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[Nexus 7 (2013) General] kingston73:
? You know this for a fact, that EVERY SINGLE tablet has this issue? Either mine is the unique exception or I just haven't noticed it, and if I haven't noticed it doesn't that mean I don't have a problem?

I think something people have to remember is the Nexus 7 is a hugely popular item and MANY people have bought it, but not nearly as many people are on this or other forums, so you tend to only hear the negative loud people. I'm not saying people haven't had problems, just that this forum is biased towards perfectionists and the most vocal people.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] teddy0209:
I'm very satisfied with my nexus 7 (2013)...

It's way cheaper but better than most tablets that I've tried...

I guess we just have to check what we are buying...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Raverbunny:
Damn, I must be one of the lucky ones, no multitouch issues (or any other for that matter). I think it goes like this: those with problems will be vocal and complain whereas the ones with working tablets are actually using and enjoying them and not posting about it.

Maybe people with no issue need to start gloating about it so the ones with problems can see they actually are in the minority :P

Edit: just for the records, I did have the screen lift issue on my old Grouper, but both my Deb and my wife's Tilapia never had any problems.

Nexus 7 LTE

Stock rooted KOT49H

Faux Kernel
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
No problem here with no case and no screen protector. No multi touch issues though I use my device and have never tested. I do play many games and never notices any touch screen issues though using more than a couple fingers a time is rare.

As for the glass breaking on its own, I guess it is possible though I tend to doubt things like this. I don't doubt the story but I'm just saying that just because you have a broken screen and didn't see it happen does not mean that it just broke on its own. It could have been hit or bent or even abused during shipping.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] orlandoxpolice:
5.35M Nexus 7 (2012) were sold in the second half of 2012. I assume the 2013 version may have similar numbers, assume 5M. It has been out for roughly 5 months, so maybe a sale of 1M per month. Now, how many consumers who have purchased one also post on XDA? Looking at this forum, there are almost 80,000 posts, which is 1.6% of 5M (assuming each post is a unique user, which it is not). Out of these 80,000 users/posts, how many have been about the tablets having defects, failing, etc? Maybe a couple of hundred? I feel for the users who are having issues, I would feel the same way, and probably make a similar post venting my frustrations, but I find a post with a title like this misleading.

edit: there is no way of knowing how many people who dont post on xda have a defective tablet which i just realized. oh well.

tl;dr - i think the odds of buying a defective tablet are pretty low
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
I agree.

Plus many people here never experience some of these issues when using the device normally but see them when testing with an app or something.

I mean how many times do you need to use more than 2 or 3 fingers on the screen?

Not to mention Google is pretty good with the warranty replacements though broken glass is a different thing. I do not blame them for not replacing every device with a broken screen. I'm sure many people call and tell them the screen broke by itself. It was just sitting on my desk and it shattered.

I understand the frustration but one or even a few hundred bad err experiences out of millions is not a reason to stay away from this device.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] clokworc:
Screen cracks are often user error. I've only seen screens crack from vulnerable corners.

Basically, just get a case. I recommend moki.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] spiralspirit:
I've had mine for 6 months. Worked flawlessly. No issues. I'd recommend this tablet to anyone.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] danyboy008:
I got one with the multitouch issue along with some dead pixels... took it to Asus and they gave me a new one in 3 days, and before sealing it they tested the screen in front of me; no more problems with the new one :D Totally recommend the tablet and I can only say that the Costumer service is great.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mtiberio:
At these prices, I'd consider the Nexus 7 a consumable item. Get what you can from it and when it is done buy another or somethng else... What is the big deal.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] DaemonAshra:
I was actually going to post the exact same thing. This isn't a $500 iPad Air or a $900 Ultrabook. its an almost Sub-$200 tablet that does what it does extremely well for the price. Its not something to get this up in arms about.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Anderson2:
Agree.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] raulcckk:
Every thing goes well with me..... Thank goodness.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Schaduwridder:
I've had mine for a few weeks now and use it every evening for at least an hour and many times longer.

No touch issues so far. I also used some of the touch test apps and all fingers are correctly registered.

I think it is normal that happy people don't post as much as unhappy people.

So a forum will most likely

This time I like to make an exception and post that I'm completely happy with the device so far.

No issues at all!
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] torchwolfery:
mild disappointment..

before I say anything, I just want to say to the op that I'm sorry you have had such a crappy experience with your nexus...

personally i can commiserate with you a little. My nexus was working perfectly until one day as I was standing waiting for a bus i noticed a little something at the top of my device. It looked like a hair or a small thread. so without thinking i pulled it and crack an tiny tiny piece of the screen flaked off and a track ran the length of the screen.. i have not or ever dropped this device.. it had the rubber cover but no screen protector.. i sent it back to asus and got no help and refused to pay such a high price for repair when I had done nothing...

in the end despite my bad experience with my device i can hand on heart still say that the nexus 7 is a damn fine machine.. hence why im working on a way to use it without the touchscreen...

one last thing so far most of the comments on here have just been people either saying wow mine works perfectly or its not possible to just break for no reason...

I've goggled this issue and more people have it happen, as for the touchscreen issues its known that there have been touchscreen problems. theres even a thread here discussing and flashable zips made to help people with this issue...

while its great that so many of you are lucky enough to have no problems maybe you could just spare a little sympathy for those less fortunate, we are supposed to be a community of people who are lucky enough to use and share the same great device maybe you could keep that in mind when you write your next comments...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] C5Longhorn:
Agree, I'd be upset if I had these issues.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] naruto.ninjakid:
this is why I didn't get one. Read way to many horror stories like this. Asus quality control is garbage in my opinion. If you're still in the market for something spend the extra money and get the LG G Pad 8.3 Google play edition or regular. Build quality is way better and you get a bigger screen, plus fast updates if you get the Google edition.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mj0528:
I don't about the better screen. Their having a lot of issues with their screen as well.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] xsaver23:
I got mine on August.

I dont have any kind of protection on it.

Still looks new.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] mj0528:
Love cases, hate screen protectors
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] weezlerox:
nothing to see here...

I have had my Nexus 7 (2013) since the end of summer, have always had it in a case but it has also travelled around a lot with me - it is far more convenient than hauling a laptop around even if it means a few compromises here and there.

As for the mixture of comments, I will try to stay neutral; it is indeed a great shame to hear of any unsatisfied customer regardless of the scenario but maybe also our expectations can sometimes be a little ambitious..... If you had one of the earlier iphones (which had notoriously fragile screens) you KNEW that Apple wouldn't do anything for you if/when it broke regardless of the back story. The time it would take to fully investigate the legitimacy of any screen related warranty claim, and its associated cost and manpower would simply not make it financially viable. I believe this to be the reason that so many companies just put a blanket "not fixing screens" policy into effect.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Batou069:
Same here!!! I have my nexus 1.5 months and my screen has suddenly a big scratch from top right corner to middle left side of screen.

I use a case and a screen protector. But I can't feel a scratch on the screen protecter...And the device def. was scratch-free when I applied the protector.This means, that there's an internal crack!

When I somehow achieve to click in developer options the show touches option, the whole screen is blinking in red....

In fact, since the last time I used it (without any cracks), the tablet didn't even move place. It just sat there and suddenly I find it cracked!

The part above the crack is non-responsive and under the crack it's just crazy. Clicking on one point, and the screen goes crazy. Continuing to click on its own, opening programs on its own etc...
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] zelch:
Your mileage may vary.

So, I'm sitting here reading the reports of people who baby their devices, and are still getting cracked screens, and I am left to wonder.

I bought by Nexus 7 from BestBuy (mail order) when it came out, and have been using it since the box arrived on the official release date.

I don't keep it in a case most of the time, and it lives in my pockets when I'm home, sometimes it doesn't like to stay there.

So it generally sees a couple of ~ 3 foot falls a week, on to wooden floors, and very rarely tile.

I knew that I was a bit rough on my device when I bought it, and so I spent the money on a Square Trade plan, one that covers accidental damage, because, well, see above.

But with all of this, at least so far, my tablet is still doing great. The touchscreen works, the screen and frame are still perfectly intact, it's not scratched up or anything, and I'm really not treating it all that well around the house.

So, what's different? Why does my tablet take the beating and others seem to fail on their own? Are your cases putting compression strain on the screen? Are there physical flaws in the glass on some units?

My bet? My device wouldn't have lasted a week if I had decided not to buy the warranty, but since I did it will last until either the most inconvenient time possible to fail, or alternatively until the day after the warranty expires. Really just how my luck runs some times. :)
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] dkryder:
One thing that happens to my unit a couple times a week is that I will lay it down on the car seat next to me when getting in the car and when taking out the shoulder belt I will tap the screen pretty hard with the belt latch. It instantly flashes in my brain that I have just cracked the heck out of my screen but so far no cracks. I also have an accidental damage plan. But, yeah I also wonder what is going on with these spontaneous cracks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Matrix_19:
For every device there is always a thread about some spontaneous cracks.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] 200mpx:
I gave myself a word not to buy any of ASUS products after having problems with ALL asus devices that I owned (with eee900, transformer pad tf300 and nexus 7 2012) and refusal of asus service to accept free repaire, but I break it when I saw the beauty of N7 2013. I can not say, that I have a lot of troubles with new N7 but I still have some (problems with touch screen responsiveness periodically, parasite sounds from loudspeakers) and I'm 100% sure that N7 2 is my last asus device. Maybe I'm lucky but I never had hardware problems with other mobile devices and I never visit any of service centers but the Asus one.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Richieboy67:
In terms of the screen cracking rumors where the screen supposedly just cracks on its own. They sold probably hundreds of thousands of these things. How many people reported these spontaneous cracks?

I would say you have a better shot at winning big with lottery or getting struck by lighting then using your screen crack on its own without any cause.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] NeXuS7_uSeR:
My screen cracked too, without dropping the tablet or anything. Really weird... Still working btw.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] brenty108:
Hey noticed a small scuff marks on mine yesterday(only see because I know it's there, other than that nothing)..............My screen protector was ordered at the same time with the tablet but they sent only the tablet and closed off all delivery until the holidays are over(still ain't get it) Kinda knew it would happen but used it very carefully to try and prevent it.

The moral? Buy a screen proctor if you love you screen. And a case for the back to be protected with the camera lens and all. And also do not let it in dusty areas because I noticed one speck of dust not only under the screen but the camera lens also so be warn. I'm a tech review so I notice everything.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] k3mik4l:
For the price and specs alone plus the fact its a nexus make this purchase a no brainer IMO. I'm not doubting that what happened to the op could not happen to anybody in the real world but I've had mine since launch and its flawless, no touch issues or broken glass *knock on wood* . To say not to buy this amazing tablet because of a handful of people had defected units would be like people not buying the ps4 or Xbox one because of a low failure rate. To me its the chance you take with any purchase, unfortunately lemons do exist but unless there was a recall of some sort its probably very likely the majority of people will not have the same issue.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] Nexii:
I love how you point out gorilla glass like its supposed to not break under any circumstances. It is glass. Its going to shatter at some point. Bullet proof glass shatters, I expect a single sheet of glass to shatter.
[Nexus 7 (2013) General] igobytony:
My sentiments exactly! As pleased as I am with what I got for the price, I'd probably still want to have one back after several returns (if I'd gotten a bad one).
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
Hi Guys, I have looked high and low but cannot seem to find a definitive answer so to what to do.

Basically I have a Samsung S3 which about 5 months ago I rooted to enable me to use any network. Basically O2 who I used to have a contract with messed up somehow and on their records they could not find a IMEI number and so couldn't unlock, I was going round in circles and as I was moving abroad I had no other option.

Everything went fine and it is only now that I would like to update the OS to its latest version that when I go to the settings and update it says something about having a modified firmware (I think, another story altogether but I now broke the screen and so waiting for a replacement to fix it).

My questions are:

Will I ever be able to update normally via the settings menu again?

What is the latest stable Android update that I could use? KitKat?

Where is the best place to source the most recent Android distributions?

Basically I am just looking for a bit of advice on how to go about keeping my phone up to date with the latest features. I am not really interested in adding hacked functionality etc at this point.

Thanks
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] boomboomer:
If you unlocked your phone using the 'free' methods then updating to the latest rom will return the network lock or corrupt your efs folder, depending on how the unlock was achieved.

You can't use ota updates as you've modified your phone.

Sammobile is where you obtain the latest rom.

Also, questions go the q&a forum and all the above information is posted many times.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
Sorry for the wrong forum post.

So to be clear if I want to update I need to go to manually update the phone. Is this via kies or will it be more complex as my phone is now rooted / modded.?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ag4751:
As said, you wont get any updates via OTA if your phone is rooted,

Go to Sammobile.com, find the latest UK / Europe (BTU) generic rom it will be the version ending MJ9.

Download Odin and Guide here

Flash the rom using Odin, doing this will remove root access, once you have installed the rom, enter recovery mode and clear Cache / Dalvik Cache then factory reset (be aware this will wipe your phone and internal storage so copy any files to your PC first)

Boot the phone and set it up, then go to software updates on your phone and update the MJ9 version to MK6,

Now your phone will be fully stock and get OTA updates in the future plus you will have the generic UK and Europe firmware version (BTU) Android 4.3.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
Thank you so much, that is a nice clear guide :)

My last question is if people think it's good to update to 4.3 now? I read the UK was having issues with it?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JJEgan:
No wait for the next full build .

Read the faqs and guides as you wait .
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
Had a good read about, thanks for that.

Does anyone know or hazard a guess when next official jellybean release may be? Do they run on development cycles, or is this more an advice patch?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
Any ideas on if update coming soon that is good idea to flash with?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
Also if I install a new ROM I know everything is wiped, is there a way I can back up all my whatsapp convocations etc? Or will I need to install all the apps a fresh? Ie can I restore the phone as is now or will it be a case of each app installed from scratch?

Thanks so much for help so far, think I will update today.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ag4751:
Go to the sammmobile link in the previous post I suggested to you and download the UK (BTU) MK6 firmware, there is nothing wrong with that version, if you are already on a stock rom just flash this no need to do any factory resets, wipes.etc

If you are on a stock rom then flash the rom mentioned above it will not affect any of your apps they will still work the same unless you have root dependant app but then simply root your phone again using CF-Auto Root in my signature.

The times you have problems is when you have custom roms then going to a different custom rom or back to a stock rom, in these cases you need to do a full wipe and factory reset so you loose all data unless you have back it up.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Jumaqidi:
Factory reset will not wipe the internal sd card. So if u back up whatsapp conversations without ext sd card, factory reset will not wipe it.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
Thanks for that, I am downloading that ROM now.

When you say stock ROM, I did not go to a custom one but I did root my phone to allow it to be region free. I still get the O2 splash screen etc, so is it safe to say it is still stock and I can simply flash the new ROM without a factory reset?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ag4751:
Yes, my phone was Stock o2 when I got it in May 2012, first thing I did was flash the Generic BTU firmware to get rid on o2 stuff, I have never had to do a Factory reset nor wipe Cache, Dalvik Cache on my phone, it has always been rooted and apart for the MJ9 issues that Samsung had late last year it has worked fine, no lag, no random reboots, no freezing.

If you don't root you will get OTA updates, if you root you wont but you can still use Kies or Sammobile to update to any latest version releases, the factory reset will wipe pictures, music and your app data from your internal storage so if you back them up to your PC before a Factory reset you can replace them afterwards, but if you have not had any custom roms on your phone the need for a factory reset would be highly unlikely.
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bmouthboyo:
That's great, all went well today with the MK6 update listed above. I now see there is a MK7 update for jellybean from Israel. Worth going to this?
[Galaxy S III Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ag4751:
Choice on that is yours really.

Just because there is a higher number version doesn’t mean its an update from what you have unless it is based on the same version (eg BTU) if you have BTU MK6 and there was a BTU MK7 then that is an upgrade.

Where Isreal has MK7, India has ML4 this generally relates to how long and how many attempts they have in getting that country specific version ready for release, not an upgraded version of MK6.

You need to ensure that the rom you do install has multi CSC’s otherwise you could end up with no network signal or data.
[HTC First] nikpmr:
Hi all.

I'm trying to S-Off my HTC first, but I can't get the phone to connect to ADB while in debug mode. It connects to ADB fine while in recovery mode, but apparently it needs to be in debug mode for moonshine to work. The phone is unlocked and rooted and I installed the HTC drivers. In the device manager it comes up as an Android device in recovery mode, but as a portable storage device in debug mode.

Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong?
[HTC First] abrahammmmmmm_:
Does it show up when typing adb devices in the command prompt?
[HTC First] nikpmr:
Thanks for the reply.

No, not unless the phone is in recovery mode. Fastboot works as well. However when the phone is on and in debug mode I get nothing.
[HTC First] abrahammmmmmm_:
Hmmm sounds like what happened to me once it was a frustrating situation but all that was needed was an update to the ADB drivers for the device. Sadly I'm away from my computer right now so it'll be a while until I can actually whip something up to help you, sorry
[HTC First] killall-q:
Try to force ADB to redetect with adb kill-server.
[HTC First] nikpmr:
Okay, let me know when you have some time. Thanks again!

I tried the kill-server command to no avail. The computer just plain doesn't recognize it as an Android device. I will try on my Linux computer and see if that makes any difference.
[HTC First] abrahammmmmmm_:
Is your computer windows 7, 8 x32 or x64bit? I can probably do it today if you've got a windows 7 x64bit computer since I wont have to do much looking
[HTC First] nikpmr:
I'm running win 7 64 bit. Thanks again for your help!