yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[Motorola Atrix HD] linuxsociety:
Exactly, unless people want to risk bricking a device then upgrading/downgrading the boot loader isn't too advisable. Unlocking/locking is one thing but flashing something as critical as the boot loader typically isn't something you would want to do..

Too many people don't understand that the incompatibility with boot loaders is just a security check that the proper firmware recovery and kernel is intact.. keep your current boot loader unless you know what risk you are taking (I.e. not able to boot recovery, fastboot, normal boot, and no adb)

Messing with the kernel or Rom is pretty much fool proof, but don't try to change your boot loader.. please!
[Motorola Atrix HD] mrroks:
well i like taking risk , i once had a hard bircked phone no bootloader only qualcomm usb support :D i unbricked :silly: Thanks
[Motorola Atrix HD] linuxsociety:
You almost make it sound like you bricked it on purpose too.. :p

But really having an upgraded bootloader doesn't unlock any new features or improve any performance anywhere it simply hands off the kernel image to load the android userspace..

The only right way to do it would be go back to your official stock (everything recovery, firmware, bootloader, kernel etc etc), then update the entire device with an official firmware update in one shot.

If your particular sub-model doesn't have an official update for the bootloader you are trying to use then chances are you will end up with a brick..

Of course there are going to be those that like to go against good advice and do their own thing. That's all fine n dandy, but post a step by step solution of how you did it, and more importantly why??! (Not being able to wait for an official update to kk, l, m, n, etc isn't an acceptable reason)

Trying to upgrade just the bootloader is simply playing with fire, and all android devices aren't so nice when it comes to fixing the resulting brick..
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Yea. When I first started flashing ROMs, I did so via ROM manager..never again! I flashed a froyo ROM on a GB device. Lol. HTC inspire. I recommend to never flash ROMs via that way...too risky!

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Are u planning on implementing an ota in settings in the future teckno?
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Couldn't we switch to dalvik on this LP version to utilize xposed? Any thoughts?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Google phased out Dalvik completely with 5.0
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Isn't there some workaround though? I mean, someone devd this ROM. Shouldn't he be able to fix this?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
No. Google started the phase out process with KK. Thats why we had the ability to switch between dalvik and art. Google told everyone that this is your time to prep for art, b/c the next major update will phase dalvik out completely.
[Motorola Atrix HD] bmatney:
Talk to the developers of xposed.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Ppl have been doing that since KK was released.
[Motorola Atrix HD] thewraith420:
I'm sorry for taking it lightly.... A Dev has made switching between the two bootloaders as easy as flashing a rom for the razr m users and I switch between jbbl and kkbl at will depending on the rom I want to try out.

http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php?...[Mobile-Downgrader]-Flash-Back-1.0-(09-14-14)
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Can't move apps to SD...how come?keeps saying no space and I have plenty.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
That has been there since mijuu's 12-23 version of CM.

Im happy to see that again though so thats a start.

Since this build resonates with mijuu's source code it will show this bug until its fixed.

Its one of the few that still exists with bluetooth and screen dim bug (which I haven't seen from blisspop from the main lolli thread)

Still im glad this device sees lolli, fast too, otherwise we must wait for things to be in order.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
What could be a good workaround?
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
When u access guest account, does the other stop? As in..does it still run using up memory? Thanks.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
I think it pauses (freezes) and takes up cache memory.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
I'm testing Validus right now. No major issues so far, just a coupe of bugs here and there.
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
Sorry, but I got to ask: so what is the point (or value) of your post exactly? Why not list an document (logs) those bugs you've observed if they haven't been reported yet?

But then again, it's a beta build and those are probably known issues that will be sorted out in time...
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
I was in a rush and just wanted to let people know that the ROM worked good. I don't see the problem with my post.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Just took it for a buttery test spin. Runs smooth. Animations and effects very smooth as well. Nicely darkened compared to other L versions. The contrast between dark text entry area and light keyboard in messaging app is a bit extreme but I think it's already been mentioned that theme stuff is a work in progress. Ran what native apps are available and played with bunch of settings and ran into no glitches (that is rare for on any non-CM ROM). SuperSU and Nova Launcher are nice additions, as is AdAway (just in time to battle the ad spam Playstore popups in xda app).
[Motorola Atrix HD] [] AL []:
No problem, but others and myself have already posted like so 4 days ago....

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[Motorola Atrix HD] mrroks:
i know these things dude :silly: and i love playing with fire :silly: :good:

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@TecknoFreak - waiting for the theme to be fixed :good:
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Hey you guys do know that you can take dhacker's boot.img and replace the boot.img in this ROM, right? Just an fyi i'm passing along
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Idk if its a bug..or my cell provider..but sometimes cell signal breaks and I have to chose network again. Or is network choosing pertaining to internet?
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
How is it, does the rom feel a bit better with it installed.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Should be no difference. Its only a boot image..if anything,if flashed wrong it will cause a boot loop.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Display when local camera is off force closes ui and phone. Also shuts down mobile network..but network comes back on
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
its not just a boot.img, its a kernel in a boot.img ;)
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Speaking of boot. Idk if this ROM likes any third party performance apps. I DL trickster, changed governor,then phone went into a bootloop.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Use kernel Adiutor instead.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Have u had issues with other third party governors, teckno?

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Do u have a link for the apk...km not running gapps. Thanks

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http://apk-downloads.blogspot.com/2011/06/kernel-manager-pro-v124p-apk-download.html?m=1

This one?
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Google search always help

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2986129

:p :D
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
I quit using this ROM. Went back to cm 11. The ROM is sweet...yes!but...so many force closes and data/mobile drops. Thought I'd let ya know.
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Mate something you must be doing wrong because most of your problems you are experiencing yourself. :what:
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
It could be stemming from using seeder, performance control

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Could u maybe post a link on a good zip? Let's try that. I had to do that before on a diff device.

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Should we put a supersu zip and have it flashed while flashing ROM?

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I'm asking cuz when I flash it says error pertaining to superuser.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dr. Orange:
If you're having issues with obscure apps then that isn't a ROM problem. I've had no issues with crashing besides MEGA (beta), but I didn't come on here and mention it because it isn't ROM specific. If you're having problems with system specific things that haven't been mentioned yet that are system related, then it's ok to say something. Right now if seems like you're pulling every "performance enhancing" app off the shelf and are surprised when they don't work or crash a lot on a still fairly new ROM. There are going to be problems. Please keep your error/bug reports relevant to the ROM and system.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Um. Ok
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dr. Orange:
It's not aimed at you personally. It's a general rule of thumb for XDA and other forums to keep posts to a minimum and as on topic as possible.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
Answer = last line of the post you quoted ;) SuperSU is included in the ROM.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Yea. I know..but how come when the ROM zip is flashed,it states a superuser error?
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
Hmmmmm are you sure you wiping data, cache and dalvik? (Clean install) ??
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
I remember that I saw an error when I flashed, but was something like "Can't unmount /data" or something like that. Check your root permissions, it should be working fine IF you clean flashed the ROM. If it isn't, just flash the SuperSU zip again and you're good to go.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Yes. I always full wipe.factory reset,..cache, data, system and dalvik. Usually in that order.

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Yes. I have seen that as well.

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Oh yea. I forgot. After flashing ROM, recovery asks if I want to fix root..system xbin

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I was thinking...maybe we can post questions in the other thread. There are posts that could easily be confused with the o.p and the new lollipop. Just a thought. ?

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Yea. Running cwm 6.0.4. Maybe that's the issue.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Any new updates people? Seems as if hardly anyone is flashing this.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
I feel like there should be one more update with this rom though before moving on to the official cm source as it is pretty slow this time around.

Until that is straightened out, I believe should be one more take of this rom with mijuus source.

Now I must look ahead to see what other options I have to make the most out of where we are now.

I might go back to this tomorrow, just to dig in deeper.

Just imagine this within the 1/13 update, this may be a very stable option just to think of.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
From Dhacker tweeter:

"Someone needs to step up and maintain mb886 ( Atrix HD) it "should" be close but until someone has the device we won't make nightlies"

https://twitter.com/dhacker29/status/555939929545793536

If you find another ROM, I will gladly test. The thing is that the newest one was the BlissPop from 01/16, but it didn't worked. Sadly I don't have enough knowledge to maintain a device.
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
We're also waiting on a twrp recovery that is LP compatible and up to date. Should be soon on that one
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Maybe that's why I get the "fix root" when I flash lp with 6.0.4 cwm
[Motorola Atrix HD] oscar the grouch:
is the gps issue that was mentioned a failure to find device? I have it set to high accuracy and am not able to find my location.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
I am still wondering what cwm or twrp is meant for lollipop
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Its probably one we already have, but tweaked to adapt to LP.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
U mean cwm 6.0.4?
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Or anything up to 6.0.5.1
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
I flashed with 6.0.4. Maybe that's why I had those issues.
[Motorola Atrix HD] sobitthen:
ATT stole our KitKat so no KK loader?

So until Motorola releases the KitKat to someone other than ATT there is no hope of 5.0 for the 886?

Did they only release to American ATT, or is that all a myth?

Maybe find some underpaid foreign ATT worker who could be convinced to...

Suppose ATT is holding back release not because of 5.0 but because they can sell more phones.

Maybe if enough of us contact Motorola we can get them to release the code, they took the time to develop the code for the Atrix HD, they should just give it up...

We could use a list of phones that could be moved onto 5.0 without all the extra work, I know I would grab some other $100 eBay phone with similar features and toss a Square Trade warranty on it and be just as happy.

I am on the CM11 nightlies and my BT drops from time to time, phone gets sluggish even with apps to clean and prevent it, I would move along onto another device if the size is appropriate like this one was...
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
We have 5.0, its in an early stage for us. The chances of a Moto based 5.0 OTA is very slim. All msm8960 devices are requiring extra work b/c the unified builds are no more, all msm8960 devices have been dropped back down to their individual devices.
[Motorola Atrix HD] sobitthen:
Well I saw posts about how Motorola released KitKat to AT&T but AT&T decided not to release it.

And if this 5.0 requires us to have the KK loader, from previous posts, will we actually get a 5.0 with appropriate kernel or just a 5.0 facelift? I know there are many working on the project, and I appreciate their efforts, that there are device specific needs due to the many different combinations of hardware in use and code released for that hardware, are the people reporting here testing on this specific phone the Atrix HD or one of the other msm8960 variants?

I can live with the 4.4.4 on this device and not jump ship yet, I have a car dock for every ride, a desk dock in a few rooms, so bound to it for a while and would not port over to 5.0 if I lost any ability to use the docks, so will await reports of those who make it to 5.0 and use the docks, BT, WI-FI, or the HDMI without issue before considering myself. Happy testing...
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
And I personally reported in a few places that Moto released the KK OTA to ATT. ATT is ready to release, but will not release KK until Moto comes up with a decision on LP. If Moto says no LP OTA, then we get KK OTA. If Moto says yes LP OTA, then no KK OTA and we get LP instead.

Idk where you're getting this "we need KKBL to run LP" from, but seeing as we have LP prior to the split of all msm8960 unified builds (both KKBL and JBBL variants), you're clearly talking just to hear yourself talk. Furthermore, LP development has been broken down back to each individual device, so it will take time. On top of that, any claim that states that KKBL is required for LP is false, b/c older devices such as Defy, Droid X, and Atrix 4G, all GBBL devices, have LP builds in development or near release.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
I'm trying this ROM with cwm 6.0.4 again. Maybe last time I didn't get a clean install
[Motorola Atrix HD] sobitthen:
Thanks for the update and not being rude about it...:eek:

it was gathered from posts off a variety of forums.

If you can hear me talking, time to set the keyboard to the side and take a nap bro...
[Motorola Atrix HD] palmbeach05:
Thanks for not doing the legwork of going to the source for answers. You're welcome for the hrs that i put into doing the work that you did not do. Thanks for not reading my reports as clearly as the rest of us, including our device devs and contributors. I'm not here to be nice to you, i'm here to report accurate information and provide assistance as needed.
[Motorola Atrix HD] sobitthen:
Sorry I don't have all the free time you must have and can only browse, glad you are on the bawl...

Anyhow if you did indeed correct what I had read elsewhere, thanks.

when I have time I will read it...
[Motorola Atrix HD] oscar the grouch:
Been running this over night and so far so good. Upgraded to the latest cmw recovery before flashing and had no issues.

Things I've noticed.

Can't turn off the camera shutter sound anymore.

Changing battery light settings is non functional

keyboard shift key is odd colored (previously mentioned)

Alot of previously customizable options are gone but its a new build so I expected that. Call quality was good and my internet speeds are working.

Chrome is being dumb but that's not a LP issue
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
What recovery did you use?
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
... or you could just ignore people who seem to be chronically unpleasant bullies ;).

[EDIT LOL I had intended to reply to [MENTION=4697929]sobitthen[/MENTION] but messed up, perhaps to an even better end. We'll see.]
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
The previous post was intended for you.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Hey iron tech.. What recovery is recommended with this ROM?
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
As for recommended there may be better options but I installed Validus-LP-v7.0-2015-01-06-validus_moto_msm8960_jbbl with Philz Touch 6.43.6/Clockworkmod v6.0.4.8 (which I already use so it's already on phone). It was a quick test of the ROM without gapps but the ROM installed fine and restoring back to a CM11 nightly worked as well without having to change recovery.
[Motorola Atrix HD] rlillard:
Validus 2015-01-06 Atrix HD

I have a spare mb886 for playing/testing with Philz 6.50.6 / CWM 6.0.5.0. I too installed Validus-LP-v7.0-2015-01-06-validus_moto_msm8960_jbbl and mini-gapps. I have been using it and installed many apps for several days The carrier is T-mobile. No FCs or reboots. The following things work for me:

Nova Prime (launcher)

Default camera and gallery - stills & video -- also HDR camera

News (NY Times, Wash Post, BBC etc...) including embedded video shorts

Google Maps and navigation (with full GPS function)

Google Music, Poweramp with Bluetooth

YouTube, Pocket Casts -- over Chromecast

Send & Recv text messages with & without attached photo

Phone with BlueTooth and speaker with good echo cancellation

Data speeds obviously vary by location and signal level. LTE, HSPA+ HSPA and Edge all work. I just now ran Open Signal on HSPA and got 10/3 Mb/s. on a 3 bar signal level. I have seen 20Mb/s on downloads over a strong LTE signal.

I have not tried the HDMI cable to external monitor. ( I use Chromecast).

EDIT: I tried a HDMI cable. It plays 1080p smoothly. I don't know what to expect WRT audio, but adjustments made of the VOL buttons caused the audio to mute rather than adjust the audio level.

I have not tried tethering, yet. If there is a problem when I do, I'll update this post.

EDIT: I have tried WiFi tethering - it works fine.

I have little previous experience with this ROM. I tried it once when it first came out and was turned off by the blood and gore look. For that reason I moved on. Now I get skulls without the blood. I'm not crazy about that either, but it is better than before.. I have grown accustomed to the CM look and feel and would probably use that if I could find a CM12 build for the mb886. Validus differs from CM (AOSP) but not so different than it is too difficult to adjust to it quickly.

When dealing with the OS notification and setup menus, Validus feels a bit slow. I suspect this is intentional as the app response is quite snappy. I could be wrong about this, I am just reporting my subjective feeling.

Battery life is probably good. I say probably because I have installed the "Dynamic Notifications" app. This app keeps the screen on and the mb886 display is not AMOLED. If I were to uninstall Dynamic Notifications and do the battery mod, it would go all day with radios blazin'.

It will be interesting to see what other ROMs become available. If none, this is a solid choice and one I would use for my daily driver.

One question, where can if find the Validus project? I have googled quite a bit and haven't found a site where I can track development.

Hope this helps.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Um.. There is a way to replace boot splash
[Motorola Atrix HD] mauchito:
Now, THIS is how you review a ROM. Well done.
[Motorola Atrix HD] IronTechmonkey:
I'll be tuned in to see how this test goes, especially because L used ART exclusively.

On AHD/MB886 I've gotten micro-hdmi out to work only on stock JB (post heartbleed patch). Attempt on CM11 msm8960 jbbl 1/1/15 nightly under ART did not work. There was communication between phone and TV but image/sound never on TV as was the case with stock. Same CM build on same test rig also failed after conversion back to Dalvik. Next test will be on build that was never converted to ART and back.
[Motorola Atrix HD] Dr. Orange:
It worked perfectly with your Validus 4.4.4 with an HDMI female to micro-hdmi male adapter. Of course it was slightly laggy but not unpleasantly so. Pretty neat trick when you don't have a private network to connect the chromecast to. I do not remebwr what build it was, I just remember that it worked over the summer when I tried it. Sometime in July or august.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
18709 antutu benchmark. Not bad!
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
I tried it out when the first lollipop rom came out for our device, and it worked flawlessly.
[Motorola Atrix HD] mrroks:
CM12 has now Theme Engine , where is the new build ? :( which fixes the theme issues ?
[Motorola Atrix HD] Justatechie:
We wont get nightlies until someone steps up and maintains our device.

More importantly the reason why we got deunified was because cm-recovery it can no longer allow us to unify hdpi and xhdpi devices.

The only rom that has a theme engine is liquid smooth 1-20 built just for the mb886.

but that theme engine just doesn't work, themes wont get installed
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Did a clean flash again with no gapps, and still get asked to fix root before rebooting..why dies it do that?
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
What would happen if I flashed an updated superuser 2.45

Also, browser occasionally say err_connection timed out or refused. I was looking at xda.com
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Regarding putting apps on SD card..could partitioning my SD card help with that? The settings in apps where it says default storage location.....?
[Motorola Atrix HD] TecknoFreak:
This is beta build, better things will come. This was posted for our followers to taste what it will come later. Dont expect this rom to be as solid as the Full/Completed version will be guys.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Yea. Thanks..but just letting ya know issues. Like I said before, I will post logcats but you said not to. Lol. Good job guys.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
Su flashed fine.

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On cwm 6.0.4 and no option to partition SD card. Maybe in next release ROM will allow app2sd
[Motorola Atrix HD] DiamondJohn:
I previously had an Xperia ray with only 420MB for user apps. I used CronMod INT2EXT4 to move the data (and cache) onto my SD Card without having to "move apps to SD" as that was where the data partition was already; and some apps cant be moved or do not move all their data. And with a 64GB card, I could make it 2GB or even bigger if I wanted. I'm rebuilding that phone (with only a 32GB caed), and now its 3GB.
[Motorola Atrix HD] oscar the grouch:
Having an issue of no media audio from YouTube. Uninstalled and reinstalled no change.
[Motorola Atrix HD] marknoll:
I was reading the op of that script. That would be awesome. This ROM would run eben more fast being able to move apps. Thanks for the heads up.

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YouTube don't work for me neither. I just use a web browser.
[Motorola Atrix HD] oscar the grouch:
YouTube working fine. It was my speaker connection. Gtg now