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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] easycure1974:
I got the same setup before - all SPB products and they sucked memory and was often very bugridden.

Now I have converted to SBSH products and are never going back to a SPB product except their backup application.

Nothing can beat Amit and the incredible guys over at SBSH products with their incredible customer support with frequent updates and new features
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JNGold:
For the most part I do agree with that statement. However, when it comes to a Today Launcher, Pocket Plus is more polished than iLauncher. I am a registered owner of both products. Even moving the cursor using the d-pad lags from icon to icon on iLaunch where on Pocket Plus, cursor movement is fluid. Other little things like a more convienient icon selection panel, built in power off and reset buttons make PP my choice over iLauncher.

As for other comparable products, the SBSH products are just head and shoulders about the spb offerings.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] maltloaf:
Right at this moment ive got 23MB free, running a bunch of today plugins (traylaunch, recso, phonalarm, cpu graph) and also text messaging, activesync, comm manager, contacts.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DREAMBOXER:
18 MB Program Memory Free:

Currently Running:

Spb Pocket Plus 3.1.1

Spb Folders ( Plugin for Pocket Plus )

Pocket Breeze 5.0.12.2

Agenda Fusion 7

Photo Contacts PRO 4

Pocket Controller Professional

TodayTime

Tmail ( which is the SMS Part that I never close )

Active Sync

When TomTom 5.21 is running it drops down to 14 MB of Free Memory.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DoctorT:
You don't have any memory leak?

How often r u guys doing a soft reset??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] redjupiter:
I have 15 MB left but I would like 64 MB Free initially

I have 15 MB left and running:

Cash Organizer

Skype

Active sync

Resco Explorer

MobiPocket Reader

Messaging (Email)

Internet Explorer

TomTom Navigator 5

Contacts

To feel Happy I would like 64 MB free with nothing running.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] redjupiter:
Forgot to add about soft reset

I soft reset about once a month. When I do that I have 27 MB free. When I run (more or less) the above applications it goes down to 15 MB free. If I close all of them I go up to about 17 MB. If I run them again, they don't seem to take extra memory (Yes i clsoed them from the task manager), and it stays at 17 MB free until I run TomTom which it drops to 15 MB free and it stays there.

Hope this helps.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] SBouri:
edsub, i normaly have 24mb free when i soft reset...but whenever i close a program i always make sure i go to the meory settings and close it properly....i havent upgarded roms etc I've installed stuff like spb today plug in..after running a few apps my memory goes down to 19mb..watching a full length movie drops my ram to 18mb min
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JNGold:
Re: Forgot to add about soft reset

Once a month? I find this very difficult to believe. You must not use many applications and the apps you do use must be very well behaved when it comes to memory. It's just a known fact that many applications do not release memory to the original amount before the program was run and if you run multiple apps it just compounds the issue. Heck, just open up IE a couple of times and see how much memory it eats up. Sync up a couple times and see how much memory Activesync chews up.

I have owned PPC's since 2000 and I have never been able to get away with not having to soft reset for that long of time. Not even close.

After a soft reset I am around 18-19mb free. That's with Pocket Plus, SBSH Pocket Breeze/Contact Breeze, Pocket Weather, SmartsKey, GSPocketMagic, OMAPClock, and MS Voice Command.

After a day of running IE, syncing, running PocketPlayer, Avantgo, misc other apps, I am down to 12mb of ram. I usually soft reset every couple of days sometime everyday depending if I am running a beta of some application.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DoctorT:
@JNGold: I totally agree - thought I am the only one with that problem... :D

Usually I soft reset every another day, altough it may be possible to run it for a much longer time - didn't try to exhaust it so far cause less than 15 MB of free memory makes me feel I should do something... :shock:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] redjupiter:
I get the same reaction from my colleagues (Palm users)

I reset once a month and I don't have to, me think. I get the same reaction from m colleagues who are Palm users (I am always mocked with my windows device). I think it depends on the applications as you said. I use no today plugins except Resco plugin. I run the above mentioned applications (earlier post) almost all day. I need my emails and messaging to be always on, I need mobipocket to read my RSS news (sometimes books). I do run explorer several times a day, and also Opera. I run Skype daily to make international calls. At work (thats about 9 hours) ActiveSync is always running as I cannot connect to our corporate wireless network as it uses WPA2 which WM5 doesn't have. I run TomTom several times a day to see clients.

I noticed that even when I clsoe all these applications I do not recover memory beyond 18 MB (after soft reset I have 27MB), but ... whenever I run the closed application again it does not seem to take any memory, all the way down to 15/14 MB ...

Therefore, I don't feel I have to reset. I have tested this many times. I don't have any registry hack or ROM othere than the offical O2 rom.

I just did a test now, I close (through task manager) all applications and my memroy goes up to only 18 MB. I ran them again, and it goes down to 15/14 MB and thats it.

I do believe something weird is going on with WM5 memory ...

cheers
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DoctorT:
OK - that makes me curious - I will try to do the same and won't soft reset for one month! :!:

Maybe u r right and the free memory will never fall below a certain level - would be nice...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] SBouri:
i soft reset about 4 times in a single month :x
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] redjupiter:
@DoctorT - me too - waiting your experiment results.

Be advised though That I am using Universal not wizard!!!. but WM5 is WM5 ... right !?!

I am no memory management expert but my hunch says that WM5 when it runs the application once, it marks the resources, the size of the program and its location in memory once it is loaded. When you close the application (via task manager - and I think most built-in applications but not all) you don't recover much memory (beyond extra resources required by the application). So when you run it again, WM5 already knows the size, and the location in memory of the previous program image and so it loads there again plus the extra resources it requires. I see this behaviour in my tests. in doing so the developers (WM5 OS developers) can do some optimization in loading the application perhaps faster in the second run and so on...

I just tried to answer my question as to why when I close the applications via task manager I recover a little of the initial memory. Just a hunch ... it could jsut a bad operating system that leaks badly :-)

If you can do a test that we reproduce then I would like that to test mine and perhaps buy a Palm next time :-) .

cheers
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] szweju:
I have 27 Mb on start up and it gets down to 25 MB through the day.

I run:

Resco Today

Missed Calls
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] szweju:
How is the new rom from O2?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DoctorT:
Ok - now I have the "evidence" - one month without soft reset is absolutely impossible for me! :(

My free RAM already dropped to around 7 MB...

If some of you guys really can run the Wizard for one month without reset you are quite lucky - probably I installed some apps which are leaking. I am still suspecting the SPB stuff... :evil:

Here are my 24/7-running apps again:

Today plugins:

SPB PocketPlus + Weather + GPRSMonitor + Diary

KabuToday

Egress

Other software:

PMRecorder

(AE Button Plus? - not sure whether that's always running - remaps the hardware buttons...)

Can anybody confirm any of these apps not to leak?? Have to find out the reason...

Thanks!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mikeysweet:
24 hour test

I did a soft reset on my phone and only used the phone features and contacts for 24 hours. My memory started out at 24Mb and is now at 17Mb.

I never synced during the 24 hours yet Activesync is always re-appearing in my memory list. I must have removed it about 15 times.

3 questions:

1) other then the Running Programs screen, where can i see what is running?

2) How can I disable Activesync from just running all the time

3) Is there a program that will log all activitiy in order to find what is leaking all this memory

Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Bacco:
MemMaid is a great program to let you know what's running (ala Windows Task Manager) as well as offering you the ability to clean up your phones ROM, move dll's and a host of other things.

Download a demo and try it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mobilehavoc:
Wow, you must not use your devices much...

So my memory after soft-reset is around 22MB or so...it quickly drops and now after about 8 days of heavy use it's around 7-8MB.

I ran Task Manager (similar to MemMaid) which looks at running processes and memory footprint. Guess what I found....the top 4 memory hogs are ALL WINDOWS MOBILE 5 SYSTEM PROCESSES!!

So in reality it doesn't matter which apps you are running from third-parties because it's WM5's own system processes that are killing your memory.

Here's my top 4:

GWES.exe - ~3MB

Filesys.exe - ~ 2.5MB

Shell32.exe - ~ 2.5MB

Device.exe - ~ 2.0MB

Total = 10MB!!

VoiceCmd also takes up about 2MB and the rest of my apps/plug-ins take up <1MB each but it adds up.

Still, I don't have any of the cache tweaks enabled or anything. Not sure why these processes are taking up so much memory. There's no way to reclaim this obviously unless you soft-reset either.

C'est la vie. I just ignore free memory since even with 7MB, I can run everything I need to without too much issue.

Still PITA...

BTW...I'm running latest QTek AKU2 ROM, customized for Cingular courtesy of Summitter.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] SK:
Re: Wow, you must not use your devices much...

what tasks manager you use for see process memory usage?

I know only one program (our sktools) how can show all memory usage by process. Other program how i know show only part of process memory (heap).

As example on hp2410 SKTools show 4.4M for gwes.exe, other task managers show 1.7M.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mobilehavoc:
Just posted something on my site about this re: Mike Calligro

http://www.webhavoc.com/2006/05/08/need-more-memory-wm-50-system-processes-memory-consumption/
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Tezcatlipoca:
Re: 24 hour test

I found this while looking for the same answer:

http://www.pdaphonehome.com/forums/showthread.php?t=60676

Tried it a couple of days ago. Seems to work. Make a fake sync server, turn off all the auto AS scheduling, then get rid of the fake sync server.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] randall747:
I'm having a problem and thought that rather than start a new thread, this one looked like a good one to piggy back.

I have noticed my program memory getting lower than necessary. I don't know if there is a leak and downloaded the MemMaid trial (neat program). I don't know what processes are safe to "kill" or to "terminate". I hope someone here can help.

Here is what MemMaid shows as the top 10 running processes:

1) Voice Command 3.57MB. WOW! Is this because it is in the main memory? Are there parts of this program I should not have installed?

2) filesys.exe - 2.38MB - I understand that this manages the device's file system and provides APIs for applications to load, save and manipulate files. So, it's important but is 2.38MB high?

3) gwes.exe - 1.92MB - I've read where others gwes is much higher. Also, I have read that removing this will freeze the MDA - so I'm not going to concern myself with this.

4) device.exe - 1.7MB - This handles most device drivers but I'm not sure if this is a normal amount.

5) shell32.exe - 620KB - I understand that this and gwes grow over time. However, I'm not sure what this one is - I have read on google that it is a trojan (I haven't even been surfing the net yet with this device!) and have also read that you not terminate this??? Thoughts?

6) repllog.exe - 428KB - Part of Activesync. Is it necessary?

7) tmail.exe - 404KB - Pocket Inbox - I guess this is important.

8) rapiclnt - 176KB - I can't find much avout this. Part of Activesync?

9) services.exe 160KB - This is also sometimes called a trojan but I have also read that it is part of the operating system and should not be disturbed.

10) connmgr.exe 128KB - Contains most of the functionality of Connection Manager. Best to leave it alone.

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By the way, if it matters, I downloaded the following hacks from XDA and things seemed to get worse after doing so:

PERFORMANCE TWEAK HIGH RESOURCES:

With this hack, you will change the all storage caches,audio prioty,soft keyboard sensivity,font cache,glyph cache,deactivate start menu and windows animations with high amount of memory allocations...

PERFORMANCE TWEAK LOW RESOURCES:

With this hack, you will change the all storage caches,audio prioty,soft keyboard sensivity,font cache,glyph cache,deactivate start menu and windows animations with low amount of memory allocations...

WIFI G MODE ON:

With this hack, you can activate the mode for connecting wifi networks only for g protocol but be advised that there is no significant speed improvement over b mode...

WIFI SCAN INTERVAL LOW:

With this hack, you can consume some battery power while wifi is on by lowering the scan interval of wifi networks...

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=257415
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] PseudoReal:
wow guys, I do have 21 mb of ram after a soft reset, but after 2 or 3 days of heavy usage it goes down to 5 or 4. I even cannot start sometimes iGo as this requires 6mb. I think I need to to do a hard reset, but I would like to use a newer rom than mine.... but aku 3.2 is still beta :|
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] deadmetal:
Memory leaks are a royal pain in the a$$. Out of randall747's list I know you can definitely close 6 and 7 with memmaid without out causing any system instability.

When I check my running processes list via mem maid I have cprog.exe as one of the main memory hoggers (about 1.8 MB). I think this is the process that manages phone and sms services and this can also be closed without problems.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Dr Puttingham:
Just a word of advise... if you can't turn your phone off at night a reset in the AM will do wonders. My clients are "trained" to reboot their computers before calling me with problems and it's simply amazing how many times that resolves the issue :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] randall747:
Thanks for the response! Should I "kill" or "terminate" 6 and 7 on my list? You are sure that there won't be any sync or email problems?

Any other thoughts? I downloaded tweaks2k2 to try and help my memory situation but nothing seems to really work. After a soft reset, my program memory starts out at a healthy 18mb free and then slowly drops down and down and down.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] deadmetal:
You should kill the processes this is by far the best method. There arent any sync problems as far as I know. Once the process is killed, if its needed again, it gets reloaded at a far reduced memory foot print. Unfortunately once the process is reloaded/restarted it will eventually go back to being the same size as before :(

I've not used tweaks2k2 and havent seen any posts that say it helps reduce the memory leak problems that seem to plague WM5. All I do know is that WM5 minimises opened programs when you close them so keep on using memaid to kill those pesky memory eating programs
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tubbyman:
i get 9mb after a soft reset and its running much at all i only have my nav and pocket putty installed on there its stupid the amount of free ram :( And i'm running a ROM that is supposed to be good for that sort of thing (although i may have got my memory figures confused).

I would be interested to know what the radio version is for the new O2 ROM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mjl3781:
Huh?

I am astounded by people reporting to use their devices for more than 24 hours without resetting. Personally I reset after every phone call as I can not stand seeing all those instances of the "Phone" app in my task list.

I would recommend a soft reset every night at the very least. This is not Treo here guys.

Btw, repllog is used by activesync. If you are not using Exchange then by any means kill that sucka.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tubbyman:
i hardly ever soft reset mine i just make sure i go into memory and kill off any unused programs no need to soft reset it just because you used the phone part.

Just an update on my memory situation i actually get 21mb free it was only immediately after the soft reset it goes down to 9mb. I would fully recommend molski's 30mb rom available from his site www.molski.biz also there is a massive thread about it on these forums

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=279097
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cachookaman:
i have 22.6 mb free using the rom in the post before this

running:

magic button

microsoft voice command

smartskey

photo contacts pro

today plugins:

o2 plus

ptravelalarm

batterystatus
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] newbie2:
I have the Cingular 8125 (Wizard). I soft reset every morning right off the charger and start out the day with 22 - 23mb Program Memory.

Active Today Plugins:

Wisbar Advance 2 v2.8.0.2

Phone Alarm Lite

Pocket Breeze w/ iLauncher, Pocket Weather and Spb Time integrated as custom tabs

In addition, my POP3 email account downloads email every 45 minutes throughout the day.

When I get home at night, I still have around 18 - 19MB Program Memory left.
[HTC EVO 3D] Mummydroid:
******First Thanks For Mazda for the best ROM And cuatzstress For the tutorials Wide statusbar******​

ScrenShoot :​

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Mod :

=> Mod Statusbar and Drawer Bar(Like SS)

=> Mod Settings Transparent Framework

=> Mod GoogleHome From Nexus 5

=> Mod Lockscren

=> Etc..

( for another mod and GUIDE i will added soon )

Download :

V.1 HERE

Instruction :

=> Just Flash via Recovery

=> Wipe Dalvik-cache

=> Reboot and enjoy

If you Like, Don't Forget Press Thanks Button :good: :D
[HTC EVO 3D] Mummydroid:
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[HTC EVO 3D] sistemia:
Thank you! might be fine for this ROM? : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2401433
[HTC EVO 3D] Mummydroid:
thanks, im using cdma dude
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpongeR0b:
OK, I'm running into difficulties with this phone..

..It arrive pre-rooted, I installed Titanium Backup and removed iReader.

In the Play store I noticed that SuperUser and Google Keyboard needing updating but when I tried to do so all I got was "Error Installing - Package file was not signed correctly" which I assume has something to do with a slightly different version of the program initially installed?

Then I went into SuperUser itself, clicked on the spanner icon, scrolled down and tapped on the check for updates button..

..indeed it found an update and proceeded to update in a similar style terminal box.

However.. according to Titanium I no longer have root access, I quickly downloaded Root Checker Basic which also confirmed this.. bugger I thought.

Moving onwards, I just downloaded SRS Root from srsroot.com. Tried rooting and it exited out saying I already had root access.. hmmm, so then I removed root access, the phone rebooted and then I re-applied the root.

Although I am still suffering from not having proper root access :crying:

Please help me to get full root access back again, thanks in advance. :angel:
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpongeR0b:
UPDATE : After running Root Checker Pro it told me that SuperSU wasn't installed.. I downloaded that from the play store and re ran Root Checker Pro, it now tells me..

I still have Root Explorer on the phone and seem to be able to navigate through the normally hidden directories.

Suggestions please!
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SpongeR0b:
To my surprise, I bit the bullet today and reset my phone to stock defaults..

..unfortunately even this still did not fix the incomplete root :(

Please help!

EDIT : I've been tinkering again.. Here's what I understand (and what I've done)

System\bin\ - Kinda not the most important place to store a file relating to an installed .apk's

System\xbin\ - The more important place (kinda like the System32 directory) relaing to installed .apk's

System\app\ - The directory where the .apk file's themselves live (kinda like Program Files\xxx Application)

Well I noticed I had an .apk in apps called root_Superuser.apk and this was present even after un-rooting my phone.

I removed this file, using these commands :

adb remount

adb pull /system/app/root_Superuser.apk

Seemingly this didn't remove the file, so then I tried :

adb remount

abd shell rm -f /system/app/root_Superuser.apk

After a quick reboot this had indeed removed Superuser, then I reused the SRS Tool to re-root.

Then I read that SU 3.0.2 was a safer bet.. (although it was a post from 2011 - attached)

So I downloaded that and proceeded to push the superuser.apk and su files into their correct places (as below)

adb remount

adb push superuser.apk /system/app/

adb push su /system/xbin/

adb push su /system/bin/

After the files were correctly in place I needed to set the correct file permissions, I did this as follows :

abd shell

root@android:/ # CHMOD 644 /system/app/superuser.apk

root@android:/ # CHMOD 777 /system/xbin/su

root@android:/ # CHMOD 777 /system/bin/su

Finally I realised I had given /xbin/su the incorrect permissions so ammended them to :

abd shell

root@android:/ # CHMOD 4755 /system/xbin/su

root@android:/ # CHMOD 4755 /system/bin/su

The reason why I am writing exactly what I did is so I myself don't forget anything and also to show others how to do stuff should I be doing it correctly!? I wasn't sure if the su needed to go into xbin or bin so I put it into both directories and thus I can remove which ever one is incorrect once I get a reply from somebody!

Here's my current log from Root Checker Pro - I shall not be doing anything else without further assistance.
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] joeykrim:
Great to see the Root Checker apps being used! Given you posted a link back to this thread in the Root Checker thread I'm posting my reply here.

The route I usually take and recommend, which does all of those steps you've performed, such as copying files and setting the correct permissions, is to load an "official" .zip file from the custom recovery.

If you have a custom recovery, I'd recommend loading SuperSU.zip, which has worked very well for me on my devices: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1538053

From the XDA post, there is a link to the .zip file that can be downloaded and loaded in the custom recovery: http://download.chainfire.eu/supersu

If you don't have a custom recovery, I think most of the steps you've taken are correct, but based on the Root Checker Pro output I'd be concerned that the Superuser.apk file you installed and the su binary aren't communicating and might be out of sync. This can be caused by many reasons but the solution is to make sure you installed a matching .apk and su binary.

Hope that helps and good luck!