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[Xperia Z1 General] ermond012:
Z1S is for T-Mobile which has 5" fHD display and Z1 Compact is the mini version.:)

Just a little confusion with regards to Z1 Compact. On the news section of GSMArena it says that it has OIS, Carl Zeiss Optics, IPS but when you look into the Sony phones section it doesn't state these three (TFT instead of IPS). Same goes on the Sony website but there it has Mobile Bravia Engine 2 + Triluminous Display.:confused:
[Xperia Z1 General] JuicyBrah:
Check again mate, for the Z1 it says:
[Xperia Z1 General] Spectre51:
Z1S is not the compact.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Ultra
[Xperia Z1 General] coolrevi:
There is a new camera addon called background defocus. Announced at CES JUST NOW
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Release date for Tmobile US? Its January already. I want this phone, but it seems the development for this device is at a dead stop.:(

Currently using GS4 using Google Edition ROM.
[Xperia Z1 General] Spectre51:
Available in store Jan 22nd if I remember right from the press conference.

Also just confirmed with my Sony contact that it has full AT&T LTE support as well. Just have to get it unlocked.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Ultra
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
LOL people are confused, the camera is the same...
[Xperia Z1 General] JuicyBrah:
This is not a complete list, so if you have any information, please write it below.
[Xperia Z1 General] Spectre51:
Yeah.... just compare for yourselves guys. Take a second and read the specs.

Z1S: http://www.sonymobile.com/us/products/phones/xperia-z1s/#tabs

Z1: http://www.sonymobile.com/global-en/products/phones/xperia-z1/#tabs

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Ultra
[Xperia Z1 General] JuicyBrah:
The new wristband has a waterproof microusb slot without needing a flap.

The next flagship phone will probably have this too.
[Xperia Z1 General] ara.armagedon:
They dropped the ball on that one, tmobile? really?
[Xperia Z1 General] Sisyphus306:
On the plus side, Sony's skin is far less intrusive than TouchWiz.
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
Idiots at T-Mobile sent me a the refurbished Z instead.
[Xperia Z1 General] kirdroid:
Wow this display is really bad.. I'm back to Nexus 5, couldn't even tolerate it for a day. I think I'm going to return the phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
roflmao!!! .....man I hope it won't happen to me. I'll be pist off..hehehe

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OMG...you should've known the display on Sony isn't comparable with other phones.I'll see if the display is bareable to me once my phone come.
[Xperia Z1 General] fatannasty:
Just came in the mail!

Sent From My Bad Ass T-Mobile Note II
[Xperia Z1 General] knightsray:
So if the bootloader is not unlockable what does everyone think I should do?

I was hoping after the T-Mobile Xperia Z they would have learned and let it be unlocked.

So now I'm stuck thinking about if I should use my jump upgrade on February 5th to get either the Nexus 5 or LG G2.

Or do you guys think I should wait till April/May to see what HTC or Samsung release??
[Xperia Z1 General] nb31b:
You could probably use flashtool to flash a 6903 ftf and uncheck baseband. I used to do that with my Z all the time. I imagine it would also work with the Z1, though I'm not positive, obviously, since I don't have this phone :silly:
[Xperia Z1 General] knightsray:
Well you can do that but it still doesn't let you run roms like CM or Paranoid Android which is what I want to be able to do
[Xperia Z1 General] gtownie:
Brutal review of screen (granted one option). Making me rethink whether to go z1s or n5
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
I'll trade you my 1 month old G2 for your Z1s
[Xperia Z1 General] amorek13:
@ shook i have g2, just ordered z1s, why you don't like the g2, my main reason is the camera, hopefully i will not be disappointed
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
I've order N5 don't like it so plain. I give it to my sister as a Christmas gift. I would've order Z1 6903 long ago but figure I waited for Tmobile.
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
I like everything about the G2.. Only reason I'm getting the Z1S because of the PlayStation 4 $100 offer and they finally offered me the $0 down... I figured 0 down is the best time to get into the jump program and me being a phone whore.... Why not?

But if you asked me to g2 is more superior than the Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] amorek13:
g2 is good, have the same problem phone whore

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[Xperia Z1 General] 3vilhomer:
Hi, what kind of speed you getting out of ur C6903 on T-Mobile LTE?? Im currently using tzone, hope it works on the C6903 n get LTE speed
[Xperia Z1 General] OCedHrt:
Can't comment on that one, but for C6916 (Z1s) I get 30 mbps download.

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Yeah I am getting frustrated over this too - blues are washed out everywhere and camera WB fails in incandescent lighting conditions. My One S takes more appealing photos.
[Xperia Z1 General] taranfx:
Site clearly says

*Xperia Z1 and Xperia Z1S feature the same camera technology.
[Xperia Z1 General] TracerBullitt:
Hi, I've went through all 20pgs to see if tiptoekirk's and other's question had been answered; Is the casing actually plastic or aluminum? Can you tell?

EDIT: Also, what do you do with the old phone once you Jump to the new one? Mail it in immediately? Is it worth preordering or could I just walk into a T-Mobile store and hand them my current Z? I'll have to find how to unroot mine and all that before then.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Only the siding is plastic to get better signal. Everything else I s the same.
[Xperia Z1 General] fatannasty:
It's made of plastic... But it's really nice. I never enrolled in the jump program so I wouldn't be able to give you much information on that.
[Xperia Z1 General] karmamule:
Just got my Z1s yesterday and the screen, when looking at a direct angle, is absolutely gorgeous. I've used an LG G2 for a while and it's easily as good if not slightly nicer, so it seems there is some variation in screen quality. On mine all colors are very vivid, no yellow tint, quite lovely.

At home I'm getting about 28mbps for LTE, and have noticed that signal reception seems very good, and GPS lock was almost instant. At my office in Boston the Z1s seems to hold on to LTE better than my Moto X, though speeds of the 4G the Moto X gets are about the same as the LTE speeds the Z1s is getting (around 6mbps in the middle of the day) so not much of a practical difference.

Plastic sides have a matte metal look to them, and I don't even notice they're plastic so that's a non-issue, at least for me.
[Xperia Z1 General] gtownie:
For those of you using jump to get the z1s, do you have to pay sales tax on the full amount of the phone up front each time you "jump" to a new phone?
[Xperia Z1 General] kirdroid:
Yes you are on EIP or jump or contract phone, you need to pay salex tax on the retail price of the phone upfront.
[Xperia Z1 General] nightfox11:
I agree.looking at it in the right angle is beautiful! I can't wait to take to the pool next week.

sent from my Xperia Z1s
[Xperia Z1 General] TracerBullitt:
I guess the sides don't really finish since I'll probably get a slim case for it anyway...
[Xperia Z1 General] mofoliar:
I am getting my z1 tomorrow..cant wait,1st Sony phone for me!
[Xperia Z1 General] Josh McGrath:
You guys have really disappointed me. I really was looking forward to rooting my phone. Mainly for bloatware removal, but since it has a locked boot loader I guess I'm out of luck huh? Mine comes tomorrow.

On the bright side I've hated this s4 since week one.
[Xperia Z1 General] ngvuanh:
Root doesn't need to be unlocked boot loader.

However, AFAIK there is not yet root method for 4.3 locked boot loader. We have to wait a little longer.
[Xperia Z1 General] xperiaz2:
hey

thnx for uploading xperia z1s system files but i downloaded this 4 times always failed on 839 mb :( can u plz reupload this or just system/app,framework,media,etc folder :good::
[Xperia Z1 General] camdogrs:
Bummer

http://www.xperiaguide.com/2014/01/16/t-mobile-usa-xperia-z1s-bootloader-unlock-not-allowed/

Making me rethink getting this phone and just going with a G2 again. I had one on AT&T and it was awesome. Was looking forward to the waterproof phone with microsd support but may have to bail now.
[Xperia Z1 General] amorek13:
thats what i am doing, played with z1s and rerurning it, going back to g2
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
Wow you guys are making me regret my purchase. Is the Z1S really that bad?

I'm keeping my Z1S only because after rebates and t-mobile's $100 account credit my purchase price works out to be $323
[Xperia Z1 General] theminigame:
don't regret your purchase, I haven't gotten mine yet, but the phone seems solid. Some people just have different wants/needs in their devices.

for me, personally, I can't/won't live without an sd card slot in my phones.

I bought the t-mobile variant of the xperia z when that released, but quickly returned it due to the locked bootloader (and also for having gone through 3 defective devices in 3 days),

I bought the international US variant with an unlockable bootloader, afterwards.

but I have lived without root and with a relocked LB for a solid 2 months, so having a locked bootloader doesn't bug me as much as it initially did.

sony's stock experience is solid, so I can deal with, and actually enjoy stock and the options it offers.

although, i can't say how long i can last without getting the itch to flash something AOSP based, but I digress...

also.

I have a slightly stupid question with a bit of background info...

with the t-mobile xperia z (C6606), one could flash the FTF files from other variants of the xperia z.

can that be done with flashing z1 FTFs to t-mobile's z1s? if they are the same hardware, shouldn't it not be that risky?

I'm getting the z1s, so I'll have unwanted carrier bloatware for the first time in awhile, and root seems like a necessity..

I know it's slightly off topic, but didn't want to start a new thread..

thanks for any advice with my question.
[Xperia Z1 General] TracerBullitt:
Wouldn't call that off topic. I plan on getting the Z1s and then rooting it like I did my current T-Mo Z.
[Xperia Z1 General] scoobdude:
Can the carrier apps at least be disabled?

Not just to figure out if I should order today with next day it wait till Wed....
[Xperia Z1 General] Josh McGrath:
So I could essentially root with the stock Rom? What about updates to the phone, won't that make you lose root once they force us to kit Kat
[Xperia Z1 General] ngvuanh:
If you update, you may lose the root.

You may have to re-root with compatible root tool for new rom.
[Xperia Z1 General] TracerBullitt:
Another concern is the Z2. Rumor (and I do mean rumor) has it, it'll be released or revealed next month, conveniently after most on T-Mo grab the Z1s. I personally would rather wait a little longer for the Z2 than slightly upgrade to the Z1s then have to wait another 6mos to Jump, assuming T-Mo gets it...
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Sure thing good luck waiting for another year or more for it to hit US market. Lol by that time other companies will have better specs.
[Xperia Z1 General] Josh McGrath:
Well I just got my phone and using it now. My first impressions...

What good is a 20.7 mp camera when all but 8mp is 4.3 and not wide screen 16.9. In Sony defense even the note 3 has an 13 mp camera and is 4.3 and default to 8 as well.

The lens likes to blur around bright lights but I don't use the camera much anyway. So that's not a deal breaker.

The screen I have is great. No complaints from me there.

U.I. Is super fast. This is my.biggest problem with my laggy s4. I love how smooth it is. It's similar to the g2, but I had to have my sd card slot.

Possible deal breaker... The locked bootloader! I mean come on tmobile let's not pull a Verizon on us now. I'm on with rooting the stock rom but I like to have total control of my device.

Very good looking phone.as well.

So far I am happy with it but the bootloader might be a deal breaker...at least as an employee I have 30 days to make up my mind with no restocking fee.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Just got phone around 2pm. Playing with it, the screen is OK not bad as people's say.
[Xperia Z1 General] negrobembon:
Why would it be bad? Isn't it an IPS panel like the compact? Or its the same as the regular Z1?
[Xperia Z1 General] amorek13:
not a lotofbloat regular tmo bs and lockout, other then that stock plus sony stuff
[Xperia Z1 General] nightfox11:
I had a G2 and sold it to get Z1s... While its a good phone great battery life and screen the camera was horrible! Painfully slow... The Z1s is better IMOH

sent from my Xperia Z1s
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Well playing with it all day, back to my GS4, hehe I can't stand it without root. :(
[Xperia Z1 General] Petronilo13:
Antutu Z1s?
[Xperia Z1 General] OCedHrt:
It's same as Z1.

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Check out this yummy picture:

On my Z1 it looks washed out - the mayo looks like just a blob of white where you can barely make out the lines. However, on the original phone (One S and on my laptop it looks delicious).

Edit: Wow, I just discovered there is some dynamic contrast going on that makes things look washed out - if you have a menu with white background open, or one of the mini apps running, everything looks great! Basically, something to force the contrast range.
[Xperia Z1 General] Clownzer:
I get my Z1s tomorrow and I will do some side-by-sides with my T-Mobile Samsung GN3. I owned a Z1 but did not like that I couldnt get all of the TMO LTE signals so I sold it. Can't wait to get my hands on the Z1s.
[Xperia Z1 General] Josh McGrath:
This actually the first phone that I get full bars of LTE. I only got 2 most of the Time with my s4
[Xperia Z1 General] ikm19:
Yes thats true, first i thought its fake bars but not. I get now lte even the places in my office i use to never get it
[Xperia Z1 General] TracerBullitt:
So wait, the Z1c got the new screen but not the Z1s? What makes IPS better anyway. I missed that memo...
[Xperia Z1 General] 3vilhomer:
I believe IPS panel give u 178 degree of viewing angle. Cuz my computer monitor is using IPS n the viewing angle is awesome
[Xperia Z1 General] TracerBullitt:
Eh. I'm fine with the Z's angle. But I understand there are some who won't be happy until they get, at least, a 360degree viewing angle...

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Um. Another question.

So the Z1s has 32gb available. What will happen if I put my 64gb memory card into it? Is it no longer compatible? That would suck...
[Xperia Z1 General] OCedHrt:
IPS also has better color reproduction. The colors on my Z1s is craps and I hope it's fixable.

The internal memory and memory card are separate.
[Xperia Z1 General] TracerBullitt:
Thank you, and thank you.
[Xperia Z1 General] JMM2009:
I'm using my 64gb SanDisk SD card and it is working great.
[Xperia Z1 General] negrobembon:
Loaded guy is loaded

I wanted to use a 64gb card with this phone but i won't pay 200$ for one of those
[Xperia Z1 General] cavalier11:
For anyone having issues with the screen on the z1s having a slight yellowish tiny to it, if you go into settings -> display -> white balance, the r, g and b are set to 0 by default. If you change B to approximately 100 you'll notice your yellow tint issue will go away and the screen will look much clearer, especially the whites. I no longer have any complaints regarding the screen.. Hope this helps others that may be unaware of this.
[Xperia Z1 General] theminigame:
64gb cards don't cost that much.. Got mine on Amazon, paid 50 for it. Class 10, too.
[Xperia Z1 General] OCedHrt:
The Z1s is just TMOUS Z1. Not really a new device. Z1c is a new device, plus lower resolution.
[Xperia Z1 General] theminigame:
just saw someone post in another thread that the memory is laid out differently between the z1 and z1s, thus one cannot use the method available to root it. is this true? if so, that's a serious bummer. i'd really like to rid myself of the t-mo carrier iq and other bloat...
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
I'm not too concerned about us obtaining root. I'm sure it will happen in a matter of days. Now the ability to unlock the bootloader that's a different story.
[Xperia Z1 General] bryan572:
Does the Z1S have the built inscreen protector also?
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
The front does and I sure hope the rear does too. I already have a few scratches on the rear with minimal use the phone isn't even 24 hours old.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Hey guys did anyone check the build.prop? I think our Z1s have the spectrum band that tmo just purchased from Verizon. I just check the build.prop and see voLTE. So I think when tmobile roll out voLTE next year our phone will have it.:D

http://www.tmonews.com/2014/01/whats-next-for-t-mobile-volte-and-low-frequency/
[Xperia Z1 General] Ajj915:
I believe you are correct on that one.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Thanks. Buddy, even though I don't see the yellowish tint, but the screen does look better.
[Xperia Z1 General] drduranduran:
I thought the exact same thing and did the exact same thing to fix this. Looks much better with these settings.
[Xperia Z1 General] EniGmA1987:
It looks like the Z1S can access the same 3G bands that ATT has, will it also connect properly to ATT's LTE network for 4G data speeds if I put in my ATT sim card?
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
As long as you sim unlock
[Xperia Z1 General] EEngineer:
Anyone root the Z1S yet?
[Xperia Z1 General] ngvuanh:
I would like to ask one who received Z1S.

Would you be able to download and install ISIS Mobile Wallet on it?

My Z1S just shipped today and scheduled for delivery on Fri.

Thank you for answers.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Why not Google Wallet?:):)
[Xperia Z1 General] ngvuanh:
20% cash back with serve.
[Xperia Z1 General] EEngineer:
Why not just donate all your money to Google? :p
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Anyone here using Google Launcher? I like it cause I can say "Okay Google "
[Xperia Z1 General] drksilenc:
you can do that so long as you have a search bar on your home screen. There is a bug currently with it the only phone not effected by it is the motox
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
I pull the launcher out of my NEXUS5 before giving to my sis. Only thing it doesn't have a lot of settings where you can configure the way you want. :-o:(
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
Why not? :P
[Xperia Z1 General] vlcano57:
Epsix how do you get the Google launcher on there?

And how is everyone's battery life so far? I'm considering ditching my droid maxx I'm using on tmobile for this but I'm a raw android experience kinda guy.

Thanks!
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
The battery life is awesome heavy use, I get 1 1/2 day. As for Google launcher I pull it out of my old nexus 5 before giving it to my sister. Want it? I can upload it, works great.
[Xperia Z1 General] vlcano57:
That would be awesome bud thanks! Do you have to be rooted for it?
[Xperia Z1 General] vlcano57:
I also meant to ask how loud the speaker is and also if the z1s has qi wireless charging
[Xperia Z1 General] Zerousen:
Z1s is essentially the same phone, with slightly different audio port placement and switched charging and micro sd slots, and a slightly less premium feeling build due to the plastic frame. I checked out some at T-Mobile earlier today, and the displays all seem to have a yellowish display, but that can definitely be remedied with the white balance, which can be found in the settings. Speaker performance is pretty much the same, displays seem to be the same, but the Z1 has a more premium feel with the aluminum frame. The is no qi wireless charging for either, but there is still the magnetic charging port.
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
I assume so as it comes with a ISIS micro sim with instructions directing you to a url to "sim upgrade" your account. Cost nothing though. I haven't tested it yet though as Play store won't allow me to download ISIS Mobile payment app stating "it isn't available on your carrier".
[Xperia Z1 General] vlcano57:
I checked one out yesterday. I do like the phone a lot a bit turned off by the speaker volume but then again what I'm using now is much louder then normal phones. Thanks for the input everyone
[Xperia Z1 General] magnus0322:
I was able to install ISIS app no problem and add cards etc, gonna test it out this week while I'm traveling at the airports. I don't see why it shouldn't work.

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Battery life is great so far. I've only had the phone for 3 days and I'm averaging around 6-7 hrs on screen time with varied use (texts, emails, browsing, Netflix, music) I've been using stamina mode around the 50% mark.

Just like you I prefer the raw android experience, although I will say I haven't hated the Sony UI as much as I thought I would. I think it's because this thing is zippy and I'm coming over from a Sprint HTC EVO 4G LTE with CM11. I must say Tmobile LTE is great. Even their HSPA+ 3G beats Sprint LTE. So far I'm very pleased. I think I'm gonna keep jump and see what the new HTC or Nexus phone will be like...but I wouldn't mind keeping this thing for 2 years, even without root.
[Xperia Z1 General] vlcano57:
Sounds Awesome! I guess I can always re install nova launcher and pretend its raw android lol. I am really on the fence about this and the Moto X...if they were to release a good battery case like a mophie for the moto x that would make my mind set..but that battery is just so so small.
[Xperia Z1 General] magnus0322:
Yeah. I hear you. In my opinion get jump, worst case scenario in 6 months you can get something else. You also get 14 days to return the phone and pay a $50 restocking fee.

One thing I did notice, I switched 4 lines from sprint to tmobile. I bought the Z1S, Note 3, HTC One, S4. At my Dad's apartment in South FL there is 0 reception with any carrier. Sprint had given us a free airave to get usable reception in the apartment. With tmobile it's 0 reception on all those other phones, but I was getting 2 bars inside with the Z1S. Granted the WiFi calling mitigates the issues. But I've noticed really good reception with this phone everywhere.

The one complaint I do have is that on LTE people say my voice is tinny, like a can. On 3G the sound is perfect. Since I'm new to tmobile I'm still experimenting. I'm a pilot and I travel all over the country so I'm trying to decide if it's the phone or the network. Anyone else notice the same?
[Xperia Z1 General] scoobdude:
Just FYI you can set when stamina mode and low battery mode kick in. You can also add a button on the quick launcher for it.

Isis instated fine for me but have not tried it.

Battery is awesome. currently at 17.5hrs with just under 5 hours of screen time and I am still at 9% typing this.

My complaints are the leds are not linesd upon the notification led so orange can be green,red or orange dorms on viewing angle. Any one see this?

Also my headphone jack would not see my car aux. Same cable worked on headphones most of the time. Any one else see this as well?
[Xperia Z1 General] stealthj:
The phone doesn't have voice on LTE, it always reverts to 3g to make calls
[Xperia Z1 General] magnus0322:
Thanks, I noticed that, like I said only been on T-Mobile for 5 days, still learning all the little ins and outs of their network. Is LTE not used for voice on any carrier? I don't think I ever saw my EVO 4G LTE switch to 3G for voice, it was definitely much better as far as voice than T-Mobile