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[Nexus 5 Accessories] janeyenaj:
12 magnets - strong

If you arrange them this way the pull is even stronger :)

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This arrangement with 0,3 bumper has by feel the same pull as 8x 6x3 without bumper...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bofbaz:
I used 8 N52 8x2 mm magnets and arranged them as janeyenaj posted.

Wow, the pull is great and even after a crash the n5 should be mounted... :laugh::good:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ano59:
I tried some magnets with the charger, without any glue or plasti-dip, only to compare magnets.

I think my ~6x3mm magnets (4 x 2 magnets) won't be strong enough for my phone with the official bumper. Even with optimal position.

My ~10x3mm magnets (4 x 1 magnets) don't stick well to the plates because of their sub-optimal position.

However I tried again ~10x3mm magnets, this time 2 x 2 magnets (only 2 sides used, the 2 others sides were empty because I don't have enough magnets on me ATM). With Google's (or Craiq's ;) ) position, it does stick well. The grip is not perfect but it's only half of the total grip I could get with 4 x 2 magnets !

Now it's time to find out how to integrate them in the charger. ~10x3mm magnets might be possible but would be quite hard to put in. Maybe ~8x3mm magnets would do the trick too.

I noticed that I could use thicker magnets, probably up to 4mm thick. This may help too. I guess I'll have to order some more magnets... ;)

Anyway, I'll post some news when I get significant results.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] darkamikaze:
lol I don't think you have anything to worry.. you're probably just rubbing on the portion of the phone that is used for Flip Cover cases. It works like old Blackberry sleeves where when you slide your phone the screen turns off and when you slide it out the screen turns on. The Nexus 5 has that a little below the camera.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bofbaz:
Here's my setup. It's a little dusty...

The pull is very strong - even with a bumper. Heating is present but has no effect so far.

I used N52 8 mm x 2 mm magnets with a pull strength of 3.8 kg each (that is what the description says) and a cheap charger for 17 € ... but only with the original LG USB cable.

Cheerio

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[Nexus 5 Accessories] capo56:
What temperatures have you reached by heavy using? Are the magnets just glued up on the charger, or have you drill some holes for them? Are they covered by some Plastidip, or what is on the surface? I wanted to use just for N52 10*2 magnets, but you solution doesn't look bad ;)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
I really recommend this arrangement!

That are 8 6x4x2 magnets. It should be stronger and have less impact on the coil than those 10x2 magnets!

I'll be more present again after my exams and modify my op
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bofbaz:
I'm going to measure it. I use GPS, Bluetooth and Google play music while I'm driving.

Yes, it's plasti dip and they are glued up the charger.

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[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ano59:
I calculated the size of magnets I could put inside my charger, and I ordered them. Waiting for delivery.

My RAM mount is finally installed in my car, now it's waiting for a wireless charger. :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
That's the principle for it:

its not listed in your calculator but should be stronger then middle one.

And yes I used N45 like those u linked. When you use a bumper you need plastidip or the rubber to hold it from sliding off.

The force should hold the phone without problems, but when you drive on bad roads it can crash.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
they almost have the same strength but resists more heat. N45 up to 80°C and those 45H up to 120°C
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bofbaz:
I checked the temperature.

It's 43°C max after one hour driving, starting at 39°C while it's 24°C inside the car.

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[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
This highly depends on the charging speed. Can you look up how fast you are charging?

I guess it would be great :D
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bofbaz:
Which app is accurate enough to measure the charging speed?

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[Nexus 5 Accessories] brck:
This is an excellent thread and I love the innovation that is going on here!

My sincere apologies if it is already covered and I missed it. I did read the entire thread but I didn't see "The Adapter" that appears on the first post discussed or explained. It's a 3d printed adapter, but how it it used? Is the coil embedded in the adapter?

My friend has a 3d printer and I was already thinking of finding a high current coil and getting him to 3d print me a housing for it that would support the entire length of the phone, so that there is less fulcrum action if you press on the top or bottom of the phone working against the magnets in the middle.

With the broken magnets are you guys getting enough strength to hold the phone to the cheap round BC252W qi charger in a vertical arrangment, as if the BC252W were mounted to a car's dash so the phone faces the driver?

EDIT: after looking at the photos again in one of the linked albums on the first post I see that "The Adapter" attaches to the car mount and then holds the qi charger.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=ccc71.bmw&hl=en

you don't need to break round magnets, when you use blocks.

My actual arrangement is stronger then the one from the vid in my first post.

the rubber makes a big difference! the prob is, that the magnets are not so strong against a transverse force - only on pulling them straight away. my actual arrangement has a really good transverse force (that's why its self adjusting) but not strong enough with the bumper.

If you like to try you can also buy 8x4x3 magents and try them. They are a lot stronger and should have absolutely no prob with the bumper. But I'll still recommend the rubber or the plastidip.

All in all I don't recommend using more then those 4 spots with the arrangement of the metal plates.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bofbaz:
This app doesn't provide any plausible results.. 80 mA with the original charger plugged in?

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[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
Tap again on this number, otherwise it will refresh very rarely

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[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
Use super glue in a more dry area, so it will harden slower.

Or breath at it so it will harden faster.

Your magnets are maybe to much in the middle. I get 600mA. This also highly depends on the cable and charger you are using.

Try the charger and the cable without the qi. You should get about 1500mA. With the qi then should have 600mA
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Bellatron:
Did someone try to safely disassemble this chineese qi charger?

I do not understand how to open it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
take a little flat screw driver. try to go between the two parts at micro usb port. but attention to not plug in the scew driver to far cause you will hit the board then.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
Do you get 1,5A with this charger and this cable directly on your phone? The cable has a damn high impact on this.

If you want me to I can get more into detail why a good cable is important.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] skoalbandit123:
Do you think these magnets would be too big?

http://www.amazon.com/CMS-Magnetics..._sim_hi_4?ie=UTF8&refRID=1PVH6WXW69XX7V7MKSV3

Edit:

Im guessing these would be a better size.

http://www.amazon.com/Magnetics®-Bl..._sim_hi_3?ie=UTF8&refRID=0XXZ9DTK288WZ41P8VE1
[Nexus 5 Accessories] bofbaz:
It's charging with 500 mA. Original cable, 1 A 12v adapter

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[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
The cable needs a low as possible resistance. But those cheep cables aren't looking at this. More follows these days after my exams

both don't look n1. Try to find 1/4"x1/8"x1/8". stupid inches ... or look for some in mm

that sounds really good. yeah the original cable is rocking :D
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
no sorry don't know. Nearly everything is fake
[Nexus 5 Accessories] skoalbandit123:
Yes I agree inches are stupid. What do you mean when you say n1? I can't find the right mm magnets that ship to the US
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
n1 = nice ;)

you can try this page https://www.hkcm.de/expert.php

Looks really great with all information you might need! Found it after I had my magnets :/

You may try 8x4x3 blocks, when you use a bumper. 7x4x2.2 should also work good.

Just look for some that have around 7N force on FE (table), not higher than 3mm and two next to each other should be tiny bigger or same size than the metal plates with 6mm diameter.

I'm using 6x4x2 N45 magnets. They do a great job without the bumper. Used a little peace of the rubber for good a haptic.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] my95z34:
Just a quick question that is slightly off topic, but since there is a lot of magnet discussion here, I figured it might be slightly appropriate.

Anyways, I'm wanting to add magnets to my desktop qi charger, but I don't want them to be super strong like the ones needed for inside a vehicle. Just strong enough to kind of keep the phone in the right spot. The charger I got is kind of cheap and is very finicky regarding phone placement.

Anybody care to chime in on what magnets I should get? Thanks in advance!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
in what position the phone should be hold?

vertical or do you need it just to align the phone on it horizontal?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] my95z34:
Just horizontal on a desk.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ano59:
One of the most important question is : do you have a case ?

Anyways for your needs, it will be very easy to find appropriate magnets. I could even try to help you by testing those loads of magnets I got at home now. :p But I need to know : with or without a case. It's an huge difference.

EDIT : I got my newest magnets, I already tried some arrangements (without glue, only on the case). I could throw out some and keep 2 of them, I will do extended tests this weekend. I hope this time I'll finish this charger. ;) Even if the charger's case got too many holes now lol
[Nexus 5 Accessories] my95z34:
You're a lifesaver. I've got the Toast wooden case.

Thank you!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ano59:
I don't know it, but it's not very important. How thick is it ? 1mm ?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] my95z34:
Roughly. I'd say 1-1.5. Somewhere in there.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] alogblog:
Thanks for all in this thread

I've just finished my magnetic car dock.

I didn't check magnetic force carefully, just felt the strength and used that arragement.

Instead, I make a use of the arms of the mount. My arm of the mount doesnt clip the phone, it just hold the phone.

My last edition has bottom and right arms in the mount, so I can place the phone in landscape or portrait.

And owing to arms, magnetic force can be less strong.

Anyway, after some road(bumper) test, I will post my DIY and some various charging test result( different magnets and displacement)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] alogblog:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2675362

I wrote my steps in above post. I will be glad if you get helped.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ano59:
Haha I got the same chinese holder. The holder is good but the plastic surface where you can attach is doesn't hold it well.

However the suction is good on the windshield.

I can't predict accurately how your phone will react to magnets with your case, but I can provide some guidelines with magnets and official bumper.

This magnet can hold the phone vertically with its official bumper (1mm thick). Not very firmly but if you don't touch the phone it stays held by magnets.

This magnet is stronger for holding vertically the phone with its bumper if you don't push it too much.

So 1/8" x 1/16" (3,175mm x 1,5875mm) cuboid magnets seem to be great with the phone's metal plates. I try to use the thickest magnets so they can hold the phone in a car, but you might want thinner magnets so you can put them easier in your horizontal charging surface. Please note that I only got those thicknesses : 1/32" (7,9375mm), 1/8" (3,175mm) and 3/16" (4,7625mm). I still didn't try 1/32" (7,9375mm) thickness alone but it may be too thin. Maybe 1/16" (1,5875mm) (N52) for your use ?

Anyways you should get 8 magnets and do something similar to this mount (4 x 2 magnets together).
[Nexus 5 Accessories] brck:
Where can I buy these magnets, and are these the best option available in the opinion of the internets today? I'm searching for these on ebay and I'm coming up with nothing. Just larger 1/2" long magnets.

EDIT: I bet a lot of readers would love to know where to buy the N52 version of these magnets from sources that ship to the US.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] brck:
Bueller?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] brck:
This is the closest I've been able to find, but it might be smaller than ideal: http://www.kjmagnetics.com/proddetail.asp?prod=B631-N52

They're N52, but quite small.

EDIT: Or perhaps these 10mm x 5mm x 1.75mm: http://www.supermagnetman.net/product_info.php?products_id=297
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
try this page https://www.hkcm.de/expert.php?language=en

can't find suitable magnets in inches
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ano59:
After 3 months I finally build what could be my final car charger with magnetic docking. :D

Sorry about the lack of news ; much work to do, issues to address...Joys of everyday life. ;)

I took many pictures and I will probably post a walkthrough later. Not before fully testing the charger in real use though (in my car on many road bumps). I hope this time it's actually finished.

EDIT : Seems like it's holding well even with big road bumps. I could have probably made it grip stronger by adjusting the height of Plasti-dip but, hell, it works, so I'll stop here. ;)

I'll post something about how I built it later when I'll have some free time. Before that I would also want to test it while charging (didn't do it ATM).
[Nexus 5 Accessories] JCreazy:
If I used 16 5x2mm magnets on my charger, do you think it would hold? I guess I can always install magnets into my case but I would prefer not to.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
Has anyone tried this method with the white nexus 5? I have many N42 magnets lying around - EP403A-ADH	10mm dia x 2mm NORTH	N42 - NiCuNi plated which have a rated pull of 1.00kg.

What orientation and pattern do you suggest for the magnets? I have already purchased the Qi Charger from aliexpress for 10$.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
Would this work, I haven't glued it yet SK can't test. I need to figure out how to fill in the gaps.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lfbuccat:
You should try Sugru. They worked great for my DIY wireless charger mount.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
the arrangement is good, but I don't like to put the magnets directly on the coil amplifier!

I had problems that the charger don't recognize the phone after touching the coil with a magnet.

Try if it still works. Maybe it would work. If you have the same problem, wait a day. Then it worked for me again.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
wow sugru sounds great! with this you also get some safe distance
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
It actually charges, but the amperes aren't good enough to even move it from discharging to charging, probably because the cable and the charger only give me 600mA directly.

Going to get a 2A charger and test it out soon.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
hello there,

I got mine to work pretty well actually - getting 600mA while charging wirelessly.

magnetic pull is good too - I was planning to put a non-slip material and cover up the magnets because I have a white nexus 5 and it is slightly slippery.

I did have a question regarding the temperature though - the app said the temperature went up to 44degrees celsius, what causes this? is it anything to worry about? how can I reduce it?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ano59:
Hi people.

Sorry about not posting updates, as I said I wanted to do so when I had some spare time but I haven't got some.

News after mid-term usage of my charger :

- It does hold the phone pretty well, even if I wish it was stronger. On extreme bumps it may not hold the phone but it's quite rare and you see it coming

- It does charge the phone, not very quickly but I'm using an USB source with 1A max only and even with full use charging is faster than power usage by the phone (no discharge-during-charge)

- Temperatures rise very quickly, even if at some point it probably stops charging to avoid overheat

It may look like bad news, but you must consider 2 facts :

- I got a phone bumper (official bumper)

- I got a glass protector : Spigen GLAS.tR

They are not very good for wireless charging :

- The bumper puts one more millimeter between coils, plates and magnets, so they have to be stronger, more energy is lost, more heat is produced

- The bumper prevents heat from evacuating easily

- The glass protector (which is great BTW) seems to be a very good heat insulator ; it prevents heat from evacuating easily to a great extent

In fact even the official Google wireless charger can make my phone overheat with time, only slower and/or with heavy use. So I don't know if I will keep using my charger at least this way, but if you don't have such phone protections, it's quite a good charger to make even if it's not easy.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] brck:
I glued on some N52 magnets to the qi disc and got decent results. I have to pull the phone off and reattach 50% of the time from it not being recognized, but I'm hoping I'll be able to move the magnets away from center a bit more to end this issue.

The magnets hold the phone strong, and the charger works when it recognizes. The charge is not strong enough to keep up with screen on, data, and GPS going, which is what I want to run most of the time I'm in my car.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] rpr69:
Hi all. I just read through this thread, as once I get my cheap Qi puck charger delivered, I plan on doing a magnet mod on it so I can mount it in my car. What I found interesting is that based on the teardown of the Google charger, I noticed that they use the same magnet layout as the Palm wireless charger (of which I have 4 or 5), I will report back once I have my Qi charger, and see how easy it is to take the magnets out of the Palm charger and put them in the Qi, and see if it holds the phone. I might also use some of that 'geck/nano silicone' mat to add to the adhesion.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] brck:
I have the exact same results with N52 magnets. I find that after I've reattached a few times it recognizes it every time, but often on the first attachment it doesn't.

Please let us know if moving the magnets away from center helps!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
I have tried to make one DIY, but I find that it's just not perfect that way I want it.

I was thinking I'll just buy the official charger and use a 3m double sided to hold it (no doubt that it works really well!).

How does the offical charger hold up in a car with bumpy rides and such?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
without a case the official one is very strong
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kevjef420:
official charger???

Has anyone tried the official Nexus 5 charger??

What i would like to know is how strong are the magnets on the official Nexus charger? Could i just simply get the official charger and mount it in my car and expect it to hold the phone on a bumpy road?

Thanks for the replies.

edit #1 --- I just read the 2 posts above.... should have seen that before.. Anyone else have experience with the original??

edit #2 --- Ok I watched a good video on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7iIf6VkFXM The guy mounted stock Nexus charger to a car mount and was shaking it around with his Nexus 5 on it. I think this will be good enough for my car instead of trying to modify a cheap wireless charger. Yes it is expensive but I know it will look nice and it will work. I just ordered it from Google Play.

I will post my results later.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Sarrod:
Looking at that setup, I'm wondering if maybe small ring magnets would be preferabele?

Could a technician theorize if this would work? :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] daniel_loft:
How is your battery holding up while using Google Maps (or any other navigation app)? Is it charging with the wireless charger or not?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
I tried, it is reasonably strong - but I get the feeling it would be stronger if I had a black nexus 5, instead of the white one. I'm thinking I'll get one of those stickers to get a grippier back.

Meanwhile, could you direct me to a car charger that gives out 2A for sure, I have one that says 2.1 A output, but once I connect the USB through that - the wireless charging doesn't work through the official charger.

I tried directly using the adapter and it worked just fine. Any recommendations?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] brck:
I find that the position of the phone has to be adjusted sometimes in order to get it to charge at all, and sometimes there isn't good current even when it is charging depending on how the phone is positioned. I'm guessing some of this has to do with the magnets affecting the charging field.

A couple of us were talking about moving the magnets away from center a bit more on the cheap ebay puck charger to see if that would lead to a better charge, but I haven't personally messed with it and I haven't seen any other reports.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
look at page 7 in this thread. ring magnets are much more worse in power and have huge magnetic field around, which is not good for charging.

for me everything works perfectly. it charges for around 500mA - 600mA. Thats enough to charge while heavy usage. Remind you need a suitable charger for this.

Can't imagine that the black N5 has a better grip than the white one. Its the same material just with other pigmentation.

With the charger mentioned in OP I've no problem with any charger. Think its a problem of the electrical resistance, like I can only charge my phone suitable with the original cable.

when you do it exactly like I mentioned it in the thread it works great.

This are the positions of the metal plates.

When you arrange the magnets exactly over it like I did in the following picture, it will autoarrange your phone to the correct position.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
Switched back to original cable and it works just fine now!

Any tips on how I can make it more secure, a nasty speed bump is sure to topple it over?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Craiq:
isn't the original charger strong enough?

You can improve it with plasti dip spray
[Nexus 5 Accessories] giovanni645:
Nope, could definitely need some reinforcement. The glass makes it slightly slippery, I had my phone slip off while going over a speed bump (I might have been a little too fast I admit).

Will try to find plastidip somewhere in this city and see if it works better.
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TopperCNC:
Hi all!

I'm using an XT1034 (US GSM w/ AWS) and have done the usual (official 4.4.2 firmware, rooted, Xposed + GB[KK]).

I also use a DPI of 240 because I still have good eyes and enjoy the extra space.

What bugs me though is the network indicator.

On my other phones, I use the SlimKat ROM and this one allows me to use a *text* network icon in the status bar. Instead of showing bars, it shows an antenna and the dB reading on its left (this is how I know I usually get -91dB in my basement).

Is there a way to use Xposed (or anything else) to achieve the same on my MotoG ? Or at the very least, remove the 3G and/or H icons and keep only the signal bars?

Thanks!:D
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thiagoserrao:
I wanna know some way too.

Up
[Moto G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kieranc88:
I thought gravitybox could do this but I looked there now and no it seems it can't .
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Deleted member 267841:
hi,

the getICCID method returns, in theory, the simcard identifier.

the simcard identifier was printed at the simcard, and is a 17-18 digits number.

but, the getICCID method returns a 10 bytes number. what's the method to convert the getICCID result (internal stored simcard id) into the printed simcard id ????

thank you very much!!

bart