yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] DJSinCity:
Finally got to load this ROM today, it's fantastic..

Everything runs smoothly and I have around 55% free'd up ram when nothing's running :D

I recommend it strongly
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] summiter:
It's like that on the standard Imate and Qtek AKU2 ROMs. It's probably the intentional behavior, although I agree it would be nice if it truly closed and released the memory.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] xelencin:
Haven't seen this issue. You using Agile for WM5? That is the only that that prevents my phone from going to sleep.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] BullishBil:
Use as Modem over bluetooth?

Just got the Cingular 8125 and flashed it with this ROM. Everything works great! However, I do have a question. How do I use my phone as a modem over bluetooth? I used to use the o2 xda mini (aka Magician), but I did not find the same/similar program to use. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] hdubli:
Method os same...but depends on the BT stack on yr PC.. :lol:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
OZ going through a slow IM gateway server?

Does it do this even if it's shut off??? I'm looking for an IM client for the MDA...resisting reinstalling OZ (the cab is still sitting on my PC).

BTW: - re OZ being slow. I read some press releases from 2004 indicating that T-Mobile signed up with OZ to use their messaging gateway product to manage IM services for TMo customers. I'm wondering now if the problems people are seeing re: slow response, etc with OZ IM really has anything to do with the client, or if it's because TMo is aggregating all the IM traffic on an OZ messaging gateway that's under-spec'd.

Does OZ traffic have to go through a gateway like this? Is it possible to configure it to talk directly to services like AIM, Yahoo, MSN, ICQ? (maybe it already is and I'm imagining this gateway stuff...but that's what it looked like to me...)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] prestonmcafee:
Time to Today Screen?

I am wondering how much of the "snappiness" after the install is actually due to the hard reset. I had experimented with some software, including pocket informant, which I decided I didn't need or didn't like. Nothing seems to really uninstall in WM5, so, having taken careful notes on my setup, I performed a hard reset and then re-installed the software I wanted to use. There was definitely a speed increase, but that is probably due to eliminating junk and dead registry items.

I would like to know the time to a responsive today screen for a US T-Mobile MDA that has been reflashed with xelencin's ROM. With the stock MDA, I get 63 seconds, which degrades to 85 after I add spb Today plus and 4 plug-ins, Smartskey, etc. The test I use is the time from pressing the reset button to the Today screen responding to a down arrow command. This, by the way, is much slower than my boot of my Windows XP laptop, which boots in less than 60 seconds.

I had just performed the hard reset before I read about this new ROM, but will probably install it when it is next time for a hard reset. WM5 reminds me of Windows 98, which needed frequent re-installs from scratch to run properly.

Let me add that this is an awesome site and xelencin's contribution is the kind of dramatic gift that makes it so.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Re: Time to Today Screen?

Uninstalls really are a joke in WM5 it seems. I've gotten used to browsing the entire file structure after an uninstall, and manually deleting subdirs in Program Files links in Startup and scouting around for other application folders and files. Somebody messed up here! You would think that MS would understand uninstall requirements by now. In theory, all that *should* be needed is a list of all files and folders added by the application (along with reference counts for shared files), lists of items overwritten along with backed up copies of what they overwrite -- along with a robust uninstall routine built into WM5 that knows how to unhook DLL's, Today Screen plugin entries, and put things back together as described by the installer logs. This should be trivial after all the experience they've had with Windows as well as pocket pc.

BTW: tools like MemMaid help with a period housekeeping, although I haven't found a "perfect" one yet...

Next time I do a hard reset, I'll capture the startup time before and after all my app installs. I'm postponing that day as long as I can, however, because it has become pretty tedious and time consuming. After a hard reset, I install:

- Wisbar Advance 2

- PocketBreeze

- ContactBreeze

- iLauncher

- MS Voice Command

- Darryl Burling Voice Enable

- OpenNETCF

- .net framework

- Registry Wizard

- MemMaid

- Resco File Explorer and Registry Editor

- PocketZenPhone (PZP)

- PZP links, PZP skins, PZP user-defined profiles

- skins for Wisbar, PocketBreeze/ContactBreeze, iLauncher & a theme

...then of course I have to allow ActiveSync to reinstall and resync.

All in all, with a couple of warm resets in the process, this takes WAY too long to want to do more than once in a while....after a while, the "fun" goes out of this exercise!

Yes, yes and yes! As much as I love the MDA, it would have been a much more time consuming and painful learning curve without this site. Thanks again to all who make it what it is.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Kanjibankers:
Hey guys/gals. I am extremely new to all this mod stuff but am very interested in changing the ROM on my new Cingular 8125 to the Tmobile/Qtek ROM. I am with Tmobile and just got my unlocked 8125 this morning. Could somebody be kind enough to walk me through the steps of what I need to do? I have already downloaded the ROM file to my desktop.

Sorry if this has been asked before, but I couldnt fine a good tuturial on how to do this upgrade.

Thanks so much for helping a newb out!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Pmavrovic:
If you Read through the first 1-2 pages of posts here, you will have a good idea of how to do this step by step.

The process from the downloded ROM files guides you pretty well, HOWEVER i STRONGLY recommend that you backup all your data and make sure that you read any of the problems that people have had.

Since your phone is NOT exacly the same as the wiza200, I would suggest that you search for any other people that have sucessfully upgraded their Cingular 8125 models to this firmware.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] magnusbaron:
I can turn on the wifi but it doesnt connect anymore ! I know for sure that there are at least 4 wifi connections around me normally but I dont see any of them !

Any ideas ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] prestonmcafee:
Recovering from a hard reset

Jonazem:

I, too, have a long recovery from a hard reset. In order, I install

black theme

smartskey

omapclock and two shortcuts to automate speeds (216 and 240)

engineering calculator

registry wizard (requires settings)

phm traylaunch (requires lots of tedious settings since no cut and paste)

bticon

mortsaver

memmaid

set up pop3 email account

record eight quick dial voice commands for the car

get activesync running

zagat to go (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)

listpro (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)

newsbreak (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)

metro (on pc card, just needs shortcut in start menu)

spb today plus

spb weather

spb backup

spb diary

spb media

these require a lot of configuration

sjphone, and a little configuration

configure to receive from 3 wireless routers

Total time is about 8 hours, but I can multitask.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Preston -

I'm getting agita just reading your list. Deja vu! Thinking now that it would be neat to come up with a way of automating our favorite installs -- something like a comprehensive install script that you can assemble and run from the PC that's plugged into the mobile device.

I'm starting to ponder this more seriously now, because I think I'd like to try my MDA with a leaner, more carefully selected set of enhancements. But that means the hard reset, reinstall, reconfig cycle again. Not my happiest fantasy... :shock:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] prestonmcafee:
That would be great

Jonazem:

Some of them, like voice recognition, are probably impossible to automate (unless you can figure out where the files are stored...), but it ought to be easy enough to automate dropping shortcuts into the appropriate folders. I'm already using windows for that.

Installing software on the SD card helps, since that requires just a shortcut drop to re-install, when it works.

Actually, traylaunch needs to be linked to the shortcuts in the Start Menu folder, because otherwise the icons are lost during the frequent occurrance that the SD card becomes unavailable, even if briefly.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] chix:
I dl'd the ROM to my desktop and I'm connected to my MDA. However, a screen comes up:

Do you need to CID Unlock your phone first?

I answer No.

But nothing happens - (the upgrade does not begin)

What am I doing wrong?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Ummm...did you ever CID unlock your MDA before this??? If not, you're really asking for trouble! You MUST CID unlock before flashing one company's branded firmware ROM (in this case Qtek) onto another company's branded hardware (in this case, T-Mobile). Otherwise you may be looking at a quick and easy way to "brick" your phone, creating a lovely new high-tech-look paperweight. PLEASE read this thread before proceeding!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] n8dagr8:
Do you have the GPRS set up to use the proxy server to connect to the internet?

What happens if you uncheck that option?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] qmacker:
Sorry if this annoys anyone - I've spent the last 7 hours trying to find out the best method. I want to do two things:

A) BACKUP my USA T-Mobile MDA to SD, so I can restore it later

B) Upgrade to the T-Mobile USA 2.17 ROM (Custom)

After reading all the posts, let me see if this is correct:

STEP ONE: UNLOCK:

- First of all, I'm going to UNLOCK the device using lockiwiz

- (Do I need to do this twice? Once for the SIM and once for the CID?)

- After device is unlocked, I'm going to back it up.

STEP TWO: BACKUP:

- I've got an extra 128MB MiniSD card, which I'm using just for this purpose:

- I'm going to use TeraTermPro to backup to the SD card.

- I'm going to use the following command: r2sd all

- (This will backup EVERYTHING to the MiniSD, right?)

STEP THREE: UPGRADE:

- To Upgrade, I'm going to just run the CUSTOM_RUU_Prodigy_217....exe file, right?

- That's it, okay?

AFTER THE UPGRADE (OR BEFORE?):

- Should I uninstall ActiveSync?

- Presumably I should, as I will have a clean wiped device, and I'll want to start a new partnership?

- Should I uninstall ActiveSync before or after I upgrade to the new ROM?

Thank you all. This is a great forum. I'm also going to post this in the T-Mobile USA 2.17 ROM (Custom) section as well.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] thugsouljah723:
i am in the same boat, but i have read about ROM updates. i have a question though. the links that i see on here show two files.

update: everything went smoothly. thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Download both. The "108" version is the stock ROM that's loaded in the T-Mobile MDA as it ships today. The "217" version is the custom ROM installer that starts with the stock Qtek 2.17 ROM, includes a hand-picked selection of the important parts of the T-Mobile extended ROM (such as the network settings for GPRS/EDGE and MMS), T-Mobile spash and ringtones, along with a couple of good free utilities and a CAB that performs some of the tweaks that have become well-known for being "good things" (such as improving performance, turning on the "E" to indicate when you're getting a true EDGE connection).

The 1.08 version is backup for you, in case you wish to fall back to the same version that comes with the MDA today. You shouldn't need it, but it's good to keep handy.

The 2.17 installer is the handiwork of generous and talented "xelencin", (Long may he thrive!). He thoughtfully included a CID unlocker as well, along with helpful prompts and warnings, making this a very straightforward tool -- IF you take the time to read up a bit, make sure you've got yourself covered in the event of surprises and proceed carefully.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vespa:
Skype

As with the problem with Internet Explorer on the 2.17 custom rom, looks like skype no longer works as well. Anybody have any ideas on how to fix this?

Any assistance is greatly appreciated.

-vespa
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] marruffo:
I downloded the ROM and installed in my MDA with no problems. I have installed other programs as Pocket Artist, Resco Explorer and Resco today's plug-in, etc.... so far... no problem. Excellent ROM.

I also seen the improvement in my battery life (finish charging this morning at 8am... and so far by 12:45... I have 100%)

Once again great job!!! :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jdl535:
Need some lil help

I just did the upgrade. Was scared at the end as it re-booted and asked to calibrate the screen and nothing was happening when I touched the screen, but in about 3 minutes it worked great.

One problem: How do I copy my contacts from my SIM card to my contacts list? I can't find any way to do this now since I upgraded and my SIM contacts don't show up anymore either. Anyone help? Thanks.....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Re: Skype

Vespa - Sorry - maybe I missed this earlier in the thread, but what's the problem with IE? I did the 2.17 custom ROM upgrade a few days ago, and IE works just fine.

As far as my Internet connections go - it seems that T-Mobile must have gotten their gateway issues from last month fixed. Back then, I had to use two different connections "settings groups". One used the wap.voicestream.com gateway and handled WAP and MMS, and the other used internet2.voicestream.com and handled HTTP, Email and other common internet protocols. Took a big of fiddling to get it all right, but it worked quite well at the time.

I checked after flashing my MDA, and noticed that the config was using a single gateway - wap.voicestream.com, for all traffic, all protocols. Out of curiosity, I tried it - and now it works just fine. I was told last month by T-Mobile that, with the total internet add-on, I'm permissioned to use either gateway. At this point, I don't know if there's a difference. Anyone with input on this, I'd be interested in knowing (e.g., perhaps one is aimed at T-Zones users and one designated for unlimited Internet plans?).

Anyway - back on topic - IE seems to work just fine with this setup under the new 2.17 ROM. What kind of problems are you seeing?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Maddogx007:
Hey Jonazen from NJ? Hello :lol: Just upgraded my MDA to the 2.17 by the way, great! But my Wi-Fi does not seem to give me same signal. It seems to be lower than normal all the time. If I stand next to my router, it was usually around 98% now it shows about 66%, and gets worse as I move away. Any advise?

Jonazen on another note, I can't get full privilages with HawardForums, after I changed my email in my personal profile. I believe from past experience, in HowardForums, if u change email you need to respond before it gives you access again, unlike XDA. But HowardForums never sent me a confirmation email. So I registered a new login, with new email, just to get in, but it did the same. So I am like guest now, and can't post or nithing. It sees me when I go there, but that's it. Can u send and email msg to admin or someone on my behalf, cause not sure their getting my communication???? Thx in advance man. P.S. you have a very nice website by the way! 8)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vespa:
Re: Skype

Thanks for your response Jonazen, I have it fixed (including the IE problem) :lol: :lol: :)

You need to make sure your connection settings are as follows:

Start----->Settings------>Connections----->Advanced----->Select Networks

Programs that automatically connect to the internet use: My ISP

Programs that automatically connect to private network: T-mobile GPRS

Wooo hooo :D

- Vespa
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Maddogx007:
Command

That's interesting cause after I upgraded to 2.17 I thought this app commander was really nice program. Glad I got it with upgrade. Sorry for your problem, I know it's annoying when something does not work like it does for others, but I am not experiencing this issue at all on my MDA

Good Luck :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Maddogx007:
Calendar Key

Interesting enoup after reading ur post, since I only upgraded yesterday, and had not tested this key, I jumped on it. And weird, but the phone kicked in, then the calander kicked in almost instant. Now the calander just comes up consistantly. Of course one of the nicest features of the MDA is that key changes depending on what mode ur in. Good Luck
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Maddogx007:
Let me understand this correctly cause I would kill for 55% available RAM. Out of the 64MB i was normally getting about 18-15MB left with old ROM, depending on what I was running. With new ROM I am getting about 19-20 possibly. I would kill for 35MB available RAM. What have you done differently.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Sup, Dog! Fancy meeting you here!

Weird re: WiFi. I seem to have a great signal with 2.17. If anything, it seems to detect new networks faster and connect really quickly. I can be anywhere in my house, on the deck or out front, and it never loses the signal.

I also like trying out WiFi connections wherever I can find them now. I haven't done any wardriving in a while, and it's SO easy now. I'm amazed at how many unsecured WiFi networks there are around here, and also how many secure ones as well. I'm seeing tons of them in most businesses and stores these days, in doctors' offices, etc.

I noticed in the "Startup Group" that there's a link that I don't remember from the old ROM -- although I could be having a Senior Moment. Do you see "WiFiInit.lnk" in your startup group? I'm guessing it fires up some kind of daemon that keeps track of WiFi connections in the area -- and I'm guessing that's why it's able to connect so quickly when I activate WiFi.

Let's see...do you have the 802.11g tweak in place?

This shouldn't affect the way WM5 reports signal strength - but ya never know with Windoze: I'm connecting via WPA/TKIP. I had read somewhere that WM5 doesn't play nicely with WEP...not sure if that pertains or not...

I don't know about the email issue - so far I haven't had to change anything about my login with HoFo. Have you tried writing to them (Howard?) via the Contact/Feedback page? -

http://www.howardchui.com/modules.php?name=Feedback
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Maddogx007:
Small World Bro
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Re: Small World Bro
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] vikramdhani:
so finally the new rom is up and running

but i have 2 questions

1. The phone is not showing sim numbers i want the phone to show the sim number or a way to copy the numbers from the sim to the phone

2. Now after upgrading the rom those this means the phone is being unlocked and can be worked on any network or it will be only on the tmobile network like before

and one more question i dont know if this is a right place to ask but i want to know how can i make the phone able to recieve and send files using the bluetooth connection and if this is a wrong place to ask the question then please refer me to the right section

Thanks for your advice and help
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Maddogx007:
Wi-Fi Companion

Thanks man I appreciate your help. I am going a little kokoo with this wi-fi cause I want to see my old signal strength. So I tried reloading my old backup, yes I know stupid, but I had wi-fi flying with old ROM. Well needless to say old backup did not boot up properly, kind of froze, even after several soft boots. So I coldboot device again???? And stepped on my own philosophy of installing a cab on ppc, and forgetting my own rule or hacking WM5 first so that it does not delete cab files. Needless to say, something happend and WM5 deleted the wi-fi cab file. Anyway, rather than hotsync, I used my new app NetworkLAN. Got on my home LAN and downloaded wifi cab again. But, before installing anything, I noticed in regular connections wireless lan, that the signal strength was excellent. I have not changed reg hack for G yet. What fun this is.... I tell you man once it's all working, i'm going to join a board on topics about sailing, cause these hack topics gets ur blood going, and then i want to try something new. Man normall people don't do this. I was chatting with an editor of Smartphone/Pocket PC mag, and told him they should write an article about crazy ppc user hackers like us. He was curious. I await his response. Who knows it could make an interesting article.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] jonazen:
Re: Wi-Fi Companion

It is sort of an addiction or obsession... the more I dig into it, the less I'm willing to accept things as they are when I *know* they could be better. Then I wind up staying up till 2:30am digging for answers when I know that my alarm clock is set to 6:00am...(so what am I doing now back on the board tonight???). What's "normal" anyway? I spent a few months on another board devoted to outdoor grills...and a few of us really got into modding the grills, testing and comparing the quality of the stainless steel in competing brands, experimenting with catalytic flame deflectors, mods to super-heat the grill, etc. But there was just so much time I could spend there in the end, so that's done for now (but I'm looking forward to grilling again now that it's nice out!). I'm also really into martial arts - but never found the discussions on the boards worth pursuing for long.

Anyway - this has all gotten me really interested, and it's revived my flagging interest in software (you get sorta jaded after 25 years of doing something!). The convergence of phones, mobile PC's, streaming content, WiFi - wow - there's an energy and creativity here I haven't seen in computing in a while, and despite the fact that pocket PC's and embedded linux devices have been around for a while, I think we're really coming up on an exciting period, especially as TV, Internet, 3G, 4G, etc, all start to converge...

Later...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] lanwarrior:
Re: Time to Today Screen?

Do what I did: get SpB backup. It create an image of your MDA. I did the 1st hard reset, customize the PPC and create a backup image. Afterwards, I install the app. one by one and play around with it for 1 day before installing another one. If it messed up, I have a backup image and voila! everything back to normal immedialtey without a hard reset.

This are the list of apps that I KNOW (after testing and re-testing) that does not messed up my MDA:

1. Agenda Fusion (use lots of memory though)

2. Spb Pocket Plus

3. City Time

4. Fizz Weather

5. iGuidance (GPS navigation software)

6. eWallet

7. ListPro

8. Newsbreak

Now I have 2 image file:

1. CLEAN MDA which I have configured to my liking, but no 3rd party app

2. BASE MDA, which is based on #1, but with the above app.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] lanwarrior:
Re: Wi-Fi Companion

What is this NetworkLAN tool?