yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Verizon LG G2] kallell:
Over hyped? Tell that to the ****ing 20+ people who need to RMA their phones...and those who no longer have a warranty Seriously, what a ****ing stupid comment.
[Verizon LG G2] simpsonr:
If folks report a hardware failure on their device, how is that "over hype"? It's just stating a fact. That comment is dangerous, irresponsible and just plain ignorant.
[Verizon LG G2] tacosrdelicioso:
Honestly, way more than 20+ people use these Roms. Very small minority. Something obviously triggered a fault in your displays. Not the fault of the devs or the source, especially since it is such a small minority that have an issue that 98% of users cannot replicate no matter how much they try. Not that it's ever the fault of the devs. You are solely responsible for everything you do. I don't mean to be crude, these are facts

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Well I mean the severity of the issue seems to be over hyped. Referring to the very small percentage of users. All I'm saying
[Verizon LG G2] simpsonr:
Clearly that's subjective. Folks who are reporting the issue on their devices are right to do so. Given that, where is the over-hype coming from? If you have 20 users all reporting this issue and are seeking a solution... is that over hype? Who's doing the over hyping here? I've got to imagine you'd think differently about wanting attention to be given to this issue if your device was added to the mix.

Generally speaking things get over hyped when their virtues (good things) are over sold. In this case, this issue is certainly no virtue, it's a problem that crosses ROMs and more people every day are seeing it and more devs are reverting their code. I'm curious... given the notion that you think it's over-hyped... what would your take be? Let it ride? Let the chips fall where they may? Would you suggest that users should not report this or suggest that devs ignore it? What in any of this constitutes "over hype"?
[Verizon LG G2] tacosrdelicioso:
Well dr87 has reverted a commit that very well may have been the cause. Never know if everyone abandons ship. And if I had my screen broken, my opinion wouldn't change. I'm very logical, that's just how it is.
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
Sorry, if there's a risk of burning out my screen, I'll wait and see if it's been fixed first, I don't blame other people for doing the same, that's just common sense.
[Verizon LG G2] revolt1:
So the 28th is the latest that didn't have those issues correct
[Verizon LG G2] Azeolus:
I'm running Beta4 of the 24a ROM. I've noticed that double tap to sleep on the lockscreen is not working. Anyone else seeing this?

Edit: Ok, so it works when I only have swipe unlock enabled, but if I use a pattern the double tap to sleep stops working...
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
No, it was the first one with issues, you want the previous beta from earlier in May.
[Verizon LG G2] mulderato:
Wow. I stayed away from the thread for a week since Iwas the only person who updated that was seeing problems. Glad I reverted back to 5/15 with the quickness as soon as I did... Looks like all hell broke loose... I hate this has happened but glad I'm not the only one that sees issues. No black lounges for me but I did See the multicolored LG screen then got caught in a boot loop. It took flashing malladus then betas up to the 15th.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Thanks to the developers

Hey guys first off I want to say thanks to the developers for finally giving me the rom I been looking for. I stayed on 12b, and been looking for a way to get 24a. I finally found the xdabbeb way to upgrade to 24a, and by far my lg g2 works great just like as if it was on stock and out of the box, but I have a question.

I see there is an OTA feature. now when I download that will that feature ask me to go to the custom recovery or do I have to go there manually to install? Also would it be recommended to reinstall the gapps to or not necessary?
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
If you're running the 24A betas that bigshotrob22 has been posting, there is no OTA updating of them as of now.
[Verizon LG G2] :
thanks

I understand that there isnt any but when there are updates are they pushed out when they come or do i have to come here and download and put them on?
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
You need to download them here, I would assume once the 24A base makes it to the nightlies, you'd be able to use OTA to get them.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Awesome thanks again mjones73. I am excited to see this rom getting further in developement so far it works great.
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2773875 showed that the screen issues can occur even on stock-based rom or just taking OTA stock KK. Seems like it can occur any time you reboot as it can weed out the bad, flaky panels.
[Verizon LG G2] SikkNazty:
well you'd think a ROM with as much notice as it has would be semi-responsible at letting people know what is included in the package and what is not. especially when 90% of the other roms on this forum do so also. no where did i say i don't appreciate their work and service.
[Verizon LG G2] joewaz:
Come on.... Download section is down again... Wtf people get on top of shiznit
[Verizon LG G2] imucarmen:
i would guess that the reason its down is because they are trying to update things and rework the current setup. I don't know this for sure but because it's been down so much lately for me it's a good guess that they are working on things.

not sure whats with all the weird comments on here but come on people. this is all free! these guys do this as a hobby and they owe us nothing. lets enjoy the releases and not complain about nonesene. no bashing here just concerned about the attitudes that appear to be coming across.

This is my DD atm and I love feature packed roms and even with this missing some features it's still the best rom we have atm imo. There is just something about carbon that does it for me and so far no other roms do the same...keep em coming carbon devs, you do an amazing job with this rom and as I've said before this is my favorite rom compared to all others. THANKS!!!
[Verizon LG G2] srsaloom:
Has anyone had success getting transparent nav/status bars?

Running the Feb14 nightly.
[Verizon LG G2] imucarmen:
i havent downloaded the 14th version yet but transparent bars works for me in the 12th and 13th versions
[Verizon LG G2] srsaloom:
Were there any specific steps to enable it?

For the life of me, I can't seem to find a way to do so? :eek:
[Verizon LG G2] monkee012:
awesome!

Downloading it and in the middle of installing. Excited! Hats off to the Carbon rom team!
[Verizon LG G2] :
Their oust on the site about his they're getting a another server and such should be a clue ;)
[Verizon LG G2] imucarmen:
No. It's part of KitKat.
[Verizon LG G2] t3project:
2-15 seems to be running flawlessly for me so far!
[Verizon LG G2] imucarmen:
see anything new in the 15th version? They haven't updated the change log yet. The 13th and 14th are running good for me though I have had a reboot on 14 a couple hours ago.
[Verizon LG G2] philsfan:
2/15 is a perfect rom. haven't had any issues whatsoever with furnace and viper4android installed.
[Verizon LG G2] steelersmb:
Are you using any custom settings for Furnace?

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The only bug I have found so far is that the proximity sensor doesn't always work when on a phone call. Sometimes I have to press the on button to turn the screen on during a phone call. Is there a fix for this?
[Verizon LG G2] philsfan:
Proximity sensor is an issue with every aosp ROM at this point and likely won't be 100% fixed until lg releases KitKat.

My furnace settings: mp decision off, Eco mode on, intelliplug on, undervolted -25 across the board, and intelliactive governor. Intellidemand seems slightly better for battery tho
[Verizon LG G2] imucarmen:
Not sure if you made any optimizations but the latest version seems to be running slightly smoother than the previous versions. I haven't ran it long enough yet to know how stable it is but so far it's running very well

Build o21614
[Verizon LG G2] sk1pmcgee:
LCD Density

Is LCD Density Option in 2/15,it is not in 2/14

Thank you
[Verizon LG G2] tedkunich:
I see I am not the only one on the LG hate train these days....?. Of course I'm on the warpath because my two week old $2.5K refrigerator had already **** the bed. Lucky Goldstar - junk 30 years ago, still junk today. Grrrrr.

T
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
4.4 isn't supposed to drop until end of Q1.

You are correct, they need to get their priorities strait, they're too busy worrying about getting new phones out as opposed to supporting this. Until we get that kernel and access to the kdz files, we will continue to have the most sod issues out of all the devices for whatever reason.

Sent from my Vs980
[Verizon LG G2] tlp5002:
I'd like to try Carbon out. Coming from gr33nd3vil's CM rom.

What GApps are you all using?
[Verizon LG G2] evolishesh:
I hope this rom gets 4.4.3 source soon.. ?
[Verizon LG G2] :
I think right now they should be focused on 4.4.2 because not all devices are getting that update.

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Quick question I looked at the build I am using and it shows 6/1/14 build and everyone says the may 24 build is more stable than the newer but I haven't had any issues. What issues were people having
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
Black lines screen damage on few users
[Verizon LG G2] :
Is it a limited few?
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
Maybe twenty or so

Sent from my Vs980 running Xdabbeb's 24a v1.1.1
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
Yes
[Verizon LG G2] :
I have two extra LG g2s to test this. Friends of mine upgraded. I am going to test to see if I get same effect.
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
Yeah I saw that, he did flash a different kernel though, not stock.
[Verizon LG G2] :
They cant really blame rom on this issue? correct? I mean I did the same flashing on two other lg g2s last night and tried to get the effect and got nothing. My guess is people were over flashing some custom roms and over heated the phone or something because i flashed and reflashed like 7 times last night on both extra phones and still nothing. they both work great

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I am going to put a more in depth post of the detail of what happened when i was flashing non stop, and any effects I noticed doing so, and my opinion of what could be the issue. I really dont think its a rom issue. I know I am not very well known or active in the community just litterally starting out. I am going to base my opinion on what I believe after the research i did last night.
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
The heat only bothers the borderline panels and knowing the poor QC of today's tech, there are probably 5% of panels will show these lines from overheating related to use and flashing. AOSP roms do run 10 degrees Celsius hotter (35-40'C) than Stock based roms (25-30'C) at rest and can be hotter with gaming, flashing, downloading, customizing, etc.
[Verizon LG G2] mulderato:
The problem I was experiencing would defiantly feed into this. By my flashing that 5/25 build my cores all went wide open...4 running at full throttle non stop or would back down to about 50% but still even at rate.. 4 cores maintaining that... the heat build up was quick and intense.

I kept sitting mine in the refrigerator for a minute to cool it off between boot ups as I tried to find a solution before reverting back to a stock rom then flashing up to 5/15.
[Verizon LG G2] :
I am currently using 6/1 build anyone else having issues?
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
Nope, but since heat only affect 5% of the phones (borderline panels are the ones that'll fail), it's kinda hit and miss and not really predictable or easily reproducible.
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
What 6/1 build? Nightlies? Those are still built on the 12b baseband/source as far as I know.
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
6/1/14, 4.4.2 source, beta. I think he pulled it though after the "black lines" flared up. I can only find 5/28 beta that's downloadable currently.
[Verizon LG G2] :
i downloaded from the site where can i find the link for that?
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
He did mention he was going to stop the nightlies and switch back to 12b, wonder if he was building nightlies based on 24A now.
[Verizon LG G2] :
how do i check to see if i am on 24a?

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This is a a screen shot
[Verizon LG G2] UrbanBounca:
You're on 4.4.2, which is 24a.
[Verizon LG G2] :
thats what i downloaded from here, but i noticed an issue. I followed xdadd method about change the 12b to 24a, how do i check if that went through?
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
It even said VS98024A on the very first line of the screen shot so yes, you're on 24A which means 6/1/14 is the last 24A build of Carbon (until BigRob starts building again once he's comfortable with the screen damage issues)
[Verizon LG G2] :
I seen that just people were saying there isnt a build on here. I got it from the first post on here.
[Verizon LG G2] UrbanBounca:
Okay, so what are the current problems with Carbon? I was recently on C-RoM, and wouldn't mind a new taste.
[Verizon LG G2] :
I dont see or had any problems with this but the rare drop of the signal for a split second but i think its because of my area.
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
Nightlies are based on 24a unless he switched them back to 12b.

He did say he was pulling builds till the line issue gets situated.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Black Lines

Ok I heard the rumor and seen the post about the dreaded black lines and I decided to do some test on extra lg g2's that some friends let me borrow since they upgraded. Here are my results:

1) 1st LG G2 i kept on JB, and rooted and installed custom recovery (TWRP) with flashify. I then used Xdabbs method to update 24a, and installed CarbonRom 6/1/14 build just like on my phone and everything works great. No issues whats so ever. I even flashed it quite a few times ( 10 -11) times just to see what happens when it was over heating, and still nothing. Works like a charm and no issues whats so ever. I then installed other versions of 24a rom (beanstalk, and liquidsmooth), and again still no issues. I tested each rom by flashing the, quite a few times just enough where the phone starts over heating. I took the phone and reversed Xdabbs method and put the 12b back on and returned it back to stock, and its back to normal. Works like it did when it came out of the box the day it was opened.

Note: This phone came with 12b preinstalled

2) 2nd LG G2 I did a factory restore, and then updated to Kitkat, and rooted and installed custom recovery (TWRP) using autorec. This is where is becaming interesting, and I am not sure why. I made sure to do a nano backup because in the past when using autorec i had bootloops nearly all the time. I had three bootloosp till finally the last chance it didnt do it and it when to the stock rom. I transfered all the compatible 24a roms to my device and starting testing them same as above (10-11 flashes each) Using CarbonRom as the starter. It installed fine and had no issues. Nothing reported with that. Now I then installed Liquid smooth and for some reason it go to hot to touch at points. Installed beanstalk same thing and kept getting the hot to touch. Finally after installing them both a few times too see if i get the same effect still the same thing. Too hot to touch.

Note: This phone came with 11a preinstalled.

My opinion on what I am thinking may be occurring:

1) Any phones that had 11a or early installed may have been a defect and caused the over heating from non stop flashing roms, and then caused the dreaded black lines. It didnt over heat with the 12b preinstalled.

2) Continuing flashing roms like non stop daily to different multiple ones daily could cause this issue.

My honest opinion is this has nothing to do with the roms and more of the system itself. I did research on the internet and found nothing about any kind of software doing this besides viruses made to do this. Again this is just my opinion and I am not trying to upset anyone. Just figure I put my two cents in. Can't blame the roms because from what it seems its a small limited few and not a wide group of people..

Opinions and comments welcome.
[Verizon LG G2] jordanl17:
These are based on 24a ??:

https://carbonrom.org/downloads/?device=vs980&type=nightly
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
In would assume not considering bigshotrob22's post on the original android Dev carbon thread.

"Anybody thinking about flashing any 24a source built builds please note that it may leave your screen with permanent black streaks. So I have stopped nightlies until further notice. I dont want to chance messing up any more phones. Hopefully we can figure this out. Thanks."

So if they are pushing out night lies, they are more then likely 4.2 base.
[Verizon LG G2] :
So I have a 12b based or? It says 24a. Confused now
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
The nightlies stopped on the same day he made that post, I think he already switched them to 24A, you can see based on the screen shot up, 6/1 is a 24A based build.
[Verizon LG G2] :
I understand mine shows 24a anyway to confirm it was just luck of the draw
[Verizon LG G2] bigshotrob22:
May 30th and june 1st are 24a based.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Thanks bigshotrob22
[Verizon LG G2] :
Hey bigshotrob22. I have a quick question and couldn't find anything on the thread about this but the Ota updates is that something you plan on doing once this "black line" gets figured out or is it already possible to be able to use once you send an update?
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
I'm weary of ota's seems like more people then not that got the lines were after taking ota's as far as pa was concerned.

Some even got them just after a gapps ota lol
[Verizon LG G2] :
But like I posted above there's no way it is the software. It seems more of a hardware issue
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
But something has to be effecting it. What? Seven months of the phone being out and they all start crapping out at the same time?

What's the odds on that? Lg should start playing the lottery then if this is dumb luck

I do agree that it is hardware, but something is effecting it now, versus back on 4.3 or 4.2 based 4.4, which neither had a single black issue (aside from savoca's first breed of aosp kernel)

I don't believe that its just dumb luck that 20+ peoples phones crapped the bed in a three day stretch.

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Also, I got this phone back in October rocking 10b

Flashed well over one hundred Roms of all types and colors

No issue master race reporting.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Who knows really but all I am saying is that is only 20+ users out of how many users? Plus are they beginner users or intermediate? We really won't know but like I said I been flashing everything non stop from kernels and roms non stop. Are there pictures of these lines? Also I am not calling anyone a liar but some of these stories I read about this doesn't add up. Maybe they did something and not known it. I also did notice though that with the extreme testing on two g2s with one that came with 12b and 11a. 11a as older model by a few months if I recall. Maybe a different hardware was used and with extreme usage and flashing are now finally causing them to fail.
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
Its more than likely a chip issue. Not all chips are created equal. From one batch to the next.

Just like with our device and undervolting. Some people can't do it much at all, but I've never had problems.

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Anyways, sorry for all of the ot Rob
[Verizon LG G2] :
At least we agree on its a hardware issue because I read on other forums that people are blaming the developer and in my book it's wrong.
[Verizon LG G2] revolt1:
On 05/05 build waiting for next stable build
[Verizon LG G2] :
I been on 6/1 with no issues
[Verizon LG G2] revolt1:
Link please

Thanks in advance
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
https://carbonrom.org/mirrors/?file=vs980/nightly/CARBON-KK-NIGHTLY-20140601-0638-vs980.zip
[Verizon LG G2] revolt1:
USA one or 2 and is it 24a
[Verizon LG G2] revolt1:
The latest build volume seems lower than on 05/05 build
[Verizon LG G2] Cadillac Johnson:
Reminds me of the eMMC failure (bootlooping in recovery) on the Thunderbolt..

Just happened to be when 2.3 ROMs were popping up, and was an easy blame until the real problem was identified as a bad run of phones..

Still on the 5/15 build, if its gonna happen, its gonna happen, not much sense in worrying about it.
[Verizon LG G2] :
both are 24a builds
[Verizon LG G2] jdubois718:
Everything works great but I'm having a lot of trouble sending and receiving MMS messages, I think it has something to do with the APN settings and only being able to select one.
[Verizon LG G2] :
No issues here
[Verizon LG G2] jordanl17:
I have been dealing with this for a long time. For reference, I'm a Vzw customer in SW Connecticut. It's crazy that some have zero issues, yet my MMS always have issues.
[Verizon LG G2] :
I had quite a scare yesterday. Wondering if this may have happened to anyone else, but I had carbonRom on, and went to reboot and got to the LG screen and all of a sudden the screen went grey like the power was shutting of and it was melting the lg logo onto the screen. Not blaming the rom at all. This was the first time this ever happened.
[Verizon LG G2] evolishesh:
This has not happened to me, but it has happened with other roms. Like c-rom, vanir, and others.
[Verizon LG G2] :
I just quickly pressed the power button and held it till it turned off and put gummyRom 4.4.3 on for the time being.
[Verizon LG G2] ars0n:
read a few pages back has something to do with the commits..

I am on beta 4 working great.. had that same thing happen to me on the builds 5/5 later.. had the black line across the screen too.
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
Been staying on beta 4 also, works just fine except for interactive governor not working and that's no big deal.
[Verizon LG G2] bigshotrob22:
Tomorrow I'm going to build a 4.4.3 build just for us vs980 folks. I'm going to use my old source I built my betas on.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Awesome I am excited to test
[Verizon LG G2] HueyT:
That white screen, turning grey, rainbow colors, distorted LG logo is NOT the same as the permanent screen damage you've heard about. It's happened 4 times to me from rom flashing and no permanent damage (knock on wood). It goes away with hard reboots using power button. I would not let that scare you at all from trying roms.
[Verizon LG G2] :
No no i know its not the screen damage. I just figured i point it out.
[Verizon LG G2] :
Since I am not the only one. What could be the cause of this?
[Verizon LG G2] mjones73:
Kernel differences required for the LGD vs JDI panels.
[Verizon LG G2] tacosrdelicioso:
Are you referring to 24a?
[Verizon LG G2] Lawlrus:
Yes, his betas were using the 4.4 base kernel

Sent from my Vs980 running Lam Hoang Stock 7.1
[Verizon LG G2] revolt1:
Can't wait
[Verizon LG G2] bigshotrob22:
Sorry guys got hit with the stomach flu. I'll try and get one done today if not for sure tomorrow morning.
[Verizon LG G2] MaceBewley:
OUCH thats rough!! Sending good vibes!
[Verizon LG G2] simpsonr:
I just got over that the other day. Took 3 days to go through it.

Hey, will you be on irc today? I got a good build going with updated jackpotclavin source as well as carbon 4.4.3 but have run into that damn "stuck core #3 issue". No black lines either, which is nice.

Oh, take imodium, works like a charm.
[Verizon LG G2] jordanl17:
did you flash a new ROM last night? Black lines on the screen... now instant stomach flu?

sorry, couldn't resist. Get well soon! I'm drooling for 4.4.3... for no good reason!
[Verizon LG G2] MaceBewley:
Built early this morning! Running pretty good if I do say so....

Also no black lines!!
[Verizon LG G2] simpsonr:
What kernel source did u use?
[Verizon LG G2] MaceBewley:
The default from cobalt...
[Verizon LG G2] simpsonr:
What's cobalt?
[Verizon LG G2] MaceBewley:
My bad Carbon, was looking at some cobalt drill bits.