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[LG Optimus G Pro] tomi001:
Hey guys

What i ask now doesnt fit in this thread but nobody answers me.

I really need the backup file of the stock rom because i want to go back from CM to stock.

It would be very nice when you would upload of the original rom the backup file from cwm :)
[LG Optimus G Pro] pallcsa:
It is so good to hear that e986 is supported now. :) Can you confirm that it actually works ?
[LG Optimus G Pro] danger2u:
yes working great
[LG Optimus G Pro] pallcsa:
Thank you :good:
[LG Optimus G Pro] lg-user45:
With a little search you should found it.

No need to upload it, you find all here

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2438088

But this you cant flash via cwm. Just go back to stock as explained in the thread, root and install freegee ,then make a backup via cwm and then flash customroms. So you have your stock rom to fkash back via cwm

May have a look here too

http://xdaforums.com/showthread.php?t=2420219
[LG Optimus G Pro] tomi001:
Ok, thank you :)
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] mackaby007:
Does anybody know of any alternative dialler skins 4 Wizard?
[8125, K-JAM, P4300, MDA Vario Software Upgrading] tomsphone:
Hi,

Found this thread

http://xdaforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=35631&start=25

Use the link at the bottom.
[Nexus 5 General] FunkyMagic-UK:
Settings, Apps, All, Google Service Framework.

Force Stop, Clear Data.

Then check for update in About Phone.

Then repeat these steps, and the update shows up on the second check. Repeated this on 3 phones to get 4.4.2 where 4.4.1 hadn't even popped up previously.

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Note, this procedure is to be followed at your own risk. I have completed this successfully on 3 x Nexus 5 from v4.4, however I can not test all scenarios or be responsible for any subsequent issues, whether related to this method or not. If you cant accept this, then wait for the OTA.
[Nexus 5 General] fireb33:
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/1...to-never-clear-google-service-framework-data/
[Nexus 5 General] Synyster06Gates:
No. We already had a long thread about this. Please have a mod close this.

And not to sound rude - but if you're uncomfortable with sideload, you probably shouldn't have a Nexus.
[Nexus 5 General] FunkyMagic-UK:
I don't believe the Dan M statement is wholly accurate, given I've thoroughly checked the issues he says might arise.

I suspect it's more a case of him protecting Googles roll out schedule planning with a plausible explanation.

Not sure why someone not comfortable with sideloads shouldn't have a Nexus... it's just a regular consumer phone like any other.
[Nexus 5 General] Synyster06Gates:
1. If someone who writes the code for Google tells you not to do something and gives you a list of reasons, I would suggest listening. As pointed out in the thread it can cause problems and it isn't always something you notice.

2. Because there is no danger in sideloading. It will either work or refuse to flash.

3. It's a Nexus. It's meant for that kind of thing. It's EXTREMELY easy.

4. If they aren't comfortable with sideloading, they probably wouldn't know whether or not their device had an issue after the update. They could miss out on certain features, apps not functioning properly, etc. You are essentially telling someone computer illiterate that they should do something that could potentially mess something up on their device instead of doing something that is fool-proof. That's irresponsible. Not to mention - they wouldn't even know how to fix it if it did damage anything
[Nexus 5 General] crachel:
What do you mean you've thoroughly checked? You've isolated and tested the behavior of every single app that uses GCM after a framework data clear?

I mean, you are essentially accusing an Android engineer of taking to reddit to lie.. but why? Considering they have provided an officially supported method of sideloading OTA updates the idea they are "protecting roll out schedule planning" is total nonsense.

There are only 2 possible scenarios here

1) Dan Morrill is being 100% truthful

2) Instead of simply disabling the "Clear Data" button in Framework which would be dead simple, Google has chosen to send engineers to social media to spread lies and misinformation
[Nexus 5 General] samomamo:
I upgraded from 4.4 to 4.4.2 with 0 problems , if Google says don't sideload what u gonna do no side load?
[Nexus 5 General] Dani897:
seriously sideload is about the easiest way to do it other than being able to download it direct to the phone and parse the sdcard like the way phones used to work... i know windows machines and that whole "driver" thing you guys need to deal with can get annoying but it's really not difficult. if you are afriad of command prompts then wait the 2 weeks or so that it takes to get it rolled out.
[Nexus 5 General] Cirkustanz:
People spend a good amount of time on making instructional threads, gathering information all in one place, doing everything in their power to make it easy for even a complete beginner to do stuff with their phones, and we still have people wanting them to do it the harder way.

And then they defend their thinking with some ridicilous conspiracy theory that completely contradicts the very nature of how Google DEMONSTRATES that they are 100% behind people sideloading (ie: taking the all of 30 seconds it takes to do) an upate onto their phone) by implying that they have a vested interest in slowing down the number of activations?

Seriously now.
[Nexus 5 General] planoman:
You people crack me up. Before this person from google said do not do this we ALL did it multiple time on multiple devices at least I did. No core meltdowns... yet.

remember these are the same people who thought the Nexus 5 camera was good to go as is...
[Nexus 5 General] Tony_YYZ:
It's not worth your time trying to explain this. There are those who will always believe they are right. They will continue to ignore knowledge provided by those who are experts on the matter and believe they are right.

The most common excuse I read is "I've been doing it for so long without any issues". The technical explanation clearly states that the issues that happen are more often than not invisible to the user. Then they'll take to XDA to create a bunch of threads about "OMGZZZZ MY PHONE IS BROKEZORZ, GOOGLE IS TURNING INTO APPLE...RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE" and not even think that the issues might be related to breaking GCM in an app or similar.
[Nexus 5 General] Grims:
Who cares if it can be bad. It can often be easier than sideloading, especially if you don't have a computer near by. I did it while waiting for my plane the other day and it was nice to have the camera improvements before I got to my destination. Just plan to do a factory reset after you get the update if it bothers you.

Not to mention, I am fairly sure whenever you install Google Apps after installing a dirty flashing an updated ROM it does the same thing as clearing data on the framework. I have certain apps I always have to reinstall or they stop getting push updates after doing that.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
I don't want to progress yet another thread about this within two days, but I completely agree with your last point. I bet half of the people that do this will post on here in about a week saying their apps aren't syncing/working and "nexus 5 sucks" etc etc. I've already responded to someone who was asking about his gmail not syncing properly on 4.4.2. I asked him if he cleared the framework to get the update. Would be a great example if that's why he's having the problem.
[Nexus 5 General] Synyster06Gates:
That's not the point. He's not telling people who are familiar with these phones to do it. He's telling people who have no idea what the hell they are doing to do it.
[Nexus 5 General] HOXnoo8:
Alright, the real question here is after someone has cleared the framework, is there a way to recover or go back without restoring a backup or reflashing an OTA from scratch? Or does it just take time for Google to catch up? And DO they eventually catch up to the device? Or is it inevitably doomed once you clear. We can argue about why or why not, but lets figure out how.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Love how people jump on this guy or the one from yesterday who posted it. Been doing this on my past 4 devices. If something clears, wouldn't it be like hard resetting your device. All the information will get populated back. I also believe the engineer said there is a possibility something can go wrong. There is always the possibility something can go wrong with anything!

You can screw up your phone just taking an OOTO. People just need to let it go. We also do not know what his true intentions were for saying that.

If you do not want to clear data, then don't but don't tell others not to do it unless anyone here has experienced a problem first hand in doing so.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
It is not a question of 'if'. If you clear the services framework, Gmail notifications are 100% guaranteed to stop working for a time (could be 10 minutes, could be several days). Thankfully, Gmail is one of the few apps that will eventually realize the GCM id has changed and is able to deal with it. That is not the case for other apps.

The problem is people here don't see their phone or apps crashing and think everything is fine. But a week later they realize stuff isn't syncing or notifications aren't coming in and they blame it on the software update.
[Nexus 5 General] elspanish88:
Again?? REALLY!! Google say no, like it or not they are the experts...
[Nexus 5 General] muyoso:
His true intentions were to stop people from potentially messing up their phones and then ignorantly going online or on an apps review page and spouting off about how broken the app or phone is. To think differently makes no sense.
[Nexus 5 General] dicecuber:
I am stuck in boot loop with this method

Sent from **Nexus 5 signal sucks**
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
I did it the right way even on my N4 and never had a single problems with any app ever and I have a ton of them. People need to chill out about the framework method and let people do what they want with their phones.
[Nexus 5 General] hotleadsingerguy:
This post is ridiculous, and exactly the reason why XDA gets a bad rap.

Having a Nexus has nothing to do with wanting to customize things. Some people want a Nexus because they want a stock experience and enjoyable hardware.

What you should have said is, "If you're uncomfortable with sideload, you probably shouldn't be looking for alternative ways of updating".
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
Thank you for this, I am the guy from yesterday lmao. I remember you from the first week shipping threads for the N5, always spoke with sense.

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Tell me some apps that you think would or will be affected by it, because I did it on my N4 back then and went over 6 months with not a single issue with MANY apps on my phone that are popular and use push notifications...
[Nexus 5 General] GSLEON3:
Actually, all you have to do is go into the settings & devices from Play Store, or Google Cloud Print or Wallet, or etc... & you will see that many, many times a new device is registered every time you reset the GSF/GSM data.

In fact, one of my coworkers was having issues yesterday with Cloud Print & he had been resetting the GSF data because he still hadn't received 4.4.1. We logged into his GC account & his Nexus 5 was registered 38 times. No joke, THIRTY EIGHT times. So, you may not notice issues it causes because you use your device differently than me, or him, or anyone, but believe me, it can & does cause issues.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Please show me an example of someones Gmail that has stopped working for days because of this method. Now we are just making crap up. I cleared services just for the heck of it and got a gmail notification within a minute.

Let's stop spreading this non sense already. No one here can show any proof of doing this has borked their device.

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It doesn't matter how many times your device registers. What if you hard reset your device? Shoud we not do that either?
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
I

I love how you completely disregarded the part where he said his co-worker had issues with cloud print. Not everyone uses their phone the same way. Maybe you don't use apps that this will cause problems for, but who are you to say that you tried every single app in the play store and made sure it didn't affect anything. Your whole argument is that we shouldn't tell people not to do it. But who are you to tell people to do it when it clearly causes problems to SOME phones.
[Nexus 5 General] enkode:
paranoid pansies

Worked like a charm. And I'm comfortable using sideload!

Despite the warnings of Cthulhu rising from the depths if I cleared my Services Framework data, I opted this route because I am a renegade. Reckless and free.

Oh, and if I had "broke" my Nexus, I'd fix it.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
That's great that you can fix it. But the point I'm trying to make, as well as a few others, is that the people who do mess up something by using this method and don't know how to fix it will end up coming here and asking for help. This could be avoided by just waiting for the update, if they don't want to sideload it.
[Nexus 5 General] laker666:
It hasn't broke anyone's phone as of yet so what's the big deal? If clearing the framework works (it has for me since nexus s) then who cares?
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Like anything here, use at your own risk.

I love how the haters are the people who constantly flash custom Roms not knowing what works and what doesn't. Running a Rom that can probably cause so many issues that people do not know about. Even running Roms with known issues and they still choose to run it but then we have these same people telling the folks here not to do something because something might now work.

Oh how I love the irony here.

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Or they can be stuck on 4.4.1 with issues that Google introduced while waiting for the OTA update to 4.4.2. So who knows what being on 4.4.1 is doing to their phone in a negative way. Can't be good considering Google pushed 4.4.2 so quickly after. So pick your poison.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
I actually don't flash ROMs anymore. I was using a stable version of CM10 on my S3 and it still had a few serious bugs. That's why I decided I just get a Nexus. The thing is though, when you're flashing a ROM hopefully the person knows what they are doing, or at least know the risks of using a ROM with bugs and issues. The people posting this method aren't giving a disclaimer (Yes, I know the person yesterday added a disclaimer after all of the people arguing on the thread). It's also very easy to do, unlike the whole process of rooting the phone, finding a compatible version of a ROM, etc. etc.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
I never said stopped working. I do wonder if people here even read the posts sometimes. I said push notifications. They are guaranteed to stop working. Just clear the data again and see if you get push notifications to gmail.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Not getting pushed notifications in Gmail would qualify Gmail as not working correctly. Now if you can read I have asked you to show me examples from people who have cleared services and then have had their Gmail push notifications stop working for days. Like I said, stop spreading crap that isn't true.

If you clear out your data and cache from gmail everything will stop working until it syncs up again. Should you not do that either if you are having problems with Gmail?

There really is no longer a point to even argue this. If you want to do it then do it, if not then don't but don't start spreading false rumors and saying things will take days to sync up unless you come back with proof of that.

Here are words directly from Dan Morrill

"Doing this changes the primary ID by which Google knows your device. As far as the servers are concerned, the device was basically factory reset."

Last time I checked there was nothing wrong with doing a factory reset. He also claimed you would need to re-log back into the Play Store. Nope, didn't need to that....
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
I never said Gmail wouldn't work. Again, try reading my posts. And if you want examples, how about searching XDA. I'm not going to do it for you.
[Nexus 5 General] eman3316@optonline.net:
Let's move on.

You should go flash a Rom or something because those are usually guaranteed to work for ya.
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
Eman has a lot more XDA street cred than you so stfu

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Amen
[Nexus 5 General] aavvaallooss:
Once again!!!

Doing this changes the primary ID by which Google knows your device. As far as the servers are concerned, the device was basically factory reset. There are many downstream effects of this, but a big one is that this invalidates the tokens used by any app that uses GCM (which is nearly all the Google apps, and a ton of third-party apps.)

How apps react to GCM IDs changing varies by app. With Play Store you have to log out and log back in, I think Gmail usually handles it transparently eventually but won't get new mail notifications for a while, etc. Some apps you may have to clear data on to recover. All apps will simply stop getting GCM push-messages, until they get a new GCM ID; some do this frequently, others rarely, and some apps use the GCM ID as an ID on their own servers (as it is opaque and basically random), so other things besides push messages may not work.

Nothing bursts into flames, but it makes a ton of nuisances on the device, including some that can look pretty mysterious. Your mileage will vary depending on what apps you use.

All of this can be avoided by just doing an 'adb sideload' if you are impatient. -Dan Morrill

https://plus.google.com/+DanMorrill/about
[Nexus 5 General] FunkyMagic-UK:
I'm reticent to continue the thread, however some of what Dan says is patently untrue, you don't HAVE to re login to Play Store for example.

Furthermore, his use of the word "think" throws the veracity of the entire quote in doubt.

So, just like with my OP, Dan's statement should be read with an implied caveat emptor. Take on board the info you have available and decide to "take the risk or not", its up to you as an individual, I don't particularly care either way!
[Nexus 5 General] stevemw:
Thanks for the tip. Force stop is not necessary.
[Nexus 5 General] HughesNet:
So much BS here. Fact is if there is a possibility of a issue. Small or large. And you have alternative methods such as flashing from recovery or sideloading why not just pick them? It isn't as though it is hard to do either especially flashing from recovery. Don't have a customer recovery? Fine, download one and the image of the stock recovery and just use it for a second to install the update. But honestly IMHO no one should be doing any of this stuff without a custom recovery and nandroids in the first place. Do we really need to continue arguing over statistics and semantics? We have ways that are easy and that work without any risk of problem and a way that some people think works and may work in many situations but that has the chance to cause a hassle. Seems simple to me.
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
Or let people do what they want with their phones/property and accept the "risk"
[Nexus 5 General] HughesNet:
That would be great if there weren't people trying to convince everyone of zero risk.
[Nexus 5 General] myorks1127:
Agreed
[Nexus 5 General] laker666:
But there's never been anyone ever that's reported that forcing the update via clearing of framework borked their phone. Soooooooo quit telling everyone the sky is falling because it isn't :)
[Nexus 5 General] unvaluablespace:
I don't see this statement as rude, but while I'm comfortable with side loading, modding, etc, this was not the reason I bought a nexus. I purchased mainly because it is a bare bones android experience, in that I could set up how I want. I was hoping I wouldn't have to mod and tweak too much, but the idea of customizing is a bit easier than going to a phone with preloaded software, where half of the stuff isn't even needed/wanted.
[Nexus 5 General] bozzykid:
Clearing the data has caused my Play Store app to lose all my installed apps and could only be fixed by deleting my whole Google account and adding it back. This happened to me several times on the N4.
[Nexus 5 General] D6E:
Sorry didn't do anything when I tried. Still stuck on 4.4.
[Nexus 5 General] laker666:
Didn't ruin your phone just caused a minor inconvenience... So like I said its never borked anybodys phone
[Nexus 5 General] tom1807:
If everyone is following the OP and has then problems, I would suggest, the OP takes the responsibility and refer to him
[Nexus 5 General] JPhantom95:
You're right, let's keep telling people to force the update. They'll only maybe miss out on important emails or have all their apps deleted, no biggie.

Obviously some people are willing to take risks using this method which may or may not cause side effects. That's completely fine. The point some people in this thread are trying to make is that this method should NOT be recommended, at least not without a disclaimer warning of the possibility for screw ups.
[Nexus 5 General] gwstmar:
If anyone is actually gonna try this I implore you to read through all the permissions that Google services framework gas access to. If you want to suddenly force stop all of that, then I wish you good luck. And let us know how it goes, good and bad.
[Nexus 5 General] Badd_blood:
This screwed up my phone. I feel like it needs a factory restore to be completely normal again.
[Nexus 5 General] muyoso:
What really sucks is that the only people who didn't already know about this method are the same people who wont know how to fix their phone if something messes up, and will either ***** about it in app reviews or on various forums and never associate this action with their problems. They will probably just go on a rant about how 4.4.2 sucks. I have already seen one post on The Verge forums where a guy obviously did this and he stopped getting Gmail push messages to his phone, which of course he thought was the fault of the 4.4.2 update.

I really dont see a need to inform new users about this method when there are far better alternatives and Google has specifically warned against using this method. Its just irresponsible. Especially to have multiple posts without a large warning in them warning users to the potential dangers.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
If you're being serious, I hope all of the people begging for proof read this and will finally shut up. Although they will probably counter with, "it just happened to one person"
[Nexus 5 General] Badd_blood:
I am being serious, it was a pain in the ass to get android device manager to locate my device again. Also after doing this you cannot push play store apps to install on your device from your computer. Ontop of all this its supposed to break all push support for any apps you have installed. I might as well reset to be sure everything is normal.
[Nexus 5 General] PsychDrummer:
I'm sorry that this happened to you. But at least maybe this will show that the people telling the OPs that this can screw up the device are not just being paranoid. Just because their phone is fine doesn't mean they should tell other people to follow this method. This being a good example of why they're wrong.
[Nexus 5 General] laker666:
I will counter with the "its only one phone" comment. This has been going on for years and this is the first time anyone has linked this method to screwing up their phone. I suspect it was something else...regardless, its your phone, do what you think you needed to do to update your phone. On a side note, don't drive at night because a deer could jump in front of your car
[Nexus 5 General] tom1807:
Well, already the second who reported that