yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] digitaldrama:
Stating the obvious?

Hi,

I bought my mother an HDX 7. She's not an IT guru. She is progressing though, thanks for asking. Her HDX 7 is now updated to 13.3.2.1. I gave her the gift of wireless too. Her online exploits are going to get her unceremoniously updated. In the interim, whilst waiting for a shiny white knight to rescue us from Bezos Domination, I posit an idea. I am sure I will be a laughing stock and seen as stupid beyond galactic proportions. Mom only travels between my home and hers. She's not giving FACEBOOK her entire family's personal data at the local Starbucks. If we had the server paths that the Kindle goes to" break your will" and update, couldn't those ip's be blocked with a firewall? Not sure if that would be on the home router end or side loaded into the HDX with an app.Most likely the home router? It's probably been mentioned and kiboshed long ago, back in the days when women were still women.

Discuss. Commence with flames.

OBTW, F*** who ever invented Captcha. Really? Honestly? That's all we have going for us to stop a bot. What about the friendly, happy, and dyslexic user?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] juustinn:
I wish I had the answer to this but I don't. I'm just replying because I want you to know that I really like the way you write.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] digitaldrama:
Thanks.

Frankly, I thought I might be booted off for some reason. Maybe the bell has not yet tolled for me. I thought I 'd be forced to become an under cover lurker. Oh Snap! I'm pretty bold sitting here with my VPN. Am I not? I have a new login and password ready to roll. Do they allow connections from Romania? I haven't checked any other posts yet, save yours. I am willing to bet someone here chastises me. I can hear it now. "Dude, lighten up, have a popsicle!" or " I bet you still wet your bed!". "So's your mom. Thats one you don't hear anymore. It would be pertinent. There's no need to yell, is there?

Anyhoo, I don't mean to be snarky or dickish. Really. I just write what hemorrhages from my head. I did, at the very least, censor myself, as not to offend the delicate.

Have a great day!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GSLEON3:
Is that you Jake?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Hamsterok:
tl;dr
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] DreamingWolf:
ROFLMAO Pure genius! Makes me wish I had an answer for your firewall question. I think I recall something about blocking them in the hosts file. I'll do some digging and see if I can find it.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GSLEON3:
Really? It makes me simply ignore the question. Not just the ranting (which really is better suited for a mental health forum than XDA), but also the fact it has been answered in several post throughout the forum (you know, the ones where the user renamed all the relevant apk's, deleted or renamed the OTA certs & blocked the IP's on both routers & firewalls & yet were still updated).
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mineturtle33:
X.3.2.1 has been rooted already. You need to use a factory cable to fastboot flash the boot-prod.img from the rootable version, it will boot, but the ui will not load. Then you root it with the old method, reboot, and restore the new kernel to get your ui back.

Sent from my 2013 Kindle Fire HD
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] evilgrin98:
Thanks!

I would need more specific instructions to be able to implement them myself. Also, what's your source for this information? I've been following this forum and haven't seen another thread on the topic with anymore information than is here. If you point me to the source, I'll test on my own device and try to draft instructions for the rest of us.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GSLEON3:
:rolleyes:
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] hewe274:
Bought one yesterday due to high CPU/GPU specs but in the end find out there is no available root for the updated version (It's updated first time turned on, gosh!). Kind of disappointed and feel bad of being stuck in the so restricted FireOS. Will do anything to help developers to test new method to root.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mineturtle33:
It is the current root method for 11.3.2.1 on the kfsowi, which uses the same software, so I'm pretty sure it works for the HDX, but you definitely need a factory cable. it won't receive fastboot commands without one. It works. I'm serious.

Sent from my 2013 Kindle Fire HD
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Faznx92:
I'm not sure how closely related the kindle fire hd 11.3.2.1 is to the hdx but I think it worth reading the KFHD threads for exploit ideas.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] intel352:
It's a shame we can't just get an error free version of the gapps & services, without root. Would solve matters for users such as myself that simply want Play Store and other google service without needing anything else related to root functionality.

Meh :-\
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] DreamingWolf:
Perspective and sense of humor are amazing things, are they not? Sorry that you seemed bothered by those that don't match yours.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] mech_supernova:
I don't think it works the same on the HDX as the HD, when I tried the fastboot cable a while back it tries to install qhsusb_bulk but there doesn't seem to be any drivers for it, also the screen just stays blank, doesn't say fastboot like the HD's do.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mr.Nik:
GSLEON3,

There is progress in experiments??
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GSLEON3:
Yeah yeah, they are great. But pointless rantings that just clutter up a thread on a specific topic, well, that is not where they belong. I get it, evryone wants to stand out & seek attention & maybe some users here have not been around long enough to even grasp why & how XDA came to be, but I can assure you it wasn't born out of a desire to provide a medium for smartass comments. Really, doesn't Facebook, G+ & Twitter provide enough of an avenue for that?

Oh well, ya'all can keep it up & even keep sending me the PM's, because I don't care for it (again, remind me why differing opinions are okay?) :rolleyes: . That's fine, I really don't care, nor do I have the inclination to waste any more time on the subject. My device is exactly where I want it & the PM's do nothing but discourage me from continuing any further.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] eldecanopy:
I know a method on the last version to make google services work without root, but only play store doesn't work.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5 mediante Tapatalk
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] evilgrin98:
I systematically tried all exploit options listed in the 7 and 8.9 HD threads. I confirm that none work.

QemuRoot_v1.0

with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v31

Root_with_Restore_by_Bin4ry_v33 (all options)

root_script

root_script with kindlehd2013_root overwrites
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mineturtle33:
Why won't anybody try my method. It works on a 2013 device realeased at the sane time with the same software as the HDX root methods for the HDX work for it, so why won't its 11.3.2.1 method work?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] eldecanopy:
Hi, please make a instruction when you can and will try your method. :good:
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mineturtle33:
I will write some instructions tomorrow.

Sent from my 2013 Kindle Fire HD
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] otakus007:
Waiting for your guide. Thank you!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] bouncy1920:
GSLEON, I agree completely with you! Please don't let someone's pathetic attempt to entertain strangers because of a lack of attention at home keep you from your work here.

I'm willing to try a root method if tutorial is provided. I miss the play store.

I'll help in anyway possible. thanks all.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] tuilakhang:
my HDX 7 is now on 13.3.2.1, can I try this tool 2 root mine
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] cdub50:
Just wanted to chime in and state that I still have root. Have droid wall installed renamed ota cert and removed an amazon app that can push updates forget the name. No build.prop mods needed.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] kirewade:
I tired his root method and this is what i got.

C:\Users\Erik\Desktop\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\platform-tools>adb

push su /data/local/tmp/

3190 KB/s (104564 bytes in 0.032s)

C:\Users\Erik\Desktop\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\platform-tools>adb

push rootme.sh /data/local/tmp/

61 KB/s (188 bytes in 0.003s)

C:\Users\Erik\Desktop\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\platform-tools>adb

push exploit /data/local/tmp/

3253 KB/s (89968 bytes in 0.027s)

C:\Users\Erik\Desktop\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\platform-tools>adb

shell chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/rootme.sh

C:\Users\Erik\Desktop\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\platform-tools>adb

shell chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/exploit

C:\Users\Erik\Desktop\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20131030\sdk\platform-tools>adb

shell /data/local/tmp/exploit -c "/data/local/tmp/rootme.sh"

Device detected: KFAPWI (JDQ39)

Try to find address in memory...

Attempt msm_cameraconfig exploit...

Detected kernel physical address at 0x00008000 form iomem

Attempt fb_mem exploit...

Detected kernel physical address at 0x00008000 form iomem

You need to manage to get remap_pfn_range addresses.

Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred addresses.

Failed to get commit_creds addresses.

Failed to get ptmx_fops addresses.

KFAPWI (JDQ39) is not supported.

Failed to setup variables.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] revircs:
same here
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] DB126:
Yup - fully concur. Even if you are truly done GSLEON I express my sincere appreciation for everything you have brought to the table so far.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] #mich3L:
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

My results

Device detected: KFTHWI (JDQ39)

Try to find address in memory...

Attempt msm_cameraconfig exploit...

Detected kernel physical address at 0x00008000 form iomem

Attempt fb_mem exploit...

Detected kernel physical address at 0x00008000 form iomem

You need to manage to get remap_pfn_range addresses.

Failed to get prepare_kernel_cred addresses.

Failed to get commit_creds addresses.

Failed to get ptmx_fops addresses.

KFTHWI (JDQ39) is not supported.

Failed to setup variables.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] andros1972:
my result

my result

Please connect Device with enabled USB-Debugging to your Computer!

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

Device connected. Pushing files...

3396 KB/s (507888 bytes in 0.146s)

Changing permissions...

Executing Exploit (could take some minutes, be patient!)

Hit ENTER to continue

Premere un tasto per continuare . . .

Device detected: KFAPWI (JDQ39)

Attempt acdb exploit...

KFAPWI (JDQ39) is not supported.

Attempt fj_hdcp exploit...

Attempt msm_cameraconfig exploit...

Detected kernel physical address at 0x00008000 form iomem

Attempt put_user exploit...

ioctl: Bad address

Attempt fb_mem exploit...

Detected kernel physical address at 0x00008000 form iomem

Attempt perf_swevent exploit...

KFAPWI (JDQ39) is not supported.

failed to open /dev/diag due to Permission denied.

uid=2000(shell) gid=2000(shell) groups=1003(graphics),1004(input),1007(log),1009

(mount),1011(adb),1015(sdcard_rw),1028(sdcard_r),3001(net_bt_admin),3002(net_bt)

,3003(inet),3006(net_bw_stats)

Premere un tasto per continuare . . .

Kindle hdx 8,9

14.3.2.2
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] plasticarmyman:
i even tried Kingo Root...and none of it's exploits worked :\
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GSLEON3:
Pretty much anything compiled to root another device or older firmware, isn't going to get you anywhere.

However, in going thru some M8 stuff & looking at firewater & jcases temp root, I may have found something similar that will work for the HDX. I need to hunt down a few things & see if I can get beaups to compile it for me once I know whether or not it will work.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jjrizzelcincy:
i would love to have those two on this device

in the phone world i only use htc and these guys are the life line of hacked htc devices,i so wish we could persuade them to help us on this device

one can only hope !!
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] GSLEON3:
Actually, it was Beaups that compiled the first root. At any rate, I have some hex surfing & re-addressing to do before I can give it a try. Maybe this weekend.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jjrizzelcincy:
yeah i know Beaups is the man,, all of those guys have been doing awesome stuff for HTC users for a long time ,,,helping with root and bootloaders

it would be awesome to have them on this device i guess i got spoiled with always having an HTC device
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] rootcid:
Hate to dound pessimistic but this device looks like a dead end in terms of development, even though its crying out. There just havent been enough sales I guess.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Cpasjuste:
So sources are not available it seems ? If so what a crap ..

Envoyé de mon KFTHWI en utilisant Tapatalk
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jjrizzelcincy:
what do you mean by sources?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] terra_byte_tech:
He/she means, the software's source code (raw, uncompiled, software code)
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] yonkayonka:
another update, and blocking Amazon

Howdy -

I'm one of those that *had* the 14.3.2.0 release rooted and was caught "un-prepared" when the 14.3.2.1 was pushed out. My fault, I should have been more diligent, read more posts, whatever.

I need to say this, get it off my chest: That it still REALLY pisses me off that I paid $500 plus (it has the LTE HW) for this machine, own it, yet Amazon act like THEY do - being able to forcibly update the code on something I own. IMHO that violates my Constitutional Rights. Apple and M$ aren't even that bad. I even paid the extra $20 so as not to get the advertising. Not that that's over with ..

I noticed that it started to do another update a week or so ago - I assume to 14.3.2.2. I immediately put it in Airplane Mode - which it's been in since.

I don't know if the new release will be any harder to root than .1, but I just as soon NOT let Amazon mess with it. Anyway, I was wondering if anyone had info on what domains, or IP addresses, are used for the update process. I'll just block them at my router for now.

TIA - Yonk
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] CrashThump:
Yep, 14.3.2.1 is not topical anymore.

I suggest topic starter to rename it to 14.3.2.2_user_322095220.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] jjrizzelcincy:
i know he meant that but i think he was implying something as well
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] shabbypenguin:
Amazon takes security far more serious than most oem's especially ones like LG :P

shame about root for this device, but so far i have to say this is a very nice device :D
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] conan1600:
It is nice, very nice. But not nice enough that without root and customization options on launchers walll paper ect that I am willing to recommend buying it. But the touch response on this tablet is the best ive found.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Srixun:
I've been lurking, hoping someone would get this root figured out. Im almost tempted to start a root bounty. lol.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Tomen8r:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2580428
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] plasticarmyman:
you can still download a launcher...

and really...because you can't change the wallpaper it makes it a crappy device?...

i'm just gonna say this...

everyone who keeps complaining about this device needs to man up a bit..

it's half the price of an iPad and competes with it.

It's better than any other Tablet on the market right now (8.9" is at least)

Yeah we can't get root. Oh Well.

Download an alternative market and you've got your apps.

the wallpaper isn't a deal breaker for me.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] conan1600:
[/QUOTE=plasticarmyman;51920143]you can still download a launcher...

and really...because you can't change the wallpaper it makes it a crappy device?...

i'm just gonna say this...

everyone who keeps complaining about this device needs to man up a bit..

it's half the price of an iPad and competes with it.

It's better than any other Tablet on the market right now (8.9" is at least)

Yeah we can't get root. Oh Well.

Download an alternative market and you've got your apps.

the wallpaper isn't a deal breaker for me.[/QUOTE]

First off i didnt call it a crappy device, i said it had the best touch response of any tablet i have ever used. Buddy im man enough to buy and not recommend what ever I want. Who do u think u are telling me to man up. I dont like not having wall paper . You do? Great live life your way. 400 dolars is fine but this is not the best screen on the market either. The ppi is actually better on the tab pro with the same harware. Downloading 3rd party markets opens you up to possible security concerns not to mention aptoid and 4 shared dont run the latest version for weeks. I like the tablet, just not enough. That doesnt give you the right to make a juvenile response to my post like I pissed in your Cheerios because you are willing to compromise and I have chosen not to.

Fact of the matter is there are better products at better prices out there. You want to be a fan hey go for it.

Other launchers except nova and apex dont play well with hdx

No ability to turn off annoying double space equals period on the annoying keyboard Amazon chose to annoyingly install.

No ability to change DSP Manager

No ability to use Haptic Feedback

No ability to use wall paper

No ability to use 3rd party keyboard without having the side bar interfere

No ability to use swift keyboard...the single most popular keyboard there is

No ability to stimy crapware

No ability to use widgets

No ability to adjust screen

No ability to use tasker for set objectives

No ability to use chrome for more than 10 minutes

No ability to use stick mount for usb

No ability to connect ps controller through sixaxis

No ability to use wiimote

No ability to connect bluetooth and watch youtube without pulling down the wifi speed as they used the same chip for wifi and bluetooth

No ability to use any add block that actually works well

No abilty no ability no ability. The list got to long for me. You like it great, but my reasons are valid and I will chose how TO MAN UP AND CALL A LOSS A LOSS.

Sent from a tablet that can do every one of these things ive listed. Most without root even.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] CrashThump:
[MENTION=3471760]conan1600[/MENTION]
[MENTION=3947934]plasticarmyman[/MENTION]

Please stop offtopic.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] texmexdud:
Please keep working at it

GSLEON3, Please, please keep working at this. Many of us who are rooted and want to stay that way are rooting (no pun intended) for you, and THANK YOU for your efforts so far. While I have root on my HDX 8.9 and have Google apps working, I don't dare turn on Wi-Fi for more than a few seconds for fear of being updated. Safestrap installed, running only in Rom-slot, waiting for a method to either root newer updates, or to keep root safely on existing setup.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mineturtle33:
Delete com.amazon.dtcp.apk in /system/app. Then get xposed (Google it) and install this http://www.peniscorp.com/KindleUpdatesOff.apk activate it in the xposed app. Reboot. You will now get anymore updates.

Sent from my KFSOWI Running The Kindle-Water Beta 1 ROM
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] dcoig1:
I wish I knew this before two of my kindles upgraded. :/ blocking ip addresses certainly didn't work. I have tried this on one of my kindles and it seems to have avoided upgrading. At least I can use one. Horrible company to force updates like this, I hope someone figures out the significance of the recent Qualcomm leak and this device can be used at its full potential for everyone.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] iMJets:
I wish I would of been more smart about this, been looking for away to root the latest update for over 24 hours, coming from the 7" HD KFHD I have tried pretty much everything, and will try everything. Pretty upset I just bought one first thing I did was root, and it forced a update on me after I rooted didn't even get a chance to block anything. I knew what I wanted to do just didn't think about airplane mode. Oh well Im sure something will come up soon.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Faznx92:
Question.

Can you confirm that this blocks the updates?

How does it work?

Also did you make it?
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Mineturtle33:
1. Works for me

2. It removes the updater activity from the system, and deletes the dtcp as well.

3. Gran PC made the Xposed module.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] CrashThump:
Overkilling.

You can turn off update service with root access right from the box without installing or deleting anything.

I've made it on 4 of 5 of my devices and they were never updated.

But I'm not sure that this is the right topic to discuss it.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] Faznx92:
I'm keeping my eye on it and going to test soon.

Where would I be able to find updates to this if it even needs an update, the same link you gave?

Thanks for sharing btw.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] CrashThump:
It's a bad approach.

As I remember it will still try to download the update but checking of it will fail.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] berndt_toast:
I have done this for months now and it has not tried to download a single update. I have been staying on 13.3.1.0 and have stayed rooted the entire time. This does work to stop taking new updates, as it needs those 2 files to be able to download the update.
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] CrashThump:
[MENTION=3811076]berndt_toast[/MENTION], Did I tell that this will not stop updates?

The fact that this stops an updates doesn't mean that this is a right approach.

I'm referring to the original message:

I have never performed any researching of the above because I don't know any available tracing tools (debugging doesn't work).

My way is to execute several similar commands after getting root by adb shell or inside freshly installed terminal [source], works on 4/4 HDX 8.9" from December 2013 till now:

pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAUpdateMessageHandler"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.InventoryUploadService"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.UpdatesLookupService"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.AppStateMonitorService"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.CheckForOTAUpdatesService"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.ViewUpdateActivity"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAStatusActivity"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.ResetOTAMessageHandler"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.InventoryUploadService$InventoryUploadReceiver"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.UpdatesLookupService$MountStatusChangedReceiver"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTAWakeupReceiver"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTADedupeReceiver"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTAInstallNowReceiver"

Only now I've found that there is a reworked confirmed on HD 7 shorter way, though I didn't try the below it should work similar as the above:

pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAUpdateMessageHandler"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.CheckForOTAUpdatesService"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAStatusActivity"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.ResetOTAMessageHandler"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTAWakeupReceiver"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTADedupeReceiver"
pm disable "com.amazon.dcp/.ota.OTAService$OTAInstallNowReceiver"
[Kindle Fire HDX 7" & 8.9" General] berndt_toast:
So what is the difference between disabling the services in the APK vs getting rid of the APK? Both should be serving the same purpose.