yashsingh1/xdaforums huggingface dataset:
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dah54:
Orange Tech Support here, :lol: in our always ongoing effort to satisfy our customers needs we are attempting to reach out to our customers wherever they may be. You might try this modified file.

No Guarantees on it.
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] dalelane:
yay - that's great, thanks!
[JASJAR, XDA Exec, MDA Pro General] cktlcmd:
How do you apply this skin? Will I still be able to view pictures in Pocket Internet Explorer if I use this skin?

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[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
Stock Kit Kat 4.4.2 KOT49H For Nexus 5

-Built from 4.4.2 OTA for Nexus 5 rolled out on 12/09/2013

-Rooted by Chainfire with 1.80.SuperSU

-Busybox

-Odex/Deodex

[Requirements]

-Nexus 5

-Custom Recovery (TWRP/CWR)

Credits

-Chainfire for SuperSU

-bigxie

Screenshots

View attachment 2445116

View attachment 2445117

Instructions

-Factory reset (unless coming from stock 4.4.x, just wipe dalvik and cache)

-Install with TWRP or CWR

-Flash radio found below (optional - compatible with D820 and D821 versions)

-Do not allow recovery to 'Prevent flashing stock recovery', as this will break SuperSU

-For sideload, leave the two options 'wipe dalvik cache' and wipe cache' unchecked, otherwise boot.img will not flash

Downloads

ROM

KOT49H_STOCK_ODEX_120913.zip MD5= 919dceb68e8dca5d652c8fb8f2c20e8d

https://mega.co.nz/#!jZMCnT4R!NKbYmFvicdyzShbLEBHIRgDK4hBnD9z6lYp7RnzVSVw

KOT49H_STOCK_DEODEX_120913.zip MD5= 5769da5c8790c4131040d15df0d6e034

https://mega.co.nz/#!HFVmyJKI!d0ocijgaYAfmbdpoxgNbUgDFfz0xxHuc3pGhJeK2DWo

Radio-M8974A-1.0.25.0.23

LGD820_KOT49ERADIO.zip MD5= 32b70505615d22cf0c9e86507e114f44

-MEGA

https://mega.co.nz/#!HEFHSCRY!LbmLEVPNggu_0avLjgnuk39ey80T0xAQ1FDR7MG9YZw -MEGA
[Nexus 5 Android Development] glebonator:
Can I flash this over a 4.4 deodex stock rom which has had some mods applied (exchange hack, reboot menu, battery %) without doing a factory reset?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] tsubus:
Other than root and BB, this is untouched, correct?

edit: /system/priv-app is still odexed, mind deodexing it?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] 8bitplus:
Thanks for this. Just installed this + Radio + MotoX4.4 dalvik patch now. No problems for far.

Going to leave it all to settle down now.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] mjs2011:
I don't believe the radio changed from 4.4.1 to 4.4.2.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] CRIME INC.:
It didn't. You are correct

sent from my HAMMERHEAD neXus
[Nexus 5 Android Development] tybo31316:
Is anyone voicemail notifications working on 4.4.2? I saw the change log on sprint.com it said it would work but it isn't.

Sent from my Nexus 5 (RF Beast)
[Nexus 5 Android Development] fmorder:
Stuck in boot forever, been about 15 minutes, anyone else have this issue?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] phynal:
Deodexed version won't boot for me. I switched to a different stock/Odex version, booted fine.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
Yes. I believe it will write over the changes you have made though. However, without doing a factory reset you will not lose data.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
That is correct, 100% stock.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
The question was answered by others. But just to confirm, this radio is from 4.4.1 which was KOT49E. There was new radio released.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
Probably a bad download. Did you check the md5?
[Nexus 5 Android Development] phynal:
MD5 was correct.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
Thanks. I will check it out.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] Atlantian:
Flashed > rebooted > startup everything worked except WiFi...
[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
It was due to a bad boot.img

Sorry for the inconvenience.
[Nexus 5 Android Development] IAreKyleW00t:
Are Gapps included in this? Specifically the Deoxed version
[Nexus 5 Android Development] rsa 329:
It is 100% stock. Pulled from the latest ota.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misterasset:
After flashing updates regularly for over two years I do not know what I have done to mess my phone up this bad, but I did. There is no more file structure on the phone whatsoever. Nothing. At all.

Currently I can boot into Bootloader or I can boot into CWM Touch Recovery.

Whenever I go to "Install a Zip" using Recovery, there is no option to choose anything because there is no file structure.

Whenever I go to "Install a Zip from Sideload," and ROM file I send to it returns with a Status 7 error. I read online about removing the PROP comments from the update-script to fix the Status 7 error but that did not work, still got a Status 7 error.

I downloaded the RUU for the correct CID, there were two, and both of them fail with Error 155 Unknown Error.

I'm at my wit's end here and am pretty afraid I have bricked my phone. Would anybody here be willing to try to steer me out of the mess I have created?

Thank you,

Chris Williams
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] BableMan:
You've had an htc one for two years?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misterasset:
No. Started out with my Nexus S, then moved to a Nexus 4, then gave that to my wife and got an HTC One. I love this phone so much I wish I'd had it for two years already, but no.

Do you have any idea of a new path I can try?
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Delgra:
Just to know.. Did you try to flash a RUU.exe or a RUU.zip? I had a lot of problems with the .exe files, while flashing the RUU.zip from command line usually work like a charm to me.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misterasset:
I have tried both actually. I used Hansoon2000's (I'm at work so hopefully I'm referencing that correctly) all in one toolkit to try to flash the RUU.zip file back to the device. It fails while transferring to the device every single time.

So next I tried to use the RUU.exe, both a newer and older version, for my CID and I get the mysterious Error 155 Unknown Error.

How do I flash the RUU.zip from the command line? I have tried using "Install zip from sideload" but I get a Status Error 7 when trying to flash ROM.zip files, and I have tried using ADB PUSH to push the ROM.zip over to the phone but since there's no file structure it doesn't really ever end up anywhere on the phone. (I'm using ROM.zip generically here for my CM ROMs, not RUU) Is there a command line or ADB function to flash the RUU.zip file that I'm not aware of?

Thanks,

Chris
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nkk71:
Error 155 -> you're probably on hboot 1.55+, so you need to downgrade hboot separately first, (to hboot 1.44) then you can run the RUU. download here: http://www.htc1guru.com/dld/1-29-401-12_hboot_1-44-zip/

then in bootloader/FASTBOOT USB:

fastboot oem rebootRUU

fastboot flash zip 1.29.401.12_hboot_1.44.zip

fastboot flash zip 1.29.401.12_hboot_1.44.zip

fastboot reboot-bootloader

-> confirm hboot is 1.44

and run RUU.

PS: you have to be s-off obviously.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misterasset:
Thanks for the info. I'm actually on HBOOT 1.44 already luckily. But I am not S-Off. Is that why the RUU is not working? I tried to use the All-In-One Toolkit to achieve S-Off now, but without a file structure it didn't work.

Any direction on achieving S-Off while it's so messed up?

Thanks,

Chris
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] nkk71:
Please:

1- date of bootloader

2- a "fastboot getvar all" (remove IMEI and s/n)

3- link to the RUU you are trying to use.

Don't forget pressing the little thanks button for people who have helped ;)
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] xcesivemastub8ah:
No offense but it sounds as if you simply aren't running an ruu.zip correctly. I'm not understanding all this hensonn2000 or toolkit talk that you have going on. You flash ruu.zip while the phone is in fastboot oem RUU mode. Not that complicated. Also the error 155 was the bootloader being unlocked if I recall correctly. You have to relock it before flashing or running the appropriate RUU. Specially if youre s-on.
[One (M7) Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] misterasset:
Thanks guys. I ended up getting it all working. I did not have the Bootloader relocked and that was why the RUU kept failing.

Thanks again for the extra direction,

Chris
[LG Optimus 4X HD] hernangb05:
It seems that CyanogenMod has forgotten our phone and we're only getting nightlies, and I've never really tried any other ROM but official CM.

Can you give an answer then?
[LG Optimus 4X HD] SimonTS:
There is no such thing as "Best ROM" and these sort of threads aren't allowed on XDA. Read the dev threads, choose a couple of different ROMs to download, and try them out for yourself.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] kessaras:
what does stable mean ? android is open source operating system developed under linux. even the official stock rom from lg is full of bugs and great latency and droping the fps when we just navigate in the homescreen.

forget the word stable and forget the word best. every rom has good parts and bad parts. thats the way it should be. you cant have everything. for example you cant have a perfomance build and at the same time a big battery life.

thats life. we cant have everything and nothing is perfect. we just choose the most suitable one for us.
[LG Optimus 4X HD] GalaxyVolvoZ:
Lol, I'll call you Konfuzius 2.0 yet
[AT&T Samsung Galaxy Note II] mrkevo3000:
(Q) Is there a mod to get the Galaxy S4 and Note 3 dialer on our Note 2 running 4.3? I'm running sky note 4.3 and looks like Sammy isn't going to give us the colorful white, blue and orange dialer. Are there any mods for this or are we stuck with blue. I have ex dialer that's a replica of the dialer but it sits I'm my memory draining the battery. Thanks!
[HTC One S] knickerblogger:
Hello, I have gone through the process of rooting and flashing ROMs and have decided that it is not my thing.

Now I need to get stock T-mobile US kernel and baseband back on my phone.

I have already flashed the T mobile RUU

Please help me thank you.
[HTC One S] Flashalot:
Wrong forum and if you flashed it already then your good then relock your boot loader
[HTC One S] knickerblogger:
Thanks for the help, I did relock the bootloader but afterwards I realized that I still had the kernel and baseband from the MaximusHD rom. The reason why I switched back is because my data speeds on 2G were 10X on that radio, now if it would be possible to flash the T-mobile radio (I need the file) and possibly ignore the kernel?

What forum should I have posted in?
[HTC One S] Insecret:
Relock bootloader, be sure allso to have supercid (it is better) then go to fastboot mode and use latest ruu... Impossible to does't work if you do so...
[HTC One S] Darknites:
You going to need to S-Off to try other radios.
[HTC One S] knickerblogger:
Done, but went to CM11 instead of stock. Now I am having issues with installing apps, I get the error message "Couldn't install on USB storage or SD card"
[HTC One S] Darknites:
Update to a newer CM11 to fix that.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Hand76:
Mxplayer doesn't work and I was replaying Dead Space and now that won't work on 4.4.1

I can't rely on EA to patch their games but Google should have some sort of solution for this.

Would really like a compatability mode. Just like you can do in windows if you want to run older software on a newer windows os.

Any other work around for this?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] rayiskon:
That's the price you pay for being a nexus owner and an early adopter of newest software versions. That's why they say, a nexus is not for everyone.

Edit: this is nothing compared to what happened in the 2.3 -> 4.0 transition
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] El.Guaje:
Check your OTA please :)
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] kongaz2:
plz. can you upload download link .apk :))
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] El.Guaje:
Here you go: Walkman
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] kongaz2:
link wrong @@

it's the old version ( walkman 7.12.A.0.0 )
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] ImAnurag:
Download Walkman app version 8.0.A.0.4

Walkman app version 8.0.A.0.4 Minor Update for Xperia Z, Z1, ZL, Z Ultra Rolling.

Source - http://www.xperiaguide.com/2013/12/10/walkman-app-version-8-0-0-4-minor-update-xperia-z-z1-zl-z-ultra-rolling/

Download com.sonyericsson.music-2.apk | 14 MB - LINK UPDATED
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] El.Guaje:
Sorry @@
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] cy56:
For Xperia U?

Hey! Can I install this on my Xperia U too without any FC? Also, If you don't know and still I install it and get FC how do I revert back?
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] El.Guaje:
Use this: http://d-h.st/ozD

Dedicate for 4.1.2 from [MENTION=4555495]kongaz2[/MENTION]
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] jontr:
did any one notice any difference compared to the old version? for me it looks and works the same.
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] ermond012:
Uhm yeah it's looks almost the same but the one that's missing is the Friend's Music plus I can't seem to find the Now Playing mark. :confused: Plus the Track ID History, it's not appearing on my Walkman app even though I have the latest Track ID.
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] sucker for sony's:
Turn on music unlimited in Walkman settings and all will appear.
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] ermond012:
The problem is Music Unlimited isn't available here in the Philippines
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] Dhiraj:
Could you upload it somewhere else? Download problem. Please!
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] ImAnurag:
Download here - https://mega.co.nz/#!WQsS2AQZ!acDUNEfCFXKqZkYItdN1WAotrj35olFARabsGfU-nuk
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] FiremakerP:
I can't get it to use viper 4 android anyone else has the problem?
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] sucker for sony's:
Yes me too, but if I use another player then I can use viper.
[Xperia Z1 Themes and Apps] nizarnoor:
Can't seem to install this...? It says "Can't open file"

Edit - Never mind! I got it working! Thanks!
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Yes phone, I know how to exit full screen, you've already told me 50 friggin times today.

Is there any way to permanently disable this message? It's getting REAL annoying.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Bump.

Anyone? It's driving me nuts.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Bueller?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cc16177:
What are you talking about exactly?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] unvaluablespace:
Is this appearing each time you run the same apps? Its supposed to only appear the first time you run a new app in immersive mode. Sounds like a bug or something.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
The little help notification for immersive mode.

It's definitely appearing more than once per app, but not every time. It seems to have a mind of its own. I'm using expanded desktop in gravitybox so my phone thinks it's in immersive mode for every app.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] cheapskate88:
Yup. Having the same problem...
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biyor:
same problem here, on 4.4.2 update, it seems to appear only using widgetlocker
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thesoupthief:
Snap - I have the same problem, also with (the otherwise excellent in every way) Gravity Box xposed framework module.

Am loath to lose all the Pie goodness etc, so am putting up with these incessant "swipe down..." nags for now, but it's a real fly in the ointment
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] thejonesyboy:
Same here, 4.4.2, Xposed, GravityBox, Extended Desktop mode hiding status bar only.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] billapepper:
same problem in widget locker

anyone find a solution?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] blnwp:
I'm getting this message with 'Display Notifications' on lock screen. Like 25 times per day. Drives me crazy every time I see it.

Anyone found a solution yet?

Nexus 5/ 4.4.2

Thanks.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biyor:
Try xposed framework with gravity box

Enviado desde mi Nexus 5 mediante Tapatalk
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] hotleadsingerguy:
That's the issue. Stop doing that.

Or wait until they update it so that it doesn't display the message all the time. It's not an issue with the phone, it's an issue with gravitybox.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] _MetalHead_:
Well, it was because the phone kept thinking it was in immersive mode. But yes, ultimately it was a GravityBox issue. But it is gone now, haven't seen that message since the last time I updated GravityBox.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freddienuxx:
yeah im using widget locker and same thing popping every 20 mins im also using xblast. do you think its xblasyt mod?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] biyor:
Use xposed framework and the module gravity box
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlippin26:
I am also getting constant "how-to" tutorial BS, apparently from widgetlocker. Sorry to noob out, but I am using WL w/ no root, and no xposed/xblast as far as I know (I have no idea what that is, tbh). Anyone else in that camp, or is xposed/blast what most people are dealing with?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] freddienuxx:
when you went into advance settings did you click on home helper?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] jlippin26:
I have home helper on, and the message still shows up. I love this phone, but this is slightly annoying.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] JaylanPHNX:
This has been driving me crazy too. Not only the random tutorial, but the fact that it's always full screen. I want the icons at the bottom for swiping up to Google Now. I'm using SlimKat with no Xposed anything. Expanded desktop mode in the ROM is off, but WidgetLocker sure thinks it's on.

Sent from my Nexus 5
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dvlhmslf:
hello guys,

Is there any way to make the ringtone sounds longer??

as you know ringtone only last 30 seconds or something

if there is any please let me know

thanks
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] davinci20:
As much as i know the ringtone doesnt turn off unless your caller hangs up
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Dvlhmslf:
oh thanks, you're right, it is the operator who hangs up the call if there is no answer within their time limit
[Xperia SP Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] tifil:
And, for the messages ? It's only 3 secondes.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Extreme112:
I'm not sure what the Device only function does in the location settings. Can someone explain? How is this different from using Data/WiFi to determine your location?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alistairs1:
"Device only" per the description in Settings->Location->Mode only uses your device GPS receiver to determine your location from the signal from GPS satellites. It does not use nearby cell towers (Data) or nearby wifi networks (Wifi).

Having a choice lets you turn off various radios if you want. People used to do that a lot to try and save battery. Nowadays I just leave everything turned on - batteries are better, processors and radios are more efficient, and I'd rather have all the smartphone features working.
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Extreme112:
So in theory I should be able to use Google maps without Data/WiFi?
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] alistairs1:
Yes, and I believe this worked fine on older versions of Maps provided you cached the map first (obviously you can't get the map without data access otherwise).

With the current version of Maps there's some debate whether offline navigation still works. To give it a try: to save the map, have the area you want showing, then press search and then scroll to the bottom card "Make this map available offline".
[Nexus 5 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting] Extreme112:
I think I get the function of this mode now. I'm gonna go ahead and try Maps and other navigation apps as well.

Thanks for explaining this stuff to me. You've been great help :)
[PDA2, XDA IIi, 2020i General] kquahkt1978:
Hi all,

Need some advise if u break thee sim lock in ur xda 2i, does it void the warranty? Me from Singapore
[Sony Xperia L] mahithlal:
the new walkman update is out for xperia l

WALKMAN Version: 8.0.A.0.4

Features:

Enjoy a 30-second free preview out of millions of songs from the Music Unlimited streaming service

New playlists for "Newly added" songs, "Most played" songs and TrackID™ history (dependent on TrackID™ app version)

Possibility to save playlists shared by your friends

"Now playing" indicator for songs, albums and playlists

Performance enhancements and bug fixes
[Sony Xperia L] El.Guaje:
Download: https://app.box.com/s/ner8nwfck00yhlu9oe46
[Sony Xperia L] Bhupi7411:
OTA

It's an OTA so i think everybody will know about this already. :confused:
[Sony Xperia L] talhah sabri:
can it work on 4.1.2?
[Sony Xperia L] El.Guaje:
Some regions havent had yet :)

Use this: http://d-h.st/ozD

Dedicate for 4.1.2 from [MENTION=4555495]kongaz2[/MENTION]
[Sony Xperia L] Macmol:
I can't install the App in 4.1.2. It says: "App not installed"...

any hints?
[Sony Xperia L] Moesappel:
A hint, update to 4.2.2..
[Sony Xperia L] Macmol:
Great answer, really...
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] sholee:
Im seriously thinking about returning the tablet. I've done alot of the fixes and tweaks other people have posted here to fix the lag. Everytime i try to view fantasy basketball on yahoo, it lags tremendously. The only fix ive found for this is turning off javascript but it's annoying to have to turn it on and off while browsing different websites. I've also used different browsers such as dolphin and chrome and it still lags. I do like the multitasking capabilities of the tablet but the lag while browsing websties is a major deal breaker for me. Are there any other people who play fantasy basketball and have a fix?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Elim:
Okay, now I at least see the lag. I never saw it but this web page is like browsing with brakes. And I compare it with other devices and it's only on the Note that it has such a lag.

So, I will analyze this web page to see what produce this lag.

PS. There exists also an app, maybe this is an solution?!

PPS. When I switch to the desktop view my lag is gone. I got the lag only in the mobile view (stock browser).
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] aznmode:
Can u check "Force GPU Rendering" in developer setting and tell me if that makes a difference?
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] locovaca:
Yahoo's new layout is notoriously awful for mobile devices. It takes almost 45 seconds to fully load a page on my old A500 in both Chrome and the AOSP browser. Yahoo did a terrible job. I would not read much into the device's capabilities based on that site only.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] sholee:
yeah I know it's most likely on yahoos end but it is one of the main reasons why I bought a tablet so that I didn't have to Web browse on a phone. But it's unfortunate bc fantasy basketball is one of my top sites I view daily to check up on my roster, etc.

I checked it and it didn't make a difference.

Is there anyway to keep viewing sites in desktop view? It doesn't lag in desktop view like someone mentioned earlier but Every time I load a new tab or site, desktop view automatically turns off.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] Srikar_NBK:
I don't use the default browser, but I use Opera/ Boat Browser HD and Next Browsers, and for all of them you can trip the User Agent setting to Desktop in their settings. I think Next Browser supports Flash too. Hope this solves your issue.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] sholee:
Dolphin has been crashing constantly in desktop view for some reason... i have no idea. I will try Next browser since it supports flash and see how it goes. This situation is so aggravating.. for a 500+ tablet, I expected better..
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] chanhny:
Opera smooth and fast. Tablet no problem. Because of app still not use all for GPU render.
[Galaxy Note 10.1 (2014 Edition) General] sholee:
Okay, i've used MOST of the browsers and it's still not working. I've tried Dolphin, Opera, UC, Mozilla, Chrome, and Next. None of them work, while some have a desktop mode feature, for some reason, it does not load my fantasy basketball roster on the site, it scrolls but it only shows the background wallpaper, no images or text.

Can someone with a rooted device tell me if the fantasy basketball site lags or not for them?