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[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Nah Lux doesn't require root.

Do you use Auto mode on it as it seems to dim for daytime?

Also, I'm assuming you lose the Note 3's maximum brightness using Lux, which can only be achieved when the phone is on max + auto from the Samsung settings when in something like direct sunlight.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
I use auto, but set it to on wake... And you have to mess with it to get the brightness to your liking at different levels, but once you do, it learns your settings is works near flawlessly...

I hate being bi-polar, it's awesome...

*Tweaked*ColonelX*
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rafpigna:
Can you give me a link to rom and kernel you are using?

thanks :good:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
ROM;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2497164

I hate being bi-polar, it's awesome...

*Tweaked*ColonelX*

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KERNEL ;

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2540246

I hate being bi-polar, it's awesome...

*Tweaked*ColonelX*
[Galaxy Note 3 General] spicydicy:
Only my second charge but coming from an N5 this battery has me jumping for joy.

Not rooted or rom'ed. Stock with Google apps disabled, gps disabled but everything else on and syncing hourly. Screen brightness at -3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
So I've been getting improved battery life using Lux to control my screen brightness levels.

I still find issues with Android System causing some drain. It comes on randomly and will cause my battery to quickly lose about 10% battery in an hour or so, and then stop, without resetting the phone or anything.

It can happen really at any time and for absolutely no reason. Even a restart doesn't fix it at times, while at others it does.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
I had the same problem wipe caches using twrp or cmw will fix the problem *only wipe cache nothing else
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
Without being able to install a battery monitoring app to system, such as better battery stats or GSam, it's hard to diagnose. I would try keeping sync and location off unless needed as those fall into Android system and can easily stick on looking for location or trying to sync accounts, especially if your signal at the time is less than perfect

Tweaked - ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Is there a way to root without tripping Knox on 4.4.2?

Would there be any other side-effects of rooting and keeping stock ROM?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
Supposedly, this works... I have no way of confirmation... My knox is tripped.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2790108

TWEAKED & ColonelX

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As far as side effects, none that are bad...

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Thanks,

One thing I've noticed is that when the phone has been in for around 12 hours or more, it no longer sleeps properly and rather gets a lot of wake locks. I've looked at everything but can't seem to put my finger at why. GSAM suggests it's wlan wakelocks when on Wi-Fi and bam_dmux_wakelock when on mobile data. If the phone is on for less than 12 hours they're not an issue.

Only a restart puts it back to normal.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
[MENTION=4011253]ZDeuce2[/MENTION] seems like you have been using alot of roms give me your opinion what do you recommend is the best so far for your and the best kernel for ... I know you did recommended one Rom view pages back.. I'm on X-not v16 with compulsion kernel
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
Those wakelocks are a pain in the ass, I personally have not found an actual remedy for them... Besides the reboot. I have searched for literally years and still have no answers... When I see then I reboot too.

I generally stay on Tweaked rom with ColonelX kernel... Or INFAMOUS rom. I'm on T-Mobile USA though so they may or may not work for you... ALOT of people like Compulsion Kernel too, it is a great kernel, and [MENTION=4454815]jovy23[/MENTION] just released his Darthstalker rom which is an awesome, heavily themed, but very versatile rom. I myself am just more comfortable with my setup, it doesn't mean it's the best, it just works best for me.

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
I have been looking for something unique that suits me X-note is amazing rom but having too much customization makes it even harder to setup your phone *needs a catalog* :D I had no problems with X-note I liked multi Dpi feature the most. Im in vacation right now and I'm finally free :D will flash your Rom/kernel tomorrow and also will compare it with compulsion kernel and see what is the best [emoji106]
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Tell me about it.

How do you generally pick up on the fact that crazy wakelocks have kicked in on your device?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
I do check my battery stats often, so if something is amiss I notice it pretty quick... If things are running right, your screen should be at the of the list, if Android system or OS are close to or over screen, something is keeping them awake...

TWEAKED & ColonelX

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For today so far...

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Man those battery stats are juicy. Your screen doesn't seem to suck much battery. If my screen was on for 2 hrs over an 18hr period, I'd get similar stats to yours, except my battery would be around 60%, not 79-80 like yours.

Have you lowered the screen power output or something via your rooting and rom?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
I use lux as we've discussed before, and in kernel settings I have it set cool... (blueish tint) it cuts down the black smear at low light levels. My setups biggest advantage is I get about an hour of screen per 10% of battery but with the screen off it doesn't move... I lose 1 or 2 % overnight (6-8 hours)

TWEAKED & ColonelX

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At 2:33 for screen now, forgot this pic earlier.

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Cheers. And when you say kernel settings I'm assuming you mean some settings in your custom rom which can't be set on stock roms?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mugenbatteriesOwner:
Really good post! Very helpful and tons of great tips! Thank you very much! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
Yeah... custom kernel controlled by Synapse.

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] cornelito:
Could you please share you Lux Auto Brightness settings ?

Thx in advance
[Galaxy Note 3 General] speedyjay:
I have a stock battery, running S5 rom....I challenge anyone to beat my battery usage lol
[Galaxy Note 3 General] speedyjay:
My battery usage so far.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
You've had a recharge there. You're battery usage is quite poor.

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You've had a recharge there. You're battery usage is quite poor.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
You welcome! :)

Lol. I check my battery stats all the time too, I can't help it really. Btw, Z2's 3200 feels different from Note 3. Samsung updates made battery life worse. Android system using up 20% of battery at times...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
What I find really strange about your battery stats is that even when your screen is on, your phone doesn't show up in "Awake" status for a lot of that time.

I would have thought that if screen is on, then phone is definitely awake?

I'm referring to the Android Summary Battery stats screen which shows "Mobile Network Signal, WIFI, Awake, Screen On, Charging"
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
That crossed my mind too... But oh well! :p

Maybe Samsung's fault, this is from my Xperia Z2.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Thanks for the reply.

Dunno if that's a Samsung thing as I've never ever had that on my stats.

What sort of stats do you get with your X2 these days in terms screen on time over 24 hrs?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
In a day's use, always around 10 to 11 hours screen time. The 3200mAh on the Z2 feels better. I think the Z2's OS is better optimized. Android System and Android OS only consume around 6% battery each. Check my Xperia Z2 battery saving thread for all the stats (http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2768544)

Some screenshots below...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
Well check mine :p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Very impressive.

That screen must have great power consumption. Do you set it to very low brightness?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
One other thing.

Do you have location completely turned off?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
I think AMOLED display is the reason for higher power consumption not battery capacity nor usage only affect it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] klau1:
I bet a lot of the discrepancy between usage and screen time can be accounted for by the number of recharge cycles the battery has gone thru. My battery when new used to be as impressive as the ones shown here with custom roms and kernels, using stock rom.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Don't think so - I was getting 3 hrs screen time after the phone was 2-3 months old.

After playing with my settings, I have been able to get around double that consistently and the phone is now 9 months old.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] alok_dhawal:
Can you throw some light on your settings? I consistently get around 3 hours on screen time. With 3G always on...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] 12gage:
I'm currently on Freeza's Beast mode but I've been hearing alot of people recommending Lean Kernel, which one provides best battery without losing too much performance?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] spicydicy:
I had over 7 hours of screen time yesterday. And over 1 day and 6 hours of time since last charge.

All syncs are on. Screen brightness is 15 percent. Vibrations off. Google now off. Location services off. Mix of WiFi and LTE.

Stock. Non rooted.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yes, As I told someone in Xperia Z2 battery thread yesterday. New batteries usually give impressive time.. After some cycles then u have actual battery :)

Not so much, Just as the post above says... unlike AMOLED displays that the pixels itself is lit (reason why black color saves battery)

The Z2's display has a backlight. I don't know, but maybe makes it more power efficient. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Checked all 6H - 7H - 10H screen time photos! You guys don't even use your phone. As everyone notices there's no app seemed on battery screen (or you're using only 1-2 apps). All the time phone always idle. Staying so empty. It's not a magic to get 1day - 2day (or between) battery life when you don't use your phone or if you didn't install anything after debloating. I see a lot of people who post these. Don't deceive the people...

If you want to show a magic, use your device actively, do multitasking, install your games (always wanted before you bought the device :cool:), don't leave your 3 GB rammed phone empty. And SS after real usage.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] rv0206:
Awesome this really helps a lot. Rooted my note 3 got rid of some apps like Maps its been going really smooth battery used to last about 4 to 5 hours now getting about 8 hours in full use. Thanks again
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
My phone is for real... 334 apps total, 90+ from Google play. I use Tapatalk, Facebook, the phone, Pandora One, Opera browser and various other apps throughout the day. I don't have games on my phone, cause unless I'm testing kernels I don't play them, then it's that damn zombie game. I own an Xbox One for games... I know how to get the most out of my phone... I'm not deceiving anyone, their is no point to it... Lol. I use my phone how I need I need to use it, just because you use yours differently than I do, doesn't mean I am trying to pull something over on anyone... Don't come in here crying foul when you have no clue what you are talking about.

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Yes, Maps is a big culprit. Good to see ur phone works better tho. Cheers! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
Maps isn't the drain, the drain comes from Google location service, (mobile signal and GPS location) if you just turn off location service on you phone the drain stops...

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
You're so nervous calm down a little bit. My comment isn't pointing a personal aim to someone, (I didn't call a member's name either) but I wrote it for who uses their devices empty and they're sharing their useless battery monitors. If you didn't do this why did you quote me ?

Looks like you are believing there are FAKES. Because you just said mine is REAL. Don't come in here crying foul when you have no clue what you are talking about.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Po-ta-to ; Po-tah-to. We saying the same thing... U went into details, I didn't :p

I explained all these in OP :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
I said mine was real, because you post generally stated that

all 6,7, and10 hour screen times are fake... I'm not nervous, you need to possibly gain a better grasp of the English language before insulting people, cause it really makes no sense...

I'm not arguing, was just saying, removing maps will stop the drain of Google maps only, but the easier alternative is to turn off location service unless you need it and it stop sending all location information to Google. Now if for some reason maps is hanging open, or running in background, by all means freeze it, or remove it if you don't use it. I personally nearly all Google Apps as most are horrible for battery life.

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
Ok, my bad.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
Sorry, that was rude of me, I've been running on no sleep or patience for near a month now... 15 month old insomniac...

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zool84:
Hi all

I rooted and installed a custom rom 2 days ago, everything is working fine but i have android system drain, how can i get rid of it. Thx

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
Clean cache from recovery reboot your device you should be okay after that... if the problem not solved install * battery stats* app and see which app is draining your battery
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zool84:
I will give a try, bbs tells me com.android.systemui

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mo123456789:
Phone has been awake for approx 21 hours. BBS tells me that most of it is due to APMAudio and APMOutput. They have kept my phone awake for almost 17 hours!

Also it seems that even though I've disabled NFC and frozen the NFC related services I'm TiBa it's still showing up in my battery consumption.

Any help?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ZDeuce2:
I can't find anything on APMaudio... Does it do this a lot? Have you try a reboot after a full charge?

TWEAKED & ColonelX
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
Don't you worry about it man it's a NF4 firmware sucks, i had the same problem but cleaning cache and reboot solves my problem..
[Galaxy Note 3 General] zool84:
Thx again my friend, i don't have systemui drain anymore after cleaning cache

Sent from my SM-N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nuoitiec19:
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Show my battery.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
Anytime mate ?

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You just showed your battery pictures. At least give us some details Rom / kernel/ battery looks like zero lemon.

That's show off ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] msasm09:
Did you enable adapt sound
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nuoitiec19:
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Sent from my SM-G900W8
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Hassan Askari Suzuki:
Use Greenify to stop the useless apps running in background.

My battery time increased by 5 hours with data/WiFi on
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tj_cute:
how to clear cache? is this from recovery or cache from the app?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MuhammadZeeshan7:
Battery on MK2

I have MK2 4.3 firmware at the moment and facing issues with battery life. I get MAX 4.5 hours screen on time, haven't crossed it yet!

Will updating to Stock KK 4.4 solve this issue ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
Charge your phone to full 100% then Boot into recovery CMW or TWRP clean cache reboot that's it.. don't clean cache and dalvik just cache. . Cheers
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZroe:
My phone was at something like 91% when I went to see a movie Sunday. I put it on Airplane Mode and my phone suddenly started draining really fast. I didn't know until after the movie when I got a low battery alert after turning Airplane Mode off. Looking at the power level history, it is clear that it was dropping like a rock despite being asleep in my pocket. It was already dropping before I enabled Airplane Mode and continued draining throughout and even after turning Airplane Mode off. I thought it was a one-time glitch but it happened again today.

Today, I put my phone on Airplane Mode and left it in my locker for 5 hours. I took it out and forgot to take Airplane Mode off (I was in a hurry to get somewhere on my lunch break) and I got the low battery alert (15%) about five minutes later.

What the heck is going on?!

This is all very familiar to me because my Sony Xperia Play 4G R800at would do something like this seemingly randomly but always when I was at home on the AT&T/Cisco microcell. It would only do it a few times a month but it was enough that I could never rely on the alarm as a 100% battery would still be dead by morning.

This is an unlocked T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note 3 N900T being used on AT&T. It was not near the microcell when this happened and it wouldn't matter if it were (Airplane Mode). The history says "Android System" used 45% of my CPU time.

I have two batteries and rotate them every few months. This one is strong and not worn out (only a few months use total, if even that).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
1.Q. is your phone Rooted?

You need to install BBS (better battery stats app) so we can figure it out..

2Q. Do you have custom recovery like CMW or TWRP

If you have one those recovery reboot into recovery try only to clean cache and reboot use it normally if your phone still draining battery fast just install BBS app and charge your phone to 100% let drain till 15% open BBS press other go to kernel wakelocks and take a screen shot.. cheers
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZroe:
Stock 4.3JB rooted with Root De La Vega (Knox 0x0). No custom recovery. I'll try this. Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] galaningenieros:
be aware if you install custom recovery, you will trip your knox
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tj_cute:
thanks for the tip. I already did it but in default recovery since my phone is not rooted yet. Still no luck. I just wipe everything and start from the scratch. Surprisingly, my battery won't drain fast unlike before. Thanks again.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] CZroe:
Is there a free version? Only one I see on Play Store charges and I wonder if it's a knock-off.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fishawy:
Here.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mugenbatteriesOwner:
Great post OP! Thanks for the helpful hints!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Actually, the app is Free, more or less, he gives it out for free on xda but if you wan to donate to him, then go on Play Store and buy the app. Dats wat I did. It's about Support mates. :)

Of course mate, Cheers!

I'm even here to read it. :p There is so much content on here, I have even forgotten them myself. :p

I just got a Galaxy S4. Snapdragon version. And it's draining too much battery. Time to read the OP. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
I wish if a can go back JB everything was nice and smooth over there even battery was great.. best of luck dude

Just factory reset but Why don't you try BBS before wiping your data give it a try... I'm pretty sure it's a silly app causing this
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tj_cute:
i think BBS is for root users, right? my phone is not rooted yet.

I just notice for a couple of days, my problem still persist. Battery draining issue is still here.:(:(:(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Someguyfromhell:
Can be used without root as well.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] tj_cute:
yeah, but limited.

i already installed it. what's next?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lampz:
id go for this

4. Greenify: EVERY rooted user must have Greenify! It's a fantastic app! It hibernates apps that you are not using so they never get to use your battery, yet the apps are available whenever you need them. No stress!

Download Greenify here - https://play.google.com/store/apps/d...sfeng.greenify (I bought the paid version as it has more fuctions)

For those who don't know greenify or how to use it, it's simple! Only Greenify those apps you don't rely on for Push Notifications.

For example, don't greenify apps like WhatsApp, Facebook, Viber, Twitter, BBM if you expect to get notifications from them in the background.

Feel free to Greenify other apps like your games, adobe reader, dictionary, and the rest of them as you don't receive notifications from.

Starting from Greenify v2.0, even None Rooted users will be able to use Greenify Just without the option of Automatic hibernate, however.. It's still Great!

TIP: If you are a Non-Root Greenify user, I will highly recommend that you put the 'Hibernate Now' widget on ur homescreen so that you have one-touch hibernation. Just tap it before you lock ur screen or at anytime really. I'm a Rooted user and I made it a habit already! Tap then lock screen

Greenify is a FANTASTIC app!

=)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Android is such a crazy OS when it comes to battery life.

Now I consistently get great battery life on Wifi, however, at times when I'm out, and turn off Wifi with Mobile Data on, the phone drops a percent every 10-20 minutes when the screen is off for no apparent reason whether location is turned off or on.

Only a restart fixes it, but that's if you realise it's happening.

Whatever Android device I've used since Gingerbread, the same random battery drain BS always returns, whether under "Android OS" or "Android System" or anything else.

It's really quite frustrating and takes away completely from the experience.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Amar.B:
Sorry man for the late reply yeah the app is almost useless without Root Google made a permission changes that's why.. don't know you should factory reset but you will loose all your apps and data... there is only one solution for you there is safe Root without tripping your Knox in Note 3 general thread go for it
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Actually, the problem is from Samsung. I did a research to see what Android OS consumes the most battery. The Best is HTC's Sense and Worst is Samsung's Touchwiz. See some screenshots below.

HTC One M8. Android OS - 4%

Xperia Z2. Android OS - 5%

Nexus 5. Android OS - 5%

Moto G. Android OS - 6%

Note 3. Android OS - 19%, Android System - 13%

Samsung really needs to sit up and fix their software, or at least optimize it. Cheers! :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
It's not simply about battery stats, as percentages could be incorrect, it's about battery life and how quickly your battery drops in standby.

I have found whatever device I use, from HTC, to Stamsung to Nexus, I get the same random battery drain for no apparent reason where the phone would not be used for a couple of hours, and the battery would no drop, yet on another day, same situation, it drops by 10%.

It drives one insane!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fishawy:
Losing 49% in 6 hours, doing almost nothing but standby in most of the time .. Can someone please tell me why "Android System" eats my battery (30%)?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
When's the last time you restarted your phone?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] funkybone:
Battery Life

My battery lasts 1 day and 10hours, is it good enough for a stock NOTE 3?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] lbreak:
Depends on your usage.

How much screen on time do you get with that?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fishawy:
In 12 hours I guess?