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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Interactive:
Smartskey is great!

I'm using the Smartskey app with my 8125 and things are going well. I've enabled the "close" option for the right smart key rather than hiding, but there are several apps I wanted to leave out on the exception list. Namely the Goodlink versions of Contacts, Tasks, Calendar, etc. The problem is that when I look at the memory tool under "Running Programs" these apps are listed with spaces in front of the program name. They appear like this:

[ ]Contacts

[ ]Tasks

[ ]Calendar

ActiveSync

Phone

Where the [] represent about 4 spaces....

I tried to enter those program names with 4 spaces in the exception list on Smartskey.ini but it didn't work. It's closing those apps completely.

Any ideas on how I can exclude those apps by finding the real program name to enter in the .ini file?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kinson:
hi water,

it's a great software, but can it assign to the other program. coz i would like to hold the button in order to rotate the screen instead of close the program...can it be done...??thx...

kinson
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
Re: New version 0.2

i don't think this is a bug:

if selecting ok via screen-tap input, the app does not close... only minimize.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
0.2 bug

buggie-boo: when closing adobe acrobat reader 2.0 using smatskey, system freezes and requires soft-boot.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: 0.2 bug

Thanks, I have rewritten the close function, and released version 0.3. Please see if it fix the problem.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] txschafers:
Can you provide a link to this program? I have been tryingt o find one since I would like to try this on my 8125.

Thanks!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] txschafers:
Can you post a link to the smartkey program?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
Re: 0.2 bug

you do not need to thank me at all. i/we give you BIG THANK YOU for caring to make the 8125 an almost perfect device now that it can use simple button start and ok/close.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Silentz:
First post of this thread has a link to it.

Just d/l this app by the way - it's brilliant. having to try and press tiny start/ok buttons in the corners of the screen was driving me mad!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
Re: 0.2 bug

confirm that 0.3 closes acrobat reader with no hang
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
the file is in the first post.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] txschafers:
I downloaded the Zip file but when I click on the .exe file I cannot get it to load on my 8125. How do I get this program on my device?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JNGold:
Copy the .exe to your PPC.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] fat@ivan:
Hi water

can u make a simplify Ver. ?

Remap volume button Only ver

thank
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] TcT:
I think you can configure it not to remap the softkeys just the volume key.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Silentz:
OK I feel a bit dumb for asking this but I just can't work it out...

When I installed this app, it automatically made a shortcut in my startup folder... however, it doesn't work, it just displays the "cannot start this program as it may be missing a component" or whatever dialog box...

so, i deleted the shortcut thinking "that's ok i'll just start it manually from now on"

but whenever i reset the device, the smartskey shortcut reappears in the startup folder and it errors again. It's as if my changes to the startup folder are not being saved.

can anyone shed any light on why this is happpening? can i force a save of the state of my startup folder before i reset?

thanks in advance
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hdcl:
I am having the magically appearing shortcut in my starup folder as well. I manually created a shortkut called Smart Skey. On soft reset, another shortcut called smartskey is automatically created in the Startup Folder. Everytime I manually delete the smarkskey shortcut and soft restart, it reappears.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Silentz:
Yeah that's the exact same problem, except i haven't created my own shortcut so I just have the magic lazarus shortcut...

good to see its not just me!

any ideas?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] txschafers:
This must be linked to the program Smartskey. I assume you both have it loaded right?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JNGold:
There's an entry in the smartkey.ini file called STARTUPONBOOT. If it's set to 1 then it probably places the shortcut in the startup folder.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Silentz:
That's the one! Sorted. You win the jnGOLD! medal.

Thanks very much
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hholliday:
So far it has worked. Thanks again!!!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] toshe:
Great, Hholliday! Same here.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] p50kombi:
Any news on the new version release?

Hey..

Is there any news on the new version of Smartskey?

I absolutely love this program :D , but really miss the directionall button functionality in TomTom 5.21

I can now only turn up and down volume, but I really miss the zoom functionallity you have without smartskey on the up and down direction...

So, hope to have a new version soon, but please could you update on your progress?

The tension is killing me!!! :lol:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] TKardinal:
Re: Not scrolling in Opera mobile browser

I don't know.

I'm having the same issue on my MDA.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] man2003:
It is not workign at all with my Atom Exec...

:(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] papizdono:
hi...

first of all, the best app ever on wizard!

Can you make also the same stuff for other buttons? Like for instance CAMERA, if you could add a HOLD action to it to open pictures, and like for Messages, HOLD action for loading another email app (for other accounts), and like IE button if HOLD would open OPERA, we would double the keys... i know the VITO Button mapper does the job, but it kinnda kills my softbutttons, cannot set actions, dons find the menu for it... and you app is so small and does all that...

cheers
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] phurst451:
Use Vol key for *Vol* on Today?

Hope I didn't miss this before, buton my Wizard, I set PAGEONEEXPLORE=0, but the the Vol key is dead on the Today page. What if I want it to still control phone ring vol?

Also, I'm using spb Pocketplus and would like the RSKey hold to pull down the close button context menu. Doable?

Love the app.

-PH
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] theshrink:
So, i posted this before but got no answer. I installed the app on my girl's phone and mine and it seems everytime i do a soft reset a few minutes after the pie button stops opening pie and instead closes stuff. So I go and I change the button to something else then back to pie and it seems to work for a while and then stops again. It must be happening on more phones since it happens and her and my phone. We both have a T-Mobile MDA USA. Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mattucd:
There's not going to be anymore updates for this program, the author doesn't seem to have any desire to continue working on it :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] dpn:
FINALLY!!!

I had an older version, and I could never get it to run after a soft reset, always had to go find it and click on it.

Now I FINALLY have it working, and just had to put a copy of it everywhere it said it couldn't run it from, and do a couple soft resets. Now it works fine, and I like this version better anyways, as I can set volume on the today screen!

Was just about ready to give up, and just delete the program, but glad a hung in there, and read all these posts.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] nidecta:
thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bydandie:
Is that fact of supposition?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mattucd:
No, but that's an oxymoron.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] abuawab:
hi water

i installed your software and it is pretty nice

being as stupid as i should be , i copied the .exe file to the start up- can u tell me how to fix that?

who can i re-jain the volume control button again?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Firstly, I am still alive, will release update very soon. If you copied .exe to startup. run smartskey.exe once again you can stop the program. and then you can move it or delete it.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] papizdono:
Hi Water!

First off all, your app kicks ass :)

If you are planning on developing the software and making it to set other keys like the softkeys (the HOLD function), and if we could setup what will be executed, im more then happy to contribute some $ to your project, and i think most of users are also...

I just hate programs like vito buttonmapper and others like it, which take like 300k of memory just to have a button mapped, when at your case the app takes 20k and does the job perfectly...

Thanx for the app, its realy most used app on my wizzard..

btw. are you planning on upgrading your phone to tytyn ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ocbeta:
Great APP!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks so much!

This makes one handed operation (similar to treo 700) so much easier.

Thanks again!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] dragonetti:
Sorry but can somebody please explain how to get the OmapClock (http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=40403) started automatically...

I read this post on page six (http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=235332#235332).

- I created a directory "OverClock" in MyDocuments and copied the following files: omapclock.exe , smartskey.exe and smartskey.ini in it.

- I deleted the period and comma sign => ; in the ini file, on the line where it says: ;OMAPCLOCK=264.

- I ran smartskey.exe

Is this the correct way to get the the overclock function from omapclock.exe working??

Or did I forgot something?

(the basic features work perfectly, my compliments!)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sbolshakov:
Guys, where can I find 0.53 version? The last version attached to the thread is 0.52 :(
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pierro78:
Right Softkey menu disappears, Map4DPA application closed :(

first I need to say that Smartskey is a very nice utility :)

Now the issue (also here : http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...o-ask-com-virtual-earth-msn-3.html#post571881)

Any idea to solve this issue ?

For example would it be possible to completely disactivate smartskey for a given application ? or only disactivate smartskey for a given key in a given application ?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mattucd:
He's working on it right now! Just wait a few more days and it will all be ready!

:roll:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Conchas:
Someone experiences auto unload of Smartskey from memory?

It seems to happen with me.

Volume slider and DPAD, stops making effect spontaneously after some time, and I need to run Smartskey again (in fact it doesn't ask if it is to close).
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Conchas:
Also do you get an error message every softreset, while system tries to load smartskey.exe via link file from Startup folder?

I get it always! Must acknowledge, and run the link manually again...

The error message gotten is bellow:

"The file 'smartskey' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. You might need to reinstall or restore this file."

I've it running from storage card.

And Security check is properly disabled at my device via appropriate CAB file.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] theshrink:
Why is it when I am in the message program and i go to the topmost message and hit the center button on the d-pad, it highlights the bottom message instead of opening the top one? However it only does this when there is a new message...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] medmansri:
What is it that's going to be different or better in the new version 0.53?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Conchas:
@xdame

You may find it writen at first post of this thread!

Is ussually where the author posts its app changes, in this kind of threads.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] newmaduser:
Where to download smartskey.exe

Hi,

Can somene tell me where to download this app???
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bluesgeek:
First post of thread.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] saqer:
Hello,

Just wanted to thank the developer for this neat program! I own the ppc 6700 and was wondering since there's already a dedicated button for the start menu is there a way to configure the .ini file to have the left soft button when held down, to switch (alt+tab) in between tasks or a customizable menu. That would be supreme.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lbendlin:
You cannot run files from the storage card in the start menu. The start menu items are called before the storage card wakes up.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hkultraman:
Accoding to the realease history, the latest version should be 0.53 but the attachement shows it is only 0.52.

Where can I find 0.53?

Many thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mattucd:
This question has already been answered in this thread, you should have done a search. 0.53 had a bug and was taken down, so for now (and the forseeable future) you're stuck with 0.52 because the author is lazy and won't update it anymore.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] p50kombi:
Not really nice!!!!

Not really nice to call someone who put time and effort in a freeware app that is used by a large amount of Wizard owners lazy.

I too am hoping for the update that makes my TomTom and D-pad work together, but still, I am really happy that someone was willing to make this app.

Maybe you should watch what your saying about those people who help the rest of us with great apps like these, before they stop developing them for the public.

So, just be patient, maybe the update will come, maybe not...

For now it's still a great app....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cuboosh:
mattucd, some people, have a real life believe it or not. maybe he has something personal going on. this app is fantastic how it is right now. i dont see u releasing anything kthx.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wizzzard:
Show some respect

I think that you are Bang out of order with your statement.

What have you released for the community that is anything like as usefull?

I think you should apologise.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] galinha:
Sorry..how do i smartkey ? Already deleted the files...now gives me a error when i press the power button in my Tytn

cannot execute "smatkey\smartkey.exe

Thnks a Lot

Luis
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kyphur:
Wow, even leeches have opinions!!!

Amazing isn't it. You come here, take and take and take, then complain with insults when someone who actually contributes has a life away from their phone.

I guess MattUcd is just Too Lazy to actually contribute to the community.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] dstrauss:
It's no wonder freeware authors burn out with thankless comments like this. Smartskey is the single most useful utility I have ever owned (going back to Sidekick 1.0 on an old Toshiba two drive monochrome notebook). It made a "useable" smartphone a "good" device - a lot for a simple utility to do on its own.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bt2000:
Just installed this wonderful program. I am going to make a donation to the author now. Being a developer myself, I know fairly well what it takes to create a usable piece of code, and for the author there is nothing more precious than public appreciation! Great job!!!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] galinha:
Ok ...can some one explain for stupid people like me waht this program do..???

Iv instaled and didnt get it...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bittermormon:
It remaps the left softkey so when you hold it down it brings up teh start menu. When you hold the right softkey it does OK/Close. It also allows you to use teh volume toggle as a scroll button (I dont like this so I disabled it) as well as continuously OC your wizard.

I unlocked my phone today which required a ROM downgrade. While reinstalling everythign again, I forgot to install this. Ouch! Amazing how much you miss it when its not there. Thanks for a great app Water.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] blazoner:
And they say Water and electronics don't mix....

Brilliant piece of work!

I got a big kick out of following this thread all the way through from the beginning....

One thing that has been mentioned before, and i don't want to hound you, but it sure would be nice to have an exception list for using the volume slider for default behaviour in apps such as WMP so we can adjust phone volume and program volume seperately.

I know it sounds redundant on the surface, but it gives extra quick action and functionality, especially when connected to an audio out. (ie- BT A2DP Stereo)

...for those who are griping about TomTom, pony-up! Don't make the gentleman choose between paying for it or bootlegging it! If it's really THAT important to you, get together and PayPal him the $$ for a legal version! (Maybe use it as an excuse to upgrade, and pass on your previous copy.... :confused: ) I mean, if it's worth it, it's worth it!

And thanks again, Water, for a phenominal app!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pinhead:
I have moved on from the Wizard but recently figured out that people have been using this program on other devices. I decided to try it on my 6915 and found that it does almost what it is meant to do but for some reason it does a little something extra.

When I click the Right Softkey button it will close Inbox, for example (any program closes the same way) but upon releasing the key with my thumb it then opens whatever is designated by the softkey on the next screen (usually the Today screen) that is shown.

Similarly, with the left softkey button the Start menu will open upon holding the key, but it closes immediately when I release this key.

Is there a way to stop this from happening? This also happened on my Qtek 9100 when I tried Wisbar Advanced Desktop. My current device is an HP iPAQ 6915 though...I haven't tried it yet, but I think it will also work on my Qtek 9000.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] schwieb:
Great program

I love what this does for the phone app on my XV6700. I do have a request or suggestion for the developer. I saw this asked before I think. It would be great for me if the soft key press and hold function could be customized. I already have a windows and ok key, but if I could press and hold this key to launch another shortcut that would be awesome! This would work really well for a screen switch or BT audio switch function. Is that even a possibility for the ini file?

Thanks again for all the hard work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mattucd:
Wow, that was an old, old post. It's been a while since I've been here.

Anyway, to address what I said before, the author of this program is lazy. Yup, everyone here is afraid to say it because he took the time out of his day to write something we all could use, and for free! I appreciate this very much, but there's more than just one side to it.

I feel that after all the promises he has made to update the program, he owes it to the THOUSANDS of people who use it to live up to those promises! But he hasn't, he's just kept telling everyone again and again that he would update it, and that hasn't happened. I can respect him for making this program for no monetary reward, but when he doesn't live up to his word, I lose that respect.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jomvinya:
pieplus disable smatskey

Has anyone use pieplus with this application? Everytime I launch pieplus, smartskey is disabled. I then have to soft reset to reactivate it. I tried searching for similar problem but no luck. Smartskey is a must-have program for one handed usage, but I can't afford to reset my Jamin everytime I want to use it.. I would appreciate your help very much.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] rosie:
Some people have a lifo too, and you should respect that. He will update when and if he will have the time to do so...

As far as I am concerned, I am greatful for what he did so far.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wizzzard:
Thanks for your opinion mattucd, but can I ask where your Freeware contributions are? Or are you too lazy to produce anything? Water has made updates to the program, maybe the rate of development is not to your timescale, but that doesn't give you the right to slag him off. Have you tried PMing Water and offering to take things forwards?

I understand how infuriating it can be when software doesn't do what YOU want it to do, but you have 2 choices put up with it or develop your own software exactly to your specification. When you release your software please be ready for sarcastic comments from ungratefull, impatient, little oinks who always want more.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] FallN:
I can't get the softkeys (hold down to close apps and open Start menu) no matter what I do. I have NOT modified anything in the INI. I just downloaded the Smartskey zip file directly off of the 1st page of this thread, unzipped it, then copied and pasted the exe & INI files to Main Memory. I then tapped on the exe file which installed Smartskey as well as a link to Smartskey in the Startup menu.

The slider is remapped properly but the softkeys don't close or open the Start menu when they are held down.

I'm using an iPaq 6945 with WM5.

Can anyone help me? Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] templar:
I had the same problem... got it working 100% with my wizard, and all I really want is for it work in the phone app. I want the up and down functionality (call history and speed dial) like wm2003. Maybe the developer will resume work on it soon. I'd be glad to paypal some money if that would help.

greg
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
I am back

Hi all,

I am back and updated the program to 0.54. There is not much update, only the bug fix that I have told in 0.53. TomTom problem is still here because I still cannot get the software.

If you have any bug report, suggestion, request. Please:

1. Try the 0.54 version first.

2. Report your request after this message, because the thread is too long....

NOTE: If you got notification error before, please try 0.54, run smartskey.exe several time and then close it. It should remove all unwanted notifcation for smartskey.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] schwieb:
Request

I love your software. My only request is to be able to customize the softkey functions. If I could use the 'press and hold' function to open a program, rather than perform ok or windows key function, that would be awesome. My device already has hardware keys for these functions.

Thanks

Ryan
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pdmath:
I would love for the slider (volume) key on the left side of the phone to be able to be used to scroll up and down in Opera 8.6
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kyphur:
WiseBar Issue

The only problem I've had with SmartSKeys is that when I'm using WiseBar Advanced 2 (latest version) and Wisebar Desktop the button hold is also seen as a short press so for example if I hold to close then it also hits the soft key after the app is closed.