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[Google Chromecast] Restorer:
OK, now you got me more worried :D.

So, can any people here please just confirm they have 5.1 DTS or AC3 (or even Dolby TrueHD or DTS HD-MA) being passed through by Plex to the Chromecast and being played as LPCM multichannel by their amps?
[Google Chromecast] abuttino:
You want a picture?
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
Oh wow. How weird. Thanks for the update!
[Google Chromecast] abuttino:
http://www.tinozplace.com/DTS-MAwPlex.zip

Can't get any better proof than that!
[Google Chromecast] Restorer:
Haha, thanks for that. Beyond "PCM" all I see is white blobs but I am not doubting you for a second if you tell me your amp is playing all the channels. It gives me hope that I can find the correct settings. My question was in response to Asphyx's post where he said now he wasn't so sure multichannel actually got played by the Chromecast.

I've spent a lot of hours tonight changing settings trying to get it going but still all I get is PCM 2.0 :(.
[Google Chromecast] abuttino:
The white blobs in the center of the picture depict each channel. Up top, you see one big bar, that's L/C/R, right under that you see two rear channels, then in the center a little further down is the LFE..

If you or anyone have doubts, I have a Pioneer VSX-1019AHK so you can look it up in the user manual what those blobs are :)
[Google Chromecast] third son:
On further investigation I think it is the rom. I can run the jb modem on cm and the wifi works when casting to avia.... So logic dictates that it is the rom...
[Google Chromecast] kawaiichi:
Is there any new method for casting browser-streamed online videos through flash player? My parents aren't technical minded enough to find the source on youtube, or don't want to cast a whole tab mirroring through chrome.
[Google Chromecast] Spike96:
It is my impression that Plex can stream videos a lot better than Avia can. I bought the in-app purchase for Avia, and have tried streaming 1080p, but it constantly buffers.

720p for Avia works fine. I know the buffering is not my wifi, I get close to 40mbps upload, 50mbps download.

Does Plex have any trouble streaming 1080p?
[Google Chromecast] abuttino:
Nope, just streamed an entire bluray movie with no error
[Google Chromecast] Spike96:
Streaming a bluray disc would be from a computer, right?

What about from a phone? My S4 records videos in 1080p and I would like to play them back on Chromecast directly from my phone using Plex.
[Google Chromecast] abuttino:
You can do that
[Google Chromecast] Asphyx:
Sorry Restorer ....I was just trying to point out that I had not seen any DHT settings in the profile, Just AC3. the AC3 is 6 channel so even if it wasn't implemented fully it probably would have been soon. If someone is getting it then it's there!
[Google Chromecast] Restorer:
Sorry, mate, not doubting you at all. I was just taking Asphyx's suggestion and asking people in general if they could confirm DD/DTS multichannel is working before I start re-arranging feeds on my amp.

Well abuttino certainly is getting it - and I've seen the blobs to prove it :D. When I get home I'll do some swapping around of inputs on my amp and see if I can get that Chromecast kicking out some more channels.
[Google Chromecast] smrsxn:
Plex solution is only operational of u have a plex server with u. Is it?

Consider following situations

- you are going out on a trip, and wish to stream a video from your phone to hotel tv

- you are at a friends place, and want to show them a video on your phone on their chromecast

So if I buy a plex client app for $5, does it have an option to play videos from my phone without needing a server at all?

I understand that the videos need to be in right format on my phone, as no transcoding will happen, as I can't lug a plex server/laptop with my phone all the time.

Can some one confirm please.
[Google Chromecast] Restorer:
Yay, Bingo! Had a swapping around session with the amp inputs and now getting LPCM 5.1 with both AC3 and DTS tracks. Slight sync problems but that may settle down?

Big thanks to Asphyx and abuttino for encouraging me to persevere :good:. So I guess this means now I have full AV quality from Plex it's bye bye to XBMC for me - quite sad really, but casting is so much more convenient. I think I'll keep XBMC for a reserve though in case the wifi maybe struggles a bit with some of the files - no sign of this so far.
[Google Chromecast] Mr-Glass:
I would really like to know this as well... I have asked a couple of times if Internet is needed, but nobody seems to know - I would like to take my laptop and a retired n router to my cabin that has no internet - couple that with Chromecast and have good entertainment there.... where tv signals are very poor... All this without taking the DVD's/Blu Ray disks....
[Google Chromecast] dragonflyr:
Having a problem with Plex Server and Avia casting to chromecast. Avia will cast a video (from plex) to tv and play, but after about 10 minutes or so just stops. Tried a couple videos .. same behavior. Played the video just on the phone (avia player from plex server) and it played the whole 30 minute episode.

Haven't had much (any) time to investigate .. but just thought I would throw it out there and see if anyone has experienced the same thing.
[Google Chromecast] j.a:
I have the same set up, plex server & avia casting to chromecast and have not had any problems. I have streamed both full length movies (2hrs +/-) and TV shows with no stopping or stuttering. I have streamed to 2 different ChromeCast devices, one running PwnedCast and the other Vanilla with updates from Google.

How is your Wi-Fi connection, could that be the issue? Or maybe the Chromecast itself? Can the computer that Plex is on handle the work load from Plex?
[Google Chromecast] dragonflyr:
thanks for the feedback. good to know it is doable.

yeah, i think all the throughput/hardware/signal is good and capable. have a feeling something is "timing out" on my phone (battery saving stuff maybe). will have to demo a lot of stuff this weekend (keep screen on, check wifi settings on phone, battery settings,etc..). also gonna try a tablet .. see if any different behavior.
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
It's a bit apples and oranges...

aVia just "throws" the data to Chromecast. It's your responsibility to make sure the media is in a compatible format. That said, aVia does seem to do some inspection and buffering of the media's data (which is currently hampering my ability to cast local). The buffering is to try to avoid pauses, I think. HBO GO does the same.

Plex, on the other hand, conforms (converts) media to whatever its Chromecast-compatible profile is. That's why you can play stuff via Plex that you can't play via aVia. If it's not Chromecast-compatible, Plex will transcode it so what reaches the Chromecast is.
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
[MENTION=744716]Asphyx[/MENTION] hit it on the head - there is no perfect all-in-one solution, not yet at least.

It depends on what kind of media you have and where you have it stored.

To add more to the confusion, RealPlayer Cloud also says it can cast device-local content in addition to stuff from its own cloud service....

BTW, paid aVia supports Dropbox too.
[Google Chromecast] wptski:
Didn't you have a problem with aVia? If not or got it fixed, what's your call, aVia vs AllCast?
[Google Chromecast] dragonflyr:
I believe this is the issue with my avia/plex/chromecast stream "drops" that I experienced last night; when a plex/avai video was "cast", Chromecast would drop it after a few minutes. BUT, if I played the video (from plex) on the phone screen .. it would play the whole episode.

So .. evidently an aggressive battery saving function was killing the stream .. probably after the phone screen went off. Will test tonight.
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
Still having trouble casting device-local media from aVia. I didn't have a chance to try my tablet or wife's phone last night - it's on the weekend To Do list now...

AllCast still works, though I'd like to remove the "Do you want to make this the default device?" option when there are multiple CCs visible. I know I can recompile and sign it - I just don't have a compile environment set up - and I'm lazy. :p
[Google Chromecast] wptski:
Exactly what kind of problem are you having with aVia?
[Google Chromecast] Asphyx:
aVia and Allcast are both similar in that send streams direct to the CCast. That means they are UNIT DEPENDENT and any problem with the unit going to sleep or being turned off will stop the stream.

Think of aVia and AllCast as a sort of MIRACAST without the DIRECT WIFI connection being made and Plex as a way of making your own YouTube or NetFlix server that will send the Stream without the unit having to do any of the work unless the content is SYNCED locally to the unit.

It's not the best analogy since Miracast and ChromeCast are very different in how they operate since you never directly connect your unit to the CCast itself you use a Normal Network, While Miracast is a Network itself. Miracast is essentially an AdHoc WiFi connection while Chromecast connects via Infrastructure mode.

Which is why Chromecast will work for anyone with WiFi and Network connection but Miracast will only work for units that support AdHoc Networking and Miracast specifically.

yes Dragonfly it makes sense that when it is dependent on the unit since with aVia the unit is creating the stream any sleep mode or interruption (even a Lag or FC) will be seen on the Chromecast. When streaming from the server directly if the Server died you would see the same thing.

The difference in quality is a direct result of WHAT is creating the stream and the creator's ability to transcode the stream in cases where the file is not compatible with CCast.
[Google Chromecast] smalis:
I tried to cast local content with RP Cloud and it said I had to upload the content to the cloud to cast it.
[Google Chromecast] wptski:
That might depend on the device, phone or tablet. I just started a video stored on my Nexus 10 with AllCast, putting it to sleep didn't stop the video, letting it go to sleep on its own either. No problem browsing while the video ran either.

The only problem I have with AllCast is that some delay starting and/or sputter at the start.
[Google Chromecast] Asphyx:
Well if Allcast works well it is most likely due to the fact that Koush is MUCH SMARTER than anyone at aVia! LOL

Koush understands Android maybe even better than some folks at Google! LOL

I'm sure he has found ways around some issues that can happen on a unit and simply worked the code to dispatch them from getting involved!

When I say they work similar is in regard to the fact that AllCast is doing the sending where on Plex, YouTube and Netflix the unit tells the Chromecast to get the files from them and the only thing the unit does then is act as a control surface.

In fact depending on the source of the file I bet Allcast will do it like Plex and Netflix does when it is possible.

I think aVia merely slapped the ability to send the aVia stream to Chromecast onto the player they had and never bothered to work on the other methods for sending content to CCast.

aVia main purpose is as a Player and they may have never considered the best way to stream content from sources other than their player directly.
[Google Chromecast] kadir456:
Amazon!

Sent from my Overpowered Galaxy S3 with RevolutionS4 ROM
[Google Chromecast] primetime34:
What do you mean by this?
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
I can browse and cast media from a DLNA server in aVia.

I can browse and play local media in aVia.

But if I try to cast local media in aVia, I see aVia start on Chromecast, it shows the filename, and then nothing. Eventually it times out and says the media is not compatible with Chromecast.

But the media is compatible with Chromecast because if I AllCast it, it plays.

The same thing happens for Video, Photos and Music.
[Google Chromecast] Spike96:
Can aVia stream MP4 videos from a phone directly to chromecast?

I've tried a 720p video, and I can play the video in aVia on my phone, but when I select the chromecast to stream it to, aVia force closes. -_-

Bhiga, I think you and I may be experiencing the same thing. I get the aVia logo on chromecast too, and then aVia quits on me. I can play music and pictures perfectly, though. It is only the videos that are giving me the issue. Specifically my movies (720p). The videos I've recorded myself play, but they constantly buffer (1080p).

Thanks for everyone's help! You guys have been extremely helpful.
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
My aVia stays open when I cast local media - 480p, 720p, 1080p, doesn't matter.

I did manage to find a video on my DLNA server that FCs aVia though, :eek:

Well, the road to Progress is bumpy, right?

Still could be related. Will have to check my tablet when I get home - and how RealPlayer Cloud handles local media.
[Google Chromecast] wptski:
I was going to try aVia just because the media can be anyplace. Have you notified the developer about your problems?
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
That might be true for content that's not compatible with Chromecast.

I just picked an MPEG-4 (.mp4) file that I know Chromecast can play - and it casted directly.

I picked another file that is not Chromecast-compatible and it told me I have to upload it to RealPlayer Cloud to enable Chromecast playback. Makes sense. Once it's on the RP Cloud, it can transcode it to a Chromecast-compatible format.

So... If you upload to RP Cloud it's like Plex. But if it's already Chromecast-compatible you can leave it on your device and cast directly.
[Google Chromecast] wptski:
The Avia Chromecast option is $2.99 now, I believe it was $4.99 before??

I reconverted some problem MP4's that wouldn't cast using AllCast with HandBrake and now they all cast. One that sputters with AllCast starts with aVia but stops with the not compatible message. All others cast. Just like AllCast, I can do anything else as the videos continue to play. Like AllCast, I can put the Nexus 10 asleep with no problem caused.
[Google Chromecast] Asphyx:
Not sure but I just saw that aVia has updated their app from yesterday....

Not really sure what it may have changed though...

we should be patient as these just came out what like two days ago?

I'm sure now that they are out they will find whatever bugs and quirks they may have missed and the products will improve as they find them.
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
It's been $2.99 as far as I know, and I looked middle of announcement day.

I just updated and had a chance to do more testing.

Update didn't fix my problem.

[MENTION=4037221]third son[/MENTION] - the issue does seem to be Jellybean 4.1.2

My wife's phone is the same as mine (except white instead of black) - Samsung Galaxy S3, AT&T.

Hers is on JB 4.1.1 and in aVia local media casts successfully - videos and pictures.

I'll contact them now that I've narrowed it to 4.1.2

Guess I could go back to 4.1.1, but I really like multi window... Hopefully they can fix it soon. I do like the local photo casting, as that's something I don't have with either AllCast or RealPlayer Cloud.
[Google Chromecast] AndroidGraphix:
I'm a playon lifetime member too and can't wait for them to stream in chromecast. That should make watching Blu-ray via iso easy peasy.
[Google Chromecast] ethanfel:
that make perfect sens. i have a plex server with a intel celeron G540, i can transcode easily on two outpout, but you can't with your i7. :good:

i'm sorry to say that but i smell BS :)

Both playon and plex are great solution but Plex offer a far more wide OS choice. "PlayOn is Windows-only software at the present time" that make it a bad choice againt plex if you want a cheap storage/transcoder server.
[Google Chromecast] dougmouat:
Ya I have a compac pissario w/amd athaion 3500, runniing ubuntu 12.04, I got out of the trash. I has no problem plexing to 3 devices at the same time. All so runs media tomb serving files to wd live boxes at the same time.
[Google Chromecast] third son:
My phone was running a custom rom. Project X.
[Google Chromecast] ethanfel:
Yes, streaming dont take much power. i have a Kimsufi dedicaced server for 5$ a month (500go + celeron cpu) it's not enough for transcoding but enough for stream movie to my chromecast without it.

i was talking about the transcoding ability. My G540 can transcode to two receiver without any issue so his i7 should be able to to much much much more. that's why i smell some big BS :)
[Google Chromecast] dougmouat:
Yes he should be able to do alot with an i7 maybe bad network card, cable, or router.
[Google Chromecast] Zammo76:
Just shelled out for Avia and it does pretty much everything I want it to do. The only issues I had was some videos I recorded on my phone (S3) were lagging. But I'd recently dropped the quality on my phones video camera and all these videos played fine.

All the films I had apart from an AVI played fine as well and this included MKV's. All this for under £2 and I could install the app on my tablet and phone without having to repurchase it! Job done.:good:
[Google Chromecast] Trax24:
vGet and Avia

I'm using vGet and Avia to cast some videos from webpage, Amazing. I don't need to download the files. I casted 480/720 without issue.
[Google Chromecast] aamir123:
so you were able to play an mkv with avia? I think your the first I've heard say that,does play smoothly?

you have an att s3 just upgrade to 4.3, you can also always flash a 4.3 tmobile rom. just be sure not to upgrade via ota or bootloader cuz then you wont be able to go back to below 4.3
[Google Chromecast] banccalif:
Can you elaborate?
[Google Chromecast] Nledesma:
Do these apps, specifically avia, communicate directly to the chromecast or does it do through my router. I ask because I am a little far away from my router and avia is much faster than say netflix.
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
Avia can cast device-local media and media from a DLNA source.

Both are local to your network, so transfer speed will be limited by your home network speed.

RealPlayer cloud can cast device-local media and media from the RealPlayer Cloud online storage.

Device-local is obviously local to your network, but anything played from RealPlayer Cloud depends on your Internet speed.

YouTube, Netflix, Hulu Plus, HBO GO, etc play media directly from the Internet, so speed will be limited by your Internet speed, which is usually slower than your home network, unless you have an extremely old network or poor wiring.
[Google Chromecast] Cuzz1369:
It goes through your router. Netflix is probably slower because of a poor or slow internet connection. When you cast from your phone it goes from the phone-router-chromecast. Netflix uses outside servers obviously.
[Google Chromecast] codycook:
I have tried the Plex with Chromecast. It works great for me. I had no significant issues. I played a 720P video from my local Plex server and it stuttered to start at first but quickly caught up; for awhile, I forgot I was even casting it to my TV. I am so excited about Plex over Chromecast. I visit the middle of a desert with crappy data but have plenty of networking equipment to keep myself entertained.
[Google Chromecast] Trax24:
vGet detects videos embedded in websites and allow you to download or stream them with any installed player, that include aVia.
[Google Chromecast] aamir123:
Hey bhiga can you get allcast to play with your galaxy?
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
The un-timebombed and still Chromecast-supporting Allcast version works fine on all my devices.

Of course my Chromecasts are rooted and running Eureka-ROM. Allcast won't work on a non-rooted Chromecast as it requires custom whitelist which Eureka-ROM provides.
[Google Chromecast] aamir123:
hmm I just went back to twiz and am having problems using allcast with the same content and methods I was having no problems with using CM11. I guess I'll keep troubleshooting, are there any special router settings I need to mess with? I'm at my parents house and maybe it's their router. Fling works the same as before
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
There's nothing special that I'm aware of router-wise. AllCast simply funnels the data straight over to the Chromecast.

Do the native Chromecast apps work OK?
[Google Chromecast] aamir123:
Yea actually I just tried a recorded video and that worked kept stopping but worked, I'm trying showbox but getting nothing for some reason
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
Sorry, no idea on the showbox side of things.
[Google Chromecast] aamir123:
figured it out, it seems to be a router problem, maybe something with my settings for multicast. Cisco refuses to help without payment so I guess I'm out of luck. Know anything I can try?
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
Disable IGMP Snooping (enable the option to disable it)
[Google Chromecast] aamir123:
filter multicast option is disabled, there is no option for IGMP snooping
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
Sorry, that's all I can think of.
[Google Chromecast] Zammo76:
Avia is awesome since it was updated. It now has Google+ and drop box integration plus you can also rotate photos. The chromecast really has come into its own now!
[Google Chromecast] bhiga:
I have to say I've been very impressed by Avia's support and development. The app is really growing, and even though I'm still having trouble casting local media on one device, I've been getting updates from their engineering/support team with hints/ideas and notifications of new builds to try.
[Google Chromecast] jikashow:
I use it daily, netflix and now with Avia's just a piece of cake ;)
[Google Chromecast] third son:
Please explain how you rotate photos in avia... Thanks
[Google Chromecast] Zammo76:
Hi

Avia is a little hit and miss when it comes to this. You need to open the photo so it has the controls at the bottom of the screen (such as next, stop, play) one of these is the rotate symbol. Unfortunately sometimes when I open a photo its in the gallery view and these controls are missing, and I haven't worked out how to switch between the different views. Someone else might know?

Edit: I worked out how to do the above. If it doesn't open the file in the correct view and stays in the gallery view click the file name at the bottom of your phones screen then it'll open the file into the view that shows the rotate button.

BTW I did a bit of messing with my chromecast and discovered that I couldn't play freshly downloaded music on Google Music, as it complained it was sideloaded but Avia played it fine. Sweet.
[Google Chromecast] markjleclair:
Chromecast and LPCM 5.1...

Hi Restorer,

I have been scratching my head here about LPCM audio and my Denon Amp (Chromecast connected directly to it).

I'm sending transcoded Plex out from a Mac Mini to the CC and the Denon even lights up with MULTI CH IN (PCM) but when I play movies (all confirmed to have DD and DTS 5.1 from previous plays on my WDTV Live) I can't hear a thing out of the rear channels... Was there any other steps that you went through other than switching HDMI inputs that you think could help? I'm soooooo close...

Also, when I check the status of the receiver it says 3 / 2 5.1 which implies that the receiver is indeed getting the 5.1 feed. Perhaps the CC is sending empty rear channels for some reason...
[Google Chromecast] Asphyx:
Your problem is a known Bug with Plex Transcoder.

Currently any Surround that has to get transcoded is losing the rear channels so it's not your setup or amp.

Test this by re-encoding one of your files to MP4/H264/AAC @4-8Mbs

That should direct play to CCast and give you full Surround sound rear channels and all.
[Google Chromecast] Restorer:
Yes, sorry, I should have reported back. I celebrated a bit early when I heard the LFE channel and saw the amp was reporting 5 speakers. It was not long before I realised there was nothing coming from the rear channels. As Asphyx says, the Plex devs are aware of it and hopefully a fix is not too far off.
[Google Chromecast] HB_Mosh:
Just here to report the awesomeness of the Plex app on Chromecast. I've been using it to play all my downloaded content from my pc without any issue. Although when I pause a movie or something, Sometimes the player forgets what is playing and gets stuck on loading the video.