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[Xperia Z1 General] snobrdr2324:
No carrier except a couple of old metroPCS phones use LTE voice. On CDMA networks like sprint/verizon, you are connected to CDMA voice and LTE data simultaneously. So when you make a call it goes over 3g and LTE stays active on a different radio allowing you to do voice and data at the same time. On GSM networks like ATT/Tmobile, there is no need for 2 radios since 3g can handle data as well as voice on one radio, so when you make a call it just disables LTE allowing you to still use voice and data which is built into the network inherently, where as CDMA carriers have to over come the voice/data simultaneously by having 2 radios active.
[Xperia Z1 General] 0000alex0000:
I think it's Sony that disappoints other carriers too much with their ****ty 2012 models, especially the ion, but yea, AT&T is idiot for not giving Sony a second chance
[Xperia Z1 General] randaddy:
Yes! The charging LED is ridiculous. I think someone just forgot to turn off the green led in the code, nothing a software patch can't fix....when that patch will come is another story!
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
Yeah, I hate the charging LED though since I have the tech21 case on it, the flap can only go one way so my phone is facedown for charging until I get a stand. I'm not sure if I want to get a stand though since I'd have to deal w/ the blinding bright green LED when charging overnight...
[Xperia Z1 General] chrisram88:
Hahaha that LED light is annoying

Sent from my C6916
[Xperia Z1 General] Kanes_Inferno:
Went and played with the Z1s in the local Tmobile store tonight and wow. Definitely thinking about making the switch from Sprint for this phone.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
You should since tmobile is paying your termination contract free :D
[Xperia Z1 General] twoeleven99:
I made the jump from sprint to tmo for this phone yesterday. enjoying the device so far. Very beautiful phone

Sent from my Nexus 7
[Xperia Z1 General] jahjah440:
I'm very impressed with the battery. I have 5 hours of on screen time and have been not charged in over 24 hours, yet I still have 55% battery left!!
[Xperia Z1 General] PhxGuy:
Absolutely love my phone!! Nothing like running cold water over it while running benchmark tests to up your friends! Maybe even boost scores?... I have no screen issues what so ever! It's not yellow and has great viewing angles. I do hope minor tweaks get made whenever kit kat is pushed out, like camera and LED fixes. Other than that I would totally recommend this as a BUY NOW, unless you wanna wait for the compact to hit the US. I might try and "jump" when the z1 compact get realeased.

C6916 quad-core BOSS
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
Have you tried going to display settings and setting the white balance to 100 for the blue? See if you notice a difference. I didn't think my screen had the yellowish tint/color but when I changed that setting, you can definitely notice the difference. Definitely like it better than stock.
[Xperia Z1 General] PhxGuy:
i've been back and fourth on wether i actually see a yellow tint... I have even compared my phone to my friends iphone5s and another friends Note3. I still dont really see a yellow tint, but i did move B to 30 to better match blues and whites in the two before mentioned phones. I used the facebook app we all had installed to help calibrate white balance. Overall i love this phone, especially the cam!
[Xperia Z1 General] recharged95:
I see a yellow tint on high brightness, especially at specific viewing angles. B>25 on white balance does the trick, but auto brightness does better at b=0.
[Xperia Z1 General] magnus0322:
I must be the only one that thinks B>25 makes everything look terrible. I sent myself the gray scale from the Z1s white balance app by email... I used my Nexus 7 screen and tried to match my Z1s to it.

R:21

G:101

B:17

Those seemed to match the closest and to me it looks almost as good as the Nexus 7 2013 screen. Any thoughts?
[Xperia Z1 General] PhxGuy:
I tried the 21, 101, 17 setting and it looks like the default but a lil washed out. Colors are the most vibrant with R&G at 0 and B from 20-30. IMO

C6916 quad-core BOSS
[Xperia Z1 General] magnus0322:
I don't know about washed out but in my opinion I prefer accurate color reproduction over vibrant colors, especially when watching movies or viewing photos.

Anandtech reviewed the Nexus 7 2013 and found the display to be on par with the iPad which is well known for it's accurate color calibration right out of the box. To me the settings seem to be pretty close, but again, to each their own :D

http://www.anandtech.com/show/7231/the-nexus-7-2013-review
[Xperia Z1 General] inteltecra1700:
[/QUOTE]I own both devices and here are my thoughts.

(1) The signal on the Z1s is superb. In areas where i get 2-3 signal bars on the Z1, the Z1s give 5 bars.

(2) Battery life is the best i've seen on any Sony Smartphone. It's also better than the Note 3 and G2 (from my hands on experience) I get about nearly 2 days of battery life with 7+ hours of screen time and hard use. (video calls, video games, FB, What'sapp) -- Teh Z1 will give about 1 & 1/4 Day with 5+ hour screen time

(3) The screen doesn't compare to the Z1. It's more washed out and has less blacks - you have to use white balance settings -- this helps a little.

(4) The build of the Z1s is a joke. it's plastic and not glass and aluminium like the Z1. The flaps don't rotate fully. If over rotated, the flaps will break.

(5) The redesign for the phone body has it's set backs i.e. shifting headphones to the middle and switching the micro SD with the charging port . T-mobile the retailer for the US has a monopoly on phone cases. only they have the cases that fit. none of my Z caes fit the Z1s.

(6) The Notification Light is poorly built. Depending on what angle you are looking the color of the Light changes (i.e. the circle that the LED lights are in allows for all the different colors to show. e.g. when charging and on orange - -the green and red LED shows at the corner. Also note that the LED is not in the speaker.

(7) The Z1s is lighter than the Z1 and has a less premium feel

(8) The Z1S has 16gbs more memory

(9) Z1s has different partitions and as such, getting into the device for rooting etc. is difficult even though kernel source is available)

Aside from battery life on the Z1s, it fails to exceed the Z1. in my opinion. I prefer the Z1. It's better built all accessories are available for the Z1 but not the Z1s and has much support is available for the Z1. No developer I know owns a Z1s ....Little to no support is available. Finally, all Z1s bootloaders CANNOT be unlocked.

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[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
I'm curious, why'd you get the Z1s if you already had the Z1 unless of course you sold it or it broke. It definitely does suck that the Z1s is a Tom US exclusive so the accessories will take a while to catch up and even then, it won't get to the level of the Z1. Not to mention dev support. Just want root and I'm a happy camper.
[Xperia Z1 General] Generalgr147:
I recently switched from Sprint LG G2 to the this phone, and I love it. I've messed around with the white balance, and agree that the default does feel a bit washed out. The waterproof piece is nice, helps me not panic as much if someone spills their drink on the table. I am missing root, which I've had on every device.

As for signal, I have only a few issues with the WI-FI cutting in and out (stuck on a university system so not much help there), but when it comes to mobile signal, no issues at all!

My only complaint, and please let me know if you have this too, is that text seems to vibrate about 2/3 of the way down on the screen. Reading inside multiple apps (Chrome/XDA/Pulse) the screen seems to just have the text vibrate. No idea why...
[Xperia Z1 General] inteltecra1700:
i got the Z1s because I bricked the Z1 -- I was flashing MONX Rom. As you may know there is an issue with .290 International Rom. I sent it back to Sony and they were kind enough to fix it. I will be returning the Z1s to T-mobile or selling it. I'm not elated by it. Like a said, it's superior battery life and great signal but that's not enough to outweigh it's downside. Keeping the Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] Kanes_Inferno:
I officially made the switch from Sprint for this phone tonight, so excited.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
How's the LTE compare to Sprint? Lol
[Xperia Z1 General] Kanes_Inferno:
I can hold a steady signal, that's nice. Feels like a whole new world, lol.
[Xperia Z1 General] magnus0322:
I made the switch from Sprint. LTE on T-Mobile kicks ass. Usually get at least 10 Mbps DL and 10 Mbps UL, a lot of times even higher. I never saw consistent speeds on LTE with Sprint, even in good cities like Boston, DC, Chicago, etc. So far T-Mobile LTE is fast even in NYC. The only thing is, I drop more calls on T-Mobile than I did on Sprint. Also, the coverage outside major metropolitan areas is terrible. Only having Edge or GPRS is a shame in this day and age, at least with Sprint I had a usable 3G connection in rural areas. Overall though I'm more than happy I made the switch. I've been using sensorly app to help map the network everywhere I travel to. I've mapped a lot of places so far that hadn't been mapped.
[Xperia Z1 General] Lancerz:
I just made the switch from Sprint yesterday also and got the Z1s and let me tell you, the LTE on T-Mobile completely destroys Sprint. First off I barely get 1 bar of 3g in my house with Sprint but full bars of 4G with T-Mobile. With Sprint I can get around 5-6 Mbps on average but I've gotten as low as 1-2mbps. This picture is of T-Mobile 4G inside my house...its insane!
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
Unfortunately T-Mobile bands aren't good at getting good signal inside buildings,that's why when you receive calls or make calls it falls back to 3G service. Don't worry tmobile just purchased some low band frequency from Verizon. Soon we will have voice over LTE voLTE. And you will get better signal. Tmobile upgrade their network real fast, in just one year they give almost every tmobile customers LTE. By the end of this year we will have voLTE.
[Xperia Z1 General] colts187:
No kidding. I got my wife this phone coming from at&t and she could barely get edge if service at all in her building at the school she works at. She gets full bars on LTE surrounding area... Even in the parking lot
[Xperia Z1 General] Josh McGrath:
You guys will be really happy when they get the new bands up then. We've had it in Dallas for a while and I never ever have problems indoors. Sprint was the worst ever about getting signal through buildings

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[Xperia Z1 General] Ame123:
I own both devices and here are my thoughts.

(1) The signal on the Z1s is superb. In areas where i get 2-3 signal bars on the Z1, the Z1s give 5 bars.

(2) Battery life is the best i've seen on any Sony Smartphone. It's also better than the Note 3 and G2 (from my hands on experience) I get about nearly 2 days of battery life with 7+ hours of screen time and hard use. (video calls, video games, FB, What'sapp) -- Teh Z1 will give about 1 & 1/4 Day with 5+ hour screen time

(3) The screen doesn't compare to the Z1. It's more washed out and has less blacks - you have to use white balance settings -- this helps a little.

(4) The build of the Z1s is a joke. it's plastic and not glass and aluminium like the Z1. The flaps don't rotate fully. If over rotated, the flaps will break.

(5) The redesign for the phone body has it's set backs i.e. shifting headphones to the middle and switching the micro SD with the charging port . T-mobile the retailer for the US has a monopoly on phone cases. only they have the cases that fit. none of my Z caes fit the Z1s.

(6) The Notification Light is poorly built. Depending on what angle you are looking the color of the Light changes (i.e. the circle that the LED lights are in allows for all the different colors to show. e.g. when charging and on orange - -the green and red LED shows at the corner. Also note that the LED is not in the speaker.

(7) The Z1s is lighter than the Z1 and has a less premium feel

(8) The Z1S has 16gbs more memory

(9) Z1s has different partitions and as such, getting into the device for rooting etc. is difficult even though kernel source is available)

Aside from battery life on the Z1s, it fails to exceed the Z1. in my opinion. I prefer the Z1. It's better built all accessories are available for the Z1 but not the Z1s and has much support is available for the Z1. No developer I know owns a Z1s ....Little to no support is available. Finally, all Z1s bootloaders CANNOT be unlocked.

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Hey frnd can you upload the full res sample images from sony that came with your z1s plzzz
[Xperia Z1 General] shook187:
I should let everyone know, by removing the anti shatter film on the Z1s, it won't remove the Sony logo. It's embedded on the glass and not on the film like the Z1. I removed it myself and I'm happy to say this greatly improves viewing angles.
[Xperia Z1 General] Kanes_Inferno:
Nice'
[Xperia Z1 General] jahjah440:
Anyone find a case for this phone? I can't pay $30 dollars for the two cases T-Mobile has available. I need my 5 dollar chinese case!
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
There's a pc case for pre-order on Amazon, black only but looks good, the photos look to be a Nillkin case but the description doesn't state that... it's $15 after shipping.
[Xperia Z1 General] Lancerz:
Hey, what cities have the new bands so far?
[Xperia Z1 General] Josh McGrath:
I don't know all of them but I know the Dallas market has had that spectrum for a long time. They mainly wanted it for Boston and a few other cities.

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[Xperia Z1 General] dragion:
I'm getting an average of 36Mbps here in Boston, MA
[Xperia Z1 General] magnus0322:
Tmobile is great in metropolitan areas but if you go away from those areas you are stuck with Edge or GPRS. It's a shame. I hope they update their towers soon and not just their major areas. Either way, WiFi calling is sweet, and it's been great when I fly to Canada.
[Xperia Z1 General] angryGTS:
Z1 has the same f2.0 aperture.
[Xperia Z1 General] samven582:
I know.
[Xperia Z1 General] natataka:
turning off charging light?

how do you turn that damn charging light off. i have a charging cradle and it really lights up the room at night. ive tried lots of different led notification apps, but non seem to work.

btw is ther a z1s specific forum for faq about the phone?

can you attach mutliple images when sending thru text?
[Xperia Z1 General] vlcano57:
Just ordered a Z1 6903 in white. Hoping I made the right choice I went back and forth on the Z1S and the Z1. I was appealed by the wider variety of cases for the Z1 and since Im rather accident prone and work in high speed/rugged environments I felt that was the right choice. Slightly set back by the lack of wifi calling but Im in an LTE metro area for tmobile so hopefully it wont kill me. Its been a year since I had wifi calling on my GS3, then went to Iphone 5, and currently using a Droid Maxx on Tmobile. I think the battery life will be close, obviously the Maxx probably winning, but thats expected. I will miss Qi charging, but I always had my maxx in a case and didnt leave it long because I was afraid of overheating.

Over all I hope I made the right choice on the Z1 vs Z1s. Any speaker differences in the two? That was my biggest turn off for both, the Droid Maxx (and Moto X) have wicked loud speakers which i absolutely cherish. I know it wont be anywhere near as good but I hope its at least acceptable. Any feedback on my choice is appreciated, Ill be holding onto the Maxx until I am taken with the Z1. The camera on the maxx is decent, but the camera on the Z1 was the taker for me. Is anyone having camera problems with either? I saw one or two threads about some sort of glare problem, but didnt seem like a wide spread issue.

Ill plan on investing in the Z2 or whatever they call it for a long term phone when its released. Until then, looking forward to giving this phone a chance.
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
IMHO, almost anything water proof won't have loud volume or great sound especially on a phone. Price to pay for being water proof. If you plan on using the speaker a lot especially in loud places, neither of the 2 phones would be a good choice.

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May have to wait for root for that... I hate it also so I charge face down though I have to anyway cuz of the stupid flap.
[Xperia Z1 General] Don_Perrignon:
The flaps can go either direction.
[Xperia Z1 General] Leo0407:
really not much difference

just the size and the back have much difference, as I know.
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
Not when u have the tech21 tactical case on it. Well technically u probably can but it'll stress it being at an angle.
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
I have Tech21 case the black one. It can go all the way around.
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
Yeah, I did say it could. The LED charging light just gives another reason to place it face down is all but to each their own.
[Xperia Z1 General] queefinout:
Can anyone tell me if the back glass has a screen protector as well? mine is all scratched up outta no where.
[Xperia Z1 General] gqukyo:
Yes, both sides have the anti shatter film, mine has a huge scratch as well but the actual glass should be fine.
[Xperia Z1 General] queefinout:
awesome thanks! I cut up about 3 iphone back cover screens to try and protect it haha. good to know.
[Xperia Z1 General] chriscosta77:
I just bought my Z1s about 5 days ago. Right out of the box I put on the ZAGG screen and backside protectors. The back is matte, and adds grip, so that's nice.

I'm finicky about color accuracy on my phone displays, coming from an iPhone 5. My girlfriend has the iPhone 5S, which is also a very accurate display. The colors and white balance on the Z1s display are appealing...but the gamma is all over the place with values ranging from 1.2 to 1.6, and they should be 2.2 for all colors. That being said, it is very nice display and imho, closer to "real life" than any flagship display out right now, except for the iPhone 5C/5S. Viewing angles are not a major deal breaker for me personally.

That being said, the camera drives me nuts. I was excited about the 1/2.3" sensor and G glass with BOINZ processing but the so-called "Superior Auto" is spastic at best. I wish I could select "Aperture Priority" as a mode with the full 20MP. As a flat smartphone camera, the hardware definitely has potential but the software seriously gimps the camera. I hope a firmware and software fix come in the near future from Sony.

Switching from at&t, I've noticed much better reception here in the Denver Metro area. Calls between my girlfriend and I sound so much clearer, almost like the HD voice in Facetime audio between iPhones. The Z1s has a very nice sounding earpiece but the bottom speaker is hindered by the waterproofing. But definitely loud enough to function for speakerphone.

Coming from a finely crafted machined device like the iPhone 5, the plasticky feel of the bezel was a bit disappointing but I'm used to it already.

Compared to my girlfriend's 5S, with similar usage patterns, and auto brightness, I have about 30% more battery at night when I'm going to bed and putting it on the charger than her iPhone.

I really like this phone and it's design. Sleek, flat and minimalistic. Loving the side power button placement and the dedicated camera button. Hold for instant access to the camera!

My only gripe is that the XReality/Bravia engine only work in the default Sony Album and Movie apps. It definitely adds some punch to visuals. It'd be nice to crank those up in MX Player.

I'm on Jump, so I will see what comes down the pipe for Tmo, but overall I'm pleased with this device. Its definitely got enough top shelf specs to be relavent for some time. At least with Sony adopting a 6 month flagship release schedule, I'll be able to pick and choose for the foreseeable future, a nice phone from them at my leisure.

Also, this phone needs root so that I can install greenify and Adaway would be awesome. I'm liking the choices Sony made for their Android skin...they took a light touch approach. Can't wait for them to release KitKat though!
[Xperia Z1 General] luckylaraib:
can i change the motherboard of z1s to z1?
[Xperia Z1 General] zzangu83:
No. You can not. They have all different parts.
[Xperia Z1 General] TheMidnightVinny:
Z1s is better for gaming

The Z1s is somewhere somehow in top 1 list of mobiles for gaming

Of course it's not, but my standard Z1 is pretty good tho... :angel:
[Xperia Z1 General] Spectre51:
You mean other carriers dropped the ball by not picking it up. Believe me Sony tried but AT&T are idiots.

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[Xperia Z1 General] vanillaskye21:
Z1 also has an f2.0 aperture as dpreview confirmed it
[Xperia Z1 General] ara.armagedon:
yea no, I was making two separate points.

The phone was not really worthy of CES and they also shouldn't have named it Z1"S", it's a 32 GB Z1 with a tmobile sign on the back
[Xperia Z1 General] Spectre51:
Well it's a good time to announce it for US customers to try and get them excited. The naming and stuff was probably all part of the deal when T-Mobile agreed to pick the device up. They all like to try and differentiate the devices they carry from the rest.

The 32gb is nice though.

Sent from my Sony Xperia™ Z Ultra
[Xperia Z1 General] nizarnoor:
And this blog post has got comparison pictures of the two as well:

http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/12/16/xperia-z1-refresh-launches-in-china-as-the-xperia-z1-l39t/
[Xperia Z1 General] nbell13:
Haven't seen anyone mention the stupid notification light on the Z1s, it's like the light on the z instead of being inside the earpiece like the Z1
[Xperia Z1 General] epsix:
WTH.....? Plastic frame? I'm tired of plastic with Samsung. F........k
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
This version is different... this is for china, slightly cheaper

the Z1s is more similar to Z1 with aluminum sides...

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you guys are confusing the products, to make it clearer here it is:

1. Z1s - T-Mobile version of Z1, everything the same except for 32 gb storage, different placement of 3.5mm jack and microsim and microsd slots.

2. Z1 compact - this is the 4.3 inch version of the Z1 720p

3. Z1 China - this is exactly the same as Z1s but with only 16gb storage and chrome plastic sides (instead of aluminum)
[Xperia Z1 General] 3vilhomer:
no way... plastic frame?!!

also will the Z1s have purple color??
[Xperia Z1 General] Morlock O:
read my post above you...
[Xperia Z1 General] 3vilhomer:
oo my bad... so Z1 china gets the cheap cheap plastic frame...

still hoping they will have a purple color
[Xperia Z1 General] Gitaroo:
Z1s is basically Sony re engineer version of Z1 for cheaper production and cost cutting to sell for higher profit margin if they keep the price the same or price cut. Just like PSP 1000 to PSP 2000, PS3 phat to PS3 super slim etc. Sony has a good reputation of doing cost cutting, normally their gen 1 product always has the best build quality PSP and PS3 are perfect example, but may pack with more flaws. PS2 early gen models suffers from DRE but the revision felt much cheaper overall. Vita 2000 is another perfect example, Sony is trying to apply the same thing to their phones. Not sure if its worth the time to re engineer since phones are not meant to stay in the market for 5 years + like their consoles.
[Xperia Z1 General] kantk20111:
That xperiablog post is the wrong device That is NOT the Xperia Z1S going to T-Mobile. That is a cheaper version for Chinese markets. The TMo Z1S announced today is almost exactly like the current international Z1, metal frame and all.
[Xperia Z1 General] Gitaroo:
right, on the sony site, I think there is some difference between batter life in the spec section.
[Xperia Z1 General] Spectre51:
Check again even the hands on from pocketnow.com talked about the plastic frame. They mentioned it was a carrier request from T-Mobile.

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