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[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
I Started a Thread [How To] Fix OtterX Install Errors, Partition sizes, Unable to Mount System... with some possible fixes for those having issues since converting to OtterX, with pushing files, failure to mount system errors when installing Lollipop Roms...

Partitions all should say Present: Yes

System: Current file System: Ext4 - Size: 751MB (768MB)

Cache: _Current File System: Ext4 - Size: 503MB (512MB)

Data:__Current File System: _ f2fs - Size: 5820MB (5880mb)
[Kindle Fire General] dokie80:
Afaik, KF can not be bricked. Haha. You ll need to flash using fastboot command. Wait for an expert for more detailed instruction.

Here is some guide for fastboot in general (i think)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2277112
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
OtterX Project: Bootloader v2.05

First of all I'm not an expert about this. I just installed few ROM's to my kindle before a long time ago. This is all experience I have :) So sorry for any possible misunderstandings :)

I think I bricked my Kindle and donno what to do now. I tried everything but it just didn't work. PC doesn't recognize Kindle now. So any unbrick software doesn't work also.

Here what I did before I bricked the device:

I was going to flash OtterX Bootloader, after downloading the zip file I applied the zip file in recovery. After it finished there was a "done" message so I restarted the device. And it started restarting again and again. First there were 3 options at the bottom so I was able to choose recovery option. But even if I choose that option it didn't have any effect and kept restarting the device. Now I have nothing but Kindle Fire text on the screen and it restarts itself forever. Until I hold down the power button and shut it down.

As mentioned above, I tried so many methods that I could find on the internet but none of them worked. Also again, my pc doesn't recognize my kindle, but before it did.

If there is any solution for this, I will be soooo happy :)

Waiting for your helps 7/24 ! :D
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Try charging with a wall charger.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
Already tried..
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Tried with kindle powered off, send flash commands, power on, like in my video

Flashing Twrp in FFF bootloader with fastboot.exe
[Kindle Fire General] dokie80:
Before you try to flash otterx rom, what was your previous ROM?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Did it look like this

or this
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
None of them... I'll upload a picture when I get home. But I can say that there is only Kindle Fire logo on the screen. No options visible at the bottom.
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
No, the one that had the options.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
Ah sorry for misunderstanding. Yes it looked like that. Which means I flashed OtterX Boot well but something went wrong afterwards donno what.

Btw thanks for your help I really appriciate it. That's why I love XDA :)
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Which one? 1st or 2nd
[Kindle Fire General] Pig Vomit:
I'm an outsider looking in who hasn't tried OtterX yet, but it sounds to me like akilmaf doesn't have drivers installed properly. Sometimes fresh perspective helps. It also helps that Monday I spent much of the day re-flashing CM on my back-to-stock 1st gen and had driver issues of my own.

As an aside----damn you, Sirius and Amazon, for killing the SiriusXM app for stock 1st gen KF---the only thing I use my KF for. So back to slow as heck CM but at least I can use the SiriusXM app on the KF.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
This one but without the options now. :

[IMG="1st"]https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/90c7lTrWfz8faknzKd6wbTILkVVsNXJUhYZtJMlOorqtATzoauvMmp5BelZwzgnCjXrnUHO1sitqgiFGcoiTijN4gq7-ThDUVWfklpmYwAONGcOHGnGiZOxSJq9Mmt0T1Ytd268[/IMG]

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I already installed drives before and it worked well buddy :)
[Kindle Fire General] dokie80:
what was your previous rom installed?

that one is fff bootloader.

i suggest you to : (assuming ur ROM is old)

1. downgrade your bootloader, use fastboot to flash fff uboot bootlader v1.4a (attached, download and extract the zip)

2. reboot and see if you can enter TWRP, if not try to use fastboot again to flash other version of twrp (we ll need to know ur previous rom. kitkat use twrp 2.6.x.... below using 2.2.2.1)

3. if the bootloader works, and you can enter twrp, follow instruction here : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2671619

basically u ll need to flash otterx twrp, repartition to otterx partition using otterx bootloader, format the partition, push rom and gapps using adb command, flash rom and gapps using otterx twrp..

follow the instruction very carefully, do EXACTLY as instructed.

good luck
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
My old ROM was standart Kindle ROM.

And I can not downgrade my bootloader because PC doesn't recognize my device. It just charges it. So I can't put files in my device, use TWRP etc. It just keeps restarting. Hope we find a solution for it.

Still thanks for your interest guys.
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
That's FireFireFire bootloader not OtterX bootloader.

You have tried different USB cables, USB ports, PCs?

Powering Off, connect cable to kindle first, then PC?

Guessing bootloader is corrupted, see

UnBrick Corrupted Bootloader with Short Pin to force the Kindle Fire to boot over USB.

[ROOT][WIP] root 6.2.1 / install TWRP

and

Firekit LiveUSB repair kit 1.1- when you're about to kill Windows.
[Kindle Fire General] dokie80:
Try Kindle fire utility. That utility never fail me on otter. I still use its files for driver, ADB, and fastboot
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
Ok after using another PC somehow I reached boot menu again and now I am able to use TWRP interface.

My pc is recognizing my device again :

[IMG="dm"]http://s9.postimg.org/mrvc28zun/image.jpg[/IMG]

Now as I see I only have TWRP v2.2.2.1 on my device.

What can I do after this step?

Thanks for your helps.
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
try Mount>check sd card>Mount USB Storage

does a removeable disc show up in computer folder?

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Please don't edit your posts, I do not always go back a re-read posts after I have already replied.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
Yeah Mount USB works now. Btw sorry for editing, I didn't know you'd answer that fast. Didn't want to bother with extra messages.
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
No worries

download and copy zip-otterx-twrp-2.7.1.0-recovery.zip and otterx-u-boot_v2.05.zip to sd card

install both, do not reboot if there were errors, post any errors here,

if they both install ok, reboot then follow steps in my video in [How To] Fix Otter X Install Errors, Partition sizes, Unable to Mount System...
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
That's weird.. I downloaded the files you mentioned. The device was off, now when I choose recovery boot the device shuts down just like before :/
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Which bootloader version?
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
v2.05
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
2.2.2.1 does not work well with otterx bootloaders

Flash 2.7.1.0 with fastboot.exe see

[Video] Flashing TWRP in OtterX bootloader
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
[update]

I was able to reach TWRP again and I successfully installed otterx bootloader 2.05 and twrp 2.7.1.0. Now I have twrp 2.7.1.0 and bootloader 2.05.

I'll follow the instructions you gave me afterwards.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
SOLVED!

Thank you so much. Now I have my cool ROM with gapps (Flashed cm-11-20150614-NIGHTLY-otterx.zip) . Testing the device, no problems so far. I really appreciate for your helps. So these are all experiences to learn more :)
[Kindle Fire General] kornklown69:
the proper way to page around here is to add an @ sign and then a person's name like [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION]
[Kindle Fire General] lovejoy777:
[MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] please help:) is that the way?
[Kindle Fire General] :
Yes, that's called a mention. It sends an e-mail notification
[Kindle Fire General] lovejoy777:
gotcha. cheers fella's just awaiting a reply from god now then :)
[Kindle Fire General] micl9:
Awesome idea hashcode. So this is along the same lines as the datamedia builds for the HP touchpad. Makes sense to go with the flow of Android and optimize the file system to match.

Back to the original KF OS?! - go BIG or go home.

As for Branding - whatever you choose is the best choice, I am more interested in the added functionalities you are proposing.

I love old devices that devs such as yourself keep relevant - THANK YOU!!!!!!!
[Kindle Fire General] TrojanDad:
Way to go!

I will patiently wait for OtterX to come forth
[Kindle Fire General] Hashbang173:
I don't know why but I think a seaotter should go in the logo. Or another picture. I think we should have something more than text.

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Despite my signature I have a kindle fire 1st gen
[Kindle Fire General] Hashcode:
Thought I'd drop this off in case folks were still following progress..

Couple quick shots of the new bootmenu.
[Kindle Fire General] :
Now that looks snazzy! :D

Has the emmc brick fix been implemented?
[Kindle Fire General] Hashcode:
No :/

Right now, it's usable as a replacement for the existing bootloader (can enter recovery or continue to boot), but I'm still debugging a bit and then I'll finish up the new features (including the emmc brick fix).

Of course I actually have to test these features so that means backing up the entire device during the brick testing. :P
[Kindle Fire General] :
Can you send me the Boot loader? I wanna check out all goodies. Probably you can include an option that retains fastboot?
[Kindle Fire General] Hashcode:
Let me fix a few more bugs and I can drop a beta of the new bootloader for those users who are comfortable knowing it may not be 100% done.
[Kindle Fire General] Hashcode:
And of course the obligatory YouTube vid.

Here's a play by play:

1. I start off by long pressing the power to turn on the device (new feature)

2. I then cycle through the main menu using power button presses (same as old)

3. On the 2nd pass, I use a power button "long press" to select the "Advanced Menu" (hard to see in the video)

4. The next menu shows several new options like the Serial #, MAC addr etc. and has a "<-- BACK" item at the top

5. I play with that menu for a bit and then long-press my way back out of it to the main menu

6. Then I select "RECOVERY" by long-pressing that.

7. So recovery boots up and then I shutdown.

8. Here I long press the power again to boot up, and then enter a fastboot command on my PC so that it triggers the new fastboot screen which I think is better than sliced bread. It shows you the command responses right on the screen, so you get a really nice feedback from fastboot.

Anyway enjoy,

[YOUTUBE]VKDC-RHpeiY[/YOUTUBE]
[Kindle Fire General] :
Take your time, sir. Thank you for the video
[Kindle Fire General] micl9:
Looking forward to the added boot loader functionality and usability (Features, long press vs short press to navigate).

And the long press to power up will also be a great little addition. I hate trying to confirm KF is off for travel etc and in the process I end up turning it on.

Thanks Hashcode!
[Kindle Fire General] Lord Morpheus:
1. I got my KF on a trip to New York when it first came out. Upon returning to the UK, I could not do anything with it. So I rooted and installed a custom ROM. Can't remember using the original Kindle Software so won't miss it one bit!

2. Each user has different needs I guess. I don't mind having less space on my KF if it can be replaced with OTG USB sticks?

3. Agree with you 100%, better to have one great ROM on KF than have 2 mediocre ROMS.

Thank you for all the time and effort you put into keeping the KF alive. It's really appreciated!
[Kindle Fire General] lovejoy777:
can't wait :D thanks Hash
[Kindle Fire General] Jersey846:
1. No question. I would install this update in an instant. I am close to selling my Kindle on ebay. If this were released, for me personally, I would keep the device for personal and family use.

2. Not like. Would LOVE it.

3. Dual boot doesn't interest me. Usable tablet is what I say!

Thank you for this discussion and potential. Very exciting!
[Kindle Fire General] Hashcode:
I went ahead and posted an ALPHA build of the new bootloader for those folks who are comfortable knowing that the only recovery from a bad bootloader is to pull the back cover off and setup usbboot w/ a shorted pin on the motherboard (and probably have to be running Linux to do it).

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2671619

This will now be the "Discussion" thread linked to from that.
[Kindle Fire General] Iguanadon:
I made a "factory cable" the first three days of owning my kindle.

Yes, I would update as soon as I could. no reservations about not going back.

Do not drop the "New" partition layout. more space for usable stuff is always welcome.

No interest in dual boot.
[Kindle Fire General] Pig Vomit:
Can someone tell me whether OtterX is significantly faster than the last CM release (CM11)? Just a little faster? About the same?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Your question is flawed, there are Offical CM11 version for both Otter and OtterX.

So I think you mean, which is faster OtterX roms or Non-OtterX (Otter/Blaze) roms?

That may depend on the user, likely otter are faster.
[Kindle Fire General] KindleTester:
When I choose Recovery kindle shutsdown

I was trying to go from Hellfire ROM to Project OtterX

Following the instructions in this video OtterX ROM/TWRP/Bootloader 2nd link on the top of the page below Project: OtterX (I'm not able to direct link the video because I'm new to the forums) [2014-05-08] I rebooted after installing otterx-u-boot_v2.05.zip and I got the new boot screen but I'm not able to get to recovery mode, I press the power button I get 3 options Continue, Recovery and Advanced

When I long press on recovery the Device reacts like it is about to go to the recovery but then it shuts down, while it is responding well with the other two options...

your help will be highly appreciated...
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Best to install both bootloader.zip and twrp.zip same time.

Now you must flash OtterX twrp.img

With fastboot.exe see

[Video] Flashing TWRP in OtterX bootloader
[Kindle Fire General] KindleTester:
I tried to use the fastboot flash recovery otterx-twrp-2.7.1.0-recovery.img command but the issue I was facing after installing the bootloader is that my pc won't recognize the device when it is connected until I noticed something that I Ignored before... when I start the device and I stop at the boot screen to choose wither I Will Continue, Recovery or Advanced is the only moment I could use the adb/fastboot commands..

I used the command there and it worked fine... I just finished installing OtterX thanks alot of your help....:good:
[Kindle Fire General] aelms:
Kuopio
[Kindle Fire General] xslouis:
goo.im mirror?

Does anyone have the TWRP files and CM12 image? It seems that goo.im isn't up anymore.
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
See [How To] Fix OtterX Install Errors, Partition sizes, Unable to Mount System...

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With the Fall of Goo.im I will be posting Mirrors OtterX files here:

Otter X Twrp and Bootloader Mirrors

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http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=otterx
[Kindle Fire General] xslouis:
Thanks for all the info and quick replies! Do you have the mirror of the CM12.0 from this post? If not, that's okay, I got KK up and running with that info!
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Just the official website http://download.cyanogenmod.org/?device=otterx
[Kindle Fire General] xslouis:
I know about that one, that's where I got KK, but is there a CM 12.0 download from the aforementioned thread?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
Doesn't look like I save any of them.

But you could try

Slimpop for the OtterX LRX22G by lovejoy777

or

[ROM][OFFICIAL][5.0.2] AICP for OtterX [NIGHTLIES] by Hashbang173
[Kindle Fire General] xslouis:
That should be good, thanks for all the help!
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
Is it only me having serious lag problems with new otterX ROM (nightlies ROM ) ?

I don't know if this is the correct place to ask such a question but any help is appreciated :)
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
anyone?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
I Don't know if there is a fix.

Yes, this is the correct place to ask.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
So do you think this lag problem is normal? Yesterday I tried AICP for OtterX in the link given below:

http://xdaforums.com/kindle-fire/development/rom-aicp-otterx-t2820557

But had more lag this time. I can send some short videos if needed. I did a full wipe/factory reset before flashing the ROM.

Hope we can find a solution. I don't want to waste that tablet in the drawer :)
[Kindle Fire General] dokie80:
Try kitkat ROM? As far as I remember, all lollipop ROM is quite lag on KF. If u don't mind about battery drain, try kitkat ROM.

Or try this ROM with battery drain fix: http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=62173645&postcount=3187

Note that it is otter thread, but the Rom on that post is otterx's

If u want performance over battery, try overclock it to 1,2ghz. Default is 1ghz AFAIK.
[Kindle Fire General] BobJayJr:
I've recently returned to the KitKat ROM ref'd above and am pleased with the performance. [MENTION=4968340]pfederighi[/MENTION]'s enhancements (hope he continues with these) give both smooth performance and good battery life (even overclock'd). Remember KitKat was developed with these smaller processors in mind. Don't forget to tweak the animation scales.

Another option, though development has stopped, is [MENTION=4410674]lovejoy777[/MENTION] 's SlimKat ROM which has a number of performance options due to the enhanced kernal.
[Kindle Fire General] dokie80:
Do u think we can get similar battery life on lovejoy's slimkat if we disable all wake locks via privacy guard?
[Kindle Fire General] BobJayJr:
I've been away from SlimKat too long to hazard a guess (though I've been thinking about giving it a retry). Just haven't got around to it. Though, I kinda remember battery life as being pretty good already.

Been generally disappointed with LP on my Amazon devices (OtterX and Jem - can't get there on Apollo) due to laggy/quirky performance and battery life. Much work still to be done on LP.
[Kindle Fire General] nighthawkca:
I think I'll give it a try too. Which gapps did you use?
[Kindle Fire General] BobJayJr:
I used Open GApps Nano version (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=3098071). If that doesn''t work for you, similar package is available at http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=60921686 and [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION] also has a extensive collection.
[Kindle Fire General] pfederighi:
Thank you. And... Yes, I am still working on it. I'm trying some new stuff; so far compiling is failing and I'm having a hard time figuring out why. I did manage to find some coding errors (bugs) and correct them. I don't think they affected normal operation, but fewer bugs is better. If I ever figure it out the compiler issues, I'll be starting a new thread. Hopefully this will happen soon.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2470253

Would this ROM work with OtterX partition? Because as you know I have OtterX partition now and I want to flash this ROM following your advice :) BTW, all I want is a smooth ROM. I don't want shiny , animated cool ROM. If I can use my Kindle & Apps without any lag problem then it will be my best ROM :)

Yeah, to make it short, would this ROM work with OtterX partition or do I need to extra instructions for it?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
no, you would need to go back to amazon partitions, otter/blaze twrp, and fff
[Kindle Fire General] dokie80:
If you want kitkat, Try otterx's kitkat first. If you still dont like it, then change back to otter's.

Since hellkat based on cm, try pfederighi's cm11. Or slimkat for aosp based.
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
Thank you mate.

Is it ok if I ask you to give me a link for Kitkat for OtterX partition?

And [MENTION=4267571]sd_shadow[/MENTION] thank you for your reply :)
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
[INDEX] Kindle Fire Development
[Kindle Fire General] akilmaf:
Okay, when I click on this link [ROM][OFFICIAL][KitKat 4.4.2][Otter/OtterX] PAC-man VERSION [AOSP] , it directs me to Lollipop 5.1.1 ROM instead of kitkat 4.4.2. What should I do now? I couldn't find any other OtterX Kitkat ROM on the link given above.
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
https://s.basketbuild.com/devs/pacman/otterx/KK/nightly
[Kindle Fire General] melizeche:
dead links

The links for TWRP are broken because goo.im is dead, has someone has another mirror for the files?
[Kindle Fire General] sd_shadow:
With the Fall of Goo.im I will be posting Mirrors OtterX files here:

Otter X Twrp and Bootloader Mirrors
[Kindle Fire General] melizeche:
THANKS!!!!!:good:
[Kindle Fire General] shabuboy:
What is the advantage of OtterX vs Otter? And I do not mean the list on the first page but actual everyday usage.

It seems OtterX has ROMs for 5.x while Otter only for 4.x.

I have a Kindle Fire 1st generation and not planning on going to Fire OS ever. Currently it has CM11, 4.4.4 and TWRP 2.6.3.1.

Just wondering if I should bust a move! :)
[Kindle Fire General] t3chwizard:
First off you are better off buying a new tablet over using this, but using the OtterX partition setup allows for more space (basically a combined data and cache partition I think). Also it allows you to install more recent ROMs etc... right now. I basically am just using the Fire as a TVGuide now. I don't even install Gapps as they slow it down.
[Kindle Fire General] shabuboy:
Oh yeah, I do have a 5th generation as well. I mainly use this to watch online content and browse the internet. Thinking of donating it to my nephew though but chances are he might need a device with at least 5.x due to apps/games. But you make a good point with the ROMs statement.
[Kindle Fire General] leswgnr:
Original query

Just caught up with this thread. Assuming you still need feedback and encouragement:

Definitely user type 2 & 3. Great fun playing around with it, and at this point I have newer tablets for other uses.

Assuming I finally get around to fixing my defective charging/USB port, i'd update it with this at the drop of a hat. Sounds very interesting and potentially useful. Anything that makes the kindle more functional is a great idea.

Partition layout change is a must. One of the most annoying limitations the device has.

I love the idea of dual boot, but I never restored the original kindle software even once after the first time I installed another ROM, even though it would have been a trivial effort, really no need. And the device is so space limited, I wouldn't want to trade any of that for dual boot capability.
[Kindle Fire General] rbeavers:
Me too.

Photon Q &/or Note 3 on ting.com
[Kindle Fire General] :
RAM issue :crying:
[Kindle Fire General] miguelmt:
Thanks a lot [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION] I think this is a great new direction for the Kindle to follow!

Regarding your questions:

1) I would update to otterx for sure. I won't miss the original Kindle firmware as I didn't use it for long; my Kindle runs "real" Android from the moment something barely stable was available.

2) I think that the new partition layout is pretty much a must. Milestone releases of CyanogenMod 11 leave so little available space already that the Kindle starts complaining about low storage space as soon as you install a few small applications.

3) No need for a dual boot for me. As many of the people in this thread, I'd rather devote all available resources in the Kindle to run one OS well.