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[HTC One X] athulele:
It's not like that. You don't see Samsung or Motorola not updating their old devices just because 90% of the users don't complain.

Samsung is going to update S3 to kitkat. and motorola has already confirmed that old devices are receiving kitkat. those devices don't even have large user base like that of HOX.

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Let's wait and see what happens to the One after its successor in announced.
[HTC One X] and313:
So you are saying that if you dont know it you dont need it? Wow. That doesnt make no sense. Just look at the response on social networks and the amount of news. Plenty of people want it. My father who has an s3 is happy now that he got the 4.3 update. And he is 50 and doesnt know how to use the market :)
[HTC One X] JMCNZ:
There is no good excuse for this other than to push users to the next flagship. What annoys me is that I was considering the S3 over the HOX! I really should have gone with the S3. I won't make the mistake of HTC again. My next phone will be a Moto or a Nexus.
[HTC One X] Bl4ckX:
Im not saying that they don't need it, I'm sure they would find a use for the update but if they won't get it they won't cry for it.

And even if you saw about 100 posts from people wanting this update this is nothing compared to how many people own a HOX
[HTC One X] and313:
Sure but i think no matter how it is if the hw is capable they should upgrade it. And most of the s3 users are basic users who have 4.3
[HTC One X] Bl4ckX:
I totally agree to that. But upgrading costs money and money is something HTC doesn't have.
[HTC One X] and313:
Its not that much money i think. I mean look how long it took thomy to made it alone to kk. I know i repeat myself but i would just like you guys to think about that to
[HTC One X] inSaN1Ty_X:
No, Nexus 7(2012) does not have the same chipset. T30L used in N7. It still has support. AP33 and AP37 have been dropped. Those were in One X and X+. Shen Ye wrote about this in twitter.
[HTC One X] athulele:
But thomy developed kitkat for free and just because he likes to build stuff. No one at HTC will agree to develop kitkat for One x unless they're paid.

Sent from my One X
[HTC One X] :
As stated before they ditched support on their previous flagships even when they still had money and were growing. Desire (and HD and Z versions), Sensation (and XL and XE versions) got the same treatment. It has nothing to do with money, or if it does, then they have decided to allocate that money somewhere else a lot before they started making a loss in smartphones.
[HTC One X] and313:
Im just saying that it would not be a big money problem for htc if a one man team could give us cm11 in few days. So this means is not so hard to do it if they used current sources. I never said people at htc should work for free
[HTC One X] athulele:
Even I'm not saying that it's hard for HTC.... Just they won't do it..

Sent from my One X
[HTC One X] and313:
Exactly.
[HTC One X] Eiad Ajam:
shame on you htc you gonna lose your fans this way

one x+ only receives one update to 4.2.2 !!

really bad company

never gonna buy another htc
[HTC One X] a.broken.star:
HTC follows this rule:

Ohh we build a new phone, now forget about the old phone and think like we never developed it. It makes 'Sense', if we don't ditch our own created thing, who will buy our next created magnificent thing ? Makes 'Sense', doesn't it ?
[HTC One X] and313:
There really is an empty space for a good phone company out there right now. But i doubt that someone will fill it
[HTC One X] bosas200:
Not a big deal when we have kitkat roms :) it wont take much time for them to be really stable. Only bad thing that when new android version will be realeased ot will be hard for our devs to get without newer sources
[HTC One X] HTC Venom:
Lol. That's the same thing I feel , but I think nexus devices are great ,i bought nexus 7 2nd for a cheap price when being compared to other tablets , use them once these nexus device and you will never regret that
[HTC One X] mrbtree98:
Damn nvidia and dropping support. Atleast now I know not to get a product with a tegra soc.
[HTC One X] nikola016:
HTC Sensation has Snapdragon s3 procesor, for which Qualcomm dropped support, so Sensation or HTC One S (s3 variant) couldn't have 4.2.2 official, Sensation support dropped after android 4.0.3 and sense 3.6, One S stopped at 4.1.1, but Team Venom developed 4.1.1 rom with sense 4+ for Sensation thanks to SebastianFM which ported 3.4.xx kernel to Sensation to fix camera/audio....issues, after that Team Venom developed 4.1.2 Sense 5 rom, but they said because of Qualcomm they can't develop 4.2.2 with sense 5 rom because of drivers, and it won't boot, or had many major bugs...So shi**y Nvidia did same thing on their not even 2 years old chipset, so without Nvidia's support in kernel/drivers their hands are tied. They are bad in updates, but with Nvidia this is even worse, because developers can't port next version of android/sense to our phones like it was case with Sensation. So HTC One will get android/sense updates when HTC drop support on them, s3 has same chipset, so till Samsung support s3, HTC One will get support from developers or even HTC. Qualcomm chipset means it's easy to port rom on it, so it will be my next device no matter if HTC drop support.
[HTC One X] milomak:
Disappointing indeed
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
the tegra 3 is more then 2 years old...it was already a few month before one x out...but yea they developed tegra 3 too bad and so they won't update especially our chipset...also the LG 4xHD one
[HTC One X] kazgor:
I will never by a phone with Tegra on it or anything from Nvidia.. the whole 4+1 CPU was also crap too.
[HTC One X] Stevemeister:
I actually think thats not the case here. The Nexus 7 2012 got official Android 4.4 from Google so that means that nVidia didn't drop support (or they did but older sources are good enough to provide bugless 4.4).
[HTC One X] nikola016:
It's not the same model as ours.

I meaned in chipset...
[HTC One X] and313:
Its older and it is not being supported anymore by nvidia. But google still updated it to 4.4.2
[HTC One X] obsydian:
I still have a HOX but was seriously passed that after a few months it was superceded with the plus then One - that's why after 8 years of HTC I decided to move on as HTC have lost the plot.
[HTC One X] vipul0309:
HTC Says Nvidia Is at Fault for the Lack of KitKat Updates for HTC One X/X+ http://drippler.com/updates/share/htc-says-nvidia-fault-lack-kitkat-updates-htc-one-xx Via j.mp/drippler_app

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] and313:
Yeah and again if someone could explain it why it is so or isnt would be great. Why we cant have a sense 4.4 if we have a aosp 4.4
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
all is said already...nvidia dropped support so htc dont want to use old kernel because 4.4 won't run then so good like with newer 3.4.x
[HTC One X] and313:
And thats not even a excuse :) nexus 7 is on 3.1 and 4.4. Just checked it now
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
yea because the tegra in nexus 7 is much better then what we and the LG 4xHD are having...also it's a nexus and yea...also the 18 months update period whatever is reached...but i think the one will still get more updates...
[HTC One X] geojoking:
So let me get this straight. Nvidia dropped support for the more powerful versions of Tegra 3 (T30, AP33 and T33), in favour of the least powerful variant T30L. Somehow I don't believe that.

And even if I believe it, HTC should have insisted for Nvidia for the drivers. You just can't give up on something like this, you're risking your reputation here. HOX/HOX+ buyers in 2012 were the ones that invested good money on HTC phones. Why upset them?

Also, where can we find some OFFICIAL information from nVidia about Tegra 3 support being dropped?
[HTC One X] and313:
Yeah i think so too. They have to otherwise they gonna loose the new one wave of the customers.

But I guess we aint good enough huh... :)

The two comments above me say it all about htc. I am leaving htc as a customer. Just nobody wants to buy my hox. Imean is there something wrong with this phone that we cant see and others can? :)
[HTC One X] athulele:
Maybe we should try contacting nvidia through emails or g+ or Twitter...

Sent from my One X
[HTC One X] geojoking:
I tweeted them last night, but no answer. They don't seem to answer their tweets. Eitherway, I'm sure they won't respond. Has Qualcomm ever responded to the numerous e-mails and petitions One S users had send to them?

Maybe we're being too harsh on HTC here. Had they had support from Nvidia, they probably would have updated our phone. Still, it's their fault for not insisting for support from Nvidia. To just give up on so many users is very shady.
[HTC One X] athulele:
It's not the first time they have disappointed their users. The sensation, then one s and now one X&X+

They should have insisted for the drivers just to keep their image good.

Sent from my One X
[HTC One X] kookstar:
HTC will make an AmA on reddit. Maybe a Chance to get answers

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[HTC One X] and313:
I doubt that they will answer us back.

I once contacted ah (android headlines) and other major sites many times when i had problems with the sense 5 update. Wifi would not work but they didnt help either. I hoped they would do an article about it which would force htc to answer. Or not. At least it would be out there
[HTC One X] theliquid:
Lol, I'll never buy a HTC or Nvidia powered device again...
[HTC One X] and313:
Yes but the freaking build quality :) i have to hit up sony or something i like nexus but a snapdragon should have good support either way
[HTC One X] Stevemeister:
I wonder if 4.3 would be possible than. 4.3 would be a good last update for the HOX(+). 3 android version upgrades is ok for a flagship.
[HTC One X] and313:
I would say yes considering the fact the nexus 7 runs on 3.1 kernel and 4.4. So 4.3 should work. But i dont know. Sense has a different framework as aosp... So they make it hard on themselves? :)
[HTC One X] Stevemeister:
Yeah almost all OEM's make it hard on themselves but if nVidia's sources are sufficient for Android 4.3 than HTC has no reason whatsoever to not release a 4.3 update for the HOX. 4.4 will be buggy without nVidia releasing new drivers for it but Android 4.3 won't. So HTC tries to focus the news towards 4.4 and nVidia's flaws while they are very able to make a 4.3 update.
[HTC One X] parkentosh:
As I've understood nVidia has not abondoned Tegra 3.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2512611

They even released kernel source for 3.4 kernel (thats where kholk's custom kernel comes from - vanilla kernel with newer sources than htc ever released). Even if nVidia had dropped support for Tegra 3 then HTC is still behind nVidia with Tegra 3 kernel. I'm not mad about not getting updates but blaming nVidia is just so wrong! HTC has the resources to update kernel (kholk did it on his own) and even ROM (Thömy updated to 4.4 on his own) but they decided not to (business... who would buy new phone when the old one just keeps getting better).

If two people in the community can build new kernel and newer android version ROM then it's all about HTC (don't blame nVidia). nVidia even has a good history of support for older devices (mostly videocard but still good support). HTC has no such history. They have always done things this way (it's my fourth HTC device... have always loved the build quality).

As I understand nVidia has nothing to prove. HTC has to prove that they can provide good support for altest 2 gen's of flagship devices (HOX should get updates until One+ is released and One should get updates until One2 is released... in that case i would say that they have good support.... but not excellent... now they have bad support imho).
[HTC One X] geojoking:
Google is also behind with the kernel for the Nexus 7 2013. The tablet can run 4.4 with older kernels.
[HTC One X] parkentosh:
Yes but they also released 4.4 for N7 (2012 is tegra3) and if nvidia did not support them N7 2012 would have met the same faith as Galaxy Nexus (TI really did end support for chipset)
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
the nexus 7 has another tegra then we...but it's up to both...nvidia is really slow in kernel updates and htc is so stupid not to make a 3.4 kernel for hox and x+ even if now the 3.4 kernel is out -.- ...i think if they had used not the tegra but another quad core SoC like qualcomm and just released a lil bit later the phone it would still have support..

but it could be also that they say now they won't update, but they update it...they just say that so the customers won't ask always when it's ready...it could be a good plan ...but we will see.
[HTC One X] lukes91:
hope this is their plan :fingers-crossed:
[HTC One X] find7touchpad:
Shame really .the ONE X has a lot of life left in it still.I like HTC phones but not the company.the whole android eco system is a mess .needs a major over haul.HTC could update both of these phones but they choose not to like I said a while ago they will be pushing people to the ONE and not caring about current customers and that will be HTC,s downfall ..I hope they do keep this device alive a bit longer ,its a very powerful phone still.
[HTC One X] geojoking:
Let's be serious. They said they won't update it past 4.2.2 and Sense 5 and they won't. It's not a strategy to keep users from asking about release dates.

It's their final decision, and it's comparable as to the Ice Cream Sandwich update a couple of years ago. They clearly stated, for example, that all their tablets will remain on Honeycomb. And they did.
[HTC One X] and313:
Someone should make sense 5 with 4.3...
[HTC One X] ereneren564:
Sony does exactly same thing as well. You know most of you don't like iOS and Apple products but they give the best support ever. you get at least 3 years of software update.
[HTC One X] and313:
Yeah but it is a much more closed system then android
[HTC One X] D4rk_nVidia:
Android 4.4 speed up your Phone a bit.

But an Iphone 4 & 4s get much slower with the new iOS
[HTC One X] JMCNZ:
Apple is much more insidious - they create "updates" that are guaranteed to slow your shiny iPhone down to a crawl, so you have no choice but to upgrade to the latest and greatest overpriced iPhone, which after another few "updates" will need replacing again...
[HTC One X] and313:
Yeah "updates" indeed :) just flashed my other s3 with the 4.3 update now mms wont work... And a lot of other things are efed... So "updates" indeed... Thats how they do it
[HTC One X] ace9988:
One of the big claims of android 4.4 was that it could run on older devices, correct?

Nvidia doesn't support 4.4? How comes 2012 nexus 7s are running kitkat fine ....someone explain that one to me.
[HTC One X] athulele:
Some people are saying that nvdia dropped support for AP33 & AP37 Chipsets which are in HoX/+.

But they still support the T30 found in N7.

Sent from my One X
[HTC One X] elljeff021:
Why would u do that?

If things go like this one and one+ may get android 5 or 5.1 at last :(

Buy a nexus

Sent from my HTC One X
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
Nope I don't Want go buy nexus..it is also expensive like the others here too :D and I want still the one because of awesome build quality etc and the many roms and mods available for one...especially the audio mod with the awesome kernels...:p

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[HTC One X] and313:
I just checked the prices in my country. 400e for a new 16gb nexus. But yeah sound screen and build quality makes me want to wait for the one2. But if it is tegra4... Nope :)

Snapdragon 805 would be awesome and a 2k screen.
[HTC One X] DeeZZ_NuuZZ:
No they won't go for tegra they will use s800 overclocked or s805 ...but I think they will use the s805... Also at 5" screen it won't make sense to use 2k screen...keeping there fHD will be enough because most games would not run good because they need to upscale or yea there is no reason to put now 2k screen on :p but yea I will look how expensive the One+/2 will be and if not that expensive with contract will get it definitely :)

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[HTC One X] aromerblz:
Been trying to find a link to Tommy's Rom but cannot find it.. A little help is appreciated.
[HTC One X] Thant:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2583037
[HTC One X] and313:
if samsung is gonna put out a 2k screen they will have to follow. And you never know what dark fog will lie on htc minds when it comes to choosing a chipset.
[AT&T HTC One (M7)] ohredwood:
So a couple of days ago I noticed my power button on top was not responding very well, hmmm. Thought maybe it was because of my case or some debris got lodged in there. Took case completely off and cycled power button several times but made no difference. It does still work, as in power the phone on and off but you have to push on harder than what it use to be.

Looked online at youtube and related posts, was gonna look at fixing the phone myself. Holy crap, to take this phone apart is a pretty good ordeal and more than likely you will need a new outer case after all is said and done. Went down to local ATT store today and talked to them, and at first lady was like what's the problem, I can power it on and off. I said, well I can too but you have to mash on it a bit to do it, and once I put my case back on it's really gonna get more difficult. Get a new one and compare it, so she did and said she could hardly tell the difference, well I can, the new one has a positive click for each push of the button, which mine did too up til two days ago.

After reading online, I see this is a fairly common issue with the HTC ONE, which ticks me off since it's only 6 months old. Hell my HTC INC, was 4 years old and never had a problem besides just getting slow. Anyway, she brought a new one, or maybe it was newly reconditioned, I don't know, and then loaded it up and said here you go. I asked her if it was a 64gb model like mine, she wasn't sure, so I looked and it wasn't unfortunately. So she put in the warranty order for another one coming to my house. Bums me out bigtime, since I had this one all soff, unlocked, rooted and the whole shot plus as far as I know there was no pixels dead or lifting of the screen or gaps between speakers, and the whole plethora of problems that plague this model of phone, so who knows what my newly refurbished model will bring.

I'm contemplating whether I should even bother relocking bootloader before I mail the phone back in. Any body else run into power button issues?
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keveen:
OK I just bought on contract a 16GB Moto G. Very happy so far. It downloaded the new 4.4.2 Kitkat. Can't see any difference.

It is locked to Tesco.

My question is, what steps do I now take to get root access and install CWM?

Do I need to unlock the phone first?

Any advantages in using one of the new Mods?

Any other advice welcome. I just know how to follow instructions...:fingers-crossed:

thanks
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] scott_doyland:
Already answered hundreds of times in other threads. Do some reading.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] AndroidInsanity:
Use search. But do it in the following steps. Unlock the boot loader, then install a custom recovery, then root.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] big gulps huh?:
can we get our Mods to move this to the proper forum? (and also clean up some of the non development posts on this page)
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Clark Joseph Kent:
Moved Here as this does not belong in the Dev Sections. Thanks.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cra1g321:
Unlocking guide - http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=47705438&postcount=6

To root and get CWM - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2585242

** just follow from Now, if you want root, **

Don't forget to thank those who made the guides.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mokkami:
If you ask these questions which are already answered dozens of times i recommend you to read more first before you do anything. Otherwise your next question will be how "to make a phone out ouf my brick?".
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] keveen:
OK. Sorry. I get you guys. I just thought maybe the Tesco version might need some different approaches. Actually it is quite hard to find a simple list of "things to do" with your phone, tablet whatever or simple steps you need to follow. Of course the details are more complex. I wasn't sure if I needed to unlock the phone or could do rooting on a locked phone. Maybe each device forum category should have a simple sticky just like that for us non-techies who just follow the instructions without really understanding what is going on. :)

Also I was half asleep and I see there is actually an excellent introduction. Deaf, dumb and blind...
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NerdySpam:
Hello

Anyone have experience with MHL Micro USB to VGA adaptor ?

Im thinking to buy this one: http://www.amazon.co.uk/Bridge-Ster...&sr=8-3&keywords=MHL+Micro-usb+to+vga+adaptor

It says compatible with Galaxy Nexus.

I want it, to do some powerpoint presentations, anyone have experience with that? Galaxy Nexus can handle it?

Thanks in advance.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] EruMiNaTE:
Yes Galaxy Nexus can use this

:good::good::good:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] NerdySpam:
Confirmed, works well.
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] manolitos123:
i bought one adapter and i have problem. it works but when i connect it to my eizo m1900 monitor i cant see the whole screen. it cuts the edges. any1 know something about that? i am stock 4.3
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] eKeith:
Sounds like the display resolution of the monitor is too low.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] eagleamon:
Hello fellows !!

I post here because there's someting that seems weird for me.

A know that Qtek S200 is also sold as O2 XDA NEO. But is the O2 Atom also the same device ? If not, would the rom be compatible ? (so as to put the Atom in french or in english)

I just port this because I'm feeling like buying the HTC Prophet but I saw somewhere that the atom has an FM tuner and a 416 Mhz Proc so I would prefer this one I think, (Am I right ?)

Thanks for your help !!!!! :P
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] PeterW:
The O2 Atom is not an HTC Prophet device. It is manufactured by Quanta so is a totally different beast. I've been told that the FM tuner only works with the headset plugged in.

While the processor in the Atom has a "faster" clock speed, it is an Intel chip whereas the Prophet has an OMAP chip. The latter's "lower" clock speed does not mean that everything runs more slowly.

I played with an Atom a few days ago and didn't like it compared with my Magician. I'm gonna go check out the iMate JAMin (Prophet).
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] arg0:
Hi, I have a Prophet (S200) and a friend of mine has an Atom. The Atom is indeed faster, but so far I am quite happy with the prophet's speed. On the other hand, Prophet has many buttons that make 1-handed operation easy, and has phonepad for easy texting.

FM radio on atom works only with headset plugged in since the cable acts as antenna. Don't know if you can still send it over BT (no BT headset to try, sorry).
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] smartcity88:
different people differrent eyes and different mind, for me atom is better than mini, of cause have to work a bit, try this link: http://www.mobiletopsoft.com/board/view.php?newsid=276
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] eagleamon:
Thanks for your answers, is there any french rom for the prophet ?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] eagleamon:
Up up :p
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] redblackmini:
simple choice based more on looks, has to be XDA Neo, the Atom is pig ugly :D

Ady 8)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] eagleamon:
Lol, I've made my mind ;) -> Neo
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] sas90850:
Support. I used 818pro. :lol: