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[Galaxy S 5 General] ffchampmt:
There are methods where y9u can root and leave Knox "untripped".

My S4 is rooted and running a custom ROM with a 0x0 count.

The issue is tripping the Knox "counter". Which you can see if you boot into download mode.

0x0 means the phone is still under warranty and none of the firmware or kernels have been modified. You can ODIN back to stock still.

A 0x1, 0x2, etc, shows Sammy that you've been tinkering which will void your warranty.

Sent from my HyperDrive 14 Driven MJ7 Verizon Galaxy S4
[Galaxy S 5 General] surf1:
Maybe I'm a little confused but you just said Knox counter is triggered by tinkering, which I know. But you rooted and rom'd your phone (tinkering) and say the counter is at 0x0. Ughh I just ordered an S5 and feel like I screwed myself, my i777 dropped in water and always flashed roms on that thing no problem. Now I'm hearing of all these locked bootloader and this and that, and seeing popular devices on here with very little support. I want to root and flash when available and looks like I'm SOL. Thought about an S4 instead now through AT&T but same issue and no way to know what firmware it is when ordering online (only way to get the free deal for upgrade).

Would love an answer to this as well! As I use tibu all the time, or did on my i777 till it fell victim to water.
[Galaxy S 5 General] droidhead36:
I'll believe it when I see it Still no safe knox root for 4.4 kk on samsung devices
[Galaxy S 5 General] sameer1807:
anyone know if that supposed knox trip will disable the fingerprint scanner? i saw it on a thread a couple days ago. cause i will most likely root the phone and if it means at the cost of losing the fingerprint, i may wait on buying it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] bsweetness:
That thread you're referring to, found here, was jumping the gun on an assumption. A user has since chimed in who has the phone, and has rooted it, and said that the fingerprint scanner still works.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tommo123:
umm, that's what credit cards are for. visa vs samsung at that point as the card company is jointly liable.

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so just to clarify, with knox you can ignore it and root as always if you don't care about using it with EAS servers and the like - but, you're screwed for custom roms due to the locked bootloader?

no option to unlock it like sony gives you?
[Galaxy S 5 General] dandroid13:
No, the bootloader is unlocked. The american carriers are the ones who ask Sammy to lock things, but I see you're from the UK so you should be good.
[Galaxy S 5 General] tommo123:
ah good. an option at least
[Galaxy S 5 General] Beefheart:
If there was an exploit-based root solution which didn't trip it, Knox it wouldn't bother me at all as I'm happy to stick to stock. But I can't live without root, or Viper4Android to be more specific. I'm getting my phone on Friday, I suspect my flag will be tripped by the time I go to bed.
[Galaxy S 5 General] sdlopez83:
But they would patch it just like the s4 and you would be stuck with that bootloader until they find an abort exploit which will be much harder. Then that will be patched as well.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Beefheart:
Indeed. But unless there was a overpowering need to update the firmware (serious security issues and/or bugs or a newly introduced feature which can't be lived without), there is nothing to force someone to update the firmware the exploit works on. Sure, it's not an ideal solution, but at least it means root without the tripping of the knox flag.

It won't matter anyway. Chainfire has already stated he isn't actively looking for an exploit and it's unlikely anyone else with the ability to find one will be looking either. It's either a tripped flag or no root.
[Galaxy S 5 General] fillyo:
I've never had to return a phone under warranty, so once I am good and look it over, I don't mind tripping for root.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Beefheart:
I have phone insurance with my bank. If I did need to change it or have it repaired, the chances of it being refused because of a Knox trip is remote.
[Galaxy S 5 General] pnr2020:
i have insurance with EE so can just get it replaced if it goes wrong done it with my s4 twice no problems
[Galaxy S 5 General] :
AT&T and Verizon pay money to get the bootloaders locked down tight. Getting root will always be gruesome with a locked bootoader, so don't count on it.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Captain Zero:
Got two S5's today, an upgrade from the S4's. In November 2013, my carrier pushed the 4.2 update with Knox. Since I already had root, I nerfed it all, deleting everything related to Knox. Might not have got it all but I was able to delete most of it - certainly enough to cripple it. Now with the S5's running 4.4.2 I'll get root (CF-Autoroot) and likely trip Knox's counter (x01) but will disable it the same way.

Also, I sure as hell won't be installing Facebook or the messenger. In many ways, it's more invasive than Knox.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kevinbekon:
Only in the US :v

not going to say much..but most of the complaints about the locked bootloader are in the US market only :angel: in most parts of the world the bootloader is unlocked..dont care much about the knox being tripped because the service centres are usually considerate enough :p
[Galaxy S 5 General] eyecon82:
Seems t-mobile bootloader is unlocked. I hope Sprint's is as well
[Galaxy S 5 General] frettfreak:
So, here is my question, i am a tmobile user (i have jump / waranty as well) I am coming from mostly HTC devices (which are awesome to work with for roms and rooting) which obviously doesnt have knox. I have rooted EVERY phone i have had (and its been a lot of them) and never had any issues sending them in for warranty... is that going to change with this phone? Is this knox thing a hard fast rule that no matter what if that flag is tripped, regardless of the issue, they wont fix it? never had root or custom rom cause a hardware issue.

If thats the case, the s5 is going back before my 14 days are up and i will get the g2 or m8
[Galaxy S 5 General] samsat:
I think that until someone who has rooted and tripped knox, gets their warranty refused it's all just speculation.

How geared up are the various walk in carrier service centers to check for this?
[Galaxy S 5 General] eyecon82:
if your carrier does warranty fixes for you, they will never know unless you end up with a knowledgeable one

however, if you turn this into samsung for warranty, i suspect they will find out and purposely look for it
[Galaxy S 5 General] SeverusSnape:
I´m not sure at the Moment.

Losing Warranty if the KNOX Count goes to 0x1 when rooting the brand new Device ist not the best choice for me now.

Regards
[Galaxy S 5 General] BruceElliott:
I agree. Having used my S5 for a few days, I do not see a need for deleting/freezing apps due to speed problems. It is plenty fast as-is.

Still, I will miss being able to freeze an app with Titanium if the app has outrageous permissions or appears to be communicating to the outside world when it should not be.

An aside comment: My original Galaxy S had a 16 GB internal SD card and an empty external slot. 1.5 GB remaining at the time of transferring everything over to my S5 on Saturday. The T-Mobile S5 also has 16 GB internal SD storage. My 5-6 GB music would not transfer over due to "out of space" message. Not surprising that the new system eats up more non user data space. Looks like I will be getting an external SD card now...
[Galaxy S 5 General] nutpants:
If I go to my carrier and the s5 bootloader is locked with Knox..

I will buy a different phone.

I think Samsung had pretty much seen the last of my money.

Unless they offer a reasonable way to turn off Knox.

written in your mud with my stick
[Galaxy S 5 General] Captain Zero:
Knox

I'll share my experience for what it's worth.. I returned my S4's and picked up two S5's. The 4's had been heavily mod'd and were, of course, rooted.

While the lady at the store was getting my new phones ready I did a factory restet/wipe on the spot. It took a minute and she just glanced at it. I powered down, popped my SIM and external SD and handed it over. Done.

The Knox counter had been tripped and the status for the phone was 'custom', not 'official ' when it's stock.

Maybe I got lucky with my rep but she didn't seem equipped or interested to even check the device and by the time it gets back to Samsung for reconditioning it won't matter.

Granted, this wasn't a service call or a repair issue with a trained monkey. If they're doing their job, they'd quickly spot the flag but even so, most don't care in my experience.
[Galaxy S 5 General] st3chn0:
That's only good if your buying from the samsung store many of us have brought it through third party
[Galaxy S 5 General] pnr2020:
im from uk and have a sumsung repair centre a mile from me they really dont care about knox and will repair or replace phone but just incase one day they dont i got insurance with my provider witch is 24hr replacement only £9.99 a month so im covered
[Galaxy S 5 General] Captain Zero:
Since you have no warranty, my post doesn't apply to.you, does it.

Sent from my SM-G900W8
[Galaxy S 5 General] longjohnsteve:
I went from the S3 to the S5, KNOX hasnt been a problem on the s3, if you know what you're doing and accept the consequences of rooting you shouldnt have a problem. Flash counter gets tripped? so what, just take really good care of the phone and you should be fine IMO.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kaspar737:
So, even if you only root S5, Knox will be tripped? If not, how about installing custom ROMs/kernels?
[Galaxy S 5 General] harise100:
It is less cumbersome to simply trip the Knox flag, than to enter some long codes from manufacturers homepage.

Samsung is just doing what HTC and Sony are doing long time ago. Registering who activated the root access on the phone.

So I bought the phone and installed SuperSU on the same day.
[Galaxy S 5 General] kaspar737:
So you are saying you'd rather permanently have no warranty than enter IMEI code once?
[Galaxy S 5 General] nikzDHD:
Unlocking the bootloader on HTC phones officially voids your warranty as well no different than tripping KNOX. With Sony it's a bit different as you seem to lose some drm related stuff/Sony engines but I don't pay attention to Sony devices.

At the end of the day it also depends where you live and luck of the draw. In the EU we have 2 year warranties and can argue with European law. They have to prove that us tampering with the software caused hardware damage. They can refuse to fix your product but most times they just fix it despite for example tripping Knox. I've previously sent previous Samsung devices running custom firmware and had no issues in warranty. But like I said it depends but most times here in the EU we should be fine.

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For custom roms and kernels you need a custom recovery, by installing a custom recovery you void Knox as well as rooting. There were patches before on the Note 3 to just root without voiding Knox but this method was patched on the Kit Kat update rendering it useless.
[Galaxy S 5 General] THFourteen:
Briefly considered not rooting mine due to this Knox business.

But after two days of struggling with the SD card crap on KitKat I couldn't cope and have rooted it.

Plus I want my sixaxis Bluetooth support too. And titanium backup. And custom ROMs.
[Galaxy S 5 General] Captain Zero:
This was at my carrier's store. Samsung store? Who pays retail for a phone?

Sent from my SM-G900W8
[Galaxy S 5 General] kms108:
I always buy from a samsung store, it's more expensive, but my friends work there and I can spend hours their to check for problems like dead pixels, scratches and other problems, I also get a very good trade in price and many free gifts. From a carrier or other stores it's like 4 pixels or more for a exchange, and they give you the evil eyes if you check too long, and even with a slight scratch they will just say it isn't a problem.
[Galaxy S 5 General] antichoice:
I buy LG G Pro 2

Knox and the flag are worst thing i can imagine
[Galaxy S 5 General] ShadowLea:
I'm in the EU, I have a legal insurance and I have every bit the stubbornness to take things to the media and court if they refuse me my 2y warranty by breaking EU law. So I really don't care.

Opening your Xbox voids warranty too. Even your old VHS had that sticker. Unlocking a Wii or PSP voided your warranty. To unlock the bootloader on your TF700 you had to use an official Asus tool that registered you and voided your warranty.
[General Questions and Answers] AhmadLight:
Hello,

I've rooted my NOTE 8.0 N5110 (wifi only version)

I used Triangle Away 3.26 to reset the counter to 0

I succeeded and now I can see in the download mode... status: official and counter is set to 0

but in "About" in the "settings", I see (Custom)

When I try to update software I get: "Your device has been modified software updates are not available"

How to solve this problem??

Thanks
[General Questions and Answers] AhmadLight:
UP ^^^
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] pang34:
Everybody can port the touchwiz home to cm11?

I need it
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eswarvf:
here

i didn't port it but ive shared it
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DjWacko:
Hi,

The Touchwiz home isn't working for me on my samsung s3 mini:(

After installing in recovery. it stops everytime i select the touchwiz.

I'm on Carbon rom 4.4.2.

Maybe this is the problem?

Greetz
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DjWacko:
the

Touchwiz is working on CM11 after reinstalling it :).

It's a Carbon Rom problem :d

Thx
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] TauTau:
Hi,

for each SMS I send, I get a confirmation SMS, which is nice, and I like that. But I would prefer that those special SMS don't ring the same tone as normal SMS messages, as it gets annoying somethimes... Is there any way to change that, without completely disabling delivery notification?

Lars
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
Hay!

Does anybody have a problem with SMS application on stock firmware/rom?

Sometimes it freezes occasionally and this does not show the contacts in sms. You must force close it...

I think, maybe people with V20A/V20B euro-open firmware (P88020b-EUR-XXX) having this problem:confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] peppethustra:
Yes, I faced this problem too with stock fw and custom kernels..sincerely, I don't remember if the problem was happening with stock kernel too
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
Tnx for answer. So, my phone is not with unique error.

Is your stock firmware open euro 20A/20B?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] peppethustra:
It was v20A Euro open fw
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Yes sometimes when i enter sms it get stuck wont load names and messages then just press menu clean ram clena recent apps and it ahould work.This is happening on 20b CWT firmware.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
same here, it happened sometimes, i can confirm that this workaround is possible
[LG Optimus 4X HD] TheSkyline35:
Yes me too. The only way to fix it is to use a ROM Custom, or just a custom base on the stock (like "Enox Rom")
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
Now i belive that problem problem is with V20A/B firmware... Have anyone problem with V20C or D ?

...p.s. do you have link to instruction for install enox rom on base/stock ?

Tnx!!

sorry for my bad english.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] balloon27:
Just the same as for every custom ROM: root your device, unlock your bootloader, flash a custom recovery and then your ready to flash ROMs. Follow the tutorial on this forum for everything about the process.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
Need i flash with V20D firmware before flash enox rom, or is it included?

If sameday i flash phone with official KZD file and kdz-updater, will be bootloader locked again?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] balloon27:
No need to upgrade to D, V20A/B is fine;) And unfortunately you can't relock your bootloader.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
Tnx for Answers!

To bad, because i have two years warranty on the phone and with unlock bootloader i will lose it. :rolleyes:

P.s.: But I can root the phone with locked bootloader, so i can change stock sms app for "8sms"?

Will be phone unroot again, if i flash with official kdz file?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
yes, yes
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
great. tnx guys...

Now i can replace my official stock sms app..

I was replace official screenlock and screenlock settings from EnoxRom from system folder and i have a G2 Crystal effect lockscreen :)

I think this is great, becuse you can made your own modification without bootloader unlock and you don't lose your warranty.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
Hi.

A was trying to replace stock sms app unimessages.apk for chomp sms.

I moved a chomp apk in system app folder and changed permission! (and did a backup for stock apk)

now chomp sms won't open. What's the problem?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
just install the apk normally, and turn off notification for default sms app (it's in the options somewhere, must be). no need to install that app as system app
[LG Optimus 4X HD] clesuite:
If anybodey need it, there is a higher verison of stock sms aplication UniMessage.apk v3.5.51....

Don't forget to delete a odex and change permission.

http://www.4shared.com/mobile/K5F_Lqjfba/UniMessagebin.html

It's not crashing anymore :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skaryon:
Hey there,

I'm on a rooted xperia stock ROM (4.3). I use no task killer. All of my open apps seem to randomly close from time to time when minimized. Switchr, setcpu etc. That should run in the background just randomly close.

Any ideas what may cause this? Thanks in advance!
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] eclyptos:
Yes, it's a Ram issue related. Probably you are on .290 and on that FW this is a known problem when you try to go back to the application from multitasking menu. A Ram problem was fixed on .136, this is what many users reported but I am not sure. What i know there is no any solution at the moment.
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Skaryon:
Thanks a lot this explains it. I'll flash a newer rom then.

Gesendet von meinem C6903 mit Tapatalk
[Xperia Z1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] reignzy:
This problem still exists on .136
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shakta:
Hello guys,

I tried to figure this out but no luck.

Some Kernels, and other downloads (Roms, Recoveries etc) are depends on your Android version (GB, ICS, JB, KK).

What about cf root?

I have i9300, running 4.3

CF-ROOT for ICS and for JB, are the same?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1695238

CF root stopped development a long time ago .
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shakta:
It says that CF-Auto-Root still has development.

Anyway - Can you explain me how I can be sure which Root belongs to my device?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
You asked cf root not cf autoroot i answered .

Read the thread for the root method you want to use ,
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shakta:
JJEgan - I am not sure if you here in XDA to help people, or just to talk BLABLA.

But my question was pretty clear, and you just tell me what not, and some other "non matter" stuff.

I read all CF-Auto-Root thread, but it does not say if the CF-Auto-Root works with KK, JB, or ICS.

Or it works with all i9300?

If anyone knows the answer I will appriciate that! (JJEgan - Thanks but you are not helping)
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wangdaning:
I have used it on ICS and JB. There is no GB for our device and no official KK. KK roms at the moment will come pre-rooted. If and when we get official KK we will know if it works :)
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Headzyy:
Like the title says my phone is stuck in recovery if i try to boot it just reboots to the recovery menu

I want to reset it to stock out of the box condition
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] techdani:
Download an official stock ROM and put it in your sd card, then from the recovery flash the ROM. Don't know if it occurs in all versions of custom recoveries but usually it ask if it's okay for the stock ROM to flash the stock recovery. Choose yes, then everything should be out-of-the-box.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] infodsagar:
flash it with tools

if you cant get success to flash stock in cwm than try to flash with proper tool. why shouldn't describe phone model so other member can help you asop.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] toge64:
If you forgot: http://www.theverge.com/2013/8/27/4665960/google-drops-nexus-4-price-now-starts-at-199

Can anyone see a similar style price drop or do you think Google will milk this until the day of the new one coming out?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Anything any of us say about this would be mere conjecture and any resemblance to the future truth would be pure coincidence. Any answer to this question is pointless.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dicecuber:
I hope not. A price drop would ruin the used Nexus 5 resale price

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OuncE718:
I definitely agree and hope the same. Lol

sent from my neXus 5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
Most likely. Didn't they do this with the Galaxy Nexus too?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 00MATRIX00:
Agreed.lets all hope google increases the price to 700$ like ipoop.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistahseller:
I looked into my crystal ball and it says "concentrate and ask again" :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] popos1:
Hello,

Like in title,

CM installer link: http://beta.download.cyanogenmod.org/install

So, can i install with this app CM11 in 4X HD without root and unlocked bootloader?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
No
[LG Optimus 4X HD] popos1:
Why not?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] balloon27:
Because it's not supported. The tool is designed to root and unlock the boot loader for you before installing CM. To do that, it needs to know how to do that. If the phone is not supported, it will just leave your phone in a bricked state.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ibrahim_F:
Hey guys :fingers-crossed: I have CM 11 on my S3 mini, and the battery stay only for 1 day and i have to recharge it again :rolleyes:

so my question is :

Is it normal to charge S3 mini everyday or it will harm the battery? :confused::confused:
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] GXGOW:
Keep in mind that you only have a 1500 mAh battery. It is normal for me.
[Galaxy S III Mini Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tom1491:
It's normal, because of less battery capacity it has. If I use it a lot, I recharge it twice a day.
[TouchPad General] joshua764:
Install error recovery via a new recovery version 6.0.4.6. In my Android hp touchpad. Now I do not recognize sd. One recognizes the folder ClockworkMod / backup. In the previous version of recovery I recognized all the sd. Including backup of my rom. How to make my Sd to recognize?

now only starts with webos. android does not start

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[TouchPad General] bchen_bin:
Tried enabling MTP in "storage" settings?
[TouchPad General] joshua764:
Already solved. install another recovery. Thanks

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[Omni Q&A] Franky.sac:
Heyy

My cell model no is GT n7000

And base band version is N7000XXLSO

AND BUILD NO N7000XXLSZ

i couldnt find appropriate kernal an cwm to upgrade it from 4.1.2 to 4.4 kitkat

Plz suggest me something to upgrade my cell

Thanks in advance
[Omni Q&A] XxPixX:
First flash philz kernel: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1901191

then flash raw kernel r4: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397000

then you will have a selinux compatible recovery
[Omni Q&A] Franky.sac:
I tried using it earlied but failed after 2nd step i mean the restoration part

By the by i forgot to mention that my phone might be in demo mode too
[Omni Q&A] Wongkonka:
Did you reboot recovery after flashing the first step?
[Omni Q&A] Franky.sac:
Yeah i did