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[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] vedko:
(very) short CM11 & CM12 comparison

Since the questions about CM11 vs 12 are coming out, here is a bit of my personal experience. Since a few weeks, I'm using [MENTION=5464206]AntaresOne[/MENTION] build (i.e. not the official nightly) and I upgraded through a full wipe from latest nightly (around Xmas).

The system runs faster and I'm pretty sure it's not only placebo. As far as I can say, everything is working, at least from the stuff I'm using (honestly I haven't yet tried Bluetooth.

CM12 is still a very new system (compared to CM11), so don't expect all the functionalities and customisation options implemented, e.g. quick settings in the notification bar are not customisable, quiet hours are only partially implemented, Themes not implemented etc. Battery life is pretty much the same as I had on CM11.

You have to expect brighter colours. So if you are a "darkish" person, CM12 might not be for you yet. Just open the new Gmail app and imagine the whole enviroment accordingly. Yes, there is already a dark theme available, but although it is improving from release to release very fast, it's not without glitches (especially in specific apps).

And at the end, the killer feature (at least for me): because of my employer's security policy, I have to have a quite strong password lock enabled, with the time-out set to 10 min's max. And this can get annoying, e.g. when you need to make a phone call while driving. The Lollipop has a functionality called "Smart lock" that leaves the device unlocked if 1. it's a secure location (defined by the user and determined by GPS/Wifi location), 2. it's connected to specific bluetooth device (a list can be defined) or 3. through a NFC tag.

PS Take this as my own experience. The best would be if you try it for yourself - with a nandroid back up you have nothing to lose, except maybe 1-2 hours.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] !crazy:
Oh, sorry, I actually didn't mean to criticise you. I just wanted to stress, and I did it in a wrong way, that the difference in power consumption between radio and WiFi adapter can be huge.

What you said is probably true. I am not expert in the area, but I have a solid background in telecommunications, protocols, even those low level ones, up to the hardware level. But it is still a background, and not the area which I am trying to improve at the moment.

I think there are more reasons for the difference.

Like the fact that radio has its own operating system, which runs in parallel with Android, and does God knows what with our data ☺. Also the way the protocols are built could have something to do with it...

All I know is that nothing drains more battery than bad cell network reception, and uploading videos to Google cloud over mobile network drains not less than screen, if not more when things stuck and don't work as supposed, what happens on regular basis with Google. Main reason why I still use Google services is probably b/c I use them for work also. Otherwise I would maybe run system without gapps... Only gapps packsge which I would be missing, besides gmail are maps, which develop at incredible speed. No navi system comparable IMO.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] 135Shadowsoul:
Hi,

what i want to do is just "emulate" the android 5 dev. setting "Aggressive WI-FI to Cellular handover". Is this possible in Android 4.4.4/CM11 M12? If yes, can you please tell me, how to?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] rynoism:
This is an interesting little read, I've been trying to decipher what it is you're trying to do, if I'm not mistaken, there is local resources on your wifi network, but the internet connection on wifi is unpredictable and unreliable, but 4G internet connection is mostly fast and reliable? So you need access to local resources AND reliable internet, and are not bothered about which network the internet traffic comes from, as long as it is fast?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] 135Shadowsoul:
Hi,

if you talking about my post b4 yours, i just want to do what i have said: i want my device to prefer mobile network (2g, 3g,LTE ...) no matter if WiFi is enabled/connected/whatever. Like the Android 5 "aggressive handover".

is this possible?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] stephendt0:
This bug is still plaguing the i9505, supposedly it is resolved but this is not the case - my device still locks up and resets when opening allstream.

https://jira.cyanogenmod.org/browse/CYAN-5715

Can anyone else test? All you have to do is download the app here and search for devices and it should reset: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.kineticgamestudios.airtunes.android&hl=en
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] worktorest:
Is invisiblek still maintaining cm11 or is it antaresone now?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Mittaa:
Hi

Use to get access to Jenkins, but not anymore jenkins.cyanogenmod.com/job/android/buildTimeTrend

Anybody knows why :confused:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] SnoopyDog:
Network search error seems to be fixed in next nightly. Obviously it is some kind of datastructure mismatch between one of the current used BLOBs and what the source code expects...

Edit: URL: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/85739/
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] foxbatul:
tooooo lllaaatteeeeee

in cm12 it's already done, since today

it'a a shame that since more than half year this very important bug wasn't solve. now it's 100 % useless..

from now on, cm12 it's the only one. goodbye cm11.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] SnoopyDog:
I will stay on CM 11 for a while...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Soufiansky:
Yes , CM12 isn't stable enough for a daily use .
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] !crazy:
Good bye, don't come back, b/c CM11 doesn't like you. I hope he won't say anything bad about you to his son, but don't count on that. Better check Sammy I think he has nothing against you,and he doesn't like CMs so...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] foxbatul:
nice one :)

thank you Sire,

:p
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] O-T:
Network search error reason was discovered and committed by [MENTION=3876105]spegelius[/MENTION] to branch CM12, jf_common

UploadedJan 17, 2015 4:06 PM

http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/85732/

Some minutes later [MENTION=2385005]invisiblek[/MENTION] copied this to branch CM11, jf_common

UploadedJan 17, 2015 5:28 PM

http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/c/85739/

Basically the change will have impact on both CM11 and CM12 as they are downstream jf_common in build chain. [emoji41]

And the issue is solving Bug: CYAN-5764 reported in JIRA.CyanogenMod.org - not based on postings about the issue here in xda-forum regarding nightly builds, but reference to the only builds allowed to refer in JIRA bug reports :

The M builds [emoji6] attached proper log and detailed description of issue written in English.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] nicholaii:
hi guys,

now im using cm12. can i downgrade to cm11?

feel like using back kitkat 4.4.4
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] NZgeek:
You can, but you'll almost certainly need to wipe /data in order to do it. If you don't wipe then there's a very good chance you'll either end up with boot loops, or you'll get all sorts of force closes when the system has booted.

The general advice is that updating to a newer build of the same ROM is fine, but anything else will probably require a wipe.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] foxbatul:
SOrry for that but not true. it's far better than all stable cm11 :)

( 18,01.2015 nighlty)

and all bugs are gone ( ex - infamous bug since august 2014 regarding using phone in roaming..)

please don't remind me again..
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] O-T:
You're free to enjoy CM12 while others enjoy CM11. And the reason this bug is fixed in both OS is that people run the M builds : http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=58268186

Not sure if CM11-20150118 first build after Jenkins maintenence will be infamous, but it's lacking this bug.

100% sure that all bugs are not gone in either CM11 or CM12.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] nicholaii:
ok i know how to. so just install cm11 as normal
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Marcet:
Somebody had issue with MMS.

I've tested and it works ok with this release.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] ViruuZ:
I have the double battery power hehe :D

Tapatalk | i9505 | 4.4.2 KitKat | Germany
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] aro:
when i seam audio (even locally stored music) to my car bluetooth audio (tunelink adapter), if sounds very disrupted.

anyone else experiencing this?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] B3t4:
Are you running Xposed + GravityBox? If so you have to disable the battery icon in either GB or in CM settings. Otherwise you get double batteryicons.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] ViruuZ:
Yeah i know, but i thought it is funny lol :highfive:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] HuStLaZ:
I have the same issue. Streaming music via bluetooth sounds a bit choppy.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] themetatron:
With my stereo headset, sometimes sounds scrambled. BT has been borked for awhile, and it's impossible to use a WiFi connection with BT so I rarely use BT anymore.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] feraay:
A lil bit Like auto tune ? Tpain ?

Gesendet von meinem GT-I9505 mit Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Mittaa:
Mail program dosn't seem to respect "don't delete on server" settings :cyclops:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] nonyhaha:
I don't have qny issues with bt streaming. I didn't have issues with any build. I am streaming to a sony head unit.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Moz007:
Is it possible in a future release to get back the torch activation on the lock screen with the home button ?

And maybe the option to disabled the camera screen on lock screen.

Thanks !
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] tomurbanowicz:
I noticed that signal of WiFi is lower than in CM10.2.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Redgoblin:
Hi all!

Is the bluetooth problem rom or kernel related?

I thought if I just could try another kernel...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] om22:
Absolutely no problems with BT audio streaming here. I am using a Philips Bluetooth Headphone.

Features from CM10.2 are currently being forward ported. In some time, all useful features from CM10.2 will be included.

I also flashed MKE Baseband and WIFI signal is much better than on CM10.2 for me.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] HuStLaZ:
More like chopped and screwed.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] MrJiM:
My sound in Spotify is screwed even with wired headset. And I got problem with the phone says out of space when I have loads of space left. That's when I download playlist in Spotify and when I do backup in titanium.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] HuStLaZ:
When wired it's fine, streaming from Google Play Music it's fine. BT connection to my Pebble watch is perfect.

It's only the BT streaming that's an issue
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] kewinhdorff:
opening apps from notification

i havning issues again on 20th nightly it started .. on 21st it is still present but not as much mostly when i open apps from the notification drawer

i thought it was fixed in latest nightly
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] p.brazauskas:
People still can not hear me via Skype 20131221 nightly :(
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] aro:
Bluetooth audio streaming disorted (Logcats)

It seems I am not alone with this problem.

I ran a comparison between my two smartphones (I9300 on CM 10.1 nightly and I9505 on CM 11 nightly), both streaming locally stored audio via bluetooth to my tunelink car audio adapter.

The I9300 streams good quality audio, the I9505 audio is very disorted (as one can clearly hear in the recordings i made).

Logcats and recordings attached.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] drewsky208:
Who's installed the 20150118 nightly CM11? Did your bluetooth go away with no ability to turn it on?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Kn!ght L!fe:
Cm12 is only having miner bugs. So its much of a daily use rom for me and dont feel like going back. cam was to dark when i used cm11, but i dont know how it is now. But then again its personal preference.

Sent from my GT-I9505
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] !crazy:
What are you talking about. CM11 is great. It can hardly be any better (considering the situation.). Everything works, all famous bugs are gone. Some issues happen rarely and randomly, I haven't found any pattern, but it ha0oens so rarely that I can say it is at the rate like with stock Samsung ROM, or stock ROMs of other famous OEMs. Though I cannot comment last nightly from yesterday, since I still haven't tried it.

---------- Post added at 03:34 PM ---------- Previous post was at 03:32 PM ----------

I am just about to flash the ROM, so I'll try to report a bit later. Am also just about to start a 2h trip with a car, and I'll check how the Bluetooth works (together with GPS navigation etc.).
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] lucsbran:
The man does do a great job. CM12 is a daily to use ROM.

AntaresOne = Best Dev
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] foxbatul:
cm11 it's great ROM ( i still have it on other devices ) but for S4, cm12 it's the new king

I m a big fan of CM team so if I will find some one to donate ( from my home country ) I'll do this from all mey heart.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] s3icc0:
I think there is a lot of great devs around ... some of them are also very important for linux comunity ... e.g. pawitp - as a kernel developer (Semaphore kernel) is also making very important commints to linux kernel in relation to memory management and ondemand CPU scheduler (maybe much more) etc ... Chainfire - he is important for all of us due to his root approach, even Mr cyanogen is ...

So I would say AntaresOne is great, but just one in a line of hundreds ...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] sancho_panzer:
"15. Keep threads / posts on-topic

Whilst a minor amount of off-topic posting may be overlooked, the general rule is that your posts / threads must be relevant to the Forum / thread in which you are posting."

This thread isn't about CM12!

Device:

Samsung Galaxy S4 (GT-I9505)

ROM:

CyanogenMod 11/M12 (KK 4.4.4)

Kernel:

Alucard-V1.4qs

Recovery:

TWRP 2.8.3.0

Modem:

I9505XXUGNE8

Device:

Nexus 7 (Grouper)

ROM:

CyanogenMod 11/M9 (KK 4.4.4)

Kernel:

Default CM11/M9 3.1.10

Recovery:

TWRP 2.7.1.0
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] efs12:
Same problem here.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] jcasares:
I tried to get the 2014.08.03 code but wasn't able. What I found is a release from 2014.08.01. Could that version be OK for you?

I remember that was the last one I used before the change and it was fairly stable besides the eternal bluetooth issues, and if I remember right I had a graphical issue.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] drewsky208:
I think I'm all set! I've managed to get myself into a stable configuration. By looking at logcats I knew that all of the troubles I was having were inside the kernel. So I went and did something that is unheard of (for me!) and installed one of the custom-made kernels with the hope that if someone is specifically maintining a kernel, they would give it a little more attention. So I stuck on the Googy kernel over the stock CM one and tested it throughout the weekend. I'm amazed and thrilled that the BT and Wifi stacks look pretty dependable now. I went the whole weekend without BT going freaky on me, not a kernel race, and solid/dependable Wifi. As a result of just that, all of my apps that speak on BT suddenly run solid now too. I've not restarted since Friday, and I haven't gone that long without rebooting since CM10!!!!!

So if you want to give that a try before going and doing custom builds, it might be easier for you? I'm freezing the OS on my S4 and I'm not going to do anything to it until I wipe it clean to put a Lollipop OS on it. No more updates for me! :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Soufiansky:
So you mean googy kernel is perfect for CM11 right ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] drewsky208:
Your words, not mine :) hehe. I will say that it works to fix the issues that I was having in particular that were a result of the kernel changes introduced back in Aug/Sep.

Now if I can just fix my tester S4 that I went and put the latest nightly on...I screwed it up good! (another reason I'm done with updating CM11)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] !crazy:
I had a different issue with Bluetooth. First time I enabled it (on yesterday's nightly) my system froze while I was using maps. I had to reboot.

Though second time everything went fine. Media and phone connected to my car, and the quality was ok as usual. Everything worked well... I still have to test this more, to see if this freeze was something serious, what will happen on a regular basis, or a rare radnom issue.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] 1weener:
Yeah. Sunday's build borked my Bluetooth; no on/off switch that works.

---------- Post added at 09:04 PM ---------- Previous post was at 09:00 PM ----------

Bluetooth is working fine on yesterday's build? I guess I'll try a reflash.

Edit: No go. I went back to last week's CM11 build.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] nicholaii:
anybody got problem with whatsapp? i cant verify..

i just installed cm11 yest
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] a103:
Its not the ROM, even I had same problem but is fine now.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] jcasares:
Might try that on my relative's S4 but she is on vacation now, so until February it won't be possible.

I suppose you used GoogyMax3_CM-Kernel_1.2.5_CWM.zip? And you're using a recent nightly of CM11?

I'm now using a One Plus One myself and working with the last stock release (CM11S). Won't try new builds as I need stability and nightlies are far from that unless you find a good one and stay with it.

I have everything I need so far and works relatively well (the device has some touch and radio issues, but that's general and still unsolved... maybe hardware issues that won't be ever fixed). I'm also not so crazy about Lollipop.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] drewsky208:
Greetings! Yes you are correct on my combo. Here's what I'm running:

CM11 20150101 nightly

GoogyMax3_CM-Kernel_1.2.5_CWM

Have the nightly on and working, flash the kernel zip over it in recovery, wipe cache and dalvik in recovery, reboot, profit!

I'm stunned by how quickly everything is cleaned up. My fitness tracker app (which speaks via BT LE) even has notification features that started suddenly working, apparently because the BT stack doesn't keep falling out from under the app now. I have the same combo running on my personal S4 and now my work S4 (which I messed up yesterday with the latest nightly). Both are solid now.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] worktorest:
What problem are u having with whatsapp?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] foxger:
I have the same problems, at the Phonenumber verification step, the ok_Button does not do anything. Also Clear cache, data does not solve the Problem.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] sergiomc22:
I had the same problem with 20150118 nightly, until I installed the GoogyMax3 Kernel last Version 1.2.5.

With this kernel, Bluetooth works again, at least, the toggle button, off / on.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] supimpacg:
Use nandroid manager. And restore the whatsapp data and app from your last nandroid backup. Should solve the problem.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] DenisGuy:
EDIT: I got this all wrong, I'll re-ask.

My phone is i9505.

I installed CWM 6.0.4.7 from here: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2397108

I downloaded cm-11-20150118-NIGHTLY-jflte.zip. CWM is giving me Code 7. Do I have the wrong version of CWM? Or the wrong version of JFLTE / JFLTEXX ?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Soufiansky:
Status 7 mean a recovery problem.

I recommend you philz recovery or TWRP.

Never had problem with them ;)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] DenisGuy:
.....Oh, I'm an idiot. I confused Status 7 and Status 9. I fixed on my own. Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] O-T:
CWM 6.0.4.7 can overwrite installation script - resulting in error 6

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?p=44417547

Older and newer CWM don't have that error.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] 1weener:
Jan 25th CM11 for JFLTE has been out for several hours now and EVERYTHING seems to be working just as i should. I have tried CM12 and it runs very well and can easily be used as a daily driver... but I think I like CM11 better at this point. I just don't really see any advantage to CM12 at this point; perhaps later, after it matures and gains the features that I use daily in CM11. My i337 luvs CM11! :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Mittaa:
Can't boot directly into TWRP recovery anymore :eek:
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Soufiansky:
Hold the 3 buttons , when you hear the vibration stop pressing the power button.

If this doesn't work , download rom manager and boot to your recovery from the app.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] worktorest:
U mean there's no more reboot to recovery option? Hmm why did they remove that?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Mittaa:
"Reboot to recovery" option still there, but it hangs for some minutes, and the shut device down. Never makes it into recovery.

I know how to get into recovery the manual way (hold the 3 buttons) ... but prefer to do it the easy CM way using "Reboot to recovery" :cyclops:

Update 25/01 had a lot of changes related to recovery, so I think the problem might relate to this http://www.cmxlog.com/11/jflte/ ...
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] worktorest:
I see. I shall not update then. Will wait for them to fix it.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Mittaa:
Would be nice if somebody could confirm this problem ;)

Anybody with same experience or is it only me?
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] ench18:
I'm using Philz Recovery (The last version) together with 20150125 nightly and all works just really good :)
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] 78Staff:
Agreed, I run cm12 on my Nexus 7 and while it works fine, it is missing of bunch of options that are in CM11. They are adding stuff every day, of course, but I'm sticking to CM11 on the phone anyway, due to needing xposed to run GFE.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] Mittaa:
Restored 20150118 and boot into TWRP worked fine :good:

Reflashed 20150125 and boot into TWRP failed :eek:

No doubt 20150125 is faulty when it comes to booting into recovery!
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] ench18:
First time to use TWRP (Ever lol :) ) last night just to see if i would get the same problem. The turn out was... TWRP & 20150125 nightly was wonky. It took me 30mins just to bootup. Then just going into recovery takes at least less than 10mins. Best thing to do is use a different recovery. Back to PhilZ and all is back to normal.
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] 1weener:
If I shut down the phone and go into recovery from there... I have no problem with TWRP. It just won't reboot to recovery from within the ROM. Besides for that, and it is not really much, there is nothing more wrong with this latest CM11 that I can find. In fact, it is now the best ROM ever! IMO
[Galaxy S 4 i9505 Original Android Development] ench18:
I agree :good::D