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[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
It is a ball joint that can be separated, not sure of the size but 17mm is a good bet.

Did some more drive testing today with the phone up above 80%. It did charge slower, as expected, but the good news is that even under load it still charged. Display on, navigation running and play music streaming it charged about 1% every 7-8min, below 80% it was charging about twice that fast under load. Screen off, simply charging I went from 81-89% in 15min, in earlier testing I went 45-55% in that time so while it is slower it's not terribly so.

After a few days I'm really impressed. If you want a wireless dock for your car the air dock is definitely the way to go right now. It is a bit expensive, but I've outlined earlier that'll it'll probably cost you the same or more to build it with the nexus charger. Really glad I got in on this early, but I'd easily pay $70 for it.

Edit to add that the magnets don't appear to mess with anything. The compass works perfectly.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
Pretty poor reviews on the GripGo mount, does this use different plastic to attach the phone to it?

From the GripGo reviews, people say that it works great for while but after couple weeks it's useless.

Thanks
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
It uses magnets to do the bulk of the work. I've only seen, not used the go grip and this eyes seem to be different. I spoke with the developer yesterday and the production unit has stronger magnets closer to the surface than the tester prototypes. Even still, my tester unit holds my naked n5 just fine
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
Well, so there is no difference from Google official charger, this was tempting for me with thick case on N5 or for N4.

In this case I will keep looking. This should be made clear in the selling pitch instead of talking about special polyurethane......
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
It does have that, but he's pretty clear to say that works great with glossy surfaces rather than the soft touch plastic of the n5. If you have a glossy case the microsuction will hold it very well, but with a matte surface like the n5 and many cases have the magnets will do most of the work, and the microsuction will be secondary
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
Love to see the microsuction material after couple weeks of use. Unless this is some new technology I yet have to see one that works after some use.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Jrmiller:
pretty sure you can clean it with a damp cloth and it works like new, if it gets dirty that is.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
Read some reviews they don't (Gripgo, Milo....)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Jrmiller:
weird. my sister has a grip go for her iphone and hers works great. even after cleaning. o well maybe this one will be different :good:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
Apparently it works for while but then it stops working. Sun is another killer.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] finalhit:
they did a shake test on the video so I assume it's pretty secure
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
I have no doubt it will work when brand new.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
Again, the microsuction doesn't play much of a role for the n5. You could completely remove it and the phone would still stick just fine
[Nexus 5 Accessories] RadarBeep:
that cool hope it works well
[Nexus 5 Accessories] lifeisfun:
I suspect that this is the material they use on that mount

https://www.inventables.com/technologies/suction-cup-tape
[Nexus 5 Accessories] zoglog:
Still hoping they'll meet their shipping targets :)

Looking forward to this one. Since I prefer matte cases, I hope the magnets will be strong enough.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] atcjeff:
Anyone have problems with overheating while charging with the screen on? My N5 will overheat if on wireless charging with screen on.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
I've had no issues with it
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mousi:
Will this work with the spigen neo hybrid case? I mean charging and holding (since it's a matte case)...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
Not with the prototype, but he's beefed up the magnets for the retail version so possibly. I'd tend to think not though, since that's a pretty thick case.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
I have the Spigen Neo Hybrid case. The magnets will not catch on the Nexus Wireless charger, even though you feel it trying. The Neo Hybrid is pretty thick.However wireless charging still occurs. Not sure how well the sticky stuff is on matte surfaces.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
Looks like the Early Bird backers are getting theirs shipped next week. I can't wait!

I opted for the black one with both the standard and long neck mount.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Got the email last night as well. Ordered the CD player mount in black :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] heiNey:
i just found out about this and am interested. any idea when they'll be finalized for retail sale?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
You can order here: http://www.theairdock.com
[Nexus 5 Accessories] ryoen:
Lool... The message that you get when you want to order is: This product is currently out of stock, and is expected back in September

Sorry, what a joke... Nobody wants to wait till september... Link: http://www.theairdock.com/products/air-dock
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
It was May when I posted it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
Just got my shipping notice for my AirDock (I was in the Early Bird category). March 13 arrival to San Francisco.

Super excited.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
Nice! I got an invoice for my extra mount yesterday and paid it promptly. Hopefully it ships soon!

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
Right. I should have added that I ordered the black one, for the Nexus 5, and only the standard mount.

Though I suspect I may be adding the longer mount in the future.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Lucke:
same thing here to OC...
[Nexus 5 Accessories] finalhit:
Just received mine. Looks great, and charge rate was ok. (3 hrs from 10 to 100)

Major complaint is the build quality. The grip surface works too well. When the phone is on the charger for a while, the grip gets tight (I imagine the magnets enhances the suction as time passes. This is great except when pulling the phone off, it causes the face to pull off (or start to) the charger body.

It looks like the face is glued into the body, and I'm not sure its the best route they could have taken. Considering washing the face it's standard way to refresh the micro suction's efficacy, not sure how this going to hold up.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
that problem will go away after a few weeks as the face gets a bit dirty. when I first got mine it would leave an imprint of them nexus logo when I pulled it off, but it gradually stopped doing so. it still grips very well, and you have better magnets than my tester unit does
[Nexus 5 Accessories] JosephD1014:
Edit: Contacted airdock support after reading Othonovum's post and going "oh hey I should reach out to them too" - they are SUPER helpful! Totally did have the white one ordered so I'm shipping mine back and they're shipping me a new one on their dime. Hopefully the new one magically solves all the rest of the issues. Really impressed with the speed of support though.

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Is anybody elses super shaky on the road? I've tried tightening it but it wiggles so much I had to disable the "shake to provide feedback" feature.

Additionally I need to do further testing but either it's the shaking that is preventing a good connection after a while or perhaps my N5 is getting too hot but it would make the sound that indicated it had started charging after about 20 minutes of use. I'm not normally in my vehicle that long so if someone else could confirm if it's the N5 overheating or what that's causing that and a solution I would be really grateful. :highfive:

I am using it with a case but it charges just fine at home on my Tylt Vu with the case on and for the first 15-ish minutes on the Airdock with no issues, but figured I should mention it in case maybe that's hampering the ability of the N5 to discharge the heat or something. Case is Ringke Fusion.

Love it otherwise... except I'm almost positive that I asked for white and they sent me black... anybody know of a way to check that since it was submitted via google forms and I don't believe we got a confirmation?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] :
I have two of these and here are things I have noticed so far: (Edited after learning more from the Airdock team)

1. There are no instructions shipped so you should watch the video on their website to find out which side to stick to the dash and which side to stick to the suction cup if you are going to dash mount it and use the sticky "donut". I did not know there was a video and took the 50/50 chance and ended up sticking it the opposite way they show in the video so its possible my issues with it staying on the textured dashboard are due to that, unfortunately they don't send any spare rings or even offer then on the website. (EDIT: They will be offering these on the website soon)

2. When dash mounted properly you should use the suction lever to hold tighter (EDIT: Thanks for the info Airdock support!)

3. My nexus 5 with a cruzerlite case (the one with all the android icons and logos on the back) sticks perfectly to the dock

4. The USB cable provided is a 2 wire cable (power and ground) using any other cable (one that contains 4 wires: power, ground, data, audio, etc) may not give you a good charge as it could be smaller gauge wires inside. It is best to use the one they provide or you can order one or do what I did. I ended up making a longer cable.

5. So far the Audi dashboard is not friendly and the dock wont stick to it so I had to suction it to the window (I hate this) but the BMW dash has not had any issues yet (May just take the right bumpy road to knock it off) I am a bit worried about hot summertime weakening the adhesion.

6. Issues seem to be with the mounting more than the dock. I really like the dock and the fact that I can just slap it into place and quickly grab it when I get out of the car is great but the fact that it also charges the phone while docked is a bonus. The phone has not fallen off of either dock yet (about 3 days of driving so far) (EDIT: I will try remounting to the dashes in each car with new rings and update with results)

Extra Info:

* If anyone has an older (2001ish) Audi and knows of a more elegant way to mount this thing other than the window let me know

* In the BMW I was able to remove the center shift knob cover and splice another cigarette lighter adapter to the OEM one (hidden underneath the control panel) and then run the cable underneath everything to the dock so there is only about 3 inches of visible cable (where it is plugged into the dock) So if you are brave enough and don't like the cable showing or the adapter sticking out of your lighter this works great with the right car configuration.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] mancterrier:
Pics of the BMW one mate please?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
My air dock has arrived. It seems to be exactly what I was looking for.

The magnets create a very strong hold. I'm not worried about it falling off. I would imagine the suction cup will fail on a hot day before the dock itself would.

I have it mounted on a 3M disc I've had installed on my dash since the Nexus One car dock. I'll have to get a longer USB cable because it is a few inches short to reach my center console power source. (My other one us being used by my Bluetooth to FM transmitter)

I was missing the plastic but that tightens the ball on my standard mount. Luckily, I got the longer mount too so I borrowed it from that one.

I'm very excited to use this as long as it will hold up. My search for the perfect car dock is over!

EDIT: I posted some photos here: https://plus.google.com/109411358062312838460/posts/SosUh5JVndZ

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
I was fortunate enough to get my AirDock before a long road trip and can report that after almost 1000 miles, I'm very satisfied.

I'm a windshield mount guy and despite the 90 degree heat this past weekend, the suction cup never moved.

In addition, my Nexus 5 (with a Ringke SLim Case) didn't move at all when attached and driving and it charged wonderfully (mostly bluetooth and music, some maps). I had no issue with keeping the phone battery near the top and charging it back up when it was low.

My cigarette lighter is under the center console, so the included cable is not long enough for my use (Audi A3). I have plenty of cables lying around so that wasn't an issue, however the included adapter only worked with the included cable. Fortunately, I had a 2A adapter and it worked fine for charging with my existing Monoprice gold cable.

EDIT:

Out of the Box, If you mount using the windshield, the MicroUSB plug is on the top of the mount. This was not only unsightly, the cable gets in the way a lot when taking the phone on and off. So I unscrewed the Charger from the Ball clip and reversed it. This was much better aesthetically and user friendly. It also solved a problem another user was describing - the shaking while driving. I think the screw is intentionally left loose so it can be reversed for windshield v dashboard. The shake was drastically reduced, almost non-existent actually, when I tightened it up.

DON'T DO THIS. See my post on the next page about why.

Once I tightened that up and reversed the plug to the bottom, I'm very happy with the product. It's also received a few head turns from people when they realized it charges too - it's not just a magnet dock!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
I am getting the CD mount one like the Mountek ones. Mine is set to be delivered this Friday. I have a bunch of dash mounts and wanted to test this version out. In the TX heat, the plain suction cups in my experience, warp when you don't put them away. The sticky pad and 3m mounting plate combo is a great combo, but the 3m plate can warp as well YMMV.

I currently use a Seidio LEDGER case and was wondering if anyone here can tell me, with their airdocks (doesn't matter which model) if your dock came with an adhesive sticker to place onto the inside-back of a non glossy case? This is a must for me, where the Seidio LEDGER has a soft backing on the case part.

I'll post pics as well when I get it and give a quicky review.:good:.

Thanks everyone for sharing your setup!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] appel_:
Thanks for the pics!

Does the phone automatically go into car mode when you put it on the air dock or do you have to launch some car mode app manually? When on the Air dock does the screen stay on when using for example a media app? :)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
It does not go in to car mode automatically. I do have my car mode and the car home app launch when my phone connects to Bluetooth in my car.

When in car mode the screen will say on while charging.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Nexus 5 Accessories] marcrandom:
I'm also using the CD mount, just came today. The curious thing is that there's no nut to clamp down the ball-and-socket connection that holds the CD tray mount on; the video in the FAQ appears to indicate this is how it's supposed to be (but only for the CD mount)? I'm a bit concerned about whether friction alone will be enough to hold it securely.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Just received my CD mount. Not sure what you mean bout the ball and socket. There's a screw adaptor where you put prior on putting the ball joint into the CD mount. Then you can screw the joint together from that point.

I attached a pic.

Also I didn't get my sticker! I emailed them and shot me an email right back saying they forgot to include it and they'll send one out. Awesome response time! :good:
[Nexus 5 Accessories] marcrandom:
Thanks, that confirms what I suspected: I'm missing a small part. Not surprising that it happens occasionally.

Oh, and just in case anybody else is in my situation, the Acase Slim Superleggera PRO Dual Layer Protection case for Nexus 5 works acceptably with this dock.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] El Daddy:
I was missing the nut on my standard mount too. I'm sure a few of them fell off pre-packaging. I'm not going to make a big deal out of it. I'm just happy with how awesome this dock is!
[Nexus 5 Accessories] Ozarkasince1905:
cd mount nut also missing from my cd mount. i'm thinking since a couple of people have the same oversight that it just doesn't come with one and they expect you to take the nut off the standard mount and put it on your cd mount.

definitely use the usb cable that comes with the mount as an above poster said. i used just a random one that i had been using instead and it did not work. i initially thought that the charger was defective or my car wasn't pumping out enough juice for the charger but after switching cables everything was fine.

i'm glad i got the cd mount. it has a little vertical give but it seems to be in there very tightly and it is in the perfect position for my phone. the overall product seems to be quality and worth the early bird price that I paid.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] pisanty:
What is the size of the air dock ball mount? I have a nexus magnet charger with suction cup at the moment but I'm a sucker for phone mounts. Just ordered a CD mount help me lol.

I'm interested in the size of the pad can someone with an air dock and the new nexus charger take a comparison photo for me?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] gotzaDroid:
Has anyone tried using Google navigation and streaming music at the same time with this charger? I had an owl wireless charger and I'd lose a charge while "charging" using navigation and streaming music. Just wondering if this charger can keep up.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
17mm ball, I don't have the Nexus charger anymore but the air dock is not quite twice as big.

yes, there have been a few reviews of this if you read the thread
[Nexus 5 Accessories] pisanty:
How long is the inlcuded must use USB cable? I have a 2013 focus and the usb port is not on the dash its at the drivers left shoulder in the center console (right should for Americans I am in Australia)
[Nexus 5 Accessories] gotzaDroid:
One review on what appears to be a preproduction model. I'd like to hear from those whom have received a finished production model. 70~80 dollars is a lot to spend in what may not work as intended and/or something that has changed in full production that differs from the one reviewed. Thanks though.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Put my now wife's Nexus 4 on the cd airdock and when I removed it, the sticky pad started coming off! Anyone else have that issue? I emailed support just now to see if there's anything I can do to reinforce it.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
Heard back this afternoon and was asked to return the dock back. They have had past feedback on the sticky pad not staying on the dock.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
Just to update - after working with AirDock customer support, this isn't advised.

The brackets only fit on the charging plate and the ball mount one way.

If you use the AirDock as a windshield mount, you should leave the MicroUSB plug on the top.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
can you post some pictures? I'm not sure I understand your issue. it's a ball mount, so the charging plate should spin freely letting you place the plug in any direction you wish. simply loosen the nut, move to desired position and retighten
[Nexus 5 Accessories] elementaldragon:
I fail to see how that makes any sense. The wireless charging plate is a completely different piece from the mount. If it gets plugged in at the charging plate side, i don't see any reason why it would be inadvisable to loosen the nut over the socket, rotate the plate 180 degrees, and tighten it again. Nothing should be running through the socket that could potentially be damaged.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] eliter1:
I've had mine for about 5 days and so far I love it. I wish I would have ordered another one for my desk! I was a bit worried about the magnet but I don't see my phone falling off unless there is some pretty violent movement. Question, which car mode app are you guys using? I'm downloading Car Home Ultra right now to give it a try. Any others I should check out?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
I'm not talking about the ball mount, it's the actual two piece mount from the ball mount to the charging plate that causes the problem. It's at an angle.

If you attach it to the windshield, and spin it around on the mount so the the plug is on the bottom as you say, your phone will be at a 45 degree downward angle facing the floor of your car and you won't be able to see it while driving.

Take the mount apart and you'll see that it's attached to the charging plate with a plastic rod for the screw, with a wider end on one side than the other (the screw side is more narrow than threaded side). If you turn the charging plate up side down to the two piece mount, it won't mount flush to the charging plate. It felt alright when I did it, but today, the plate simply fell off the mount. I asked Greg about it and he said it's designed to only be mounted one way.

Trust me - take the screw out of the mount and you'll see what I'm talking about. It will seem fine for a few days, but eventually, the wider side will spring loose and when you attach the phone, it will be too heavy to hold.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] elementaldragon:
Well.... i don't have one to actually look at.... but that sounds like a really stupid way to make a dash/windshield mount. What was so complicated about using a traditional ball and socket joint, and putting the charging plate on it instead of the usual clamp-style or magnet-style plates?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
Mine measured 40 inches.

My Audi has the usb port in the center console as well and it did not reach the top of the dash. I had to use a longer cable, which did not work with the included lighter plug, but worked fine with my other 2A lighter plug. Both are from Monoprice.com.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] TCooper4653:
I really like Car Home Ultra, great options for customizing.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
Hopefully, these photos of the clip that holds the ball mount and the charging plate will do a better job of showing what I've been trying to explain.

With the plug on top, the phone faces upward so the driver can see it.

With the plug on the bottom, the phone faces the dashboard.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kpjimmy:
I see it now. Actually androidcentral when reviewing it, I see the air dock in with the plug on top as well. I think it has everything to do with the type of car one uses and ones windshield. I personally stopped using windshield mounts because the plastic suction cups warp in the TX sun really easily. I burned up a few arkons in my day lol.

Anyway here is the review that has those pics as well.

http://www.androidcentral.com/first-look-air-dock-wireless-charger

Or maybe have the mount with the plug on the side?
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
I have considered that, but I really enjoy my phone in horizontal mode and moving the plug to the side from the top isn't that beneficial. The real advantage to having the plug on the bottom is that it's out of the way, and that's not true when it's on the top or the side.

It's a minor problem, and you're right, it only affects windshield users who have their phone in horizontal mode. But I wanted to clear it up as I claimed to have fixed it, but it was only short term.

I still love my AirDock.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vacrobj:
What happens if you turn the whole dock around. Turn the suction cup 180°
[Nexus 5 Accessories] vansmack:
I went to bed last night thinking "I can't believe I didn't try that."

Then when I got in the car this morning and flipped it, I remembered I did try that and it points directly at the dashboard so it's a no go.
[Nexus 5 Accessories] kellybrf:
I see what you mean now, on the prototype I have the ball is mounted flush to the charging plate. not sure why they made the change, it seems odd