yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Chaplan:
Battery has been a bummer for me.

Droping during night fro 50% to 20%.

Anyone having this issue?

4.3 beta 1 installed from scratch, stock PA kernell.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Passaralho:
Hi!

Found out why I have reboots and hard reboots needed...

Every time an hover notification shows up, if the phone enters sleep mode or if I press the power button forcing sleep mode, I loose it. If I wait a little it reboots, otherwise all I can do is to press power until it reboots.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] FuMMoD:
This might sound like a stupid question. Is the source for the current hover going to be available as open source or will it be available after it becomes official?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] nickyg008:
I believe just like with the peek feature they will release the source of hover when they are happy with its stability and most of the bugs/improvements have been fixed. Give them time as they have worked very hard rebuilding PA for KitKat and inventing new features
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] FuMMoD:
Of course, I'm not rushing or asking for eta. Just wanted to see how they plan on releasing the code if they are still planning on open sourcing hover. I was thinking it would be like peek but I'm not sure.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Passaralho:
Also, and most annoying, when I'm on a call on car bluetooth if a new call enters, call goes down, phone goes down, a mess.

I guess this is all due to hover and it's notifications, once I never had any issue before. Stock kernel, no exposed or whatever, running ART.

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] lukemovement1:
Before I phone up my provider and throw a hissy fit is anyone else experiencing no signal/service. I've tried a reboot but it hasn't worked so far.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jacqueline_du93:
Hi guys does anyone have a flushable zip to restore root after installing a custom kernel without creating conflicts with Superuser, cause I have one for SuperSU, but since Superuser is included I'd like to keep it.

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Rkappa:
Why don't you create a way to open the notification also from notification drawer? Like a little button on the notification itself that permits you to open the app in the smaller view. It could be nice and contextualized with KitKat, the way that you (and I) like, and it would permit to open from the smaller view also if you miss the 3 seconds banner.

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jxr94:
The developers have already stated that they're working on features to cover this portion of halo's functionality, so we just have to wait on it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Rkappa:
We can anyway give them more ideas, can't we?

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] micmor_:
Is it stable for daily use? What are the principal bugs? And what about battery life?

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] EdgA#1:
hmm... bugs, none, and DD for sure

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] argrr101:
Yes, it's quite stable. Seems like most bugs right now are related to Hover, so if you want to avoid bugs maybe don't use hover until the next release which will probably bring lots of bug fixes. Battery life is great, no number to throw out but I haven't ever felt like my battery was draining fast.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ferro123:
Peek don't work good here...if i delete the notification, peek don't work until i reboot the device. Sometimes peek turn on screen also i don't make anything... i have already done a clean installation and have elementalX kernel

Sorry for my poor english
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] philosoweed:
Very stable. In fact I would say more stable than most. I have quite enjoyed P.A. for the last couple of months.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] aletto:
This is not what I mean. I will try to explain it again, which is difficult because English isn't my first language:

It makes no sense for permanent notifications (the ones you can't swipe away) to show up in hover. Therefore, they shouldn't appear.

So why should you bother blacklisting them? Blacklisting wouldn't work for certain situations either. As far as I understand it, you can blacklist any app from showing up in hover. Now, imagine I want to stop hover from showing me that Skype is connected when I'm in the app, but I still want it to show new messages. What would I do?

I'm basically asking for a chance in concept and I hope it makes more sense this time.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] om22:
Exactly. You hit the nail on it's head :P

I bet PA team is already working on a fix for that because it's the most important thing for usability.

sent with my magic fingers
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
I was reading an article on android authority and noticed a little debate in the comments. I want to bring this to light here too.

Apparently Notifier Pro is an app that has been out since 2012 and has done exactly what hover does.

Now, I am not saying that PA copied that app, but quite honestly they should have consulted that dev considering how similar the implementations are.

Given the circumstances, I would say that if hover is causing you some grief or if you want to support the original developer who had the idea, go and buy the notifier app.

I have bought the app myself after finding out about it today because it's the right thing to do in my mind.

It would be good to see the PA team address this as well. Let's do the right thing guys :good:

http://www.androidauthority.com/paranoid-android-4-3-beta-1-hover-374342/

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nlucas.notificationtoasterlite

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.nlucas.notificationtoaster

http://imgur.com/CtmHRcK
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
is the original app open source?

Slim essentially did the same thing with their 'SlimRecents' feature, or whatever it's called. It was an app in the Play Store from a different dev before implemented into SlimROM. If it's open source then it's up for grabs. Heck, even Peek is essentially AcDisplay who originally posted the app here on XDA before he posted it on the Play Store and before the idea was added to PA as Peek

I'm not saying PA and Slim devs are copying code or even ideas, because many people can have the same idea without knowledge of the other. But if it's open source then I believe it's fair game
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Anu6is:
Didn't even know slim had an issue with their events or that an app existed. Actually the guy just commented on out G+ post today about notifier pro.

To be honest non of us knew that this app existed. Hover had a few design changes but all of them involved the overlay at the top of the screen, initially coming in from the side. The final design choice was made based off of the iOS notification system
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
I do not think it is open source. This issue would not have been raised otherwise. Yes, peek is similar to AC but I find that implementation to be unique to PA. I understand that there will always be some overlap when it comes to hot features but there is a difference in 100% similarity (lets assume UI as I am not talking about the 'code') and inspiration.

Either way, the original developer should have been consulted and credited imho. Again, the intention for my post was to get them some airtime here. I feel it's the right thing to do.

The developer makes some good apps: https://play.google.com/store/apps/developer?id=Silver+Finger+Software

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There is no point in dwelling in the past and what happened.

What's important is how PA should handle this going forward.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
i dont think there was an issue. but the implementation looks very similar to an app that was released in September of last year - https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.schiztech.swapps

i was just meaning that lots of apps and ideas look a like and can even have the same functionality without prior knowledge of the original
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
I totally agree with [MENTION=1363323]vomer[/MENTION]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Sushi3110:
Hello!

First of all great ROM, very smooth and clean, love it! Was a really big fan of the "old" PA too.

I wonder if it is planned to integrate Quicksettings configuration again in the future? I really would love to add a screen tomeout toggle and most important a NFC toggle since I use it quiete often with my girlfriends phone.

The full customizable quick settings are the only thing I really miss. Would love them to return!

Another thing I noticed is that I have no service. WiFi works fine though. Any ideas?

Did a clean install (wiped system, data, cache and dalvik before flashing latest PA & GAPPS)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
I understand this point - it is not possible to know every app out there but like I said - now that we know... let's do something about the issue.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] doron07:
I had that problem yesterday, but only with Pocket Casts. Before doing a clean install, I decided to clear the app cache and data and now I can't reproduce the error. Seems to be app specific, so try clearing your data first. I'll update if that changes.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheDudeAbides:
Disabled Hover and installed NotifierPro.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] micr0g:
If anyone needs a smaller NavBar at 44dip like me, here is the zip file.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/g8lk5wt058owgjm/Nav_bar_44.0dip_Nexus_5_PA_4.3_Beta1.zip

Thanks to [MENTION=4212012]kabauterman[/MENTION] for his Guide.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
I'll stick with pa and hover you guys have zero evidence of malintent
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
:good:

That's fine, but did you bother reading anything I have posted? I do not talk about intentions and who did what... It's a pointless discussion and something the devs need to work out amongst them selves.

It's clear that notifier pro has been around a lot longer so not sure what more evidence you require.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
Well everyone says the notification part is like iOS so who's to say pa copied anything from notifier. You have zero evidence to back any claims.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Anu6is:
To be honest (and this is my personal view an not that of the rest of the team). This developer could have handled the situation better himself.

He could have contacted us privately with his concerns.

We aren't boasting all over the internet that we created anything. We added a new feature the replaces the functionality of another feature we removed. We openly acknowledged and thanked Facebook for chat heads which brought about the idea for halo. We have stated that the hover design is based on iOS, which it is.

While this is besides the point, I feel as though it must be stated... chances are that NotifyerPro was also based on the iOS notification system so I fail to see why this developer believes that the our implementation is based on his and not Apple's. I (again personally) would have no issue if he were to integrate into his program the ability to launch floating windows in ROMs that support it, much like floatingNotifications did. That way users can use the app in the exact same way as Hover. They can use it on PA and disable hover to support the dev or they can use it on any other ROM that has Halo still or any of the floating window code.

Again, these are my personal views and obviously this would be discussed by the team, but I don't see what exactly we need to do about this situation. His app was not on our radar before now
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] .Gibson.:
I think people go out of their way to find drama. The core feature of the floating window is not present in that app but since it uses a similar ios looking box that pops up they somehow ripped off that app? I'm confused why this non issue is even being discussed. Must be a slow day on the interwebs.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
Holy crap logic being used. On the internet. Madness...
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jabza:
Go to settings > more (underneath the WiFi/data/Bluetooth toggles) > Mobile Networks > Access Point Names. Check if the APNs there are correct for your carrier.

Why does it matter if that app came first? It looks to me like they both took the design aesthetic from iOS. Anu6is already said they weren't aware that app even existed. If it's an issue of giving credit for the idea of the UI, it goes to Apple, not the dev of the app you're talking about.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
People just want a witch hunt it's stupid and pointless.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
I agree with you, ultimately this inspiration comes from iOS and that's fine. Yes it could have been handled differently - ultimately the devs on both sides are the ones that should sort this out.

My intention was simply to get the original developer's work some attention. Since they sell a paid app with this feature and had developed it much earlier, I felt they deserved the ~$2 from my pocket.

Also, that app seems to have some features that we have been looking for in hover so perhaps there is an opportunity here for collaboration.

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No one wants a witch hunt here. Stop perpetuating that anyone is a victim in this discussion. It's about working together to get things done.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
He wasn't the original developer apple was
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] _Infamous_:
Can u make a 36 please
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
Perhaps it hurts their earnings?

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no one denied that.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
They created an app based on apples design perhaps they are hurting apples earnings by that logic. Pa owes this guy nothing they did nothing wrong now drop it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Wow, you made no point... like people will switch to android because of that feature? If its not open source and the idea is stolen then they do owe him a THANK YOU at least.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
The idea was apples not this guys he took it from them pa also used apples design concept not notifiers they had never heard of the app. They owe the developer of said app using similar design inspiration nothing.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
i disagree. and i dont get how you feel PA owes him a thank you, but he doesn't owe apple anything. that logic amuses me
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jabza:
I'm not sure it does. I don't use Hover because I want that style of notification specifically, I use Hover because I want the floating windows. If his app doesn't offer that, then there's no reason for me to use it. Most people are not excited about Hover simply because it gives them that style of notifications, and if that's what someone was looking for, he probably would have found that app by now anyways.

I don't see what's to get worked up over.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
I do not think I should be speaking on this topic anymore. It would just feed more trolls who post senselessly without reading anything.

I think I made my point and I will leave it to the two developers to figure things out. :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jabza:
Not if they didn't take the idea from him. Both PA and the dev of that app took the idea from Apple, and if thanks are really needed for that then the thanks should go to Apple, not another dev who happened to also like the iOS style notifier.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
You made illogical statements based on stolen concepts in the first place so no your point is moot [MENTION=1363323]vomer[/MENTION]
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Anu6is:
Ok, while the core of the topic could be considered development related, let's not turn this thread into a debate.

A light has been shed on the app, users can support the dev if they so choose.

If anything further comes of this a statement would most likely be made.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] PetritH:
Ok guys, whatever.. lets just cut this and keep calm, let them do whatever they feel its good to do :)

I do like PA and I like Hover too, im gonna use it but I also bought NotifierPro just for the heck of it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jfim88:
I like Hover! It's very beautiful and useful... Waiting for the black list and more features on it...

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
Agreed :good:

+1
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TrenchKato:
The screen timeout toggle is hidden behind the sleep toggle. You have to click in the upper right corner of the toggle to reveal it.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] juancaperez2000:
[MENTION=1363323]vomer[/MENTION] just want to share with you that not even apple was the creator of this notificacion, this used to be a tweak that you can do with jailbreak, even before apple released, just my two cents I used to got an iphone and jailbroken it and got that before IOS 6 when that was released
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Enddo:
that's rather rude. so because people dont agree with you then they're trolls and they post without reading anything

amazing logic here
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] vomer:
Oh! didn't know that. Thanks for sharing :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
I decided to have a chat with that dev I'm hoping to god he responds, I wanna have some fun.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jfim88:
Just a question... I have Notifier Pro installed until Hover improves. Have selected the option to when a notification arrives screen wakes up... There are any option to don't screen on when charging or similar to use at night?

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] daniel84cs:
Nooo I love Paranoid android is my favorite ROM...

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Curiousn00b:
Drop ART then. Very minor difference seeing as that the phone is fast and high end on it's own.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] micr0g:
4.3Beta1

2000 downloads in only two days :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] peeweew:
Hi. I have installed franco but I want to revert it. Reflashing the boot.img from the zip will do, right?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] ZacksBuilds:
Just reflash the ROM

Device: Nexus 5 16GB

ROM: Cataclysm w/ Franco r28
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Curiousn00b:
The correct way to switch the kernel during a ROM is to wipe Cache and Dalvik, isn't it?

Been wondering this, as I started trying different kernels today.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Smoothface:
No need to wipe the dalvik and cache when flashing a kernel.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JamesPumaEnjoi:
This is correct ::good::
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Curiousn00b:
What if you've been running the kernel for about a day, and boot to recovery, flashing another kernel? Nothing from the past kernel will even be there?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] FuMMoD:
Nope just flash the kernel. Only thing you need to know is if a kernel uses current ramdisk or stock ram disk. This is covered in the kernel threads.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] habitformer:
It's pretty awesome when people give good positive answers instead a d-bag replies.You did beat me to the answer.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] pickandwhammy:
I thought the ramdisk and kernel were both part of boot.img?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Datzi:
Does anyone receive updates for gapps through the Paranoid OTA app?

I'm on latest beta and PA gapps from 12/30/2013 and it doesn't seem to work.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jabza:
That's the latest PA gapps package.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] JmPTaz09:
There is a gapps package dated 1/17 that I flashed last night.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] D4rKn3sSyS:
Hi guys, I haven't been on recently, because we're coding here at PA's headquarters. We have some nice stuff coming soon ;)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] abdel12345:
Awesome! Just finished my mid terms too so I'll have time to try things out. Thanks

Sent from my white LG Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] beerbong:
Wait for this change to be merged

https://gerrit.paranoidandroid.co/#/c/514/
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] anubis.genix:
great news!

beta2 runs smooth since release :)
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Red5:
OMG Hai. Please tell me you have a N5 and that your secretly developing for it. :D
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Pirateghost:
Lmao. What's up man?

No I'm sticking to hiding in the shadows helping the paranoid team out the best way I can. Stay out of their way while they create and just keep the servers running. :)

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Barbanish:
why ART aren't supported?

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] kevtrysmoddin:
Because it's still experimental I have ART enabled with no issues tho
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Stanlehh:
Guys is your Paranoid OTA working? Mine keep FC-ing since Beta 2, v5

am on the latest Beta 3, v1 now, still happening.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Anu6is:
Try clearing app data. Force closing when performing what action?

If possible provide a log cat
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] om22:
Works fine here. Did you try to wipe the apps data?

Also the legacy AOSPA builds which you can find on goo.im are they maintained by the PA team? Because my friend is running 4.3 Beta 1 from there on his moto g and everything even the OTA updater works fine.

sent with my magic fingers
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Stanlehh:
force close whenever I open the app itself, just cleared app data and it's working again! Thank you! :good:

Yeap, cleared the app's data and it's working fine again! :good:
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] TheCybertronian:
Not officially each device has a maintainer the builds are produced by a buildbot once it's merged.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Miz_Buzzer:
anyway to turn off 'input method' notificationfrom hover?
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Visegrad:
Random problem. Been running the new update since yesterday, FK r47, dirty flash, and suddenly I had a pop up that said "New SIM added" and asked me to reboot. Everything seems fine, but I've never seen that before.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] Zorrich:
Loving hover, had to get rid of light flow until blacklist feature available, but I believe it is worth it.

Does anyone else find the 3 second window too quick though? I'm finding myself racing to try and click the window before it vanishes, lol. Be nice if it was lengthened slightly to like 5 seconds. Anyways, was curious what others think.
[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] jfim88:
Uncheck Light Flow option to run in first plane in settings. It will continue working same and no notifications.

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[Nexus 5 Original Android Development] trdspectacoma:
Great Build. is the OTG function working on the latest build. cant get my meenova to mount