yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
Well, I just found out that with the S4 on 4.3 (MJ7, etc), you cannot flash another kernel with Safestrap, you're locked into the stock kernel. I was hoping I could at least flash a different kernel to help with the lag issues, but that's not possible now.

Making the jump to the X more enticing, now.
[Moto X Q&A] syntrix:
I jumped and couldn't be happier!

First phone ever with "lower specs" but a much better experience (and battery life!)
[Moto X Q&A] Aar_on:
I'm in the middle of considering it :). I *LOVED* my Galaxy S 3, it worked great, then I upgraded to the S4 when it was released, signal strength never seemed as strong as with the S3 and I hoped a radio update would fix that, it never did...not to mention the weird storage partitioning they have (only 9gb available to the user on a 16gb device..da hell?)

When the Moto X price was reduced I bit the bullet as I had been tempted to buy it for quite awhile and that was the final straw, I purchased the Verizon Dev Edition, so far the screen is great, the speaker is AMAZING, and the battery life seems great!

I see a few of you have missed the camera from the S4, I was doing comparison shots yesterday with the S4 running CM11 (I know AOSP camera usually doesn't get as much love as stock), but the pictures looked pretty good on both phones to me, I actually preferred the Moto X versions on 9/10 pictures.
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
Can you only buy the Dev Edition from Motorola directly? If I go with the X, it will be the Dev Edition.
[Moto X Q&A] emailrob:
I'll be able to compare soon - I have an S4 for my work phone and my new moto arrives tomorrow. I love android, but wtf did Samsung do to make it so laggy? I can't flash it as its a work phone, so am stuck. Even the iPhone 5 feels fresh compared to it...!
[Moto X Q&A] Aar_on:
Yeah :(

Either that, or websites like swappa
[Moto X Q&A] Dusty Rhodes:
I switched last month to the MotoX from the S4... Haven't looked back. I like the software out of the box for the X. I even prefer it to CM11 that I was running on my S4. As a matter of fact I may be a dedicated Motorola (non-"droid") customer. I like what they did with the software from top to bottom.
[Moto X Q&A] jm7775:
Agreed, I fully expected the X to become my backup phone, just in case anything happened to my S4, but now I'm just selling the S4. It doesn't even matter that my subsidized X doesn't have custom recovery, of course you won't have that problem with the Dev Edition.
[Moto X Q&A] kolyan:
So far its the Samsung thats leading in Android updates.....Moto X is behind.
[Moto X Q&A] syntrix:
You mean 4.4.2 only to Note 3 owners specifically in Poland!

I dunno, I'm posting on a .com here and my X is running 4.4.
[Moto X Q&A] bhp090808:
Had an s4 the day it came out. I also have a HTC one and lg g2. Just picked up the moto x Dev edition over Xmas and as a true power switcher I'm hooked. You won't be disappointed.
[Moto X Q&A] Galinha1:
I to am a former user of a GS4 , and before that was the HTC one .

Like some people here, i also like to try new gadgets, and i also had gs3, nokia lumia, htx 8x, but mainly i use in my day to day 2 phones, iPhone 5s and now the moto X . I still have my GS4 and the nexus 5, but the moto x is overall better, nothing on the papper can tell you that, it just is.. the iphone i still have, but it's been since GS3 that apple phones are not my go to phone, they are the one i leave in the car or at home when i don't want to carry 2 phones, but they are light , small, and if you don't use it much it last 4 days with a single charge.

I am now going back to GS4, just because i got bored with the moto x, but i'm sure i will be back to it in no time, and there is no good reason to use my gs4 back, coz the moto x reception is much better (4g all the time in my region, with galaxy it keeps switching between 4g and H+ all the time), also the speaker is much louder and clear that i actually use the speakerphone during a call, and i can't even say its beacause the camera, coz i don't use it that much, or the SD card too, 16gb is more then enought for my usage, so no logic in going back to GS4.

This year the story will be the same i guess, i will be buying the GS5 , and be waiting for the release of the New Moto X .
[Moto X Q&A] kolyan:
Yeah it started to roll from Poland....I though GS4 also rolling update
[Moto X Q&A] lamanna99:
s4 to moto x

I had the s4 for awhile. it was a good phone, I hated touch wiz though. it was laggish and gimmicky. I rooted it and went to cyangenmod. the phone was good, no serious problems. I just recently got the moto x. its honestly the best experienced I've had. :) at first I was a littlie nervous with the "mid range specs". but from personal use you would never guess it had "mid range specs". it is buttery smooth. and the screen was pretty good to. The battery life is surprisingly good, considering it only had a 2200 mAh battery. the only thing that isn't that good is the camera. but it still does take good pics. just not as good as my s4.
[Moto X Q&A] syntrix:
damn, must have been the rom I was running on my S4, because my X takes better pictures.

Photo guy with dslr's for like 20 years... yeah, I'm that guy. I'm not even fat, lol.
[Moto X Q&A] jjwatmyself:
Moto X is solid as stock. GS4 is best used with a GPE ROM IMO, even if left at 4.2 with safestrap. Add Google Experience launcher, root and use GravityBox to either the Moto X or GS4 and you have a very similar experience that is epic. The X certainly does an outstanding delivery with the human integration. If screen size matters to you, choose accordingly. It is a very close call! Pretty amazing really because the X has the CPU of the GS3, but with the same GPU as the GS4. Moto won my trust back when they delivered the X after having lost it when they left the Atrix 4G in the dust.
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
Here's the thing... I'm researching the X more today and realized that while there are plenty of cases out there, hardly any good tempered glass screen protectors. If I'm going to pay full retail for a phone, I need to have a good screen protector.

The other issue that's preventing me from buying it right now is the fact of how do I know a better Moto X is right around the corner? It would be my luck to buy the X, and say a month from now the X2 or whatever comes out.
[Moto X Q&A] :
Wish I was rich. Lol

Can't get over the guys with like 4 flagship phones. ;)
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
Trust me, I'm nowhere near rich. I hate spending money on something like this, but at this point I need a reliable device that is going to work all the time and not have hiccups or issues when I need it most, especially at work.
[Moto X Q&A] DroidOnRoids:
Swappa is your friend. List the current phone and get the money from that phone and put it towards the next flagship lol No where near rich my friend haha
[Moto X Q&A] Coderedpl:
Mime USA just release theirs for the Moto X
[Moto X Q&A] Schaweet:
It has Gorilla Glass 3 on it. What do you need a screen protector for? I've never had a scratch on a phone with any version of Gorilla glass and I've never used a screen protector. I'm not gentle with my phones either. Of course I don't put them in my pocket with razor blades, but I'm sure you don't either.

Sent from my XT1060
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
Will look into it, thanks.

Because in my line of work, my phone is subjected to being dropped on the ground while tussling with a subject, falling inside places in my cruiser, wearing gloves that may have particles on them that scratch things, etc. All of which my S4 has been through already.
[Moto X Q&A] Schaweet:
Gotcha. Put that sucker in an otterbox defender and put invisible shield by Zagg on it. You'll be all set.

Sent from my XT1060
[Moto X Q&A] Wragge:
I've actually switched from the S3 to the Moto X, I just miss the S3's picture quality.
[Moto X Q&A] jjwatmyself:
Same CPU with better GPU. Nice upgrade!

Did you try a different camera app yet? If you have root you can implement the Google Play / Nexus camera. On the Moto X the light levels are completely different when using it.
[Moto X Q&A] Schaweet:
camera FV-5 is awesome. Just read the manual to ensure you understand how to use it.

Sent from my XT1060
[Moto X Q&A] mickliq:
I have both. Just started using my X as daily driver yesterday. I've installed the stock AOSP camera as the exposure on the Moto X stock camera seems to be off, but otherwise generally very happy. Not getting rid of my S4 until I get through a business trip with the X.
[Moto X Q&A] acruxksa:
Hey all,

I recently received my Moto X. Originally I purchased it as a replacement for my S3 which had a cracked screen (I've since replaced the glass). My daily driver phone has been an S4 since release and I intended to use the Moto X as my business phone (rarely used except when I travel to a certain area of the state with limited coverage from ATT so I use GCI).

Anyway, long story short, I've been using the Moto X for 5 days now and I am liking it more and more every day. So much so that I cut down my ATT sim a couple days ago and had to get a new micro sim from GCI for my S4 since I had cut that one down originally. I now intend to use the Moto X as my daily driver.

I can't really put my finger on any one thing about the moto x that stands out particularly, I just think all around it's a very good phone. I really like the driving mode and it works great with my trucks bluetooth connection. I also love the look and feel of the moto x. When I initially pulled it out of the box, my first thoughts were that it was tiny, however I've quickly gotten used to it.

I'm not giving up my S4 but it's been relegated to backup duty for the time being.

PS. I'm a self confessed flashaholic and currently run KangaKat 4.4 on my S4, I haven't had a need or desire to root or flash my unlocked/t-mobile XT1053. It's already close enough to vanilla android as I need with some very nice moto additions.
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
Well I bit the bullet and bought the Dev Edition the other day with their "firesale" deal online. Should be here Monday. Hope I'm not regretting this decision, I hate spending this kind of money on a phone but if it works for what all I need it to do, then I'll be fine with it. Hopefully I can regain some of the cost with selling the S4.
[Moto X Q&A] jjwatmyself:
It's a really nice phone. I'm only using my S4 over the X because of GPE and the screen size. But if I switched I don't think I'd miss either. They did a really nice job on even the stock X. Much better than stock S4, IMO.
[Moto X Q&A] brando56894:
Seems like a lot of us did this! I got my S4 in July/August and loved it. It was extremely fast and smooth compared to my Galaxy Nexus, also the screen is absolutely brilliant. I still marveled at it months after I got it. But as you said, no matter what it always lagged a bit. I took touchwiz off after like 2 days and went with SlimROM/SlimKat which I had stuck with for most of the time. It's a great device but I kind of got bored with it after six months, after I had read a bunch of reviews on the X and saw the $100 off deal I decided to try it out. I've only had it for a day and a half but so far it's a great phone. The screen isn't as beautiful as the S4, but I have noticed it's a lot nicer at lower brightnesses than the S4. Also I have noticed that calls seem to be a lot clearer on the X (I'm on T-Mobile) but that may be the difference between stock and AOSP software. The X has screwed up on me a little bit with Xposed installed, mostly active display will glitch a little and won't let me unlock the device. Probably something that I caused. Battery life has been great, lasted from 9:30 am until 9 PM and it was at 27% but then again it only has about an hour of screen on time.
[Moto X Q&A] overthatscreen:
I'm coming from the T-Mobile S4 and I can tell you that I couldn't be happier. It's definitely not as laggy as the S4. Sure with 4.3 the S4 finally flies, but it still has the occasional unexpected stutter.

With the X, I barely have any lag I really like the Touchless Control. I need a new Bluetooth headset to go along with it. The camera is definitely awful, but I only use it for barcode scanning. The only thing I miss about the S4 is the keyboard.
[Moto X Q&A] AndroidGraphix:
I made the switch and will never go back to Samsung. They have turned their back on the rooted community.
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
Well, I am up and running on my new X, utilizing an I-Blason glass screen protector and a black Speck Candyshell case. Awesome combo, feels great in the hand. Just updated to KK, this thing is smooth as butter. Gonna unlock the bootloader, root it and start getting rid of crap.
[Moto X Q&A] thelandon:
Same here! I love it. I had to root, tinker, flash, and generally obsess over my S4 just to get it to look like the Moto X does stock, out of the box. I think the Moto X offers more useful features vs. the gimmicky apps that the S4 offers. Even with glasses, I don't really miss the S4 screen either. The Moto X is a keeper!
[Moto X Q&A] triton302:
The S4 screen is beautiful, no doubt about that. I had to use a magnifying glass to see the pixels, sure the X has a lower resolution but it's still a nice screen. But I do notice that it is a lot brighter than the S4's screen.

And I agree, the speed and fluidity of the X is awesome, the constant hesitation of the S4 and it actually hanging up on certain apps drove me nuts. I honestly would rather have my old S3 than the S4.

My biggest issue is still trying to adjust to a smaller phone, it feels foreign to me right now but I'll get used to it soon enough.
[Moto X Q&A] slatonyam:
I did. I was on Verizon with an S4 and dumped Verizon, bought an unlocked Moto X and went to Metro PCS.
[Moto X Q&A] Soldier 2.0:
So the question I would like to ask is: How many of you had a GNEX, then got a T-Mobile S4 and now have the Moto X? Seems like a lot of people did.
[Moto X Q&A] Vekhez:
Never, the Moto X got KitKat, before the Nexus 4 did..
[Xperia SP Android Development] KeiranFTW:
Ramdisk Hijack - what is it?

- We are trying to load a custom ramdisk in order to be able to load a non-Sony based ROM on a locked bootloader using 2nd-init. This is a work in progress.

How can I help?

- My source code is here: https://github.com/keiranFTW/huashan_ramdisk-hijack also, you will find how to install this on there too.

You'll probably wonder why I'm trying to hack the stock ramdisk in - because my phone is my only device, I also need to use it as a phone. Once I can fix things this way I can move to using CyanogenMod Ramdisk.

Progress? CyanogenMod is currently booting on the phone but there are lots of non-working features.

This is not a ROM, do not install this unless you know what you are doing.

On completion I will give you this in form of an update.zip

#keiran
[Xperia SP Android Development] KeiranFTW:
Any developers willing to help me out here?
[Xperia SP Android Development] DooMLoRD:
I am busy with personal work, will check this out later... FYI you can't boot everything on same kernel... Specific kernel patches are required for some ROMs... Without those patches crucial rom features may not work...
[Xperia SP Android Development] KeiranFTW:
I know this, and some of these kernel patches can be loaded as a module or even the ROM source code edited to suit the needs of the stock kernel.

Edit: I have had many people asking me if kexec could work, and the answer is no, probably not. Why? Because it requires a in-kernel patch as well as a module and so it is not possible to get it to work as we cannot flash a new kernel.

I have an idea and I'll start to merge changes soon :)
[Xperia SP Android Development] neXus PRIME:
I am not experienced in kernel dev but maybe i can contribute in limited extent.

Unluckily, i also got "NO" in bootloader unlockable and very dissappointed to see that.

I hope someone will be able to find an alternative.
[Xperia SP Android Development] neXus PRIME:
Have you looked at this?

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/locked-bootloader-xperia-s-and-want-cm10-no-problem/

Work in peace...

OP

can you link me to some good references about chroot? I got the basic understanding, want to try it on linux on my laptop.

Closest analogy i can draw is the linux live cd, which runs the OS live without installation. If thats the case, and if we succeed in this process, we could use some partition to dump cm and run it from there.

But lets not get too far, im still in infancy stage.

Regards

Yasir

finally Got the basics of what you are doing... You are essentially doing the same thing letama atis112 and company did to run cm10 usng stock kernel, but hijacked stock ramdisk to run cm ramdisk.... Seems a good idea but will only work for CM10 (4.1 based) and later when locked bootloader gets 4.3, we could get cm10.2 as well. If you are doing the same thing they did, then hopefully it will work soon. If its something different, then wish u luck, ill keep tracking ur progress.
[Xperia SP Android Development] MrSteve555:
Yes, he is trying to have it done the same way as letama, atis and others with one minor difference - we don't have pre_hwconfig.sh, so he's trying with chargemon. Older ramdisk Keiran's github worked fine, but after some commits he made it doesn't boot. When I try with older ramdisk and newest step2.sh, everything except sdcard works fine. I have an idea - what if we kill every process with every possible way(killall5, pkill,etc) and then start it manually, by calling them from /system/bin? Maybe it's the way.

Some offtop here:

Maybe the kernel from leak works on locked BL's? If DooM haven't changed anything in it - it's very possible. Maybe someone with 4.3 leak on their phone would try locking the bootloader?(Of course only if that person knows how to unbrick, if something goes wrong).
[Xperia SP Android Development] neXus PRIME:
I assume you have the same issue of unlockable BL? anyways, i am waiting for 4.3 so that after playing with, we can try and run cm10.2 at least... + miui
[Xperia SP Android Development] dh.harald:
I've redone your work, and i can succesfully hijack ramdisk...

I've CM booted up, but:

1. graphical glithes (i know the solution)

2. no baseband

3. no sdcard (inner, external)

But it's improvement :)

Source: https://github.com/dh-harald/hijack-ramdisk-huashan
[Xperia SP Android Development] KeiranFTW:
If my girlfriend would let me and I was near you I would kiss you right now :*

Jokes aside, I think I might be able to fix SD card and the rest :D
[Xperia SP Android Development] KeiranFTW:
I dont think any processes with late_start class are working... This would explain SD and also network.

Try:

/system/bin/sdcard /data/media /mnt/shell/emulated 1023 1023

/system/bin/qseecomd

/system/bin/secchand

Anything really..

When I was hijacking ramdisk before but loading the stock ramdisk just for testing I also lost network as well as sdcard, and I'm sure that I lost WiFi too. A possible solution would be *not* to stop these services maybe?
[Xperia SP Android Development] KeiranFTW:
New source code is at: https://github.com/keiranFTW/huashan_ramdisk-hijack

- Updated to work with Android 4.3

- Using 2nd-init instead of chroot

- Recovery included (not sure if working)

#keiran
[Xperia SP Android Development] bagyusz:
hijack

Hy

I modified the hijack source and recompiled the cm10.2 was.

hijack

dev tree

vendor blobs

I made a new thread on xda.
[Xperia SP Android Development] KeiranFTW:
Hey,

Thanks, your changes have helped a lot, so I have expanded on them to make it possible to integrate into AOSP more easily. I also use /system/bin/chargemon instead of system/bin/wipedata, it is earlier in boot process.

I also might want to note that you are not killing all processes, you need awk {'print $2'} instead of awk {'print $2'}

But yeah, great work.. you did what many others couldnt.

My repositories:

dev tree

vendor blobs

hijack

Feel free to add pull requests, and i can add you to the repository if you like.

Keiran
[Xperia SP Android Development] Diatosta:
If only this could be done in other devices, as I also have a locked Xperia, but it's a Live Walkman. Unfortunately it also has the Unlock Bootloader: "NO", so if could also be ported to other devices it would be great. Not forcing or pushing you, but trying something more updated than 4.0.4 would be great ;)
[Xperia SP Android Development] gigilie:
is this...?

[MENTION=4344506]KeiranFTW[/MENTION] & [MENTION=5765508]bagyusz[/MENTION]

sick work guys way to not never give up and accomplish what was thought to not be possible goes without saying one of the best development breakthroughs this year! :)

hey, in either of your opinions would this in some way be portable to our locked as **** bls on S4 Verizon and AT&T? We havent had ASOP capabilities or 4.4 for that matter yet and everyone is stuck on safestrap 4.3 stock kernels. Any help on this would be much appreciated. Its either trying to port this method or trying that new AnyKernel2.0 today not trying to hard brick heh
[Xperia SP Android Development] IGGYVIP:
msm7x27

would this method work on any msm7x27 after pointing partitions ?? [MENTION=4344506]KeiranFTW[/MENTION]
[Xperia SP Android Development] neXus PRIME:
deleted.
[Xperia SP Android Development] nevadasaga:
I still don't know what you're talking about. :peace
[Xperia SP Android Development] moonbutt74:
concerning hijack

KeiranFTW,

i am sorry to bother you with what may or may not be a 4 square dev question(s).

can i attempt something similar without building custom kernel? ( i read evrything i can but, lack funds for proper hardware so am limited.)

can i alter the insmod-ing of kernel modules to come as close to the beginning of the boot process as possible and have hardware functional in spite of slaying zygote/android userspace ?

this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1937328 outlines a means to

mount?load? a loop device from init.rc

my thought is as i have a gt-p5210 x86 device it might be possible to fire up (no matter how ugly)

a livecd or straight forward ext4 linux.img.

I would be interested in any insight/ideas you may have toward that end.

thank you for your time.

m
[Xperia SP Android Development] blaster282:
Anyone here can make this mod for sony xperia C (C2305). This device cannot be unlocked bootloader so there are very few roms and other mods. Most of these mod are from stock rom. We are very thankful if you can help :D
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JT Vinishan:
hello, a question can change the screen q s is shown with the S View (cover)?

Enviado desde mi GT-I9500 mediante Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Joku1981:
No.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ncwjk:
i want to disable the stk menu from WM5

decause the STK menu always auto startup when i was using programs,I'm crazy!~!~!~

did anyone tell me how to do?

Thank u!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Echilon:
STK menu?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bill_viper:
Yeap, STK Menu is the services which our provider ex. Vodafone put in the sim card.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] vijay555:
Can you change the title of this thread to a ? not a !

Otherwise it looks like you have an answer, not a question.

STK is partly to do with your sim, and partly your OS. What kind of SIM are you using? Ie a dual sim etc?

V
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] XDA II:
Hi! Sorry I can't edit the title as I didn't start the thread. I only have the same problem and thought about it.

I am using a T-Mobile Germany SIM. No Dual-Sim in the game. Do you have a better idea how to get rid of the shortcut being created after every softreset?

ROM: 2.18.7.7 GER (QTEK)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] vijay555:
XDA II: don't worry, I wasn't asking you to change the title of the thread, I was talking to ncwjk :)

But I don't think your idea would work - how would you run your little program - you'd put it in the \startup\ folder.

So you would just be gambling that the phone would run your program before stk, since we can't be sure which one would run first. So STk might run first, or your program might be run first... not sure though. I don't use STK so can test it.

V