yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mobilehavoc:
:o

Good to hear. I'm a techno-geek as well so I love having the latest and greatest but I also don't want to mess with something that works perfectly.

I'm also lazy don't want to have to resync everything, reinstall everything, retweak, recustomize. I think my laziness is apparent everywhere - my desktop PC is running Windows XP which was originally installed 4 years ago and is running *knock on wood* perfectly...I know several people like to reload XP regularly.

Guess I'm just different.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jay_jay_n:
YAY i may have to do this when i get mine tommorow :) hopefully fedex doesn't let me down :) from what i heard they have :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Jrac:
First Post

I have had my 8125 for a week - and have been nothing but impressed. The speed, call quality, functionality have all been great. Just upgraded the rom (I am never satisfied and am always *?^&ing around with things that work fine), and from what I have seen the past 2 hours, things only get better.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] oo3:
is there an app or something where i can just back up all my contacts and put them back on the phone after i flash with a different rom?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mickangel:
MMS working?

To anybody who has loaded a new ROM on a Cingular 8125, did you get MMS working with the new ROM? That (and the seemingly random occurence of Wifi not working for some) is the only thing stopping me upgrading mine when it arrives in the next week or so.

mick.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
WiFi works great as long as you do not install a particularly nasty cab from the original Cingular EXT rom. That cab disables WiFi due to an incompatable DLL and is called Singed_gprsstall_1228.sa.cab. As far as MMS goes, the Qtek rom installs MMS but you will need to go in and add Cingular specific server information to get it up and running. Sorry, but I don't use MMS so I don't know that information. Also, you will want to install Signed_Edge_Icon.sa.CAB if you want the GPRS indicator to change to a large "E" when its edge connected.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mickangel:
Thanks - out of interest, which ROM build are you running?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
I've got the production Qtek AKU2 rom installed:

ROM version 2.17.7.2 WWE

Radio version: 2.07.10

After installing, I simply let the builtin extended rom cabs run then installed the Edge Icon fix cab from the original Cingular ext rom. Qtek installs a minimum set of cabs including MMS support. The Edge enable cab from the Cingular ext rom can be found in the Qtek thread in the Wizard updating etc. forum. I posted it there as an attachment.

HTH
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] DiLioPi:
I have 8125 running Qtek's AKU2 ROM (2.17.7.2 WWE) that was just released. No problem at all so far. Everything works perfectly. Speed and reliability of the device have improved since then. I stored a lot of calendar items and contacts plus emails syncs. I do recommend the upgrade. Original Cingular ROM isn't fast enough with all the contents that I have.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
Agreed. It's pretty much a must-do upgrade IMO. However...

I just wish I could find a way to set the default SIP to the block recognizer... The original reghack is no longer effective.

Then there's that damn battery icon..... :evil:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mobilehavoc:
Wow I'm tempted but I've decided to hold off until Cingular releases their own ROM upgrade. Spoke to a business rep and they are quoting sometime in early April.

I honestly don't have any complaints with the way my device is working so not motivated to upgrade.

I was like all you until recently - had bad experiences upgrading a perfectly working device, learnt my lesson. I guess I'm the minority but I don't really care.

:wink:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] urologyhealth:
UPGRADE OF ROM

I wonder if the UPDATED ROM from CINGULAR can simply be done over the IMATE UPGRADED ROM without any special steps?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] decimusmaximus7:
Does doing the rom update hard reset the phone where you lose all your data? If so, can someone direct me to some instructions on how to back up all my settings and things so they can be reloaded? Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] litevsky:
I've posted this question a bunch of times, but noone seems to know for sure.

Can anyone positively confirm that their 8125 remains carrier unlocked after being flashed to the new Qtek rom? I.e. you are able to use the device with a carrier other than Cingular? If anyone can even try their friends T-mobile sim or whatever and see if the device gets on the network?

Thanks so much! I'm dying to upgrade.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
@litevsky:

Do a SD backup of your 8125 first. I just tested this and restored a completely stock 8125 rom image with zero issues. It returns the 8125 to a "from-factory" state right down to the splash screens. That way, if the Qtek rom doesn't work, you can just restore the old rom from the backup. Nothing lost. There's a great thread here about going into the bootloader and doing this backup. I've got a stock 8125 image on a mini SD card now which I will probably use prior to upgrading when the Cingular AKU2 rom is released.

Personally, I think you will be fine however. i believe that my Qtek rom is SIM unlocked still.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] urologyhealth:
NEW CINGULAR ROM

Don't you think you could go directly from imate upgraded rom to new Cingular Rom??
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
Maybe... however I have no way of knowing if the Qtek rom I installed (or the iMate AKU2 rom for that matter) is CID unlocked. What I do know is that the CID unlocking tools such as lokiwiz do not function correctly with these ROMs. Therefore, a safe way of upgrading my Qtek equipped 8125 would be to downgrade to another Qtek ROM that can be CID unlocked with lokiwiz, use lokiwiz to CID unlock it, then upgrade from there. However, the SD restore only takes a few minutes and it dosn't care what image is currently in rom (in fact, it will operate just fine with no image at all), so its the absolute best way to do it IMHO.

Remember that RUU installers have been reported to brick devices that don't have a matching carrier IDs. This because it first wipes ROM then dies because the CID doesn't match leaving a Wizard that won't go any further than bootloader.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] urologyhealth:
UPGRADE OF ROM

If I'm still using CINGULAR why would my CID have changed?

Couldn't I go to BOOTLOADER MODE somehow and then upgrade?

or alternately--I guess I could go down to earlier IMATE rOM??

Thanks for your input. It's possible the new CINGULAR ROM is not better than what I have. I currently can use VOICE COMMAND thru my bluetooth headset and listen to audiobooks thru my bluetooth headset with latest IMATE ROM and the Bluetooth registry tweaks.

Thanks for your input
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] litevsky:
Thanks for your suggestion, but I'd rather just not risk it in case that the new rom applies some more permanent lock. You don't by chance have access to a t-mobile sim to try do you?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
alas... no. I PM'd you on that. Sorry, but the person who used T-Mobile switched to Cingular because the coverage was better. That would be the definitive test though...

@urologyhealth:

It is my understanding that CID is intended to lock the phone's "branding" by preventing you from loading another carrier's specifically branded rom. This is different from a SIM lock which prevents you from accessing another carrier's phone network by loading their SIM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] urologyhealth:
NEW CINGULAR ROM

Understand---but if my phone was originally CINGULAR 8125 - have I lost it's "BRANDING" by unlocking it and installing IMATE UPGRADE ROM?

tHANKS
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
That's how I understand it coming from the phone world. I made a couple of bucks removing Vodafone branding from SE phones. I was doing the world a service too, believe me.... their icons were designed by a 5year old! Branding has nothing to do with hardware, rather it has to do with the Cingular splash screen and the custom themes and the phone app that has that off-color cingular bitmap embedded into it. Carriers go to a lot of trouble to brand their devices and they (mistakenly) believe that we shouldn't be free to change it. Thus the CID lock.

Anybody can feel free to correct me on this since I am new to WM phones myself.... but I don't think I'm wrong here.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mickangel:
I think you're right. I've done the same unbranding to Palm Treo 650 devices for my colleagues (instructions here: http://www.angel.cc/blog/archives/000140.html).

The differences seem to be in the usage of an extended ROM for the customisations and the associated CID lock. The critcal difference (or the scary bit, depending on your view) between a PALM OS ROM and WM5 ROM is that some of the extended ROM elements seem to actually enable what most people would consider core functions such as MMS. That's assuming I've understood it correctly of course :-)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] araje:
What's th actual phone model beneath the Cingular8125 / Tmob

What's th actual phone model beneath the Cingular8125 or tmobile.

The reason for asking this is that I am particularly interested in this PDA phone. But I am very sure I have to unlock it and get the original imate ROM on it.

I am a little scared to flash a ROM which is for a different model,and hence wanted to know what is the original model beneath the branding of phone.

Is Cingular 8125 a Imate-Kjam (doesnt look so by appearance)

Is Tmobile MDA a Imate-Kjam or Qtek9100 (all 3 look same by appearance)

I searched lot of places and got the latest ROMS(released this month) for both for Qtek9100 and K-jam. Now the only step is to buy the cingular/tmobile branded versions of these phones so that I can flash them.

The original unbranded K-jam or Qtek9100 costs > $700 which is really expensive.

Can anybody help me on this.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cshields1:
Resolve the WiFi issue. Cingular uses a proxy server for it's EDGE data connection. This allows up to 200kbps whereas T-Mobile is more like 140kbps. You have to disable this proxy server to allow the WiFi to connect but it does connect and at 802.11g signal levels.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cshields1:
Re: Cingular 8125 - upgrade to latest KJAM ROM - issues/gotc

Resolved the WiFi issue. Cingular uses a proxy server for it's EDGE data connection. This allows up to 200kbps whereas T-Mobile is more like 140kbps. You have to disable this proxy server to allow the WiFi to connect but it does connect and at 802.11g signal levels.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cshields1:
Re: What's th actual phone model beneath the Cingular8125 /

The Cingular 8125, i-Mate KJAM, TMO MDA Vario, etc are all HTC WIZARD models. Only difference are the keyboards between Cingular & i-Mate/TMO MDA. The processor & chipset are identical
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] summiter:
Howdy Sleuth - typically once it's CID unlocked it will remain CID unlocked.

The CID information is stored on the disk-on-chip which isn't usually touched during ROM upgrades.

As a simple test, after your initial CID unlock, you should be able to go back and forth between the Imate and Qtek ROMs. If you can do this successfully, then your device is indeed still CID unlocked. Therefore I don't expect any issue with upgrading (or sidegrading..lol) to the Cingular ROM when it's released.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mickangel:
Submitter. If this is the case it does assuage everyone's fears about upgrading: can you confirm that once CID unlocked it can't be re-locked by a ROM upgrade - is this actually what happened with your Cingular 8125?

mick
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
I'll be happy to try "sidegrading" when a rom with A2DP or with the direct push vibrate bugfix appears. I'm guessing the Cingular AKU2 update will have the latter issue resolved...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] araje:
$100 price diff btween Kjam and Qtek 9100 ?

Thats good to know. But I am actually in a fix which one to go for imate K-Jam or the Qtek 9100. If they are exactly same in specs and features, any idea whats the approx $100 difference for ?

Geek gives a excellent comparision betweem th production model KJam and the pre-production mode Qtek.

Can you please let me know.

Thanks

Anup
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cshields1:
Re: $100 price diff btween Kjam and Qtek 9100 ?

I've read that Qtek offers a 2-year warrantyy whereas i-Mate offers a 1-year warranty. Maybe the $100 buys the extra year???? Other than that, they are the same hardware.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] summiter:
A ROM upgrade via RUU could theoretically CID lock the device, but none of the ROMs I've tried have done so. My ROM history goes something like this: Cingular->CID unlock->Imate ROM->Qtek ROM->Cingular ROM->Qtek ROM

Only CID unlocked once.

I've created two ROM installers and put them on the FTP. One of them will let you flash back to a stock 8125. The other will flash to the Qtek AKU ROM, but it has all the Cingular customizations including splash. This one requires that you have previously CID unlocked your Wizard.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] araje:
Latest Qtek 9100 ROM

After lots of questioning on this forum, I have finally decided to go for Qtek 9100.

Please correct me if I am wrong. I believe, since I will be buying the carrier unbranded product, there wont be any unlocking required (I am pretty sure abt this), but does this also mean that if I have to flash the latest 9100 rom, I also dont need to CID unlock (SuperCID) the device ?

Is there any option in the phone like "upgrade rom" or something like that ?

Also, Can some one share the link to the latest ROM for 9100.

Thanks in advance.

Anup
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] maswell:
no offense, but this is getting off topic. We should keep this to cingular 8125 on different ROMs...

Thanks!!

Im currently thinking about switching ROMs...is there a big difference between the QTEK and K-Jam roms? I thought they were the same, just released diff. companies.

Im tempted to wait for cingular to release an upgrade, but that could take forever.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] trublu01:
Is ther a fix for the WiFi issue with the QTek ROM? I've had it for a week or two and WiFi is not working. Any help?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Sleuth255:
there is no issue with WiFi and the Qtek rom on the 8125 unless.....

you installed the Cingular GPRSSTALL cab

or

you are trying to use the medianet proxy with WiFi connected (this is not Qtek Rom related btw).

If you installed the GPRSSTALL cab from the cingular extended rom then I believe you will need to re-flash your 8125 to fix WiFi. I'd go for the custom Qtek rom based Cingular RUU that was recently posted by summiter in the Wizard Upgrading forum as this has all the Cingular customizations plus a few other goodies.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] trublu01:
I'm running:

ROM Version: 2.17.7.2 WWE

ROM Date: 2/10/06

Radio Version: 02.07.10

Protocol Version: 413.1.03

ExtROM Version: 2.17.7.102

I was able to use WiFi with the orginal Cingular ROM, but now it just keeps trying to connect.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] trublu01:
Huh, Works now!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mickangel:
best rom for speed/stability (not necessarily AKU2)

I'm looking to upgrade a (on-its-way to me hopefully) Cingular 8125. What do you guys recommend as the most stable/fastest rom? I don't need stereo bluetooth profile or push email so battery/stability and GPRS speed (and speed of wifi connection) are more important than sheer number of functions or the newest features.

Any suggestions on the best option bewteen the Cingular base ROM and bleeding-edge AKU2 roms?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] paschott:
Check out the upgrading forum - there's a thread going on over there right now about the modded ROM for a Cingular upgrade. I was actually able to run it straight against my phone - no issues. Battery life so far has been great. I can't comment on push e-mail as I don't think our Exchange server supports it yet. No problems with connectivity that I can see. Speed seems to be better, but I can't measure very well at the moment.

They also include the EXE to go back if something goes wrong or you need to work with Cingular for some reason and they give you a hard time about the ROM you're using.

-Pete
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] maswell:
This cusom ROM made just for the 8125 is on the Upgrade forum

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=45295

Im using it now, and so far so great!

Faster, for sure. Some of the interface has changed, but honestly I like it much more. The wizard...or maybe I should qualify that with "using WM5"...still needs some work to be "the one", but this is definately a step in the right direction.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mickangel:
paschott/maswell,

thanks for the advice. I have downloaded the custom ROM (i think its the correct one) and will give it a try. It's moved from its original upload location. I take it it is this one at the FTP?

/Wizard/Roms/Cingular/Cingular_RUU_WIZARD_217_AKU2_WWE.exe
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] litevsky:
Just to update my older comment, I took the plunge and upgraded my 8125 to the Qtek rom and I'm happy to report that the Qtek rom DOES NOT re-simlock the 8125 like the iMate rom did.

This is all thanks to submitter's two custom roms that allowed me the chance to go back to a stock 8125 very easily, so I could test the Qtek without fear of having a brick.

Thanks again submitter.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Cing 8125:
Can some help me do a SD backup, I unlocked both the SIM and CID using Lokiwiz program. Worked great easy to do. I want to do the ROM update but would like to backup first. I downloaded romupdate_115 but can't find out how to use it.

Thanks

Great site
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] g0nk:
hey all, sorry for being completely ignorant here, i'm learning, but, i have a couple questions..

1> is the file on the ftp site from this thread: http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=45295 the newest ones?

2> If i flash to the newer ROM, is that all i have to do? just run the exe with the 8125 connected via USB and wait for it to finish?

3> once installed, do i have to reinstall all my apps and contacts, etc?

i'm searching the threads for this info, and im getting lost, and cant find it, if there's a thread with newb instructions to upgrading, that would be awesome as well.. sorry, and thanks!! :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] paschott:
1 - Hopefully, but that's still updated regularly. Have to check around on that. The thread should have the latest link, but I think some have mentioned that it was moved to the FTP site.

2 - I was able to run this against my 8125 without doing any mods. You may want to check on the unlocking threads, but I didn't have to.

3 - Yes - get a good backup of all of your contacts. If anything depends on the registry, try to get the settings exported. You probably don't want to restore an old registry backup over the upgraded one. Data on your SD card should be good, but programs will need to be reinstalled to work properly.

I've been running a couple of days now and no issues, though I see what people mean with that Cingular logo on the phone screen. :-)

-Pete
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Cing 8125:
Ok after many hours and searching the web I was able to fill in a little info from Arnolds post

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=32866

I added in the info I needed below

It looks like I have the backup on my mini sd, but I can't get the next step

to work which is to dump the sd card to file to store.

using ntrw.exe

I get this message

ntrw is not recongized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.

Anyone have a answer for this.

Again thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Cing 8125:
More answers to myself.

Found a newer version of ntrw and if is copying the files now.

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=60435
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] summiter:
Hope the upgrade to the custom AKU2 ROM goes well for you. Post here or on the thread I started in the upgrading forum if you run into any problems.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] summiter:
I was hoping someone would report the fact that they didn't have to CID unlock before using the custom upgrader. When I built it, I cleared out the CID field so that it *should* install on any device without CID unlocking. I had already unlocked my device so couldn't test the theory...glad it worked for you.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Cing 8125:
Hey Summiter,

The upgrade went great real smooth. You did a great job writing that program, nice prompts and status windows on both the pc and phone.

I was blown away. And my internet is so much faster; I wished I had clocked it before the upgrade.

Thanks, thanks, & thanks

:D
[Android Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] wreck013:
Hi I just had an LG P690 given to me and I would like to know the easiest way to root or framaroot my phone-

Android version- 2.3.4

Kernel Version- 2.6.35.10-perf

Build number- GRJ22

Software version- V10c-sep-29-2011

I'm probably hoping for too much with this phone but it would be really great if someone could point me in the direction of an .apk that i can download straight to the phone then boot it.

Any help will be muchly appreciated

Thank You
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrbitGum22:
Is there a 4.4 ROM out there that has the transparent status bar enabled? I've tried on a couple ROMS a framework that was made for them that added it, but it would make my device go into a boot loop.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrbitGum22:
Nobody?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] treesurf:
I think it should be able to enable this on any of the Kit Kat ROMs. In build.prop find the option that says something like ro.lowram=true and change it to false. After rebooting you should have the transparent status bar, but note that all of the other low ram tweaks will also be disabled.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrbitGum22:
Thank you! I've wanted this for a long time!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CataHd:
I found this on galaxy mini 2 forum

persist.sys.force_highendgfx

It enables the transparent status bar and lock screen widgets without losing the low memory enhancements :)

But i don't know where to ad it to work
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vNa5h:
in build.prop where else
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CataHd:
I tried but it didn't work :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vNa5h:
are u sure it enables lock screen widgets..

btw it should be in system.prop while building the rom
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] CataHd:
i read in galaxy mini 2 forum that it enabled all kitkat features without losing low ram enhancements
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] vNa5h:
no widgets..
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrei1015:
http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/57303/

http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/57471/
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] treesurf:
Sweet!
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Faizi Ch:
i tired but it made my notification panel transparent unless status bar. :(
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] OrbitGum22:
How do you use those?
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrei1015:
You have to wait for them to be merged to the branch and a tick will appear somewhere in your settings.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrei1015:
Well, the wait is over actually. Today's build will have this option included. Though, as I hear it, we are encouraged NOT to activate it.
[Nexus S Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] khimois:
YES!!! http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/57303/