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[Xperia Z General] Moscow Desire:
A little minor thread cleaning.

Folks, Please keep things on topic. OK?

Amsterdam and "joint smoking", really isn't relevant to the topic.

Oh, wait, I'm going there in a month :eek::good::D

On Topic....

MD
[Xperia Z General] syahazu:
hope the system alongside the hardware processing are more precise and battery usage more friendly.... hope the best from Sony :)
[Xperia Z General] indycar:
i think we ll be getting it with the z2 launch not before and that will be june/july
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Xperia Z developers waiting to share new modified things to oir XZ.. But we have to wait till XZ2 release ?? new roms apps themes and more will come oit soon with 4.4 new update... Guys we lucky ????✌✌

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] demonicangell™:
where u read this
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2013/11/07/on-jelly-bean-4-3-kit-kat-4-4/

From my Xperia Z monster ???
[Xperia Z General] RaZieLRaH:
Looking at THIS kitkat for Xperia Z will probably come in may.
[Xperia Z General] Chac:
Well this is only suppositions. The French carrier for example says Android 4.3 will be available for Xperia SP in March and Android 4.3 is available since January 9 in a leaked ROM...
[Xperia Z General] beni8978:
I think we will get a ftf before all. Like with 4.3 ?
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
Yay b#tches!!!! :laugh: :victory:
[Xperia Z General] dzieciol:
Nice :) can't wait
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
Can't wait for some leaked ftf..... right Doomlord???? :P
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
lol wasn't it "leaked" somewhere that the z1 would be getting kitkat in february 2014?

well. gg
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Whatt??????????????????
[Xperia Z General] Vandermonde:
I don't get your point mate!
[Xperia Z General] ngeen88:
Thx

Thank you bro
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
Somebody shoot the trolls please! I'm waiting to finally see some serious posts in here!!!
[Xperia Z General] Moesappel:
Dont forget this [MENTION=5361973]iamkani[/MENTION]

Verstuurd vanaf mijn Sony Xperia Z.
[Xperia Z General] Seaclean:
What's a tft file? Does your Phone need to be rooted in order to use it?
[Xperia Z General] reptile64:
Check this :good:
[Xperia Z General] Vandermonde:
A .ftf is like .iso or .dmg it's an image of the Operating System already compile and set for market devices. Mostly use by customer service centers and the usage of those don't require root.
[Xperia Z General] Badre88:
Deleted
[Xperia Z General] kamalmawa:
This was posted by Vodafone Australia 2 days ago. So most likely it will be end of May or early June

And this was posted week before that which explains the above post ;)
[Xperia Z General] theorlyowl:
But why dont they release generic firmware for unbranded devices ? All i read is provider XYZ testing firmware/finds bug, goto 1. What prevents Sony from giving unbranded devices their update ?
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
I think it is because there is a lot more provider branded devices than unbranded ones. My guess is that's why they test with providers first.
[Xperia Z General] zippy01:
I say just wait till it's ready and pushed to devices/posted online etc whether it be May, June or July. I've an unbranded device but this will most probably be the last major update we will be getting so I'd rather a bug free release.

Although with that said don't stop me checking every day :P
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
So with our good processor, only kitkat would be the end of xperia z? Damn..

See this :

http://www.ibtimes.co.in/android-v4...-zl-zr-sp-june-v4-3-jelly-bean-heading-600413

Congratulations, they finally delayed it to june..
[Xperia Z General] St.Jimmy90:
That information is not official. Kinvortex wrote about that document 2 pages back. Our only trustable source of information is the sony website. They still list it as 05.
[Xperia Z General] ari197:
the answer is nothing prevent Sony from releasing it .. BUT, if they want to have a good relationship with major operators, they would prefer to have their firmware tested on the network (even for unbranded one) .. so that they can be sure that their firmware won't cause issue with the network ..

there was a network problem cause by a version upgrade released by a phone company (not running Android) that forces a major operator group urging their users NOT to do the update.
[Xperia Z General] xperian.ir:
Leaked picture from Xperia Z that is running 10.5.a.0.230

http://xperian.ir/تصویری-درز-کرده-از-اکسپریا-z-با-نسخه-اند/
[Xperia Z General] zippy01:
Since our phones are now classed as old because over 1 year since launch then I'd say we are lucky to get KitKat at all

July would be 18 month since launch
[Xperia Z General] alexpraga:
I would buy Z again today!

From the 3 Zs this is the lightest and smallest design. Everything else on specs are more than enough for me (I really don't understand the 20 megapix thing). So, a bugless kitkat will be the cherry on top.

Sent from my Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
But our processor is so capable to go more than a kitkat (i think so)..

This is unfair..
[Xperia Z General] ninjy:
It's business.

Anyway, if you can unclock your bootloader, there will probably be some custom roms running higher versions later.
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
Well, i only have one month warranty left on my ZL.. Maybe after this i will unlock my bootloader.
[Xperia Z General] coolrevi:
Xperia zl doesn't have much custom Rom as much a z.
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
yes i know, but at least it still have custom rom..

thats why i'm hoping this kitkat out soon..
[Xperia Z General] coolrevi:
Yap same here tried all the available custom Roms. Available. All of en had Exact same problem. Phone touch doesn't respond after keeping it in pocket for few minutes. So back on stock and waiting for official kitkat.
[Xperia Z General] uber_cool:
update

someday soon :silly:
[Xperia Z General] joejoe23:
S3 which is a year older than the Z already got kit kat.
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
International S3 won't get KitKat update:

http://www.sammobile.com/2014/05/08...-galaxy-s-iii-gt-i9300-and-galaxy-s-iii-mini/
[Xperia Z General] Hellscythe:
Wasn't the i9300 the minority compared to i9305 anyway?
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
LTE and 2 gb of RAM on i9305 vs 1 gb on i9300, but still i9300 wouldn not get official KitKat.
[Xperia Z General] nemer12:
hope that the new iphone will have 4.7 inchi display :( but enough with off-topic and other phones..

Because sony didn't do you in early-mid may. Its clear that our phone and WE xperia z costumers are not in the center of the "we have to pleasure our clients", this is a poor MARKETING. And also I seen that Samsung has 71% of market in SMART WATCHES, sony made them hmmm I dont know the years but some years and they didnt sold like they wanted, Sony you gotta do something :( .
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Yes, fire the planning management and software engineering department for starters. And than, hire better experts.

Goddamn Huawei got KK before us on XZ. HTC, even slow LG got it. And when we get KK, it will be announced new iteration of Android...
[Xperia Z General] daniLaLaLaLaLa:
Well, i got a sense that my next phone will not be a sony smartphone anymore. Xperia ZL will be my last sony device. :(
[Xperia Z General] feydakin:
Same for me. Slow Android updates and ****ty custom ROM support (CM11 was much better on my Galaxy S2 than on the Xperia ZL now) and no direct and easy way to root the device (on android 4.3) is a no go for me.
[Xperia Z General] brau__lio:
I join to the people who is not going to buy a Sony smartphone any more. Awful [emoji21]
[Xperia Z General] :
at areamobile.de i have read the sony india said that the z, zl and zr becomes the kitkat update in juni and the lower phones like the t2 ultra or m2 and e1 should get the update on july...

here is the original german arcticle: http://www.areamobile.de/news/27199-sony-kitkat-updates-fuer-sechs-xperia-modelle-im-juni-und-juli
[Xperia Z General] Pablosch23:
Who cares if you guys are not buying sony, this thread is about sony update.
[Xperia Z General] iamkani:
Need to clean this unlawful comments... :|

Xperia Z
[Xperia Z General] zippy01:
Well I will say that my next phone will be a Sony, and I have a SW2 and i'll wait for the bug free kitkat then when I get my next phone I will do it all over again :) as said having a bug free release is more important than getting it before others
[Xperia Z General] boss_y:
Everybody knows if you wanna updates buy google phone. If you want chacki phone buy something else. Thats why I am having Nexus and my wife has XZ. But don't get me wrong, XZ is excellent phone...
[Xperia Z General] iDroid8:
Get an Apple device if you want updates on the day of release -.- just wait patiently, because *****ing about it in this thread neither spurs on Sony to push the update out or does anyone any good at all.
[Xperia Z General] niaboc79:
Good bye, we won't miss you ;)

People like haven't anything to do on XDA...

Envoyé de mon D6503 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
I think the thread title is not "Why I hate Sony" and "I'll never buy Sony again" so stop complaining about it. Sell ur phones and buy whatever u like. Please stop with off-topic discussion. Thanks.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Difference is on all my previous phones I needed to install a custom ROM because the stock one was rubbish.

With my ZL, this is the first time I don't feel the need to install custom ROM.

At the moment, I don't even have root. I have to admit I wish there was an easy-root and it's the only negative thing for me... but apart from anti-ads I don't really miss much at all.

I can disable almost any Sony and Google app resulting in almost no bloatware.
[Xperia Z General] ninjy:
Adblock Plus don't need root to work ;)

https://adblockplus.org/en/android-config
[Xperia Z General] NamenIos:
Unlock bootloader and root that is the most secure and best way to do it. Every other method is bad in terms of security.

And please don't come with "I am not allowed to unlock my bootloader". That is the problem with your carrier and not the manufacturer. I prefer secure phones and I am happy that those carrier devices don't f... me too.
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
I love people that complain like that... Like this update would make your phone 100X faster and give you some new hardware.

If you dont like it why the hell you bought it? after one month you should find what is good and what is bad in phone, and if you buy phone only for installing custom ROMs i feel sorry for you, really.

Just like DoubleYouPee, I dont have even root on my xperia z, hell! I still use stock launcher! Why? Because before, when I had samsung and nexus, everything was pissing me off, loots of work to make something run smooth, custom rom that was fas but give me loots of FC, and now?

Almost one month without turning off my xperia z! only few older apps give me FC(Like FunnyPic app) no problem with performance or anything like that. Give me such smooth device from samsung without custom rom

And Updates? I don't see big deal of having kitkat on my xpeira, its nice, but if 4.3 run smooth and all apps work fine why anyone would need update? to make another custom ROM for it? After so many years playing with roms on my galaxy and nexus, and even Arc S, I finally found device that work like it should work, and any update is just nice addons nothing more.

So if you like to complain that you dont get 4.4 go buy your beloved samsung and leave this threat, we gonna have smooth life even on 4.3 and you would spend rests of your life looking for better customROM for your galaxy that would not lag.
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
I can see you are satisfied with 4.3.. But wait till u experience 4.4 on your phone.. 4.4 is kinda a major upgrade in Android.. Power management is better, hence better battery backup than 4.3.. More performance and better RAM management too.. Hence overall system will be atleast 50% more better than 4.3 on XZ or any other smartphone for that sake.. You will feel the difference in both once u get the update..
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
but its still not gonna be huge change, its not gonna give me snapdragon 805 or 12GB ram, its still the same device, and with still the same battery thats is only major bug in xperia Z, no matter what update you gonna throw there its still gonna barely last one day with medium usage.

And looking at other devices with 4.4 update I see how kitkat work with videos... from 5-8h of playback to 4-5h... and its not only from Sony, all devices get worst in this terms.

And RAM? no matter what Im doing i still cant choke it...
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
It would be better but not 50% better, don't expect miracles.Small improvement in battery life because of better power management, little bit better in performance and RAM would be almost same. I would say a maximum of 5-10% improvement and that's it.
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
I am talking about System stability bro.. It will be a big improvement.. Although it can't be seen with the naked eye, the overall system will be stable'ish.. Unnecessary processes won't run in 4.4.. It shouldn't atleast as per Google.. I know it wont bring much changes to user end side, but for developers its a boost.. There's certainly noticeable improvement in 4.4.2 from 4.3.. But i agree that there will only be 5-10% of battery improvement.. :)
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
4.4.2 is fantastic, i used it on my Z1 (broken :(), it look's great. I hope it would be the same on Z. :)
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
Z1 and Z will have same features in terms of S/W.. Except for the Camera features..
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Power management? Performance? Ram Management?

1) Battery life is mostly dependent on battery size, cpu/gpu and screen (usage). Changing to 4.4 will not significantly change that..unless 4.3 had major bugs.

2) Performance? Like what, in benchmarks? My ZL is super smooth and never stutters or is slow with multitasking

3) Ram? Seriously? I haven't even gotten close to 2GB

Same thing.. Stability? I haven't turned off my phone since I updated to 4.3. Not kidding. And i've had ZERO crashes/force closes.
[Xperia Z General] tOrNadO™:
Have u used 4.2 on XZ? Noticed how much RAM 4.2 used and how much 4.3 uses? Please do the research and then u will know exactly what i am talking about.. Ofc 4.3 is well coded, but heating issue wasn't there in 4.2 when i used.. In 4.3 yes.. When phone heats up, more battery drains.. Since camera and battery are next to each other in the circuit, XZ heats more because of the camera.. And 4.3 has several bugs which should be solved in 4.4.. Like i said earlier, its not front end stability, back end one.. If u knew a little bit of development, u would understand.. I know 4.3 feels smooth.. I never said anything about lags.. Only crashes doesn't mean stability.. And FYI, battery life does also depend on S/w, not just H/w.. U can google about it.. ;)
[Xperia Z General] kistigun:
it's coming, roll out starting today:

http://blogs.sonymobile.com/2014/05/21/new-sony-software-upgrade-including-android-4-4-kitkat-rolls-for-xperia-z-xperia-zl-xperia-zr-and-xperia-tablet-z/
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
:D

Good good. I wonder which region will get it first?

Prepare for Apollo's latest firmware thread to get flooded by people complaining they didn't get it yet lol.
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
http://scavenger.ch/sonyupdate/?model=C6603&id=1270-7280

this customization number got it think

i dont seem to get it from ota or pcc
[Xperia Z General] kistigun:
changed my build.prop to the given customization number but i'm not getting an OTA, hopefully a FTF will pop up soon ;)
[Xperia Z General] kingvortex:
Most updates aren't available OTA until a few weeks after release. PC Companion/SUS is the normal method of distribution initially.
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
i am now using sus and it say i got an update

downloading now 900 mb:fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z General] hary232:
on which region are you?
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
1270-7280
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
My ZL doesn't overheat.
[Xperia Z General] hush66:
Do share the FTF once you've downloaded. :D
[Xperia Z General] kistigun:
nice! can you make a FTF?
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
i dont know how to and if i knew it would take so much time, i have only 3 mb upload.

btw they chagned boot inimation
[Xperia Z General] kistigun:
here is a how to: http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/development/noobs-guide-create-stock-firmware-ftf-t2188129
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
I think he can't upload it becuase of slow net speed. :crying::crying:
[Xperia Z General] dipesh1502:
Waiting eagerly:P
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
ok its done and its kitkat :D
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Bro..

What about the bugs ? All bugs fixed ? lags in setting scroll and SystemUI lag while pull down and up ?
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
setting has lags and notification to

any other bugs to search for?
[Xperia Z General] avindal:
That's Nordics / Scandinavia.
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
Here we go, it is official :)

http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/software/phones/xperia-z/
[Xperia Z General] theorlyowl:
Pls create an ftf :D
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Lol... Still No Bug Fixes In Official Update Too.. :crying::crying:
[Xperia Z General] hary232:
downloading now via emma. :)
[Xperia Z General] light19940120:
Please open to the dialer app and type this code: *#*#7378423#*#*

Then go to Service info, then go to Software info.

And please write me the Customization version.
[Xperia Z General] msc3169:
Great, kitkat is finally here..!!

Now atleast the numerous 'where is my kitkat update?' questions will finally stop.

And now, let the bugs be brought out please.. :D

sent via my XPERIA™ Z
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
i siad it alrady 1270-7280

i fu** the phone while tring to get ftf D:

well ill start from scratch
[Xperia Z General] Rajeev:
Lags In Settings, SystemUI and Notification still there.. According to the User Comment
[Xperia Z General] kistigun:
But the "this update s*cks" comments will start... :D
[Xperia Z General] dvd777:
I am afraid it won't stop. This is the beggining of whinning. You can now expect threads "Where is my KK" , "I didn't get it yes" and that fool DJocker who will ask Sony to release HK version of KK here on XDA forum.
[Xperia Z General] msc3169:
To be very honest, the only visible change I can get by updating to kitkat is the build number and android version change.

Thanks to all the hardworking developers here, they ported most of the kitkat goodies already on 4.3 and that to pretty much flawlessly.

So in effect it was as if i was living with the update since the last month or so in advance :p

Cheers to the devs, keep up the good work, big thanks to them..!!

sent via my XPERIA™ Z
[Xperia Z General] toby913:
according to the german sony homepage it should be available too :D
[Xperia Z General] wolf.XZ:
Guys, if you don't wanna wait for update you can change your custom number.

Here is the link to see how:

http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/general/guide-download-firmware-customization-t2311211

I changed and now ..Updating:good:
[Xperia Z General] totzkitotz:
HOpefully, someome will upload the ftf of the official kitkat :D :good:
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
i got the ftf but its my first time getting it so if somthing happend its not my fult D:

here is a torrent

btw i did fu** my phone while doing this (factory reset) D:
[Xperia Z General] FateNozomi:
List!

The list of phones that have .230 firmware

Generic BAL: 1270-7278

Generic CH: 1270-6188

Generic NCB: 1270-7280

Generic_a IL: 1271-6860
[Xperia Z General] davidbejar:
ftf please

can someone capture the OTA ftf for all the regions please? I checked with the Xperia Update Checker tool and Kitkat is avalible in just a few regions.
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
ok the torrent works but it will take some time as my upload speed is 3mb
[Xperia Z General] davidbejar:
Downloading and sharing

Thanks:good: downloading and sharing with uTorrent. do you think this ftf will work with flash tool?
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
its suppose to but as i said it my first time so be careful
[Xperia Z General] fards:
Scratch that. Missed the screen grab that showed 230
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
.230 :)
[Xperia Z General] djalcho:
Generic GR 4.4.2

Custom number: 1270-4986

Latest firmware: 10.5.A.0.230

This is for Generic GR (Greece).
[Xperia Z General] Akinaro:
Looking at comments I see that everyone who use their phones for something other than 24/7 ROM customization, should wait few weeks before they touch any .ftf image.

If its gonna be pain in the arse to use it everyday(lags/bugs) its better to keep good old 4.3 its not funn to installing 4.3 with all apps again if its laging...
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
its not that bad

i can use it daily, and i think in couple of weeks sony will fix it
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
Nothing yet for me.
[Xperia Z General] pjgowtham:
.230 released for US and TW regions
[Xperia Z General] kamalmawa:
[MENTION=5164470]Apollo89[/MENTION] has posted list of kitkat available customization here http://xdaforums.com/xperia-z/general/info-firmware-version-customization-t2315914/page89
[Xperia Z General] Toban:
After my kit kat update, i cannot change lock screen, I tried by changing themes, changing manually in options and by going to album set picture-> as lock screen. nothing happens. anyone have the same problem? any ideas how to fix it?
[Xperia Z General] toby913:
it says started rolling out... guess we still have to wait...
[Xperia Z General] zippy01:
NCB is out :)
[Xperia Z General] Jodus:
I can't wait for an ftf http://scavenger.ch/sonyupdate/?model=C6603&id=1270-7280
[Xperia Z General] neoxx3m:
Take a clean install or try with factory reset.
[Xperia Z General] deniel:
Possible stupid question:

Ad I bought the phone when 4.3 was already out since lot of time, I don't know if C6602 has always got update the same time or after as the c6603, or there isn't even a difference at all?
[Xperia Z General] sipe1:
C6603_Unbranded_10.5.A.0.230 NCB.ftf from torrent

https://mega.co.nz/#!E09U0R4K!tr0XL5oBGjeA8eK6LGV4WDwaJ2H7Hgg9UalmJH8OlVQ

Thanks Dominic.
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
Does Generic NCB (Nordic Combined) have Sony Music and Video Unlimited Services???
[Xperia Z General] sipe1:
I don't know, I just downloaded torrent and uploaded.
[Xperia Z General] Jamal_RS:
Direct Download Link for C6603 KK ftf
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
NP

does this work?
[Xperia Z General] sipe1:
I just downloaded your torrent and uploaded it. That's all.
[Xperia Z General] dipesh1502:
Hey guys,, Stock Rooted Rom coming soon;)

So be patient and wait for it,,it will have the lag fixes;)
[Xperia Z General] kris o poranq:
For locked BL?

Kris o poranq
[Xperia Z General] dipesh1502:
Yep sure
[Xperia Z General] Kamy-R:
Another download link :)

Special thanks to sipel for MEGA link

Expiration date: a week later

http://fs2.filegir.com/snioulus/C6603_Unbranded_10.5.A.0.230_NCB.ftf
[Xperia Z General] theorlyowl:
Fix for lag in settings = Enable developer options, enable Force GPU rendering. Reboot, profit.
[Xperia Z General] DoubleYouPee:
They didn't fix that in the new 4.4? (.230)
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
no
[Xperia Z General] theorlyowl:
Obviously not :S
[Xperia Z General] kgtau:
Really ?

Pre-rooted 4.4 stock ROM ? can't wait for that :good:

Been using 4.3 with no root cause there's no simple root method yet , available root method for 4.3 as far i know is still have to downgrade the firmware to earlier version , unlock & relock bootloader , backup TA Partition , etc , hmm well i wont do that method , very risky to do if you want locked bootloader and still want have the marlin keys untouched
[Xperia Z General] dominic21:
so did some 1 flash it to check if its working properly?

btw sd card functionality seems to work as in 4.3

when i use es file explorer i can see all the files on the sd card
[Xperia Z General] JanM RS:
No, lags like hell!!!! :rolleyes:

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Very very big thanks!!! :D:good: