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[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
Hi Vaith,

That's truly personal. If you are happy with 5 inches there's absolutely no reason to change. There are guy's out there buying phones with 5.7" (Galaxy Note 3). The Ascend Mate 2 from Hauwey is 6.1" and there's a lot bigger than these. So... If you're ok with 5" and TFT keep it. Both are great phones.

My previous phone got 4.3, 4.7 (GNex) and now 5" (Galaxy S4) and I must say that 4.7 was a great experience but I deeply regret the day I bought the S4 with his 5" screen. I know that may sound weird 4.7" being great and 5" such a terrible experience but is just the way it is to me.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ajbattaglia83:
I'm pretty excited for this phone

Size

Camera

Waterproof
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] negrobembon:
Hard to believe that the demand for this phone is so high

People really wanted a premium mini phone i guess
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] brapicoco:
Hi Dude, how's your z1? I'm planning to get a z1 compact and just give my z1 to my mom. It's gonna be cheaper than the z1 and reports say that it even outlasts its bigger brother. Display wise and pocketability I'd go for compact.

I'm gonna get it at xtremegamesphils something like that, at Glorietta 3 since they offer 7 day replacement.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] samven582:
He doesn't know
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] hoderer:
Wow, that's a really great phone. Just what I was waiting for, BUT: I really hope there will be a good custom rom out there, since I don't really like Xperia stock roms (I'm totally used to CM). If yes, I'd totally buy it, but I guess it takes some time for the CM-developers. Does anyone know if Z1-custom-roms are easily portable to the Z1-compact (since the tech-specs are quite simular)? I know it isn't released yet, but maybe someone has a general idea and experiences with things like that.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Vaith:
Phone is not released yet so stop asking this questions.

Wysłane z mojego C6903 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Riyal:
Well it isn't really that hard to believe. I for one stayed on the mid range phone area for years before deciding on giving the big slabs a chance for the sole reason that I'm running out of options. But finally this phone made it and relived my passion on handyphones :D

All my past phones are 4.3 inches and the only large phone I got is the HTC One. But I say it's time to go back to the small ones hah!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] negrobembon:
Good for you! Personally i prefer large devices but it was about time an android manufacturer started making normal sized high end devices

Before the Z1 compact, every android smartphone of that size released before it was either mid range, low end or utter crap(Samsung gets a special mention on this one)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] rzlatic:
IMO, it's not "mini". the thing is - actual highend phones are made in skateboard sizes. z1 compact is just handy and optimal sized, not minimized - and i agree, people do want highend phone that's handy sized :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Revontheus:
I found root but only for 4.3 is there one for 4.4
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] thermalboyz:
So far I haven't seen one root exploit for 4.4 yet (Might be soon), however, you could rollback 4.3 use the exploit to root and flash 4.4 back. search for guide of 4.3 root
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] chch:
I put on the standard Z1Compact 4.4.2 update last night and my phone now has no GPS. GPS does not even appear as a Quick Options toggle. using the standard widget toggle does nothing. All software says that the GPS can not be found.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
On the whole I really like my Z1 Compact, but there are a few niggles which I hope will be fixed soon:

1: Apparent battery drain/10k per day wakelocks from com.sonyericsson.android.wakeup, Uses more battery than my screen.

2: ICS on this phone doesn't seem quite as smooth (homescreens, app drawer) as KK on my One X (4x 700MHz difference, and a better GPU in the Z1C!)

3: Can't get LTE on 3 in the UK: not sure why this is but there is a thread here on XDA stating it's a problem with the ROM. Updating to a European ROM solves this. It's not something I'm willing to do yet.Not sure if it's 3 with a slow rollout, or the handset. Nobody else I know has an LTE capable handset.

4: Not really getting on with the ASF: I haven't taken it off yet as I'm not sure how much sticky residue it will leave. I might try a tempered glass protector. I've actually found the touch to not be as 'good' (accurate? sensitivity?) as it was when I left the shipping film on!!

5: can't adjust the volume when it's locked. Pain in the backside when I get in to work or the cinema and have to activate screen, pattern unlock (see point above!!), then hold the vol- key, then screen off.

6: There's another but I can't remember it right now!

I know an update to a UK KK will hopefully solve 1,2, and 3. I might be able to fix 5 when I root. I'll experiment with 4....
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Darkimmortal:
4. There's only a tiny bit of residue left behind, and it's removable in seconds with isopropyl
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] zxz0O0:
2. There is no ICS firmware for this phone. Are you talking about JellyBean?

3. Did your previous phone have LTE?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
Yes, my mistake: JB.

My previous phone did not have LTE.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] zxz0O0:
Do you have LTE enabled in your contract? Did you buy a new SIM card with your phone? I had to get a new SIM card for LTE. I advise you to check with your carrier, I'm pretty sure using EURO rom won't fix the problem.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
My Z1C doesn't even have the option for LTE. My carrier and sim should be LTE capable, but I got the sim a couple of months ago.

Like I said, I'm not sure it's my phone or the network yet. Oily going by a thread I read on here.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] wingsfortheirsmiles:
1. I don't get wakelocks from this process on 4.4.2 however battery life seems to have got worse? :confused:

2. 4.3 was fine for me, 4.4.2 seems even smoother

3. Where are you in the UK? I'm in Reading and get LTE/4G from 3: this was the case with both 4.3 and now 4.4.2. Please ensure it is enabled in Settings --> Mobile Networks --> Network Mode and that "LTE (preferred)/WCDMA/GSM" is selected. You may alternatively activate it via the 4G quick settings toggle.

4. I've left the ASF on w/ a screen protector on top so I'm not sure on this

5. I can only change the music volume while locked when playing tracks using the volume button, however you can do this by waking the phone then holding the power button down to bring up the Power Menu. You can then select either silent on the left or vibrate at the bottom
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
I don't even have that option, there is no mention of LTE in my preferred network options.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
View attachment 2661632

See? No LTE. Can anybody else on 3 UK confirm please? Cheers!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jonmorris:
Yes, that's what you'll see unless you get an updated version of the software, or the SIM is updated so the flags stop it being hidden.

I just got the commercial/journalist FTF from here and flashed that. Now I have 4G, albeit with it saying LTE instead of 4G. No biggie.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
Ah great, someone to corroborate!

Do you know if three can update the sim, either in store or ota?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] wingsfortheirsmiles:
I think it has to be from the OEM side - I'm sure I got it on 4.3 at some point... is there the option to add LTE to the quick toggles? I admit is wasn't overly clear but I definitely got it straight away when I flashed the KK Commercial firmware
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jonmorris:
Three didn't do SIM updates in the end (not that they ever actually said they would, it was just assumed by many, including myself).

They simply added all the IMSI numbers (SIM ID) to allow them to register on 4G, and then updated the firmware on a lot of handsets to enable the option when a Three SIM was inserted. Likewise, you should find that once done, you lose the ability to select 2G/GSM only.

You can add a 4G (or LTE) toggle to the quick settings on both 4.3 and 4.4.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] wingsfortheirsmiles:
Ah ok then it's a two step process. That might explain why I could get 4G on my Moto X but when I switched the SIM out to the Z1C I had to wait for a few weeks before I could get it on that handset.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
Sorry, bit lazy but this is for my own reference really. OT: but it might be useful to others too!

http://talk.sonymobile.com/t5/Xperi...ion-in-Network-Mode-Option-Screen/td-p/599247

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2633924

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=35910775
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] jonmorris:
Yes, the quickest option is flash tools and a different ROM. Problem solved and no need to wait.

It's easy to change back to the UK one later on when it's updated. All without losing any data.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
I found if I power up with no sim in, the option for LTE exists. Phoning 3 customer services, I was told I'll receive a text with update details to allow 4g. I smell shi*e!

If I get the guts I'll flash on Thursday night!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Bossk128:
OK successfully flashed the central European fw and now have the option for LTE, great!

However I've also got the update for kk in this fw. If I update to kit kat does that stop me from reloading my backup fw?

I know on my hox when bootloaders etc were updated old backups were hard to apply.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] zike47222:
Easy root

Hey has anyone found a easier way to root? Like just flashing a rooted official ROM with flashtool or something? I don't have the Internet time to do the whole root process and now with KitKat available it would be nice to root befor updateing.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Arup ZR:
Check DxO mark rating of SONY's Z2 camera which is same as Z1's, it says otherwise to what your belief is about NOKIA. Btw last time I checked all major camera makers including NIKON and CANON use SONY's sensors, the 36MP Nikon D800 is one such example, since when did NOKIA start making professional sensors and cameras and broadcast equipment?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] strahl2e:
Z3 torch shortcut

Just to add to that, the z3 compact has a nice shortcut in the 'Quick settings' menu. Note that you need to edit the menu and add the torch.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] guap:
agree, "mini" "compact" "optimal sized" are matters of words... we're all glad sony did this < 130mm phone ;)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] lawfalse:
cant wait to buy this phone :D adreno 330 on 720p display and snapdragon 800 :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] The MBG:
I'm

definitely

interested in this. On paper it ticks all the boxes.

In general, how are Sony's 'smaller' phones for call and audio playback speaker volume?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
I guess a lot of people are like me, willing to pay for a premium handy but just not fans of these 5 inch phablets. It's hard to understand, how bigdogs like Samsung haven't figured this out yet, mini should mean same package just in a more handysized format. Traveling a lot I sometimes need to handle my phone quickly with only one hand, this can't be done easily with 5 inch and more.

I'd love if this phone could start a new trend of highend 4,3 devices. Also it's super nice to see that it has some tall top and bottom borders, so something to rest the fingers on.

I am sure roots and Rom's. are going to come shortly after it's release.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] negrobembon:
Funny considering that Samsung's strategy seems to be about saturating the market with every type of device for every type of person and budget and yet they failed to see this apparently obvious approach

And even more funny that no one tought about it before despite the iphone being around for years
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Riyal:
Well if you ask me... Xperia Z1 compact + infrared port + physical slide qwerty keyboard = dream come true! :) But I guess dreams are just dreams after all. Maybe it could become real one I create my own company manufacturing phones. :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
I had the Nokia N900 (Maemo) and while I did appreciated typing on its slide keyboard I believe that it's something that sacrifices a lot on phone size. Today I prefer a solid, one piece, body. But, yes. A infrared port would be totally welcome on this little beast. :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
That is such a niche market you're talking about there, it is unfortunately most likely not going to be profitable for Sony, and good luck maintaining waterproofing with a sliding keyboard! :p

And honestly is it even convenient with IR blaster on a phone, or is that just one of those features that you want because other people have it? Because I'm imagining that there is some app you use to control TVs and stuff with, but having to look for that app and waiting for it to launch when you need it is most certainly going to be slower than just picking up the remote, right?
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] guap:
samsung failed because of their crappy mini-series devices, overpriced and underpowered. And because of that selled only thru carriers as far as I know here in Italy.

Sony tried a couple of years ago with xperia SX, a brilliant device for that age... japan only. Maybe because of cliche that japanese are small people with small hands so -> small device? I really don't know. Now they don't seem to make the same error, good for us. But the marketing says "bigger is better", even with 2k resolution now, lol, despite the resulting ridicolous battery time... Wtf is wrong in marketing studies? :D
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] TheKingOfPain:
I think this D5503 is a interesting piece of hardware. Here in Italy it has already captured our attention, plus the new SmartBand is being advertised in conjunction with it: fascinating little gadget.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
There's a lot of gimmicks on Galaxy S4 IMO (air gestures for instance) that it's just useless but I can't include the IR on this list. With a app called smart remote I can control even air conditioning and with a little boy in my house sometimes the remote control just disappears. :)

It's far from essential but, for one, would be very nice to get a ir port on this little huge phone. :)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
Again, I still think it's a bit useless for most users. Your average consumer isn't even going to bother configuring it for example. It might be nice for power users or hobbyists, but it has no business applications and it won't appeal to the average consumer. I think including an IR blaster would be a bad business decision.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
How bad decision exactly? It's better to have something and not use it than not have it at all. The way you put this on the table it's like it would push customers away. :)

There's no trick configuration, you choose the type of device (TV / vcr /air conditioning etc), the brand and it's done.

I understand it's not important to you, but I'm pretty sure there are a lot of ppl out there with a S4 and HTC one that use it once in a while.

Like I said, it's fine to me not having IR blaster but would be even better if it does.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
And you talk as if it's free to just include it, any added features take development time (a smart IR controller app no less), added production costs (granted, small ones) and takes space in the device.

No it certainly won't drive customers away, but I don't think it will gain many regular consumers either.

Of course you have to consider the buying power represented by power users (which a majority of do apparently want it) recommending phones to their non-enthusiast friends, which I personally believe to be significant.

All in all I don't know anything more than that I don't think it's useful enough to be a deciding factor for me.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] joelteixeira:
Fair enough, thanks for sharing you point of view.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] ermond012:
Hey bud. Unfortunately it isn't fixed yet.:( The last time I texted our contact person in the repair shop said he's still looking for a solution, that was last Wednesday. I'm starting to get impatient and this is causing me a lot of inconvenience. But I guess all I can do is wait and hope for a positive result.

Been thinkng of getting a Z1 Compact as well should my phone get fixed. But the real deal breaker for me is the screen size though what I like with Z1 Compact is the IPS screen and should it be true, the battery. Still thinking of it though.

Just a suggestion, get Z1 Compact from Xperia store dude. Learn from my mistake. It may cost more but the warrant is secured.:)
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] brapicoco:
Yeah, I'm planning to get also from the Sony store itself if it will give me a warranty and some freebies. Yes, the screen is IPS confirmed by Sony's product Manager.

Screen size is a deal breaker but it outlasts the z1 and for day to day use I prefer the pocketability
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
Yeah would have prefered 1080p too but I guess it just isn't possible to get 1080p for an 4,3 device so that's a trade off I'll gladly take. Sadly, like so many other smartphones I've read that the battery isn't removable, which is a bit of a deal-breaker personally speaking. I don't understand, why all those companies can't understand how important it is to freely replace the battery, I simple don't have the time or willingness to wait 1,5 weeks in order to change the damn battery of my phone.

If it's old/damaged I should be able to go the next retailer buy the battery and replace it.

Samsung has it right, why aren't others doing it ?

Other than that, it's a great phone and I'll preorder it in black with an additional 32gb card (hardly use more than 8 gb of space on my phones), mostly podcast, music..
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
1080p in a 4.3" device would be ridiculous, 720p is already 341 PPI which is already higher density than what our eyes can even discern at a distance greater than 30 cm, and you'll rarely hold you phone closer than 30 cm.

And removable battery, yes, there are certain pros to removable batteries, such as being able to carry multiple charged batteries, and swap them out as they drain, or to replace a degraded battery with a fresh one when its active charge cycle becomes too short to be practical. But in reality most people do not ever do this, and it is a fact that an internal, non-removable, battery has fewer safety regulations tied to it and as a result, a non-removable battery can contain a higher charge in the same form factor as a removable one, not to mention the fact that a phone with a removable battery also needs to have a mechanism to get at the battery, and also internal casing around the battery to keep the user from damaging the phone when replacing the battery.

Furthermore, at least in my experience, batteries tend to outlast their devices, and any scenarios where multiple batteries could be useful, swapping batteries is usually not practical (e.g. skiing trip, sailing, etc).

Personally I'll take a higher capacity, higher quality, non-removable battery before a statistically less safe, thicker, removable one any day.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
Fully understand the point, that's why I've mentioned although it would be nice it's not a big dealbreaker for me. Since webbrowsing is basically sending emails, watch NHL scores/standings and quickly skim through some online pdfs. So I think even 342 PPI is more than enough for me :)

As for the battery. In my case it is pretty simple, I'm certainly not going to change my phone every 1 - 2 years so my battery will suffer from that. I know carriers want people to become "early adopters" so they can squeeze out more money of them, but in my case I'm not of them. Yes, non removable batteries do come with some advantages but personally I'm willing to sacrifice them because:

- if something goes wrong with the battery I'll fix it in 3 hours (depending on the traffic)

- new one same thing

- second battery = 2 the runtime and even the best non-removable batteries are coming close to such long lasting timeframes

- sometimes I want to turn off my handy completely (not just in standby mode but off), this can be quickly done by just removing the battery

- the goverment can go f...themselves so no matter how hard they are trying to partner up with companies, my devices are not going to be in "always on" mode - easier to accomplish with removable batteries.

Anyway, the more established online-stores will for sure offer new batteries and guids on how to remove the battery will pop up soon after release as always, I just don't understand why companies need to make this things more unuserfriendly ...

but basically it comes down to functionality versus appearance/charging speed and personally I'll take the functionality :)

btw. I'm wondering if Samsung will postpone the S 5 mini and deliver a more compact one now that Sony has started a long overdue trend.
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] Rekoil:
Your argument about you being able to fix it in 3 hours is interesting, because that assumes (correctly for the most part I suppose) that retailers will stock (and continue to stock) batteries for your particular phone. This might well be the case, but consider the environmental aspects of that, if retailers stock these batteries, aren't people just going to treat them as consumable products and swap them way more often than they need/should? Furthermore, what happens when people stop using the phone that the battery you're after fits in? Then the batteries will eventually just be thrown away and that's also gonna take a toll on the environment.

My point is everyone wont use be using this feature as reasonably as you or I would, and as a result we are gonna end up with warehouses full of batteries that can't be efficiently recycled.

As I said before I understand that there are legitimate uses for removable batteries, I just don't believe the pros outweigh the cons on the whole. I think external batteries are a much better solution, because they can be used with any phone, any tablet, any reader, flashlights, fans, etc, etc, and they can be used from generation from generation. Much more reasonable!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] spaniolo:
499 USD? If I can put my hands on one that will be my next phone. The specs are impressive and like many other people I prefer a handy phone comfortable and not oversized. I hope they make it available in the USA soon. T-mobile... listen please....

---------- Post added at 03:22 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:11 PM ----------

Totally!!!
[Xperia Z1 Compact General] frankgreimes:
I'm a bit selfish in that regard when it comes down to functionality. I just know, I will need to replace the battery at some point, so if that means a bit less enviroment friendlyness so be it. On the other side, what will happen if people are changing their phones every 1 - 2 years ? Tons of handys are (which still wouldw ork very well), are filling somewhere and the battery needs to be excluded because they can't be destroyed as "one"device if we are talking about the enviromental friendlyness.

As for external batteries thanks for the tip (seriously), I really didn't know that they are able to charage smartphones and tablets that's a nice development.

As for the pricetag I've only seen it in euros in pounds which (449/499) so I guess US might be a bit cheaper ?