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[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] >>X<<:
If you want to get a good idea of the size, its just a few millimeters smaller than a sheet of A4 paper, I certainly wouldn't have a problem using this device.

Note Pro 12.2

295.6 mm x 204 mm x 7.95 mm

A4

297 mm x 210 mm
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] dt33:
When u write this, 12.2 doesnt looks big. But when watching this video and 12.2 does looks huge compared to Note 10.1 2014.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lzFbNnYjRik
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] >>X<<:
Yes it looks big compared to the 10.1, but look at the proportions when compared to his hands, its not easy to judge the size of something from a video.

In any case everyone should have a sheet of A4 lying around somewhere to get a true sense of the size :)

Not sure why everyone is getting stuck on size, it will work for some and not for others like any of these devices.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] reubenskelly1992:
Exactly personally bit too big for me but for office workers and laptop lovers think it will be great
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] hajime_android:
Is 12.2 too large for flight table? My 15" MBP does not fit well.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Geordie Affy:
I read your message as I just boarded the plane so here's a pic of the Note 10.1....so use your imagination if an extra 2 inches is too much lol.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/wjgyrrek43jzssy/20140108_175818 (1).jpg

Hope that pic helps.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] BarryH_GEG:
Now, imagine in it propped up in the standing position in the Book Cover. The person in front of you reclines their seat. To clear the now reclined seat your N10.1-14 is practically at the edge of your tray tablet. Usually there's something else on my tray table (EG: drink, food, papers) so that my tablet is cantered to one side at a 45 degree angle. There will be no cantering of the N12, at least in coach. You can (barely) use the N10.1-14 in portrait mode when the seat in front of you isn't reclined and when it is it's game over.

Here's a couple of things that confuse me about the debate over the N12's size.

A 12" display makes it a laptop replacement - Yep. If it ran windows, had USB ports, and video out ports. Android sucks because there is no real "provided by Microsoft" office app. It also sucks at connecting to printers and external projection devices. I've used every single Android "faux-Office" product there is (I have four currently loaded and pick and choose based on which weakness I'm trying to avoid) and they all have strengths and weaknesses. The biggest being what you're editing in faux-Office on Android can look different when opened on a PC and Mac. Things I've sent that looked perfect on my end lead to calls from recipients saying "huh?" I use RDP now to be able to use my desktop(s) for any serious document creation or editing. But that's not always practical because even though I have a 3G N10.1-14 there are times I need to do office work and can't get a cellular or Wi-Fi signal. Because of these limitations I don't consider my N10.1-14 a viable "laptop replacement." The improved h/w on the N10.1-14 and some s/w tweaks in 4.3 and TW have made it a hell of a lot better so when I know I'm going to be doing more reviewing than creating I can leave my laptop home. Because of the limitations that have nothing to do with display size the N12's larger display and a snap-on keyboard don't suddenly make it a laptop replacement.

"It's too big" - "No it's not" - While personally, because of the above, the fact I use my N10.1-14 for traveling, and do a lot of consumption, I view the loss of portability as unworthy of the benefit of a larger viewing area. For pure consumption users, especially those that travel, I have a hard time seeing a 12" display as worth the portability trade-off. For those that do want to make the laptop replacement attempt or those that are heavy S Pen users I can see the benefit. I'd bet no two people on this forum use their tablet the exact same way. Therefore there can't be a definitive answer to "is it too big?" Buy what makes you happy. ;)
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Duly.noted:
What's the draw of a 4:3 tablet? Almost all media is in 16:9 1080 or 720. Websites aren't any different. Most computer monitors are 16:10 or 16:9
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] BarryH_GEG:
'Nuf said. ;)
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] GeorgeP:
For everything except video viewing, I prefer 4:3. I've always thought of this as one of the ipad advantages, but the high resolution of the N10.1 2014 nullifies that advantage.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Duly.noted:
I can understand the preference But even for books 4:3 is about equal with 16:10 And web browsing etc... there is a thread Somewhere where aguy really breaks it down but can't do anything about preference
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] GeorgeP:
Preferences can be based on objective benefits. Resolution is ultimately more important to me, which is one of the reasons I've have the N10.1 instead of an ipad. However, given the same number of pixels (for the sake of the argument) I think 4:3 makes more sense for most content (except of course 16:9 video) than does 16:10 or 16:9. Most websites will show a lot a horizontal white space in order to render at 16:9. I'd rather minimize the amount of vertical scrolling I have to do. Business apps for producing letter size documents, I think also benefit from the additional vertical real estate. Nearly all computer screens are 16:10 or 16:9, but is driven primarily by significant scale economies of producing screens with that aspect ratio, given all the TV monitors the manufacturers produce. Apple must think that most consumers have the same preferences. It cost a lot more to manufacture 4:3 screens than 16:9 or even 16:10, yet they still make ipads with 4:3. I think this may change over time as more apps and content in general come out better suited for the wider screen.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Duly.noted:
I'm not certain but you are aware you can turn the tablet into portrait mode right?

Here are Some stats

4:3= 1:33

16:10 = 1:1.62

"A Format" paperbacks are 4.33" x 7.01" (1:1.62)

"B Format" paperbacks are 5.12" x 7.8" (1:1.52)

"C Format" trade paperbacks are 5.32" x 8.51" (1:1.60)

Standard size magazines are 8 3/8" X 10 7/8" (1:1.30)

Digest size magazines are either 5½ x 8¼ inches (1:1.5), 5⅜ x 8⅜ inches (1:1.56) or 5½ x 7½ inches (1:1.36)

Web pages don't have a set aspect ratio; that's the whole point. A web page viewed full-width will involve less scrolling on a 4:3 tablet, but most web pages will be too small to read full-width on a tablet, so this is beside the point.

Now for media

The most common aspect ratios in US cinemas are 1:1.85 and 1:2.35 / 1:2.39. Both are far, far closer to fitting a 16:10 screen than a 4:3 screen.

The most common aspect ratio for European cinemas is 1:1.66

The standard aspect ratio for HDTV is 1:1.77/1:1.78.

Standard-def TV is 1:1.33.

Most professional / enthusiast still cameras shoot at 1:1.5.

Most consumer point-and-shoots shoot at 1:1.33.

Now if we compare 10 of these better fit the 10.1's 1: 1.62 aspect ratio compared to 4 for the ipad's 1:1.33 aspect ratio. And websites can be viewed in portrait with zoom so that's really moot. So objectively 16:10 fits more needs better than 4:3 for a variety of media types.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] GeorgeP:
Thanks for all the stats! But your stats substantiate my original statement that I prefer 4:3 for everything except video viewing.

The problem with your conclusion is that you are only looking a very small subset of what people use their tablets. Also not everyone uses tablets for the media types you picked.

For example:

- Books: You are implying that if one wants to replicate the experience of reading A, B, or C format paperbacks, one is better off with a 16:10 device. This is not relevant for someone who always reads their books on their phone, instead of the tablet (like me)

- Magazines: You are implying the magazines are better in this regard on a 4:3

- Web pages: You note that 4:3 requires less scrolling. Also, I can read full width web pages quite easily on both my ipad and N10.1 2014, so that is not beside the point.

- Movies: You say movies are better on 16:10. I agree, This is not relevant for some who does not watch movies on the tablet. (like me)

- Photos: For viewing photos at native resolution you imply 4:3 is better.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Duly.noted:
I Just tried to reply but was told I couldn't access the page

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Type C is also the standard for Hardbacks

Only for Consumer level photos Not pro Sumer OR pro

Only For 2 types of magazines Out of 4

Apps and games scale

Paper sizes are a bit closer to 4.3 but Landscape is easier to work in and a full page on a 4:3 would be cramped and hard to edit anyways Not to mention the benefit of running 2 apps simultaneously in the Note's case with drag and drop which definitely wouldn't work as well on a 4:3

Also magazines will Vary and some will match 16:10 better.

I chose average material anyone might use. They are pretty inclusive.

Your preference is ok But objectively 16:10 is better no wonder only 0.02 off the Golden Ratio.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] BarryH_GEG:
I got/get what you're saying and appreciate the time you took to put the ratios for the various content types you listed together. :good:
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aznmode:
My note 10.1 on top of it
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Geordie Affy:
I can only guess you have played around with the Note 12.2? If so how do you find the new software on it?
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] BarryH_GEG:
The N12 looks more manageable when compared to 10" tablets that haven't trimmed down like N10.1-14 has. But the trimming down was the second most important feature to me after the display. Anyone that travels despises bulk and will do anything they can to rid themselves of it.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aznmode:
Software is the same with just some minor tweak like the 4 split screen. The magazine launcher kinda lags but it may because it's still sort of beta.

Trying to upload a video of the transition but it's not uploading. Will have to try when I get back to the hotel.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] dt33:
Is it already out for sale or is it just for review unit?

Is for sale and how much did it cost?

Really want 12.2, but the weight is big drawback and with book cover will be around 960g?
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aznmode:
They weren't selling them
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] BarryH_GEG:
Hey, I'm assuming you're at CES. Since tomorrow's the last day there may not be a lot of intelligent life working the Samsung booth but, if there is, can you try to find out the future of the N10.1-14? Things like 4.4/Magazine UX prospects and whether it's going to be superseded by a Note 10.1|Pro. The fact there's been no mention of it in any references to the 2014 premium tablet line is a bit odd.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aznmode:
I'll try but all the reps around there are just hired from a promotion agency and they don't know much.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Diogenes5:
Ugh ... the large size makes so much more sense for students who are constantly working with pdf's and other office documents. But you do lose portability and probably some battery life as has been said. Then there's the price factor. The note 10.1 2014 was 549/599 retail (though in the real world with holidays sales it was 499/549). I'm guessing the 12.1 will be 699 for the 16gb model? I don't think they can price much higher if at all because of the surface pro and the fact that bay trail tablets are nipping at samsung's heels.

Will probably wait for the reviews and a nice newegg sale before I bite. Flipping the note 10.1 2014 will hopefully be easy :/
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] bitpushr:
Just pre-ordered mine. Ships 2/13 (in US).
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] Duly.noted:
If it can be rooted Hell yeah. I'll be trading up to it.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] z31k:
Im more than sure it can be rooted.. :)
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] nsiti:
Care to elaborate ? :)
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] z31k:
Given the fact that its 4.4.2 and a samsung. The rooting method should be identical to all other android kitkat variants.. ODIN TWRP/CWM recovery and install/flash SuperSU zip files.. ?
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] nsiti:
Cool, thanks.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
does anyone know which model numbers will have the snapdragon 800 processor? reason i ask is I currently have note 10.1 2014 and it is painfully slow to charge. I'm glad they finally wised up and moved the charging location to the side. I also like the usb 3.0 since I also have the Sprint Note 3. The charging issue is making me seriously want the 12.2....i feel like i drank the samsung koolaide..lol
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] ValenteL:
We need one Customer Recovery to flash by Odin.

After, by Recovery flash the UPDATE-SuperSU-1.93.zip from Chainfire and we have root but not busybox.

Touch on SuperSU to update the SU and invalidate the Knox (if is there).

From Play store download and install the Sterycson Busybox 1.22.1 and all root must be alright.

Then, first of all a Costumer Recovery.;):)

See this: http://pdadb.net/ Write on box top left Note Pro 12.2, Search and You have all 7 Model's. Click on See all Details from each one.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
FYI

SM-p900 is note pro 12.2 (wifi only exnoyos octa)

SM-p901 is note pro 12.2 (wifi & 3g exnoyos octa)

sm-p905 is note pro 12.2 (wifi & 4gLTE with Snapdragon 800 *** has the quick charge 2.0 built in to get full charging of usb 3.0 much the same as the note 3)
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] z31k:
That is correct sir, but there is no doubt it will invalidate Knox. Knox is a feature that comes standard on magazine UX.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
get over the whole knox trip thing people...hardly ever do you return to manufacturer anyways. if you wont root because it trips thats on you. I personally dont care.

I believe

cf-auto root (someone will probably.port it)

custom TWRP (someone would need to build, start a bounty thread).

custom kernel (maybe dutch danny ports his or offer bounty

custom ROM (maybe Scotts Rom ports and/or supports his Clean Rom for these tablets)
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] hajime_android:
So, it takes less time to fully charge the Note Pro 12.2 than the Note 10.1 2014?
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
I can't say yes or no as of this moment on faster charging for wifi model p900/p900 since they are same exnoyos octa core as in the p600. I read that qualcom's snapdragon 800 has quick charge 2.0 built into chip, which will only be on the note pro 12.2 p905 model, I believe which is the 4glte version. I'm making the assumption that it will charge faster with usb 3.0 & quick charge 2.0. I use my tablet constantly, note 10.1 2014 wifi only p600 version. I love the tablet besides the annoying charge time and poor location and microusb. I think for a tablet that is used mainly in landscape the newer side location for the note 12.2 will be a better location.

Also with sizes of the tablets I suggest (no case, but a padded sleeve to transport it.) & 2 Flygrip gravities (www.flygrip.com).
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
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[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
Due to the coat on the back you need to use the 3 auto adhesive for it to stick, just let Michael, the owner at flygrip know when you order. Also if you put qbking77 under coupon code you get free usps shipping. If you put it lower than half way you can use as kickstand as well. Also holding is very easy with 2 fingers.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] hajime_android:
The flygrip is interesting but with it, I can't use the logitech keyboard and case. By the way, the logitech's PRO is 583g. Together with the Note Pro 12.2 (750g), it weights at the range of laptop computer. I wonder if I should buy a 10.1 2014 or a PRO 12.2. I also consider to replace my 15" MacBook Pro 15" with the MacBook Air 13" or MBP 13".
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
Depends on budget....I've never been all about the cases with keyboard. I don't use it enough in that format to warrant it. Note 10.1 2014 is very nice for $550 wifi only model sm-p600 for 16gbTheir are 2 developers working on them, Scotts Clean Rom & Dutch Danny w/custom kernel & megadroid rom (I think wh a t it's called), has root and twrp supported custom recovery...note 12.2 wifi sm-p905 is like $750 for 32gb I think. The model I want sm-p905 (w/snapdragon 800 processor is 899 for 3 gb version unlocked). I have sprint so I'd figure I'd try and add it to my family plan since unlimited data at least on phone anyways. Ideally I would get sm-900 but. Exnoyos processor won't charge fast as the snapdragon 800.

If you don't use it for hours on end wifi only will be fine. Like I said depends on need and budget. Try selling some of you older ones to help pay for it.

I will give this to my gf.

And try for the notepro 12.2 32gb wifi + 4glte sm- p905. Due to be release feb 24th...feb 13th on others models. She has my original note 10. 1 and galaxy tab 2 10.1....

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Gigabyte GM-M7700B Compact Bluetooth Laser Mouse

On amazon... Perfect for tablet

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Corrected link http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GM-M...qid=1392013160&sr=8-3&keywords=Gigabyte+mouse

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Disregard both prior links, I'm an idiot. You want bt mouse.

http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-GM-M...qid=1392013272&sr=8-8&keywords=Gigabyte+mouse
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] ssaass:
LTE version ? release date? !:crying:
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] aburns7487:
Sm-P905 note 12.2 wifi 4glte (32gb was $899, 64 gb was 999) from the only site I could find prices, said feb 24th available. This example is for unlocked. Rumors said Verizon & AT&t will be carrying them. No clue what they would charge for their plans plus there is a data cap....my dream is to get it and add to my Sprint family plan and it hopefully being unlimited data. I have rooted note 3 with native hot spot hack so not worried for wifi. Sorry for long explanation
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] ahmedsheme:
thanks man for info...:cool:
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] h0lypop:
Hi, there

Could anybody pls tell me is it possible to enable LTE in p901 (3G ver.)? :eek:

I heard somebody said that in note 4 H (3G ver.) that's may possible by changing rom! He told it because in note 4 , samsung has integrated the same modem in all variants(C,S,H,F, ...) :confused:

So, I'll glad if anybody have more info about the note pro. :fingers-crossed:

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[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] ShadowLea:
You can't. It doesn't have a 4G chip.

Missing hardware can't be compensated by changing firmware.
[Galaxy Note Pro 12.2 General] h0lypop:
Thanks, bro.:cool:

I had thought maybe the same modem also is integrated in all variants of the note pro (900,901,905):silly:
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] kaktus283:
Hello, three days ago when I calling from my Galaxy Nexus I hear very queit sound from speaker and can't understand other people. I tryed down and up sound level from button and still sound from speaker is like 10% power of normal work. I change ROM with clean install and problem is still same, what I can do to test it? Is chance, the speaker was broken and need to replace it? Which is cost of new? Anyone have this problem with silent sound from front speaker?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Nekrophilia:
My S4 is currently running MF3, i rooted while in MF3 so it was that soft root stuff without the bootloader. i figured it was time for an update to 4.3 so when i went to Unroot the phone it literally just sat at the Samsung Custom Screen. I tried to access the TWRP and restore that way, Nothing happend, i took it to best buy and tried to reflash it that way, their computer couldn't see my phone.

So my last option would be to connect it into Odin correct? Would this work or am i wasting my time?
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
Try Odin. There is a thread with the correct files.

Also, please do not talk about smashing or purposely damaging your phone for warranty. That is warranty fraud and is not allowed on XDA.
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] Nekrophilia:
Lol True , sorry bout that. I'll give odin a try, i have the thread...just hoping this really works :(
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshootin] graydiggy:
It should work. Make sure you have your drivers and your device in DL mode when you connect it to your PC. Also use a back USB port.
[General Questions and Answers] jhun24:
Many of my apps are missing after restarting.. i have checked for errors in my sd card, got errors and corrected but still apps were missing.. also my music app cannot find any music in my storage.. i noticed that apps that were missing are those on the sd card. Someone experienced this? I want to know a fix for this without restoring. Please help. Thanks

For got to say, sd card is running fine after the checkdisk.
[General Questions and Answers] CodeIndia:
check the sd card if the data is there and accessible .

if yes

1) try powering off n on instead of rebooting.

2) try unmount and remount.

3) try reinserting the sd card..
[General Questions and Answers] rokvil:
My step me that to install a cooked rom, my only solution was to return to the basic rom and install a more recent version
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MameTozhio:
Okay, so I was going to perform a logcat to see why MiHome was crashing for me on 4.4.2, and I get this result...

mame@pantheon:~$ sudo adb logcat

Unable to open log device '/dev/log/main': No such file or directory

mame@pantheon:~$

I have no clue what could have caused this.. my setup is this:

Stock 4.4.2

Root + Busybox + Init.d Support + Crossbreeder goodbye_p edition + Turbo Boost 300 MB cache swap + Adbd Insecure + Semaphore kernel

Xposed, with modules All Notifications Expanded, AppOpsXposed, Enable Battery Stats Permission, GravityBox KitKat, Jelly Toast, LWInRecents,and YouTube adaway

(Before someone says "do a search it's been answered" I did search and found no answer..)
[Nexus 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] MameTozhio:
I fixed it, I just disabled then reenabled logger for Semaphore in semaphore manager.. locking this now :P