yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
You should try renovate sixth sense rom, it might be right up your street. ;)

Sent from my baked potato with blue cheese
[One (M7) General] metaljoker:
OH MY GOD! IT WORKED!!!!!!!!

It took me 2 weeks to find out why it didn't work properly!

But this thread helped me big time!!!!

Thank you mister!
[One (M7) General] Vazduh:
Anyone with "whelp, it sucks ..." message managed to s-off with the newest firewater?
[One (M7) General] Super_Dork_42:
I did.
[One (M7) General] daanismyname:
And you got that 'whelp' message as well before? And not with the New version?

I just tried and it still says I cant S-OFF
[One (M7) General] Super_Dork_42:
Yeah, after one bottle chugged it said it was successful.

Sent from my HTC One M7 at your mom's house.
[One (M7) General] daanismyname:
Ah nice! On what rom did you try this? Because on insertcoin it doesnt work
[One (M7) General] Super_Dork_42:
I'm on stock.

Sent from my HTC One M7 at your mom's house.
[One (M7) General] Vazduh:
Well, unfortunately for me didn't work. Still the same message ""whelp, this sucks ..." in both insertcoin and stock.

Anyway, Kudos to the devs for the great work. It's appreciated.

Cheers!
[One (M7) General] kRYySTy:
After trying s-off i got this:

==================== firewater S-OFF 8.0.5.15 ===========================

firewater S-OFF comes with NO WARRANTY (express or implied)
and NO GUARANTEE OF FITNESS for any particular task.
We have made every effort we can to make this a safe process for users
however the authors disclaim any liability for damage to your phone
or other materials or devices used during this process.

The entire risk of running firewater S-OFF lies with you, the user.
By using this software you acknowledge and accept that the authors
are not liable for any loss, material or otherwise howsoever caused.

firewater S-OFF may not be rehosted, repackaged, one-clicked, etc.
support is available @ #firewater on the freenode and andirc networks
support is much faster there vs. posting helpme threads on xda etc

Do not operate a motor vehicle after interacting with firewater
Do not inhale firewater or allow firewater to come in contact with eyes
firewater is best served at extremely cold temperatures
firewater has been known to cause temporary lapses in judgement
DO NOT TAUNT FIREWATER, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

=========================================================================

Do you understand the implications of these warnings?

(Yes/No)
Yes
Yes

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, ho
ld power for 60 seconds !!
=========================================================================
preparing, one moment

The first bottle is open
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 2
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 3
chugging..........
whelp, that bottle is empty, opening bottle 4
chugging..........

D:\HTC One\ADB>

I am on ARHD 53, any ideas?
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
Regrettably my HTC One M7 still gets "whelp...". It sucks, my old HTC One M7 had S-OFF and I had to return it in for service (camera sensor broke), and now this new one won't S-OFF. Tried RUMRUNNER and Firewater many times on countless ROMs from 4.22 - 4.4.

It's quite frustrating. When I saw that a new version was out, I got excited, but no dice for me :(
[One (M7) General] Child's Play:
Blame htc. Tell them to get rid of the security thing
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Yeah HTC seem reluctant to fully relinquish control.

Sent from my baked potato with blue cheese
[One (M7) General] beaups:
You guys are funny. HTC is only oem you can turn security off to this level, of course they don't want an exploit to be able to cause this.

Htcdev unlock puts security in similar position other mfrs.
[One (M7) General] :
are you turning fast start in power settings off? because that was the reason it doesn't work on some branding devices, maybe it will help you, too.
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
Isn't the main reason because he has an older cpu revision that doesn't support the exploit?
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
Thanks for the suggestion, but that is not the issue. The "Whelp this sucks" screen comes on instantly, well before any chugging and any reboots.

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I think it has to do with newer rather than older. My HTC One M7 purchased in 2013 had no isssue, however, in April I got a new replacement from warranty. So perhaps it is some new code to block the exploit put in by HTC at the factory. All I know is I want S-OFF bad. There are many custom modifications I make to my ROMs, and I am really locked out of all of that right now.
[One (M7) General] --anx--:
Same thing here...after saying YES to the dialogue...one or two seconds and then "WHELP THIS SUCKS..." message...without any kind of chugging... :(

Tried on Mac and PC with stock 4.4.2 rooted...

I'm afraid I'll never get this damn S-OFF...so I'll wait for the official Sense for get the new firmware version, and then back to custom Sense like ARHD or Insert Coin...

Still with S-ON... :(
[One (M7) General] killcreek:
Desperate Help Needed

Hello,

I recently S-Offed 5 Sprint devices without any hiccup. However today i got my personal SPRINT HTC ONE M8 and when i try to S-OFF it,

I got the 'WHELP' Message..

I wanted to understand what made this specific Sprint HTC ONE M8 not to S-Off. Please help me on this. if i could get S-Off by any means. Or i should live with S-ON.???

Any replies are much appreciated.
[One (M7) General] Super_Dork_42:
Forgive me if I'm wrong here, but this thread is about the M7, not the M8. I think you might have better fortune looking in an M8 thread.
[One (M7) General] mago988:
hi guys, you have a older version of firewater? maybe the version 0.3.1? i think that the developer has blocked the use of the tools to cid t-mob101 for the number of fail, but now i have done the update of the firmware to 4.4.2 and i have a little possibility that the tool work but with the new version of the tool not try to do s-off because recognizes the cid! Thanks!
[One (M7) General] beaups:
Older versions aren't going to work and we do not block any cids.
[One (M7) General] kRYySTy:
Anyone s-off on hboot 1.56? If yes on what rom? I tried on arhd but without succes. After one or two bottles phone enters on qhusb mode with any error or anything

Trimis de pe al meu HTC One folosind Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] sp_kimji:
Thanks! Now, my M7 s-off already. :D
[One (M7) General] gpmartinson:
Which ROMs

Is there a known list of ROMs that works with firewater. The latest ARHD does not with a t-mo HTC One 1.56.
[One (M7) General] sToRm1nG:
I s-off'ed on 1.56 using ARHD. This worked without any issues but I already gained S-OFF before that using rumrunner on HBoot 1.55. After that I used fastboot oem writesecureflag 3.
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
It depends what you mean by not works. If it says whelp you can't s off or whatever it is then it doesn't matter what Rom you have. The hardware in your phone can't work with the exploit. If it's coming up with another error than it should be fixable
[One (M7) General] gpmartinson:
chugging.....

OK, let me be more specific. When I run it I get:

The first bottle is open

chugging..........

Then it just goes back to a command prompt.
[One (M7) General] Super_Dork_42:
I did on stock 4.4.2.
[One (M7) General] mago988:
and why with a few phone attempts to s-off but not work and other mobile gives the message that you can not use the tool?
[One (M7) General] kRYySTy:
I've also s-off before with rumrunner and also firewater, but now after fastboot oem writesecureflag 3 it wont work anymore. After 1,2 or 3 rarely bottles it go back to command promt and phone goes qhusb mode.

Trimis de pe al meu HTC One folosind Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] alangrig:
When 1at bottle starts, just copy any custom ROM to internal memory from PC . Voila: s-off.
[One (M7) General] kRYySTy:
You mean just copy paste after 1 bottle without flash or anything? While firewater exploit running?

Trimis de pe al meu HTC One folosind Tapatalk
[One (M7) General] sToRm1nG:
Exactly. There were people who could s-off when they copied over a large file during the s-off process. If I were you I just would try it again and again because it should work but it could take some tries.
[One (M7) General] Seanie280672:
Yup, that's the message I get, anyone know if this is being worked on or fixed ? Firewater doesn't even try, I just get that message and rumrunner opens all the bottles but fails.
[One (M7) General] --anx--:
Same here...on firewater no chugging but whelps message after one or two seconds...

I think it's going to remain like this...ones with this message just can't achieve S-OFF on their phones, maybe because of some different hardware inside, I don't know...
[One (M7) General] kRYySTy:
Ok guys, i finally get s-off after 100+ tries:)) My advice to you is if you dont get the ”whelp, it sucks..” message and phone simply reboot or enters qhusb mode is to dont give up :) And also after the first bottle opened you could try to copy something over 1+ GB. I have achieved s-off on ARHD 62 with hboot 1.56
[One (M7) General] Edris89:
wow man got s off in my first try
[One (M7) General] bocadave:
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[One (M7) General] gpmartinson:
Can you explain what you mean by "And also after the first bottle opened you could try to copy something over 1+ GB" Do you mean flash a file in fastboot?

I hear you..and I haven't gotten the "whelp" message so I am encouraged, but I also can't seem to get anywhere. I am going to flash ARHD 62 and try again, but specific steps would be helpful.
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
After the first bottle opens, you move something to the phone through USB.
[One (M7) General] gpmartinson:
you mean copy a file to the phone via flashing it...or what?
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
I said through USB. You transfer a file to the phone from your computer. Not flashing.
[One (M7) General] RichardWood:
Thanks for the guide!
[One (M7) General] Igor6661:
no, it doesn't work... we can only hope devs will look deeper in to the problem...
[One (M7) General] :
But for me it's also not working with Android 4.3 and Temproot :(
[One (M7) General] Steph09:
Everyone who's having problems should go to the firewater irc channel and report your problem! They'll probably be able to help you there if you don't find a solution here :)
[One (M7) General] Igor6661:
not very practical solution, i thought forums are made for that...but looks like devs want it like that :cowboy:
[One (M7) General] Steph09:
They're very helpful there and quick to reply, it's not that unpractical, you'll see. It actually goes quicker since it's a chat. Not that bad.
[One (M7) General] beaups:
It's impossible to help people in 100 different threads that go OT. Easier to do it in realtime.
[One (M7) General] gustav30:
quick question - if I go the temp root method to achieve s-off; how would I go about unlocking the bootloader?

I'm only asking because the last s-off I did was with revone, and with that at the time there were extra commands to lock and unlock the bootloader.

(I'm s-on again because HTC repaired my device and replaced my main board)
[One (M7) General] kinghorsey:
Doesn't seem to work on 4.4.2 with hboot 1.56 for me (Canadian version).

It is htcdev unlocked and rooted and I've installed custom roms but s-off remains unattainable.
[One (M7) General] gustav30:
Awesome! S-Off for me on T-mobile USA. Used the temp root method. Just be patient, took my phone about 5 minutes via temp root.

Thanks
[One (M7) General] BigladUK:
Awesome

Method 2 worked perfectly for me on m Sim Free UK total stock phone.

After the very very simple unlocking process ( via my Mac ) I changed to a super CID and got the 4.4.2 update

Thanks guys, this is brilliant

Si
[One (M7) General] stah17:
Hey guys,

any progress/news for firestarter update?

Seem to be a lot of people who can't s-off their devices.
[One (M7) General] -XIV-:
As a first timer, it lists "2 methods"....is that just up to us which one to choose? I assume one method is easier than the other, no?
[One (M7) General] BigladUK:
Method 2 ment no data loss for me
[One (M7) General] kinghorsey:
One method assumes you have root the other doesn't.
[One (M7) General] -XIV-:
That's what I assumed, just wanted to make sure as I thought the Verizon HTC one hasn't been found ROOT yet.

But the "temp root" method...after I do such, how do I actually keep it "rooted?"

I'm holding back from the 4.4 OTA as it has things that changes that I cannot deal with (no disable lockscreen, Sense emoji, Google Now swipe up extra step, etc.)
[One (M7) General] evo21:
When you achieve S-OFF/Unlocked you can root the usual way. Plenty of guides out there.

This temproot method is useful for those who don't want to void their warranty by going through HTCDev (in the case of Verizon i don't think you can even do that)
[One (M7) General] -XIV-:
2 questions:

I'm attempting to try FireWater preparation but setting up ADB and Fastboot, running the command I could not have the random number before the fastboot word show up (recognize my phone connected - when entered "./fastboot devices"

Says to make sure HTC Dev is erased. Is this from my computer or phone as well? I deleted (Mac) it from my computer but when I connect my phone, on the status bar it gives option to choose HTC Sync mananger from "CD Rom"
[One (M7) General] cokey77:
Can reboot phone but cannot do other commands please help.
[One (M7) General] kinghorsey:
Error message?
[One (M7) General] mattey94:
Problem with CID: 90014a48...

Is it possible to make s-off on my htc one, unlocked, rooted, hboot: 1.56 with CID: 90014a48.... ?? I read that with CID starting with this cod is impossible to make s-off, but it might be possible if i have hboot 1.44 or 1.54, but to downgrade hboot i have to have s-off >.< ... I try everything. If i check if my device is connected properly - i use "fastboot devices" command. It shows me the device, but when i try to "adb reboot" it prints out error - no device.

(I'm trying to do the s-off beacuse 1. custom rom won't install properly (bootloop to recovery). 2. i want to fix green tint camera problem, and i can't move the file that fixes it, i used every permission i could, rooted, es file with supersu permissions, even check everything in file properties permissions)
[One (M7) General] nirez:
Does it work with hboot 1.57 that come with 5.11.401.110 base? I am going to send my device to warrany soon, I dont want to stuck at UNLOCKED status because not getting s-off.
[One (M7) General] yatindroid:
your problem is adb driver try Google nexus naked driver

CID is like HTC__001 try cid getter app or fastboot getvar all

Custom Rom problem fastboot erase cache

Green tint replacement camera

just try it firewater is lucky game

sent from HTC One
[One (M7) General] bloodbath:
I have the dreaded "whelp" issue. I am not asking for an ETA or anything. I just want to know if anyone is still working it. Thanks.
[One (M7) General] daanismyname:
I'd like to know this as well :)
[One (M7) General] victorsaad:
I followed the steps many times with no luck.

Once i try to run firewater i just get nothing.

My HTC one dual sim is HTCDev unlocked with hboot 2.49.

original OS is 4.21.402.5.

installed Maximus 2.0.0 and want to go back to stock.

My main purpose is to go back to stock again to get OTA for senses 6.

I don't find any RUU files for x.xx.402.x at all.
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Isn't there a separate forum for the HTC one dual sim? Thought it was a totally different device.

Sent from my baked potato
[One (M7) General] nirez:
preparing, one moment

The first bottle is open
chugging..........
root@m7:/ #

What the heck is that?Just tried get s-off with hboot 1.57 on stock sense6 rom but, that was something i wasnt expected. It should go for another bottle, isnt it?
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
Pretty sure hboot 1.57 isn't supported
[One (M7) General] nirez:
I wasnt able to get s-off on Stock Sense 6 ROM, but i installed Sense 5.5 ARHD 53.0 and tried firewater again.. It worked like a charm...

Here is the snapshot i get from my bootloader screen ;)
[One (M7) General] matekaneve:
Have you had the "whelp" issue before?
[One (M7) General] nirez:
Nope, i've never had whelp issue before..
[One (M7) General] victorsaad:
In the dual sim forum they directed me here. They are saying it should be the same. Appreciate your support.
[One (M7) General] rm83855:
Cannot get past first chug.....

Sorry for the title, couldn't resist....

This is what i get....

preparing, one moment

The first bottle is open

chugging..........

root@m7:/

Is this somehow asking for root permission again? i didnt get any pop up on my phone?

Thanks
[One (M7) General] beaups:
Guessing you took recent ota. .
[One (M7) General] jaykay1984:
Hi to all!

There is someone, even a user who was able to get s-off after getting the error message "whelp this sucks ... etc"?

Inviato dal mio HTC One
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
If you get that message there is nothing you can do. Hope for an update in the future that might fix it
[One (M7) General] jaykay1984:
think, also officially updating the firmware and hboot via ota I would always be in the same situation?
[One (M7) General] rm83855:
It's all good it worked and I'm now running ARHD Google edition ROM which is by the the fastest rom I've ever used!

I did manually update the firmware as I was having overheating issue because of poor signal. I flashed no old version of ViperOne rom and them tried s-off. This did the first one bottle open chugging...... Message and then instantly I had s off (only after one bottle...) would definitely recommend using ViperOne rom when trying s-off
[One (M7) General] Tepes4:
So, you had 1.56 hboot and was getting the whelp message when trying to s-off with firewater and updated manually the firmware and now it works? How did you update the firmware? With a RUU? I am on a CID: VODAP102 and hboot 1.56 and always getting whelp. I have unlocked the bootloader via htcdev but can't get s-off...

Would appreciate some help...

Thanks in advance

Tepes4
[One (M7) General] rm83855:
Ok first off i will suggest steps based on how i managed to achieve s-off, i will not pretend my knowledge of this is fantastic (i know this really pisses the developers off...)

What is this whelp message? ive never saw this message but assume its some kind or error message. Updating the firmware had nothing to do with me gaining s-off this was something i did to improve my radio. I think the hboot version is more relevant when gaining s-off i was also on 1.56. The firewater site suggested using a rom with an unsecured kernel etc and recommended Android Revolution HD, this did not work for me. I factory resetted and wiped everything (system, data, cache, dalvik) and then installed viperone. I then retried and it worked first time after trying for hours running Android revolution.

What phone have you got? Be careful when wiping system as i have the htc one which doesnt have a sd card slot and had to sideload viperone as a result of wiping the os from the phone.
[One (M7) General] Seanie280672:
You have the exact same device as I do, im on Vodafone UK CID is HTC__001, we cant get s-off as of yet, many others like it, the exploit is no longer available, RM83855 wasn't ever getting the whelp message so his way although a little extreme was always going to work for him.
[One (M7) General] chepeliyas:
No, only stock.
[One (M7) General] hoang555:
Whelp message is killing me ! hboot 1.56 :(
[One (M7) General] Tepes4:
The whelp message is when firewater says you cannot s-off your phone no matter what (flashing, rooting etc). I also think the hboot is the problem (being 1.56) but how to downgrade hboot without s-off?

The problem is (as I was told when I asked in the irc channel) that firewater development is more or less finished so... we shouldn't expect much. I hope I'm wrong or at least I understood wrong what the guys in irc said but I think we're stuck.

Tepes4
[One (M7) General] Seanie280672:
You cant, simple as that.

I don't think HBOOT is the problem, its down to either a piece of hardware, or the firmware on the phone, the problem started for some after an update, so that kinda rules out hardware (maybe).

Firewater maybe be finished, but someone will eventually come up with a new tool im sure, they always do, these devices, and I expect all future HTC devices will come with this locked down exploit, sooner or later someone will find a hack or a way around it.

Everyone buying new HTC devices, including Dev's arnt going to live without S-OFF, and if HTC have done it to the M7 which is a couple of years old now, I expect they will do it to all future devices.
[One (M7) General] rm83855:
I would hardly call flashing a new ROM extreme.... Updating my firmware was something I did on my previous ROM to improve my signal, whether this helped or not I don't know. If you want to update your firmware there's a good tutorial on xda I think it's one of the first few results from Google just search it. As no one knows exactly what the issue is I wouldn't let them tell you it isn't possible. They told me the same and I managed it.
[One (M7) General] bloodbath:
I'm not sure what you mean. They told you what wasn't possible? If you mean upgrading/downgrading the firmware, I believe it is impossible without being S-off. Since those folks, myself included, can't get S-off, we are currently stuck. If you found another way, please let me know how you did it.
[One (M7) General] rm83855:
I'm not referring to updating firmware the original question was how to get s-off, maybe I replied to the wrong person but it seems that everyone who says they cannot gain s-off are told 'it's impossible' or 'you can't wait for the next update', myself included when its not always impossible. My advice was try different ROMs with unsecured kernels as this is how I achieved it... Many people all over the net have stressed the importance of being persistent with firewater and as the chap above who was having issues was on hboot 1.52 which is supported by firewater, I don't see how it's impossible.
[One (M7) General] jelmer-p:
Delete

---------- Post added at 09:21 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:18 PM ----------

When I try, after opening bottle 2 cmd just goes back without firewater giving a message to normal commandline (C:/android) Is adb messing it up?

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Allright Fixed, I installed the new HTC drivers and deleteld HTC Sync Manager. But didn't restart my laptop. So I restarted and with the first bottle I got S-off. Cheers!
[One (M7) General] vv91xv:
I have s-off.

Maximus 33.0

HBOOT 1.56

:)
[One (M7) General] gLam16:
Is there anyway to fix this whelp issue ?
[One (M7) General] beaups:
Is that Whelp message not clear?
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
It messed up probably because you had HTC sync installed the first time?

Sent from my baked potato
[One (M7) General] rs1089:
I had s-off and then had to get the camera repaired, meaning going back to s-on and then getting hboot 1.56. I got the whelp message and as much as I want s-off again, I've accepted that it won't work for me after trying many times. Many of us will get new phones within a year and how limited, are you really, by not having s-off? You might be limited by the number and types of roms you can install, but ultimately I personally think most people just want s-off to feel like they have full control over their phone. In my case, I never really did much with it that I couldn't do with s-on. I'm happy with the roms I do have access to and HTC has been pretty good with support. I think we should let beaups be and focus on more important things in our lives. If someone else finds a new exploit, then great! But at this point, I'm getting tired of seeing people beating a dead horse. Just my opinion.
[One (M7) General] derekdauzat:
do you have the at&t variant?
[One (M7) General] rs1089:
I have the unlocked 32gb which has the same model number as the at&t variant (PN07120)