yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[One (M7) General] bloodbath:
I do agree anything is possible, as long as someone with the skill and willingness to do so tries to come up with a way to S-off. As time goes by and the phone gets older, that window of hope starts to get smaller and smaller.

The reason people say it's impossible is because certain HTC One (M7) phones which have hboot 1.56 are unable to use firewater or any current method. Older models seem be fine, but newer ones are affected (mine included - just got a new one to replace the purple camera tint on my original). It doesn't matter if you change the ROM or not; many people have tried multiple ROMs. Without s-off, from my understanding, you can't change the firmware nor the kernel. If we could, then getting s-off wouldn't be "impossible".

I'm not sure why certain models do not work. Some say it's hardware changes, others suggest firmware or software. What I do know is that unless someone is willing to figure it out or HTC decides that they want to allow users to be able to attain s-off, there is no current method to achieving it.
[One (M7) General] neudof:
I cannot get firewater to run for some reason on rennovate 3.0..

all the commands complete, but nothing happens. Any advice?

Here is my CMD window responses:

C:\AndroidDevelopment\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20130917\sdk\platform-tools>adb

reboot

* daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037 *

* daemon started successfully *

C:\AndroidDevelopment\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20130917\sdk\platform-tools>adb

wait-for-device push firewater /data/local/tmp

4195 KB/s (4519496 bytes in 1.052s)

C:\AndroidDevelopment\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20130917\sdk\platform-tools>adb

shell

RENOVATE@/# su

su

RENOVATE@/# chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/firewater

chmod 755 /data/local/tmp/firewater

RENOVATE@/# /data/local/tmp/firewater

/data/local/tmp/firewater

RENOVATE@/#

C:\AndroidDevelopment\adt-bundle-windows-x86_64-20130917\sdk\platform-tools>
[One (M7) General] rm83855:
You can change the kernel without s off.... Changing the ROM in my case allowed me to gain s off. I tried for about 2 hours with ARHD ROM with no success, changed ROMS and it worked first time. I'm aware there's issues with certain newer devices but telling everyone it's impossible when it may not be is not helpful. That was my point.
[One (M7) General] jaykay1984:
before succeeding, had the error message "whelps this sucks"?
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
I had the exact issue. Had an M7 S-OFF, perfectly fine. Camera broke, got a replacement in early April, 1.56 HBOOT, can't S-OFF. I have spent at least 8 hours to no success. I've tried countless different ROMs including going back to rooted RUU 4.2.2. I've never had any issues with root or getting it to work, just constant immediate Whelp. Rumrunner also burns out after 8 chugs.

From the sounds of it, if you get the initial Whelp, there's no amount of ROM changing, etc. that will fix it. That's what the words say anyways, and in my hours and hours of trying, it's no go. I've used Windows, Linux, various different machines, cables, ROMs, root exploits. I think many people are confusing the Whelps. There is later Whelps that happen with poorly rooted devices, etc. The Whelp that seems to be the kiss of death is the Whelp that appears immediately on execution.

The only difference between me and you is, I personally think S-OFF is mandatory. Adaway is a killer app which works horribly on S-ON. Also, my ROM which I love (Eragon) has a bunch of default Apps installed that I don't want. When I root explore and delete them, they return on reboot (S-ON related issue). I also can't load a custom sound driver like V4A. There is actually a laundry list of stuff that I can't do with S-ON. It's really frustrating.
[One (M7) General] Rix70:
please Dev, the tool for many M7 with new hboot 1.56+ can't go in OFF

Tnx however for all
[One (M7) General] Seanie280672:
Like it says in the whelp message, do not ask for help, they will fix it if they can and announce it, however by all accounts, firewater M7 development is now eol, just sit back and wait and see if a new tool arises.
[One (M7) General] noky76:
any way to get s-off with h-boot 1.57 and cid t-mobile 101? I always get whelp, this sucks, firewater can not work on your device

no amount of reflashing, retrying, or ruuing will fix...

DO NOT COME TO IRere su xdaC ASKING FOR UPDATES OR ETAS!!!!!!

if we are able to fix this issue, it will be announced

bye bye.....sorry it didn't work out.

I am on viperone rom
[One (M7) General] forziere:
when I write adb-reeboot

it'll answer :

daemon not running. starting it now on port 5037

daemon stared successfully

error : device off line

could someone help me?
[One (M7) General] victorsaad:
Happened with me before. Disconect and manual reboot device solved the error.
[One (M7) General] Seanie280672:
Read my post above yours for the answer

You need to update your adb and fastboot, goto the link below and follow the instructions to update your adb and fastboot

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2317790
[One (M7) General] febanovsky:
I was on latest stock 4.4.2 and I wasnt able to use this tool. After that I install Android 4.3 Revolution (Jelly Bean) - latest official HTC One 3.62.401.1 (WWE) firmware (31.x series)via twrp and try Firewater and... BUM! S-OFF :D
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
It would be helpful if you included the error messages you had initially? Such as immediate "Whelp" or Whelp after Chugging or issues with root/running, etc?

I've tried various other ROMs including JB4.3, 4.2.2, 4.1.2 and various 4.4 derivatives. Can't S-Off.

(bootloader) version: 0.5

(bootloader) version-bootloader: 1.56.0000

(bootloader) version-baseband: 4T.24.3218.09

(bootloader) version-cpld: None

(bootloader) version-microp: None

(bootloader) version-main: 4.18.502.7

(bootloader) version-misc: PVT SHIP S-ON

(bootloader) serialno: HT349W#####

(bootloader) imei: 35443905######

(bootloader) meid: 00000000000000

(bootloader) product: m7_ul

(bootloader) platform: HBOOT-8064

(bootloader) modelid: PN0712000

(bootloader) cidnum: CWS__001

(bootloader) battery-status: good

(bootloader) battery-voltage: 4282mV

(bootloader) partition-layout: Generic

(bootloader) security: on

(bootloader) build-mode: SHIP

(bootloader) boot-mode: FASTBOOT

(bootloader) commitno-bootloader: dirty-c6bbb6d4

(bootloader) hbootpreupdate: 11

(bootloader) gencheckpt: 0

all: Done!

finished. total time: 0.045s
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
For the millionth time. If the error message is whelp it won't work period. If it comes up with just about any other message you should be able to get it to work. Could be a driver issue or maybe try flashing another ROM
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
I know that, but when you hear people coming here saying they had the "Whelp" message and then fixed it with some combination of ROMs/practices it makes you wonder. I've come to the resolve that they are talking about another Whelp message. I'm hoping someone proves me wrong.
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
There was one person who claimed he got the whelp message on an older version but got s off on the latest one. If you get that message on the current version on the site I think you're screwed
[One (M7) General] Riccardo_91:
Hi,

First, I apologize if my English is not the best .... I'm Italian xD

I have this problem: I am trying to get S-OFF, I did the whole procedure with Firewater, I get the message "the first bottle is open ...... chugging." and then as if to stop. Do not continue the series of bottles.

I have all the updated drivers for my HTC.

Can anyone help me solve this anomaly?

Thanks. :)
[One (M7) General] forziere:
ok I'll try:good:
[One (M7) General] vahica:
i have problem too
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
My One has returned from HTC with S-ON, I presume they changed the board as the IMEI is different. Can't believe they didn't give me Sense 6 though. :(

Now, the temproot method is not working for me on HBOOT 1.56 and I must go through HTC DEV.

Using temproot, I get this error:
[One (M7) General] kadettilac89:
When you got a new phone nighter temproot nor firewater after htcdev unlock will work. Same for many others as you can find in older posts . Have same problem. I assume you will get whelp message when you try with unlocked boot loader.
[One (M7) General] sToRm1nG:
As said many times before: TEMPROOT WON'T work with HBOOT 1.56+. There is no way around HTC Dev
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
It's not a new device.

All they did was replace the faulty board with an OEM (CID - HTC_032) one.

Seems you were wrong mate, worked perfectly fine for me:

Yep, found that out for myself today.
[One (M7) General] sToRm1nG:
Congrats mate! :good:
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Cheers mate!

Gotta say I was getting a bit worried after the 3rd bottle.
[One (M7) General] Cristianop:
hello i have the problem that in cmd if type "adb reboot" it says "error: device not found". I installed sdk and updated everything and it still doesnt work. any idea? i have latest htc driver installed
[One (M7) General] bradmax57:
Hi,

Long time since I did any flashing of phones etc, mine is the same hboot and software version as yours was when it came back from htc, If I try the same as you and successfully get s-off then what, can you still install custom recovery and roms? like I say i'm very rusty :)
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
When I re-S'OFF'd the other day (after getting it back from service and a motherboard exchange), it chugged 12 bottles before giving me S-OFF, and the time after that (yes, it needed to be sent it again for another motherboard exchange), it only chugged 1 bottle before giving me S-OFF.
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Tried rebooting your phone and PC?

USB Debugging enabled?

Yep you can just go ahead and flash recovery, then ROM. :)

This is a good one to try - http://renovate-themes.de/index.php

Wow nice, you sent it in twice??

The only thing I'm slightly annoyed about is that before my SoC was PVS4 and now I've got PVS3. :(
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
Thrice, actually..

How do I check what SoC revision I have? If it's not easy I won't bother.
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Really?? And they fixed it for free??

Its fairly easy to check PVS mate, see here - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2215710
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
They have to, it's within the warranty period and I made sure I was completely locked down and S-ON before sending it in.

[MENTION=3301438]geko95gek[/MENTION] I must be doing something wrong but I can't find my PVS.

EDIT: It says something about:

PVS: Krait:3 Q6:Nom VDDCX:Slow

...

...

speed_bin is 1

So PVS 3?
[One (M7) General] victorsaad:
Guys need your help please
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Hmm sounds about right, you probably got your board replaced with the same oem board as me. Did you reboot twice and then pull the last_kmsg? I found it easier to copy it to my pc and then search for the required lines.

Check http://htc1guru.com

Don't know why you're asking about RUUs here as this isn't really the thread for these questions.

Sent from my baked potato with blue cheese
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
yeah I did.
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Cool, they should look something like this:

1 acpuclk-8064 acpuclk-8064: SPEED BIN: 1

[ 0.373474] c0 1 acpuclk-8064 acpuclk-8064: ACPU PVS: 3
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
They don't.

[231449] speed_bin is 1

[286060] [INFO][ACPU] get_pvs: ACPU PVS: Fast
[One (M7) General] victorsaad:
Sorry if you got me wrong.

I am not asking for RUUs here.

need help to get S-Off.

I tried many guides several times with no luck.

---------- Post added at 02:01 AM ---------- Previous post was at 01:58 AM ----------

I tried your methods many times.

I tried many other tools.

no luck in getting S-OFF.

I have windows 8.1

HTC One Dual Sim

HBoot 2.49 unlocked (HTCDev)

Once i try to run firewater nothing happens and i am back to shell again.

Need your help please.
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
Like I said mate, those specific lines aren't there. I'm searching with Notepad++.
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Fair enough, think you're on PVS3 then.
[One (M7) General] matrix_reload:
CID 044

HBOOT 1.57

Stock rom, Unlock BL, root

Can not S-OFF.
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Don't think it's possible to S-OFF 1.57, and probably never be.

Sent from my baked potato with blue cheese
[One (M7) General] jaykay1984:
with such conviction you believe this? do you think the htc one m7 has been abandoned by the developers? htc hd2 after 5 years is still below!
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Nope, not abandoned by any means. However the development has slowed down immensely since the release of the M8 and it will only keep deteriorating from now on.

Sent from my baked potato with blue cheese
[One (M7) General] RockStar2005:
Please help us HTC One M8 owners!!

Alessiomoro,

Are you the creator of Firewater? I really hope so! Need your help.

I am trying to use Firewater to do "S-OFF" on my phone, but I suspect that the newest update on my HTC One M8 phone (T-Mobile, not GPE, and it's already been rooted), which is on build # 1.57, is currently incompatible with Firewater, even though it's not supposed to be. You see, several people who tried to doing S-OFF on 1.54 or lower succeeded, but many who have the newest one like me have not. It gets to the first "chug" for me, and then instead of continuing on, I just get a command prompt like a minute later. So I still have S-ON, which sux.

Can you PLEASE PLEASE figure out a way to update your Firewater program so that it is compatible with the NEWEST HTC One M8 build # (1.57.531.7 to be exact). Believe me, MANY people on xda will love you for it. Don't believe that? Then skim here lol: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2713939&page=26

I look forward to hearing from you and thank you for your efforts!

Sincerely,

RockStar2005
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
You really should read before posting. In the very first sentence, it says: "Firewater S-Off is the result of many hours of hard work by beaups and fuses"

Your fault for updating to a newer base.

Wow, you did not just write this. :rolleyes:

Code a new S-OFF yourself and post it here.
[One (M7) General] cs982005:
Works for me too after being driven nuts trying all the other methods (guessing due to this weird HBOTT version 1.57)

What I used:

Latest CM11 snapshot (20140504 -- aka M6)

basic CM kernel

Enable su for adb (IMPORTANT - ALSO DROVE ME NUTS FOR A WHILE) in cyanogen settings and enable the usual stuff in SuperSU
[One (M7) General] iCangFans:
its very important
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Sure, life is. Smartphones less so, unless you're a Watch Dog. :good:
[One (M7) General] bikmate:
Thanks for the guide and thanks to the devs, I used it get S-Off on my cousins One. :good:
[One (M7) General] billgs:
If I understand correctly, are you confirming that s-off works on HTC

M7

with hboot 1.57 and the latest cm in conjuction with the settings you mentioned?

If so, I think this is a great breakthrough, especially for people like me who hesitate to send their device to service due to pink tint, because they dont want to lose s-off. Can you, or anyone else that had success in s-offing 1.57 please confirm?:highfive:
[One (M7) General] rasstar:
I have a T-Mobile HTC One with hboot 1.57 and have tried this and many other combinations. Firewater does not even attempt to work all I get is "whelp, this sucks, firewater can not work on your device"
[One (M7) General] Andy_Guinness:
Hello,

i've a real problem to get S-Off. My phone brick by the problem causing firmware. I send it to a repair service for jtag repair.

now I got it back with changed values ( IMEI, serialno, product designation ( was M7_UL, now M7_vlw, wrong modell-id .. )

If you are interested for more details: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2768113

I must get S-Off to solve this problems. I have hboot 1,54.

all S-Offs ( firewater, rumrunners, moonshine, renove ) went wrong. mostly -> wrong ROM.

with firewater I got permission errors at first, so I set the permissions to 755 manually. permission problems solved.

now when I start firewater, I get the message "error, run firewater as root".

I've installed su.

Does anybody have any ideas ?

Thanks a lot in advance.

Andreas
[One (M7) General] bobatomix:
Hey guys, if Firewater didn't work, please check your adb drivers on Windows.

It's very important to have your device S-OFF.

Sent with my HTC One.
[One (M7) General] rasstar:
kjkj

I read if you get a whelp message then firewater wouldn't work.
[One (M7) General] jcase:
Adb drivers have nothing to do with firewater working or not
[One (M7) General] yatindroid:
They do many times fastboot & recovery driver are not installed that also cause failure

Firewater don't ask permission & terminate after chmod command

I Bricked my ???One
[One (M7) General] jcase:
Firewater has nothing to do with fastboot, no such thing as recovery driver. The early termination is is an user error not a driver issue. Firrwater is ran device side and is not impacted directly by driver problems
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
I suggest that you don't argue with what JCase is saying.
[One (M7) General] yatindroid:
I'm just telling my experience wasn't there my phone not s off with so many tries but after driver it got success in 1st I don't know how but it worked for me

One thing more is anyone got succeeded with 1.57 any how ?

I Bricked my ???One
[One (M7) General] CamoGeko:
Dude, read 1 page back.
[One (M7) General] Cillian.K:
Hboot 1.5.7

When I upgraded to KitKat on my O2 HTC One I got Hboot 1.5.7 when I run Firewater I get the Whelp message. Is there anything I can try or am I really stuck waiting till the next version? Or is there an alternate way to flash GPE software on S-On
[One (M7) General] rasstar:
You are stuck. You should be able to flash a gpe room in recovery
[One (M7) General] Wilsonium:
Firewater fails...

I've installed my developer key, obtained root, installed TWRP, go thru the steps with Firewater and this is as far as I get every time...

preparing, one moment

The first bottle is open

chugging..........

root@htc_m8:/ #

Any suttestions? I get the "Tampered Flag" but it never flips to "s-off" I've even tried the temp root option.

TMO HTC One M8.
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
You are stuck. Nothing you can do at the moment. There is no other way to flash GPE
[One (M7) General] hatemakasha:
I tried many time to change to s-off but nothing ?
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
That's not very helpful. What message do u get?
[One (M7) General] withwolf1987:
Tryed "cs982005" way.

No luck.

Hboot 1.56

Latest CM11 snapshot (20140504 -- aka M6)

basic CM kernel

Enable su for adb.

Get the same "whelp ...."
[One (M7) General] nateboi81:
If you get whelped it just ain't gonna work I'm afraid
[One (M7) General] beaups:
I guess the whelp message isn't clear enough....
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
Isn't there more than one Whelp? The one that happens instantly seems straight forward, but then you read about people who do something and it suddenly works, but I suspect it's one of the later whelps after chugging.
[One (M7) General] beaups:
Doesn't make a difference. Not sure why everyone is so hyperinvestigative of these messages. "Firewater can't work on your device" means just that, regardless of where it is seen.
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
I get what you're saying. However, I think some people just refer to "Whelp" which is also used when chugging as well as possibly used with other error messages. So if an error occurs after, "Whelp, that bottle is empty", it seems fixable.

There are countless people in here saying they saw "Whelp" and then re-rooted, tried a new ROM, etc. etc. and it worked. I think these people do not know the other Whelp message (Whelp, this sucks), so it really confuses things. Granted, I've only seen "Whelp, this sucks" so I'm not sure how many other sentences there are with "Whelp" in it. Similarly, other people who got S-OFF and saw "Whelp" before, likely didn't see the "Whelp, this sucks" right at the beginning.

Here's references to "Whelp" which aren't bad, that is my point. People here need to be more clear about what exact Whelp message they get. There are a handful of people who had some Whelp, couldn't S-OFF and now can. They're most certainly not talking about the same whelp, hence confusion and hope is made for some...
[One (M7) General] beaups:
Ahhh good point. I don't ever use the word "whelp", yet somehow I used it twice here? Weird.
[One (M7) General] jeremy86:
==================== firewater S-OFF 8.0.6.1 ===========================

firewater S-OFF comes with NO WARRANTY (express or implied)

and NO GUARANTEE OF FITNESS for any particular task.

We have made every effort we can to make this a safe process for users

however the authors disclaim any liability for damage to your phone

or other materials or devices used during this process.

The entire risk of running firewater S-OFF lies with you, the user.

By using this software you acknowledge and accept that the authors

are not liable for any loss, material or otherwise howsoever caused.

firewater S-OFF may not be rehosted, repackaged, one-clicked, etc.

support is available @ #firewater on the freenode and andirc networks

support is much faster there vs. posting helpme threads on xda etc

Do not operate a motor vehicle after interacting with firewater

Do not inhale firewater or allow firewater to come in contact with eyes

firewater is best served at extremely cold temperatures

firewater has been known to cause temporary lapses in judgement

DO NOT TAUNT FIREWATER, YOU'VE BEEN WARNED

=========================================================================

Do you understand the implications of these warnings?

(Yes/No)

Yes

Yes

!!If firewater hangs for more than 2 minutes or device enters qhusb mode, hold power for 60 seconds !!

=========================================================================

preparing, one moment

The first bottle is open

chugging..........

********** whelp, this sucks, firewater can not work on your device **********

********** no amount of reflashing, retrying, or ruuing will fix... **********

********** DO NOT COME TO IRC ASKING FOR UPDATES OR ETAS!!!!!! **********

********** if we are able to fix this issue, it will be announced **********

********** bye bye.....sorry it didn't work out. **********
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
See your "Whelp" is different than mine. You get to the first bottle, I never get that far. Just straight to whelp, this sucks:
[One (M7) General] ionut.micu:
The latest version is 8.0.6.1. Try downloading firewater again.
[One (M7) General] GAPY427:
How?

Once you download the Firewater file, do you load it into the phone's internal drive? Leave it on your desktop? Thanks.
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
Thanks for the headsup, I was unaware they updated it again. I just quickly re-ran the same one I had already downloaded from a week or so ago since I never recalled seeing chugging. None the less, this one also fails, however it does show the first "chugging" consistent with the other guys results.

It does now take about 30 seconds to fail as opposed to before where it just crashed out. So I guess this is the new consistent, "Whelp this sucks"
[One (M7) General] ionut.micu:
Just like me :) let's hope the developers are on the right track.
[One (M7) General] DBCoop:
Follow the directions. Download to your PC. Push to internal phone storage via ADB, run from ADB Shell.
[One (M7) General] withwolf1987:
Me too:crying:
[One (M7) General] yatindroid:
SUCCESS!!!!

ONCE AGAIN HBOOT 1.56 4.4 S OFF AGAIN ON NEW MOTHERBOARD

Previous was bricked due to modify hboot

Now I'm yatin kumar to yatindroid
[One (M7) General] Cillian.K:
Yeah now I get chugging before whelp. So close:crying:
[One (M7) General] Theshawty:
No, not close. It doesn't matter if it chugs 20 bottles or 1 bottle before whelp. If it says your device can't be S-OFF'd, it can't be S-OFF'd. Isn't the whelp message clear enough?
[One (M7) General] jaykay1984:
Meanwhile, there has been an update, it is a good thing, then why are you so sure that we can no longer go to s-off? 've had messages from htc that its devices are now impenetrable?