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[G Pad 8.3 General] jcagara08:
Yeah I guess this what happens all the time keep it up android user 01000100 btw sent you a Pm
[G Pad 8.3 General] Stu C:
I know it's not with the spirit if this particular thread, which is about converting the V500 to the V510, but I cannot see what there is to be gained from this versus an AOSP ROM or a custom ROM like CM or PA. Is time and effort better spent on the custom ROMS that look the same as the GPE and offer additional functionality? I would be happy for someone to enlighten me.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
I really don't know too much, but I think it has something to do with getting the software and hardware to work perfectly together.

The AOSP Roms are still in nightly stage and have issues (as far as I know) and are not optimized to use the hardware.

The GPE Rom was created by LG and Google to support the G pad's hardware the best with no issues.

Am I right?
[G Pad 8.3 General] Stu C:
In my opinion, even the GPE software is a disappointment, IMHO... I would have liked to see the IR blaster working out of the box, effective use of the external SD card, Knock On should have been carried over. I'm hoping that the custom ROMs will be the best of both worlds.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
The only reason I decided to choose the Nexus 7 2013 was the software, I didn't know if AOSP ROMS would come out (XDA usually HATES LG)

But I changed my decision because the GPE came out...

Still wondering if I should buy regular for 300 or GPE for 350 though

Don't know if AOSP ROMs are going to be good enough in the near future

Edit: Oh Crap. The deal just ended. I took too much time to decide. :crying:
[G Pad 8.3 General] kalagas:
Xda hates the LG or developers?

And why is this happening?

Sent using Mixed Theme from omegadroid.co
[G Pad 8.3 General] jcagara08:
Whoah whoah guys everyone's got a choice here now the thread is a priceless effort by our very own androiduser100010101 he even bricked 1 device and still continuing this project, personally why I dwell in this topic is that I support the mentioned member and once this port is perfect I will be getting a regular lg g pad and flash it to a gpe version which had already been done to ther devices which have bought ordinary and google, nexus editions
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
The developers...

I guess it's because they are tough to unlock bootloader and crappy updates.

Look at how many ROMs samsung devices have, and how many LG devices have
[G Pad 8.3 General] jmill75:
Ok first off what a way to derail a thread about developing, this has NOTHING to do of the task at hand.

A simple Google search would enlighten you on what a GE device is, its just that a stock Android device. No bells and whistles, want b&w's then get the LG skinned edition. Simple as that.

If you are upset because certain features and hardware does not work then you obviously do not know the purpose of a GE device.

Jeesh
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
Basically you are right. Currently AOSP ROMs have issues with games. If GPE ROM works we have a stock device and then can use xposed modules to add features from custom ROMs such as advanced power menu and whatever else one may like.

On Another note can someone with a v500 pull the modem partition please?
[G Pad 8.3 General] Momar99:
How can I do that?
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
try dd if=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/modem of=/sdcard/modem.img

from adb shell

so adb

su

dd if=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/modem of=/sdcard/modem.img

and then it should be on sd card.

or

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0p1 of=/sdcard/modem.img

then download this http://androtransfer.com/AndroidUser00110001/ROM/GPad/V500/modemflash.zip and replace the current modem file with the modem file that was pulled and upload it somewhere for me to download.

I am not home and don't have the tools to do it with me :)

Thanks!

Edit...

All fixed. Thanks anyways!
[G Pad 8.3 General] sga999:
Sorry to be off-topic, but a quick comment on the price. Newegg is still showing $299 for the V500.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Thanks dude!

This decision is so hard...

On one hand, I'm afraid that the GPE Rom will not come out and I will be left with a crappy LG ROM or an unstable AOSP ROM with issues.

On the other hand, I want to save 50 bucks cause I'm 15 and don't have a lot of money.

What should I do??
[G Pad 8.3 General] sga999:
I understand your dilemma! I guess I don't think the LG rom is crappy. And also, I somehow have faith that stable roms will be released. I know most people probably don't care about the extra features and apps on the V500, but I'm actually enjoying seeing some of those. Of course, that might change as time goes on....it just feels new and fun right now. Having the option of putting on the GPE rom would certainly be terrific.

It's too bad you weren't able to jump on a good deal a couple of weeks ago. I heard it was $179 for a day somewhere. Then maybe $250 on Cyber Monday. And only $251 on Newegg 4 days ago if you used a certain type of credit card. Unfortunately, I didn't see that until the next day, and I had just bought it at BestBuy. Oh well.

No big deal, but I'm not a dude but a girl....50 years older than you. Wow, I like the diversity here!
[G Pad 8.3 General] Poke_N_PDA:
Personally, I got a cheap stock version and I'm just putting up with the crappy room for now. Considering other instances, it's only a matter of time till we at least get a fully ROM. Hopefully we'll get full gpe.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Stu C:
Sorry folks, didn't mean to cause offence... it was an honest question, and I am mindful of androiduser100010101's efforts and plight having bricked one tab: I'm also following his work on CM11. I run CM10 on my phone, and I see that as being equal to GPE and AOSP, because it does not have any skins (bells & whistles) and presents a stock Android experience... plus the bonus of other, useful features.

We don't have the GPE in the UK, and I had my eye on the G Pad for a few months, but decided not to purchase because I thought I would be stuck on the LG stock ROM. I then purchased one when the GPE was released, because I am now confident that there will be good xda support for the tablet.

If both the GPE and CM11 ROMS are built and fully working, then I will opt for the CM11... I was genuinely curious why people had a preference for GPE.
[G Pad 8.3 General] channeledbymodem:
If you can wait until after Xmas I'm betting you'll see the stock G Pad available at more resellers at a stabilized price of $279 while the GPE holds at $350. So there's that.

As for "unstable AOSP ROMs with issues," I have used the CMB version of CM11 for the past three weeks, almost from the day I got the stock G Pad. For a week or so there were issues with GPS, the camera, and sound from the built-in speakers, but apart from the audio issue, these didn't concern me and the ROM was stable from the first. Updates came almost daily until now the G pad is as stable and AOSP "pure" as my Nooks running "official" CM10.1. I'm completely happy with the ROM. I have had none of the wifi or BT issues people are complaining about with the CM11 nightlies. I don't play games but I would imagine that if the CMB ROM was misbehaving on games, somebody would have brought it up.

Speaking of which why is it the CMB ROM seems so much more stable than the CM11 nightlies when they are both presumably based on the same source code? Is the CMB team just that much more talented. :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] naruto.ninjakid:
Im 19 just got my cash in order So im interested in getting the device. Im probably going to go with the LG version I like to switch back and forth between OEM skins and stock android as stock gets boring after a while. I like to see what other people are getting.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Thanks guys! I can wait for deals. I'm very patient. Where should I be looking for them?

I'm from israel so I really don't know american sites
[G Pad 8.3 General] cbb77:
Don't know if they ship international but Newegg is still showing it for $299.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834325004

This is probably the best it's going to be for a while now, since the holiday season is ending.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Thanks!

I'll hop on that deal ASAP.

My cousing from the USA orders it to himself, then ships it to me
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
I did the conversion. I returned the v500 and ordered the GPE :)

Sorry guys that I couldn't get the port to work. It should have with everything I tried. I almost want to say the hardware is slightly different or there was one silly thing I missed. I updated the thread with new 4.4.2 ROM if anyone else wants to take a shot at it.
[G Pad 8.3 General] NJ_RAMS_FAN:
I'm almost tempted to do this as well. :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
I'm so undecided and confused about what to get.

I am starting to think that I should just go with a N7 2013
[G Pad 8.3 General] ekterion:
Opinion

I have V500, and I starting thinks that it was bad choice, in my opinion N7 2013 is better, just day after day my G Pad pisses me off more. With G Pad u geting rly bad screen (brightness and colour are disappointing) and the worst speakers I ever heard (!!!).

...and I forgot to say that LG have the worst launcher for android for sure.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Have you compared them both side by side? Most people say thw G pad is better and I really prefer 8.3 over 7.I know the g pads screens had some bad batches but I thought it was fixed by now.
[G Pad 8.3 General] DontPushButtons:
The screen on my 8.3 (bought 2 weeks ago) was great aside from being a little dimmer. No calibration needed, no blue line showing up no bright spots anywhere. Seems like it finally got ironed out. Maybe I was just lucky..

I'm also considering returning it and paying the extra for a GPE though. The size is pretty ideal for what I want in a tablet, and the speakers weren't as atrocious as many people would have you believe, though they had nothing on the Kindle hdx speakers... Worst case, get a separate speaker or headphones.
[G Pad 8.3 General] ekterion:
Two mounth ago I had Nexus 7 II, but only for a few days (sold), I didn't compared they side by side. What I remember: I can say that the Nexus 7 had better screen quality (perfect for me), also battery life was just great, but on the othere side the N7 have a little too small screen (comapared to G Pad diffrence is big, and felling. Big advantage of G Pad is screen size (yea it's perfect), but almost everything other is better in N7. I'm thinking about sell LG, and maybe buy again N7, or favorite iPad Mini Retina (I had 1st generation, and screen size was even better than in G Pad) ... But for his prize I can buy almoust 2x N7 (I live in Poland)...

P.S. Sorry for my english :)
[G Pad 8.3 General] churraman:
Fearing that the conversion might be very difficult or impossible to achieve after a long thought process I decided last week to get a nexus 7 and have not been disappointed. Yes the G pad has a larger screen and that is a big plus but at the end of the day the nexus 7 has better accessory support as well as dev support and that sealed the deal for me.
[G Pad 8.3 General] mustbepbs:
Lol, really bad screen and worst speakers?

Sensational much?
[G Pad 8.3 General] nycbjr:
LOL this is perhaps the highest praise one can get, while its based on the same rom source our device tree's are slightly different, perhaps that is playing a role here, but glad to here its working well! I'll bust a new build out here and post in the morning, no huge changes just incremental updates.

So to go back on topic (slightly), when I heard about the GPE announcement of this tablet (less than a week after i purchased the v500, and the day I released the first AOSP based custom rom lol) I was kind of miffed, and considered returning or selling it to go GPE, but frankly after looking at the system dumps, following this thread, hearing reports like channeledbymodem, and just my own using of my tablet that is running a loki bypassed CMB, I have no regrets having bought the v500, with loki its every bit as unlocked, and the rom is 100% functional (IR not withstanding).

Thanks Androuser for your hard work in flushing this out, I tried porting the GPE over to the v500 (a simple rom port not the partitions) too, I gave up when I figured noting really would be gained by it (for my rom dev), the non loki bootloader unlock would be nice if it were cut and dry, but ces-lie-vie..
[G Pad 8.3 General] channeledbymodem:
loki rules ;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] nycbjr:
thanks for your donation man! Merry Xmas!
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Agh, this decision were a lot easier if I could at least one of the devices!

No stores are showing them in display nearby. NONE. I found one showing the N7 2013 but it's 45 minutes driving away and I don't have a car.

All our local stores show (if they show) is all of samsungs latest devices (the importer pays them), the old N7 and a Memo Pad HD 7. In some special cases the LG G2. Can you believe that Americans?
[G Pad 8.3 General] sga999:
AndroidUser, not sure if I should post this here or in the thread where you posted the .zip file. I just flashed it with TRWP, and did factory data reset. I wanted to install a couple of apps, "just for fun", so I was able to put an .apk onto the G pad. I enabled Developer options. In order to install an apk, I have to be able to allow unknown sources. However, when I click settings - security, I get "Unfortunately, Settings has stopped". So I can't enable unknown sources. Did you have this problem, or is it something only I have created?

I have other issues that you may not have had. For camera app, I get "Can't connect to the camera". I have no sound, even though volume is all the way up (you may have mentioned that). Of course, no wifi or bluetooth.

EDIT: I forgot to mention the battery. I knew I only had about 50% remaining, but it showed about 95%. Weird.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
I think the GPE ROM (atleast AndroidUser's one) is already dead. You don't have to overkill it.

I'm so sorry that your hard work did'nt pay off, AndroidUser...

Maybe another developer will pick up where you left off and get it working! who knows
[G Pad 8.3 General] sga999:
I'm certainly not trying to "overkill it". AndroidUser put the rom out there so that others can try it, and maybe someone will have ideas. I tried it, and if I'm getting different results than he did, I'd like to know why. If you don't care to try it, that's fine, but don't criticize those who do.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Sorry if i insulted you fella, that's not what I meant.

I'd try it myself if I had a G Pad.

What I meant was: AndroidUser stopped working on it so I think further testing is not really necessary right now... At least not until AndroidUser or some other developer starts working on this project again
[G Pad 8.3 General] sga999:
As I said a few posts back in response to you, I'm not a fella or a dude. And we have a basic difference of opinion here. Any insights that can be learned by having others try AndroidUser's rom could be helpful. It doesn't have to be a developer. I hope you get the device and try to help.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Sorry gal, you're the one said the thing about diversity right?

I hope to get my G Pad too and try to help, but I still think that if AndroidUser has given up and no developer is on it its currently pretty useless. If AndroidUser says he will continue to work on it if we make any sort of "breakthrough" while testing then yes, it's worth it.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
Okay guys! I have come to a decision after seeing the N7 2013.

And my decision is : LG G Pad!

The N7 2013 speaker is just not loud enough and I heard G pad's louder (quality idn't such important to me) plus it's not as speedy as I thought it would be with 3 users. I have come to the conclusion that stock android boards me a little bit and I'd like to have a LG rom option too. About screen brightness : The N7 2013 is just too bright indoors (I won't be using my tablet outdoors) and I believe the dimmer G pad would satisfy me. Plus, screen benchmarks shows that the G Pad has much better blacks (very important since I like to watch sows at night, a lot of dark scenes).

(BTW : are double posts forbidden? I'm pretty new here.... If yes, sorry!)
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
I am aware of all the issues. That's why I had a bunch of extra apps like terminal and logcat installing with ROM so I can debug or whoever else wanted to debug it.

Thanks for your input.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
OK Sga999, you win! I'm sorry for being pessimistic about the GPE ROM.

The GPE ROM development will never die.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
I am pessimistic about it too ;)
[G Pad 8.3 General] Demetris:
Hello,

I cant really promise anything but [MENTION=4218641]AndroidUser00110001[/MENTION]

Am really interested to buy that bricked gpad for some Gplay porting.

What is the outcome of cat /proc/partitions on both tablets?

Can someone post the related info?

Thanks
[G Pad 8.3 General] xdapao3:
Quick comparison having had a Nexus 7 2013 32GB Wi-Fi and having just swapped it for a G Pad 8.3: the Nexus 7 is way better UI performance-wise, the display is much better and I very much miss wireless charging, NFC and the rubber back (HATE the feel of metal on mobile devices). That said, its 7" display is just too small for me, 32GB too few and the speakers too weak. I am very happy about the switch and even with its weak spots I feel like the G Pad is the overall best smaller tablet on the market right now (if I wanted a full-size tablet I would simply get a Note 10.1 2014 which is totally AWESOME but the problem for me is weight, I feel that anything beyond 300/350 grams is simply too heavy to be ergonomic and truly comfortable for extended use).

As for the software, the G Pad GPE is surely faster but you would have to give up, among other things, Knock On, the IR Remote and full SDcard support and those are huge deal breakers for me.

True, LG's ROM is most certainly slower and laggier than stock Android but it's also way more feature complete (which is probably also *why* is slower...). Features that I do use.
[G Pad 8.3 General] relacm:
Please move this discussion about nexus 7 and lg g pad to another thread, this one is only about converting a v500 into v510.
[G Pad 8.3 General] AndroidUser00110001:
It's on the way back to LG for warranty repair :)

MY GPE G Pad arrives tomorrow and when I get the v500 back (might be a couple of weeks) I'll have both side by side to see what the real difference is. I almost want to say there is a slight difference in hardware based on qualcomm drivers being used between the two devices but that can happen for other reasons. V500 is using a mix of MSM8930 and MSM8960 based drivers while V510 has all MSM8960 drivers.

Edit...there are also two different versions of the S600 8064T & 8064M but have not researched to what the differences are if there are any and if both devices are using the same version.
[G Pad 8.3 General] Demetris:
You only flashed system or boot also?

Ok i started working on it even without the device :)

Here is the Fstab of Palman

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system /system ext4 ro,barrier=1 wait

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cache /cache ext4 noatime,nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered wait,check

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata /data ext4 noatime,nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered,noauto_da_alloc wait,check,encryptable=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/metadata

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/persist /persist ext4 nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered,nodelalloc wait

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot /boot emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/recovery /recovery emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/misc /misc emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/modem /radio emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/sbl1 /sbl1 emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/sbl2 /sbl2 emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/sbl3 /sbl3 emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/tz /tz emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/rpm /rpm emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/aboot /aboot emmc defaults defaults

/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host auto vfat defaults voldmanaged=sdcard1:auto

And here is V500

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/boot /boot emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/recovery /recovery emmc defaults defaults

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/system /system ext4 ro,barrier=1 wait,check

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/userdata /data ext4 noatime,nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,noauto_da_alloc,data=ordered,errors=continue wait,check,encryptable=/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/encrypt

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/persist /persist ext4 nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered,nodelalloc wait,check

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/cache /cache ext4 noatime,nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered wait,check

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/drm /persist-lg ext4 nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered wait,check

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/mpt /mpt ext4 nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered wait,check

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/factory /factory ext4 nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered,nodelalloc wait,check

/dev/block/platform/msm_sdcc.1/by-name/sns /sns ext4 nosuid,nodev,barrier=1,data=ordered wait,check

/devices/platform/msm_sdcc.3/mmc_host auto vfat defaults voldmanaged=sdcard1:auto

/devices/platform/msm_hsusb_host auto vfat defaults voldmanaged=usb:auto

Hmm

You guys have a way to dd the whole nand(mmcblk0)?

If so i would dd read it x2 and md5 check it so am 100% is not corrupted and if you can write it back into a normal gpad i think it should work 99.99% ;)

Example

dd if=/dev/block/mmcblk0 of=/storage/sdcard1/Palman_nand.img bs=4096 conv=noerror

Or else you have to take the parted way as it looks like partitions are not the same.
[G Pad 8.3 General] EdenGottlieb:
My mom got me the G Pad while I was on a school trup.

I was so happy! It's really awesome

After seeing both, I think the G Pad kicks the Nexus's ass!

The speakers are much louder and sound worse than the nexus's but the sound quality loss is definetly worth the volume boost.

The screen is gorgeous, no yellow white or weird lines, only a tiny bit of light leak when in brightness 0 (I only notice when I try to find it)

The size is perfect. Easy to hold, big screen.

The IR blaster is a really nice gimmick and I use it a lot

Micro SD is useful as well.

I like the build quality better than the Nexus's and I think the design is brilliant.

As for the LG ROM: I have an iPhone 4S jailbroken-to-the-max and it's pretty slow so the G pad feels very quick to me. I got it rooted and Got xposed and made it a little more Nexus (for example: ordered navigation keys the same as a nexus) .

In my opinion with a little bit of xposed changes the LG ROM is great and useful (although i'll probably get CM or CMB soon).

Last note: The vibration motor is a nice addition.

I would like to help with the GPE ROM project but I'm a noob, so if you want something extracted you can ask me and give me instructions
[G Pad 8.3 General] thoughtlesskyle:
This part was obvious actually, a long off topic post with a last minute redemption is still an off topic post, it also means that you didn't read the thread because not even a page ago they asked for this nonsense to stop, also please don't swear.

To top all of that off nobody in this thread cares what mods you did to yours that don't involve your device being converted to a Google play edition.

Also i know this is going to annoy you so there is going to be a long clamoring response to it. I've heard it all before so don't waste your time.

Thanks for your cooperation