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[Nexus 5 Accessories] havi007:
I know this is specifically cables threads. What do you guys recommend for a nice 2.1 wall adapter. I have good motorola cables. I just need a couple wall adapters to take advantage of the max it can output. I would love the Nexus 5 OEM wall adapters. I dont want to break the bank ordering from the play store. Any suggestions?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
Are you specifically looking for a faster charging speed than the stock charger? The tricky thing with 2.1A chargers is finding one that charges Android devices correctly since most 2.1A chargers are designed to be iPad chargers.

http://www.amazon.com/Anker®-Dual-P...1396470253&sr=8-2&keywords=anker+wall+charger

That should do it, but you have to deal with a) the charger being white and b) the charger having an Apple device port. That port will still charge the Nexus 5 at 500mA, and will charge some devices like the Nexus 7 at full speed.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Rambler76:
According to the link below the HP Touchpad and Apple iPad 10W chargers are a good buy.

If you dont want to break the bank you should be able to pick up a new HP Touchpad charger fairly cheaply on ebay.

http://www.righto.com/2012/10/a-dozen-usb-chargers-in-lab-apple-is.html
[Nexus 5 Accessories] havi007:
To me it doesn't matter if its the fastest. I would be happy with as fast as the oem charger. I was looking at anker one... Does that cover up the other outlet. I just want to make sure it doesn't.

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Thank you I am going to look over these adapters
[Nexus 5 Accessories] dweekie:
This 40w Anker is the best Anker branded wall charger. Only weird thing is that it doesn't charge ps4 controllers.

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00GTGETFG/ref=cm_sw_r_udp_awd_qwjptb0F3CRTH
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
If you are using a small plug in the second outlet, you'll be fine. If you're using another large adapter you might run into an issue.

Anker is starting to update some of their chargers to this "PowerIQ" technology that will let either port charge any device, but it's only available on the large desktop charger and some of their portable batteries right now.

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I just wanted to warn against buying an iPad charger. The Nexus 5 will only trickle charge on any iPhone or iPad charger.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bradputt:
just want do a quick share on something i just received:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2M-6ft-LONG...Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item461d86efa9

length is 2m and it could charge my phone at 1.1A, not much losses with such long cable.

recommended good buy! :good::D
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bydal:
I recommended this ebay shop some posts back.

Awersome quality!!!!!!!

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bradputt:
Yes, I think I clicked on your link and found this.

Pretty good quality with free international shipping.

Monoprice shipping is just too ridiculous for non US citizens
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Pandages:
I'm still looking for some good 24AWG USB cables. The monoprice "premium" cables are 30AWG, which is pretty freaking tiny conductor. I don't understand how that could work better than the non-premium ones which are 24AWG for the +5VDC and GROUND pins, but 28AWG for the data pins. Thicker conductors yield more cross-sectional area, which yields less resistance, and ultimately should be able to handle greater current without thermal failure. This is physics.

My only concern is that maybe the cheaper cables use crappy connectors and poor solder joints.

I'd really like a 1m cable with a left-angle head, braided nylon jacket, 24AWG power conductors, proper soldering and high-quality cable heads with boots. Is that so much to ask? haha.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] chivamex10:
+1 on the ecomoto cables. I always insert the micro usb wrong side up, the sticker on the end of the cable saves me from messing up. lol

has anyone bought on of these?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Light-Up-LED-Micro-USB-Data-Sync-Charger-Cable-For-HTC-LG-Samsung-Galaxy-S3-S4-/301117713036?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&var=&hash=item461c03aa8c

I could care less about how fast it charges my phone.. this is all for show.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
Where did you see that the monoprice cables are 30AWG? Either way, the Monoprice cables charge at the same rate as the cable that came with the phone.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Pandages:
I didn't see it, I called them on the phone and asked for more information. I was told 30AWG. I asked them to include that information on their product pages.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
Interesting since someone else on here asked them and was told 28AWG.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=51452781&postcount=17

I also find it suspect that the Premium cables would be a single gauge for both data and ground when most are higher gauge for data.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Pandages:
I have no idea why the would give two different answers to the same question, but, I find it concerning that the AWG isn't labelled. That's a major selling point for me. Still looking for my perfect cables.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
I would assume it's because very few people care.Since it charges at the maximum current the stock charger can provide I don't think it really matters what AWG it is.

Edit: Also, I'm able to charge my Nexus 7 (2.1A charger) at full speed using the same cables.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] :
i'd buy lower quality cables just to save money since USB 3.1 is coming out soon & u'll need to replace ur cables at some point in the near future.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Yeah, that's not gonna work. 3.1 has a different connector (slightly bigger) and will not fit into the current microUSB port. Maybe there might be a 3.1 cable with a Micro B on one end but that kinda defeats the purpose of the 3.1 connector.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] :
yeah, i'm aware its different. i'm just saying i wouldnt buy a high end cable since the standard is switching in June or July.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
3.0 has been out for a while and the only phone I know of that uses it is the Galaxy Note 3. It's not like once the standard is finalized every new phone is going to use 3.1.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bradputt:
I don't understand how would you plug a usb3 cable to a nexus 5

However there's a newer standard than the usb3.0

I think this is more feasible than the note 3 connector, it's just too big

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2014/0..._could_become_standard_sooner_than_you_think/
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Geo2160:
How do you guys monitor your input amperage? Does that battery monitor widget require root to work properly?

Also, where can I find a cheap good replacement euro charger with at least 1.5A along with a cable for it?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bradputt:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/5V-2A-AC-Wa...d=100011&prg=9311&rk=1&rkt=10&sd=291119027093

this is not bad, different sockets for many countries.

and the cable is capable of doing fast charge.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Geo2160:
Did you buy this for yourself?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bradputt:
Of course, I'm using it now.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Geo2160:
How do you guys measure the output current that a charger provides, besides measuring charging times? Can you measure it accurately with an app?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
Apps can only provide the charging current that the battery is reporting. They can't grab the actual input current. Your results will vary depending on if you are using your phone heavily or not. Even just having the screen on will show a significant drop compared to the screen off.

The only way to accurately measure it would be to get a USB ammeter.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Geo2160:
Indeed, but are there any micro-usb ammeters? A standard one can not account for a bad cable.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
You can't have a current drop across a wire.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Geo2160:
Then how do you explain the major differences in charging times between various cables?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
That is not negated by what I said. A higher resistance cable can cause a different current to flow since the chargers have a maximum voltage. But from end to end you'll have the same current with the same setup.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] peikojose:
I am using Monoprice Premium cable, cannot complain.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bradputt:
So it means the resistance is the factor, not the length since the current drop is negligible between 1 meter or 2 meter wires?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
Resistance of a wire is determined by a number of factors including the wire diameter (gauge), length and material. The equation is R = (p*L)/A. Doubling the length of wire doubles the resistance. The importance of resistance is in calculating the voltage drop across the wire. USB chargers output 5V, and the batteries in our phones reach full capacity around 4.2V. As a result, you cannot charge the phone battery unless 4.2V is getting to the other side of your cable (this is a bit of an oversimplification, but it's enough for this discussion).

The voltage drop across a wire is determined by Ohm's Law (in the form V = IR). If you double the length of the wire (and thus the resistance) you double the voltage drop. If you double the current, you double the voltage drop. This calculator gives you a decent idea:

http://www.calculator.net/voltage-d...tance=6&distanceunit=feet&amperes=1&x=73&y=16

Assuming the site handles the URL properly, that is for a 28 AWG wire (USB cables are 28 or 26 AWG for the power lines, typically) with 5V (USB Standard) and 1A for a 6ft length. As you can see the voltage drop takes you all the way down to 4.22V on the sink end, which is barely enough to charge the phone properly. Increasing the current to 1.5A would take you below where the phone can be charged.

Now, how does this all affect the charging of a phone? USB chargers are not pure Voltage or Current sources. They run at 5V, but have circuitry built-in to adjust the current such that sufficient voltage gets to the phone. So, the charger determines the current provided based on the voltage drop across the cable. It's not a matter of the cable being able to handle a certain current, it's the cable determining the voltage drop (via its resistance) and the charger determining the current it can provide while still maintaining that 4.2V+ voltage on the phone end.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
I wanted to post again because I finally got a better charger with which to test the Monoprice Premium USB cable. The charger is a 4.8A two-port charger. With this combination I was able to get a charging rate of 1.5A (which appears to be the maximum for the phone). This was confirmed via a widget as well as the overall charging speed (just under 1 and a half hours for a 10%-100% charge, while streaming music). The charger + cable can also charge my Nexus 7 at the full 2.1A rate.

As a comparison, with the stock wall charger for the Nexus 5 I am only able to charge at ~1.05A. Long story short, get the monoprice cables which are cheap and guaranteed for life but make sure you have a good charger to pair it with.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] :
Just bought a bunch from Motorola for $10, then 30% Off with SPRING30 Promo Code.

Hope this helps!

They're Data/Charger Cables, so they'll work well with USB Transfer, which seems to always be my problem...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Yeah Motorola Cables are the bomb!! Their ECOMOTO cables are basically the best you can buy anywhere. I used that one in my video (back in January) about good USB cables and charging. It's on page 6 of this thread! http://xdaforums.com/google-nexus-5/accessories/buy-original-quality-usb-cables-t2609087/page6 Basically they support quick charge and are built like bloody tanks!

Mind providing a link? I wouldn't mind buying a few extras to have around. Especially if they have a deal going on.

And yeah, the Monoprice Premium Cables are next in line with regards to supporting higher current. They're just not a rugged as the Moto cables, but still support a quick charge.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
Since Monoprice will send you a replacement no questions asked for life...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Yeah, that's only a good deal if you're in the US though. While they honour the lifetime deal elsewhere, you're still on the hook for shipping charges. For example to Canada, shipping costs way more than the cables themselves and we're just next door. So the replacement deal isn't really a deal for me.

I have nothing against the Monoprice Premium Cables, and I've recommended them to quite a few people here. But I've also specifically said they're the best deal only if you're in the US! Not so much if you live anywhere else. I'd recommend the Moto ECOMOTO cables to anyone anywhere!

The ECOMOTO Cables are by far the best cables I've ever used, and how they're built, they will outlast damn near anything!

That's why I'd like a link to that spring deal so I can grab a few more.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] :
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-batteries-chargers/USB-Data-Cable/usb-data-cable.html

Then theres a Promo Code for SPRING30

Unfortunately, the only color left is white. I prefer black since everything else I own that would use this is black. And I'm racist against white :silly:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Well that went nowhere quickly haha :laugh: .... :crying:!

They don't ship to Canada. It's also not available on the Canadian site.

**EDIT: Also, while I'm sure they're great cables, I see that they're not the ECOMOTO cables. I guess they don't make them anymore? That would be a shame...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ohgami_Ichiro:
Just wonder if these are the "New Revision".

I would like to try both side by side but I have neither. I'll see if I can dig up both from somewhere.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Geo2160:
Please bear in mind that the charging rate is not constant. If I were to trust those widgets, although I don't think I can, my N5 pulled ~1.8amps between 10% and 40% charge. However, a full charge on that was also 80 minutes.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] paradoxiumwind:
I'm sure these monoprice cables rock, but does anyone have a UK source for high quality cables?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] raptir:
The power delivered by the charger is probably close to constant. The issue is that the widgets are only measuring the current on the battery. That means that if your charger is providing 1.5A and your phone is burning .5A, the widget will show a current of 1A.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mancterrier:
I bought one of these from ebay recently on your recommendation and I agree. They are the bomb!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
Yeah absolutely!

The cable I have came with my Moto Atrix 4G... That phone though... No Bueno. This was still during Moto's serious suck phase (and why I will never buy another Moto phone again). The phone was a steaming pile, but that cable, I put it through hell and it's still beasting away. It will probably outlast any new cables I have now, including the stock Nexus 5 cable.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] alexm231:
I'd like to try the motorola cables, but obviously the official website won't ship outside of the States. Anyone have a link for a place that would ship to Europe?

Alex
[Nexus 5 Accessories] DuB..CiTy:
the G2 charger works great, fully charged within an hour. i found a new one on ebay for about 5 bucks
[Nexus 5 Accessories] yahoowizard:
A bunch from Motorola? Aren't they 10 bucks each?'

Never mind, can't delete this either for some reason.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Quickfire:
My stock Nexus 5 cable is a bit faulty I think. I noticed the charging takes longer now, and sometimes for no reason it would charge 10% in over 30 minutes, when it was close to 1%/minute before. I tested my friend's stock cable, and it was fine, so it's my cable and not the charger/battery. The thing is I live in Asia and Monoprice's shipping there is crazy - over $40 for one cable. Anyone knows sellers who ship to Asia for a reasonable fee? Thanks.

EDIT: I found one on eBay. Not sure if it's genuine, but from the picture it is the same Ecomoto cable you guys are talking about?

http://www.ebay.com.my/itm/Original-Motorola-USB-Data-Sync-Charger-Cable-For-Droid-2-3-X-XT862-XT860-A955-/160917936687?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item257774da2f&_uhb=1
[Nexus 5 Accessories] esegara:
[MENTION=5642161]Quickfire[/MENTION] & [MENTION=5770038]alexm231[/MENTION]

Hi guys, i bought my ECOMOTO cables from ebay (seller: 2010daydream) with FREE shipping to Indonesia. I think it's genuine coz the quality is good.

Sorry i still can't post the link.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] howard bamber:
You have no idea what you are getting, IMO I'd go by price and customer reviews. If you get of eBay by PayPal and it's junk stop the payment. Most of the time the problem is the plugs and the quality of them. I get cheap stuff off eBay, sent from China all the time post included as you are a lot nearer can't see post being a problem if they send me a 4 dollar USB otg post free!

From my paid for buggy ass XDA app...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Quickfire:
Thanks. I believe it's this one?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Original-Motorola-Data-Cable-Micro-USB-for-XT910-XT885-XT890-XT907-XT897-XT875-/201043324184?pt=US_Cell_Phone_PDA_Cables_Adapters&hash=item2ecf1dad18

You've tested it and the charge rate is similar to that of the stock cable?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] esegara:
Yes, that one.

I tested with stock charger & charge rate is same to stock cable. But the quality of ecomoto cable is rock, its a very rugged cable.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bmg1001:
I bought the official nexus wired charger from the play store and IMO it's the best one. It's $15 I think.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] DerNeo:
I bought that one too and have to say. It's really worth the money. Best one until today!

Tapatalked from my SlimKat-Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] cdonald:
Going to try this one. Thanks for the input
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Quickfire:
Well I can confirm this one's fake. Current Widget shows 50-200 mA when charging with this cable. That's slower than USB charging.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bradputt:
I bought from the same seller, and yes these cables rocks!!!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kouske:
I actually got a LG G-Pad V500 charger and this one really is a beast. Gives out 1600~mA according to CurrentWidget and 600~mA using the square Qi charger (the one with the red light).

Anyone know where I can get another one like that for a fair price? Looked a bit in ebay and didn't find anything..
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ruilebreiro:
exactly my problem!!

i have the EXACT same problem.

It's incredible that google doesn't have this handled.

one just cannot find the original USB cable

(and yes, the problem is the cable, not the charger)

i've bought many ones, noone works. Several quite expensive!

google please FIX THIS!

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it's the USB, not the charger.

have the exact same problem
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vaibhav.ravi:
The amazon basics cable is really good and not very expensive either :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] :
i managed to get almost 1a via xiaomi usb cables. but in malaysia its little pricey.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] wolfen69:
I always use Anker cables. Very high quality. And yes, cable quality does matter when charging or transferring data. Plus, good cables last longer. These cables http://www.ebay.com/itm/Anker-3ft-0...955649?hash=item1a026ea641:g:9nEAAOSwyQtVlqNk are braided and gold plated. Yeah, they are expensive, but you get what you pay for.
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
I made a comparison between the stock Android 4.4 (KitKat) user interface and the new Sony Xperia user interface (since Android 4.3 for Xperia Z).

Left = stock Android 4.4 (KitKat) interface

Right = new Sony Xperia interface

Which one do you prefer? :D

Lock screen

App drawer

Change homescreen

Phone app

Compose email & keyboard

Settings app

Camera app

Alarms

Time

Stopwatch

Timer

Music player
[Xperia Z General] Moesappel:
Lockscreen: Sony

App drawer: Sony

Homescreen: Sony

Phone app: Kitkat

Email/keyboard: Sony

Settings: -

Camera: Sony

Alarm: Sony

Time: Sony

Stopwatch: Kitkat

Timer: Sony

Music: Sony

I realy like the sony UI but some kitkat things look better
[Xperia Z General] gordo79:
Prefer the Sony interface but prefer the dark theme of kitkat
[Xperia Z General] AlexX-DE:
Lockscreen: Stock

App drawer: Sony

Homescreen: Sony

Phone app: Kitkat

Email/keyboard: Kitkat

Settings: Sony

Camera: Sony

Alarm: Sony

Time: KitKat

Stopwatch: Kitkat

Timer: KitKat

Music: Sony
[Xperia Z General] gripfly:
For me: all SONY

Some little things I like on Kitkat, but basically I do not like the stock android UI.
[Xperia Z General] elias234:
u can't do this comparison in this way , it should be stock 4.3 and sony 4.3

or wait for sony 4.4 kitkat and then do the comparison between them ,

totally not fair
[Xperia Z General] Apollo89:
The main idea was to do a comparison 'Google Nexus vs. Sony Xperia'.

Currently, Nexus devices are on Android 4.4 and Xperia devices are on 4.3.

Anyway, do you think that Sony will change its interface a lot for Android 4.4?
[Xperia Z General] austinsilvester:
Wen sony comes out with their official kitkat, m sure it'll be unique... That time it'll be best to compare with Google Nexus KK vs Sony Xperia KK

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[Xperia Z General] eagle25884:
I would also prefer SONY´s existing UI in Android 4.3 as well as I get used to it since weeks.

Let´s wait and see, what 4.4 brings us next when SONY releases Kitkat. As of now, I´m totally pleased with 4.3 SONY UI.
[Xperia Z General] austinsilvester:
:cool: And as for my opinion on comparison, its

SONY SONY SONY all the way....:D:thumbup:

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[Xperia Z General] mtayabkk:
am using pacman rom 4.3 + install kitkat 4.4 rom theme cm same as pic on left side ;)

no any fc battery life great 4hr sot

i like sony ui but after unlocked the bootloader i didnt save drm keys so miracast screen mirroring isnt working on 4.2.2,4.3 tried on both :(

but on custom rom pacman,:good: cm11 there is working miracast wireless display... :D

i wana go back to 4.3 sony stock rom ... am missing sony stock camera i tried many camera port but didnt same as stock .... am not downgrade to sony stock rom just because of wireless display :(

tried theme of sony works great but didt get camera ,album,walkman,......and much more
[Xperia Z General] Djocker:
Awesome....;)
[Xperia Z General] armutyus:
Of course sony ui is the best(in my opinion). I always like sonys style. Different, simple, elegant and unique.

Sony Xperia Z & Tapatalk 2
[Xperia Z General] firefox-58:
After CM 11 and Omni also back to Sony 4.3. The Sony UI is way Better than CM or Omni and the camera is out of discussion. The Sony camera is so much better that you cannot compare it. I also missed FM Radio....

Back to 4.3 and hapy here

Gesendet von meinem SGP321 mit Tapatalk
[Xperia Z General] RoberM:
Stock Android UI looks so cheap...
[Xperia Z General] -cubi-:
and i can say SONY :D one reason i like is because i like their UI.
[Xperia Z General] blacksins:
I really needed this comparison! thank you..

The winner is SONY for me so i'll stick to sony firmware :D
[Xperia Z General] kamalmawa:
When I had my S3 there was nothing to compare with ugly touchwiz ;)
[Xperia Z General] Jambu95:
you can install xperia home apk if running android 4.2.2 or above, and album, walkman, movies apk can be installed on any device lol. my mom's galaxy S4 using walkman and album app
[Xperia Z General] mtayabkk:
installed xperia home :good:album and walkman tooo.

but i need sony xperia z official camera app ??
[Xperia Z General] manojpahal:
I like sony;) sony stock 4.4 kitkat ui:sly:

What an idea sir ji....
[Xperia Z General] diaboliku123:
stock 4.3 UI with KK Phone Dialer and contacts
[Xperia Z General] CiscoX:
Very nice comparison you have made [MENTION=5164470]Apollo89[/MENTION]

Sony stock looks better. :)
[Xperia Z General] indycar:
sony all the way in black
[Xperia Z General] raiderkilo:
Sony
[Xperia Z General] LiLTrippz:
I HATE the sony ui. I'd rather just leave the phone to google that that's it.
[Xperia Z General] cashimaru:
SONY all the way DOwn.... :)

SONY all the way DOwn.... :)