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[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
Sony never removed code, so if ART is only disabled, it could be enabled again...

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[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
It's still in Sony's source for the KitKat updates released so far? Interesting.

If so, it should be fairly easy to expose the option to activate it.

I had read that you have to set a flag during the build process to include ART in your rom though, so maybe the code isn't there.

I'm only an interested amateur though, so haven't looked to see if it is in the source. :D
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
I haven't checked neither as I am not usually building rom from source, just shared my experience, for example they have only desactivated app ops in JB 4.3.

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[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Oh, I see. I guess we'll have to see when 4.4 releases then. Hopefully they will have just disabled the option to activate ART in the same way as App Ops, so those of us that want to can use it. :)

Edit -

Xperia Blog have done a review of the KitKat firmware update.

While not for our device, it shows what we should be getting.

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/2...review/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

(This is not meant to be part of my reply to niaboc79. Double posting is not allowed and I just read the article and wanted to share it here).
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
I hope that Z get new launcher but keep old lockscreen(I prefer old left swipe to open camera...)

And I don't like new notifications menu... its looks a bit odd with this black color.

this look a bit bad... and they should putt camera movies on top in My collection/category. now I need to scroll down to get to it, it should be stick to top.

And personally I hate so much FB and social media in Walkman...
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
check the kitkat review posted above .. blinds animation is gone .

about walkman u can just disable video unlimited it goes away .

and notfication slider color can be changed through gravitybox
[Xperia Z General] JasonStathom:
That's sad
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
I was talking about that review :]

Yes, I can disable it, and I did, just like I disabled almost half of FB/Social app in my Xperia Z, but its a bit annoying that they put this options everywhere, I was using SE walkman series all the time, and just like loots of people I like to LISTEN music, I dont care what my friends doing, If they found nice track they would just tell me about it...

And gravitybox its not solution, we talking about stock firmware. Sony should see how that black notification menu looks like compared to rest of OS that have loots of transparent menus.
[Xperia Z General] aftabbabar:
blah blah blah, talking about everything except news on 4.4.2 release. I check this thread everyday to get some news on kit kat release date but instead I end up reading all the features we don't get or will get in the new update.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
If you read every day, then you would have seen this link posted about 10 times.

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/

The update is not coming until at least mid Q2 (May). No need to check daily.

Discussion on possible features of the update is not off topic anyway. Complaining that others are discussing that subject is, however.
[Xperia Z General] vip_47:
10.4.1.B.0.109
[Xperia Z General] NamenIos:
If you are a dev you really should get a Nexus device, there you will get the latest Android without a delay, which would be very important if you are a developer. If you are an end user choose your phone to your best liking and do not use art until its standard (and not experimental) imo.

Benefits? If I recall correctly there wasn't any. Also you have lots of apps and one (arguably a big one) is not working. Thats probably over 0.3% on your phone and that is a lot (about 4000 if you extrapolate, which is probably inaccurate).

And yet they exist and cause harm. And this is probably why Sony hid the option. Perfectly understandable and sadly the smartest choice in my opinion.

Yeah well, as I stated I would like to have the option too. But this is a flawed argument, you are free to decide to ditch the phone or install PA/CM etc.

It is very likely in there. It would be much more work to remove ART than to hide the option.
[Xperia Z General] PNuT.:
why not send me down the apple store.......

:rolleyes:
[Xperia Z General] fards:
that doesn't look like a 4.4.x build, but an update to 101. interesting though! customization number.

and for those blarting on about ART, i do dev, and personally think ART is a lot more mature than dalvik at the stage its at.

The only reason for not using it from an enduser standpoint is if there's an app that deliberately messes around with the VM, and that isn't playing by the rules really. :cool:
[Xperia Z General] spyfly:
Let's see. It can be that this will be an bugfix update for our Z.
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Wikipedia just crashed on the Z1 today (the problem is clicking a link that triggers Wikipedia makes it force quit) so in fact it isn't anything to do with ART being enabled.

So now it's 0.00%. Probably best not to extrapolate that, as even I don't think that this proves no apps have any problems. ;)

Very sad. It's also why we have lower and lower speed limits, to cater for the lowest common denominator.

Anyway - it's not the biggest problem in the world so let's leave it at that.
[Xperia Z General] RyomaEchizen:
Cust Nr please :)

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[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
1271-2566 Spain Movistar has it for the C6603. It's likely it's just a carrier specific 4.3 firmware.
[Xperia Z General] Mobe1969:
Nice. I was only just sort of interested in the update until I saw that review - full transparency, and the screenshot BACK on the power off menu, finally.:good:
[Xperia Z General] bloodsuckingcomputer:
That is not full transparency, though I agree that It looks nice, nicer than full transparency IMO. I have mine with full transparency via gravity box for a while now. FYI, my power menu off have a lot more than that, gravity box of course.;)
[Xperia Z General] Mobe1969:
Hmm, that sounds good - but requires rooting doesn't it?
[Xperia Z General] bloodsuckingcomputer:
Yes.:)

Here's how it looks, full transparency.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
That looks really clean. If there's a root for .101 then I'll do this before upgrading to 4.4, whenever they decide to release it.
[Xperia Z General] bloodsuckingcomputer:
There is a root for 101 no? Mine is rooted 101 with locked bootloader.

I like it clean and yet I want it functional, There are 4 hidden icons next to my tiny app drawer icon and 4 gestures commands that will launch my most used apps. And as for the rest of the apps, I don't mind digging into my app drawer.:D
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
This is mine.. Fully tranceparent... If u r rooted use GEM xperia xposed... That's nice.. ? and i saw some pictures 4.4 got fully tranceparent system ui... I guess im right... Lol

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] X96:
Oh that's nice. But how did you get that battery icon?
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Install the Xperia 4.4 System UI port
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Yes.. Look it on Themes section... It's. [MENTION=4970751]Rajeev[/MENTION] s mod.... Try it

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2677822

Just check this link buddy??

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] HellRoot:
Hey people.. Don't look forward to the kitkat update, on the Z1 it is a bad update, several people are having camera issues and battery drain and many other things...
[Xperia Z General] macshanemike:
Keep in mind

Keep in mind that the update will get a further minor update to fix the bugs and remember that sony are very quick at fixing issues, plus it is new android version that they have updated so there will be bugs for new updates
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Hey are there any bugs that are worth mentioning and are willing to share here?
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
one of them i read was alarm and music play on internal speaker instead of loud speaker sometimes ..

battery heats up when camera is on for longer duration and high battery drain than last 4.3 they had
[Xperia Z General] kamalmawa:
Now I'm glad that we won't get the update till May as Sony has more time to fix these issues and then give us a firmware with less bugs. Then again this could be just device specific bugs ;)
[Xperia Z General] alkesh95:
4.4.3 is also on the way

So we should get 4.4.3
[Xperia Z General] HellRoot:
Yeah..the speaker problem... Overheating by camera and use and charging... There has always been major bugs in sony software... And lies about camera etc...

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Let's hope so... Or firmware has not been tested it seems :P
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
oh ):

come on sony! at least make the wait worthwhile
[Xperia Z General] paulkhim:
notification and ring tone comes out in the earpiece speaker sometimes and when you listen to music using head set and after you pulled the headset out the sound get stuck in the earpiece speaker.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
really..... that's a bit disappointing.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
At least they'll fix annoying problems in their source and we shouldn't have them in our 4.4 release. ;)

Always look on the bright side people. :D
[Xperia Z General] blop135:
Hi

I'm rooted but I don't find how you do to have transparency like you do ,I don't know what to flash ,where did you find it please:)?

Thanks
[Xperia Z General] fards:
I'm thinking that Sony need to start making beta releases a bit more public so they get proper bug testing.

They did make a fuss about doing this a couple of years back , but it never really went anywhere
[Xperia Z General] Pablosch23:
if you have xposed installer in your device, download gem xperia xposed or gravity box, is very easy!
[Xperia Z General] blop135:
No I don't, is it hard to install ?

Sorry but i'm kind of noob^^
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
no it is easy ..like installing an app .
[Xperia Z General] blop135:
Ok I'll try to find this on thé forum;)
[Xperia Z General] bloodsuckingcomputer:
Sorry for late reply,

First off, you need Xposed Framework, then, if all you need is just the transparency, you better off with GEM Xperia Xposed, but if you want more, Gravity Box comes with endless possibilities, you can also install both mentioned via Xposed Framework itself, get into modules and find em.(Or just click on the words and it will lead you there).
[Xperia Z General] blop135:
Ok, I'll try this . Thanks;)
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
That would be a nice thing to have, but who would be held responsible if someone's device got damaged?

Surely Sony can't say it is the user's fault for beta testing their own software..
[Xperia Z General] fards:
the original suggestions were for unlocked bootloaders, so there would be no warranty..
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
oh yes, that makes much more sense.
[Xperia Z General] AUG:
I think the 4.4 UPDATE will release at the 18th month of xperia z `s life.
[Xperia Z General] Pablosch23:
just like he said..like installing a normal app, let me know if u need help
[Xperia Z General] blop135:
I did find it ,it works perfectly ,there is only one thing ,everytime I reboot my phone ,it makes an update of all the apps, I don't know if it's normal
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
You should really start a thread in the Q&A section if you need further help, as this is beginning to lead this thread way off-topic now. ;)
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
I suggest everyone not to jump into 4.4 Update right away.. There are generally 3 phases of updates.. Initial, BETA, Stable.. The 1st update is always buggy, 2nd build will be bug fixing and improvements and finally 3rd build will be the Stable one.. Although for flagship devices, they take only 2 phases.. Initial and then Stable directly. They tend to concentrate more and have their elite developers team to build the ROMs for their flagships.. I got the news that XZ is also with the elite developer team along with XZ2, XZ1 series now.. Although hope to see a decent 4.4 build first up from SONY.. :)
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
I don't think so, also you cannot destroy a locked bootloader device with a bad flash or a buggy firmware, as the bootloader will always allow you to reflash an official firmware.
[Xperia Z General] Pablosch23:
I'm afraid I can't help you,you can make a post in help and troubleshooting.
[Xperia Z General] HellRoot:
Don't count on it... Z1 firmware is a mistake..and from what I know the z2 has issues with the firmware also...

Elite team.. In failing :)
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Yep, I saw it on Z1 and Z1 Compact. KK is quite buggy. Many problems with sound, telephony, sd cards... I don't mind waiting KK for XZ until new year 2015 if it is gonna be problem-free.
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
Vodafone AU is waiting for the software to arrive for testing!

http://community.vodafone.com.au/t5...Update-Weekly-Wrap-3rd-April-2014/ba-p/328393
[Xperia Z General] ApriliaM3:
I've had a cleanup here guys and I'd prefer not to be returning for the same reasons.

If you can't keep things on-topic and civil here, I'll just close the thread... In fact I'm struggling to find any decent reason for it to remain open.

Please resist the urge to ask "When will XXXX be released" because nobody knows... It will be released when it's ready.
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Hmmmmm..... Lotz of hopes.....

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] mcjordan92:
So is it out yet?? I really don't get it..

I haven't been here for a while and the OP isn't updated.. the date has passed and Development section is kinda full of 4.4 ROMs but there is no post of the official release of the kitkat stock ROM.
[Xperia Z General] Metallijim:
Nope.

Sent from Z Beast
[Xperia Z General] mcjordan92:
Bummer :( I got excited for few minutes
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Don't expect anything to happen until at least next month.

This is posted quite a few times in this thread by me, but here it is again as it's the only official word on release - http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/

From that article -

Anything else is basically speculation or confirmation of that. :)
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
What's the hurry with KK? It is better for us to be later released. Haven't You see what problems Z1 lineup have with KK? I do not want to have these gimmicks on my beloved XZ. I had enough of trouble on first edition of 4.3 JB.

At the end of May/start of June, 4.4.2 will be less buggy and more advanced. We will get it, no worries.
[Xperia Z General] msc3169:
Why is this thread even open? It's the same comments repeated over and over again.

And guys have patience, OEMs don't care if small group of people here at xda are awaiting the updates. Most of the average users don't even care about updates so there is no real incentive for them to be bang on schedule.
[Xperia Z General] Richy99:
so with everyone clambering for 4.4, what specific things are you needing that 4.3 doesn't have? If you gave a person 4.1.2 and then 4.4 I highly doubt they would see any difference or is it that you just feel left behind because someone you know has 4.4?
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Better interface, more native android features, more sony features, better android OS optimizations.
[Xperia Z General] Richy99:
better interface how? it will look the same

which native android features do you need then? this is what im asking

which sony features are you specifically needing?
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
look at video reviews of the Z1 running android kitkat and you will see the interface differences.

as for the rest, technically you don't need anything more than android 2.3 gingerbread, the rest are just really nice features that make life easier. small things for example better placed camera shortcut, a more compact notification centre, 4.4 kitkat fixes security flaws that were present in 4.3.

Maybe to you, you don't need those features and it is fine, but to others like me, those features are really nice and we want them. hence the sense of urgent "need" because other manufacturers have already rolled this out
[Xperia Z General] Richy99:
better placed camera shortcut? wow didn't know it had to stay where it was on default

and sounds like you just feel left out that sony haven't delivered 4.4 where other providers have but nothing I have seen on the z1 interface makes it stand out, just get the xposed framework and tweak away
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Actually What's ur Problem Mate ? U Don't Want 4.4.2 Official Update From Sony ? If Sony Deliver Updates Tomorrow Means Also U Will Not Update It To 4.4.2 Ha ? Just Asking....:confused:
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
lol this thread is going to get shut down .
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Awesome. It appears that you don't care about the 4.4 update so you can leave this thread :)
[Xperia Z General] Chronic2k13:
Wtf!! Come on children!! Quit yo jibba jabba

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Best thing to do is wait for the official kk update, hang tight, bug free.....well.......that will come soon enough but

..it'll be more stable....but in the meantime eXistenZ v 6.6 is the nearest and best Rom you will find so far

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Now quit ur jibba jabba and stop trolling the OP
[Xperia Z General] :
This guy just summarised the entire thread.

Honestly, this thread should be closed, KK is due to arrive from mid Q2. End of.
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
I'm thinking that it should be closed too.
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Lock this thread. We will not see KK for a one month period minimum.

And when we get it, no worries, tons of new threads will be open again e.g. I didnt get it, please HK, give me India, wheres my update...etc etc.

See ya all in May and talk about kk experience.

To all whinners - stay cool and patient, you WILL GET IT, dammit.
[Xperia Z General] laufersteppenwolf:
Thread slightly cleaned. There's no need to fight, is it? I mean, we're all here to have fun, not to fight/argue.

Also, I will keep the thread open for now, as it still can be useful. However, if it gets too OT, it'll be closed. Not a threat, but a reminder ;)
[Xperia Z General] BaZ418:
Woohoo someone at last giving some attention to trolls and idiots
[Xperia Z General] macshanemike:
Good news the kitkat update will definitely be released next month for the xz according to this:

https://www.facebook.com/SonyXperia...0000077877620/272364752923285/?type=3&theater
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
"Content currently unavailable". It looks like whatever it is was removed. What was it? Just FYI, that page is not an official Sony page by the look of it.
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
It was fake info by some moron who wanted to be an attention whore.
[Xperia Z General] pjgowtham:
If someone wants a 4.4 placebo effect, just change the android version value from 4.3 to 4.4.2 in /system/build.prop

Simple enough to show people u have 4.4
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Recently Sony released a second Kitkat update for the devices that already have it, fixing some of the major bugs.

i think there is a good chance that these bugs won't be present in our build. yay
[Xperia Z General] jonmorris:
Surely you put 4.5 and really get people going mad!
[Xperia Z General] :
I did something similar a few days ago.
[Xperia Z General] ouroukai90:
Ahah you just win this dude ! :D :good:
[Xperia Z General] didicola:
http://www.gsmarena.com/slew_of_sony_xperia_z_phones_get_kitkat_442_bug_fix-news-8262.php
[Xperia Z General] eagle25884:
That means, Xperia Z1, Xperia Z Ultra, and Xperia Z1 Compact were KK-Beta-Testers for our XZ :laugh:

Our XZ will receive the bug-free Version.
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Yeah, better they polish kk firmware for the XZ, as it will probably be the last one we will ever see for our device.
[Xperia Z General] androidfreak70:
heh what could the people do if that loooooong waiting end by buggy and bad rom? the same thing happend before the release of the 4.3 JB rom

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humm thats maybe right OR THE DESCOVER THE BUGS FROM Z ULTRA AND Z1 AND Z1 COMPACT AND PORT THEM TO XPERIA!! Z:D:D THAT MAY AN SONY EVIL DEVELOPER DO THAT!!!!!:laugh:
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Not probably the last. Certanly the last update for XZ.
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
LOL look at the comments of the article. Some kid called "sanjaykarmakar" saying "I request my phone Xperia z kit kat 4.4.2 update. Please as soon as possible." - it's almost as if he thinks Sony will read that very comment and think that seeing as that dude requests it, they'd better release it.
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Lol?????????

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] pjgowtham:
Better to close this thread to avoid comedies, useless discussions. Even if the world is gono end tomorrow, Sony will release only when they have planned. If wonders happen, we'll create a useful thread.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
"Sony will release only when they have planned"

Go ask the Xperia S users what they think of that statement.
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Do not shout.. KEEP CALM AND WAIT ..... :cowboy:
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
I request one date with Scarlett Johansson. As he said, as soon as possible. :D
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
Sony devs are reading XDA, they are even using some of our ideas.

I am certain that they have used some of my ideas as some new things implemented are strangly exactly identical to some of my own.

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[Xperia Z General] tomitsu:
Have a break... Have a KitKat ;)

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[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
If sony is reading this.

Could u kindly change the album,movie and camera apps names to something way cooler like playmemory, cybershot and bravia player or something.

AR effect into playroom. Port more PlayStation goodies. And also since u guys are not having any IP issues like other android manufacturers, why can't u re add or introduced new features from the competitor platform into your android phone? Things like universal search, kids corner, people and messaging hubs and more.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
ohhh what sort of ideas?

and is it wrong for sony not to credit you?
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
What? I want none of the things you said.
[Xperia Z General] romeokk:
The only thing I need from Sony is not KitKat but to make Walkman app keep shuffle songs when select a song manually. This is the only thing I hate about Sony Android since ever.
[Xperia Z General] LiLTrippz:
mean post... :)
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
For example some widgets have changed and are now exactly like I've modded them.

Some new theming features are also matching.

But they used a lot of idea from other dev too.

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[Xperia Z General] Ichinose:
Another example is take photo with volume key

http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/themes-apps/mod-picture-volume-key-one-key-shoot-t2266208
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
That was a one of the top 10 features request in their support forum, they heard, they implemented it, nothing else.
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
There are 2 sides to this story of SONY using XDA devs' ideas.. One side is that we can say that its not fair on part of SONY to steal ideas of the devs.. Either they should credit em or atleast contact and then make a deal.. On the other side, i also can say its usual that Sammy, HTC companies also do the same and in return they help out the devs by providing a strong base for future fw's.. Just the base, not much.. I think it would be fair for SONY to do one of these.. Still feel bad that they just use someone else's work as their own..
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Sort of like providing AOSP source and binaries, maybe?

Like this or more specifically for our device, this?

:)