yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] interloper:
which apks are missing? Carbon doesn't provide all the same apps as cm.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Camera and gallery were missing, I didn't look for anything else really, but it looked like the app drawer was about half of what it was for stock.

I'll flash carbon again in the morning and take a screenshot cause I gotta redownload and yadda yadda in recovery
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] interloper:
No need. Those apps are dependent on libraries to work and that was a fail. I'll rebuild soon with the same libs I use for cm.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] graphdarnell:
You mean to say you can time-travel with this thing? I couldn't revert back to older kernels no matter what.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
If you are on B8 you better get the stock Odin firmware just to have. I was getting the slight flicker on the CM and Carbon builds but there's probably 10x the Knox "security" and monitoring on the B8 update its just sad. There are Knox system apps, Knox in the Boot loader, modem, and libs, you name it. The S4 had a pretty straight forward set of steps to de-knox but get this...I have been able to mount adb with the stock kernel and enable read/write on some 10 devices with Chainfire's adbd remount app. Well now if I try to connect with adb, my Dev settings automatically toggle off.

If you dont have the screen flicker, stick with CM or Carbon because the overall screen on time is much better BUT....I have debloated about half of my bloat, froze all security and system monitoring crap, updated to latest Team Blackout inverted apps and added Xposed , Gravity Box , Wanam and XThemer5 just in case I can get the thing deodexed. But with the exception of settings, this was all done with Wanam and Gravity Box...it looks more my style however my Galaxy Nexus is still getting nightlies and I kid you not, I am getting 3 days off the charger with about 3 hours of screen time plus I have Djdarkknight's transparent and inverted CM11 themes "BlakKat for CM11" but the CM theme engine is a must for BlakKat, Maybe I will really scare you guys with the amount of info being logged and stored. If you didn't update or lucked out and don't have the slight screen (I call flicker) but with a live wallpaper and while watching movies its not noticeable at all then I recommend rolling with Interlopers builds .

I swear, I think this Knox crap made thiis my last Samsung.....it was a great deal though. If you are stock, grab Folder Mount app, and link your music and in my case movies to the External SD. I have 21 full length movies and around 35 gigs left. Someone gave me the movie/TV Show app and it blows away Netflix IMO. I am free to answer questions or share but PM me
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
Oh and if anyone is stock or stockish MH9 I would like to compare notes and see if this sprung up quickly because I have heard that the S5 and Note 4 will be full of stuff to " protect us" I mean "mount nodev"?! I have tons of stuff I have found so I basically use this for Netflix, Movies, and getting drones to follow me for practice with tracking software I guess:mad:
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] graphdarnell:
Too bad I got this flickering with CM. Otherwise, apart from the aforementioned glitches, it's way better than the Samsung crap. Such a waste of hardware. Hopefully, some devs would come up with a way to drown this Kimmish approach.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
I still wanna figure this screen thing out. I haven't gotten it since the second build of this ROM. Stupid question is are you sure you have a sm-t217s? Cause I think, don't quote on it, there's a sm-t215 with the same specs.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] interloper:
Ok. Working with preludedrew (evervolv). He just got one and is having the screen issues also. He was on firmware version NB8 and having MORE trouble. I am on firmware version MH9. So, if you are having the glitches check your firmware and report it. For science!
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
Has anyone noticed whether or not the light sensor works? Auto brightness?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Works for me. I know it didn't work in an older build.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] graphdarnell:
I'm certain it's a 217s. And I'm on B8, to answer interloper's question.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
Ah. I would be on that older version. Here's a random question. Does somebody know where I can get a valid stock rooted ROM or any tw ROM you can recommend that's pretty much fully functional? I found stock rooted but every copy I dl is bad.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Its all like that. No matter what one I DL, I gotta flash twice and the video playback is always messed up. It is a known issue I don't think anyone can solve.

The only fix is to Odin back to stock and re-root. That's the only thing that works really. Samsung got this tab so knoxed-up it Bork's a lot of things. That's from what I understand.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
Interloper, I started digging into what Knox,Google and some of these system "test" and "assistant" apks were really for and the things they can do are quite surreal. I have about 90 pics from the apps that tap into and can altar personal information. I tried to delete and/or freeze as many as possible and went one app too far and suddenly I had settings changing on their own then other things that just happen to be done by these test apps.. I was actually writing a post to you last night and my Tablet powered down on its own. I can understand some of the things that they can access but not being able to change personal contacts, calendar information, retrieve info from emails and even unlock the lockscreen and record audio like we are walking drones when carrying these tablets. PLEASE solve the screen flicker issue because Knox and especially Google are grabbing personal information and can change it without getting in trouble. CIQ was a joke compared to the app info I took pics of. This isn't science, its privacy violation

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[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
Oh screw it then, not remotely worth it to me. I had a stock backup I rooted and a bone stock backup but when I restored the stock rooted it wouldn't let titanium work right, among other things, maybe that's why. I haven't tried the bone stock one but now twrp doesn't want to mount /system so won't do anything at all for me. Just installed cwm and am in the process of downloading the latest cm. Gotta love it. What a PITA! If auto bright works I'm happy, don't care about the other stuff. Just started my first eBook (I'm an old hard cover guy) and I'm getting tired of turning it up and down as I change rooms or as the sun goes down.

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I flashed 5/24 and don't see auto bright working, is there a good way to test? The sensor is right next to the FFC no?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Just get the latest which I believe is the 5/24. I also use slim gapps for kit kat which I've never ran into a problem with.

Titanium backup, sometimes you gotta change the preferences in the settings to find your backup.

The recoveries, if you flash them they did that into me as well. Flashing with Odin solves that problem and a lot less of a hassle.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
Oh I'm well versed in the ways of TB and twrp. I still cant see auto brightness working. Know a way to be sure? I'm leaning toward "it's not working"
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Block the sensor with your thumb, and did you say you were on mh9 or nb8? Cause baseband nb8 will give it problems.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
I was blocking it and didn't see anything before. Now it's working but it reacts real slow. Maybe that's why I couldn't tell. As far as the firmware, how do I find that out? I've seen it mentioned but Idk. I've always had HTC devices. This is my first Samsung. Honestly, I got it because it was convenient. I'll never go looking to buy a Samsung, especially now that I've actually experienced touch wiz. If HTC didn't have what I wanted I'd get a nexus. Actually I'm thinking about a surface 3. But I'm on a tangent here. How do I check that?

Edit: I see it. You're talking about the last 3 characters in baseband in about phone? Nb8. Hasn't caused any problems for me yet and I've been running this from the start. I think maybe you guys are chasing the wrong culprit. Only problem I've ever had is the camera, and I suppose GPS but I wouldn't know. I have no use for either.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Go to settings and click about phone. It'll be baseband version. Read only the last 3 letters. Mh9 apparently works better then nb8.

This device is convenient as well to me. Its just $20 to fix the glass instead of going thru insurion for $100 lol
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
Haha. Yes I saw that. Hopefully I never need to replace one. I didn't even get the insurance on this. I have it on my m8 of course. I need a device this size to do very little. Read books, watch Netflix, run games for a 4 year old. I don't think I've taken it out of the house once yet.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
Wait if I grab the MH9 firmware and Odin flash it will it actually overwrite the bootloader and allow my adb to connect? Actually I think Knox did leave something from the Goodness MH9 ROM I flashed. To anyone on MH9, when in Odin mode, is the Bootloader grayed out and say RP SWREV:2 then the next line is Write Protection: Enable and both are grayed out as if they cant be altered? I am going to delete and freeze as many of those fake "test" apps and I I disabled a Knox line in the build.prop as well as found the 2 lines they had enabling Low Power Audio so I changed those to "true" and with the latest Viper4Android Super High Quality option my sound is so much louder. I think there may be 2 more for TV Out but I am going to dissect this today.....oh and the Crossbreeder zip actually does help with ad blocking , entropy and wifi connects much faster. I have them all as well as the uninstall zips if anyone wants to try it out. I am so pissed that they actually toggle off usb debugging if you try to do anything with connecting to adb but I am an amateur with just how embedded Knox is....because the stock settings theme is the same as every damn Galaxy variant. Orange and green are way past retirement age. This is as un-stock as I can get with an extended power menu but its a duct tape job:banghead::banghead:

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[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
If anyone can possibly take a screenshot or two of the MH9 build.prop it would be a huge help because they are really trying to not mention it by name however there's a lot of extra terms and almost catch lines because there's a lot more than the S4 or Note 2 or 3 I believe. I would appreciate it but I will start with the obvious and compare vs other devices etc. Thanks

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[Galaxy Tab 3 General] Robisgnarly:
having issues im on nb8
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
Ok , if you tried the Goodness MH9 ROM or the 4.4.2 goodies Interloper has graced us with, if you bod in back up to Knox hell, actually have f reset time and auto reboot unchecked so when Odin finishes you can hold power and volume up. It will do a quick wipe but do it again and do a factory reset and dalvik wipe in stock recovery and it will be a fixed back up.....except when I got mine it had the International Samsung boot logo to match the shutdown. After you are back and running solid if you want to have the blue glowing Samsung boot animation to match the shutdown animation, just use Root Explorer and I usually title something like "0000 - system apps and files I removed" so I can easily find it I need to return anything but just move these 3 and no more of the nasty yellow Splash screen

Edit... Once you get everything stable again, I recommend flashing a Crossbreeder zip that will block ads, increase entropy which makes it feel twice as fast and connects WiFi network and Data quicker as well. I have them all along with an uninstall zip for each for peace of mind. I will upload all of this to my DevHost but I personally like the last two....the 12-01-2013 build and the final "Goodbye P edition" that makes my entropy stick at 4096 now. Actually Seeder app ceases to work because it is included.

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[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
In case anybody missed it, for science, I am on nb8 and have not had one problem. Maybe I'm the only one. I have to check in with a friend and see what he's got. He's just started flashing on it. Don't know what fw yet
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] shawn718:
Carbon working very well this way.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
Yeah what screwed up everything for me was I didn't have a clue that everyone else was passing on the upgrade and the Goodness ROM wasnot current but I am managing to stay almost completely stock and I am getting theme dialed in but mine came with it, There has to be a Dev that can at least get it from the Bootloader or disable SELinux, I apologize. Wait can you make an advanced backup of the boot.img and bootloader only????? You just may be heroes to many

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[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
What way? I haven't figured it out yet. No WiFi. Google play services fc
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] shawn718:
Just a figure of speak... The carbon is working well on my device...
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
What recovery version are you using? And what baseband? Both of the recoveries provided in post cause the screen blinking glitch in recovery mode and when i flash cm or carbon, it also has the screen blink issue, I'm on the nb8 baseband
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
Carbon gives me a play services force close with dirty flash. Clean flash no Wi-Fi.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] kkalkan:
camera error has occurred. How to restore.

google play store error.

Does ROM development continues? :)

thanks...
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] Robisgnarly:
READ.......all your answers are in this thread!
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] shawn718:
NB8, john kernel, 11-20140510-unofficial.

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[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
Are you using the cwm version provided in this post? I'm using a different one cause those provided cause the screen flicker in recovery, and every time i flash any version of cm11 or carbon I get the screen flicker, plus on carbon WiFi is broken, is the screen flicker happening because I'm using a stock kernel? I read the whole post and couldn't get a definitive answer

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Also, is there a reason that every time I try to flash a nandriod backup of stock that I created, it gets stuck at the sprint boot logo?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
There is no kernel. Its whatever comes with the ROM. They're trying to figure out the screen flicker on devices. Some say its the nb8 baseband, but some that have it are running normal. Should never be recovery. I say its just hardware. Samsung has to be using 2 different screens imo
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
Okay thank you for clearing that up, cause if it weren't for the flickering cm11 would be damn near usable, I need something other than this touchwiz garbage, so I'm willing to offer my assistance in anyway I can to get this rolling, could you tell me why my nandroid backups aren't working?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
It may be 2 different screens. I am on NB8 and my backups don't restore either. Has anyone on NB8 tried the Xposed DVFS Disabler while running CM or Carbon because I have been trying everything to de-Knox stock without success but MAYBE the Dynamic Voltage and Frequency Disabler may do the trick on CM/Carbon flicker for those of us that have it. Its minor but noticeable on my device but I didn't try that module the last time I was on Carbon. If that module does help, can someone please report back on it? Thanks

It does say its for Touchwiz but who knows? Its worth a shot anyway
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Isn't that used to disable under clocking the CPU when in idle or in a less intensive program? That's what I thought it was like with some AMD apu's
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
Any idea why the backups aren't working? Is that cause of the nb8 baseband?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
Honestly, I am not 100% sure. I am going to have to read more on the specifics. I did read that it effected Tablets and wasn't really an issue on the S4, S5, etc. I do seem to have the flicker more when idle compared to when using the device. For instance, if I put the "live smoke" wallpaper on, the only place I have that flicker is at the very top or bottom edge where the screen meets the bezel. With a static wallpaper the flicker is there. When watching videos, I can't really notice it.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
Did you have nb8 while backing up?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
It may be 2 different screens. I am on NB8 and my backups don't restore either. Has anyone on NB8 tried the Xposed DVFS Disabler while running CM or Carbon because I have been trying everything to de-Knox stock without success but MAYBE the Dynamic Voltage and Frequency Disabler may do the trick on CM/Carbon flicker for those of us that have it. Its minor but noticeable on my device but that module wasn't available the last time I was on Carbon. If that module does help, can someone please report back on it? Thanks
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] creep138:
So then you need constant motion it seems.....I'm gonna take the back cover off mine, and report back with numbers

Edit..I didn't see display numbers didn't wanna take it all the way apart. But did notice t210r ribbons
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] JohnCorleone:
I am thinking yes because I tried restoring a backup on CWM and TWRP and got stuck at the Sprint splash (which my device didn't come with.) I have the international boot and shutdown animations. Also, the more I dig around the build.prop, system apks, etc there is Knox stuff all over the place. So far on stock NB8 I have found at least 20 apks that are monitoring and able to retrieve personal info. I have deleted around 10 and frozen several others and tried editing the build.prop but that somehow resets on reboot. If I can find a way to even limit the flicker on CM or Carbon I am not switching back because some system apks can unlock your screen and record audio triggered by whoever is gathering all of this personal info
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
Yeah I had nb8 from the start (only had device for two weeks) I've also noticed the more I'm doing, the less it flickers, when I get home I'll try a live wallpaper to see if that reduces the flicker, I'm not going back to stock, cm is working well enough at the moment for me, I'll deal with the flicker until it's fixed, you guys are doing a great thing by working on this
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
I'm convinced it's a hardware difference as well. a larger percentage of devices shipped with nb8 may have been built with the flicker causing hardware but mine is nb8 and i have not seen this anomaly at all.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] cxifenton11:
I really am starting to dislike Samsung for this tabs difficulties.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] shawn718:
Its not the tablet its u... J/k
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
I used to love Samsung, Knox screwed everything up. I tried the live wallpaper thing, and I didn't notice any change in the frequency of the flickering
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
4.4.2 official update

Just in case you aren't aware, the official 4.4.2 update has been released for t217s, I have two of these devices and I updated one to 4.4.2 to check for baseband updates and it updates the baseband to "NE7"
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] graphdarnell:
What does that mean in terms of functionality? Did you find out?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
I haven't gotten a change to try it yet, wanted to wait for a little more info about update to emerge

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Wait were you referring to the features it adds to the stock Rom, or how it effects the functionality of cm/carbon?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] hotaru2k3:
the official 4.4.2 update should at least make it a bit easier to get camera and gps working... since it probably has updated libs for 4.4.2.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] graphdarnell:
Lots of members have flickering problems with CM and Carbon while on B8 baseband, myself included, and it seems the upgrade causes them. Since downgrading ain't possible, I wonder if the latest upgrade does anything to remedy that. Nobody wants to be on stock since it bloats about the size of Kim.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] Temeriki:
So ive also had some success with live wallpapers and reducing the flicker, darker ones work better than lighter ones. Also does anyone else have the flicker in the recovery using interlopers cwm? (TWRP has no flicker for me)
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] shawn718:
I have never experience any problems beside what is already known. I also dirty flashed. The rom is a great daily and gaming is cool too. I do miss the camera... I love the selfie...
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
Both times I flashed cwm from this post, it caused the flicker in recovery, but the recovery version I'm using now doesn't have the flicker, and i also dirty flashed cm, and aside from the aforementioned issues, camera and the inability to use nandroid backups are the only issues I have
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] shawn718:
So u good then, beside known issue.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
Precisely, if you can get past the flickering, this version of cm beats that stock touchwiz crap any day
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
Dirty flashed over what? And what's the deal with nandroid backups? I'm not familiar with that. Is a rom thing? Wouldn't that be a recovery problem?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
I dirty flashed the latest cm11 build over the stock Rom, and nandroid backups are backup images created in a custom recovery, and for some reason with my current version of clockworkmod recovery my backups aren't working, I'm not sure that's caused by the recovery or if it's something else
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
I know what a nand is, it just sounded like you were saying it like it was a known issue with the ROM which doesn't make sense to me. My friend and I had that same issue with cwm. We're using twrp now. Dirty flashing over aosp over TW is usually a big no no and bound to cause problems somewhere. Did that resolve issues you are having? Like screen flicker perhaps? Sorry if you said. I didn't fully understand what you're saying.
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
I know usually flashing aosp over touchwiz is a big no, but it actually worked with no issue this time around, I still have the screen flicker, that and the camera are the only issues I'm having with rom itself. I mentioned earlier in the post that I was having issues with nand backups, and I had clue what was causing it, you say twrp works fine? No flickering, working nandroid, etc?
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] adamlee011:
For me yea but I have no screen flicker with anything ever, including in ROM, even though I'm on nb8 firmware. So I didn't have it with cwm either. I only switched to cwm because twrp up and decided it couldn't mount /system anymore. After trying cwm for a while and installing whatever the latest twrp is 2.7.Whatever, it's back to normal. I was originally using 2.6.3 but it was working for a while before giving me ****. Dunno what that was about but that's really a whole nother topic.

......If anyone runs into that, updating or reflashing twrp in fastboot did not help but flashing cwm and then back to latest twrp fixed me right up :cool:
[Galaxy Tab 3 General] golpeen420:
I'm gonna attempt to flash the latest twrp and see how that goes, will report back

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So I'm in twrp 2.7.0.0 and it cannot mount system