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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] jah:
No, I was referring to the link. An employee of O2 has undertaken extensive testing and the news for 3G users using push email is not good (kills the battery!)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vapor:
which means that if this employee is usin it on his exec, it should be ready and we can expect to see it soon right?

hmm but if there is A2DP and it only works over WMP, does that mean we still cant use Skype through a wireless headset?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] chetccox:
I use skype through my bluetooth headset with no problem. It is not a stereo headset, but it works perfectly. If you wish to know how to do this, and you have a normal non-stereo headset, pm me for simple instructions - or I can post them here. I did not realize people were having a problem.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] chetccox:
I use skype through my bluetooth headset with no problem. It is not a stereo headset, but it works perfectly. If you wish to know how to do this, and you have a normal non-stereo headset, pm me for simple instructions - or I can post them here.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] belfast-biker:
Don't see much difference between this and checking email automatically every 15 minutes. I suppose the new AKU2 method might be easier on data overhead though, albeit heavier on battery.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vapor:
i know that tweak too that allows me to use the headset for skype but its not stereo.

i thought with the AKU2, we would be able to do it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] krassen:
mind sharing that tweat with us too????
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] chetccox:
I have skype installed on my qtek 9000, and wanted to be able to use it from my bluetooth headset (Jabra 250). I started skype from the qtek screen, and of course could not get the bluetooth audio to stay on for more than a few seconds. The cyberon voice dialer keeps starting up, and as soon as it is through waiting for sound, it shuts down and so does the bluetooth headset audio. I happened to create a voice tag to start skype, and made a 100% repeatable discovery. If I start skype from the headset, I have continuous audio. Even if I shut skype down in memory, running programs, the audio continues in the headset. This also means you can listen to mp3 files etc. on the headset until you push the headset button to turn off the audio lock. If I start skype from the qtek screen, this does not happen. Once I have the continuous audio connection, a simple press of the headset button reverts all to normal. Setup the voice tag in settings, voice speed dial, applications. Choose skype, and setup whatever tag you wish.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] freitasm:
He's an ex-O2 employee. We have to make it clear because there's no link to the company.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] ratclj01:
Not flaming you Jah, just the writer of this review

My first post and not flaming

But I cant see how push email will be any more battery and data consuming that having the device set to sync every 10 mins. I have mine set to that and I use about 20 - 25 mb a month and I view webpages.

I think it will be a big leap forward

2 other things that a totally incorrect about the review

The Messaging and Security Feature Pack adds some new features to the administrator’s arsenal, including Force Password, Password Reset and Device Reset. The first two are fairly obvious, but the third is an option to force the device to hard-reset to factory condition, in the event the device is lost or stolen. Note this feature doesn’t extend to any Storage folder on the device or an SD Card in the expansion slot.

Wrong, The remote wipe carrys out a clear storage and this will also clear the entire device. Granted the storage card wont be, but I am sure this will be resolved in future updates

The bigger question is the impact on Server performance a fleet of mobile devices constantly synchronising with it will have. Servers tend to be resource hungry at the best of times, and this will add to the load. More to come as live installations occur and people get stuck in – but Exchange Server 2003 SP2 is already known to require more power than earlier versions to run effectively.

I am sure normal syncs cause this and if you are running exchange you will have a system to cope with this

I think time will tell, but a think a real rival for RIM
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Southern_Man:
You're probably right. But it's early days isn't it.... hardly anyone has seen this software in a commercial environment, and the way people deploy exchange server can vary from company to company. I also don't think there are many companies (except Microsoft) who have large ActiveSync deployments sucking on the exchange server now, so it's hard to tell what could happen.

The interesting thing is that EVERYBODY will have work to do, not just O2. Orange, Vodafone, T-Mobile, I-Mate and so on - lots of keen people, lots of opportunities to tweak and get things write.

8)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] freitasm:
I am not the one who wrote the review, but some clarifications:

1.When MSFP initiates the sync cycle it will open an HTTPS connection to the server, with a long timeout. This means that regardless of traffic, the radio will always be transmitting and receiving. This is very different from your 10 minutes sync cycle, where the radio only transmits during that time.

2.The remote wipe does a clear storage as you state, and as you agreed the storage card is not erased. I can't see why you disagree on this then?

3.Server performance may be impacted because of the way the sync works. When the direct push is in use the HTTPS connection is initiated and the server is notified by the device of the current list of folders to be monitored. If any changes happen during the HTTPS connection availability this is immediately notified to the device and a synchronisation of that folder only happens. The extra load comes from the fact that the Exchange Server now has continuously monitor each folder, while an on-demand ActiveSync on a 10 minutes cycle does not require this monitoring to be on.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] freitasm:
By the way, edited the article to have my explanations 1 and 3 added to the appropriate sections.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] freitasm:
Almost true. There are lots of companies with large deployments. I used to work for a multinational company with 40,000 employees, using an Exchange Server infrastructure around the world. And I was in a push email trial (using Intellisync) back in 2004. This just to show that this is not a new concept, and companies have been working on this for some time now...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] tintoy:
freitasm, I always assumed that direct push events would be generated by MTA events for a given users, rather than some sort of polling of users mailbox fodlers? It would seem a little more efficent this way? I'm guessing tho!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] freitasm:
Probably it is because it would be better. I am not aware of the actual implementation - the events are only fired for the specific folders involved in the synchronisation, so some filtering is going on, which requires some processing anyway.

:roll:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] freitasm:
On Direct Push a HTTPS connection with a long timeout (determined by the server Timeout parameter) is established and kept alive. To reduce traffic and data charges the connection is not used until items are ready to sync. And to prevent unnecessary data usage only changed folders are synchronised. The monitoring is on the server side, and only on folders that are set to be monitored when the connection is established. This is the initial traffic - more folders more traffic.

http://blogs.technet.com/exchange/archive/2005/06/07/406035.aspx

When doing the manual ActiveSync the whole structure is synchronised, folder by folder and the traffic is higher, but the process is longer. The server is only participant during the ActiveSync, with no monitoring happening. When this type of sync starts each folder's content are compared with the current status on the Exchange Server at the time. The server does not store status on individual item if there's no direct push involved.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fergusstrachan:
Hey folks,

This is only an anecdotal result, but from my own limited testing of data transfer using push and 10-minute syncs, the push transmitted 190KB of data in the day (I know, I'm not that popular!) and the 10-min sync around 110KB.

Without even getting into the larger argument, including having to wait up to 10 mins for an email, this seems quite a difference.

Ferg.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ineedtoys:
That's assuming A2DP doesn't get pulled from AKU2.0 ...

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2006/02/16/windows-mobile-5-0-aku2-to-skip-a2dp-stereo-bluetooth/
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] fergusstrachan:
http://blogs.msdn.com/jasonlan/search.aspx?q=a2dp&p=1
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ineedtoys:
That's 3 months out of date though...
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
edit of original thread

OK here it is the news i succeeded to decompile original GB FM app and after days of corrections i got it work

i added my changes for audio etc and made a new app

it may have bugs so report them here

Install:

for those that dont have my previous fm app installed flash the zip in recovery or put each file on phone like the folders in zip

for all others install those 2 apk's as normal apps or puth them in system/app

ok seams some of you had some problems with force close

download again if you didnt seen this message when you made first download
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
a part of the project
[LG Optimus 3D] medohatem:
good work but when i flash give me (error 6)
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
try to download again i had a small error in script maybe it works now

im not good at scripts :D
[LG Optimus 3D] medohatem:
The flash work good now but after install the fm radio app force close when i try to open it
[LG Optimus 3D] krija:
FC for me too :(

Logcat in attachment
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
and again the freaking android is working on my phone but has problems on others

wth is wrong with this so is annoying

i will try to check using your logcat

i used android studio to do this project maybe i did something wrong but on my phone it works

EDIT:

try this new file tell me if is any difference ;

if you flashed zip copy the file to system/app and overwrite the old file on your phone

else install it over the previous one

also try fmradio2 if first not working and reply

thanks
[LG Optimus 3D] krija:
[MENTION=3613923]ilie321[/MENTION] with the first one it is same = FC when i try open the radio app.

the second one (fmradio2) works :D
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
yea is something with libs management i compiled same project with eclipse and works
[LG Optimus 3D] medohatem:
yes it work now one time only

i have to install the apk (fmradio2) every time i want to launch the radio

becouse it give me FC

:confused:
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
can you provide a logcat when you open the app ?

if you dont know how install alogcat from market(or any other app just search logcat) start it let it in background start fm second time to give you error

go back to alogcat save the log to a file and post it here
[LG Optimus 3D] medohatem:
Here is logcat
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
did you flashed the last zip from first post?

if you have been used zip dont install apks (if you did uninstall them)
[LG Optimus 3D] medohatem:
Ok i will try now and give feedback :good:
[LG Optimus 3D] adri_360:
I will try it

Enviado desde mi LG-P920 usando Tapatalk
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
oo
[LG Optimus 3D] medohatem:
now it work but fix the script ;)

it has (error 6)
[LG Optimus 3D] tensan:
It's working, but I can't listen the radio through the speaker. It soudns with very low volume, and I can't change it.
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
i use viper4android from there you can set many things for audio
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
Hey, I do have installed your "old" Radio and works just fine ! Thanks a lot ! :)

The ZIP that has FmRxApp2.2deu-ger-only.apk in it.

I do use PACMAN ROM v21.0 JB 4.2.2.

Now about this "new" Radio app. I wanted to try it, because I already love the design of it. :)

a.) Tried to just install it (version 2 actually started without freezing at once), still having your "old" radio installed.

It starts, asks for headset und superuser rights. No sound and while searching for radio stations the app freezes, giving me the message "Radio stopped working".

b.) I could not uninstall "old" Radio the "old fashioned way", as trebuchet-launcher stopped working then, so I had to to delete FmRxApp2.2deu-ger-only.apk from system/app. (are there any other remnants btw. ?)

Deleting FmRxApp2.2deu-ger-only.apk 1st resulted into a "Failed"...but then got deleted.

c.) Flashing ZIP via CWM also ends up in a Error (Status 6) - Installation aborted

d.) Copying the 2 apk files of the "new" Radio into system/app (after deleting old one) Installs the app (android updates message) but the Radio FC's on start (version2)
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
hey because you put it in system apps and installed it also is not good

delete fm apps from system/app also fmservice

uninstall them after if they are still show in settings -- applications

search in /data/data

folder com.lge.fmradio and delete it

folder com.ti.fmrxapp and delete it

folder com.ti.server and delete it

go to first post here and follow it

hope it helps
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
I went on to PACMAN ROM v21.3.

Flashing ZIP via CWM still ends up in a Error (Status 6) - Installation aborted. :crying:
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
it should work even if this happened
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
But the app is...not enlisted in apps :confused:

Also I realized that the "old" radio only plays for some seconds and then gets silent.

I have to tip the speaker/headphone symbol to listen again for some seconds...and repeat.
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
you use digital output or analog in settings?for it
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
The "old" Radio does not show analog/digital settings ?

http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-ha...20-optimus-3d/417523-app-ics-jb-fm-radio.html
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
Installed this via CWM, restarted, it did still not show up in apps.

Went to system/app and installed FmRxApp3.2.3.apk manually.

This one works ! :D

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=50677659&postcount=14

Using digital !
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
as old i meant to say this one http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2571120
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
But this is the thread we are in. (?) :o

But I think you meant that, regardless of "Error 6", I should just go to system/app and will find a FmRxAppXXXX.apk that I can install anyway ? (after flashing the zip with error 6)
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
yes

but try this also and see if error 6 remain

also you can try this

after install the zip go to system app and cut com.lge.fmradio.apk and FmRadioProvider.apk and service1.apk to sdcard reboot phone go to sdcard and install them as normal apps
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
I tried flashing the radio on nameless ROM KitKat (4.4.4) :

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2772543

Ofc it failed.

Any chance you might continue working on this project regarding KitKat :confused:
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
can you give me some details ?
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
Sure, sorry :

a.) Flashing your zip via CWM still results into error (6) and no radio app would show up afterwards.

-re-flashed kitkat ROM - all wipes + format /system

b.) Copying the 3 files into /system/app setting permission to 0644 results into :

"app got stopped message".

-re-flashed kitkat ROM - all wipes + format /system

c.) Flashing only MOD_FM.zip from following link starts the app, you can see word "FM-Radio" at top, but nothing else will happen, except for "Super User Rights got granted for Radio"...popping up again and again.

http://www.android-hilfe.de/root-ha...lg-optimus-3d/417523-app-ics-jb-fm-radio.html

-re-flashed kitkat ROM - all wipes + format /system

d.) Desperate try copying the file "FmRxApp2.2deuv4.apk" from same link above to "/system/app", (after your Radio got installed) setting it to 0644 and restarting device will lead to :

"app got stopped message" as well.

The link explains to copy the file "FmRxApp2.2deuv4.apk" to /system/app/ if there would already be an installed radio (2.2) by ilie321 / defcomg.

-re-flashed kitkat ROM - all wipes + format /system :o

I can do that all again later this day, providing you some cat log files, if you like. :cowboy:
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
download the file from here http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=52885002&postcount=30

open archive delete the folder system\etc\firmware

copy the rest off the files to corresponding folders of your phone except "system\app" folder ; reset phone and install those 3 apk from "app" like normal apps.

see if fm works if not give me a logcat when you stating fm
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
Where to copy the META-INF folder from your archive ?

I guess it is obsolete as its usually part of a jar file ?

For example "fmradioif.jar" in /system/framework.

Permission on /system/bin/ tinymix is unclear to me...files in this folder have 2 different permissions (0777 & 0755) -> I start with (0755)...(0777) didnt change a thing

Permission of /system/etc/permissions com.ti.fm.fmradioif.xml should be (0664) as all other files in that folder.

Permission of /system/framework/ fmradioif.jar is clear (0644)

Permission of /system/lib libfmradio.so is clear (0644)

Also I remember that the 3 apks hat to be installed in a proper order back in Gingerbread times :

1.) FmService.apk = service1.apk

2.) FmRadioProvider.apk = FmRadioprovider.apk :p

3.) FmRadio.apk = com.lge.fmradio.apk

Done.

App starts :) , but seems to freeze and no sound.

Disabling analog / enabling digital results into :

a.) "Not able to setRssiThreshold!!!"

b.) "Cannot set Rds System to selected Value!!!"

c.) "Cannot setChannelSpacing to selected Value!!!"

d.) "Cannot set De-Emp Fileter to selected Value!!!" (yes, Fileter) ;)

I also cannot tap any buttons except for search "radio stations", but nothing will happen anyway.

I can save the "preset" channel.

I can not set the volume inside the radio.

Closing the app seems to be tricky...as it will always stay as Icon in the upper left.

Catlog soon :)
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
Catlog has some :

Unable to open /dev/radio0

and also shows the errors already mentioned. :/

And then at line 536 :

07-03 19:40:15.697 E/AndroidRuntime( 2054): FATAL EXCEPTION: main

07-03 19:40:15.697 E/AndroidRuntime( 2054): Process: com.lge.fmradio, PID: 2054

07-03 19:40:15.697 E/AndroidRuntime( 2054): java.lang.NullPointerException

followed by "com.lge.fmradio"

Broken, disposed...I better hand the catlog to you now ^^

http://pastebin.com/zYfLRYLu
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
yea seams the kernel not have radiofm implemented so last chance is to try with another kernel and see if any changes

metainf dont need to be copied; permissions is ok as you did

after you made all from my previous post flash another kernel and see if any changes
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
Okay, thank you so far.

My knowledge about kernel flashing is, that I could use an app like "Flash Image GUI" or CWM itself, to flash a new kernel as ZIP file.

Also, if I understood right, if I flash a "wrong" kernel and device wont work with it, I can always go back into CWM and flash another kernel ?

However, I have absoluteley no idea which kernel could fit into this nameless KitKat ROM at all.

I read that there are Froyo, Gingerbread, ICS and JellyBean kernels, that would only work with the desired Android Version. (?)

Could end up in a trial&error mission ?
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
you can try ics or jb kernels maybe i dont know if it will work

from recovery install the zip same as you tried to install the zip of my fm app

if is not compatible you can try another from recovery or reflash the rom(maybe only boot.img) to get original kernel back
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
I know that a Froyo developer phone and a port of these radio apps to Gingerbread made it possible to listen to radio on our phone.

Someone took the idea even further and made it possible to listen to radio on ICS. :D

Now my question would be, did STOCK Froyo/Gingerbread & ICS Kernels have the "radio option" built in the kernel ?

And thats why people were able to "modify" just the radio apks from Froyo/Gingerbread,

to make em work on the next "kernel" (ICS) ?

Is that why porting was possible in the 1st way ? The "radio" was there all the time (in the kernel) ?

Or were other "tricks" used as well to port the radio apks ?

Lets say Id use the Stock ICS kernel from 4.0.4. Changes are high that the phone wouldnt even start up using Kitkat 4.4.4, right ?

Sorry, but my knowledge about kernels is limited for now and I only know you should use "fitting" kernels.

The O3D scene is not dead yet, but it became silent and I dont want to open up a new thread every time I need to ask questions. A thread that might stay unanswered anyway.

A thread that might be answered somewhere already, deep inside other threads. :cool:

troopii just told me, that it is indeed the kernel from JB / ICS (3.1) in this kitkat ROM and that he added fuse, audit and activated selinux service and merged cgroups.

He said it could be missing rights in selinux and that other kernels will probably end in a bootloop.

Or something maybe went missing fom the ramdisk. (?)

Maybe you got the time to have a look at kernel in troopis github or a look at the ramdisk in the devie tree ? ^^

Hope that helps, as it is not my world Im typign about. ;D
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
Check if it exists object radio0 in dev folder of your rom. I don't know anything about kernels. Ics kernels works all for fm you can try them see if phone starts
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
Most files in the dev folder are named "12:35 filename" and then there is a file called "12:35 radio0". Permission 0600 rw-----.

Nearly all files in dev folder are size 0,00 byte. :eek:

I cannot open these files, root browser says "file not found".

Then root browser stops working and closes.

So I guess these files are not there (yet).

Would I need even more files to be ready in the dev folder to make the radio work ?

I also think copying "a working" radio0 file to the dev folder and rename it to "12:35 radio0" wouldnt work here, right ?
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
Is normal 0 size no problem except the name of files if is not a file called radio0 my app won't work. So kernel is the problem. No you can't create a file and put it there. Those files are like shared objects. Did you tried ics kernels?

Maybe it is an error in kernel source; don't think files must be called 12:....
[LG Optimus 3D] itsmemario:
troopii might join this discussion when he fixed the camera and bluetooth on the nameless ROM, until then I might re-think the idea of flashing another kernel, but as troopii said, it should be the JB/ICS kernel already. And I also dont know enough about kernels.

I know I will have to flash another boot.img and I know it has to be done via adb by entering fastboot mode, as I use CWM.

I also know that there are apps that can flash boot.img files from within android itself.

Im also aware, that except for a bootloop, I could get a brick.

I will have to read more about kernels and flashing, before I try it, even if troopi said it will (possibly) fail.

Maybe I wait for a even more stable version of this ROM, before I get back to the FM radio idea.

Anyway, a big thanks to you already, ilie321, for explaining and making the FM radio at least start on KitKat ! :D

Would be great to be able to add FM radio to the p920 once again ! Even on KitKat ! :good:
[LG Optimus 3D] ilie321:
I flashed many kernels on my phone and if is not compatible it rest in boot loop but you can enter in recovery and restore a backup or reflash the rom. I use twrp for all this things