yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Conchas:
Don't believe it will happen shortly :?

Otherwise, something should have already been leaked by now...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ratclj01:
correct me if I am wrong, but I thought AKU 2.0 is the bluetooth bit and Push is totally seperate

???????
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] khaledelfeki:
Pocketpcdubai,

I hope that the new rom will include a software to enable Jabra BT800 to show the name of the caller instead of the caller number.

Regards,

Khaled
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Conchas:
Also do I. To much...

But nobody commented about that yet. Even the ones who are beta testing the new ROMs. :cry:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Pocketpcdubai:
I wouldn't keep my hopes high on this aspect ;) Do check i-mate's RU's page tomorrow :)

Edit: Might be released on 27th feb now.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] creamhackered:
I am currently running an iMate test ROM on my C600. Seems to be working well. 25th is what iMate originally said but I have heard the SP5/m will go out on 27th. There still could be ROMs going out tomorrow as they said they're concerned for load balancing...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Conchas:
And Qtek9000?

Does somebody knows about Qtek planned dates to releas their ROMs?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Well - I hate waiting for the AKU blah blah so I tested German T Mobile ROM (with AKU1.1)

Bad news - Both my cars dont pick up CID or directory. AUDI worked with basic audio transfer to the speakers - and that still works. No improvement - cant dial or hangup - only basic audio transfer (that too 50% of the time)

That answers the question asked by somebody - if Jabra will pick up CID from Universal.

I think no - there is not much change in BT stack from 1.1 to 2.0.

So no luck for all of us on BT improvement.

I will still wait for iMate to post the rom - who knows they will do some magic which brings this $1200 to atleast functional equivalent of a cheapo Siemens $50 phone.

Too much to ask I think....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] rene01:
I would like to now about Qtek 9000 Rom too.

Qtek isn't that fast normally.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Pocketpcdubai:
Although it has been brought to HTC's attention, the change in the BT stack to support proper CID (including name) has to be made by MS. From what i have been told, it is on the cards and will probably be fixed in the future updates. Also, newer devices supporting Crossbow will have this support natively.

PPCD.

PS. Nitin, you from Dubai? (I concur with your sig btw ;) )
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Yup - from Dubai

PocketPCDubai - if you run this site - well - good effort.

I have had bad luck from all the PDA phones I ever had - that includes Nokia 9500, SEP900, now this Universal.

My BMW came with Siemens C50 (I think) which is available in Carrefour for 210dhms. I probed it with BTCrawler - It has 11services for BT (including SAP, OBEX etc). Works PERFECT with AUDI, BMW, VW and one Parrot. Universal has only 2 - AG, DUN. The AG service drops the call within 2 sec in the BMW and fails to transfer audio in Audi in 50% of cases. Works fine with Parrot if headset is used.

I drive a lot in Dubai traffic - I NEED these things to work. None of my cars (I dont drive Japanese tin cans - including Lexus) have upgradeble BT (like parrot etc).

I think I will throw this MS $hit and go back to treo - which is supposed to wrk with my Audi atleast.

Its Damn Etisalat btw - havent got round to edit the spelling.

Everytime I will pass JAFZA - I will add damn Imate for all the dropped calls (well - a lot of dropped calls are Etisalat bad software for handling between cells - so cant damn Imate all the time)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Pocketpcdubai:
Thank you, and yes, i am the editor of Pocketpcdubai :)

Etisalat does have it share of issues, but hopefully with the entry of Tecom (Du), things will change ;)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Conchas:
Hi, sorry...

Can you explain what Crossbow is? Searched for it at internet, but got no conclusion about.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Daimaou:
Just buy a descent car like everybody and it will work, or do you just want to show off? Coz in my Continental GT it works flawlessly
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Dbl post - removed - Nitin
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Come to Dubai - and you will see - i drive "ordinary" cars. An A6 and X5 is "middle range" car here.

Edited the hate comment

And they have very tightly integrated electronics - I am able to hack a few stuff (like navigation sw) etc - but bluetooth is off limits.

BTW - audi uses QNX - anybody know how to take the image off the system (its most system - unable to get into it till now)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Deleted the triple post - browser hung..
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Daimaou:
By respect to other people who cannot afford "German Car" but only tin can from Japan and USA (That will be a nice discussion Next week whit Toyota folks for the Test Driver of the GS450h) you should maybe tempar your "writting" and consider yourself a lucky man to be able to afford such cars and to not offend Tin Car owners.

Now as for Budai, well guess where I went to buy my Arabic JasJar ?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Edited - Nitin

And that reminds me - does the Universal works perfect with a Lexus? I love the touchscreen(huge 8") screen. Can you call using the screen of lexus from a universal? If not - then go figure - we have been sold a half baked product.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Daimaou:
I am not going to discuss car "quality" here for several reasons

1) We are on a Pocket PC Forum and not a Car one

2) You should not use words or comment which can offend people, Car is not a Cheap product and remember that in this forum there may have some people who may not afford a car at all or maybe a cheap / 2nd hand one, your comment was purely rude to them

3) Don't talk to me about "cars" coz one of my "job" is to test cars for one of my "Web" magazine. I may have drive stuff that you cannot even imagine in your wildest dream

This sterile conversation (which didn’t bring anything to the Pocket PC community) is now over for me and I really hope that you will find a solution to your problem.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Edited becasue people found it offensive-Nitin

Lets come back to the point - will AKU2.0 or 2.2 will add SAP (so that we are able to dial from the car - without looking at phone)

and importantly - will it allow to make and hangup call (that is within basic BT specs - basic Handsfree profile)

Iremember reading in a blog (or maybe theunwired.net) that MS had listened to and added compatibilty to BM

Will the beta testers here (buzz etc) give us some inside info? If the release is AKU1.1 or 2.0 or 2.2? And will it have SAP etc.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] monakh:
I am gonna have to jump in here

I agree with Daimaou that we need to keep the car-talk to a minimum, unless it pertains to mobile (and particularly PPC) technology specifically. By the way, nitin, I drove a high end Mercedes for several years and I don't agree with you. However, you are welcome to your opinion but please don't shove it down our throats.

This is a community that strives to help people. We need to maintain this communal spirit of cooperation and not dampen it with judgemental bias. With respect, there is serious bias in your posts, and you come across as arrogant. That may not be your intent, but that's what it came across as.

So let's just stick to the job of helping people, shall we?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] simon_darley:
edited following nitins retraction.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] simon_darley:
double post
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] simon_darley:
triple post (blush) my anger got the better of me and pressed submit to often

need to go n calm down and erase nitin from my memory
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] monakh:
Dang, Simon. Chillax, mate. :) I do understand your anger though...

Yeah, I think nitin gave serious offence without perhaps meaning to do so. Using words like 'japs' doesn't help either. That is a derogatory term I have not heard since a bully used it in high school and had to sit in detention for about 6 hours for a week for that. Haha, I still remember that.

Anyway, folks, please relax. We are here to help and not agitate each other.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Well - I didnot mean to offend anybody.

I have edited all above posts

By Japs - I meant cars - It was not racial at all - and in this world where cars are made all around the world - these comments stand the way I meant (remember how many Jap cars are made in Europe/Aus)

Ok - This is not a car forum - so - can somebody answer my question -

Will the new Rom support -

1) Lots of BT profiles - like SAP, proper AG

2) A2DP

3) If Uni works with Lexus and at what level (basic or directory is also transferred)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] rikram:
rom update news

this is 26 any news of rom update as planned on 25
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] dah54:
Re: rom update news

It never happen. Don't plan on seeing one before the end of march or perhaps very late in march.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] jamps:
good news all round! :roll:

we never learn do we...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ratclj01:
Again I shall say listen to the MSmobiles interview and you will clearly here Jim giving a release date if the 25th Feb and not the 23rd.

Why do MSMobiles keep giving the wrong information out and why have the cut and paste this article from others on the net

But its good news about the 27th if its true.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] q-biq:
Nothing new?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ady:
there isn't any new jasjar rom at imate site so I think not.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] tintoy:
Is anyone surprised that imate have failed to deliver?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Imate is all about show business - all hoo haa, promises and nothing but promises.

Nobody is surprised - they wanted cheap publicity - they got it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] moghisi101:
Hey

I'd wait untill the end of the day before jumping to conclusions. Also, they said they'd start releasing AKU2 today and not necessarily a Jasjar update. A KJam update, etc may come before the Jasjar one. Let's hope they release something today, at least!

Cya
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] hizad:
I think one has to wait till mid March
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] simon_darley:
in oz, its now the end of the 27th (well 3.5 hours to go), and nothing.

So far as I know, the Universal was the first device released with WM5 and also the most expensive, so one would expect that it would be updated first

wishful think maybe, but fairs fair!!!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Churchill:
You can not judge according to OZ time zone. When M$ releases theis monthly updates they also show up only when the day breaks in the US
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
Ok - Its officially 4pm here in Dubai. Employees of Imate will start leaving the office now.

Anybody wants to sponsor me to hit Jim Morrison with a pie when he comes out of the office?
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] khaledelfeki:
I'm not surprised, I had the same experience with them when I was having PDA2K, they promised on the web page that they are going to release a new rom on May, and it was not released until August 2005 when I sold my PDA2K and bought the JasJar.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] sub69:
Not at all. We all know better around here, don't we?

I'm actually not too bothered about a ROM update, all I want is to get my Stereo Bluetooth headset working...just a little patch would do! :(
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] cktlcmd:
Same here, I usually expect them to release the new ROM 2 to 3 months after their announcement. For some reason, they want to jump the gun and give us false hope. It might be another marketing ploy in their part.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
23rd came and went

25th came and went

27th came and went (well, almost)

We will never learn.

Msmobiles has been reduced to a gossip site - they need to post the updates to get the hits.

imate got the cheap publicity it wanted.

Now, will please people who are Beta testing comment (if their NDA is over) if

a) BT is proper with more profiles(and the problem of BT switching off randomly has been rectified)

b) The delay in ringing has been improved?

Expecting answers.....

We just want this phone to atleast give functinality of a $50 Siemens or Nokia.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] hdubli:
similar questions were asked by me to Buzz and to our misfortune answer is negative to yr questions above.so I hv sold off my JASJAR and using Wizard till we get a proper upgrade.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Churchill:
You are all probably right I am afraid....

I was naive enough to beleive that i-mate would actually keep their word.

And MSMobiles is a crap site
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] exchguy:
I hope we see something by the end of the week or maybe sometime in mid-March. I thought by the end of Feb was a little optimistic.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] tailazoom:
Two unsolved problems: one is generic and one is specific. No one has a Universal that does not turn bluetooth off. Some Universal do not signal at first ring of incoming calls. I already own a BT headset, and a good & expensive one, but i can do without it most of the time. It tworks for the time i need it, when driving. So i have no problems with my Jasjar and nothing to stay awake for.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] tintoy:
It'll teach us to be early adoptors (universal being the first WM5 pda phone device etc etc). My wizard, however, (a much more refined device imho) continues to impress me every day!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
I have much expensive BT headset that yours - my car!!! - and my universal fails to work properly - It works 50% of time - which is worse than not working at all.

Somebody else on this thread had mentioned that his car wrked fine - was it built in by the manuf or an aftermarket one? Aftermarket ones (like parrot) support headset profile which is very easy. What we are looking for is handsfree profile(and ofcourse Sim Access profile)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ady:
I primarily use my o2 exec for songs and calls and there aren't any stereo headset available where I live so I don't care much. however I do use email, a lot and looking forward to bug fixes as well as push email in this update...

nitin: we all know that it doesn't work with your expensive non japanese car mate... hope they do take care of it
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ncruz:
My universal doesn't turn bluetooth off.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] sub69:
Not sure that my Bluetooth turns itself off either, it certainly stays on all through the night (about 5 or 6 hours) and is still on when I get up. And I haven't noticed it turning off during the day, but then I'm permanently fiddling with the thing....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] simon_darley:
I have never noticed my blue tooth turning off.

i know oz timeframes are ahead of everybody else but 28th in my zone has come and gone, nuffin

i was on the O2 XDAII and was disappointed with their upgrade system so purposely chose the imate route hoping support and upgrades would be more efficient....

alas, one can die waiting for these buggers

your right, why should they announce it and not do it, better to announce much later

also, I thought PocketPCDubai posted indicating that this would happen, and he appeared to have the inside GOS? maybe not, perhaps another mole planted by imate into the xda system to propogate lies and propoganda for the benefit of imate....
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Pocketpcdubai:
Simon,

Watching too many spy flicks lately? :)

Well, we don't have any officialy linkage with i-mate. We are just a regular PocketPC enthusiast site like a host of others on the internet. Thats all there is to it.

As for the RU, the RU has been finalised and is under testing and is due for release any time now. I can quote dates that have been mentioned to me but i can't really vouch for them. By the end of the 1st week of March is what has been told to me, but i wouldn't keep my hopes high on that considering i-mate's track record.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] bn632189:
On another page in our forums - http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?p=236981#236981 - thrawn99 had a online support chat with imate and they said "the end of the quarter" :( Thats 4 weeks! :shock:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] simon_darley:
:)

jk pocketpcdubai

i was merely trying to prompt a response and feedback from you as I knew you were monitoring and watching the forum

dont take it personal, just wanted to attract your attention

i figured you were probably one of the closest to the source

i check their website several times a day hoping to catch the initial response

appreciate the prompt feedback

cheers

S.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] monakh:
Ady

Are you using your Exec on Mobilink or Ufone in Pak? How is the service? Seems to me to be an awful waste given there's practically no focus on data connectivity.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ady:
monakh: I used UFONE's GPRS for quite a long period on p800->p900->pda2k and now o2 exec. however recently my data throughput has been increased significantly since it's extremely tempting to do regular browsing on VGA screen of exec as compared to QVGA of pda2k so I've switched to Mobilink since they are the only one providing unlimited data service.

Yet to test it due to their stupid system. They keep on saying that they can't turn on the GPRS until my info in their system is updated.

The experience on ufone was okay if not too good however the data rates were pain in the ass. Also their latency/ping time is significantly high which makes using many chat applications almost impossible.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] khaledelfeki:
Mine does not turn blue tooth off too, I think this problem is being experienced with other brands of Universal but not with I-mate JasJar.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] Pocketpcdubai:
None taken Simon :)

Some bad news, the RU has been delayed further. MIGHT take more time than anticipated.

Sorry.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] nitin:
I have Imate - bought from Plugins Dubai - It turns bluetooth off randomly. But almost all the times (other than switching BT off) - It declicks the Handsfree profile.

Then, If I recv the call or make a call through that profile, it fails to tarnsfer audio - but call is connected(resulting in blank call)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ncruz:
I keep bluetooth always on and NEVER but NEVER had to restart it again, even after a week without any soft reset it keeps on and working just fine.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] decebal:
Qtek AKU2

Howdy everyone.

I got some news that we'll get the Qtek AKU2 ROM middle/end of march.

I hope they will release it before Imate and this way I'll waste none of my time even trying it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] monakh:
Ahh that confirms everything I have heard so far about ufone. I think the ufone network is saturated. They have done nothing to upgrade it. You can have 3G speeds, but if the backend connectivity sucks, you will still be stuck with 9.6Kbps thorughput. I wonder how Mobilink will do, do let us know when you are finally able to get on.

For the record, I hate both carriers, although I have been a PostPaid customer of Mobilink for almost ten years. I only tried GPRS on ufone with my Jam, but never tried anything else. Exchange synch was fine.

Back on Topic: PPCDubai--tell us something we don't know man! I knew when I heard the words 'end of the quarter', we were doomed. That's fine. It means it will take other carriers just as long to implement the changes coming from MS. O2 sure hasn't done squat in the past few months.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ratclj01:
Whats your source of this information? Or is it simply gossip.

I have noted a few of you quotes about release and non of them appear to correct so far, its either gossip or your source is just having a laugh with you
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] sub69:
Everyone, the best thing to do is make your own (preferably pessimistic) judgement about what will appear and ignore rumours and heresay. It's fair enough to make guesses based on passed experience though...

i-mate support have told me that the new ROM will be available in Q1 2006, and will not include A2DP. Based on the fact that i-mate generally seems to be staffed by a group of cretinous imbeciles, it's hard to tell whether this is accurate or not, but judging on past performance it sounds pretty feasible.

Anyway, I certainly won't be holding my breath in anticipation of a time when my Bluetooth headphones become usable....if we have to wait for another ROM upgrade, that'll be a while off, if we just need a Magician-style patch, then maybe sooner, but as a hopelessly pessimistic soul myself, I'm guessing it'll be months before the good news that I'm waiting for... :(

(Maybe Q-Tek or Dopod can do better though?!)
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] tailazoom:
Universal is for phone calls, sms and e-mail and that's all. Forget bluetooth: unrelayable, without services, power hungry. Forget multimedia: poor battery. Just an umts phone with a nice screen and a nice keyboard: the best of its kind.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] ady:
not to be bitter but perhaps you guys should experience the support of other phone makers...

I used to have a P900 a couple devices back in which the SSL library was broken so I couldn't access GMAIL POP3 through built in client on it. SE knew about it for years but they never bothered to fix it. In fact I never go a single update as long as I kept it and even if there was a update then it was through a service center and was paid.

Considering the complexity of these devices, I wouldn't blame imate or MS too much. Atleast they ARE providing constant updates unlike other device vendors and don't gimme bs about how functional xyz device from abc company is cause I've used almost 20 different devices in 9 years out of which 7 were smartphones/PDAs from motorola, siemens, ericsson, sony, samsung and now HTC/Microsoft and none of them offered as much useable functionality as Universal...
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro Software Upgrading] decebal:
Actually I'm considering it as a nice all around device with 24h of juice for reading ebooks, listening mp3, video call, GPS navigation, contacts, appointments, emails, rss .... and some gaming here and then.

I'm still waiting for push email and A2DP.