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[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
The Moto G GPE is cheaper than any Nexus phone has ever been. My guess is this may be Google's way of making Motorola the default developer of Nexus devices by just calling their phone a GPE. And Motorola/Google is focused on having affordable phones so I don't see the price as being an issue. So maybe in 2016 we have 5-6 different GPE phones from different manufacturers and the Motorola one will basically replace the "Nexus" phone. At the end of the day it will not really matter other than the Nexus name being gone.

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Do we really need another Nexus 4/5 naming discussion? The Nexus 7 and 10 were named after their size. The Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 could easily have been too (we will likely never know). Naming is not an issue.
[Nexus 5 General] jonnyg1097:
I was thinking that they might go back to adopting the OEMs phone brands again like they did for the galaxy nexus. So if Sony was next they could do like a "xperia nexus". Not the most catching name but it works. Although more than likely people will still go by numbers to identify it
[Nexus 5 General] LeoRex:
Well.. is expect that Motorola will handle the nexus line if it stays.

By the way, the writer lost me at 'if there companies can push out software updates in a timely manner, there would be no reason to have a redundant nexus line'

Derp

First, waiting for updates on carrier laden releases can take forever.

Second, not everyone wants bloated versions of Android.
[Nexus 5 General] kailashnj:
Hats off to google if they are planning to stop this series of Nexus phones.

Nexus series though cheap, google has no direct control. With Motorola already in their arsenal and also creating good phones like to moto x and moto g, I am sure all new Google phones should and would be from Motorola.

Though they have signed a long term contract with Samsung, I am sure it won't be for the phones but for other tech like the glass could be mass produced and probably Google is also planning to launch something like the Galaxy Gear and hence this collaboration.

Hope all goes well and we see latest tech with the Google Moto combo.
[Nexus 5 General] BirchBarlow:
Even if the rumor is true, it doesn't mean they're going to stop selling affordable devices running vanilla Android. It probably just means they're going to drop the Nexus brand and sell the devices as Motorola.
[Nexus 5 General] DigitalUnderground:
Not true. The s4 has a very very similar CPU... Better camera... Better build quality (the s4 doesn't have a defects or RMA thread... Nexus has multiple). The only downfall to the s4 is touchwiz. [MENTION=4354408]broodplank1337[/MENTION] has an aosp 4.4.2 ROM that runs just as good on the s4 as KK does on our nexus.

The reason I don't like this is cuz I ran GPE Roms on my S4 and they still used a lot of touchwiz framework. If they do this, and remove carrier ui framework all together, and release true aosp on these high end devices, I'm all aboard. Nexus' are cheaply built and they take shortcuts to get a bargain phone. Everyone should want the best. If it costs too much, then you can get a new job or save money.
[Nexus 5 General] danarama:
Not really relevant. Many phones don't. The S3 didnt either, yet it had plenty of defects. It all depends if someone makes a thread or not.

The s4 was flagship though and the nexus is not high end. Its budget performance. But the S4 is older and can't keep up the performance.
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
i posted this in another thread, but i will repost it again.. well, since a russian blogger wrote it, and theres no background info about where he got the info, and all the news sites picked it up, and i am russian, then it must be true.
[Nexus 5 General] P.Mobile:
dam this is my first nexus phone and i LOVE it.. ill be super pissed if this is true.. i pray it is not true:(
[Nexus 5 General] rayiskon:
(...among other differences) Krait 300 vs 400. The S600 is actually more similar to S4 Pro than an S800.

The rest of the post (camera part) is subjective. Just let me add that the S4 has a lot of problems, from the black color smearing to tints and many other issues. Oh, and it LAGS, that's the biggest possible defect :good:
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Either way Google will offer a low cost phone on the Play Store with a pure Google experience. So I don't see the big deal no matter what they do.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Obvious clickbait 'story'...since there was a lull in Nexus news. When it comes from Google themselves I might believe it, but it would be a poor decision since vendors and Android benefit so much from the Nexus line and Google Experience.
[Nexus 5 General] matejdro:
Nexuses are great because there are so developer friendly.

GE phones might run pure android, but they will still be controlled by OEMs and their stupid S-OFF, locked bootloaders, proprietary blobs etc.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
The CPU in the S800 is similar to (but faster than) the CPU in the S600. The Adreno 330 GPU in the 800, however, is significantly faster than the Adreno 320 in the 600. As far as build quality goes, I'm somewhat amused by your claim that the S4 is better-built than the N5. I used the S4 exclusively for about 5 months and have been using the N5 exclusively for about 2 months now, and I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that the N5 has best build quality between the 2 phones (BY FAR). The fact that a very vocal minority of early adopters has had some issues with their first-run devices means precisely nothing.

I also sharply disagree with those who contend that this is a cheaply-built or "compromised" device just because Google sells it at a low (subsidized) price point. Maybe I got lucky with a non-glitchy unit, but in my opinion the supposed "issues" with this phone are hugely overblown.
[Nexus 5 General] Dx9:
Completely agree. Had an S4 since release day till Xmas eve when I got the Nexus 5. No way build quality is better on the S4. Love the Nexus. Best phone I have used by far.
[Nexus 5 General] hashcheck:
I have owned the S3 Note 2, Note 3.nexus 7 & nexus 10 and now the nexus 5 for my mobile and the nexus range has always been rock solid compared to Samsung and them now putting in the KNOX security for people that want to ROM but void warranty. The screen replacements on the note phones were $334aus and I broke both the note 2 & 3 mainly due too the size of the phone. Nexus for life now
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Exactly google has not commented yet on this and you know what they say about Russia.. everything is backwards

There's an old saying for example ( In Russia bullets dodge you)
[Nexus 5 General] CheesyNutz:
this was said before the N5 was released this is a stunt to get more traffic to there sight
[Nexus 5 General] GUGUITOMTG4:
It surprises me that we somehow didn't hear about that before today:cyclops:
[Nexus 5 General] drive7:
It'd make more sense for them to call it the Nexus 5 2014 than Nexus 6. I don't want a phablet.

From what I've seen, owner satisfaction among Nexus 5 users is very high, the Nexus archetype still provides the ideal benchmark for Android devices, and the Nexus brand has a sizeable core of power users. Not sure they'd want to give that up, unless those subsidies are really starting to hurt them.
[Nexus 5 General] Nexii:
God that is terrible for your blood pressure!

As to no more Nexus phones I call total BS. It would be stupid of Google to cut of something that made them so popular to begin with. Yeah they provide the OS, but they provide the hardware to show of the OS. It would be like Nike no longer making shoes, but providing shoe laces (horrible metaphor, but you get the idea.).
[Nexus 5 General] sirsmokey:
Dude you took the words right outta my head. :D

My N5 experience has been mad enjoyable. For what I paid I can honestly say I couldnt be happier. The build quality is solid , Google got rid of the horrid glass back. + launched the phone with the option of a Black or (storm trooper edition) White back .

The Phone for an almost 5 inch phone its slim sexy and so worth the CA$399 for a 32gb device.

My battery life was stellar to begin with but after a flash of Caulkins ROM, both the Bionic and Dalvik Optimization Mods my N5 is like the Energizer Bunny.

My only complaint would be the speakers on the bottom.

The price is what is amazing . Having a phone of this calibre and being able to afford it almost seem too good to be true . The price well below any Samsung, HTC , or Sony Flagship is set low so the everyman can experience not just Vanilla but Android as an OS in itself , a Supreme alternative for IOS Users (the main market consumers that Google want to lure away from Apple.

Some might that the google nexus 5 is cheaply built, based on price. I would say google has a great marketing department. :good:
[Nexus 5 General] Rusty!:
The point of Nexus devices is AOSP support. The number of GPe devices supported in AOSP? Zero.

Large pinch of salt required for this one, I think.
[Nexus 5 General] lowandbehold:
I think I agree with the blogger, but for different reasons. When Google bought Motorola, they made a promise to the OEM's that they wouldn't favor Motorola for the Nexus contract for a period of 3 years (I believe it was 3, may have been 2).

At the end of this year, that promised time is up. I don't think the "Nexus" line will disappear, but I do think that phones will be handled exclusively by Motorola and tablets will be contracted out.
[Nexus 5 General] Chad_Petree:
I don't want it to happen but as long as they make the google play devices available in all of the countries that can buy the nexus 5 right now I would be kinda ok with it, the thing is these google play editions are considerable more expensive than the nexus line :crying:
[Nexus 5 General] PJcastaldo:
The names of the phone has nothing to do with screen size.. why won't you guys give that up... 4th Nexus.. nexus 4 5th Nexus Nexus 5..there not tablets. Tablet manufactures have been including screen size in the name well before the N7 and Google just followed suit with their tablets...

I also disagree that the N5 is poorly built. Mines pretty damn solid. And battery life wasn't really any worse than my S4 even before rooting..

Either way I think this story is just b.s. to get people talking..
[Nexus 5 General] solarspeed:
Do not believe this Murtazin guy. The dude is an Apple fanatic (yes, to the point of worshipping), Nokia hater, illiterate blogger who goes bat**** crazy everytime someone calls him one because HE'S A JOURNALIST NOT A BLOGGER!!!!!11111oneoneone

I remember in one "article" he was reviewing x86 and ARM CPUs by comparing number of cores. WHAT A GENIUS!!! All-in-all, he's Perez Hilton of Russian mobile journalism.
[Nexus 5 General] CDKJudoka:
It sounds to me that they are just changing the name of the line, not doing away with it. It makes sense for Google to pull all of their products into line. Apple does it, why should Google be any different.
[Nexus 5 General] spacedandy:
Motorola devices will take over nexus lines. Don't worry Motorola mobility is Google company. The prices will be the same or even cheaper. All Motorola nexus lines will be stock android. Nexus 7 phone will be rename nexus moto or nexus droid. The reason nexus 7 is tablet lines. Either Google will axe nexus 7 tablets to make room for nexus 8. That mean nexus 7 phone will exist.
[Nexus 5 General] tokuzumi:
If the Nexus line as we know it disappears, I can easily see Motorola filling in that gap. Moto is finally starting to price the Moto X near the correct price. Then, there's the Moto G, which is dirt cheap, and is a damn good little phone. So, "Nexus" might change to "Moto", but that will be about the extent of the change.
[Nexus 5 General] Nexii:
I believe droid is off the table. Droid is a Verizon trademark isnt it?
[Nexus 5 General] tokuzumi:
Verizon is licensed to use the Droid name. Verizon doesn't own the name. I think they pay for the right to use the name from George Lucas, or whoever owns the name.
[Nexus 5 General] HDdarkmantis:
There will be NO Nexus 6!

A 6 inch phone?? It will be Nexus 5 (2014). Do you see the new Nexus 7 being called Nexus 8? No.
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
If the new OEM is Motorola for the Nexus line good for google its there company and they should utilize it.

LG has issues with supply/demand in the Nexus seeing the Nexus 4 and Nexus 5 out of stock for weeks and weeks

still though props for LG on design and making a nice phone :good:
[Nexus 5 General] WoodburyMan:
Bam. Both of you got it spot on. I had a AT&T S4 for 6 months before upgrading to the Nexus 5. Nothing on the S4 is better quality. The only advantage the S4 has is removable battery, which I miss dearly, and microSD card, which I can live without since I have a 64gb microSD using a meenova with USB-OTG. Even the camera takes better pictures despite being only 8MP and the S4 was 13MP. Much better quality sensor. The Nexus 5 also feels way more solid to me than the S4. The S4, when caseless, felt like I was holding a delicate toothpick of a phone, especially coming from a heavier brick of a iPhone4S to that. The Nexus just feels more rugged than the S4 did in my hand.
[Nexus 5 General] cellsafemode:
I think devices will just get more and more locked down like apple does. Android devices like nexus were only open to get people talking and using... Now than android is dominating the market, there is no need for any of these tinkerer features. And there is little risk of backlash by removing them and significant pressure by companies to lock devices down.

Just like how running aosp is practically pointless for phones post-gnexus since all devices require 50+ proprietary libs and most of the apps aren't actively or fully developed.

The future is going to remove customer control over the hardware. There is no reason they would not.
[Nexus 5 General] Lucke:
"Nexus 6" is also trademarked (i believe) by the creator of Blade Runner, although it refers to a completely different entity.

also, what makes you so sure that the next Nexus would follow a size nomenclature? that has NEVER been the case...

Nexus One did not have a 1" screen

Nexus S did not have a S" screen

Galaxy Nexus did not have a galaxy sized screen

Nexus 4 had a 4.7" screen, not a 4", but is also the 4th gen Nexus phone

Nexus 5 has a ~5" screen, but is also the 5th gen Nexus phone

tablets are following a completely different nomenclature and should not be included in the same discussion as the phones.
[Nexus 5 General] maxpower7:
Samsung is definitely moving in that direction, which is a big part of the reason I now own a Nexus device. I realize that I'm not a typical smartphone consumer by any stretch of the imagination, but I really don't see Google doing away with the Nexus program entirely. It's too important to them as a marketing tool and establishing their brand identity in the smartphone space. Maybe Nexus devices aren't huge sellers, but they definitely get a ton of press in the tech world.
[Nexus 5 General] daLareid:
Most people nowadays are way too gullible and this ghost writers are just suckers for views even if they haven't the faintest of information accuracy or source reliability.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
Correct price? What the Moto X is going for now is a steal. It boggles my mind why some people think the Moto X is a mid-range phone. It is a proper flagship, and is every bit as high end as the flagships from other companies, even more so with all the innovation Moto poured into it. I had both the GS4 and the HTC One before going to the X, and I'll take the X over either of those any day. It's faster, smoother, has way better battery life, super innovative features, and vastly superior software. The X has hands down the best out of box experience of any phone I've ever owned. I still like it better than my Nexus 5, and I LOVE my Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 General] Lucke:
sorry, but the specs don't seem to back up your opinions.

as a brand new phone, it's got mid range specs (1.7GHz S4 Pro and Adreno 320 GPU) compared to the new phones with a 2.3GHz+ Snapdragon 800 and at least an Adreno 330

it's a great phone, and it utilizes it's severely underpowered internal components very effectively, but it's not up to par with the top end phones (spec wise). i've used my friends for a bit and like it a lot... but it can't hold a torch to the N5 or any other phones released around the same time.
[Nexus 5 General] _MetalHead_:
The X8 SOC is more advanced than the standard S600 that is in the GS4 and HTC One. The CPU utilizes the exact same Krait 300 cores as the S600, there are just two less of them. There are very few situations that utilize all 4 cores so this is less of a compromise than what most people think. It also has the two extra contextual processors for the always listening and active display. And it has the same GPU as the previously mentioned phones as well which is why I said that the X is as much of a flagship as those two. Motorola optimized the hell out of everything to make it run perfectly on the X8, which is what Apple does for its iPhone (dual core + 1gb RAM) and nobody calls the iPhone mid-range. Specs aren't everything, but user experience is, and the UX on the Moto X just blows that of the GS4 and HTC One out of the water. If those are still considered high end phones, than there is no reason why the X shouldn't be. And I have both the Moto X and N5 sitting right here, and arbitrary benchmark numbers aside, I can tell you that the X can definitely keep up. I use both of them daily and the N5 is only marginally faster, and it's only noticeable when the two are side by side. So saying that it can't hold a torch to the N5 is an inaccurate statement.

Some people are way to obsessed with specs. Nowadays a faster processor can only go so far. That's why Motorola looked outside the box when they designed the Moto X. What they came up with is hands down the most innovative Android phone since the HTC Evo 4G. Even with the N5 in hand, I think the Moto X is the best smartphone ever made.
[Nexus 5 General] GUGUITOMTG4:
All of that made sense but not anymore since Google may be selling Motorola to Lenovo:eek::(

http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/01/29/us-google-lenovo-idUSBREA0S1YN20140129
[Nexus 5 General] Melamunna:
So one person magically guesses release dates etc. and now because he shares his opinion, many tech sites think he's 100% accurate?
[Nexus 5 General] simms22:
no, hes about 50% accurate. he gets many things wrong as well. just by guessing, you can be 50% accurate also ;)
[Nexus 5 General] LeoRex:
So much for the rumors of the nexus's demise... if they sell Motorola, then we're back to square one.

As long as there is a device as good as my 5 in circulation, I'm fine with whoever makes it. If you keep LG away from the software, they make great stuff. :)
[Nexus 5 General] bloot:
If Google gives up with the Nexus line after selling Motorola (confirmed today), then Android future looks really apocalyptic (Samsung, Sony, HTC, LG user interfaces...).

I'm better off taknig the wp or ios train if that happens.
[Nexus 5 General] wideasleep1:
Naw...there will always be an alternative device running an alternative OS. I'd buy an Amazon phone before I'd buy any microshat or iCrap.
[Nexus 5 General] md1008:
Except the nexus 4 was larger than 4 and the nexus 5 is just under 5 inches. I find it hard to believe nexus phones is called by the screen size. Obviously nexus tablets are

Justice for Kelly Thomas RIP

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I just don't see Google giving their vision of the way google should run to OEMS. Besides obviously if that happens CM will be the next "developer" phone although cm is not aosp but neither is the Nexus more like GAOSP especially since Nexus is replacing aosp apps with closed source gapps

Justice for Kelly Thomas RIP
[Nexus 5 General] alamarco:
Google definitely made interesting moves today.

The weirdest move was giving up Motorola. Motorola was finally making waves and on the up so I figured things were finally working for them. It might be a case of Google selling high, but I think Motorola were quickly becoming the next best line after the Nexus line.

Which leads me the news with the Nexus line. The Nexus 5 was my first Nexus device. I moved from the iPhone 4 to the Samsung Note 2 to the Nexus 5. The Samsung Note 2 was my first Android device and it left me extremely frustrated. The device itself was superb, but the lack of support and updates left me wanting. The Samsung Note 2 didn't even have lockscreen widgets as it was stuck on 4.1.2.

Why is my Samsung Note 2 experience important? If it wasn't for the Nexus line I would probably have moved back to the iPhone. I'm absolutely loving the ease of use with my Nexus 5. Unlocking and rooting was extremely easy since Google doesn't restrict you. AFAIK, nothing is as easy as a Nexus device. Rooting my Samsung Note 2 was a pain. It was doable, but a lot more effort involved. Not sure I'd want to go that route again. Especially since I would need to install a custom ROM to rid myself of TouchWiz.

I don't know what the future holds. So saying this is the demise of Android, as some are mentioning, is a little premature. Personally, the future doesn't look as bright as it did, but we will all have to play the waiting game and see what else happens. :)
[Nexus 5 General] aooga:
I don't like what Google is doing now. I'm really tempted to go with Apple next time if this is true. I really liked that Moto was now owned by Google and stock android was becoming more popular. Now Moto is going away (think what Lenovo did with IBM Thinkpads...no more IBM). What I really don't like is that all the new jobs in the Texas factory are now gone (or will be soon...read the droid life article). I feel sorry for those people. Google is getting greedy now and I'm not liking it. But hey, at least we have choice. If I don't like it, I can just buy another phone (made easier by having tmobile).

I really wanted to like the Moto X too...made in America and a great device. Sadly, it had way too many hardware problems for me.

so confused :confused:

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All true :)

The only iPhone I ever had was the 5S and iOS 7 ruined it for me. The only reason I have been with android phones is I didn't like apple's business practices, but now I guess Google and Apple are switching. Apple is becoming more open and Google is becoming less open. I don't really have any "loyalty" to any brand, so it makes a switch (hopefully not, but who knows) easier.
[Nexus 5 General] markdapimp:
Google needed to keep Motorola for its patents that it owns by selling them lenovo could sell it also and for all we know it could end up in the wrong hands and bite Google in the ass

Edit looks like they still own some patents

http://mobile.theverge.com/2014/1/29/5358620/lenovo-reportedly-buying-motorola-mobility-from-google

As for the nexus line going away I dont think so google makes money by delivering ads across many platforms android is the major role in this where it connects with other google services
[Nexus 5 General] GUGUITOMTG4:
Yep, It was largely talked that Google bought Moto for it's portfolio full of important papers for $12.5 Billions and now selling for 1/4. (Remember Moto was fighting with blackberry for the deepest whole in the cementery:angel:).... And Motorola mobility is not the whole company... It makes a lot of sense that they kept a huge amount important patents. Not everyday somebody decides to lose 9 billions on a trade for not reason. Something may be coming soon.