yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] 0Gi:
INTERESTING o.O

Well, make sure you have 100% battery, then nstall a fresh new ROM. I have Gin2KitKat 3.1.0 with NightElf Experimental. Do a Factory Reset, format System, delete Dalvik's Cache, delete Baterry Stats, Fix Permissions. Reboot. Install a Batery Callibration app from Play Store (I can't post a link, because this is my 2nd post, lol.

Then play some games or something untill your battery dies. Put your phone to charge for a couple hours, turn it on, callibrate your battery with that app & plug out your phone. Don't leave your WiFi, BT, Sync, etc. on if you don't use your phone.

If this doesn't help...well...buy a new battery.

Press "Thanks" if I hepled in any way. I really need those :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] 0Gi:
Min. should be 0% on every Andorid phone. If you bought a new battery and "still crazy", than battery is not the problem.

Did you calibrate your battery as I said?

What ROM & Kernel are you using now?

Press "Thanks" if I hepled in any way. I really need those :D
[Sony Ericsson Xperia Neo, Pro] herumukti99:
I use your method but not working,,so how to make min.battery zero again, I think that a problem??:(

Sent from my MT11i
[Moto G General] helppme:
I bought the official flip case. It has a magnet in the front. Unfortunately Moto have used a rather powerful neodinium magnet. So, your phones magnetometer will follow the edge of the case around rather than true north!!!! This doesn't matter for gps navigation, but for on foot travel, and any augmented reality apps that use the compass this case will make the behave oddly.

I don't know what the long term effect on the phones compass will be, but I don't expect it to be good.

In addition, but for me I think it is a small risk, this magnet will be capable of damaging some computer storage mediums and possibly, wiping swipe card data...

I have no idea why they chose to use such an aggressive magnet. I can hang the phone from a metal bar with it, no problem.

Just thought I would share....
[Moto G General] jaramigo:
Good to know, i had my worries about this as well. Putting a magnet over the phone 24/7 didn't seem like a good idea:D
[Moto G General] helppme:
its great for storing your phone on the fridge door though.. wtf were Motorola and google thinking. I think I'm going to complain and see what they say
[Moto G General] Soerdroid:
Yes sir, you should that. It is ridiculous to make such design mistake on an official case. I was about to buy one but after reading your story I am not sure anymore. Keep us posted.

Btw; you can contact Motorola via their official app Moto Care.
[Moto G General] Shadow_2k:
Glad to know, that I am not the only one who is concerned about that magnet. By the way there are two magnets. A weak one to trigger the screen on/off and a strong magnet to keep the case closed.

After removing the strong magnet you will be able to use the compass with the cover flipped to the backside.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYiSdys0zYg&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Edit: The strong magnet was on the lower third, where the cut is visible.

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[Moto G General] JoeSchmoe007:
TIL that official Moto accessory screws up Moto phone. But look at the good side: you can now keep it on your fridge door!

:D:D:D
[Moto G General] helppme:
spoke to moto care. sent them screen shots of the magnetometer all messed up. They said they will get back to me, but no one else has reported issues... *cough* bull**** *cough...

I have noticed today that even when I remove the case, the magnetic sensor is all messed up. It seems after a week of use it has screwed up the sensors calibration (probably correctable)..

evidently, part of the cheap price is a lack of proper beta testing of the phone and accessories....
[Moto G General] suomilk:
I have ordered one from amazon. Now I will sent it back. I have my concerns too so I wont even try it.
[Moto G General] debaj:
With GPS Status from Play Store you can force recalibration.
[Moto G General] rec71:
I can also confirm this. I have a white flip case but stopped using it after a week as it got in the way. I just put it back on and sure enough my compass was exhibiting the same issue. How did they miss this?
[Moto G General] pisherthefisher:
Recalibrating the compass with the GPS toolbox app seemed to have fix this issue for me
[Moto G General] helppme:
there is a small metal square on the inside of the flip cases backcase. I 'think' this is intended to shield the sensor from the magnet when the case is open. It clearly is TOTALLY inadequate to the task. I'm speculating this is what the metal square is for, as it corresponds in position exactly with one of the magnets in the case door, and this metal square is not present on the normal back case..

Simply lazy design and testing... why does it even need a magnet to stay closed :/ its like closing a book with a magnet lol, they get along fine without them!!!!
[Moto G General] eddiem74:
Any update from moto care?
[Moto G General] helppme:
still waiting. Sent them a chaser..ill update
[Moto G General] jlmcr87:
Thank you for contacting Motorola.

We regret that there is no possible solution. Compasses operate by magnetic field, and any interference with any compass magnet. There is no way around this.

If you are using a Motorola original case, rest assured that will not hurt your terminal. Imam to close the lid affects the compass but not strong enough to damage the terminal or delete any internal memory power. We apologize for the inconvenience.
[Moto G General] helppme:
I don't understand, are you saying you work for motorola? was this a response you got from motorola??

Motorola cannot release an OFFICIAL ACCESSORY!! at a premium price (£20) that causes issues for the core functionality of the device. I will press the issue with motorola until they acknowledge their mistake and resolve to provide me with a refund, equivalent compensation or a replacement back cover that doesn't cause these problems.

Imagine if you bought a New car; You bought official seat covers for your car that the manufacturer heavily marketed to you, but they make the satnav useless. Do you think any car manufacturer would ever get away with this??
[Moto G General] jlmcr87:
This is the response from Motorola.
[Moto G General] ryan92084:
As long as the flip shell is folded completely over (so it is flush with the back) my wife's compass works flawlessly. It's actually better than my n4. As I only have one sample to go off of I'm not saying this issue is being over hyped but it isn't always an issue
[Moto G General] helppme:
I've tried it this way. If you fold it completely flat, and line it up to the millemeter, the compass works about 50% well. It generally adjusts to north, but it flicks back and forth between north and where the magnet is on the case. You can also see the gauss meter jumping around a lot.

I suspect the magnetic power of the magnets in the case vary a large amount they wont be very expensive ones after all..
[Moto G General] wildestpixel:
Are you presently on or planning a trip into the antarctic or Himalayas ?

Nice case or compass on benefits or student orientated blower ?

Im on JSA and happy.
[Moto G General] spannerz:
Unfortunately manufacturers seem to do this sort of thing all the time and get away with it. I agree that the case should not affect the compass but I suspect they either overlooked it or decided it wasn't a big enough problem to worry about.

They may discretely modify the flip case in future production runs of course whilst never admitting a problem exists
[Moto G General] Korumera:
Bought a Moto G yesterday and a Flipcover today and got that little issue also but I don't mind it that much to be honest. When using google maps I hardly use the compass itself so it's no biggie for me but I have to admit it's bit of a screw up from motorola :)
[Moto G General] helppme:
I'm actually on a geological survey near the north pole. Given the rising price of energy and oil we need to discover new untapped reserves. Fracking won't do the trick as its economically negative. Without a decent discovery, we will never afford to keep the workshy on JSA so I'm pretty well motivated.

No offence but if you are on JSA imo even a 100 quid phone is too expensive. You could have bought an alcatel for 9.99 and spent the £90 left to buy a new suite and a pair of shoes.. just saying...

I'm joking really, but the point I was making was that it is the principle of the matter. Just because something is inexpensive, doesn't mean a company can sell something that doesnt work as described. If it simply didn't include a compass at all, for the price I paid I'd be totally happy with that. But if they are gonna include it, it shouldn't be broken by one of their own, official accessories. It's just common sense...
[Moto G General] wildestpixel:
I was joking ! On JSA I sold my BB Z10 which O2 had gifted me and funded my Moto G from Tesco.

All seriousness though - for some the issue of the magnet needs to drop - yes it happens but the amount of resource a company puts to these matters is negligible and shniz will happen - they will sell things that aren't great.

As far as workshy goes I wished I was back in employment more than life itself. Its a bad place to be when you have worked for 23 years without a gap and end up being so specialized in a niche there are no jobs around for you.

I'm 110% with you on the fracking idiocy.
[Moto G General] helppme:
yea I know I have people I know who are incredibly qualified but there are just no jobs. And what few jobs there are (minimum supermarket/petrol station/telesales) you won't even get an interview for because they say you are overqualified! Something has to change in this country and soon! I've had it with the governments past and present just inflating houseprices, encouraging people to live off debt and giving back handers to their already rich mates... ho hum.. it sucks huh.

I kind of agree about companies just doing whatever, but these cases cost 20% the value of the phone, so they must have a huge margin. Even if people don't really care, motorola should be held to account by customers to keep them honest (ish). The only other example I could think of is if porsche made a budget car, that didnt work quite right and just told everyone; 'its cheap, what do you expect, shniz happens'. It's almost as if these companies rely on people apathy to rip us off. It's not right, especially when we have real inflation running at nearly 10%. £20 really matters to some people...
[Moto G General] helppme:
Moto aknowledged the problem.

They sending me a normal shell case as an apology and will advise if they find a fix.

I have also used a sharp knife to cut the large magnet out of my flip case. It's pretty seemless, not perfect.. But im happy I guess.
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Hmm where are you from?

Sent from Samsung Chat
[Moto G General] helppme:
Earth. Welcome. :)

sorry, bad joke.

UK
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Nice ....Well we do need more consumer protection laws in India

Moto g is a Super Hit here though
[Moto G General] TJKV:
Just fyi, normal compasses are generally useless in the poles ;)
[Moto G General] Xin_TiGeR:
Hello, i ve bought a flip cover also but my intentions with the case are a bit different!

i only want the back of the case, because of the rugged feel instead of the original sweety and slipery back case..

so im gonna cut the flip cover off.. if i stay only with the back cover does it harm the phone also? or the magnets are only located at the front?

thx in advance, and sorry my bad english, errr.. im not from this planet :p

Enviado do meu Nexus 7 utilizando Tapatalk
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
There are back covers available for that Right?
[Moto G General] drfr:
Geez, what?

There are simple shells (not flip ones) with the same rugged feel and they are almost half the price! (e.g . Amazon).
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Some people like it that Hard way!!

Sent from Samsung Chat
[Moto G General] Xin_TiGeR:
are there? can you send me the link plz?

because the simple back cover with colors are the same texture the original one!

Enviado do meu Nexus 7 utilizando Tapatalk
[Moto G General] akil3x:
I like too see that case, where??? :)
[Moto G General] helppme:
There are not cases the same as the flip. THey are diferent, however cutting the flip off is pretty foolish imo.

In answer to the question:

>The magnets are in the front cover, so you would have no problems.

>The back cover is not symetrical, it has an indentation to make room for the hinge, if you cut the flip off really carefully, you will still be left with an 'edge' that will catch on everything and by annoying imo. Also, it will look pretty bad.

>The flip case is about 2mm fatter than the normal shell, to make room for the hinge etc. Why have a fatter phone, when the only reason for it, is for the flip cover you are going to remove!

I suggest sticking with the normal back shell, and buy a gell skin for it. The phone will end up a similar size to the flip case with the cover cut off, and will also have the rugged feel you want without looking horrendous..
[Moto G General] pr.itdude:
So whats the call?

I don't wan to mess up my phone and i do sometime use google maps for navigation. How bad is it to use these moto flip covers?

But at the other side, I really liked the finish & back texture, grip of original motorola flip cases. I am sure other local ones which might be available after 1 month would not be as good as these are.

Should we go for it or not?:confused:
[Moto G General] firegoblin:
I used one for a month and had zero problems with it. I use maps all the time and never had one issue. Some people just want to gripe and complain about everything
[Moto G General] helppme:
It is a real problem and will affect all flip cases. I had it confirmed by Motorola. However, it only affects the compass so maps and navigation will work fine for driving etc. It will cause problems for on foot navigation however as the compass is used to determine what direction you are facing. In the end I resolved this by cutting the magnet out, its pretty invisible that I did it, however buying the case with the intention of doing this is another matter.

However some people either don't understand what these problems are, don't understand that different people have different requirements. Or are just surley and bitter and like to whinge on forums about people having different views or experiences.

If u don't use maps for on foot navigation you prob won't notice the problem
[Moto G General] balamacab:
I resolve to take the magnet out; I liked the case a lot but shure was mising the comapss funcionality.

I try to use the stock case a week ago but miss the flip cover screen shuting down... so magnet out.
[Moto G General] Tech2Yantra:
Moto G Official Flip Case Magnetic design

Actually the design of the Official Magnetic Flip case is different from say a smart flip cover of Nexus 7 (2013) tablet;where the magnet is on the FLAP only.

If you observe, there is a magnet inside the back-shell of the Moto G flip case at the location of the Magnetometer(Hall-Effect sensor). I am not sure whether the FLAP is having a magnet or just a metal piece. So when flap touches the screen, due to the Magnetic attraction of magnet inside the shell, keeps the FLAP sticking to the screen (This attraction is not quite strong obviously because of no direct contact).

Also for the auto sleep/wake function to work, a significant "change of magnetic field" is required near the Magnetometer sensor. So If the flap indeed contains a small magnet, so it works that way. Hall-effect sensor are analog hard-wired switches which usually work in tandem with electronic switch to put-off/put-on the display.
[Moto G General] helppme:
You are totally incorrect. There is ONLY a magnet in the flap on the Moto G flip case. In fact there are 2, one to keep the phone closed (approx a 3rd of the way up the flap, from the bottom. There is a second smaller magnet 1cm or so higher that activates the screen (wake function)

The small metal square in the back shell is NOT a magnet, it is not magnetic, it is a cm Square piece of metal. I'm about 90% sure it is there to SHIELD the HALL sensor when the flap is folded back, it 'may' be to aid magnetic attraction when the flap is closed, but I don't think so. The flap 100% has a magnet in it and NOT a piece of metal.

This is correct, this is the function of the second small magnet. I can confirm this 100% as I have removed the large Magnet form the flap (hence I know it's a magnet!), the small magnet still activates the screen wake function with no problems.

I appreciate you trying to help, but I'm guessing you don't actually have the flip case and are just 'guessing' at how it is set up. Anyway, hopefully this is helpful to people who have this problem.

Solutions:

1.Different case

2.Dont use google maps for on foot navigation

3. Use sharp knife to cut large magnet out, if done carefully it's not very visible

cheers
[Moto G General] Tech2Yantra:
Thank you for putting some light onto the tech n design of the Moto G flip cover. Okay so the smaller magnet on the flap will do the screen sleep/wake job as usual.

What about the larger magnet on the flap? Where does it stick to on the screen? or is it the edge of the shell it is sticking to? [anything like Nexus 7, which has 4 circular metals inside to aid sticking of magnets embedded in Qi charge]

I have seen the flap sticking is not quite strong. it comes off easily.

thank u.
[Moto G General] helppme:
ive not dismantled the phone, I suspect there is metal in the frame on one side, hence the weak magnetic close. OR it may be it is using the small metal square in the back of the flip case to hold it closed through the phone. This might explain why they used such a ridiculously powerful magnet in the flip case door. You are right, it doesn't stick closed very tight.
[Moto G General] dakshmay21:
Hi. I have a question. Does the magnetic sensor function wrongly only when you're using the case or does it get wrongly calibrated permanently? Will my phone be back to normal if I go back to some other case after using the flip case for a while?
[Moto G General] Buckster0978:
moto g

Wow I goes admit the moto g is awesome
[Moto G General] hmarques:
When I receive a call, the display won't turns on unless I open the case. Also, it's not possible to accept the call keeping the case closed.

Is there any solution to this?

I thought this might affect everyone, but read all the posts to found no one complaining. Is my phone working normally? :)
[Moto G General] pisherthefisher:
It would be great if someone could make an app where the volume up button accepts a call and volume down rejects it when the flip case is closed. (Maybe there already is an app)

Edit: on second thought I'm not sure if this is a good idea since you wouldn't be able to see whos calling before answering because your flip case is closed, lol
[Moto G General] sirtbhopal:
I returned my flipcase to flipkart after this concern in a day.

Seems like LenoRola is behaving like a cheap local Mfg company again.

even after so many complaints nobody bother to revert back, or if revert then the same jerk response.. "We are working on it" and will revert you back that "we can't do anything" Once the Product will be out dated as well out of market. A**H***s..
[Moto G General] FreddieVictory:
Moto G Compass Defective

I also have an issue with the Moto G compass. Stock case, so no magnetic issues. It is defective.

4.4.2 KitKat and new Google maps work fine when aligned north; when alignment is changed to 'driving direction up', it's totally wrong (90 degrees or more) and north points to the wrong direction. Alignment of the map is 'very' erratic at times and the map wobbles badly. Different locations in car or on bicycle produce the same erratic results. In my case the Google maps do not show driving direction at the top, but shows the map location moving from left to right or diagonal at random. North up works fine and GPS is very accurate and locks almost instantly. Turn by turn also works very accurately. Very irritating issue and I am getting a Motorola G replacement under warranty.

The issue with the magnet cover does not apply to me (I don't have one), but I can attest to the compass being broken. I recommend taking the magnetic cover off and then drive with GPS and Google maps and verify that the magnet is really the only problem. I downloaded some compass apps and they also show my compass way off and erratic.

Freddie
[Moto G General] Minervamc:
nice share.Very good. :good:
[Moto G General] mortrackz:
Really glad i read this before buying the case. I'll stick with the Ringke slim shell i purchased from amazon. Its not a flip case. It is a snap on shell design that's extremely thin and comes with a free screen protector for $9.99. Comes in white or black. It's also consistent with the moto g design.
[Moto G General] galv.amiais:
Is this issue only present with the official cover or other flip covers that you can find in ebay/amazon also present the issue?

Thanks
[Moto G General] szymko1995:
Only magnetic flip covers.

Wysłane z Moto G
[Moto G General] galv.amiais:
Thanks, I will avoid buying magnetic flip covers then.
[Moto G General] MikusP:
Video!

Hey XDA!

Judging from the post dates in this thread this seems to be old news by now, but I have only just discovered this issue for myself so figured some video proof was in order!

Here’s a little video demonstration along side an iPad 5th generation (also fitted with a magnetic flip cover, but showing no interference) detailing the issue caused by the extremely strong magnets fitted in the Official Motorola Moto G Flip Case.

Recalibrating the compass will temporarily solve the problem, but…only temporarily!

http://youtu.be/4oioHh_8_Zk
[Moto G General] Kwen:
On the Moto G LTE, I can't use photosphere and the Spotlight player :(

Gonna take out the larger magnet..
[Moto G General] Calomax:
Any more news on this?

As Motorola has fitted a weaker magnet on the cases for the second generation Moto g, does anyone know if the first generation ones still have the strong one that messes with the compass?
[Moto G General] Tani2:
This video is private.

Sorry about that.

Purpose of sharing link if we can't see it? :)
[General Questions and Answers] manpreet08:
I Have "Karbonn Titanium S5+"

Android 4.2.2

My friend tried to update some custom recovery on it by Total Commander and after that it is not starting, it flashes the logo "Karbonn" and swithes of and vice versa. I take this to Software Expert he tried some tools on it like "Volcano", "Miracle Box" etc. but it did not start even now it shows no Karbonn logo, now it shows only black screen and when I try to connect it with PC only a connectivity sound plays and nothing happens to the device.

PLease give any solution if anyone have this problem sorted out.

Thanx in advance.
[General Questions and Answers] manav113:
You may have bricked your s5
[General Questions and Answers] jamesjerss:
check here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2459150
[General Questions and Answers] manpreet08:
Not working

Brother I have checked this but this solution is not working on Karbonn S5 Plus it is for Karbonn S5

and as I have wrote above there is neither fastboot mode nor any recover options are available when I start it while pressing Volume up or Volume down keys

There is only Black screen

only a sound notification comes when i attached this to my computer

If the clues above mentioned are the adequate for any solution then I will strongly thankful for that.
[General Questions and Answers] kinetic_soul:
Try to obtain the boot.img, system.img and the kernel for your phone. The company would have released the source for your phone. And try to enter fastboot mode to flash those img files. If that doesn't work, then I'm sorry but unless there's some miracle of sorts, its not going to work.