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[Droid RAZR M Android Development] allenrb2:
which is going to be better as a daily driver this one, or the JB?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] levizx:
Personally I would not recommend anything above 4.2.2/CM10.1 at this stage.

It's fine if you want a test drive, and it's stable enough to be a daily driver.

But it's not as fast and feature-complete. Unless you desperately want the new things (ART etc),

you might have to wait for a while (after official kk for RAZR M/HD) before KitKat roms really take off.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] motoroid7:
I don't know, I prefer the 4.4 ROMs over 4.2. Personally faster for me. It's just right now if people want a lot of features there aren't going to be as many in 4.4 as there are for 4.2, though that will change. It's only because obviously JB has been out longer, but honestly feature-wise things are catching up.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] allenrb2:
flashing kitkat, because jb was force close city, hopefully its stable
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] levizx:
KitKat is buggier than JB4.2 with our dated kernel/driver, that's a fact. For me the banding issue is a showstopper, period. Feature-wise, I do agree it's getting better, but we live in the moment don't we? Like I said, it's cool if you use it just to test it out, you might even be of help to the devs in identifying bugs.

But if you are asking the question "should I use this as my daily driver", the answer is probably no, otherwise you wouldn't be asking the question in the first place.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] allenrb2:
the kitkat rom seems to be running ok so far
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] allen_ho:
I found the KK nightly as the same path on GOO.im for JB, is it the same team working on?

http://goo.im/devs/carbon/xt907/nightly/
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
We are no longer using goo.im. I might've missed a nightly job, I'll doublecheck.

Edit - perhaps someone already fixed it... uploads are going to our new mirror.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] allenrb2:
Is there an error with the reported signal in the battery options? Cell standby shows very high percentage time without signal, upwards of %50. On stock based roms I have never seen more than %1 time without signal.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Is that version confirmed to work...?

There was a bug with TWRP, I think it's fixed now... but was only pushed a few days ago. Factory reset wouldn't even work! So I suppose you don't experience that bug...

At any rate, make sure you also give it plenty of time to boot. Sometimes a fsck process is ran on the partitions, and this can greatly increase boot time.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
If your on the 4.4.2 OTA, this ROM WILL NOT WORK. You would need to downgrade to 4.1.2.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
I didn't even think about that, since my phone will never get 4.4.2 from Moto....

This is true, if you folks are on the official KK OTA, you need to downgrade to 4.1.2 before flashing any of these ROM's.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] xKroniK13x:
What if we then flash a custom kernel, like your arrrghhh kernel? Would that be fine? Or is it an issue with the bootloader? I don't mind downgrading, but I intend on trying out a new kernel as well, so if I can kill two birds with one stone, even better. :good:
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] ATTACK:
Full downgrade.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] cheezzzz:
hey mad props to the carbon team!

have been looking for a rom to use as my daily driver and this has seem to be fit really well.

what i seek in a rom and ive found in carbon is:

stability - so far only 1 freeze and that's when a call came in and the screen couldnt wake and kept vibrating rhythmically.

battery friendly - 1 of the best of the KK customs. i love profiles, to toggle 2G and 3G

functions - almost everything works!

i flashed from 4.1.2 stock to the 2306 nightly fyi
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
I am running the nightly from 20140628, and the only issues I have found are the well known screen dim on wake and the skipping in playing MP3's. The last one appears to be possibly getting worser. Does anyone know somewhere I could maybe pass on an MP3 that may help the devs resolve this issue?

Because I couldn't wait, I have also applied the new android L like nav bar icons. I stole then from an APK made for the nexus http://nexus7.wonderhowto.com/how-to/get-android-ls-navigation-bar-your-nexus-running-4-0-0155901/
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Any logs from the MP3 skips?

I certainly don't experience this, but I don't have a RAZR M.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
I have logs created and stored automatically on every boot, and it would be no problem to provide these, but nothing is crashing, so I would of thought the logs wouldn't have anything of value. I snapshot last_kmsg, dmesg & logcat and keep the logs for 10 boots (ie I always have the last ten reboots in case I have a random crash). I'll attach them tonight when I am back at my home. Also, this is apparently a "CyanogenMod" known issue, as I have looked in the forums for my old device (XPeria Ray) and they have the same issue and speak about it as if it was a known issue (ie its across different devices).

EDIT: Actually, if you are interested, as it always occurs to the same songs at the same locations, I will try to create a snippet MP3 that has the issue, and send it to you if you want?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
The following are the logs generated by an init script which runs during every boot (and keeps the last ten). I played some MP3 that skipped, then rebooted to get the logs.

Basically its a

cat /proc/last_kmsg
dmesg
logcat -d
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Soooo have you tried on CM? Is it the same issue?

Also, CM is now going to the KK bootloader/modem setup so I will no longer be able to maintain Carbon for this device...
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] hackeruti:
What's the difference between the old boot loader/modem setup besides it being kk? Anything I should prep for my phone?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
If you want to run the newer CM builds (or any custom ROM that depends on the newer setup), you just need to be on the latest bootloader/firmware stock from Motorola (KitKat).

Once you have that setup, you can flash the latest ROM's which use this new bootloader/kernel/modem configuration.

Carbon will not support this new format, at least not officially. Someone will hopefully pick it up unofficial.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] hackeruti:
Alright I'll look into that. Any idea if the new firmware is backwards compatible?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
I would think it would not be, at all.

[4.4.2][183.46.10.XT907]RSD Flashable Firmware

If you're on 4.4 bootloader/modem/kernel, you can only flash ROM's which have updated to this new paradigm.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] St.Noigel:
[MENTION=420530]arrrghhh[/MENTION] is CarbonROM still on 3.0 JB kernel or going to 3.4 KK?

I can`t find any information on Gerrit (((
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Abstractionist:
Flashed latest nightly and got stuck on blank screen after bootlogo. Same wth dirty and clean flash. :(
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Guys, see my post like 3 posts up.

Carbon is no longer going to support the moto_msm8960 device, as I have a Photon Q and cannot support this new paradigm from CM/Moto.

XT897 will soon become its own (somewhat) unified device again, and I will maintain for that.

Thanks, it's been fun folks. Hopefully someone starts building an unofficial - I can't in good conscious support a device (or 4+) blindly.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Abstractionist:
Oh... Damn...

Thank you for making this ROM best for our moto_msm8960 family, i've ever flashed!

Btw, if you will make another ROM for PhotonQ, can i flash it to my XT905? I don't have KitKat update too. :D
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
You will get the KK update tho, which is the difference between your device and mine.

I don't think I'll be supporting other devices anymore, not sure how I can really.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
Didn't have the latest pure CM zip handy (with 3.0 kernel), but tried a fresh install of Carbon(30/6) and had the same problem with selected MP3's. I then tried a clean install of Pac ROM, and it too has the exact same issue with selected MP3's.

I noticed that a nightly for 1st of July was available for download, but has gone. Is this the one you flashed? is the nightly from 20140701 a abd build that should not be flashed?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] thewraith420:
Arrrghhh, would it be possible for you to still support the jb bootloader xt907s? Everyone is jumping ship to the kk bootloader and there's still those of us on page plus who can't use the new firmware. It'd be nice if at least one rom remained

Tapatalk'n it from my XT907 (MoKee 4.4.4) on Page Plus Cellular.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
You guys should eventually get the new setup... unlike my Q, which is guaranteed to not get it.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] thewraith420:
Well the problem is we can take the update but the ics radio won't talk with Kitkat, I think it's something they changed in the kernel but it's just a guess. Without the ics radio we have no way to program the phone to page plus all the newer ones won't take the programming

Tapatalk'n it from my XT907 (MoKee 4.4.4) on Page Plus Cellular.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] cheezzzz:
im on the 20140623 nightly build,

noticed a few issues.

after listening to a song and plugging out my earphones, the device is muted. slept past my alarm thank God i wasnt late for work.

the other is that usually my cursor/location on Google maps is insanely accurate(on stock), moving as i drive in real life but now its only stuck and to see my newly updated location ive to close it n open again.

any advice guys?

apart from that this rom has been smoooth.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] speye007:
Need some help have just installed the new nightly and now phone won't boot...

Any assistance would be helpful.

Nice ROM just pity it won't boot :crying:
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Which one did you install? Also, are you on the KK bootloader or JB?

This ROM is for the JB bootloader, and has actually stopped development for the moto_msm8960 on July 1. June 30th is the last available version, again for the JB 4.1.2 bootloader / 3.0 kernel / etc.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] speye007:
I installed the KK over 4.1.2 with Philz all worked fine until the phone said there was an update so I let the phone do is thing and it installed then once it rebooted it started then it went to black screen with no access to the phone at all :crying:

I'm a bit of a noob with this phone.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
You probably need to go back to 4.1.2 with RSD and update officially, or if there is a FXZ file for KK then just RSD to 4.4.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] speye007:
I'm a noob on this phone I generally ROM Samsung's and I found this phone (905) so hard to even get to recovery let alone get the ROM on so I have a

Couple of questions:

1: How do I get back to 4.1.2 & RSD?

2: Could you assist with the steps to complete this ?

Cheers and thank you in advance.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] xKroniK13x:
Boot loader must be unlocked. From 4.4.2, run Towel Root and the motopocalypse apk. Restart and confirm unlock. Then... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2786016

Sent from my RAZR M (CM Nightlies) from Tapatalk Pro.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] whizinc:
HELP

i am going to install this rom on my Droid Razr M XT907 which is on official Kitkat 4.4.2 update..

my question is will I be able to install this rom on unlocked bl? and please tell me that if this rom is stable or not? or it has bugs? if it has bugs then please mention them. I will be very greatful if anyone helps me thanks.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] xKroniK13x:
Same response as earlier in a different thread...

You need to read and read again before you flash something. It says everywhere it HAS to be an unlocked boot loader. If you install the nightly ROM, yes it has bugs. Also you will need to follow the instructions above to RSD back to JB, as this ROM uses the JB bootloader.

Sent from my RAZR M (CM Nightlies) from Tapatalk Pro.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] whizinc:
what kind of bugs? major bugs? or light bugs? i use skype alot so i just cant bear mic issues. please tell me if that if this rom is worth for it because i will work on it for a long time so if the rom aint worth it then it'll be a problem :) please help :)

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and if there's a bug free rom for droid razr m then please let me know
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] argedion:
So far I have only one minor irritant with the rom and that is when I first turn on the screen it tells me that clock has unfortunately stopped. That is the only issue of concern that I have with this ROM. Only other thing is that the OTA does not work for me. It downloads but does not install (using TWRP 2630) But I'm not concerned with it to much.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] jb14813:
Does GPS work on latest version I'm having issues on cm11 with my GPS.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Please see my posts a few pages back.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53859288&postcount=193f

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=53876712&postcount=198
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
The "latest" version of carbon is on the JB bootloader, while the latest of CM11 is on the KK bootloader. So to use carbon, you would need to downgrade the bootloader.

I am on the JB bootloader and running the last release of carbon on an XT905. The GPS works very well, and I get a cold lock outdoors in a few seconds. I can even get a solid lock inside my apartment with the blinds closed.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Indeed. There's also a new device at CM11, moto_msm8960_jbbl.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=54553631&postcount=405

I've built Carbon using these trees, and will resurrect the device. Just need to sort out this roomservice issue and it should build on the new bi-weekly schedule!

Edit - done.

You must be running the old 4.1.2 JB bootloader setup - this is basically for folks who can't upgrade to the new KK bootloader from moto for whatever reason.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
OK, weird thing happened... I had some issues with my SD Card (it's my old 32GB one), so I ran an fsck on it, and I am not sure if it was directly after this or before, but I noticed that some of the files had switched / taken up the wrong file name. eg, song A was actually Song B. Weird :eek:. I was going to repartition and reformat the card (its a single EXT4), but firstly was lazy, so simply deleted and recopied all the files back onto the phone using a virtualised Ubantu 32b on Windows 7 64b. AAAnd I have recently noticed, that these steps appear to have corrected the MP3 file skipping. I have no idea how or why, but since doing the above, the skipping/jumping has ceased :fingers-crossed:. I also previously had the exact same problem with a different 4GB SD Card, and i also think it was happening with my 64Gb sd card. So it appears it has been something to do with my SD Card. Sorry for any confusion stress or time wasted.

Can't wait to try it.:D and the new kernel.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Johneedoe:
24 hours and the only thing I've noticed is the usual screen dimming issues on the msm8960_jbbl 0802 build. The battery life is decent so far but it will probably improve after another day or so. I use my phone pretty hard all day and with stock I would only get about 8 hours on a charge if I was lucky and that definitely wasn't cutting it. GPS, WiFi, Bluetooth and mic all work with no problem.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
I have been running the version from 8th Aug 2014 since Friday, and it seems to be going well.

I performed a dirty flash over the top of the 30th June (or was the 1st July the last JB BL...) release and also flashed the latest Arrrghhh kernel, and to my surprise its all running well. I have an XT905 from Australia, and there has been no KitKat ROM released as yet for us, so we are basically stuck on JB BL until then or someone has the guts to try flashing an XT907 KK Stock ROM or something onto our hardware (NB: there is someone on this board who has flashed a stock Aus XT905 ROM onto their XT907). Hopefully not to sound ungrateful in the least, but to be honest, but I haven't really noticed any changes/fixes since the 30th June build. I would say the previous build was that good.

Same old screen dimming issue, as expected, and as with my last flash, I can't seem to get bluetooth working.

On my first test of internet data, it appears that I am getting better results (WiFi 2GHz & LTE/4G) than what I was getting on the previous flash, but that could also be due to network type changes out of the ROMs control.

I tried looking for the BlueTooth test build dhacker had previously made (from a thread search) but the link was dead; it was from July. I don't normally use bluetooth, but the one time I wanted to use it, it failed.

Just an idea, as it won't help me in any way and I do not understand how it will help others since the latest build doesnt appear to have any inherently induced bugs, but in the download section, should we have the OOOOOld builds from before the KK bootloader (ie 30 Jun and prior)?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
The old builds are gone...
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] allen_ho:
why take you guys so long to update your website?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Is there something specific you'd like to see updated, or are you just complaining in general?

Keep in mind, this isn't a job - we're doing this all for free, and in our free time. Some teams don't even have a website...
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] rahimali:
true and i've said it before as well, these devs take precious time out of their personal lives to do this work which they don't even get paid for. the least we users could do is be respectful and grateful to them. some of them don't even own the devices they develop for but only continue doing so because there is a demand for their work.

suppose they stopped doing what they were doing or maybe moved on to other devices? where would we be then?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] thewraith420:
I'm running the latest 8-11 nightly jbbl build and loving it! Thanks.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] hungln03:
Thank u!!

Thanks you for all !!
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] allen_ho:
sorry about my poor english, I mean, I eager to see the team has updated
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
Is it just me, i have done a few dirty flashes, but I think I also had the same issue on my last clean flash. What I find is that if I start a call with my headphones on (with built in microphone), most times, I will not be able to hang up the call:confused: If I pull out the headphones, I will then have no problems ending the call ie pressing the big red button with a phone on it, at the bottom of the screen

and lets not forget the donate buttons...
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] bimobae:
Best rom,lot a features and no major bugs :o :good:
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] Outta:
how is wifi and speaker phone on this? workiing?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] howtodoo?:
audio playback error

so i cleaned flashed the rom and it runs great except for after flashing music played back 1 time through bt speaker i have in my room and then started giving me the music play back error msg. cant get music to play at all now. any suggestions ?
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
Just a share for others. When I have flashed from a clean install of the ROM, I notice that the "Memory Settings" are set to a very aggressive level. I first noticed it a few months back when I was using navigation with Apollo playing in the background. Apollo would stop for no logical reason. I then came across the memory settings and noticed how harsh the defaults were. Ever since then, whenever I do a clean flash, I change the settings to something a little less "kill happy" (and to reset on boot). I just thought I would mention it, in case others may wish to review the default settings themselves.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
I have noticed this going on for a while. When I have my headphones plugged in and take or make a call, I can't hang up the call, until I unplug my headphones.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
So hitting the 'end call' button does nothing?

I didn't use traditional headphones on my Q much, just bluetooth stuff.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
The "End Call" button does not even display that it has been pressed. This lack of response will occur with both the hands free headphones supplied with the phone with a mic, and also with standard music headphones plugged in. I have to unplug the headphones and then press the "End Call" button to end the call. Its a little funny when I am on a call with a corporate who has been specifically told to not hang up on the client, and wait for them to end the call.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Never heard of this. Happens on a clean flash?

We're about to kill KK nightlies anyways... hopefully I can look into this and get it fixed before we do the final release of KK.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] rahimali:
:angel:

Does that mean what i think it might mean? :) LP?

Sorry for going OT :angel:
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
I have a lot of adjustments in the ROM; including your OC'd kernel. On the weekend, I'll do a backup and run a clean flash and test if it still happens, and let you know.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
Did the flash, and tried a few calls to voicemail, and was NOT able to repeat the issue. Sorry, must be some app or mod I made to the ROM. :o

I was actually previously 1 build behind the latest, so in the end, after restoring my previous state, I did another dirty flash. :cowboy: and just did a quick test, and I was able to hang up with my headphones on. Its possible that a call recorder app I had installed (which defaulted to recording every cal) may of been related / a cause. I tripped over the dest directory and then realized it had been automatically recording every call. I have now also turned that off. Sorry for any trouble, from now, I'll wait until I can duplicate any issue on a clean flash.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Call recording got merged into Carbon a while ago I thought?

Like native call recording...
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] DiamondJohn:
Maybe, but these recorded calls were specifically within this 3rd party app.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
I'm just letting you know there's no need to install a third party app :) (especially if it's causing issues!)
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] baiggee2:
wifi tethering is not working as well... :/
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Works great here.

Have you done a full wipe? Which nightly are you on? Have you tried other nightlies? What happens? Any logs?!?

You need to give me more to work with if you expect help.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] mega_man:
anyhope for lollipop being made on jbbl devices ? [MENTION=420530]arrrghhh[/MENTION]
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] arrrghhh:
Hopefully. We'll see.
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] baiggee2:
yeah thanx for guiding, the latest nightly resolves the issue :)
[Droid RAZR M Android Development] :
Ah, yesss... Stock Kit Kat was choke full of bugs, glad I jumped the ship. WiFi problem is from the bootloader itself as the problems are the same on both stock and custom OS. Now... Let's see how it turns out.