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[Galaxy Note 3 General] JJEgan:
MediaTek are not Samsung .

IMEI you already have the information .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] oopeteroo:
yeah i know, but the imei is linked to a real galaxy note 3 lol

got a reply from them. They couldnt tell if its a fake because they couldnt tell if the information from the app i used is correct.....

is there other way to tell if its fake or not ? or use another app ?

im getting so pissed lol

can anyone with the n9006 send me screenshots of the real one using https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=org.vndnguyen.phoneinfo
[Galaxy Note 3 General] schizo666:
i believe that samsung only used qualcomm and Exynos processors on their phones.

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apparently, the IMEI can be copied from one phone to another without physical contact whatsoever. the person who want to copy it just needs to know the IMEI and use it as his own.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ebs512:
I had purchased a note 3 on swappa last week. It arrived in the mail but when I put my sim card from my g2 in it, there was no data. No sim card came with the phone but all necessary accessories did. The box says made in China and I have been having issues connecting my note 3 to lte when I'm inside my home but when I'm outside no issues. I just found out the version I bought is a Sprint phone as all the paperwork came in the box but now to come find out tonight my version is a Xenyos version (n900p) so maybe its the custom ROM I flashed from the sprint note 3 development section. I'm going to try a specific ROM from the n900p section and see if that fixes my connection issues because I never had LTE issues inside my home before and to come outside on the patio and have full bars is a bit strange

Edit: I did an imei check and basically the seller on swappa sent me an international note 3 and put a random sprint note 3 book in the box to pass it off as a legitimate n900p when in fact it is an n9005
[Galaxy Note 3 General] arraky:
Good
[Galaxy Note 3 General] shamim shambu:
awesome...........Thanks
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mali246:
Galaxy note 3 korean

Can I use all developments that are done for international version of note 3 for korean note 3? Really need help
[Galaxy Note 3 General] BCANG:
Thankss
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MA7MOD_GSM:
can use n9005 or n9002 custom roms on my n9006 china/wcdma ?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] jh787:
What is?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] DMax99:
The fake note 3!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] refinition:
Kies does seem to be the best way to detect if a note 3 is real or false
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xclub_101:
Yes, but that test means that you have bought the phone and you also have a PC with Kies - when you are in this situation it is possibly late. Most people would like to know of a quick test they can do in a shop or something, ideally BEFORE buying the phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] itsaaronxd:
so #2 is basically the best way of making sure its not fake ? Never owned a note 3 before, and am very skeptical of buying off people.

is there a difference between N9005 and N9006?. I'm looking into buying a note 3, but the guy has just a SM-N900 .. and says its internationally unlocked. opinions?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vernal007:
This is legit i live in the Bahamas and i was curious about the SM-N900 too but it turns out to be real and IS the international version. I came on here to check and make sure it is real.

Apparently they don't name it SM-N9000, they just put SM-N900....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mingkee:
Run Quadrant or Antutu on the phone. Authentic Note 3 should get 20k in Quadrant or 30k in Antutu. In addition, you can look at the device hardware info in Quadrant.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Cyenominerva:
They must be really good if you can't see that it's a fake just by holding it!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Vernal007:
You probably never ran into one you could barely tell the difference
[Galaxy Note 3 General] slimslim:
Just don't buy it from someone who says "oh, didn't notice it doesn't have the s-pen, I must've just lost it... anyways you can get a replacement for like 20 bucks"

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nicholes:
is this phone fake or orignal one?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] KruseLudsMobile:
As for the IMEI number

Sent from my Galaxy Note III; Previous owner/hacker of Galaxy S III, Galaxy Nexus, Droid X, HTC HD2, HTC Touch Pro 2, HTC Tilt, HTC 8525, O2 XDA II, O2 XDA.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] babyshanks:
Seller with 0 rep that just joined..... Best to avoid

Sent from my Wicked V.5 SM-N900T
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Sensamic:
On eBay there are many sellers selling fake ones much cheaper than original ones.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] GedoMazo:
i hate that kind of fake mobile phones , this is really a useful thread ! thanks OP
[Galaxy Note 3 General] deadlyheart4u:
Best way I found was to check camera app for modes

Sent from Samsung Galaxy Note 3.

If you like my post hit thanks .
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
To check for a fake/clone, you guys can use my app Phone INFO to get information.

If a fake one, there are not CSC INFO, as well as Manufacturing Date...

@OP: please add this to the #1 if possible
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nicholes:
Great post!

Every such post should be copied in the first post (responsibility of OP if he cares about the thread and the forum)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] m6ceb:
Thanks

Thanks very much for writing the post, I had no idea there were even fake note 3's around! Great information :laugh:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] aatjitra:
If you understand Bahasa Indonesia, check out this thread in this forum:

http://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/52938b70a2cb175f1a00002f

http://www.kaskus.co.id/thread/528b...core-super-king-copy-sview-spen-keren-cod-oke

The guys is selling fake Note 3 with incredible quality that may people mistakenly recognize it as real Note 3...

Just click the spoiler "Spoiler for Penampakan Real Pic", "Spoiler for Tampilan dalam:" all the way down to open the picture...

This fake device has some real feature such as:

SUPPORT REAL MULTI WINDOW (add application like original Note3)

Support Smart View Flip Cover

Support original battery

Air Gesture

Stylus Pen 5.7 inch ----> Air command ad, can be use for touch/writing/drawing

Fast booting

Palm Motion (3 fingers swipe for screenshot)

Record HD 720p

Support Game HD tested on asphalt 8 set high, real racing 3,Gtracing2 working smooth

Camera 13mp, support face detection,voice control

usb 3.0

22 items in Notification Menu

HD Screen 1280x720 HD IPS touchscreen 320 ppi

original back cover

Support test mode *#0*#

Support samsung app

Support FACE UNLOCK

Support 3G:WCDMA 850/2100MHz (internet Hsdpa , H+)

Support Google play store

Pop Up Play

smart stay

smart pause

Samsung Logo will not be erased after factory reset

Stylush Pen

Air Command

Smart Scroll

Camera 99x shot

Gorilla Glass

BBM READY

JELLY BEAN
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mitka48:
It's a lie. 5.7 inches screen with 1280x720 resolution gives you 257 ppi. Which is not so pleasant for an eye as 320 ppi of i9300 for example.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MemoryController:
I'm about to upgrade from my GT-I9505 to a Note 3(S800). Can I trust the IMEI to not be a copied/spoofed one?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Rulezbecca:
Thanks for the info man!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] babyshanks:
There's no 100 percent way to check because the following can be faked but the best way is to make sure the Imei under the battery is the same as shown in device info. That being said there's no way to know if a spoof has been made based off that number.

Edit : and I'm not sure if this has been said but the best way to test if it is a real note 3 is to simply download and run antutu benchmark. This is assuming you actually get hand on before buying it, otherwise your going to have to go with a reputable dealer. If it scores around 35000 your good. Also antutu has a device info section after you run it that will tell you everything you need to know- assuming you know what to look for.

Sent from my Wicked V.5 SM-N900T
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MemoryController:
Well I'll be buying it in sealed box but I have seen iPhone clones in packaging the same as originals. Is the touch hover feature exclusive for i9500/5/6 and GNote 3? I can spot an AMOLED (had GT-I9000 GT-I9100 and this I9505) so that will help. If I can trust the IMEI on box/under the battery then that's fine too. Is there any phone dialer code exclusive to Note 3? Thanks for your reply.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Well...I got taken...I can't believe it! I've owned my Original Note for 3 years! Now I have a fake GN3...I'm devastated!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
What do you mean? My app show the incorrect info? If yes, sorry about that.

Could you help me by posting screenshots from the app?

Thanks.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Here they are...:(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
This is from Antutu...is my Note 3 real....?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
...here are the Antutu test results...feedback please...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Can you show all the remaining info? (except your IMEI and S/N).

Appears to be weird...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
How about this from Quadrant...? I feel ill...no sleep all night...:mad:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
OMG, this is a fake one.

Look at the fingerprint, it starts with "alps". This is a manufacturer from China.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
I'm sick...
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Can you show me other info from My App.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Give me a few...

I'm literally falling apart right now...I sold my OG Note....I'm stuck with this one...:(
[Galaxy Note 3 General] ionutzm05:
+34000 score in AnTuTu, Full HD screen (also the framework looks identical from the screenshots). If that's a fake.. it's an incredible one.

Later edit : Show us a screenshot with the application drawer. On the fake one (if it's similar to this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnMP4WaEy3Y) it appears different from the original Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Ohh sorry about that

I just want to make sure if it is a fake or not. Or might be due to custom rom? Are you using stock firmware or custom rom?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
All day at work trying to recover...

No...the stock rom is still on it. If I put a custom ROM on it, will it have all the functions of the real Note 3?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
IF it was fake, you can not put a custom rom nor stock rom on it, because these rom were made for real Note 3, so they might brick your phone. Just a think...

Can you show the remaining info from my app. Just to make sure. With just 1 screenshot I can't tell anything for sure
[Galaxy Note 3 General] mailistman:
try to perform download / recovery command. just to get as far as on screen view. don't perform further command. can it do that ? how is it look like ? snap picture & post it here.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Logan3824:
Just tested and I'm good. I didn't even realize there were fakes out! Phew.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
OK...is this good?

...also found this info...http://www.note2forum.com/forum/galaxy-note-3-development/3986-sm-n900-cf-auto-root-chainfire.html
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
It may, in fact, NOT be a fake...the website says its legitimately a Chinese version of the Note 3...for the love of GOD...PLEASE THROW ME A BONE OF HOPE!!!!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MemoryController:
No it's a fake one. VFPv3 and max clock 1 . sth ghz == fake
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Can you explain the link I included - http://www.note2forum.com/forum/galaxy-note-3-development/3986-sm-n900-cf-auto-root-chainfire.html

:crying:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MemoryController:
What do you mean? Build id and product id can be spoofed easily in build.prop. As long as you didn't pay full price of GNote 3 I don't see why you should be crying :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Uhhh...where are you getting all that from?

How do you figure? The website I'm looking at clearly says that the model I have is an SM-N900...a Chinese variant of the Note 3, but a Samsung product. It feels like I'm being steered astray...no offense...:confused:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MemoryController:
Oops that's the Model with exynos. Sorry, my bad.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
I can tell you it is a Fake one 99.99%

Some reasons:

1) From screenshot of my app Phone INFO:

- Device name and Product name does not match with the Model name.

- It does not have CSC information (Product code)

- Doesn't have manufaturing date

- There is a Chinese version of Note 3, but the Model name, Device name and Product name are not the same as yours.

2) From screenshots of Antutu:

- The fingerprint is started with "alps", this is mostly from China.

- The hardware (CPU) of the original N900 should be Universal 5420, not 5410
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MemoryController:
But If it indeed has exynos 5410 then You have a bigger Galaxy S4, no reason to be crying.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Oh...k...semi-crushed...but slightly rebuilt...did you take a look at the website? And can I root and flash a custom ROM?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
I dont know what hardware a Galaxy S4 has, and also don't compare with S4. We are talking about Note 3. And it is a fake Note 3.

[MENTION=511084]dugryce[/MENTION]: As I have said above, you might brick your phone with rooting and flashing custom rom, and even with stock rom, because these file and rom was made for a real Note 3, not for a fake one. You better look in another topic to find what rom does support your phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
I'm lost in finding this phone anywhere on xda...and since I must defer those of you who are more knowledgeable than I....I'm just gonna chalk this up to experience, save up, and buy a genuine GN3, (or 4)...God I feel like an idiot! THANK YOU ALL FOR SUCH GREAT SUPPORT AND ADVICE!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nicholes:
BTW from where did you buy this phone?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Private party...buuuut....its got all the packaging and docs...looks VERY legit...also discovered that I have all the "hover" technology that goes with the GN3 and others....
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
I'm happier than I was yesterday...but, still a bit up in the air about trying to root it...and putting a custom ROM in it...so confused!

:confused:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] MemoryController:
Oh wow that's a well thought out clone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xclub_101:
Does the SPen work (pen, pressure-sensor on tip and button on side)?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] nicholes:
why dont you install some sensor tester apps and find out how many sensor does it have . i still doubt that your phone may not be fake.

BTW from where did you buy this phone?
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Metallic Palladium:
If you ask me the easiest way to spot a fake is to test the display with a completely black image in a dim enough room. If there is the typical LCD backlight (which every LCD will no matter what device or how good) it's 99.99% a fake since 1080p AMOLED is extremely hard for anybody to get hold of except Samsung.

Antutu is developed by the Chinese and there is a possibility even that can be faked.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] gianton:
This is my device, just received it.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Thank you for using my app :)

And congrats, your device is the original Note 3 :)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Problem solved...went to the T-mobile Store...purchased a Note 3...never trust Craigslist again!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Congrats :D

All info are valid now, right? :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Yup...and again, thanks guys!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Fulvian:
These fake phones are actually good bargain if sold at at most a quarter of Note 3 original price. :D
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
That is in fact, the plan tomorrow...:cool:
[Galaxy Note 3 General] avocco:
Now that you have both phones. Could you do a side by side comparison?

Is there anything that really stands out to you? What differences have you noticed? Speed and quality? Thank you in advance for any information provided.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toxicneo:
Note 3 Fake check

Hi,

Today I happened to check a note 3 of my friend's friend. Based on this forum, I did the below checks.

1. Firstly, The phone was N9006.

2. It was way too slow.

3. The display was bad.

4. Tried *#0*#, I was able to see the TSP hovering option

5. No download mode and recovery mode

6. Took a screenshot of the phone. The resolution of the pic was different.

7. Mode option in camera was missing.

I think most of the clones don't have recovery mode,download mode and incorrect resolution. It's a good way to check these before you buy a phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
Use my app Phone INFO to check.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] webjunky:
got myself a 3day's old second hand Note3 , i installed antutu for playstore on it and did the test , score was over 34k , mtk cpu's only get max 15k if i'm correct.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Emil5:
good to know
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dugryce:
Unfortunately I bought it off Craigslist. I took it into the T-mobile Store to get my replacement...they looked at it and were amazed at how identical it was to the real Note...I mean spot on in every detail. Then they put it in recovery mode - STRAIGHT CHINESE!!! Anyway, someone wants to trade me a genuine Galaxy S4 f our it today at 3:30...I might do it, and give it to my wife for her LG L9...

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Yeah...The clone has no GPS, no 4G or HSAP+...no smart scroll, smart pause, or smart stay, only has 1 gig of ram, and the s-pen button is non existent. But it does have GLOBAL gesures, which is quite impressive!
[Galaxy Note 3 General] toxicneo:
Hmm.. I had the APK of the app. But just wanted to do these checks before that. In the initial checks itself I came to know it is a fake. Any previous Samsung owners will know it is a fake just by looking at the display. The display did not that richness of a original Note 3.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] vndnguyen:
You can use *#0*# to test all of the functions
[Galaxy Note 3 General] masatheboy:
Thanks alot for info. I will BE carefull when i order my note.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] 7odaahmad:
Didn't understand a word
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kenneu:
Question:

If I bring a Note 3 into a verizon store (that is a Verizon IMEI), is there any way that a counterfeit would register on the verizon network? If I want to purchase a used phone from craigslist and it will be registered on Verizon (not an unlocked, but a verizon locked phone), and I tell the seller that I'll pay him once the phone is transferred to my account, won't that assure me it's not a counterfeit?

I believe the IMEI database is specific to each carrier -- i.e. verizon knows the legitimacy of every Verizon-sold Galaxy Note 3 and will pull that from the hardware.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dw4:
Hi, well the boot logo is one of the ways to spot a fake, if its not samsung it is a fake.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] babyshanks:
Boot animations are extremely easy to copy/fake. So I doubt that's a reliable way. I've tried 3 different boot animations this week alone.

Verizon is cdma and uses esn which I know less about, but if it's like Imei they could take a real one and copy it over and make it seem real.

Sent from my Wicked V.5 SM-N900T
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kenneu:
Well, I asked the buyer to send me an antutu and the imei. I called verizon and they reported it as "one of their phones". I used a few IMEI checkers online and they reported it as a Note 3.

I inspected the phone for obvious physical things. Screen is great. Took sharp pictures.

It booted up samsung logo, then verizon logo, then startup.

Inspected the pen. It clicks. Hover over the screen and you get the little wheel. I wrote some stuff and did text recognition and it worked flawlessly.

All things pointed to legit so I bought it. Thanks to all of the posters in this forum that gave me ideas to look for on the phone.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] s7yler:
well Kies Air works fine on my HDC Galaxy Note 3 max N9006 clone.... and find it as a SM-9006

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwzxdbAcOCs 13:55 in the video

So that is not a bulletproof method

The china clones almost have all features cloned by now (even the S-pen is with chip/button also now).

If you ask me the easiest way to spot a fake is if the Air view really works (hovering over things), that feature haven't been copied yet on the clones.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] dw4:
Also i've never seen amoled displays on clone, didn't see that many clones tho
[Galaxy Note 3 General] xclub_101:
I think it is a bulletproof method (at least for the moment) if we speak specifically about Kies over USB - the wireless one is much easier to fake since there is no custom hardware involved, but the USB one is a lot harder to fake.

Also the fakes never have download (Odin) and the same kind of recovery mode as the original.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] kms108:
I think knox has been installed to all mote 3, and the fakes don't have it, also the s pen features is a good way to check.
[Galaxy Note 3 General] japjit100:
I first go and see note 3 demo you guys easily spot fake note 3
[Galaxy Note 3 General] Obskure:
Spotting a clone/fake

Folks,

I just went through the trials and tribulations of trying to get my hands on a genuine Note 3 LTE. I thought I might post quickly about the twisted people out there that try and pass off clones as genuine.

I drove two hours to potentially buy a handset of a girl on Saturday. Prior to meeting with her I asked her if the phone was genuine as I would be able to tell. I was assured it was. I was also told that the receipt could be obtained if necessary. Upon meeting the seller,I held the handset and immediately knew it was a fake. No two ways about it. I had planned on installing "Genuine Galaxy" from the play store but there was difficulty getting my data setup.

In the end, I just took a screenshot to prove to the seller that I wasn't going to be taken for a fool. The Samsung method of swiping ones' hand across the screen so I used the volume down and power button. Viewing details of the screenshot reports a resolution of 854x480. I obviously said "No way". Another tell-tale sign was the S-Pen which was flimsy and didn't have a button on one side. Rather, the button is imprinted into the shiny, chrome-effect plastic. The seller insisted "her aunt" was obviously duped, and she was hurt and sorry, but there was a lack on conviction in her voice.

On Sunday, I drove another 2 hours in a different direction to see meet with another seller. This experience was like comparing apples to oranges. Genuine guy, with a like-minded interest in mobile tech. Really easy to deal with and, he was selling a genuine Note 3.

All in all, the weekend wasn't a total waste, but it took more than 600 kilometres to get something worthwhile.

It pays to be weary of these unconscionable sellers who will lie through there teeth to make a sale.

It's one thing selling something and telling it as it is, a clone or fake, not maintaining the item is the genuine article. I think that's the lesson to be learned when looking for a deal on second-hand items. Do your homework and if it looks to be good to be true, it probably is (cliché, I know)
[Galaxy Note 3 General] blessthefa11:
Haha just go to Settings, Accounts, Add Accounts, and when you see a "Samsung Account" on it its definitely A Original Samsung device.. because clones dont have "Samsung Accounts" in the Account Settings.. it only has Facebook, Microsoft Exchange and blah blah blah hope it helps^__^ simple as that..