yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[MDA Compact II General] funkus:
Thats a good idea perhaps you could load the rom to the ftp site so i can test it too.

Also: I have recieved an email (god knows how they got it!) about the MDA Comapct II suggesting that perhaps the Charmer has wifi (as the propedt version does) built in but with a disabling function (hw/sw) so.....I took it to peices :)

Ill write full details and do diagrams when i have little more time, it seems possible to dissasemble the device fully. I couldnt see any obvious missing parts or dodgy soldering but boy do they want to keep you out of there, even after taking the entire device to peices most of the main chip board is encased in soldered metal enclosures!

Here are details from all visible chip though (digram on its way)

[This is a list of codes read from any visible chip]

1.

SDIO Reader:

Panasonic SDIO OS1112P

XA29200933

4053BS4809935

0320-02M B01 A0B

2. BHS TIW 5975 (?)

3. 5559 378 (rectangular metal with small hole)

4. BBJ S9K (?)

Dunno if any of that is important, if there is a wifi chip it could well be locked within the meatal casing with an external ariel, but the full details of the SDIO reader might help reveal something. Ill take photos of the interior if needed i just forgot that my mobile camera is my only one!

funkus

PS: My device still works after dissasembly but i did break off the knob of plastic that the sliding volume controll moves so if youre gunna try it, watch out for that!
[MDA Compact II General] dave106:
posted my debranded rom up

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=255657#255657
[MDA Compact II General] dave106:
so to conclude i guess, we've looked at the differences in the registry and rom and going on the basis that TMobile somehow messed up their rom and stopped wifi cards from working. but there is very little difference between them and combining the differences doesnt solve it.

so we're only left with, either WM5 doesnt natively support wifi sdio cards or there is a hardware reason in the mdac2 why it wont work with wifi sdio. t-mobile assures us they are looking into it.
[MDA Compact II General] funkus:
yeah youre probably right, were out of ideas at the moment anyhow lets just keep our fingers crossed for the new rom. Im probably going to try to change devices if it isnt sorted by the time my contract ends, hopefully someone will have released the prophet by then. That would negate the issue of swapping out SD cards. Ho Hum :(

[there are still alot of reviews out there claiming wifi sdio's will work, it's iritating cos i checked these before i bought my Compact II and i expect others still are :evil: ]
[MDA Compact II General] levani:
T-mobile MDA Compact PLZ Help

I Have t-mobile MDA compact (charmer)

cpu: OMAP850

geschwindigkeit: 195mhz

RAN-grobe: 64MB

Flash-grobe: 128mb

Flash-chip-typ: m-system G3

Date-bus: 1

------------------------------------

Rom version: 1.12.2.21 GER

ExtROM version: 1.12.21.106

if someone know how can i change GERMAN with ENGLISH??

plz write me what i mast to know thanks a lot.. :oops: :cry:
[MDA Compact II General] zoky:
Go to http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_com2.html, download english ROM and flash it to device.

8)
[MDA Compact II General] levani:
T-mobile MDA Compact PLZ Help

i Try it but it's not working

i have error: INVALID VENDER ID

"these error messages will appear when you use the wrong RUU to do the upgrade. RUU will check if the Model ID and Language ID are compatible with the device. Make sure you use the appropriate RUU tool to upgrade." :cry: :cry: :cry:
[MDA Compact II General] dave106:
Re: T-mobile MDA Compact PLZ Help

use

ftp://xda:xda@ftp.xda-developers.com/Uploads/HTC Wizard/Wizard_RomUpgradeUtility_noID.rar

instead of the exe file in the package
[MDA Compact II General] levani:
T-mobile MDA Compact PLZ Help

TAHNX a lot gyes.. now my mda is english and i can use it... i'm so happy :o :o 8) :lol: :D :wink:
[MDA Compact II General] funkus:
hmm ADMIIIN? can we have a charmer section? cos when people are browsing for info anyone who knows that the Charmer is not a magician will skip our posts... is that possible?
[MDA Compact II General] Anna@MDA:
MDA compact II - WIFI workaround - I Got It!

Hi all,

(I might post this twice, because I think this message could be very helpful for others too, but please report your experiences before).

My device is a German T-mobile MDA compact II with Windows Mobile 5 (install 14.11.05)

The further posts in this thread are a little bit beyond my IT-knowledge - I am a blonde... I found you when I completely resetted my MDAc and the Sandisk 256MB WiFi card dit not work anymore. (Although I installed the correct driver (Sandisk Support Site: WM2003).

To understand this workaround you have to read the history of it - as weird as it might sound:

After I got the MDAc I also bought a GPS-SD-Stick from GlobalSat SD-502 - great device - I am an expert in getting lost...

I have not read the compatibility list carefully enough before purchase, the piece did not work but I kept drivers and SW on the MDAc and sent the item back to seller. Now I use the T-mobile bluekit in my car with the t-mobile navigate-SW.

---

I bought the Sandisk 256MB Wifi later, installed the driver, and this worked perfectly. - I come home, change Sandisk 2 GB with my music with the Sandisk Wifi - changed the network - everything´s fine.

After the complete reset I installed all software I wanted - EXCEPT the SD 502 - and the personal files and started the MDAc: NO WIFI anymore!!! Thats why I found this thread...

This morning I reinstalled the SW of GlobalSat SD 502 again, made a soft reset - et voilá: It is working again! Stable and perfect!

In my opinion the reason is: The SD 502 driver makes changes in the registry and/or installs additional dlls which do not make the SD 502 work but other SD-IO(NOW!)-devices! (As a very experienced Mac-User all those hidden secrets in the registry of windows - as small as this Win Mobile 5 is - make me crazy!)

I am sure that GlobalSat would not like that I provide their software OnWeb but I think it is possible to download from their site.

If anyone can reconstruct this workaround (or not) - please let me know.

CU

AnnaOnWeb (@MDAc2, @dbox2, @W202, @R1100R)

PS: @admin: A special Charmer section would be really helpful...
[MDA Compact II General] funkus:
:!: Anna :!: . Giant e-hug for your invaluable help!!!

As far as i know you are one of the only people who has sucesfully used a wifi card with the charmer. Im guna try this myself even though mine is a different card

Blonde or not you may have cracked it, mebe you should tell t-mobile! . :D

EDIT: tried installing both my wifi card drivers and the gprs ones but it seems no more responsive, but mine is the Spectec SDW 820 so this method might only work with your wifi card.

Please try if you have a card and a charmer, if it works again on another sandisk card ill go buy one :D . (still no news on the rom update form t-mobile 'due March 2006' )
[MDA Compact II General] Anna@MDA:
Thx - I feel honored

Hi Funkus,

Try the sandisk driver on the spectec card - as I´ve heard Spectec and Sandisk use the same drivers.

Did you really downloaded the right SW from GlobalSat? It was a software called GPS info. If you can´t find it at GlobalSat let me know.

Another offer I can make - if you trust me - send me your wifi-card (GB_>D would not cost much), I will try it, give appropriate information about its performance, and send it back. (my ebay rating is 100% and as smart as you are you will be able to find me "OnWeb"...)

Otherwise: try to get a sandisk 256MB Wifi card, sell the spectec card and try the workaround exactly as I described. I can provide telephone support via skype but please excuse my bad English...

I just watched weather channel on my device... :-)

CU - I cross my fingers 4u

Anna

P.S.: Tell it t-mobile? No way, they don´t want customers using WiFi except with their GPRS - but if I got paid for this?...

P.P.S: If anyone wants to correct my Englisch - GO! I am in an application process @ Time Warner. EVERY hint does help me!
[MDA Compact II General] funkus:
The file i downloaded and tried was this 'GPSDisk.v133.armv4.CAB' (the latest driver is this the 'Gps info'?

http://www.globalsat.com.tw/english/download.php?level_id=3

/\ WHere i got it from. There a GPS info files there but only for other devices. Is this a new vesion? Do you have the old one?

it might be here:

http://www.usglobalsat.com/downloads/

Also:

what program are you using to serch for and connect to wifi networks? it might help if i use the same software

thanks again
[MDA Compact II General] ag0w:
Re: Thx - I feel honored

This is getting a bit annoying - I think we've pretty much proved that it is something with this being a Jamin without wi-fi that causes the problem - not a move by T-mobile to block it - if it was don't you think they'd do the same to other phones.

I personally think I got a phone that would have cost me £400 (Jamin) for £0 so I can hardly complain something doesn't work that isn't part of the deal!

Funkus - I think you're been sent on a wild - goose chase here .... I'd be suprised if you are being given all the facts here (sorry to be a mega-synic .... I'd love for it to work too!!)
[MDA Compact II General] jonajuna:
i dont think anything has been proved ag0w!

the charmer is NOT the jammin at all, wifi or not, they are two seperate machines.

there is no hardware reason that a sdio card should not work, it will come down to driver/reg/dll type issues as the hardware for the wifi is in the sdio card innit!

so please stop being so negative, if you dont like the fact that people are trying to find solutions for this issue, especially as tmob dont seem to give a crap about us, then dont read the thread.

simple aint it?

oh and by the way, you didnt get your mda for £0, you are paying for it with the contract, dont know what you are on, but the cheapest you could get the mdac2 was £15pm for 18months from what i have seen that makes it £270 that youve paid for it

as for AnnaOnWeb, a quick google shows shes not some troll

>funkus, there is a gpsinfo file for wm5, its here > http://www.usglobalsat.com/downloads/GPSInfo_WM5.zip
[MDA Compact II General] Anna@MDA:
Hi -

that with t-mobile that was a sarcasm - in fact I am very content with their service and after 10 years with Vodafone I now have a lot of benefits because I am a T-com (how do you say?) landline customer also.

Not a troll? I feel honored again, in the morning I look like one ;-) but it is getting better during the day.

---

@funkus: To find a wifi network I can use a small programme which is called "SanDisk WiFi" and this shows you wifi-Parameters in the right corner of the screen and includes an AP-Browser. It is annoying to see my neighbours network always...

I can not exactly remember what version of gps info I installed - the cab file was: gps info.2577.cab.

CU - have a nice evening!

AnnaOnAir
[MDA Compact II General] ag0w:
I disagree with everying you've said - after spending about 20 hours of hacking and ROM changing myself including installing JAMin ROMs.

Make a mental note - if people aren't saying what you want to hear it DOES NOT mean they are being negative - simple aint it?

Except for the AnnaOnWeb bit ... I'm not suggesting she's a troll just that something MAY be getting lost in translation
[MDA Compact II General] Anna@MDA:
Hey guys -

--- "don`t play the woman" --- I like this saying - found it on dict.leo.org... and calm down. This is not a contest.

I got so many helpful hints on internet forums and I am very happy to be give some hints to others too. @all: Do Not Google Me! - I have nothing to do with this Italian woman who stole my name! My server - IF - and only IF - look at "MachFlottDenSchrott"

Lets get back to the topic again - @ funkus - got it working? Others too? Need a hint how to connect a Neutrino-dbox stream via WIFI? Have not tried it on the MDAc yet...

Have a nice evening,

Anna
[MDA Compact II General] jonajuna:
with your extensive experience of hacking the roms, could you please enlighten me on what (missing)part of the hardware is not allowing a wifi sdio card to function then?

according to the wiki on here, htc and tmobile, the slot supports sdio. the wifi card is just an sdio card so other than a software issue, it will work. anna reports to have a workaround, i believe her english to be good enough to have not lost anything in translation, its certainly better than my german.

and starting a post by saying

tends to make most people think you are being somewhat negative
[MDA Compact II General] ag0w:
The bit that is "getting annoying for me" - is this notion that T-Mobile are taking the piss cos wi-fi doesn't work. - An inovative company that now even does bargain unlimited data access.

To clarify my 'opinion'

I pay £239 for the contract to get 1800 free minutes and 720MB of data - a value of £990 on a lot of the networks - the phone was just a bonus - an it functions well in all areas that you would expect (Allowances made for poor Windows products).

To my knowledge T-Mobile do not have a wi-fi issue with any other phone.

It will allways be my opinion that a charmer is a modified Jamin - Camera, memory and wi-fi and the process has rendered the wi-fi SDIO in-operable ... Maybe not even checked by T-Mobile and HTC.

Now I'm 'not being negative' but I suspect that there may be no software solution to this and I would be suprised if it is resolved in T-Mobiles imminent (March :roll: ) update
[MDA Compact II General] funkus:
Wow! it a storm in a tea cup! wth!

The MDA Compact II is a HTC Charmer

The Jamin is A HTC Prophet (orange M600)

this is the only HTC device that uses the same internal components, differing only in internal wifi and a 2mpixel Camera.

<--this we tried long ago! Me and Dave 106 studied the roms and he even made a downloadable q-tek stlye rom (availlable in the ftp section) you could have read this and saved yourself some 'Hacking'. We tested this in many ways but decided that verry few people would design a wifi sdio driver for a device that has onbord wifi, so if its not in the charmer rom its definitly not in the prophet rom.

The most likely situation is, Prophet is designed for orange/Jamin/dopod with cheaper charmer version perhaps made to order for T-Mobile enabling them to offer the devices for free.

But since the prophet uses the same Texas Instruments TiOAMP Processor, perhaps the rom for the Propet was used in the charmer only with camera soft changed and the wifi software stripped off...maybe leaving fragment that interfere with the sdio \ or / wifi SDIo capability was ignored completely in the origional rom because of the prophets onbord wifi and t-mobile have run to HTC asking for a driver or reg settings. Perhaps both but i doubt that they actually took Prophet devices and removed the wifi chips, that would be a huge waste of time and money!

The hardware/software probability is undecided since the charmer is idntical to the prophet with no built in wifi, perhaps the software designed for the prophet is still used in the charmer, upsetting sdio wifi performance. Mebe charmers have the wifi hardware points diabled in a manner that also causes wifi sdio issues. If we stop arguing we might find out :P

Thats why we're here, the fact that T-mobile seem to be doing a poor job, especially on the infamous 'march' update, is irrelevent and can be discussed elsewhere and forwarded to t-mob themselves, i know i rant but ill try to stick to the subject in hand from now on.

Lets just help each other fix this, im sure anna wouldnt be asking for a dedicated charmer section if she had a different device, so the translation is fine...although

Should say 'stop acting like women' ...and to be honest if they were acting like women they would be finding workarounds to my wifi sdio issues..lol

Havent had any success yet but thats probably cos i use a Spectec card, ill buy a 256/wifi one when i see one pop up on ebay, then post of course, this is good news guys! stop looking so down!, sceptical or not she has it working . . . :D

So let me confirm it, if you need confimation from a second user and as soon as youre satisfied you can join us and slap a big fat Bow on this Puppy! That would be nice wouldnt it!
[MDA Compact II General] rishi2504:
Success !! SDIO-Wifi on MDA Compact II

Hello All ,

I was a happy user of my I-mate JAM using a SOCKET SDIO Wi-fi card until a got to see the T-mobile MDA compact II.I fell into a false belief that it is an improved version of the i-mate JAM and is equivalent to JAMIN.I bought it and struggled to make even my SDIO Wi-fi card work on the new phone.

However, the workaround provided by Anna@MDA has worked for me.

But , there was an additional bit I needed to do.The Windows mobile 5 drivers for this card are not available on the website.So, I had to ask SOCKET team to mail me the same.They were very prompt in their response and I got the same on the next day.

Thanks Anna@MDA for your help !!

Funkus , please let me know if you need any help for your research.I can mail you the drivers I received from SOCKET as well as the GPS driver.I can also mail you the dump of my ROM.

cheers,

Rishi
[MDA Compact II General] jonajuna:
please please do post the drivers etc up on here.

also can you say what make and model of wifi sdio card you are using?

the one anna has is pretty hard to come by nowadays in the UK

im guessing you have this one?

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=125130

cheers :)
[MDA Compact II General] rishi2504:
Unfortunately , as per the forum rules ; I am not supposed to post those drivers here.Pls. give me your mail id, I will mail them across to you.

The model you have provided is not the correct one.Here is the link to my model :

http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=WLAN6060
[MDA Compact II General] jonajuna:
of course, sorry to encite you to break rules! my bad

mail is jonajuna at hotmail dot com

(dont worry about me posting addy in the wild, im inundated with spam at that address anyway! ;) )

shame to see your card is discontinued :( im not going to invest money unless i can make 100% sure im completely replicating a known working setup.

the search continues, but the files will be useful thanks :)
[MDA Compact II General] rishi2504:
have mailed you the drivers.....
[MDA Compact II General] tomtomtim:
My MDA II (T-Mobile with WM5.1.70 build 14409.1.1.2) with Sandisk 256Mb+Wifi card cannot find my access point and as far as I can tell, it's not working with the MDA at all. The light flashes, but there is nobody home.

I already had the Sandisk 256Mb+WiFi card (F/W version 1.08.04.128) and I had tried the Wm2003 driver (version 3.01.04.03.0037) when I first got the phone - without any success - That was when I found the threads that led me here and I discovered how difficult it is to get this to work. So I unistalled the Sandisk drivers, threw the card (not literally) in a drawer and waited for the mythical march update from T-Mobile...

I've been following all the hard work being done by Funkus and Dave 106 through this forum and MoDaCo (awsome dedication guys! 8) ) so I was very excited when Anna@mda posted her fix for the MDA Compact II with Sandisk Wifi 256Mb card... :D

Following Anna's post, I have now reinstalled the Sandisk driver and also installed the GPSinfo file (the one that Anna@mda said she'd used) and I took care to install them in the same order as Anna too.

I am using a Linksys WRT54G access point and I have reset the wireless "basic rate" to 1-2mbps as advised for older 802.11b devices. I have not enabled encryption and the SSID is being broadcast.

Still nothing. Has anyone else managed to replicate Anna's success on a UK phone? Anyone got *any* idea how to get this working?

TomTomTim

--

Manchester, UK
[MDA Compact II General] Anna@MDA:
@rishi2504 - cgrtltns.wm5 -

sorry you have to be a mac-addict to understand this. (When Windows 95 was issued, Steve Jobs or whoever was CEO of Apple at that time placed a double sided advertisement in a lot of famous magazines - must have cost him $$$ - containing only this word: cgrtltns.w95 ...

Windows has slaves, Apple got addicts. (Oder was heißt "Jünger" im biblischen Sinn?)

I am very glad, that my work-around-around could help you! I can not see your post right now when writing this answer but let us make the "how to" be as helpful to others as possible and help me please with exact information when I post this in a new thread. ---

@tomtomtim

I am very sorry that this workaround did not work for you.

Did you really make a complete fresh install, and then installed the "workaround" files and AFTER this you installed the WiFi-Card-driver?

Might be the reason of your failure is, that you only de-installed the Wifi-Driver and it has left some understandeble traces in Bill Gates´opaque universe? It would take me some time to check the release of my files and compare it to your release state .... As I was told in this forum I am not able to understand English very well :-) To use "regedit" on a Mac means to perform a open heart surgery - regedit on Win seems to be a minor cut - but... I don´t like doing sth I don´t understand.

If you like I can provide you by Email with the original 3 files I used. And I also have to write a professional "how to" in a new thread to make it straight and clear. Every hint will be of help and I am not the person who does not dare to write a letter to t-mobile´s CEO in this matter - in perfect German - promised.

What I/you have to do for this: I have to make a backup (spb backup is very recommended) and a fresh install of all software I need. My hint: As an owner of a HTC Charmer - keep yr fingrs away from .net applications: The processor does slow down VERY much.

Install the "workaraound files" and every SW you want. And then restore via spb backup your personal data.

After that install the wifi-driver. It should work - but sometimes I also have to restart my pda after inserting the card. You should NOT make any alterations (speed, cahnnel) - just try out what you find with AP-Browser.

---

I can not stop making comments - woman, blonde - you know - but after 2,5 yrs of using OS X I only had once a Kernel panic after a hardware failure - this is called BSOD - I´ve never heard of this - I had to ask a Win-User what this abbr means - got some comments on being blonde... It took me a long while to like this WM5-device...

But I feel very comfort in this forum - uh-oh - among Windows-Users ;-)

CU on WLan!

AnnaOnWeb

P.S.: Apple now uses Intel Chips - might be in 2008 it would be AMDs - I dont mind - if somebody wants to switch: I did - in 1985 - and it took me 2 days - "ich habe die Dose mit dem Arsch nicht mehr angeguckt, und ich hatte den damals "State of the art computer - compaq portable III - Lieferzeit 6 Monate"" - and I never regretted this. Could somebody give me a translation for the"xxx" please? :-)

Good Night!
[MDA Compact II General] Anna@MDA:
@ag0w

"nichts für ungut" as we would say in German.

English translation please? :-) You can´t imagine how difficult it is to get translation for "common language".

But have you tried my workaround already? Did it work? I really would appreciate your comment. When I post an official workaround it should be perfect.

I did not want to kick off a discussion about tariffs or hw-prices - you are right - Lets us start a new thread about values of "long contract+high value device" vs. "cheap and short")

In fact I got my Mda compact II/HTC Charmer very cheap (25% of normal price with a small contract) and with excellent support - the t-mobile-people learned a lot. They won a 10-yr-customer from vodafone.

I am also customer of T-Com (land-line) in Germany which give me a lot of advantages in combination to t-mobile: Common use of net-based answering machine... etc.

As I interpret your comment: You have to weigh everything up before you buy. And I got an optimal solution.

Please let us start a new discussion about tarriffs/value of device - this may be of great interest to others.

And don´t forget: What did "nichts für ungut" mean?

Good Night,

Anna - blonde, Troll, Mda-User, W202Driver, R1100RDriver - Mac+Unix-addict