yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahithlal:
download ftf rom then flash it with flashtool....
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Asitman09:
Can i have a link :) thank you God Bless
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahithlal:
link

here is the complete rom list for x10 select it based on ur country or select the first one the international version download then flah it with flashtool http:// xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1749426
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Asitman09:
God Bless You Thank you :)
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AbubakarA:
I have the Problem too but me stop the Flashtool on: "Flashing Data"
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vvk1987:
sorry for intruding ,but i am also facing the same problem with little vibration & green LED flashing nothing can be seen on screen

if you allow me i will use this space for flash-tool log so senior members can help us :D

19/027/2014 01:27:11 - INFO - <- This level is successfully initialized

19/027/2014 01:27:11 - INFO - Flashtool Version 0.9.14.0 built on 12-02-2014 22:45:00

19/027/2014 01:27:18 - INFO - Device disconnected

19/027/2014 01:27:59 - INFO - Selected Bundle for X10i. FW release : 3.0.1.G.0.75. Customization : GLOBAL-GGL GENERIC 1232-9897

19/027/2014 01:27:59 - INFO - Preparing files for flashing

19/028/2014 01:28:23 - INFO - Please connect your device into flashmode.

19/028/2014 01:28:37 - INFO - Device connected in flash mode

19/028/2014 01:28:37 - INFO - Opening device for R/W

19/028/2014 01:28:38 - INFO - Reading device information

19/028/2014 01:28:38 - INFO - Phone ready for flashmode operations.

19/028/2014 01:28:38 - INFO - Current device : X10i - CB511P6EAM - 1232-0808_R2B - 1227-4612_2.0.A.0.504 - WORLD-1-4-8_2.0.A.0.504

19/028/2014 01:28:38 - INFO - Start Flashing

19/028/2014 01:28:38 - INFO - Processing loader.sin

19/028/2014 01:28:38 - INFO - Checking header

19/028/2014 01:28:38 - INFO - Flashing data

19/028/2014 01:28:39 - INFO - Loader : S1_Loader_Root_f851 - Version : R4A024 / Boot version : R8A031 / Bootloader status : UNROOTABLE

19/028/2014 01:28:39 - INFO - Disabling final data verification check

19/028/2014 01:28:39 - INFO - Processing kernel.sin

19/028/2014 01:28:39 - INFO - Checking header

19/028/2014 01:28:39 - INFO - Flashing data

19/028/2014 01:28:42 - INFO - Ending flash session

19/028/2014 01:28:42 - ERROR -

19/028/2014 01:28:42 - ERROR - Error flashing. Aborted

19/028/2014 01:28:42 - INFO - Device connected in flash mode

19/028/2014 01:28:43 - INFO - Device disconnected

19/028/2014 01:28:44 - INFO - Device connected in flash mode
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dr Goodvibes:
Your bootloader is locked.

This means you can only flash original Sony GB 2.3 ROM via SEUS, PC Companion or flashtool if you have a ftf version.

If you are going to install other ROMs you must make sure you are using the LOCKED bootloader version of the ROM/Kernel

IF

one is available.

If you are able to unlock your device, I would strongly advise it.
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vvk1987:
I have tried to unlock the bootloader but its also showing some error
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahithlal:
u welcome...
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] chamjp:
Please help to fix my sony xperia x10 (SO-01B) boot issue

Please help me

When I bought sony xperia x10 (SO-01B) it had rooted to SO-01C then I rooted SO-01B then It worked fine for sometime then again I found it was not booted then I tried removing the battery and switching it ON again but at the start , theres just a small vibration and some time long vibration after that no activity absolutely nothing on the screen ..what could be the problem ?? Please help :(

Is it problem with boot loader, can it fix with flash tool,

I tried to get complete rom list for x10 from your link [http:// xdaforums.com/sho....php?t=1749426] but it didn't work can u provide me a link to get these rom downloaded.

Thank you
[XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mahithlal:
I think its the problem with bootloader.

And the rom list link is perfectly working...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1749426

And here is the Xperia_X10i_3.0.1.G.0.75_GLOBAL Generic firmware mediafire download link

www.mediafire.com/download/vy4v24ditk4lsxa/Xperia_X10i_3.0.1.G.0.75_GLOBAL-GGL_GENERIC_1232-9897.rar

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[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stirlin:
Hi all,

Just updated to Sony's latest offering .266 and, obviously, lost ROOT access.

Has anyone any info on how to re-root? I am on a locked bootloader and cannot unlock it.

Please advise? I have lost all of my custom settings and cannot change until I have root access. :(
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xeust:
There's no root method for locked bootloader for 4.3 as for now. Or you can try the root method by sir [MENTION=5396325]jancsessz[/MENTION] tho you'll need to downgrade it back to 4.1.2. Didn't work for me tho but worth a try :silly:

Here's the link http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2646904
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Stirlin:
I saw that, but it requires root access/CWM first which I dont have... :(
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xeust:
Soo first you'd want to downgrade to 4.1.2 which can be easily done using flashtool

And then use Doomlord's method. This one is for .245 and .254

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2405933

When you've done rooting you'll need CWM. Not sure about the original thread but here's the download link

http://d-h.st/Las

Extract and run the install.bat after rooting and you'll get both root access and CWM

Then follow the tutorial from earlier to update to 4.3 and voila! :victory:
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mrjraider:
It is a new update. Why are we so unpatience? Let the developers work on this!
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jackaros:
Be patient my friend it just went out.Doomlord and the other developers will be working like crazy to root the new firmware and in about 3 days you are going to run 4.3 rooted :D
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] ArobeeTV:
I'm getting a Galaxy Note 8 (N5110) pretty soon, and I understand the stock TouchWiz kind of sucks, so I want to go with a custom ROM when I root.

My biggest concern is maintaining all of the S Pen functionality, because on top of using this as a general media tablet, I also plan to use it as a digitizer on my PC, making use of the pressure sensitivity and all as well. Granted, I could do with losing SOME of the features, but I'd like to keep or improve upon the majority of them.

Seeing as I'm new to this website, the way the forums are laid out is still taking some getting used to. I was wondering if anyone knows of any ROMs that would fit what I'm looking for? It doesn't have to be exact, I understand that's expecting too much. Also, I don't care if it's on 4.2.2 or on 4.4, I'm going to listen to your suggestions.

Thank you in advance for any help.

Rob

EDIT: After looking around more, I realize I probably sound like an idiot. I don't intend to, naturally, and I'm more than willing to learn. I just don't know how to phrase things properly for this yet. Apologies if it creates any confusion as to what the crap I'm talking about lol.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] CCallahan:
Threw you a thanks to say "welcome to XDA". As for your question, I don't think you can go wrong with this rom:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2367151

It has been time tested and the rom creator incorporates his own kernel as well so no surprises. Everything works and think you will like the added functionality such as easy battery icon customization, floating multiwindows, and many other enhancements. I have been running this since day one with my Note and no issues at all.
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] ArobeeTV:
Thanks for the reply, the thanks, and the welcome! I look forward to getting more into the XDA community, especially after I get my tablet and can really start the fun!

That ROM looks pretty good, I like the features. I assume these ROMs are primarily a personal preference type thing, eh? Not so much a "best" one out there, only ROMs that are best for you? Providing it doesn't do any harm to the tablet, I'll probably try a bunch of ROMs, see what I like, and since this one was suggested, I'll make it first on the list :D
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] Jamie T:
Spen works with any CM ROM I've tried so far.. That is just the pen and pressure sensitivity and nothing else.. So I'm on slimkat and the pen works.. Just no exfat support yet
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] Samavb:
Another alternative

Hi,

You can try X-Note Rom 5.1 too. It has many features and customizations that might just fit your needs . Plus this ROM gives Excellent battery life. I got 7 days of battery life with 9 hours screen on time most of the time and on average 8 and half to 9 hours screen on time without any power saving or flight mode. I have customized my N5100 (3G and Wifi) on this ROM.

This ROM is based on Samsung 4.2.2 with all S pen features.

Cheers!

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2345299
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] gooberdude:
Civato has a great ROM, but I am not impressed with loosing any built-in functions missed out on Custom ROMs. There is not a single custom ROM that is fully complete with features.

GT-N5110 & GT-N5120 - 64GB 633x on board, Status Official on SafeRooted OEM ROMs with Wanam Xposed and RootCloak. The only way to fly 8+ hours!

This badboy don't play with Play & Triangle away!
[Galaxy Note 8.0 (Tablet) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooti] glockman4519:
There is an app in the play store Called ( CM S Pen Add-on Root ) that allows a CM Rom to recognize your S-pen if you are going to go the CM based Roms. It is still not as good as the original on touch wiz. You will have to have an app like Papyrus if you want that S note like feel too. But there is no way yet to get the true use of the S pen feature on your tablet if you are not on Touch Wiz.
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
reserved again... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] joehanh88:
keep it up :thumbup:!
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] nebixts:
[MENTION=379038]sit[/MENTION]fire,

dear friends...

you're doing great...

nice share bro...

:good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] unclefab:
Selamat!

Aku sudah mencoba berbagai cara untuk menimbulkan navbar (mengedit SystemUi alias metode gharrington, mengedit framework-res.apk dll), tapi setiap kali gagal:(

Padahal aku lumayan tahu pakai apktool, dan tidak ada error waktu recompile, tapi setelah filenya dipush kembali ke dalam system dan hpnya direboot aku mendapat FC.

Kalau anda tidak keberatan mungkin anda bisa mod SystemUI.apk ku?

Linknya:

http://d-h.st/TQN

Terima kasih banyak!:)

(In english:

hi,

I have aready tried different ways to enable the navbar, (editing the SystemUi ala gharrington, editing framework-res.apk etc.) but everytime it fails.

I'm not too bad at using apktool, and I don't get any recompile errors, but everytime I push the file back into the system and reboot I get FC.

If you don't mind maybe you cold mod my SystemUI?

Here's the link:

http://d-h.st/TQN

Thanks a lot!)
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
Try to decomplit and complete it back then fix the error when try to complete. ..

Sent from my GT-I9205

---------- Post added at 08:35 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:33 PM ----------

Did you fine the torchlight and rip with ink effect. ...

Sent from my GT-I9205
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
did you edit build.prop as I said above?

I'd try with sgm 6.3 too & it works perfectly...

please read the guide slowly & carefully bro...

not yet bro...any link as reference,so I can compare it?thanks...
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] unclefab:
Of course I've edited build.prop!

Some months ago I had followed gharrington's method to enable the navbar on my galaxy grand and it worked, and it's actually an easy mod.

But for some reasons it doesn't work on my mega 6.3.

That's why I uploaded my systemui here, I would be interested to see if you can make it work, and in case you do I'll be even more interested to see how you did it.

Believe me, I've tried different ways and I know how to use apktool, it's not my first mod but still, I couldn't make it work.

Thanks in advance for any help:)
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
here's a proved a made a navbar on galaxy mega 6.3.

http://xdaforums.com/editpost.php?do=editpost&p=50488102

download systemui.apk in my post on that thread & compare it with yours.

you have posted in that thread too...and you said you delete the line "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" and my guide add that line.

I can't download your ui because my data plan limited right now.I wanna upload a huge files now...maybe next time I help you bro...sorry & thanks...
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
for torchlight able follow this guidehttp://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2355931

for ink effect on ripple lockscreen here

i have mode this on my rom CML1... but the torchlight is not a wake i check logcat, i should active the framework file but dont know where to fine it
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
Mod guide

the guide work on me i9205

[MENTION=5205643]sitifire[/MENTION] see my screen short ink effect...

if you want a small ampm in status bar just add systemui:ampmSmall="true"

SystemUI/res/layout/status_bar.xml

<com.android.systemui.statusbar.policy.Clock android:textSize="@dimen/status_bar_clock_text_size" android:textColor="#ffffffff" android:ellipsize="none" android:gravity="left|center" android:id="@id/clock" android:paddingLeft="3.0dip" android:layout_width="wrap_content" android:layout_height="fill_parent" android:singleLine="true" android:includeFontPadding="false" systemui:ampmSmall="true" />

if you want to make date 2 line in the status bar expanded header

1. add this at SystemUI/res/values/strings.xml

<string name="status_bar_date_format_day_month">"EEEE
d MMMM yyyy"</string>
<string name="status_bar_date_format_month_day">"EEEE
MMMM d yyyy"</string>

2 add this at SystemUI/res/layout/status_bar_expanded_headerr.xml android:maxLines="2"

<com.android.systemui.statusbar.policy.DateView android:textAppearance="@style/TextAppearance.StatusBar.Expanded.Date" android:textColor="@color/notification_header_date_color" android:gravity="bottom" android:id="@id/date" android:layout_width="wrap_content" android:layout_height="fill_parent" android:layout_marginLeft="8.0dip" android:layout_marginRight="4.0dip" android:layout_marginBottom="@dimen/notification_panel_header_date_margin_bottom" android:maxLines="2" />

Thank you

i will help you if i seat in frond my laptop if on my hp sorry to say...

i also have some mod about add 10 battry icon witch 1% incress. using og battry mod HOW TO ( folow this, is as simpele as 123 :) )

and how to add speed meter on status bar on this Galaxy Mega Themes and Apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
greats...thanks bro...I'll try it,hope get lucky following ink effect's guide... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
It work but ink effect are so little, need more test on it...I dont have much time buzy on dev a kernel.... hey do you want how to build a kernel:D:D
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
here's bro... http://www.mediafire.com/?xxmaqxo26rsdjka

Don't forget to add

qemu.hw.mainkeys=0

in the end of your build.prop

report back it works or not.thanks...
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
not test it yet bro...?a bit busy on works... I don't know about making custom kernel... :(
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
For your phone I much I easy the are a repo aready u shuld set up you pc to ubuntu 12.04lts and set up android environment...
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
I don't know anything about linux and ubuntu bro...even in windows I just know office only... :(

could you make custom kernel for my device please... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
I shuld ask permission k2wl on this first ohter wise it will be a same as i9205 kernel I build....
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
ok bro...k2wl ever made a kernel for my device but not add other features yet.same as stock kernel but its works...hope he and you could add others feature like oc and ram management...thanks bro...
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
welcome bro...glad to know it works on yours... and thanks for adding some guide too... I just a noob which just followed other guides in XDA... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
Can u help me i want the partition info so you can flash with cwmrecovery or twpr...

Open terminal emulator

su

ls -al /dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
Sorry for my late reply bro...got extra works on my office last 2 days... :(

I can't used that command on terminal emulator.there's no such file on directory.....but I'd pm you & gave a flashable zip that contain boot.img by [MENTION=943196]k2wl[/MENTION] . flashable zip was made by [MENTION=4327728]Rittik[/MENTION]. I hope it can help you and offcourse big thanks for you too bro for helping me... :D
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
remember bacup first :):D

if all working we are on i will open thret
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
not lucky yet bro...got bootloop after flashing it on cwm... :)
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] shazzl:
ok mayby i shuld change the tool change
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
finally can make a custom rom... :D

thread : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2678826

thanks...
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] zamlkawy:
dears

i follow this topic in me GT-I9152 but after it

cannot find status bar

cannot add any background

all what i did is .. move systemui.apk to system/app and replace using root explorer ... then the mobile restarted and after restart that happens

so kindly help me to resolve

thanks
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] sitifire:
had u set right permissions for Systemui & edit build.prop to add "qemu.hw.mainkeys=0" ?
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] zamlkawy:
no i didn't

do you think that will help ???
[Samsung Galaxy Mega] TONY6669:
cant get the clock center mod to work no matter what I try Samsung mega sph-l600
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] manny_:
Hey guys been going at this for about 14 hours

Story

flashed amazing android hd 3.1 thinking i had 5.1, when i realized that, i downloaded 5.1 and flashed it. Seemed to work except as soon as phone began to boot i got a pink screen followed by the htc and beats audio screen (logos were different colors) at this point it wouldn't do anything else.

I rebooted and went in recovery (twrp 2.6.3.0) and wiped cache, tried re flashing and same thing so i went in twrp (im a nweb haven't done this since i had my hero) formatted the data. Yes everything was gone no OS to boot from so i tried using sideloader but it wouldnt go past start up process i resorted to using adb, i pushed the amazing android 3.1 rom and flashed it. everything seemed to go fine. Seemed to boot, when i went to unlock the screen to set the phone up it just rebooted, it kept doing that over and over. Installed insert coin rom and did the same thing. idk what else to do :/ tried loading stock ruu but it gave me a fail message (cant remember what it was)

I never made any back ups as i didnt care about losing any data

Would appreciate some help guys

Im on mac and windows 7
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] Sloth:
Can you list what it says in your bootloader?
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] manny_:
THANKS FOR THE QUICK RESPONSE

TAMPERED

UNLOCKED

M7_WLS PVT SHIP S-ON RH

HBOOT-1.56.0000

OPENDSP-v32.120.274.0909

OS-4.06.651.4

eMMC-boot 2048MB

dang, all caps lol
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] Sloth:
There is no RUU for 4.06.651.4 :(

However you can use this guide to fix your phone :D

Any questions PM or post here
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] manny_:
thanks, im about to give it a shot
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] manny_:
good morning lol

ok since im on s-on 4.06 do i skip this?

If you are S-OFF flash the 3.04 s-off firmware or 3.05 s-off firmware or 3.05.651.6 s-off firmware or 4.06.651.4 s-off firmware and you are done. If you are already on 4.06.651.4 you will have to flash the 3.05.651.6 s-off firmware first...reason being is the 4.06 s-off firmware does not have the latest radio included (use the same commands from 5.)

1.Download the 3.04 s-on firmware or 3.05 s-on firmware or 3.05.651.6 s-on firmware or 4.06.651.4 s-on firmware

2.Rename it firmware.zip (put the firmware.zip into the platform tools folder or the folder attached below)

3.Boot to bootloader

4.Lock bootloader(fastboot oem lock)

5.Then use these commands:

and go straight to this?

7.Then unlock the bootloader again and re-flash TWRP 2.6.3.0. (before formatting go to setting/screen and disable screen timeout)

8.Within TWRP 2.6.3.0 select Wipe > Format Data(it will ask you to confirm by typing YES) once done adb push a rom to your phone (adb push nameofrom.zip /sdcard/ ).

8a. If you are using the 4.06.651.4 s-on firmware I would suggest you push this Stock Rooted Odexed Rom to your device or it may not boot.

8b. After flashing the 4.06.651.4 rom you will most likely need to flash the latest radio because the 4.06 firmware does not have a radio included find it HERE

9.Optional but recommended: S-OFF using Rumrunner or Firewater

10.Win lol
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] manny_:
:') thank you so much

Im about to do revone then flash amazing android hd google experience 6.1

Is there anything i should be doing to avoid this again?
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] Sloth:
Make sure the International roms you flash have Sprint support (does android hd google experience 6.1 have Sprint support yet?)

Also S-OFF it will save you headaches in the future
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] manny_:
you are right, is there any google experience 4.4.2 roms that you can recommend?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2183023

this one says sprint support in the tittle but says "For HTC One International GSM/LTE (UL), International GSM (U), all U.S. carriers (apart from Sprint)" inside

thats actually the rom i flashed that got me in the situation :\
[Sprint HTC One (M7)] Sloth:
[ROM]★☆★Nocturnal GE CDMA|4.4.2|1/19/2014|★☆★

★☆★[ROM] Team Nocturnal xR1|SPRINT|Odex|Pure Vanilla|KitKat|Dec 18th 2013|★☆★

Check the threads and make sure there are no issues for folks on the latest OTA
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ornobohornish:
I am using note 3, whwn ever I am trying to install any zip of cyanogenmod all rom are saying during installation, my device is not for hlte, it is for hltexx"

So is there any cyanogenmod or AOKP rom for hlte note 3 N9005?
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaythenut:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2201860

try this recovery and are you on 4.3 tw

or look here http://xdaforums.com/note-3-tmobile/development
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iliasker:
i today unlockd my bootloader and soffed an accidently in recovery mode i deletet all the files including sccard and now i have no rom to flash and without sd card i dont know how to put a rom from bootloader to my sd card. anybody know pleas help
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Black-FR:
Boot into the recovery, and connect the device with the pc.

Then you place the ROM.ZIP into your SDK tools (adb.exe , fastboot.exe....) Folder.

Then open a cmd window and navigate to your SDK folder.

There type the following command:

adb push ROM.ZIP /sdcard/

After it's finished, you could flash the ROM via the recovery.

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[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iliasker:
it tells me error device not found and that is the problem i think i dont know why
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iliasker:
it tells me error devise not found and that is the problem i dont know why
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iliasker:
it is not find my device at all i tryied everything
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Black-FR:
Which operating system Do you use?

If it's Windows 8 / 8.1, then you should search some in the forum.

It's often complicated, to get adb working, with 8 or 8.1.

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[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] iliasker:
8.1...... but i have unlocked my htc one with it it schoulld work.....