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[Xperia Z General] Incanity:
I don't mind waiting for the 4.4 update, in my opinion, Sony does great work supporting the Z. I just hope that the 4.4 update will speed up the camera startup, It's been made faster since the 4.1 firmware, but it still takes 4-5 seconds to startup, which caused me to lose a good picture opportunity more than once :p
[Xperia Z General] kael2404:
I hope that our camera will be improved and will take photos like Galaxy S4
[Xperia Z General] wawaweewa:
I think you chose the wrong phone lol

I wish double tap to wake will be implemented
[Xperia Z General] kael2404:
Not wrong phone but this camera should take much better photos and anyone know about this.
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
Yes, they use the same Sony exmor RS 13mp.

But sony's superior auto sucks.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Superior auto is limited to 9MP for a start, but it doesn't really work as advertised. The photos from it aren't very good unless you're outside in good natural light.

I started using manual mode after seeing others here producing good photos with it and I can usually achieve good results.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Does the gs4 auto mode shoot at the full 13mp? I think if Sony improves the algorithms we will see very similar results to the s4
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I don't know, as I haven't used an S4.

If it shoots in 16:9, then it will probably be 9MP. The 13MP sensor in our device and the S4 captures at 4:3. Any 16:9 images taken from it are just crops and therefore not the maximum resolution.

Anyway, I agree that the software could be improved. My ancient K800i takes great pictures and Sony have a good pedigree with cameras, so I'm sure they can do better.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
same here, i was sort of disappointed my Z didnt take significantly better photos than my incredible S :/
[Xperia Z General] root82:
I hope it won't. Compared my pictures in manual mode to an S4 yesterday night with lights on a river. XZ produced much better pictures. With general knowledge about photography the camera is not so bad. However that will be too complicated for many users.

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[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
yeah true. I think thats why sony implemented the superior auto mode, to cater for those like me who don't know how to take photos.

but even just fidelling around with the manual settings for 2 minutes produced better pictures than auto mode
[Xperia Z General] kamalmawa:
Earlier firmwares of XZ were able to shoot both 9mp & 13mp in Superior Auto mode. It was restricted to 9mp later don't know why :-S
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
TBH, every since the k750i I haven't felt like camera quality really improved.

I mean, yes it did.. but with every new phone the difference is so small you don't really notice it.

I mean it's been 9 (!!) years since the k750i.....
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
LOL!! I strongly agree with you!! K750i.... what a great phone! Sony Ericsson did a contest back then and I won with a photo of gulls :p

Anyway... still not any news about 4.4 they must be working really hard on this! :silly:
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
I could have sworn that when i got the phone on original release firmware, i was a bit bugged on why i couldnt shoot at 13MP superior auto.

then i looked up some reviews and they said it was normal :S
[Xperia Z General] fatis:
I agree with that but still make 3-5 and choose the best. So could you tell me how you set your camera to make good photo. How you set light meter and focus. Imo iso must be set lower as can. I ask about make foto indoor and night.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
here are the settings that i just completely pulled out of nowhere, but they work alright for me at least.

I have exposure set to 1 notch under +1

Scene set to Off, if you set a scene, then the other settings like ISO and exposure become preset.

ISO set to 200

Metering set to Centre

No idea what all this means, but i like it haha
[Xperia Z General] fatis:
so your setting is very similar to main. When light is good I set iso to 100. When you use landscape preset then camera set iso very low - 60,40. Thats good because you cant set that low iso. But landscape is only preset which I use.

I set focus the same but never change exposure, maybe i'll try.
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Please, if you want to discuss about camera settings, or S4 camera vs Z camera, or something similar. Open another thread, or post in an existing one.

I come to this thread to see if there is any news about Kit Kat update, an it is very annoying to read more than a full page of offtopic messages.
[Xperia Z General] X96:
Yes, exactly!
[Xperia Z General] fatis:
ok, you're right,
[Xperia Z General] wright_ac:
Could the 14.1.XXXXXXX be something to do with unifying the KitKat build numbers? Obviously it may be an error but it just crossed my mind looking at the speculation towards other Sony 4.4 Firmware builds.
[Xperia Z General] Don MC:
I was thinking the same thing.
[Xperia Z General] Aka91:
+1

:)

Same thing crossed my mind this morning!
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
it's not like your post is related either, you're just contributing to the amount of off topic posts >_>
[Xperia Z General] snapdragons4pro:
maybe kitkat is our last major updates, after that i really don't expect anything. Sony you better give us a proper updates, not a kitkat with FULL OF BUGS. seems like May or June is where we're going to get the updates, don't expect it to come early guys :D hope sony don't mess up with the kitkat updates for Z, just like the xperia S -____- :(
[Xperia Z General] OverTheEdge:
I just hope we can get atleast 1 bug fixing update once we get our Kitkat.
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
i dont think they messed up the recent devices updates like xperia s .. like lesson learnt for them :p
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Now we are on middle of the march.. And no sign of 4.4... ????

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] RyomaEchizen:
http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/18/new-xperia-z-ultra-kitkat-firmware-build-spotted-14-3-a-0-747/
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
remember, if you never expect anything, you will never be disappointed! :D
[Xperia Z General] alexchris:
Unfortunatelly after Sony provided us many updates that workes flawless now it;s time they act just like Samsung and release updates full of bugs. I am very disapointed of the last 4.3 updates that came on the Z. It is full of bugs, wifi works like crap, lag in answering call, sometimes it just frozez, when you answer a phone call the speaker activates by it self and many more that i don;t remember. For that reason i am thinking if I will go on with Sony or not. I was prepared to order a Z2 but after the misery of 4.3 on Z i think i will cancel the order because i need a phone a i can use not a device that works when it want's to and it's realy a shame. On 4.2 i never restarted my phone. I remember i had aprox 3 or 4 month and the phone never seen a restart because it worked flawlessly. Shame Sony....
[Xperia Z General] YourManAdrian:
I wouldn't really care for how long I had to wait for the 4.4 update if the battery life on 4.3 wasn't so horrible. With my old ZL (basically the exact same phone) I would easily get 4 hours of on screen time. With my Z, I struggle to get 3 hours :( I just hope some update comes soon. Whether it's 4.4 or just some bug fix, I just want it to improve the battery life.
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
none of the bugs u mentioned are common . i havent faced laggy answering call or bad wifi .

.. u should do a clean install

either way all the manufacturers have issues ..be it sony samsung or htc ... they have their fare share of problems .. the purple/pink tint camera bug on htc one by far is the most horrible ..
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
Battery life on 4.3 .101 is the best since I have had my z. On stock kernel and stock .101 I can get 4 1/2 to 4 3/4 hours of screen on time and sometimes close to 5 hours .

I never experienced any of the bugs you mentioned in the latest firmware.
[Xperia Z General] FrankJHTC:
+1..

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[Xperia Z General] Kamy-R:
Bad news...

http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/03/1...eria-z1-xperia-z-ultra-and-xperia-z1-compact/
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
I did a CLEAN install when i updated to the first 4.3, and updated keeping user data to the second 4.3 update when it came out, and i am not experiencing any of the bugs you are reporting. Wifi works perfectly for me, no lags when answering calls (it sounds to me that you have the phone very, very cluttered), no freezes, never, ever. The loudspeaker activating by itself when answering calls is a known bug of Chrome browser affecting many brands, try to disable it and install Chrome Beta from Play Store where the bug is fixed, or directly get rid of Chrome and use AOSP Browser if you have root, or any other browser.

When updating to a new Android version it is always a good idea to clear user data and start all over again with a clean phone.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Well, at least they gave an estimated date.

Unfortunately, this thread is now destined to be full of whiners shouting that Sony is the worst company ever, because they have to wait a bit longer for an update. :D
[Xperia Z General] CiscoX:
Good news i believe :)

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03...eria-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I think so, yes. :)
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Well, they say no Z2 new features are present in 4.4 for the Z1, so we know what to expect for the Z. I think we were lucky enough when we got all Z1 features
[Xperia Z General] jigodiass:
So...this is it, may or june.

"Android 4.4 KitKat is already in development for the Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z and it will become available for those devices in May or June this year."

http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_android_44_kitkat_update_schedule-news-8075.php
[Xperia Z General] MK77:
May or June is ok, Z1 (compact) User are the Kitkat Beta Tester...;)

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[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Old News May Be...

http://www.xda-developers.com/andro...ompact-xperia-z-zl-zr-and-tablet-z-in-mid-q2/
[Xperia Z General] LisekDH:
Info from sony blog about 2h ago:

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/03/19/new-sony-software-upgrade-including-android-4-4-kitkat-rolls-for-xperia-z-ultra-xperia-z1-and-xperia-z1-compact/

Im really happy :D
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Wow guys. This is like 6 times the same news has been posted in 2 pages!

Read before posting! :D

Edit - OK, it's only 5 times!
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
Seriously? Two months of waiting at least? Pfff I want a beta now!!!
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
this is late . first news i heard about 4.4 is around february and march . And now its may and june . later maybe sony delayed it like 4.3 and updates may came in october or december..

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[Xperia Z General] samxool:
it will be longer than june.

when sony give a date, bung a couple of months onto the date to give you when you will get it in reality.

plus sony hates the uk and makes us wait until dead last before giving us the updates (as per all other updates), so bung another month or so onto that. so expect kitkat around september october.

sony have sold us out.
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
it's true . But luckily im not in UK..

my first though is we could get the update same with the others Z series like Z1, ZU and else..

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[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Sony have never publicly announced a release date for 4.4 until today, so therefore it's impossible that there's been a delay.
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Ha.... ha... "a bit longer"
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Haha. OK then "longer".

It would be nice to get updates very, very quickly, but that doesn't happen.

It's not as if they cancelled the update or the current software is broken in some way, anyway.

Edit - I've edited some of my posts as my intention in being a member of this site is to learn and be helpful if I can. I've realised some of my posts have been a bit rude recently, so apologies to anyone offended. :)
[Xperia Z General] Richy99:
how have they? please, I'd love to hear the rationale behind this
[Xperia Z General] rajaganesan7:
Sad news for sony xperia z , zl ,zr users

Sony announces Android 4.4 KitKat update schedule

Big news, Sony fans! Sony has just announced the availability of the Android 4.4 KitKat update for the Xperia Z Ultra, Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1 Compact. The new firmware rollout starts right now for all three smartphones, but the process is gradual so it might take some time before the update notification pops up on your phone.

Here is the official change log:

Google’s Android 4.4; KitKat as standard – bringing performance & UI optimisation… We’ve added our tweaked Status Bar and Quick Settings… now more intuitive and customisable (and pretty easy on the eye)… cleaned up to ensure you only get the notifications you really need

If you’ve got a Sony PlayStation 4, you might recognize our new user interface – we’ve added the same sleek launch animation and livewallpaper across the lock and home screens

We’re also uplifting Sony’s entire native app portfolio to the latest versions – bringing tweaked / improved / current experiences for (to name but a few): Messaging, MyXperia, Smart Connect, Small apps, TrackID, TrackID TV, Sony Select, Smart Social Camera and…

Sony’s Media apps: WALKMAN, Album and Movies, with Sony Entertainment Network cloud service integration – a more converged and full Sony entertainment experience – Sony Entertainment Network & PlayMemories integration with a more intuitive UI, better download speeds, and more!

Our unique custom interface experience: “Xperia Themes”, with downloadable UI packs from Sony Select – skin up to 280 assets across your Xperia smartphone with a variety of styles, and more to follow soon…

But wait, there is more good news! Android 4.4 KitKat is already in development for the Xperia Z, Xperia ZL, Xperia ZR and Xperia Tablet Z and it will become available for those devices in May or June this year.

Sony has also confirmed that the newly announced Xperia T2 Ultra, Xperia E1 and Xperia M2 will get the KitKat treatment as well, but the availability will be detailed later.:rolleyes:

SOURCE : http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_announces_android_44_kitkat_update_schedule-news-8075.php
[Xperia Z General] samxool:
WHAT? SOny promised us q1 for kitkat.

it has not happened.

therefore the update is delayed.

i fail to see how this is not a delay.

they are quoted as saying q1. now we're being told q2, and even then, based on their previous updates, i expect to see it q3.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Please link me to where Sony officially stated Q1. Genuine request, as I missed it if they did and I cannot find it on their blog. Thanks in advance. :)
[Xperia Z General] joeyxl:
if that Walkman update fixes the volume issue i am so disappointed with on every headphones ive used, i can wait. Please sony, bring the volume up on our phones!
[Xperia Z General] vip_47:
Z1 C6903 Update 4.4 . Cust No 1276-7116
[Xperia Z General] vip_47:
Z Ultra update
[Xperia Z General] CiscoX:
Nice to know :)

Q1 - January, February, and March

Q2 - April, May, and June

Q3 - July, August, and September

Q4 - October, November, December
[Xperia Z General] -iNCEPTiON-:
Gr8 news but really disappointed that Xperia Z will be getting the update in May or June ... I think i should root my phone and use a custom firmware
[Xperia Z General] shprakash:
Tats the only way to do it for time begin:)
[Xperia Z General] nemer12:
JUNE are u f...kiddding me?
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Exactly. This gets asked a lot when people complain about updates and nobody seems to want to answer. Maybe because they don't know themselves apart from wanting to see a higher version number.
[Xperia Z General] SXZdabbler:
I'd rather wait for a bugfree update than a rushed and buggy one.
[Xperia Z General] fofo00o:
4.4

i think we well get gamma control in 4.4

http://youtu.be/q6Yerp9OzlQ?t=4m26s

XPERIA Z Compact official KitKat
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
**** i just deleted all my kernel files i built during the past month :(

Oh well let's hope they will iron out most bugs and other issues and bring dt2w, this would be worth some extra waiting.

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[Xperia Z General] OsiBasi:
Thank god they didn't release it this month 4.3 got here like 2 months or so. And spent 2 weeks settling, restoring all my apps etc. I wouldn't want to do that again.
[Xperia Z General] ber-59:
4.4 retarded in order to sell new sony devices the money before any : cry:
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
I hate this guy so much.... The titel is always english be then he speaks czech...
[Xperia Z General] noob to xda:
On the one hand it is specifically said that tap to wake will not be included in the 4.4 update for the Z, on the other hand the latest information is "we’re also uplifting Sony’s entire native app portfolio to the latest versions", hope that includes the tap to wake.
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
I don't think it will be included, but let's just wait
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
I don't think that native apps pertains to kernel related features such as tap to wake.

We'll have to see though, as Sony aren't adverse to giving us features from new devices. ;)
[Xperia Z General] Tommy-Geenexus:
They could easily give us dt2w.

The evgen method is written by Sony and works quite good, so they really could implement it.

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[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Agreed. Was just saying that updating native apps doesn't mean they're going to include it. :)
[Xperia Z General] alkesh95:
I think i come here to read just your post ? really its true. I will wait for 4.4 for zl its better. To beate then never.

Keep your constructive criticism going

Globally recognized N00B
[Xperia Z General] NetSkill:
Vyvážení bíle barvy= White balance

I understand czech language, and this is definately not gamma control

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[Xperia Z General] joeyxl:
Like i menioned. 2 things i only care about in 4.4 is HCE, and the possibilty of better volume for headphone/ bluetooth output. I just cant belive my sony bluetooth headphones are louder than my wired high end sony headphones. This is the first phone that has had volume issues
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
oh well, we always have xda!
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
Since we are not getting z2 apps like z1 , why not just download the ported z2 launcher,system ui and apps and change your android version to 4.4 in build.prop . You can feel better while waiting for official that way. Haha
[Xperia Z General] YourManAdrian:
I know this is the KitKat thread, and we now know pretty much when we're gonna get it. But what was that firmware certified for the Xperia Z like a week ago? Just a possible bug fix update?
[Xperia Z General] pjgowtham:
Someone please leak the test 4.4 ftf for Xperia z. Atleast lets enjoy with a leaked one If isnt official!
[Xperia Z General] Killer_2T:
Thanks :good: iamkani
[Xperia Z General] macshanemike:
Update

Alot of people complain that we are going to see the update may maybe june and even some seem to think even later this year. All of this is speculation and not definite comfirmation. Considering sony have released the update already for most of the z range, I reckon we will see the update in the next couple of weeks. It seems pointless releasing 4.4 for most of the z range to miss out 1 phone. And stop complaning that they are not pushing the update as I would rather wait and extra couple of weeks for a relatively bug free update that improves performance then a bugged one that causes lots of issues. All I can say is be patient and then you will get what you want.
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Well, after reading Z1 update thread we can conclude:

- ART virtual machine has NOT been implemented (the most important feature of Kit Kat)

- No features from Z2 (ok, nobody promised they will come to older devices)

- Some cosmetic and design changes are... questionable.

- New bugs have been found. (and some others have been fixed)

- Overall system speed looks about the same, some say it is slightly better (but we know there is some psychological factor into it)

I am not eager anymore to get the 4.4 update, the XZ works very good with the latest 4.3, in fact many more users than with any previous update are regretting having updated to 4.4.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Agreed... I wonder what will be new in 4.4?

For 4.3... at least we got new apps and stuff from Z1.. But apart from Sony's changes, I don't notice any real differences.

When we go 4.3>4.4 but without major Sony changes (except maybe the quick settings..which I'm not sure I would prefer), why is everyone so hyped for this?

My ZL has been working fine on 4.3... and 4.2 or 4.1 for that matter.
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Removing/not including ART seems like a strange decision. That was possibly the only major change in 4.4 that I was interested in. Even though a lot of apps don't play nicely with it yet they could have left it in, as the average user wouldn't know about it or how to activate it.
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
That's it, we get the new "quick settings", which i considered as one of those "questionable" design choices (in fact i consider this one more like a sh*t design choice), "Immersive mode" which is app dependant, and less than 10% apps support it, the possibility to re-arrange icons in social camera app ¬_¬U, and some other non important changes in sony apps, which can be updated independantly from the firmware.

Now we have a very stable FW, with proper "quick settings" (or at least one that does not looks like it was made for blind people, or 1 year old children), Xposed framework support + GravityBox which adds "immersive mode" system wide and compatible with ALL apps, and many more things. Well we cannot re-arrange social camera app icons, but i think, maybe, i would be able to live without that :p

4.2.1 was ok, 4.2.2 was better, and 4.3 was much better. This time i am not sure updating to 4.4 will be any better or worthy of the hassle of wiping the phone when updating, as i do everytime i update to a new Android version. I will update, maybe simply tu satisfy the need we all have to have the latest version of everything, but only for that reason and it won't be just when the update comes out, i will wait for Xposed to be updated, and other tweaks i would miss if i were in 4.4 right now. The not inclusion of the ART VM, removed any real value of having 4.4 installed .
[Xperia Z General] boyob32:
According to here....

http://www.androidauthority.com/kitkat-update-xperia-z1-359494/

Still a couple of months away....

Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
That's old news. Sony also said mid q2. So just be patient
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
ART is known to be in an experimental stage right now, so maybe that is the reason.

My nexus 7 2012 on 4.4 also doesn't have ART.

Although it appears that Samsung have chosen to include ART into the s5

Source: http://www.androidbeat.com/2014/03/samsung-galaxy-s5-screenshot-support-android-runtime-art/
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Yeah, but it's in the Developer Options section, right? That is hidden by default since 4.2, so anyone activating ART would or should understand what it is and the implications.

Perhaps it doesn't play nice with Sony's framework modifications for the theme engine or some of their native apps. Who knows? I doubt they will tell us either.

Like I said, I know ART isn't fully ready yet and doesn't play nice with a lot of apps right now, but it's just something to tinker with and check out potential performance improvements. I'm not interested in it for any other reason at the moment. :D
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Hope 4.4 will hits Xperia Z within this March ????

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
i hope so too haha

but there are many rumours saying it will be in mid Q2 2014