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[G Pad 8.3 General] Stujoe:
I have no intentions of switching as i really love this lg. I also suspect that these new Pro models will not be cheap. For my uses the lg is plenty fast and smooth. And since a tablet is just entertainment for me, there is only so much any tablet is worth and i bet these new Samsung tablets will exceed that price.
[G Pad 8.3 General] coolqf:
What Rom will it come with? I've learned to only buy with Qualcomm cpus because they get the best long-term support. There's a chance that the Qualcomm ones are only for lte support....
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Great to hear you're not dissinf the G Pad!

You said switching to a notepro 8.4 would be a small price to pay, but you have no idea how much its going to cost. I bet at least 400.

BTW, knock on works just fine on CM 11. IR support is missing, haven't tried a SD card. Is it not going to work? Oh, and be sure the new bloated "pro" touchwiz will be slower than the lg rom.
[G Pad 8.3 General] LeighR:
I don't find this ROM laggy at all and I have it under clocked for better battery.
[G Pad 8.3 General] xdapao3:
I am not. Have I written anything which isn't absolutely TRUE..?

The only subjective and debatable bit is my deep dislike (hate, actually) of metal cases on mobile devices.

I didn't say a small price to pay period, I said a small price to pay considering the huge improvements so even if the G Tab Pro 8.4 will be € 399 (the G Pad is € 299 over here) it will be worth it to me.

I wasn't looking for a cheap tablet when I bought the G Pad, the G Pad was the overall best tablet on the market, for me, and I didn't mean (nor want) to compromise on anything when I chose it. If it cost more (let's say the 399 we are speculating for the Tab Pro) but it had a faster CPU, NFC and a better display (although I am pretty satisfied by the display as I almost only use it indoor but the brightness and the overall quality of the Nexus 7 2013's display I had before the G Pad was much superior) all the better for me!!

I don't know about CM11 but I do know that on stock Android there are problems making any and all apps use the external SD card. The SD card per se works but setting it as the default storage for all of the apps which handle/save files and let you choose a destination folder is problematic.

Knock on AFAIK doesn't work on the GPE and IR support is missing from any non-stock ROM (I hate crippled harware and I do love to use the G Pad as my TV remote so that's a deal breaker by itself alone).

I do not think so at all. On older Samsung smartphones and tablets I have found that it's only the launcher to be sometimes "slow", not the overall ROM. For example, I use Nova Prime on my Note II (stock, rooted ROM) and I am very satisfied with its performance and with the SW features which are better done and more "coherent" than anything else out there for the Note II. Once you "complete" it with Xposed and the AppSettings and NFClockscreenoffEnabler modules it's the ultimate smartphone for the poweruser... (well, the second best after the Note 3 actually :p)

All of these talks about "bloatware" (both for Samsung and for LG ROMs) really piss me off... this "bloatware" are SOFTWARE FEATURES which other ROMs generally LACK and which for the most part I do find useful!! (and most if not all of which you can uninstall/freeze/disable if you don't use it anyway!!)

It reminds me of iOS users who used to rave (they can't anymore since from iOS7 theirs has become a slower and laggier operating system, not to add far, far buggier!!) about the smoothness and fastness of their toy operating system while it was doing sweet F-all compared to Android (no real multitasking, no widgets, no powerful notification center, no live wallpapers and so on) !!
[G Pad 8.3 General] whoamigriffiths:
I guess Samsung gets the same sort of affection for its products as Apple does (sales figures says it all)

There's absolutely nothing wrong with loving a company and its products but sometimes I see justifications that are just plain wrong.

Just how high does your ppi need to go?

And I'm with the poster above.... These are not going to be cheap........ or even value for money ;) They will be sold at a premium just like Apple.

If you are happy paying for the feel good factor , great but please go talk about it on the Samsung forums where you can get loved up together :P

All the best rich
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
If price ian't a concern, then yes, the Notepro is much better.

Can you configure the SD card as the defualt saving place for app? Didnt know that!

On stock rom you can still use apps2sd though, right?
[G Pad 8.3 General] nychotxxx:
great tablets

I have two gpads and a nexus 7 2013. Love the gpads and now hardly use the nexus. But definitely will consider buying one of the new samsungs. My wife has the sammy tab 8.0 and its very impressive despite lower specs. I'm down.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Bateluer:
I'll weigh in on this as well, since I've been mulling the Gpad as a replacement for my Note 8.

There's no question that the Snap600 is more powerful than the Exynos4412 in the Note, and I don't really use the stylus all that much. There's the occasional use of multiwindow, which is a great feature. Just, for me, its not a make or break feature.

I knew Samsung was going to unveil some new tabs at CES, and now that they've taken the wraps off, I'm not sold. The 8.4Pro was the model I had the most interest in, and TouchWiz skin on it looks so heavy. The tablet doesn't even look like Android. I've been going back and forth over the GPe GPad, much more strongly now that the Samsung tabs have been unwrapped.

What irks me is the paltry amount of storage we're still stuck with. 16GBs? Come on, 32GB should have been the minimum internal storage in 2013. In 2014, 16GBs should get the manufacturer flogged.
[G Pad 8.3 General] naruto.ninjakid:
Yeah I was wondering about other user interface after I saw it I know the specs are better but I want to give LG's UI a try. Well see how it goes ?
[G Pad 8.3 General] xdapao3:
Install another launcher (no root needed). "Problem" SOLVED.

This is what I did yesterday on my G Pad when I finally had some time to spare, installed Nova Prime which I had been very happily using on my OG Note and got on my Note II since day 1 and the results on the G Pad are impressive! It solved most of my complaints about it being slow, it really feels like having a new tablet and it's now a pleasure using it!
[G Pad 8.3 General] GTabJosh:
The "Pro" keyword says $$$ to me. There's no way it'll come in under $399, and like a lot of people here, I bought my G Pad for a few bucks over $250, on discount. That ain't happening with the 8.4 Pro. I can't think of anything a tablet could realistically have that would make me pay $150 or so more than my G Pad.

We know one thing for sure: it will be fast. Just tell Samsung first which benchmarks you'll be running. ;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] whoamigriffiths:
You made me smile thanks ;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] RobilarOCN:
I've owned a number of tablets, most recently the Samsung Tab 8" (which I really enjoyed) and now the LG.

The LG is a fantastic tablet. The only thing I could wish for is a brighter screen. The Samsung Tab 3 8" was brighter at 60% than the LG is at 100%

I'm one of those users that likes a really bright screen and this is my only beef with the LG.

It's safe to say that the new Samsung screen will be very bright, in keeping with their other screens.

Also the higher mAh battery may translate into better battery life than the LG as well.

One other thing, the Samsung will have a 16GB and 32GB version. 32 GB would be very useful. I use micro SD cards for media (videos) but frequently remove them. On my LG I have thousands of books that nearly max out the 16GB base storage. 32 GB would be a real bonus as well.

Given I bought my LG in Canada for $350, $400 for the Samsung is not unreasonable. Heck I paid $500 for the Toshiba AT270 7.7" (one of the best Android tablets ever made).

If the default brightness is higher than the LG, I can get the 32GB version and it has a better battery life, consider me sold on it, irrespective of price.
[G Pad 8.3 General] el Filou:
I actually thought about that new Galaxy Tab Pro thoroughly before buying my G Pad.

What I figured would be better on the Galaxy Tab Pro 8.4:

- SnapDragon 800 instead of 600 (CPU only max. 30% quicker - but I can overclock the G Pad if needed, and GPU also more powerful but higher screen definition too, so not that much quicker in the end)

- WiFi .11ac instead of .11n (not sure it will make a big difference in normal usage, I'm not constantly transferring very big files via WiFi)

- 4G LTE option (not needed, I can use tethering when on the move, and could be pricey if the price difference is like the difference in the current generation)

- Better front cam (useful for people who video chat a lot, I don't)

- Android 4.4 stock instead of 4.2 (if LG 'forgets' to update the G Pad, but I'd be happy with CM11)

What I figured would be better on the G Pad 8.3:

- Looks. I just love LG's design for the G Pad.

- On-screen softkeys, no risk of hitting them inadvertently as with the Samsung.

- Screen dimmable to very low brightness (I don't use tablets outside in sunlight so I don't care about extra brightness, but I want to be able to dim the screen very low at night).

- I could buy it now instead of having to wait for march.

- Probably cheaper than the Samsung.

Unknowns:

- Would the Galaxy Tab Pro feel better in hand? I don't have a problem with the metal back of the LG, and even though I suspect the Tab Pro would have a slightly better feel to it I don't think it would be much much better. After using the G Pad for a few days however, I think what would be better is not the polycarbonate back, but the sides: the LG can get pretty uncomfortable if you try to hold it in landscape with just one hand, as the sides feel very rough to me.

- Would the higher screen resolution of the Samsung be better? 270 ppi isn't very high, but then 360 ppi is overkill for my eyes. I can see the difference between the G Pad and my Rezound (340 ppi) when holding both very close, but at reading distance it's good enough, plus the 1920x1200 definition is good enough too and that's what's most important to me. More importantly: the Galaxy Tab Pro higher definition means the Adreno 330 has to push 1.8x more pixels than the Adreno 320 in the LG. I'm sure it's powerful enough to do that, but then the raw GPU power advantage - even if it's 2x more powerful - over the LG pretty much evaporates due to the much higher definition.

- Custom ROM support: on one hand Samsung has a strong community; but on the other the G Pad has a Google Play Edition - meaning up-to-date kernels and binary drivers will be available to port over to CyanogenMod, and Samsung has a bad track record of putting obstacles in the way of tweakers with secured bootloaders, flashing counters, and more recently KNOX, so I still think the G Pad isn't that worse.

So I bought the G Pad and I'm pretty happy with it. I'll have a look at the Galaxy Tab Pro when it comes out but I'm confident it won't be so much better that I will regret buying the G Pad.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RobilarOCN:
You make some good points. I have the G Pad and enjoy it. I also just pre-ordered the Tab Pro 8.4. It is more expensive ($70 more than the G Pad here in Canada). I like the G Pad, it is the best designed Android tablet I have owned except for the screen brightness.

Much as I like the aluminum back on the G Pad it is a scratch magnet and slippery as heck in hand. As such I have it in a case constantly so the beautiful back is never seen. Also the Samsung has a much higher rated mAh battery, so hopefully a better battery life as the G Pad is average at best.

I don't play games on tablets; I use them for reading, web, and video playback in that order so the higher res screen is also a nice bonus. Once I get the Samsung (supposed to be released on valentine's day) I will review both and post a comparison here.
[G Pad 8.3 General] GTabJosh:
I love my Pad. I think it's the best all-purpose tablet currently available (form factor being a significant consideration -- it's not too big to hold in portrait or type in landscape, but bigger than the other tablets that meet those criteria).

That said, if I could get the Tab Pro 8.4 for $70 more than I paid for my Pad, I'd do it. That would be just $330, though, and that ain't happening.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RobilarOCN:
I actually think that Samsung pricing the Tab Pro at exactly the same price as the Retina Mini is pretty smart (for once).

It is superior in every area to the Mini except likely battery life.
[G Pad 8.3 General] LBJM:
My galaxy 7.7 had no love from samsung. I own the first samsung galaxy tab, note 2, 10.1 2014, etc. The poor performance of the galaxy 7.7 on ics forced me to look elsewhere for a small media player/tablet. I found out about the lg 8.3 and it fit the bill, A small tablet that has microsd, 16:10 resolution above 1080p, weighing less than the 7.7 was a perk, and good battery life able to watch videos for a few hours. Now I knew going in that LG might not update the tablet, but considering honeycomb on my galaxy 7.7 ran better than ICS I'm fine with that. What I think about Samsung's new tablets I like the options they present...... I just think that Samsung has too many products in the Android market space for them to all receive proper support. I'd suggest only those with S pens are worth getting at the moment vs the competition.
[G Pad 8.3 General] whoamigriffiths:
I've only seen the price released in euros so far. (€389)

If the price is exactly the same in pounds, then it will be £330 in the UK or thereabouts, which is £100 more than I paid for the gpad.
[G Pad 8.3 General] jey1234:
You pre-ordered it? I also live in Canada but I wasn't aware that the Tab Pro 8.3 is already available for pre-order. I'd appreciate it if you could post more details as to where to pre-order it.

I'm in a similar position. I just bought the Nexux 7 (2013) two days ago, mainly for reading textbooks and notes. It's my first tablet and I LOVE the screen and weight/feel of it but the screen is just a little to narrow/small for most of the documents I read. I was thinking of buying the G Pad but then I heard of the Tab Pro 8.3 and I don't know if I should wait. I wish there was a Nexus 8... (now) :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] lolwatpear:
anyone have any idea if they plan on a 8.4 note? am I wrong in that it seems only the 12 inch note is confirmed?
[G Pad 8.3 General] enaybee:
Try this link from Amazon ... clicky click

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Now if only TabPro 8.4 would come in GPe ... :D
[G Pad 8.3 General] testadeferro:
For those who says that the Gpad is slow.

All my benchmarks are around (sometimes up) 25k antutu points (stock rom).

I use to play heavy games like GTA SA and similar and not feel any lag at all, nor loading times. I own a galaxy s4 with snap800 and the performance is au pair (s4 a thick faster obvious). But generally I don´t use any lag or similiar issues. I´ve made some tweaks and debloated some parts.

This tablet is a real great thing for the price. And for the updates, one I accept on LG, they don´t promise nothing or timelines contrary to Samdung that year after year let his costumers alone with update promises and then they don´t update they´re flagship devices because of the lauch of new top devices. I don´t play this game anymore. My s4 was my last samdung device after lots of them. Very happy with lg gpad and maybe get the new g pro.
[G Pad 8.3 General] lark83:
g pad

Faux leather = tacky. Buttons on the bezel = tacky. I'm buying the gpe 8.3 tomorrow. The 8.4 will turn out to be slow. It will freeze and it will lock up - just give her time. If Sammy put one fourth of the money they put into marketing into product development and quality control they would have great products. In order to do that they would have to sacrifice their #1 spot, much like Pioneer and now Panasonic did with PDP production. Quality doesn't make much money anymore. Bloviating salesmen and the promise of quality do. Unfortunately lg isn't too far behind. I just hope my screen doesn't have too many of the QC issues I've read about.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RobilarOCN:
I actually like the physical buttons. You get full screen without a bar along the bottom of icons that can only be hidden via rooting. I have both the G Pad and the Samsung tab 3 8.0 and while the G Pad is definitely better (also cost me $120 more...) The samsung is a very decent tablet. I gave it to my daughter and she vastly prefers it to her IPad Mini. I've owned most of the Samsung tablets (7.0, 7.0+, note 8,0 and the tab 3 8.0) and was generally pleased with all of them.

My hope for the Samsung is that with the much higher rated battery, it will have a longer battery life than the LG. Battery life and the dimness of the screen are my only concerns with the LG. Otherwise it is great.

Regarding the faux leather back, I am indifferent. I also put tablets in full cases so I guess it is moot. I wonder how they will have a case that covers that back (or maybe just a magentic front?).
[G Pad 8.3 General] lark83:
That's a good point about the case but I don't use cases with any of my tabs. We will see. I'm going to check if 8.4 is out on display at any of the brick and mortar stores today and have a go with it. I'm heavily leaning towards the 8.3 but have read many comments like yours stating that the display is too dark or that it crushes blacks, also that it doesn't cover the entire color gamut. The brightness level doesn't have an impact on my decision but the gamut and black crush do. If Samsung would substitute that fake leather back and ugly fake stitching with something more practical it may be a different story. That back is a big deal breaker for me. Aesthetic is a large part of the tablet experience IMO, besides I've had horrible experiences with Samsung product quality in the past, never really owned anything LG so can't comment on them. Does cramming that many pixels per inch really make a difference. I'd think it wouldn't make a difference to our eyes per say and only slows down the device. That 800 is definitely needed. The battery is another good point, but then again it will be powering a lot of heavy hardware and that magazine ux.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RobilarOCN:
From a build perspective the LG is beautiful. The back is incredible, smooth aluminum. However it's also a scratch magnet similar to the IPad Mini. Definitely needs to be protected or it will get bunged up mighty quick. The only tablet that had similar design quality in Android was my Toshiba AT270
[G Pad 8.3 General] mattskr:
I just got my wife a Samsung Note 3 and it reminded me how beautiful the Samsung screens are: bright and vibrant, compared to the g pad which i find to be dull and my whites are actually dingy gray. Not to mention the screen resolution on the new Pro is incredible. I think the screen is worth the price difference.

I thought I hated Samsung's UI but after spending all weekend teaching my wife how to use her phone, it's not too bad. Never any lag on her phone.

I've never been 100% satisfied with the G Pad. Between the average screen quality, poor wifi, and the slippery metal back, I knew it was probably going to replaced by whatever was the next best thing on the market. Maybe this is it?

Need to go check it out. Looks like it's almost the same size weight as the G Pad which is great. I have an iPad Mini too and the damn thing is just too wide to hold comfortably in one hand in portrait mode.
[G Pad 8.3 General] elim12345:
LG g pad updated with cyanogenmod

I have cm11 m3 running on my v500 g pad (KitKat 4.4.2). I don't have to wait for LG to update, they will always be way behind on updates (Sammy aswell). Still waiting for my Note 2 update (would root, if I wasn't going to sell soon).

I notice my brightness went way up after updating to cm11. Now plenty bright, usually use at about 60-75 percent, before 85 to 100 percent indoors.

I use a rubber type slip on case, so not slippery any more.

I do have a storage problem when setting app storage to ext sd. It stops back ups, saying insufficient space available, when I have plenty. This is not a deal killer for me.

sd card works great as extra storage and movies play fine from it.

Battery life is not great (even before I rooted and installed cm11), but very manageable.

All in all, this is a great tablet. I would not spend more than $250 ish for it though (at this time, since it is no longer leading edge).

I like the cm11 m3 custom rom. CM11 M3 has Double Tap (wake up screen) and a screen color adjustment, built in. I adjust screen to a slight blue bias. This makes whites better for me.

I like the fact that the v500 is supported by cyanogenmod (cm11), once installed, updates are easy (built in updater). I will stay up to date in the future.
[G Pad 8.3 General] RobilarOCN:
Nope that link does not work. They will not deliver to Canada. Try bestbuy canada or ncix, they both have pre order options
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] d_ce:
I want to downgrade from 4.3 to 4.1 but cant do it with a hard reset

Is it possible to downgrade?
[Galaxy S III I9305 (4G LTE + 2GB RAM) Q&A, Help & ] r0mka:
Hey, i have used these files to flash with odin and downgraded successfully from 4.3 to 4.1.2 http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2023527.

Remember that this is only FOR I9305 and not for I9300!

You will still have KNOX bootloader.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elvisypi:
Everywhere the pic zoom is very limited, you can't zoom more than 100%. Is thereany option or mod to enable more zooming of pics? On my old sensation I could zoom up to 300% I think, why is this stupid limitation?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] elvisypi:
I found a solution I think, but still don't understand why this shouldn't be default. SETTINGS > ACCESSABILITY > TURN ON MAGNIFICATION GESTURES

You have to triple tap to zoom with this
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] RickEstey:
Hi fellow gadgeteers,

I have a problem. I have been flashing and reflashing roms on and off for a couple months. I typically do this when I find something about a particular rom that is too much of a pain to deal with (Ie. flashing screens, crazy battery loss, intermittent rebooting, locking up, etc.). Well, I think I have done something wrong and I am not sure how to fix it.

Recently I took and chance and upgraded to an unofficial KitKat rom for the Note. That rom eats battery on my phone like crazy. However, that wasn't the biggest issue I had. I can mamage battery loss. However, I constantly had to cope with the phone rebooting while involved in an online game. I tried many settings but could not stop the problem.

I restored the OS from a back up, but now I get a keyboard error which refers back to the KitKat rom versions keyboard.

Ok so, Here is my question.

Where can I find an Odin capable versions of the Phone OS so that I can completely wipe the device and start from scratch? I have tried sammobile however, their D/L system (rapidgator) is requiring me to wait for one hundred and twenty minutes for a capta response... (ain't noone got time for that)

Is the previous methond the best for what I am trying to do or does someone have a better suggestion?

I appreciate any help I get. Thank you very much.

Rick
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] captemo:
What is the back up you restored?

In restoring your back up, did you do required wipes? Just as if flashing new rom? That wouold be super easy to overlook.

If you did wipes, you could force close your keyboard and clear that cache.

If you are still wishing to revert all the way back, you could always use Kies and the emergency restore.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note I717] RickEstey:
I restored a backup from a couple weeks ago. I didn't restore on back up... Didn't even occur to me. I'll have to remember that. However, the back up works fine. I encounter the afore mentioned keyboard error after flashing to another rom after the restore

I believe you mean force close keyboard in app manage/ app control.. Yes?