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[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] Farshlufen:
Itzik, be well.

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[Samsung Galaxy S (4G Model)] inimeg81:
Im gonna cry
[G2 General] Incep:
The 4.4 update for the F320 has been leaked in some chinese forums (no direct download link available though).

From what I can understand from the source, the 4.4 update makes the system way more fluid than the current version.

There's also ART, cloud printing, an improved car mode and screenshots manager.

The date bar under quick toggles now sits on top.

The press relase at the bottom states that an update is to happen within this month. It's unclear if this is for all markets.

For more screenshots and source, please follow this link (in simplified chinese)

Translated press release found at chip.de as follows:

Update from 16:12:13

Good news for the LG G2 : The South Korean company LG Electronics has now confirmed officially, 4.4 still distribute an update to Android this month. According to Jong-seok Park, CEO of LG Electronics Mobile, owner of a G2 do not have to wait until the end of the first quarter of 2014, Android's newest operating system accordingly. As it has been said (see original message below). As users of the LG Forum zpsjbbs report, the rollout of Android 4.4 has already begun. Subsequently, the update will now be rolled out to other markets. The German Press Agency has expressed not started on request from CHIP Online to extradition.

Original message from 11/29/13

The LG G2 in 2014, an update to Android 4.4 Kitkat received by the end of the first quarter. This is confirmed by the manufacturer, to the CHIP Online.

LG G2: No Android 4.3

LG confirms that the G2 will get an update to Android 4.3. The software version is simply skipped. For the manufacturer, it probably is not worth it to provide for the short transition time Android 4.3. If and when other devices such as the Optimus G an update be received, the manufacturer leaves in the dark. (mwi / csg)
[G2 General] sin-cal:
Cool, cant wait!
[G2 General] dps33:
Oh I love this phone, Stock ROM is great , smooth and battery life is incredible fo rme andmy use.

Couple of things I would like to see is of-course what Samsung has.

(1) Multitasking pull tab from the side (do not much care about three fingers gesture)

(2) Split Screen so you have app on the top and bottom, Drop the app from above side tab.

(3) Create a contact from memo.

(4) Soft buttons disappear when not in use. ( guess I prefer HW butons so I have more screen space).
[G2 General] gm007:
I hope they will update it to 4.4.2 directly.
[G2 General] robogo1982:
Guys, please. All this info has already been revealed and discussed in depth: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2528843
[G2 General] maydayind:
4.4.1 - and 4.4.2 are just so fixes with nexus issues. Whe don't rely them
[G2 General] Clark Joseph Kent:
Please use this thread in place already: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2528843

Thread Closed.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ryanvan9:
I need to repost this question again. I didn't the answer I needed.

I have a Verizon Note 2 that I want to sell because I got the Note 3.

I need to go back to a stock ROM. I am rooted via TWRP. I am little new at this part of rooting. Can someone recommend a stock ROM I can use so I can get my phone ready for sale?

All I need is to find a Verizon Note 2 Stock ROM. I want to keep it rooted, but back to stock ROM.

I can't find one.

Can anyone assist me please! :o

THANKS!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] pool_shark:
Have you looked here?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2024207
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ryanvan9:
Yes, I have. I just don't know if any of those pertain to what I want to do...does it?

I want to keep Rooted, but just have a stock ROM.

Do you know which link I need to do that from that page?
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] pool_shark:
If you just want stock root and keep the unlocked bootloader and custom recovery, you should be able to flash this in recovery.

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2261478

If you want to re lock without custom recovery you're going to need help from someone else as I've never done it and wouldn't want to give you the wrong info.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ryanvan9:
Yep, that is what I needed...but the file won't download. I found this file some where else last night, but same result...it won't download. So strange. It was in two different places too...and I tried on home PC and on Work PC.

Thanks for the link.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ryanvan9:
I try to download it, but it will only download about 175megs, then stops. interesting.
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] rogermxl:
Try different mirrors. I usually have same problems when downloading from that server. Till I choose different mirror. Some times I try 2 downloads at same time to get one successful ... :p
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] ryanvan9:
THANKS! that worked!
[Verizon Samsung Galaxy Note II] rogermxl:
Youre welcome. :beer:
[Moto X General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Hey guys, I've had my Moto X for a week now and I might return to my Note 3. I really like this phone overall, but man the camera really is that bad. I read all the stories but hoped the update would be good enough for me. Unfortunately it hasn't been.

I can't even imagine how bad the camera must have been before the update. The camera is simply dreadful. Do I have a defective Moto X or is it really this bad?

If I'm not outside on a sunny day or in a really well lit room, it's the worst camera I've ever had on any smartphone that I've ever owned. And that includes phones from over 4 years ago. Is it really this bad?

Here are some sample shots. I took these same shots with my Note 3, and those shots blew these away. I will try to post those later.
[Moto X General] Travisdroidx2:
Yes, It is that bad. Coming from a S4 and I know what you mean. But I still love being free with a unlocked bootlaoder and would not go back.
[Moto X General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Ughh, I was afraid of that. I really like the phone, but not sure I can deal with this. Thanks bro.
[Moto X General] deathsled:
I don't think the camera is bad at all. I didn't get to experience how it was before any of the updates though.

So far color representation looks to be spot on. I was even impressed by the low light quality. I took a picture last night in a dimly lit room and was astounded at how good the picture came out. It's way better than my last phone (EVO 3D).
[Moto X General] matt87n:
ahhh ya i came from an iPhone 4 which is 3.5 yrs old and the camera on that was better in every category except low light performance.
[Moto X General] fury683:
Are you using HDR?

I also see that your flash seems to be firing. I have Auto Flash OFF because the pictures to look very washed out with the bright white flash. I find that the camera works much better and has much better saturation in lower light with the flash off.

If I'm just taking a picture of a list or piece of paper and I only need to be able to see/read it, I use the flash, otherwise I keep the flash off for "nice" photos.
[Moto X General] telefoner:
Have you tried using any camera apps. I would recommend the following two apps :"a Better Camera "almost fully functional in the free version and FV-5, a paid app and I don't believe there is a trial version. I have been experimenting with both apps and have been quiet successful getting some really decent low light shots. Both apps allow you to set the ISO level and "a Better Camera" allows you to set the amount of noise reduction for low light shots (the options are None, Minor & Hard). Worth trying out either app in my opinion.
[Moto X General] Darth:
I've got pics of the kids inside at night, with flash on... And the pics are easy better than my s2 was. I find background light can make the pic taking tricky tho. I have to move slightly one easy or the other and when I get it right the pics are just fine. Maybe other phones handle background light easier.... But with a little practise, I find this camera pretty good.

That's just me. :)

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And yes... Sometimes you think you need a flash inside... When you don't. And the pics are easy better with no flash. Again... I had to play around and get to know how and where the best pics turn out.

But again.... I'm one of those, it's just a phone camera guys... I'm maybe not as picky. I'm not trying to sell my pics, so I'm happy. If I know I want to take very good pics somewhere... In advance... I bring my camera. ;)
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Right about now it would be nice to see 4.4.2 with camera update. Noise/quality are un-exeptable for a $500+ phone. Yes S4 is night and day difference with Moto X in camera.

S4 was the FIRST camera in phone that I used and I took many pictures, most came out usable and some pretty impressive. With MX, most pictures indoors I cant even look at.....I delete all of them right away.
[Moto X General] gtg465x:
The only place I find camera quality to be bad is in low light, but it's not the hardware, it's the software. The camera software just sets the ISO higher than it should and overexposes everything in low light. I use FV-5 to manually set a lower ISO and manually set the metering point so that it doesn't overexpose the shot, and then I can get great shots in low light. If you don't know a little about cameras or aren't willing to take the time to manually adjust low light shots though, you'll be disappointed. In decent lighting I can get some great shots even with the stock camera app though, especially with HDR.
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Perhaps you are right. But how hard is it for a TEAM of developers at Motorola/Google to figure this out ? We are on 2nd camera update here its still ****

PS. on S4 I used only 2 modes and didnt even touch settings, Auto and Night Mode......thats all I needed to take excellent photos.

few night/low light shots from S4, last one was taken in almost complete darkness, camera just picked up light from night club flashing lights
[Moto X General] 1ManWolfePack:
I agree. I love this phone but the camera sucks. Snoop Dogg came to my Christmas party and I was so excited to get some shots.

They all came out blurry :( all my buddies with S4s got killer shots. I don't know, maybe I'll blame it on the alcohol....

That ticked me off a bit.
[Moto X General] Bradart:
This. For low light shots, I either use fv5 or take the photos with the stock camera and run them through Perfectly clear. I've gotten a lot of fantastic shots with my X. Low-light is the only setting in which I need to kind of finagle anything.
[Moto X General] 640k:
if you take a pic of your tree with an SLR with the same exposure settings and you'll get an equally awful pic.

honestly i think the camera on the X is fine. i think it could be better but i think overall its a pretty good camera, on par with some point and shoots i've used. it all comes down to lighting, plus the HDR mode really helps.
[Moto X General] il buono:
Been using Camera FV-5 for whenever I need low light shots. First one is the stock camera app and the second shot is via Camera FV-5. These were shot in very low light conditions.
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Gonna give it a try. Big difference there
[Moto X General] 640k:
CameraZoomFX lets you pick the ISO setting too, which could increase the exposure.
[Moto X General] telefoner:
I am curious if these photos were taken with the stock camera app or a 3rd party app?
[Moto X General] 640k:
Stock. You can tell from the image properties.

EDIT: I take it back. There's no specific information that says what app took the pic, only what device. Technically we're talking about the inability of the Moto X's sensor to perform adequately. Different apps can force different settings/processing techniques, but you're still limited to the sensor/lens capability of the device.

Here's a CameraZoomFX photo taken with a DROID4:

It's all about lighting.
[Moto X General] robotphood:
I'm with you on this one WizeGuy. At first I didn't think the camera was as bad as people said it was. But after using it in the wild and over the course of a week, it really is disappointing. The biggest issue for me is consistency. I CAN get a decent shot if I try to. Low light performance is terrible however and it's really tough to get a good shot most of the time. I was also coming from an S4 and didn't expect it to be on the same level obviously, but now that I've played with it enough, I'm positive even my S3 was better overall. In fact, I've been comparing it with an old iPhone 4S and I couldn't say it's better than that camera (except when there is ample lighting). I take a lot of pictures and it is important to me. Yes it is a camera phone, but downgrading is harder to accept than I thought it would be. I guess I value something that is consistent and easy in auto mode when it comes to my phone. Much sadder is the fact that I really like everything else about this phone, much more than the s4. I prefer the size the moto x by far to anything out there, but the nexus 5 is tempting me right now.
[Moto X General] jtdman:
yep - even my s3 took better pictures. I tried to deposit a couple of checks with the moto x camera (BofA app) and it wouldn't take them at all. Had to use the s3 and worked first try in the same lighting conditions.

I think (hope) that Samsung did a better job with the software and it's just crappy automatic settings on the moto x. I'm going to mess around with HDR or maybe a third party app to see if it improves but I was hoping we'd have 4.4.1 or 2 by now and that would just fix it.
[Moto X General] fleadog99:
I use boa app and Schwab app for deposits. Its worked every time first take even with shadows. You may need to visit a store and see if another phone in the store takes same pics as yours does in same location same lighting.
[Moto X General] 640k:
the camera fixes in the 4.4 point releases were only intended for Nexus devices. If Moto decides to provide an update to the Camera app, it will be through the market.
[Moto X General] jtdman:
ooh - okay thanks for the clarification

I do have the latest app update so I guess this will take a little more experimentation

I love the phone but this camera is a bit frustrating.
[Moto X General] 640k:
i've never owned a phone with top-notch camera functionality so the X is a sort of step-up for me. i still get disappointing photos, but generally speaking, if you play with the settings, you can improve them.

here's a not-so-great photo i took with the X. used flash, was too far away:

here's an HDR photo that didn't quite turn out the way I wanted it:

here's a really decent HDR photo I took:
[Moto X General] :
If I wanted to replace my camera with my phone... I'd probably have had no choice but to buy that new lumina phone.... With windows and all. It's the only phone camera that even comes close to a cheap regular camera. ;)
[Moto X General] gtg465x:
I don't think this has anything to do with camera quality. I have found the BofA app to be finicky with every camera that has a 16:9 aspect ratio sensor.
[Moto X General] Wade-0:
Lumia ;) One of my coworkers has one, and it's pretty amazing the quality of the pictures he takes with it. He's a big photography nerd, and he wouldn't shut up about it for about 2 weeks after he got it.
[Moto X General] :
That's what I mean. Lol I have a couple friends... He doesn't care as long as he can text... Maybe did the Web... That's about it. She wants a good camera... She's a photographer... And likes the idea of a decent camera when she doesn't have her $3000 camera with her.

So it was easy. Him.... Moto G. Her lumia. Done.

Anything other than that phone is going to disappoint some people... Cause they get mad that their $150 cheap camera takes better pics than their $500 plus phone. Well that's how it is. These are phones... The camera is for "oh crap... I don't have my camera on me" pics. ;)

That said... Again, I'm more than happy with my X camera. I am playing around with lighting around me and figuring out the best way to get a decent pic. And decent is all I ask from a phone. :)
[Moto X General] Travisdroidx2:
I think if I never had the Note 2 or the S4 I would not think it was so bad. However after using those devices there is no comparison in my book. I gave my S4 to my wife and have taken side by side shots of the same picture and it is obvious. But then again I am not a expert on ISO exposure also. But on my S4 I never had to worry about that.
[Moto X General] :
No phone is perfect... Pros and cons for any phone. Gotta research and choose your best fit. There will be weak areas for any phone out there.

Researching the Moto x would tell you up front the camera isn't the best. And yet.... There's hundreds of posts about it. And I'm absolutely positive xda members research before they buy. Lol

It's like buying a big ass SUV and complaining it's bad on gas.

I'll quit going on about it now. ;)
[Moto X General] barondebxl:
Dude the camera is a piece of sh*t so I won't blame you. Everything else is good or great.
[Moto X General] dems86:
Camera Zoom FX is half off right, anyone use it or recommend it to help with some of the camera issues?
[Moto X General] Travisdroidx2:
Fully agree. I knew the camera was crap compared to my S4 before i bought it. But the trade off for a Dev device with unlocked boot loader on Verizon was a easy decision.
[Moto X General] :
Exactly. It's an awesome phone. Camera is a known weakness. Every phone has its weakness(es).

I considered the lumia... Cause of the awesome camera... But then came to my senses. Lol windows? Horrible battery? No thanks. But... If having an awesome camera were my top priority.... I'd be typing on the lumia right now. Battery was my top priority. This phone or G2. The Motorola radio strength and smaller size made the X the winner. :)
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Just had a quick bite at Panera.....pictures :) nothing staged or anything, just took out phone, focused and snapped shots.

ps. that last picture, I wish I still had this photo from S4 to compare because thats NOT how its supposed to look at all

EDIT: ISO 640 on first 4 pictures
[Moto X General] :
I never looked before... But there's some very great pics in the pic thread. To say the camera "sucks" is not accurate. It's just better with certain environments than others is the fair analysis. ;)
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Here few shots Galaxy Nexus vs MX. Considering Nexus is 5mp and is not even HDR, I would say Nexus picture look better.
[Moto X General] aooga:
What car is that? I've never seen one with a pink backlight
[Moto X General] Wade-0:
I don't agree. I think this camera is a huge step up from the Nexus. I can also see a significant improvement in the pictures my wife is taking now compared to her Nexus, which is saying a lot ;). Personally, I disabled the HDR option a long time ago and rarely use it. The same goes for the flash. I also tend to drag the metering box around the screen until the exposure is acceptable before releasing the shutter.

But I also use a DSLR with external Speedlight, so I think my expectations of what the camera phone's software can do to "fix" a poorly lit scene are more realistic. I can still get crappy pictures with an expensive camera if I don't use it correctly.
[Moto X General] kolyan:
lol, its not pink. its supposed to look like that. its Honda S2000. Moto X completely screwed up that photo
[Moto X General] aooga:
Ohh, okay lol. White balance issues. I was really wondering what car maker would put a pink backlight on their cars. Nice car though. :good:
[Moto X General] kolyan:
Thanks. This is the car. First 2 pictures are GS4 and 3rd one is Moto X with "Punch" filter applied.
[Moto X General] robotphood:
Even after reading how bad the camera was we had hope ha! Didn't expect it to compete with any flagships but didn't think it'd be worse then last years flagships. Always some trade offs... So close.
[Moto X General] athris:
I have noticed the Camera is pretty good, but the app is really bad. Also it seems like the app will messed up the color in low light, especially on red color, it will become pink, I tried the jb camera on google play and color turn back to actual color, so I think Motorola still have a lot to do on color reproduction and notice.
[Moto X General] WizeGuyDezignz:
Thanks so much guys for all the responses. I have decided to go back to an S4 actually. I will return my Moto X to Motorola and sell my Note 3 on Swappa.

I used to have an S4 and I think it's right for me. Better camera and I actually don't mind Touchwiz. I got one that I can root and flash roms with the Loki exploit.

Thanks again guys, a lot of great info in here!
[Moto X General] Travisdroidx2:
Sure you don't want to wait and see what nitro has in the works with a camera?
[Moto X General] jeffreycentex:
I'm probably in the minority by saying I prefer the X camera to the S4.. The S4 was way too blurry in low light. I don't particularly like the App, but the camera itself can take acceptable pictures... I'd prefer if we could get the G2 Camera app working with proper ISO (it was worse in blurry pictures than the S4).
[Moto X General] robotphood:
Another plus, how heavily supported the s4 is. Hopefully the X picks up but moto's sales indicate otherwise. Cyber Monday certainly helped. Good luck with the phone search.

The s4 does have a ton of noise in low light. Fairly weak in comparison to how good it can be with adequate light. The X in low light is highly processed. I guess it may look clearer but the lighting is totally off and unrealistic. In lit situations I don't think you can compare.
[Moto X General] eyc:
I wonder if there is variance with the camera hardware, or perhaps just an anomaly with a small batch, because my camera doesn't produce pictures that are this bad. I mean, the photos posted in here look like dog $hit. When I got my MotoX, I did a whole lot of comparison shots with my S4 and found them to be very balanced. I tried indoor and outdoor, low light, bright light. All seemed pretty fine to me. I wonder what is causing the pictures in this thread to look so horrendous. I genuinely have never seen anything so bad on my phone.
[Moto X General] :
What are custom roms really going to do for us that xposed can't? I used to flash allot on my S2...But now that I'm playing with xposed... I don't see the need.

A custom kernel or two might be nice... But that may not happen.

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If I misunderstood "supported"... My bad. ;)
[Moto X General] kolyan:
I am going to try to compare camera with my buddies MX....but I hardly doubt its hardware variance or some defect. Moto X has been out since end of summer and I just bought mine on Cyber Monday, they had plenty of time to fix hardware bugs. If you read reviews on the Play Store you will read same over and over again.....NOISY, UNUSABLE, etc.
[Moto X General] robotphood:
Depending on the rom there is more tweaked then what can be done with xposed. But I agree, xposed on the moto x (vanilla s4 even) is usually enough. I agree with you on the kernel. Much rather have that then a custom rom.
[Moto X General] Blitzpwnage:
This camera REALLY needs work,I too came from an s4 then a note 2 and iPhone 5 before that. The Moto is better than the note but sucks against the iPhone and s4
[Moto X General] Wade-0:
Since I bought it back when I was trying to improve the ****ty camera on my GNex, I installed it last night to see where they've taken it since I last used it. Not a big fan of the interface (huge waste of space for their stupid gimmicky effects) but it does allow manual override of the ISO, white balance, and other settings.