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[Android General] frankgreimes:
Amen to that for me the Z1 compact WOULD have been perfect if:

- removable battery

- physical home, back and menu button

- full HD screen (which would have been nice but still..)

I really can not understand, why companies are going with the stupid non removable batteries, maybe the rumour is true and they just want to spy on us even when the phone is off...

Sony is making some pretty amazing phones lately (z1 compact, Z 2) but like always they aren't making use of some other weaknesses. Part of the reason why Samsung devices are selling millions and millions are things like removable battery and the expandable sd slot (Sony offers that so kudos). The whole Xperia line has enough bezels to add some physical buttons on screen buttons will never give me the same satisfication as physical, you can not believe how often I wish my TF 300 would have a physical home button.

NOW IF Samsung can turn the S5 features into a compact format I'd buy it without even thinking about it. These are my two hopes for the official Samsung events next months a compact S5 version OR AND a S5 premium
[Android General] Baldilocks:
Was afraid of that.
[Android General] yahyoh:
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[Android General] :
Why?

They did use it on xperia z and z1 and they were super durable.

Just search: xperia z heat test, drop test, acid test and etc

And watch lots of test videos like this;

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCP_mHdPo8I

:thumbup:

Sent via Nexus7 | WiFi.32GB
[Android General] Baldilocks:
Don't want an all glass phone again.

Sent from my Galaxy S4
[Android General] Trentors:
Better camera? Higher MP does not make at better camera. SGS5 new camera is based on ISOCELL which is far more light sensitive than 20MP sensor on Z2. Add faster autofocus with phase detection and instant HDR and it is clear that SGS5 problaly will take better still pictures than Z2.

But let us wait for the reviews but they do not tend to favour Xperia phones :(
[Android General] :
ISOCELL is good for sensitivity to light But larger sensor can collect more light.

it means if they can calibrate it properly it will work better.
[Android General] Trentors:
It seems the Z1 has a 1.1 micron size pixels where the SGS5 ISOCELL has 1.2 micron size pixels. So besides the fact they can collect more light per pixel due to being better at "trapping" the light they also have larger pixels. Win-win.
[Android General] :
Xperia Z2 sensor size >> 1/2.3"

Galaxy S5 sensor size >> ... ! i don't know please send source.

(But if there s something different they mentioned it!)
[Android General] CLARiiON:
1/2.6"

http://www.samsung.com/global/microsite/galaxys5/specs.html

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Get the Big Picture: CMOS Image Sensors and ISOCELL
[Android General] Trentors:
Well i have been misinformed. It seems the SGS5 sensor size is 1/3 :

http://connect.dpreview.com/post/78...tter-image-quality-from-mobile-device-sensors

But it is unconfirmed. There are less pixels though with higher sensibility. It is going to be interesting when the reviews arrive.

EDIT: Maybe CLARiiON's source is more realiable. Please ignore my post.

If the official Samsung source is correct the pixels are indeed larger on SGS5. Added with support for a wider aparture and better light sensitivity the ISOCELL seems superior.

Besides the (near) instant auto-focus and instant HDR makes the camera VERY interesting.
[Android General] :
Camera Sensor Size & Pixel Size

So the Camera Sensor size is 1/2.6"

But the size of each pixel increased to 1.12 µm pixel size

like what htc done on htc One.

:good:
[Android General] Rippley05:
Curious. Where's the xda forum for the xperia 2? The s5 is obviously open.

I'm interested in trying another phone other than samsung/htc..but Sony scares me. They make a new phone every 6 months with next to no upgrades or changes.

Anyone recommend something high end?
[Android General] xeizo:
Wait for LG G3 ...
[Android General] bobbarker2:
These days for high-end flagship phones, HTC, LG, Samsung and Sony are the only options. Though Motorolla seems to be making an effort again. If you don't want HTC/Samsung then LG/Sony are your options.
[Android General] bdithug:
The drop tests of the Sony phones concern me, but I would obviously be putting a case on it and wouldn't be doing drop tests. I'm still learning towards the z2
[Android General] :
LG G3 will be one of the best smartphone beside Xperia Z2 and Galaxy S5.

But u cannot compare build quality of Samsung with LG !

Samsung is at top of SmartPhones manufacture that using high-end hardware; Snapdragon & Exynos

but u can test taste of Intel Atom, MediaTek & another hardware with Lenovo, Huawei & ...

but another OS

i don like iOS so nothing...

but Nokia icon & another phones from nokia is so good. (windows phone OS)

- - -

I think Samsung & Sony is same in this way.

They release a flagship as original and then 2-3 successors & Edition

Galaxy S4 >> Galaxy S4 active >> S4 active LTE >> S4 snapdragon 800 ...

Xperia Z >> Z ultra >> Z1 >> Z2

:good:
[Android General] :
Sensors...

Galaxy S5 sensors;

Accelerometer, gyro, proximity, compass, barometer, temperature, humidity, gesture, heart rate

Xperia Z2 sensors;

Accelerometer, Barometer, Geomagnetic rotation vector, Gyroscope, Magnetometer, Step counter, Step detector, Significant motion detector, Proximity

- - - - -

Reasons that I Don't like htc & Nokia & even LG;

it s not first time that they try to jape Samsung.

HTC & Nokia Troll Samsung over Galaxy S5 Announcement

(LG cause it try to troll samsung and copy samsung job at moment of Galaxy S4 announcement.)
[Android General] xeizo:
SInce these phones have similar hardware final deciding factor for me was the Z2 being sllightly too big and I'm sure S5 is more comfortable to hold and use thanks to a less edgy design.

Btw, the "fugly" back was apparently primarily designed to be comfortable which sounds pretty good to me!

AMOLED, Interchangeable battery and 128GB capacity seals the deal ....
[Android General] bdithug:
I could care less about the back of a phone as I always put a case on it. I'm more concerned about Knox and warranty policy more than anything. That and paying for things I will not use (finger print scanner, heart rate monitor). The 128gb storage means nothing to me as I currently use a 32gb SD card and still don't fill it up. Samsung upgraded in the wrong areas IMO.
[Android General] Rippley05:
http://cultofandroid.com.feedsporta...less0E8gb0Efree0Estorage0Espace0C/story01.htm

This article kills off a little of the sd card value.
[Android General] frankgreimes:
The trolling is really funny the especially from companies that fail to offer expandable storage, removable batteries or a physical home button.

I mean i will never ever buy a Nokia phone again, they've pissed on their homecountry with outsourcing their production. Screw them

HTC lmao the only real competition is from Sony. Yes the phone isn't what we've wanted but it still beats HTC LG and Nokia. Provide former mentioned stuff and highend specs before trolling ...

Heck the s4 still beats everything they have to offer

As for the sdcard thing wow that's disappointing. Google is really trying to force people into their nsa eh cloud services
[Android General] :
Samsung got crazy & I Love it...

Metallic Galaxy S5 with Better Hardware /Under Construction...
[Android General] xeizo:
I've been running 4.4 for several months on a GT-i9300 and haven't encountered any issues of storage space not enough, even dual booting stock with AOSP taking extra space and using many apps, I do have a 32GB ext sdcard which have been of good use despite eventual restrictions. So, with S5 there will be a little less space, but I will debloat anyway and surely run AOSP as well....

About that writing thing, I've never had any trouble copying things from sdcard to ext sdcard and Spotify uses ext sdcard as cache happily as well as Camera saving pictures to ext sdcard happily so I wonder if that article just is plain wrong? Or more like TROLLING :eek:
[Android General] shaolin95:
Only on your very narrow view of reality that is...:rolleyes:
[Android General] Rippley05:
For those of you who know/heard of evleaks. He just tweeted that the "s5 prime" is back on the table (shooting for May release). The fact that Samsung feels so much backlash in 2 days that they feel the need to make another s5 kills most any argument made in favor of the s5.
[Android General] xeizo:
Thats good news, the more progress the better, doesn't change the fact that S5 is a fine piece of hardware with bad timing and bland looks in a world where bling is everything :rolleyes:

I'm more into using stuff than showing them of so for me the S5 will be perfectly fine! Couldn't care less if I'm not the most popular kid wearing a handset on the street ....

edit. and frankly I don't think those other "prime looking" candidate phones are that pretty either it's a smartphone ffs :p
[Android General] Rippley05:
Yea..Most people are into using as opposed to showing off. It's not like bling makes it unique. The problem here is, using virtually the same features and software in an outdated package. Will you buy the same pair of white tennis shoes every year? Same black t - shirt? Same car? Same movie? Stop acting like people wanting a fresh look is a bad thing. People want to pay for something fresh, that's all.
[Android General] d12unk13astard:
Samsung might have messed up with the s5, regardless tho it will still sell millions simply because most people don't care and we at xda are the minority that do care. It's sad to see that samsung is getting comfortable being top dog right now since now both gs4 & gs5 were very minimal updates from the gs3 and gs4 respectively. It seems they only have taken pride in their note line. Each new note has had a considerable nice upgrade pattern and I do hope they come strong also with the note 4.
[Android General] xeizo:
Well for those using an S4 upgrading is insane anyway, too little progress of course, so Samsung misses those customers. And the fancy customers too. It's their choice. And the Note-line is now the flagship line for those showing off, so it makes sense that the S5 is just a great working smartphone tool for those needing one to use. Samsung must be hoping they are plentiful enough, maybe not, we will see. Iphone have looked virtually the same for many years and a Iphone have been the number one top selling model from any maker for years in it's class ....

But I couldn't be happier if public outcry makes Samsung speed up the development cycle, it would be boring if Smartphones becomes like PC:s with one vendor(Intel) deliberately slowing everything down just because they can(out of lack of competition). Qualcomm is gradually becoming the Intel of smartphones, and Samsung with others just surrenders yik ....
[Android General] :
opinion

It s always seems same sensors. But compare photos taken with Final edition of Xperia Z1 & Demo edition of Xperia Z2.

there s same hardware But different chipset means different cpu, gpu & performance.

so we cannot simply say thr same thing.

there s different with some similarities!

more > better

It s so good and technical idea to buy something u need.

3-2-1 GB RAM

CPU clocked on 2.3-2.5-1GHz !!

normal users (with average knowledge!) just using their smartphone for calling-texting /even not HD games!

so they can also use feature phones.

But If u are little bit gamer there s no doubt that u like phablets. larger screen, best quality of screen, enough RAM and powerful CPU.

and if u are gamer, developer & etc (with high-level knowledge) u use ur phone everything..............

and it means more is better ;)

(All these are my personal opinion!)

:good:
[Android General] Larxia:
I'm not saying that more isn't better, for some people the 2GB to 3GB of ram may be enough of a reason to switch, for me it isn't. When it comes to running apps its an absolute pet peeve of mine to close them when I'm not using them. All I'm saying is the comparison of 'upgrade' from S4 to S5 is much better then Z1 to Z2, and the process in the S5 is slightly faster.

As for the comment about 'phablets' I love big screens on phones. What I don't love is the fact that when you put the Z1 beside the Note 3 they're almost the same size and the Z1 only has a 5inch screen. I'd be happier if they made the screen larger with less of a phone size jump (on both the S5 and the Z2).

Both great phones. Comes down to person preference. I just don't see enough of a change for Z1 users to switch to the Z2 when they've only had their phone half a year.
[Android General] Cyboy:
idk bro! xpressed my xperiences about em

---------- Post added at 05:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 05:33 PM ----------

idk bro! xpressed my xperiences about em

rooting is the final degree easy(i did)
[Android General] :
6 months for a flagship...

Sony says Xperia Z2 is H1 2014 flagship; not sticking to a single design for future models

2 policy of Sony;

1. make Flagship for every 6-months.

2. thinking about different design.

- - - - -

Dear Sony & Samsung

Flagship is not just a phone with some new feature and high-end hardware.

Flagship is Smartphone that have excellent software support beside hardware.

Do you have any policy for it?

(If i want to answer according to your job so far; No u don't have any policy for excellent software support.)

Samsung released S3 om may 2012 with Android 4.0.4 ICS

at end of 2013 it got Android 4.3 JB

>> on Feb.2014 Samsung dropped it for Android 4.4.2

Sony Released Xperia Z and promised for 3.6 linux kernel version! no news about it!

It may get Android 4.4.2 on April & it will be last Android update. (I think)

But if check phones before Xperia Z, like xperia T or S & ... u will realize that they had awful support!

technically they support flagships phones for 1 year! (nothing to say about mid-ranges)

(thr s just hope for nexus devices that have ~2yrs support)

there s policy on market, budget & ... But when u point on good support people will turn to u.

what s ur opinion devs?

:good:
[Android General] :
Now Sound Xperia Z2

nothing to say about Galaxy S5 sound cause it s not something special (Like S4 & Note3)

But 2 Stereo Speaker on Xperia Z2 is very good.

Xperia Z2 VS htc ONE [Sound] /htc ONE has Dual Speaker-Beats Audio sound enhancement

Xperia Z2 is Louder but still htc one is more clear.

But thr s awesome speakers on XZ2 so they can improve quality by Software update.

Xperia Z1 vs Xperia Z2 [Sound Comparison]

Source

Complete Comparison between XZ2 & htcOne /sound

:good:
[Android General] RCJ89:
I am still keeping an eye on the z2 despite the size of it, but first of all I have to see battery performance as on the Z1 it was rubbish despite 3000mah, loud speaker was weak as was ear piece, camera was slow to focus at times and gave off colours, when on the phone and you want to add another call Sony phones don't have a call log, you have to go to phone book which is long, Samsung and HTC you can go to call logs plus headphone volume on Sony phones since xperia s is not loud enough. So I will wait until release to check these things out as it's not about just seeing specs and saying oh this has better specs than the other, as I remember when the xperia t came out people were saying how it was much better than the s3 just because it was faster but in reality it was inferior. Again no call log available when in a phone call, slow focusing camera, very poor battery life, loud speaker and especially earpiece so before jumping to any conclusions I'm waiting to see reviews for both

s5 and z2 for myself before purchasing but im more s5 atm as the I was very disappointed with the Z1 and it does not justify it's 530 price tag at all imo. As for the new HTC if that's how it's going to look good bye as people say the s5 is ugly but at least , it doesn't have a stupid two camera design on the back why can't they just use a normal camera like everyone else, they even put a 13mp camera in their latest mid range be phones desire 801 springs to mind. Plus that ugly on screen button design with the logo underneath and huge space around it is awful imo ruined what would have been a lovely phone as the rest of it looks good
[Android General] deeznuts:
Same here always put a case usually speck candy shell for protection and always lay my phone face down. Thing is though i had an iphone 4 which is glass front and back inside a speck candy shell case, one of the best i think for slim and protection overall. I dropped it from maybe 3 feet off the ground, literally pulled out of my sweater pocket and dropped it. Worked ok but restarted itself, took out of case, see cracks on the corner of the back of the phone around the camera lens. I cannot see any good reason for a glass back or front for a phone. Just an accident waiting to happen!

For those on specs, Z2 will have the snapdragon 801 precessor!!! Look it up, specifically specializes in picture taking abilities i believe so i'm sure will be faster than S5 and also overall suppose to be 30% faster than the 800 chip according to Qualcomm.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/0...presumably-still-using-the-800-is-for-losers/

I'm using the HTC One X+ right now and about time for upgrade coming up. I actually thought about the S5 after reading and watching reviews from the conference. That lasted about 5 minutes though. Z2 is no brainer for me, not going to wait til the end of this year for the G3. Still want to see what this HTC New One is all about but feel it will be a disappointment. Loving also the 3gb of ram on the Z2, how are these new phones not having this???
[Android General] azdine57:
Xperia Z2:

Qualcomm MSM8974-AB (S800 Update. CPU 2.3GHz. GPU 550MHz and eMMC interface 4.5)

Galaxy S5:

Qualcomm MSM8974-AC (S801. CPU 2.5GHz. GPU 578MHz and eMMC interface 5.0)

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7783/...01-msm8974ac-the-new-32bit-flagship-until-805

Envoyé depuis mon SM-N9005 avec Tapatalk
[Android General] deeznuts:
Not sure where you see Snapdragon 800 for the Z2 but here are some facts:

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/127496-samsung-galaxy-s5-vs-sony-xperia-z2-what-s-the-difference

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/02/27/confirmed-xperia-z2-runs-the-snapdragon-801-msm8974-ab-chipset/

http://zeenews.india.com/business/g...-unveiled-to-be-available-in-march_95092.html
[Android General] 開発者:
it s 801 on gsmarena

8974-AB and AC are two edition of 801
[Android General] Sensamic:
Have you guys seen the video of the Z2 front stereo speakers?

They're awesome. Even better than those on the HTC One.
[Android General] :
Previous phones cannot compete with Xperia Z2

Only we can expect that Galaxy S5 with ISOCELL camera and bigger pixel size become real competitor.

Here are sample of Galaxy S5 /indoor-outdoor /HRD on-off

16MP-ISOCELL

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[Android General] RCJ89:
One thing I see everyone doing is saying based on a spec sheet which phone is better than the other and due to looks of the phone, people said the same about the Z1 over the s4 and I was so excited for the Z1 I just pre ordered it it looked fantastic and sounded promising but after having the Z1 I was disappointed not saying the z2 will be the same but the problems I had with the Z1 were slow auto focus and sometimes the quality of the pics looked no better than my s4 at the time, when in calls you can't access call log you have to go to phone book, call log is easier, loud speaker was weak (has been addressed on z2) earpiece was weak also, don't know about z2 yet but very much doubt it. The phone was too big for a 5 inch phone nearly same height as note 3, in headphone sound was only average volume not loud enough (lets home the new noise cancelling tech helps) and that's been a problem with all sony phones since xperia s, no blocking mode for calls and texts like on htc and Samsung, then for a phone with 3000mah battery the battery life was rubbish except for phone calls. So before I cast overall opinion I'm waiting to see if they have fixed the above things I've mentioned but atm I'm favouring s5 and not for the looks as the back of the phone is terrible!!!

next up sony need to stop releasing half year flagships imo it's not fair on their customers especially those who sign contracts with a shiny new so y and then 6 more the later a new one comes out, then if you buy it for 550 which is the same price as the Z1 you again know in 6 months a new one is going to come out. Finally in the UK anyway sony phones don't hold their value well at all when it comes to selling them on. I bought the z2 for 550 last September on release day 16th and by October 20th I took it to carphone to check how much I could get for it for a trade in I was told £218 after just over a month!! While my cousins s4 active which he bought for £400 back in June was £240 trade in. In the end I sold the Z1 for £270 in November as the battery life really got on my nerves, along with the slow focusing and not being able to access a call log when in a phone call (as you can on htc and Samsung) I couldn't even get 300 for it after only two months for a £550 phone. This time around I'm waiting to see reviews of battery life etc before buying any of the next flagships as I can't afford to make the same error again especially as I mentioned sony phones seem to lose value more quickly key than Samsung and htc
[Android General] :
Demo Units Benchmarks [AnTuTu][GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex]

Snapdragon 801 8974-AB vs Snapdragon 801 8974-AC

Galaxy S5

CPU; 2.5GHz*

GPU; 578MHz

Xperia Z2

CPU; 2.3GHz

GPU; 550MHz**

AnTuTu v4

Galaxy S5: 35145

Xperia Z2: 34986

GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex

Xperia Z2: 27.7

Galaxy S5: 27.5

*CPU on Galaxy S5 clocked 0.2GHz higher than Xperia Z2. and there s just 159points more for Galaxy S5.

**GPU on Galaxy S5 clocked 28MHz higher than Xperia Z2 But in GFXBench 2.7 T-Rex Xperia Z2 got 0.2points more than Galaxy S5

>>These scores are from Demo units. SO we cannot judge according to them.

Final Units with Final Optimization are important.

Source

>> Here u can see 0.2GHz different between Xperia and Galaxy CPU. But Xperia has 1GB more in RAM.
[Android General] :
Again Display...

However on Xperia Z, ZL, Z1 & etc we saw lots of new and report about BAD display (Viewing Angle) But this time we can see lots of report about GOOD display.

Now It s about Large Color Gamut.

& maybe it s widest color range support for smartphones.

This Color Gamut is even more than Super-AMOLED displays.

Source

Xperia Z2 vs Z1s; Compare Colors on Display

Xperia Z2 vs Z1 vs Z1c Viewing-Angle

Xperia Z2 vs Galaxy NoteIII (S.AMOLED)

Xperia Z2 vs htc One (M8) Display & Speakers

Display On Xperia Z2 is combination of IPS + Triluminos + Live Colour LED + (In Media: X-Reality engine)
[Android General] Rippley05:
Biggest question..how many carriers will carry the Z2 in the US
[Android General] yahyoh:
seems some of the displays on Z2 kinda crappy and washed out :cyclops:

"This will help giving an rough idea of the variations to expect, which could be a concern given the fact some Z2 panels were washed out or having not as good viewing angles as others. "

https://plus.google.com/u/0/+supercurioFrançoisSimond/posts/JRjhG3YE8Sg
[Android General] :
IPS

Manufactures who are supplier of IPS display;

Sony Professional Display

Japan Display

It s like what Samsung s doing about AMOLED displays.

I think this time Sony will use its own display factory to make this IPS.

:good:
[Android General] boodies:
In my view, there is absolutely no competition other than the design. Samsung either has better components or no comparable features in the Z2. ISOCell being one of the technology not available in the Z2, as well as having a better processor and better ip rating. Heart-rate Monitor will be awesome as well. Does the Z2 have a finger print scanner? If im paying over 500 for a phone in 2014, it better have it. I'm also curious and excited about the simultaneous wifi + lte speeds as I have fully unlimited lte on tmo. Usb 3.0 is also something I require in 2014. As a Note user, i rarely worry about battery life but there are times when i wish I had the ultra power saving mode in the new s5. I heard it can go 24hrs with only 10% battery. Im sure that'll come in handy for a lot of folks. Good luck!