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[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks for your thoughts!

I thought about making reports visible through some web interface later (after cloud synchronisation will be implemented).

OCR would be nice indeed. Cant say anything about recognition libs yet, but its sure have to be included in longterm plans.

'Real' was my first variant, but my friend told me that Fact should be use instead because he saw it inside some Microsoft app :) Should i switch it back? Even more problems will arise when there will be more translations - and there will be no short words at all... I plan to make online translation service (as i made for my another application - http://vitiy.info/public-localizator-web-service-for-online-localization-of-applications/) to translate the app to wide variety of languages.

I will try to get as much useful features as possible from that app you mentioned, as it looks like old project with big budget. I will not create client for blackberry in near future (not sure i will make my engine to support this platform at all as their sells fall rapidly)

Thanks for your suggestions again :)
[Android Apps and Games] Just_s:
Again, thanks for a prompt reply, it is impressive.

I agree with your thinking regarding the reports, it will be a good addition and much more logical after you have finished the cloud implementation.

The OCR is really a wish list item, but if you can make it happen at some point, and make it work well unlike most other apps, your app would be hard to beat.

The Real, True, Actual label thing is just personal preference. I think you should go with what you feel comfortable with and the users can adapt. I will say however that these three terms are far more common in relation to costs/budget/etc. in the business world than Fact, which I've actually never seen used relative to an expense sheet or budget. Again, I think this comes down to your perogative.

The Xpenser app is as you mentioned a very mature product. It was actually 2008 that I started using it not 2003, but still it's been around awhile. I was definitely not recommending any development for Blackberry, just mentioning how far ahead of the game Xpenser was, having a mobile expense tracker before iOS or Android had any market penetration. It is really just a great example of simplicity married with functionality and might give you some ideas on various methods/opportunities for data gathering and input.

Anyway, I am going to use TripBudget over the next few weeks and see how it works for real world trips and planning. Best of luck!
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
About OCR - right, the main problem is to make it work well.

I will write about the list of ideas i might borrow from Xpenser when ill finish exploring it.

Please write any ideas which will come up while you will use the app in real situations. Im sure there will be a lot of things to add/fix.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot for your attention and suggestions.

There is very thin line between trip organizer and expense logger, especially when logger has strong 'plan' part. So i will add as many organizer features as i can while maintaining simplicity of the application.

Surely, the ability to change date of expense will be added (as its not a big problem to implement).

About the mode when you have some kind of timetable - i have to think how its possible to integrate it. Any suggestions are welcome on that part.

About 'Meal' - may be good word. May be to add restaurant / cafe. As for transport - may be ability to add custom categories would be nice (but im not sure what to do with icons yet).

Forecast is possible feature to add - but im not sure where to place it. And what to do if your trip contains several places?
[Android Apps and Games] mentalinc:
Great looking app.

It would be great if you could add the following two features:

A) Sum all trips to show total spent and budgeted

i.e. I'm budgeting a multiple city holiday, with a total overall budget I'd like to track.

If the "The LIST OF TRIPS" page had a sum at the bottom for plan and Fact for each of the holidays would be perfect.

B) Also the ability to enter my own FX rates for the currency exchange.. i.e. the market rate isn't what I paid so the conversion to my local currency is to high or low...

Keep up the good work.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot for your suggestions.

A) is possible - and its not a problem to count the sum. B) Custom currency rates is a good idea as ECB might provide wrong rates in comparison with local banks. This might be added inside trip options.
[Android Apps and Games] icestage:
Hi,

First of all... Congratulation...

is it possible to had graph torno summarize the various expences?

Something like a cake graph or bar graph...

Many thanks and Good job
[Android Apps and Games] medo94:
Great design!
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks for your suggestion. The bar graph is in plans - the only uncertain part is where to place it - probably at the end of expense list.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot :victory:
[Android Apps and Games] medo94:
I will encourage you to do just budget app for every day use ;)
[Android Apps and Games] MobyDick92:
Really a great APP for tripaholics :)
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
If this app will be successful - thats may be an option. :)
[Android Apps and Games] lesliescott06:
This is a pretty impressive tool to keep good track of the expenses and manage the same. I liked the interface and navigation part more importantly.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks, i hope to improve it even more.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
UPDATE v1.007-1.008

The count of supported currencies was greatly increased (and there are several data sources now). Also you can now enter custom currency exchange rates for each trip.

The currency selectors were considerably changed – now its alphabetic list and the most used currencies will go up to the top of the list for easy usage.

App now uses standard android keyboard (the ‘custom’ keyboard was there as part of engine – now it should support standard android keyboard).

Also you can delete old trips now (long press on trip list to see delete dialog).

When you enter new expense the chosen currency is now stored and will be automatically restored when you enter next expense.

Any further suggestions/bug reports are still highly welcome :)
[Android Apps and Games] supermamie:
It seems you forgot a little currency : Euro

/me start to plan next trip

Edit : Euro is in your screenshot, I'll upload a screenshot from my phone asap
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
May be it is at the top of the list? - as the most used currencies are located at the top. Im investigating the problem right now.
[Android Apps and Games] supermamie:
Now it is available (between ETB and GBP)

Strange. Do the currency list come from an online service?

"Envoyé depuis mon Nexus 5 avec Tapatalk"
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Strange indeed. I cant reproduce the bug. The extended list is requested from web service, but Euro is base currency and should be listed by default in any case.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
One minor question - was it clean installation or you updated the app?
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
This functionality was added in last update - please check if everything is ok. Note that custom rates can be separately set for each trip.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
UPDATE v1.009 - Last patch contains urgent stability fixes for launch in offline mode

I got reports that application might hang when you launch it when device has no internet connection (which can be quite possible situation in trip). So i made last minor update aimed to fix this situation. However update was not tested deep enough - so please report any hangs / problems.
[Android Apps and Games] supermamie:
It was an update.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Than lets suppose it was incorrect reading of old incomplete currency cache file (as last update had a lot of new data). Please inform me if anything strange will happen again.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Patch v1.010 will bring new horizontal layout today
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Update v1.010

For better usability at horizontal layout the design has been refactored. When your device is landscape oriented the upper bar moves to left side to make the scrollable area fit all height of the screen. So the expense entry keyboard is supposed to fit without any scrolling.

The settings now have new ‘suggestions’ section from which you can go to the forums (XDA for 'en' locale) and write your ideas. Big thanks for all who will do it.

1.010

+ major support for horizontal layouts (tablets)

+ fixes for currency updates

+ new suggestions section at settings
[Android Apps and Games] lesliescott06:
This tool looks pretty intuitive. The interface is awesome and I am sure about the navigation as well to be outstanding. Giving it a try will surely work out as per the convenience in the business platform.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks, will try to improve it further.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Incoming features

Here is small preview of what coming inside next update (which is coming very soon).

Next version will contain two major improvements – multiple users and money sources.

Money sources contain such types as debit cards, credit cards and cash. When you log expense in ‘real’ spending mode the amount will be converted into currency of source automatically and will be subtracted from selected source balance. This will help to track your estimate sources during your journey.

Each trip now has additional section in options where you can add the participants to the list.

When you entering expense you can select who was participating in each spending action. Its also possible to set for who you have to pay if you have to pay not only for yourself. For example, if you are travelling as couple with pair of your friends, you still have to pay for your companion only – which makes 50% of 4 ppl expense and this is possible to track easily now. You also can select money source as DEBT from another participant (the list to track your debts will be added as well).
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
New version 1.012 is on market - UPDATE

+ group trips - add the list of participants to trips and track shared expenses and debts

+ money sources - track balance of your credit cards/cash resources

+ new default categories - visa, breakfast, snacks, coffee, lunch, medical, network

+ expense entry was modified for more user-friendly usage
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
In latest update new "collective trip" features were introduced. The list of expenses was improved to support new expense parameters – you can see expenses grouped by participants (to see overall spent amount and total debts) and also check impact on your money source in corresponding section. Clicking on each source or participant will provide the list of connected expenses.

So now you can effectively track collective expenses and easily count total debts.

Any thoughts on further improvement are welcome. :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Next update 1.013 will contain ability to add custom expense categories. Anyway, if you have any idea what should be definitely included into basic default list, please write it here.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
v1.013 UPDATE

New version adds ability to add custom expense categories. You can find new configurable list inside application settings.

There is also ability to hide selected categories from front panel. I will add some screens later.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Attached screens contain new section inside application settings - expense categories. Any suggestions are welcome.
[Android Apps and Games] bnwg:
I tried for the current trip. It's good. But adding the feature of editing date and time of entry would be great!
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Please, update to the recent version (1.014) - it has ability to change the date of entered expense. Just click on time at expense description and you will see the calendar where it is possible to select day.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
v1.014 UPDATE

+ Ability to attach photos to expenses

+ Grouping by days and categories in expense lists

+ Time-based graphs for expenses

+ Ability to change the date of expense

+ New expense list formats
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
1.015

+ support of immersive mode under Android 4.4

+ new functions for money sources (add balance, delete)
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Screenshot of TripBudget 1.015 in immersive mode under Android 4.4:

Status bar is translucent and overlays main screen. Ugly navigation bar at bottom is hidden (on devices where hardware buttons are missing).
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Translating

If anybody want to help with translating interface to one of the following languages -

Bulgarian, Danish, German, Spanish, Finnish, Franch, Croatian, Hungarian, Indonesian, Italian, Lithuanian, Latvian, Norwegian, Dutch, Polish, Portuguese, Romanian, Slovak, Slovenian, Serbian, Swedish, Turkish, Ukrainian, Vietnamese

- there is web interface for easy and fast translation here: http://vitiy.info/localization/tripbudget/

Thanks a lot for your help!

ps. Cloud synchronization update is coming soon.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
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[Android Apps and Games] ebbe_k:
A couple of suggestions

Hi

I have just installed the program and here are my first impressions:

The interface looks very nice provided you are in shadow. Outdoors it is more or less impossible to see anything even if the weather is slightly cloudy and this is with backlight turned up to max.

I want my back button back. Sliding up from the bottom does not work for me because I have another program (Quick Control Settngd) that is triggered this way.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot for your response (and registration efforts)

- Now at setting there is ability to change scale of elements to make everything bigger. As for heavy light conditions - there are plans to create additional settings for UI (fonts intensity, white background, etc). Also there is idea to use light sensor to change some UI properties depending on light conditions.

- Are you speaking of the way to quit the app or about going through the pages? As for navigation: when you go to any inner page there are two back buttons - at upper panel and at end of content.
[Android Apps and Games] ebbe_k:
I'll look forward to a white background theme. As for autoamtically adjusting UI properties make sure such a feature can be turned off in case it clashes with other utilities with more or less the same purpose.

I want the back button (and the other buttons) back because I don't want to have to look for them. When I use my phone I use those buttons all the time and as I described swiping up the bottom of the screen is not an option for me. So at least make it possible to turn the full screen mode off.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Yes, its making sense to make all interface modifications customisable.

About back buttons - I guess the best solution will be to make special option for users without hardware keys to not hide bottom panel.
[Android Apps and Games] rafukish:
suggestion

I'd like to add a suggestion to this thread. First of all I want to congratulate you for your great app. I love it.

I appreciate the differentiation between planned expenses and real expenses. But I think it would be very helpful to have an option that enables us to copy the exact amount we added to the planned expenses list to the real expenses list.

We sometimes end up wasting more or less money than we firstly planned. But many times some of the expenses are as we planned.

This happens, for example, when I add the planned expense for a flight, and then I finally pay that much.

A simple discrete button allowing us to automatically copy an amount from one list to the other would be so much appreciated. It's annoying to write the same thing twice.

Or an option to hide the whole planned expense feature. In my case, I'm using the app to control my actual travel expenses.

Thank you very much for your help and time.

P.S. Are you planning on translating the app to other languages? Have you considered doing this through crowdsourced translation pages like getlocalization.com or crowdin.net?

P.S. 2. Spanish would be great!

P.S. 3. I'm happy to hear you are working on Cloud syncronization!

P.S. 4. I only just noticed you've created a so very awesome localization tool. Congrats for that!!

Greets!
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot for your suggestions and high rates. I hope the localization tool (located here) will help to provide many translations soon enough.

Yes, the ability to clone expense from planned list to actual list will be added for sure. I totally agree that typing the same numbers twice is annoying.

Thanks again.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks to you and guys from NL we will have dutch and spanish language support right inside the next patch. Thanks a lot!
[Android Apps and Games] Simeonn:
Hy,

I really like your application so I decided to add french translation using the link in the first thread.

I decided not to put everything because I don't want to put wrong translation.

Hope it'll help!

PS : It's French not Franch :D
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot for your help. I hope to add as many languages as possible to the app so people could enjoy it.

By the way there is ability to suggest new translations for existing strings.

PS: I corrected the typo - sorry for that. :)
[Android Apps and Games] Simeonn:
I'll try to add as much translation as I can.

PS : I can't blame you, my english isn't good enough for that :P Thanks for adding the ability to include a lot of languages. Your interface is really nice! Hope a lot will do the same ;)

---------- Post added at 08:56 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:30 PM ----------

I finally decided to translate everything so it's possible to edit if a better translation is available. Hope I did no translation mistake ;)

Continue on your way! That's a great app!
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot. I will include the translation anyway in the next update (if there are some translation errors - i think they are not critical and we will fix them later).

ps. There is no word 'plan' in french? (May be its better to leave it instead of PREV.?)
[Android Apps and Games] Simeonn:
I will try to read it again this weekend if I can, to be sure of any translation, this time with your app launched to be sure. I surely passed over some too quickly.

I'll let you know ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
I plan to release swift update today - containing the following things:

+ New languages: español, french and dutch

+ Ability to enter fraction of expense value

+ Fix for crash while setting currency rates

+ Application now has default cache for currency rates

+ Clicking on currency at main tabs opens currency options

+ Additional exit button under Immersive mode

+ Modification of tabs for better usability

I only changed PREV. to PLAN. I think we can correct it after.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
UPDATE 1.016 is on market. Contains fixes and new languages:

Whats new:

+ New languages: español, french and dutch

+ Ability to enter fraction of expense value

+ Fix for crash while setting currency rates

+ Application now has default cache for currency rates

+ Clicking on currency at main tabs opens currency options

+ Additional exit button under Immersive mode

+ Modification of tabs for better usability
[Android Apps and Games] Simeonn:
Updated! Having text on screen will help me find better translation ;)
[Android Apps and Games] djimne:
Could do more

I like it, but I still feel like it could do more for you, it kinda feels a tad incomplete, but don't get me wrong, it's still an amazing app
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks for response. If application will be requested and supported by users - more features will be added to make it closer to full perfection. Anyway here you can suggest what additional functions you want to see implemented.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
UPDATE 1.017 - Minor swift fixes

- Fixed issue - when trying to change currency of unnamed money source app will no longer crash

- Fixed minor issue with editing decimal expense values
[Android Apps and Games] Simeonn:
Hi Vitiy!

Just to inform you I've updated the french localization with better translation and some mistakes. Seeing it in the app helped a lot.

Unfortunately, I can't help you with another language (for the moment maybe :D). Hope you'll find people.

Just a question, what is the difference between CARD and CREDIT CARD?

;)
[Android Apps and Games] ThePureHeart:
It should say 'Budget' and 'Actual'

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[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot for your corrections.

Credit card has positive limit value (instead of initial balance) and slightly different indication to easier identify the source you are using. By CARD i mean general debit card.
[Android Apps and Games] Simeonn:
Okay, this way.

I better understand now. I'll try to find a better translation if I can.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks a lot. Inform me when you are finished so i will update the resources. Are your translation fixes critical or i can wait a bit with update?
[Android Apps and Games] Simeonn:
You're welcome. There is no need to update asap. I'll inform you when everything will be fine ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
Thanks for suggestion. The main point is to make it the shortest possible way to make the tabs smaller. But may be tabs will be modified somehow.
[Android Apps and Games] rocker1983:
Italian is DONE!

Inviato dal mio SM-P605 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
THANKS a LOT! I will upload it to market as soon as possible.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitiy:
UPDATE v1.018 "Italian update" is on market

+ Italian language

+ Fixes for french language

+ Minor fix for date editing
[Android Apps and Games] rocker1983:
Hi!

glad to be helpfull!

I just checked the app, and now that I can see "the whole picture" I've found some minor mistakes :

- MAIN PAGE (at the bottom) where you can SHARE or RATE the app ----in this case RATE (previously translated as TASSO) should be translated as - VOTA-.....the same occurs within the page "YOUR SUGGESTION" but in this case it would be better translated as "VALUTA"

- the string "add to logged expenses" translated as "AGGIUNGERE ALLE SPESE REGISTRATE" would be better as "AGGIUNGERE ALLE SPESE EFFETTUATE"

- the string "all" (as seen below every categories) seems not being translated and it would be "TUTTE" but within the "expenses page" would fit better as "TOTALE"

- where you can choose how to pay (MONEY SOURCE/MY WALLET/ALL DEBTS) it seems not being translated..in this case it could be "CHI PAGA?"/"MIO PORTAFOGLIO"/"PRESTITO"

- the previously tranlsation of "LENDER" is right but it sounds awful in italian...if you accept a longer transalation it would be better "PERSONA CHE PAGA"

- the string "TAX/DISCOUNT,%" in this case, if it is referred to the use of a credit card, "tax" should be translated as "COMMISSIONI"

- where you can choose "money sources",when it comes to edit it "debit card" is translated just as "CARTA" while it should be "CARTA DI DEBITO"...............also credit card" seems not being tranlsated on every pages

I hope to have made myself clear enough...I did not edit the strings because in some cases I don't know "what changes what" being the same word on multiple strings.

As soon as you'll make the proper corrections I'd check the app again.