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[Galaxy S 4 General] D4RKL04RD:
I have a short question, if you change the stock rom its recovery with philz, put root on it and than flash it via odin will it still trip the bootloader?
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I didn't understand.... Put what you would say step by step, it'll be clearer. Thanks!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I added some questions / answers that might perhaps inform you!
[Galaxy S 4 General] wackygoose:
sorry to be asking this again, but I still didnt get it hehe...

Im not rooted but im on MKE already, how do I get root & custom recovery without kingo? Is it possible?

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[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
You can have the both but with the knox at 0x1 only.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I've added a link with a method in pictures in the OP post for the rooting. If it can help you.
[Galaxy S 4 General] wackygoose:
Thanks Franzy, I didnt want to use Kingo but I managed to do it using CF-AutoRoot. My device had 0x1 anyways hehe :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
OK
[Galaxy S 4 General] JFV93:
I used Kindo on 4.3 TPH MK9 and Worked well, Knox 0x0 =D
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Thanks for the report! ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] zackwire:
f*** it! stopped being paranoid and just rooted it sucessfully on XXUEMKE firmware...knox is 0x0 and superuser is working great.

there is any custom recovery that is safe to flash without trippin knox? i don´t think so but, i have to ask...

And another thing...disabling Knox trough this supersu pop up will trio Knox to 0x1?
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I don't know a custom recovery that prevents knox to switch to 0x1.

If you disable knox, it isn't going to 0x1.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zackwire:
I can't turn the wifi on after root...it worked for some time but no longer does. any ideas?

EDIT: nevermind, pulling the battery solved it.

but, the battery drain is huge after root...installed wakelock app to see what is causing it and there's nothing wrong. :/
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Perhaps due to the 4.3! Some people have got this issue with.
[Galaxy S 4 General] D4RKL04RD:
Use it till 0% and leave it off for 10 minutes, than put it in the charger and turn it on, let it charge to 100% and than you will have ur phone fixed, worked for my battery :)
[Galaxy S 4 General] zackwire:
will try this tonight. thanks buddy!
[Galaxy S 4 General] imtheyoyo:
Just root my phone on stock XXUEMKE and my flag knox stay at 0x0. All is working fine. Merci

Envoyé de mon GT-I9505 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Good!
[Galaxy S 4 General] Shai38:
If I root my Galaxy s4 and unroot it after, Can I still root my S4 with the Kingo software?
[Galaxy S 4 General] imtheyoyo:
If you root your s4 , why do you want unroot it ? I don't understand...

Envoyé de mon GT-I9505 en utilisant Tapatalk
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Not sure! I gonna see if it's possible.

For example, if you want send it to the SAV.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
After to have read again my first post, I saw this Question/ Answer in the F.A.Q

I think that's answer to your question, you can't!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] OrionBG:
Just to report that I've successfully rooted MK9 firmware using Kingo and Knox flag is still 0x0
[Galaxy S 4 General] Kaibosh:
Attempted option #2 (Odin Mobile) to go from 4.2.2 to 4.3.. Updated and rooted, but no wifi and sound.. Noticed that going into download mode didn't show the Knox warranty flag..

Flashed 4.3 with (regular) Odin (MK9 - latest official Australian unbranded), and then used Kingo.. All good now, and Knox warranty flag is 0x0.

So in order for the S4 to be more secure, Samsung enforce Knox.. But because I want to root my own phone, and ensure that I'm not potentially completely screwed should I require warranty service, I've had to use a 3rd party program (that opinion seems to be a bit iffy on) that I never would have even considered using before now since I'd have used the very much trusted methods like CF Auto Root. Fantastic work Samsung..
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Thanks for your report!

I'm agree with you. I'll add that, Samsung is almost as dodgy as Apple. :(:crying:
[Galaxy S 4 General] roote223:
Will this work on the T-Mobile GS4 M919 with the 4.3 M919UVUEMK2?
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I don't know, I have no return for this model, perhaps but I don't prefer to tell you yes without know.
[Galaxy S 4 General] DarkHunter:
Rooting with Kingo worked like a charm for me on MKE.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Cool, and apparently, kingo would work up to MKF, I will check this info and will update my tutorial if this is the case.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Confirmed!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Added the step 2 in pictures in the fourth post!
[Galaxy S 4 General] WRXRB320:
If it worked for MK9 then would it work for MK8?
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Normally yes!
[Galaxy S 4 General] ichibantokkan:
i need some help, i have a s4 i9505 from vodafone Portugal, and i want to root but i'm afraid to trip my knox counter

it have android 4,3 and it is MK9 can i root with kingo and it won't mess the knox??

cheers
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
It should normally do it with the latest version. But if you're afraid to do it, I will not force you in anyway.
[Galaxy S 4 General] NIK3SH:
Knox counter will be triggered only if you flash anything using PC ODIN in DOWNLOAD MODE.

And this app exploit and inject SU binaries using USB DEBUGGING parameter so it won't trigger knox...

But I recommend not to use this tool as it is collecting some sensitive personal data as well device IMEI number and send them to their server in China while rooting procedure, which is obviously Suspicious...

Kindly Google "kingo malware" for more information....
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
It must not be worse than espionage nasa.
[Galaxy S 4 General] NIK3SH:
Espionaging may be another part.

Presently we even don't know which parameters it's installing or modifying in device.

Apart from inserting su binary and pushing supersu.apk it's also changing device recovery which is neither listed in their documentation nor it's giving warning users while usage...

As well you are also aware about their silence when XDA asked kingo developers, WHY THEY ARE COLLECTING DEVICE IMEI NUMBERS ON THEIR SERVER ?

If they are clear and genuine then they should answer this thing .....

Our task is to aware users about this all.

Now it's users choice to use it or not.

And come on buddy by grabbing EFS folder I think it's damn easy to clone the device...

Also exploiting any keylogger in device can grab your all keystrokes.

You know very well where I'm pointing...
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
You shouldn't be paranoid! Do you have any concrete evidence that you advertise? Everyone is presumed innocent until proven guilty ... This is also the reason why this thread is still open. The day it will be shown that this is true, I ask myself that this thread is closed, and its content is eradicated.

I read here that the IMEI wouldn't be a problem with a new version (I said maybe).

As for the EFS folder, you should know like me, you do not need that to be able to change.

If you want to make a petition against the Kingo application, why do not you have a thread in the general section? To make an anti-Kingo petition ... But PLEASE, stop pollute this one!!

I only report of a method that works for root his phone. It is not my fault if Samsung has decided to be as closed as Apple.

Thanks for your comprehension!!!!
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I can however put a warning in the OP!
[Galaxy S 4 General] NIK3SH:
I didn't know you'll take it Personally.

Sorry if it hurts your feelings.

I just wanted to warn users about app's behavior.

Because in feature if the software found malicious or if they misuse the collected data, THEN I DON'T WANT "YOU" TO BE BLAMED....

And regarding your link, in that you can also see, moderator didn't said that app is clean, verified and safe to use.

They are still analyzing it's behaviour by contacting their developers and asking reason why did they collected IMEI.

And regarding new version that it ain't collecting IMEI, we can not take guarantee that they won't do it again. If they can remove it, they can add it again too, without any prior notice obviously.

In last, if you think I'm polluting your thread, I won't post anything in this thread from now onwards.

After all I'm a simple user not a XDA MODERATOR...

Have a Nice Time...
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
The reason, this one:

I put a Warning in the OP, so now people will do or not while being aware of the possible dangers ..
[Galaxy S 4 General] rubiks01:
Currently download links are not allowing until it can be confirmed that they modified their software to stop collecting IMEI numbers. Waiting for a moderator...
[Galaxy S 4 General] KennyG123:
First off this does not belong in development, especially not Original Development unless you are the author of Kingo Root

If so, I believe we have some questions ;)

Moved to General

Second, Kingo root links are currently not allowed until it is confirmed they have removed the IMEI collecting.

So links removed. Please google the app if you wish to risk it.

Thanks

Friendly Neighborhood Senior-Mod
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I'm not the author of Kingo Root. Another moderator had already given his opinion, and had left the thread for non foundation. But hey, I will not discuss your decision. In addition, I have given myself my opinion on that.. Made with what you have to do. Anyway, as you say, friend google is there for those who want to take the plunge.

That's all!
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Adding a few lines for the root, including a precaution.
[Galaxy S 4 General] EclipseX:
Mk9 have risks? The last tph
[Galaxy S 4 General] kuijkens:
Can't regret more that I have updated my 9505 to Android 4.3 and would very much like to root it without tripping knox.

Currently on buildnumber MKF.

Are there any updates on the Kingoapp?

They seem to update their app weekly.

Do people have experience rooting their device with knox lately?
[Galaxy S 4 General] maarvi:
Check out safe alternative to Kingo. I rooted smoothly my s4 9505 without tripping flag. It doesn't need to go online. http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2565758

Wysłane z mojego GT-I9505 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy S 4 General] umberto.sulla:
What fw version you have on your s4 9505.

I see that the thread you linked is abaut american devices.

Thanks

Umberto
[Galaxy S 4 General] kuijkens:
It is indeed for the Verizon VRUEMJ7, MK2.

But users reported it works for other deives/firmware as well.

Besides that, if it fails it will not trigger knox and you will be able te unroot/uninstall everything done by the script.

Sounds pretty safe to me, going to give it a try.

I will let you know in a couple of minutes.

---------- Post added at 11:19 AM ---------- Previous post was at 11:01 AM ----------

I can confirm this methods works for the GT-I9505 running on MKF!

Rooted, no knox triggered.

Thanks!
[Galaxy S 4 General] maarvi:
It works well on international 9505. My firmware is right now 4.3 MK8 / CSC:XEO debranded from 4.3 MKF.
[Galaxy S 4 General] umberto.sulla:
Thank you

I will try this method in next days... then I want to flash kitkat through mobile Odin to preserve root ...

The problem is that I am on ML6 ...
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Hi,

I've added an other method in the OP post

This one given by Kuijkens
[Galaxy S 4 General] djmik21:
This method works for me.

My question is now that i have root rights can i uninstall (with titanium) some bloatware by samsung?
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I don't see why you couldn't, the root is used to that, right? :cool:
[Galaxy S 4 General] djmik21:
Sorry i mean if theres any chance to trip knox?
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
The dude said, no. But like he also emits some disclaimers.
[Galaxy S 4 General] zackwire:
anyone tried this new method on the leaked 4.4.2 stock rom?
[Galaxy S 4 General] djmik21:
It will probably not work as the kernel won't be supported.
[Galaxy S 4 General] maarvi:
Given by Kuijkens? :)

Wysłane z mojego GT-I9505 przy użyciu Tapatalka
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Yeah, the link for the saferoot, I gonna correct it in the OP post.
[Galaxy S 4 General] maarvi:
Thanks. You'll satisfy my vanity. Cheers.
[Galaxy S 4 General] latouffe:
Will it works if i have the MK9 version? :/
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gachmuret:
Will Knox work with root?

Hi there,

Two questions :confused: :

1. I understood that it won't trigger Knox, but will Knox work normally after being rooted and doesn't SuperSU get blocked by Knox? (Because I really like the idea of having a safe pw protected area for private or sensitive data and use Knox for that, but also need to have root access)

2. Does it work without triggering Knox Warranty Void for my Rom:

Baseband version, AP and CP: I9505XXUEMKF and CSC: I9505AUTEML1 ( the CSC is that I worry about, as I read MKF should work)?

Thx for your help!
[Galaxy S 4 General] spamtrash:
use EFS from google play/
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gachmuret:
Sorry, but I didn't get your point... you mean EFS backup/restore tools? How is that connected with Knox and root?

Or is there anything I missed?!

:good: Thx anyway for your help and quick reply!

PS: I found this: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=nl.boris.efs&hl=de
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
1/ Normally, you can choose to don't block the knox with superSU, app asks you at a moment.

2/ Yes, it has already been said.
[Galaxy S 4 General] nialap:
Rooted ! Version I9505XXUEMKF. This method looks safer to me than Kingo... ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] spamtrash:
Sorry, my bl...dy kreyboard:(

I meant: EDS. I use it for encrypted storage & data keeping. Benefit: it is compatible with the TrueCrypt (compatibility of containers).
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Thanks! ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] ichibantokkan:
i have gt-i9505 from vodafone Portugal with mk9 version, can i use the saferrot method with no worries?? :good:
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gachmuret:
Thx for the tipp, will try it! :good:

I meant just the opposite: I know that it won't trigger the Knox Warranty Void (it stays 0x0), but will the Knox software allow to enter in the secure area when the device is rooted? :rolleyes:

Guess I'll try it by myself and give some state when It's done (will take some days as I'm very busy right now)
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Exactly, like I said, it proposes to stop it or not. :cool:
[Galaxy S 4 General] cezaralboiu:
How can i root my i9505 CSC, CP and AP version ML1 without triping knox? Kingo app is not working and either saferoot because when i try to root it, i have a notification that an unauthoriset app is trying to access the system and it's blocking it. Thanks in advance:D
[Galaxy S 4 General] ongbac:
Will I be able to fully unroot after doing this root? Like reverting everything back to it's previous status before doing this method (knox 0x0, official status). For example by reflashing the stock firmware?

Thank you
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Try to follow correctly the tutorial. Normally, it should work. Others persons have successfull.

I think that's like the habitual root, you should re-put the official statut with Triangle away and flash an stock rom with ODIN.

You can remove it like that. But, it seems me you must make it with Linux.

Enter adb shell from your pc:

su
mount -o remount,rw /system
mv /system/etc/init.qcom.modem_links.sh.bin /system/etc/init.qcom.modem_links.sh
rm -rf /system/etc/safestrap
rm /system/etc/firmware/q6.mdt
ln -s /firmware/image/q6.mdt /system/etc/firmware/q6.mdt
mount -o remount,ro /system

Otherwise, I've added some links to put a custom recovery (Safestrap) and also a video for that. All is in the OP post.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ongbac:
So basically after I use this method, my device status will be Custom?

Thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] cezaralboiu:
Believe me.. it's not working. I tried with all the methods but i have the same message:(. Can anyone confirm that they can root ML1 or higher(ML6,ML9, etc.) Without tripping knox? If yes, please pm me and tell me what you have done
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I think yes but I report just a method. It seems functionnal.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
For these versions, you should perhaps wait an update. Or try to return on an old version 4.3. If you return on an old 4.3, certainly no risks of brick.
[Galaxy S 4 General] cezaralboiu:
And if i downgrade, will i tripp my knox? Are you sure?
[Galaxy S 4 General] caskas:
Saferoot , not working for me also, 4.3TMN(Portugal) ML2

Guess I´ll have to wait for updates.:crying:
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I'm not sure, but if you switch to a 4.3 firmware since another 4.3, even older, I do not think it really downgraded. To check of course.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Or check if what I say to cezaralboiu works.
[Galaxy S 4 General] ichibantokkan:
Caskas i'm from Vodafone Portugal and my build version is mk9, TMN doesnt have the same one?
[Galaxy S 4 General] caskas:
So I can go up and down with versions, if they are all 4.3? hmmm...

Maybe i´ll take the risk..

Thx

yep, its diferent
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Take your time! I'll try to see to my side.
[Galaxy S 4 General] kuijkens:
Do NOT downgrade once you are at android 4.3 with locked bootloader.

Trying this will void your KNOX waranty and mess up your device.

Please read all about it in this thread (last couple of pages people have been reporting about downgrading):

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2447832&page=185
[Galaxy S 4 General] m3w0lff:
Is it worth it to throw guarantee and root S4

wonder after many of my experiments with phones, my own roms for several models and so on

S4 has enough things

yes, depends on what will be used

if one is a flash maniac that's another matter
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Even of a 4.3 to another 4.3? I wonder, I didn't see it yet.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
For me, the root is the minimum necessary.
[Galaxy S 4 General] m3w0lff:
Yes

I think so now, and this was my previous post
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
I found that. to know if it's good.
[Galaxy S 4 General] caskas:
So it worked for me,

what I did was:

Flash I9505XXUEMK9_I9505OXXEMK3_TPH ( I want the STOCK 4.3 Stock JB)

Use the Saferoot and done!

I was on ML2 :) 4.3
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
So you could go back to an older version 4.3 from a newer 4.3.
[Galaxy S 4 General] yuuuuuuuu:
What should I do if I encounter the wifi/sound issues that have been reported on 4.3?
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Put Fix Wi-Fi that is done for it.
[Galaxy S 4 General] latouffe:
And there is any sound issues fixes?
[Galaxy S 4 General] kuijkens:
That fix is supposed to fix all of the problems: sound/wifi/bluetooth/gos etc
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Yes normally.
[Galaxy S 4 General] d0ce:
thanks
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
Hit the 'Thanks' button dude... that avoids useless posts!

Thanks 4 ur comprehension! ;)
[Galaxy S 4 General] ozzyblack:
Im on the latest s4 leak. 4.4.2. Can i use this.
[Galaxy S 4 General] franzyroy:
For Saferoot, I know it doesn't work for I9505XXUENA4 (last Android 4.3), so I don't believe it works for the 4.4.2. You should have to wait an update for that.

For Kingo, it works with I9505XXUEMKF, I don't know for I9505XXUENA4, so I don't know either for the 4.4.2. Certainly same that for Saferoot, wait an update.

For the both, you can still try without risking anything.
[Galaxy S 4 General] Gachmuret:
Upgrade rooted knox 0x0 to latest Kitkat?

Hi there,

On the original french thread here it is confirmed that upgrading to I9505XXUFNA5 4.4.2 Kitkat pre-release rom rooted with knox 0x0 is successful with latest MOP 4.1+.

FAQ overthere:

But is it also working for latest I9505XXUFNC4 kitkat release?

Thx for any replies and confirmations!
[Galaxy S 4 General] slickric21:
Can somebody direct me to this fix or explain what it is ?

I want to update to 4.4.2 NB8 (from 4.3 MK9) - keeping saferoot, but have read reports of those who have lost wifi and had keyboard problems in doing so.

I see that the instructions here for the Note 3 describe flashing the stock CSC.tar at the end of the process to avoid such problems, but cant find any similar info for us S4 users.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dvn2008:
I have just bought a SanDisk Ultra microSDHC 32GB UHS-1, but I noticed the transfer speed seems to be rather slow. So installed the SD Card Tester tool and run a test. On average, the writing speed is about 8 MB/s and reading speed is about 11.5 MB/s this is no where near the 30 MB/s speed mentioned for a UHS-1 card.

I also have a 2 GB microSD card of unknown brand (made in China) that I got for free when I bought my Blackberry Gemini. Surprisingly the test result is slightly better, writing speed is 9.97 MB/s and reading speed 12.21 MB/s.

I bought the SanDisk microSD card at a major computer store, so I believe the card is genuine.

My question is, is there any speed limitation on Galaxy Note 2 hardware for reading/writing to a microSD card to an extent that buying a class 10 or UHS-1 card is pretty much useless?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] devil_slayer:
have you tried speed testing both on pc ??
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dvn2008:
Not yet, my PC is really old does not have a card reader slot. I will need to get one external card reader.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hielko:
With a class 10 card I get 15 Mb/s write and 33 Mb/s read.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] dvn2008:
which card brand and model?

what tool did you use to test the speed?

was the card formatted in Android or Windows?
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xon86:
A1 sd bench

Try using A1 sd bench, from play store.

I get better better speeds using that with the same cardas you.
[Galaxy Note II Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hielko:
Transcend 16 gb.

Tested with the same tool as you used.

Formatted with android as I remember well.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Runner1409:
Hi all,

First of all, I want to make it clear that I am a new Android and tablet user, so the following questions and issues will sound completely stupid to some of you.

For about 10 years now, I have been using PC's and windows to get what I needed... but now I thought I would make a change.

One of the things I need from any device I use is complete control over what is going on (like disabling certain services and programs that run in the background to get more performance) and access to customization features.

What I hate about this tablet (first tablet I ever used) is that because of all the crapware that Samsung installs with the OS, after 2 months, my apps are running a lot slower.

So... here os the question:

How can I install a fresh copy of Android 4.2.2 with drivers (I don't know if they're needed...)? Just so you understand, I want to do with this tablet what I do when I buy a new laptop: format to ger rid of all the crap and install a fresh copy of Windows with drivers and after that install the programs that I need.

Thanks.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Android-Andi:
go into settings and do a factoryreset.
[Galaxy Tab 2 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Runner1409:
I may be a noob, but I am not stupid.... factory reset function just restores the OS to it's original state... including all the crappy software that I don't want or need.