[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
If there is not already, then sadly no CLI.

On another note I spoke with a iOS developer:

fOmey
hows it going bud
what is it you wanted to speak to me about
robdubya
5:45pmhaha, i have no idea. this tomlol dude keeps talking about hooking his gear up to iOS
fOmey
ah right
robdubya
he dragged me over here from an ios channel on irc
fOmey
i see !
your a developer ?
robdubya
yeah
iOS / JS
fOmey
cool beans
alright cool, are you a gear owner ?
robdubya
nope, which is why this is all a bit curious
fOmey
well tom has been very eager to get the gear notifications working on ios.
robdubya
indeed
i guess i'm curious as to what the state of that is
i dont see much we could do from the iOS side really
fOmey
there is actually quite alot, ill give you a little background on how it all works.
robdubya
cool
fOmey
there is an app which is installed on a android device, which currently only works on samsung devices as it depends on some samsung framework files in order to work.
apart of this app is a service which listens to notifications being retrieved on the device
robdubya
who as far as i can tell have not released any SDK for gear
fOmey
it pretty much forwards them to the gear
sadly your right, they have not released a SDK which is a huge shame..
so it does make things a little more difficult
robdubya
but it looks like ya'll have it rooted?
fOmey
correct yeah
robdubya
which is cool, because i'd love to wipe every speck of samsung off it
fOmey
which is very possible with my rom
iv actually included an option when installing the rom, to remove all the applications
if you wanted too anyway
robdubya
so you and he have both mentioned this relay application
the issue is, from the iOS side... you could easily build the app to communicate. assuming its using BT and you know the spec, it's doable.
the problem is, there's no way for an individual app to listen to system wide notifications
fOmey
really..
not even if jailbroken ?
robdubya
ehhhh
not really
fOmey
thats a shame..
robdubya
so it would have to be an open-the-app-and-sync model
which sort of defeats the whole purpose
fOmey
hmmm
thats strange..
robdubya
the OS will push out notificaiotns
like - the head unit my subaru will read out incoming texts
/ other notifications
(via MAP)
but that's coming from the OS leve
fOmey
right
robdubya
and even the jailbreak crowd isn't really rewriting the BT stack
fOmey
hmm
im trying to find an example
of how the gear & phone comunicate now
it uses JSON
robdubya
wat
fOmey
the way it formats all the communication is via JSON
robdubya
so really the issue here is that the gear isn't using the standard bluetooth protocols
like message access / headset / etc
fOmey
it is capable of it, although its locked down
robdubya
because really, it should just operate like my car's headunit
fOmey
originally the gear was only supporting A2DP
i cant remember what other protocol it supported out of the box
robdubya
that seems like a really shortsighted decision by samsung
fOmey
i agree.
they are holding there cards quite close to there chest
with the SDK not being released publically
along with strictly samsung device compatibility
robdubya
its because they're waiting to see what apple is going to do
i'm an android fan - i dont do a lot of dev for it, but i'm doing more and more
(i'm also an ex-apple employee)
fOmey
the reassuring thing is, someone has actually coded up a third party application which had the ability to push notifications to the gear
it was a android app
robdubya
sure - it would be trivial to communicate over JSON
its just doing it without the app being open / listening for system events
fOmey
well the gear manager does
(gear manager being the application installed on the host phone device)
robdubya
(on iOS i mean)
fOmey
ah i see
robdubya
you've seen the pebble stuff, i assume?
fOmey
i actually havnt
i wasnt much of a fan of the pebble i have not looked into it all that much to be honest
robdubya
me either - but the complexity of their platform tells you all you need to know really
they have a whole cloud sdk, which 3rd parties talk to, then relay back to the app and then to the watch
fOmey
oh wow
robdubya
because everybody has that same limitation (by design, so malicious apps can't piggyback onto your SMS's and such)
fOmey
this is for ios ?
or manufacture wide ?
robdubya
my guess is theyre doing all the **** for the same reasons we're discussing here
BUT pebble also supports the standard BT stack
so it also works like my car head unit
fOmey
luckily for android its not so complicated, we can listen to system events quite easily if the appropriate permissions are there anyway
robdubya
(A2DP, headset, contacts, notifications)
fOmey
especially with root, the sky's the limit..
im trying to find the source of the third party app so we can see how it was communicating with the gear
robdubya
right. which is why i have an N7 for my arduino type experiments
but its just classic ****ing samsung. no support, piss poor implementation, and it takes 3rd parties to root it and make it not suck
fOmey
sadly that is the truth
robdubya
inevitably apple will release an iwatch, google will release a nexus watch, and samsung will continue to make slightly less functional equivalents
question - i read the pairing docs - is NFC *required* to setup a gear?
fOmey
no
robdubya
if so, he's right outta luck
fOmey
you can manually pair up via bluetooth
all the nfc does, is the pairing handshake
fOmey
the interesitng thing tho, there is a framework which is included in every single app on the gear
an API
fOmey
reality is tho, even if we get the possibility of notifications to be sent via ios
there is no way you can listen to incoming notifications on ios anyway ?
robdubya
not from within an app. there's probably a way with a jailbroken one, but i don't really dabble there
fOmey
ah ha..
i see
robdubya
android for tinkering, iOS for consulting and dev
fOmey
fair call
robdubya
i said to him
this is like asking a bunch of ford fans to help develop a new chevy motor
fOmey
hehe
oh well
fOmey
also slightly off topic, i dont believe samsung do produce less functional equivalents ! there hardware is unmatched by any manufacture in my opinion..
although there software SUCKS.
robdubya
well. i wouldn't say unmatched ;-D but it's certainly good hardware
they just epically fail at writing software
fOmey
i agree.
100%
robdubya
its lke... stepford software
you know when you look at a robot designed to look like a human?
fOmey
hehe
robdubya
the uncanny valley effect?
thats how i feel about samsung software
fOmey
thank god for cyanogenmod !! you should make the swap dude
robdubya
like pod people wrote it. they've observed human experience but don't understand it
/rant
fOmey
i use to be a hardcore ios themer back in the day
i jumped ship a year and a half ago, never looked back
robdubya
problem is you android folks dont pay for software
fOmey
bar when the dbar theme's were around
back*
robdubya
and software pays my bills
fOmey
lies !
the android community is very very alrge
large*
although very generous
robdubya
right - and every metric shows they spend less money on softwre
fOmey
im speaking from the root community
not from the playstore, i cant comment in that regard.
robdubya
i'm sure they are. i've donated to CM.
but you can't run CM in the enterprise, for example
fOmey
thats all about to change http://www.theverge.com/2014/1/15/5311718/oppo-n1-review-life-with-the-first-cyanogenmod-phone
robdubya
or at least - no sane IT department would let you (ditto for JB iphones)
well now they're legit, that may change
fOmey
they recently released there first cyanogenmod phone
anyway i got to go, it was nice chating to you champ.
robdubya
but with legitimacy comes liability
you too
good luck with this
fOmey
i appreciate it, tom wanted me to have a chat with you.. im a samsung user all round, completely compatible :)

Pretty much to summarize a jailbroken app will have to be created, not something which will be available on the appstore.

One of you guys are best off speaking with a iOS developer which is active in the jailbreak community.