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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
First off, I've never seen or touched Magazine UX to know how it does or doesn't work. Have you? I've posted a couple of articles that provide more detail on it because I assume people are as interested about learning more as I am. I was hoping that Magazine UX home pages and standard Android home pages could co-exist which appears not to be the case according to an author that apparently

has

spent time with it and gotten info from Samsung confirming the way Magazine UX works. Anyone here on XDA should know about third party launchers and even rooting to run an AOKP ROM if they want. Magazine UX is the first major change Samsung's making to TW in years and the concept is great for larger format tablets which have always looked like crap (even with a third party launcher) because they're basically using a super-sized UI designed for phones. So thanks for the heads-up about the ability to blow Magazine UX away; the problem is I didn't want to have to.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
I've seen a video where someone uses the new UI on the CES. As far as I remember there was a possibiltiy to use the old ui or the new ui :) will search for the video and post it ;)

Edit: here it is

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_toOAVHTO4g&feature=youtube_gdata_player

At 1:30 you can see the old ui

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
Helpful, thanks. That seems to be the "one user configurable page" the article above talks about. At least you can add normal widgets to it. I have seven home pages so four Magazine UX and one normal one kind of sucks. Four M-UX is probably the limit both for performance and because there aren't that many M-UX widgets available. If you can still add additional "normal" pages up to today's seven I'd be happy. Perhaps the reporters from CES didn't dive deep enough. That or the five page limit is for performance. Time will tell. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
You know what I change my mind lol I can't wait for kk update, I actually wouldn't mind having one page of window panes but the rest like I do now. I thought it would be mis matched having such a formation but it actually seems pretty nice, plus kk update looks much cleaner, thanks for sharing that video [MENTION=4728562]benni2903[/MENTION] :good:
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
Yeah I'm also pretty excited ;)

Just noticed at 1:39 in the video that you can move the playstore shortcut on a new page ( the "+" sign at the bottom) :)

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
You mean what's circled? To me, the graphic on the left looks like it represents the M-UX window(s) and the one on the right looks like the current home screen indicator. I'm guessing if you press the M-UX indicator it probably takes you back to the M-UX home page. It pretty much works like selecting from multiple home screens today except M-UX is handled as a single page.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
I mean this :)

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Sorry I must be missing something, whats exciting/new about that?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
Since the menu button's gone what's below has been moved on-screen which is what you've found. I guess. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
I would think that you will be able to use more than one page from the standard UI. For example when somebody does not like the new magazine ui he is able to use the older ui with more than one page (even if you have to use at least one magazine ux page). So the new design does have both styles and everybody can choose what they would like to use :P

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Aaaah yeah, good spot. Although I remember reading somewhere that we must have at least one magazine page and it's not possible to disable it, wonder if that's true.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
Yeah I also heard that. But I would not mind 1 magazine ux page because it looks pretty good as far as I've seen :)

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Elim:
It's only a launcher like HTC did it with BlinkFeed. So, if you don't like it, install another launcher. But I am sure - what I see until now - most of use will like it. It's something complete new and not to compare to the wired MyMagazine.

And then we have xda to tweak all this and surly also to remove the new Magazine like some developers did it with BlinkFeed (before HTC also did it).

And the new launcher is only one change, did anybody see the new notification bar or task manager? I like both also... I really hope we got all this improvements also for our "old" Note. And a official 4-way-multi-window and also more apps in the pen-window and... (*)

*) all seen in the first videos, reviews about the 12.2pro
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
That's still a question. No one here knows the answer yet.

BlinkFeed isn't a launcher; it sits on top of Sense and can be disabled. It, like My Magazine, have a single purpose - display limited news, personal, and social content on a single home screen or separately called page. That's a huge difference from M-UX which is providing links to a wide range of content that exist within apps, functions, and even the OS itself.

Here's a question that needs to be answered (and no one here including me can offer anything more than speculation at this point), does M-UX replace TW, run along side it, or sit on top of it like My Magazine? If it replaces TW we're all kind of screwed as we'll have to live with its limitations (EG: potentially 4 M-UX home page plus 1 that's "standard Android') or use a third party launcher. I really don't want to use a third party launcher because of my 21 home screen widgets 9 are from Samsung. If M-UX runs alongside TW and provides the option to be disabled that'll be fine. We can have the environment we have now but running on 4.4 with hopefully some new functions and features unrelated to M-UX. I'm guessing it's not at all like BlinkFeed and My Magazine simply because its tentacles run so deep in to the OS and the functions it provides are so pervasive.

So it's fun to speculate, everything I'm sharing is pure speculation and opinion, but it's a bit too early to speak in absolutes and declaratives.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] barondebxl:
I think Samsung should wait for the galaxy s 5 to introduce the new touchwiz UI.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
Hey, long time! You thinking of getting a N10.1-14 or just slumming? G-Flex with a 720P display? Uhm, OK?

The N3 4.4 update is a big snore. Some tweaks here and there but clearly evolutionary. As we debate what M-UX means to the N10.1-14 we may not have to worry. Our 4.4 update could end up being just as evolutionary as the N3's. Samsung may not be in to having a physical graphic indicator (the capacitive menu button) do something totally different and non-representative after millions of people have been using it (N3, N10.1-14 owners) in a specific way for months. The question "will the N10.1-14 get M-UX?" still hasn't been officially answered. And chat responses from regional minimum wage staff that most likely are third party contract employees doesn't count.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] barondebxl:
Sup Barry! The note 10.1 2014 looks pretty nice and I'm actually looking for a tablet right now but I haven't decided on anything yet.

Yeah man G Flex! It's about that curve, the display is decent I hear.

I don't think the 4.4 update is going to bring a new UI to the note 3, there's a leak just like the S4 and no big changes. That's good cause Samsung needs to introduce the new touch wiz UI with the S5. But I like their tablet interface, finally they are using the screen real estate the way it it's supposed to be used.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
This is encouraging...

Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 hands-on

The Samsung Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 is going to run the latest Android 4.4 KitKat plus the most recent version of Samsung's TouchWiz UI on top. In addition to all the KitKat goodies and optimizations (incl. Project Svelte that lowers the Android specs and makes the OS run smoother and faster), you'll also get a major overhaul of TouchWiz.

There are two upgrades worth mentioning - the brand new homescreen and the new Multi-Window UI that now supports up to four apps running simultaneously, each in its dedicated window.

The new TouchWiz UI coming with the Android 4.4 KitKat offers brand new resizable widgets plus an entirely different approach to the homescreen.

You can have up to eight homescreen panes and you can put up to four widgets on each

. If you fill the screen with enough widgets, the actual homescreen wallpaper will be completely out of sight.

The homescreens now look much like the Samsung News service that premiered on the 2013 Note devices, much similar to the HTC's Blinkfeed.

Samsung has widgets for pretty much everything - you can have social updates, various news topics (the new disassembled and more functional Samsung News service is now available as a series of separate widgets), weather, mail boxes, shortcuts, office documents, Scrapbook albums, NY Times app, Hubs, Gallery, S Note docs, S Planner, messages, bookmarks, etc.

And all these look just fabulous - every homescreen is completely different, not intrusive at all and very useful -

it's like running four apps on a homescreen simultaneously and thanks to the huge screen and resolution you won't even need opening them in full-screen.

Imagine filling your homescreens with such widgets - you can have a number of active apps the entire time. But what's most important is that the slate ran silky smooth despite all the simultaneous action! Maybe the Android 4.4 KitKat optimizations helped here.

http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_pro_and_tab_pro-review-1029p3.php​

This video's all about the UI. Look how 'friggen fast it is. Pinch-zooming to display all the home pages on the N10.1-14 is downright painful while the N12 is as fast as my N3.

[YOUTUBE]gOtjCycprrY[/YOUTUBE]
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
I actually can't wait now tbh, My Note is pretty fast already so if it can be faster that will be awesome. But I love the new notification bar UI - I have always hated the blocks they look rubbish!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thomlh:
I notice no updates for the note 2014 for 25 days.

Is that Christmas/New Year or is something special on the way?

http://live.samsung-updates.com/index.php?device=SM-P600
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] supergrobi94:
I'm wondering, too that since a long time no update was released for this device. The last was the ML1. But maybe they are busy with cooking a KitKat update with MagUX.

Let's wait, see and hope. ;)

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] takgeun68:
Good News I always wondering if the note 10.1 2014 is getting this update but it will! thats very good news!
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
If you're basing your excitement on the post below I'd hold off for something a little more concrete. Like something official from Samsung Corporate released to the media or a leaked 4.4 update for the N10.1-14 that has Magazine UX in it. OP's post below is I'm assuming referring to an e-mail (regular mail?) s/he sent to a regional Samsung customer service where it was read and replied to by a minimum wage earning third party employee most likely working for a company Samsung's outsourced first-level support to. If in fact the N10.1-14's been confirmed to receive the Pro/Note 2014 s/w, and news of it is so readily available that customer support's publicizing it, you'd expect that an announcement would of been made at CES or it would have been shared freely with the press that asked. The fact that Samsung Corporate hasn't even mentioned the N10.1-14 at the launch of their 2014 premium tablet line or made any reference to its future is troubling. I'm as hopeful as everyone here we get both 4.4 and Magazine UX but the only thing that I feel confident in us getting for sure is 4.4.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Lympe:
Looks like the new magazine ui is for the New pro devices. Our 3 month old tablet is not a pro model so I really don't think that we'll ever get the magazine ui.

Expect a 4.4.2 update like s4 leak or note 3. Some optimizations and that's it.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Have hope my friend.

But yeah will be really disspointed if we dont get new Magazine UI. Will probs mean no 4 multiwinfows and stuff either.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
So here's the $64K question. What happens to the question marks below?

Note|Pro 8.4 - Likely to offered as a replacement for the now aging Galaxy Note 8.

Note|Pro 10.1 - I say "Note|Pro" but a 10.1" S Pen-equipped equivalent of the Tab|Pro 10.1 would seem logical. The N10.1-14 with M-UX/4.4 could be that 10.1" tablet. Or, so as not to hurt N10.1-14 sales or piss off existing owners any earlier then they have to, Samsung will wait until the Pro/Note's start rolling out to announce the sunset of the N10.1-14 and introduction of the Note|Pro 10.1. Which way Samsung goes depends on their feeling's toward a mislabeled capacitive button ("menu" being replaced with "apps" functions) and how anal they are about device naming (N10.1-14 vs. Note|Pro 10.1).

I have no clue as to which way Samsung will go but they need to answer the 10" question mark in the graphic. The Tab|Pro 10.1 shouldn't logically offer more features than its S Pen equipped and higher priced sibling and both 10" devices should have a similar pricing relationship to the 12" tablets. Samsung's put themselves in an interesting position by introducing the N10.1-14 ahead of the announcement of their 2014 Pro/Note strategy.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] rajackar:
I totally agree with you.

Since the hardware of the note 10.1 2014 is identical to some of the new devices a software port will be so easy that I can't imagine that Samsung won't release it. It will also enable them to keep selling the note 10.1 - 14 as part of their line up so it would make a lot of sense.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] thomlh:
I don't think that Samsung know where they are going. I feel there is a lack of communication/planning somewhere.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] ramsv94:
I would love to see the M-UI come to us, but i don't see it happening either. We will get the 4.4 update but it will probably be along the lines of the Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jaaka78:
I'm not saying we will get Magazine UX for certain but we shouldn't think of the Note 3 4.4 update as an indicator. It's considered a phone and will have basically the same phone UI until it receives updates in line Galaxy S5. Magazine UX is specifically for tablets so the Note 3 shouldn't get it. If I had to put money on it I would guess that the 10.1 2014 will eventually receive Magazine UX, but not until after the other tablets are released.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Lympe:
Samsung had the habit to ignore current customers. For example they left 50 million s3 customers to wait 4.2.2 forever until they for 4.3.

Apple's way is to give software first to old devices (1-2 weeks before new phone launches). This enhances consumer loyalty but it seems that Samsung just wants to force people buy the new device because otherwise they have to wait 6+ months to get it.

This sounds pathetic to me. It seems natural to everyone that we'll have to wait for s5 to be released and then several months just to get the new optimized touch wiz. Again we'll have to wait for the New pro devices to be released with the new software and then hope to get it in our 3 month old device.

Software produced by Samsung should be available to all eligible devices day 1 or earlier. End of story.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] benni_1994:
Even if they dont realese an update with magazine UX... there are very talented developers who are able to port it I guess. I'm pretty sure that I will be using Magazine UX on the Note 10.1 2014 edition ;)

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[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] davidnam88:
Hello everybody, this is my first post on XDA after numerous months of lurking. Anyways, I was reading an article published by a Korean newspaper company (DongAh Ilbo) and they seemed to speculate that the current Note 10.1 will be rebranded as the Note|PRO 10.1, which seems like a realistic option. I wish I could share a link, but it seems like I need 9 more posts besides this. :(
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
That's probably the worst possible scenario for us if it's true. We'll potentially get a 4.4 update with minimal features like the SGS4/N3 and the N10.1-14 will be replaced with a new Note|Pro 10.1 with the correct "app" capacitive button and the same features as the other Pro/Note's with a new model number. We'll, to a degree, be orphans. And Samsung's not going to re-brand a device we currently have in our hands to a new name when our boxes, warranties, and receipts are all for the "Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 Edition."
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] jaaka78:
You guys know the new "app" button doesn't add any special new functionality, right? We have the same functionalty of pulling up recent apps if we long press the home button. The reason the capacitive app button replaced menu in the new tablets is because a dedicated menu button is redundant in kitkat.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Geordie Affy:
Yeah I dont think the capacitive button having a different image is a big deal but I honestly recon we will get the New UX.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Duly.noted:
Considering that they menu button is just being replaced by the recent apps button and android apps are designed to show an optional 3 dot menu icon or have it always enabled depending on hardware capability and app developers choice isn't there also the option of having the 4.4 update with M-UX and just leaving the menu button alone? As far as i can tell the new recent apps button isn't serving any special cause/function so it shouldn't be design breaking to leave it as a menu button. Unless Samsung is somehow the worlds largest android manufacturer and can't solve a simple problem like button assignment. Its not like the entire magazine ux rides on the recents apps button.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] GeorgeP:
What I think they'll do:

- Provide a update that includes Magazine UX different from the Pro line in that: they'll leave the menu button as is, and they won't include the new office suite.

What I'd like them to do:

- Provide a minimal update like they are providing for the Note 3. I don't really see appeal of the Magazine UX.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Duly.noted:
Doesn't really matter to me. I don't see too much appeal in Magazine ux. I suppose it looks nice. But then again, Nova launcher with my own theme and layout looks nice too. And I rarely ever use widgets. I also like my keyboard and mouse experience with my note and I feel like magazine ux wouldn't be very conducive to it outside of applications. I am interested in the rpd though. And kitkat optimizations should be very nice. That new office app might be worth a look as well.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
The challenge isn't what the new "apps" capacitive button

does

, it's that it

doesn't do

this which is in all Samsung's internal and external consumer and support collateral.

I could see that as a possibility if the N10.1-14 lives on for a full sales cycle and doesn't get replaced by a Note|Pro 10.1. If there is a Note|Pro 10.1 released what you're describing is a hell of a lot of work (and expense) to maintain a device that's essentially orphaned and in few people's hands because it's only been available for three months.

Sure they can. It's a matter of how. Like you said, they could come up with a tweaked version of M-UX/TW that utilizes the menu button just for the N10.1-14. Or they could provide a minor update to 4.4 for the N10.1-14 and introduce a Note|Pro 10.1 that shares common s/w with the other Pro/Note's making it easier and cheaper to keep current.

If we find out the N10.1-14 isn't getting M-UX and Samsung does introduce a Note|Pro 10.1 I'll sell mine before the newer tablet actually gets released and before the general public finds out the N10.1-14's being discontinued. And it's not because I'm such a fan of M-UX which no one here's even seen yet except in two minute videos. It's because the commonality between the 2014 Pro/Notes should greatly increase update frequency and because of its short shelf life of a couple of months the N10.1-14 isn't going to receive frequent updates. The most encouraging "future news" about the N10.1-14 so far is that a LTE version with model number P605 passed through the FCC bound for VZW. Screwing us (1-2M early N10.1-14 purchasers) is a lot different than screwing the largest wireless carrier in the U.S. by having them certify and launch a product destined to be replaced.

All just my opinion of course. ;)
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] dpersuhn:
Interesting speculation on all sides. Apple proved that redefining a button can be done without ending the world when they redefined the lock switch. While the collateral is all out there, I wouldn't consider that to be a reason they would fragment their offerings. The added cost of maintaining segmented images (development, testing, etc) for a line of products that nearly identical from a hardware perspective wouldn't make sense either. Add to that the risk of customer satisfaction issues arriving from an abandoned customer base that purchased then note 10.1 2014 edition just to be treated like second class citizens a few months later. While I make no claim to have a crystal ball, anything less than feature parity with the rest of the note pro line risks jeopardizing growth in a segment that Samsung is trying to gain ground.

I'd speculate that Samsung will upgrade our tablets to put them in line with the rest of the lineup. Printed collateral won't be a concern. The upgrade will likely refer to updated online user guides and help which is no problem to update. As for licensing of additional apps, the volume license cost would be a fraction of the cost you see for any of them in the play store, so that ends up being negligible when compared to the risk of alienating customers.

I can only hope Samsung isn't so blind as to think that leaving behind the customers that bought the note 10.1 2014 in favor of some new note pro that features the exact same hardware won't hurt them badly. It will...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] BarryH_GEG:
And that my friend is the wildcard. Samsung can do anything up to swapping out N10.1-14's for Note|Pro 10.1's (should they ever exist) via an exchange or modification program. All it takes is money and they have skads. But they'll sell 300M mobile devices in 2014. What happens to us all comes down to how they value 1-2M customers whose money they already have. Let's hope they're feeling benevolent.