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[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yh. I saw something email related. But get me the new log I asked if u can. Cheers! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
ok will do tonight and post tomorrow, thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Cool! Cheers! ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Hi, here is the log. keep draining fast overnight. after that a reboot recovery clear cache and dalvik an restart and now seems to be going into deep sleep, but i think it's not ok.

View attachment 2642213

Any ideas, it's kind of better but still "Android System" uses most of battery... thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Firstly, u didn't follow the instructions I gave, I said charge full 100% and leave idle overnight. This log says 91 to 68%

Secondly, no app stands out in the log. So not an app that trolled you

Thridly, seems you have bad reception. That can cause battery drain too. Set ur phone to GSM only and see.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZroe:
Do you have a microcell at home?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] wilflare:
share your debloat list please :P

EDIT: and is that Intelli3G thing really good?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Ok here is Last night log about 10% overnight

View attachment 2644033

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yes, this is a way better log. Well, everything points to an email service. What email app do u use? Stop using it. Even if it's stock. Dats wats draining battery. Also, flash Halaszk v14B Cluster. It's very good.

I see you have core. Switch to cluster. Cheers! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Ok I use stock email will try other also have 0.14b cluster and have reboots in games and antutu any ideas?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
There is cluster v0.15 now. Give it a shot. I just flashed it too. Seems decent.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sot010174:
Guys I think I've narrowed my Android OS (extremely high usage) problems down to:

1. Google Services / WiFi.

2. Removing the phone from the charger.

I'm running unrooted stock 4.3 MJ6 (Vivo operator). I've turned off:

0. WiFi. Yes. I know its unacceptable. I agree! Samsung should fix this kernel.

1. Google Maps location report and history.

2. On Location services, I've turned off "Use wireless networks". (Gps and "Access to my location" are on).

3. On WiFi advanced settings I've turned "Keep Wifi on while sleeping" to Never and "Always allow scanning" and "Auto network switch" OFF.

*** After changing these settings always remember to reboot.. It wouldn't hurt to check Wakelock detector for problems (procedure explained below)

How I'm managing the charger issue:

- Always fully charge the battery. When disconnecting from the charger, leave the phone sleeping for about 3-5 minutes and then check Wakelock Detector. If your phone is at least 60-70% on deep sleep you're OK. Awake time should fall even further over time. If not, reboot your phone. It should be OK after a reboot (BTW, it's normal to get a bit of awake time after rebooting. The OS will try to sync everything up and keep the phone on while sleeping.).

I will try to keep the phone working with those workarounds for a week. After that I'll try to experiment with various Wi-Fi settings.

Galaxy Note 3 n9005 Snapdragon
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
I could really use some help... here's my situation. My phone doesn't go to deep sleep at all. If I heavily use the phone I get relatively good screen on time but the problem is battery drain while idle - it varies between 3 - 10% per hour.

- I got my Note last Friday and it's still stock 4.3

- Rooting isn't an option

- I did a factory reset and formatted sd card before using my phone

- I turned off all unnecessary apps including Google Now and disabled sensor stuff like smart stay

- GPS is off and location settings are completely turned off

- WIFI is off and "always scanning" in WIFI setting is off

After I got fed up with the battery drain I did the following:

- Another factory reset and formatted sd card

- Disable unnecessary apps and disabled sensor stuff

- GPS off and location settings are completely turned off

- I ONLY installed TapaTalk and Better Battery Stats to get a log to rule out apps from the drainage

- Charged to 100% and rebooted

- Left idle for a bit less than 8 hours (turned WIFI off after 20 mins because I forgot first)

Here's the log, you can see that it doesn't go to deep sleep and I have no idea what to do aside from throwing this thing at a wall. Many people recommended the N3 for me but how can stock settings with everything turned off and no apps result in such a crappy battery life without doing anything?

Log attached to this post and as I said, rooting isn't an option for now. Anyone able to give advice or input?

Edit: also how can the log show that WIFI was on for over a hour when I turned it off after 20 minutes?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lanwarrior:
My best suggestion is to root the phone so you can disable Samsung bloatwares. Unfortunately, these apps are the one draining your battery.

For Wifi, disable "Always allow scanning".
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
HI it's me again this issue is make me very unhappy, its better now but still not good, i can't be all day turning on/of wifi switch from 2g/3g, so i'll try an extended battery until this issue be fixed by samsung o someone else.

Thank's for all the info and support.

cheers
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Thanks for the tip but my phone is just 4 days old and I'm not going to risk my warranty just yet. My phone came with the updated bootloader so there's no rooting without tripping Knox. And always scanning has been disabled from day 1.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lanwarrior:
I rooted with Kingosoft and it didnt trip Knox. Not sure if this ok with the new bootloader, but my phone is also 4 days old and it has 4.3, not 4.4.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Your phone just wouldn't sleep. I saw. You are not rooted, so this log isn't really of much help. I have some few suggestions.

1. Factory reset your phone (I know u already did)

2. Since u are not rooted, ur only option to freeze is disabling apps. They are basically the same, but yh! Go into ur app drawer, tap the left capacitive key/menu key. Then select Uninstall/disable. Scroll across all screens uninstalling and disabling as many system and user apps you do not 'REALLY' Need. Especially Maps and Google+

3. Make sure u turn off Google now from its settings.

4. Tottally disable GPS.

5. Disable Samsung's gimmick eye tracking and whatever they call it.

6. Remove any email clients u have or suspicious app.

OR

7. Grab any KitKat firmware for ur model and flash. You won't lose warranty that way either. :D

On the other hand, if u root, your problem would be gone in a heartbeat. Well, it would be easier to fix. Lol.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] sot010174:
What is the definitive solution to the Android OS drain? Update to 4.4? Root, then what?

Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Thanks a lot for the input. I submitted a support ticket to Samsung explaining the issue and what I've done to troubleshoot.

Done twice actually

Done this to every app that I can. The rest have the

"disable" button greyed out. Google+ and Maps were the first thing to gets disabled.

Disabled that too. It's "Google Search" in the app list

Did that as soon as I finished the factory resets.

Yep, that too

Only Gmail and as I said, there's not much to remove. I literally only installed BBS and TapaTalk after the second reset+cache wipe.

Yea I know and it really annoys me :) I won't root until I'm sure there are no defects because when I do, Knox goes bye bye. It's also wrong that I need to risk voiding warranty to fix what shouldn't be broken in the first place.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
It's not present in KitKat actually. Gone with JB. Just factory reset.

Well, upgrade to KitKat. Or claim warranty. Bad battery :confused:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Yep, going to try KitKat next. At least it can't be worse :D We actually just got official KK here in Finland. If it doesn't help, I'll take it to be repaired. Samsung customer service already got back to me and said it sounds like a defect and told me to bring it in. I'll test 4.4.2 for a while to see if it helps :)

Thanks for all the tips in the OP and the rest of this thread stanley08, I'm sure I'm not the only one that really values your pointers.

--

Edit: My preliminary study reveals that I can now actually see deep sleep in the battery meter. I'll keep testing but looks good so far.

Edit 2: My first charge after the 4.4.2 update is still at 82% (played Asphalt for about a hour) and the phone is properly going to deep sleep now. The KitKat update fixed my battery life.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Hi i'm back again, where can i confirm what samsung apps are safe to delete/freeze, i just find out samsung push service is the top WakeLock app.

thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Freeze Samsung push
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Hi, just did that yesterday and seems to work but from time to time the note refuses to go on deep sleep and i found out l2_hsic it's running, after a reset i goes back to normal, any ideas??
[Galaxy Note 3 General] azeter:
And how how I disable this samsung push service ? Thnx
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
I just freeze with Titanium Backup
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Settings -> Apps -> Samsung Push -> Disable

The same way you disable any other app
[Galaxy Note 3 General] azeter:
View attachment 2653499

Will this make note unstable ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
No, Samsung Push service is safe to disable.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] P30SiNa:
People are saying that NEE build for n9005 fixed battery drain. Can we, exynos users, also expect an update like n9005?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Hope comes soon... this is sick...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Hopefully, maybe it's just me, but i actually feel the phone never charges to 100%. Like it drops too quickly from 100 to 95% than it drops from 94% going on. Maybe a Samsung feature to protect battery is what i thought but i don't know. All i know is when i first got my Note 3, I used to get 8 hrs screen time on Stock firmware using mobile data. But now, on mobile data... Only about 5 hours. Sad stuff

Btw, i knew NEE build couldn't be out. Those Letters mean something u know? N stands for 2014 and the first E stands for May. So build is May 2014. We are not even in April yet. :P
[Galaxy Note 3 General] P30SiNa:
It's ok. A battery never charges to 100%. that's why it drops from 100 to 95 quickly to reach it's true percentage.

and by NEE build I meant this build

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2682442
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
I would say yes, but my S2, S3, S4 didn't behave like so. I do get what you are saying tho and know infact. Btw, that build is 'NC2'. 'NEx' builds won't be available till May. We are moving on to NDx in April. A is Jan, B is Feb, C is March (like we have now), D is April and yh! :p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZroe:
Absolutely every lithium ion battery behaves like that. It's a game engineers play with the battery controller. Every one has a battery controller and a chip that tracks usage statistics because they are ruined if they ever get truly drained 100%.

Avoiding total discharge isn't the only purpose: The more power you store in it the fewer total cycles before it no longer holds a useful amount of charge. Similarly, the deeper you discharge it the faster you wear it out. Mobile device engineers have to balance that and they do that not only by deciding what constitutes 100% and 0%, but by changing what constitutes 100% or 0% as the cycles add up. For example, I may want my product to outperform an otherwise identical product by having the battery store more and discharge deeper. Mineay only last 600 cycles before it holds significantly less than half the original capacity and needs to be replaced while my competitor's product might last through 900 cycles. Because I estimated that my customers typically move on after two years and usually charge once a day, I might make it start charging EVEN more and discharge EVEN deeper as it approaches 600 cycles so that it lasts longer and the worn batter is not noticed as soon as it otherwise would have been. Once the battery is ruined enough, battery life takes a nose-dive. Time for a new device! My competitor's product may still have a good battery but it's now considered "old" and people had the perception that the battery life was worse back when our products were introduced (in other words, back when it really mattered).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] P30SiNa:
NEE = Product Code !
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Zorigo:
I don't mean to post a noob like question, but I've looked around and can't tell what kernel for the n9005 is the most comprehensive. I basically want something that's going to improve my battery life, and I can't tell which of the available kernels is most suited for that. (i.e, the easiest to tweak.)

And if I may also ask, is there a list around of the best kernel settings for a good balance between battery life and performance?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lanwarrior:
I have T-Mobile version with 4.3, stock but rooted. I have phenomenal battery life: in 12 hours with GPS off most of the time, Wi-Fi on all the time and 3 hours of screen on time, I so have 48% left.

So I don't have to muck around with kernel, which I believe can trip KNOX.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Sorry for the absence, been writing exams. Finished yesterday. :victory:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Hi mi problems are back high usage in GPSD and l2_hsic. Have read something about flash a diferent modem could this help? what modem are you using, i keep stock.

thank's
[Galaxy Note 3 General] amrinal:
great, i wanna try it,,, i never get 2 days for more 5-6 hours on screen...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Ok. Report back whenever u can
[Galaxy Note 3 General] amrinal:
attc images was my first trying,,, still in progress for the 2nd

View attachment 2687387

View attachment 2687388
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Aha! AWESOME! :D is power saver turned on? :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] amrinal:
Thx...

Yes, power saving ON... i wanna try synapse but i don't know how to configure, many friends (on N900) had problem with that

<i'm sorry for my bad english, hope you got what i mean>
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Feel free to set -50mv undervolt to each LITTLE core (A7 processor). I don't usually touch big cores. DOn't know why. If you must, try -25mv. Cheers! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DrawnToLife:
Do you know where I could find the default voltage table for all of the PVS bins of the Note 3/S800? I want to see where I should be aiming for in terms of UVing. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
https://gist.github.com/imoseyon/7226820

My UV values. PVS 1

Sent from my ZeroLemon powered SM-900W8 running W03SlimKAT v13 over clocked to 2.7GHz using Temasek v3.38 via Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DrawnToLife:
I'm a bit confused. My phone read PVS 3, but the stock voltage table that my phone displays is for PVS 4..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
It is my understanding that. When 4.4.2 OTA came to our devices. Qualcomm lowered the voltages by -25mV. I accused a kernel dev of lowering them, and he quickly prompted me that I was incorrect.

The voltages in the link above are the voltages that your note 3 came with out of the box

Sent from my ZeroLemon powered SM-900W8 running W03SlimKAT v13 over clocked to 2.7GHz using Temasek v3.38 via Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DrawnToLife:
Oh, okay, thanks!

I'm running the PVS5 voltage table right now (because of global UV), but I think I could get lower if I started tweaking individually. Do you think it's worth it?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
Its worth it to a point.

In theory less voltage = better battery but the advantage is really only minimal.

I use Stability Test from the playstore. Grant it root access, and do the scaling CPU test. You can test a whole range of freq. Or just individual ones.

I'd start with checking your CPU states over the course of a day. The frequencies that get used the most you should try and undervolt. For example. We are always hovering at 300mhz. So UV 300MHz as low as you can while remaining stable(650 seems to work for me, 675mV 100%)

Other common freq of mine are

1190

1728

2496

The higher frequencies won't be able to under volt by as large of an increment as the lower (from my experience)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] persiansoftware:
Hi,

i have a sm-n9005 with kitkat 4.4.2 (poland Last Update):

my device is not rooted

AP: N9005XXUENB3

CP: N9005XXUENB1

CSC: N9005OXXENB1

i have a problem with my battery usage ...

my android os and android system battery usage is too high...

please check my attaches and tell me how can i fix android os and android os usage

many thanks for your help... .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BraKoS:
Thanks a lot for this tutorial!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cornelito:
Facing the same issue.

Tested several different ROMs and no joy with fixing the problem.

Is there any known solution for that?

Thx
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Try turning on power saving mode. If doesn't work, try one of the latest NCx ROMs. If you have 9005, i think NDx is available. Cheers! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cornelito:
I did what you suggested.

Installed ALEXNDR XXUEND3 ROM, turned on power saving mode, Greenified a lot of processes (including sys app), dwnloaded custom kernel and set governor as conservative, heavily debloated the ROM, disabled some services running in background and still no joy :(.

I'm really frustrated.

Is it something wrong with my phone that i need to be worry about?

I turned my Gmail Auto Sync off but after few minutes "Sync Push Subscription" comes back ?

See pictures attached.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
Do a test with bbs app and post the log.

Something is trolling your phone I c

Typed using Iphone kb and sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cornelito:
Could you please expand on this a little bit?

How long do you want me to test it for? Is 1 hour enough?

Thx
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
Read the first post of This thread

Typed using Iphone kb and sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cornelito:
I will post the results in about 1 hour :)

Thank you very much in advance for helping me out.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
Hello.

Once again read the thread properly. :)

U have to charge your phone fully..unplug and let the phone as its for at least 4 hr. (Without using it)

Then post the log with root feature enabled. :)

Typed using Iphone kb and sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cornelito:
Files attached.

Unfortunately, after 3hrs and 15 minutes i have received SMS which woke up the phone from deep sleep.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaydeeph:
Great HQ thread mate. All the tips do actually help out. My Note 3 lasted 1 & 1/2 day of medium use! Haha.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Your phone seems perfectly fine mate. 3 h 14 m 40 s Deep Sleep (97.9%) in 3 h 18 m 48 s. Nothing wrong here. And lost only 1% in the process draining at 0.3% per hour. Throw a party man! You might have the best deep sleep in the world! :p

Cheers mate! Glad it helped! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cornelito:
You're right, deep sleep is fine but battery drain occurs when I use my phone (see picture attached few posts back) Android OS is killing my battery.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Try a factory reset mate. If that doesn't help, try a different ROM base. I'm on NC1 now and it is pretty decent. Cheers! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] taysrat:
can share your setting in synapse ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fossxp13:
Hi I've found out my problem was basically with the Network mode if I set to Auto don't go into deep sleep, but if i set to GSM it goes deep sleep most time. Could this be a problem with the modem? where can i found a different modem to try flashing and see if helps.

thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Mine is stock. Just LED notification light increase :P

Search xda if u need a modem, or I will do it for u when I'm on a pc. I surf on my phone with Oper Mini :p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] taysrat:
Seriously stock setting ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Julian Jeremiah:
IMO having a good custom kernel n greenify pro version will do all wonders. Stock kernel with power saving mode on works just fine.

I really admire those who are able to obtain 6 hours screen time and above :rolleyes:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yes, Greenify Donate is great. Best $3 i ever spent. Btw, 6hrs is bad screen time AFAIK, I get 8 to 9 hours screen time. Lol. :D

Yep. Stock Setting :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Julian Jeremiah:
That's what I read about users getting crazy screen time! :good:

I'd never be able to get that screen time having 4G, synchronization, 2 emails accounts, 3 messaging apps, all these ON thru out the whole day! :rolleyes: 5 hours screen time is the best I could obtain
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ksr007:
Any one want trying lidroid kernel ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Julian Jeremiah:
Yes please.. Link? Does it works on N9005?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] menioseten:
[MENTION=3986004]civato[/MENTION] kernel best battery ever.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ksr007:
Only for N900 :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] SleemLDJ:
Noob alert.

Does the bootloader of n9005 have to be unlocked before being able to flash a custom kernel?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Brasc085:
Keep in mind I am speaking on behalf of the Verizon model but from what I have been researching is that AT&T and VZ both come with locked bootloaders and have to be unlocked to do anything. I tried using Odin at first but it failed every time. I ended up using Kingo and that was the only way I could get my phone rooted at first to be able to flash anything. I just upgraded from BajaRom 4.3 to BajaRom 4.4 and had to flash a new kernel to get to 4.4 and had no issues.

Did that answer your question?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jtakagi:
stanley08 -

I've read this thread with interest, as the idle drain on my device (AT&T version) has been driving me crazy. I see all kinds of reports of <1%/hour, but I have never seen anything near that.

I am rooted on stock 4.4.2. I have greenified nearly everything, location off, Google Now off, Power Saving Mode on, airplane mode on, and I froze nearly every AT&T and Samsung app using Titanium Backup. I feel like I've pretty much crippled my phone to try and achieve the type of battery life it seems like this device should get.

Last night I charged to 100%, unplugged and let it sit idle. This morning I was down to 77%. I have attached my BBS dump file. Is there any way you could take a look at it and give me your thoughts?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
Seems OK.

Deep sleep is good

Deep Sleep (): 3 h 14 m 40 s (11680 s) Ratio: 97.9%

WiFi was on for around 2hr

Wifi On (): 1 h 42 m 45 s (6165 s) Ratio: 51.7%

Wifi running status

Wifi Running (): 7 m 59 s (479 s) Ratio: 4.0%

No or Unknown Signal (): 3 h 18 m 48 s (11928 s) Ratio: 100.0%

Regards

Vivek_Neel
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Brasc085:
I agree, everything looks fine here. The battery on my "old phone" was shot for some reason and I used to have to charge it constantly throughout the day. Once I replaced the battery I was getting incredible battery life. Currently on my VZ Note 3 running BajaRom 4.4 KK I am usually around 85-80% when I get home around 530pm. (I unplug around 6am) I am constantly on my phone all day looking/getting emails and making phone calls. I am not saying it is your battery because I am not sure what your battey life was before Rooting. Was it pretty typical?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
Am not a note3 user.

Just helped u what I knew.:)

Regards

Vivek_Neel
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Brasc085:
This shows the XDA forum noob in me :p, I was technically talking to jtakagi about his problem and quoted your post and forgot to quote his as well. My bad! haha! Lesson learned