yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
I agree. Even though they provide us with useful resources, I still think the more "correct" thing to do would be to at least ask for the dev's permission or credit them. I don't see a big difference between kanging roms from other devs and what Sony is apparently doing.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I should have said in my post that I do also agree that credit should be given for ideas used. That is the whole basis of open source/collaborative work and why this place even exists, after all.

Anyone feel like posting the examples of identical work from custom roms appearing in updates, just as a matter of interest? I'm quite interested in how much inspiration Sony are taking from prior work by XDA members. :)
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
Exactly.. Device specific sources should be provided before the release of an update.. Like drivers.. A base.. That's what samsung and HTC did for a few devices which they didn't update.. Or even when they delayed the update.. I think if Sony implement that technique, the device will get good fw's in future.. Although, for a couple of devices they only gave the Base but not the update.. I think Sammy S2 got 4.2 base, but not the update.. Hence devs were able to build custom roms easily.. There should be mutual co-operation b/w XDA and OEM's.. Then the true meaning of Open Source will be seen..
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Well, there's no requirement to release source before an update drops and I cannot see the benefits to Sony for doing so, to be honest.

It would benefit the modding community, but Sony already engage by providing officially unlockable bootloaders, AOSP source etc.

In the end, Sony are a business and I cannot see them committing more resources towards cooperation with the community than they already have.
[Xperia Z General] darth5zaft:
Why?

They do change the name of their music player to Wollman didn't they?

Unless u haven't played around a lot of non Android device. U could see some features are taken out or cannot be put In because of IP related problem.

Sony is in a unique position as they can put stuff in without nobody suing them.

I won't mind having a restricted profile on my phone, but I guess that IP is own by Nokia. Nor does android could do universal search anymore. U could used to see your contact online status and their fb posting in the contacts app on 2.3.

I also don't mind the wait for KitKat. After all.After.KitKat update. 3rd party apps will no longer able to write on sdcard.
[Xperia Z General] lyndonguti:
[MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION] yeah buddy a smart xdaer know exactly what your talking about...and atleast even if their takingvour ideas and make it official....thats an advantage that we have ...not just like smsung and other that they dont care what we want in our device
[Xperia Z General] deanz93:
new firmware for xperia Z..maybe for bug fix

http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=22706
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
.109 is for certain regions like spain and other european countries
[Xperia Z General] wright_ac:
It's a carrier specific update, before you posting look in the forum and you'd have found it. Was specific to Movistar ES I believe.
[Xperia Z General] SXZdabbler:
For a moment there.........

C6603, fw 10.4.1.B.0.101 and rooted
[Xperia Z General] deniel:
http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-z/

From here you can see it say May
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
:D Maybe we get Commercial&Journalists FTF soon!! :D
[Xperia Z General] mankent7:
Hope they can fixed 4.3 wakelocks problem. 4.3 really battery hungry compare to 4.2.2. and front facing camera so many noise. hope they will release newer driver for front facing camera and reduce the noise. my girlfriend also compain said that my phone talking selfie is terrible and worst than she's galaxy s3. :(
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Yep, bad selfie is the worst thing you can imagine.
[Xperia Z General] mankent7:
but it doing great while at outdoor or good light condition, still donno why sony don't include face detection on front camera.:confused:
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Obviously, Sony don't care for selfcentered people tooking selfies all day.

Sorry, but this is absolutely irrelevant issue.
[Xperia Z General] joeyxl:
As much as I agree, this is not fair to say. When you buy somthing, you dont get a half assed part of it. Its not a irrelevant issue at all if a part of my phone isint working correctly.
[Xperia Z General] macshanemike:
Its official, kitkat will be available on our devices from next month

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-z/
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
That's old news...
[Xperia Z General] mankent7:
Is kind of awkward when iphone4 and samsung galaxy s3 front facing camera is having better shot than our 2013 flagship model.

And without the face detection of front camera is like a plain picture without any focus.

everytime using the ar effect camera from front camera it does have a fun with that apps but once you took a photo in indoor or lowlight is like a 2005 nokia phone.

if it really can't help xperia z c6603 please next flagship xperia z3 please make it better or at least don't let us down.
[Xperia Z General] macshanemike:
It was made official during the night
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Well, maybe I overreacted. I should say it like it is my opinion, not general meaning.

So, my opinion is - I am okay with front camera, since I don't use or take selfies. :cyclops:
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
They updated the page 2 days ago.
[Xperia Z General] Chronic2k13:
Be patient children!! Sony and Devs have already told you roughly when the update will come! In the meantime watch eXistenZ by [MENTION=599722]niaboc79[/MENTION] nearest you are gonna get
[Xperia Z General] pepshi:
http://www.androidcentral.com/sony-roll-out-android-kitkat-xperia-z-hardware-may

i find this on my facebook :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
well as i said it was old news
[Xperia Z General] whazz_up:
Do you guys think that the fps limitation of the xperia z will increased with this update, i mean for example for "timeshift video". Because i think the limitation is on 45 or 60 fps i think for modded timeshift video user but this patch could probably fix it so that the modder can achieve 120 fps like with the Xperia Z2. What do you guys think?
[Xperia Z General] Z3PHYR:
Snapdragon s4 pro supports up to 30 fps on HD, but someone with some knowledge could probably optimise camera libs for more fps...
[Xperia Z General] whazz_up:
yeah, but it looks like it isnt easy because on the other theared they already working on that for several weeks.
[Xperia Z General] SXZdabbler:
How soon will we get root access once we update to 4.4?
[Xperia Z General] SuperHanss:
5-7 working days.
[Xperia Z General] whazz_up:
ok that doesnt sound so long.
[Xperia Z General] DaRk MaDnEsS:
Hopefully we won't wait that long :P i want it in like the minute of KitKat getting Released :P
[Xperia Z General] Gustavo RD78:
Or less... :D

Send from my Xperia ZL-78Kernel
[Xperia Z General] RyomaEchizen:
And for Locked Bootloader? :(

Enviado desde mi Sony Xperia ZL (C6502) mediante Tapatalk 4
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Will only happen if there is an exploit.
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
Time to upload a rom and you will have root...
[Xperia Z General] ahmed1994:
could we get a journalism ftf or prototype?
[Xperia Z General] macshanemike:
There is a possibility we could see that coming our way, however it is purely up to Sony to do such a thing
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
This mean we have to wait till next month. ?

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Yes, this has been posted a few times already and we already knew the release window was mid Q2, which is May.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
4.3 doesn't even have root method... always need to go back to 4.2 and use method for 4.2... :crying:: :(
[Xperia Z General] Gustavo RD78:
is even easier to unlock the bootloader to root

Send from my Xperia ZL-78Kernel
[Xperia Z General] SXZdabbler:
I rooted my 4.3 with no problems.
[Xperia Z General] Nauju:
Can u say how u rooted 4.3 xperia z? Which method?

Send from Amazing Xperia
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
Please no offtopic more. :angel:

There are many threads about rooting and 4.3.

The only method to root 4.3 is unlocking the bootloader.

Otherwise you can flash a pre-rooted or a stock based custom ROM(no need to unlock BL).

[MENTION=4277156]Nauju[/MENTION] so please use the search function.

Would be great to see just things about 4.4 here :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] Nauju:
Sorry for off topic in prev post.. Wht can i expect in 4.4 kitkat update? I m asking some noticable update..

Sorry for bad english:

Send from Amazing Xperia
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Exactly the same UI as Z2 but without the new features introduced on the Z2 like Smart Call Handling etc...

And also without 4K videos or Timeshift Video.
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
Probably Smart Call Handling may come but Timeshift video and 4k video confirm not coming for XZ like u said.. :)
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
but the Smart Call Handling also not available for the Z1,Z1 Compact & Z Ultra 4.4.2 update.
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
No Smart Call Handling, we don't have requested Hardware.
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
Oh.. Never mind bro, we all know we will get those from ur ROMs.. :silly::silly: Stock is always boring, your ROMs are the ones that make our phones look cool.. Kudos to that... :good:
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
We need a coprocessor especially made to manage sensors in real time with nearly no power used. Introduced in Qualcomm 800.

Smart features could be added in kernel but the battery will drain quickly since main processor would be used all the time.

Envoyé de mon C6603 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] alkesh95:
Because Samsung use snapdragon 800 and 801 for flagshi
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
Guys, stop this off topic talk!
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
It was about Samsung and their stuff....
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Well looks like you got the Xperia Z2?

S3 uses Exynos 4412 Quad chipset Quad Core 1.4GHz

Maybe Samsung have their ways to add the Smart features on their phones.

Btw i only know that Xperia Z won't get any smart features in the new update except Answering Machine.
[Xperia Z General] Donald K.:
The S3 used their Exynos-CPU without a co-processor, it's just some tweaks + frontcamera.

Ot: Can't wait for 4.4.. I wonder if it's coming begin or end may..

Edit: There's an app called Smartstay ex

It uses your front cam to scan for your face and keeps your screen turned on.

Yes it really works.

Sent from my stock FW 4.3, Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Something is coming...

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/02/2...tralia/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
[Xperia Z General] almostthere:
Apps are being updated in readiness. Got this update a few minutes ago (Malaysian user)
[Xperia Z General] Chronic2k13:
Yeah I got that update too!! UK
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
Please stay on topic! We all got it and it's the second update within this month mentioning the 4.4 optimizations!
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
No, that doesn't mean anything...

This string is there in all Z1 settings since JB 4.2.2

<string name="touch_to_wake_up_inform_text">Double-tap the screen to wake up the device</string>

The strings (and many other things) are present in many apk even if they are not used.

That particular string have been added to nearly all settings.apk due to the fact that the Xperia Tablet Z use double tap to wake up ;)
[Xperia Z General] cioconebunu:
What r u trying to say bro?
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
that it is summer in sri lanka :p
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
This is what we are looking for ..................... yeeeiiii.... 4.4
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I posted that 3 days ago!
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Lmaoo
[Xperia Z General] jamorOO7:
Good job sony. I hope rom makers can release theirs as well.
[Xperia Z General] luciferzet:
4.4.2 run on Z2 :D
[Xperia Z General] Kelvin blaze:
Kikat release already?are u sure...:confused:

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Wrong type sorry.....
[Xperia Z General] mtayabkk:
i hope they will change xperia home style :P:angel:
[Xperia Z General] Badre88:
after seeing some videos , the home style is the same i think

even in Sony website you can see it

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z2/#tabs

but i think those pictures don't deliver the correct Sony KitKat Style coz in videos it was a different battery style but home and launcher are the same.
[Xperia Z General] wright_ac:
The 4.4 Xperia Home Launcher is a slightly modified version of the 4.3 Launcher it seems, hopefully though it'll mean more themes and more customisation options on top of the 4.3 ones which is a good sign!
[Xperia Z General] fatis:
You see that? Timeshift in camera settings. Do you thing it possible on our xperia ?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Timeshift Burst? We can already use it on the 4.3 camera - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.sonymobile.android.addoncamera.timeshift
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
he's probably asking about timeshift video
[Xperia Z General] geoz67:
You can already download Timeshift Burst from the Play store.
[Xperia Z General] ZynexOG:
I'm really excited for Kitkat on the Xperia Z, unfortunately my device just activated it's self-crack feature and 2/3 of the screen is unresponsive, hopefully it'll be repaired and I'll be able to indulge in the 4.4 goodness!
[Xperia Z General] deniel:
More news http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/04/23/xperia-zs-kitkat-firmware-10-5-a-0-227-spotted-on-emma/
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
That news is based on a thread on this forum, just like I suspect most of their news is. :D

See - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2727699
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Incase anyone hasn't been here yet, I will leave it here.

http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/general/sneakpeak-xperia-z-kitkat-4-4-2-t2729880
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
I pray for not destroying battery life when watching video...

in latest 4.3 I get lame 5h(720 video, mp4, phone have less than month) and as I see at all other phones(LG, Samsung etc) that get 4.4 update video is really bad(1-3h less than in 4.3)
[Xperia Z General] NetSkill:
nice to see i am not the only one who cares about this
[Xperia Z General] -iNCEPTiON-:
despartely waiting for an official update of 4.4 and see how my Xperia Z looks .. I really like the look of Nexus 4 and nexus 5 though.. if xperia z doesn't look good then i will get a nexus 5 :)
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Check the leaked build of 4.4 to see how it looks.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2731303

Specifically, here's DooMLoRD's Flickr where he uploaded screenshots - https://flickr.com/#/photos/111276775@N06/sets/72157644268044001/
[Xperia Z General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I dont have my bootloader unlocked :( and DooMLoRD said that its laggy..
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
That stops you looking at the screenshots......? ;)
[Xperia Z General] Mario210:
Laggy - Realy ??

In my opinion with little of modifications its not laggy at all.
[Xperia Z General] -iNCEPTiON-:
I cant see any screenshots on Flicker ? :(
[Xperia Z General] n_boy86:
screenshot is there

they are there if u search for the screenshots thread so u see [MENTION=231602]@doomlords flicker url :)
[Xperia Z General] worf_1977:
In my opinion, is more fluid. At least on my Z
[Xperia Z General] eagle25884:
Check, what Doom added concerning Lags in his Thread http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/development/z-leak-sony-kitkat-firmware-10-5-0-227-t2731303

especially "[ hot tip to reduce LAG!!! ]". That may help.

Screenshots KitKat 4.4 by Doomlord here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/111276775@N06/sets/72157644268044001/

And for sure: they are visible :o
[Xperia Z General] sasa3342:
10.5.A.0.227 firmware is just certificated on PTCRB http://www.ptcrb.com/vendor/complete/view_complete_request_guest.cfm?modelid=22706
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Oh no!, now we know what kind of crappy firmware we are going to get. I am not updating.
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
Try it before judging it! Also, there will be lots of differences between the one that Doomlord leaked and the final one!
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
In fact no.

They will be identicals.

Envoyé de mon C6603 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
So, no white balance and laggy as hell? :p
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
I cannot, i don't have an unlockable bootloader, so i am judging from what people says in the leak thread, they say it has lags compared to previous 4.3 firmwares, the white calibration tool has gone, no real benefits from official 4.4 like ART runtime, no new features, etc...

Always happens the same, everytime a firmware is leaked, there are naive people saying "hey don't worry, probably the final one will be much better..." but this never, ever has been turned true. The truth is that the leaked one is 10.5.A.0.227, and the certified one is 10.5.A.0.227, so they both are exactly THE SAME.
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
100% agreeing with you brother... :good:
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
If you guys think they're going to ship a firmware that has hardware acceleration disabled, then I'm not sure what to say.

Just because they got it certified, it doesn't mean that they're going to push it to consumer devices in any case. Don't they have to get test firmware certified to use it with radios enabled?

I'm not saying that they won't release this particular version as anything is possible, but it would be a strange decision to do so in it's current state.
[Xperia Z General] zirado:
For white balance you can use this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2630984

[APP][PORT][JB]Xperia Z1 White Balance For All Xperia JB

and for laggy you can buy S5;) :)) *-:)
[Xperia Z General] fards:
Can't see that one.

We don't have the bootloader, baseband and the other little extra firnwares, there's also the files from 101 that have been added by doomlord.
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Sorry to say, but "Force GPU rendering" is always disabled by default in all Sony's firmwares, in fact i know a couple of apps that show graphical glitches when enabled.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I'm well aware thanks, but I'm not talking about that....

Hardware acceleration is disabled in the test build, at least for the settings.apk.

See here. Who knows what else is disabled/removed for testing purposes?
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
All of this won't change anything...

Envoyé de mon C6603 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Any comment on hardware acceleration being disabled in at least one area? Do you think it's likely to remain that way?

Note - This is not confrontational at all. I'm just interested what someone with appropriate knowledge thinks about it. :)
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
All apk and framework are final for this build. They simply forgot to change a line for settings.apk

The official builds will only give some MORE apps and settings added by carriers.

This is the first stable KK build for the Xperia Z, look how much updates were needed for the Z2.

The bugs in Z build will be fixed later officially, and immediately with my coming rom ;)

Envoyé de mon C6603 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
So you think it will be left that way? If so, that will be....disappointing.

I'm still of the view that this isn't the release firmware, though. After all, there are certified firmwares on the PTCRB page that were not pushed to consumer devices as far as I'm aware (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Were these ever released for the C6603 officially - 10.3.1.A.1.10, 10.3.A.0.407, 10.1.A.1.431? There are a couple of others I don't recognise/remember also.

When all is said and done, nobody here knows for certain either way, so we'll just have to see what they release. :)

If it is released in the same state as the test firmware, I'll just wait for a fixed update anyway. I'm not an impatient person. :D
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
Someone got the update OTA...

Xperia Z C6603

10.5.A.0.230
[Xperia Z General] walkwitmeinhel:
Fake

Xperia Z existenze V6
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
but doesn't look fake...
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Where did you get the image from? It's not usual that updates are pushed OTA straight away. They're normally pushed via PCC first.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
facebook...

but like we saw recently,someone got the OTA update 4.4.2 KK for Z Ultra...It's the same thing...
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Ask them their customisation number, then it's easy enough to verify either way.
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
[MENTION=4931701]Ben Ling[/MENTION]

I'd say this isn't fake. :D Checked background and didn't found any defects. Please ask this guy to upload something!! :D Ben please post a link for this image. ;)
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
yeah me too

i'm asking the guy now... and for the link it won't work as he posted in a group of Sony Xperia Malaysia,you will need to join to see the post posted by members.

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He shows another screenshot... :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] X10_minipro:
It takes over one hour to get 7% on LTE? Also look at the battery, 14% first and then 56%. Doesn't necessarily have to mean anything but seems a bit sketchy IMHO.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Not that it proves anything, but the phone is on AC power.
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
Where does Xperia Update Center save the update files temporarily? Or ask him not to install it and look for the files and upload them... :D :D
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
If he provides the customisation number, then there's no need for that. There's no reason he won't provide it if this isn't a hoax......
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
[MENTION=4931701]Ben Ling[/MENTION]

Did you ask him for customization number? ;)

[MENTION=2452820]kingvortex[/MENTION]

Why there's no need for the files if we'd know customization number?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Because we can just change the customisation number on our phone and get the update ourselves.
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
But not without root... But you're right. You could share FTF file. ;)
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I think most people here have root. :)

Someone else posted a similar screenshot on the forum, here. I asked for their customisation number, but they haven't replied yet.
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
I don't have root. ;) I just always want latest software and apps and I like to share them so I'm here. ;)

I also got SmartBand yesterday and it requires Android 4.4.2 :/

But it really looks like spain or something like that.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I'm on Spanish firmware. No OTA notification for me. ;)
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
Ok. ;) Hopefully they share customization number!! :crying::crying::crying:
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Me too. I don't know why they wouldn't just tell us which firmware version they're running when posting something like that.
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
Maybe they're from Sony and wanna generate excitement :laugh:
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Or they faked it and they're trolling.... We'll see, if they respond. :D
[Xperia Z General] gork1975:
This is for my ZL C6503

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Edit: No Update for me. PC Companion did "update" and now i am on 10.4.1.B.0.101 same like before, but without root now . Sh.t happens.
[Xperia Z General] Ben Ling:
try this
[Xperia Z General] Robi959:
For OTA update do i need to be on completely stock firmware or ? Mine is rooted and locked bootloader on 4.3
[Xperia Z General] Mackay53:
Stock locked bootloader
[Xperia Z General] kamalmawa:
I tried no update through either OTA or PC companion. Isn't OTA updates sent through carrier in order to avoid mobile data usage? so changing customization really doesn't help with OTA updates ?