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[Android Apps and Games] Zenety:
Taking back our right to privacy​

https://telegram.org/

Android: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.messenger

iOS: https://itunes.apple.com/en/app/telegram-messenger/id686449807?mt=8

Windows Phone: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/apps/telegram-messenger/9wzdncrdzhs0

Updates:

v. 3.2.4

Bug fixes

v. 3.2.3

- Android 6.0 support

- Now on Tap

- Direct Share

- Fingerprint support for Passcodes (Android 6.0 only)

v. 3.2.0

- Introducing Channels – a great new way to broadcast your messages to unlimited audiences (replaces old Broadcasts).

Read more: https://telegram.org/blog/channels

This application is one of the best encrypted chat applications out right now. Secret messaging and auto self destruct are amazing features.

If you don't like Facebook knowing everything about you through Whatsapp this is the thing to switch to. It feels super slick and fast. It has better options then any other messaging app has at the moment and it's growing bigger and bigger. Hope the community can give the attention this app deserves and makes it the new messaging app on Android/iOS/WP and PC.

THIS APP IS NOT MINE. I just want to give it attention since more people should use this amazing application.

Really good explanation from: Ba7rani123
[Android Apps and Games] ed10vi:
I love it, I wish it becomes the new standard, but I see a big problem:

I'm from Spain, and now there is a huge hype with this app, but I think this hype will finish before the appearance of apps for Symbian, S40, BlackBerry and all those legacy OS, and people will leave it, because whatsapp is in more devices.

Does someone knows about any app in development for Symbian or S40?
[Android Apps and Games] lozohcum:
Why do I have to give them my telephone number? :/
[Android Apps and Games] kical:
.

Ey I start using it a week ago and its insanely awesome!!! Same UI as whatsapp but a big problem is the day to day use of the app for example right now theres not much community I have got like 10 telegram friends out of 100~ that uses whats app.

Another thing they dont got is the verb conjugation we use for example

" I'll send you a whatsapp " > that stands for Ill send a text message by whatsapp. It became as a native verb.

" Ill send you a telegram " > Right now it doesnt make to my mind what do that means.

In Spanish we like to use a lot

" Te mando un whatsapp " " Hablame por Whatsapp " " Tienes Whatsapp " and the word Telegram doesnt is very friendly as the word "whatsapp"

" Te mando un telegram " "Hablemos por Telegram ".

So I really like the app and the Windows Client is just very nice and good to have

Let's wait and hope people like it.
[Android Apps and Games] domenukk:
Is it end to end encrypted? Then it would be a great alternative.

What's their business-model, though? Free and no Ads seems like it won't be around for long...
[Android Apps and Games] merlin699:
to identify you. same as in whatsapp.
[Android Apps and Games] ovyxy:
I like ...

Telegram is new, I hope not to be forgotten:laugh:
[Android Apps and Games] Axaion:
To make sure they know who you are, same reason its only on -google- play :confused:

Nope, waiting for Tox.
[Android Apps and Games] lozohcum:
ah ok. so I'm not gonna use it. My telephone number is privacy thing
[Android Apps and Games] James Randi:
I care a big deal about privacy and don't even use a Google Account. But I think there are a lot of other things to worry about first before worrying about your telephone number. If you give your number to anyone who is using a phone or an app that reads his/her contact list and does whatever with it, your phone number is not a privacy thing anymore. ;)

(Correct me if I'm wrong)
[Android Apps and Games] lozohcum:
yea but I still don't trust app like this one. It's sad because I very wanted to use it instead of fb messager (which consumes lots of ram in my device). And "Fast for facebook" is not good for me.
[Android Apps and Games] lets_zock:
If you're using Facebook Messenger privacy shouldn't be such a big concern for you, lol.
[Android Apps and Games] Farzad119:
i like this messanger

i used from 6 month ago
[Android Apps and Games] ed10vi:
Only the secret chat is end to end encrypted, a normal chat is phone-server server-phone, so the conversations can be synced between more devices

It's not a business, it's open source, they didn't make it to earn money
[Android Apps and Games] James Randi:
My notifications of Telegram don't seem to work properly. It seems that I only receive messages when I actually open the app.

Notifications are all on. Phone is used in wifi only atm, no SIM.

Anyone any ideas?
[Android Apps and Games] domenukk:
So the normal chat is not more secure than whatsapp.

Good to know there is an option for save chats, though.

Server Storage and Traffic don't fall from the sky. Open source is nice and everything, but somebody always has to pay something.

Anyway, the App looks very polished.
[Android Apps and Games] ed10vi:
It's more secure: https://telegram.org/faq#security

https://telegram.org/faq#q-who-are-the-people-behind-telegram
[Android Apps and Games] toxic-hero:
i'm not a security expert but according to moxie marlinspike, a developer of renowned secure text messaging app "text secure", this app's security is questionable. he actually called it snake-oil!
[Android Apps and Games] ed10vi:
It's not the most secure system, but I think it is enough. They tryed to find a balance between security and speed

As he says, I peffer the Text Secure protocol, but its unusefull for me, I don't know one single person who uses it, and I don't like the apps
[Android Apps and Games] throwme:
Questionable

I've been using this app for a while now and trying to get in touch with the devs regarding some basic privacy concerns. Essentially - all our data is stored on their servers (unless in the case of "Secret Chats" - which is not the default / passive option). So what happens if you OR the person you're chatting to gets a new number, loses their existing phone, or just deletes Telegram (as you would WhatsApp)? It seems all our data, chatlogs and files (pictures, videos, media, etc) stays on Telegram's servers indefinitely.

Given that this app is so focused on privacy and security, this seems to be a questionmark.
[Android Apps and Games] ayoubij:
im on 1.3.29 so im not sure when was 1.3.26 released but most probably I had it when I still had all these problems :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
What problems are you having? I'm certainly not saying the app is fixed, just some issues got fixed which makes me hopeful that more will be fixed.
[Android Apps and Games] ayoubij:
The problem is soo annoying. I will summarize for you. I have a contact, now what telegram does it DUPLICATES the number of this contact.

so lets say his number is 12345 and home number is 98765 but if he has telegram in 12345 then I will see the number twice in the contact.

I SEPERATED the contact to show you the difference between whatsapp and telegram because whatsapp does NOT do this.

Check screenshots. Hope you understood what I mean, because now I have every contact that has telegram, inside his contact profile he will have the same number twice, which is really confusing and cluttering and annoying especially for contacts that have many numbers.
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
Not a telegram issue, no problem here at all.

Nexus 4, OmniROM 4.4.2
[Android Apps and Games] ayoubij:
That's weird because when i unistall telegram the problem is solved
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
The problem as far as I can make out is that if you have a number stored, Telegram will duplicate it to add the country code. Apparently some work was done to fix this issue. A workaround is to store all your numbers with country codes by default.
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
Nice app but I can't figure out for the life of me how to update the contact list. I know that a contact of my general (not telegram) phonebook has recently installed telegram, but he doesn't show up in telegram's contacts. How to force telegram to rescan my phonebook to see if anyone has installed telegram?

Thanks.
[Android Apps and Games] ayoubij:
Did you enable it from settings >,sync

Settings > telegram > sync now
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
I went in the phone's general sync settings and there it was telegram's contact sync option. I've ticked it and forced a manual sync. Thanks. Not very intuitive at all. At least they should link you to the general settings...

However, the contact still doesn't show up in telegram. :confused:
[Android Apps and Games] ayoubij:
If the contact still doesnt show, go to telegram and in settings below you ll find log out. Log out then log back in
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
Thanks pal. It worked! :)

They should implement this in a better way, though. This is very important: if people don't see an increasing contact list, it's likely that they leave telegram. The logout is probably not neessary: the contact would have eventually showed up after a reboot (I think), but at least they should point you to the general settings to tick the phonebook autosync.
[Android Apps and Games] mcwong644:
Had the same problem, I added the international country code with the + sign to the contact and Telegram will pick that up.
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
Well, telegram did pick up the contacts on the first run. It just didn't have autosync, so it didn't pick up those contacts that installed telegram later. Once I switched on autosync, it did pick up the new contact that had installed telegram in the meanwhile. I don't think in my case the issue is the country code.
[Android Apps and Games] Barracuda77777:
I think they were talking also about the fact if you had in your contacts the mobile numbers with out the international code you I'll end with doubles so by adding the int code then there is no double ups.
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
I don't have the international code in my contacts and telegram correctly recognizes them and doesn't create doubles. It just adds an option to the contact, to send a text with telegram (same as whatsapp does).
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
having issues with this

was updating the names of my contacts, no matter what I can't get the changes updated in Telegram.

- I have tried syncing but it does not work

I accidentally deleted one contact - is there anyway to get it back on Telegram?
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
No way to get it back, relogin to see changes (you will lose all the secret chats)
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
that's bad.. very bad. I deleted my friend by accident... so there's no way to get her back?

I tried relogin before but it did not work... it's stuck no matter what.
[Android Apps and Games] wpkwolfseye:
Nice, using an alternative for WHATSAPP thats not only created by people that made the russian Facebook Clone VK (of course no interest in data, no!) and then from a country that doesn't even have privacy laws. Very secure. Go ahead !

Wolfseye
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
Don't trust crap which is shown on tv. Obama was the first sucker who cried that Putin isn't right. But keep in mind that was America who used African people as slaves, it is America which occupied most of the Muslim countries, American cops shoot kids just for holding a game controller in their hands. Russia tries to protect their own people (if you didn't know most of the Ukrainians speak Russian and not Ukrainian). I have many friends in Ukraine and they say that even their own tv and press tell nonsense which isn't true. It only shows that berkut (kinda swat team) are beasts but those soldiers had a command given by their government not to attack people, and those soldiers just stood while Ukrainian extremists shoot and burned them. Most of those berkut soldiers who survived fight now for Russia — against those extremistic opposition which unleashed a civil war — because their government betrayed them. Over 60% of Ukraine is pro Russia and they are happy that Russia protects them with its military.

So stop talking sh*t when you have no idea what's going on.
[Android Apps and Games] wpkwolfseye:
That has so nothing to do with what is ment in this topic or my comment. I don't have anything against Russia personally, but I don't trust a russian Facebook Clone to care more about privacy than its Western counterparts. So if I care to get away from something like Facebook and WhatsApp, why would I use the next thing...

I don't trust Telegram, its that simple. Nothing against you or against any russian people. Please separate here.

Thank you.

Wolfseye
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
That's your right.

I hate cyanogen mod but I don't post that in every cm thread, I just don't visit these threads, it's that simple
[Android Apps and Games] wpkwolfseye:
I think its my freedom of speech, in a topic about it, to state that I don't trust Telegram and don't see it as a WA alternative. And I only posted it in this topic. So I dont know whats your problem. Others accept your opinions on things, so please do mine. There is no need to make others shut up just because you dont like to hear it.

Thank you.

Wolfseye

P.S: Don't make it personal ! And now please back to topic.
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Thanks for pointing out the ever occurring (and false) argument once again.... sigh.
[Android Apps and Games] wpkwolfseye:
Prove me wrong. But

only

with proof. Then I consider rethinking it.

Wolfseye
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Check their FAQ, they have a lenghty passage concerning their privacy policy and their non-affiliation with VK.

Even though their founders are Russians, their HQ is based in Germany. So, in case, Germany's privacy regulations would apply.

However, it IS an alternative for whatsapp as it offers several advantages, e.g. your communication data is not hosted by one huge company (Facebook & whatsapp), but by a different one which is not related. So the possibility of extensive data mining is deminished.

/edit

Oh, and by the way, Russia has privacy laws indeed.
[Android Apps and Games] ayoubij:
Why? He doesnt want to see hate comments here. It is his opinion. If opinions arent meant to be said except with proof then where is your proof? To me he provided more proof than you just did. So i suggest you consider rethinking it ;)
[Android Apps and Games] wpkwolfseye:
Not trusting something equals hate comments / posts for you guys ? Wow. I don't think I did anything to call what I said "hate" comments in any way, shape or form. I posted my opinion, thats all. That doesn't make it hate because I don't support it. You guys step over a line here I have to say.

Besides, the fact that whatever privacy Telegram upholds in their FAQ doesn't necessarely make it true. I am sure Facebook and Google and Microsoft also say or write a lot of things, that doesn't mean they're all true. For sure not. So why is a FAQ any proof ? Sorry. Just not being so naiv to believe in anything thats posted somewhere.

Wolfseye
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Well, what did you expect with your initial patronizing post?

But as you said yourself, we now know your opinion and should go back to topic as it makes no sense to elaborate on this issue any longer.
[Android Apps and Games] wpkwolfseye:
Appearantly, it seems because of the whole Ukraine / Russia situation you guys see enemies at every corner. I don't think my comments about a few things that are pretty obvious these days (probable relations to VK which is like every other Social Network for sure a data collector) and the fact that a lot of Spam, Warez and stuff like that comes from Russia. Yes, other countries too, just in case before you start with that. But why am I the enemy here and make patronizing comments when all I wanna say is that I don't trust Telegram. As you stated, thats my opinion and I said it. Appearantly I am the bad guy now for making "hate" comments which in fact are none, but ok. Besides, why make all this into an discussion if you just don't want to make it an arguement ? I didn't start, and I don't think that every opinion does necessarely make an arguement. Only if its continued, which you guys have done.

But you're right that it should be back to topic. However, maybe you should put something into the first post of this topic, something that you don't want to hear any negative opinions about Telegram but just the nice things.

Wolfseye
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Would you please stop being butthurt and, if you're now stating that you wanted to start a discussion, how you wanted to do it with your initial post below:

Doesn't seem like there is much potential for a discussion in it.

So, yes, we all now that the VK brothers are behind telegram, but it isn't related to each other, we also know that the used security isn't top-notch, but it aErna better than that if most messengers. And after all, it still is an alternative to whatsapp.

So, please stop alleging that we bunch of guys are harassing you for stating your opinion. It wasn't an opinion in the beginning at all, it was mocking the users.
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
You don't support it, that's the reason why you don't trust it, you don't get that something which is completely free can be good and trustful, all the American apps and games if they are free - have tons of ad craps and/or donations. Linux is completely free and wasn't invented in the USA, USA just can't produce good and at the same time completely free software/solutions
[Android Apps and Games] webwalk®:
telegram or textsecure?

i tried to quote the most interesting posts in this thread...

also someone said people from google+ (that you dont know) end up in your list which is a big nogo xD (couldnt find the post)

maybe the same happens if you sync fb conatcts ?

some people on playstore say "push" is not working properly and you only get msg as long as you are in the app

also whisperpush is almost ready for stable cm releases

http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...ightlies-today-coming-to-cyanogenmod-11-soon/

https://whispersystems.org/blog/cyanogen-integration/

i am in no way affiliated with any of those msging apps.

telegram has closed servers and untill all the code is open source its only as good (and insecure) as commercial apps.

200.000$ contest was nice (but got some serious contra arguments)

also if someone had found a way to grab the email or even hack the server, i bet other companys would pay even more for it.....

what would fb or nsa pay to gain control over telegram? im just sayin....

i like that the telegram team is active and tries to rule out any concern.

text secure is (as far as i can see, which is not far :P) complete open source?!

and it doesnt store messages in on their own servers, rather encrypted on your own device (which is a great +)

while both apps provide enough privacy for most people, its still far from perfect ... still better than whatsapp i guess ;)
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
I'm still having issues with this @_@

On my Phone's contact list, I have a contact Ken.. that I updated with his Last Name.

However, Telegram does not seem to detect that... and keeps his name as Ken

so now I have two contacts of Ken

Ken Lastname

Ken (Telegram)

how do I make Telegram resync my contacts?
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
check if you have sync on (android settings - telegram account), check if you have data on (mobile or WiFi), relogin in telegram's settings, after relogin check again if telegram sync is on I guess it's not after a relogin, so you must activate that checkbox again
[Android Apps and Games] hero355:
Looks good than Whatsapp, But Need to make friends to use it :)
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
I actually reinstalled telegram... so I was pretty annoyed the sync did not happen again. :/ just enabled the sync to try again
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
I noticed a few things:

1) once you log out and relog in, the contacts autosync is gone. You need to apply it again.

2) the app doesn't seem to autorun when you reboot the phone. Messages get delayed until you manually open the app.

Am I right? :confused:

Edit: I just noticed you were already talking about number 1) . :D
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Surprised to see so many problems as I ain't experiencing any so far.

However, two points I don't like:

- private chats are lost if you log out.

- sending videos just sends them as file instead as a video with preview picture.
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
no matter how many times I relogin/sync, my Telegram contacts do not get updated ><
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
New update is out, allowing voice mails.
[Android Apps and Games] Ba7rani123:
Also, now it doesn't add "+country code" to your contacts

But contacts refresh needs work
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
ditto on this... they really need to fix that. it's extremely frustrating (contact refresh issues)
[Android Apps and Games] Ba7rani123:
They mentioned on their twitter that they are reworking the multiple images selection in Gallery... I hope that when sending a video or photo they should ask "Send as Document or Photo/Video"`

They are progressing gradually but the good thing is that they are not adding more bugs than they are fixing :D
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
that's nice.. would be nice if the dev posted more here though.. Telegram can do with a nicer interface (look at EvolveSMS)

and hopefully they fix the contact sync.. and add send gif support
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
@ wilflare: the developers are not posting here. OP stated that he's not affiliated with telegram.
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
Yes, if you send a photo that is too large, it just fails rather than sending as a document. That's really annoying.
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
thanks for the clarification. if only there's a better way to talk to them.

they don't seem very responsive on their Google+ page either
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
Twitter is the only way to get any answer to your questions. I guess it's the only place they try to answer in acceptable time
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
thanks! just tweeted them to fix contacts sync and hopefully implement a Dark or Black Theme
[Android Apps and Games] ayoubij:
I wish on secret chats, something can be implemented that tells us if the other side has taken a screenshot.

Like snapchat, if the recipient takes a screenshot, it tells the user.

Thank you
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
There's just been released 1.4.6 maybe it fixes your issue? Changelog just says bug fixes
[Android Apps and Games] wilflare:
just tried and checked.. no luck :/
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
There were know like 4 updates over the last week with 'bugfixing' in the change log.

Did it correct the contacts bug for anyone?
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
I don't have such bugs at all
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Me neither, but some guys seem like to experience them. So, maybe it was fixed in the meantime.
[Android Apps and Games] :
Everything seems to be working well for me. Small problem: When entering First Name and then pressing Enter on the keyboard, all text is deleted. I would also like to see an option to send normal unsecured texts to contacts without needing to invite them to Telegram. Otherwise i great very quick app.
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
For me the app doesn't always keep open when in background (I'm on Ice Cream Sandwich).

In particular, there are three different situations:

1) if I exit from Telegram using the back button, the app doesn't close (checked in task manager).

2) if I swipe Telegram out of the recent apps menu, it closes.

3) if I exit from Telegram using the back button and

LATER

I swipe it out of the recent apps menu, still it doesn't close.

Number two needs to be addressed ASAP, in my opinion. I guess this is why people tells of delayed messages...
[Android Apps and Games] Ba7rani123:
I think you are a bit confused...

If you swipe any app (including whatsapp) from recents it is closed thats how android works

Pressing the back button should leave it in the ram and you should receive your notifications

hope this helps