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[Moto X Q&A] Cozume:
The Verizon DE has the same radios as the Verizon retail Moto X. They are both GSM SIM unlocked out of the box. Here are the specs:

Networks

GSM/GPRS/EDGE - UMTS/HSPA + up to 42 Mbps - CDMA/EVDO Rev. A - 4G LTE

2G/2.5G GSM/GPRS/EDGE bands

850/900/1800/1900 MHz

3G UMTS bands

850/900/1900/2100 MHz with HSPA+ up to 42 Mbps (B5/B8/B2/B1)

3G CDMA bands

EVDO Rev. A: 850/1900 MHz (BC0/BC1)

4G LTE bands

750 MHz (B13)
[Moto X Q&A] syathibiy:
So, I believe call, sms, and data should be working as per usual, right?
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
Can anyone confirm that a 4.4.2 Verizon update will indeed fix the LTE bug?!
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
I don't believe Verizon has pushed 4.4.2 update yet. At least I didn't get it... and I haven't seen postings of a VZW Soak test either, so I wouldn't expect anyone to be in a position to confirm just yet.
[Moto X Q&A] easyxtarget:
Now that it is out, can somebody test the LTE bug and also see if its possible to add an APN now?
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
I popped an the T-Mobile sim and can enter the APN but still get no data. Very strange. Can't get anything to work. Maybe someone else has a fix or maybe you can't use it on T-Mobile now
[Moto X Q&A] landale:
But it worked before on 4.4? I quickly pulled the built in APN file and noticed that it no longer has an APN option for fast.t-mobile.com, just epc.t-mobile.com. I could have sworn it was listed in the 4.4 software. Which APN did you add?
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
On 4.4 it automatically added the APN for me. I got LTE bit no voice or text. This was a known bug and there was a fix for it that forced hspa/hspa+ speed. Voice and data didn't work with LTE. I added fast.T-Mobile APN and could not connect to LTE in an area that previously connected to LTE on 4.4. What a mess this is. Why couldn't it be easy!!!
[Moto X Q&A] landale:
Yes I recall that bug. Basically on 4.4 it would connect to LTE but you couldn't make call or send text messages. On HSPA+ it still worked fine though. Are you saying that data doesn't work at all as of 4.4.2 (like on HSPA+) or just that unlike before it won't even connect to LTE but will still connect to HSPA if configured to just do that?
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
I can not get any data to work
[Moto X Q&A] landale:
Have you tried using an app like this one https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.tapbase.LTEswitcher

I imagine you already have but if you haven't you can try using it to set the phone to GSM (auto) PRL. I am guessing Motorola decided that since they couldn't get LTE to work correctly with T-Mobile to just disable it but there must still be a way to connect to HSPA for data. I have to imagine HSPA data is better then no data at all.
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
Tried it. No luck.
[Moto X Q&A] easyxtarget:
And you have the phone set to global mode or LTE/GSM
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
I've tried it all
[Moto X Q&A] landale:
Aside from the removal of the fast.t-mobile.com APN the only other thing I noticed was the change Select Network option in Mobile Network Settings. I am pretty sure before you set a preference but now it's UTMS only, GSM only and Automatic. I am sure you have already tried all of these but if not maybe you can take a look there? It appears this option is greyed out if you aren't set to LTE/GSM/UMTS.
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
I tried. I'm frustrated as hell and feel I should have bought the T-Mobile version and just used a Verizon sim in it. Idk why its so difficult to figure this stuff out. Maybe someone else smarter then me can get it to work!

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Do you think I have to call Verizon and get it unlocked? I know they say they are factory unlocked but I'm on an unlimited data plan still. Could they possibly block me from using other sims? I pop the T-Mobile sim in my wife's Verizon iPhone 5 and it works perfectly.

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It boots up and then says Sorry this sim card is from an unknown source. I click OK and have edge speed data and then no data at all. Any ideas?
[Moto X Q&A] landale:
The phone is still SIM unlocked as I imagine you still get signal for voice and texting and Verizon is required to have all LTE phones be SIM unlocked. It's the data side that isn't working. This usually means an issue with the APN as the phone is still listed as being GSM capable so it would have to work at least on GSM and HSPA for global travelers. The issue here has to be something that changed in how it connects to the T-Mobile US network. Which APN did you enter for T-Mobile?
[Moto X Q&A] pschatz12:
Read my last post. Here's the screen shots. I can't connect to anything T-Mobile. Sim not recognized. Could they possibly be blocking me since I'm on an old plan?
[Moto X Q&A] landale:
The phone shows you are connected to T-Mobile but as it picks up a signal however it is not pulling a phone number off of the SIM and obviously not connecting to the data network. Here is a suggestion from another thread I found for the Droid Ultra which is a similar phone. The app he references is similar to the one I suggested yesterday so you can try using that one instead first.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48984446&postcount=1
[Moto X Q&A] landale:
Just to follow up here. Another user reported getting HSPA+ data on 4.4.2 by changing the APN. This makes sense as I am almost certain the problem is that the new built in APN for T-Mobile is broken. Here is my post in the other thread that shows the old 4.4 APN and the new 4.4.2 APN.

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50657575&postcount=8

Maybe you can try adding a new APN, say calling it T-Mobile Fixed using the exact APN information used in the 4.4 build. The select that from the APN list and try again?
[Moto X Q&A] Zandrelli:
Success in SoCal

I have had similar issues of not connecting to the TMO network when I got my Moto X from Motorola. While under 4.4.0, after playing with some settings I was successful while using the following Settings UNDER Mobilel Network Settings:

Data enable: √ (checked on)

Preferred Network Type: LTE/GSM/UMTS (do not use Global)

Access Point Names (leave it blank) it will be pulled over the air automagically [I will try to enter the APN once I know the LTE APN from TMO]

Network Operators: (selecte it and it will search for the available Networks, use TMO if you are using TMO's sim or ATT if using ATTm sim)

Select Network: UMTS only

Obviously, this applies to a Retail Verizon MotoX that comes automatically unlocked. No need to call the carrier.

One very interesting point, while under KitKat 4.4.0, I was able to reach 4G LTE, it would have the logo on the top right corner. I tested the speed (using speedtest.net) and when near to a cell tower, I would achieve speeds in excess of 25Mb!!!! using TMO's network. On the average around Los Angeles, I was getting 8Mb which is good. HOWEVER, once I upgraded to 4.4.2, I ONLY see the H+ signal and my average speeds have come down to 6Mb. I guess something must have happen with the 4.4.2. upgrade.

The voice and text issues, I did not test, since I use GoogleVoice EXCLUSIVELY for all my calls and since said services uses the internet for all functions of calling and texting, I have not had a problem. So it may help in using Google voice to make calls is necessary.

I hope the this info helps. Ciao.

~ Z :cowboy:
[Moto X Q&A] andywxy:
Thanks man! So far only your post worked for me, now both Data and Calls works.

Interesting thing though, when the phone reboots, it still complains the Sim is from an unknown source :confused: But that did not effect its functionality. Also I'm only seeing H+ signal.
[Moto X Q&A] tunez23:
[ UOTE=andywxy;50710962]Thanks man! So far only your post worked for me, now both Data and Calls works.

Interesting thing though, when the phone reboots, it still complains the Sim is from an unknown source :confused: But that did not effect its functionality. Also I'm only seeing H+ signal.[/QUOTE]

I tried this yesterday at tmobile and came up with the same result. We couldn't get let signal at all.
[Moto X Q&A] ShamelesslyRed:
April Fools Day Joke from Motorola Support?

Thank you very much for sharing your steps, you fixed my phone! I was about to eBay this little bugger after spending 30 minutes with Motorola Support via chat. They told me the following statements (I changed the names, but everything else is verbatim). Maybe this was their idea of an April Fool's Day joke:
[Moto X Q&A] asatnik11:
Lol, the Verizon version is a CDMA/LTE/GSM world phone. It doesn't have AWS bands for UMTS/HSPA but that doesn't matter if you are in areas where they've refarmed PCS to 3G, such as where I live.

I finally got LTE data and UMTS/HSPA voice working flawlessly with 4.4.2 on Tmobile by flashing the Tmobile factory firmware with RSD on my Verizon Dev edition Moto X. Before that I had to disable LTE completely to get data to work, even after fixing the APN. I wouldn't have tried this normally, but I was getting tired of only having HSPA+ data service.

I modified the XML used with RSD to NOT flash the boot loader just in case they were different between the 2 models. I did flash the modem and everything else. Do so at your own risk!!!

Hope this helps someone!

edit: I just went back and read you exchange with Moto support and I can only say :facepalm:.
[Moto X Q&A] SilentMFV:
I can confirm that this process works on a NON DEV VZW MOTO X. My phone finally works as it should on the T-Mobile network, and Its all thanks to this person right here. Scary of course, but it flat out worked. I removed the getvar line as you would for any RSD flash with the moto x, and also removed the motoboot line (bootloader). ZERO errors and phone functions as it should.
[Moto X Q&A] bpickard:
Have either of you experienced any issues with the T-Mobile firmware? Just have to remove the bootloader portion for this to work?
[Moto X Q&A] SilentMFV:
The getvar line needs removed as well, it will cause rsd to fail right off the bat, and the motoboot line. Zero errors flashing and I have experienced zero errors since the flash, everything works as it should. LTE during calls etc. As near as I can tell my phone functions exactly like the T-Mobile variant of the moto x.
[Moto X Q&A] asatnik11:
The only problem I have run into is dropping to EDGE when I'm in an area where PCS hasn't been refarmed to UMTS/HSPA since the XT1060 only supports LTE on AWS frequencies, not UMTS/HSPA. In 2 weeks I've only run into this once. The firmware works flawlessly, however, this is just a hardware limitation of the XT1060 on T-mobile.
[Moto X Q&A] bpickard:
So remove - getvar line, motoboot line and the boot line correct? leave everything else and I should have a working LTE handoff if everything goes smoothly?
[Moto X Q&A] asatnik11:
Just remove getvar and motoboot (bootloader). LTE handoff works great for me.
[Moto X Q&A] bpickard:
So did this and it seems to be working great. I had some trouble on my first go through with it not booting and since I'm in Canada I figured I would try the Rogers firmware with the same steps, that booted up fine but for some reason wouldn't see the Rogers sim that I had in the phone. I downloaded the T-Mobile firmware again and flashed it, working great now. Thank you for the solution!
[Moto X Q&A] coutwice:
I'm trying to flash my Verizon Moto X with Tmo firmware but I'm not having any luck with it even after removiing getvar and motoboot lines. Am I using the correct version? this TMO_RETAIL_XT1053_4.4.2-KXA20.16-1.25_MR3_CFC?
[Moto X Q&A] buyrihn:
I'm a newbie when it comes to flashing ROM's. Do I simply follow the steps here, and make sure to delete two lines (the one with getvar, and the other with motoboot)?

I'm on a Mac, but I've got access to a virtualized copy of Windows 7, Vista, and 8. People mentioned driver issues in Windows 8—do such issues exist in 7 or Vista?
[Moto X Q&A] asatnik11:
That's correct. I'm not sure about the driver issues you're referring to, but I used a windows 7 machine. A VM should be fine.
[Moto X Q&A] cal4877:
Yes, I have a Verizon Not Dev edition and went to a T-Mobile store to test it. I put a Sim card in and it worked fine. I just had to adjust the apn settings. I was able to get LTE as well.
[Moto X Q&A] buyrihn:
I think you mentioned that you have a dev-unlocked Verizon version, but I don't, and I can't seem to flash the T-Mobile ROM. Are you (or is anyone) aware of any issues with 4.4.2? I'm super frustrated.
[Moto X Q&A] dacrannis:
Did you figure this out? I also have a non-dev Verizon moto x and was thinking about doing this to get the LTE and voice/text at the same time, but don't want to brick my phone.
[Moto X Q&A] @work:
This has been of interest to me; as an owner of a droid maxx that wants to move to tmobile.

When I recieved the phone originally it worked just fine with tmobile then after an update(4.2 to 4.4) these problems appeared for users.

I noticed something else on the dev edition page for the phone but not on the motoX or regular maxx page

http://www.motorola.com/us/consumer...x-Developer-Edition.html#specs-droid-maxx-pdp

under specs you will see that recently they added the line

"Verizon service required.GSM roaming available outside the US only. "

Now, the droid series and X series share the same guts, we can even use X radios, but the problem appears to be artificially created IMHO. Folks on dev editions that are using cyanogenmod or other firmware are not having this trouble.

So if I bring torches to Basking ridge, who will bring pitchforks, because I thinks its a terrible thing to have done to us. Especially those of us that paid full price, I intended to take this thing to tmobile when I bought it.

for a better run down of the problems you will have check here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2591954
[Moto X Q&A] dacrannis:
So, I tried this one non-dev VZ phone and get error on boot flash -- "Failed hab check for boot: 0x56 preflash validation failed for boot". Any ideas?
[Moto X Q&A] dacrannis:
Is your bootloader locked? I've tried this several times and gets stuck at the boot.img line. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
[Moto X Q&A] SilentMFV:
Yes the only way this will work is if your phone has an unlocked bootloader, otherwise you will receive errors during flashing. I unlocked my non dev through the chinese middle man sometime ago. Best 40 bucks I ever spent. My only regret was not buying the unlock code for my wifes moto x, but I had no way of knowing this would work:( Assuming you follow the posted instructions and take care not to flash the bootloader itself, all should work well.
[Moto X Q&A] buyrihn:
I got error after error, but thankfully none of the errors bricked my phone. The error is the result of the locked bootloader, and Verizon Moto-X's cannot be unlocked (except for a certain on again/off again asian gentleman). I was under the impression that flashing would work fine even with the locked bootloader because it was a legitimate version of the software direct from Motorola, but alas, that seems to not be the case.

I've disabled LTE for the time being, and am surviving on HSPA+. I've got to be honest—I'm disappointed it's come to that. Especially considering that Verizon seems to be the culprit, and the cure for that seems to be removing whatever it is in the software that they've disabled/enabled.
[Moto X Q&A] gokusimpson:
I was in the same boat until I caved and purchased an unlocked Moto X for my new T-Mobile service. I was using my Verizon Moto X on T-Mobile on HSPA so that I could get voice/text for about a week until my new phone came in. I could get LTE, but it would not get texts or calls.

I factory reset my Verizon Moto X and sold it on Swappa to a guy using it on Verizon. Should work, right? He could connect to LTE and send/receive texts, but could not make/receive calls. So weird. Verizon tech support tried to fix it, but no luck yet. He's returning it.

Did Verizon break my Verizon Moto X from going back to Verizon??? The Verizon tech told the buyer that it could be changes to the BIOS that would cause issues with programming the SIM card. I've never rooted this phone or tried accessing anything. It has only been on stock software for its life. Any thoughts?

:confused::confused::confused::confused:
[Moto X Q&A] bpickard:
4.4.3 Update

So I am going to guess that updating the VZW Phone with TMo software through the regular OTA update process is not a great idea, do we have to wait for the images to be put up and do a fresh install or is there any way to use the OTA?
[Moto X Q&A] jasoraso:
I had some strange issues when swapping between a VZW sim and a T-mobile sim, sounds similar to what you experienced.

They were resolved by erasing the "modemst1" and another fastboot command regarding "oem carrier vzw" in fastboot. I don't really know what those steps do, but I'm guessing they wipe the modem memory (of things like PRL lists etc), then the next time the phone is booted up, it initializes those memories using the sim and the radio towers.

if you do a search in the moto x forums for the fastboot commands I listed above, you will probalbly find the different commands I used.

Edit: I found the thread I pulled the commands from: http://xdaforums.com/moto-x/general/guide-moto-x-return-to-100-stock-using-t2446515

I used the commands in the "Method 2" for erasing the modemst1 and modemst2, (I may have flashed "fsg.mb"), then I erased the cache, cusomize, and did the oem config carrier vzw.

I don't know if this process works if you don't have your bootloader unlocked.

I think the method 1 in that thread using rsdlite could also help.
[Moto X Q&A] gokusimpson:
I've never attempted to unlock my VZW moto x (isn't it still locked down?) or even root it (stock runs nice enough). I'll try to use rsdlite to see if I can completely get it back to stock. I still have my old vzw sim card so maybe I'll put it back in after I use rsdlite. If it can change the modem when I put the T-mobile sim card in it, shouldn't it be able to switch back when a vzw sim is put in? So weird. Thanks.
[Moto X Q&A] bpickard:
Just in case anyone was wondering I received the update notification on my phone and installed it overtop of the TMo ROM on my Verizon Dev edition and everything seems to be working fine for me so far.
[Moto X Q&A] Photo4N6:
Brief experience using Verizon Moto X on T-Mobile - it works!

I am considering getting a nano SIM from T-Mobile for a month of international travel to take advantage of their unlimited texts and 2G data, along with $0.20 per minute voice. All are much less than Verizon travel plans. (Note that I also get global Boingo WiFi from an AmEx platinum card perk.)

I know the Verizon Moto X is unlocked, as are all Verizon 4G LTE phones. So I walked into a T-Mobile store, placed a T-Mobile nano SIM into my phone, and booted the phone. It still showed the Verizon boot sequence but jumped right on the T-Mobile system. My test call, text and email worked in the store.

I expect to risk the $50 plan and $10 SIM card cost for my upcoming trip to 4 countries.
[Moto X Q&A] donslade:
Now I'm curious. Are you saying that you installed the 4.4.2 (or ealier) SW for a T-Mobile XT1053 onto a VZW Dev XT1060 and EVERYTHING works? Does this mean that the XT1060 is now a XT1053 with access to all the T-mobile LTE bands?

Thanks in advance!
[Moto X Q&A] bpickard:
Hey, donslade check out page 6 of this thread for some more info on changing the firmware. All credit goes to asatnik11 for trying this out in the first place. For me switching to the TMo ROM has been fantastic, no more issues with LTE stopping texts and calls from coming in, and I get great reception, though I am in Canada running on Rogers. If I am not mistaken the VZW version has an extra band in it that isn't listed on the VZW that is compatible with GSM which allows for the LTE to work on those networks but for some reason there was the SMS/calling with LTE bug that is fixed with the TMo ROM. If you look at asatnik11's posts he states that there are areas that you run in to EDGE speeds due lack of refarming to UMTS/HSPA but if you are in an area that this isn't an issue then everything should be fine. It is a little scary changing the firmware but if you have done it before it shouldn't be a problem, just make sure to take your time and perform all of the right steps. Remember though that you are responsible for whatever you do to your device and if for some reason it gets bricked the rest of us are not to blame.
[Moto X Q&A] donslade:
Thanks! This will come in handy when my VZW contract is up and I want to use my XT1060 on T-Mo.
[Moto X Q&A] isaakmg:
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[Moto X Q&A] samwathegreat:
Forum rules require the use of the English language here. I'm not understanding any of your posts....
[Moto X Q&A] isaakmg:
Sorry, problem with imput of text no languages....
[Moto X Q&A] cpizzle98:
Moto X on 4.4.4 works like a charm

Hello all,

I wanted to share my findings. I recently signed up for t-mobile's 7 day test drive and got an iphone5s with a nano sim in it. After a few days of fun with the iphone5s, I took the nano sim out and put it into my friend's Verizon moto X (bought on motomaker) which was recently upgraded to 4.4.4 like a week ago. When turning it on, the verizon logo came up and all, and then I got a pop up saying the device does not recognize the sim. So, from all the forum comments, I went into the mobile network settings and changed from Global to GSM. After i chose that, I saw the 4G LTE icon come up and lighted full bars. My friend's house has great tmobile 4G LTE signal btw. I then tested making calls. I called a few numbers and that worked. When calling, the 4G LTE icon changes to H, but the calls go through. After hanging up, it's back to 4G LTE. I was excited to see this work without hacking the phone and putting a rom on it (have had nightmares of getting phones back to stock after bricking a few :eek: ) For those who've tried with previous Android versions and didn't get it to work, maybe 4.4.4 is the long awaited solve to your problems! Hope that helps! Oh, another note, I haven't tried it in areas where the signal is poor but in the area where I live, luckily, t-mobile is strong with no black out areas.
[Moto X Q&A] dekyle:
Same experience. I bought a 4.4.2 Verizon phone for T-Mobile in the Chicago area and it all works the same as isdescribed. I'd love to figure out a way to send and receive calls on LTE though. I've heard it works on the T-Mobile ROM but I can't flash as I'm on 4.4.4 now.
[Moto X Q&A] RAZRBL8DE:
I'm in the same boat with my XT1060 Dev edition. I updated to 4.4.4, then a week later switched from VZW to t-mobile, only to have calling issues when connected to LTE. Perhaps it could be that I'm using the soak version instead of the official OTA. Hopefully t-mobile will start their rollout of 4.4.4 soon, at&t sent out soak invites this week so I hold out hope until then.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
For the Verizon XT1060, the Soak test OTA.zip, initially leaked FXZ, and the final OTA and FXZ are all the same.
[Moto X Q&A] ericizzy1:
did anyone find a way to have the verizon DE working on tmobile with no issues?
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
After upgrading my VZW X Dev Edition (unlocked and rooted) to 4.4.4, it is much smoother than in the past when I put my T-Mobile SIM in.

I didn't have to enter T-Mobile's APN settings on my X, and voice, sms, mms and data work, including HSPA+ and LTE. (note: I'm in an area where T-mobile has refarmed their 1900mhz from edge to HSPA/HSPA+)

When on LTE, and I make a call, the phone reverts back to HSPA+ and voice/data continues to work. After I hang up the call, it takes a little bit, but the phone goes back to LTE for data.