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[Moto X General] hp79:
Do you guys think Lenovo will keep the Moto X updated? I have a Moto X coming it's way, but I'm worried about future updates now.

Lenovo's other Android phones looks like they don't ever get updated, but I don't know because I never tried a Lenovo phone.

About the updates, even though it's close to AOSP, moto x has custom chips that work together. It would be less of a problem if it was same'o snapdragon 600 or 800 like everyone else, but moto x has these other chips in them. Wouldn't that delay the software updates? And if Lenovo is not committed enough, I would be worried. I usually keep my phone for 2 years, so updates are important.
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
Not one single person outside of Moto's execs know the answer to this question. Anyone who claims to know is 100% guessing.

So, that said, my guess? Updates will continue just as normal. A corporate transaction doesn't instantly mean OS updates grind to a halt overnight....or ever, frankly.

Moto never had a direct line of favoritism to Google, although people love to think that. They just worked their butts off to deliver a superb user experience by issuing OS updates fast.

Lenovo buying them will not mean that innovation and drive instantly halts. Everyone needs to relax. That or angrily sell your X to someone who will enjoy it.
[Moto X General] alpha-niner64:
Lenovo isn't a bad company. They're probably the better chinese companies out there. Solid laptops and when the company does good: the CEO gives everyone bonuses. That said. I like my Moto X because it represents the ideals of software before the specs; the original Nexus-dream. I'm not bothered by the buyer here because I like Lenovo products. What I don't like is Google..I'm disappointed that Google isn't showing faith in Motorola. To anyone else who feel the same way, it's all the more reason to keep your Moto Xs, not sell them. To remind people of those that tried to bring the 'smart' back in 'smartphone'.
[Moto X General] Jersey846:
From American made to Chinese. Wow. Couldn't be a more polar opposite. I didn't know Lenovo was Chinese. Bummer.
[Moto X General] brian Marshall:
no according to the trolls in this thread you are irate, foaming at the mouth and in the streets shouting, throwing your phone and screaming because of.... some incomprehensible blabber while projecting their assumptions about YOU and their own narrative without actually listening.

That's how the interwebs work afterall. :D
[Moto X General] -A-P-M-:
Damn I had very high hopes for Motorola because I really liked support and everything related to Moto X. I even expected to buy non Nexus phone this year - Moto X successor. But now Im very disappointed. I guess Google doesnt care about Android. With Motorola they could "destroy" Apple.
[Moto X General] Jason.DROID:
You don't buy a company for a few billion and trash the brand equity associated with it. It's why Lenovo kept the ThinkPad name, and they'll also keep Motorola where it is relevant (like here in the U.S.).

This will take 6-12 months to finalize, so settle down.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
First of all Lenovo is awesome, they will be the best thing for Motorola and I am certain that Google will still have a relationship with them.

Secondly I predict Google will buy Lenovo within 2 to 3 years. Right now Google was spreading themselves quite thin and trying to fix an aspect of a business they know little about. They want and need to get in the hardware game but Lenovo can benefit Motorola more for now. Let Lenovo build Motorola up and once it starts to become profitable, acquire the company you sold it to. My timeframe coincides with when the last nexus will be built as well.

MotoX Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock with tweaks, now with even more great Britain than ever 4.4.2!
[Moto X General] EVOSerb:
Here is quick solution: T-Mobile will pay ETF to break a contract and it will buy your current phone. Buy nexus 5 if you don't feel like keeping this phone for 2 more years. And you can get a new phone every 6 months.
[Moto X General] EddyOS:
One of the most ridiculous statements in this thread!

Of course they care about Android, it's one of Google's cash cows. What they don't seem to care about, though, is being in the hardware game. I'd imagine they're quite happy to leave that to Samsung, HTC, LG, etc.

What is surprising is the price - that's quite a loss! Shame, as the Moto X looked quite good but it was never going to compete with the Nexus range and with it being an almost US exclusive the brand looks set to stay that way :(
[Moto X General] vtmike:
Not really related to the thread topic, but my wife buying a fiat 500 approximately a year ago was a huge mistake. It was in the shop about a quarter of the time we owned it and took a huge hit in resale value when selling it a year later. Funny enough I had a neon srt4 that was built in the same factory that was a solid reliable car with good resale.

I would think twice about buying any car associated with fiat again.
[Moto X General] Niiik:
I just read the news today. That reminds me of an old phone in our family, rather the first 'mobile' we had was Motorola T180. It still works, but the battery is dud. It was a great one. :)
[Moto X General] Mayze23:
I hope this news article is true about the Texas plant

http://m.keranews.org/?utm_referrer=#mobile/44575
[Moto X General] syathibiy:
It's a good news indeed, as long as Lenovo doesn't screw up. And the news that Google will stop making Nexus devices is even better. So that people won't keep comparing Motorola devices with Nexus devices. It's annoying
[Moto X General] R3dbeaver:
http://feedly.com/e/KDN3mP0y

Good read. Seems like Lenovo been eyeing Moto for a while now...
[Moto X General] :
There is an astonishing amount of ignorance and short-sightedness in response to this news.

To be clear, I am disappointed by this news. I have always liked Motorola phones, and had hoped the tight ties with Google would help Motorola continue to produce quality software, and ensure a good quality Android phone that wasn't cheap plastic and wasn't bloated with crapware like Sense or TouchWiz.

That said, the idea that you should sell or return your phone because Lenovo will own them is stupid. What has changed? Why is the Moto X any less desirable a phone now? The deal is going to take a long time to finalize, and there's no reason to believe that this signifies any kind of change in direction for Motorola. Frankly, Lenovo keeps a lot of US infrastructure and I think this might be a good match.

To suggest this means Google doesn't care about Android is ridiculous. This on the heels of Google's deal with Samsung shows they care a whole lot about Android - enough to take a loss on the sale of a company in order to create and keep a good relationship with the #1 seller of Android devices.
[Moto X General] detonation:
I think all of your are over estimating the amount of influence Google had on Motorola. For the last two years we continually heard about "the firewall" between the two companies. Yes, after the inquisition Google switched up some of the senior management, but with the new personnel it was still Motorola themselves that were responsible for the positive change the company took, and from what it looks like it will still be that same Motorola, just under Lenovo instead of Google.

Based on the terms of the deal, it's clear Google bought Moto for the patents. Sure Motorola's newest devices were the fastest to get update to KK, but I believe that's more due to the fact they run mostly stock Android and they only really have one main device on the market so there's no politics involved (such as delaying an update to force sales of something else, Verizon's favorite move).

Lenovo may be a little more aggressive with Motorola than Google was, since they actually bought them for their hardware and smartphone business rather than just patents, but I don't see much changing. I just bought a Moto X and will happily continue using it until something better comes out.
[Moto X General] blueice5249:
Everyone's reaction is valid, BUT the Moto X will BARELY be impacted, if AT ALL. People need to remember, this isn't like an ebay sale. Google can't just sell Motorola to Lenovo, wipe its hands clean, and walk away the next day. This type of thing has to go through A TON of government channels and political red tape before it can be finalized. My guess is, we won't see any real changes that impact the consumer for about a year.By that time, the Moto X would be on its way to retirement anyways.

The real question, however, is what does Google have up their sleeve? Think about it, within a week we get rumors that Nexus is dead and then they sell Motorola for a fraction of what they bought it for.

What did they not sell? A bunch of patents and Project Ara. This could mean that Google is looking to pursue Project Ara further and push that out!
[Moto X General] :
I'd say nexus sales make it not worth the effort....mostly to the phone makers making them. I know lots of people....and have yet to come across a nexus phone owner. Tablets yes....but not phones. I think most of nexus phone sales are rooters...and that's a very very small handful of consumers. I said very right? Lol

Also, from what I've been seeing....Google is tightening things up it seems.....leaning in the apple direction.....the nexus line counteracts this slow change.

Just my opinion. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
[Moto X General] goducks3620:
gah. As an economist (I actually am one :eek:) this makes sense to me, but as an Android user I'm not so keen on it. The things I like about this phone is that it's so integrated compared to other Android phones, the form factor and multiple processors etc work so very well with the OS. This forum is full of comments about how benchmark tests don't mean much on the X, it just WORKS. I can see why Apple fanboys like their iPhones so much after getting the Moto X. I had hopes that Motorola would continue in that direction, but it's harder to see that when Google doesn't own them anymore.

and yes, "assembled in the USA" is nice, but there's a solid chance that will continue if they want to keep customizable phones as a Motorola selling point.
[Moto X General] LNJ:
Say what you guys want, first thing Lenovo will do is to try and make Moto it's own by installing bloat and it's own skin.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Moto X General] ericshmerick:
Teach us more please.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
I'm also hoping that this means Motorola will be allowed to make the next/last nexus without Google being declared playing favorites. I would have kept my nexus 5 if the hardware wasn't made so horribly by lg

MotoX Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock with tweaks!
[Moto X General] h1ghland3r:
The same here.

Sent from my Lenovo X
[Moto X General] :
That's why I never bought a nexus phone. Short cuts. LOL. Well, I do like my N7.

So I'll shut up. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Lots of stupid people in here lol. Nothing changed and no one knows if anything will change in the future. Moto X was always a phone from Motorola NOT Google, and updates were not from Google as well, and its pretty clear already that updates are not as fast as Nexus or any GE device
[Moto X General] Julianocas:
BTW, since Moto X is a last year device, what can we expect for this year device? Or Lenovo will ask Motorola to hold new releases?
[Moto X General] aptalca:
I was really close to buying a Moto X with the Valentine's day special. I changed my mind. I don't have faith in Lenovo continuing what Moto/Google have built in terms of the experience quality.

Rant on:

I am tired of waiting forever for updates, having to flash roms to get rid of Verizon and Samsung's crap and to fix things like wake lag (the most annoying thing I experienced on any smart phone, imagine having to wait up to 2 sec every time you try to turn the screen on)

I got my wife the Moto X and even without a rom, it is how I would want it to be.

Not to mention, it is the only Nexus-like device with a Nexus-like price for Verizon.

I loved the fact that Motorola's own software actually built upon and improved Google's services rather than being built from scratch and trying to compete with Google's (ie. Samsung's S Voice, S beam, AllShare, etc. all crappy attempts)

I am tired of not being able to buy a phone from a manufacturer at reasonable prices, and having to buy them at inflated prices from Verizon (They charge $350 for a basic feature phone where the GSM version can be had for $30-40 from the manufacturer because it probably costs $15-20 to manufacture. That should be illegal).

Moto X was the first phone for Verizon that had it all. I had high hopes. Yes, I realize things aren't going to change right away and the phone is still the same. But if I am planning on using this new phone for more than a year, I believe things will change then. And with a locked bootloader on the customized versions, no hopes for custom roms (yet).

I am really considering switching to T-Mobile, but I don't know how their coverage is in my area, and I am still holding onto my grandfathered unlimited data with Verizon, which works really well (I use about 5-6GBs every month thanks to Google Play Music all Access)

/Rant off
[Moto X General] robstunner:
You guys should check out the moto x community on Google+. It's a complete rant fest
[Moto X General] matt99017d:
I wonder if they will keep the current location in TX and motomaker .....?

Sent from non rooted motoX :'(
[Moto X General] mtvdeo:
Approval from gobernment will take 9 months so until SEPTEMBER or OCTOBER it is still a google company. If you buy a moto X/G now, you will get 9 months worth of updates, that's half of the promised 18 month upgrades they promised.

Lenovo bought ThinkPad and kept things as they were, and then it became huge. They are top seller for a reason!

Thing is...Motorola is and will remain as an American company (for those who care). It started in America and its headquarters will remain in America according to Lenovo's CEO. So why worry about it?

Then, companies have 18 to 24 month roadmaps so until 2015 we will get products like what we have seen now.

I have to confess that I was freaking out yesterday, but someone who knows about the android game told me this is definitely related to the Samsung and Google agreement. And that killing Motorola was an option too.

So, be thankful lenovo came into the picture.
[Moto X General] :
This sale is completely meaningless in the Moto x's support lifespan. It won't change a thing for us in the less than year we have left for updates. And after...custom roms. Again...nothing to do with who owns Motorola.

And if you are worried for some reason cause you can't unlock your boot loader....again...nothing to do with who owns Motorola. Your fate was sealed when you bought it....as far as after support life goes.

So selling it or suddenly deciding not to buy the X cause of the sale, has no basis. Nothing is going to change for what's left for X updates in less than a year.

Don't want to ever buy another Motorola because they may have bloat or a new skin like touchwiz or whatever. Fair enough. I might not buy those phones either.

Butttttttt.....the sale will have zero effect on the Moto x. So please can we stop the sinking ship talk.

Enjoy your phone....til you get another.

K....unsubscribing to this thread now....tho I'll miss the entertainment. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
[Moto X General] Jayrod1980:
Love my moto x. As long as they keep up the same direction, my next phone will likely be another Motorola! BTW, Larry Page said that he liked their lineup for 2014, so they obviously already have their new product in the wings. Regardless, this could be awesome... Now we will maybe finally get a Motorola Nexus! That was NEVER going to happen with Google owning them.

For all that are bashing lenovo and spelling out doom, those crap mediatek phones and all that were never meant to be sold outside their domestic market. The average household income of a family in China is much much lower than here. Even though they have 4x the population of the US, theres a very small percentage that can afford to spend 500-700 USD on a phone.

My worthless opinion is that they keep the moto line as it is and use it to sell premium phones in north America and Europe.
[Moto X General] dandroid13:
I'm not a Moto X user but this thread is too much fun to read. And yes, there are a lot of ignorant people out there in "developed America". LOL

Enviado do meu Galaxy S4
[Moto X General] Schaweet:
Finally some sanity after 16 pages of mostly ridiculousness.

Sent from my Dev Edition Moto X
[Moto X General] danger2u:
i ordered a bamboo Moto x

i think this phone is the best phone out untill now and the active display,high audio,good battery,touchless control,motorola assist make the differences to other phones

hope they keep going in this way with moto x and improve battery to high capacity,5 inch display and more solid like metal,glass or alumium construction for Moto x 2.

btw the users are not so happy.go to lenovo facebook page to see the coments :))
[Moto X General] trentonmc24:
I'm just mad for the American families that work for Motorola and the Chinese slaves that have to build these phones for peanuts. Something needs to be done.
[Moto X General] jimmyhauser:
It's still a bummer that the American manufacturer that basically invented the mobile phone is now going to be part of a Chinese company.

FWIW--I have owned two Thinkpads; both had hardware failures.
[Moto X General] Steve-x:
It really did seem like a positive to have a phone designed and assembled in the US, and it is a killer phone to boot. I'm not American or located in the US but was thrilled to see it happen. Hopefully as much as possible stays in the US.

What can I say, I'm a long time Motorola fan and remember the glory days.
[Moto X General] rebretz000:
I'm extremely bummed also that Google dropped Motorola to join up with Samsung. (As I saw someone else said at this point Samsung has more control of the Android Eco-System than Google).

Now Google is going to turn over their hardware division to Nest as well.

But everyone does realize the Lenovo already has an assembly plant in North Carolina as well as 3 other office locations. Since Moto-maker seemed to be a big hit I see them moving assembly there.

Especially since rumors point to Google using the Texas plant for project Ara.
[Moto X General] :
I would assume they're sensible enough for that, but everything has been turned upside-down, so it's hard to be so trusting.
[Moto X General] ardoreal:
This is a betrayal from Google, honestly. I bought into what was going on. They were taking control of Android back and were staring down Samsung with the potential to fix the bloatware/skinning problem. They were investing in our country and helping raise the bar while doing it.

Then they sold out to the devil, they cut a deal with Samsung, sold the Moto business to China (where we can expect spyware on Moto phones when they get that going), and abandoned the services Moto was integrating into the Google services side of things.

The knife in my back hurts. It hurts bad enough that I don't know that I want to continue using Android anymore as a matter of principal. Who do I go to, Apple, Nokia, Blackberry? They all have faults but not outright betrayal. I know Google didn't sit down and think of ways to betray us, but in the manner they acted I feel betrayed.
[Moto X General] :
I'll buy your X....or trade my wife's 4s for it. ;)

Sent from my Moto X cellular telephone...
[Moto X General] someguyatx:
Great interview several posts above. This deal could be wonderful for competition. Nothing like a new player to shake things up a bit and make the other guys step up their game.
[Moto X General] SymbioticGenius:
MotoX GSM Developer Edition, Bootloader Unlocked, Rooted, Stock 4.4.2 Great Britain on T-Mobile !
[Moto X General] Jason.DROID:
Capitalism is exploitative. That's how it works. Make a product for the lowest possible cost (i.e. cheap labor) and sell it for a considerable profit. It's why American companies outsourced manufacturing (and call centers, reducing other American jobs, etc.). There isn't anything to be proud of with American companies; it's hard to forgive the American banking firms (incl. investment banking) that tanked our economy (and put the world in a recession); sure, we do have some great American companies like Google, but on the whole, American jobs are seen as a hemorrage on companies' bottom line (we're just numbers on a balance sheet). They'll do what they need to survive in a global marketplace where some countries manipulate their currency to favor exports.

If you want phones made with high cost labor, be prepared to pay much more for a product or longer product cycles to recoup the cost.

The end.
[Moto X General] trentonmc24:
That's just it, I'd gladly pay more for a phone that was made in America, which would help support American families be able to afford nice luxuries like an American made smartphone and other things.

The way it is now, basically it's like slavery didn't end, they just moved it to third world countries out of sight. Those who say the Chinese are getting paid and that it's not slavery, while technically true, they still are forced to live like slaves with the few dollars a day they earn.

I know how it is, and that's just how it works, but I feel it needs to change. It probably will someday, once the Chinese has enough of our money to make us work like slaves.
[Moto X General] ardoreal:
Well it's a motomaker x, I could remove my name from it. Thing is that I'm probably just going to go back to the world of a jailbroken iOS. Outside of Android there's really not much being developed. BlackBerry has had 0.0% of the new activations this past quarter, so I hardly see any developers going that direction. I also just can't bring myself to WP 8, no matter how fantastic the Lumia 1020's camera is.

Ugh.
[Moto X General] flashallthetime:
You would think this is Monday morning in Seattle after the broncos win the super bowl, people relax. Doom and gloom:D:D:D:D

Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet :) :)
[Moto X General] Jersey846:
Ah good. Just what the doctor ordered. A lecture in politics.
[Moto X General] kirdroid:
It's doom and gloom alright... But you got the place wrong :)

Go Hawks.
[Moto X General] flashallthetime:
1 for broncos

1 for seahawks

Sent on my Lenoto A2109 tablet :) :)
[Moto X General] Jason.DROID:
I know. I completely understand. The Chinese government isn't supportive of their plight, but if all of their workers striked in protest of the 12-16 hours days with pay of pennies on the dollar, it'd be extremely disruptive. Maybe they'll find their voice someday and stand for better working conditions and wages. It has to come from within because China is extremely defensive about human rights violations. Honestly, if I had to work like that, I'd probably give up. Not even our worst convicts get treated like that.

Samsung gives you 32 seconds to assemble a phone in Brazil, for example.

See here: http://crave.cnet.co.uk/mobiles/samsung-accused-over-harsh-labour-conditions-in-brazil-50011986/

But, corporations will just invest elsewhere, like India where another billion people currently reside.
[Moto X General] Faruko:
Thats one great interview :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] LakersDroid:
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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] daryllh:
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