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[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] hideg:
I am really sorry to hear that, bro. I play MP3 on SD card, use navigation program on SD card, but the problem did not catch my attention, yet.

I'll assume those hard-reset 818pro would suffer the same syndrome, maybe those users will join you in the discussion soon.

Have you try another SD card? Mine is 1G SanDisk mini SD with adapter.

Good Luck!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] sas90850:
After 18 days used, I don't have any auto soft reset problem (or other problems) at all. :P I believe this solulation is worked. :wink:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] farbird:
which solution?

bypassing ext rom completely or deletion/moving of the 2 files mentioned 3-4 posts prior?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] lucifera:
hmm, after 4 days of stable operation, I don't have any auto-reset and SD card disappear problem too. However, the SD card I/O slow issue is sill here...

But I can quite sure that the auto-reset problem and SD card disappear problem is cause of conflict of those .DLL files. But sees those files are used to increase MY SD I/O speed... lol

Waiting for a new ROM update..

:?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] lucifera:
I am using 1G SanDisk SD (Normal) card, and don't have any other SD.

:cry:

Anyway, your solution does solved my auto-reset and SD disappearing problem! Thanks dude.

I am waiting for new ROM update, or maybe a hard-reset later (I have no time to reinstall my software currently) :P
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Kai920:
Thanks for your original solution... it has indeed worked. Don't miss the voice commander and smart dialer at all! And of course it's great that it finally saves all my photos to the SD card without tinkering :P

But we do need a ROM update as lucifera says...
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] anox:
Hi Lucifera,

By trial & error, it seems to me that the DLL causing the problem is only

omap850_sdhc.dll from the Ext Rom.

While waiting for a new ROM update, you may try using the below combination:

omap850_sdhc.dll from the OS ROM

sdbus.dll from the Ext ROM.

I have no idea if this would solve your SD card I/O speed issue,

but there will be months away until a new ROM update (I read it somewhere) :D

Anox.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] oainot:
Recognize the storage card problem

Thanks guys for explaining the prophet problem with SD card.

Now we can avoid prophet to auto reset and SD card disappearing by using the windows original files (OMAP850_SDHC.dll and sdbus.dll). But another problem has raised. Accessing to SD card takes very long time. Why this is possible:

+ SD card is not good (low-end) ?

+ SD card is formated not correctly (FAT 16, FAT 32, cluster size...) ?

+ Prophet ROM bug ?

+ WM5 bug ?

I really don't know the answer. Actually, after a period of time, your file explorer still report the SD card present, even if you had removed SD card from the device. So, I think this may be problem with "refreshing" SD card after power-on. May be, Dopod has fixed this error by their files (OMAP850_SDHC.dll and sdbus.dll) in extended ROM. But again, these Dopod files cause the device to loss SD card or auto resetting.

I don't know. When new ROM update will be availaible ?

Give me your opinions.

Thanks.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] oainot:
By removing and re-insertting the SD card again few times, we can force the device to recognize the SD card exactly. After that, the SD card speed is very fast. So we have to determine which file is involved to recognizing SD card while inserted, "omap850_sdhc.dll" or "sdbus.dll".

We also have to consider the SD card FAT table (card directory) caching mechanism.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] oainot:
This may help

This may help:

+ Using Total Commander to access the Extended ROM, then install \\Extended_ROM\Signed_SD_Driver.sa.CAB

+ Using Resco File Explorer v.5.35 (this version is compatible with WM5) to move the file "omap850_sdhc.dll" (only one file, we will continue using the file "sdbus.dll" from Extended ROM) to the other place.

This solution is working now for me. I will continue follow up.

Who have fixed by this way, please confirm the result.

Thanks guys, you are great.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] mikewchandler:
I continue to not have any issues by simply not installing the ext rom. I also made sure and ran the "autosyncschedule.cpf" that fixes the autosync wm5 bug. If you need it, it's on eten-users.com or I can email it to you....just pm me if you can't get it off eten-users.com.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] hope4jsl:
I have been following this thread for awhile now and I went ahead and hard reset my device and did not let the extended rom install.......

Now I also have the super slow sd card....I'm not sure which one is worse?

:?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Matterhorn:
I was running my Jamin without extended ROM relatively trouble free. I had experienced an SD card slow down a few times so I installed the SD card cab (above). I then deleted the omap850 file so that the Jamin would restore the original file. After 1 hour, it did a soft reset right in front of me :evil:

So I deleded the other SD card file quoted above, the Jamin restored that file. Now I just hope that the reset problem goes away again...I really don't like spontanious soft resets :(

If the slow SD card thing pops up from time to time, I can live with that. I'm anxiously awaiting the new ROM upgrande which if history repeats itself should solve all these problems.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] oainot:
You can see what I posted:

That minds you have to install "\\Extended_ROM\Signed_SD_Driver.sa.CAB" to use "omap850_sdhc.dll" and "sdbus.dll". Only "omap850_sdhc.dll" is bad. So you will keep the new "sdbus.dll" and delete the new "omap850_sdhc.dll" by using Resco Explorer version 5.35.

I fixed this yesterday. All the day of yestoday my device worked well. But this morning, after charging last night, my SD again slowed. After a soft reset, everthing became O.K.

Atleast, one time soft reset per day can be accepted. I will look after the device tomorow morning.

By the way, thanks mikewchandler. I have removed autosync by making a fake server and manual schedule.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] oainot:
Dear Matterhorn,

Please note that, Dopod 818 Pro and I-Mate Jamin hardwares are the same, but Dopod Extended Rom Files may be diffirent from Jamin Extended Rom Files.

So, you can try this: Install Signed_SD_Driver.sa.CAB from Dopod, that I attached here. Then remove only one file, OMAP...dll file.

I don't know about Jamin but hope this may help.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] hope4jsl:
Ok. I tried a 2GB high speed 130X SD card I had been using in my Canon camera. It still slowed way down to the point of being unusable.

I did not charge or sync the device in any way during this time. It still did it.

So to me it just as bad without the ext rom installed, because now I have another SD card problem that happens more frequently.

To recap, here is what I do know.

•	When I had the Ext Rom installed, my SD card would disappear about 2 to 3 times in 24 hours. I would have to soft reset to correct this problem

•	I then did a hard reset and did not let the extended rom install. That problem is now solved. I now have a new problem where my sd card speed slows down every few hours to the point I can’t use it. Sometime just ejecting the card and reinserting it will fix this. Sometimes I have to do a soft reset.

•	Neither problem seems to be related to regular or high

speed sd cards (I have tried both)

•	Neither problem seems to be related to charging or syncing

(it seems to do it at random)

I guess my only course of action now is to reinstall the SD_patch.cab and try deleting one or the other files as mentioned earlier in this thread, and see if I get any results.

This is a shame. I really did like this phone. :( :(
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] hope4jsl:
Here is a conversation I had earier with someone form imate's website....

jlynchtx> My SD storage card keeps disapearing and I have to do a soft reset 3 or 4 times a day to get it back.

jlynchtx> Other than that everything works great. I was wondering if there was any thing that can be done about that.

Jolane> have you tried any other SD cards on it !

jlynchtx> yes. I have tried 3 total.

Jolane> and the same issue!!

Jolane> ?

jlynchtx> regular sandisk and then a couple high speed sd cards

Jolane> you are located in the US

Jolane> ?

jlynchtx> There are a ton of other JAMin users with the same problem, and I want to make sure that ya'll are aware of it.

jlynchtx> yes.

jlynchtx> I can point you to several threads on difefrent forums where people are talking about this problem, but i don't know if they have been able to get ahold of support at imate about it.

Jolane> would you try to hard reset the device anf then if you still have the same issue send me an email to support@imate.com with your IMEI number and full mailling address!

jlynchtx> I have already hard reset also

jlynchtx> no luck

Jolane> so ill report this issue to the right people and check any updates for this !!

jlynchtx> the people in the forums think it has to with a file on the extended rom....

sd patch.cab

jlynchtx> I want to make sure the fix for this gets put into the new rom update

Jolane> ill make sure too !!

jlynchtx> By the way, any word on when the new rom update will be?

Jolane> i would like to escalate this issue and any other issues might be in the place!!

jlynchtx> are they about to release it?

Jolane> not yet we are cllecting any issue comming in and then..

jlynchtx> ok well this is a major one.....

jlynchtx> do you want me to send you the links to the forums?

Jolane> would you feel free to send us an email any time you hear about any issue in the device to support@imate.com and we will make sure to rase this issue...

Jolane> sure!!

jlynchtx> ok great

jlynchtx> thank you jolane
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] mikewchandler:
Hmmm....there must be some incompatability with certain cards? Sorry that you hard reset and still have problems. :cry:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] abazli:
screen alignment problem

hi all i did wat KTA said.. i hard reset, and soft reset and only installed some cab files.. no more problems with sd missing or soft resets and i havent noticed any slow reading from sd.. but i have had to align my screen 2-3 times a day... is there another cab file i need to install for this?

thanks in advance! this is a great forum btw!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] ganglion5:
That's strange, abazli. I have that same problem with the alignment. I also did a hard reset without the ext rom. I think this is the first time I heard anyone mentioning this problem other than what I noticed.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] oainot:
Let's find the reason.

How did you bypass ext rom installation. Do a soft reset after hard reset, right ? After a hard reset, you will be ask to align the screen, then cut, paste something related with a dental doctor, right ? If you do a soft reset before this process finished, I might loss your alignment settings.

The second point to pay your attention is that, after fixing anything you want, you would like to soft reset the device. Do it by this way, press and hold on the power button till a message bos appear asking your confirm. Press "yes", the changes will be written permanantly to the device and the device will be completly off. You will lose nothing. Turn it on.

Good luck.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] abazli:
ok thanks i just tried the reset thing now.. i'll let u guys know if there are any changes
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] tumtham:
Cannot work for me ....Why ?

Had try hard-reset, then soft reset after pasword setup screen. But my MMC remains undetected.

Please help :(
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] mikewchandler:
Re: Cannot work for me ....Why ?

3 questions:

1. Did you remove your card during the hard reset? Sometimes that helps.

2. Does your card work ok in other ppc's or a card reader?

3. What size/kind of card is it?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Matterhorn:
Re: Cannot work for me ....Why ?

You might try emptying your SD to your PC, formatting it then copying all your files back. I also have done the hack where the omap850 file is deleted from the Windows directory, which is then restored my WM5 to another version of the file. Now I have a very solid Jamin device :lol:
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] tumtham:
Re: Cannot work for me ....Why ?

1. Yes

2. Yes

3. Silicon Power 512mb MMC

Any others ways ?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] mikewchandler:
Hmmmm...I have no other ideas?? Matterhorn's idea sounds good, though. I'd try that next, I guess.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] hope4jsl:
Well I would like to report that my JAMin is running perfect now! For me the SD card slow down and or disapear fix was this......

I did a hard reset and did not install the ext rom. I also did not install a couple third part apps. (which I think is the real problem)

The third party apps I did not install are PocketZenPhone, PhoneAlarm by Pocket Max, and MS voice command.

I'm 99% sure that PhoneAlarm was the problem. A couple of other people over at HowardForums also say it PhoneAlarm on theirs as well.

My guess is any Today screen plugin that has a tendency to have memory leaks could be causing this SD slow down and or disapear problem.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] vsc:
From reading there might a few more programs that cause the same result, but as discussed PhoneAlarm was causing the problem for me.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] sas90850:
I also installed PhoneAlarm Version 1.30.03 and don't have problem. What problem you encounter?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] vsc:
Basically to recreate the problem setup a switch from the night profile (radio off) to say home at a point in the future that is perhaps an hour later. Then put the unit in standby. When the unit wakes up and switches away from the night profile, the SD card is gone.

Notable is that if the profile switch is scheduled for only a few mins into the future the SD card problem doesn't occur. This fact is why I initially thought the program was working properly.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] techspy:
I was having reboots all the time. I saw it reboot twice within 30 min. I did the omap850 delete yesterday and haven't had a single one since. I currently have a 1 gig SD (mini with adapter from my KJam), overclocked to 224, custom dialpad skin and it is running great. I went ahead and did a backup now that it is stable. Now I am just waiting for the A2DP update.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] ualvoyager:
Here's a thought....

First, thanks everyone for the insights however I am still having both the SD Card being lost and the Random Soft Reset issues. I have a Dopod 818Pro (WWE) and since day one I have not installed Ext ROM.

I tried the fixes mentioned on this thread (except loading some additional files from Ext ROM other than the SD card one). But I'm still getting the issues.

Here's my thought.....If someone here is gifted enough to come up with a small program to install on the device that would send a pulse or something to the SD Card say every 20 minutes or so to force the SD Card to keep in touch with the device, could this work?

My thinking is that somehow the device is losing the connection to the SD card if I do not turn it on at least once every 1/2 hour or so. I especially notice the Soft Reset issue at night when the device is next to my bed charging on the night stand. During the day it loses the SD Card if I haven't turned it on in about a half an hour or so.

Any thoughts?????

voyager
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] kta:
The thread seems to have diverted a bit from the original implications that the SA_Signed_SD_Driver.cab was the cab file to blame for the "Missing SD Card" problem.

All I did to my Dopod 818 Pro is bypass the Extended ROM installation after a hard reset and manually install the cab files I mentioned in page 1 post, OBVIOUSLY NOT INSTALLING SA_Signed_SD_Driver.cab!

However, one must realise that ROM versions vary a little. Imate and Dopod, for example, are running on different ROM versions. My version is 1.0.13.21. This method, therefore, is only guaranteed to work on this ROM version and any other versions that others may claim they have it working on.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] ualvoyager:
Ok folks....I hard reset my Dopod 818Pro last night. I bypassed the Ext ROM however I only loaded the following cab's from the Ext ROM:

Connection Speed Max, WAP Push SMS, Signed DisconnectButton, Signed Icon DLL, Signed Prophet DopodAsia, Signed Version SA. All of which were recommended by kta here on the forum.

I did NOT install anything else from the Ext ROM. I wiped my 2GB SanDisk Ultra II card clean and reformatted it. I then meticulously loaded the following Programs into the DEVICE ROM:

SBSH PocketBreeze 5.12 (Previously resided on the SD Card)

SBSH PocketWeather 1.3.1 (Previously resided on the SD Card)

SBSH ContactBreeze 1.2 (Previously resided on the SD Card)

SBSH i-Launcher 2.3.0.1 (Previously resided on the SD Card)

ScaryBear Notification

ScaryBear Clear Notify

DinarSoft MemMaid (v1.5)

SPB Backup (v1.1)

AvantGo (Latest version)

Lakeridge WisBar Lite

Adrian HTTPMail

On the 2GB SD card I have loaded:

Resco File Explorer/Registry Editor (v5.35)

Resco PhotoViewer (v5.32)

Resco Sudoku

MX Converter

SPB Finance

Time Calculator

All music and video files for WMedia10 (about 530MB worth)

Well folks, all was going well today (the device did not auto reset itself in the night on the charger on my bed stand, yeah!!) until about 5 hours into my work day, it happened. SD Card went missing in action. I had to perform a soft reset. I noticed that the device had already done a soft reset on its own while on my charger in the car (I have three of the programs on the SD Card listed in the "Start Menu" and the icons had gone blank, fyi that what I like about those icons disappearing is that I get a visual that the device did soft reset!) Anyhoo...the device has now lost my SD Card 3 times today total....AAAAARRRRGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!!!!

On the last occurance I noticed something....When I clicked a program in my start menu that resides on my SD Card the little window went on its endless chasing itself in a circle I got so frustrated that instead of doing a soft reset, I simply pulled the SD Card out and stuck it in again immediately. Well, it started working again. However I lost my "ratings" in the music files (oh well). Is this safe, pulling the SD Card out with the device on?

Any ideas or suggestions would be great!! I'm glad others here are experienceing no more problems but I wish I was one of those people.

HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks all for letting me VENT......

voyager
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] sas90850:
Dear all 818pro/Pophet User:

Don't install any ext Rom programs except smart dailer and disconnection button. I already done a lot of experiement before write this forum.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Lucas0511:
@hideg & @anox

Thank you guys, replacing sdbus.dll & omap850_sdhc.dll from \windows solved the auto reset/memory card disappearing problem for me - running w/o problems for days now. Enjoy your Dopod.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] anox:
Hi Lucas0511,

Great to hear that :)

But this is just an unofficial temporary workaround we can try before we get a patch from the vendor.

This might not fix everything or anything at all for someone.

I have just seen a new SD card driver patch from some Dopod guy.

Looks like they are working on it to officially issue the patch or new ROM update.

Cheers,

Anox.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] keeekeee:
i tried on my dopod 900. i only able to see the extended rom after created from the GSFinder. but i cannot copy the extended rom to my SD card. Why??? it does not work on dopod 900?? only work on 818 pro?? is it?
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Dieselman:
Removing Ext ROM SD dll WORKS! on imate JAMin

Thank you kta, anox, hideg and All,

I moved the 2 files under \Windows omap850_sdhc.dll and sdbus.dll (29/11/2005) out to a different folder and did a soft reset. The SD disappearance problem has gone for a whole day so far. I used to notice the SanDisk 2GB SD disappearance avery hour as I have all my programs and data installed in it including today screen programs like RSS news reader and others.

One thing I've noticed that I can't see any files with the same filenames as the above. Are they hidden being ROM or WM5 system files? I'm using the generic File Explorer.
[WebOS Software and Hacking General] Razor512:
With things getting progressively worst for webOS, I was wondering if there is a relatively simple way to export my installed applications to ipk for backup reasons?

I am thinking about erasing everything and starting fresh, but this will cause me to lose the installed applications.
[WebOS Software and Hacking General] RumoredNow:
You can't revert an app to an ipk... But you can retain an ipk during install for archiving.

http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-tips-info-resources/322549-how-retain-app-ipks-app-catalog.html
[WebOS Software and Hacking General] Razor512:
The issue I am having is that it refuses to connect to the app catalog. I am not sure if it is still running or if the certificate was never downloaded before the old one expired, but if I were to reset everything, I would not be able to re download the applications. (cant find any way to fix the certificate issue as I missed the update)
[WebOS Software and Hacking General] RumoredNow:
The App Cat is still running...

Have you tried the official fix? https://developer.palm.com/support/applicationupdate

Installing the Updates after July 23rd

For users of ALL webOS devices:

Open the “Date & Time” app on your device.

Set “Network Time” to Off.

Set the date to July 1, 2013.

Open the App Catalog

Type “App Catalog Update” in the search filed, and select “Enter” on the keyboard.

Tap the “App Catalog Update” app to display the details page.

Tap “Download for Free” to download and install the app.

Return to the “Date & Time” app.

Set the date back to the current date.

Set “Network Time” to On.

Before doing this open Software Manager and clear out any pending updates, reboot system.

Afterwards, try a reboot.

Got Internalz Pro?

You can inspect your certificate by navigating to and opening: /etc/ssl/certs/trustedcerts/PalmWebOS.pem

Or use WOSQI to pull a copy from that location to your computer for examination.
[WebOS Software and Hacking General] Razor512:
I tried following the instructions, and it still gets the error "The action could not be completed. Try again later."

screenshot: http://i.imgur.com/ZEzeH5P.png
[WebOS Software and Hacking General] RumoredNow:
Many have gotten a "False Negative" when updating... Did you manually verify the cert? Check your App Cat version as an alternative: it should have moved from 5.0.3400 to 5.0.3500 after the update.

MikeN68 has supplied this ipk: https://www.dropbox.com/s/pia7xi5wbddwytt/com.palm.app.appcatalogupdate_3.0.0.ipk

I can't find verification that it works, but you could try installing it on your TP with WOSQI or Internalz Pro.

Garfonso recommends this:

Again, I don't have confirmation from another source of it working...

Of the two, I'd try the ipk first. It's just easier and more straight forward.