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[Nexus 5 Accessories] canada2005:
Hey guys. Just telling you my experience.

The suctions cups didn't satisfy me enough on the locations on the window. They took up too much room. Also my dash is curved and it just didn't look correct when I attracted it via the 3m stickpad and suction cups.

I ended up breaking/pulling off the back mount on the actual dock and using some 3m doublesided tape on the back to stick it on my dash in a more functional spot.

I have had 1 problem with the dock. The sticky surface that the back of the phone sticks too, is starting to separate from the plastic housing. I have tried putting some daps of superglue in there and it works for awhile but ends up separating again.

Anyways a picture:

[IMG="Airdock"]https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-9FIxHvSGuJA/VEG2DidB5FI/AAAAAAAADjI/fmYOpIOWcAw/s1024/IMG_20141017_203103.jpg[/IMG]
[Nexus 5 Accessories] devastator83:
My replacement window mount arrived this week. It sticks to the window a lot better! Now it even keeps attached to my dashboard
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Crazy Chuckster:
I was just about to order mine but now I see that a version 2.0 is coming out I am going to hold off. Any idea on when it may be released to the public?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Lokke9191:
Im in the same boat. I was about to purchase one a couple weeks ago, until I caught wind of a 2nd version. I would also like an eta as i really want an air dock, but will kick myself if the 2nd version is available soon after I order the 1st version.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] devastator83:
I'm also looking for an extra one for my wife. What is the difference between the 2?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
The differences are that the new version will possibly have the charge port in a different position, an NFC chip may be added, and a different coil may be used, the mount will have more adjustable base connection. But until testing is complete, I don't think anything is official
[Nexus 5 Accessories] dougfalk:
I remember seeing the prototype that was put together and I didn't realize it went to a indigogo campaign. The air dock looks great and if I can think of a good, subtle place to put it in my car I will. But that's just it. I want it to be subtle., and a mount take up a lot of real estate. From everything that i have seen, the adhesive on the pad works VERY well for holding a phone on, especially if there are magnets too. But if it works so well to adhere to the phone, what's preventing it from having that same material on the back so that it can be mounted to a flat vertical surface? It would be nice to have something that could hold my phone closer to the dash (low profile). Makes for a cleaner install.

For those of you with Air Docks, how well would the pad adhere to a flat spot on your dash?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] rahularora1:
Hi guys, i have been using this consistently for the past few months on a lg g3, one plus one, iphone 6+ and now a note 4. It has worked fine on all of those except the 6+ with a slim case. Ofcourse the phones apart from the g3 dont have native qi built in, but have been using qi on the rest via the qi receivers. This has been a great product for me.

I have removed the ball joint and stuck the charging unit to a proclip/brodit mount on my car and its such a perfect clean solution with no cables running around at all.

Perfect!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] harrisonp:
Is there any cheap NFC tag that works well with this dock?

If not, is there a solution similar to this with NFC tag?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
The new version will have nfc
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Genebaby:
I'm looking to buy 2 of these but I'm waiting for V2 to be released.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Genebaby:
There you go, V2 is out, I've ordered two.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] WittePens:
http://is.gd/bFUiBe Nexus 6 + Airdock 2.0 Give away

And here is the new Indigogo campaign for Airdock 2.0

https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-air-dock-2-0

Since its black friday, you can still grab one at a cheaper price point.

I own a 1.0 airdock, have been using it ever since june 2014, and its simply the most amazing carkit I've owned up until now. I've just ordered a 2.0 because its pretty sweet pricepoint deal and the general improvements are nice too. The guy who makes it actually listenes to suggestions made by his customers. :fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ManHands:
Any one have any experience with dbrand skins? Do some stick better than others? And should I worry about the skin pulling off when removing from dock?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
I've had no issues with my slickwrap skin. once I clean off the sticky it holds so well that the nexus logo is embedded in the sticky haha
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
got my v2 beta unit this week with the new housing and so far things look good. haven't gotten a chance to really test it, but I threw on my Aliexpress slim armor and it charges just fine. NFC functionality is a nice addition and works as expected. while the ball mount is still angled, the USB is now on the back so you don't potentially have the cable sticking up out of the side. I'd still prefer a neutral ball joint like was in my v1 beta unit, but the design is definitely improved over the retail v1. when I get some free time I'll do some drive tests to see if charging is any better/faster, but as pretty much all qi chargers are the same given proper input I'm not expecting any changes
[Nexus 5 Accessories] sailindawg:
I've been testing the v2 beta for the past 6 weeks or so. Charging has improved. The charger doesn't over heat or overheat the phone.

I've also notice that the charger will trickle charge once 100% is reached.

However, if the screen is left on with GPS navigation & streaming music, the charger just maintains overall battery charge, just keeping up with what is used.

I'm currently using a Moto X 2nd Gen with a usb receiver.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Dougshell:
This device is incredible, so much so that I often take it for granted. I truly hope that once i get off deployment that he has a new version that sports the new qi charging standard.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] wamatt:
Anyone else feel like sharing experiences on the 2.0 units?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Genebaby:
The two I ordered didn't work, could not charge and the magnets also seem to do nothing.

I use them as expensive phone holders.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] wamatt:
Yikes.. were the units defective? What type of phone/case combo were you using?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Genebaby:
I guess they are defective, I'm using an S4 with Spigen Slim Armor case that charges on all my other Qi stuff. It won't change on the air dock even without a case.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Genebaby:
I'm going to get one of these 3 coil chargers which can also hold multiple phone sizes and have good reviews on charging placement due to the three coils.

Other bonuses, no more having to find a case with a smooth back to stick to the Airdock and no more wiping the Airdock so it's sticky again and will hold your phone without dropping it.

https://floureon.wordpress.com/qi-wireless-charger/qi-wireless-car-charger-dock/

There are a few different brands out there that are the same as this, like Ravpower, but Floureon is the cheapest on Ebay in Australia, your mileage may vary.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Glad you joined in on the convo. I backed in hopes of getting one. I like this option and thinks it is a bit future proof, meaning it can be used for future phones, which is a good thing IMO. GL to you and I hope I get one!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] frigidazzi:
I am a bit optimistic. I hope it can provide enough power because I would love this, but from my personal experience with the lg puck and the holder in the car plus the owl pad car dock neither could reliably gain charge with nav, bt streaming, and screen on auto brightness. They would gain very small charges for short distance, but once it warms up (like we all know gps, charging, and streaming do) is when it would start losing charge. I went from 90 to 70 percent charge in a 2 hour time period (with the lg puck) with everything on. The phone was extremely hot at the end. This is in Oregon on a cold day mind you. Imagine the summer.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
I just made a contribution. This seems to be exactly what I am looking for. I hope it gets funded!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Xave1:
I went ahead and ordered one with the magnets for Nexus 5 and $20 UK shipping. So a reasonable investment especially if I have to pay import duties.

As others, I am slightly sceptical about its charging ability.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mistahseller:
I use the Cig lighter with a belkin charger deal, car is too old for usb port.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] EvanJ18:
Just contributed. Good luck man!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mmmmBACON:
What is the output of your Qi charger? Also, what is the output of your cig lighter adapter?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mistahseller:
I would assume the input is 12v the output on the charger is 2.1amps

I take it back it is not a belkin it is an incase http://goincase.com/shop/incase-universal-mini-car-charger
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
If you're plugging that into your phone directly you're likely only pulling 500mah. Anker is the only manufacturer I've found that has the proper wiping to provide Android devices with 2.1a. Almost all are made with the iPad in mind, which requires a different wiring in the charger to deliver 2.1a.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Rhatfield25:
I noticed the first time you pulled the S4 off the charger it has quite a snap back. But the N5 didn't. Is that because of the phone? Or magnets? And does navigation still work with the magnetic version? Thank you so much
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Tqpolo:
Has this been tested with a case in?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] marcrandom:
It will be interesting to see case compatibility here. So far we seem to have seen Qi charging works through most cases, but there's still the matter of how various cases impact both the magnetic and sticky holding mechanisms. As for me, I love the concept of this, so if it won't work with my case I'll find a different case that does.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ritzxda:
Hi, I contributed a couple of days ago but have just read that International Shipping is an additional $20USD. Sorry this wasn't visible under the pricing so I didn't add another $20. Would you ship for a lower price? If not, is there a way I can pull out? Sorry but $65USD is just too high for me as it's over $80 in my currency and I already have some $15 chargers I can modify myself. Obviously no disrespect to the project and your product; it looks awesome and I'd love one...however I can't justify paying $80+ for it sorry. Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] pjpugliese:
Thanks for your update!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Hank-Rearden:
Yes, it works fine with a case, so long as the case isn't terribly thick. Most average cases are 2mm and it starts losing charging ability around 4mm. If the case is glossy it will stick to the micro suction foam great. the magnetic pull will be less as it's further away. I can only recommend a glossy case because of this. I don't have a glossy case for my N5 at the moment, but I have done quite a bit of testing on a GS4 in a glossy TPU case, and with no magnetic pull it works just fine. The N5 would only be better because it's getting a little magnetic pull.

As far as doubting it's charging ability, it's not really any different than the host of wireless chargers out there. They don't provide the same fast charge as being plugged in. That's just how wireless charging is. It is possible to have even worse charging time if the coil in the phone and the coil in the charger aren't aligned. As you use a charger more and more you will learn where the perfect center spot is. The magnets help with this a lot, because they pull it to center as you are placing it on the dock.

Good questions guys. Keep em coming

---------- Post added at 03:14 AM ---------- Previous post was at 03:06 AM ----------

I am completely powerless to refund anything until the campaign ends. I don't have any control over the money side unless we hit our goal, and then I can start refunding as I see fit. If and when we fund, I'll see how much shipping is to your country and try to help you out. If you still want out, we can talk then.

Sorry the detail on international shipping wasn't in the payment section. Indiegogo wouldn't let me add it once the campaign was live.

Thanks for your support!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Tqpolo:
How much current is the charger putting out?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ritzxda:
No worries. Thanks a lot and all the best :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Hank-Rearden:
1 Amp.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] elementaldragon:
If i had to guess, it's probably from the adhesion of the sticky pad. I have something i'm pretty sure is similar (Grippy Pad) that they say you can use to put stuff on your dashboard and keep it in place (though i've never used it in that way), and when i had my Motorola Atrix 4G, i tried sticking that to it without a case. If i really gave it a good press into the pad and tried to pull it off, i could actually pull the phone away from the removable back cover on the phone by only pulling on the phone. The back plate would still be stuck to the pad. As expected, the backplate on the N5 is more secure than that of most other phones since the back plate isn't meant to be removed for anything.

And i'm really thinking about contributing. Would be nice to have.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Tqpolo:
How will temperature affect the adhesive back? I'm thinking of the 100+ degree inside in the summer. Will it be too sticky?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] marcrandom:
Camera usable?

Based on the pictures, I'm guessing that (at least on the Nexus 5) the camera lens is left uncovered and usable while docked. Do I have that right? If so, then with appropriate software this could let you use the phone as a rudimentary dashcam.

I suspect the lens would be too narrow to be very good at it; what you'd really want is a wide-angle lens for dashcam functionality.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Rhatfield25:
Man, Im so on the fence about this. Ive been wanting to make a magnetic wireless charger for my car so bad, but this... is finished. And would cost less than if i made one.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
I literally had all the pieces to make one, just hadn't put it together yet when I saw this. It looks better and is cheaper, no real reason not to get it imo
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Lucke:
Got my early bird a few days ago. can't wait to get it and try it out...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] hOrnizuka:
Love the idea! Would be great if someone can figure out a hack to get that magnet working with Nexus 5 + case.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] OregonLawyer:
You just need a more powerful magnet.

I wonder how powerful a magnet one could use before messing up the phone?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Hank-Rearden:
Or put a little sticker with thin pieces of sheet metal between the case and the phone....

I've tried it. Works great. You just have to get the right size and spacing of the sheet metal discs.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] hOrnizuka:
Will it work if i put a large sheet of metal between the case and the phone? Is spacing of sheet metal discs needed?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] [Headcrash]:
Did you thought about using the universal mounting brackets like they are used by brodit? (http://www.sanbo.de/out/1/html/0/dyn_images/1/hr_richter_adapter_brodit_halterungen_1498_p1.jpg)

Brodit has tons of Proclip mounts for almost every car and they seem to be much more stable than a sunction cup and they also look much cleaner. Just my opinion for that.

Greetings from Germany
[Nexus 5 Accessories] aimetti:
darn!!

been waiting for something like this , wish i would have seen this in time for the early bird pricing.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] gfunkmagic:
Can you post pics of this? I'd like to try this too... tx
[Nexus 5 Accessories] hOrnizuka:
I'm afraid rubbing metal disc against the back of the phone could damage it. But then if you stick it to the outside of the case, you'll be rubbing against the wireless charger itself...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Hank-Rearden:
I had this same concern. It would definitely need to be addressed. The way I was hoping to accomplish it was to put the pieces of metal touching the case, and then a sticker of some sort over them. That way the sticker rubs on the phone, and the metal on the case. Obviously you would care more about the phone, so you would sacrifice the case to any scratching the metal would do.

Sorry I don't really have any pictures, and I'm starting to get really busy as the campaign is gaining momentum. Sorry if I am not around much to respond.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] OregonLawyer:
Congrats as well, given the level of interest it looks like you will reach the funding goal within the next 5-7 days if not sooner.

I hate to get my hopes up on things like this so I don't typically order until the goal is within reach.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] zoglog:
Thanks for posting this guys, Just what I was looking for.

I didn't see anywhere to specify type of phone.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Lucke:
That's what I'm doing instead of buying the Nexus 5 dock from ProClip. Just reusing some parts from my Nexus 4 dock.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
if I were to use a case I'd get some felt with adhesive backing to hold the plate onto the inside of the case
[Nexus 5 Accessories] OregonLawyer:
Price went up $13....

I may go the diy route.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ritzxda:
Nice work getting it reviewed by Android Police.

http://www.androidpolice.com/2014/01/08/hands-on-the-air-dock-wireless-car-charger-might-get-everything-right/
[Nexus 5 Accessories] zoglog:
That quote is confusing. I thought there was only 1 version of this dock
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ritzxda:
They've got a magnetic version which is recommended for the Nexus 5.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] revolve82:
Does this used the same micro suction material as the milo stand

http://www.amazon.com/Lounge-Design-ML-WH-SUB-Micro-Suction-Smartphones/dp/B005LNM1XU
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ctbear:
$60001...congrats on reaching the goal :good:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] zoglog:
I didn't see anywhere where you could specify which one you need though. I thought they all ship with magnets and the foam.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] jhzhu:
great project idea. contributed!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ritzxda:
Good point! It wasn't very clear at the time I pledged but there was some text saying if you're a Nexus 5 user then let us know and we'll send you the magnetic version. I've just skimmed through the page again and this seems to have disappeared. Perhaps they included this into the one version? Hope so!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
I got my tester unit today, haven't gone for a ride yet but it looks pretty good. I'll try and do some road tests tomorrow and get pictures posted
[Nexus 5 Accessories] zoglog:
awesome, keep us posted
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ljesh:
It's extremely expensive to me although it looks nice and way overpriced.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Well you can kind of say that with anything like wireless chargers, screen protectors, cases, etc., it's no different accessory wise. If it works, it's worth it. And according to sources like Androidpolice, which they reviewed pretty positively, I am personally amped in getting in on the early bird list for a black version!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ljesh:
Not really...

Air dock $63 (the device) + $18 (shipping) = $81 total

on the other hand,

wireless charger $17 (total)

screen protector (i have no idea, have not purchased one yet but let's say the average goes between 10 and 15 USD, we will use $15 in this calculation) $15

case $11 (total)

So, Air dock $81 total, and the 3 other products go for like $43 total.

That is still my opinion, whoever wants can order the Air dock, be my guest.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
I understand the reasoning. My opinion is that expensive is what a person is willing to pay for something that someone will actually use day to day. If you are buying this to use it occasionally, then I agree with you in that regards. However, I tend to agree, the international shipping is steep. But is expected when dealing with crowdsourceing like indiegogo and kickstarter.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] icethegreat:
all the cheaper levels sold out quick :crying: will hope you need more testers :laugh: will check back. (cant afford $60 charger) GREAT JOB and idea nonetheless! :highfive:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] OregonLawyer:
Chargers used to be $49 and $45 (early bird). They raised the price after the dock became popular / broke 30k.

I would order one for $49. The developer suggested that I buy two for $95.... kind of a d-ick move.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] icethegreat:
Just business. Don't take it personally, especially if you got 2 cars lol
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
Let's try it with an apples to apples comparison...

Air dock, 2.1a car charger and USB cable - $63+shipping (yes, international is steep but that doesn't apply to everyone)

Nexus wireless charger $50

-I searched amazon and eBay and couldn't find another qi charger with magnets. Yes, you may be able to fabricate one but you're looking at around $30 in parts and it's going to look like a hacked together solution

Window mount - $10-15

2.1a charger -$10

Total: $70-75, plus shipping potentially

So, when you actually compare the cost of doing it yourself the air dock is around the same price, if not cheaper. Plus, it's a retail product and looks as such, not something you put together in your kitchen
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ljesh:
IF the Air dock uses nexus wireless charger, you won. If it uses some kind of wireless charger plate, you lost my darling.

I didn't mean to start a war anyway, I just made my opinion public like ~50 other people have made theirs on this thread.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
I use the nexus charger because it's the only other qi charger available with magnets, all qi chargers are just wireless charging plates.

It may be expensive for you, but it's by no means overpriced. That's just the cost of materials I went over, nothing about r&d, manufacturing, logistics, etc
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
Don't forget this was designed and engineered by a dude in his house. Not some major accessories maker in China.

I'm gladly paying the premium for this.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
Did a little testing today and this thing looks great so far. In 15 min of screen off charging my battery went from 45-55%. On a quick trip to the store with display on auto brightness, google maps navigation and google play music streaming over LTE it still charged at around 1% every 4 minutes. I'll try and do some testing with the battery above 80% and see if it still charges under load, but it looks very promising.

A few notes:

-the included car charger is surprisingly good. It's a dual 2.1/1a charger and out of the 2.1 port I was pulling around 1.2-1.3a plugged in directly. For reference, my current 2.1a charger puts out around 900ma.

-the led is red and bright, but no so much to be annoying

-when wirelessly charging I was getting just shy of 700 peak, and it didn't matter which port I plugged into.

-The included USB cable is crap when I tested it with a wall charger, but in the car I found charging to be the same with any cable I tried.

-The magnets don't feel quite as strong as the nexus charger, but I don't foresee any issues with the phone staying put.

-keep in mind, my unit is a tester unit so some of the edges are a bit rough since they were 3d printed, the rest of the units will all be manufactured. That said, I think it looks great although I'd prefer all black
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mrro82:
Looks sharp. Did you test the magnets with a case on by chance?

Sent from the jaws of my Hammerhead!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
I did not, but if it's a glossy case the microsuction should fill in for the magnets being weaker. A thicker case may work, but I wouldn't trust it. Personally, what I would do with a bigger case is get a metal plate to mount behind the case and affix it with an adhesive felt to protect the phone.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] hOrnizuka:
Can you separate the charging pad and stand?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] finalhit:
Looks like it's connected via a 17mm ball joint