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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Redstarr1:
Well yes it's an AOSP ROM, it shouldn't contain a bunch of apps. If you're referring to installing other ROMs, would those be stock based? Because those are a very different thing. Did you install gapps? You'll need that to have Google apps, Google it. There are very good PA gapps.

Edit: I had a typo that kind of reversed what I was going to say. I believe that the amount of apps you get with a ROM is inverse with the quality and as such there should be as few as possible. I think even Google is starting to bundle too many apps with Nexus phones.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mentalghost:
Can I have some input on this rom please for stability on latest beta version is it ok for daily use for calls text wattapppy video email etc.

Also does this rom come with kernel or do I need to flash to another one ??
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] airwolf1544:
Beta6 is great. No reboots and still smooth after one day of use. Kernel is included. Only probs with voip. Absolute a daily driver.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] valetto:
Beta 6 paranoid ota update app showing error. It cannot identify the rom have to manually diwnload the next beta update i guess.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] genecis:
Try clearing data of the paranoid OTA app. Otherwise you can always download it manually ;)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mythoss:
Why kernel don't support performance governor?

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] deedwar:
Much better performance based governors that i have implimented, so the performance governor is obsolete.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Kyxynox:
Sorry guys if I ask this. Are screenshots fixed in the latest build?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] moe18:
No issue still persist
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mithab:
How many hours of screen on time are you guys getting on 3g? My phone dies after 2.5 hours of screen on time with 6 hours on battery. I'm thinking about replacing my battery that's why I'm asking this.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] AnrgKrshn:
Sounds about right, mate. Similar battery performance. On any ROM I use.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
I've found a pretty good battery tweak, especially if your phone takes some time to wake from deep sleep:

Get Trickstermod and make everything below 702 MHz (including 702 MHz) 800 mV. Then, set your minimum CPU frequency to 702 MHz. The frequencies up ahead, I haven't had time to test much, but what I have concluded is that 756 MHz should only be undervolted for 25mV or else the system will become very unstable, leading to reboots if the app is set to modify the values at boot.

I've been running this for about 9 hours now and it's showing in better overall performance, but, at least in theory, the battery life should not decrease (since it's running the same voltage as the lowest two frequencies).

Again, I haven't had time to test above 756 MHz, but setting 702 to 800 mV and as min CPU freq should not impact stability or battery life.

EDIT: And before anyone asks or tries it, do not let the app set the values at boot unless you're 100% certain that no reboot will occur from your tweaking! The only way to really be certain is to test with trial and error, then build your own kernel with these values inside.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Master Limbe:
This is interesting. Based on your experience with it, is it the expected trade off of stamina vs performance? I mean, does the phone become overly slow? Also, how does this interact with your governor and scheduler profiles?

Indeed, it is I.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
No, the deal is the same as with the default frequency being 384 instead of 192 MHz. Both are set to the same voltage, and so it's pointless to take the slower clock as the minimum -- you can do more with the same amount of power.

See, the frequencies below 756 are only set to 800 mV, meaning they all sip the same amount of juice.

They all take the same amount of energy from your battery in a specified time period (say, t = 1 min). BUT the higher frequencies need less time to complete the task at hand, meaning they won't drain your battery as long as the lower frequencies (because t(highfreq)=1 minute but t(lowfreq)=3 minutes, for example), resulting in less drain.

And as we all know, high frequencies result in more power and more smoothness. But we're all afraid of overclocking because of the impact on the battery. Now, the impact is the same as at the lower frequencies, and since 702 MHz is the lowest frequency available to your phone, it's much, much faster (up to 1,5x if my benchmark tests aren't completely off).

There's also no need for the phone to jump frequencies at wakeup (from 192 to 384, then step by step to 702), as it would normally do, since 702 is enough for it to handle the lockscreen and homescreen.

EDIT: Though this might produce excess heat but that hasn't happened to me yet (running at 702 being min and max). In fact, I've had it cooler than when I had 384/192 as my min frequency because the CPU doesn't need to work as long as before before getting back to sleep.

(temperature data by 'CPUtemp in statusbar' Xposed module, stress testing by RealPi benchmark)

EDIT2: Take anything you see on the Internet with a grain of salt. If a voltage is stable for me, it may not be for you. Again, make backup plans in case anything goes wrong.

Also a question for Deedwar if he ever gets to read this (don't like tagging people): Why did you not do overclocking in the acpuclock-8x60.c file? Frequencies above 1674 aren't even defined in there, how the heck does this phone even work then? :S
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] airwolf1544:
Great idea. I'll test it. The phone feels extreme fluid. Big THX

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Master Limbe:
This is important information. For me the 800mV would cause my phone reboot. I have mine set at 825mV and it's works fine. After a few hours of testing, I can attest that it does seem to improve battery life by a little bit; after all, it's only "active" during deep sleep and general standby situations.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] tebra:
Same for me. Thank you
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] deedwar:
To be honest i cant even remember why i did it the way i did. It would be similar to someone else's commit on another kernel. I nomally try to use there commit by cherry-picking so i and everyone else who looks at my source can see how i got what i did but it must have been very much different that it was easier just to do it myself.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] saumil007:
Found any way for fixing screenshots ? Or we would have to stay without screenshots forever! :o :(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] deedwar:
I pushed the code to paranoid to fix but because it is something that only effects our device and it is being pushed to source code that effects every device it is just waiting for the powers that are to do with it what they will. If that doesnt get added it will most likely never get fixed. You will have to wait till they release hover properly and then i can build a seperate version.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] saumil007:
Ohkay thanks!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lodotux:
PA OTA does'nt seem to detect my version of rom. I'm on beta6. I've already cleared the apps data but it's doing nothing more.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] saumil007:
It will be fixed in beta 7.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] airwolf1544:
I've tested a bit.. at 702Mhz my phone needs 0,8375V to run stable. at 648Mhz it needs 0,825V. But at 594Mhz are 0,8V enough.. so i set the minimum frequenzy to 594Mhz and everything is fine :D

The phone is so much better now :good::angel::cool:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] tebra:
Hi deedwar

do you have a patch for the audio SIP bug? The other people can't hear me during hangout video call. What can I do to help you to fix it?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mithab:
I underclocked to 1237.5mv at 1.7ghz. It's still working.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lunatiic:
Overclocking/Underclocking is not as simple as changing voltages and seeing if It reboots or not. Lower voltages may "work" on your chip but it might become highly unstable. Do a stability test and check it for yourself: the processor will struggle.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mithab:
From my experience with computers, it either works or it doesn't. I've never seen a processor "struggle". If the voltage is too low it will crash. And I've run a stress test and it worked fine.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
Phones aren't your normal K-edition desktop CPU.

Too little voltage can cause as much if not more issues than too much voltage. Yes, that includes overheating (which is bizzare imo).

Lunatiic is right, it's not about whether it runs, it's about how long will it be able to do so, and will it be able to cope with 100% CPU load on that frequency for, say an hour (a bit extreme but it shows the purpose).

Even on a desktop, you (hopefully) do a stress test to see if your voltages and frequencies are okay. Here, it's similar, but the test must be done for each frequency separately (something called a scaling stress/stability test). If you haven't seen a processor struggle either you've never done OC, you did it really wrong, are really lucky, or know very well what you're doing.

But again, it's not the same as a desktop, so most of the testing methodologies from there do not work.

I can only conclude that you either did no testing at all of your new undervolted setup, or did it in an incorrect manner, useful on PCs, but not so much on SoCs.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mgrinwis:
bikeriderr experienced an error with Spotify, see quote.

I could reproduce his error easily; the error-log has been added to this post. The log starts when Spotify is started and ends when the screen turns black (after pressing "sing-in"). The phone becomes unresponsive when the screen turns black.

Hope this is the right place for the error-log.

If not, please notify me where I could post them since the bug report page doesn't allow uploading files.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] munipally.vijay:
how to install this ROM. please share the steps to install:(
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] valetto:
Make a separate flashable zip if you have fixed the screenshot. Its ok for me and others i guess if we are not going to get it officially as long as the screenshot issue is solved. :)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] tebra:
I think that deewer can not do that because the source of this rom is not yet totally avalable
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lunatiic:
So you have never overclocked. In a desktop you should at least run prime95/OCCT/Intel Burn test in a blend test to check both the menory and cpu if you increased bus speed. Reboots are the ultinate warning to tell you the cpu can't even idle on that vcore. Instability doesn't mean your cpu won't work, it means it won't behave properly in certain tasks, from gaming to booting your device/pc and it can even damage the chip.. It's like trying to move a truck using a scooter engine in order to use less gas... Think about it
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Toxen:
I'm having the exact same result with Spotify on the PureSlim-KitKat R1 rom.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mithab:
Actually cpus idle at even lower voltage. And lowering voltage gives errors in prime95 or intel burn test. Which is unstable. And computers aren't like truck engine. They are either 1 or 0. So your processor may not be getting enough voltage but it won't get damaged. Processors don't die that easily.

And my phone didn't crash while stressing or give errors. So my chip may be really good.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] mgrinwis:
UI-Crashes

PA Beta 6 is running for about four days now and I'm experiencing some UI-crashes that I didn't have in the previous versions.

The UI crashes when I draw down the status bar and then select an app option.

Until now I've had UI-crashes when I: (1) pause a playing song (2) press 'ignore' a just set alarm or (3) when I want to disable my alarm after pressing snooze. To disable the set alarm after snoozing you either have to wait until the alarm rings again or go to the app and disable it. These crashes are not random but happen (at least with me) each time when I use the draw-down status bar to select an option of either the Walkman-app or the clock-app (standard android).

Error logs are in the enclosure

EDIT: In PA-Beta7, the UI-crash issue has been resolved. Selecting additional features of an app in the draw-down menu works perfect in Beta7. Thanks for the trouble deedwar!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lodotux:
Is there a way to get thème chooser on this rom ? It looks like I can't apply a theme.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
You can't apply the theme because it requires Theme Chooser, a thing that is for now (as far to my knowledge) limited to some TMo phones and CM.

And if I remember correctly, someone from the PA team said they'd include Theme Chooser after the CM team completes the new version.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] deedwar:
You can use xposed and HK theme manager to change the theme on paranoid.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bamboohao:
Do you have a link to the statement? Because from what I see they are against it, as it breaks hybrid engine.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Redstarr1:
It would be tough breaking hybrid engine when it's not there :p. The guys at PA sometimes change their minds, there's no Theme Chooser at the moment anyway but you never know what will happen a year from now. I also think Theme Chooser won't be coming back because they prefer to do as little kang'ing as possible.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] wxl104:
what's changed in beta7,I am use beta6,but has same random reboot.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bikeriderr1:
Ive had a few random reboots since ive installed beta 6. The ROM is pretty stable and i like it. Though i do have a few questions. Spotify doesnt work, when i want to log in, screen goes black and i have to reset it with volume up and power but. The video camera is Nice but when i want to film it takes several seconde before filming starts from the moment i push the rec button. And the last thing i have is the date. When i reboot the phone, date is set somewhere in 1971. Anybody recognizes those problem,?

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bamboohao:
Pretty sure they have some internal testing and such but you get what I mean. And I actually like the new theme chooser but judging from the road the PA team is taking, which I hate, I'm not optimistic at all.

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I experienced none of your problem, there are people reporting about the Spotify bug but I can log in, on the old and the new version of the app.

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Like what I've say for a lot of time, check their google+ page,

https://plus.google.com/111629271059352473969/posts/dDMfxZX8EYm
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
What is there not to like about the way they work? They're actually making new things, bringing innovation to the Android world again. Even if they don't open-source their innovations (which they don't have to, it is theirs after all), their ROM is innovative and as close to AOSP as possible, but still providing tons of new, useful features.

It's like what the Cyanogenmod team once did. Once...

Since then, it's no longer its goal to stay really close to AOSP, their work is bad, and innovation is almost not there anymore.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bamboohao:
It's a matter of personal opinion, I like to have options in my ROM, others like to stay clean and stock. I love hover, and I believe I will love hybrid when it's out, but at the same time I would like to have the option to set the timeout or whatever else like that. Human are different, there is no one setting that fits all, so it's nice to be given the option. Of course, I fully understand when they said they don't give us the option because some user are stupid enough to max out the timer for peek and then complain about battery life, and I have seen some that act even more stupid than that.

And to make it clear for the PA team, they are not close sourcing their source. What they want currently is to release the code somewhere later when they think it's stable and bugless enough for the user. So whatever (hover, peek, pie) will be open sourced, just a matter of time.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
Was suggesting that in the possible event of they not open-sourcing the features the action would be completely justified (aka they don't have to since it's theirs anyways).

And despite the lack of the things you want to see added, you stay with PA. This is how ROM developing should be -- not turning into a company and leaving barely anything of the old almighty name, making people stay not because of the name, but because of what it really is. (Oh I miss the old CM ;-; )
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bikeriderr1:
OK thats strange. Die you also flashed snot het kernel? And what about the date setting?

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bamboohao:
I assume that you are asking did I changed my kernel, the answer is no, it's the kernel that came with the ROM, I did changed some setting for the kernel, but I believe it couldn't cause the issue.

Date is still 2014
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Redstarr1:
I also haven't had reboots since Beta 6, the bug that came from CM was fixed in that version so you really shouldn't be having reboots. Spotify is also working without problems, I'm streaming right now. Kernel is completely stock, no other modifications, no Xposed ... Also no overclocking, but the GPU is overclocked by default so you might try putting it back to stock values, not every GPU is the same and maybe yours can't handle it. If you install TricksterMod, you will see the GPU Max Frequency is 320 and stock is 266. But I don't see how the rebooting and Spotify not working are related. Have you tried just clearing Dalvik cache? Otherwise a full reinstall might be necessary.

I'm having horrible battery life though. Anyone else getting this, probably related to the GPU overclock? I had set TricksterMod to stock settings but now I see it overclocked again on its own... I have read that tip to put min frequency a bit higher and undervolt on 800mV, so I'll be trying that later on. I was just wondering how much the GPU overclock impacts battery life.

Also, bamboohao, it looks like the expanded options for Peek have been put in the separate app that's available in the Play Store. Not free unfortunately.. I'm considering buying it since I use PA on several devices, but it's a bit unfortunate that they don't just include it in the ROM and leave us the option of donating if we want to (because I would, since I'm a respectable working citizen now, ahum :p).
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
Try undervolting it altogether (not just the low frequencies). Iirc, I managed ~50mV altogether, then did some extra tweaking for the low frequencies.

The GPU has (or should have) a minimal impact on battery life. But unless you play games that need the extra Hertz from the GPU, just put it back to stock or even a tad lower.

The case with me was that the GPU made the phone hotter for some reason... Put it to 228, enough to drive what I need it to (don't play 3D games -- 2D humblebundle goodness to the max! :D)
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bamboohao:
I know about the app, it's not meant to be a donation version of peek though, it just happen to have the option the original peek should have lol

I am considering buying it, but I'm waiting for a few bug to be squash first, the app looks a TON prettier than the original one, which is too ugly for my taste ?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lunatiic:
Is it just here or peek is not working all the time? Sometimes I pickup my phone and nothing happens, and sometimes it works. Sometimes it's just laying on the table and peek works :confused:
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bikeriderr1:
OK thanks. Did a dalvik cache wipe again and date is set to normal. Which gapps have u used? Do you maybe have a link?

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OK thanks. Can u tell me which gapps u use? And do u maybe have a link ? I think i might have the wrong gapps
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] piyush95:
The latest beta is so awesome...

No random systemui crash..No random reboot...

Just loved it...
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Redstarr1:
I use PA gapps, stock package: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397942. But I used to use the full modular package as well. Did you have any reboots before recently or have you only just started using PA?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bikeriderr1:
I used full modular package and stock package. With both i cant get spotify to work. It keeps jamming. Yesterday i wiped dalvik cache again but no effects. The reboots started when i startend using pa.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Lodotux:
Looks like I won't stay long on this rom. I'm always losing data or internet connection and there is nothing I can do to restore them.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] saumil007:
K Bye.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
When will you people learn that bugs can't be fixed without the devs seeing the issue.

How can they see the issue? Logs!
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] piyush95:
I don't have any issues with wifi or mobile data...

For me this build is perfect...

BTW can someone tell me how peek works?

Is it like Active display?

Does it drain battery?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] :
here
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] YYvo:
Not suppose to drain battery as peek listens to notifications. If present then it pulls accelerometer and proximity sensors for 10 seconds. If those are activated (ex. Pickup phone) it shows peek screen ,i f not it shuts down until next notification.

So, on paper and as i noticed in real life it has minor if not neglible battery impact.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Mirhawk:
You should put Your image in hide tag. Not everybody like to waste their bandwidth.
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] someone755:
Your parents must be so proud.

How about this? http://www.xda-developers.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/07/Logcat.jpg
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] :
So must be yours :P Nice cat though
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Phantasm4489:
screenshot / app preview

I've spent some significant amount of time trying to figure out what the root cause of the broken screenshot and app/preview. I'm still drawing a blank after a lot of debugging and staring blankly at the source code. Since you guys are still stuck without a fix I have put together a bit of a hack to help you guys.

Attached is a modded libandroid_runtime.so based on beta 7 build 28-May-2014 (pa_nozomi-4.3-BETA7-20140528.zip)

IMPORTANT: don't attempt to use this on anything other than this build as it will probably give you a nice bootloop. Try it at your own risk

Extract the libandrioid_runtime.so file from the zip and copy this over the top of the existing file in /system/lib (and make sure the permissions are set correctly) and the problem should be solved (at least till the next build is completed). Remember this is not an update zip - you need to apply this manually.

The easiest way to install this is to copy the file over to your sd card and use the TWRP file manager to copy this over to the system/lib directory.

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[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] saumil007:
What permission ? Rw-r-r ?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Phantasm4489:
yep
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] bamboohao:
My runtime (ART) doesn't affect the functionality of this fix right? Saw the file name, just to be sure ?
[Sony Xperia S, Acro S, Ion] Phantasm4489:
I don't know much about ART to be honest but i highly doubt it - this stuff is low level ARM machine code so it shouldn't matter if you are using ART or not.