yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Re: READ THIS!!! WM5 & HTC are taking the pi..!!

Sorry Ipasq. :(

Maybe my bad experience is clouding my judgement somewhat. All I'm saying is that if you find yourself tweaking and upgrading more than you use the device, ....somethings wrong and you should consider what you set out for when you bought it. if your experience is a good one with minor setbacks (which your happy to live with) then ignore my experiences.

I'm currently re-testing/evaluating my Device with just the minimum of software installed, that I cannot do without, maybe that will highlight problems with a specific application (but I doubt it!) To try and remain fair to the rest of HTC product owners, I will post my findings if they are positive and I will humbly retract my complaints but if they proove to remain negative, I'll keep it to myself so as to not deter anyone from indulging in WM5 PPC/phone!

Good luck either way. :wink:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] khngaroo:
Re: Give it up!!!

Hi,

I think you have got a very bad experience there. I've been using smartphones from motorola MPX200 to Sony Ericsson's P800, Motorola's E680, O2's Blue Angel and now Dopod 838. Let me tell you, I must admit that WM2003 was quite buggy, however, the new WM2005 is real neat. I wouldn't say Microsoft has done a bad job, cos I've used worse device. P800 running on symbian was really a horror. I've promised not to ever use a symbian phone again after my bad experience with P800. (am I sterotyping then?)

As far as I am concern, WM2005 runs almost perfectly, if not flawless. and I've not experienced what you have been through. So, lets not come to a conclusion just based on your bad experience, okie? :)

(Kinda makes me wonder if u work for Sony, the way you put things? :P) No offence plz, just my 3 cents worth. ~.~!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kenshinjeff:
Re: Give it up!!!

Hmn ok thanks for the heads up in advanced. However, I don't see how converged devices will improve if SE's the only one doing it somewhat correctly.

Sure, MS and HTC probably both suck in someway, but I don't get why you had to get 4 of the same devices to figure that out. I mean like, most people won't even go past changing the same device for the 3rd time.

While I'm sure your information is valid in someway, it's kinda obvious to me that not everyone is suited to use a pda phone, or pda for that matter.

If you have that experience as a developer, you should know that new stuff that MS comes up with usually comes with a truckload of problems, in my opinion, you should have stuck with a laptop or maybe some blackberry option, or even pen/paper.

In the first place, I highly doubt that the pda phone was designed to totally do away with the traditional pen/paper combo anyway.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] Mvmajorem:
I'll agree with this line. There isn't really an OS that can run efficiently. If you want a phone to function as a full pledged PC, it won't happen. There are a lot of things we need to sacrifice. I would suggest the Nokia 9500 as the perfect business phone for you.

To me all phones are great...

great paper weight.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] strikeIII:
what a lot of people tend to do is as soon as they get a device they automatically think they should start tweaking and updateing things.....what some people dont' understand is that every tweak and every upgrade will be different for others....people need to try out thier devices for a few days, maybe weeks depended on how often you use the devices features, and see if your device really needs the tweaks or not....that's what i do, i use my device then as soon as i see that something can be changed or needs to be tweaked i'll see if there is one out there, i do it one at a time try it out for a while then move on to the next, so that way you'll know if that tweak is really stable or not, don't do all the tweaks at one time......for some people the device is perfect right out the box.....just something to think about....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] difensore:
i understand your frustration ... i myself having a plethora of smartphones / pda phones ... i personally happy with my xda exec ... why? because anybody who goes into this realm of pda phones should understand that the HTC products are always been PDAs first and Phones second ... with this premise, upgrading the ROM regularly is part of the whole experience... I also have all SE p800, p900, p910 which are all great Phones then having the great PDA functionality ... while the p900 and p910 have minimal differences, they are very good phones first and then very good PDAs to boot ... but you see even the more stable SE P series phones need to restarted and have their own version of hard reset (though not as frequent as their Windows counterparts)

ps i'm not even going to those Palm Treo 600 / 650 devices which are nothing but a last ditch effort of palm to try to get into the wireless phone realm ... they are just not as good as their windows / symbian counterparts ... and why get blackberries if you can get blackberry connect on your windows mobile / nokia / sony ericsson p9xx phones?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Hi All!

Thank you very much for your candid replies. I appreciate that everyones experience will either vary somewhat or be totally different. However, I firmly believe 'If it ain't broke...don't fix it'!

I have only ever upgraded because of issues with these devices and only ever applied tweaks, because improvement was MUCH needed!

I hear you all the same though, if your not up for fight stay out of the arena. Sorry all, but I'm not a defeatest. I'm not giving up, merely venting my frustrations for becoming a free-tester for Microsoft and HTC.

It wouldn't be so bad if they offered us a 50% discount on purchasing these devices as we are the ones getting to the root of their buggy devices whilst they charge us for it and then charge us again (in FULL) when they implement our improvements into their next versions of Windows Mobile devices.

Just my opinion, but I'm sticking to it. :wink:

Old T-mobile Rom:

Rom Version: 1.3.2.2 ENU

Rom Date: 9/29/05

Radio version: 01.04.10

Protocol version: 4.0.13.17

ExtRom: 1.3.2.102

Updated T-Mobile ROM:

Rom Version: 1.6.2.4 WWE

Rom Date: 11/15/05

Radio version: 01.12.10

Protocol version: 4.0.13.23

ExtRom: 1.6.2.105

Current ROM:

Custom ROM: O2 ROM

Rom Version: 1.5.4.2 WWE

Rom Date: 11/8/05

Radio version: 01.12.10

Protocol version: 4.0.13.23

ExtRom: Removed by default (xtra 10 megs in extended ROM through total Commander)

They ALL suck (sooner or later). :D
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kevin666:
HTC UNIVERSAL

Stay well clear of the XDA EXEC!

I am on number seven of the XDA Exec and finaly given up

so many faults.......

CASE MARKS>>>£600 phone and the keyboard hits the screen and rubs the letters off the keyboard AND MAKE SHINEY MARKS ON THE FACE OF THE PHONE...dont HTC test these before they sell them? EMAILED HTC ABOUT THIS ISSUE...THEY NEVER REPLIED...

SPEED.....THE FASTEST PROCESSOR AND ITS SLOWER THAN MY XDA2???

HANGS UP DURING CALLS BY ITSELF........JUST ABOUT THREW IT OUT MY CAR WINDOW....PEOPLE THINK YOUR TAKING THE PISS WITH THEM CAUSE IT HANGS UP SO OFTEN

ALARM PROGRAM IS A JOKE......SLEPT IN SO MANY TIMES CAUSE OF THIS PILE OF SH..I.T

SCREEN RES IS LOVELY BUT THE GLASS IS TOO THIN!! SO WHEN YOU WRITE ON IT THE LCD PANEL DISTORTS....ERR DOH! :evil:

Going to get it swapped, may go back to the XDA 2i or maybe the mini s but the CPU speed on that may be an issue for me :shock:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Re: HTC UNIVERSAL

We must be the only two dissatisfied customers left browsing these forums! :lol:

I'd advise you to go back to what works for you, cause the mini s is no better in my 'humble' opinion! :wink:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Let's hope I'm wrong!!

Just installed/updated to Qtek ROM 1.6.7.1

Will evaluate for a few days and post my experiences. Hope this prooves me wrong!!

mackaby007

Qtek ROM:

Rom Version: 1.6.7.1 WWE

Rom Date: 11/28/05

Radio version: 01.13.10

Protocol version: 4.0.13.24

ExtRom: 1.6.7.101
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] kevin666:
Why do you say the mini s is no better?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Qtek ROM stable!!??!! Maybe!!

Well it would certainly SEEM that way until now. As I mentioned in my previous posts, I've had a Jasjar which with an updated i-mate ROM, was stable but in my opinion, underperformed (everyone says it's due to the way WM5 works - bug ridden I say). I then swapped my jasjar (at a loss of course) for a T-mobile vario (Wizard) or o2 mini s etc.

My experience is that, while no bugs are visible, these devices seem like the best thing since sliced bread, but when you've had them up and running a while, the worms come out of the woodwork.

All said and done though....I updated/changed my ROM last night to Qteks 1.6.7.1 ROM and till now (about 20 hours later), not one crash, no loss of calls or uninitiated soft or hard resets! Aditionally, it SEEMS to be stable and reliable (with all my 3rd party software installed and with TI OMAP overclocking or not!).

Verdict?

Too soon to say. But I'm actually feeling rather optimistic if not just hopeful. I'm hoping that I've been wrong and that all my past experiences have been due too buggy ROMs and not WM5 & HTC. We'll see.

Another point of interest is that since I updated/changed my wifes T-mobiles MDA PRO to Qteks latest ROM, there have only been 2 lock-ups (we can live with that) and she's had that ROM for 9 days!

So it's looking like most of the instability issues we've had thus far are due to buggy ROMs.

Therefore I already feel it necessary to apologise for my negative comments and hope that anyone who has read this thread has taken the time to keep track of how things develop.

Kevin if you're interested in the mini s, don't be put of by my experiences, as there are many other factors that could have contributed to my experiences. Go for it, but be prepared for some headaches (just in case!).

Hope this helps (sorry bout the long post) :lol:

mackaby007

Qtek ROM:

Rom Version: 1.6.7.1 WWE

Rom Date: 11/28/05

Radio version: 01.13.10

Protocol version: 4.0.13.24

ExtRom: 1.6.7.101
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
I'm Wrong!!

I'm extremely happy to say, that I must be wrong, as I've not had one crash since Fridays upgrade to Qteks 1.6.7.1 ROM.

So far I can complain about absolutely nothing, as I have even exceeded my normal usage of these devices to try and hasten a crash, but to no avail.

Long live Qteks ROM!!

apologies again for this whole thread, slating HTC and co.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] rdef:
I tend to agree with the OP. WM5 devices (or ppc and predecessors) and smartphones do a lot, but they tend to be a pain in the ass and finicky.

One simple example, when a WM device loses a GPRS connection, frequently you'll have to cycle the radio to get a usable connection again. Every time? No, but often enough, where you don't trust it. Compare this to a blackberry. With a bb, the connection is rock solid and robust. No, you don't get nearly as many features on a bb, but you can absolutely count on being able to receive a call and being able to obtain a data connection, period.

I currently use a smt5600, a wizard, and a 7290. When I'm traveling and I need to be sure that I'm communicating, I take the 7290.

I liken the comparison of WM to BB OSs to a comparison of firearms . The WM device to a Colt pistol: beatiful, but not as reliable as my spartan Glock. The blackberry is 100% Glock. MS needs to work on transitioning away from the finicky Colt towards a more reliable AND feature rich device...something Sig Sauerish, if you will.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] itsmewhoelse:
I agree that these newer devices are bug ridden and do not function as advertised. My original Pocket PC Phone Edition was more useful than my Wizard is. If I hadn't broke it, I would not have bought a new one.

That said I, too, first bought a different device, the PDA2K. It just worked. No problems at all. Send/receive faxes, instant messaging, email, internet, great phone signal, bluetooth handsfree...but the keyboard! I just couldn't get used to it. Why did I trade in and buy the Wizard? I was stooooopid! I wanted the keyboard and EDGE. But, mostly, the keyboard. When I first saw the photos of it, I fell in love. It was, I thought, perfect! So I called up the dealer and he agreed to send me a KJAM for $350.00 and my PDA2K.

Now, here's just how stupid I was...I didn't even read the specs thoroughly enough to know that the Wizard was smaller. When I rec'd it, I was shocked! I liked the bigger size screen. A lot. Doh! What an idiot.

But, hey, that has nothing to do with the fact that the Wizard is not fully functional as delivered. That it's slooooow. That the speakerphone is a useless piece of advertisement for HTC/Imate. That the sound quality is crap, at best. That the phone doesn't have the ability to power up to a signal that's only slightly weak. That the dual core proc. is divided to be used separately by the phone and pc. That sometimes it needs to be rebooted just to get a signal, or for the bluetooth to work, or because the screen is pixelated. That you need to buy a 3rd party app. just to back it up. That A/S 4.x is also junk.

Why, oh why, didn't they just make a PDA2K with a Wizard keyboard? LOL

HTC/iMate, you got my last dollar, hope you spent it wisely.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Everything works as it should!!!

Hi All.

I'm delighted, in this instance, to be seen to be a plonker, as my Wizard is finally running as advertised!!

No crashes or lock-ups since Qtek ROM 1.6.7.1 install on the 17th Feb!! For me anyhow, it's official, the HTC Wizard works well and doesn't even need the TI OMAP overclocking unless you're using Skype or the likes.

HTC & Microsoft....my faith in you is renewed. Apologies for slating you.

For anyone interested in a problem free ROM, use Qteks ROM version 1.6.7.1.

mackaby007

Qtek ROM:

Rom Version: 1.6.7.1 WWE

Rom Date: 11/28/05

Radio version: 01.13.10

Protocol version: 4.0.13.24

ExtRom: 1.6.7.101

Installed apps:

Total Commander

TranCreative Magic Button

PocketMind PocketMusic

TCPMP + ALL CODECS

Hark0-Solitario Freeware

eSoft Interactive Space Shuffle

i-mate O2 UK Contract (Operator seetings from i-mate)

TI OMAP Overclocking Utility

1GB mini SD Card

T-mobile MDA Vario - fully UNLOCKED and TOTALLY SIM FREE (True Quad Band Phone)

Nothing ventured, nothing gained!!

:wink:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] itsmewhoelse:
I got my phone working decently last night with the radio rom upgrade. Yaa!

I get a signal in my house. IN MY HOUSE!!! The speakerphone works very good now. I'm happier, but nor fully satisfied.

Pardon my ignorance, but how do you make phone calls without a sim card?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Free of SIM Lock, Net Lock or any other type of Lock!!

Good one. :lol:

I meant Free of SIM Lock or NETWORK lock!! I can now use any SIM from any network in any country. Very handy if you go abroad and don't want to incur roaming charges (just buy a pay-as-u-go SIM card in whatever country you're visiting!!).

By the way, what ROM are you using at the moment?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] abgarman:
hey mackaby007!

I wonder whether you had any problems during new rom installation...

I tried this ROM, but after the installation was finished, Etx_rom installed and system rebooted I got a "device locked message. illegal ROM, given only to customers who bought their wizard/qtek at ...[]" I had to go back thru several instals to restore my original ROM (which i never truely accomplished - i have no ability to change ring tones and assign them to different contacts)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Must use correct version: lokiwiz02b.zip

Hey back at ya.

First download lokiwiz v2b. Don't use previous versions or you'll not get through this!!

Hard reset your device (not necessary, but it ensures you'll have no hassle with Activesync).

Done that? Good. Extract the lokiwiz v2b .zip folder and copy enablerapi.cab to your memory card or to 'My Documents' folder on your device. Then execute the 'enablerapi.cab'.

Done? Just switch off the device (power button; put it in standby mode).

If you have Activesync already installed, un-install it and re-install directly afterwards (ensure a brand new partnership).

Then when prompted by Activesync, plug in your USB cable PC-PPC and it should recognise as usual.

Then execute the lokiwiz.bat file (in the folder that was generated earlier when you extracted the lokiwiz02b.zip file) and when you see the MS Dos (black screen) choose the option CID Unlock (SuperCID) and wait for it to COMPLETELY finish. You'll know it's finished when your Wizard is re-booting. Plug out your USB cable at this stage.

Once re-booted and back into WM5, re-connect your cable and if all goes well it should re-connect to Active Sync (wait till it has finished syncing or says connected!).

Finally......double click the executable file, which should be:

RUU_Prodigy_1060701_101_11310_QTEK_WWE_Ship.exe

Hopefully it will now install the ROM without hiccups (about 10 minutes).

Hope this helps. let us know how you get on.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] itsmewhoelse:
I'm using...

ROM:1.1.9.3

Date:9/16/05

Radio: 01.12.10 (yipee)

Protocol:4.0.13.23

ExtRom:1.1.9.106

Everything seems to be fine, so I'm not screwing with it!

Good luck with yours. :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] abgarman:
thanks A LOT!!!!!! :D

It did work!

now i'm gonna go and try if i can tune it and make it not work again ;)

just kidding;)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Good for you!!

Great stuff!! Glad to share my positive experiences to someones benefit for a change. :wink:

Best of luck.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mnicol819:
Re: WM5 & HTC are NOT taking the pi..!! Get best ROM ava

I just stumbled across this thread and found it interesting. I often find myself thinking that I spend way more time tweaking these things to get everythign perfect than the actual productivity savings that the tweaking produces. Nobody will claim that any factory ROM is perfect but they pretty reliable when used within reasonable expectations. I come across tons of people in the corporate world that almost certainly never do anthing that isn't described in the manual and are able live happily with their devices because they can ignore a few hiccups here and there.

I am not one of those stick to the manual people and certainly don't achieve practical benefits that would come close to justifying the time that is spent. However, when I question this, there is an obvious answer... it has become a hobby that can sometimes be fun and I'm totally cool with that. It's like working on old cars or something. (did i just compare a cutting edge phone to a classical car?)

So here is my bottom line:

Either admit that it's a choice you've made or just give up resolving every issue because there is no chance the time you spend in the process will outweigh the occasional inconvenience of a less than perfect device.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] :
@mackaby007

You said you also installed codecs for TCPMP.. where to find these?

What advantages to install PocketMusic when you already have TCPMP?
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xrzxrz:
Hello,

I have a MB525 green lens running on unofficial CM9 (4.0.4) - what steps are necessary to get it working under 4.4?

As I read in the docu I´d have to upgrade to CM 10.2, then flash the bootloader-upgrade, then 11.0 - is this correct?

Best regards, Mauri
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cyrusct82:
Yes.

You could flash CM10,10.1 or 10.2 latest versions. Then update recovery from 4.4 Quarx thread. Reboot enter again in recovery and flash the 4.4 Rom
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] andrewff2:
Remember only to do a full wipe, so it doesn't stuck on boot screen.

If nothing works and phone stop's working just go back to stock sbf (heapened to me)!!
[Defy Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xrzxrz:
Thanks for the replies

My recovery did not allow me to flash 10.2 :(

Now I am stuck at the bootloader with "battery low". The battery does not charge any longer, the recovery does not start :(

Any ideas?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Shadow of Chaos:
About what it says on the tin; Since the new users guide is currently mangled since the mods removed the questionable software links, I'm unsure how to root the thing (Not that I can right now, but I should get it sometime today if UPS will get it's **** together).

Also, two tangents but slightly related; I know we need to backup the TA partition to retain the installed DRM keys, but what exactly do those DRM keys do?

And, I noticed Omni ROM now includes a Build.prop update to their install that fixes the data issues; I've never updated a build before, so just to clairify, all I do is replace the Build.prop in that folder in the .ZIP file, right?
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
- Root tool

- General rooting guide (ignore the vRoot part and use the first link in this post)

- TA tool with guide

DRM keys are used for X-Reality and TrackID etc. so if you unlock your bootloader, you'll lose the DRM keys and you can't get them back. That's why you should back it up in case you want to unlock the bootloader.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] Shadow of Chaos:
Perfect, thanks.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] YrrchSebor:
good post :p

it's funny tho, i never can tell any difference when my bootloader is unlocked. TrackID seems to work still(?, will have to try again sometime to confirm but i could swear i tried it), and i can still enable X-Reality(tho i have never known or seen what it brings, even when i was bone stock haha)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] shaolin95:
You can enable it when unlocked but it wont really work :)
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] LordManhattan:
Yeah, Gracenote (the service that fetches info about your movies/music) should also stop working after unlocking the bootloader, but i'm still using it.
[Sony Xperia Z Ultra] YrrchSebor:
i might just stop relocking, and save myself the factory reset whenever i unlock! unless i want to install an OTA update i guess..

---------- Post added at 09:20 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:17 PM ----------

i don't think i can even tell the difference, maybe i need to look closer lol.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P.R.F.S:
hi

i want update to 4.4 but is there root for 4.4 or not yet? :confused:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guich:
SuperSu 1.80 is compatible with 4.4.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P.R.F.S:
thank for help:good: , can you give me recovery cwm for 4.4 ?:confused:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Guich:
Mate, search it, i'm using the TWRP ;)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BadBroetchen:
For me it only worked with TWRP. Before i tried to flash SuperSU via CWM but then i got message that no SU binaries are installed. Had to flash two times before it worked... but now it´s working.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P.R.F.S:
Ok give me the TWRP please:confused:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SaHiLzZ:
If you dont nkow how to search and get it yourself, you should stop flashing.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] TeHashX:
At least he didn't put the question in dev forum ;p

Download from here http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P.R.F.S:
nkow ? go out please and learn how to write ...:laugh:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] P.R.F.S:
thank you:good:
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BenPope:
Newest is here

http://techerrata.com/browse/twrp2/m7ul