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[Nexus 5 Accessories] :
I tried the AirDock for a couple weeks with a Galaxy S3 while working a delivery job with constant rough road conditions and here's my input...

With Diztronic glossy TPU case and magnet sticker outside case: Decent hold to the dock but looks hideous. The advantage of the AirDock's relatively elegant design is lost when using a tacky sticker outside the case.

Moved the sticker to inside the case: holds a little less and looks ok, seems to have difficulty holding onto the soft flexible TPU even though it's glossy.

Removed case and put magnet sticker inside back cover of phone: best solution so far, hard plastic glossy back sticks to the microfiber well enough(if its clean) and the magnets add just enough hold to keep the phone in place. However, there's still not enough hold to be able to push the home button with one finger without it coming off the mount. Also, if you dont clean off the microsuction before each use, it will lose its suction and your phone will fall off while driving.

Basically, it works just barely well enough with a naked phone+magnet sticker, but not well enough with cases, and going naked is a compromise. I feel like if the magnets were stronger it could achieve the level of hold that could give me peace of mind and potentially be able to press the home button without the phone falling off the mount.

I'm trying to decide between modding stronger magnets into the setup or just returning it altogether.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bblzd:
Bit disappointing considering the asking price. Thanks for sharing your experiences.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
in 8 months I've had to clean the mount once, and at that point it holds so tight that I really have to pull the phone off. your gs3 experience doesn't really translate to the nexus 5 with the built in magnets and on screen buttons. I've used my phone both naked and with a matte case and hold has never been an issue. with a physical home button of course it's going to knock the phone off; you need to give it a good amount of force on one side whereas the nexus only requires a light touch.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] amaddux:
My Nexus 7 and Nexus 5 are the same. Both have extremely good magnetic connection with the dock. I have no fear of either falling off while driving.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] thor1k:
Nice user name, but I would have preferred howard roark
[Nexus 5 Accessories] dallasnights:
Any one have a good solution for the Galaxy s5

Tried the stickers but it does not hold at all and falls all the time, and over bumps loose charge all the time

Not happy with this product so far

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Not sure if this is the place, but I asked about military discount and they sent me a 10% code. Please don't abuse this, and if you plan to use this without being active duty military...Please Google stolen valor
[Nexus 5 Accessories] scoobscoob:
Air Dock / Nexus 5 and Ringke Fusion case - The perfect combo!!!

I have a Nexus 5 and got the Air Dock.

My first case (a Tudia Melody) would hold with the magnets and Qi charger works well.

But the magnets alone didn't feel quite like a secure hold (i.e. easily knocked off the stand accidentally).

I tried a few other cases but it seems that any case that is not totally smooth (any mat finish) doesn't

seem to work with the Micro Suction of the AirDock.

I finally found the perfect combination: Nexus 5 / Ringke Fusion case and Air Dock.

I got the RINGKE FUSION for Nexus 5 on Amazon for 10 bucks.

It is elegant, protective, comfortable and it STICKS to the AirDock like its life is depending on it!!!

The Qi charger also works wonders with this case.

Note: The Nexus 5 Case, Spigen® [AIR CUSHION] [+Screen Shield] Google Nexus 5 Case ULTRA HYBRID would also work with the AirDock but the reviews I read favored the Ringke for better fit on the Nexus 5.

Note2: The Ringke case has a very narrow audio jack hole so you may need to get a new (slimmer) 3.5mm aux jack to connect to your car radio.

Enjoy the perfect combo!!!

- Christian
[Nexus 5 Accessories] gregk232:
I have had my airdock for a week.

I am in Texas, and it gets ridiculously hot.

Has anyone experienced that the charging stops when it gets too hot???
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
yep, not too much you can do about it as that's a phone thing other than use an air vent clip
[Nexus 5 Accessories] amaddux:
I use the CD slot mount which places it just below my vents and I have not experienced the overheating issue even after a hot Florida day.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] gregk232:
I am also using the CD mount... maybe I have a defective unit?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
I received my air dock today and while the construction seems very nice, they need to make a pull tab on the plastic film over nano material. I damaged a portion of it trying to peel the film up
[Nexus 5 Accessories] VOLTAGEROCK:
In the video, the n5 sticks right to the charger pad and it doesn't seem to be one with magnets built in as the phone is offset and not completely centered as one would think if there were magnets.

How important is it to ask for magnets when all of the other phones including the n5 (but not as securely, probably because all of the other phones had smoother back covers and not a black matte finish) stuck to that thing to the point where it seemed the back cover was going to come off?

I'm getting this thing in a couple weeks. I've been a super fan of wireless charging especially in the car from the palm Pre days.

Anyway, is there an option at checkout to choose your device? Or is the magnet thing a do it yourself project which I can do no problem if it is?

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
get the magnets
[Nexus 5 Accessories] VOLTAGEROCK:
Meaning they have an option with them put into their charger?? Or I have to buy them at radio shack and make it a do it yourself project?

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] amaddux:
The charger includes magnets on the charger and a sticker with magnets for your car or phone if needed. If you have a nexus 5 you will need to do nothing but order and use it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] VOLTAGEROCK:
Guys, is the still available? The air dock website seems confusing and it seems out of stock. I tried amazon too with no luck...

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] amaddux:
http://www.theairdock.com I can add it to my cart on that site just fine. Also they are extremely responsive to email questions.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Boy does this charge slow
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
I was hoping to have a net positive when using GPS and Pandora
[Nexus 5 Accessories] cornelious2:
Sometimes wired GPS will drain faster than charging.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Not if your charger doesn't suck

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I have never had net negative with my charger
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
unless it's hot outside and the charger and phone is in direct sunlight I do have a net positive, even with maps running, music streaming and screen on. above 90% charge it slows down, but is still net positive
[Nexus 5 Accessories] peachpuff:
500-600mA is all you get with wireless chargers.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Hopefully this product will get updated to the new qi standard once it releases
[Nexus 5 Accessories] _MetalHead_:
That's not necessarily true. The TYLT VU supposedly charges at 1A, and it sure seems like it does because it charges every bit as fast as my wall charger. Sometimes it seems like it charges faster.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
it !ight be updated in that they release a new version

all qi chargers charge at the same rate given the proper power feed. there are multiple threads about it around here, but there isn't a qi charger that can charge over 5-600
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Yeah, even if I end up getting a new phone, I would pay more for an air dock that uses und new qi standard. 600mah just won't cut it
[Nexus 5 Accessories] VOLTAGEROCK:
Not sure where you got this info as I know that qi chargers, specifically the orb and the lg wcp-300 output 1amp. I'm attaching a pic with this of the orb manual spec info. Now the newer ones are starting to output up to 2 amps.

Just out of curiosity, where did you come up with the 5 to 600 mA theory?

Oh and the nexus 5 charges fully from 15% to full in a little over an hour.

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
that's the theoretical maximum, but the chargers aren't 100% efficient. do a little searching around here and youll see no one gets 1a in real world scenarios. I've got 2 orbs and 4 wcp300s, and had the new nexus one, and they all charge around 600ma, as do my Nokia dt900s and 910. and my air dock.

the nexus 5 will charge from 15-100% in an hour on the blackberry 1.8a charger. it won't do it on the stock lg charger and certainly won't on any wireless charger
[Nexus 5 Accessories] VOLTAGEROCK:
My Nexus 5 has charged completely like I said in about an hour and a half. And I kind of misunderstood your post because you are right when it comes to real world specifications. I am an electrical engineer and the 1 amp output that is noted in the manual is the maximum output but yes there are many factors will contribute to not achieving this result. I use the current widget and have seen 803mA while charging but that was with the screen on and numerous apps running. What app are you using to determine the charging amperage?

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
i use current widget as well. there will be some momentary spikes up to 800, but it generally charges around 550-650 no matter the charger as long as you're using a good charging cable and power source.

bacon has a great thread about the blackberry charger, recognized as the best one out there, and he went 14-100% in 1h19m at around 1.7a. given that a wireless charger doesn't put out half of that there is no way it can do it virtually as quickly. the time to get from 90-100% alone will probably take half an hour given the reduced charging rates above 90%.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] VOLTAGEROCK:
OK, you got me! Maybe it doesn't get to 100% per say, but definitely in the 90-95% range. Also this is of course with the screen off the whole time unless I get a call or a few texts come through.

Believe me, I'm surprised too that it charges this quick. If I have Spotify playing and I'm using the phone for browsing while it's on the orb, obviously it doesn't charge that fast.

The phone hasn't even gotten hot while charging either.

OP, sorry for getting off topic a little bit.

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mancterrier:
Ok so Ive had this for a few months now and I thought id give my updated views. Most of the time I have to plug the phone in properly so it doesnt lose charge which kind of defeats the object as I have to unplug it when I get out etc... Did anyone find a decent cable that will charge this up well when on btooth, streaming and satnav etc or is it not possible?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] VOLTAGEROCK:
Even with a net loss in battery, it can't be near not charging the phone at all while you're driving. With that said, isn't it still worth it even if the battery discharges a little bit?

I still haven't got mine but I will sometime soon.

Sent from my wondrous Nexus numeral 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] sailindawg:
I've been using an Airdock since June. Previously, I had a clamp car mount and charged via a USB 12V plug. I use my phone for navigation/live traffic, music and hands free calling/texting. I commute 2-3 hours / day round trip in Boston.

With the USB plug, I would leave the phone screen on 100% and stream away. The phone would charge to the positive, I'd get some charge onto the battery versus what was used.

Qi wireless charging is charging at a much lower amperage. To get a positive charge on my commute, I'm turning on/off the phone screen. I have a Galaxy S 3. The screen is set at 60% brightness. I can still get a positive charge, but I have to manage the screen to keep temps down and battery usage.

I find managing the screen not so bad. It is less distraction with it off at times.

What I like about the Airdock is a cleaner car dock. No extra wires. It's much cleaner. I also use a bluetooth adapter for the car stereo. The drawback of Qi wireless charging is low amperage and heat. PMA wireless charging seems to charge at higher amperage with less heat. That's what I have observed using the two wireless charging technologies.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lfbuccat:
This is why I stopped using my Qi Charger in my car. I have opted for a Magnetic Dock (Mountek nGroove Snap - which actually works with a nude Nexus 5 without the metal tags). And I chose to charge wired from a 2.1a charger. This is the best I can do to balance a clean setup inside my car and actually get a charge on my phone when I have navigation, music and dash working on my phone.

Wireless charging just does not pump enough charge as fast as I use it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] amaddux:
This is very odd because the Airdock charges my Nexus 5 with bluetooth, google music, and waze running. The magnets are more than strong enough to hold my Nexus 5 with a case on it and without the metal tags. A cable charges faster ... But mine does gain charge.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] sailindawg:
It seems to me that the Air Dock was made with the Nexus 5 in mind. The nexus 5's, based upon what I've read, seem to really charge well on the Air Dock. However, your Nexus 5 is more efficient than my Galaxy S3. The screen plus the LTE radio of the Galaxy S3 just suck battery power like no tomorrow. I'm thinking of getting a Nexus 5, but with a new Nexus coming out shortly? I may just wait.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] amaddux:
Of course different phones may act differently. But the post I replied to called out the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] sailindawg:
My bad. Reading comprehension.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bmdixon:
I'd love to test one but i'm in the UK... I'd be happy to pay shipping if you want? ;)

I've been really happy with my v1 model, what the changes you're making?

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
awesome man, I applied. would love to be a beta tester again!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Omg, air dock rocks. I hope I get selected.

Will this update by any chance use qi 2.0?

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You know what would be an awesome idea. If you did a dollar raffle for one of the units. Everyone that wants a chance to win can donate a dollar, the send all the proceeds to a charity. Or maybe the people that get 2.0 units could give away there v1 units in a similar fashion
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Zainiak:
It's really cool that you are doing this! I'll be buying one in about a month (high school doesn't pay well lol) I'd love to beta test, but I understand that you want people that have purchased the last gen to test.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Has anyone been contacted by hank?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] arvonn:
Not yet.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] arvonn:
Not yet, perhaps he is looking for a variety of phones and mine are already covered.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bblzd:
This is great news. I'm looking forward to version 2.0.

Any chance of making an attachment to clip to air vents? My car's dash is too curvy to support a suction pad. :(
[Nexus 5 Accessories] guess005:
The airdock just seems overly expencive for what it is. I have a car Mount very similar to this same material that holds the phone, and plan on modding a very small qi charger on the back. Total cost will be $15. (I got the stands on meh for $5 for a pair, and already had hockey puck qi charger I can take apart. Just need a hardwire micro USB kit).

For those wondering, this stand sticks to your windshield perfectly. It will not stick to a matte back case.

Stand with same material:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00ENJOCT4?pc_redir=1411222455&robot_redir=1

-guess
[Nexus 5 Accessories] guess005:
I was going to say, there is no way you get that sound on the removal of the phone without that stuff on there haha, I know that sound!

All in all it's a good looking product, I'm just a more diy type of person.

-guess
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
It's priced a bit high, but for people without the time or know how to take the DIY route, it's our choice.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] R. Kamidees:
I've been using the AirDock 1.0 over the summer and I have mixed feelings about it. Here are some of my notes for people who are considering buying one.

First off, I am using the suction cup mount for the AirDock, because I wanted to mount it to my windshield like my last dock. The problem with that is the microUSB connection is at the bottom of the dock, so when mounted "upside-down" on the window, the usb cable sticks straight up (or if I rotate the dock on the suction cup mount, I get a limited range of motion on the ball mount and can't the display on my phone to match my sight-line). So I used the included adhesive dash plate (awesome that it was thrown in, along with a 2-port usb charger and cable), which worked for a while. But my dash has a slight curve and the summer months effectively melted the glue, so about once a week I found my AirDock sadly flopped face down on my dash in defeat (not a design flaw of the AirDock, but just a note).

I would leave the AirDock in my car at all times, and the heat tended to ruin the wireless charging capabilities of the dock. My phone would mount just fine (the heat made the pad extra tacky), but I wouldn't get the charging symbol. I would unplug plug back in the USB, which would start charging for 3-5 sec before it would stop again. It wasn't until the A/C cooled down the interior that I could get a constant charge.

Lastly, I'm sure this has more to do with my phone than the AirDock, but I couldn't leave my screen on while charging. The use of the display discharged the battery faster than the dock could recharge, effectively giving me a slower discharge while docked. Most times this would be fine, I could just turn off the screen. But during extended road trips where I needed navigation, it became a bit tenuous to derp around with the phone while driving in unfamiliar territory.

If I could give a few suggestions for the next prototype, it would be this:

-Make the ball mount on the back directionally neutral, allowing for more mounting positions while still allowing the microUSB to always be at the bottom.

-insulate the internal electronics to make them able to stand up to extreme temperatures that occur in cars in the summer.

-Stronger magnets and a more tacky microsuction surface.

All-in-all, I think the AirDock was money well spent but I wish I had known this above info before I clicked "Buy."
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
its not necessarily the air dock struggling with the heat, most likely its your phone. its been posted about before, but I'd your phone is too hot it won't charge. wireless charging adds more heat anyway, so a hot car + direct sunlight + wireless charging makes it hard to charge your phone on hot days
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
I agree with the neutral ball joint
[Nexus 5 Accessories] InsaneJester17:
Anyone hear anything back after signing up yet?

EDIT: And right after I post this I get an e-mail lol. Sounds like they are doing more adjustments before beta. 1-2 more weeks before they start shipping.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Hank-Rearden:
Hey Guys,

So we are going to be sending out these test units in approx 1 to 2 weeks. We are working out a few small lingering bugs, and waiting on a few supplies to have more than a handful of prototypes ready. Thanks for the patience.

Also just wanted to update, we have enough people for testing with the following phones: Nexus 5, Nexus 4, Galaxy S5, Galaxy S4, LG G3.

I realize this is under the Nexus 5 thread, but if anyone with less common phones wants to get in on the beta testing that would be great. We currently have no one to test for the Droid Maxx, Droid Mini, and the many Nokia phones that support Qi. I would also love to get a G2 or two to do some testing on this new version. I would even be willing to break the rules and send test units to people that haven't purchased the original version if they have one of these phones.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] r1cht3r:
Also noticed this coming up this summer, my solution was to turn my A/C vent located under it to point generally in it's direction, that seemed to take care of it. Obviously not a solution for everyone but it worked.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
it is addressed in v2
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Do you have the unit in hand?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
not yet, but I talked to him about it
[Nexus 5 Accessories] groo:
I've been using this since I received it through kickstarted. (ordered two). It's been an amazing device and quite convenient. I have the same problem about not being able to supply enough power to keep my Nexus 5 charged (even at an equilibrium) while the screen is on. I went on a 4 hour drive and the battery was dead when I reached my destination. (Was running Waze with the volume turned off).

The other thing I've noticed is that the mount connecting the ball joint to the charging pad has become loose. Tightening the screw makes no difference. Because of this, the phone bounces around while I'm driving.

All in all, it's a great device and I've yet to see anything similar on the market.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
Yes, the ball joint does lose its grip after awhile. But with regards to the charger, most people don't have a high end car charger to begin with.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] groo:
I'm using the charger that shipped with the mount. Would a different charger provide more power?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
use current widget to see what it's delivering, something in the 5-700 range is what is expected with some potential spikes to the 800s. I've found the charger didn't really make a difference because qi maxes out at 1a and even crappy chargers can deliver that. fwiw, the included one was actually quite good.

i posted about it back in Jan or Feb, but as long as temps are controlled I can charge with the screen on, maps and play music running through my Bluetooth. it slows after 90%, but still charges
[Nexus 5 Accessories] amaddux:
I have the same experience. But I do not generally run my phone at full brightness. I'm wondering that is the difference for some. I ran my phone on Auto in the day today and then full brightness on manual. In both cases I lost charge with music Bluetooth and Nav. On my normal brightness settings or on Auto at night I gain charge.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] devastator83:
My window suction mount all of a sudden got separated into 2 parts ...

Part of it sticks to the window, the other part has come off completely. Anyone else having this ?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bmdixon:
It's just the sticky pad that has come off the suction cup? I've had that happen when it got a bit too warm in the sun but squashing it back together has fixed it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] devastator83:
Yep, it is the sticky pad. Unfortunately squashing it together does not fix it. It has come of 3 times since yesterday, without my phone even attached to it !
[Nexus 5 Accessories] memc:
Yeah the same happened to me. It was apparently a known issue with these ones. They are using better suction mounts now. Just send them an email and they will send you out a replacement.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] devastator83:
You are right. They said they would send me a replacement.