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[Xperia Z1 Accessories] rpcherrera:
Will be waiting for teh pictures!

Really wanting to buy this, front and back, to replace my <1week old nillkin tempered.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] don_rico:
curious

I hope you can post the pics.... so add this reply to the count.:victory:
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
Boop. 10th post.

OP will now be updated with pictures :D

I think the greatest weakness of the 0.2mm will be its... weakness. The thinness probably makes it more prone to cracking than the thicker protectors, but it is also probably more flexible, so who knows. It's definitely not super fragile though, I was just being stupid.

Also want to add that the customer support at Crystal Armor is great. The English support team swiftly answered my inquiries, and even emailed me when I ordered a second one to double check if it was a mistake or not :good:

So while I wait for the second protector to come in, I'll be using the phone without an ASF and I'll do a writeup on that in a few days as well.

I still have the cracked protector so if anyone wants me to do some testing with it let me know :p
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] shteren:
sorry to see that buddy.... try nillkin next time :P it's smaller than the screen so it's very easy to fit, i did it without hinges, and it's also super slick, i sometimes have a hard time texting cos my fingers are sliding on the glass...
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
I don't see how a smaller screen protector makes it easier to fit, having to match the spacing on each side will definitely test the very limits of my patience, and I know I'll mess up and get reminded of my mistake every single time I use the phone.

Also can you please unquote the OP? That's a huge quote.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] masterv1:
I have just received my front and back protector from Crystal Armour. For the front I got the 0,2mm version and for the back 0,33mm.

Later I will show you some photos.

I uploaded a comparison between Glass M and Crystal Armour, both 0,2mm thin, you can see there the difference in size of the protector.

I like that the CA haven't got a proximity sensor cut out, it is working without any issues.

And for the back protector I have to say, no flash cut out and no flash-light bleeding in photos.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
Nice info. Any pictures of the back glass? I was contemplating getting it but I'm not sure if I even need glass on the back side.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] masterv1:
I like the feel of the back with the glass, because of rounded edges. Also less fingerprints and it's easy to remove them.

Before the glass I had a foil, I disliked it, because of scratches and fingerprints, it looked very cheap.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
Hmmm.. My main concern for the back is the fingerprints so maybe a good oleophobic coating on the glass after removing the ASF would be good... Or I could just get a cheap rear glass...

Speaking of the ASF, I've been using my bare screen for a while so I'll talk a little about it.

Feels good to be touching actual glass :angel:

But because there is no coating on the glass, fingerprints and smudges build up very very quickly, and I had to clean it frequently. Because there's no coating on it there's a bit of friction against your fingertips. I'm sure that some Rain-X or some sort of glass sealant will make the screen a lot more smooth (friction wise, there's no texture on the glass obviously).

Now don't expect the display to magically improve without the ASF. It doesn't become more vibrant, bright, or have any better viewing angles.

But don't think that removing the ASF is pretty much pointless and is a stupid move. The ASF is a stupid move. Unless you slap a screen protector over the ASF as soon as you get the phone, you are going to get scratches because the ASF is so soft. So I got fed up with the marks and decided to just remove it. Now you have glass that is actually hard. Some people are just anti-protector and that's perfectly fine. The Dragontrail glass is tough and it's not gonna get scratched that easily. I think running the bare glass with some sort of sealant, oleophobic coating , or a mix you'll have a nice feeling anti-fingerprint glass. Just reapply when the coating wears off.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] dmh1:
Please quote wisely !!!:eek:
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Anon of Holland:
I'm about to order one of these too since it's the only one that doesn't have those ugly cutouts.

Did you order them from this page: apeiros.stores.jp?

I tried ordering from Japanese Amazon but they wouldn't ship them outside of Japan unfortunately.

I'm thinking of getting the front & back set since their camera opening also looks pretty snug on the back. Slightly worried about the flash though.

Any new pictures?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
Yep you need to order from their page here which is specifically for out of Japan orders.

Then just put in your info like normal and don't worry about the state. You can repeat all the info in the comments field just in case.

I'm actually picking the new one up today and I'll have new pictures up soon. I didn't buy the back though.

There is actually no 0.2mm version set so you'll have to purchase the back glass separately here.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Anon of Holland:
Well, I'm pretty sure this is a front and back set right here >apeiros.stores.jp/#!/items/5291cc178a56105df400079c< (I can't link directly due to not having enough posts yet) but it's only available in Japanese so I sent an inquiry on how exactly I should order it. Sounds pretty straightforward the way you tell it though.

I think I'll hold off on actually ordering it until I hear back from you. There's basically no reviews out there at all of these things, so I wonder if it's actually good or just expensive. How did you manage to break it in the first place by the way?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
That one is for the Z1 f.

I've emailed them about it and they just told me to fill the form out and I somehow managed to get through the Japanese.

What's worrying me the most is that I don't know how it broke. I was about to install it and when I got back to it I noticed the crack. Did I drop it onto the tabletop? Or did i crack it when i was peeling a corner of the protective film on it? It'll always be a mystery to me.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] bodson66:
I've had probably almost every brand of tempered glass that is out there lol,I have 6 unused ones on my desk as we speak. The problem with the vey thin ones such as 0.2mm is that they are brittle. It doesn't take much force to either crack or chip them. They are nice due to being so thin but my suggestion is get the thicker one. The one thing that appealed to me about this one was that there are no cutouts. I've had the rhino shield on for over a month now and its held up good but it is a little more prone to scratches than the glass but it doesn't chip and adds the ability to absorb impact.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Vaith:
Great! Now your warranty is void!

Wysłane z mojego C6903 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Anon of Holland:
There's a Z1 f? Never heard of it. Thanks for telling me though since I totally didn't notice.

The form should be okay with Google Translate.. It's weird the way you broke it though.. A sheet that's supposed to be able to stop hammer blows from breaking your screen can't even stay..unbroken..for a few minutes? Or it can't stand something being peeled off it? Sounds weird.

I'm eagerly awaiting your new results.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
Oh no! I had no idea! I totally didn't research the drawbacks and risks of removing the ASF and I was totally unprepared for the consequences! /s

I can't care less about my warranty and if my eMMCs commit seppuku and Sony tries to void my warranty because a piece of film was removed from the screen they can go kill themselves.

It's brittle by itself because it's so thin. It probably broke from flex which won't be a problem once it's installed.

The payment method part (お支払い方法) is a dropdown so you can't google translate that, but it should be pretty obvious that the second out of the 4 choices is credit card (first one is the prompt for you to choose) and the last one is collect on delivery.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
STOP QUOTING HUGE POSTS

I got the protector installed last night and went snowboarding with it today and it's still in one piece :good:

They included a microfiber cloth this time (I wonder if they read my review :p)

The tab for peeling off the protective film is also a lot easier to peel off this time.

I couldn't use the hinge method to install this protector because the duct tape just won't stick. Not sure if it's a good thing because the coating is strong or if it's a bad thing because I misaligned thanks to not having a hinge.

Also trapped a spec of fiber, which ironically is probably from the microfiber cloth they provided... Luckily it's so small that I can only find it with my face about 8cm from the screen.

Having this protector on is also definitely visible, due to the rounded corners

Also leaks a bit of light at the side like the edge of a lit acrylic panel (reference)

The coating is indeed very smooth in case I haven't mentioned it enough. My fingers glide on it with pretty much no friction, and because the screen is now raised a bit I don't feel the ridge at the end of the screen anymore. And because it's so smooth you don't have to use much force on the screen so it leaves even less marks. All the pictures I've taken are after 1 day of use and no cleaning at all.

My camera lens is 14-24mm which is useless for macro so here's a video for you guys :D

[YOUTUBE]_qfOwNLb4VA[/YOUTUBE]

You can see at 0:12 where I misaligned
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Anon of Holland:
It certainly looks the best out of any protectors I've seen. The no holes definitely make a huge difference on a phone that is this much about aesthetics. It doesn't impact the performance of the meter and the camera at all?

And was there ever any word from Sony about if the ASF affected waterproofness?

I'm very worried about not applying it well if I get this and wasting €60 on a poorly aligned protector..maybe I'll try some cheaper ones first to get the hang of it, but it definitely looks like so far this is the best one out there.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
So far the proximity sensor is working fine but I haven't used the front facing camera yet so I'll hold my conclusions for both until later.

There is absolutely no reason why the ASF would have anything to do with water proofing.

This is the second screen protector that I've ever applied in my life (I'm quite anti-screen protector). Just take your time and use a cloth that will definitely not leave lint (even some optical cleaning towels leave lint so be very careful). Dust won't accumulate if you apply it in the washroom after shower so you can take your time aligning carefully.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] eclyptos:
May I ask why for remove the original ASF and replace it with another screen protector?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
My goals were

1. Touch real glass

2. Easy to clean

Scratch protection is not a high priority

ASF is scratched so no way I'm keeping that on

Removing the ASF reveals the bare glass and it's not really that pleasant to use. Too much friction and fingerprints everywhere.

I can either apply those oleophobic coatings which requires reapplication

Or

Get this screen protector and get protection while I'm at it. If the coating wears off I can buy an oleophobic coating thing and apply it either on the protector or remove the protecotr and put it on the bare glass

Not exactly the most financially optimal choice, but I get much more choices going this way.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] r_southampton:
Winrahr - I really like your style and thought process!

I very much dislike screen protectors.... but I don't like scratches either - and I assumed that a top end modern phone with dragontail (or gorilla glass) had pretty much solved this problem for us - until Sony bizarrely decided to put a supersoft screen protector on top.

I fear that this was because they discovered that the screen was too hard (and scratch proof) on it's own, and was liable to shatter if dropped.

Anyway like yours, mine is all scratched up, and I've been contemplating taking it off for a few weeks now. I'm quite happy to risk the odd minor scratch, but do you have any thoughts on its shatterability (as a bare screen)?

Interesting suggestion about oleophobic coatings. I'd never thought about trying Rainex which I use on my car side-windows. I think I might just try going with bare glass and Rainex.

I went through a similar process with Xperia Arc a few years ago... didn't use a screen protector for first year, then removed the ASF that few people realised was there. After another year I had one minor scratch but a much better experience overall. might try the rainex on the Arc first.

Thank you for your posts on this subject.

r.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
I've never tried Rain-x but since it's more hydrophobic than oleophobic, it might not be as effective. But since it's so cheap it can't hurt, especially when you already have it.

For the shattering, it's really hard to gauge the risk because no one has tested it before. It could just have chunks falling off, some small pieces going everywhere and making you spend all day cleaning it up, or into pieces flying and embedding themselves in your flesh.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] aryayush:
Thanks for the review and video. This looks like a great product. Can you tell me where you bought it from? I’ve searched Amazon and eBay but to no avail, and the company does not seem to have a website.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
http://crystal-armor.com/#!/items/52cdf19c236a1ef1ea0002b4
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] aryayush:
Would you mind helping me purchase this one? When I added it to my cart and went to the checkout page, it only showed Japanese states in the drop down menu. Is it possible to have it shipped internationally?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
EDIT: I didn't even click your link haha. Just email them about it they might do a special order for you.

I can't help you as I don't live in Japan :p
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] aryayush:
Thanks a lot for your help. I ended up going with this one from Brando instead. It’s also 0.2mm thin with rounded edges and no unsightly holes for the front camera and sensor. It seems to have good reviews, was less hassle-prone to purchase and is cheaper to boot.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] tiru.adi13:
Sent from my Nexus 4
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] The Driv3r:
How is this compared to the spigen glas Tr Slim?

Thanks for the review! :good:
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] jacker60:
Excellent review, have to save some bucks to bought one :D :fingers-crossed:
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] pacion:
Does anyone try this? The video is cool~

It looks very high quality with great hardness protection.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y8dTxLFQirk
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] smithmyth:
very nice review, i would like to buy this protector

it sells on ebay?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
You can find it on their site

Here's my short term experience on this screen protector:

In the first week, it was oleophobic heaven. Super slick, almost completely fingerprint-proof. The few smudges come off extremely easily.

Towards the end of week 2 it has become less oleophobic. It's not extremely slick like new but it is still very good. Smudges and prints come off just from taking the phone out of the pocket.

End of week 3 had me a bit worried. Has the oleophobic coating worn off already? Fingerprints go on pretty easily and it is not very slick. Then I realized that in this entire time I have not once cleaned the screen with any cleaning solution, only wiping it down with a microfiber cloth.

So I did that and the slickness is back. It feels more like week 2... At least for a few days.

So now I clean the screen regularly and when the screen is clean it's much easier to wipe off fingerprints.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] aooga:
NOOOOO!!! Don't quote the entire OP!!!!!

You didn't even add any words! :confused:

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How expensive is it? ¥5,000 to usd (according to google) is $800. Thats not possible, is it?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
You converted Chinese Yuan instead of Japanese Yen :p

It's about $48 USD
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] DeKubus:
How long did you have to wait for your order to arrive? Ordered mine on 26th February, still nothing (Germany)...
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] TheQwertiest:
Ordered mine on 7th, got the package on 13th (Russia). Did you try contacting the seller? And did you order directly from their site (the one mention in OP) or through a reseller?
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] DeKubus:
I did not contact them before because I thought ~2 weeks is normal for a shipment from Asia. Started to get worried now though, especially becuase they billed me already and is past the magic 14 day barrier, so I sent them an inquiry just now. I did order it directly from the manufacturer. Thank you for your reply!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] TheQwertiest:
You are welcome (though you can click a thx button as well :P). As was stated by the OP, the actual customer support is great, so don't worry about your money - they won't scam you ;)

The time for delivery may differ greatly even for the orders to the same country and is impacted by a number of factors, such as plane's timetable, the amount of orders (i.e. thay are waiting for a certain number of orders to accumulate, so they could send them in a bulk) and etc =)
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] Winrahr:
For my second shipment they sent me the shipment form which had a tracking number on it so you can ask them for that as well
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] DeKubus:
Appearently express shipments from Japan are handled by multiple parties in Germany and there has been a misunderstanding between them which led to the delay. The order has actually arrived on March 1st. I can confirm that the customer service is indeed great. The response didn't even take 24 hours and was spot on.
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] peua79:
interesting, thank you.

I geto to decide to buy one!
[Xperia Z1 Accessories] sumerland:
Ordered mine on 11.3.(almost 12.3.) from Germany and received it on the 15th - super quick delivery! I just tore off the previous film (the original ASF is still in place) and put on the Crystal Armor. Looks great, matches the Z1's geometry very well and feels smooth. Time will tell how long it lasts.
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] aviris:
Been running 4.3.1 Slimbean since I got my phone. Decided to do a wipe to clean up the garbage and flashed the same version... now my SU binary is gone? Installed Superuser, can't get it. Uninstalled that and ran SuperuserSU, and that is asking for the update.zip to get it back. Can't find the standalone anywhere. Anyone else have this problem?
[Verizon HTC One (M7)] cmlusco:
Flash this thru recovery. http://download.clockworkmod.com/superuser/superuser.zip
[HTC One X] SponTen:
I unlocked my HTC One X using the HTC software, no problems.

Installed Cyanogenmod using the wiki install. It worked, but once it was installed, no computer would recognise my phone any more. I've tried installing several drivers using the Android SDK and the guides here (Latest HTC Drivers), here (How to solve ADB : 'Device Not Found' error in Android), and here ([HOWTO] Installing HTC Drivers for adb/fastboot on Windows 8). Nothing worked.

Stupidly, I thought it wouldn't matter much and left it. But yesterday I tried updating Cyanogenmod to the latest stable 10.2.1. It caused my phone to simply show the "HTC quietly brilliant" logo and the restart constantly.

I've tried doing a restore, which didn't work. I've tried doing a factory reset, but all it does is load Clockworkmod recovery. And I can't simply "push" a rom onto the phone using cmd because no computers recognise my phone.

The phone turns on and charges just fine, but it repeatedly tries to start up and restarts. I CAN use HBOOT, Fastboot, and recovery though.

Any suggestions? Would be greatly appreciated, thanks!
[HTC One X] lukes91:
install philz 5.15.9 recovery, so you can mount your hox as a disk drive then copy rhe rom on sd, flash it as usual and you'll be fine:)
[HTC One X] SponTen:
Thanks for your response. How can I install the recovery? I can't boot the phone and it won't register as connected on any of my computers.
[HTC One X] lukes91:
you said you can use fastboot, so put the phone in hboot and enter fastboot mode, download the recoveery and flash it via fastboot using this command:

fastboot flash recovery recovery.img

(adapt your command to the recovery name ;))
[HTC One X] SponTen:
Okay sweet, I managed to flash PhilZ recovery on. But when I try to mount the sd card, still nothing happens. I can flash stuff but I can't access the sd card from my pc.

I tried doing a factory reset using PhilZ but now the phone just sits on "HTC quietly brilliant" and doesn't start up, even after attempting to flash a new rom.
[HTC One X] lukes91:
you have to mount the sdcard, you will find the option in "mounts and storage" menu... after you do this, wait some mins... maybe it'll take a little time, but sdcard will get mounted :)

have you flashed boot.img via fastboot? if you don't do that, phone won't boot even if you flash rom zip...
[HTC One X] SponTen:
Thank you again for responding so quickly :)

I did find it and tried to mount it but it didn't work. I can wait for a while but it shouldn't take that long?

I have tried flashing a few different ROMs (boot.img) via fastboot but none of them work, still stuck on "HTC quietly brilliant".

Is there a way to force install a kernel and rom using fastboot or recovery, without mounting the sd card?
[HTC One X] lukes91:
yes, it might take 3-4 minutes to mount... anyway you don't have to mount sdcard to install a rom, only to copy it on sd to flash it later.... do the following steps in that order:

1) put the rom zip in sd if you don't have it yet (skip if you do)

2) enter fastboot and flash boot.img taken from zip

2a) fastboot flash boot boot.img

2b) fastboot erase cache

3) enter the recovery and choose "wipe to install a new rom"

4) select install zip from sdcard and install it (follow instructions)

5) first boot may take up to 10 mins, so be patient...

if you still have problems with that specfic rom, try another one and check if it boots... if you choose to install ViperX 4.0.6, search in th rom thread becuse some users have issues in flashing and you need to follow a particular procedure (i mean only wipe cache in recovery and full install in aroma)

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sorry, i didn't answer... yes, there is... it's name is adb sideload and you need a recovery supporting it... i've never used this method, so sorry, but i can't guide you :(
[HTC One X] SponTen:
Okay, FIXED now. I managed to restore the phone using some RUU and stock firmware packages. After that, I managed to flash ClockwordMod recovery - which actually allowed me to mount the sd card, which actually worked! So then it was an easy flash of kernel and install of CyanogenMod (for now).

Thank you so much for your help :D! Didn't even know I'd be able to mount from recovery until you mentioned it several posts above.
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] livelysins96:
Why all of a sudden is my resolution reading 1080x1776. When it used to be 1080x1920. I haven't changed the resolution. What happened..?

See screenshot...
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Makrilli:
The navigation bar eats those pixels.

Sent from my LG D802
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] livelysins96:
What do you mean?
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TheHaso:
The navbar don't count in as a display for picture

Little hard to explain. The navbar area on screen is like "buttons" and not "screen"
[G2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] epapsiou:
^^ That

But fullscreen movie will play at 1080x1920

Or you can hide navbar / reduce navbar size (but will need xposed)