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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] spaniolo:
[cuoted]

I guess a lot of people are like me, willing to pay for a premium handy but just not fans of these 5 inch phablets. It's hard to understand, how bigdogs like Samsung haven't figured this out yet, mini should mean same package just in a more handysized format. Traveling a lot I sometimes need to handle my phone quickly with only one hand, this can't be done easily with 5 inch and more.

I'd love if this phone could start a new trend of highend 4,3 devices. Also it's super nice to see that it has some tall top and bottom borders, so something to rest the fingers on.

I am sure roots and Rom's. are going to come shortly after it's release.

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let's hope so... I don't know when this is coming to USA but this will be what will replace my awesome galaxy S2. Glad Sony is stepping up the game in the handy phone area. I hope they get enough support to continue. they got mine for sure.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] crimson12:
This probably won't get an official release in the USA, at least not on a carrier (T-Mobile). Despite this, I'm praying they get it out soon so I don't fold and get the z1.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] perezagua8:
hey budys i was asking my self if the 4.3 screen will be a bit small when the navbar is on it. what do you think??
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] guap:
sadly I have to admit that I don't give a **** about e-waste :silly: yes, we have to find a solution but we're not going to solve this problem buying phone with non-removable batteries...

Anyway it's not a big deal about z1c, the provided battery shoul be enough for 1 day of work, when exausted IF I'm still keeping the phone we can buy anyway a battery, disassemble the phone and change it. Already did, we just need a proper disassembly guide lol
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
Maybe a little, but when it comes to multimedia and gaming the nav bar hides itself and you got the full screen available. I personally wouldn't mind if the screen was 4.5 inches. :)

I hate my 5" screen (galaxy s4) but the 4.7" from my previous phone (Gnex) was OK to me regarding one hand usability.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] noxlord:
Hmmm, no LTE 700 MHz Class 17 ... It's unlikelly that At&t will sell this phone. It will work nicely on Rogers in Canada tho ...

The magnetic charging port is cool but it still is a proprietary feature. I wish there was Qi Charging and an IR port. That would make the phone complete.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
Yes the port is proprietary, but at least they have had the same one on 3 different devices now, and will likely add a 4th there soon (Tablet Z1). And yes, I agree about Qi charging, that would have been an awesome inclusion.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Riyal:
I know what you mean since I also have a Nokia N900. :) In fact I still have it now.

But judging the size only on this phone is a mistake. I have also had phone like the Xperia Pro & HTC Mytouch 4g slide which is alot thinner than the N900 in terms of thickness. :D

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The IR Blaster thingy is just an optional want :D Just for the 2 reasons that

1. I currently own an HTC One with an IR Blaster.

2. I wasted my time learning all the IR SDK of Sony and HTC and develop apps and in the end having it waste just because they discontinued it for no apparent reason :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] noxlord:
Really ? that's a shame, I thought it was a nice feature. I miss my old Nokia phone that I could exchange files and contact info over IR. it was pretty handy.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] cc546:
Battery life of the Z1 Compact is about 4 hours longer than that of the Z1.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] eclyptos:
We don't know this yet. Z1 have bigger screen and bigger battery and Compact smaller screen and smaller battery so the time of using will be close to the same. I know there is no space to put bigger battery on Z1 Compact but do you imagine 3000mha on that phone? Will be something. A big improvement which will kill all the competition like iPhone, Samsung and more.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] guap:
remember that "smaller screen" = 45% pixel compared to z1, despite "smaller battery" = 70% compared to z1 ;)

I'm expecting a really good battery life on z1 compact
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paul-c:
I don't mind at all that the Z1 Compact is going to have a 720p screen. 1080p is overkill on a 4.3 inch screen. Besides, 1080p crushes battery on the ZL. I'm ok with a change. Excited that it'll be an IPS screen, too.

Sent from my Sony Xperia ZL
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] negrobembon:
WHAT!!!!???? what kind of voodoo does the Z1 compact do?

I usually get like 5 and half hours of screen time on this Z1

Unless youre talking about overall standby battery
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
No voodoo, but as others have said, a 720p screen only has about 45% as many pixels to light up than a 1080p display, this combined with the fact that most battery on a phone is drained by the screen probably means that the Z1 Compacts 70% as large battery (2300/3000) will last longer than its bigger brothers will.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheKingOfPain:
It actually depends on the phone status/task ongoing: no way the standby time is going to be better on the Compact, nor it's going to be with anything not involving screen time (ie music playback).

Official battery life specifics read as follows, bear in mind they're not really affordable, but they're at least comparable:

Z1 Compact

Talk time (GSM) Up to 10 hours**

Standby time (GSM) Up to 670 hours**

Talk time (UMTS) Up to 18 hours**

Standby time (UMTS) Up to 600 hours**

Standby time (LTE) Up to 550 hours**

Music listening time Up to 94 hours**

Video playback time Up to 12 hours**

Battery (Embedded) 2300 mAh minimum

Z1

Talk time (GSM) Up to 14 hours**

Standby time (GSM) Up to 880 hours**

Talk time (UMTS) Up to 15 hours**

Standby time (UMTS) Up to 850 hours**

Standby time (LTE) Up to 760 hours**

Music listening time Up to 110 hours**

Video playback time Up to 6.6 hours**

Battery (Embedded) 3000 mAh minimum

As you can see, Z1 C gets destroyed when we talk about standby time, but that's no surprise. I really don't get the Talk Time difference (10 hours in 2G, 18 with 3G on vs. 14 2G & 15 3G)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
I'm not surprised by those numbers, the Z 1 compact with the smaller resolution "wins" when it comes down to heavy display taks (video play back), but the difference in talk times seems like the former poster mentioned a bit odd. The bigger battery for sure comes in handy, in terms of lesser display heavy tasks but 94h of listening to music is still pretty good especially for such a "small" device.

At the end of the day would I have prefered full hd on a 4,3 inch device ? You bet but I also don't think the technology for something like this is there yet.

Wondering if Samsung, will provide an S5 compact now, my handy provider is already very happy with the preorders for this device maybe Sony has found a nice niche here, would be nice competition = good for customers.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheKingOfPain:
A FullHD on this would have impacted battery life big time. As it is, it can barely win against its bigger brother with screen-off tasks. And to think people now want 1440p screens (2k, or QHD), what for is beyond me.

You're right, though: Sony is making a huge statement about the 4.3" segment using high-end specs. I guess, as long as battery tech doesn't evolve enough, they should consider adopting low-energy solutions for their panels, just like Kindle Fire HDX with the LTPS technology.

And, maybe, use the E1 100dB stereo speaker to let us hear the phone ringing :D

This is what a 3000mAh battery can do on a 720p 6-incher powered by a Snapdragon 400 1.4 GHz Quad-core MSM8928

Talk time (GSM) Up to 14 hours**

Standby time (GSM) Up to 1071 hours**

Talk time (UMTS) Up to 24 hours**

Standby time (UMTS) Up to 1046 hours**

Standby time (LTE) Up to 897 hours**

Music listening time Up to 93 hours**

Video playback time Up to 10 hours**

Battery (Embedded) 3000 mAh minimum

This is the new Sony D5303, also known as T2 Ultra.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] eclyptos:
Ok but it's not enough and you don't get my point, T2 have 6 inches screen which is the main reason of battery drain because like you said they don't use a low-energy panels. BTW still a good phone but it's not a big deal and Z1 still much better, less screen and more power.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] FinalIME:
Are there any differences for the camera to the full size Z1?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] benj0219:
Not according to the specs.

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
HTC one mini 1800mAh 4.3"

Galaxy S4 mini 1900mAh 4.3"

Z1 Compact 2300mAh 4.3"

We got no reasons to complain about battery or expect a 3000mAh fellows.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] negrobembon:
Those minis suck in all aspects when compared to the Z1 compact, theyre not even close
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
Seems that you missed the point (even clearly stated). Two popular phones with the same SCREEN SIZE got batteries up to ~20% less power. 2.300mAh is great for a 4.3" phone.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paul-c:
Does anyone know if the Z1 Compact that's being released overseas will work with AT&T LTE? It's model D5503. I'm trying to figure out if it needs LTE band 700. Every other band from my ZL is accounted for except 700.

Sent from my Sony Xperia ZL
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] noxlord:
No, There is no lte band 13 or 17 (700mhz) on the Z1C

Also, would people stop speculating about the battery life ? This phone is virtuyal;ly the same as the Xperia Z1f, already in sale in Japan. It already been demonstrated that the batery life is better than Z1.

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Sony...s-compared-to-Apples-bread-and-butter_id50741
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Option58:
Now the question is...Is 4.3 too small?

I wanna feel comfortable and be compact and the same time :\
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
That's a matter of personal taste, 4.3 is confortable to me but there are people out there that say the same for 6"+ prone.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] negrobembon:
Yeah, for me anything from 5" to 6" is in my comfort zone
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paul-c:
Damnit. Alright, thanks.

Sent from my Sony Xperia ZL
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheKingOfPain:
Why would we stop discussing? It's a forum. It is indeed the same as Z1f, and has better battery life for anything concerning screen usage, but as you can see from the official data a bigger battery lasts more in standby and during screen-off activities (music playback and such). I still don't get how talk time can be so different, maybe the system itself is better optimized in some instance, worse in others. However, 2300 mAh is still a big battery for a 4.3". Now, I only wish they are using a better loudspeaker.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] FinalIME:
How about replacing the battery - which is a criteria for me selecting a new phone?

How much does it cost to get replaced on similar phones?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheKingOfPain:
Do you mean having it done, or DIY? I don't know what a customer service could charge you, the only thing I'm sure is spare parts are cheap (Z1 3000mAh official battery costs 23 euros)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] guap:
so seems that you are in the wrong "waiting thread" :silly:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] FinalIME:
Not done yet, just curious since my actual phone allowed to change the battery myself (had to change after 2 1/2 years).
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] thermalboyz:
Xperia Z1 Compact retail packing and more pictures.

Source Link at http://www.xperiablog.net/2014/01/19/xperia-z1-compact-retail-packaging-spied/

http://www.digi-wo.com/thread-12893-1-1.html
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] samreedy:
just ordered mine for phones4u in the UK should get it on the 31st, so next friday :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paul-c:
What color did you go with? Also, I'm jealous.

Sent from my Sony Xperia ZL
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] samreedy:
a black one mate

my HTC one x screen keeps messing about (what happens when you replace it yourself...)

and has 3 months left to go on that

but I got £100 cash back for going through work (quidco do a similar thing but only offered £75)

and getting myself a free bluetooth speaker thing worth 100 quid aswel
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] samven582:
Is this phone coming out in the US?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] monkeydrufy:
tuned, I think I'm gonna take itthe first week of february

Hope to see root asap :laugh:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] paul-c:
Sony hasn't said.

Sent from my Sony Xperia ZL
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] BCH/HTC:
This mobile embodies everything I want in as device. Solid build, good looks, and both capable on the HW & SW end. I have the HTC ONE, but I miss the days of having a device in my pocket & not reall noticing it.

I have heard though that the T Mobile version will have a locked boot-loader and a plastic fram as to not interfere with its radio frequencies.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] eclyptos:
Electric Green! :D

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It's remind me like Apple did with iPhone 5c, from Aluminium to Plastic.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] BCH/HTC:
Indeed.

I find it hard to believe that in this day & age, T-Mobile couldn't find a workaround to the antenna issues to keep the premium feel to this device. I will get an unlocked international version. Glass & Aluminum coupled with plastic and a locked boot-loader would leave a bad taste in my mouth.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] eclyptos:
That for sure.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] DooMLoRD:
this should be of interest to you guys

[D550X] CWM-Based Recovery 6.0.4.6 + ROOT for Xperia Z1 Compact

@OP

can you add this to OP?

regards,

DooMLoRD
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ziich:
not not really. apart from the smaller form factor you will be paying again for what you already have. i would personally stick with the z1 and wit for the flagship that comes out in the later half of the year
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] samven582:
There is no T mobile version of the compact :confused: Do you mean the Z1S?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] BCH/HTC:
You are right...my bad.

The video I was indeed the Z1s for T-Mobile.

Now hopefully some US carriers pick up this device as it will be the same as international versions.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] guap:
which issues?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kirdroid:
Probably it will sometime come to Sony stores.. Don't think it will come to the useless carriers.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] samven582:
I hope it come out with LTE.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kirdroid:
Yeah... weird that they sell the Z1 in USA without LTE and Z ultra with LTE. So not sure what they will do with the compact if they device to sell in their store.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] dramez:
I'm waiting for the black one. I placed my order two weeks ago still using Alcatel One Touch Fire with Firefox OS. It's a nightmare!

I see Z1C has similar dimension to my last Xperia T - I put "her" on the ground :(

Everything in configuration and in a theory looks perfect for me and I hope Z1C be with me for a long time.

I'm only little afraid about screen. Z1f in Japan has two different types of screens (IPS & something similar to TN). I hope for the Europe Sony sells only IPS versions.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] AK4TAY7BEN:
I'd rather buy it from the Sony store. The carriers mess everything up anyway.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Nimche:
They were probably in talk with tmobile way ahead and didn't want to destroy it for them by releasing an ATT LTE phone. I am still on ATT but European version of Z1 Compact should work on tmobile LTE since it covers the band 4.

Can't wait to compare it to z1 in person.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] maolinho:
Sharp AQUOS Serie mini SHL24

There's another device coming up that folks enjoying small(er) high end devices will love: Sharp outs Aquos mini SHL24 with the smallest 4.5" 1080p display, ultra compact EDGEST design (posted on phonearena.com, but I can't add the link).

It's featuring Full HD, with a smaller frame than the Z1C! :D

Too bad we have to wait a bit longer, and it'll start Japan-only, so I might still end up buying the Z1C instead.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] thermalboyz:
Sony Xperia Z1 Compact "UNBOXING VIDEO" - RUSSIAN

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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
Thank you for the heads up just read it here, this think is also a beauty http://www.phonearena.com/news/Shar...p-display-ultra-compact-EDGEST-design_id51676

but there are (obvious) trade offs compared to the Z1 compact, the battery is smaller 2130 versus 2300 and it has to power a full HD 1080p display so I guess it will only last a full day if heavy used.Having said that, 489 ppi in a 4,5 device is just wow the text has to be sharper than sharp.

Other than that, I'm more than happy to see companies realizing the market of smaller but still highend smartphones about time. Sharp and Sony are for sure giving the Samsung Mini a lot of catchup to do.

Anyway, the amount of preorders for the Z1C in my clique is already quiete high, really looks like Sony has started a new and long overdue tr end here.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Option58:
This is what really got me excited about Z1 Compact!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
Thanks for the comparison it might be just me but I think the Z1compact looks sharper from that angle?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jonmorris:
If anyone already has a Z1 then I've got a how to guide on how to turn it into a Z1 Compact...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jyiJYxAiIoE&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Also, here's a look at the viewing angles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sk79-Stx4wc&feature=youtube_gdata_player
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] dramez:
Hahahah great hint! And you are lucky. Most people must still waiting for the Z1C.

Regards
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
How did you manage to get one yet ? Thought release would be in februrary
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jonmorris:
I was given one by Sony to review, which I will be doing in the next week. Sadly, rather too many people have done reviews when I know the devices were only issued last Tuesday and Wednesday. If anyone thinks that's enough time to do a proper review, well... (I guess it's all about page impressions at the end of the day).

First impressions are good though; it's a lovely little phone and the best aspect of it is the lack of compromise (bar the 720p screen and a smaller battery). The screen is lovely. Really high contrast and deep blacks - and it doesn't look low res at any time.

So far, since having it only on Friday, the battery is outperforming the Z1 too. My battery app says I average around 19 hours on the Z1, which is still damn good - but it's saying I'll get nearer 25-26 hours on the Z1 Compact - and that was with 2.5 hours of screen time, and taking some videos and stills that I will be publishing soon.

Two videos: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TL9PgDWaIc / http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7V1aLkdfrc

Stills will be on my blog in a gallery later.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] gopiraj_m:
Great man!

People are awaiting your review and I'm sure most of them would base it before they get it.

I don't know how the battery performance is implied, although seems much of theoretical.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] vid200:
I think all of us reading this Z1 compact discussion know, the phone has no competition right now, meaning compact form with high specs and camera. the only thing I am waitting for is battery performance... I went form SGS4 to Iphone 5S and I can't describe how much easier I handle the phone and screen with one hand now. Also SGS4 battery was great, Iphone lasts about half as much. I know SGS5 will be a beast, but I think I don't want to go back to that big screen world. I never droped 5S, while SGS4 kept droping from my hand, And I don't have small hands, I would say medium. My wife has to hold it with both hands all the time, the SGS4 which she has. Thank god it is insured,

Overall, when I saw Compact specs it was like "wow" moment. Finaly, back to android, the limited IOS7 makes me so mad sometimes, Going back and not facing big screen. The primary use for phone for me is talking, email and some web with sms, Android is far more customization ready, something I like. I don't want to go into IOS android duscussion, I just wanted to say, I was really missing something smalll and handy and with Compact I can see my future phone much clearly than a few months ago. The only two things that keep me waiting from ordering it right now is a good review with battery life and new Galaxy S5 specs. I hear they will sell it in bundle with new Galaxy Gear, which would mean I could use the phone with the watch, I kind of like that thought. Like something from the future...

So please colleagues, let's share links to other reviews so we can read about the phone and how it behaves.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheKingOfPain:
Good to hear about battery life. Now, the only thing that bugs me is loudspeaker volume. God knows how many notifications/calls I've lost on my Z before changing the Fusion3 file with a modded one.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] kirdroid:
Get a Pebble.. You will never lose any notification or call again :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jonmorris:
Yeah, another vote for Pebble from me. One of the best things I bought in 2013.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheKingOfPain:
Thanks for your kind advice, but I'd really like my phone to do what it is supposed to without spending any other money for gadgets. Plus, I hate wearing watches.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] chch:
Great phone this.

It's weird all the size comparisons to the Xperia Z1 etc. This phone supersedes the Xperia Acro S. If people want a bigger screen then buy another phone. I have an 8 inch tablet and don't see the need for a 5 inch phone.

It is a great improvement on my Acro S. I can use my Acro S with one handed texting but pressing a key in the top left sometimes records the screen touch of my palm in the bottom right. There is about 5mm less in width and sides to get your hand around on the Xperia Z1C but I hope they have better catered for one handed use.

There is only one browser on the Z1C and i is Chrome. I hope Chrome on Android has a full screen mode that will hide the Android navigation buttons (no capacitive buttons on the Z1C) and allow all the screen to be used for browsing.

There is a bunch of talk about the battery and screens being a huge part of the usage. I wonder if the Android battery usage stats for screen battery usage only show the backlight usage (which would have nothing to do with pixel quantity and all about the size of the space being lit) or does it include the effort in refreshing pixels (which seems more like a CPU/GPU thing).

By the way my Acro S is still much better than the latest HTC and Samsung Mini models because not having wideband voice (HD voice) is like having an stale electronic sounding conversation rather than the feeling of a real conversation. There is no going back once you have used/heard it. Its been a long time waiting for an Acro S replacement.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Riyal:
:D Xperia Z1 Compact is going to be available next week on 3rd party resellers here in my country. Haha!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] thermalboyz:
Added CNET and PhoneArena Review

Added CNET and PhoneArena Review
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
Great reviews, thanks for posting it.

Personally I'm just waiting what the SGS 5 will offer. One thing is for sure, for someone who doesn't want to go 5 inch, 5,25 inch isn't even a possibility so either their mini version is finally just that or Z1c is the way to go. Another thing is, I really don't 2560 x 1600 since my monitor can only do 1920 x 1080.

The camera and video quality is just :angel:
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Jotamide:
I am crossing my fingers this will come to Canada. If not then eff it, I shall import.