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[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
Whatsapp doesn't do that. I know that's the ordinary behaviour of Android, but I guess it can be handled by each app accordingly to its needs. There are lots of apps that are designed to never close: for example tasker and so on. They dont't close at all, even when you swipe them out of the recent apps.

Edit: I also noticed that Telegram gets killed very easily when the system is low on memory... I have 1GB of ram.
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
Yes android works this way with ordinary apps, but messaging apps have service that keeps the app work in background. When you swipe such an app, its service is also spied but couple of seconds later service starts again and app is again working in background (listening for new messages). That's how android works.
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
Wow, so that's the technical explanation of what I had experienced! :)

Do you think that the lack of a service is also related to the last "bug" I've noticed? I.e. Telegram gets killed very easily when the system is low on memory. The service is how whatsapp, tasker and so on manage to never force close: that is they get closed but immediately reopen thanks to the service?
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
Yes services can be killed when ram is low, as soon as you have enough free ram service will start automatically (there is also a bug in kitkat that prevents services sometimes to restart automatically, don't know if ics is affected by this bug too)
[Android Apps and Games] nor-ric:
Well, I can say that tasker, whatsapp and so on never close, even when there are tons of apps opened and the memory is full. So I don't think there's a bug in ICS.
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Telegram got two updates in between, providing additional languages and some minor stuff, e.g. GIF support.

Funny thing!
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
GIF support is great. If only they could fix GIF sharing directly from G+

Still need to be able to disable last online time though.
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
Haha, GIFs are great. Could already impress my family with animated pictures. :D
[Android Apps and Games] davboc:
The only aspect to improve for me is the syncronize of notifications: I have telegram on three devices, if I chat with a device, every message that i receive generates a notification on the other two device. I think that, like in the other chats clients, the notification must be postponed of a few seconds, and if the message is already read in another device during this time the app shouldn't generate the notification... or am I doing something wrong?
[Android Apps and Games] OlMightyG:
Is there any official forum where the developers are active too?

I hope the development goes on...
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
Sadly no. The developer of the Android app isn't very community facing and I think is a bit taken back by the excitement of the community.
[Android Apps and Games] JustSkilled:
push notifications work on none of my devices.

often exchange services force close

no background process opened for the app that I could see with greenify

messages only come in when I open the app

as soon as I go back to lockscreen the app is closed.

:(
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
It has nothing to do with exchange. Clear app data or reinstall. Enter number again and you should get notifications.
[Android Apps and Games] struts3k:
Is there anyway to back up the messages, media file from the telegram cloud to local storage ?
[Android Apps and Games] OlMightyG:
I think Telegram failed / will fail because of the non-happening spread and problems. A lot of people around me changed back to whatsapp because telegram was not reliable. I dont know exactly what their problem was. I dont have any problems with it and i like it!

But some say that it does not show notifications, some say that some messages get lost...

So they went back to whatsapp. Sad.

So we have to hope that facebook somehow messes whatsapp up to get the people to change.
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
If you (not exactly you, just saying) get no notifications reinstall telegram. Sometimes it happens after Google play services update.
[Android Apps and Games] OlMightyG:
Yeah, ok, I know. and I helped some people this way.

But think of the non-tech-guys, especially girls. For them it has to work. They dont google problems and dont try anything. "It does not work" - > dont use it anymore.

A lot of users are like this, thats the problem...

edit: just talked to a friend. he proved, that a message got lost, although he got a double-check. The other person did not get the message at all.
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
Anyone got the Telegram 1.5 apk? The update was only rolled out to 5% of users?
[Android Apps and Games] Thomas_BA:
I searched wth Google and found 1.5.2 here: www.apks.org (hope it is not warez)
[Android Apps and Games] nicram:
https://rink.hockeyapp.net/apps/a5b5c4f551dadedc9918d9766a22ca7c/app_versions/245
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
I just compiled it from github in less then a minute and have a higher build and I can be sure nobody added any crap stuff to the apk
[Android Apps and Games] Barracuda77777:
latest update being rolled out, now have its own push service, so no more relying on google push service.
[Android Apps and Games] dearestk:
i would prefer it to retain google gcm only and not independent push. now there is a service constantly running just like whatsapp. but i guess i understand the rationale behind this implementation for those without play services. it's a pity though.
[Android Apps and Games] _artem_:
I hate it... Compiled from source. Conflicting signatures. Removed play store version. Installed my self compiled version. And couple of hours later they roll official update. Pfffffd
[Android Apps and Games] darkpollo:
Hi,

Do you know why there are two android telegram apps?

This is the official: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.messenger

And this is not the official, but both seems the same thing.

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.telegram.android

Is the second one a Scam or something?

Would be possible to use both at the same time with two different phone numbers on the same phone?

If not, Any other idea to do it?

Thanks
[Android Apps and Games] :
There was a contest for building telegram app. The winner app became official app. Second place app became unofficial S version. It's not scam just another client

Yes you can use both with different numbers at the same time

https://telegram.org/faq#q-how-is-the-s-edition-for-android-different
[Android Apps and Games] darkpollo:
Thank you. Great news.
[Android Apps and Games] Untot:
I just found another promising client:

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.telegramx
[Android Apps and Games] mr.b4rt:
looks good

but only the emoji plugin stutters
[Android Apps and Games] priyansha.ranaut:
You can also try out Photo4tune if you have privacy issues! Tried and tested and loving it!

For more info you can check out: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.photo4tune.navigator
[Android Apps and Games] Traace:
Love Telegram, we removed Whatsapp here :)
[Android Apps and Games] OlMightyG:
I am missing an option to switch telegram into a dark-themed mode.

I think i will switch to telegramx. But i have issues with the emojis. There are no emojis available.
[Android Apps and Games] Untot:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.telegramx.emoji

but I'm using the emojis built in my keyboard.
[Android Apps and Games] OlMightyG:
Yes, but the thing is, that it worked before. After a systemupdate the emojis were gone. Now there is a link to download a plugin. But i can not download the app.
[Android Apps and Games] Shaurya007:
actually telegram is not so popular...

I jave used many apps for Messaging but telegram is the best..u know why? coz its ui is quite same like watsapp but telegram gives you mre features than watsapp..and someone say that telegram name is not good or something like that..but dont go on name brother..when it will becum popular then you will see that its a nice name..just se watsapp..what it means?? when u were not using it the name also seems a bit not good or something like that..but now you like it.

telegram is better than whatsapp and is best for girls actually...is really secure..and you can program messages for self destruction..end to end encryption of messages is also there...its the best..I have switched frm whatsapp to telegram and hike...you can also give a try to hike mesaaging app..;)
[Android Apps and Games] Cookie Ninja:
Your post was good! Made me laugh (roflmfao) due to its scant regard to grammar , syntax, sentence composition, structure and spelling (autocorrect was off?). Thank you for infusing humour into my otherwise, dull day.....

Dead Cookies leave no trails...
[Android Apps and Games] Shaurya007:
actually I am in the habit of writing in short form..and there were some mistakes but I thought everyone will be able to understand what I wanted to say so I didn't correct them..

the above message in short form for you ;)

actuly I m hvng d habt of wrtng in shrt frm..n dere wer sum mstks bt I thought evry1 will b able 2 undrstnd wat I wntd 2 say so I didnt crrct dem..

edit:CORRECTED! :P
[Android Apps and Games] Cookie Ninja:
...should read

"I am in the habit of...blah blah blah....so I didn't correct them". Fixed that for you (ftfy).....

Dead Cookies leave no trails...and a bit of a grammar Nazi....
[Android Apps and Games] Shaurya007:
now it is correct..:p..haha.By the way thanks..
[Android Apps and Games] kronka:
Hi,

I recently got a new SIM & number, but it seems I'm still using Telegram with my old number. I never logged out, because who does...Some questions:

Can I use my old account indefinitely? What if my old number will be used again?

If I log out I have to create a new account right? How will that look for my telegram contacts, will I be someone else?

What about all my messages (secret and non-secret). Will they still be there?

Thanks in advance for any hints about this!
[Android Apps and Games] nigelinux:
Any way to export the chat history?
[Android Apps and Games] kaiumaka:
You can use your secret chats as long as nobody logs you out, but the new owner is going to read and write your regular and group chats.

New number =new account, but you can try other telegram client with new number and see how many time you can last with your old secret chats.
[Android Apps and Games] Vitin1010:
I like him because of their safety, have pity that he has few friends
[Android Apps and Games] freeger:
from mother Russia with love)
[Android Apps and Games] mrtrickio:
just installed (v1.8.3) and it seems to be sending text msgs by default to the home contact number stored in my contacts as opposed to a telegram message to them... might be related but when I "invite" someone via the app the message is created via SMS but to the home number in the contact. any suggestions?
[Android Apps and Games] Bone of god:
Pavel Durov with your application. The hysterical person. The most typical messenger
[Android Apps and Games] sabret00the:
I don't get what you're trying to say?
[Android Apps and Games] Cookie Ninja:
Dead Cookies leave no trails...
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
New update is out, offering video compression for 4.1 devices.
[Android Apps and Games] prashantvrm:
Nice work! but its not easy to make everyone to exit whatsapp and use Telegram.
[Android Apps and Games] Vit5000:
I think people forgot already about whatsapp and Facebook and don't really care. New user on telegram should be growing quite slowly ...
[Android Apps and Games] dortmunder29:
Share on other social apps that you using Telegram now

Hello everyone, i like this "APP" very much.

i want a button in the client.. to share that im using Telegram on other platforms like facebook or google+.

So my friends are aware of it !

Would be great to higher population

Thank you
[Android Apps and Games] Pigtower:
That is a interesting chat app for security message to work on Sony Z.
[Android Apps and Games] Ortiplaxy:
When Pavel Durov managed social network VKontakte, I trusted him and used it, but as soon as he left there, I immediately went after him, after she got the first assembly telegram I immediately started to use it. Great app! ;)
[Android Apps and Games] Guids:
Hi, a question I have is:

Is telegram's regular chat any more secure then whatsapp?

Ofcourse, the secure chat has end-to-end encryption. But how does the regular chat stacks up.

Please understand my ignorance.
[Android Apps and Games] nknwn666:
There is no difference with the regular chat comparing it to whatsapp.
[Android Apps and Games] jimmykorea:
Anyone used Getgems Telegram app? It claims to pay users with cryptocurrency if they add friends and use the app?
[Android Apps and Games] tag68:
Is there any way to give a contact an attribute or account type so it gets not synced with Telegram?
[Android Apps and Games] HanZie82:
Whatsapp < Telegram

Untrue!

Whatsapp uses a much lower encryption rate (40bit or 56bit DES encryption) than

Telegram (56-bit symmetric AES encryption, RSA 2048 encryption and Diffie–Hellman secure key exchange.) for its regular texts.

Also Whatsapp had a lot of flak against it for being so unsafe. And Telegram is open-source so if you dont believe me get the tools and find out yourself.

Source: https://blog.thijsalkema.de/blog/2013/10/08/piercing-through-whatsapps-encryption-2/

And the new Whatsapp peer-to-peer encryption isnt all that too.

Altho Telegram is not completly safe (if you have acces to the server which is very hard) It's definatly NOT the same.

Source: https://blog.thijsalkema.de/blog/2014/04/02/breaking-half-of-the-telegram-contest/

And i take offence that you without knowing anything just type that stuff up. Because there are people who listen/read to that kind of nonsense.

So dear reader please keep in mind every halfwit can post on this forum (im the perfect example) so again Don't believe everything you read here, some people are just ignorant!

And those people are perfect for whatsapp, anyone who knows anything about it stays away from it.

ps. not affiliated with either of these 2 companies!
[Android Apps and Games] kojak1989:
How to remove channel from this app in html version?
[Android Apps and Games] Hadi.mehdizadeh:
Telegram
[Android Apps and Games] astronomich:
Good for everyday communication, but still unsuitable for communication at work. If it crashes you unable to use it and the whole working process freezes. Same with Skype and any other app that needs the Internet connection. We use MyChat. It's not perfect but the program can work in LAN and in slow Internet connections which is a key factor for us.

[IMG="interface"]https://nsoft-s.com/imgfornews/mychat70/carousel/en/commoncontactslist.png[/IMG]
[Android Apps and Games] anwar amu:
It's seems that telegram have a flaws in terms of privacy. Please look at the pictures. I believe that nowadays user should be able to choose whether they appear online or not.

For Telegram developer, Please fix this 'BUG'
[Android Apps and Games] alexman505:
Hi everyone!

There's some possibilities to import Whatsapp chat into Telegram?
[Android Apps and Games] salmanfarisy:
Sounds impossible for me.
[Android Apps and Games] galwayguy:
I am using Telegram X & like it but is there any way to stop repeat notifications. On other versions you can set the repeat interval but I prefer X as the typing box is bigger.

Is there any way to increase the font size, in the typing box, on the other Telegram versions ?
[Android Apps and Games] XtraWater:
Telegram saves documents, pics, videos. How to disable this?
[Android Apps and Games] nopbreak:
Since last update telegram is not displaying emoji in chat
[Android Apps and Games] alexsam986:
There are lot of secure chat solution providers have in online market. I have referred few for your reference.

1. MirrorFly

2. Apphitect

3. Cometchat
[Android Apps and Games] Saswata Chakraborty:
I am not sure if this is the official XDA thread for Telegram app. I just wanted to report an ongoing issue on latest Telegram android app (7.2.1) for the past few days. The app keeps showing "Connecting" every now and then and during the time I can not send or receive any messages. Please don't tell me it's an issue on my phone or internet as everything else is working fine. I tried on wifi and mobile data, uninstalled and reinstalled the app, not using any ad blocker or vpn. It's only Telegram (not Telegram X) app that keeps showing "Connecting". I checked on Google and looks like it's not only me who is facing this issue. There's something wrong on either Telegram app or their server.
[Android Apps and Games] andy_light:
Hey. Does anyone knows how to disable vibration in Telegram in calendar, polls, replying by swipe, etc?

I used App Ops to disable vibration at all in Telegram, but it is still present in described cases.
[Android Apps and Games] andy_light:
I'm surprised. Really nobody uses this application and everyone likes undisabled vibration?
[Android Apps and Games] domenukk:
It's exactly the same WhatsApp. Just that whatsapp has no open API and no secure Chats.
[Android Apps and Games] toxic-hero:
you don’t need to find a balance between security and speed if you can get both. maybe between security and simplicity but, anyway, there are plenty of better secure messengers available.
[Android Apps and Games] James Randi:
Please recommend any more secure alternatives that look good, work, are free, and are compatible with iOS, Android and Windows Phone. :(
[Android Apps and Games] xyrer:
For an app that presents itself as "secure" this is not very secure, and even annoying, I use g+ and like many other users, I have circles with people I don't personally know or want to get in direct contact with, still, if one of those people installs telegram, we both appear as each other's contact and our numbers are exposed.
[Android Apps and Games] toxic-hero:
at the moment i recommend threema. in the very near future (with v2 and ios version) definitely textsecure.

more:

http://missingm.co/2014/02/fighting-dishfire-the-state-of-mobile-cross-platform-encrypted-messaging/
[Android Apps and Games] James Randi:
I know Threema and its close to perfect for privacy I guess, but without people in your contact list having it, it is useless. And it is hard to convince people to download an app they have to pay for.

"Why should I pay if whatsapp is free? I don't have anything to hide..."

Stuff like that is why I find Telegram useful... it is free, it looks good, people know how it works from whatsapp, and you can get it for Android, iOS, and Windows Phone. I was able to convince some people to download and use it, at least for contacting me.

But yeah, the whole thing starts to smell a bit... odd. Especially the Moxie Marlinspike arguments make me wonder if in the end Telegram is even worse than the usual suspects. :(
[Android Apps and Games] throwme:
?

In this regard it's actually the opposite of WhatsApp - WhatsApp has no central server for our messages or media (probably for our phone numbers, though). All data is stored locally. Telegram stores all our data centrally by default.
[Android Apps and Games] riomilan:
Nice App., UI same as Whatsapp

I'll try it :good:
[Android Apps and Games] Ba7rani123:
Many people are ranting that its the same as whatsapp so whats the use ? or Its not really secure because it uses your phone number

To know if an app is secure or not we have to look at 4 things:

Where is the company based ?

Who made it ?

Are the protocols secure ?

Privacy Policy

It is as Russian company with servers in British Ivory Islands(which keeps it away from the russian gov and the NSA)

It was founded by the brothers Nikolai and Pavel Durov who are the founders of VK and are known to support wikileaks and other "pro-privacy" organisations

It uses their own protocol "MTProto". The company said it would give 200,000 bitcoins to anyone who can find a bug in their protocol. 3 Russion analysts found a few issues and they were given 100,000 and the issues were fixed as soon as possible. Other companies like whatsapp dont care because for many years it has been sending our texts without any encryption and now it uses a very weak type of encryption which can be easily broken by the NSA.

In their Privacy Policy they strictly show that they will NOT share any data with third parties.

But... Why is it better than Whats app ?

All Chats are encrypted. It uses its own encryption(MTProto) which was made to have a balance between speed and security.

- In normal chats it uses Client/Server and Server/Client encryption(which is considered secure based on many security experts who have analyzed the app), here your chats can be accessed on other devices(by signing in ofcourse) through the cloud

- In "Secret Chats" the encryption is Client/Client meaning even the builders of this app cannot see your conversations. Here you cannot access them using the could. That's why secret chat isn't used as default

It is Open-source

It allows you to send files up to 1GB in size

Allows you to send documents, zip or rar files

It has a cloud feature meaning I can access my chats from my computer and other devices, some may see this as insecure.

Cons :

It uses phone numbers(actually its not a big issue since your phone number is already all over the net !!)

Its exactly like whats app ? well its more of a Pro than a con because anyone can easily change to this with the above advantages

Conclusion :

Nothing is 100% secure but it is definitely more secure than any other app here. Also, it will remain free according to their FAQ because their goal is PRIVACY. Also, their may be an option to remove the "Last seen" in the future. Their FAQ answers many questions if you have any head over their.

FAQ:

https://telegram.org/faq

Source:

Arabic: https://cyberkov.com/?p=1354

you can use Google translate to read it :D
[Android Apps and Games] toxic-hero:
you're right, most people would never pay for an app if they could get another one free. and commercial free apps are not interested in making secure apps because they have to make money end if you're not paying for their apps, somebody else have to, so they are selling the data you kindly share with them to third parties (advertisers) and that makes you their product, not their customer.

the problem with secure open source apps is that they are not making any real money so they don't have whole teams of developers that get paid to make and improve the code daily. so their developement is slow and they sometimes really look awful.

WhatsApp is the a typical example of the first and most apps here are examples of the second. Telegram seems trying to be somewhere in the middle, but i don't know if you can seat on two chairs at the same time...

anyway, i'm looking forward to the new version of textsecure with a state of the art privacy/security, a great design and an IOS counterpart.

this claim is provenly wrong!

more on telegram:
[Android Apps and Games] lozohcum:
That's why I'm looking for alternative untill I fix most important bugs in CM11 which I'm developing for my device.
[Android Apps and Games] AlphaBravo:
Another WhatsApp

this is another whatsapp with same look :eek:
[Android Apps and Games] Ba7rani123:
Thanks for the info !!

I knew someone would reply :D

Edit : I found this interesting article.

http://paulmillr.com/posts/the-story-of-telegram/

I actually do agree with the fact that "never make your own encryption" unless you are an expert but to be 'fair' no one has broken it yet. So instead of all the people ranting, I suggest they should try to break it.

If they succeed, I am sure the developers would fix it and if it proves to be totally crap they would change it... Because that is their goal in the end.
[Android Apps and Games] hectorlangthang:
looks very promising!