[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] digitaldrama:
Sorry about the whole Texas thing. Really.

*As with my previous post, all forum worthy info is in glorious Technicolor™ ( red/boldface ).

Ahh yes, Texas. That makes perfect sense. My sarcasm and irony doesn't come close to the genius of Texan favorite, Michigan resident, and, funnyman Ted Nugent. Mr. Nugent is a virtuoso. His topical satire ranks amongst the very best of the genre. You can't please everybody or Texans. I can completely understand where you're coming from. It's all very clear to me now. Perhaps, you are being held hostage and are not permitted to laugh. Blink twice for yes, then say no more.

As, for the pertinent information. Doesn't it seem odd to anyone else, that there is no answer to blocking the Kindle HDX from contacting the mothership.

I'm a visual fx guy, If you need a kick a** effect for a film, I'm right there for you. I am not an expert, by any means, on the particular topics, that this website covers. That's why I'm here. I'm here to learn something. I apologize if my delivery doesn't suit a delicate sensibility and fragile disposition. I moved last year to a new home. Well... It's more of a psychiatric facility, than a home. The P.O. doesn't forward my Decorum Society newsletter. At least that's what I'm being told by my nurses. I would be immensely heart stricken to know, that someone's*brain detonated, within their skull, over something I wrote. Good lord. Had they only looked away when my post appeared, and wore a seatbelt. They would still be here today. The other suggestion my doctors had, and I must concur, is to remove the pineapple from wherever it's lodged. ;)

With that said, I have been in computer science since I was 10. That's 42 years. I punched cards to program a machine with the same capacity as many of today's toys. I have a Phd in Physics and a BS in Computer Science. I have run in many circles. I have been deep internet, since the Navy developed and abandoned it. To this very day, I have yet to see ANY program on ANY platform that has not been able to be reverse engineered. So... If you don't have the chops to find a solution, then have a drink at your favorite watering hole, brandish*thosefreshly polished sidearm sixshooters, mention to your misogynist friends how your "brain nearly exploded", just by reading a post, tell highbrow knock knock jokes, talk about seceding from the rest of the America, plan how to get Ted Cruz and Ted Nugent into the Whitehouse, and block me.

There's no harm in not knowing how to do something. I don't have a more elegant and appropriate solution to my mother's problem either.

If you don't want to spend the effort to work on this type of interim solution, that's cool too.

If it is the consensus, that it's not worth expending the time and effort to work on this, that's totally acceptable.

Just don't say, it's not possible, or can't be done. That just indicates a certain level of naïveté. I can list many instances of things that are believed to be impossible, yet they are.

Does the Kindle OS generate random IP's that fit closely to a router's un-banned IP ranges. That would assume the mothership somehow knows these what these IP's are and set's up an update server there. It matters not if these outgoing or incoming requests are encrypted? Do they have false, friendly sounding domains that don't attract attention and red flags. As an example, I would never block texas . com slash tourism.mthl

Does the Kindle shut down, if it's not connected to Amazon every so often? Microsoft tried to do that with the Xbox One. You see how long that lasted. It was squashed months before the hardware was released.

Any Amazon specific apps can be avoided till a root is found. Any one of those apps can check your OS status and report it back to Amazon.

I find it incredibly hard to believe, impossible really, that short of keeping the Kindle from wifi, that it CAN'T be done.

Yes, I read all the threads with interest. All that these posts indicate to me is that the router rules have not accounted for every outgoing and incoming request. It maybe hard to believe, but it's a fact. It's plain and simple. If you have trouble understanding this very legitimate and accurate notion, then you really don't understand what routers do. How about blocking every outgoing and incoming connection on every port. Grant permission when asked, and only when you know or recognize what it is asking for. Like a request for tednugent . com

I did this already and it seems to be working fine. I would assume that Amazon is not attempting to hack every network attached to a Kindle. Pushing an update, by bypassing*individual firewalls seems more unlikely than a fleet of drones delivering packages to your doorstep.

The real problem is blocking the ports, exact outgoing, and incoming requests. If I had a Kindle and required blocking Amazon's access to it, I would have done, as I described above, for my mother. It is not an elegant solution for her. She does not live with me. She just learned that holding the mouse backwards makes the cursor in opposite direction. Blocking the proper requests, would be ideal for Mom. She thinks IT is a Stephen King novel. No granting permissions necessary.

What the reply post from my good Texan colleague seems to suggest is... no firewall rules can be written to prevent the Kindle from reaching out to the Amazon server and update. Really? Is that what you're indicating?

Commenting on my post, validates it. Good or bad, it becomes corraborated. You wallow in the mud with me or concur with the statement. By, flinging disparaging remarks, sheltered by attempted helpful, if not, correct information, only makes oneseIf look hypocritical. Chastising something, while actually engauging in it, begs a question. Does the person speaking have any remote idea, what the words mean, while speaking them. If one is unwilling to read a post by me, then do not. Texas, where a good majority of the population follow the extreme right wing flute playing of the "Tea Party" piper. I have heard, a fair portion of Texans have ZERO "free thinking" capabilities. Those poor rubes have no clue that they are being used as pawns. I'd probably be rude and PO'd too. I'd be blocking or avoiding a poster I take issue with, can't really be THAT hard a intellection to wrap a ten gallon hat around. Hmmmm, maybe I'm assuming WAY to much. Perhaps, if one heard it on FOX one might believe it.

I'll clue you in. After my first text, I began highlighting pertinent topical XDAdevelopers business in red. *NEW* It's be brought to my attention that some color blind people may accidentally harm themselves reading black text. I have now instituted a "different font" policy for their safety and convenience.

Have a super day!

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