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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] .tieu:
Been busy with a few things. I got side tracked with an idea how to forward ALL notifications from the iPhone to the watch. It's looking good! I might scrap the current app I made that allows you to read/send text messages through the Remote Messages tweak.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude, if you manage to work it out, you will be writing (uhm coding, that is) history. Please keep us up to date because we may have to start looking for a used Gear 1 to buy...

Also, try to post something about the iPhone side hardware. Of course it will have to be jailbroken. Does it need to have BLE also? Only iPhone > 4s works or all iPhones?

Dude i know you are a coder, but i suggest you see it from a marketing perspective angle as well.

Give some hints so that to keep the interest high (that only applies to other people, i am already refreshing this thread every hour or smth...).
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fenx2002:
Hi

i'm also refreshing this thread because i'm so interested in your work !

Please keep us aware of your progress because i dream to use my iPhone and the gear together with the notification

Bye
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] .tieu:
So far how it's set up is I have GrowlNotifier installed on my jailbroken iPhone 5. The tweak forwards all notifications to a server. I'm working on an android app now that reads the notifications from the server and displays it on the watch.

So far I've tested the message app, and Skype and they work fine. But it seems either the tweak or the server has a bug that doesn't allow it to decode notifications from BBM and WhatsApp (maybe more out there).

I'm trying to pin down what is the cause of this.

Edit: This idea is similar to what Accounti suggested to me.

Also I got all notifications working again :silly: was a problem with registering caused by the tweak.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
.tieu my man keep up the good work!

Some quick questions:

1) How are the Gear (Growl client?) and the JB iPhone (Growl server?) connected? From what i've read it is an IP connection, so no direct BT. Is that correct? If so, it should work on all JB iPhones regardles of BLE support. Please confirm.

EDIT: What mainly concerns me is, does the traffic have to go through the internet? If so, does the Gear need to be tethered to the iPhone by means of NULL ROM?

2) Everything that is considered by iOS as a notification is picked up by Growl from what i understand. However, when you receive the notification in the client app, is it just text that you can handle? Or maybe an iMessage with a photo would show up as well?

3) Is communication between the iPhone and the Gear 1-way or the Gear could send smth back to the iPhone as well?

4) I know, i should not be asking this and i do not at all want to make you feel pressure, but do you have a rough estimate of when your solution will be ready to distribute?

5) Are there any privacy concerns? I mean, do all notifications go to a Growl server somewhere in the cloud or are the iPhone and the Gear talking directly?

Thank you very much for your efforts!

P.S. I would suggest setting up a donation paypal account for people who may be interested in contributing some beers. :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fenx2002:
Yes i'm in !

First round for me

I can't wait for your solution
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] .tieu:
1) The gear needs NULL ROM to access the internet to retrieve the notifications from an external source. Unfortunately this means you must always have wifi/data tethering on for this to work. It doesn't seem possible at the moment to push growl notifications to the gear directly because of my lack of jailbreak tweaks.

2) For the client app it can only handle text like a normal growl client. Being able to read iMessage photos and reply to messages etc could be added in the future but it might take a while before I try that.

3) For now the communication is 1 way. iPhone -> Server(external) -> Gear

4) I'm not sure when it'll be done. Maybe within the next few weeks

5) It is possible for a privacy leak to occur because the notifications are on the internet but I'm planning to add encryption to the text and a password before accessing the notifications. The notifications are deleted after they get read once, so as long as you have the gear retrieving them there shouldn't be anything to worry about.

tl;dr

Need tethering to be on all the time for this to work. Notifications to be encrypted and deleted on retrieval by the gear.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
1) Dude do you think we could approach a cydia coder for this? Can you get a little technical so that we can understand what exactly you are missing here? From personal experience, let me tell you that the Gear when tethered 24/7 drains it's battery pretty fast (not that bad though). The indirect (cloud) connection is not the best option, but if it is the only one we can have i will gladly take that!

3) This means that notifications seen on the Gear and dismissed are not actually dismissed on the iPhone. Right?

4) Take your time, brother! BTW where are you from?

Thank you very much for your time and effort!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] .tieu:
Unfortunately I don't know any coders that make tweaks for iOS to talk to. I've asked around regarding any other alternative to tethering 24/7 and it seems to be the only solution I can implement. Also yes with the growlnotifer tweak whatever notifications are pushed are not dismissed on the iPhone.

I'm a student from Canada so university is my #1 priority at the moment. :(
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
I may try to get in touch with some coders and will let you know.

I've got family in Toronto. Of course uni should be your priority!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fenx2002:
Get your exam That's important and then if u have time think about the gear!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Ok this is what i have done so far.

Like i advised tieu i am using an external service that receives notifications and send them. Basically for the moment it receives any notifications that uses Banners on the iPhone.

It is a tweak that you install on the iphone and an app on the Gear.

here are some pics that shows that notifications works(you can see that notifications on the Gear matches the iphone).

I still have some little things to fix but the bigger part is done i think. If you want i can try to publish the tweak as it is now (you can see the ?? on the gmail notifications i have to fix it)

http://hpics.li/420e443

http://hpics.li/9158ba7
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Accounti my man are you working in parallel with

.tieu? Are you developing smth as well? On the Gear side? I currently do not own a Gear but I am looking for a good price for second hand. Your approach is also internet based, right? If you feel it is in beta, I think you should release it.

Eagerly waiting my man!!! Keep up the good work!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] DrNicket:
I'll Help Where I Can

Keep it up Accounti!

In addition to my Gear that has Null and all the main-level root/tweaks/etc, I have a jailbroken iPhone 4 (not active on 3G), and an iPhone 5S (active on LTE).

I'd be happy to help with any testing should you need it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] .tieu:
Looks good Acounti, I can't wait to see a release.

I've made progress also but I'm wondering how I can release this easier so everyone doesn't have to setup a server.

[YOUTUBE]RecRG-oHkOw[/YOUTUBE]

In the end product clicking on the notifications will lead to the app and display more details. Currently figuring out how to pass app icon images to the gear using GNTP protocol.

Also if anyone can suggest a cheap/reliable VPS service that'd be awesome.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Thanks guys I'm trying to build something good. It remains on internet also. My first approach was to find some kind of local network via Bluetooth. But I was not able to find something nor help on this

I'm thinking about putting a price on the tweak to rentabilize my developing time. Everything else would be free. I'm thinking about 1,99 or 2,99.

What do you guys think ?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Okay guys, i see we definetely have some progress here! This is very good! Thank you!

It is my understanding that both of you are working on an IP based approach.

May i suggest that you two cooperate? (Just thinking aloud here.)

It would be much better if you could somehow create a BT local network, but i guess it will have to do.

Regarding the pricing scheme, i say that definetely you should be askinf for smth up to 5 USD (depending on the provided functionality).

Personally i would easily pay 10 USD (maybe more) if someone could make it work via BT.

Keep up the good work gentlemen!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] leiski:
iPhone Tethering problem

Hi Guys,

Thanks so much for the fantastic work people are doing here. I've recently routed my Gear and have hit a problem which I thought you might be able to help with. I cannot get my iPhone 5S to properly tether to my Gear. I can select it and enable Internet Access under paired on the bluetooth connection, my phone shows the tether icon and says 'Personal Hotspot: 1 Connection'. All looks good except no actual data.

Interestingly when I tethered to my brother's Xperia, all was fine and data was flowing. I've also tried tethering to my wife's 5C and I have the same issue - no data. Any thoughts?!

Leigh
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fenx2002:
Hi

it looks very good !

i'm ok to pay 3 to 5 dollars but not more i think

Hope you can continue on your work guys

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[Samsung Galaxy Gear] vetvito:
Just got my gear, 80% sure we can get the I'm Watch services to work (I can't get it to install) to view notifications over bluetooth.

I have to go to work now.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude welcome aboard!

I have tried installing some of the I'm Watch APKs successfully but they did not actually work.

Hope you can do it!

If you read some pages back on this thread you might find some more info.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] vetvito:
First problem I noticed. Bluetooth isn't setup right on this rom. Either some samsung stuff is blocking something or the correct bluetooth settings aren't active because when I got in my car my phone immediately connected to the radio. This shouldn't happen.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Vetvito my man,

What exactly are we seeing in your photo? Is this NULL ROM?

Havge you extracted some APKs from i'mwatch ROM and installed them on the Gear?

What do you mean by "Bluetooth isn't setup right on this rom"?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] vetvito:
That's just the I'm watcher launcher and apps. They eat the battery like crazy.

I'm on Null Rom it's great but the bluetooth isn't correct.

I can't see where any bluetooth profiles are actually active.

I've edited the build.prop and audio config files but both leave me with a watch that won't boot.

My best guess is Samsung's proprietary crap takes priority over Fomeys mods.

I'll keep tinkering daily.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Brendo:
Instead of reinventing the wheel, you should have a chat to f0mey and see where he got in regards to profiles/communication channels. Potentially i'm watch apps use their own channel also?

Nice work on the iPhone side of things @.tieu @Accounti
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Totally agree with Brendo. If you get in touch with f0mey he may prove invaluable!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] vetvito:
I'm not reinventing the wheel.

I'm watch uses android 1.6 and it's bluetooth is totally different from 4.2.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
My man we are all trying to help. Thank younger your effort and keep up us posted.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Well guys i have reached the infamous JB tweak dev [MENTION=5048249]rpetrich[/MENTION] and pointed out this thread i have created asking for his help.

He told me that he could look into it, if somehow he got one for free.

So, for the second time, i am asking if someone is interested to donate a small amount so that we can gather the 130 (or smth) USD and send it over to the dev.

I would happily contribute 10 USD or even more, provided we have some results pretty soon.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fenx2002:
ok for 5 USD for me
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
My man please take a look at this:

https://itunes.apple.com/gr/app/notifyr-receive-ios-notifications/id873639935?mt=8&ign-mpt=uo=8

It seems that there is a server running on the iPhone (no JB required!) that catches all notifications and sends them over BT to a Mac.

All that remains is creating a similar client for the Gear. (Of course this could mean a LOT of work...)

Just in case it helps...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] DrNicket:
1+1=WhooHoo?

Would it be likely that Notifyr (iOS) could be used in tandem with a Pushbullet (Android) client to make it work?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Any news?

[MENTION=761104]vetvito[/MENTION] [MENTION=5808485].tieu[/MENTION] [MENTION=5459724]Accounti[/MENTION]
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] vetvito:
Nah I haven't played with it lately.

I'll dig around some more config files this weekend to see if I can anything bluetooth related.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
[MENTION=761104]vetvito[/MENTION]

Give it a shot man, because the God damned iWatch is still in rumorland.

It would be great if we could use the Gear with the iPhone!

Thanx a lot
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fenx2002:
yep

with IOS 8 is there anything more possible? i heard that the system is more open to the developers
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
I have seen in the Gear 2 forum that the watch connects with the iPhone and there is Caller ID and contacts, as well.

Which means that the Tizen FW is more compatible with the iPhone.

Can someone try the Tizen OS on the gear 1 with an iPhone and get back to us?

Thanx
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Brendo:
Pretty sure android version does that since gear is just seen as Bluetooth headset (like a car)?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
[MENTION=352841]Brendo[/MENTION]

No sir, Gear 1 with Android (stock or NULL) does not show call history and does not display contacts.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Bump.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Ok, guys good news I worked a lot and succeeded in finishing my first version of the tweak.

The very good news is that it is already available in Cydia !!!

Just search for

CloudNotifier

!

Thanks to my tweak you will be able to receive all your notifications on your Galaxy Gear !

You just have to set up a pushing box account (on pushing box website) and install the appropriate app on your gear ! (Newtifry for example)

In the settings you enter your pushingbox address (finishing with the id) you follow the steps and your done !

If you need any help I am going to start a new topic so that we can dedicate support to the tweak !

It's been a lot of work so please support me ! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Dude i just saw your post!

I currently do not have a Gear to test, but i am gonna check the Cydia app out and fortunately i will find a second hand Gear for a good price!

Thank you very much!

You are the first to actively propose smth that really renders the iPhone & Gear scenario from impossibility to a reality.

Well done, my man!

UPDATE: Dude, it will not let me download the tweak (Product is not currently certified to be compatible with your device.) on my iOS6.1.4 iPhone 5. Please check it out!!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Ok thank you very much ! I'm currently looking on this ! It is related to the Cydia store not the tweak !

I'll let you know as soon as it is done :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
On an iPhone 4 iOS 7.0.6 it can be downloaded without a problem.

Is your app iOS 6 compatible?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Yes it is ! :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
That is good news. Waiting for your notification after you fix the issue.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
It is fixed !!! ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
You sir are quite fast!

I am looking for a Gear right now.

Within the next few days i will get back with a review.

Just three quick questions:

1) How is the battery life of the Gear affected when it is BT tethering all the time? Do you have an estimate/relative experience?

2) Are there any privacy concerns regarding the fact that our notifications go to the cloud?

3) Do you think a direct BT connection between the Gear and the JB iPhone is feasible?

Thank you
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Sorry for the delay I was resting ^^

1) Battery Life seems ok, I tested it multiple times and in each case, It stayed all day long.

2) I don't think that you should have any concerns regarding your privacy. You can't encrypt the data as I would have to make your own server and an app for the android device but I think that it should be Ok

3)Direct BT connection has been my first goal. I tried different ways and asked on the forum and to devs but I couldn't get any help. I made my own research and using internet was the quickest way to have something fully functional.

But the fact that the gear uses Samsung Framework makes me a little pessimistic about using BT
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Anyone tried cloud notifier Cydia tweak from [MENTION=5459724]Accounti[/MENTION]?w
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] frozenchaos1983:
Hey Accounti first off thx for all your work. I bought your Cloudnotifier tweak, but what in the exact address i need to us from pushing box minus my id. i found my id easy enough but cant get the adress. Plz help
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Thank you for your interest !

The address should be something looking like :

http://api.pushingbox.com/pushingbox?devid=v0123456789ABCDE
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] frozenchaos1983:
Help

Thx again one more thing, on pushingbox website do I need to select services or scenarios for newtifry
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] tevis:
Question

Forgive me for this question. In order to use CloudNotifier, which I have already purchased, do I still need to root the Galaxy Gear?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Please guys come to the CloudNotifier thread to ask your question so that we keep this thread clean easy to access :)

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=53445834

Maybe gidi could edit the first post to notify everybody that there is a solution and redirect to the CloudNotifier thread :)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Done my man [MENTION=5459724]Accounti[/MENTION].
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Accounti:
Thank You Bro ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gcashiel:
apps for iphone to pair galaxy gear

Is there a way we can make an app to talk to the galaxy gear? Not only for notifications but also for any apps we can use with the watch?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jessedegenerate:
yes, we can now:

http://www.reddit.com/r/Android/comments/2wqt4q/mohammedag_gets_android_wear_to_work_with_an/

I immediately wondered if we could get this.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] DrNicket:
iPhone + Android Watch = Notifications

http://www.theverge.com/2015/2/22/8085157/developer-gets-android-wear-working-with-iphone

MohammadAG appears to have made progress. I'm eager to follow this.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] djaj786:
USING ANCS from iphone on gear

Can anyone help? i can't find what progress has been made here.

There are apps for android wear devices that pull notifications from the iphone but they dont work on Null and/or tizen, or do they somehow?

am i missing something?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Could not agree with you more.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] GP1138:
iPhone 5 and receiving the Gear for Christmas -- watching this (and threads like these) very closely.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] raiu:
Thinking about dumping the samsung phone and getting an iPhone :( this thread will help in this decision.

Too many bugs with the software on the note 3 and no fixes that keep the phone in warranty and no response from Samsung is what has made me think about this.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Jeshter2000:
I have no problems at all with my Note 3 still on the software it came out of the box back when it was released. BTW how the hell you gonna go back to 4 inch man....

Cant imagine a Galaxy S now ...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Bigger doesn't mean better, not all the times. For example for me could be impossibile to leave the phone in the pocket while at work if bigger than iphone 5 or similar.

BTW, null rom has lot of potential not expressed, if Pebble and I'm Watch work with iphone for everything surely the Gear can do the same, cause the hardware it's better. It's only matter to find the way.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Downloading now null 16. Will test now that fOmey added MAP profile support on the Gear.

Just did a dirty installation of null 16 over version 15. ROM seems to be OK.

iPhone (5S, no JB) related facts:

1) Still no caller ID

2) Still no messages notification on the watch (although fOmey activated the MAP profile)

It seems that maybe we need to have some software running on the iPhone itself in order to have the two communicating properly.

Will test more and get back.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
I'm at parents for xmas, so no test until now, but I'm Watch don't use any app from iPhone side to receive sms from MAP, so still miss something to make the gear to recognize the iPhone MAP.

---------- Post added at 06:39 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:24 PM ----------

From I'm Watch support page:

So it seems that must need something to turn on in bt settings that is missing, maybe in the section profile, where we turn on the tethering, another profile to turn on sms? Also, it's not a matter of Iphone or not, it's the same for iOS and android too.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Does I'M watch use android ? Try get a dump of the APK it uses.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
It use android 1.6 customized called I'mdroid. I don't know how to get a dump Of an apk. We can download the firmware. Could be done from that?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] drmikeb:
Great work guys

I'm waiting patiently to get the notifications and caller Id to work with iPhone 5!!!!!! Keep the updates coming!! Great work so far!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Android 1.6 ? Perhaps.. you have a link to the firmware ?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Don't know if it's a full firmware or only a part:

http://support.imwatch.it/downloads/
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Oh nice, downloading now.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
And if you want, this is the developer site with downloads:

http://developer.imsmart.com/download/adb-system-image
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
OK, Well I managed to get a dump of all the APK's.. need to activate that profile if it comes up in settings first i believe.

Heres the messaging one:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
Awsome! Can you also figure out how it handles contacts and id calling? I know that there is a bt profile also for that, maybe the OPP and the PBAP profile.

Little OT: fOmey do you know that if you could make a custom firmware for the I'm Watch you would become the king for a lot Of people that are in pain for lack of apps and support and updates for that product?? Hahahaha!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
I dont own one man, if I did yea why not !

Im going to experiment with the apps a little more when I have time..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Robotblog:
I don't own too, if i had one, knowing you behind the scenes i will give you mine for all the time needed.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
OMG i did not watch the thread for 12 hours and we've got news!!!

fOmey my man, should i install the apk on the Gear?

I used to have the imwatch and it could work with iPhone and Android.

It also had smth called smart tethering which supposedly provided better battery life.

I guess it was smth that one could simulate with Tasker, i think there already is a thread for that. Someone has created a Tasker script that kills the tethering when screen off.

Robotblog do you have the i'mwatch?

UPDATE: Maybe the following are of interest to fOmey and possibly other devs:

http://developer.imsmart.com/files/libs/docs/jdocs/index.html

http://developer.imsmart.com/libraries/bluetooth-apis
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fOmey:
Yeah push the apk to your gear and see what happens with a iPhone.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] gidi:
Doing it in the next 10 minutes.

App installed successfully.

Still no messages notifications on the watch.

All the app does is show black screen saying "empty".

Will reboot watch, iPhone and get back.

Update: Still nothing.