yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] truckerdewd:
I updated stock via odin and rooted it the day it was released so I got the updated boot loader. Was running it until yesterday. I decided to give this a try so I flashed it last night and must say that I am very pleased. Thanks for the great job to Matt and everyone else that helped. You guys did an excellent job.

Sent from my wickedly awesome Galaxy Note 2 using my fingers. Duh!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] UnixSlayer:
This is the problem with T-Mobile.... takes them forever to approve, and certify a new release. By the time it's out, the next upgrade will be out. And with all the reception problems now.... what a pain in the rear. In my area, AT&T kicked them off their towers. I had a fantastic 4g LTE connection for a year, and now it's spotty at best. Even the 4g is spotty.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] bumrocky:
Lost root flashing v 2.1

I installed v2.1 and lost root. I was coming from the Jedi Master 4.3 rom, so I think I already had KNOX...I've tried flashing root to no avail. I still get SUPERSU and all other apps telling me I don't have root. Any help, please?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] OvrDriVE:
knox is removed from jedi, are you flashing root or trying to fully reroot?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Coug76:
Try updating the SuperSU app in the Play store.

Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] bumrocky:
I flashed v2.1 from JediX 4.3, and discovered KNOX was on my phone. I had gone from Jedi 4.1.2 to Jedi 4.3, so KNOX got on somewhere in there. I wanted to go back to a more stock rom because I was having issues with Jedi 4.3...Once I flashed v2.1 from this thread, I lost root, and stock recovery was put on my phone, and I couldn't root it again because KNOX was stopping it.

In the end, I odin'd the 4.3 version found here http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=1975560

This gave me my root back, and I should be good until 4.4.2 comes out in the next few months.

Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
There is no recovery, bootloader or any Knox in this rom. I don't know why you would lose root since it is a rooted ROM. You must have updated your bootloader for Knox to be blocking anything
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] bumrocky:
Please understand, I wasn't trying to accuse, or say the ROM was faulty. I totally could have gotten KNOX from a prior ROM or the custom bootloader I used to upgrade to 4.3 originally in the JEDI path and didn't realize it, or I was just stupid and flashed something incorrectly. Even though this ROM doesn't have KNOX, once it's in, it's in, and there's no going back. So I blame myself and KNOX for losing root. It just so happened to cause issues while I was working this particular ROM, and I wasn't able to re-root through the normal, documented means. I was just trying to share my experience, and if I didn't explain myself enough, I apologize.

As I later mentioned, I was able to ODIN a different ROM (since this one was a straight flash through recovery, and I couldn't try to reflash due to ROOT loss). So all is well now. Again, it was strictly a sharing of the experience I had with this ROM that I thought someone else who might have a similar situation (no matter how unlikely), might find useful, and how I fixed my situation.

Thanks!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
did you try flashing a recovery with odin then flash supersu? might have saved you a headache. but there is no way to get KNOX from this rom. You say custom bootloader? Do you mean the 4.3 bootloader? if so that is where knox comes into play. but I havent heard of it replacing your recovery before. check out this thread http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2541343
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] xterminater07:
thank you for the great rom... however I keep getting random freezing on my phone when I use the default internet browser of the phone. I have devil's kernel installed, would this be the kernel's issue or not?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] premiatul:
It is a kernel issue. Find and flash Agni kernel and you will have no more problems.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] xterminater07:
Thank you I will try this and see. Another issue I'm having is the hi galaxy voice command doesn't work. I turned off the lock screen swipe too, all other command work fine just that will not. Also do I need Google Now Launcher for it to work properly with the ok google voice as well?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] josephh71:
ATT Note 2

WIll this ROM work on ATT note 2?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
sure I don't see why not. don't flash the modem
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] momchi:
confused?

Matt, I am confused - how can i *not* flash the modem? As far as I see, the modem is not included in the zip, and this is a flashable ROM for CWM/TWRP recovery, not an ODIN image.... so is there a modem in this ROM?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Modem is separate zip. Don't flash it if you are not t889.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] moonpie28:
Hey! Matt Lowry! What Ya working on?!?! Anything interesting?

(And I mean no disrespect by this post. Just being playful. And inquisitive).
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] gill_za:
Coming from http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2636552. Decided to switch due to missing s-pen functionality.

1) wiped everything in TWRP 2.7.0.2: data/system/dalvik/cache

2) flashed v2.1 rom

3) without rebooting flashed superSU

4) reboot and stuck on Samsung GALAXY NOTE II sign.

5) TWRP flashed the modem file and flashed the Devil2 kernel.

6) reboot and stuck in the Tmobile 4G LTE sign...

7) TWRP wiped data only

8) rebooted and stuck in the Samsung Galaxy Note II sign again...

9) Wiped everything data/system/dalvik/cache

10) flashed v2.1 rom

11) wiped data only

12) reboot and stuck on Samsung Galaxy Note II sign

what am I doing wrong?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] dramitt_live:
Can anybody recommend a good kernel to work with whis rom?

Sent from my TWEAKED KITKAT note 3 powered by BioShock kernel
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Bad download maybe?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Coug76:
Agni or Devil.

Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] gill_za:
Nope. I remember I redownloaded when failed the first time. My phone is picky.. or my hands are growing from my @$$...
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Coug76:
I hate to say this...

Try philz or CWM.

I love TWRP but YMMV.

Hastily spouted for your befuddlement
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmt125:
I'm on version 1 do I need to reflash the modem or just flash the ROM file to go to v2?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Only the rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmt125:
Do I need to wipe everything? Or can I just do a dirty flash?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
I recommend a full wipe but you would probably be OK just dirty flashing. If you encounter any weird issues try a full wipe
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmt125:
I just did a full wipe and updated to the 2.1 version. The only issue I'm having is that my wifi doesn't turn on...should I flash the devil kernel in the OP?

Thanks in advance
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
either devil or agni kernel should work
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmt125:
Thanks I was able to update to v2.1 however I flashed the wifi tethering because it wasn't working. I'm able to now open the app but my laptop won't connect..should I try a 3rd party app?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Sorry. I didn't test it myself. I am on 4.4 now and have been using foxfi successfully
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmt125:
are you on ez Roms?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
No. My rom in this forum. Romofthrones
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] xamindar:
Man what is going on? Every download link I can find on here is not available anymore. Did someone take everything down?

I'm still on 4.1.2 and desperately trying to upgrade. Anyone have a download link or maybe point me to the correct thread?

Thanks.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
Oops...I thought this was Rom of thrones.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] upsmanraz:
Does anyone have the file to fix tethering? I have an att note 2 on tmobile that I loaded this rom onto. Everything works perfectly but tethering. The link for the fix directs to "the file has been deleted" page.

Update. Figured it out. Installed att version of Foxfi and tethering started right up. :thumbup::)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] amanvir:
VERSION 2.1:

*May need to wipe data if problems arise.*

if not on 4.3 bootloader flash devil kernel or apply the Dr, Ketan patch

flash this for tethering thanks to kintwofan!!!

http://www.mediafire.com/?d7urbj7bdi92b62

This link is no more valid plz refresh it, i want this file for my phone
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] b3ltazar:
I remembered on sky note we had to do that so I flashed the att mj4 kernel took pics and re flashed devil worked!

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Try using es file explorer
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
Tried ES same thing. That folder is there the internal sd is I'm neither of those.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] free2saute:
If you flash this rom can you nand back to a back up not 4.3 with twrp?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] scariola:
A file manager on market should show your space as a graph or something else.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] erm1001:
Yes. It should work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
Sdcard0 is internal memory.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mastermindx85:
Where can I flash the 4.3 bootloader?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ebatr8:
I knew this already, the problem was that the internal contents were gone due to the new way android organizes internal storage. My old internal storage was in neither of those folders I looked extensively and was not able to find it. I just gave up and flashed back to 4.1.2 so i could move my stuff off my phone and back.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Magnumxxxl:
tether

How can i enable tethering? Doesn't work
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] venomshot629:
Wi-fi tethering, or USB?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Magnumxxxl:
Wifi tether. Gonna wait till someone finds a fix for it. Everything runs well for me except that and no flashlight on the notification bar. Unless someone knows how to add that I'm all in.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Bronyr:
Installed as per OP, everything works. :)
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] youStolemylaptop:
flash the OTA update or download from sammobile and flash it through oden.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] wolfpack612:
Same happened to me when I first updated to 4.3 through kies. The only way I knew my stuff was still there was because of the space used. I went back to 4.1.2 because I missed my setup. I then moved everything from the 0 folder to the root directory and deleted the 0 folder. I'm back on 4.3 and it seems this time it mapped it out correctly. But just like you I couldn't find my original internal storage files. I didn't mess around too long though.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] ytj87:
I think in ES explorer I had to tick root browser and show hidden files to find my stuff. This was on an S3 I flashed over to 4.3.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Don't do it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
Just got my first Random Reboot. Phone was still plugged in charging.

And while I was trying to setup G Wallet I noticed that NFC would not turn on..so in turn I couldnt setup G Wallet.

If I go into Settings and tried to turn NFC on a popup came up saying it has stopped...

Gonna dig into it and see what I can do.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] slick4mitch:
Mine turns off and on just fine, no FCs.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] sabresfan:
My SD card wouldn't mount. I restored tweaked and the problem continued. Now I've restored omni and everything is back to normal.

Update

SD card is recognized again. I formatted my internal storage and restored a nandroid.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] timtampa:
--

You can use this guide, I've had really good luck with it.

http://highonandroid.com/android-ap...r36+oid-smartphone-or-tablet-universal-guide/

I can also confirm that I got it to work just fine with this ROM.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] LowaEastSide:
You know what I found remarkable, I read some where (forgot exactly where) that if I preform the OTA update to MK7 (from T889 MD1) I will not be able to revert back to 4.1.2 because of the KNOX Security or because of the updated Bootloader, I'm not 100% which reason, however before I did the OTA update I did a Nandroid Backup to my SD Card of the MD1 Rom, Now everything went well when booting into the new MK7, the only problem for me was my Tethering option wasn't working cause I was on a Custom Rom while on 4.1.2 MD1 (thanks to the Developer of the NoteS4_V6.zip), Big UP to Him, Nuff Respecttt. So thats when I read this Post (Big up to You MattLowry, smooth Rom) and seen that it has the Knox removed. :) Thats when I said to my self it wouldn't hurt to try to revert back to the MD1 I had saved on my SD CARD, long story short after wipping everything and flashing back to the 4.1.2 MD1 everything booted up nicely and know I'm back to tethering, so happy. The Best part is I can boot back and forth if I want cause this 4.3 Custom Rom that's Knox free is a great Rom, I've been running it for several hours with NO issues, Nice an smooth with NO lags, and it is FAST and snappy. Thanks to ALL the DEV's on this Forum and XDA Period....!!!!!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Sherl:
How is battery life with this 4.3 rom guys??

Any lags? Planning to move on!

Many thanks OP for making it KNOX free!
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Battery for me has been good so far. Usually on 4.1.2 if my daughter played mine craft it was bad news for my battery. Yesterday she played and didn't kill it. I was shocked
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] dw9906:
Post not found with that link. Can you repost it? Thanks
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] timtampa:
XDA broke this link too, Tiny URL link to fix

It appears XDA's forum butchered it somehow, as it was working.

Here's a tinyurl link toit http://tinyurl.com/d7r7kbq
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
Not sure if all the issues I'm having is related to the kernel or Exposed. I'm gonna try a fresh install without exposed and see if my problems still occur...

Btw I was using Devil2 Kernel as well.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
I need someone to do this on 4.1.2 rom and upload the contents

adb shell

su

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7 of=/mnt/sdcard/param.bin

how to extract it to sdcard via terminal emulator:

-install terminal emulator on your device

type the following:

Code:

su

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p7 of=/mnt/sdcard/param.bin
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] martybg:
Can u tell me what applications do I have to Delete for the Carrier IQ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
They have a pink sprocket as their img
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Skater4599:
I wanted to thank the OP for this, I was able to get it installed and booted without flashing the bootloader and using Devil2 Kernel, also Root works as it should :D

I like the update! Definitely want to use it as a daily driver. I seem to get better reception with LTE and 4G also. however it seems to randomly lose cell signal completely, constantly on/off, not just data but the entire cell signal, text messages and phone calls cut off, it always comes back but It doesnt stay on. Am I the only one having this? I must have done something wrong installing? Anyone have any ideas :(

I was able to clean out the system apps and Carrier IQ with any root explorer, I use File Manger by Rhythm software or something, its great.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] martybg:
So everything that's from T-mobile needs to disapear ?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Iconic24:
Is Wanam working for anyone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] free2saute:
http://www.androidfilehost.com/?fid=23252070760974821

All the links keep timing out on me any chance i can get another alternative please?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] domynaite:
Heres my param.bin from 4.1.2

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9HPVKl2Ns5YZi1zUm9NdWJUXzQ/edit?usp=sharing
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
You need the new modem look a couple pages back for it
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] martybg:
My device cannot be detected by my computer? Any ideas?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Anyone have heimdall installed and funtional?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Works for me
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
That is all I have sorry
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] martybg:
I have the ROM on my phone and I wanted to Upload it... but now when I plug it in the computer it doesn't recognize it, I mean it beep's like when u plug it to charge but ... I can't see my SD Card and Internal Memory on the computer.. It was working before on the 4.1.2 all of the drivers are installed also.. can anyone else confirm if your computer recognize the Phone?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
And in your csc folder and features . xml you need to edit this line to say false

<CscFeature_CIQ_BroadcastState>false</CscFeature_CIQ_
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmarranzino:
Go to dialer

*#7284#

Select Qualcom

Mtp&usb

Do the above while connected, should pick it up.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
I need someone with heimdall to extract th pit file
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kpierredev:
???

is there anyway we can flash air command (like on note 3) on this time rom?? Thanks a lot for this btw loving the update so far.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kingskidd268:
Try this app it worded for me on 4.1.2 https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mohammadag.samsungusbmassstorageenabler
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] martybg:
Thank you sir it worked for me..

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I would put this in the MAIN page so that everybody can know..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Bruce lee roy:
Not sure if this is going to help anyone having fc or sd card issues but I recall from the n3 forum poeple reporting possitive results from formating sd card for a better 4.3 experience.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] free2saute:
Got it on my note2 all working well for now will give it a couple days and report back great work.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Bronyr:
can't find that folder, could you please oblige?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] free2saute:
Not working for me after reboot no changes......?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
What exactly isn't working? Also did you update the app and xposed?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] sabresfan:
Thats the problem I was having. Ive formatted now and Im restoring everything now. It was time to clean up anyway.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tyronekndrck:
where can i get devil kernel, link wont work
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] free2saute:
nothing opened up app made changes and rebooted is there more than that that i need too do?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
read a couples posts down from op

Open xposed installer

Update xposed

Install framework

Update module

Activate module

Reboot
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Note 3 keyboard from skynote thread works with this rom. Probably launcher also
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] its_ja10:
so far everything works fine! thanks for the quick rom!

for the time being this is excellent. hopefully dwitherell delivers quick with tweaked :good::good::highfive::highfive:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] milt006:
Is the rom link down? Is there an alternative?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] blessup:
What has better battery life devil kernel or stock? Dont wana upgrade bootloader if devil still has better battey life.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] lmarranzino:
Note 3. . 5 x 6-Laucher works well...

PS. Huge Thanks:cool:
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] booma428:
All ive been reading regarding officially updating had me hesitant to update, ended up flashing the new modem and devil kernel and everythings running smooth on so far skynote

sent from a note taker w/skynote 4.3 note 3 edition
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] free2saute:
Link please :D
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kozmo21:
Here you go... http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2497994
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jokeyvong:
Does anyone else get touch wiz errors on home screen from ota?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] skriefal:
I'm a relative neophyte to this. My T-Mobile Note II has broadband T889UVBMB4, Android 4.1.2, and TWRP 2.6.3.1 installed (just updated from 2.5.0). Do I use TWRP to flash the ROM and to flash the latest supersu?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] p.rodriguezt1:
If I do this can I go back to 4.1.2?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] jack_d12:
i flashed rom then super user ... during setup noticed there was no wifi so i flashed the kernal and everything is working fine.

What is the modem file for? will it give faster lte speeds?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Ducter:
If you flash the boot loader then no, currently can not. You will have to flash the devil kernel. Read this thread as the information you seek is here.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
/system/csc

Also the are the apps that need deleted
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
I do. When I reboot and unlock the home screen it says TW Launcher has stopped..then it works normally after that. And my NFC still doesn't work. ..mind you I didn't flash via OTA first but only flagged Rom, SU and Devil2 kernel. So that could be the issue.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
I did the same and haven't had even 1 fc
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kim621973:
Yes.Launcher is working..but weather widget disappeared. .

Any idea to get weather widget back..

Thank you..
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kski71:
You have to download that weather widget and flash also

Also when using the note3 launcher with this rom the flick up magazine from home screen doesn't work
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kim621973:
Yes..I did it..

Thank you.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] tyronekndrck:
I love how the battery life is way better than 4.4 android. But my network keeps turning off I have to turn on airplane mode and turn turn back off then my network come back
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] kintwofan:
Flash the new modem and it'll be fixed
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] xftox:
Can I flash the new modem even if I'm on a 4.1.2 rom
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Yes
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] starkruzr:
I flashed the ROM without flashing the modem, from 4.1.2, and my WiFi doesn't work. About to flash the modem. Do I also need to flash a new kernel? The kernel link on the front page is broken.

ETA: I should note that I wiped system, data, and cache before flashing.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] Double0EK:
If you haven't OTA'd or Kies'd or Odin'd to the 4.3 Update then you'll need flash the Devil2 kernel. You can flash the modem for ****s and giggles.
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] starkruzr:
Is this the one I want? http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2239453 Devil2-1.8.5-t0lte-DUAL?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Flashing the modem fixes data drops
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] md1008:
Can I use this on At&t Note 2? I am using unlocked N2 on Tmo
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Should be able to. I was on yalls skynote for a while
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] hodgestl:
Is the correct Devil Kernel link going to be added to the 1st post in the OP here (with some warnings as to when it is needed and when it is not)?
[T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II] mattlowry:
Look 2 posts down from op