yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[G Pad 8.3 General] Poke_N_PDA:
He also posted a new build after that since he forgot to include Loki. Now I'm we could just wait for the original poster to try it again, but I doubt he minds me picking it up and posting before then. ;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
New build is up but same issues...
[G Pad 8.3 General] nessuno1234:
sorry guys but my english is very bad. i havent understood if is possible to convert a simple v500 into a v510 version?

the google edition loses any important feature? thanks
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Not yet.

Define important feature. If IR Blaster isn't important so no
[G Pad 8.3 General] nessuno1234:
like knock on for example. i alway have had samsung devices with the botton on the front to wake up the phone. i find very annoying to use the side key.

Or the otg function. i heard obout the issue of writing on the sd card too
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
KnockON works, I think OTG works but can't confirm
[G Pad 8.3 General] nessuno1234:
okay, thanks. and what about the sd issue. I want to use it as storage space for torent programs. is that possible?
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
I didn't received my SD card yet so I can't confirm but I think it works
[G Pad 8.3 General] MylleZ:
Are you already using the GPE ROM on the V500?!
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Whoops, sorry. I am posting on two threads these days, this one and CM 11, And i got confused. Not sure if KnockON works. Sorry.
[G Pad 8.3 General] icehust:
I've read all the posts in this thread, and I'm wondering whether to buy Nexus 7 (2013) or G Pad 8.3 now..

It'll be upset if the v500 can't be converted into GPE version:(
[G Pad 8.3 General] joshuadjohnson22:
I think it is worth it... there is a huge size difference. If you want a smaller screen and more portable go for the 7 but if you want a 8.3 inch (perfect size imo) go with the 8.3. If GPE is a big deal for you why not buy the GPE it is only around 50 more...
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Yep, 8.3 is way better than 7
[G Pad 8.3 General] icehust:
Google has been unavailable in China for a long time, since early 2010.

Well, I definitely know to how purchase a the GPE version from US Google Play and transport it to China, but it'll take a long time and the customs is pretty unfriendly in the city I'm living - you can never imagine there are still extra fees must be paid even its duty have been charged already.

OK I decide to purchase a Android pad to make some help on learning GRE at home (HTC One is too small to watch) and wish I could escape this terrible country as soon as possible.

Anyway, thanks for your advice, so I ordered a v500 in an online store which sold LG devices officially. Thank goodness its hardware is the same the international version. Software is not a big problem.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
How's it like living In china? Sounds terrible.

BTW, it's funny that when you order something from the us it ships from china to the US and then back to you :P
[G Pad 8.3 General] icehust:
I deeply appreciate you concern, but I don't mean to go far afield from this original topic. If you are interested in the life in China, I could pm you my Google hangout account so we could make some further discussions at any time, any where.

Back to the subject, I'm willing to share my ideas as a user later.
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
Are you able to better translate the conervsion here. Seems unsuccessful?

http://www.lgbbs.com/thread-6230-1-1.html
[G Pad 8.3 General] icehust:
I read all the posts in the thread you mentioned, and there was someone whose test showed it still didn't work.

At the second page, user "pg999" said he couldn't finish the flashing process and the error code is "different device". So the user "admin" who posted the original thread thought that was because they were not the same hardware ID. The "admin" also warned users of that forum if any user who dared to leak the attachments to anyone else outside, his/her ID would definitely been banned forever. LOL.
[G Pad 8.3 General] meletios:
LG G Pad

I recently purchased LG G Pad V500 as well in UK as the GPE edition is not sold here.

'was also looking at Nexus 7 but got this as Nexus 7 screen is a bit smaller for me and has big bezel on the top and bottom.

(plus I got it cheaper than 16gb nexus 7 2013 and this has a sd card)..so overall very happy with this.

The device itself is not big for the screen size.

I dont intend to do any intensive work on this, mainly reading, mails/news etc.

Hope this helps.

:good:
[G Pad 8.3 General] icehust:
Thanks for sharing your experience, and I've purchased v500 online. It'll be delivered this noon. As many users have complained, sounds like its light leaking at the bottom of the screen (on where the virtual buttons lie) was common. So it's better to check this first after unpacking.

XDA is awesome. It always keep users well-informed. Of course, without these cool developers, many users like me could do nothing but wait for the usually deferred updates from manufacturers. Also I'm glad to be a ROM tester.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Poke_N_PDA:
Man, after some really promising developments, it's all quite on the western front. Anything happening here?

I have to say when I bought this I was hoping the developers would have an easy time making this happen. It's disappointing this thing has been such a pain. Fortunatly, [MENTION=5613499]evleaks[/MENTION] is saying the next nexus will be an 8 incher. Since I bought this thing for the screen size, I'll be happy to switch.
[G Pad 8.3 General] andyliddle:
Hi, I've been keeping an eye on this thread.

I have v500, as the v510 GPE isn't available in the UK. In the end I have decided to flash it with cm11 rom. Have to say I couldn't be more happier.

Didn't get on with the stock LG rom, as the UI elements really annoyed me lol.
[G Pad 8.3 General] ralph78:
Is the battery life any better on CM than stock? Did you try to enable ART yet?

Sent from LG G Pad
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
ART works fine for me, unless you are Xposed user.
[G Pad 8.3 General] ralph78:
Do you see any difference in smoothness compared to dalvik? I use ART on my nexus 5 and I'm delighted. Just wondering now if it's the same case for LG G Pad.

Sent from LG G Pad
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
A lot of things seems smoother, apps open speed feels quicker, and in general better. There is one or maybe two apps that seem to take issue to it(they work but will random exit where they never did on dalvik), but with ART in a development state as it is I don't think too much of it.
[G Pad 8.3 General] thesteef66:
hi there guys,

i'm thinking of buying this tablet. I would love stock android on it, but i can't get a google play version in my country. So is the V500 with cm11 about the same experience as the google play version? is it as smooth and fast?
[G Pad 8.3 General] sleekmason:
I have the gpe and[MENTION=4906350]whoamigriffiths[/MENTION] posted antutu scores equal to my best scores using madhi Rom with the Dyn kernel. Don't know about cyanogenmod. Guess it depends on how much tweaking you want to do. I bet his is optimized as far as you can go;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] joshuadjohnson22:
I've never had the GPE edition but I will say that the pure android rom for the V500 are pretty darn good. Smooth, fast, stable... works great. I'm weird and I like the LG stock Rom... for now at least
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
You are also comparing an odexd build to a deodexd build, there is always a performance drop from that
[G Pad 8.3 General] crashDebug:
you should also note that some bonus features from the original ROM will not work. The IR blaster, for one. It's there in both the v500 and the v510 rom, but it's a nogo in all AOSP based ROMs for the v500.
[G Pad 8.3 General] ASW1:
Are you sure about that, I thought only v500/LGE ?
[G Pad 8.3 General] crashDebug:
say 90% sure, as in: i read it here somewhere but I can't remember where. The IR blaster is a feature I care a lot about so I researched thoroughly.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
People still trying to convert? LOL I may know a way but it requires a sacrificial G Pad v500. I came across a modified LG DLL file that you use when you restore to stock that disables the device check. So in theory if you use flashtool to flash the v510 restore file on v500 it should setup the partition table correctly since it is different on on the v500 and v510
[G Pad 8.3 General] slowdyve:
There are other devices with 2 versions. Were the other developers successful turning the normal version in google play edition? I did a quick search and at least with S4 they were successful.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
Because it was a simple ROM dump on the S4...
[G Pad 8.3 General] MylleZ:
And on the HTC one?

It also has a GE ROM.

Cheers
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
Look I have seen a few pages of really dumb stuff that had already been discussed. The short answer is it isn't as simple as it was for the other play edition devices, if it was that simple it would already be done, so you can talk about how every other device was a super easy port, or you can accept that this is a different scenario entirely.

Either way talking about it means nothing, either fix it, or shut up about it
[G Pad 8.3 General] crashDebug:
that's interesting but still it wouldn't have wifi working since they use different chips, right? (btw, [MENTION=4218641]AndroidUser00110001[/MENTION], as an owner of a v510, can you confirm whether it has the IR blaster working or not?)
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
I believe it has the or blaster but just not working. WiFi may work. I did an adb pull to get system dump when I got my v510 and then made ROM and flashed it back. WiFi did not work, just like when we tried to get the v510 ROM on v500. Since I had device in hand I saw what was missing from the pull and even system.IMG dump and got wifi working on the flushable ROM. If I had v500 in hand too I might be able to figure out why the v500 has issues with the GPE ROM. I see what may work with modifying the kernel and posted what needs to be changed if another hacker wants to take a shot at it but I am not going to attempt to hack something onto a device I do not have in hand any more. It's just a big pain in ass and too much time gets wasted.
[G Pad 8.3 General] crashDebug:
I see your point and understand completely. I was wrong about the IR blaster then, it seems they went down the gs4 / htc one route. This is ridiculous though. I mean, I love the "pure android" google experience and all, but disabling sensors and simply letting perfectly functioning hardware sleep just for the sake of exclusivity is as dumb as GPE can get.
[G Pad 8.3 General] gunnyman:
It's in LG's hands for not open sourcing the IR stack and drivers.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Demetris:
I have figured out what was missing :)

We need to flash the "persist" partition for WiFi to function. ;)

And for a true convert to GPE we also need the bootloader to be unlocked or else is not doable afaik
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
So we can't convert it into a total GPE, but can we make it fill the same? A GPE ROM I mean. Can you fix AndroidUser's one?
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2571762

New test build...please leave feedback in ROM thread. If it does not work please give as much info as you can besides it does not work. I no longer have v500 to test with.
[G Pad 8.3 General] aicjofs:
Where did you come across this? using a 510.dll it wants you to be online, and 500.dll tells you the mismatch with the tot. If this version is what you say someone could at least get farther then anyone ever has before. If you got by the error it doesn't automatically start flashing, it would then be a matter of pressing the "go" button.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
I got it when I flashed some D802 software on my phone and could not restore to stock D800. A user sent it to me. If you want to try go to the LG G2 AT&T Dev section, look for my poweruser ROM and the dll download is there...
[G Pad 8.3 General] mactron:
Lets do it! My v500 is somehow suicidal. :eek: Could you please exactly tell me what to do, since I'm very busy at the moment and have no time to search for everything.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
I am on Tapatalk so pain in ass to find links. Download the tot file in the first post of this thread. Then find my power user ROM thread in LG G2 AT&T Dev section. Download the DLL from there. Find a guide to restore to stock and use the DLL you downloaded with the tot. There is a guide in the general section. If you totally screw up your tablet you might be able to restore with dd
[G Pad 8.3 General] gunnyman:
I'm one of the Weirdos who wants to convert my GPE to lg stock. Possible with this trickery?
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Of course it's possible, you have an unlocked bootloader. The only problem is no developer thinks about doing it because almost nobody wants that. I think the best option for you is to trade it for a V500
[G Pad 8.3 General] gunnyman:
I think you're right I'm just jonesing for some PAranoid Android on this device.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Aren't you satisified with xposed?

BTW, no rom for the V500 is as smooth as the V510. Not even close. FYI, I believe that the best roms are CM 11 and Beanstalk but it's a matter of personal taste
[G Pad 8.3 General] gunnyman:
I'm pretty satisfied, I just want to play I guess.

The Because it's there mentality.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Do you want me to install it on my V500 and upload a video of me using it? :P
[G Pad 8.3 General] mactron:
It's not working. I get an CrossDL Error!
[G Pad 8.3 General] Sumanji:
Hey guys, just wondering if you had any joy with your experiments :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
The only time there is joy in experimenting is when you get the results you are looking for. So to answer your question, no :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
Edit:

Let me rephrase that...the only joy that will come from experimenting with this any more is when the final result is the one we are looking for...its usually fun experimenting.
[G Pad 8.3 General] 1barlog17:
Do you know if it's possible to do this the other way around? Turn a GPE 510 into a non GPE 500? I like alot of the apps LG put on the stock device and wonder if it's possible to flash the stock 500 ROM on my GPE
[G Pad 8.3 General] cam30era:
If you really want to do that, why don't you trade me (+$) for my V500? Unlocked bootloader, TWRP recovery. Mint condition. PM me if you are really interested.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
I was thinking of trading my V510 too but going to wait till this weekend to see if I can build device tree to port AOSP based ROMs to V510.
[G Pad 8.3 General] cam30era:
PM me if you would like more info and/or decide on a trade.
[G Pad 8.3 General] joshuadjohnson22:
Do it ;) I would love to see you back on v500
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
My wife wanted a tablet. I was pushing for the G Pad V500 but she wanted the iPad mini. I was hoping she would have liked the V500 so I could have had both again to test with. She has used it once in two weeks and I am waiting for her to say why is the software different than my phone...she has a Moto X.
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
I have both of those tablets
[G Pad 8.3 General] player911:
So what is the exact roadblock? Locked Bootloader preventing the creation of some partition structures? Aren't both devices exactly the same? I know there has to be something or else it would be done.

My kid killed my Nexus 7 and I have to buy another. It would just feel like a shame to spend couple hundred bucks to get the same thing. The GPad would at least be an improvement CPU/Screen size. The GPE is $350 where the LG version is $225. Hard to waste over $100 for something a simple flash should be able to do.

The Nexus 8 will probably come out in July but thats 4 months away. Not sure I can wait that long. I do use my tablet for work and travel pretty often.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
I guess if the developers aren't gonna answer you, I will : they don't know why it doesn't work. WiFi is broken.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
Both devices are not exactly the same...
[G Pad 8.3 General] player911:
Do they have different wireless radios? So you CAN flash it to a GPE but WiFi fails?

In the LG G2 forums, there are methods to backup your system into a flashbable zip. Perhaps do that on the GPE then flash it to V500. Get it booting, then fix individual issues. Maybe just make a flashable patch or something to fix issues.

I thought it had something to do with the locked boot loader, but can't you guys use Loki to root and flash TWRP?

I thought LG G2 and GPad were almost identical.
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
The g2 and gpad are way different, and it's something in one of the partitions preventing it from working
[G Pad 8.3 General] pegox:
Can the situation change after 4.4.2 update?

Inviato dal mio LG-V500 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
No idea the gpad would have to get kitkat for us to find out, but I highly doubt it
[G Pad 8.3 General] pegox:
Thank you. Have you tried the leaked?

Inviato dal mio LG-V500 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
Nah I've been busy with work and sense 6
[G Pad 8.3 General] pegox:
Looking at your signature I've understood why sense 6:) thank you :)

Inviato dal mio LG-V500 utilizzando Tapatalk
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
It just came out mostly, also I have been modding it for years, I also have a g2 on at&t and a G pad as well
[G Pad 8.3 General] muiriddin:
Wi-Fi, Bluetooth it breaks when the quick switch is tried...

(quick switch being a basic lift of the V510 software and try and use it on the V500, See androidusers attempts at a rom thread for more details...)
[G Pad 8.3 General] player911:
So it works out of the gate and breaks when using a quick switch?

Seems like a small problem.
[G Pad 8.3 General] shooter365:
What is this "quick switch"?
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
It does not work at all. You can download this ROM http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2645226, add loki to the install script and all necessary loki files, make whatever changes to the build.prop, flash it and test it out. You can try to use different kernels and modules too to try to get it working...

There is also plenty of info in this thread to what myself and others have tried to get it working...
[G Pad 8.3 General] Demetris:
What is missing is the persist and tz partition ;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
It was tried with persist but not with the tz. I do not have the v500 to test with any more so if anyone wants to flash a test ROM then I will put it together...
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Me! Me!

Just please this time prepare the restoration files ahead ;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] Demetris:
[MENTION=4218641]AndroidUser00110001[/MENTION] due to difference in partitioning scheme you have to check both devices and make sure if they dont match you got them symlinked in init or else flashing them alone wont work [MENTION=5610641]EdenGottlieb[/MENTION] you can use(same time test ;)) the ones in 4.4.2 leaked update
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
I actually don't know how to do that, I'm not a developer...

I can flash zips and do other things, but I need simple instructions :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] Pixore:
Is this ROM GPE is stable?
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Stable? Yes.

Usable? No. No WiFi.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Pixore:
Ok, thanks.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Iceman248:
So what is the closest most stable equivalent to this?
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
Any good AOSP based ROM like CM...
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
I like CM 11 INFECTED, it's really smooth.q

BTW, what about trying the tz partition, [MENTION=4218641]AndroidUser00110001[/MENTION]?
[G Pad 8.3 General] DrDeeJay:
Demetris cant u compile the ROM since it looks like u know (or at least assume) what needs to be done?
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
And what difference would that be? There are already compiled ROMs for the v500.

The v500 and v510 use different hardware drivers so that most likely means the hardware is a bit different too.

A conversion of v500 to v510 is simply not going to work.

I already posted what needs to be changed at the kernel level for GPE ROM to have best chance to run on the v510 with functional WiFi, sound and camera. I am not doing it myself since I do not have the v500 any longer, just the v510 and gave up development for devices that I do not have in hand.

What someone needs to do if v500 users want a GPE ROM is to use straight AOSP code, use an existing device tree for the source, use stock LG kernel with whatever changes are needed and get it to all play nicely and compile using AOSP as base of ROM and not CM or any other AOSP based ROM.

Someone can also use the standard branch of PA ROM to have more of an AOSP based ROM. The base branch of PA is pretty much stock AOSP...
[G Pad 8.3 General] Canadoc:
KitKat know is available for the V 500. I would think just adding a launcher that is more like stock Google Android would give you nearly the same feel as the V 510
[G Pad 8.3 General] Nobodys_me:
I use nova dude but believe me you can't compare a launcher change to a base change...

A) you see LG stuff everywhere (talking about color and Co)

B) speed... A big difference....

Gesendet von meinem LG-D802 mit Tapatalk
[G Pad 8.3 General] Iceman248:
Does the smart cover feature work with custom ROM's, like CM? Or even the V510?
[G Pad 8.3 General] slebit:
It does work for me on mahdi.
[G Pad 8.3 General] vithorleal:
So, it doesn't work, right?

But can anyone tell me if there's great difference between a CM11 based version (any recommendations as to the best one?) and the v510 model (GP edition)? I plan on buying one, the v500, but as I live in Brazil, the GP edition just isn't available. However, I'd still like to know if buying the v500 is a good deal after flashing the CM ROM, meaning, will it get as good a performance as the GP edition?

Thanks a lot!
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Regular CM isn't as fast and smooth, but Infected's builds are really close in performence to GPE. i can assure you you won't be disappointed of the performence in infected's build (even though CM 11 isn't slow at all, infected is better)
[G Pad 8.3 General] vithorleal:
Thanks a lot for the answer!

I really would pay the difference in price if the Google Play edition was available in my country, but it is not :( So, when I buy it, I'll probably root it and install a different custom ROM.

I'll probably buy the G Pad 8.3 in the beginning of July (2014). It's still worth it, right? I doubt there'll better options for the price, and since I'm buying on Brazil, the difference in price between the Ipad Mini 2 with Retina Display is almost the double (because of importation taxes) and I'm not a fan of iOS anyway (never have been).
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
July? It's fine, but I'm pretty sure the next gen would be announced in the end of august-start of september (2 months from july), so decide if you want to buy this gen or wait for the G Pad 2. I'd wait if I was you
[G Pad 8.3 General] vithorleal:
Oh, really? And is that certain already? I mean, is there any "official" news or rumors about it? My only concern is, as the release will be happening around August, maybe it'll take a lot of time to get to Brazil. And, when it does, it's probably still going to be very expensive. Unless they keep a good price tag. And, do you think the new specs are worth the wait? Have the specs been published yet?
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
There are no rumors AFAIK.

Usually the next gen of devices comes a year after the last one...

It is up to you whether you wanna wait for the next gen (which has no rumors or launch dates) or buy it now. If I were you, in july (you said you can't buy it earlier right?) I'd check if there are rumors for the next gen. If there are, I'd wait. If there are no rumors, I'd buy it