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[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Impromark:
Granted, but I live in Canada - and the more colorful ones are not yet available on Amazon.ca. Hopefully that'll change soon... Cheaper for the same product is always an advantage, but I like the red one with the black border that IVSO is putting out. Hopefully that version will be available up here or through eBay before long.

Mark
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] hondagal:
Confirmed! My IVSO cover activates the sleep function on my GPE. :good:
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] snaketooth2007:
so there is a sensor instead just the rom to have the sleep/wake function
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] spillner:
colored cases in stock

Will be getting the red one on thursday. Colored cases are now in stock.

VSTN®LG G Pad 8.3 Ultra-Thin Multi-angle Stand Slim Smart Cover Case (For LG G Pad 8.3, Red)
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] RobilarOCN:
Anyone wants a free black one let me know, it's going in the garbage otherwise.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] madscout:
I don't mind to have that :)
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Impromark:
Or me if it's not too late! I'm in Canada too. ;)

MArk
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] nbdriver:
Hello thank you for this great review, i just received this case from Amazon, but I'm stuck at using the auto wake / sleep function. It's not working at all, I checked the switch in settings menu but nothing happens when I close the case. I'm rooted on stock rom but it doesn't work on cyanogen neither.

Can somebody help me? Thanks.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] ASW1:
What happens if you take the tablet out of the case and hold the

hinge-side

of the flap of the case on the left side of the screen of the tablet?

Try to do this holding the flap upside down, mirrored, and upside down + mirrored.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] NJ_RAMS_FAN:
My just came in a full week late! I'm going to request some sort of credit and order a different color. :) anybody have the red one?
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] nbdriver:
anageden Earl

Thanks for the answer, with the tablet out of the case touching the left side of the screen with the flap works. Is there a solution to make it work with the tablet in the case? I see many people saying that it works flawlessly with this case.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] gottahavit:
Im guessin you got a weak magnet. Does the flap lie flat? Mine actually shuts off the screen about 1/4 in above the screen.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] ASW1:
I would contact the seller, explain the problem and claim warranty.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] micflair:
Does it work like this on cm11 ROM or is it stock mate?
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] snaketooth2007:
it only works on stock 4.2 or 4.4.2 gpe version
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] snaketooth2007:
it should work flawlessly with the case if it doesn't you should contact the seller because it should be amazon fullfied
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] woody1:
How long does shipping usually take for the IVSO case from Gambolex? Is it shipped by USPS or somebody else? I want to order one, but I need it to arrive before I go out of town later in the month.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] snaketooth2007:
if you order from vostrones the color one 17-28 days and for gambolex should be the same but if you order the black one for both should be a week
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] whoamigriffiths:
To the UK my black case took about a week, to ten days.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] woody1:
I see that on Amazon, but I'm trying to find out what the actual delivery time has been for people in the US. I also want to know which carrier they use, so I can figure out what will happen if it's delivered while I'm traveling away from home.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Mindspin_311:
I bought the IVSO off Amazon US yesterday evening. With Prime, it should arrive on Monday. I ordered Black via Gambolex.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] brewer15650:
Folded up in and setting in landscape it looks like the cover covers the speakers. Does it effect speaker output at all in that position?
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Impromark:
That was my big question about this style of case too, and the answer is apparently no. The way you roll the cover up and lock it with the magnet, it leaves a gap between the cover and the back of the tablet where the speakers are. Some other posters have confirmed that it's okay.

Once I confirmed the sound was okay, I decided this is the one for me. Just waiting for the color I want (red with a black border!) to become available in Canada, and I'm ordering it.

Mark
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] CuraeL:
Here is an "okay" hi-res gallery with details on the IVSO flipcase on my LG G Pad. You can see the body is a tight fit, and my case does not overlap or feel too long in any way.

http://imgur.com/a/CXMzY

- The first image is a bit watery, didn't wait for the drops to dry in from the cloth, sorry about that. And I don't have a steady hand, so.. Forgive some of the shakiness.

I really like this case. Seems legit. Adds a bit of weight and bulk tho. But.. I guess that's needed since the LG Pad to me doesn't feel "that" sturdy in itself.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Impromark:
FYI for Canadians, Asuxtek will be stocking the colorful versions of this case on Amazon.ca by the end of February according to an email inquiry I sent to them. Rob may have had a poor experience with this case, but I'm hoping it's a QC issue and future / current batches are going to be better.

Has anyone received a colored version of the IVSO case?

Mark
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] gunnyman:
I just got this case and I'm quite pleased. It's comparable to the poetic slimline I have on my Nexus 7.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] quadnad:
ivso g pad scratching

I bought this case and while it performs it's function OK, the silver badge has me incredibly paranoid about scratching the screen. I see reports of the same case with the dell venue scratching the screen. Can anyone offer any comfort over the scratching not occurring, or must I now search for another case?
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] ASW1:
If I were as paranoid as you I'd just remove the metal clasp. it should come off quite easily.

For transport just put an elastic band around it.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] gottahavit:
Do you have a screen protector? I love the case, but would not use without screen protector. Also I would not use without the magnet clasp.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] quadnad:
To be fair, I don't think it's too far fetched to see this scratching the screen A. because there are multiple reports of the case doing so and B. because you can plainly see the metal latch sitting on the screen, with the cover able to easily slide back and forth.

I'll need to work out a way to remove the metal clasp. Perhaps it'll come off with a knife, I'm not sure if there was adhesive used. It just seems stunning to me that the manufacturer thought it would be a great idea to have metal edges in contact with the screen...of an obnoxiously ugly badge no less!

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Looks like all I needed was a knife! Took twenty seconds. Much better. I'm still stunned the case was sold with the metal clasp, but the issue is now moot.

EDIT: note that if you do this, you can no longer use the case to stand the tablet upright - the gentle angle works fine, just not upright.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Impromark:
And how does it look now? Does it look like an annoying bit of metal has been pried off, or would it be passable without?

And I thought he metal bit was used for the stand mode, no? Or is it other magnets that handle that?

Mark
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] quadnad:
It looks 100% fine, only if you really look for it can you see the impression of the metal on the cover. No discoloration or any tearing of the fabric/material.

The metal is however definitely involved in the standing modes - it doesn't effect the gentle angle (one you might use on a desk while sitting) but it breaks the vertical mode entirely. I'm not totally heartbroken, as it saves me trying one of the other (probably even worse) cases out there for the G Pad, but I imagine that could be a deal-breaker for some.

I would say though for people considering this case to beware of that clasp..
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Canadoc:
Why not just apply a strip of black electrical tape to

cover the inner magnet. This way you would have the magnetic feature still in place and the tape what act like a screen protector and prevent the metal from scratching the glass.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] quadnad:
You absolutely could, though I might suggest some felt or something else that might look a little less ghetto-fab ;)

I wanted to be rid of the badge entirely, and I'm happy with the result. Obviously this means you lose the upright stand ability, which many (most?) might be uncomfortable losing. I won't derail this thread any further, but I do think it's worth someone pointing out that this badge could potentially scratch your device.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] woody1:
That's what I was wondering, but since I don't have the case, I didn't know if a piece of tape would work. That sounds to me like the best solution. Maybe a bit of hot glue would work, as well, with less chance that it would come off.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] RobilarOCN:
I tried a black piece of electrical tape. Looks like it will work. the magnet still catches fine. I assume with wear the tape would eventually peel off but it is a fairly unobtrusive ghetto mod.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Impromark:
Incidentally, Sikai has started selling this one too now. Same colour scheme as the generic ones. Still waiting for the Red/Black one to become available in Canada...
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] rockbigdave:
Until the mythical Quickcase comes out, I can't see a better fitted smart case coming around for the G Pad. Only downside is that because of the way the cover rolls up, the sound becomes quite muffled when standing or elevated. The Quickcase however looks to avoid that problem however with it's 2 piece design and more space for the speakers to breathe. :)

Anyone else found that rolling the cover up in on itself (so the outside colour is visible on all three sides) holds better than doing it how you would expect to normally? Or is that just me?
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] RandomChance:
Thanks for the vid, I have one of these on the way right now. Looks better than the one I currently have.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Victoria75001:
Just tried it, and you're right, the magnet seems to attach quite a bit more firmly that way. With the inside of the cover showing when folded, I could only get it to stand on a hard, flat surface.....your way, I've just been able to stand it up on my bed. Thanks for the tip!

The Quick Cover is out in the UK, btw, from Expansys (only pink in stock, but they had the black before Christmas and it's due in again soon), but at £60 I'll be sticking to the IVSO!
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] rockbigdave:
Glad I could be of help. :D

Yeah, for that price I'll also stick with the IVSO for a while! I've seen some images of the packaging on Google on a Chinese website reviewing it. It looks like the gap the two-part cover gives wont muffle the speakers as much. I only say mythical as it's basically non existent, even to LG's online chat support.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] faofly:
Thanks.

it was just what I was looking for
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] NJ_RAMS_FAN:
Scratch from case?

I like to keep my stuff as perfect as possible but this sucks. lol.. Scratch by the camera and I have a feeling it was the case. If you take the case off, by the camera hole where the two materials meet, it is not flush. I believe this cause the scratch. sucks. but oh well.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] cmscritic:
Funny. I ordered the asuxtek and received an IVSO (name is on the magnet. Excellent case though. Love it.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] cmscritic:
One thing I've discovered with this case that's annoying is if you have the front flap against the back of the case. sometimes the magnet activates the sleep function and the screen shuts off. Pretty annoying and happens alot.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] ASW1:
Try fold it the other way around.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Victoria75001:
Might be worth exchanging it - I've seen a few people with the same issue, but most of these cases seem to be fine, mine included, so seems more like a quality control issue than a design fault. Chances are you'd get lucky on the second one.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] daveleebond:
anyone have the white one with a black g pad?
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] llcool988:
Can anyone explain how this so called "smart cover" screen on/off feature or auto sleep/wake feature work when the flap is open/close? Does it have a special circuitry inside the case? Does it use some sort of magnetic field from the cover and magnetic sleep sensor on the tablet (I couldn't find any technical information on this)? Does it use the ambient light sensor of the G pad (if so what is so smart about the cover)? I couldn't find any answer to this.

sorry I found some info... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2599285&page=2
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] gottahavit:
It's just a magnet. placing any reasonably powerful magnet about 2/3 the way down the edge will cause the on/off feature to work.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] rfarrah:
IVSO from Gambolex arrived yesterday. Anyone else having trouble keeping the tab in the case. Can't seem to get a good snug fit.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] gottahavit:
No problems here. Does not snap in hard, but never had it come out on its own
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Tomen8r:
Received mine a couple hours ago. Poetic doesn't make one for thirty tablet yet so I settled for this case. Doable.. decent sub for poetic.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] rfarrah:
My IVSO is going back. Tablet slipped out of the case while standing up and almost went all the way to the floor.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] Impromark:
Sorry, wrong thread. :)
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] chelper:
I received one of these cases today. Within a few minutes I have already setup a return. The left side of the G pad does not snap into the hard portion of the case. I am pretty sure it will wind up slipping out onto the floor. I like the feel of it, but I will not risk a broken device.
[G Pad 8.3 Accessories] bradavon:
Can someone tell me the difference between the ELTD PU Leather Cover Case III and the ELTD Slim-Book PU Leather Cover Case please? Both shown here:

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00G5Z90ZA

Is one lighter than the other? I think the ELTD and ISVO cases are in fact the same case.

I'm tempted to get the VOIA Single Stage Case due to being much lighter (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/171257626750) but that's twice the price.

Thanks
[Moto X Q&A] themogul:
Hi,

Currently with Big Red but will switch to "someone" once contract is up 3rd qtr next year. Most probably because of the the price and I am sick of VZ dropping back to 3G most of the time where I am.

If I get a Verizon Moto X can I later use that on TMobile. And/rather, a Verizon Moto X can be used on which carriers - all or none :confused:

much appreciated.
[Moto X Q&A] supr2nr:
If it's a developer edition then "I believe" you could use it on sprint. T-Mobile is a GSM carrier and since the only option on the CDMA phones is for global GSM for international travel that you will likely not get it to work. They don't have the radios in it to work on T-mobile. Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
[Moto X Q&A] mawells787:
This has been covered before yes it will. Verizon moto x is ( might be wrong) the only phone that is Sim unlocked besides T-Mobile and gsm developer edition. Tmobile Sim should work just fine.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2442735
[Moto X Q&A] folsom68:
I put a prepaid T-Mobile sim into my Dev Verizon Moto X, and I get good LTE speeds.
[Moto X Q&A] nethead25:
Just seconding that I put a T-Mobile SIM in to my VZW dev edition Moto X (4.4), and it was SIM unlocked as expected, but also had good LTE signal, indicating that Band 4 is definitely enabled on these phones, contrary to published specs. Good news!
[Moto X Q&A] scottjb:
Can you make phone calls and send text messages with a T-Mo SIM in a VZW phone? Seems as if a CDMA phone would not work on a GSM network for calls and texts.
[Moto X Q&A] SupaSwag:
Yes. I haven't done it with the Moto X yet, but I did it without issue previously with both the Verizon S4 and LG G2. It's part of an FCC agreement when Verizon got LTE. It's basically GSM unlocked. Data, text, and calls work.

Sent from my XT1060
[Moto X Q&A] wolfedude88:
Most Verizon LTE phones have a GSM radio and work on AT&T and Tmobile
[Moto X Q&A] folsom68:
I made a call to verify it works, and I received text messages from T-Mobile.

I also didn't have to add APNs, it seemed to figure them out.
[Moto X Q&A] Kittiesoncrack:
Sprint won't work. Cause most of the CDMA bands and LTE bands are different.

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But I'm pretty sure T-Mobile will cause it is Sim unlocked
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
Yes, you are wrong. It does work with either a "retail" Verizon phone, or developer edition.

The big misconception is that since Verizon uses CDMA for voice and sms, that their phones only work on CDMA. This is NOT True.

Because Verizon's 4G LTE phones are "global" they support the same GSM/GPRS/Edge bands as ATT and T-Mobile for voice and data so they can be used globally on GSM carrier networks. Another little plus is that due to the FCC rules around their 700Mhz spectrum, they are SIM unlocked, so they happen to work with ATT and T-Mobile sim inserted. Since ATT uses the same bands for HSPA and HSPA+ as they do for EDGE, you can get HSPA speeds. In areas where T-Mobile's "network modernization" has refarmed their 1900Mhz edge to HSPA, you'll get HSPA speeds. In Tmobile areas that HSPA is still over AWS, you'll fall back to Edge when trying Verizon branded devices.

Using both developer and "retail" variants of the Verizon Moto X, I have inserted my T-Mobile SIM and had it work after setting the phones to "global". I've done the same with my iPhone 5, iPhone 5S, Blackberry Z10, Q10, Nokia Lumia 928, and Samsung Galaxy S4 and Note 3. Some of the phones, like the Z10 and 928 only gave me EDGE speeds the last time I tried them. The X and S4 have given me HSPA. T-Mobile recently rolled out LTE here, as putting the T-Mo Sim in my VZW iPhne 5S last week gave me T-Mo LTE for the first time. When i get time I'll have to go back and test my other devices again to see what they do.

With recent firmware updates on my X, note 3 and Galaxy S4, I have had to manually enter T-Mobile APN settings to get them to work.

Yes it does work as long as the APN settings come down automatically to your phone, or you manually enter the correct APN settings.

On a side note... some have asked if you can do the same with a Sprint phone (since they are cdma based too). The answer is..I don't know for sure, but it really depends. I haven't looked into the sprint phones to know their "global roaming" capabilities, and what radios and frequencies their devices support. I guess as long as their phones support the quad band GSM frequencies and are (or can be) SIM Unlocked, then you can do the same with Sprint phones to get at least Edge speeds. HSPA and LTE would again depend on the frequencies the sprint phones support, and the target carrier network uses.
[Moto X Q&A] themogul:
Thank you everybody!!!

This is excellent info and more importantly very good details. I am very grateful...

Time to the Moto X with orange accents now :D
[Moto X Q&A] nethead25:
I have the same issues as SOMFW. Disabling LTE resolves all these problems, so it seems like it's an issue with the LTE-to-2G/3G fallback for phone calls.

When I force it into HSPA+, I have both simultaneous voice and data and no dialing issues.
[Moto X Q&A] SOMFW:
How did you disable 4G? or Force it into HSPA+? Is there a setting I am missing?

Somebody else mentioned Manually adding T-Mobile APN is this something you did?

On My Moto,x when using the Vz SIM there is an APN labeled Verizon that appears on its own, On the TM SIM it was blank

Also, while on the TM SIM under About Phone / Status My phone number doesn't show, On the Vz SIM it is there and the Dialer works fine. But I still get the Dialer Bug, which is, When I click the Keypad icon the bottom area goes blank and I have to hit the back button and repeat it. This only happens if I swipe the dialer out of running apps list, Force close it or haven't used it for several hours.

Any Ideas?
[Moto X Q&A] nethead25:
These are the steps I used to turn off LTE and enable HSPA:

1) Download/install the app LTE OnOff

2) Change Mobile Network type in Settings to LTE / GSM / UMTS

3) On LTE OnOff, hit the Three-Dot menu in the top right, and select "Select radio band"

4) Select USA Band

5) Hit the Turn Off Radio button

6) Select GSM auto (PRL) under Preferred Network Type

7) Turn On Radio

The phone should show no data for a second, then 3G, then eventually an H for HSPA will be displayed.

You can also try GSM only or WCDMA preferred if GSM auto doesn't work.

Still trying to figure out how to get LTE to play nice with it.
[Moto X Q&A] Gtech145:
There is a known LTE bug that causes this issue in 4.4. Check aracanexvi's thread in the Droid Ultra section. Basically we will need to leave LTE off of you want to make calls reliably.

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Would be easier if I just shared the thread

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2591954

4.4 and Non-VZW carriers
[Moto X Q&A] sicmadek:
Which one are people having better luck with, at or T-Mobile?
[Moto X Q&A] SupremerosesXO:
can you put a T-Mobile ROM for it to work as well?
[Moto X Q&A] mailxd:
Using Verizon Moto X (locked Verizon retail) on ATT should be as good as using it on Tmobile, assuming I don't need LTE ?

Thanks.
[Moto X Q&A] Coderedpl:
Running eclipse rom on my Dev Edition Moto X. Popped in the the TMobile sim card, and results were as follows::

Changed Mobile network settings - Change network mode to LTE/GSM/UMTS

Mobile network settings - Select network UMTS Only

It was showing H and I was able to browse the web, send sms/mms. I made a test phone call and while it did go through, there was no dialer to be seen, so i couldn't essentially hang up on the call, but if the other end picked up the phone it would show up in notification area and i would be able to see it then. A few restarts and test phone calls, and the dialer showed normally multiple times in a row? Not sure what thats about.

Also was able to browse the web while on the phone.

WiFi off for all of the above.

My house doesn't have the best coverage so can't comment on what speeds were and if LTE would of shown like it should have.

Next time i have the chance Ill try it out in a better coverage area.
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
If you are looking for HSPA/HSPA+ speeds, the Verizon X supports all those bands and is sim unlocked, so will accept ATT SIM. The only question is APN settings, do you have to set them manually or not.

In other words when it comes to non-LTE, (so HSPA/HSPA+, Edge, GPRS, GSM) the VZW X should do better on ATT as it supports all the non-LTE bands ATT currently uses.
[Moto X Q&A] Coderedpl:
With my recent switch to +T-Mobile, For some reason I thought using the Verizon Moto X dev edition on T-Mobile will be much less of a hassle.

Seems like I'm basically limited to using HSPA since SMS/MMS do not work when LTE is enabled and calls act up.

Makes the switch semi-pointless.

Disappointing =( might have to sell the Moto X's and exchange the phones I got from tmo for Nexus 5's
[Moto X Q&A] syathibiy:
Can you confirm that DE(Verizon) will work globally; say, Singapore? And is it sim unlocked by default? Meaning, there's no need to buy an unlock code whatsoever. Is that it? I'm planning to get one from the US and use it in Singapore
[Moto X Q&A] tgerbracht:
Won't there by an ota update that fixes this? Problem is, won't this be a tmobile ota, making it moot for Verizon ppl moving over?
[Moto X Q&A] KidJoe:
The VZW X is "quad band GSM" for global roaming. It is SIM Unlocked due to FCC rules around the 700mhz spectrum auction that Verizon won.

I only have access to USA Carrier SIMs, and I'm not traveling outside the USA, so I can't say anything other than "it should/could work"