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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] venorme:
Thank you - haven`t noticed these.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Mi|enko:
I have a N3 and a ZU (GPe). I use my ZU as a portable tablet. My Z tablet, I only use for flights and I find my Nexus 7 a little too big to carry around for every day use. For me, the ZU and Nexus 5 combo are great for various tasks throughout the day.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
As I said, change it to manual ISO 50 or 100 and it looks a LOT cleaner.

If we are going to say garbage then I can say that from pretty much any camera phone compared to my real cameras so its all in the eye of the beholder ;)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chefdave12118:
You can play with the settings all you'd like, but in low light situations picture results are less than to be desired (garbage may have been a little harsh :) ). I would have kept the Z Ultra Google Play Edition, but having kids and owning a restaurant, having a better camera than the Z Ultra was a must for me. Z Ultra is my all time favorite phone, but that camera made me mental. If taking pictures isn't a priority for you the the Z Ultra is pure win. If you count on good pics or an LED flash daily then you're S.O.L with the Ultra. Just saying. :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
Problem is to me, if taking picture is a priority then you get a REAL camera..so for me picture taking priority and phone camera are not terms that go together. ;)

Also, a tiny flash for low light photography is for me as crappy as a grainy low quality image. Both suck big time..that why we have real cameras with big sensors if photography is really that important.

Just my 2 cents

And like I said, test them..I did MANY times with many apps...manual ISO on .290 roms is a LOT cleaner. But yeah neither can touch a real camera as should be expected.

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chefdave12118:
Maybe I'll get a galaxy zoom lol. Idk. The Note 3 and LG G2 take really nice pics. I don't need professional quality, but decent pics to share and what not. Now stop arguing with me lol j/k :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
Okok I get carried away when it comes to photography :D

Sent from the Mighty Xperia Z Ultra using XDA Premium HD app.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] chefdave12118:
Lmao
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
I should have known it was coming! :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ps000000:
I have been using N3 N9005 for 2 month

PROs

- Very Bright Screen and White !!!

- Custom ROMs !!! / MODs !!!

- Pen (I dont use much)

- Removeable Battery

- USB 3.0 (Did not notice transfer speed different)

- Many chinese made accessories (Cheap)

(N9005 transferred to my wife)

Z Ultra C6833 for 1 month

- Big screen !!!! (for Watching VDO / Gaming)

- Easy downgrading firmware (Sammy locked)

- Port protection
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Hey-ho, slow your roll. Are you telling me that it's not possible to downgrade the Note 3?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] ps000000:
Oh I may be confuse N9005 with my previous I9505 (S4 LTE)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2250824

( I use I9505 for 3 month before N9005 )

It Irreversible to downgrade back to 4.2.2
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Well, good thing we all dropped Samsung then :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] dimex:
Thanks everyone for your extremely prompt and thorough replies, can't say the Note 3 forum is better when it comes to that. Nice Z Ultra crowd :)!

Someone mentioned dev support lacking on the Z Ultra. I expected that and it doesn't bother me. I understand Sony has way less of a developer population than the Samsung marketing super-machine, let alone one for the Z Ultra, which is definitely a niche device for a very small crowd. I do love modding and flashing, but I would go with the GPe version if I bought the Z Ultra for fast updates and support, unless some of you could steer me in the other direction. Nonetheless, I've read that Sony's UI is pretty minimalistic and close to vanilla, but which version do you recommend for the ZU? I've also read that the GPe doesn't utilize the same DPI as the Sony ZU resulting in wasted space and larger icons; true?

Regarding the camera, I find myself taking pictures maybe once every 3 days, tops; I've never been much of a picture taker, and don't do the whole "let's take a picture of my dinner and this flower and that cool looking cloud," I just don't give a ****. It's definitely convenient to have such a capable sensor in my pocket, but I mostly use the camera flash as a flashlight in the dark. I have a Rebel T2i from my skydiving days (mounted it on my helmet with a bite switched routed to my mouth to shoot stills of tandems alongside a Sony CX150 for video), so if I find myself needing to take a picture, I might as well use a much better camera. I will probably get rid of that sometime soon before it depreciates more and buy Sony's clip on unit, which looks very cool and plenty capable to me. The T2i is too much camera for me now-a-days anyways. Any of you have experience with the DSC-QX10 or DSC-QX100?

Do you guys answer the Z Ultra in public and hold it up to your ear? I know that would look ridiculous, and the Note 3 already takes up a good portion of my face. I honestly don't really care though, hell I'm in a wheelchair which looks weird enough, a giant phone dwarfing my head will just complete the package. Just wondering though, do you use the SBH52 BT headset thingy or just hold the phone up?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hansip87:
Based on the Verge and Android Authority review of GPe version, they do agree on one thing.. that Sony's UI is already near stock experience and with a lot more useful feature in tow (like that Smart Social Camera app or the Xperia Theme app). Plus it has more room to be used due to smaller dpi (320 on XZU vs 400 on ZUGPe) so unless you need the latest and greatest Android version, the Xperia version will serve you better.

I have tried to NFC pair between the two with my XZU and it works flawlessly most of the time (long pairing time is the only issue for now). Plus it is promised to be updated with faster sync in the future. I even have tried to connect with NEX-5T and RX100 Mark II and they work flawlessly too. So there's a lot options for our phone nowadays when talking about camera :) if you like to use a flashlight in the dark, unfortunately XZU won't be able to serve you. The only option is to turn on some white background app (chrome) and be content with that.

I have the cheap one, the MBH10 and it is sufficient for me to be not look ridiculous. Plus it have NFC capability so pairing is very easy to do. But even without that, some people said that it depends on the person, if the person is qualified as a tall big person, then it will not look as ridiculous compared to a small person. And to think that i'm an Asian.. You got the drift.. ;)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jkr284:
I came from note 2 - Z1 - Note 3 - Z Ultra. I love the Ultra but the only thing I'm missing is the 32gb outboard storage for games that the Note 3 had. I'm gonna look through these Ultra forums to see if there is a good install to sd app.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jamesst20:
I sold today my Galaxy Note 3 Snapdragon in exchange of a Xperia Z Ultra, no regrets at all! Sony ROM is so amazing, I don't even feel like I need CyanogenMod whereas I felt it with my Note 3.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] angel.grin:
The only thing you're going to miss from the note 3 is the wide variety of cases. It very hard to find a good case for the XZU
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
We have some nice ROMs now (15 or 16 in total now) like Monx', Dogg ROM, a fully functional GPe port, CM10.2, CM11, PAC, PA, Omni and Carbon, so it's not completely dead in that department, so if you decide to go for the Xperia version you'll be able to use Sony ROMs, GPe port and other AOSP ROMs, while if you go for the GPe version you'll only be able to run AOSP ROMs. I love the stock ROM and it's solid like a rock.

Stock runs at 320 DPI while the GPe runs at 400. You can easily set the GPe to 320 though, so that's not an issue.

I'm not going to discuss the camera again. You're probably pretty informed on that part now, so no point in mentioning that part again :p There are some people around here with the QX10, and i believe it works well, but the Ultra doesn't have the back cover for the QX10/100 yet but it's scheduled to be released now in January. There's a QX-thread somewhere around here (in the accessories section i think).

Yeah, i hold it up to my ear in public :p People around here (where i live) are used to phablets now, so i'm not getting a lot of reactions when i use it. People are curious of course, but people aren't commenting when i hold it up to my ear. I do however hold my hands near the top of the phone when talking into it, so my hand covers most of the phone. It'll look even bigger if you hold it at the bottom, so you may not want to do that (unless you don't care what people think; which is a good thing) :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] SpyderTracks:
Am I right in thinking [MENTION=2784807]DooMLoRD[/MENTION] is now aiding development also?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] dimex:
I was planning on using a wallet case with the Z ultra. I've never used one, but with a phone this big I think it would be good to consolidate. I misplace my wallet but never my phone.

Have you used any of the wallet cases? There's the incipio Watson Folio http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00EW6M2RM but the reviews don't look that great. I also looked at all the ones on zultracases.com or whatever that site is, as well as all the Chinese ones on eBay. Some look good, but probably aren't good quality.

Have you had any experience with the wallet Folio cases?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
folder mount works great! :good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] SpyderTracks:
I've used the krussel malmo wallet case, it's good for about 3 weeks before it falls to bits without any provocation, I would steer clear personally.

If you can afford it and want a really nice case, check out http://www.noreve.com/langue/en.html Sexy!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] dimex:
That Krussel looked really nice, but I couldn't really see the credit card slot well in the picture. Was there just room for one card?

Do you use the Noreve case now? It looks very nice but seems like there's no slots for credit cards which is a requirement of mine, and it leaves the whole sides exposed. I could settle for that but what I'm looking for, if I can find the perfect case, is:

Full wrap around case on the inside with corners protected and a small lip above the screen for the off chance that it falls face down

Magnetic closure, not flapping open and not with one of those bungee straps

All ports available, especially magnetic charging which is what I want to use to mount the ZU in my truck as a head unit and utilize for quick charging and fast removal

3 slots that could hold 2 cards each would be perfect. I carry around a little card holder that holds my license, insurance card, and 3 credit cards

Foldable design to use as a stand

Something else I forgot and will edit this when I remember

The Incipio Watson struck me because it has the card slots and a case on the inside that protects the phone like a slim armor case. The inside case is even removable, and I thought it would be cool to throw the magnetic mounts on that and the receiving end on a plane black painted sheet of wood or plastic where my Nexus 7 is currently mounted as a head unit in my truck, so I could get in and slap the Z ultra on the panel to mount it quickly and without a clamp arm (my other option). I feel that would be the fastest way to mount it every time I got in and would look the cleanest. I would have a small hole in the panel and route the magnetic charging cable from the dock through it to charge the Z ultra quickly.

Only problem with this idea is: The Incipio Watson's removable case has cutouts for everything except the magnetic charging port, no stand function, and an awkward elastic band to hold the case shut.

Now that you know my case requirements, know any that would work?

Anyone else chime in?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] nielo360:
Iv had a lot of samsung phone's including the note 2. The xperia z ultra has style, its an ideal phablet for multimedia consumption which is the sole reason I got it.

I also own a note 2014 10 inch with calling facility which has similar feature to the note 3. I think in the case of the Note 3 its the software that really makes the device itself and if you like the s-pen it would not be easy to get into xperia z ultra due to lack of palm rejection. Otherwise if you like gaming and regularly browse the xperia z ultra is a pleasant experience.

the Z ultra is my favourite phone so far but it does have few flaws,

speaker quality is average at best

camera quality is one of the worst in a flagship device.

Screen touch issues if your hand is wet or sweaty your screen may go haywire for a bit.

I can look past this stuff because its an ideal phablet for me as i have big hands and mostly use it for gaming.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] dimex:
So can I, the main reason I'm getting it is for ease of media consumption as well (surfing internet, watching movies, etc). Not much of a gamer, but same idea here.

Only decisions I'm making before purchasing the phone are if I want regular or GPe and finding a wallet case that fits the bill. If you have regular ZU, how do you like the Sony ROM?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
Check the thread about a user looking the Sony rom. I personally love the rom. I won change to any aosp Rom as this one is light... smooth and takes advantage of the added real state and I keep the Sony extras so it's a win win for me

Sent from the Mighty Xperia Z Ultra using XDA Premium HD app.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
- GPe: Only AOSP ROMs

- Xperia: Stock + AOSP ROMs

I would get the Xperia version. Just flash the GPe port if you want a GPe, i guess :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Benjiro:
Got me a sanDisk Ultra 1 64GB SD card ( 40€ ), and just moved all non-essential stuff to that. This way the 16GB onboard can be used for applications / games, and "static" data like mp3's, comics, etc are on the slightly slower SD card... Well, not exactly slow ...

A1 bench:

SD Card: 44.4MB/s read, 10.63MB/s write

Internal: 79.15MB/s read, 31.02MB/s write

So ... while its slower then internal, its massive overkill for things like mp3's, comics, movies, and other data. Seen people report even faster times, with the more expensive sanDisk Extreme ( U2 ), but that is about 70% more expensive.

Take it from me, the 16GB vs 32GB internal storage is not a big factor, when you have SD card access anyway. It IS a big difference when you do not have SD access ( like some HTC models, or the Nexus models )!!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jkr284:
I got a fast 80mb/s micro sd card that I have filled with music and movies. It's also my camera app default save area.

Problem is that I have already used over 10gb in apps and games some games are 1.5gb plus like anomaly 2 and asphalt 8 both which are a joy on the massive z ultra screen. When I had the Note 3 I had 20gb in paid apps installed. My bootloader is not unloackable and I can't root so I'm all out of options short of getting another z ultra which can be unlocked etc which would be costly. A premium phone nowadays should have minimum 32gb app storage space built in. I only have 570MB left on my internal storage and I refuse to use extra data re downloading stuff as and when I need it.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Benjiro:
To be honest, i am surprised how fast you fill up that 11GB ( what is really available on the ZU ). I just checked, and despite have a few games, and about 15 installed apps, i still have 10GB free.

I agree that these days, 16GB is indeed small if you install those huge games. But think how people will feel with 16GB Nexus devices? :)

Even 32GB Nexus devices without the SD, are practically a constant struggle of fighting for space. 32GB - 4 or 5GB for the OS. Leaves only 27GB. Some games, music, comics, movies, en wham ... Remember, i came from a HTC HD2, with only like 512MB space, and a 16GB SD card ( with 3GB used by navigation software ). Trust me that things do become relative depending where you come from ;)

If you had root access, you can just move some less used games to your SD card with links. One option is to buy a second hand ZU, root it, and sell your 'old' one to compensate. Or wait until somebody figure out a way past your current locked boot. Personally, i go with option 1 ... get a good one that can be unlocked from somebody second hand, and later sell your to get your money back.

For the rest there is really no alternative to the ZU on the market. So we need to live with the limitations ( like the non-removable battery *grrrrr* ). Personally i have been thinking about buying a extended battery case ( enhance the battery ) for the ZU, and then modding the case for adding a 128GB SD card ( using the USB port ). But that is just me ( not happy with the current cases on the market ).

Some things we can solve, other are just a pain. I wish you luck in to find a solution for the 16GB limitation. Like i said, your best bet is getting a unlocked / rootable ZU, and then using App2SD or other solutions ...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] don2012:
So I got my ultra yesterday and I have to say it's awesome.

As you can see my signature of my pervious phones. I wanted big screens so yeah its the best. The only downside I have noticed is you definitely need a sd card since your going to watch and play hd games :). Not sure about battery life yet....one last thing You CAN'T type with one hand....:p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kirdroid:
Got my Z Ultra yesterday as well. Loving this big screen, but man when I held it for the first time I was amazed at how thin and light it felt but without the crappy plastic. Premium, big, light.

Also this Sony rom feels butter, I'm saying this after owning practically every flagship out there.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hansip87:
But you can swipe it when on one handed keyboard mode :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Benjiro:
Yea ... with this screen, you will want, correction, need a nice 64GB SD card. Try installing Comicrack for Android, and reading some comics in landscape mode. Works like a charm, very readable. I put it in full width mode ( so you just tap to go down 1/3 per tap on your page ) + border removal active in the settings.

Yea, one hand typing is a no-no, even when you enable the left / right side keyboard mode. Its too heavy to hold comfortably like that. Personally, i prefer two hand typing, or stylus writing ( using a chop stick *lol* ... Really need to buy a real stylus *lol* ). I am amazed at how good the handwriting recognition is ( then again, used to writing in "block letters" from when i was young. Habit i picked up in school thanks to technical drawing where it was required *lol* ).

Battery life is really not bad. I mean, i did some calculation yesterday, and on average reading comics, the battery only drops about 1% every 4 or 5 minutes ( and that is with wife + cell on all the time ). But i put the screen on 30% brightness, what is perfect for inside reading. For "fun" i have been doing long time testing, comparing my old HTC HD2 ( with relative new battery ), both with screen on.

A nice example:

Minute 1: 86% 74%

Minute 2: 85% 74%

Minute 3: 84% 74%

Minute 4: 84% 74%

Minute 5: 82% 73%

... and continue.

What is the HTC HD2, and what is the ZU? *lol*, o and i was actively using the ZU ( checking settings ). :)

If there is a bad thing, its the battery drain in standby. Notice a fairly large drain, Stamina mode on ( email & wechat whitelisted ) + wifi + cell on. Dropping 10%+ after a night, what i do find a lot. That means i lose 1% or more every hour on doing nothing. Maybe its the Wifi or the Cell ( not exactly great cell reception here, and noticed people complaining, that in area's of bad reception, the drain is large ). Will try tonight with Cell off...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kumeipark:
iPhone user heavily consider XZU...

Proof...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
LOL! Have you tried to power it on? :p Did it catch fire by itself or do you really want something new? :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] SpyderTracks:
Genius! That's the way to do it!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
That image is just pure inspiration to me! :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kumeipark:
Well tired of iOS so I just burnt it....

Now Rocking with RAZR HD XT925 and XZU C6802....

Now the f@#*ing Apple is gonna relaunch their outdated iPhool 4 8GB (iFool) for Rs. 22990 INR.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] dimex:
Just purchased the ZU C6833 :good::good::good::good::good:. I'm on T-Mobile so I purchased that model to have internationally capability should I need it.

Regarding credit card wallet case: I'm pretty sure current gorilla glass is plenty capable to handle this, but should I get a screen protector for the screen's inevitable constant contact with the plastic credit cards?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kumeipark:
Sony was kind enough to provide free goodies.

1. Case

2. USB portable Battery Pack
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] dimex:
You quoted my post but replied with this. I have no clue what you were getting at as they're completed unrelated. :confused:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hansip87:
Congratz! May I remind you that Xperia devices usually include a shatter proof layer on top of the scratch resistant glass. So unfortunately it won't last long. So you have to place a new protector on top of it (unless you want to void the warranty and forcefully removing the anti shatter layer first)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] dimex:
I remember reading briefly about that but didn't investigate it further. So Sony takes the Gorilla Glass (already oleophobic, scratch resistant, and fairly impact resistant) and adds a non-scratch resistant but shatterproof layer on top?

I heard about people removing that layer but again I didn't investigate it much; do you have a link to a specific thread that goes into detail?

So if the shatterproof layer doesn't last long, what do you do then if it gets scratched up?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Sony uses Dragontrail and not Gorilla Glass. Dragontrail is scratchproof like Gorilla Glass, but I think it's a little more flexible than GG.

The pre-applied protector is an anti-shatter film which reduces shattering when you drop the phone, but yeah, it's pretty annoying and it scratches fairly easy if you're not careful.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] hassanmahmood:
It's also a lot harder to remove than with the Z1 or other Xperia iterations.

It's quite a pain in the ass.

And as for typing with one hand - in portrait mode I always type with one hand - just download Swype.

I don't even have it set up for one-handed typing.

I do in landscape mode though - there's no way to type one-handed, lol.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] KeikiNYC011:
Hello so I had my Sony Xperia Z Ultra for about 30 days now and stressing the device extremely. For what I've gather as data by turning off the transitions and animation transparent features in developer setting and also kill all start up apps when booting up the device, also the notification light was disable

Bootup times are for 30 seconds to 55 seconds from 1:31-1:42

With screen brightness at 50%, with stamina on battery life for me was 5 hours and 37 minutes.

With music playing from times 9pm to 8am without touching the screen/idle battery life was at 100% and drop to 81% with headphone jack in and with house speakers it drop from 100% to 69%.

Gaming continuously battery life drop from 100% to 20% in one hour time with brightness level at 50%

Movie playback the battery life drop from 100% to 23% (watching two movies) in 4 hours and 22 minutes.

Note : brightness level was always on 50% while my 30 days usage of the device was repeated.

The battery size for this device is a bit small but It's physical size is huge. Yes I've open up the back and the battery takes of 60% of the space and believe that sony should have taken the interest in a large battery size 3500mAh because th3 battery looks like an 3500mAh.

Note to never use a pen or pencil with the phone. I have a deep scratch on my screen even thou It's protected with Sony screen protector. Now my screen looks like a cat toy with my phone. ( I don't have pet )

Does that answer your question. My score is an 8.8
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kumeipark:
My mistake