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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Opt1kal:
Wondering, can you still flash the firmware through Odin if you've unlocked using CASUAL? Reason I ask is I know it was stated to not use Odin after you've unlocked using CASUAL or you run the risk of hard-bricking the phone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Wynnded:
I suspect that you might be thinking of the warning against using Odin to flash custom ROMs.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RomsWell:
Its because our bootloaders will let u flash anything even if its not for our device. Thats where the brick risk comes in.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Opt1kal:
Yeah, that's what I was thinking.

Ah ok, thank you for the clarification.

Should I flash the firmware after flashing the rom? Or before?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] FUSIBLE:
My only issue is I'm having audio problems. Minor but they are there. When I use either players (Power amp or stock) certain parts of any track sound muffed or low. But I'm sure a fix will come up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
Flash the rom, power off and then enter Odin mode. I would suggest Philz cwm recovery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] andrep182:
Just did and you're right, it's back to be functional again =) got me scared for a sec
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Opt1kal:
Ok...I had to run out of the house to run an errand after getting the rom flashed on. Seems to running OK right now. I'll flash the firmware when I get back. Right it's still got the team win recovery on it.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] steveman09:
Well just rebooted out of no where again so no luck here with the new firmware :( this is so disappointing back to 4.1.2 it looks like
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] rabbid10:
Flash it again.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bucwylde23:
I was getting reboots and force closes but I switched over to krowleys sophisticated stock ROM and its been perfect. Maybe give that a shot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] FUSIBLE:
The other thing is now it shows less storage as well. 9 gigs is already used up and says I only have 1 gig. I had a lot apps installed before. Now I can't install some of the apps I had from before.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nh97103:
I had that same thing happen. My files were still on the phone, but I couldn't view them unless I was in recovery. I'm not sure why. I ended up restoring back to B21, transferring all my files on to my computer, re-flashing this ROM, and then moving them back. It's a little bit of a pain, but I couldn't find the files so there was no choice.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] flip06:
nope doesnt ask me that.

i looked at my device manager, it shows "unknown device" on my USB port. i udated the drivers, says the best driver for the device is already installed. still does nothing =\

it doesnt connect to the PC, like the pc doesn't recognize the phone at all, and with that odin doesn't pick it up either.

i may just have to wait to use Le GF's windows 8 laptop here in a couple days. i dont mind the wait, its just a hassle when i cant even connect i to my own laptop.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ckburks:
Mine is completely apecrap most of the time also when trying to connect to the computer. Works great for a couple times and then nothing. Btw... Throwing the laptop does not help.

Sent from Samsung Note II
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] jrbxx7:
Have u tried unistalling all the drivers and starting over? Worked for me before.

TaPpEd from my nOtEwOrThY N2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] puritan007:
It was not titanium back up related. I wiped delve cache plus cache plus factory reset data system wipe all the times each. I didn't even run set up after install did nut restore anything. I still get this when opening gallery. Same issue of downloads failing too. Tried three rooms official nephilim and sophisticated 4.3 same issues on all. Most current cwm most current radio flashed with Odin. Any ideas?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] steveman09:
I just flashedf over the sophisticated rom, so far very responsive hope it stays stable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
I'm still stable no issues at all and only 1 fc 20 hours in, wanam send to not have any effect, maybe you should use titanium to remove klms agent...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] puritan007:
Also all roms md5 verified. Tried installing Phil's recovery and re Odin radio then wipe wipe wipe install still same two problems. Gallery and downloads are broke.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nh97103:
Well, that was my second random reboot after installing the latest firmware. That, on top of how many apps have force closed on me with this ROM, are forcing me to go back to B22. I really wanted to stay on stock for a while. Oh, well. :(

Conclusions after 3 days: This ROM/update is not stable.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ramiss:
I'm inclined to agree. I've tried everything on this thread and still have reboots, and Touch Wiz just FC'd on me :(

Sent from the Note II
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] athack:
How do you rollback twrp?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bmerrill63:
The newest firmware is in .7z format. I verified that MD5 matches prior to extraction, but MD5 does not match after extracting, is this typical?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nbock01:
Used cwm and twrp to install... random reboots and fcs everywhere as far as the eye can see. Wifes phone is stock and no root. She has no random reboots and uptime of since she took ota like 4 days or something. My guess it something it tied into android os/tw for knox and its getting pissy.

Thanks to all of the devs for their hard work on this. Hopefully they can get it ironed out.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RomsWell:
Md5s are created using the entire file. By unzipping it you are changing the size and the md5 will change. As long as it matches before you unzip yer ok.

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Just google twrp. Ull find the site and the build archive. They have flashables rdy. Just flash in your current recovery.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] rclar144:
Battery life is UNBELIEVABLE!!!

Beans OFFICIAL 4.3
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] cyberma007:
I did dirty flash , maybe that is why! but I have constant crash, reboots and locks. Will try to do clean install later, when I get a chance
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] puritan007:
I I've decided it's my sd card? Going to try to flash then remove sd.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] steveman09:
Running sophisticated rom 1.0 jb 4.3 now rock solid no issues yet
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] rabbid10:
I've had a few random reboots, but nothing like the leak. I think the battery life and the 4.3 lockscreen are worth it though.

If anyone wants to try figure out what's causing the issues, I'd be happy to pull logs when it happens. So far though, the reboots haven't been reproducible.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
Flash the rom first, then odin mode and the firmware from the op.

I'll detail what I did and it seems to work fine, still haven't had a problem.

I downloaded the latest Philz cwm, the deodex version and firmware from the op, extracted the firmware.

Flashed Philz cwm, rebooted to recovery.

Wiped for a new rom using the button labeled as such.

Installed

Used the power off option

Powered up to odin mode

Flashed the firmware with the pc version of odin 3.07

Reboot into the rom, profit.

Titanium backup to uninstall the bloat and klms agent.

Installed xposed and wanam, did basic changes to the rom and battery theme, like small am/pm, enable screen off for messages, power menu, things like that.

Phones been up for 2 days and several hours no problems at all.

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Yes it is lol played a game for 4 hours last night and only used like 20 -30% battery.

I'm really liking this rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] rclar144:
Battery holding up well!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] stueycaster:
I'm back on my old rom. 4.3 wasn't ready to release. They just wanted to sell some Galaxy Gears. They're going to have to fix it before I try again. See yall.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Deejaydark:
nothing is happening...

i downloaded the rom..flashed rom.. reboot.. flashed the modem and wifi thru mobile odin... now im still looking at my boot screen... wtf did i do wrong?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Wynnded:
You haven't waited long enough, or more likely the use of mobile Odin. It's been talked about that it's a very unreliable method. Using a PC is frequently the suggested way to try to minimize issues.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
Did you use twrp or Philz cwm?

Sounds like you're using the latest twrp like I was and the rom didn't flash completely.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] flip06:
just be sure to make a nandroid backup before doing anything ;)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
Maybe you're doing it wrong...

Works fine here, doubt they would release a buggy os just to sell a new device, they're not Microsoft. Lol
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RomsWell:
No they totally are lol. None of the 4.3 updates are really ready and they did push it to just to support gear. The entire Galaxy series is suffering the 4.3 blues. But im sure a update will be out shortly after new year and I bet it will officially add some note 3 features.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] JTProuhet:
Anyone having problems with mms? I can send them but the person isn't receiving them, and I'm not receiving theirs. I've about had enough. I think I'm going back to b22
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] thisguyeh:
Do you have the entire Galaxy series? I know people with s3 ,4 , note 2 who is on 4.3 and had 0 issues. Don't mean to be rude but don't speak for everyone .
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RomsWell:
No you did mean to be rude. Go ahead and google it. Numerous articles on the subject. And im sure your 3 friends cover the entire user base? This ota is garbage and that is fact lol.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
Working fine for me, maybe I'm just l lucky for a change.

Usually I'm the one going dhjdhdgdjejegdgsg work! Lol

What if flashing the firmware from the previous version and then flashing the new one is causing a conflict, has anyone tried flashing the 4.1 firmware and then trying the new one yet?

Or

Maybe try flashing the firmware again before booting the rom for the first time?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] dtroup64:
I've now been on this "stock" 4.3, Nephilium, and Sophisticated. All 4.3 Roms.

I have had ZERO issues. No random reboots.

None.

So it's his three friends... plus me. :)
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] thisguyeh:
And I assume you own the entire galaxy series.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mlin:
Yes, so many people are experiencing reboots and FCs but somehow he's doing it wrong.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] RomsWell:
Dont be "that guy" go ahead and spend 5 minutes on google and defeat your own argument.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mlin:
You realize Samsung did pull their 4.3 updates for a few devices due to bugs, right? Just because you know "a few people" not having issues, this can hardly be considered a representative sample of the millions of devices Samsung has to update. Food for thought. Software updates to such a large user base need to be tested against nearly an infinite number of possible uses to make sure the software is stable for the masses. The few people not having issues likely fit into the possible scenarios of apps/usage that Samsung tested. Perhaps Samsung does not appreciate the level of testing necessary to have a stable OS on several million devices...
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] MarkOden:
I did the same and I am experiencing random reboots. Please let us know what happens when you run a clean install for a bit. :rolleyes:

Sent from my SCH-I605
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
He possibly could be, so many people are stable, I wasn't trying to be a stick in the mud about it, but if you want to go there... Have fun.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] cyberma007:
I installed the new modem firmware with mobile Odin and reinstalled the ROM with CWM, cleared all cache ,so far it has be stable. GPS takes a little time to lock
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] thisguyeh:
Im not trying to be that guy or am I saying its the best ota. Im just saying just because some are having issues doesn't mean everyone is. You said the entire galaxy series like every single person is having issues. I'm done with this argument. Merry Christmas everyone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ramiss:
Ok, so I re cleared all caches and fixed permissions and have not had a reboot or fc since (almost 20 hours).

I'm starting to think that this rom, with the new firmware, is fine, it's just really sensitive to existing or restored app data.

I'm willing to bet that if we wiped everything except sd and "never" restored any apps or data that there wouldn't be any reboots or fc's.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] theaustins513:
I believe all the problems to be hardware related....it's a stretch but....I was having random reboots and I couldn't send exchange email from rooted or unrooted. Verizon sent me a replacement and I didn't root my new device before I installed the system update. Now no reboots at all and I can send email from exchange with the stock email app.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bucwylde23:
No its the ROM I'm fairly certain. The bugs just need to be worked out by beans which I'm sure will happen.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] donnyp1:
I tend to disagree. But I dont use alot of apps, never restore ANY data of anything, and always format internal before every installation. I ran 95+ hours with no reboots and the only fc was the xda app. Bonestock, this is very very stable. How you install rom, the apps you instsll, and any data from anything you restore, are more likely the cause of issues. I also believe odin the firmware may cause issues. Im yet to odin, tried all 4.3 roms, and all work just fine for me. Maybe my phone likes 4.3? Who knows, but its a stretch to say its "unstable" when most users add variables to the rom that can cause instability. Naturally, this is my own opinion, but ive flashed over 10,000 times for numerous phones and platforms. Seen alot.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] theaustins513:
How do explain the same setup on two different devices that are supposedly the same hardware but the stock RIM works on one but not the other? As soon as I figure out how to root this device on 4.3 then I'll retest this RIM and report back. Can anyone point me to a thread that explains how to root once you've accepted the 4.3 OTA?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] bucwylde23:
Because there are other ROM's based off the same OTA that are completely stable - no reboots or FC's by basically anyone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] donnyp1:
Need to read the other threads. All report some fcs or reboots. More than likely restoring noncompatible app data. This rom is solid as is. More than likely its users error. Goibg from 4.1.2 to 4.3 is a big jump, ESPECIALLY when restoring data.

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And Merry Christmas everyone.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] chelper:
I am one that did not restore anything, and formatted everything except external SD. I still had random fc's and reboots with the newest firmware. Then I switched to another 4.3 and haven't had one fc or reboot. I don't know what to say other than it's not app data being restored that is causing the instabilities.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mlin:
The fact that my phone reboots when running the initial setup suggests that bone stock this is NOT "very, very stable." Our standards are pretty low of this is what we consider a stable build.

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This is a joke, right? User error?!? 4.1.2 --> 4.3?!? Lol! Gimme a break.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] donnyp1:
So based on "your experience", I can say that the rom is rock solid based on 95 hours plus with no reboots? Ive seen several people go over 40 hours with no reboots. I still think it could be many things other than rom if its rebooting on install. May not have wiped all partitions, recovery issues, who knows. But to blame it all on rom and say its unstable is harsh. Many are reporting excellent usage. Maybe its just your phone. All 4.3 roms are perfectly stable on my phone, and I never odin'd the firmware. Some its worked fine, others have had issues. Too many variables to flash this to blame the rom.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] pool_shark:
Deleted, sorry, wrong thread.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Ohh_Trenton:
I can speak from my personal experience 4.3 is very stable for me ever since I debloated a ton of useless crap, which I'm convinced whatever I deleted solved whatever issues you guys are having.

I'm running on 2 days with not a single freeze or random reboot. No odin. Philz Recovery. Stock kernel. Awesome battery life. I can rock stock with Xposed for a while. I won't go back to 4.1 and I won't use aosp. If you don't want problems do something about it. It shouldn't have to be this way but it is. I will admit I am sick of Samsung/Verizon and the damn games. Possibly my last Samsung device but I am satisfied and (hopeful) of one more and our last update to KK.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mlin:
Because this is Samsung's OTA then if the difference in stability is hardware related then by definition this is a ROM issue. Samsung knows what components they put in these phones. They should have at least tested the software on the different hardware combos to assure stability and compatibility across all iterations of the Note 2
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] sshafranko:
Could also be that the kernel doesnt play well with your phone. Depending on the kernel mods done to the included kernel and the bin # of your chip. When I first picked up the TMO N3 (unlocked boot loader) and I flashed one of the first kernels built my phone was fc and rebooting left and right. It would also sometimes reboot 2 or three times on its own before settling on the lockscreen. It took a few builds for the kernel devs to figure out that the lower bin chips needed some special care to work properly. Higher voltages, boot at stock clock, etc...once it was all figured out its been smooth as heck since. Not sure if this is the issue some are experiencing but just throwing it out there according to my experience with 4.3. It seems to be very sensetive compared to 4.1.2. De bloating is a whole other issue I found out the hard way. So many apps are tyed together like MyMagazine for example is tied to Messaging, Watch on, Email, and a couple others. If you freeze or remove any of them you get force closes all over the place.

Give it time it will all get worked out. You can sit on the side lines and wait for it to all be stable and ironed out or you can help out and be a part of the learning process if you have the time. Your choice. Anyway hope it all comes together for you.

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[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] mlin:
Um, when people take the OTA from Verizon none of those partitions get wiped. So, that's not a good reason for the different experiences. In addition, since when is making it a whole 40 hours without a reboot considered stable? Your comments are enabling and encourage Samsung to continue to release updates that are poorly vetted. Read my comment above about it bring "just my phone."

Anyhow, we all have our opinions and level of standards and I'm just going to leave it at that. Good night and happy holidays.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ramiss:
This alone proves that this rom has issues.

Sent from the Note II
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] fallen00sniper:
Still haven't had a issue with my install, I've removed some bloat mainly apps that Verizon includes and the last knox app that was present, Google plus junk and have xposed wanam running.

This is by far the smoothest rom I have downloaded on xda since my HTC rezound.

Battery life has been insanely good and I'm considering pushing a little further and finding more xposed modules to try.

For anyone to say it is unstable, may need to read what others have tried with success as I did and try all the possible methods instead of arguing like children, this thread is for figuring out what needs to be done to make this better for everyone or have since of you forgotten that?

Beans, Trenton and the others that make our roms Thank you.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] donnyp1:
Dont post positive things bro, this rom is totally unstable, samsung has no clue what they were doing, and verizon turned it into a nightmare for everyone. On purpose.

That was all sarcastic, my experience mirrors yours. We either got lucky or didnt screw it up.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ramiss:
Which 4.3 rom did you switch to that was more stable?

I'm asking so I have an alternative.

Sent from the Note II
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] donnyp1:
Try sophisticated. Same as ota but debloated. Very very stable imo
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] brandonros:
Does anyone know if these random reboot issues have been happening with the stock OTA 4.3? I'm considering manually installing and debloating myself. Aside from the reboots, my gapps process keeps failing when trying to sync my bookmarks so I can't restore them.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] nbock01:
My wifes and and my assuron replacement phone both are stock 4.3 no root and no random rebbots. Even mine after restoring/installing a ton of apps fromd the market. My guess is they have system servixes or something looking for those knox apps and is causing the instability in the systems that we are seeing.

The last wipe I did was everything that I could including ext sd. No titanium resotre either, everything freash from market.

And I was having random reboots in about 8 hours. Flipping through app draw was enough to cause random reboot.

The only thing that I am unable to verify is was it a was hardware issue <old phone to new phone> or stock vs modified.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] Deetari:
Been running this rom since it came out, and it seems that the only times I've experienced reboots (which is unfortunately quite frequently) are when the phone connects to the Play store and checks for updates for apps. Mind you, I think it only reboots when it actually finds an app with an update. If no apps have updates, the phone keeps chugging along.

I've only noticed this because I'm overseas at the moment, where I have no cell service. Phone has yet to reboot in daily use, where it has no wifi or data connection, but it reboots fairly often once I'm on a wifi connection. Whenever it comes back from a reboot, I've got updates waiting to be installed.

Tried disabling auto-update, but it doesn't stop the phone from checking for updates anyway, so the only way I can stop it from connecting to the play store is by having no internet connection.

Wish I could offer more help, but that's about all I can say Ive observed so far.

Things applied to phone:

12/20 4.3 Official Rom + Firmware

12/23 4.3 Updated Official Firmware + Philz CWM

I should note that my phone has pretty much always been stock rooted, but that I did have some of the very first bloatware apps (from 4.1) frozen in Titanium Backup way back when. Since I like dirty flashing my stock upgrades, those frozen apps have carried over. I suppose I could try unfreezing everything later, but that sounds pretty annoying.

Edit: I wonder if this can be tested by just setting up a new google account and setting that as the one used by the play store? As long as no apps are downloaded on that account and bloatware is frozen, the play store should never find anything to update. Hell, maybe you can even just decline the play store agreement on the dummy acvount? Lol. I'd mess with it, but I'm still overseas and it's difficult to do anything.