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[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Darrian:
I don't entirely disagree, and I am not bothered at the moment since if I give up Dalvik I lose Xposed. However, I did feel compelled to point out that nobody on this website is what you might call a regular user.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
[MENTION=3720075]Darrian[/MENTION] you're right.

I'm definitely sure, and for a fact too, that people on this thread aren't what you call "regular users."

If we've decided to put a custom ROM on our device, then we know things regular users as assumed by Google wouldn't know.

Somewhere down there, we're all daring. Some of us show it. Some of us don't. My point is, some of us have dared to use ART knowing it wasn't ready as stated by Google. And by all means, there are tests both public and personal that show that ART is beneficial. A few of us will say that we don't feel the difference, and that's okay. All based on personal preferences, usages, all that good stuff. And there are people like mr72 and myself who've seen and felt the difference that ART does for our devices, so we choose to use it albeit it's not "ready." But things don't go well as opinions from others may clash with yours, like [MENTION=4437688]Jann F[/MENTION] who knows that Google said ART isn't ready so he doesn't like it when it's discussed too much and [MENTION=2804040]mr72[/MENTION] who just wants to say a few words about ART. -sigh-

Anyways. Guys. This is a forum- no, a community, for all of us to discuss and figure things out. There aren't regulations or restrictions on not speaking about a specific thing like ART unless it's inappropriate or demeaning.

And please, please remember that ART is broken because one of the commits in CM did something and some of us just want ART back because we know that it benefits our device.

You guys can flame away or something but yeah. That's all I have to say.

Oh yeah, I saw a commit today that's included in the next nightly and I'm guessing it MIGHT fix ART. Check it out. Oh yeah, new CWM recovery version. The thing I think is a fix is called "Set some GC parameters only for dalvik.

http://www.cmxlog.com/11/ovation/
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Jann F:
DUDES, STOP IT!

Help me, stop arguing and hope that verygreen will come back with some awesome fixes!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
I do hope that the argument has ended. And yes, I too hope that vg will come back. He's probs been busy and he's been gone since like January or something.

Oh yeah, I saw your post about building a ROM that resolves issues like the flickering and I hope things go well. Good luck! And if you need a tester or something, I have ovation and I'll be glad to help out. I'm a noob, but I can still be guinea pig! Haha.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
Arguing on the internet is like peeing in the wind, it feels great at first but afterwards it gets messy.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
Yup. So how's CM working for you? Good enough as a daily driver?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
I am currently using Succulent's CM11 (which isn't the official CM11). It is rock-solid, but he didn't implement 8X8 Fuzz, just 3X5 and because I have a Ovation with a twitchy touchscreen, this is the only drawback.

I would love to change the fuzz values to make it perfect, but I don't have the knowledge and a build environment to fool around with a kernel.

The official builds aren't that great (at least for me). I get flicker, a lot of random reboots and so on.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
Oh. Me too. I'm on the latest build of Succulent and I have to agree, it's rock-solid and heart-touching (cue Asus lol).

Do you ever get like a random reboot? Like, once in a while? I do. Otherwise it's great.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
I have never gotten a random reboot on the latest 3/7 build. Lol.

Do you also have twitch problems? Like when you drag an icon on the homescreen and then just stop with your finger on the screen - does the icon twitch/move? Or when zooming in the gallery and you just hold it there, does the picture move a little? I have that.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
Yeah. I do. Actually just tried it now and yeah the icon twitches.

Too much sensitivity, huh?

Does it pose any problems for you?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
Well no, not really. drmarble fixed that problem by increasing the fuzz values (which basically tells the device when to recognize a movement and when to recognize a tap).

You could write on Succulent's Blog and ask if he could increase the Fuzz to 8x8. I've already done that but maybe he will see that I am not the only one who has that issue.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
I'll do that. I saw your post on his blog.

I posted too to ask if he was going to release another build.

I mean over the month there might have been other commits in CM that could benefit ovation that isn't in his March build.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
True. Let's hope for the best.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Jann F:
Go grab an Ubuntu image or Linux Mint (which I prefer), a build guide and some curiosity.

I'm the worst noob I can think of, but at least I compiled a recent CM11 for my Desire S a month ago, time to mess with the ovation I guess :D

Currently I am here learning to fudge with the kernel ;)
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
Can I work with Kernels off of a bootable Linux USB? If so that would be easy to set up.

Ich seh gerade du bist aus Heidelberg!
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Jann F:
You need ~100GB free space on an Harddrive to store the source etc and you would have to re-setup the environment everytime you boot, but as long as you won't shut it down it should be fine. You can also use a VM, but building will take forever. It takes about an hour on my native system. I'd recommend a dualboot with a second HDD, I use my WD Veloci Raptor, maybe a SSD would be even faster...

Ja, warum?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
Okay, I will look into that.

Dann könnten wir gleich in Deutsch schreiben. Ist aber hier denk ich nicht erlaubt.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Jann F:
I'll look through the commits to the kernel since CM10.1 M4 to see what they do etc at the weekend.

Nope only english allowed here ^^
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
Awesome.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Whyzor:
Have you tried verygreen's github repo?

https://github.com/verygreen/proprietary_vendor_bn-1

https://github.com/verygreen/proprietary_vendor_bn

There may be few others that may need to be overlayed on top.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] NishantM:
The 04/11 nightly has fixed issues with ART runtime. Working fine now.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] LucaToo:
Refresh for nightlies

Anyone else having trouble with this..?

Couldn't refresh last night and it asked to check connection - even though browser, play store etc working fine.

Been having lots of trouble since 31/03 and this might just be one more.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] metropolitans:
Stability and CM11

There seems to be a lot of comments about the stability of CM11 lately, and I'm puzzled. I've been running CM11 nightlies on my HD for over 3 months now (since verygreen started this thread) and I've only had 1 spontaneous reboot in all this time. It happened during the first month while I was granting superuser access to an app.

During the first month, I updated practically every day. During month two, it was about every 2-3 days. And now, I update about every week to 10 days. I did notice in this thread that there was one series of nightlies a few weeks ago that caused a lot of spontaneous reboots, but I just happened to have skipped those updates. So I was lucky there. Bottom line, CM11 has been rock solid for me since the beginning.

What about scrolling and navigation speed with CM11? Well, I've never switched to ART and don't really see the need to do so -- at least on the HD (hummingbird). It's been very fast and responsive from the start of using CM11. Granted, the HD has always been more responsible than the HD+, I believe due to the differences in screen sizes. I have both and know this firsthand. So this comment only applies to the HD.

Caveat: I only use my HD for web browsing (daily), reading, music, simple games, notes, email, and an occasional video. Nothing too complex. But everything has always run fine, including WiFi and bluetooth. No major issues. None.

I've very happy with CM11 and am considering putting it on my HD+ now. The only thing preventing me from doing it is I rely on some B&N content on my HD+.

I just wanted to post this in case anyone has an HD and was wondering if CM11 was stable. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend it. But if you install, do it clean. I did and think that's one reason I've had no significant issues.

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No. On my HD (hummingbird) am now running 4/5 with no issues. Just checked for updates and I'm currently downloading 4/11.

Try now.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mr72:
Yeah 4/11 is working great for me. Including ART.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] sz0pf1:
ART Versus Dalvik

I've been running CM11 327 on my HD+ for a couple of days with ART without problems. At least none I'm aware of. I started with Dalvik then switched to ART. Dalvik worked great. The performance was solid and responsive. After reading comments about ART and how it is supposed to further improve responsiveness I decided to try it. After switching, responsivenes noticeably improved. Switching to ART has not seemed to introduce any problems into system performance. I would highly recommend its use unless you happen to have a favorite app that is not compatible with it. In my case, so far, every app I use works fine.

For now, I have no motivation to further update until I start having problems or see feedback confirming the stability and performance of the release.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] drmarble:
proprietary files

Many people use the super secret...

https://github.com/TheMuppets/proprietary_vendor_bn

You can add it to your local manifest or just make a directory and clone the repository. It doesn't change very often.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] VonSohn:
What 's that?

Sent from Xanadu using my LG G2
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] PMikeP:
I'll wait for 4.4.3 fixes

While I'm happy at CM 10.2.1, I'm always interested in the bleeding edge. But now that androidpolice reported 4.4.3 coming out as mostly a fix, I think I'll wait until that's incorporated into CM 11 before trying it again.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] padawan_lp:
I just tried the latest nightly cm-11-20140412-NIGHTLY but it didn't work, it get stuck on Cyanoboot while booting. I had to install the nightly cm-11-20140411-NIGHTLY and it's working fine.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] andtron:
cm-11-20140412 ran fine with me, not sure what is wrong with your.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mr72:
If I had to guess, I'd guess ART. It seems to be the thing that gets broken most frequently in the nightlies causing them to not boot.

Can anyone confirm?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jamus28:
The OMX video bug(s) present since 10.2 are only getting worse.

Sound and or video does not play from any streaming source until reboot if you turn off and on the screen while steaming a video

Easiest way to recreate:

Watch any YouTube video (app or otherwise ) in full screen. Hit the power button or allow timeout to sleep.

Wake up and Try to watch any streaming video.

This bug is incredibly frustrating and has been present for ages, maybe even since 10.1. Except now, pausing the video doesn't prevent it, and nonfullscreen can cause it. App changes, cache wipes, etc etc don't help.

Logcat doesn't show anything exciting except

04-14 16:11:36.392 E/OMXCodec(133): [OMX.TI.DUCATI1.VIDEO.DECODER] ERROR(0x80001000, 0)

04-14 16:11:36.392 E/OMXCodec(133): [OMX.TI.DUCATI1.VIDEO.DECODER] init failed: -2147483648

04-14 16:11:36.392 E/AwesomePlayer(133): failed to start video source

04-14 16:11:36.392 E/OMXCodec(133): [OMX.TI.DUCATI1.VIDEO.DECODER] ERROR(0x8000101c, 0)

04-14 16:11:36.392 E/MediaPlayer(2935): error (1, -2147483648)

04-14 16:11:36.400 W/libutils.threads(133): Thread (this=0x48709df8): don't call join() from this Thread object's thread. It's a guaranteed deadlock!

04-14 16:11:36.416 E/MediaPlayer(2935): Error (1,-2147483648)

Googling, this seems to be related to the video buffer not be cleared or saving after sleep/awake, resulting in a full buffer before reboot.

Is there any update on this or are we just stuck with a bad gpu? [MENTION=4243514]Hashcode[/MENTION]
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] tebra:
Will be nice to fix this ugly bug... Experience it every day on my nook HD
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
I am on Succulent's CM 11 and streaming a video, hitting the power button and streaming after that works fine.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] xflier:
I am on nightly, but I didn't see issue. Maybe didn't understand issue yet.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] king200:
I'm running PAC rom http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2705381. I just tried and had no problem. I streamed back into Youtube and also streamed a TV station live.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Whyzor:
Im on 0413 nightly and ART, just tried this on m.youtube and mx player w local video, turning on and off screen in fullscreen hasnt broken anything. Maybe you need to wipe cache or do a backup and clean flash and see if it's reproducible.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jamus28:
thats the thing, this issue has been present through multiple ROMs and clean wipes. I've been running and building android ROMs for 4 years, so its not a question of incorrect installation. Ill give pacrom a shot since aosp may be different.

HD+ 16gb btw.

I've not seen anyone else post this bug, I wonder if my hardware is faulty (that even sounds silly to me).

Local video diesnt have this issue, and neither does flash streaming (amazon), Can you please try my steps with a YouTube app, or another streaming app?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] xflier:
What is the problem of the issue? I did alot of nightly updates without clean wipes, and I didn't notice any issue if I played a youtube video in the app and in full screen, pressed power button, and few seconds later turned it on, and pressed play to continue, it played without any issues.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Whyzor:
Just so the devs don't go on a wild goose chase, I did try to reproduce this and tried to verify whether it's a ROM bug. Installed YouTube app again & tried to reproduce but couldn't. A few settings I've changed from default ROM that you could try are:

1. In Settings -> Performance, enable 16-bit transparency and allow purging of assets

2. In Settings -> Dev options, disable window animation, transition animation , animator duration.

3. Switch to 320 dpi in /system/build.prop

Now I do get an occasional random reboot, but it seems to occur more often after a nightly build upgrade, but stabilizes afterwards.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] kiyo21:
I recall having this issue as well with video playback. Videos would stop loading on apps like Youtube and you would only get a blank screen. Rebooting would fix the problem but only temporary until it triggered again. Likely, by the Youtube example you mentioned.

That being said, I haven't encountered this issue for quite a while. I'm not sure if it went away after switching from CM10 to CM11 back in January. Its been months since I last had that issue.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jamus28:
So pacrom from 4/12 is working fine. No issues with video. It may be that pacrom and succulent from February don't have the same changes to omap or OMX as official cm11.

I don't believe this is a wild goose chase as a few other members report the same thing.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Whyzor:
Hmm well that's interesting, since I can't reproduce it on my CM11 nightly. Yours could also be due to flashing a new rom, which starts from a clean slate. How about you do a backup in recovery (if not already), and flash new nightly build & don't restore apps or anything, just install youtube on a clean ROM and see if it's reproducible? you can always go back to backed up ROM after this experiment to narrow it down to whether it's one of your apps or settings.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mr72:
I just tried this, works fine for me on 4/11 nightly. Maybe try turning off "force GPU rendering"? I didn't try it with "force GPU rendering" checked since that also screws up local video playback so I just don't use it.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
I have "force GPU rendering" on. Haven't tried recreating that bug you guys are talking about.

Maybe I should turn it off?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mr72:
I have run with "force GPU rendering" turned on, and about a month ago I turned it off because I found that it was causing some stuttery playback on locally-stored videos. I have turned it off and see no performance changes at all and smooth video playback. So I haven't been able to identify any benefits to "force GPU rendering" and I have found a few drawbacks. However, since I am not at all into games on my HD+, I am sure I am completely missing an entire category of use cases. I do play some games but we're not talking about GPU intensive stuff.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
Ah. I see.

I'll see if I get stutters on local video playback.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] jamus28:
Well the bug just reappeared for me on pacrom, requiring a reboot. Still the same

Now it's occurring with the video paused and the screen timing out, but not on a manual shutoff.

EDIT: So some new developments. I realize why many of you cannot recreate. It will NOT occur if I ONLY use the official Youtube app.

The bug does occur in a 3rd party apps like Viral, supertube, or PVSTAR, also in non-youtube html5 videos in the browser. . Afterwards, no streaming video will work in any app, including official youtube or in browser html5 videos.

To all of your trying to recreate, please use another streamer or online video besides official youtube.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JimJ2Mz:
Okay, yeah. I've just experienced that.

Especially with Flash videos on Dolphin Browser. Watching anime, and then I have to go do something so the screen shuts off after a minute, and when I come back and try to start the video again, it doesn't work. OR Flash stops responding etc etc.

That stays until a reboot.

Also, on a side note, turning on "force gpu rendering" will speed up 2D animations (duuuh) which makes stuff like UI transitions smoother but, apparently, it also drains more battery and isn't beneficial for gaming. I play Asphalt 8 daily, and with medium graphics setting, it lags, but not badly. So I'll turn that dev setting off and try things out for a day.

Here's the link for stuff about that setting.

http://xdaforums.com/galaxy-s3/help/force-gpu-rendering-t1938081
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] tebra:
Some people (me included) in this thread have problem with google maps location. Application waiting for network location but never get it.

Other apps like yahoo weather can get location on the device.

I have a Nook HD with CM11 nightly. CM10.2 don't have this bug.

If somebody have a correct location in google masp, please explain what options enabled on setting>locations and gmaps.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] wl08:
me too, previous CM11 worked sometimes, but now totally dead.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] spd_rcr:
Not really having any problems with the nightlies so long as I add the old libc.so to the system/lib folder. Manually added it to my gapps (4-11_GApps_Minimal_4.4.2_signed.zip) so I don't have to mess with adding it to the CM zips every time.

Without it a few games and apps are constantly crashing. Any way to get this added back into the build tree ?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Whyzor:
I have /system/lib/libc.so, so it probably has been fixed since your first encounter:

rw-r--r-- root root 310656 2008-08-01 07:00 libc.so

I notice the blank screen and then not coming back until reboot, but not always consistently reproducible or having to watch video to trigger.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] tebra:
I replace my libc.so with yours and reboot but I don't see any differences. Still have no location on Google maps. Which bug is it suppose to fix with that libc.so?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mr72:
Latest nightlies with ART?

Anyone successfully running the latest nightlies with ART? I am on 4/11 and might want to upgrade, but I hear some 4/12 and later would not finish booting with ART.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] Blenky:
I'm running 13th April with ART enabled and everything seems to be OK.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] TheDannemand:
I just updated to 04/16 last night, and everything is working well so far. I'm using ART. Latest PA Gapps 04/17 Mini Modular.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mr72:
Thanks for the quick responses guys. I upgraded to 4/18, seems to be working fine so far with ART.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] excalibar001:
I also upgraded to 04/18 but mine is freezing quite frequently. I'm using ART.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mr72:
well mine is working pretty much fine. wonder if you are using different apps? specific app crashing?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mexigro:
I'm having issues at step 4… Flash the recovery image.

I have downloaded:

emmc-cwm-early3.1.img

sdcard-cwm-early9.img

When I boot into CWM, I try to install from SD card and there are no files found… anyone have any thought on what I might be doing wrong??? I am starting from a brand new Nook HD+, totally stock.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] digixmax:
See http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2679899 for potentially helpful info/pointers.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] mexigro:
Thanks a bunch for that!

I have the latest nightly installed now!

MY HERO
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] metropolitans:
Where is expanded desktop on the HD+

I put CM11 on my HD+ about a week ago and notice there is no "Expanded desktop" tile in either the Quick Settings Panel or the Notification drawer.

That option has been available on CM11 on my HD since the very beginning in January. Is there a hidden setting or something for the HD+?

ETA: Nevermind. I found it in Settings>Interface. You have to switch the option on in order for the tile to show up in the first place. Didn't recall having done that with my HD.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] rholm:
I have it and use expanded desktop. I'm on 20140411. Which version are you using?

Cheers,

Rich
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] :
Or just do it via the power button menu which imo is easier.
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] agantai:
what is ART ?
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] JanSpatschek:
Seriously? http://lmgtfy.com/?q=art+android
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] agantai:
i did think about google search but i thought search for ART what ?

thanks for quick reply :good:
[Nook HD, HD+ Android Development] TheDannemand:
An age old question, and one that always causes debate ;)