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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Yeah me too . This is on a phone that hasn't been used much at all . Used stock battery , ART enabled running 02-17 Commotio running the extreme kernel . I wanted to compare extreme to the stock kernel and expected it to lose . No data was on , just the cell signal . It was about double of the stock kernel .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
What's the best practice for a smooth ART experience? Should I do a full wipe (and manual /system format), clean flash, enable ART right off the bat, then install apps? I converted to ART earlier today and it was not very pretty...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
That's the way I do it the first time and it works good for me . Full wipe , cache , dalvik and system format . Flash Rom and I can only vouch for DHO gapps

. Then I boot and skip wifi and everything else . Then enable art . ART works great for me and no fc's on nuttin . Then you should be able to flash new builds dirty
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Cool, I'll give it a shot. I can assume that the gapps that are baked into Commotio are the DHO gapps you speak of?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
No , I mean the DHO gapps package in the op , there's links there to DHO art compatible gapps , regular and minimal . I use the regular . I use those with Vanir and Commotio . Bear in mind Commotio comes from the same source as Vanir , its just DHO's variant and sometimes can have new stuff that he's testing before it gets into Vanir , be it good or bad .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Do you flash those gapps over the ones that come built into the Commotio ROM?

From the Commotio OP:

Gapps

- Included. See my Gapps post for further details.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Yes I do . Just download from the DHO gapps link in the first Vanir post . After your all clean flash the rom of your choice and then flash those gapps .

These http://www.emccann.net/dho/5-Gapps/44Current-DHO-GAPPs.zip
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Saw you mentioned you weren't experiencing the 'out call, no hear' bug. Are you using commotio?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Just curious, what are the minimum requirements of a PC to build a ROM? Say...for one one device?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
Well depends who you ask. If you ask google (I don't mean to google it, I mean the android team) it's something like 16 gigs of ram/swap and at least an quadcore processor.,(preferably 12 somehow)

If you ask Cyanogenmod it's more of a dual core with 4 gigs of ram or 2 gigs of ram with swap

If you ask me and s few guys I know, we'd say it doesn't matter much. I use a single core processor with 1 gig of ram (And a bunch of swap) Some other fella uses a laptop with half a gig of ram.

I never got a good straight answer really. The most important things are that the processor is 64 bit, you're running linux (with all the stuff installed) and you have at least 50 gigs of disk space. Preferably more. I almost ran out ^ ^

and obviously the better the faster it'll build. Typically it takes 30 minutes to 4 hours to build your first build. It took my computer 12 hours :D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
I know enough about PC's to be dangerous, but what do you mean by xxxGb ram/swap? What is swap?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
it's a linux thing. Swap is a designated partition or file used sort of as extra ram. It's drastically slower than ram of course. But it'll save you from out of memory troubles. I think it's called pages or something in windows.Page swapping? somethin
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Ahh...OK, like virtual ram. I was just wondering, cause I was given an old PC yesterday and was thinking about putting red hat or Ubuntu on it and seeing what I could do.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ps3hacker3:
If only I had the knowledge to dual boot windows 8.1 and Linux, and had the knowledge to compile roms...I may have been some major help for you guys on my desktop (8 GB ram, amd fx 8350... 8 core 4.0 ghz)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Well you can actually dual boot those plus about another 100 operating systems with a program called Bootit . I've been using it for years and its never gave me the first issue . You can run DOS , any windows , Linux and anything else you want to but will have a learning curve . http://www.terabyteunlimited.com/bootit-next-generation.htm
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
Your age is showing ? red hat is now Fedora. If you wanna do android stuff use Ubuntu, preferably Linux mint. You can use Fedora or open suse (my favorite flavor) but they'd be tricky. I don't like Ubuntu so I use Debian. What kind of specs does it have?

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Installing Ubuntu is very easy these days. Just burn a DVD and the rest is cake.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ps3hacker3:
This is true but something with uefi bios is just making it a severe pain for me to do
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Lol:) yes it is! Shows how long its been since I've messed with that stuff. But I have a 2.8 GHz dual core pentium d(I think, its a d), 2gb ram, 200 GB HDD. But I have externals if they can be used for a build environment.

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Also, on a sad note...I may be losing my baby(e4gt) today. Best buy doesn't carry it for boost anymore, and my warranty ran out a couple days ago. So I'm going to see if they'll let me swap it for a new phone. Their warranty plan is the only way I've been able to upgrade/keep/afford a nicer phone, so I have to keep it going. So...I guess I'll find out if it stays or goes in a couple hours.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
That's too bad. Hopefully you get a good trade. Watch out with GNOME 3 and unity if going to Ubuntu. A lot of people hate them.

Anyways it's gonna take me longer. I cannot make a zip. Unjustified Dev is helping me so please be patient?.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Good News on Mount Issue

Here's some good news concerning the sdcard0 mount issue . I've just confirmed that both the Vanir 01-18-2014 and the Commotio 01-17-2014 builds don't have this issue any longer and no need to inject twrp . In fact I took the check out of the box for injecting twrp then confirmed both builds mounted properly with the included CWM so TWRP isn't on my phone anymore .. I'm not sure if the last couple of builds were fixed as well because I haven't flashed in the last couple of days but I can confirm the two I mentioned . Hopefully all future builds will be fine as well . Refer to the OP for complete details ..

I can't guarantee you that issue won't return or even that your partition won't disappear at some point so I would advise keeping a nandroid or flashable zips handy on your external sdcard just in case and until its proven dependable . Apparently Vanir and DHO figured it out so thanks to whoever did ....

Seems as if DHO has resolved most of the original issues listed in the OP but we still need connectivity solved .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
Delays and delays

Hey guys whats up? Just letting ya'll know i'm starting over -_-

I'm hopeful I'll get this before DHO starts to use up more of his time

ehnyweis I'm just letting you guys know I'm still working on it ^ ^
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
DHO has been picking some fixes and commits on the telephony issue . He says he found some major issues in last nights build and feels he's getting close to having us going so cross your fingers . He's also corrected numerous issues that my logs were showing and i can see the differences in how smooth it installs and runs .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Have you guys discussed the signal issue with dastin? Sounds kinda like what was going on when he first released cm11
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Yes your exactly right but not yet and might not have to . That's where DHO is pluckin from I do believe . He's on it and I think within a few days we'll be good . I did explain to him about Dastin and gave him links and so he's pulling and incorporating but its gonna take a little more logging and building . .Have you tried either or both of the ROMS yet just to look em over ?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
DHO he's a real beast that guy ^ ^

I watch him and the commits he does. He's good. He has a lot on his plate and not enough gratitude. That's why I'm gonna hafta donate to the guy. So devoted. Anyways, I'm gaining confidence in what I'm doing. And I think I'll be able to finally make a zip. Not that it's too difficult, It's just a lot of data that's being moved around everywhere... Again be patient. This rom is very metal
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
No, not yet. Just thumbed through the original thread for each rom. Right about the time I was going to flash, I realized my best buy warranty was about to run out, so I stopped and ran to bb. And found out it expired 7 days earlier, good news is that I get to keep my e4gt. S3 was sounding nice though...((I'm on boost, so no upgrades for me, I was relying on BB's warranty since I paid 300+ tax for this phone). Plus when I tried to turn my PC on the next day, it just beeped about 10 times, and nothing showed on the display. Sooo, I haven't tried flashing anything since then. BTW, does what I described about my PC sound like something you know about? I've never had anything like that happen before. Anyway, I'll quit rambling...:D
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Yeah beeps have been a part of pc's since I can remember in the 80's . A certain amount of beeps and possible frequency means a certain message to you . If you know what motherboard you have or if its a branded pc you google it and then count the beeps and it will tell you whether its a memory stick , graphics card etc . I've had that quite a few times over the years but t was always something needed re-seating . Count the beeps and you can find out . Make sure the fan is running on your processor as well .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Thanks man. I've had one beep before, but it booted. Thanks for the tip tho...I didn't know the beep count told the problem.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Yes I am, the 2-24 nightly. Even dirty flashed...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
OK cool. Thanks:D. That bug is driving me NUTS! Anyway...thanks for he feedback. I guess you had luck with that prl update?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Not yet. Didn't want to mess with going back and forth between TW and Commotio while I'm at work. I'll take a crack at it when I get home.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Ok. Just let us know when you do.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Is it normal to have the systemui fc loop on the first boot after converting to ART? Also, what do you mean by "skip the wifi part"? I'm forced to go through the gapps setup before doing anything.

Will do :good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
I don't usually have an fc but a reboot will probably take care of that . You can't just skip joining wifi and get on to the home screen ? There's no setting up the gapps with wifi that I know of . I simply boot and skip everything until I'm at the home screen . The I go to settings and enable art .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
Like this?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Black-Hybri.../310754465904?ssPageName=ADME:L:eek:U:US:1120
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
I have that exact case and never use it cause my batteries to big! Im going to try this!! :D thanks! Unless that's not what I think

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
Its exactly what you think it is. Pure redneck dremel to the back of the clam shell.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
That's the best way to word it.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
So far running smoothly with ART enabled. Only a couple of totally random Google Play Store fc's so far. Haven't had a chance to compare battery life yet, but I think I'm noticing a difference on that front. Two apps I used to use aren't ART compatible (Amazon being one of them, oddly :eek:), but it's nothing game-changing.

Thanks for the help setting that up :good:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Outgoing all bug popped up again. Any chance a logcat or something while it happens might help pin it down?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
Ya monsta needs logs
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
I'm sure that would help. But, you can look through the log after you make it to see if it caught any errors. You are looking for lines that begin with E/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Gil81:
Errors can be caught in other headings other than E...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
I know...just giving somewhere to start.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
VOIP appears to work flawless so far sending and receiving. I didn't try a ton of calls though. It sat for 5 days in airplain mode, I'll let it sit 5 more on wifi with SIP receive calls on.

Even as it stands, this phone on this ROM would make a killer VOIP phone for business.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperGoober:
Nice but wifi will drain it faster . I get great battery life too and I make a lot of voip calls and agree with you .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
Hum, VOIP calls don't wake the display and show to answer when in airplane mode with wifi manually turned on. It does trigger that the calls are coming in as they show in the notification bar immediately, and ring when screen is on and unlocked. Is there a way to disable the non-wifi radios to save some battery?

I'll try turning on/off the no-interrupt feature too tomorrow.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Gil81:
You can disable the data...but that's as far as it goes...the signal radio has to be on for WiFi. At least as far as I know.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
What are you using for VOIP?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
Right now I have the

Simon Google voice gateway setup, but hopefully soon I'll have a corporate Cisco system to try it on.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperGoober:
I actually just use groove ip lite or gtalk .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
I've tried those two, but it doesn't help me in my quest to out do the crap wireless Cisco phones they try to sell us.

Had the reps in my office, "so what can you offer us that have voice and messaging, at a reasonable price?" "Um, they can keypad text."

Unacceptable. Embrace Android or die like the rest.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
You ain't kiddin.

But test was for nothing as of this morning, I called my VOIP number and it didn't ring. I launched the phone app and it must have re-registered and started working again. Maybe I'll test again some other day. How is VOIP not entirely rock solid in Android now. I guess I should really test a Nexus instead.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperGoober:
Maybe ya'll should check out Republic Wireless . Hybrid phones designed to latch onto wifi . Super cheap . but a great idea and buisness model .

https://republicwireless.com/
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
I do like their idea, but I'm not to keen on their custom modded ROMs. I would rather a stock device that works on any VOIP server. Republic's plans are great, but Ting still beats them in my opinion for my use. I think that for a business, a mix between the two carriers would be excellent. High voice callers on Republic and low voice data only people (like me) on Ting.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sik-1:
Would it b too much to SK if you can implement zram into the kernel plz, too many services to run and the phone doesnt handle it well when it comes to multitasking
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Do you know of a github for any device that uses the smdk4412 that implements zram ? If so please post it here . Anyone ? Thanks
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] AaronCompNetSys:
I believe ASOP has zram built in now, and this ROM is built off that. See this this post and see if it makes sense: http://xdaforums.com/nexus-s/develo...4-4-2-mod-nexus-s-build-t2410844/post47723265

Personally, I've had terrible luck in the past with ZRam. Lots of apps don't like being swapped there. Have not tried it in KitKat though.

Stripping out services that are not as important worked better for me. Its not like you have only 340MB RAM like the Fascinate people :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sik-1:
I am aware of how to get zram working, but if the kernel isn't built with being able to swap then zram won't work correctly, if the kernel did have zram on then there would b the option to use it in trickstermod, but theres no such service, so that's y I asked....
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
I'd recommend you not use zram. It's not very useful on this device. It uses more battery and can actually make your phone lag. Your better off messing with the minfree settings that comes with the control center. You'll get much better results.

The reason why I don't recommend it is because zram is just compressed ram, and it's main goal is (was) to limit the amount of swap space low end devices use. That's really nothing that we need here, since this device has no swap. Furthermore kit Kat is more memory efficient than any android version ever. (I've installed it on really low end phones and they fly)

As to whether or not it is or will be implemented I think no.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
You may be right . Blasphemy kernal included it and it seems quite a few hi performance kernals for the S4 , S3 , Note etc are including it

and describing it as " 256MB Zram with zcache

Zram with SNAPPY compression as first swap priority (Google SNAPPY-v3 in v2.3) (LZ4 since v2.3.1)

(LOW CPU LOAD FOR COMPRESSION of ram memory blocks with little loss of compression ratio compared to default LZO compression) "
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
[HAPPY_RANT]I didn't know they changed the compression method ^ ^ that's awesome! I haven't been into the android scene lately though. Thank you Google :D and thanks MonstaDriva :0. I'm going to go check it out and hopefully it's stable enough to not crash my computer ~^ ^. This seems to have the capabilities to make zram much more useful.

Since it's available on those devices you can make a sure bet this device will eventually receive it.

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[ANDROID]

This actually proves me wrong sir. And I haven't been this wrong in a while ?. I think Zram will eventually be implemented (if not already) into the kernel we use. It may not be enabled though...

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Sik-1:
I hear yuh but the same way how you also pointed me to tunig the minfree is the same way I look at zram, all it needs is some fine tuning and I think I have a setup that works really great as I use it on all my other devices.....o and nothing ever slowed down nor did my battery drain any faster n I also have a killer setup on the minfree for now.....

Everyone says tune it but it doesn't help when you have a lot of services in the background you know, everyone says lose the services and greenify this and that blah blah, but greenify is another service also lol,

Thanks for the feedback tho, I guess hope is lost then......o and one more thing, since we have the power to choose and making something like this (kernel) why not include most and have the users decide to use or not, jus saying lol

If I could make my own I would have done so long time trust and believe
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] MonstaDriva:
Very interesting stuff , thanks for the link . Maybe we can dig into this and find out .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
I hate to sound like a nagger again but this is still very much in nighties mode and still needs to be ironed out before the team adds those things. I'm pretty sure we're heading to a good place though.

And it's not TOO difficult to compile your own kernel. I really advice you to compile other things first however.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Protip: don't drink and flash.

Bad.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
Lol! +1 to that! :p
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Anyone having data issues with the latest few nightlies? I'm not sure if it's an ART issue or not...I tried flashing modems, but I'm getting status 6 every time.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kevin cracolici:
My understanding is that all the latest nightly and other builds for KitKat have data issues due to a change in the kernel that broke it, Dastin and others I assume are working in getting it fixed but till then no data. The reason you are getting status 6 when trying to flash a modem is due to the latest recovery, if download a new Rom, it has the 6.0.7 recovery, you need to temporarily flash back to 6.0.5, to make the change you want, I use the blasphemy kernel as it had that recovery. Hope this helps
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Ryuk666:
I haven't had data problems with the last few. It's worked perfectly fine. But I can't test that anymore. Went to Verizon and got a G2 lol.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
It does, thanks. If it's a kernel issue, could flashing another kernel solve the issue?

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kevin cracolici:
Tried all that, no good, not sure exactly what it is but way above my head. I'll leave that to the pros
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kthomson205:
No, cm is using the smdk4412(I think) kernel, and it has broken telephony on this device. Until someone gets a jb modem working, or kernel issues ironed out on this device, no data across all the new kk ROMs.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
may be a dumb question

but why the work on a JB modem? i know the better signal and all that, but why not just get an ICS one that works? or is the ICS modems going to the way side now.

just seams kinda odd that we have been using ICS on so many builds that now we are stuck waiting for a JB one.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
That...sucks :(
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
If I wanted to get back to working data without losing my setup, could I possibly dirty flash a nightly that has working data over the March 9th nightly? Can you dirty flash backwards? :confused:
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Kevin cracolici:
Not sure, worth a try, should be able to, but make a back up. I'm running the 2/28 mokee because it's the last one that had data
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] HighxVoltage:
I'd play it safe by backing up apps and clean flashing to a previous nightly. There's no guarantee of things going smoothly dirty flashing a previous build.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] SuperGoober:
I'm running March 02 of Vanir and it has data . dirty flashed fine for me .
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Inane_Asylum:
Are there any known workarounds or anything for this outgoing call bug? It's getting frustrating...I was yelling at the AT&T voice menu for at least a minute before I realized it couldn't hear me -_-
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Surj138:
Can anybody pinpoint when the outgoing call bug started, or has it always been an issue? I've read through the thread and it seems to have been occurring since the early February builds. I'm on the 12/7 villuminati build and would like to update to 4.4.2, but would like to avoid that bug if possible. I'm aware of the lack of data in the March builds, so I'd like to avoid those as well.

Any input appreciated... Thanks!

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
My phone isn't activated and aren't really sure when the bug started. However I'm thinking that if you just avoid the builds with the mount issue you can go as far as you want. It's true they're seems to be a lack of milestone builds to hold unto. I think I'll talk to them about it.

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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] blackmeth:
I almost always had it.. Been good the last week or so..Till last night started acting up again.