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[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
See that boldy part, thats what I'm talking about. I myself use screen a lot .. like so a lot. I played games and many things that use screen time a lot, graphical, office's stuffs, etc. Thats 'how I use my phone' behavior.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
example, - people turn their wifi off or whatever before going to sleep. I don't, the only thing I have is blocking mode on, not to wake me or my family, everything is on and still working (what I chose to), in 9 hours I lose miserly 2%. That's why we root, - customization not only visually but on a system level, and the battery lives on.

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so you paying games all day long and whats your complaint? not enough? it'll never be enough.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Dude, I'm going to root just like you, it just that for now I dont find it's the right timing considering that 4.4 Kitkat roll out. Will I greenify it ? Sure 90% I will. I just said that, 'Greenify things wouldnt help much' NOT that I said 'Greenify things wouldnt help at all'.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
Good luck, wait. I bought mine a month ago, 30 minutes later I was rooted and flashed a rom I already picked to flash BEFORE I even bought the device. at first I thought it would be Dr. Ketan's rom but decided on VN Rom (clean, stable, with minor but very useful modifications), never looked back. great battery life. (after a little altering). what do you expect from 4.4 ? some magic will happen? you can always download official 4.4 and flash it with odin but I'm sure by then, there will be a lot of roms based off official 4.4.so what's the point in waiting. I have seen some people giving advices to use battery saving mode, - never. great device, with acceptable battery capacity for all it needs, all you need is a good rom and some altering done on top of that.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
Guys dont root your phone just to save battery. All these apps -greenify paid, gsam pro etc are bull****. After listening to the people especially OP, I rooted my phone to save battery power but nothing works. I tried all possibilities (except custom rom) but still my phone drains 25% overnight, android OS and kernels are always on top and there is no way to stop it.

My point is dont waste hard earned money on those stupid apps.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
I've never had android OS above 15% even completely stock. I don't understand how people are having all these problems with it. Factory reset has been known to help some as well. Personally. I don't think these apps are bull. Some battery savings apps are. Sure I can agree with that. But. To those who expect there phone to be new and improved because they greenified it's not going to work. You won't magically get 3 hours screen on time more now. They are subtle changes. And when all combined can. And from experience. Do make a difference. If you were to do a control test from stock then replicate the exact same usage with all the tweaks. I guarantee a difference. That's my .02 cents.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
My friend I tried all what OP said except underclocking CPU but trust me nothing helped. After reading alot about greenify I bought paid version and tried all possibilities with it but nothing helped. Last night I charged my phone 100% after 7 hours when I woke up my phone was at 73%. All samsung crap, gps bluetooth etc was turned off. Only wifi was ON
[Galaxy Note 3 General] denski101:
Rooting is a double edged sword. You can do all manner of things both good and bad to your battery.

I definetly think greenify helps. Im using the free version coupled with wake lock detector. I think its mentioned in this thread somewhere to greenify all your apps, from my experience DON'T, only greenify what you must and nothing more... Of course someone will come along and say that they did and that worked for them, good for them, do your own tests.

Things to check is your sync settings (accounts) especially the google sync settings. IM apps and location services. Wifi set to always on and scanning always available off. Restrict background data and network auto switch off (think these last two are kitkat exclusives, not sure)

Xprivacy is a great app to block location and internet(not to mention all the other permissions you can revoke) to apps. You can disable apps from app info or better yet uninstall.

As far as battery saving apps, I use battery drain analyser (paid) to identify whats using the most battery nothing more. Once done with the battery app I force close it.

We all use our phones differently and have different needs. Identify yours and act accordingly. Work out what you must keep and what can be frozen, uninstalled, permissions revoked or synced manually. If your probs are during screen on find the app(s) and do the above. If its bad standby time use wakelock detector and greenify. Check the sync settings aswell.

Good luck with your battery woes and dont spend another dime on the battery apps. Most of them are running in the background chewing up more juice.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
That's absurd. I have a zero lemon 10k battery. And overnight I do not lose a single percentage. (It's 3x bigger, therfore less then 3% loss over 8 hours of me sleeping. ) You have a underlying problem that I don't think this op can help you with.

MY thought would be.

A) something is keeping your device awake. What's your cpu freq stats look like after an overnighter of 27% loss. I'd take a gamble and say your most common freq would be somewhere in the mid range. And most likely a lack of deep sleep during that period of time.

B) you could have a faulty battery. As I have not heard of such terrible discharge rates when the phone is not in use by the user.

My recommendation. (Which I agree you should not have to do)

Backup all your user apps using titanium all pictures music videos movies to SD. 'Super backup' app can backup sms contacts bookmarka call log etc. do a factory reset. (If you have custom recovery I would recommend wiping the entire internal storage, REMOVE SD CARD to be safe.)

And restore apps as you need them. See if this makes any difference.

Also.. i regularly restart my device as I find after several hours of usage. She tends to slow down a bit as there are lots of apps running in the background even after force closing (you can see this by checking RAM usage. ) when I start my phone and clear RAM it goes down to the mid 600s. After a full day of usage I can clear RAM and I will be over 1gb of usage. This. Imo. Can be a battery drainer as the RAM is being used when it isn't necessary. I'm sure some will argue about the RAM comment but I feel it makes a difference.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
Wakelock detector shows 51 minutes cpu wakelock by Clock.

But when I check battery usage (under phone settings) I dont see clock anywhere.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
If you battery drains too much, SO MANY things can cause it.

- Bad mobile reception, if you look at my screenshots, i have 'PERFECT' reception

- An app is trolling you

- Or maybe, just maybe.. Battery could even be damaged/faulty/bad. That is a possibility too.

The results I got are the results I got, the screenshots prove it. It doesn't work for you doesn't mean you should downplay the credibility of the post or that of the devs that work so hard to bring those fantastic apps (like greenify) to us.

Mate, let me help you.

Here, Please use BatteryBetterStats to check the app that is causing drain.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809

Run BBS, Turn on Root features and disable Google Analytics in Settings. Also remember to tick all possible options in log settings.

Charge phone full, unplug phone and leave overnight (at least 4 hours COMPLETELY idle), first thing in the morning, dump a log by clicking the share button at the top and selecting dump log.

Send the log saved in root of SDcard to me. I will take a look for you. Cheers!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
Thanks everyone for replying. Everyone suggested different battery apps in just last few posts lol.

I will give it another try whatever you guys suggested and post my results. Hope something helps.

Have a nice day everyone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
Hope we can be of some service. Everyone has there own opinion of what works and doesn't work. Also every device is different some things work for other and not for some. As I said earlier. I think a factory reset is a good start.

With computers and laptops. I would re format on a quarterly basis. Just to keep performance at its peak. I feel phones work the same way. I know your looking for battery savings not performance, however Imo a clean slate never hurts.

Good luck to you. And keep us informed. I'd like to help. I would be quite frustrated if I had the issues you have. And would be looking for someone to point me in the right direction.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] denski101:
Couldn't have said it better!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] symobay:
hi guys,

and especially hi stanley08! (your tips helped me a lot in th past and i like the polite and helpful way you post!) I know you're battery life is great, but you are always on wifi using a mobile router. but exactly for this reason, maybe you are the proper person to aks the following:

as I am quite happy with my battery life on WIFI (7/8hrs screentime + 24hrs standby) im still trying to understand why the heck my battery life is so much worse (half!) on 3G. Its clear to me that 3g needs more battery than wifi and that everything is as well related to my bad gsm signal, but somehow i felt that it's not the only reason. So i did the following test with better battery stats:

exactly 1 hour of standby with screen off on Wifi (morning)

and

exactly 1 hour of standby with screen off on 3G (evening)

identical settings (gear connected over Bluetooth, Imap push with K9 mail, gmail sync, and so on)

The result was kinda strange. Why are all my wakelocks (both partial and kernel) so much more and more frequent on 3g than on wifi? everything is behaving in a different mode, just because the different type of connection (?)... power consumption is doubled! Check the screenshots please. (if their order is messed up, just check the time in the status bar. 10:51 was the end of the 1hour-wifi test, 18:07 was the end of the 1hour-3g-test).

any help would be much apreciated!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yes, battery drains alot more on 3G for some reason, the only feasible one now being Android OS.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
Hey stanley I have saved my log file but dont know how to send it to you. I am using tapatalk pro and only have option to attach pictures.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
I have attached my BBS log files and few screenshots from wakelock detector and battery stats pro app.

hope to hear back from you soon.

thanks

FORGOT TO MENTION I DID A FULL FACTORY RESET AND ROOTED AGAIN BEFORE THIS BATTERY TEST.

STOCK ROM 4.3 MJ4
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
You need to disable knox for starters. Especially if your rooted. I don't know what I'm looking for in logs. But in the screenie it caught my attention. You can do this by freezing anything that says knox in titanium backup.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] denski101:
Wow that better battery app stats is quite extensive! Theres a lot info there, its a bit mind bogglin to look at:eek:.

Right off the bat here my tips:

-disable samsung push service from app info

-got to settings/general/accounts and disable anything that syncs the calender. That would be google, samsung, microsoft exchange, whatever. If you need your calender to sync with your pc or other devices turn if back on, but test it first. Your number one wakelock is calender storage.

-while your in the google sync settings I'd disable anything (preferably everything) you dont need or use.

+1 on getting rid of knox. You might need to go under settings/security/device administrators and untick knox before you can delete or freeze it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] miguelmaldonado:
I always have terrible signal, when I get the phone inside my pocket it drops to one or zero bars but the question is, is there a way to help it?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Sorry mate, if your signal is bad, ur signal is bad. Maybe try changing modem tho...

You didn't follow the instructions i gave. You just dumped a log.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] patomo09:
Guys i have the snapdragon version note 3..

I have big issue with the battery. I currently have 87% with only 18mins of screen time and wifi on.! I am using stock rom rooted. The phone is 3 days old..

Any fix?

Thnx in advance
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
All Knox related services were already disabled with titanium before this battery test.

Thanks anyways :)

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1) I will disable samsung push. But just want to know why is it there at first. What that service does?

2) I need my calendar to be synced to get notified of my work related appointments/ meetings.

And to see my friends/family birthdays.

( whats the point of smartphone if you disable everything. Just saying :)

3) I didn't install knox so there is no knox under security. But there were few knox related services that were disabled using titanium before this test.

ANOTHER THING I FORGOT TO MENTION IS THAT I FACTORY RESET MY PHONE AND ROOTED AGAIN BEFORE THIS BATTERY TEST.

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I followed what you said. But forgot to save log file when I woke up. If there is something wrong with that log file or if I forgot to enable some options please lemme know. I will do that test again. I am sorry, this BBS is so confusing as there are tons of options.

Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
You might have missed some knox apps. As I do not have any knox wakelock over the course of my last 2 days on battery. There are 2 knox apps that start with com.knox.xxxxxxxxxxxx you may have forgotten those.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
View attachment 2526043

All the 6 knox services as show in picture were Frozen using titanium. Anyhow after restarting phone that wakelock didn't show up again.

Samsung have installed so much crap, you disable one thing later something else pops up draining your phone battery.

Sometimes I feel these samsung phones are not reliable. I will considering selling my note 3 and buy HTC one max when it is launched in Canada.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
You did get them all. My mistake.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Ok. It is easy to figure out however :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] x3PoohBear:
Try using one One power guard on play store , it's free. Detects every kind of wake lock including kernel. See if got knox
[Galaxy Note 3 General] FatLadZ:
I get one and a half days on standard battery and 2 days on uprated battery :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AldrichDSaints:
This is mine. Stock Kitkat official firmware but rooted
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pekodieu:
[MENTION=5492657]AldrichDSaints[/MENTION] : what did you do after root?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
UPDATED OP to avoid issues. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AldrichDSaints:
I just disable some apps, install Greenify, turn off all the features I don't use, install DS Battery Saver and set it to Slumberer and install SetCpu to set my Governor to ondemand. You can also lower down the maximum frequrncy if you want to save few minutes of your battery.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Metaxify:
Could you tell me where did you get that battery icon from the second test? :P

Thanks for the guide by the way, helped me a lot to save some battery, although I haven't installed a custom kernel yet. I'll do that ASAP.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
I was on Dr.Ketan V3 ROM for Exynos Note 3. Has many battery icons. Cheers! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] denski101:
My Settings/Set up that are working for me.

Fully Stock Official 4.4Polish Rom-rooted. Snapdragon N3

Launcher: Smart Launcher Pro with multi live picture wallpaper.

Google sync settings

Greenify(root)-improve standby time (screen off). I only greenify whats keeping the phone from deep sleeping, nothing more.

Wakelock detector(root)- helps to find apps that need greenifing/freezing/uninstalling.

System sound settings

Svoice settings

Xprivacy(root) requires Xposed framemork.-blocks/spoofs permissions to apps. Useful as a firewall. I block location and internet to all apps that dont need it. Even works on system apps.

Spen settings

Disabled apps(from app info)

Data usage advanced settings

*note- turning off background data will stop the stock email app from syncing over mobile data!

Device Administrators

Advanced WiFi settings.

Ram Usage

Battery Drain Analyser Pro- (non root,paid)

This was my go to app for identifying apps that are draining the battery. Once finished with it I force close.

10%

Better Battery Stats- (free,root)

I've just purchased this so im not familiar with it yet. Right away I'd say this app is the most comprehensive of all the battery apps(that I've used). There's a bit of a learning curve aswell, not quite as user friendly as other battery drain apps. If your were going to buy only one this would be it.

Cpu usage

EDIT. I'll update the list when I come across things I forgot.

-google play store/settings- turn off auto update apps

-bootmanager (free,root+xposed framework)- kill apps from loading into memory at start-up.

-Advanced Task Cleaner Pro(free,non-root)- memory task cleaner, can be set to clean at startup and also create a autokill list to stop apps from reloading, once killed from the memory.

Its important to keep your expectations in check, we all use our phones differently. e.g something I might turn off, you might rely on every day.

The battery life I've come to expect is anywhere between 6 1/2 - 8 hrs screen on and 24 standby. If your in this zone your doing well. If not, then you can do better.

Couple of other things:

-Im one who actually prefers a dim screen (believe it or not), although with moderation.

-I rarely use the gps and location services.

-Dont own any bluetooth peripherals or an Sview cover.

-I should note that Im on prepaid. So mobile data is off 90%.

-I carry a "pocket wifi".

-I haven't touched power saving mode for quite sometime as I find battery life is good enough without it.

-forgot to mention google now, I use Svoice instead, so it's disabled.

-Important- run your own tests and find what works for YOU! Use the info you find to build a base then add to it and modify it. This device is definantly capable of some impressive battery life.

Instead of writing a wordy post I thought screenshots would be better. Im sure there's stuff I forgot to add and I hope someone finds this useful.

Cheers

P.s here's my latest battery cycle.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=49648970
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Great mate! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OMG-FFS:
Great tips stanley08! I've never complained about my batt life, especially now that I've got a 10,000 mah zerolemon battery, but I picked up a few tips from this tread. Thanks!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Lol! Nice! How's the Z Lemon? I don't think I am looking to Invest that much on my Note 3. Not anymore, as I will be picking up the next Snapdragon 805 device on the market. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OMG-FFS:
ZL is a huge battery, comes with it's own case and make the phone look huge, but I like it and I like that I don't need to worry about running out of juice. 2x per week charging is what I like the most, can stretch it even longer if I want to.

Yeah I wouldn't invest much into a phone extras if I was changing phones every 6 months or so, but I see no point except of wanting to play with a new gadget. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] SAMERKAD:
how do you manage to have 2 days and 7 hours screen time? my max is 5 hours screen time and 1d and 8hours..

my settings are so close to yours ... but never got the 2 days..

any advise?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
Do u use wifi or mobile data?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Do you use WiFi or data? I am always on WiFi, even when outdoors. :) I have a pocket Router / Mobile WiFi / MiFi. Which ever name you know it as. You will always get less time on data. But it's important to check the apps that can be draining ur battery...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] SAMERKAD:
i am between both.. but mostly WIFI. isn't by default the data stops when you are on WIFI or you have to turn it off manually:?

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i am between both. but mostly WIFI.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] OMG-FFS:
It turns off automatically once you connect to a WiFi.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
It doesn't turn off, it becomes inactive. For me, either WiFi is on or Data is on. Not both at the same time. And when my wifi is on, i set my phone to 2G only, hence my perfect mobile signal and lesser drain. ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
Anyone ever had this happen. I checked my batt stats and android system was at 60%. I refreshed and it kept increasing till it was at 90% then everything in stats erased. Screenshot below

I then force closed settings and reopened it and I got this

(Screen did say 200% I guess in screenshot it refreshed nonetheless a messed up value)

So a little concerned I rebooted my phone. And things are back to normal.. quite odd. Also android stats is no longer higher then screen as I originally saw before several refreshes got me a blank battery stats.

Happy its fixed but curious if anyone else has experienced this type of bug?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Is dat even a TW based ROM? If NO, Then there is your answer. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
It isn't your absolutely right. I didn't suspect it to be the issue. But you are probably right.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] drdino:
Is there any way to set the phone to 2g automatically whenever it's connected to a wifi network? Automateit doesn't seem to have a routine for that.

Sent from my Note 3 using smoke signals.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yep! Your signature says CM 11. So dats the issue mate. CM builds and bugs are like Best Friends. :p

Actually, there are apps that can do this i think anyways, I found 3 for you. Play around with them and see id anyone works to ur satisfaction

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.voidvapps.intelli3g

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.curvefish.widgets.network2g3gonoff (TRY THIS FIRST)

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.softxperience.android.switchnetworktype
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RobFreundlich:
I rooted/unlocked my phone using CASUAL, and would now like to install a 4.3 ROM. However, there are so many out there, with so much variation in features, requirements, and apparent degrees of stability, that I can't figure out which one to use.

What I'm looking for are the Note 3 features - in particular the new S-Pen features such as Air Command, popup windows, and the "turn your scribbled notes into useful text such as contacts" thing (I forget what it's called). I found a few ROMs that claim to support that (DN2, SkyNote, others?), but they want CWM recovery, where CASUAL gave me TWRP recovery. Does that mean I can't use them?

Also, they talk about using Odin to flash an extra ZIP and kernel if WiFi isn't working - can I do that with TWRP, or is that something separate?

But more broadly speaking, is there someplace I can go to see a summary (in one posting or document) of what ROMs are out there, what features they have, what recovery is required, etc? This would make "comparison shopping" much easier and help flatten my learning curve a bit.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] pool_shark:
CWM and TWRP are somewhat interchangeable. They are both custom recovery methods and people have their preferences.

Typically, unless the OP in the thread specifically says don't use one or the other you'll be OK with either.

You cannot flash an Odin package in recovery.