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[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
OK guys come on give better answers then "you dont need one"

we are not all mind readers, :cry:

:?:

breakit down, whywe dont need one?

how safe is your data when its sent from your device?

try to read my intial thread and reply to the points in there,

I am sure that you are not naive to think we dont need one because our networks tell its its safe or because microsoft does,

How many times has microsoft security been compermised?

Networks- remmber t-mobile? when there servers where being hacked (one good thing that came out of that was pairs hiltons EMAILS! along with the secrect service but with parisss its was more of like many online service providers, T-Mobile.com requires users to answer a "secret question" if they forget their passwords. For Hilton's account, the secret question was "What is your favorite pet's name?" By correctly providing the answer, any internet user could change Hilton's password and freely access her account. and her pet dog name is!!! Chihuahua

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2005/01/12/hacker_penetrates_t-mobile/ )
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
@ snorbaard

thanks dude
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
zeboxxxxxxxxxxxxxx lol

thatsmade me laugh :lol:

thanks mate ;)

FROM ZEBOX (sorryabout the caps hope i dont hurt anyones feeling)

Now then.. as to why you're being rude...

First.. your post - what's with the bold blue text? Do you think it would get people's attention easier? Just makes it more difficult to read.

dude I LIKE USING COLOURS lol

Second... you address a specific person, vijay555 - who is a very busy person. But even if he wasn't, it's a bit presumptious of you that 1. he

would be reading this, 2. he would be interested in replying at all.

tust me he gets around!

Third... you presume that people would go off-topic, in your original post (in large red type, at that). Why not have a bit more faith in fellow man and see what replies roll in, first? Then if people go off-topic, point it out and ask that they try and address the issue you raised in your post.

Fourth... when somebody does answer your post, even if it is a rather short reply, you tell them to either post a better reply, or not reply at all. Don't be surprised if many people will interpret this in a way that will make them not want to reply to any of your posts at all.

all in one, the amount of threads iv read where the converstion has gone off topic----------- so had to make that clear,

andbeing honest Im having a lugh so i dont want anyone to take it personaly if Imake a checky comment,

and zeboxx this ones just for you ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Ward:
You still don't need a firewall for your Pocket PC. :P

A firewall in the sense I understand it is a filtering application which brackets network access: rejecting unsolicited packet, applying appication based rules and optionally, performing some filtering on incoming content.

You don't need one, because: there is very little need to restrict application access to the network - malicious apps exist, but its so difficult for them to gain a foothold on your PPC without you knowing about it. So on a clean PPC, a firewall does nothing useful. Dropping unsolitcited packets is nice, but your PPC is mobile - not always connected and therefore of extremely low risk of network intrusion - AFAIK, I've never even heard of a case.

Save your money and CPU and carry on. P.S. PPC AntiViruses are similarly useless, don't listen to PR hype.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
@@ ward

Ward thanks for that between you and snorbaard my questionshave been answerd

regarding firewalls and website security!

thanks dude

ward, zeobox Suggested that i was rude to you andmay have hurt your feeling :cry: , well my apologies hope we can b friends :lol: lol

cheers bud
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

Quote

"c) More importantly, you won't FIND any firewalls for Windows Mobile."

AIRSCANNER has one, however, its not currently for WM5 yet

Here:-

http://airscanner.com/downloads/firewall/firewall.html

Keep a close watch on AIRSCANNER for the WM5 version though
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] FOSA:
RE

ZeBoxx

How to protect your PPC when you're surfing at free hotspots?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RyanZA:
I believe that the response should be "You don't need a firewall for your WM5 device - yet."

It's very possible that there are vulnerabilities present in WM5 O/S that simply have not been found yet. There may even be vulnerabilities in WM5 that allow people to reset your device remotely, edit and remove information, etc.

Why would there be vulnerabilities in WM5?

Firstly, its made by Microsoft, and Microsoft has a very bad track record when it comes to this type of thing. Secondly, even if all preventions towards vulnerabilities were taken by Microsoft, it's always possible for one smart hacker to link together something that nobody has ever thought about before. Basically, vulnerabilities are always possible.

If there are vulnerabilities in WM5, why havent I heard about it yet?

Currently the number of devices running WM5 are very small. Theyr also very new, and thus hackers havent really begun to try. It only takes one good enough hacker to do it, though.

Therefore I don't think ruling out firewalls as being irrelevant to WM5 devices is the right way to go about it. Currently, theyr not needed, but who knows? In a months time we might all be scrambling for a firewall as some worm runs riot deleting our files..

It would probably be nice to have a firewall available, anyway. 8)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] chinnybob:
Just thought I would post to point out that when you go online using GPRS most service providers give you a NAT connection which is in practice the same as a firewall. No incoming connections are allowed, you don't have a public IP address.

This is largly because if you had a public IP all the viruses on the net looking for unsecure Windows machines would flood out your GPRS connection and use up all your credit without you doing anything.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RyanZA:
Very true - also, nearly all wireless hotspots will do the same thing, generally decreasing the amount of potential hackers to only other users sharing the same hotspot. :D

If your device ever gets hacked while using a hotspot, look around for the guy with the laptop trying to look the other way. :twisted:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vijay555:
As I understand it, there's built in facilities for port redirection and monitoring in Windows Mobile already. Whether or not you'd wish to use it for anything is down to a coder.

As everyone is saying, there are two distinct issues I see here:

1. Are your communications secure between PDA and Server?

2. Is your PDA secure to external intrusions?

Question 1 is addressed above. Use appropriate good sense, keep an eye out for SSL and https and always be weary of transmitting anything sensitive over an open channel. Would I use my PDA to buy something over the net? Probably not - I barely trust my PC browser (and I wrote and secured it myself), and although there's little reason to trust PIE less, that's not a high state of confidence. I always half expect to get cheated/identity theft-ed over the net. But use good common sense, reliable traders and be weary of all open connections that you don't control.

Question 2.

Intrusions. Again, as everyone is saying - as of now, there's not an enormous amount of damage that could be done to your PDA even if someone could stomp all over it without your knowledge. Worst case, you need to hard reset, and someone steals all your personal info.

However, there aren't many well known exploits that you need to worry about. But, that probably means that there are exploits known to those who would be interested in you.

However, since you're wifi roaming, it's likely your IP is dynamic. Somebody would have to have an idea of where you are and be particularly interested in finding you on the net to track you down. (although that's easy enough to do if they know your habits. Server logs give a wealth of info for free! I can see many visitors to my website directly from warez sites. If I wanted to backtrace to an ISP, a server or a user, the info is there in front of me)

So, someone can find you on the net. They then need to identify you as using a PDA they can exploit. They have to know exploits. They can then get access to your system. What's the worst that can happen? As everyone says, be weary of carrying very sensitive info on you phone, at least unencrypted. They're small things prone to theft and loss. If you would worry if it was stolen from your hand, don't put it on there, or encrypt it. Doubley so if you're using public wifi.

There are exploits to take advantage of your system. I'm working on stuff that could easily be classified as a trojan, and there is live code, years old, demonstrating the techniques.

Best advice: be careful. Your PDA is naked compared to your PC (which is firewalled, anti virused, and anti-spyed already. right?) Just because no one is interested in looking at your PDA's undies, doesn't mean you should flash them around. Use good sense on all public networks. However, given the hardware limitations of our PDAs, I'm inclined to say, better to leave it unprotected but not at risk (ie not carry highly sensitive info), then have CPU intensive protection that's counterproductive and unlikely to be needed most of the time.

Others would have different priorities. You have to judge what you have at stake.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
VIJAY thanks for the reply your thoughts are allways much appericated.

when you say you have secured your own browser is it a programme that's available on your site or a 1of thing that you did? someone else advised me that netfront 3.3 (or what ever the latest version is) is more secure then ie any thoughts on that.

thanks

N2h

p.s zeooooooobox guess ur sorry ass was wrong after all.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] RyanZA:
He said quite specifically his PC browser. (i.e. not a browser on his phone)

As someone said earlier, just make sure the little padlock is there. SSL encryption is good enough for most things.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] vijay555:
N2h: please be nice. Everyone is here because they want to be, and it's just good manners.

Yes, as RyanZA says, my PC browser is a custom work, never distributed. But the techniques could be brought over to the PPC at some point, but the browser has been an on and off development for several years, and I'd rather not even begin to think about the effort involved in converting it. Even I forget everything it does, but I never use any other browser.

Again, NetFront etc may be better for security, but it's all subjective. Technically to be safe-ish, you should only browse encrypted (padlocked) websites. But that's not possible on every website, and any jo-shmoe can set up a https website, so it's not 100%.

Remember, there are several distinct issues here, and your outgoing communications are one, and that won't be helped by a firewall. For this, consider a tunnel to your own anonymising server or an off the shelf solution.

Incoming exploits: I wouldn't really worry. However, being impolite to some of the guys on this board is probably a good way to test this theory. I wouldn't wish to go against the brains on here, and these are the non-malicious guys.

I just read that a new antivirus and firewall (I think) package is out. But I won't be using one, at least not at this stage of Windows Mobile's penetration and exploitability.

V
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] Killbillprime:
I promise to be Nice to every one and give them a big HUg so ifanyone wants a hug plase PM me.

Guys takeit easy and thank you for all your replies ;)
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
Hey all. Got an auto update to gear manager ver. 1.5.120902 about an hour ago. Been looking through it but haven't noticed anything different. Anyone else notice anything?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] apprentice:
Strange.. I can only see version 1.5 120601 in the store
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] highlordkram:
I am in U.S.A. Las Vegas and just upgraded, but also see number 1.5.120601. I had switched to the UK firmware to get my notifications working, could it be I am still on a UK firmware and the OP is the U.S. one now?

---------- Post added 12th December 2013 at 12:29 AM ---------- Previous post was 11th December 2013 at 11:57 PM ----------

I just updated the Gear Manager to 1.5.120601, and tested the original Note 3 email app with my Exchange Account, and it is sending Notifications now to the Gear with subject and text! I had installed the other email app 4.4(?) and had it working, but it would repeat notifications and stack 2 or 3 together if they came in close to the same time. I am not sure on the original email if there are any issues, but the test I sent myself came through perfectly. Will update tomorrow after I see if all holds up without dups or stacking.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jhobert:
Where to get the US firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] highlordkram:
I got it right off the phone's Samsung App store. Search for Gear Manager. Good luck. I am hopeful all works as it was intended now.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fbueller:
If you're running null ROM upgrade with caution - it'll wipe most customizations and you'll need to resync and reinstall them (just like when you change between multiple phones).
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] hurdleman:
yeah, I realized it only after the upgrade. All my apps from store where gone:(
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] blackknightavalon:
Just got the Gear Manager update. No new firmware update for the Gear itself.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] TopDogg1:
Do we have to update the actual watch too? And if so...how?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Jeshter2000:
Maybe there will be .... *insideInfo*
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dieracks:
Can anyone confirm that they still have root after updating the Gear Manager?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Bladder61:
I am on Verizon and got the fix they just released for Android 4.3. After the fix update my S4 downloaded the new gear manager (1.5.120601). I have been using the UK version of MK7 to get the extended notifications but had the broken Crporate Exchange email problem with the stock email. The new Gear Manager seems to have addressed this issue. I have been receiving exchange email notification on the Gear again and they include the email body.

It doesnt appear that I received an update to the firmware on the Gear (still UK version of MK7 that I loaded via Odin). Will post back more after I get a chance to look deeper into the new gear manager.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] stephy:
Please there is any place where i can read the change log of Gear Manager?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] cherylbaker:
The samsung store where you download the app has the change log

Sent from my SM-N900P using Xparent Purple Tapatalk 2
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] stephy:
Not the italian one.....

Can anybody, please post it here? thnx
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jru:
Similar setup here. Now getting the first few lines of my corporate exchange email when previously I received the 'must read this on your device' message. AT&T Note 2 (leaked stock 4.3) and UK MK7. Only change made was an update this version of Gear Manager.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] raiu:
I just updated looks like the ui is changed a little and you do lose the pictures and name of contact that show when you receive a call.. I just rolled mine back.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] Andrewtst:
My Note 3 cannot connect after update!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mvtm:
I just updated to 1.5.120601, it did a software update on my Gear too. But i was already in UAMK7. It wiped all my data too. Had to do it, otherwise it didn't want to pair my Gear with S4.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] R0CKSTAR3N3RGY:
Had that issue. Toggled the Bluetooth on the gear and it fixed.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] kelvintisw:
Singapore user here.

Gear Manager has been updated to 1.5.120601. :good:
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] csseale:
So there is no change log. And an almost 16Mb file?

What happened in there.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] halfshark:
I received the same update this morning, but it didnt touch the UK firmware I had installed on the Gear.

The one thing that is really irritating is that when I have more than 1 gmail email, the next time I get an email it will read "2 messages" and then it will only have the first few lines of each email.

Anyone have the same behavior???
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
I'm on a note 2 with the leaked 4.3 Synergized rom. My gear is on the newest MK7 null_14 rom. When the gear manager update came in this morning on my note I was able to install it without wiping my gear. After it installed I clicked the restore button in manager so it can do the pairing but it kept getting stuck at 95% of the restore. (Kind of ironic that Samsung calls this a restore when it actually wipes the gear) I forced closed the manager and since I was already paired and connected before I started the update the gear manager didn't prompt me to restore the gear when I launched it again. It went right into the app without wiping my gear. Maybe this is a way to prevent the gear from wiping on every single gear manager build update. I see no reason why a wipe would be necessary anyway. Just a thought...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dishun71:
Gear Updated to 1.5.120601

After this update my speaker on the watch is Louder and Clearer on volume +6 !!! and i can actually use it to make phone calls Now !!!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
Really?? That's interesting. What version rom did you have previously on your gear? And what version did it update to? Where you rooted of just full stock?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dishun71:
its all stock, only had it for 4-days...
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
Ok then you were probably upgraded to mk7 which is what I'm on now. It's just the UK version since Samsung was slow out the gate with the U.S. update
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mhoepfin:
Good they fixed the exchange issue, as that was all on the gear manager side anyway. Need to test the speaker to see if it's louder...

---------- Post added at 06:37 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:34 PM ----------

Wow the speaker is much louder now!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] skyline23:
I'm on the UK rom and received the GM update last night. Is it confirmed that if you were on the stock US rom that your watch will be updated too?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
That's what I'm guessing. We need one of the folks that got their gear updated to post their build number. I'm in the US but but installed the newer UK version also and I'm curious if the louder speaker is already a part of my mk7 rom. I Have nothing to compare it to since I put the uk rom on it as soon as I got it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jhobert:
U mean u got the US MK7 firmware from the phones samsung app?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jealoussea:
Update

I am really a newbie at this. Could someone please tell me where to download the UK file?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
There is a collection of stock roms posted in the first page of the main Gear thread
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] azfxstb:
Im going to test this rolling back to US rom and will go through update to see if I end up with MK7
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
Calls ARE actually alot louder even without updating Gears firmware

I just made a call and can confirm that the in-call volume of the Gear is much louder after the Gear Manager update last night. The firmware on my gear was never updated since Im already on the UK version of MK7 so its a safe bet that whatever changes were made to make this volume increase was done in the call routing from the phone to the Gear. Kudos to Samsung. The low call volume was a real PITA.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
On second thought I'm not sure what gear manager has to do with call routing since you can use the gear bluetooth speaker function on any phone without even having gear manager installed. But I swear the in call volume is definitely louder. Can anyone else confirm?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] TopDogg1:
My update must have been different...I'll show a screenshot
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] TopDogg1:
I got an update this morning...but not what I needed I guess
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] mhoepfin:
It's definitely louder from just the Gear Manager update. Almost booming loud now. Love it!!

Got the Gear on the day it was released (and have gotten Google Glass since and own a Pebble) and the Gear is by far the best wearable device.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
Thanks for confirming. Almost thought it was a placebo. So you you didn't update the gear right? Just the gear manager itself and you see a difference in the volume?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] TopDogg1:
How do I update the actual gear firmware?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] nintendolinky:
Anyone have the apk
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jhobert:
Is there really a US Mk7 Firmaware version? Ive seen people posting saying they got the US firmware but as of now I havent seen anybody posting the apk for the said firmware

---------- Post added at 03:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:47 PM ----------

Same here. Mybgear manager updated last night to 1.5.120601 but not 1.5.120902. How did they get tp download that version.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] koreankabachy:
Titanium Backup FTW!
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] TopDogg1:
Thats what I wanna know

---------- Post added at 08:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 08:18 PM ----------

How did u guys get that version...will someone plz answer the ones that got a different update
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fbueller:
That's how I did it too, but TB has a weird thing on this unit that doing a batch restore still makes you accept the installation of each app so you can't just set it and let it run. Do you see that happening too?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] koreankabachy:
Nope... Runs just like on my phone. Go into batch and run "restore missing apps and data". Let it run and reboot.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fbueller:
Yeah, that's what I do. Dunno why it makes me approve each installation.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] koreankabachy:
Ummmmm... Might be a setting. Not sure.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fbueller:
I wonder if you could do a TWRP restore after pairing it with the updated Gear Manager and it'd just start working like nothing happened.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] koreankabachy:
Don't think that would work as you would have to re-pair after restoring and back to where you started.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fbueller:
Maybe, there was no firmware update for me so it might have worked. Not sure and wasn't feeling ballsy enough to try it.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jnrdata:
Just upgraded mine from the US Samsung App store and my version is 1.5.120902 I'm on the UK firmware.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
You need the paid version to do batch restore. If you have the paid version on your phone copy the license.txt file to your sd on the gear.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] supergadgetman:
You can do a twrp restore. Just make sure you only restore the data partition and you'll be fine. That's what I did.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jhobert:
I did also upgraded last night through samsung app store but its on different version not 1.5.120902
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jnrdata:
Has anyone discovered the differences in the two gear manager update versions?
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jhobert:
This is what I got last night. Im in US I dont know if it makes a difference.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jnrdata:
This is what I got
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] dmoney94:
Just did the update...

And now exchange is working...

GS4 ,,GG and UK firmware..
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] jhobert:
Are u in US also? U using note 3? Im still trying to figure what and why there is 2 versions thats being updated.
[Samsung Galaxy Gear] fbueller:
I have bought it in the market, but I can't find the license file to drop on the Gear. Where is the file located? I've looked everywhere and can't find it. Thanks.