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[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
some of the steps include rooted device to be needed to perform tasks. so, if you root, you already won't be able to ota stock. but you will still be able flash 4.4 stock through Odin or any custom. zip rom. choice is yours.

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I'm on vn rom since day one... great rom.

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and when 4.4 comes out in sure there is a way. ota custom or flash(like I said) stock with odin.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BoSmrh:
thx this have helped me alot :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] marinalin85:
Battery issue!

Hi. I have a Note 3 which is not that new, and I guess this is the problem but still.

Battery life of the original one last about 5-6 hours but not on screen time, having a normal use with not more than 3 hours on screen time. So I tought that might be a battery problem, like being old or something. I bought anouther one, which is not original and with this one is even lower, not more than 1-2 hours on screen time. Can someone tell me what's the problem? Some hardware issue? Anyone facing the same issue?

Thank you!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] pacc:
I think it's not hardware related.

I did the same thing and bought a new battery and I'm having a much better battery life now.

Your battery drain may be due to software, so try updating to latest firmware and resetting your phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Infinity123:
I have a two year old N3, and it has been getting worse and worse SOT with every update. On KK I had 7h SOT and on LP I couldn't get over 4-5h (usually 3h). My phone was getting also hotter and it had a huge standby battery drain.

Two weeks ago I fried the motherboard and sent it to RMA (in hopes to get a new phone), but they replaced the motherboard. That means I have new CPU and Knox is reset (0x00), but the screen, battery and frame are the same. It has now epic battery life. I think it will reach close to 7H SOT, on LP with a 2 year old battery today :D.

I don't know, but can the SOC power usage increase over time???
[Galaxy Note 3 General] david576:
CPU governor

Hi!

I just started to use CPU governor (Kernel Adiutor). I'm wondering if anyone could help me with the best settings for battery saving. If I set it on ondemand the phone reboots, I have no idea why.

ROM: AryaMod V8.1 TW Lollipop Official BOJ6

Kernel: idleKernel 6.6.2

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MaxRj15:
I installed Greenify and will hope that will help me to save energy.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] iNette:
My advice: Never forget to calibrate your battery after flashing a new rom and reboot the phone at least once a day.

iNette

Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AndrOmega:
best combination is Greenify+Servicely+Amplify !!

24 hours screen on time with zerolemon 10.000 mAh

screenshots soon !!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Maurizio1953:
Will amplify work without xposed?

Inviato dal mio SM-N9005 utilizzando Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Alex87142:
Tried everything on the list. Now testing. Before i had 5 hours screen time.

Gesendet von meinem SM-N9005 mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Thanks! I was just thinking maybe all this battery problem will be solved in 4.4 firmware and we all just need to be patiently wait. If the rumor is true that 4.4 updates within vicinity in February then I think it is worth the wait.

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Btw, since the things needs rooted devices I wonder if anyone here ever used Kingo rooting/unrooting tool. I've been searching the most safest way to root/unroot my note 3 since I don't want to lose official OTA updates. Does anyone here ever try Kingo on note 3?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gaganmohal:
Even after factory resetting my phone, I'm only getting 4hours screen on time. Screen brightness 50%. Power saving mode was ON all the time.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Btw, since the things needs rooted devices I wonder if anyone here ever used Kingo rooting/unrooting tool. I've been searching the most safest way to root/unroot my note 3 since I don't want to lose official OTA updates. Does anyone here ever try Kingo on note 3?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Do NOT use power saving mode, it will eat more juice. Trust me.

Turn it off asap.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] brysonwong:
Wasn't power saving mode meant to safe battery??
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Las night I disabled Google Now and use Timely instead of standard alarm clock, seems the battery draining rate was reduced at certain point. Still monitoring though.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
I wouldn't count on 4.4 solve any battery issues(seems like you have some). SOME THINGS NEED TO BE DONE ON OUR PART still.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
I erased internal storage using twrp. Then flashed my kernel and restored apps using titanium backup. I'm now getting 6 hours screen on time. From the previous 4.5. And android system is no longer eating up 20% of my battery in batt stats. It worked for me. Maybe erasing the internal storage is better vs simple factory reset (erases /data folder and clears dalvik and reg cache.

Sent feom the beast we call the Note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 General] testmonkey1:
I'm getting desperate. I have done everything on the list, with the exception of changing the kernel. I have set the cpu gov to ondeamnd, even tried battery saver (using latest OmegaROM) but I can hardly get more than 4 or 5 hours of screen time. I do not have a wakelock problem, since the batter drops 1% at worst overnight while I'm sleeping (approx. 8 hours). Does anyone have any idea what might be the issue?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] anthon:
Same for me

5 hours of screen on time is the average

Have you tried with another battery?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] heinmir:
Greenpower

I had a lot of problems with battery drain. After installing Greenpower app battery is okay. Maybe you can give it a try,
[Galaxy Note 3 General] leekb:
I had the shocking battery drain issue after MJ7 firmware upgrade. The drain was so severe the phone had become nearly unusable in conducting my day-to-day business. It was extremely frustrating.

In searching for a solution, I come across a thread that claimed a wipe of the cache partition would solve the problem. I was skeptical but tried it anyway. To my surprise, it did solve the problem. My battery consumption resumed to normal after the wipe. Apparently, this works for some and not for others. Wiping cache partition causes no loss of data - it does not hurt to try.

* Switch off phone - make sure it's completely off. Even better, leave the battery out for half a minute to be sure.

* Boot to Recovery Mode - Press and Hold 3 buttons simultaneously to power up to Recover Mode (Power + Volume Up + Home).

* Using the Volume button as Up/Down cursor control, select "Wipe Cache Partition", confirm action using the Power button.

* The Wipes takes less than 5 seconds. After the Wipe, select "Reboot Phone" to Reboot to Normal mode.

Good luck.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Yes, beside rebooting the phone, try to wipe cache partition + wipe Dalvik cache.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] brysonwong:
How much should the average screen time be on mobile data? 4 hrs?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] testmonkey1:
No I haven't tried another battery. Unfortunately I can't afford an extra battery just to test things out.

As to the guys suggesting wiping cache - this is step number one from this list (farctory reset + cache wipe + dalvik wipe + internal sd wipe + reinstallation of latest firmware). I have done all that, but to no avail. I cannot get more than 5 hours of browsing time, while people on the forum reporting 8-9 hours of on screen time.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] htc9420:
+1... 4hrs screen time is about the max I get from my device...it is weird how my SGN3 lost 24 hrs of usability time within 4 months...I was able to use for 2 whole days in the beginning but now it barely passes the day....no matter how many wipes I did...just same story as SGS2&3....androidOS/google play services goings nuts all over the batt stats...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] aydc:
I think most people boasting 8-9 hours of screen time are using the N9005 version. Most Exynos users can't get more than 4-5 hours.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] brysonwong:
I'm using SD N9005 version but getting an average of 4 hours screen time. Non rooted. Anyone the same?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Google Play Services are all about Location Services. Turn off Google now and Google location services. Things will improve. Also turn off unnecessary sensors for everyday activities like air gestures. Mine is better after turning off such services.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] testmonkey1:
I'm sorry I probably should have noted that I am using indeed the N9005 version. As for the guy saying his device lost the 24 hour usability after the first 4 months - my device is 2 weeks old out of the box.

Yes mate, me! Look at the above posts I am looking for help now, please keep updated if you find some kind of a solution

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As for the guy proposing turning off unessecary sensons etc. - I have already done all of that.. Like I said I have done all of the things on page 1 with the exception of custom kernel. Most of which I found for the N9005 offer CPU overclocks and performance gains, one thing I do NOT want to be messing with (stock CPU clock) plus I don't really see how overclocking the CPU will help me increase my battery time :/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Goodm7sn:
Same here, screen time 4 hrs (a miracle if I get 5hrs) and I'm using the N9005 stock mj7.

This is really frustrating me, and for the first time since ages today morning I thought of taking the charger with me.

I'm starting to hate this phone,nothi works after this **** mj7 update ....

Should have kept my Note 2.....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jaycb420:
I have the Canadian variant. And my best ever was 6 hours. But my average is 4 hours. And I have the snapdragon as well.

Sent from the N900W8 beast using SaberRed via Tapatalk 4
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
I heard that thing about overclocking helping you save more power as processes will have shorter Time-To-Live, hereby letting go of the CPU quicker. But I don't buy it. My phone uses less power when Power saver is on (CPU is underclocked to 1.4GHz)

TRUST ME MATE! Wiping cache is not the fix. Great if it worked for you, but it's not it. Lol.

Lets be patient also guys, S4 users had the same issue, but it has been fixed with one of their latest updates (MG9)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Zevin64:
I'm barely squeezing in 6 hours screen time, with 61 brightness and disabled bloatware and greenified apps. I used to get around 8 hrs with the same settings. Not sure what happened, might have to check some of my Xposed modules.

what exactly is the app Perso Version 4.4-N9005XXUDMJ7 ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oscarthegrouch:
I'm at four hours thirty eight minutes screen time at 77% battery with the green app and set CPU. This is with playing some candy crush too. I'm snapdragon. Now at six hours and forty six minutes screen time and currently 52%. Getting ready to go to bed now. I'll have to see his much drain happens overnight.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
wich rom your on? and what steps did you take to prevent this from happening?

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not true. I'm on n900. getn 8 on 85% brighteness. getting 16h with 6h screen on. all day data on, no surfing but checking FB and XDA, some sync, lots of phonecalls with bluetooth, come home with 93%. 9am to 6pm.

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vn rom mk1 n900. couldn't ask for more. but a lot done on my part too. so should you. Titanium, Greenify, delete unwanted, unneeded with root explorer, Google off, Location off. AWESOME! (no voice commands, none of that unnecessary garbage. voice frozen)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Nope! I have Exynos N900 Note 3 and I get 8 to 9 hours screen time. Look at the screenshot below.

84% and already at 2hrs screen time and if you look further below you will see that I 'Average' 9hrs+ screen time because of all the steps I applied in First post. :)

And I even have BBM working all day long. BBM is like the most battery hungry app on Android now. Lol.

I use WiFi. Battery drain is TERRIBLE on mobile data.

Here is the screeny :)

You see? He has Snappy Note 3. Yet bad battery. Thanks to MJ7+ firmware
[Galaxy Note 3 General] aydc:
Yes, but you are rooted. I know that if I root, I can increase my battery life significantly only by disabling Fast Dormancy. Put on top of that a custom kernel and I'll maybe get 20 hours of screen time. :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
so, looks like you know it all. what's the problem? do what you have to do and enjoy.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vladandrei51:
I use greenify and uninstalled some of the apps that come with Samsung official rom and the battery life is PURELY awesome.

After 24h of low-medium usage I still have > 80% battery left.

I also do recommend using the Power saving mode pretty much always on, hell, i can play with power saving on Asphalt 8 on highest video quality flawless.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
All settings checked on Power Saving Mode?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Lol. This post tho. The best way to preserve ur Awesome battery life is 'not updating' your mobile to the latest software versions... Battery Life on MI5 was EPIC!

Dats how i use mine tho. :) All settings checked.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] robandr:
Today Android OS is spending 60% of my battery. Only 1hr of screen time. I really should not have updated to MJ7.

I need to reset my Note 3 almost every day to avoid this problem.

Last week I had one day in which my phone was deep sleeping properly. Than the rate of battery decrease was only 0.2%/hr. It was incredible good. But after some hours the awake problem started again.

Sent from Note III (N9005)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2385843
[Galaxy Note 3 General] robandr:
Hi corruptionfreeindia,

My location services are all disabled. It doesn't fix my problem.

Sent from Note III (N9005)

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My locations services are already all disabled.

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
not necessary. do what you must and the battery shall live on. lol. I get crazy stand by time, great screen on time. There are other ways then to sacrifice performance. The only device I used saving mode was HTC One (m7),

note there, it was do or die and not affected performance at all, but with mode off battery was rediculously short. it is NOT necessary here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] robandr:
See today after a soft reset even with no cell phone signal available: 0.2%/hr.

I wish it could stay with this deep sleep level always, but as always happens it will start increasing awake time during the day and at night it will be horrible again:(

Sent from Note III (N9005)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Android Run Time (ART) KitKat 4.4

There is new VM called ART (Android Run Time) on KitKat besides Dalvix available on KitKat, does anyone here have more information about it ? It says that it able to speed up processes while conserve more batteries.

The only thing hold me back from rooting and customizing my phone right now is because 4.4 KitKat updated rumored to be released this late January.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] brysonwong:
Praying hard they'll release 4.4 update by end this month!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] robandr:
See if somebody can help me. Today my awake time from 8am to 3pm was 5%. After that I have listened 40min of music by using a Bluetooth headset. After this listening my awake time increased first to 30%. This was Ok because the headset was keeping my phone awake. But now, at 9pm, without the headset the awake time is 50%. I have attached pictures of Awakelock Detector showing:

1. CPU Wakelock

2. Wakeup Triggers

3. Kernel wakelock7

The are just so many wakeup triggers happening. I cannot find ot a root cause. Is android OS so poor implemented or is just this Note 3 that is buggy? The battery should have a great priority in a mobile OS, so there should be a way to limit the max awake time during the screen off!!!

During all day the autosync was disabled, gps off, wifi and bluetooth on.

Sent from Note III (N9005)

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[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Bluetooth always on was the culprit I guess.

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Some good news for battery on 4.4 KitKat ..

quoted :

"Google Play Services is now receiving an update to version 4.1, bringing improved battery life when location reporting is active, turn-based multiplayer support, a new Google Drive API, and more.

Play Services is the framework of Google services that developers can use to build and enhance their apps. Last updated following the release of Android 4.4 KitKat, the app runs as a background process giving other apps access to Google-powered features like maps, Google Plus integration, Play Games services, and more. The app is mostly important to Android developers, but updates eventually improve user experience, by allowing devs to create new features and improving performance and battery life."

http://www.androidauthority.com/google-play-services-4-1-update-332922/
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Leaks came for Snapdragon Note 3 already. I have Exynos, so i'm still waiting :)

Hopefully, the Android OS drain gets fixed. It drains 10 to 20% instead of the normal 6 to 7% thereabout...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] :
hello,

do you Greenify everything? for example the battery monitor pro - is it Greenified or not (in your case)?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Greenified many apps but not GSam Battery Pro. I have Donate version of Greenify tho, but i never greenify system apps. Ironically found out it drains even more battery dat way. Why> I have no idea. All other Pro features are Amazing however! :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Despite of greenifying apps I found that screen is the most battery drainer ever. Put all apps to greenify even that will not help much in conserving battery for playing / using screen time in hourly basis (yes I use screen time alot).
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Wait! WUT? Of course screen should drain most battery. Lol. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nlatifolia:
Maybe I wasn't making my point clear. Greenify things wouldn't help much. It is 'how we use the phone' behavior that affect much.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
HEY GUYS! HERE IS MY LATEST BATTERY TEST USING MY SETTINGS

About 60 hours Total time and 7 and Half hours Screen Time

:D

BATTERY USE

GRAPH

SCREEN

SUMMARY

APPS USAGE
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MSK1:
Do u actually use the phone? :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vivek_Neel:
If not then how did he get 7hr on screen time?:eek:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
[MENTION=4954307]MSK1[/MENTION] it might be hard to believe, but [MENTION=5022494]corruptionfreeindia[/MENTION] is not a Rocket Scientist :p

Actually, I found Greenify to be Pretty useful! Especially if you have the donate version. :)

Cheers! You welcome mate :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] punkstoner:
I wish my battery stats looked like Stanley08's :(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] symobay:
i'm achieving 7 hours of screentime as well, but with just 20 of standby. The fact is: your mobile radio signal is just perfect during the whole time!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] denski101:
Very nice [MENTION=4702699]stanley08[/MENTION]

Here's my very last battery charge on jelly bean. I couldnt resist the new lockscreen on kit kat. I threw in a little snack as well. Enjoy ;)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] symobay:
i'm achieving 7 hours of screentime as well, but with just 20 of standby. The fact is: your mobile radio signal is just perfect during the whole time!

where are you? and is it always 2g or 3/4g ? or is it switching?

thnx
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MSK1:
Pretty impressive
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Lol. Yes! Perfect. Stayed pretty much in my home area throughout the time. And 2G Only. I have a 'MOBILE' WiFi Router from Vodafone. So I have WiFi ANYWHERE I am! ALL THE TIME :D Battery Life is pretty good too for a 1100mAh battery. Can stay up to 10 hrs of regular internet surfing. :)

See my Router here. It's 21 Mbps speed. HSPA. Can take up to 10 devices :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] denski101:
Wow what a coincidence. I thought the battery stats were so freakishly similar, I'm using the same set up, same network, just a different router. Siamese battery brother from another mother :p
[Galaxy Note 3 General] symobay:
i got a similar mifi but i prefer using the internal simcard of my note 3. dont like to have a second device in my pocket emitting gsm and wifi waves near my balls ;))

however, good solution to save battery.

but what i meant is: if with the same setup as yours (regardless if mobile wifi router oder home wifi router) your gsm signal was as bad as mine (even if not using the 3g connection of the phone) - i hardly have any green in my gsm-bar of the batterStats - then your standby time were much lower than 60hours dont you think?

im just trying to find out how to optimize my battery furthermore to come close to your 60 hours of standby. my screentime is good (with 7-8 hours on wifi im happy) and i dont have any apps draining much battery, almost NO wakelocks and so on... So i guess the bad signal is the culprit. but THAT much? what you think my friend?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] weeka89:
Can i ask what are the recommended options for synapse :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] stanley08:
Trust me! Bad signal can cause battery to drain faster. But dude. Check Android OS. It drains like 11 to 20% these days instead of the regular 6-7% which is bad. That's why phones don't sleep well these days. Out of those 60 hours, Android OS kept my phone awake for about 4 hours. Because BBS reported nothing else. So Android OS is the culprit. It's even sad to know that it is not fixed in KitKat yet. The available builds now still have this issue.

BottomLine, No wakelock... Because Android OS is at work :p

Try -50mv on all small cores. Should be stable on all phones. If you are ambitious, -75 :) And maybe make LED brighter too :)

What router you got bro? :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] weeka89:
OK I decided to take a shortcut and use set cpu and uninstall synapse and used Dr. Ketan's toolbox mod to remove bloatware and tweak build.prop hope to get better battery usage because today I had 12 hours on battery with screen time of only 4 hours :S
[Galaxy Note 3 General] AldrichDSaints:
I Greenify all downloaded apps, because I don't have the battery monitor pro. I also Greenified the system apps but I didn't include the Messaging, Contacts, Phone, Music and the Touchwiz Launcher. All apps that requires push notification must not be Greenified.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] methoddon1:
to tell you the truth, I don't even know what you're talking about. I've been using vn rom for a month, before anything, I'll say, - used to be a mad flashaholic, had to try them all, now I can spot a good rom without even flashing it, all that's left is to flash and run about six cycles. anyway, obviously, the screen is still the main source for battery and always will be. but removing bloatware, Greenifying, freezing with Titanium, using Startup Manager, Location off, Google off does insane job. I get the days on minimum usage (some sync, checking FB, this thread, and two hours of screen on each day), THREE DAYS. heavy use I get 1 day with 8 hours screen on time (no games, I don't play games), and on days that I just do not turn it off basically, like on my day off, I still get 16 hours with 9 screen on. all that on 85% brighteness(more is too bright for me). it's all in the system and has nothing to do with brightness. there will never be a fix for screen, only battery with more capacity changes that. but once you ROOTED, think about why you got rooted, to make clock blue? then enjoy the clock.