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[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] radeon962:
Phones under contract prior to February 2, 2014 were grandfathered in at the $15/mo price. Phones under a new 2 year contract after February 2, 2014 are $40 unless BYOD or NEXT.

NEXT is actually a viable option now as you are not paying for the device and then paying again as part of your monthly charge.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] redrover69:
Correct. I haven't figured out the math for Down the road. Does it pay to save now until you need or want a new device?? Or just pay the 95 extra per month by leaving my plan as is.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] J2DAe:
So its not much of a good deal either way. Once my lines upgrade we will only be saving 30 a month from the 10gb plan . Total of about 55 per line! We were only paying 58-60. So thanks for the 3 dollars off per line . Stay classy at&t
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] boypinoy18:
how does this benefit my situation? (2 grandfathered unlimited data plans at $30 a piece under a family plan). all of the posts i read in this thread cover those on mobile shared plans. in my case, we have two separate data plans with shared minutes

2 x $30 unlimited data plans

family talk (700 minutes) = $60 + $10 (for additional phone)

$30 for family messaging unlimited

= $160 per month

one contract ends January 2015, the other contract ends November 2015

i've always been under the impression of keeping the unlimited plans (which may be an older school of thought with the recent at&t promotions) but my data is throttled after 3GB+, so for me it's worthless after that point. also, to clarify, i'm pretty clear on what the promotion entails after reading, but i'm unclear on the benefit of locking down this plan with what i've got so far. maybe because i'm slow :(

any insight? much appreciated!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] RiPpeR_dUdE:
I was in the exact same situation and didn't initially believe I could save money. After talking with the store Mgr. here's how my final bill ended up.

- x2 phones with shared 10Gb data - $100

- x2 phones with unlimited text and voice - $15ea totaling $30 for both without contract

- 10Gb data plans and higher automatically get tethering enabled

- Existing contract was waived, so no longer under contract with AT&T. Although if I purchase a new phone under contract, the $15 per phone goes up to $40, so you'd lose the discount...

Total monthly cost is now $130; savings of $30 a month. Additionally, my 22% discount is now applied to the $100 base (data) cost rather than my primary voice line ($60) which results in additional savings.. roughly my bill before taxes is right at $108 a month.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] boypinoy18:
i can see the cost changes, i was looking more for the "yay or nay" on losing the unlimited data plan.

3 points: tethering is enabled under this plan, discount applied to base, and no contract. these justify a change for me. TY!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] RiPpeR_dUdE:
Although I had unlimited data plans for both phones, I personally never used more than 10Gb so was a no brainer for me.... obviously, for those who use more than 10Gb, you'd either need to keep what you have or choose a higher data base to fit what you normally use.

Either way, its not a bad deal considering you get any existing contract waived and is why you end up with the huge discount per phone.... $40 vs $15.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] boypinoy18:
out of curiosity, how did you burn 10GB? I can never pass 2-3GB before I would get throttled down to unusable speeds. this is the main reason switching sounds enticing because I could NEVER win the '"unlimited data" with throttling' argument with at&t customer service reps.

and in my case, i never paid $40 per phone when i paid for the subsidized cost of the phone at the time the contract was signed.

also, how does this fare when you do need to upgrade your phone down the line? paying $600-800 upfront or enrolling in the next program will just drive the monthly cost up back to where i started. thoughts?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] RiPpeR_dUdE:
I never used 10Gb which is why I had no problem switch plans... if you purchase a subsidized phone or use NEXT, the $15 per month cost per phone goes up to $40. Basically, AT&T is trying to get you off contract and awarding you the discount for "Bring Your Own Device".
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] boypinoy18:
i know you said you never used MORE than 10GB, what I essentially asked is how you got past 3GB without getting throttled.

and by the way, i think the cost is $15 if a phone is purchase through NEXT or BYOD or pay full retail. otherwise, $40
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] BOOMER_SOONER:
My understanding is that if you're plan is 15gb or more u receive $25 discount from the $40 for each smartphone and 15$ for 10gb.

I too dont see how there is a discount really when if u use the next plan the discount is at best equaling your monthly installment so its still costing $40 per smartphone. My GS3 was on an older contract so its only $15, I just upgraded girlfriend to new iphone and the next plan payment equals the discount so im still paying $40 for her line. Seems like a number game to me.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] rob219:
cool, i was payingi just upgraded to the 10gb plan myself $120 for unlimited talk and text and 4gb data. i get $10 off plus a 15% student discount so
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] YrrchSebor:
I'm a brand new AT&T customer, brought in a Note 3 and an iPad Mini that i both already had, and got 10 GB for 100, plus 15 for the Note and 10 for the iPad, no contract, hotspot included.

Just wanted to warn folks tho to check your account online, if you don't already do that. I had 2 things that i did not want added to my acount by 2 different stores. If I didn't monitor my account online perhaps I would be screwed in 14 days and bound to contracts that I didn't want. Probably just bad luck or bad karma lol but I look forward to enjoying the service from here on in.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Htc1er:
I'm gonna say that it is a good thing. I took advantage of it. I went from paying for 3 lines @ 290/month to 260/month for 4 lines. The kicker was that I also got a galaxy tab 2, insurance on all 4 lines, beats audio app, and a 100 dollar credit on my next billing cycle. Just go in and tell them you want to know what it will do to your bill if you go for the new plan. I benefited.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] boypinoy18:
so threw some extra freebies your way? damn! i knew i should have gone in-store instead of switching online.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] NightHawkUndead:
Price difference from last month to now with new 10gb plan.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] redrover69:
The savings is GREAT!!!

Until you need or want a new device...then to keep the price the same you have to buy your phone out right either pay for it all up front or pay in installments (next plan)

Question is over the long run are you saving money if you have 5 lines???
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] bkeaver:
Short answer is probably yes if you only upgrade 1 device a year. If you upgrade multiple devices then probably not.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] woodsdog:
Adding lines

I've got a question I can't seem to figure out. I got my AT&T plan last year so I can move to the $100 for 10 GB plus $15 a line. This I get.

Now,I have three family members using AT&T phones on straight talk $45 (plus tax). If I move them to my plan,using their existing phones, what's that going to cost? I will want to upgrade the data amount of course, from 10 to 15 or 20 and that will change my $100 a month charge. What will their monthly fees be? I would think $15 for each, but I don't think this is right.

Anyone know or do something similar?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Rukbat:
If I understood the spiel, it's $40/line - $25/line for every line you had prior to February (2nd? Some time early in the monmth). The ones you move over from ST don't get the $25 discount - unless you speak to the retention department and get them to allow it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] aeo 37:
I like the whole mobile share plan, but the amount you need to pay monthly after the upgrading your phone, $45/line is a real turn off. If i was able to keep the $15/10GB or $15/25GB(?) after getting a new subsidize phone, I'd be all over this
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] hereisalex:
Not sure if this has been said...

...but AT&T's data prices are pretty consistent. For a few years I've been paying $50 for 5gb/month, then each additional gigabyte is $10. 10 gigabytes for $100 is the same price, you're just buying more. $10 per gigabyte.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] WIZARDfan:
Just got my first bill and it is humongous. Talked to rep and said it takes couple months to get in routine for $15 a line. Gave me a temporary credit to get through.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] AllTheWay:
That's incorrect. Trust me on that. ?

If you did an upgrade with a 2 year plan after February 2nd then the line is $40. How the bill should look is $40 for every line on a 10GB mobile share plan and then a $25 discount for each one of those lines. I would make sure they put you on the right mobile share value plan and that they didn't create two groups for you in the process.

There is also going to be pro-rated charges any time you make a plan change in the middle of your billing cycle.

It should not "take a couple of months" for you to get the discount.

---------- Post added at 04:29 AM ---------- Previous post was at 04:27 AM ----------

For them it would be $15 since they don't have a contract with those lines.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] redrover69:
OK so heres what I came up with:

I have 5 phones I have mobile share 10gb.

My bill before tax is: $270 per month.

120 for the plan and $30/phone. $6480 gross of tax

IF I go to next my lines are all in. I have 4 in contract 1 not in contract. ATT will change them all to NEXT so my bill will be

$100 for 10gb and $15/phone. =$175/month

So Current plan with buying lets say 5 iphone5s at 200 would cost me over 24 months: $7480

If I go with next and dont ever get another phone my cost is $4200...HUGE savings right???

Now the kicker...IF I want new phones: (assuming I want 5 iphone 5s)

Keeping the current plan would CHANGE from $30/month per phone to $40/month...so over 24 months $7680 + $1000 (for 5 phones)=$8680

Going to next:

I would get 5 phones $32.50/month (Cost of the new phones) over 20 months=$3250

$100 per month service over 24 months=$2400

$15 per month per phone for use of service over 24 months=$1800

Totalling $7450 over 24 months

SO all of this is gross of taxes. So on top of that I would save on taxes as well. It looks like over a 24 month period with 5 lines I would save $30.00 over what I am paying now.

If I KEEP 2year contracted phones (my current plan and get upgrades) Im paying $1230 more.

Someone correct me if Im wrong...but if I never get a new phone Im saving roughly $95.00 per month gross of tax...until I need new phones...

HMMMM
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alhadee12:
I got my credit right away. I also received an email saying they lowered my bill.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] WIZARDfan:
I have four lines with 10 GB data plan and the bill was supposed to be about $160. But it came out to about 265. Calld customer care and they said it takes couple billing cycles and the now my bill is down $112. it was a good customer service.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alhadee12:
Did the bill show where the charges were coming from for the $105?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] WIZARDfan:
That bill was the most confusing ever. But I believe they charged $40 per line. The rep did not even go through all the details. She just give me the credit. That was easy.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] redrover69:
DOES IT PAY TO SWITCH TO NEXT??? Anyone got time to see if my math is correct?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alhadee12:
I have the new plan with five lines and I think it's a great value giving that you can add additional phones up to 10 phones.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] iamolu:
In my opinion I would rather pay full price for my device and save on my monthly bill. The next program to me is not a smart move.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] XiphoneUzer:
I am gonna get my cop friend away from sprint and into this program :good:
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] redrover69:
The next program is the same difference as buying outright.

Next is 0% financing over 20months and no prepayment penalty.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alhadee12:
I agree, out just saves you some upfront money and lowers your out of pocket expenses considerably.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] redrover69:
Im just tryin to figure out in the long run whether it pays to switch or not.

I mean Im saving 95 a month in the short run until people on my account want new phones...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Rukbat:
There's just one other little thing to consider (And even though I've been searching for a few decades for the law that makes it legal, I can't find it):

If you're getting the $25/month discount, the taxes are calculated before the discount is applied, so you're paying tax on $40/line, not on $15/line. I always thought that tax was based on what you pay, not on some number they make up.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alhadee12:
I'm not sure how the taxes should be applied, but you could possibly look at another item you received a discount on and see how it was applied.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] redrover69:
That cant be right..they cant or shouldnt tax you on the full amount then discount you...$hit guess Ill have to call or do an online chat...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] LuckyColdJohnson:
I was grand fathered in with unlimited data...Paying 230 a month....

Just switched to this new plan and gave up the old plan....

Saving a lot now........Sweeeeeet. At&t I guess was getting pressure from Verizon and T-Mobile.

Good move At&t....Good move.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] lyrad12:
$100 = 10GB unlimited call and text

$15 = Samsung Galaxy S 2

$15 = Samsung Galaxy S 3

$15 = Samsung Galaxy Note 3

$35 = ATT Next (Note3)

$ -15.00 military discount

I end up paying $168.98 including tax!

wohooo!
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] BR7fan:
I'm gonna have to check in to that. My bill for 3 phones has been $265 for the last 3 months. I'm on that share plan as well.

EDIT

Called and got it taken care of.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Rukbat:
It's not only cellphone companies. I remember being angry abou this back when Nixon was president, so it started a long time ago. Tax is charged on the full price before any discount. Now I've worked WITH a large city tax department, but never FOR one, so I don't know if anyone's ever done a study to see if the tax money turned in is the tax before the discount or the tax after the discount, but knwing how government works from the inside, I'd bet that adding all the money the major cities in the US are losing by collecting the tax money after discount would pay off a major portion of the national debt, if not all of it. Thank if how much a 5% tax on a 10% discount on 10% of what Walmart sells amounts to every day. Probably more than they pay in health benefits for their employees (which, AFAIK, is about the same as the Martian annual government expenditure, if you don't count the executives.)
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] iamolu:
I am back with another great news for my folks like me that send lots of international text message from United States. AT&T now offer free international text message from unitrd states and 50gb cloud storage with mobile share plan. Call and get this feature added. I was trying to post a link but couldn't. ...go to www.androidpolice.com the info is there
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Why0Why:
We had a 10GB plan with 6 smartphones and this saved us $100/month. Really great. Of course no phone subsidies, but worth it, IMHO.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alpinesun:
This was an awesome change. I was waiting for something good to give up my unlimited data, But between 3 people (one being my mom and the other is my wife who's always on wifi in Mountain View), 10gb is more than enough. Especially now that I saved 80 dollars plus get wifi tethering included. So I don't have to fiddle with these rooted methods. I think AT&T made a good preemptive move before they started losing customers to T mobile, despite how poor their coverage may be. I've never really been a disgruntled nor happy customer, but now I can claim happiness.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] alhadee12:
I like the change as well. I tried T-Mobile and my coverage was horrible outside my home area.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] DaNg13:
Regret after change

You all will regret when your current phone is old and you have to buy new phone at full price without subsidize; even with At&t Next the added up price is still way expensive compare to subsidize price. This plan only work for those data hunger. Be caution! Good move At&t ...
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] 1Zero3forlife:
Actually, that is not correct, AT&T is not doing this for anything above 10GB, they said it will be $15 no matter what to compete with T Mobile and Verizon.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] double07:
For the period of two years term comparison, the share plan is still less than the subsidized plan in my case. I don't think it is for everyone. I much preferred the share plan. Tethering also comes standard with this plan which is great.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] joshparr:
This plan has worked out well for me. My brother and I were doing a 6GB share plan before they added 10GB plan change. We switched over and it dropped our bill by $30. We then added another person to it and we were able to drop what we each pay down to $48 a piece. Get a discount on AT&T service through my work which helps too. On the phone upgrade side I usually wait 4-6 months after a phone is released anyway, this just gives me added reason to. Doing the wait also allows me to get one on eBay at a decent price because there is always people who don't like their phones and sell them at a discount. That's how I got my Note 3 after upgrading to the 10GB plan.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] c-prodigo:
Well this is different for everyone, depends on everyone needs, I for example still have unlimited data, and a family shared plan but not sharing data, right now am paying 228 dollars a month, in a month I use arround 12 gb average, that even with at&t slowing down my data after 5gb. My wife, kids, mother in law. Hardly use the 3 gb they have allowed, so aT&t wanted me to get the 20gb a month, so I could save what, arround 18 dollars a month, and I was thinking on doing it, until I found out, that if I upgrade anyof those lines to a subsidized smartphone, instead of 15 for each additional line it would be ( 40 ). so lets see 210 a month that seemed less now add up 25 more, I have 5 lines that would be 125 + 210 = 335. But no choose the next plan, okay so how much will that be? 27 additionall for each line so again 27 x 5 =135. So 135 + 210 wow now I would pay monthly 345 dollars. Eh no AT&T thanks but hell no. I will keep using my unlimited data and stay on 228 a month, oh and I updated 2 lines to the note 3 refurbished when it was on 100.00 (stupid me) a few days later the took it down to free. But I still got two more updates in october and december, at that moment I will see if the note 4 is a good buy, and I will pay 300 one time, and I will keep paying 228 a month. AT&T will say, well sir with next you don't have to put 300 down at the moment, but I rather paying 300, one time, than raising my bill to 350. I will then sell my current note 3 on ebay, and that will bring my 300 dollars back.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Hoshneer:
I guess I don't understand why you guys are complaining. You can still get contract phones on the new family share plan right?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] Evilspawn:
Yes u can but then your bill goes up. These new plans are structured for the next program
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] 1Zero3forlife:
According to the gut at AT&T yesterday, if you do not go on the next plan, and you choose the 10gb plan or higher, it is $15 per phone always, even new customers are getting that cost.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] chn110:
was on next plan but don't feel it's a good deal for single line with moderate data usage. cancel it and switched to tmobile $30 for 5gb. great lte speed and coverage is not bad in my area. going to stick with it.
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 General] srtpusher:
Don't ever buy subsidized phone if you are under this plan.

An s5 would end up costing $800. $200 upfront and you lose the $25 discount on that line.

However if you do the next 18 you would pay $450 at the 18 month mark. And then they are basically forgiving the last $200. If you can get more than $200 then sell it and pay off your next plan. Most phones aren't worth $200 after 18 mos.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] sam@xda29:
hello guys,

I have one S4 of my friend but unfortunetely the screen bricked due to falling on tiles.

well... he want to get the data which is in phone memory.

He searched in the market for a new screen but it is not available .

So now How can we help that guy to get those DATA.

can we use ADB?

Reply soon.

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NewComer68:
Hi,

I encounter exactly the same broken screen issue and I need your help to recover my data (contacts, SMS, etc) on my phone memory... As I cannot unlock the phone, I cannot access it through my computer. Thanks.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] construidor:
not sure if it help but, If only the screen bricked, you can use the hdmi (mhl), plug the phone in a monitor and unlock it, also plug a keyboard and mouse using otg.

But if you need both at the same time, probably the only solution will by a dock station.
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] NewComer68:
I've neither connected with MHL, nor used with keyboard and mouse... That's a idea that I will try. I will let you know if it works.... Thanks alot.
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] StefanoLambelet:
will cyanogenmod ever update their roms to be compatible with the new touchwiz 4.4.2 bootloader?

has this ever happened before with any other phone and what did they do?

thanks in advance
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jaythenut:
yeah there working on it now
[General Questions and Answers] kgarg:
I have built the CWM Recovery using the builder from this website builder.clockworkmod.com . But when I flashed the recovery and booted into it it showed me nothing but a blank screen the only way to come out from that was pulling the battery. BTW I am using a Broadcom BCM23550 phone with Android 4.2 . Is there any solution for this?
[General Questions and Answers] kgarg:
Is there anyone who can help me?
[General Questions and Answers] johnnyflex:
i think we have the same problem. my cwm 6.0.3.7 is not loading. only a blank page with the text cwm 6.0.3.7 below the page. please help us!!!
[General Questions and Answers] korbu83:
I have updated phone to this version and now my google aplication are not working. Anyone know how to fix this?
[General Questions and Answers] 0robreid0:
GApps

Flash a new gapps.zip via TWRP recovery.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] j3ssejamez:
Hello,

I have an At&t LG G2 D800 and I am trying to downgrade from D80010o to D80010d so that i can install twrp with loki. I successfully rooted the phone but i am unable to get past the firmware upgrade in download mode it just stays at 0%. And since I can't get past the update, it won't let me change the COM port of to 41. Could someone help me? Thanks.

Edit: Nevermind, Its supposed to do that.