yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heavy_metal_man:
ok from here copy the Nmisc.img to your sdcard and do not rename it, leave it on the sd card within no folders.

then connect up the phone in clockworkmod recovery again, and mount the sdcard with mount sdcard and not usb mass storage.

lastly make sure that the 1.01.zip is in your adb folder.

issue the following commands.

adb shell
(your shell symbol should be a #)
flash_image misc /sdcard/Nmisc.img

exit
(now it should not be a #)
adb reboot bootloader

The phone should not reboot into bootloader and should say at the top locked OOW.

This is ok, if it does not say this then your misc image was not flashed.

if all is well issue these commands.

fastboot oem rebootRUU

fastboot flash zip 1.01.zip

This will state an error, and that it needs to be

reflushed

. this is what we want, if any other issue your goldcard may have failed.

repeat the last command to reflush.

fastboot flash zip 1.01.zip

(this will take a while.)

fastboot reboot

the phone should reboot into the WWE stock rom and hopefully your touch screen will be working again. if it is proceed to s-off with revolutionary here ignore all but revolutionary and then if you want the german ruu as a safe flash rom send me a link to the ruu and I will make it. but it make take a few days.

im at work atm so my replys will be delayed pal, good luck :)
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pretendde:
INFOsignature checking...

INFOzip header checking...

INFOzip info parsing...

INFOchecking model ID...

INFOchecking custom ID...

FAILED (remote: 42 custom id check fail)

finished. total time: 63.656s

i flashed 3 times....
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heavy_metal_man:
Your gold card has failed. Format the sdcard and then reissue the fastboot commands.
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pretendde:
Yes the goldcard was bad, now its okay but n ow a new error :

INFOsignature checking...

FAILED (remote: not allowed)

finished. total time: 56.078s

flashed 5 times ...same error
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heavy_metal_man:
Does your bootloader still say locked?
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pretendde:
yes

*** locked (00w) ***
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heavy_metal_man:
And sending the 1.01.zip? That's very odd as it says its not passing the checks but it was earlier, have you changed it in any way? As this would break the signature check.
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Pretendde:
Yeah!

You are the best! :)

I have made the goldcard about 4x ...than it was working! I'm so happy!

I will look to become s-off than update an newer image.....
[Wildfire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] heavy_metal_man:
I'm glad it all worked out :) once you have s-off hit me up via pm and I can make that ruu you wanted originally flashable or try out cyanogenmod 7 :)
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kefienator:
hello,

I flashed omega 7.0 and is got stuck at the 'samsung note 3'-sign at boot. my previous rom was omega 6.0.

can somebody help me?

someone said this would help but it looks like suspisious http://bbs.gfan.com/android-7152451-1-1.html
[Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TomJordens:
Did you flash the bootloader with odin ? 4.4.2 requires the new bootloader

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http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=49669360

You should realy read this before you brick your phone
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Caimarcladev:
Hey All

After a few weeks of stuggling compiling decompiling finally there is the first custom android 4.3 version on our core

this beta is tested for 48 hrs and didn't found any not known bugs (except OTA update fc) , i was planning to only release of final version but i don't wanna keep you guys waiting till final version is finished.

The final version wil not have any big diffrences with the beta one but will be tweaked and tuned to get it even smoother then it allready is.

Here are some of the amazing Functions that r in this rom

*Busy Box 1.3

*CaithZilla HD Engine (custom Kernel)

*Init.d tweaks....

*Zip-align

*Smart Screen Features Like..Smart Stay,Smart Rotation,Smart Pause

*Changeable ui colors

*Reading Mode ,

*Complete PIE Control (will be updated in next version)

*Light Effect ,Ripple Effect , and the premier of Xplode Effect on Unlock Screen

*Transparent Status-bar

*Center Clock & Custom Text In Status Bar Through Xposed installer

*6-Way Boot With

*Ram Optimization

*Net Speed & DNS Tweaks

*Darky Zip-align

*Build Prop Tweaks

*Sony Media Apps (album, Walkman ,Movies ,)

*Playstation Certified

*Multiwindow (In development state putted it in this version as extra in hope you guys can help me out fixing the buggs in it)

*Harman Kardon Sound Enhancer

Installation:

Boot into cwm ( if not installed go here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2517850)

Download the rom and Gapps and put them in Folder Called Rom (Nessecairy for installation process dunno why but if i dont create folder installation is not starting trying to fix it in next release.

Flash Rom First than flash Gapps WITHOUT REBOOT

After Reboot Wipe cache and Dalvic Cache

After installation Proces let Phone rest for 3 min DO NOT TOUCH ANYTHING (you'll notice when its 3 min cause you will get notificastion on screen ) then reboot again.

After 2nd Boot setup Phone and reboot again and enjoy your pimped Galaxy core

Uploading started I'll update thread with sources and screenshots when i arrive home

Download links

Mod Edit links removed

Special Thanks To :

Ayush Khandwal for making mirror

Thecoreguy for making great cwm tutorial

WickedSick for Harman Kardon audio drivers

Hazewind for finetuning

All of you guys for having patience

And ofcourse all the guys from slim roms
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Max B.:
It's so beautiful:D
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] LyQQ:
great work bro cant wait for upload to finish :P
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] vvaibhavv:
WOW

And i was not commenting because i think you will reserve one !

Great work bro ... you done a very best job .... a first rom for samsung galaxy core !

and also you give us a device which can be used to port roms !
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] siddhesh1609:
Even I did think same.. anyways :p

n ya First AOSP rom bro..;):)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] androiderrr:
waiting
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] F@HIM:
Hey excellent work bro..... awesome.. hey will this rom also support crt animation?????
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Can`t wait, this needs to install with Clokworkmod?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
You have installation instruction broo
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] LyQQ:
yeh
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] androiderrr:
Bro better make a new thread in android original development section
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Mayankmotiyani:
Waiting :)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
It will upload today or what?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] vvaibhavv:
You are uploading with

Aircel 2g or what ?? :p

Crocksz
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] fungms:
AT LAST !!! :victory:

I can't wait for download links. I thought that there is no dev for our core... Haven't seen - but I can't wait ...

BEST REGARDS!

:highfive:
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] hcross:
I'm waiting (im)patiently to test it. Thanks in advance. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] androiderrr:
Perhaps his internet connection is down
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] karanpats:
Waiting

Waiting eagerly bro....!!!!!!!!!!!!!:laugh:
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
I'm waiting for this great rom.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Nothing today's for rom? ;-(
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
Guys, one question:

Why this popular model doesnt have cm attention?

I dont know what is problem? Why are only developing for top models 300+ euro?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
I'm have Huawei g300 and million develops and rom. Phone cost 80$ bat have all Cm rom, all roms
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Thats true bro, same with CM, started thread, but now its closed. Dev, please make us to believe that you are doing something. Upload backup, or provide us with the rom in next days.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
This what I can't understand.

Better phone, more users and 0 roms, no CM..

This phone, CORE, is doomed. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] zrox:
omkar provide us a working rom, he is the only one whos active in developing a rom...me myself also can cook a rom but im lazy to do it..i just themed the deodexed rom of singhacker.. hopefully some devs will eager to contribute to the development of our core...
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
I forgot Omkar, great hello to him :).

But i must agree with you: core is underrated by devs despite core's popularity.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] androiderrr:
dont worry guys...just wait 1-2 month.....there will be cm for our device.I will make it possible through collective effort.Right nw iam busy with my university exam
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Omkar work on cm11, omkar it's best.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Caimarcladev:
New rom in testing phase now it will be stock based if no problems pop up i will release beta tomorrow
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] LyQQ:
that rom is 4.1.2 or?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
4.1.2

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Caimarcladev please screenshoot.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Can you upload today?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Frst test 24 hours. And upload ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Give screenshots for our hapiness
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Yes given as screenshoot.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] nkvarman:
Dont force him to do anything let him finish his things and then release. He is trying for this we should really thank him
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Bro no body force him. Screenshoot is not scary.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] torcato:
This rom i8262?

Enviado do meu GT-I8262 através de Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
This rom is for I8260 and I8262!!

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] pheonixxdark:
so will the dual sims work on i8262? or...
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] k.suraj.surendran:
not working on i8262
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Where is upload new rom?

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] torcato:
Now I was confused!ROM is working in dual sim i8262 yes or no?Fikret488

Enviado do meu GT-I8262 através de Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Working bro waiting for upload and go to flashing and injoin ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] torcato:
thank you

Enviado do meu GT-I8262 através de Tapatalk
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Upload today?

Sent from my GT-I8260 - best budget smartphone
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
Guys, don't make pressure. How old are u, 15?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
I'm not forcing, i'm just very very excited to get the rom :D
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Release guys ;) today's coming rom.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] sandeep0048:
Rom uploaded???? when:rolleyes:
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Today's guy's , I don't when!!!

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] sandeep0048:
That's fine take your time atleast release the features :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
I'am not develops bro ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
Guys he said he will release today, IF everything goes right.. don't count on it cuz you will be dissappointed if he doesn't release is today. If he actually does, then its only better. If he gets errors while testing the rom, he said he wasnt going to release it.. So don't count on it:D;)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
That's its true ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] dayanzterz:
just be patient guys

you know how hard it is to build a rom

and i guess the developer has other things to do than just building a rom

c'mon dont be so negative.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
It's frst rom for as members I8260 and not have patients ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] zrox:
a good developer will test his work first before posting it and doesnt begging for thanks..
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
That's it's is true.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
We already have a rom. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Any news dev?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
NO nothing new yet from Dev Caimarcladev.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] djbarishgr:
Galaxy GT-I8260

Installation aborted (Galaxy GT-I8260)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
What are you talking about?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Maybe is flash Slimbean the rom!!!

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
Yes bro dont try to flash the slim bean rom.. This is not a properly good working rom, you can edit the update-script to disable the compatibility check but it still wont boot..
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Bro slimbean don't working.

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Caimarcladev is online, maybe coming update? ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
Maybe someone should take a look at it our create a working kernal for this rom, would be really nice to see 4.3 come to core!

It's a shame I don't have enough sparetime otherwise I would like to do it.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Yes bro, bat no one have time for work with CM Roms

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
Yes exactly but I just finished my examns so maybe now I have a little bit more time. I dont like people that complain about that there are no developers for the core, we should all accept that and start to learn this ourselfs! I dont want to offend people who are working on core roms/tweaks/apk etc... you are doing a very good job right now! keep up the good work!
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Bro Caimarcladev is Dev not me ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
Dude, I know that.. I was talkin in public.........
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Ok bro :) I love Galaxy core bat not have CM roms that is not good :) Coman Dev working :)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Ne
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] MirXas:
I smell some bad news..
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Me too
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Caimarcladev Tell us if there will be a rom or not???? bro

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
He said it will be..
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Nothing for this dress in just us and lie ;-(

Many frivolous dev I just screw with us today, tomorrow and nothing happened. We need a real dev dev who can do the job just let it come in. I will receive from us donations because if this continues, not given to us we never rom for our core.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] zrox:
report this thread to a moderator. this thread must be closed
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Yeah bro, because of this there is nothing obvious that some people here open threads to gather acknowledgments anything else just have a real fool of us!!!

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] dayanzterz:
Why dont you do it yourself? Its your idea anyway. :p:D
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Omkar$:
Someone report this thread I am on Xda app so I can't do it

[MENTION=347552]i826[/MENTION]0 users if u want MONSTER$ rom

Give me ur stock deodexed ROM
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] zrox:
butthurt bro?. im just on mobile
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Sorry, didn`t read the Monster$ rom thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] MirXas:
Working on it.

UPDATE: [MENTION=5170347]Omkar$[/MENTION], I am currently deodex'ing the latest I8260XXAML3_I8260OXXAML3_I8260XXAMJ2 ROM, which was released in 2014.01.15 in Spain (the latest, i think).
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
Is it 4.1.2?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] afaquekhaja:
Any update ??
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
Guys, this is only fooling us, i hoped to get rom, but no, this is only to make more ''thanks''
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] abhijeetc9762:
he made us fool. please close this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Yes This Threade must be closed.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] MirXas:
I'll contact Omkar$ via PM, this thread can be closed.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
I can now open threade, I write that I ported the CM11 and to test and to collect tank meters and roma anywhere I think first of all it is not at all fair!!

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Caimarcladev:
OK that's, i'm working my ass of to provide you guys with a rom , and when it comes to the point that there are some troubles with it i get **** thrown over me like its normal for you guys is this the way you handle poeple in here, now that i have some trouble inpersonal life and try to put every free minute i have so that i can give you the rom. thats not what i deserve so guys you can do what you want with this thread , i'm outta here and will warn every guy who tries to do something for this community bye bye
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
You could at least write why not uploadovan rom and not online and you do not share any information with us. 're Very serious and I all think that we're painting it from roma no R 15 days we turn around like Dand will be Roma and tomorrow and so does the 5 day online and you do not say what's going on with your alleged rum. Such irresponsible dev we do not need.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Caimarcladev:
did you come up with these words yourself , well then at least try to type descent english , and about irresponsebillity, like others i have a personal life and when something is up with that, that has my priority .

Don't worry i already asked thread to be closed. hope you guys find a dev who takes all this **** from you guys
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
one did not ask anything. You said that there will be a tomorrow rom from rom nothing 15 days if there are any problems with the ROM can be nice to write to you guys and it does not work I'll try to fix it when I have the time and no one would complain. But obviously you never saw what real professional dev that's the thing.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Caimarcladev:
dude learn to read i posted that the new rom was in testing after that a got the message from family (i dont even know why i'm explaining to you )and i had a harsh time , sorry that i wasn't thinking of xda when i family member is near to dying , i bet if you were in the same position you also dont think "o have have to put message on forum" when you see a family members life slipping away

last said about it you all can think what you want from it
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] The_Rencis:
I believe you, but look from our perspective, you promised rom for us few days back, and there isn`t, we are feeling fooled, at least give us screens r so. I dont know about others, but i believe you.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] afaquekhaja:
Chillax mahn ... these people here don't have patience. You please ignore them all. Please don't mind them.

---------- Post added at 04:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 04:53 PM ----------

I can understand your situation. How it feels. Take your time buddy. Ignore others.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] siddhesh1609:
If its that personal take care of ur family bro..

But ethically speaking providing a 4.1.2 rom under 4.3 heading is just misleading..

there are people here who will be ready to continue ur work if u share it on github etc..

If u really compiled a kernal provide us with sources.. why not make it available for others to test and develop?

Anyways u do what u feel is proper..:good:

But if u still are thinking about giving us a 4.1.2 rom please close this thread and start a new one:good:
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Omkar$:
Ok bro andd delete all boaltwares from it

My net is slow:(
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Feralss:
Guys, look at the date of the kernel in CaithZilla rom, I think that everything is clear...Sorry for my english
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
2008 ohhh ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Caimarcladev:
OMG dude please read before post your not talking about my kernel thats stock kernel cause i couldn't get custom implemented that's why different kernel was nessecairly
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] :
THATS the reason the ROM won't boot. SlimBEAN requires a kernel developed from it's own sources. Stock kernel won't work.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] siddhesh1609:
n the op has compiled a kernal ... I dont know why he dint post it:silly: if we get hands on the kernal he was talking about then we can experiment
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Boys at all to see that the rookie now we all know why he is not have rom.

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] :
I don't know whether Caimarcladev is cheating or not, but developing for the Core in general is tough. The device doesn't have a proper device tree, which makes things difficult.

Look at the devs point of view. He is trying to work for ya.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Now I do not know a damn thing now after all I'm no longer even sure if there will ever going to get CM rom

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
Why Core doesn't have a proper device tree?
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
I do not know but to me most of the core corresponds sII everything is the same except that the core A5 cortex and SII cortex A9.

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---------- Post added at 01:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:09 PM ----------

But we still do not have the support of the CM if we have the good dev will be CM ROMs

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
yeah well I was tryin to port 4.3 from a sII but got fcked up at the kernal section so I ended up hardbricked, but now were gonna start all over
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
The biggest problem is the kernel

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
yes thats true haha what are you working on bro
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
brother did nothing more in dev waters do not have much experience but unfortunately I am trying to learn and it ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] ReplayMitta:
yeah nice bro me too, it's such an inspiration for me to learn this if I know that im one of the few that is working on it, because there aren't many people for core development..
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
All can be when you want ;) AI nice feeling when you into anything and make me happy people with their work and everyone is happy and satisfied. The feeling is priceless ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] hell_lock:
I can start CM development from March after my exams get over.
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Bravo bro great news in March was close only to begin work on CM ;)

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[Samsung Galaxy Core.] androiderrr:
It will be relatively easy for infinity to port cyanogenmod as he has knowledge about kernel devlopment and implementation
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] zrox:
good to see you're here sir, the great dev from our sgy :D
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] friendfriend:
Its really good news i must admit. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Core.] Fikret488:
Yes good news ;)

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