yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Hi! Remember before all the WiFi calling don't work in any ROM, only stock. After say that, for what you said I recommend you slimkat, its 4.4.2 android and have the better battery life of all Roms (I get around 3,5 hours of screen on with a little battery remaining) with a great speed (and if some feature are missing you always can get Xposed). If you want speed and personalization option I recommend you try liquid or carbon, both are great Roms. I hope it helps you.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] kiboy6:
Hi yohan4ws and falle21. Thanks so much for your responses and so sorry for taking so long to get back to you. I finally got a chance to install custom ROMS on my phone yesterday.

I tried both versions of Slimkat that R3v3nt3ch posted here , but I found various problems with both out of the box. (Most noticeably that wifi would connect but not transfer any data).

I wanted to try Carbon, but could not find any working download links in this thread.

Finally I did some more research, and realised that CM 10.2 is widely considered one of the most stable ROMs for this device. Flashed stable 10.2 and the corresponding Gapps and everything is behaving very smoothly. (The only problem I have is that the phone will not show 4G or LTE for data connection - I don't know if this is because it simply considers the connection available where I live not to be 4G or LTE or whether there is actually a problem. In any case I am getting steady download speeds of around 1 Mbps so not too fussed).

So, all in all I'm pretty happy with the professional-grade stability I'm experiencing with CM 10.2 so far. However the battery life would probably be better with Carbon right? And also, all things being equal it would be nice to be running a KitKat based ROM.

So...

Is there a version of Carbon KK for my device available anywhere to download (with corresponding Gapps) that might offer similar stability? (And hopefully even better battery life).

Thanks so much if you can help - I hope to finalise my ROM decision in the next couple of days and then get stuck into using the phone without flashing any more :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Hi, the link in the op works fine to download the ROM
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] kiboy6:
I'm getting 404 not found when i click on the link? Anyway, r3v3nt3ch says that he plans to upload new versions of all his ROMs soon. Apparently Plain Andy may be my best bet :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] orange808:
FWIW, you will want to use the most up to date version of Android you can get your hands on. KitKat patched a series of very important security bugs. Additionally, the latest builds of custom roms have addressed some troubling issues that can bypass your chosen root manager application with a click event. You don't want just any application getting root; if that happens, you may as well be using Windows 95.

It's your decision, but you would be wise to run the latest version you can find.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
My personal experience, if you have wifi and bluetooth working together there's not really anything wrong with using 10.2, I think keyboard swype was the other issue in pre CM11 roms... I found I had more issues as I moved forward once Omnirom showed up, and had significant less battery life once I moved forward, I found this to be mostly due to a weather widget.

Install XPosed framework with Greenify on top of this or any other ROM and you'll find the battery life that you're looking for. IMO, KitKat just adds instant message popups and screen notifications taking over the screen in the middle of working on other tasks ... I'm working happily on slimkat 4.4.2 and everything is working, I do get lag once in a while when running clash of clans but I think it's due to the CPU/GPU clocking down if the phone hits a certain temperature, im sure i could adjust that by installing a new kernel but I just play clash on my tablet instead.

G'luck with your rom!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] kiboy6:
Thanks a lot yohan4ws. Giving omnitoad a try for now, but good to know that CM 10.2 might be a viable long term option should I need to revert to it.

Will definitely check out greenify. If you have time could you explain why Xposed is necessary alongside greenify (it seems to install happily enough without Xposed).

I also use Juicedefender to get really good battery life - any idea if there's any problem running Juicedefender and Greenify on the same device?

Thanks so much for you kind advice :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
I'm running greeenify and juice defender just fine.

Juice defender controls radio, greenify controls apps at your discretion and keeps them asleep until you want to use them, ie: Facebook, I don't need it open in the background all the time updating me with posts etc. I can open it manually to check, the Facebook app wontngive you the option where greenify will prevent it from running.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] kiboy6:
Ok cool, and thanks so much for the detailed explanation of what greenify does. Finally just curious why you suggested Xposed framework along with greenify? On the latest Omnitoad would greenify work just fine without Xposed framewrk too?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Snuzzo:
[MENTION=4936681]kiboy6[/MENTION]

Read up on what xposed is. Greenify is a module of Xposed frameworks. Without Xposed greenify would not function.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Suncatcher16:
What's the matter with the download link?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Snuzzo:
Working fine on my end.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Suncatcher16:
Yes, it works, but the link should be corrected. It contains unnecessary quotation marks in the end.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Suncatcher16:
Guys, have you ever such bug with the ROM camera app?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
I tried installing Carbon today, I had the same issue with camera .... tried wiping the app data, reboot etc. no go.

It worked when I first loaded up the ROM, installed my apps (recover from TI) and then this happened....

How did it occur for yoU ? The reason I changed up Roms from Slimkat is because the camera takes washed out photo's in that rom, was hoping for a fix. AOKP leaves keyboard on screen when physical opened ...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Suncatcher16:
The same way:

This ROM won't be fixed ever as Raventech said. Wait for Liquid Lollipop release.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
Sigh ...

I wish the camera was working in the kit kat roms optimally, I have no desire to change it up to lolipop if what we have works really well .... rumor has it it'll chew more battery on our already very legacy device...

The industry must give us a quad core qwerty slider...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] chuckiev79:
Our only hope for a quad core qwerty phone is ara.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Magamo:
As so far, Lollipop has been really good on my battery life with CM12 -- Just limit google services' access to keep the phone awake, and to wake it up, and you'll cut down on most of the big battery drain.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] chuckiev79:
What device? If you don't mind me asking.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Magamo:
apexqtmo, of course.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] chuckiev79:
Ok so you guys have cm12 builds running for the relay. Do you possibly have a link? Or are they not for public consumption.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Magamo:
We have not done a formalized release, though there are experimental builds available through our IRC channel.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Player-J:
I'd like to see that. I'm sure you'd have plenty of volunteers for testing. Throw us a link? :o
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] bde17:
the links are not working, please help
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Swordfish II:
Any one have a working link/files?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] jra166:
Still rockin' the Relay in 2018. Anyone have a working download link for the CarbonRom?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
as supported by snuzzo above an md5 is a set of particular numbers generated to match its corresponding file. say you downloaded it and the md5 text doesnt match that of the rom download than its an unsuccesful download.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] thinair11:
hey, how come im getting status 7 error while flashing? same thing with cm 11. cm 10.2 and 10.2.1 is fine, but not this rom or cm 11 :(
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] C3POID:
If I'm not mistaken you have to upgrade your CWM to 6.0.3.7 or higher.

SGH-T699 (Relay 4G) Talk with a little Tapa
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] thinair11:
well im upgrading from 10.2.1 and getting this error.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] C3POID:
Yep, I know. So?

I think I got this error two when I tried a dirty flash from CM10.x to CM11. Because my CWM was still on v.6.0.3.5 .

You what I'm talking about, eh?

SGH-T699 (Relay 4G) Talk with a little Tapa
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
10.2.1 is the version number of your ROM.

6.0.3.7 is the version number of CWM, which is the recovery module.

What recovery are you using?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] thinair11:
oh my bad, im on 6.0.1.2. where do i get new cwm? or which one do you suggest?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
In the OP is the link to the last supported cwm. With this works perfectly fine
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] thinair11:
ok i got recovery-clockwork-6.0.4.5-apexqtmo.img but to update i need zip...

EDIT: never mind, installed philz_touch_6.15.4-apexqtmo.zip which is 6.0.4.7 :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Here:

http://apicdn.viglink.com/api/click...ecovery-10.2-347.zip&loc=http://xdaforums.com
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] C3POID:
Yeah, found that too. I think I should upgrade my old v6.0.3.7 :D

Have fun with CM11

SGH-T699 (Relay 4G) Talk with a little Tapa
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
You can upgrade CWM also from the ClockworkMod app from play store. I also suggested to please not dirty flash from any rom other than Carbon rom itself. When coming from one rom to another you have a high possibility of carrying over issues from the other rom you were previously on.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I was going to jump in and recommend the PhilZ recovery until I saw that you already got it.

It's far better than the garden-variety CWM, and, IMHO, it's even better than TWRP. I highly recommend it.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
Agreed....it does run better than cwm anyday....to be honest though TWRP for this device needs some work...i do love twrp and themes i have made for it make it that much better. to also note TWRP on my htc rezound works better than any other recovery for it as there is ways on twrp to fix mount errors and such.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I couldn't even find a version of TWRP which runs on the T699. I have other devices on which I've used both a full-featured TWRP and PhilZ, and I still prefer the latter, although for me, it's more a matter of taste than functionality.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
very agreeable...each person has their right to opinions and not knocking any of them. they all are great recoveries in their own aspects

Edit: there is a version available but buried deep in threads and was made mid last year...not much development was ever done with it and never really saw the light of day for t699..
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] chuckiev79:
Please make the option to disable/hide the battery icon and also change color of signal icon. I was using the xblast tools exposed module but does not seem to work on this rom. Otherwise rom seems very promising!
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Snuzzo:
These are strict to what Carbon uses. That would turn the rom into a kang, which isn't the intention.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Never mind. I posted something here, which is the wrong forum, and I don't have the capability of deleting messages. All I can do is change them ... like this.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
its cool bud no worries
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] robuser007:
What's the difference between this rom and fattoad (both are cyanogenbased, right) ?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Snuzzo:
Quite a bit.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Magamo:
FatToad is in the end just a minorly tweaked CyanogenMod. CarbonROM looks to be a much more extensive project. I'd look at carbon's website for a bigger list of changes.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] alongenemylines:
Since this rom is based of CM11, would the kernel work for other CM11 roms? I'd love to try different kernels (reminds me of the G1 days).
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
the kernel from this differs from that used by TeamApexQ's and CyanogenMod. Drivers are updated as well as previously stated stuff.. we are working on a fully functioning flashable kernel thats compatible across the board... with the updated drivers and such its causing graphical tearing in other roms besides carbon.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
is there any way to make long press back button to kil the current app?

i cant find that setting anywhere..
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
this has been deprecated from alot of roms as you can hold down home and just swipe the app you ant to kill or kill all....ill see what i can do for you in one of the many new roms that will be coming this way by me

Edit: I believe i know exactly why swype force closes and will be in next build...should be uploaded by later tonight or sometime tomorrow (friday PST...for those in further areas)...also have done a few various other needed fixes
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] Sweet Peaches:
Hi there!

I came from the Chaos ROM which was smooth but not as smooth as this one however I do have one complaint about this ROM. It's the SMS limit thing, that's something I didn't have trouble with on Chaos, is there a way you can remove this limit in the next build that way after a certain number of texts or minutes I don't have to confirm whether or not I want to send the text? This is the only thing that's been annoying me, other than that it's a great ROM! :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I don't see the new ROM yet. The Feb. 16 version is still the latest one that appears here:

http://vp-zp.com/snuzzo/roms/carbonrom/apexqtmo/kk

Am I looking in the wrong place?

Then again, I'm on the east coast of the U.S. Is that considered to be one of those "further areas"? :)

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
no hasnt been uploaded yet...had a slight small issue in source i had to fix...will be up by tonight if all goes well and everything works perfect...i can confirm swype is fully fixed in build though....once i can confirm the last little annoyance is fixed ill be aiming for official status as only (LITERAL) bug is mhl which is obvious for a bug.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
OK, I'll be patient. :)

... and seriously, thank you for all your work.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
Great! I'll waiting for this
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
time and work does go into this so i highly appreciate the support and patience...id rather have a perfectly functioning build than the same one already here with slight updates to be honest...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
I rolled back to CM11, had issues with this one lagging out when switching between apps...
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
what was your setup....also do you kill any of your apps when not in use....excessive apps running in background can slow the phone down...theres also a setting in developer options to change as well so there arent constant background apps running....to be honest ive yet to run into this problem on the phone
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
I always kill the apps when I'm not using then, I longpress home key and clear them out on a regular basis.

I'll have to check that setting in dev options, would be a great battery saver.

Setup was using the Feb16 carbon, apex launcher, 3 email accounts w/ push a couple of other stay resident (a voip phone app being the only primary, whatsapp another facebook i guess..)

I wasn't using Juice Defender for the first bit as I wanted to get use to the ROM on its own.

Other things I didnt like were the pull down notification bar, couldn't get it to goto quick panels so getting there was a few keypresses, no longpress back to kill app,
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
the quick settings...theres the option in carbon fibers in settings for that and so you can set it up the way you want it....longpress to kill app backbutton has been deprecated for ALOT of roms on ALOT of devices...ill see what i can do though to add that back in...have you tried changing your governor and scheduler under performance....i use row or sio for scheduler and ondemand governor....this is also the big difference with my roms and all others for relay....and thats freedom of this...make sure min is set to 384mhz and for max...the higher you go the more battery drain youll have but better performance youll get...i usually just keep max where it is stock....to be honest if you get used to every nook and cranny with this rom its best for customizing it to work and look the way you want it....i use Hue White or Hue Red theme found here on xda with all sorts of various stuff set from carbon fibers and a few build.prop edits to match what i want
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
ok everyone thought id give you all a needed update...CarbonDev has changed quite a bit in their source that has broken alot on the rom...im gonna be doing some gerrit changes to bring it back....last build everything worked but no network at all....in the meantime while i try to get a working build ill make a flashable zip of the needed updates to rom for everything to work just perfect. again sorry for the delay....
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
MM11 in development options, waay down at the bottom is a checkbox to kill app by long pressing the back button.

Can anyone confirm if this is in carbon?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I'm running the current version of this Carbon ROM on my apexqtmo, and that option indeed exists within the Developer Options, exactly as you described.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] yohan4ws:
Thanks Hippo..

Now patiently waiting for next release :)
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Glad to help. yohan4ws.

Furthermore, if you have a rooted phone, you don't need to be concerned if the long-press-kill option gets left out of the next release. If that happens, just install the Xposed Installer, and from within that program, install Gravity Box [KK]. Then, within Gravity Box, you can select this:

Navigation keys actions -> BACK KEY -> Long-press action -> Kill foreground app

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
well next release will be in quite a bit...if i were to even continue developement at this point....my phone bricked so i have no phone to dev on for you guys anymore...tried debricking method but no luck so far. JTAG companies say all they can really do is get it to boot into download mode which i already have access to..but odin nor heimdall nor debrick files and method do not work....i could blind dev but cant guarantee any releases stability
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
Damn, that really sucks! Maybe we should all take up a collection to buy you another apexqtmo. I've seen used ones for as low as $100, or maybe even less.

What do you say, folks?

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
would be highly appreciated....cant buy anything else for awhile as im just 4 months away from my wife having a child...do have some priorities...everyone here if this is at all possible you have my word on returning the favor
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
I started the ball rolling with a donation right now. Just a few more people should get you to $100.

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
where did you get a relay for $100? i paid 200 for mine off of craigslist...and sweet...thanks for getting me started dude...you tha man
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] HippoMan:
There's one on this ebay page for $99.99: http://www.ebay.com/sch/items/?_nkw...udhi=&_sop=12&_fpos=&_fspt=1&_sadis=&LH_CAds=

... and another one there for $87.79.

PS: glad to help!

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[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
well im about 45 away from getting it

P.S. this just made my day...been a very rough week
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] chuckiev79:
How do I donate? i want to help.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
After you get your new phone send me your old one. I may be able to revive it.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
sure no problem...to state though i have done everything i believe thats known to possibly fix read all threads...if you have any insight please share...but until i can get enough in donations i wont have a relay at all...as again...i do have a baby i need to focus on at the moment
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
if your on a pc...i have a donate link under my username...goes through paypal...thanks bud appreciate it
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] :
Won't know until I look at it. Pm me for shipping info.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
[MENTION=2044079]Nardholio[/MENTION] just sent a pm...also went to go get stuff ready to build something and see your working on it too lol...we should work together
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
good news guys. I got Carbon to build again with the small exception of a small error im gonna fix...which is settings for launcher 3...working on it now
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
NEW BUILD IS UP!!!!! with new install instructions...for now please use CWM recovery only as its untested with any others as i do not have a relay until i can get up enough to get one... for launcher3 settings not working....google settings (i believe) arent found in our compatible gapps thus causing this issue (could be very wrong again as i dont have the device to test)...but easy to fix....to be honest though i use nova launcher found in playstore as it runs alot smoother than stock launcher3
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] aawillma:
Successful flash

Just wanted you to know I successfully flashed the latest build with TWRP (didn't read your recommendation until it was rebooting after the flash - oops). It appeared to have shut off or something during the reboot which freaked me out but I was able to power it on and it booted normally with all the "apps updating" and such. I didn't fully wipe, just cache and dalvik. Nothing to report yet, just wanted you to know it's running fine since you as of yet don't have a device to test it on, right?
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
thanks for letting me know it works but i do highly suggest a full clean install...the method posted in the Original post is known to be the best for the rom....this rom does differ in kernel and system from any other roms not made by me..."dirty flashing" as what your method is posted above can also cause bugs amongst other various issues friom prior rom...the source used for this rom also highly differs than the other sources so i expect some errors to ensue on your end
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] aawillma:
Noted. I was upgrading from the 2/16 Carbon build so I didn't think it would cause issues. As general practice I dirty flash if the ROM is the same, if/when I have issues I'll reflash with a clean wipe. I would never report bugs without a clean install first. Just wanted to let everyone know that there is at least 1 successful flash in the books since you can't test it yourself. Hopefully they are all smart enough to read the OP and not to follow my lazy example :o
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] falle21:
I have issues with apps doing a dirty flashing. Everything solve and works fine doing a clean install like say in the op. So, everyone with issues I recommend do a full wipe like say in the op and everything works fine.
[Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G] REV3NT3CH:
ah ok sweet....it is very good to know that dirty flash method works ok with you for now from the old build...main differences with this and last build is i used d2-common in old source where i rewrote d2lte to take its place as well as fixing swipe on the on screen keyboard...spent days doing all this too lol...also did various other small updates in source...if issues do come about do try clean install...any input from anyone is very helpful