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[General Topics] alexanderi:
Does anyone know how to extract out the blue Windows Default (WM5) theme? The one which is called Magento

Or anywhere I can download this similar today theme to be used for my BA?
[General Topics] hanmin:
That doesn't seems to be the default theme. I think the default in WM5 is just called Windows Default in my Today settings.
[General Topics] kdskamal:
Try this
[General Topics] alexanderi:
Thanks a lot for the theme.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jimmydafish:
I have to say that I am extremely disappointed in my Omate experience. I will not go through the entire list of grievances but The straw that broke our relationship permanently was the fact that I donated to the KS very early on, and elected to get one of devices with the inscribed serial #. I expected that as one of the early pledges I would get my Omate early but Omate has seen fit to inverse the shipping of pledges. People who pledged for December delivery received theirs long before others, and so on and so on.

How many people are in the same boat as me? Waiting on their Omate and an early pledger?
[Ornate TrueSmart] mattlgroff:
I'm still waiting for my US October 2013 Developer Edition. They won't ship it or give me real status updates. And good luck to anyone asking for refunds, they won't really do it from what I've read in comments.
[Ornate TrueSmart] homer285:
Pre-ordered mid December, since then one email from Omate, stating delivery mid Jan, it is now mid Feb and they do not reply to any emails for 45 days, disgusting customer service.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
They haven't even finished delivering to backers yet, chill.

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Omate didn't invert the pledges. The shipping company did.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jimmydafish:
Per their email, they have not shipped those because they are awaiting for the company that makes the backs to get them to them so that they can inscribe our #s on them. I would gladly have settled for my omate sans inscription.
[Ornate TrueSmart] homer285:
That is not the point and anyway from what I read around the place a few pre-orders have been received, Omate needs to get a customer service team in place pretty quick smart, at this point I'll be requesting a refund or worst case chargeback.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
You're referring to the October pledges, because some November ones went out that were missing backplates. There were other ones that were supposed to be shipped first that weren't on fault of the shipping company.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The serial number OCTOBER Developer Editions have not shipped yet. According to Omate this is due to the factory not having the back ready in time.

It has to be understood that ONLY October Developer Editions that you backed as either a 512/4 or 1/4 will get a serial number. If you backed the Oct Dev Ed. and you, not Omate, then upgraded to a 1/8, you will not get a serialized back. If you ordered additional units, only the original unit will have a serial number.

This information is current as of Feb 10 2014 per Omate via an official public update

With regards to refunds. A number of folks have received their refunds and have said as much. This info was located on the Official forum prior to it going down so I cannot provide reference links as per usual.

Should all legitimate emails be responded to? Yes. That is a failing on their part. They however receive hundreds of emails a day and have a fairly small staff. Every single one of those emails needs to be read with folks admitting to sending as many as multiple emails a day for days on end. If there had been less trolling, hate mail and bombardment the number of emails would be far more manageable. Also with such a high number of emails it is not unreasonable to assume that legitimate emails are getting buried in the "I hate you" and "Omate sucks" emails that some have admitted to sending.
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
The gifts for my pledges included a Dev edition 1/4/1900mHz that they delivered unrooted anyway. My pledge was on the last day or so of the Kickstarter and arrived almost two weeks ago.

Was it supposed to have a numbered back ? I think so, but anyway it didn't. I am glad to have it, of course, regardless. I don't think anyone else who was supposed to get a numbered back has yet, so in this case their mistake was my good fortune.

Regarding your other point, the choice of shipping was Omate's responsibility. If they chose unwisely, the results are solely the fault of Omate.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jimmydafish:
It seems you are the unofficial or official spokesperson for Omate. Maybe you can give me some sort of estimate on when I will get my Omate I pledged for.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
What was the delivery month for the tier you backed? Only those listed as have an original ship month of October on KS get the serialized back.

So what you are saying is if you ship three packages via a shipping store and they mess up it's your fault?

EDIT;

Technically all x201's are rooted. The just do not have su or SuperUser app installed.

I am the xda recognized contributor for all the x201 family of devices. So providing information and helping out the entire community is a big part of that. I have no secret info and post facts as much as possible with reference links. If I express something as an opinion I will use phrases/words like "I think" or "possibly" or "In my opinion".

Regarding your question. I have no information beyond what has been posted publicly regarding shipping. So I don't know when the factory will or has finished the backs or what the assembly status is of the TS.
[Ornate TrueSmart] adlakeche:
Product Shipments

I was an early backer then changed when they offered the the 1/8 ugrade. I have not complained, moaned, and groaned like so many. I received both of mine last week. patience is a virtue anyone who backs a Kickstarter should have. If you don't then you will miss out anyway. Just think, at least you will get yours before they start shipping pre-orders. Kick back and be happy. The next thing you know they will be on your doorstep. Nobody at Omate is trying to scam you. We no longer live in a McDonalds world. It IS worth the wait. SILENCE IS GOLDEN. LIVE HAPPY. Thanks Lokifish for your hard work.
[Ornate TrueSmart] homer285:
I can understand that, however 45 days is more than enough time to respond and I can assure you I haven't sent any troll-mails there way. I've emailed them 3 times(politely)twice asking for an eta and once asking for a refund. I also don't understand why they don't offer a refund if they know production is severely delayed and further-more they shouldn't draw funds from customers on pre-order its bad business!

I was really looking forward to getting a taste of the next generation smart-watch but unfortunately all I have is a bad taste and lousy experience, which could have been averted by simple communication. Anyway enough from me, I merely posted here rather than opening a new thread sorry OP.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mattlgroff:
The point of the October 2013 Developer Edition was for us to develop apps and test them BEFORE everyone else got their hardware.

I paid for the 1GB RAM upgrade on top of my order (again, US October 2013 Developer Edition), but not for an extra 4GB emmc. They upgraded this for me for "free" apparently to 8GB emmc. However, there is absolutely no sign of mine shipping (others who ordered variants way after me are getting their Omate and they got tracking info). They don't mention a shipping date and won't respond to emails from me anymore. The last status I got was "after Chinese New Year" emailed to me in mid-January. Since we're now in mid-February and they won't respond, its mind-numbing!

I just want a REAL status update from them about Developer Editions We are skipped.

There were 1,000 October 2013 Developer Edition ordered on Kickstarter. Then 794 November 2013 Developer Editions ordered on Kickstarter.

Somehow in their "genius," they don't ship those to the backers who ordered first (and chose the October 2013 estimated delivery). Whoever is running them is either incompetent or truly does not give 2 cents about any of their supporters (or both).

I was one of the first to order and support them, even paid extra for the RAM upgrade. Yet I get screwed over.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
As stated in post #8 Omate has said that they have yet to receive the numbered backs from the factory. So without even having the proper backs Omate cannot give an ETA at this time. That is why you have not received a email saying it on it's way.

As far as Omate not replying to emails. I have responded to that as well.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mattlgroff:
I appreciate your effort to calm concerns, but I would rather hear it directly from Omate. They don't seem to acknowledge that we'd even have the smallest right to be frustrated with their lack of communication and their screwing us over. A real campaign would have made this very clear they made a big "oopsie" and allow us to be shipped a Non-Developer model at their earlier convience. Omate is not offering this, and by the time I get my Omate Truesmart October 2013 Developer Edition, it may very well be 2015.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jimmydafish:
I will agree with you here, If Omate had a person at the helm who was competent they should have stated the problem with the backs and offered to send out non serialized backs. I would have said ok and been on my merry way.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Laurent told me his biggest fear was developers getting angry that they wouldn't get their serial backs.

In a way he was right, because there were some that received units without the correct back that complained about it anyway.

You'll get your units soon. There are a lot of things going on behind the scenes that really would not be helpful information nor would it garner any sympathy.

In a manner of speaking if it comes from myself or Loki it really doesn't get more official short of Omate themselves.

I'm sorry that's not acceptable, and it isn't really acceptable to us either.

But it is better than nothing, which is what we tell ourselves every day we have to answer questions.
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
Oh, ok ! Glad I didn't pledge my support earlier, or I would still be waiting. I think my delivery month was November, and also it got upgraded, so mine didn't get held up but for a couple of months. Just lucky I guess.

Sure ! After all, backers were told Omate had an remarkable experience in international shipping. Who knows whose fault it was that the wrong three or two pallets shipped ? Not the backers, anyway.

Oh...I guess I don't understand. Your root+ patch runs the pwn executable on the watch. That's an exploit to gain root privileges, isn't it ? If so, but the truesmart is already rooted, why is it needed to run that pwn program ?

I trust that all you are doing in the patch batch file is correct and necessary, I'm really just asking so I understand better. This might be a stupid question and I know you are busy with a ROM update, so its fine if you don't reply. Spend the time with your Princess instead !
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
I'll put it this way, Rocki had most of that experience and they made up half the Omate team.

Do the rest of the math yourself.
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
I just looked at the ROCKI Kickstarter page. Cecilia works for ROCKI too ?

OK. I can handle this math. I see I was lucky I got anything at all from my support of Omate TrueSmart KickStarter.

Thanks for that clue.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I would not go that far but getting replies back to emails. Yeah, this is where that hundreds of emails a day come in. When kuronosan has and others have said Omate has a small staff, they are not joking.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Stu|:
I'm hoping my Nov EU dev edition comes before the end of April. I want to play!
[Ornate TrueSmart] Theaccomplice88:
November dev here, still haven't received my unit. I emailed Cecilia about it, and she said it would ship after CNY, but this week has passed without any update.
[Ornate TrueSmart] SparkyRih:
I originally pledged for one Oct. Dev. Ed.

But since a lot of people wanted refunds I bought 31 more ... And I'm still awaiting them all...
[Ornate TrueSmart] poncespr:
I still have not received my dev edition, but I'd rather be last in line and

get as many hardware defects corrected as possible before shipping

as it seems that getting service for manufacturing defects will probably

not be easy.
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
Absolutely agree with you...

Who likes to wait? Nobody but it's better to wait and get "fixed" watch then be the very first and have problems with it...

I would say - only who will lose because developers get watches at the end is users and Omate...

We would make that watch even better...

When my friends are reading what's Loki doing and hiw great ROM he built they are sorry they haven't pledged ;)

Just imagine what would Omate TS be if all devs, themers and clock face designers already received watch - that would be best commercial ever...

But it's O.K - we will receive our watches very soon (I really hope end of March will be the real end of shipment) and then we'll have fun ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
Oooo, a themer! You gonna make some themes? Maybe fix the missing status bar while you diggin around?
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
I would definitely try...

BTW - latest Apktool is working with Omate firmware?

Obviously, if you're working on it but do you have problems with it?

It would be interesting to theme ROM to white ;) (Sony Xperia UI)

And yeah...you tried to build (or it's already in sources) theme chooser (tmobile theme chooser)?

We could theme all TS ROM through that theme engine (and there's millions of themes in market) - we could create new or adapt those from market...

Damm....can't wait this little bastard :)

It will be awesome challenge to work on it...
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
The latest Android Multitool from Flextrick works on the Windows side. It wasn't odexed so I didn't go any further than that.

I don't theme really but when I do it's based on power draw to make the device as battery friendly as possible. So I haven't even looked a theme engine.
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
Nice...I'm sure there will be many guys and we'll built some nice things for TS (as I can see you started pretty good ;))

Even LLP suggest users to flash your ROM - and that's why I'm sure Omate will be great watch when devs community start to develop.

We have great hardware (for watch) only software needs to be polished...

Haven't catch that - your ROM is based on stock or CM?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
It actually the patch that is recommended the most and seen as semiofficial or possibly official which I'm fine with as long as folks use it or atleast fully root there x201s.

The ROM is based on stuff from the x201 series and not just Omate firmware but to keep it simple. It's based on stock. There's no CM, official or otherwise. Same goes for AOSP/AOKP and so on.
[Ornate TrueSmart] funky0308:
Thanks for cleaning that out mate.

Weeeell...it's certainly interesting and I'm surw we'll have a lot of fun here ;)

Nice to meet you and I hope we'll built/mod/edit/theme nice and useful stuff for TS... Only hope Omate won't postpone delivery one more time ;)
[Ornate TrueSmart] mattlgroff:
They shipped a batch of Truesmart US Extreme Editions today. I didn't get any emails from Omate with tracking information so it looks like the October 2013 Dev Editions got skipped. Again.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Better take to the streets. I hear lack of understanding is worth rioting over.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mattlgroff:
I don't see how I'm being unreasonable here. Maybe if I had some "insider" contact I'd feel differently.
[Ornate TrueSmart] robrowald:
I believe that they stated that the October Dev editions would not ship until the end of February, though I could be mistaken.
[Ornate TrueSmart] jimmydafish:
Obviously some are willing to defend a Company they don't work for or have some ownership in to the death. Don't get in the way.
[Ornate TrueSmart] Lokifish Marz:
I defend both users and Omate when the facts are their side and have since the beginning. However, rumor and speculation rule. Facts, reference links, public statements from Omate and LLP, KS updates and folks with a TS in hand are very often ignored.

I understand folks are pissed about a number of things, and in some cases rightly so, but 90% of "we were never told that" usually refer to things that have been addressed publicly. Then there's things like "Omate hasn't shipped a single TrueSmart" or "IP67 means water proof!".

Now specifically addressing the Oct numbered backs. Omate and LLP have said multiple times that they have not received the backs from the factory yet. Omate even said eight days ago "the # serial number edition were not yet ready" in a very public manner. Going off of last command (or information in this case) is valid until told otherwise, they will not be shipping the Oct units at this time. Seeing that the number of backs would most likely match the number of units ordered, then the only option that would not incur a delay is to ship the Oct units without a back at all. If this has changed, I am not aware as I've had to turn off all notifications relating to Omate and the TrueSmart outside of xda due to the ongoing epidemic of rumors and misinformation.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Given that I have facts, and those facts are what I use for judgment, I deal with facts. Not opinion.

I'm not "all in" nor do I work for them. My opinion is simply based on more informed knowledge. It doesn't make it superior, but it does give me a different perspective.
[Ornate TrueSmart] papi92:
Omate doesn't care about the kickstarters. They got your money and they owe you nothing. They will know move on to sell the watches to people and make money. Remember this and we can make sure they do not get our money. I am filing a BBB and FTC complaint against them and I am filing with kickstarter to report them. This is bull poop.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Oh Lord, really?
[Ornate TrueSmart] Theaccomplice88:
FINALLY received a tracking number. so far it reads "The consignment, Germany received on 19.02.2014 in the international logistics center in Frankfurt."
[Ornate TrueSmart] davin1023:
For which edition?
[Ornate TrueSmart] pkshr:
Use the same tracking number and check it in USPS.com
[Ornate TrueSmart] PearLRoX:
Still waiting on my omate truesmart :(

No mails,no contact..since november :/
[Ornate TrueSmart] tartkennet:
Exactly the same here.
[Ornate TrueSmart] zdiamant:
+1 on no contact since November. I pledged for November delivery Developers Edition.
[Ornate TrueSmart] mattlgroff:
I've asked for a refund and they say they've acknowledged my request but do not have a time-frame at all.

Who knows when I'll get it back.
[Ornate TrueSmart] kuronosan:
Never.
[Ornate TrueSmart] E-P-S:
pledge for 1/8GB Model.

With spare bat and ship to europe/germany ~289dollar

i am so unhappy that others become the 1/8GB update for free.

and the 1/8 pledgers become a nonsense....

and still waiting
[Ornate TrueSmart] SuppleX:
Same here, seriously pissed off on how they are handling this.

October developer edition for europe. 1gb/8gb version 2100mhz.

Was one of the first to pledge and the estimated delivery date is between march and late april. And after that it will take a month to be delivered from china.

Early EU developer backers will be the last in line to receive their watches. Great job omate! You f*cked up!
[Ornate TrueSmart] richB7:
August Pldge

So what has been shipped to whom? I pledged to KickStarter in August and have not heard a peep since November.

***UPDATE***

Got a tracking number today. Passed through New York and on its was to me....
[Ornate TrueSmart] zdiamant:
WooHoo!!! I just received a tracking number and it says it has gotten to the United States! I can't wait. Hopefully only a few more days!
[Ornate TrueSmart] fn1046:
Which version did you get?
[Ornate TrueSmart] musicnyc:
US backer here (New York), just received my tracking info. Pledged the 1/4 Std. Ed., so I assume I'm getting the 1/8. Will post again when received...
[Ornate TrueSmart] fn1046:
Very nice! Glad to see omate is shipping more pledges out. It will probably still be a month or more before they ship my October Ed. but I'm still looking forward to it.
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
Be sure to be home for the delivery attempt because you, or someone, has to sign.

After mine had reached the USPS in New York, I think, on a Friday, it was delivered with the regular mail on Monday, here in NC. I was surprised. I just stared at it for a while, taking pictures of the cracked clear plastic casing, before opening it. Still very happy with mine though your experience may vary. Want to take it kayaking, but its still too chilly for that.

Maybe I can make a water-resistant cover out of a cut off surgical glove ?
[Ornate TrueSmart] musicnyc:
Thanks, my building has a ground floor office that signs for everything. I've heard a lot about damages during shipping; I'll keep my fingers crossed.
[Ornate TrueSmart] trent999:
Don't worry, the watch itself was undamaged during shipment and is still working as well as any of them do. Just don't get it wet.
[Ornate TrueSmart] corey0928:
I asked for a refund at the beginning of January and was in contact with Cecelia then all of a sudden she stopped responding (after she was no help at all) and now I can't get a response from omate. All I want is a watch or a refund. Backed a 1/8 October edition with a shirt keychain and probably something else. Would've just bought a galaxy gear with my note 3 Or a pebble if I would've know it was going to be this bad
[Ornate TrueSmart] zdiamant:
I ordered the 1/4 1900 November edition. Still checking my front door every day! :fingers-crossed:
[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
Well tomorrow is the day the October ones are finally supposed to be shipping.

Who's willing to bet we won't get tracking numbers?

*sigh* so sad..
[Ornate TrueSmart] dtmcnamara:
yep...im still waiting on 5 OCT dev units that I purchased for family members for Christmas...maybe I can give the watches to them for Christmas 2014

:)
[Ornate TrueSmart] fn1046:
I didn't hear that they were supposed to start shipping. Didn't update 61 just say "the developer edition will fellow after the regular". I don't recall omate saying a day, or even a week. Hope they ship, as I'm still waiting.
[Ornate TrueSmart] speedyink:
Yeah, thinking about it, the end of Feb was the last time frame they stated. Now it's supposed to follow the standard ones and go till the end of March. That is until the end of March hits, then it will be the end of April. Then at the end of April we'll find that, silly us, the end of April time frame was just an April Fools joke!

I see how this game is played now
[Ornate TrueSmart] gkoo6675:
I received mine yesterday and initially thought it would be too heavy to sit on my wrist. I have been playing with the smartq z watch and was satisfied with it for the purposes of linking with my note3 but it was still a bit sluggish on response.

I have too admit it feels Ok on my wrist. Thanks notable the imperium root patch and played with it a bit and like it from a response perspective better than the smartq. Still as has been mentioned, the smartq sync software is further along that what is available for the truesmart. Still most of the items that I thought initially would be problematic for me have been tweaked by adding an app or two as needed.

I did order the 1gb/4gb 1900 I believe in the early November time frame but I would have look back and see. I use it with an att Sim card which I used for my go phone. Worked well first time I plugged it in. Didn't have any issues with the cover removal to plug that in although it is a bit tight since I used a micro adapter for it but I don't expect to remove it in their future.
[Ornate TrueSmart] JJJAGUAR:
I'm confused. My pledge is a 1900 November Standard Edition (512/4), but in the the last update I only see dates for 1900 October Editon. Can anyone tell me when is supposed to be shipping my model?