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[Galaxy Note 3 General] tarny:
Yeah 4.3 is really good and to be honest im not to bothered I got caught up in the update crap ..I should just get on with my life and forget about it. Lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fyew-jit-tiv:
And here is why I think there is a delay in the release of KK for many regions.

There is a little guy in a small office somewhere in Korea who has been tasked with testing all new firmware releases for all of Samsung handsets/tabs. He sits there with a list of devices with firmware builds, he then compiles a raffle ticket based system in which he places all these raffle tickets into a box and then randomly selects tickets then tests the devices with new firmware builds (Hence why a small country like Poland would get the first N3 KK 4.4.2 update first), if the devices pass the test he then notifies Samsung-Update that this handset/tabs firmware is now available. As that link appears someone in Samsung then remembers that Kies needs to be updated then the firmware needs to be added for end-users to download.

Now if you don't believe me just look here at Samsun-Updates and see how the firmware releases are randomly posted per device.

I hope you guys understand the moral of this shorty explanation?

If you don't then I explain that too... If Samsung where to slow down the release of new handsets/tabs and employ more people to develop and test their currently released handsets/firmware's then we wouldn't have to wait sooooo F@#KING long to get an update.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sproglet:
Poland always get it first (it's thought that's where the developers are) then it rolls through Europe.

Never seen BTU this far behind (20 days and counting) but hey who knows.

I'm really tempted to flash poland then BTU when it comes out.... Giving it till the end of the week.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] StuBFrost:
If Samsung are intending to fix the s-cover problem then they may be waiting for that to be complete before they carry on with the roll out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fyew-jit-tiv:
Dude to be honest I think you should just wait...... KK 4.4.2 hasn't really got any major changes, its not really a major upgrade. Yes its smoother and has a few added features (and I mean a few) and uses slightly less memory from its predecessor but certainly not worth flashing now to only go and flash again when the BTU version is available. What if you try flashing with the Poland version and it all goes wrong for you? your only going to kick yourself for not being patient. :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
I agree just sit back and wait 4.4.2 doesn't really offer anything much over 4.3 except a few little tweaks here and there.

If anything im more interested in seeing if the Note 3 get's the updated touchwiz that suppose to be coming with the S5, or will Samsung save this for the Note 4 in September.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Any news anyone?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Frostfree:
If you were Samsung would you risk releasing the 4.4.2 update that breaks 3rd party accessories in one of your largest European markets and alienate customers or wait and fix the ROM before resuming the rollout? I expect the fix will roll out first to the smaller countries in line with Samsungs normal release pattern before an updated 4.4.2 is released to larger markets.

Unfortunately we may wait longer than usual :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Honestly, how hard can I be to add something, that was taken away in a update!:mad:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jakethesnakeuk:
Agree, why is everyone obsessed with updates, sit back and relax, it will soon be released,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gingerdude:
You know I wouldn't mind the wait so much but tech companies seem to treat the UK as treasure Island meaning if you take into consideration the exchange rate we seem to pay over the odds. ....... Take the galaxy gear $300 dollars in America and £300 in the UK. Very unfair.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Frostfree:
Americans gets shafted on their mobile tariffs.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JAMIE1000UK:
so do we lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
Especially on 4G
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gianton:
Not more than what we're charged in Greece! For 2GB/month on 4G we pay €15 EUR. What's the price in the UK?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jowett69:
depends who you with in UK unlimited with THREE network, I pay £34 for 5000 text 600 minutes unlimited data
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gavinfabl:
I pay £15 a month for all you can eat data which includes tethering. 5000 texts . 5000 mins. 2000 3 to 3 mins.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
EE 4G which can download at 80mbps is typically. £40 per month for 4gb. Is Three running 4G yet?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] st3chn0:
dont't think three have rolled out 4G as of yet but are offering all customers free upgrade with unlimited when they do

Im with Vodafone paying £39 4G Red Plan Unlimited calls/texts with 8gb of internet
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gianton:
Vodafone Red 3 Plan (5000' calls, 1500 SMS and 5GB) costs €96 EUR, almost the double price!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
£48pm unlimited calls and texts 8gb 4g data with phone for free on Vodafone uk
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sweeney_uk:
£83 unlimited calls/texts 20gb data with a note 3 (mine) and iPhone 5c (gfs) both sharing the data. This is on EE
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Please stay on topic
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dayat710:
im bored..

BND85 (£40.50) 4000mins voice/video call, 10GB data, 400sms, 85mms.

come to Brunei where its internet is known as one of the most expensive in the world...30Mbps is BND465/mnth.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jakethesnakeuk:
And you foot the bill every month :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
Three offer free 4G with there sim only plans @ 12 quid a month.

I have an O2 contract which is 21 per month and I have 4G. -- Vodafone is the most expensive currently, but EE are close, Three + O2 are cheap enough and O2's coverage is huge right now (My city isn't officially rolled out, yet I have had 4G now for a couple of weeks)

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Back On Topic --

BTU Will be out around end of Feb I reckon, that's when the fixes for 3rd party accessories etc will be fixed. O2 are testing new builds now *apparently*
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
It's a joke, there is no reason why they can't send it out to us now, when everyone else gets updated just update us, this really does stink, and it's a matter of principal, UK unlocked, use to guarantee you wouldn't be waiting, how things have changed,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] keirmccann:
Sick of waiting, im not overly fussed about thr update but the principle of waiting whilst other countries continue to get updates is a bit wrong.

I get 18mb/sec in central poole which is only hspda, faster than the 6mb/sec bt can offer so no need for broadband. Have a router that i plug the phone into which i find better than tethering but at 42/mth im not too fussed about 4g!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
Those sick of waiting look at it this way when it does finally show up, any bugs that have been found with the earlier release hopefully should be sorted, if not then i to will be disappointed.

I also have a feeling we won't see 4.4.2 until at least a couple of networks have released it, this seem to be the trend in the UK these days.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
To be honest, there's not that many bugs that I can think of... And I've been running it from first availability. Really not sure what's taking so long here..... Unless they are putting in some extra new features
[Galaxy Note 3 General] paul_59:
In addition to the fact that 4.4.2 is only a minor update the version on Note 3 doesn't include some features on 4.4.2 (Nexus 5) such as ART
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fyew-jit-tiv:
10-15yrs back we used to buy mobiles to keep in touch with people.... Today it seems people are just buying phones just for the updates. How times have changed. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
Other users with kit kat reports suggest improved battery life. I know the current Note 3 is good but any improvement always worthwhile. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
Back then there wasn't many if any updates for phones what you bought is what you mostly likely had for the phone life.

Today's smartphones are pocket PC's, they need to be kept updated.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
You can still get those phones, cosy you a tenner or less maybe. You don't need to update them.... But all you can do is keep in touch with those, don't need to worry about data speeds either lol. I get them for my gran
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dayat710:
i miss the 2 weeks batterylife era..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Seriously wtf! Still not here...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dickson123:
On the bright side, Three just switched on the 4g network in London for those who were not on the trial, I'm getting 25mb down and 20 up
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uvaman:
So N9005XXUENA7, came today for Germany, Hungary, Checz, Grecee, Netherland etc.... with new changelog 348029

And still no BTU UK :crying:

I bought BTU for faster updates ;(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RubberyDuck:
I've noticed BTU updates to be one of the last to come out.

Seems to be the case on my SGS4 and Note 3.

Don't think it'll be much longer now mind you.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] crash_194:
Really? That is great news! Can't wait for 4G in the Midlands. Can't wait for kitkat either. I have a 3 branded handset.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pierre118:
It looks like the updates are for T-Mobile users. I think it is the same as the 9 february update for the other providers.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
It's so wrong,btu should be first! Before providers, like it used to be, the longer this goes on Google phone all the way as long as it is the same size
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Pierre118:
Living on a island does have advantages, but sometimes it doesn't.....:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mo123456789:
I just bought a Three unlimited data deal for 4G. Can't wait till 4G starts in the West Midlands. Any idea when?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] skibadee:
http://www.three.co.uk/mobile/Disco...te=m&id=1230&gclid=CIicqvGAt7wCFc-9tAod7GsAAA
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JAMIE1000UK:
4G in the Midlands is activated? At least in Leicester it is.

Edit.

Just got what you mean. . 4G on 3.. My bad I'm ee lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tarny:
still no uk update..pathetic.I think samsung or whoever sends out these updates are taking the mick and are laughing at us.:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Can we please stick to the topic, fed up getting excited from a list with kit Kat news only to see 4g, etc etc
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Oh my god

Note 2 and s3 are getting kit Kat before us, no way!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] fyew-jit-tiv:
This is a no win situation... considering the Note 2 and Sgs3 has been around for a while it would make sense to apply the latest rom to those devices first...Lets look at it this way, If you had the Note 2 and the Note 3 was getting updates before you, you'd be moaning. That's why its a no win situation. :cyclops:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gavinfabl:
I'm in no rush. Currently it is very stable so if the cure a bug or two before it arrives then that is great. Not that they will.

And it definitely seems the carriers in the UK did a deal with Samsung to a) bump up sim free price at launch and b) give networks the upgrades first.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RubberyDuck:
You sure it's kitkat, they are getting android version 4.3 not 4.4.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
http://phandroid.com/2014/02/06/samsung-kitkat-upgrade-plans/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
Reading through this thread,,,, all i can say is you should just flash the rom if you are so desperate about it. Samsung obviously have their reasons why they are rolling out as they are.... But if anybody is so stressed about it.... Just flash it....there's loads of different regions out now.... Even German one... And from past experience the German one is not to dissimilar to the UK version
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RubberyDuck:
That won't be until March ;)

The Note 3 will have it before that, or it had better lol.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] trick202:
I have an unlocked, unbranded note 3 bought 3 days ago from Clove.

When I switched on, I got two updates one after the other, but both were less than 30mb.

Still waiting. At the end of the day, what will I be able to do on KK that I can't do now? Nothing.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cd993:
Agreed. If you guys want it, just get flashing! Understandable that you'd want to wait for the official release and it's questionable why we in the UK don't have it yet, but I have Bobcatrom Kitkat and absolutely loving it - official or not! Really liking the experience and combined with many additional tweaks and mods with Xposed and it's modules, makes for my perfect phone! Got greenify running and battery drain idle is minimal in idle and animations on 0.5x it gives the ui a speedy look and love having the CRT screen off animation activated. Also the beautiful theme included, blacks and blues and colourful icons make best use of our screens capabilities.

I digress.

But to re illiterate the point, just get flashing a custom one, you won't regret it!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
And where is our kit Kat?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
100th post and no news at all, Google phone if anything like 5.5 or 5.7 size, you can't help but feel cheated,

Leaves a nasty taste being treated like this!

Amazing phone, but poorly treated.

No idea if or when we will get it now.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Who am I kidding, note 4 all the way, lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
Perhaps Samsung can't allow wide.roll out of kit kat before they announce the new S5?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ryya:
I think it's more a matter of testing and pushing non released firmware through regression tests.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
Kitkat won't be what Samsung showcase on the S5, it be the new Touchwiz launcher.

Plus going off what alot of rumors are saying, the S5 will be more of an incremental update this time around so no QHD screen, hence reason why they are having a much more low key launch in a couple of weeks, instead of the fancy glitzy ones they had in the past S4 & S3 launch.

Also it been said that the Note range will now get the most preference when it comes to launches, ie the Note 4 will see all the new tech ie QHD screen, latest Snapdragon ect ect.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gavinfabl:
No need to rush. My friend has the Nexus 5 with kit kat and several of his apps won't install at not compatible. So I'm one more week isn't going to hurt.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alom5:
A lot of people with the note 3 have kitkat and everything so why worry about what the nexus 5 is doing lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] trick202:
S3 to s4 was also incremental.

The reason their event is low key is because their events make them a laughing stock. They try to make them glam, but always mess it up. Their best strategy would be to let the phone do the talking.

The note series is niche. It won't take more limelight than the s5. In the note sector of the market, I think it's the best thing out there for miles. However, the S series have far better competition. People are slowly starting to figure out that specs and performance are two different things.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gavinfabl:
I'm on 3 . Unlocked . Got a security update OTA today. Anyone know what this is for
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uvaman:
Can you give us baseband and build number?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Can I just ask if anyone knows how many English telecom operators have yet to release kit Kat update? If we know how many are left to receive it, we knew we will be last, so if there is only 3 network to receive we godly won't have to wait long,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JAMIE1000UK:
I got a security update to but didn't know what it was for. . I had a message saying something along the lines of security certificate already installed. I had the same message twice?? Strange

I'm on Vodafone but unbranded unlocked device
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uvaman:
It could be for third accessories where Samsung said they had issue... Still no update for me, BTU!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JAMIE1000UK:
No idea what it was for. Our how it was installed. It had no input from me. Didn't flash anything just a message.

Same baseband and build as it was before I seen the message
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uvaman:
Thanks man, maybe we will get some info tomorrow....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] winwiz:
me too.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] keirmccann:
Probably for 4g rollout on 3
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ixon2001:
You know what funny. I'm sat here with a Moto G that cost me £74 with discount, it had the Kitkat update weeks ago now.

Yet a Smartphone that cost best part of £600 here in the UK when released, is still waiting for Kitkat that was originally released by Google back in October last year, a good what 5 months ago now.

Problem with Samsung is they now have to many devices on the market of similar sort of range, they just released the Note 3 Neo and i bet it doesn't stop there.

Over saturating the market means when it comes to updates they become wider apart before each device receives fixes or updates.

Then there is the networks to contend with as well, which about 3 years ago spat their dummies out when smartphones began to seriously take off, as they wanted exclusivity over updates first to get the paying public onto expensive 2 year contracts at the time rather than simfree, this also reflects into the price of simfree smartphones as on launch the price is silly money due to profiteering, because Samsung & the other aswell only drip feed the simfree market at first, and this again is thanks to the networks wanting to have first dibs on the latest smartphones to get you onto their expensive contracts.

End result of all this, is we probs gonna have to wait until some networks in the UK have released the Kitkat update before we even see it on BTU, this has happened plenty times in the past, where it's been a full month after a couple of networks got the updates before BTU saw it.

So if it does pan out like this then we could only expect to see Kitkat sometime in March if not April.........but i could be wrong :D:D:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
Security update doesn't have a build/baseband, it's a security update that's been pushed for whatever reason the network require.

No UK operator has pushed KK yet AFAIK. O2 are testing it, so they all are testing I'd say.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Oh my god,,,,,, the wait is going to be a nightmare.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
I guess we had better,,,,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jah:
In the early days of Note 3 ownership (I was one of the 500 early birds in the UK) we had loads of updates so it is not that Samsung does not care. As others have said, the current Note 3 is pretty good. With Kit kat I know we'll see some performance and battery improvements - I know kit kat is very good as had it on my older Nexus 7.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Frostfree:
Samsung are actually the best manufacturer at releasing timely updates and supporting older phones, bar Nexus devices and Motorola post Google acquisition. The Kitkat ROM has already been developed by Samsung, but unfortunately the third party accessories issue probably means they had to put the breaks on their rollout and update the build.

As consumers we'll probably ask why such a minor change is delaying things, but unfortunately it means they have to go thru another round of testing and approvals before they can resume the roll out. Yes it sucks we don't have the latest build, but we should also put the known factors/issues into perspective. Anyway 4.4 is a relatively minor update that doesn't bring an particular killer features to play, but I'm still eager myself :).

FF
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Any news today guys?I have no more hair to pull out
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Buszidko:
No any update for note 3 on this week
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
Is that for this entire week or just as things stand at present?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Either way it's a joke!

Buy the latest and greatest phone and get treated like this.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
It was the same as the note 2, waiting waiting and more waiting,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Skander1998:
Probably they paused the rollout because of the 3rd party case issue - this probably means it has to go through testing and carrier verification again.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
Yeah I wouldn't mind but I had a Vodafone Ireland model and flashed the BTU rom and changed its CSC to BTU thinking that I would get updates faster than Vodafone Ireland would ever roll them out.

Vodafone Ireland rom has been out over 2 weeks now !! Damn them .... :silly:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JAMIE1000UK:
Just had the third security update? What are these for?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uvaman:
Not a single security update for me.... BTU
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JAMIE1000UK:
I'm btu too. Network provider Vodafone. Phone unlocked unbranded.

Phone does have a fault with usb. But that shouldn't have nothing to do with it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Ryya:
The security updates are updates to the certificates stored such as verisign etc.. The can be viewed in the security section of your phone under the CA Credentials. At least I believe this to be true.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ksqp:
I got the same one (0021) yesterday. I have no idea what changes it has made to the phone.

I can tell you why you get them though - because you have a tick in the box at Settings->General->Security->Auto update security. I don't remember changing mine so I think that's the default setting.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] skally:
The update from 3 could be to add 4g network support
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
Doubt it, I'm not on 3, not in UK (Ireland) and don't have 4G network, but I got that security update too.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tarny:
Wahoo!!! Still not here
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
Sammobile show update for UK EE network is available..... surely can't be long now....?

Vodafone Ireland have another update, meaning it's received two 4.4.2 updates whilst BTU is still to receive 1... typical.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] JAMIE1000UK:
I bought mine on ee but is btu.. No update for me
[Galaxy Note 3 General] RubberyDuck:
Are you sure that is not Android 4.3?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Who's waking up tomorrow with a update on there btu note 3?

Nobody,,, THAT'S WHO!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] 1980aksoy:
No update for vodafone ireland for second kitkat
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nookcoloruser:
It's probably only available via Kies? Or samobile have got it wrong.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] third_degreee:
I got my Note 3 on EE back in December. The model number is SM-N9005 so I thought it would be sim-free (thought that model was sim free?) but only my EE sim works it seems.

Anyway, just checked Kies 3 and that says no Kitkat update.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] darkshizzle:
Why they dont release it.. thats so weird... just tryed to update.. nothing yet.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] radicalisto:
I wouldn't worry too much, as it's been said before in this thread if you want it really bad just flash the XEO chances are BTU will be identical anyway in all honesty.

Main reason for the hold up and you'll find a new XEO will probably roll before BTU again anyway is the third party accessory issue no doubt. Patience it'll come.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uvaman:
Maybe Samsung ( I know they wont but still :D ) will wait with presenting S5 and on 25.Feb will give us new TouchWiz for BTU people with new stuff also :D:D:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] androidflea:
Nope!

We are only getting shafted,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] uvaman:
Poland received one (some say another one for knox 170mb, first one is 27) new update :D:D:D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sergiu84:
No Valentine's day love from Samsung so far... Speaking of which, my Note 10.1 (first version) is feeling somewhat neglected too.