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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I will say no point to stick with Sony if you don't like to use the amazing scene mode. My S6 blows Z1c in every way got far better result. However, there are still times when auto/manual on S6 not good when dealing with complex scenes and this is the time my Z1c kicks in and the only chance to counterattack S6.

The scene is a fine tuned preset mode for specific environment and this is what the S6 lacks of(comes with very seldom modes only got like sport or food). The Sony indeed done an excellent job in this area and hold my Z1c(was thinking to sell it out) and even thinking to swap to Z5c bcoz I much love the scenes in Sony but I scared S810 overheating and no OIS, probably will stay with Z1c plus S6 for a real long time though.

If you don't have the interesting to access the scene mode, believe me, switch to S6 will have a day and night different.

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Well, you set the DSC_0082 can't be access without permission.

It's normal. Lumia usually got better Sony lens(Carl Zeiss), a working OIS and way better focus(though not at that fast with S6 or Iphone).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] maninder singh bali:
here is the link https://drive.google.com/file/d/0Bz9f3QhQfJ-fR3dPSVphUXMyb0U/view?usp=sharing
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] GenTarkin:
Um no way in hell Im switching phones LOL! The z1c is better than S6 in every single way for my needs. S6 is just another oversized phablet like every damn phone out there nowadays. Thats the reason I went w/ z1c - flagship hardware in a tiny package.

I will try to use scene modes =) ... I notice the night scene mode vs superior auto v4 ISO priority, the superior auto v4 ISO priority beat out night mode in taking a picture in my darkish room.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
.... S6 is a bit bigger but it is the world smallest of 5.1" size, if you said it phablet it is very ridiculous. :eek: Do you actually see a real S6?

Well, night scene seems to be taking a sequence of photo with low iso and slow shutter speed and combined all together to do optimizing. You'll need a tripod to use it. There is a night portrait with slightly higher iso and shutter speed though.

If you do want to shoot photo by handheld and easy, I think the v4 iso priority should be better.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Can you pls explain what scenes do on z1c?I have played with it and i really can't notice special difference on or of;) tnx
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Many scenes are useful but you get to know how or when to use it, some experiences is needed in it, they are just some presets not for all anyway. Sometimes it may not has different but in some environments it can create a surprise. So, mostly they are only used to create surprise in some specific places, general use isn't suitable and I'll much prefer a S6 for that.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] vetko:
I would buy this as a compact camera replacement... I know I could get a better camera for better pictures, but in my case this would be the point: to get rid of two different devices (phone used for GPS + etc, camera used for photography), and use only the phone for all tasks to ease the burden of carrying a lot of things with me to my trips (nature, abroad) or for day-to-day life (street, work, party, etc). I know it wouldn't be the same quality as a (semi-)professional separate camera, but I don't want to have too much things to carry on my trips.

So the question better would be: is this phone a lot worse than other phones regarding the low-light performance?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ro_explorer:
It is by far the best phone I ever owned in terms of overall performance. Camera is a big bonus. However, even if you are considering replacing a compact camera with this smartphone you need to keep in mid the total lack of manual controls as well as no optical zoom.

If you can live without those (I know I can not) then you can safely ditch the compact :).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sander151187:
I think this is a pretty good example of how bad the compression algorithm is.. At the tree you can see the blurring happen. I think the whole story about camera 'bugs' is all a matter of the jpeg compression that is going on. If there would only be a means to save photo's in raw/png format, or with lower compression rates..
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ro_explorer:
I totally agree. That why I'm shooting in manual mode, 20MP and then resize it on the computer.

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Ok .... here we go ... all the possible tests on good light conditions :)

Approx. the same scene, same day, same time (original photos, in their original resolution):

Z1C - Superior auto + (8MP)

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2842/13378616895_84f550e849_o.jpg

Z1C - Manual mode (20MP)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2847/13380389494_3cd8e457cf_o.jpg

NEX-5R (kit lens, Av F8, 16MP)

https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2837/13380389374_0541053e52_o.jpg

Now, you can decide if you like this cameraphone or not :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] vetko:
If there wouldn't be compression/post-processing noise on the pictures of Z1C (those vertical/horizontal white/black lines and some digital blurriness) I would say I like the pictures of Z1C more :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ro_explorer:
The framing with the NEX is different ... more sky in the view, therefore lower exposure (average metering). Otherwise, there is no way you can compare the quality of the pictures .. NEX is far more superior (which is to be expected).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Arup ZR:
If thats the case get the cheaper ZR and get the QX-100, the later matches DSLR quality and you will have convenience of your phone and compactness of the QX package.

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I would agree and I have been using 808, then 1020 along with Xperia Active, Ion, ZR and now Z1.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] baineteo:
Here's a picture I took (right out of camera with cropping only) on a clear day.

It doesn't seem to resize, so i'm posting the link here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2978000/On Forums/IMG_20140323_172636.JPG
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bionder:
Someone ask me here or in other thread to take a picture to the sky in a completely dark place with no ambient light around me... Here's the result with AUTO mode + Flash...

I wouldn't take a picture like this with auto mode but for those who want to see how it goes here it is.

We can see that there is still flashbleed in this picture, even with 4.4 (KK).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] bilboa1:
the nex picture is way better in all regards - of course.

that said, it looks like there's not enough bandwidth from the sensor's jpeg capture/send at 20MP with a good jpeg compression level, which would result in the blurry pics.. hence the better 8MP pics. that'd also mean there's no software fix and that the 20MP is just a marketing gimmick :|

Stuff controlling this is in https://github.com/CyanogenMod/android_device_sony_amami/blob/cm-11.0/proprietary-files.txt. Sometimes its possible to hex in values to request documented or undocumented camera modes, but, i'd be surprised ;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] papzi57:
Different app

Different app: different method
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] slick2404:
nvm
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sinple:
Just wanna share from what i observed for my compact regarding led bleeding. My led bleeding only happen at the preview part of the camera on the screen. After the photo is taken, the photo does not suffer from any light bleeding. I took many photos further than 2 metres already
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] peua79:
mee too!!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ro_explorer:
Pretty noisy in low light... but OK overall. Cheers!

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] LaZiODROID:
Auto mode ain't so bad
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] KL643:
Love the camera :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] vetko:
Just purchased, flash bleed present

After receiving the phone today, the first thing I tried was the camera pointed at the sky at night with flash on. Unfortunatelly I do also have (on a black model) the flash bleeding. I'm a little bit dissapointed... From any other point of view, the phone is just amazing. But this bleeding it's a bit frustrating.

Finally, do we have any evidence that there are instances of this phone that do not have the flash bleeding issue? I mean from people that are properly tested it:

Phone camera pointed towards the night dark sky, without any objects in scope, with flash ON. In other circumstances (when objects are in scope) it may happen that enough light reaches the sensor in order to lower the ISO and the flash bleed may dissapear.​

I do have pretty serious bleed though, even when photographing not-so-distant buildings (10-20m) that are somewhat illuminated. Will post photos tomorrow.

Could anyone proove given the above described method that he/she does not have the flash bleed? It would be really important for me, because I would send this phone back to change it for another, hoping for better luck, if I would know that this issue is not general.

Thank you very much.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] KL643:
Serious...why does everybody want's to make a s*tty night shot of the sky?? Yes, I can make a "bleeding" picture aswell..no problem. After that I switch off the flash and shoot again. Guess what, great picture :)

With flash

And without flash
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] vetko:
Wait a minute, I was not asking evidence (night-sky-picture) from people who know that they have flash bleed, I was referring to the ones who say that they don't have it. And the best method for clearing out this uncertainty is the sky-picture method! Anyway, thanks for the photos.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Airborntx:
on V4 mod with stock enh lp lads !

DSC_0333 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/airborntx/, on Flickr

DSC_0336 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/airborntx/, on Flickr

DSC_0335 by https://www.flickr.com/photos/airborntx/, on Flickr
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] tenjou_89:
8mpx stock camera CM12.1 nightly

I am amazed that cm nightlies take better pics than stock with unlocked bootloader. this was at ISO 1600 and HDR(I think, can't remember..) . A little lightroom editing and I'm golden.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Airborntx:
v4 mod again !

vereda by https://www.flickr.com/photos/airborntx/, on Flickr
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I've been up to LP .270 to test mod v4 few days ago. Well, the night scene is broken in LP so you see bad quality or not much different. Actually, the whole exposure control in LP seems to be very buggy and denoise is too heavy to wash out details and made photo softy.

I reverted back to KK now and the night scene is awesome. Will give 5.1.1 a try later.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
This camera is bazed on LP 5.1 from Z3.But i don't know if the original 5.1 LP camera of Z1c will be better or same,as v4 is based already on 5.1.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Airborntx:
lol, installing the v4 mod to use the night scene ?, its absurd, thats the manual exposure for...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Camera quality isn't only related with front-end camera.apk alone(so u guys switch to 3rd app and always found not much better or even get worse), a good camera.apk is important but there are still camera drivers back-end which is in the kernel and system files, the same thing in the HTC and Samsung in my experiences. Didn't tested the original LP .270 stock z1c camera.apk though. Next time I will also give a look in 5.1.1 stock camera.

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Sure I've been tested everything else :eek:, I won't install LP and test night one function and roll back KK. Who the hell will do that except that if I'm an idiot.

Indeed the exposure control(low light/indoor) got bugs, it doesn't matter whether on manual exposure(ISO priority) or auto exposure. Sometimes when you get the ISO priority real working, I admit it will be better than night scene because it is more aggressively to use an even slower shutter speed so you get more clear picture but it doesn't work every time and unpredictable. Plus the exposure is real bad in LP, the lighting quality during at low light/indoor in KK(with Chocolatetrain V8 mod cam) is way better.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Ger$$on:
Excactly what nightly are you runninng? I really can't make the stock camera work on any Cyanogenmod Rom atm.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Here you go.....

[PORT][CM12/CM12.1/AOSP] Xperia Z4 Framework & Sony Stock Camera

http://xdaforums.com/crossdevice-dev/sony-themes-apps/port-xperia-z4-framework-sony-stock-t3154772

Sony stock camera framework project for CM/AOSP and supported Z1c.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] adek89:
omg :eek: my first that good Photo With This Phone

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] SkarlosBME:
And what is the base ROM you are using? I tried it with RR 5.5.3 but no luck, "Unfortunately, the Camera has stopped". Also, I can't find that version of CM nightly they are referring to (17th of July?).

Edit: nevermind, I solved it. Switched to Manual mode from AR Effects, now it works.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] John.D..:
If you have any problems with exposure, or HDR on our cameras - use a Snapseed app. Without loss of quality!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I don't run CM/RR, I just share the link here ...:D bcoz I need 4K so I will only stick with stock. Many said it won't work on latest build of CM12.1 or RR, will give a bootloop. Beware.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Ger$$on:
I'm trying this for one month, and doesn't work, fc on cammera app.

Thats why my question was "What CM Nightly are you running man! Or maybe what it was.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] SkarlosBME:
Based on the replies in the thread , it only seems to work when you open the camera app from Info-Eye or AR Effects app and the switch to manual mode. After that the camera app will not FC anymore
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Airborntx:
Delete camera data just in case
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
After few days of usage i can confirm that you need to restart your phone every day or face camera issues on kitkat(stock or chocotrain);) Now i remember why i hated kitkat so much;) Jb or lp don't have such issues so i can't wait for new lp....
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aexme:
somewhere in japan with mt. fuji in the bgr

google camera panorama cut/resized for a dual screen
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] qx876:
Waiting for 5.11 experiences!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
I can't install moded v4 camera on new lolipop build:( Anybody have same issue?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] tolya-666:
5.1.1 Camera to become better?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Ok to answer myself for other people,you need xposed,serajr module and superuser enabled,then you can install moded v4 camera which is great on our phone;) lucky patcher didn't work on 5.1 for me;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] mosespl:
This photo has been taken on 5.1.1 in totally darknes so please take a look and judge.

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] maninder singh bali:
The image is gud bt its very very noisy and its blurred i think. The indoor or lowlight and against light camera picture quality is worst on lollypop... I dont knw y dont the engineers check the camera software before giving out the update...
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
if you or soneone with 5.1.1 update should post some photos it would ve very nice Because they said 5.1.1 would have better photo quality in auto and dark places.

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Tograd:
https://goo.gl/photos/4u9cL1mRmX18pxfX7

Google saw fit to auto-enhance this photo and I think they did a good job.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] qx876:
1st experiences with 5.11 stock camera.

I mainly use the camera for really quick snapshots, so always with the camera button and automatic mode. The first thing I noticed, yesterday the camera crashed (those crashes are frequent on 4.4 but with a reboot every other day was ok). Today I noticed that the startup of the camera took a while longer, at first there was only white until that faded into the actual scene. I cannot make any statements about quality.

berlinwaiting.tumblr.com

The pic with reddish haired lady in the blue shirt is the 1st one I took with the new system.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Any report on 5.1.1 with v4 mod cam?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] oviseven666:
It works great, but sony remove the option of recording at 60fps:(
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] play3man:
Can you, or anybody with 5.1.1 on Z1C, open Total Commander or another file manager, open system folder and search there for libs with 60fps in their name? So just type to search bar "60fps", if it finds something. Thanks.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] qx876:
Found nothing
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] puteax:
[IMG="60fps"]http://oi58.tinypic.com/20hkpx5.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] oviseven666:
The lib 60fps if they are in the system, but not recording at 60fps work. You may avoid a code that can be used that option
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] play3man:
I just tried it by yourself and all libs are there. The camera app is the same - im using moded camera V4 and there is option for 60fps in 5.0. The only thing I found different by looking at it without any deep searching is the SuperVideoCamera.apk... So devs maybe can start looking for problems there

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
anyone compared 5.1.1 camera with v4 zezadas camera?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] play3man:
A lot worse than V4

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] maninder singh bali:
Hw to install v4 mod on 5.1.1. When i install the camera force closes and i also have the superuser mod.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] play3man:
have you installed the right xposed version for 5.1.1?

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] maninder singh bali:
Yes for sure i have right version. Very xposed module is working.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
dirty flash again the rom. flash again dual recovery zip. delete stock camera app data. then go to system priv app folder and delete semcameraui folder.reboot.then enable sejar's dissable signature app feature. reboot and install v4 camera. then with PL install as system app and then if you want flash the 4k-timeshift zip.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] tenjou_89:
what is PL?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
sorry LP lucky patcher
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sduben:
Hi guys, I create ultimate guide for night mobile photography.

I hope you will enjoy it. Any comments are welcome.

[IMG="22 ultimate tips and tricks for mobile night photograpy"]http://microstocktools.com/wp-content/uploads/22-tips-and-tricks-for-night-mobile-photography-part1.jpg[/IMG]
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Nice guide,have you tried v4 camera mod?It work's like charm for nigh shoots and tripod ;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sduben:
Hi, still not. I need phone for work so I don't prefer install any unoriginal parts into the system. The only thing that can convince me would be full mode control and RAW support.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Well you got shutter prio,iso lvl,wb and it's working great,lowest iso is 50;)

Using fv-5 is nice but that trick to have low iso is booring and too much feedle for me;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
I saw in other forum that they prepare port of z5 camera to our z1c.

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] sduben:
That would be great, I think z5 has full control right? But still not RAW support I think.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
You have allready with v4 camera shutter prio,wb and iso that's enough for decent pics;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
for someone who takes a lot of night shots and wants double boost the led flash light... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2886705 be sure to flash the right version!!!<br />

<br />

Sent from Greece

Sent from Greece
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I've been tested both of DE_1279-6978_14.6.A.0.368_R2D(Germany) and 14.6.A.0.368_CustomizedIN_R3D(India) and also got camera force closed on V4 mod. I also tried the deodex patch or wipe data to do clean installation and also no luck. Sure I got the correct ver xposed installed with the latest of Serajr LP Superuser mode enabled. I've no idea at all, sometimes the viewfinder will pop up after 0.5 ~ 2s force closed and sometimes it just closed completely.

Overall, the 5.1.1 speed is smooth and memory management seems good now. Battery life is good again. I restored the stock camera and found the image quality better than 5.0.2 but indoor exposure control is same worse. I still think that 4.4.4 perform much better in this area but outdoor of daylight/lowlight might be no problem, mainly indoor is bugged, this is my personal opinions.

I'm going to revert back to 4.4.4 now and waiting for 2nd update of 5.1.1.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
No fc here,german 5.1,work's perfect on lp and its miles now from kk;)

1. Try not to reboot your phone on kk for few days and run camera...result...black screen,stock or moded;)

Lp has 0 lags after week+

I would give it another try for lp if i where you;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] tenjou_89:
v4 mod. can't remember iso. half a second exposure.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
Well.... I know you have a special personal taste of trying not to reboot forever but I just don't care to reboot it, I usually do it when I wake up in the morning so it won't disturb my daily use. I do agreed KK better to reboot a time per day though.

Can you share me the link(rom where you downloaded) and the exactly method you did installation the rom and V4 mod, in detailed steps. There are many reports V4 got 5.1.1 FC here.

In short, if you guys like to shoot outdoor scene then I think V4 mod is real better, during at night you can benefit by shutter time up to 1s. However, I do believe the indoor exposure control in 502/511 got worse, I've been tested hundred of times at home, restaurant, shopping mall and metro trains. It is easy to either go over or below and hard to balance out but KK with V8 does an excellent job in this field.

Because I mainly shoot at indoor environment, KK more suitable in my situation. I don't know why but it has some problem to deal with HK's fluorescent lighting, maybe LP dislikes Hong Kong.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kos25k:
it would be perfect to find a way to have both v4 and v8 on LP!!!But if someone could post photos of indoors to compare KK vs LP it would be also nice.

Sent from Greece
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheEndHK:
I'll do it next time when I find the way to solve the V4 FC, or when the 2nd 5.1.1 OTA comes out later. But I think the camera driver sit behind the kernel/system is very different on KK and LP, I think they are using different way to deal with indoor environment, just the camera.apk alone won't dramatically changes the result. Therefore, I guess that z3c 5.1.1 with V4 may not has this problem.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] aigaming:
Yes i can http://xdaforums.com/sony-xperia-z1-compact/general/stock-14-6-0-368-customized-lollipop-5-t3200948 is the rom i use,flashed over kitkat with full wipes...

Installed latest xposed installer via recovery,installed xposed apk after that, installed serajr xposed and enabled super user mode.

Wiped the camera app,deleted camera folder(as v4 op said) and installed v4 camera apk and it worked with 0 problems;)

Only problems i had was when i tried 4k and ts mod,v4 camera fc'ed all the time so i did all over again without installing 4k and ts mod;)

For me lucky patcher didn't want to work at all(could not install v4),so i used xposed method and it work's smooth eversince ;)

ps. my bl is locked