 600. thats what we want, not the samsung bloated firmware, its that we can cook better with samsung sources. specially updated Mali sources what we need.
[Galaxy S III General] tmac31:
Well im on arci 1.7.15 and free ram is around 350 allways. But on stock debloated rom i had 400-450 mb free ram its maybe im using nova launcher which uses less ram but its my ram usage generally.and i can multitask pretty good nfs mw 4 tabs on btowser and twiiter eithout any problem zram helps alot and everyrhing is fine for me.
[Galaxy S III General] suspect008:
Im thinking of moving on to archi too. I am a die hard Neat fan, so I always came back to Neat. however this ram management issue seems affecting me more than I think. and yep I achieved around 400 mb with stock debloating. anyway, hope you got my point with kitkat as I consider, its the major OS update to not all but most android issues like fragmentation, ram management, lag on dalvik VM etc. so right now, my last and best wish for our s3 is that we get kitkat. it doesnt matter it has few bugs here and there they can be iron out eventually. but updated mali sources and base source is whats important.
[Galaxy S III General] hwjrmrm:
Galaxy S3 Neo	GT-I9301I	ATO	I9301IXXUANC6	Android	4.4.2	21.03.2014	1036356

http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9301I

how about this S3? is it also 4412 CPU?
[Galaxy S III General] krGemini:
As per my little knowledge, this is not for our device.
[Galaxy S III General] Choristav:
CPU: 1.40GHz (Qualcomm MSM8255T)

this is what i found.
[Galaxy S III General] hwjrmrm:
:( sh1t
[Galaxy S III General] abhibnl:
Haha! And we all know that's never gonna happen. And i second that one man can't do it alone. Fixing HWC is a really big project.
[Galaxy S III General] GeeckoDev:
I'd like to prove you wrong...
[Galaxy S III General] gieffe22:
even the neo plus (i9301l) has started 4.4.2:

http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9301I

if i not wrong the neo PLUS use exynos soc...
[Galaxy S III General] bhbmkii:
http://animatedgamesitalia.myshopify.com/products/samsung-i9301-galaxy-s3-neo-16gb-blue-italia

It does

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I can't find any difference between the I9300 and the i9301 except for 0.5 gigs more ram on the i9301 so hopefully someone will port it
[Galaxy S III General] XeLLaR*:
It cant be....that chipset is a Snapdragon S2 singlecore. It would never be able to run kitkat.

The Neo has the same SoC as the GT-i9300 and features 1,5GB Ram!

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[Galaxy S III General] d1rekt0r:
Well , prove us wrong man :D its been months since you started working on HWC :D
[Galaxy S III General] ayoubij:
The truth is no one will be able to fix it.
[Galaxy S III General] iSaoHatake:
The main problem is, samsung don't release source code, this is way people blame samsung for exynos custom rom unsupported. I don't know if they can, but hardware is differently, when i say we can have features, it's because hardware support it, but without samsung help, no support to it.
[Galaxy S III General] Ricky Divjakovski:
i will give it a try, but its gonna be hard, weather it boots or not, is one thinng, how many bugs will it contain is another..

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because id love to experiment more with 4.4.2 and knox :)
[Galaxy S III General] T0nyCr:
A try it's more than nothing.
[Galaxy S III General] x92:
After I saw the twitter conversation in this article, I believe it is not rumor but fact.

http://www.gottabemobile.com/2014/02/20/samsung-galaxy-s3-android-4-4-kitkat-update-roadblock/

BUT the reason is ridiculous! did samsung just acknowledge their engineer could actually turn a OS that should be more memory efficient into a memory hogging system?? Everybody here knows that 1GB RAM is sufficient for Kitkat. HTC got a more realistic reason not to update their One X.

Some of you said that it's no surprise because S3 is a 2 year old device. But wasn't US version of S3 2 years old as well, why did they got the update? reallly because of RAM? go back to my previous point.

Some of you compare samsung to htc or any other android manufacturer in term of updates. Samsung is the world's biggest/largest android device manufacturer. was't it naturally for samsung to be more committed to software updating compared to other. Yet, right now they decided not to update one of the two 2012 flagship phone to kitkat. It's unfair because many of us actually choose S3 over note2.

Why some of us so angered by this news? Because S3 will be stuck on 4.3 forever, the worst major software update for S3! 4.3 update is flawed and obviously rushed. Battery drain, unstable, slow... not only S3 is affected by these problem, other samsung device that receive 4.3 update as well.

I guess those who are like samsung will continue to buy their product while some of us will be moving on to some other brands.
[Galaxy S III General] T0nyCr:
2GB rom to 1GB

If U.S.A. S3 models comes with 2GB ram, and it's expectable a KitKat rom to this devices, it could be most feasible migrate / export / fuse this rom to our 1GB ram models, I guess...
[Galaxy S III General] Ricky Divjakovski:
either way, gonna try my best!
[Galaxy S III General] kopukmelih:
i will buy apple phone. samsung finish for me

GT-I9300 cihazımdan Tapatalk kullanılarak gönderildi
[Galaxy S III General] SnowPluralism:
We will get kikat on march or april ...

Leaked internal documents said it a few weaks back.

So lest hope those documents were real deal :)

And even if samsung poland was saying the truth about S3 wont get kitkat its not the end of the world.

Phones will still work.

4.3 is not has bad as people made of it :)

And we will always have cyanogen mod ;)

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[Galaxy S III General] LancelotSA:
All threats to never buy Samsung again. I'm going to keep an eye on their market share and sales numbers with interest. My money is on them not being affected in the slightest.
[Galaxy S III General] LegendM:
If that's true

http://www.gsmarena.com/internation...i_not_getting_android_44_kitkat-news-7879.php

...

I'll never ever buy ANY KIND OF samsung products anymore.I really dont care about android update, it's all about trust

Android 4.4 uses less ram than 4.3 and samsung says that it's not enough with 1 gb ram?

F.. galaxy grand has 1 gb ram to .
[Galaxy S III General] d1rekt0r:
Honsestly i knew we wouldnt get KitKat due to ram long time ago...it would work like crap on our S3 with Samsung bloat and thats only 1 of the reasons.Other reasons for no KitKat>

1.They have Huge ammount of devices to maintain that are more important than S3 / New tablets / massive S4 versions

2.S5 Release and GOD knows how much versions of it

3.Marketing , even tho you think its bad for them only couple of us complain, 1% of user base , other 99% dont even know what android 4.4 is.

4.Working with OLD hardware , 4.4 is meant for 512 MB of ram , but still needs newer devices ..ofc AOSP android will work because its light as feather , but with any more carrier additions 4.4 still needs alot more RAM.

5.We alredy had our fair share of updates 4.1 and 4.2(we still count that those devs busted their asses on this) and 4.3.Not a single other OEM updates more than 2 times.

Anyways , thats how i see it , i put my hopes in [MENTION=5145944]GeeckoDev[/MENTION] and his HWC fixes , with that OMNI/CM > Stock all the way :laugh:
[Galaxy S III General] ballsofsteel:
Understandable considering that the i9300 was an underpowered phone to start with in the first place. Kit Kat is not any magical sorcery that will transform the S3, Samsung bloat will always out bloat the RAM savings, and considering android manages ram in such a stupid way (caching unused crap over what's running in the foreground/background of user apps).

Less of a problem with 2 and 3gb ram devices that Samsung releases now, but the S3 is doomed with 1GB ram.
[Galaxy S III General] goughymachine:
Personally I wouldn't care if I could be sure to get a stable camera (in particular video) and voice over bluetooth with cm, aokp or something. Not that I've tried them all, but they are the two things which will affect me the most. Otherwise I'd be off of samsung stock already.

Unless someone can tell me of a 4.4 rom that does have those features stable now? But the last time I tried voice search wasn't picking up my voice over bluetooth and I use it in my car and van a lot. And I just got sick of flashing different roms. Sometimes you just want a phone that works and does what you want...
[Galaxy S III General] AssassinGEO:
Galaxy Grand has 1gb and it's just stupid. Stop posting your theories. Kitkat would work flawlessy on GT-9300. They just want to forget that S3 because of new phones. As already described,it's an marketing strategy.
[Galaxy S III General] nexy33:
HTC tried that marketing strategy how did it go for their share prices
[Galaxy S III General] nomaj:
Support!
[Galaxy S III General] noskill01:
Hope you enjoy it haha

tap'n on i9300 . deltarom 4.3 v3.2. boeffla kernel v5.2 beta3
[Galaxy S III General] cool_b_return:
If samsung won't update S3 because of it's 1 gb ram so how they can update the stupid Galaxy Grand wich also have 1gb ram.

I think samsung will not update S3 to 4.4.2 to force S3 owners start thinking of S5.
[Galaxy S III General] kingtm:
To start thinking not for S5, but for LG G2 :D
[Galaxy S III General] sam145:
LG G2 is just awesome ..my next phone :D :heightfive:

"Envoyé depuis mon GT-I9300 avec Tapatalk"
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
No. It uses 1.2 GHz Quad Core Qualcomm chipset.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_i9300i_galaxy_s3_neo-6289.php
[Galaxy S III General] gieffe22:
IS IMPOSSIBLE...the neo use qualcomm, the neo plus use exynos!!!!! all other infos are WRONG

EDIT

the link is correct because this is i9300i!!!!!(i!!!!!!!!)... the s3 neo plus is i9301L(L!!!!!!!!)...so read before speak
[Galaxy S III General] XeLLaR*:
What you searched for is the GT-I9300i, the update is for the GT-i9301.

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[Galaxy S III General] bhbmkii:
I9301 specs( I've only found them here ) : http://animatedgameseurope.com/products/samsung-i9301-galaxy-s3-neo-16gb-white-italy

I9300i specs : http://www.phonearena.com/phones/Samsung-Galaxy-S3-Neo_id8584
[Galaxy S III General] Iqbal Ansari:
WTF!!!
[Galaxy S III General] dreadlord52:
I want to know why you are angry. It's just mistake man. I think you are very excited because of its exynos lol

I9300 update will not come. Ports will not be stable as 4.3. If you want ports go on.
[Galaxy S III General] mrstatler:
I have big fun from this thread. New religion was born ?

Jacek N3
[Galaxy S III General] Soryuu:
I'm only here for kicks as well. :P
[Galaxy S III General] krGemini:
Browsing through SamMobile and read this, just read the last sentence :)

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/03...pple-patents-will-pay-119-million-in-damages/
[Galaxy S III General] GeeckoDev:
There's only one missing piece, the framebuffer driver (s3cfb). It must be possible to backport it, at least for the Exynos 4412, because it works in the 3.4 Insignal kernel, but with a LCD panel. It is still unknown if it would work with the OLED panel included in the phones. If it doesn't, it must be possible to modify it, but there's zero documentation on it. For now, backporting the driver results in a bootloop, and it crashes so early that I can't have a serial debug output to have more information.
[Galaxy S III General] xizt1boy:
nope, s3 neo+ has exynos 4412 / + the fact it has 1.5 gb ram ;)
[Galaxy S III General] KyPbP:
I unpacked firmware from Neo +

Build.prop says he MSMxxxx figures do not remember.

Sorry for my English