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[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
You mean this? These came with my tilted chargers.

Samsung Cables just look like shiny USB cables. I suggest you give it a test first before thinking it's OEM. Plug it into your Nexus 5 1.2A adapter and wired charge your phone for a bit. If it is real OEM (or a good cable) you will get the full speed that the stock Nexus 5 cable would charge at (~1050mA). I'm going to say that you will probably get around 500mA.

That's why in the OP I recommended changing cables. Also use a proper 2A wall adapter.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Tikerz:
Yeah, it was wrapped in a Samsung band with model number ECB-DU4AWC. I'll try them out.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Explore3:
I have been testing cables. The premium cable ($2.73 + shipping) from Monoprice is a good choice. Monoprice's other USB cables did NOT charge as quickly. I know that Monoprice does ship to the UK but am unsure about shipping charges.

http://www.monoprice.com/Product?ab...onoprice.com/Search/Index?keyword=premium+usb

I have ordered the 40 watt 5 port USB plug from Anker. This version has smart ports that are supposed to charge at max amps for both Android and Apple. Available at Amazon UK .

http://www.ianker.com/product/71AN7105-BA

Good luck!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Yeah, I mentioned the Premium Monoprice cables in the OP. They're good cables, support full speed charging.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] diablospeed:
I used my HTC one USB and wall adapter... Got approx 1a immediately. Went from 84% to full charge fairly quickly. I'll be using this exclusively at work and will eliminate the need for charging at home if these numbers don't change there. Great purchase for less than $20.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Beachbum2049:
I had the same experience, could not get it to charge for more than 30 seconds. Most times it wouldn't charge at all. Tried different adapters, even took the guts out of the casing so I could put my phone directly on the coil but nothing.

It's not even a good paperweight since it's so light...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
Yeah, when you see the guts you would think it was assembled by child labour :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Isidorosis:
Does this charger work with the 1.2A charger that comes with the nexus5 ?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
Yeah it works fine, but you should use some 2A charger if you want to get maximum out of the QI charger.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] noutoo:
Nice write up. Anyone have issues charging?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] xupthree60:
Got my titled one from the ebay site, took about 3 weeks. I like it a lot, i just wish it held the phone a little better like the new nexus charger does. I can sometimes have a hard time placeing it on the charge just because it can slide around on it.

Im using the power block and cable that came with the phone, not the one that came with the charger, and it charges pretty quick. I did try it with the supplied cable in the stock block and it was puting out about 400 to 600mA according to current widget (which i dont really trust). With the stock cable it puts out 600 to 800mA and pluged in directly to the phone the stock cable puts out 800 to just over 1000mA. Our phone is one of the fastest charging phones I've ever seen, it is a little slower with this charger but I'd say its still faster then most other phones on the market.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] xupthree60:
so I decided to do some research on my own and test out different cables and charging blocks. In the test i have the stock 1.2a n5 block, and samsung 2a block from a galaxy tab 3 7.0.

measurements are estimates while plugged directly into phone and current widget set to 1 second intervals just like bacon did.

n5 cable with n5 block - 1000 to 1100mA

samsung cable with samsung block - 700 to 800

interesting

-n5 cable with samsung block - starts at 1600 to 1700 then stabalizes around 1200

okay so the samsung cable sucks but the block is good.

cable that came with the tilted qi charger and samsung block - 400 to 500

saw that coming..

I then tried various other cables I had around the house from god know what devices and most of them were around 800 to 1000, so better then the Samsung cable but not as good as the n5 cable. I even had a super old mini usb cable with a Motorola mini to micro adapter that put out 1000ma with the Samsung block.

So knowing that the n5 cable is the best one I own I then tried it with the tilted qi. Using the samsung block I got around 700 with spikes just under 800. Basically it would stay between 650 and 730 and have some spikes close to 800 for just a second. So I then tried it with the n5 block and got exactly the same! I kept switching back and forth b/w the n5 1.2a block and the samsung 2a block and so absolutely no difference.

So in conclusion I think the n5 cable and block is about all my qi can take... and my daughter gets to keep her charging block.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Nicely done! And it really does show you just how big of a difference you can get with a decent USB cable!

And don't worry, your charge speeds are right in line with what a typical 1A output Qi charger will charge at (remember they're ~70 - 75% efficient). The current will always fluctuate as well (with a wider margin than with wired charging).
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Radixtrator:
Alright so tried my LG G Pad 1.8a block with the lg cable and got 1700 ma. with the qi charger i got 250 ma...i dont think this is normal
[Nexus 5 Accessories] xupthree60:
no your qi should get more then that.

btw my wifes lg g2 came in today so the 1.8a block is probably the same one. I just tested it on my qi got the same 650 to 800 I've been getting with all my good cables and blocks. Plugged right into the nexus I got 1695ma with the g2 block and cable and 1705ma with the samsung 2a block with the g2 cable. Tested both again with the n5 cable and they were the exact same, but its worth noting the n5 and g2 cables look different.

Which qi do you have?

Have you tried different cables and blocks?

Also make sure you have it on the right spot, if you have it too high or too low then the charge might be low because its in the wrong spot.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Radixtrator:
Will try different spot this evening. Tried it with the stock nexus block and cable and the LG one in all Variations...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] t1.8matt:
What are you using to measure what ma its charging at?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Laggalot:
can you find it for austria? ;)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Done and done! :)

http://www.ebay.at/itm/Qi-Wireless-Charger-Charge-Pad-A-for-Nexus4-5-HTC-8X-Lumia920-820-Note2-3-S3-4-/271329239542?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Chargers&hash=item3f2c7ba1f6
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Radixtrator:
im using the CurrentWidget the OP suggested. I tried a few more spots but it still wont go over 350
[Nexus 5 Accessories] silver311:
Hi, Can i get one for Malaysia?

Thank you
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Laggalot:
is there a way for amazon? i dont really like paypal ...(ebay)

Gesendet von meinem Nexus 5 mit Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Accessories] thesoupthief:
Just found this one on Aliexpress - seems to ship anywhere

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/Qi-W...TC-8X-Lumia920-820-Note2-3-S3/1589241353.html
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Shelbourne:
My charger just arrived, and for some reason my Nexus barely grips at all with the Ringke Sim case :crying:

Well it does, but it kind of slides down after some time (less then one minute)

Also I replaced the cable but still charging doesn't seem too consistent:rolleyes:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] xxphonenz:
Did you remove the plastic film covering the white circle? as I was experiencing the same issue as you then voila, it's now as sticky as a a sticky thing no matter what case I put on it!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
Try rubbing pencil eraser on the back of your case. It removes any oily residue and enhances the grip. Tried it with my case made of hard TPU, which also made the phone slide down and it worked like a charm.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] aarondandy:
just got 2 of these in the mail. took close to a month to ship but well worth the wait. they are working perfectly fine. the charge time doesnt seem to be as fast as directly connecting to a power outlet, but it is very convenient to be able to just take it off the charger when i want to use it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] t1.8matt:
Got mine today too, works fine. Even grips my Slim Armor case great. I didn't use the supplied cable though, I had already bought some premium Monroprice cables in anticipation of this charger. Just have to see after time if the phone starts sliding down off the charger.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Well I wanted to change the angle slightly because I keep one of these in my kitchen next to the stove. The angle wasn't quite as good for when you're standing up. I have it connected to a bluetooth speaker, and I like to control the music when I cook.

So for those of you having problems with it sliding off, first do the basics if you haven't. Make sure you've taken off the plastic covering over the white ring, and ensure the rubber ring is properly seated. That should really solve all of your sliding problems.

If by some slim chance it's still sliding off, you can try my little mini mod I did for the kitchen (not really a mod, but don't know what else to call it). I just took off the 2 front anti-slip stickers on the bottom, and stuck a couple of cheap eraser ends (the thin kind) from 2 broken mechanical pencils in the screw holes hahah. The erasers do the same as the anti-slip stickers, but also decrease the angle just enough that it's perfect for me to see when I'm cooking. It also changes the angle just enough that the phone stays planted no matter what, even if I'm changing music, browsing the net for ways not to destroy my meals, etc. With cases, without cases, no problem.

So maybe give that a shot if for some reason it still slides off for you.

It even looks like a face with 2 teeth now.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Radixtrator:
Im still only getting 300 ma no hell:(??
[Nexus 5 Accessories] xupthree60:
if you said your getting 1700 with that cable and block hardwired and you've tried other cables and blocks, then it has to be an issue with the charger. You could try to get the shipper to send another one saying this one is defective and its not worth sending it back to him. maybe if you sent him an email with a link to this forum and pictures of it charging so low they might do it to keep from getting a negative rating.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
I'd say that probably coil in your charger sits a bit lower than it should increasing the distance to the receiving coil in your phone and resulting in a low charging rate. The only way to be sure is a complete teardown of your charger, but take it as a last resort.

Seller should send you a new one.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Aenima462:
I got mine today, and using the stock cable and charger, I'm barely passing +500ma... Without the Qi charger, the stock cable and charger gives me +1100ma.

What's with that?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Radixtrator:
I will try contacting the seller tomorrow, will keep you updated
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Aenima462:
Right now just listening to music on Google muisc over WiFi, it is jumping between +25-250. It has been charging for say 45 min and went up 10%
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
Any case or skin on your phone?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] youR.Fate:
I just recieved mine (the white version). At first I was a bit disappointed because I had assumed it had magnets inside like the nexus orb, but it doesn't. However, after I realized i had to peel off the protective plastic on the rubber pad it holds my Nexus 5 nicely in place. I'm using a spigen ultra hybrid case.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Aenima462:
The case that Google sells.. But even without it's the same.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] puska:
You need 2A adapter to get full potential of qi charger than you will get around 700-750mA
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Aenima462:
So these things are less than 50% efficient? Crappy..
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
You should probably read up on how Qi chargers work before investing in one.

ALL Qi chargers will be slower than wired charging.

If you look at the specs of most Qi chargers they vary from:

Input: DC 5V 1.5A - DC 5V 2A

Output: DC 5V 1A

Some are rated at an even lower output than that. DC 5V 500mA, DC 5V 750mA. Stay away from these as charge times will be even slower.

All Qi chargers also rate efficiency at around 70% - 75%+. So even if you have 1A output, you will get a max current in the 700mA to < 800mA max range. Some energy is lost due to it being wireless, some due to heat generated, etc.

You will never match the stock block/cable with any Qi charger. The Nexus 5 stock block is rated at 1.2A output (wired), which is already higher than the output of ALL Qi chargers. You sacrifice some speed in charging, for the convenience of being wireless.

To maximize the potential speed of your Qi charger, use a wall adapter/good USB cable and provide the Input current that the charger requires. This one says Input DC 5V 2A, so you will want to have a 2A AC Adapter with a good USB cable that supports quick charging.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mariuzzo:
Did anyone try it with an official bumper? Does it slide off?

Btw I just ordered one from Aliexpress (because I couldn't find anyone selling it in Italy) and I am worried the case won't keep the phone in place
[Nexus 5 Accessories] DarkShadowAy:
Has anyone ordered the UK ones, if so any feedback?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] hartzan:
Thanks for the review. Just ordered the black one.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] sainthalo:
I tried adding magnets to this.

Four N52 10mm*2mm to top surface.

It wouldn't charge at all.

Hard to remove magnets which had been super glued.

USB port is delicate, snapped by accident.

Product in bin within 7 hours of delivery!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Aenima462:
Indeed, I understand that some power is lost through wireless charging. I just wasn't expecting only 500-600mA from using a 1.2A charger.

I will look for a decent 2A wall charger.. I saw a post regarding monoprice cables that worked very well, but I didn't find a decent 2A wall charger.

With the stock bumper case, the N5 is just as stable as without.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] aamber:
Help with shipping

could you help with Shipping details for India.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
You keep saying "Qi", I thought it was a brand... turns out it's just the name for wireless charger.

In the wireless charging area, is the speed good compared to the official wireless charger?

When you say use a good USB cable, does it take the one that comes with the N5? would that be good enough to supply it with full power?

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Haha, Qi is the name for a standard of wireless charger. There are a few types out there, but the Nexus 5 and most devices use the "Qi" standard. Think of it along the lines of like HDDVD and BluRay, both play high definition video, but both are different/incompatible standards. One dead of course.

A Qi charger with a 1A output will charge around 700mA to under 800mA if properly powered. That applies to all 1A output Qi chargers, including the official wireless charger (which is rated at 1A output). It doesn't matter if your charger is $10 or $60, generic or official, if it follows the Qi standard and is rated at 1A output, it will charge within that range. Some might be a tiny bit faster, some a tiny bit slower, but ultimately the difference in performance between 1A Qi chargers is negligible (maybe like 5 or so minutes in overall charging time).

There will be a noticeable difference in charging time though, if you use a Qi charger rated below 1A output. There are some out there rated at 500mA and 750mA. Those won't charge at the 700+ range, but much slower. So just keep in mind the rated output when you look to buy one.

Powering the Qi charger is another thing, some are rated at DC 5V 1.5A Input, others (like the "tilted" one) are rated at 2A input. You need to make sure you have a power adapter that can supply equal (or above) to fully power the charger. They will work to an extent with a lower rated adapter, but may not charge as fast, or as consistently. You could plug it into a USB port on your computer, it will work, but it will be slow, so try to find a way to plug it into a wall outlet.

As for the cable, yes, the Nexus 5 stock micro USB cable is a good cable! I use it with one of my Qi chargers. If you use that cable to connect your power adapter to the Qi charger, you won't have any problems.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
Check Samsung Galaxy S4 charger (I believe both European an American are marked as ETA-U90EWE, UK is ETA-U90UWE) . It has 2A output and is supplied with micro usb cable which is equal to the one that you get with Nexus 5 (tested it with current widget).

Bought mine for few bucks on ebay.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
Thanks, buying this now :)

How long does a full charge take with it, how many hours? And how does that compare to wired charging?

Is it safe to leave the phone on the wireless charger without messing up the battery long term?

It's probably better for the battery long term anyway compared to wired charging right? Because it charges slower?

Thanks again :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] xupthree60:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=50628902
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Mind posting the seller you used? It's tough to find good 2A adapters out there. There are a ton of fakes, or ones that don't work properly. If the ones you received are good 2A adapters, and include a good cable, it would help a lot of people out!

I never charge from 0% to 100% as I never let my phone get that low, so I can't tell you dead to full. But I've done some tests (with the 5 different types of Qi chargers I've got) charging from 14% to 100%, and it takes around 2 hours and 30 minutes, give or take a few minutes between them.

Compared to wired charging (which is usually in the 950mA - 1100mA range, if using the stock charger), the same 14% - 100% takes around 2 hours, give or take a few minutes as well. So Qi charging (with a 1A charger) will take about half an hour longer. Keep in mind the stock charger is 1.2A and it's wired, so it will always be faster.

Yes it's safe. When it reaches 100% it trickle charges, just like the wired charger. The phone will draw power from it only when it needs to, to stay at 100%.

Long term is debatable really. These batteries only have a certain amount of charge cycles in them before they start to degrade, that's regardless of if you charge it wired or wireless. I would say there wouldn't be much of a difference (personal guess anyway). Sure you charge a bit slower wireless, but it also generates a bit more heat charging that way. Charging wired is faster, but it's taking in a higher current, so maybe that's worse. I don't know. But a couple of years of regular charging, wired or wireless, and the battery is crapped out anyway. So, I just go for convenience. I like just plopping down my phone and it does its thing. I'd say, if anything, you'll just be saving your USB port haha.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
After a couple years and the warranty is out, you could just rip open the back and put a fresh battery in right? is that possible with our N5?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Sure, the battery is easy to get to in this phone. It's only held in by some double sided tape.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
Sure will as soon as I get mine and make sure it's not fake. The one I tested belongs to my coworker who got it with his S4.

However I received Samsung micro usb cables which I bought here http://www.ebay.com/itm/321231245646 and can vouch for them as they are the real thing and allow high amperage charging, so the chargers sold by this seller would probably be original as well (but they cost double of what I paid for mine).

Cables are a bit pricey, but if you have to pay around $30 shipping from Amazon or Monoprice like me, it's definitely the cheapest option for very good micro usb cable.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
Is it possible to buy an official replacement battery anywhere? I'd like to get one so I have it a couple years down the line because they might be hard to get a hold of then.

Will it 'last' until then just being kept in storage or will it deteriorate without being used also? Presumably not as much as one being used/charged for 2 years though.

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Does this mean since the official charger is 1.5amp as the guy above just said, that you can buy a better third party one?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Did you mean the Official Wall Charger is 1.5A? The official N5 Wall Charger is 1.2A. The Official Nexus Qi Charger is 1.8A from the wall and about 1A on output. The N5 itself will limit current to 1.6A no matter what charger you use. So using a charger over 2A is just useless if you are going direct cable. BUT getting a GOOD 2A Charger to use with Qi Chargers is good since the input needed is usually 1.8-2A to run the Qi.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
I see, thanks for the info!

Do we have a consensus on a good charger anywhere?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bblzd:
There is no official replacement. Probably never will be, just cheap knock offs.

Batteries do degrade sitting on the shelf though it is minimized by storing them at 60% charge.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
www.etradesupply.com/lg-nexus-5-battery.html

Looks the same as the one from this teardown; http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+5+Teardown/19016
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bblzd:
That does look real. They have N4 replacements too apparently.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] xupthree60:
I don't know if I just got a bad one or not, but the official Samsung cable that came with my galaxy tab 3 is horrible! It puts out less than half the power a good cable can with the 2a charger that came with it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
That depends which Samsung cable you've got. Some of them are crap. Just like some LG, Motorola and HTC cables are. The ones I bought that allow high amperage are ECB-DU4AWE (3ft cable) and ECB-DU4EWE (5ft cable).
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
So you think it's worth buying one of those now and holding on to it until my battery starts degrading in a year or so? Or will better internal ones be out by then?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bblzd:
Better to wait until it's needed, I'd say. Maybe someone will test it out by then.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Joel5:
Can anyone who owns one of these tell me if they work through a case?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Znamir81:
Like most of qi chargers it depends on the case.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
Anyone got a spigen neo hybrid and does it charge through it with this?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] warri:
I bought Two of these Qi Chargers (under the assumption they had magnets in them) and a couple things to note:

-Placement for perfect phone charging is not super easy as drop and charge, i often find myself moving the phone slightly in one direction, or re-adjusting it on the charger.

-Causes a Lot of Noise on USB when using with a Computer...Don't Do it.

This was causing my Astrogaming A40 to Have Static, and Have Audio Dropout, most likely due to the coil's B field.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Bubble-be:
Yes, I noticed the same thing.

I have worked out a system : I use my pinky as a guide for the bottom part and for the rest check if it's not too much to the left or the right. The confirmation sound or leds do the rest.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
care to post some pics of the best placement? I am kind of saddened that you can't just place it down and forget about it, that was the whole reason I bought it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mancterrier:
Ok so been using this on and off for a few weeks now so thought id give my updated opinion. Ive pretty much stopped using it and have gone back to the wired charger. The whole point is its meant to make it easier to charge and im fed up of it falling off the thing or not charging. I still like the idea of the wireless charger though so will be looking for a flat one so I dont have this problem. Any suggestions will be most welcome..