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[Android General] 180jacob:
Have had this phone for a few days now and love it, especially with all the mods you guys have provided, big thank you. I to had similar symptoms with the battery on vanilla, currently trying a recalibration. Also I to have the hissing noise at zero volume. This is present on both the headphones or the speaker an occurs whilst the phone is trying to play sounds whilst on zero volume. I found this is along on my star n9770 mt5677 phone but nowhere near as bad. Any suggestions for a fix would be much appreciated. Thanks again.
[Android General] sokolataki:
i hope devs help us fix bugs from vanilla rom because is very good rom and can install xposed and gravity box

i also have the problem with sound but i think the bigger problem is battery
[Android General] 180jacob:
progress on audio fault

Ok so the battery is still on the discharge part of the calibration, will see weather it charges to 4.2v or 4.35v when its empty.

As for the noise from the speaker I have been doing some investigation, whilst the noise isn't too annoying, it will be using a lot of power creating white noise whilst the phone is mute. It appears this problem is present on most phones however the settings and quality of the amp and digital-analogue converter are much better on most devices thus the white noise isn't noticeable. this is all explained very well in this post.

So for some reason the amp and DAC is being powered up even when the phone is mute and no sound is being played. Im not that clued up on this stuff but I assume the amp is powered up when an app gives the requestAudioFocus() or something like that. most mute apps i've tried don't break this mechanism and you still get the hiss when the phone is supposedly muted. However, I tried the 'app settings' module on xposed and the app mute does completely mute most apps, as in it somehow prevents the amp and DAC from powering up and thus prevents the hiss and potentially saving battery. By looking at the source I think it does this by preventing the audio from playing (findAndHookMethod(AudioTrack.class, "play", XC_MethodReplacement.returnConstant(null)) this works well with most audio like that from games however would also prevent a video from playing such as in youtube thus the module just turns the volume own for videos and we still get the hiss.

As for a solution one way would be to adapt whats used in that xposed module and make it operate across all apps when the volume is set to zero, and/or make a fix in the kernel (if thats even possible) to tweak the settings described in the link to make it hiss less.

I have no idea how to do either of these and don't currently have the time to learn (I'm an apprentice aerospace electronics engineer) but would appreciate a fix and would be willing to help where I can in testing.
[Android General] satiros:
the phone is very far from perfect

today (i live in greece) not on a very hot day i left it in the car to charge and found it closed and it wouldnt boot until i med it cooler

fyi

the hissing sound

the lags

the light sensor (for me and a small group at list)

gps and bluetooth problems

and probable thermal issues

i think thl should see in those and give us a better rom

or let me sell and geT RID OF IT
[Android General] 180jacob:
Keep in mind you would be lucky to get perfection even if you spent 5x as much, if you listed every fault reported about a branded phone the list would be just as long especially when you start moding things, I think for the price I cant ask for any more.
[Android General] satiros:
that opinion is correct up to a point

zte967s didnt have one problem though

also this list has purpose

new user should be aware of those
[Android General] acidspunk:
Mine has none of these issues. Besides, leaving it in the car in a hot day CHARGING and then complaining it overheated? Really?
[Android General] elsita:
I have made the tests and I also have the hissing sound, but really I can't see why this is such a problem to anybody, what is the purpose of playing some music/sound/video/audio aplication and turning volume off ?????? except maybe with some games that have no sound settings included it really makes no sense to me, i have not tried if it happens also with games, but what I have tried is pausing the music player, then there is no hiss, wether the volume is high or low ... so really, although it may look like an engeeniering problem (software probably) I really cannot see the point in trying to solve it because its relevance is close to zero, if you want to watch a youtube video muted, I think the power wasted by the hissing sound is ridiculous comparing with that used to download and actually reproduce de video ...

we all want our devices to be perfect, but believe me, with today hardware, son complex and with so many different elements to control ant take into account, perfection simply does not exist, nor in thl neither in samsung, apple or nexus
[Android General] 180jacob:
Agreed, it was just out of interest that I was investigating this. Its interesting that zero volume on the phone still powers up the amp when sound tries to play. As you say, the only real application is for games without mute which is easily fixed with the xposed module.
[Android General] peter_90:
battery

Does anybody know a higher capacity battery, compatible with this phone?

Thanks!
[Android General] Goregr:
Maybe your phone has problem.

Becuase my phone has no lags , no hissing sound , sensors works perfect , gps and bluetooth is perfect , and there it has no thermal issues.

i am very happy with ThL w200s .
[Android General] acidspunk:
The w200s does not have NFC.
[Android General] satiros:
thank you 4 your input

besides your phone other phone have issues

can you please operate gps and talk on the phone with bluetooth?

have you tried it ?

also have you tried the thermal condition?

and please reffer how?

thank you again

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there is no bigger batttery at the moment
[Android General] 180jacob:
camera settings dont save

Ok this could just be me being stupid but when I change to 4/3 I can set the camera to 13mp as is well established, I can then switch to widescreen and take a nice 13mp widescreen shot, then if I close the camera app and open it back up again it's back to 1mp, do I have to change it every time or is there something I'm missing? thanks in advanced
[Android General] acidspunk:
You're using the vanilla experience rom, right? You have to leave it at 4/3 or else it won't save settings. Widescreen mode just seems to crop the pictures anyway.
[Android General] 180jacob:
Thanks for the info, ye I wasn't expecting it to do anymore than crop, but I like them pre-croped so it fits the screen on pretty much every device anyone uses these days, I mean who actually has a 4/3 monitor or TV or phone. Thanks for the reply
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
Hello you all,

Im a proud new user of a THL W200S, i came from a Galaxy Nexus, and until now, i dont miss GNex, well i am looking forward for some ROM's to try, which rom is the best in your opinion?
[Android General] peter_90:
I'm waiting for my w200s :D.

What Nexus did u have before?
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
Samsung Galaxy Nexus as i said before :)
[Android General] peter_90:
My bad... I was thinking about the Google Nexus :)).

What do u thing about the thl compared to the previous phone?
[Android General] infest:
There's a new miui rom for w200s at needrom. Just gave it a very quick try, and most things seem to be working fine. Though I must have been dead tired last night, cause I can't remember if the storage problem was fixed...

Anyways, went back to stock rom after a little while, because it just seemed a little bit faster and smoother than miui. I wouldn't call it slow or anything, but it was just a hair slower in basically everything, and I did not like that. I guess it's because it is so heavily skinned.
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
But what you mean for Google Nexus, there are five versions of nexus: HTC Nexus One, Samsung Nexus S, Samsung Galaxy Nexus, LG Nexus 4, LG Nexus 5. Mine is the third nexus, i had it for 2 years.

I dont miss Nexus at all, im very happy with THL, i hope so he does not faulty xD

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Hi, i need some help, i've installed Xposed Framework but Phone dont boot, i tried to do a factory reset but factory Mode is ir chineses ano i dont understand nothing . Can someone help me?
[Android General] miljenko:
You should read thread a bit before doing such move. Xposed doesn't work on stock rom. Since obviously you don't have CWM or TWRP FlashTool is only option for you.
[Android General] 180jacob:
another small bugs I have with vanilla, don't really need fixing, just interested if i'm the only one with this or if others have it aswell.

video camera is dreadful at auto focusing. will spontaneously auto-unfocus, then when you touch the screen it re-focuses fine for a short period before unfocusing again.

This is fine on stock rom so im not fussed about it being investigated or fixed, just pointing it out. its such a shame xposed doesnt work on stock otherwise stock would be perfect in my opinion
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
So you mean, i i flash stock rom with flashtools everything will be alright?
[Android General] miljenko:
Correctly
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
Ok, thank you, i will try this now, i just have Debian and Windows 8.1, i hope Windows 8.1 drivers will not interfer with this...
[Android General] miljenko:
There is a problem with preloader driver install because phone stays at preloader mode only few a seconds and if there is no response from FlashTools mode is closed. Best way is to have drivers prepared and to wait on device manager to install them manually.
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
I can do this, but i cant find the correct preloader driver....

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I've got that ahahah tank you man, and it was not necessary to flash the entire ROM, i just flash TWRP and then"Xposed-Disabler-Recovery.zip"

and it boots :)
[Android General] 180jacob:
could you tell me what calibration app you used? I tried one but it still only charged to 4.2V currently running stock so it isn't urgent but it would be interesting to try, thanks.
[Android General] elsita:
I go to 4.35 with stock rom and no calibration after trying vanilla
[Android General] sokolataki:
I try too much times to make my battery work as it work with stock Rom I can't do it I made calibration but the battery has the same problem. When it has 20% after 5 minutes the Somme turn off . Sorry I can't use vanilla with that problem. It is a very good Rom that we can install xposed but battery problem is very important to me. If we can fix it I will flash it again
[Android General] satiros:
the truth is there is no rom option thats not based on stock and can charge the battery And keep the memory size true

guess what we are stuck with stock!

i believe thl havent or never will adress problems the hissing sound or even give an update

you just have to buy the next phone

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thats why we should buy phones with a team that supports them like xiaomi or others with cyanomod support
[Android General] Goregr:
Yes w200s is great.

For me is the best because as a device is perfect without any problems.

You should buy one asap.
[Android General] elsita:
xiaomi's miui interface is a copy of iphone's look and feel,:mad: I don't like it at all
[Android General] satiros:
well its a matter of how you perceive it

if someone wants to buy my w200s from greece im available

the phone is far from perfect

unless someone fixes the rom somehow
[Android General] RSGI:
Not sure about perfect...

But is a good phone in fact.

And the price of it is very good... But perfect? I wouldn't go that far...

Enviado do meu ThL W200S através de Tapatalk
[Android General] infest:
I just gave miui another shot, and there are no problems with memory. Phone storage is indeed available. But the stock theme is kinda weird, it's got russian letters in the dialer and in the task switcher... Though i suppose you could change to another theme and those will be gone. Also, the front camera doesn't seem to work. Whatsapp also. I'll stick with stock for now. Just wish it had xposed....

Besides that, I'm loving this phone. Great performance, beautiful screen, no issues with the proximity sensor. Get's a little bit hot when playing something like Modern Combat 4 ( runs it perfectly smooth ), but that's a pretty demanding game, so I won't complain.
[Android General] 180jacob:
xposed may never work on stock

I was looking at the xposed thread on xda and saw this bit

looking deeper into it I also found this

can anyone confirm whether our device runs this Aliyun OS they speak of?

Thanks,
[Android General] Vonnegut:
If that's Aliyun OS or not, there no official word about that.

Anyway, each and every THL ocatacore come with a framework that it's not clearly an AOSP one.

Check it out. You'll find jar.jex instead of jar.dex (that J stands for JAZZ, the compiler which replaces the old good JIT).

Moreover all of the .jar files size is just 1 KB (like they were symbolic links to garantee retrocompatibilty for the android apps).

There is no chance that this framework will work Xposed and there is no chance that Rovo will ever waste his time to code an Xposed release for this framework. They never released any specs of this framework and they never will do...so there's no way to write code for this framework (even if Rovo was willing to waste his free time for chinaphones).

As far as i've read that's exactly what's happening with ART (the new experimental compiler released by Google with Kitkat).

Anyway, when Google will release the specs (after ART will be stable), Rovo will support it (i hope so).

THL and Zopo (and maybe other chinaphone brands) took a very weird decision in employing such an OS (which is so different form AOSP that we can't name it Android anymore). Coupling that with the fact that MTK doesn't release info and specs about their chip, there won't be any custom development at all.

Only chances for improvment are:

A) waiting for MTK + THL releasing updates (and they aren't famous for great support to say the least, though rumors say that MTK is gonna release a new kernel supporting kitkat very soon)

B) hoping for a good port

Case A) it's a sad news, because users will have to rely on that.

Case B) is also bad news 'cause no porting worked very well so far

I have a THL W200 and i was so happy to have an AOSP ROM. No need for custom ROM as long as i can improve the stock ROM with Xposed. Now they screwed up everything with that framework and i'm definitily looking for a better device.

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Did you try to edit the build.prop with notepad++?

ro.product.locale.language=ru ---> ro.product.locale.language=en

ro.product.locale.region=RU ---> ro.product.locale.region=EN

Maybe that could help
[Android General] satiros:
thank you for the insight !

as i said better we stick with brand phones

i gonna get rid of this phone asap
[Android General] acidspunk:
Satiros why aren't you even considering sending it to get repaired under waranty? The problems you keep complaining about need to be fixed under warranty and not with software updates. Stuff like speaker hissing sounds and proximity sensor problems.
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
Hey guys,

I have a problem here, im on stock ROM and i cant use GPS, my problem isn't that i can't fix satellites, but is that my GPS seems dead... when i open an application that uses GPS (maps and navigation apps, or that ones to test GPS fixing) it never fixes and never shows that blinking circle on status bar. I think that is an Software problem, because, when GPS is turned off and i open an app that use GPS, it asks me to turn GPS on, but when i turn GPS on nothing happens. Someone have an idea?
[Android General] miljenko:
Enter Engineering menu by typing *#35789#* or using Mobile Uncle, slide to Location, than to Location Based Service and turn ON GPS. Also in this menu you can activate A-gps and update Epo files from internet.
[Android General] peter_90:
This morning, when i activated my wlan, i received a notification, " your time is close enough", but it dissapeared immediately.

Do you have any ideea what it is?
[Android General] Krystyna:
Is there a way to play songs over the car radio on an FM frequency like many of the portable navigation GPS devices?
[Android General] miljenko:
It nothing, auto time update is enabled.
[Android General] miljenko:
This is not portable GPS it is phone, and only few older Nokia phones have FM transmitter installed. Buy external FM transmitter for this function.
[Android General] sappy11:
Lucky patcher and Busybox

Hi everyone..., a few days ago I bought this excellent phone..., I rooted it like miljenko said (thanks - "pozdrav iz Osijeka, svaka čast majstore")..., and everything is running like a charm even without any custom ROM installed....(my antutu score is about 27700, battery lasts almost 48 hours on normal usage (i turned off 3G, sink is always on, wi-fi also on, and bluetooth is like 8 hours a day on)

and I have a question...

For some reason I use Lucky patcher, mostly for blocking annoying commercials., but every time I use "Lucky" warns that it can not find Busybox and it can not continue to operate, but a superuser grant permition to Lucky Patcher and I can use it without problems...

Question is do I really need Busybox...., and how nobody else asks this, did anyone put Busybox on THL W200S..!??
[Android General] DavidSalgueiro:
Hi, i've tried this yesterday, but when i touch "DOWNLOAD EPO" button nothing happens. I will try a few more things, if i can't fix this, i will backup everything with titanium and reflash stock rom, or another...

For those who are saying stock rom is something called "Aliyun OS" i saw on needrom today, a ROM called PUREAOSP for W200S, does anyone know if it is safe?
[Android General] infest:
Flashed miljenko's mlais os rom, so far it's very fast and smooth. Everything that I tried seems to work on it, but I think that it may have that battery bug that some people were reporting on the vanilla exp rom. After a full charge the first ten percent drop way too fast, compared to stock.
[Android General] 180jacob:
I also got the message on lucky, bear in mind (for the purpose of xda rules) the only legitimate use I've come across for lucky is improving battery by breaking the add fetching apps and for using apps that the adds make unusable given a specific screen size, anyway I installed busy box and it didn't seem to cause any problems, I don't have lucky installed so can't say if the message is gone but you can make a backup and give it a go pretty sure it won't break anything.
[Android General] sappy11:
Thaks 180jacob..:good:

One more question...

:confused: Where is the default instalation folder for Busybox on THL W200S - system/ bin or xbin...., lately I mess up other phone internal memory so...., please 180jacob or someone who already installed Busybox to direct me to do it right...

Thanks....
[Android General] 180jacob:
Yay my first 'thanks' , anyway, I installed to system/xbin doesn't appear to have caused any problems, all partitions are the same size as they used to be and I can read and write to them.
[Android General] Coolgreek:
Hi guys... Got my new THL W200S phone since Friday, very happy with it so far:cool:. Everything seems to work ok.

So far with stock rom (rooted and CWM recovery flashed). I would like to change the stock modem to a better one (like the ZP998 modem that the Vanilla rom use). Could someone make a cwm flashable zip file or provide me a modem.bin to make a cwm flashable file (i read that i can take any flashable cwm zip file and just change the modem.bin to the one we want - and it will work if it is a compatible modem to our phone).

Thank you :good:.

PS: would be grateful if Mijenco could provide a solution :) but i know that since he is away it's difficult for him to make such files or even provide solutions...
[Android General] Krystyna:
What about android 4.4? will it be available for w200s? thanks
[Android General] Dobrev172:
Hi there.

* I have a THL v200S after I tried to change the firmware, I screwed it up. I tried with JIG . but I can not put him in download or recovery mode. If you have any idea how I can get it back to life.

After launching shows the logo and then black screen.
[Android General] sappy11:
I have read this thread from beginning to the very end ... and I do not have any problems (described from another owners) with my device.

Even with working GPS (Gps test locked 8 from 12 satelites in 4-10 seconds) bluetooth is working properly and I can talk on my bt speaker without any interference.

The battery lasts with moderate use (wi-fi constantly on, bluetooth about 8 hours a day, synchronization is enabled for one account, a little bit of internet, messaging, Hangouts, about 1 hour a day of talks, and of curse

3G off

) about 48 hours. Led notification is working normally and there is no additional battery consumption ...

Original stock ROM is on the device, no need to put any other ..., the device simply works perfectly. I just root it and put CWM in order to backup the device and that's it ... and of course Busybox.

Antutu score is about 27700...

I am a very happy owner of this wonderful device...:laugh:
[Android General] 180jacob:
Nice to be reading a positive post, I agree it truly is a brilliant device even before considering its price! as you say GPS is very quick (compared to my last phone anyway) I'm surprised your LED worked out the box, was the only real problem with mine, although the fix isnt exactly difficult anyway. I think the gripe most people have with stock (including myself) is that xposed wont work and its not kitkat (yet... he hopes) but anyway 4.2 offers shed loads more features and customization than iOS and there are still phones sold with gingerbread so on the scheme of things we arent too hard done by.
[Android General] Coolgreek:
Totally agree with you. My phone works perfectly too!

Proximity sensor was Ok out of the box (although even if it isn'e there are some easy steps to fix it), Bluetooth+GPS works ok together as well (tested in 2 ways, 1) while gps is on and running gps test i send files to another phone using bluetooth 2)bluetooth handsfree while making a call + Gps test with gps on). Battery is ok too (battery on 90% now after 22 hours with 25 minutes calls and 30 minutes screen on -no gps,bluetooth or wifi engaged but with one sim on standby the hole time).

however there are 2 things i would like to see fixed:

1) the sound using handsfree is bad, and it is not only because of the "cheapy" handsfree

2) the light sensor could work a bit better, mine stays too bright when in dark

And plus what [MENTION=5346759]180jacob[/MENTION] said, would love to see android 4.4 on my phone!
[Android General] sokolataki:
try this

try that rom is perfect if someone want xposed and bravity box no bugs http://www.needrom.com/mobile/w200s-pureaosp/
[Android General] 180jacob:
Can you confirm the battery charges to 4.35v if it does I am willing to give it a go.
[Android General] sokolataki:
the battery is perfect for that rom

i install it after that i charge it full 4.351v

after i calibrate it and battery is very good as stock rom. try it
[Android General] elsita:
someone says magnetic sensor (compass) is not working, could you check it out please?
[Android General] sokolataki:
its working for me
[Android General] 180jacob:
Can't wait to try it, won't have time until the weekend, or I could neglect work commitments...
[Android General] Augustine02:
THL W200S phone where I can close the email notification ringtone? thank you