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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
The image quality is improved in 4.4.4. The recent stock of z1c actually fixed the flash bleed but I can't promise but I think should all fixed in US stocks. The digital zoom is much better compared to other android phones because of high pixel counts but it is still a digital zoom.

No one could beat Iphone6 this time really. I seriously doubt Sony will sell z3/z3c soon to fight with Iphone6 in the same time frame, it is just not make sense. Given ip6 will on sales on Sep end, expected z3/z3c to sell on Nov end or even in X'mas hot sales.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] radiohead14:
thanks, tho i saw a rumor about the Z3/Z3c being available by end of Sept also

source: http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_xperia_z3_and_z3_compact_to_be_in_stores_in_september-news-8976.php
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Sony never sell so quick. If you look at the track record from Sony, they usually will announce some new phones on Sep or Oct and start to sell on Nov or Dec. It's more easier to expect the z3/z3c sales date based on the history.

Sony in no way to against Iphone6 but the target of z3 should be Galaxy S5 Alpha(updated cpu with metal body) and rumor said there is a Z3x(6.14") to fight with Note4 later.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Iphone 6 is delayed(rumors say) so we are gonna have quite few more phones from other companies till it comes;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Delay is only on 5.5" size and 4.7" will on schedule but sure we expect the first stock is limited supply.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sichroteph:
Superior auto mode
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ninehneh:
Z1c shot vs Z

First pic ( Shockwave) was taken with Z1c on superior auto mode with flash.

for comparison, the 2nd one was taken with Xperia Z with no flash.

I like how the Z1c has an even flash - i find the Z tends to be harsh with flash on.

Both on latest kitkat builds
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] adammckraken:
I'm really satisfied with this.

[IMG="Pinsir"]http://web.t-online.hu/kantorzadam/DSC_0219.JPG[/IMG]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ninehneh:
oh that's awesome! manual mode? What were your settings?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] adammckraken:
Manual mode, Document "scenery". Picture size is set to 2MP (1920x1080) since I read about it how there is no point in more, because it's just gonna get stretched by the software or something. And I have to admit, that in 2MP I noticed that pictures are sharper, and I really don't need bigger res for anything.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Cecco1970:
Time Shift to Xperia Z1c

I installed I too time shift video

..this a short playlist of 4 videos with some little scenes from Garda Lake (birds and waves) just for try it. I like it, very interesting :D

playlist: http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLH7fvfUNy43xjrkzRYzCwVQbIoxAGLEf8
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] emmanuelrebuta:
Superior auto mode
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] stu15:
Sheffield? :) Lots of colour there to take great shots with!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] neonpsn:
Shoreditch in London but close enough!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] stu15:
Haha, there's a place that looks identical to this in Sheffield, except for a few differences, but I thought that's because it might've changed since the photo was taken!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] swemoza:
The camera in the outdoor is better then my old HTC One X, but sadly not in low light..

You can read clearly the words on that ship..

Edit : Ah, XDA compressed my picture
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I come from HTC One S and used the exactly same camera with you. My z1c does capture more details both indoor and outdoor but the focus is bad on this phone(should be software problem from Sony) so in low light... yes my HTC usually wins the fight.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2730097

You can try 4.4.4 with this mod v7 8MP, the focus should be better now but still not to the level of our HTC.

Only video part is a clear winner because it got 4K recording with mod.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] swemoza:
Still not root my z1c, maybe next month I'll root it and of course I will read how to root this first. All I know is flashing recovery is different with HTC style. Anyway, I love the performance of this little beast..

:)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
The way HTC used to flash kernel and recovery is easier to understand but HTC got S-ON to lock to flash radio and HBoot which is very annoyed though we can also do S-OFF now.

http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z1/development/newroot-z1-t2807092

If you are on 4.4.2, use this tool newroot, it will root and install cwm recovery for you.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54297393&postcount=5

v7 8MP mod will need a 4.4.4 deodexed rom to play with. You can also follow my guide #5 to flash 4.4.4 via flashtool if you not yet received the OTA update from Sony.

If you are on 4.4.2 and check now if any update to 4.4.4 available on your phone. Recommended to do factory reset when upgrade to 4.4.4, I've seen many cases who got wired problem if no reset like battery draining, unstable, camera problem.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] AndroidInsanity:
They say you can get better looking pictures from the 8mp SA rather than 20mp image. This picture proves that theory wrong. Just look how much detail 20mp has. You'll notice which one is the 20mp.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] swemoza:
Thanks mate..

one X until now still didn't have s off due to Tegra 3 processor.

I'll try to root my z1c if I already bored with the stock one..

?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
No, they are correct. 20MP real got more details but more harder to focus and 8MP is always easier to get focus right. The different may minimum at outdoor with good lighting but it is very easy to notice 8MP done a better job on focus at indoor or outdoor cloudy day.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Kostya_83:
cactus flower & budgies
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] amnher:
Guys it seems the red tail light of the vehcle becomes pink.

Why is it so?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sichroteph:
This camera has very good capabilities for B&W post treatment, superior auto used here.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] patoberli:
Auto White Balance probably couldn't guess the light color correct. I recommend you to read some theory about white balance in cameras.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] amnher:
Hmm so I do manual white balance??
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] patoberli:
Yes, but I haven't tested it myself, I don't even know if the Sony is capable of this. In any case you would need a grey-card and you first need to make a picture of that card under the used light (red lights of the car) and then you would select that picture as a white-balance source and then you would make a picture of the car (in your sample).

In other words, it's easier to post-process the picture and change the white balance a little bit. Also with only red light it's near impossible to get the 100% correct colors reproduced.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] akuma2012:
Can you manually adjust the focus or disable autofocus on video filming with the z1c. Its my only issue with the phone. Is it achievable with a rom or something?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
You are not alone but sadly the two function you mentioned only HTC camera got it.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] CAL7:
I happily use my Z1C for snapshots but I know I'm not taking full advantage of its capabilities. I'd appreciate any links to Xperia how-to-use tutorials from the experts here. Thank you!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] akuma2012:
@ TheEndHK

Wow thats unbelievable that you cant do basic control of focus like on a samsung or htc, I might have to take the z1c back...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] patoberli:
Are you sure those focus functions work on a Samsung?

Please note that Android is currently very limited, by design, in it's camera functions. That will change with Android L though.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
You can disable autofocus with fv5 video app,tried it and it works(fixed focus) like on my old o2x;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I only know HTC got Tap to focus/exposure and also focus lock on video camera because my One S got Tap to focus/exp since 4.0.3 plus focus lock since 4.2.2..... Apple and Samsung should have Tap to focus/exp I'm not sure but I'm pretty sure only HTC got focus lock function in video.

Indeed, I can also control the ISO value in video recording on my One S, just pick the ISO value I prefer(100~800) before I shoot video and start recording that's it. Never look down HTC on video part, they are quite tough. But I still like my z1c more because of 4k recording.

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Yup, almost all company only focus on photo and don't real care about video.

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3rd party camera is always feature rich but they will loss the ability to use Bionz so that's not much point to use.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Bionz is crap it seems to;(
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
If you don't use stock camera then it will only use the ISP in the s800 and it is even more crap on focus accurate rate.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Hmm,same for picture?I think fv5 makes better or at least same pic's as stock;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Didn't try fv5 but I've tested Google Camera(which is also a good one for focus) at low light, stock camera definitely got better focus. And only stock cam(with mod) does 4K recording.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
At my point i don't have any 4k monitor so i can't notice any difference so i use only slowmo videos feature;) A better camera and fv5 are really great alternstives for our phone with planty of features(sequence shooting) ;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sander151187:
I know from (sort of) blind testing that stock camera delivers the best results in almost any circumstances. I can provide pics if you want if I'm back at my pc.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] pepo972:
Here's one photo made with Background Defocus... It's a lot, lot better on the phone, but.. :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Would like to see your comparison;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sander151187:
You can find my comparison here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/50762495@N02/sets/72157643904482075/ The pics beginning with 'Orig' are taken with the standard camera app, the ones starting with 'Alt' with Fv5.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Tnx,they doo look better on stock camera,you convinced me ;)

If only someone compares locked and unlocked bl pic's from stock camera on our z1c and that myth will go too :good:

Great work :good:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I got plenty of pics when my phone comes with locked .757 but they are private photo so I can't share. All I can say is as many people claimed the latest 4.4.2(.757) and 4.4.4(.108) does support Bionz on unlocked bootloader. In old firmware, yes... the bionz won't work on unlocked bl.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] micropizza:
I like macro/close ups with this camera :)

(sorry cant remember what settings etc they were done with)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] al5zMri:
:D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] amnher:
Superior auto
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] uchihakurtz:
I agree, macro pictures are beautiful, just leave it with Superior Auto. Check out my album: https://plus.google.com/photos/114200877002987129911/albums/6039255631735246209

Btw, anyone notice how fast and clear image is shown on our Camera viewfinder compared to other phones (even the LG G3)?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sichroteph:
Another fly [emoji1]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] einfachgaer:
Spider! 8 MP manual mode. Click for original size.

[IMG="click for original size"]http://i.imgur.com/gsEQE4U.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] poolmaker:
Timelapse video.

Is it possible to post Vimeo video same way like Youtube video?

With picture representing the link is much better.

LapseIt Timelapse Pro ("summer" sky, Serbia, 2014)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rzlatic:
fun with polarizing filter.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aakash43:
Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Wow!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Photo uploaded in this thread are very awesome. But for me the case is bit different my z1 compact take photos with no detail at all, completely fuzzy pictures. As u can see below.

And sorry about location

[IMG="8MP, Auto"]http://s29.postimg.org/pnyi4yirr/DSC_0058.jpg[/IMG]

[IMG="15MP, ISO400"][/IMG]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Hermantje:
Hey folks!

I'm a hobby photographer, and I'm interested in how capable Sony's latest 20.7 megapixel image sensor actually is.

I've seen Flickr groups for specific devices only and for "Xperia photography" in general but I haven't found one yet that only features all devices with the same (or similar) image sensor.

So I created one :angel:

I'd love to see this group flooded with the best of the best photographs taken with phones featuring this 20.7 megapixel image sensor.

So if you have a couple of nice pictures already on Flickr, taken with either the Xperia Z1, Z1 Compact or Z2, please share them in this group - it would make my day!

https://www.flickr.com/groups/xperiaphotography

Help me help others, by adding photos to show just how capable Sony's 20.7mp camera really is! :cyclops:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] poolmaker:
Sunrise converted to sundown.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Cresqo:
taken using stock with superior auto
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Hydrony:
Great outdoor pictures. But i dont like the low Light camera perfomance of z1c
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kokkss:
First image, Super_Auto
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
This was taken with superior auto (20mpx) and later on filter from Aviary added :)

[IMG="Tree"]http://xdaforums.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=2941577&d=1411044362[/IMG]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
Another photo taken on the move.This one is with superior auto as well.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] poolmaker:
Taken and edited with Clone Yourself - Camera Pro.

Original image is deleted, this one is low resolution copy from facebook,
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] mflow:
Taken using Perfectly Clear Camera on CM11 .

pretty much okay for web-sharing.

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] poolmaker:
Original and edited in PS.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
Taken with superior auto and macro lens from eBay.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] tomn222:
I'm a new user of Z1c. And I have noob question... Where is manual mode in stock ROM (with Iso change etc.)?

Edit: this question was too stupid :P solved
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] RaZoR No1:
Do you guys have any special mods?

Because my Z1C has alot of noise (right word?) in the pictures..
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Lasantha:
Amazing ...

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can you share link for lens pls?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rob rich:
Is your bootloader unlocked?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
Lens

i got this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/Universal-Clip-3in1-Fish-eye-Macro-Wide-Angle-Lens-for-All-phones-iPhone-6-5S-5C-/221544184176?pt=US_Other_Cell_Phone_Accessories&hash=item33950ff970

And no, my bootlader is locked. Bootloader unlock allowed: No sadly. But i use xposed mod which makes superior auto 20,7mpx instead of 8mpx
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] RaZoR No1:
No it's locked.

I have the latest KK and I even tried using different cam mods.. Nothing helped
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ltcdata:
Is it me, or google camera takes better images that sony stock camera?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
It is you. Or conditions are different
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Niallkalipe:
What Kind of lens did you use?

Please can you tell me what kind of lens did you use? I want to buy ones because my camera doesn't focus that good. Every time that I want to do a macro photo everything looks blurry.:confused: or at least the mod that you used:silly:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
Look few posts back. I have provided ebay link
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ltcdata:
Please, tell me if you see them different.

https://mega.co.nz/#!Yl1xBY7K!NwA52e8FrzV822ITF3YloQpO6lvhmJy-z2peI7Bf_qk
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sinple:
Can I doubt check sth? My compact seemed to have lens flare much easier than other phone that I compared, even to other phone like xperia s and z2. Is this common on z1 compact? As long as there is a strong white light, my whole photo's white balance will go crazy, but this din happen in other phone .

PS. the light outside window wasnt even strong light. The sky isnt even in the background.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sichroteph:
Received yesterday the poster I made with this phone when I was in south of France ... Great camera.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] mosespl:
I have excacly the same but all i need to do is to set my phone in other position but minimal change do the job and photo is good
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] qx876:
So, that is that flash bleed?

Without flash

What shall I do? Contact sony or my carrier?

I dont really wanna part with that phone, it can do pics like this which is amazing for an amateur like me.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
That is not a flash bleed,never seen it on my phone;) Flash bleed comes only from one direction and you can paint that with marker;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] mosespl:
Do you have any case on your phone? I have roxfit with transparent back and when using flash it cause something similar but not that much. I use black marker on my case to reduce this and It works almost perfect
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] qx876:
With or without case, same result in any condition. Will try the marker thing.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] AMDFenics:
So i wanna share my first pics, too
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
From my trip to UK
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] amnher:
Playing with background defocus
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] mesang:
I love the phone's camera but people here are right. Superior auto mode sucks balls. I use 15mp manual mode, auto everything and multiple autofocus. In very dark situations I set ISO on high or highest, makes better pictures then superior auto (which isn't superiour AT ALL)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jfox22:
some photo with my Z1C
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] patoberli:
Please note that you should not use the Z1C in Salt Water (without any special additional protection) as the metal contacts corrode. It's also stated in the manual ;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Cecco1970:
Spiders

Spider: macro shots (no good images for aracno phobic) :p

If you do not like spiders, do not click.. jumping spider (with wide lens)

If you do not like spiders, do not click.. jumping spider (with macro lens)

If you do not like spiders, do not click.. spider tiger (with fisheye lens)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] :
Surfers paradise :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Hydrony:
Some low light shots i did yesterday
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] LaZiODROID:
Your photo is great. I bought the same 3-in-1 lens set after seeing your post. Photos taken with the other 2 lenses (wide angle and fisheye) come out pretty crappy. The macro lens is neat though. Took a pic of the tip of a pin, and even though I get a circular haze around, the detail on the subject is pretty good.

[IMG="tip of a pin macro lens xperia z1 compact"]http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/laziopics/pin2-DSC_2441_zps0554ed8b.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Cecco1970:
Some photos, one video (TSV underwater!)

[IMG="amazing trail"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-bSO82itKF4E/VFFD0CD489I/AAAAAAABGoU/E2YsNQfSP-U/w213-h378-no/2014-10-29-AltroVivere%2B%2819%29.JPG[/IMG]:D[IMG="Rocks underwater"]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-c30RbRVnIDw/VFZqb1cyt5I/AAAAAAABHnU/0o1vsuiJTmQ/w284-h378-no/2014-11-02-Lazise%2B%2833%29_1.jpg[/IMG]

If you like this image, you have to watch this little video in time shift! (porting from Z2)

http://youtu.be/bGB7Qt2So68

Other photo

[IMG="White horse at sunset"]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-rqivAsi4zT0/VFJ8fi51LuI/AAAAAAABG5M/tVb4aqaqxgk/w457-h328-no/2014-10-30-Custoza%2B%2824%29_1.jpg[/IMG] Used zoom lens X 8

[IMG="seagulls"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-HCKt8tlt9KY/VFSRNGtFeQI/AAAAAAABHdg/vSJzTU_wXZA/w456-h207-no/2014-10-17-LidoBrema%2B%28159%29_a.jpg[/IMG] Used zoom lens X 18

[IMG="Sirmione Castle (Italy, Garda lake)"]https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-ajH8dm-13KY/VEF5ikNatvI/AAAAAAABD1I/tLN-rAmKD1Y/w457-h258-no/2014-10-17-LidoBrema%2B%28283%29.JPG[/IMG] Used zoom lens X 18
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] shaufen:
Woow realy nice pics :good:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
Which ones? :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] uchihakurtz:
Macro Shots with this baby always impress me. Machine and Nature.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] david320te:
First of all: Yes, i know the Z1C is capable of nice Photos. But don't start to compare them...

Which is what i did. And i have to say, it's absolutely disappointing. I've compared it to the Nokia N8, the 808 and my Razr HD. Even the Razr HD is capable of producing "better" Photos and i always said, that it has a bad Camera. Nokia N8 and 808 are comparable to my DSLR in very good light. Sure - if i shoot RAW-Photos with the DSLR and edit them, there is no comparison.

But I'm convinced, that the Problems with the Xperia Cam's are Software related, because the IMX214 Sensor with the G-Lense in the OnePlus One is capable of producing absolutely stunning photos - even with my quite high standards. How can it be, that the Bigger(!) IMX220 that we have in the Xperia Z's isn't even in the same class?

IMHO it boils down to JPEG-Artifacts and over sharpening. Most shots are (in comparison - stand alone they are not that bad!) absolutely horrible - at least with my shots and I'm really disappointed. Landscape Photos are very nice, but as soon as there are trees or "sharp" edges (like Antennas or steeples) - it's over. Especially in low light.

I think Sony should go the way, that OnePlus has gone: Give the Power-Users the ability, to get the very best out of the Sensor, without any messing around with the RAW-Data...those algorithms Sony has are terrible. Compared to the Nokia N8, 808 and very cheap compact cameras of course...compared to other Smartphones it's not as bad. But that isn't what i was expecting from all the fuss around the camera :(
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] eldarkh98:
New mosque Minor in Tashkent, superior auto mode
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
Camera

The thing is, Z1(c) superior auto is crap at shoosing correct wb and ISO. If you want nice looking images, shoot manual. Also its a phone... If you want great quality, buy DSLR :) camera just an addon on phones
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] david320te:
Manual Photos are also crap. And no: The argument "it's just a phone" doesn't work here, because other phones with nearly the same Sony Chip produce astonishing photos. Also: Nokia N8 and 808 are also "just phones"...and i HAVE a DSLR...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Sindigo:
Then you are bad at it if manual sucks
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] david320te:
Don't troll on a serious topic, please -.-

And since you are talking absolute crap, you haven't read my post at all.