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[Android General] Ouzo:
This is very interesting. A few weeks ago I bought an iOcean X7S with MT6592 SoC and 1080p screeb. Unfortunately the screen had a fault so I had to return it. The replacement had the exactly the same fault so I decided to buy a Jiayu G4S instead. To my surprise when I benchmarked the Jiayu the GPU also scored lower than the iOcean X7S did, in spite of only having half the number of pixels to push around. Today I downloaded a new ROM for it and in the Build.Prop it now declares the SoC as MT6592W.

Clearly there is a difference between the two parts. The difference was noticeable for me when gaming in Modern Combat 4 compared to the X7S. Jiayu have so far been advertising this device with a fully fledged MT6592!

On the plus side, at least for you guys, ThL have marketed the W200s honestly from the beginning and made it clear what chip is inside it. Props to them - my next phone may very well be a ThL!
[Android General] madzo:
This is my score on antutu, stock ROM
[Android General] DJRocha:
How is this possible mine is

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[Android General] madzo:
I don't know bro :(
[Android General] Vonnegut:
I' don't want to sound harsh but i really can't spend then a few words on this subject.

So you want to patch a port from Newman K18 (which takes just a copy&paste and edit skills like the russian guy has). That's nice, i also feel there should be more competent developer out there. Moreover, since the Newman K18 came with an AOSP ROM (unlike the Aliyun s.h.i.t coming with THL octacore phones), that would be really a nice idea.

Anyway, it seems you don't even know the basic...like tools as ext2explore + ext4_unpacker just to take out the files from a system.img

But you're aiming for more...indeed you want to port a kernel from P8.

Yes, exactly that. If you want to port a ROM from JB to KK you just don't have to make some copy&paste from the system, you have to unpack/edit/recompile the kernel from P8 to W200S too.

Don't worry you need only some skill to do that, like knowing what modules to keep and edit and how to rebuild a boot.img (not to mention ramdisk).

Of course that would be a very dangerous port because if anyone sucks at basic porting, the most dangerous thing that could happen is that system won't boot or (in best cases) you have some bugs/incompatibilities to meet.

But if someone sucks at building a kernel and porting it to another phone, that could be really dangerous (do you know what a kernel attends to???).

So, i don't mean to discourage you, but if you really want to make a porting like that you should start learning the basics (on a daily basis) for the next 6 months (if you are a gifted guy with time to spare).

Then you could start doing stuffs like that and brick/trash your phone.

P.S. Really, have you an idea of what kind of "balls" you've got to have do something like that with no source code at all? Patching a kernel just by trials and errors?!?

P.S.2 Of course i'm kidding. You don't even know how to "unpack" a system image, go figure. And you don't even know that you will have to replace all of the framework and system app from the P8 (not the Newman K18)

P.S.3 Anyway, even if i don't own a W200S, i wish you best luck for next six months to come. After that you will surely realize that big changes has been made to improve security in kitkat and that you should edit the init.rc too just to make any rooting app (like supersu) to work.

P.S.4 I know i can be mean, especially when i'm high, but i always stares at ppl like you who are rightly willing to do something for himself and the folk out there while they not have even the slightest idea of what they are going through to reach their goal. Good luck!
[Android General] DJRocha:
Thats 1500 points diferent... :(

Can somebody tell me what could i do, it kind of lags some times...

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[Android General] elsita:
really I don't know why you care about 1000 or 2000 more antutu points score, in my experience for all normal use, except heavy demanding games that I have seen NOBODY playing on a phone except in youtube, 12000 antutu points with HD resolution and 1 giga ram is enough, I have used mtk6589 HD 1G (13000 points) mtk6589T HD 1G (15000 points) mtk6582 HD 1G (17000 points) and now mtk6592 HD 1G (26000 points) and as I said there is no clear difference in use in any of them, I have also an RK3188 with HD and 2 gigas RAM (15000 points), and also no perceivable difference in everyday use

forget about processor power, half of it in w200s is useless, no need for it at all, in fact I use it with power saving activated as most of us do, and except for antutu, that scores 22000 then, I see no difference in performance with it activated or not
[Android General] madzo:
My result is also with power saving mode turned on, i haven't tried yet with turned off. Maybe it's not working properly on my unit :confused:
[Android General] elsita:
I am aftraid the stock rom is not as good as it should, I have the problem with youtube everyone has, and I also get some fc in gmail now and then, the lack of extended developer options prevents me from turning off system animations, and my phone feels slower than my wife's w200 ... I hope thl is doing the hard work with kit kat, and so they have not fine tuned jb as they use to do

anyway I don't experience lag, although I use nova launcer instead of stock, maybe you should try another launcher

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your tone may be a little bit acid, should I say, but you are absolutely right in all your speech :good:
[Android General] madzo:
Here is the result with power saving off it's clearly not working as it should...
[Android General] Vonnegut:
I know, i'm not perfect but i know that when i'm drunk i can be very annoying (my mom always kept tell me that) but i really felt the urge to tell ppl that nothing comes with no "surprises", especially if someone wants to port a ROM from JB to KK.

There's nothing better than wait for MTK + THL to make a new kernel IMHO.

That's especially true when you think that even for the guys having the update (on the other smartphones), the ROM is not stable (at the time being).

I checked the lenovo S939 kitkat ROM development so far and they have been changing the kernel 4 times in 40 days.

So, to sum it up. whoever tells you that he has the port to kitkat should be taken (seriously) in doubt not only because he could deliver you something which could literally break your hardware..and not only because he doesn't know what he's doing but because he's doin'it with bugged ROMs
[Android General] DJRocha:
It's not that i care, because i don't ;) it's more like i do use heavy games(RR3, NFS, etc)

And every time i go to a game or an app it takes about 2 seconds to open it.

And, yes i know that we wont ever use all power of our processor but thats nice for battery...

I'm using stock Rom and the results should be the same...thats all.

And...it goes pass S4 performance...wau !

Mine always has 80% ,more or less, of memory usage and im wondering if i could "remove" that lagging that my w100 doesn't have.

I am just curious how 2 phones with stock rom make diferent results, thats all. :)

And it may be a litle stupid but i would love to see my friends with 700€ S4 see a chinese 200€ phone bet the crap out of them... ;p

PS just have it for 3 days now and i am just ... Blown by it.

Its an AMAZING PHONE.

And if i take the issue about Facebook and youtube not working proprely(i rooted it and put in older version of both working almost fine)out ...i have no issues with it, except for that lagging i was reffering to before.

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[Android General] Vonnegut:
Of course i'm not saying that i agree with what you wrote but i think the same.

There's no urge to have 2 G. of ram or the latest high-end spec...in my (very old) experience, no developer makes games which can't be played by the greatest number of android phone owners out there. That's what you will do if you were a developer too.

Anyway, thinking about the next spec hardware for gaming is always a good indicator for what to buy next.
[Android General] DJRocha:
Well, Elsita you may be right, i use Mini launcher on my w100 and it rocks, fast as hell !

I'l try and let you know if stops lagging.

And i can' wait fo KK from thl, relly hope they are taking longer but try to make something nice.

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[Android General] RSGI:
How this turned from a request to kitchen experience to a discussion about 'balls'??

I really didn't understand if you were trying to be offensive in a sarcastic way...

Or you just needed to blow some steam off... that's ok. )

But you ruined completely my resolve on this...

After reading your entire reply i got one of those head aches... [Getting some strong pills right now] :)

It seems obvious now that i wont dive into a port between two diferente systems... i just wasn't grasping the whole issue...

now, with all those aknowlege you revele, can you please tell me where is located the videocall screen configs?

It seems that in Vanilla ROM the frame where should appear the image from the callers cam is out of propotion...

Is there a way to fix this? Can you help me out?
[Android General] climjr:
Why I'm asking if someone here also loses his/her IMEI numbers eveytime you flash a rom on thl w200s ?

I have few numbers of thl w200s phones, and there is only one unit that is behaving differently.

This one phone loses IMEI numbers everytime I flash the rom, while other phones not.

This one phone drain battery faster (I mean fast) than others.

This one phone has the NVRAM error while others doesn't.

This is the only one phone that is giving me problem on battery drain (like other members here). But some members here doesn't experience battery problem on their w200s like Miljenko (I think).

I already flash almost all roms to this phone, unfortunately, battery problem still persist.

IMEI number and NVRAM problem I can manage to solve it, so that's not a big problem.

So that is why I have a suspicion of different hardware, or maybe worst, a defective hardware.
[Android General] Vonnegut:
Hell no, i can't help you on this one. I don't have a W200S (i still have a W200).

There are so many things you should know just before tackling the real problem that i can't tell you more than this:

A) vanilla ROM is the only ROM which is ported from another smartphone, in other words the Newman K18 (the russian guy stated that it's from K19 but you can easily see that there's not smartphone with that code out there..i guess he just mistype it).

B) Newman K18 is very similar to W200S (hardware speaking) so it's a natural port (check thread on XDA how to port a ROM)

C) Newman K18 comes with a an AOSP ROM, that means the framework should be compatible with Xposed and his modules (unlike any other stock ROM out there...no matter if it's still odexed or deodexed. If you ask "why that?" you should read the thread about the Xposed framework. There are so many thing to know about Alyiun OS that you should know...)

D) porting the AOSP ROM from K18 to W200S isn't that hard...the real deal is to tackle any incompatiblity (like the one you want to fix)

E) first thing to do would be to track down the difference between the base ROM ( http://www.needrom.com/mobile/thl-w200s-vanillaexperience-firmware/ )and the ported one. Newman released new firmwares ( http://www.needrom.com/mobile/newman-k18/ ) so it's up to you to find out which one was ported (anyway i would bet on V1.0.10 'cause i checked that one month ago and i still have the ROM my PC...don't ask me why).

F) the boot.img is still the one you have on your phone...noone ever changed it making a port so don't bother about that. The only stuffs changed are in the system.img. That means you should compare folder by folder (with Winmerge) to get what has been replaced and which text file has been edited or kept (like the build.prop)

I'll stop here. I'm quite sure you'll find out some library is still from the base ROM, like camera.default.so...that could be the culprit. Or maybe it's only about decompiling the camera app and changing the RES.

Anyway, now you know how many things you should learn just to figure out where is your problem...and maybe you will never will be able to solve it (unless you're a skilled coder).

If you still wanna learn how to port a ROM and what tools you need...i could point you to the right threads.

After some weeks, you will learn more about "porting" and android and you'll be able to figure out what the russian guy did and what he cannot.

If you'll get a step further, you'll fix your problem (in one year or so).

Anyway, I don't think i would be so eager to fix that, since kitkat is coming and that would make any fix useless.

It's up to you...
[Android General] elsita:
it seems clearly that you have a defective phone, unless the software you use in it is different from the rest, some apps and some roms do not let the phone going to deep sleep, I should try with the same rom, software and configuration in the "defective" phone as one of the others

about nvram miljenko has the same problem after a bad flashing, and AFAIK he still has the imei problem
[Android General] climjr:
Did you manage to fixed your battery problem already?
[Android General] elsita:
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yes I did, I had turned the led on using the method for w200, I undid it and battery went to normal
[Android General] DJRocha:
Hi, i just took of the power saving mode and...

No more lags even with stock launcher, but i'm going to change it anyway...

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[Android General] DJRocha:
This may be a dum question but here it goes...

Wen you see a video on Facebook or G+ or on the web anywhere, and if you touch on the description letters on the uper left corner it would ask if you want to open with the browser or the Youtube app (at least in w100 and Sony walkman and on any android that i know) but on my phone it goes directly to browser ! :(

Does anybody know how to make that happen ?

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[Android General] elsita:
yes, this is a very basic android question, you must have selected to open in browser by default even if you don't remember, to solve it go to apps administration and select the browser that opens, it has an option called something like predetermined open or something like that, I have mine in spanish and can't remember the english words, tap delete settings, then when you tap a link to youtube you can choose again
[Android General] DJRocha:
It shoud be basics but... Still does the same thing.

In browser app i have no "predefenitions" (mine is in portuguese so i'm translating...)

Im refering to the videos on the browser that have that descriptions, i touch it and it goes directly to m.youtube...can't figure out why.

In facebook most of vieos ask what you want to do, on the browser just don't...

Could you try to find out a site that has that kind of video ?

I could send you a link and you trie it, if that ok.

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Try to to this video about ayrton senna if you could please, and see if it happends to you.

http://autosport.pt/relembrar-ayrton-senna=f121851

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[Android General] madzo:
Do you use another browser? It usually happens with Dolphin.
[Android General] DJRocha:
I am using stock still...

PS : just tried whith Crome and it works, not in firefox...its odd !

Does anybody knows why it does that ?

I used to love stock browser becase it suports flash and as you can see from my foto i love MotoGP and fotball.

I whatch it all the time on my phone but there aren't many browsers that support flash...

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[Android General] Augustine02:
Does the THL W200S full or limited OTG support?
[Android General] Vonnegut:
Chrome uses his own flashplayer.

As for the official player, well, Adobe has stopped developing it a while ago. Here's why --> http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/28/adobe-confirms-it-wont-support-flash-on-android-4-1/

Unfortunately, there are very few sites supporting HTLM5 so flash is still needed.

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The reason is explained by the creator of Crappalinks (which you can't unfortunately install, because it's an Xposed module).

http://xdaforums.com/xposed/modules/mod-crappalinks-remove-tapatalks-link-t2603868
[Android General] DJRocha:
Ok.

So, this ROM doesn't suport exposed and thats the reason why it goes directly to browser instead of going to the app or even asking what i want to open it with ?

Did i anderstand it right ?

Because i do can see streams on native browser !

It just that youtube videos on the web don't ask me if i want to open it in the app or browser.

What i am trying to say is that in w100 4.2.1 it asked me, but in this one 4.2.2 it doesn't...

Is it all about the ROM ???

And thats why Facebook and Youtube latest versions don't work proprely ?

Sorry for all the questions but i'm just a very curiouse guy not an expert on android.

Thanks

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[Android General] Vonnegut:
Nope.

I gave you the link to the Crappalinks module because i was sure you wouldn't miss to read the first 2 lines of the Introduction:

Some apps redirect all external links through their servers. This breaks intent filters (which means you can't open Play Store links with the Play Store, GitHub links with the GitHub app, etc - you're forced to use a browser to get past the redirection.)

That should give you a global answer to all your question.

I have a ROM supporting Xposed and i could install Crappalinks. Now everytime i click on a link a dialog box pops up asking me which app i want to use.
[Android General] DJRocha:
Ok, thanks i got it now.

I was confused about flash, thought you were reffering to streams... Dum me :)

Well i'm trying to get to the bottom of exchanging ROM's ( still to afraid to do so...)

There is no tuturial in Portuguese and i never did it so if it goes wrong, i'm f...

What ROM that supports exposed are you using ?

Many thanks again.

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Just noticed that the link you gave me was on page 39... Dum me...again !

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Vonnegut , can you tell me what rom are you using please ?

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[Android General] Vonnegut:
The stock ROM of my THL W200 (without S :) )

That Aliyun OS coming with ocatacores is s#@t.

THL (and Zopo) did something very stupid.

I can understand that it's aimed for chinese ppl but they could still put an AOSP ROM for the rest of the world IMHO.

They lost one client :)
[Android General] DJRocha:
If i knew that earlier...that would be 2 clients...

But as i was saying earlier... i'm just a curiose guy and needed more memory and never would guess this kind of "inventions" by THL !

Guess i'm kind of stuck with it...:(

Maby with KK thing will go better...so i hope

...i guess everyone does...

Thanks anyway !

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Talking about KitKat...

I send a question to THLMOBILESTORE.COM and the answer was :

Your question:

Does somebody knows if THL is REALLY working on KitKat ?

Or we just have to pray that they are ?

Thanks

Their answer is:

Thl Mobile :

Thank you for your mail .

Our factory is testing the latest Android kitkat firmware and we will submit it on our website soon .

Hoping thats true... can't wait for it ;)

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[Android General] Ouzo:
Have you tried repeatedly tapping the Android Version under Settings/About Phone? My Jiayu G4S also has limited developer options, but I discovered that by repeatedly tapping the Android Version it took me directly into FULL developer options. Not sure if it will work on the W200S but I guess it's worth a try...
[Android General] Coolgreek:
THL mobile store is just a shop not the THL company (http://en.thl.com.cn/product/w200s.html).

Anyway i'm kind of optimistic that we will get an official upgrade, especially as i see other brands releasing their own upgrades.
[Android General] DJRocha:
Ok, i know that.

But there is no information about our phone in official site. It just says capacity, screen type, OTG and processor, nothing else...

I thought that thlmobilestore was official...

We will just have to wait for KK...

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[Android General] Kostikas:
Thl w200 s

Today i got my W200S

Is there any instractions how to root the phone and flash

Thank you

Kostas
[Android General] susch19:
For rooting use framaroot, baramir option I think.

For flashing you have to use spflashtool and flash custom recovery and then you can flash roms like you always did over flash option of the recovery.

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[Android General] DJRocha:
How about taking a look at the first post os this tread ?

Could come in handy !!!

I think it's all there ! ;)

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[Android General] Vonnegut:
The list of the official partners is here --> http://en.thl.com.cn/doc/our-agent.html
[Android General] DJRocha:
Thats strange !

I'm from Portugal and there is a thlmobile.pt they say that they are also official and if you visit the site it's exactly like the real one...only in portuguese !

http://www.thlmobile.pt/

And you have more information about the phones than the real one

PS. I've bought from PowerPlanetOnline because of the root is possible without losing warranty...

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[Android General] Vonnegut:
Well, check this site --> www.thlphone.com

It looks like it's an offical site too, doesn't it?

2 weeks ago i wrote to Mr.Liao about that site. His answer was we do not have any other official website but http://en.thl.com.cn/.
[Android General] DJRocha:
Well it seems there are alot of look-a-like sites from THL...

I'm glad to have bought from a REAL AGENT ! Powerplanet ;)

I supose Mr.Liao is the head o THL site ? Or THL itself ?

I've beem talking to the portuguese one and they told me they were the official representitive here in portugal but...they didn't allow root whithout losing warranty so i took the right way...accidentaly !

Kkkkkkkk

Uffff ! ;)

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[Android General] Vonnegut:
http://en.thl.com.cn/contact-detail.html

Deputy General Manager = Adams Liao

Head Of Sales = Adams Liao

Media Cooperation = Adams Liao

In his spare time he also help to fix broken smartphones :)
[Android General] DJRocha:
Alway learning ! :)

...and repairing phones in spare time...kkkkkk

;)

In is spare time he should make an ASOP ROM too ! Kkkk

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[Android General] Vonnegut:
LOL!

Actually he has been working on that too...every sunday since 2011.

He told me that his ROM is still in betatesting but will be avalaible soon for all Gingerbread users out there.

After that, he'll start working on a kitkat AOSP ROM.
[Android General] DJRocha:
Gingerbread ???

Not Gellybeam ???

Only after that ???

God ! That means that KK is far from being released... :(

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[Android General] RSGI:
Still stuck in this...

People just look at the image from the front camera, doesn't it seem that the aspect ratio is 16:9? Shouldn't it be 4:3? More squared i mean....

Where can i find and fix this???

I'm pretty sure that there's a xml file somewhere that contains this settings... just need to find it...

I red somewhere that this configs could be in 'SettingsProvider.apk'. The prob is that the Vanilla ROM is odexed... so there's a 'SettingsProvider.odex'... and unpacking a odex seems to be quit an adventure...

I need some help...

plz... anyone???