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[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Style68:
Review

http://www.engadget.com/page/3/
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
It comes with CWM And TWRP installed.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Tommy-Geenexus:
The Z Ultra GPE has X-Reality and Clear Audio+

Well done Sony this is the way to go..

Sent from my Xperia™Z»4.3Leak«
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
In which case a copy of a nandroid backup after a factory reset would be awesome. :D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
You can't access it without root. I filed a complaint.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Bugger that would have been a wonderful solution :D Thanks for trying anyway.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
Why that? What is your device telling you? Have you unlocked bootloader or is it not possible to do ?

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
All Google Play devices have unlocked bootloaders. It comes with CWM and TWRP. When you try to access recovery, you are told you cannot run privileged commands (you need root.)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Can't you just flash supersu? Or is it more complicated than that?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] gbohm:
Your z ultra came bootloader unlocked and with twrp and cwm. And you bought it from Google?

Neither do phones from Google come bootloader unlocked by default nor do they have custom recoveries installed.

You can easily unlock their bootloaders and flash a recovery of your liking but both should not there be by default
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jasonyu007:
4.3leak ? Were do you get this rom from ?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
You are 100% wrong. I've verified I have CWM & TWRP recovery on board with ROM manager and article below backs up my claim bootloader is unlocked as it always is on Google Play Edition devices.

http://androidandme.com/2013/12/new...ny-z-ultra-google-play-edition-now-available/
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
It comes with unlocked bootloader like all Google Play Edition devices.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
Please detail what I should do.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
What exactly are you trying to do again? I'm lost after reading all the GPE posts all over the forum.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Zurginator:
Quick question (and an odd one :P)

Does the pencil-stylus option still work (writing on the screen with a pencil)?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
If the boot loader is not unlocked you can flash this zip from recovery go get root

http://download.chainfire.eu/370/SuperSU/UPDATE-SuperSU-v1.80.zip
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
root
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
I can't access recovery without root. That's the problem.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
Pen input with stylus (handwriting recognition not supported) http://developer.sonymobile.com/2013/12/10/introducing-sony-z-ultra-google-play-edition/
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Oh, now i get it. Hmmm.. Maybe we should ask @DooMLoRD what he thinks, or maybe [MENTION=631273]Chainfire[/MENTION] (CF Auto Root)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Sorry i thought you already had access to cwm and twrp. Also re my previous post just to clarify you MUST have an unlocked boot loader to flash the su zip otherwise it will fail. Damn autocorrect screwed with my original post. Don't flash the zip without an unlocked bootloader:thumbup:

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Also if if you an unlocked bootloader I'm pretty sure you could flash a boot.img from fastboot to access custom recovery, but wait for one of the devs to confirm that first. Considering you can't use PC companion to repair I'm not sure how you would go back to stock if something went wrong.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] abuihsan:
It is strange.. Kitkat Omni ROM not rooted by default and it has cwm/twrp recovery and we can flash supersu 1.80 zip to get our ZU rooted.

Also I did it with my old S2 which got nightly KitKat on omni. It also not rooted by default and I must flash the supersu 1.80 to get root.

Is 'adb sideload .zip' method will work in this case?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] stiggy2012:
This is what you need to do. Use fastboot to boot into a boot.IMG with a recovery, such as this one:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2548092

Once you're in recovery, you can flash supersu. You can then reboot, and using dd pull the system and boot partitions from the device for us all! :D

Shout if you run into complications or are unsure on anything.

Oh, and one word of warning: Be careful when using fastboot not to accidentally flash the boot.img, whatever you do. Just use the 'fastboot boot xxx' option, not 'fastboot flash xxx'.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
[MENTION=1346722]Bin4ry[/MENTION]

(This way he'll get a notification)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
I think the main thing is you must have rw access to the system partition for flashing su zip from recovery to work. This can only be done I believe with an unlocked boot loader. Even if you have custom recovery with a locked bootloader flashing the su zip will not work.

I won't claim to know about the adb method buddy.

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That sounds like a plan, but I'd wait for a second opinion from Binary or another dev that this should work.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
I agree. I'm working with Krabappel and Google support on all my issues..
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] rockky:
So what's the fix for not being able to Uninstalled apps, or not go into security?

Mine the same. Have factory resetted via bootloader (Google recovery) : ...same problem.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] DooMLoRD:
i think sony will probably introduce oem unlock for this device since its GPE... let me talk to few ppl and get back to you...

you want to unlock bootloader right?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] fastest83:
From what I just read I think the bootloader is already unlocked and he only needs root access to get to CWM or TWRP.

Why I don't understand is why an official Google Play Edition has CWM and TWRP installed, since they're as for from "official" as they can be.

I mean, I understand the unlocked bootloader (but even for the Nexus 7 it wasn't unlocked by default, hence the need of oem unlock), but custom recoveries??
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] anirudhks:
yes its quite strange to see custom recoveries on GPE devices as they are technically managed by Google , why would it come with CWM or TWRP .. its like Samsung shipping phones with Cynogemod lol...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Leechoonhwee:
Apparently that seems to be the standard for gpe. My HTC One gpe also came with cwm and twrp.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
ok please do me a favor and atleast try this method exact like i am writing this (except doomlord or krabappel has already done it with you):

download this advanced kernel:

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2426736

Now go to fastbootmode and type:

fastboot boot kernel.img

your device will now try to boot (NOT FLASH) the kernel we gave it by fastboot. Once you see the phone booting press the volumerockers a few times until you reach the recovery that comes with the kernel.

Now you are in a custom recovery krabappel has build, please try to "root" with supersu.zip from this recovery by flashing the zip.

Once you are done you can just reboot and your phone will boot again the original boot.img.

Please test this and report back to me.

Once we have the phone rooted i will give you instructions to fully dump all partitions (except your private data of course), and we can use this dumps to flash our phones to GPE phones over fastboot / recovery conversion packages ;)

Thanks for you help.

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] fastest83:
Edit: sorry double post
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
Google asked me to put the phone in safe mode. I did that and still had the same issues. No solution yet.

Starting Your Device in Safe Mode:

Ensure your device's screen is on, then press & hold the Power button.

Touch & hold the Power off option in the dialog box.

Touch OK in the following dialog to start safe mode.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] warfareonly:
Please do what Bin4ry said. Ignore El Goog.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
Recovery screenshot
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
Bootloader locked. Need to access security settings: Device administration. Manage device administrators, allow apps to be installed from sources other than the Google Play Store app, and choose to verify apps from all sources. Security settings force close.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
Please try what i told you! My way does not need a running or prerooted system.

Turn device off and start it in fastboot then follow my steps please....

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
I do not understand your instructions. Which fastboot? The one on my Mac or the one on the phone? Either way it is a problem. The Mac will only recognize the phone as a media device (MTP) and show media files in Android File Transfer, will not accept PTP or data transfer with USB connect or otherwise. The phone will go to fastboot mode but will not start in fastboot mode or recovery. Get Android belly up with red triangle and ! mark when I try to start in fastboot mode or recovery. Ditto for download. Is it possible FTF would work?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
Aha,

well no. FTF will not work. I do not understand what you mean with fastboot mode on MAC ?!? You should go to fastboot mode on phone, then go to your commandline and connect with the fastboot binary to your phone. Can it be that you are unexperienced in this kind of stuff ? :) No offense here, but maybe you can try to read a few lines about fastboot/adb etc etc before tinkering again with your precious phone :D

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
I went to fastboot mode on the phone by holding volume up, the power button and inserting the USB cord. When I try to start fastboot or recovery in fastboot mode I get Android belly up with red triangle and ! mark.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
Worth mentioning there is no kernel.img inside the link you have pointed to.

The image file is called adv-stock-v5.img

So could it be that his fastboot command line needs to be different?

Its probably worth mentioning to him that the .img fie and the fastboot command need to be in the same folder as well :good:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] stiggy2012:
OK, sounds like you're successfully managing to get your phone in fastboot mode which is good.

When you say "When I try to start fastboot or recovery in fastboot mode I get Android belly up with red triangle and ! mark", do you mean that when you run the command:

"fastboot boot adv-stock-v5.img"

You get the Android belly up with red triangle picture?

Could you please paste the full command and output from the terminal screen on your MAC?

All true and good points. Fastboot and the adv-stock-v5.img file should be in the same folder, and the command run should be "fastboot boot adv-stock-v5.img".
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jutley:
why don't a recognized developer remote access with his permission and do it for him using teamviewer a lot simpler.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
If anyone wants the /system files, PM your email and I will send a link to the files in a few hours.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] warfareonly:
warfareonly@gmail.com

We'll also try figuring out the fastboot problems, OK?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kramnod:
I would recommend using google chat/hangouts or yahoo messenger or other messengers out there to directly communicate with developers and vice versa so that giving instructions would be easy and real time and not so much time consuming..

Thanks for the hard work guys!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Yeah, this isn't effective. It's like sending letters to your neighbors when you can easily talk to them. Not saying that you should use use your mouths and show your faces to each other on Hangouts or Skype (since a lot of people aren't comfortable with that), but at least chat on Hangouts or something. That way we'll save a lot of time on waiting for the other person to see the reply.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
And that is exactly what you need! From here now use a console on your pc and fastboot boot the image!

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] virtualepiphany:
I am familiar with adb/fastboot etc. I would be willing to do a hangout with a dev and get them anything they need from the device. I won't be available until after 5pm CST today, but I should be around most of the weekend.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kramnod:
There you go!

All we need is a Dev that would like to do some guidance and we should have the GPE running on our non GPE ultra soon.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
PM Bin4ry and get on it :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] jutley:
is this gpe rom compatible with uk c6833 z ultra
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] krabappel2548:
Maybe it's better to try my radioactive kernel since that's for kitkat?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] TimeTurn:
Someone with the ZU GE might start PC Companion and let it download the current firmware, then build a FTF with flashtool. That should contain everything including bootloader and modem.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Shadow of Chaos:
Hey folks, I've had trouble getting a Z Ultra from Amazon for various reasons Unrelated to Amazon, so I'll probably have the choice between trying for a Z Ultra or getting a GPE edition.

Anywho, few basic questions for those with one: Does the GPE even have a TA partition, or, more to the point, is it needed for the X-reality stuff?

Have you been able to root it?

Or, more to the point, have you been able to put custom Recoveries on it?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
According to Sebring, Recovery is pre-installed on the GPE, but i believe the thing now is to gain root. Regarding the TA partition? I'm not sure, but it does have X-Reality, so i'll say... i'm not sure :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
thanks
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
Device is defective. Google is replacing it. I've ask them to overnight a replacement before I send this one back. No details yet on if Google will honor my request and how the transaction will actually be done but it is in the works.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] warfareonly:
Instructions

All right guys, final, AIO guide to get a nandroid !

Factory reset or else you'll get personal data backed up too

First, boot into fastboot mode

Then boot a kernel from this thread. Use v5 kernel.

DO NOT FOLLOW THE INSTRUCTIONS OF THAT THREAD

Now, make a nandroid (you know how to :p;))

If it doesn't work, flash superSU via that recovery and then boot into recovery again and try to get a nandroid now.

If the nandroid doesn't work and you have flashed superSU and have root, download Orange Backup and do a nandroid via it.

If it still doesn't work, trudge along, gents ! ;)

To dump follow these instructions :

STEP 1:

- In your device, use any explorer that can get you to the device's root partition (personally I use ES Explorer or root browser, by pressing on "/" on navigation bar).

- Go to "/dev/block/platform/" folder

- Here you will see some files and folders, we need to search for the folder called "by-name" inside one of them; example it was "dw_mmc" folder which has the folder "by-name" inside it.

- At the end, my targeted piece info will be (/dev/block/platform/dw_mmc/by-name)

- Now open adb shell and put that command..

You should end up with something like this

http://i41.tinypic.com/rsg20h.png

STEP 2 :

After locating the mounting point of the partition you want to dump, open adb shell command prompt and type:

For example, for system partition:

Note:

If the partition is formatted as ext3/4 then the dumped partition will have .img as an extension.

Other partition dumps have different extensions; examples:radio.bin

param.lfs

Sbl.bin

zImage (without extension)

N.B.: We don't need CACHE, USERDATA, EFS as far as I understand.

Lastly, upload them already :D

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Please try what I suggested as a last ditch attempt :)

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We're going with the "Samsung" approach - throw everything at the wall and see what sticks :cowboy::silly::eek:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Looks like a plan to me! :laugh:
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Sebring5:
The only way I have been able to do anything helpful is to zip files with Root Explorer, upload to Drive and provide links. I have system files and can provide links to those. If you need other files tell me which ones.

If you cannot make suggestions that are executable, I cannot help. You are not reading my posts. Again: I cannot start fastboot or recovery but I can boot to fastboot mode. Fastboot mode enables me to start fashboot, start recovery, power off or reload bootloader. Nothing else. The bootloader is locked. Again: I cannot access security settings to enable sideloading or loading from unknown sources. Again: I cannot download from the Mac. I can only access the phone on the Mac through Android File Transfer with MTF (Media Transfer Protocol.) PTF (Camera Transfer Protocol) or USB debugging does not work.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] warfareonly:
You'll have to elaborate here, mate. I'm not understanding :confused:

What do you mean by " can't start fastboot but can boot to fastboot " ? You want to say that fastboot commands don't work when you connect to pc in fastboot mode ?

Try one more thing- when you get the android with red triangle, press the Vol+ and Vol- buttons repeatedly. Please report back with the results.

Or is that what you're talking about in that ' enables me to start fastboot, start recovery etc ' part ?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Shadow of Chaos:
Forgive me if I'm making you reiterate things you've already said, but is it not possible to unlock the bootloader on Sony's site in the same way you do with other the other Z Ultras?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
But... it should be bootloader unlocked out-of-the-box.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] baileyjr:
That does surprise me because not even the normal nexus devices are unlocked out of the box... Unlockable yes, unlocked no.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] fastest83:
I don't think it should mate. Even the various Nexuses come with a locked bootloader, but if you want you can unlock it without losing warranty with a simple oem unlock command.

At least my Nexus 7 came that way. ;)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] warfareonly:
Okay, try this :

fastboot oem unlock

When connected in fastboot. This should unlock bootloader.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Woops! I meant to say "unlockable" :p
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
I really think you have a software problem on your Mac. You should have be able to unlock directly with the command mentioned above.

I could peek a look via teamviewer but I never saw a mac in my life. Anyone with windows or Linux willing to grant access on teamviewer to dump partitions? (won't copy userdata!)

Regards

Gesendet von meinem C6833 mit Tapatalk 4
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] encryptioncsta:
i take it the GPE ROM isn't up yet :(
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] krabappel2548:
Same issue here, no Mac experience...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] fastest83:
There's no real difference between mac and Linux in terms of terminal and commands.

After all, they share the Unix core.

This is to say that if you can remotely see (or act) on his computer (providing he's OK with that) you'll find an interface similar to Windows (folders, right click etc), then you can start Terminal (you'll find it in HDD/apps/utility/) and work your magic. ;)

Edit: now that I think about it, there may be a driver related problem, but I'm not sure about it... just give it a try...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
i see, like i said i did not work on a mac before. I dont have problems in trying, but i am not sure if i could fix any driver issues. Atleast if someone is willing to let me on his/her pc and connect the phone in fastboot mode i will try all i can ;)

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
People, please let Bin4ry use your computer. Mankind needs this.

Note: Hide your porn collection.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] fastest83:
Well, I said there may be some problems with drivers, but then I remembered that when I unlocked my Nexus 7 I didn't install any drivers, it just worked right away.

I sure as hell won't let anyone use MY computer... :shady:

:D
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] warfareonly:
Sharing is caring!
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] kramnod:
Almost fell off my seat.. Haha

If only I had the GPE Ultra I would
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] virtualepiphany:
I'll be home in an hour and a half. I have owned every GPE edition as well as Nexus devices. For starters "Google Edition" devices do not come with unlocked bootloaders be default. They are "unlockable". Two totally different things.

I will try to fastboot oem unlock on mine when I get home. If I get that far I will report back and we can move forward. Any of you devs, binary/lord can feel free to pm me and I can find you on google hangout.

@ The OP, Regardless of what google told you exchanging your device is unlikely going to solve your issues. To my knowledge everyone who has one has the same issues. The "reported" failure rate is currently 100%. Not a single person who owns one has said theirs works fine. This is clearly a software issue.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] TheManii:
If you are able to make a dump, could you also dump the bootloader and radio?

The play edition one/s4 have had their sources released for 4.4.2 very recently, an update will likely be out soon and there is a high chance that everyone will ota without a dump ever being made.

That is assuming no ftf's (am I using the correct terminology for sony devices?) are available for KRT16O.S3.1044,

the gpad did have a tot of the initial rom, so there was no need for a backup from that.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Bin4ry:
The Radio firmware will be the same like on the non GPE device.

We don't know much yet of the bootloader of this device, as far as it seems the GPE is not acting like a norma Sony device and because of this it cannot be flashed by the usual methods. My wild guess it that it has a "normal" bootloader in cotnratry to Sonys usual s1boot "special" bootloader.

Because of that reason we are not able to "dump" the FTF/SIN files from SUS/EMMA etc. etc.

The "best" way to act here would be to dump all partitions like said before and then analyse if we are able to flash it (first) on unlocked s1boot devices with fastboot or through recovery. I would NOT recommend to try to convert the bootloader of a non GPE device to a GPE bootloader with real fastboot and recovery partition and vice versa! For now we have to wait until someone with a device is able to pull some partition dumps, then we can tell more ;)

Regards
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] virtualepiphany:
Just got home, sorry for the delay. As I stated the bootloader is locked. I'll be online if a dev wants to contact me and we can push further. FYI, I run on linux for anyone offering steps. Here is a link to the bootloader screen

https://plus.google.com/photos/115254496253717993402/albums/5957022368035216177
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] TheManii:
Could you take a picture of the fastboot screen itself?

At least on the play editions of the s4/one, they more or less acted like standard nexii as far as fastboot goes (bar device specific bugs)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] virtualepiphany:
that is the fastboot screen...
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
I googled for 3 minutes, and according to the internet (quality source), "Secure Boot" is pretty common even on the Nexus 4, and some HTCs. What does it do, and what does it mean? I have no idea.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] TheManii:
Oops i didnt notice the link, my apologies,

is there an entry for recovery mode in the vol up/down menus?

you should be able to just fastboot unlock -> boot a recovery (assuming the oem zu C6806 one works) if it doesnt deviate from other play edition devices
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] virtualepiphany:
so i just tried adb reboot recovery and I got green man with a bang (!) and "No Command" under him. Doesn't that mean recovery is damaged or missing?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] TheManii:
No that is correct as that's what the stock AOSP recovery looks like.

Hold down power and vol up and it should bring up the standard aosp recovery options.

Those arnt much mind you, only thing you can do is flash signed otas and factory reset.