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[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
bestbuy to confirm but sale ends at midnight. I ordered one and it will be waiting for me at hotel in Anaheim on Jan 1. That will give me 15 days to play with it and see. I like having some character on tablet from OEM's but am still gun shy after owning the Asus tf700 and hating the lag issues with that tablet.

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buy it and play with it until Jan 15 which is best buys current return policy.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
I really like QPair, I just don't use it so much because my One X's battery is not what it used to be and having bluetooth turned on all the time will surely make it worse. As for lag, you got nothing to worry about :)
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
Thanks. I have a note 3 so battery drain with bluetooth is minimal. For once I just think the extras lg has put in might be worth not buying the GPE version, plus the 50 bucks cheaper doesn't hurt. I know it's not a whole lot of money but these tablets keep coming out so I'm sure I will want a better one within the year. The wife says I have a technology addiction...lol
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
Haha tell me about it. I bought an iPad mini back in November last year (now being used by the missus), then a Pipo M6 back in August, and now I have the G Pad :P Granted, the M6 was a piece of ****e which is why I basically dumped it. But I can't be happier with the G Pad!
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
I'm snake bitten right now because I spent a ton on the Asus tf700 and the lagginess is awful on it. I basically have a 600 dollar annoyance. Gonna give it the wife too..lol
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
Haha, I love how giving our spouses our unwanted devices seems to lessen our guilt for upgrading too early :P But honestly, I don't think you have much to worry about in regards to lag on the G Pad. I've heard people saying that theirs are laggy and I would love to actually see their devices because either they are extremely impatient and sensitive to stutter of any kind or they were unlucky enough to get a faulty device. Or they work for Samsung :rolleyes:

As far as I'm concerned, LG has made the best Android tablet I have ever used bar none (although my brother's Xperia Tablet Z comes damn close in terms of design but a distant second in terms of general smoothness). Of course, there is also the Nexus 7 but after putting that and the G Pad next to each other, it becomes pretty obvious which one I'd rather look at and use.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
I find 7 inch just too small and all the Samsung tablets are under spec'd and over priced. I've tried the lg g2 and find there little touches are nice. Obviously GPE version will be faster but will have no character to it. I am also not concerned about having the newest android version right away as long as the current one I'm on works.

I also hand my phones down to the wife too..lol keeps the guilt low and the addiction alive:D:D
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
Yes to all of the above :highfive:
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dan1942:
Just went out in the snowstorm we are having here and bought it before the midnight deadline. I could have ordered on line to save the price and picked it up Monday, but I need something to play with tomorrow after I finish shoveling...I ended up with the white one, because I was surprised to find I liked it better.

Only downside is that now my wife will want an ipad air or mini with retina, so there goes the $50 I saved on the sale.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
Post how you like it tomorrow once you've stayed up all night playing with it...lol

That's my concern, I ordered black to meet me at hotel but was wondering what the white would look like. Can always exchange it once I get to the USA
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bckrupps:
Im an apple guy. Traded my iphone 5 for an LG 2 and returned my ipad mini for the G Pad. LG has completely won me over. All products have their flaws and this is no different. G Pad battery cant come close to an ipad but otherwise i love them both
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
I'm assuming you don't have the new GPE google version. So how is the lg touches like QPair? Also have you noticed any lag whatsoever?
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] bckrupps:
Maybe some people were unlucky but the screen is amazing on this. I did change the color temp slightly. No i have the LG stock version but i delete alot of stuff with titanium backup but i prefer some of the LG stuff. There is some slight lag here and there but very little and nothing that would bother most. QPair works perfect on mine and is one of my favorite features.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dan1942:
Spent most of the last 24 hours with the screen on, playing with it when I wasn't eating, sleeping, or shoveling snow, and battery was still at 7% when I stopped. Everything seems to work well, and I think I will stick with the white, although it is a close call. I have small hands but can hold it in one hand easily. Only downside is that my hand is tired from spending so much time holding it....
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cmscritic:
I've yet to experience any of these issues. This thing is very fast and the screen is amazing. You obviously got stuck with a bad batch or bad luck.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Zeblade:
No I would not recommend. The brightness is like everyone says just way to low. The speakers are ok yet have this tin box sound on way to many apps that use sound. Battery life is not good at all.

Brightness, sound, battery on ALL LG G Pad 8.3 will be the same. There is no "bad batch" sorry :)
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
Well there seems to be more early adopters complaining about the "blue line" fault than the people who got it later so there could be a "bad batch". As for brightness, do you have auto-brightness on? I find the auto-brightness to be a bit on the low side but if I turn off auto-brightness and then turn it to anywhere above 50% then it is more than enough in most situations (note that for some reason, if auto brightness is on and you manually turn the brightness to 50% for example, it will look dimmer than at 50% with auto-brightness off. This isn't the case on my other Android devices since usually as soon as I try to change the brightness, the auto-brightness automatically turns off). I was out in the park a couple of days ago on a sunny day with the brightness turned to around 85% and it was highly usable.

As for sound, I think it does the job perfectly fine. I'm not expecting much considering it's size, but if it's on par with my other Android devices and my iPad mini, then I'm happy (and it is).

Battery life is a bit disappointing, but for some reason, I feel like I'm getting more out of it the more I use it (which I know doesn't make sense). The first few days I got it, it would drop to around 10% or less after 12 hours out of the house (and I use it A LOT) with one time completely dying on me. But the last few days, I would still have at least 40% after coming home although I am using it slightly less, but not by much.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marvin02:
I would recommend it. I have not had any of the issues others have.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] normz007:
Got my LG G Pad 8.3

Finally got my LG G Pad 8.3. And so far I'm loving it. The shop where I got it only had the white version. Anyhow, I love the double tap feature of waking the device. I do agree that the display is a bit on the darkside and would need some adjusting. With regards to the battery life, on mid-heavy usage I get around 5-7hours on idle times or email checking or web browsing from time to time (rarely) the max is around 20-27hours (making sure that I don't fully drain my batt nor over-charge it). I also tried out the QPair - able to reply to SMS Messages on my LG G Pad while paired to my Samsung Galaxy Note hehe.

The downside is the SD Card, I bought a 32Gb card and unfortunately by default you can only place files through the File Manager (Movies, docs, music) or Photo (through FM or camera app)... you can't move apps to SD card and I think you need to have your device rooted (please inform me if there are other ways of doing it without rooting). Now, I'm looking for a smart case - good thing is I got my device with two free jelly back covers and just bought a sleeve for it.

FYI, everyone in the office loved the G Pad. :) And they're thinking of getting one of their own.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
If you do wanna root, just follow the instructions on http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2553192. They've made it so easy and it's much better than the Kingo Root method since none of your data is harvested.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] m0b1liz3:
I was trying to verify this is true. I downloaded the XDA root file and it looks similar to the Kingo Root with the addition of a batch file. Not sure how that prevents it from sending out data...

To answer the OP's question:

FOR:

1) Form factor

I was going to shell out almost 200 more to buy a Galaxy Note 10.1 2014 version. It just felt to big and heavy to be useful as a tablet to me.

8.3" is the ideal size. In fact it could probably go close to 9" with a thin bezel and still fit in my hand.

2) Screen res

3) Speed, performance etc.

4) EX SD Card.

AGAINST:

1) screen is dim (its adequate but I set it over 60% even at night) which makes point number 2 worse

2) battery life could be better

3) Price should be probably 50$ lower but there have been some pretty good deals lately.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SCWells72:
Totally agreed. My ideal tablet would be the G Pad stretched out to 8.9" with a similar thickness, tiny bezel, etc. Having said that, the G Pad 8.3 is as close as I can find right now.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
Is there anyone on here that purchased the Google edition and can confirm that you actually use Qpair on it. Rumor is qpair was just updated and now actually supports google edition with 4.4 kitkat
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] SCWells72:
I can confirm this. I installed it on my GPE and it pairs with my Galaxy S4 no problem. I will qualify that in both cases (LGE and GPE), my Galaxy S4 does not support network sharing, so I don't know if that works on the GPE, but given that everything else does, I suspect it should.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] makailey:
Awesome that is the only feature that was leaning me towards the lg regular version. I wanted to be able to use Qpair with my note 3 but now if I can have pure google and qpair, I am sold on google edition
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lavahorsecz:
Could you help me how to move apps to sd card? I have tried everything:(.. I've got my gpad rooted with stock ROM.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] techrider6262:
Try folder mount
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] lavahorsecz:
I am using link2sd, it work's but not much as I expected. When I linked 700mb app.. only about 50mb were linked to sd. I expected more, any solution?
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] kayone73:
I own both the 2013 Nexus 7 and the G Pad GPe. They are a near match in speed and performance each tab has its unique advantages over the other:

G Pad:

- larger screen, nicer to read books and web browsing

- sd card expansion: i love the extra storage and using a 64gb sd card I already had

Nexus 7

- better screen brightness (overall brighter throughout the range)

- battery life (drains noticeably slower than G Pad despite having smaller capacity battery)

- a 32gb N7 is noticeably cheaper than the standard Gpad and even more cheaper than the GPe version.

It's a tough decision, the GPad despite being larger is still reasonably compact and can fit in my large hospital scrub pockets, something which a 10" pad cannot. Still debating wether to sell my N7 or not
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tysj:
Pretty much agree with you on every point. I really wanted to like the GPE for the form factor and microSD (really nice to use my 64gb card again) as I thought the Nexus 7 2013 wasn't a large enough real estate difference from my Nexus 5. The battery is REALLY lacking, though, and is a major factor for me. At this rate, it's getting half the battery life of my Nexus 5 even after factory wipes and going bare bones. Probably will end up switching back to the Nexus 7.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Kairoku:
I would definitely recommend the g pad to a friend. In fact I've already recommended it to a few people. At the $250-270 price point it was at when I found it, It was the clear choice and I would recommend it all day long. At the normal $350 price point I'm not so sure, it would probably come down to your preferences for size and power at that point. But I personally feel that 8-8.3" tablets are the golden ratio between screen size and portability.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tsg2513:
Only if battery life isn't an issue for you. I brought mine back to BB last night. With the less than stellar display, I tended to keep my screen at full brightness (which is approx.. 50-60% of my other tablets at the same brightness level) which yielded about 4-5 hours of run-time.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
I seriously don't understand it when people complain about the brightness, especially at anything over 50%...are they blind? I don't mean to be offensive but it boggles my mind. Indoors, I usually keep my screen under 30% (seriously) and have no problem viewing anything. I don't feel like I'm struggling and it's very comfortable. It's only when playing games like Solar 2 where the game is quite dark anyway that I might turn the brightness up but then not more than 50%. Unless you are using your tablet under the full weight of the sun out in the open in the middle of a desert, I don't see how anyone would need to crank it up to 100% or even think that's not bright enough.

I feel it's like how most people use headphones, pump it up so loud that they eventually become so deaf that they need to pump it up even more.

/rant
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cht64bit:
You are right

Inviato dal mio LT25i utilizzando Tapatalk
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tsg2513:
Anyway you slice it, the G Pad still has sub-par battery life.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
That I agree on. And it's a shame. But with this device, although it's an annoyance, it's not a deal breaker because I love everything else about it and as far as I'm concerned, nothing from the competition beats it (at this price range and size factor). I'd rather have a tablet that runs amazingly well and is pleasant to look at it but doesn't last as long than something that I loathe using but can use it for a long time between charges. Of course, everyone has different priorities so that's up to the end user to decide. But I think 4-5 hours is a bit of an exaggeration. Maybe if you're constantly playing games on it but then not many devices would come close to a day without charging if you're doing that.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] afrikanac:
Hello and merry xmas to all. I am a proud owner of toshiba thrive, galaxy tab 2 7 and now Lg Gpad 8.3. After a close watch on all of the forums and reading of all all posts(including custom roms threads of our brave and tallented devs-taking now the chance to thank them all:thumbup:) i will give my comment on this good device.

First of all,as you already know, gpad has terryfic specifications(full Hd screen,ideal 8,3 inch, good material and normal price for its specs) and i beleive that with a small help of all of us , simple android fans and primary our good devs, this device may become one of the best tablets that came in 2013! Sure there are some "minior" negatives, such as: medium sound quality speakers, some negative brightness issuses, small alternative firmware(that i hope it shall change)... in the end it is a promising tablet and i really beleive in it and i recommend it from all my heart(i hope Lg reads this and sends me a gift:))...

Once again i wish to thank our devs for their effort of bringing us some custom roms and root choises.:cool:
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrDeeJay:
Would you recomend this device if it is primarily going to be used for .pdf/ebook reading and watching HD movies?

Its the perfect size for me (nexus is too small and 10" is not that portable) and the resolution seems adequate as well...but im just a bit concerned because i see a lot of complaints that the display/brightness is too dim? which in my opinion could be an issue for reading and watching movies. Havent seen the device in person yet...and i unfortunatelly cant see it in any retail store in my country (Slovenia) as they dont have it anywhere on display. I can only buy it from an online store. Thats why some comments from the people who already own it would be highly appreciated.

Unfortunately since there is no other android 8" tablet with as high pixel density as this one the only other option would be to get a sucky ipad mini retina (which sucks as i hate itunes and the fact that there is no expandable storage and no file system). Unless i wait what sumsung will have prepareved for us in January or February (it is rumored that they will releas a 8" tablet wit a better display than the current Note/Tab).
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] ASW1:
As long as you use it indoors the brightness of the screen is not going to be an issue.

If you want to use it outdoors too in bright daylight this screen certainly has its limitations.

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[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
I use my device for reading quite a lot both indoors and out and feel very comfortable with the display. With movies however, the screen can be a problem when outdoors but definitely no problem indoors. If you're not in a hurry then by all means wait and see what Samsung has in store (their models this year were atrocious though and overpriced) but as is often the case with technology, if you play the waiting game and see if something better comes along, you'd then be waiting an eternity.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] DrDeeJay:
Ok thanks guys...i will mostly use it indoors (at home or on a train) so i guess it should be fine for that purpose.

I`ll wait if there are any new better devices announced at CES in the beginning January...otherwise i will definately buy it...as you pointed out otherwise i will indefinitely be searching and waiting for the perfect device ;)

I just hope someone will figure out how to port an GPE Rom as i hate LGs skin and i want the stock experiance which is unfortunately not available in Europe (shame on you Google!)
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindspin_311:
Im having trouble deciding between LG and Google versions. Newegg sells it for $300, which I could have Best Buy price match, then use the $90 in gift cards I have. So $210 for a LG version.

Or, $350 for the Google version and just use the BB GCs for something else.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] clemson77on:
I bought my LG G Pad from Newegg and put the Mahdi ROM on it: http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2581988

I really don't know what could be better that this. The thing flies and I haven't had a single issue with it. I'm extremely happy.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindspin_311:
Yep, I know I could always flash a 4.4 ROM and be done, it would be nice to not really have to deal with that :/
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
With a price difference like that, I just can't imagine how anyone would hate the LG ROM enough not to get that instead. Mine is blazingly fast and I have no complaints. I also really like the look and feel of it but then that's subjective. Also, according to the review from Android Central, it seems that the stock Android experience is not exactly perfect for a device of this particular size range:

http://www.androidcentral.com/lg-g-pad-83-google-play-edition-review

For me, going with V500 is a no brainer especially with a $140 difference!
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Mindspin_311:
Yep, that totally makes sense. I used a bone stock Optimus G for a year, so Im used to the LG skin, and I honestly dont think it is that bad.

Now that I have the N5, all I want is stock haha
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] marcolorenzo:
For me, I prefer to have stock on my phone because I want it to just be smooth and work. Stock Android is the best bet for that. But on my tablet, I want more of an "experience" if you know what I mean. The Nexus 7 for example just looks boring (hardware and software). Of course, I would never sacrifice performance for this "experience" which is why it's nice that LG's stock rom runs so smoothly.
[G Pad 8.3 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] C0BRA01:
I am using the CM11 ROM 12-31 nightly. Everything works great, and the games run way faster than they did on the stock ROM. Highly recommend using FolderMount with it if you are going to play games on it. It moves the game data to the SD card. Saves a ton of space.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tampicojim:
I have a SX66 with cingular. For the most part it works fine. No major problems except it only has Media Player 9

I've read a lot of the threads regarding WM5 and it loooks great but all the talk of porblems and turning cells into paperweights has me afraid to make the jump.

two questions,, is WM5 near completion of development???

Is there a way to get Windows Media Player 10 on the SX66?
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] Triband81:
If there is a way to get WM10 on a Windows Mobile 2003 device, then there must be a trick since officially there is no upgrade option available to WM10 through WindowsMedia.com.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] johnk1973:
I can't see why you want to upgrade?! I have WM10 and i don't use it, i find i can't assign actions to buttons, no matter what device i've used. It's a pain to use compared to WM9. I use TCPMP, much better and free too!

It supports more sound types and movie types.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tampicojim:
media player 9 will not stream the live media. All the places i go, say it requires media player 10
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] johnk1973:
You could try TCPMP, although i haven't tried it i'm think it plays some types of streaming media. It's just a matter of assigning file types to TCPMP, done within the program.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] 3waygeek:
Rather than upgrade to WM5, go to the SX66 Standardization Project and download the latest ROMs for your device; they're customized for the SX66 (both Cingular/AT&T variants) and include support for WMP10.

As a bonus, you'll get improved WiFi & BT performance.
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tampicojim:
3waygeek. thanks.. sent you a few questions in a PM's... still reading all the info on the site...
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tampicojim:
i downloaded all three of the updates and it is working like a charm... THANKS!!!!!!
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tampicojim:
Again, thanks 3waygeek

check out my siggie NOW :D :lol:
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] cdaly1970:
Tampicojim,

Gald to hear it's working for you...

-Chris

BTW - I just added System 1.42.00 and a beta EXT ROM (1.42.126) to the site. So yeah... I'm back.... 8)
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] tampicojim:
Chris

What does the latest system add?? I dont think i have the heart to try beta on my phone :(
[MDA III, XDA III, PDA2k, 9090 Software Upgrading] cdaly1970:
The 1.42.00 system is the latest build of the Windows mobile 2003 environment. When MS does the build, they include the latest in the OS patches they have. No, as to what is in it exactly, your guess is as good as mine. I've noticed no differences over 1.40.00.

-Chris