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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
I was considering to buy a imwatch before i found the Gear for half price and decided to give it a try with fOmey stuff.

Few people followin this post, at different local time, it's hard to follow in real time...I'm from italy

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I think the problem is that the message profile does not appear in the bt settings on the Gear like the bt tethering profile does, so you cannot turn it on
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude the i'mwatch is the single worst piece of hardware i have ever owned.

See my relative blog post for more info:

http://notjusthitech.blogspot.gr/2013/04/smartwatch-is-it-really-smart-watch-if.html

The Gear is all the i'mwatch could ever dream of becoming and even more.

I am from Greece, by the way.

fOmey is in Australia, so yes we have a time zone problem!!!

Merry Christmas to all!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
It is true that all we see is the tethering option. But, as i have before said:

In fOmey we trust for doing the impossible.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Funny post on your blog man!

Btw i realized that gear will be long better than imwatch, but for a destiny joke we have great device without things and mind-closed, and a crap **** with functions that we need! We must combine! Or wait for iWatch or Google Watch...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude trust me on this one. You DO NOT WANT the i'mwatch. Even if it works with the iPhone.

The iWatch may take more than a year before it becomes reality.

Our only hope is fOmey. Otherwise it's back to Pebble for me.

But i have a good feeling about the whole thing.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] GP1138:
I got the watch as a Christmas gift. I have rooted it, and used it for several phone calls. Aside from the speaker popping at loud volumes, I am very happy with it, but THIS is what I really love:

Torque connected via Bluetooth to my OBDII adapter. And when I quit the app, it connected right back to my iPhone 5.

All I need is notifications and caller ID, but this is a damn cool gadget even without that stuff.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude, did you connect the watch directly to the OBD adapter?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] GP1138:
Yes.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Cool! And you are running the torque (or smth like that) app natively on the watch right?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] GP1138:
Yes. It works really well. I've been using the watch so much that my battery is already dead, lol.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] raiu:
any update with this????? :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
So guys, no luck for the MAP profile.

Hope in a solution for the caller ID issue, not reading anything from the contacts app, never display the name.

For notifications I can avoid the problem using directly gmail and Facebook on the Gear, and using Whatsapp on the Gear for messages.

But the caller Id problem it's hard to solve, I can't remember all of my contacts numbers, I only remember my wife number, parents, some friends, caller ID is SO important!

Maybe there is difference between "Headset profile" and "Hands free profile"? the null Rom seems to have the first one, the second has more features.

When I use my Parrot hands free kit in my car, in Iphone settings I see it asking me for download the phone book, groups and stuff. When I use the Gear no options displayed in iphone settings. So it's recognized in a different way.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] raiu:
Martian watches are able to do it using its app on an android phone, you can also make and take calls from this watch. I am getting mine on monday to test out with the iphone. I bet there is a piece of code in the martian apk that would help. Unfortunately i no longer have an android device (other then the gear) so i cant pull the apk

here the link for the app

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.martianwatches.martianwatchalerts&hl=en
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
The Smartwatch+ has a lot of features, maybe we could use that if it's possible to create an apk for the Gear that communicates with the app already existing via Bluetooth. Something we could name "smartwatch+ receiver" for Gear. I would pay even 10 dollars for something working like this.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
I also wrote to #pacosal that did apps for Sony smartwatch and pebble...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude it's good that you wrote to debs. Let's see what they will say.

I would easily pay 20 USD for such an app.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] pacosal:
Hi guys,

I'm pacosal from spain.

Robotblog, wrote me in order to get to this thread. I had no idea about Samsung gear null rom so far, but It's a good work.

I have not skill developing on IOS (I don't like it!), but if you can develop an App for IOS that can send that receive notifications and send them to any web service, may be it's easy to develop an App for Gear to receive them and show them to the user.

BTW, Could you try if this App works on Gear? https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.pacosal.mdm

It uses GCM to communicate with devices.

If so, the IOS App could send post to web service sending notifications messages that could be sent to Gear App.

Regards,

pacosal
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Will try this app in the next few hours. Thank you pacosal!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Will this use bluetooth to communicate ? Or would a internet connection be required on both devices ?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] pacosal:
In this case yes.

Right now I don't have a gear, but reading this thread I'm looking for one. Then I will try to see new possibilities.

Bluetooth connection will be perfect.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
The other thing to solve it's the caller id that never shows names but only numbers, cause can't read the phone book even if you save contacts in the contacts app on the Gear.

Hope you'll find a Gear for yourself, there is a rumor Samsung will present Gear 2 at MWC in Barcelona, so maybe some guys want to' sell their Gear to buy the new one.

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I asked for a solution in the pebble section:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=48928474#post48928474
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Hey pacosal my man,

I installed the ownmdm app on the Gear. Do i need an app on the iPhone as well?

Dude, after RTFM i see that i have to log onto your website first. However, i do not have a Windows PC. Can i run the java PC app from a Mac?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Robotblog dude thanks for calling Pacosal. I think you are quite good at attracting debs. Robh never answered my pm on pebble forums.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] pacosal:
You need a Google + account and a browser. Then add the imei (if it is showing in your gear) and send commands to it.

Tell me if that works.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude i do not think the Gear has an IMEI. Someone please confirm.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] pacosal:
If so, the ownMdm App wil show it to you!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] rmddsantos:
Hi guys

First i wanna say BIG THX to fOmey, for his great work, i use the gear since vers. 10.1 and its getting better and better. Im an samsung employer and our whole company (over 170 employes) in my country wants your rom, the president wants it too :)

[MENTION=310234]gidi[/MENTION]

I can confirm u that the gear has not an IMEI, there is a serial but no imei.

Cheers from coooold Switzerland
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Bring us some sdk or secret stuff!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Just sent an email to Robh, the dev who has created the excellent smartwatch+ iPhone app for the Pebble asking for his help or his opinion regarding the project.

Hopefully he will get back to us.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Great job gidi, best of luck with it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude, i feel like a project manager asking people to do things while in the same time doing nothing myself!

Still i gotta try because the iPhone deserves an iWatch and Apple is already too late.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] robhh:
Hi everyone,

I'm the Smartwatch+ dev for Pebble and have some experience with jailbreak tweaks. gidi made me aware of this thread. It seems like you guys made some good progress already and this is definitely an interesting project. I'd probably be tempted to push this a little further and get notifications working if I actually had a Gear, but I don't.

Do you guys have PBAP working on the Galaxy side? Then it shouldn't be a huge issue to display Caller ID. For other notifications, MAP via BTNotificationEnabler seems to be the best route - that seems like what you're exploring already. Are you guys sure that MAP profiles are working fine on the Gear? Any chance to try those with Android? If the Gear supports BTLE you could also try ANCS, that would probably be better.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
fOmey say that MAP is already implemented in his rom, and iPhone support it automatically, but no luck so far...we are missing something, or MAP isn't supported well on the galaxy side. So I was going with the idea to think about an android app that could catch the notifications that your app is sending form iphone over bluetooth. What kind of protocol did you use for creating smartwatch+? MAP? It's only a mindstorming, I do not have knowledge about developing, so I don't know if has sense what I'm thinking.

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I realized that my words are not so clear...In few words...try to emulate the pebble firmware on the galaxy side, to be able to catch notifications form various pebble iOS apps (like your smartwatch+)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Thank you Robert for getting back to us. I think we should make a headcount of people who are really interested in getting this project to work. If there are ten of us let's say then with a donation of 30 USD each we could help Robert in getting a Gear. So, if anyone wants to actively contribute to the project, please pm me with the amount you can offer towards the goal of getting a Gear for Robert.

By the way, fOmey my man i just paypaled you a few beers (2GG03685GB3746047). I can't believe i forgot doing this all this time, after all you have done for us.

Also, fOmey my man, what about the PBAP on the Gear? Do we have this? Can we add this?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Consider it enabled in the next version of null_ although like everything I can not guarantee it will work as I cant test..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude, i thought you had an iPhone as well. You don't?

Thank you man!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] rmddsantos:
Hi Robotblog.

:) i would give u some secret stuff, but there are some guys from samsung who r in this forum too, and u know we have hard rules, want to keep my position in this company :) and also the sdk, i dont work at the Office or HQ from samsung, i work as representative supporting Retailer & Local dealer-stores. so sorry dude :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Was a joke, no problem man!

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You have testers...we are! :cool:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] groovy2312:
F0mey if you need a beta tester I'm here I have galaxy gear and iphone 5 and 5s and galaxy s4

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Robhh if you need a beta tester let me know thanks body.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] LaDamian:
I'm pretty interested in watching this develop. My girlfriend is an iPhone user, but she really wants a companion watch that will enable her to make phone calls and read notifications.

The only watches I'm aware of that support iPhone notifications are the pebble and the cookoo (the later of which is really crap), and they both require apps running on the iPhone to work. Are we assuming an app on the iPhone is not in fact required? Good luck with the development. I'll definitely buy some beers if we get these notifications working.

Additionally, there are several android watches already selling and others already on their way to the market. I haven't heard much about an iWatch lately. Whomever writes an iPhone app that shoots messages to android devices and an android app to read and respond to them stands to make a decent bit of money off a paid app.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] raiu:
This should work in the mean time man

http://www.martianwatches.com
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] raiu:
Here is their APK file, i know apks dont work on iphones but this might help somewhere.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
I tryied their iOS app, and reconize the gear when using "find watch" toggle, but no notifications...this mean that there is something in common
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
So what exactly are we having the problem with now with iPhone, no caller id and notifications?

Think this will be hacked to work soon? I am ready to go purchase a gear tomorrow, i'm so excited. I HOPE this works so much!

Any updates!??!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Brendo:
Thanks!

I just went and bought me an obd adapter. Now to wait for it to turn up...

Back on topic, I thought caller id/picture stuff appeared on watch by default? It just uses the same sort of protocols as standard Bluetooth headset (eg what you'd see on screen in car for instance)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Brendo the caller Id on the Gear when connected to the iPhone only show the number. No name, no image. Even if there is a contact on the native null ROM contacts app.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
My man, will that be in null 17?

I got an meal about it but still no download link.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Yeah disregard that email.. prematurely pushed the update.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
fOmey, my man, does null 17 include the PBAP BT profile?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Here a pebble emulator early project. Maybe a solution is to put something like this in an apk and run it on gear, and make it comunicate with iOS pebble app
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Where is that, dude?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Sorry, forgot the link

https://github.com/Helco/PebbleLocalSim
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude i do not think running this on the Gear (after someone ports it to Android) is something feasible. Still i appreciate the fact that you keep researching our options. I am gonna try some apes i extracted from the imwatch FW and let you know what happened. Please pm me your email address so that i can send you the apks as well.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Yes, i know that some ideas are weird, i only put stuff for devs, maybe one or the other could help, or get the right idea.

Pm You my email
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Have installed (dirty) null 17 and still no good news regarding the CallerID on the iPhone.

However, it is still a great new year gift from fOmey!!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Maybe another way is to push contacts in the right place like a galaxy phone will do, and not in stock contacts app. But se need to know what kind Of files e where.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
I think that in the case of Gear & Galaxy combination the contacts are not stored natively on the watch but instead are looked up on the phone via BT every time on opens the contacts app on the watch. Or maybe it is being handled through the Gear manager transparently.

On the imwatch, after pairing it took like 5 minutes to download all contacts of the iPhone to the watch and that was through regular BT profiles, no apps on the phone itself.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Yup its activated..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
Think it's possible to get this fully functional? Been thinking about this all day and want to go pick up the gear now!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Exatly the same that happens when you pair iPhone with a car kit like parrot, the kit download all contacts without running any app on iPhone side.

If I'm watch can do it, for sure the gear could too. I don't want to give away my gear for an imwatch. I really prefere the better screen and the greater possibilities of a complete os.

We need to go deeper
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
Bump guys. I want to know if I should go pick up a gear today, hoping soon there will be full functionality with iPhone. So stoked.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
I am not very optimistic about the project. fOmey has tried a lot and still we have nothing. We are missing smth here. Robh could help but he hasn't got a Gear. I have asked anyone who wants to donate some money so that Robh could buy a Gear to get in touch via pm, but no one replied.

Guys if we really want to have this we need to actually contribute. And if we cannot develop all we can do is provide ideas and beta testing and also maybe some small or bigger donation.

Yes I know it can be done. But our devs are already doing their best. And time is a scarce resource for everyone.

Happy new year to all!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
You do think it's possible though?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
I think it is possible. Of course.

But what matters is who can make it happen.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
We need to find a way to do this. What's the problem though, hard time having Caller id and texts?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
Wait a minute, is it possible to out of box load gear with iPhone? I've been reading about something with gear manager app and it lets it work with iPhone notifications. Is this right?

Is this thread about having the phone working with gear with it rooted or am I confused. If I went to beat buy and purchased a gear, would it work with iPhone 5 right out of box?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
My friend what you can have now is only basic handsfree functionality and caller ID (number only) as well as tether the Gear to the iPhone and use apps (even ones that require internet connection) natively on the watch.

All the above is possible only with null ROM, of course. For more info regarding what can be done with an iPhone and a Gear, please see the original post in this thread.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
I think it's hard to ask people donating without knowing if we'll have a solution.

What we need it's a replica of the gear manager app for iOS. I don't know if it's something possible to do, we need a dev that has skills in both os to analize gear manager apk, and make one similar for iOS.

Btw i'm having fun with my gear. I use everyday Whatsapp on the watch, i have Facebook notifications and i never miss a call (no names on call id, only numbers). And everyday i use a different watch face, htc like, Ferrari background, today Superman logo.

Considering that i've paid it only 140 bucks it's a pretty geek gadget. If i had to Pay 300 bucks maybe i will be a little disappointed.

If you don't want to risk waste of money wait for CES and MWC, and see what are coming out, every company it's entering the smartwatch business
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
Are you currently trying to find out a way to have notifications and address on there?

You have iphone with galaxy gear right now? You said it's fun? You use it for time and talking on the phone? That's all you can do right? I am wondering if I should go buy one, I want it bad but don't know if it will ever work fully with ipjone.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
I'm using with iPhone 4S. Having what i wrote, so whatsapp directly on the watch, Facebook directly on the watch, and also emails. No other notifications. Also using as an headset, so answer and speak to calls directly to the watch
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
So chances are, we will not get full functionality to the watch with iPhone, correct?

I might as well stop thinking and looking all day of my life.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
No, at this moment, not fully. I suggest you to wait newer products, or go for a pebble, or a Kreyos. If you want a color screen the only choice is I'm Watch, but it's not very good quality.

Or go for an'android phone and use the Gear fully.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
I've been keeping my eye on kreyos although not sure I like the design. I've owned a pebble, returned because it was simply useless to me. No phone calls from wrist is no good.

I'm bummed, I want iPhone and gear. I'm hoping gear 2 is universal. What are the chances. And hopefully it's released soon.

I'm watch is bad? I was going to order that too.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Darkshin0b1:
Dude have patience. The devs helping out on this aren't getting paid to do this . Im glad someone is taking a gander into iphone support on an ANDROID forum. Time will tell. I have my iphone 5 and gear with null rom and its fine for me. Be thankful and wait dude or followhe suggested as posted above.

Thanks for supporting the rom with the iphone :good:

PS: Ive been lurking for a while and finally deemed my first post worthy for this reply. ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
What do you use the watch for with no notifications? Can you control music and what else can you do?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Darkshin0b1:
Since my device is jailbroken, I have a few tweaks I'm testing with the bluetooth, nothing significant as notifications but the calls and some apps that use bluetooth work. This really boils down to user preference. I bought the device and find the things( tho limited currently) enough for me to tinker with until more findings are presented. Patience is key when following these types of things projects since the devs have a life outside of coding and have to test new vectors in order to see what is compatible. That being said its either you wait like the rest of us or go get a galaxy phone and get the gear.

Peace
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude, i have started this thread and would really love to have some more functionality on my Gear when connected to my iPhone. Also JB here. What are you testing? Is there anything we are not aware of? If yes please share with us.

Happy new year to all!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Good to see you involved! Tweaks you already tested?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Any news on this one?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
No news is bad news.

I am gonna try out null 18 (just in case the new ML1 base miraculously helps) and wait a little for the BTnotficationenabler cydia tweak to be updated to iOS7.

If nothing works out I am gonna sell the Gear.

The current iPhone functionality is not enough. As I've said before it is little more than a glorified 300 EUR BT hands free (no caller ID).
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
I hear what you're saying Gidi. I was so close to purchasing but I haven't seen any advancement on this so I'm going to wait. I hear CES 14 is this tuesday and has some nice smart watches up for show and release dates. I guess I'll wait until then but I REALLY WISH that iPhone would work with the gear now.

You basically can just answer and call without even a phone book right?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Plus you can use any app that runs natively on the Gear, those that require internet connection included.

But your phone/carrier must support tethering.

So you may use Facebook, Instagram, gmail and google apps in general and many many apps.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Allegory_Esq:
I cant get my gear to pair to my Iphone

I have the most recent Gear updates and I downloaded Null_18 I believe that is the most recent.

I have an Iphone 5s and when I attempt to pair my phone with the Gear my phone is able to find the device fine and then the confirm pops up on my Iphone but all the gear does is vibrate twice and doesnt give me an option to accept pairing.

Anyone know whats going on here?

here is a video of the pairing... (just kidding new users cant post links)

My Gear vibrates when I attempt to pair and my Iphone connects and asks if the number is the same as on the gear, but the gear never gives the option to connect.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Just search the Gear from the iPhone. Not the other way around.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tomlol:
Any news on this? In the market for a smart watch and want this but have iphone 5.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] GP1138:
For now just root and tether to your iPhone. It's not quite as robust as the Gear Watch paired to a Samsung device, but the null_ ROM is great. It works just fine for me, and Samsung has stated an intent to make the Gear compatible with the iPhone. I'd imagine it's only a matter of time before we see a Gear Manager app for iPhone. Either that or some enterprising programmer will find a way to make notifications available from iPhone.