yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Moto G General] ReganH22:
Since a lot of people seem to not want to click on the link that was posted earlier, I'll paste this part of the info. This should keep some of you from constantly checking for the update. You'll get the update soon enough, just enjoy the phone. Not even a week ago some of us, myself included, we're upset because we didn't even have the phone. Just be patient.

"Rollouts are conducted in phases. Typically they start at 1% of devices for around 24 - 48 hours; we watch the return rates and resulting device checkins and error reports (if any), and make sure nothing looks wrong before sending it to more. Then typically it goes to 25%, 50%, 100% over the course of a week or two.

What the percentages mean is that when your device checks in, it has a 1% chance (for example) of being offered the OTA. If it doesn't (randomly) get an offer, it will never get an offer until the next batch.

IOW, once your device checks in and gets turned down, that's it until the next batch. Mashing on the "check for updates" button just causes your device to check in again, and get automatically turned down again. Think about how that makes your device feel! WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE THINK OF THE PHONES?!

That said, once the new batch does start, hitting that button does give you a new roll of the dice -- but once. Since devices usually only check in for system updates every 24 hours (I think? Certainly on a many-hours basis) this can get you your shot sooner than it would happen on its own.

So, mash away. :) Just be patient, and mashing on it more often than once or twice a day isn't going to gain you anything.

Edit: also, keep in mind that this isn't first-come/first-served. You're not racing other devices to get your slot in the current batch, or something."
[Moto G General] creeve4:
My wife's 16GB US GSM Moto G just got the OTA. We purchased the phone unlock from Amazon.com.
[Moto G General] SamsungAdmire:
D-did you pull it?:cowboy::confused:
[Moto G General] creeve4:
Unfortunately I was not able to. She installed it before she told me about it... Failure on my part, I should have warned her but I didn't realize it was available until she mentioned to me that she had installed it.
[Moto G General] Indigoreli:
:C asdddsff..
[Moto G General] plmiller0905:
I'm not trying to be rude... But maybe people should stop posting comments like "I got the update" after they than already installed the update or have no clue how to pull the update...
[Moto G General] SickBeast:
Do you guys know if I can flash the US retail rom on my Canadian Koodo Moto g with the bootloader locked? I want the update asap.
[Moto G General] aeonlinux:
Pretty ridiculous people post about updating and not post the OTA for others. This is XDA, not a chat room. Seriously...
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Anyway how about a little review for the kitkat possibly with some screenshots and camera click....would be appreciated:banghead::D
[Moto G General] shaftenberg:
This brings me slowly to the point to stop willing to share any mods doing for the Moto, really.

Not wanting to sound rude also, and no, I don't want to start any discussion if I can or can't wait - sure I can wait, but this is getting ridiculous. This is the first time I experience this here at XDA and the only explanation is, that most of Moto G users are new here or new to Android.

Normally we wait a few minutes and the updates will go round here... sigh.
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Oh nooo...its even worse with my current phone This lill thing is on jellybeans with no proper rom or developer support whatsoever...I don't want that happening with my next phone (moto g)
[Moto G General] 903tex:
People just need to chill not that many people even gotten the ota and I'm 100% sure somebody will post it for others in due time.

Let's be glad that we have a new device and already have the latest android coming than other device priced twice the money...
[Moto G General] RejhGadellaa:
As I already pointed out earlier (although i can't seem to find the post? huh?) this process describes how GOOGLE does it. Google != motorola, so they're basically no way of telling how they handle the ota. But I guess clearing the Google Services Framework doesn't do much either, since we can't be sure if motorola uses it. If they do, they'll probably use the same method as Google, thus rendering this method pretty much useless (and will only cause bugs in android and third party apps)

:)
[Moto G General] sicembaylor:
Look, I'll post it if I ever actually get the OTA. I should have been one of the first people to get it (pre-ordered US 16GB version direct from Motorola) but nadda.

I did try to the framework trick which did nothing, but now I'm worried I may have screwed something up that would prevent me from getting the update.
[Moto G General] t-bon3:
Well let's see if I can get it. I've flashed the stock US retail ROM onto my UK Moto G, removed the SIM and installed 'OpenVPN connect' to get a US IP address.

Force stop and clear data on Play Services and Play Store done.

Play Store shows Taylor Swift albums priced in US$ so it must think i'm in the right region!

At the moment 'System Updates' is showing 'Your device is up-to-date!'

Any other suggestions on how to get it to see the update?
[Moto G General] Lyokacanthrope:
Wait. The device will get the update eventutally. This is just how update roll outs work.
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
So... I'm not the only one thinking that the people that had the update are noobs to the world of Android... well, someone needs to teach them dump the files or at least make a nand backup?

I want CM11 in this phone :)

Anyway, it's 2:09am in my timezone, so i'm still checking if I can get the update, even using *#*#CHECKIN#*#* I don't get much results...
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
A wise person once said ....Every Pro was a real Noob once....
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
Yeah, I understand, my noobness began on the times of the SLVR L7... anyway, let help this people to unlock their bootloaders, help them how to install CWM and teach them of to make a full backup?
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Haha By the time they learn that Android 5 would be released

P.S I am a noob too
[Moto G General] DaveinAsia:
Give it a couple days. If my US-sourced model gets lucky and no one has uploaded the file yet, I'll be happy to post it.

Sent from my Moto G
[Moto G General] kaliberx:
As shaftenberg said, if someone really has the OTA...just post it. And thats me saying : Otherwise you dont have it..point.

Its said enough times how to pull it. (And last OTA got pulled as far i know with these Ways)

btw RejhGadellaa, Motorola = Google, or did you missed the News ?.
[Moto G General] nupi:
Did anyone ask Moto directly for the OTA URL? Seems like they should have some interest to have knowledgeable people (who are also capable of fixing their device if something goes wrong) beat on it before they roll it out widely...
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Try asking Punit Soni on google plus? He is Software VP of moto and very active there
[Moto G General] -=bhf=-:
It's not that easy. It's like the new people smartphone, so there is a goot chance, that folks who actually get the update simply are not able to pull it, because they are not tech savvy enough to do it. Quite frankly, I don't get the rush. I don't even have mine in use, so i couldn't care less about the kitkat-update.
[Moto G General] swirly05:
Could someone point me in the direction of the latest firmware for AT&T U.S plz, Thanks
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
All the firmware dumps are here: http://sbf.droid-developers.org/phone.php?device=14
[Moto G General] King p1n:
Exactly people are crying over people not pulling the ota...

Somebody will post it...its only just started rolling out.
[Moto G General] michalurban:
Great! .) But why is this (udating only in some countries) happening? I know its not unusual, but im still curious ...
[Moto G General] Rusty!:
Probably because at the launch event they said that it would launch with 4.4 in the US, since they brought the US launch forward they're trying to make good on that promise.
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
How many people has the OTA now? Wives, dogs, cats, brothers doesn't count... I'm talking about XDA users... Who has the update?
[Moto G General] fubag:
US 16gb not yet....
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
Nexus S not yet.... SERIOUSLY! Why is this thread full of spam? Jeez, don't post anymore useless information please, thanks.
[Moto G General] fubag:
this Section is labeled "General", I'm posting a "general" update, if you have an issue, feel free to leave the thread? Don't be an ass.
[Moto G General] miklosbard:
Sorry, for being an ass, I don't have any specific problem with you, just don't see any information/update in your post regarding the case, and it is like the 10th now. I would call a post "update" if it had anything new, but right now the common case is that people don't have the updated software yet, or don't know how to get it up here. I wanted to inform you, that your post had no use for the community in my opinion, but you are right, I could have chosen a better way to explain myself.
[Moto G General] RejhGadellaa:
No I didn't miss that but Google and Motorola still act like independent companies. Motorola is just receiving money (and of course guidelines) from Google but they can do pretty much what they want. In fact, they HAVE to (be able to) do what they want or the whole deal would never have been approved by US and EU regulators. People need to realize that these companies are two different things. /edit: at the moment they are

Anyway, my point was that I'm pretty sure that moto's updates don't come from Google servers. Which means we don't know how their updates process works. Could be similiar, could be different*. We don't know if motorola uses the same 'phone id' (the one from the article that gets reset with a factory reset and/or by clearing google framework services). But I do agree that either way, clearing it will most probably do nothing but potentially break stuff since google's servers think you did a factory reset.

I have a feeling that motorola offered the update to (selected) carriers outside of the US and is waiting for their approval? I know most manufacturers work like this. There is of course the Nexus-line, where the update comes straight from Google (instead of via carriers) but I'm not sure if this is for all phones you buy without a contract? Also, situations may vary per country?

Anyways. This is getting(?) off topic. Maybe we should start this discussion on a different thread and figure out how the whole moto/google situation really works. And how they (moto) handles updates.

"nothing yet in holland" /edit: :P
[Moto G General] ViperExhibit:
Edit

Edit - oops wrong forum, sorry!
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
How is this related to 4.4.2 ? Please stay on topic.
[Moto G General] obvious:
OK, someone make a script to wipe google services framework + anything else that might be relevant (a sort of pseudo factory reset) and check for updates, Slightly beyond my capabilities.
[Moto G General] jmoore4294:
That won't do any good. May do more harm than good actually. Just wait and be patient. Once someone gets the update who has adb setup and can get a URL from a logcat then we can all have it. Or wait until you get the update yourself.
[Moto G General] obvious:
Hang on, getting KK would do more harm how exactly? ;) And don't link me to the google guy telling us not to do it cos it might confuse some apps.
[Moto G General] jmoore4294:
OK. It probably won't hurt anything, but clearing the cache doesn't reset anything on Motorola's side to force the update to your phone. All we can do is wait for the time being.

Believe me. I can't wait for KitKat on the G. I love KitKat on my GPE One and after using it for a while JB looks ugly and feels clunky.
[Moto G General] obvious:
Why do you think this? To be clear, it's wiping data, not clearing cache
[Moto G General] krypto16:
This thread is funny...there are a lot of Noobs on the Moto G (nothing wrong with that we were all noobs at one point). I am not a dev or anything as such but have been around Android for a while and know my way around modding/theming/etc, Kitkat will come and so will the devs building ROMs but all in due time. The phone is good and cheap so Devs will pick it up eventually...they just want to wait for things to play out a little...plus most of them just spent money on the N5 so they have no bank for a cheap phone like this one. Be patient for Kitkat....it will come...and be patient for devs, they will come too.
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
The most funny part is that we still want KitKat...
[Moto G General] mikereidis:
Yeah, me too, I'm not concerned about apps because I use my G for development, not as a phone, and I don't run more than a few anyway and I regularly flash ROMs and factory reset too.

My understanding is that clearing Google Services Framework changes the Android ID which is a large part (but not all) of a factory reset. So, yea, some apps that don't expect Android ID to change could get confused. AFAICT, no "damage" beyond that; maybe you'll have to re-install or clear those apps.

Somebody, somewhere, in the history of Android, MUST have created a script to automate this on other phones. I find it hard to believe otherwise.

I asked on the other thread and still haven't seen an answer: Does the OTA appear in /cache ? Do we know it's file name yet ?

And as a reminder to all, if you get the OTA notification, DO NOT apply it. It will be deleted right after and then we'll all groan again at another person who says "I got it ! How can I help ?" And we say "Dagnabit, it's gone now, you silly person !"
[Moto G General] dfishman:
Should I root, in hopes of capturing the OTA for you guys?

:laugh::confused:
[Moto G General] plmiller0905:
This is the Moto G forums...

sent from my Moto.......G
[Moto G General] tillaz:
no need for a script to clear data for "Google services framework " its simple

goto

settings/apps

swipe to the left until you are on the "all" tab, find Google services framework, select it and press the clear data button
[Moto G General] aaopt:
That allows you one extra roll of the dice. Presumably the point of the script would be to keep rolling until you win.
[Moto G General] mikereidis:
Sure there is, I don't want to do it manually 50 times.

I'm realizing now that there ARE reasons why they want OTAs to be random, and I'm sure they don't want 100s of people banging their servers.

But if someone is running Linux or "knows what they're doing" and can convert this to run on the phone, here's the script I figured out:

#!/bin/bash
while true; do
adb shell am kill com.google.android.gsf
adb shell pm clear com.google.android.gsf
sleep 50
adb shell "ps | grep -i -e google -e gsf"
adb shell "ls -R /cache"
adb shell input keyevent 66
adb shell input keyevent 66
done

It waits 50 seconds between retries.

The "keyevent" lines assume you have the OTA settings setting highlighted so simple "Enter" will select it.

I'm seeing nothing so far after a few dozen 5 second retries on my Canadian Koodo/Telus device. I guess I can try flashing US.
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
First screenshots of 4.4 and memory available after boot.

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B8iFCQwq5OCBb3RhNlhsSUtmVWc&usp=sharing

Not mines - courtesy of a reddit user (from here)
[Moto G General] gandalf2013:
Sorry, this was a mistake, my wife gave me a phone call on friday that the 4.4 Update is available, but it was the minor update withe the GPS fix :(
[Moto G General] obvious:
I've tried to adapt this to a windows .bat file

:start
adb shell am kill com.google.android.gsf
adb shell pm clear com.google.android.gsf
rem ping 1.1.1.1 once for 50 seconds instead of wait
ping 1.1.1.1 -n 1 -w 50000 > nul
adb shell "ps | grep -i -e google -e gsf"
adb shell "ls -R /cache"
adb shell input keyevent 66
adb shell input keyevent 66
goto start

..but I'm not sure what I should have on the phone screen where a simple 'enter' will suffice to check for OTA.

EDIT: *#*#checkin#*#* maybe but that doesn't seem to work
[Moto G General] antiquezip:
[MENTION=3575078]mikereidis[/MENTION]

I've got the OTA on my phone. Wanna helps? :highfive:
[Moto G General] sicembaylor:
I talked to a Motorola agent online just now. I asked when I might expect KitKat since I'm in the United States....was told that the rollout was happening in "blocks" but specific information as to when I might get the update was not available....presumably since they would have no way of knowing what 'block' my device is in.
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
And I think it's safe to assume that by blocks = states.
[Moto G General] Rusty!:
Blocks does not mean states, it's just groups of IMEI numbers.
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
Then it's safe to assume that a proxy won't work.

And maybe stretching this a bit further, neither changing the ROM of the phone (like putting US ROM in European devices)

Are these assumes correct [MENTION=2277920]Rusty![/MENTION]
[Moto G General] debaj:
I checked the request and response via Charles, and the updater service sends a lot of information to the Motorola servers about the phone, like IMEI number, ROM version, locale, home network, phone number, MAC address and so on, much like all the data it can extract from the phone without any unwanted privacy issues. So I guess tricking the system would be much harder than simply changing ROMs and spoofing only some of these data.
[Moto G General] sharan2036:
The roll out of android updates always happens by batch of imei numbers so i see no use of flashng us version of rom and getting the update cuz your imei would not be in motorola's update server currently.
[Moto G General] sicembaylor:
See, that surprises me. I figured 'blocks' are 'blocks of states' i.e. regions. For example, New England may get it first...then the mid-atlantic...then the south....midwest...etc. etc. etc.

EDIT: Nevermind, the imei # makes a lot more sense.
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
http://imgur.com/a/KOJAH

Some more screenshots.

This thing is blazing fast on 4.4!
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
[MENTION=2482806]darkeingel[/MENTION] free ram now?

Sent from Samsung Chat
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
453mb :D
[Moto G General] jaspreet997:
Is it better than before?

Sent from Samsung Chat
[Moto G General] darkeingel:
Dunno,

It's 530mb free after reboot.
[Moto G General] SamsungAdmire:
Try opening the play store and scroll all the way down. Then go back up, don't scroll too fast.

Does it lag?
[Moto G General] 903tex:
Lmao it never lagged for me on 4.3
[Moto G General] ztmike:
This Kitkat rollout has got to be the slowest I've ever heard of. U.S GSM Amazon purchase here.
[Moto G General] sam razzy:
How is the battery life on this moto G ? Can someone post the screen on time of this device ?
[Moto G General] fubag:
There's another thread dedicated for that:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2538691
[Moto G General] canky3:
will the moto g get the experience launcher?
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
No, its exclusive to the Nexus 5, but you can download it and install it con the G
[Moto G General] HobsonA:
Come on Motorola let me OTA before I have to leave for the holidays and only have access to dial up level speeds :( I've never seen an OTA take so long to cycle through everyone.

Anyone receive their update today?
[Moto G General] mocsharp:
Could you please provide a screenshot of the UI languages or list all available UI languages with 4.4.2? thanks!
[Moto G General] canky3:
Will it work Luke it works on the nexus 5 or will there be any disadvanteges? And wäre can i download it?
[Moto G General] :
I couldn't wait so I flashed it today but now have some problem..:(
[Moto G General] diego2000x:
Here!
[Moto G General] HobsonA:
Yay! mine just allowed the OTA to happen it should be available to more people now
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
I'M DOWNLOADING THE OTA KIT KAT FOR THE XT1032 RETAIL US!, coming from the XT1032 Telcel Moto G and flashed the Retail US firmware
[Moto G General] ZealotRush:
please dont update, share the ota update.zip for flash thansk
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
I know, I'm not a noob, its 190.09 MB and the worst part is that I have a slow internet connection...
[Moto G General] ztmike:
Just came in on my u.s gsm amazon moto g.
[Moto G General] joel_sinbad:
****! I have the OTA downloaded on my phone but it's not on cache, where is it? Can't find it!
[Moto G General] Deadpool:
Check out this

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=48747077
[Moto G General] lazydesi:
yahoo, just got the OTA update on my phone.

haven't d/l or installed yet.

it's Global GSM model.
[Moto G General] Mjme:
I have the 16Gb US version. Received notification for 4.4 update today. My phone is currently BL unlocked and rooted with CWM. Will I lose root and CWM if I apply the OTA update?

Thanks in advance.
[Moto G General] ztmike:
How do I know if I'm connected to Google services? Before kitkat it would turn blue ..
[Moto G General] michael-jb:
Haven't tested this myself but from what others have reported i believe you would. Instead of doing OTA you could d/l manually and flash via CWM see this thread for more info.

Goto quick settings menu, if connection is orange its not connected.

See this android police post for more info.
[Moto G General] hendykhanh:
Today happly holiday . i also have get update for 4.4 kitkat on Telus/koodo Canada.
[Moto G General] antiquezip:
Now that you felt my pains LOL

Good luck finding the package :)
[Moto G General] CADude:
Just got update on my XT1032 from Amazon.
[Moto G General] nightshack0:
I just got the OTA from the Global GSM version (XT1032) and pulled it from the device in case it's needed after
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] offtohavasu:
I saw over on the international s3 page there is a port for the Note 3 Keyboard with emojis to the S3. I saw there was one built in to Moar. Has anyone come up with a flashable version for our Sprint version?
[Sprint Samsung Galaxy S III] Thebear j koss:
Only for 4.3 deodexed roms. The link in the international forums should work.

Thebe@r'$ G@L@XY- Team Average Joe's Official beta tester
[Motorola Droid RAZR] ackz:
Hello

I have my friend's Razr HD here. The phone cannot boot. When trying to boot normally to the OS, it shows the android loader then resets.

I also tried going to the Recovery Mode, but it also shows the android loader, then it shows a error android loader then resets.

Right now I can only go into the AP FastBoot mode.

What can I do to fix this?

Thanks
[Motorola Droid RAZR] XT910K:
Try flashing another rom, go to stock recovery and wipe all

good luck
[Moto G General] DoobyDroid:
Appy geek reporting Motorola pushing out kit kat 4.4.2 Today For Moto G nothing so far on my 8GB simfree UK t-mob
[Moto G General] lost101:
http://m.androidauthority.com/kitkat-moto-g-326310

Firstly US, people who ordered from motorola.com
[Moto G General] artov:
Only for phones in the US so far, there's no indication when the rest of the world will follow. All they say is 'soon'. But who knows how long that is...
[Moto G General] DoobyDroid:
Oh well at least its deff coming
[Moto G General] Ls777:
I dont seem to have it yet - 16gb US tmobile purchased off amazon
[Moto G General] sicembaylor:
Me either. Same model/carrier only I purchased directly from Motorola.
[Moto G General] davwman:
Amazon us version. No ota yet:(

Moto Gee :-¢
[Moto G General] kenypowa:
For those with 4.4.2 update, is the ART option available? If so, how does it compare to dalvik?
[Moto G General] Lapnis:
as far as i know, motorola in my country announced that our operators already have the new android version for our device, but they have to wait (until something happens, don't remember what, but they didn't mention a specific date) for the release

Sent from my Moto G
[Moto G General] gandalf2013:
OTA Update 4.4 is available for download in Germany

:victory:
[Moto G General] audit13:
Nothing for Telus in Canada.
[Moto G General] SickBeast:
Same thing with Koodo. :(
[Moto G General] Indigoreli:
Nothing in Telcel, México.