yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] guttrhead:
Just a bump for this. I would really love to be able to use the softkey with fake cursor instead of having to map another button to the windows key too.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] BPM:
hy,

great tool.

is it possible to use the volumekey like this:

tab up/down = move one item up/down

hold up/down = move page up/down?

and is it possible to say the key which normaly strats the commanager that it shoul be the ok button?

so you could scroll eg the phonebook and dial with one hand.

regards

markus
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Syphon Filter:
hi there guys...i came across this applicaiton and have a couple of questions...

In my old Tmobile rom that I had on my Vario/Wizard there was an application that let you map the two softkeys to functions...

Mine were set to

LSK: Call register

RSK: New SMS

It doesnt appear that smartskey offers this functionality...and I no longer have the application as I am using an imate rom. Does anyone have the know how to do this simple thing for me?

TIA Syphon
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bubism:
I suggested something like that a while ago and, without being a nuisance, I'd love to know whether Water did actually think about it... ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] joebongo:
it does yes, how annoying! the user needs to know when a long press is a long press, and you have to judge when enough of a press has been made to qualify as a long press.

i know this is getting a little OT, but aren't softkeys dependant on the app used? i can remap my softkeys through the settings functions to anything I have installed, but i don't know if this can be used to run moody exe's and things :wink:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pzucchel:
HI Water,

just wanted to say THANKS
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bartdesign:
Great software, thanks. This was just what i needed...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jglev:
Do you know if this will work on the Apache (the 6700)? Has anyone tried it?

Thanks,
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
I think no reason why it don't work on apache. and you can test it without harm. The program will not add anything on the phone including registry. Just run it once, if it works, put a shortcut in the startup so that it can run automatically after next reset.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] helpme:
the great key design is one of the main reason that i buy 818pro.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] guttrhead:
This program, the overclocker, and the registry wizard from another forum make the wizard so much more usable. Thanks so much.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
Re: ok/close option

smclose did not work for me paired up with this cool little smartkey application. has anyone else tried to run both and been succesful? if so, in what order did you install the apps and when/how-often did you boot?

BIG HELLO TO WATER!!! thanks for making my cingular wizard almost perfect :D :D :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] VOODOOS!L:
remove messaging/internet + action key bindings

thanks, great app!! make it open source, so some people can learn from it ;)

btw, while playing some games i noticed that pushing the 'messaging' and 'action' (center of d-pad) at the same time launches the 'align screen' applications. This is very anoying while playing some games, is it possible to remove this key binding??

another key-binding i found is pressing the 'internet' and 'action' (center d-pad) buttons at the same time will open the start menu...

CIAO!

VOODOOS!L
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] XDAII:
@ Ipasq

Instead of using smclose, try using vijay's 'VJOkButt' application:-

http://www.vijay555.com/index.php?Releases:VJOkButt

Works perfectly on my Vario :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] TcT:
But you have to bind VJOkButton to another hardware button you can't use it with the right softkey of this app.

Btw great App from water but a little configuration possibilties (even if it's just with registry keys) would be great.

The one option I would find extremly usefull would be having Close instead of minimize.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] vijay555:
Why do you have to bind VJOkButt to a hardware key?

It's designed to be standalone, to launch from a shortcut or hardware key in the normal way.

The problem may be that VJOkButt grabs the current foreground window - which may be this app, not the visible app. VJOkButt contains special cases for xbar, smallmenu and Wisbar. I'm happy to build in more. Water, are you using a Window?

V
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iamhives:
Fantastic

A minor thing. Any chnace of disabling the button hold feature on the 'portrait soft buttons' when in landscape mode- when in landscape with the keyboard open the keyboard start and OK buttons are available as well as the lanscape soft buttons sothe portrait ones aren't required. Not a big deal.

This makes my Cingular 8125 usable !!! Patent the concept so Msft can't use it!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bluesgeek:
Issues on my xv6700 running Pocket Informant:

* The right softkey tap and hold used to minimize opens PI upon release (does not happen when using the native contacts PIM)

* In notes using right softkey tap and hold to minimize a note opens the menu upon release

In both of these cases the release of the hold seems to trigger another tap.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
I don't have PI installed, but tested notes, and no problem you mentioned... everything works properly.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bluesgeek:
Perhaps this is of use, it only happens with the right soft key on my hardware keyboard (landscape), not on the right soft key on the faceplate.

Thanks for the app.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
New version 0.2

Hi all,

Just released a new version 0.2, can set some options, and can close windows instead of hide, also support a exception list that hide mostly used apps.

If found any bugs, please let me know.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Robster:
Where is the new version please?

Cheers.

Robin
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
in first post.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] TcT:
Great new version, nice additions, works very well.

Thanks for this nice little app that makes using the HTC Wizard so much easier.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] ikkoku:
I'm having the same problem as some of you here.

I have an MDA vario with QTEK 2.17 Rom.

all the new keys work as planned except for the DPAD. no matter how I change the settings on the ini, it doesn't work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Tezcatlipoca:
Installed this a couple of days ago.

Great program, water :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] dannby0i16:
this seems like a great tool, but one question. is it possble to map other programs to those buttons? from what i've been reading, it looks like smartkeys only lets u map those buttons to specific programs only.

what i wanted from this application, or if you guys can tell me if it is possible, to map the keys having one for 'device lock' and one for 'settings'

if that is not possible, is there a way to expand the list of available mappable programs and functions so i can include those two "device lock & settings" at least to the avaible hardkeys?

by the way i have a cingular 8125
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pelicantacos:
Remapping Buttons

Water, thanks for such a great utility--it works really well!

I was wondering if it is possible to remap the hold function on the Comm Manager, Button 5? I'm having some screwy problems where my 8125 thinks the Comm Manager button is acting like it is being pressed down every time (and all the time) it is on. I've done a hard reset and rom update and still it thinks it's being pressed.

Any ideas? Thanks for your help.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] andykha:
Thanks a lot.

Good work. Directly for my MIO A700
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] crankerchick:
dpad up/down in poutlook

water,

i too can confirm that Smartskey alters the use of the dpad up/down in poutlouk on Apache (vzw). With smartskey running, up down steps 1 by one through my appts in agenda view and pages up/down in time in day view. With smartskey running, dpad up/down moves to the next/previous day, just like left right (undesired). I didnt test to see what would happen in week/month/year view, although I suspect the same.

This is a handy program. Nice and small, unobtrusive, and I dont mind using the .ini for customization. in fact, i prefer this over having a bulkier app that has a gui for editting settings, and likewise edits the reg. I would consider the calendar thing a bug, although I don't know if such behavior exists on the wizard, and i know that is the platform you are writing for. If at all possible, my only request is to investigate and hopefully fix this in a future release.

thanks for taking the time with this awesome app. I will be dropping you a paypal momentarily. Will try to send some postcards as well.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] crankerchick:
RE: other suggestions

I forgot to pass on a thought for an addition that would hopefully not add to much to the footprint. This suggestion was offered over in the pdaphonehome forum:

1. More PHONE based options for DPAD use in phone screen, such as option to set mute, toggle speakerphone, toggle handsfree, etc. As was mentioned, some devices already have a contacts softkey, so having a few more options to set for DPAD would give those folks an alternative to choosing contacts again (or nothing, as I do).

while i like this suggestion, i would not like to see this or any other change that would significantly affect the footprint of the prog. It is very functional just the way it is!

PS: what is the "Spy" that is being spoke of to identify processes to add to the exceptions list? I tried holding the action button and topping the area of the screen to the right of the start menu, but nothing happens. I'd like to add some programs to the list but I don't know how to identify them. Can I look at the name as it appears in the Settings->Memory-> Running programs list?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iamhives:
I run Goodlink email on my 8125 along with Smartkey which is invaluable. On turning on my phone Goodlink displays any reminders/calendar events that are outstanding. In this case it appears that Smartkey does not function - in fact the softkeys don't seem to function at all. So I end up with the Goodlink reminder in the borrom of my screen but no wa to dismiss it sinece the soft keys don't work. Not sure if Goodlink sents these reminders before Smartkey gets to load or what.

Anyone else running Goodlink getting this problem.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] matheprat:
Does anyone else find the overclocking feature unreliable? I've set it in the .ini file, and it works when the device is first turned on. But most of the time it resets back to 180 after the device goes to sleep. I know Smartskey is reading the ini file, as I have other stuff in there which is always done as i have set it.

Any ideas?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] itesla:
Is there a way to make the volume keys act as up/down instead of pageup/pagedown?

Is there a way to make the com-mgr/button 5 act as select/enter?

These two would make the vol and btn5 work as a thumb navigator.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jose_v:
I feel like this might have already been answered, (actually, I'm sure) but I just don't have the time to sift through all the pages.

Simple questions, though.

1) Is there anyway to delete the app after installation?

2) Will the slider always function as the pgup/down
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Daddy_Spank:
1. read the PDF file that comes with it.

2. the slider will work as normal volume button as long as there is no program running that requires pageup/down functionality.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] baf4sc:
Need Help

I know this has been talked about, but I am having a ton of trouble with it. I loaded the program and it seemed fine. However everytime I turned the phone off and back on, it would prompt an error message.

I found the fix for this on the forum and remuoved it from the start up folder. Having done that and seemingly deleting the file from my 8125, evertime I take the phone out of stand by it says:

Cannot excecute "\Program Files\smartskey.exe"

Please help me get rid of this. I have not idea what to do at this point.

Thank you in advance for any help.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] biolover:
Help for an occasional unknown problem

SmartSKey is really a wonderful program. However, I don't if the problem I meet is a bug of SmartSKey 0.52. Sometimes (only after just waking up) I use the left soft key to open Start, then use DPOD to highlight some item, and then press the center button of the DPOD, the phone panel will be start and dialing of last call will automatically began. As I installed many other programs in the T-Mobile MDA, such as phonealarm, vBar, etc., I cannot confirm which program cause such problem. Because SmartSKey can change the function of keys, it is highly suspicious.

Here is the list of my startup folder.

BkpMgrDeleter.exe

CapNotify.lnk

CheckAutoRun.lnk

Chronos.lnk

filedigchg.lnk

HandyMenu.lnk

Init_Tray.lnk

MobileAnimationTim...

LockAppp.lnk

PHMTrayLaunch.lnk

poutlook.lnk

sddaemon.lnk

smartskey.lnk

vBar.lnk

vCardrs.lnk

Here is the list of procedures.

filesys.exe

gwes.exe

device.exe

cprog.exe

shell32.exe

tmail.exe

repllog.exe

services.exe

rapiclnt

connmgr.exe

MemMaid.exe

sddaemon.exe

smartskey.exe

srvtrust.exe

vBar.exe

HandyMenu.exe

poutlook.exe

MobileAnimationTimer.exe

vcardrs.exe

CapNotify.exe

TrayLnch.exe

NK.exe
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pjam:
I have just installed this app but have found that no matter what I do I cannot get the press and hold functions of the softkeys to work. I have tried using without the ini file in the smartskey folder. I am not running from the storage card.

Any ideas?

I'm using a t-mobile mda compact II.

Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] VOODOOS!L:
nice application, but support for the other hardware keys would make it much better

what I miss is the support for a long press on internet, messaging and camera buttons, and the possibility to link the long key press to a comand line, to launch any chosen application (defined in the ini file)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tonut:
I am sure this has already been brought up by others, but is there any way to change the function of the comm button? With the volume slider working as a scroll wheel, I think it would make it insanely easy for one handed operation if the comm button would click on icons just like the center button on the 5-way d-pad. Also, though, if the comm button would still take you to the comm menu when held for say 3 seconds or something like that, that would be amazing. The comm button comes in handy, but only on occasion whereas the okay/click button would be used all the time. Also, is there any way to make the volume slider still control the volume when on a call but scroll at all other times?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wgary:
Note to everyone hungry for more and more:

1. Are you using DoubleLauncher -- http://www.orthancsoftware.com/DLauncher.htm -- to maximize the buttons you already have? This allows up to four assignments per button. (Comm button only has 3, and the VoiceDial button has other issues.)

2. Using a program like SmallMenuPlus -- http://tillanosoft.com/ce/smenu.html -- let's you assign a pop-up to one of the button states. Then you can a bunch of stuff just two presses away.

3. In fact, using setting Smartskey's STARTMENUMETHOD option to 1 allows press/hold of the left soft key to invoke SmallMenuPlus, actually saving an assignment.

I know other people have other alternatives, but between these options and the other capabilities of Smartskey, I'm in one-handed heaven. Between triple-clicking buttons and using the D-Pad, I almost never even touch my stylus. Hopefully more and more app's will become D-Pad and soft button friendly.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] J-Mac:
Hi water.

smartskey on my Cingular 8125 for a few months now, running excellently.

Recently, however, it doesn't load at startup after a soft reset. I have to open the File Explorer and double-tap the .exe file to get it going after every soft reset.

All this time it has been working fine at startup. I placed a shortcut in my Startup folder to try to help it a bit, but that hasn't helped - I still have to manually start it now after every soft reset.

I checked to make sure that STARTONREBOOT-1 in the .ini file, and that is set correctly.

Any thoughts? I'm running .52.

Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] J-Mac:
Hey wgary - I have Double Launcher, but I didn't think it was compatible with WM5; I used it on a WM2003SE Axim X50v.

It works fine on WM5?

If so, that's great!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] AlexDem:
Ok/close problem

Hi

Thanks for great hack, but i have some problem with my JAMin (prophet).

Smartkeys hide programs instead closing. OKKEY=1 doesn't work. Any ideas? :) Thanks for any advices.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] leon81:
Same thing to me...

doesn't close, but minimize

and don't auto start up after soft reset.

1 month ago was working perfectly, now it doesn't!

My ini file should be ok.

BTW....GREAT PROGRAM!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] J-Mac:
Re: where is the file

Have you registered? It is required to download.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: Ok/close problem

Make sure that the ini file is in unicode. I will make a better ini reader in next version.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] AlexDem:
Re: Ok/close problem

Yes, it works! I need RTFM. :) Great thanks!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] theleland:
Sorry if this has been discussed already - I've been all through the FTP but I can't find this application. Can someone please clue me in as to where exactly I find the download? Thanks!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] AlexDem:
At first message of this topic! :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] theleland:
Oh. You have to be logged in in order to see the attachments. Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] pjam:
any ideas on the press and hold not working? Other than that, this is great.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] danum:
Any chance you could fix the Dpad issue in Tomtom Navigator in the next release? Not a biggie as the advantages of smartskey far outweigh this issue. Great work Water!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] wwwouter:
GREAT WORK DUDE !!!

Thanks a lot, this is what I needed!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Poke_N_PDA:
Suggestion for the program

Couple of things here. First off, this program is excelent and I'd like to congragulate the maker for a job well done. Second, I'd like to know more about how you did this. I'm learning about WM programing right now, but I'm not quite sure how to make functionality mods like this. Maybe someone can PM me with good sources or suggestions.

Finally, I have a suggestion for the program. I have always hated how the keypad is lined up at the top of the querty. It would be great if you could make it so that while the unit was in the phone app, some of the key were made to be a numeric pad. Here is my example.

Y 1 2 3 P

H 4 5 6 Backspace

B 7 8 9 Return

S * 0 # Down

I couldn't get larger spaces to display. I'm not quite sure how to do that. Anyway, the 'S' stands for the space bar.

You can compare it to your wizard keypads to see what would change. Maybe you could also make it part of the .ini file to be able to change the placement of this pad. Anyway, this would make dialing numbers and finding contacts (from within the phone app) very much easier. With one hand I could open and dial. Let me know what you think.

Zach
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Poke_N_PDA:
Suggestion for the program

double post
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] CraigP17:
ok, i had smartskey on my Cingular 8125 before, and it worked great closed apps instead of hiding. i never edited any unicode or anything, i dont even know what that is. both soft keys functions worked great. well i updated ROM and out smartskey back on and it only hides apps and doesnt automatically start when device is reset.

where should i put smartskey on the device (what folder)?

and what do i need to do to it so it closes apps and auto starts after a reset.

also do i just put the.cab or all th stuff in the zip on my device?

any help is appreciated, i love this program i just need to back how i had it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Tezcatlipoca:
Open the smartskey.ini file in Notepad on your PC. Adjust settings to your liking, according to the manual. Save the file, & be sure to select "Unicode" from the "Encoding" drop-down menu. (file > save as > file name "smartskey.ini", save as type "all files", encoding "Unicode").

Easiest thing is to just make a folder called "smartskey" within "Program Files".

The manual explains how to edit the ini file so OK/close closes & so smartskey runs after a reset.

The zip contains 3 files: smartskey.exe, smartskey.ini, & the smartskey pdf manual. You need to copy over the exe & the ini.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] CraigP17:
i dont want any programs to hide, so do i delete the whole exceptionslist part?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] JwY:
just clear it so under exceptions you see nothing
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] biolover:
I test it already. It works great on T-mobile MDA (WM5). But it's not free like SmartSKey.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] cuboosh:
how exactly do i install this? i put the .exe file and the .ini file in my startup folder and i get a error about the ini file is not assiocated or some crap can neone help?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Tezcatlipoca:
The manual, included in the zip file download, explains how to install.

The ini file is not meant to be in startup, nor the exe file.

Customise the ini to your liking, & save in unicode.

Make a folder for smartskey - e.g. make a folder called "smartskey" within "Program Files" on the device.

Copy smartskey.exe & smartskey.ini to the folder you have created (not to "startup").

Run smartskey.exe. A shortcut to smartskey.exe will automatically be created within the "startup" folder.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] crubbish:
Has anybody got the program working on Atom?

I have tried all sorts of settings but nothing apart from volume button is getting re-mapped..
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] J-Mac:
Not sure - What's an Atom? An HTC device?

Who makes it, model number, etc.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] crubbish:
O2 XDA Atom. Not an HTC.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bill_viper:
O2 Xda Atom, made by Quanta.

There is and a forum section here at xda-devs. Take a look. ;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] J-Mac:
OK.

Sorry, but I don't know much about that device.

Do you have both the .exe and .ini files in a folder you created named, "Smartskey"?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] crubbish:
Yes, J-Mac. Everything is along the recipe.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] J-Mac:
Well, sounds like you know what you are doing...

You did double-tap, or "Open", the .exe file, right?

Check in the \\Windows\Startup folder and make sure that a link was created there. It would be smartskey.lnk

BTW, did you move the folder after installing it?

Also, try opening the smartskey.ini file in Notepad on your desktop PC and check to see if the settings in there match what the Manual syas.

Worth a look, anyway!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Mike o:
good idea
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Vic Odin:
Need addition

When incomming or outgouing call, need lock touchscreen, but dont hard buttons (screen dont offf too). Center joybutton may unlock/lock touchscreen. After call, touchscreen was always unlock. Realy doing this or not?

PS: Sorry for my bad english...