yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hammer_Of_The_Gods:
Hi,

If your concern is only about bench, flash this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2537299, then take a look here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2506965...

Stock is slow in bench (compared to other devices) right, but not in general UI...

For the other parts of your post... No comment :rolleyes:. One thing is, I think, you should read and learn a bit more... and have a different approach in your reasoning... ;)

:)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] myprecious27:
I, on the other hand, will comment on your reasoning: you think that benchmarks show real life performance of a device? You have no idea what you're talking about, and exposing your ignorance in such a post is not very wise.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Xharos:
So... Even when the phone performs extremely and blazing FAST (because it does and you know it) you are calling it slow because of benchmarks results. When, by the way, samsung CHEATS in benchmarks ;) It's proven that they push the CPU and the GPU to clock speeds that are never used when you actually use the phone, and lock them there, but only during the benchmark. When you exit the benchmark, the phone returns to a normal state. That's called CHEATING you know.

https://www.google.es/search?q=sams...7&sourceid=chrome&espv=210&es_sm=122&ie=UTF-8

And you want the sluggish samsung UI in your nexus? You, sir... You... No, I just can't understand you
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Grondinm:
benchmarks are not real life usage. I had to come to that same realization as well. Who cares if your phone can score 30k+ on antutu or whatever if it lags and stutters on anything else. What matters is all around scrolling fluency,speed of app open,performance in games etc. not a number on a list
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bekyndnunwind:
LOL, this has to be trolling, you cannot be for real. Thanks for the good laugh :laugh:

If, by the slight chance you are serious, I must ask what apps, etc you use that are "slow" and/or causing lag??

What do you wish was faster?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Ha ha. Holiday chuckles. Thanks for this

-----------------------

Sent via tapatalk.

I do NOT reply to support queries over PM. Please keep support queries to the Q&A section, so that others may benefit
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] stevemw:
http://www.anandtech.com/show/7384/state-of-cheating-in-android-benchmarks
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
Oh no....not again.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
the nexus 5 in no way is slow. not even in benchmarks. maybe you dont know how to benchmark properly, maybe the reviews that you read the people dont know how to benchmark properly. but slow and nexus 5 do not go together. besides for benchmarks, which should mean absolutely nothing to you, its the fastest device out there in user experience as well, which is way more important than a benchmark.. oh, btw, i run my nexus 5 at 2880mhz without a single problem.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] markdapimp:
I learned this too the Nexus 5 if you're on 100% Completely stock doesn't give its 100% percent effort

using an app such as System monitor with the floating window, my nexus 5 clocks @ 1.7ghz - 1.4Ghz and it only uses 2 cores for the entire benchmark

I look @ my cheating S3 and once i opened the app the CPU was reved up to 1.5Ghz and stayed like that entire benchmark
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mmmmBACON:
Yeah, I buy a phone to play benchmarks too! They're pretty fun... I can't enjoy my phone unless the numbers that benchmarks show me are higher than other peoples numbers.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biscuitownz:
If you didn't know already, other phones that aren't a nexus will automatically force the processor to run at max speed whenever a benchmark app is opened. Therefore, there is no throttling when the benchmark is running. On nexus devices it won't do that and it'll just regulate the processor speed according to what it needs (most of the time it won't even use all 4 cores). This is why other phones will seem to get a higher score than the n5 when it comes to benchmarks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrawer:
Ha... Obviously your OP is a joke. I gave my son my Note3 and had the S4 before that since it came out and I can assure you my Nexus5 is quicker in every way for day-to-day usage.

I'm not dogging the Samsung phones because they are awesome but your statement about the N5 being slower is false.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistahseller:
Samezies
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] quanggiao:
why caring so much about benchmarks?

the actually performance is great, i have no complaint
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] maxpower7:
I can't believe that people are still getting hung up on benchmark scores. It's such a relic from the early days of Android when usability was terrible and pulling down 1000 on Quadrant actually kind of meant something. It's totally irrelevant now. Whenever I read a phone review on a mainstream tech site (other than AnandTech and Ars Technica) that goes into benchmark scores, I just want to puke because they place way too much emphasis on scores over usability.

Bottom line - the N5 is fast. Really fast. Period. I don't care if your benchmark scores are too low for your liking out of the box.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RonChinoy:
First thank you to the first guy who responded with two helpful links.

The rest of the comments where childish and immature.

Must be an age thing. Im 45 and have been compiling linux kernels since the early 90s.

First off Samsung are not cheating. They sold you a phone rated to X Mhz. And when they detect a bench mark test they let you have that speed.

The only reason they can let you have that speed is because its a well designed phone. face it.

Their thermal management is better. Why are Nexus owners so anal ? About facing facts.

Its a bit like buying a car. You see the engine configuration. 4 LTR V8. 500 BHP.

But oh wait you really cant put your nexus on a Dyno. Because it wont be able to give you 500 BHP without blowing up. Or getting damaged cause its thermal management is so bad. I don think custom Roms or kernels are the solution. The real solution is better thermal management.

The Samsung on the other hand you can put on the Dyno. And it will show you 500 BHP. Oh wait thats a bad word here.

Nexus 4.1 outperforms it.

But I understand that this is a soft spot for you guys. So lets just compare the Nexus 5 to the Nexus 4.1.

The Nexus 4.1 is faster in some bench mark tests ?. I see no way in hell that should happen.

We are coming in 5th and 6th behind some really dated and slower phones.

Forget bench marks. I am seeing that my apps are slowing down because of the heat issue. Hell my old s2 could hold a better clip and run better. Without over heating and ****ting it self like this.

Glad to see in the links provided that some people at least have acknowledged what Im saying.

1. The Thermal Throttling on the N5 out of the box is absurd.

2. The Thermal management on the N5 is seriously lacking. This is the real issue. This is why they have to be absurd on the thermal throttling. Cause heat dissipation or the basic design is lacking.

What do I need the speed for ?. Well that is my business. Its a bit like asking what do you need 500 BHP for ?. I paid for it. Im expecting it.

And if you must know

I need to sample sensors, GPS and OBD data from a race car while shooting a video. And our in car Temps are over 60c.

And yes when you Quad core Snap dragon 800 is performing slower than a 4.1 Nexus 600. I think its an issue. Weather you want to accept it or not.

Glad to see some people have already accepted that we got short changed by Google or Nexus. And we have to now resort to bumming stuff off the Moto X is just hilarious. So much for having state of the art Kit Kat LOL. Now we have to start bumming files off the moto x. That was the low point for me.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Momotani-Hitoshi:
I'm assuming you haven't found a fix/mod with N5 thermal management?

Would love to have an app that let me switch to performance mode so I can play games and watch 1080p 10bit videos without being throttled.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
if you have root, jist disable it. many custom kernels allow for this.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Momotani-Hitoshi:
Do have root, but how to disable? Wouldn't the N5 overheat and melt without throttling or we just wait to see it auto-shutoff itself?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meangreenie:
goofgles special trick is to use slower libraries than everyone else and have a thermal throttle system that makes it hard to get through even one antutu test without it kicking in, unless testing in the Arctic circle...

... all this and they still manage to get worse battery time than everyone else; that takes special goofgle know how
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] 0rigin:
This is a funny thread.

You're funny too!:fingers-crossed:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Harry GT-S5830:
Why is this thread so pointless.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistahseller:
Nobody cares how old you are, and the fact that you are saying that OP implies you are trying to set yourself to a higher standard than the rest of us.

I have not read any threads on here where people complained the Nexus 5 was slower than a s2. Do you work for Samsung?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Andrew149:
Buy a Samsung note 3 and stop complaing like a little girl your 45 years old.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] aooga:
Then buy a samsung phone. Really simple fix. I don't think anyone else finds this phone slow in daily use or even playing games. If anything, it's twice as fast as any touchwiz phone.

Either stop complaining about a problem that doesn't exist, or return your Nexus 5, and buy an S4 or Note 3.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
unless you are really trying to reach it, chances are that youll never reach the safety shutdown temp. go to /sys/module/msm_thermal/parameters/enabled/.. then change the Y to an N, and save. this will disable thermal throttle. but has to be done every time you boot up.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] testinguser:
/* worst thread of 2013 */ :cowboy:
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skrypj:
In all seriousness though, 60C(140F) is pretty damn hot, hotter than almost any natural ambient temperature and therefore any condition that a phone would ever be expected to deal with. I'd be surprised if any phone didnt start to overheat and throttle down . I mean thing must be 80C or hotter with any CPU usage. My S3 is sitting on my couch doing nothing but texting and is at ~30C with a 17C room temp.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
60C or 140F isnt very hot, closer to very warm than hot. and not hotter than any condition a phone is supposed to deal with. you have a laptop? see how hot it gets with normal use, and it has an active cooling system. your phone has a quad core cpu, with a passive cooling system. the safety shutdown for your phone is 100C, thats pretty far from 60C. below 100C, your phone runs high temps safely.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] skrypj:
We are not talking about 60C being the CPU temperature, we are talking about the surrounding air temperature. The same air that is supposed to be pulling heat off of the passively cooled, rubber coated phone. That means if the phone was OFF it would be 60C never mind when its on or under heavy load.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] simms22:
ahh.. then yea, 60C air temp is hot, well too hot for our bodies to handle!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
True, but the temp sensors are inside the phone not out. Throttling occurs at 60 degrees C internally

-----------------------

Sent via tapatalk.

I do NOT reply to support queries over PM. Please keep support queries to the Q&A section, so that others may benefit
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Steven 1:
Benchmarks.. You're talking about benchmarks...like poorly optimized comparison tests for the CPU/GPU.. Put the phones side by side and open any app of your choice and you'll see the N5 is the obvious winner. App drawer, camera, browser any of your choosing. This phone is fast. I'm 100% satisfied for the next year or so.. But to each his own
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Vegasden:
If you have a need for speed check this thread out - http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2546120

- - - - - - -
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] RonChinoy:
Ok let me update you about what Iv done so far.

1. Got Franko kernel to work. And have tried both his default 70c and 60c.

2. Right now my ambient temp is 25c. Since its winter here. So temp / weather can be removed from the equation.

No I do not work for Samsung.

I have a simple question that I want the Fan Boys to comprehend and respond to.

So Samsung allow the CPU to run at full clip. If a bench mark test is detected.

So I did the same. Enabled per app control and told the CPU and GPU to run at full tilt. When ever a bench mark is run.

The Nexus 5 is still slower ?.

What does that tell you ?.

In fact to match what other phones are achieving with the snap dragon 800 CPU. You must actually over clock your phone. Talk about needing to cheat.

So in summary

1. Basic Design is flawed. Poor thermal management. (This can be fixed with some heat paste and copper sheet).

2. Kit Kat for all its superior features is not able to perform or give similar results to what people are achieving on older versions of Android.

This is just one of the Nails in Androids coffin.

Expect to see more and more Phone Manufacturers moving away from Android.

Something truly open source is coming.

First you said it was the thermal management. That was removed by setting the temp to 70c.

Then you said results dont count cause phone runs at full tilt. That was also removed by forcing it to run bench mark at full tilt.

Results still show speed is slower.What does that tell you ?.

Get your heads out of the sand. Debate point by point. Any of my points. Im willing to debate.

Saying I work for Samsung or should buy a note 3 is not a valid or mature stand.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hi,

What is your average score in Antutu now?

Have you flashed this: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=47709067?

:)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Lower benchmark does not mean slower phone.

This thread is troll bait.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Beauenheim:
The final nail guys. I'm going to get an iPhone.

;)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mistahseller:
in before lock!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Re,

I think that he is speaking only in benches, not on general UI. I'm the first to say benches/General UI is not the same thing, but I have nothing against benches too... (so my first post in this thread).

The thing is that designate the Nexus 5 as "slow", as a general idea, was the wrong word to describe its idea and maybe he had wrong explained its general idea... :confused:

Maybe I'm wrong, but it's just an history of words for me... and some replies in this thread doesn't help to avoid flame (maybe mine too).

I think it's legitimate to know or ask why the Nexus 5 under certain conditions performs lower in benches than other devices with the same hardware (thermal throttling, software optimizations, etc...)..., and don't get me wrong I speak only in benches here but like always when a guy speak about benches it's like all XDA is in revolution... :rolleyes:

:)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
I think it's legitimate ONCE. It is not legitimate to reject all the real answers and keep asking the same question.

It has been answered multiple times

1) Thermal Throttling

2) Many OEM's cheat

3) Benchmarks do not only benchmark "hardware"

4) Benchmarks can't even get consistent results on the same phone

Why must this same question be asked a million times for over 5 years. Someone should just google it and stop asking because the answer is always the same.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] :
Hi,

Ok, but sorry in this case it's the same thing for the whole Q&A section...

For the rest of your post I agree and I think you know I think almost the same thing :)

But it's even worse when a user ask something about benches on XDA (because other threads about battery/root/comparison/etc... it's not the drama like with bench threads even if they are in minority compared to others), after that it's only my opinion and if the discussion ended like that, it will be my last post here because sometimes maybe it's me who explain wrong my point of view ;)

I edited my previous post.

:)
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ickoicko:
Surprised this thread isn't lock yet.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] danarama:
Not all benchmark threads have the same response.

All "why is this phone benching slower?" Questions are formed by lack of understanding. This is fine. Honest answers are given. But when these questions are presented with such a tone as post 1 of this thread... different answers are given. The tone of this thread is that he was mis sold a slow device and that it needs "fixing" rather than being presented as a request for information. From the offset, this thread appears to be designed to provoke a certain response and well done there because this thread provoked that response.

Lack of knowledge and the quest to better ones self is one thing. Lack of knowledge whilst accusing a device manufacturer of essentially being crap in a forum full of owners in an offensive tone whilst simultaneously disrespecting the development community is quite another.

Research first, accusations never

-----------------------

Sent via tapatalk.

I do NOT reply to support queries over PM. Please keep support queries to the Q&A section, so that others may benefit
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jbdan:
**not a response to the op as its content has zero value, but instead a response to all the great members here.

One day, in my hopes of xda members taking the challenge and making a change, threads like this will never be replied to. Imagine. Would be something else, no? :cool: Stand up!

Nexus5
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dazbutler1:
Don't know why you are still talking about benchmarks. Numerous people have told you it means absolutely zero in real world use. I have changed my phone a number of times over the last couple of years. S3 (Laggy), Note 2 (Laggy) S4 (Laggy). At this point gave up on Samsung as touchwiz is horrendous, bloated and laggy as hell. Next phone HTC One (Butter). What a lovely phone really smooth, but then Nexus 5 came out so I changed again, Nexus 5 (Utterly Butterly). Sure it has some problems (camera) but the Nexus 5 is the fastest, smoothest phone I have ever used. Regardless of what a benchmark might tell you.

But since your obsessed with benchmarks, check this out. No overclock, stock rom, franco kernel, art.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] topgeardave:
Change animation speeds to 0.5x in development settings. It makes my wife's n5 fly! Also the stock launcher is quite slow in my opinion so I use Nova and set it on fast. Animations are fast and fluid and no lag whatsoever on stock!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] mb3030:
much like G+, XDA needs down votes
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Toledo_JAB:
was little swamped with reports...

Just got to this one

Thread closed
[Android Apps and Games] hkfunapp:
Hi everyone,

It's my pleasure to introduce my new iPad/ Android app，named Korean x Puzzle.

Christmas limited edition

iPad download address

tunes.apple.com/WebObjects/MZStore.woa/wa/viewSoftware?id=777532862&mt=8

Android download address

play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hkfunapp.KoreanxPuzzle

Game introduction:

1. Learn Korean Language in this puzzle game. Easy and fun to memorise Korean vocabulary

2. Multiple languages, i. English to Korean & ii. Chinese to Korean

3. Plenty of Korean vocabularies. Common and practical!

4. Sixty (60) addictive mission based levels

5. Single-player mode and multiple-player mode

6. Analyse the recent wrong words during the gameplay and feedback to the player

7. Three (3) characters are allowed to select

8. No advertisement in this promotion period

9. Addictive graphics, sound effects and intuitive screen

10. Limited tips can be used in difficult time

11. No internet connection is required. Offline sounds are included to improve Korean listening skill，

12. Korean pronunciation letters are included to improve Korean reading skill

Thank you for your support! :good:
[Android Apps and Games] ChineseSkill:
A Korean learning App for Chinese? Does it have Simplified Chinese?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meiyi2:
Can I factory reset rooted Samsung Galaxy S2? Will the superuser be removed after the reset?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Code SyGma:
It will still be there.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewwright:
Don't factory reset if you're on firmware 4.0.4 ics. If you do brick bug will surely follow.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meiyi2:
Would I be fine if I am on 4.0.3 ics?
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewwright:
Yes that's fine to factory reset. It's only 4.0.4 that has this problem.
[Galaxy S II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] meiyi2:
Thanks. :laugh: :D
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agent:
Just curious I can't seem to find a straight answer anywhere. When my blue tooth earpiece connects to my phone (I have a legend) the music on my phone automatically starts playing. I can't find a setting anywhere in music or play music that has anything to do with it. It didn't use to do this. Not sure what happened. Any ideas?
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Agent:
Very strange...today it just stopped doing it and I don't know why
[AT&T Galaxy Note 3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jammol:
It depends on your device, not your phone. My backbeat2 doesn't autoplay but my Ford Taurus does and my girlfriend's bluetooth autoplays.
[General Questions and Answers] s7562:
jellybean update/jellybean ROM for samsung s duos s7562?

thanks in advance :cowboy:
[General Questions and Answers] Nikhil...007:
There is no official jb update for s7562 at present, if you want you can try cm 11 which has been recently ported to ace 2x(same as s7562, only difference is that it is a single sim). Try it only if you want to taste kit kat on our device and not as permanent rom as it is buggy and the sim card slots don't work on s7562.
[Sony Xperia ZL] bhavstech:
Are accessories for this phone easily available in the indian market?!
[Sony Xperia ZL] control freak:
Nop brother, even after a long time of its release, accessories such as back cover, matte screen guard isnt available everywhere. But if u search sensibly u can find them in places like nehru place :D

If u still cant find, its better to go online, u will find a lot of accessories online.

Hope it helps :)
[Sony Xperia ZL] bhavstech:
i hav still not bought i m planning to buy it i heard that the accecsorie r nt available easily bocz its not a good seller....is this phone worth 25k?
[Sony Xperia ZL] control freak:
The phone is totally worth its price, and at 25k, its a steal.

the reason behind the phone not selling well is Sony's (awkward) policy, the company decided not to promote it much, because they feared it cud eat into sales of their flagship xperia Z.

Although in my opinion, if u really want waterproofing, buy xperia Z, otherwise go with xperia ZL.

U will never regret buying it. I love my phone.
[Sony Xperia ZL] bhavstech:
bcoz n5 is availabe for 29k in india for difference of 4 thousand i m getting one of the best processor still is it worth? compared to n5
[Sony Xperia ZL] control freak:
It totally depnds on your personal taste now. If u want stock android, want fastest updates, and all that processing power, go for nexus 5. But if u want a better camera, a bit different and a classy ui(IMO), expandable memory, and the most compact full HD 5incher, go for xperia ZL. Either way, u wont regret ur decision.

Best wishes, hope this helps.