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[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DutchDogg54:
Both of you have a point...Perseus is simply trying to keep the conversation on the subject of the thread, which is the right thing to do. This is a thread to discuss the Galaxy SIII & the impending (hopefully) KK release, NOT any other device or android version. He's also looking to protect the developers on this device; also the right thing to do. But I do believe the "Please dont insult the devs..." comment wasn't necessary as Yahanna didn't really insult any developers.

Yahanna did say something that could be construed as insulting to the SIII devs, but upon reading up on the last few pages, the context is clear he didn't mean to dis the devs, he's just upset that KK hasn't come around for this device yet...heck, I would be too. Your tone definitely takes a turn for the worse in your last post, though, Yahanna - please keep your temper under control and remember that all caps is yelling & reporting a post isn't an idle threat to throw around. If you feel a post is worthy of reporting, click the button and let one of us handle it - don't act as though it's your job to control the thread. Thank you.

For now, let's keep this thread on the topic at hand, KK & the T-Mobile GSIII. Other topics are welcome to be discussed in other threads either in the Q&A or General threads.

Thanks all.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
How many more nonths do you think the S3 will still be relevant? Personally I think it will start to become a dinosaur by this fall.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
From a RAM standpoint, it is currently highly relevant (see GS5's RAM quantity). From a performance standpoint, still relevant since it still flies. So, no, can't count the GS3 out yet. It still has potential (see incoming Android L later this year - and I obviously don't mean official firmwares).
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Other than certain high performance games that are relatively new, there's really not much that you can't do with the S3. I can't think of a single thing I've tried that it couldn't run, and it runs all of it quite well.

The S3 is only obsolete to those who "feel" like they're being left behind, or who simply will never be happy unless they have the newest toy on their block.

It may not be the best of the best anymore, but by no means does that mean it has reached its eol.

IMO, anyway.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
I am going to agree on this one. S3's AnTuTu Scores have been not too shabby.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] daggorlad:
I still love my S3, but I am a bit of a technophile. So I always want the latest and greatest... But I have to practice self control sometimes... Which is pretty easy when you can't budget in a new device every time!:( I definitely want to upgrade to Note 4 when it is released... but I will still hold on to my S3 for play... or possibly donate it.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Do you believe that the devs will make a custom L rom for the S3?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
*points to the unified D2LTE builds* What makes you think CM and the other AOSP teams won't make the jump?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Well I hope the devs do make one for the S3. If they do, that will prolong the life of the S3. Do you know around when the L will be released?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
My guess is as good as yours. That depends on Google. Could be between October and November. You can't expect stable L builds from the get-go either. That will take months.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
Yes I have toyed with L. But must wait for complete code release before I can make a Alpha build. As it stands, CM is dealing with troubles of separating devices that should not have been unified.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
I don't use CM, but I had been curious about that. I could see combining the T999 and I747 variants, but not all of them. CDMA and GSM builds are just too different and I always thought making a single build for them all sounded like a buggy idea at best!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
Surprise! We have been making a combined Build with a unified Kernel for the last 7 stable Releases and countless weeklies! All variants included even T999L, M and all.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
Wondering how they didn't see that one coming. I can only hope it doesn't mean a discontinuation of the D2.

Mobile message from a SGH-T999
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
What do you mean ?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
Hoping that doesn't make them decide to drop all D2 support. That's what I meant.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
Ha! That'd be the day! Samsung has gone out of its way to make life difficult for CM. No chance they'd change their mind.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] lazyn00b:
The S3 is NOT irrelevant

I don't know why people are calling this phone "irrelevant" when major retailers like Walmart are selling brand new ones right now.. including T-Mobile branded models! If I bought this phone today, I would expect timely updates to be delivered just as if it was an S5.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] smartdroid:
Anyone know a way to install the old Google maps (6.14) on a KitKat ROM?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Maybe you need older libs copued into /system/lib? Hard to say w/o more information.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] smartdroid:
What other info do you need?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
How about a description of what it does when you try to install it. How are you installing it? What have you done to troubleshoot it so far? Have you tried other versions? Anything relevant....your post only implies that there is a problem.

Its kind of like saying, "why isnt my car working?"

It could be a million different things and without specific details, theres not much anyone could do to help.

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Oh, and considering that this is more a question about an app, you should probably post a thread in Q&A.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] smartdroid:
Ok will do thanks.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] SovPanda:
S3 neo got kitkat, think they are still working on bringing kitkat to the remaining s3? (not international)
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
ain't that some BS lol. That phone was release earlier this year, so technically samsung has to provide upgrades for it for 2 years. Could they still be working on ours since the other US carriers got their update? how can they leave us forgotten? Somethings we will never understarnd
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] JurkyZg:
update to last kitkat

Hy to everyone. I have Samsung galaxy s3 and i one update to kitkat. My software is 4.1.2 Jelly bean and i root it.

Build number is : I9300XXELLA

so witch version of kitkat is the best to my version of galaxy s3?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Sleeps17:
Your build number is JZO54K.I9300XXELLA, correct? You seem to have an international Galaxy S3. You're in the wrong forum, I don't advise flashing anything onto your device from this forum.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
So since TMO is already pushing kitkat for the S4, S5 and Note 3; could we be next in line?? I'm still not losing hope :good::D
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] ergibson83:
There's no activity in the S3 section anymore. Sad times for an awesome phone.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] someonenewhere:
We're not getting an update... ?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Yes unfortunately. The S3 is slowly being put to rest. This is especially so with the advent of the Note 4. The S3 was the best and strongest phone I've had in my life. I can still see myself holding on to it for the next 2 years without regrets.

I dont see the need to upgade to another phone. I'll just keep using it for as long as possible.

Unfortunately we're not. But we still got the option to install custom kitkat.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] someonenewhere:
That's what I did.. But I'm about to upgrade in the next two weeks.. I'll just use my Galaxy for paperweight
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
I'm also using a kitkat ported rom, and they are running great. However nothing beats the real thing.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Well, when I'm wrong, I'm wrong! I do still believe there's a possibility it could get released, but at this point the chances are probably slim at best. I do still believe the information I got a while back was good though, I just don't get why T-Mobile never released it. Especially considering the T999L and T999N are only a year old.

But, it does look like I was wrong about them actually releasing it, so, sorry about that...

I do agree that we have some very good ports to choose from though, so its not so much a big deal to me anymore. Would be nice to have the WiFi calling option, but I rarely used it anyway.

Oh, and there is some potential good news! AT&T finally released their kernel source! So if anyone makes new custom kernels based on it, we may be able to take advantage of that! We will just have to wait and see though.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Whick kitkat port are you using btw? And have you experienced any problems with it?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
I have been in the process of updating KT747 AOSP version. If I can get that right, I will be happy to take a crack at the TW version as well.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
I know many would appreciate the effort! And many already do! Woulda mentioned that it was you I was talking about but didn't want to be the cause of ETA spam w/o your permission!

If I can help along the way, just let me know!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] SovPanda:
would that mean wifi calling possibility like we had with 4.3?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] serio22:
Nope..
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
Ive been running Likewise Galaxy S5 and its been running strong and super smooth

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Excuse my noobness but how does the KT kernel limit you guys when using it on TW roms? is KT kernel harder to make it work on TW? Are the benefits of the ATT kernel more under the hood improvements and would you guys use to improve the KK roms that we have (which have been running great)? I'm just curious of how crucial the release of the ATT kernel is for us here, thanks :good:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Its not that its limiting really, but kt747 for TW 4.4.2 is currently built from Sprints kernel source. From what I'm told Sprint is known for not having the greatest stock kernels. But more importantly, by using the AT&T source, it should increase overall stability and probably performance and battery life too. The I747 and T999 are very closely related in terms if hardware, and both are GSM. Sprint has different hardware and is a CDMA device. So I'd also expect some possible improvement in our network capabilities.

So yes, I believe it would only improve upon what we already have! There are also some people who for some reason cannot use the kt747 kernel. Hopefully this would allow them to use it as well.

As for how hard it'll be to make....I've no idea. I'm no kernel dev! But considering the intricacies and features ktoonsez incorporates, I certainly don't think it will be an easy task!

Its not at all crucial to us to have it though. Everything is working surprisingly well on the current one. But it could be better! Plus, as of right now, we only have one kernel choice if we want to run TW KK. I am all for having some options introduced.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Hows the battery life compared to that of a factory stock rom?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
It's great, go ahead and give a shot. Doc also has his own rom s3rx 4.0 which should good as well. If you dont like the ports we have, you can always go back by doing a back up.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Is there an s3rx 4.0 rom version for tmobile USA? If so, can you please post the link?

Btw, how many hours a day do you get from the Likewise rom? Thanks!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] mp3deviant721:
Is this what you are looking for?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2860797

GS³: Carbonized, leanKernel'd, Philz'd

Gimme Chocolate!!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Hey I appreciate the link. I looked at it and it looks like the rom has issues. So I think I'll be installing the Likewise rom.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Its actually got very few problems. The ones listed in op are very very minor. (May i ask whats turned you off from it?)

More importantly though, a newer version is posted on the last page or two. I just haven't been able to properly update the op. (Post 46 I think). I've been running it since before release and its been pretty solid so far.

Hopefully sometime early this week I'll get the op updated and release a secondary build. Also a new version of Likewise is in the works and should be ready to port very soon!
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] PunishedSnake:
Even though the AT&T and Sprint versions got kit Kat we won't?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
Everyone's been updated afaik. Only T-Mobile hasn't. Its not looking good for it either.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] PunishedSnake:
Why do you think that

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Maybe they are waiting for the gs4 first which was just done
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Hi Doc! Very good to hear fron you again! To answer your question, I think the rom is so cool except that NFC and battery notifications dont work. Not to sound arrogant since I'm not, but I dont want to experience any issues with such a cool rom. I know roms perfect. But you said a newer version is available? I'll check it out.

I cant wait for the new version of Likewise to come out. I plan to use Xposed mods on it.

Thanks for your concerns, Doc. Youre the best.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
I should have the new Likewise and S3rx versions ported sometime today as long as nothing comes up! And don't worry, I didn't take your post as arrogant, I just wanted to make sure you didn't see something I missed and that you knew if the 2nd version.

Enewman17 may have his next build out today, and I'll get it ported and posted asap. Talkingmonkeys i believe has taken over the lead on Likewise and I've got the new build now. Just have to port it. Look for a new Likewise thread for this one though since lemonboi and saranhai are no longer working on it.

I'm not promising they will be ready today, but I think I can get them done if nothing pulls me away.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] NGOwner:
Same here. And with TMo's new push with WiFi, you'd think that TMo would have some motivation to get the KK build out to us. Maybe that's what they were waiting for ... the handoff code to go from WiFi to Tower and back ...

Wishful thinking ....

[NG]Owner
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
The S3 is dead to Tmo. They'll never release KK to us. Its very sad.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] :
Sadly, I think you're right. It appears that any new updates for the S3 are for the LTE version and not for the T999.

Thankfully we have a number of great developers on this site that will keep our phone alive.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
Not wishful. Very Strong Possibility. There are changes to Kitkat Kernel over 4.3

Yes they indeed are. There's talk about Android L being brought to Galaxy S3. So this thread will become moot in that sense.

Continued this kind of Unsubstantiated claims will see this thread closed. Please do not make statements that are not backed by published facts.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Not backed by published facts?? Its been more than half a year now and tmo hasnt released it. Samsung already released 4.4.4. How much more proof do you want? Are you joking?
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DigitalUnderground:
You have no authority to have any thread shut down. Stop pretending to be a moderator... There are thousands of unsubstantiated claims and rumors in xda, and the threads are left open. As long as no one is being disrespectful or illegal, then this thread will not be closed.

I'd love to see the published facts given by credible and reputable sources showing that the S3 will get Android L. Lol. The same device that hasn't received KK is to receive L? Lol ok. Your whole post is moot. This thread was moot from the day it was posted... OP has a very hit or miss history of being accurate.

Tbh... I wouldn't take your advice either...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=55890348

Sent from my Nexus 5 running Android L
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] yahanna:
Dont threaten anyone here. You dont have any authority since youre not a mod.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] Perseus:
I am not threatening or pretending to be mod. Thrice before MODs have posted on this thread with a warning. In #143 and in #162 and in #249

I am just cautioning about that warning.

Thread Unsubscribed.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] garwynn:
I don't take a liking to folks who would so quickly bash a well known RC on XDA.

He did not directly threaten action so I think there are some words being put in others' virtual mouth here.

So now you're going to hear it from a moderator - knock it off. Now.

I will close a thread if it is unsubstantiated and looks like the thread is going south - which covers most.

The recent posts from senior members clearly suggests this may be the route some would like to take this thread.

So your choice folks - keep on topic of KK information or move along please.

If there are any questions please contact me by PM. I will not respond in thread and will remove responses to me in thread regarding to this issue.

Thank you.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] SovPanda:
Don't know if true or not but was posted on the tmobile s3 forum

Dear Mr. xxxx:

T-Mobile USA, Inc. ("T-Mobile") is in receipt your email dated October 14, 2014, that you submitted concerning the above referenced account.

T-Mobile regrets any inconvenience that you have experienced in regards to a KitKat 4.4.4 update for your T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy S3 handset.* It is important to note that the releases of operating system updates are at the discretion of the manufacturer.* Handset manufacturers go through extensive testing to ensure that all components of the software enhancements included in the update are compatible with the hardware of the device.* After approval by the manufacturer, it is released by T-Mobile.

Please be advised that T-Mobile works very closely with the manufactures and are always looking at ways to improve our customer’s experiences.**Based on the manufactures recommendations, T-Mobile has made the determination not to update the T-Mobile*Samsung Galaxy S3*software any further due to the T-Mobile*Samsung Galaxy S3 having a dual core processor not the quad core processor it would need to function properly on the KitKat 4.4.4 OS.* We regret any inconvenience this may have caused.

Thank you for bringing this matter to our attention.* If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to contact me at*877-290-6323 extension 341

Very truly yours,

T-MOBILE USA, INC.

Carla Steele

Executive Response

Office of the President/CEO

Desk:*877-290-6323 ext. 341

"
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] calexchelse:
Not saying I believe her or not. And that may very well be Tmobile official stance on the subject. However, sounds like a person who does not know technology is answering their emails. Tmobile needs to find people to answer their emails that won't insult our intelligence.

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And if I was the person that got that email response, I would quickly respond asking them to explain why every other carrier that has an s3, which are all dual core get updated.

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That response just irks me at my core. Both cores.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
</thread> Kinda surprised this thread is still open. What's left to discuss (if anything) should be left to the respective TouchWiz KitKat ports and AOSP threads, in my opinion. This thread shall continue to be the go-to thread to vent frustrations regarding the 'update'...until AOSP Lollipop appears for us. CM11 M11 is excellent, along with the S3rx 4.4.2 port (except the GPS part taking long to wake up). I suggest either of those to end the "wait".
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] DocHoliday77:
I would definitely file this under the "canned response" category. It has absolutely zero to do with our processor, as stated in the post above. But their explanation of how the process of approving updates is pretty much all wrong.

They are just trying to place the blame on Samsung is what I'm taking away from that. Probably they are tired of all the questions and complaints and figured it's an easy way out....if I had to guess.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] SovPanda:
That has been suggested alot already but the issue for me anyways was keeping wifi calling, cm11 is great and all but wifi calling is feature I need right now and probably others to. For the email I think it might be a good time for others to try to send a response since it does seem they are tired of messages and actually responding some what properly
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
They will only tell you 4.3 is for you. Believe me, I've even tried sending them a message through several channels, including FB, only to receive another canned response:

And then I received another one where they said they only provide updates if they determine it will bring improvements, but then they deleted their and my post (cannot find it through an Activity Log search). So yes, if you want Wi-Fi Calling, keep 4.3 or earlier in hand. This reminds me of this recent post of mine.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] TheLastSidekick:
Lollipop is awesome guys. When you guys get it on AOSP I'd recommend you go to it post haste. If you're going to need WiFi calling just try using Google Voice Number and Google Dialer on WiFi.
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] nirogu325:
We should be very thankful for AT&T. Two days ago they released yet another KitKat update for their S3. This should keep the ports healthy and going. T-mobile? *crickets*
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
Hey Sidekick, would you be putting an AOSP rom together for us? Thanks in advance :D
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] TheLastSidekick:
There's a slight issue. I no longer own the device...and even if I did my machine isn't up to the task unfortunately. If I met the criteria, I wouldn't mind. Right now I'm doing kangs because I can at least verify the base works.

Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
Yeah, I know your story with the S3 and how you moved to a nexus. But since I read a post in which you declared your love to our side of the community, I thought you had landed or might gotten an old S3 to mess around with hehehe. We have very few devs now, you and Doc were the most active if not the most active we had. Good thing Doc is still around a bit :good:
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] TheLastSidekick:
Yes I loved my S3 but money was tight and the Nexus 5 was a cheap and solid device. Keep in mind I'm currently unemployed and can't find work. ;)

Sent from my Nexus 5 on Lollipop 5.0
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] revwillie:
LOL. Who has two hands and looks first to see which devs are making Roms before buying a new device?

....this guy

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I'm thinking about this. Anyone try porting their tmo number to google voice and making the VoIP work thru hangouts?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2922629
[T-Mobile, Samsung Galaxy SIII] allendj81:
I'm on the same boat, unemployed and can't find work in my field