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[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] newspved:
Opera Browser - more details

I have the same problem on Opera beta two when closing with right softkey: Opera isn't visibile any more in settings/memory/running programs list, but still running in background. MemMaid diplays opera.exe in running processes (btw, sometimes MemMaid displays a blank screen instead of running processes and only solution to close opera.exe is soft reset) and can't start it again any more.

Maybe I could set an exception as workaround, but the name of the running program depends on the open web page, am I right?

Furthermore, keeping Opera always open as an exception wouldn't be that nice...

Apart from this, great application!

Thank you!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lewcamino:
It is the new Opera. I have a mem manager and it stayes running when I say close. ah well... thats why its beta. Can you get flash for opera beta? The flash for internet explorer only adds flash to IE.

Later; Lew
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] dddrko:
thank you for this very usefull app. 'cose it so damn good I don't use any other task manager, but I would like "alt-tab" option on other hardware key, and soft-reset, too. anyway, keep on the excellent work.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
i'm so grateful to water for sharing this outstanding light usability enhancement for my wiza100. also, zeboxx has been great in baby-stepping me through creating simple shorcuts so i can fully use the today tray to place app-launch icons. smartskey along with phm traylnch have transformed my user-experience to a more simple hand operated device off of the today screen with simple items like multi-tap softkeys and adding tray resident launches directly to feature/settings like "running programs" and "wireless networks."

here's the phm traylnch thread http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=42913
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] WCS:
IE fullscreen bug?

While running Internet Explorer in full screen at the same time, the two soft buttons would not work properly for picking up an incoming phone call.

Also I was using wifi with IE (fullscreen mode again) while talking on the phone. The machine freezes after touching the slider, but the phone is still working. It did recover after 5-10 minutes.

I did notice that the default behaviour of the slider changes to up/down navigation when running in the full screen mode.

Can you investigate? Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bubism:
Hi, and thanks for the app!

Just a suggestion: what about making the "volume" key sensitive to the length of the pressure? I mean:

- Short pressure = scroll within the page

- Prolonged pressure = scroll page by page

I'm using the scrolling feature for Contacts mostly, and such a feature would be VERY helpful there...

This other one is not a request, but just a note:

When using the "volume" key for scrolling the contacts in Agenda Fusion, the keypresses get cached (ie. the list keeps scrolling after you let the key). I guess it's Agenda Fusion's fault, but who knows...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bredita:
Had problems restoring normal function of volume key after uninstall.

fixed it by re-installing, editing the ini file so that it doesnt control volume key, and that it does not start automatically.

Ran it a few times, made sure that the ini file didn't change, and uninstalled it again

then a soft reset and my volume key worked again.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Bebbo:
OK, I must be the only one here having problems with this app. I AM running v0.4 but every time I run the application it completely clears out the ini file and all my settings are lost....

I have tried re-setting the device, starting smartskey, stopping it etc each time re-writing the ini file but each time it is completely cleared out.

Any suggestions????
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] yusman82:
Water, is there is a way to remap "power off" button?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] MikeK:
Glad to see I'm not the only one that would like to see this. :lol:
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tomsull:
Found a little bug...

I'm using 0.4. I have a pretty full Today Screen that has a scroll bar on the right. The volume key doesn't scroll the Today screen. Can this get fixed so that the Today Screen will also scroll?

Great app, thanks!...Tom
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: Found a little bug...

The program only send pageup/down key press to system. if the program won't handle pageup/down key, it will do nothing.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Sorry, dunno how to map "power off" key....
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
1. Your idea is good. but the hardware is not pressure sensitive.

2. Actually all program cache the repeat key press, but I think the problem it Agenda Fusion draw the screen too slow and don't check events in queue. No way to fix it unless the developer itself improve it.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Good suggestion, I will try to add it in next version.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
It is very strange. Would you try to delete the program from your phone, restart the phone and then reinstall it?

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Okay, I will check it.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] Bebbo:
Done that, still the same problem with the ini file being emptied out. Smartskey runs fine the first time with all settings correct (ie LKEY, RKEY, OMAPCLOCK etc) but as it clears the ini file out it won't run on the next reset.

Can I ask why you are modifying the ini file rather than setting a regsitry entry to determine run status etc. Wouldn't it be simpler to read the ini on each start and keep persisted data in the registry?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] topcaser:
i had the same problems as described. I fixed it by deleting all the stuff and copied it newly to the very same dir. Afterwards i used the built in Total commander editor to edit the files (Maybe you have edited the files on the PC or with Winword?). With this installation i had no problems any more.

Water: Great work. It is the most valued progi on my QTEK. Thanx
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] MeatPopSci:
great app water! not the best solution but making the .ini file read-only solved this for me.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] bubism:
My guess is that there is no need for actual pressure-sensitivity. In fact, it would be possible to check for how many inputs are being cached in a time unit (say, half a second or a second).

If inputs in cache > X then execute a pageup/down scrolling

In other cases just scroll to the next/previous item

I quit programming back in the C-64 days, though, so I might be quite off the mark...
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Yeap, because the ini reader in one of my generic class that I used and it will write back the setting after the program closed. But I forgot the turn the auto write off, so it will write back the setting before v 0.3. But in 0.4, it should not do any write operation... anyway, I will check it again.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Okay, I know what u mean now. I will check if it is possible.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] WCS:
Re: IE fullscreen bug?

Was anyone able to reproduce this problem?

Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] schmierwurst:
Notification Error!

I have a strange problem with a persisting notification error! Every hour and than the system gives me a ‘Notification Error: Cannot execute “\ProgramFiles\Smartkey\smartskey.exe” ‘

I installed version 0.4 and de-installed it; the .exe and the .ini file do not exist anymore. I had a go with MemMaid but can’t find a StartUpProgram or StartUpService which looks like that is relating to the app.

Help, that popup window is quite annoying…
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: Notification Error!

you should able to find it in memmaid, please check it. or you are copy smartskey.exe in the same folder again. run it once and then run it again and quit the program. when the program quit normally, it will remove all notification from the queue.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] schmierwurst:
Re: Notification Error!

installing and re-installing the app did the trick! Cheers!

After the 2nd installation the app showed up in MemMaid but it wasn’t there before hand. Anyway problem fixed!

TA,

Schmierwurst
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] jmbneaf:
Nice work Water.

I like it.

-J
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: IE fullscreen bug?

Hi,

I just tested it. I open IE, in full screen mode. Then I phone to my wizard. the incoming call dialog popup. and I can use the softkey button to "Answer" and "Ignore" without problem.... BTW, I am using the AKU2 rom.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] BennTech:
Lock

First off, water, many thanks and much praise for developing this app. It is by far the most used app on my 8125.

Second, I just finished all 10 pages of posts and found water's mention of tap-and-hold the Comm Mgr to toggle sound/vibrate. Didn't know about that. It's exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for the tidbit.

Third, a request for, IMHO, another missing feature as useful as your Start/Close mapping. Can you map the lock device to a tap-and-hold on the Red phone button? That seems the most logical lock mapping so we can quickly one-hand end a call and lock the device before we stuff it in our geeky hipholster. Otherwise, the only way I know to lock the Wizard is via the Today screen, which means closing what I'm doing to get back to my Today screen and fingernail tapping on a tiny bar (thanks to SmartSKey, the only time I get my stylus out now is for Sudoku). :)

Again, thanks for your time and work on this great app.

--Bennett
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] BennTech:
In my quest for a one-handed PDA, I tried AE Button Plus (http://ae.inc.ru/aebplus.php). It's the only button mapper I found does the soft keys and even the green/red phone buttons.

Unfortunately, AEBPlus can't perform the standard green/red buttons functions, so once it takes control of those buttons, you can't place or hang up a call (yes, for a frantic moment I was repeatly pressing the red button...oh...dang, where's that end button on the screen?). I had other problems getting it to work on my Cingular 8125, but loosing the green/red functions was the real deal breaker for me (that's the only reason I was considering it over SmartSKey).

I asked the developer about remapping the green/red phone buttons, and he responded with this shortly after my above post:

So, maybe the red button mapped to device lock isn't the easiest mapping, but it's still the best IMHO.

Regardless, with SmartSKey installed, the last thing the Wizard is missing is a key mapping to the device lock. I'm not interested in a full blown app like MortSaver, just a call to the standard device lock. Every cell phone I've ever used has this feature. Seems even more important on a PDA, so you don't accidently delete valuable data, e-mail those dirty pictures of yourself to your entire address book, call your spouse while with your lover, etc..

--Bennett
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] WCS:
Re: IE fullscreen bug?

Hi, thanks for checking it out. I am using the new Imate ROM.

Yesterday I was using MSN messenger over wifi while talking, after using the volumn a couple times the machine hang again (not responsive to the buttons and screen froze). It recovered after 10 minutes however.

It does not appear to happen again after I uninstall it... I'll keep trying though and report back.

Thanks, it is a great idea and wonderful app.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] kingpongg:
FYI, I have the same problem on my cingular 8125. I have to edit the ini file on a PC and then transfer it over or it will go down to an empty 2b file when smartskey is launched.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: IE fullscreen bug?

Did the softkey works while the volume key malfunction?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: IE fullscreen bug?

Hi all,

Sorry, found the problem, will fix it in next version.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Hi all,

Just released 0.41. Fix the overwritten ini file bug, and add a new features. Remember the ini file must be in "Unicode" format, the program will not read if the ini file is in ASCII format.

Please download it in first post.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] SkyFH:
Very strange to me.

I unzipped the file to folder main memory\program files\smartskey. When i click it, smartskey works. But no matter how i change CLOSEAPP to 0 or 1, it always minimizes app, not close, even I reboot after each ini change. Samething for volume slider, it is always page up/down now no matter I set VOLKEY to 0.

Really confused.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
make sure that the file is save as unicode. I suggest to use notepad to edit it and use the ini in the zip as a template.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] SkyFH:
Thanks. I used laptop notepad to edit the ini file and sent it to 838. Now it completely works well.

You are the man!
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] tomsull:
Found a bug when you terminate in V0.40

This is in v0.4...I'll try .41 later.

If you terminate smartskey, it doesn't reset the buttons. When I press the left and right option keys under the screen, they do nothing after I terminate it. Can you reset those when smartskey exits?

Thanks again for this great little app!...Tom
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mvbashyam:
I am not able to see any link to download version 0.41. Can someone provide the link please?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: Found a bug when you terminate in V0.40

Currently no way to reset to previous state, please soft reset the pda.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iamhives:
You need to be logged in to the XDA site to see the download link
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] hkultraman:
Thanks water,

The 0.41 is close to perfect.

I have one more suggestion. I would like to know is it ok to map the "hold action key" to something. This is actually like the program "xbar" in smartphone. Whenever I hold the ACTION key, it will bring out the "Running Task" and let me to switch betweeen program. This will be like the Alt-Tab in desktop.

Attached please find my "alt-tab" on PPC.

Thanks.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
If action key means the center button of navigation buttons. Mostly it is used for popping up context menu.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] greg3d:
Close doesn't close some apps

As already mentioned, the Opera Beta remains memory resident when closed.

I just found another app that does this called TimeTotal. When closed with the OK press and hold button, the app looks like it closes, shows no signs in the running tasks list, but is still active in memory.

Trying to run the app again has no effect, and eventually produces a system error.

Also, for some reason adding this app to the exclusion list in the .ini file has no effect.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Re: Close doesn't close some apps

Okay, I will try to fix it.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iamhives:
Looks good. One minor thing that I suspect is my setup rather than Smarkey. When I use the volume slider to scroll in "Programs' it always jumps 4 rows making if difficult/impossible to select the row required. Is this a setup/registry setting for numer of rows scrowled overall that causes this? If so where do i change it?

Also, is this my imagination but when i close Internet Explorer with Smartkeys sometimes when i go back to Internet Explorer it hangs trying to locate or connect. This is the only pattern of have managed to identify in this problem - off course IE isn't so stable so may not be Smartkeys at all
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] mojomahem:
I agree to be able setup/registry setting for numer of rows scrowled overall vs just 4 at a time would be awesome.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
The program only send pageup/down event, and the program itself handle how many row in advance. Normally it will advance one page. So cannot customize it.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] iamhives:
Not sure if I'm explaining this right. I'm talking about in the Start menu dropdown. Paging 4 at a time essentially makes the new feature not that useful.

Still the most useful utility out there... Thanks
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] sunshine:
Tray problem with Smartskey

Love smartskey,

only 1 problem. When I close an app using the right softkey (real close) and reopen the app the tray icon has moved 1 spot to the left. Repeating this, will keep the tray icon from moving leftwards...

Got an I-mate and working on the new ROM.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] dddrko:
sorry, forget to insert text :?

I think it's OK (xbar runs on PPC as well), but please tell me how to map it on ation key?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] milton129:
BennTech:

I've been testing AEBPlus on a UTStarcom 6700 (HTC Apache) for a little while now and find that, for the most part, it works quite well. Try mapping the Red Phone Button to the appliciation VJOKButt (with the "-phone" extension) to retain phone hang-up functionality, but also use it to close programs. You can then map, say, a double-tap or long-hold of the red phone button to Device Lock, or any other functions/applications. I have not yet tried to map the Green Phone Button to anything, and I can see how that might cause problems with the phone application.

There is, however, a bug I've found that causes the phone to lose service and the phone application to stop working after a soft-reset if the Red Phone Button has been mapped by AEBPlus. I believe this is caused by the fact that AEBPlus takes over the phone button before the phone has a chance to initialize. The workaround for this is to unmap the Red Phone Button before soft resetting, and then remap it again after the soft reset; if that is not possible, then unmap it after the soft reset, soft reset again, and then remap it. I've been in touch with the developer and he will likely add a startup delay to the loading of AEBPlus which hopefully will solve this problem.

I've found AEBPlus to be a pretty good progam. Still a work in progress, but the developer seems to be very helpful and responsive. I'm still "on the fence" as to whether or not to commit to Smartsskey or AEBPlus, although I'm leaning towards the latter simply because it offers so many other button mapping options.

Still Smartskey is a very nice utility :)

-Michael
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] andonevris:
I'm getting this problem too. A fix would be very nice indeed :)

As others have said, many thanks for a superb little app. Couldn't live without it now.

Top man
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
you have the option to add "alt-tab" to today tray if you like. it's not the straight forward solution you request but it's an option too. i have a today tray launch for the oem "running programs" settings tab and it gets the job done ok. here is the thread on "phm traylnch" http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=42913
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
Re: Tray problem with Smartskey

a bit off topic (please excuse me)...

do running programs show an icon in your today tray? i have not seen that with my cingular 8125. since i started using microsoft's powertoy "remote desktop" (see http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=43814), i do see its icon reside in today tray when active. the one most left below...

do you have all your active programs identifying themselves in your today tray if they are active? i'd like it if mine did the same
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lpasq:
i'm so NOOB! it's taken me this long to realize i too left the ";" in front of "removedupsddaemon".

btw: does "checknotifications" remove duplicates when running the settings option for it do so? mine gets hung up and does not. however, i can delete them one-by-one.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
it should delete dupliated event, but I haven't try to have 70 duplicated events in the queue... :shock:

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
The OS seems won't send wkeup event for quick power off and on. You know the notification queue of wince is not so reliable... but generally, it should keep the cpu speed of your phone.

water
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] i3onk:
OK Folks I have a major problem. I just installed aebplus on my MDA to do some button customization with my device. There was an error writing to a file when I saved the remappings. I did a soft reset. My phone will not power all the way up to the today screen. It stay locked up at the tmobile screen and i cant get it to go any further than that. Is there anyways to to a hard restart without getting the device to turn all the way on? what can I do to get this this reset to default factory settings again so I can start over?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
hold the left (Comm Manager) and right (voice dial) buttons and then reset. a message prompt and press the center of the nav buttons to confirm.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] lewcamino:
Not to step on your toes but I think you press the send (green call button) to confirm, but both may work.

Later; Lew
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] i3onk:
well I did that and so far it has only come up with (from top to bottom) a fat red section green section blue section then white section. Noting else has happened
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] i3onk:
OK my prob was I let go of the buttons. Holding the buttons after reboot gave me the reset message. Cross your fingers that it works. God I hope so, dont know if this will be covered under the insurance. Guess I can always step on it and tell them woops lol
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] i3onk:
OK it worked. Thank you sooo much. I was affraid I just had an expensive ass paperweight now :s
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
If you can goes to the red/blue/green screen. The worst case is reflashing the rom.
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] KinkyGolab:
hello i haw installd smartskeyin the folowing plase

\Program Files\smartskey\smartskey.exe and plaist omapclock.exe in the same folder and my .ini has the folowing

[MAIN]

; set LSKEY to 1 if you want to override Left Soft Key (DEFAULT 1)

LSKEY=1

; set RSKEY to 1 if you want to override Right Soft Key (DEFAULT 1)

RSKEY=1

; set VOLKEY to 1 if you want to override Volume Key (DEFAULT 1)

VOLKEY=1

; set CLOSEAPP to 1 if you want to close app instead of hide (DEFAULT 0)

CLOSEAPP=1

; set STARTONREBOOT=1 to 1 if you the program to be start automatically during

; reboot, use with RSKEY (DEFAULT 0)

STARTONREBOOT=1

; set VOLUMEONPHONE=1 if you want to set volume using volume key in phone app

; use with VOLKEY (DEFAULT 0)

VOLUMEONPHONE=1

; use with lskey, rskey (DEFAULT 1)

PAGEONEXPLORE=1

; set OMAPCLOCK to the clock if you want to use omapclock and automatically

; set the clock speed after wakeup, you should put OmapClock.exe in the same

; directory of smartskey.exe

OMAPCLOCK=252

;REMOVEDUPSDDAEMON=0

;STARTMENUMETHOD=0

; if you set CLOSEAPP to 1, the program will hide the following

; apps (by title) instead of closing. Other apps will be closed.

; maximum can set 16 apps

[EXCEPTIONLIST]

APP00=Text Messages

APP01=Outlook E-mail

APP02=Hotmail

APP04=MMS

APP05=Contacts

APP06=Calendar

my problem is when i restart my 9100 the dount start on auto i ned to start smartskey.exe by hand, and when i phus power buton and start it agen it dount start my omapclock.exe at al, can eney bodey se my .ini and explain what im doing wrong

im using i-mate whit phus mail

Rom 2.16.9.1 wwe

rom date 2/6/06

Radio Ver 02.07.10

Protocol Ver 413.1.03
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario General] water:
Make sure that the ini is stored in unicode, not ascii. I suggest u to use notepad to edit the template come with the program.

water