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[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] skagen:
If its size of camera, I can get a 2MP Mustek that is about the size of a credit card an weighs about a 5th of what the Phrophet does. Big deal.

We are assessing a

smartphone

.Camera is not an key issue - unless it is a real camera. And real cameras have both a 3x zoom and at least 5 megapixel. So don't bring it up, unless the included camera is going to stop me from buying a real camera.

This is about as useful as trying to assess digital cameras by comparing their video recording - who cares.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Bman:
Hey skagen why so angry? Is your partner giving you a (not so) hard time? Do you have Quanta stock? Chill, it's only about a tiny PDA. It's not world peace or a cartoon debate.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] skagen:
Not angry at all. I just find it utterly insane to be measuring a device on peripheral qulaities - rather than the main thing.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] kta:
You seem to be doing this on purpose? :)

The main thing is FINE and is also BETTER THAN THE MAGICIAN!!!! With or without the 2MP camera the device is still better than the Magician thanks to a MUCH BETTER battery life, better call handling, ease-of-use (as in one handed operation, etc.), BETTER OS, permanent storage, headset quality ... and a better camera! :) :)
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Bman:
The main thing is that the Prophet is the successor of the Magician and is doing a good job. I would like the Prophet to have GPS but hey you can not have them all. A camera that is usable is a big advantage. The solid memory (wm 2005) is a big advantage. Usable bluetooth headset is a BIG advantage for me.

BTW what is the main thing on a device that has multiple functions?

PDA, GSM, CAMERA?

For me it is the combined functions. Great to have a PDA GSM CAMERA in one device.

I'm still waiting for the Prophet to be released here in the Netherlands.

If it's here before a PDA GSM CAMERA GPS is sold some where else I will buy it for sure.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Melchior:
Your entire camera argument goes against the current market trend where people spend $500-$1000 on Camera PHONES.

SE K750i, W800i, W900i, P990

Sharp 903SH

Samsung D600

Need I list more of the best selling and most popular phones that FAR outsell our niche market of PDA phones that are often sold ONLY BECAUSE of their "crappy" Cameras? Sorry buddy. Take a look at the pictures the Sharp 903SH takes and that should shut you up permanently about camera phones. I'm not saying the Prophet's camera is as good, but it comes very close.

If I wanted to buy a separate camera, then I would. Then instead I would buy an Ipod, a Dell Axim, a Moto Razr, and Fuji F10. Guess what, what we want is an ALL IN ONE DEVICE. Not 5 things sticking out of our pocket! One thing in my pocket that accomplishes EVERYTHING above really really well is what this market is about. If you don't care about the camera and the phone function? is top priority, I suggest you look elsewhere (Motorola Razr V3i/x etc).
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] skagen:
Well the market for crap CMOS 2 megapixel cameras with no zoom lens - whic is what these two phone have - is about zero so no, that is not why people spend £500 on a device. Sorry.

I'm very interested in valid arguments about why a smartphone is good or not, not about tangential functions that the designers have clearly deemed unworthy of

real

investment. The "camera" in these two devices - if you want to call this pinhole POS a camera - probably differs in software only.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] kta:
skagen, why do you hate the prophet so much? It just happens to be a good revision of the Magician with a revised 2MP camera. What's the big deal? If the Magician's camera wasn't crappy enough to stop you from buying it, the Prophet isn't either!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] MADJID:
prophet v atom

It seems that a lot of us forgot what is all about is not about the prophet and the magician is about atom & the prophet, and yes if the prophet had the 400 processor it will be better then the atom but is not, and fast means better whether you are using a big application or small one ,we all like the magician, so the atom is the new magician updated with the wifi wm5 and more like the fm radio that even the prophet doesn’t have! The issue of the camera will be sorted in future ROMs as it’s a software issue not a hardware and I agree with skagen at the end of the day they are pda phones not a digital camera . Personally I believe the speeds are more important & life its short so get the most out of it in seconds!!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Melchior:
Re: prophet v atom

Since you made up your mind aloong way back, this thread should just be locked. If you prefer one device over another, then thats just that. You know the facts, the specs, the looks. So you will get what you like.

I've pretty said my share, in the end its all about the money. If you believe your money is better spent with an Atom, then so be it. If it makes you happy that you are getting a faster device out of the box at the sacrifice of battery life, storage, and a camera. Its a trade off, as simple as that. If YOU feel that trade off is worth it, then go for it. I as well as many others feel that trade off is not only not worth it, but also a non issue when you can just overclock the thing. I'm pretty anal about my things and prefer perfection in my devices and my work. The Prophet is much closer to perfect than the Atom, that's all there is to it.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] MADJID:
Re: prophet v atom

Hold you bike mate, it’s about opinion not a fight at the end of the day, I have post this in order to find out the difference with the 2 devices so people ho owns them just tell us their experience, but you seem to take it a bit personal ,if you happy with your toy then good for you !! Again it’s to know what people experience with this devices & what they think. Not that I have this toy so is the best because its cheap or expensive or because I own one!!

overclock a machine is when you cant afford to get a better one and make the battery issue back again in stage regardless of what the future life of your chip will hold!

So let’s keep it level.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] fastest:
cat fight :D /me sits back and enjoys

heres some benchmarks using spb benchmark soft. when the jamin is clocked to 262mhz, it does come close to some of the original jam scores.

spb benchmarks	jam	jamin@	jamin-default

compress 1mb file using	4827ms	4395ms	6166ms

decompress 1024x768jpg	458ms	774ms	1140ms

arkaball frames per second	9ms	5ms	7ms

cpu mflops	4669ms	7923ms	11714ms

cpu mops	1095ms	1665ms	2459ms

cpu mwips	9575ms	15406ms	22744ms

copy 1mb using memcpy	13ms	11ms	16ms

@ = clocked at 262mhz
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] TerryMathews:
You're missing something - most overseas cell companies (England, Japan, Korea, etc.) don't charge for incoming calls, only outgoing. Caller pays for the call, and the rate is higher for calling cells.

The way the American phone system works is very unique. You've got to realize that this is an international, and for the most part not US-centric, message board. We USers are in a minority here.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] haider:
You know how the Jamin is called 'Prophet' whats the Atom called? is it not made by HTC? is that why its not on this forum?

Not wanting to ruin the thread, but which is better:

Prophet or wizard? can't see the real difference other than keyboard, and i can't decide which to get :shock:

Thanks for any advice
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] 27:
The Atom is made by Quanta and not HTC.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] MADJID:
the atom made by Quanta not HTC

I THINK The reason they didnt open a tread in here is because there is no much owner of this device yet ,and is not officially in the UK.

Between the wizard and the prophet like you wrote the keyboard for the wizard and I think the camera and sd card for the prophet.thats all what I see as a diffrence!!.

I have a wizard I hardley use the keyboard!! the prophet a bit £ :evil: comparing to the wizard if you get it sim free.
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] jonboy8841:
Prophet Camera Quality

Can someone please post some photos from the prophet in low light conditions ie night.

These images all seem fine in daylight but I notice that when you use these devives the night images are crap even in 'night mode'
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] recrem:
I've currently got an Atom, and I had the JAMin for a week or so, so could compare every task I did on the JAMin with the Atom. In EVERY test I did, the JAMin performed as good, but mostly better than the Atom with the latest ROM installed.

Tests included opening large pdf documents, movies, skype, GPS software (OziExplorer), photo editing, games, music, phone etc... The JAMin opened and closed every application faster than the Atom by nearly 30 - 50%. I was so skeptical of the OMAP processor running at 200MHz as all my previous pocket pc's had an XScale processor running at least 400MHz.

In short, the performance blew my mind for it's clock speed. It is faster than the Atom, Exec and JASJAR in terms of practical use, and yes, I had all devices side by side at one stage.

I really don't know why so many people say it is slow... I've converted and am going to get a JAMin shortly and release ownership of my Atom.

Don't get me wrong, the Atom is still a very nice device, with cool FM radio, O2 software and such. Prior to me playing with the JAMin (courtesy of I-Mate in Australia) the Atom was the pick of the bunch for me.

Just my thoughts and obversations!
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] Tom_Smith:
I have been an O2 fan for a while now and I usually trust their products to be what they claimed them to be, to me the Imate brand seems to be the knock off model, like when Ford made utes with Nissan badging on them who did they think they were fooling?

I'm pleased to say that O2 has delivered the goods once again with the Atom. I’m extremely happy with my Atom and the fact it has a 416mzh Intel processor, it handles anything you throw at it and with ease.

I could be wrong and it may be just my perception but I just don’t trust the OMAP 850 processor in the Jamin and I think the Atom is the better choice for now...but in the next few months who knows?

Believe me speed will become an issue, when you have a few applictaions open and a call comes in or you need to open another application you will find the Jamin lacking.

I don't see any issues with the Atom's camera these pics were taken with my Atom the car was obviously shot outside :lol:

the other other pic was taken at night inside with no flash, as far as im concerned the Atom's pic quality is acceptable for a fully featured PDA with the works,

The Atom is the pick of the crop for the time being at least
[JAMin, XDA Neo, S200 General] firstime911:
I used to have ATOM for a week when it first launch. However, i sold it and brought Prophet. Well I think Prophet was much faster.

With the new Atom Rom upgrade, i don't know what changes, but a lot of people said that is become faster.

Personally, I like the look of Atom, small and compact.

If the speed are the same or Atom faster after an upgrade,

I wonder what about the Loudness of the Speaker and Quality of the Camera of Atom that has been upgraded, It is better than Prophet???
[RAZR i General] bongofred:
Can anyone please tell me why the Google Chrome browser is such a bloated and not fluid experience on the Razr i? Sorry for this not so useful thread, but I just want to get this off my chest... I am now back to the stock Android browser, because this one at least is able to start up in under 10 seconds, I think it is around 2 or 3 seconds for me. With Chrome I have the feeling that I need a 3 gig quadruple core xXx Tripple multipass processor... to get this piece of software started in under 5 seconds... seriously w t f

anyone expriences the same issues?
[RAZR i General] skupi20:
Try chrome beta version

Wysyłane z mojego XT890 za pomocą Tapatalk 2
[RAZR i General] pirast:
I have the same experience. Both the stock browser and chrome take approx. the same time to "start up" (aka show some parts of the interface), but with chrome it takes some seconds until it actually starts loading a website (before, it takes some time until it shows the number of tabs, maybe it is related?)
[RAZR i General] bongofred:
what is the difference?
[RAZR i General] bongofred:
I was talking about the loading of the site with "startup", sorry if that was not clear. The stock browser takes 3 secs for me, chrome takes at least 10 till I see the contents of a page
[RAZR i General] rodrigoauditore:
The same happens to me. I stay with stock browser and If i get bored I switch to dolphin
[RAZR i General] yostyle:
I use as main browser "boat browser". give it a try!
[RAZR i General] sxxorp:
Puffin

Try Puffin - handles Flash well, and many times lighning fast:

http://www.phonearena.com/news/Browser-Wars-the-best-10-Android-browsers-go-toe-to-toe-part-1_id48166

:D
[RAZR i General] chandon123:
I used to have the same problem on stock rom with Chrome lastest version. Best thing for me at that moment was to use the old Chrome version included on my JB update. Also disabling Chrome history and desktop syncro really helped. Those two simply steps get Chrome considerable faster; the price was less security less funcionality.

Still, i agree the app totally sucks. Now i'm using Omar's ROM and last Chrome stable and waiting those 4-5 seconds. Could be worse, like in stock rom.
[RAZR i General] kamutka:
My Razr i really sucks there. Browsing on Chrome is a nightmare. Also stock browser is laggy. I regret swapping my Nexus 4 with Razr i for my daughter. I don't want to mess up with roms and old version of Chrome. I miss simplicity and reliability of Nexus. Razr is my last phone from Motorola.
[RAZR i General] Rotkaeqpchen:
People should be aware that there is a reason why Boat Browser, Dolphin and all the other "best replacements" are free. Even Chrome is not recommendable. I am using the stock browser and I'm not missing anything. On my Nexus 7 I use this app to install the AOSP Browser: https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.mkrtchyan.aospinstaller
[RAZR i General] purplet:
I agree, the stock browser works alright.

Chrome beta works okay too but somehow they really broke chrome non beta...it suxx but the only difference to the nexus 4 is that it keeps chrome in the nice 2gb ram so it doesnt have to laggy launch again.

Its kinda laggy at first non ram start on the nexus4 too so i guess google just messed up their "stable" version of chrome again.
[RAZR i General] adddaamo:
Thanks man for that! Chrome beta really is much much faster than non beta. Great news for me, at least I could switch to chrome. Cool:D
[RAZR i General] bongofred:
Thanks guys for all the replies, I will stick to Stock Browser, not missing anything at the moment.
[RAZR i General] chandon123:
Didnt know about the beta will try it. Thanks.!

Enviado desde mi XT890 mediante Tapatalk
[RAZR i General] purplet:
Chrome has my bookmarks, and its AS fast AS stock Browser unless Google messed a Version up like the current build. Beta is fine now, months ago its been beta that was slow
[RAZR i General] sxxorp:
Newest Chrome Beta

http://www.xda-developers.com/android/newest-chrome-beta-eliminates-artificial-300-msec-click-delay/ :)
[RAZR i General] yopichoi:
Same here

Same situation here, Chrome takes too much to load, I use the "stock browser" all the time because It takes forever to load for Chrome!

Regards.
[RAZR i General] clickstop:
Dolphin browser with dolphin jetpack installed is the fastest browser I have tried. Chrome beta was great too, but it force closed too often
[RAZR i General] sengstaken:
Chrome is sluggish for me too. Will try the stock browser instead
[LG Optimus G Pro] dinhcara:
Hi,

I have been getting only 20 hrs of battery and only 3 hours of screen on time. I have not used any processor intensive apps. Please check the images attached. Is this normal? I have bought it a week ago and I can get a replacement if the battery is defective. What do you think? Don't plan or rooting it.

P.S: I have chosen ogp over n5 because of the extra battery, but ogp's battery is equally bad.
[LG Optimus G Pro] leris2:
Normal usage.

After playing 1hour of injustice i get around 3.30 of screen on time.

WiFi always on.
[LG Optimus G Pro] lakshyamodi65:
When u got solution tell.me.too haveing same issues
[LG Optimus G Pro] Proz00:
u use the original charger ?
[LG Optimus G Pro] leris2:
Original charger here.
[LG Optimus G Pro] BoundsChecking:
You need to understand that they provided the extra 'oomph' in the battery department, because this is a HUGE screen.

Another thing, is that LG's stock interface is filled with a lot of white menus, and submenus, etc.. That will also impact battery life more than you know.

Another factor to bring in to consideration is the cell coverage. Your phone has to work harder to acquire signal, in hard to reach places by your carrier.

All of these and more (wakelocks, no deep sleep, etc..) Have a big impact on your device's battery life.
[LG Optimus G Pro] Proz00:
i get this 4 hours screen time too

after charging it to 100% battery the CurrentWidget show still charging so i guess

leaving overcharging will make it last longer
[Galaxy S II General] asia559571:
THANKS!

Very, Very Nice!:good: I would of hit the Thanks if there was one So "Thank You" for sharing. Yes the music has never sounded better, far more detailed too. I generally have Viper set as my default sound engine what about the DSP do I need to run it every time from the app drawer? also do you have any special config settings for video playback. Thanks Again and Kind Regards to You.
[Galaxy S II General] EttyN:
Thanks :) You won't have to start DSP Manager from the app draw each time, it works normally side-by-side with ViPER's audio. I don't have any configurations for video playback, have just left them as they are.
[Galaxy S II General] kool4u:
Lovely ! Sounds better now. Thanks :good:
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JNiels1980:
Hi,

I have on my tf201 latest official firmware, 4.1.1 build-number: JRO03C.WW_epad-10.4.2.18-20121122.

As Asus doesn't provide any more updates for our device and mine is out of warranty I'm finally ready to move on to some custom roms.

My tablet is Rooted.

Now after a lot of reading I thought it would be wise to do a backup of everything and make my device unbrickable.

I started to follow the instructions on this site : matthill.eu/android/transformer-prime-tf201-jellybean-nvflash

At first I backed everything up with Titanium Backup and then I did a factory reinstall, so I would have a clean tablet to start.

Then I installed the unlocking tool and succesfully unlocked my device.

I restarted my tf201 with holding the volume button down to get the options to enter fastboot.

When I got to the selection menu, I press the volume button a few times to select the USB-icon.

Then I press the volume up button to enter fastboot, but nothing happens. It just freeze.

The only thing I can do is hold the power button until my tablet restarts.

Also, since i'm on JB I never could connect it on my pc anymore. It even doesn't show up as an unknown device.

So when I want to use ADB I have to use ADB Konnect (wireless ADB).
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] flumpster:
When you press up on the USB icon and it freezes that it normal.. This is fastboot mode.

You now must access it over a PC after installing the naked drivers.. If it is not showing on your PC then either try a different PC or your cable is faulty.
[Asus  Eee Pad Transformer Prime] JNiels1980:
Thanks for the quick reply.

I tried once more to enter fastboot. Same result.

But when I disconnected my usb cable to connect it to an other computer, suddenly I got this message on my tablet:

"Starting Fastboot USB download protocol"

This message didn't show up before.

I plugged the tablet back to my pc, but still no device detection in device manager, even when refreshing (So I can't install naked drivers, as it is not recognized).

My computer is a Windows 8.1 system.

I restarted my tablet again, (after disconnecting it from my pc) and followed the procedure to enter Fastboot again.

I waited for the message "Starting Fastboot ..." and then I connected the cable to my other pc (Windows 7 system)

Same result as on the Windows 8.1 machine, not recognized :(

You say it could be that my cable is broken. Maybe, but it's a strange coincidence that this happened when switching from ICS to JB.

I know JB for the tf201 is been out a long time, and I updated since I could. So over time, maybe my cable could be broken now. But I'm sure I had this problem (not recognizing) since then, because right after updating I wanted to do some things with ADB and so I found out I had this problem.
[HTC Wildfire S] akshay.ku:
hello guys.

i am planning to purchase a new battery for my htc wfs.

which can be easily shipped to INDIA-Banglore.

i want a gold battery because the original one is of 1230mah and gold batteries are of 2200mah or higher and

also they have good battery back-up.

so please can some one help me out in finding a good battery.

i have seen few batteries on ebay-INDIA.

but i don't know that they are really worth.

i mean are they real and do they give good battery back-up.

the link for e-bay gold battery for htc-wfs is http://www.ebay.in/sch/i.html?_odkw...ld+battery&_nkw=htc+wfs+gold+battery&_sacat=0.

please guys do help me in selecting the good battery for reasonable price.

thanks in advance.
[General Questions and Answers] kapish:
The phone is micromax a74 which is based upon mtk6572 chip.....there are two custom roms for this phone's clone(zte v818)...the custom roms are lewa os and lewa os 5.....there is also a stock rom present for this phone on internet......pls help us to get custom room for this phone
[Moto X Q&A] Marlon41:
I'm not using the official dock for moto x but use CarHome to place phone in car mode. Whenever I use phone dialer while in car mode it only appears in portrait and does not show in landscape like previous phones. Same happens when moto assist is activated while driving. Any ideas?

Thanks.
[Themer General Discussion] alexgtshp:
I conducted a brief search with no results, so here goes, whenever I open an app, whether it be weatherbug or gplus, or any app. When I return to the home screen I get the loading wheel. Sometimes it takes up to thirty seconds to load. Any help is greatly appreciated.
[Themer General Discussion] ThemerSupport:
Hi there, we are aware of this issue and the developers are working hard to resolve it.
[Themer General Discussion] xbrianx619:
laing eareudi

My phone use to be stuck loading after I'd press the home key to go back as well. That was a gNex though, not sure about other phones
[Themer General Discussion] vitalero:
Yep, exactly same issue on the Gnex
[Themer General Discussion] ibmonkey:
I hope this can be resolved. I think the issue occurs when you've had another app open for a while and return to the home screen (themer). I don't recall encountering this issue with other launchers, so fingers crossed it is an easy fix.

It is getting pretty frustrating, and I'm going to go back to use another launcher for the moment, but eager to use Themer so will be keeping an eye on this.

Keep up the good work!
[Themer General Discussion] dj_mol3y_x8:
The [MENTION=5479158]ThemerSupport[/MENTION] team are working very hard to try and fix all the bugs and crashes.

But this takes time and above all feedback as the themer support team can't fix any bug that's not reported to http://support.themerapp.com or just a post here at xda giving as much info as possible.

And as well as themer support there is a couple of users here who are trying there best to help and support themer.

All the best

Moley

Sent from my RAZR I screen to your screen using a strange thing known as the world wide web
[Themer General Discussion] stothy862:
Same issue here. Sorry to inform you!
[Themer General Discussion] ThemerSupport:
Have you tried the Zooper Widget or 854x480 builds?