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[Nexus 5 General] Modover:
Do it

I know this is an aging thread, but I thought I'd share some additional info, as I just did essentially this same thing to my Nexus with great results. Unfortunately, I did not see this thread before starting, if I had I would have taken baseline screen temperatures, since an increase there seems to be a concern. But, you'll see post-mod temps below.

Maybe it varies phone-to-phone, but there was NO thermal compound on the chip to start with, and it does not make contact with the metal frame directly above it. The chip is essentially insulated by air-gap, rather than sinked. Can't imagine why this was done, as it basically subjects the chip and adjacent components to very high temps, instead of subjecting the whole phone to moderate temps.

Can't see most of OP's pictures, and you may be able to guess why I couldn't take any pictures during the process, but it's really simple. There is a square indent in the frame where the main chip sits; I put a layer of thick copper foil in this to fill the air-gap. Then I put thermal compound on the main chip, as well as a thin layer on the metal shield surrounding it, as this shield contacts the frame. Also put a thin layer on the SIM holder, as this also touches the frame and may pull some heat away from other components (mostly was thinking of the flash LED when in torch mode, as it's directly opposite).

I ran Stability Test's classic test for 15 minutes to see before/after, with System Monitor running in background-process mode.

Before thermal treatment:

@5:00 - 40 successful runs

@10:00 - 74

@15:00 - 107

CPU temp leveled out at 80c pretty quickly

After Treatment:

@5:00 - 50 successful runs

@10:00 - 90

@15:00 - 131

CPU leveled out at 73c

Running Linaro kernel, so throttling is not stock. Ambient temp was 20c for both tests. According to IR thermometer, screen temp leveled out at 36c (at the top, bottom of screen is cooler) after the treatment. So, this mod results in heat being transferred to the whole phone, but the temps are not enough to damage anything, and will result in a much better environment at the main chip and surrounding components.

There you have it; ~20% increase in sustained work capacity for about 30 minutes of work. And yes, my Antutu score increased as well, but we all know we shouldn't care about that...
[Nexus 5 General] aavvaallooss:
Stock Lollipop 5.1. PVS 2. Encrypted.

17 ºC at home.

Franco kernel r72; default settings (Conservative CPU governor, Noop I/O scheduler, 70ºC CPU thermal threshold, Balance Performance profile)

ARTIC MX-4 Thermal compound (Carbon micro-particles). http://www.arctic.ac/eu_en/mx-4.html

AnTuTu Benchmark v5.6.2 (

Stability test

). ~39K on Test (Before and after)

System Monitor 1.4.3 (Flying monitor. CPU temperature)

BEFORE

:

-Min: 26 ºC

-Max: 84 ºC

-Average: 61 ºC

AFTER

:

-Min: 25 ºC (-1)

-Max: 83 ºC (-1)

-Average: 58 ºC (-3)

NOT IMPRESSED!!!

UPDATE:

But... What about BATTERY temperature???

Stability Test v2.7 (

CPU + GPU Stability Test

. 5 minutes):

BEFORE: From 20,5 ºC to 25,6 ºC (+5,1)

AFTER: From 29,7 ºC to 29,7 ºC (+0!!!)

IT SEEMS THAT HEAT FROM SoC DOES NOT TRANSMIT TO BATTERY!!!
[Nexus 5 General] C3C076:
The thing is, we cannot go against basic laws of physics, like energy conservation law. People expecting getting colder device with mod applied are wrong.

Actually, your device will be hotter since the amount of heat generated under the same conditions is the same, but it is more quickly transferred from internal components to device frame. And moreover, since this tricks throttling mechanism into being able to use higher CPU frequencies (since heat is more quickly removed from components where temp is measured), this automatically results in even more heat generated. Back frame is not able to absorb that amount by itself, that's why screen is getting hotter.
[Nexus 5 General] Beyazid:
[MENTION=5008415]C3C076[/MENTION]:

That would be correct if the Phone would be constantly used for intense computing like a benchmark or stress test. But I think this mod is for the average use where the SOC gets a task where it has to do some demanding work and since SOCs are designed to do those tasks quikly and go back to sleep the SOC can do that without throttling and finishes that task

But if it is only for Benchmarking and constant intense tasks you´re right. It is contraproductive for the whole Phone since more parts get worn out because of the transfer on other parts
[Nexus 5 General] humzaahmed155:
I can safely say that the mod has not worked. Idle temps before were around the 38-40°C mark. After results are 43° idle.

Used Arctic Silver 5.
[Nexus 5 General] slayer of worlds:
So, I first made it by just applying thermal paste between screen and processor. I noticed that the temperatures were really stable, and of course, the screen was getting hotter, but not as much to bother me. So, after that, I decided to open it and put a small metal piece between the screen and the processor, but, I let a small bended part of it out of the square, so the metal piece dissipates heat by air too. Conclusion: It's even better than before and I got 44300 on antutu with thermal throttling off, stock frequency, the temperatures are much stable and low now, and, the screen is not getting as hot as before. The temperature rarely gets over 60°C with heavy use such as games. With normal use with apps like facebook and tapatalk it stays between 40°C and 44°C.
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgtech:
This MOD can help you to lower the temps but to be honest, it won´t prevent you from thermal throttling of any kind. All you do is to prolong the duration of the time until the SoC is starting to throttle. Don´t forget one thing: thermal grease also has a thermal resistance .

But on the other hand, if you own your device since 2013 and you´re out of warranty anway, you can still perform this Mod since at least it won´t do any harm if performed properly. Maybe I´m going to perform it later too since I still have some Arctic Silver 5 left, some thin copper sheets and other parts.

Edit: I did the MOD now but in a different way than just adding some thermal paste to fill the gap.

I cut around 16 x 16 mm of 0.5mm thick copper from a junk sheet I had laying around ( I used a mini grinder ) , made sure to polish the surface on both sides with grinding paper :D I attached a thin layer of Arctic Silver 5 on the metal surface ( in the 16x16mm gap ), attached the copper plate and also added a slight layer of Arctic Silver 5 on top of it.

Ofc I made sure to clean all surfaces first with 100% Isopropanol ( the expensive alcohol ).

Now all I need to do is to keep an eye on my device and before I forget to mention....I also joined the "warranty void club" :P

If the Mod is done properly, it might at least help to prolong the lifetime of your components. Don´t forget one thing: These SoCs are engineered in a way to withstand way higher temperatures than you might expect so a Mod is not really necessary ;)
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgtech:
Push :D The MOD was absolutely worth it :D :D
[Nexus 5 General] FalenDemon:
Hi there! This can be applied to our beloved nexus? http://www.aliexpress.com/item/15-1...-sheet-computer-graphics-card/1724170363.html
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgtech:
Yes, these things are even better than the selfmade pieces made of scrap material ;) Make sure though that you pick one which is about 16mm x 16mm x 0.5mm or else it won´t fit into the gap. Worst case you need some sanding paper in order to make it fit :D
[Nexus 5 General] FalenDemon:
It have size 15x15, too bad?
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgtech:
15x15 is slighty smaller than 16x16, it will fit without any problems :D
[Nexus 5 General] republicano:
i often thought about this,the thermal paste is used to transfer heat over to the metal frame if it makes contact.

you would want to use arctic ceramic to be safe, non conductive insulating thermal paste, even though the 99% silver is the best for conductivity you would want make sure it doesnt get in contact with the motherboard.
[Nexus 5 General] persianrisk:
thanks for this, I do wish that the dropbox images worked - and I also used an alternative 'guide' to take the Nexus 5 apart, the ifixit is rather poor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OPuCmfhzgbg

I had to only guess how much thermal paste to put on the square as the image you posted on dropbox did not work. but thanks for the help still.
[Nexus 5 General] Gorgtech:
Arctic Silver 5 or similar thermal pastes are non conductive under regular circumstances. You need a lot of pressure in order to make it conductive :D Arctic Silver 5 is quite sticky and tough to apply but it´s stable even after years of usage.

If on the other hand you want to use some liquid metal fluid, this one is 100% electrical conductive and not stable at all. In comparison to regular paste, it will evaporate sooner or later and leave a hard layer behind which is very hard to remove.

Just use whatever paste you like since the thermal difference will be 1-3° at best, even standard silicone paste ( the white stuff you use for power electronics ) is better than no paste at all.
[Nexus 5 General] humzaahmed155:
Remembering the One X, and the way it had copper on the battery and the CPU. I ordered a piece and cut it to fit the battery, the remaining pieces were attached to the square cut out on the metal backplate (with thermal paste in front of the copper) and a couple layers to make sure it's still touching the metal plate (its pretty thin). Applied a very small drop of thermal paste on the CPU too. The battery does feel genuinely cold to the touch now. CPU idle has dropped from ~42°C to ~37°C. Benchmarking soon.
[Nexus 5 General] zerosum0:
You could keep the photos up. Take the guide down or add the pics to it. I'd love to use it as I did the nexus 4 mod

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[Nexus 5 General] fwayfarer:
The phone WILL still throttle if you push it or don't live in Siberia. BOINC will always throttle, and I bet benchmarks will still throttle before the test finishes unless you start off with a really cold phone. It confuses me why they didn't include some kind of thermal compound at the factory though.
[Nexus 5 General] bblzd:
Most likely they are prioritizing the device's skin temperature over the CPU and GPU temperature. This makes sense because people tend to notice their phone becoming hot to the touch more than they notice the impact of thermal throttling.

It also reduces strain on the other components such as the battery and LCD which can be very sensitive to heat. With thermal paste applied such as in this modification, heat is more readily transferred to these other components and can cause premature degradation.
[Nexus 5 General] fwayfarer:
i put thermal compound in mine right after purchase so dont get me wrong, i see that this mod works. i just dont necessarily agree that it will cause anything to prematurely degrade; that heat has to escape somehow either way.

i guess you may be right, since if the chip throttles early i guess less maximum heat would be produced but the same total energy will be expended to complete a given calculation so the same amount of thermal energy will be released by the phone, just over a longer time at lower level.
[Nexus 5 General] zerosum0:
Longer time lower level far less harm. Would you want one bath at boiling point, or ten at 10%of boiling?

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[Nexus 5 General] fwayfarer:
i have run BOINC on my phone for long periods with no visible damage to the screen or any other part. so honestly i dont think it matters. the battery temp is a much bigger concern than the screen being warm. it gets a lot hotter than ever possible otherwise if left sitting in the sun.
[Nexus 5 General] tebore:
Bump since people are now so suddenly interested in thermo modding the Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 General] FalenDemon:
Well, I just tried on my nexus 5. I added copper plate and termal paste Gelid GC-Extreme above and under this plate and run StabilityTest.

So, on stock throttling begins at 10 second, and by 5 min 30 sec tempature was 42°C for battery and 100 (omfg) for CPU. (Monitoring by CoolTool)

After Im done with this mod throttling starts at 3 min and by 5 min 30 sec if test tempature was 42°C and 67°C.

And some antutu scores, dont remember exact score on stock, but it was lover than 50k definetly.

Not a placebo at all.

Отправлено с моего Nexus 5 через Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 General] alexeius:
Hey guys. I got tired of my phone getting hot and found this guide.

But as I understand this will not lower case temperature, right? The CPU will deliver the heat to the case faster, so I'll experience the same thing.
[Nexus 5 General] paradoxiumwind:
I did this mod today using some thermal pads instead of paste, has lowered max temps (can post before/after screens in pokemon go later if anyone wants), definitely notice the screen around the area of the thermal pad is hot, will this damage the screen?
[Nexus 5 General] paradoxiumwind:
Before modding with a thermal pad on the CPU:

http://i.imgur.com/DTHQ8xj.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/oFKJ1dx.png

http://i.imgur.com/hAe7Ksu.png

Max 92c average 76c

After:

http://i.imgur.com/MhQAKWR.png

http://i.imgur.com/x9RXVu0.png

Max 83c average 67c

Left the game running on what seemed to be the most cpu intensive part for about half an hour each time before taking the screenshots. Looks like the average CPU usage was higher also, does this mean it likely helped reduce throttling?
[Nexus 5 General] TioCareca:
And how about heat absorbing cooling pads?

http://www.dx.com/p/itop-heat-absorbing-mobile-phone-cooling-ice-pad-transparent-234820#.V-5Gz9Qo_vA

Is this advised?
[Galaxy S 4 Accessories] kinng111:
Guys I m getting moga controller pro for $48 from a guy who has won it in some competition as he told me.Do you think its a fair deal or i can get it in much lower price.Also I am not getting any bill from him..Plz help me to take the decision..

http://www.mogaanywhere.com/controllers/moga-pro-controller/
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Troox:
Hello,

I'm facing a strange problem with my Note3. Befor i got my Note3 i used a Galaxy S2 I9100 with Tasker and the same Profiles. Everything runs smooth, but on the note i'm connected to Cell Towers without a CellID. Pls take a look at the screenshots.

MNC 02 (Germany)

MCC 262 (Vodafone)

LAC 1513 (Local Area Code)

CellID 0

PSC -1

I'm really connected to this tower/cellid for > 5 minutes. Its not a wrong reading for a few seconds. This Problem occurs on all places, Home/Work/Girlfriends Home. Same LAC without a CellID. It makes Tasker near Cell Profiles unuseable.

I try'd Stock 4.3, Omega Rom v6, Stock 4.4.2 (unofficial) and Omega v7. Nothing. I changed the SIM Card (new from Vodafone). Nothing. Even another Note3 from my Brother shows the same behavior. Last try was the connection, changed from LTE/WCDMA/GSM (auto) to WCDMA/GSM (auto) or WCDMA Only. Nothing :P Tasker is up to date with the latest Beta. If i'm not wrong, can it be a modem problem? Any hints are warmly welcome. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xclub_101:
I do not think it is a Note 3 problem (mine works just perfectly with LLAMA, but to be honest I only tested rooted), maybe you have some rights denied in xprivacy? Or it might be a problem/setting in that tasker beta that you are using? I really doubt that it is anything special in your baseband or that NSA is using some IMSI catcher on you :p
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Troox:
Mine has root, too. And xprivacy is installed, but tasker has every root rights that can be allowed. Even with stock rom , network signal info shows cellid 0.

Send with SM-N9005 via TapaTalk Pro
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Troox:
Llama shows on cellid scan -1, -1, -1 (ignored)

Send with SM-N9005 via TapaTalk Pro
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stig386:
Like many, I am extremely disappointed with Samsung's attempt to bring 4.3 to the S3 and am on the verge of switching to CM 10.2 from a stock ROM. The ROM is rooted with a yank555 kernel and philZ recovery.

However, upon reading this forum; http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2531221 and several others like it, I realised I may or may not run into an EFS or no network issue. I have the stable 10.2 and 4.3 Gapps ready to install via ROM Installer.

Is it only if the android version is downgraded that any form of EFS error could occur? As 10.2 is based off 4.3, I thought it would work fine and flash as it did when I ran stock 4.1.2 but wanted to double check.

Thanks for your time.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
UNDERSTAND FIRST

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2362743

Network IMEI EFS

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2393289

Downgrade and network problems .

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2531221

EFS error any flash of any firmware may give error .
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] rettignick:
Aside from the EasyDo smart assistant, is there any widgets I can use with the null rom that basically just present my ToDo list, or a calendar widget that maybe shows 2 or 3 events and when clicked shows the rest? I ask because I constantly find myself writing things on my hand like "bills" so I can remember to do them after work. It would be great if I could dedicate a homescreen to a widget for the same purpose and stop writing on my hand.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Santaclauswitz:
I'm using Google Calendar and Tick Tick on my gear. They both work nicely with syncing via bluetooth tether
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] richlum:
I use Simple Calendar Widget.

It's scrollable and when you tap an event, it opens in calendar.

A bit fiddly to configure on the Gear, so I set up the layout on the phone and then export and copy to Gear.

I used to always be taking my phone out to check what room I had to be in. Now, I can easily check on my watch :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] hurdlejade:
i use standard google calendar widget with two zooper widgets on top - one to show current temperature and second for battery left.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] W@r10ck:
Hi can you guide me on how do i install/configure this app to the galaxy gear?do i need to download the .apk and sideload it? Thanks

And also your layout/theme is pretty cool. How did you set it up? :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] richlum:
You can either side load it or download via the playstore on the gear.

Once it's installed, you can select a 1x2 widget and configure it how you like in terms of colours, fields to display, font size.

The widget on the top half of the screen is Minimalistic Text widget. I have 1 instance of it with the time and date. And another overlapping instance with just the battery.

There is also the Noticounter widget which I have overlapping everything else.

[edit] As I mentioned, it's easier to setup the widget on your phone and then export it and import it on the Gear. The screen on the Gear is too small and fiddly. That applies to both Simple Calendar and Minimalistic Text [/edit]
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] lurkapup:
Getting calendar apps to sync

I've got calendar apps installed ok, but they don't seem to sync, or at least don't show any meetings. When I open up Today's schedule (the stock gear app) it shows the days appointments fine. How can I get the appointments to show in the non stock apps. I'm running null_19 and had a look through the app settings. The google calendar sync and other calendar apps are set to off. I turned them on, but it killed the battery in about 20 minutes and still didnt seem to sync the meetings.

Its a major gap in the utility of the watch for me, so I'd really appreciate any help or advice. I've trawled all the threads the mention calendar, but I didnt find anything that helped.

Thanks.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] W@r10ck:
I have installed the app both on the phone and gear.How did you make this as your main clock?are you rooted and using other Rom?im sorry im a bit confused :confused: Does it sync?since i need to export then import it.im just confused on how does synching works.Thanks :thumbup:

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How do you set this up on the gear?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] hurdlejade:
install google calendar, add widget, resize it. now add 2 new widgets in zooper and choose it to display current temperature and battery left..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] richlum:
Yes, you need to have Null ROM installed to be able to use any widget.

Then, you just set the widget/s on your homescreen.

For syncing, you need to setup your google account in the system settings on the Gear (need Null ROM for that too) and then set it to sync the calendar.

To sync, you will need to setup bluetooth tethering between the Gear and phone. (need Null ROM for that too).

I don't leave it tethered all the time to save the battery. I have tasker installed on the phone and Gear and it enables BT tethering for 2 minutes every hour. that is frequent enough for me to have the calendar on the watch updated.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] W@r10ck:
I was actually planning on installing NULL but found out that Dev decided not to continue with the support :( so i guess there's no way i would be able to set it up like yours :(

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Are you also on NULL?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] hurdlejade:
i'm on null 11, and yesterday there was released null 20. it is in active development, you got your info all wrong.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] lurkapup:
The developer stopped providing support through the main thread and PM. He is distributing the Rom through another forum and to be honest still ridiculously active and supportive through multiple threads. However, I think its fair to say he's here to develop, not play helpdesk.

But yeah, as others have said, if you skim through a bit more of the front page of the gear forums, you'll find plenty of discussion showing the null rom is well and kicking.

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Thanks for the advice around syncing Rich. I have syncing working fine - I'm usually permanently tethered, probably unnecessarily. When I check the google sync settings it always shows a recent last sync'd time. However, none of the meetings are being loaded into the non-stock apps for some reason. I'm keen to check out the new null_ so I imagine I'll be doing a few full resets as part of that to hopefully clear this odd blockage.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] W@r10ck:
Thanks bud this is a great news. But was wondering where can i find it. Ive been searching through...i will try and search again but if you dont mind showing me the active thread/link I would really appreciate it :good:

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Thanks its a good news. I will try to search for it. I went to this site http://null.section80.net/ but couldnt download the ROM :( and i got the news from reading on this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2515696. Hope you could show me the light on where i can download his masterful ROM :)

EDIT: Ok guys sorry i got it all wrong. I found the way to download it. Cant wait to flash this amazing ROM onto my gear :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] lurkapup:
Build 21 actually it seems to be :) Well there's my project for the evening, as well as killing a couple of beers. Cheers F0mey!