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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
That would be awesome dude I'd love to get rid of the TW dialer
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
It never showed as custom when I used towelroot
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
Ah nice! Have you done any major mods with your root or just kept it simple? I'm planning on doing a bit so even if towelroot doesn't set it off my adjustments might. But thank you that's good to know!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Timothy08:
i hope we get a leaked one and with an unlocked bootloader for people that took the ota... im hoping that we get a leaked unlocked bootloader... but im think verizon will keep that **** on lock....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Yea I'm pretty sure those that took the OTA are stuck on it or 4.4 when it comes out.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] HankStorm:
I hope they improve images in Contacts. Hate how TW messes with the image quality of the photos I assign to contacts and they always appear very pixellated. It's a minor thing in the big picture but it irks me so much I am sticking will CM11 until I see some improvement in that area.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
This list is from Samsung.

Providers don't have to push the update. Verizon is usually the last to push anything out, so don't hold your breath. We may never see it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] dsbaciga:
I think that there might be enough people who still have GS3s that Verizon might actually get it out. Maybe.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Krusej23:
The S3 was pretty late to get 4.3 but that was also because there were major issues with the update that other carriers pushed out so it pushed Verizon back. Verizon has improved with their update process. Google and Samsung are going to be pushing updates harder now and that will put pressure on Verizon to update quicker. Here's to positivity.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Been using XDA-Developers app on the phone for so long I had forgotten to change my info for the web version.

my "sent from" line at the bottom of the posts was correct.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Yea it was. Wasn't sure you noticed that in your profile. It's all good man, honestly I don't care either way

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] VECTUS:
Thread cleaned of all the bad blood... Everyone please read and follow our rules here at XDA. If your post was deleted it either was offensive or quoted something offensive... I remind everyone to report issues and let Moderators handle them before YOU get into and become part of the problem... Thread reopened but ONE strike...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
What would be nice is if someone finally got around the locked 4.3 bootloader so we could run any custom kitkat, or even a stock ported kitkat for those of us that still prefer TW. Safestrap only supports 4.3 roms for now.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Oh i agree with that one. It would be nice for the masses with the OTA

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] pappingfandas:
So does anybody know if this new update contains 4.4? Also if I took the 4.3 ota is it safe to say I'm screwed anyway and I should take this one too?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
The new update is TW 4.3, VRUCNC1. It only adds roaming capabilities for Telus in Canada and blocks Saferoot. So there's no root exploit for it...yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Its weird slim. My gf is on the ML1 OTA and her phone is now alerting her of the new ota. It's only letting her delay the update at this point. It's kind of stupid to force users to update something they don't need

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mrjim.com:
Same boat I'm in. I take it from what he said though, the key is that they "block Saferoot". I could see them pushing something like that out.

I've wanted to root (& unlock the bootloader) ever since the 4.3 OTA. I've just been holding out for someone to find a good solution. I suppose even without a solution for the bootloader, now would be the time for me to root then eh?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
As long as you haven't taken the ML1 OTA then yes you can unlock and root. If your already rooted you can stop the update from even attempting to try to install by freezing sdm.apk and fwupgrade.apk

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mrjim.com:
Yeah, I've got the ML1 :( that means rooting is my only option at this point right?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
I understand, VRUCNC1 is relatively useless to us around here. I just want to see a KitKat update whenever that does happen. Maybe it'll help AOSP in some way.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] landshark68:
Yes, you can root with saferoot. Then you can use safestrap to flash custom 4.3 Touchwiz ROMs. See the safestrap thread here:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2605648

Then check out the OP of this thread for a list of the 4.3 TW safestrap compatible ROMs:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2653902
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Yea I agree with that. It doesn't make sense to force an update on users who will never go to Canada, it should merely be optional plain and simple

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You can flash roms. But they must be TW base roms only

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jmz768:
If it doesn't show custom after using Towelroot, you're not rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
I'm not? Could have fooled me.

No lock showing up on the boot screen etc
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
Have you installed SuperSu and Busybox? I Had to install those to make sure it was a fully functional root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
For now, it's just simple. TB, root browser etc

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Yep. Installed right after I rooted with towelroot. I also use triangle away
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ruokuo:
Odin back to ml1

Hi guys, if I took the update and doesn't like it, can I Odin back to ml1(4.3)?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
No one has tried it, but I think it would brick it since they are different bootloaders/modems/everything. I highly doubt you'd encounter a problem harsh enough to warrant a downgrade, and if you do, you can just go to verizon.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
I was going to say something similar. Saying you would more than likely hard brick it.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
I tried it. It doesn't work it will resolve in a bootloader brick
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
You are able to use Triangle Away on a VZW GS3 without an unlocked boot loader????????
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Yep. Works just fine
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] gm2racer:
I assume that you'll want to decline this if your rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
has anyone sent in there s3 to mobile tech vid to downgrade there phone to 4.1.2 I'm thinking about doing it I kinda miss having a unlocked boot loader and be cheaper then a new phone right now for me and seeing what's coming to android makes me want to more and more
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] jtcressy:
Hmm, actually i'd like to hear from someone if they try that. I highly doubt anyone could possibly downgrade from ML1 or newer, even if you use a jtag. I think you'd probably have to kidnap the developers in charge of trying to lock our bootloaders. xD
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/samsung-galaxy-s-iii-s3-bootloader-downgrade-service/
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
I think it's a good idea. An unlocked bootloader is priceless

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
See that's the thing, Android L looks insanely good. I'm probably not going to do the downgrade but I will never, EVER, buy a Samsung phone ever again. I'm done with crappy fragmentation and locked phones. Granted, I am on just about the latest version right now but it also came out in November. It took almost 8 months to get the latest software.

I pray that Android Silver is good because I really need to get a phone with timely updates and true customizability. If more people start to realize how behind Samsung is (and how crappy their software is compared to stock) Samsung will be forced to make the switch to Tizen because they suck hard at Android.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Bright09:
I'm in the same boat I'm never gonna buy a another Sam sung device again other then at the time I got it was the best phone out at the time Verizon had and going through 2 insurance phones kinda sucks got two locked phones but thankfully I'll just use my n7 flo for use and enjoy L
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] TokedUp:
My last Sammy phone too. Never again.

Before u toss ur S3 aside try the new final release on PA 4.4, which is Android 4.4.4. It really is remarkable how they add all these cool new features. I know I know this is a TW thread but PA has brought new life to this old phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
Had them all and all the same complaints. Just head over to Moto, Apple or HTC forums for more of the same.

I recommend we all go back to voice only.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
I agree. Never buying a Samsung phone again. Silly locked bootloader.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
Is Moto bad too? That was supposed to be my future saving grace lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
Moto has been bad in terms of unlocking for a while. I remember when my Droid X got a non-rollbackable update with a different radio. Nothing was to be done. I suggest Sony. Lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] landshark68:
Why is everyone blaming Samsung when Verizon is really to blame for the locked bootloader? The T-Mobile Samsung GS5 does not have a locked bootloader. It would stand to reason if Samsung were the ones locking down all their devices, the T-Mobile variant would also be locked down.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Sammobile just posted the NE1 Odin tar file!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
Samsung agreed to this bootloader. Otherwise it wouldn't have happened. They also forced Knox on our arses which made it much more difficult to fiddle with the bootloader.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Samsung agreed to the boot loader so they could continue to sell phones to Verizon. If they hadn't agreed, Verizon wouldn't be buying phones from them, and we'd all be stuck back on 4.1.2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
That would be fine because we could all just unlock it and we would have had AOSP KitKat months ago
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
Preach brother.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] landshark68:
That may be fine for you and many users on XDA. But don't forget we in the rooting/modding community make up such a small percentage of Verizon's overall phone business they could not ignore the majority of their customers in favor of the wishes of just a few.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lexluthor:
I'm on ML1 unlocked bootloader/rooted from here

http://xdaforums.com/show....php?t=2591895

If I flash NE1 via ODIN will it wipe my phone resulting in a clean NE1 with locked bootloader or will it be a non-destructive upgrade to fully stock/locked NE1 or will it be something even worse?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] landshark68:
No need to post the exact same question in multiple threads a mere three minutes apart. I answered you in the other thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] phillipmckinnish:
FUNNY
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] mikecico:
Does 4.4.2 get rid of the annoying "Your Internet connection is unstable" messages? I get those all the time, even rooted.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] suchavibrantthang:
it did for me on stock 4.4.2 root.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jackelope:
I used to get those all of the time, but on 4.4.2 I haven't gotten any yet. I've been on kitkat a few days now. I used to also get the message when I had on data and Wi-Fi.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Ryan829:
FIXED IT

EDIT- I fixed it. I am on 4.4.2 stock TW. All i had to do was wipe again, buy a new usb cord, and plug it in to verizon repair assistant. Worked the first time and did not get stuck at 83 percent. Must have been a few bad cables
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fotd:
Installed this morning, about 30 random reboots so far. Ugh. Tried a factory reset and still the same. Just randomly reboots every few minutes.

Edit: I did let it restore apps, so haven't gone 1 by 1 yet.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Try a factory reset in recovery. I'm not using this OTA, but you should be able to still access recovery by holding power, home, and volume up from a powered off state.

Or, try a clean install using the Odin tar. You should have no data on the phone if going either route.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] daimerion:
I'm guessing we (unlocked folks) won't have a TW based 4.4.2 rom until the kernel source drops?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Aren't there already 4.4.2 based TW Roms out already, or are they all AOSP?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] daimerion:
4.4.2 Just came out so they're all AOSP
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] fotd:
Thanks, I tried the full recovery factory reset too. Tried once restoring apps and then once without restoring any apps and same thing. Random reboots, could be 3 minutes, could be 20. frustrating....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] cowboysdude:
Silly question

I'm running on stock VRUCNC1 and am rooted. Do I have to install the new Verizon Update or is there another 4.4.2 that I can install without bricking my phone?

Thanks!:laugh:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] outcasted2003:
Will have to remove root to get the OTA to install. I wound up using the upgrade assistant from Verizon to repair and install the new KK update.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] BadUsername:
I know this is old but I want to mention a couple things.

Samsung did agree to a locked bootloader, but every phone on Verizon has a locked bootloader. The only reason I switched to the HTC m8 is because it was unlockable and future proof. Htc pushes updates out very quickly.

Knox does not make the bootloader harder to tamper with, and I think soon Knox will pay dividends for Samsung and other companies will adopt Knox like systems. Think about it, there's a huge section of consumers that BlackBerry still has that no other company has overtaken. Companies that need a secured system can't use Android without a Knox like fortress around their data, from a business standpoint Knox had to be made. Blackberry is so secure because RIM's network was built to always be secure, Android was built to be open and shareable.

People who are complaining about getting an update in the first place need to look back in the beginning of all the discussion threads. We had people talking to verizon's chat representatives multiple times per day complaining that we haven't received the update in a timely matter. Then we get the update, everyone complains because it locked the bootloader (no surprise there), but people still took the update blindly without reading the posts warning them not to take it.

It's impossible to make everybody happy, but Samsung is very happy being at the top of the market, looking to overtake BlackBerry in the secured market in the near future. Of course they are going to agree with what Verizon tells them to do. Just like every other phone company will continue to do.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
I never took the 4.3 update. My charging port was dying and I had to get a replacement (by warranty). Said replacement came with 4.3. But you do make some good points.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Sadly a lot of people have had to get replacements and VZW or asurion sends you a replacement on the locked 4.3 bootloader.

I keep mine in a good case and I'm hoping the charging port and or the screen never gets cracked. I think I'd cry having to be on a locked bootloader as I prefer custom roms other than tw most of the time.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Cheaper to fix the charging port than pay deductible to replace device. Paying for screen replacement is another story. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jackelope:
I just had something interesting happen to me yesterday. I'm on 4.4.2 Rooted and Youtube wouldn't connect

to any videos and Netflix would stutter every 5-6 seconds. When I booted my phone I had the custom lock which

was not there since I've upgraded to 4.4.2 and rooted.

In the System->About->Status It said my system was custom. Then I decided to reboot to fix the Youtube issue,

which it did. But there was no longer any custom lock. Nor did it say custom in the status menu.

Anyone else have a weird issue like this?

P.S. I hadn't messed with any settings or files. Just rooted it the first day 4.4.2 came out. Also I have

the policy updates disabled.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Yea if you know how. I wouldn't even consider looking at it myself. I'd have someone do it for me

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] prdog1:
Mobile Tech Videos. Josh fix anything on it. :cool:
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] DigitalMD:
good luck with that... since Google no longer has it own manufacture, it will never happen

Best go to Apple, they control the hardware and the market for innovation for their devices, therefore they can hold innovation back and make sure that everything is updated on their schedule. Google is an advertising company and doesn;t build hardware.

Also you mistakenly think Samsung cares about locked bootloaders, they don't but Verizon certainly does. I have had Verizon smart phones from HTC, MOTO, Samsung, and Nokia...all had or now have locked bootloaders at one time of another. Verizon has a vested interest in crippling features so they can charge you twice for them. Hardware vendors do not.

Whaa wahha wahh.... trot over to the HTC and moto forums. see the same "I WILL NEVER AGAIN".. blah blah blah.

Sorry for the rant, but this blaming Samsung for Verizon and the other cell providers sins is just senseless.If all you want is updates for the bland stock ANdroid, then pay your money for a new Nexus and be satisfied.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
Has nothing to do with cracks. Probably some bent pins from a lot of plug in/plug out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
If you need a replacement and would prefer another phone it indeed has to do with a badly cracked screen, also hardware issues and many others. Not to sound rude but I do know what I'm talking about

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] YevOmega:
No, no, not what I meant. I wasn't talking about screen cracks. I don't disagree with you on that. Your phrasing made it sound like charging port issues are due to the charging port cracking.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] ShapesBlue:
Oh ok. No that's definitely not what I meant. No worries though

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] imp3r10:
What policy update are you talking about?

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Jackelope:
Under settings -> security -> security policy updates. I think it's for SELinux
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
When you read the EULA that comes up it specifically states that it can and will remove any apps that Samsung deems to be unauthorized... I believe that they will try to unroot etc if we take the security updates. Need to find the process and freeze it
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] imp3r10:
What process is that?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
That's what we need to figure out
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
Full clean wipe upgrade
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lexluthor:
Nope. Not a wipe at all. I did it and it was an upgrade leaving everything intact.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Where did you get the VRUDNE1 tar?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] lexluthor:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2795659
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Then why ask if VRUDNE1 tar will wipe your phone, if it says so in the title?

The person who responded to your post thought it was the untouched VRUDNE1 tar file (found on sites like Sammobile or Samsung-updates) which do wipe the phone clean.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] sk8terboy13:
bootloader

hey when will they unlock the bootloader for kitkat
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] n3wt:
Probably never. But there's still a chance that they'll get it to run on the old one. ... waiting for kernel source code.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] SlimSnoopOS:
Don't count on anyone unlocking the bootloader. It wasn't done on the S4 since its been locked down. If it happens, if someone is even working on it, it'll be newsworthy just like Towelroot.

What you should be looking for, is KitKat Touchwiz support of SafeStrap and hopefully custom KitKat Touchwiz roms if they are released.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
There is a safestrap beta that works with KitKat.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53744903
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
Nice I thought it would be a full clean wipe but it sometimes works as an upgrade but sometimes it is a wipe. I was wrong on this case
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] 5ft24:
Go grab the file from sammobile. Odin it to the phone and it will be a clean wipe if that's what you need
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
I can't wait for any touchwiz 4.4 roms to come out. Hurry up pLease! Lol jk take your time
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
For all developers making 4.4.2 touchwiz roms, that camera icon on the lock screen can probably be made to bring back an old yet very useful feature. I'm talking about back in the good ole 4.0.3 days
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] vmancini3:
I would definitely bring that up at a later date! Samsung still has yet to release the kernel source for 4.4.2 and some of the developers are still worried about whether they can get anything to boot successfully even after that happens! Me, I'd love to just be able to run stock 4.4.2 on my unlocked bootloader!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
I was just making a suggestion because that camera icon looks like the old bubble icon fRom the ics touchwiz days
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] vmancini3:
Nothing wrong with suggestions....I just figured I'd let it be known where things stand right now....maybe I came off a little rude... Not intentional!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] techfreak243:
Hey you know what crap happens and we can take things the wrong way when we read it instead of hearing it out loud. I blame the internet!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
I think I might have found it maybe IdkView attachment 2826278
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] Byonik:
Forgive my ignorance - I haven't used safestrap since I had a moto Droid. If I have an unlocked GS3, does safestrap give me the ability to run stock TW KK NE1 without permanently locking my BL? If so, can I remove SS and reinstall standard TWRP at a later time with no ramifications? Just curious....
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy S III] JacobManning17:
I'm not an expert either, but I believe Safestrap is meant for people WITH kicked bootloaders to run custom ROMs (based on their kernel). I don't think you could use a safestrap TW 4.4.2 ROM (idk if there are any) on a different kernel then the stock one for 4.4.2. Hope this helps. For more info you could head on over to an official Safestrap thread :)