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[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
There is no such thing as "normal operation", clocks change all the time so our battery doesn't die by 11AM. Some Sammy apps get access to more performance, others hit nowhere near maximum for efficiency, which is why benchmarking doesn't tell the everyday story. It tells developers how far the HW can go, and the Note 3 shows the SD800 raw capabilities better than say the benchmarks of the Nexus 5.

For everyday performance like Chrome, Flipboard etc., use Chrome, Flipboard etc. for testing.
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
Yeah a lot of the reviews on the Play store are saying it actually lowers their overall score
[Nexus 4 General] failly:
IMO, it's like doping.

The athletes(Samsung's phone) can run fast but without this doping(benchmark booster file of Samsung) they run slower.

There indeed isn't such thing as a 'normal clock', but there is such thing as a maximum clock frequency, pushing this frequency means overclocking.

In some way it isn't cheating because overclocking is a known term.

On the other side it makes it cheating since 'normal' that doesn't know sh#t about overclocking, will have their phone getting overclocked without even knowing it.
[Nexus 4 General] ChavitoArg:
I can confirm is still working, gonna upload some screenshots later.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] ChavitoArg:
Why would someone run a benchmark? Because they care about the scores.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] Ibrahim.Rahman:
To check the performance of their device, and to compare it with others. To check performance differences before and after flashing roms etc. But definitely not so that they can lie about how powerful their device is, when it really isn't.
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
If they care about the scores, why would they intentionally use an app to make those scores completely inaccurate?
[Nexus 4 General] ChavitoArg:
Dont take me wrong.

There is people that care about the score just to show off, because of it the app exist and because of this there is people using and rating the app. I wanted to show that quadrant doesnt show real performance, it can easily be manipulated.

Enviado desde mi Nexus 4 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
confirmed, it does work on 4.4.2 using motox dalvik

but it's fairly obvious if you have used it lol.. on my nexus 5 I got 15000 plus io score
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Yes there is such a thing as normal operation.

They cheated. They were the only ones that overclocked the gpu for any apps on its white list. Nothing else could ever use that gpu clock period. It detected a app and gave the system a higher clock than the device would otherwise be able to hit. It's pure cheating.

They also basically turned off the thermal throttle. Another pure cheat.

They aren't doing this for developers. What a crock. They're doing it to cheat and inflate benchmark scores so their devices look better on a chart or in some clueless YouTube reviewers video.
[Nexus 4 General] Zenety:
The app just puts everything to max frequency. Not much of a hack..
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Supercars are speed capped for street use, and you know you'll never run them at full speed; yet watching a car show I bet you wanna see them pushed to the limit, don't ya?

The point you are missing is that if Samsung can make the Note 3 blow the roof over your head, then you can too if you are a talented developer, otherwise why even bother with benchmarks, you don't need such power for your everyday apps. Quite the contrary: Samsung & others cheat every other app setting lower clock policies for longer battery life. Now tell me how many happy Note users are complaining that their alarm clock or live wallpaper doesn't run at full clock?

If they don't, why do you?
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Pure nonsense.

Just stop with these fail analogies.

This is not about the note.

The cheated like no other with gs4. It didn't matter how good of a dev you are. You don't have access to a overclocked gpu state that the benchmark apps on the white list did.

They don't change settings for every other app for battery life. That is normal operating procedure. Where your clocks change to meet system demand.

I don't give a crap what a single note user or any other user thinks period. That is irrelevant to the discussion of Samsung cheating.

I am not missing any point. You're simply wrong. Samsung cheated.
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
No, cheating would be faking the scores, which is not the case, and when I said talented developer, I referred to someone who's capable of bringing out the extra clocks like Samsung does. Or now developers with OC ROMs are cheaters too?

The smartest kid is Sammy in this room. They didn't target the masses with this who don't even know what a Quadrant is, they targeted the 10% that does and gonna spam the crap out of the internet about this injustice, creating incredible free press for the product. But at the end of the day if you actually do want to see what the Snapdragon 800 and the Adreno 330 can really do at their full potential, the Note 3 is going to be a better platform to find out than the Nexus 5, and that's what benchmarking is for, end of story.
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
You're just dead wrong.

Anybody is capable of overclocking with kernel source. That is not what they did. Not even close.

If any custom rom / kernel did what Samsung did with the gs4 that that is cheating too. They would be flamed to no end.

You also have no idea what benchmarking is for either. With that fail in logic there is no need to even benchmark any consumer device since qualcomm shows off the reference design months before any consumer product is done.

Benchmarking is not about launching a app and having the device hit a otherwise unavailable gpu clock, turning off thermal control, and hotplugging all your cores in and keeping that at max clock. They do even more things too.

Yet you're in here going Samsung didn't cheat. Please. Defend it with stupid analogies that make no sense. Nonsense about what benchmarking is for and so on. They cheated period.

Oh they didn't fake the scores! Fail. Samsung doesn't own the benchmarks. They don't control the actual numbers that come out. What they did do though was set their phone up in a way that even if you rooted the device and used performance governor ( locking the clocks at their max) in a freezer you could never get the performance that phone gets while one of the apps that are flagged for boost get. Change the apk to a different name. Can't get it. Write a game, can't use the clock. Never mind all the other stuff on top it of it like thermal limits.

Yeah that's not cheating.... Can't make this crap up.
[Nexus 4 General] Nuu~:
So Intel using VLC and a pre-recorded video to show off the IGPs performance isn't cheating and lying either, isn't it?

Because, you know, a good programmer can make use of the HW decoder, right?

That said, the extra performance is not readily available to the end user, so it's falsely showing something the user is not able to use.

It would be the same as GPU manufacturers such as AMD showing benchmarks from the HD 7970 to advertise the HD 7950 because they use the exact same silicon with just a few shader units either deactivated or lasered off.
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Samsung is smarter than that, they are not selling their devices with optimized benchmark scores - YOU PEOPLE ARE who either write their articles and reviews based on them or discuss this "cheating" creating the necessary buzz to sell another batch. I guess I'm one of you too...

Cheating is a point of view. Lance did use PEDs to win the Tour, yet he still, you know, won the Tour and set records, so I'd call it an unfair advantage but he didn't use a motorcycle which would be cheating.

But hey, Samsung should just release the uncapped performance for all and have you ppl. recharging your phone 5 times a day. No cheating, yaaay!
[Nexus 4 General] eng.Colombo:
kkkkkkkkkkkk
[Nexus 4 General] meangreenie:
Holy, someone sure loves Samsung round here.

They so smart.
[Nexus 4 General] forever_lol:
The best quadrant scores i noticed on my sgs2 were those on cm7 and not on stock GB.
[Nexus 4 General] maulich:
What I find funny is some of you will actually install this and then brag about the score in some lame benchmark or over clock thread. You people hate yourselves :)
[Nexus 4 General] jayRokk:
+10000

Not only that but benchmark scores don't reflect real world performance, and can easily be tricked to spit out high numbers. (Which was the purpose of this thread) and I agree completely, now we'll have a bunch of people on development threads going "I love this ROM so much xD look at my scores!" Just cluttering them with nonsense.

Benchmarks scores are like a Task Manager.

Useless on Android.
[Nexus 4 General] Overdose1986:
Wanna get higher scores?

Run this command using a terminal emulator(root)

#!/system/bin/sh

mount -o rw -t tmpfs tmpfs /data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.standard

mount -o rw -t tmpfs tmpfs /data/data/com.aurorasoftworks.quadrant.ui.advanced

try quadrant now.

before

http://img543.imageshack.us/img543/8026/screenshot201203230020.jpg

after

http://img26.imageshack.us/img26/7315/screenshot201204031835.jpg
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Wrong again Bob.

People call them out on it because it's cheating and wrong.

Just like the Internet was a roar when we had the quake / quak thing years ago

Oh how dare you call out the cheaters!

Cheating is not a point of view. Cheating is cheating period. And Lance cheated

And for that battery analogy fail. Nobody is saying they want that clock avaliable. Just that Samsung should not be using it / overcooking to it to cheat on benchmarks. I don't want my device to use it. Well I don't want my device to do anything at all the Samsung did with that fail of SoC period.

Yeah Lance and Samsung didn't cheat! A motorcycle LMAO.
[Nexus 4 General] BoneXDA:
Your condescending tone does not change the fact that if you buy a Note 3, your device too will pull those kinds of benchmark stats if that makes you happy... I dunno why you're so obsessed with benchmarks cause they hardly tell the end-user story (see Nexus scores), but Samsung clearly hit a nerd I mean a nerve there, cause I'm pretty sure you're more outraged by this than ppl. who actually bought the darned phone... Bob.

P.S. it's still not cheating if the device can do it, and it won't be cheating tomorrow and next year either.
[Nexus 4 General] AlderCass:
This thread is like
[Nexus 4 General] bladebuddy:
Even better way to cheat. Edit you're build prop to look like the cheapest crappy phone you know.

Run the benchmark then post the results, guarantee you will get a stupid amount of comments regarding how you got the highest score. The point being benchmark scores can be cheated and mean nothing to the end user. Just be happy with the performance of ya phone or buy a better one.
[Nexus 4 General] simms22:
every benchmark app scores can be manipulated. but, we trust the users from not manipulating them. you are only lying to yourself when you do manipulate them. scores can show you if they are manipulated, as it gains points in the wrong areas. anyways, its only people that feel that their devices are "slower" than everyone elses that will manipulate scores. but they know their real score, and they know their scores suck.
[Nexus 4 General] PJcastaldo:
Setting up a device to overclock its self beyond the originally set maximum when a benchmark app is open was intentionally done to male it score higher than other devices with the same soc to seem like the better choice.

Cheating .. maybe not..

Unethical .. most definitely. Especially since it only does that action when a benchmark app is open..
[Nexus 4 General] howard bamber:
I'd rather use bionic etc and get a real life boost to performance

Sent by reversed alian technology.
[Nexus 4 General] bondarun:
I usually get 8k+ on Quadrant with Dalvik and Bionic tweak :D
[Nexus 4 General] howard bamber:
Quadrant is a joke. Has been since multi core phones came out

Sent by reversed alian technology.
[Nexus 4 General] pousti:
Thanks for the help, worked great!!
[Nexus 4 General] Crisisx1:
What's the point?
[Nexus 4 General] albundy2010:
Thanks to whoever bumped this thread. So now I see this

You're just flat out wrong. Again

The note 3 DOES NOT cheat in the same way the gs4 does. They do the same thing as most of the other players in the market with it.

I am not obsessed with benchmarks. You're obsessed with defending Samsung and their bull crap. Oh they didn't cheat blah blah.

They cheated period.

It's not about what the average consumer does or notices with their phones either. If somebody did the same on any other device in the computing space they wouldn't notice either. But there would he outrage from the entire industry. And there was when it happened in the pc space in the past.

You're completely clueless as what to Samsung did and what devices they did it with.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dep:
Hi, I'm a .NET developer and I want to start to develop mobile apps.

My last device is a KJAM that need pen-tap to toggle radio on & off and this is a little frustrating for me (especially when it rains). So I decided to develop a simple (!) app so I can switch my phone on and off simply pressing the "red" button (for example).

Now I found how to bind the red-button-press event to my app but I really not yet found the (damn) method that let me to switch the phone (radio) on and off.

Can someone give me PInvoke samples to use in my C# app?

thnks
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Conchas:
At least I can point you to an application, that does what you want.

read the thread http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=34831&highlight=

See my posts there (Conchas), and the .exe turned available by Koksie.

The same .exe toggles between enable/disable.

It is really great
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dep:
thanks a lot ...

even if I wish to develop this app by myself (to start to "surf" the PInvoke hell) of course your advice will help me to reduce my frunstration switchin on my phone :-)
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] Conchas:
You can always PM Koksie, asking for the function call he used.
[Windows Mobile Development and Hacking General] dep:
I'll do it but he downloaded the program ... in the meantime ... the hardware button "4" now switch my radio on and off :)
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shakrooph:
Hi,

First of all I'd like to say I tried to look this up in the forum but since my problem is kind of a combination of several problems, I failed to find a proper solution.

I have a rooted galaxy nexus running 4.3 deodexed. I downloaded a Mod to flash in CWM Recovery. Did a flash and factory reset and as I tried to flash it, it gave an error and aborted the installation and since then I can't get the phone out of bootloader. I can enter recovery mod from there however, I can't boot the phone.

Unfortunately I don't have a stock rom or any other zip/img/tar etc file on my sdcard.

When I plug my phone on bootloader I get the error message FASTBOOT fail command

I downloaded adb drivers but when I try to use adb push command I get an error message saying "ADB is not a recognized as an internal or external command etc." I'm doing this on the folder where extracted adb files.

I used to skipnote nexus toolkit. But even though I can get it to recognize my phone on either fastboot or adb mode, I fail to flash / push or install anything on my phone. If I try ADB, it waits forever on waiting for ADB phase. If I use fastboot however, it gives an error message and aborts the operation.

Downloaded & installed kies on the computer. I tried ODIN to push files but I failed at that too. Seems like Odin doesn't recognize the device.

As a result, I can't use my phone right now. I'm open for any suggestions for installing a stock rom and unrooting or rooting and installing a custom rom.

Thank you all very much in advance,
[Samsung Galaxy Nexus] shakrooph:
solved

I used another laptop with a fresh skipnote nexus toolkit and everything worked just fine.
[Kindle Fire 2 Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting] NighthawkXL:
This is the forum of the newer version of the Kindle Fire HD from Q3 2013 and beyond correct? The sub-forums are a bit cluttered... just trying to get some research done before getting my device later in the month, but want to make sure I'm in the right section or do I want the 7' HD section.

Thanks!
[Kindle Fire 2 Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting] stunts513:
There isn't exactly a sub forum for the new 2013 models, but just to clarify so far we only have root access on those. No ROMs yet like cm because of the locked bootloader. Closer area to post would be in the hdx forum but I have seen some posts in the general and the respective size HD model sub forum. Unless you did mean the hdx, because there is a sub forum for the hdx.
[Kindle Fire 2 Q&A, Help and Troubleshooting] NighthawkXL:
Nah its the new revision of the HD not the HDX. Thanks for clearing that up :)
[Galaxy S 4 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] muiacir:
Hi guys

I asked these questions in our country forums many many times but no answer

I need only 2 way or apps to my questions :

1 - how to send flash sms(class 0) by my 9505?

2 - i want an app or a way that when someone wants to connect my phone to pc , he could see the files and sdcard and etc but can not copy the files from pc to phone or phone to pc

Thanks
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Ginosius:
Hi folks,

Lately I've been running CM11-based roms.

I tried a few but OneDroid seems to be the most complete and solid one.

Everything works however I'm missing the Beats Audio preset from the stock HTC roms.

I tried messing with the DSP manager, got close, but it's still not the same.

So did anyone port over the HTC Beats by Dre audio preset to CM11 (by using a Xposed mod for example) ?

Thanks
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] syllogyking:
it's not possible to get beats on CM. try noozoxide from PS instead.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] regenwurm16:
Hey I tried Noozxoide EIZO rewire PRO for that matter on Sense and with the audiophile setting it's even better than beats audio... ;)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] shaitan667:
Maybe try Viper4Android?

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2191223
[HTC One X] vbaros:
I'm thinking to flash AOSP or any other ROM to get 4.3 and eventually 4.4 (I hope).

Has anyone did any tests comparing the camera quality on the Android Stock roms VS original HTC Sense roms?

Is the special camera chip still active?

Is it fast as the original Sense?

I'm trying to examine the ups and downs of moving from original Sense roms to something more close to stock.
[HTC One X] convict_moody:
I noticed some bugs in landscape mode in some aosp and cm based r4.3 roms, I suggest u test the rom u want to install or check its thread to find if someone complaining.
[HTC One X] treebill:
Aosp doesn't use the hox imaging chip so pictures are worse than sense.
[HTC One X] vbaros:
That's bad :(

One of the reasons people bought One X was because of the image quality.
[HTC One X] vbaros:
I've found some comparison pictures.

They are definitely better on Sense ROM:

http://imgur.com/a/yhHRK/all
[HTC One X] treebill:
also auto focus on videos was ery bad when i last used CM.

i would stick to sense, if you want a light rom then you can use blade or use rom cleaner on any rom you like, it will strip out as much of sense as possible without breaking the framework
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mukulsoni:
Hey guys... I just thought to post this new CWM Recovery v6.0.4.6 which support SELinux for device like LG-P500 (arm v6).

UPDATE: New recovery can flash all CM 10+ ROMs and CM 11.

This recovery has RAINBOW theme, Wana try press vol+ vol- button and then continuous press vol- and reclick back button. Enjoy KITKAT 4.4.2 and other CM 10+ ROMs on this CWM 6.0.4.6 recovery.

Update December 26, 2013:

recovery and format of sdext

Update Jan 16, 2014

Flash all CM10+ and CM11 ROMs

Backup restore problem solved (Linking Dexes and showing "zero' system space after boot)

___________________________________

Please 'HIT THANKS' if this really help you, Thanks meter encourage developer to work more enthusiastically
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Dovidhalevi:
Very nice recovery. Did the trick for KitKat ROM.

Note however bug I found:

While previous 5.0.2.7 would fail to backup sd-ext, this one succeeds in doing so. Great.

However when restoring, sd-ext fails trying to format the (ext4) partition.

Word to wise: Backup sd-ext to PC before experimenting.

Note the 5.0.2.7, after a factory reset, left me with this partition unwritable so rather have it fail than bashup :)
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] laofan:
could we ask one for P505?

thanks
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] nomancoolboy:
You can ask hephappy ...

If you can contact him...

he

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[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] nomancoolboy:
We all have that problem ..

Just flash another recovery ..for other roms
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] borchaniz:
I have the solution for this problem(ibub told me about it)

Just copy the assert statement(first lines in updater script) from kitkat roms to the rom you want to flash and everything should be fine.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] nomancoolboy:
Flashing another recovery takes 4 seconds
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] hemanth86:
Well, People who tried Kitkat preview can post their reviews.

Does this Rom works with network fix for old baseband?
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mukulsoni:
Just try this... could work for p505 too..:good:
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] z1022:
What kind of tool for easy to edit updater script?

Thanks
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mukulsoni:
Use Notepad++, google it...:good:
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] smariob:
:D

It Works!

No Cell Sevice. No Wi-fi. No Bluetooth No Gapps. But Looks Nice! xD

Photos:
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] z1022:
I know Notepad++ but I don't sure how to re-zip the ROM.

Can I follow below link??

http://lazydroid.com/2011/03/howto-repack-and-sign-rom-image-update-zip-files/
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mukulsoni:
I would suggest you 'Cygwin' tool for that, just find on xda forum, you will find linux command too..;:good:
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] xu3sno:
[MENTION=5396524]mukulsoni[/MENTION]

Firstly I would like to thanks for your excellent work of this CWM Recovery :cool: As you suggested on the Android 4.3 thread I did install this recovery, flashed cm-11-UNOFFICIAL-20131216 with no error :good:, and kitkat booted on my p500 eventually :victory: :beer: :cool:, as reported by others.

Brief review for Recovery

Bit laggy compare to v5.0.2.7, can not backup and restore sd-ext. (failed on /dev/block/mmcblk0p2. Error while formatting /sd-ext). It's the culprit kitkat failed to mount sdcard?

Request:

It"ll get 5 stars for touch version :cool: as v5.0.2.7 by vivekkalady. NotOnlyEyes provided touch (well, actually not fully touch from my opinion) version 6.0.4.5 but an error occur while flashing cm-11.

Anyway, thanks for the great works :cool:
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] Dovidhalevi:
Seems only laggy to get first menu, a couple of other places. Can live with that.

The failure to format is its own error, I believe. Saw commits about a fix.

The other error is that clearing Dalvik Cache also kills link2sd's on sd-ext. At least, this should be a option.

Generally, touch versions are more problematic, sometimes do not fit screen, etc. Better off as we are.
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mukulsoni:
New Update: SDEXTRestore fixed :highfive:
[Optimus One, P500 Original Android Development] mukulsoni:
Update December 26, 2013:

recovery and format of sdext

http://xdaforums.com/showpost.php?p=48367371&postcount=1