yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
my point is that if you read back it's clear that a lot of us can't wait to get the update. pulling it from devices is a way, but it would be easier if the releaser made it available for download the same time as starting the rollout

Sent from my phone
[Moto G General] noah_noah_noah:
Does anyone have a link to the stock retail 4.4.2 UK version? I haven't found it yet and i'm quite desperate to get kitkat, because.. Well it's just cool and I want it
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
Is it so good that they release at the same time and your download will last 12-16 hours or so at 2 Kbps, because the servers are exploding with download requests? :D
[Moto G General] scrols:
Check last three pages to get the answer.
[Moto G General] Tunisianboy:
HOw

hi, i got my Moto G from Amazon UK, it's running 4.3 and system version : 14.71.8.falcon_umts.Retail.en.GB

I'm in Tunisia now and i didn't get the OTA update like UK moto G owners.

So please guide :

1 / wich update to download and link please ?

2 / how to install it :D

3 / will it affect future update if i do so ?

Thx in advance :)
[Moto G General] noah_noah_noah:
I have the exact same version as tunisianboy and I have checked this thread only the tesco uk version is available not the retail GB version..
[Moto G General] ThomasVanhoutte:
What about a signed torrent file? Should speed up the upgrade process

Still waiting on EURetail.en.EU
[Moto G General] debaj:
Then do the math. :)
[Moto G General] gee2012:
You can`t install and OTA different from the firmware then the one you have installed on your phone right now. You can flash a different rom and then flash the available OTA for that rom.
[Moto G General] Tunisianboy:
Then i shall wait for the official version to come :( . But thx for the reply and the explaining
[Moto G General] g-wh122:
Can someone please confirm whether or not native OTG support has been removed in Kitkat?

And if it has, are there any working third-party solutions?

Thanks.
[Moto G General] redrumsilence:
Peripherals are fine, external storage not so much (apparently)
[Moto G General] neuromante82:
I had a GB firmware (bootloader unlocked and rooted), but today I've decided to flash another firmware. I've tried the .de firware and the .fr firmware but when updating (via sd or adb) it gives me a similar message:

"Package expects build fingerprints of motorola/falcon_retfr/falcon_umts:4.3/14.10.03.X-76-LGG-11/58:user/release-keys or motorolo/falcon_retfr/falcon_umts:4.4.2/KLB20.9-1.10-1.9/5:user/release-keys; this device has motorola/falcon_retfr/falcon_umts:4.3/14"

installation aborted..

I will appreciate any suggestion!
[Moto G General] Thunbergii:
The OTA update for moto G UK Retail didn't come out yet. You'll have to wait a few days more.
[Moto G General] redrumsilence:
Wait for the OTA or manually flash an FR or DE 4.3 ROM then flash the 4.4.2 of the same
[Moto G General] neuromante82:
It's exactly what I've done! I've tried flashing the FR 4.3 rom and updating with the 4.4 FR and I've tried flashing the DE 4.3 rom and updating with the 4.4 DE: similar fingerprint error...
[Moto G General] neu - smurph:
Yes it has. Nexus Media Importer seems to work OK on a brief test as a 3rd party solution. Doesn't need root, but is a paid app.
[Moto G General] neuromante82:
quoting myself. I've solved flashing

Blur_Version.14.91.11.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE

instead of:

Blur_Version.14.71.8.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE
[Moto G General] michalurban:
Where is the OTA (or even the Kitkat UK ROM) placed for download, pls? And also is there any difference between Kitkat UK ROM and Kitkat US ROM (apart from US not showing H symbol, only 3G) that would be worth flashing it?
[Moto G General] redrumsilence:
*facepalm*

Try reading the thread...
[Moto G General] neuromante82:
after updating to kitkat I've rooted thanks to this guide

http://techglen.com/2014/01/09/root...covery-moto-g-android-4-3-and-4-4-firmware/2/

:D
[Moto G General] projectgtr:
Parts of it yes, but whats that got to do with anything? All Tesco Moto Gs in Ireland are sourced in the UK, and are getting updated to KK as mentioned by posters already.
[Moto G General] Ross_Ross:
It's very odd for carrier modified updates to be available before the completely stock version.

---------- Post added at 02:05 PM ---------- Previous post was at 01:56 PM ----------

N part of the ROI is part of the UK. Northern Ireland is, but not the Republic of Ireland.
[Moto G General] projectgtr:
I know i live here ;) , but what has that got to do with anything? Tesco UK Moto Gs are getting the KK update thats what the question was.

As for your first part yeah im very surprised the Tesco version is getting it quicker, goes against everything i would have believed.
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
If you brought yours from Amazon then you will get the retail UK Rob on it, rather than the carrier one that people are talking about here.

The country specific ROMs usually get the update faster than those that are carrier specific, due the fact that they don't have to pass specific testing of the carriers.
[Moto G General] scorthyn:
Someone please make the OTA kitkat EU rom avaiable to download :D , it would be nice.
[Moto G General] theArchitektas:
Of course it doesn't matter, you can be anywhere. That's why some impatient folks in EU flashed the US firmware just to get that update as early as possible :D
[Moto G General] chrisund123:
Still nothing for my 16gb Moto g in the UK on the UK standard ROM... Boo!
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
There are some news by Motorola.de, letting us think that the update is close:

https://motorola-global-portal-de.c..._detail/a_id/97702/p/30,6720,9050/action/auth

The article is in deutsch but you can obviously use Google translate.
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
no offense, but have you read the first post? or the 3rd one?

If there is more information I'm missing, please point it out, thanks .

Sent from my phone
[Moto G General] madave:
Is it this one: http://i.imgur.com/bhg0RvW.png ?

If so, can anyone share a link on the procedure of extracting it? Hopefully I'll be getting the update soon enough :)
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
Oops, you're right. I confused this thread with another similar one and completely didn't notice that article has already been posted here. My bad :D
[Moto G General] danger2u:
yes is that

i really need to

can u extract the rom?

if someone knows how to extract please help us
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
what are you talking about? he is on 4.3 and I don't see the notification about the update on the screenshot

Sent from my phone
[Moto G General] neowlchaz:
That's the Retail Jelly Bean ROM...
[Moto G General] madave:
How come 14.81.2.falcon_umts.EURetail.en.EU doesn't appear on sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14 ? I've been itching to try out that ROM in the other thread but since after doing so there's no way to go back, i've just decided to wait for stock 4.4 because the phone is simply awesome already anyways :):)
[Moto G General] lost101:
That site is maintained by Firmware Team. However they usually ignore private messages regarding firmware. You can request the firmware on their own forum at firmware-team.com or on droidevelopers.com
[Moto G General] nimyea:
Don't mean to be rude, but should this thread really be in development?
[Moto G General] danger2u:
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[Moto G General] Erroneus:
Go ask for it another thread then or make a new one or search for it, but don't make more posts about it this thread, as it's completely offtopic for this thread.
[Moto G General] danger2u:
and whats ur problem???

i know that the thread is about update 4.4.2 but if someone could upload that firmware it will be for comunity of xda too
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
if you ask McDonald's for money instead of food they can't help you

Sent from my phone
[Moto G General] mjjferreira:
Yes and Yes. :)

Enviado do meu iPad usando o Tapatalk
[Moto G General] gee2012:
Bro, edit your posts and delete the firmware version you posted. Post it in a Italian thread cause it may confuse folks aroud here. The rest of Europe has different firmware version than yours.

Thanks for your cooperation :)
[Moto G General] WillDroid:
Probably people who don't know what they're doing at Tesco jumping the gun haha :laugh:
[Moto G General] redrumsilence:
I dunno, they did pretty well with the Hudl, maybe they're trying to be a slightly less arse of a company, taking customers into account for once
[Moto G General] JoaoSony:
kitkat and hangouts?!

Hi, i flashed retail.DE and then make de OTA, no root, no bootloader. And now, I had some problems in hangouts...when I start writing the message the letters dont appear, and the aplication stops working.

SOLVED:

Well , I think that was because I desactivated the Message app...I dont know. Thanks
[Moto G General] AndreReis:
When is kitkat coming out for other countries of Europe?
[Moto G General] Thunbergii:
For the UK version, end of January, beginning of February.
[Moto G General] scott_doyland:
How many times can this question be asked. Its a shame that 99% of people on XDA just ask the same questions over and over.
[Moto G General] jurica_m:
After upgrading to Kitkat, do I need to do factory reset? I have a lot of apps on my phone. Did you reset your device or not? On Motorola's web pages there are tips how to update to Kitkat, without any word about factory reset after upgrading. Thanks
[Moto G General] NX3:
Scrols, I wasn't at home when my g/f did the update so didn't get to get the file, she just did the update.

Picture of phone running firmware, so its not a fake screenshot. Happy to post video to youtube for doubters.... can't quite think what I've got to gain by making it up. It's my g/f phone, I have a HTC One mini as per the reflection in the photo.

If I've got my information wrong I apologies in advance. From my point of view the phone got a OTA for 4.4.2 yesterday, bought in UK, phone still in UK, updated as below.
[Moto G General] 4xtos:
There is a way to extract it now after the instalation?
[Moto G General] Rusty!:
No.
[Moto G General] nimdy:
Just got the Tesco update. Is it normal for more than 50% of my battery to have been used for the update? I had a fully charged phone when the update notification popped up, now I have 47%
[Moto G General] Ross_Ross:
Well, this is one of the dumbest ota update processes i've ever seen. Carrier customised updates going out before completely stock ones, and Motorola are seemingly clueless as to their own rollout schedule. I have patiently waited for 4.4 to fix an annoying package parsing bug, and it annoys me that those paying a premium for a non carrier subsidised handset have to wait receive their updates last.
[Moto G General] noah_noah_noah:
You can work around the package parsing bug by uploading the .apk file to google drive and installing it from there. Still a bit annoying but at least it works. Hope it helped
[Moto G General] michalurban:
Yeah, its weird. But what else I find interesting is the fact retail versions in other states are out already ... whats the real difference between retail UK and DE? Is the UK ROM being implanted with some big brother surveillance software or what? :)
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
Let's say it's "normal" since all users face this drain, but I think it's just an indicator issue: no matter what the initial charge is, after the update the phone always indicates something around 40-50%. Try seeing if in the next hours the percentage stays at 47 for a long time. Then to re-calibrate battery you should do a full charge from 2-3% to 100% with phone switched off.
[Moto G General] nimdy:
I'll have to try that. I did a factory reset after the update and started to install apps and configure the phone again (probably not required but did it anyway as I've only had the phone a few days). In that time the battery has gone down to 40%

We'll see what draining it and recharging does. Then I'll get into rooting to get some CM features into the room :)
[Moto G General] Ross_Ross:
I figured that out quite quickly, but a nuisance all the same, especially when coordinating develop efforts on dropbox.
[Moto G General] scrols:
Getting back to 4.3 on this phone should result in repromting for update thus allowing extraction. Although this is not 100% sure :)
[Moto G General] ThomasVanhoutte:
Report your issue here http://productforums.google.com/forum/m/#!msg/hangouts/4i6nKG-d2_M/i2eKUeNwqeEJ
[Moto G General] MrKaon:
There is not really carrier customization except build number. From now on there is no need to change ROM to unbranded one at least in Motorola case.

Well done Google.
[Moto G General] denzel09:
Agree
[Moto G General] weckart:
Well, isn't that a pity! I mean with all of us Tesco customers being second class citizens who should be sitting at the back of the bus and all.

The smallest violin in the world is playing for you right now.

By the way, you did not pay any premium - just the going rate. Others in Europe are also still waiting with somewhat better grace.
[Moto G General] redrumsilence:
No, its generally expected that international and unbranded handsets will get the first rollout of updates.

This is assuming the carriers roll out updates at all (here's looking at you Verizon Wireless and Vodafone UK)
[Moto G General] markno:
I have a moto g 16gb bought free in amazon of france. I have unblocked and rooted the phone. When he starts installing kit kat to a few seconds me appears ' error ' and is reboot again. Try several times. I am from Spain and my operator is symyo. Is this normal? greetings. :confused:
[Moto G General] gee2012:
Yes, the OTA will not be installed when you are rooted.
[Moto G General] weckart:
Yes but confounding of expectations leads to surprise not annoyance unless there is a prior belief in some hierarchy based on merit.
[Moto G General] Rusty!:
Would you believe that the Verizon Moto X was the first non-Nexus phone to get KitKat?
[Moto G General] markno:
Anyway to update the phone whitout unroot? :angel:
[Moto G General] gee2012:
No, either unroot and update or flash a stock 4.4.2 stock rom (when available) and loose root.
[Moto G General] redrumsilence:
And yet their GS3 _still_ doesn't have 4.3
[Moto G General] markno:
Sorry, but i have a new question: My version is 14.91.11.falcon_umts.Retail.en.FR

and firmwares to download and unroot are this:

Blur_Version.14.71.8.falcon_umts.Retail.en.FR

Blur_Version.14.71.8.falcon_umts.SFRSL.en.FR

which should download and use?
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
retail, or just press unroot in superuser app

Sent from my phone
[Moto G General] neuromante82:
If you are having problems with the FR rom versions you can instead flash a .DE rom than update with the .DE OTA. They are all the same.

I've solved my problems flashing this ROM: Blur_Version.14.91.11.falcon_umts.Retail.en.DE than updating.

For the root I've followed this guide: http://techglen.com/2014/01/09/root...covery-moto-g-android-4-3-and-4-4-firmware/2/ (TWRP Recovery)
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
he wants to unroot to be able to install the ota, he has no problem with fr versions as I understand

Sent from my phone
[Moto G General] neuromante82:
He has found only previous version of the FR firmware. In my case flashing an inferior version has made it impossible to update and I've lost some hours before figuring out what the problem was. Of course if he manages to update with the unroot it's better! :D
[Moto G General] markno:
Unrooted and updated! Thanks
[Moto G General] cowbutt:
Samsung do the same thing.

Look upon it as all the subsidised handset owners being guinea pigs to find any showstopper bugs before your get your premium experience.
[Moto G General] LoLo2207:
Someone uploaded the spanish ota un htcmania.com

Cant post link as i have less than 10 posts

www .htcmania .com/showthread.php?p=12056401

Now I need the 14.91.11 sl backup

Enviado desde mi XT1032 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G General] michalurban:
LOL, funny way to look at it ... :)
[Moto G General] Popple3:
Thanks for that, that also covers Meteor Ireland's phone. For those wondering the exact version, it's Blur_Version.174.44.9.falcon_umts.EURetailSL.en.EU.zip. Trying it out now, will report back on whether it works or not.
[Moto G General] LoLo2207:
BTW someone knows how to make a firmware backup? Like the ones in sbf.droid-developers.org

Enviado desde mi XT1032 mediante Tapatalk
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
Why is it called "EURetailSL.en.EU" and not just "EURetail.en.EU", as it's my firmware? Will this work the same or that "SL" actually means it's a different version?

I'm at work right now and can't test, but if someone on 14.81.2.falcon_umts.EURetail.en.EU can try to see if that zip is recognised, it would be very helpful for all of us :D
[Moto G General] gee2012:
With a custom recovery like TWRP or CWM for instance or adb http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices.
[Moto G General] Popple3:
I think SL stands for SIM Lock. My phone locked itself to the first SIM I put in it (I've since unlocked it). So it's a different ROM, but only slightly I'd imagine.

That EURetailSL zip didn't work for me anyway, and my interpretation of the HTC Mania thread through Google translate shows others don't have it working either.
[Moto G General] LoLo2207:
But that would backup the cwm recovery itself, wouldn't it? How to get the original one?
[Moto G General] gee2012:
Added this in the previous post: ADB http://android.stackexchange.com/questions/28296/full-backup-of-non-rooted-devices ;)

The official rom comes as a .tar.gz file, this a way of repacking a rom.
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
You're right, it should stand for Sim Lock. So maybe that firmware it's a branded version.

I'm italian and I can understand a little spanish (since they're very similar languages XD) and I confirm that the update is not working for other members on HTCmania, neither on "RetailSL" nor "Retail".
[Moto G General] Pablitooos:
Italian firmware is coming now :D releasing is started this morning :cool:
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
"Italian firmware" does not exist, there's the same EU firmware on devices sold in Italy, Spain and Belgium.
[Moto G General] Nandeh:
Please make a backup before install it. It should work on spanish devices too... :p
[Moto G General] flibblesan:
It's the French OTA. That might be why it didn't work.
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
Isn't French OTA called Retail.en.FR? While this is RetailSL.en.EU...
[Moto G General] salvoza96:
When it becomes available the zip file for .EU version?
[Moto G General] Plumfish:
Hello, first post here. I was wondering if I could flash the Tesco Mobile ROM onto my stock UK retail device. If I can, will I need to unlock the bootloader? Or is it simply a case of adb flashing it?
[Moto G General] gee2012:
Yes you can and no need to unlock the bootloader bro.

Verstuurd vanaf mijn XT1032 met Tapatalk
[Moto G General] Upo_hu:
Not adb, motorola fastboot flash. Everything you need for it is in the downloaded package.
[Moto G General] glava34:
Hello there! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JmvCpR45LKA :)

The answer is mentioned at least 10 times in this thread alone..plus there is a special thread just for the question u asked...so all you have to do is look for it..
[Moto G General] Plumfish:
Thanks for the help. I never saw it in the questions thread or this thread. Must've just looked over that. :rolleyes: Thanks again
[Moto G General] redrumsilence:
So I just spoke to someone at Motorola, he confirmed the update for FR and DE, it's rolling out on certain carriers in Spain, UK 'in the coming weeks'. Well bugger. :(
[Moto G General] gee2012:
So flash another 4.3 stock rom + the OTA like Tesco or the German retail stock and the UK one later when it comes out or wait it out.
[Moto G General] EdgySer:
From what I understand is that Belgium is part of the .eu update?

Along with Italy and Spain?

I'm wondering when that would come out, not trying to ask for an eta or something, it's just I really would like for my girlfriend (owning a Moto G) to have KitKat aswell :)

I hope the .EU update comes out soon then.
[Moto G General] ThomasVanhoutte:
Yes, the EURetail.en.EU is sold in Belgium, Italy and Spain.

No update yet, we'll have to wait some longer.
[Moto G General] EdgySer:
Awww :(

Oh well! Might consider flashing the german one.

Any big differences between the German or the Europe Retail one?

Thanks!
[Moto G General] ThomasVanhoutte:
I actually don't know the specific differences between them.

Domeinen might be able to answer this?
[Moto G General] w.sadeghi:
If I flash to the tesco 4.3 rom given in the original post, will this wipe my data (apps, pictures, contacts, app data)? I have thought about titanium backup but I believe this is only for rooted devices?
[Moto G General] gee2012:
I have a German Moto G and its working fine in the Netherlands, the roms are all the same in Europe. Here and there one or 2 languages may be different but thats all.

---------- Post added at 08:12 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:10 PM ----------

The OP only lists the available 4.4.2 OTA`s, the 4.3 roms can be downloaded here http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14.

Yes, titanium backup is only available when you have root privileges.
[Moto G General] EdgySer:
Alright thanks!

So if I were to flash the german firmware, and Android 4.4.3 or whatever releases, will I still be able to grab the OTA update (Belgian or German, doesn't matter)?

Or does one have to be rooted to actually get the German firmware on a Europe Retail device?

I'm pretty up to date with Nexus devices but it made my knowlegde with other manufacturers lazy :p

Thanks!
[Moto G General] gee2012:
Yup, just flash the German 4.3 rom and the 4.4.2 German update will come autimaticaly bro. No root needed and no unlocked bootloader required.
[Moto G General] flargen:
You do not have to be rooted or even have an unlocked bootloader to flash a stock from from another country. It also doesn't wipe your user apps or data.

I'm in the UK on stock everything, no root etc., and got impatient waiting for our update, so I flashed the latest (version 14.91.11) German 4.3 ROM from here using this guide, and it worked absolutely fine. I then sideloaded (Google this if you're not familiar - it's REALLY easy) the German 4.4.2 OTA zip (from here).
[Moto G General] EdgySer:
Aaah! Much appreciated guys :)

Thanks a lot!
[Moto G General] Saiemm:
Hi, I'm on Retail UK Moto G UNLOCKED and my question is if i flash TESCO 4.3 FIRMWARE on my Moto G can i use my T-Mobile sim or do i have to unlock?
[Moto G General] lollerblade:
Tesco firmware is "SL", maybe stands for Sim Locked. If you have not any particular reasons to flash Tesco firmware, flash the Retail DE firmware instead and you surely won't have problems.
[Moto G General] gee2012:
Yup, should work afaik, Tesco is a store and not a phone provider is my understanding. http://www.tesco.com/direct/sim-fre...-black/687-2964.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=687-2964 shows their phones are unlocked.

-Edit- to be sure its best you flash the German 4.3 retail rom from here http://sbf.droid-developers.org/download.php?device=14&file=134 and ater that you will receive the 4.4.2 update. I`am sure this rom will work fine in the UK with any simcard.
[Moto G General] eemgee:
deleted cos I can't read!
[Moto G General] Saiemm:
they also have their tesco locked Moto g

http://www.tesco.com/direct/tesco-m...-black/454-8906.prd?pageLevel=&skuId=454-8906
[Moto G General] w.sadeghi:
The tesco firmware will not lock your phone, as I have just seen. I flashed to tesco 4.3 (non of my files were deleted) and my non tesco sim still worked. An hour later I received the kitkat update.
[Moto G General] Tiago Raposo:
I bought mine at Handtec is a retail GB (UK) and has already received the update KK from 2 days ago, I live in Portugal.
[Moto G General] painterceessie:
When I run flash all.bat nothing happens.

It only gives can't find the path.

What am I doing wrong.
[Moto G General] flargen:
I was using Linux and found that I had to run the script as root. Otherwise, fastboot wouldn't allow me to see my Moto G. So, assuming you're on Windows due to the .bat script, maybe you should try running it in an administrator console window (not sure what the proper name for this is...). Good luck