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[LG Optimus 4X HD] killwaz:
am i the only one having wifi not turning on with the latest version ?

EDIT: YUP i had to downgrade to 062414
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
no problem with wifi on 25/06 nightly for me.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] killwaz:
i think its related to something else also my sd card wont work not even on recovery but it works on other phones however other sd cards work on my phone :/ i cant understand whats wrong here

Edit: i noticed WIFI doesn't work when the sd card is inserted :/ WTH is going on here , i haven't seen anything like that before.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Adam77Root:
WiFi is an SDIO device on p880, i.e. it's controlled through and SD card interface. It can actually happen that an inserted card conflicts with it, but I too haven't seen something like this before. Post a dmesg so we can see what's happening.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
when upgrading vanir from 4.4.2 to 4.4.3 or 4.4.4 I get these problems :

-random system ui restart (not fcs,just restart)

-wake lags when pressing power button,sometimes it doesn't wake at all

-CRT animation doesn't turn off
[LG Optimus 4X HD] killwaz:
i am not sure what u mean about dmesg cuz it just doesnt read the card i keep taking it out and putting it in and nothing however sometimes it did read it but when i connect my phone as media storage the sdcard shows nothing inside it. its really confusing cuz other sd cards work and this one worked on other phones if there any steps i can take to pin down the problem please tell me .
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SpyKnife:
Is vanir getting all the commits that official cyanogenmod is getting?

Because I think I don't see every single Demetris's commit in vanir rom that cm is getting
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
If you have some questions,I'm running the latest nightly ;)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
Saw this commit in the changelog of the version of 07012014:

e19d401 : F2FS: Flash-Friendly File System Support for OptimusX4HD <Demetris> 2 days ago

Does that mean it is already F2FS and we have to format to update and

flash a compatible recovery?

Or is this just an early stage of compatibility for F2FS?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
Do'n know,flashed 03/07/2014 nightly as I normally do,how can I check if f2fs is 'enabled' ?

edit: /data amd /system are in ext4 format
[LG Optimus 4X HD] abhi08638:
Im using that nightly and can assure you its using ext4. Im pretty sure the devs want to keep f2fs on unofficial cm until the testing phase is over

don't forget to hit thanks!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
I'm in 3-7-14 nightly and today my netwowk signal is really weak,I also lost signal several times.

Everything is working well for other people ?

Inviato dal mio HTC Desire con Tapatalk 2
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
Same here. Signal loss every hour at least. Never had that before. I did a clean flash with data restore.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
maybe I'ts a problem of the 3-3-14 nightly,I'll wait next release or I'll get back to 1-7-14 version.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
I skipped 07-01-2014 and I guess you're right. Never had any problems ever before with network. Hope they fix it soon. Will provide a logcat when I get home in the evening.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
try to se if this happens when battery is low,this appened to me very few time some weeks ago but just when battery was under 15%.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
Happened to me on full charge with charger plugged in. Weird thing we got here. Guess we'll have to wait for a fix, after we provide a logcat.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Umbardacil:
Hi. I'm facing some problems with camera. When I'm trying to shoot a video app closes after few seconds. Is it common issue? Is there any better camera app to flash over?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
For me video recording works just fine with the newest PA 0-Day Gapps.

Recorded half a minute just now for testing.

Try and flash the Gapps over your build.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Umbardacil:
Could you post a link to proper gaols?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
There you go: Click here :)

I chose the Stock package but you can choose whatever fits you best.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
flashed 4/7 nightly and I'm still have power button bug and system ui random reboot (less than before).

The problems came out since the first 4.4.3 release.

Flashed iodak v9.95 hoping that it will solve power button bug,however the phone is faster,even with multicore power saving e cpuquiet set to balanced.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
So I managed to get a logcat of the signal drop

(as well as the hardware button lights on even when disabled).

Hope it helps :)

Link to my Dropbox as Pastebin has a max filesize

It probably happened more towards the end of the log,

but I'm not entirely sure.

EDIT: [MENTION=4716493]laufersteppenwolf[/MENTION]

It definitely is caused by iodak v10 beta

I flashed newest nightly and on top of that iodak -> signal losses

Reflashed nightly (stock kernel) -> no signal losses

EDIT 2: Ok too early ...

After 3 hours I bot one signal loss.

Hope this helps as well.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] killwaz:
regarding waking up the display , i think it got fixed with 4/7 BUT i have trickster MOD app installed and i noticed the max core is always 1 even when i change it to 4 it changes back to 1 :/ , with iodak that fixes the problem and the phone is faster however the phone heats up insanely especially when prossessing photos like instergam and facebook , tumbler etc. and i still have problems with waking up screen and sometimes it leads to ui reboot.

i have force GPU to process 2D render ON

things got smoother with it but still heats up.

yet to try 8/7/2014 nightly
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
i'm back to 8-5-14 nightly and everything works,I'll try new nightly nex time..
[LG Optimus 4X HD] killwaz:
8/7 seems to have fixed the single core issue now all four are running . it does heat up like iodak i guess quad core is hot xD

The navbar is spreeded wider than before i am not sure if its editable . the phone is fast so far.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SpyKnife:
Can someone please check what's going on with home button? Sometimes it needs a double press to work and it is really annoying!! Overall very good Rom
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
sometimes is caused by gapps
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Markos:
What is the most stable version at this moment? Is it still the one mentioned in the start post?

Current Stable Version: 011214
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Markos:
Is this the most recent stable build? I can't download it from here http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/p880/ but I found a torrent with this file in it (http://www.demonoid.ph/files/detail...2014150196&show_files=1&page=1&ref=1402687177 with file vanir_p880_4.4.2.050814.zip)

edit: hmm but no seeders...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
http://www.emccann.net/dho/2-Commotio/B65/B65-Commotio-p880.zip

install this rom,is a slightly modified vanir rom
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
Or... B67 commotio p880

http://www.emccann.net/dho/2-Commotio/B67/

Best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
I'm running that version but b65 seems to be more stable
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Umbardacil:
Hi.

It seems that after last update I can't use any mp3 as ringtone, alarm sound nor notification sound. Even when I put files manually in proper folder. Only "system"ogg files are there. Even when I convert my mp3 to ogg it still doesn't work.

Where is any "stock" file manager or music player here?! In standard way I put mp3 sound as ringtone by choosing it under stock music player... How about you guys?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tool_king:
Just use "Set as Ringtone" wihtin ES File Explorer.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Umbardacil:
I do not want to change my ringtone. I need to change my alarm sound. Can this be done from ES file explorer too?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
Usually after you set something as ringtone it will appear

in the systems default selections for alarms and/or ringtones.

Just set the desired alarm as ringtone and then

search for it in the alarm settings.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tool_king:
Yes, you can choose between ringtone, notification and alarm.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Tcm9669:
Anybody has an issue where smometimes the notification bar goes completely blank? No date, no battery, no icons on it... just blank?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Markos:
Thnx, I am going to try B65 tomorrow. Which version of Gapps should I use? I think one of these, but wich one?

http://www.emccann.net/dho/5-Gapps/Kitkat/44Current-DHO-GAPPs.zip

http://www.emccann.net/dho/5-Gapps/Kitkat/443Current-DHO-GAPPs.zip

http://www.emccann.net/dho/5-Gapps/Kitkat/B13-kk44-DHO-GAPPs.zip

Or should I use one of these?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942

(I don't know what version B65 exactly is)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
B65 is based on android 4.4.2 so I think that you can use any 4.4.2 gapps package
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Kewyang:
Hi all. Im still using 8 May build, and I wish to update it. May I know which build is the most stable by far? Thank you so much.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
I suggest you to keep that release,with android 4.4.3 or higher and the new theme manager,The rom has some little problems (double press power button lag and system ui reboot randomly) at least for me.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
I use commotio b68 with stock kernel. It works perfectly. [emoji6]

EDIT : With iodak v10 kernel runs even better.

Best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
no syatem ui or power button problems ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
No! I have no problems at all. As of today I have the B69 version installed. Does butter soft.

Great work! Many thanks! [emoji106][emoji122][emoji111]

Best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
tried b68 but sometimes seems laggy,i'll download b69 and see what happens.

what kernel do you use ? did you tweaked the rom in some ways ?(build.prop,scrips,zip mods,apps etc)

where did you find b69 ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
Of B68 and B69 version not all update work properly.Some update does not work: bootloop.

B69 13/08/2014.works perfectly .I'm using iodak v10.kernel.Also, I use AutoKiller Memory Optimizer ,Greenify and Android L design(theme)

That's all.

B69: http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/

http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/08-13-2014_nightly_444/

Choose B69-Commotio-P880.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Umbardacil:
My notifications bar is pernamently blank - since last update (latest). Dunno why - anyone else has got our issue noticed?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
try to set the default theme
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
It is better day by day. COMMOTIO!!!

B70-Commotio-p880 : http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/08-24-2014_nightly_444/

:good::good::good:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tiflao:
What is COMMOTIO ?

:S
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
it's a modded version of vanir
[LG Optimus 4X HD] jpyumul:
Can I dirty flash this version on top of the regular vanir ROM?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
[MENTION=4633252]jpyumul[/MENTION]

Hmm... i have not tried yet. Make a backup and flashed over it.

I'm very curious. Please give us your feedback.

Thanks!

Best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] jpyumul:
Ok thanks. I might as well try. I do backup always anyway.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
I think you can but I didn't try personally
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SpyKnife:
Anyone getting phone restart after trying to open youtube app on vanir 24.08 nightly?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Malitai:
Immersive mode doesn't work for me on the latest nightly if I don't activate the navigation bar... Resetting the display density or clearing the cache doesn't seem to yield any results... If I set it to hide the navigation bar along with the status bar it hides both perfectly - not a valid solution for the p880.

I'm not sure where to start looking for the problem.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Bogeyof:
In this thread are 2 possibilities for downloads posted, for "normal" nightlies in OP and for BXX-nightlies in the last posts. What are the differences, which version is more recommended? I would like to find a version with less bugs, performance and many extras wouldnt be such important...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
I know two versions: Vanir and Commotio. All both are of the Team Vanir. There are little differences between the two versions. For me Commotio the better. Stable, liquid and fast. However, it is a matter of taste.

Best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Jansxel:
Where i can download commotio?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir-mirror/4-nighties/08-30-2014_nightly_444/

Best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moss20:
I suggest you this version :

http://www.emccann.net/dho/2-Commotio/B69/B69-Commotio-p880.zip

Be awere that it seems that drains too much the battery :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Umbardacil:
Lost WiFi connection possibility

It often happens, that I can't switch my WiFi on, and scan for available networks. Sometimes mobile network is unreachable too. I'm on 4.4.4.082814. Only hard restart helps. Did anyone notice that?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Abnyone tryed any of recent nightlyes?

Sent from my Optimus 4X HD
[LG Optimus 4X HD] imohtep:
Last update has Mic problem

Hi from Venezuela, thanks for this amazing rom i'm testing on 3 phones, but in this last update vanir_p880_4.4.4.100214 and vanir_p880_4.4.4.100114 the mic doen't work on calls i have to roll back for september versión :crying: any idea?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
It is known problem with CM based roms but now it is fixed.

Sent from my Optimus 4X HD
[LG Optimus 4X HD] imohtep:
Ok, then i must not update my phone with the last vanir updates? how i know when this bug is fix it? :confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
It should be fixed now also you should keep an eye on CM11 official thread.

Sent from my Optimus 4X HD
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Tested latest build and except cpu clock bug i noticed that i have to manually set up APN or my network data wont work.

Sent from my Optimus 4X HD
[LG Optimus 4X HD] HDSteff:
I can confirm the APN bug.

In Additional:

I'm with the 6th Okt. version and have the same issue like I've with the LS 3.2 ROM.

GSM drops often without any reason. In that cases I've to put in the PIN, that the network will connect again.

Do anyone has the experiences with this or other ROMs?

BTW: The mic works fine with this version!

Best,

Steff
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Just took a look and 39% without signal.....this cant be trye.Will test again and more too see.

Sent from my Optimus 4X HD
[LG Optimus 4X HD] haunterx:
Since i updated to the latest nightly im facing a huge problem,every so often after a reboot i get that the phone wont start again and that the internal storage is gone,even recovery cant access it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] MatVekk:
APN bug in 100614 rom.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] sahakar:
Thanks Omario. I will try out iodak.

Also can anybody confirm if the screen time is considerably lower than the Vanir 4.3 before the battery dies. Hoping the iodak switch increases screen time.

Cheers
[LG Optimus 4X HD] shadowcore:
Does 4.4 vanir have the option of choosing black-darker color menus?

4.3 used to have it I I liked the dark-black feel to the UI
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gerciolisz:
yes it has
[LG Optimus 4X HD] animus7:
Is the ROM from laufersteppenwolf stable or from the official website site?

Sorry for my bad english
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
Stupid question but where is it? I got dark menu from beginning and I would like to test the brighter variant.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] black@pirate:
In the theme section, chose vanir inverted. It is same as 4.3, not sure why you can't find.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gerciolisz:
as in post before mine:)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] sebastjanp:
LOST ROOT

Did anybody lost root when flashing this ROM?

There is no superuser app and after i installed it from play store it cant upgrade since there is no root. Also TB isnt working...

Any ideas?

Edit: Sry I found it in the settings :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] laufersteppenwolf:
The version I uploaded here was to make a properly working version public, until my changes got merged into the official repos ;)

So all official vanir builds are using our p880-dev sources now, which means you better use the official builds. And both should be stable (at least regarding our device specific files, it can always happen that the vanir team is making a derp that causes problems, but that can happen to everybody, no matter how skilled you are ;) )
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Omario-242:
Did anybody else notice that the "clear all recent" button in the app switch screen got gigantic compared to earlier releases?

Or is it just me and gravity box is derping around :P
[LG Optimus 4X HD] House.m.d:
I m on vanir 4.3 stable with Iodak 9.5. Now i made update with Vanir Updater to 4.4 18012014. now i cant set language in German its always in English. How can i chance to german, or is settingsmenu not available in german?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] rivas1981:
ITs ART working, in cianfox i activated reboot and auto deactivate
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Triads123:
I think it is not yet translated everything. But will hopefully come with the next updates
[LG Optimus 4X HD] musklor:
No incremental update possibility ?

Envoyé de mon Optimus 4X HD en utilisant Tapatalk
[LG Optimus 4X HD] akismal:
Any 4.4.2 rom i have tried gives me the same problem, my p880 saves the wifi but can t connect to it. My wifi is open no security code. With 4.3 and below i haven t this problem. Any solution? I haven t found anything about this on this forum and i wonder if i make some mistake.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
it's your xposed module, not cyanfox that's causing the issue.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
Why ART again and again?Do you have any improvement noticed?I have tested ART 3 days long.Nothing has improved.

System has not become faster.RAM consumption has not improved.Battery consumption has not improved.

So, for what ART is good? :confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ectoplasma22:
I noticed that apps open faster but I agree the benefit is really small
[LG Optimus 4X HD] TheFerhatKing:
Guys, Titanium Backup is working for you? It can't backup the apps to the external sd card it says no free space but 4GB is free. And Titanium haven't got write permissions, it says when I select the external sd card as backup folder.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] Flying_Bear:
there's issue with kitkat roms, sd ext is mounted as read only. look in last page of beanstalk rom thread for fix ^^
[LG Optimus 4X HD] noblica:
Switching to the "dark theme" in the messages setting does nothing :(
[LG Optimus 4X HD] MatVekk:
Use this theme https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=cm.theme.DarkHolo&hl=it :cool:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] noblica:
Data transfer doesn't work
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
It does it does just read post above ffs :)
[LG Optimus 4X HD] MatVekk:
Very good rom. Fast and reactive. Battery friendly!

Inviato dal mio Lg 4X 4.4.4 Mokee Os
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SpyKnife:
What happened with vanir nightlies? No nightlies for 11 days? Are we off support?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tiflao:
10/28/14 http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/p880/vanir_p880_4.4.4.102814.zip
[LG Optimus 4X HD] K4iZEN:
For some reason I can't change the LCD Density. I wanted to set it to 268 and it says the settings were saved but after a reboot it's still the same. Any solutions for it :confused:

P.S. Running the latest Vanir nightly & cyodak kernel.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gmajnkek:
go into you system folder and edit build.prop

ro.sf.lcd_density=268

save file and restart your phone
[LG Optimus 4X HD] K4iZEN:
cheers m8! There was no entry like that so i've just added it and it's all good now.

Is the lockscreen feature implemented yet btw?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] gmajnkek:
Dont know, cause i am using CM or liquidsmooth
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ex0rt:
My wifi doesnt work any more... I can turn it on, but It doesnt want to connect, it also shows MAC address in all zeroes (00:00:00:00:00:00). Can anyone help? :confused:
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Restart ? Flesh again rom ? What did u tryed ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ex0rt:
Yes, several times, updated to latest nightly, wiped cache and dalvik. Can this be anyhow related to Android L theme, I think I seen people talk about it, correct me if I'm wrong?

Edit: Probably not related to theme. But its weird when I select my WiFi it starts connecting and suddenly stops, since there is no MAC address. Eventually wifi broke, how do I fix this? :/
[LG Optimus 4X HD] dimi89:
Just to be shure flesh another rom but full wipe before u do it.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] ex0rt:
Solution to this would be a full wipe, everything else I've tried (because I wanted to keep apps and data) had temporary fix. Switched to Mahdi.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] yishay:
I ask the same question.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] yishay:
At last version of Nov 19
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SpyKnife:
Vanir got Android L?

http://www.emccann.net/nuclearmistake/VanirAOSPNightlies/p880/

EDIT: Tried it, doesnt even pass the flashing process
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
Yeah! Release 5.0.1! Commotio.

http://www.emccann.net/dho/3-Vanir..._experimental_alpha_not_offically_supported/

best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SpyKnife:
please tell me that you arent trolling
[LG Optimus 4X HD] moneyvirus:
Does it boot for you? I tried it but for me it isn't honestly did just a quick test didn't try anything else to get it booting
[LG Optimus 4X HD] CrazyWinner:
Is it booting ?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
Hes trolling just look at the wifi icon. In lollipop it looks not like that!!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] CrazyWinner:
[MENTION=6051920]fritzcola[/MENTION] ino he is not trolling. He opened build.prop from kitkat for show us. Rom is not booting but i think this is a step for lollipop for our device
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
That could be but why they should release a rom that doesnt boot up!!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tool_king:
It is named as Alpha Experimental, so what did you expect?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] varadinum:
It does not even boot. None of 5.0!

best regards
[LG Optimus 4X HD] TomJ2:
Ditto. Up all night dealing with a soft-brick. Nothing. Blank screen. Had to flash V20a kdz, then root, then...

Finally got up again and noticed that it was v5.0, not 4.4.4 nightly. But..., with the stock vanir load, I no longer have play store, or rom mgr. And won't go to s/w upgrade mode, just a white screen. Wiped all cache's, fact reset, etc., just goes to the stock vanir.

Too tired to think straight at this point.

Can't even update vanir orig load now, "Unable to load changelog" error..., sigh...

Gawd..., like a bad virus or something..., Gapps can't load, "Installation Aborted" (bad) is all it says...
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
Hope we can boot soon!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
New build is up but it doesnt boot for me !!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] PenguinStyle:
I haven't updated my Vanir rom recently so is the latest 5.0 (12/13/14) working or should I install the newest 4.4 (11/24/14) ?

My current version is : 4.4.4.090914
[LG Optimus 4X HD] CrazyWinner:
Last builds are not booting for me. Wiped system,data,cache . I didn't try without wiping system.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] fritzcola:
I think it wont till we got CM 12 because Vanir is built from Cyanogen.

Correct me if im wrong!
[LG Optimus 4X HD] tool_king:
You should better stay with 4.4. versions for now.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] TomJ2:
Ain't touchin' it till someone else gets a boot...

Looks like another update marked 5.0 came down on the 13th, but damned if I'm touchin' it. Not till someone else confirms a boot with it.

Willing to test, try, brick, unbrick, bleed, but not when there's just nothing to grab ahold of. Love to see 5.0 on this, keep going back to the 4x, despite a few torrid affairs with a variety of new tarts offered (two tries with an L90, that wasn't half the phone of the 4X STILL!)

Just one of those weirdo's who actually wants the i/o button on top and not juxtaposed to the volume keys where you end up hitting one instead of the other, or at least BOTH most of the time (an unbelievably bad human engineering design that the mass of the populace just accepts, weird?)

AND wants fast. Lots of RAM. A Micro-SD card for extended mem. Std size SIM (like most I get in most other countries and don't feel like razoring them all). Not the size of an iPad (Yes, I carry mine in a pocket still). Unlocked and rootable. Not $600+ USD (for a bloody phone? Seriously? - I know, my phone is so much more than a phone too now, but still...)