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[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
The link is in the post, my good fellow.
[Nexus 5 General] Deleted member 4132771:
Man I wish I could just stare at a 5 inch screen for 7 hours a day.

Not.
[Nexus 5 General] Riekr:
I must admit that using lux from within llama allows me to refresh brightness on screen rotation too which is not bad at all at least.

Inviato dal mio Nexus 5 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] AlderCass:
Gotta agree. The vast majority of users charge overnight and with my own setup - currently on stock rom and stock kernel (though I'm currently bouncing between that and Franco to see which I prefer) with pretty much everything always on (NFC, WiFi, data, location access, though I disable notifications from the likes of Facebook, Twitter, etc. just because I'm not that invested in social networks that I'd want constant updates) I can get 3+ hours SOT - which I'd assume is more than enough for most people. Greenify is to thank for most of my battery savings.

But don't get me wrong - for those who do need more SOT than that, the OP is fantastic advice, and I'll be coming back to this thread when I'm on holiday etc. and won't be able to charge every night.
[Nexus 5 General] shilton.charles:
great tips :)

kuddos to the OP

very helpful tips...hotword detection remains off for me most the time

as i work in a noisy environment and hardly make use of it unless im relaxed in office/ home
[Nexus 5 General] Masteryates:
Agreed :good:
[Nexus 5 General] azlan96:
Done most of those, still getting only around 3.5 hours SOT
[Nexus 5 General] Enddo:
don't mind the haters. they're just mad that they only get 3 hours of screen on time and 10% battery drain per hour when deep sleeping

they would rather complain than take control of their device and if you dont use your own phone exactly like they use their phone, then they call foul and tell you that your results don't matter. they say the same thing to people that use their device like an ipod touch(by putting it in airplane mode).

haters will always hate
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
I think it's just really hard to get good auto brightness on this phone right now due to the sensor. Using Lux Lite didn't help me very much since I was bouncing between very low and extremely high brightness but I imagine the full version could be more useful.

Llama is an extremely light weight application and uses only 6MB of RAM, the lowest of any service I've seen. I think it could add to Android System drain but using Cell Tower locations and properly set up conditions I don't think it will by much.

Thanks for the supportive comments. I really just want to help and have no hidden agenda here. We've known for months now that the N5 can get 8.9 hours SoT web browsing on WiFi and 6.9 hours web browsing on LTE. Of course Anandtech used perfect, non-root conditions with airplane mode On, Gnow off and zero apps or widgets; something that even I am unwilling to put up with. We can still strive to get as close to those numbers as possible.

Two apps that can help you monitor your battery and phone with no root requirement:

Play Store Link.

Current Widget - Set to update manually on your home screen for minimal power draw. Check your charge and discharge rates along with battery temperature.

Play Store Link.

S Tools+ - This just popped up in the XDA apps section the other day. Detailed information on CPU states, Deep Sleep time and ALL your sensors, nicely graphed and very polished including transparent nav bar. Other than real time graphing of sensors this shouldn't be much of a drain.
[Nexus 5 General] reddragon72:
Generally speaking SOT depends on what you are doing.

I've been down this road and can get SOT times on any phone pushing 5 hours.

To say no loss of functionality is wrong. You state to kill half the apps that I use so that is a LOF to me.

The secret, well not really, is the brightness and network reception.

Turning down the brightness and getting max signal/bandwidth will affect the battery more than turning off apps. Remember the rule of thumb the longer the phone has to stay on for a wakelock the more the battery drains and that is SOT and sleep. What I mean is you'll drain your battery faster connected to a dialup internet connection than fiber at 1gig.... It's all about bandwidth and high signal strength and screen brightness.

Not hating just saying that no one person can say this will give you X number of hours of SOT when everyone's signal/bandwidth environment is different.
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
I state to force stop programs you don't need. Thus no lost functionality. Most people don't realize how many of their apps are running as services. Why does Slacker need to keep 2 services running in the background when I'm done using it? Why does Google Play Music do this, and many other programs as well. I personally don't need Reddit to be sending me real time notifications so I get rid of that but you might want to keep it, etc.

You're completely right about usage patterns. You probably noticed I never told anyone to set a certain brightness, or even promised they could get any number of hours from this. This is just what helped me push the phone beyond what initially seemed possible, and if only one of these extends your SoT by 15minutes I think that's a success.
[Nexus 5 General] FunDionysus:
Hey, like has been stated time and time again, here and on hundreds of other XDA threads, usage patterns vary. Of course they do. So what's new?

The OP reported some helpful tips to save on battery usage. Employ them or don't. I applaud the thread, and threads like this.

When I'm away from home or not near a charging center (e.g. sporting events and summer time outdoor events and recreation), these tips to extend my battery time will come in handy. But will likely be acquiring a zerolemon external battery recharge pack as well.

Some questions on a related topic: Any idea how long the built-in non-removable N5 battery will likely last...past warranty? I know, I know usage patterns vary. Without tossing the phone, are there proven methods of do-it yourself N5 battery replacement and/or a reliable source of replacement N5 batteries? What is the estimated shelf life of an uncharged backup internal battery? Think it might be best to get a replacement battery to put into reserve rather than wait for the inevitable.
[Nexus 5 General] Aru706:
I found this post very informative, thank you!
[Nexus 5 General] shilton.charles:
i dont quite think anyone will achieve identical SOT since we all use our phones in different ways

MY SOT would involve messaging over 4g, social media and music primarily

others would be capturing photos, playing games so these results will vary

my average is 4-5hrs SOT using most of the tips mentioned by the OP..which is not to bad
[Nexus 5 General] oniemjan:
can anyone explain how to use llama to control the brightnes and save battery?
[Nexus 5 General] Ben36:
I know the OP is intended to be of help and i mean no offence to the thread starter but...

I get around 5 hours screen time and my set up is

Location reporting - off

Wifi scanning always available - off

That's it.

If you need more than 5 hours screen time a day then rather than starting automating things and manually shutting down every app you don't need maybe you should step back and take a look at your life. Lol
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
Try setting the condition to a time of day.

You were fine until that last part. That's uncalled for. I tapped a few things on my screen and got 2 more hours SoT than is average so you make sweeping judgments about my life? That says a lot more about you then me.

Some people require the battery to last longer. I'm glad you don't need it to.
[Nexus 5 General] JonasVFC:
is there any alternative to LUX and Llama?

i'm currently using LUX and in battery usage it doesn't even show in the list

best regards
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
Llama won't be using any noticeable amount of battery unless you enable experimental features or use "on app launch" conditions. It doesn't even seem to wake the phone to automatically toggle settings according to the battery graph. By using cell tower locations which the phone is polling for anyways, drain is very minimal. Tasker is a more advanced, paid alternative you could also try.

Some apps might not ever show up individually on your battery list. Things like widgets will only count towards Android System drain, while Lux uses your Sensors and Screen.
[Nexus 5 General] HTC_guy99:
The best ways to save your battery juice IS dont touch it. Left your phone take a look for the real world.
[Ornate TrueSmart] fg:
The newly released Companion App and Kurt's Watchfaces no longer detect my NA1900 1/8 as an Omate. Companion says "This app must be run on the Omate Truesmart" and Watchfaces wants me to buy it to unlock the premium options.

I have a feeling something's changed in the build.prop, but I don't know what an original build.prop looks like.

Before I go about restoring back to factory defaults, does anyone have a stock build.prop or some other ideas I might try?
[Ornate TrueSmart] fg:
Didn't even consider this as a side-effect of the root patch. Is this related to the framework-res modification included for the backlight settings or something in the build.prop?
[Ornate TrueSmart] fg:
Applied your patch, no change. Do you have an original build.prop or should I do a factory restore?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Which option did you use?
[Ornate TrueSmart] fg:
option 1 first, then option 2
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Walk me though exactly what you did and what the error is and when it happens. I can't get it to fail on either the EU 512/4 or the NA 1/8.

Just a heads up though, you are supposed to choose only one option as Operative install is Operative and the patch combined.
[Ornate TrueSmart] fg:
tried again a few times and now option 2 seems to have resolved this
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kleo2:
Hi guys,

I'm running my Moto G 16GB on Kitkat 4.4.2 system version 175.44.1.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE. Today it offered to download and install the latest OTA update (called 176.44.1.en.DE). I started the download and tried to install it.

After downloading the update was placed in /cache. The file name was 'Blur_Version.175.44.1.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE.zip', which surprised me. I was expecting something like 'Blur_Version.176.44.1.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE.zip'.

When I tried to install it without removing root and without going back to stock recovery it ended with a signature error in CWM. Installing the untrusted zip manually didn't work as well - as expected.

Then I tried to follow advise from other threads and went back to stock recovery (extracted from a full install package 'Blur_Version.175.44.1.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE' - 444MB) That seemed to work and the install of the OTA update went fine before getting stuck on the boot animation on the first boot. It sat there for 10 minutes before I rebooted and restored a CWM backup.

I'm running out of ideas. Some say it's sufficient to go back to stock recovery temporarily. Others say you need to go back to full stock.

I have to repeat that I'm rooted and that I've de-activated a few unused apps (mainly harmless google stuff (hangout, search, music and so on) and Motorola Assist, Migrate and 'Context Services') .

Are there further findings about what stops the OTA from succeeding?

Many thanks in advance,

Kleo2
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] S0bes:
If your phone is rooted or there is a CWM installed or there is any change in system files then ota will fail till you flash stock rom. You can't just bring back stock recovery. You have to "delete" root as well.

There is some info http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47495650&postcount=6
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CromoPT:
I will post my case here, I had the same problem, I had CWM and root and when I rebooted to update I get installation failed and boot loop.

Then I just flashed stock recovery (only) rebooted and now I already have the update installed
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kleo2:
Hi, thanks for your replies. Because of your report and others, who state the same (installing stock recovery only to get the update working) I was hoping to get around going back to full stock. It always takes a lot of time to configure the phone the way it was configured before essentially wiping.

Just to repeat what I did: when I try to install the OTA while CWM is installed there's just an error message in CWM, the update fails, but the phone is working normally afterwards. It's just not updated.

When I try with stock recovery the update process finishes without errors, but the phone get stuck during the boot animation.

Maybe there's a way to fix the boot loop?

Looking forward to any suggestions

Cheers, Kleo2
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kleo2:
I tried again and found a way without going back to full stock.

1. flashed stock recovery from full 175.44.1 image

2. let the phone download the OTA and restart to install it

3. ota install in stock recovery went fine

4. reboot -> stuck on boot animation again

5. flashed CWM and wiped cache AND dalvik cache

6. next boot took longer than normal but got past the boot animation

7. android optimized/cached my apps and then started normally

8. version is now 176.44.1 and the phone seems to work normally (after 30 minutes of usage)

Hope that helps someone and that I won't have issues going forward because I did it this way. :)

Cheers, Kleo2
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rygel16:
Thanks. :good: Did 1 to 3 and phone booted just fine (not stuck on boot animation)

My phone: No logo fix, root, Xposed Framework

After update root was still there, Xposed needed a new install
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Papshmir:
total noob

i would so much like to update my rooted moto g.. because of my card reader.

does anyone know a step-by-step-for-complete-noobs-post and could provide a link?

i'm just starting.. and so happy and proud that i got my phone rooted.. and that i got rid of this rebooting problem by erasing the cache.

but i'm already lost when i read "flashed stock recovery".. yeah i know: that much noob!

help would be much appreciated!

Papshmir
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hui91:
I UPDATED my rooted Kitkat Tesco version SUCCESFULLY! and still rooted. :)

What I did:

1. install Motorola Device Manager (RESTART computer and telephone)

2. downloaded MotoTool

3. Made a Nandroid backup in CMW, made a backup with MotoTool too. Just in case :)

And deactived (did not uninstall) my Xposed framework modules (if you dont have it, you dont need to)

I have some system apps disabled, but didnt re-activate it. :P (was too lazy haha)

4. downloaded the correct ROM from: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14 (Tesco UK 4.4.2)

5. unzipped the ROM and rename and overwrite the recovery.img to the exact name as in the MotoTool All In One 2.6\Data\KitKat\StockKitKatrecovery.img (Just for sure it's the same as my ROM, I dont know if all the ROMs have the same recovery sooo :) )

6. started MotoTool, unplug&replug device. Checked KitKat option in the program, did a connection check, it was okay. Did a NORMAL restart via progam. You have to grant permisson on your phone.

7. after reboot, rebooted the phone to FASTBOOT.

8. Checked Stock Fastboot in the program, it flashed succesfully. Then I went into recovery (1×down volume, then 1× up volume) checked if the recovery was working. It was working (android logo+ no command error message)

9. reboot (long press power button)

10. Updeted OTA, settings/inf./update.. blabla okay okay next next. Wait until it downloads (only 7.9 MB :D)

11. wait for the update to be done, then it reboots, then apps are being updated. Everything looks fine and working

+1 flash CMW or other recovery again.

Hope this helps! I was afraid to do it too. I'm not used to MotoTool and other Motorola stuff because I had a HTC Desire, it was much simplier with that. But no risk here either! Good luck!
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] draco259:
So I am trying to put back my stock recovery so I can take the OTA, but after I flash the recovery and try to reboot to it, it says "No Command". I have reflashed TWRP and then the stock recovery again with the same result. The phone itself will boot fine, but I can't install the OTA as it gets an error part of the way into the install. Any ideas? I have the 1034.

EDIT: Well I remembered I did the H+ mod, so after reverting that the OTA flashed :D I had Faux Kernel before hand, but after reflashing it my wi-fi wont enable, any ideas?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Papshmir:
Thanks!
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jdhollan:
Thanks,

Wiping cache and dalvik cache did the trick for me. You saved my day :)
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bckspc:
Please please help

I have the same problem. I've tried to update the new OTA and failed. After restoring full stock rom, the system simply doesn't boot!

I had Faux Kernel and GravityBox but I didn't revert anything. I thought that a full stock rom would clear all system settings.

This is my version of stock (Blur_Version.174.44.9.falcon_umts.Retail.en.GB) and I tried to flash it several times now. No success. I get stuck on the boot logo.

I tried to downgrade to 4.3 using version Blur_Version.14.71.8.falcon_umts.Retail.en.GB. I was able to boot and see the initial setup but I have no WIFI! I was trying to install 4.3 then try to update via OTA but OTA only works with WIFI so I'm stuck.

I also tried installing the 24th Feb nightly build of Cyanogen and the device also booted but with no WIFI.

I really don't know what to do! Please help me. I've tried other stock images out of despair but none with sucess.

Does anyone have a clue to what might be to problem and how to revert it?

Thank you
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hui91:
Before flashing stock ROM try to clear/format all your partitions with a custom recovery!
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BlackSheep66:
I installed the OTA update using the CWM recovery but not root, I changed the update-script to not give error during installation
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] grimebox:
At part 8, I am getting an image of the android guy with his stomach open with a big red '!'. That's 'no command' right?

Any ideas? I have no idea what I am doing
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] russtyd:
Guys, a really easy way to update is:

1. Install Philz recovery - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2639583

2. Reboot and then download the OTA update when prompted - select Install when prompted

3. It will now reboot into Philz recovery, install the update and reboot

4. You'll see Android is Upgrading...

5. Re-boot back into recover and re-install faux kernel

I have just upgraded my XT1032 on 174.44.9 en GB (rooted + faux008) to 176.44.1 using this... worked like a dream! All I had to do was re-install faux kernel as that was overwritten by the OTA, but Root was in-tact...
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] evilshinryu89:
i have root, twrp recovery and faux kernel, the problem is only faux kernel? Or I must remove all? (root recovery etc)
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoatUser:
I must first say THANK YOU ALL (gr8nole, phil13 , jamison904 and many many more,sorry for not mentioning you) for so much useful information and development on all aspects of the Samsung tab 3 7.0 (SMT210, SMT210R)

I was wondering what I am doing wrong?????????/

Rooted SMT210, with prerooted.tar.md5 from jamison904, flashed philz_touch 6 CWM recovery, then tried everything to flash rom NO success, as the error is constant:(With cwm(philz_touch 6) recovery, Odin3.07, Hiemdall under raring 13.04).

Tried on both linux and windows 7 machines. (Download checked and md5 ok)

Format () expects5 args, got 4

(status 7)

Installation aborted

Any ideas would be gratefully received

My aim is to achieve BlackHauwk Kernel, RocketTab Rom +++
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ripshock:
Uncheck the update binary thing in philz touch 6 cmw recovery it's in install zip
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoatUser:
I don't seem to have found this, and have checked most of the settings, am a novice with android but as a geriatric can use linux, so terminal is also no prob.
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ripshock:
What is your device model?
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoatUser:
Model is SM T210, Tab3 7.0 (Uk purchased)
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ripshock:
1. Reboot to recovery

2. Tap on "install zip"

3. Scroll down (swipe up) and there is "don't allow old update-binary", it is check by default and you just uncheck it bay tapping once on it

P.s it resets when rebooting

4. Install any zip you want :)
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoatUser:
SO Model SMT210 and 6860, 04e8
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoatUser:
You are an apsolute super star it worked a treat, thank you soo much.

I have spent alot of time as a newbie in this world, looking at various options, most of which are confusing to most people (me included;)) so after I have done a couple of other devices I was thinking of posting an Idiots guide.

Should I post it? and if yes Where should I post it
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ripshock:
In q&a, I would post
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoatUser:
Thank you:o
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ripshock:
You are welcome
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brian D:
BoatUser, I too have noticed that a lot of developers write in such a way that they assume the reader is on par with their thought processes. I am having trouble trying to understand what developers mean when they give an ambiguous statement like "clean flash" and do not define clean flash. These guys are brilliant but lack very basic communication skills in expressing how to do something. I have seen it in many a software engineer. An idiot proof guide is always welcomed.
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ripshock:
Clean flash means flashing with a full wipe (formatting system, data, cache and etc) so they can remove old system files and other things of the old rom or frimware and install a rom with a clean version
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Brian D:
Ripshock, thanks! After much reading I know what a clean flash is now. But I had to search high and low for the definition. My point was that key phrases that are understood by the developer and "those already in the know" are not defined for those new to the game. If the developer would just give specific instructions (step by step) then I think more would better understand and fewer questions about procedures would be asked. Just saying.
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ripshock:
I agree
[Galaxy Tab 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BoatUser:
maybe an idiots guide

I have just posted what is probably a first version, comments?:o

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=50601279
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] cun7:
Reserved for images of pvs tables. Note the difference in the voltage tables to the right of the frequency steps.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chrisrotolo:
Tmobile note 3, my number is 3. Thanks for the lesson and helpful info.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] chipworkz:
I wish you got your scale backwards, my T-Mobile Note 3 is a 1. :(

Edit: Checked my wife's phone and she has a 0. These phones are less than a month old. Wonder if it is just hit and miss per batch or if they started buying cheaper chips.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] cerj:
You are a beacon of knowledge.. Another great write up.. tappin that thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Eric214:
hmmm interesting write up. I had no clue about CPU binning. Mine is a value of 5. Is there supposed to be anything else in there? It's just a 5, nothing else.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] rjohnstone:
Got a 3.

I don't do any CPU tweaks, but it's nice to know for future reference.

Thx
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3] Eric214:
yeah this phone doesn't need overclocking. I'm stock deodexed with bloat removed and I've never once had the phone stutter or lag once and apps open consistently faster then any phone I've ever had prior to this one (including my S4). Though I do maintenance (wipe Dalvik/cache) every 3 or 4 days.