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[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] tofueatsbread:
Ah, all the damn building errors while i compile :/
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] tofueatsbread:
I dont know, its up to you really. I don't use my phone for gaming much so i cant tell
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] judas1977:
I managed to get rid them off, except the one after applying camera2.apk patch;)).

I can (try to) help you if you want...
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] Nathanabrahams:
Can't turn dark carbon off ....help
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] tofueatsbread:
I can. Did you do a clean install?
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] Nathanabrahams:
No
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] James_Feltham:
That's probably your issue then :)
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] tofueatsbread:
the probability of getting FCs and random problems are high if you dont do clean installs
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] Nathanabrahams:
No.... I didn't get any fc for any apps.... I pressed the switch but I didn't do anything ... So I'm switching back to build on the16th for now
[Galaxy Ace II Android Development] Emelin_The_Android_Man:
It is unstable

Rotation is unstable sometimes.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
I saw the "why I chose sony" post and thought I'd share my point of view. I'll apologize in advance for this long rant.

My first sony android phone was the xperia zl. I specifically got this phone to replace my note 2 while I waited impatiently for the z1 to come out. Now, I've always tinkered with my android phones and never had any issues, but this was another story. Hard bricked. The zl was dead. I was able to revive it with a series of disassemblies and messing with the battery. Not the best experience, but whatever - I was still excited about the z1.

Fast forward, and I finally got to purchase the z1 c6906 in black for a hefty 800 usd. Absolutely loved the device. The tinkering continued, and when I started playing with getting 4.3 loaded, the phone crapped out on me. Instead of taking it apart, I sent it into sony just before christmas.

They held onto it for weeks without any sort of update (14 business days is their turnaround time). Mid January, a new, replacement phone was shipped to my door. Turn it on... or not. It's a dud.

Call sony, and they apologize and send me a prepaid label to send it back for another replacement. They assure me that this process will be quick, but it just goes through their standard RMA process again. 14 business days come and go. Now they say repairs are delayed because it's a "grey market" device (wtf?). They finally say a replacement was authorized, but all they have is the phone in purple, and they have no idea when the black one will be back in stock. I told them to ship the purple one. Whatever.

One week later, the replacement phone still hasn't shipped.

My current phone is a red Nexus 5, and I couldn't be happier with it. I'll be selling the purple z1 c6906 if/when I ever receive it. Thanks, sony.

TL;DR no more sony because of locked down phones and horrible support.
[Xperia Z1 General] krabappel2548:
I'm sorry to hear you got bad support. The support I got with my Z1 was the best I ever had so that sucks for you. Good luck with your N5 ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] asadkhanduhh:
hey man, ill take the purple c6906 off of your hands.

will it come with retail box, & accesories?

i can offer 400$ thanks
[Xperia Z1 General] papped:
Will be easy to sell your phone.

Also the N5 is plenty buggy...
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
I think the support I got is probably atypical, but it still left a sour taste in my mouth. Everyone was super apologetic, but no one kept his/her promises to follow up or resolve the problem.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
No phone is perfect... that's why I'm happy to buy a new phone every 4-6 months :). I've already got offers flying in for the replacement phone (see above lol).
[Xperia Z1 General] asadkhanduhh:
it is a very serious offer.

400$ is a good figure, as a brand new z1 purple with dock, & 25$ in free 'gifts' could be had for 578$.

savings would be slightly significant for me, but not too much where one would not simply consider purchasing brand new if you decline the offer.

thanks
[Xperia Z1 General] One Twelve:
This is rather mild as far as a "i'll never buy x" thread goes.

I'd read an instance of a Z owner having to face half the purchase price in replacement charges due to a cracked screen. No free replacement was offered. This person after blowing his horn goes on to buy a Z1 a few months later.

Go figure :D
[Xperia Z1 General] krysdafur:
A C6906? Where?
[Xperia Z1 General] lalec:
No more Sony for me either but it has nothing to do with phones. After buying a PS3 and seeing first-hand how little they care about the fact that hackers run rampant on their PSN and they do nothing to stop them, I will not spend any more money on Sony.
[Xperia Z1 General] drsoran2:
I had a similar experience with my Z purchased in April, later discovered the lifted back cover, luckily before ever submerging it. So no harm done but I was very disappointed. I talked to amazon and after some pressure and telling them about my customer rights they gave me a full refund after 5 months. Put 90€ on top of it and bought the Z1 in September.

End of story: Best phone I ever had, a lot better than the Z. I couldn't be happier with it and all trouble with the Z was forgiven because such things can happen.
[Xperia Z1 General] kaspar737:
What games do you play that you see hackers?
[Xperia Z1 General] ngvuanh:
I guess he doesn't even know what hacker means!
[Xperia Z1 General] x102x96x:
come on dude that s not all because of Sony. thr s some bad service center everywhere from all companies.

for example assume a center that never answer ur call! or never accept faulty phone for replacement!

I had experience for both situations once sony & once samsung!

anyway, calm down ;)
[Xperia Z1 General] ngvuanh:
I have to admit, Sony customer service is like lottery.

Most of times, turn around times for me were less then 2 weeks if they have parts in stock.

There was once with my tablet Z which took a month. Mine was cracked internal LCD, not touch screen. The part was back order, and the time was during holiday. However, I finally received a new one after a month. The replacement is better than the old one. It is a brand new 32gb instead of 16gb.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
Definitely hit or miss. I guess stock had to do a lot with my situation - I can't see them stocking lots of C6906 devices.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
If you can show me a brand new purple C6906 Z1 for that price, I'll sell it to you for $400. I even have the DK31 dock that I'll throw in.
[Xperia Z1 General] Aaron_035:
Hell I've been using Sony phones from years. The recent case about my z1 bending and freaking Sony hasn't got back to me in 2 weeks. Really poor service, at least down here in SIngapore :/ probably never getting a large phone ever again.
[Xperia Z1 General] asadkhanduhh:
hmm im unable to find a c6906 for less than 600$ but there are a plethora of c6903.

what makes the c6906 so special?

i have a fact. unlocked xperia z c6603, & it works fine with at&t network with 15mbps d/l, & 6mbps u/l.

why is there a 100$ premium for c6906?
[Xperia Z1 General] :
Maybe that 100 USD premium is because the C6906 works OK in Canada, USA and Mexico on their most popular GSM LTE networks.(A C6906 will work at least in Mexico with the largest carrier)
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
Service is singapore has never been good, be it sony, samsung, htc heck even on iphones... they will give you lots of crap before they give a damn... its just that the service culture in singapore is not there yet...
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
It adds LTE band 17 which works with at&t. For me, it was worth the extra because I can get 40+Mbps down.

Also it was very hard to find a US seller for the phone, so I ended up buying it from a retailer in Canada. I'm sure if they released it in the US, prices would drop considerably.
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
Personally I keep insurance with all my devices so I don't worry about manufacturers.
[Xperia Z1 General] dakunclear:
The US market for Sony phones was bad that's why they have stayed in Canada since it is decent enough up here to keep it going.
[Xperia Z1 General] ngvuanh:
I doubt you can use C6903 with AT&T LTE, unless you are in the area without LTE band 17.
[Xperia Z1 General] One Twelve:
And chances are good OP will do the same when the Z2 comes out.

So this thread isn't serious, its frivolous :D
[Xperia Z1 General] ashirokung:
Good luck friend, but my Z1 is best thee android phone for me.
[Xperia Z1 General] demonicangell™:
wait... so this op dude bricked two phones ..(how does one not learn from the previous bad attempt i don't know) .

and then is crying over why sony service is bad .. smh .

almost all phones companies have bad service centre ..its just a matter of hit or miss ..
[Xperia Z1 General] dlads:
Flog it and get a note 3 or G2, the Z1 has a lot of good things going for it and when i sent my phone off it came back in five days (which was suprising) I too won't be getting another Sony phone, too many unfamiliarities so maybe it's me.

There are some beasty phones coming out soon so i'd hold fire and get it then, unless you can keep hold of the cash until then and do without a high end device for a while.
[Xperia Z1 General] kantk20111:
Honestly every company but Apple has crap customer service for mobile. Yes, even Google is pretty bad, I've heard horror stories of people getting double charged for replacements and the refund coming after 3-4 months. It's dissapointing. Apple almost has a 'no questions asked' approach to fixing phones, at least here in the US. As long as it's in warranty you can walk into an Apple store and get a replacement iPhone on the spot, no charge. It sucks that you had that experience but I would never count out a whole brand because of a bad customer service issue. This easily could've happened to me with Samsung, HTC or Google. It's sad, but customer service is terrible for Android devices.
[Xperia Z1 General] dakunclear:
I agree with you on that 100% I won't go Samsung but that is only because I don't like having to turn off 500 gimmicky things just to get decent battery life and I won't go LG cause they don't update their phones
[Xperia Z1 General] earlyberd:
This is exactly why you got poor service. There are zero repair facilities in the US that would have stock of the replacement parts you need, because it's not sold in the US. Sony has to ship the phone overseas for a repair, which can take two weeks or more.

You brought this upon yourself by knowingly purchasing a grey market device. You're lucky that Sony honored the warranty at all, because other companies like Apple will tell you to get lost if you bring in a device from another country.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
The phone was never shipped overseas for repair. I had to call to have the RMA approved. They knew it had a Canadian IMEI before they accepted it, and they had no problems working on it in Texas. If they said they couldn't fix it, I would have sold the bricked phone for parts and walked away.
[Xperia Z1 General] khhhhris:
sorry to hear about your bad service. i also have a bum c6906 in for repair. I actually sent the phone away on Jan/9 and still havent got a replacement. After multiple calls and arguments they even promised me a tracking number by last friday... still nothing. The last sony product I will ever buy as well.
[Xperia Z1 General] earlyberd:
Really? Because I don't recall seeing any mention of you receiving the original phone back.

Of course they can fix it, there is an abundance of replacement parts for it all over the world. But if you read the warranty terms, you'll see there's no mention of a guaranteed turn around time for an RMA.

This is RMA code speak for, "We're not paying $150 of our own money to air mail the replacement parts from Japan." The parts are usually shipped on a boat, and they prioritize delivery to repair centers that are local to countries that the device is actually sold in. Repair centers outside of those regions only keep a handful of whole replacement phones on hand.
[Xperia Z1 General] fredastere:
To the poster of this thread....

I didn't read the whole thread and only the first post

What i can understand is that you are new with software, computers, smartphones, androids and thus any kind of manipulation of such device...

Yet you blame Sony...

Look you wanted to unlock your phone or root it, or whatever, and as most new guy you simply didnt research or inform yourself enough....

Its really sad to hear such things... I guess you dont understand that its actually REALLY HARD to brick any device nowadays

As long as you keep using your big mamal brain....

Battery manipulation??? Opening the phone??? Dude you messed up software wise...

Take the time to learn, inform yourself, verify, ask around before stupidly messing around with tge internal "organ" software of such pricey devices no?

Sigh...
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
I'm not sure why you're fighting me on every point. My problem with their support isn't the turnaround time, but it's the misinformation and rude technicians. Aside from the initial RMA email, I received zero communication from them - I always had to call. Whenever they promised a call back, they didn't. I've been hung up on while I was "being transferred to a supervisor." The second replacement was not supposed to be a standard RMA because the replacement they sent was faulty.

I don't need "RMA code speak" from them. I don't care if they have to ship it to Canada or Mexico or Japan for repair - just tell me that. Each time I called, they said it was still with the repair tech in Texas, and no more information was available. If they were upfront with me from the beginning, my expectations would have been set correctly.

FYI, the replacement phone was sent via Fedex overnight from Mexico, so I'm sure they can afford to pay for expedited shipping.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
I assure you that your understanding of the situation is as poor as your grasp of the English language. I've had around twenty android devices from several different manufacturers before my first sony, and I've never hard-bricked any one of them. Take a look at this stickied thread.

I don't blame sony for the bricking - I am just not satisfied with their tech support.
[Xperia Z1 General] kantk20111:
Uh, obviously. The more you use your phone the faster your battery will drain...
[Xperia Z1 General] dakunclear:
The nexus 5 has terrible battery that's my experience but the LG g2 had great battery but the camera was meh to me
[Xperia Z1 General] ksoze:
I've already posted my replacement story in the Brickfest thread - and it was remarkably similar to yours. I think it's important to point out that Sony uses Flextronics in Canada and I assume in the US and other regions. They service more than just Sony phones so boycotting Sony doesn't really help you avoid the poor service. And while I also agree about the lack of communication - I strongly suspect its more Flextronic's fault than Sony - how much real control do they have over a third party?

I also had issues with Sony Xperia Support stating that my phone was a grey market phone - but I also would like to point out that they were still more than willing to service the phone - even before I corrected them. Can the same still be said of Samsung or LG?

I've pretty much eliminated Samsung from my recommendations list - first with their silly Region locking and then with their Knox updates that ruined a perfectly good Note II.
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
Very good point about the third party repair centers. Thanks for the insight.

I'll keep your other points in mind when picking my next phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] lalec:
Hackers are very common on the PSN in the Call of Duty games, especially the older ones. Recently in Modern Warfare 2 there have been entire teams of aimbotters and teams with people who cannot be damaged except by people on their own team, people who cannot be damaged at all because they show up on everyone else's screen as being merely a spectator and several other less severe hacks. There are also many players who have emblems and ranks that can only be obtained by hacking and many others who have constant UAV (radar which shows where enemy players are). It seems that probably more than half of the players on PSN in those games have at least one of the minor hacks.
[Xperia Z1 General] zeppelinrox:
yeah flextronics also services blackberry and nokia.

Dude, its just a game.
[Xperia Z1 General] Fechinator:
Sony is one of the best Smartphone Publisher!
[Xperia Z1 General] lalec:
Exactly. That is why only low-lifes would cheat to win at it. By the way, no one asked your opinion on it anyway. I was asked a question and I answered it. Stay out of it.
[Xperia Z1 General] zeppelinrox:
Oh grow a pair.

Nobody asked you of your opinion either.

How the hell is your little gaming problem even relevant to a phone discussion?

I think I will boycot Andoid phones because a Google user did something wrong once on Google+ and Google didnt shut down the internet.
[Xperia Z1 General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
Im still standby my NOKIA 6670 as my second phone. They dont have any google+ or battery drain issue.

Sent from my ASUS A550C using Google Chrome
[Xperia Z1 General] zeppelinrox:
lol

I was being sarcastic about the Google boycott heh
[Xperia Z1 General] Fiso:
Bro if I where you I'd be happy as hell after tinkering with you phone which probably broke the warranty they where still willing to replace it. And just imagine with a 2 year warranty you can tinker for 2 years and they will still replace it. With a nexus its 1 year warranty meaning after that whatever happens its your fault and you have to pay.
[Xperia Z1 General] lalec:
That's hilarious. You are telling me to grow a pair while you are defending cheaters who cannot play a game without their hacks. A reasonable person might presume that you are one of those low-lifes who can't play a video game without cheating. Anyway, I was in fact asked for my opinion and it was you who butted in where you don't belong. You are a jerk. And, you are blocked.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Well... I'm with OP on this one. My first and also my last. I will root the Z1s that's it...leave it stock. And wait for HTC One 2 :D
[Xperia Z1 General] zeppelinrox:
Who defended cheaters.

I just said stop acting like a little baby.

It's you that thinks games are important.

And you were NOT asked for your opinion.

That first quote, in your very first sentence, in your first post in this thread, you proclaim to be OFF TOPIC.

So please, stop sucking and blowing at the same time.

And keep your OFF TOPIC whining in the off topic section.
[Xperia Z1 General] lee480:
I just want to point out it is next to impossible to hard brick a Sony phone unless you mess with the TA.

There's also some Singaporeans here posting about poor customer support. Just take note Sony Mobile SG actually sub-contracted servicing services to another unknown company. In fact all OEMs in Singapore does that. So, expect poor support whether it's Sammy, Apple or HTC..
[Xperia Z1 General] Aaron_035:
Ah. I see. But still. It could be better. Averaging 2 weeks to each email is pushing it in my book.
[Xperia Z1 General] MADNJPN:
Well you are kinda right, as for me, I have never experienced any problems with the phone to send it to SONY Support... I'm the author of "Why SONY Products are the best" and I must say that with this last phone I'm kind of disappointed ! Again, and again after Z. .. So I'm thinking of moving to Nexus 5 or LG G2 I haven't decided yet but I will... The thing is this phone is great and etc but! The phone has a serious overheating problems it gets really hot when playing games, taking long videos, or just surfing the web I'm afraid that once something will melt inside I'm also afraid because CPU is near to the camera so ... Another thing is that Scratch Resistant "Something Glass" is not scratch resistant at all, I removed only back protector and got a tiny scratch after wiping it with Glasses soft cloth and I was shoked... One more thing, those flaps that are supposed to protect phone from the water are collecting quite a lot of dust and if you need to connect phone to PC you risk getting tons of dust while flap is open also some say that they wear off so that's why I purchased Magnet dock the same day I purchased the phone, because I had same problem with dust on Z... Camera button is very loose and you need to press very hard to take picture, in that moment you get a blurry picture because of the hand movement while trying to reach the trigger... Volume keys have strange click sounds on half pressing .. I'm pretty happy with the camera but SONY needs to pay more attention to software side because for now we cant put our Z1 to it's limits .. I'm talking about 4K recording and such stuff so... I really don't want to trade SONY for the other phone but I'm tired of constant fear that something will fall off from this phone, or I'll scratch it while wiping it, or something will melt inside while I'm playing so .. Good luck guys +1 to the author of this post !
[Xperia Z1 General] ruanfw:
Unfortunately these things happen, but I'm Sony fan. When I bought my Xperia Arc, two weeks after he gave a known bug at the time for downgrade... OK. I sent for assistance and they sent me a new phone. After that I saw that really rely heavily on Sony and their support.
[Xperia Z1 General] AhsanU:
Sony's customer service was impeccable when it came to purchasing my VAIO Duo 13, I cannot say the same about their retail shops in Canada however. My friend traveled to different stores when the Z1 first came out, all telling him different things in regards to when it's available and what it comes with etc. But that can't reflect on their personal customer support in regards to service centres and what not.

Sucks to hear what you went through OP, I guess we all get unlucky sometimes.
[Xperia Z1 General] omnius1:
tragic

I'll chime in here since I'm the OP of that thread. You appear to be under the illusion that there are such thing as companies with zero bad customer support stories ever. I believe if this is what you're looking for, then a Disney movie might be a good place to start. When I judge a company negatively, it takes more than what you've listed, it takes a systemic pattern of bad service and quality, supported by strong evidence across the board by a solid list of sources. If you think there aren't an equal number of Samsung, HTC, etc customers with stories much like yours, you're in for a surprise. I get it, you're mad. I just don't agree that the best way to deal with it is churlishly throwing a temper tantrum on a forum (why, to stomp your feet and try to hurt the big mean ol' company that bruised your ego?).

What I find even sillier is you acting so petulant you'll even attack a post on XDA full of people enjoying their purchase. Wow bro, issues. Is your next plan going to be standing in front of a Sony store at the mall to shout warnings of doom to customers before they can go in?

:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z1 General] Jmlee915:
I don't think sharing my personal experience and opinion is an attack on your post or anyone else's posts. Many people posted their own stories (good and bad) on this thread - this is what's called a "discussion."

If you're looking for an example of an attack on someone, I'll refer to your earlier post here: