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[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
As noted in the guide (in all capital letters), the CSipSimple app does not apply filters, which is why your wont see your GV number when dialing with the CSip dialer. You must use the native dialer for the filters to work.

You most likely didn't configure something properly, probably the filters. When dialing out on your native dialer, if everything is properly configured, a window should appear prompting you with a choice to select the FreedomPop account to dial out on. If you're not prompted with that choice, then I suggest you go over the steps to ensure you have everything configured properly, pay careful attention to the CSipSimple Settings, and that they are all properly configured as explained in the guide.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
Do you use Google Voice? Just curious, cause I would love to eliminate the need of a Sip app, and just configure the native dialer with the FreedomPop sip information.

However, without the sip app, the only other way I know to try and automatically call out with a GV number is to install an app called Voice+ (Google Voice Callback), and the times I tried that app, it didn't reliably make calls.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] drcameron:
I am prompted to select the FreedomPop account, but I get a female voice recording that says, "I'm sorry the information you have provided is not correct. To access your account....." I've gone through various filter settings from the thread trying the *, additional commas, changing the DTMF delay values and always get this message. In my GV account I have both selected and then deselected forwarding to my FP number - same message either way. I do not have a pin to worry about. Using the CSipSimple app alone works fine, so I'm guessing it is configured correctly.

Edit: I added a pin to my GV account and used the pin filter settings. Now it dials out correctly. It takes about 7 seconds to get there, but it works.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
I updated the guide to include two methods to choose from. If anyone sees a problem with the instructions, or experiences problems, please post it up to see if any issues can be resolved. Thanks.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] drcameron:
Has anyone successfully linked a Bluetooth device for calls using the methods here? I can make the call on the phone and switch to Bluetooth afterward, but cannot use hands free calling to make the call through Bluetooth. For example in my car I can link my phone. I can access my contact list, but when the Bluetooth dials the number it fails to complete the call and just exits out. If however, I am on a call and enter the car, I can switch the call to the car speakers without a problem.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] harrleon:
Doesn't quite work for me...Why?

I have a BYOD w/ FreedomPop and use a Epic 4G Touch.

I followed all of the instructions and use no PIN for GV.

FreedomPop is listed as "Registered" in CSipSimple. The two filters are set.

But when I attempt a call, I hear that the party I'm trying to reach is unavailable.

And when I try to receive a call, the E4GT doesn't ring. Though GV does forward the voicemail later.

Q1: What else might I adjust?

Q2: Does the GV full integration work-around work on 3G and not just WiFi?

Q3: If this work-around saves battery due to the FP app not "ON" (uninstalled), how does CSipSimple "stay awake" for receiving calls?

Q4: Does CSipSimple work over 3G, too?

Thanks!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
Are you getting the CSipSimple prompt upon dialing out? Sounds to me you're dialing out via the native dialer. I posted a pic illustrating the type of prompt you should be getting upon dialing out.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
I haven't tried it yet with bluetooth, though I have a feeling it wont work since you need to physically choose the CSipSimple prompt upon dialing out. There is a way to configure a filter to directly dial, which is something that would have to looked into for bluetooth compatibility.

You may want to look into using the alternative filters guide to see if works better. Go to the CSipSimple Method, and theres added instructions for an alternative method to using the filters.

EDIT

I made a directly call filter, and added it to my existing filters. It appears to work, and hopefully it should resolve the issue of bluetooth connectivity. I posted a pic of how to make the "Directly call" filter. Simply make the additional filter, and add it to the existing filters you already made. Just make sure this filter is positioned last among the other filters.

By adding this additional filter, it will directly call the number you place, thereby eliminating the prompt you're used to getting from CSipSimple.

Test it out, and let me know if it works as advertised. if so, I'll change the guide to include the directly call option.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] harrleon:
Fixed!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] El.Dante565:
Does this setup allow for VoIP? And will it be affected by the shut down of xmpp?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] drcameron:
I'll put it together this evening in my car and see if it works. Even with the FP app I can make the call, but still have to press the BT button on my Epic Touch to hear on my speakers, which defeats the point of "hands free." :(

I really want the CsipSimple method to work because I can then use google as my free voice mail provider. Ironically I get about the same battery life with this or the FP app set to Wifi.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
This guide is for FreedomPop subscribers that have an active FreedomPop account. This is NOT an alternative free solution for services such as PBXee, GrooveIP, or Talkatone.Those Google Voice options are gone once Google ends XMPP third party access in mid May.

You can get unlimited VoIP by purchasing an Unlimited Talk and Text subscription from FreddomPop for around $12 monthly.

If you have the FREE Basic-200 FreedomPop plan that allots you 200 minutes talk monthly, then you DO NOT have unlimited VoIP. You are limited to 200 minutes talk monthly regardless if you're using data or internet for calling.

From what I understand, Google Voice (forwarding, call back, voice mail) will remain the same. So this method might be the only convenient solution left for calling through Google to have your GV number received by the party you're calling. Hopefully that will not change.

As for texting, I still don't know. I think everything is being consolidated into Google HangOuts, and I'm still uncertain how texting will work, either through HangOuts or if the GV app will still be used or abandoned.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] drcameron:
The direct call sort of works on BT, the call begins but takes too long to process. The BT gives up too soon. I'll keep trying to see if I can get the timing to work.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
It appears FreedomPop revised the account information for Username and Account ID. These now need to be added into CSipSimple in a different way, otherwise you won't gain access.

I'm not sure if your current configuration will now fail, but if it does, then follow the revised instructions in the CSipSimple Method under account information, to see the new way of inputting your Username and Account ID.

I haven't updated the AOSP method yet, so if you need to change that, look over the revised instructions in the CSipSimple Method to get an idea of what to enter.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bads3ctor:
I'm on Cyanogenmod 11 and am using the AOSP dialer for freedompop VOIP calls. I am using the "old" method for username and password and I am still able to send and receive calls.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
I'm not sure how, but my old username and account id became invalidated after I installed and logged in with the FreedomPop Messenger app that was updated on 3.7. I tried to use my old account id and username with the CSipSimple client and kept receiving an unauthorized error.

That's when I re-checked the database on the updated FreedomPop app and found my username and account id were now different.

Its possible that if you logon with the updated FreedomPop Messaging app, it will generate a new username and account id that's necessary for all future logon's.

If anyone want to try and confirm, then logon with the new FreedomPop Messaging app, but be prepared to extract the new username and account id in case you no longer can logon with your old credentials in CSipSimple.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bads3ctor:
This sounds right...I started using AOSP dialer a few days ago with the "old" username and password and stopped using CSipSimple and FreedomPop app. I can still dial out and receive calls.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tekone:
I'm still using the old method and make and recived call. Some how I'm able to send Txt message using csipsimply app. But can not received txt. Have any figure out yet? What I mean not the google txt..The freedompop text message giving out by freedompop.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vicmarkus:
I cannot open the updated db in squilt. It seems they locked it out now. Anyone else having problems extracting information?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] yeswap:
I had no trouble extracting the data a couple of days ago from version 12.01.01.0307 of the FreedomPop app.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] vicmarkus:
I tried it again no luck. Maybe titanium doesn't like my classic rom/kernal, I'm going to restore original freedodpop rom and see if that works as I extracted this info before with no problems

EDIT:

OK it worked going back to freedompop rom, pretty strange I was getting different files along the .db file when on classic rom. (scatching my head)
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Zuljita:
This guide is really neat and I'm excited about the possibilities... however, I followed the guide and am getting a 404 error when i try to make calls, inbound works great though. Any ideas what's causing that?

**Edit**

I stand corrected... it works on 4g not on wifi or 3g... trying some setting corrections myself.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] phigan:
I have not been using Google Voice, but what happens when you have the native dialer set up to always do internet calls and then you install the official Google Voice app, setting it to route all calls through Google Voice?

Remember about the + thing, you might need to have that prefixer app remove a + if Google Voice adds one.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Captain_Throwback:
I'm having trouble getting the native dialer to authenticate on my newly activated EVO 3D on FreedomPop. I used the same process as previously, but apparently the password is incorrect. I'm going to see if a different ROM makes any difference.

I've also noticed on my OG EVO that my Internet call feature often times out, requiring an uncheck and recheck of the "Receive incoming calls" option, in order to authenticate properly.

I'm not sure if this is related to recent application updates or not.

EDIT: Yes, it is the application update. I had to add the additional username information to get it working, but now it appears to be working properly. I'm not certain if I should try updating the Username on my OG EVO and see if that prevents the time outs as well.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Mysticcal:
This is perfect info, Really appreciate it.

My only caveat is google voice app seems to block ANY AOSP calling when it airplane mode (SIP calling over WIFI included) i'll keep looking for a solution for this "bug"

EDIT: Fixed it, in google voice app, don't allow google voice to make calls. This gives me the best of everything.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] hun-chan:
Battery life greatly improved after switch to Zoiper

First off, thanks for the great info copota. I followed your native dialer instructions to the T, and got my Epic 4G touch running KitKat with FreedomPop and Google voice integrated flawlessly. I was delighted, but I noticed heavy repercussions in the form of greatly reduced battery life as compared to using the FreedomPop app on stock gingerbread. So I tried the Csipsimple method, and noticed a modest improvement in battery life. Then, I tinkered around with a number of Csipsimple configurations, battery saving apps, and a wakelock detector to try and diagnose why Csipsimple was constantly hammering on the battery. Lastly, I decided to try some other SIP clients. I tried the whole lot of them, with mixed results, but one app really stood out, Zoiper.

Using Zoiper fully doubled my battery life, and the call quality was actually better then Csipsimple. The wakelock detector shows that Zoiper rarely wakes the CPU or wifi, but somehow it doesn't miss calls. I dunno how the Zoiper devs did it but they seem to have very effectively optimized its resource management. You can grab it on the play store, and it is a breeze to set up. Just enter the data extracted from the Freedomphone database and off you go. It also handles multiple accounts beautifully if you happen to have another SIP number, like me. If anyone else is struggling with battery life on a freedom phone, give it a shot.

Also, as a little shortcut for the data extraction, I found a method that eliminates the need for a PC, just use the Zarchiver app to extract the database file, and sqlite Database Editor to copy the name and password fields directly into your SIP client.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ylafont:
No save option

I was happily following the provided instructions on the first post. Upon completing the new entry, I scroll to the bottom and my save options is grayed out. i can only cancel. Did i miss a step?

:Edit:

I just noticed that the Account ID does not change color to white when it is completed. I am assuming it is a required filed and performing check of some sort.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Merudo:
Thank you very much for this method!

I have been using Voice+(Google Voice callback) for a while now. It works good, except I get annoying delay before each call as I wait for the callback :).

I was wondering if your method has other advantages (improved voice quality, battery usage, etc.) that would make it worth it for me to switch.

Also, if I uninstall the freedompop messenging app, I stop receving texts to my freedompop number AND my other messenging app takes 5+minutes to report the new text. Did anyone manage to fix that?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] ylafont:
The latest revision of the app solved the problem!

---------- Post added at 10:32 AM ---------- Previous post was at 10:17 AM ----------

Part of the guide on the initial page states the "FreedomPop Messaging app will need to be uninstalled", however there are no specific steps throughout the guide instructing to do so.

Does one just takes it for granted and remove it?

also is there a way to have ones Google number sent as the caller id instead of the FreedomPop number?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] voip777:
help

Can you help explain step by step where to find the information on your phone to set up the zoiper account, information like host,port, username password. I am a freedompop user and hate the call quality and battery drain.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
Recently I was was experiencing call quality issues using CSipSimple after a new ROM install. I checked all my settings and compared them to the FreedomPop Messaging app settings, and all was configured the same, yet call quality was total garbage.

EDIT: I removed my workaround for the call quality issues, because I found out what was causing the problem.

I changed my codec in the Media settings to the Opus codec, since I saw that was the codec currently being used in the FreedomPop Messaging app.

I switched back to the original codecs that I previously used, and the call quality returned to normal.

So, in the end, it was using the wrong codecs that caused my call quality issues.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] torch2424:
Hello! I got a Epic Touch 4g from freedompop about a month ago. And I wanted to use the AOSP method. However, I don't use google voice, and I was curious if the AOSP method will allow me to send/receive texts like I would from the messaging app? Or will only the CSIP method do this? thank you!

Also, does anyone know if 4.3 works with the messaging app like 4.2? or is it only after 4.3 the app breaks?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Tekone:
Can you this method will work on S 3 or S 4 with Freedompop?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] bilgerryan:
Worth a shot
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
Just as an FYI, Google integrated Google Voice with Google Hangouts. Now you can make AND receive phone calls right from the Google Hangouts app. This also means you can receive phone calls over WiFi made to your Google Voice phone number, and yes, you can receive texts sent to your Google Voice number as well.

You'll need the latest Google Hangouts app installed version 2.3, which might not be available yet in the Google Play store as of this post. You'll also need to install the Hangouts dialer. Plus, ensure you have the "Incoming phone calls" setting ticked, which can be found in the Hangouts app setting page for your account.

Google Hangouts app on the Playstore link

Hangouts dialer app on the Playstore link

If the Playstore doesn't have Hangouts 2.3 yet, you can download the APK from this site
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] macallik:
I'm curious what everyone thinks are the potential effects that this has on the validity of Freedompop as a mobile carrier. I got the FreedomPop Evo 4G at the launch but the VoIP call quality was pretty spotty. Now though, if I can completely avoid their VoIP and use Hangouts, then I have a reliable free phone plan much like the people using their tablet as a phone...
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Captain_Throwback:
But you still need a mobile carrier to use data. Hangouts will work over WiFi or data, but without a mobile plan from a Carrier (like FreedomPop), you'll only be able to use it in places where you have a WiFi connection.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
If you give up Freedompop then you lose mobile broadband access. So when you leave the house, if you can't connect to wifi hotspots, then your mobile device is useless. You still need Freedompop to be mobile.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] macallik:
Sorry, to clarify I meant that this could be something that pushes Freedompop into the forefront as a viable mobile carrier. They couldn't get off the ground as a carrier previously because their VoIP calls were mediocre but now, you can use their basic (free) mobile data plan, completely avoid their VoIP solution, and just use Hangouts. I am on the T-Mobile 5GB plan currently which I love, but economically, nothing beats free.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Captain_Throwback:
The big question is, how much data do Hangouts calls use?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
Freedompops free mobile plan didn't include voip, only their paid plans included voip, which was an incentive to switch to their paid plan. I don't think Google free service will affect freedompop since most people don't want a Google voice number.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] macallik:
Based on the two overseas calls I have made, I am looking at 690KBps. On Freedompop's Basic plan, 1GB plan (after including FreedomFriends) means that I would have about 193 minutes a month.

My personal experience seems to be higher than average though based on other data consumption rates I've seen posted. My two calls were both international calls (one 1,400 miles away) so if distance affects data consumption, then the average Hangouts user will have much more minutes than that.

I am not sure if I am misunderstanding you, but FreedomPop's free phone plan comes with 200 free VoIP minutes and 500MB
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] copota:
Yes, you get 200 minutes talk time, not free unlimited VOIP with their basic free plan. If you're attached to WiFi you still use up the 200 minutes your allotted for talk, and when those minutes are gone, you would either have to buy more time, or wait till your new cycle.

The only way to get free voip over wifi was to use Google Voice with GrooveIp, or one of those other services that took advantage of XMPP access. Though, Google killed off XMPP for thier service, therefore that was no longer an option till now, since Google integrated Voice with Hangouts.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] macallik:
Yes I am aware of this, I am on this plan and use it on an infrequent basis. If you agree that users get 200 minutes, why did you say earlier that the free plan didn't get any VoIP minutes?

Since I have the T-Mobile plan and a Nexus 4, my FP Evo 4G phone was just lying around, but with that said, I am like 70% sure WiFi calls are free as long as you go into airplane mode/Turn off Mobile Data prior to making a WiFi call.

Vonage Mobile app consistently remained an option, GrooveIP and Talkatone made adjustments as well (although older versions of the GrooveIP apk still worked for many users I've)

But yeah, lets not get too far off track.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] nickhere:
thank for the extract guide freedom pop to csip

the freedom pop phones usually have clockwork mod in it recovery

boot into recovery and do a backup.

connect your phone to your pc and use total commander to look at the back up files

you can then extract the freedom pop information

what nice about using csip

unlimited voice on wifi by using free sip accounts

ability to unregistered disable freedom pop.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PitCritter:
If I'm happy strictly using GV and another SIP account through CSIPSimple, then what is my best approach? I'm basically using FP for the free 4G data. I use Text+ for SMS. My main concern is battery drain. Can I feeze or uninstall "Messaging"? How about any dialer app, including the native one?
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
I've frozen and uninstalled both those apps. Its usually bad. It's better to ignore them.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PitCritter:
I bought my GSIII from CL and did a BYOD on FP.

That involved activating and installing the FP flavored ROM with the dialer and messaging app integrated.

I'm happy with the device and ecstatic about the 4G data speeds.

I'm not happy with the performance and especially battery drain of this setup.

I am rooted.

If I revert to a vanilla stock Sprint ROM, or install something else like CM will I still connect properly to Sprint 4G?

I have no interest in FPs free talk minutes or SMS. I'll strictly use Hangouts for GV and CSIPSimple or Zoiper for my other SIP account (FreePhoneLine.ca).
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] Linux guy:
Um I don't know what cl is. Nor do I know much about any of the different versions of the gs3. Still, I'm pretty sure that going to stock is your best bet.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] PitCritter:
Sorry, I worked for the government for too long. Acronyms are in the blood :).

CL is Craigslist.

I've since installed a full stock ROM, rooted it and frozen most of the bloatware with Titanium Backup.

So far, I'm pretty impressed. I have not installed any of the FreedomPop apps. I'm using Hangouts w/ Hangouts dialer for most of my calls (all incoming).

I use Zoiper for my other SIP account (outgoing only when needed). I don't let it run in the background to save battery power. My main SIP account forwards to my Google Voice number, so I get all my incoming calls.

I'm new to the Sprint world, so I thought that there might have been some hiccups along the way. There were none. As soon as I flashed the stock ROM, it came up with the correct settings to access FreedomPop's LTE 4G. I did not need to re-activate or anything of the sort.

Battery life seems much improved so far, but I'll know better when I get back to work tomorrow.

It looks like I've found my solution. Time will tell.
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] torch2424:
I can confirm that the original messaging app (Not the free text and call one) words on vanir 4.4.4. I'm currently using the 10/2(something)/14 build and it works like a charm!
[Samsung Epic 4G Touch] kzqc:
I confirm the same. This means that the methods described in this guide is pretty much unnecessary any more. Sure they are very informative.